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Zoo TV
09-29-04, 22:59
Chingoneus,

Hey can you give me directions on how to get to Loryds and Corpus 2. Thanks ahead of time.

Zoo

Lucky Chuck
09-29-04, 23:11
I wrote about Vacqueras y Bronco before and thought that some might like to see what the place looks like. Here is a picture of Palomo that I took with my cell phone.

Hope some of you have gone and had a good time!

Coyote79
09-30-04, 05:27
I was coming out of Cleopatra's today, and this guy rolls up on me & says he's the owner of both Venus MP. He gives me his card . . . he says next time go to Venus.

I would go, but after reviewing the reports you guys posted about the place I'm not too eager.

Extra for oral & kissing? Fuck that!

Or do I have the wrong impression of Venus?

ElPasoGentleman
09-30-04, 06:47
I don't read the posts here much anymore - but I did pick up on several posts recently related to hooking up with a Mexican chica. I've been supporting and dating my chica now for over two years. There has been pain and there has been joy - but the latter overflows more abundantly.

The pain emanates primarily from my wanting to screw her every time I see her - and she is not that driven. (By the way, I "took her away" from a brothel in el centro). But the joy revolves around her tender, sensitive and genuine love for me. She loves to cuddle and she always says, "Necisito abrazos". And she has 4 daughters who absolutely adore me.

Initially we planned on getting married. But circumstances did not permit that. More recently I had decided to leave her and head for central Mexico by myself to live happily ever after. I made that decision after we all took a vacation to central MX this past July and I just decided that our lifestyles were just too different for living together. And I was dissappointed in some miscommunications as well.

I told her on the way home I would plan to move to Zacatecas alone. She did not say much. Well, October first was to be the big day to leave her. I had my FM3, sold most everything I owned, did detailed planning, etc., etc. But last Sunday while making my "last" visit, she was hurting. And I was the only one in the crowd who could tell. It was a lousy farewell as we hardly talked. And the girls did not really pick up on the fact that I was finally leaving.

But, to make a short story long - you guessed it - I have decided to remain in the area. I kept thinking about the smile that she flashed as I was leaving several weeks ago. There is not a movie actress in Hollywood who could come close to matching that smile - very tender, very fresh, very sensitve - with her eyes penetrating my inner being like nothing I've ever experienced before.

My return trip back to her to tell her I was staying was sweet. She did not know how to react for awhile. She wandered all over the casa picking up things and rearranging them. I sat for awhile and reviewed the homework the girls always thrust in my face. I then told her I was returning to El Paso. She nodded softly. While we were alone in the doorway, she gently asked with a great deal of inquisitiveness, "John, why are you not going to Zacatecas?" I looked at her and said, "Because of you". She glanced away quickly as her eyes glistened with moisture. I remained looking at her and then asked, "Entiendes?" She softly nodded and revealed that subtle irrisistable smile. She asked, "When will you be returning here?" I said, "Next Sunday at 2 p.m."

Ever since that final decision, I have felt peaceful. The one post was correct in mentioning how the weekend fiestas with the family were far more important than any roll in the hay from the chica's perspective. And it's true. When we go to visit her sister and the other family, she will talk her head off about her family as we return home in the car. She tells me her good they are, etc., etc. But I like the family events. They have accepted me 100% - their house is my house.

I don't like Juarez particulary - especially finding suitable housing that is inexpensive. And El Paso's housing is not much better for something on the lower price range. I'm not a fat cat and I don't know just where I'll end up living. But I'll be over there on weekends again. Waiting for the next family fiesta.

EPG

DreamingEagle
10-01-04, 05:01
Took two weeks off from my mongering. Weekend one was spent battling a hoard of roaches which invaded my RV during the rainy season and settled in the cabinets before I discovered them. Tough fight, but I won. Weekend two was too engrossed in a new web project to even look up. The doctor had also told me he wanted me to do a chemotherapy regimen for the skin cancer, so I was depressed. Didn't even leave the apartment once.

Last weekend, however, found me predictably eager to get with a hot young lady. Fuck the doctor. I didn't have to take his advice! I was ready to live again! So I picked one at a regular place whom I have known a while but only been with once. First time was great enough. Second time, this time, the vibes were just right, and, utterly lacking in judgement, we found ourselves doing it without a condom. She is tall, and it started standing up with her leaning against the massage table. Then it went to the massage table, and there was no turning back.

This is the fourth MP girl this has happened with in the last four months. I seemed to have learned how to take it slow enough and let her take the lead and just inevitably open herself up to the point the situation demands total surrender. Trouble is, much as I LOVE that hot, wet, tight, young pussy, the worries later probably outweigh the pleasure. What if she gets pregnant, somehow, and blames it on me? What if it actually IS me responsible? I don't worry too much about diseases since they are so strict with the condom rules nomally and aren't drug addicts or something, just the pregnancy. I also get hooked on it and keep coming back and making the same mistake all over again.

Ah, well...at least life is fun... but this sin condon has got to stop!

Clydesdale
10-01-04, 20:39
DreamingEagle - I wonder if that was the same tall young lady that offered the same to me a few weeks back. It started the same way, with her leaning back against the table. I don't know if she was insulted when I grabbed the condom and put it on, but if I was worried about catching something there wouldn't have been so much bare contact up to that point. Before I go sin condom I have to be comfortable that I won't catch anything or get a girl pregnant. I've gone bare with chicas when those conditions are met. If we are talking about the same girl, that is one hot lady!

Mugroso - I did Diana1 a couple of weeks ago. I paid a price that will p*** off mongers, but really wanted to try her out. We had a deal that Diana1 and Diana2 would both go to the room with me together that night, but Diana2 was late to work, so I took 1 to the room by herself. Diana sandwich was all I could think aboout all day, so it was a bit of a disappointment. 1 may be prettier, but I prefer 2 because she has so much energy and is such a character. She's never a disappointment.

How many monger have had this disappointment? In the bar a chica is super hot and gets you all worked up, and then goes dead when you get her to the room. Her attitude becomes ' here, use my pussy, and I'll lay here and suffer through it'. I took a girl from Dia y Noche last night and that happened. I'll buy her a drink anytime, but never take her to the room again. Her name is Nadia, if I understood her correctly.

Zuzax
10-02-04, 04:12
How many monger have had this disappointment? In the bar a chica is super hot and gets you all worked up, and then goes dead when you get her to the room.

We've all probably had that happen to us before. The one I remember the most was with Celeste from the Casa Colorada. She would just stare at me with a total look of boredom while I was doing her. Then after a few minutes she hit me with the moment killing response of:

"Finished yet, Amigo???"

Zuzax

Zuzax
10-02-04, 04:43
Hey Chingoneus,


Is the Yo Amo Latinas board still active?

The last post was back in April, so I'd have to say "No." That Elk Dreamer guy was the one who pretty much kept it alive, but he got mad at the quality of some of the posts. He took a break from the board and it pretty much ended then.

Also, most of the regular members moved on to other things. From what I can remember:

One guy moved to Dallas. (Glen)
One guy took on a girlfriend. (Bob)
One guy went to Germany and was doing Thailand girls. (Jaime)

I don't know about the other guys. They might be on this board under different names. Who knows??

I sure do miss the life and times of "Elk Dreaming Eagle" though.

Zuzax

Chingoneus
10-02-04, 06:56
chingoneus,

hey can you give me directions on how to get to loryds and corpus 2. thanks ahead of time.

zoo

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zoo,

man i'm terrible at directions. it took me too many tries to find them the first time. i know that corpus ii is in a small strip shopping center on the corner of jose borunda and peru. after i cross the bridge, i go south to vicente guerrero. then left on vic guerrero until i pass peru, then double back on jose borunda. it's crazy but it's how i learned to get there. it's best to double back if you are driving because you don't want to go the wrong way on a one way street. and be careful if you see any yellow flashing lights anywhere in the afternoon-that means it's a school zone and the cops will hide behind a car or a tree and nail you for speeding in a school zone. have some bribe money ready because you ain't getting away with this scam when they stop you. it happened to me in monterrey. they just "guess" at your speed and you either pay or ...... you know the rest.

loryeds took me longer but i finally found it too. i went east on triunfo de la republica and after about a mile i got into the right service road-it connects every block to the main street. you'll go past several car dealers and you turn right when you see a sign for the hotel monte carlo-i think? go about two blocks and there will be a bldg on the right with a second floor and glass front windows. that's loryeds.

if i were you, i'd check back thru some of the older posts-i'm sure some of the regulars can give you better directions. btw, if you buy an el paso city map, it will have most of the juarez streets on the bottom of one side of the map. that's how i got around juarez.

best of luck,

ching

My Freedom
10-02-04, 20:04
Here we go again. A few weeks free of this but last night about 9:00 P.M. right on Av. Juarez I'm walking along the busy boulevard with lots of people and get stopped by two cops. Two on bikes and a 3rd on foot who just happened to speak perfect English. No badges of police ID could be seen and that is troublesome. One cop took my wallet, handed me my money and searched extensively. The English speaking cop, who I have dealt with before, asked if I had been drinking beer, did I use drugs, did I have a knife, etc.? Finally he asked where my car was and I said "El Paso." They let me go and said to have a "nice evening." Oh, they also wanted to know where I was going and I said to "a restaurant." I later met up with a SW amiga of mine and she made the evening VERY worthwhile. I told her what happened and she said nearly all the cops are out for one thing and that is to rob you, plain and simple. I had my SW fun money well hidden. So again I say, be careful! And remember this happened on the busiest boulevard loaded with a lot of people.

My Freedom

BorderJumper
10-02-04, 20:59
death of the sleepy iguana

well guys, i'm writing this from cd. juarez where i just learned the fate of the sleepy iguana. they were busted for employing a 14 y/o with false papers. this probably sounds the death knell for this place as the word is the owner is facing fines totaling $50,000.00.

seems as though sheila, the negotiator, late of panama and casa colorado amongst others was in on the deal from the beginning and helped set the owners up for the fall. sources tell me she was the one who presented the **** girl to the owner and insisted he hire her and she watched from the street corner as the raid went down. apparently the owner wasn't playing by the rules of the zona and this was his fate. i have this from an unimpeachable source so i guess we all need to raise a glass to it's demise.

on other fronts, leo and company, the americans managing the panama served thier last beer last night. as i predicted when they first took over the plave from nieto, that he would wait until all the improvements were made and then come in and kick them out. it happened. nieto's back in and the brothers are gone. nieto plans on putting another american in to manage for him by the name of "grover". stay tuned.

any of you guys in town tonight, i'll be meeting mugroso at 1900 at plaza mariachi for a breif get acquainted visit. anyone else that would like to join us, feel free. it would be nice after all this time to put faces to the posts.

see you there hopefully. i'll be the good looking older fat guy in the hawaiian shirt and crew cutfighting manfully to ward of the hoardes of chicas flocking to my space.

adios

Clydesdale
10-03-04, 04:25
'...fate of the Sleepy Iguana. They were busted for employing a 14 y/o with false papers.' - BorderJumper

What would happen if you were in the room with the 14 year old when that happened? I hope that isn't happening in any other clubs.

Ragman
10-03-04, 14:21
Clydesdale asked:

"What would happen if you were in the room with the 14 year old "?

I hope you are not serious about asking that question. The age of consent is not 14 on either side of the Rio Bravo. The "She said/She looked" older defense does not work on either side. As the adult, the responsibility is yours, NOT the child's. We leave the "Land of the Free" to enter a country that freely allows consenting adults to enter into contracts between themselves. The key phrase is "consenting adults". There are 14 to 17 year olds everywhere that look and act more "mature". The burden still lies with the adult to be more "adult". Google the term "jail bait" if you need more.

Ragman

Ps. The US has recently enacted laws that would have you charged with a felony here even if you could bribe your way out in the country where the paedophiling took place.

Jon32
10-03-04, 16:16
Anyone know if they still do the donkey shows in Juarez? And if they do, where at? If you don't want to post it, PM me!

Thanks fellas, and El Paso/Juarez sounds like heaven, I hope to move there someday.

Pimelonman
10-03-04, 17:41
Donkey shows are just a phoney come on used by the cab drivers to entice to go you to the Pink Lady or Casa Colorado so they will get half of what you pay for sex. In my 20 years of living in the El Paso area I have never seen a donkey show.

BorderJumper
10-03-04, 19:15
Ragman replied to Clydesdale better than I could have and he is absolutely correct..

The whole thing was a setup from the beginning to make sure that bar failed. You can't run a bar in Mexico, American style and you can't go head to head with the big boys in the sex biz without getting taken down a notch or two,

Clydesdale
10-03-04, 21:28
ragman - 'i hope you are not serious about asking that question.'

the serious part about that question is if there's 14 year olds working in the bars, how do you make sure you're not getting one - ask for id from every girl you take to the room? that's why a sw is a foolish risk, but the dancers are supposed to be screened. due to my limited spanish, my feeble attempts at conversation usually are how old are you, how many kids,etc. my preference is 25-35 y/o, but if there's minors working in the bars, that's an element of danger i don't want.

imagine this situation - you're sitting in a bar here in the u.s. you buy a lady a drink, and it turns out she is a minor who snuck into the bar. do you get busted for buying liquor for a minor, or does the bar get busted?

i'm well aware of the law, and technically anyone in the iquana at the time could have been arrested for corrupting a minor. i'm wondering if they were.

maybe the mexican bar owners wouldn't set up each other, but i wouldn't want to be caught in the mess if they did. has anyone heard of any **** problems in the mps?

Old Rebel II
10-04-04, 02:32
Just made my first trip to Juarez. Not as easy to get around in as the smaller Mexican towns I have visited. I did find Enchanto per previously posted directions. First time I had a small girl, about 5" 4", thin and attractive. She does not come in until 3 PM. Great on oral, just lays there while you finish.

Second trip I took Selena (like the singers name). Litter older and a little fuller figuer. Very good experience. Sat in my lap on the table with my back against the wall for a start, gave me a good working out. No problem with different positions. Not as good oral as with the other girl but will go back if I have the time. Speaks very little English. Good profesional girl. No real faking but some very good moves. Does not rush and a good overall attitude.

DreamingEagle
10-04-04, 04:45
Border Jumper Wrote:
The whole thing was a setup from the beginning to make sure that bar failed. You can't run a bar in Mexico, American style and you can't go head to head with the big boys in the sex biz without getting taken down a notch or two.
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I would say that any American who gets involved in the sex business there is a total idjit. Not publishing the Juarez Men's Guide was the best decision I ever made.

Mugroso
10-04-04, 04:50
Ok guys, this isn't a sulky, lamenting post.

Help a dirty guy out with his vocabulary. I am looking for a word to describe how I feel right now. Vindicated I'm not sure applies but maybe so.

See, heres a little background. When Veronica came back she told me she was in a relationship with a cop in Chihuahua but they broke up and she wanted to be with me, you all know the rest, blah blah blah (or yadda yadda yadda if you prefer).

When she dumped me she told me she was still in love with him and she told me the reason they broke up. You see he encouraged her to go to night school and finish her high schooling and then later she began "prepa". Great. She told me they broke up due to his prodding her to better herself. What a guy, I must buy him a beer one day. Do I really need a woman so short sighted and impatient?

So thats when she began looking for me again.

The best I could do to console myself this entire week was, "who needs a woman who leaves a man for such a little thing."? It was
the best I could come up with but it only helped this tender boy a little.

So I thought I'd go to Juarez to get more content for the website. Friday I fucked Minnie in her room for 27 bucks. (good sex by the way) Saturday I got a private dance at Faustos and took pics of a new chica. No sex. (good private dance by the way)

I want a woman just as much as the next guy. Each night I came home and went to sleep alone.

Tonight I rented a French movie "the House Keeper". I began to watch it, alone. Then my cell rings. Damn it, "whos calling me"?

It was Veronica. Hi how are you, fine, good, and some short blah blah blah. Very short blah blah blah.

She then hit me up for 200 American Bucks for her school and if I could send it tomarrow. Well I didn't tell her I got no money. I said I have it but what about the novio she left me for. "Ayyyyy, don't ask me", she says. Can I send it or not? Ha, yeah right.

I can assure you great bunch of guys that I will not be sending the money no matter if I have it or not.

What nerve. What nerve with no shame. I'm better off fucking Minnie and MariLu and some MP girl. These women are "meantime girls". I don't have a woman, but in the meantime...

Veronica, yo se que no andas por el internet, pero, vete a la verga. Yo no soy tu tonto pinche mora. Soy un ****** que vale. Ruinaste todo.

Guys, I am back in the saddle again. But I still need that proper word for what just happened and for the way I feel.

The Filthy (ridin' my horsy again) One
MUGROSO

Fayce Paynter
10-04-04, 05:02
Oh Filthy one,

Does 'pussmerized' work?

How 'bout 'ass-blinded'?

Maybe 'temporarily chicatized'?

Cienega32
10-04-04, 07:22
About that 14 year old thing: US Law will call it a felony if you (a US citizen) cross International borders to willfully commit what would be a felony in the US.

Last thing I heard is that when the Mexican G is done with your "ped" time they'll hand you over.


And Mugroso - sorry to hear how it all worked out but glad to see the fickle finger of Fate aiming away from you now.

Welcome back.

Ragman
10-04-04, 08:37
Clydesdale asked: "Imagine this situation - you're sitting in a bar here in the U.S. You buy a lady a drink, and it turns out she is a minor who snuck into the bar. Do you get busted for buying liquor for a minor, or does the bar get busted?"

The short answer is both you and the bar.

The long answer notes, as politely as possible, that broad, generic hypothetical questions leave so many "What ifs?" that entire books can be written trying to cover all the bases. The first note would mention that liquor laws are a state regulated issue and "here in the U.S." would have more than fifty unique sets of statutes. The second note would mention whether the bar knew or had reason to know or to suspect that the drink you bought was going to the minor. For instance, you order a Coke for the lady and a Negra Modelo for yourself. At some point after the drinks come you move the bottle of beer to in front of the lady and the glass of Coke to in front of you. Now the bar has reason to know the lady is drinking alcohol. The third note would probably mention that the sign at the front door saying "No Minors" does not relieve you of the responsibility of knowing whether or not the lady, to whom you are supplying alcohol, is of legal age any more than that little sign relieves the bar. You probably had in mind that innocent situation where you, down at one end of the bar, tell the bartender you want to buy a drink for that freckle-faced redhead down at the other end, in hope that a meaningful dialogue would insue. During that dialogue you would probably buy more drinks in hope that a meaningful, if only for one night, relationship would insue. And since, in most states, the age of consent is even younger than the legal drinking age you would of course be okay. At what point are you, the adult, responsible for knowing the age of the "lady". You guessed it, right from the beginning and all the way through.

Having said all that, Yes, there are under-age girls with fake ID's trying to make a little money for food, or whatever, on both sides of the border. Some places are more conscientious than others in screening the ladies. Some fake ID's are better made than others. This applies to both sides of the border. The responsibility lies with the adult. And it is not something you can shed at the border.

Ragman

Ps to Cienga32's comment. "what would be a felony in the US." We need to look it up but I think that applies even if it is not a felony across the International border. The US law says 18 but in some countries the age of consent is 16. I think the US law makes it illegal for a US citizen to do what is legal where he/she is doing it but now you become a felon when you return home.

Sun Devil
10-04-04, 08:41
Because I have been travelling elsewhere, I have not been to Juarez in a while, so I don't really know what is going on with the two bars, Sleepy Iguana and Panama.

However, I have met the owner at Sleepy Iguana, Tim, and he seemed to me a stand up guy, based on the limited amount of time I spent in the place. The staff working for him apparently liked and respected their boss, unlike some of the other places in that neighborhood.

The facility there was a whole lot better than some of the others to which I have been, having clean rooms and beds. I lament the fact that I will have to endure the not-so-clean facilities in the future.

In addition, I feel sorry for the girls who worked there, especially those who had worked at Casa Colorada and left, because of the way the owner had treated them.

I guess I wanted to see whether this place, with its US model of doing business and treating the customer first, would succeed in Mexico, with perhaps the reason being is that I am used to this type of business everyday in the US. I guess the answer to that question is a resounding no.

Fuzz Nutts II
10-04-04, 09:02
I have been reading your reports for some time. I have a question. I won't go into a long story here as this is more for reports on the women, not really what I am after. Would any of you please mail or pm me a message if you can help or have info for me. I am planning on opening a bar in Mexico within the next year. I do know it will not be in any of the border towns. I still would like any comments or info you may have.

Thanks

Clydesdale
10-05-04, 00:45
Ragman - good answers to the questions, which were meant to be cautionary and thought provoking. The upshot of the whole thing is that the f***in' you got won't be worth the f****n' you'll get. The military has even drafted requlations, which are now in the comment period, to prohibit servicemembers from patronizing prostitutes overseas, even if it's legal where they are. The theory is that it will cut down on sex slavery.

Mugroso - I don't know if this is the right word, but the term 'screwing your brains out' comes to mind. I like audacity in a woman, but asking for $ was over the top. I feel your pain; I fall for women way too easily. Better that you found out now, though.

Fuzz Nuts II - Why do you want to do that? Being a patron is so much more fun.

BorderJumper
10-05-04, 05:56
Not only the military Clydesdale, but civilian contractorsalso.

Juarez Defender
10-06-04, 00:24
Hello,

How about next time a get together is planned in CJ we get some MP girls and go to a regular Ladies bar away from the centro. We can drink some beers, play pool, dance and bs all we want. Next time I go to El Encanto and Venus I will get some girls numbers.

Any input on this?

Also how about a good Dentist in CJ? help me, a freakin bad tooth is killing me. Let me get drunk again so I can forget, forget what? I don't remember.

JD

Bolongo
10-06-04, 02:01
Fellas,

So I called telemates and hooked up with a 37 year old. ( i am only 24.) I went over before going to work just to say hi. Well it led to a back massage which led to a BBBJCIM then doggy style. A few nights later she came by and we had sex some more. The last time was just a BBBJCIM with swallow and she left to go to work.

I also was talking to this girl. Pretty with a beautiful body. Planned to go to the movies and then back here for some fun. I was talking to her on the phone and turns out she is only 17 and a junior in high school. She was soo fine, but had to pass on that one.

On sunday there was a 24y/o from Juarez who comes over here once or twice a week looking for some "fun" the way she described er self was nice, but who knows. I m a little weary of hooking up with a girl over there from the posts I have read. Plus, I don't think alot of them are into black guys.

You can find some nice one on there if you are patient. Its only 18 bucks for a month to retrieve messages. Qwest is more expensive, and there are alot more women (mostly from Albequerque (and they are mostly just looking for the same thing you are). Well I hope this helps some of yall out there.

