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Hong Kong ladies seem to lose their attractiveness faster than most other places.
My favorita was the bomb a few years ago. After a couple of years, she turned into a MILF. And then she developed a barriga, no more bikinis.
And she can eat. Every meal takes forever because she eats multiple courses.
I don't know how she is going to have a future in the bar.Some I known for years have gained weight, those like Tanya remained as slim and as attractive as ever. One thing they can't do is gain weight but some do and it always doesn't look good on them when they do.
SamaRiding
01-22-25, 07:27
Update, My friend with no passport was able go get back with his California DL with little issues. They did question why he doesn't have his passport but told him they would have detained much longer if he was or looked Hispanic. They asked him if the address on his DL was current, what were the cross streets of his home, directions to his home from LAX, what high school he attended and the mascot of the school. Finally the system works in favor of a black man! Guess I'm not that much of an idiot!They probably don't just depend on the drivers license and questions. Every time you go through customs and now go through TSA to get on a plane, you undergo facial recognition and this data is stored. Probably a safe bet that when you go up to the border counter, they already know who you are, if you are citizen, and if they should let you through.
ABAJoeSmith123
01-22-25, 07:41
Hong Kong ladies seem to lose their attractiveness faster than most other places.
My favorita was the bomb a few years ago. After a couple of years, she turned into a MILF. And then she developed a barriga, no more bikinis.
And she can eat. Every meal takes forever because she eats multiple courses.
I don't know how she is going to have a future in the bar.Are you surprised that they get ugly and fade fast? All they do is drink tons of alcohol everyday and have their bodies violated and abused by nasty mambas and perverted arabs / indians in every hole all night long 6 days a week. Any normal woman would eventually look like shit after that type of abuse.
It's a sad life.
ABAJoeSmith123
01-22-25, 07:43
Update, I'm coming down there next week. The friends I mentioned live in LA and decided to go this weekend, I wasn't coming, too much football this weekend, didn't want to watch at HK or a tiny hotel TV. They went down Friday afternoon, came back Sat afternoon. My friend with no passport was able go get back with his California DL with little issues. They did question why he doesn't have his passport but told him they would have detained much longer if he was or looked Hispanic. They asked him if the address on his DL was current, what were the cross streets of his home, directions to his home from LAX, what high school he attended and the mascot of the school. Finally the system works in favor of a black man! Guess I'm not that much of an idiot!No you're still an idiot and the system always works to favor the black man. It's why america's going to shit.
Are you surprised that they get ugly and fade fast? All they do is drink tons of alcohol everyday and have their bodies violated and abused by nasty mambas and perverted arabs / indians in every hole all night long 6 days a week. Any normal woman would eventually look like shit after that type of abuse..Na. That's not it at all. I know girls who fuck more hours a week than hk girls. These are girls fucking their man because I dated one. The amount of sex will only make a girl look better as she burns calories. The beers are fake they are 80% water. It's like 2% alcohol and they are a 3rd the size of a normal beer. They probably drink 400 calories a night of these beers and wine. It shouldn't be enough to fatten them up. The Mexican woman get fat because they like food. There's mostly 2 type of woman over 30. The heavy ones who like food and the thin ones who look at food and know how much calories it is by just glancing at it and won't eat unless starving so they can stay thin. Sure there's the rare exceptions that stay thin no matter what they eat. But Mexican woman don't view obese as ugly the way San Diego woman do. Or Miami beach woman do. Or Manhattan nyc woman do. They don't go to yoga and then spin class and be surrounded by other thin people. I jave had 3 Mexican woman friends over the last 8 years who were so fat that they looked funny. Like one was going to her belly only so she was 50 and looked pregnant. Like all dayblong I would never see another woman who looked like that. She had a prestigious job going into office everyday well dressed with this belly. But she liked her belly she would mention it sometimes how she loves her body. Another one just got fatter and fatter and I tried to tell her it was going to harm her interior health. But she doesn't seem to mind. Another one got so fat I didn't want to bang her anymore. Then she lost a ton of weight and of course got a man right away. A guy friend in the states 50, went to his house, he couldn't answer the door. Finally her opens it he's on a walker moved his bed to the living room with a portable toilet couldn't walk to other rooms in the house he had become like 450 pounds. It was so sad I used to play sports with him as a teenager. He even has a hot girlfriend. But he didt view the weight gain as a major concern I guess. Some people just view obesity the way I would view wrinkles, as in unimportant.
No you're still an idiot and the system always works to favor the black man. It's why America's going to shit.You sound like angry to me. Arabs, Indians, now Blacks. How about Chinos? They are the ones who fuck the HK girls the most. LOL, its their fault.
Seriously though, the sex itself doesn't hurt the women. What hurts them is facing frugal, rude, nasty smelling and drunk Johns. Exactly in that order from highest to lowest in terms of offense.
You sound like angry to me. Arabs, Indians, now Blacks. How about Chinos? They are the ones who fuck the HK girls the most. LOL, its their fault.
Seriously though, the sex itself doesn't hurt the women. What hurts them is facing frugal, rude, nasty smelling and drunk Johns. Exactly in that order from highest to lowest in terms of offense.He's just a racist POS.
My friend with no passport was able go get back with his California DL with little issues. They did question why he doesn't have his passport but told him they would have detained much longer if he was or looked Hispanic. They asked him if the address on his DL was current, what were the cross streets of his home, directions to his home from LAX, what high school he attended and the mascot of the school. Finally the system works in favor of a black man! Guess I'm not that much of an idiot!Hey Dac007, did he have any issues entering Mexico?
ABAJoeSmith123
01-26-25, 07:18
You sound like angry to me. Arabs, Indians, now Blacks. How about Chinos? They are the ones who fuck the HK girls the most. LOL, its their fault.
Seriously though, the sex itself doesn't hurt the women. What hurts them is facing frugal, rude, nasty smelling and drunk Johns. Exactly in that order from highest to lowest in terms of offense.Let's state the obvious here. The place is called "Hong Kong" which is a city in ASIA. So of course there will be Asians there. They bring more money there for the establishment than the low life redneck drunkards, perverted indians, and poor ass local mexican hoodlums that frequent the place.
The place has an Asian name and was set up with the idea to attract wealthy Asians. If you insult the chinos, you insult the HK establishment. I don't work for the club and I'm just another white guy so I have no skin in the game, but I'm just saying that the place you love so much (HK) caters to the very group of people (chinos) you're insulting.
Let's state the obvious here. The place is called "Hong Kong" which is a city in ASIA. So of course there will be Asians there. They bring more money there for the establishment than the low life redneck drunkards, perverted indians, and poor ass local mexican hoodlums that frequent the place.
The place has an Asian name and was set up with the idea to attract wealthy Asians. If you insult the chinos, you insult the HK establishment. I don't work for the club and I'm just another white guy so I have no skin in the game, but I'm just saying that the place you love so much (HK) caters to the very group of people (chinos) you're insulting.
Saying the Hong Kong Bar caters to asians is like saying the Chicago Club caters to people from Chicago. It's just a theme, dude. In fact, it used to be a little hole in the wall place before they remodeled way back in 2008.
MongerHunger
01-26-25, 20:14
Went to Hong Kong Club last night right before they started charging a cover at 7 pm. The shaving cream show (my fav) was in full swing on the stage closest to the alley entrance. 2 hot young chicas performing at good show slipping and sliding, eating and licking. One chica's panocha was so tight that I could barely make an entrance with the finger. They really like putting that sweet Luchera on each other. The meseros weren't that pushy but don't ask them for change. Either get it from the bar or a chica. Now it's raining and the streets are sparse.
Saying the Hong Kong Bar caters to asians is like saying the Chicago Club caters to people from Chicago. It's just a theme, dude. In fact, it used to be a little hole in the wall place before they remodeled way back in 2008.Does anyone have the background on how / why HK club got its name?
Hong Kong is not known as a major sex destination (not like Pattaya or Amsterdam) . So I am curious why the name Hong Kong was used for HK club in Tijuana.
Seen her before. She is cool. Treat her well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtyCEItxP4&t=872s
Says it all here. At some point in the vid says, Chinos are so generous they would pay her $300/30 min. Shishhhh!!!!!! We are being priced out.
Let's state the obvious here. The place is called "Hong Kong" which is a city in ASIA. So of course there will be Asians there. They bring more money there for the establishment than the low life redneck drunkards, perverted indians, and poor ass local mexican hoodlums that frequent the place.
The place has an Asian name and was set up with the idea to attract wealthy Asians. If you insult the chinos, you insult the HK establishment. I don't work for the club and I'm just another white guy so I have no skin in the game, but I'm just saying that the place you love so much (HK) caters to the very group of people (chinos) you're insulting.You ain't White, you Asian boy. I can tell. In any case I did not disrespect Asians, far from it. It was not even in my thought. I was making a joke and making a statement. Why are you so Angry my boy, Chill out. Eat some tacos or some puzzy.
Explorer8939
01-27-25, 01:47
Saying the Hong Kong Bar caters to asians is like saying the Chicago Club caters to people from Chicago. It's just a theme, dude. In fact, it used to be a little hole in the wall place before they remodeled way back in 2008.In reality, HK has long catered to Asian factory managers assigned to Tijuana.
Of course, Asians from SoCal are frequent customers. I've seen lots of Vietnamese there.
This, right here. Thanks mongerhunger for calling the fools out that somehow think the bar name is about the clientele or owners. To be specific the bar was called Hong Kong way back in the day when it was a little tiny place. Had nothing to do with Asian owners LMAO! It was called Hong Kong because it was modeled after the first adult bar in Hong Kong. Back in the days when it was just a tiny place it used to have Asian paper lamps, waiters dressed in Asian outfits, Asian themed decor, etc. Adelitas was based upon the Adelitas women (if you don't know what that is read up about the Mexican revolution) and back in the day was themed around that. La Chavelas for cowboys, etc. Maybe I'm mis remembering but didn't the Chavelas meseros wear cowboy type outfits or was that too long ago? The clubs all have names that are themed around something because back in the days when Tijuana was tiny it made them stand out. The fool who came in here that wants to start throwing slurs out there is really doing it just to gain attention for whatever reasons his life requires that so I would advise to ignore and leave the man behind. Let's get back to actual info about the scene there.
Saying the Hong Kong Bar caters to asians is like saying the Chicago Club caters to people from Chicago. It's just a theme, dude. In fact, it used to be a little hole in the wall place before they remodeled way back in 2008.
In reality, HK has long catered to Asian factory managers assigned to Tijuana.
Of course, Asians from SoCal are frequent customers. I've seen lots of Vietnamese there.It would be nice if some Asians worked there.
It would be nice if some Asians worked there.There are Asians readily available at massage parlors in USA. No need to cross the border.
And those who want big Asian selection can fly to Asia where service providers are plentiful at prices lower than Tijuana for higher level of service.
Many of the Mexican gals have Asian facial features. So that may be sufficient?
There are Asians readily available at massage parlors in USA......Unfortunately not at Hong Kong prices.
Unfortunately not at Hong Kong prices.Ehh, pretty close. $190 out the door for half hour on average for full service and about $230 for one hour.
Keep in mind that you don't have to pay $40 for 30 minutes if you don't have your own room, if you have your own room you're paying even more than that unless it's a Monday or Tuesday and that's with the VIP card which costs $70. You also don't have to spend time going to Mexico, which usually takes hours altogether. No greedy taxi drivers, don't have to spend money on drinks, don't have to tip anybody, don't have to deal with cops robbing and harassing you, no pushy meseros, etc. This is all on top of the average HK girl wanting anywhere from $120-150 nowadays for a 30 minute session, 60 at best.
Vagabundo1
01-30-25, 09:11
Anyone seen edith back alley girl?
Ehh, pretty close. $190 out the door for half hour on average for full service and about $230 for one hour.
Keep in mind that you don't have to pay $40 for 30 minutes if you don't have your own room, if you have your own room you're paying even more than that unless it's a Monday or Tuesday and that's with the VIP card which costs $70. You also don't have to spend time going to Mexico, which usually takes hours altogether. No greedy taxi drivers, don't have to spend money on drinks, don't have to tip anybody, don't have to deal with cops robbing and harassing you, no pushy meseros, etc. This is all on top of the average HK girl wanting anywhere from $120-150 nowadays for a 30 minute session, 60 at best.But, you might have to deal with being arrested with your name and picture in the newspapers if that MP is ever part of a "sting" in any city, USA For me, this makes going to Mexico a bit more tolerable LOL.
But, you might have to deal with being arrested with your name and picture in the newspapers if that MP is ever part of a "sting" in any city, USA For me, this makes going to Mexico a bit more tolerable LOL.
While I get where you're coming from, you would have to be the unluckiest man in the world in order for that to happen.
Every cop knows what's going on in these places and have bigger problems to deal with. I have buddies and coworkers who have been going to these places damn near 20 years and none of them have ever been arrested. Ocean spa in Kearny Village Rd is the last place I knew of that got busted and they knew weeks ahead of time it was coming and had already redirected all of their clients to their new location which is still running fine a year later. The only people that got in trouble were the owners.
Anyone seen edith back alley girl?Edith at Hotel Mateo's in alley.
Baxter Slade
01-31-25, 06:18
While I get where you're coming from, you would have to be the unluckiest man in the world in order for that to happen.
Every cop knows what's going on in these places and have bigger problems to deal with. I have buddies and coworkers who have been going to these places damn near 20 years and none of them have ever been arrested. Ocean spa in Kearny Village Rd is the last place I knew of that got busted and they knew weeks ahead of time it was coming and had already redirected all of their clients to their new location which is still running fine a year later. The only people that got in trouble were the owners.Even Robert Kraft with all his money couldn't sweep it under the rug.
StubbornMule
01-31-25, 08:26
Seen her before. She is cool. Treat her well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtyCEItxP4&t=872s
Says it all here. At some point in the vid says, Chinos are so generous they would pay her $300/30 min. Shishhhh!!!!!! We are being priced out.What is her name?
ABAJoeSmith123
02-01-25, 04:49
If an HK girl had a visa to come to the USA (travel visa, actual visa, etc), would you ever invite them to your home and let them know where you live, LOL? Just curious. I've encountered maybe 3 chicas that actually come to the usa a lot and I knew a girl from Chicago club that finally got a visa to come to the usa and eventually asked to stay at my place but then I suddenly felt very uncomfortable about that. Thoughts on this? Good / bad idea?
If an HK girl had a visa to come to the USA (travel visa, actual visa, etc), would you ever invite them to your home and let them know where you live, LOL? Just curious. I've encountered maybe 3 chicas that actually come to the usa a lot and I knew a girl from Chicago club that finally got a visa to come to the usa and eventually asked to stay at my place but then I suddenly felt very uncomfortable about that. Thoughts on this? Good / bad idea?I never had a problem with a girl visiting. Depends on your situation really. I'm single and live alone. I did have a girl steal some jewelry but it wasn't worth much about $500 and we hooked up the entire time. I see that as payment.
If an HK girl had a visa to come to the USA (travel visa, actual visa, etc), would you ever invite them to your home and let them know where you live, LOL? Just curious. I've encountered maybe 3 chicas that actually come to the usa a lot and I knew a girl from Chicago club that finally got a visa to come to the usa and eventually asked to stay at my place but then I suddenly felt very uncomfortable about that. Thoughts on this? Good / bad idea?What would happen, what is the worst case scenario, and what are the chances that can happen? I say live life man with risks, since it is full of it whether you like it or not. There are millions in the US who are living a timid and stifled life from fear of giving their personal information online, including email. Take my sister who told me she doesn't want to register with Deepseek from fear of having their personal data stolen. LOL. She has been active member in facebook for years. She has a strong feeling about it, something I can't understand. She wouldn't even open a LinkedIn profile.
edit - should have started with this. If you are not good at reading people I would just say stick to the clubs. There are girls who will take advantage of everything they possibly can. I take few risks and I feel I am pretty good at reading girls who I can trust. I am single and there is not much to be taken advantage from me, I just do not like dealing with the drama these hustle games come with.
I know a guy in LOS Angeles who is always letting sex workers come to his pad. Most of the time nothing happens but he does have a few horror stories. One girl found out where he worked while at his pad and took her hustle game to his work. Few other stories of stolen items, credit cards and one time a "pimp" of some kind came to his pad.
My own experiences is I have met a lot of girls outside the club. I go to hotel first for one night where I know nothing gets stolen. If anything happens it is the girl for sure. A couple have successfully passed that test get taken to longer trips with more risk.
As for bringing to my pad, it would have to be someone I have had multiple good experiences with. Never taken Mexico sex worker home. I probably would risk it with 2 of them but they do not have visas. Have taken very few USA sex workers home over the years. For me this just opens a lot of opportunity for headaches I do not want to deal with. Hotels do not cost that much money to me vs the potential crap that can happen. The percentage of ones who can come to my pad is extremely low.
If an HK girl had a visa to come to the USA (travel visa, actual visa, etc), would you ever invite them to your home and let them know where you live, LOL? Just curious. I've encountered maybe 3 chicas that actually come to the usa a lot and I knew a girl from Chicago club that finally got a visa to come to the usa and eventually asked to stay at my place but then I suddenly felt very uncomfortable about that. Thoughts on this? Good / bad idea?
Two weeks ago did my first Monday trip. I like Thursday and Fri / Sat each for different reasons. Have tried Wed but do not like the events I have went to on those days.
The Master Suit with Jacuzzi was $45 with the VIP card on Monday. The talent level was down but HK still had a lot of sexy locas. Many 7 and 8's, a few 9's. No one asked for a wine. Every girl I talked to asked $100 or $120. I think girls definitely know when to ask $100 and when to ask $150.
Two girls stood out but forgot their names. A short petite dark skin girl was constantly going upstairs, solid 9 if petite and short your type. She was a lot of fun. Would definitely never be available on a Friday. Another one was more in the 7-8 range depending on one's taste. Really fun upstairs. Once girls realized I was not there on a budget they seemed to want to hang out with me more. Think most guys there on Monday are there on a budget.
Had to work next day so was at border just before 10. Not sure if I will repeat Monday. The low cost room was nice. I do enjoy how more wild things get on Friday and Sat though. All the girls asking for lower prices to go upstairs may appeal to some.
Two weeks ago did my first Monday trip. I like Thursday and Fri / Sat each for different reasons. Have tried Wed but do not like the events I have went to on those days.
The Master Suit with Jacuzzi was $45 with the VIP card on Monday. The talent level was down but HK still had a lot of sexy locas. Many 7 and 8's, a few 9's. No one asked for a wine. Every girl I talked to asked $100 or $120. I think girls definitely know when to ask $100 and when to ask $150.
Two girls stood out but forgot their names. A short petite dark skin girl was constantly going upstairs, solid 9 if petite and short your type. She was a lot of fun. Would definitely never be available on a Friday. Another one was more in the 7-8 range depending on one's taste. Really fun upstairs. Once girls realized I was not there on a budget they seemed to want to hang out with me more. Think most guys there on Monday are there on a budget.
Had to work next day so was at border just before 10. Not sure if I will repeat Monday. The low cost room was nice. I do enjoy how more wild things get on Friday and Sat though. All the girls asking for lower prices to go upstairs may appeal to some.Tuesday is better than Monday because some chicas who work Friday and Saturday also work Tuesday. The hotel discount is the same as Monday. I hope the chicas don't demand a 25% Trump tariff and increase the price of services. Hehehe!
Captain Solo
02-03-25, 13:01
Sheinbaum will retaliate with 25% tariff on all pussies consumed by gringos.
Tuesday is better than Monday because some chicas who work Friday and Saturday also work Tuesday. The hotel discount is the same as Monday. I hope the chicas don't demand a 25% Trump tariff and increase the price of services. Hehehe!
StubbornMule
02-05-25, 06:49
Thinking of visiting in a week or two. Have there been any changes to the club atmosphere / border crossings after the recent US-Mexico political drama? Is everything the same at the crossings?
Enter The V
02-05-25, 12:59
Thinking of visiting in a week or two. Have there been any changes to the club atmosphere / border crossings after the recent US-Mexico political drama? Is everything the same at the crossings?Well the Orange clown has made an enemy out of Mexico and Canada, What do you expect?
Thinking of visiting in a week or two. Have there been any changes to the club atmosphere / border crossings after the recent US-Mexico political drama? Is everything the same at the crossings?This week, pedestrian crossing in San Ysidro entrance to Mexico there were about 8 to 10 Mexican officers (normally there are 2) plus X-ray luggage and a sniffing dog. Returning entrance to the USA in San Ysidro everything looked normal. On TV from Tijuana I watched as military planes with the National Guard landed in Tijuana. In the Hong Kong club everything was normal. At night the Tijuana police have a checkpoint at the entrance to the viaduct at the exit from Zona Norte. They check private cars and sometimes taxis. Hong Kong limo is safe they do not check. (There is no 25 % Trump tax on chica services yet )
I've read on here of guys taking the chicas back to their hotel rooms and the girls wanting to smoke. Not sure what they're smoking, but trying to find out if smoking is allowed in any of the rooms at the HK hotels. Have plans to stay in Rizo on my April visit.
I've read on here of guys taking the chicas back to their hotel rooms and the girls wanting to smoke. Not sure what they're smoking, but trying to find out if smoking is allowed in any of the rooms at the HK hotels. Have plans to stay in Rizo on my April visit.Every room I have stayed in has an ashtray. Don't think they care either way as long as you're a paying customer.
One of my wingmen is really into smoking marijuana with the girls. One time he ended up for 4 girls in his room because they wanted to place to smoke. I was next door and this mofo did not call me!! This has never happened to me but he aggressively looks for girls that smoke. It can be a little challenging getting the weed to the room but he has never herd anything about it when checking out. I can tell you it smells when I walk by.
I have let a few girls smoke weed, it does seem to improve their performance.
I've read on here of guys taking the chicas back to their hotel rooms and the girls wanting to smoke. Not sure what they're smoking, but trying to find out if smoking is allowed in any of the rooms at the HK hotels. Have plans to stay in Rizo on my April visit.
AmericanPi
02-08-25, 16:46
Thinking of visiting in a week or two. Have there been any changes to the club atmosphere / border crossings after the recent US-Mexico political drama? Is everything the same at the crossings?I don't know if it's just the day I went, but I was there last Sunday and I crossed ped east back to the US on foot at about 7 am and there was virtually no line. Totally empty.
Every room I have stayed in has an ashtray. Don't think they care either way as long as you're a paying customer.If someone complains they could kick you out of the room if you refuse to comply, that goes for drugs, weed, cigarettes and loudness. There was a huge fight between a group of Gringos in multiple rooms and a swarm of Security from HK and Tropical in Rizo. It was the rowdiness that started it and then it escalated. After that Rizo had a bunch new and aggressive security personnel for few Months. A girl got sick in my room once, I called the lobby and 5 minutes later 10 security guys from both clubs showed up at my door.
KombatWombat
02-09-25, 05:26
Anyone on following this thread mongered been to fkks clubs in europe?
How does Hong Kong compare in terms of service expected and average looks of girls?
Anyone on following this thread mongered been to fkks clubs in europe?
How does Hong Kong compare in terms of service expected and average looks of girls?FKK girls are the hottest providers in the world. My experience with service is that you can expect a greater percentage of HK senoritas to give better service than FKK chicks.
AmericanPi
02-09-25, 19:21
Anyone on following this thread mongered been to fkks clubs in europe?
How does Hong Kong compare in terms of service expected and average looks of girls?Hard to compare. Apples and oranges.
FKK is more Eastern European girls. Mostly Romania. If you like white chicks. HK is obviously Latinas. Many from further south.
FKK are larger, more spread out, often suburban, a bit more luxurious. HK is usually a sardine can with loud music. And it's obviously a seedy place in a very seedy part of a seedy town.
FKK you're mostly left alone except girls making eyes. HK has waiters bothering you every 30 seconds.
FKK ironically is cheaper to bang. But you pay more to get there obviously.
I prefer an FKK but it's not practical to go often due to flights so HK will do.
Anyone on following this thread mongered been to fkks clubs in europe?
How does Hong Kong compare in terms of service expected and average looks of girls?Was in Salzburg, Austria a couple years ago and visited FKK Mystic. You can search and find my report on here. 75 Euros to access the club, include a buffet, beer and soft drinks. Like other mentioned, mostly Romanian girls, pretty, most spoke English. Girls were friendly and available for 80 Euros for the hour, additional 50 for BBBJCIM and 80 more for Greek. Not al offered Greek, most pushed for CIM. Went on a Saturday night and was told there were 80 girls there, maybe 15 guys. Was it worth it. Hell yeah! Wish I could go back without the SO.
FYI, rates were 2 years ago and $1.05 would get you 1 Euro. Mystic also had a Laufhaus(brothel) adjacent to the club. I didnt partake. I did however go to a laufhaus in the city. Basically a run down hotel. Had a bar that I didnt visit. Went straight to the girls room and knocked and was let in. Turkish girl, not my type, very disappointing experience.
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AmericanPi
02-13-25, 15:21
I was at ped East a few weeks ago. Basically zero wait in the non sentri lines. Shocking. It was super early tho. Maybe 7 am.
Anyone else see super short waits to cross since trump came in?
Was in Salzburg, Austria a couple years ago and visited FKK Mystic. You can search and find my report on here. 75 Euros to access the club, include a buffet, beer and soft drinks. Like other mentioned, mostly Romanian girls, pretty, most spoke English. Girls were friendly and available for 80 Euros for the hour, additional 50 for BBBJCIM and 80 more for Greek. Not al offered Greek, most pushed for CIM. Went on a Saturday night and was told there were 80 girls there, maybe 15 guys. Was it worth it. Hell yeah! Wish I could go back without the SO.
FYI, rates were 2 years ago and $1.05 would get you 1 Euro. Mystic also had a Laufhaus(brothel) adjacent to the club. I didnt partake. I did however go to a laufhaus in the city. Basically a run down hotel. Had a bar that I didnt visit. Went straight to the girls room and knocked and was let in. Turkish girl, not my type, very disappointing experience.What is the demographic situation of the clientele in the FKK's, Mostly European Whites, or mixed? As in additional to whites are there Asians, Blacks, Arabs, Indians, etc. Like we have in Tijuana?
KombatWombat
02-15-25, 08:30
Was in Salzburg, Austria a couple years ago and visited FKK Mystic. Was it worth it. Hell yeah! Wish I could go back without the SO.I should have stated in my earlier post that I had already visited a handful of FKK clubs.
Funnily enough Mystik was one of the ones I visited. Highly rated but not super well known club. Didn't realise it had a laufhaus next to it.
Its Tijuana I have not been to but am contemplating on doing so.
AmericanPi
02-15-25, 16:56
What is the demographic situation of the clientele in the FKK's, Mostly European Whites, or mixed? As in additional to whites are there Asians, Blacks, Arabs, Indians, etc. Like we have in Tijuana?Very mixed. Didn't see any black. But tons of European, a few American, and definitely some Asian and south Asian. Some Arab too.
The ones I went to were in Frankfurt. Keeping in mind, Frankfurt is a massive airline hub like Atlanta. So it's easy for people to take a long layover.
I should have stated in my earlier post that I had already visited a handful of FKK clubs.
Funnily enough Mystik was one of the ones I visited. Highly rated but not super well known club. Didn't realise it had a laufhaus next to it.
Its Tijuana I have not been to but am contemplating on doing so.Temper your expectations. Tijuana is not close to the FKK's.
I should have stated in my earlier post that I had already visited a handful of FKK clubs.
Funnily enough Mystik was one of the ones I visited. Highly rated but not super well known club. Didn't realise it had a laufhaus next to it.
Its Tijuana I have not been to but am contemplating on doing so.Adjust your expectation. ZN in Tijuana is a slum compared to where you been in Germany. Police, guns, armored cars, beggars, druggies, stray dogs, stray kids, sewage stench, fumes, street vendors, immigration lines. Other than that it is heaven.
LuvMexicanas
02-15-25, 21:05
Temper your expectations. Tijuana is not close to the FKK's.Apples and oranges. There's too much overthinking going on. If you're attracted to Mexican girls, then visit. If you're not, then don't. Yes, it's grimy in Zona Norte but it's not right to generalize that to the entire city of Tijuana. Doing so is as idiotic as thinking Tepito is a reflection of Mexico City as a whole. On a final note, I'll take the food in Mexico every day of the week over Germany or Austria.
Apples and oranges. There's too much overthinking going on. If you're attracted to Mexican girls, then visit. If you're not, then don't. Yes, it's grimy in Zona Norte but it's not right to generalize that to the entire city of Tijuana. Doing so is as idiotic as thinking Tepito is a reflection of Mexico City as a whole. On a final note, I'll take the food in Mexico every day of the week over Germany or Austria.There is a big difference in transportation costs. I was in Munich in December and then transferred to another city in Europe (not for sex but other purposes). Non stop San Diego to Munich round trip Lufthansa cost me $1800 and extra $75 luggage. My cost here travel to Hong Kong club is $5 trolley round trip when I park in trolley parking and $6 Hong Kong limo round trip total $11. Plus add hotel prices in Europe $100 and up / night plus restaurants it comes out expensive. IMO, FKK is good for local Germans, and for neighboring countries like France, Luxembourg (where prostitution is illegal) etc. That is why Germans are always happy because almost every city in Germany has brothels and sex clubs! (similar to Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria) If you are looking for chica that looks European, there are some in Hong Kong too. In Germany they also have problems, for example some crazy people drive their cars into a crowd of people on the street (a week ago in Munich). When it comes to sex I vote for Tijuana because it's closer.
Cocr Brotheler
02-17-25, 01:48
Europe would be great if already living there and can use the trains and low cost Euro airlines. I like to go to Europe and Asia but don't want to go into debt for it when have Monterrey MEX in my backyard (where I going tomorrow for 6 days! And Tijuana and CR closer and quicker to amortize the sunk travel costs.
Only country I would want to live long term is Spain since familiar with the language but can get struggle around with other languages short term for FKK experiences. .
TheShyster
02-17-25, 07:28
Adjust your expectation. ZN in Tijuana is a slum compared to where you been in Germany. Police, guns, armored cars, beggars, druggies, stray dogs, stray kids, sewage stench, fumes, street vendors, immigration lines. Other than that it is heaven.Why not just have the best of both worlds, book a hotel in San Diego, spend the day absorbing the picture perfect postcard worthy beaches, parks and other SD tourist spots downtown.
Then come night time, live like a high roller but at the fraction of the price in Tijuana. Limo pickup from the border directly shuttles you to the Hong Kong Gentleman's Club. This bypasses all the bad scenery that Zenduka is pointing out. Once in club you can get Las Vegas style services at fraction of cost. Invite the 2 girls doing the lesbian foam show for drinks. Because you already know a threesome with these 2 girls are open to girl on girl action for the right price. Get a bottle and private VIP room where you can get to know these girls (or even fuck in VIP room), or better yet get a luxury Jacuzzi Room with a stripper pole and minibar in Hotel Cascadas next door.
Below is copied and pasted from my visit to Mystic on the Austrian / German border outside of Salzburg. Please note that it is my understanding that Mystic had closed for a while and re-opened as a "swingers club. " This was my only experience in an FKK / Sauna Club and other FKK will obviously be different. Regarding the girls, most were Romania and eastern Euroean. I did do a session with a girl from Moldavia. There were also a couple of Black girls there, one who I seriously considered as she had the body type I lover.
"All of the girls I saw were Pretty, dark complexed Romania girls with just a touch of exotic look to them!
I was in Salzburg, Asustria for a few days on holiday with the wife. Circumstances which I would rather not discuss allowed me 3 nights to myself. I had done some research on another board about the hobbying opportunities there and in Munich. Really didn't expect anything to happen as we were traveling with another couple.
