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Admin
01-01-06, 01:00
Thread Starter.

Jaimito Cartero
03-03-06, 00:58
For those looking for inexpensive tickets to GRU and GIG, check out LAN. There have been a lot of low rates lately, but the $499 plus tax that LAN has seems to be quite good. Has one stop in Lima.

Lover Boy #2
03-03-06, 07:49
Jaimito C.....you always have good Flyer Talk.

RxHammer
03-03-06, 23:56
Guys,

www.flycheapol.com I've been using these guys for 4+ years and they are rarely beat. My ticket for March 13th is going for $689 plus a $40 service fee so a total $729. I missed it at $649+$40 or $689 total from US west coast. They favor Continental but recently started selling "Q" class economy fares which only grant 50% elite mileage credit, bummer. The old tickets were "Y" and you recieved full elite credit. Anyway, sometimes their quotes are high so just be patient and check back regularly, they will drop. It seems the price gets better closer to your departure (??)......

Hammer

PS if you need to speak/email them ask for Sara, she's very helpful...

Scotch
03-20-06, 22:29
I will be in Rio From the April 15th to the 22. Any other mongers going to be around hit me up and let have a drink on me.

Long John 200
03-24-06, 02:05
Any one looking for cheap flights from canada ? Check out this site out http://www.flyforless.ca/ They have tickets from YEG to GIG for $1400 including taxes. Air Canada was going to charge me $2200 CAD and it is on the same plane.

Jose Sanchez
04-09-06, 01:32
I will be in Rio April 29 - May 6 for mongering... It is my 4th trip and on other trips, I have met up with other mongers and had a good time. If there are any other guys flying solo drop me a line.

Also... In the past I have stayed in some nice hotels. I am considering getting a retal place, but I want something very high end... do you guys have any links or advice?

Jose

Pelicano
04-11-06, 22:07
Anyone planing a trip should reconsider using Varig, since it could leave you stranded. Varig has been close to bankruptcy for several years and it is facing a new crisis, which might end it for them unless the government steps in to save them, but according to the article it is very unlikely to happen.

Meanwhile TAM is expanding flights to Brazil, a new one to Manus to open in June and Gol is expanding its domestic and latin american flights..

Funcionários da Varig acusam governo de negligência
Agência Estado

Funcionários da Varig literalmente vestiram a camisa da empresa e manifestaram-se hoje a favor de uma intervenção do governo federal, a quem acusam de negligência no caso. Reunidos pela manhã na sede da Varig, ao lado do Aeroporto de Congonhas, em São Paulo, um grupo de 10 comissários que se intitula "variganos" fez uma defesa veemente da empresa, que completará 79 anos em maio.

"O governo e o Departamento de Aviação Civil (DAC) vão deixar a Varig falir para atender interesses de outras companhias", disseram os aeronautas. Uma faixa na frente de um dos portões da empresa afirmava o seguinte: " Acordem: não deixem que a Varig desapareça por negligência de um governo comprovadamente corrupto". No aeroporto, os balcões de check-in da Varig estavam hoje bastante tranqüilos, enquanto que nos da Gol havia filas de mais de 40 minutos de espera

Pelicano
04-13-06, 16:50
Varig may be on the way out, avoid being stranded:

Thusday, April 13-0842
Government admits varig may go bankrupt and studies a plan B
Agency Estado

The possibility of Varig facing bankruptcy is already admited by sources from the government. The failure of the company is becoming more certain every day, with the worsening economic situation, and a new factor in that President Lula determined not to authorize using public funds to help the company, wich has debts of over 7 bilion.

Qui, 13 Abr - 08h42

Governo já admite falência da Varig e estuda plano B

Agência Estado

A possibilidade de falência da Varig já é admitida por fontes do governo. A quebra da empresa está se configurando a cada dia com o agravamento da situação financeira e ganhou um novo fator determinante com a decisão do presidente Lula de não autorizar a liberação de dinheiro público para sanear a companhia, que tem uma dívida acumulada de mais de R$ 7 bilhões.

Fast Eddie 48
04-13-06, 19:53
I will be going to sao paulo for business in may from the US for a week and go
to china for business after that , Do any one know which airline offer direct
flight from brazil to hong kong or bangkok .


fast eddie 48

Owl_
04-17-06, 11:11
I will be making my first trip to Brazil and Rio De Janeiro this coming May 16th to 23rd. I hope to make it to some of the clubs and sites in Rio and sample the local products while there. In the mean time I'll be rading up here on what is available in area.

Dr Licks
04-18-06, 00:23
I will be making my first trip to Brazil and Rio De Janeiro this coming May 16th to 23rd. I hope to make it to some of the clubs and sites in Rio and sample the local products while there. In the mean time I'll be rading up here on what is available in area.I will be making for my first trip around the 18th. My boys had to cancel do to conflicts with work, so I may need a wing man!

Vatel69
04-18-06, 00:46
I will be going to sao paulo for business in may from the US for a week and go
to china for business after that , Do any one know which airline offer direct
flight from brazil to hong kong or bangkok .


fast eddie 48

Best will for you to take a flight to LA and from there you take a direct flight.
Brazil doesnt have direct flight to Asia. You either go thru US or Europe.
You can try AA, JAL, United, Asiana and Varig(it may go belly up). If you go thru LA, the lay over is about 3 hours.

Sperto
04-18-06, 06:32
Brazil doesnt have direct flight to Asia. You either go thru US or Europe...
Or Africa, via Johannesburg.

Owl_
04-18-06, 07:09
Hi Doc,

I'll be busy with non hobbying friends until the 22nd. Then I'll only have one night of fun for myself. I'll be in the Copcabana area the time I'm there. Maybe we can meet up that Monday!


I will be making for my first trip around the 18th. My boys had to cancel do to conflicts with work, so I may need a wing man!

Fast Eddie 48
04-19-06, 23:18
Or Africa, via Johannesburg.


to sperto / vatel 69 thank for your help

I just check airfare sao paulo to johannesburg on varig air and johannesburg
to hong kong on cathay pacific fare is $ 1345.00 usd with lay over is over 32
hr , I think is better off to come back to US first and take cathay pacific from
new york .


fast eddie 48

Wild Cherokee
04-20-06, 15:34
I'll be traveling to Rio with a fellow mongerer during the aforementioned dates. We are newbies to Rio although we have been doing our due diligence. Are there any experienced Rio mongerers looking for wingmen? How about other newbies?

Dr Licks
04-21-06, 06:02
Hi Doc,

I'll be busy with non hobbying friends until the 22nd. Then I'll only have one night of fun for myself. I'll be in the Copcabana area the time I'm there. Maybe we can meet up that Monday!Sounds cool. I should have gotten a feel for things by then. I'm still ironing out my exact accomodations but I should end up in the Copa near MP and Help if possible.

Vatel69
04-21-06, 06:54
to sperto / vatel 69 thank for your help

I just check airfare sao paulo to johannesburg on varig air and johannesburg
to hong kong on cathay pacific fare is $ 1345.00 usd with lay over is over 32
hr , I think is better off to come back to US first and take cathay pacific from
new york .


fast eddie 48

You should fly thru LA. It takes less time.

Turf Builder
04-25-06, 23:53
I'm looking for Rio hotel suggestions. Will be staying with the gf in Rio next month. Would like a hotel in Copa, Ipanema or Leblon, that is nice and clean, within walking distance of the praia and not expensive. I've stayed at Marina Palace and Sol Ipanema. Both were nice but a tad pricey.

We will be spending one day at the US consulate up on Avenida President Wilson, but I am assuming that we do not want to stay near Flamengo/Gloria area.

Any recommendations are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Turf Builder

Rio Bob
05-09-06, 00:10
I just checked out Air fares to Rio up to Feb 2007 and Continental Airlines has fares $550 plus tax from Newark. this is very good as the prices recently have been in the $1000 as most of you know and I wouldn't expect these prices to last either, I just bought mine for the next trip.

Jmioffe
05-21-06, 07:31
Coming into town, looking for folks to hang out. I'm in my 30s, decent looking, athletic and got fair game. I know this town pretty well -- It'll be my fifth time visiting, but I'm kind of an on-and-off monger.

I'll probably live out my porn star dreams the first day, do it three, four, five times.

But I know how I am, and I'll get bored by the second or third day and look for something more edifying. Maybe head down the shore to Buzios.

Be either not-quite-so single-minded, or terribly single-minded. I think I get bored because I'm still on a bit of a mental leash. Itd be good to let my devil out some more.

Ibiza007
05-21-06, 23:25
Talk to lancer, but this seems to be OK for people, close to help, close to praia, etc.

Rua Xavier de Silveria.

IBZ



I'm looking for Rio hotel suggestions. Will be staying with the gf in Rio next month. Would like a hotel in Copa, Ipanema or Leblon, that is nice and clean, within walking distance of the praia and not expensive. I've stayed at Marina Palace and Sol Ipanema. Both were nice but a tad pricey.

We will be spending one day at the US consulate up on Avenida President Wilson, but I am assuming that we do not want to stay near Flamengo/Gloria area.

Any recommendations are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Turf Builder

StickShifterX
06-11-06, 20:10
Aunsa,

I have pm'd you.

I am in Rio from 17th - 20th.

Anybody else around?

S

StickShifterX
06-11-06, 20:50
Hello!

I'll be in Rio de Janeiro this coming week, from the 16th of June...Please PM if you wanna get together...I've been to Rio over 30 times, so know the city well...I'm from London, England...ThanksHave pm'd you.

I will be thee from this Saturday.

S

Amerioca
06-22-06, 01:48
What is the deal with Varig? I was about to book my flight online via their website, however, during the process a question came to mind. Put everything on hold, and quickly called them. A recording answered and stated that all flights in/out of LAX were cancelled until further notice. WTF?

Amerioca
06-22-06, 01:53
Just got off the phone with Varig's regular 800 reservation. All Varig flights have been cancelled out of LAX.

Rio Bob
06-22-06, 03:05
What is the deal with Varig? I was about to book my flight online via their website, however, during the process a question came to mind. Put everything on hold, and quickly called them. A recording answered and stated that all flights in/out of LAX were cancelled until further notice. WTF?

Varig has been having big problems for at least a year or more and in recent weeks it is in trouble of going out of business. The employees are trying to buy it as well as others, seems to be complicated securing financing and accepting current debt. Find another carrier, forget about Varig for now. Read this board as Varigs story has been posted here by many posters.

Varig Suspends International Flights to 10 Cities (Update3)
June 21 (Bloomberg) -- Varig, the Brazilian airline that has operated in bankruptcy for a year, suspended flights to 10 international destinations including New York, Los Angeles and Madrid, after U.S. courts forced it to ground planes.

Porto Alegre, Brazil-based Varig, the country's biggest international carrier, said in a statement it will continue service to some cities abroad such as Miami, Frankfurt, London, Buenos Aires, Lima, Santiago and Caracas.

Cancellations

The carrier, which is trying to reorganize its more than 7 billion reais ($3 billion) of debt in bankruptcy, has canceled 162 of its 180 flights daily between midnight and 10:30 a.m. New York time, Brazil's airport authority said. The carrier called off 118 flights yesterday, the airport authority said.

Domestic carriers such as TAM and Gol Linhas Aereas SA are taking Varig passengers with no charge, following a contingency plan by the country's civil aviation regulator, a spokeswoman for the regulator in Brasilia said.

Travel agents are concerned cancellations will increase as of next week when Brazil's travel season begins with the school winter holidays.

``Our customers are scared,'' said Valdenice Aparecida, a travel agent at Agencia Jorge de Turismo e Passagens Ltda. in Sao Paulo. ``We have a lot of customers who bought Varig tickets asking for their money back. But it will be impossible to for them to get any reimbursement.''

Amerioca
06-23-06, 22:39
Yeah, I knew they were having some problems, however, it was a big shock to me (yesterday) when the agent stated that all flights were cancelled indefinately. I hope Varig gets it together. What flights I have taken with them were always comfortable, and on time.

I ended up booking a flight with AA for a little over a $1k (including tax). Again, it is a RT from LAX. This was the best rate available at the time.

Today, I visited the consulate in LA to apply for my visa. Man, what a-holes. As soon as I turned in the paperwork at the counter, the lady looked it over, and then marked "90-days." WTF? I asked if I could get the 5-years, and she stated, "You have no right to ask that. It is our choice what to give you." Man, what a FKN ****.

What is the deal with the visas these days? Back when, a 5-years were a given. I've heard reports of fellow mongers receiving the 90-days in the past year.

Junior
06-24-06, 12:04
Hi,

I am heading back to Rio from july 7th.

I have been to Rio numerous times, speak portuguese and am i my mid thirties. Termas are my preferred scene, but I am somewhat open to other suggestions too.

If anyone is around and would like to hook up - let me know.

Junior

Rio Bob
06-25-06, 14:21
Just got off the phone with Varig's regular 800 reservation. All Varig flights have been cancelled out of LAX.

The Brazilian government has put two Boeing 707 Air Force jets on standby to retrieve stranded Varig ticket holders overseas and two smaller planes to assist passengers in Latin America.

Tokyo via AA
06-25-06, 22:26
I know it's a month off, but the trip is booked so here I am. I'll be in Rio in four weeks, my first visit to Brazil. Would be interested in meeting up with seasoned veterans and wingmen for "help" (LOL) with avoiding trouble. Pretty sure I can handle the Termas, but the freelance stuff will be pretty new to me (and I am definitely interested in having a few slumber parties LOL).

I've booked the JW Marriott for now -- I know some of their other locations have been "guest friendly" (but if Rio's isn't, can someone let me know?).

Balman
06-26-06, 22:01
Does anybody know whether other airlines accept Varig tickets on domestic flights (GOL/TAM etc)?

Have anbody been able to cancel their reservations with Varig, and get their money back? I spoke to one of the consultants, which told me that I would get my money back, but that it would take at least three months!

Adventurer
07-01-06, 06:23
Hey guys,

Heading back to Rio July 4-9.

If your in town and wana get together for some fun at thermas or help, or a bite to eat PM me.

IM 38, decent looking and speak a little Portuguese.

Amerioca
07-04-06, 20:00
Will be in town from the 7th to 22nd. Plan to hit my usual spots. Valeu!

El Greco
07-04-06, 22:49
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060703/bs_afp/brazilairlinecompany_060703210719

Because of best price I was only flying on Varig for the last few years.
Last month I booked my next October ticket to BUE & RIO with British Airways.
Did not think VARIG could make it untill then.

El Greco

Crypton
07-11-06, 21:12
Any one will be in Rio between August 15-18 and willing to meet up? I am first timer to Brasil and would love some company. PM me please.

Cheers.

Tomageroma
07-13-06, 00:33
Hi,

I been in Rio in April 2005 and I will be in rio this year from 29/09/06 to 15/10/06 and in Buenos aires from 16/10/06 to 31/10/06...Any one want to meet a great "Helpe" experience? I;m from Spain and speak portuguese a little be. Send me a PM.

Cheers!

FrequentFlyer
07-15-06, 20:21
I am making my first trip to Rio next week and staying in an apartment in Copa (usually go to Asia somewhere).
If anyone wants to hook up and hang out, just drop me a line.

