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Canada
05-14-21, 18:32
Thanks for the link proving you wrong.

It says "temporary" "restrictions" of "most" and "some".

No where does it say that Trump "blocked all the flights from China and banned Chinese from entering USA. I am sure that" or anything remotely like it.

Now post a link proving that Biden never called Trump a racist for his "temporary restriction of most flights out of China and requiring a quarantine of some passengers on those flights", please.Of course it was temporary. Trump can't ban Chinese for ever. Get real. [Deleted by Admin]

John Clayton
05-14-21, 18:35
Why do you constantly post stuff that is demonstrably false and can be disproven with a 10-second internet search? ...Answer:

1) he lives in a disinformation zone. Unfortunately, it's difficult to see how this will be rectified in the near future. Fox, OANN, et al have successfully monetized fear and disinformation. A good first step would be if the FCC would reinstitute the "Fairness Doctrine", which they did away with by simple majority vote in 1987. "Monetizing the amygdala" -- I wish I'd made that up.

2) he is subject to conspiracy theories. This is true for most humans. The ability to believe in conspiracies is strongly correlated with lack of education and lower intelligence. To be fair, we all want to assign agency to phenomena that we don't understand. In science, usually the simplest explanations of phenomena turn out to be true. William of Occam used this idea to counter what he considered the fuzzy logic of his theological contemporaries -- "Occam's Razor". Conspiracies around the 2020 Presidential results involve: ballots from China, fradulent voting machines, black people voting multiple times, complicit Republican election officials, Hugo Chavez, etc; whereas, the much simpler, evidence based explanation that six million more people voted for Biden is disregarded. The more incredible a conspiracy is the more complicated and convoluted the explanation has to be -- look at microchips in vaccines or belief in a flat earth. Why are some people more susceptible to conspiracies? My guess it that it is correlated with belief in religion. Once you have allocated a portion of your brain to believing that there is an invisible Ghost in the Sky that is giving you instructions, it means you can believe anything. This ability to believe unreasonable ideas makes these people particularly good marks for scams. I would like to ask the correspondent if he has bought Trump merchandise, "supplements" from Alex Jones, or has taken chlorine dioxide (MMS).

3) he is inherently an authoritarian. I mean there is an evolutionary reason why authoritarianism exists in primates (and other social animals). Surrending executive functions (run, hide, fight, eat here, sleep there) to the alpha frees up energy and resources of the rest of the pack for feeding and sex. In return, we give the alpha extra food, sex, grooming, fancy cars, etc. Having a rigid hierarchy, and knowing your place in it, is comforting to most animals. The real question is why this person (and 74 million other Americans) believe and follow this risible and truly pathetic person. Obviously, Trump successfully simulated ability for these people for five years; however, you'd think his weakness and decrepitutde would be clear to them by now. I guess it's not too surprising when you look how troupes of other primates look after the leader because they don't want their comforting position in the social structure to change. Even when the alpha is too weak to physically engage, he is defended by the betas (Kevin McCarthy, Lindsey Graham, Jim Jordan, etc) until is clear that he is incapable of self defense or retribution -- then they will fight for his position. The mystery is why Trump's followers haven't figured yet out that he is a weak, old, decrepit fraud -- a loser.

John Clayton
05-14-21, 18:37
...Are you really this stupid?Suggestion: strengthen your rhetoric by avoiding ad hominen arguments.

PVMonger
05-14-21, 18:40
Yes I see now that you admit Trump banned Chines from entering after the virus hit Washington. All flights from China to Seattle were stopped from China to slow the virus. And yes Trump allowed Chines with Americans to return to USA and made them quarantine much the same as Americans that were traveling in Asia on cruise ships. He did this to save lives even though he was being bashed by democrats CNN and NSNBC. The virus was in USA because it was brought in previously from China. Where it started. Every country in the world got the virus from China. Every Republican will admit that China had already brought the virus in when Trump did this.Again, why do you post stuff that is easily disproved? Many voluntarily self-quarantined as the following states. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/thousands-americans-voluntarily-self-quarantine-after-returning-china-n1138731.

In addition, none of them were trump supporters because they would have said "This is against my rights."

And you admit that Donnie shut the barn door after the horses escaped. Only a trump supporter would say that that move kept the horses in the barn.

PVMonger
05-14-21, 18:48
Liberal fact checking at its nest. Every news outlet in the USA had Trump banning Chinese nationals in January 2020 and one Liberal fact checker twists the words so socialists can say it never happened. You are a joke. It explains who you are.

Biden is in damage control now totally screwing up the USA and you are still blaming Trump for everything. Where is the hate for Biden for what he is doing to the American people. If Trump had done 10% of what Biden did they would be talking impeachment.

Why are you anti American. What country are you from?Why can't you admit that COVID can't read? Trump admitted plenty of people carrying the virus because Chinese nationals weren't the only carriers. But like a good trump supporter you just bloviate and tell lies. All of us with brains know this. We just laugh at what you say.

"Your candidate lost. Suck it up snowflake. Conservative tears sure do taste good. Screw your feelings."

Karma's a *****, isn't it.

PVMonger
05-14-21, 18:52
Answer:

1) he lives in a disinformation zone. Unfortunately, it's difficult to see how this will be rectified in the near future. Fox, OANN, et al have successfully monetized fear and disinformation. A good first step would be if the FCC would reinstitute the "Fairness Doctrine", which they did away with by simple majority vote in 1987. "Monetizing the amygdala" -- I wish I'd made that up.