My first night to myself, I chose to meet an "escort" at her location. I arranged a taxi to take me there and was surprised that it was a laufhaus (in Germany, literally *house). I went to the room number that I was given and was met by a short, somewhat thick Romanian woman. She had a very "Roma / Gypsy" look to her. In any other circumstances, I would not choose this girl. But since I was already there, I went through. Had a decent time, 100 + an additional 20 for BBBJ. Just a couple positions, mish, CG and doggy to finish. Paid for the hour, but was in and out in about 30. This is my only experience in a laufhaus, but I was not impressed. Think a 2 star hotel with tired room, mirrors all around and tiny shower with trash receptacle overflowing with the tools of our hobby! The club was called Vesuvius.
The next day I rented a car with the intention of driving out to FKK Mystic on the outskirts of the city near the Germany border. The club is about a 20 minute drive, but a bit hard to find. You have to get off of the main highway and eventually find a small, one way, unpaved road through the forest. I didn't realize, but you can also have a taxi drop you off at the service pavilion on the highway and climb the stairs to the club. It can be seen from the highway. At this location there is the sauna club Mystic and a laufhaus for those who just want a quick relief.
My research on the club did not leave me with the impression that it would be very nice. I was pleasantly surprised to be very pleased with the club. Upon arrival, I was greeted at the front desk and asked if it was my first time there. She explained that there was an 85 (A Euro at the time + $1. 03 US) cover charge that included wine, beer and soft drinks and all the food you want off of the buffet. She had a girl, Loren show me around after changing. You are give a nice robe, towel and bath slippers that you change into. You leave everything else in the locker and store any valuables in the safe within. One you had a session with a girl, you both go back to settle up. The club consists of several rooms. The locker room has an adjourning shower area, dining room with a long table that has maybe 18 chairs and 2 food stations, one with salads and the other main entree. Food is typical German fare, lots of veggies, potatoes and pork. Don't expect fancy cuisine! At most times there were a few girls and a few guys at the table eating. It is also a decent spot to watch the girls as they go between the men's locker room, front desk and the main lounge area. There are also some televisions in here and were tuned to the World Cup broadcast.
The main lounge was spacious and had a bar where you can get the wine, beer or soft drinks. Distilled spirits are available, but you would need to purchase a full bottle, like for 150. There is a cinema (kino) room with 3 rows of beds where you can watch the porn videos they show. Very dated videos of older participants. Girls are willing to join you in here for a BJ and sex. Also they have an area with a small lounge and sauna with shower, another room with a steam bath and tanning bed (for he girls? A smoking room, an outside area and lastly a massage room with about 5 beds. When I was there a few of the guys were sleeping in the massage room.
About the girls in general. Most seem to be from Eastern Europe, predominantly Romania. I had 5 different girls while there, 4 Romanian and 1 from Moldavia. Darker complexion, like a tan, dark eyes and hair and pretty. All spoke decent English. There is a range of body types with most having nice hourglass figures, a few thicker and a few slender. Most were see breast or better and looked to be between the ages of 22-30. Only a guess. No older broads. The girls are naked in the club, with maybe a garter belt or stockings. You get a really good idea of what you getting! Rates seem to be standard; 70 for minimum will get you covered CFS, multiple positions for 30 minutes and CBJ, add 30 for BBBJ and an additional 50 for CIM. They really push the CIM and there are spittoons nearby for the deposit. All 5 girls I saw gave excellent BBBJ. Anal is available for 100 extra on top of any others. Seems they allow DATY, but not FIV. Do not expect GFE!
My first day there was a Saturday and was told there we 38 girls working. I didn't count, but sounds about right. About 1/3 are laying around in the main lounge, looks like they were resting or sleeping. Another 1/3 we're sitting around closer to the area of the bar, on stools or couches. I guess the other might have been with guys in the rooms are talking with guys in the lounge. The girls are friendly and will approach you to solicit and will go away if asked. There didn't seem to be that many guys there, maybe 15, mostly older (I'm 68, so older than me) and seemed to be regulars.
My first girl was Loren, a pretty blonde with dark roots, be cup, shaved, slim waste and nice hips and ass. I went all in with her, went to a private room 200 CFS, dildo play in her pussy and ass, DATY (I know, probably had a few cocks in her already, but still something I really like), then Greek with dildo in her pussy. Then moved to doggy on the side of the bed until I finished. Very vocal and lots of fun.
Took a little break and had a bite to eat. Was approached by chick from Moldavia, don't remember her name. Very proud, bigger tits, large areolas with prominent nips. She wanted to show me the porn cinema room where they also do massages. She wanted to give me a massage, but told her I wasn't interested. She asked if I wanted a BJ. Told her if we did BBBJ and in the cinema room, I was ready. Really good BBBJ, fucking, DATY, tit play, occasionally I guy or gal would come in to watch! I'm a fucking porn star. LOL!
Last girl was another Romanian. My perfect type, skinny, very pretty, glasses, small A's with tiny nips, looked to by maybe 20 yo. Same activity as the previous one in the cinema.
So a total of 485,4 hours and 3 sessions. Not too bad given the quality of the girls. To put into perspective, I've traveled to Club Hong Kong in Tijuana 3 times. While there is no cover charge, it can get very crowded in the evening. Usually you will pay 80-100 US for 30 minutes. If you have a room at one of HK facilities, it won't cost any extra or you can rent a room for the 30 minutes. You can negotiate for a BBBJ, but not always available. So, a little more at the FKK, but in my opinion, the quality and selection is better.
I checked out of the place, but didn't get enough. Came back on Sunday night, the next day and was told there were 27 girls working. Again not be guys around. Had bit to eat, then went into the lounge and was approached by a Romania girl, again, don't recall a name. Over to the Cinema room for a BBBJ, CFS, multiple positions and went the extra 50 for CIM. Finished there and then she went over to the spittoon to make the deposit. Back to the dining area to relax and recharge. Struck up a conversation with a local, had a bit to eat, then went back to the lounge area again. I had had my eye on another very pretty, slender gal with nice A cups and beautiful hair. No sooner than I sit down and she, Stephanie, comes over. Didn't take me long and we're off to a private room. I know I'm not going to cum again so soon, so CIM was not a option although she tried to upsell. I did go for BBBJ, which was very good and the cycled into several positions including K9 and standing MISH on the side of the bed. She really wanted me to CIM, so she went back to the BBBJ again and tried like a trooper, but it wasn't happening. ".
Very mixed. Didn't see any black. But tons of European, a few American, and definitely some Asian and south Asian. Some Arab too.
The ones I went to were in Frankfurt. Keeping in mind, Frankfurt is a massive airline hub like Atlanta. So it's easy for people to take a long layover.
Captain Solo
02-18-25, 00:10
Rexriver.
Excellent report on FKK Mystic AKA FKK Babylon near Salzburg with comparison to Hong Kong in Tijuana. Babylon's line up looks very good, looks better than Hong Kong, with quite a few girls I would spend time and money on. Salzburg is 150 miles from Vienna, too far for my trip.
However, based on Babylon's line up, I would try FKK GoldenTime in Vienna. 95 E entry plus 100 E for 30 min (100430) is kind of steep, may be worth it if one can spend 8 to 10 hours just lounge, eat, drink, flirt and pop multiple girls. Wonder how much girls' drinks would cost in GoldenTime?
Surprise, a report lists 2 dozens Asian Laufhause in Vienna with some decent-looking girls, costs 30-50 E for 30 min which is very low. Is this current pricings and is even realistic? This pic looks very good. But in real life, do girls look any where as young and hot?
https://www.studioa25.wien/
Escorts have just too many baits and switches and big waste of time. I prefer WYSIWYG in clubs or Laufhaus.
Below is copied and pasted from my visit to Mystic on the Austrian / German border outside of Salzburg. Please note that it is my understanding that Mystic had closed for a while and re-opened as a "swingers club. " This was my only experience in an FKK / Sauna Club and other FKK will obviously be different. Regarding the girls, most were Romania and eastern Euroean. I did do a session with a girl from Moldavia. There were also a couple of Black girls there, one who I seriously considered as she had the body type I lover.
"All of the girls I saw were Pretty, dark complexed Romania girls with just a touch of exotic look to them!
I was in Salzburg, Asustria for a few days on holiday with the wife. Circumstances which I would rather not discuss allowed me 3 nights to myself. I had done some research on another board about the hobbying opportunities there and in Munich. Really didn't expect anything to happen as we were traveling with another couple.
My first night to myself, I chose to meet an "escort" at her location. I arranged a taxi to take me there and was surprised that it was a laufhaus (in Germany, literally *house). I went to the room number that I was given and was met by a short, somewhat thick Romanian woman. She had a very "Roma / Gypsy" look to her. In any other circumstances, I would not choose this girl. But since I was already there, I went through. Had a decent time, 100 + an additional 20 for BBBJ. Just a couple positions, mish, CG and doggy to finish. Paid for the hour, but was in and out in about 30. This is my only experience in a laufhaus, but I was not impressed. Think a 2 star hotel with tired room, mirrors all around and tiny shower with trash receptacle overflowing with the tools of our hobby! The club was called Vesuvius.
The next day I rented a car with the intention of driving out to FKK Mystic on the outskirts of the city near the Germany border. The club is about a 20 minute drive, but a bit hard to find. You have to get off of the main highway and eventually find a small, one way, unpaved road through the forest. I didn't realize, but you can also have a taxi drop you off at the service pavilion on the highway and climb the stairs to the club. It can be seen from the highway. At this location there is the sauna club Mystic and a laufhaus for those who just want a quick relief.
My research on the club did not leave me with the impression that it would be very nice. I was pleasantly surprised to be very pleased with the club. Upon arrival, I was greeted at the front desk and asked if it was my first time there. She explained that there was an 85 (A Euro at the time + $1. 03 US) cover charge that included wine, beer and soft drinks and all the food you want off of the buffet. She had a girl, Loren show me around after changing. You are give a nice robe, towel and bath slippers that you change into. You leave everything else in the locker and store any valuables in the safe within. One you had a session with a girl, you both go back to settle up. The club consists of several rooms. The locker room has an adjourning shower area, dining room with a long table that has maybe 18 chairs and 2 food stations, one with salads and the other main entree. Food is typical German fare, lots of veggies, potatoes and pork. Don't expect fancy cuisine! At most times there were a few girls and a few guys at the table eating. It is also a decent spot to watch the girls as they go between the men's locker room, front desk and the main lounge area. There are also some televisions in here and were tuned to the World Cup broadcast.
The main lounge was spacious and had a bar where you can get the wine, beer or soft drinks. Distilled spirits are available, but you would need to purchase a full bottle, like for 150. There is a cinema (kino) room with 3 rows of beds where you can watch the porn videos they show. Very dated videos of older participants. Girls are willing to join you in here for a BJ and sex. Also they have an area with a small lounge and sauna with shower, another room with a steam bath and tanning bed (for he girls? A smoking room, an outside area and lastly a massage room with about 5 beds. When I was there a few of the guys were sleeping in the massage room.
About the girls in general. Most seem to be from Eastern Europe, predominantly Romania. I had 5 different girls while there, 4 Romanian and 1 from Moldavia. Darker complexion, like a tan, dark eyes and hair and pretty. All spoke decent English. There is a range of body types with most having nice hourglass figures, a few thicker and a few slender. Most were see breast or better and looked to be between the ages of 22-30. Only a guess. No older broads. The girls are naked in the club, with maybe a garter belt or stockings. You get a really good idea of what you getting! Rates seem to be standard; 70 for minimum will get you covered CFS, multiple positions for 30 minutes and CBJ, add 30 for BBBJ and an additional 50 for CIM. They really push the CIM and there are spittoons nearby for the deposit. All 5 girls I saw gave excellent BBBJ. Anal is available for 100 extra on top of any others. Seems they allow DATY, but not FIV. Do not expect GFE!
My first day there was a Saturday and was told there we 38 girls working. I didn't count, but sounds about right. About 1/3 are laying around in the main lounge, looks like they were resting or sleeping. Another 1/3 we're sitting around closer to the area of the bar, on stools or couches. I guess the other might have been with guys in the rooms are talking with guys in the lounge. The girls are friendly and will approach you to solicit and will go away if asked. There didn't seem to be that many guys there, maybe 15, mostly older (I'm 68, so older than me) and seemed to be regulars.
My first girl was Loren, a pretty blonde with dark roots, be cup, shaved, slim waste and nice hips and ass. I went all in with her, went to a private room 200 CFS, dildo play in her pussy and ass, DATY (I know, probably had a few cocks in her already, but still something I really like), then Greek with dildo in her pussy. Then moved to doggy on the side of the bed until I finished. Very vocal and lots of fun.
Took a little break and had a bite to eat. Was approached by chick from Moldavia, don't remember her name. Very proud, bigger tits, large areolas with prominent nips. She wanted to show me the porn cinema room where they also do massages. She wanted to give me a massage, but told her I wasn't interested. She asked if I wanted a BJ. Told her if we did BBBJ and in the cinema room, I was ready. Really good BBBJ, fucking, DATY, tit play, occasionally I guy or gal would come in to watch! I'm a fucking porn star. LOL!
Last girl was another Romanian. My perfect type, skinny, very pretty, glasses, small A's with tiny nips, looked to by maybe 20 yo. Same activity as the previous one in the cinema.
So a total of 485,4 hours and 3 sessions. Not too bad given the quality of the girls. To put into perspective, I've traveled to Club Hong Kong in Tijuana 3 times. While there is no cover charge, it can get very crowded in the evening. Usually you will pay 80-100 US for 30 minutes. If you have a room at one of HK facilities, it won't cost any extra or you can rent a room for the 30 minutes. You can negotiate for a BBBJ, but not always available. So, a little more at the FKK, but in my opinion, the quality and selection is better.
I checked out of the place, but didn't get enough. Came back on Sunday night, the next day and was told there were 27 girls working. Again not be guys around. Had bit to eat, then went into the lounge and was approached by a Romania girl, again, don't recall a name. Over to the Cinema room for a BBBJ, CFS, multiple positions and went the extra 50 for CIM. Finished there and then she went over to the spittoon to make the deposit. Back to the dining area to relax and recharge. Struck up a conversation with a local, had a bit to eat, then went back to the lounge area again. I had had my eye on another very pretty, slender gal with nice A cups and beautiful hair. No sooner than I sit down and she, Stephanie, comes over. Didn't take me long and we're off to a private room. I know I'm not going to cum again so soon, so CIM was not a option although she tried to upsell. I did go for BBBJ, which was very good and the cycled into several positions including K9 and standing MISH on the side of the bed. She really wanted me to CIM, so she went back to the BBBJ again and tried like a trooper, but it wasn't happening. ".
TheShyster
02-18-25, 01:27
There is a big difference in transportation costs. I was in Munich in December and then transferred to another city in Europe (not for sex but other purposes). Non stop San Diego to Munich round trip Lufthansa cost me $1800 and extra $75 luggage. My cost here travel to Hong Kong club is $5 trolley round trip when I park in trolley parking and $6 Hong Kong limo round trip total $11. Plus add hotel prices in Europe $100 and up / night plus restaurants it comes out expensive. IMO, FKK is good for local Germans, and for neighboring countries like France, Luxembourg (where prostitution is illegal) etc. That is why Germans are always happy because almost every city in Germany has brothels and sex clubs! (similar to Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria) If you are looking for chica that looks European, there are some in Hong Kong too. In Germany they also have problems, for example some crazy people drive their cars into a crowd of people on the street (a week ago in Munich). When it comes to sex I vote for Tijuana because it's closer.Not a whole lot of new reviews and photos of hk these days. I suspect HK is so well known trhough word of mouth and advertised through social media, its just easier to get intel direct from friend and check out the photos on instagram or photogallery ok hktijuana website. That being said I do enjoy efforts at keeping this forumalive of tijuana vs X. FKK seems too apples va oranges. What about a more apples to apples comparison. Like maybe tijuana vs mexico city? Or tijuana vs Bogota? Anyone has experience in both to do pros and cons comparison?
About the girls in general. Most seem to be from Eastern Europe, predominantly Romania. I had 5 different girls while there, 4 Romanian and 1 from Moldavia. Darker complexion, like a tan, dark eyes and hair and pretty. All spoke decent English. There is a range of body types with most having nice hourglass figures, a few thicker and a few slender. Most were see breast or better and looked to be between the ages of 22-30. Only a guess. No older broads. The girls are naked in the club, with maybe a garter belt or stockings. You get a really good idea of what you getting! Rates seem to be standard; 70 for minimum will get you covered CFS, multiple positions for 30 minutes and CBJ, add 30 for BBBJ and an additional 50 for CIM. They really push the CIM and there are spittoons nearby for the deposit. All 5 girls I saw gave excellent BBBJ. Anal is available for 100 extra on top of any others. Seems they allow DATY, but not FIV. Do not expect GFE!
"Do not expect GFE!" -- This is why I don't think I'd like it, though I've never been to an FKK. There are two types of people in the world, rule followers and rule breakers. I'm definitely a rule breaker.
German's are known for their love of rules and order. Everything is very nice and pristine there, but at the end of the day, there is a rule telling you what you can and can't do. Tijuana is the opposite: it's dirty, corrupt, lawless at times, like the wild-west, in a sense. The lack of rules and order is what makes it great. On any given night anything can happen with any girl. You can literally get away with murder there (not that I would try! I don't go to Tijuana to follow the rules, but to make sure I break every one of them.
There are a lot of girls in Tijuana that mix business and pleasure. Many of the girls there have a kind of "live for the day" attitude. They aren't there planning their 401k contributions for their retirement. There is not that much of a barrier separating prostitutes from normal women. It's very easy to cross this barrier. This is what I love about Tijuana. You don't really have to negotiate anything there, you just do what you want. And in many cases, pay what you want. The upselling of services at these FKKs already seems like a drag. I don't want to be handed some menu with the price list like I'm ordering dinner. I'll wager the sex is more robotic there too, and you will never get past just being a client with these girls. If that's your cup of tea, fine. But for me, no thanks.
PS: One good aspect of FKKs is that they walk around naked. Imaging if they did this at HK!
What ever happened to heels? Last time I was in HK, literally half the women there had these black boots on (a couple red ones two). They all think it's so cool to have these things, so they all copy each other. Women are such slaves to trends and competing with other women that they sometimes even go out of their way to look bad (remember high waisted shorts! Not that these boots actually look bad, but still.
I'm a legs man. I like to see a nice pair of legs. Not covered to the mid thigh with some thick boots. Breasts, I don't care about. In fact, I prefer smaller. But please, show some leg, for god sake.
Remember the golden rule, ladies: "less is more, less is more".
What ever happened to heels? Last time I was in HK, literally half the women there had these black boots on (a couple red ones two). They all think it's so cool to have these things, so they all copy each other. Women are such slaves to trends and competing with other women that they sometimes even go out of their way to look bad (remember high waisted shorts! Not that these boots actually look bad, but still.
I'm a legs man. I like to see a nice pair of legs. Not covered to the mid thigh with some thick boots. Breasts, I don't care about. In fact, I prefer smaller. But please, show some leg, for god sake.
Remember the golden rule, ladies: "less is more, less is more".Its cold. Its really cold. Wait a Month.
Baxter Slade
02-18-25, 04:00
"Do not expect GFE!" -- This is why I don't think I'd like it, though I've never been to an FKK. There are two types of people in the world, rule followers and rule breakers. I'm definitely a rule breaker.
German's are known for their love of rules and order. Everything is very nice and pristine there, but at the end of the day, there is a rule telling you what you can and can't do. Tijuana is the opposite: it's dirty, corrupt, lawless at times, like the wild-west, in a sense. The lack of rules and order is what makes it great. On any given night anything can happen with any girl. You can literally get away with murder there (not that I would try! I don't go to Tijuana to follow the rules, but to make sure I break every one of them.
There are a lot of girls in Tijuana that mix business and pleasure. Many of the girls there have a kind of "live for the day" attitude. They aren't there planning their 401k contributions for their retirement. There is not that much of a barrier separating prostitutes from normal women. It's very easy to cross this barrier. This is what I love about Tijuana. You don't really have to negotiate anything there, you just do what you want. And in many cases, pay what you want. The upselling of services at these FKKs already seems like a drag. I don't want to be handed some menu with the price list like I'm ordering dinner. I'll wager the sex is more robotic there too, and you will never get past just being a client with these girls. If that's your cup of tea, fine. But for me, no thanks.
Where is the like button?
I could never put my finger on why I love Tijuana. You bring up some great points.
Its the wild wild west.
"Do not expect GFE!" -- This is why I don't think I'd like it, though I've never been to an FKK. There are two types of people in the world, rule followers and rule breakers. I'm definitely a rule breaker.
German's are known for their love of rules and order. Everything is very nice and pristine there, but at the end of the day, there is a rule telling you what you can and can't do. Tijuana is the opposite: it's dirty, corrupt, lawless at times, like the wild-west, in a sense. The lack of rules and order is what makes it great. On any given night anything can happen with any girl. You can literally get away with murder there (not that I would try! I don't go to Tijuana to follow the rules, but to make sure I break every one of them.
There are a lot of girls in Tijuana that mix business and pleasure. Many of the girls there have a kind of "live for the day" attitude. They aren't there planning their 401k contributions for their retirement. There is not that much of a barrier separating prostitutes from normal women. It's very easy to cross this barrier. This is what I love about Tijuana. You don't really have to negotiate anything there, you just do what you want. And in many cases, pay what you want. The upselling of services at these FKKs already seems like a drag. I don't want to be handed some menu with the price list like I'm ordering dinner. I'll wager the sex is more robotic there too, and you will never get past just being a client with these girls. If that's your cup of tea, fine. But for me, no thanks.
PS: One good aspect of FKKs is that they walk around naked. Imaging if they did this at HK!Tijuana is as raw as nature is, its dirty just like the sex. Man made Law&Order, you leave it at the border, feel the ease that engulfs you as you walk through immigration into Tijuana. You follow the natural human decency, common sense and horny as FK!
AmericanPi
02-18-25, 20:43
Tijuana is as raw as nature is, its dirty just like the sex. Man made Law&Order, you leave it at the border, feel the ease that engulfs you as you walk through immigration into Tijuana. You follow the natural human decency, common sense and horny as FK!I used to not like that about Tijuana. I wanted it to be more like nicer parts of Mexico. I've come around to appreciating it. You just have to appreciate it for what it is. Like you can watch trashy reality tv and enjoy it as long as you're not lamenting the fact it's not trying to win academy awards and it's just what it is. It's trash and it's enjoyable trash. That's Tijuana. It's dirty. The land zoning sucks so every street looks like a jigsaw puzzle. You have nice restaurants next to a guy with no legs and a sign asking for help. Prostitution up the street from revolucióand. Amazing tacos. Cheap beer. Corrupt cops. It's all just tossed into a blender and poured into the streets and it's disgusting and sad and beautiful.
I get the allure of Tijuana and the "live in the moment" atmosphere. But, a trip to an FKK in Germany / Austria should be a bucket list item for all guys on here. You don't go the an FKK to experience the "neighborhood. " Many of those are not necessarily that great, kind of away from the tourist areas. And, you pay an admission fee to get in and I'm not sure if there is a limit on how long you can stay. Just hang out in your robe, eat Germany cuisine (no thanks! Drink beer and wine, and watch beautiful naked girls. If you want to partake, then fuck as many as you want for a reasonable fee, extras can be negotiated. Leave the club, and pay the fee to enter again.
I for one do not go to these places to strike up a conversation with a girl that doesn't speak English, which is most of the ladies in Tijuana, Germany is somewhat better. I gothere to fuck beautiful women. I have a type that I like, and they were more readily available at the FKK I visited. I didn't go to Europe to visit an FKK, I was there and circumstances permitted, so I seized the moment.
FYI, I have plans to be in Tijuana and work HK during the first week in April. It's my go to place and I can still find gems in HK. Not knocking either experience, they both have there attractions.
I get the allure of Tijuana and the "live in the moment" atmosphere. But, a trip to an FKK in Germany / Austria should be a bucket list item for all guys on here. You don't go the an FKK to experience the "neighborhood. " Many of those are not necessarily that great, kind of away from the tourist areas. And, you pay an admission fee to get in and I'm not sure if there is a limit on how long you can stay. Just hang out in your robe, eat Germany cuisine (no thanks! Drink beer and wine, and watch beautiful naked girls. If you want to partake, then fuck as many as you want for a reasonable fee, extras can be negotiated. Leave the club, and pay the fee to enter again.
I for one do not go to these places to strike up a conversation with a girl that doesn't speak English, which is most of the ladies in Tijuana, Germany is somewhat better. I gothere to fuck beautiful women. I have a type that I like, and they were more readily available at the FKK I visited. I didn't go to Europe to visit an FKK, I was there and circumstances permitted, so I seized the moment.
FYI, I have plans to be in Tijuana and work HK during the first week in April. It's my go to place and I can still find gems in HK. Not knocking either experience, they both have there attractions.I think that the main point is that you should visit FKK's as an extra to your europe trip, and that's fine, but it's not the main reason to make the trip because it's just so much more expensive than going to Tijuana or even Colombia.
The point of everyone here is that it is cheaper to take a trip to Tijuana and they don't see a way higher benefit to go to europe based on the cost difference.
Also, if you frequent the girls in Tijuana and develop a more of a relationship, even if it's still transactional, you can start to get more of a GFE experience out of them, even take them on trip with you for a reasonable price, that's out of the question with FKK girls.
I think that the main point is that you should visit FKK's as an extra to your europe trip, and that's fine, but it's not the main reason to make the trip because it's just so much more expensive than going to Tijuana or even Colombia. The point of everyone here is that it is cheaper to take a trip to Tijuana and they don't see a way higher benefit to go to europe based on the cost difference. Also, if you frequent the girls in Tijuana and develop a more of a relationship, even if it's still transactional, you can start to get more of a GFE experience out of them, even take them on trip with you for a reasonable price, that's out of the question with FKK girls.It is the main reason to go if the FKK sauna club scene is your thing. After Brazil I find Germany to be my favorite place to monger. I'm not particularly looking for the GFE as I have more of a preference for the PSE more often than not. Many times though I will find a girl where we click and it can turn more towards the GFE. I love anal sex with the white girls, and anal is quite readily on the menu with many girls at the FKKs. And I have the coin to spend freely at the FKKs to get what I want. So I don't care about Tijuana being cheaper. And it's also a dump! I much prefer the "big city sophistication" of a Sao Paulo to the "dirty wild west" of Tijuana (but will and have stepped on both sides of that line). I do like the Latinas too though, and after several days of fucking the European white girls I start longing for a little bit more choice in "colors". This is one of the big reasons why I have Brazil ahead of Germany. More diversity. Oh, is that a bad word now LOL! But I love them both Brazil and Germany! Last few times I was in Brazil it was absolutely Heaven on earth fucking blue-eyed blonde Brasileiras of German descent LOL! I'm heading to Brazil for a month soon. And later this year will spend a month "bumming" around Germany (pun intended). Well doggy! But at the end of the day, like someone else here said, every man should experience the FKK clubs of Germany at least once. I say the same thing about the termas of Rio and the clinicas and nightclubs of Sao Paulo. And then just stick to what you personally enjoy the most. Choose what makes you happy. But experience as much as possible when it comes to this hobby so that you can truly know what happiness as a monger looks like for you. Be happy!
Dcrist0527
02-20-25, 22:07
Let me know. I'll be hanging out in the big 3 and can use some help finishing a bottle of Don Julio 70.
TerOnlyOnce
02-21-25, 00:06
Hard to compare. Apples and oranges.
FKK is more Eastern European girls. Mostly Romania. If you like white chicks. HK is obviously Latinas. Many from further south.
FKK are larger, more spread out, often suburban, a bit more luxurious. HK is usually a sardine can with loud music. And it's obviously a seedy place in a very seedy part of a seedy town.
FKK you're mostly left alone except girls making eyes. HK has waiters bothering you every 30 seconds.
FKK ironically is cheaper to bang. But you pay more to get there obviously.
I prefer an FKK but it's not practical to go often due to flights so HK will do.Good write up.
I've never been to FKKs, but based off what I've read and seen, I would say it probably isn't someplace that one would want to go to monger frequently.
Simply because there's an entry fee (it's a considerable amount I believe?) to even get INTO the place.
Also from what I've heard, you can't exactly connect with the girls by getting their phone numbers and meeting up with them independently. I'm sure you can probably do something like that in HK, but HK has its own laundry list of problems so it's not a good spot either, in my opinion.
In terms of affordability, I'm actually surprised that FKKs would be cheaper per fuck compared to HK.
I would think that FKKs would be more expensive, with all the upselling and bullshit that they throw on top.
Apparently the only thing you get with your session is just basic dick in pussy sex. ANYTHING extra like a blowjob is upcharged.
But at the end of the day, the cost of travel makes it too impractical for an american to go to FKKs regularly.
I don't even think it's worth moving and living to Germany specifically to visit FKKs. There's no future there to recruit one of the girls for a consistent thing, as I mentioned before.
All in all, there are far better places.
If you're looking for fun and to just have sex, obviously mexico and Canada will always be best if you're in the US, simply because of distance.
One of my wingmen is really into smoking marijuana with the girls. One time he ended up for 4 girls in his room because they wanted to place to smoke. I was next door and this mofo did not call me!! This has never happened to me but he aggressively looks for girls that smoke. It can be a little challenging getting the weed to the room but he has never herd anything about it when checking out. I can tell you it smells when I walk by.
I have let a few girls smoke weed, it does seem to improve their performance.Yeah, never do anything relating to any drug while you are in mexico.
That is the first rule of being there.
I used to not like that about Tijuana. I wanted it to be more like nicer parts of Mexico. I've come around to appreciating it. You just have to appreciate it for what it is. Like you can watch trashy reality tv and enjoy it as long as you're not lamenting the fact it's not trying to win academy awards and it's just what it is. It's trash and it's enjoyable trash. That's Tijuana. It's dirty. The land zoning sucks so every street looks like a jigsaw puzzle. You have nice restaurants next to a guy with no legs and a sign asking for help. Prostitution up the street from revoluciand. Amazing tacos. Cheap beer. Corrupt cops. It's all just tossed into a blender and poured into the streets and it's disgusting and sad and beautiful.The best part is entering Tijuana from San Ysidro through the revolving doors. Whoever designed this area loaded it with the most chaos you can possibly bear. Vendor carts, thick smoke from taco carts, everyone shouting something, taxi drivers shouting taxi, taxi. Always a giant traffic jam and car horns. Now you know you're in Tijuana!
MongerHunger
02-21-25, 06:08
The best part is entering Tijuana from San Ysidro through the revolving doors. Whoever designed this area loaded it with the most chaos you can possibly bear. Vendor carts, thick smoke from taco carts, everyone shouting something, taxi drivers shouting taxi, taxi. Always a giant traffic jam and car horns. Now you know you're in Tijuana!Did you notice that one of those revolving doors was broken off the gate and sitting to the side?
It is the main reason to go if the FKK sauna club scene is your thing. After Brazil I find Germany to be my favorite place to monger......Senor Cane, have you tried Canada? It has the type of girls you like.
Senor Cane, have you tried Canada? It has the type of girls you like.I have not tried Canada because my research indicates that the top destinations in that country are heavily geared towards an escort scene versus the club scene that I much prefer. That said, a long time ago before I became a monger, I had a Canadian girlfriend from Thunder Bay, Ontario and she was the best in bed of any girlfriend I ever had. That was for many reasons, including deep throat BBBJs and anal sex LOL! If we had met at another time in another place she is the one girl I think I would have married. Checking out Montreal is on my bucket list, for the city itself as well as for any mongering opportunities available.
