Jakarta - Hotels

[WestCoast1]

Maybe it's just me (I'm shy) , but what I really liked about the Atlet is you can go through the back door, on the side of the hotel towards Senayan, so there's no walk of shame with your date. Especially if she's half your age, dressed like a hooker, and has multiple tatoos and piercings.One night I picked up a stunner in TG. Tall, thin waist, with boobage. Great eyes. As the taxi pulled up to the door at Atlet to drop us off, there was another taxi pulling in right in front of us. The doorman opened the door and out popped a real cutie, wearing a very short, zebra-striped, low-cut, strapless dress. She appeared to be 16. The dress looked like it was painted onto her body. Next a fat, old (about 60) white guy, grey hair, got out of the taxi, wearing flip-flops, shorts, and a t-shirt with holes in it. His belly flopped out from under the shirt (dunlops disease. His belly done lopped over the top of his shorts). His hair hadn't been combed and was all over the place, like he just got out of bed. THEN another girl stepped out of the cab. Same zebra-striped dress. Identical girl as the first. Like a clone. Twins obviously. All three of them were happy and giggling and carrying on. We got out of our taxi and followed the happy, noisy three-some into the lobby and over to the elevators. Thank god there is nobody except the hotel employees there at midnight. The happy people in front of us were loud, teetering, laughing hysterically. Normally I don't give a flying rip about what others in the lobby think, as its usually me and one girl. She could always be mistaken either as a pro or my gf. But, with this gent, there is no mistaking what was going on.

Must say, even though I had one of the prettier girls on the planet on my arm, I was a touch jealous of the zebras.

[Tiny 12]

Whatever happened to "mind your own business"? Why do punters give two fucks about what others think of them as they enter the loby? Grow up1. Biggest reason for me is that I'm paranoid someone I do business with who's conservative is going to find out I'm a monger.

2. The hotel may not permit her to enter.

3. Courtesy to families and other guests.

4. You're not going to be able to date the cute young thing in reception when she sees you parading around with hookers. And expect the special attention you've been getting from the secretary in the business center to disappear.

[Hung Man 1808]

This guy has moved over from the Bangkok threads after having his ass handed to him on a plate. Be warned.

It's always best to try and maintain a low profile wherever possible, especially when doing illegal activities! While the horror stories of the past regarding 'fix ups' seem to have diminished, it's best not to try your luck.

At the particular hotel in question I have been eyed up and down rather distastefully from delegates at Muslim conventions / conferences before. While dressed nicely and without a girl in sight. Other hotels also feature large conference turn outs of locals. The sort of behaviour described below isn't appreciated. Push your luck and which side will the hotel take? The heavy revenue, fill the hotel conference side or the one off dumb ass parading hookers through the lobby at all hours and dressing like a bum side?

And despite your best efforts, people DO notice. Even other guests. Don't wave it in their face.


1. Is your business partner queer? Be a man, not a.

2. If the hotel doesn't let her enter, then change hotels.

3. Courtesy to other families and guests? Who the fu*k gives a shit about other guests? Its your money. Enjoy it.

4. Oh boy, don't waste your time dating the receptionist, you are a newbie, hey man the old proverb "don't shit where you live"

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[Hung Man 1808]

I haven't checked pricing for a while (since the price climbed dramatically a few years ago) but I've just noticed this hotel must be aiming for the most web sites of any hotel in existence! Google it and you'll see.

What I'm trying to figure out is the current state of the rooms. The web site (s) are mostly showing non carpeted rooms with a fairly decent bathroom. However a few pictures are also showing the 'original' decor which consisted of red carpet, with the air con coming from a wooden shroud below the window. The 'renovation' I saw for these rooms basically consisted of moving the facilities around in the bathroom! That was the case anyway when I last stayed there late 2009. The internet was a bit of a hit and miss issue as well.

So, any further information from recent stayers? Are the superior rooms like the originals, with Deluxe upwards featuring the new look, or have they all changed? Just curious, considering the price difference between where I am staying lately and Atlet, I'm not in a rush to go back, though I am tiring of the 'why so far away' comments when I mention my hotel. Unless I'm picking up in Kota.

[Ozztraleearr]

This guy has moved over from the Bangkok threads after having his ass handed to him on a plate. Be warned.

It's always best to try and maintain a low profile wherever possible, especially when doing illegal activities! While the horror stories of the past regarding 'fix ups' seem to have diminished, it's best not to try your luck.

At the particular hotel in question I have been eyed up and down rather distastefully from delegates at Muslim conventions / conferences before. While dressed nicely and without a girl in sight. Other hotels also feature large conference turn outs of locals. The sort of behaviour described below isn't appreciated. Push your luck and which side will the hotel take? The heavy revenue, fill the hotel conference side or the one off dumb ass parading hookers through the lobby at all hours and dressing like a bum side?

And despite your best efforts, people DO notice. Even other guests. Don't wave it in their face. Have to agree with Mr Hung Man, Mr Bigy is a troll who was only interested in being as annoying as humanly possible. He adds no value whatsoever to the boards.

[Menteng]

Yo mod, we don't need haters on this board. Mr hung man won't get off my shit!Look, who's talking! Do you feel like a big guy now, reacting that way?

[Sapperken]

I'm changing my habits and I intend spending 1 whole week with just 1 girl who I have seen on a number of occasions. I have booked 6 nights at the Crowne Plaza and when making the booking I automatically recorded 2 occupants for my room.

So, to my questions (and please forgive the asking of them. I did try to find the answer in the forum) :

What documentation will my girl be required to show? I know that she is using a hookey ID card as she tells me that she would need to return to her native Semarang to renew it.

If they accept the documentation will they accept her? Last time I stayed at the IHG she stayed all week with no problems but I didn't check her in. If I check her in will it be considered acceptable?

Finally, should I cut the crap and amend my booking to single occupancy? Grin.

I'm quite keen on this girl and I would like to give her some respect (in spite of her colourful past) and treat her as a girlfriend and not as a w***e.

However, it will be an interesting time for me as she knows it is a complete leisure week. Last time I 'went to work' every day and enjoyed various spas etc during the day.

I would appreciate your help and also look forward to your thoughts on the folly or otherwise of 'going steady' with a Jakarta girl less than half my age.

SK

[Ceegee]

Hmm, SK if I was you I would just make it a single booking, and get two keys when you check in yourself and give her one.

That way you don't have to worry about her I'd situation, and also if the love affair ends before your week of fun ends, you can simply take her key off her and go back to your old ways! .

I'd be curious to know more about how you go, I'm thinking of something similar myself, but have not done it yet. Per my last post in the jakarta thread, there certainly is something appealing about a jakarta girl half my age, but I would want to go into it with my eyes wide open, ie I know she sees me as a source of funds, and I see her as a source of fun!

[Cuba Tourist]

If her name is on the hotel register, she can get access to the room and all your possessions when you are out so be sure you trust her.

[Sapperken]

If her name is on the hotel register, she can get access to the room and all your possessions when you are out so be sure you trust her.Thanks Cuba,

I already considered that and am prepared to take the usual precautions but I expect us to be in each other's company full time.

I appreciate the thought though.

SK

[Jo Malone]

Hi guys,

I am planning to go to Jakarta end of March and was looking for a good 5 star girl friendly hotel, the kind that doesn't require you to walk the walk of shame with I'd, registration, etc.

Also, it should be in the general nightclubs area, like Req Square and others.

Any suggestions are welcome.

[Sapperken]

Hmm, SK if I was you I would just make it a single booking, and get two keys when you check in yourself and give her one.

That way you don't have to worry about her I'd situation, and also if the love affair ends before your week of fun ends, you can simply take her key off her and go back to your old ways! .

I'd be curious to know more about how you go, I'm thinking of something similar myself, but have not done it yet. Per my last post in the jakarta thread, there certainly is something appealing about a jakarta girl half my age, but I would want to go into it with my eyes wide open, ie I know she sees me as a source of funds, and I see her as a source of fun! Thanks for the advice CG.

I met this girl through Asian Dating and she was just one of a string I'd lined up on one trip a few months ago. I liked her so much then that I cancelled a planned trip to another part of Indonesia so that I could spend some more time with her. When I was leaving at the end of the week she called me to say she had a gift for me and she was in the lobby. Unfortunately I was balls deep in my previous repeater at the time. I felt strangely guilty. She had to leave it. She still buys me gifts quite often.

On my next rip, as alluded to in another post, I claimed to be working and saw her off the premises every morning and met her late in the evening after 'dinner with coleagues'. It was really nice come home to her even after a hard day at the office LOL.

The mostly long distance relationship has developed into something more intense than I've entered into before which has made me stake stock of the facts as you refer to in your last paragraph.

I know she was balling half the white western visitors to Jakarta, I know when I met her she was still professing undying love to 2 other guys. I sort of kid my self that she is a freebie as I don't hand over a wad of rupiah when she leaves in the morning. However, when I take account of the odd few hundred rupiah here and there (even, dare I admit, from a distance) of course she is still getting a meal ticket.

She claims to have changed and god knows we video skype so much that, unless there is some guy shagging her out of site of the camera, she has little time for anybody else. But, let's face it, I'm under no illusions and as long as I don't hear about it, I will accept that her fucking some other bule will reduce her reliance on me (so give generously guys). Oh, and of course, when I'm not with her, I'm still shagging myself silly so old hypocrates will have a few words on the matter.

The truth is, I'm enjoying myself. She is sweet, beautiful and she makes me feel good. I hope it goes on for a long time. At the moment it is win / win.

SK

[KangK]

Hi SK, sounds like love is in the air m8! Thats what happens when you find a keeper or one that just makes you feeeeeeeellll real good. I'm speaking from personal experience and I know it's going to sound weird but you actually start to get sick of boning hundreds and hundreds of nubile nymphettes and meaningless sex. I'm actually laughing to oneself as I'm writing this but it's true. After years of priding myself on being a selfish self centred prick and caring only for my one eyed no brained "SI Otong", there comes a time you want a permanent girlfriend, a keeper so to speak. Si otong is a nice way in Indonesian to call your dick. Here is a line you must use with your girl,"Si Otong perlu dijinakkan karena dia nakal dan bandel". Translation, my dick needs to be tamed because he is naughty and cheeky. Always brings a laugh with the girls. Anyway I found my keeper and pay her to be my professional girlfriend so to speak. She has the second best set of tits I have ever come across, the best is the stripper at HC after 18. 00. Its funny though as we as blokes are egotistical pricks because we expect the chick to be faithfull and so she should be especially if your paying her, but in the same breath, I'm still looking for ways to get back to HC & HT to Free Willy so to speak. Anyway SK enjoy as long as she makes you feel good thats all that matters.

KK

[Jager]

Middle of 2009, I stayed at the Crown Plaza and saw another Westerner bring his "female friend' with him through the lobby towards the elevators. I was already near the elevator and we were together in one elevator going up. He managed to get her by the front desk / lobby guard on duty, without being questioned.

I don't know, if he has done this before with that girl, or if the guard just didn't care.

Too often, we are too worried what might happen if. I think with some luck and just walking with your friend, and making it clear she belongs with you, you can get her to the elevators / rooms in that particular hotel.

[Jaimito Cartero]

Bringing girls in during the day is much easier than at night. It also depends if the girl is dressed appropriately. If they look like a working girl, much more likely to have to register her.

[Gerald078]

Hi guys,

I am planning to go to Jakarta end of March and was looking for a good 5 star girl friendly hotel, the kind that doesn't require you to walk the walk of shame with I'd, registration, etc.

Also, it should be in the general nightclubs area, like Req Square and others.

Any suggestions are welcome.Hi Jo.

You can stay in Le Meridien hotel, Mulia, Shangri La, those hotels will not ask you anything and you can bring girls with you even 2 or 3 each night. I always stay in Le meridien and never had any question.

[John Marigold99]

I haven't checked pricing for a while (since the price climbed dramatically a few years ago) but I've just noticed this hotel must be aiming for the most web sites of any hotel in existence! Google it and you'll see.

What I'm trying to figure out is the current state of the rooms. The web site (s) are mostly showing non carpeted rooms with a fairly decent bathroom. However a few pictures are also showing the 'original' decor which consisted of red carpet, with the air con coming from a wooden shroud below the window. The 'renovation' I saw for these rooms basically consisted of moving the facilities around in the bathroom! That was the case anyway when I last stayed there late 2009. The internet was a bit of a hit and miss issue as well.

So, any further information from recent stayers? Are the superior rooms like the originals, with Deluxe upwards featuring the new look, or have they all changed? Just curious, considering the price difference between where I am staying lately and Atlet, I'm not in a rush to go back, though I am tiring of the 'why so far away' comments when I mention my hotel. Unless I'm picking up in Kota. I stayed at Century Park for two long stays last year. I was mostly very pleased. The location is excellent with Plaza Senayan and Senayan City Malls next door for eating, movies, shopping. Some girls I met online found it "more comfortable" to meet first at a mall rather than my hotel lobby. The deluxe rooms at Century Park are very nice. I stayed on the 16th floor which is the executive floor with the breakfast / lounge area. I spent my first two nights in a superior room which had not yet been renovated and didn't like it at all. It was also very noisy as you could hear the other nearby rooms on different floors being renovated. So I moved to the 16th floor. You could actually still hear som of the noise from renovations from the lower floors as the sound just moves right up the steel structures (I guess). Anyways, pretty goof breakfasts and friendly staff and very GF friendly. The back entrance to the hotel is nice (avoids passing by the front desk and lobby) , but closes at either 11PM or 12PM.

[Koperen Ko]

I haven't checked pricing for a while (since the price climbed dramatically a few years ago) but I've just noticed this hotel must be aiming for the most web sites of any hotel in existence! Google it and you'll see.

What I'm trying to figure out is the current state of the rooms. The web site (s) are mostly showing non carpeted rooms with a fairly decent bathroom. However a few pictures are also showing the 'original' decor which consisted of red carpet, with the air con coming from a wooden shroud below the window. The 'renovation' I saw for these rooms basically consisted of moving the facilities around in the bathroom! That was the case anyway when I last stayed there late 2009. The internet was a bit of a hit and miss issue as well.

So, any further information from recent stayers? Are the superior rooms like the originals, with Deluxe upwards featuring the new look, or have they all changed? Just curious, considering the price difference between where I am staying lately and Atlet, I'm not in a rush to go back, though I am tiring of the 'why so far away' comments when I mention my hotel. Unless I'm picking up in Kota. I'm a regular visitor to Indonesia and when I stay in Jakarta I have come to prefer the Atlet, especially so now the renovation is completed. During the (lengthy) renovation I was moved to the executive floor a number of times at no additional cost (benefit of being a regular customer).

The location of the hotel is quite good, close to Plaza Senayan and to Jalan Sudirman. Blok M is a short taxi ride away. The Atlet is absolutely GF. The people at the reception don't blink an eye when you walk in with one, two or three girls at any time of day or night. The beds are large enough to accomodate four, provided you have booked a room with a single kingsize bed and not twin beds.

Room rates are quite reasonable, especially when compared to Mulia and the like.

Excellent buffet breakfast.

Regards,

Ko

[WestCoast1]

I'm a regular visitor to Indonesia and when I stay in Jakarta I have come to prefer the Atlet, especially so now the renovation is completed. During the (lengthy) renovation I was moved to the executive floor a number of times at no additional cost (benefit of being a regular customer).

The location of the hotel is quite good, close to Plaza Senayan and to Jalan Sudirman. Blok M is a short taxi ride away. The Atlet is absolutely GF. The people at the reception don't blink an eye when you walk in with one, two or three girls at any time of day or night. The beds are large enough to accomodate four, provided you have booked a room with a single kingsize bed and not twin beds.

Room rates are quite reasonable, especially when compared to Mulia and the like.

Excellent buffet breakfast.

Regards,

KoForgot to mention the LARGE pool. In-room massage is 90 minutes for 150k, the girls always offer an extra goodie (for an outrageous price. 1 juta).

[KL Guy]

Look, who's talking! Do you feel like a big guy now, reacting that way?He probably has a lack of self confidence! Shows the kind of mentality he possesses or lack of!

[Master Diver II]

Thanks Cuba,

I already considered that and am prepared to take the usual precautions but I expect us to be in each other's company full time.

I appreciate the thought though.

SKSK,

If you're together the whole time, no need to register her. But hey it's your choice. If the room comes with 2 breakfasts, they don't care who eats them. But you could always keep stuff in the room safe. I was staying in a hotel with a girl exactly half my age too. But I registered the room under her name to take advantage of the cheaper rate I could get using her KTP.


Hi guys,

I am planning to go to Jakarta end of March and was looking for a good 5 star girl friendly hotel, the kind that doesn't require you to walk the walk of shame with I'd, registration, etc.

Also, it should be in the general nightclubs area, like Req Square and others.

Any suggestions are welcome. There are many hotels you could stay in: anything from Shangri-La, Le Meridien and Mulia. What you need to decide is your hotel budget. No need to register the girl in any of these (or most other) hotels. Please refer below.


1. Is your business partner queer? Be a man, not a.

2. If the hotel doesn't let her enter, then change hotels.

3. Courtesy to other families and guests? Who the fu*k gives a shit about other guests? Its your money. Enjoy it.

4. Oh boy, don't waste your time dating the receptionist, you are a newbie, hey man the old proverb "don't shit where you live"Guys,

I haven't logged in in a while and I noticed this response above.

1. Sometimes different people may have different sensitivities / points of view. So we may not wish to reveal another side of our own nature (common sense really unless you know someone well enough).

2. The only hotels in Jakarta that have any issue with girls coming to your room are the Syariah compliant hotels eg Sofyan chain. All the rest have NO ISSUES and it is entirely unnecessary to register your girl (unlike in Thailand). I have been in many hotels with girls in various types of outfits (from very classy to very "working girl") and have NEVER been stopped, queried or asked to register the girl. They may check with you when the girl is leaving however, to make sure everything is ok. WITH YOU. I sometimes book double occupancy and only turn up as one person checking in as I don't know whether the girl will end up staying for breakfast. I have not had any problems and I'm sure most hotels are familiar with what happens around town. So no need to be unduly concerned.

3. Being courteous to other guests is a matter of your own comfort. You might feel more at ease if the girl dresses in a less "obvious" fashion and you'd be surprised how many of them pack something more decent to wear in the morning; they too have some sense of modesty and while they don't mind the sexy clothing at night, normally hesitate to wander around like that in the daytime.

4. You can date the receptionist. But she'd lose her job really quickly if the management catches them "fraternizing" so if anything's possible they may suggest meeting you at another hotel. It does help if she doesn't see you go for the more obviously commercial girls (they do have pride) depending on why they want to meet you. There are some who are seeking a side income, some seeking pleasure and some seeking both - YMMV. I didn't realize that a senior member with around 600 posts was a newbie...

MD II

[Jo Malone]

Hi Jo.

You can stay in Le Meridien hotel, Mulia, Shangri La, those hotels will not ask you anything and you can bring girls with you even 2 or 3 each night. I always stay in Le meridien and never had any question.Thanks a ton Gerald078. I will probably end up staying in the LM, out of loyalt to SPG even though the tripadvisor reviews aren't that great.

[Mighty Spearsman]

Thanks a ton Gerald078. I will probably end up staying in the LM, out of loyalty to SPG even though the tripadvisor reviews aren't that great.I have no idea what the TripAdvisor reviews say about the "Le Meridien" hotel, but I do know that I've stayed there once and thought it was ok.

More importantly, Bulai69, one of the most respected Senior Members here on ISG, who usually visits Jakarta several times a year, always stays at Le Meridien.

My concern about Internet websites that review hotels is that these sites tend to attract negative reviewers, as those folks are pissed off and want to complain / vent, while the satisfied customer is more likely to not even bother to write a review.

If you do end up staying at Le Meridien, please post about it here - I'm curious to read what you think about it.

[Pussycheck]

I consider to stay in this hotel since it is in Blok M and very close in waltking distance to the Blok M bars.

Hotel Gran Mahakam Jakarta.

Jalan Mahakam I No. 6 Blok M.

It's a 5 star hotel, managed by Sofitel and it's price is reasonable.

My question:

Has anyone stayed there recently and can recommend this hotel?

I want to bring 2. 3 girls into my room every day (one by one). Do the people who work in the hotel ask for an I'd of the girls?

[Master Diver II]

Thanks a ton Gerald078. I will probably end up staying in the LM, out of loyalt to SPG even though the tripadvisor reviews aren't that great.I stayed there a few times and had no problems really. Stayed in the deluxe room each time though. Although I did once put two girls up in a superior room there. Forgive me if I didn't notice the difference as I was perhaps somewhat distracted. The only quibble I could think of was the shower control wasn't the most logical but there you go. Nice for a business and pleasure trip as the room is well equipped with internet and ironing board etc. The bed was king sized and a separate shower and bath tub with possibilities in the shower. Although you can't really have two girls in the shower with you. No problems bringing girls in at all. Maybe you might need to see your girls off so security won't hassle them for cash. But that's normal.

Hotel Gran Mahakam Jakarta.
I want to bring 2. 3 girls into my room every day (one by one). Do the people who work in the hotel ask for an I'd of the girls?
I have yet to have this problem in any hotel I've stayed in Jakarta so I'd be surprised if it happens to you - I've stayed in at least 15 different hotels there. The only hotels to avoid are the Syariah hotels (eg Sofyan group) otherwise you should be ok. There's no policy like Bangkok where you have to register the girl and pay the hotel for her to stay with you.

MD II

[Rocksoff]

My concern about Internet websites that review hotels is that these sites tend to attract negative reviewers, as those folks are pissed off and want to complain / vent, while the satisfied customer is more likely to not even bother to write a review.Sometimes also I prefer a basic hotel that doesn't attract the tourists who scan tripadvisor for a place to stay with the kids during their cultural vacation.

[Menteng]

I consider to stay in this hotel since it is in Blok M and very close in waltking distance to the Blok M bars.This is not an answer to your question, but what do you consider ïand walking distance"? Gran Mahakam is not located at the opposite or so of the Blok M bars. Especially at night, after 22. 00 pm I would prefer a safer means to commute between the two locations. As far as I know, Hotel Ambhara is the nearest one and you only have to cross the street (so to speak) to get to the bars.