2) he is subject to conspiracy theories. This is true for most humans. The ability to believe in conspiracies is strongly correlated with lack of education and lower intelligence. To be fair, we all want to assign agency to phenomena that we don't understand. In science, usually the simplest explanations of phenomena turn out to be true. William of Occam used this idea to counter what he considered the fuzzy logic of his theological contemporaries -- "Occam's Razor". Conspiracies around the 2020 Presidential results involve: ballots from China, fradulent voting machines, black people voting multiple times, complicit Republican election officials, Hugo Chavez, etc; whereas, the much simpler, evidence based explanation that six million more people voted for Biden is disregarded. The more incredible a conspiracy is the more complicated and convoluted the explanation has to be -- look at microchips in vaccines or belief in a flat earth. Why are some people more susceptible to conspiracies? My guess it that it is correlated with belief in religion. Once you have allocated a portion of your brain to believing that there is an invisible Ghost in the Sky that is giving you instructions, it means you can believe anything. This ability to believe unreasonable ideas makes these people particularly good marks for scams. I would like to ask the correspondent if he has bought Trump merchandise, "supplements" from Alex Jones, or has taken chlorine dioxide (MMS)..No mystery at all.

What is 60' long with 12 teeth? The front row at a trump rally.

Paulie97
05-14-21, 19:34
Once you have allocated a portion of your brain to believing that there is an invisible Ghost in the Sky that is giving you instructions, it means you can believe anything.This is a blustery caricature of religious belief, which likely stems from past bad experiences and bitterness. This is understandable as there are some bad folks promoting it. Though not especially religious myself, I don't consider everyone who is a fool. This universe is incredibly complex and with jaw dropping beauty, to say the least. It's not unreasonable to believe there's higher intelligence behind it, which typically involves some form of immanence, and beyond more primitive / anthropomorphic expressions. One can argue it unwise to toss out the baby with the bath water.


Even when the alpha is too weak to physically engage, he is defended by the betas (Kevin McCarthy, Lindsey Graham, Jim Jordan, etc) until is clear that he is incapable of self defense or retributionThis whole alpha / beta business is a false dichotomy or dilemma / black and white thinking error as there's loads of gray area in this matter.

https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/the_myth_of_the_alpha_male

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/False-Dilemma

That said the rest of your post, or what I remember of it was pretty good.

Canada
05-14-21, 19:34
Answer:

1) he lives in a disinformation zone. Unfortunately, it's difficult to see how this will be rectified in the near future. Fox, OANN, et al have successfully monetized fear and disinformation. A good first step would be if the FCC would reinstitute the "Fairness Doctrine", which they did away with by simple majority vote in 1987. "Monetizing the amygdala" -- I wish I'd made that up.

2) he is subject to conspiracy theories. This is true for most humans. The ability to believe in conspiracies is strongly correlated with lack of education and lower intelligence. To be fair, we all want to assign agency to phenomena that we don't understand. In science, usually the simplest explanations of phenomena turn out to be true. William of Occam used this idea to counter what he considered the fuzzy logic of his theological contemporaries -- "Occam's Razor". Conspiracies around the 2020 Presidential results involve: ballots from China, fradulent voting machines, black people voting multiple times, complicit Republican election officials, Hugo Chavez, etc; whereas, the much simpler, evidence based explanation that six million more people voted for Biden is disregarded. The more incredible a conspiracy is the more complicated and convoluted the explanation has to be -- look at microchips in vaccines or belief in a flat earth. Why are some people more susceptible to conspiracies? My guess it that it is correlated with belief in religion. Once you have allocated a portion of your brain to believing that there is an invisible Ghost in the Sky that is giving you instructions, it means you can believe anything. This ability to believe unreasonable ideas makes these people particularly good marks for scams. I would like to ask the correspondent if he has bought Trump merchandise, "supplements" from Alex Jones, or has taken chlorine dioxide (MMS)..What has this got to do with the incompetent Biden administration and the confusion he is in? When are you guys going to start realizing the trouble USA is in? These aren't Trump issues. Biden created all of them in 4 months. When are you going to own up to it?

Paulie97
05-14-21, 20:43
What has this got to do with the incompetent Biden administration and the confusion he is in? When are you guys going to start realizing the trouble USA is in? These aren't Trump issues. Biden created all of them in 4 months. When are you going to own up to it?The problem is that your points have been refuted one by one, over and over, and with facts and source citations. Your method and that of Trump and his other proteges is to ignore the rebuttals by changing the subject or repeating the same lies over and over again. It's very predictable, and frankly one has to be pretty bored to continue playing this game with you. You'll of course be the last man standing, will be here posting until if and when the site becomes defunct or hell freezes over. So anyone else seeking to get in the last word, forget it. Never underestimate a Trump fan's dedication. Lololol.

PVMonger
05-14-21, 21:14
What has this got to do with the incompetent Biden administration and the confusion he is in? When are you guys going to start realizing the trouble USA is in? These aren't Trump issues. Biden created all of them in 4 months. When are you going to own up to it?Donnie took 4 years to destroy the USA. Biden can't fix it in a few months, especially with Republicans blocking everything.

SouthEaster
05-14-21, 21:47
After reading this forum regularly I can come to 2 conclusions. The first is that there is really no point in continuing because the 2 sides are never going to agree on a single thing when neither will accept the other sides version of "proof". The second is that Canada must change his user name. Given that he is more "trumpian" than even most Americans he is an embarrassment to the great majority of us, that us being an ordinary, relatively well informed populace that could not stand Trump to start with, and surely have no love for him now. I will turn the forum over for suggested alternatives.

Beijing4987
05-14-21, 23:39
No signs of intelligent life here. Beam me up Scotty. Can't save then anyway, an asteroid is on its way. It's rare that I put an entire thread on Ignore. Why not rename it Stupid Shit, like a few others.