Mr Safado
07-16-06, 08:54
Frequent Flyer you are a respect and most familiar kindred spirit to your new friend - if you please - Mr. Safado. Yours truly will be landing in Rio, a cidade marvioloso [the city marvolous], this next Saturday 7/22.

This will be my luckey adventure number 13 to Brasil in the last five years. I do have a 'lega'l [cool, good - great] circle of true friends in the Rio area and have explored +/- a dozen cities/region throught the incredable world that is Brasil. I do not have the debth of experience in Brasil that you have in Asia, but I can definately share with you some valuable experience and introduce to some people that you can trust. And that is a illusionary, rare and vital commodity out there in the traveling life we lead.

Anything I can do to help you out will be small service in comparison to the scope, quanity and quality of contributions that you have offered to this ISG community.

I speak communicable Portuguese and am, with respect, your new friend Mr. Safado aka: BB from SB.

Sunset Strip
07-16-06, 23:11
TJ will be in Rio (third time this year) during early August. I will be leaving on the 20th of August.

Be prepared for reports on Mabs, Miami Video Show, and luomo (AKA my spots!).

I also plan on making a side trip to Sao Paulo for the first time.


TJ

Crypton
07-18-06, 00:18
TJ will be in Rio (third time this year) during early August. I will be leaving on the 20th of August.
Be prepared for reports on Mabs, Miami Video Show, and luomo (AKA my spots!).
I also plan on making a side trip to Sao Paulo for the first time.
TJ

Hey TJ,

What are the exact dates you are in Rio? I will be there from Aug 15-18. PM if these dates are when you will be there.

Cheers.

Almotu
07-22-06, 12:56
After nearly a year away, I will be in Brazil once again beginning Aug 8. I will arrive and stay in Sao Paulo for about a week. (not sure of my exact departure date to Rio yet but probably Aug 14 or 15) I leave Brazil out of Rio on Aug 22. PM me if you want to hang out.

Almotu

Crypton
07-22-06, 19:56
After nearly a year away, I will be in Brazil once again beginning Aug 8. I will arrive and stay in Sao Paulo for about a week. (not sure of my exact departure date to Rio yet but probably Aug 14 or 15) I leave Brazil out of Rio on Aug 22. PM me if you want to hang out.

Almotu

Almotu

I will be in Rio from Aug 15-18. PM when your dates for Rio arrival are finalized.

Cheers

Fabiovolo
07-23-06, 17:47
Dear friends,

I'll be in Rio with 2 friends from 10 to 30 august. It's our first time. Looking for fellow mongers to hit the scene.

Contact me at [Email address deleted by Admin]

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Crypton
07-28-06, 01:31
Dear friends,

I'll be in Rio with 2 friends from 10 to 30 august. It's our first time. Looking for fellow mongers to hit the scene.

Contact me at [Email address deleted by Admin]



Fabiovolo,

See my post below for dates I will be in Rio.

FreeWilly
07-28-06, 21:41
I am going to be Rio for about a month starting Aug 3rd.

I'd love to meet up with some regulars (or not so regulars) and do some prowling with.

Staying in Copa on Rua Miguel Lemos & visiting all the usual places.

If anyone wants to hang out (ok, not THAT kind of hang out!) or go out on the prowl with another, send me an email at this site.

Aloha.

FreeWilly

Ajordan
07-30-06, 20:30
Will also be in rio the 19th-26 of August.

Havent book a hotel or appartment yet. Any tips.

First timer.. pointers always welcome.

Regars,

a23

FreeWilly
07-31-06, 06:35
If you have not already, call David at www.gringomanagment.com
& Kenn at www.ez-riorentals.com and Dieine at www.copaapartments.com

See what they have available. I am sure they have apartments available, but probably not very much.

Get an apartment if you are planning on having girls. I never stay at hotels (even guest friendly ones) it just is not worth the hassles.

Most of all have fun. Don't get too drunk at Help, Don't carry much cash, no jewelry, watches etc... never get into any beefs with the locals unless they cannot be avoided.(and then try harder to avoid them!)

Remember you are here for fun and you will be ok...

If you are around, maybe we could have a beer or something.

Oh Yea, and watch out for that Georgeous Blond chick on Ave Atlantica with the great looking tits... and the bulge from a 7" clit in her panties.

"When in doubt, check it out"

(before taking her to your room!)

Aloha,

Will


Will also be in rio the 19th-26 of August.

Havent book a hotel or appartment yet. Any tips.

First timer.. pointers always welcome.

Regars,

a23

Pana Nyc
07-31-06, 16:49
I will be in Rio 9/12-9/20 solo so if any one who is there during the same time wants to hang pm me so we can set something up. Im not new to the Mongering game but I have decided to step it up and take a break from DR my regular spot which will always be my home, and finally make it to the Land Of Milk And Honey Brasil.

Helpmann
07-31-06, 22:37
I will be in Rio 9/12-9/20 solo so if any one who is there during the same time wants to hang pm me so we can set something up. Im not new to the Mongering game but I have decided to step it up and take a break from DR my regular spot which will always be my home, and finally make it to the Land Of Milk And Honey Brasil.
Have a good trip! I'm returning to Rio in October!

-Helpmann :)

Paxsie
08-01-06, 05:24
Hi fellas,

We will be a group of three trying to organize a trip together to visit RIO and B.A. for about 10 days. Does anybody know of a good travel agency/website for us to book a combo deal?

Thanks in advance!

Royal21
08-07-06, 05:01
I will be in and around Rio for about 10 days. Mostly will stay in the copa area. Might take a small trip to Sao Paulo or other close by city.

Am looking for other mongers to hang around and spend some evenings at the well known watering holes.

This is my first visit to Brasil and I speak zero portuguese but have been to many countries in similar pursuit.

Send me a message and i'll send you my email in PM.

Crypton, Are your dates final?

R21

King Of Crunk
08-08-06, 03:18
Hey fellas whats up, decided to put a little message thing for my trip to Brazil this year, if there are any fellas flying solo or with a group thats down to chit chat and share a drink over some monger tales then holla at cha boy especially if you down to hit some regular nightclubs and spots for regular chicks as well as the monger spots my times are August 11-14 for Sao Paulo and August 20-27 for Rio so if anyone is down holla this shit is definately "no homo" as dipset would say peace out fellas.

Knuckhead
08-14-06, 00:20
Sexplorer will have a short visit to Sao Paolo on the dates above.

I am doing one of my (three times a year) Pilgrimages to Buenos Aires August 18th through 20th, and I thought I'd stop by Sao Paulo for a quick "hello" ;).

I'd love to hear from like-minded gentelmongers in town during this period.

Sexplorer

Genghois
08-16-06, 22:19
Hey guys,

I'll be in Rio in a couple of weeks, and wouldn't mind hooking up with some experienced Rio hands. Been to Rio a couple of times, but was on business so little time for mischief. Anyone willing to show a Rio near-newbie the ropes, drop me a PM.

Mister_Smooth
08-25-06, 16:28
Guys, thanks in advance. I'll be heading down for my first trip to Rio over New Years. I have been offered an apt on Rua Raul Pompeia, just off the corner of Rua Francisco Sa between Ipanema and Copa.

Does anyone know this area? I have been warned by someone else that there is a favela nearby and that this can be a dangerous area.

If you know this neighborhood pm me or please post here to give advice.

Rio Bob
08-27-06, 18:32
Guys, thanks in advance. I'll be heading down for my first trip to Rio over New Years. I have been offered an apt on Rua Raul Pompeia, just off the corner of Rua Francisco Sa between Ipanema and Copa.

Does anyone know this area? I have been warned by someone else that there is a favela nearby and that this can be a dangerous area.

If you know this neighborhood pm me or please post here to give advice.

A friend of mine rented an apartment near here several months ago, I went to visit him a couple of times, this neighborhood looked fine, should be no problem. But of course at night take a taxi home and walk into your building rapido.

Mangera
08-27-06, 20:33
I agree with Rio Bob, you should be fine in that location, but use a taxi at night. I have stayed a couple of blocks from the fevela you mentioned, on Rual Pompeia about a year ago, I did not encounter any problems.. But always be cautious.

navar4500
08-28-06, 04:19
Guys,

I'm thinking of going to Rio with a friend in early December for 2 weeks. My friend was researching and came up with this tours gone wild for about 2K for 10 days not including food, but including lodging and transportation, and VIP classes to clubs. I don't know the value, but I'm thinking I could get a pretty nice apartment for 10 days with my friend for that and have lots to spend on the girls. I have no problems meeting women in the US, will it be easy to meet non-pros or do I have to have some connection down there to go to the cool clubs. Thanks

RxHammer
08-28-06, 08:57
Navar4500,

Is that 2k per person ? if so it's too much. Go, rent a 2 bedroom apartment and save your cash for fun.
Do you speak Portuguese? If no, forget picking up local girls in clubs, it will be extremely difficult if you can not speak to them. Some speak english but not that many. Go to the clubs and have fun (I go all the time) but keep your expectations in check. VIP passes to get in?....Not worth it IMHO.

Read Bubby Boys guide, follow it and you will have all the fun you can handle. Why waste time and energy on local girls when there are SO many girls available for pay 4 play ?? Hit the termas (they are GREAT!!) and go to Help for p4p. I like to hit the termas, hook up with a girl you like and meet her after she get off work. She can show you all the fun spots like clubs, bars, where to eat, (just like a date ! ) etc....works like a charm. You'll have a blast. Plus, if you don't speak Portuguese your chances of meeting a girl in a terma (depending on the terma) that speaks english (at least a little) is pretty good.
Feel free to PM me with any questions...(BTW i've been to Rio 30+ times in 5 years, if that helps....)

RxHammer

Java Man
08-28-06, 16:27
navar4500:
$2k for 10 days.
here's the way i see it:
a decent 2 bedroom apartment should cost $100/day. that's $1k. is tranportation and VIP passes to clubs worth another $1K to you? to give you an idea of transportation costs, a taxi cab to the airport is, like, $25 from copa, which is quite a distance. is there a "tour guide" included in this package? btw, where did you find this tour and can you provide a link?
meals are cheap in Rio. depending on what and how much and where you're drinking, your bar tab will be higher.
your connection to get into the cool clubs, is $$$.
from the sounds of it, i don't believe this package is monger oriented. I'll assume you want to monger since you're here. (anyone get a VIP passes to a termas?)
IMHO, i dont see this package as being a good value.

Toshw2
08-28-06, 21:22
Guys, thanks in advance. I'll be heading down for my first trip to Rio over New Years. I have been offered an apt on Rua Raul Pompeia, just off the corner of Rua Francisco Sa between Ipanema and Copa.

Does anyone know this area? I have been warned by someone else that there is a favela nearby and that this can be a dangerous area.

If you know this neighborhood pm me or please post here to give advice.I've stayed in a hotel on Rua Francisco San and walked around the streets at all times of the day and night and didn't have a problem. Some of the adjacent streets can be a bit quiet and dark, overhanging trees, at night so I'd keep my eyes open for unscrupulous persons. Ultimately it depends on how confident you are and whether you regard yourself as a prime target for crooks, if so play it safe and get a taxi.

navar4500
08-29-06, 13:59
Guys,

Thanks for the info. I was thinking the price was too high. I speak a little spanish, but no portuguese. I was definitiely going to try pay for play but wanted to try non-pros as well. When I went to Peru, I had a girlfriend inside of a week and got some pro action too. I was hoping for a similar experience in Brazil, but maybe the language barrier will be too much.

Java Man
08-29-06, 20:31
navar:
any GF you make in Rio will more than likely be a pro.

navar4500
08-30-06, 04:26
navar:

any GF you make in Rio will more than likely be a pro.Here's the link to the tours gone wild... I believe for 10 days it includes airfair from SFO for 2K for 10 days.

http://www.toursgonewild.com/rio_packages.asp

Java Man
08-30-06, 06:43
since it includes airfare it's actually not a bad deal IMHO. i misunderstood what you meant by transportation in your original post.
R/T airfare alone cost me $1k from Chicago. i don't know what it is from SFO.
i looked at the hotels they use and maybe only one, the Ceasars Park in Ipanema may be Garota friendly. (i don't know as i only stay in apartments.) i believe the Ceasars Park charges over $100/day for a room. hopefully, someone else here can chime in on this.
it still looks like its not monger oriented. it has a "spring break" feel to it.
sounds like they're gonna take you to a bunch clubs, where you can mingle with the locals. good luck trying to pick-up a hottie. you'll also need more luck getting her into the hotel.
one other thing, since it's a tour you're locked into their activities and may find it difficult to go on your own.
if you want to monger, IMHO, this isn't the way to do it.

nice site,BTW; i just wonder where they're located. they don't show a street address, only a telephone # in Florida. but the site is registered in CA. i'd like a street address at least before i send anyone $2k of my hard earned money. just in case any problems arise.

RxHammer
08-30-06, 14:59
Guys,

Last I heard this hotel was going for $200US+/night which is way too much. Of course deals can always be made help lower the price but why hassle with getting "guests" into your room. You can rent very nice apartments (2br) not far from Caesar Park (my favorite stretch of Ipanema beach btw) for $100-120US/night split by two guys...cheap! And if you still want to go to "regular" clubs Melt and Baronetti are very close......

www.flycheapol.com has airfare for around $980 from San Fran.....
Plus, no need for a tour guide, just hook up with like minded mongers that are repeat visitors and you have an istant "free" tour guide (lol) !!!!

Hammer

Java Man
08-30-06, 17:37
http://airlineconsolidator.com/
they're based in TX and it seems they have access to every
airline in the world.

navar4500
08-31-06, 02:00
Thanks Chingon an RXHammer for your input and advice. I also read the Bubba reports and those where quite good! I'm already salivating about the garotas in Brazil.

Wild Cherokee
08-31-06, 14:22
Alas Gentlemen, I will be returning to the sacred hunting grounds of Rio, along with two fellow mongerers, on Saturday September 2nd. We will taste the various delicacies of this sunny land until our departure on Sunday September 10th.

This will be our 2nd trip. As our first was largely confined to Copa and Impanema (except for tourist activities), we plan to venture into Centro and other surrounding cities this time.

If any other fellow mongerers (seasoned or newbies) would like to meet and share in the happy hunting festivities, please PM me. I don't believe you can ever have too many wingmen in Rio. On the contrary, I believe that it actually raises everyone's stock.

Regards,

WC

P.S. I will attempt to refrain from kissing the ground upon arrival!

MrLowDown
09-01-06, 01:25
Does anyone know what cellular service providers from the US allow roaming with caller ID to/from the states..and text messaging to/from the states. Currently I have sprint and it's not supported in Brazil. Any information is appreciated.

Thanks,

Lowdown

Java Man
09-01-06, 05:48
mrlowdown:
Nextel

Genghois
09-01-06, 13:44
Alas Gentlemen, I will be returning to the sacred hunting grounds of Rio, along with two fellow mongerers, on Saturday September 2nd. We will taste the various delicacies of this sunny land until our departure on Sunday September 10th.