[Nutty Smith]

GF for sure. No I'd checks. Very comfortable.

Close to Blok M Mall. A large multi story shopping centre. However, use a taxi to get to and from the Blok-M bars. They are located 1/4 mile away on the other side of the blok. Cheap, fast and safer than walking in the early hours.

NS.


I consider to stay in this hotel since it is in Blok M and very close in waltking distance to the Blok M bars.

Hotel Gran Mahakam Jakarta.

Jalan Mahakam I No. 6 Blok M.

It's a 5 star hotel, managed by Sofitel and it's price is reasonable.

My question:

Has anyone stayed there recently and can recommend this hotel?

I want to bring 2. 3 girls into my room every day (one by one). Do the people who work in the hotel ask for an I'd of the girls?

[Ozztraleearr]

This is not an answer to your question, but what do you consider ïand walking distance"? Gran Mahakam is not located at the opposite or so of the Blok M bars. Especially at night, after 22. 00 pm I would prefer a safer means to commute between the two locations. As far as I know, Hotel Ambhara is the nearest one and you only have to cross the street (so to speak) to get to the bars.Hotel Griyadi Pacific Blue is also located close to the Faletehan bars, geographically it is behind Top Gun. There are reports earlier in this forum on this hotel by myself and others.

[Non Olet]

Hotel Gran Mahakam Jakarta.

I want to bring 2. 3 girls into my room every day (one by one). Do the people who work in the hotel ask for an I'd of the girls? I recently stayed there and came back from Blok M with two girls at the same time (one ST and one LT) and nobody blinked an eye. When the ST girl left, she told me that I could stay in bed with the other because it was not nescessary to accompany her to the exit.

I agree: take a taxi.

Have fun,

NO

[Bbfs Hunter]

I stayed in the Mandarin Oriental for about 5 days during a month trip to Jakarta, and it was the best hotel I've stayed in Jakarta. By far.

I don't want to go too much into detail as it'll sound like I'm advertising for the hotel or something but its luxurious and GFriendly, and the location is spot on. Right across Grand and Plaza Indonesia, and close enough to both Kota and BlokM to be mongering several times a day.

Unfortunately, there is a bit walk of shame from the lobby to the elevator, but honestly I see mongers coming and going often so you won't be alone!

[Member #2041]

I stayed in the Mandarin Oriental for about 5 days during a month trip to Jakarta, and it was the best hotel I've stayed in Jakarta. By far.

I don't want to go too much into detail as it'll sound like I'm advertising for the hotel or something but its luxurious and GFriendly, and the location is spot on. Right across Grand and Plaza Indonesia, and close enough to both Kota and BlokM to be mongering several times a day.

Unfortunately, there is a bit walk of shame from the lobby to the elevator, but honestly I see mongers coming and going often so you won't be alone! Unfortunately, it can't be booked for $25 US plus 1200 SPG points (equivalent of $35 US more) per night. Which is what I paid for every Starwood property I stayed in in Indonesia, including Le Meridien and the Sheraton Media in Jakarta, as well as the extremely nice Sheraton Mustika in Jogya.

[KingJohn]

Hi guys, I'm visiting jakarta for business it the end of March. I like the pub / bar pick-up scene as you can observe the girls before you make your choice. I hear South Jakarta is great for this. I have been told some pretty scary stories about people being ripped off by Jakarta taxi drivers so I'm a little apprehensive of taxi rides at night. Can anyone suggest a good place to stay that is walking distance to the nightime action spots? And what are the best pplaces to meet lovely WLs? (or even normal girls)

[KangK]

Hi guys, I'm visiting jakarta for business it the end of March. I like the pub / bar pick-up scene as you can observe the girls before you make your choice. I hear South Jakarta is great for this. I have been told some pretty scary stories about people being ripped off by Jakarta taxi drivers so I'm a little apprehensive of taxi rides at night. Can anyone suggest a good place to stay that is walking distance to the nightime action spots? And what are the best pplaces to meet lovely WLs? (or even normal girls)I'll butt in before you get RTFF'd by one of the seniors. If you go back in the previous threads you will find heaps of info but I will steer you on the way. The Ambhara Hotel is within walking distance of Block M and is priced around 700. 900. If your a real monger you can even stay at Hotel Melawai in rooms 609, 610 or 611 which is right beside 5+1 Bar. Grand Kemang is good and great breakfasts but you will need to catch a taxi which is no problem as long as you catch a taxi from the Bluebird Group or even a Silver Bird. There are several other hotels close by to the Block also. You can start off at Sportsman Bar for some great Pork Spare Ribs (me being a good muslim KTP I fully recommend these) and some Wild Turkey bourbon to wash it down with. Then head off to D's Place from 8-10pm then Top Gun 10-12pm then My Bar 12. 4pm. This used to be my personalized routine but I have settled down a lot since I found myself a keeper around 15 months ago. Don't catch a taxi thats been waiting in the street but catch a bluebird as its driving past Jl Falatehan even though I must admit I have actually lost my wallet before in one of the taxis and the chick I was with new the street mafia guys and I actually got it returned to me 2 days later for 500k as it didn't have any money in it but had all of my credit & atm cards, OZ & Indo drivers licenses, medicare etc etc. So I didn't mind parting with 500k as it saved me so much stuffing around to make new ones and time is money!

[WestCoast1]

Hi guys, I'm visiting jakarta for business it the end of March. I like the pub / bar pick-up scene as you can observe the girls before you make your choice. I hear South Jakarta is great for this. I have been told some pretty scary stories about people being ripped off by Jakarta taxi drivers so I'm a little apprehensive of taxi rides at night. Can anyone suggest a good place to stay that is walking distance to the nightime action spots? And what are the best pplaces to meet lovely WLs? (or even normal girls)Getting a taxi in to the Blok is easy. Getting out: walk out of top gun, turn right with your girl. Ignore the touts from the street guys for a taxi. Walk to the end of the block (Sportsmen Bar on your left). When you get to the end of the block, there are regular Bluebird taxi's waiting.

[KingJohn]

Getting a taxi in to the Blok is easy. Getting out: walk out of top gun, turn right with your girl. Ignore the touts from the street guys for a taxi. Walk to the end of the block (Sportsmen Bar on your left). When you get to the end of the block, there are regular Bluebird taxi's waiting.Thanks mate, checked out the ambhara on the map, seems very close to to Blok M bars. What's Jakarta like at night? I mean is it quite safe to walk? Is Ambhara girl friendly? What's the walk of shame like? Sorry too many questions for a first time traveller to Jakarta!

[Non Olet]

Thanks mate, checked out the ambhara on the map, seems very close to to Blok M bars. What's Jakarta like at night? I mean is it quite safe to walk? Is Ambhara girl friendly? What's the walk of shame like? Sorry too many questions for a first time traveller to Jakarta!

No problem in walking around the Blok or to Ambhara, but if you go further (Melawi, Gran Mahakam or Gran Melia) do take a taxi. All hotels around the Blok (and the rest of Jakarta) are girl-friendly and there are so many "walks of shame" that nobody will notice. Stick to Blue Bird taxi's and avoid the touts in Jl Palatehan. Around the corner at the end of the street (from Top Gun turn right and from D's Place and My Bar turn left) are always Blue Bird taxis waiting. Even easier is to ask the girl you are leaving with to arrange a Blue Bird for you and she will contact the security guy or you ask the security guy yourself (be sure to state that you want Blue Bird). Before you go into the taxi you give the security guy 10 000 rups and the parking guy 2000 rups to secure their future sevices because they have a good memory .

I visited the Blok several times a year for about 10 years and never had any problem at all except that once, because of the bad pavement, I stumbled during a bandjir and my mobile phone washed away into the guttar.

Have fun.

NO

[Ceegee]

Thanks for the advice CG.

The truth is, I'm enjoying myself. She is sweet, beautiful and she makes me feel good. I hope it goes on for a long time. At the moment it is win / win. Hey SK were you in town last week by any chance? The one I posted about before made some lame excuses last week about why she could not see me, I know she was boning somebody else, I don't really care, this week she is all over me like stink on shit. :P

[Bkk212]

Hi Guys,

I stayed at the LM for 10 days in Dec / Jan 2011, it's fine. I too read the reports on Trp advisor and they are not all true. The hotel was clean, room was big, LD TV Limited English channels, gym was fine. It is pricey but it's fine no issues with the guards. Had a different girl everynight they didn't even blink an eye, just made their comments amongst themselves.

If it's within your budget then LM is fine as it's close to Blok M and it's on the busway during rush hour.


Thanks a ton Gerald078. I will probably end up staying in the LM, out of loyalt to SPG even though the tripadvisor reviews aren't that great.

[Handydan]

If just in Jakarta for the nightlife try and find a hotel near a mall, or a hotel with plenty to occupy you during the day because Jak City sucks during the day, heat, traffic and pollution.

#1 Swiss-Belhotel International Mangga Besar http://www.swiss-belhotel.com/sbmb/?subtask=sbmb

Superior / Delux room including Breakfast around the US $60, Great staff, service, food and GF fiendly. Good for a 2 day stop over and the Kota night life, price includes a free daily taxi to the Mall for shopping.

#2 Swiss-Belhotel Cipurta http://www.swiss-belhotel.com/Indonesia/Jakarta/jakarta-ciputra#hotel+information.

Superior / Delux room including breakfast around the US $70, A older hotel, a bit out of the way and in need of a face lift, average service and food, but is GF friendly and does have a Mall attatched, which has its benifits.

#3 Merlynpark Hotel http://www.merlynnparkhotel.com/

Superior / Delux room including Breakfast around the US $70, Brand spanking new, good location and crap service, from the door man to the managers, food average but GF friendly.

* Note all hotels where booked on agoda. Com, if you want to stay longer don't book at the front desk as the price will be higher, go to the buisness centre and book online through agoda and print out the reciept.

[Sapperken]

Hey SK were you in town last week by any chance? The one I posted about before made some lame excuses last week about why she could not see me, I know she was boning somebody else, I don't really care, this week she is all over me like stink on shit. :PI was in town from 27/02 to 06/03. Does that coincide with the time you are thinking about?

I had a week of holiday with my squeeze from 13/02 for a week I think we were only apart for about 20 minutes when she left me in a resto while she went back to her kost for some fresh clothes. I had a really good time, felt like I was courting again.

After a week back in the UK I returned for a week of work and she dutifully met me every evening after the obligatory social gatherings of colleagues.

Since then she has gone back to her kampong in central Java for a few days.

SK

[Ceegee]

I was in town from 27/02 to 06/03. Does that coincide with the time you are thinking about?LOL, that timing matches precisely. There are millions of nubile young things in jakarta, surely we are not boning the same one!

Trying to rack my brain, but pretty sure the first time I saw her last trip was 07/03, although she went home very late (like 1am) that night saying she had to video chat with her boyfriend. Saw her a couple of other days that week as well. It couldn't be the same one, could it?

[Sapperken]

Trying to rack my brain, but pretty sure the first time I saw her last trip was 07/03, although she went home very late (like 1am) that night saying she had to video chat with her boyfriend. Saw her a couple of other days that week as well. It couldn't be the same one, could it?Hahaha it could be, but the odds are increased as we all look for the same thing in the same places LOL. I won't give her name in open forum but pm me hers and we'll know if we are 'pussy brothers'.

SK

[Ceegee]

I won't give her name in open forum but pm me hers and we'll know if we are 'pussy brothers'.Same, I would not post it here, but I have not signed up for the paid plan here because I don't like the idea of a paper trail from here leading back to me.

Reading your previous posts, in order for it to be the same one, I think you would have to be boyfriend #2, and I would be #3, because she just got on an airplane today to go see #1. So maybe we are not sperm brothers, or maybe we are because you said she went kampung which could mean. Well, anything really. .

[Sapperken]

Reading your previous posts, in order for it to be the same one, I think you would have to be boyfriend #2, and I would be #3, because she just got on an airplane today to go see #1. So maybe we are not sperm brothers, or maybe we are because you said she went kampung which could mean. Well, anything really. .Alas, I would say we are probably not connected then. She was on the bus to kampong and SMS almost relentlessly and then sent dozens of Picts with her family.

This lady is 24, barely 5 feet tall (forgive me I'm British) and currently wears a brace, teeth not legs LOL (I'm seeing so many more of these being worn by 20 something's. It seems fashion has arrived in the dental industry in jakarta). She speaks pretty good English and is about to start work as a waitress. Anybody would notice us if they saw us out walking as I'm 6 feet 4inch and 50 so even in the land of mismatches we are unusual.

Anyway, if it's not you it will be somebody else. Maybe another bro will own up (don't all shout at once)

SK

[Monkey Pig]

Hi guys, I'm visiting jakarta for business it the end of March. I like the pub / bar pick-up scene as you can observe the girls before you make your choice. I hear South Jakarta is great for this. I have been told some pretty scary stories about people being ripped off by Jakarta taxi drivers so I'm a little apprehensive of taxi rides at night. Can anyone suggest a good place to stay that is walking distance to the nightime action spots? And what are the best pplaces to meet lovely WLs? (or even normal girls)I like to stay at Hotel Gran Mahakam. I've walked to Jalan Palatehan from there, but I don't recommend it as you'll be a bit sweaty (maybe an understatement.) I've tried all their rooms and the junior suite is my favorite. Taxis are simple. As others have stated, from Jl. Palatehan, you can avoid the con men and preman by walking to the end of the block where there will be some blue birds waiting. If you're staying in Jakarta, you'll probably end up taking a lot of taxis so you may as well learn the ropes and get used to it. It's not so bad. I'd prefer a taxi after a few too many than walking anyway. I've never tried Ambhara though so I can't say one way or the other on that.

[Vageterian]

In response to travelling by bluebird. I have found the service very lacking lately. As a bule the drivers tend to get lost on the longer rides, never carry correct change. All in all I prefer express taxi's and have never had a problem with them. When you get in a taxi if there is no meter, get right out. Nothing good can come of it

[KingJohn]

I like to stay at Hotel Gran Mahakam. I've walked to Jalan Palatehan from there, but I don't recommend it as you'll be a bit sweaty (maybe an understatement.) I've tried all their rooms and the junior suite is my favorite. Taxis are simple. As others have stated, from Jl. Palatehan, you can avoid the con men and preman by walking to the end of the block where there will be some blue birds waiting. If you're staying in Jakarta, you'll probably end up taking a lot of taxis so you may as well learn the ropes and get used to it. It's not so bad. I'd prefer a taxi after a few too many than walking anyway. I've never tried Ambhara though so I can't say one way or the other on that.Thanks mate, have booked Ambhara & will update all soon. Is Blok M Ok on a Monday night? Is there much going on? Don't want to waste a single night! If not what are the options nearby?

[John Marigold99]

Had a couple of recent stays at Grand Flora in Kemang. I highly recommend it. They have a very good long-term stay package (14 days or longer) of RP635,000 per night which includes breakfast. 4 pieces of free laundry each day, and a few other amenities. The hotel could use a little sprucing up, but the rooms are actually quite nice and clean. I think if they just changed the carpeting in the halls the place would look much better. Pool and fitness center on the top floor. I recommend asking for a room on the back side of the hotel as they are much quieter. The breakfast was perhaps slightly below average, but I'm fine just having an omelette or cereal so it didn't bother me. I think a big plus is being in the Kemang area. It is a very nice area to just walk around and find many nice cafes, restaurants, bars, etc. The fine Blok M establishments (Top Gun and My Bar) are usually just 10 minutes by taxi except on Friday and Saturday nights when Kemang traffic slows to a crawl between about 10 and 1AM or so. But IMHO, you just can't beat being in the Kemang area; I have not found a nicer area of Jakarta to stay in.

[KangK]

My company always puts me up in the Grand Kemang Hotel or if thats full in the Grand Flora.

The breaksfast at the Grand Kemang is really great and diverse both for Indonesians and Expats. The corporate rate is 625, 000. I don't mind the Grand Flora but like you said the breaksfast is mediocre especially compared to the Grand Kemang. Also Eastern Promise is just up and across the road from the Grand Kemang. The variety of bars, restaurants, food stalls is impressive and is also the best area I have stayed in Jakarta also.


Had a couple of recent stays at Grand Flora in Kemang. I highly recommend it. They have a very good long-term stay package (14 days or longer) of RP635,000 per night which includes breakfast. 4 pieces of free laundry each day, and a few other amenities. The hotel could use a little sprucing up, but the rooms are actually quite nice and clean. I think if they just changed the carpeting in the halls the place would look much better. Pool and fitness center on the top floor. I recommend asking for a room on the back side of the hotel as they are much quieter. The breakfast was perhaps slightly below average, but I'm fine just having an omelette or cereal so it didn't bother me. I think a big plus is being in the Kemang area. It is a very nice area to just walk around and find many nice cafes, restaurants, bars, etc. The fine Blok M establishments (Top Gun and My Bar) are usually just 10 minutes by taxi except on Friday and Saturday nights when Kemang traffic slows to a crawl between about 10 and 1AM or so. But IMHO, you just can't beat being in the Kemang area; I have not found a nicer area of Jakarta to stay in.

[KangK]

If any of you mongers are looking for a really nice boutigue hotel right in the middle of the action then stay at Sparks Hotel Jalan Mangga Besar Kota. When I'm in party mode or if I get dragged along by my crazy mates for a all night binge and end up at the Big House then I will stay at Sparks Hotel. Going rate for superior room is 600k but its best to stay in rooms 224 and 225 which are right beside the swimming pool. Awesome setup for a pool party with a few mates and some ceweks around the swimming pool for the arvo session as it has a really nice feel about it. Also the Massage and Spa is right beside the pool. The ground floor has one of the best setups for live bands with the band members walking from the stage behind the bar onto the front of the bar via a gangplank as then the pumping band is right in your face. Around 12 at night the strippers come out and the chick with the best rack I have ever seen in my whole life is now stripping at the Sparks as she is not at Hotel Classic anymore. A must see as her tits are absolutely impressive and firm. Must be 38c but rock solid and gorgeous. Within walking distance of Hotel Travel and Stadium (Big House). Also Jalan Mangga Besar is a really vibrant street at night time with all types of food stall hawkers street walkers, can drink cobra's blood and gall bladder mixed with honey, durians, you name it as this street is sooo full of life and alive. Awesome spot.

[Jack Mgl]

Just got to Jakarta yesterday and went to Malioboro (as the taxi driver suggested) ;

Cost me IDR100, 000 to get in, and another IDR450, 000 for a local girl. To be honest, I was kinda desperate for action last night and hence, she wasn't all that great. Would give her a 5/10 but my eyes were actually set on the local dancers on the bar, just too bad they were quoting me like IDR1mil for a session. Not too keen on that!

I just checked in at Gran Melia, and the place appears to be a dud place for hunting. Massage is so-so and expensive with not so attractive staff, and the pub Gaudi is a total rip off as its mostly empty without any WGs.

Any idea where I can head to next for a quick release or anywhere I can hunt for some good stuffs to bring back to my hotel?

[Member #2041]

If any of you mongers are looking for a really nice boutigue hotel right in the middle of the action then stay at Sparks Hotel Jalan Mangga Besar Kota. When I'm in party mode or if I get dragged along by my crazy mates for a all night binge and end up at the Big House then I will stay at Sparks Hotel. Going rate for superior room is 600k but its best to stay in rooms 224 and 225 which are right beside the swimming pool. Awesome setup for a pool party with a few mates and some ceweks around the swimming pool for the arvo session as it has a really nice feel about it. Also the Massage and Spa is right beside the pool. The ground floor has one of the best setups for live bands with the band members walking from the stage behind the bar onto the front of the bar via a gangplank as then the pumping band is right in your face. Around 12 at night the strippers come out and the chick with the best rack I have ever seen in my whole life is now stripping at the Sparks as she is not at Hotel Classic anymore. A must see as her tits are absolutely impressive and firm. Must be 38c but rock solid and gorgeous. Within walking distance of Hotel Travel and Stadium (Big House). Also Jalan Mangga Besar is a really vibrant street at night time with all types of food stall hawkers street walkers, can drink cobra's blood and gall bladder mixed with honey, durians, you name it as this street is sooo full of life and alive. Awesome spot.Is it quiet enough to actually get some sleep after midnight? I've heard that it's not.

[KangK]

On the 2nd Floor you can still hear and feel the bass vibrating up from the ground floor but I'm mainly speaking to the party animal punter where you sleep only during the day. Night time is for sex, enhancement and dancing.


Is it quiet enough to actually get some sleep after midnight? I've heard that it's not.

[Primo Bolan]

Ritz and Marriott have obviously tight security how about other hotels like Le-Mer. Atlet and Shangri-La?

[Menteng]

Any idea where I can head to next for a quick release or anywhere I can hunt for some good stuffs to bring back to my hotel?Head to the Blok M bars or hit Tiga Puluh at Le Meridien or CJ at Mulia (not Melia). Only take-aways there. If you want in-house action head north, Hotel Classic, Hotel Travel, Oasis etc, etc.

[Bigcebu]

Head to the Blok M bars or hit Tiga Puluh at Le Meridien or CJ at Mulia (not Melia). Only take-aways there.And cheaper take-away places? CJs and TP are very expensive places for mongering.

[Mighty Spearsman]

Had a couple of recent stays at Grand Flora in Kemang. I highly recommend it. They have a very good long-term stay package (14 days or longer) of RP635, 000 per night which includes breakfast. 4 pieces of free laundry each day, and a few other amenities.

The hotel could use a little sprucing up. Sprucing up? Ouch! This hotel opened in the fall of 2005, I remember stopping by there in December 2005 to check the long-stay room rate, and it had only been open for 1-2 months. Kind of sad to read that it needs sprucing up after being open for just over 5 years.

[Mighty Spearsman]

Ritz and Marriott have obviously tight security how about other hotels like Le-Mer. Atlet and Shangri-La?All 3 of the hotels you quoted have good security, in fact virtually every decent hotel in Jakarta (any hotel that the typical foreign non-backpacker who's not on a tight budget would stay in) would have good security.

[Primo Bolan]

And cheaper take-away places? CJs and TP are very expensive places for mongering.And now Menteng is going to let us know his best kept secrets.

