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Doctor_Skank
01-27-10, 16:54
Once you visit an apartment (which they seem to be shared by several girls according to my online research) are they actually flexible to let you choose not the one you originally picked what another one you fancy more instead?. Reading the russian forums, photoshop enhancement masterpieces are not uncommon at all in dosug and intimcity!
In addition to what Jake said, if you go to a normal salon/brother (many mamba girls are actually just a front for a brothel) you can choose from a lineup. If you prefer this, why not just go to a brothel/salon in the first place?

And as Jake said, if you are actually dealing with an individiualka/freelancer, she is the only one at her apartment. This type of girl I usually have come to me. Costs maybe 500-700 rubel extra for taxi, but is more comfortable for you. They will often require 2-hour minimum or more.

And if the girl is really not even close to what you want or expect, be ice fucking cold. Send her packing. I've done it on several occassions. That is the way you have to be in Russia or people will eat you for lunch.

Alxxx
01-27-10, 20:44
gopnitsa moya (this one being when you're in real harmony with the girl and yourself a gopnik,as I am!),

sushka moya:)Believe me, you don't want to say that to a girl LOL

At least the first one.

Anastasia777
01-31-10, 19:06
http://eliteindependent-escort.com

Helena Moscow
02-13-10, 17:29
http://www.companionreviews.net and http://www.moscowcompanions.com are stealing well-known pictures from internet and as contact give their own details. On both sites same contact. Must be a farud agency.

Be careful.

It Travel
03-25-10, 15:02
simply crazy!


prices on mamba (or whatever you call it) are something simply astonishing, positively and negatively…

just asked a 20 y.o. normal girl seeking for a sponsor in moscow (a sexual one of course)… just as the next door girl, and she answered me 8000 rub for 2 hours and 5000 extra for anal and bbbj! ohhh! crazy, so i asked her for a full day and night? 24 hours? she answered 30.000 all included, but if you take my friend (girl, nice, 23) too it will be 50.000 rur, more or less 1.700 usd! in moscow.

in the same time you have other normal next door girl (tanya and katya in kiev) charging 300 (200 €) + dinner and presents (for both!) with katya’s mouth as a real cumdump! only one real no… no porn photos…

getting back to moscow i have negotiated the same price: 50.000 rub/24 hour for a couple of goddesses that might be worth, like teen freckly full lesbian models you could not even see on playboy, one 18 one 19… but who knows what they are doing in bed? may bey they are worth to be taken for an hour... or not? i think no... you still find very energetic ones for 8000/10.000 a night... 7-8 ones max 22-23...

simply like a jungle!

so i prefer the low rate 200/400 usd day sponsorette in the 18/25 y.o. class, you can get much out of them for little money, especially if you spend some time. let's say from 6 to 8 in my taste... not one denied bbbj and almost all cim or cof some even swallowing!

it

ps must say that here i found my best fucks in ua (not un rus) like inga, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), uliana, mystery tramp, katya, tanya etc...

HunterDave
03-25-10, 17:01
simply crazy!

prices on mamba (or whatever you call it) are something simply astonishing, positively and negatively

just asked a 20 year old normal girl seeking for a sponsor in moscow (a sexual one of course) just as the next door girl, and she answered me 8000 rub for 2 hours and 5000 extra for anal and bbbj! ohhh! crazy, so i asked her for a full day and night? 24 hours? she answered 30. 000 all included, but if you take my friend (girl, nice, 23) too it will be 50. 000 rur, more or less 1. 700 usd! in moscow.

in the same time you have other normal next door girl (tanya and katya in kiev) charging 300 (200 €) + dinner and presents (for both!) with katya's mouth as a real cumdump! only one real no no porn photos

getting back to moscow i have negotiated the same price: 50. 000 rub/24 hour for a couple of goddesses that might be worth, like teen freckly full lesbian models you could not even see on playboy, one 18 one 19 but who knows what they are doing in bed? may bey they are worth to be taken for an hour. or not? i think no. you still find very energetic ones for 8000/10. 000 a night. 7-8 ones max 22-23.

simply like a jungle!

so i prefer the low rate 200/400 usd day sponsorette in the 18/25 year old class, you can get much out of them for little money, especially if you spend some time. let's say from 6 to 8 in my taste. not one denied bbbj and almost all cim or cof some even swallowing!

it

ps must say that here i found my best fucks in ua (not un rus) like inga, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), uliana, mystery tramp, katya, tanya etc.it,

totally agree based on my ua experience. mamba/flirt research before you arrive and further weeding out the young players who want to meet in advance will help and increase one's odds when you get on the ground. plus asking for the level of services she offers and what you want helps further weed out the truly interested women from those looking to potentially rip you off and also avoids problems when you are with her. let's face it, if you want to maximize your mongering time, then good advanced research will improve one's odds of scoring.

hunter

Uncle Al
04-05-10, 23:38
Is there a url for Mamba or any info where to find it.

Thanks

HunterDave
04-07-10, 02:43
Is there a url for Mamba or any info where to find it.

ThanksUncle,

Try this out.

http://mamba.ru

Hunter

Sam80
04-09-10, 13:33
I want to share my experience, first of all I like more girls from the north Capital - Saint Petersburg than from Moscow. The girls are more more of a upscale, very sweet.

Stravinsky
04-10-10, 15:48
Sam80,

If you have specific recommendations for girls from Piter, probably best to put them in the St. Petersburg thread.

Dymytry
04-11-10, 11:57
Guys, I need your advice.

I'm looking for good world-wide dating site, similar to what we all use in Russia - mamba, dating etc. I have googled them but I've found out that many of this sites are paid, and there is a lot of fake forms (fake women pages, I mean). I want to find sites with girls from english-speaking countries (USA, Britain) to improve my English, and also girls from the countries where I plan to travel soon (Asian countries, probably Germany, Great Britain, Ireland).

So, can you give me advice concerning this? I'm looking for a free site with real people on it.

Goga Fung
04-12-10, 03:46
Guys, I need your advice.

I'm looking for good world-wide dating site, similar to what we all use in Russia - mamba, dating etc. I have googled them but I've found out that many of this sites are paid, and there is a lot of fake forms (fake women pages, I mean). I want to find sites with girls from english-speaking countries (USA, Britain) to improve my English, and also girls from the countries where I plan to travel soon (Asian countries, probably Germany, Great Britain, Ireland).

So, can you give me advice concerning this? I'm looking for a free site with real people on it.Latin America oriented, not completely free, but good quality, with different languages and translations:

http://www.romancelatina.com/

Completely free, but all kinds of crap is there:

http://www.plentyoffish.com/

Dogger862
04-14-10, 02:32
Simply Crazy!

Prices on Mamba (or whatever you call it) are something simply astonishing, positively and negatively…

Just asked a 20 y.o. normal girl seeking for a sponsor in Moscow (a sexual one of course)… just as the next door girl, and she answered me 8000 RUB for 2 hours and 5000 extra for anal and BBBJ! Ohhh! Crazy, so I asked her for a full day and night? 24 hours? She answered 30.000 all included, but if you take my friend (girl, nice, 23) too it will be 50.000 RUR, more or less 1.700 USD! In Moscow.They are crazy prices, you could have 3-4 beautiful cuties in the provinces for that, for alot longer period, with no holds (holes) barred!

It's well worth shopping around, doing some homework and being prepared. I've had limited success with sponsorships on Moscow, my best was for a few months with a 24yo teacher...here's Dogger being generous...

Cheers,

Kira 15 february 2008 at 12:56
I think my generousity can extend to 5000 rur...sounds fair to me :-)...
so do you know if Friday to Sunday is OK?

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Kira 15 february 2008 at 11:27
well... some 5000 rur would satisfy me))

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*** 15 february 2008 at 11:25
You may be able to give me an indication of how generous you would like me to be......:-)

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Kira 15 february 2008 at 08:36
i don't mind staying the weekend really... i'm almost sure we'll like each other. one point i'd like to clear up is... your generosity... what are you going to leave me after our sweet meeting?)))

Marriott
04-14-10, 09:19
Hi,

I found a new website with interesting girls. A lot of them are little older and not so photoshopped. Of course you find the photoshopped there as well.

But I prefer this site better then dosug.cz

On the top right choose your city and press the black box underneath and you got them all.

They got a ton of listings.

I found this site by accident, because I was checking the telefonnumber of a girl in google and this site popped up.

Have fun

www.ston.ru

Eros74
04-14-10, 13:00
Dogger862,

yes 5.000 rub but it was 2008 and I am afraid in 2 years prices changed a lot....imho.

Dogger862
04-14-10, 20:21
Dogger862,

yes 5.000 rub but it was 2008 and I am afraid in 2 years prices changed a lot....imho.I wasn't suggesting that you could get that now! Just showing how prices can widely vary, even in Moscow, let alone the provinces.

Cheers,

Vigilantemoscow
04-29-10, 22:00
Dear All

Here it is my long overdue modest contribution.

Last Saturday.still not fully recovered from the massive hangover of the previous night and frustrated by having failed to score- I decided not to rely on any of my existing feebie companionships and venture instead in the entertaining world of P2P to pursue new pussy. After some searching in Mamba I agreed with a young non-pro a visit to my place around midnight, however she let me down and decided to postponed the meeting to the following day!. Needless to say at that point of the night was considerably horny, almost in a state of desperation so I quickly started browsing again in Mamba to arrange my urgent relief. Unfortunately most of the available ladies would not do on-call and I was not prepared to waste my little energies walking and searching in dark corners of Moscow for their love nest so I had no choice than taking the first girl who accepted coming to my place (Olja, damage 6000 Rb for two hours which I thought was not bad for her pictures).

Well, there she was at 1am waiting down the street and the first thing I noticed her face was heavily air brushed in her profile, I would not call her ugly but certainly was bellow par. Body wise she was tall, brunette, not particularly well dressed, but her tight jeans showed a figure which I thought in motion could be worth the punt. In any case, it was that or nothing I said to myself, although it was clear from the beginning there was not much of a connection (despite I made the effort of dressing up and perfuming myself as if I was going out on a w/end hunting night) and she was not going to provide a memorable time.

There we go to the flat, served drinks and turn on the TV on her request to listen to some music. Nothing wrong I thought since I am not the person who can jump to business withouth some warming up anyway. Then conversation was flowing then a bit (I am not fluent in Russian and she was not making an special effort to speak slowly) she was 20 years old, Ukranian and came to Moscow 9 months ago, but was hardly entertaining. After 30 mins I had to propose to go to bed for some body massage for which I volunteered trying again to soften her cold emotions. Massage helped a bit, she reciprocated and then we got down to business. Minet with rubber was correct but passionless, followed up with misionery and doggy style. By that time she was in a better mood but it was clear this was not going to be the shag of my life. A bit of rest and hugs then off for the final round since I still haven't come and we were over an hour a half of match but then disaster stroke: freshness in my little head alerted me something was wrong, I pulled out and indeed my "plastic shirt" had broken!. That was the end of the night because she started to complain as it was a terrible thing because she did not take the pill and so on but I am also thinking she might have taken the opportunity to find an excuse to finish the deal as it was. She jumped to the shower, smoked a cigarrete, moaned a little bit more and left not without asking for some cash for the taxi (which I did not give her). Unfortunately no chance to take pictures either, and to be honest I am not sure whether I would want to remember. Out of curiosity I have been trying to find her again in Mamba unsuccesfully, perhaps she is only a very part timer but interestingly enough I found out in sextalk. Ru her phone number used to belong to another lady (I remember her mentioning she changed her number recently but I could not understand the reasons).

All in all, an average experience. I am not a frequent monger so I hope future ocassions will be more exciting. I am also thinking that restricting myself to girls who visit it is preventing me to access the wider pool of talent who only work at home/salon. Problem is not only the inconvenience of having to find the apartments (especially late at night) but also my personal preference of working in the confort of my own bed and environment.

Any recent Mamba experience to share any of you guys?

Vigilante

Stravinsky
04-30-10, 15:41
Vigilante,

Thanks for the report.

Ah... the midnight booty call.

Why would you go to the internet looking for dyeffki, when the club scene is just getting started? Places like Night Flight, 911 Aurora and (gulp) Hot Dogs have plenty of P4P women to choose from. You will pay twice as much, it's true, but at least you will have a chance to meet the girls first before you make your selection.

There are also plenty of salons and massage parlors that will be happy to take care of your needs at that time, for less than what you paid Olga. They might not have much of a selection, but again, at least you will know what you're getting into before you choose.

Vigilantemoscow
05-04-10, 17:51
My pleasure Stravisky

Salons seem indeed the way to go but I am juggling two girlfriends in Moscow (plus one abroad) and there are not many spare nights or energy left to go out finding any of those lovely flats! I really need to force myself though to do it one of these days now that weather is good.

Two friends are possibly coming over to visit me, do you know whether is possible to find flats with enough girls to accommodate three customers simultaneously?. Even if they are my friends I would find a bit repulsive the idea of shagging in turns the same bird!

Vigilante


Vigilante,

Thanks for the report.

Ah... the midnight booty call.

Why would you go to the internet looking for dyeffki, when the club scene is just getting started? Places like Night Flight, 911 Aurora and (gulp) Hot Dogs have plenty of P4P women to choose from. You will pay twice as much, it's true, but at least you will have a chance to meet the girls first before you make your selection.

There are also plenty of salons and massage parlors that will be happy to take care of your needs at that time, for less than what you paid Olga. They might not have much of a selection, but again, at least you will know what you're getting into before you choose.

Joe Bond
05-05-10, 03:30
Is it a good way to get to know a woman there and get a freebies?

Stravinsky
05-05-10, 05:20
Even if they are my friends I would find a bit repulsive the idea of shagging in turns the same bird!It's true, most salons operate in private apartments with only 2 or 3 bedrooms. If you're talking about 3 guys, with 3 different girls, in 3 separate rooms: that's a tough one.

Probably the best place would be Aurora 911; plenty of girls, plenty of rooms to handle all of you. But a little pricey.

I haven't been to the new Fantasys yet, but I imagine it could handle a group of 3 guys at the same time. Pizdyets could tell you more about that.

The other places that come to mind would be Charmel and the erotic-massage.ru location at Universityet. They had a big apartment, maybe 4 or 5 bedrooms, but it's a bit of a trek.

In any event, it's probably not a good idea for the 3 of you to descend on any salon unannounced. Best to RSVP first. :)

EasyEase
05-05-10, 16:40
Hi dear mongers,

I am curently writing to a lady in Russia that I met through Mamba. I am afraid she is scaming me since she is writting kinda standard mails.

If I recall right there is a webpage where one can submit a picture and this webpage will determin if the picture has been used in other webpages and is scam or not. Can anyone send me this link?

I am not publishing her picture here in case she is not a scammer.

Thank you for your help.

Easyease

Pizdyets
05-05-10, 19:09
It's true, most salons operate in private apartments with only 2 or 3 bedrooms. If you're talking about 3 guys, with 3 different girls, in 3 separate rooms: that's a tough one.

In any event, it's probably not a good idea for the 3 of you to descend on any salon unannounced. Best to RSVP first. :)

Problem is... they will ALWAYS say they have enough rooms (and/or girls) on the phone. They want to get you in the door, let you pick out your girls, have them rile you up a bit, and then break the bad news to you. Half the time I go to salons in groups, 2 of the guys get stuck in the same room. Frankly, I don't give a shit anymore as long as the bed is big enough for 4. And it's actually fun to do a little tag-team-action with a good friend.

Chill Bill
05-08-10, 21:23
Hi. Anyone try to use this social website as a way to meet girls?

Chill Bill
05-08-10, 22:51
Does anyone know how to sign-up for the Advance Search feature on Mamba from a USA cell phone? Is it possible?

Dogger862
05-17-10, 07:38
Any recent Mamba experience to share any of you guys?

VigilanteMy most unusual last minute Rambler/Mamba search involved a sponsorette and a search for a third to join us.

It was too cold to head out and we couldn't be bothered anyway. Our regular threesome partners were unavailable, so we decided to find a third off Rambler. The sponsorette is pretty picky (far more than I am) but finally we found one and had contact. The plan was to meet in the carpark outside the hotel and then come up to my room.

About an hour later we are in the carpark and the girl turns up. She looked OK to me but apparently she was not the same girl that we had contacted, and she wanted more to join us. This resulted in a heated exchange between the two girls, which then lead to calls on mobile phones. The Russian was too rapid fire for me to make out but apparently they were calling for backup.

Soon, two small chick cars pulled up in the park and there were now eight girls going at each other (verbally) in the carpark. Getting sick of the whole thing, and getting cold by this stage, I stepped between them and suggested we all go to the bar attached to the hotel for some champagne and vodka, and maybe some dancing (I was hoping to salvage something from this). To my surprise, they agreed and off we went (of course I was paying for the lot so it may not be so surprising). We all went up to the bar and had quite a few bottles of champagne and vodka, with the usual accompaniments.

A little while later, I was quite enjoying watching the girls dance, and asked the sponsorette which one we would take back with us, or could I have them all? Well, she got quite pouty and said she wanted to leave...leaving me with the dilemma to stay and maybe get another catch from the group and lose this one, or leave with nothing...I had invested too much into the sponsorette to just leave her then, so off we went, and in the end I got nothing.

Yep, the midnight booty call...you never know what you are going to get (or not!)

Cheers,

SweetAndBitter
05-26-10, 13:31
There were new sites of the same owners as http://intimcity.ru

It - http://rusdosug.com
And - http://sexfabrika.ru

While experience of a call of girls therefrom excellent.Hi!

Are the prices in the websites correct or do they charge more?

Any experience with the prices?

Thanks

Passepartout
06-02-10, 19:19
Prices usually correspond to what is indicated with maybe a +1000 rur because you are foreigner

Pizdyets
06-03-10, 11:05
Prices usually correspond to what is indicated with maybe a +1000 rur because you are foreigner

I've never paid more than advertised, but then again my Russian is decent (though with strong accent).

Passepartout
06-03-10, 17:25
me too, but once you do not speak russian or few words only then i guess they could increase a little bit. But basically the price indicated is reliable.

Bez Bezarra
06-04-10, 02:08
My most unusual search involved a heated exchange between two girls, which then lead to chick cars in the carpark and then eight girls are going at each other (verbally) and we all went up to the bar and had quite a few bottles of champagne and vodka, and in the end I got nothing.



Only in our beloved glorious Mother Russia, can life be so interesting.

But how could you miss such an obvious cue?

You'd already been with your sponsorette before, and now here she is calling in 7 re-inforcements for you to open a new line, and with SEVEN CHOICES, you couldn't manage to grab the hottest one and make a run for it??? Because you were worrying about money already spent???

If I recall, you ARE the same Dog face that posted that 'long term investment' super-ultra fire hot province blondinka, right?

Well, I don't know, with taste as magnificent as yours, I just figured you'd know and even live by the rule that the hottest unexpected dyevs will always be the result of some unplanned argument that leads to you and 8 dyevs in a carpark.

I guess the only plausible explanation you must have, hopefully, is that NONE of the 7 new introductions measured up to your standards? Its just hard to believe, figuring the odds that within ANY group of 7 russian dyevs, at LEAST one has got to be worthy of some managed mischief.

AZN Monger
08-13-10, 06:19
Is www.russiansexbombs.com a legit site?

CallSign Papa
08-13-10, 10:37
Hi. Anyone try to use this social website as a way to meet girls?


Hi Bill, Vkontakte is a tricky one for picking girls up on. It's much more like Facebook and much less like Mamba. In other words, more for a circle of friends to share fotos and stuff.

IMHO you need a pretty detailed page yourself before you can start contacting girls, and they're much more suspicious of guys they don't know (especially with an empty profile).

Mail.ru is a better option if you ask me (and i'm assuming we're discounting Mamba from the equation). Girls are much more likely to respond.