Well all this typing has made me a little "hungry". Maybe a trip to Caberet or maybe across the boarder... Maybe I'll check out Las Vegas again.

Mugruso's site has given me a little confidence in that place so I will go back and shhot for Diana #2 or Jocelynn.

Timbo1
10-06-04, 05:34
gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen,

i am here to tell you the truth about what happened at the sleepy iguana, not the crap that i've read here. border jumper, i don't know who your unimpeachable source is, but if you believe anything that anyone in mexico says, you're a complete idiot.

how do i know the truth? i am tim, the owner of the sleepy iguana and i am the only one who knows what really happened.....so here it is, the unvarnished truth.

when i started the sleepy iguana, i needed a mexican to sign the lease and to be named on all the paperwork, that is where sheila came in. her name isn't really sheila (there's a big surprise since nobody actually uses there real name), her name is isidra rivas and her name was on all the paperwork. sheila has always been a liar and a thief, so i wasn't under any false impressions going in.

sheila had two responsibilities, the paperwork (because my spanish is limited) and hiring the girls. about 8 weeks after opening, she had done both jobs so poorly i let her go. the biggest problem we had in our first two months (as was quite accurately reported here) was the lack of girls. this was basically because sheila had a core group of girls that would kick back money to her. in a nutshell, here's how it worked. if a guy spent $80 on a girl, sheila would report that the guy only spent $50 and she and the girl would split the difference. i could tolerate that but what i couldn't tolerate were the lack of girls and the one's that we had i wouldn't have fucked if i were a customer. that's a problem for a *****house!

once sheila was let go, i started getting some decent girls in, none of which were 14! contrary to what border jumper wrote, sheila had no part in bringing any of these girls to the bar. these girls were referred by a source totally separate from sheila. the fact that they didn't have papers wasn't a big problem since most of the girls working in places like ours didn't have papers. unlike the u.s., many girls don't have proper id even though they are well over the working age. a contribution to the local enforcement agencies was all that was needed to eliminate this problem.

on saturday night, a local government agency closed our bar because we didn't have our liquor license posted.....not because there were ****d girls working there. our permit was sitting at carta blanca because the girl who handled licences for carta blanca left the company and nobody bothered to send the paperwork over to us.

on monday, we retrieved the paperwork from carta blanca and the government agency authorized us to reopen without a penalty. the reason we closed had nothing to do with that.

when i told sheila to leave, i contacted the landlord to tell him i needed to change the name on the lease. his lawyer came over on monday, september 20. at that time, i paid the rent that was due ($2,000) and he told me that there would be no problem changing the name on the lease. he said that the landlord wanted an additional $2,000 in security deposit since in the lease sheila had pledged her house. i said that was ridiculous since i had already put down $8,000 in security deposit and i instead offered to pledge all the equipment in the building as security in lieu of the $2,000. the lawyer said he would contact the landlord and that i should call him at 1 pm. when i called at 1 pm, the lawyer said that the landlord wanted an additional $20,000 in security deposit that day and if i didn't pay him, he would claim that i made changes to the building (untrue) without his written approval.

i made the immediate decision that i wasn't going to let some fat mexican landlord fuck me, so rather than throw good money after bad, i pulled everything out of the place. every table, chair, pen, coke, beer and bed disappeared that night. at 2 am, sheila showed up with the police and asked what i was doing. i told the police exactly what i was doing and they told me to take all the time that i needed. i made sure each policeman went home with a bottle of his choice. so all the furnishings and equipment are safely stowed away. at about 11 am the next morning, the landlord walked in and, according to a friend of mine who was there, said in total disbelief, "he's gone?". that's right you fat fuck, i don't let anyone extort money from me!

so that's the story albeit an incomplete one at this time. remember when i said that sheila's name was on everything, not mine? guess who is responsible for paying the $850 electric bill and the $150 water bill and the $50 gas bill and the $300 in payroll and the $600 for the liquor license, all bills that came due within 3 days after i left? wonder where sheila will get the money for that. guess who is responsible for paying taxes to the mexican irs for july, august and september? wonder where sheila will get the money for that. and guess who is going to make sure that the irs gets all the reports showing the sales fromn both the bar and the rooms next door? yes, i feel a need to do my civic duty.

as for the question, can an american type bar operate successfully? i think the answer is yes. there were many pieces of the puzzle that i hadn't yet put into place, but they were coming. ironically, our website was active the saturday before we closed and for the next two weeks we were averaging 100 hits per day. that combined with the ads being run in the el paso times and the utep paper would have been a nice synergy. our target demographic was totally different from that of san souci, panama and pink lady, a fact that none of those idiots ever really grasped.

the fun for me was in the creation of the place, not the day in day out running of it. to be quite honest, with a nice home in dallas, juarez really didn't have that much long term appeal to me. maybe that was why i was so quick to tell the landlord to shove it....either that or the irish in me wouldn't tolerate being extorted.

the lesson in all this is that mexicans are greedy pigs who can't see a day into the future. the landlord had an empty building for 7 years. he filled it with a tenant who was building a nice business and who paid him like clockwork. now, he's got an empty building again. smart move! sheila who would have earned a salary plus 10% of the profits now has so much debt hanging over her head she will likely lose her house and maybe even end up in jail. me, i'm a little poorer, a whole lot wiser and planning for my new venture.

so that's the real story! my thanks to many of you who patronized my bar, i am very grateful. i would also like to thank all of you who posted notes on the sleepy iguana in this space. i think that they were very accurate in the areas that they critiqued and on a whole very generous with their praise. i thank you. i am sorry for all the people that lost there jobs because of the greed of a few people, that is the real shame.

those of you that would like to contact me directly can do so by e mailing me at timbo628@yahoo.com. i'll be happy to answer any questions that you may have. if you get a chance, check out the website at www.sleepyiguana.com and give me your feedback. the site still needs a little work but your comments would still be appreciated.

hasta la vista baby!

tim

BorderJumper
10-06-04, 18:43
Thanks for the update Tim and I assure you buddy, I am far from an idot. You might want to refphrase that part of your post. The source is a member of the Poilicia Municipal and apparently, that is the rumor that is making the rounds in the zona. Heard it from several people but the one person who I was visiting has never once fed me a line. Take it for what it's worth and do a little damage control.

IT finally sounds as if Sheila or whatever she chooses to call herself is in some deep shit. COngrats to you for having the forsight to set things up that way. You have no idea the number of people she given a fucking to over the years down there. You can be sure she probably will lose her home or at the least, lose all utilities to it until she pays the bills. She still lives caddy conrer from Club Laura's doesn't she.

Tim, you made my day with your post guy despite your unfortunate choice of words. I've seen your website and it is well laid out just like your club was. I stuck my head in there a couple of times but didn't see anything that piqued my interest woman-wise.

You are also correct about the idiots down there and their economic plan. They can't seem to grasp the idea that a steady income over time beats a one time windfall.

Take care man!

Cienega32
10-06-04, 21:20
Timbo1 - going by the details of your post:

CHECK and MATE! Well done.

Bolongo
10-06-04, 22:55
Hey,

Can I have the website to the Sleepy Iguana? I hate that I didn't get to experience that place. I stopped in twice, but there was only 2 women. both times. It was in the early part of the day. Hey, if you find a new place to open up down there You got lots of customers.

Good luck!

Ron Weasley
10-06-04, 23:03
Hey guys,

What kind of weapon should one carry in Juarez?

Don't want to get thrown in Mexican prision for a gun?

Anything else that would be a good defender for this rough town?

Also what time does the border crossing close or is it open 24/7 like the TJ/Cali one?

Mugroso
10-07-04, 00:07
timbo1
bummer to hear there will be no more sleepy iguana. but i am glad you stood your ground with them assholes. some "mex-o-philes" may take offense to your comments about how short sighted mexicans are but its true. from working girls who probably make more than me never have any money, bar owners who raise prices when the peso strengthens a weakens and an entire society with such a wide gap between rich and poor. (although the middle class is growing) veronica hit me up for 200 bucks a week after she dumped me. i would have sent it if we were together.
oh well, i guess a link exchange between our websites would be useless at this point.

bolongo
i am glad to see you enjoy the website. but tell me what this telemates is. can you passover the number? give the bordercrossing chica a try. to me, that would be a dream come true.

clydesdale, ragman and anyone else who commented about ****.
if you have doubts, don't go for it. trust your gut. even if there were no consequenses, it is just wrong. but i am sure everyone here is an upstanding moral american.

borderjumper
i kinda figured something goofy happened. the clock explanation made me laugh because i have had the same problems with chicas.
you see, up until a few years ago when we turned our clocks back an hour juarez stayed the same. so i'd show up on occassion and hour late for a date and then slam my forehead. but now we are in synch so no more missed dates.

i already rtff but i can't find who made the claim of having a matchmaking liscence. could this person email me please.


the filthy one

Bolongo
10-07-04, 01:12
The number to telemates is 915-541-8900

Qwest is 915-225-5555

Happy hunting.

Oh, I am trying to get with the Chica, but I don't think she is interested. she isn't replying to my message and I hear her on again today. We will see though.

Bolongo
10-07-04, 01:18
So when is the next mongerpolloza? I am hoping you all say next Thursday or Friday. I may have to take Mugruso up on the MP tour.

DreamingEagle
10-07-04, 05:09
Funny someone as smart as that bar owner can come here and still want us to belive he figured it all out when he got fucked out of thousands of dollars. Maybe with a great web site in place next time it will work...

Funny how he denigrates all things Mexican because of his experiences amongst the dregs of humanity to be found in el centro of Juarez.

Come on back, gringo, and let them fuck you again, just like the snakes fuck you in Dallas, Texas where you came from when you move into their territory.

Just don't smear your experiences all over the great people of Mexico. Bed down with snakes, and you get bitten, anywhere, which was the only possible outcome of your venture.

You're not an authority because you had the dough to open a bar. BorderJumper's facts may be incomplete, but it won't matter what the facts are. They will change every time but never change in that you get fucked in the end when you go into the sex trade in Latin America. It's kind of a local preserve.

Your account shows that you were in so far above your head you will never even *know the truth* of what happened to you.

And you owned the bar...:)

Or did you?

However it sounds, this is not a hostile post. We all have to learn about life south of the border. All accounts were that you were a straight shootin' guy who wanted to give the best to the clients. I admire your juevos for trying.

Just don't kid yourself into thinking you are going to move into the sex trade and "show 'em" how it's done. You're just the most recent of a long little steam of ants who got burnt by the big magnifying glass of things you knew nothing about and will never be able to control.

Jdindc9
10-07-04, 15:12
Sounds to me like he learned the hard way about El Centro. Remember, a tiger is a tiger, it can be beautiful, fun-loving, and you can think its completely docile with *YOU*....but just when you think that, chomp, it eats you. Just ask Roy in Las Vegas.

I dont think all Mexican's are short-sighted, but of course the ones in El Centro are. At least you did something cool while you were there, all I did was naively blow my money thinking several street girls wanted to be "saved".

But in the end, both of us are just arrogant f*ing Americans for thinking we can go down there and change anything. Why should they? What makes us any better...and for that matter, if we were so high-and-mighty, what the hell we doing in El Centro?

And to think, I fell for all that bullshit from several girls about Chito and keeping girls locked up, only thing locking them up was their addiction......


Well, back to lurking.....

Peter_Girth
10-07-04, 22:42
>What kind of weapon should one carry in Juarez?

A brain.

Bolongo
10-08-04, 00:34
Like Denzel Washington said in the movie Ricochet, The only weapon you should carry over there is one that is useless unless your a pretty girl. (And in some cases not so pretty girls).

Zuzax
10-08-04, 00:49
Hey jdindc9,


First story, decided to do some short stories, as I would get off my butt and actually have some stuff completed.

What ever happened with the other stories you were going to post here about El Centro? Your first one was excellent. I've been waiting since July of last year for the next one.

Jdindc9
10-08-04, 14:02
What ever happened with the other stories you were going to post here about El Centro? Your first one was excellent. I've been waiting since July of last year for the next one.


After many edits, I changed the story alot to be less pretentious and less "stupid".

Besides, this isnt the proper forum for that, this isnt a writer's workshop.

Its interesting how many times I was aproached by assorted nefarious characters to open a bar and "do it right". I even had the idea to do a web-site/tourism site where guys would arrange to meet particular women (yah, right try getting an El Centro girl to actually show up at a particular time and place), until I heard all about the guy out of the Panama that got ran out of town a couple years ago.

Gotta admire the guy that tried to open the bar for actually trying though. Life is about experiences, not prime-time television. Bravo for him, I could think of worse ways of blowing his money.

Dont miss the women there, but, damn I miss the steak houses in Juarez.

Enjoy keeping up on the posts, though.

Toni Ten
10-08-04, 17:32
Tim,

You know it sounds like everybody knows what to do after it is all over. All I know is my respect to you and everyone that worked with and for you. was there once and it seemed real confortable sorry I can't go back. cool web site too.

Thanks TT

Timbo1
10-09-04, 04:42
Uodate on my post regarding the demise of the Sleepy Iguana.

First, let me apologize to Border Jumper for my poor choice of words. When I wrote that he was an idiot I meant that tongue-in-cheek, kind of like when you call your best friend a dumb fuck, a backass term of endearment. When I wrote that, I had second thoughts about it but hoped that he wouldn't take offense. I was the idiot for leaving it in. My apologies publicly because I have also made them privately.

Second, thanks to all of you for your many kind words. I really appreciate your thoughts and your sentiments.

Finally, to Dreaming Eagle. Join the real world! All that crap about the sex trade in Latin America is pure bullshit. My problem was a greedy landlord not all the other bullshit that goes with being in the Zona. That crap you just have to ignore. Nor did I have any problems with the police. In fact, I found the police to be very supportive of the Sleepy Iguana and myself in particular. Nor was there any great plan on the part of the landlord to get me out. He was more surprised than anyone when I refused to pay him another $20,000 in security deposit. He immediately contacted another club owner to try to lease the space to him. Not the actions of someone who had a predetermined plan.

As for my castigating Mexicans in general, I will say this. This is a third world country. It is that way because there are two classes, the wealthy and the poor. The wealthy are greedy pigs who do nothing to improve their country and do everything to insure that the poor stay poor. I will also tell you that I have dated a wonderful Mexican woman for 8 months and I intend on marrying her. She is loving, caring and everything you can ask for of a woman. I have many friends who are Mexican. I judge people individually on their merits and my biggest fault is that I always tend to believe the best of everyone I meet. Needless to say, I am often disappointed, but I prefer that to being cynical and untrusting.

Tim

My Freedom
10-09-04, 21:23
Does anyone know anything about a MP located in the San Lorenzo area named "Consuelos"? Like, how are the ladies and prices, etc.?

Thanks

My Freedom

Mugroso
10-10-04, 03:19
Thats right, MariLu is at Virginias now. So now along with good sex you will also get crabs. The rooms used by Virginias are filthy and they are shared with the street girls who hang out by the doorway. I haven't screwed there in years. I was lucky that I didn't have to go to Wal Mart to buy some lice soap.

I hate when this happens. I see a cutie Thursday night at of all places the Centro Lagunero which I fondly call "fatty central". We went to the rooms which are now located at Las Palmeras.

We get going good, I really needed to get the cum out. I hadn't had any since I banged Minnie the week before. She claimed she hadn't had any in a while and she acted like it but come on guys, we know better.

We got done and what gets all over my hand when I take the rubber off? Blood. Gross. Where is soap and boiling hot water when you need it. It just wasn't my day. But I will be back in about 7 days to make sure she got all the funk out.


The Filthy (bloody) One

Scoup
10-10-04, 04:08
Mongerpolloza

Who wants to join in with Mugroso and Scoup on the 16th of this month?

Scoup

RearWindow
10-10-04, 09:22
I don't like the trade off there as was posted.Good sex vs crabs?... What is up with MariLu now? This is sounding like a slippery slope no-one wants her to be on.

DreamingEagle
10-10-04, 11:11
"Finally, to Dreaming Eagle. Join the real world! All that crap about the sex trade in Latin America is pure bullshit."

The real world is that you are never going to be permitted to survive in the sex trade in Latin America as the owner of an establishment. The circumstances will always be different, but the outcome the same.

Regarding Consuelo's. It's closed, another case of an American who thought he could operate a sex business in Juarez.

You guys can just watch when an American opens a sex place in Juarez. Add 6 months to the time they open, and they will be closed down, for some kooky, kinko reason or another.

End of argument. I will stand by the results, which never vary. When you can show me a foreign owner who makes it past the six month mark, I'll reconsider.

I'm not too worried about losing this argument.

Mugroso
10-10-04, 17:29
DE

There is one semi successful story where Americans are engaged in the sex trade in Mexico. It is the one of the trucker van services. Of course they are sluts to the *****houses like the Casa and Panama Clubs. They seem to be getting by.

As for my website, I promote the bars and variety that can be had down there. I try to provide enough info for the unexperienced person to venture down there. Of course I maybe lying to myself about that. I try to keep a low profile while "working" down there. But if anyone comes after me for their "cut" into my website they will be in for a surprise.

That building that housed the Sleepy used to be the Posado Indio. 3 times in a row it was owned by Americans and 3 times they passed away for one illness or another. Weird story there. But whether it be a wider conspiracy or just an asshole landlord the deck is stacked against the Americans.

Even non sex related small business's have a rough go at it. And I'm sure Wal Mart and Home Depot had their share of bumps in Mexico.

Well thats just my 2 pesos

Mug

Bbond
10-10-04, 17:53
Wal Mart and Home Depot are large multi-national corporations, they can afford expensive legal and political help, I don't imagine they had too much trouble with local official bribes and that sort of thing.

Mugroso
10-10-04, 17:55
Guys,

This may be short notice to many here but who is up for a "mini-palozza" Halloween weekend? Maybe we could call it a "weenie-palozza". Any takers?

I propose we meet at the park on the U.S. side from 7-7:15 pm, Saturday, 30 October. Walk over pick up anyone who may wish to wait at the Plaza Mariachi and start the festivities at 7:30pm.

We can either go to the more popular clubs or I will give a tour starting way at the bottom at Las Palmeras and work our way up.

This event will of course be apart from my website. This is just for us guys. If I ask anyone for money, please kick me in the balls.

Let me know guys, I will be there either way. Juarez on Halloween eve has always been a trip. On occassion the waiters from the bars get together and carry a coffin around the neighboorhood. It will be a great time.

Mugroso

BorderJumper
10-10-04, 22:51
At this point Mug, count me in on Halloween weekend. I'll clear a space on the calendar and start making arrangements.

Funny you should mention the shuttle services as that is what came to mind as I opened this thread today. They are
w h o r e s to the bar owners. For instance, Papa Smurf owns nothing but the name and those ragged out vans of his. Ricardo Moro holds the lease on the building, owns the CB radio they advertise on, the Business radios they communicate with and their Nextel phones. They stay in business at his pleasure.

Mugroso
10-10-04, 23:31
BorderJumper

There used to be a website called www.borderjumper2000.com. It no longer exists. From what I understood it belonged to papa smurf. I almost thought about registering it but what for? I would just wind up competing with myself. I think its bull that these services limit where the truckers can go, but then again if ricardo owns it. I wonder how much those gringos get paid.

I'd like to buy a van and cart people to the MPs but that isn't very low profile. Of course I could call my clients amigos. Nah, too much logistics.

As of this posting I have Scoup and BJ on my mental list for the weenie-palooza. Any one else?

Mugroso

Boeing1048
10-11-04, 00:48
Any one ever have a TLN from any women at the MP's if so how did you go about it? Or any suggestions on how to attain that? I want to go there but just dont want to f*** a amp girl I want TLN.

Clydesdale
10-11-04, 01:17
Count me in for 10/30.

Bolongo
10-11-04, 05:46
I am in.

Whoratio
10-11-04, 17:20
A Halloween Mongerpalooza would work. Where is the Plaza Mariachi??

BorderJumper
10-11-04, 20:40
Also Mugroso;

Where is the park on the U.S. side you refer to? I can't place one in my mind. I'll probably be renting a car anyhow as I like to be mobile over there.

Mugroso
10-11-04, 23:07
Where is the park on the U.S. side

The little cement park just before the toll booth to cross into Mexico.

Also, the Plaza Mariachi is just a few blocks into Mexico on the right hand side. You can't miss it, there is a statue of 2 boys washing a horse.


Mug

Bolongo
10-11-04, 23:48
And is this the Sante Fe bridge?

Cienega32
10-12-04, 01:16
Mugroso - are you talking about that little "sitting area" on the US side of the Santa Fe bridge?

I don't think I'll be making this one. I would like to as I would love to see the place then. Don't they have a Day of The Dead celebration that weekend?

Anyway - I have a Giants game in Phoenix on 11-14 (I'm planning to head for J after the game), need to knock out a timing belt change before that, and don't think I could hang that long. Tho' a 2 weeker doesn't sound too bad at this point!

Whoratio
10-12-04, 17:00
Should we be wearing little stick-on nametags with our mongering pseudonyms? "Hello, I'm Whoratio". :-D Or will we stand out like a collection of sore thumbs?

Is Juarez on the same time as EP right now, or is there a time difference? Daylight Savings Time ends on the 31st.

Whoratio
10-12-04, 22:29
Speaking of the Day of the Dead, it is November 2nd. Does anyone know if it is business as usual in the MPs on the 1st and 2nd of November, both of which are national holidays in Mexico? Doesn't really matter at this point, I already have my plane tickets and will be there regardless.

Kimbrough
10-13-04, 00:18
Hi everyone,

I'm heading to Juarez this weekend and was wondering about the lineup at Marilyns. Since here hasn't been any new reports on Marilyns in a while I was wondering if anyone can recommend a girl. Its been what feels like months since I went down there and we all know how quickly the lineup changes. So any shared info well be appreciated, thanks

K

Kimbrough
10-13-04, 00:29
Hi everyone,

I'm heading to Juarez this weekend and was wondering about the lineup at Marilyns. Since here hasn't been any new reports on Marilyns in a while I was wondering if anyone can recommend a girl. Its been what feels like months since I went down there and we all know how quickly the lineup changes. So any shared info well be appreciated, thanks

K

RearWindow
10-13-04, 02:08
Hardly a park...I couldn't picture that either..but now I know. I have an illness in the family that will take me out of town so I cannot make it....but enjoy one and all.

Mugroso
10-13-04, 08:23
Whoratio

That is a good question. I guess if anyone standing around looks like they are waiting for someone they must be from here. But how will we know for sure?

I will give a description of myself and what I will be wearing a day or 2 before the event. Name tags are a great idea but, really, do we want that. I have met a couple of guys here so we will start off in a group of 3 and wait for others. Also we could exchange cell phone numbers (in private of course).