[Master Diver II]

And cheaper take-away places? CJs and TP are very expensive places for mongering.Please take note that anywhere is as reasonably priced depending on your willingness to negotiate and walk away if necessary. You could try Delila and BATS too. The thing is that the girls are awfully good at spotting Jakarta rookies, and proceed to maximize their returns. Otherwise Red Square and X2 are options. Albeit you need a sharper eye here. Unless you're a bule.

MD II

[Raverboy]

... but I'm mainly speaking to the party animal punter where you sleep only during the day. Night time is for sex, enhancement and dancing.Yes, you called? :D

[Menteng]

And now Menteng is going to let us know his best kept secrets.Jack Mgl asked for directions and I gave them. In addition MDII pointed at BATS and Delila. Expensive or cheap wasn't mentioned and BigCebu qualified them as expensive, to which I agree. Although, it depends on your oral skills (pun?) how much money is going to be traded. And of course, if you look like MDII, things will go a lot easier.

But to stick to the subject, I rely upon the best nightlife guide of Jakarta: Jakarta After Dark II

[Tommy Suharto]

I just checked in at Gran Melia, and the place appears to be a dud place for hunting. Massage is so-so and expensive with not so attractive staffYeah. I know, tell me about it. For a better value massage you could try Delta Spa. It just a short distance from the Melia, across the road almost. Corner Jl Gatot Subroto and Jl Rasuna Said (where the Melia is ). You would have to get lucky for FS, but they do HJ. Type it in as a search key, you get all the info out, cheers.

[Member #4537]

Anyone stayed at Travel Hotel itself?

[Jack Mgl]

Yeah. I know, tell me about it. For a better value massage you could try Delta Spa. It just a short distance from the Melia, across the road almost. Corner Jl Gatot Subroto and Jl Rasuna Said (where the Melia is ). You would have to get lucky for FS, but they do HJ. Type it in as a search key, you get all the info out, cheers.
Jack Mgl asked for directions and I gave them. In addition MDII pointed at BATS and Delila. Expensive or cheap wasn't mentioned and BigCebu qualified them as expensive, to which I agree. Although, it depends on your oral skills (pun?) how much money is going to be traded. And of course, if you look like MDII, things will go a lot easier.

But to stick to the subject, I rely upon the best nightlife guide of Jakarta: Jakarta After Dark IIBro Menteng & Bro Tommy,

Thanks for the heads up! Will definitely try to check out those places and share if I find a gem.

Cheers guys

[Fast Eddie 48]

Anyone stayed at Travel Hotel itself?To EGY.

I check out the room about 2 yr ago didn't stay it is a dump so I got a room at spark instead only 5 min walk, spend a few buck more it is a much better hotel around 55 USD a night.

Fast Eddie 48

[KangK]

Anyone stayed at Travel Hotel itself?Yeah Egy, I stayed in a Deluxe Room for 550k around 2 1/2 years ago and was really good and handy. Walk into the lounge room with toilet near the door then walk into the separate bedroom area with jacuzzi and ensuite but no wall so everything is open. Went downstairs and arranged a really nice cewek to come up for 3 hours but bloody expensive during the day. A lot cheaper after midnight as 850k all night. There is actually another entrance just near where you walk into the foyer section of the cewek area, a set of stairs going straight up to the first floor where you catch a lift to your room floor.

[Member #4537]

To EGY.

I check out the room about 2 yr ago didn't stay it is a dump so I got a room at spark instead only 5 min walk, spend a few buck more it is a much better hotel around 55 USD a night.

Fast Eddie 48
Yeah Egy, I stayed in a Deluxe Room for 550k around 2 1/2 years ago and was really good and handy. Walk into the lounge room with toilet near the door then walk into the separate bedroom area with jacuzzi and ensuite but no wall so everything is open. Went downstairs and arranged a really nice cewek to come up for 3 hours but bloody expensive during the day. A lot cheaper after midnight as 850k all night. There is actually another entrance just near where you walk into the foyer section of the cewek area, a set of stairs going straight up to the first floor where you catch a lift to your room floor.Thank you for your replies. Do you think Spark or Hotel Travel would be open during Ramadan this year?

[KangK]

Thank you for your replies. Do you think Spark or Hotel Travel would be open during Ramadan this year?Hotel Travel, Alexis Hotel, Malioboro, Hotel Classic will all be open during Ramadhan as they obviously have the right contacts. There are one or two days where they will close due to observing religious rights. Also one of the owners is connected with the Betawi Youth Group as are some of the police. Thats why I love Indonesia money and contacts and you can do almost anything you want unfortunately there are a lot more people with money and contacts than myself.

[Member #4537]

Hotel Travel, Alexis Hotel, Malioboro, Hotel Classic will all be open during Ramadhan as they obviously have the right contacts. There are one or two days where they will close due to observing religious rights. Also one of the owners is connected with the Betawi Youth Group as are some of the police. Thats why I love Indonesia money and contacts and you can do almost anything you want unfortunately there are a lot more people with money and contacts than myself.Thank you again, KangK. One last question: is there a decrease in quality or quantity during Ramadan at any of the above-mentioned places?

[Jritz]

Thank you again, KangK. One last question: is there a decrease in quality or quantity during Ramadan at any of the above-mentioned places?I can only say for alexis htl, malioboro, and classic htl (but I guess it's same arrangements for most of smlr establishments in Jakarta).

As stated by KangK, during ramadhan time they will running their services as usual. They will however close the bordeillos, spas facilities during the Hari Raya time (2 or 3 days). Yet they won't close the hotel service, and if you have the agent (mamasans / papasans) contacts then you can do business as usual by means you can open a room in the hotel, and the agent will bring the girls for you to choose in your room, or you can just book out the girl out.

Some insights:

- believe it or not, you actually can get lower prices than usual for the wls during ramadhan / hari raya in those places, esp for the imports, due the lower demands during that time, just negotiate with the agent. It's a stock-market afterall.

- it is true however the quality and quantity for wls (esp. Local indonesians) are somewhat decreasing during that time (due to religions, and also to go back to their hometowns). But basically no decreasing qlty / qty for imports.

- all bars, clubs, discos and spas (those that don't have hotel service) will be closed (for 1 full month.) though. So it's overall down time for mongering.

[Lord Scumbag]

I'm arriving in Jakarta for the first time on Wednesday and staying for two nights. I'm on a tight budget. I'm planning on staying in a super cheap backpackers place in Jalan Jaksa ( 70k per night) , maybe even a hostel dorm, and then just taking a room for short time with a girl from Blok M, maybe Malioboro? It offers short time (up to 6hrs) rates of 200k, which seems to be as cheap as it gets for GF hotels. Are there any others that are cheaper or similar rate?

This way I get everything I want for about 270k per night (200k for short time in Marioboro + 70k for my luggage and extra sleep in Jalan Jaksa). Am I going to save money this way, given my taxi rides to-and-from Jalan Jaksa, or am I better off just paying a bit extra to stay at one of the IBIS hotels in Kemang, which seem to go for about 410k per night? Could I negotiate that rate lower or are the prices reasonably "fixed"?

[Member #4537]

Seeing as Travel Hotel does not have a website, how is it possible to make a booking or reserve a room at the hotel part of their service? Do they have a telephone number?

[Menteng]

I'm arriving in Jakarta for the first time on Wednesday and staying for two nights. I'm on a tight budget. I'm planning on staying in a super cheap backpackers place in Jalan Jaksa (70k per night) , maybe even a hostel dorm, and then just taking a room for short time with a girl from Blok M, maybe Malioboro? It offers short time (up to 6hrs) rates of 200k, which seems to be as cheap as it gets for GF hotels. Are there any others that are cheaper or similar rate?

This way I get everything I want for about 270k per night (200k for short time in Marioboro + 70k for my luggage and extra sleep in Jalan Jaksa). Am I going to save money this way, given my taxi rides to-and-from Jalan Jaksa, or am I better off just paying a bit extra to stay at one of the IBIS hotels in Kemang, which seem to go for about 410k per night? Could I negotiate that rate lower or are the prices reasonably "fixed"?

A. Lately there have been postings about the Jalan Jaksa (JJ) effect on girls.
B. In the Lokasari district you can find cheaper hotels if it's only for 6 hours.
C. How much do you plan to spend on the girl? The 200K in Malioboro is only for the room!

[Lord Scumbag]

A. Lately there have been postings about the Jalan Jaksa (JJ) effect on girls.

B. In the Lokasari district you can find cheaper hotels if it's only for 6 hours.

C. How much do you plan to spend on the girl? The 200K in Malioboro is only for the room! Thanks for your response.

A. I haven't come across those reports, but presumably they'll just dismiss me as poor? Won't bother with me? Charge extra? If that's the case, then the girls don't need to know that I'm staying there. I can simply tell the girl that I'm staying with a friend and cannot take her there, and that we must go to Malioboro (or wherever).

B. Any tips or names would be very much appreciated. I'm not being lazy here. I've read the last 7 pages of this thread and not found mention of hotels in that district (or at least none that I recognise).

C. I know. I wasn't including the girl in that calculation. Presumably I'll pay the going rate for the girl. I haven't read through the main section yet. It's the hotels I want organise now.

[John Marigold99]

or am I better off just paying a bit extra to stay at one of the IBIS hotels in Kemang, which seem to go for about 410k per night? Could I negotiate that rate lower or are the prices reasonably "fixed"?There are no IBIS hotels in Kemang. I suspect you meant "Kota". Hope this is helpful.

[KangK]

Seeing as Travel Hotel does not have a website, how is it possible to make a booking or reserve a room at the hotel part of their service? Do they have a telephone number?You can check out the link Jakarta 100 Bars in classified section also. Hotel Travel Ph: 0216012721, Fax: 0216293810

[Master Diver II]

I'm arriving in Jakarta for the first time on Wednesday and staying for two nights. I'm on a tight budget. I'm planning on staying in a super cheap backpackers place in Jalan Jaksa (70k per night) , maybe even a hostel dorm, and then just taking a room for short time with a girl from Blok M, maybe Malioboro? It offers short time (up to 6hrs) rates of 200k, which seems to be as cheap as it gets for GF hotels. Are there any others that are cheaper or similar rate?

This way I get everything I want for about 270k per night (200k for short time in Marioboro + 70k for my luggage and extra sleep in Jalan Jaksa). Am I going to save money this way, given my taxi rides to-and-from Jalan Jaksa, or am I better off just paying a bit extra to stay at one of the IBIS hotels in Kemang, which seem to go for about 410k per night? Could I negotiate that rate lower or are the prices reasonably "fixed"? There are no Ibis hotels in Kemang. But you can refer to this link: http://www.ibishotel.com/gb/booking/hotels-list.shtml

Maybe you mean Kota (Mangga Dua) or the two on Jl Wahid Hasyim. Rates are pretty fixed, but for a little extra, you get a decent hotel that girls do follow you back to. You can then even get her to stay overnight and wake up to a very pleasant BBBJ in the morning. In addition, you'll save on taxi fare as the hotels in Wahid Hasyim are slightly nearer to Blok M than Malioboro, and you don't need to pay for an extra trip to get you back to your hotel after you've finished with the girl.

[Menteng]

Thanks for your response.

A. I haven't come across those reports, but presumably they'll just dismiss me as poor? Won't bother with me? Charge extra? If that's the case, then the girls don't need to know that I'm staying there. I can simply tell the girl that I'm staying with a friend and cannot take her there, and that we must go to Malioboro (or wherever).

B. Any tips or names would be very much appreciated. I'm not being lazy here. I've read the last 7 pages of this thread and not found mention of hotels in that district (or at least none that I recognise).

C. I know. I wasn't including the girl in that calculation. Presumably I'll pay the going rate for the girl. I haven't read through the main section yet. It's the hotels I want organise now. A. Only when you invite them to accompany you, you might get the JJ reaction.

B & C. Recently I mentioned that 95% of the action, North of Jakarta I. E. Mangga Besar, Kota and Pangeran Jayakarta, takes place on the location. So do not bother about checking in a short-time hotel. Malioboro charges 200K (VAT included?) , a girl charges about 300K for a short session. Hotel Travel, Hotel Classic etc charges about 400K. Do the math!

Different story about Blok M girls. You will need a short-time hotel. I know hotel Golden in the Melawai complex. Others have mentioned other ones. Check if My Place or better known as Bali Hai is still there. Just around the corner from where the blok M bars are located.

Forget about the girls from BATS, CJ and Tiga Puliuh. They are used to perform on the premises: five star hotels.

Other option: girls in JJ itself.

[Member #4537]

You can check out the link Jakarta 100 Bars in classified section also. Hotel Travel Ph: 0216012721, Fax: 0216293810Tried to call that number but it appears to be offline!

How about Peninsula Hotel? Isn't that nearby to Hotel Travel and Lokasari Plaza?

http://www.peninsula-jakarta.com/

Standard rooms are 330, 000 IDR, which is a bargain for that area I think.

[Key Master]

I'm arriving in Jakarta for the first time on Wednesday and staying for two nights. I'm on a tight budget. I'm planning on staying in a super cheap backpackers place in Jalan Jaksa (70k per night) , maybe even a hostel dorm, and then just taking a room for short time with a girl from Blok M, maybe Malioboro? It offers short time (up to 6hrs) rates of 200k, which seems to be as cheap as it gets for GF hotels. Are there any others that are cheaper or similar rate?

This way I get everything I want for about 270k per night (200k for short time in Marioboro + 70k for my luggage and extra sleep in Jalan Jaksa). Am I going to save money this way, given my taxi rides to-and-from Jalan Jaksa, or am I better off just paying a bit extra to stay at one of the IBIS hotels in Kemang, which seem to go for about 410k per night? Could I negotiate that rate lower or are the prices reasonably "fixed"? Man, are you sure you can afford this trip? Do you realize the costs? I think you should consider a hotel like Hotel Melawai I or II in the Blok M area if you are going to mainly be doing Blok M at night. Or consider a hotel like the Maharadja Hotel. These kind of hotels are like 1-2 stars but combining what you think you may pay for a room in JJ and then pay for a short time room somewhere else, it's probably not worth all the hassle to be taking all the taxi rides. You'll have to get another taxi after you do the deed to get back to your bed after wards. In the daytime, maybe you can take those buses to get to those other areas that you are trying, but I'm not an expert here, but from my past experiences I'm not sure how your plan is going to save you money. I don't even know if you can afford what you are doing or even know the costs.

[KangK]

Tried to call that number but it appears to be offline!

How about Peninsula Hotel? Isn't that nearby to Hotel Travel and Lokasari Plaza?

http://www.peninsula-jakarta.com/

Standard rooms are 330, 000 IDR, which is a bargain for that area I think. I just rang the number myself and no problemo. Remember if your ringing from Australia must drop the 0 so number would be 0011 62 216012721

[Non Olet]

..... Check if My Place or better known as Bali Hai is still there. Just around the corner from where the blok M bars are located....Yesterday it still was. Funny place for the late afternoon and they have rooms upstairs. A bit more precisely: In Palatehan walk towards the bus station, then two times left turn and the second house from the corner (with columns and black glass doors). Some like it and some hate it!

Have fun,

NO

[KangK]

Yesterday it still was. Funny place for the late afternoon and they have rooms upstairs. A bit more precisely: In Palatehan walk towards the bus station, then two times left turn and the second house from the corner (with columns and black glass doors). Some like it and some hate it!

Have fun,

NOOtis Elevators used to have a big sign right beside it so it used to be quite easy to spot. I have only been there once back in the mid 90's but thought it had closed down as I could never find it again after the Otis sign was taken down. Nice to know its still there as the Old Boys used to hang out there and probably still do. I won't be going back tho.

[Non Olet]

Otis Elevators used to have a big sign right beside it so it used to be quite easy to spot. I have only been there once back in the mid 90's but thought it had closed down as I could never find it again after the Otis sign was taken down. Nice to know its still there as the Old Boys used to hang out there and probably still do. I won't be going back tho.The only sign left is a small and faded advertisement of Bali-Hai beer above the entrance.

NO

[Livers]

Guys,

Goin to jakarta for the first time I have been to Bali before and am going again but spendin to nights in Jakarta for work at the hyatt. Girlfriendly? Is it in a good location for nightlife? Any info will be greatly appreciated and I will surley post a report on my return.

[KangK]

The only sign left is a small and faded advertisement of Bali-Hai beer above the entrance.

NOIf its the same place it used to be called the Club

[Cooze Hound]

If its the same place it used to be called the ClubStill the same place yes. And most people seem to call it the Club.

[Non Olet]

Guys,

Goin to jakarta for the first time I have been to Bali before and am going again but spendin to nights in Jakarta for work at the hyatt. Girlfriendly? Is it in a good location for nightlife? Any info will be greatly appreciated and I will surley post a report on my return. No problems with girls. The hotel is above Plaza Indonesia, where you can spot WG's inside and outside the place. Within walking distance of the Hard Rock Cafe, which is also decent hunting ground and about 30-40K taxi ride to Blok M (depending on the traffic). About the same amount to Stadium and less to BATS (Shangri Lah hotel) , CJ (Hotel Mulia) or Tiga Puluh (le Meridien). We surely will appreciate your report.

NO

[Menteng]

If its the same place it used to be called the ClubMust be. I've known the place as Bali Hai while in a different forum it was referred to as The / My Club.

[MarkIII]

Within walking distance of the Hard Rock Cafe, which is also decent hunting ground

NONot sure about that one. Last few times I visited it was almost dead. I wouldn't go there.

[Vageterian]

Getting back to jakarta soon and trying to book a smoking room online. Most of the 4 and 5 stars are showing only non smoking rooms. Anyone stay at any good 4 or 5 star hotels lately that are sure fire smoking locations. Recently ready a Jakarta post article and it is reporting most major hotels will be going non smoking. That is not good for our smoking members and our quests. I mean this is jakarta and it is all relative but if anyone knows a good one please let me know.

[Richmond72]

Getting back to jakarta soon and trying to book a smoking room online. Most of the 4 and 5 stars are showing only non smoking rooms. Anyone stay at any good 4 or 5 star hotels lately that are sure fire smoking locations. Recently ready a Jakarta post article and it is reporting most major hotels will be going non smoking. That is not good for our smoking members and our quests. I mean this is jakarta and it is all relative but if anyone knows a good one please let me know.I recently booked a room at the Le Meridien Jakarta based on the positive freedback from this thread and they offered a choice of king-smoking or king-non-smoking when I booked.

[Vageterian]

I recently booked a room at the Le Meridien Jakarta based on the positive freedback from this thread and they offered a choice of king-smoking or king-non-smoking when I booked.I even looked at Le Meridien and it said only non smoking as the choice, I guess maybe you can request on arrival. But it sucks to have to leave the room at 2 am for a smoke. No way I would leave any woman alone with my luggage LOL. Thanks that was one of my first choices, I will check it out again

[Stabilo Boss]

I even looked at Le Meridien and it said only non smoking as the choice, I guess maybe you can request on arrival. But it sucks to have to leave the room at 2 am for a smoke. No way I would leave any woman alone with my luggage LOL. Thanks that was one of my first choices, I will check it out againHi,

I stayed in Le Meridien last year and I'll stay again this year.

Good medium$ hotel, not far from block m.

Last year it was possible to have a smoking room, but I didn't know if they changed policy.

Enjoy,

Boss

[John Marigold99]

Getting back to jakarta soon and trying to book a smoking room online. Most of the 4 and 5 stars are showing only non smoking rooms. Anyone stay at any good 4 or 5 star hotels lately that are sure fire smoking locations. Recently ready a Jakarta post article and it is reporting most major hotels will be going non smoking. That is not good for our smoking members and our quests. I mean this is jakarta and it is all relative but if anyone knows a good one please let me know.Atlet Century Park definitely has smoking and non-smoking rooms.

[Non Olet]

............. But it sucks to have to leave the room at 2 am for a smoke. No way I would leave any woman alone with my luggage LOL..............
Just book a room with a balcony. Nothing beats an 'after-the-deed' smoke and a glass of tax-free whisky with a girl in an open bathrobe in the free air far above the traffic.

No problem leaving a woman alone with you luggage: if you lock your suit cases: no girl would ever walk unnoticed past security with a locked guest-suitcase........... LOL.

NO

[Member #2041]

Just book a room with a balcony. Nothing beats an 'after-the-deed' smoke and a glass of tax-free whisky with a girl in an open bathrobe in the free air far above the traffic.

No problem leaving a woman alone with you luggage: if you lock your suit cases: no girl would ever walk unnoticed past security with a locked guest-suitcase. LOL.

NOOther than breathing fresh air and drinking something I actually like the taste of, with my girl in an open bathrobe, that is.

[Danibbler]

Am looking at the Peninsula Hotel for a possible stay in May. Does anyone know if their WiFi service is free and is in the rooms? I sent them an email but no reply. Thanks.

[Member #4410]

Atlet Century Park definitely has smoking and non-smoking rooms.I seem to remember the Atlet has smoking and non-smoking floors. Will check when I come to Jakarta next month.

Atlet Century is one of my favourite hotels.

Regards,

Karel (formerly known as Ko, but I forgot my login codes)

[Member #4410]

Getting back to jakarta soon and trying to book a smoking room online. Most of the 4 and 5 stars are showing only non smoking rooms. Anyone stay at any good 4 or 5 star hotels lately that are sure fire smoking locations. Recently ready a Jakarta post article and it is reporting most major hotels will be going non smoking. That is not good for our smoking members and our quests. I mean this is jakarta and it is all relative but if anyone knows a good one please let me know.Seems to me the major reason for staying at a 5 star hotel is bragging rights.

3 Star hotels in Jakarta provide excellent beds (Atlet beds are large enough for a comfortable 4-some, I can vouch for that) and excellent breakfast.

I don't know about other hotels, bot Atlet has smoking floors so why bother with highbrow hotels?

Regards,

Karel (formerly known as Ko, but I lost my login codes)

[Vageterian]

Seems to me the major reason for staying at a 5 star hotel is bragging rights.

3 Star hotels in Jakarta provide excellent beds (Atlet beds are large enough for a comfortable 4-some, I can vouch for that) and excellent breakfast.