Latexian2
08-14-10, 00:22
Hi Bill, Vkontakte is a tricky one for picking girls up on. It's much more like Facebook and much less like Mamba. In other words, more for a circle of friends to share fotos and stuff.

IMHO you need a pretty detailed page yourself before you can start contacting girls, and they're much more suspicious of guys they don't know (especially with an empty profile).

Mail.ru is a better option if you ask me (and i'm assuming we're discounting Mamba from the equation). Girls are much more likely to respond.

The Shadow is quite right that vkontakte is more of a normal social networking site, that is girls (and guys) on there mostly have profiles just to network with their existing friends. That said, I have met TONS of girls through vkontakte with some success in meeting them and then romance. You will need Russian, and 95% of girls on there are not looking for sponsors or anything, but it has more profiles per location than any other site. So if you have language skills it can be a good way to find normal girls (freebies), but other than that it's no good.

Mamba (ramber, etc.) has gone way downhill as a way to find girls in the past few years, due to fake profiles and few responses. Unfortunately there is no good replacement, but vkontakte can indeed be a way to meet girls if you are decently looking and not too old.

Chill Bill
08-27-10, 23:42
http://erosvkontakte.com/

Looks to be the sexual-side of Vkontakte! Probably 90% fake/ads, maybe more. Anyway, I can't seem to activate my profile from the USA. However, maybe someone around here can check it out. If you do, let me know! :)

Pluto2
09-01-10, 15:27
http://www.dosug.cz

Found this one while surfing the Ukraine, I can't comment on their accuracy

AColonizer
09-03-10, 18:07
Yes, that's the typical site for Westerners. The reply about that and about prostitutes in Moscow you will find in my "on-live" reports in 2009. As said, Moscow is good for hunting regular girls if you speak a little Russian, otherwise time for prostitutes is just a waste, except if your firm is ready to pay your prostitutes three times more than your country of origin. Moreover, "agencies" managed by Westerners are too business-oriented: it could be logic if that is an "agency" for prostitutes (anyway, it is not honest), but it is actually tragic if that is an agency for dating and marriages where (American managed) agencies earn million dollars by scams.


http://www.dosug.cz

Found this one while surfing the Ukraine, I can't comment on their accuracy

Fg Dutch
09-07-10, 15:22
Hi all

In few weeks going to Sartatov, would like to meet some nice girls. Anyone knows girls or websites where I can find them?

I only found a few on http://www.rusdosug.com

Passepartout
09-12-10, 09:31
Guys,
This has been already discussed if i remember well, but i would like to collect some feedback or advises on that.
I have proposed to some girls to go with me on vacation abroad 1 week...i pay the flight tickets, hotel and food. In exchange, i have a nice company, with all included.
Only one so far has answered, and i will meet her next week probably.
I am a little bit unconforable with this meeting...ae we supposed to have sex before I buy tickets and so on? Or it will be only once we are there? Am i suppose to give to her some cash every day for her personal expenses or some gifts?
Any suggestion / report of past experience is more than welcome!
Thanks

Prosal
09-12-10, 12:28
Guys,

This has been already discussed if I remember well, but I would like to collect some feedback or advises on that.

I have proposed to some girls to go with me on vacation abroad 1 week. I pay the flight tickets, hotel and food. In exchange, I have a nice company, with all included.

Only one so far has answered, and I will meet her next week probably.

I am a little bit unconforable with this meeting. Ae we supposed to have sex before I buy tickets and so on? Or it will be only once we are there? Am I suppose to give to her some cash every day for her personal expenses or some gifts?

Any suggestion / report of past experience is more than welcome!

ThanksI've flew a Russian girl, that I met through LL, to Thailand this summer, but we had been talking for three monthes and really meshed well in any respects. Furthermore, it was my idea and if I paid for all the expenses on site, she paid for her own ticket Moscow/BKK.

Anyway I would have not get it done with a girl I would have not have been sure we meshed well and that I knew she was not too greedy or mercenery. Spending a whole week of sex vacation with a girl requires also intellectual and emotional harmony IMO.

Stravinsky
09-12-10, 16:06
are we supposed to have sex before I buy tickets and so on? Am i supposed to give to her some cash every day for her personal expenses or some gifts?Ppt,

First of all, I don't think you are "supposed" to do anything. Generally speaking, it's not possible to have sex first, because you won't meet the girl until you arrive at your destination. But if both of you live in Moscow and you have a chance to meet before your trip, why not?

Every Russian girl will expect cash and gifts, that's why she's taking a trip with you. Her job is to get as much as possible, your job is to give as little as possible, remembering always that the happier she is, the more you will enjoy your time together. So, it's a matter of managing expectations (hers).

I know there are many posts here about this subject, take a look in Dating Russian Women.

Gentleman Travel
09-12-10, 21:37
I have proposed to some girls to go with me on vacation abroad 1 week...i pay the flight tickets, hotel and food. In exchange, i have a nice company, with all included.
Only one so far has answered, and i will meet her next week probably.
I am a little bit unconforable with this meeting...ae we supposed to have sex before I buy tickets and so on? Or it will be only once we are there? Am i suppose to give to her some cash every day for her personal expenses or some gifts?
Who do you want making the rules? You or her?
There is no "supposed to", there is only your mutual expectations and negotiations.
This may be a first time for her also, or at least every deal may be somewhat different.
So you need to establish the rules based on your expectations and requirements.

But certainly if you have the opportunity to meet her before the trip you should expect/demand a sample of her sexual delights. If she is not going to put out for you to secure a trip to paradise, then how will she act when you are there and your bargaining position is dramatically reduced?

Also, I think conceptually you are not giving her a trip in exchange for sex - like giving her a washing machine or new coat in exchange for sex.
You taking a trip together (at your expense) because she seems like a sexy and fun companion. So you should establish if that is so.

About gifts and shopping, I think that depends on the percevied value of the trip.
If you are taking her some place special and exciting or luxurious, probably the trip alone will be enough.
If it is just a trip to a nearby major city, or if shopping is part of the attraction, then maybe you need to add some value.
Think of her as your girlfriend, who has no money of her own.
You take her on a trip - what do you need to do to treat her right and make her happy?

Passepartout
09-13-10, 22:16
thanks guys for the comments and help.

I will meet her tuesday night and will report her. The trip is in october (in china)

I met also 2 other girls this week-end, and we are supposed to go all together for vacation - every one pays its own part.
I am wondering if it could be also a good idea: on the girls, one is really nice and divorced; it will be a nice company. And we talked about booking a tour in an hotel but using a russian agency...So, i might be abroad, free time at night for mongering, hotel full of russians and even 2 girls for the visits during the day, with a small hope on one...

Start123
10-26-10, 08:07
Hi dear mongers,

I am curently writing to a lady in Russia that I met through Mamba. I am afraid she is scaming me since she is writting kinda standard mails.

If I recall right there is a webpage where one can submit a picture and this webpage will determin if the picture has been used in other webpages and is scam or not. Can anyone send me this link?

I am not publishing her picture here in case she is not a scammer.

Thank you for your help.

EasyeaseCan you call her? You ever used Skype? Maybe see her on cam?

Ask a specific question to see if she responds. Does she ask for money yet?

Jojosun
10-28-10, 22:41
Hi dear mongers,

I am curently writing to a lady in Russia that I met through Mamba. I am afraid she is scaming me since she is writting kinda standard mails.

If I recall right there is a webpage where one can submit a picture and this webpage will determin if the picture has been used in other webpages and is scam or not. Can anyone send me this link?

I am not publishing her picture here in case she is not a scammer.

Thank you for your help.

EasyeaseThe site is called tineye.com.

Joe Greek
11-16-10, 07:23
Are the girls in photos actual girls you see, or most fake pics?

I've been looking for a site that offers specfically anal sex. this one does.

Any intel out there?

Stravinsky
11-17-10, 17:54
Joe,

If you need to look at English language sites, you should be looking at rusdosug.com or dosug.cz. Those are your best bets.

And, no, not all the pix are real, on any site. You will have to do a little work on your own.

Anastasia777
11-28-10, 12:42
Very good site.

The beautiful Lady!

http://eliteindependent-escort.com

Passepartout
11-29-10, 22:17
guys, just to tell you that intimcity.ru was closed by the russian authorities (police), but they have reopened it under the name intimity.nl...

the tricky thing that i really dislike is that i have received on my phone, which is my professional one, this information by SMS, signed by "intimcity"....how they have collected my phone number is a mistery but be careful to the one who wants to stay deep under cover.

Stravinsky
11-30-10, 05:39
but they have reopened it under the name intimity.nl...
Actually, it's intimcity.nl

Passepartout
11-30-10, 06:17
yes right.

Chill Bill
12-21-10, 19:09
Actually, it's intimcity.nlCan someone tell me if this site is worth it? Are the 'reviews' real? Are the girls photos real? Thanks!

- Bill

Stravinsky
12-22-10, 17:16
Yes, intimcity.nl has the ISG Russia forum seal of approval.

Ffmbud
12-28-10, 23:53
As I was very busy during the day and early evenings, I took the easy way out and surfed the recommended site, rusdosug. Com and went with someone that had verified comments on her. She was great! Superb English and not a clock watcher at all, even came out at 4am for a 2 hrs rendezvous. I recommend. BTW she collect fridge magnets that has locations example names of places and so on.

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi45473.htm

I also called another without verification and ended up with a woman twice the size and not even a slim resemblence to the photo, so advice is to stick with the ones with comments that verify what you see is what you get.

Stravinsky
12-30-10, 06:20
I took the easy way out and surfed the recommended site, rusdosug.com and went with someone that had verified comments on her. м о л о д е ц! Congratulations on your success with rusdosug. There are a lot of excellent women on the Russian internet sites, at reasonable rates, if you're willing to spend a little time doing the research.

Chill Bill
01-06-11, 06:18
If you don't know Russian, what is the best way to arrange a meeting with these girls? I guess find someone to call them for you. But, is that the only option? Also, how are these girls when it comes to responding to SMS messages on the phone numbers provided? Are they mobile numbers?

Finally, what does "No Exit" mean on some of the girls profiles?

Thanks!

Chill Bill
01-06-11, 06:25
What is the difference on intimcity of "Apartments" and "Exit"? I would like the girl to come to me in my Apartment. Which of these choices is the one for me?


If you don't know Russian, what is the best way to arrange a meeting with these girls? I guess find someone to call them for you. But, is that the only option? Also, how are these girls when it comes to responding to SMS messages on the phone numbers provided? Are they mobile numbers?

Finally, what does "No Exit" mean on some of the girls profiles?

Thanks!

Chill Bill
01-06-11, 06:38
Sorry. Need some more translation help for intimcity.

What does 'Barback gum' mean? Oral without condom?

What does 'Lesbian frank' mean?

Horn Dog
01-06-11, 06:47
What is the difference on intimcity of "Apartments" and "Exit"? I would like the girl to come to me in my Apartment. Which of these choices is the one for me?Incall and Outcall.

Stravinsky
01-06-11, 08:07
What is the difference on intimcity of "Apartments" and "Exit"? I would like the girl to come to me in my Apartment. Which of these choices is the one for me?The word "vuiyezd" can mean exit, but in this sense it's more like "to go out". If you're looking for out call, you want the exit girl. As opposed to the girls who only work in an apartment and you have to go to them.

Not sure I understand what you mean by 'Barback gum' 'Lesbian frank'.

C1234
01-06-11, 19:32
http://erosvkontakte.com/

Anyone has used it?

Buckinup
01-06-11, 20:46
My understanding is that bareback gum is oral without condom.

Lesbian frank means "hardcore" rather than the other lesbian option where you get two girls, but they are not really going to do any real sex with each other.

Chill Bill
01-07-11, 00:58
'Barback gum' and 'Lesbian frank' was how it was translated by Google. I think. Anyway, I think I understand it. .


The word "vuiyezd" can mean exit, but in this sense it's more like "to go out". If you're looking for out call, you want the exit girl. As opposed to the girls who only work in an apartment and you have to go to them.

Not sure I understand what you mean by 'Barback gum' 'Lesbian frank'.

Vincelee76
01-07-11, 09:21
thanks guys for the comments and help.

I will meet her Tuesday night and will report her. The trip is in October (in China)

I met also 2 other girls this week-end, and we are supposed to go all together for vacation. Every one pays its own part.

I am wondering if it could be also a good idea: on the girls, one is really nice and divorced; it will be a nice company. And we talked about booking a tour in an hotel but using a Russian agency. So, I might be abroad, free time at night for mongering, hotel full of russians and even 2 girls for the visits during the day, with a small hope on one.Hello,

I think you might have made a mistake. In China, there is a whole bunch of girls. Heck, at any city, you can ask a taxi driver, they will take to you to mama sans house and for an hour you can shower, get blow jobs, and hot sex with 18 to 25 year old sexy girls all for about 120 RMB (US $16 dollars). You just need to stay away from the hotel girls they charge US prices.

Why would you want to bring a girl to China? Why bring sand to the beach? Why bring food to a restaurant? Why bring water to the pacific ocean? Why bring trees to a forest? You are being silly.

Please leave the your girls at home. And meet cheaper, prettier, girls overseas, they will put out for you. Anything you want for very cheap prices.

Helena Moscow
01-13-11, 11:29
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Stravinsky
03-12-11, 17:50
Go to www.intimcity.nl

Click on ...

Поиск по: Параметрам (Search on parameters)

In the drop-down box titled...

Место встречи (Place of meeting)

Select one of the following...

выезд в квартиру (Outcall to apartment)
выезд в гостиницу (Outcall to hotel)
выезд в сауну (Outcall to sauna)
выезд в офис (Outcall to office) That's a new one for me. I guess guys are getting BJ's at work??

You can also qualify your search by

Возраст (age) enter a low and high range in years

1 час (price for 1 hour) enter a low and high range in rubles

Down at the very bottom of the form you will see...

Отзывов на Sextalk, не менее (reports on sextalk, not less than) enter at least 1

Press...

Найти

and select from the list of dyeffki. At the bottom of her form you will see...

Отзывов на Sextalk (reports on sextalk)

click on this and you should see a list of her reports on sextalk. Click on one of her reports and Confirm that she's the same girl as reported on in sextalk. Scroll down to the bottom of the report and read the ...

Оценка (scores)

If she gets 4's or 5's, you can be pretty sure she's OK. The higher the scores, the better your chances.

Samsungskruf
04-06-11, 00:15
Anyone managed to register as a "Real user" at mamba.ru from abroad?

When I enter my phone number, I never receive the registration code!

Pushkin13
04-07-11, 13:40
Anyone managed to register as a "Real user" at mamba. Ru from abroad?

When I enter my phone number, I never receive the registration code! Yes, I am a real user.

Make sure that your phone number contains the correct international area code, if you are contacting from outside Russia.

I received a reply within about 10 seconds (using a non-Russian number).

Just my experience.

P13

SeekingSex
04-16-11, 10:53
I have same problem, don't get the code on sms. Norwegian number.

Please help someone.

Tomcat2
06-18-11, 10:42
Hi Guys,

I contact about 200 girls on Mamba last week. Only 10% of girls reply back. After reading some old posts, a few guys said that they got lots of letters. Am I an unpopular guy online? How can I get more replies?

Thanks

Prosal
06-18-11, 15:45
Hi Guys,

I contact about 200 girls on Mamba last week. Only 10% of girls reply back. After reading some old posts, a few guys said that they got lots of letters. Am I an unpopular guy online? How can I get more replies?

ThanksAbout 10% is a normal answer rate for mamba. Keep in mind that a hot girl can get up to 100 messages and winks each day, most of them she doesn't even open. I am not joking. One of my GFs showed me her account one day.

Personally, I target top girls (those that I rate 8 and above) and to boost the answer ratio, always join a compliment (1 to 3 virtal coins each) to my message. It could seem corny, stupid or useless, but with this strategy, I have almost a 100% ratio answer (which doesn't mean that the conversation will go further, but still, an answer is better than nothing).

Also to have a VIP status allows you to stand out in the crowd. IMO mandatory on mamba.

I also put a big emphasis in my profile on my knowledge and interest in Russian culture. To appear like someone who is not there "solely" for a sex quest boosts your position.

Stravinsky
07-10-11, 15:41
Haven't been able to access sextalk.ru for the last 24 hrs. Got this message today:

По техническим причинам форум не работает. Попробуйте зайти чуть позже. Приносим свои извинения.

For technical reasons, forum does not work. Try again a little later. Please accept our apologies.

Prosal
07-11-11, 17:21
Anybody knows how to delete "compliments" on mamba?

Got three (flowers) from three different girls those past days (for the simple reason that I myself send compliments to girls I think I can build the best attraction with) , but having this kind of things on your profile is IMO like shooting yourself in the foot. When other girls look at your page they might think you're a babnik (womanizer).

Shit, I sweat on it since one hour but can't find any way to do it.

Stravinsky
07-12-11, 16:26
Got three (flowers) from three different girls those past days

Shit, I sweat on it since one hour but can't find any way to do it.[Non-English text deleted by Admin]

Poor Prosal, worried about having too many girls?

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Prosal
07-12-11, 16:54
Poor Prosal, worried about having too many girls?Well, I just don't want to appear like a babnik, which I'm not. (wink)

Stravinsky
07-13-11, 06:17
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Poor Prosal, worried about having too many girls?

EDITOR'S NOTE: If you wish to post text in any language other than English, then please include a full English translation. Thanks! Jackson,

I did.

You allow the guys on Argentina Private to post common Spanish phrases. Why not Russian?

Excepticus
07-14-11, 06:43
Anybody knows how to delete "compliments" on mamba?

Got three (flowers) from three different girls those past days (for the simple reason that I myself send compliments to girls I think I can build the best attraction with) , but having this kind of things on your profile is IMO like shooting yourself in the foot. When other girls look at your page they might think you're a babnik (womanizer).

Shit, I sweat on it since one hour but can't find any way to do it.You can cancell your profile and restore it later. It worked for me. But I lost also some coins. So be careful as I did it time ago and they are changing things all the time

Prosal
07-14-11, 08:45
You can cancell your profile and restore it later. It worked for me. But I lost also some coins. So be careful as I did it time ago and they are changing things all the timeSpasibo. I am going to try that when my coins will be finished; just bought some 130 this week though, so it could take time.

Excepticus
07-15-11, 06:53
Well, I have seen some emails of colleagues complaining of their results with mamba. Let's say they ar enot happy with their scoring.

For me works pretty good and it's my main source of girls. Like everything in life. Depends how you use it. If you are 50 and you want to screw an 18 year old girl. You will have to dig for gold because ain't easy man.

Think that everybody put always the best pictures and lies on their age, height and weight. You will be surprissed the number of ugly ducks and cows flirting out there. Just make a simple exercise and select short ranges of age. For example 25-27. And you will realize they are looking for guys in theirs 35-40's who have a good standard of living.

If you want to screw a real gem. Works pretty much the same as if you meet them in the clubs. You need pictures in your profile of Seychelles, of your BMW or Mercedes, weekend in Paris and so on and on.

If talking about me. I rather prefer the MILFS. They are working, divorced and the only thing they are really looking for is spending nice time. They only need to feel that they make you hard. They only want to be desired, they still want to turn heads upon them. And I give them all that. I tell them they have incredible figure to have had a child, that they really look very sexy in heels and skirt. That their tits still point up. And those who live around. You know it's true. Russian women are HOT. I have predilection for Russian and Polish (Poland is also Known as LOPA. Land Of Perfect Ass)

So. Stop complaining and work a little harder. Moscow is plenty of horny women. Doesn't matter their age. But the social transition times have ended long time ago. Moscow is a metropoly like any others. You can find anything you want anytime you want. And the girls also know it. They can choose the guy they want. We are always ready. You can see it in the clubs. So try to offer them something different. Add value!