I know the "park" isn't much of a park but it is the last spot in the U.S. before the toll booths. And yes, it is located at the bottom of Santa Fe street. Plenty of parking, so no worries.


Mug

ChuCho Dan
10-13-04, 20:47
Kimbrough,

I had a mexican freind take me to Marylyns last week for the first time at around 2:00 pm and selection was absolutely raunchy those girls would of had to pay me. From the second we stepped in there I was trying to come up with a way of tactfully leaving, luckily my friend pushed a button on his cell phone that made it ring and gave us an excuse to bolt out of there. Maybe I just hit them on a bad day but it will be a while until I return. Luckily Venus on lincoln ave. saved the day with the 3 to 4 absolutely stunning girls. They ask for $40 and my friend taught me if you tell them up front you will give them a $10 tip if you leave satisfied that they will take care of you head to foot. Incidentally I returned to Venus for the evening shift a couple days later and none of the dolls from my previous visit were there.

Cienega32
10-14-04, 11:56
For what it's worth about the parking by that "sitting area" - the lot right there on the other side of the fence is where I usually park and I've only had 1 very small problem but I parked to close to the booth knowing that I shouldn't.

I remember sometime ago a fellow monger mentioning that Claudia at Cleopatra's was gone? Does this still hold true? She was quite the oral talent and loved to ride!

Mugroso
10-14-04, 13:08
Cienega32

I recall Clauida was mentioned in their ad in the Diario. Now the featured girl is Daniella if I recall correctly. I really have to give at least one girl a whirl at Cleo's. The second to the last time I was there I saw some pretty cute girls. Not great but cute.

Mug

My Freedom
10-14-04, 17:08
To Whoratio and anyone else wondering, El Paso and Cd. Juarez are on the same time all year long. So on the 31st Juarez will make the time change as El Paso does. Further south in Mexico, however, most of the country is one hour ahead of the El Paso-Juarez area.

The MPs should be open for business as usual on November 1st and 2nd. The two "holiday" times that are really considered the most sacred in Mexico are Christmas, December 24th and 25th, and Mother's Day, May 10th-same date every year in Mexico, you will find is almost as sacred as Christmas. I can remember searching for a female companion on Mother's Day in the past and absolutely no ladies working inside the bars and no SWs.

My Freedom

Desert Don
10-14-04, 23:29
Mugroso,

What is your Website? I am new in Las Cruces and would like to check things out in Juarez.

Thanks

Clomonger
10-16-04, 02:44
After reading a negative report about Marilyn's here a few days ago, I decided to check things out and take one for the team, if necessary. This afternoon's selections included Betty, who is extremely pleasant and has the plus of a bit of English; and Alondra, that tall, dark, thin beauty who is hotter than a firecracker. Both of these ladies know the meaning of service.

The latest addition to the menu is Lorena, a bit younger and with an exceptionally pretty face. She looked good enough to eat, so I did. A few tongue flicks was all it took to get her off, 3 times no less. Us guys should be so lucky! DFK, BBBJ and several positions to the finish. Total eye contact. This lady was into her work.

Everybody has different tastes, but I'm not ready to cross Marilyn's off of my list just yet.

BorderJumper
10-16-04, 17:28
Ya'll keep in mind too national elections on Nov. 14. No liquor sold!

Dougie
10-16-04, 22:51
I too think I shall try to make this Halloween Mongerpalooza. Assuming I can still get cheap tickets.

BorderJumper
10-17-04, 02:40
Good deal Dougie. I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully DE can join in. How about it buddy?

Mugroso
10-19-04, 04:09
i like the newer messages first. but oh well, you know what they say, "if you don't like it, start your own website.

its not so bad i suppose. this is still the best monger forum i have found so far.

i went back friday night and had a romp with viviana again. this time we didn't have to go to the rooms at las palmeras. the rooms about centro lagunero seem to be open for business. and they have been doing renovations. the rooms are almost as nice as the sleepy iguana. funny thing though, each room has a window to the hallway. no curtains so anybody can peek in. even funnier is the man who takes care of the rooms (a man nana) is a midget and the windows are to hight for him to peek.

when i did viviana i left the lights on. what the hell, i felt daring.

the filthy (exhibitionist) one

Cienega32
10-20-04, 08:43
Mugroso - go to

User CP-Edit Options

You'll find a setting for message list oldest first or newest first. And a few other settings for your liking.

And you mean to tell me that the Las Palmeros rooms are NOT the best in town? :eek:

Sun Devil
10-21-04, 21:40
I am finally back in Juarez after a month absence. I went to Venus II recently, which is on Hermanos Escobar and had a session with Gabby. I think she is the only worker at Venus who gives BJ as part of her standard MO, unlike some of the other chicks who work there, requiring a tip for that. She told me that both Venus and Venus II are owned by the same owner.

I also went to Marylin. Sergio told me that he has recently open a bar on Lopez Mateos and north of Ejercitio Nacional and invited me to go there. I had a session with Alondra. She pretty much remember everything we said prior to me going to Hawaii. I cannot believe the memories of these chicks, they are like elephants`.

Anyway she asked me whether I brought my girlfriend along during the trip. This question has been asked by so many Latin women but I still find it fascinating--oneīs love life is a curiosity to them. Theirs are the only cultural group that ask this question so frequently.

Anyway I am on my way to go to Marisol and am typing this at an internet place at the Soriano shopping center on the corner of Lopez Mateos and south of Oscar Flores. The price is $20 pesos an hour.

Mugroso
10-21-04, 23:05
Anyway I am on my way to go to Marisol and am typing this at an internet place at the Soriano shopping center on the corner of Lopez Mateos and south of Oscar Flores. The price is $20 pesos an hour.

I have had so many chicas complain that internet access is expensive but yet they buy fischas for those rip off cell phones. But I love them all anyway.

Mug

Boeing1048
10-22-04, 01:02
How do I get from the airport in ELP to juarez? Any suggestions?

Coyote79
10-22-04, 03:13
She hasn't been there the last four times I've gone over the last couple of months. I've asked about her, and the girls seem to indicate she's gone--but of course I don't really understand them.

Too bad. . .so hot. . .

So the last four times I've seen Marlena. She's great, but I'm ready for something new & more native-looking, like Claudia.

Whoratio
10-22-04, 21:51
How do I get from the airport in ELP to juarez? Any suggestions?

How fortuitous for you to post this question. Sun Metro now has all their bus routes online in .pdf form for you to download and print. Their website is http://www.elpasotexas.gov/sunmetro/ .

What you do is take the #33 from the airport to the Five Points Terminal and then take the #31 Shuttle from Five Points to downtown. From there it is a short walk to the Santa Fe bridge which connects downtown EP to downtown Juarez. The Zona is right there on your right as you cross the bridge.

The #33 only runs once an hour, the #50 runs every 25 minutes. But the #33 goes right to the airport terminal, to catch the #50 you must walk down several blocks to Montana and wait for the #50. The #50 also goes to Five Points. The #31 Five Points Shuttle runs every 10 minutes. DL the routes and times and plan your trip accordingly. And don't forget to ask the bus driver for a transfer when you board the #33/#50 so you won't have to pay full fare again at Five Points. Total fare is $1.10, beats the shit out of a taxi. Repeat in reverse to get back to the airport.

Whoratio
10-22-04, 21:54
Anyway I am on my way to go to Marisol and am typing this at an internet place at the Soriano shopping center on the corner of Lopez Mateos and south of Oscar Flores. The price is $20 pesos an hour.

Where is Marisol?

Sun Devil
10-23-04, 01:12
Marisol was a disappointment. Two of the girls I generally see over there, Melissa and Michelle, have quit since the last time I was there. Instead, there were three heifers at the place. The turnaround time of girls in this line of work is fairly quick.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone out there know where most of the girls at the Sleepy Iguana are working, now that the place is closed?

Sun Devil
10-23-04, 01:16
What I do is hire a cab at the taxi stand in front of the airport and tell them to take me to the Stanton bridge crossing. I pay them $20, but it is very convenient and all I have to do is walk across to get to Mexico.

Right across the border are cabs and busses that will take you to your hotel.

Sun Devil
10-23-04, 23:36
I used to take Sun Metro busses from the airport to Juarez but the wait was such an inconvenience. If you really want to save money, although a little bit illegal, is to call the El Casa Real Hotel shuttle and say that you want to get to their place from the airport. Their phone is right next to the luggage pick up place in the airport.

Again, one has to wait in front of the airport for their shuttle to pick you up. This waiting area is in front of all the taxis waiting in line to pick up customers. The wait is probably 10 to 15 minutes. The shuttle will pick their customer up and take them to the hotel, which is downtown on El Paso Street, near the Greyhound station. The shuttle is courtesy of the hotel and is free, unless you want to tip the driver.

From there, comes the illegal part of this whole thing. You can go in the hotel and ask for how much the nightly cost of a stay and pretend that it is too much and leave (the nightly cost is about $90) to go to the border, or just start walking away from the shuttle bus to the border on El Paso Street. The border is about 5 to 10 minutes away.

A little high handed mind you and thus something I gave up in doing. I used to justify this endeavor by tipping the shuttle driver generously but decided that ethically it was not good and thus have been using taxis ever since. However, the $40 round trip fare that I pay the cab drivers to and from the airport give me convenience time wise and I save that up by taking the $0.40 busses in Juarez instead of taking the usual $5 cab rides.

Sun Devil
10-23-04, 23:47
Where is Marisol?

Marisol is on corner of Plutarco Calles and Ejercito Nacional. To get there from the border take the 8-A bus all the way to Ejercito Nacional. Wait on Ejercito Nacional for the Orientes Ponientes bus, which is the yellow bus, going south.

Get off the next light, which is the corner of Plutarco Calles and Ejercito Nacional. Marisol is on that street corner next to the convenience store.

Boeing1048
10-24-04, 01:29
Thanks for all your help fellow mongers.

Clydesdale
10-24-04, 22:25
Anyone wearing a costume to the Halloween palooza? :eek:

Mugroso
10-25-04, 06:20
Anyone wearing a costume to the Halloween palooza? :eek:

I will be going as a horny monger with a big boner and money to burn. Anyone else? It would be great if someone else dressed as a sleazy puta, titty dancer. Ok, not that great.

For those who will be attending, how do you all feel about a raffle? Depending on how many show up we pitch in a certain amount for the winner to have himself a woman of his choice. I will count myself out since I only think it is appropriate. What do you guys think?

Mug

Whoratio
10-25-04, 15:39
I used to take Sun Metro busses from the airport to Juarez but the wait was such an inconvenience. If you really want to save money, although a little bit illegal, is to call the El Casa Real Hotel shuttle and say that you want to get to their place from the airport. Their phone is right next to the luggage pick up place in the airport.


That's low, Sun Devil. But I suspect it happens with some degree of regularity, perhaps increasing degree of regularity now that we all know where that magic phone is. :-D

I agree that the wait can be insufferable, especially if you miss the bus by 5 minutes and know it is going to be another hour before another one comes along. But my fall-back plan is to hoof it down to Montana and wait for another bus. Montana is a main drag and the busses run more frequently than the one to the airport. As with most cities, the public transportation is used mainly by folks who cannot afford a car and NEED to get where they are going, so the wait is not optional for them. They really could learn some lessons from their south of the border counterpart with regards to making the bus system more usable.

But there is an upside to riding on Sun Metro. Lots of hot young Latinas ride the bus and I am always horny as hell before I even get to the border. I will sometimes even stop at an MP before making it to the hotel and spend that $20 I saved by riding the bus rather than taking the taxi.

Whoratio
10-25-04, 15:40
Anyone wearing a costume to the Halloween palooza?

I'm going as a bald, horny gringo.

BorderJumper
10-25-04, 16:15
SOunds like a deal Mug....

I want to confirm now that this is for Saturday the 30th, Correct? Halloween is sunday but I doubt if there will be much celebrating in the Zona on that day.

Looking forward to this one!

Red Drum
10-26-04, 23:14
how true is this....kind of doubt it since im pretty sure if this option was available some of you vets would be posting this stuff on the boards

my friend told there are (now i dont know if they are masajeras) phone numbers you call to order for service to your domicile.....i heard of this in juarez but he told me that some of the girls would make the trip to a us address. he told me they charge around 500 pesos. he heard this from truck drivers and other peeps...why im a posting and asking here...because of course he doesnt have the number (s) to call....

anyone out there know of this method...sure will save a trip to j-town

Mugroso
10-26-04, 23:39
We should all meet at the toll booths on the U.S. side between 7-7:15 pm, Saturday, 30 October. Walk over pick up anyone who may wish to wait at the Plaza Mariachi and start the festivities at 7:30pm.

We can either go to the more popular clubs or I will give a tour starting way at the bottom at Las Palmeras and work our way up.

This is just for us guys here one the WSG. So far 6 have RSVP'd and I have met 2 of you guys. So if those attending want to raffle a chica then we all pitch in 10 bucks for a total of 60. If the chica costs more, then the winner should foot the balance.

We still lack an idea on how to find one another. Any ideas? The best I can come up with is I will describe what I am going to wear but hey, I'm a man, can I really follow through?

Let me know guys, I will be there either way.

Clydesdale
10-27-04, 00:28
Hey Mugroso, aren't you going to make up a big sign that says 'MongerPalooza starts here!'?

BorderJumper
10-27-04, 01:49
Guys...I probably will meet everyone at Plaza Mariachi. My thing is the MP's and I intend to do several during the day if everything works out alright and I can borrow a car in El Paso. Too damn cheap to rent.

I would suggest that all that plan on attending PM Mug &/or myself with cell numbers if possibel so we can coordinate.

Is that parking lot by the Santa Fe bridge still there and have any of of you seen any big trucks over there. I'm short a dirver so I think I'll make a little money to make up for what I spend.

Personally, I'm intimately familiar with Sans Souci, Panama and the mainstream clubs. I'm interested in checking out the out of the way clubs where the action mught be cheaper.

Coyote79
10-28-04, 01:25
First went to Cleopatra's.

Only hottie there was Marlena, but I've already seen her four times--want something fresh.

So one of the cabbies talked me into taking me anyplace for $10 total.

Ended up at Venus.

The girls there want fucking $60??!!

When I saw the owner before he said it was only 400 pesos.

RIP-OFF!!!

What is going on there guys?

Chose a gorgeous 19 yo, Christina.

She talks like an American.

But she's kind-of cold, plus kind-of bossy, kind-of equals no tip for Christina.

But it's okay, just feeling up a young hottie like her does it for me.

RearWindow
10-28-04, 01:56
Here is a website no international monger should be without:

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More specifically for this forum:


Use with appropriate caution.
THANK YOU FOR THE COMPUTER VIRUS FROM THIS SITE .

Clydesdale
10-28-04, 02:11
Here is a website no international monger should be without:

ttp://www.insultmonger.co
More specifically for this forum:

ttp://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/mexican_spanish.ht
Use with appropriate caution.

I hope none of the chicas have that many viruses!

RearWindow
10-28-04, 02:46
THANK YOU FOR THE COMPUTER VIRUS FROM THIS SITE
Thank you for THREE friggin viruses that took up 45 minutes of my life to correct. Keep the links to yourselves, please.

BorderJumper
10-28-04, 03:32
how true is this....kind of doubt it since im pretty sure if this option was available some of you vets would be posting this stuff on the boards

my friend told there are (now i dont know if they are masajeras) phone numbers you call to order for service to your domicile.....i heard of this in juarez but he told me that some of the girls would make the trip to a us address. he told me they charge around 500 pesos. he heard this from truck drivers and other peeps...why im a posting and asking here...because of course he doesnt have the number (s) to call....

anyone out there know of this method...sure will save a trip to j-town

i doubt if you'll find any willing or able to come to el paso for 500 peso. all the outcall masjistas advertise in the classifieds of the local juarez paper. i've heard they run around $100 for an hour or so at your location. be careful!

BorderJumper
10-28-04, 18:43
Thank you for THREE friggin viruses that took up 45 minutes of my life to correct. Keep the links to yourselves, please.

Soembody ought to report this ass clown to Jackson. Thank god I use an EMAC. Virus proof!

BorderJumper
10-28-04, 18:47
So one of the cabbies talked me into taking me anyplace for $10 total.

Ended up at Venus.

The girls there want fucking $60??!!

When I saw the owner before he said it was only 400 pesos.

RIP-OFF!!!

What is going on there guys?


What's going on there Coyote, and you answered your own question, is you took a cab to the place. The additional $20 was kicked back to the cabbie as his commission. You don't really think these guys are taking you to these places out of the goodness of their hearts do you?

Read this forum, take notes and next time you are in Juarez and must take a taxi, have them drop you off a few blocks from your destination. Then walk. When finished, most of the MP owners will be glad to call you a cab. Save the propina!

Whoratio
10-28-04, 20:10
Soembody ought to report this ass clown to Jackson. Thank god I use an EMAC. Virus proof!

Spare me the hot air, oh ye of infinite wisdom because you have more posts than I do. After seeing that SOME of you got a virus from the site I tried to delete the message but was unable to do so. I was also unable to report my own messages using the "report post" option so I emailed the forum requesting they delete or edit the offending message.

Clydesdale, RearWindow, you say you got a virus from the site and then you quote the HTML link in your reply. Real frigging smart there you two. If you are able to do so let me suggest you go back and delete YOUR messages which contain links to infected sites.

BTW, my Symantec AV did not detect any viruses and I scanned my machine and did not find any. You guys must have gotten "lucky". Even so, I apologize to anyone out there who got a virus from SOMEONE ELSES site, at least to everyone who hasn't been pricks about it.

Coyote79
10-28-04, 20:54
What's going on there Coyote, and you answered your own question, is you took a cab to the place. The additional $20 was kicked back to the cabbie as his commission. You don't really think these guys are taking you to these places out of the goodness of their hearts do you?

Read this forum, take notes and next time you are in Juarez and must take a taxi, have them drop you off a few blocks from your destination. Then walk. When finished, most of the MP owners will be glad to call you a cab. Save the propina!

Thanks BJ I'll do that.

A related question.

Some MPs say they'll pick you up if you call them at the bridge.

Do the public phones in Juarez accept US coins or calling cards?

I rather not take my cell phone.

BorderJumper
10-28-04, 22:19
You might, and I stress, might, find one or two telephones close to the bridge that will take U.S. coins. Seems as if I've seen them. I know we have a few here in NL. Mexican pay phones though take a LADATEL/TELMEX smart card which you can buy at almost any farmacia or money changer starting at $50.00mn and up. Insert the card into the slot on the phone, wait for the phone to recognize the card and then dial your number. There is an LCD display on these phones to tell you what's happening.

As far the MP's coming to pick you up, that is a new one to me.

Bolongo
10-28-04, 22:32
I know Serena will pick you up if you call. I just call while I am walking across on my cell phone or if I am making an extended trip, I call before I start walking and put it back in the car and meet them there. It works for me so far.

Clydesdale
10-29-04, 00:44
I know Serena will pick you up if you call. I just call while I am walking across on my cell phone or if I am making an extended trip, I call before I start walking and put it back in the car and meet them there. It works for me so far.

Luxxor will pick you up also.

Mugroso
10-29-04, 01:11
Chose a gorgeous 19 yo, Christina.

She talks like an American.

But she's kind-of cold, plus kind-of bossy, kind-of equals no tip for Christina.

But it's okay, just feeling up a young hottie like her does it for me.


Did she happen to mention a certain website which she happens to be the only MP girl currently in the collection?

Mug

Clydesdale
10-29-04, 01:23
Clydesdale, RearWindow, you say you got a virus from the site and then you quote the HTML link in your reply. Real frigging smart there you two. If you are able to do so let me suggest you go back and delete YOUR messages which contain links to infected sites.

BTW, my Symantec AV did not detect any viruses and I scanned my machine and did not find any. You guys must have gotten "lucky". Even so, I apologize to anyone out there who got a virus from SOMEONE ELSES site, at least to everyone who hasn't been pricks about it.

Actually, technically it wasn't a virus, just malicious code, as stated in my title. The chica virus thing was just to add a little humor. If you clicked on the box disguising itself as an ActiveX control, you downloaded and installed software that steals a lot of system resources and causes numerous system conflicts. It slipped by Norton AV, SpyBot search and destroy, and my firewall. AV software won't find it. SpyBot probably would have caught it in the next scan, but I didn't have to wait because my firewall immediately started flagging it trying to send info off my computer. I wasn't attacking, just warning.

Now on to the important stuff - the Halloweeniepalooza. I sent a few of you my #; anyone else needs it - pm me. It will be fun. BE THERE!

Dougie
10-29-04, 01:24
I guess I will meet up to you hombres on the Mexican side of the border, assuming I am able to drag myself downtown. I will have had a LONG day of travelling and will be pretty crispy by nightfall. But I hope to see you there. Perhaps I will wear a nametag or something so you will recognize me. Anyone else, besides BorderJumper, who will be meeting up on the Mexican side of the border??

Coyote79
10-29-04, 02:36
Did she happen to mention a certain website which she happens to be the only MP girl currently in the collection?


Nope.

Christina's not much for conversation.

My hands are still have a little frostbite on 'em from her.

What website is she in?

RearWindow
10-29-04, 02:50
Actually, technically it wasn't a virus, just malicious code, as stated in my title. The chica virus thing was just to add a little humor. If you clicked on the box disguising itself as an ActiveX control, you downloaded and installed software that steals a lot of system resources and causes numerous system conflicts. It slipped by Norton AV, SpyBot search and destroy, and my firewall. AV software won't find it. SpyBot probably would have caught it in the next scan, but I didn't have to wait because my firewall immediately started flagging it trying to send info off my computer. I wasn't attacking, just warning.

Now on to the important stuff - the Halloweeniepalooza. I sent a few of you my #; anyone else needs it - pm me. It will be fun. BE THERE!
I got the same thing. Slipped around most of my security, but AVG alerted me.I have SpyBot as well, but it won't alert to intrusions.Sorry to be so rude, but that is very aggravating. And I am very sorry to miss this fiesta. Have a great time,gents!

Bolongo
10-29-04, 06:00
Well looks like I won't be joining you all. I have a date with a girl. Hopefully she doesn't flake out on me. If she does, well I will just have to catch up to you all! I have never heard of Luxxor. If you got any info, numbers, rating of girls, cost, services, etc., and any other MPs, I would apreciate it. I am a memeber of Mug's site. I am lookin forward to the updates. Christina is nice and plan on going to see her. Just one sugestion for ya Mug... For each place, can you go into a little more detail of the place? The do's and don'ts, who to look for and who to avoid, how much to expect to pay, scams, etc. I am comfortable some what with the bars, but I am more interested n the MP scene. Since I will not drive over there and speak two spanish words, all the navigation help is needed. I don't mind walking around a little. I cross at the Sante FE bridge. And Yes, I have RTFF and have tried to build a guide for the MPs over there, but no real clear help. I only went to Serena, and the one across from it (they were closed).