I don't know about other hotels, bot Atlet has smoking floors so why bother with highbrow hotels?

Regards,

Karel (formerly known as Ko, but I lost my login codes) I went with the Le Meridien for the last weekend of may. Mostly just to use up my starwood points or I would definately go with your recommendation. Talking to north american customer support for the Le meridien group, apparently most rooms are smoking unless otherwise requested non smoking. The reason for my concern was a jakarta post article about major hotels going non smoking until I realized it was pre election bs

[Menteng]

The reason for my concern was a jakarta post article about major hotels going non smoking until I realized it was pre election bsI think it is to attract bule's to those hotels. How long can they hold on to that? An Indonesian without his kretek? Actually I remember, one day when I was leaving Bali Hai / The Club years ago, people were booked for smoking in the street (!). It means that there's a law already on smoking in public. But relax, three days after the introduction of the law, everybody was smoking in the street again.

[Member #4194]

I think it is to attract bule's to those hotels. How long can they hold on to that? An Indonesian without his kretek? Actually I remember, one day when I was leaving Bali Hai / The Club years ago, people were booked for smoking in the street (!). It means that there's a law already on smoking in public. But relax, three days after the introduction of the law, everybody was smoking in the street again.Most of the hotel's in Jakarta have an option of non smoking and smoking units. Like wise me, sometimes I do check in at the Mulia, Manhattan and JW Marriot. No issue at all. Those none smoking law in Jakarta you can keep it in your pocket actually. I do agreed with Menteng that the law's of indonesian is only on paper's, but on practical it will be no use at all. If you been caught, just give them red notes times two.

[Ken Shamrod]

I might be going to Bali in October. After research on this site, I think I will stay in Bali for two nights and fly to Jakarta for 3 nights. I have never been and am very excited to go. The only problem is trying to figure how things work there. I looked through all the post and gathered some intel. I don't know if I got it right though. This is what I usually do when I go to other places.

For example, if I go to the Philipines, I will stay around P Burgos. Many women and nice 4 star hotels. I would take Taxi's to the Saunas or Edsa complex for fun. The reason I stay their because its close to the malls, shopping, and other things to do. But really my main focus is being around all the women.

Same as Thailand, I will stay close to Nana Plaza but venture out to the saunas. As well as HK, I will stay in Wan Chai so I can have fun at all the bars and quickly get back to my place.

Never being to Indonesia, I really don't know where to stay? I'm a little confused? Is Block M like the p burgos, nana, wan chai area of indonesia? Should I stay around there? Is their another place I should be looking at? Where should I set up base (Hopefully a place that walking distance from freelancers and good night life like Wan Chai or P burgos? Recomendations would be helpful. Thank you so much.

[WestCoast1]

Never being to Indonesia, I really don't know where to stay? I'm a little confused? Is Block M like the p burgos, nana, wan chai area of indonesia? Should I stay around there?Block M is equivalent in Manila as Manila Bay Cafe (formerly LA Cafe). Its 3 bars on one street block, filled with freelancers. Not at all like Burgos or EDSA, where there is a barfine. If you want nice hotel near the Blok, try Ambhara.

[Key Master]

I might be going to Bali in October. After research on this site, I think I will stay in Bali for two nights and fly to Jakarta for 3 nights. I have never been and am very excited to go. The only problem is trying to figure how things work there. I looked through all the post and gathered some intel. I don't know if I got it right though. This is what I usually do when I go to other places.

For example, if I go to the Philipines, I will stay around P Burgos. Many women and nice 4 star hotels. I would take Taxi's to the Saunas or Edsa complex for fun. The reason I stay their because its close to the malls, shopping, and other things to do. But really my main focus is being around all the women.

Same as Thailand, I will stay close to Nana Plaza but venture out to the saunas. As well as HK, I will stay in Wan Chai so I can have fun at all the bars and quickly get back to my place.

Never being to Indonesia, I really don't know where to stay? I'm a little confused? Is Block M like the p burgos, nana, wan chai area of indonesia? Should I stay around there? Is their another place I should be looking at? Where should I set up base (Hopefully a place that walking distance from freelancers and good night life like Wan Chai or P burgos? Recomendations would be helpful. Thank you so much. Why don't you break down like price points for both hotel and women and what kind of mongering you plan to do? Ambhara Hotel is within walking distance to blok m bars and can get you blue birds or silverbird taxis at your request as you leave there. You have a mall across the street from there also. It all depends on you though.

Blok M bars is a freelancer scene. The street itself is really small and the bars are limited. Either way, you'll be taking taxis to go to places, just because that's the way it is gong to be there. One area won't likely keep you satisfied for everything.

[Ken Shamrod]

Why don't you break down like price points for both hotel and women and what kind of mongering you plan to do? Ambhara Hotel is within walking distance to blok m bars and can get you blue birds or silverbird taxis at your request as you leave there. You have a mall across the street from there also. It all depends on you though.

Blok M bars is a freelancer scene. The street itself is really small and the bars are limited. Either way, you'll be taking taxis to go to places, just because that's the way it is gong to be there. One area won't likely keep you satisfied for everything.Thank you so much for your time. I went back a little deeper and it seems a lot of people stay at Ambhara Hotel. After taking your advice, it seems that you will just need to take taxi's to get where you want to go. In that case, I was thinking of a 5 star. Price is not too much of issue. I guess I'll try the Sangria La? Any better places?

In the past I used to stay at cheap hotels to save money but my stuff got stolen a few times. I'll be working and will have a lot of expensive equipment with me. Its worth the extra $200 a night for me. Checked it out on google map. It said it was 3 miles from M Block and 3 miles the other way to Malibro. As for the mongering, I'll be solo so I guess I'll check out all the top sauna's and will probably check out some of the bars at M Block. Clubs might be kind of awkward since I'm by myself. Again, Thank you so much for advising me. I feel a little bit more confident about the trip.

[Key Master]

Thank you so much for your time. I went back a little deeper and it seems a lot of people stay at Ambhara Hotel. After taking your advice, it seems that you will just need to take taxi's to get where you want to go. In that case, I was thinking of a 5 star. Price is not too much of issue. I guess I'll try the Sangria La? Any better places?

In the past I used to stay at cheap hotels to save money but my stuff got stolen a few times. I'll be working and will have a lot of expensive equipment with me. Its worth the extra $200 a night for me. Checked it out on google map. It said it was 3 miles from M Block and 3 miles the other way to Malibro. As for the mongering, I'll be solo so I guess I'll check out all the top sauna's and will probably check out some of the bars at M Block. Clubs might be kind of awkward since I'm by myself. Again, Thank you so much for advising me. I feel a little bit more confident about the trip. I think you'll need to do more research on Jakarta. Read and read. If you are working and need to be at a certain location in the morning, you may want to consider the commute from your hotel. Traffic can be pretty bad in the daytime in different areas and different times. Traveling late night is not so bad. Blok M bars are somewhat on the lower end, so I'm wondering if you'd feel out of place there or not, considering your spending limit on hotel.

[Master Diver II]

I guess I'll try the Sangria La? Any better places?

In the past I used to stay at cheap hotels to save money but my stuff got stolen a few times. I'll be working and will have a lot of expensive equipment with me. Its worth the extra $200 a night for me. Checked it out on google map. It said it was 3 miles from M Block and 3 miles the other way to Malibro. As for the mongering, I'll be solo so I guess I'll check out all the top sauna's and will probably check out some of the bars at M Block. Clubs might be kind of awkward since I'm by myself. Again, Thank you so much for advising me. I feel a little bit more confident about the trip. Shangri-La? If you're paying USD 200 extra a night for a decent hotel, you might want to try www.agoda.com Or check with the two main local booking agencies (Indotel and KAHA). I'm sure you can get a better rate. Mind you, if your trip is in October, you have plenty of time to plan. In addition, Key Master makes a lot of sense; you need to balance out where you have work (and at what time) together with what time you are setting aside for "recreation". The traffic can screw your plans royally if you haven't taken it into account. Good luck.

MD II

[Cooze Hound]

Thank you so much for your time. I went back a little deeper and it seems a lot of people stay at Ambhara Hotel. After taking your advice, it seems that you will just need to take taxi's to get where you want to go. In that case, I was thinking of a 5 star. Price is not too much of issue. I guess I'll try the Sangria La? Any better places?If the price is not so much of an issue, then either the Shangri La or the Mulia. I say this as both places have good quality clubs on the premises where you can pull a girl straight up to your room. Girls in those place will initially ask high prices but please do not pay through the roof.

The clubs are CJ's (Mulia Hotel) and BATS (Shangri La).

The Mulia is quite close to Blok M.

[Ken Shamrod]

You guys are great! Cooze Hound, Master Diver II, Key Master, and West Coast 1. Thank you for all the useful information! I can't wait to go. Feeling much more comfortable about everything.

[Hungry Expat]

Normally I stay at the Shangri-La Hotel or other 5 star hotels.

This time I will only be one night in Jakarta for transit.

That's why I want to stay in a bit cheaper hotel.

I am thinking to stay in one of these hotels:

Santika Premiere.

Atlet Century.

Aryaduta.

Which hotel is the best?

I can not find anything about the Aryaduta and also the Santika reports are quite old.

[Cooze Hound]

Normally I stay at the Shangri-La Hotel or other 5 star hotels.

This time I will only be one night in Jakarta for transit.

That's why I want to stay in a bit cheaper hotel.

I am thinking to stay in one of these hotels:

Santika Premiere.

Atlet Century.

Aryaduta.

Which hotel is the best?

I can not find anything about the Aryaduta and also the Santika reports are quite old. Well there are at least 2 Aryaduta's now in Jakarta. The Semanggi branch is well located, beside the mall and has a good 24 hr mini market just outside.

Only. 5 minutes to Blok M at night as is the Atlet Century Park. Both the hotels I mention here are absolutely fine on all counts and if you are only here for a night then just take the best deal.

[Master Diver II]

Normally I stay at the Shangri-La Hotel or other 5 star hotels.

This time I will only be one night in Jakarta for transit.

That's why I want to stay in a bit cheaper hotel.

I am thinking to stay in one of these hotels:

Santika Premiere.

Atlet Century.

Aryaduta.

Which hotel is the best?

I can not find anything about the Aryaduta and also the Santika reports are quite old. As Cooze Hound mentioned, there are two Aryadutas: Aryaduta Suites Semanggi and Aryaduta Hotel (Kebon Sirih area?). The one in Semanggi is more like a service apartment and (to me) better located. Atlet Century would not be my first choice and if I was staying, I'd go for the Executive rooms (but I think you can get better for the same money). I don't know anyone who has stayed at the Santika Premiere. You might also want to look at Citadines (service apartment in Wahid Hasyim at the junction with Jaksa. But no mistake it's a nice little business class hotel with a nice bistro in front. Ocha and Bella) Akmani hotel (also on the same road just a bit behind Sarinah Thamrin) or Millennium Sirih (on the opposite end of Kebon Sirih compared to Aryaduta).

MD II

[Hungry Expat]

Thanks for the informations.

I will try the Akmani hotel then.

I haven't known the hotel before but it looks nice and has good references.

[Vageterian]

Checked in the end of April when I arrived in Jakarta. First night was the standard room which was ok, got the smoking room I wanted. The room was clean and the internet was wi-fi or wired if you choose to plug in. There was a dinner buffet for 180000rp which was not worth it in my opinion, but the food was pretty good. But for that price there are much better options.

Went down to tiga puluh around midnight and the selection was ok but prices were not worth it. Starting around 800000 st. These same women will be in the blok in a few hours at a much reduced price.

The second night I upgraded to the club room which was a much better value. The free lounge on the 14 th floor is worth the extra 40 USD because you get free appetizers and free pour hard liquor and beers. I had an internet honey come over for the second night and we enjoyed the lounge in the evening and went up for the free breakfast buffet. Great selection and fresh.

All in all I would stay again. Much more reasonably priced than the mulia and marriot or ritz. They are good if you are on an expense account. But if you want a nice hotel that won't bankrupt you, try the Le Meridien

[Hungry Expat]

By Arrival was asked for an upgrade to a Suite.

I think I paid less then 1 Mio Rupiah for a Suite incl. Breakfast.

I didn't check out the breakfast buffet.

Free WiFi at the lobby and in the room Internet via kabel.

Everything was clean and nice.

Only Problems:

- only 2 elevators- so sometimes some waiting time.

- the lobby is at the 1st floor and you have to walk the stairs up (about 2 floors before you reach the entrance)

- I don't know the normal room but in the Suite room the bathroom has a glass wall to the bedroom.

If you go to toilet or take a shower your gf can watch you.

Price and service was Ok.

[Blacka0]

By Arrival was asked for an upgrade to a Suite.

I think I paid less then 1 Mio Rupiah for a Suite incl. Breakfast.

I didn't check out the breakfast buffet.

Free WiFi at the lobby and in the room Internet via kabel.

Everything was clean and nice.

Only Problems:

- only 2 elevators- so sometimes some waiting time.

- the lobby is at the 1st floor and you have to walk the stairs up (about 2 floors before you reach the entrance)

- I don't know the normal room but in the Suite room the bathroom has a glass wall to the bedroom.

If you go to toilet or take a shower your gf can watch you.

Price and service was Ok.You don't have to walk the stairs just when you at the front of the hotel enter the garage on the left or right and enter the elevator there it also very handy when you want to bring your escort to your room no need to go by the front desk.

[Vageterian]

By Arrival was asked for an upgrade to a Suite.

I think I paid less then 1 Mio Rupiah for a Suite incl. Breakfast.

I didn't check out the breakfast buffet.

Free WiFi at the lobby and in the room Internet via kabel.

Everything was clean and nice.

Only Problems:

- only 2 elevators- so sometimes some waiting time.

- the lobby is at the 1st floor and you have to walk the stairs up (about 2 floors before you reach the entrance)

- I don't know the normal room but in the Suite room the bathroom has a glass wall to the bedroom.

If you go to toilet or take a shower your gf can watch you.

Price and service was Ok. Looks like a decent hotel for the price Hungry expat. On the website the prices quoted seemed high. Were you there for the weekend rate.

[Master Diver II]

By Arrival was asked for an upgrade to a Suite.

I think I paid less then 1 Mio Rupiah for a Suite incl. Breakfast.

I didn't check out the breakfast buffet.

Free WiFi at the lobby and in the room Internet via kabel.

Everything was clean and nice.

Only Problems:

- only 2 elevators- so sometimes some waiting time.

- the lobby is at the 1st floor and you have to walk the stairs up (about 2 floors before you reach the entrance)

- I don't know the normal room but in the Suite room the bathroom has a glass wall to the bedroom.

If you go to toilet or take a shower your gf can watch you.

Price and service was Ok. Bro,

I'm sorry you suffered but, as Blackao said, you can go either side of the stairs and take the lift from the garage. Very useful if you don't want to be seen in the lobby. Useful for both entering and leaving (I had to sneak a girl out that way while another one was waiting for me in the lobby:D).

I don't know about the suite, but the Grand Deluxe room, Deluxe etc have a roller blind so you can cover the glass (on the bedroom side - not in the bathroom) to preserve your modesty. But the glass makes for some interesting moments.;)

Breakfast is basic. But I normally take a light breakfast anyway. Normally yogurt, fruits and maybe an egg (there is an egg station).


Looks like a decent hotel for the price Hungry expat. On the website the prices quoted seemed high. Were you there for the weekend rate.I think you'll find that Indotel and Kaha offer better rates. I know a certain other member managed to get a corporate rate of 700k for the Grand Deluxe room (which is all you'll really need).:)

MD II

[Peter Lexton]

One of my friends was "kidnapped" by a woman in a Jakarta club, who drove him to a compound just outside the ring road, where she pulled up at the guardhouse, paid for a number of hours, got a key, drove into the garage and proceeded to violate my friend. He says this place seems to work like a drive-in, hour based, serviced luxury townhouse, designed for extramarital sex. Problem is he did not take nore where it is. Do anyone have information on such facilities?

[John Aldrich]

One of my friends was "kidnapped" by a woman in a Jakarta club, who drove him to a compound just outside the ring road, where she pulled up at the guardhouse, paid for a number of hours, got a key, drove into the garage and proceeded to violate my friend. He says this place seems to work like a drive-in, hour based, serviced luxury townhouse, designed for extramarital sex. Problem is he did not take nore where it is. Do anyone have information on such facilities?Hi Peter,

I myself have submitted reports on this. One of the report iseven linked to the reports of distinction. There is one on Jalan M T Haryono, next to Carrefour and it's called Pondok Nirwana. There is a sign board which has PN written with an arrow mark. There are a couple in Fatmawati and a few in Kelapa Gading. Am sure other areas in Jakarta will also be having them.

Cheers

[Peter Lexton]

Dear John, thank you so much for your response to my question on drive-in townhouses. I live in Kemang. I assume Fatmawati might be the closest. Can you remember the locations of these. I cannot find the report you mention. Maybe a link to it? Please be patient with a newbie. Peter

[Primo Bolan]

Stayed there 7 nights in may. Deluxe room. 6th floor. About 110US / night.

Nice room but I had to turn off the AC. It was to cold and the floor in the bathroom was like walking on ice,

Had to place the sandals outside and put them on before entry. Every girl I had in the room complained about it to be to cold. Two nights and I began to caugh. Lucky me there was a waterheater and tea in room.

I liked this hotel though it seems that Jakarta is expensive when compare to BKK.

The staff was very helpfull with any Q.

If I want just to sit and drink tea or a beer I went to the lobby bar, nice place to sit and relax, watching people.

Wifi of course and nice food, tasty ceasar sallad, with tea of course. I never used the pool because it was bad weather all the time and I had a very hectic schedule with JAD. The restaurant have nice buffets but kind of pricy. I ate both breakfast and dinnerbuffet a few days.

I never had a look around so I don't know anything about it other what I have read here.

The location is OK because it is in the middle but as always when speaking about Jakarta when going somewhere.

You have to get used to the trafficjam. Taking girls into the hotel was simple and smoth. Nobody asked anything.

-Have a nice evening sir. If it was LT it didn't felt so god to go down to the lobby with the girl. Especially when

A bunch of western students, waiting to checking in or out.

A couple of evenings and nights I went to Tiga Puluh Club. Its a nice club with a couple of FLs. They also have some livebands. The ladys were a bit old and I never found anyone really that I would like to have in my room. Bargain hard and they went down to 400k. All in all nice hotel, with a very nice staff, but it will be north Jakarta next time for me.

PB

[Geriatno]

Hi all:

Have searched this forum but haven't really found what I am looking for. Affordable ($5-600) one month rental in central / north Jakarta. It can be an apartment / studio or a hotel room. I noticed Take Mansion but the write up said it was hard to get to.

Any suggestions? I will be in Jakarta for about a month in August, and am looking for a decent apartment / studio. Internet, A / C, cleanliness, and decent location, are all I need.

Thanks much.

G

[John Aldrich]

Dear John, thank you so much for your response to my question on drive-in townhouses. I live in Kemang. I assume Fatmawati might be the closest. Can you remember the locations of these. I cannot find the report you mention. Maybe a link to it? Please be patient with a newbie. PeterHere is the link. Go to the report on Pondok Nirwana

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2450-Jakarta-Hotels&p=493773

[Bbfs Hunter]

Decided to stray from my usual set of hotels (mandarin / mercure) and going with crowne plaza when I come into Jakarta next week.

Read through all crowne plaza reports and looking at google maps, it seems this hotel is far from where I usually play (manga besar, hayam wuruk). Could anyone enlighten me on the average taxi time between kota and crowne plaza? How would you rate the location?

I would go to tripadvisor for reviews, but I value you guys' opinion much more. Thanks in advance!

[Menteng]

Decided to stray from my usual set of hotels (mandarin / mercure) and going with crowne plaza when I come into Jakarta next week.

Read through all crowne plaza reports and looking at google maps, it seems this hotel is far from where I usually play (manga besar, hayam wuruk). Could anyone enlighten me on the average taxi time between kota and crowne plaza? How would you rate the location?

I would go to tripadvisor for reviews, but I value you guys' opinion much more. Thanks in advance! It depends on the time of day how long the ride will be. If you plan to go north during the day, I would recommend the TransJakarta bus. Outside rush hours it will take about 25 minutes to arrive at busstop Mangga Besar or Olimpo. Avoid the Semanggi junction when leaving the hotel by taxi. In my opinion it is better to take the Kuningan route.

The hotel itself has a discotheque, but I can't recall an FR. The hotel is located next to Plaza Semanggi. A couple of discotheques there, food courts and you might try mall-hunting. I would rate the location a 6, as to almost every mongering destination there will be a detour.

[Bbfs Hunter]

Thanks Menteng, it sounds like the location is not ideal for mongering. Definitely will look into Semanggi although I didn't have good luck in picking up mall girls before.

BTW, will you be in Jakarta this month good sir?


It depends on the time of day how long the ride will be. If you plan to go north during the day, I would recommend the TransJakarta bus. Outside rush hours it will take about 25 minutes to arrive at busstop Mangga Besar or Olimpo. Avoid the Semanggi junction when leaving the hotel by taxi. In my opinion it is better to take the Kuningan route.

The hotel itself has a discotheque, but I can't recall an FR. The hotel is located next to Plaza Semanggi. A couple of discotheques there, food courts and you might try mall-hunting. I would rate the location a 6, as to almost every mongering destination there will be a detour.

[Hotman 666]

Hi Gentlemongers,

I will be visiting Jakarta soon (my first trip for MANY years!) The hotel that my host company want to book for me is Hotel Aryaduta Jakarta.

Jl. Prapatan 44-48

Jakarta 10110.

I have RTFF but there is little current information there.

Could any of you local guys tell me if there are opportunities for finding a 'playmate' in this area? (I believe that it is North of the centre.) or how far I may have to travel for a "little FUN."

My preference is usually to hunt the bars, coffee shops or malls rather than nightclubs as I have to be up rather early for work most days.

I am assuming that the hotel is G. F. But would appreciate confirmation.

I would be most grateful for any information, either by pm or by posting.

Thanks, in advance for any help you can give.

Hotman.