Again. If you want something. Work for it. This is what I'm doing and have no complaint. But it's not enough to tell you are an expat. You will have to work harder.

Pro Boner
07-15-11, 21:40
This post is amazing Stravinsky. Used in conjunction with google website translator it gives non-Russian speaking visitors an amazing option for finding quality mongering experiences. My only problem is this. I'm visiting SPB and not Moscow. Intimcity only covers Moscow and I haven't yet found a similar SPB site that allows filtering on and links to reviews from sextalk. Ru. And as you posted later, rusdosug doesn't have this link. Do you know of one for SPB? The sextalk forum for SPB is much lighter than for Moscow but at least there's some info.

Thanks in advance!


Go to.

www.intimcity.nl

Click on.

&1055; &1086; &1080; &1089; &1082; &1087; &1086; : &1055; &1072; &1088; &1072; &1084; &1077; &1090; &1088; &1072; &1084; (Search on parameters)

In the drop-down box titled.

&1052; &1077; &1089; &1090; &1086; &1074; &1089; &1090; &1088; &1077; &1095; &1080; (Place of meeting)

Select one of the following.

&1074; &1099; &1077; &1079; &1076; &1074; &1082; &1074; &1072; &1088; &1090; &1080; &1088; &1091; (Outcall to apartment)

&1074; &1099; &1077; &1079; &1076; &1074; &1075; &1086; &1089; &1090; &1080; &1085; &1080; &1094; &1091; (Outcall to hotel)

&1074; &1099; &1077; &1079; &1076; &1074; &1089; &1072; &1091; &1085; &1091; (Outcall to sauna)

&1074; &1099; &1077; &1079; &1076; &1074; &1086; &1092; &1080; &1089; (Outcall to office) That's a new one for me. I guess guys are getting BJ's at work?

You can also qualify your search by

&1042; &1086; &1079; &1088; &1072; &1089; &1090; (age) enter a low and high range in years.

1 &1095; &1072; &1089; (price for 1 hour) enter a low and high range in rubles.

Down at the very bottom of the form you will see.

&1054; &1090; &1079; &1099; &1074; &1086; &1074; &1085; &1072; Sextalk, &1085; &1077; &1084; &1077; &1085; &1077; &1077; (reports on sextalk, not less than) enter at least 1.

Press.

&1053; &1072; &1081; &1090; &1080;

And select from the list of dyeffki. At the bottom of her form you will see.

&1054; &1090; &1079; &1099; &1074; &1086; &1074; &1085; &1072; Sextalk (reports on sextalk)

Click on this and you should see a list of her reports on sextalk. Click on one of her reports and Confirm that she's the same girl as reported on in sextalk. Scroll down to the bottom of the report and read the.

&1054; &1094; &1077; &1085; &1082; &1072; (scores)

If she gets 4's or 5's, you can be pretty sure she's OK. The higher the scores, the better your chances.

Stravinsky
07-18-11, 16:22
This post is amazing Stravinsky. Used in conjunction with google website translator it gives non-Russian speaking visitors an amazing option for finding quality mongering experiences.Mks123,

I'm glad you found it useful. Unfortunately no one can read your quote because Jackson has banned the Russian language from the Russia forum. I will never understand why the only language allowed in the "International Sex Guide" is English. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but there you have it.

To answer your question, I don't know of a similar website for Peter that will cross reference reports from sextalk. Ru. If you come across something, don't forget to post it here. It may help another fellow mongerer.

Assuming, of course, that Jackson doesn't delete it.

Stravinsky
07-20-11, 20:27
Stop complaining and work a little harder. Moscow is plenty of horny women. Doesn't matter their age. But the social transition times have ended long time ago.

If you want something. Work for it. This is what I'm doing and have no complaint. But it's not enough to tell you are an expat. You will have to work harder.Excepticus,

Some of the best advice I've read on mongering in Moscow (and Russia) in a long time. You truly understand the situation as it exists today and how best to deal with it.

Prosal
07-21-11, 10:49
If talking about me. I rather prefer the MILFS. They are working, divorced and the only thing they are really looking for is spending nice time.Couldn't agree more. Attractive Russian MILF that are sexually and emotionally starving are available ad nauseum. They usually don't expect a relationship to last forever, but just to enjoy the ride, and have no materialistic expectations. The most cosmopolitan of them also travel a lot, and can easily meet you in your hometown (supposing you live in an interesting city) or in exotic destinations.


They only need to feel that they make you hard. They only want to be desired, they still want to turn heads upon them.Agree again. Russian women don't only dress to impress, but also to charm. For me also, they are the bomb.


Work for it. Add value!+1. Learning about Russian women psyche and about Russian culture is the very first thing to do.

Gergiev
07-28-11, 05:58
Unfortunately no one can read your quote because Jackson has banned the Russian language from the Russia forum.

Why not Russian?Strav,

I have to agree with you.

I think Jackson jumped the gun on this one.

A lot of the Russian phrases you have posted are extremely useful to intrepid warriors around here.

Some latitude should be allowed as Russia is very challenging for a lot of people.

VG.

Stravinsky
07-29-11, 05:28
VG,

I understand you need to have a common language: can't have people posting reports in whatever language they choose, the result would be pure Babel.

But when you start deleting individual words and simple common phrases, it becomes almost like linguistic jingoism. If someone really wants to know the meaning, it's a simple matter of cut-and-paste into a Google search.

And, as you say, Russian is a special case. You can't just sound out the words, as you can in Spanish. First, you have to get past the Cyrillic alphabet and that requires some familiarity.

I feel sorry for all these guys who have been posting lately. Here they are in Moscow, the mongering capital of the world, and they can't get laid because they can't even read the street signs.

что делать будем?? (what will we do?)

Gergiev
07-30-11, 03:43
I understand you need to have a common language: can't have people posting reports in whatever language they choose, the result would be pure Babel.

But when you start deleting individual words and simple common phrases, it becomes almost like linguistic jingoism.Strav,

Totally agree.

I have a hunch this may simply be a reaction to Cyrillic script.

Eg, I and many others use / translate / explain recurring Deutsch phrases in the German sections and never a squeak out of the Generalissimo.

VG.

Prosal
07-30-11, 13:23
что делать будем?? (what will we do?)Strav, what is your trick to be able to post in cyrillic? Everytime I tried the system didn't allowed me to do so.

Stravinsky
07-30-11, 18:06
Strav, what is your trick to be able to post in cyrillic? Everytime I tried the system didn't allowed me to do so.Prosal,

Jackson has some kind of a filter turned on in the text editor which does not properly translate anything that is not a Roman character (like Cyrillic). What you see when you submit your post is the numeric equivalent of the character.

However, when you edit your post, this filter is not working. So, enter the Cyrillic text into your post, copy the text of your post before you submit it. Immediately after the post has been submitted, edit your post, delete what you just posted and then paste the original text back in to the edit window. Submit the edit and you should see your original text.

это очень просто !! (it's very simple)

Il Duca
08-08-11, 13:55
www.dosug.cz

Does anyone know this web site? It is dependable?

No has referenced this site as far as I see / read.

Jake993
08-08-11, 22:07
www.dosug.cz

Does anyone know this web site? It is dependable?

No has referenced this site as far as I see / read.Www.rusdosug.com

(a variant) Seems to be reasonably reliable from my experience. Cannot comment on other countries.

It Travel
08-09-11, 09:35
Prosal,

Jackson has some kind of a filter turned on in the text editor which does not properly translate anything that is not a Roman character (like Cyrillic). What you see when you submit your post is the numeric equivalent of the character.

However, when you edit your post, this filter is not working. So, enter the Cyrillic text into your post, copy the text of your post before you submit it. Immediately after the post has been submitted, edit your post, delete what you just posted and then paste the original text back in to the edit window. Submit the edit and you should see your original text.

&1101; &1090; &1086; &1086; &1095; &1077; &1085; &1100; &1087; &1088; &1086; &1089; &1090; &1086; ! (it's very simple) Many Thanks that was a good idea!

IT

PS look now that it has ben reprocessed in my comment!

It Travel
08-09-11, 09:59
Anyone managed to register as a "Real user" at mamba. Ru from abroad?

When I enter my phone number, I never receive the registration code!I did and got the code immediately.

You simply have to enter your mobile so:

+AAXXXYYYYYYY.

+ outland

AA land code one, two or three digits.

XXX the full mobile net (usually three digits)

YYYYYYY (mobile number usually seven digits)

No space, no brackets

IT

Unirii
08-10-11, 10:39
I gave Mamba a quick first try. Unfortunately I was short on time and didn't plan as far in advance as I should have. I'm young 30's and wrote 130 girls (ages 18 to 25) with a generic message and got 16 responses. Strictly regular girls (ie. No money involved). Only had a chance to meet with 3 of them as it was a very short trip. Slept with one on second date.

I only started writing one day before arrival. From my experience on other sites I should have begun about two weeks before to build comfort / familiarity.

Anyway, curious as to how the response rate (12%) compares to what others have experienced. Keep in mind these were purely un-targeted messages. Cut and paste. 5 seconds each.

Dogger862
08-10-11, 12:11
I gave Mamba a quick first try. Unfortunately I was short on time and didn't plan as far in advance as I should have. I'm young 30's and wrote 130 girls (ages 18 to 25) with a generic message and got 16 responses. Strictly regular girls (ie. No money involved). Only had a chance to meet with 3 of them as it was a very short trip. Slept with one on second date.

I only started writing one day before arrival. From my experience on other sites I should have begun about two weeks before to build comfort / familiarity.

Anyway, curious as to how the response rate (12%) compares to what others have experienced. Keep in mind these were purely un-targeted messages. Cut and paste. 5 seconds each.Based on my experience (been a regular user since '08) that's not a bad response rate given the parameters you described, and for Moscow based girls. If you were in the provinces then it might be a little low. I'd expect a 25% hit on a generic message for provincial girls.

The Mamba database (I use it through Rambler) has been good to me, hope it continues to work for you.

Cheers

Il Duca
08-18-11, 14:39
So, I joined Mambo. Ru.

I received the status confirmation and off I went. After noting several ladies of interest, I realized that I needed to purchase coins in order to communicate with the various ladies. No problem.

I purchased 25 Euro worth of coins. Not a bad price. I sent out about 125 "emails" and received back nearly a 50% response. GREAT. Many telephone numbers, a few private emails which I wrote to and received additional pictures and detailed info of services.

Here comes the Kick.

36 hours into my PAID membership, my account is BLOCKED. I wrote the support staff, no response. I wrote the billing company. They responded back that "Mambo. Ru can stop service at any time for any reason. Sorry."

Any body had this happen to them?

Any thoughts on how to un-block account?

Thanks.

Stravinsky
08-20-11, 16:00
I purchased 25 Euro worth of coins. Not a bad price.WOW! 25 Euro? And this is a good price? Can I buy stock in this company?

If you get tired of dropping Euros into the Mamba slot machine, try omen (dot) ru. It's not as big as mamba, it's a quieter, gentler kind of place. But there are still plenty of young dyeffki looking to hook up with men for money and, it won't cost you anything to connect with them.

Il Duca
08-20-11, 19:04
WOW! 25 Euro? And this is a good price? Can I buy stock in this company?

If you get tired of dropping Euros into the Mamba slot machine, try omen (dot) ru. It's not as big as mamba, it's a quieter, gentler kind of place. But there are still plenty of young dyeffki looking to hook up with men for money and, it won't cost you anything to connect with them.The point was not 25 Euros, the point was I thought it suspicious that within 36 hours of getting my money, they locked the account and absolutely no response for now almost a week. Other have used this site with success I suppose, I just think that strange.

Prosal
08-21-11, 10:10
The point was not 25 Euros, the point was I thought it suspicious that within 36 hours of getting my money, they locked the account and absolutely no response for now almost a week. Other have used this site with success I suppose, I just think that strange.I buy a lot of virtual coins on mamba and never ever had a problem. It is IMO a very reliable site.

Prosal
10-05-11, 16:49
Just discovered that there was a (new?)"dating" tool on mamba, that is a place organized as a calendar and by city, and where girls look for coffee, dining or clubbing dates (and where men offer coffee, dining or clubbing dates for that matter).

http://love.mail.ru/placecard/?day=2&location=3159_4312_4400_0

Seems useful. Anyone used it already?

Prosal
10-05-11, 17:25
About my last post.

Found the page (dating requests calendar) through a girl's profile. On her page, she has a "dating" space with a link, just above her "interests" questionaire. But I have nothing of this on my page, and I can't find any link to this tool on the mamba front page.

Weird.

Gergiev
10-06-11, 03:58
Just discovered that there was a (new?)"dating" tool on mamba, that is a place organized as a calendar and by city, and where girls look for coffee, dining or clubbing dates (and where men offer coffee, dining or clubbing dates for that matter).

http://love.mail.ru/placecard/?day=2&location=3159_4312_4400_0

Seems useful. Anyone used it already?Sounds intriguing, Prosal.

Personally, I like the illusion (or delusion if you like) of "the chase" regardless of success or not.

Something like this could be a 'little or no obligation' way of meeting strangers of the opposite sex for a little reconnoitring with a view to future fun and games.

But I see where you're coming from on this one, old boy.

A lot of the women on the page you've provided are of that 30+ vintage that you and I have harvested, from time to time... :)

VG

Prosal
10-06-11, 10:19
Sounds intriguing, Prosal.

Personally, I like the illusion (or delusion if you like) of "the chase" regardless of success or not.

Something like this could be a 'little or no obligation' way of meeting strangers of the opposite sex for a little reconnoitring with a view to future fun and games.Seconded. I also like dating Russian women, even if it doesn't lead (immediatly) to sex. They are usually great and witty conversationalists. And as you say, the thrill of the "game" is sometimes more captivating than the (often foregone) conclusion. I kind of see it as a chess game.

Found the link BTW:

http://love.mail.ru/placecard/

Tony66
10-06-11, 23:37
So, I joined Mambo. Ru.

I received the status confirmation and off I went. After noting several ladies of interest, I realized that I needed to purchase coins in order to communicate with the various ladies. No problem.

I purchased 25 Euro worth of coins. Not a bad price. I sent out about 125 "emails" and received back nearly a 50% response. GREAT. Many telephone numbers, a few private emails which I wrote to and received additional pictures and detailed info of services.

Here comes the Kick.

36 hours into my PAID membership, my account is BLOCKED. I wrote the support staff, no response. I wrote the billing company. They responded back that "Mambo. Ru can stop service at any time for any reason. Sorry."

Any body had this happen to them?

Any thoughts on how to un-block account?

Thanks.This happened to me also once. Luckily I wrote don't the most precious phone numbers.

I told the story to my credit card company, and they got all my money back.

It is strange, but Mamba does not have any form of costumer service. But the site is a goldmine for me.

RussianSwan
12-03-11, 05:14
Hi,

My name is Anya. I'm a beautiful, educated and sensual young lady, classically trained ballerina, hot, refined, electric, intelligent. If you are a foreign gentleman searching for a casual encounter in Moscow, if you desire to see a combination of beauty and culture in your partner, I'm the right match for you. Exciting, fun and good company at any time of day and night, for any occasion. My images are fresh and genuine, you'll get who you see, a true nymph who loves pleasure.

http://russianswan.escort-site.com

Hbengkok
12-15-11, 09:35
I did and got the code immediately.

You simply have to enter your mobile so:

+AAXXXYYYYYYY.

+ outland

AA land code one, two or three digits.

XXX the full mobile net (usually three digits)

YYYYYYY (mobile number usually seven digits)

No space, no brackets

ITYes, I also never get the activation code. I have done the hp number correctly (abroad / not Russian). So there's a email that because I did not complete registration, my profile cancelled or so. Reply to mamba, but failed.

Gentleman Travel
01-05-12, 19:46
I thought I would cross-post this from a related thread.

Anyone have suggestions for alternative sites?


LL has gone downhill. It is only the shadow of what it used to be. There is much better "East meets West" sites currently.Which ones please?

I haven't used LL for a while, but it certainly was pretty good a couple of years ago. At least for meeting "real" women.

The beauty of it is that it was focused on east meets west, as opposed to Mamba, which has a lot of girls, but only a fraction are interested in western men.

Gentleman Travel
01-05-12, 20:12
Probably not really news to anyone here, but I thought I would just report a recent experience with Mamba.

I recently reactivated my profile, having had a longish fallow period of EE travel.

Naturally, I had to upgrade to VIP in order to have any reasonable search facility.

But then I found I was 52, 000+ on the list of men."Women have trouble finding your profile" was a repeated warning.

I went along like this for a week, just proactively targetting women generated by my search, but my profile was not getting any hits or unsolicited attention.

So today I clicked one of the "raise your profile" options. Costs $1. The difference is huge!

First, it bumps me to the very top of the list, then I start to get all kinds of "views" and messages from girls, some of whom would not have shown up on my searches, but are highly desirable.

Of course, there is also a certain amount of unwanted attention from profiles of hags and dogs.

And also, as the hours tick by, my profile sinks deeper and deeper down the list.

At some point I will need to reinvest if I want to maintain my visibility, but I will do that sparingly.

Of course, whether you need visibility depends on what you are looking for, and how open you are to variation on your criteria.

Something to keep in mind is that many girls profiles are not up front about what they are looking for (surprise!).

For example, sponsorship. If you search based on "I want to find a sponsor" you are likely to get mostly pros, whether pink profiles or not.

However, many "ordinary" girls are also looking for sponsors, and they are more likely what you are looking for also.

So they need to be able to find you.

But it certainly seems worthwhile to spend a few bucks in the run-up to any visit to generate a few new leads.

Chill Bill
01-06-12, 03:20
Hello! I know that Mamba is flooded with fake girls. As much as there are real girls. Has anyone ever attempted to meet with one of the 'Top-100' girls? Or, any of the super hot VIP girls? I'm just curious as I typically pass right over them thinking they are all fake and not worth the effort. Thoughts / comments?

Prosal
01-07-12, 11:26
Naturally, I had to upgrade to VIP in order to have any reasonable search facility.VIP status is IMO mandatory, it sends the right message. The message that you are not a stingy and useless foreigner not even able able to spend 20$ to stand out in the crowd.

I also sometimes offer VIP to some girls (younger ones, usually broken students with who I have built a good attraction) , it doesn't ensure their loyaulty of course, but they have always been highly grateful, and never forgot to write me from time to time even if I haven't sent messages for a while.

Raising your profile is a good idea. I always do it. It allows to a girl who intends to visit your city (or who have an interest in it) to find you immediatly. I've been contacted many times by girls planning to visit Paris.

Prosal
01-08-12, 13:18
Hello! I know that Mamba is flooded with fake girls. As much as there are real girls. Has anyone ever attempted to meet with one of the 'Top-100' girls? Or, any of the super hot VIP girls? I'm just curious as I typically pass right over them thinking they are all fake and not worth the effort. Thoughts / comments?The "top" mamba girls are the least likely to meet foreigners IMO. They already have dozens of outrageously wealthy locals at their feet begging to please them.

Rtyrolia
01-22-12, 19:56
Just visited Moscow for 5 days and thought I share my experience with you, tried 4 different Russian escort agencies / independents all completely shocking either fake pictures or just interested in ripping me off. So gave up until talking to a barman in the hotel who gave me the details of a Western agency / directory that has offices and escorts in Russia. Gave them a ring and checked their site, it was a different world Victoria was so helpful organised my escort, my dinner reservation and basically my whole evening and the escort was stunning, had the time of my life and cost was the same as the local agencies but the class was out of this world. Worth trying them next time your in Russia or any where in Europe. Here is the link.

elite escorts (http://www.premiumjetset.com)

Gentleman Travel
01-26-12, 15:47
Anyone have views on the usefulness of Badoo as a prospecting system in Russia?