I am kinda tired of going to just the Caberet and the annoying lady with the cup asking for a dollar even when you are getting a dance, and would like a little more freedom of movement. Also, no reviews of the Pink Lady? Whats the deal now with that place?

95 Vette
10-29-04, 08:12
About the virus thing ...

Why click on the box in the first place? I know most of you won't, but then if you didn't, you wouldnt have that problem to begin with. When going to a site, and those "you must click yes" just click cancel(even though it will be 20 times) and you can still access the site.

On one site, my brother decided to just go ahead and click YES because he was tired of that thing popping up(different site), needless to say I had to reformat his computer because it installs a TON of spyware/malware/adware into your system.

With/without an antivirus, just don't click anything !

Coyote79
10-29-04, 15:03
Spare me the hot air, oh ye of infinite wisdom because you have more posts than I do. After seeing that SOME of you got a virus from the site I tried to delete the message but was unable to do so. I was also unable to report my own messages using the "report post" option so I emailed the forum requesting they delete or edit the offending message.

Clydesdale, RearWindow, you say you got a virus from the site and then you quote the HTML link in your reply. Real frigging smart there you two. If you are able to do so let me suggest you go back and delete YOUR messages which contain links to infected sites.

BTW, my Symantec AV did not detect any viruses and I scanned my machine and did not find any. You guys must have gotten "lucky". Even so, I apologize to anyone out there who got a virus from SOMEONE ELSES site, at least to everyone who hasn't been pricks about it.Dude, I got to wonder, why exactly would you post URLs to sites that are unrelated to this forum?

Whoratio
10-29-04, 15:24
About the virus thing ...

With/without an antivirus, just don't click anything !

Glad you picked up on that, Vette, cuz now I don't feel like such a heel. And thanks to Jackson for deleting my original post, but in retrospect I wish I had not asked him to because common sense would have saved the folks who had trouble with this site from the grief it caused them.

Anybody out there using a computer to surf the net, and I do mean ANYONE, is going to be subjected to shit like this at every turn. And sex/adult/mature sites are the worst offenders of the lot. Jackson does a good job of keeping his system clean of this sort of crap but you can bet your favorite testicle that the spyware pimps out there are working day and night to hang their fruits on the tree we are eating from here. But the ultimate responsibility falls to the individual user to safeguard themselves against it. And to not whine that it is someone elses fault when it does happen because of their own negligence.

Here is another point. The biggest hole in Internet Explorer's security is this god damn Active-X shit. If any of you out there are still using Internet Explorer you need to go into the setup and disable Active-X controls from websites. IE is so stupid that if a site sends an Active-X script to your computer to reformat your hard drive IE will just go ahead and do it, no questions asked. A better option is to delete IE and start running Firefox, like me. I never even saw the offending pop-up that got you guys because I have my Firefox set to block them. And Active-X disabled to boot. So I am spyware/adware/ect-proof to a large degree. But then I have only been doing computer shit for 25 years since the days of Altairs I built myself and did not just discover them yesterday after they became disposable consumer entertainment appliances.

Bolongo
10-29-04, 20:54
The new search method is not to good. I do RTFF, but I can't find it so I am asking. WHen taking a cab from the Sante Fe Bridge to Venus, what is the land mark to give the cabbie, and then where do I go? Is it Montana steak house?

Clydesdale
10-29-04, 23:27
I have never heard of Luxxor. If you got any info, numbers, rating of girls, cost, services, etc., and any other MPs,

The El paso # for Luxxor is 915-256-0518. Mexico # is 01152-656-632-5557. Price is $35. I posted a map a while back. It's a couple miles if you walk it. The lady in charge speaks English. I've seen a couple of cuties and a couple of scaries in there.

Bolongo
10-30-04, 00:54
The El paso # for Luxxor is 915-256-0518. Mexico # is 01152-656-632-5557. Price is $35. I posted a map a while back. It's a couple miles if you walk it.

Yeah, I know there were some maps posted and directions posted earlier, but the new search format will not let me find them.

DreamingEagle
10-31-04, 09:46
Haven't checked into the forum in almost a month because of a programming project. Dougie called tonight to invite me to the big event, but there was no way I could get out because of commitments. Having cable Internet here in Juarez has enabled me to make $50 an hour, and certain things were promised by Monday morning. If I had known, all I had to do was not commit. But I did, and that's that.

Hope everyone had a great time.

Bolongo
11-01-04, 03:07
So I went to Luxxor today. They are open from 10 am to 9 pm during the week and saturdays and from 12-6 on sunday. Weekdays and saturdays they have 10 girls and on Sunday there are 5. The 4 were all decent today, but The choice was between Alex and Vanessa or Victoria. I can't remember which was which. She has braces. I decided to go with Alex cuz her breasts were bigger, and she looked like she was more of a freak. The one with braces was pretty and looked more American. The place is nice. A separate bar area, a barber shop, and private dance area with a pole, a buffet area, and a cocktail room. The cost was $40 ( The sign said $35 but I guess since they came to pick me up it was another $5). The massage was ok. She soon whipped out the condom and hopped on. then a little doggy and mish. it was pretty good. Afterwards, she just laid there catching her breath while I showered. She watched me from the time I got out the shower dripping wet until I put my clothes on. She said something, but I don't speak spanish and she said it real low. I am only 25 and I am kinda cut. I gave her a $10 tip cuz I didn;t want to give her a $20. She was all over me walking out and had my arm around her. She was saying something to the other girls on the couch while I talked to the main lady about my stay. She speaks english well. When I sat down to wait for the guy to give me a ride back, they were all looking at me and smiling and real friendly. The atmosphere there is nice and laid back. Oh, and a bud or budlight is only $2. Next time I am gonna try the one with braces unless I see something more inticing.

Cienega32
11-01-04, 23:47
Are they still partaking?

Have they become floats in the Day of The Dead parade?

Did the participants end up in a dirt-floor cell somewhere in the bowels of our beloved Juarez?

For those of us that are, at the moment, living vicariously thru your activities - WE NEED REPORTS! ;)

Mugroso
11-02-04, 00:39
Heres a little rundown on the palooza. The only one who showed up at the "park" was Clydesdale. We waited for any stragglers but none showed so we crossed the border and met up with BJ, Dougie, and another who is not yet up graded to regular member so in good taste I won't mention his name. I don't know why but it was real easy to spot the guys. It was a shame Scoup couldn't make it and I guess Bolongo's girl didn't flake out.

Here is a rundown.

Lots of spooky women at Las Palmeras. Cienega, Isela is happy again, you know why.
Centro Lagunero, fatty central didn't let me down, we left promptly. Delivered Viviana's pics, I'm sure she loved them, but she seemed a bit disappointed that I didn't bring her the inappropriate pics.
Minnie was pretty hot looking at the AŮo Nuevo. Don't ask me why I didn't take her to the room, she looked so sweet sucking that lollipop.
Eduardo's was dead, I only saw 4 girls. Typical for this place which is why I never stay.
Irmas, well, we just kept on walking. This place is as close to TJ as it gets in Juarez.
We bypassed Faustos, I don't know why, they always have eye candy.
Both Dianas were delicious looking at the Las Vegas Bar along with other hotties to many to mention.
Queens Place is always fantastic. Thats my favorite place in all of Mexico. Yessenia wasn't working, she would have been quite a show piece. Janet liked her pics.
We dropped into a new club, M&M, and left. Nice chicas but the crowd there was a bunch of young punks. I would like to have a soda there sometime but only when the clientel matures a bit.
By this time we were down to 3 guys and while walking over to the Rancho Grande we ran into this chick, Yvette. She is American who got ditched in Juarez. So now us three plus one went over to the Rancho Grande.
One cutie at Rancho Grande. There was one hottie, Stefanie. I could have gone with her for 40 bucks but I had an eye on one other.
After Rancho we headed out aimlessly and BJ went his way. Me and Clydesdale plus one went to the AŮo Nuevo again. There I put the move on Yvette. I will spare you the details.
We had a great time. The only drawback was the loud music interfering with good conversation. We may have to plan for the next one with that in consideration. Clydesdale is a great guy. He gave me and Yvette a 2 block ride to my truck after the fest.
My palooza didn't end there. It ended Monday morning when I dropped off Yvette at her place. Cool girl, I hope to see her again.

The Fillthy(lucky)One

Sun Devil
11-02-04, 06:20
I went to Luxxor last weekend, where I was entertained by a lady named Crystal, who usually works the early shift of 11 am to 6 pm. I had a great time with her due to her cheery personality. Afterwards, I had a pedicure at the premises. The cost was $180 pesos. If you want, you can get a manicure as well, which costs $100 pesos, plus other services that a beauty salon typically offers.

One of the owners gave me a tour of the place. It is now a combination massage parlor and beauty salon, hence the services for the pedicure and the manicure. Adjoining the two establishments is a living room with sofas, magazines, and TV. It is really becoming a truly classy place.

In addition, the owner indicated that there is going to be a steam room, along with a room for a bachelor party. If you want, you can ask for beer at the place. One of the male workers there does errands for the girls and owner. There is a convenience store around the corner where this guy can get you food and booze.

Cienega32
11-02-04, 10:28
MUGROSO: Thank you for the report. I can almost smell the 2AM exhaust fumes!

Las Palmeras seems to get spookier every time I go there. Glad to hear it's staying true to form. & thanks.

Where is/what was this new club M&M? And where is Rancho Grande? I don't remember that one but I haven't been there since May :( .


Glad to hear you all got thru with a safe fun time.

BorderJumper
11-03-04, 03:34
I'm in Palm Springs still recovering from the weekend although I will be back in Juarez tomorrow night or Thursday.

I concur with Mugroso on his report. Gret bunch guys and a pleasure to meet. The music sucks though. I'm still hearing it!

I came back looking for you and the crew Mug. Seems as Ricardo didn't set his clock back, ran my ride offso I ended up walking across the bridge and a $35.00 taxi ride back to my truck with a Republican Bush lover at the wheel. Pure torture! Should gone to the Villa Manport instead. Next time, I will rent a car from Avis!

Glad to hear you and Yvette made the deal! Way to go man. Give us the down and dirty!

Mugroso
11-03-04, 04:30
I came back looking for you and the crew Mug. Seems as Ricardo didn't set his clock back, ran my ride offso I ended up walking across the bridge and a $35.00 taxi ride back to my truck with a Republican Bush lover at the wheel. Pure torture! Should gone to the Villa Manport instead. Next time, I will rent a car from Avis!

Glad to hear you and Yvette made the deal! Way to go man. Give us the down and dirty!

BJ
You should have called my cell. You would have saved 35 bucks and I would have been out numbered on the Bush/Kerry debate. Can't believe you paid 35 to hear someone elses point of view.

Cienega
If you exit Queens and cross the street angleing left to the gasoline parking and cross the next street, it is there.

Mug

Clydesdale
11-04-04, 06:03
The Halloween gathering was fun, and I second the reports of BorderJumper and Mugroso. Mugroso, BorderJumper, Dougie, and the other partier were a fun group.
Here's a couple of counterpoints to Mugroso's post. He said there was one hottie at Rancho Grande. That doesn't begin to describe her. She was the finest I saw all night - nice tight body with nice tits. I hope that's the start of a trend there. The last 2 times I've been there there's been some babes. usually the quality isn't too good. I gave Yvette (the girl Mugroso hooked up with) a buck to tip the dancer and she got a good show. Made me wish I would have done it myself, but I wanted to see her reaction.
Queen's used to be my favorite also, but now Las Vegas is starting to win me over as my favorite. I wonder if Diana2 has anything to do with that? In addition to her, there's Diana1, Claudia (pictured on Mugroso's site) and many others. The other guys were patient enough to wait while Diana2 and I went out for a stroll. Mugroso kindly snapped foto of us, which I posted in the photo section. I had to edit it slightly since I was having a bad hair day.
We will have to make these regular events.

Cienega32
11-04-04, 06:31
Clydesdale - that looks like a cute little cutie.

Just another message to read for me to kick myself in the a*s for not being able to get out of town. I would've liked to have been able to meet you guys. And Dougie too - to share notes on the old Alpine Village!

Anyway - thanks to your picture post I'll be able to pick you out of the crowd now & invite you to a cold one when I'm there.

Mugroso
11-04-04, 14:19
Guys

I recieved an email from a reporter at the Diario, the Juarez newspaper. It contained several questions. I replyed asking for what reason and the response was there is going to be an article coming out soon about my website.

At first I was going to ignore it but I think I should answer the questions. If I don't I'm sure the article will be written the way the reporter feels it should be written. I have taken the chica pics down on the free pages to prevent then from being printed in the paper. This is only temporary.

His impression is my site promotes sexual tourism which is contrary, I promote the strip bars.

I hope I haven't finally bitten off more than I could chew.

Mug

Mugroso
11-05-04, 01:14
I answered the reporters questions. I figure a reporter will complete his assignment no matter if I answer. This is the only opportunity to speak out in the Mexican press. Either that or be demonized in print.

Below are the answers if anyone is interested.

Martin
First a little background on my website. I started my website the 7th of July 2004. I modeled it after ladiesofnogales.com
Americans donít visit Juarez as much as they used to. Juarez has gotten an unjustified reputation over the years and the tragedy of September 11 didnít help much. Americans donít cross the border as much because of rumors about crooked police and fear of street thugs. My website assures them that the rumors are just not true. The police of Juarez are generally honest and very friendly and thugs are not as common as one would think.
As far as the bars are concerned some are good, others are not. I offer reviews of such places just as a critic reviews a movie or a restaurant. I am not employed by the bars and receive no payments or support in any way. Also included in my member pages is some basic Spanish. Proper phrases to say such as. ďthank you, no, yes, I would like a beerĒ etc. I also suggest a couple of restaurants to eat at should one want to sample some of the local flavors.
What I donít do is promote prostitution. The brothels downtown are not mentioned at all on my website. My website is not intended to promote sexual tourism in any way. Members and visitors to my website ask me questions in regards to the sex industry in Juarez and I explain to them in the way I have explained it to you.

How long have you had the website and what have been the results?
My website has been up since July of 2004. To this date I have had over 9000 visitors to the website and a few have become members. Visitors to the site are mostly Americans although I have visits from Europe and the Middle East.

How do you see the economic situation with the bars you promote on your website?
I really donít know the economic situation of the bars in downtown Juarez. I donít know how well the bars profit. I am not supported by the bars to promote them.

Who are and where do your principle clients come from?
My clients are mostly men from the United States.

Have you had visitors from contries other than the United States?
I have had inquiries from other countries. So far no one has traveled from outside the United States to visit Juarez. I have had Saudi Arabians ask me to send them a woman however I donít offer such a service. My website only provides advise and information on bars in Juarez.

What do you charge for the services you offer?
I charge 24.99USD to access the member pages and 30 dollars for an escorted tour of the bars in downtown Juarez.

Martin, thank you for your interest in my site. If you have any further questions please feel free to email me.

Webmaster of the **************.com

BorderJumper
11-05-04, 13:36
Interesting Mug. What brought your site to the attention of this reporter, I wonder.

I'd step lightly though around this issue though with the change in government less than 30 days away.

It remains to be seen if the "new" PRI will continue to take the country in a positive direction or if things will soon revert back tot he way they always were with the corruption and all.

I do know quite a few of the bar owners are looking forward to being able to remian open until 4 in the morning within th enext year as these "permits" for the added hours are supposedly going to become available.

I'm curious also Mug. Did this reporter seem to have a bias one way or the other about your website and it's subject matter?

I do know also, that here in NL and elsewhere, there is always talk of closing down the zonas and putting an end to the sex tourism business. No doubt at the urging of authorities north of the border.

Keep us informed here l'il buddy!

Cienega32
11-06-04, 10:49
I remember being told some time ago that the border bars closed at 2 to agree with U.S. requests or some crap like that. This was after a trip or two to TJ a while back and I didn't really think about it much. Being from Vegas I have to "adjust" anytime I leave home...

Is there any truth to this? Was it to "help" a border country? I thought I remember hearing a long, long time ago that they were a late nite thing - even past 4AM.

Dougie
11-06-04, 20:35
Are they still partaking?

Have they become floats in the Day of The Dead parade?

Did the participants end up in a dirt-floor cell somewhere in the bowels of our beloved Juarez?

For those of us that are, at the moment, living vicariously thru your activities - WE NEED REPORTS! ;)

My palooza is still going strong almost a week later. :-D But I must admit I was a bit of a weenie last weekend. Unfortunately I had not slept more than two hours the night before, had been travelling all day and had not eaten anything besides a nasty airport hot dog and some milk and donuts all day. And I was still two time zones ahead of the rest of the guys. So come round 9:00pm that evening I was dead on my feet and wimped out. Sounds like the rest of the crew just kept going and going like a perverted little pack of Energizer Bunnies. But I did not feel like I had missed anything since BJ and I had already hit the MPs before the evening festivities had even begun. My nightcap consisted, unfortunately, of having to hoof it all the way from the Zona to the Villa Manport having waited until after the last of the busses had run to pack it in. That's a pretty good little stroll, especially at night in Juarez on Halloween weekend. Needless to say I slept like a cadaver that night.

Speaking of cadavers, the Day of the Dead festivities this year seem to have been sharply attenuated. Unfortunately and unbeknownst to me a few months back the Mercado Cuahotemoc burned practically to the ground, the only thing left standing is the metal framework and masonry shell and it is being demolished even as we speak. This doubly sucks since the place had just recently been renovated on the outside and, according to locals, none of the vendors were insured and lost all their stock and other business assets. This had the net effect of displacing all of the street vendors who previously occupied the perimeter of the Mercado onto the cathedral grounds. So there was really no place outside the cemeteries for the "public" DOD ceremonies, which were therefore reduced to a few folks dressed as skeletons. Bummer. But on the bright side, there is a new Mercado Reforma being constructed just a couple of blocks east of the old Mercado Cuahtemoc so hopefully in the near future the vendors will have a new home.

Other than that, Juarez is just the same old same old. The MPs are still staffed by a collection ranging in size, tending toward the gordita end of the spectrum. There are bright spots though. There is a young hottie named Sol at El Encanto and another named Joanna at Cleopatra's. Joanna has dark skin and a dynamite J-Lo ass and set of legs and a panocha to die for. So far she is my favorita of the trip. Neither is bad looking in the face either, if not beautiful. Cleo's also has a couple of other good prospects, one that looks REAL young that I have not had the pleasure of partaking of just yet and another that is slender and very pretty in the face. Can't remember their names though, being mesmerized by Joanna's fantastic ass and legs. ;^) There is another muchacha with a fine J-Lo ass and legs and great chi-chis at Felinas named Yoli but she is older, says she is 28, and not much to look at in the face. OK on her back though. From what I have seen you can skip Serinas and Corpus, and Luxxor only had one looker the day I was there and one who looked to be a TS or TV named Alex. Alex kind of gave me the creeps.

Corpus and El Encanto are upselling from their "base" price of $300MN whereas Genesis and Felinas are not. And no upselling from the base $350MN at Luxxor or Cleo's either. Sirenas is still sticking to the $400MN and trying to upsell REAL hard to upsell to a $600MN session in the Jacuzzi. It might be worth it if there were some quality dishes on the menu, but unfortunately there ain't. Too bad too, with such a convenient location.

Anyway, the day is wearing on and the muchachas should be arriving at the MPs right about now so I think I will be out to carve a couple of more notches before calling it a trip.

Dougie
11-06-04, 20:41
Mugroso kindly snapped foto of us, which I posted in the photo section. I had to edit it slightly since I was having a bad hair day.

A bad hair day is when you FINALLY go to Wal-Mart, buy a set of clippers, and just cut all the shit off down to about 3/8". ;^)

Dougie
11-06-04, 20:51
I recieved an email from a reporter at the Diario, the Juarez newspaper. It contained several questions. I replyed asking for what reason and the response was there is going to be an article coming out soon about my website.

His impression is my site promotes sexual tourism which is contrary, I promote the strip bars.

I hope I haven't finally bitten off more than I could chew.

Sounds like they are preparing to smear shit all over themselves and then complain about being covered with shit. I don't understand this mindset. You may not be overtly promoting sex tourism but only a fool thinks gringos in the Zona are not there looking for pussy. The Zona and the MPs are a source of "hard" currency :-D, and have been for years (decades, centuries??). In an otherwise declining economy nonetheless. :-( No doubt the article about your site will run alongside another article whining about the loss of jobs, increase in poverty, yada, yada. Shooting themselves in both feet at one time. And the funny thing is, nothing is going to change. Lip service will be paid, a few gringos will be shaken down and harassed and maybe a few bar owners will temporarly lose their license until the promise to "clean up". In the end the Zona will be sleazier, the population will be poorer and gringos will still be crossing the border looking for pussy.

Dougie
11-06-04, 20:55
I remember being told some time ago that the border bars closed at 2 to agree with U.S. requests or some crap like that.

The thing is, 18 year olds pour over from EP to booze it up in downtown Juarez. This is a sore point and has been for some time. Like with Mug's case you can expect lip service and not much else. I gotta think that by 2am most folks are getting played out anyway, so the whole thing is a great big non-issue in the first place.

Dougie
11-06-04, 20:59
I would've liked to have been able to meet you guys. And Dougie too - to share notes on the old Alpine Village!

And I am going to make some of that soup from the recipe you sent me when I get back. Promise.

BorderJumper
11-07-04, 00:57
Hey guy! I was wondering if we were going to have to send S&R looking for you!

You know the 4 am thing is nothing new.. With the 2 am closing, quite a few of the bars have kept their back rooms open until almost daylight. Especially convenient for the truckstop shuttle drivers to gouge a few more bucks out of the customers.

So tell me guys, is your opinion of the lowly truck driver elevated somewhat?

And Dougie. The hair clipper comment! IT's a bad haircut but you oughta see the doll in Laredo that does it!

Clydesdale
11-07-04, 01:15
So tell me guys, is your opinion of the lowly truck driver elevated somewhat?



Yes. You won't find any bad comments about truckers from me in this forum. Heck, my sister in law is one.
I'll buy you a drink next time Border Jumper. You bought the last round at Rancho Grande, then called it a night before I could return the favor.

BorderJumper
11-07-04, 05:03
I wasn't fishing for a compliment or anything.

I saw Dougies post and I was reflecting the diversity of our occupations, those of us that were there, and on other posts derogatory, with good cause sometimes, to truckers and had to throw that in. Unfortunately, peoples minds are made up by the bad behavior of a few, either on the road or in the zona and there is a rough crowd that comes down with the shuttles.