[Potentie45]

Hi Gentlemongers,

I will be visiting Jakarta soon (my first trip for MANY years!) The hotel that my host company want to book for me is Hotel Aryaduta Jakarta.

Jl. Prapatan 44-48

Jakarta 10110.

I have RTFF but there is little current information there.

Could any of you local guys tell me if there are opportunities for finding a 'playmate' in this area? (I believe that it is North of the centre.) or how far I may have to travel for a "little FUN."

My preference is usually to hunt the bars, coffee shops or malls rather than nightclubs as I have to be up rather early for work most days.

I am assuming that the hotel is G. F. But would appreciate confirmation.

I would be most grateful for any information, either by pm or by posting.

Thanks, in advance for any help you can give.

HotmanI stayed for three years in this hotel as one of their long staying guests. I enjoyed my days there very very much. Downstairs you will find nightclub The Tavern with a splendid choice of girls; pro's and non pro's. Close by you will find USA president Obama's favorite shopping mall "Sarinah"; a good place for making contact with non pro's. Sarinah is situated at the Jl. Wahid Hasym. During night and evening you can find there girls and in the Jl. Jaksa, the street for bag packers. Close to Sarinah you have the Plaza Indonesia shopping mall, well-known for rendez-vous purposes. And the biggest shopping mall of Jakarta is just 50 m away from Plaza Indonesia. B. A. T. S (Bar At The Shangrila) is close by to Plaza Indonesia. Once again: Aryaduta is a good choice.

[John Marigold99]

Aryaduta is a good choice in many respects. I stayed there about 2 years ago for a few weeks. Definitely GF friendly and good value for the money. Breakfasts were good and the fitness center is excellent. Rooms are fine, but nothing special. Atrium mall is about a 5 minute taxi ride away, and I found a gorgeous super-thin (less than 80lb) spinner there who became a sort-of late afternoon gf for me. She was awesome in bed, like a true GF in EVERY respect, and never asked for money. Of course, I took care of her very well. If you go to Atrium mall about 3 PM or so, you will meet some nice girls who like to hang out after school. The mall itself is one of the lower class malls in Jakarta, but I wasn't interested in the "regular kind" of shopping. In terms of location, Aryaduta is conveniently located between Kota and Blok M. Taxis to / from Blok M in the evenings won't take very long at all. The only negative (to me) was the general lack of lower-priced restaurants within walking distance of the hotel.


Hi Gentlemongers,

I will be visiting Jakarta soon (my first trip for MANY years!) The hotel that my host company want to book for me is Hotel Aryaduta Jakarta.

Jl. Prapatan 44-48

Jakarta 10110.

I have RTFF but there is little current information there.

Could any of you local guys tell me if there are opportunities for finding a 'playmate' in this area? (I believe that it is North of the centre.) or how far I may have to travel for a "little FUN."

My preference is usually to hunt the bars, coffee shops or malls rather than nightclubs as I have to be up rather early for work most days.

I am assuming that the hotel is G. F. But would appreciate confirmation.

I would be most grateful for any information, either by pm or by posting.

Thanks, in advance for any help you can give.

Hotman.

[Hotman 666]

Thanks for the information guys.

You are 'Gentlemen and Scholars! '

Your updates are most helpful and I will ask my hosts to confirm a booking there.

Regards,

Hotman.

[Kretek]

Mid July I will stay in Jakarta Grand Kemang for several days. Is tehe anything to do in or aroud this place.

[Mighty Spearsman]

Mid July I will stay in Jakarta Grand Kemang for several days. Is there anything to do in or aroud this place.I stayed at this hotel 19 years ago and stopped by there a few times during 2005-09. The Kemang area was pretty dead in 1992 but is much more lively now. The hotel is located south of downtown, at the beginning of the "Kemang" area, which is partly-middle-class-residential. Staying at the hotel, you'll be smack in the middle of a lot of restaurants / bars that are frequented by expats and families who live nearby, and you'll be a 10-minute taxi cab ride from Blok M, one of the main mongering areas discussed here.

Biggest downside will be the traffic if you need to get into and out of downtown during the daytime rush hours. During rush hours you might even be better off to take the Transjakarta Bus between Blok M / Pasar Raya and downtown, then take a cab between Blok M and the hotel.

Even at night it could take you 1/2 hour to get from say, Kartika Spa or Stadium Night Club (located in the northern part of Jakarta) to your hotel.

Yes the hotel is girl-friendly, in fact you'll be approached by young ladies in the lobby, even in the upstairs hallways, asking you if you'd like her to come to your room for a "massage."

Enjoy!

[Neufie]

Just a quick note.Grand Flora has management and name, now called Swiss BelHotel.Taxi will only know it as Grand Flora.

http://swiss-belhotel.com/jakarta/indonesia/jakarta-kemang#hotel+information.

As with Reports for Grand Flora, nice enough hotel, room a little small, bathroom is with a walk in shower, functional.Internet is free and they are running a promotion, which gets the basic room at about $67 / night all in.Seems an ok area, though I just got here.

[On The Road]

Hi, need some help here.

I'm going to Jakarta for my first time.

I RTFF, but most of the message are about 4 or 5 star hotels I can't afford.

I do need some advice about a cheap hotel. I hope in the 300k range.

It should be in a good mongering area, of course girl friendly and accettable.

Any suggestion will be really appreciated. Thanks.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hi, need some help here.

I'm going to Jakarta for my first time.

I RTFF, but most of the message are about 4 or 5 star hotels I can't afford.

I do need some advice about a cheap hotel. I hope in the 300k range.

It should be in a good mongering area, of course girl friendly and accettable.

Any suggestion will be really appreciated. Thanks.To On the road

It not easy to find a nice decent hotel in Jarkata for under 300 k, I stay at the Olympic hotel last yr behind the infamous Lopasari plaza at Manga besar area walking distance to Hotel travel 350 k for a business room and 380k for deluxe is ok for budget business travler, if you want to spend a little more spark hotel for 450 k is much better, there are hotel in the area less than 300k but if you want to stay in a dump go for it.

Fast Eddie 48

[On The Road]

To On the road

It not easy to find a nice decent hotel in Jarkata for under 300 k, I stay at the Olympic hotel last yr behind the infamous Lopasari plaza at Manga besar area walking distance to Hotel travel 350 k for a business room and 380k for deluxe is ok for budget business travler, if you want to spend a little more spark hotel for 450 k is much better, there are hotel in the area less than 300k but if you want to stay in a dump go for it.

Fast Eddie 48Thanks a lot for your suggestions, Fast Eddie.

I found the Spark hotel but it seems to be a little bit more expensive. 65us$ for a superior room on his website.

About Olympic hotel I just find some tripadvisor review but no way to book rooms, nor I found its website nor I was able to book a room in other ways.

[KL Guy]

Hi OTR! Try contacting this motel @ http://www.sofiresidence.com/. It's located in Central Jakarta & is nice & clean from what I've heard although I've not stayed there yet! The price according to them is 330,000 without breakfast but they're fully booked till August according to them! Best to book in advance! :)


Thanks a lot for your suggestions, Fast Eddie.

I found the Spark hotel but it seems to be a little bit more expensive. 65us$ for a superior room on his website.

About Olympic hotel I just find some tripadvisor review but no way to book rooms, nor I found its website nor I was able to book a room in other ways.

[On The Road]

Hi OTR! Try contacting this motel@

http://www.sofiresidence.com/

It's located in Central Jakarta & is nice & clean from what I've heard although I've not stayed there yet! The price according to them is 330, 000 without breakfast but they're fully booked till August according to them! Best to book in advance! .Hi KL, and thanks a lot for your suggestion. This seems what I was looking for!

I tried to contact them, and they asked the name of the second guest as I booked a double room. Are you sure they are girl friendly?

[Ronin500]

To On the road

It not easy to find a nice decent hotel in Jarkata for under 300 k, I stay at the Olympic hotel last yr behind the infamous Lopasari plaza at Manga besar area walking distance to Hotel travel 350 k for a business room and 380k for deluxe is ok for budget business travler, if you want to spend a little more spark hotel for 450 k is much better, there are hotel in the area less than 300k but if you want to stay in a dump go for it.

Fast Eddie 48Hi FE48,

Would you consider staying at Hotel Travel? In the review on Agoda, everyone seemed to complain about the noise from the bar at Sparks.

Also, will there still be some girls working during Ramadan?

Ronin

[KL Guy]

According to my friend who stayed there, they're but this info is based on 1 year ago & almost all hotels / motels / inns / apartments are girl friendly except for the Muslim Based Hotels & this 1 is defiantly not! It's a motel/inn run by a white guy with his girl friend/wife! Have fun in Jakarta!


Hi KL, and thanks a lot for your suggestion. This seems what I was looking for!

I tried to contact them, and they asked the name of the second guest as I booked a double room. Are you sure they are girl friendly?

[Member #4410]

I seem to remember the Atlet has smoking and non-smoking floors. Will check when I come to Jakarta next month.

Atlet Century is one of my favourite hotels.

Regards,

Karel (formerly known as Ko, but I forgot my login codes) I stayed a couple of weeks in Atlet Century over the past months. Most floors

Are now non-smoking.

Very girl-Friendly. Shella, Wulan and Silvi all came to my room in various combinations.

Regards,

Ko

[Vageterian]

Hi OTR! Try contacting this motel@

http://www.sofiresidence.com/

It's located in Central Jakarta & is nice & clean from what I've heard although I've not stayed there yet! The price according to them is 330, 000 without breakfast but they're fully booked till August according to them! Best to book in advance! .I stayed there last December and it is more like a kost. There are 3 floors and the rooms vary in price the higher the floor. It is walking distance to setiabudi one and ambassador mall. It is a good place and clean. Everytime I brought a girl back her I'd was recorded by security. You literally need to walk 10 feet to buy strret food or anything you would get from a warung. Interent and satalite tv are provided as well. The staff did give me a sideways glance everytime I walked in with a girl though. The owner I believe resided in Hk and was never on site. I did not get the impression they were that girl friendly . Especially if a working girl . One other thing . It is located kind of on a back street so taxi drivers can give you the run around and for the first couple days , easy to get lost in all those side streets . Try 68 or 61 karet pedurenan . On a busier street and 2 min walk to ambassador mall where you can easily get a taxi or anything else for that matter .

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hi FE48,

Would you consider staying at Hotel Travel? In the review on Agoda, everyone seemed to complain about the noise from the bar at Sparks.

Also, will there still be some girls working during Ramadan?

RoninTo Ronin 500,

I have check out their room before very small spark hotel is much better just book the room on the higher floor, hotel travel room is around 400 k or try the Olympic hotel at 340 k room is better there too but book lower floor here because the KTV is on the 4 floor.

Fast Eddie 48

[Tbahn80]

Anyone have any recomendations for 5 star girl friendly hotels. I am thinking shangri la, ritz carlton, hotel mulia, or mandrin oriental? Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance

[Tbahn80]

Also, What about 5 star hotel bars. Love finding high quality working girls in the hotel bars that I stay in. Which 5 star hotels are good for this?

Thanks again

[Tbahn80]

Which has the best hotel bar for picking up girls these days? I've tried to do a thread search and everything that I have found so far dates back to 2009 and earlier. I need some updated info before making my decision on which place to stay. I'm making my decision strictly based on the women. I know both hotels should be nice. Please let me know your thoughts! Regards!

[Fast Eddie 48]

Which has the best hotel bar for picking up girls these days? I've tried to do a thread search and everything that I have found so far dates back to 2009 and earlier. I need some updated info before making my decision on which place to stay. I'm making my decision strictly based on the women. I know both hotels should be nice. Please let me know your thoughts! Regards!To Tbahn80,

There been many post about this 2 hotel disco you are just too damn lazy to search, you want someone to do all work for you, I am telling you this is a hit and miss all depend if you go at the right time or not both club is only 15 min away by taxi so you can just check it out yourself.

Fast Eddie 48

[Tbahn80]

To Tbahn80,

There been many post about this 2 hotel disco you are just too damn lazy to search, you want someone to do all work for you, I am telling you this is a hit and miss all depend if you go at the right time or not both club is only 15 min away by taxi so you can just check it out yourself.

Fast Eddie 48Fast Eddie,

First, Is it not the purpose of this forum to help others out? I'm not too lazy. I just don't have all day to sit around and search every thread in the forum. Second, don't be such a dick. Everyone on here just wants some ass. Help a brother out instead of be a dick

[Menteng]

Fast Eddie,

First, Is it not the purpose of this forum to help others out? I'm not too lazy. I just don't have all day to sit around and search every thread in the forum. Second, don't be such a dick. Everyone on here just wants some ass. Help a brother out instead of be a dickNice start, brother! Fast Eddie is right. Use the "search" function in this forum and you'll get your answers! It will take less than 10 minutes.

Yes we're here to help, but we also expect some effort by you. And please don't start flaming, you'll ruin it for yourself.

[Tbahn80]

Which has the best hotel bar for picking up girls these days? I've tried to do a thread search and everything that I have found so far dates back to 2009 and earlier. I need some updated info before making my decision on which place to stay. I'm making my decision strictly based on the women. I know both hotels should be nice. Please let me know your thoughts! Regards!This was my previous post. I posted this right before the one that you responded to. My apologies for snapping. I did search as you can see. I just was wanting some updated info thats all.

TB

[Bkk212]

Hi Guys,

Just returned from another wonderful Jakarta trip. However this time instead of staying in a hotel which I regularly do. I stayed in an apartment. While not on the main street and not close to any malls. Staying in an apartment is worth researching for those of you who are regular visitors.

The advantages: less costly than hotels, more privacy.

The disadvantages: maybe a bit further away from main streets, no daily room service (unless you request it) , no 24 hr restaurants.

This time I stayed at Surdirman park apartments, it's close to Shangri-La hotel. For me it was a bit better than staying in a hotel as I can move around without feeling guilty. Although there were security at the apartments the front desk 'walk of shame' I avoided.

Next time I will try staying at the Thamrin residences behind Plaza Indonesia.

You can rent the apartments, daily or weekly, in some apartments not all of them. So some researching has to be done.

But if someone is looking for an alternative choice of accomodations I would recommend thinking about renting an apartment.

BTE, I paid 400, 000 (IDR) per night at the apartment, whereas Ambhara was 660, 000, Le Meridien 970, 000, Merlynn Park 535, 000.

And THe Akmani 635, 000 (all numbers from KAHA) , I have used KAHA extensively in the past so I know the MO.

Just a thought for those who want a bit more privacy. In the past I was reluctant to bring back 2 or more girls to the hotel (yes I know many of you have done it before). But staying at the apartment it was much easier to do.

[Menteng]

This was my previous post. I posted this right before the one that you responded to. My apologies for snapping. I did search as you can see. I just was wanting some updated info thats all.

TBMaybe you should use BATS or Bats or B. A. T. S as keyword for the Shangrilla bar and CJ for the Mulia bar. There are some recent postings on Bats anyway.

I didn't look for CJ.

[KangK]

Hi Guys,

Just returned from another wonderful Jakarta trip. However this time instead of staying in a hotel which I regularly do. I stayed in an apartment. While not on the main street and not close to any malls. Staying in an apartment is worth researching for those of you who are regular visitors.

The advantages: less costly than hotels, more privacy.

The disadvantages: maybe a bit further away from main streets, no daily room service (unless you request it) , no 24 hr restaurants.

This time I stayed at Surdirman park apartments, it's close to Shangri-La hotel. For me it was a bit better than staying in a hotel as I can move around without feeling guilty. Although there were security at the apartments the front desk 'walk of shame' I avoided.

Next time I will try staying at the Thamrin residences behind Plaza Indonesia.

You can rent the apartments, daily or weekly, in some apartments not all of them. So some researching has to be done.

But if someone is looking for an alternative choice of accomodations I would recommend thinking about renting an apartment.

BTE, I paid 400, 000 (IDR) per night at the apartment, whereas Ambhara was 660, 000, Le Meridien 970, 000, Merlynn Park 535, 000.

And THe Akmani 635, 000 (all numbers from KAHA) , I have used KAHA extensively in the past so I know the MO.

Just a thought for those who want a bit more privacy. In the past I was reluctant to bring back 2 or more girls to the hotel (yes I know many of you have done it before). But staying at the apartment it was much easier to do.Good info as I have just checked them out and the Thamrin apartments are 500k a night.

[KL Guy]

Thanks for the update! Perhaps if budget is an issue than this motel / inn is a suitable choice for OTR? ;)


I stayed there last December and it is more like a kost. There are 3 floors and the rooms vary in price the higher the floor. It is walking distance to setiabudi one and ambassador mall. It is a good place and clean. Everytime I brought a girl back her I'd was recorded by security. You literally need to walk 10 feet to buy strret food or anything you would get from a warung. Interent and satalite tv are provided as well. The staff did give me a sideways glance everytime I walked in with a girl though. The owner I believe resided in Hk and was never on site. I did not get the impression they were that girl friendly . Especially if a working girl . One other thing . It is located kind of on a back street so taxi drivers can give you the run around and for the first couple days , easy to get lost in all those side streets . Try 68 or 61 karet pedurenan . On a busier street and 2 min walk to ambassador mall where you can easily get a taxi or anything else for that matter .

[KL Guy]

Care to share the promo/normal rate because I may need a kitchen if I intend on visiting Jakarta soon because of my special diet requirements!


Having said that, I'm enjoying the introductory rate at Citadines on Wahid Hasyim; crappy breakfast but decent room with cooking facilities. I could have cooked better scrambled eggs in the room. But all said and done, it's good value for money. And a good base to bring freebies where no one will see you.

MD II

[Master Diver II]

Care to share the promo/normal rate because I may need a kitchen if I intend on visiting Jakarta soon because of my special diet requirements!First time I went, the promo rate was USD65+ (USD71 nett) second time it was USD82nett. Last couple of trips, I couldn't even get a room; pity, as I have a girl who'd like to swim in their little pool there with me. It's quite a nice setting (for a pool in the middle of a busy area) and not many people go to the pool level. Hmmm. Take note that the pans in the room are Aluminium and NOT non-stick. The cooker is running on electricity and not gas. Otherwise everything is still pretty new. BTW, I believe they've changed it to Morrisey now. Good luck getting a room. They seem to get pretty full for some reason. Last two trips I was in Aryaduta Suites Semanggi and Akmani.

MD II

[Ronin500]

To Ronin 500,

I have check out their room before very small spark hotel is much better just book the room on the higher floor, hotel travel room is around 400 k or try the Olympic hotel at 340 k room is better there too but book lower floor here because the KTV is on the 4 floor.

Fast Eddie 48Thanks mate. Going to book Sparks. Will report later.

Ronin500

[Member #4152]

After doing a lot of research, I'm still lost in my trip planning for Indonesia! This is a last minute trip because Bangkok appears to be washed out with all the flooding. So I'm considering mongering on the North side? Perhaps Kota? I've heard good things about Block M as well. Any suggestions on what area I should do my hunting in and what hotels to stay in? I like clean, girl friendly, internet and a good close location to the action with a lot of other things to do on the down time. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Chims!

[Kilrathi]

Hi guys,

My friends and I, have been visiting Thailand all these while, and since this time its flooding there, we decided to move to jakarta. Anyone here can share with us some guide on where to stay, what to do, which place to go pickup LT, what time can pickup and how much it'll cost for it?

Thanks in advance.

[Karet]

Hi guys,

My friends and I, have been visiting Thailand all these while, and since this time its flooding there, we decided to move to jakarta. Anyone here can share with us some guide on where to stay, what to do, which place to go pickup LT, what time can pickup and how much it'll cost for it?

Thanks in advance.Maybe you can easily find out this info but.

Hotels in Jakarta are more expensive than ones in Bangkot, in general.

If you want to pickup LT, Blok M area (Southern jakarta) is better than Kota (northern Jakarta)

You can find out hotels when you arrive in Sukarno-Hatta airport. Just go to Hotel information 'Kaha' or 'Indotel' The price is good in general.

There are many hotels in Blok M area.

Hotel Melawei

Golden Boutique Hotel

Hotel Ambara

Hotel Mahakam (and many budget hotel)

For LT, just go to jalan Falatehan after 10 pm. There are many bars but <topgun is most popular with many girls.

Well. 600 thousand rupiah is average for LT. Of course, the girls ask more, one million at first. You need to negotiate.

Hotel bell boy might ask you if you want massage but it is ST.

Hope you enjoy Jakarta trip!

[Jaimito Cartero]

Thanks mate. Going to book Sparks. Will report later.

Ronin500I dislike Sparks because they are always trying to scam you for damage to the sheets. Also found minibar items that were half empty.

I prefer the Arwana which is nearby. Didn't like Olympic much, or Prinsen.

[John Aldrich]

Hi folks,

While I live in Indonesia, I have been away for the past 4 months and am getting back to Indonesia this month. While I was in indonesia, I always booked hotel rooms at mulia through rajakamar. Com and at Le Meridien through my starwood points. I found a Chinese Indonesian girl who desires to pick me up in the airport and desires to stay only in mulla and not anywhere. I desire to book the room before I land and I figured out that the various websites are costlier by 30 to 125% off the mulla website prices. And am aware that rajakamar is cheaper by 40% of the mulla website price. Don't want to take any chances on missing out on this girl, who I have been wooing for quite sometime. Cannot ask my company to book the room, since I live in Jakarta and can't take the girl home for obvious reasons. Would you advise that I book the room when I land at the airport or any suggestions to get a good rate.

Any suggestions.

Cheers

[Tratnguyen1]

I dislike Sparks because they are always trying to scam you for damage to the sheets. Also found minibar items that were half empty.

I prefer the Arwana which is nearby. Didn't like Olympic much, or Prinsen.Gents,

I try to figure which hotel is better for my first timer in Jakarta this year 2012. In the past, I went to Bangkok many times to do the mongering and very much know the scene there. One thing is hotel plenty in Bangkok and booking very simple. Jakarta is a total different from Bangkok. I try the Classic hotel and they want the deposit up front for a 4million rp. If I stay 7days. They Don't even take Credit card, only pay VIA. Their bank may be by money transfer bank to bank. I think that is too much hassle just to make a reservation in Classic hotel. Now, I think about Malioboro hotel as an alternate place to stay. They do not have e-mail address on line. So, I need to call and check the room. Did any body have experience about Malioboro? Does hotel reservation by tel. Quite simple and they take credit card charge?