I recently was persuaded to join the site to converse with a girl who preferred it to Mamba.

I guess it is better than Facebook, because it features some dating information (age, location, sometimes language skills) but overall it does not look great as an East-West dating site.

And it is filled with all kinds of Facebook-like crap.

Anyone with real experience on Badoo?

Gentleman Travel
01-27-12, 16:11
I have been playing around on this site a bit and it looks like it might be a good place to meet foreign girls in western cities.

Many of the girls there who now live in my city seem to be Eastern European or Latin American.

Many list a wide age range for men they want to meet. So they may be open to sponsorship arrangements or other incentives.

However, these might all be scammers. Too early to tell.

Skwiskwis
03-30-12, 22:13
I've been visiting St Petersburg and using Mamba so I'll chip in my opinion on the site. A quick cataloging: 1. In over two years I've gone thru 4 or 5 profiles (because of being deleted) and never bought the VIP, never sent a girl a gift, never given a girl VIP and never noticed it have the slightest effect on whether I met or did not meet a girl (the girls on the site who are there to escort are there to escort, not receive Mamba gifts).2. In my opinion 60-70% of the profiles are salons and use "bait and switch" pics (fake pics intended to get you to go to the salon where you will find the girl you wanted has "just left," "is "busy," etc). After a girl replies to my initial post, my second post is always either "salon?" or "Are the photographs real?" You can write the former in English and the latter I write in Russian. After asking this. 70% of the time, I don't receive any reply. 3. In two years and countless back and forths with Mamba members, I have found one "jewel" with whom I continue to meet to this day. I've met with a few other contacts from Mamba, but none of them lived up to their pics or they had bizarre personalities which I got tired of dealing with. 4. Let me confirm what others have posted: many Russian girls now have no interest in meeting foreign men. There are many Russian businessmen now who are much more appealing to Russian girls. The days when a Westerner could waltz into Russia and have girls slobbering all over him are long gone. This is true in the clubs and on Mamba.

As far as my Mamba profiles being deleted goes, I have no clue as to what the logic is. Just recently I had my profile deleted while I was exchanging messages with a girl. I wrote to them and asked why it was deleted, and got a reply back stating my profile was restored and not to "break the rules again" (without telling me what rule I had broken). As near as I can tell, they will delete profiles for giving or asking for phone numbers, email addresses, during a full moon, etc, even though contact info is given out all the time.

To be honest, I don't consider Mamba a primary source for girls or even a very useful one. I'll check it out occasionally, and write to girls whose pics I like, but I don't have big expectations. I already know a few girls in St Petersburg with whom I meet with, so I don't fret over it if I don't find anyone new on Mamba. For my last visit, I used Mamba and one of the adult video chat sites to try and find a new girl. I chatted with and met a pretty girl from the adult site, while Mamba produced nothing except frustration, as a red headed girl who I liked in terms of looks turned out to be too much of a head case to associate with. Let me also add a bit of irony. At one time I had met with two girls from an adult video site who worked in St Petersburg. Later I noticed that they were on Mamba! The last time I met with them and asked them if they were still on Mamba they both said no, their profiles had been deleted!

Skwiskwis
05-04-12, 15:35
I'm visiting St Petersburg now and occasionally trolling on Mamba. A quick update on the newest (to me) Mamba scams, in no particular order (though the first is my new favorite).

1. Girl with average pics (these usually get my hopes up, as they might be legit). Quick exchange of messages. Then, much to my surprise, she tells me she is deaf and will soon lose her internet connection (she's accessing from her phone). Will I please put some money on her phone so we can arrange the details of our meeting. We must arrange our meeting via SMS of course, because she is deaf and cannot talk on the phone. I was curious about this one I must admit, so I put 100 rubles on her phone (about 4$). Afterwards, I communicated with her on Mamba, and she was outraged. She wanted at least 1000 rubles (30$). In Russia. 100 rubles buys you a lot of SMS, bye the way.

2. Variation on previous, this time with a girl who has drop dead gorgeous pics (obvious red flag, but what the hell, maybe, just maybe, she's real, right?). This one's story is: "I'd love to meet you, but I'm a student and in Moscow but in 3 days I can meet you in stpb. I have run out of money on my phone would you please put 3000 rubles (about 100$) on my phone as a birthday present?" After I say no, I'll only give her money at the meeting, I expect her to drop the conversation, but much to my surprise, she continues to send me messages,"Don't you want to meet," "Don't you want to give me a birthday present," and finally, after I say again "money only in stpb," she writes "send me 3000 are now!" (her exclamation points). Addendum: this girl just wrote me again! This time stating she won't have any money on phone to contact me when she arrives in stpb. Please send 3000.

3. Another new one is more a pseudo scam. There seem to be an increasing number of profiles that advertise virtual sex. However, one girl I was negotiating with did not mention virtual sex until well into the conversation, after I thought we had come to an agreement. Finally she wrote,"But before I can meet you we must have virtual sex."

4. And finally, I've also encountered a few (2-3 if memory serves) who will negotiate with you and, again, right at the end, announce they want 30% or some prepayment via WU or such. I guess the idea here is that once you have been writing with them and have come to an agreement your more likely to put up the money she she got your expectations aroused (pun intended).

Navigate Mamba and all such sites with care!

Spanish Fly
05-07-12, 14:38
As far as my Mamba profiles being deleted goes, I have no clue as to what the logic is. Just recently I had my profile deleted while I was exchanging messages with a girl. I wrote to them and asked why it was deleted, and got a reply back stating my profile was restored and not to "break the rules again" (without telling me what rule I had broken). As near as I can tell, they will delete profiles for giving or asking for phone numbers, email addresses, during a full moon, etc, even though contact info is given out all the time. To be honest, I don't consider Mamba a primary source for girls or even a very useful one. I'll check it out occasionally, and write to girls whose pics I like, but I don't have big expectations.Well. Mamba has gone a little (or more) bit down the toilet during the last few years, but I have been around for 7 years now (quite active there, BTW) and NEVER got my profile deleted or blocked. I had a couple (in 7 years!) warnings because some silly girl complaint on me after the FIRST! . Introductory message. But nothing more.

And I also don't agree with your percentage numbers. If you look for normal girls, and reject the super-professional pictures of super-nice girls, your chances are rather good. At least, I have met a significant number of girls in different cities in Russia and Ukraine. And if I haven't met more is usually for severe schedule problems (too many girls, so little time.) But my taste is the young Russian next-door type, not the crazy-glamurous selfish and only-good-for-one-thing moskovite, so maybe that helps. But general rules also aplies in mamba. Be nice, corteous, and OF COURSE, unless you are looking for a pro or semi-pro girl, drop the contact inmediately if the girl makes ANY suggestion about money, even small money, for telephone etc, specially before meeting.

But I am not Brad Pitt at all and slightly over 40, and with no so much time invested A FEW WEEKS prior any trip to Russia, I get more dates than I have available time for. Of course, when you date them in person, the rest depends on you. If you are not into the pro-scene (and in Russia, I am definitely NOT) , if you date a girl, and she agrees to see you again a second time, 99% you will get laid. If you don't have time or energy for a second date (and you are not lucky enough to find a first-nighter) , go for the pro scene. But if you play your cards more or less ok, you will only have to do that in your first night in town. .

Oh. One personal advice. At least works wonders to me. Prepare AT LEAST. 4-5 dates for each "scouting" day / evening (yes, girls trend to change their minds, have sudden illness, etc, you don't want to put all your eggs in the same basket). Start dating girls EARLY (at 5-6pm if your work schedule allows) , JUST for a coffee / tea at some cafe (any Chocolatnitsa or similar would do, if you are in Russia you know what I am talking about) and just tell her upfront that you have a business meeting later. Later on, If you like the girl, ask her to see her again later in the evening for dinner / drinks / club. If she says yes, and you are lucky enough, that could even "count" as second date. If she can't meet later, she is not so keen about it, you don't like the girl so much, or simply, she doesn't show up (not SO uncommon) , just walk away and kill the time with your computer or ipad, checking out your messages on mamba, etc until your next date of the day arrives.

Next to some of the old senior members of this forum (DOC, Stravinski, etc.) I am just little more than a newbie, but after several years coming regularly to Russia on business, experience pays back, and things get easier and BETTER than ever.

Best luck to all members and enjoy the hunt! I can't wait to be there again in two weeks.

SF

Spanish Fly
05-07-12, 14:51
Hello! I know that Mamba is flooded with fake girls. As much as there are real girls. Has anyone ever attempted to meet with one of the 'Top-100' girls? Or, any of the super hot VIP girls? I'm just curious as I typically pass right over them thinking they are all fake and not worth the effort. Thoughts / comments?I have met a few of them in the past, but NEVER in Moscow. Moscow is just too crazy, and, like some other members already said, they have tons of locals begging at their feet. But outside Moscow is a different story. They still have locals, SURE, but forget about competing with them with your wallet (not very recommended unless you have a very very VERY fat wallet) , but with your savoir-faire. Your class, your experiences. Average Russian (with few exceptions) are the opposite of the typical gentleman. If you want my advice, there is where we are still interesting for those slavic beauties. Wealthy sex-partners. They can find locally. No problem. But interesting, corteous and experienced gentlemen. Hummm, not so easy.

For that, you just need to keep yourself away of the 18-22 want to-be-a-model (or an oligarch wife, or a porn star if anything else fails.) girl. There are a lot of normal girls in Russia. ALSO in Moscow, but there you just need to dig a little deeper.

Salud!

Gentleman Travel
05-07-12, 15:02
I recently played along with a Mamba scammer who was better than most I have encountered.

This is a typical scammer scenario. Girl contacts you with pretty (but not racy photos) and with the minimum response on your side, decides that you and she have a relationship.

Sends photos and formulaic letters every few days, detailing various aspects of her life (work, family, interests, etc.).

Usually I don't bother with such things, but I guess I was bored and had no prospect of getting to Russia any time soon, so I played along just to see when and how the hook would come.

As I say, this girl was better than most, because while normally they don't even read the reply letters and just bulldoze ahead with their set pattern of letters, this girl would weave a reference or response to my last letter in her next one. Unless my response was too hot to handle, either demanding sexy photos or casting doubt on her authenticity. Then she would just ignore my message, wait a few days and send a letter filled with sunshine and pretty photos, hoping that I would forget my doubts. If I just got bored and stopped responding she would wait a week and send a tearful "what's wrong" letter.

This went on over at least 16 exchanges (each one with photos) over 2 months or more. So she was very patient.

The end game came in two stages. First she "told her parents about us" and they were very happy for us, etc. So she baits the guilt hook.

Then she announced the "good news" that she had asked her boss at work for a few weeks off and could come to visit me on such and such a date.

No requests for money for anything yet.

When I demurred, and explained that it would be much better for me to visit her in St Petersburg on my next visit (with a proposed time a few months hence) she dropped the correspondence. Which surprised me. She had been pretty patient and tenacious thus far, I was surprised she did not keep the game up a little longer, proposing to keep to her travel plans, or suggesting we meet half way or something. Or appear to acquiesce, and wait for me patiently, while drawing out the "sick mother" gambit. I guess she could tell I was not going to fall for anything, or reread my earlier skeptical letters.

Anyway, it was interesting to see the whole thing unfold and watch her little devices to overcome the roadblocks I put in her way.

I wonder how many guys they work at a time and what kind of success ratio they experience?

To Mamba's credit, they pulled her profile after a couple of days, which would have tipped me off if I did not already know from message #2 that she was a scammer.

Sean EZ
05-08-12, 20:35
Most mamba profiles that respond right away with "come now here is the number, here is metro station, coming?" are bait and switch. Don't even bother. Just happened to me yesterday where girl assured me it was her and her pictures and not a salon. I went up to be greeted by two dogs. I was on alert when I called first and a sleepy voice told me how to get there and then a different voice on the phone answered once I got off the metro with detailed directions with a background that sounded like she was on a metro. Once I went up one of them was doable but I was pissed off already. They told me, come on, it's Moscow, you were talking with a dispatcher. There is no recourse, I just said bye and left. Beware. In my experience if you meet a mamba girl she will be willing to meet in a cafe etc if she's independent in need or extra money. Then try adding her Vkontakte to see if she's for real or even facebook. Again, don't be fooled by a promise that the pics are genuine and not a salon. If you are looking for a salon, there are plenty, and some have been reviewed. In Moscow in my view it's easier to pick up a girl at a club, for example Rai is not bad (though has gotten worse lately in terms of quality). But you can tell many girls there are approachable.

Skwiskwis
05-08-12, 22:33
two nights in a row now i've come onto mamba late at night and found unsolicited messages from me: last night and again tonite. two diffrent profiles contacting me. in the contact info, age listed as 18. after short conversation, both girls reveal their ages to be 15, both aggressive in inviting me to their apartment, refuse to meet in neutral territory. once they say they are 15 i cut off communication. seems to me likely police entrapment, looking to catch the unwary and light them up with a ****philia charge. beware.

Sean EZ
05-10-12, 00:25
two nights in a row now i've come onto mamba late at night and found unsolicited messages from me: last night and again tonite. two diffrent profiles contacting me. in the contact info, age listed as 18. after short conversation, both girls reveal their ages to be 15, both aggressive in inviting me to their apartment, refuse to meet in neutral territory. once they say they are 15 i cut off communication. seems to me likely police entrapment, looking to catch the unwary and light them up with a ****philia charge. beware.scary. i think it's 16 the cutoff in russia but i would not advice anyone unless the girl is 18+

Skwiskwis
05-10-12, 11:27
in the first example, the next day i checked and the profile was deleted. however, with the second, after i stopped communicating with the "girl" in the night, the next day i found she had written me asking if i had "changed my mind and would meet her at her apartment." i think the red flag here is that both profiles identify themselves when they exchange messages with you that they are "15" (and in the second profile she states she is 15). it's just a guess, but i think if you arrange a meeting in russia with a 15 year old for the purpose of sex, then you are breaking the law. however, if the girl identifies herself on mamba as 18 or older, and you arrange a meeting, you are not if she has been lying (unless you do meet her and she is really 15 and you still want sex. obviously if you found a cop waiting he probably wouldn't be 15 or even female). i have no idea if this is true or not, but i've never, after over 5 years of trolling mamba, had a girl write to me first, ask to meet, and claim to be 15. and in the space of a couple of nights, it happened twice. so maybe the police have some kind of mandate now to check out the social networks and try and catch guys hoping to connect with **** girls. here is the description the second profile has (it is still up as of this post):

russia, saint petersburg.

18 years, scorpio

Spanish Fly
05-10-12, 22:26
I think the red flag here is that both profiles identify themselves when they exchange messages with you that they are "15" (and in the second profile she states she is 15). It's just a guess, but I think if you arrange a meeting in Russia with a 15 year old for the purpose of sex, then you are breaking the law. However, if the girl identifies herself on Mamba as 18 or older.I surfed the internet a little bit. But I kindly ask for the wisdom of this forum. Maybe this has been covered before here, but honestly, I couldn't find it. I will say it plain. As far as I have been able to find reliable sources, if you are 19 (or 25, or 39!) and you have sex with a 16 y.o. girl or OLDER you are ok (please, no easy moral here, we are ONLY talking about local laws in Russia). No 18 like in most hollywood movies, in Russia the minimum consenting age is 16. Has ANYBODY had direct or well documented experiences about this matter? There is a bit of confusion out there. Me included! I have been approached by a few VERY VERY mature and interesting 17 y.o. girls in the past, and I always rejected the approach (ufffff, not that easy, believe me!!!), or patiently waited for her upcoming birthday (also no easy...). I wonder if I was just being foolish. I hear all the time stories from girls (friends, normal girls, no crazy street workers) whose first experiences were at 16 or 17 with some 25 (or 33) y.o. man.

Any good documented advise?

Good hunt!

SF

Climaxnow
05-10-12, 22:32
I surfed the internet a little bit. But I kindly ask for the wisdom of this forum. Maybe this has been covered before here, but honestly, I couldn't find it. I will say it plain. As far as I have been able to find reliable sources, if you are 19 (or 25, or 39!) and you have sex with a 16 whyear old girl or OLDER you are ok (please, no easy moral here, we are ONLY talking about local laws in Russia). No 18 like in most hollywood movies, in Russia the minimum consenting age is 16. Has ANYBODY had direct or well documented experiences about this matter? There is a bit of confusion out there. Me included! I have been approached by a few VERY VERY mature and interesting 17 whyear old girls in the past, and I always rejected the approach (ufffff, not that easy, believe me!) , or patiently waited for her upcoming birthday (also no easy.). I wonder if I was just being foolish. I hear all the time stories from girls (friends, normal girls, no crazy street workers) whose first experiences were at 16 or 17 with some 25 (or 33) whyear old man.

Any good documented advise?

Good hunt!

SFSuppose she's a forced prostitute, how are you going to argue consent? Just don't go there friend.

Spanish Fly
05-11-12, 18:00
Suppose she's a forced prostitute, how are you going to argue consent? Just don't go there friend.Thanks for the advise. I don't say that I will follow that path, but I want to know where I am standing. And about forced prostitutes. It is easy. Not going with prostitutes at all (at least with very young ones). I mean, not going for paid sex at all (which is my position, anyway, in 95% of ocassions)

Bimbo Boy
05-11-12, 18:42
i surfed the internet a little bit. but i kindly ask for the wisdom of this forum. maybe this has been covered before here, but honestly, i couldn't find it. i will say it plain. as far as i have been able to find reliable sources, if you are 19 (or 25, or 39!) and you have sex with a 16 whyear old girl or older you are ok (please, no easy moral here, we are only talking about local laws in russia). no 18 like in most hollywood movies, in russia the minimum consenting age is 16. has anybody had direct or well documented experiences about this matter? there is a bit of confusion out there. me included! i have been approached by a few very very mature and interesting 17 whyear old girls in the past, and i always rejected the approach (ufffff, not that easy, believe me!) , or patiently waited for her upcoming birthday (also no easy.). i wonder if i was just being foolish. i hear all the time stories from girls (friends, normal girls, no crazy street workers) whose first experiences were at 16 or 17 with some 25 (or 33) whyear old man.

any good documented advise?

good hunt!

sfyes it's local laws, but you can still be brought to justice under your own national laws (europe, usa, etc). if caught, your will be branded for your whole life as a sexual offender.

furthermore, under these conditions you are very vulnerable to possible blackmail. i can imagine the scenario: i am a mafia thug. i beat a 15 yo girl and i use her as a bait on websites. i record all email and skype exchanges you have with her. i organize your sex encounter with her. when you are naked in the room with her, i come with friends disguised as cops. we take pictures of you naked with the minor girl. we beat you up, maybe [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you a little, take your money and your passport. i present you with the evidence and i ask you for a couple thousand $ monthly payments ... or else. may be i am even friend with the local cop chief and i have you stay in a dirty jail cell for a whole week . with half a dozen victims like you, i can live in luxury ... it is unlikely that the victims will complain to the police.

my personal rule: stay at a distance from under 18yo girls, whatever the country.