I've been in it for thirty years with few regrets. I've made a ton of money in it. Owned as many as 5 at one time, three right now, and really, I stay behind the wheel for the freedom it gives me.

What it all boils down to, Mongerpalooza II and beyond, is despite what we've chosen to do in life, when it comes to the hobby, there's no difference in us at all. There's no room either for overbearing egos which a lot of guys seem to have lately. I'm not talking specifics or about anyone here but just in generalizations. When it all comes down to it what are we doing but buying pussy and trying to hold on to our youth through proxy!

Hell, when I was in school way back when, Jr. High through College, buying poon was something to be embarrassed about because real men didn't have to. Who would believe that 30 some odd years later attitudes would change.

Enough philosophising <sp>! I'll take you up on the next round and looking forward to it!

Whoratio
11-10-04, 22:53
Americans donít cross the border as much because of rumors about crooked police and fear of street thugs.

Funny my first time to be able to get back on the site since I returned from Juarez/EP, I see this post. I would have loved to have gone mongering with you guys Halloween weekend, but guess what? I had not made it more than two blocks into town before I caught the attention of Juarez' "finest" and was subjected to an extremely humiliating and thorough search of my person and my possessions right there on Ave. Fco. Villa. Hell, I was not even on Juarez Avenue. This was by two Policia Municipal in one of those pickup trucks and also by a cop in a small car who happened on the scene. I literally had everything I owned spread out on the hood of this pickup truck, clothes, toiletries, condoms, money, everything.

I was interrogated at length about the purpose of my visit, was I looking for drugs, GIRLS (they saw the two boxes of condoms of course), where was I staying, WHO was I going to meet there (I kept my mouth shut). This went on and on for about half an hour, finally I was allowed to go but only after having a mordita of $20 for EACH of the assholes there extracted to keep me from having to go talk to the judge. This was a good percentage of the cash I had on my person. Fuck!

After escaping from this unpleasant situation without a trip to the jail I decided that this was not the way to start a vacation and I just turned around and headed back across the border. I just got a room in EP, rented a car and decided to just check out some of the local attractions there. I did visit the Space Museum and White Sands in Alamogordo but I decided that I did not need to press my luck and venture another trip south of the border. I seriously doubt that I will ever set foot in Mexico again. At least that is the way I feel right now.

It's not like I have not been shaken down by crooked cops before, but each time I about halfway felt like I deserved it, being someplace I "shouldn't" have been or doing something I "shouldn't" have been doing. But this time I was walking down the street with an overnight bag over my shoulder in broad daylight on Saturday afternoon. Nowhere near the Zona, heading away from downtown. And don't anyone start apologizing for these pricks, no matter how poorly paid someone is there is simply no excuse for police robbery of tourists. It just ain't right and there is no excuse for it. Like I said, it would have been great to meet up with you guys but I ain't planning no more trips to Mexico for a LONG time.

ChuCho Dan
11-11-04, 06:18
I went by Cleopatras hoping to get a massage and the front was chained up it looks like they may have gone out of business. Does anyone have the low down on whats going on there.

Cienega32
11-12-04, 11:20
For what it's worth RE: truckers - I drive where/when ever I travel and upon returning home I always here a few folks that seem to complain about the trucks and the drivers. Myself - I think they're great. They (99%) know how to drive and if "you" get with the program it can be a great trip. Most people can learn a few things by watching their methods & protocols. By matching their courtesy an Interstate trip can be very, very stressfree. Of course, as with anything, there are a few jackoffs that give them a bad name.

In a previous "life" I had to deal with drivers on a daily basis in a bar environment & 99% were the goods. But a few would be deadheading or 3 days straight (w/ help) and then start drinking hard. THEY could be a problem when it got to their heads but the "goods" would always take care of their own.

Truckers, in general, I will never have anything bad to say about. 25 years ago, in a very wicked Virginia fog, driving a full size station wagon and a Jartran trailer I had some "problems" seeing three feet in front of me. A driver who was just cruising, without a problem, down the hiway saw that, pulled in front of me and let me ride his tail lights until visibility returned - about an hour. He flashed his lights and travelled off. I'll never forget it.

I'm in Vegas and I see the attitudes change in a slew of people just because of where they are. It's a carefree place to raise hell and they act stupid & loud. I figure it's the same in Juarez. Like Eddie Murphy said in one of his old novies - "Lack of pussy makes me STUPID!".

And I've been feeling a little stupid lately. Think I'll hit The Zona in the next week or two.

Red Drum
11-12-04, 17:45
Anyone know how to get to MP Cleopatras

Need to visit a JLO butt :)

Cienega32
11-12-04, 23:40
After crossing the Sante Fe bridge you travel about 4 blocks down Ave Juarez and it's on your left - 2 or 3 doors in - on Ignacio Mejia. I'm pretty sure that's the street name. About a block past the plaza. There's a Cambio on the right side corner of Ave Juarez and a cigarette cart in front.

For better and quicker results "search" is your friend.

RearWindow
11-13-04, 08:49
. 25 years ago, in a very wicked Virginia fog, driving a full size station wagon and a Jartran trailer I had some "problems" seeing three feet in front of me. A driver who was just cruising, without a problem, down the hiway saw that, pulled in front of me and let me ride his tail lights until visibility returned - about an hour. He flashed his lights and travelled off. I'll never forget it.. Not exactly "Big Joe and Phantom 309", but not bad.;) I hope all here are well.

Mugroso
11-13-04, 17:40
Started the night at Venus Massage. What a waste of time. 3 girls available and all less than desireable. However we (myself and my tour) must have arrived at shift change because I saw about 4 or 5 chicas leaving upon our arrival. One was smoking hot, tall and an ass to die for.


Next stop, Pink Ladies. I haven't been to the Pink since the re-location. Nice looking place, small but well done. It took a while but I remember this place inspite of the remodeling.
Years ago, after the first Gulf War a buddy of mine and a friend of his (Hank Williams Jr look a like) went to Juarez and wound up at this place. I forget what it was called and I don't know how we found it since I didn't know shit about Juarez back then.
Anyways, back to the tour. The chicas weren't bad but not worth the initial 60 dollar offer. 40 dollar quality chicas in my opinion. Half way through the visit 4 hot chicas arrive but they had attitude. They would not acknowledge anyone that tried to get their attention.

So off to downtown. First stop, Ebenezers burritos. I had a chicharon burrito and I don't know how many "tour" had. Finally it was time to see the bars.

First stop, Las Palmeras. Not as good as other nights but fair. Cienega, Isela is getting very aggressive these days. She was yanking my arm and just about demanding I convince "tour" to buy some new chica a drink. Her daughter, Arcely almost has the same attitude with me. Finally we left.

Eventually we wound up back at the burrito stand. Adrian, the owner is one cool dude. He speaks very good English and is a great conversationalist. If you guys want a good central location this place is it. Before the girls go to work, many of them stop here for a burrito and he delivers to the clubs. He knows the low down on the chicas. So much, he should start a website. Adrian was preparing a delicious looking steak burrito for another customer. We ordered some for ourselves but he had to deliver them and get more steak. While waiting we (I) decided to hit some bars and warm up.

Guys, Yessenia was smoking hot. Her birthday is Sunday, so be sure to visit her soon. Clydesdale, we wound up back at Rancho Grande and the hot chica wasn't there. Bummer.

So we wind up back at the burritos and had our steak burritos. All in all, I think we spend more time at the burritos than the bar.

Finally it was time for me. We went to the AŮo Nuevo and had Minnie again for 27 bucks. We went upstairs where she finished a roach, took some pics, and got down and dirty. She was weird, she kept saying, "Ow, be nice, no, stop the car" and other weird shit that mad no sense. Good and bad, I have had women tell me odd things but never to stop the car while in bed. I feel so special now. I must return.


Mugroso

Bolongo
11-14-04, 05:52
I posted a report about 2 weeks ago but I have not seen it so I will try again.

I went to Luxxor about 2 weeks ago on a sunday. I called and they picked me up from the bridge. on sundays there are 5 girls working and 10 during the week. I was given the tour. ITs a nice spot. It has a coctail area, a buffet area, a bar, a barber shop/ beauty salon, and a private dance area. All 5 looked ok, but I was gonna pick between one more AMerican looking named either Vanessa or Victoria (she had braces) and a more Mexican and slim Alex. I chose Alex cuz she looked more like a freak. It was $40 for an hour. I guess the other $5 was for picking me up and taking me back. The massage was ok. The porn tape playing was not my kinda porn, then we got it on. It was a pretty good time. I don't speak spanish so it was a little awkward on conversation. Afterwards she just laid there and asked me if I wanted a shower. I jumped in the shower while she just laid there. She got dressed and then watched me dry off and get dressed. She was saying things to her self under her breath and in spanish so I have no idea what she was saying. I hope it was good since I am only 24 and I am in good shape. I gave her a tip and she was really happy about it! The lady in the front speaks good english and she asked me how it was. Since they were now closing, all of the girls were up front and Alex was talking to them. After I finished talking to the lady up front, I sat down to wait for the guy to come back to get me. The other girls were looking at me with big smiles on their faces. Over all, it was a friendly environment. Would be nice if they got a few rooms with beds or larger tables. All in all, it was a good time.

Bolongo
11-14-04, 06:03
Also, I was in another forum and I found this. what does it mean? I put it in Alta Vista and I couldn't understand what it was saying. Thanks.

Como hace mucho o mas bien nadie dice nada de los masajes ahi les va un review

Loyred esta a espaldas de hipermart sn lorenzo en el segundo piso de unos locales comerciales. Por lo general las chavas de ah estan llenitas pero hacen unos
jales cabrones.

Es una chava guerita llenita de hojos verdes.

Te hace unas mamadas de garganta profunda y te deja que te vengas en la garganta ademas dee eso si le pides que te lamba el anillo te lo hace con gusto , de los guevos se pasa al anillo y asi , no te da prisa. Esta llenita pero despues de la mamadota te lo deja todo flacido. Vale la pena si se te antoja una mamada agresiva

DreamingEagle
11-14-04, 08:26
Funny my first time to be able to get back on the site since I returned from Juarez/EP, I see this post. I would have loved to have gone mongering with you guys Halloween weekend, but guess what? I had not made it more than two blocks into town before I caught the attention of Juarez' "finest" and was subjected to an extremely humiliating and thorough search of my person and my possessions right there on Ave. Fco. Villa. Hell, I was not even on Juarez Avenue. This was by two Policia Municipal in one of those pickup trucks and also by a cop in a small car who happened on the scene. I literally had everything I owned spread out on the hood of this pickup truck, clothes, toiletries, condoms, money, everything.

I was interrogated at length about the purpose of my visit, was I looking for drugs, GIRLS (they saw the two boxes of condoms of course), where was I staying, WHO was I going to meet there (I kept my mouth shut). This went on and on for about half an hour, finally I was allowed to go but only after having a mordita of $20 for EACH of the assholes there extracted to keep me from having to go talk to the judge. This was a good percentage of the cash I had on my person. Fuck!

After escaping from this unpleasant situation without a trip to the jail I decided that this was not the way to start a vacation and I just turned around and headed back across the border. I just got a room in EP, rented a car and decided to just check out some of the local attractions there. I did visit the Space Museum and White Sands in Alamogordo but I decided that I did not need to press my luck and venture another trip south of the border. I seriously doubt that I will ever set foot in Mexico again. At least that is the way I feel right now.

It's not like I have not been shaken down by crooked cops before, but each time I about halfway felt like I deserved it, being someplace I "shouldn't" have been or doing something I "shouldn't" have been doing. But this time I was walking down the street with an overnight bag over my shoulder in broad daylight on Saturday afternoon. Nowhere near the Zona, heading away from downtown. And don't anyone start apologizing for these pricks, no matter how poorly paid someone is there is simply no excuse for police robbery of tourists. It just ain't right and there is no excuse for it. Like I said, it would have been great to meet up with you guys but I ain't planning no more trips to Mexico for a LONG time.

No apologies for them. I love everything about Juarez except for the asshole cops.

But your experience was most unusual.

I would not think it would happen again, so don't miss out on all these hot chicas because of that one experience...:) The Space Museum is a poor substitute for the fun you had in mind here.

Adam Z
11-15-04, 18:59
"Como hace mucho o mas bien nadie dice nada de los masajes ahi les va un review"

More or less good, but since no one says anything about the massages, here is a review.

"Loyred esta a espaldas de hipermart sn lorenzo en el segundo piso de unos locales comerciales. Por lo general las chavas de ah estan llenitas pero hacen unos jales cabrones."

Loryed is behind the Hypermart on San Lorenzo on the second floor of a small commercial area. Generally speaking, the girls there are chubby but they give some great fucks.

"Es una chava guerita llenita de hojos verdes."

She's a blonde with green eyes.

"Te hace unas mamadas de garganta profunda y te deja que te vengas en la garganta ademas dee eso si le pides que te lamba el anillo te lo hace con gusto , de los guevos se pasa al anillo y asi , no te da prisa. Esta llenita pero despues de la mamadota te lo deja todo flacido. Vale la pena si se te antoja una mamada agresiva"

She gives deep throat head and lets you cum down her throat. Also, if you ask her to lick your asshole she will do it with gusto. She'll lick from your balls to your anus and won't hurry you. She's chubby but after the bj she will leave you completely limp. She's worth it if you want an aggressive bj

Whoratio
11-15-04, 22:55
Pardon me if I sound sharp at any point in this post Whoratio.

When you crossed the border, how did you wind up on Fco. Villareal? I crossed the SF bridge and took a left a block or two south of the bridge. My intention was to get a hotel room before heading downtown to meet up with you guys. It was on Fco. Villa that our friends caught up to me and ruined my trip. Let me reiterate, it was the middle of the afternoon, say 3:00 pm or so and I was obviously heading away from the Zona. Maybe TOO obviously, and that is what aroused their suspicion. Perhaps I should have walked up to them and asked if they knew where I could get some wet, hot pussy.

I am in the process of filing a complaint with the US State Department, for all the good it will do. But if enough complaints are filed for the US State Department to issue travel advisories against venturing into Mexico because of the "Gang in Blue" robbing tourists left and right, maybe something will eventually get done.

My Freedom
11-16-04, 21:21
I fully understand your total frustration, Whoratio, over what happened on Fco. Villa Street. You were definitely at the wrong place at the wrong time and what happened was unusual.

I have walked down Fco. Villa several times and never been bothered. I feel the most likely area to get stopped by la policia is around the coliseum area.

That being said, I would avoid carrying any overnight bag over your shoulder. For crummy cops, that's an invitation. Also, did you say you had two boxes of condems? That is enough for them to cook up something. I always carry only one condem in a tea shirt that isn't viewed.

Finally, I have NO IDEA if this is true or not, but a SW I have known for years tells me to NOT be afraid of seeing the judge. She says the judge AND the "doctor" at the police station understand English and if you can prove you are and/or were sober and not on drugs, not drinking, not carrying a weapon, etc., the judge will set you free. She says these bad cops do this to bluff us and it's OK to call their bluff. Meaning, don't bribe them.

Again, I do NOT know if what she tells me is true or not, but I have known her for years and she's always been very fair in every way with me. But we all need to face it that when in Mexico you are basically a person without a country. You look for chicas at your own risk and not all people and cops in Mexico are honest. They aren't in the U.S., either.
My Freedom

BorderJumper
11-18-04, 23:01
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I am in the process of filing a complaint with the US State Department, for all the good it will do. But if enough complaints are filed for the US State Department to issue travel advisories against venturing into Mexico because of the "Gang in Blue" robbing tourists left and right, maybe something will eventually get done.

Right idea, wrong venue Whoratio! Right after the event, you should hav taken your happy ass to the Police Station and filed a complaint with them. They would have called the officers in off the street right there and permitted you to make your accusations to their faces. They would have also searched the officers involved for any U.S. cash. Believe it or not, the authorities do take allegations of corruption seriously down here. The cops on the beat though use intimidation and fear to get to you.

Mug, DE, help me out here. Where is that place in Cd. Juarez where these complaints are taken?

Mugroso
11-19-04, 00:13
i think the place to report that is on or near calle oro and 16 sept. i have never been. i need to find out an include it on the website.

i have been through many shake downs with no money changing hands. but i have 3 incidents that come to mind. the first time i was stopped for speeding in a school zone. i honestly didn't see it but it was there and i was in the wrong. cost, 20usd. second time i stopped at the stop sign at mariscal and ignacio mejia. the traffic lady said i did not stop good. she was hesitant to write me a ticket but i insisted. she did not directly ask for a bribe but said how much of an inconvinience it would be for me to get a ticket. i paid the ticket the next day. cost, 13usd.

the 3rd time still burns my ass. not far from the panama club i was stopped by a camper and 2 shrimps hopped off and the camper drove away. i got the usual shake down as usual but when they left i checked my wallet and was short 20usd. that was out right theft. no scare tactics, threats, nothing.

whoratio, that is really too bad what happened. i did not realize this was in the day. i hope you get over this bad incident and come for a visit soon.

mugroso

Bbond
11-19-04, 05:49
Calle Oro and 16th de Sept. is the corect location. And, yes they take allegations seriously. I can testify to that first hand. Really helps if you go with a local, someone you trust to help translate, even if you speak decent Spanish. I would definately not go there alone and 1/2 drunk, might be more trouble than it's worth.

Sun Devil
11-20-04, 22:31
I have NO IDEA if this is true or not, but a SW I have known for years tells me to NOT be afraid of seeing the judge. She says the judge AND the "doctor" at the police station understand English and if you can prove you are and/or were sober and not on drugs, not drinking, not carrying a weapon, etc., the judge will set you free.

The girl is telling the truth. As long as you are not inebriated or full of chemicals, you have a good chance of getting free. This is from a personal experience.

Mugroso
11-20-04, 23:45
And if I did drink, I would excercise tempreance in Mexico.

This weekend is my weekend and it started on Thursday. I was going to post about each night when I got home, but I thought I would just go ahead and make a detailed report when my festivities were completed, hopefully that won't be until Sunday evening.

So far I have had 2 good experiences but unfortunatly only one photo shoot for the site. Bummer.

Short Marisela was at Queens last night, She is a dead lay but would make for some great pics.

Till Sunday
Mugroso

Dougie
11-21-04, 21:38
i am in the process of filing a complaint with the us state department.....

old news, save your time, see http://travel.state.gov/travel/mexico.html . i think you can safely click on this site without having a bunch of adware installed on your computer. :-d. the whole article is worth a read, but here are the parts pertainent to the matter at hand:

"in some instances, americans have become victims of harassment, mistreatment and extortion by mexican law enforcement and other officials. mexican authorities are concerned about these incidents and have cooperated in investigating such cases. however, one must have the officer's name, badge number, and patrol car number to pursue a complaint effectively. please note this information if you are ever involved with police or other officials. in addition, tourists should be wary of persons representing themselves as police officers or other officials. when in doubt, ask for identification."

i think the part about the authorities being "concerned" is horseshit, they're the ones doing the extortin'. also, more specifically to us hobbyists:

"crime in border cities: visitors to border cities such as tijuana, ciudad juarez, nuevo laredo, nogales, and to a lesser extent reynosa and matamoros, should remain alert and be aware of their surroundings at all times. visitors are very vulnerable when visiting the local "red light districts," particularly if they are departing alone in the early hours of the morning. in ciudad juarez, there has also been a rise in automobile accidents in which municipal police extort money from u.s. citizen victims. in reynosa, police have stopped u.s. citizens for questionable reasons and then forced them to withdraw money from atm machines to pay ďfines.Ē "

and just to drive home the point that the mexican polica ain't exactly a bunch of little angels:

"mexican police regularly obtain information through torture, prosecutors use this evidence in courts, and the courts continue to admit as evidence confessions extracted under torture. the authorities rarely punish officials for torture, which continues to occur in large part because confessions are the primary evidence in many criminal convictions. in recent cases u.s. citizens have been brutalized, beaten, and even raped while in police custody. since the beginning of 2002, 15 american citizens have died in mexican prisons: eight of natural causes and two of drug overdoses, while two were suicides and three apparent homicides."

"the mexican government is required by international law to notify the u.s. embassy or the nearest u.s. consulate promptly when an american citizen is arrested, if the arrestee so requests. in practice, however, this notification can be delayed by months or may never occur at all, limiting the assistance the u.s. government can provide. americans should promptly identify themselves as such to the arresting officers, and should request that the embassy or nearest consulate be notified immediately."

so i would think twice about calling their bluff and letting them take you to the carcel. you might just find yourself in a scene from "marathon man", and being south of the border you would not be "safe". (you would have to see the movie). probably better to just pay the mordita than take your chances at 16 de sept and calle oro. just remember, the police ain't your friends, on either side of the border, they are just able to get away with less of their shennanigins on the north side of the rio grande.

one last "juicy" tidbit, pun intended:

"the mexican government has announced an aggressive program to discourage sexual tourism and to punish severely those who engage in sexual activity with minors. soliciting the services of a minor for sexual purposes is illegal in mexico, and is punishable by imprisonment."

"under the protect act of april 2003, it is a crime, prosecutable in the united states, for a u.s. citizen or permanent resident alien, to engage in illicit sexual conduct in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18, whether or not the u.s. citizen or lawful permanent resident alien intended to engage in such illicit sexual conduct prior to going abroad. for purposes of the protect act, illicit sexual conduct includes any commercial sex act in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18. the law defines a commercial sex act as any sex act, on account of which anything of value is given to or received by a person under the age of 18."

more of uncle sam's feel-good legislation, unenforcable of course. but still a good idea to keep your pecker out of **** females, on either side of the border.

Dougie
11-21-04, 22:15
I never did report on my final day of extended paloozaing. I finally made it over to Marilyns, and I am glad I did. They have a muchacha there named Jovanna who you simply must stop by and visit. She does not look like your typical Mexican girl, more of an Italian model look to her. Really great bone structure in the face, late 20's, maybe early 30's, she would have been a REAL knockout just a few short years ago. Perfect set of real chi-chis, even if her ass and legs are a bit on the skinny side for my tastes. Great service too. $300MN, no upselling. I decided not to tempt fate and to end the mongering activities on a high note although I admit I had a hard time staying away from having just one more dip with Joanna at Cleopatras, with her incredible J-Lo ass and legs. I hope that place isn't closed and that she is still there my next trip. So I just washed clothes, ate dinner and hit the sack early in anticipation of doing the Boy Scout thing to the airport in EP early the next day for an uneventful trip home.

Here are a few more interesting tidbits:

I never got through customs quicker, after spending a week in Mexico I greeted the hispanic-looking customs guy with "Buenos Dias". He just looked at my gringo ass and asked me my citizenship. I reached for my US passport and he just waved me through without even looking at it.