It is the main reason to go if the FKK sauna club scene is your thing. After Brazil I find Germany to be my favorite place to monger. I'm not particularly looking for the GFE as I have more of a preference for the PSE more often than not. Many times though I will find a girl where we click and it can turn more towards the GFE. I love anal sex with the white girls, and anal is quite readily on the menu with many girls at the FKKs. And I have the coin to spend freely at the FKKs to get what I want. So I don't care about Tijuana being cheaper. And it's also a dump! I much prefer the "big city sophistication" of a Sao Paulo to the "dirty wild west" of Tijuana (but will and have stepped on both sides of that line). I do like the Latinas too though, and after several days of fucking the European white girls I start longing for a little bit more choice in "colors". This is one of the big reasons why I have Brazil ahead of Germany. More diversity. Oh, is that a bad word now LOL! But I love them both Brazil and Germany! Last few times I was in Brazil it was absolutely Heaven on earth fucking blue-eyed blonde Brasileiras of German descent LOL! I'm heading to Brazil for a month soon. And later this year will spend a month "bumming" around Germany (pun intended). Well doggy! But at the end of the day, like someone else here said, every man should experience the FKK clubs of Germany at least once. I say the same thing about the termas of Rio and the clinicas and nightclubs of Sao Paulo. And then just stick to what you personally enjoy the most. Choose what makes you happy. But experience as much as possible when it comes to this hobby so that you can truly know what happiness as a monger looks like for you. Be happy!Where are the pale brunettes of any nationality? That's where I want to visit.
RikyMichaels7
02-21-25, 20:18
When I used to date the infamous La Diabla, the girl from Tropical who came close to killing me one night, we used to go to a bar close by La Coahuila called Bar Zacazonapan. It is a somewhat small bar kind of like down in a basement. Everybody in this bar smokes mota, and the police, who are well aware of its existence turn a blind eye. The first time we went, some locals invited us to sit with them and sample some of the mota. They subsequently left and gave us two joints as a parting gift. Fun atmosphere with a juke box that plays mostly American classics. If you order a beer they bring you a caguama (32 ounce beer). I'm sure the bar is still open.
When I used to date the infamous La Diabla, the girl from Tropical who came close to killing me one night, we used to go to a bar close by La Coahuila called Bar Zacazonapan. It is a somewhat small bar kind of like down in a basement. Everybody in this bar smokes mota, and the police, who are well aware of its existence turn a blind eye. The first time we went, some locals invited us to sit with them and sample some of the mota. They subsequently left and gave us two joints as a parting gift. Fun atmosphere with a juke box that plays mostly American classics. If you order a beer they bring you a caguama (32 ounce beer). I'm sure the bar is still open.They closed that location LONG ago.
They moved to Calle 7 west of Madero. Much larger venue. Same jukebox but now it's too weak to provide good sound to the substantially larger space. Large dark room to the side for smoking. Bathrooms aren't a scary as the old location. They only sell caguamas.
Thinking of visiting in a week or two. Have there been any changes to the club atmosphere / border crossings after the recent US-Mexico political drama? Is everything the same at the crossings?I went this week and there were differences in crossing on both sides. The line to get in was longer as Mexican border officials were filling out VISAs for everybody. Often they just check passports and wave you through, but the process of filling out the form, even though they did it for me, created a line that took 15-20 minutes to get through. It wasn't a huge deal but it's always annoying to wait in line when you didn't have to before.
Entering the US at around 11 AM on Wednesday, as others have mentioned, the line is gone. Not shorter; completely gone. I have SENTRI so crossing has always been quick for me, but if you don't have it, there's zero difference in wait for regular vs. SENTRI. I've never seen it like that ever.
While in Tijuana, it seemed the same. Taxis were the same. The prices everywhere are the same so far. I did notice that the street girls in the alley were almost all gone. I don't know what that was about. I'm not into them, so it didn't make a difference to me, but there were virtually no options at day or night in the alley.
HK was the same as ever. Lots of chicas at night. I go during the week so it's never as packed as weekends, but there were a decent amount of American dudes. It doesn't seem that any regulars have been deterred by political strife so far. Some girls seem a little more aggressive, perhaps because of economics, but it's not too different from before. There's always some sharks.
Speaking of which, had my first HK drama this time. I normally hook up with a chica by texting her beforehand. I didn't this time and one of her friends saw me, recognized me, and texted her like I was cheating on her LOL. The chica texted me passive aggressively asking if it was true I was there LOL. After some back and forth, I found out she doesn't even work in HK anymore so she just texted me to whine LOL. I learned my lesson on starting "relationships" with them (though to be fair, she was the first chica I met when I started going to HK in 2017 I didn't know any better back then).
All in all, it was the same experience I've had many other times. I like HK for scoping out some of the most beautiful women I've ever seen wearing next to nothing so I had a good time and thankfully nothing seemed to different. HK might be immune to political winds. I even went to other parts of Tijuana for dinner during the early evening and didn't have any bad or unsafe experiences.
I might go back in May before my VIP card expires. Hopefully no wars, trade or otherwise LOL, break out before then.
When I used to date the infamous La Diabla, the girl from Tropical who came close to killing me one night, we used to go to a bar close by La Coahuila called Bar Zacazonapan. It is a somewhat small bar kind of like down in a basement. Everybody in this bar smokes mota, and the police, who are well aware of its existence turn a blind eye. The first time we went, some locals invited us to sit with them and sample some of the mota. They subsequently left and gave us two joints as a parting gift. Fun atmosphere with a juke box that plays mostly American classics. If you order a beer they bring you a caguama (32 ounce beer). I'm sure the bar is still open.If you go to the zona long enough you will always find your own "La Diabla" mine went by the name of Sade, Alexia, Leona, Lady, Valentina, sheesh they all were La Diabla!
Baxter Slade
02-22-25, 04:09
When I used to date the infamous La Diabla, the girl from Tropical who came close to killing me one night, we used to go to a bar close by La Coahuila called Bar Zacazonapan. It is a somewhat small bar kind of like down in a basement. Everybody in this bar smokes mota, and the police, who are well aware of its existence turn a blind eye. The first time we went, some locals invited us to sit with them and sample some of the mota. They subsequently left and gave us two joints as a parting gift. Fun atmosphere with a juke box that plays mostly American classics. If you order a beer they bring you a caguama (32 ounce beer). I'm sure the bar is still open.No longer in that basement. That place did have a really great atmosphere. Now is located on 7th close to madero st. But nothing loke the old days.
Baxter Slade
02-22-25, 04:30
One of my wingmen is really into smoking marijuana with the girls. One time he ended up for 4 girls in his room because they wanted to place to smoke. I was next door and this mofo did not call me!! This has never happened to me but he aggressively looks for girls that smoke. It can be a little challenging getting the weed to the room but he has never herd anything about it when checking out. I can tell you it smells when I walk by.
I have let a few girls smoke weed, it does seem to improve their performance.Not sure you are my wingman or maybe its a common thing. But pretty much the same thing happened to me. 4 girls showed up as I was checking in. They asked if they could smoke in my room. I asked if they share, they said yes. Not much happened I can barely handle one girl. I did ask for a picture, thought 4 scantly clad girls in my bed would be a nice souvenir. The funny part was after they filed out of the room. The towel boys in the hallway started slapping me 5 like I was the man.
RikyMichaels7
02-22-25, 04:30
If you go to the zona long enough you will always find your own "La Diabla" mine went by the name of Sade, Alexia, Leona, Lady, Valentina, sheesh they all were La Diabla!Yes, there are definitely plenty of these types. In the case of La Diabla, she was demonically possessed. True story. Long story.
RikyMichaels7
02-22-25, 04:31
They closed that location LONG ago.
They moved to Calle 7 west of Madero. Much larger venue. Same jukebox but now it's too weak to provide good sound to the substantially larger space. Large dark room to the side for smoking. Bathrooms aren't a scary as the old location. They only sell caguamas.Very interesting. Thanks for the update.
Yes, there are definitely plenty of these types. In the case of La Diabla, she was demonically possessed. True story. Long story.We were cozying up with each other several years ago in BT, we even took a snapshots together, I still have the pics. I sensed the wildness and opted to shut it it down. I am much into the fresher ones before they get spoiled so didn't work out for me, even her nickname is telling. She actually is a sociable person though.
RikyMichaels7
02-22-25, 22:55
We were cozying up with each other several years ago in BT, we even took a snapshots together, I still have the pics. I sensed the wildness and opted to shut it it down. I am much into the fresher ones before they get spoiled so didn't work out for me, even her nickname is telling. She actually is a sociable person though.She was very sociable and a lot of fun until her bad demon took over, at which point all Hell broke loose, and I mean Hell. She got her nickname (La Diabla) from the waiters in Las Chaveles one night based on her actions. She got mad at me that night for no reason and took my prescription glasses off and stomped on them, followed by a nail gouging to my face. The waiters escorted her out of the bar and the police told her to get in a taxi and leave. Well, 10 minutes later she snuck in from the back entrance. A working girl had come over to give me a kleenex to wipe my face. Diabla saw this and punched the girl in the face. The police were summoned and told her she was banned from the bar and would be taken to jail if she ever returned. Hence the nickname.
AmericanPi
02-23-25, 18:33
She was very sociable and a lot of fun until her bad demon took over, at which point all Hell broke loose, and I mean Hell. She got her nickname (La Diabla) from the waiters in Las Chaveles one night based on her actions. She got mad at me that night for no reason and took my prescription glasses off and stomped on them, followed by a nail gouging to my face. The waiters escorted her out of the bar and the police told her to get in a taxi and leave. Well, 10 minutes later she snuck in from the back entrance. A working girl had come over to give me a kleenex to wipe my face. Diabla saw this and punched the girl in the face. The police were summoned and told her she was banned from the bar and would be taken to jail if she ever returned. Hence the nickname.What the fuck.
Man that's the kind of thing that would give me the heebie-jeebies about returning for like a year. That's really ant****ial violent behavior. The kind where you really want to inflict pain on someone. It's ok because she's a woman and it's physically harder to hurt a man. But damn that's crazy town.
Theo TheMonger
02-24-25, 01:40
I used to not like that about Tijuana. I wanted it to be more like nicer parts of Mexico. I've come around to appreciating it. You just have to appreciate it for what it is. Like you can watch trashy reality tv and enjoy it as long as you're not lamenting the fact it's not trying to win academy awards and it's just what it is. It's trash and it's enjoyable trash. That's Tijuana. It's dirty. The land zoning sucks so every street looks like a jigsaw puzzle. You have nice restaurants next to a guy with no legs and a sign asking for help. Prostitution up the street from revoluciand. Amazing tacos. Cheap beer. Corrupt cops. It's all just tossed into a blender and poured into the streets and it's disgusting and sad and beautiful.Wow. Very well said. First person account in the form of a feee form poem.
This also fits my experience and observations there as well.
The hardest part is the blatant poverty spewing out. Be respectful, mind your P.S. And Qs, and you'll be fine. But the really hard up people on the streets -- and their pet dogs — are a hard sight to stomach.
She was very sociable and a lot of fun until her bad demon took over, at which point all Hell broke loose, and I mean Hell. She got her nickname (La Diabla) from the waiters in Las Chaveles one night based on her actions. She got mad at me that night for no reason and took my prescription glasses off and stomped on them, followed by a nail gouging to my face. The waiters escorted her out of the bar and the police told her to get in a taxi and leave. Well, 10 minutes later she snuck in from the back entrance. A working girl had come over to give me a kleenex to wipe my face. Diabla saw this and punched the girl in the face. The police were summoned and told her she was banned from the bar and would be taken to jail if she ever returned. Hence the nickname.Whew hahaha! I dodged a bullet. In any case I am not a type that forms a relationship, I don't even have regulars. What I call regulars are those I have seen more than 3 times and never lasts than 10 session with very few. I tend to drift away. Dang! The story you tell pictures a really out of control woman.
Had the opportunity to make a very late night visit to HK. Arrived about 2 am and was surprised that it still had a good size crowd with many female options. Finally picked a fun girl to drink with who didn't waste anytime getting me the urge to go upstairs. She might have been the first girl that I can remember starting the session of with a nice rim job and soon after some BBBJ. I returned the favor to her somewhat and at some point realized she had started or was on her period. Not a first for me so I continued but was surprised she still seemed to want me to do her without a condom.
Went back down stairs to continue drinking till my energy had faded and needed to sleep.
One thing I noticed that hasn't been mentioned here that I recall is that in the Miami area everyone was openly smoking cigarettes. Not sure how long this has been going on since Nothing hasn't posted his normal weekly trip reports.
Also I paid in pesos and is a good way to save some bucks if you want. I got almost 20 to 1 and HK is at 18 to 1. Now the weird thing is that technically HK won't exchange pesos to dollars. I guess they know that people would take advantage of that.
Also many are concerned about being pulled over even in a taxi but I used the HK shuttle for the first time and was waived thru by police and not stopped coming or going. Also noticed no difference in the attitude of anyone towards Americans. I even laughed when driving across the border I saw a Trump head being sold like the many other plaster trinkets they sell. One vendor even had an American flag on his cart.
Had the opportunity to make a very late night visit to HK. Arrived about 2 am and was surprised that it still had a good size crowd with many female options. Finally picked a fun girl to drink with who didn't waste anytime getting me the urge to go upstairs. She might have been the first girl that I can remember starting the session of with a nice rim job and soon after some BBBJ. I returned the favor to her somewhat and at some point realized she had started or was on her period. Not a first for me so I continued but was surprised she still seemed to want me to do her without a condom.
Went back down stairs to continue drinking till my energy had faded and needed to sleep.
One thing I noticed that hasn't been mentioned here that I recall is that in the Miami area everyone was openly smoking cigarettes. Not sure how long this has been going on since Nothing hasn't posted his normal weekly trip reports.
Also I paid in pesos and is a good way to save some bucks if you want. I got almost 20 to 1 and HK is at 18 to 1. Now the weird thing is that technically HK won't exchange pesos to dollars. I guess they know that people would take advantage of that.
Also many are concerned about being pulled over even in a taxi but I used the HK shuttle for the first time and was waived thru by police and not stopped coming or going. Also noticed no difference in the attitude of anyone towards Americans. I even laughed when driving across the border I saw a Trump head being sold like the many other plaster trinkets they sell. One vendor even had an American flag on his cart.They have been allowing smoking in Miami since around the beginning of the year. I passed by HK around 1 am or so on Sunday night after seeing a girl at Chicago. Chica selection was ok. There was a girl dancing on one of the side stages who I liked a lot. She was slim with nice little curves proportionate to her frame. Brunette, probably mid 20's. Gave her a tip and took a mental picture of her in case I saw her around later. Out of curiosity I asked how much to go arriba and she quoted 120. Could probably get her down to 100, but 120 is acceptable if the service is good IMO. Took a seat on the second floor and was eventually approached by an aggressive curvy girl. She was about a seven out of ten and guided my hands underneath her clothes to feel her bare tits and was kissing me all over. A mesero took notice and asked if he should bring the lady a drink. Sure, this is worth the $11 I guess, I thought to myself. She then took my hand and basically shoved it inside of herself to feel how wet she was. Damn, I wasn't really looking to do another arriba tonight but this girl was making it hard, literally. Taking note, she then reached in my pants and started stroking me. She then starts the heavy upsell to go arriba. I told her maybe some other time since I was about to head out. She then got a little more aggressive, not wanting to let me go. She started feeling a little too good to be true so I asked if she would blow me without a rubber which caught her a little off guard and she said no. She said she likes to have fun, but with protection. I told her it was fine and that I didn't really like to go arriba unless I had my own room anyway because I refuse to pay $40ST fee. She said she understood and maybe we can hook up some other time. She got up and left when she was done with her drink.
I saw a girl I know dancing on stage near the back and figured I would say Hi whenever she was done. During this time the brunette I had seen earlier walked by me so I invited her to sit down for a drink. I told her I wasn't sticking around much longer but just wanted to introduce myself and hopefully get her number to hook up some other time. She said she was from Chihuahua and only been working a few months. I don't recall seeing her around and she said she usually comes in very late. She kept commenting on other girls bodies so I asked if she was bisexual and she said yes. I then started showing her pictures of other chicas I know in case she wanted to have a threesome with them some day and she said sure and told me which ones she liked best. Will definitely reach out to her on a future visit.
Eventually the girl I was waiting to get off stage finished up and she spotted me. She came over to have a couple drinks and I told her I just wanted to say Hi before I left. She said she was glad I did and hung around for about a half hour to talk and fool around a little bit. Took off back home after that and called it a night.
AmericanPi
02-25-25, 17:29
This might be one of the only groups online that can understand this sentiment.
I Heard something interesting the other day. Bad things happened to people and they always ask why me? But nobody ever says I was born in a time of peace, with antibiotics, prosperity that even ancient rulers would envy, with conveniences the make life easy, why me? We take those things for granted.
And I often look at people in Europe and say how nice it must be to get on a euro rail and be in a different country in a matter of hours. How nice it must be to live on the East Coast and fly so easily to other parts of the world. Why are we so isolated here? Why is it so much harder to have those experiences.
But you know what. As a southern Californian I can drive to Tijuana in the morning. I can drink beer and have 5 star meals for under 50 bucks. I can buy cheap viagra and bang 3 girls in a day and pay them each less than I pay for groceries. I can stay in a 4 star hotel for 100 bucks. I can waltz across the border with global entry. I can be home a few hours later and still have a full day.
That's worth being thankful for. I need to appreciate the gift that is living so close to a cheap foreign country. Even if it gets old, most of the US can't do this.
They have been allowing smoking in Miami since around the beginning of the year.Yeah I figured it didn't just happen I was remembering a previous poster bringing up smoking in the room so it surprised me that nobody said HK had an area to smoke like CC. When I asked my waiter about it he said they use to have another part of the club they let people smoke in but at some point just started allowing it in Miami.
I don't recall seeing any girls ordering wine same as my last visit, the girl I drank with didn't even bring it up just ordered beer.
She might have been the first girl that I can remember starting the session of with a nice rim job and soon after some BBBJ. I returned the favor to her somewhat and at some point realized she had started or was on her period.--Bruh. Remind me not to read these posts while eating.
This might be one of the only groups online that can understand this sentiment.
I Heard something interesting the other day. Bad things happened to people and they always ask why me? But nobody ever says I was born in a time of peace, with antibiotics, prosperity that even ancient rulers would envy, with conveniences the make life easy, why me? We take those things for granted.
And I often look at people in Europe and say how nice it must be to get on a euro rail and be in a different country in a matter of hours. How nice it must be to live on the East Coast and fly so easily to other parts of the world. Why are we so isolated here? Why is it so much harder to have those experiences.
But you know what. As a southern Californian I can drive to Tijuana in the morning. I can drink beer and have 5 star meals for under 50 bucks. I can buy cheap viagra and bang 3 girls in a day and pay them each less than I pay for groceries. I can stay in a 4 star hotel for 100 bucks. I can waltz across the border with global entry. I can be home a few hours later and still have a full day.
That's worth being thankful for. I need to appreciate the gift that is living so close to a cheap foreign country. Even if it gets old, most of the US can't do this.If you are over 55 add to the fact that you are in a time where you can swallow a pill and your Mboro gets as rock hard as you were in your teens. Just remember you are the first generation in all human history who can bang women with ease at your age. 10 years ago this was hard because the pills were too darn expensive. 20 years ago you had to be a millionaire to get those pills. 30 years ago there was no such a thing over 55 banging women left and right unless one was awarded special rare genes.
Another note, Tijuana is not as cheap as you put it. It has gotten expensive.
AmericanPi
02-26-25, 16:42
Another note, Tijuana is not as cheap as you put it. It has gotten expensive.Really? I eat at really nice restaurants (oryx, justina, crema why verde) and the bill for 2 always comes out to less than 100 dollars US. I stay at nice hotels like grand and Pueblo amigo and it's always like 100 bucks a night. I order beers and they are like 4 dollars. Ubers reliably comes out to about 3-4 dollars per trip.
These prices are less than half what you'the pay a few miles north.
Really? I eat at really nice restaurants (oryx, justina, crema why verde) and the bill for 2 always comes out to less than 100 dollars US. I stay at nice hotels like grand and Pueblo amigo and it's always like 100 bucks a night. I order beers and they are like 4 dollars. Ubers reliably comes out to about 3-4 dollars per trip.
These prices are less than half what you'the pay a few miles north.Compare Mexico to other comparable economies where you can go and spend time. If you take a 2 weeks vacation Tijuana will break the bank specially compared to other southern destinations. When I go to Tijuana once every month, each time for 5 days, I spend about $1000. That is $12,000 per year.
AmericanPi
02-27-25, 03:37
Compare Mexico to other comparable economies where you can go and spend time. If you take a 2 weeks vacation Tijuana will break the bank specially compared to other southern destinations. When I go to Tijuana once every month, each time for 5 days, I spend about $1000. That is $12,000 per year.I think we are just watching this movie from different angles and seeing different stories.
When you say you go to Tijuana for five days and spend $1000. I'm thinking: I know! That's how cheap it is! 200 bucks a day!
Shit I go out to dinner and drinks with friends in Los Angeles and in out 150 dollars. No hotel, no Ubers, no girls, nothing. Just the dinner. If you can live well while traveling for 200 bucks a day that's way better than you're getting in California.
No doubt there are cheaper places in the world. I've been to some. I'm just saying, this is in our backyard. And it's cheap. Way cheaper than just a few miles north by more than half.
Rainman306
02-27-25, 04:31
Compare Mexico to other comparable economies where you can go and spend time. If you take a 2 weeks vacation Tijuana will break the bank specially compared to other southern destinations. When I go to Tijuana once every month, each time for 5 days, I spend about $1000. That is $12,000 per year.I'm going to Tijuana in April for 4 days / nights and hoping I can get away with only spending $1,000 plus I still have pesos from a trip last year.
If you bang just 1 bar chick a day that's still about $480 or so. Then you'll be buying a VIP card, the hotel & deposit. Drinks + tipping.
I just checked their gallery but most of them are silicone tits like Jeff' be. S GF. Maybe they think all the rich older men like silicone tits?? I'm from SF bay area, its all so fucking suck here ever since Onlyfans give ordinary girls to make millions for doing nothing nowadays. Men's quality of life just went straight to the toilet since 2016. I still remember it was a such a great time last recession. I did so many beautiful girls back then. Now, I can only go to eastern Europe to get that treatment. All I wanted is a serious recession or depression and all men should petition to have Onlyfans or similar websites to be removed permanently. We are struggling real hard here. I went to HK 1 or 2 times last few years, it changed a lot too. Girls quality are not that good and service quality is bad too. Most of them are silicone tits but I'm not Jeff be.
And the club is so packed now too. So many guys know that they don't get shitz even paying price in LA so they thought Tijuana maybe like the old days cheap and good quality but it maybe the same too now. The last good time I could get a tall big natural tits blonde in HK club was 2016 or 2017 but that was it. 2016 was an very extremely important year, everything went to toilet from that year on. The pandemic further destroy men's life and middle classes.
I'm going to Tijuana in April for 4 days / nights and hoping I can get away with only spending $1,000 plus I still have pesos from a trip last year.
If you bang just 1 bar chick a day that's still about $480 or so. Then you'll be buying a VIP card, the hotel & deposit. Drinks + tipping.If you don't spend too much on the expensive booze, You can have a full swing of fun time with 1K, easy. After the arriba money and room rent, my next main expense is tips for the girls I talk to in the clubs.
Really? I eat at really nice restaurants (oryx, justina, crema why verde) and the bill for 2 always comes out to less than 100 dollars US. I stay at nice hotels like grand and Pueblo amigo and it's always like 100 bucks a night. I order beers and they are like 4 dollars. Ubers reliably comes out to about 3-4 dollars per trip.
These prices are less than half what you'the pay a few miles north.All true. However, Tijuana has become quite a bit more expensive in relation to their economy and the average earnings of the locals. Dinner for two at a nice joint might only be around $100, including wine, but that's still a LOT of money in Tijuana. And it's worse than it was just a few years ago. Shoot, even the tacos are running about $2 each now. $100/ night for a hotel is quite pricey compared to a few years ago, too. I note that Grand used to be at the upper end of the pricing structure. But it seems everybody else has raised their prices, as a percentage, more than has Grand. As you said, about $100/ night is now the average, and that's quite a bit higher than 3 or 4 years ago.
So, Tijuana is still cheaper than CA, but that's a really low bar. Prices in Tijuana have gone up considerably.
If you want a place with excellent food, nice hotels, and cheap prices, Vietnam is a very good choice. Just don't think about the long-ass flight. LOL.
AmericanPi
02-28-25, 15:41
All true. However, Tijuana has become quite a bit more expensive in relation to their economy and the average earnings of the locals. Dinner for two at a nice joint might only be around $100, including wine, but that's still a LOT of money in Tijuana. And it's worse than it was just a few years ago. Shoot, even the tacos are running about $2 each now. $100/ night for a hotel is quite pricey compared to a few years ago, too. I note that Grand used to be at the upper end of the pricing structure. But it seems everybody else has raised their prices, as a percentage, more than has Grand. As you said, about $100/ night is now the average, and that's quite a bit higher than 3 or 4 years ago.
So, Tijuana is still cheaper than CA, but that's a really low bar. Prices in Tijuana have gone up considerably.
If you want a place with excellent food, nice hotels, and cheap prices, Vietnam is a very good choice. Just don't think about the long-ass flight. LOL.I mean that's all fair but the purchasing power parity for Mexican nationals is irrelevant to me. I'm converting from US dollars. That it's expensive for a Mexican is irrelevant to me. I can still get a 5 star dinner with all the trimmings in Tijuana for under 75 bucks a head and that's a meal that would easily be 200 dollars in LA.
I'd love to go to Vietnam but my point here was to appreciate that we have this amazing resource just driving distance from those of us in CA. If they closed the border tomorrow or started requiring advance visas in response to trump I'd honestly feel a genuine sense of loss. I'm just acknowledging this. That it's a gift to have relatively cheap luxury and poontang within such a close drive it can be done on the regular.
The glass is definitely half full.
I mean that's all fair but the purchasing power parity for Mexican nationals is irrelevant to me. I'm converting from US dollars. That it's expensive for a Mexican is irrelevant to me. I can still get a 5 star dinner with all the trimmings in Tijuana for under 75 bucks a head and that's a meal that would easily be 200 dollars in LA.
Man, you guys are high rollers. I doubt I've ever spent much more than $50-$60 (for myself) at a restaurant. Then again I don't drink expensive wines and all that kind of stuff. You can go to Taylor's Steak House and get a decent meal for 30/40 bucks. At $200+ it's not about the food anymore. It just about being seen with the in-crowd. I'm not rolling in dough so I'd rather save my money for women and travel. McDonalds is underrated.
AmericanPi
03-01-25, 16:55
Man, you guys are high rollers. I doubt I've ever spent much more than $50-$60 (for myself) at a restaurant. Then again I don't drink expensive wines and all that kind of stuff. You can go to Taylor's Steak House and get a decent meal for 30/40 bucks. At $200+ it's not about the food anymore. It just about being seen with the in-crowd. I'm not rolling in dough so I'd rather save my money for women and travel. McDonalds is underrated.That's fair and you have to prioritize your spending, and I'm glad you're good with your prioritization. Good man.
It's not really true that at 200+ it's not about the food. 200 is not much to spend in LA for a good dinner. It's pretty middle of the pack. If you drink. A place that serves a 60 dollar plate (a nice restaurant but not a blowout dinner) will typically have a 20 dollar appetizer. Add on a bottle of wine you split with a friend at 60 each. Add on reasonable tip and tax. And that's 200. It's easy to get there without dessert or coffee.
There are places in Tijuana that are easily comparable to those restaurants. Same decor same quality food same service level. But you're out the door for 75 bucks a head. I know this is not everyone's priority but if you're a food fan like I am, Tijuana becomes a dream. Because you get a 4-5 star hotel, amazing meals, sex with a beautiful girl, and you skip back across the border maybe 300 bucks lighter. For a lot of of people that's an incredible bargain. Again, priorities.
(My financial situation is indeed very fortunate. But I love love love a good deal. Tijuana does it for me every time).
I think we are just watching this movie from different angles and seeing different stories.
When you say you go to Tijuana for five days and spend $1000. I'm thinking: I know! That's how cheap it is! 200 bucks a day!
Shit I go out to dinner and drinks with friends in Los Angeles and in out 150 dollars. No hotel, no Ubers, no girls, nothing. Just the dinner. If you can live well while traveling for 200 bucks a day that's way better than you're getting in California.
No doubt there are cheaper places in the world. I've been to some. I'm just saying, this is in our backyard. And it's cheap. Way cheaper than just a few miles north by more than half.Here is a quick search I got online here. https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/colombia/medellin.
How much does it cost to travel to Medellin?
You should plan to spend around $28 (CO $114,023) per day on your vacation in Medellin. This is the average daily price based on the expenses of other visitors.
Past travelers have spent, on average for one day:
$16 (CO $63,462) on meals.
$3. 87 (CO $15,801) on local transportation.
$8. 89 (CO $36,272) on hotels.
Add to $25 for a casa girl per day and you get about, total expense $60/ day including women. That is $300/5 days. I am not making this up. Check online. You can argue the plane ticket but that is beyond this discussion.
Compare $60/ day vs $200/ day- or- $300/5 days vs $1000/5 days.
This is my point. Compare Tijuana to other destinations and you find Tijuana being very expensive. The average joe who mongers in the Tijuana have not seen a salary increase in years where as living expenses have gone way up, including those services he spend for in Tijuana.
I am just saying, Tijuana has gotten expensive but I still am willing to spend time there although when I go I curb my expenses as much as I can. I don't tip as much, I don't drink in the clubs as much, I am happy if I see 2 girls instead of 4 or so I used to take up. The tourist and entertainment industry is shooting itself in the foot thinking raising prices get them more income, It may not.
AmericanPi
03-01-25, 21:05
Here is a quick search I got online here. https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/colombia/medellin.
How much does it cost to travel to Medellin?
You should plan to spend around $28 (CO $114,023) per day on your vacation in Medellin. This is the average daily price based on the expenses of other visitors.
Past travelers have spent, on average for one day:
$16 (CO $63,462) on meals.
$3. 87 (CO $15,801) on local transportation.
$8. 89 (CO $36,272) on hotels.
Add to $25 for a casa girl per day and you get about, total expense $60/ day including women. That is $300/5 days. I am not making this up. Check online. You can argue the plane ticket but that is beyond this discussion.
Compare $60/ day vs $200/ day- or- $300/5 days vs $1000/5 days.
This is my point. Compare Tijuana to other destinations and you find Tijuana being very expensive. The average joe who mongers in the Tijuana have not seen a salary increase in years where as living expenses have gone way up, including those services he spend for in Tijuana.
I am just saying, Tijuana has gotten expensive but I still am willing to spend time there although when I go I curb my expenses as much as I can. I don't tip as much, I don't drink in the clubs as much, I am happy if I see 2 girls instead of 4 or so I used to take up. The tourist and entertainment industry is shooting itself in the foot thinking raising prices get them more income, It may not.Totally. There are cheaper places in the world. And many of them are much much better than Tijuana.
But that's not opposite the point I'm making. I'm not saying Tijuana #1 rah rah. I'm saying its much cheaper than California, and we are blessed to have it in our backyard (for those of us who live in Southern California).
Obviously Medellin etc are better. But for us here, we have to fly to get there and all of the sudden spending 5 dollars on a meal becomes a much more expensive proposition than spending 50 dollars in Tijuana.