Is malioboro girl friendly? I like the Malo club and seems very fun with a lot of hot girls there.

I appreciate very much in advance for your input.

[JayCar2014]

No reports on this hotel. Maybe its too far from central and north Jakarta, but after research closeness to activities is very important? Any response would be much appreciated.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Gents,

I try to figure which hotel is better for my first timer in Jakarta this year 2012. In the past, I went to Bangkok many times to do the mongering and very much know the scene there. One thing is hotel plenty in Bangkok and booking very simple. Jakarta is a total different from Bangkok. I try the Classic hotel and they want the deposit up front for a 4million rp. If I stay 7days. They Don't even take Credit card, only pay VIA. Their bank may be by money transfer bank to bank. I think that is too much hassle just to make a reservation in Classic hotel. Now, I think about Malioboro hotel as an alternate place to stay. They do not have e-mail address on line. So, I need to call and check the room. Did any body have experience about Malioboro? Does hotel reservation by tel. Quite simple and they take credit card charge?

Is malioboro girl friendly? I like the Malo club and seems very fun with a lot of hot girls there.

I appreciate very much in advance for your input.To Trat,

I don, t classic hotel is a good location if this is your first trip, I recommended you stay at Losakari plaza area like the spark hotel there are many bar and massage place and hotel travel is in that area, there are nothing around classic hotel other than the sauna inside the hotel you can just take a taxi from Losakari only 10 min to Malioboro and stadium.

Fast Eddie 48

[Tratnguyen1]

To Trat,

I don, t classic hotel is a good location if this is your first trip, I recommended you stay at Losakari plaza area like the spark hotel there are many bar and massage place and hotel travel is in that area, there are nothing around classic hotel other than the sauna inside the hotel you can just take a taxi from Losakari only 10 min to Malioboro and stadium.

Fast Eddie 48Hello, Fast Eddie,

Okay I go for hotel around Losakari area. However, I notice the Spark hotel have many bad reports here like to make tough on the customers things like linen, very small for extra charges. I think the Mercure Resko hotel may fit better and also very close to entertainment zone. Yes, I try Jakarta the first time here. Bangkok is quite simple for me, but, Jakarta scene can provide a different dimension regarding bars, massage parlors, club girls. Thank you for your advise. Is Mercure Resko GF?

[Master Diver II]

No reports on this hotel. Maybe its too far from central and north Jakarta, but after research closeness to activities is very important? Any response would be much appreciated.There were a couple of reports in the Jakarta forum about activities not too far from The Pullman so you might want to check that out. Otherwise, traffic can be very forbidding to go to other areas if you hit the rush hour here. You will have to plan ahead and sort out your timing.

Hello, Fast Eddie,

Okay I go for hotel around Losakari area. However, I notice the Spark hotel have many bad reports here like to make tough on the customers things like linen, very small for extra charges. I think the Mercure Resko hotel may fit better and also very close to entertainment zone. Yes, I try Jakarta the first time here. Bangkok is quite simple for me, but, Jakarta scene can provide a different dimension regarding bars, massage parlors, club girls. Thank you for your advise. Is Mercure Resko GF?
Almost all hotels in Jakarta are girl friendly. You don't have to register the girls or pay extra for them to stay over, as you might have to do in many hotels in Bangkok. Just take them straight up to your room. The exceptions to the rule are the Syariah hotels; these are hotels that are very strict and will only allow couples to stay together if they can show a marriage certificate. There are, by far, in the minority so you should generally be ok; if I'm not mistaken Sofyan and Cipta hotels fall under this category so you would be advised to avoid any similarly named hotel. I have no problems staying more centrally and deciding which direction I go and hunt. But I do notice that those who are here purely for the ceweks like to locate themselves either North or South. It's all down to your budget and preferences. If I was staying up north, I'd prefer to be in a nicer hotel like the Swiss Belhotel which is still convenient enough rather than Sparks (although some would say that Sparks is more convenient) or Mercure Rekso. So it's really down to what you want.

Hi folks,

While I live in Indonesia, I have been away for the past 4 months and am getting back to Indonesia this month. While I was in indonesia, I always booked hotel rooms at mulia through rajakamar. Com and at Le Meridien through my starwood points. I found a Chinese Indonesian girl who desires to pick me up in the airport and desires to stay only in mulla and not anywhere. I desire to book the room before I land and I figured out that the various websites are costlier by 30 to 125% off the mulla website prices. And am aware that rajakamar is cheaper by 40% of the mulla website price. Don't want to take any chances on missing out on this girl, who I have been wooing for quite sometime. Cannot ask my company to book the room, since I live in Jakarta and can't take the girl home for obvious reasons. Would you advise that I book the room when I land at the airport or any suggestions to get a good rate.

Any suggestions.

Cheers
I was also checking on Rajakamar and Agoda; it was interesting to note that on a few hotels like Swissbelhotel, there was no difference for booking double rooms. But for some reason Mulia Senayan was much cheaper on Rajakamar. It should be noted that Agoda does have a price guarantee and you can get them to match or better any rate that you can book online. I stopped using Indotel and Kaha as it wasted time in the airport when I just wanted to get out quickly, and if there's some event going on, it can take you a while to get a room (I've been stuck at the Indotel desk for 45 minutes before). The alternative is to book prior to arrival and to just pay and collect your voucher at the desk. More hassle-free. Whichever route you take, do shop around and check prices before you book as the differences can be staggering if you're booking on the wrong website.

Good luck John Aldrich, but I would generally shy away from any woman who had such specific (and expensive) hotel requests. If she told me she had to stay away from certain areas because someone might see her, I'd be more accommodating. You have got a decent rate from Rajakamar so I'd either book through them or do the Agoda thing I mentioned above if I were you. The only way I can think of to get a cheaper room is if you know someone with a corporate rate. Or better still someone with a corporate rate from the travel industry or oil and gas industry. A friend once got me a rate for Mulia a few years ago of Rps550, 000 a night with breakfast, three pieces of laundry daily and a 20% discount at all F&B outlets in the hotel. Unfortunately, he is no longer in Jakarta. You might want to check what rates Indotel and Kaha offer for locals as well. There can be a different rate depending on the hotel.

MD II

[Traveler1234]

Can some of the more senior members help out with this. It's been a while since I've been back and I haven't noticed any recent updates on the happenings at the transit hotel? I recall being able to arrange for in-house massage and FS activities.

I'm flying in next week for literally 28 hours. Get in at lunch time, have a long biz meeting, check into Shangrila. Will try to arrange for room service that night. My flight next day isn't until 4 pm so my plan is send home whoever is sharing my bed after breakfast, check out and head over to airport earlier for some fun before I take off. My questions:

1. Assume can just walk up to transit hotel to check in for a few hours without first reserving, right?

2. What's the short time price, if any?

3. Does hotel arrange for massage and then I negotiate separately or does anyone have any numbers to share?

Thanks,

T1234

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hello, Fast Eddie,

Okay I go for hotel around Losakari area. However, I notice the Spark hotel have many bad reports here like to make tough on the customers things like linen, very small for extra charges. I think the Mercure Resko hotel may fit better and also very close to entertainment zone. Yes, I try Jakarta the first time here. Bangkok is quite simple for me, but, Jakarta scene can provide a different dimension regarding bars, massage parlors, club girls. Thank you for your advise. Is Mercure Resko GF?To Trat,

Most hotel in Jarkata are GF Spark is a good hotel service and location is good, if to tell you if you did a damadge or dirty a towel most hotel in asia will made you paid for it same for Mecure, yes Bangkok is better for mongering everything is out in the open for first timer will be a little difficult, mecure is good hotel just that they keep raising the price is too expensive now.

Fast Eddie 48

[Member #4698]

Based on recommendations from some board members, I just booked the Le Meridien Jakarta for 6 nights ($112 / night). The important considerations for me were good overall location, high quality to price ratio, and GF. The fact that there is a girly bar in the hotel did not hurt my decision either. Reading up on the Le Meridien, I discovered there is a difference in quality of certain rooms based on location. I made sure to book in the renovated tower section.

[Tratnguyen1]

To Trat,

Most hotel in Jarkata are GF Spark is a good hotel service and location is good, if to tell you if you did a damadge or dirty a towel most hotel in asia will made you paid for it same for Mecure, yes Bangkok is better for mongering everything is out in the open for first timer will be a little difficult, mecure is good hotel just that they keep raising the price is too expensive now.

Fast Eddie 48Gents,

I thank you Fast Eddie for your input and advice hotels around here. It is nice to know a lot of Jakarta is G. F. Jakarta is more difficulty than Bangkok mongering scene.

However, after doing sometimes RTFF and look at the Jakarta maps, I have gain quite a bit what does look the Jakarta scenes. Hotels like Travel, Classic, and Malioboro and alexis are all good to me for massages and bars. And there is blok M with some actions

[Mighty Spearsman]

Can some of the more senior members help out with this. It's been a while since I've been back and I haven't noticed any recent updates on the happenings at the transit hotel? I recall being able to arrange for in-house massage and FS activities.

I'm flying in next week for literally 28 hours. Get in at lunch time, have a long biz meeting, check into Shangrila. Will try to arrange for room service that night. My flight next day isn't until 4 pm so my plan is send home whoever is sharing my bed after breakfast, check out and head over to airport earlier for some fun before I take off. My questions:

1. Assume can just walk up to transit hotel to check in for a few hours without first reserving, right?

2. What's the short time price, if any?

3. Does hotel arrange for massage and then I negotiate separately or does anyone have any numbers to share?

Thanks,

T1234Jakarta Airport Hotel is located at Terminal #2 (near the meeting point at Terminal 2-E).

Tel: +62-21-559-0008 for a reservation.

Website: www.jakartaairporthotel.com

1) Yes, anyone can just walk up to the hotel to check in for a few hours, without first reserving.

2) According to their website, the rate for a superior room is US $85 for up to 6 hours, $130 ovenight with breakfast. My guess is that the short-term rate may be negotiable at the front desk, $85 is a lot of money for 6 hours at a so-so hotel.

According to agoda dot com, the overnight rate for a superior room, with breakfast included, is US $96. Couldn't find anything on Agoda about the short-term rates.

3) Don't know about massage, I suspect you would call the front desk and they'll arrange to send someone up to your room. Your best bet is to read the posts that esteemed senior member Bulai69 wrote about this place, especially in 2007 and 2008.

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I used Google to find out the above info. One of the sponsored results at the top caught my eye, from booking dot com, claiming good prices at 40 hotels near the airport. I knew right away that that could not be correct, as there's only one hotel at the airport and only a couple nearby (including the Sheraton Bandara).

So I clicked on the link and sure enough, they listed hotels that were at least an hour's drive away from the airport, more than an hour during rush hour. Hopefully no one will get fooled by this website into thinking they're less than 5 minutes away from their terminal!

[King Squared]

I found these budget hotels on Agoda that look good. Anyone ever stay at the Magnolia Hotel or Amaris Hotel Mangga Besar?

[Hung Man 1808]

I found these budget hotels on Agoda that look good. Anyone ever stay at the Magnolia Hotel or Amaris Hotel Mangga Besar?I very recently walked past the Amaris. Which was a suprise as there sure wasn't any sign of a development there a year ago! Very new. Hence it stands out along Mangga Besar. Rates seem very good. About 20 USD less than the (still recommended) Mecure Kota around the corner. Rooms look good. Similar style but bigger than the Ibis ones down in Sarinah.

Note that the Amaris is on the wrong Mangga Besar side for heading south (requiring a U turn for the taxi if catching it at the hotel. Not a trivial maneuver). OK for heading to the airport though. The best alternative otherwise is to walk around to the front of the Mercure and get a Bluebird. Never failed to get a taxi there in less than five minutes ever. They have a "base" there.

Five minutes walk in any direction from the Amaris could keep you exhaustively busy with girls within ten minutes of leaving the hotel.

[Hung Man 1808]

I've recently gathered (with the help of some guiding females and first hand experience) some updates on short time hotels that I think is quite handy, depending on your location and budget:

Hollywood hotel. Mangga Besar area.

Fairly new hotel, basic rooms. Short time (6 hours) is 100k (50k bond on top of that). No windows, basic shower / toilet, TV, two towels and water bottles. 24 hr room service available with far larger menu than Mercure Kota (handy, the girls get hungry!). Located on the same road / goat track as Stadium. To most easily find it the first time, walk past the entrance of Stadium and keep going around a S bend (where the road becomes solid bitumen) and it will be about 100 metres down on the left.

Hillside hotel. South Jakarta, Cilandak.

This has been briefly mentioned before a few years back, but I'll fill in the detail. This place is on Jalan Raden Ajeng Kartini in Cilandak, South Jakarta (No. 9 Jl RA Kartini to be precise). That road runs parallel to the toll way on the south side, heading West. If you looked to the north you would be approximately in line with Pondok Indah Mall.

Good luck getting there in a taxi with that instruction.

The further instructions needed are:

1. Go to Sakura restaurant (same address). This is out the front, you stand a chance of the taxi driver finding this.

2. Turn to the left of Sakura when entering and go to drive around the side of the building. This is the entrance to Hillside. There you will find an attendant (similar to a McDonalds drive through cashier!) who will get you a room and take the payment.

The executive rooms are 400k for six hours. You then drive down to the allocated room, and the driveway attendants will guide you into the garage and pull the roller door down for you. Privacy plus!

The executive room have LCD TVs, nice bed, Jacuzzi, shower in the bathroom area, plenty of space, and mirrors to the side and behind the bed. Which turn out to be ideally placed! The next room up has a DVD player as well, with the top room being larger again with big spa etc. This alternative is much nicer rooms and a better alternative than paying full room rate at Melawai (560k) or Losari (400k) which were the only alternatives I found in South Jakarta (and they refused to give a transit rate). Hillside is geared to transit only, with rooms and a privacy setup specifically for that activity. The minus is the place is around 5km / 1/2 hr south from Blok M at night (along Jl Fatmawati) if you are picking up in that area.

At Hillside, depending on which room you get, you can watch tv or dvds, or hit the jacuzzi, in between time with your girl (or in between girls even). The most stress is finding the place (the first time). Recommended.

There is also another hotel opposite the Apotek in Lokasari on Mangga Besar called New Mangga Besar Hotel (it isn't that new).275k for a room per day (no transit rate). Room is decent enough. Also worth a mention for those transit times.

Hope this helps when you are in need of a room for a short time. I'm sure Dorman can point out a few more after his adventures a year ago!

[Member #4410]

I've recently gathered (with the help of some guiding females and first hand experience) some updates on short time hotels that I think is quite handy, depending on your location and budget:

<SNIP

Hillside hotel. South Jakarta, Cilandak.

This has been briefly mentioned before a few years back, but I'll fill in the detail. This place is on Jalan Raden Ajeng Kartini in Cilandak, South Jakarta (No. 9 Jl RA Kartini to be precise). That road runs parallel to the toll way on the south side, heading West. If you looked to the north you would be approximately in line with Pondok Indah Mall.

<SNIP

Hillside is geared to transit only, with rooms and a privacy setup specifically for that activity. The minus is the place is around 5km / 1/2 hr south from Blok M at night (along Jl Fatmawati) if you are picking up in that area.

<SNIP

Hope this helps when you are in need of a room for a short time. I'm sure Dorman can point out a few more after his adventures a year ago!Just a warning. There is a huge construction project, the Blok M bypass, going on at Jalan Fatmawati and basically the road is closed during part of the day south of Jalan Kemang Raya. SOS Medika, which is located on Jalan Fatmawati has sent an email to all its registered clients warning them about access problems during the evening and night.

You just have to see this project to believe it. It involves building a second road ABOVE the existing road from just north of the Pasaraya shopping mall to a few kilometres south of Jalan Kemang Raya, all this while the daytime traffic continues.

Regards,

Ko

[Member #4410]

I very recently walked past the Amaris. Which was a suprise as there sure wasn't any sign of a development there a year ago! Very new. Hence it stands out along Mangga Besar. Rates seem very good. About 20 USD less than the (still recommended) Mecure Kota around the corner. Rooms look good. Similar style but bigger than the Ibis ones down in Sarinah.

Note that the Amaris is on the wrong Mangga Besar side for heading south (requiring a U turn for the taxi if catching it at the hotel. Not a trivial maneuver). OK for heading to the airport though. The best alternative otherwise is to walk around to the front of the Mercure and get a Bluebird. Never failed to get a taxi there in less than five minutes ever. They have a "base" there.

Five minutes walk in any direction from the Amaris could keep you exhaustively busy with girls within ten minutes of leaving the hotel.The U-turn is an essential part of Indonesian traffic. It works because of the unwritten Indonesian traffic law: "whoever is first has the right of way". In case of a collision Indonesian cops simply take a look at where each car is damaged; the one with the damaged front is guilty because the other guy was there first. So at every indicated U-turn location you see cars edging their way into the opposite lane whilst keeping a keen eye on what the opposition is doing. Works most of the time, but can be quite infuriating when you are in the opposing lane.

Regards,

Ko

[Cooze Hound]

Ko.

With all due respect you are about a kilometre out of whack. Jl Fatmawati is clear. It is Jl Prapanca and Jl Pangeran Antasari that have the overhead road project.

Such a road project is also being constructed in 2-3 other places in Jakarta, as a traffic solution.

Thanks

[Hung Man 1808]

Ko.

With all due respect you are about a kilometre out of whack. Jl Fatmawati is clear. It is Jl Prapanca and Jl Pangeran Antasari that have the overhead road project.

ThanksNot that Jl Fatmawati couldn't do with such a project, especially around ITC. The overpass project out the front of ITC Kunigan is causing a hell of a lot more traffic congestion than the Blok M / Kemang one. You have been warned.

[Hung Man 1808]

The U-turn is an essential part of Indonesian traffic. It works because of the unwritten Indonesian traffic law: "whoever is first has the right of way".

KoFor sure, but a you-turn just north of Mercure Kota (where there is basically a lane for it before the you-turn, as well as a designated you-turn construction) is a far different prospect than doing a you-turn on Jl Mangga Besar where the you-turn is done in a gap between the concrete lane divider, causing a blockage in the lane before and after the you-turn.

In those areas, it is usually better to cross the road (NOT a trivial thing either!) and get a taxi heading in the direction you want to go, or where they just have to turn left to do so.

Jl Mangga Besar is also highly infiltrated with scam / low quality taxis, with few Bluebirds or other decent taxis (Xpress is fairly decent these days for example) going past.

[Mighty Spearsman]

Ko.

With all due respect you are about a kilometre out of whack. Jl Fatmawati is clear. It is Jl Prapanca and Jl Pangeran Antasari that have the overhead road project.

Such a road project is also being constructed in 2-3 other places in Jakarta, as a traffic solution.

ThanksI received this e-mail and photo on January 6, 2012 from SOS:

"Dear Valued Customer,

The road works project along Jalan Antasari is well underway and the fly over phase immediately in front of SOS Medika Klinik, Cipete is expected to continue through January and February 2012.

During these months this particular section of Jl Antasari will be closed at night from 10pm to 5am however patients will continue to have full access to the clinic. Simply tell the security personnel that you are going to SOS Medika Klinik and you will be let through.

Our security team will continue to monitor the roads works project to ensure all our patients are able to reach the clinic safely and without delay. We will keep you updated on progress as new information comes to hand.

We apologize for any inconvenience caused and thank you as always for your support.

For appointments SOS Medika Klinik Cipete 021-750 5980 and SOS Medika Klinik Kuningan 021-5794 8600.

We wish you a happy and healthy 2012.

SOS Medika Klinik"

While the flyover is impressive, what Jakarta really needs is a subway system! Building more roads in the sky is not a long-term solution to the traffic problem in Jakarta.

[Golfinho]

No reports on this hotel. Maybe its too far from central and north Jakarta, but after research closeness to activities is very important? Any response would be much appreciated.Stayed here the week before Christmas. The taxi ride to Blok M at 10 pm was brutal. An hour. Not so bad coming back at 1 am, even so you can't want to have your date in a car that long. Getting north in early evening through traffic was also really, really slow. Only good thing about Pullman location is Central Park area is self-contained for everything else, and insulated from the city. Note that hotel was full of families and noisy kids on weekends, real fun ride in the elevator with them and your dates. As mentioned before, there is activity nearby though quality I thought not the greatest.

[Member #4410]

I received this e-mail and photo on January 6, 2012 from SOS:

"Dear Valued Customer,

<SNIP

While the flyover is impressive, what Jakarta really needs is a subway system! Building more roads in the sky is not a long-term solution to the traffic problem in Jakarta.My bad. I switch the names of these roads more often than I like.

Nevertheless, with the correct name inserted, heed the warning.

And now for something completely different: a subway. This has been tried before, as well as a monorail system.

Pillars for part of the monorail system can be seen near Plaza Senayan. Suddenly the money ran out because there were some very deep pockets involved in the project.

The soil in Jakarta might not lend itself to the construction of a subway. There have been studies into such a system, but they have not led to anything, apart from the aforementioned deep pockets.

Jakarta is settling at a rate of several cm's per year as a result of continuous water extraction from the subsoil by almost every inhabitant. Perhaps that is a major reason for not starting such a system.

The construction of the Iskandarsiyah. Antasari overpass is progressing at a phenomenal rate so there is less time for money to dissapear. The only problem is that it is going from nowhere to nowhere.

Regards,

Ko

[Golfinho]

And now for something completely different: a subway. This has been tried before, as well as a monorail system.

Jakarta is settling at a rate of several cm's per year as a result of continuous water extraction from the subsoil by almost every inhabitant. Perhaps that is a major reason for not starting such a system.Settling at several centimeters a year? If that's even remotely happening, it can't be everyhere. How could more new, bigger buildings keep going up, and why aren't the older ones falling down? Anyhow, using some of those old canals for the route would make it easier getting the right of way for a mass transit system. With the credit rating upgrade (s) will be interesting to see if incoming capital is committed to infrastructure

[Member #4410]

Settling at several centimeters a year? If that's even remotely happening, it can't be everyhere. How could more new, bigger buildings keep going up, and why aren't the older ones falling down? Anyhow, using some of those old canals for the route would make it easier getting the right of way for a mass transit system. With the credit rating upgrade (s) will be interesting to see if incoming capital is committed to infrastructureAlthough it's off-topic, one more post on the subject.