Spanish Fly
05-11-12, 23:27
yes it's local laws, but you can still be brought to justice under your own national laws (europe, usa, etc). if caught, your will be branded for your whole life as a sexual offender.

furthermore, under these conditions you are very vulnerable to possible blackmail. i can imagine the scenario: i am a mafia thug. i beat a 15 yo girl and i use her as a bait on websites. i record all email and skype exchanges you have with her. i organize your sex encounter with her. when you are naked in the room with her, i come with friends disguised as cops. we take pictures of you naked with the minor girl. we beat you up, maybe [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you a little, take your money and your passport. i present you with the evidence and i ask you for a couple thousand $ monthly payments. or else. may be i am even friend with the local cop chief and i have you stay in a dirty jail cell for a whole week. with half a dozen victims like you, i can live in luxury. it is unlikely that the victims will complain to the police.

my personal rule: stay at a distance from under 18yo girls, whatever the country.and it is probably a good advise! but please, read my original post. i said 17 (probably 17. 5!.) not 15. second, i am not planning to do something dirty or obscure with some homeless pre-pubescent girl. third, in my country (like in so many european countries) , the number is also 16 (not 18 like in the us) or lower. to be even more specific, in spain is as low as 13 (and no, i have never fucked a 13 whyear old girl simply because i can under my own law). and last but not least. even if i appreciate your sincere and kind answer, you have a real vivid imagination and (sorry if mistaken with this) little or no experience in russia (cops, mafia, etc.). if you really want to fuck a 15 (or 14 or 13) whyear old girl, russia is probably one of the countries to do it, if you know how to deal with local police in case anything goes wrong. (buddy, i am no tourist in russia. i have had business here for a good number of years now). but, anyway, this is not my thing. please, let's not go off-focus here. i just want to know the technicalities of the law in russia, in case i would get romantically involved with a 17. 9 girl and would decide not to wait for the "magic day" when she becomes legally fuckable under us laws (and not even all states, but only some of them.).

anyhow, thanks for the answer and the advise.

good hunt,

sf

Chill Bill
05-12-12, 15:09
Anyone use intimcity. Nl recently? If so, how was it?

Also, I would like to have the girl come to me. In my hotel or apartment. Is this considered 'Exit'?

- Chill

Spanish Fly
05-12-12, 17:01
Anyone use intimcity. Nl recently? If so, how was it?

Also, I would like to have the girl come to me. In my hotel or apartment. Is this considered 'Exit'?

- ChillTry sextalk.ru (using google chrome translation capabilities) and choose girls with ratings of 4+ and above.

And yes, of course. There are only two options. Incalls (salon, or her flat) or outcalls which covers pretty much anything else.

Good hunt.

Bimbo Boy
05-12-12, 22:52
And it is probably a good advise! But please, read my original post. I said 17 (probably 17. 5.) not 15. Second, I am not planning to do something dirty or obscure with some homeless pre-pubescent girl. Third, in my country (like in SO many European countries) , the number is also 16 (not 18 like in the US) or lower. To be even more specific, in Spain is as low as 13 (and no, I have never fucked a 13 whyear old girl simply because I can under my own law). And last but not least. Even if I appreciate your sincere and kind answer, you have a real vivid imagination and (sorry if mistaken with this) little or no experience in Russia (cops, mafia, etc.). If you really want to fuck a 15 (or 14 or 13) whyear old girl, Russia is probably one of the countries to do it, if you know how to deal with local police in case ANYTHING goes wrong. (Buddy, I am no tourist in Russia. I have had business here for a good number of years now). But, ANYWAY, this is NOT MY THING. Please, let's not go off-focus here. I just want to know the technicalities of the law IN RUSSIA, in case I would get romantically involved with a 17. 9 girl and would decide NOT to wait for the "magic day" when she becomes legally fuckable under US laws (and not even all states, but only some of them.).

Anyhow, thanks for the answer and the advise.

Good hunt,

SFSF, points well taken.

The blackmail scenario I described was actually used in Brazil, I just can't find the press article. But it could happen anywhere, even in FSU countries.

Yes, I do not know Russia, but I know well Ukraine, and I probably speak better Russian than you do. True, if you have good business connexions, then cops are not an issue.

Acaso, eres español o latino-americano?

Regards.

Sean EZ
05-13-12, 14:25
Mamba has gotten worse lately. It's hard to weed out through fake vs real profiles etc. Is there perhaps a newer dating website lately?

Prosal
05-13-12, 17:11
Is there perhaps a newer dating website lately?There is (for genuine girls) , Prosal's guaranty. Nonetheless I don't really want to publicize this best kept secret publicly.

Check your PM.

Sean EZ
05-14-12, 10:09
Mamba now sucks in my view because you talk with a girl, agree to meet, then they start put some money on my phone etc. It's scam. As soon as you hear that or an offer of virtual sex, just ignore them. It just takes a long time now to meet the right girl. It's not a problem meeting girls in Moscow everywhere especially in clubs I find it easiest. But I don't want to take them out on dates, everyone wants to date. I would rather convince to a girl to accept 'gift' in exchange for sex. This way there is no misunderstanding and no hurt feelings. Mamba used to be that, I find it hard now, or is it just me. Also, as soon as they send generic message about the location and price. Don't fall for it, it's 99. 9999 bait and switch. I just wish they had a site with non pros looking to make extra buck.

Gentleman Travel
05-14-12, 19:06
two nights in a row now i've come onto mamba late at night and found unsolicited messages from me: last night and again tonite. two diffrent profiles contacting me. in the contact info, age listed as 18. after short conversation, both girls reveal their ages to be 15, both aggressive in inviting me to their apartment, refuse to meet in neutral territory. once they say they are 15 i cut off communication. seems to me likely police entrapment, looking to catch the unwary and light them up with a ****philia charge. beware.the other key is not to go to a lady's apartment unless you have a real relationship going with her. it is just an invitation to trouble. you are way way safer on your own territory.

also, i understand that you want to know the real story about age of majority, age for p4p, real legal situation, etc, but jackson has a rule about discussing under 18 sex, and we cannot have a discussion about that stuff here, even if just for "academic interest". it is just off limits here.

Spanish Fly
05-14-12, 22:20
The other key is not to go to a lady's apartment unless you have a real relationship going with her. It is just an invitation to trouble. You are way WAY safer on your own territory.

Also, I understand that you want to know the real story about age of majority, age for P4P, real legal situation, etc, but Jackson has a rule about discussing under 18 sex, and we cannot have a discussion about that stuff here, even if just for "academic interest". It is just off limits here.You are right. I completely forgot about that rule. And I have a deep respect for Jackson and his work here. It is his house, his rules. So, from my side at least, subject closed.

Salud!

SF.

Chill Bill
05-18-12, 18:40
Thanks for the advise. But, I'm not sure where to look in sextalk. Ru. It looks like a message board. Where can you find the girls and ratings?


Try sextalk. Ru (using google chrome translation capabilities) and choose girls with ratings of 4+ and above.

And yes, of course. There are only two options. Incalls (salon, or her flat) or outcalls which covers pretty much anything else.

Good hunt.

Chill Bill
05-18-12, 19:28
Oh, figured it out.)


Thanks for the advise. But, I'm not sure where to look in sextalk. Ru. It looks like a message board. Where can you find the girls and ratings?

Sean EZ
06-07-12, 09:33
Got email from mamba admins saying that they have eliminated "sponsor" checkbox etc my understanding in an attempt to cleanse it from p4p girls. So now I noticed some girls will put "looking for sponsor" in their description, but this does not help with detailed search. You can still use flirt which is same database and login, but doubt many girls know to use it though.

Sextalk is useful, it has different search criteria (you can search for age range, girls profiles and in reports). Idk if it's available in english though. I find it useful reading it to find out what's going on in areas other than Moscow.

Gentleman Travel
06-12-12, 18:33
Got email from mamba admins saying that they have eliminated "sponsor" checkbox etc my understanding in an attempt to cleanse it from p4p girls. So now I noticed some girls will put "looking for sponsor" in their description, but this does not help with detailed search. You can still use flirt which is same database and login, but doubt many girls know to use it though.

Sextalk is useful, it has different search criteria (you can search for age range, girls profiles and in reports). Idk if it's available in english though. I find it useful reading it to find out what's going on in areas other than Moscow.Boy, this is really bad news. For lots of reasons.

First, they did not just eliminate the "sponsor" and "willing to sponsor" check boxes, they also eliminated "offer sex for money" and, under "what you are looking for" (love, friendship, etc) they eliminated "sex" or "one night stand" as an option. And finally, they got rid of the sexual description data. Breast size, sex preferences, etc. WTF?

Oh, and now the "pink profile" is, I think, reserved for profiles with racy photos, although how that is organized I am not sure.

Now it will be very difficult to search for appropriate women, and to screen out inappropriate women. Surely the P4P girls will still be there, but now harder to distinguish from the other girls (wide age range seems to be the best indicator now). I don't even know what to look for now. Do we describe looking for sex with no commitment "flirtation" or "love" or "dating"?

Far better to permit everyone to use categories that describe what they are REALLY after, than to force people to hide their true agenda. Sure many people misused the categories to portray themselves a bit differently, but now EVERYONE (well, monger and pros at least) will need to pretend.

Why the hell would mamba do this? If they felt they needed to "clean up" the P4P usage to become a more white-bread dating site, it would have made more sense to migrate that activity to a special section or sub-site, or to monetize it with special fees to list and search in those sections.

I wonder if another dating site will now try to attract that part of the business? Sure there are lots of escort sites, probably too many to end up with one clear leader, but mamba had the advantage of numbers and lots of girls who were not exactly pros but were prepared to dabble in the world of P4P. Interestingly, they still seem to offer "rip loose" as an option in the Fellow Traveller section.

Skwiskwis
06-12-12, 23:45
The "sex" search option has been replaced by "fun." It's just semantics. "fun" on Mamba means "sex for money." However, Mamba, from my completely unofficial and unauthorized survey, has more bait and switch and cyber sex profiles on now more than ever.

Gentleman Travel
06-13-12, 15:06
The "sex" search option has been replaced by "fun." It's just semantics. "fun" on Mamba means "sex for money." However, Mamba, from my completely unofficial and unauthorized survey, has more bait and switch and cyber sex profiles on now more than ever.I don't see this option. I see Friendship, Love / Relationship, Flirtation, Marriage, Have Kids and Travel Together.

Is "Flirtation" your "Fun" option? Maybe it is a question of translation into various languages.

Could one of our Russian scholars comment on the Russian word being used. What will it mean to Russian women?

Stravinsky
06-13-12, 16:48
On the home page of mamba.ru, the English search parameters are;

friendship
love
marriage
fun
traveling

the Russian search parameters are;

дружба (friendship)
любовь (love)
брак (marriage)
секс (sex)
путешествия (traveling)

So, in Russia, sex is sex. In English it's just fun. I imagine most Russian women would agree with that, I know I do. ;)

Gentleman Travel
06-14-12, 15:05
I don't see this option. I see Friendship, Love / Relationship, Flirtation, Marriage, Have Kids and Travel Together.

Is "Flirtation" your "Fun" option? Maybe it is a question of translation into various languages.

Could one of our Russian scholars comment on the Russian word being used. What will it mean to Russian women?Actually, it gets stranger.

When I look at the "mamba.ru" site, I see what I described above, and "flirtation" appears to be the same word in Russian (but virtually no one has selected this option).

But when I look at the "date.ru" site (using my same profile) I see that options that Stravinsky describes above. In fact "fun" is accompanied by a wink ";)" to remove any doubt about what is meant.

Equally, the "date.ru" site still has all the old "one-night stand" and "sex for money" options, and under income the "sponsorship" option, and the whole sexual preferences section. All of which are absent from "mamba. Ru".

I wonder if it is just a matter of time before "date" gets sanitized like "mamba" or if they are going to use mamba more as a white-bread dating site and leave date. Ru for sex maniacs like us (and the lovely girls who reciprocate)?

But for now I will stick with DATE.RU!

Prosal
06-21-12, 14:48
This pic give a good indication of the number of hunters on mamba.

A upper-average girl with good photos can receive hundreds of messages, winks, gifts (admittedly more rare) , etc, this each day.

Chercheur
07-09-12, 16:41
Mamba does not work as it used to.

Happily I have bookmarked a good number of debouchkis that can be of interest, and they are still there, but the way it works now I can't find new ones.

Does anyone how to make it work better? Or another site that is as good as mamba was?

Is sx-mamba any good? So far I have not been able to complete registration.

Belvaros
07-09-12, 22:09
I find ww. Vk. Com better in EE countries now than the aforementioned mamba. Ru, or the western European badoo etc.

Vk. Com after some wading through the celebrity fringe seems to attract a more civilized, educated piece of ass for my old cock.

Gentleman Travel
07-10-12, 14:55
I find ww. Vk. Com better in EE countries now than the aforementioned mamba. Ru, or the western European badoo etc.

Vk. Com after some wading through the celebrity fringe seems to attract a more civilized, educated piece of ass for my old cock.I looked at Vkontakte. Ru in the past and figured it was too hard for a non-Russian speaker to use.

But now they seem to have an English template. Maybe they always did and I just missed it.

But also it looks so similar to Facebook, and FB is pretty difficult to use for dating. You can't do searches and get the same kind of profiles as on mamba or other dating sites.

Does Vkontakte have some functionality that FB does not?

Latexian2
07-11-12, 03:40
I looked at Vkontakte. Ru in the past and figured it was too hard for a non-Russian speaker to use.

But now they seem to have an English template. Maybe they always did and I just missed it.

But also it looks so similar to Facebook, and FB is pretty difficult to use for dating. You can't do searches and get the same kind of profiles as on mamba or other dating sites.

Does Vkontakte have some functionality that FB does not?Yes there is a big difference. Vkontakte allows you to search by location, age, sex, and relationship status. So you can search for girls 18-22 in Kazan who are "actively searching" for a relationship AND are now on the site. You can't do that on facebook.

One thing I've learned is that vkontakte has stupid presents, they cost something like $0. 25 each but if you give one to a girl and then add her she is more than 50% likely to add you as a friend. That's especially true for younger girls, probably not so much the 22+ girls since they realize it's kind of childish. It's a stupid waste of money, but it signals to the girl you spent some money (I guess like VIP mamba status). I hate wasting money on such silly things but it does lead to a MUCH higher response rate so I do it sometimes.

When I'm going to a new town I'll search on vkontakte, find some hot 18-22 year olds and do that. Often their friends will then add me as they are curious to chat with a foreigner and get a present as well. From their it takes some work to convince a girl to meet with you.

Altogether though you get much more normal girls than with mamba, although of course having an English-speaking gold digger can be a good thing if you can talk your way into her pants. It's harder with a Russian-speaking girl who wasn't looking for a foreigner in the first place, but those are the more fun girls IMHO.

But on vkontakte you have to weed out more, since the vast majority of girls are not on there to meet foreigners. If you're a foreigner never having spent much time in country and looking for English-speakers it's too much work, but if you're used to going to Russian night clubs and hitting on normal girls there, it's a very similar game. Many will be interested in chatting with a foreigner, although they aren't the type that dream of marrying and moving in with you.

Still in terms of genuine normal and hot girls who aren't approached by 10 or more guys per day, vkontakte is a great resource. I find girls on there that are "my type" that are very happy to be getting attention from me and reciprocate by writing me when I'm not online. I've arranged over 20 meetings with vkontakte contacts.

The really big advantage with vkontakte are the sheer numbers of girls. If you pick a town of 50,000 people in the former soviet union, usually it will have more than 15,000 people registered on vkontakte. Less than half will be girls (say 40%) but still you're talking about 5000 or more girls, who are mostly young (since older people don't use the internet so much). That's more than you can possibly search through and message. And that's for a small town that on mamba might, MIGHT have just 1 or 2 girls registered. It's really a great way to get a pulse for a place and get to know some normal people.

One thing I will say is that I've ruined a few towns by friending a bunch of girls (say more than 30) from that town, who then think you're a player (which is true of course). As always in smaller towns anonymity is much harder to maintain and on vkontakte all friends lists are public, so everyone can see who is friend with everyone else. I've had good leads in a town I wanted to visit only to have girls tell me in a club that they had already heard of me and how I was a bad guy from their friends, all before I even set foot in that town! In the larger towns/cities that's not an issue though.

Prosal
07-11-12, 12:39
on vkontakte all friends lists are public, so everyone can see who is friend with everyone else.That is the question I asked myself. There is in the "privacy" menu an option "Who can view my hidden friends", but I've never found how to hide friends (or better, the whole list).

Prosal
07-11-12, 13:10
One thing I've learned is that vkontakte has stupid presents, they cost something like $0. 25 each but if you give one to a girl and then add her she is more than 50% likely to add you as a friend. That's especially true for younger girls, probably not so much the 22+ girls since they realize it's kind of childish. It's a stupid waste of money, but it signals to the girl you spent some money (I guess like VIP mamba status). I hate wasting money on such silly things but it does lead to a MUCH higher response rate so I do it sometimes.This is a strategy I also apply on mamba. I inevitably send a "gift", usually a flower (one virtual coin) , with each letter. It boosts the answer ratio to almost 90 per cent.

Jonners
07-11-12, 17:12
Yes it is possible. You have to be on the computer you can't do from an idevice go into Privacy. Who is visible in my list of friends. Then to the right is an all users html link click on that and you will have the options you want. Then also underneath you have who can view my hdden friends. Again click on all users and change.

Be careful not to hide all your friends or else it will look like you don't have any which can be as big a curse as too many female friends!


That is the question I asked myself. There is in the "privacy" menu an option "Who can view my hidden friends", but I've never found how to hide friends (or better, the whole list).

Skwiskwis
07-18-12, 03:40
VK, as has been noted, is a predominately eastern European, Russian language, social networking site. It is not by any stretch of the imagination a find a girl for sex site and you will largely waste your time if you try and use it as such. Russian girls there do not as a norm communicate with strange guys who write them, Russian or foreign. The "gifts" you can give there are largely jokes that friends share. While you will find absolutely drop dead gorgeous girls there, they will largely have no interest whatsoever in meeting with a foreigner. In fact, they will probably have no interest in even chatting with you much less adding you as a friend. Why? Because, their friends list will have their friends from school, their family members, etc, and all these people will be curious who the "foreigner" is (male) on the girl's list and the girl will not want such people to think that she is engaged in an illicit relationship or be interested in explaining who you are and why you are "friends". Having written this, let me add you can find Russian "porno" stars and models who advertise on VK, and you can even, if you look hard enough, find some of your favorite Russian amateur porn actresses, past and present. The professional porn stars and models will be happy to add you (and note they will have thousands of "friends") but not meet you and if you find one of the amateur girls she will likely react in horror that you have found her "real" identity (again, you will have found her friends, family, etc who may not know she did porn). I have been using VK for years as a professional site and have a few thousands "friends" on it, many of them university age girls. And the dynamic on VK is just not for sex, it really is for social networking. Rambler and Mail. Ru have more of that kind of sex "dating" gong on, but you will need to understand Russian to use them.

Prosal
07-18-12, 19:17
VK, as has been noted, is a predominately eastern European, Russian language, social networking site. It is not by any stretch of the imagination a find a girl for sex site and you will largely waste your time if you try and use it as such. Russian girls there do not as a norm communicate with strange guys who write them, Russian or foreign. The "gifts" you can give there are largely jokes that friends share. While you will find absolutely drop dead gorgeous girls there, they will largely have no interest whatsoever in meeting with a foreigner. In fact, they will probably have no interest in even chatting with you much less adding you as a friend. Why? Because, their friends list will have their friends from school, their family members, etc, and all these people will be curious who the "foreigner" is (male) on the girl's list and the girl will not want such people to think that she is engaged in an illicit relationship or be interested in explaining who you are and why you are "friends".I agree on most of that, except on one point: IMO Russian girls have very little respect for their fellow countrymen, be it guys who are on their so-called VK "friend list". A foreigner on their "list" is no big deal if this one has an acceptable profile. IMO Latexian was spot on. VK is a good tool, IF you have the right profile. Potbellied and white-haired sex-starved maniaks with no awareness in Russian culture won't do it of course.