Here is a quick search I got online here. https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/colombia/medellin.
How much does it cost to travel to Medellin?
You should plan to spend around $28 (CO $114,023) per day on your vacation in Medellin. This is the average daily price based on the expenses of other visitors.
Past travelers have spent, on average for one day:
$16 (CO $63,462) on meals.
$3. 87 (CO $15,801) on local transportation.
$8. 89 (CO $36,272) on hotels.
Add to $25 for a casa girl per day and you get about, total expense $60/ day including women. That is $300/5 days. I am not making this up. Check online. You can argue the plane ticket but that is beyond this discussion.
Compare $60/ day vs $200/ day- or- $300/5 days vs $1000/5 days.
This is my point. Compare Tijuana to other destinations and you find Tijuana being very expensive.The plane ticket makes this even for Southern California guys.
AmorPorFavor
03-02-25, 03:24
Here is a quick search I got online here. https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/colombia/medellin.
How much does it cost to travel to Medellin?
You should plan to spend around $28 (CO $114,023) per day on your vacation in Medellin. This is the average daily price based on the expenses of other visitors.
Past travelers have spent, on average for one day:
$16 (CO $63,462) on meals.
$3. 87 (CO $15,801) on local transportation.
$8. 89 (CO $36,272) on hotels.
Add to $25 for a casa girl per day and you get about, total expense $60/ day including women. That is $300/5 days. I am not making this up. Check online. You can argue the plane ticket but that is beyond this discussion.
Compare $60/ day vs $200/ day- or- $300/5 days vs $1000/5 days.
This is my point. Compare Tijuana to other destinations and you find Tijuana being very expensive. The average joe who mongers in the Tijuana have not seen a salary increase in years where as living expenses have gone way up, including those services he spend for in Tijuana.
I am just saying, Tijuana has gotten expensive but I still am willing to spend time there although when I go I curb my expenses as much as I can. I don't tip as much, I don't drink in the clubs as much, I am happy if I see 2 girls instead of 4 or so I used to take up. The tourist and entertainment industry is shooting itself in the foot thinking raising prices get them more income, It may not.I live 25 minutes from the border. I drive to Tijuana 3-4 days a months and yeah its a lot more expensive than it used to be. Have been doing it for decades. I have been to Medellin 11 times in the last 4 years. Those numbers for MDE are way off. Even a broke ass lowlife shitty vaca to MDE is going to cost a lot more and no way you get a hotel, even the worse dogshit place, for $8. 89. Not even close. You might be able to eat for $16/ day if you like really crappy food on your vacation. You might get laid for $25 but she will be butt ugly and in a gross POS room.
MongerHunger
03-02-25, 04:01
I'm in Tijuana now and it looks like they are getting ready for you High Rollers to buy these bottles tonight. Anybody ever buy these over priced bottles at Hong Kong Club?
I'm in Tijuana now and it looks like they are getting ready for you High Rollers to buy these bottles tonight. Anybody ever buy these over priced bottles at Hong Kong Club?I did once. Because the waiter tricked me. I told him I only buy beers for the girls or a drink that is the normal price. The ******* brings the chica a wine bottle then tells me it is 35 dlls. It is actually 30 but still a rip off.
That's fair and you have to prioritize your spending, and I'm glad you're good with your prioritization. Good man.
It's not really true that at 200+ it's not about the food. 200 is not much to spend in LA for a good dinner. It's pretty middle of the pack. If you drink. A place that serves a 60 dollar plate (a nice restaurant but not a blowout dinner) will typically have a 20 dollar appetizer. Add on a bottle of wine you split with a friend at 60 each. Add on reasonable tip and tax. And that's 200. It's easy to get there without dessert or coffee.
There are places in Tijuana that are easily comparable to those restaurants. Same decor same quality food same service level. But you're out the door for 75 bucks a head. I know this is not everyone's priority but if you're a food fan like I am, Tijuana becomes a dream. Because you get a 4-5 star hotel, amazing meals, sex with a beautiful girl, and you skip back across the border maybe 300 bucks lighter. For a lot of of people that's an incredible bargain. Again, priorities.
(My financial situation is indeed very fortunate. But I love love love a good deal. Tijuana does it for me every time).Yeah, It's really with the alcohol that we're talking $200+. That I can understand. I'm just not a big social drinker like that.
I have been to Medellin 11 times in the last 4 years. Those numbers for MDE are way off. Even a broke ass lowlife shitty vaca to MDE is going to cost a lot more and no way you get a hotel, even the worse dogshit place, for $8. 89. Not even close. You might be able to eat for $16/ day if you like really crappy food on your vacation. You might get laid for $25 but she will be butt ugly and in a gross POS room.You are correct. I do not know MDE, I went by what I saw in the website I linked. The same website I linked for you has another page where it has an interesting chart about Hotel prices. In that chart the average cost is about $35 per day. Although they go as low as $8 and as high as $70. Here is the link. https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/hotels/colombia/medellin-3674962.
In Tijuana, I'd say the average price is about $70 per night and you can go as high as $300 per night in some of the higher standard hotels.
As for women, a guy here in ISG in the Colombia MDE section posted this about a casa. "Dulce Compania. Still open. 70 K 30 min. 5 K cover. 5 girls. " That is about $20.
I can find the same much cheaper average prices in Brazil, Central America etc.
We agree on one thing, Tijuana is expensive. Because it is close, TJ sucks up all the visitor traffic that would have been bound for SA instead. If there was a direct flight from Cali to Colombia or other destinations, with the same cost, lots of people would have ended up there. Right now the flight down there is a pain in the neck.
AmorPorFavor
03-02-25, 18:01
You are correct. I do not know MDE, I went by what I saw in the website I linked. The same website I linked for you has another page where it has an interesting chart about Hotel prices. In that chart the average cost is about $35 per day. Although they go as low as $8 and as high as $70. Here is the link. https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/hotels/colombia/medellin-3674962.
In Tijuana, I'd say the average price is about $70 per night and you can go as high as $300 per night in some of the higher standard hotels.
As for women, a guy here in ISG in the Colombia MDE section posted this about a casa. "Dulce Compania. Still open. 70 K 30 min. 5 K cover. 5 girls. " That is about $20.
I can find the same much cheaper average prices in Brazil, Central America etc.
We agree on one thing, Tijuana is expensive. Because it is close, TJ sucks up all the visitor traffic that would have been bound for SA instead. If there was a direct flight from Cali to Colombia or other destinations, with the same cost, lots of people would have ended up there. Right now the flight down there is a pain in the neck.Yes I knew would come back and argue about it. That site of yours is dated. Go on any of the travel sites and search for lowest prices. You could get something for around $30 and it would be disgusting. So would your $20 puta for 20 minutes in a dump. You could take 2 or 3 bus or metro rides a day for $4 but I like Ubers, much safer. I guess if you are a lowlife you could do that but then how to you find all the money to get there and back?
Yes I knew would come back and argue about it. That site of yours is dated. Go on any of the travel sites and search for lowest prices. You could get something for around $30 and it would be disgusting. So would your $20 puta for 20 minutes in a dump. You could take 2 or 3 bus or metro rides a day for $4 but I like Ubers, much safer. I guess if you are a lowlife you could do that but then how to you find all the money to get there and back?
I was not arguing at all. Are you cool or are you throwing a temper tantrum for no reason. I cannot tell from the tone of your text. Hopefully you are chill and worth to talk to.
The site I linked is recent. The quote I put from here is recent, like from last December. You could be right, I could be wrong, or vice versa. We are learning from each other, hopefully.
TheShyster
03-03-25, 03:16
All true. However, Tijuana has become quite a bit more expensive in relation to their economy and the average earnings of the locals. Dinner for two at a nice joint might only be around $100, including wine, but that's still a LOT of money in Tijuana. And it's worse than it was just a few years ago. Shoot, even the tacos are running about $2 each now. $100/ night for a hotel is quite pricey compared to a few years ago, too. I note that Grand used to be at the upper end of the pricing structure. But it seems everybody else has raised their prices, as a percentage, more than has Grand. As you said, about $100/ night is now the average, and that's quite a bit higher than 3 or 4 years ago.
So, Tijuana is still cheaper than CA, but that's a really low bar. Prices in Tijuana have gone up considerably.
If you want a place with excellent food, nice hotels, and cheap prices, Vietnam is a very good choice. Just don't think about the long-ass flight. LOL.How much do girls and beers and short time hotels cost in vietnam?
AmorPorFavor
03-03-25, 03:42
I was not arguing at all. Are you cool or are you throwing a temper tantrum for no reason. I cannot tell from the tone of your text. Hopefully you are chill and worth to talk to.
The site I linked is recent. The quote I put from here is recent, like from last December. You could be right, I could be wrong, or vice versa. We are learning from each other, hopefully.OK real talk. Yes Medellin is cheaper than Tijuana but not like you think. I would say around 20% overall at most. It is also a lot more dangerous, especially if you don't know how to operate. And you are not going to get a hotel room for $8. 89. In Tijuana you can find a cheap hotel room and do street putas but its not as nice as staying in Cascadas or Rizo and doing hot HK girls. Not even close.
Trying to figure out when the full Miami area is open. Is it Thursday through Saturday or is it also open Sundays?
DonCarlos1234
03-04-25, 22:09
OK real talk. Yes Medellin is cheaper than Tijuana but not like you think. I would say around 20% overall at most. It is also a lot more dangerous, especially if you don't know how to operate. And you are not going to get a hotel room for $8. 89. In Tijuana you can find a cheap hotel room and do street putas but its not as nice as staying in Cascadas or Rizo and doing hot HK girls. Not even close.5-star hotel in Medellin 600 a week. Includes breakfast & much nicer than anything in Tijuana. Cheap studio in Laureles (still 3-4 star) $300 / week. Cheaper? Bad idea. FB girls 1/2 the cost 2 x the looks) of Tijuana but lots of risk to newbies. . SW whole range of options and very dangerous for newbies. Club gurls. Same as HKTJ but negotiating time very easy. Nobody does 30 min or less meetings. Except in El Centro. Don't go there.
AmorPorFavor
03-04-25, 22:40
5-star hotel in Medellin 600 a week. Includes breakfast & much nicer than anything in Tijuana. Cheap studio in Laureles (still 3-4 star) $300 / week. Cheaper? Bad idea. FB girls 1/2 the cost 2 x the looks) of Tijuana but lots of risk to newbies. . SW whole range of options and very dangerous for newbies. Club gurls. Same as HKTJ but negotiating time very easy. Nobody does 30 min or less meetings. Except in El Centro. Don't go there.Which 5 star hotels? Can you bring girls in? Is there a charge per guest? I want to stay in one.
Hi, I usually go to Thailand or Singapore (Viet girls) to monger, but it would be easy enough for me to get to Tijuana and go to HK club.
I am not attracted to the typical larger breast / ass Latina girl and prefer slim girls with natural bodies. Occasionally I encounter Latina girls that look like that and they are perfect.
Are there such girls at HK club?
Hi, I usually go to Thailand or Singapore (Viet girls) to monger, but it would be easy enough for me to get to Tijuana and go to HK club.
I am not attracted to the typical larger breast / ass Latina girl and prefer slim girls with natural bodies. Occasionally I encounter Latina girls that look like that and they are perfect.
Are there such girls at HK club?Yes there are slim and downright tiny girls at HK. I agree that is preferred. Lots of variety there in terms of age and body type.
Hi, I usually go to Thailand or Singapore (Viet girls) to monger, but it would be easy enough for me to get to Tijuana and go to HK club.
I am not attracted to the typical larger breast / ass Latina girl and prefer slim girls with natural bodies. Occasionally I encounter Latina girls that look like that and they are perfect.
Are there such girls at HK club?There are hundreds of girls to choose from on a busy weekend. You will find one that works for you. Just take a visit and check it out.
There are hundreds of girls to choose from on a busy weekend. You will find one that works for you. Just take a visit and check it out.Thanks for the encouragement. I think ill go on a wed or thurs the first time. I don't do well with crowds of horny men.
I popped into HK for an hour or so tonight just because I was bored with no intention of arriba. Decent mix of girls, about what you expect on a Tues night. Not at all a fan of the new smoking rule for Miami, that area is now ruined.
Bought a drink for a tiny little chica called 'Yessi'. She tried to order the wine, I put a stop to it. She apologized saying it was her first day and she didn't understand everything yet. Hmm. In any case she was fun in the booth, nice lap dance, kissed my neck and was fine with lots of touching. Spoke a bit of english but the conversation was a bit forced. If it wasn't for the rock hard bolt ONS I probably would have had to take her up. I got her whatsapp and might have to anyway. She said she lives in Mexico city and is there for 7 days. If you are into tiny bodies and a pretty face, you should check her out.
I had made arrangements to meet up with one of my favoritas yesterday but she said she would be running a little late so I hung out at HK for a while. Talent was ok, not great but not bad either. Took a seat at a table and noticed a very pretty girl from a distance. Going off simply looks she could pass for being American with hazel eyes. Seems to be about 5'5" without heels, very skinny with probably a small B cup and just enough of a curve on her ass for it not to be flat. Straight brown hair a little bit passed her shoulders. She was easily the prettiest girl in the entire place kind of resembling a young Natalie Portman. Definitely hadn't seen her before. Only thing was she looked kind of stuck up, like a princess type. But sometimes looks can be deceiving, maybe she was a cool girl? I continued studying her from afar and eventually an Asian guy who looked like the lead character from Squid Game invited her for a drink. They seemed to be getting along well as she was being very friendly and putting her arms around him. Even gave him some kisses on the cheek. I guess she's friendly after all. They were drinking for a while so I figured they weren't going anywhere anytime soon so I took off to see who else was around. A little later on I saw them going arriba. Of course, I thought. I should have grabbed her when I had the chance. Oh well.
Hung out some more talking a to a couple girls I know, killing time still waiting for my other chica. I ended up taking a seat again and the pretty girl from before passed by my table. I got up to chase her down before somebody else snatched her up. I introduced myself and asked if she would like to sit for a drink, she said sure. We sat down and she said her name was Maribel. I asked how old she was and she said 21, which I believed to be true. She could even pass for 19 or 20. I was crossing my fingers hoping she wouldn't want to order the little wine bottle, because she definitely looks like that type, thankfully she ordered some kind of mixed drink that was regular priced. I asked how long she had been working at the club and she said one week. Unfortunately she said she will be leaving back home tomorrow. I asked when she would be back and she said she didn't know because she didn't really like working there. She said it was just something she always wanted to try out and now that she has, she thinks it's probably not for her. I said surely you must be making a good amount of money at least and she said yes but that she wasn't sure this was the line of work she wanted to be in for the long haul. She said she works at a high end women's boutique back home and it's a job she enjoys.
Since it was getting close to my other chica arriving, I asked if she was into girls and she said no. I said not even if someone were to offer you $200 to be with one and she said it would still be a no and that women didn't turn her on at all. I said fair enough. Sometime during all of this she hopped on my lap and we interlocked hands. I went in for a couple of kisses which she allowed but no DFK. After her second drink she asked if I would like to take her arriba. Of course I did but already had a girl on the way. If I didn't I probably would have taken her back to my room with no negotiation and taken the risk of her hopefully accepting whatever I gave her, which in this case would have probably been $120. Since I knew I wasn't taking her arriba, I asked how much, since it really didn't make a difference either way and she said $150. Damn. I just nodded and said maybe later after I was done with my other chica if she was still around. She said ok and to just let her know. About 15-20 minutes later I saw her heading arriba with a well dressed white guy in his late 30's, early 40's. I'm not going to lie, even though her quote was a little higher than usual I kind of regret not banging her. She's definitely a trophy fuck if I ever saw one. A real knock out. Didn't see her again after that. If I ever see her around again I'll invite her for another drink and see how it goes from there, but she might be a one and done. I think I'll be thinking about this one for a while.
I asked how long she had been working at the club and she said one week. Unfortunately she said she will be leaving back home tomorrow. I asked when she would be back and she said she didn't know because she didn't really like working there. She said it was just something she always wanted to try out and now that she has, she thinks it's probably not for her. I said surely you must be making a good amount of money at least and she said yes but that she wasn't sure this was the line of work she wanted to be in for the long haul. She said she works at a high end women's boutique back home and it's a job she enjoys.I doubt this was the first time she ever worked as a prostitute. Pretty much all of the girls I see in other cities in Mexico from club girls to escorts they all bring up HK and what it's like and many claim to have worked there.
I know that you weren't there to believe everything she says and could care less if what she said was true. Also with HK being the major leagues of bars I do think some girls can't handle the craziness of it and realize no matter the money it's not worth it.
I doubt this was the first time she ever worked as a prostitute. Pretty much all of the girls I see in other cities in Mexico from club girls to escorts they all bring up HK and what it's like and many claim to have worked there.
I know that you weren't there to believe everything she says and could care less if what she said was true. Also with HK being the major leagues of bars I do think some girls can't handle the craziness of it and realize no matter the money it's not worth it.I could see her possibly working for an escort agency back home since she lives in a big city. She looks too proper to be working at HK. I believe when she says it was her first time working there though, I definitely would have remembered if I had ever seen her around before.
Caught myself reading here while sitting in HK and thought WTF are you doing enjoy your time instead of reading ISG.
Is it hard to find the shuttle to HK after walking across the border? Also, is there a time limit on the shuttle or is it every 15 minutes all 24 hrs a day?
And has walking back across the border to the US been a long line or anything with all the stuff going on at the border lately?
Lastly, do you yall recommend parking car at the paid parking lot in San Ysidiro or just ubering to the border from San Diego? I'll be staying in San Diego.
MarksOfMagic
03-07-25, 05:17
When a brotha sends a group text that he needs a drink cause him and his girl are getting a Divorce, it's a like a bat signal that can be seen all the way to the east coast. You make sure you are there regardless of where you are at in the country or the world in fact to make sure you are there to comfort him with Don Julio and your choice of chica to make him forget about his ex wife and problems.
This was a weekday, the club was empty as f ck and a distant memory of what it used to look like on weekdays of what I remember. Briefly popped into Chicago and 9 girls, 5 guys at around 930 pm. Sad. Tropical had about 30 girls looking bored.
Known this brotha for a while and music connects us and it resonates with us to remind us of the times in our lives. If you have ever had electric guitar solos and heavy deep Ballads touch your soul to remind you of where you are or where you were at in a certain time in your life- you know that the music brings a good healing or cleansing of some sort. Sometimes you got to explore those tough times and how you climbed out of that black hole to remind you of the strengths of where you are at today. I'm If you understand listening to Scorpians Always Somewhere in the Middle of sea or Nothing Else matters in another 3rd world country reminiscing about shit, cheers to you brotha. These ballads play time and time again at Hk and sometimes you need some time on your own, everybody needs some time on their own. Get back to this later.
Anyhow, don Julio flowed the whole night. Remind you again, this was a weekday but we were there for the brotha. We bought food for girls to eat and soon our section filled with chicas like it was a watering hole for wild animals. The abundance of life flourished in our specific section. 2 girls looked from the distance smiling but shy to approached so I offered them chips with tapatillo hot sauce but they wanted slices of pizza. Shy and flirty they were, both from Guadalajara one with white smooth milky skin and the other tanner with lots of tattoos like kat von the. Both under 24. One with glasses the other without. Before asking me to buy a drink- which I would have bought both one- they impatiently joked and asked for a threesome. I chuckled knowing I've played this game before and now I just saved by not having to buy these 2 a drink. They both gave their game up right away and of course I ask how much each but instead of saying it out loud, I told them to each say it to my left ear and the other the right.
Tatted one says 140, the other chicasays Cein 100. I look at the tatted one with a disappointed look on my face like wtf girl, you f cked up. Told her gracias and enjoy your night. Take the other girls hand and ask her what she would like to drink? I told her order a champagne if you'd like but I told her I'm only giving her 80 for arriba if she does. She orders a little beer knowing she is almost guaranteed on a slow night and pretty much is a good vibe. Sat on my lap and didn't get off when meseros kept give her the eye. Fast forward to when I take her to the room finally.
She was amazed by our room like she had never been into this type of room like it was a new level unlocked for her. Explored her body and felt her curves, read and viewed her tattoos which were more subtle and sexy but doing so just got both of us horny. She was impatient and wanted it right away. Young girls. But here is why this girl was memorable and added to my list to repeat aside from all the things that made me want her again. She took me by surprise when things started heating up, she had a light bulb moment in her head and basically stopped everything, got up and said "vebrador" . Had a Dave Chappelle look on my face like wtf you say girl? I thought she wanted to do some kind of drug or take a shot but She runs to her bag and grabs a bullet vibrator- "the vebrador" shook my head and Laughed out loud like ok. Surprise MF! I got this toy we can play with or I can play with. She was so happy and excited to whip it out and I really think shejust got this thing. She put that shit on her pussy and wow, thing got super soaker wet and grippy. So I'm thinking she's going to leave that shit on there til she cums or just to use as a fire starter. Nope she used that thing in all positions, the whole time and was feeling it too damn much. Orgams after orgasm. Put it on my nipple, her nipple but then right back to her spot. At some point, my dick was getting numb and losing some kind of feeling due to the vibration. I'm trying to take it off but she keeps putting that shit back on to a point where I'm just mad f cking her cause she won't take that vebrador off and it's make my dick numb but I guess I'm getting harder and harder and she's loving it more and more. Ok wow. Ya. Type 3 sex kind of chica right here. (Refer to my 4 kinds of chicas sex types post) I finished so hard and let out the biggest sex war cry of my life- and I am dam serious about this. They say you can hear a lions roar 25 miles away. Well you prolly heard my finish from down the hall on the same floor. Ya! I just didn't give a f ck and mad for some reason cause at this point I can't even feel my dick anymore although it might have been the biggest its ever been in my life at climax. Man. We layed there after both in bed, sweaty, cuddling and I ended taking a 5 minute cat nap and woke up to her wiping my off cold sweat. Such service and I was impressed.
Felt like she deserved more than what she asked for based on her services. Pooled the money I had in my pockets, pesos to dollars. Large and small bills. I told her to pick her propina with her eyes closed. Of course she peeked and pretending to pick out 2 but I smiled and told her that was both hers. She screamed like she won a prize that I made sort of fun for her. I too had fun giving. She hugged me naked and jumped onto like she was the prize. But I had the brilliant idea ask her for pics, of that cute butt. She posed and posed and grabbed my phone and took selfies to a point where I was like I only wanted one back butt pic, not an onlyfans gallery. Never will I share these. The butt was to damn perfect. The smile and jubilation on her face justified how great it was for her to be a puta and paid for doing what she loves. Her peak of feeling appreciated. Not going to say how much cause I know dummys here will trip over what the 2 bills were and I paid, blah blah. No this doesn't mess up the market- paying what a girl initially asks does. What you pay above is not expected and is out of your generosity. It shows your respect and appreciation and I've always said some girls deserve more than what they are worth- end of discussion there.
We go back to the club, ask her if she wants a drink, and she tells masero, "Frep". Again I'm like wtf did you just order. I ask her to explain and masero says Azul? She explains it's caf-ee. A dam frappacino is what she wanted. LOL. This girl basically wanted a dessert after that wild ass ride. Typical civie type chick. Craving something sweet. If your girl ever orders a frap, this is less than a girl drink and I'll order this all day for any girl if I could. We stayed in our section for about 2 hrs. Club was empty so she stayed rubbing my back lightly and ran her hands up and down my back and arms as I enjoyed my time catching up with bros I hadn't seen in a minute for the bros the Day. She was good company after and dedicated.
On a side note, now I get a full glimpse of the friend who is now sitting with her on the opposite side, my goodness, she was gorgeous but no one took her up. She had one pity drink from someone at the table. She was my next target because her friend will tell her all about me unless but maybe I won't take her because dumb girls like this asking for 140 on a slow night don't deserve play while her friend made out $ and had a good time.
My chica stuck around long enough thinking she was going to be able to go back up for round 2 when all the guys went up, and I was ok to bring her up again- and at this point I thought I can name my price But around 3 am. The DJ. Plays November Rain to an almost empty club. The song flowed so well at first, the sound system at HK is amazing hitting the piano with orchestra notes and mids with equal amount of base, perfectly tuned. But when Axel Rose sang, "nothing last forever and we both know hearts can change" everyone said oh shit in their heads in almost perfect harmony and looked at our bro who was staring at big screen watching the music video in a deep thought while he pounded a shot of tequila. Like the DJ knew why we were here and just perfectly placed this song in our dream. Damn, if you can ever feel what a man is going through inside his head and just share in some pain, that was it and this was the song to describe it. We all felt that shit and someone finally yelled "eeeyyyyy" and poured out the rest of our bottles. Everything was a blurr after and all I remember was an almost euphoric uplifting feeling of a brotherhood bond with bros deeper than any bond with the background of Slash's Electric guitar solos of November Rain hitting your soul. Got to love the Qi of hk when you can share this moment and experience with long time bros who will be there for you on your the day, lose your V day, birthday and bachelor party. Any day. Highs and lows. End it right there.
KenjiYoshioka
03-08-25, 07:27
Is it hard to find the shuttle to HK after walking across the border? Also, is there a time limit on the shuttle or is it every 15 minutes all 24 hrs a day?
And has walking back across the border to the US been a long line or anything with all the stuff going on at the border lately?
Lastly, do you yall recommend parking car at the paid parking lot in San Ysidiro or just ubering to the border from San Diego? I'll be staying in San Diego.Take the Blue Line train.
Trying to figure out when the full Miami area is open. Is it Thursday through Saturday or is it also open Sundays?Thursday to Sunday, 7 PM to probably 5 AM. Closed Monday, Tuesday and Wed. Others can correct me.
MongerHunger
03-09-25, 00:58
And has walking back across the border to the US been a long line or anything with all the stuff going on at the border lately?
What's going on at the border? I was just in Tijuana. Do you know something that we don't know?
Is it hard to find the shuttle to HK after walking across the border? Also, is there a time limit on the shuttle or is it every 15 minutes all 24 hrs a day?
And has walking back across the border to the US been a long line or anything with all the stuff going on at the border lately?
Lastly, do you yall recommend parking car at the paid parking lot in San Ysidiro or just ubering to the border from San Diego? I'll be staying in San Diego.The Shuttle starts running around 3 PM and continue until 6 AM all week. This I know others can correct me. The regularity changes depending on traffic but I never had to wait more than 15 minutes both directions.
You will face long lines specially at the San Yisdro side unless you time it right, like early mornings. The Chaverral side is better but doesn't work 24 hrs. Check the schedule.
The paid parkings are good enough so long as you don't care for the money they charge, the price slightly changes depending how near or further away from the border you are. Don't park on the streets unless you know what you are doing. A buddy of mine who is local always parks on the streets for 2 nights and never had issues. You can also park in San Diego and then uber or use the train. Of course uber is faster and comfy but you pay a lot more. The blue line train is about $2. 50 and is very reliable as far as punctuality goes and drops and pick you up right at the San Yisdro border.
StubbornMule
03-09-25, 05:13
Hi, I usually go to Thailand or Singapore (Viet girls) to monger, but it would be easy enough for me to get to Tijuana and go to HK club.
I am not attracted to the typical larger breast / ass Latina girl and prefer slim girls with natural bodies. Occasionally I encounter Latina girls that look like that and they are perfect.
Are there such girls at HK club?Does Singapore have a good mongering scene? Is it easy to find Viet girls? How would you compare Singapore and Thailand? Thanks.
Does Singapore have a good mongering scene? Is it easy to find Viet girls? How would you compare Singapore and Thailand? Thanks.Take a look at the Singapore thread and I have some postings there. I use a similar name across boards I've also posted on other boards.
There are two famous bars (with usually good bands) Brix and Ipanema. Brix has gorgeous women (almost all 7+) at high prices. They are freelancers. Its just known this is where you go. The prettiest ones are Viets IMO. But you meet girls from everywhere. Ipanema is a step down in quality and price. Singapore has very expensive escort services, and on a lower end Geylang has brothels (Chinese / Viet / Thai).
You got it all, and its legal, and relaxed. But its an expensive city like London or New York.
My routine trip is to combine Singapore and Bangkok. I like both, they offer different things.
I read somewhere (I think), that Wednesday has some unusual events, and is not preferred. I can't find where I read that again. I am thinking about going Wednesday or Thursday.
When do the girls come in. I am thinking of going across the border after lunch and just relaxing a bit, then heading over to HK at 7 pm. Would honestly rather be done at 10 as it will take me 3 hours to go home. The alternative is committing to spending the night there.
I am not a big drinker, especially when i am in a place like this and I need to keep my wits about me.
If i have to wait till later for a good selection, Ill just spend the night in Tujuana, and go back home after a nice breakfast.
Cocr Brotheler
03-09-25, 07:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz7XsWuekwE&t=300s
Have any of you come across AceBachelorCool's YouTubes?
I think he is hilarious. About the same content every video but he always changes something in each video.
He has been living there in A. See. For 3 years.
3 types of Girls:
Baby dolls.
Barbie dolls and.
Experienced Vets /30+.
I know this thread is T. J. , MEX but some other posts about Asia in here.
I read somewhere (I think), that Wednesday has some unusual events, and is not preferred. I can't find where I read that again. I am thinking about going Wednesday or Thursday.
When do the girls come in. I am thinking of going across the border after lunch and just relaxing a bit, then heading over to HK at 7 pm. Would honestly rather be done at 10 as it will take me 3 hours to go home. The alternative is committing to spending the night there.
I am not a big drinker, especially when i am in a place like this and I need to keep my wits about me.
If i have to wait till later for a good selection, Ill just spend the night in Tujuana, and go back home after a nice breakfast.Both Wednesdays and Thursdays are good. You are much better off spending a night there. You will face lines on the way out in the morning after breakfast. Use Chaparral if they are open.
I read somewhere (I think), that Wednesday has some unusual events, and is not preferred. I can't find where I read that again. I am thinking about going Wednesday or Thursday.
When do the girls come in. I am thinking of going across the border after lunch and just relaxing a bit, then heading over to HK at 7 pm. Would honestly rather be done at 10 as it will take me 3 hours to go home. The alternative is committing to spending the night there.
I am not a big drinker, especially when i am in a place like this and I need to keep my wits about me.
If i have to wait till later for a good selection, Ill just spend the night in Tujuana, and go back home after a nice breakfast.The events that take place on Wednesdays happen just once a month. This month it's the 12th and it's a bikini contest.
The girls come in starting around 8 am and your will see them arriving through out the day with the last ones usually starting at 10 pm. If you have nothing to do I'd suggest just going to HK after your lunch. You will have plenty of girls to look at and at that point you can decide if you want to stay the night. Remember the room for a 30 min session is $40, or you can get a room for all night for $90. So if you plan on going with more than one girl you might as well get a room for the night. That gives you the option of staying and being more rested for the drive home or if your bored at around 10 pm you can still leave.
You won't be disappointed in the selection of afternoon girls to the night girls it's just a different atmosphere. For a first timer I'd definitely suggest just spending most of the day and staying the night because it gives you more options.
Is it hard to find the shuttle to HK after walking across the border? Also, is there a time limit on the shuttle or is it every 15 minutes all 24 hrs a day?My last visit was Sunday night / Monday morning and I arrived just before 2 am to the shuttle and they were stopping rides to HK at that time. So I doubt it's 24/7 but might be longer depending on how busy it is or day. From past memories or things written on this board the shuttle is easy to find after you walk into Mexico as long as you enter on the San Ysidro entrance. Since I was already in Mexico I just walked towards the border and eventually found it.
As far as giving rides back to the border they have longer hours if not 24/7.