The settlement is fairly evenly distributed over the area so older, less deeply founded buildings just settle along. The only problem here is that water drainage, historically to the north, becomes more and more problematic over the years. Newer buildings, more to the south, are founded on deep piles and do not settle, or settle much less, but the surrounding area does. The only problem there is that every year you have to make a slightly bigger step to enter the building.

Regards,

Ko

[Popper1]

While in Kota made listing of hotels there and did quick writeup. Following is my opinion of my hotels, prices, and contacts of those places in Mangga Besar. I must say that it shocking how many hotels still do not have either a home page or e-mail address. If they had either, it was listed. One of those braindead morons behind the desk of hotel told me that their "head engineer" was now working on getting them an e-mail address. I told the braindead of this magical places called Yahoo, and that I would be happy to spend about 20 seconds to get them e-mail within this magical place, at no cost. He had absolutely no clue what I was talking about.

OK, without further ado:



Hotel Travel: 021. 6012721

Cost: 385, 000. Looked nicer than most hotels. Large lobby. WiFi only in restaurant.

Famous place for brothel. Recommend that you choose your own girl rather than allow mama-san to chose one for you. I personally sampled there twice and great time. Restaurant has the most screwed up menu ever seen.

That there is no e-mail or website is a disgrace.


Hotel Arwana: 021. 6009925.

Cost: 350, 000 and 450, 000. WiFi. Looks nice. arwanahotel@cbn.net.id


Hotel Surya:

Cost: 150, 000, 170, 000. Lobby extremely basic. No cards. No one spoke any English.



Note: All hotels listed below are on street Jl Mangga Besar, and am walking towards the highway.


Hotel Astrika: 021. 625. 6688

Cost: 247, 000. 441, 000 WiFi in lobby. Nice lobby. Has OK restaurant in lobby.


New Mangga Besar Hotel: 021. 639. 1515.

Cost: 290, 000, 310, 000 Very small rooms. Lobby too basic. I do not recommend this place.


Sumi Hotel: 021. 62305414-15.

Cost: 290, 000. 350, 000 Nice place. Nice lobby and rooms.

www.sumihotel.com


Hotel Peninsula: 021. 6260368.

Cost: 330, 000, 400, 000, 561, 000. Wifi only in lobby. When I was staying here last time, it was way cheaper. They redid the lobby and huge increase in price. It is crazy those idiots have no e-mail.


Sparks Hotel: 21-625-2534.

Cost: 600, 000, 800, 000. Lobby noisy. WiFi. Why oh why would anyone stay here when there any many acceptable places for half to a third the price?

www.sparks-hotel.com



Hotel Hermoni. (on side street)

Cost: 120, 000, 150, 000. Very basic. Like a backpackers place. No one spoke any English, so no clue about anything at all in this place.


Prinsen Park: 021. 6289101.

Cost: 225, 000."No hot, but only warm water." 4th floor check in, in Losarai Mall. Price reasonable. Worth looking into. No e-mail, WTF !

All good and be well.



--Popper

[Member #4410]

While in Kota made listing of hotels there and did quick writeup. Following is my opinion of my hotels, prices, and contacts of those places in Mangga Besar. I must say that it shocking how many hotels still Do not have either a home page or e-mail address. If they had either, it was listed. One of those braindead morons behind the desk of hotel told me that their "head engineer" was now working on getting them an e-mail address. I told the braindead of this magical places called Yahoo, and that I would be happy to spend about 20 seconds to get them e-mail within this magical place, at no cost. He had absolutely no clue what I was talking about.

OK, without further ado:

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You must be very popular in the are, being so generous with qualifications like "braindead". By the way: Yahoo is on the way out; soon nobody will be using that anymore.

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Hotel Hermoni. (on side street)

Cost: 120, 000, 150, 000. Very basic. Like a backpackers place. No one spoke any English, so no clue about anything at all in this place.

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-PopperDid you ever try learning just a little bit of Bahasa Indonesia? Makes life SOO much easier when in Indonesia.

You will find that people suddenly are much more friendly towards you too. Try it, you won't believe how much difference it makes.

Regards,

Ko

[Golfinho]

While in Kota made listing of hotels is my opinion of my hotels, prices, and contacts of those places in Mangga Besar. I must say that it shocking how many hotels still Do not have either a home page or e-mail address.

Hotel Travel: 021. 6012721

Cost: 385, 000. Looked nicer than most hotels. Large lobby. WiFi only in restaurant.

Famous place for brothel. That there is no e-mail or website is a disgrace.No reason to pop out an address for Hotel Travel then? As the connoisseur of low budget hostelry, do you really think e-mail is preferable to actually taking a first-hand look at these dives? With 4-star hotels in this city so inexpensive and so guest friendly, I always look forward to staying at someplace nice and new when I'm in town. Going to give the Pullman another try next week.

[Onkelspitzz]

I will spend 2 weeks in Jakarta in July.

Any recommendation for a 4 star hotel with nice swimmingpool, girlfriendly and near to action?

For example like Hotel Orchid Inn in Angeles?

Thanks in advance!

Spitz

[Member #4410]

I will spend 2 weeks in Jakarta in July.

Any recommendation for a 4 star hotel with nice swimmingpool, girlfriendly and near to action?

For example like Hotel Orchid Inn in Angeles?

Thanks in advance!

SpitzYou are a white man (known to Indonesians as a Bule) with little Indonesian experience?

I like the Atlet Century, near Plaza Senayan. An alternative would be the hotel Ibis Slipi.

Both hotels are not too far from Blok M, a mongering location for westerners.

99 % of hotels in Jakarta are Girlfriendly.

Regards.

Ko

[Non Olet]

Did you ever try learning just a little bit of Bahasa Indonesia? Makes life SOO much easier when in Indonesia.

You will find that people suddenly are much more friendly towards you too. Try it, you won't believe how much difference it makes.

Regards,

KoEspecially if you can say casually:"tidak bica bicarra bahassa Indonesia" (I don't speak Indonesian) when all ladies around you are gossiping about you! It does make a difference.

NO

[Mighty Spearsman]

My bad. I switch the names of these roads more often than I like.

Nevertheless, with the correct name inserted, heed the warning.

And now for something completely different: a subway. This has been tried before, as well as a monorail system.

Pillars for part of the monorail system can be seen near Plaza Senayan. Suddenly the money ran out because there were some very deep pockets involved in the project.

The soil in Jakarta might not lend itself to the construction of a subway. There have been studies into such a system, but they have not led to anything, apart from the aforementioned deep pockets.

Jakarta is settling at a rate of several cm's per year as a result of continuous water extraction from the subsoil by almost every inhabitant. Perhaps that is a major reason for not starting such a system.

The construction of the Iskandarsiyah. Antasari overpass is progressing at a phenomenal rate so there is less time for money to dissapear. The only problem is that it is going from nowhere to nowhere.

Regards,

Ko1) One can see some of the pillars for the monorail on Jl. Rasuna Said as well.

What a waste! Evidently the monorail developer began construction before he received full approval from the Indonesian government. Evidently he expected to bribe his way into getting the permission, but he ended up not getting approval from the government.

2) Yes, there are some soil issues, but if Bangkok, Thailand can have an underground subway, then the technology is there to enable Jakarta to have a subway. In 2008, there was a draft design for the subway, turns out most of it would have been above ground (from Senayan outwards) , but it still would have helped to move people in and out of Jakarta more quickly than now.

3) Back in 2007 I was at a seminar where one of the presenters showed a satellite infrared image of the drop in the ground water throughout Jakarta. While a lot of water extraction had taken place throughout downtown, the one spot where the most groundwater had been extracted (thus reducing the water table) was the area around the Bintang brewery! Evidently Bintang was pumping water from underground instead of using the city water supply. Supposedly the elevation of downtown Jakarta has dropped at least half a meter in recent year from a combination of heavy buildings and extraction of groundwater.

4) The easiest way to see evidence of the drop in the ground water level is to go to Sarinah Plaza in central Jakarta (which was built on piles back in the 1960s). You almost need a stepladder to step up from the parking lot onto the first step! The upper floors of the Sarinah building were closed for several months in 2006-07 so that the building could be reinforced. Also, in 2008 there was an article in the news about cracks in the small shack housing the ATMs on the north side of Sarinah, since that housing is not built on the same foundation as the rest of the building.

5) After the notorious flood of February 2007, when 2/3rds of Jakarta was underwater (in some places by as much as 3 meters) , a group of water experts from the University of Delft, Holland, prepared a computer simulation that demonstrated that, if the canal system built by the Dutch before World War II had been regularly dredged and properly maintained, that there would have been no flooding in Jakarta lasting more than a couple of hours.

[Member #4410]

Although it's off-topic, one more post on the subject.

The settlement is fairly evenly distributed over the area so older, less deeply founded buildings just settle along. The only problem here is that water drainage, historically to the north, becomes more and more problematic over the years. Newer buildings, more to the south, are founded on deep piles and do not settle, or settle much less, but the surrounding area does. The only problem there is that every year you have to make a slightly bigger step to enter the building.

Regards,

KoAnd now the very last on the subject: today I received a report (what a coincidence) written by the "Jakarta Coastal Defence Strategy" team.

I can't attach the report since it is a hefty 79 MB, but if you Google "JCDS Atlas" you will probably find it. It is a public document, so you will have no trouble downloading it. On pages 25 - 27 are a number of interesting maps of the DKI Jakarta and the sink rate in the different areas. Actually the report is about the whole Jabodetabekpunjur area, but since Jakarta has the highest flooding risk most attention is focused there.

Regards,

Ko

[Mighty Spearsman]

While in Kota made listing of hotels there and did quick writeup. Following is my opinion of my hotels, prices, and contacts of those places in Mangga Besar. I must say that it shocking how many hotels still Do not have either a home page or e-mail address. If they had either, it was listed. One of those braindead morons behind the desk of hotel told me that their "head engineer" was now working on getting them an e-mail address. I told the braindead of this magical places called Yahoo, and that I would be happy to spend about 20 seconds to get them e-mail within this magical place, at no cost. He had absolutely no clue what I was talking about.

OK, without further ado:

All good and be well.

-PopperMy guess is that the operators of these hotels simply don't see any need for an e-mail address or web site. They have plenty of customers as it is, most of whom are walk-ins without any advance reservations.

And if they did have an e-mail, then they'd have to monitor it regularly, and translate any e-mails that aren't in Bahasa Indonesian, which would mean 90+% of the e-mails, so they probably figure "why bother?"

[Member #4410]

i received this e-mail and photo on january 6, 2012 from sos:

"dear valued customer,

the road works project along jalan antasari is well underway and the fly over phase immediately in front of sos medika klinik, cipete is expected to continue through january and february 2012.

during these months this particular section of jl antasari will be closed at night from 10pm to 5am however patients will continue to have full access to the clinic. simply tell the security personnel that you are going to sos medika klinik and you will be let through.

our security team will continue to monitor the roads works project to ensure all our patients are able to reach the clinic safely and without delay. we will keep you updated on progress as new information comes to hand.

we apologize for any inconvenience caused and thank you as always for your support.

for appointments sos medika klinik cipete 021-750 5980 and sos medika klinik kuningan 021-5794 8600.

we wish you a happy and healthy 2012.

sos medika klinik"

while the flyover is impressive, what jakarta really needs is a subway system! building more roads in the sky is not a long-term solution to the traffic problem in jakarta.this evening there was an item on dutch television on living in jakarta and part of the footage showed a long stretch of double elevated roadway. this is the part of the blok m bypass above the antasari and it would appear that it is indeed approaching the lokation of sos medika. speed of construction remains impressive.

regards,

ko

[Mighty Spearsman]

this evening there was an item on dutch television on living in jakarta and part of the footage showed a long stretch of double elevated roadway. this is the part of the blok m bypass above the antasari and it would appear that it is indeed approaching the location of sos medika. speed of construction remains impressive.

regards,

kothanks for the info. besides the speed of construction, let's hope the "safety of construction" also remains impressive!

[Member #4410]

thanks for the info. besides the speed of construction, let's hope the "safety of construction" also remains impressive!fingers crossed.

[Plasmids]

Hi,

I will be in Jakarta next month for the first time and will be staying at the Intercontinental. Could anyone let me know if the bar has WGs that can be picked up? Does the hotel have inroom massage service and if its just massage or plus plus and FS available? How far are the 'fun' areas from the hotel?

I went back through the thread and not much at all on the Intercontinental.

Thanks.

P

[Master Diver II]

Hi,

I will be in Jakarta next month for the first time and will be staying at the Intercontinental. Could anyone let me know if the bar has WGs that can be picked up? Does the hotel have inroom massage service and if its just massage or plus plus and FS available? How far are the 'fun' areas from the hotel?

I went back through the thread and not much at all on the Intercontinental.

Thanks.

PI have no direct information wrt the services they offer in the hotel. But if you ask for a younger woman to massage you, chances are that there will be extras on offer. The only thing is that since you're in a five star hotel, they will price their "tips" accordingly. The Intercontinental is well located to travel whichever direction you choose to look for fun, and fun is not that far away. But still traffic dependent. No bar to pick up from the hotel as far as I know. Good luck and have fun.

MD II

[Menteng]

I have no direct information wrt the services they offer in the hotel. But if you ask for a younger woman to massage you, chances are that there will be extras on offer. The only thing is that since you're in a five star hotel, they will price their "tips" accordingly. The Intercontinental is well located to travel whichever direction you choose to look for fun, and fun is not that far away. But still traffic dependent. No bar to pick up from the hotel as far as I know. Good luck and have fun.

MD IIJaimito Cartero frequents the Intercontinental. Maybe a PM to him would help.

[Tratnguyen1]

While in Kota made listing of hotels there and did quick writeup. Following is my opinion of my hotels, prices, and contacts of those places in Mangga Besar. I must say that it shocking how many hotels still Do not have either a home page or e-mail address. If they had either, it was listed. One of those braindead morons behind the desk of hotel told me that their "head engineer" was now working on getting them an e-mail address. I told the braindead of this magical places called Yahoo, and that I would be happy to spend about 20 seconds to get them e-mail within this magical place, at no cost. He had absolutely no clue what I was talking about.

OK, without further ado:

Hotel Travel: 021. 6012721

Cost: 385, 000. Looked nicer than most hotels. Large lobby. WiFi only in restaurant.

Famous place for brothel. Recommend that you choose your own girl rather than allow mama-san to chose one for you. I personally sampled there twice and great time. Restaurant has the most screwed up menu ever seen.

That there is no e-mail or website is a disgrace.

Hotel Arwana: 021. 6009925.

Cost: 350, 000 and 450, 000. WiFi. Looks nice. arwanahotel@cbn.net.id

Hotel Surya:

Cost: 150, 000, 170, 000. Lobby extremely basic. No cards. No one spoke any English.

Note: All hotels listed below are on street Jl Mangga Besar, and am walking towards the highway.

Hotel Astrika: 021. 625. 6688

Cost: 247, 000. 441, 000 WiFi in lobby. Nice lobby. Has OK restaurant in lobby.

New Mangga Besar Hotel: 021. 639. 1515.

Cost: 290, 000, 310, 000 Very small rooms. Lobby too basic. I do not recommend this place.

Sumi Hotel: 021. 62305414-15.

Cost: 290, 000. 350, 000 Nice place. Nice lobby and rooms.

www.sumihotel.com

Hotel Peninsula: 021. 6260368.

Cost: 330, 000, 400, 000, 561, 000. Wifi only in lobby. When I was staying here last time, it was way cheaper. They redid the lobby and huge increase in price. It is crazy those idiots have no e-mail.

Sparks Hotel: 21-625-2534.

Cost: 600, 000, 800, 000. Lobby noisy. WiFi. Why oh why would anyone stay here when there any many acceptable places for half to a third the price?

www.sparks-hotel.com

Hotel Hermoni. (on side street)

Cost: 120, 000, 150, 000. Very basic. Like a backpackers place. No one spoke any English, so no clue about anything at all in this place.

Prinsen Park: 021. 6289101.

Cost: 225, 000."No hot, but only warm water." 4th floor check in, in Losarai Mall. Price reasonable. Worth looking into. No e-mail, WTF!

All good and be well.

-PopperGents,

I will visit Jakarta in May. 2012, my first time ever in Jakarta. I already had reservation for a room at Amaris Mangga Besar. Generally, is this a good hotel to stay? The cost of room is included breakfast, I wonder how close and conviennce of this hotel to mongering scenes like Classic terminal, Malioboro club?

[Plasmids]

Jaimito Cartero frequents the Intercontinental. Maybe a PM to him would help.Master Driver and Menteng, Many thanks for your replies.

Once I've visited Intercontinental I'll leave feed back for other members that may wish to stay there.

Current plan is to try the in-room massage service and report back.

Take Care.

P

[Hung Man 1808]

Gents,

I will visit Jakarta in May. 2012, my first time ever in Jakarta. I already had reservation for a room at Amaris Mangga Besar. Generally, is this a good hotel to stay? The cost of room is included breakfast, I wonder how close and conviennce of this hotel to mongering scenes like Classic terminal, Malioboro club?Close as you will generally find a hotel to those venues.

Much closer to Stadium, Berlian, Kartika etc (5 mins walking).

10-15 mins in taxi to the other venues.

Long way to the 5 star hotel / Senayan clubs, longer again to Blok M. Up to 1 hour in a taxi for those places before maybe 11pm.

[Tratnguyen1]

Close as you will generally find a hotel to those venues.

Much closer to Stadium, Berlian, Kartika etc (5 mins walking).

10-15 mins in taxi to the other venues.

Long way to the 5 star hotel / Senayan clubs, longer again to Blok M. Up to 1 hour in a taxi for those places before maybe 11pm.Gents,

I thank you Hung Man very much for the Info. I have been traveled to Bangkok many times in the past. However, Jakarta is definitely provides an exiciting mongering version regarding club activities and massages parlors. I am a fan of Thai's massages and the go go bars in there. So, the Amaris maybe a good home base for me to go Classic Terminal, hotel Travel and Kartika. I will give my first hand reports to the new scene of Jakarta and somewhat comparision between Bangkok vs Jakarta when I have the opportunity.

[Hammer83]

Hi MDII,

After reading your comments, I think you are so fimiliar with jakarta night life and, of course, girls.

I am expart form Singapore, for job reason, I need to stay in jakarta for long time from time to time. I like palces as malio. Suncity, aleix, travel and so forth. From this forum I find someone has went to some other Hi end, private club, and get other kind of service from some spg, Chinese-indo girl, or model. I am keen to try these places. I agree that it is the best choice to get some rib and come back home to cook not try it in restaurant with much higher price, but where is the super market to find such material like rib.

So any comments? Many thanks

[Master Diver II]

Hi MDII,

After reading your comments, I think you are so fimiliar with jakarta night life and, of course, girls.

I am expart form Singapore, for job reason, I need to stay in jakarta for long time from time to time. I like palces as malio. Suncity, aleix, travel and so forth. From this forum I find someone has went to some other Hi end, private club, and get other kind of service from some spg, Chinese-indo girl, or model. I am keen to try these places. I agree that it is the best choice to get some rib and come back home to cook not try it in restaurant with much higher price, but where is the super market to find such material like rib.

So any comments? Many thanksIf you want to buy meat to cook, I would look in any Supermarket in an upmarket mall. Like Plaza Indonesia, Pacific Place, Senayan City, Plaza Senayan or the Ranch Markets in Oakwood and Grand Indo etc. All carry a decent range and should be able to cater to your needs. If you frequent places like Alexis and Sun City, I guess budget is not your issue... Where do you intend to stay when you go there?

MD II

[Fast Eddie 48]

While in Kota made listing of hotels there and did quick writeup. Following is my opinion of my hotels, prices, and contacts of those places in Mangga Besar. I must say that it shocking how many hotels still Do not have either a home page or e-mail address. If they had either, it was listed. One of those braindead morons behind the desk of hotel told me that their "head engineer" was now working on getting them an e-mail address. I told the braindead of this magical places called Yahoo, and that I would be happy to...To Popper.

I stay at the Olympic hotel my last 2 trip to Jarkata this is a business hotel behind Lopasari plaza, they don't have a web site mostly local and Indo business man stay here nice 3 star hotel with night club on the 5 FL standard rate start at about 350, 000 but I always can get room there no problem easy walk to Hotel Travel and 15 min walk to Stadium and Katrika, I like the Spark hotel much better but it cost twice as much.

Fast Eddie 48

[Zenlove]

Hi Fellow Mongers,

I have plans to visit Jakarta week after next for 3 nights. I have digested a lot of information from the reports and this is what I have planned. Since the stay is short and one needs to make best use of time, I want to stay at The Classic or at the Hotel Travel. Both seems to be full of excitement and this would be a one stop shop as I understand. Kindly give me your thoughts. How do I book a room at The Travel Hotel? They have no web page that allows me to do it online from the US; Classic has a webpage and I sent them a booking request 3 days ago and have not heard back till date. Can someone help me with a trustworthy local travel agent who might do this booking for me. All suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks

[John Aldrich]

Hi Fellow Mongers,

I have plans to visit Jakarta week after next for 3 nights. I have digested a lot of information from the reports and this is what I have planned. Since the stay is short and one needs to make best use of time, I want to stay at The Classic or at the Hotel Travel. Both seems to be full of excitement and this would be a one stop shop as I understand. Kindly give me your thoughts. How do I book a room at The Travel Hotel? They have no web page that allows me to do it online from the US; Classic has a webpage and I sent them a booking request 3 days ago and have not heard back till date. Can someone help me with a trustworthy local travel agent who might do this booking for me. All suggestions are appreciated.

ThanksClassic normally does not respond. The best way is to call them up and tell them about the mail. They will then confirm the booking. The other alternative is that you land in the airport and just pick up a discount voucher for either of the hotels from KAHA or Indotel hotel discount voucher counters. Or just take a cab and land there with your luggage and you will get the room. They are not normally full and have enough rooms to provide for you.