Canada
05-15-21, 00:22
Donnie took 4 years to destroy the USA. Biden can't fix it in a few months, especially with Republicans blocking everything.Name one thing Biden needs to fix. Trump had the border under control and Biden fixed it. Now we have a crises. Trump had economy booming and unemployment for blacks, Hispanics and women at an all time low before the China pandemic. If Biden did nothing Trump economy would return but unfortunately Biden is fixing it. Economy will go in the tank and inflation will skyrocket. When is Biden going to fix anything? Does anybody have a clue?

GDreams
05-15-21, 06:31
Name one thing Biden needs to fix. Trump had the border under control and Biden fixed it. Now we have a crises. Trump had economy booming and unemployment for blacks, Hispanics and women at an all time low before the China pandemic. If Biden did nothing Trump economy would return but unfortunately Biden is fixing it. Economy will go in the tank and inflation will skyrocket. When is Biden going to fix anything? Does anybody have a clue?The China trade fiasco that has seen the current account explode, the education system, the environmental blunders / pollution control, Iran, Nth Korea, relationships with allies, climate, democracy, the pandemic, general civility, bring back that telling the truth is expected, health care, rule of law, ethics. How long a list do you need.

Now I know you are going to whine about a whole lot of irrelevancies with no factual evidence or a bunch of made up facts that we will need to fact check you on or do your homework for you but why don't you take a break and just let the democrats once again fix all the problems for you. Like in California which since the 2009 recession has had the highest economic growth in the country. Why is that? Because they have education, good infrastructure, good medical care and a strong successful economy. Sort of debunks all your socialism tropes!

EihTooms
05-15-21, 06:48
Name one thing Biden needs to fix. Trump had the border under control and Biden fixed it. Now we have a crises. Trump had economy booming and unemployment for blacks, Hispanics and women at an all time low before the China pandemic. If Biden did nothing Trump economy would return but unfortunately Biden is fixing it. Economy will go in the tank and inflation will skyrocket. When is Biden going to fix anything? Does anybody have a clue?See attached a chart for the USA Unemployment Rate from 2008 to present from the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics. A breakdown by race and gender would look essentially the same.

As everyone can see, the dramatic rise in the unemployment rate that occurred under GW Bush was brought down under Obama-Biden beginning in 2009 after the positive effects of their American Recovery and Re-investment Act hit the streets (with zero votes and support from any Republican) in a downward trajectory so steady and certain it would have continued in that direction until it hit historic lows within months of Obama leaving office no matter how much golf Do Nothing Trump played after taking office.

Even Trump and his GQP's one and only significant economic legislation they finally managed to vomit out on the last business day of 2017, The Tax Cut and Jobs Act, which, at a cost of $2. 5 Trillion, produced fewer jobs in the 3 years pre Trump's Pandemic than Obama-Biden's legislation produced in their last 3 years without it along with no discernable improvement in GDP Growth, could not interrupt the downward trajectory for the unemployment rate set in motion by Obama, Biden and the Dems years earlier.

Trump had absolutely nothing to do with it. And neither did any other Republican.

In fact, among Trump's monumental failings as a so-called president, his economic stewardship was arguably the worst of them. After all, his 2018 decision to defund and cripple the Pandemic Prevention and Response system and teams specifically created and developed to prevent the kind of conditions the world has had to suffer for the past 15 month as well as his lying in sync with China's Xi about the reality of it were Trump ECONOMIC decisions. He boasted about the 2018 defunding and crippling because he "saved American taxpayers" some piddling $150 million or so. And his Pandemic producing lies in early 2020 were told so as not to upset Xi in the midst of the trade negotiations that "Make sure I win!" Trump botched anyway.

GDreams
05-15-21, 09:02
See attached a chart for the USA Unemployment Rate from 2008 to present from the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics. A breakdown by race and gender would look essentially the same.

As everyone can see, the dramatic rise in the unemployment rate that occurred under GW Bush was brought down under Obama-Biden beginning in 2009 after the positive effects of their American Recovery and Re-investment Act hit the streets (with zero votes and support from any Republican) in a downward trajectory so steady and certain it would have continued in that direction until it hit historic lows within months of Obama leaving office no matter how much golf Do Nothing Trump played after taking office.

Even Trump and his GQP's one and only significant economic legislation they finally managed to vomit out on the last business day of 2017, The Tax Cut and Jobs Act, which, at a cost of $2. 5 Trillion, produced fewer jobs in the 3 years pre Trump's Pandemic than Obama-Biden's legislation produced in their last 3 years without it along with no discernable improvement in GDP Growth, could not interrupt the downward trajectory for the unemployment rate set in motion by Obama, Biden and the Dems years earlier.

Trump had absolutely nothing to do with it. And neither did any other Republican..Its pretty much a waste of time presenting facts to Canada. He is firmly in the alternative fact universe of Trumpism that any lie Trump spoke is the new truth. If you dispute the new truth you will just be subject to rants about socialism, BLM and antifa. Canada will never provide facts because he has "faith" and that is all that matters to him.

PVMonger
05-15-21, 13:57
The problem is that your points have been refuted one by one, over and over, and with facts and source citations. Your method and that of Trump and his other proteges is to ignore the rebuttals by changing the subject or repeating the same lies over and over again. It's very predictable, and frankly one has to be pretty bored to continue playing this game with you. You'll of course be the last man standing, will be here posting until if and when the site becomes defunct or hell freezes over. So anyone else seeking to get in the last word, forget it. Never underestimate a Trump fan's dedication. Lololol.Agreed. I, too, am done.

Canada
05-15-21, 14:32
See attached a chart for the USA Unemployment Rate from 2008 to present from the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics. A breakdown by race and gender would look essentially the same.