Trying to figure out when the full Miami area is open. Is it Thursday through Saturday or is it also open Sundays?I've never seen it open on Sunday night. The only exception to them opening on a Sunday might be on holiday weekends.
The events that take place on Wednesdays happen just once a month. This month it's the 12th and it's a bikini contest.
The girls come in starting around 8 am and your will see them arriving through out the day with the last ones usually starting at 10 pm. If you have nothing to do I'd suggest just going to HK after your lunch. You will have plenty of girls to look at and at that point you can decide if you want to stay the night. Remember the room for a 30 min session is $40, or you can get a room for all night for $90. So if you plan on going with more than one girl you might as well get a room for the night. That gives you the option of staying and being more rested for the drive home or if your bored at around 10 pm you can still leave.
You won't be disappointed in the selection of afternoon girls to the night girls it's just a different atmosphere. For a first timer I'd definitely suggest just spending most of the day and staying the night because it gives you more options.I would be thrilled if I could do an afternoon hangout, grab some dinner and then decide if I want to go back or not. Thank you so much.
I am a big fanof CDMX and Merida. I am not a fan of Zona Norte in Tijuana. Is there anything like this in other Mexican cities.
I am a big fanof CDMX and Merida. I am not a fan of Zona Norte in Tijuana. Is there anything like this in other Mexican cities.I'm not a fan of the area as well but unfortunately that's were the girls are. The good thing is that if yo decide to stay for a longer time in Tijuana you have nicer parts if the city to stay in or just stay in one of the nicest cities in the US that happens to be just on the other side of the border.
Others in this board have more experience in visiting a wide variety of cities in Mexico compared to myself. I'd suggest looking at TomJackin trip reports since he's been to every state in Mexico. For the most part nothing is like Tijuana. Toluca just outside CDMX has lots of clubs, MTY is popular but the clubs seem to attract trashy girls at least what I've seen on X. Most of the clubs in the Cancun area often get busted for trafficking girls so you never know if the girls are working freely or forced.
I enjoy Guadalajara because it has many clubs and they are in a nice part of the city but not as convenient as Tijuana. But the taxi or Uber is cheap that you can visit a few clubs for little or no cost. The problem is it's much more expensive to be with girls compared to Tijuana.
I was not sure if I was going to reply to people saying negative things about the Zona Norte but it is comical. Once a monger knows the game I can not imagine anywhere better. I do think there is a lot of fun in South American and Asia but the Zona Norte is great for those who know how to play the game that has been setup. To be fair my location is close to the Zona and this has assisted greatly in my skills in finding quality locas.
There are definitely some freak vibes going around HK.
Both of these girls had natural breasts. Firm and good sizes but the fact they were 100% natural with natural boobs and curves may not be for everyone. Saying this now because I think these two were 10 out of 10. I could see these girls walking the Victoria Secret run way.
A few weeks ago took this amazing hottie up to my room for $150. I do not typically do this much at the start but I have been known to tip up to this much and more. This girl was fantastic looks wise. Bona fide 10 depending on your exact tastes. I am not sure if her name is Lluvia or I made that up because when I saw her dancing the club was making it rain. Guys tipped her, girls tipped her and it was obvious this girl was beyond popular. So I took the $150 offer. She was well worth it. The clitoris does not like and I know this was all an act but this loca deserves a gold medal for her performance. If performance during sex was an Olympic sport I think I found the girl who would have the most gold medals. She gave me her number but as one would expect she rarely messages me back. She was not working for a while due to someone taking her on a holiday trip. It was amazing vacation for some dude I am sure. The charisma and fun this girl shows is top notch. Looks and attitude are rare to find.
The next week I was back and saw this girl I had seen before. In the past she wanted marijuana to have sex but I do not bring that to Tijuana. Forgot her name totally. This was early in morning after a lot of Don Julio and Mezcal. Her skin was more tanned like a girl from cancun. Dark hair, amazing face and body. If you like the light skin girls she may fall to a 8 out of 10 but for the rest of us she was a 10. I first noticed her dancing for another guy and she was rocking it like a true pro. I am not sure why this guy did not take her upstairs. As soon as she was free and back at bar I was with her. We quickly agreed to go upstairs. Another $150 girl. Like I said before the clitoris does not lie and this girl was loving what I was doing. We had fun for a long time. For whatever reason there is no knock on door. This one is a great dancer and she knows her value. She can speak English good enough. Really wish I remembered her name but I could find her easy again just by her looks and attitude.
I am probably not going to be in the clubs again for weeks maybe months depending on when my friends bring me back down. Too bad because there are some serious freak vibes going down in the clubs right now.
There are good girls asking 100-120. I am not trying to say mongers should raise their prices specially while the dollar is strong in relation to peso. What I am saying is sometimes the looks and attitude to merit accepting a higher figure.
Its been a while since I've gone back to Tijuana / HK and this is the first time where I'm considering not staying above in Cascadas.
Also hate the fact that they got rid of smoking inside the club a while back & having to tip everybody and their mother.
Some peace and quiet would be nice this time around when + I'm not fucking 24/7 anyways.
Has anyone ever had any luck bringing HK girls back to hotels off-site?
Or is that only possible when they're off their shift?
Apart from a telegram group I'm in is goodgirls technically the best there is for non HK / club girls? Or have you guys seen better?
Safe BBFS is ideal but not sure if that's ever guaranteed but as safe as possible is the highest priority.
Cheers.
Its been a while since I've gone back to Tijuana / HK and this is the first time where I'm considering not staying above in Cascadas.
Also hate the fact that they got rid of smoking inside the club a while back & having to tip everybody and their mother.
Some peace and quiet would be nice this time around when + I'm not fucking 24/7 anyways.
Has anyone ever had any luck bringing HK girls back to hotels off-site?
Or is that only possible when they're off their shift?
Apart from a telegram group I'm in is goodgirls technicallyThat kid has a rotten mouth. the best there is for non HK / club girls? Or have you guys seen better?
That kid has a rotten mouth.
Safe BBFS is ideal but not sure if that's ever guaranteed but as safe as possible is the highest priority.
That kid has a rotten mouth.
Cheers.Getting rid of smoking is a good thing.
You can get the girls come off site and off shift to other hotels but really depends on your relationship and rapport with the girl, and of course how much you want to pay her to encourage her.
I don't do call girls at all so can't help you there. Call girls are hit or miss and is devoid of the festive and in person atmosphere you get in the clubs.
I always advise to stay away from BBFS with hookers.
Its been a while since I've gone back to Tijuana / HK and this is the first time where I'm considering not staying above in Cascadas.
Also hate the fact that they got rid of smoking inside the club a while back & having to tip everybody and their mother.
Some peace and quiet would be nice this time around when + I'm not fucking 24/7 anyways.
Has anyone ever had any luck bringing HK girls back to hotels off-site?
Or is that only possible when they're off their shift?
Apart from a telegram group I'm in is goodgirls technically the best there is for non HK / club girls? Or have you guys seen better?.You can't take HK girls to your own hotel when they are working. Only off the clock.
No such thing as safe BBFS. The girl could have just passed a std test, and still be carrying something.
I am not going to tell other people what to do with their sex life. The assumptions that get tossed around on the internet are wild. Not talking about the post I quoted. it is a good point.
Do suggest people look into the risks and be aware as much as possible. Even sex with condom is not 100% safe. Part of some training I did year ago I was shown a LA Times article that said less than half of the people in the USA get tested for STIs / STDs. I did not dig into how good the data was. Point is who knows who is safe or not safe. Doctors will not even test for some things unless I push them for it. So there is a chance even if someone feels they asked their doctor for a screening the doctor did not check 100% for everything that can be checked unless they pushed their doctor for it.
Even if a monger feels they have the most protected sex, they should get tested regularly. Shoot anyone having regular sex with anyone should get tested regularly. We should all be aware of our health status.
I know people who have been active for years with nothing caught. I know people who got one thing but it was curable. I know one guy who was active in the business about a year, always used condoms and got herpes from a high priced USA escort.
No such thing as safe BBFS. The girl could have just passed a std test, and still be carrying something.
A lot of girls will see people outside the club. Even the two of the hottest locas I have had sex with had this option. One invited me to her birthday party in Rosarito but work dominated me that weekend. The other went on a 5 day vacation with some lucky dude.
It is probably no big deal to see a girl for a couple hours. I have spent the night with many girls. Gone on vacations with others. This requires more trust and I am very picky who I spend the night with. There is a whole routine I go through. Chemistry is important to me if we spending time together. I did a long vacation in Quintana Roo. What helped me feel more comfortable doing the road trips was having a girl with me who I really trusted and who spoke English for any jams I potentially would get into. Only saw one police check point the entire trip. She got us through it no problem.
Advice I saw on forums is solid. Remember these girls are working their job. If you ask them to see you outside the club either ask them to go on their days off or be prepared to pay for their time of work missed. Not just loss of income but these girls will get scolded (word they use translate to this) for not coming to work on a day they were supposed to be there. Some of these girls get free hotel room for working so many days so there are costs involved beyond just loss of propinas, drinks and sex upstairs. The really smart ones get their own apartment. Most of my Tijuana travel has been going to where a loca stays to pick her up. As much trash as people talk about Tijuana there are some decent areas I would feel safe living in.
With all this said one of the girls I know at HK and one of her friends that introduced herself to me on IG do not even work Saturdays for the most part. They avoid the craziness in the club and do meets ups outside the club Saturday. There are many options available. They both do anal and one of my wingmen really wants to see one if not both of them but he keeps missing them on Saturday.
Bottom line is money talks. These girls are business locas and looking to earn money.
Do not get your feelings hurt if they say no. They have their reasons. This is business. Find another one.
Its been a while since I've gone back to Tijuana / HK and this is the first time where I'm considering not staying above in Cascadas.
Also hate the fact that they got rid of smoking inside the club a while back & having to tip everybody and their mother.
Some peace and quiet would be nice this time around when + I'm not fucking 24/7 anyways.
Has anyone ever had any luck bringing HK girls back to hotels off-site?
Or is that only possible when they're off their shift?
Apart from a telegram group I'm in is goodgirls technically the best there is for non HK / club girls? Or have you guys seen better?
Safe BBFS is ideal but not sure if that's ever guaranteed but as safe as possible is the highest priority.
Cheers.
I am not going to tell other people what to do with their sex life. The assumptions that get tossed around on the internet are wild. Not talking about the post I quoted. it is a good point........I guess I'm the last person who should be advocating to avoid BBFS. I always use a condom but I do indulge in DATY. If the girl is stunningly hot and clean I dive in. Its very hard for me to resist that. Afterwards I feel a little disgusted with myself. Its like the guy who knows that Coke (Coca Cola) is bad for him and drink it anyway because of the taste and to hell with associated health problems. If the girl is hot I know I shouldn't but its hard to resist in the heat of the action.
One of the people I know who BBFS sex workers like crazy and has not gotten anything tells me he thinks he is special. I dunno maybe he is. He gets tested all the time to show these girls to convince the ones who are not sure if they should do it. Like I said there is another former monger I know who got herpes using a condom with a near four figure high end USA escort. He was in the hobby about a year. Some people want to post like STIs / STDs only exist in lower income countries.
What I am really talking about is the girls. If they do something with one monger you better believe she is doing it with others. I am not going to say these girls do not get certain feelings for some guys, they do. Thing is these girls need money and if they willing to do something for one guy for money they will do it for another guy with money. When I first started getting sex workers I would ask them how much more for no condom after the sex was done. Sex was done, I did not really want it. I just wanted to see how far they would go for money. Lets just say the knowledge of what girls would do and how much got me to stop asking this question. Times and inflation have changed things but lets just say $20 went a real long way at one time not too long ago.
One of the issues I have with this discussion on the internet is the lack any any nuisances of the details of the actual science or the details of the people involved. I know it is easy to just put everything into 2-3 categories and assume everything falls into one of these categories. I get life is easier for some who want to do this. The bottom line though is for those who want to invest the time and effort, life is much much more complex. For me, life is rewarding knowing as many details as possible.
I guess I'm the last person who should be advocating to avoid BBFS. I always use a condom but I do indulge in DATY. If the girl is stunningly hot and clean I dive in. Its very hard for me to resist that. Afterwards I feel a little disgusted with myself. Its like the guy who knows that Coke (Coca Cola) is bad for him and drink it anyway because of the taste and to hell with associated health problems. If the girl is hot I know I shouldn't but its hard to resist in the heat of the action.
Back to what my post was suppose to start. Opportunities for fun.
I went Thursday and the talent was new and out of this world. I had thought maybe I would see one of these girl I been having fun with in 2025 but none of them were in the HK. Man there were so many more good ones.
Something I saw was this super hot blonde spinner with a female client for a good 1 hour. She had an amazing smile and seemed to be a lot of fun. I saw her again later but the girl was either super drunk or maybe more. She was having a hard time standing up. A HK worker escorted her to the top dressing room. Hope to see her another time.
It is crazy to think we may know a lot of girls in the club at any given time but on Thursday for whatever reason there are a whole bunch of new ones ready to give good customer service to clients.
No such thing as safe BBFS. The girl could have just passed a std test, and still be carrying something.The girls in HK are pretty clean. I know there is no reason why they should be, but for some reason, they are. I've used myself as a Guinea pig to test this over and over again for years. You can take this with a grain of salt though. I'm probably just lucky, or maybe it's the fact that I'm immortal.
Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever?
Leak Her Pics
03-18-25, 21:08
The girls in HK are pretty clean. I know there is no reason why they should be, but for some reason, they are. I've used myself as a Guinea pig to test this over and over again for years. You can take this with a grain of salt though. I'm probably just lucky, or maybe it's the fact that I'm immortal.
Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever?Never get too comfortable. And if you do, don't lie to yourself. There's always a risk in catching something.
The girls in HK are pretty clean. I know there is no reason why they should be, but for some reason, they are. I've used myself as a Guinea pig to test this over and over again for years. You can take this with a grain of salt though. I'm probably just lucky, or maybe it's the fact that I'm immortal.
Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever?People who are caught special by terminal ones never say, I got one. Most guys in the zona hobby keep going, specially because there is no control. I sex clubs like we have in the zona required guys to have test certificates to enter but they don't. My assumption is, if a girl suddenly stop showing working, either she has better pastures somewhere or she got worse things.
Has anyone heard the working girls are afforded to have PrEP injections in Tijuana?
I read this online. Basically says it is offered free if qualify for certain requirement.
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Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever? - None of us will. Have fun!
Sex workers in Tijuana are more clean than any other sex worker I have encountered anywhere else in multiple countries. I laugh at those who judge people based on perception of the country. Some of these girls are relatively safe.
With that said, there is still risk. No one is 100% without risk even with protection.
Those hot girls I talked about earlier down for anything. That risk is nuclear level because I know one of them is rarely in the club. She is ALWAYS upstairs. Probably doing the same thing with every single guy. With her looks, her performance and her willingness to do anything I am sure she is selling beers like mad as guys do not want her to leave their room but the club knocks on the door of the room she is in.
Dunno which girls were in one of the premium rooms I walked by near the elevator but the waiter got the dude to agree to buy $300 in beers last Saturday in Feb.
I seen the tips the sexy girl down for anything makes while dancing. I am certain the beers are flowing and the dirty sex is going all night. Dudes probably go home broke af with credit cards maxed out with that one hahaha. Check out the song Bad Habit. I am certain some have fallen into her trap.
My wingman gets drained by sexy girls who do anal. He does wild things. I thought he got past his n00 b days before COVID but this one loca who was willing to do both of us at same time made a hard run at all his cash one night. Some weed, some coca, a friend of hers and my wingman comes to me hours before we supposed to leave broke af hahaha. Not even going to share how much money he spent on those two.
So yea. Some of these girls nasty af. All good. It makes some guys happy. I am sure these guys will be on their deathbed remembering the wild times they had. Maybe with a "gift" that can not be cured. I hear there are homes in Florida these kind of people can retire to.
The girls in HK are pretty clean. I know there is no reason why they should be, but for some reason, they are. I've used myself as a Guinea pig to test this over and over again for years. You can take this with a grain of salt though. I'm probably just lucky, or maybe it's the fact that I'm immortal.
Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever?
AmericanPi
03-19-25, 15:40
The girls in HK are pretty clean. I know there is no reason why they should be, but for some reason, they are. I've used myself as a Guinea pig to test this over and over again for years. You can take this with a grain of salt though. I'm probably just lucky, or maybe it's the fact that I'm immortal.
Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever?I don't even know where to begin with the logical abortion on display here.
The girls in HK are pretty clean? This is a Mexican brothel and these girls are basically independent contractors. They run the gamut from fresh out of the village to lifers who will die coked up and diseased before they hit 30. HK doesn't have some monopoly on hooker chastity and good decision making. It's just a brothel. It's a business model.
And nobody wants to live forever. But that's not the point. I want to live long enough to enjoy life, and I want to enjoy sex, and I want to do so with a dick that is free from lesions, warts, and other recurring life altering and experience shattering stuff. It has literally nothing to do with wanting to live forever.
I don't even know where to begin with the logical abortion on display here.
The girls in HK are pretty clean? This is a Mexican brothel and these girls are basically independent contractors. They run the gamut from fresh out of the village to lifers who will die coked up and diseased before they hit 30. HK doesn't have some monopoly on hooker chastity and good decision making. It's just a brothel. It's a business model.
And nobody wants to live forever. But that's not the point. I want to live long enough to enjoy life, and I want to enjoy sex, and I want to do so with a dick that is free from lesions, warts, and other recurring life altering and experience shattering stuff. It has literally nothing to do with wanting to live forever.Well, the level of virtue signaling on this board has really gotten out of hand. Someone has to play devil's advocate.
The amazing thing to me is how many of the girls also like to live dangerously. I expect guys to be more horn-dogs and lack self control. You would expect girls to be more cautious, but they're not. It's the thrill of it, for both men and women.
Was in the club a few weeks ago on Monday. Was probably 4 or 5 am in the morning when I finally saw a girl I liked and invited her to my table.
This girl was from Puebla, which is a problem. For some reason, I can't understand anything that girls from Puebla are saying. I know this because there was another girl from Puebla and I had the same problem. My Spanish skills are decent, and some speakers I can understand perfectly, but apparently people from Puebla either talk too fast, or slur their words, or have a manner of speaking that I am not accustomed to, or all of the above. I'm not sure if people from Puebla have an actual accent because I'm not at the level where I can detect accents that easily, outside of, say, Castilian, or something obvious.
Anyway, I had to ask her to repeat almost everything she was saying two or three times. This girl liked to talk, too, and was telling me all about her boring life in Puebla, of which I understood about 60%. She kept going on and on about these fruity vodka drinks that they have at some rustic bar down there and telling me I need to go there and try one, or, at least, that's what I think she was saying.
After a while I cut to the chase and I asked her to accompany me to the room. So she starts with, "It's 150 or what you can afford. " (Or something to that effect) If you know me from previous posts, you know I don't like to negotiate or discuss the price beforehand. I told her that it's not about the amount, just that I don't like to talk about the price, and was about to send her off when she says to me, "you know what, I want you anyway so let's just go". Well that changes everything and we are off to the room.
So, she lived up to expectations, which means she gave me girlfriend sex without restrictions. Another thing about girls from Puebla is that they'are absolute freaks. The only downside is that she made a lot of noise during sex, which I actually don't like. Maybe some guys like that, but not me. I find it a bit fake. At one point I wanted to tell her to be quite, but I didn't because I didn't want to hurt her feelings. LOL.
She's a cute girl. She told me she was 20 and looks about that. Not a 10 but kind of a slutty girl next door type, which is basically what I like. Not enough to be regular material though. I didn't get her number because I wasn't that interested in seeing her again. There's another girl there who has the qualities I look for to see outside the club. I haven't done that in a while, but if it happens, I'll tell you the story. I ended up giving this girl slightly more than 150, which is what I pay for GFE.
AmericanPi
03-20-25, 15:03
Well, the level of virtue signaling on this board has really gotten out of hand. Someone has to play devil's advocate.
The amazing thing to me is how many of the girls also like to live dangerously. I expect guys to be more horn-dogs and lack self control. You would expect girls to be more cautious, but they're not. It's the thrill of it, for both men and women.That's the first time in my life I've been accused of virtue signaling. I am not exactly what you'the call woke.
Well, we have to acknowledge we see things differently. Living dangerously and the thrill of it, if it means bare sex with a prostitute, gracias pero no. I wish more people saw fit to cover it up. The reality is if you do this long enough, and I've been doing it a long time, you're going to get burned with something you can't cure. It's not 100%, but it's a pretty high likelihood. Sucks but it's the price of this lifestyle. And bagging it up is IMHO a small price in the grand scheme of things to have a regular unending stream of Latina vixens riding your dick. It's having your cake and eating it too.
One of these girls was asking for condom. I put it on the table by her head. We started to get into it. When I was ready I reached for the condom and had it out of the package. Mean while she grabbed my dick and was putting it inside her. This loca stays in my room for almost 2 hours. Invites me to her birthday party. These locas are beyond wild and fun.
Keep in mind the risk for the girls. They do get tested. If they catch something it will affect their ability to make money. Yet there are so many locas willing to do so much.
In San Diego and Los Angeles these 304's are beyond dumb. The amount of girls who think guys actually poke holes in condoms is ridiculous. Some of these girls bring the weakest dollar store condoms and expect the client to use it. Locas in the club will let guys run their pussy on stage for dollar or two. I give more than a couple dollars. 304's in USA will not even be happy if a guy tips them $20.
The virtue signaling on internet forums is also something else. Reminds me of the religious people working the Los Angeles Blade trying to save the 304's. They need to listen to No Role Modelz / J Cole. "Don't save her, she don't want to be saved".
All I know if these latina locas have me cum fast like 911 in a white neighborhoods. Lame mongers can't tell the difference, one time for a monger who knows.
Es una loca yeah.
Well, the level of virtue signaling on this board has really gotten out of hand. Someone has to play devil's advocate.
The amazing thing to me is how many of the girls also like to live dangerously. I expect guys to be more horn-dogs and lack self control. You would expect girls to be more cautious, but they're not. It's the thrill of it, for both men and women.
Has anyone taken a girl from the club for more than one hour in the room? What kinds of rates do you pay?
Well here, in this case, you post was virtue signaling and very woke. This board doesn't need your opinion on how someone does things. Your be better off keeping this type of opinion to yourself. Instead, focus on writing actual intel like you have in the past. That's what we are here for, mongeriing and enjoying ourselves!
Happy mongering all!
Here's to living dangerously! Cause really, do you want to live forever? - None of us will. Have fun!
Sex workers in Tijuana are more clean than any other sex worker I have encountered anywhere else in multiple countries. I laugh at those who judge people based on perception of the country. Some of these girls are relatively safe.
With that said, there is still risk. No one is 100% without risk even with protection…
So yea. Some of these girls nasty af. All good. It makes some guys happy. I am sure these guys will be on their deathbed remembering the wild times they had. Maybe with a "gift" that can not be cured. I hear there are homes in Florida these kind of people can retire to.
Has anyone taken a girl from the club for more than one hour in the room? What kinds of rates do you pay?
If a girl is on the clock, in most cases you will end up getting "the knock" near the 1 hour mark if you have your own room. If you don't have your own room you will get the knock at the 30 minute mark. If you want them for more than one hour I believe you can buy a bucket of beer for $50 and they will give you an additional 30 minutes.
Once in a while you'll get lucky and the guys who's job it is to knock on doors will lose track of time and slack off, allowing you more time with the girl. This happened to me a few days ago. I had my own room and a girl I know ended up staying for 2 hours. She was drunk and a little tired so she slept for a while after we had done the deed. We did get a knock around the 1 HR 15 min mark but she said she still didn't want to go back to work and to wait for a second knock, which luckily never came. She never brought up getting paid for the extra time. I think she was just thankful to have somewhere to rest.
You could also attempt to see them on their day off if you hit it off with them and have them see you off the clock. As far as what you pay them, it greatly varies. Some will want extra, some will be cool with whatever you usually give them. Personally I have never paid a girl extra cash for them to stay for more than 1 hour. I have had girls see me for 3-4 hours at a time for just their standard fee. The key to this is to get a girl who likes to have fun and isn't a clock watcher. I'm sure plenty of guys here have had the same thing happen. If a girl likes to get high, bring them some pre rolls. If she likes to drink, find out what her favorite drink is and have it ready for her when she arrives. If she likes to snort coke, go buy some from a dealer in the alley (just kidding of course). But having shit they like will easily buy you more time with them and gives them more of a reason to hang out with you. These are party girls after all.
Has anyone taken a girl from the club for more than one hour in the room? What kinds of rates do you pay?This question is very vague because many things come into the factor on what to expect to pay. It depends on the girl and what kind of business she gets. It depends on the night because the busier the night the more she will usually want. It also depends on you and how much connection she has with you and is willing to spend time with you for very little or she sees you as a mark and will try to get as much as possible.
In general if you are still new to HK and don't speak Spanish I'the expect to pay at least $150 an hour. Anything more than that would be up to you and if you think the girl is worth it. If your a cool guy and the girl is comfortable with you she might be willing to stay the whole night for that price but as Nothing said you have to be aware that the bar / hotel might want you to pay for more drinks if she is staying longer with you.
If a girl likes to get high, bring them some pre rolls. If she likes to drink, find out what her favorite drink is and have it ready for her when she arrives. If she likes to snort coke, go buy some from a dealer in the alley (just kidding of course). But having shit they like will easily buy you more time with them and gives them more of a reason to hang out with you. These are party girls after all.We are all adults and can do what we want but my advice to new guys is not to bring anything across the border that can get you in trouble. They are getting stricter and it's not worth bringing drugs across IMO.
Now if a girl likes to get high just give her the money and let her buy it unless you know someone. Coke is easy to buy in the club no need to go outside for it and risk getting stopped by the police.
Also some girls also like mushrooms.
We are all adults and can do what we want but my advice to new guys is not to bring anything across the border that can get you in trouble. They are getting stricter and it's not worth bringing drugs across IMO.
Now if a girl likes to get high just give her the money and let her buy it unless you know someone. Coke is easy to buy in the club no need to go outside for it and risk getting stopped by the police.
Also some girls also like mushrooms.You used your brain obviously in this response. People advising others to buy illicit drugs in Mexico is just out of wack. We have heard horrific stories over the years. I am not opposed to taking risks, but I am opposed to taking dumb risks.
Well here, in this case, you post was virtue signaling and very woke. This board doesn't need your opinion on how someone does things. Your be better off keeping this type of opinion to yourself. Instead, focus on writing actual intel like you have in the past. That's what we are here for, mongeriing and enjoying ourselves!
Happy mongering all!"Your be better off keeping this type of opinion to yourself. ".
Right on. Somethings are better kept close and tight to ones belt.
Has anyone taken a girl from the club for more than one hour in the room? What kinds of rates do you pay?In the past I had SG's and BG's come to my Hotel rooms outside of the zona, in Aqua Rio, in Ticuan even to the shitty Hotel Hacienda. Two girls came to Palacio Azteca together. The standard is usually 1 hour and the paying is that, an hour pay of $100 although most girls stayed over so I tipped them 20,40, 50. These are all Zona girls. One HK girl came to my room in Rizo after her shift ended around 9 PM and spent the whole night and left at dawn, I paid her $250. This girl I met in centro who was serving us at a Restaurant and Bar came to my room in Rizo, stayed 5 hours and I gave her $150 plus uber. Another girls who worked in a pool house in zona Rio asked I take her phone number, a modern looking girl, proper, elegant and articulate. She wanted a green card access from me for cash she was willing to pay. I declined.
One of the hottest girls in HK stayed up in my room for 2 hours with no knock on door. She asked for 150 but I gave her a tip. She earned it.
Another girl from Tropical came to my room, there was no knock but constant calling at 40 minutes. The guys at the front door scolded her and threatened her with $100 fine so staying too long.
I have not had a knock on my door asking for beer for a long time but it does happen. Last weekend in Feb 2025 saw a bar worker convincing a guy to buy $300 in beer to keep a girl in his room by the elevator.
A few years ago I was getting really close to a girl in one of these clubs. She told me the girl is the one who actually get these calls to the room going or the knock on the door. Have herd some guys claim the girls phone was off when they got the knock but what that girl said years ago to me fits my experiences 100%. I think the girl starts the calling / knocks on door.
Outside the club is a whole different thing. Had a girl spend the night with me for free once. She just wanted a night away. Other girls want $500 dollars for the night. There are many offers in between. Basically I pay for each sex session. Maybe the whole night she stays but the rate I pay is each time we have sex. Guys want more sex for less money. Girls want more money for less sex. Play the game best you can. If you get lucky and find a loca who wants sex all night keep her number and keep her happy because you know other guys will be too.
If someone is a good planner it is actually better deal to fly a girl in from a different city. Have had an out of town girl want $5000 pesos for 2 day visit. I paid for flight but she had no extra bags so was not much. I have done this for multiple girls from Monterrey and a few other cities. CDMX has a lot of girls. I met two in a very short visit there. One was my holiday loca for nearly 2 years.
Has anyone taken a girl from the club for more than one hour in the room? What kinds of rates do you pay?
Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one.
Well here, in this case, you post was virtue signaling and very woke. This board doesn't need your opinion on how someone does things. Your be better off keeping this type of opinion to yourself. Instead, focus on writing actual intel like you have in the past. That's what we are here for, mongeriing and enjoying ourselves!
Happy mongering all!
Agreed.
Alcohol is no problem.
Weed and drugs, If a police officer, or maybe even a club worker, catches someone with drugs that person better be ready to be searched and told they will go to jail if they do not pay a fine. One time a girl bought cocaine in club and tried to get me to sneak it into the hotel.
The girls like USA weed. I give them reasons I can not bring any. When a girl ask for anything that may result in a "fine" I tell her the fine is coming out of her money. That stops all the requests cold.
We are all adults and can do what we want but my advice to new guys is not to bring anything across the border that can get you in trouble. They are getting stricter and it's not worth bringing drugs across IMO.
Now if a girl likes to get high just give her the money and let her buy it unless you know someone. Coke is easy to buy in the club no need to go outside for it and risk getting stopped by the police.
Also some girls also like mushrooms.
If someone is a good planner it is actually better deal to fly a girl in from a different city. Have had an out of town girl want $5000 pesos for 2 day visit. I paid for flight but she had no extra bags so was not much. I have done this for multiple girls from Monterrey and a few other cities. CDMX has a lot of girls. I met two in a very short visit there. One was my holiday loca for nearly 2 years.True that. I befriended a girl on Facebook, forgot from where exactly she was but about 60 K. M out side of Guadalajara. We agreed for her to come in on Friday and leave Sunday night. I pay for all of her transportation and then $200 for her stay. Unfortunately I could not make it at the time due to work scheduling. Prior to that talked to her numerous times via video call on Wapp, talked to her mother and other relatives. Cool, country side people. She was exceptionally attractive.
DonCarlos1234
03-27-25, 08:53
In the past I had SG's and BG's come to my Hotel rooms outside of the zona, in Aqua Rio, in Ticuan even to the shitty Hotel Hacienda. Two girls came to Palacio Azteca together. The standard is usually 1 hour and the paying is that, an hour pay of $100 although most girls stayed over so I tipped them 20,40, 50. These are all Zona girls. One HK girl came to my room in Rizo after her shift ended around 9 PM and spent the whole night and left at dawn, I paid her $250. This girl I met in centro who was serving us at a Restaurant and Bar came to my room in Rizo, stayed 5 hours and I gave her $150 plus uber. Another girls who worked in a pool house in zona Rio asked I take her phone number, a modern looking girl, proper, elegant and articulate. She wanted a green card access from me for cash she was willing to pay. I declined.I just had a similar proposal. 10 K marriage K1 Visa. Which I also declined from a Colombian here in USA on tourist Vise which is difficult these days. (Russian girls pay a lot more) I admire these other adventures you've had & when I get there next month I would be interested is seeing if I might find similar options. In the past SA worked only slightly and girls from Adelita / hktj were infrequent. Any specific restaurants / areas or areas you found I should try? Feel free to pvt message.