WC

Hey, WC. I'll be arriving Sept 2 late afternoon. Drop me a note and let's hook up. Tried to PM you but couldn't, for some reason?

Mr Enternational
09-04-06, 09:27
Does anyone know what cellular service providers from the US allow roaming with caller ID to/from the states..and text messaging to/from the states. Currently I have sprint and it's not supported in Brazil. Any information is appreciated.

Thanks,

LowdownT-mobile as well. However, it will be pretty expensive. I can´t remember if it is $2.99 or $3.99/minute from Brazil. I do know that text messages are $1. I usually switch out my chip when I am in other countries, however while in El Salvador last month I made the mistake of turning my phone on with the T-mobile chip in it. I didn´t make any calls but it notified me that I had voice mails and it also rang on a couple of incomings. I think T-mobile charged me $27 or so because when you are roaming they still have to pay to use other towers to notify your phone that you have a message or an incoming call. So there was a $2.99 charge for each one.

I know with Nextel you can use the walkie-talkie deal for $.10/minute around the world. But when I´m out of the states I have no inclination to communicate with anyone back home. They can wait until I return.

Toshw2
09-04-06, 19:44
T-mobile as well. However, it will be pretty expensive. I can´t remember if it is $2.99 or $3.99/minute from Brazil. I do know that text messages are $1. I usually switch out my chip when I am in other countries, however while in El Salvador last month I made the mistake of turning my phone on with the T-mobile chip in it. I didn´t make any calls but it notified me that I had voice mails and it also rang on a couple of incomings. I think T-mobile charged me $27 or so because when you are roaming they still have to pay to use other towers to notify your phone that you have a message or an incoming call. So there was a $2.99 charge for each one.

I know with Nextel you can use the walkie-talkie deal for $.10/minute around the world. But when I´m out of the states I have no inclination to communicate with anyone back home. They can wait until I return.Sounds like a total butt f*ck I'll have to watch out for that one! Thanks for the info.

Pana Nyc
09-09-06, 17:46
Left and I'll be in Rio from 9/12-9/20, and I cant wait, to bad you are going next month Helpmann, I'll try not to wear these brazlian bundas to much before you get there.

Orang05
09-14-06, 20:32
Several months ago there was much chatter here about impending bankruptcy of Varig. Quiet since. I need to fly EZE-GIG on 15 November, return 6 Dec. The best daytime connections by far are on Varig, but about the same fare as TAM-Aerolineas (awful connections).

Varig Website is naturally mum on their future. They will sell the ticket. Cheapseats.com is the only other vender (no Orbitz, etc.) offers this route by Varig. I am suspicious.

Any counsel from you knowledgeable folks out there? I'd like to avoid a 3AM or 5 AM departure from EZE, and a 4-8 hour flight (with stops and connections). But I would also like to avoid spending US$350 for worthless tickets in hand at EZE. (Got caught that way with Pan Am in Bombay years ago and vowed, "never again.")

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, gents!

Voyajer1
09-15-06, 02:09
Several months ago there was much chatter here about impending bankruptcy of Varig. Quiet since. I need to fly EZE-GIG on 15 November, return 6 Dec. The best daytime connections by far are on Varig, but about the same fare as TAM-Aerolineas (awful connections).

Varig Website is naturally mum on their future. They will sell the ticket. Cheapseats.com is the only other vender (no Orbitz, etc.) offers this route by Varig. I am suspicious.

Any counsel from you knowledgeable folks out there? I'd like to avoid a 3AM or 5 AM departure from EZE, and a 4-8 hour flight (with stops and connections). But I would also like to avoid spending US$350 for worthless tickets in hand at EZE. (Got caught that way with Pan Am in Bombay years ago and vowed, "never again.")

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, gents!Gol Airlines will get you there and back for about $75 less. Here is their website: http://www.voegol.com.br/INT/

Let us know how it worked out for you. Good luck.

Bubba Boy
09-15-06, 13:56
Varig were purchased by their freight business. Hence they are back in business. They were released of their debts, hence they have a reasonable chance of surving. It is a decent bet they will be around for a while but only time will tell.

Gol are ok, but you will pay more than USD$75. I have done their flight which connects in POA. At that point you usually need to clear customs before getting back on a domestic flight. There is only a 1 hour time frame to do this, I have made it in this time frame the 3 or 4 times I have flown through this route.

Varig is the better connection.

Carlos Primeros
09-16-06, 18:02
NEVER EVER fly VARIG - better walk!!!! I have made now a flight with them - the very worst experience. They are the same arrogant incompetent bunch they had been before!!!!!

Any other airline is better.

I bough a tickt with them, first flight simply cancelled because no aircraft was avialable, than a old 737 which they borrowed form a museum - not cleaned, filthy, 7 hours delay without explanation. i wanted to return my ticket and fly with GOL - they refuse to refund the money and told me to wait. I waited all in all 10 hours from SAO to GIG, I could have taken the bus and beat it by 5 hours.

Carlos

King in Exile (unfortunately not Rio)

El Greco
09-16-06, 23:04
Several months ago there was much chatter here about impending bankruptcy of Varig. Quiet since. I need to fly EZE-GIG on 15 November, return 6 Dec. The best daytime connections by far are on Varig, but about the same fare as TAM-Aerolineas (awful connections).

Varig Website is naturally mum on their future. They will sell the ticket. Cheapseats.com is the only other vender (no Orbitz, etc.) offers this route by Varig. I am suspicious.

Any counsel from you knowledgeable folks out there? I'd like to avoid a 3AM or 5 AM departure from EZE, and a 4-8 hour flight (with stops and connections). But I would also like to avoid spending US$350 for worthless tickets in hand at EZE. (Got caught that way with Pan Am in Bombay years ago and vowed, "never again.")

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, gents!

Check out Lufthansa (daily flights) and British Airways (4-5 flights/week).
I don't know their prices but have a look at them too.

Orang05
09-17-06, 05:45
Thank you all very much. I have the message: "Forget Varig". I'll try GOL - I had good luck flying them internally throughout Brasil in a few months ago. I'll report on what I find and experience!

MisterE103
09-26-06, 16:03
Will be in Rio Oct 3rd-9th 06. from L.A. by myself. Anyone wanna hang and find some brazilian ass together let me know ;)I arrive on the 2nd and another friend of mine (getting married) will arrive on the 7th so I'll be free to hang out.

I'll be staying in an apt. on the beach above Syndicato de Choppe. Message me back after you receive this message with your email or where you'll be so we can hook up.

Reese

Bubba Boy
09-27-06, 16:01
1. Rio for a month, good idea or bad?

Are you kidding me? 2 months is even better!


2. Apartment via Hotel?, I am in favour of Apartment.
An apartment will be a lot cheaper than a hotel over a month, more cash for P4P. Adding to this you will have the benefit of no problems with guests, although if you go for a ultra lux apartment I would confirm with the booking agent that guests are not a problem. Some expensive apartment blocks have certain strata rules to combat mongers bringing in GDP's by the truckload.


3.Copa or Ipan Beach?.
Both good. First time visit I would lean to Copa. It is closer to everything, you will be able to walk to most places.


4 Has anybody heard of the Dream Apartment on Copa beach? Yes it exists. I checked it out. A very pimped out pad. Has a large bed in the living room and a stage for girls to dance on. Location is great as well, about 5 blocks from help. A definite option for a months stay, although it is not on the beach, it is 1 block back with limited views on Rua Francisco Sa.

MisterE103
09-28-06, 14:21
Since we'll both be staying within close proximity of each other we can meet up at one of the restuarants along the beach. I don't have the exact apt no. (or cell )yet but it will be in the building directly above "Syndicato de Choppe". We can meet up there for a beer. It's just a five minute walk from Rua Bolivar along Ave Atlantica. I'll be in town around 1 p.m. on Monday. Just pick a time after that and I'll meet you there.

Rabbone1111
09-29-06, 12:03
In Rio for my sophmore tour by myself. Looking for some hunting partners. Also never been to Vila Mimosa. Would love to get the guided tour.

The Bucket
09-30-06, 19:58
http://blog.johnbaeyens.com/2006/09/google-maps-brazil/

Mongo II
10-09-06, 21:04
Experienced monger, although first Trip to Rio.

Spazzio
10-13-06, 20:47
Dear friends and brazil lovers.

I will stay 2 months in Brazil from December to January.

I will like to have some more idea about places to go in Brazil, I have been Sao Paulo and in north + Victoria.

I like this time to see more and I have heart about Rio Grande do sud is great.

Are the girls crazy allover the contry or I can I wait more normal life in and not some many workings girls in sud Brazil?

I hope some of you have been other places and can give me some report.

Pana Nyc
10-14-06, 14:23
I return again for my 2nd trip to Rio and this time with some buddies are going down to experience what I did my 1st trip and I will be in quatro por quatro Mon-Thurs during the week of 12/3-12/11 is where you will find me and my friends trying to slay everything in sight there and also launching an all out assault on the garotas in the Centro and Copacabana area.

Mangera
10-14-06, 14:23
Check out Natal, in Ponta Negra beach. During December, the place will be flooded with both pros and Non-pros at the beach. Great city with lots of bars and clubs to hangout. The beach will be crawling with ladies from all over Brasil. Its a wonderful vacation spot for Brasilians.

They also have some wonderful sand dunes tours to take during the day. They are great, a must do. Its also a great beach to learn how to surf if you have never surfed before. It does not have killer waves that will blow you over, so its a perfect learning location.

Natal has many europeans being that there are direct flights from Europe to Natal. I think I may have been the only american while I was there in July.

Another spot, or city, is Florianoplois. South of Sao Paulo. Again, great surfing location, and most importantly, amazing looking Brazilian blondes, just amazing natural blondes with amazing bundas. There is an italian and german influence in Flo. Warning, it is expensive, and the girls tend to be high maintenance. They ( non-pros) also tend to be more interested in the surfer scene. There are some pros, but not many in comparison to Rio, Salvador, and other cities in Brasil.

Maybe its for you, maybe not, but I thought I would just mention those two cities. I have also been to Bahia de Salvador, but I have not been able to explore the city as much as I wanted to. It freaken rained so much when I was there, plus I got a stomach virus from eating Moceca de piexe
(traditional seafood dish in Salvador), so I could not get a good feel for the city, but there are alot of women, both pros and non pros. Good Luck! Have fun and be safe! Laters!

Spazzio
10-14-06, 16:05
Thank you for goods information.

I have been in Natal 8 time and I know the scene the and is good. But I have stay the so many time and see the girls how much they work. They are very activ and have many customers.

So i heart about floripa is good, and I have a friend he invitae me to Buzio in a big casa near the beach.

And I have been SP, I will stay 9 days for work in january. Is crazy in SP, may be the best I see.

I will start in Natal for 2 weks and then go to South Brazil , but where?

But i take more information

Member #4217
10-14-06, 16:42
I will be in Rio from Nov 1 through April 1. I can genearally be found at HELP or the veranda several nights a week. I most always wear an OD green wrag tied around my head. The girls seem to like it! Go figure! Anything to lower the price and increase the inventory.

I will be at the Copacabana Hotel Residência Apart-Hotel next to the Arcoverde Metro.

If any fellow mongers want to hook up, you now know how and where to find me.

Tom

Member #4147
10-15-06, 16:02
I'm planning on a week in Brazil next March. I have enough Hilton points for Sampa, is that hotel a fun spot or no? I also want to use my Delta miles so Rio is an option, but no Hilton there so I'd have to spring for my hotel, so if I do which.

Thanks

DFWdude
10-15-06, 18:15
I am planning a trip to Rio on the 26th or 27th of Oct for 4 nights. Not sure of the exact dates yet. I work for the airline so I get to fly for free, but space available, so that will determine the dates. I was thinking of the Atlantis Copacabana..Is it guest friendly????

Anyway if anyone wants to meet up for a beer let me know. I will probably watch some games at "The Office" on Sunday the 29th.

Member #4217
10-15-06, 21:11
I'm planning on a week in Brazil next March. I have enough Hilton points for Sampa, is that hotel a fun spot or no? I also want to use my Delta miles so Rio is an option, but no Hilton there so I'd have to spring for my hotel, so if I do which.

ThanksUse the Delta miles. It is how I am going on this trip. The flight is usually the most expensive part of a trip to Rio.

Stay in an apartment! they are cheaper, and much more girl friendly!

Tom

Pipe Layer99
10-20-06, 06:24
Planning my 2nd trip to Rio. I'm deciding between Nov and Feb time frame.

Already posted a question on the main Rio page asking about the best season to go for the hottest women.

I'm leaning towards Nov, but I think it rains a lot in Nov.

I'll post my dates here when I set them.

DD

Member #4217
10-24-06, 15:19
Would love to meet up with any one that would like to share some tips and expertise in return for a beer or two.

I am now staying at the corner of Avenida Copacabana on Rua Sa Ferrera. Can anyone tell me if this is near any of the action.If you are a newbee, then HELP and MP is right for you. Look for me in and around HELP in the evening hours, or PM me and I will give you better hook up info.

Tom

Off Road
10-26-06, 06:34
[QUOTE=, I am now staying at the corner of Avenida Copacabana on Rua Sa Ferrera. Can anyone tell me if this is near any of the action.

Irishpussyman[/QUOTE]Yes, close to the action. But as always take a taxi at night.

TheKnight
10-26-06, 22:38
That's a useful map for Help! I asked on the Rio forum if anyone knew a link (or could send a map) for the main places of ... ahem... interest(!!) in Rio.

Similar exists in Jackson's Arg Private website.

Anyhow I had zip response - so Tom's map is the first in my collection for my forthcoming adventure! Any more contributions gratefully received.

Member #4217
10-27-06, 00:29
That's a useful map for Help! I asked on the Rio forum if anyone knew a link (or could send a map) for the main places of ... ahem... interest(!!) in Rio.

Similar exists in Jackson's Arg Private website.

Anyhow I had zip response - so Tom's map is the first in my collection for my forthcoming adventure! Any more contributions gratefully received.

Mapquest map of Rio de Jameiro:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=search&countryid=BR&addtohistory=&country=BR&city=Rio+de+Janeiro&submit=Get+Map

Brazilian equivalent of mapquest:

Use the drop down menu:Put in "Rio de Janeiro" for Estado and Cidade.

For Nome da rua* put in the street name, leaving off Rua, etc.

Número is self explainatory.