As everyone can see, the dramatic rise in the unemployment rate that occurred under GW Bush was brought down under Obama-Biden beginning in 2009 after the positive effects of their American Recovery and Re-investment Act hit the streets (with zero votes and support from any Republican) in a downward trajectory so steady and certain it would have continued in that direction until it hit historic lows within months of Obama leaving office no matter how much golf Do Nothing Trump played after taking office.

Even Trump and his GQP's one and only significant economic legislation they finally managed to vomit out on the last business day of 2017, The Tax Cut and Jobs Act, which, at a cost of $2. 5 Trillion, produced fewer jobs in the 3 years pre Trump's Pandemic than Obama-Biden's legislation produced in their last 3 years without it along with no discernable improvement in GDP Growth, could not interrupt the downward trajectory for the unemployment rate set in motion by Obama, Biden and the Dems years earlier.

Trump had absolutely nothing to do with it. And neither did any other Republican.

In fact, among Trump's monumental failings as a so-called president, his economic stewardship was arguably the worst of them. After all, his 2018 decision to defund and cripple the Pandemic Prevention and Response system and teams specifically created and developed to prevent the kind of conditions the world has had to suffer for the past 15 month as well as his lying in sync with China's Xi about the reality of it were Trump ECONOMIC decisions. He boasted about the 2018 defunding and crippling because he "saved American taxpayers" some piddling $150 million or so. And his Pandemic producing lies in early 2020 were told so as not to upset Xi in the midst of the trade negotiations that "Make sure I win!" Trump botched anyway.This is so false that it is not even worth trying to explain. Just look at the economy in 2019 compared to Obama years and the employment numbers. That explains everything.

No one on this post can name one good thing Biden has done but finally I can. Texas democrats are forcing Biden to continue with building the wall that Trump started. It is only 13.8 miles in Texas but it is desperately needed. He won't admit there is a crises but at least he agreed to continue with the wall.

GDreams
05-15-21, 15:08
This is so false that it is not even worth trying to explain. Just look at the economy in 2019 compared to Obama years and the employment numbers. That explains everything.

No one on this post can name one good thing Biden has done but finally I can. Texas democrats are forcing Biden to continue with building the wall that Trump started. It is only 13.8 miles in Texas but it is desperately needed. He won't admit there is a crises but at least he agreed to continue with the wall.LOL, call evidence as false but cannot provide your own. Typical Canada. Its not that hard to find out that Trumps growth in GDP and jobs was the same rates as Obama achieved whilst Obama was reducing the deficit Trump the debt king was expanding it massively.

I previously noted a number of Biden initiatives that answered your question. Seems you have a very selective memory. We are not here to teach people who obviously don't have any learning capacity.

Mr Enternational
05-15-21, 19:37
Student loan borrowers perplexed by Biden administration's continued defense of Trump-era lawsuits.

"When Biden was elected, I was like 'Yes, here is someone who has heard about our fight, who heard about our struggles. He'll take care of this," said Kulka, 33, who owes $10,000 in federal student loans for a certificate in medical administration. "But we're still here. I want to be optimistic, but I've been waiting for so long. ".

Justice has reversed the government's position in several high-profile cases involving the Affordable Care Act, voting rights and sentencing since Biden took office. Federal attorneys have even dropped a Trump-era lawsuit accusing Yale University of discriminating against Asian and White applicants.

Yet when comes to cases involving federal student aid, consumer attorneys say the Biden administration is moving at a glacial pace.

"I'm shocked that more than 100 days in we're still in an active appeal on something that is so opposed to what the Biden administration claims it's about," said Toby Merrill, director of the Project on Predatory Student Lending, a group representing borrowers in multiple Trump-era cases, including the class-action lawsuit in which Kulka is involved.

She added: "We won the case so all they have to do is follow the law. It's incredibly frustrating to our clients who have been waiting for so long for someone to do the right thing. ".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/05/14/student-loan-debt-trump-biden/?outputType=amp.

Canada
05-15-21, 19:43
LOL, call evidence as false but cannot provide your own. Typical Canada. Its not that hard to find out that Trumps growth in GDP and jobs was the same rates as Obama achieved whilst Obama was reducing the deficit Trump the debt king was expanding it massively.

I previously noted a number of Biden initiatives that answered your question. Seems you have a very selective memory. We are not here to teach people who obviously don't have any learning capacity.Here it is.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/193290/unemployment-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/

Government statistics show USA e.

Unemployment hit all time low and more people were working in USA than ever before in 2018 and 2019. But whenever I prove it you just go to a liberal fact checker and dispute it.

MiamiSammy
05-15-21, 20:56
This is so false that it is not even worth trying to explain. Just look at the economy in 2019 compared to Obama years and the employment numbers. That explains everything.

No one on this post can name one good thing Biden has done but finally I can. Texas democrats are forcing Biden to continue with building the wall that Trump started. It is only 13.8 miles in Texas but it is desperately needed. He won't admit there is a crises but at least he agreed to continue with the wall.You seem to be under the illusion that Trump walked in and all of the sudden the economy went gangbusters. The DOW was at 6,000 when Obama took office and at 18,000 when he left. He did the hard work of cleaning up the mess Bush Light left in the wake of two unfunded, undeclared wars. Fortunately, the American people threw Trump out on his ass after four years, before he could do much irreversible damage- though he damn sure tried. Anyone who wants to go back through the ebbs and flows of the economy over the last century will see a pattern of progressives building the economy only for conservatives to come along, get us into a war, and destroy the economy, which leads the people to elect another progressive to fix it.