I just had a similar proposal. 10 K marriage K1 Visa. Which I also declined from a Colombian here in USA on tourist Vise which is difficult these days. (Russian girls pay a lot more) I admire these other adventures you've had & when I get there next month I would be interested is seeing if I might find similar options. In the past SA worked only slightly and girls from Adelita / hktj were infrequent. Any specific restaurants / areas or areas you found I should try? Feel free to pvt message.For zona girls to come to your hotel outside their work hours, you need of course a whatsapp number and most importantly you need rapport. Once their is trust they will be safe and be treated well they will sacrifice their private time and come to see you. Onc thing that won't change is that they will still act like they are there to make money, you will still be seen as a John. Your approach doesn't change either, no matter what, you will see her as a working girl. Some SG's come to your hotel even during their work hours. I remember I walked one girl from the back of HK alley to Hotel espana (Now Rio Rita) and walked her back to her spot where she stood. I have multiple instances like this with SG's. BG's can't do this. You will have to meet them outside of their work schedule.
As for non working women, all of the occasions I have had was due to the subtle advances by the women. I catch that and go with it. The venue doesn't really matter. In centro there are numerous women who work in ligit establishments but secretly long for the dollar pie in the zona. Which means in centro if she shows you subtly she is interested means it is transactional. Care has to be taken though, not all are invitations, not all are transactional. I did make a mistake and learned. I thought a lady who had a small table selling cheap jewllery in one of the alleys in centro was open for action. She did give me her whatsapp number. I continue with the usual transactional talk, she sent me the picture of her boyfriend and said I should talk business and nothing else.
Outside of the zona, it is not like that. It will be a normal man woman interaction, although they would not mind gifts from you. If you are her type and she is available she will let you know ever so indirectly. You take things from there.
This whole thing is time consuming though, don't go to Tijuana and waste your time on this but if the opportunity comes grab it. We go to Tijuana to lay putitas, that is it. I love putitas, they excites me when they are all dolled up and have good feminine attitude.
KenjiYoshioka
03-28-25, 04:41
One of the hottest girls in HK stayed up in my room for 2 hours with no knock on door. She asked for 150 but I gave her a tip. She earned it.
Another girl from Tropical came to my room, there was no knock but constant calling at 40 minutes. The guys at the front door scolded her and threatened her with $100 fine so staying too long.
I have not had a knock on my door asking for beer for a long time but it does happen. Last weekend in Feb 2025 saw a bar worker convincing a guy to buy $300 in beer to keep a girl in his room by the elevator.
A few years ago I was getting really close to a girl in one of these clubs. She told me the girl is the one who actually get these calls to the room going or the knock on the door. Have herd some guys claim the girls phone was off when they got the knock but what that girl said years ago to me fits my experiences 100%. I think the girl starts the calling / knocks on door.
Outside the club is a whole different thing. Had a girl spend the night with me for free once. She just wanted a night away. Other girls want $500 dollars for the night. There are many offers in between. Basically I pay for each sex session. Maybe the whole night she stays but the rate I pay is each time we have sex. Guys want more sex for less money. Girls want more money for less sex. Play the game best you can. If you get lucky and find a loca who wants sex all night keep her number and keep her happy because you know other guys will be too.
If someone is a good planner it is actually better deal to fly a girl in from a different city. Have had an out of town girl want $5000 pesos for 2 day visit. I paid for flight but she had no extra bags so was not much. I have done this for multiple girls from Monterrey and a few other cities. CDMX has a lot of girls. I met two in a very short visit there. One was my holiday loca for nearly 2 years.Are you using like FB or Seeking or Mexican Cupid to find these girls in Monterrey and the DF?
Some girls I met in Hong Kong and kept in contact with. A few from other clubs but mostly HK. If I meet a girl I like I try to get her number and keep in contact. Tijuana girls are the most convenient but always ask for the most $$ It is better to develop chemistry with girl from further away and fly her in. These flights do not cost much if one plans well.
Have also used Seeking Arrangement. It was a while ago. Met a few girls in CDMX this way. Unfortunately I was not there long because I could have packed my calendar full of girls from CDMX. Also met some girls on SA from Monterrey. Met some from Tijuana on SA but they asked me for more than club girls do.
These forums have sections for these different cities.
One thing I have learned over the years is there are girls all over Mexico needing money and willing to do sex work for it. I am sure there are many options out there I am not aware of. I am not a good looking guy nor am I good with spanish. I can get by with spanish but many times need to use translator. Still learning some of the common slang / short words these girls use.
I think they sense I am a good guy they can trust. I treat them with respect.
Guys will come on the forums talking about the success stories but there are many I filter out at the club. Maybe they not honest. Maybe weird things happen that trigger my monger sense. Some girls are fun upstairs but never make it to outside the club fun. Sometimes it is the girls decision.
Are you using like FB or Seeking or Mexican Cupid to find these girls in Monterrey and the DF?
KenjiYoshioka
03-30-25, 19:00
Some girls I met in Hong Kong and kept in contact with. A few from other clubs but mostly HK. If I meet a girl I like I try to get her number and keep in contact. Tijuana girls are the most convenient but always ask for the most $$ It is better to develop chemistry with girl from further away and fly her in. These flights do not cost much if one plans well.
Have also used Seeking Arrangement. It was a while ago. Met a few girls in CDMX this way. Unfortunately I was not there long because I could have packed my calendar full of girls from CDMX. Also met some girls on SA from Monterrey. Met some from Tijuana on SA but they asked me for more than club girls do.
These forums have sections for these different cities.
One thing I have learned over the years is there are girls all over Mexico needing money and willing to do sex work for it. I am sure there are many options out there I am not aware of. I am not a good looking guy nor am I good with spanish. I can get by with spanish but many times need to use translator. Still learning some of the common slang / short words these girls use..Is SA not how you are finding these girls now?
Is SA not how you are finding these girls now?I probably would not pay to turn SA on again unless I went back to CDMX or Monterrey. I think it still could be used to find girls all over.
The club is probably the best place to meet girls. It is why my wingmen and I spent good amounts of money in the club on drinks. The girls are the most essential part, but they need a place to go.
LuvMexicanas
04-06-25, 21:59
I probably would not pay to turn SA on again unless I went back to CDMX or Monterrey. I think it still could be used to find girls all over.
The club is probably the best place to meet girls. It is why my wingmen and I spent good amounts of money in the club on drinks. The girls are the most essential part, but they need a place to go.Tinder works best for me as long as the metro search area has at least a quarter million population. There are so many nice girls in Tijuana and across Mexico who relish a good time. Sure, some will want money to cover the cost of a babysitter, taxi, etc but many don't expect a single peso, just dinner, drinks and a good fuck such as this one below.
Are there chicas available in late mornings, say 10 AM or later?
Thanks.
Are there chicas available in late mornings, say 10 AM or later?.You know the amazing thing about this forum is that most questions you have asked are already answered. I understand not wanting to read back hundreds of pages but in your case you just had to take the time to read a few pages back for your answer.
ABAJoeSmith123
04-07-25, 18:45
Are you certain she was not fking Indians in the club while you were paying her?That's a very good point. Maybe she wasn't going as frequently but it's possible she was still going all this time LOL. Fckkkk.
I've read the reports. I've talked to girls. I'm just not understanding the $150 price. The place has a lot of customers but few clients is what I hear. As a result, these girls are raising prices to make up for having less clients (common Brasil terma logic from back in the day). Others are saying that so many gringos want girls with fake tits and BBLs that the price went up as more girls are paying for this surgery. I'm headed there in a week for a 10-day stay but what I'm reading makes me second guess this visit. No way I'm paying this in Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, not even Germany FKKs. Hell, the paraditas seem like a better choice than HK girls. This price point puts Tijuana, mexico as one of the highest riced places in the world for SW, up there with the USA and Japan.
If I'm reading things wrong, please correct me.
MongerHunger
04-08-25, 16:54
I've read the reports. I've talked to girls. I'm just not understanding the $150 price. The place has a lot of customers but few clients is what I hear. As a result, these girls are raising prices to make up for having less clients (common Brasil terma logic from back in the day). Others are saying that so many gringos want girls with fake tits and BBLs that the price went up as more girls are paying for this surgery. I'm headed there in a week for a 10-day stay but what I'm reading makes me second guess this visit. No way I'm paying this in Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, not even Germany FKKs. Hell, the paraditas seem like a better choice than HK girls. This price point puts Tijuana, mexico as one of the highest riced places in the world for SW, up there with the USA and Japan.
If I'm reading things wrong, please correct me.A lot of girls will still accept $100 USD at HK but if you are willing to pay them $150 USD I'm sure they won't turn it down.
I've read the reports. I've talked to girls. I'm just not understanding the $150 price. The place has a lot of customers but few clients is what I hear. As a result, these girls are raising prices to make up for having less clients (common Brasil terma logic from back in the day). Others are saying that so many gringos want girls with fake tits and BBLs that the price went up as more girls are paying for this surgery. I'm headed there in a week for a 10-day stay but what I'm reading makes me second guess this visit. No way I'm paying this in Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, not even Germany FKKs. Hell, the paraditas seem like a better choice than HK girls. This price point puts Tijuana, mexico as one of the highest riced places in the world for SW, up there with the USA and Japan.
If I'm reading things wrong, please correct me.The girls you pay $150 are usually those who give you a starfish service with bad attitude. Those who accept $100 will treat you much better. Make this a formula.
LuvMexicanas
04-08-25, 21:13
I've read the reports. I've talked to girls. I'm just not understanding the $150 price. The place has a lot of customers but few clients is what I hear. As a result, these girls are raising prices to make up for having less clients (common Brasil terma logic from back in the day). Others are saying that so many gringos want girls with fake tits and BBLs that the price went up as more girls are paying for this surgery. I'm headed there in a week for a 10-day stay but what I'm reading makes me second guess this visit. No way I'm paying this in Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, not even Germany FKKs. Hell, the paraditas seem like a better choice than HK girls. This price point puts Tijuana, mexico as one of the highest riced places in the world for SW, up there with the USA and Japan.
If I'm reading things wrong, please correct me.Avoid making the mistake that HK is Tijuana. The mongering scene in Tijuana is so much wider and deeper than HK or the entire Zona Norte for that matter.
Avoid making the mistake that HK is Tijuana. The mongering scene in Tijuana is so much wider and deeper than HK or the entire Zona Norte for that matter.Well from previous posts he supposedly knows Tijuana well and has been to bars outside the Zona and was going to visit others 2 years ago but he never writes any reports on things which always makes me suspicious.
I also have never heard anyone say that the customers in HK prefer fake girls. HK is full of spinners because that is what a majority of the customers want.
Just to add on to the discussion, don't just go around asking for quotes in HK. Talk to the girls for a little bit and then ask if they will go upstairs for $100. From my experiences, half the time they will say yes. Some might say it's not enough, but will accept $120. Very few will stand firm at 140/150. Which if they do, just move onto the next if that's too high for you. Sometimes you guys act like we're forced to pay these prices. Also don't just stick to HK. Go do some rounds of Chicago and Tropical where the girls are a lot more reasonable and open to fair offers.
Sometimes I'll just go off of vibes and will take them arriba without any discussion of money. If the session goes good I give them $120.
I think I have only had one girl, maybe two, ever ask for a little more after giving her that. If the session is bad (super rare) or mediocre I give them $100. The only time this was ever an issue was at Adelitas and I asked for a manager to step in and he surprisingly sided with me.
I also forgot to mention that with the peso continuing to fall to the dollar you will spend less paying in pesos because most girls might be quicker to accept 2000 pesos instead of you asking for $100.
The girls you pay $150 are usually those who give you a starfish service with bad attitude. Those who accept $100 will treat you much better. Make this a formula.Are the girls who charge $150 hotter than those who charge $100?
MongerHunger
04-09-25, 16:17
Are the girls who charge $150 hotter than those who charge $100?I wouldn't advise paying $150 USD in HK, especially if it's a dead fish / starfish in bed. (Good looking or not) Don't waste your money on poor service. $100 USD is enough to get you a descent chica that will provide good unrushed service. A lot of guys don't even have any game with women so they pay absorbent amounts to make up for their lack of self confidence and social skills.
MongerHunger
04-09-25, 16:28
I also forgot to mention that with the peso continuing to fall to the dollar you will spend less paying in pesos because most girls might be quicker to accept 2000 pesos instead of you asking for $100.This is a great idea and has been discussed before. Also when the exchange rate is more than 20 MXN pesos per $1 USD I use 20 peso bills for tipping. Yes, the chicas will accept pesos for payment. The average base rate for paraditas now is 300 MXN. Some will quote in dollars but I don't play that game.
LuvMexicanas
04-09-25, 17:23
Are the girls who charge $150 hotter than those who charge $100?Certainly in their minds they believe so.
Returned Saturday from 3 days in Tijuana. With me was my wingman FB and my Sugar Baby (she'll go unnamed). I just made 71, tall and fit, she's 33 and petite with long strawberry blond hair. Arrived in San Diego around 4:30 pm, Uber to the border crossing, no problem there. Checked into Rizo across from Club Hong Kong, got situated in our room and took a quick stroll through the club to give her a sense of what to expect. Wingman FB) had an escort from outside the club coming (GoodGirls), so she and I grabbed dinner and waited for him to join us. Back to the room to freshen up and then on to the club. Things were starting to heat up at the club by now, so I walked around, checked out the dancers, other ladies standing around, and finally settled in on the second level to watch the soap show. For the uninitiated, the soap shows consist of 2 ladies, completely naked, sitting and laying on the stage and playing. Lots of shaving cream, dildo play, girl on girl oral, etc. You can sit up front and feel the ladies up, rub pussy and tits, some allow you to finger, etc. Tips ($1) are expected. I couldn't get my girl to participate in touching or tipping. She doesn't like the attention, so she insisted that I do the aforementioned. My SB is Bi-sexual, not in a butch sort of way, more mildly "tomboyish". She has the body of a teenager, cute face and a quiet personality. Spent quite a while watching the 2 ladies on the stage and she took a shine to the smaller girl. Well, once they finished, I invited the girl to come sit with us. She took off to shower and clean up and was back to see us.
The girl didn't speak much English, but I was able to arrange for her to come to the room with us for 150 (for 1 hour and went over), and play with us as a couple. That went really well, SB (Sugar Baby) is very cautious about the exchange of fluids. All penetration by me and BJ was covered. SB loved rubbing and suckling the girl's tits, and especially when the girl went down on her and ate out her pussy. At one point, SB was on top of me while I ate her out with the other girl on my cock in CG. A really awesome first time experience for the both of us! It's getting close to midnight, and the girl has left. Too tired to shower, so she collapses into my naked body in bed and we sleep in peace until around 8:00 in the morning.
Thursday morning, we're up, shower and freshen up, and climb into bed for a very pleasing session. Then head down for breakfast. We ate just about every meal at Sende Norte, which is attached to the Rizo de Oro hotel where we stayed. The food is incredible, maybe even gourmet. Plentiful food, fresh, attractive plating. While not fancy when you're in the dining room, the meals are outstanding. We then take a walk around the area we're in, checking on the tourist areas near the "arch. " Not many people out, and certainly not many Americans. Only saw a few the whole time we were there. BF is in the process of seeing another escort, so SB and I head up to the room for an amazing session, just the 2 of us this time. When she orgasims, she is usually wasted for a couple hours, so we both lay back and nap for an hour or so. By this time, we hook up with FB and head down for dinner before heading over to Hong Kong. We hang out in the club for a couple hours with FB, he eventually finds something to his liking, and takes her up to his room. My girl and I are having trouble finding a girl that is to both of our liking, that is also open to a 3-some. FYI, for me a 3-some is me and 2 chicks, and the chicks have to play with each other as well as me. I finally asked a waiter if he knew any girls that would be interested. He brings us to a private booth overlooking the back bar and stage and says he'll bring someone up. He quotes a crazy amount, and I explain that we only want a girl to bring back to our room. He takes us back to the floor and introduces us to a girl that we both are okay with, and he starts again with some crazy numbers. I finally tell the girl what we want and that we are not interested in buying buckets of beer in order to seal the deal, just want to go to our room and play with her. She shoos him away, and we head over to our hotel. Not as good of a session as with the first girl, but still very satisfying. SB enjoyed watching me fuck her and she really like the girls pussy. The girl ran a timer, so we only spent 30 minutes in the room with her. After she left, went down on my girl until she convulsed into a deep sleep.
Day 3, Friday. FB and I have been wanting to take a ride to Rosarito Beach for several years, and SB was down for it. She put on her bikini and damn she looked good, but too cold to wear it outside. Got a taxi and rode over after breakfast. About a 35 minute ride, very disappointing. If you've ever experienced the Florida Gulf coast, then you'll be disappointed as well. First off, it was cold, windy, a light, intermittent sprinkle, but more disgusting, it smelled! Horses on the beach for rent and riding, which means horse shit on the beach. Apparently no need to clean up, and the next high tide will wash it away,yuck! Also, what smelled like open sewage running down a couple streets in the direction of the beach. Don't bother going here for the beach. I read somewhere recently that Rosarita Beach is the most polluted beach in Mexico. Well, obviously we didn't stay long and caught a taxi back to the Zona. It's getting a little later in the day, and I always wanted to go to Caesar's Restaurant a few blocks over. If you've ever had a Caesar Salad, this is where it originated. So my girl and I had a nice meal away from the Zona. Head back to the hotel and she had been looking at a treatment in a spa near the hotel and I told her I would treat her to it. Head back to the room to relax, give her a rub / massage with some body lotion, which devolves into another hot session with her. Later in the evening we head back to HK for a couple drinks and watch the strippers on the back stage. The "exclusive" Miami annex is open and we wander over to watch a lesbian show on that stage, walk the club a bit and finally settle down on the back stage again. SB had already told me that she is done for the trip and just wants to watch, so I should pick out someone to my liking. The next girl up on the stage is a pretty Hispanic girl, tall with an amazing body. When she finishes, I approach and ask her to come to the room with us. I explain that my girl will only watch. The girl is a bit confused, but agrees to come with us. In the room, SB quickly strips and changes into her nightgown and climbs on the bed with me and the club girl. The girl is intrigued and giggles, but rolls with it. We chatted her up some, she's 20 and from south of Mexico City, been in the club for a couple weeks, no boyfriend, no children, very little English. I fuck her in a couple of positions while my girl watches. Her tits are spectacular and we both compliment her, she thanks us and I tell SB to show her her tit. No problem, she lifts her shirt and they compare. Both are divine! My girl likes the look of her pussy and again, we both compliment her on how pretty it is. Time for a comparison. LOL! This girl was in the room for about an hour and it was fun, 150.
Well that was about it for Tijuana. We crash and get up early to try and avoid the crowd at the border. Catch the HK shuttle to Ped East, which is not the one we usually go to. Almost no one there, and are through with no trouble in no time. Last time we were in line for over an hour before reaching customs.
In conclusion, my girl and I talked about the experience and agreed that it was fun and something off of both of our bucket lists. However, we don't think we'll do it again. If we are able to travel like this again, we would like it to be just the 2 of us. We could have all the sex we want, without other distractions. The 3-somes with an unknown person is not what she would really prefer, rather one with someone that has a relationship with her and I. We'll see about that! Anyway, a memorable trip with a truly sweet person! Also, FB commented that the 2 HK girls that he saw all quoted 150, but for an hour. We both were staying at Rize, so that could be a factor.
The increased prices is not new. Before Covid I would find girls asking 150 and even 200.
Let me say I have a method. I ask certain questions. I do certain things. I read how they react. For the most part I keep to the $100-120. With that said I have given $150 to the right locas. I will tip even more upstairs if they earned it. My favorite in Jan / Feb 2025 was willing to go upstairs for $100. Cut young tight body and super fun upstairs. I would give her $400 for entire night and she would tell me that is a lot of money LOL.
Meanwhile I look at much older girls with bodies I do not particularly appreciate who want $200 for 30 minutes. Maybe girls I do like but all the results of my reading tell me they will be a dead fish and they want $150. I obviously pass on those girls.
There is a lot I think goes into this. Basically girls asking and if you want to negotiate than do so. There are hundreds of girls working any given night, find another one. I know locals still claim to get girls at $80. I know I got offered $80 twice in 2025.
I've read the reports. I've talked to girls. I'm just not understanding the $150 price. The place has a lot of customers but few clients is what I hear. As a result, these girls are raising prices to make up for having less clients (common Brasil terma logic from back in the day). Others are saying that so many gringos want girls with fake tits and BBLs that the price went up as more girls are paying for this surgery. I'm headed there in a week for a 10-day stay but what I'm reading makes me second guess this visit. No way I'm paying this in Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, not even Germany FKKs. Hell, the paraditas seem like a better choice than HK girls. This price point puts Tijuana, mexico as one of the highest riced places in the world for SW, up there with the USA and Japan.
If I'm reading things wrong, please correct me.
The beaches in general at this area are not good if you been the Miami / Key West / Cancun type places. By this area I mean for about 100 miles in either direction with few exceptions but even the exceptions not as good as the other places you and I mentioned. I have good memories of great times in various San Diego beaches but bottom line is none of them compare to what I have seen in the Key West and Yucatán Peninsula. Rosarito shines with the nightlife on Friday / Saturday in Summer months. I had a wild weekend there last summer. There are a couple girl bars in Rosarito but nothing like Zona Nortre.
The seafood is better on this side of the continent though. Again some exceptions but for the most part. Encanto Restaurante 15 minutes south of Rosarito has some of the best seafood I have tasted.
Great details on rest of report.
Getting a waiter involved to get you a girl will always involve getting beer, or wine, and probably by the bucket. It is the main way a waiter makes their $. My wingman has had good experiences with the girls waiters bring but I never do. I prefer to find my own. I have gotten very good with my filters at picking out good ones.
Day 3, Friday. FB and I have been wanting to take a ride to Rosarito Beach for several years, and SB was down for it. She put on her bikini and damn she looked good, but too cold to wear it outside. Got a taxi and rode over after breakfast. About a 35 minute ride, very disappointing. If you've ever experienced the Florida Gulf coast, then you'll be disappointed as well. First off, it was cold, windy, a light, intermittent sprinkle, but more disgusting, it smelled! Horses on the beach for rent and riding, which means horse shit on the beach. Apparently no need to clean up, and the next high tide will wash it away,yuck! Also, what smelled like open sewage running down a couple streets in the direction of the beach. Don't bother going here for the beach. I read somewhere recently that Rosarita Beach is the most polluted beach in Mexico. Well, obviously we didn't stay long and caught a taxi back to the Zona. It's getting a little later in the day, and I always wanted to go to Caesar's Restaurant
The n00 BS may be getting sucked into paying $150 because there are legit 10's in the club. For me I would rather get exceptional service from a 7, maybe 8, than dead fish 10.
Another thing I avoid is the wine crap. Cost way more and the girl drinks it sometimes faster than a beer. I do not care how much I liked her up to that point, if she wants a wine I leave.
There are typically hundreds of girls working when I am there. I will find another one.
I wouldn't advise paying $150 USD in HK, especially if it's a dead fish / starfish in bed. (Good looking or not) Don't waste your money on poor service. $100 USD is enough to get you a descent chica that will provide good unrushed service. A lot of guys don't even have any game with women so they pay absorbent amounts to make up for their lack of self confidence and social skills.
MongerHunger
04-10-25, 07:41
Another thing I avoid is the wine crap. Cost way more and the girl drinks it sometimes faster than a beer. I do not care how much I liked her up to that point, if she wants a wine I leave.
There are typically hundreds of girls working when I am there. I will find another one.Oh yeah, the wine trick. I took this picture in front of HK. Them chicas probably ordered wine all night long. The Gringo Hustle. LOL.
Returned Saturday from 3 days in Tijuana. With me was my wingman FB and my Sugar Baby (she'll go unnamed). I just made 71, tall and fit, she's 33 and petite with long strawberry blond hair.Thanks for sharing.
I must admit that reading your story made me think that SNL could do a skit but instead of Sugar Baby's they could be Dirty Baby's. Unlike how you normally think of SB being with older guys that can provide them with a luxury lifestyle these are DB that have very low expectations and think that going to places like the Zona Norte and staying in 2 star hotels is a better life than what they are used to. Heck they could make into a movie even. LOL.
Returned Saturday from 3 days in Tijuana. With me was my wingman FB and my Sugar Baby (she'll go unnamed)......Very good report. Appreciated.
LuvMexicanas
04-11-25, 05:21
Oh yeah, the wine trick. I took this picture in front of HK. Them chicas probably ordered wine all night long. The Gringo Hustle. LOL.The comical thing is Riunite to wine is what Meister Brau is to beer. Fucking horrible. I still remember as a small child the commercial jingle from the 80's "Riunite on ice, that's nice".
StubbornMule
04-11-25, 06:20
Returned Saturday from 3 days in Tijuana. With me was my wingman FB and my Sugar Baby...Great report, Rex. A few questions: why do you stay in Rizo instead of Cascadas? Do you think girls charge more when they learn that you are across the street? Also, if you don't mind me asking: how much is your SB's allowance? How did you meet?
Avoid making the mistake that HK is Tijuana. The mongering scene in Tijuana is so much wider and deeper than HK or the entire Zona Norte for that matter.Not everyone can do escorts or Tinder. I, for one, need to see the merchandise before I buy. I am very particular in terms of type, and meeting a girl online, there is a high chance that they will be unsatisfactory. I like HK exactly for the reason that you can take your time and observe the women there for a bit before making your selection.
Well from previous posts he supposedly knows Tijuana well and has been to bars outside the Zona and was going to visit others 2 years ago but he never writes any reports on things which always makes me suspicious.
I also have never heard anyone say that the customers in HK prefer fake girls. HK is full of spinners because that is what a majority of the customers want.I have been to Tijuana several times. I come from Chicago, so I'm not the usual California hop the border all the time guy. If you search my screen name, you will see that I have written many reports about many places over the decades. Stop the BS with being suspicious of everyone that you don't recognize. LMAO at full of spinners vs fake girls. You can open a silicone factory with all the plastic in that place. If you haven't heard that HK has too many fake girls, that's because you're deaf and not listening.
I will be there this Monday for two weeks. If I see something that's new, I'll post. Siete de Copas is now open with the construction finished, and it's away from the hustle and bustle. It's also owned by HK, so it should've good. Their instagram seems pretty active lately. Also this week is Cubs v Padres in San Diego, Tijuana Toros baseball opening weekend, and Taco Fest. Should be a good time to be down there!
I have been to Tijuana several times. I come from Chicago, so I'm not the usual California hop the border all the time guy. If you search my screen name, you will see that I have written many reports about many places over the decades. Stop the BS with being suspicious of everyone that you don't recognize. LMAO at full of spinners vs fake girls. You can open a silicone factory with all the plastic in that place. If you haven't heard that HK has too many fake girls, that's because you're deaf and not listening.
I will be there this Monday for two weeks. If I see something that's new, I'll post. Siete de Copas is now open with the construction finished, and it's away from the hustle and bustle. It's also owned by HK, so it should've good. Their instagram seems pretty active lately. Also this week is Cubs v Padres in San Diego, Tijuana Toros baseball opening weekend, and Taco Fest. Should be a good time to be down there!Well I was responding to what another poster commented on and him saying that Tijuana had more to offer than just HK. I was just pointing out to him that I had read your previous posts and you supposedly have spent time in other bars. I'm suspicious by nature especially on public boards like this because any loser can come on here and pretend to know things just for the attention. Also my suspicions about you only had to do with Tijuana because you haven't posted any real information or reports on your visits. I understand not everyone is like many on this board to live close and be such a frequent visitor but lots of guys travel from long distances and will contribute what they can and since you speak Spanish I would think you have better conversations with girls then most here.
The most famous person on this board is suspicious of every guy he meets until he sees that guy go with a girl. I didn't respond to your post directly because I had so many questions and figured that you probably wouldn't respond due to some questions being to personal which I understand.
Since you brought it up I will comment on your post next.
I've read the reports. I've talked to girls. I'm just not understanding the $150 price. The place has a lot of customers but few clients is what I hear. As a result, these girls are raising prices to make up for having less clients (common Brasil terma logic from back in the day). Others are saying that so many gringos want girls with fake tits and BBLs that the price went up as more girls are paying for this surgery. I'm headed there in a week for a 10-day stay but what I'm reading makes me second guess this visit. No way I'm paying this in Cuba, Colombia, Brazil, not even Germany FKKs. Hell, the paraditas seem like a better choice than HK girls. This price point puts Tijuana, mexico as one of the highest riced places in the world for SW, up there with the USA and Japan.
If I'm reading things wrong, please correct me.Well as others have pointed out very few girls are firm in the $150. So I'm not sure what reports you speak of and when the last time you talked to a girl in HK. Not sure who is telling you about this lots of customers but few clients so they have to charge more. If they need money they will take less and if they have decided to have sex with guys for money some will only do so at a certain price but I disagree with what the girls are telling you but you can believe what you want.
Now you say a girls have also told you that "gringos" prefer fake girls so they need to charge more to get the surgery. That has to be one of the dumbest things to believe that has come out of a chicas mouth. A large amount of HK customers are looking for spinners, which is why HK has so many. I didn't say that HK doesn't have fake girls but they cater to a different clientele. If you spend much time in HK you can see this. That was one of the things that made AB different and if guys preferred fake girls AB would have been packed but it wasn't.
So I don't know why you knowingly go to Tijuana, especially for so long, when you are aware of the higher costs. And the SG have always been a better option for cheap sex compared to HK girls.
Look forward to your trip reports on your long visit.
AmericanPi
04-12-25, 16:39
I have been to Tijuana several times. I come from Chicago, so I'm not the usual California hop the border all the time guy. If you search my screen name, you will see that I have written many reports about many places over the decades. Stop the BS with being suspicious of everyone that you don't recognize. LMAO at full of spinners vs fake girls. You can open a silicone factory with all the plastic in that place. If you haven't heard that HK has too many fake girls, that's because you're deaf and not listening.
I will be there this Monday for two weeks. If I see something that's new, I'll post. Siete de Copas is now open with the construction finished, and it's away from the hustle and bustle. It's also owned by HK, so it should've good. Their instagram seems pretty active lately. Also this week is Cubs v Padres in San Diego, Tijuana Toros baseball opening weekend, and Taco Fest. Should be a good time to be down there!I hope you mean you're going to San Diego for 2 weeks and not Tijuana for 2 weeks.
LuvMexicanas
04-12-25, 18:33
Not everyone can do escorts or Tinder. I, for one, need to see the merchandise before I buy. I am very particular in terms of type, and meeting a girl online, there is a high chance that they will be unsatisfactory. I like HK exactly for the reason that you can take your time and observe the women there for a bit before making your selection.I never said he should do escorts or Tinder. To each his own in terms of how to get down. I was just giving the OP advice not to conflate Hong Kong with Tijuana. Think of Tijuana as a taco stand. Hong Kong is a big player in the mongering scene obviously so think of it as the carne asada taco. However, there are lots of different tacos such as adobada, lengua, cabeza, birria, costilla, chorizo, tripas, camaron, pescado and I could go on and on.