Hit the "Buscar", (srearch) button and it works just like mapquest:

http://mapas.terra.com.br/Callejero/home.asp

Google maps is a satelite/ street hybred: Type in "Rio de Janeiro" hit the search button, and you have a Rio map. I sugest clicking the hybred button, so you can see the streets:

http://maps.google.com/

And, last but not least, a URL for the Rio Metro. Here you will find maps, prices and all sorts of good info. Remember that the Copacabana metro stops are the "Cardeal Arcoverde" and "Siqueira Compos" stations. L'Uomo and its arch nemisis, can't remember the na,me right now, are 1 and 2 blocks away, respectively. And Nomarada 22 is at Rua Siueira Compos 22, at the edge of the parl between Copa Beach and Rua NS Copacabana. PM me if you want more details. My apartment next week is next to the Cardeal Arcoverde station. The Cardeal Arcoverde station is closest to Princess Isabella, and the Siqueira Compos station is closest to HELP. To get to HELP, I just go out to Ave Atlantica, and jump on any bus going in the direction of Ipenema. OK, so I ride a bus for 10 blocks at R1,90. Beats the heck out of walking, and taking a taxi for R10. Oh, the (English)URL:

http://www.metrorio.com.br/english/s_campos.htm

Hope this helps all you guys,

Tom

Voyajer1
10-27-06, 13:56
I don't remember, either Pluto or Bubba's guide, but you can also use the website:

http://br.mapas.yahoo.com/

What I like about it is that it not only gives the distance in KM if you know your point of departure and destination; it also gives you an estimate on the cabfare on both tariffs (Day/night rate).


That's a useful map for Help! I asked on the Rio forum if anyone knew a link (or could send a map) for the main places of ... ahem... interest(!!) in Rio.

Similar exists in Jackson's Arg Private website.

Anyhow I had zip response - so Tom's map is the first in my collection for my forthcoming adventure! Any more contributions gratefully received.

Zidaho
10-31-06, 04:38
Would someone please help me? I just checked price with consolidator it was about $1,100 from Miami/Dallas to Rio. Flying RT to Cali was only $450.00. Maybe I should fly to Cali, monger a week, then book a flight from Cali to Rio for a couple weeks. Any advise on this?? Traveling between mid November to mid December.

PS Will post GOOD Rio/Medellin pics for info!!!

RxHammer
10-31-06, 07:54
Zidaho,

Check out www.flycheapol.com I checked 11-11-06 to 12-10-06 and got a fare of $930. The site is a consolidator out of Houston. Tickets are on Continental and earn FF mileage. I have used them for years but their prices have gone WAY up, just like everywhere else. Until this time last year they still had flights for under $800...

Hammer

Rio Bob
10-31-06, 12:29
Would someone please help me? I just checked price with consolidator it was about $1,100 from Miami/Dallas to Rio. Flying RT to Cali was only $450.00. Maybe I should fly to Cali, monger a week, then book a flight from Cali to Rio for a couple weeks. Any advise on this?? Traveling between mid November to mid December.

PS Will post GOOD Rio/Medellin pics for info!!!

www.braziliantravel.com/indexx.htm

www.bacctravel.com/about_bvc.html

Try these 2 sites I have used the BACC one years ago, you might get a better rate but mid November is right around the corner, you don't plan much do you?

I mentioned here several months ago Continental Airlines had on their website fares to Rio at $550 plus tax. I plan ahead bought a ticket for a trip 9 months ahead of time, this will put me in Rio at the height of the season for only $550 plus tax.

Member #4217
10-31-06, 16:29
Since I plan to be in Rio for 5 months, I guess I should ask this question. I know that the Brazil Embassy web site says something about extending the stay an additional 90 days by paying a fee at the Federal Policia Station.

I read something about going to a bank first to pay the fee. Does anyone know exactly what the deal is here?

I am also considering visiting Paraguay. Do not ask mwe why! I know that both Paraguay and Arg. require visas, which I do not have. But I have been told that the Paraguay Police do not check anything on busses. But, then I would need them to check it to get the re-entry stamp!

I may could get an entry visa through one of the travel agencies in Rio.

Any one got any info on these 2 concepts?

I leave for the airport today!

tom

Zidaho
10-31-06, 20:17
Hey that helps. I wish I were a better planner!! So far I have found I can fly rountrip into Cali, Colombia from Miami for $450.00 I am thinking I could fly RT between Cali or Medellin to Rio and back for around $500. I must get a Yellow Fever vaccination to enter Brasil from Colombia. The State Health District charges $103.00 for the vaccine.

El Austriaco
10-31-06, 20:30
Since I plan to be in Rio for 5 months, I guess I should ask this question. I know that the Brazil Embassy web site says something about extending the stay an additional 90 days by paying a fee at the Federal Policia Station.

I read something about going to a bank first to pay the fee. Does anyone know exactly what the deal is here?
Since I have personally handled the procedure several times in the past, I wrote an extensive post detailing the procedure a while ago. Here you go: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=393603&postcount=411

This was back in August of 2005, but I can't really imagine the procedure has changed a lot. Hope this helps!

One final piece of information: make sure to wear LONG pants when you go to the Policia Federal. They won't let you into the building with shorts. I am serious.


EA

P.S.: Never been to Paraguay or Argentina, so I can't really help there. Sorry! But I'd appreciate updated information on that, too, since the next time I go to Brazil, I definitely wanna check out some neighboring countries (even though for a EU citizen like me, there might be no visas required).

Sperto
10-31-06, 21:12
One final piece of information: make sure to wear LONG pants when you go to the Policia Federal. They won't let you into the building with shorts. I am serious.
Very true, and that goes for most government buildings. I learnt that lesson when I tried to enter IBAMA wearing shorts. I had to rent the trousers of a security-guard. Cost me 2 Skol.
The trousers were too short and very large in the waist. Did I look handsome? :)

Knuckhead
11-01-06, 23:08
Sexplorer and Sportsman will be in town (Rio) between 3rd and 6th of this month.

Pipe Layer99
11-03-06, 02:31
Gents,

Just book my flight last night. Cost $734 from US to Rio (non-stop).

(had I booked it 2 days earlier it was only $699)

I used Nuevo mundo travel located in Miami.

Back in June I used Bobby (from blame it on Rio). I got his info from a friend.
When I read my itinerary, it showed Nuevo mundo at the bottom. So this time I checked both travel agencies. Turns out I saved $75 going direct vs using Bobby. Pays to follow-up. DD

Zidaho
11-03-06, 05:29
It is cheaper and less time to fly from USA to Rio and Rio to Colombia, than vice versa.

Zidaho
11-03-06, 05:33
USA to Cali, and Chilli to Rio could be better at departure from USA , , , verese returning to USA that way.

Zidaho
11-03-06, 05:42
I would really really appreciate flight or database information regarding this subject please more directly from you. In other words, help me understand this . . . and I promise to pay you!! REally.

Tonywil67
11-03-06, 05:51
Guys,

I will be flying out of Houston tommorrow to Bahia for a 2 week vacation. Any guys in salvador want to meet up. Please hola at me. I will be at the San Marino hotel at the city Center.

Cheers

Pipe Layer99
11-03-06, 08:58
It is cheaper and less time to fly from USA to Rio and Rio to Colombia, than vice versa.Z,

Look up discoverbraziltours - I saw flights for $489.

They use TAM, American, Varig, LAN, United, Delta and Continental Airlines.

You can also call an agent directly for further assistance - the number will be on their web site. Hope this helps. DD

Zidaho
11-04-06, 00:54
Wow they quoted me a one way from Miami (DIRECTLY) to Rio for $380.00 on November 30

Pelicano
11-04-06, 01:40
Anyone traveling to Brazil and conecting on to domestic flights, be prepared for delays and re routing. Due to a recent slowdown by air trafic controlers "Operacao Padrao", domestic flights in Brazil have suffered long delays:

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8L4GJOG0.htm

Be calm and don't let it ruin your trip, but there have been some disturbances by irate passengers.

Stay Safe: pelicano

Icyhoteric
11-04-06, 03:00
First trip, can lend a hand as a wingman and I would definitely benefit from some on the ground advice. The countdown is on NY to Rio in 6 weeks.

Pipe Layer99
11-04-06, 23:47
Gents,

2nd trip booked-

I will be in Rio next Wedsesday - staying for 10 days.

This time I will get a hotel near Leme for a few days (so I can get a look at Barbarellas, Franks, Mabs and Balcony). Then I will get an apt for the rest of the stay.

If anyone else is going solo or with a few friends, I could use a wingman.

Just reply here or PM me so we can meet up. I will probably run into those of you who are going to be there anyway. My first trip I met lots of guys to hang out with and screen the ladies.

Donnie D

Pipe Layer99
11-04-06, 23:57
I will be in Rio from Nov 1 through April 1. I can genearally be found at HELP or the veranda several nights a week. I most always wear an OD green wrag tied around my head. The girls seem to like it! Go figure! Anything to lower the price and increase the inventory.

I will be at the Copacabana Hotel Residência Apart-Hotel next to the Arcoverde Metro.

If any fellow mongers want to hook up, you now know how and where to find me.

TomI'll be there next week - we can grab a few beers (or a lot) and then grab some Brazilian ASS. I think my hotel is not far from where you are staying. I will be down near the end of Copa at the Ibiza hotel. If you already have a cell, send a PM with your number and I will call you when I get there. DD

Dcsplicer
11-06-06, 00:30
New member,

I'll be in Rio Nov. 8th thru Nov. 13th. I'm going with a buddy on mine and some of his buddies. This is my first time though. Thanks guys for all the info. I plan on putting it to good use. I also plan to take as many photos as possible, and post some when I return.

Cheers

Scotch
11-06-06, 13:32
I will be solo so if someone wants a wingman pm me or leave info on the board. I am not a Rio Pro, but been a couple of times and with the board help always have a great time.

Mongo II
11-06-06, 13:35
Anybody going to centro tomorrow?

Zidaho
11-08-06, 07:03
I'll be in Rio December 1st til December 30th. Attempting a round trip to Columbia for a week around Christmas. Any mongers wishing to have a wingman for centro or Help, please email.

Zidaho
11-11-06, 06:52
I will be in Soa Paulo on Dec 20 or the 28th for a day or two. But does anyone know how much I should expect to pay RT to Medellin or Bogata or Cali?? THanks.

Zidaho
11-11-06, 07:07
I just skipped over to the Argentina board. That board is deep. I reserved Jackson's apartment for five days. Just in case I don't go to Medellin/Cartegena from 20-29th. I wonder if there is a way to print whole topics out so I can ID the parts I need more efficiently??

Pacemaker2006
11-15-06, 05:59
I'll be in Rio Nov22-Nov27.

If anyone wants to get together for beers, etc PM me.

Foxtrotter
11-16-06, 03:47
Hi guys,

Can you tell me which of the following hotel is girl friendly and best bang for the buck? Decision will be based on cleanness, personal safty and property safty. Your help is very much appreciated, I learned a lot for your guys!! I would be lost without this forum.

I found this Package pricing from a travel agent on the net

MARTINIQUE HOTEL - $1,270 - 5 night package with breakfast - standard room

SAVOY OTHON HOTEL - $900 - 5 night package with breakfast - standard room

AUGUSTOS COPACABANA HOTEL - $1,430 - 5 night package with Breakfast - standard room.

If you have other vlaue package you are awar of, please let me know. Thanks!

Kenn
11-16-06, 09:32
You could always rent an apartment and stay up to 10 days for what the most hotels are asking for only 5 nights... 24 hour doormen for security. Another 5 days of partying!!!!!
1 bedroom apts. run about 2400-2600.reais or about $1100.USD - $1,200.US for 10 days

Member #4217
11-16-06, 14:30
You could always rent an apartment and stay up to 10 days for what the most hotels are asking for only 5 nights... 24 hour doormen for security. Another 5 days of partying!
1 bedroom apts. run about 2400-2600.reais or about $1100.USD - $1,200.US for 10 daysMake sure and ask or get a big disappointment with the hotels here.

www.rentaflat.com I am paying US$1,100/ per month.

Ask for Felipe. He speaks English.

Kenn
11-17-06, 11:45
Tom N Jerry527 ... $1,100.US for a month is not what you would pay during New Years.. that's what you are paying NOW.............

Member #4217
11-17-06, 14:31
Tom N Jerry527 ... $1,100.US for a month is not what you would pay during New Years. That's what you are paying NOW.I am´paying this amount, $1,100.US for a month, through April.

Oh damn! This does include New Years and Carnival! :o)

Right next to metro Arcoverde on Barata Ribiero.

tom

RonnyRon
11-17-06, 22:12
Is this the outfit you are renting from???

www.rentaflatinrio.com.br

If, so please provide more info on what the place is like. Thanks.

RR

Kenn
11-19-06, 11:40
Tom N Jerry527 .... Then you should have said that the $1,100.US rent you pay was a special price you got for a 6 months rental..
Most guys don’t stay in Rio for 6 months. They stay for a week or 2...
So your price really doesn’t apply to 99.9% of the guys going to Rio.

Member #4217
11-19-06, 16:14
Is this the outfit you are renting from???

www.rentaflatinrio.com.br

If, so please provide more info on what the place is like. Thanks.

RRhttp://www.rentaflat.com.br/index.php

Member #4217
11-19-06, 16:19
Is this the outfit you are renting from???

www.rentaflatinrio.com.br

If, so please provide more info on what the place is like. Thanks.

RRClose, but the address gave it away. This is the URL, and the address is Barato Ribiero 207.

The guy who speaks English is Felipe.

http://www.rentaflat.com.br/index.php

The apt is not high end, but comfortable, right accross the street from their office, and next to the Arcoverde metro. 1 Bedroom, cable TV, telephone, small pool, sauna, and exercise area, as well as the usual restaurant.

I had a problem with no hot water, fixed in 1 hour. TV died, was replaced in 2 hours. No problems at all with the girls, a variety of which you know, if you read many of my reports.

Check them out, and tell Felipe that tom said for you to call him. I think he will help you a lot.

Tom

Member #4147
11-23-06, 18:27
Have a week to test the waters of Brazil in Jan 07 and flexibility as to when. Could get to either location equally easily, will be flying standby so getting accomodations once there that are in the midst of mongerville will dictate which locale. Can anyone 2nd the opinion that the sampa hilton is a hot spot?

Thanks

Canuck9970
11-24-06, 18:26
I suspect your question regarding Rio vs. SP will yield quite diverse opinions. I visit Rio on occasion but am not as comfortable there as I am in Sao Paulo. Others will have the complete opposite view.

The Hilton in Morumbi is close to the area where I have a condo. I like the Morumbi area as it is reasonably upscale which also translates to being a little safer for Gringoes. The other nice feature about the area is the large number of very good clinicas de massagem which offer 60 minute FS for R$100-120.

Just go to gpguia.net and use the Google translator. Berrini Massagem is a favourite of mine but there are at least 6 others in that area of identical quality. The websites offer pictures and they are actually close...perhaps take one point away for photo-shop editing.

There are many other routes to finding women but I have simply stuck to a formula that works. One thing about Brasil, no matter where you decide to stay you will enjoy the experience.

C

Kid03
12-30-06, 16:32
Hi,
I will be travelling to Sao Paulo in the next three weeks. I looked at the Brazilian embassy web site here in DC and it states that I have to take a yellow fever vaccination if I have been to certain countries in the last 90 days. I have been to one of those countries that requires yellow fever vaccination.
I cannot take the yellow fever vaccination as I am on immuno supressive drugs. I have a letter from my doctor stating the same. Will the customs or immigration in Brazil create problem for me? If they do, what are my options? Do they deport me back to US?

Thanks

El Safado
12-31-06, 06:38
If you have the VISA already to Brasil than I think there should be no problem traveling there.