Canada
05-15-21, 21:32
You seem to be under the illusion that Trump walked in and all of the sudden the economy went gangbusters. The DOW was at 6,000 when Obama took office and at 18,000 when he left. He did the hard work of cleaning up the mess Bush Light left in the wake of two unfunded, undeclared wars. Fortunately, the American people threw Trump out on his ass after four years, before he could do much irreversible damage- though he damn sure tried. Anyone who wants to go back through the ebbs and flows of the economy over the last century will see a pattern of progressives building the economy only for conservatives to come along, get us into a war, and destroy the economy, which leads the people to elect another progressive to fix it.To get the economy going and to get Americans back to work to get unemployment to record numbers Trump had to reverse a lot of Obama regulations Trump tried to reduce size of government and give more back to the people but was only partially successful. Now with Biden president he will reverse a lot of the successes of Trump and the American people and increase government and regulations which will cause companies to charge more and inflation to skyrocket. In 4 months we are well on the way with inflation at 4%. Groceries, gas, electric and lumber are the first signs of record inflation which hurts the lower income.

Families the most. Don't need to fact check this just go to the pump or grocery store and decide for yourself.

John Clayton
05-15-21, 22:37
...inflation at 4%. Groceries, gas, electric and lumber are the first signs of record inflation which hurts t...1) Have you ever reviewed your posts from six months or a year ago regarding Biden? What do you think your predictive accuracy has been?

2) In light of (1), why do you continue posting? Don't you examine your motives or your success rate? Do you ever think about the electricity you have wasted and perhaps the poor, innocent electrons you have murdered?

3) More critically, why do I respond? (sigh). Have you heard that old joke? "Arguing with someone on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics -- even if you win, you're still a retard. " Okay, let me take my own advice and do something far more useful: wax the car, study French verbs, masturbate, or maybe simply pass out under a tree in the back yard.

Travv
05-15-21, 22:55
"USA —Democratic leaders across the country have called on Trump to take responsibility for his part in the sinking of the Titanic, which occurred in April of 1912.

"Until Trump admits that his hateful rhetoric led to this horrible tragedy, we will not be able to heal as a nation," said Rep. Adam Schiff of California. "We must get to the root causes of nautical disasters like this one, and we all know what the main root cause is: Donald J. Trump. ".

Leaders on the left pointed out that Trump and the right have typically been skeptical of climate change, which may have caused the iceberg that hit the Titanic to break off a glacier, dooming the vessel. They also suggested that Trump's hate and hubris reached back in time and inspired the builders of the Titanic to create such a faulty design with not enough lifeboats.

"In the age of Trump, even our early 20th century shipbuilders aren't immune to his brand of arrogance and hate," said Beto O'Rourke.

Dems also called on Trump to admit he had a hand in the creation of New Coke, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the hateful fearmongering that led to the rise of Jack the Ripper.

"Basically, all murders, all hate, all injustices since the dawn of time can be laid at Trump's feet," said Cory Booker, who is a senator in our timeline. "I am Spartacus!" he then added that Trump was also responsible for the murder of Spartacus. . . "

Full article:https://babylonbee.com/news/dems-criticize-trump-for-not-taking-ownership-of-the-sinking-of-the-titanic.


To get the economy going and to get Americans back to work to get unemployment to record numbers Trump had to reverse a lot of Obama regulations Trump tried to reduce size of government and give more back to the people but was only partially successful. Now with Biden president he will reverse a lot of the successes of Trump and the American people and increase government and regulations which will cause companies to charge more and inflation to skyrocket. In 4 months we are well on the way with inflation at 4%. Groceries, gas, electric and lumber are the first signs of record inflation which hurts the lower income.

Families the most. Don't need to fact check this just go to the pump or grocery store and decide for yourself.

Canada
05-15-21, 23:23
1) Have you ever reviewed your posts from six months or a year ago regarding Biden? What do you think your predictive accuracy has been?

2) In light of (1), why do you continue posting? Don't you examine your motives or your success rate? Do you ever think about the electricity you have wasted and perhaps the poor, innocent electrons you have murdered?

3) More critically, why do I respond? (sigh). Have you heard that old joke? "Arguing with someone on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics -- even if you win, you're still a retard. " Okay, let me take my own advice and do something far more useful: wax the car, study French verbs, masturbate, or maybe simply pass out under a tree in the back yard.I guess you are the only one that didn't know about all the executive orders Biden did. I guess you are the only one that hasn't seen the gas price increase and I am sure you think 4% inflation in 4 months is the standard for past presidents. Which country are you living in now?

GDreams
05-16-21, 00:54
Here it is.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/193290/unemployment-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/

Government statistics show USA e.

Unemployment hit all time low and more people were working in USA than ever before in 2018 and 2019. But whenever I prove it you just go to a liberal fact checker and dispute it.Yes you are correct. He did it on the same growth rates Obama achieved. If he had done absolutely nothing the result would have been the same but without blowing out the budget deficit. I would have thought that something simple as growth being 2. 3% under Obama and basically the same under Trump would have been pretty simple for a successful businessman such as yourself to understand.

Paulie97
05-16-21, 04:26
Agreed. I, too, am done.Trump cultists will always chirp the loudest and the longest. That's a given. But we got the only last word that matters, that at the polls. Now keep it up.

Member #4698
05-16-21, 13:10
Everything Biden and the radicals are doing is with purpose and designed to destroy the country. "The goal is to take over America and institute one party socialism over the entire country. The ends justify the means, therefor it is OK to:

Indoctrinate children in grade school with critical race theory.

Cancel the culture, rewrite history, control the media and what people can think.