Not everyone can do escorts or Tinder. I, for one, need to see the merchandise before I buy. I am very particular in terms of type, and meeting a girl online, there is a high chance that they will be unsatisfactory. I like HK exactly for the reason that you can take your time and observe the women there for a bit before making your selection.This is the fundamental point people don't realize. What is mentioned here is extremely important to many of us. Online escorting works only if a well established, trusted verification and review process is in place. To the most part, there is none. In fact it is you, the paying monger, who is verified with the likes of Seeking Arrangement which is facking joke of a place. Compare this to what HK and other sex clubs provide, they are an excellent and fair sexual market places, none can replace. We can talk about price hikes, mistreatment and cheating but these are not fundamental service model issues.
It's easy to become spoiled living near Tijuana. We mustn't forget how fortunate we are to live a nice life in a first world nation, and have weekly access to hot young girls for affordable prices. I hear a lot of guys constantly griping about the price, but it's still really not much more than the cost of a dinner date in the US, if you think about it. And, you are getting a girl that you problably won't be getting in the US, at least not without substantially more effort (and headache).
There aren't many places in the world where you can have the best of both worlds, so to speak. In fact, I really can't think of any. I mean, I know there is SE Asia and FKK Clubs, etc. But do you really want to live in Germany or Thailand long term? Yes, So Cal is expensive, but we are very blessed in this respect.
I stay in Rizo because this is where I've always stayed. My first time coming was with my wingman that had been once before. He tried getting a room in Cascadas, but there weren't any. Rizo was his second choice. We both like that it is not right on top of HK. We hear that the foot traffic and noise can be a distraction. We've never stayed at Cascadas, so just from hearing this on this board. FYI, Rizo is above Tropical, so the noise can still be a factor depending upon where your room is located. From my experiece, there is no difference in what the girls ask. I usually negotiate the rate, then show them my Rizo wrist band, and away we go. My SB allowance is 300 per visit. I have to get a room and we usually send a couple hours together. We met on Seeking 5 years ago and our relationship is something more that a PPM. We actually like each other, she has a Daddy fetish, so there is that. LOL! I was fortunate to meet her, as she was only on Seeking for a brief time after her divorce. She was in another relationship, but that never took hold. We both agree that whatever other relationship (s) either of us might enter into, we like the special arrangement that we have and hope to continue it for a while.
Great report, Rex. A few questions: why do you stay in Rizo instead of Cascadas? Do you think girls charge more when they learn that you are across the street? Also, if you don't mind me asking: how much is your SB's allowance? How did you meet?
I have noticed a lot of cocaine in Rosarito and Tijuana since July 2024. It is in the bathrooms at Rosarito clubs and I have seen multiple girls buying it from waiters in Zona clubs.
The police action in Tijuana has gotten very aggressive. They even come into the Zona Norte now. The 90s and early 2000s were bad before the clean up but I have never seen anything like what I have seen so far in 2025.
In the cab ride from the border there was a police check point on the way to HK. They stopped the cab and searched our bags. This police officer seemed normal, not on drugs. We had no drugs so we were allowed to go after the search. This was Feb 2025 ish.
Right next to HK two police officers definately on cocaine stopped me while walking. I was drunk but had no drugs on me. They emptied the money from my monger wallet. Later I noticed they kept $50. This was also 2025.
I was stopped next to parking structure by the ally on other side of block from HK not far from Chicago. Again complete search, money taken out of container. This time I kept track and kept all my money. These two were also on cocaine.
Was driving in Zona and got stopped. Two more police on cocaine. Searched everything. I did not have drugs so got away no money taken.
I have been stopped in my car near zona before. It has been some years. Never before have I seen police stopped people inside the Zona. Must be the cocaine giving new revenue making ideas.
Do not have drugs in Tijuana. This includes weed. You will definately lose money and may go to jail.
I want to start off with saying I went to Tijuana for the first time and did my research and tried to keep an open mind but I do prefer south american girls / european to central american girls.
SP is my favorite place and so it comes from that perspective.
First time in Tijuana and like I told the border official entering back to the states, my last time.
I've been to other places like Berlin, Barcelona, Montreal, GT City, SP / Rio and I have to rank Tijuana as the lowest just behind GT City.
Flew to san diego from the east coast Thursday morning. Took an uber to the border but if you know the lay of the land you can take the trolley down there and save a few bucks. Was $40 uber from SAN to the border.
Trolley would be like $3.
Crossed the border pretty easily and fast.
Took a taxi from there to my hotel.
Stayed in grand one plaza hotel. Was pretty nice and had big rooms and girls can come in freely. Has a nice rooftop bar and lounge area. No pool.
Called a girl over from good girls named mesi.
Looked good on pics. She arrived a bit late but I took a nap from my flight so all good. She was just a bit more big from her pics. A few more stretched marks but overall it was her.
She was a bit awkward and it started off a bit slow. I think she blew me with a condom or maybe not, can't remember but it was pretty bad regardless since I can't remember.
Used my condoms and the damn thing broke. I wondered why it felt better LOL.
Went to change it and it was just an ok session. She couldn't really get into doggystyle position for some reason. It was like she was new but I doubt that.
$125.
My wingman from Cali showed up after and we got some food and headed to the clubs.
TROPICAL
Pretty nice. Has three floors. Pretty decent amount of girls. Has a soap area on the first floor, second floor has like a live band / bar area and third floor has a stripper pole area.
No cover and the girls here seemed the most chill.
Took a girl here on a Friday night and seemed like it was going to go ok.
Went to the room for $120 and $40 for the room.
After a quick shower she said she wanted to do a CBJ since she wanted to keep her health in check and then proceeded to poke a hole into two baby wipes to put around my dick.
I immediately called it off and told her I'm leaving and not paying because this was absurd.
That was the only time I tried that club and left for good.
CHICAGO CLUB
Only one floor but pretty spacious.
Walked around and it was the least populated from the three clubs.
Smoking area on the side.
Had a hot tub where girls would do a little show and there was like 2 or 3 stripper poles.
Didn't really see anything I liked.
Talked to one girl.
Said she was new to the place.
Only worked a week but she wanted 200 for 1 HR or 150 for half.
Tried to negotiate but she only went down $10.
Left for Hong Kong but decided to come back real quick after I left HK late and she was still there.
Didn't seem anyone else took her offer so decided to give her another shot.
No go and tried to get her number but she said she didn't give it out until a guy goes up first.
She then asked if I was just going to keep wasting her time to go with the other 0 guys who were interested in her LOL.
This place was also a dud.
Last but not least.
HONG KONG
Went to this place all three nights I was there (Thursday-Saturday).
The most promising but this place is a vibe killer and is just so close to being great.
My main complaints like the rest of Tijuana clubs in general is the all cash aspect. I hate having to take out ones or break down my bills to smaller bills. Plus the fucking tipping is out of fucking control.
Everyone in these clubs want a fucking tip.
I was about to pull down my pants and let them suck my tip towards the end if they wanted it so bad.
I don't understand why they can't just make you a tab or have a bracelet or something like that like they do in SP or Rio and pay your tab when you leave with a card or cash with a discount.
The place is too fucking loud as well. You can barely talk to a girl and once you do you have to pay for her drink to do so. In SP / Rio they have quieter places you can chat a girl with and just hang out.
I must have talked to 6-8 girls and all but two would give me a BBBJ. It was insane. They all had the same line saying that the club wouldn't allow it and they were looking out for their health.
I gave them a tip and told them then don't fuck random guys for money for a living.
First girl was a neat looking redhead (fake but whatever) green eyes and decent body. Her head game was like 30 seconds of sucking and then putting a condom on.
The sex was like a routine she does with pre determined intervals. She was a bit thin so she said I couldn't really man handle her or slap her ass. It was like fucking a sex robot with 5 minute intervals for each positions. No passion, just mechanical.
2nd girl was a bit better but was CBJ.
MILF with black hair, short and kinda white. Started off pretty strong but then her period blood came out and just stopped the whole thing.
Took a quick shower and see if it kept going but it didn't so that was weird. She then proceeded to put her fingers around the base of the condom to keep it in place the whole time and I kept telling her that she was scratching my balls with her long fake fingernails. I had to physically move her hand away a few times until she got the message that I was ready to leave if she didn't stop.
Finished up and it was the most decent so far in HK even with all the BS.
$100.
3rd girl was fun.
Black hair, pale and much younger. Looked italian.
Talked a bit and flipped a coin for 120 or 140.
I won at 120. We headed upstairs and had to use the ATM. $15 fee to get my money out.
Her head game was the best out of all the girls in Tijuana but really is the standard anywhere else tbh.
No fuss and all fun. Had a nice time and overall was the best girl I had there. If more girls were like this then I would be pretty good with the trip but this was the last girl for the trip.
HK girls think they are hot shit but its like being the biggest fish in a pond. Attitude here is pretty wack.
Another thing I didn't like was that the girls could keep their phones and half of them would be on it at all times. This is another aspect that Brazil gets right. Girls can't have their phones while out. Keeps them engaged.
Customer service is pretty shit too. I ask the door guy at HK a question and he just shouted at my friend and I too keep moving like he was in a damn hurry. Then he wanted a tip when we came back later LOL.
Called another girl from mustaj or something like that named fatima.
Came on time.
Had to get her from the lobby.
She looked pretty cute but was def too shy for this. Maybe she was new?
Felt like the most awkward virgin sex with one of the most horrendous handjob / blowjob I ever had. It was so odd it's hard to explain.
Went to doggy and she had a smell that hit my nose that made me lose my arousal. She went to take a shower after she entered the room so idk how she smelled. Finished up fast after that.
$125.
Tried seeking and saw one girl. She was a white ish looking girl. Dyed redhead, 5 ft.
She was very new and was the first guy she met.
She was very shy about the whole thing so went to the rooftop bar and had a drink first. She wanted $200 but told her $100 was the max and she said that was ok.
Got to the room and we went at it after a quick shower.
BJ was quick. She liked to kiss and grind. Put on a condom and went to pound town. Mixing it up with some kisses and hard fucks. Was the most passionate.
Had a great time and ended up giving her $135. She was happy and that was that.
Headed back to the border and that took like 35 mins.
Trolley to SAN was easy. $3.
Overall Tijuana was just not it.
I would gladly fly an extra 4 hrs and pay like $25-50 more for a hotter girl (for my taste) with better passionate fucking and customer service in Brazil.
I would compared these clubs to casarao in SP. Casarao is like $10 to enter with a drink and $6 without. Monday nights they have free bbq. Girls can be had for like $50 hh to like $90 HR.
Overnight would be like $120-200.
Theres a good mix of girls from scandallo (high end club) and random newbies that want to make a quick buck. So you will find pros next to GND.
People at the door are always friendly and helpful. There are quite places to have a convo. And the girls have much better body figures.
HK does have a policy that if a girl gets too fat or big then she can't enter anymore.
But the real tragedy is that most of the girls had flat asses. Some girls had some real fake BBLs but very few had a nice shapely ass. Most girls in Tijuana and even HK would look better if they all just went to the gym a few times a week and lost like 10 pounds. Brazilian genetics are something else because even the petite GNDs I like had nice asses no matter if they were short or skinny or went to the gym at all. Plus you have a great mix of redhead, blondes, japanese and black girls. Seeking is also really good over there.
To me it's not worth the hassle to go to the west coast and cross a border and deal with bills for a mediocre experience. it has all the worst aspects of an american strip club and all of the crudeness meixco is known for. It's ok I guess if you want a quick fuck and you like the average look of mexican girls but if you want something better I would just go to Brazil where the options are just next level and more sophisticated with tons more options and a more elegant system of doing business
I want to start off with saying I went to Tijuana for the first time and did my research and tried to keep an open mind but I do prefer south american girls / european to central american girls.
SP is my favorite place and so it comes from that perspective.
I know you said you don't plan on going back but on the off chance that you do, I strongly suggest going earlier in the week instead of Thursday through Saturday. For us who are there on a regular basis, we will all pretty much say those are the worst days to go. Too many dudes around hogging up all the top tier talent.
Also, you said your preference is South American girls, which Chicago has plenty of if you go late at night. No Brazilians but several Colombians and Venezuelans. All curvy gals and most seem to be open to anal if thats your thing.
Thanks for taking the time to write your report but just sounded like you didn't know how to pick them. Maybe you just dealt with what you felt you were given though. There’s definitely hot girls around in HK, Tropical and Chicago who provide GFE/PSE service. But I'm local so I have more time to put in the footwork and weed them out, to be fair. Just my 2 cents.
DonCarlos1234
04-16-25, 08:57
I I guess if you want a quick fuck and you like the average look of Mexican girls but if you want something better I would just go to Brazil where the options are just next level and more sophisticated with tons more options and a more elegant system of doing businessThank you for a terrific & detailed post. Thanks also for reminding us that the quality of our experiences & memories is why it's worth traveling there. The time to get to Sao / Rio is the reason it is still paradise. The quick sessions at hktj are like Mcdonalds Vs. A full course 5-star meal. (with only a few memorable exceptions).
Enter The V
04-16-25, 12:16
I want to start off with saying I went to Tijuana for the first time and did my research and tried to keep an open mind but I do prefer south american girls / european to central american girls.
SP is my favorite place and so it comes from that perspective.
First time in Tijuana and like I told the border official entering back to the states, my last time.
I've been to other places like Berlin, Barcelona, Montreal, GT City, SP / Rio and I have to rank Tijuana as the lowest just behind GT City.
Flew to san diego from the east coast Thursday morning. Took an uber to the border but if you know the lay of the land you can take the trolley down there and save a few bucks. Was $40 uber from SAN to the border.All this talk of Scandallo and I still haven't seen any pics or videos of the girls there? Even in the SP forum.
Aviator400
04-16-25, 14:19
I know you said you don't plan on going back but on the off chance that you do, I strongly suggest going earlier in the week instead of Thursday through Saturday. For us who are there on a regular basis, we will all pretty much say those are the worst days to go. Too many dudes around hogging up all the top tier talent.
Also, you said your preference is South American girls, which Chicago has plenty of if you go late at night. No Brazilians but several Colombians and Venezuelans. All curvy gals and most seem to be open to anal if thats your thing.
Thanks for taking the time to write your report but just sounded like you didn't know how to pick them. Maybe you just dealt with what you felt you were given though. Theres definitely hot girls around in HK, Tropical and Chicago who provide GFE/PSE service. But I'm local so I have more time to put in the footwork and weed them out, to be fair. Just my 2 cents.This is a thoughtful response and the advice is accurate. Weekends are a zoo and a poor choice for a first time Tijuana experience. Been to many places around the world and some of my best experiences are from Tijuana.
I know you said you don't plan on going back but on the off chance that you do, I strongly suggest going earlier in the week instead of Thursday through Saturday. For us who are there on a regular basis, we will all pretty much say those are the worst days to go. Too many dudes around hogging up all the top tier talent.
Also, you said your preference is South American girls, which Chicago has plenty of if you go late at night. No Brazilians but several Colombians and Venezuelans. All curvy gals and most seem to be open to anal if thats your thing.
Thanks for taking the time to write your report but just sounded like you didn't know how to pick them. Maybe you just dealt with what you felt you were given though. Theres definitely hot girls around in HK, Tropical and Chicago who provide GFE/PSE service. But I'm local so I have more time to put in the footwork and weed them out, to be fair. Just my 2 cents.I was going to say something similar. That's about the experience you are going to have as a first timer. Especially if you are going for volume fucking, meaning fucking as many girls as you can in the shortest time possible. It's like they can smell a newbie and the sharks start circling. It's a lot different if you are a regular and can take your time and be more selective. Also, it makes a difference if they know you are coming back next weekgives you a lot more clout.
A couple points here from the original post.
"My main complaints like the rest of Tijuana clubs in general is the all cash aspect. I hate having to take out ones or break down my bills to smaller bills. Plus the fucking tipping is out of fucking control. Everyone in these clubs want a fucking tip. I was about to pull down my pants and let them suck my tip towards the end if they wanted it so bad. "
If you are not from a tipping culture I guess it can be a little off-putting. Just say no if you don't want tip to the girls. As for the waiters, they make their money on tips, so it is conventional to give them a tip if you order drinks. You don't have to tip them for any other reason, though. As for the cash aspect, maybe it lacks convenience and requires more planning ahead, but I don't mind it because at least cash is anonymous. I don't really want a record of what I am doing down there. Also, I would never want the club to control the money flow for the girls services.
"We headed upstairs and had to use the ATM. $15 fee to get my money out."
Personally, I always bring the amount of money I need for the night with me to avoid using the ATM. You always are going to be hit with some predatory fee if you use an ATM on the premises.
"I must have talked to 6-8 girls and all but two would (n't)?? Give me a BBBJ. It was insane. All had the same line saying that the club wouldn't allow it and they were looking out for their health. "
This is BS. The club doesn't care at all what you do in the room. The girls are like independent contractors in that respect.
"The place is too fucking loud as well. You can barely talk to a girl and once you do you have to pay for her drink to do so. In SP / Rio they have quieter places you can chat a girl with and just hang out"
As Nothing mentioned, the vibe is a little more chill Sun-Wed, with your best deals probably being Mon or Tuesday. Of course, HK will likely still have top talent those days but Chicago and Tropical will be slower.
"Another thing I didn't like was that the girls could keep their phones and half of them would be on it at all times. This is another aspect that Brazil gets right. Girls can't have their phones while out. Keeps them engaged. "
This might not be a bed Idea. This is especially true in Chavelas where it's like cell phone city. However, some of the girls look so board in there even with their phones, I would hate to see what they looked like without them!
A couple tips for first timers.
1) Don't say you are from wherever you are from. Just tell them you live in LA or SD. Makes it seem like you have the potential to come back soon.
2) Don't ask a lot of newb questions. This can be tough one, but if you are asking questions about the club like you've never been there before this a tell for the girls.
3) Don't throw your money around wildly. Regulars don't do this. Making it rain and busting out tips for for every girl that comes by is a newb maneuver. It's also guaranteed to get the sharks circling and also you are going to have about 10 pushy waiters at you table.
4) Hold off negotiating the price/services as long as you can. I know some people disagree with this but I feel like once you have looked them into doing X Y and Z for $120 or so you may have brought the price down slightly but you are surely on the road to a more mechanical session. And if you don't negotiate, you are under no obligation to pay more than the standard rate, which is like 100-120.
I know you said you don't plan on going back but on the off chance that you do, I strongly suggest going earlier in the week instead of Thursday through Saturday. For us who are there on a regular basis, we will all pretty much say those are the worst days to go. Too many dudes around hogging up all the top tier talent.
Also, you said your preference is South American girls, which Chicago has plenty of if you go late at night. No Brazilians but several Colombians and Venezuelans. All curvy gals and most seem to be open to anal if thats your thing.
Thanks for taking the time to write your report but just sounded like you didn't know how to pick them. Maybe you just dealt with what you felt you were given though. Theres definitely hot girls around in HK, Tropical and Chicago who provide GFE/PSE service. But I'm local so I have more time to put in the footwork and weed them out, to be fair. Just my 2 cents.I don't really have time to go during Monday-Wednesday and if I have that time off I'd rather go south.
I went during the daytime as well to the clubs and less guys and some girls who only work during the day but the main issue is that I don't find many of them attractive to pluck down some thousands of pesos for them or their time.
I lean towards brazilians girls more than colombians / venezualans because they are more genetically different. Col / ven girls are pretty typical brown skin, brown eyes and black hair while brazilians can be true redheads (my fav) blondes, Japanese, Indigenous, black with blue, green or grey eyes and have more european dna from Italy, Germany or Portugal than you'd find anywhere else in central or south america.
Granted maybe I did pick some duds but at the same time I did talk to over 10+ girls in total in my 4 days in Tijuana and they were just fucking boring for the most part except for the last girl but I got her number after to meet again before I left and got nothing so even she wasn't that amazing.
It really is the attractiveness and attitude of the girls that is the main issue overall.
Not much to do in Tijuana as well.
That's just my opinion and if you're near the border I guess it can be fine but for me a whole trip is too much legwork for girls I wouldn't even give a second look back here in miami.
Thank you for a terrific & detailed post. Thanks also for reminding us that the quality of our experiences & memories is why it's worth traveling there. The time to get to Sao / Rio is the reason it is still paradise. The quick sessions at hktj are like Mcdonalds Vs. A full course 5-star meal. (with only a few memorable exceptions).I never compared scandallo to Tijuana.
SP means Sao paulo.
I did directly compared it to casarao in SP which is like the cheapest and club like place in SP that has a similar structure to HK and the other clubs in Tijuana.
But to add to that you can have quick sessions in the clinicas in moema in SP, there are like 5 within walking distance and pay like $40-80 to fuck a girl who looks a whole lot better than most girls in HK.
You can just sit, get a free drink and see the line up and decide to go with a girl or head to another clinica.
No pressure and you can easily get the girls number after to meet at your place for $100 or something like that easy.
Seeking also has some girls for cheap or just want to fuck.
Okcupid / tinder is big.
Online girls are also very good and if you have a connection you can get a discount.
They are also much more sexually passionate with BBBJ and most girls are down to take photos / videos while the mexican girls were very skittish.
So even the quick session "mcdonalds" in SP are much better than Tijuana.
All this talk of Scandallo and I still haven't seen any pics or videos of the girls there? Even in the SP forum.Never brought up scandallo but you can go to the sao paulo forum and people post some pics of girls from there.
They have a strict no photos or video policy so hard to get a image of the inside.
During covid a reporter went inside and busted them about the amount of people going in and out so they clamped down hard recently.
If you PM some members they will most likely send you some pics and videos of the girls they had for sure.
I was going to say something similar. That's about the experience you are going to have as a first timer. Especially if you are going for volume fucking, meaning fucking as many girls as you can in the shortest time possible. It's like they can smell a newbie and the sharks start circling. It's a lot different if you are a regular and can take your time and be more selective. Also, it makes a difference if they know you are coming back next weekgives you a lot more clout.
A couple points here from the original post.
"My main complaints like the rest of Tijuana clubs in general is the all cash aspect. I hate having to take out ones or break down my bills to smaller bills. Plus the fucking tipping is out of fucking control. Everyone in these clubs want a fucking tip. I was about to pull down my pants and let them suck my tip towards the end if they wanted it so bad. "
If you are not from a tipping culture I guess it can be a little off-putting. Just say no if you don't want tip to the girls. As for the waiters, they make their money on tips, so it is conventional to give them a tip if you order drinks. You don't have to tip them for any other reason, though. As for the cash aspect, maybe it lacks convenience and requires more planning ahead, but I don't mind it because at least cash is anonymous. I don't really want a record of what I am doing down there. Also, I would never want the club to control the money flow for the girls services.
"We headed upstairs and had to use the ATM. $15 fee to get my money out."
Personally, I always bring the amount of money I need for the night with me to avoid using the ATM. You always are going to be hit with some predatory fee if you use an ATM on the premises.
"I must have talked to 6-8 girls and all but two would (n't)?? Give me a BBBJ. It was insane. All had the same line saying that the club wouldn't allow it and they were looking out for their health. "
This is BS. The club doesn't care at all what you do in the room. The girls are like independent contractors in that respect.
"The place is too fucking loud as well. You can barely talk to a girl and once you do you have to pay for her drink to do so. In SP / Rio they have quieter places you can chat a girl with and just hang out"
As Nothing mentioned, the vibe is a little more chill Sun-Wed, with your best deals probably being Mon or Tuesday. Of course, HK will likely still have top talent those days but Chicago and Tropical will be slower.
"Another thing I didn't like was that the girls could keep their phones and half of them would be on it at all times. This is another aspect that Brazil gets right. Girls can't have their phones while out. Keeps them engaged. "
This might not be a bed Idea. This is especially true in Chavelas where it's like cell phone city. However, some of the girls look so board in there even with their phones, I would hate to see what they looked like without them!
A couple tips for first timers.
1) Don't say you are from wherever you are from. Just tell them you live in LA or SD. Makes it seem like you have the potential to come back soon.
2) Don't ask a lot of newb questions. This can be tough one, but if you are asking questions about the club like you've never been there before this a tell for the girls.
3) Don't throw your money around wildly. Regulars don't do this. Making it rain and busting out tips for for every girl that comes by is a newb maneuver. It's also guaranteed to get the sharks circling and also you are going to have about 10 pushy waiters at you table.
4) Hold off negotiating the price/services as long as you can. I know some people disagree with this but I feel like once you have looked them into doing X Y and Z for $120 or so you may have brought the price down slightly but you are surely on the road to a more mechanical session. And if you don't negotiate, you are under no obligation to pay more than the standard rate, which is like 100-120.TIPPING.
I'm from the USA so I understand tipping cultured and its fucking BS.
Importing that shit to mexico is like importing LA girl mindset to the girls.
Like who wants that? Shit should be contained and not spreading.
And I mean every motherfucker wanted a tip. The doorguy, the waiters, the security guys, the guys at the hotel, the girls, etc.
Its like their little kids begging for money and it's offputting.
In Brazil they don't have this stupid tipping culture but I do tip some people like the DJ at scan to put my music or some waiters when they help a brother out with a girl or some extra stuff.
So I'm not opposed to it but it's stupid you want a tip for doing your job like you're not getting paid.
ATM.
Yea I should have brought more money.
Atms in the usa at strip clubs would be about the same. Even in SP more or less.
Its just annoying it wasnt like 10 $ or less.
BBBJ.
Yea I know this was bullshit. I called them out every single time but it's like a pre scripted thing for 90% of the girls I talked to.
It was crazy it was that high.
Like I said I've been to a few places around the world but never met so many girls in a row saying the exact same shit.
Its like they don't go to the clinic or something to get tested like you're supposed to.
I told them I get tested frequently and they looked at me like I was the insane one and not the other way around.
It was actually kinda nasty to think some of these girls don't get tested on a regualr basis.
In SP most clubs requires the girls to bring a test results every 2-3 weeks.
Idk if HK has a similar policy but I doubt it since most girls said they didn't want to pay for something like that all the time.
NOISE.
Just to preface I'm 29 and not 69.
I'm used to clubs and loud ish places but this aspect was just super annoying.
No matter what club you went it was always blasting some shitty rap / mexican music turned up to 100 all the time or have a loud ass live band near.
The only place that was sort of quite was the top level in HK but I doubt most girls would want to walk all the way up there just to talk for a bit.
I don't blame them either.
SP clubs have like resturant area where you can dine and they have like light jazz music or keep the volume to like 40% so you can have a nice talk with a girl over some dinner and drinks.
They also have smoking areas that are quite too.
Most have club areas where music is loud but contained if you want that too.
Overall they got their shit together and the mexican clubs are just a mess of a place.
PHONES.
This should be policy so girls have to give a shit.
They are working and so they need to act like it.
If they get bored they can work at KFC or McDonalds.
Since I'm paying for the girls drink when I talk to them I better have their full fucking attention.
OVERALL.
Not my kind of place.
There are other places like montreal that I feel are better for my liking and needs.
DR perhaps?
I just know I will never go back to Tijuana since it lacks so many things that make it a real relaxing spot.
Feels like a Reno to Sao paulo's Las Vegas.
I will say this about Hong Kong. The best girls, whether looks or performance wise, hardly ever show up for work. They'll go 1 week per month or every other month at most. Why? Because they accumulate their own clientele to see away from the club at their own leisure and not put up with all the HK BS. All they need is a handful of guys who will see them on a consistent basis and they easily make way more with that alone than if they would show up for work at the club every day. And one of those handful of guys usually end up being their sugar daddy to the point that they don't even need to see anybody else unless they want to. Whenever they return to work for that 1 week or so, its because they lose a guy or two in their rotation for whatever reason, and they need new ones to take their place.
The girls you see there on a consistent basis week in and week out for the most part are not the GFE / PSE types, because if they were, they wouldn't have to be showing up for work so often. They would have already easily built up a following to keep them from working so much.
When I go I'm either scouting the newest hottest prospects or hoping to bump into familiar faces that haven't been around in a while. The ones who are always typically there are practically invisible to me.
I will say this about Hong Kong. The best girls, whether looks or performance wise, hardly ever show up for work. They'll go 1 week per month or every other month at most. Why? Because they accumulate their own clientele to see away from the club at their own leisure and not put up with all the HK BS. All they need is a handful of guys who will see them on a consistent basis and they easily make way more with that alone than if they would show up for work at the club every day. And one of those handful of guys usually end up being their sugar daddy to the point that they don't even need to see anybody else unless they want to. Whenever they return to work for that 1 week or so, its because they lose a guy or two in their rotation for whatever reason, and they need new guys to take their place.
The girls you see there on a consistent basis week in and week out for the most part are not the GFE / PSE types, because if they were, they wouldn't have to be showing up for work so often. They would have already easily built up a following to keep them from working so much.
When I go I'm either scouting the newest hottest prospects or looking for familiar faces that haven't been around in a while. The ones who are always typically there are practically invisible to me.Yep. There are definitely short game girls (girls you might want to take to the room but not see outside the club) and long game girls (girls you might want to see outside the club and have a longer term "relationship" with.).
The girls that are constantly working tend to be more short game girls. Why this is could be any of the following:
1) They are not that attractive.
2) They don't give giood service.
3) Thier personality doesn't allow them to connect with clients.
4) They actually aren't interested in men, in general, so its tougher for them to do the long game.
5) They don't live in Tijuana, but stay in the hotel during their visits and go back. This makes the logistics more difficult.
6) They have an actual boyfriend somewhere, which makes the logistics more difficult.
7) Or lastly, for whatever reason, they just kind of dumb or like working in the clubs better.
Long game girls:
1) Are attractive to most men.
2) Don't like working in the club and avoid it whenever possible.
3) Give good service.
4) Have higher social intelligence, which allows them to make friends with men easily, ultimately leading to these other types of arrangements mentioned by Nothing.
The girls who are "always" there are definitely not good prospect for the long game. Thus, if you want that, you do need to hunt for "new prospects". The newer the better, becuase you want to get in before she builds up too much of a clientele and gets jaded.
Long game is much harder to achieve than short game, for obvious reasons. For me personally, the stars have to kind of align for it to happen. This is because to take a girl out of the club, In addition to her being an attractive, cool girl that I like being with and with whom there is good sexual chemestry, I need to feel that she is also attracted to me and wants to be there. I don't like the idea of just hiring an escort to go places or being some girl's "sugar daddy". I'm not saying that money won't be involved. It will (this is Mexico after all), but she still has to have an interest in me beyond money, or it won't work.
I don't mind helping these girls out financially if they deserve it. In fact, I find this to be a necessary component of a healthy relationship with a female. Why? Because women have the sexual power. Men need to exert financial power to create balance. You may think you are somehow winning by landing a girl who is hot and doesn't need you financially. But the reality is you will have no leverage in the relationship. The girl will totally dictate the terms of the relationship, which is unacceptable to me. To have leverage, you basically have to pay, there is no way around it. Another reality of Mexico is that these women have basically no skills other than getting money from men. If you don't give them money, they will need to minimize their time with you and find some guys that will, not neccessarily because they don't like you, but because they need to survive.
Another obstacle to the long game is finding a girl who works with your budget. Another reason why it's important that they like spending time with you because then you can usually get a pretty good deal. You don't want a girl who is constantly breaking your bank. In addition, I view any money I give them as a gift. They can't ask for it directly or up front. If they are not accepting of what I give then that ends it.
So I recently asked a girl to do something outside the club. This girl is kind of a regular at HK so I was already treading on thin ice. However, she is pretty young, so I though maybe it was worth a shot. Even though I have seen her working there for a while, I never went with her to the room until recently, primarily because I couldn't read her personality. She seemed friendly but a little standoffish with other clients, so I was hesitant.