Hi,

I will be travelling to Sao Paulo in the next three weeks. I looked at the Brazilian embassy web site here in DC and it states that I have to take a yellow fever vaccination if I have been to certain countries in the last 90 days. I have been to one of those countries that requires yellow fever vaccination.

I cannot take the yellow fever vaccination as I am on immuno supressive drugs. I have a letter from my doctor stating the same. Will the customs or immigration in Brazil create problem for me? If they do, what are my options? Do they deport me back to US?

Thanks

RxHammer
12-31-06, 09:27
Kid03,

If you go to Brazil and the immigration official sees a stamp from a country with the yellow fever restriction and you do not have proof of vacination you could be denied entry. Check with the Brazilian authorities prior to your trip, you may get an exception due to your health situation...

Hammer

Trippleecks
12-31-06, 11:47
Kid03, if your doctor gave you a letter already, why not just explain to him the Brazil will most likely NOT let you into the country and ask him for a letter saying he gave you the yellow fever shots?

Kid03
12-31-06, 16:57
Here is my situation. I can get the visa for brazil in DC. That should not be a problem because I have booked two trips to brazil. One in January and one in March. The one in January falls under the 90 days limit but the other one does not. I can show them my March ticket and get the visa. My problem is with the folks in Sao Paulo. I have stamps all over my passport from my trips to other countries that require a yellow fever vaccination.
The other issue is that the trip that I booked is non refundable. So technically, I have lost all my money whether I take my trip or not.
I asked my doctor and she said she can only give me a letter stating that I cannot take the vaccination. In US things work differently. Only certain agencies can issue the yellow fever vaccinations certificates.
In case, I am denied entry, what are my options? Will they just impose a fine and let me in or just deport me back to US?

Thanks

Delecti
12-31-06, 17:44
I didn't research this idea, so don't trash me if it doesn't work, but can't you get a duplicate passport? I thought the US government use to issue them for travel because some countries wouldn't admit you if you had been in other countries. Say mainland China doesn't like Taiwan. Or some Arab countries doesn't like Israel. If this can be done, then get your Brazilian Visa in the new, duplicate passport. Just an idea.

Delecti

George90
12-31-06, 18:35
I have experience with this. I travelled to Colombia, one of the countries listed by Brazil that requires a YF vaccine, within 90 days of a planned trip to Brazil. When applying for the visa, I had to show proof of the YF vaccine.

Though I had my WHO card ready to show the Immigration and Customs people in Brazil, they did not request it.

Note that US passport holders go through more scrutiny than other visitors to Brazil. You get photgraphed and fingerprinted. Your passport (I am assuming you are American.) may get a more thorough look through than say Europeans, who do not need a visa to enter Brazil. You may have some difficulty in Brazil.


That said, Kid03, I think your greater problem is the immuno-suppressive drugs you are on and the UTTERLY STUPID idea of travelling to countries KNOWN to have Yellow Fever problems WHILE taking those drugs. You seriously risk DYING from YF, dengue, malaria, dysentery, etc. because you are more susceptible to catching those diseases. Your doctor should have advised you not to travel to tropical countries until your condition no longer required those types of drugs.

I recommend that you scrap this trip and use your medical condition to get a refund on your tickets, or at least credit towards a future trip. You are at much greater risk of getting sick just by being in Brazil. And if you are mongering, then, well, you are at greater risk of catching an STD even if you practice safe sex. YOU DO REALIZE HIV IS A VIRUS THAT ATTACKS AND WEAKNESS THE IMMUNE SYSTEM?!?!?!?!? Your immune system is already weak!!!! There are no words to express the ultra high level of stupidity your recent travel decisions reflect.

Urcarioca
12-31-06, 19:08
That said, Kid03, I think your greater problem is the immuno-suppressive drugs you are on and the UTTERLY STUPID idea of travelling to countries KNOWN to have Yellow Fever problems WHILE taking those drugs. You seriously risk DYING from YF, dengue, malaria, dysentery, etc. because you are more susceptible to catching those diseases. Your doctor should have advised you not to travel to tropical countries until your condition no longer required those types of drugs.You will die anyway. So far I didn't find a way to avoid it ;-D
So funny, I can imagine a monger P4P'ing taking care of malaria, dengue, yellow fever, herpes and so on, and hoping for a BBBJ.

LOL

George90
01-01-07, 00:28
You will die anyway. So far I didn't find a way to avoid it ;-D LOL

In the long-run, I also have not found anyway to avoid dying.

In the short-run, I have found PLENTY of ways to avoid dying!

Latitude Cruz
01-01-07, 20:28
Speaking of vaccines,

In the US they're highly touting the new vaccine that is supposed to provide protection against most types of HPV (the group of viruses that causes genital warts).

It's being marketed as a vaccine for girls (there's a big push to get young girls before their 1st sexual activity). Apparently, HPV leads to abnormal cells inside the vagina that eventually lead to many of the cervical cancers that occur.

It's presently in test-phase for men. No one is worrying about ill-effects only testing for efficacy.

Anyone in the industry know about these tests and how long it may be until it's available for men?

I am a big fan of being vaccinated for anything & everything. If I could, I'd get vaccinated for Martian Rabies. It's cheap insurance in my opinion.

LC

George90
01-01-07, 21:42
Speaking of vaccines,

In the US they're highly touting the new vaccine that is supposed to provide protection against most types of HPV (the group of viruses that causes genital warts).

It's being marketed as a vaccine for girls (there's a big push to get young girls before their 1st sexual activity). Apparently, HPV leads to abnormal cells inside the vagina that eventually lead to many of the cervical cancers that occur. There is a lot of hype behind this HPV vaccine but if you listen carefully between the words, you can tell that the benefits of it are few.

1) The connection between HPV and cervical cancer is tenuous. HPV is associated with the possible development of certain abnormal cells which are associated with the possiblity of cervical cancer. Nothing is definitive in a causal manner.

2) HPV is not the sole factor associated with cervical cancer. So not getting HPV is not a full defense against getting cervical cancer. The hype suggests that it is.

3) As for men, I have never heard of HPV in men leading to anything related to vancer or anything more serious than the inconvenience of a genital wart. There appears to be no medical reason for men to take such a vaccine.

4) All vaccines are based on the principle of the body reacting to a foreign invader by creating antibodies that will fight the infection. In giving a vaccine, one is being made *mildly* I'll with a weakened version of the virus so that your body can fight the 'infection' through creating antibodies which will be effective in fighting the stronger virus. The problem is that a certain proportion of those receiving the vaccine get the full blown version of the illness and sometimes die. This occurs regularly with flu vaccines that are given to the elderly. Those with weak immune systems actually get the flu from the vaccine and die.

When the risk of dying from the vaccine is greater than the risk of dying from the disease, you don't get the vaccine. I am not sure than study has been done on the case of HPV vaccines, especially for men.

RxHammer
01-03-07, 00:36
George90

Find me a case where a vaccination killed someone from creating the condition that it was designed to prevent. Ain't gonna happen. The vaccination does not contain "live" virus, they are either "dead" or atunuated, or do not even cointain a "whole" virus at all (maybe just protein triggers), therefore unable to cause infection. I hear people complain all the time, "no flu shot for me, it"ll give me the flu". Nope, ain't gonna happen. These are the same people who buy pills to make their breast grow or their dick longer (or maybe both! lol)

Baring an allergic reaction, vaccinations are safe and have been an EXTREMELY effective means of protectng ones health.

Hammer

George90
01-03-07, 15:37
george90

find me a case where a vaccination killed someone from creating the condition that it was designed to prevent. ain't gonna happen. the vaccination does not contain "live" virus, they are either "dead" or atunuated, or do not even cointain a "whole" virus at all (maybe just protein triggers), therefore unable to cause infection. i hear people complain all the time, "no flu shot for me, it"ll give me the flu". nope, ain't gonna happen. these are the same people who buy pills to make their breast grow or their dick longer (or maybe both! lol)

baring an allergic reaction, vaccinations are safe and have been an extremely effective means of protectng ones health.

hammer

rxhammer

i assume that from your handle you work in the health care industry. i do not. judging from your post, you seem to know just enough medicine to be dangerous but not quite enough to be helpful. i know very little so i research a topic before i post.

you are referring to 'inactive vaccines'. you should know that there is another type of vaccine referred to as 'activated vaccines'. i am pasting some paragraphs i found on a health related website. the bolding of the relevant part of the text is mine.


"flu-vaccine types
there are two types of flu vaccines on the market—an inactivated, or killed, vaccine, and an activated, or live, virus vaccine. both are reformulated every year based on predictions about the flu strains most likely to be circulating during upcoming flu season. the inactivated vaccine is recommended for nearly everyone because it cannot cause influenza; it is administered by injection into the arm.

the live flu vaccine is self-administered using a device that sprays a mist into the nasal passage. the strains of live virus in the vaccine are modified so they do not grow well at body temperature. still, they are active enough to cause the body to develop immunity that will help fight off the infection quickly enough to prevent or minimize symptoms, should an individual contract the flu. nasal mist vaccines are only recommended for healthy people between the ages of 5 to 49 who do not have compromised immune systems. (flumist™ is the nasal mist vaccine approved by the food and drug administration.)

the main advantage of the nasal mist vaccine is that it allows people to avoid vaccination by needles. with the activated vaccine, however, there also is a small risk of developing a mild form of the flu. it also is possible for people vaccinated with the live vaccine to pass the virus to individuals whose immune systems are compromised. people with asthma or other "reactive" airway diseases should avoid vaccination with nasal mist delivery. also, some employer insurance companies do not provide as much coverage (if any) for the nasal mist vaccine. to be sure, ask your insurance carrier.

according to dr. rehm, the inactivated and live vaccines are equally effective in protecting against contraction of the flu. "people who get the vaccine are protected from the most common flu strains going around in a given year," says dr. rehm. children **** 9 who have never had influenza should receive a second dose of vaccine, 6 to 8 weeks after the first, to boost their immunity, says dr. rehm. this is true for both the injected and the nasal mist vaccines."

Samwise
01-03-07, 19:34
I am planning a visit to Rio and Sampa in early February. Is it a good time to travel with respect to availability and quality of GPs. I am also concerned about prices - I read somewhere that the prices shot up during New Year in Rio.

Thanks!

El Austriaco
01-04-07, 04:31
I am planning a visit to Rio and Sampa in early February. Is it a good time to travel with respect to availability and quality of GPs. I am also concerned about prices - I read somewhere that the prices shot up during New Year in Rio.

Thanks!
Last year, I spent the month prior to Carnaval in Rio. Personally, I don't think it is a very good time to go: everything is way more expensive: flights, hotels, food, cabs, and yes, P4P, too. Especially P4P, I should say. There are definitely more girls, but also many more mongers, so there is more competition (and from what I am reading and what I have experienced personally, GDPs seem to be more in a hurry, with so many tourists around that can be overcharged, so you are possibly in for less of a GFE). You can bet that prices WON't come down between now and Carnaval.

I also think it is more dangerous to be there, because things sort of get unglued somewhat during the high season (meaning between New Year's Eve and Carnaval), and lots of tourists sure attract crime in Brazil.

Unless you definitely wanna experience carnaval or just Brazil in party mood (which are very good reasons to go), I don't think it is recommendable. But that's just me.

El Austriaco
01-04-07, 04:43
I have experience with this. I travelled to Colombia, one of the countries listed by Brazil that requires a YF vaccine, within 90 days of a planned trip to Brazil. When applying for the visa, I had to show proof of the YF vaccine.

Though I had my WHO card ready to show the Immigration and Customs people in Brazil, they did not request it.
The four times that I went to Brazil, not once did they check my passport whether I had been in one of the Yellow Fever countries within 90 days from my date of arrival. But then again, I do not hold a US passport (I hold a EU one, actually), so I might have gotten less scrutiny than an American as George90 pointed out.

In two cases, this was a non-issue, the last two times, it was. In 2005, I had a 9-hour stopover in Bogotá with Avianca, and the Avianca representatives at El Dorado airport advised me that even with an entry and exit stemp from Colombia showing the same date, I wouldn't have a problem entering Brazil. Last year, I had spent two weeks in Colombia (Cartagena and Barranquilla) within 90 days prior to arrival in Brazil, with Colombian stamps clearly showing the entry and exit dates. The PF at Antonio Carlos Jobim aiport didn't care.

Since I do not hold a US passport and therefore don't require a visa, I have no idea whether a YF vaccionation certificate would be required for visa processing, but George90's experience clearly indicates that it is. I suggest everyone check with their nearest Brazilian embassy/consulate for further instructions.

Hope this helps,

EA

Mr Enternational
01-04-07, 05:20
I am planning a visit to Rio and Sampa in early February. Is it a good time to travel with respect to availability and quality of GPs. I am also concerned about prices - I read somewhere that the prices shot up during New Year in Rio.

Thanks!My first question is why would you want to go to Sao Paulo? Unless you are staying at a friend's house or are already familiar with the city. Otherwise the city is just too big and too expensive unless you are going there for business or to visit friends. To give you an example I had to pay a taxi US$15 for a 10 minute ride from the hotel to the airport. It does have an elaborate train system, but you would have to figure it out first!

Next, I agree with EA. Carnaval is not a good time to go. This year it will be from Feb 18-20. The prices will start going up two weeks before and won't start going back down until two weeks after. Girls tell me that they easily get R$500.

And a place to stay costs twice as much as normal and they usually say that you have to stay at least 7 days.

I have never been for Carnaval or New Years because like EA said there are more people and more tourists and therefore more banditos out to take you for what you have. I have a couple of offers to go this year for Carnaval but I will be staying with locals if I decide to go.

Off Road
01-05-07, 05:35
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]My first question is why would you want to go to Sao Paulo? [ /QUOTE]
1. Kilt
2. Cafe Photo
3. Bahamas
4. Cafe Gaugan..

well to name a few of the place I like.. and Big Ben and rua Agusta for those who want less expensive. and then the Clincas..

You can find a nice hotel that is GFE almost anywhere.. Mercury are good and mid priced..

SP and Rio are very different. SP is boiates and Love Story Disco, and Rio is street, termas and ave atlantica restaraunts (Balcony. Mabs, Meia Patca, Terraco Atantica and Help Disco)

Giris in SP are more pro (do what you contract to do) and Rio they want to go GFE and hang in for a few days at least.

Eaglestar
01-06-07, 09:32
Be careful when entering the US of A with your laptop

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/10/24/business/laptop.php

Trippleecks
01-06-07, 12:53
George90... they are no longer taking photos or fingerprinting Americans.. When was the last time you went to Brazil 2-3 years ago?

George90
01-06-07, 19:18
George90... they are no longer taking photos or fingerprinting Americans.. When was the last time you went to Brazil 2-3 years ago?

June '06. Brazilian immigration had the special line for Americans open and the few Americans on the flight went into it.

The only way for Brazil to stop doing this to Americans is for the US to stop doing it to Brazilians. Brazil follows a reciprocation policy. I hadn't yet heard of the US having stopped photographing and fingerprinting visitors to the US. I have only heard of reducing the number of countries subject to this treatment. I think more European countries are getting a pass now. I have not heard of Brazil being one of the countries.