Open the border, let millions in, and give them welfare checks. Nationalize voting rules. Legalize vote harvesting with no voter ID laws so insure the desired outcome.

Politicize the police and military. Place them under control of the Democratic Party.

Get rid of the 1st and 2nd amendment to the constitution. No more freedom of speech, no more right to defend oneself.

Raise taxes, Print money, Take over the economy. The real goal.

Do away with the time honored Senate Filibuster.

And Pack your Supreme Court so all this is possible.

Did I leave anything out?

Yeah, it's all Trump's fault. He is the boogey man. The enemy of the state. Just like Goldman in Orwell's "1984".

PVMonger
05-16-21, 14:04
I guess you are the only one that didn't know about all the executive orders Biden did. I guess you are the only one that hasn't seen the gas price increase and I am sure you think 4% inflation in 4 months is the standard for past presidents. Which country are you living in now?Your inflation rate assertion is as absurd as Fox's "4,000 people have died after getting the vaccine so the vaccine must be at fault" lunacy.

Evidently you have forgotten that much of the world's economy has been shut down for the past year due to COVID. Many raw material suppliers and manufacturers have been shut down. Supply has been down but so has demand.

Now that the US is starting to reopen, demand is up. But supply is still down because those mentioned above have not resumed full operation. Look at computer chips as an example. Many manufacturers of consumer goods can't get the chips they need. The raw materials and manufacturing of those chips come from offshore and aren't controlled by Biden.

What does high demand but low supply result in? Inflation.

But your "it all Biden's fault" bloviating plays well to the MAGA crowd.

Canada
05-16-21, 17:52
Trump cultists will always chirp the loudest and the longest. That's a given. But we got the only last word that matters, that at the polls. Now keep it up.Yes you have the polls and they are sinking fast on Biden. Believe it or not more people want a secure border, safe country and jobs than not.

Canada
05-16-21, 19:46
Your inflation rate assertion is as absurd as Fox's "4,000 people have died after getting the vaccine so the vaccine must be at fault" lunacy.

Evidently you have forgotten that much of the world's economy has been shut down for the past year due to COVID. Many raw material suppliers and manufacturers have been shut down. Supply has been down but so has demand.

Now that the US is starting to reopen, demand is up. But supply is still down because those mentioned above have not resumed full operation. Look at computer chips as an example. Many manufacturers of consumer goods can't get the chips they need. The raw materials and manufacturing of those chips come from offshore and aren't controlled by Biden.

What does high demand but low supply result in? Inflation.

But your "it all Biden's fault" bloviating plays well to the MAGA crowd.For the last 4 years anything that went wrong in the country was blamed on the president. 4 years was all Trump fault. Now that there is crises everywhere Biden can't be blamed for anything. Really? None of the issues at the border, Israel, inflation, cyber ransoms riots and highest crime in USA in 10 years are not Biden fault? The weakest president ever since Carter and Obama and you don't think the rest of the world won't take advantage of it. The rest of the world is gloating at the demise of America. Weak foreign policy will come to haunt us.

You don't think Biden cancelling pipelines, stopping all drilling on federal lands and more regulations for oil companies doesn't impact gas prices? You don't think if it costs more to produce oil and gas that gas prices will stay low? In 4 months of Biden we are now starting to have to import oil from Middle East again. There were no restrictions during Covid for food manufacturers or growers but groceries are higher. The lower income and middle class are suffering the most with Biden policy. You must be so proud.

Canada
05-16-21, 19:51
Everything Biden and the radicals are doing is with purpose and designed to destroy the country. "The goal is to take over America and institute one party socialism over the entire country. The ends justify the means, therefor it is OK to:

Indoctrinate children in grade school with critical race theory.

Cancel the culture, rewrite history, control the media and what people can think.

Open the border, let millions in, and give them welfare checks. Nationalize voting rules. Legalize vote harvesting with no voter ID laws so insure the desired outcome.

Politicize the police and military. Place them under control of the Democratic Party.

Get rid of the 1st and 2nd amendment to the constitution. No more freedom of speech, no more right to defend oneself.

Raise taxes, Print money, Take over the economy. The real goal.

Do away with the time honored Senate Filibuster.

And Pack your Supreme Court so all this is possible.

Did I leave anything out?

Yeah, it's all Trump's fault. He is the boogey man. The enemy of the state. Just like Goldman in Orwell's "1984".Great post but most on this site aren't smart enough to realize it. The lower income.

, middle class and small business are getting hurt the worst but most of the posters on this site don't care as long as they achieve socialism and cancel culture.

D Cups
05-16-21, 20:02
Everything Biden and the radicals are doing is with purpose and designed to destroy the country. "The goal is to take over America and institute one party socialism over the entire country. The ends justify the means, therefor it is OK to:

Indoctrinate children in grade school with critical race theory.

Cancel the culture, rewrite history, control the media and what people can think.

Open the border, let millions in, and give them welfare checks. Nationalize voting rules. Legalize vote harvesting with no voter ID laws so insure the desired outcome.

Politicize the police and military. Place them under control of the Democratic Party.

Get rid of the 1st and 2nd amendment to the constitution. No more freedom of speech, no more right to defend oneself.I think you covered it, buddy. Well said.

Paulie97
05-16-21, 20:04
Everything Biden and the radicals are doing is with purpose and designed to destroy the country. "The goal is to take over America and institute one party socialism over the entire country. The ends justify the means, therefor it is OK to:

Indoctrinate children in grade school with critical race theory.

Cancel the culture, rewrite history, control the media and what people can think.

Open the border, let millions in, and give them welfare checks. Nationalize voting rules. Legalize vote harvesting with no voter ID laws so insure the desired outcome.

Politicize the police and military. Place them under control of the Democratic Party.