The fabled "Girls of de la Paz" are still there, some of them even looked pretty good. Info for a monger on a really tight budget. Just remember the area around the old Mercado is now a clusterfuck since the Mercado burned down. And there were lots of cops back there but none of them fucked with me. Wonder why? I must have looked poor or something.

Mariscos de Mazatlan has a two for one or half off your entree on Tuedays. This is an incredible deal on some of the best gourmet seafood you will ever eat anywhere. $6 USD for Camaron al Ajo and a Coke cannot be beat.

El Toro Bronco on Av. de las Americas a couple of blocks south of Hnos. Escobar is now my hands down favorite steak house in Juarez. I hate to say it, but they beat El Herradero easily, even if they are more expensive. You simply must try, go for the t-bone.

Speaking of El Toro Bronco, the Motorcycle Policia are using one of the storefronts in the shopping center next to the steakhouse as a sort of mini-substation. This means there is LOTS of motorcycle cop activity up and down Av. de las Americas, Hnos. Escobar and Av. Lincoln. You guys with cars you drive across the border be careful.

It only took about a week for my tender little gringo digestive tract to return to normal after this trip, last fall it was fucked up for almost a month. I don't know what it is or where it comes from but I seem to pick up some bug every time I spend time eating in the local restaurants in Mexico.

Cienega, I still have not done the chicken soup thing, been too busy.

I'm sure I made some more observations and they have just slipped my mind for the time being. I will drop them in as the come to me.

Dougie
11-21-04, 22:26
I chose Alex cuz she looked more like a freak.....

Hey, I wondered how Alex would have been. I chose a girl who looked more East Indian than Mexican, forgot her name. I've had better I must admit, I might have been better served by Alex. I must admit that at first glance Alex looked like she could have easily been a TS or a TV, that is why I took the other girl. Although Alex did have a real exotic look to her. I guess from your report all the plumbing was correct?? Although the doctors are mighty good at doing the old switcheroo these days. :-D

One bit of info for you mongers on foot or even driving. As you hoof it east on 16 de Sept you will pass, on the same side of the road as Masajes Luxxor a photographic studio also named Luxor, with one "x". Don't confuse the two, that could be embarassing. Masajes Luxxor is almost directly across the street from a big Santander Serfin bank, not hard to find. The place used to be a "legit" spa of some sort or another as I recall.

RearWindow
11-21-04, 23:29
One bit of info for you mongers on foot or even driving. As you hoof it east on 16 de Sept you will pass, on the same side of the road as Masajes Luxxor a photographic studio also named Luxor, with one "x". Don't confuse the two, that could be embarassing. Masajes Luxxor is almost directly across the street from a big Santander Serfin bank, not hard to find. The place used to be a "legit" spa of some sort or another as I recall. I almost made that mistake a bit back.

"El Toro Bronco on Av. de las Americas a couple of blocks south of Hnos. Escobar is now my hands down favorite steak house in Juarez. I hate to say it, but they beat El Herradero easily, even if they are more expensive"

NOWAY!! I will stand by EH till my dying day as the best in Juarez!:-)

Mugroso
11-22-04, 04:17
I had an evil streak in me starting midweek last week so Thursday I headed to Cleopatra Masajes. I saw Johanna as mentioned by Dougie. Hot chica. Even though she answered the door she said she was busy but Ivonne was available. Iím sure she was as she was hiding in the hallway in a towel. Guys, never say no to a chica in a towel.
I recall seeing her name in an ad in the Diario so I didnít expect much of a massage but I went for it anyway. It was actually decent. She had talented hands and put the pressure on as I like it that way. She started the second portion of the massage with a hand job so good, I thought she was giving me head. Cost, 350 pesos which is about 30USD.

Friday was bar hopping night. Went to Las Palmeras and saw Isela. As usual I said hi, which is becoming a mistake lately. She is really irritating these days. I left as quickly as I could and went to check out the other bars. Viviana was busy at Centro Lagunero and I didnít feel like waiting. She was my target lady for the evening. I went by the AŮo Nuevo to say hi to Minnie. She was as cut as ever. You guys have got to give her a spin sometime soon. Marisela is back at Queens Place. Dead lay but hot to look at.
I made my way back to Centro Lagunero and damn it, Viviana was still busy. Gypsy, a real ranchera type chica started to hit me up. I resisted at first but she convinced me. We went upstairs and got down to business. I am a lazy lover. I just laid there. She gave a good BBBJ and wrapped my up and rode to town. Oh yeah, I got some pics and will post soon. Cost, 300 pesos or 26USD.

Saturday night hooked up with BorderJumper and we headed down to the Zona. Started the night again at Las Palmeras and again Isela was a pain in the ass. After pestering me for a drink she tries to pressure me into getting BJ to buy her a drink. She thinks that if someone is with me, I am to get them to spend money.
We worked out way up to Rancho Grande where we stayed a while. I wasnít too impressed. We met a chica who was celebrating her birthday like I was. She isnít hot but I did like her attitude. She gave us each a bag of candy. Yummy. We saw Marilu at Virginias. Hot, hot, hot. She was wearing a black latex dress and looked like a real dominatrix. She is so damn sexy like that and stockings too boot. We hit a few other bars and wound up back at the Rancho Grande where things really got out of hand. Confetti was tossed and birthday girl broke out the cake and I took some pics of the cake cutting. They girls started smearing icing on any and everything. Great pics.

The bars are staying open till 3am for the holidays so keep this in mind for your next trip to the lovely city of Juarez. This will continue until January 7th. We left just short of 3am and walked back across the border. Iím surprised they let us back in the USA covered in confetti and icing.

Sunday I headed to Marilynís and got there at about 1:30pm. I have heard about Alondra and had to try her out for myself. Very dainty massage but she took her time. Sucked on her titties a while. Damn it, why didnít anyone tell me she was lactating?

Excellent weekend, I got laid 3 out of the last 4 days. I look forward to the next one and if anyone ever has a chance to party with BorderJumper, consider it a privilege.

Mugroso

Clydesdale
11-22-04, 05:08
I never did report on my final day of extended paloozaing. I finally made it over to Marilyns, and I am glad I did. They have a muchacha there named Jovanna who you simply must stop by and visit. She does not look like your typical Mexican girl, more of an Italian model look to her. Really great bone structure in the face, late 20's, maybe early 30's, .



Jovanna's back? That is good news indeed! She wasn't there the last few time I was there. Someone said she had left.

Kimbrough
11-24-04, 05:29
Hi guys,

I plan to go to Juarez this Thursday and stay overnight at Villa Mansport. My question for my fellow mongers is, will my car be safe at Villa Mansport? Do they have someone watching the cars? Thanks, if any one is in Juarez on Thurs. the 25th and Fri. the 26. lets meet for drinks.

Kim

Adam Z
11-24-04, 21:35
If you are looking for a little trophy-girl notch in your belt, try Claudia at Luxxor. She's not that into it, but she is VERY fine (looks a little like the fashion model Aurelie Claudel, google her name for pics). If you're looking for the GFE, she's not your girl, but she is very very pretty. She did the cold fish thing until I flipped her over doggy-style. Great for thirty bucks, I haven't seen a girl as good looking as she is in the masajes in a long long time, maybe since Nohemi at Marilyns. 10 on looks, 7 on massage, 6 on performance.

If you're into the GFE, try a girl at Pink Lady named Sandra. Fake blonde, decent body and really kind of pretty. About a 7 on looks, but a 10 in the back room. No rushing, no complaining, and totally got into it. Deep french kissing allowed and total enjoyment.

Also saw two hotties at Las Vegas, but was short on cash by then.

Scoup
11-26-04, 21:56
Had some time before the hoilday started so I want to JZ. Went bar hopping and hit Virginas and Queens. I saw Marilu and she was looking somewhat thugish. I almost did not notice her. She moved from Queens and Virginas with this other girl behind her. Just wanted to know if she goes both ways?

Had some fun time with Kathy and of course Melissa.

Clydesdale
11-27-04, 10:11
Hi guys,

I plan to go to Juarez this Thursday and stay overnight at Villa Mansport. My question for my fellow mongers is, will my car be safe at Villa Mansport? Do they have someone watching the cars? Thanks, if any one is in Juarez on Thurs. the 25th and Fri. the 26. lets meet for drinks.

Kim
It must have taken a couple days for your post to get on the board. I would have met you for drinks Friday, but didn't see your post 'til just now.
There weren't as many people as normal Friday, but it wasn't dead. Queens had its fair share of hotties. If you like slim chicks, there's a blonde there called Brandy. We went to the room a couple of months ago, and I never saw her again until tonight. Only a 6 for performance, but oh what a body!
I'm happy to report that Minnie is as good as Mugroso says.

Mugroso
11-27-04, 13:57
I'm happy to report that Minnie is as good as Mugroso says.

That Minnie is a real "sucker" for balls isn't she. Last time I had her she was in another state and kept saying weird things like stop the car, be nice, and other weird things unrelated to what we were doing. But that just added to the fun.

Mug

BorderJumper
11-27-04, 14:29
Alll the years I've stayed at the Villa Manport, and parking in the front, I've never had any problems with my vehicles there or anywhere in Cd. Juarez or Nuevo Laredo

Dougie
11-27-04, 21:39
Alll the years I've stayed at the Villa Manport, and parking in the front, I've never had any problems with my vehicles there or anywhere in Cd. Juarez or Nuevo Laredo

A little late to do you any good, but one monger reportedly had his truck stolen from in front of the Villa Manport. It's practically on the street, they would have to have someone watching it full time to prevent all thefts. They have security but they are not all seeing and all knowing. And car thieves are, out of necessity, pretty quick practicioners of their vocation.

But, the "Cabanas" the Villa Manport maintains do have secured parking. They are right across Hnos. Escobar from the VM on Panama behind Sirenas. The rooms are more "motel like" in that there is no lobby you have to go through to get to the rooms, so IMHO the rooms are less secure. I would guess they would not have a problem with you parking at the Cabanas and staying at the hotel. Just ask.

Adam Z
11-27-04, 22:11
Hey guys, I was in the Zona on Wednesday night and everything was DEAD, but I did find a few gems.

There are about three girls at Las Vegas that I thought were really hot. I had drinks with one named Araceli. She was very nice, didn't try to hustle drinks etc. The only thing was when I asked if she would go to the cuarto with me, she said she was in her "dias". Bummer, because she has a hot little body on her. Still, at least I know that she'll go to the cuarto.

Hit the other bars but everything was quiet. Finally at Centro Lagunero I met a girl named Stefani. She's a little like a biker chick with tattoos which was something different for me but she has a great bod. Massive tits and a tiny waist. She wanted forty. Also, one thing to report, the rooms there are really nice. The nicest of any club I've been to. Mirrored ceilings and the whole nine yards, very comfortable.

Anyway, I recommend this girl if you're looking for a cheap but still good alternative.

Mugroso
11-28-04, 02:00
I prefer those intimate drive inn motels. I feel safe with my little truck just a few feet away from me. Like Dougie says, "car thieves are, out of necessity, pretty quick practicioners of their vocation". But the trouble is, when the room next door opens their garage door, i always freak thinking its my door.

My old standards are the Le Baron and Casa Blanca. But lately I have been going to this place on Ave, De La Raza, starts with a B. And there is one on Ave Triunfo called Avanti. The B place is real nice and so is Avanti but their floors are bare, no carpet.

When Veronica came down in September, we stayed at the Holiday Inn Express, 70 bucks and up.

Mugroso

Mugroso
11-28-04, 08:35
Had some time before the hoilday started so I want to JZ. Went bar hopping and hit Virginas and Queens. I saw Marilu and she was looking somewhat thugish. I almost did not notice her. She moved from Queens and Virginas with this other girl behind her. Just wanted to know if she goes both ways?

Had some fun time with Kathy and of course Melissa.

I spoke with Marilu once about other chicas and she was very much against it. Even to have another in the room didn't appeal to her. I have heard that those who fear or hate homosexuals tend to have their own tendencies. I don't know, I'm not a psychologist.

To just imagine MariLu eating pussy as good as she sucks cock, makes my balls quiver in delight.

Here is my fantasy match up. MariLu and Yessenia.

RearWindow
11-28-04, 22:56
I spoke with Marilu once about other chicas and she was very much against it. Even to have another in the room didn't appeal to her. I have heard that those who fear or hate homosexuals tend to have their own tendencies. I don't know, I'm not a psychologist.

To just imagine MariLu eating pussy as good as she sucks cock, makes my balls quiver in delight.

Here is my fantasy match up. MariLu and Yessenia.My friend and I have tried repeatedly to get MariLu in a foursome,or a ffm, and she will not do it. Que una lastima.BTW, has anyone been with Suki lately? Last I saw her was at Casa Colorado in April. She is , IMHO, one hot ****.

Sun Devil
11-29-04, 01:05
Suki, or Magdalena (her real name), formerly of Phoenix AZ, had transfered her skills at Queens. She told me that she could make more money at Queens with less amount of work than at Casa Colorada. That was a couple of months ago. I don't know if she is still there.

Cienega32
11-29-04, 01:39
i just returned from a 11 day stay by the border. had a decent time but was there for other things (some house hunting). this is just some short observations on it all.

first off edgar at the farmacia doesn't have the big blue specials that i was "advertizing" anymore and his 100mg is at 12us. it was 9 & change with the free 50mg strapped to the box but no more.

the sports book, i was happy to find as it weighs heavily in my relocation decision, pulls their numbers from vegas. the parlay cards have a low end payout w/ a 6 teamer (for example) paying 40 to 1. 52 to 1 here at home for me. federal tax is taken out at the time of payout on your bets. a $55 1 team bet would return $105 here in vegas. same in juarez but after "tax" it's 103.99. interesting. hope the us doesn't figure that one out.

mugroso - you couldn't be more right about las palmeros and my friend isella. that place is getting scary to keep your eyes open in. and she has become a royal pain in the ass. i still have fun clowning & bullshitting with her and i'll still take willie out for her to play with (warm ups) at the bar now & then but i'll either have "something to do" & have to leave or it'll be at the end of the nite. i really had no desire to spend much time there. i walk in the door and they immediately let her know. hell, one time a chica went upstairs to wake her up! horseshit. her daughter doesn't bother me at all for anything. just some conversation - no pressure - and she's starting to look a bit hagarded anyway. they do have a tall & lean dance chica there (chastity) who seems to get wild at times. deep throating a beer bottle and peeking it up her snatch while at the bar. but overall - getting scary. like i told manny after noticing the chica drinks went up to 55mx. prices go up and the girls get wider. after watching two of them "dancing" at the same time i wonder about the structural integrity of the stage. glad they were out of step. the resonating frequency might've leveled the joint.

on another day i grabbed a room at the plaza on ugarte (i think it is) for 170mx to have a rest spot if needed. 1st stop was laura's at about 6:30. 1 little chica outside followed me in. mary was her name and couldn't been 95 lbs soaking wet. claimed to be 23 with 3 kids. looked 17. tiny little titties with big round nips. fairly cute in a "kid" sort of way. went for 40us and no rush. i just love having a little cutie like that licking my nutsack & bare shaft with a big smile on her face. anyway - that was a satisfyingly tight & warm fuck. wouldn't mind that again. perhaps with one of her friends. went back friday and it was dead again. there was an older girl - 30ish perhaps with a guy at the end of the bar. nicely built and that "sophisticated" hispanic woman look to her. attractive woman.

wandered over to virgina's and the smell of the grill outside made me go in for a beer, a break, and a wait for the food. watched one girl who reminded me of marilou. i only saw her once or twice at queen's a year or so back so i wasn't sure and only remembered people here wondering where she went. saw a few guys upstairs and figured i shoot some stick and rest from mary at laura's. met the dj kid cristian & we shot a few games of pool. while lining up my 8ball in the corner suddenly this blue sequenced g-string covered pus_sy sits itself on top of the pocket. i look up and sure as shit - marilou. what an active & wet tongue she has. we just played around with the touchy, squeezy, feely, kissy-licky crap while she soaked me for a few drinks. she is a wild one. and what a nicely shaped tummy she has. just how i like it. 7 kids? good lord. btw - the dj kid said 9. that's a job i would've loved to have at 17. spin some tunes, have some drinks, watch all that puss dancing, shoot pool all nite and, as he claims, tag some here and there. viva la mexico!

hit cleopatra's somewhere in the week hoping that big-tittied claudia was there. i love having a tittie in my mouth and my shaft in hers. not there so ended with joanna as has been advertised here. after her rub & hand play she climbed up on her hands and knees. i told her no - she can climb on from there. i just stayed on my back - sometimes active, sometimes not - and let her ride my viagra plugged shaft until she could take no more. after she laid on top resting her sweat-soaked body for a bit she started again. and again. the v holds me off so i just let her ride the pony anyway she wanted with a smile on my face. i got my hour's worth. so did she. i think she would be a blast on a full size play area.

took my load with me and stared to wander over towards the laura's area hoping for a mary repeat. by the gym some broad with a song promised me a "real good time". some skank named patricia. americana (where's my logic?). she looked better in the dark of the corner. at the room i was ready to walk out - even apologizing on the way - she was that bad. "unless you want to just blow me...". "sure!". no condom and took it all. every drop. not a bad job at all. she's done it before - i could tell. cheap & skanky but a good thorough, long, slow & deep suck. she seemed to like being made to gag on a throatful. i should've waited but by the time i hit that corner i had to drop a nut quick. yes - i am ashamed of myself for my lack of patience.

somewhere down the line i remembered something about a midget. i figured for shits & giggles why not but i couldn't find her.

not too much other stuff that's worth mentioning. most of the time was spent drinking beer, eating, spending mx money - trying to learn it, hitting the sports book, etc. feeling it, as they say. only went every other day or so as my plans were made around the house-hunt thing. that held me over 3 or 4 days more than planned. ran into my old food server chica from a while back. we spent a little time wandering in the cathedral area where the fire was and just talking and enjoying the latter part of the afternoon. tried to hook up twice but i couldn't work it out with my other things - one of which were zona plans. the other time i was 3 hours late from dealing with a realtor. shame. she's a sweetie. next time for sure. she was a nice one in a todo la noche way.

went to kentucky club for the first time during the week. had a few beers and some chow. not bad. i like that joint. it's just a normal bar with great service. went back last friday and it was a madhouse. shoulder to shoulder with normal people.

also on friday i dropped into las palmeros for a coke and a quick adios. some dude was on stage bare-ass naked doing a bump & grind from behind with a chica.

anyway - hope you all had a good thanksgiving. i might be back out there in a couple of weeks on a house hunt possibly with a laptop (need to buy one). if so, i'll be sure to drop a line here to try and meet some fellow mongers.

and no - i'm not a bald guy...

Mugroso
11-29-04, 04:26
And no - I'm not a bald guy...

Well I am glad to hear that.

As for Laura's, I haven't been there in years. It has more to do with a dislike for Chato. I used to go to the old Laura's when it was located in front of The Cave. The low life would hit me up for quarters to play pool. Imagine that, a bar owner begging for quarters to play his own pool table. I see this guy as the old fashioned pimp. Its funny, the 2 guys I don't like in all of Mexico work on the same block.

You should have gone for MariLu. I am off my MariLu kick, I still recommend her to any one that wants to get the nastys out. You were correct about the old blonde at Virginias. There are 2 old ladies there. There used to be a 3rd. She was an all around round lady. But it has been quite a while since I've seen her.

Anyways, drop us locals a line before your next visit.
Mugroso

RearWindow
11-29-04, 05:15
Suki, or Magdalena (her real name), formerly of Phoenix AZ, has transfered her skills at Queens. She told me that she could make more money at Queens with less amount of work than at Casa Colorada. That was a couple of months ago. I don't know if she is still there.She was nice, she originally left Queens ( in April) with my Ex-Number Two to go to CC.What goes around...and I'm still mourning the loss of wild hair Letty.

Pecker Will
11-29-04, 09:59
Was strolling down near Laura's one late afternoon and happened to see a chick - brown hair (not black), 30ish, not slim, but not gorda - but most of all, had big brown very sensitive eyes. She was conversing with amiga and I stopped nearby pretending to take a rock out of my shoe. I was not looking for any action right then but I could kick myself for not speaking up a little. Anyway, I think her name was Andie or Andrea - don't know for sure. Any help here? Long shot, but those eyes went right through me.

One more - about 6 mos. ago, I was in Casa Colorado. Took a lady to the room and her name was Letty or Leticia. She was 30ish, on the slim side and had a beautiful patch of black hair right smack on her pussy. Anyway, went back about 3 wks ago and ask for Letty. No one there knew her. I know they come and go - but she was a mature type, no druggie, and was amiable with conversation prior to the room. She was conservative using her tongue, but I enjoyed her. Any help here???

PW

Bbond
11-29-04, 10:21
..snip......
As for Laura's, I haven't been there in years. It has more to do with a dislike for Chato. I used to go to the old Laura's when it was located in front of The Cave. The low life would hit me up for quarters to play pool. Imagine that, a bar owner begging for quarters to play his own pool table. .........snip.....
Mugroso

That's bad.
I have played pool with Chito, and girls there many times and never had that problem.
Once I had no quarters, the house had no quarters, so the girl sticks her cue stick in beside the side pocket, the balls come rolling out. Free pool when they want it.

Cienega32
11-29-04, 11:30
You should have gone for MariLu. I am off my MariLu kick, I still recommend her to any one that wants to get the nastys out. You were correct about the old blonde at Virginias. There are 2 old ladies there. There used to be a 3rd. She was an all around round lady. But it has been quite a while since I've seen her.

Anyways, drop us locals a line before your next visit.
Mugroso

I get a kick out of the older, little woman. Cost a buck to listen - cost a buck not too. Otherwise the guilt sneaks in. She's a harmless, nice little old broad so why not.

By the time MariLu plopped it on the corner pocket I was already filled with food & beer and wasn't really into anything other than how it played out. Little time lapse in the tale. I had gone back last Friday but didn't see her so just hung loose at the bar bullshitting with Gloria I think her name is. Older bartender. The curly redheaded chick that sits door at times was cool as well. The first nite when I ate off the grill they had potatoes and I was looking for butter. "I know what you want". "Do you, now..." I slyly replied. 5 minutes later she reappears with whole stick of butter. I've gotten a whole new & better impression of the joint since my last trip there.

Zuzax
11-30-04, 03:08
One more - about 6 mos. ago, I was in Casa Colorado. Took a lady to the room and her name was Letty or Leticia. She was 30ish, on the slim side and had a beautiful patch of black hair right smack on her pussy. Anyway, went back about 3 wks ago and ask for Letty. No one there knew her. I know they come and go - but she was a mature type, no druggie, and was amiable with conversation prior to the room. She was conservative using her tongue, but I enjoyed her. Any help here???