I have seen Americans not getting this treatment when the camera or scanner were not working properly.

Java Man
01-07-07, 06:55
I went to Rio right after they started scanning and fingerprinting. I return just about every 3 months. They have not scan nor fingerprinted me again. (maybe I'm in their system.) The equipment is still there though. I recall at the time this first started, the huge lines it created, as they did not have enough officers. I'll be returning to Rio in 12 days :D
and will report back.

Off Road
01-07-07, 11:34
I have come to brazil 12 times a year for 4 years. I have entered in Sao Paulo and Rio (mostly sao paulo).

Fingerprinting and photo of americans started when we started to fingerprint and photo them (and others) just after 9/11. At first it was manual poloroid and ink prints, then they installed camera and electronic scans. You had to first go through the normal immigration line then get in a line for americans (in Sao Paulo).

Soon after that there was the SARS scare, which added a 3rd checkpoint, it was very time consuming.

It was about 2 years ago they stopped doing this and there is just one immigration line, my last entry to Brazil was November 21 in Sao Paulo and no special line for americans.

As far as them looking at the stamps in your passport. Mine will be 3 years old in March and has 60 readable brazil stamps (too much free time on the flight). It should have 61 or some other odd number as am in Brasil now. The vast majority of the stamps are not readable. Rio has a tendency too not do an exit stamp, I have to ask them to do it. That is probably where one is missing.

Just some info for yáll.

Trippleecks
01-07-07, 12:50
George90.. I also travel to Brazil 5-7 times a year and enter in Sao Paulo and Rio.. Last time, was last week. They are NOT taking photos and fingerprinting any longer... But I guess you know better than the rest of us.........

Exec Talent
01-07-07, 13:09
George90 has never been to Rio, yet feels a need to be part of the action here. George you can Google the word "vicarious" to learn more since that seems to be the way you research everything before sharing your wisdom with us.

When a member of this board posts a question and asks for confirmation or insight from fellow members he is asking for people with actual firsthand knowledge. I nor anyone else here, I imagine, really cares to read all your misinformation. We all know how to use Google. I have learned a lot from members here and find these forums a valuable resource which is why I paid for a subscription. I did not pay to read drivel from academics and wannabees.

When you actually get to Rio, please post your firsthand insights. Until then, join the growing members of my ignore list.

George90
01-07-07, 17:43
George90 has never been to Rio, yet feels a need to be part of the action here. George you can Google the word "vicarious" to learn more since that seems to be the way you research everything before sharing your wisdom with us.

Sorry. I thought Rio was a city in Brazil, not a whole country unto itself. I also didn't realize the question pertained ONLY to Brazil immigration in Rio. On my last trip I entered through Salvador. My comments relate only to that city for the time frame I mentioned. If you are experiencing different things in Rio, then good for you. If Brazil policy has changed recently, then good for everybody.


When you actually get to Rio, please post your firsthand insights. Until then, join the growing members of my ignore list.

I feel honored to join their company!

Rosine
01-12-07, 01:26
I've been looking for around April and wowzers, these tickets are friggin $1,200!!!! I guess the market is going up in all things down there. Does anybody have a way to beat these prices? I know some of you use travel agents, any luck getting a ticket in the $700s at least?

I usually use miles, but this time I'm forced to go cash. It's ugly out here.

R

Cappadona
01-12-07, 02:40
Will anyone be around Rio from Jan 21 to 27? Looking to have some fun and hook up with the expat community. I will spot for a few beers.

Cappadona

Pipe Layer99
01-12-07, 16:45
I've been looking for around April and wowzers, these tickets are friggin $1,200!!!! I guess the market is going up in all things down there. Does anybody have a way to beat these prices? I know some of you use travel agents, any luck getting a ticket in the $700s at least?
R


Check out nuevomundousa - its a travel agency in Miami. I got a deal in Nov for $734. I could have got it even lower (like around $650) but I waited to long to book. Let me know if this helps.

Donnie D

Pipe Layer99
01-12-07, 16:54
FYI - the dates of travel do matter.

When you look for your tickets - check various dates.
Check out flights a few days before and a few days after your initial dates. The prices do change depending on the day of the week you leave and the date you return.

Good luck.

Pelicano
01-12-07, 21:19
I've been looking for around April and wowzers, these tickets are friggin $1,200!!!! I guess the market is going up in all things down there. Does anybody have a way to beat these prices? I know some of you use travel agents, any luck getting a ticket in the $700s at least?Rosine:

Try www.brol.com they will work to get you the best fares to Brazil. Just booked a short notice trip for 2 months,for a total of 945.00 with taxes included. Could have gotten it for 795.00 from Miami. In April it will be low season and they can get you there for much less depending on where your departure point is. Trips under 15 days cost much less than longer trips Buy way ahead of time and leave and return in the middle of the week and save even more.

Good Luck: pelicano

Off Road
01-12-07, 22:53
I've been looking for around April and wowzers, these tickets are friggin $1,200!!!! I guess the market is going up in all things down there. Does anybody have a way to beat these prices? I know some of you use travel agents, any luck getting a ticket in the $700s at least?

I usually use miles, but this time I'm forced to go cash. It's ugly out here.

R
That is what I just paid for GIG-SNA. Rates will go down after high seaso (March 1).

Also you might look at flyertalk forum: http://flyertalk.com/forum/

Java Man
01-13-07, 00:31
Lower rates after Mar 1? I'm not too sure about that. I arrive in Rio next friday, on American. My fare, Chicago-Miami-Rio, is $1311. I just looked at fares for a trip in late March, same route, $1435. Also checked Continental $1100+, and United $1500 for late March.
If I fly American with two stops, fare drops to $1112 for late March.
Yes, I'm an American FF member, so every 5th trip is on them. And I do everything I can to earn miles.
I'm no longer sure if I should continue with the FF program or switch to buying from a consolidator.
Four years ago, when I first started traveling to Rio, my lowest fare was $640. Seems the fares just keep going up. At this rate, I may no longer afford to travel. :(

El Austriaco
01-13-07, 01:25
Here's what I do:

1) Go to www.travelocity.com or www.expedia.com (or other online sites, like Orbis, etc.) to check the general range of airfares for FLEXIBLE travel dates. Then, play around for a while with your specific dates to get the cheapest ones and read the restrictions on these fares. Keep in mind that departure during the week, especially on Thursdays, is way cheaper than on Friday or weekend. Ditto for returns, especially on Tuesdays. One tip that has greatly helped me is that airlines generally publish a few supersaver fares starting on Wednesday 00:00, so to get those fares, book them immediately.

2) Once you have a general idea of fares, contact your travel agency to help you figure out whether there are even cheaper options. I use my travel agency here in Mexico (whose contact information is of limited use to mongers out there, of course), but in the past, like when I lived in California, I have used http://www.airbound.com in San Francisco, and they have been VERY helpful, saving me thousands of dollars on some multi-segment, complicated, overbooked travel routes in the past. Don't know if she still works there, but Bing Raymundo at Airbound has been awesome for me. I know her personally.

By doing the above, last year, in January, I started looking for a ticket to Rio from Mexico City for three months, leaving on February 1 and returning May 1, 2006, meaning throughout carnaval. The cheapest tickets I initially found were in the range of USD 1,200 to 1,500. Ultimately, I found a promotion by Avianca via Bogota for USD 750.00, including taxes and everything. Called my travel agency, and they nailed it.

In my personal experience, contacting the airlines directly is usually a waste of time; I have NEVER ever received the best fare from any of them. IMHO, a kick-ass travel agency is the way to go and well worth the money. For example, in 2005, my travel agency here in Mexico saved me about USD 300.00 by making a last-minute routing change on my confirmed ticket to Rio (going through Bogotá on Avianca instead of Santa Cruz on Lloyd Bolivian), cutting the cost from USD 1000 to USD 700.00. I sure didn't mind paying them a USD 25.00 service charge for that.

Also, IMHO, looking for deals way ahead of time is usually NO guaranty that you will get a good deal. Airlines figure that if you look THAT ahead of time, well, there must be a reason you have to be there on that date, so they will try to fleece you. As always, the more flexibility you have, the better. And of course, if you are prepared to pay top dollar, you can go whenever you want. It's all a game, guys.

EA

Llantarnam
01-13-07, 12:07
Me and a mate are looking to take a couple of weeks holiday somewhere in Brazil in August. Normal sort of break, some site seeing and getting jiggy with the local talent.

Is Rio the best place for a first timer to the country?

RxHammer
01-13-07, 19:02
Guys,

Consolidators can be a great savings at times. My two favorites are

www.flycheapol.com where they have mainly Continental tickets that will earn you OnePass miles (FF) and once you gain Elite status it can add up to buy 2 flights get 1 free (with a little extra mileage, 2 flights gets me about 48,000 miles). Although their prices have been great in the past they are going up also....

Next, I mentioned in the other thread, is www.flycheapabroad.com It´s my first trip with these guys and will update details when I return to USA...but it was CHEAP, $725 including taxes/fees.

Hammer

El Austriaco
01-16-07, 22:58
Me and a mate are looking to take a couple of weeks holiday somewhere in Brazil in August. Normal sort of break, some site seeing and getting jiggy with the local talent.

Is Rio the best place for a first timer to the country?
Yes, I think it is. I have only been to Salvador and the countryside of Rio de Janeiro state, but I think that Rio is the best option for a first-timer for a couple of weeks.

1) Speaking English will not be a problem as long as you stay on the well-trodden tourist path in Rio, while no Portuguese can be a problem in other parts of the country.

2) There are tons of things to do in Rio in terms of in-depth sightseeing, and you will have plenty of time to do some excursions to places like Petrópolis, Niterói, Armacao de Búzios, Angra dos Reis, etc. Depending on exactly what you want to do, you might even consider taking trips of a couple of days to other attractions in Brazil (Iguacu comes to mind, for example).

3) It will be off-season (winter in Brazil, actually), without the crazy Carnaval and Réveillon crowds, and everything will be cheaper, tours, hotels, food, whatever not. Personally, I have always liked the climate in August much more than the stifling heat and humidity of the Carioca summer, although it sure can get chilly and rainy in winter sometimes.

4) There will be no shortage of girls, don't worry about that, and considering the dearth of other tourists, they should be more accommodating than ever. Needless to say, P4P prices will come down significantly from insane Carnaval levels.

I say, go for it. Happy mongering!

EA

Infamous1
01-17-07, 03:51
The cheapest tickets EVER from NY to Rio is http://forestdirect.com I got a flight for $639 INCLUDING tax. The only down side is the flight time, its during the day time. My flight leaves at 8:30AM, arrives in Sao Paolo at around 7PM and then departs to rio at 8PM, arrving around 9:30PM. I'm going to take some lunesta to try to sleep, no way i'm staying up on a plane for 12 hours. On the way back is the same mess. But, I'll sacrifice some pain to save $400.

Shemp
01-18-07, 06:56
"I'm no longer sure if I should continue with the FF program or switch to buying from a consolidator."

Chingon-I don't see why you think you need to choose between the 2. I have purchased las-gig flights from various consolidators-911fly.com, flycheapabroad.com, bt-store.com & have always received my ff miles on my united & continental ff programs. You will recieve 100% credit plus any ather bonuses you may be entitled to. You just need to contact the airline after you make the booking & inform them of your ff # & you will get credited. The only difference is that with the continental program you only receive 50% of the miles credited toward your elite status. So if its late in the year & you need the full amount to reach the next elite level & that's important to you-you might want to buy off their website to get the 100% elite credit.

Llantarnam
01-18-07, 21:27
3) It will be off-season (winter in Brazil, actually), without the crazy Carnaval and Réveillon crowds, and everything will be cheaper, tours, hotels, food, whatever not. Personally, I have always liked the climate in August much more than the stifling heat and humidity of the Carioca summer, although it sure can get chilly and rainy in winter sometimes.

EADoes this mean no sun bathing on the beach. Will the girls still be about on the beach?

May be August is not such a good time

Infamous1
01-20-07, 02:45
I will be in Copa February 14-25 with one other friend. It will be 2 of us during carnival. Even though, we will have a very good time out there, I dont think we could stare at each other for 11 days. Inviting any fellow mongers to hang out with us while we're there. We're mid 20s, successful, good looking, with good bodies. I travel every 6 months to new mongering destinations and Brazil will be my first time this coming February. Will go to termas and find regular girls. Anyone, let me know.

Thelastmoppet
01-21-07, 01:57
I will be in Copa February 14-25 with one other friend. It will be 2 of us during carnival. Even though, we will have a very good time out there, I dont think we could stare at each other for 11 days. Inviting any fellow mongers to hang out with us while we're there. We're mid 20s, successful, good looking, with good bodies. I travel every 6 months to new mongering destinations and Brazil will be my first time this coming February. Will go to termas and find regular girls. Anyone, let me know.I'll be there during this time too. Will take you up on your invite.

El Austriaco
01-21-07, 20:28
Does this mean no sun bathing on the beach. Will the girls still be about on the beach?

May be August is not such a good time
There will be girls on the beach, sure, just not as many as during high season. And yes, there will be sun bathing.

BTW, when I say chilly and rainy, I mean Rio chilly and rainy. Think 70s to 80s, not US East Coast chilly and rainy.

EA

Zladdi
01-23-07, 07:42
Hi,

I am back in Rio from Feb 1 to 10.

Anybody there who wanna join for a drink?

Zladdi

Ryjerrob
01-30-07, 07:38
I'll be back in Rio for a week, April 3-9, 2007.

Does anyone else have a trip planned around this time?

Ryjer

Almotu
01-31-07, 14:37
Any mongers that will be in either city during these times that want to hang out are encouraged to PM me. I am by no means an expert so if you have knowledge to share all the better.

Almotu

I'll PM you when I get to GIG, Ryjer! I will be staying in Copa.

Rio Regular
02-01-07, 01:34
I will be in Copa February 14-25 with one other friend. It will be 2 of us during carnival. Even though, we will have a very good time out there, I dont think we could stare at each other for 11 days. Inviting any fellow mongers to hang out with us while we're there. We're mid 20s, successful, good looking, with good bodies. I travel every 6 months to new mongering destinations and Brazil will be my first time this coming February. Will go to termas and find regular girls. Anyone, let me know.Infamous1 - this will be my 6th carnaval in a row along with 4-5 trips a year to the marvelous city. I am back with a group of guys I go with every year. We have a 3 floor penthouse in Ipanema and we'll be running around all week.

I will be working in Sampa from the 12-16th and staying at the Hilton then coming over to Rio from the 16th to the 20th with a conservative group of friends then the 20-24th with the party crowd.

PM me so we can get in touch.

Ryjerrob
02-01-07, 01:48
Any mongers that will be in either city during these times that want to hang out are encouraged to PM me. I am by no means an expert so if you have knowledge to share all the better.

Almotu

I'll PM you when I get to GIG, Ryjer! I will be staying in Copa.Perfect. I'll also be in Copa.

Ryjer

Rio Bob
02-01-07, 02:37
Hi,

I am back in Rio from Feb 1 to 10.

Anybody there who wanna join for a drink?