I have been using VK for years as a professional site and have a few thousands "friends" on it, many of them university age girls.Tell us more. So if I understand correctly, most Russian girls are reluctant to have foreigners profiles on their VK profile, but YOU have "a few thousands of girls" who accepted you. Hum. OK. How many scores in those few thousands? Which city seems for you the best for non-pro scoring? Please tell us anecdotes involving lots of booze and drunk girls. It would be also nice if you could elaborate about nighlife in this or that city, as about your own perpectives about Russian women psyche. Ect ect. Spasibo (rolleyes)

Prosal
07-18-12, 19:41
I don't have big experiences in Moscow. I've only been to Moscow a few times. My work usually takes me to St Petersburg.
I already know a few girls in St Petersburg with whom I meet with
I have a few thousands "friends" on it, many of them university age girlsWithout being challenging, I'd like to understand. Just for the sake of it. In April, despite the fact you obviously perfectly know the place, you only knew "a few girls in Piter that you already met". But now you "have a few thousands girls on VK". So on those "few thousands", you met only "a few"?

Skwiskwis
07-19-12, 11:36
"Professional" (I. E. Work) contacts (the many on VK) and then girls I meet for sex in Piter or elsewhere in Russia (the "few," none of whom I met on VK). Now, sure, given the contacts I have I could certainly spend pleasant time in the company of a gorgeous girl I casually know (who will probably bring along a friend or two or three) via work but, hey, I'm looking to get laid in Russia not stroll the parks and discuss Russian football or visit the girls home and spend the evening with her and her friends and parents while they practice English. Work is the vehicle that permits me to visit Russia; when I have free time I want decadence, and that just ain't possible via VK. My personal experience with VK is that to troll it as a monger site your going to have to be very patient and persistent, know at least some Russian and have some knowledge of Russian culture, and have certain sadistic tendencies, as you will have to convince the girl you are not who you really are: in other words, you will have to be convincing that your NOT a monger, but instead are somehow a really cool guy, sensitive, with disposable income, but for some tragic reason can't find a girl in your own country or even a girl thru your work or whatever reason brings you to Russia and instead, despite being a really cool guy, have to use the internet and VK and isn't it just the best of luck that you found her. Complicated role to play. You can't just open with the Mamba or Rusdog line "Hello I'm a very nice foreigner visiting Russia soon let's meet?" Maybe it's a monger time / energy equation: for me, the time and energy it would take to try and seduce a girl on VK is just not worth it, particularly since your meeting almost exclusively "normal" girls whose idea of "meeting" you will be to spend the day at the Hermitage or meet you at a club where you will spend the night ogling her and the friends she has brought along, all the while buying them drinks. I understand that some people still harbor this fantasy that girls in Russian are just waiting for their foreign prince to arrive and sweep them off their feet, and while that may have been somewhat true in the immediate post Soviet years, it is not true now. Looking to get laid in Russia is one issue, and there are many places to scout; looking to get laid and have the girl fall in love with you or have her consider you her savior is sadistic AND, more to the point, time consuming.

Prosal
07-19-12, 17:22
Looking to get laid in Russia is time consuming.And spamming VK to the point to have "a few thousands girls on your friend list" isn't time consuming? (rolleyes)

Climaxnow
07-19-12, 22:16
I understand that some people still harbor this fantasy that girls in Russian are just waiting for their foreign prince to arrive and sweep them off their feet, and while that may have been somewhat true in the immediate post Soviet years, it is not true now. Looking to get laid in Russia is one issue, and there are many places to scout; looking to get laid and have the girl fall in love with you or have her consider you her savior is sadistic AND, more to the point, time consuming.I don't believe the above statement. The girls are there, it just takes time to locate them. Most guys don't have the persistence. Not every foreigner has that ability to click with Slavs, even if they are white and professional.

Jake993
07-20-12, 08:22
i don't believe the above statement. The girls are there, it just takes time to locate them. Most guys don't have the persistence. Not every foreigner has that ability to click with slavs, even if they are white and professional.100% agreed!

Skwiskwis
07-20-12, 12:43
I'm not exactly sure why the comment that I have a few thousand VK contacts has struck a nerve with some on this list. If you know anything about VK, then you know that a few thousand contacts is not unusual on VK and hardly worthy of "the sky is falling" reaction (unlike FB, VK has no limit on the number of contacts you can have) , especially if you've used VK for a long time and if you visit Russia and the Ukraine frequently and publicize your VK and FB addresses on your business card and if you use VK as both a business and social site (VK is pirate city, dudes, a true wild west social networking site where you can find almost any song and or video. Even, if your are lucky, in English) , yada yada yada. Get over it. Number of contacts does not = penis size. We aren't competing for who has the most. Besides, the point I was trying to make is that VK, in my opinion as both a monger and a long time VK user, is that VK is not a useful site for sex contacts. Despite my claim that I have a few thousand contacts (yes, many, but not all of them university age girls) I have never found that VK produces sex contacts. The girls I do meet in "real" from VK want to (gag)"meet": chat, practice English, show me the city, walk by the Narva, take me to the every night New Year club, the every night Marriage club (seems they think these are clubs foreign visitors will like) or, if the girl has a dark side, Jopa Club (Jopa = "ass" in Russian, it's a real dive) , but not have sex. They want to, OMG, be normal, play hostess and tour guide, have serious meaningful conversations, complain about their life, their bfs, their work, their futures. Get it? Large number of contacts on VK = squat, none, nothing, not a one, not a single. 0 sex contacts. If you want to spend your time trolling VK for sex partners, writing to "normal" girls who don't have a clue who you are and try to convince them your their internet Prince Charming, have at it, good luck, fare thee well, and then after you have met them and had sex with them regale us here with the stories of your VK conquests. So far, on this list at least, I have read about meeting girls from Mamba, Date. Ru, rusgdogs, sometimes from Mail. Ru and rambler, salons, misc websites that offer Russian prostitutes, clubs and video sex sites. This list of mongers who visit Russia is not full of VK sex meeting stories, despite the fact that VK hosts tens of thousands of gorgeous East European girls and has been around a long time. Why? Because mongers have only today discovered VK? Nooooo. Because VK is not some untapped source for booty. It really is a Eastern European social networking site, it really is full of "normal" people and their friends and families and business contacts and if you write them and they don't have a clue who you are they are going to do what any normal person would do in that situation.

Latexian2
07-20-12, 23:13
I'm not sure what we are all debating here, I think everyone is on the same page. Vkontakte is a normal social networking site that people go onto to chat with friends, not to find foreign husbands, so it's not full of working women or those seeking sponsorships. What it does have are a lot of useful tools that let you search through the database in ways that are impossible with sites like Facebook (by location, age, and relationship status.).

It's not a good tool if you want to get your dick wet within 12 hours of landing off a plane. It IS however a good tool to get to know normal Russian / Ukrainian / Belarussian girls if you have Russian-language communication skills. I've had lots of success finding girls, who I then met up with in country, and a few I slept with. It's something you can do to line up some girls before you go.

For instance after meeting with a pair of students on vkontakte and video chatting them one Friday evening last year, I met up with them a month later when I was in country visiting and we immediately went shopping for wine / vodka / etc. And then we headed immediately to my apartment to party. It was a way to skip the whole "pick up routine" on the street or in a club.

So for me it's a nice compliment to trying to pickup girls in night clubs. And I have met some girls from VK who are open to sponsorships, but it is a very small number (less than 5%).

It does not replace mamba if pros are your thing, but it's a useful tool to add to the toolbox. You won't find pros (there are no "pink profiles" like on mamba) but it is a lot better than facebook is in the USA in terms of dating, and I have met many women who I first friended on VK. As with all internet dating, only fools invest a lot of time talking to a single woman thinking that this is "real" communication. The goal is always to use a shotgun approach and arrange meetings ASAP. What you want to do is invest no time on VK but use it as a gateway into meeting. It can be efficient for that purpose.

Prosal
07-21-12, 08:09
Despite my claim that I have a few thousand contacts (yes, many, but not all of them university age girls) I have never found that VK produces sex contactsThey want to, OMG, be normal, play hostess and tour guide, have serious meaningful conversations, complain about their life, their bfs, their work, their futures. Get it?Large number of contacts on VK = squat, none, nothing, not a one, not a single. 0 sex contacts.No, sorry but I don't get it. Casual sex is common as ever in Russia. And a date is a date, wherever you hited on the girl: in the street, in a Mall, on a dating site or on a social networking site. If a Russian girl agrees to meet you, chances are high, if you play your cards right and if you have the right "game", that you will fuck her sooner or later. And most often sooner than later. Personally I fuck 90% of the Russian girls I meet. And I have never met a girl who wanted to "play hostess and tour guide, have serious meaningful conversations, complain about her life, her bfs, her work or her future". All the Russian girls that I've met and scored just wanted a fun, passionate and hot adventure with an appropiate guy. And most didn't expect it to last forever, but just to enjoy the ride.


I'm not exactly sure why the comment that I have a few thousand VK contacts has struck a nerve with some on this list.Admittedly, if it's true, to have "a few thousands" girls on his FB or VK "friend list" sounds weird. That said, I'm not shrink, so I won't elaborate about it.

What strikes a nerve is that you state that most Russian girls are reluctant to have foreigners on their VK friend list, but YOU have "a few thousands of girls" who accepted you. The hidden meaning is that you are both in your looks and in your style worth to have as a "friend". But still, you admit that you have scored none of those few thousands, even the ones that you have dated. You'll agree that all this sounds weird.

Anyway, instead of debating of such futile things, and as you say you spend a lot of time in Piter, what about an elaborated report with your perpectives about the current "in" nightlife there?

Thanks in advance.

Skwiskwis
07-23-12, 10:30
I think we can all agree to disagree about who has whatever number of contacts on whichever social site and whether or not, in English,"many girls" has the same meaning as "all of them are girls." But, just to make everyone even more jealous, I know a colleague from India who has over 6000 VK contacts, and, guess what? Many of them are Russian university girls. As for any marvelous conquest stories I might contribute to this list, alas, it ain't going to happen, at least not yet. Maybe, I hope, one day I will have a story list worthy. Until that day, I live vicariously on the postings of my more adventurous and fortunate monger colleagues here, who seem to be sucking up all the great adventures and leaving me only the detritus. My visits to Russia over the last years, compared to others on this list, have been, well, how to say, predictable? I can't dance a lick. I rarely drink. And when I am in Piter I am there for work and usually monstrously jet lagged. Imagination wanting sex, body wanting sleep. I don't go to clubs unless I am dragged there by a girl (I've been to a drum and base club on Nevski, the Jopa dive near Old Nevski, and the New Year Club and Marriage Club on Fontanka more times then I care to remember, each time because it was my hostesses idea of a good time for a foreigner). I've also been on the small boats that take tourists on canal trips more times than I can remember, and can tell you in advance where each of the "lucky" statues is, the stories about the "ghosts" in the fortress, etc. All stories not worthy of this site. No sex in the boats, no public sex, no chance meeting with a gorgeous babe on a boat or on the street. Woe is me. None of the clubs I have been to struck me as likely pick up clubs. All are very small and the majority of people I saw there were in couples or groups. Although the New Year and Marriage clubs do often have foreigners and if your looking for the dark side of the club scene in Piter then the Jopa is a good bet (but don't go alone and take a cab home, because if your walking on the small streets near the club your likely as not to get into an altercation with the drunk Russians hanging out in the small parks). I've never been to a salon in Russia, although I have, late in the night, horny as hell, arranged for girls to come to my apartment from a salon advertising on the internet and each time was a abject failure and I sent each girl away (two because they were too fat for my tastes and not the girls from the salon pics and the third, in person, looked and sounded like she had TB. And, to top it off, she stole a bottle of wine on her way out). The girls I have had successes with have all come from the video chat sites or sites like Mamba, as I mentioned in previous posts. I have the phone numbers of a few girls I met "back in the day" who will still meet with me if our schedules work out: if they aren't going to the family Dacha that weekend, if they don't have exams, if they can get away from their bfs, yada yada yada. I still occasionally take a shot at writing girls on camcontacts or streamray and also Mamba and date. Ru, and did meet a "new" girl last winter from streamray who seemed like a keeper, but, alas, after that first meeting she disappeared. These are the highlights. The details, as you might guess, would be very boring, as I've never had any all night bacchanals or orgies or mothers who brought their daughters or threesomes or anything other than occasional sex meetings of a few hours or all night and they weren't Olympic events or Caligula like. So, in conclusion, my Russian strategy goes something like this: before a trip to Piter I SMS or email girls I already know and have a good track record with. If I can arrange meetings in advance with one or more then I will. Failing that, or just because the devil takes control, I'll troll Mamba, date. Ru, etc and try and find a new girl to meet. And then, if I am in Piter and horny and alone, I'll revisit the online sites and try and hook up with a girl on the spur of the moment. If all else fails, I take a sleeping pill. And, as long as we are on the subject, has anyone used the stpetersburg escort site? The girls on that site are drop dead gorgeous (and the prices are outrageous)?

Prosal
07-26-12, 08:35
But, just to make everyone even more jealous, I know a colleague from India who has over 6000 VK contacts, and, guess what? Many of them are Russian university girls.There is absolutely nothing to be jealous about. At the contrary, this is rather pathetic IMO. An obvious symptome of deep self-insecurity. This reminds me this poster in the Kiev thread who brags about the so-called 1200 girls numbers he has in his mobile phone. I'm not shrink, but the first thing that comes to mind is that those guys try to reassure themselves by creating a busy virtual life, to hide to themselves the proverty of their own social, sentimental and sexual life.

Personally I have at max thirty girls (the girls I have built the best emotional and intellectual harmony with) on my FB friend list, and only one on VK. But I've fucked dozens over dozens Russian girls, and I know that when I'm in Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Uz, out on the town and with the right mood, chances are high that I get immediate results. I don't need "a few thousands girls" on my FB or VK friend list to know that I can be successful.

Jonners
07-27-12, 12:14
I have to say I agree with Prosal on this one anyone who has 6000 friends on either facebook or vk. Com has far too many and must have some issues. I know of a guy in St Petersburg who is similar (although he is actually Russian). When I ask the girls that I know who are also friends with him about who he is and why are they friends with him. They tell me they have no idea and don't really care too much about him. I think your friend is probably a similar friend to 99% if not all of these girls. Like Prosal I have very few real friends on vk, more work friends but even so less than 50.

Also Skwiskwis I don't mean to be rude but from reading your posts I think your understanding of slavic women is different to mine. I quote 'in other words, you will have to be convincing that your NOT a monger, but instead are somehow a really cool guy, sensitive, with disposable income, but for some tragic reason can't find a girl in your own country or even a girl thru your work or whatever reason brings you to Russia and instead, despite being a really cool guy, have to use the internet and VK and isn't it just the best of luck that you found her. Complicated role to play. '

In my humble opinion you are treating Russian girls the way you would treat Western women. In the most cases this is not needed. There is no need to try and convince a Russian girl you are not a monger they expect men to have a history and like it that you have slept with other women. Why would you need to convince her you are cool with disposable income. These are all assumed by Russian girls as you are western, Russian girls know their guys aren't cool. Sensitive. Not sure Russian girls want men to be like this. They are more than comfortable with gender differences.

Anyway maybe you date nicer Russian girls than I do. Although I can assure you mine are dirtier.


There is absolutely nothing to be jealous about. At the contrary, this is rather pathetic IMO. An obvious symptome of deep self-insecurity. This reminds me this poster in the Kiev thread who brags about the so-called 1200 girls numbers he has in his mobile phone. I'm not shrink, but the first thing that comes to mind is that those guys try to reassure themselves by creating a busy virtual life, to hide to themselves the proverty of their own social, sentimental and sexual life.

Personally I have at max thirty girls (the girls I have built the best emotional and intellectual harmony with) on my FB friend list, and only one on VK. But I've fucked dozens over dozens Russian girls, and I know that when I'm in Russia, Ukraine, Moldova, Uz, out on the town and with the right mood, chances are high that I get immediate results. I don't need "a few thousands girls" on my FB or VK friend list to know that I can be successful.

Skwiskwis
07-27-12, 12:59
Slavic girls are all sluts and what they really want is to share genetic material with guys who have microbes from other men swimming around in their blood? Slept with dozens and dozens and dozens of Russian girls but threatened by someone with more social (virtual) contacts? SPOOKY! AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Anyone check out English Mamba lately? The site has done away completely (at least in the not VIP area) with the ability to search "interests." You can only search areas and ages and genders now, which means your search results are much less useful. You have to guess which ones are advertising for sex meetings. However, I don't have a VIP membership on Mamba, so can't say what search options you have there. I'm new to DateRu, but I see the same lack of search options (in the English version). Actually, DateRu looks exactly like Mamba to me, except it does actually have many different girls (and some of the same ones from Mamba). As always, both sites are full of scams and fake profiles and salons. And, as usual, my second message to any girl is: &1069; &1090; &1086; &1085; &1072; &1089; &1090; &1086; &1103; &1097; &1080; &1077; &1092; &1086; &1090; &1086; &1075; &1088; &1072; &1092; &1080; &1080; ? (Are the photographs real?).

Prosal
07-27-12, 15:52
There is no need to try and convince a Russian girl you are not a monger they expect men to have a history and like it that you have slept with other women.Seconded. Look at the profiles on dating sites. Not everybody is looking for love and long-term relationships. As I said below, casual sex is as common as ever in Russia, and most girls know exactly what they are getting into when dating and / or fucking foreigners. They are not naive and know the deal. The only thing is to envelop your desires in an acceptable way.

Skwiskwis
08-01-12, 16:14
i'm presently in stpb and was trolling on date ru and ran across another profile that sent warning bells ringing and so i'm passing along a warning. in my search on date ru i found a profile advertising itself as "female" and "21" with a couple of (attractive) photos. as soon as i wrote to her she replied that she was "13"! she then proceeded to lobby heavily for a meeting, even after i wrote to her that 13 was too young and illegal (her reply was "what do you care if it is illegal"?). this is the second one of these i've run across (the first was on mamba a few months ago and the "girl" wrote she was 15) and they smell of russian police. but who knows. it seems very strange to me that a girl, even if she was ****, would immediately tell you she was in i'm exchanges unless it was to document it for the trail, conviction, and rotting in jail phase of your relationship. i guess i am more used to the girls on mamba under reporting their actual age or using photos that are 10 years old. (bye the way the legal age in russia is now 16; some years ago it was actually 14). be careful out there.

Mrllo
08-15-12, 02:25
Does anyone have any good web links to brothels in Rostov-on-Don. Or suggestions where I can find girls there?

Thanks

Adves2010
08-15-12, 19:31
Hi,

Am sorry to bother you, but I am in moscow for 3weeks and looking to find a decent lady who speak little english to help me find places as well go to party places.

Am from Dubai, can any one.

Which party places are clean and good in moscow where you find normal nice ladies

Stravinsky
08-16-12, 15:56
Does anyone have any good web links to brothels in Rostov-on-Don. Or suggestions where I can find girls there?ThanksTry these.


http://www.xrostov.com

http://chpoking.ru/

http://www.sex-forum.xxx/forumdisplay.php?f=13

http://searchintim.ru/seks-znakomstva.php?t=Rostov-na-Donu

http://vk.com/club3633994

Gentleman Travel
08-30-12, 15:45
Is it just me, or has Mamba's software gone to ratshit recently?

I have just upgraded my membership in anticipation of a trip to Ukraine and, first I had lots of trouble doing so, it kept giving me an error message.

Now I cannot set an age preference for the girls I want to meet (it only offers the choice of 61-80!) or purpose (only offers Travel).

Then on the search engine, I do not get a drop down menu for Height or Weight and seems to be very erratic delivering profiles with my specified age range.

Plus of course they have taken away a lot of other useful searchable criteria, but that is a different issue.

On the plus side, I was able to change my home location to Kiev which gets me a lot more traffic!

Also, it looks like "Friendship" has become the new euphemism for P4P. What is the Russian word they are using. Can it translate differently than "friendship"?