One day she sat down right beside me, and we started talking. She's all like, "you're the hottest guy in here", and "I tell my friends that your my 'boyfriend'" and some other over the top stuff like that, and I'm like, OK maybe she's trying to butter me up. But then we start kissing and she's all over me. We are literally making out in the club for hours and she's instigating most of it. So I'm thinking, "she acts different with me than I've seen her act with other clients so maybe she DOES like me. " So we go to the room and she gives me girlfriend sex (which is pretty standard for me). I pay her the standard rate plus a tip (She didn't ask for any money, BTW). I get her number. Everything was great.
I see her a couple more times over the coming weeks. Same result. She's young, cute, and basically my type, so finally I ask her if she is free any day so we can potentially do something outside the club. She says "sure" and is recommending places we could go, which I interpret as another good sign. When we finish for the night, I indicate that I am going to text her next week to make arrangements. As we part ways, she say to me "you are going to text me, right?" and I say "yeah".
So the next week I am texting her and the deal is almost sealed when she drops this, "You are going to pay me to go out with you, right?" Damn, so close. I try to be as nice as possible. I tell her that, yes, I was going to make it worth her while, but asking so directly makes it feel transactional and that I'm not looking for just an Escort. The says that she needs to work and that she's not looking for a boyfriend for the time being. The moment being ruined, I say, "oh well maybe another time. ".
So basically she's off the table for now. Though I will concede that she may just be inexperienced and not understand how the long game works. She is pretty fun for the short game, though, so I may still go with her at the club now and then.
So the next week I am texting her and the deal is almost sealed when she drops this, "You are going to pay me to go out with you, right?" Damn, so close. I try to be as nice as possible. I tell her that, yes, I was going to make it worth her while, but asking so directly makes it feel transactional and that I'm not looking for just an Escort. The says that she needs to work and that she's not looking for a boyfriend for the time being. The moment being ruined, I say, "oh well maybe another time. ".
So basically she's off the table for now. Though I will concede that she may just be inexperienced and not understand how the long game works. She is pretty fun for the short game, though, so I may still go with her at the club now and then.I don't get what she did wrong. Unless the two of you hadn't mentioned anything about spending the night together she just wanted to make sure you didn't think her time and sex was free. Or she just wanted to clarify you wanted.
I would say that guys try to take advantage of girls more than the girls do of guys. IMO. Since I'm not sure of every conversation you had with her and what was exactly said I would imagine that you never made it clear to her that you would compensate her for sex and since your the man you need to make sure she knows the situation and what you want.
I see her a couple more times over the coming weeks. Same result. She's young, cute, and basically my type, so finally I ask her if she is free any day so we can potentially do something outside the club. She says "sure" and is recommending places we could go, which I interpret as another good sign. When we finish for the night, I indicate that I am going to text her next week to make arrangements. As we part ways, she say to me "you are going to text me, right?" and I say "yeah".
So the next week I am texting her and the deal is almost sealed when she drops this, "You are going to pay me to go out with you, right?" Damn, so close. I try to be as nice as possible. I tell her that, yes, I was going to make it worth her while, but asking so directly makes it feel transactional and that I'm not looking for just an Escort. The says that she needs to work and that she's not looking for a boyfriend for the time being. The moment being ruined, I say, "oh well maybe another time. ".
So basically she's off the table for now. Though I will concede that she may just be inexperienced and not understand how the long game works. She is pretty fun for the short game, though, so I may still go with her at the club now and then.
This reminded me of an HK girl I met not too long ago. First day we met we hit it off right away. Complete GFE and reasonably priced. Ran into her the following week, I had recently just popped with someone else, so I told her I was on my way out but would invite her for a couple drinks if she would like and she said sure. Thought this would put a damp on things but she was being very affectionate and making out with me the entire time. She asks when are we going to see each other OTC. I told her anytime she would like and she said ok but said I better come prepared because she supposedly likes to fuck for hours. Of course everything sounded great and everything but then she hit me with "it's going to cost you though". Total mood killer. I know it's going to cost me, it's pointless to say that, dummy. I was obviously going to compensate you. Then I started thinking well how much is this chick expecting? 300, 500, 1000? It was such a turn off I didn't even ask her how much. I just played it cool and finished up our drinks and told her I would catch her around next time.
The best girls never bring up money and are typically happy with whatever you give them as long as youre fair and treat them well. A lesson this girl will have to learn on her own.
Since I have plenty of other chicas in my rotation, I haven't been with that same girl since. I'll get around to seeing her again at some point, just not in a hurry to do so.
I don't get what she did wrong. Unless the two of you hadn't mentioned anything about spending the night together she just wanted to make sure you didn't think her time and sex was free. Or she just wanted to clarify you wanted.
I would say that guys try to take advantage of girls more than the girls do of guys. IMO. Since I'm not sure of every conversation you had with her and what was exactly said I would imagine that you never made it clear to her that you would compensate her for sex and since your the man you need to make sure she knows the situation and what you want.Yeah, I'm kind of weird about that. Ha Ha.
No, she did nothing wrong. I'm not upset with her and will still probably see her in HK. We had not talked about any money (or sex) leading up to this. I had just asked her if she wanted to go to this club. As I mentioned before, I have no interest in just buying a girl's time OTC. I can do that in HK. So I actually look for a girl who I think wants to be there. They can't just be punching the clock when we go out. For this reason, discussions of money are kind of awkward for me. The best I can hope for is that she will just go along with it, with the understanding that I'm going to give her something. So when she more or less asked me to pay her, my first thought is "she doesn't want to go. " And I'm not just going to sit there with someone who doesn't want to be there and is waiting for a paycheck.
As you can see, what I like is pretty rare. So I "almost" never take a girl outside the club. My view is that investing time, energy, and money in a female outside of HK requires mutual attraction, or at the very least that she likes hanging out with you. If you don't have that, just keep it in HK.
The great thing about Tijuana is that even when you get turned down by a girl (as I basically did), youv'e already had incredible sex with her several times! Ha Ha. When doed that happen in real life? It's a win win situation every time!
Yeah, I'm kind of weird about that. Ha Ha.
No, she did nothing wrong. I'm not upset with her and will still probably see her in HK. We had not talked about any money (or sex) leading up to this. I had just asked her if she wanted to go to this club. As I mentioned before, I have no interest in just buying a girl's time OTC. I can do that in HK. So I actually look for a girl who I think wants to be there. They can't just be punching the clock when we go out. For this reason, discussions of money are kind of awkward for me. The best I can hope for is that she will just go along with it, with the understanding that I'm going to give her something. So when she more or less asked me to pay her, my first thought is "she doesn't want to go. " And I'm not just going to sit there with someone who doesn't want to be there and is waiting for a paycheck.
As you can see, what I like is pretty rare. So I "almost" never take a girl outside the club. My view is that investing time, energy, and money in a female outside of HK requires mutual attraction, or at the very least that she likes hanging out with you. If you don't have that, just keep it in HK.
The great thing about Tijuana is that even when you get turned down by a girl (as I basically did), youv'e already had incredible sex with her several times! Ha Ha. When doed that happen in real life? It's a win win situation every time!Trust me I'm the same way and in my younger days I was worse. I remember a girl I would do TLN with I was asking her to be sure that she is only going with me because she wanted to and not just for the money. She got irritated and basically said if I'm with you it's because she enjoys it and not just for money.
Some girls have clients that don't understand the concept that the Zona is all fantasy and some guys think of seeing a girl outside as an actual date. I'm not saying this was your case but if this girl has a bad history of clients getting confused on what the truth is she might of wanted to be honest with you instead of trying to string you along. Especially when she said she was working and not looking for a boyfriend since she might of felt that's what you wanted. Obviously I'm just giving my point of view since I don't know all of your conversations.
Trust me I'm the same way and in my younger days I was worse. I remember a girl I would do TLN with I was asking her to be sure that she is only going with me because she wanted to and not just for the money. She got irritated and basically said if I'm with you it's because she enjoys it and not just for money.
Some girls have clients that don't understand the concept that the Zona is all fantasy and some guys think of seeing a girl outside as an actual date. I'm not saying this was your case but if this girl has a bad history of clients getting confused on what the truth is she might of wanted to be honest with you instead of trying to string you along. Especially when she said she was working and not looking for a boyfriend since she might of felt that's what you wanted. Obviously I'm just giving my point of view since I don't know all of your conversations.Well, I wouldn't go with a girl if I though I was going to be just. A "client". Would any guy? I 100% expect more than that, or at least the potential for more than that. Otherwise, it's just not worth it.
It's actually a fallacy to believe that just because a girl works at HK, you are relegated to being her client in some kind of business relationship. They are just ordinary girls when it comes down to it. They can like you or not like you just like an a girl you meet in everyday life. I know this from personal experience. I think the secret to HK is to actually realize this important fact and not somehow put the girls on a pedestal. This is hard for some guys becuase they do get all made up and present themselves as some kind of sexual fantasy, but believe me, they don't look as good the morning after. They are just normal girls.
Now, what a lot of guys get wrong is thinking they are going to jump into a non-client relationship with these girls. That's not going to happen, in general. If it's been all too easy, then, yes, you are still her client. You have to put in the time and effort to get past the client stage. Most all women, no matter what thier background, expect this time and effort to be put in order to actually let you into their lives.
For reference, the last girl I took out of the club asked me out, not the other way around. She was crazy about me (actually, she was just plain crazy, looking back). A girl like that only comes around once in a blue moon though.
Trust me I'm the same way and in my younger days I was worse. I remember a girl I would do TLN with I was asking her to be sure that she is only going with me because she wanted to and not just for the money. She got irritated and basically said if I'm with you it's because she enjoys it and not just for money.
Some girls have clients that don't understand the concept that the Zona is all fantasy and some guys think of seeing a girl outside as an actual date. I'm not saying this was your case but if this girl has a bad history of clients getting confused on what the truth is she might of wanted to be honest with you instead of trying to string you along. Especially when she said she was working and not looking for a boyfriend since she might of felt that's what you wanted. Obviously I'm just giving my point of view since I don't know all of your conversations.One more thing. The worst case is when a guy says "I'm going to pay you X dollars to do this with me" and then starts acting like she's his girlfriend. Then the guy is deluded. My technique is to draw the girls out and see what their true intentions are. And the way you do that is obviously not promising any money and see how they react. If she closes the door on any prospects beyond a client / provider relationship, we keep in in the club. If she leaves the door open, we proceed.
The details of your post indicate to me that possibly you thought you were going to get a free good time. That can happen. Obviously that is not what was on her mind.
These ladies are selling a fantasy as a job. A good business lady will make sure the expectations she has are known the first time going otc with a guy.
Have seen many locas otc. There is always a discussion on money expected the first time. The next otc visits money is never discussed. After the time in the club and the one visit these locas know they can trust me. If I am flying them into Tijuana I will bring it up before buying the plane ticket just to make sure we are on same page. I think this arrangement is fantastic. Their performance is what makes the time amazing.
Many USA sex workers want to set up so many boundaries usually defined by their pimp or someone acting like a pimp for them. These latinas deserve awards for the performances I get. USA girls are so cold I can see why some mongers may actually think they are going to be special to a girl who is just on the clock for her job.
Seen some guys think they are being worked for a visa. This happens too. Multiple girls I have seen have no interest coming to the USA. Some do of course but it is not 100% of the girls in Latin America like some people think.
I see her a couple more times over the coming weeks. Same result. She's young, cute, and basically my type, so finally I ask her if she is free any day so we can potentially do something outside the club. She says "sure" and is recommending places we could go, which I interpret as another good sign. When we finish for the night, I indicate that I am going to text her next week to make arrangements. As we part ways, she say to me "you are going to text me, right?" and I say "yeah".
So the next week I am texting her and the deal is almost sealed when she drops this, "You are going to pay me to go out with you, right?" Damn, so close. I try to be as nice as possible. I tell her that, yes, I was going to make it worth her while, but asking so directly makes it feel transactional and that I'm not looking for just an Escort. The says that she needs to work and that she's not looking for a boyfriend for the time being. The moment being ruined, I say, "oh well maybe another time. ".
So basically she's off the table for now. Though I will concede that she may just be inexperienced and not understand how the long game works. She is pretty fun for the short game, though, so I may still go with her at the club now and then.
So you are actually trying to turn a working girl into a "relationship" of some kind?
I mean whatever makes you happy but have you considered what this ride will be like? Or you just trying to get free sex from a girl who sells sex as her job?
Well, I wouldn't go with a girl if I though I was going to be just. A "client". Would any guy? I 100% expect more than that, or at least the potential for more than that. Otherwise, it's just not worth it.
It's actually a fallacy to believe that just because a girl works at HK, you are relegated to being her client in some kind of business relationship. They are just ordinary girls when it comes down to it. They can like you or not like you just like an a girl you meet in everyday life. I know this from personal experience. I think the secret to HK is to actually realize this important fact and not somehow put the girls on a pedestal. This is hard for some guys becuase they do get all made up and present themselves as some kind of sexual fantasy, but believe me, they don't look as good the morning after. They are just normal girls.
Now, what a lot of guys get wrong is thinking they are going to jump into a non-client relationship with these girls. That's not going to happen, in general. If it's been all too easy, then, yes, you are still her client. You have to put in the time and effort to get past the client stage. Most all women, no matter what thier background, expect this time and effort to be put in order to actually let you into their lives.
For reference, the last girl I took out of the club asked me out, not the other way around. She was crazy about me (actually, she was just plain crazy, looking back). A girl like that only comes around once in a blue moon though.
Theo TheMonger
04-19-25, 23:44
This is some of the best tactical advice, and one of the best posts, that I have seen in a long time. Thank you.
Just to add on to the discussion, don't just go around asking for quotes in HK. Talk to the girls for a little bit and then ask if they will go upstairs for $100. From my experiences, half the time they will say yes. Some might say it's not enough, but will accept $120. Very few will stand firm at 140/150. Which if they do, just move onto the next if that's too high for you. Sometimes you guys act like we're forced to pay these prices. Also don't just stick to HK. Go do some rounds of Chicago and Tropical where the girls are a lot more reasonable and open to fair offers.
Sometimes I'll just go off of vibes and will take them arriba without any discussion of money. If the session goes good I give them $120.
I think I have only had one girl, maybe two, ever ask for a little more after giving her that. If the session is bad (super rare) or mediocre I give them $100. The only time this was ever an issue was at Adelitas and I asked for a manager to step in and he surprisingly sided with me.
AmorPorFavor
04-20-25, 00:28
One more thing. The worst case is when a guy says "I'm going to pay you X dollars to do this with me" and then starts acting like she's his girlfriend. Then the guy is deluded. My technique is to draw the girls out and see what their true intentions are. And the way you do that is obviously not promising any money and see how they react. If she closes the door on any prospects beyond a client / provider relationship, we keep in in the club. If she leaves the door open, we proceed.How many HK putas have you had sex with otc without giving them any cash? How many have you done that with more than once?
How many HK putas have you had sex with otc without giving them any cash? How many have you done that with more than once?If I don't pay, I can't fack.
Well, I wouldn't go with a girl if I though I was going to be just. A "client". Would any guy? I 100% expect more than that, or at least the potential for more than that. Otherwise, it's just not worth it.
It's actually a fallacy to believe that just because a girl works at HK, you are relegated to being her client in some kind of business relationship. They are just ordinary girls when it comes down to it. They can like you or not like you just like an a girl you meet in everyday life. They can like you or not, just like any other woman—but money has to always be part of the equation. An HK girl (or any working girl) usually isn’t comfortable if a former client treats her like just any regular woman. Once they know you’re aware they’re putas, they relax more as long as money stays in the picture. Outside of that, no puta really chills with you for long—at least, not usually. There are whole movies about this kind of dynamic.
Also, it depends on the arrangement, but her time with you has to be worth her while in some way, even if no cash changes hands. And honestly, you could argue that all interactions between men and women come down to what each person gets out of it.
So you are actually trying to turn a working girl into a "relationship" of some kind?
I mean whatever makes you happy but have you considered what this ride will be like? Or you just trying to get free sex from a girl who sells sex as her job?
Man, I've been to that mountaintop and back. People might say I'm crazy but I liked the thrill of it. I still do, but I'm more cautious now.
If a relationship opportunity presented itself, would I take it? Maybe, I don't know. I mean, anyone who spends there free time going to a w****house must have deep psychological issues, right? I'm probably as fucked up as any of the girls in there, so it's actually a good match. lol
But in the short term, if I take a girl OTC, all I really want to know is that the girl likes being there. That's basically it. Then they get the money plus a fun time. That is satisfying to me. But I get scared of easily if I feel she's not down for it.
I don't go looking for free sex. I don't have a lot of "game" so to speak. And all that game stuff just seems like a lot of work anyway so you might as well just spend the money. Spending the money has always been easier and more natural than anything else, for me.
And, if a girl likes you and you have good chemistry, she's likely going to give you a good deal. Not free, mind you, but a good deal. If it really isn't that much "work" for her to be with you she is going to give you perks. If she thinks you're an ugly boring dude and she just tolerates you for the money, you're going to have to pay the ugly boring dude price.
Let me clarify what I meant by Client / Provider relationship vs looking for more.
To me, a client / provider relationship is when she views time spent with you as work that she needs to be paid for. She may feign interest, but she really has no interest in you, sexually or otherwise, and would not spend time with you except under the condition that you pay her.
To move beyond this doesn't mean that she is "in love with you. " or that she is now your girlfriend. It simply means that she likes spending time with you, and enjoys the sex with you, so that it is understood that it really isn't a great deal of work for her to be there. Any money she receives is now just a bonus to an already fun time. In addition, she may at this time let you into her life a bit and you may get to know her circle of friends, or you may become "one of the gang". You can go into a deeper relationship from here but it's really not necessary.
If you are in the first category you are hurting. It is necessary to move into the second category to get any reasonable deal. I guess if you are rich and can just throw any amount of money at women this might not even matter that much to you, but I'm not in that boat. Thus, I need to gauge a girls level of interest carefully before preceding.
Ok I get it. I relate with a lot of what you are saying. I am with you on a lot of what you saying.
It is not hard for me to find girls who enjoy spending time with me. I treat them like they want to be treated in terms of like a lady / loca. I make sure they are happy with the financial arrangement. They do things as women and locas that I need as a man. Typically the girl starts failing on her part in some way while I remain consistent. All good, I can find another in 1 or 2 visits to the clubs. Sometimes a replacement can be found in a matter of hours. I would prefer one but I also understand this can be difficult for a person to navigate the feelings+business that will come up.
In terms of does a girl like you, do you make her climax? The clitoris does not lie once a guy knows what he is doing. I can tell quickly if a girl actually likes me or not. That is just step 1. Is she even available emotionally for what the monger wants? A lot of these girls will limit what they do with mongers because they have a guy they sharing the money with they get from working. I guess it all comes down to what exactly a monger wants from the girl. How much is good for the monger?
The "relationship" part is complicated. Sex work is so looked down on in so many areas of life it is hard to find the needed support to understand how to balance the relationship+work. Any balance between money and relationship can be difficult to negotiate even in other business. In sex work it is next level complicated.
I was running strong with one and a good friend asked me if we did get into a "relationship" do I want her to stop working? Hell no. The loca is working to support her kid, her mother, and her younger bother and sister. I can not support all of that. This on top of I have met VERY few who are good with their money considering their business. Yea I met one who is managing her expenses well while working at the club. Props to her. I met another one who is managing her expenses and finances so well she could probably qualify for a VISA to the the USA all on her own. ALL the rest could learn a lot from these two girls.
Man, I've been to that mountaintop and back. People might say I'm crazy but I liked the thrill of it. I still do, but I'm more cautious now.
If a relationship opportunity presented itself, would I take it? Maybe, I don't know. I mean, anyone who spends there free time going to a w****house must have deep psychological issues, right? I'm probably as fucked up as any of the girls in there, so it's actually a good match. lol
But in the short term, if I take a girl OTC, all I really want to know is that the girl likes being there. That's basically it. Then they get the money plus a fun time. That is satisfying to me. But I get scared of easily if I feel she's not down for it.
I don't go looking for free sex. I don't have a lot of "game" so to speak. And all that game stuff just seems like a lot of work anyway so you might as well just spend the money. Spending the money has always been easier and more natural than anything else, for me.
And, if a girl likes you and you have good chemistry, she's likely going to give you a good deal. Not free, mind you, but a good deal. If it really isn't that much "work" for her to be with you she is going to give you perks. If she thinks you're an ugly boring dude and she just tolerates you for the money, you're going to have to pay the ugly boring dude price.
The enjoying sex part is tricky for girls. Very few girls have a sex drive that can allow her to keep up with her work. The ones who actually have a sex drive that can keep up with their work may be diagnosed as flawed by a psychiatrists. I think those locas are a magnificent goddess.
Point for me, I try to be understanding if every sex moment is not as good as other moments with the same girl. As long as they doing what is needed for me, I accept what they can give. Recently with one loca the evening was magical sex, straight loca elite sexo. She was sucking everything on my body, wanting me to choke her, spank her and do all kinds of wild stuff. Then in the morning it was much more calm. She has told me she enjoys sex much more at night than morning but she will still gives me what I need in the morning. That is a good loca imo.
Another girl was not as understanding of my need in the morning. Last time her and I spent the night together. She is still trying to get back with me. A good girl, just not good enough loca for my limited resources.
It is not just sex, if I am spending OTC money, there needs to be fun of some kind. Dancing at a club. Going somewhere we both enjoy. Some kind of fun. I think this not only helps with my feeling it was worth while but if she is having fun it also helps with the sex.
Let me clarify what I meant by Client / Provider relationship vs looking for more.
To me, a client / provider relationship is when she views time spent with you as work that she needs to be paid for. She may feign interest, but she really has no interest in you, sexually or otherwise, and would not spend time with you except under the condition that you pay her.
To move beyond this doesn't mean that she is "in love with you. " or that she is now your girlfriend. It simply means that she likes spending time with you, and enjoys the sex with you, so that it is understood that it really isn't a great deal of work for her to be there. Any money she receives is now just a bonus to an already fun time. In addition, she may at this time let you into her life a bit and you may get to know her circle of friends, or you may become "one of the gang". You can go into a deeper relationship from here but it's really not necessary.
If you are in the first category you are hurting. It is necessary to move into the second category to get any reasonable deal. I guess if you are rich and can just throw any amount of money at women this might not even matter that much to you, but I'm not in that boat. Thus, I need to gauge a girls level of interest carefully before preceding.
The enjoying sex part is tricky for girls. Very few girls have a sex drive that can allow her to keep up with her work. The ones who actually have a sex drive that can keep up with their work may be diagnosed as flawed by a psychiatrists. I think those locas are a magnificent goddess.
Point for me, I try to be understanding if every sex moment is not as good as other moments with the same girl. As long as they doing what is needed for me, I accept what they can give. Recently with one loca the evening was magical sex, straight loca elite sexo. She was sucking everything on my body, wanting me to choke her, spank her and do all kinds of wild stuff. Then in the morning it was much more calm. She has told me she enjoys sex much more at night than morning but she will still gives me what I need in the morning. That is a good loca imo.
Another girl was not as understanding of my need in the morning. Last time her and I spent the night together. She is still trying to get back with me. A good girl, just not good enough loca for my limited resources.
It is not just sex, if I am spending OTC money, there needs to be fun of some kind. Dancing at a club. Going somewhere we both enjoy. Some kind of fun. I think this not only helps with my feeling it was worth while but if she is having fun it also helps with the sex.Women don't naturally get physically drained from sex the way men do. Their bodies handle it better unless they're dealing with rough sex, alcohol, drugs, or just being worn out from lack of rest. Mentally, though? That's a different story. The stigma around prostitution, the judgment from society, even from us mongers weighs on them hard and messes with their heads.
That's why it's so rare for a working girl to truly enjoy sex on the job. But (and this is a big but), if a ton of conditions line up just right (way too many to list) they can actually orgasm with a client. I've seen it happen, more than once. And I'm talking real orgasms, not just the usual fake thrusts, moans or wetness. We're talking clear physical signs of contractions, involuntary reactions, the whole deal. Trust me, I've been around long enough to know the difference.
Men, on the other hand? Orgasms do take a toll on us physically. And that effect only gets worse as we get older.
When I was first going to the Zona I would tap 5+ girls a night. A lot of them enjoyed it on some level but I would say maybe 1 per 2 visits would orgasm. The clitoris will tell me if they are getting into it. If the clitoris is doing its thing I still may not bring her to orgasm. Sometimes it takes a while for me to understand the specific motions their body requires to get off. There is definitely an emotion part of it but I can typically find the ones who enjoy me on that level in some way.
One girl in Chicago opened my mind on the weekend the clubs were open during the lockdowns for a couple days. Not talking the hotel stuff, they actually opened for a couple days using the food serving exception TJ gave out until they were told to close again. I realized latina girls were more open to being pleased than sex workers I am familiar with in USA.
Three girls from Monterrey help me with the final change a few years ago. I got to really understand what it takes to make a girl from Mexico go wild. Not all of them but I got to understand how to filter the ones out that will enjoy sex with me. Each girl allowed me to take her to the next level but they liked me for different reasons. One of them continued to try to get back with me until she disappeared in Monterrey. Another one still reaches out to me and teases me as of 2025. This one really trips me out because as I see her social media she almost always has a girlfriend and obviously prefers girls. Last time I saw her in the club she swore she was sincere with me until she found out I was also banging her friend from Monterrey. There is some drama behind that story but those three locas were some of the best I have spent time with and each taught me different lessons about latinas.
At this point a good amount of the girls I pick to have sex with experience an orgasm. Most enjoy it on some level but I like said earlier it may take me a while to understand the motions they need to push them over the top. Wish every girl needed the exact same things but that is not the way it works in my experience.
Some just fake it really good. I appreciate that too. I will enjoy these ones from the club but do not see them otc.
Women don't naturally get physically drained from sex the way men do. Their bodies handle it better unless they're dealing with rough sex, alcohol, drugs, or just being worn out from lack of rest. Mentally, though? That's a different story. The stigma around prostitution, the judgment from society, even from us mongers weighs on them hard and messes with their heads.
That's why it's so rare for a working girl to truly enjoy sex on the job. But (and this is a big but), if a ton of conditions line up just right (way too many to list) they can actually orgasm with a client. I've seen it happen, more than once. And I'm talking real orgasms, not just the usual fake thrusts, moans or wetness. We're talking clear physical signs of contractions, involuntary reactions, the whole deal. Trust me, I've been around long enough to know the difference.
Men, on the other hand? Orgasms do take a toll on us physically. And that effect only gets worse as we get older.
Wish every girl needed the exact same things but that is not the way it works in my experience.100% correct statement.
We are dealing with human emotion and its triggers, which is as diverse and numerous, a thousand ways and more. There is no formula. To me, I don't even look to satisfy my putas but myself. I do pick those who pass my criteria. Furthermore, I am confident, I am nice, I am playful, I am clean, I tip, and I know how not to press the wrong buttons of their emotions. The rest is up to them. 99% of the time I get very good sessions, which was not the case when I started this hobby a decade ago. Today, every once in a blue moon I get that gem of a woman, who happens to let go and rich ecstasy -- good for her.
Captain Solo
04-24-25, 11:48
Went to HK Tuesday afternoon 1 PM with wingman Rabo Verde whom I had not seen a while. He had dental appointment besides a host of health problems and back pain. We have been going to Tijuana for 25 years or so when he was in better health.
Talents were weak in the afternoon as expected. Strippers just did not look and feel glammy. Sat in HK's football booth watching sports, drinking, ogling hot girls and strippers on stage. Life is good enough with just that. A few wingmen showed up. We have known each other a few years, sharing fun in Tijuana and problems at work and home. Felt good to hang out with wingmen.
Walked around, gave propinas to hot girls, squeezed bobs, groped crotches, tried to kiss their mouths. Zare in Chavelas was beautiful, nice, trim, responded, kissed me back, a good sign. To me kissing is loving. Sex without kissing is just plugging a hole, not real sex, not worth the effort.
Invited Zare to HK to drink with wingmen but she had to go to manager for permission. Mesero said she was a noob, had to sit in Chavelas 1 hour or I had to buy her 6 drinks in HK, WTF? Took her to a dark booth in Chavelas, bought her a $11 drink. Kissed her mouth, sucked on her softest lips, squeezed her natural A cups, groped her moist crotch. She kissed back but said kissing in the room only. She felt soft and sexy all over, had a pregnancy prevention implant under her left arm, said from Culiacan, Sinaloa, just started working in Chavelas this week, denied she had any BFs or kids, gave me her tel for vacaciones in Mazatlan.
She was groping my dick while I groped her moist crotch, sucked on her soft lips. My dick was growing in the presence of a hot, sexy girl. Her breath was not clean and fresh but I really wanted to bag this nice, clean girl in bed. She wanted $150 half hour and $200 an hour. I faked shock, offered $100 but she did not bite, walked off in a huff. In retrospect, she would have been a bad session in bed.
Went out to the alley, checked on street girls. Picked up a spinner and went in hotel Mini for 600 pesos toda sin ropa. She was very nice and accommodating, offered full access, got wet and moaned softly as I toyed with her clit and her G spot. She spread her legs. I screwed her tight pussy hard for half hour straight but could not pop, had to give up. It was still probably more satisfying than a session with a stuck up, restrictive and expensive HK girl. I would have wasted $150 on Zare.
The enjoying sex part is tricky for girls. Very few girls have a sex drive that can allow her to keep up with her work. The ones who actually have a sex drive that can keep up with their work may be diagnosed as flawed by a psychiatrists. I think those locas are a magnificent goddess.
Point for me, I try to be understanding if every sex moment is not as good as other moments with the same girl. As long as they doing what is needed for me, I accept what they can give. Recently with one loca the evening was magical sex, straight loca elite sexo. She was sucking everything on my body, wanting me to choke her, spank her and do all kinds of wild stuff. Then in the morning it was much more calm. She has told me she enjoys sex much more at night than morning but she will still gives me what I need in the morning. That is a good loca imo.
By enjoying it, I meant that they actually want to have sex with you, or, at the very least, don't mind. Women don't get the same thing out of sex as men, and some women cannot even have an orgasm during straight sex. Whereas men are programmed to receive both a physical and a psychological reward from the sex itself, a woman's reward is what she receives in return for the sex, whether it be money, a relationship, love, etc. – even if the sex itself is satisfying. A woman who receives nothing in return for sex will generally just feel used and not be satisfied from a mental standpoint. Maybe there are some exceptions, but for the most part, women are hard-wired to want something in return for sex. Their enjoyment is secondary to this need.
As for me, I don't worry about pleasing the woman. You can't figure that shit out no matter how hard you try. It's not like they are going to actually tell you what you like. Most of the time they don't even know themselves. I just do what I like and hope they like it too.
......That's why it's so rare for a working girl to truly enjoy sex on the job......You need to go to Brazil.
LuvMexicanas
04-28-25, 06:59
You need to go to Brazil.Been to Brazil, Sao Paolo to be specific. It was good no question, but some of us simply don't have the most precious commodity which is time. I don't have eight luxury cars in my garage, but money is less of a constraint for me than time. Losing 15-18 hours with connecting flights getting somewhere and the same getting back is simply untenable for some of us.
You need to go to Brazil.Exactly.
That line alone really shows how weak the talent is in Tijuana.
Brazilians girls love to fuck and it's part of their 3 FS (Food, Fucking and Football).
I talk to some of my Brazilians girls on a weekly basis and they are always down to fuck, video and BBFS.
Had a girl just recently ask me to fly her out to that states. No pay, she just wanted to have a little vacation around my state and we could fuck as much as I wanted.
The Tijuana girls just don't have that same energy to make it worth my time and money.
Tijuana is good for someone who only knows American strips clubs.
It's so bad and outdated when compared to Brazil and how they operate over there.
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