Zladdi

I'm going to go to Help Saturday night 2/3/07, just wondering if any Rio experts are going to be around to show me the ropes. I'm sort of out of touch and out dated because I haven't been to Rio in a couple of months, please help.

Also I have never been to L'Uomo and wanted to visit the place at least once before it goes out of business. From what I can see and hear here on the ISG is that it is going down hill rapidly and I want to visit before it hits bottom. Any current up to date Monger out there can help me?

Mr Enternational
02-01-07, 03:22
Hi,

I am back in Rio from Feb 1 to 10.

Anybody there who wanna join for a drink?

ZladdiI arrive on the 8th.

Ryjerrob
02-05-07, 20:30
I arrive on the 8th.You lucky SOB's!

Save at least 8-10 GDP's for me please.

Fifty nine more days until Help/Rio.

Ryjer

Dacian
02-09-07, 00:00
Anyone in Rio interested in catch up for a drink and go out, drop me a line. Ive just hit town tonight and Ill be here for about three weeks.

Drop me a line, yours Dacian.

Infamous1
02-09-07, 22:24
Anyone in Rio interested in catch up for a drink and go out, drop me a line. Ive just hit town tonight and Ill be here for about three weeks.

Drop me a line, yours Dacian.Where are you staying? I'm actually going to be arriving with a friend this wed nite (2/14) & staying for 12 days.

Dacian
02-11-07, 17:33
Infamous1, Im staying near Lema or what ever its called, but moving to the middle of Coppacabana later in the week.

Drop me a PM and Ill give you my Brazillian cell number.

Junior
02-22-07, 18:43
Greetings all,

I have another trip planned to Rio during the last two weeks of april.
If anyone wants to hook up, drop me a PM.

I prefer the Termas, but am open to other venues too. I have been going to Rio for a number of years and speak good portuguese.


Junior

Wild Cherokee
02-22-07, 23:12
I will be setting foot on sacred Brazilian soil May 18th for 10 days. I will have three friends (two of which are semi-experienced Mongers) with me. I had the pleasure of meeting and hunting with Genghois for a day during September. If anyone else would like to sexplore/hunt during this time, please PM me.

WC

Yank My Sausage
02-24-07, 01:46
I will be setting foot on sacred Brazilian soil May 18th for 10 days. I will have three friends (two of which are semi-experienced Mongers) with me. I had the pleasure of meeting and hunting with Genghois for a day during September. If anyone else would like to sexplore/hunt during this time, please PM me.

WCI am planning my second trip tp Rio and was wondering do anyone have any idea how it will be effected by the pan american games and would it still be considered low seaon

I will be there late June to about the 28 of July

The games end July 29

Any ideas

Would like info before I confirm flight and apartment.

Sex Passport
02-24-07, 13:22
Fellow Mongers,

I'll be in Rio & SP for the next few weeks - long time Monger & long time visitor of Brazil (speak fluent) but never had the chance to combine the two and monger in Brazil. PM if there are any experienced Mongers still about, to grab a beer, and show the ropes of Termas, Help etc.

Cho 637
02-25-07, 20:05
Fellow Mongers,

I'll be in Rio & SP for the next few weeks - long time Monger & long time visitor of Brazil (speak fluent) but never had the chance to combine the two and monger in Brazil. PM if there are any experienced Mongers still about, to grab a beer, and show the ropes of Termas, Help etc.You can't receive PMs.

RickMe
02-28-07, 02:36
I will be in Rio tomorrow if anyone wants to get a drink and explore.

George90
03-04-07, 17:43
George90.. I also travel to Brazil 5-7 times a year and enter in Sao Paulo and Rio.. Last time, was last week. They are NOT taking photos and fingerprinting any longer... But I guess you know better than the rest of us.........

In January of this year, there was an exchange between myself, Nodd N above, Chingon, Off Road, and Exec Talent, concerning the treatment of American by Brazilian immigration. I had claimed that Americans were being photographed and finger printed by Brazilan authorities in compliance with the policy enacted after Brazilian nationals were subjected to the same treatment by US immigation. That exchanged earned me a coveted place on Mr. Talent's wonderful Ignore List.

I am currently in Brazil. I entered Brazil yesterday morning and passed through immigration in Fortaleza. The following is my experience.

1) I hand my passport and forms to the clerk.

2) A 'immigration helper' approaches me and informs me that after the clerk stamps my passport I must go and have my picture taken. I ask why. Answer: You are an American.

3) I realize I had mistakenly given the clerk my US passport which does not have a visa in it. As he was about to ask where my visa was I give him my passport with the visa (I have dual citizenship).

4) The helper sees my non-US passport and says I do not have to have my photo taken.

5) I tell her about hearing that this policy was stopped and ask about it. She replied that at no time did the immigration office in Fortaleza ever stop photographing US citizens entering Brazil. The policy was never repealed or interrupted.

6) I observed the American travellers, about 8 in all, being photographed by Brazilian immigration.

I am not saying you guys are wrong. I was not in Rio or Sao Paulo at the times you were there. But I was in Fortaleza yesterday and observed the policy towards US citizens, which you claim has been stopped, being executed in full force.

Exec Talent
03-04-07, 18:10
George,

Yours is an excellent post and I sincerely appreciate the information. I have not been to Fortaleza so look forward to reading about your experiences there.

FYI, on my frequent trips to Brazil entering through either Rio or Sao Paulo I have never been photographed or finger printed. Many times Brazilian bureaucracy gives way to expediency and reality. There are just too many people entering through Rio and Sao Paulo to make the policy practical.

Java Man
03-04-07, 19:37
Since I was mentioned, I'll chime in:
I was in Brazil in late January. I was not photographed nor fingerprinted upon arrival in Rio. The equipment was still there though.
It's all very simple:
Too many Americans are entering through Rio or SP, they have no time and too few officers to enforce policy. It's impractical.
Too few Americans enter through Fortaleza, they have enough officers and time to enforce the policy.
I remember the news reports when this policy went into effect. Up to 8hrs wait time to process the Americans! (They didn't have the equipment nor officers.) We're talking many plane loads, not just 8 people. And no, this policy has not been rescinded. Surprisingly, the Brazilian Federal Government allowed a local judge to set national policy.

Rio Bob
03-04-07, 19:53
George90 has never been to Rio, yet feels a need to be part of the action here. George you can Google the word "vicarious" to learn more since that seems to be the way you research everything before sharing your wisdom with us.

When a member of this board posts a question and asks for confirmation or insight from fellow members he is asking for people with actual firsthand knowledge. I nor anyone else here, I imagine, really cares to read all your misinformation. We all know how to use Google. I have learned a lot from members here and find these forums a valuable resource which is why I paid for a subscription. I did not pay to read drivel from academics and wannabees.

When you actually get to Rio, please post your firsthand insights. Until then, join the growing members of my ignore list.

You know I'm one of your fans and I see your making new ones every day. It's posts like this that makes me say to myself that a guy like this with such current informative posts needs to be on a higher level. Just being a Senior Member is not good enough for you, the Admin of this board should do something special for you like give you your own thread like that fella Macunaima got a spell back.

Ryjerrob
03-05-07, 05:23
I was initially photographed and did the thumb print thing in 2005. On a total of 4 trips since then, they stamped my passport, and that was it. It was never a big deal to me. With all things, I just try to keep them in perspective. I'm on vacation! I'm there to rock out, wit my cock out!

Ryjer

Ezinho
03-06-07, 16:03
I am currently in Brazil. I entered Brazil yesterday morning and passed through immigration in Fortaleza. The following is my experience.



Hi George, I don't want to get invloved with the lover's quarrel that's going on here, but I was just wondering, did you fly to Fortaleza directly from the States, and if so, how? Was it a charter flight or are there direct commercial flights now? I know a few years back TAM had a Miami-Fortaleza flight, but they got rid of that route, I guess because of lack of demand. Or did you fly from Europe? I'm asuming that since they fingerprinted you in FOR, that's where you entered the country.

It would be nice to access the Northeast from the States without having to change planes in Rio or SP, and then backtrack. Copa Airlines now flies to Manaus from the U.S. (with a stop in PTY) but nowhere to the Northeast.

Thanks for any info.

George90
03-06-07, 20:49
Hi George, I don't want to get invloved with the lover's quarrel that's going on here, but I was just wondering, did you fly to Fortaleza directly from the States, and if so, how? Was it a charter flight or are there direct commercial flights now? I know a few years back TAM had a Miami-Fortaleza flight, but they got rid of that route, I guess because of lack of demand. Or did you fly from Europe? I'm asuming that since they fingerprinted you in FOR, that's where you entered the country.

It would be nice to access the Northeast from the States without having to change planes in Rio or SP, and then backtrack. Copa Airlines now flies to Manaus from the U.S. (with a stop in PTY) but nowhere to the Northeast.

Thanks for any info.


The flight, on TAM Airlines, originate in Miami and ended in Fortaleza, but it was not a direct flight. There were stops in Manuas and Belem. Lots of Americans debarked in Manaus.

I am not in Fortaleza. I connected there for a flight to Recife. This is not a mongering trip for me. I am visiting some friends I made on previous trips here. I will not be making a report.

Tam also has direct flights from Miami to Salvador (and Salvdor-Miami) on Sundays only. It continues on to Sao Paulo (and arrives from Sao Paulo).

This route was not a first choice for me. The flights via SP were full in coach and the business class tickets were in the range of $3,000 - $4,000. This route cost $1,000 for coach.

El Greco
03-06-07, 23:47
In January of this year, there was an exchange between myself, Nodd N above, Chingon, Off Road, and Exec Talent, concerning the treatment of American by Brazilian immigration. I had claimed that Americans were being photographed and finger printed by Brazilan authorities in compliance with the policy enacted after Brazilian nationals were subjected to the same treatment by US immigation. That exchanged earned me a coveted place on Mr. Talent's wonderful Ignore List.

I am currently in Brazil. I entered Brazil yesterday morning and passed through immigration in Fortaleza. The following is my experience.

1) I hand my passport and forms to the clerk.

2) A 'immigration helper' approaches me and informs me that after the clerk stamps my passport I must go and have my picture taken. I ask why. Answer: You are an American.

3) I realize I had mistakenly given the clerk my US passport which does not have a visa in it. As he was about to ask where my visa was I give him my passport with the visa (I have dual citizenship).

4) The helper sees my non-US passport and says I do not have to have my photo taken.

5) I tell her about hearing that this policy was stopped and ask about it. She replied that at no time did the immigration office in Fortaleza ever stop photographing US citizens entering Brazil. The policy was never repealed or interrupted.

6) I observed the American travellers, about 8 in all, being photographed by Brazilian immigration.

I am not saying you guys are wrong. I was not in Rio or Sao Paulo at the times you were there. But I was in Fortaleza yesterday and observed the policy towards US citizens, which you claim has been stopped, being executed in full force.

There is an anti-mongering war going on in Fortaleza.

It all started two years ago when a lady mayor was elected and it was against child prostitution and pornografy in the first place.

Now they don't want Fortaleza to become a new Rio. There are a lot of articles on the two main newspapers almost every other day.

Trere are serious talks between the agencies involved of how they can change the law and give a month only permit instead of three when entering Brasil in Fortaleza.

They miscalculate in purpose your time in Brasil when you ask for a visa extension. It happened to me. Instead of another three months they only gave me 22 days more. I went to Policia Federal in Rio and they confirmed that the Fortaleza branch was wrong.

They stopped traffic rights to a certain charter company which was bringing dutch mongers to Fortaleza and the list goes on.

They don't want us there.

Thanks

El Greco

Brazil Lover
03-07-07, 05:33
Who will be in Rio during the end of March? Looking to possibly meet up with like-minded people and explore outside of the beach/tourist areas.. Centro area or other interesting areas. Send me a PM.

George90
03-07-07, 19:30
There is an anti-mongering war going on in Fortaleza.

It all started two years ago when a lady mayor was elected and it was against child prostitution and pornografy in the first place.

Now they don't want Fortaleza to become a new Rio. There are a lot of articles on the two main newspapers almost every other day.

There were a lot of anti-child exploitation posters all around the airport in Fortaleza. I did monger there around 5 years ago and saw many children on the streets late at night. I saw a social services team talking with streets kids at night. I spoke with one team and they said there a large number of homeless children who turn to prostitution to earn money to buy food. Other Brazilians I spoke with in other cities have confirmed this. Fortaleza has a national reputation for having a great deal of child prostitution.

Government efforts to crack down on child prostitution are not a bad thing.

El Greco
03-07-07, 23:08
There were a lot of anti-child exploitation posters all around the airport in Fortaleza. I did monger there around 5 years ago and saw many children on the streets late at night. I saw a social services team talking with streets kids at night. I spoke with one team and they said there a large number of homeless children who turn to prostitution to earn money to buy food. Other Brazilians I spoke with in other cities have confirmed this. Fortaleza has a national reputation for having a great deal of child prostitution.

Government efforts to crack down on child prostitution are not a bad thing.

Didn't say the opposite. I totally agree with you. But they are going well beyond that. They are trying to stop any sex tourism using methods against the law.

Pipe Layer99
03-13-07, 06:16
Checking on fares for April.
Found a RT with Continental from Chicago - Miami - Rio for $791
(looking at a local travel agency web page)

Anybody know another agency or a way to get a lower fare?

My last 11 day trip I spent about $3500.
$1300 for flt and accomodations and about $2200 for the beer, Jack Daniels, and the girls :-)). Oh yeah and a little food!!

Any Intel will be appreciated. Donnie D

The Watcher
03-13-07, 17:33
Checking on fares for April.

Found a RT with Continental from Chicago - Miami - Rio for $791

(looking at a local travel agency web page)

Anybody know another agency or a way to get a lower fare?

My last 11 day trip I spent about $3500.

$1300 for flt and accomodations and about $2200 for the beer, Jack Daniels, and the girls :-)). Oh yeah and a little food!

Any Intel will be appreciated. Donnie DGo to the General Information section - there is a lot of info there about web sites to check about cheap flights.

Phreddie Ruxpin
03-15-07, 17:05
you guys have provided some great info for a first timer like me. thanks! me and a few peeps are heading out on the 21st of this month. anybody that might be down there at the same time, hit me up.

Ryjerrob
03-17-07, 07:47
Who will be in Rio during the end of March? Looking to possibly meet up with like-minded people and explore outside of the beach/tourist areas.. Centro area or other interesting areas. Send me a PM.What are your dates? I'll be there April 2-9, 2007. I'm counting down like crazy!

Ryjer

Brazil Lover
03-17-07, 20:55
What are your dates? I'll be there April 2-9, 2007. I'm counting down like crazy!

Ryjer

I'll just miss you, as I'm only there till the 31st.. Have fun!

Almotu
03-21-07, 19:54
Gang,
I will be in Copa beginning Monday afternoon (March 26) for about 1 week. Looking to share cab fare to Solarium, venture out to Barra and try to visit Villa Mimosa for the first time in 3 years since I have been coming to Brazil. PM me if anyone is interested. I hope to hang out at "The Office" and meet up with some ISG members.