Uke Boy
08-30-12, 19:29
Also, it looks like "Friendship" has become the new euphemism for P4P. What is the Russian word they are using. Can it translate differently than "friendship"?Nope. The phrase that is used in Cyrillic is Nope. The phrase that is used in Cyrillic is Дружба и общение meaning friendship and companionship, in this case. общение can also mean communication. Good luck.

Tomcat2
09-01-12, 12:12
Is it just me, or has Mamba's software gone to ratshit recently?

I have just upgraded my membership in anticipation of a trip to Ukraine and, first I had lots of trouble doing so, it kept giving me an error message.

Now I cannot set an age preference for the girls I want to meet (it only offers the choice of 61-80!) or purpose (only offers Travel).

Then on the search engine, I do not get a drop down menu for Height or Weight and seems to be very erratic delivering profiles with my specified age range.

Plus of course they have taken away a lot of other useful searchable criteria, but that is a different issue.

On the plus side, I was able to change my home location to Kiev which gets me a lot more traffic!

Also, it looks like "Friendship" has become the new euphemism for P4P. What is the Russian word they are using. Can it translate differently than "friendship"?Mamba is fucked up. I have same issues; can't search ages, height or weight, etc. Even with my VIP membership. Any other good websites?

Stravinsky
09-01-12, 19:34
You might want to try www.omen.ru It used to be a simple, dating/social networking site with some willing women occasionally offering секс за деньги (sex for money). But now it is just a full-on sex site.

It has a new format, which is strangely reminiscent of Mamba. Maybe Mamba took it over?

Anyway, it works. And it still appears to be free. For now.

Mattitinen
01-20-13, 09:23
You might want to try www.omen.ru It used to be a simple, dating / social networking site with some willing women occasionally offering &1089; &1077; &1082; &1089; &1079; &1072; &1076; &1077; &1085; &1100; &1075; &1080; (sex for money). But now it is just a full-on sex site.

It has a new format, which is strangely reminiscent of Mamba. Maybe Mamba took it over?

Anyway, it works. And it still appears to be free. For now.Omen is not working anymore. Mamba has cleaned out women looking a sponsorship. From which sites you are searching semipros nowadays?

Stravinsky
01-23-13, 20:28
omen.ru says they will return, hopefully that will happen.

Until then, I think the main options are:

VKontakte, www.vk.com

Classmates, www.odnoklassniki.com

Sean EZ
01-23-13, 21:32
Is it just me, or has Mamba's software gone to ratshit recently?

Now I cannot set an age preference for the girls I want to meet (it only offers the choice of 61-80!) or purpose (only offers Travel).

Also, it looks like "Friendship" has become the new euphemism for P4P. What is the Russian word they are using. Can it translate differently than "friendship"?I just tried my mamba, it allows to search based on age. I heard same about friendship being new P4P. Doesn't matter really what their profile says, a good percent of girls don't mind occasional sponsorship and I am glad to see all the agency profiles posting fakes in Moscow go.

Remember if the first response from mamba is address / price / phone it's bait and switch.

Sponsor74
01-23-13, 22:20
omen. Ru says they will return, hopefully that will happen.

Until then, I think the main options are:

VKontakte,

www.vk.com

Classmates,

www.odnoklassniki.comIsnthis site free or request payment registration?

Sponsor74
01-23-13, 22:49
I find ww. Vk. Com better in EE countries now than the aforementioned mamba. Ru, or the western European badoo etc.

Vk. Com after some wading through the celebrity fringe seems to attract a more civilized, educated piece of ass for my old cock.In the past this site requsted an invite of a member and then via sms you can register. Is this today still valid

Stravinsky
01-24-13, 19:41
In the past this site requsted an invite of a member and then via sms you can register. Is this today still valid.

Isnthis site free or request payment registration?Try it and see, and let us know what you find.

Sponsor74
01-25-13, 00:40
Try it and see, and let us know what you find.I can not try becaues I need tomregiter me again and therefore was my question if some one here in this Forum know how is now? Maybe I need to ask a girl there to send me an invitation and then I will revert to you. Thanks anyway

Skwiskwis
03-04-13, 14:02
Update to Mamba. You get 30 free contacts (same as before) , after which you must pay a small fee to write to new contacts. However, now you are limited to 100 new contacts in 24 hours. After 100 you will be blocked from writing to anyone new (can still write to old contacts).

DavidVanSchuma
06-16-13, 19:30
Hey there, I will be spending sometime in Russia this year and looking forward to making some reports.

I want to ask about experience with Mamba. I have started using it about 2 months before departure to try to set up some ladies for dates, drinks, or whatever I can get. It seems like sending out a line with many many hooks hoping for a bite. Does anyone else find that Russian women don't make conversation (In any language, Russian, English, others)? It seems like they just simply don't ask questions. Is the type of Russian woman looking for a man (Russian man) who will just tell her what she likes, doesn't like, her hobbies and she just answers when she is spoken to? It seems like this so far to me as the conversation is incredibly single sided with a few questions from me.

Have you guys figured out any good way to get some interest from the typical Russian lady with the first messages? Is it necessary to be much more to the point, this has seemed like it might work with getting a more interested response. Is an opening message like "Hello, I would like to get to know you." completely the wrong approach for a Russian lady? I got a nice bite with,"I'm your destiny baby)" and until now this caught the only Russian lady with a great sense of humor. Unfortunately she is living in Moscow and too far from where I will be. Otherwise it seems they have been possibly completely retarded with conversation. I can't even include racism as a reason as I'm white northern european looking and I have my place set to Ivanovo so they can't just place me in the "too far away basket", and I'm also not hideous looking so that could not be the reason.

Skwiskwis
06-22-13, 14:25
I've been using Mamba for a few years and had almost given up on it. My strategy now is to write either when I'm in Russia or one or two days before. My first message is very brief, basically just stating I'll be visiting the city. Frankly, I copy the message and paste it until I run out of the 30 freebies. Only if a girl responds do I then take the time to write personalized messages (and I always write in Russian unless the girl indicates she can communicate in English). Over the years, I think I've written to more than a thousand girls. Met and had sex with less than 15 and keep in touch and occasionally still meet with only 2. I was in StPb until two days ago and had success meeting three new girls for sex I met on Mamba last December (a girl in stpb I've been meeting for 5 years was out of town until we met up to go on a holiday together. Met her on Streamate originally. So I had about a week to kill). At least for me Mamba did work (I'd put each of the three I met in the "average" looks category; one of them was tall and slender, which I like, but had obviously had a child. At least that's what her breasts suggested, the second was an athletic blond with very sharp facial features, and the third was brown haired, average height, small breasted, but the one I liked the most. Only the athletic blond spoke English well enough to chat.). The problem now is that there is no 'meeting for sex' category and so when you write to girls your more than likely to write a "normal" Russian girl than a girl looking for sex for money. And since, as was previously posted, your limited to 30 freebies a day the law of averages is against you, unless you want to pay Mamba, but then you will run out of the 100 limit. Combine this with the fact that even average looking girls get hundreds of Mamba messages and the additional fact that Russian girls generally prefer well to do Russian men over foreigners these days, and your chances sink even lower. And then there's just the timing issue and the salon with fake photos issue. Your also competing with every other horny foreigner hoping to connect and also with all the Russian guys, and the Russian guys, if they have money, have most of the advantages, since they can chat up the girls. Russian girls love blah blah blah blah in their own language and, in fact, most Russians generally consider Russian to be superior to other languages, especially English (the whole Pushkin as soul of Russia thing). Having written that, however, my suggestion is to keep writing Mamba girls you like, but not to spend a lot of time going thru their photos and such. If they are true sex for money girls, working independently, bye the way, they won't have much interest in planning two months ahead. Last December I was in stpb and trying to connect with a few girls when my Russian gf was at work. You need to find a girl who wants a sponsor for that kind of early communication, and she's probably going to want a down payment before you arrive (just to prove your on the level). For myself, I think I wrote a couple of hundred girls before I connected and eventually met the three previously mentioned. Oh, and let me also mention you will also eventually find girls who apparently have researched the price of sex in Europe. They will indeed be happy to meet a foreigner from the West, and they will also expect you to pay for it as if you were in Paris (I've had girls write me 1000E for the night; 500E for 3 hours and other outrageous prices). The three I met charged: 5000 rubles for 2 hours (basic Russian price) ; 100000 rubles for 2-3 hours (on the expensive side for me, but the blond girl had great pics) ; 7000 rubles for 2 hours (tall, slender, long black hair, just as I like, but breasts were not firm) And, as an afterthought, let me add that the Russian ruble is currently in a state of flux. Just a few days ago it popped over 33 to the dollar and is hovering right now at around 32. 77 and rumors have it that it will be allowed to devalue 1 or 2 rubles / dollar in an attempt to help the economy. If that happens, I suspect prices will be modified accordingly throughout Russia but that salaries in Russia will not be raised. This may be helpful to foreign mongers. I can only hope that a Ruble fall will make foreigners and their foreign currencies more appealing and Russian girls who otherwise made do with their salaries might look to supplement their income the old fashioned way. Oh, and a qualification. My meeting Mamba girls experiences are limited to StPb. Have no idea if the same applies with trying to meet up with girls on Mamba in provincial Russian cities.

Guntherus
06-23-13, 00:29
Hello Skwiskwis, you describe my thought on this matter, at least in many ways. I must make a correction though. Several weeks ago, Mamba-administration added "looking for sex" as a search option, at least for paying members. And several other options, that used to be, but disappeared last year or so, are now back. In my opinion, payd membership saves time and money. I would consider two profiles, one as full member, another as a freebie. Ciao, Roll Buzz

Skwiskwis
06-23-13, 05:29
Thank you Roll Buzz! Just checked my Mamba acct (freebie) and there is a "select another" choice under "what are you looking for." Never occurred to me to check. Thanks for the heads-up! I was able to choose "sex" (there are some other categories as well you can choose from, like languages spoken) and save it and search with it, so it works even in my free profile. I'm using the English version.


Hello Skwiskwis, you describe my thought on this matter, at least in many ways. I must make a correction though. Several weeks ago, Mamba-administration added "looking for sex" as a search option, at least for paying members. And several other options, that used to be, but disappeared last year or so, are now back. In my opinion, payd membership saves time and money. I would consider two profiles, one as full member, another as a freebie. Ciao, Roll Buzz

Sponsor74
06-25-13, 20:42
Update to Mamba. You get 30 free contacts (same as before) , after which you must pay a small fee to write to new contacts. However, now you are limited to 100 new contacts in 24 hours. After 100 you will be blocked from writing to anyone new (can still write to old contacts).Hello, it seems some changes in this site and now you need VIP status for messages to new contacts (of course you have to pay for this status).

I guess is time to look for a new provider and replace Mamba in our searchs or someone can recommend a better free site and free of charge?

DavidVanSchuma
06-28-13, 22:21
Skwiskwis. So thanks for the detailed response. So yes it seems that Mamba is not an easy place. Fortunately a little leg work paid off at least for female company of non-sex related. Out of many contacts I at least managed to hook one. I have to say being in a horrible Russian city, I would working girl myself for an ugly woman with a car who can drive me around. And seems to be what I have done minus the ugly part. Decent looking (7/10) in the high income catergory, it was necessary she had transport. There is much to say, but maybe for another time. She is giving me such valuable information e. G. How Russian women here never meet / see a foreign man that I am absolutely exotic. I will be sure to be much much more forward with any woman who can speak 2 words of English.

Stravinsky
07-20-13, 19:07
When I looked at her comments on rusdosug I didn't see anything and I was the unlucky guy to make the first comment. I don't really know how to find the same girl in intimcity. Nl so I couldn't look her up. If I had a way of linking a girl I find on rusdosug with a girl on intimcity. Nl I wouldn't have called her (is there a way?).WtW,

Rusdosug is a sister site to Intimcity, they are linked by the phone numbers. You can't see the link on Rusdosug if you are looking at the English page. You need to switch to the Russian page. At the bottom of her form, in the Отзывы "Reports" section, you will see a couple of links: На Интимсити, "Intimcity", and На Sextalk: 1, "Sextalk". The number "1" indicates that there is a report about her on Sextalk.

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi.php?service=1&id=133592

If you click on На Интимсити, it will take you to her page there:

http://www.intimcity.nl/search_ext.php?phones=9260396251

This is her new Intimcity form. She de-activated her old Intimcity form here:

http://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=154333

I imagine she deactivated her old form because of the bad review that was linked to it on Sextalk. You can find it here:

http://sextalk.ru/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=cls&Number=1402458&Forum=&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1402458&Search=true&where=&Name=&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1402458

You don't have to read through the Russian text, just focus on the scores at the bottom:

Оценка: КС: 3-, Минет: 3-, отношение к клиенту: 3, квартира: 4, в целом: 3-

КС = Classic Sex

Минет = blowjob

отношение к клиенту = relationship to the client (which I think is the most important criterion)

квартира = apartment

в целом = overall

So, she got an overall score of minus 3, out of a possible 5. The best part of the experience with her was the apartment. Not too promising. You could have saved yourself a lot of wasted time and money by doing a little research up front.

Now, on the other hand, there is Nastya... who looks like she could ring your bell, clean your clock and have your ashes hauled before you could say Боже мой!:

http://www.rusdosug.com/indi.php?service=1&id=111287

http://www.intimcity.nl/persons.php?id=145460

You can find one of her reviews on Sextalk here:

http://sextalk.ru/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=cls&Number=1419493&Forum=&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1419493&Search=true&where=&Name=&daterange=&newerval=&newertype=&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1419493

Straight 5's, across the board. She's the girl you want to meet. Of course, if you don't speak Russian, then I guess you're just SOL.

Bummer, dude...

WanderTheWorld
07-21-13, 12:31
WtW,

Straight 5's, across the board. She's the girl you want to meet. Of course, if you don't speak Russian, then I guess you're just SOL.

Bummer, dude.Stravinsky thank you for the informational post though I don't get what your abbreviations are. Are they:

WtW: Well there is a way.

SOL: So out of luck.

I kinda read a lot of the posts in here when I first started but I don't think I have come across an explanation like yours, can anyone explain why there isn't a sticky thread for posts like yours. If I gather all such posts by rereading them can we make it a sticky, or can we make your post sticky for beginners?

Stravinsky
07-21-13, 17:28
If I gather all such posts by rereading them can we make it a sticky, or can we make your post sticky for beginners?WtW is abbreviation for your handle: WanderTheWorld.

You already figured out what is SOL.

Jackson controls the configuration of the board. He hasn't set up sticky notes, unfortunately. You can post a request in the Proposed Site Improvements thread and Jackson may respond, or not. Probably not, but after all, stranger things have happened...

DavidVanSchuma
07-25-13, 10:58
With a bit of trial and error (and time wasting) I thought I could share what has been working on Mamba. There is definitely an element of luck involved.

If using Mamba for free one is limited to viewing 200 profiles, and being able to send 20 personal messages within 24 hours. This is why I've found it is necessary to commence sending messages at least 1 week in advanced in order to play the numbers game. This can be quite time consuming so depending on how much spare time you have.

Beginning I search the city of choice for the appropriate age range which seems to get my best results. 18 to 27. I think I should even narrow this further. 23 to 27.

I browse quickly just opening girls in a new tab which I think at relatively attractive in their small picture, then I quickly scan to see if they list English. If not I immediately close the window and move on. This rule on English I almost never break unless they list French (rare) or Dutch (very very rare).

Once I have found an English listed one, I quickly open the message window and have copy / paste prepared "Hello, I would like to get to know you, (name)" and close the window. I rarely look at any more pictures unless something particularly catches my eye. I move on and repeat this until quickly clocking up 20 messages. Repeat every 24 hours until getting to the city. From 20 messages I might be lucky to get one nibble with interesting conversation and maybe another 2 with poor English or boring conversation.

Golden rule to never break. Do not ever mention sex, ever.

In my opinion starting only 2 days in advance is not worth it. Rarely would the normal Russian girl come out to meet a foreigner with only a few messages and barely any chatting. It is necessary to put them at ease and get to know them.

I'm working on this little project for a trip next weekend and have already one girl who wants to be my tour guide on one day and so I'm just continuing to fish to see if I can find a better offer or more attractive girl. I will keep chatting to all girls I find and try to plan a number of different girls for different activities and see what comes of it. I imagine that I could have girl #1 lined up for being a tour guide during the Saturday and if she doesn't work out for drinks / dinner and dessert, I could have already girl #2 lined up for the evening and have another lined up for the Sunday. We will see.

Other things I've experienced about Mamba, is that Russian women are f-ing crazy jealous. The first 2 were absolutely raving mad. They sign into Mamba to inspect whether you are still signing in to use it once meeting them and have no shame in hard questions to you about this. I recommend trying to find anyway to play this down, admission that you still use it to chat to women does not go down very well at all. Next time this is asked I will counter with "And I could ask you the same question, why do you keep signing in?" Depending on how many girls you have to keep you busy this can be good and bad, this allowed me to easily ditch the first girl who was wasting my time and encouraged the 2nd girl to ditch me after I had fucked her brains out on 2 separate occasions. To move on to other women. Girl #3 deleted her account once meeting me and it is quite clear she just wants to keep using me for a good temporary time so this suits me well.

Otherwise I've been learning that all this marriage talk and commitment is a total load of bullshit with them. They are marriage obsessed but they are mad. I seriously have no idea what some of them are going on about most of the time. Latest story I heard was an engaged girlfriend of the one I'm currently fucking wanted me to find her a guy so we can go out clubbing as four. I asked what's the story if she's engaged and it was met with. She doesn't really like her fiance that much but she wants to get married, and then divorced. Because most women around the end of their 20s are either married or divorced and being neither means that she is unsuccessful with men. True story and I have heard some other ones which surprised me.

YummyPL
07-27-13, 07:16
WtW is abbreviation for your handle: WanderTheWorld.

You already figured out what is SOL.

Jackson controls the configuration of the board. He hasn't set up sticky notes, unfortunately. You can post a request in the Proposed Site Improvements thread and Jackson may respond, or not. Probably not, but after all, stranger things have happened.There is also the Reports of Distinction thread but I am not really sure how that works. I have been too lazy to look.

Stravinsky
07-28-13, 22:22
The Reports of Distinction thread is a place where you can post a link to another post or report, if you feel it stands out or is distinctive in some way. But, there is no way to categorize those posts either, so they just float away into the stream of consciousness, like all the others.

WanderTheWorld
07-29-13, 14:21
The Reports of Distinction thread is a place where you can post a link to another post or report, if you feel it stands out or is distinctive in some way. But, there is no way to categorize those posts either, so they just float away into the stream of consciousness, like all the others.It will get lost in due time but still I posted your informative guide there, hopefully someone will save some time & money by reading it.

Mattitinen
07-31-13, 11:14
Both sites Rusdosug and Intimcity are down.

Do you have any information what has happened?

Are they now in history?

Jaleks999
08-01-13, 07:19
Both sites Rusdosug and Intimcity are down.

Do you have any information what has happened?

Are they now in history?Intimcity seems to be up again. (AM 1 Aug) Tried looking for some info on rusdosug. They don't seem to have a twitter, facebook or vkontakt page where there could make announcements. Maybe it will be up again later as it went down for a while a couple of days ago but then returned. BTW, which website do you prefer to use? Any recommendations? I'm pretty new to this.

Jaleks999
08-01-13, 07:24
Both sites Rusdosug and Intimcity are down.

Do you have any information what has happened?

Are they now in history?My mistake that was Intmcity.xxx that was up but intimcity.nl is still down.

DavidVanSchuma
08-01-13, 10:37
So I posted my small project for this weekend.

I have 2 to 3 definite girls lined up for my visit to a provincial Russian city. I only really have 1 day and night. Transport on Sunday afternoon would make anything on the Sunday but a friendly encounter possible unless the unexpected happens.