Get rid of the 1st and 2nd amendment to the constitution. No more freedom of speech, no more right to defend oneself.First I recommend that you ditch all the Chicken Little esque hyperbole and hysteria. Then "have a nervous breakdown, get therapy and come to terms with the modern world. ".

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/opinions/fareed-gop-special-op-ed/index.html

PVMonger
05-17-21, 00:36
For the last 4 years anything that went wrong in the country was blamed on the president. 4 years was all Trump fault. Now that there is crises everywhere Biden can't be blamed for anything. Really? None of the issues at the border, Israel, inflation, cyber ransoms riots and highest crime in USA in 10 years are not Biden fault? The weakest president ever since Carter and Obama and you don't think the rest of the world won't take advantage of it. The rest of the world is gloating at the demise of America. Weak foreign policy will come to haunt us.

You don't think Biden cancelling pipelines, stopping all drilling on federal lands and more regulations for oil companies doesn't impact gas prices? You don't think if it costs more to produce oil and gas that gas prices will stay low? In 4 months of Biden we are now starting to have to import oil from Middle East again. There were no restrictions during Covid for food manufacturers or growers but groceries are higher. The lower income and middle class are suffering the most with Biden policy. You must be so proud.Rant, bloviate, tell lies. All without substantiation. Typical trump supporter.

I realize that you can neither read nor think, but nowhere in my post did I mention food.

All you want to talk about is gas. Go take a Gas-X.

Member #4698
05-17-21, 02:31
First I recommend that you ditch all the Chicken Little esque hyperbole and hysteria. Then "have a nervous breakdown, get therapy and come to terms with the modern world. ".
Thanks Paulie, you state your position so succinctly. I do not know you, but I know exactly where you are coming from. But if your cause is so fait accompli, then why do you get so out of joint when someone disagrees with it?

EihTooms
05-17-21, 03:26
Here it is.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/193290/unemployment-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/

Government statistics show USA e.

Unemployment hit all time low and more people were working in USA than ever before in 2018 and 2019. But whenever I prove it you just go to a liberal fact checker and dispute it.Yes, we all know the unemployment rate's downward trajectory due entirely to Obama-Biden / Dem economic stewardship continued into the first 2-3 years of Trump's so-called presidency despite or perhaps thanks to Trump doing very little other than vacationing and playing more golf (at his failing resorts) than any other so-called potus in history.

Again, I must thank you for providing a link that proves my position correct and yours wrong. You see what happened in 2014-2015 as shown in your link? Those were the years Obama-Biden reduced the unemployment rate to below 6%, which in this era is considered "Full Employment" by the Fed and other agencies that adjust policy based on such things.

Once a labor force has reached "Full Employment" and, as it did in this case, continues to improve over the next 2-3 years, an uptick or downtick of a percent or two is relatively insignificant and is often just the result of employed people changing jobs or lifestyles.

Trump was not the so-called president when that happened in 2014-2015. Neither was Mitt Romney, who campaigned in 2012 on his favorite Republican policies and brilliance getting us to 6% unemployment post-The Great Bush Recession in 4 years. Obama-Biden did that in 2 years.

EihTooms
05-17-21, 03:40
To get the economy going and to get Americans back to work to get unemployment to record numbers Trump had to reverse a lot of Obama regulations Trump tried to reduce size of government and give more back to the people but was only partially successful. Now with Biden president he will reverse a lot of the successes of Trump and the American people and increase government and regulations which will cause companies to charge more and inflation to skyrocket. In 4 months we are well on the way with inflation at 4%. Groceries, gas, electric and lumber are the first signs of record inflation which hurts the lower income.

Families the most. Don't need to fact check this just go to the pump or grocery store and decide for yourself.Annualized inflation is at 3% for the moment. The Fed would prefer it to be about 2.5% during this particular Great Dem Recovery from this particular Great Repub Crash and Recessiom. Not too far off. Much better to be 1/2 of 1 percentage point higher than you prefer it than lower.

Reducing hyper inflation is one of the easiest things a Fed can do. That is the economic problem among so many possibles that you WANT to have. Producing a fix for rapidly falling and downward spirally prices (DEflation) as is likely to happen during these consistent Great Repub Crashes and Recessions, is hard to do. That's the economic problem you don't want.

EihTooms
05-17-21, 03:51
To get the economy going and to get Americans back to work to get unemployment to record numbers Trump had to reverse a lot of Obama regulations Trump tried to reduce size of government and give more back to the people but was only partially successful. Now with Biden president he will reverse a lot of the successes of Trump and the American people and increase government and regulations which will cause companies to charge more and inflation to skyrocket. In 4 months we are well on the way with inflation at 4%. Groceries, gas, electric and lumber are the first signs of record inflation which hurts the lower income.

Families the most. Don't need to fact check this just go to the pump or grocery store and decide for yourself.Did you know that food and fuel costs are often separated from inflation calculations and rates due to their seasonal and temporary price fluxuation and volatility?

In fact, higher food and fuel costs are typically anti-inflationary. I know that sounds counter intuitive, but here is the nuance; we don't have the choice to buy food and fuel or not. So if we are paying more for those things that leaves us less money to buy items for which we do have a choice or can easily delay.

EihTooms
05-17-21, 04:02
Everything Biden and the radicals are doing is with purpose and designed to destroy the country. "The goal is to take over America and institute one party socialism over the entire country. The ends justify the means, therefor it is OK to:

Indoctrinate children in grade school with critical race theory.

Cancel the culture, rewrite history, control the media and what people can think.

Open the border, let millions in, and give them welfare checks. Nationalize voting rules. Legalize vote harvesting with no voter ID laws so insure the desired outcome.