Almotu

Jan 156
03-25-07, 21:49
Has anyone experience of flying from Rio to Quito? The best deals I've seen so far are Copa airlines (via Panama) - I can't find anyone who flies direct.

Although some deals need to be booked before arriving in South America (such as the Lan travel pass) I'm weighing up the options of that as opposed to booking the bucket shop airlines once I get there.

Ideally I'd like to go to Quito first and see how much time I want to spend, or fly Rio to Quito and get a flexible return date, but it involves the hassle of getting a Yellow Fever innoculation apparently (unnecessary for health reasons just staying in Quito, but required, I understand, if entering Brasil after being anywhere in Ecuador).

Junior
04-01-07, 07:21
Hi Everybody,

I will be back in Rio during the last two weeks of april. If anyone is around and interested in joining up for some terma trips drop me a line.

I have been to Rio many times and know most of the good termas and I speak portuguese.


Junior

Sprite13
04-03-07, 06:26
I'll be in Rio from April 18. If anyone wants to get together to check the talents in termas and Centro, let me know. I speak portuguese almost fluently.

Junior, are you going to be in town around the 18-20 of April? If yes, let us meet for some terma fun.

Rioyankee
04-03-07, 13:45
Vila Mimosa is not for everybody, but it is a great exerpience. It is kind of like an old Wild West town on a Saturday night and the Sheriff is out of town. I have been there many times over the past 4 years and have found it to be very safe. Yes there are plenty of dogs 3s and 4s, but I always manage to find an 8 or 9 to take home for the night. It is a several hour process as girls come and go, but surely out of over 200 you can find ONE keeper.

For any interested in taking a cab there the first three weeks of April, I can introduce you to some of the owners and some girls that fit your "type".It is one huge party, every bar (about 50) playing their own music, road food and a general good time. Cost of splitting a taxi is $5 from Copa.

I have learned alot from this board and it is one way I can pay back to others.

RioYankee

Sunset Strip
04-04-07, 17:40
One good thing about the violence and weak dollar--airfares are going down. At the moment you can get to Rio from California for $700-800 on Delta, and I think Continental is close to this range too.
I was looking at rates in August. A few weeks ago rates for the same period were at $1400.

TJ

Hadji Singh
04-09-07, 00:01
Returning to Rio after my first solo trip last year. I will be in Rio August 17 -26 if anyone wants to hang out.

MrThomas
04-11-07, 04:14
Just saying hi. In Rio for travel, am interested in trying out the Termas. Not interested enough to run out there by myself right now though. If any experienced mongers want to take me along send me a message. Will be here a bit.

Chure
04-12-07, 20:00
I'll be in Rio from April 18. If anyone wants to get together to check the talents in termas and Centro, let me know. I speak portuguese almost fluently.

Junior, are you going to be in town around the 18-20 of April? If yes, let us meet for some terma fun.Sprite13,

I'll be arriving around April 26. I'm new to the board and don't know where this message is going.

Chure

Sunset Strip
04-14-07, 01:28
Mr. Thomas,

I am not in Rio, but I would highly suggest that you go to a therma even if you do not find a buddy.

Monte Carlo is right at the corner of Avenida Atlantic. It is really easy to find.

I know it has a website that you can find easily by searching.

It would just be a shame for you not to go.
TJ

Ryjerrob
04-14-07, 17:59
For any interested in taking a cab there the first three weeks of April, I can introduce you to some of the owners and some girls that fit your "type".It is one huge party, every bar (about 50) playing their own music, road food and a general good time. Cost of splitting a taxi is $5 from Copa.

RioYankeeI might be interested in that tonight. I tried to send you a PM, but you can't receive them. I'm staying a few blocks from Help/MP, let me know your plans for the evening. Most nights we just hang at the resturant in front of Help.

Ryjer

Chure
04-16-07, 06:33
Hi Everybody,

I will be back in Rio during the last two weeks of april. If anyone is around and interested in joining up for some terma trips drop me a line.

I have been to Rio many times and know most of the good termas and I speak portuguese.

JuniorHey Junior,

I'll be in Rio starting April 26. I'm still working on being able to private message. Would like to hook up as half the fun is laughing and discussing in the bar at the terma or outside of help at TA.

Chure

Zentaur
04-18-07, 06:54
Gentlemen,

My 5 year brazilian visa will expired on October, 2007 and I was wondering if anyone knows how many more months I can use it before renewing it. I couldn't find anything on Brazilian embassy web site about this.

Thanks for your help

Java Man
04-18-07, 19:09
Zentaur:
Perhaps I don't understand your question. It's April now, October is 5 months away. You can use it for another 5 months as long as you have not visited
Brazil over 90 days this year. I would not recommend being in Brazil in October when your Visa expires.
My 5 year visa expired this month. I plan on renewing it this Friday. I'm hoping they issue another 5 year visa.

Red Alert
04-18-07, 22:05
Fellas,

Im trying to get an airline ticket from Panama to Rio. Any suggestions besides Copa Air? Thanks for any help.

Pipe Layer99
04-19-07, 00:09
Just saying hi. In Rio for travel, am interested in trying out the Termas. Not interested enough to run out there by myself right now though. If any experienced mongers want to take me along send me a message. Will be here a bit.


You have to go visit a Terma (or 3 of them). Its something you don't want to miss, even if you go alone. Go have some beer or water or whatever, find a nice girl and have some fun. Make the most of your time there.

On my 1st trip to Rio, I only went to a terma on my last 2 nights. I went alone and had a blast. I wished I had gone sooner in the trip to try more places.

Check a few out, have fun, then post your experiences for us to read.

Jan 156
04-19-07, 14:13
You have to go visit a Terma (or 3 of them). Its something you don't want to miss, even if you go alone. Go have some beer or water or whatever, find a nice girl and have some fun. Make the most of your time there.

On my 1st trip to Rio, I only went to a terma on my last 2 nights. I went alone and had a blast. I wished I had gone sooner in the trip to try more places.

Check a few out, have fun, then post your experiences for us to read.


I'd second that. Especially if you are still getting to grips with Rio, which can be quite daunting. Walking in the door of the terma is *the* only difficult bit, not knowing what to expect. But, compared to most things you can do in Rio, it's kinda like a safe, pampered, sex-on-tap environment. You only have to use minimal common sense instead of looking over your shoulder all the time.

Have fun! And yes, tell us how much you enjoyed it, do!

Hoo Doo
04-21-07, 14:26
Just saying hi. In Rio for travel, am interested in trying out the Termas. Not interested enough to run out there by myself right now though. If any experienced mongers want to take me along send me a message. Will be here a bit.If you have read even 2% of the post on this board then you must have some sort of idea what awaits you at one of any of these oasis's.

DO YOU'R HOMEWORK. Get your ducks in line, and go for your's.

You will be rewarded!

Zentaur
04-22-07, 07:11
Chingon,

Thank you for your answer. You did understood and answered it. And yes, I hope I get another 5-year one also.

MoneyShot
04-23-07, 01:12
I plan on traveling to Rio in late November . my first trip! I have always wanted to check out Rio not just for the Girls but am still a little worried about the language 'I only know a few words' Anyone else going to be in the City @ this time , could have a few Drinks.

Off Road
04-26-07, 04:18
I plan on traveling to Rio in late November . my first trip! I have always wanted to check out Rio not just for the Girls but am still a little worried about the language 'I only know a few words' Anyone else going to be in the City @ this time , could have a few Drinks.
Some of us live here full time. When time gets closer, PM..

EvilEye5
04-26-07, 07:36
I am planning a trip in October that will last about 2 weeks. I plan on flying into GIG and heading south. Octoberfest in Blumenau is high on my list, as is some time down in Floripa. I saw buses that run to both places, but the trip is long so I will look into some cheap domestic airfare.

Anyone have any experience with Octoberfest? I cannot seem to find apartment rental listings there like for other cities. Might have to suck it up and shell out for a hotel.

The trip will be half travel/experiencing the culture and half mongering (a culture unto itself).

If anyone plans on heading to Blumenau between October 6-12 (maybe a little later)let me know.

Any tips will be greatly appreciated. I have been reading the boards for some time now, but Blumenau is rarely mentioned.

Space Camel
04-26-07, 11:16
Thank you Gents! I have learned quite a bit from reading the RoDs that many of you have written. Before I found this Forum I was pretty blank.

I still have a number of questions though, and I was wondering (as the Rookie I am) which thread would be the best to ask them in? I guess I can start by asking here, who'll be in Rio from May 13th and onwards. I'll stay up to two weeks, depending on how nice it is going to be.

Are you guys OK with helping out yet another rookie ;-) I keep learning by reading the older posts, but up-to-date bits of advice will be value - especially reg. safety, language and making it with non-pros.

Space Camel

Bizzie
04-30-07, 02:00
I will be in Rio in the 2nd week of May.
If some traveling mongers or locals are going to be available then, will like to get together for a coke and chat.

HoleRanger
04-30-07, 03:57
I'll be arriving on May 23rd, my first trip to Rio but not new to the scene. There is always safety in numbers, anybody that would like to meet up, let me know. Enjoy!

Wild Cherokee
04-30-07, 04:23
Some of us live here full time. When time gets closer, PM..Off Road, if you don't mind, I will PM you as well. I look forwards to my 1st VM trip and some more detailed Centro exploration. If any seasoned mongers would like to hunt together, please let me know.

Thank you gentlemen.

WC

Anotherlevel
05-04-07, 04:01
Guys it has truly been inspiring to be a member of ISG. I joined just for Brazil 2 years ago. Now it has come time to make the voyage to what I consider the mother land! My friend and I will both be traveling to RIO the last week of May and we are interested in leveraging the knowledge both found on here as well as anyone who has experience while we are down there. I too believe there is safety in numbers and fun can be had by all. If there are any people down there at the time we are there, I do wish to meet up and exchange notes is possible. We arranged for an apartment, which will have internet access...I hope to contact those who are down there for just a great time! PM me or I can PM you...thanks, I do hope to add a report on here from my trip since I think that it is only fair!

Delaware Guy
05-06-07, 15:47
I know, it's about 9 months away, and from what I have been reading few experienced mongers would consider visiting Rio during Carnival. But unless I can swing a trip this fall (not totally out of the question but not totally likely either) I will be making my virgin trip to Brasil during Carnival next year. I have my airfare already ($790 on Delta) which, from what I’ve read, seemed pretty reasonable. I imagine rooms book way in advance around Carnival. Right now I have a reservation for the admittedly prime time rip-off rate of $200 per night at Savoy Othon. I am going to explore other options for lodging since I understand Savoy is not really keen on friends coming over to play. I received a quote of $130 per night at Orla Copa which, if available, I think I will take. It sounds like Orla is more guest friendly, though apparently a little away from ground zero as far as a single gentleman traveler's activities are concerned.

My number 1 question today remains the best way to get a visa. I have done a search here and found very little info. I know my designated consular office is in New York City. They do not accept mail applications and I am not inclined to drive 3 hours to apply in person. Does anybody have any recommendations for Visa Service agencies, or other suggestions for the easiest way to proceed? I realize I cannot even get my visa until December, unless I do actually make an earlier trip, but I just want to learn from the pros here. I apologize if this has been hashed out previously and I missed it in my search.

Carlos Primeros
05-06-07, 22:35
I was doing a research on the internet for flight from the US to the North of Brazil (Salvador/Maceio/Fortaleza) and could not find anything.

I want to avoid going through Rio or Sao Paulo comming from the US.

Until now I have not found any connection. Somebody can help???

Carlos

Rio Bob
05-06-07, 23:59
I know, it's about 9 months away, and from what I have been reading few experienced mongers would consider visiting Rio during Carnival. But unless I can swing a trip this fall (not totally out of the question but not totally likely either) I will be making my virgin trip to Brasil during Carnival next year. I have my airfare already ($790 on Delta) which, from what I’ve read, seemed pretty reasonable. I imagine rooms book way in advance around Carnival. Right now I have a reservation for the admittedly prime time rip-off rate of $200 per night at Savoy Othon. I am going to explore other options for lodging since I understand Savoy is not really keen on friends coming over to play. I received a quote of $130 per night at Orla Copa which, if available, I think I will take. It sounds like Orla is more guest friendly, though apparently a little away from ground zero as far as a single gentleman traveler's activities are concerned.

My number 1 question today remains the best way to get a visa. I have done a search here and found very little info. I know my designated consular office is in New York City. They do not accept mail applications and I am not inclined to drive 3 hours to apply in person. Does anybody have any recommendations for Visa Service agencies, or other suggestions for the easiest way to proceed? I realize I cannot even get my visa until December, unless I do actually make an earlier trip, but I just want to learn from the pros here. I apologize if this has been hashed out previously and I missed it in my search.



I used this service for New York twice already, worked very well and easy both times they got me a 5 year visa.

www.zvs.com/

Safado6
05-07-07, 01:08
I know, it's about 9 months away, and from what I have been reading few experienced mongers would consider visiting Rio during Carnival. But unless I can swing a trip this fall (not totally out of the question but not totally likely either) I will be making my virgin trip to Brasil during Carnival next year. I have my airfare already ($790 on Delta) which, from what I’ve read, seemed pretty reasonable. I imagine rooms book way in advance around Carnival. Right now I have a reservation for the admittedly prime time rip-off rate of $200 per night at Savoy Othon. I am going to explore other options for lodging since I understand Savoy is not really keen on friends coming over to play. I received a quote of $130 per night at Orla Copa which, if available, I think I will take. It sounds like Orla is more guest friendly, though apparently a little away from ground zero as far as a single gentleman traveler's activities are concerned.

My number 1 question today remains the best way to get a visa. I have done a search here and found very little info. I know my designated consular office is in New York City. They do not accept mail applications and I am not inclined to drive 3 hours to apply in person. Does anybody have any recommendations for Visa Service agencies, or other suggestions for the easiest way to proceed? I realize I cannot even get my visa until December, unless I do actually make an earlier trip, but I just want to learn from the pros here. I apologize if this has been hashed out previously and I missed it in my search.DELAWAREGUY,

Where did you hear that the Orla is guest friendly?

The orla's location is great.

But they charge $70. US. per night for guests.

I stayed there in Aug of 06.

And that's what I was charged.

The pool is the size of a bath tub.

But the restaurant and the staff are good.

Gatorman
05-07-07, 01:42
Hello Carlos. I believe Tam has a direct flight from Miami to Salvador. I don't think it runs every day however. Good luck

Bizzie
05-07-07, 02:48
My number 1 question today remains the best way to get a visa. I have done a search here and found very little info. I know my designated consular office is in New York City. They do not accept mail applications and I am not inclined to drive 3 hours to apply in person. Does anybody have any recommendations for Visa Service agencies, or other suggestions for the easiest way to proceed? I realize I cannot even get my visa until December, unless I do actually make an earlier trip, but I just want to learn from the pros here. I apologize if this has been hashed out previously and I missed it in my search.

If you Google it , you will find a number of agencies that will charge you $45-55 PLUS any shipping charges. I have used this agency in the past:
http://www.traveldocs.com/

Chris H
05-07-07, 15:20
Are there certain cities that you can go pickup your visa in person, like Chicago or D.C.?

Chris H