PWI don't know who you talked to, but they were definitely bullshitting you. Lety lives down in Chihuahua and takes the bus up to Juarez when she needs money. She was at the Casa Colorado back in mid-September and said she would be back there again in October. My last visit there was about mid-October but she wasn't there. It's just a hit or miss situation trying to figure out when she works.

She'll probably be there sometime in December getting money for the upcoming holiday, but she usually heads back about a week before Christmas.

I'm planning on going to the Casa Colorado either this Saturday or the next and will give you an update.

Zuzax

ChuCho Dan
11-30-04, 05:22
Cienega,

I know exactly what you mean about feeling obligated to help out that little old broad at Virginias. I must confess I even kind of enjoy talking to her about how much the zona has changed through the years. In a earlier post you mentioned that you discovered the Juarez Sports Book. Betting on sports and the ponies is my other guilty pleasure in life. Luckily about 6 months ago the Caliente Sports Book entered the market offering a far superior product. IMHO the Juarez Sports Book is simply one of the worse run sportsbook operations in the world and its not just because they are always taking games off the board and off the parlay cards but they also wont hesitate to cut you off if you get on a roll playing the ponies and get up near $1000 they will beligerently tell you thats all. I was in there the other day and they had the parlay cards behind the counter and a regular customer asked them politely to put out the parlay cards and Yvonne the manager told the guy "ah shut up asshole". I just thought I'd warn you in advance about that mickey mouse operation. Fortunately you'll be able to give Caliente a try they are just next to the S-mart at Plaza de las Americas across from the Pronaf. In addition to Caliente there is another outfit called Uno that is scheduled to open up in a few weeks downtown in the former Planet Rock disco right next to the bridge.

Adam Z
12-01-04, 07:45
heard you guys mention the place. I had it confused with El Horizonte and was wondering where it is. Thanks in advance.

A.D.

P.S. had a girl named Carolina at Loryeds, not bad for 25. Pretty much let me do anything that I wanted short of anal, which is pretty bad ass for the price. She always wears her hair in pigtails to look younger than she is, but she's pushing 30 and is cute despite a few extra pounds. Still a nice provider.

Also stopped into Masajes Michelle tonight, they have the 2 girls for 50 and the selection was OK, but I couldn't stay.

Mugroso
12-02-04, 07:06
Went down Saturday night and gave M&M a try. I didn't like it. Heres why. The waiter takes my order and comes back with my soda and charges me 3 bucks. I smelled a big fat hairy rat so I keep my eye on. He slips his right hand down to his pocket and hands the money to the cashier with his left. He chingered me. He helped himself to a dollar tip.

Here is another trick I have heard about that they play in TJ and I have seen on rare occasions in Juarez. You hand the waiter a 10 or a 20 and he walks off and turns around and says you gave him a dollar. I fell for this once bigtime.

As far as the chicas go, there were a couple of hotties exept for one old hag.

Adrian from the burrito stands tells me he is not allowed to sell there because they are not mentioned on my site. I am not sure how true this may be but if they do get much of a mention it won't be a good one, not until they clean up their act.


Mugroso

Mugroso
12-02-04, 07:13
It has been getting cold out there guys. One thing I hate is a cold room to get naked with a chica, especially a massage. I remember a while back some MPs had no heat or the used a space heater in the rooms but they would not turn it on until the room was in use.

My most recent experience was at Marilyns last winter. But this last time I was there it was warm, so no complaints. Also Cleopatras was nice and cozy.

Queens has got to have the coldest rooms ever. The best you can hope for is to get a room with a window to the interior of the club.

I'm just sensitive to the cold guys. I hate it. Anyone else have a cold experience?

I will be heading down Friday and will investigate further as to who is hot and who is not.

The Filthy (icy) One

Cienega32
12-02-04, 07:45
ChoCho Dan - Yeah - I kind of brushed her off in the beginning and went curbside for some chow. When I came back my inner-self pulled out a buck and stuffed it in her hand. She seems harmless and non-"offensive". SHe just likes to talk to someone it seems.

On most of my trips the book would be either closed or, for me, out of season (NFL) so I never checked it. I went in one day and looked. Last trip I intended to utilize the joint. I struck up a chat w/ someone and he told me the same thing about Caliente. Better parlay odds as well. But like I said we have a joint or two here in Vegas that tout some crap payouts as well. I did notice a lot of X'd games the last week I was there. Guess the weather must scare them. It'll never compete with the Stardust book but it'll do in a pinch. I was lucky enough to get the same writer every time there. He spoke English and had a good demeanor. The place is a bit of a shithole but it works. I'll have to try the other side of the tracks next time out.

I told a betting buddy of mine about how my Monday nite (NE at KC) went when he asked:

"Hmmm. I bet the game & the first half, went around the corner & got a massage, blowjob and watched some cute little Mexican chick ride me for almost an hour, went back watched some more of the game, bet the 2nd half, went around the other block got another blowjob, watched more football, ate some good food and then went back to the hotel with more cash than when I left - how was YOUR Monday nite?" His only answer was "Fu*k you..."

Guess he bet the wrong side. :p

Mugroso
12-03-04, 05:45
heard you guys mention the place. I had it confused with El Horizonte and was wondering where it is. Thanks in advance.

Las Palmeras is on the left hand side at the end of Mariscal St. this side of 16 de Septiembre. Warning, don't go past 16 September past sunset. Even this guy is scared to venture that far.

The Filthy (chicken) One

Sabroso27
12-04-04, 02:55
The Special 2 for $50 at Michelles is BS. One girl will give you CBJ then exit and another will then finish you off with FS. Not what they make it out to be. Selection there has been down in the dumps as of late also,

RearWindow
12-04-04, 07:39
It has been getting cold out there guys. One thing I hate is a cold room to get naked with a chica, especially a massage. I remember a while back some MPs had no heat or the used a space heater in the rooms but they would not turn it on until the room was in use.

My most recent experience was at Marilyns last winter. But this last time I was there it was warm, so no complaints. Also Cleopatras was nice and cozy.

Queens has got to have the coldest rooms ever. The best you can hope for is to get a room with a window to the interior of the club.

I'm just sensitive to the cold guys. I hate it. Anyone else have a cold experience?

I will be heading down Friday and will investigate further as to who is hot and who is not.

The Filthy (icy) OneBelying the places name, Panama was the coldest room I have ever been in ,short of that little flea bag hotel near the gym.So cold the girl (the lovely Becky) wouldn't take her freakin COAT off! which led to a not so happy scene later.I'll never go back there when it's below 60 degrees out.

RearWindow
12-05-04, 23:30
I read on Dallas Morning News and the Houston Chronicle that a chica was found murdered at Guatemala and Hermanos Escobar on Friday.Approx 22-27 yo. El Paso Times had nothing about it. Everytime I see these things, I worry about the girls I know there. Anyone have an update, or a repudiation of the story? The Pronaf has been getting really rough lately, and this is a very bad thing.

Bolongo
12-06-04, 00:15
I read on Dallas Morning News and the Houston Chronicle that a chica was found murdered at Guatemala and Hermanos Escobar on Friday.Approx 22-27 yo. El Paso Times had nothing about it. Everytime I see these things, I worry about the girls I know there. Anyone have an update, or a repudiation of the story? The Pronaf has been getting really rough lately, and this is a very bad thing.Yeah I saw it on the news the other day. I remember thinking if she was one that worked in the bars/ MP's or what. I didn't catch the full story though.

Mugroso
12-06-04, 14:07
Try this. Go to www.diario.com.mx Type in search (buscar) keyword, Casanova. It will be the articles dated the 5th, and 6th of December. The article has a photo. She worked in a bar called Casanova. I never heard of it, so likely it is just a neighborhood bar, but I could be wrong.




Yeah I saw it on the news the other day. I remember thinking if she was one that worked in the bars/ MP's or what. I didn't catch the full story though.

Cienega32
12-09-04, 02:24
I know that the holiday season is an "off" time for a lot of the regular chicas in town (from what I've read here).

Does this imply that the town is dead or do enough of them stay?

Is there an influx of "newbies" trying to capitalize on the openings?

Does the town become overrun with skankism?

When do the girls seem to get back to town?

I was going to get back sometime in the next couple of weeks but Vegas is having their 100 year celebration party and I don't want to miss it. After that for sure, but my curious questions are still there.

Mugroso
12-09-04, 03:52
I know that the holiday season is an "off" time for a lot of the regular chicas in town (from what I've read here).

Does this imply that the town is dead or do enough of them stay?

Is there an influx of "newbies" trying to capitalize on the openings?

Does the town become overrun with skankism?

When do the girls seem to get back to town?

I was going to get back sometime in the next couple of weeks but Vegas is having their 100 year celebration party and I don't want to miss it. After that for sure, but my curious questions are still there.

I wouldn't say Juarez dies for the holidays. But in years past I have seen chicas disappear and others appear to earn some holiday cash. The "newbies" or "temps" are not that bad. Some get addicted to the money and stay. I wouldn't necessarily call them skanks, you could look for some quality chica. The ones that do leave usually return from January 6 to Febuary. I am not sure what orthodox Christmas has to do with it but a friend of mine used that date as a benchmark. I his memory I use it.

Now this friend of mine who has since passed away had experience dating back to the 60s. He told me that back then, if a client complained about service, the girl would be beaten. I'm glad times have changed.

But back to the holidays. From what I observed last Friday the only thing missing were the crowds of customers. The evening was not bad. My latest addition, Angela, was very cute, personable, and a firecracker in bed. Great pics poser too. Oh yeah, and nipples like Flintstone vitamins, chewable.

The Filthy One

RearWindow
12-09-04, 04:02
I was in Juarez last year Dec 28-30, and it was tranquillo by all other comparisons. Could'nt find any of my favoritas, except the MP girls.The bar girls are pretty much gone, unless they have nowhere to go.The rest of the choices were ok, but not what/who I hoped for.My buddy went to TJ in October, and he was told that ALL the quality girls leave during the holiday season. Being late December thru early January. .Juarez is about the same ,irrc. Streetwalkers were more abundant then,however.

Desert Don
12-10-04, 05:29
Are the coupons still good at Marilyns? Where is best Pharmarcy for prescriptions in general?

Thanks

Clomonger
12-11-04, 01:18
Coupons are still good at Marilyn's. At least, they were as of a week ago. I went to a the second pharmacy on the right-hand side of the street after corssing the Santa Fe bridge and got 96 amoxicilina capsules for a bit over $10. Amoxicilin is a general-purpose antibiotic that's handy to have when you get an infection and don't want to bother with the "Dr.-prescription-pharmacy" route in the US. The guy spoke excellent English, helped me consolidate the pills from two bottles into one to enable easier concealment on the way back. I didn't price shop, however.

Cienega32
12-11-04, 11:08
Clomonger - that sounds like Edgar at National. If so, he's a real nice guy w/ a good understanding of pharmacuticals. I always stop and shoot the shit with him every time I go even if I don't shop. One time he had a few sales on with general pharms; 3 bottles=better price, etc. I ended up with about 20 or 25 bottles of various "household meds". I'm not sure but I think I may have given him the idea back then about consolidating the meds for the walk back. At the time I didn't know what was allowed at the border and I was stuffing them here and there in my touristo bags. 6 bottles was easier to "conceal" than 25.

Customs has no problem with us bringing back the basic antibiotics and things along that line. And they'll let you bring back what would appear to be a normal amount. I think it's a 90 day supply or a 1 year - can't remember. The controlled narcotics are a problem and that list changes from time to time. Somacid is a recent example. Great stuff that helped my lower back pain but a real popular abuse drug in America. Edgar had to pull them off the shelf by "request". But in general, they don't want you to set up shop in America with the stuff from Mexico. And some people do. We had a store or two in Vegas that got busted for selling MX drugs to the neighborhood. Normal stuff like Amoxicillan. Things that saved people doctor bills.

National (Edgar's joint) is a basic (Mexican) non-prescription store and, for the most part, anything you can buy there you can bring back. Of course in America where you need an HMO, referral to a specialist, and prescriptions for some overpriced crap to cure a hangnail - EVERYTHING is a prescription. There're some good reasons for that but with a little intelligent on-line research about the drugs you may need, one can be safe regarding interactions, reactions, etc.

When they ask what you're bringing back just state some basic antibiotics (if that's what they are) and they'll look to make sure. I'll tell them what each item is & I've never had them open a bottle. I'm always ready to explain that "I don't have health insurance and blah, blah, blah..." just in case but I think they're more concerned with Somacids and controlled items like that.

Zuzax
12-12-04, 16:16
I went to the Casa Colorado/Sans Souci Friday night and found the selection of girls to be disappointing. December has usually been a good month for a lot of the better looking girls to come out and work, but it looks like times have changed a little bit. It seems like all the not so thin girls that were working in October were the only ones working Friday night.

Business was also really slow. Even if someone came in, they'd drink one beer and then leave. I wonder if the quality of the girls had anything to do with that? Maybe someone should mention to Ricardo that he should try recruiting some different girls.

For PeckerWill. I talked with Lety and she said she'll be working until December 23rd and then return to work sometime in January.

Zuzax

Cienega32
12-12-04, 23:09
I've always enjoyed a Mexican dog and the 2AM side show at the top end of Ave Juarez before crossing back to the USA. Always a few rude & drunk loud mouth kids thinking they run the show being tossed into a "dog catcher truck" in front of one of the "college kid discos" by the Santa Fe bridge. Welcome to Mexico, gringo. Damn near became a riot one time I was coming back.

http://www.lcsun-news.com/artman/publish/article_11391.shtml

Is this late nite entertainment of mine going to be a thing of the past?

Mugroso
12-13-04, 00:28
Its been a long while since I went to Juarez with a boner and the intent on getting laid and not getting any.

In the afternoon I went to Venus Massage and had Alejandra, the cornrow chica. Hot chica but she is really hung up on herself and tries hard to upsell. That is a negative in my book. She said she loves to suck then fuck but for 20 bucks extra. I said no and just let her give me a hand job. The reason I opted for the handjob was if a chica really likes to suck and fuck she should do as she pleases. Experience has taught me how to deal with attitude. So I denied her the suck and fuck she loves. Guys, stick to your guns, not your nuts. This is part one of my Saturday.

Part 2. Met up with Clydesdale. Poor little Diana #2 was awaiting his arrival as was I. She wanted me to call him but I told her I would send him an email today and laughed. She wasn't working and Clydesdale was a little late and I was considering taking her myself. She told me she was going to walk a friend home and come back. So I headed to Queens and guess who walks up. Talk about being a day late and a dollar short. She was long gone and never came back.

We went for burritos at Adrians burrito stand. For those that don't know Adrians Burrito stand is on Mariscal street just around the corner from burrito row on Ignacio Mejia. Excellent as always. We hooked up there with Adrian's cousin and headed off for sport. Noche y Dia was unusually good, lots of hotties. I eyed one little cutie at the same time cousin nudged me and said she was cute. He pointed to the chica I was eyeing. Cousin is a nice guy and doesn't monger much so I stepped aside and called cutie over. Her name was Sandy and is as cute as can be. They really hit it off. Clydsdale and I excused ourselves and headed out to check for more action and left the 2 alone.

We cruised around and Clydesdale found his honey for the evening so I went off to fend for myself. By this time it was late. I went to Queens and thought I'd give Alexandra a spin. She wanted 80 but settled at 50 but started to give me this spew about the ticket to go upstairs and a bunch of other nonsense. So I left and looked for Marisela. Gone. It was even later now. I was walking around like a chicken with its head cut off looking for pussy. Guys, it just didn't happen for me last night.

Part 3 to the story will go down tonight. I still have a boner. Its Sunday so maybe I will get a deal.

The Filthy (horny) One


Rather than a new post, here is part 3 attached to the original.

I returned Sunday evening and walked the neighborhood. Pretty slow but hey, it was Sunday, I didn't expect much, just a wet hole. I thought I'd give Noche y Dia a try but the hotties from the night before were not there so I left. I wound up at AŮo Nuevo and Minnie was so cute sitting there. I took her up and had a fantastic time. I will spare you the gruesome details but it was great. I was cured, for the moment. It was so hot with her, I had another boner today just thinking about the night before.

Mugroso

Amuzeme
12-15-04, 08:19
Hey all,

Just got back in the area from an extended Uncle Sam sponsored vacation and a question came to mind as i was catching up on the board. Does one need a prescription to purchase Viagra, Cialis, Levitra or their generic equivalents in Juarez? Where are the best pharmacies to buy them?

Desert Don
12-16-04, 00:14
Hey all,

Just got back in the area from an extended Uncle Sam sponsored vacation and a question came to mind as i was catching up on the board. Does one need a prescription to purchase Viagra, Cialis, Levitra or their generic equivalents in Juarez? Where are the best pharmacies to buy them?In line with this is Edgar at National on Ave. Juarez?

Clydesdale
12-16-04, 02:09
Those are over the counter - no prescription needed. I don't know if there's any difference between the pharmacies. I recently got some flu meds that would have cost a $75 doctor visit and $40 for the pills for $4.50 over the counter there.


Hey all,

Just got back in the area from an extended Uncle Sam sponsored vacation and a question came to mind as i was catching up on the board. Does one need a prescription to purchase Viagra, Cialis, Levitra or their generic equivalents in Juarez? Where are the best pharmacies to buy them?

Ragman
12-16-04, 03:38
Those are over the counter - no prescription needed.
But they are not O-T-C in the US so if you want to (legally) bring any back into the US you will need a prescription from a doctor in the US (land of the free).

Ragman

Pecker Will
12-16-04, 06:15
I don't get to Juarez as often as I'd like - but recently circumstances have allowed some recent visits. Here's the kicker - I had the best FU*K the other day at Genesis with an 18 year old named Brenda. Went back the next day and she had quit. She was so sweet and we moved in sync the entire session. She was a little humored and confused initially at my low-keyed slow approach but she got into it - and as I said, we were moving in sync. Very hot and a real GFE.

Did one of you guys subsidize her? Did you run off with her? Life just isn't fair sometimes.

I remember several years ago having a 17 yr old at Laura's (beautiful thing) thinking I was in for a real sweet treat. No such thing. Young and beautiful does not always translate into hot sex.

But with Brenda, I was stupified. She was my dream come true. Where or where did my little chica go??? As I said, life is not fair.

Pecker Will (and maybe Pecker Won't)

Cienega32
12-16-04, 07:21
Here's a good link regarding the prescription drugs:

http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/xp/cgov/travel/alerts/medication_drugs.xml

I think the main objective at the turnstiles is to prevent the "abusable" items as I've yet to have a problem with the general household antibiotics that merit a script in the States. I've declared them when I cross but as I mentioned earlier - in reasonable amounts.

I would think that the "enhancers" might/could be considered an abusable med based on the guidelines for dispensing them (heart/BP related problems, etc.) and the reason that most monger-type people take them, which in most of our cases, is not how they were intended.

FWIW - I've never been in the position to openly need to declare the enhancers either here or in TJ. Such a big box for such a little pill.

I do have a decent little supply here at home but only because - well damn it - they're just fun to have handy!

New Bound
12-16-04, 14:50
Cienega32, good post about the "dog catcher truck" on Juarez Ave.

I spent every Saturday night for about 3 months hitting those clubs on Juarex Ave and I was always amazed with the number of fights, and the number of American and some Mexican kids gettng thrown into the dog cage for a trip to the Mexican jail. Almost surreal. The more I think about it, in all my wondering around Juarez this is probably the most dangerous area and unlike anything else in Juarez, or Mexico City, or Tijuana, or the South Side of Chicago, or Cali Columbia or anything.

I'm talking about the ten block area South of Juarez Ave after crossing the Santa Fe bridge, plus the near side streets around Hollywood and Queens, etc, on the weekends.

You have admit this is a weird area. Where else do you have 2000 (I want to be a gangster) American kids walking over to an area to get drunk and fight. Where else do you have 15 clubs playing gangster rap/hiphop and nothing else. Seriously, I don't know of another area with such a high percentage of kids (wanting to be gangsters) and wanting to start fights. These are not real gangsters of course, but in some ways they are more dangerous because they are looking to show off in front of their friends how tough they are. They are not money motivated, but simply acting like idiots. Then you have some real Juarez kids who show up to flaunt their tough guy skills as well. Then you have some experienced older opportunists looking to make a buck off all the chaos. And, of course the Juarez police who instead of patrolling the streets would rather a stabbing occur so they can take some kids to jail. In some ways it is funny, how the police simply watch until a hardcore fight breaks out, then decide to make the arrests.

I personally walked the Juarez streets late at night often because my girlfriend lived a few miles southeast from the Santa Fe bridge. I only had a problem once. I was across from the Cave at 2:00 AM on Juarez Ave on a Saturday night and was jumped my 10 street rats. Only time in my life I've had any thing like this happen. Maybe I was wearing the wrong color, or they thought I was someone else, I don't know. In my opinion they just wanted to kick the crap out of someone. They picked wrong guy, as I broke a few kids heads open pretty bad. Still I lost a few teeth. The whole thing was completely absurd and I can't believe it happened to me. If it can happen to me it can happen to anyone. Trust me.

Back to Juarez Ave late on the weekends. I should have been more careful due to the number of fights I witnessed-- some really bad. I saw one black kid getting his head banged in on the Santa Fe bridge one night-- he might have died. Everyone was walking by and not even trying to stop it. Crazy. Still, it is easy to let your guarddown because there are a number of young women walking around so it just doesn't seem very dangerous.

Bottom line, be careful here guys. I still think this is a cool city, but be careful walking Juarez Ave big time.

I'm sure some of you disagree which is fine. I won't respond. I just want guys to have fun and not get hurt. Hopefully this city confronts the violence and cleans it up.

Desert Don
12-17-04, 01:49
It sounds like the best thing to do is get a taxi after you go across bridge and go to MP or maybe clubs, I am new out here, haven't had chance to go yet, but what you write concerns me about walking down Ave. Juarez!

Cienega32
12-17-04, 04:44
Good post New Bound. It's funny - I feel more apprehension those last few blocks on the way back to the bridge (and sometimes ON the bridge) than I do further down or on Mariscal. Mainly for those reasons that you had. Seems to me that the "nite-punks" are out to make an impression on somebody even if it's only themselves and their self-preceived glory.

One nite by the Cave (I think) I watched a few gringo kids talking thru the screen of the truck. "Don't worry - you ain't going anywhere. WE'll get you out". When the female driver came over and they started talking to her, no less than 6 other Policia got in the middle, moved the female away a bit, and 1 drove into the dark streets of the city with the occupants. The overall impression I had from the other kids was that they thought of it as if their buddy(s) was in the custody of a Burger King security guard.