Cheers

[Zenlove]

Thanks John for the quick response. Has anyone stayed at the Classic hotel before? Please provide some insights. Is it in a good location for food, shopping, availability of taxis etc.

I did try to call them but phone lines were busy due to the earthquake for quite a while. Finally spoke with the reservation gal, who with broken English said to call back tomorrow or wait another day for the hotel to revert back by email. She said this weekend the hotel was sold out as it is tourist season now and up until mid May. Kind of hard to believe after reading your post.

Hotel Travel reception was not helpful at all. My call just was put on hold every time. Seems to me they were looking for someone who could speak English and found none. An US travel agent in LA mentioned that Classic Hotel had asked for a bank transfer from another client to get the confirmed room which I feel is a bad idea.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hi Fellow Mongers,

I have plans to visit Jakarta week after next for 3 nights. I have digested a lot of information from the reports and this is what I have planned. Since the stay is short and one needs to make best use of time, I want to stay at The Classic or at the Hotel Travel. Both seems to be full of excitement and this would be a one stop shop as I understand. Kindly give me your thoughts. How do I book a room at The Travel Hotel? They have no web page that allows me to do it online from the US; Classic has a webpage and I sent them a booking request 3 days ago and have not heard back till date. Can someone help me with a trustworthy local travel agent who might do this booking for me. All suggestions are appreciated.

ThanksTo Zenlove,

Classic hotel will not respond email this hotel mainly cater to Local indo businessman you can caontact them by phone to make booking, this hotel is in middle of nowhere not a good location you can book a hotel at Mangar Begsar area like Spark near Hotel travel there are many hotel in this area also near Lopasari Plaza only 10 min taxi to Classic hotel, if you don't know the area just book your first night at the Spark or Olympic hotel and check out the hotel travel for rest of your trip.

Fast Eddie 48

[Frenchtchnopwd]

Hi all,

Have changed habits from Alila. Raise of corporate rate in 2012. To Morrissey, a nice place between hotel (good spacious rooms, ok service, free wifi, free breakfast acceptable in terms of choice and quality with an egg station) and serviced appartments (no mini bar, kitchen in room, no room service.).

A good option for a multi day stay, no problems as in all hôtels in Jakarta to bring women, ok location in menteng.

Nice restaurant in the building, Ocha Bella, italian food not bad at all and nice cockail list. Independent from hotel though.

Get it for 70€+ in agoda, will try to nego corporate rate.

[Zenlove]

After finally speaking with the reservation guy, they emailed me a confirmed reservation with a hold till 5pm the day of arrival. Seems they are very busy. If anyone has stayed at this hotel, kindly share the experience.

Thanks

[Master Diver II]

Hi all,

Have changed habits from Alila. Raise of corporate rate in 2012. To Morrissey, a nice place between hotel (good spacious rooms, ok service, free wifi, free breakfast acceptable in terms of choice and quality with an egg station) and serviced appartments (no mini bar, kitchen in room, no room service.).

A good option for a multi day stay, no problems as in all hôtels in Jakarta to bring women, ok location in menteng.

Nice restaurant in the building, Ocha Bella, italian food not bad at all and nice cockail list. Independent from hotel though.

Get it for 70€+ in agoda, will try to nego corporate rate.Yes, I like this place too. I have stayed here four of my last eight trips. The others being twice each at Aryaduta Semanggi and Akmani. I like the serviced apartment concept with breakfast and convenient places to eat nearby. I tend to stay three nights and appreciate being able to store large bottles of water, coke zero or juice in the fridge provided. It's fun between "rounds" to cook a steak together in the nude (a nice fat tenderloin cooked rare with sauteed onions and enoki mushrooms with garlic). The only thing is Morrissey uses a quick heat electric stove compared to Aryaduta's gas. But that may be nit-picking. The shower has enough space for two (no bath tub though) which has also contributed to the fun. Buy enough supplies in the supermarket and a few DVDs in ITC Kuningan, and you could quite happily stay in the room with your favourite cewek for a couple of days. Take a room on the 6th floor and the pool is very convenient to get to.

MD II

[Wiild]

Just booked Favehotel Wahid Hasyim: 500, 000 / night. Seems pretty new, nice and close enough to BATS, CJs, Classic, Malioboro: my four current focus points for action!

[Master Diver II]

Just booked Favehotel Wahid Hasyim: 500, 000 / night. Seems pretty new, nice and close enough to BATS, CJs, Classic, Malioboro: my four current focus points for action!The Location is fine. I am concerned with the room size bro. Let us know more when you go.

MD II

[Pelosky]

Hi, does anyone have any feedback on the Kempinski Indonesia Hotel? Looks nice, but is it GF? Am trying to decide whether I should return to the Shangri-La which I know well (very convenient, but getting a bit stale and need a taxi to go anywhere) or try the Kempinski, which is newer, possibly nicer, better location even though no action on the spot.

Any information would be much welcome. There doesn't seem to be anything reported about this hotel!

Thanks in advance,

Pelosky

[Golfinho]

Hi all,

Morrissey, a nice place between hotel (good spacious rooms, ok service, free wifi, free breakfast acceptable in terms of choice and quality with an egg station) and serviced appartments (no mini bar, kitchen in room, no room service.).

Get it for 70€+ in agoda, will try to nego corporate rate.Staying at Morrissey last weekend it was 86 USD agoda. It's a hotel, maybe was serviced aptos in previous incarnation, in name only now. Not much difference between the two studio units. Go for bigger one and on higher floor, but still will be street noise, and gym is 2 treadmills and some dumbells only. Do NOT get the one-bedroom: it is on two levels, with BR small. So many hotel options in this immediate vicinity, wouldn't go out of my way for the Morrissey, it's ok enough though on brief stay. Not really the place if you're looking to impress your dates. Passable Italian meal for only thirty bucks sans vino, a rariety in Asia.

[John Aldrich]

Hi, does anyone have any feedback on the Kempinski Indonesia Hotel? Looks nice, but is it GF? Am trying to decide whether I should return to the Shangri-La which I know well (very convenient, but getting a bit stale and need a taxi to go anywhere) or try the Kempinski, which is newer, possibly nicer, better location even though no action on the spot.

Any information would be much welcome. There doesn't seem to be anything reported about this hotel!

Thanks in advance,

PeloskyThe Kempinski is very much Girl friendly. In case you love mall hunting, PI and GI is closeby. It's also a convenient location to tread anywhere, whether Blok M or to Gajah Madah, Classic etc.

Have fun.

Cheers,

[Master Diver II]

Staying at Morrissey last weekend it was 86 USD agoda. It's a hotel, maybe was serviced aptos in previous incarnation, in name only now. Not much difference between the two studio units. Go for bigger one and on higher floor, but still will be street noise, and gym is 2 treadmills and some dumbells only. Do NOT get the one-bedroom: it is on two levels, with BR small. So many hotel options in this immediate vicinity, wouldn't go out of my way for the Morrissey, it's ok enough though on brief stay. Not really the place if you're looking to impress your dates. Passable Italian meal for only thirty bucks sans vino, a rariety in Asia.It's still a serviced apartment. It has a fully functioning kitchenette with a cooker hob, microwave oven, toaster, kettle, pots and pan together with crockery and cutlery. There is a common access washing machine available for use. Yes the gym is limited, but I would find the 1 bedroom full of opportunities. Anyone for fun on the staircase? The Studio executive is noticeably larger but I'd be fine in the standard studio room. I have brought dates back, and they enjoyed the facilities including the DVD player plus a reasonable range of TV channels. As you say, the bistro downstairs does provide decent enough food so you can have your date downstairs before proceeding upstairs. The only downside is the mosques nearby can be a bit loud. Avoid the street noise by getting a room facing the hotel car park. IMHO none of the nearby hotels compare, although Akmani is not too bad. Avoid Cipta hotel as it's a Syariah hotel, which wouldn't be very conducive for our hobby. Akmani does have the plus of having in house "massage" facilities though. On the other hand, the fewer of you who stay here, the easier and cheaper I can get my room, so please do not book a room here.

MD II

[Hafni]

Anyone wanted a comfortable hotel room in Mangga Besar area should consider this hotel.

Came to Jakarta for a 3 night fuck trip early April and wanted to stay at Hotel Travel but it was full. Tried my luck here, just right beside Hotel Travel and vacancy was aplenty. Took the Deluxe Room (IDR450k) and paid cash. Requested a higher floor away from noise and was given one on level 3. Comfy sized room, air conditioned, clean sheets and shower room and tiled floors. Most importantly, not noisy at all. Only caveat, breakfast was shitty but food stalls were easily accessible.

Also, walking distance to Stadium, the usual spas, Lokasari and legit Bluebirds can be found easily. Highly recommended!

[Danibbler]

Thanks for the report! I looked in at this hotel last year and it seemed adequate. Great location with it being right next door to Hotel Travel.


Anyone wanted a comfortable hotel room in Mangga Besar area should consider this hotel.

Came to Jakarta for a 3 night fuck trip early April and wanted to stay at Hotel Travel but it was full. Tried my luck here, just right beside Hotel Travel and vacancy was aplenty. Took the Deluxe Room (IDR450k) and paid cash. Requested a higher floor away from noise and was given one on level 3. Comfy sized room, air conditioned, clean sheets and shower room and tiled floors. Most importantly, not noisy at all. Only caveat, breakfast was shitty but food stalls were easily accessible.

Also, walking distance to Stadium, the usual spas, Lokasari and legit Bluebirds can be found easily. Highly recommended!

[Canyon]

In general, are the hotels in Jakarta guest-friendly? How about the Shangri-La?

[Hung Man 1808]

In general, are the hotels in Jakarta guest-friendly? How about the Shangri-La?You actually need someone to answer this for you?

[Member #4351]

In general, are the hotels in Jakarta guest-friendly? How about the Shangri-La?

Just to be a nice guy: Yes, you can take them hot out of the Bat's oven, directly to your room.

[El Greco]

Hotel 88 on Mangga Besar Raya 120 opposite the big hospital and 5 min walk to Hotel Travel.

Also very close, one train station away or about 15K taxi ride, to the other similar to hotel Travel, The Classic Hotel. They had a promo of two ladies for about 400K.

Train station nearby and 5-6K taxi ride to Hayam Wuruk bus station. Kartika, Berlian, Starbucks, Pizza Hut and budget malls near that intersection. The name of that famous night spot next to Starbucks can't remember right now.

About 350K for their deluxe room. Basic business type hotel but clean . Internet working fine. No fridge though.

About one year old.

http://hotel88.co.id/1/

[Golfinho]

What was the internet situation at this Hotel?

Recently, like a week ago, in front of either Hotel Travel or maybe it was in front of Hotel next door, there was a big sign advertizing something called Resort Hotel at the Airport. Sign said this place had karaoke, massage, everything. Made it sound like another hotel Travel at the airport. Anyone stayed there, or know anything first-hand about it?

[Golfinho]

I would find the 1 bedroom full of opportunities. Anyone for fun on the staircase?You didn't see the 1 bedroom evidently, staircase is a disaster. A few drinks, and you'll be taking your last master dive trying to get to the bathroom. In general, and no offense. What is it with people here and the compulsion to weigh in on things they have no idea what they're talking about? Anyhow, anywhere in this hotel you need a high tolerance for street noise and the Mosque will wake you up without fail at 4:00 a. M.

Otherwise, Wayhid Hasim is about as pedestrian friendly area of town there is, with things and services, and some pub bars. For anyone who likes to change their hotels as much as they like to change their girls, many viable places to stay on this street. Thanks for noting the syriah place.

[Mighty Spearsman]

In general, are the hotels in Jakarta guest-friendly? How about the Shangri-La?Actually, you raise a good q

[Mighty Spearsman]

In general, are the hotels in Jakarta guest-friendly? How about the Shangri-La?Keep in mind that most of what is written here is fiction / fantasy.

The truth is that Indonesia is the world's largest Muslim country, and none of the hotels here are girl-friendly. Shangri-La is particularly unfriendly to that scene; the one bar here, named BATS (the initials stand for "Bar At The Shangri-La") , has a "No females allowed" sign posted at the entrance, and the waitresses all wear the "hijab" headdress that totally covers their head, hiding all of their hair.

Hope this post helps. Bottom line. You're better off travelling to Pattaya to monger.

[Primo Bolan]

In general, are the hotels in Jakarta guest-friendly? How about the Shangri-La?I would rather say you can stay at your own risk but they are not really friendly at all, but in Pattaya you can stay and be a friendly guest.

[Master Diver II]

Keep in mind that most of what is written here is fiction / fantasy.

The truth is that Indonesia is the world's largest Muslim country, and none of the hotels here are girl-friendly. Shangri-La is particularly unfriendly to that scene; the one bar here, named BATS (the initials stand for "Bar At The Shangri-La") , has a "No females allowed" sign posted at the entrance, and the waitresses all wear the "hijab" headdress that totally covers their head, hiding all of their hair.

Hope this post helps. Bottom line. You're better off travelling to Pattaya to monger.Hahahahahahahaha absolutely agree with you there. He is indeed better off looking elsewhere.


You didn't see the 1 bedroom evidently, staircase is a disaster. A few drinks, and you'll be taking your last master dive trying to get to the bathroom. In general, and no offense. What is it with people here and the compulsion to weigh in on things they have no idea what they're talking about? Anyhow, anywhere in this hotel you need a high tolerance for street noise and the Mosque will wake you up without fail at 4:00 am.

Otherwise, Wayhid Hasim is about as pedestrian friendly area of town there is, with things and services, and some pub bars. For anyone who likes to change their hotels as much as they like to change their girls, many viable places to stay on this street. Thanks for noting the syriah place.My apologies Golfinho, I am familiar with the hotel. If not the 1 bedroom suite. The noise doesn't bother me and I don't really drink much. But point duly noted.

MD II

[Tratnguyen1]

Gents,

I visited Jakarta in May 10-17 and stayed at Amaris Mangga besa during the newbee trip to this city. This hotel is at the very conveniennce location and actually a family orientations hotel. That was fine to me as I did not want to bring back any girl to my room and freelance hunting never a my cup of tea. The hotel is close to the major intersection with Olimo transjakarta in front of Mercure hotel. Overall, I was very satisfied with the hotel staff and services. The breakfast buffet was just outstanding with plenty of good foods and fruits and of course tea and coffee and juice from 7am til 10am. Free for all guest. The hotel will catch a blue bird taxis for me if I need to go the Classic hotel for only 30, 000rp (minimum charge). The only downside is the room lack of refridg to keep milk and other cool foods. However, with the cost to pay and the great location, the Amaris Mangga besa is hard to beat.

[Versalio]

Planning a visit to Indonesia this coming weekend. Heard a lot about Hotel Travel and I intend to make it my first stop.

As far as I know the rates are about rp 370,000 an hour. Has that been changed?

What is the rate for a whole night with full service?

[Mighty Spearsman]

Planning a visit to Indonesia this coming weekend. Heard a lot about Hotel Travel and I intend to make it my first stop.

As far as I know the rates are about rp 370, 000 an hour. Has that been changed?

What is the rate for a whole night with full service?Ah, yet again, another total newbie asking questions.

Hey, Versalio, read the forum!

And even if Travel suddenly changes their price, it won't increase by much. So pack 500, 000 rupiah in your wallet and just go with the flow, enjoy your visit, then post a kick-ass report here of what happened during your visit.

And you said that you're "planning a visit." From where? And, assuming you're coming from a country other than the US, why haven't you posted any interesting reports of your past escapades before now?

[Fast Eddie 48]

Planning a visit to Indonesia this coming weekend. Heard a lot about Hotel Travel and I intend to make it my first stop.

As far as I know the rates are about rp 370, 000 an hour. Has that been changed?

What is the rate for a whole night with full service?To versalio.

Hotel travel price has gone up end of last yr from 350k even at 370k is still the best deal in town only about 42 USD, most girl will not go out with customer for all night I did ask a girl last time I was there she want something like 1. 5 mil the club get most of that.

Fast Eddie 48

[FrenchTouch]

Hi All,

I contribute when I find time and think it worth it.

I am looking for an option of hotel or serviced appartments with a nice pool in the range from 650 000 to 750 000 per night for three nights in a relatively central area.

The reference for me is definitely Morrissey, except the pool in Morrisse sucks, cause there are no sunbathing options.

Thanks in advance

FT

[FriendlyPlanet]

To versalio.

Hotel travel price has gone up end of last yr from 350k even at 370k is still the best deal in town only about 42 USD, most girl will not go out with customer for all night I did ask a girl last time I was there she want something like 1. 5 mil the club get most of that.

Fast Eddie 48Hi Fast Eddie,

I was at Hotel Travel last week, and still paid 300k (plus 50k to the girl tip). Thought it was strange this time that I paid to the mama san at the point of purchase, but no additional charges when I went upstairs or when I checked out, so all good.

If you want overnight, go out to the road behind Hotel travel, take a right then there is a place within 30 meters that you can get take out girls overnight for 800k.

Friendly

[Master Diver II]

Hi All,

I contribute when I find time and think it worth it.

I am looking for an option of hotel or serviced appartments with a nice pool in the range from 650 000 to 750 000 per night for three nights in a relatively central area.

The reference for me is definitely Morrissey, except the pool in Morrisse sucks, cause there are no sunbathing options.

Thanks in advance

FTHi FT,

I'm not sure you need to explain yourself in the first line as anyone can check by looking at your profile.

You'll be hard pushed to get decent serviced apartments at that price. Batavia (to my mind) is quite unpleasant, Aryaduta Semanggi and Somerset are too expensive (let's not even look at Ascott, Fraser, Oakwood etc) and some others are too far out. You can check Belleza Suites by Maven (?) or sometimes maybe Kuningan suites or Aston Rasuna available on Agoda at cheap rates at times. It's in Permata Hijau behind Mulia Senayan and close to Somerset Berlian. Perhaps at that budget, you should stick to hotels where you do have quite a choice: Aryaduta (the hotel) has some offers now, Harris at FX (prices vary) Akmani (but the pool isn't great) and maybe Manhattan. Does anyone know what the pool is like at the nearby Ibis hotels?

MD II

[Norweez]

Can someone who actually stayed at hotel travel or hotel classic please report on the experience.

I've went through the forum and most posts are about staying close to these hotels. I've done a search but it doesn't turn up any proper results. I've only got a few days so I'd prefer to stay at the hotel.

How are the rooms? Service? Breakfast? Noise? Can girls be brought to your own room instead of the regular rooms? Is there a seperate entrance or exit for the actual hotel rooms?

Thanks in advaance.

[Traveler1234]

Hi all,

Have changed habits from Alila. Raise of corporate rate in 2012. To Morrissey, a nice place between hotel (good spacious rooms, ok service, free wifi, free breakfast acceptable in terms of choice and quality with an egg station) and serviced appartments (no mini bar, kitchen in room, no room service.).

Re Morrissey -
WTF, looked to book for July 12-15 and almost nothing available. Is there a pre-Ramadan orgy going on that weekend? :)

Re Alila Hotel in Kemang, couple of questions [pricey, almost as much as the Shangrila]:
1. what's the difference btw inner and edge suites [besides size].
2. Is one quieter?
3. Also, is the pool long enough for laps?

[Fast Eddie 48]

Can someone who actually stayed at hotel travel or hotel classic please report on the experience.

I've went through the forum and most posts are about staying close to these hotels. I've done a search but it doesn't turn up any proper results. I've only got a few days so I'd prefer to stay at the hotel.

How are the rooms? Service? Breakfast? Noise? Can girls be brought to your own room instead of the regular rooms? Is there a seperate entrance or exit for the actual hotel rooms?

Thanks in advaance.To Norweez.

There are many post about the hotel room on hotel travel and classic hotel you just too lazy to search, hotel travel sauna is next to hotel travel seperate entrance small 3 star hotel room are old air con don't work too well, there are many other hotel in the area at Manga Besar that are much better walking distance, hotel classic is a nice 3 star hotel only 10 min taxi away book full msot local stay there and you need to paid in full upfront by phone reservation, most of the girl will not leave the sauna but the sauna room are clean with nice bed.

Fast Eddie 48

[Bkk212]

Quick note on Avissa Suites, Jakarta (just south of Surdirman on Prof. Satrio) , the hotel is new and the rooms are clean. However check your sheets my first might here the sheets were stained and dirty and even the unde sheet was dirty. Such a bad experience for such a nice hotel. It's off the path a bit and it's' on a quiet side street. No pool but a small gym with unusable equipment, no restaurant but breakfast is included. Ok for a night or two.

[Master Diver II]

Re Morrissey.

WTF, looked to book for July 12-15 and almost nothing available. Is there a pre-Ramadan orgy going on that weekend? .

Re Alila Hotel in Kemang, couple of questions [pricey, almost as much as the Shangrila]:

1. What's the difference BTW inner and edge suites.

2. Is one quieter?

3. Also, is the pool long enough for laps?Please refer to their website: http://www.alilahotels.com/kemangicon And you'll probably find out most of what you want to know. It's supposed to be an upmarket boutique hotel so it will not be cheap. I wouldn't be surprised to find a few pre Ramadhan bookings as I'm intending to do the same myself. :p ;)

Quick note on Avissa Suites, Jakarta (just south of Surdirman on Prof. Satrio) , the hotel is new and the rooms are clean. However check your sheets my first might here the sheets were stained and dirty and even the unde sheet was dirty. Such a bad experience for such a nice hotel. It's off the path a bit and it's' on a quiet side street. No pool but a small gym with unusable equipment, no restaurant but breakfast is included. Ok for a night or two.
I was wondering about that place - near to the ITC and Ambasador Mal right?*
MD II

[Traveler1234]

Please refer to their website:

http://www.alilahotels.com/kemangicon

And you'll probably find out most of what you want to know. It's supposed to be an upmarket boutique hotel so it will not be cheap. I wouldn't be surprised to find a few pre Ramadhan bookings as I'm intending to do the same myself. .I did visit their website and was interested in anyone with personal experience.

On the more important question: is it normal that pre-R weekend, things book up? I usually don't shop hotels but notice many of the non-5 star chains are fully booked that weekend?