Started chatting to both approx. 1 week in advance with just simple chit chat. Nothing too interesting and didn't bother complimenting them about beauty or anything. Just simple interesting conversation about life.

Picked the most educated, upper-class and intelligent girl for Satuday as tour guide. Still not completely sure of her looks, one photos on Mamba looks very cute, another questionable. Would only be able to judge for certain in person. Will meet with her to tour me around the city during the day and depending on how things go could have a shot at some evening activities.

Second girl is most attractive and wanted to line her up for drinks and dinner on the Saturday night. I can easily ditch girl number 1 if she doesn't tickle my fancy and move on to this one.

Third girl has the worst English, I thought she was using google translate but I'm not sure if this was for some words or the complete typing. This one also has the most interesting pics on Mamba, looks like she would fuck on first encounter. She didn't have the hall marks of copy / paste translator so I'm leaning towards average English. This is obviously a turn on for me as I like hearing some Russian. I'm still not sure what to do with this one. It will be difficult to call upon her if girl #2 pulls out because she will surely know so I might try to line her up as a back-up for Saturday night but just pull the plug by text if everything else goes smoothly.

The story will follow next week.

Jaleks999
08-01-13, 17:12
Now both websites say there are repairs and that it should be up by tomorrow evening.

I get the impression the rudosug site is the most trustworthy site. Would you by any chance know of any good escorts on rusdosug. Com who are in St Pb? (preferably English speaking)?

Mattitinen
08-02-13, 07:57
I get the impression the rudosug site is the most trustworthy site. Would you by any chance know of any good escorts on rusdosug. Com who are in St Pb? (preferably English speaking)?If you don't speak Russian I think that rusdosug is good one. Unfortunately, it is not the matter of site but a girl. You can find many fakes from rusdosug but also real pics. Business as usual around the world.

Most girls aren't independent. They are working for an office. There are several good reasons why they are doing it. Anyway, if you like a girl (and she likes you) , she probably give you her private number.

When you call to an office you can ask more detailed information on girls available. You can also ask if they send the same girl as in a profile.

The biggest problem is language. There can be a person speaking English or not. You can never know it in advance.

Puccini
08-09-13, 16:08
Here is a site with some reasonable prices.

http://www.sexkukolki.ru/main.php

KeepItBurnin
02-25-14, 20:57
I came accross an escort website where some girls' info said condom: not mandatory. Unfortunately I forgot the address. I will visit Moscow in 2 months. Was wondering if you guys could help out if you know sites where condoms are not mandatory. There were superb girls on the site.

Thank you in advance.

Jake993
02-26-14, 05:33
I came accross an escort website where some girls' info said condom: not mandatory. Unfortunately I forgot the address. I will visit Moscow in 2 months. Was wondering if you guys could help out if you know sites where condoms are not mandatory. There were superb girls on the site.

Thank you in advance.Escort where condom not mandatory. In Moscow? Playing with fire dude.

YummyPL
02-26-14, 12:58
Escort where condom not mandatory. In Moscow? Playing with fire dude.Jake, did you notice his nickname?)

KeepItBurnin
02-26-14, 14:56
Escort where condom not mandatory. In Moscow? Playing with fire dude.Haha don't worry I'm not into having unsafe sex. There were 3 girls on the website I would love to bang. I don't see them on the other sites.

KeepItBurnin
02-26-14, 14:59
I see some extras Rec / pictures. Have you guys ever did that recording? I would love to do that. I have a budget of $1,000 for a week. Accomodation (dinner and breakfast included) is paid by office.

Diana911
12-09-14, 12:33
http://escortrus.ru/

http://msk-escort.ru/ good web sites with true pictures.

WanderTheWorld
12-25-14, 13:18
Here is a site with some reasonable prices.

http://www.sexkukolki.ru/main.phpThose prices are reasonable and there is one girl I liked however they are all in St. Petersburg. Good site for people going to St. Petersburg.

ISpaMan
02-11-15, 16:56
One more site with original photos:

I-Spa. Su.

DianaRus
02-20-15, 14:20
New girl Rosa and her fresh portfolio from Black sea. http://escortrus.ru/gallery/151/Roza.php.

KeepItBurnin
02-25-15, 20:17
Are the two website sure and have real photos? Rusdosug says the pictures ore verified. Met some girls at the lobby of my hotel last time I came to russia for few days. Want to get back to moscow and visit st petersburg. 45 euros is cheap. Sounds fishy.

WanderTheWorld
02-26-15, 15:09
Are the two website sure and have real photos? Rusdosug says the pictures ore verified. Met some girls at the lobby of my hotel last time I came to russia for few days. Want to get back to moscow and visit st petersburg. 45 euros is cheap. Sounds fishy.Rusdosug and intimcity have the same database and they work together. I'd suggest you to use intimcity as it has a lot more comments on girls and it links to detailed reviews of girls at sextalk. Ru (Russian forum). Rusdosug is a bit unreliable as it caters to foreigners.

Here is what I wrote on the topic on how to look for girls. Use google chrome and auto translate button in the address bar on sites like intimcity and read this post before going any further.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?770-Moscow&p=1666417&viewfull=1#post1666417

Edit: If it says it has been verified by administrators : it doesn't mean they have gone and saw the girl in real life. It just means it is not heavily photoshopped or it didn't come up on reverse google image search. It's a good thing that this process is done by admins as I used to do it myself for each profile but don't rely on it alone and expect the girl in the photos. Read the COMMENTS!!! on the girls page at intimcity.

DianaRus
02-26-15, 16:45
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http://escortrus.ru/

http://www.vipescort-moscow.com/

KeepItBurnin
02-27-15, 05:06
Rusdosug and intimcity have the same database and they work together. I'd suggest you to use intimcity as it has a lot more comments on girls and it links to detailed reviews of girls at sextalk. Ru (Russian forum). Rusdosug is a bit unreliable as it caters to foreigners.

Here is what I wrote on the topic on how to look for girls. Use google chrome and auto translate button in the address bar on sites like intimcity and read this post before going any further.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?770-Moscow&p=1666417&viewfull=1#post1666417

Edit: If it says it has been verified by administrators : it doesn't mean they have gone and saw the girl in real life. It just means it is not heavily photoshopped or it didn't come up on reverse google image search. It's a good thing that this process is done by admins as I used to do it myself for each profile but don't rely on it alone and expect the girl in the photos. Read the COMMENTS!!! on the girls page at intimcity.Thank you mate. Much appreciated.

KeepItBurnin
02-27-15, 05:08
Rusdosug and intimcity have the same database and they work together. I'd suggest you to use intimcity as it has a lot more comments on girls and it links to detailed reviews of girls at sextalk. Ru (Russian forum). Rusdosug is a bit unreliable as it caters to foreigners.

Here is what I wrote on the topic on how to look for girls. Use google chrome and auto translate button in the address bar on sites like intimcity and read this post before going any further.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?770-Moscow&p=1666417&viewfull=1#post1666417

Edit: If it says it has been verified by administrators : it doesn't mean they have gone and saw the girl in real life. It just means it is not heavily photoshopped or it didn't come up on reverse google image search. It's a good thing that this process is done by admins as I used to do it myself for each profile but don't rely on it alone and expect the girl in the photos. Read the COMMENTS!!! on the girls page at intimcity.I thought that girls with videos on rusprostitute could be true. Have you tried?

WanderTheWorld
03-31-15, 18:58
I thought that girls with videos on rusprostitute could be true. Have you tried?No, I haven't tried rusprostitute, but I have tried other sites with similar setups and I know that the best one is the one used by locals and it is intimcity. If you try rusprostitute please share your experience so we can all learn.

KatyaSex
05-13-15, 19:40
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Richard P
06-03-15, 18:12
Hey Guys,

Visiting Krasnodar in 2 weeks. Appreciate any guidance on where to find escorts or websites that I can search.

Thanks a ton.

ShawMan74
06-04-15, 05:48
Gentlemen,

So, I am about to take this trip to Moscow in July (wow time flies). So I had an idea to preemptively prepare for this trip, so that I wouldn't have a repeat of my experience in Buenos Aires last year (see that forum for the gory details). I was thinking about laying the groundwork now for establishing contacts in Moscow so that I could make the most of my 2 weeks there. What inspired this post is the abject failure of a technique I employed in preemptively prepare for this trip. I used a private social networking site that shall remain nameless, but it's express purpose is for finding a significant other in the former USSR.

Admittedly, this technique is old and outdated, and this is probably why it failed. But beside the technique, the site I used could be classified as a "bunk lead" (due to changes in the game, not for anything disingenuous of course). But I did learn a lesson (valued at $35) about the nature of the game in that part of the world. Because you see, this lead was probably considered solid not that long ago.

So now I am thinking about the game in general, and more particularly, how fast it changes. It used to be that the game changed about every 5 years, but now it seems as if the game is changing about every 2 years. The rate of change seems to be an escalating curve rather than a constant. Part of that change, are the efficacy of the leads we use in our little hobby.

And that begs the question about the leads mentioned in this thread. There are about half a dozen or so leads mentioned here within the last year or so. But I wonder, how many (if any) are bunk at this point? Thoughts? Intel?

YummyPL
06-05-15, 00:40
Gentlemen,

So, I am about to take this trip to Moscow in July (wow time flies). So I had an idea to preemptively prepare for this trip, so that I wouldn't have a repeat of my experience in Buenos Aires last year (see that forum for the gory details). I was thinking about laying the groundwork now for establishing contacts in Moscow so that I could make the most of my 2 weeks there. What inspired this post is the abject failure of a technique I employed in preemptively prepare for this trip. I used a private social networking site that shall remain nameless, but it's express purpose is for finding a significant other in the former USSR.

Admittedly, this technique is old and outdated, and this is probably why it failed. But beside the technique, the site I used could be classified as a "bunk lead" (due to changes in the game, not for anything disingenuous of course). But I did learn a lesson (valued at $35) about the nature of the game in that part of the world. Because you see, this lead was probably considered solid not that long ago.

So now I am thinking about the game in general, and more particularly, how fast it changes. It used to be that the game changed about every 5 years, but now it seems as if the game is changing about every 2 years. The rate of change seems to be an escalating curve rather than a constant. Part of that change, are the efficacy of the leads we use in our little hobby.

And that begs the question about the leads mentioned in this thread. There are about half a dozen or so leads mentioned here within the last year or so. But I wonder, how many (if any) are bunk at this point? Thoughts? Intel?SM, I assume you are refering to the site I mentioned to you. Admittedly I have not made extensive use of it in over 18 months, but about 3 weeks ago I got a girl I met through that site in my bed the 2nd day we got together (admittedly, she was nothing special, I just needed something on the side to clear my head). I wonder what you are saying to these girls?

ShawMan74
06-09-15, 09:49
SM, I assume you are refering to the site I mentioned to you. Admittedly I have not made extensive use of it in over 18 months, but about 3 weeks ago I got a girl I met through that site in my bed the 2nd day we got together (admittedly, she was nothing special, I just needed something on the side to clear my head). I wonder what you are saying to these girls?No, my friend.

-- As for the site you gave me, lets continue that conversation in the PM.

-- But I wasn't aiming this thread at the site you gave me, as much as I was just suggesting that it might be good to take an information audit of some of the inventory here, that's all.

Sorry it took me a minute to reply BTW. I've been elbow deep in work these past few days.

ShawMan74
07-08-15, 19:09
It looks like now that I am in Moscow, rusdosug.com is not available. It has been "restricted" for whatever reason. Go figure. Just switched from laptop to phone and got off wifi, and viola, the site comes up on my phone's browser.

FreakWincy
07-08-15, 19:33
It looks like now that I am in Moscow, rusdosug.com is not available. It has been "restricted" for whatever reason. Go figure. Just switched from laptop to phone and got off wifi, and viola, the site comes up on my phone's browser.Same thing happened to me last month! Sites like Rusdosug.com and Itimcity.com couldn't be accessed using the Wifi at the Savoy, but if I switched to cellular connection they pulled up fine.

Funny thing was Masha Escort's Website pulled up just fine on WiFi!

ShawMan74
07-08-15, 21:37
Same thing happened to me last month! Sites like Rusdosug.com and Itimcity.com couldn't be accessed using the Wifi at the Savoy, but if I switched to cellular connection they pulled up fine.

Funny thing was Masha Escort's Website pulled up just fine on WiFi!Masha's? What would that site be, good sir? Just so I can verify the findings of course. :)

OblikoMoralee
07-09-15, 11:55
It looks like now that I am in Moscow, rusdosug.com is not available. It has been "restricted" for whatever reason. Go figure. Just switched from laptop to phone and got off wifi, and viola, the site comes up on my phone's browser.Many of the "intimate"-related websites were blocked few month ago by RKN due to fresh arrived laws. Yeah, we are now on the way to Great China Firewall. Use Tor or something like this to access these sites.

Super6stud9
07-29-15, 09:58
http://www.dosug.nl/ real photos, WYSIWYG The best Website in my expert opinion.

http://www.initmcity.nl/ can be accessed outside of Russia. Browse and save contacts when in Russia, or use anomymizer to access. Blocked in Russia.

More live ones, do a search in yandex. Ru on Moscow Dosug, or city name followed by City Dosug.


Many of the "intimate"-related websites were blocked few month ago by RKN due to fresh arrived laws. Yeah, we are now on the way to Great China Firewall. Use Tor or something like this to access these sites.

MarkHard
07-29-15, 17:49
Hi,

I found forum:

Sextalk. Ru.

Regards Mark.

Sean EZ
10-02-15, 00:42
I can confirm now that intimcity is blocked in Russia, use proxy to access.

Mamba has become complete shit. I used to pull 18-23 year olds consistently off it, now doing same search with "sex" a parameter most if not all profile are either fake or agency. I can tell it's agency because they quickly get to the point and want to meet in the hotel.

Oneten
10-28-15, 19:55
I can confirm now that intimcity is blocked in Russia, use proxy to access.

Mamba has become complete shit. I used to pull 18-23 year olds consistently off it, now doing same search with "sex" a parameter most if not all profile are either fake or agency. I can tell it's agency because they quickly get to the point and want to meet in the hotel.How to access Intimcity in English? Its all in Russian.

Thanks.

Leoas
12-07-15, 12:24
Yes unfortunately most sites do not have a translation. I tried to check if there is a search parameter for English speaking girls, unfortunately did not find one.

I stumbled over some sites, which might have some English, will check and report.

The closes I found for the time being is.

Dosug-msk.com/ en / ankets / admincheck hope it helps.

Leoas
12-07-15, 12:31
Here is the search by parameters.

Dosug-msk.com/ en / ads / search.

Leoas
12-07-15, 13:01
You can try rusdosug dot com, there is an English option.

Leoas
12-08-15, 08:38
I have found another 3, can not guarantee how carefully updated they are.

Intimatlas. Org / individualki / t2/2/.

eurodosug.com/.

eurogirlsescort.com/ escorts / moscow /.

At least you have the search option in English.

Happy hunting.

LS.

ManchesterCat
12-11-15, 10:39
I noticed most of the listing in Intimacy (Which I am under the impression is one of the more reliable sites, with plenty of local reviews) are for Moscow. Are any listing for SPB? And if so, is there any way to filter the results? I've tried to figure it out for a while with no success.

Leoas
12-12-15, 18:51
Filters are working fine, you have to enter the search parameters. Unfortunately again all in Russian, its usually on the left side of the page, but with a little bit of effort and google translate you should be able to manage. Dosug. Cz is in English though. If you like you can provide your search parameters, somebody will be able to enter them and send you a link with the results.

Happy hunting.

Leoas

Oscar1111
01-17-16, 06:39
Hi,

How could a Russian woman come to visit me in Australia. Would I have to invite her? Would a holiday visa work? Maybe for a longer stay with me she could come with a student visa and do some studies while she is here?

BrasilSoccer0
01-31-16, 08:03
Hi,

Can anyone give me apartment websites in russian language? Trying to compare rent in Russia to ukraine. Interested in the provinces.

Uphigh
01-31-16, 17:15
Cian. Ru seems to be the big one. It seems to be the site for western Russia for sure, and some regional cities as well. As with any site, you can run it in google chrome to view in English.

There is also a nice video on youtube on how to use Cian.


Hi,

Can anyone give me apartment websites in russian language? Trying to compare rent in Russia to ukraine. Interested in the provinces.

BrasilSoccer0
02-01-16, 05:57
Thanks Uphigh,

Prices seem ok but the Euro style apt. Are scarce compared to ukraine. I'm strictly talking provinces.


Cian. Ru seems to be the big one. It seems to be the site for western Russia for sure, and some regional cities as well. As with any site, you can run it in google chrome to view in English.

There is also a nice video on youtube on how to use Cian.

Putologist
05-02-16, 05:58
Last year I wrote about the print magazine "Flirt" in the Moscow forum. Well it seems that the makers are having some serious problems with the law now. http://tv.m24.ru/videos/99875.

Interesting enough, their website is still up: zaflirt. Ru.

Jake993
05-03-16, 05:48
Last year I wrote about the print magazine "Flirt" in the Moscow forum. Well it seems that the makers are having some serious problems with the law now. http://tv.m24.ru/videos/99875.

Interesting enough, their website is still up: zaflirt. Ru.Damn. Now what I am I going to read in the toilet?

Putologist
05-03-16, 11:18
Damn. Now what I am I going to read in the toilet?Ha, poor Jake, but anyway most of the ads there were scam.

I will not miss them.

Jake993
05-04-16, 05:19
Ha, poor Jake, but anyway most of the ads there were scam.

I will not miss them.I will miss them. Not because it was of any value but because it was, to me, a symbol of a certain "lawless freedom" in Russia. Even though there is a strongman in charge, it was still possible for the small fish to ply their tawdry trade if only through pathetic rags like FLIRT. This clampdown is yet another hint that the noose is tightening ever further on civil liberties in Russia.

Meesee
10-13-16, 12:43
I have found another 3, can not guarantee how carefully updated they are.

eurodosug.com/.

Happy hunting.

LS.Eurodosug. Rusdosug. Maybe there are other dosug sites?

Is dosug a word in a different language or are these web sites just all from the same company? Just idle curiosity. Thanks for the post.

Pushkin13
11-22-16, 05:29
Hi,

How could a Russian woman come to visit me in Australia. Would I have to invite her? Would a holiday visa work? Maybe for a longer stay with me she could come with a student visa and do some studies while she is here?Check the website of the Australian Department of Immigration and Border Protection. Yes, you can invite an overseas "friend" to visit you in Australia, but the application process is lengthy and expensive. So I am reliably informed.

P13.

Stravinsky
12-06-16, 16:11
Eurodosug. Rusdosug. Maybe there are other dosug sites?

Is dosug a word in a different language or are these web sites just all from the same company? Just idle curiosity. Thanks for the post.Dosug is a Russian word that simply means ¨leisure¨ or ¨free time¨. I think of it as ¨relax¨. The reason you see it used so much is because it has become a code word for paid sex.

YummyPL
12-08-16, 01:22
Dosug is a Russian word that simply means leisure or free time. I think of it as relax. The reason you see it used so much is because it has become a code word for paid sex.Strav lives! Good to see you.

Stravinsky
12-09-16, 07:09
Privyet Yummy! Kak nastroyeniya? I'm afraid the rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated.

Although otherwise engaged, I still check in once in a while--there just doesn't seem to be a legitimate reason to respond to much of anything posted here anymore.

I mean... marmalade parties? WTF???

Berrys66
04-11-19, 16:33
Hi,

How could a Russian woman come to visit me in Australia. Would I have to invite her? Would a holiday visa work? Maybe for a longer stay with me she could come with a student visa and do some studies while she is here?It maybe hard as they have a bad rep for not returning when the visa runs out. Western embassies are tough on Russian women even if your married. Knew some who couldn't get Russian wives over to the UK after many years of trying.