I refuse to use the word "gangster" in today's world. Gangsters are well dressed and are low-key business orientated. GangstA is even above some of the mentality in most of kids anywhere - not just in Juarez.

Maybe it's just me, but it feels that the further away from the American kiddie crowd I go the more secure I feel about my environment. Not less suspicious but a bit more at ease.

I see the same thing here in Vegas. The kiddie tourists come in and get drunk and it becomes an instant contest of who can be more stupid. Some blame the 24 hour aspect of life here and I guess the chica factor and collision of culture can be blamed there but to me, at 52 years of age, it just seems like a blatant disregard for "someone else's neighborhood". No respect in their young throw-away world. Like partying at someone else's house when their parents are out of town. No sense of responsibility, no concept of accountability.

And as great as our country is in so many aspects, the justice system sucks. It's, for the most part, laughable. There are no lessons to be learned. Across the border you act like an asshole it costs you. There's good and bad in both but I think the purpose is to teach action and reaction; crime & punishment. It's hard to learn to take responsibility for your actions when there is no consequence of any proportion. Besides - you're sure to sound cool when you brag about being in a Mexican jail...

I've always thought it was interesting with most of the bars and their "NO CHOLOS" signs. I think it's a great idea on a broadscale. I don't know if it works or not but it sounds good. But the common denominator seems to be "irresponsible drunks" equate to stupid people.

Oh oh. I better stop. I feel a full blown manifesto covering the breakdown of sociey coming on...

SD Gaucho
12-17-04, 06:03
Hello,

I just moved to Albuquerque from San Diego and am looking for the equivalent of Adelitas and Chicago Club(in TJ) to visit in Juarez. Also is there a designated "zona roja" like the zona norte in TJ?

Where is the prime streetwalker scene in Juarez and is it close to the border?
I was in CJ about 8 yrs ago and remember a club Panama? is it still there? Also the taxi drivers took me for "a ride", I think I coughed up about $30 to the cabby to haul me to some of the clubs.

Thanks,

SD Gaucho

Clydesdale
12-17-04, 16:18
Most of the clubs are close to the border, a block west of Ave Juarez on Mariscal. There's plenty of SWs a block west of Mariscal but a lot of them aren't really women.
There's plenty of information if you search the forum.

Hello,

I just moved to Albuquerque from San Diego and am looking for the equivalent of Adelitas and Chicago Club(in TJ) to visit in Juarez. Also is there a designated "zona roja" like the zona norte in TJ?

Where is the prime streetwalker scene in Juarez and is it close to the border?
I was in CJ about 8 yrs ago and remember a club Panama? is it still there? Also the taxi drivers took me for "a ride", I think I coughed up about $30 to the cabby to haul me to some of the clubs.

Thanks,

SD Gaucho

Cienega32
12-17-04, 20:59
It sounds like the best thing to do is get a taxi after you go across bridge and go to MP or maybe clubs, I am new out here, haven't had chance to go yet, but what you write concerns me about walking down Ave. Juarez!
It's not as bad as it sounds. Even New Bound said he couldn't believe it happened to him and he had a girlfriend there.

When you walk over the Santa Fe bridge you're immediately met with a bunch of clubs that cater to the college age gringos who seem to still define success as who has more fuzz on their nuts or who has a better chance of being in a Snoop Dogg Chicks Gone Wild video. Mix that with 18 years and up boozing, pretty chicas & bar pigs from both sides and a local crowd who is still checking the fuzz on THEIR nuts and it can get volatile. These clubs think that American rap is the money making music of the day (I wonder why) and that fuels these wanna-be street thugs into a Ron Artest frenzy. Same thing on this side in some of the "big city" clubs when the black & hispanic gang mentalities clash and their respective "cultural realities" are challenged. Except here (US) "rounds per magazine" is the gold of the day.

When I see the crowds outside the bar doors around 2AM I try to steer clear of them. I don't want to get caught up in whatever their situation is and I don't want to be perceived as a participant. Even if the 25+year difference doesn't make it obvious. The Policia can swoop down out of nowhere like chickenhawks on a busted coop.

I did go into one or two of those clubs "just to see it" and it struck me as a Spring Break type of atmosphere where the drunker you are, the better you are. Not my cup of tea. Give me the "quiet" little bars with a row of pretty little "non-Americanized" chicas with their unassuming smiles that I barely understand when they talk & I'm a happy man.

If you go back thru enough threads here you'll come away with the impression that just going about your "business" in a respectful, non-macho man manner would work. Sadly, the events that New Bound experienced can & do happen for no reason other than "you were there" but not on a regular basis that I know. I've yet to see anything other than the problems spilling out from these "college bars" close to the bridge. If you talk to the turnstile officers when you come back they pretty much say the same thing about the kids and those first few bars being a major headache. They don't get the fact that it's not a game at the dorm house.

Myself, I look at it as I would any other city - keep a third eye in the back of head and don't stand out with your actions. Of course in Juarez you need to respect the fact that you're in another country. The "I'm an American - you can't touch me!" philosophy doesn't work anywhere anymore.

I can't comment on the "new town" side of Juarez. I always go to the Santa Fe bridge "old town" side of the tracks. It's a beautiful place &, for many, an acquired taste to go but just like anywhere else, shit can happen that you don't plan on.

Clydesdale
12-17-04, 23:57
Luxxor put in a new room with a dance pole, disco ball light, and a couple of couches. That looks like something worth trying.
Vanessa is a girl worth trying - very nice body, smooth flat stomach, small breasts, and a shapely butt. She's quite pleasant, and by 2 minutes into the massage I've forgotten all about the massage. I went there looking for the girl Adam Duritz recommended, but wasn't disappointed.

Mugroso
12-18-04, 01:49
I went down last night to give a tour for an out of town boss of a friend. Picky little fellow but I guess he had a new experience. But that is not the highlight of the evening.

We stopped by Adrians burritos because friend is a cousin of Adrian. I was full but boss liked the burritos. Adrian has since painted the place and cleaned things up a bit. He may as well make his business image as good as his burritos. I wonder how much gringo business he lost from the previous appearance. But that isn't the highlight of the evening either.

Long story short we wound up at Queens. Marisela was there but seemed to disappear. Someone must have taken her out. Yessenia got up to dance and did her thing in a little french maid outfit. Not my favorite outfit of hers but still hot. She wore white stockings. I'm nuts for stockings. If you want to see me fuck a pig, put stocking on it.

After her set I ran up to her and asked the price of the evening. I agreed but only if I could take pics for the website. It was hell taking pics, I had a boner and just had to jump them bones. Well I got a few snapped off and dove in. Very passionate lady. She seemed a bit reserved to a point. She is something else.

Mug

Dougie
12-19-04, 21:36
Also is there a designated "zona roja" like the zona norte in TJ?

Where is the prime streetwalker scene in Juarez and is it close to the border?
I was in CJ about 8 yrs ago and remember a club Panama? is it still there?

No "official" Zona but an unofficial one. But the great thing about CJ is there is sex available all over town. There are lots of massage parlors, which I prefer to the whole downtown Zona scene. Much more laid back, less expensive too. Good if you are not a night owl, they open and close early relative to the action in the Zona.

Lots of SW action downtown in the "Zona", basically the neighborhood west of Av. Juarez running south from the bridge to 16 de Septiembre. But look close, especially the hands and Adam's apple, if you know what I mean. Lots of chicos in the neighborhood and some of them will fool you. You don't want your Juanita to turn out to be a Juan, do you?? ;^) Not that it has ever happened to me. Mug, what was the name of that chico bar we walked past on Mariscal, I want to play a dirty trick on some amigos of mine next time I am down there.

Dougie
12-19-04, 21:49
To start planning the next Mongerpalooza that is. How about some time around Easter, say the saturday in between Good Friday and Easter Sunday. Both Good Friday and Easter Sunday are pretty slow, from a mongering standpoint that is, but the saturday in between is just another day. Either that or the weekend following Easter would also work.

Anybody interested in taking in the Bullfights on Easter Sunday??

Mugroso
12-20-04, 04:05
Mug, what was the name of that chico bar we walked past on Mariscal, I want to play a dirty trick on some amigos of mine next time I am down there.

Dougie
Are you talking about the gay bar or where the trannys are? The gay bar is just past the Centro Lagunero but not past the old MontaŮa bar. That would be a great place to play the joke on your friends. Before I knew it was a gay bar I saw some hot "chicas" walking in to I followed. I went up the stairs and when the bar got to be about eye level I realized I was mistaken. No point in mentioning what I saw.

Mug

Dirty BJ
12-21-04, 22:58
Hello Out there,

I am a former NMSU Grad, who triumfantly returned to Juarez this past week. I now live in NJ where yes, there are many *****s, but not like the Jtown *****s.

I had not been to the area since 2000, and yes, I did notice a substantial amount of Trannys walking around. I think back in 2000 there was only one or two places for that shit, but there are definatly more now.

I enjoyed my four nights back there, and it was definitly worth the trip.

Cheers to Juarez and its fabulous SW's.

Pecker Will
12-22-04, 16:17
************** Missing Ass Alert ******************

18 year old named Brenda, dark brown hair, dark brown eyes, about 5' 3", fair complexion, hint of dimples, two small "ear" rings on her right eyebrow, very sweet. Last seen 12/19/04 at Genesis, wearing - not a stitch. Has nice little patch between the legs, well-trimmed, sort of like a verticle mustache.

If anyone has information leading to the recovery of this chica, please PM me and ensure yourself receiving a six pack of Tecate.

This is the end of today's Missing Ass Alert.

PW :)

DreamingEagle
12-23-04, 07:56
Can anyone give me any really, really good directions to this place on 16 de Septiembre, Masaje Luxor? I have the address in my car, but I cannot find the place. The only thing I have not done is park somewhere in the 15 hundredth block and walk around until I find it. Also, do they have any slender, attractive girls?

I'm really tired of my usual haunts and have 12 glorious days to hole up in my apartment for the holidays. Any MP news would be most welcome.

DreamingEagle
12-23-04, 07:59
I went down last night to give a tour for an out of town boss of a friend. Picky little fellow but I guess he had a new experience. But that is not the highlight of the evening.

I think it would be great to hear more about your experiences hauling these dudes around.

Gallo Ingles
12-23-04, 12:55
Can anyone give me any really, really good directions to this place on 16 de Septiembre, Masaje Luxor? I have the address in my car, but I cannot find the place. The only thing I have not done is park somewhere in the 15 hundredth block and walk around until I find it. Also, do they have any slender, attractive girls?

I'm really tired of my usual haunts and have 12 glorious days to hole up in my apartment for the holidays. Any MP news would be most welcome.I'm not sure that my directions would be really, really good as I went there at night but here goes: Get on 16 de septiembre heading toward el centro from the Pronaf area. It is a one way street. Luxxor is on the left hand side around the area of the corner of Rep. El Salvador (among all of the Latin American country named streets). There is a very small parking lot in front of the place and a beauty shop next door whose name eludes me at the moment. You can pull in and park there.

A friend of mine spoke very highly of a session with Vanessa who was a most attractive, slender young lady from Zacatecas. She was the only one there when we went and my buddy was from out of town, so I did the only gracious thing and let him have her. I have been planning to go back ever since to satiate my own curiosity.

DE, please give us one of your customarily eloquent reports when you return (or sooner).

Sun Devil
12-23-04, 13:50
DE:

Luxxor is just east of Bolivia on 16 de Septiembre. If you know where Felina and Corpus are on Borunda, as I know you do, just go north until you hit 16 de Septiembre. Turn left and it will be on the left hand side of the road. Another landmark is that it is opposite from the big white mansion on 16th de Septiembre, the one just west of Juan Gabriel's house.

It used to be a barber shop until the current owners turned it into a massage parlor, hence one can get a pedicure or manicure at the place as well, which I have done in the past.

There are a number of slim girls in the place: Crystal, Vanessa, Claudia, Erica, Natalia. Hope this helps.

Mugroso
12-23-04, 17:27
I am going to have to try this place. Its name seems to be plastered all over the place and have heard good reports on and offline. For a place to have one girl on duty and still have praises is on my list.

DE, as far as my tours go here are the stats. One is a poster here (name withheld) and another is a viewing member awaiting permission to post. I have had a few others. The guys I have met so far are some really great guys. One has done some extensive research on the bar and MP scene in Juarez. And I do mean extensive. He is a very inteligent fellow. In November I was unable to provide a tour because it was my birthday and a day tour was not possible. This guy is smart. He took the border trolley for 12.50usd. The trolley route takes you by several MPs. Some walking is required but it worked out great. Check out www.borderjumper.com, follow the route. You will be in reasonable distance to Venus I and II, Brendas, El Encanto, Sirenas, Luxxor, Cleopatra, lets see, what else have I missed. This saves the hassles of taxi and bus routes.


The tours are not as lucrative as I'd like. The pay portion is doing well. Much better than I had expected.

Mugroso

Mugroso
12-23-04, 17:31
What gives Pecker. It has only been 4 days and she is gone already? What did you do to that poor girl? I hope she just didn't work to make Christmas cash. What do you mean by "recovery"?

Mugroso




************** Missing Ass Alert ******************

18 year old named Brenda, dark brown hair, dark brown eyes, about 5' 3", fair complexion, hint of dimples, two small "ear" rings on her right eyebrow, very sweet. Last seen 12/19/04 at Genesis, wearing - not a stitch. Has nice little patch between the legs, well-trimmed, sort of like a verticle mustache.

If anyone has information leading to the recovery of this chica, please PM me and ensure yourself receiving a six pack of Tecate.

This is the end of today's Missing Ass Alert.

PW :)

Nashboy
12-23-04, 17:40
Hey all,

Just got back in the area from an extended Uncle Sam sponsored vacation and a question came to mind as i was catching up on the board. Does one need a prescription to purchase Viagra, Cialis, Levitra or their generic equivalents in Juarez? Where are the best pharmacies to buy them?You're much better off buying Viagra, Cialis and Levitra through RX-MEX.NET from your home computer. They have a really good rep. I've bought both their generic Viagra and generic Cialis (NO doctor's fees and NO script needed) and both worked great, however I like the Cialis better as it lasts longer in your system (up to 36 hours). They also have generic Levitra as well, though I've never used it. Depending on the quantity you buy, costs around $3 (U.S.) per pill or so (about 75 - 80% off the brand name). I've been a customer for almost 2 years and never had a problem. keep in mind that it takes about 2 weeks or so to be delivered. Hope this helps!

Coyote79
12-23-04, 18:18
DE:
There are a number of slim girls in the place: Crystal, Vanessa, Claudia, Erica, Natalia. Hope this helps.Is that the same Claudia who use to work at Cleopatria's?

Very petite, native looking, about 20 yo?

I missed her after she left Cleo's.

Coyote79
12-23-04, 18:25
************** Missing Ass Alert ******************

18 year old named Brenda, dark brown hair, dark brown eyes, about 5' 3", fair complexion, hint of dimples, two small "ear" rings on her right eyebrow, very sweet. Last seen 12/19/04 at Genesis, wearing - not a stitch. Has nice little patch between the legs, well-trimmed, sort of like a verticle mustache.

If anyone has information leading to the recovery of this chica, please PM me and ensure yourself receiving a six pack of Tecate.

This is the end of today's Missing Ass Alert.

PW :)I don't know if you remember, Pecker, but you hooked me up with Lola, who gave me an experience I'll remember untill I kick off!!

So for helping me out I will keep my eyes open, but she sounds like my type too, and you know after I've seen her she'll be ruined for all other men.

DreamingEagle
12-24-04, 06:51
DE:

Luxxor is just east of Bolivia on 16 de Septiembre. If you know where Felina and Corpus are on Borunda, as I know you do, just go north until you hit 16 de Septiembre. Turn left and it will be on the left hand side of the road. Another landmark is that it is opposite from the big white mansion on 16th de Septiembre, the one just west of Juan Gabriel's house.

It used to be a barber shop until the current owners turned it into a massage parlor, hence one can get a pedicure or manicure at the place as well, which I have done in the past.

There are a number of slim girls in the place: Crystal, Vanessa, Claudia, Erica, Natalia. Hope this helps.

I must be going blind because this is exactly where I was looking, but I was looking for a house, not an ex-barber shop.

DreamingEagle
12-24-04, 06:59
I'm not sure that my directions would be really, really good as I went there at night but here goes: Get on 16 de septiembre heading toward el centro from the Pronaf area. It is a one way street. Luxxor is on the left hand side around the area of the corner of Rep. El Salvador (among all of the Latin American country named streets). There is a very small parking lot in front of the place and a beauty shop next door whose name eludes me at the moment. You can pull in and park there.

DE, please give us one of your customarily eloquent reports when you return (or sooner).

Thanks to you both for the directions. I will definitely check it out this coming weekend.

I haven't had time to post because I have been too busy with www.worldcountries.info to even look up, and, besides, I don't really have anything to contribute in the way of anything not already posted here. I don't go downtown, and the MPs are all here. I haven't even been to Sirena's in four weeks, and I get it for free there twice a month if I want it. I probably need to lighten up a little and have some fun for a change...:)

BorderJumper
12-24-04, 14:38
Good to see you haven't been kidnapped or warse DE. Mugroso and I were talking the other night and were concerned. Hope you have a very good holiday season over there in Juarez this weekend.

Cienega32
12-24-04, 20:48
In line with this is Edgar at National on Ave. Juarez?

Don't know if this was responded to or not but yes - Edgar is at National on Ave Juarez. The first one from the bridge. I say that as sometimes he can be found at the other National further down the street.

Sun Devil
12-25-04, 06:02
Is that the same Claudia who use to work at Cleopatria's?

Very petite, native looking, about 20 yo?

I missed her after she left Cleo's.

No, the Claudia at Luxxor is of medium height, fair complexion, and fairly slim of built. She told me that she is 22 years old.

Pecker Will
12-25-04, 19:37
Okay, Coyote79, help me out here - or anyone else. I had the whole world one day, and the next day nothing - she's gone. She set the bar much higher than its ever been before - and I never expected that from an 18 year old - maybe a 19 year old, but no, not an 18 year old. And go ahead and give me some more details on Lola. PM me or post it here. I'd like to know but it doesn't surprise me. She'll be returning from out of town early next year (2005).

And, Mugroso, it wasn't what I did to the poor gal, it's what she did to me. She was really in sync. I usually have a difficult time popping the cork sometimes - but with Brenda, I nearly popped 4 times until I couldn't stand it any longer.

Let's fess up - who took her away???

Full recovery means in her arms again (and I'll take it from there). The six pack of Tecate has been raised to include a bottle of Suiza Tequilla de Mexico.

You can't beat a year end deal like this.

PW

Sun Devil
12-25-04, 22:24
You might try Venus or Venus II. Those are the places where she worked before going to Genesis. Good luck in your search.

I feel your pain. I too have lost some favorite providers for various reasons: quitting the business either permanently or temporarily, going to other cities (i.e. Tijuana) to work, or finding husbands or boyfriends. For some of these girls this is a seasonal business, one in which they can work for a few months and then rest for the rest of the year.

Mugroso
12-26-04, 05:50
I too have suffered the pain of losing a good masajista. I am not talking about sex here. Her name was Perla and she worked at Paraiso about 5 or so years ago, maybe more.

She gave the most excellent and professional massage. She never tried to get me horny so she could "crank out another one". She gave me a good firm handed massage and then with her finger tips lightly danced on my skin. She would then flip me over and massage the front (still professionally) and move up to my face and worked that too and at some point gave my feet some attention. I would be so relaxed.

Then in the same manner with her finger tips danced on my balls. It was a shame to feel so relaxed then get horny and have sex.

She moved on to open her own massage parlor but that soon shut down and I never knew why.

Then one day I ran into her at the Paraiso and she explained that she was caught smuggling across the border and did a year or so in a U.S. prison. She was pregnant when I saw her and she said she would be back to work soon. I never saw her after that.

When I knew her, she wore glasses and had that Mexican red hair. Dyed I'm sure.

Ever since then I have yet to recieve a comparable massage from anyone. Great sex, yes. But not the massage which may come as a shock to some to hear me say that.

The Filthy (longing for a good massage) One

Pecker Will
12-26-04, 06:39
Thanks for the nice comments. Which leads me to point out two radically different and opposing views of life and love:

1. Tis better to have love and lost than to have never loved at all (Shakespear? or Alfred E. Neuman?)

2. He who loves loses. (Author unknown - at least to me)

Go ahead, take a poll here. Who votes for 1 and who votes for 2.

PW

Desert Don
12-26-04, 19:42
Well number 1 is of course the best of the two, the only problem here is someone chasing a Mexcian ***** and calling it love is disfunctional, but there are different types of love, some normal and healthy and some which are not!

RearWindow
12-27-04, 01:02
Thanks for the nice comments. Which leads me to point out two radically different and opposing views of life and love:

1. Tis better to have love and lost than to have never loved at all (Shakespear? or Alfred E. Neuman?)

2. He who loves loses. (Author unknown - at least to me)

Go ahead, take a poll here. Who votes for 1 and who votes for 2.

PW Love is two minutes fifty two seconds of squishing noises. It shows your mind isn't clicking right.-Johnny Rotten

Coyote79
12-28-04, 18:19
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DreamingEagle
12-28-04, 18:47
Thanks for the nice comments. Which leads me to point out two radically different and opposing views of life and love:

1. Tis better to have love and lost than to have never loved at all (Shakespear? or Alfred E. Neuman?)

2. He who loves loses. (Author unknown - at least to me)

Go ahead, take a poll here. Who votes for 1 and who votes for 2.

PW

This response assumes you mean the romantic one-to-one kind of love leading to marriage and lasting commitment.

Given a stark choice, it would have to be #1 in favor of having known love, partially so one will know what all the poetry is about but primarily so one can avoid it at all costs in the future.

That said, there are all kinds of love, and in pre-mongering days --- back when I was still young and attractive enough a beautiful woman in the U.S. might still want me as a lover --- I don't think I ever had a relationship with any woman I didn't love on some level. It certainly deepened the experience, and most of them still write from time to time. I never lied to them about wanting to remain single, or even faithful. I can even love a favorita in a massage parlor as a sweet kid and great time in the sack. There are all kinds of love...

On the great mongering issue of the ages about falling in love with a provider, in most cases it's foolish wishful thinking, especially if there is hint of drugs involved in her life or a great age difference. Then, on the other hand, there are exceptions. My first GF in Mexico was a provider, and she came home every night like clockwork. When I would not marry her, she married another guy, because she wanted out. She never went back and is faithful to him. So it all depends, but it doesn't, as a rule, seem to ever work out.