Politicize the police and military. Place them under control of the Democratic Party.

Get rid of the 1st and 2nd amendment to the constitution. No more freedom of speech, no more right to defend oneself.

Raise taxes, Print money, Take over the economy. The real goal.

Do away with the time honored Senate Filibuster.

And Pack your Supreme Court so all this is possible.

Did I leave anything out?

Yeah, it's all Trump's fault. He is the boogey man. The enemy of the state. Just like Goldman in Orwell's "1984".Yes, you left out the parts about the child abuse and eating their flesh in the secret chamber of a pizza parlour, the microscopic tracking device in the vaccine solution, the Hollywood GGI special effects employed to make an ordinary tour of the Capitol Building by peaceful police-loving patriots look like a violent overthrow of American democracy and a few other favorite "conservative" gems.

Paulie97
05-17-21, 05:14
Thanks Paulie, you state your position so succinctly. I do not know you, but I know exactly where you are coming from. But if your cause is so fait accompli, then why do you get so out of joint when someone disagrees with it?The post below that I responded to sounded like a man bent very out of joint. LOL.

We saw the ends justify the means crowd at the Capital January 6th. Virtually all conservatives are socialists as they enjoy their Medicare, Social Security, Pell Grants, students loans, etc. Etc. Red baiting is an archaic tactic, not 21st see so time to move on. We see radicalism and bigotry in people undermining our democracy alleging mass voter fraud / stolen election lies while targeting blacks and browns in the process. Your crowd is the best advertisement of all for a reckoning on race. And ethnocentric myths have in many cases made it into our cultures. Yes we will work to correct them, as well as counter dumb shit kickers who stick up for the Confederacy. That involves correcting historical errors, not rewriting history. The Supreme Court? Well conservatives have lost seven of the last eight popular votes yet hold six of the nine justices. That doesn't well represent our people, and there's nothing in the Constitution that prohibits expanding the court. It's on the table but with an uncertain future.

"Politicize the military?" LOL That's a timeless, worldwide issue, but in recent times the greater concerns have involved Trump. Nonetheless if you don't want Democrats in power then you need to do better in the elections.

https://warontherocks.com/2019/06/the-increasingly-dangerous-politicization-of-the-u-s-military/

Let's see what does that leave us? Repeal the first and second amendments? LOL No you can't stockpile machines guns. Yes we are going to have background checks and weed out the violent and mentally ill. No you don't have a Constitutional right to post incendiary messages calling for violence on private social media platforms. The same goes for Covid denialism, anti-vaxxer nonsense, and kooky stolen election conspiracy theories. You can though start your own blog or website, though the violence part, gallows on the Capital steps and the like are always a tough sell. The filibuster? Looks like you need to do a better job of convincing the people of your talking points so you don't have to stonewall. Stonewalling is for losers. Don't be a loser. Rather than crying about these immigrants you need to win them over. It's not our fault you lost the WH, Congress, and the Senate inside of four years. And we will continue to oppose stolen election lies and voter suppression efforts as they undermine our democracy.

So Chicken Little did I leave anything out? That took all of twenty minutes. It's easy for you to type out a list of half-truths, fake spins, and complete falsehoods via simplistic talking points, even from your phone bored sitting on a barstool. A real discussion is another matter, and there's been some of that on this thread over the last six months. In fact all of your claims have been refuted multiple times in the past by me and others, which proves another point I've made. That the Trumpian crowd, like Trump himself is famous for ignoring rebuttals while repeating the same fallacies ad nauseam. Your is just another installment of that. C'est La Vie.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Argument-by-Repetition

And of course you are the one panicking because you keep losing, at the polls, in the courts, in the court of public opinion, everywhere. We are winning and at the helm. It's been fun.


Everything Biden and the radicals are doing is with purpose and designed to destroy the country. "The goal is to take over America and institute one party socialism over the entire country. The ends justify the means, therefor it is OK to:

Indoctrinate children in grade school with critical race theory.

Cancel the culture, rewrite history, control the media and what people can think.

Open the border, let millions in, and give them welfare checks. Nationalize voting rules. Legalize vote harvesting with no voter ID laws so insure the desired outcome.

Politicize the police and military. Place them under control of the Democratic Party.

Get rid of the 1st and 2nd amendment to the constitution. No more freedom of speech, no more right to defend oneself.

Raise taxes, Print money, Take over the economy. The real goal..

Canada
05-17-21, 05:14
Yes, we all know the unemployment rate's downward trajectory due entirely to Obama-Biden / Dem economic stewardship continued into the first 2-3 years of Trump's so-called presidency despite or perhaps thanks to Trump doing very little other than vacationing and playing more golf (at his failing resorts) than any other so-called potus in history.

Again, I must thank you for providing a link that proves my position correct and yours wrong. You see what happened in 2014-2015 as shown in your link? Those were the years Obama-Biden reduced the unemployment rate to below 6%, which in this era is considered "Full Employment" by the Fed and other agencies that adjust policy based on such things.

Once a labor force has reached "Full Employment" and, as it did in this case, continues to improve over the next 2-3 years, an uptick or downtick of a percent or two is relatively insignificant and is often just the result of employed people changing jobs or lifestyles.

Trump was not the so-called president when that happened in 2014-2015. Neither was Mitt Romney, who campaigned in 2012 on his favorite Republican policies and brilliance getting us to 6% unemployment post-The Great Bush Recession in 4 years. Obama-Biden did that in 2 years.Yes I know that when Obama was president democrats thought 6% unemployment was full employment but Trump lowered it to 3. 5% and he didn't consider it full employment. You just hold Obama to a lower standard than Trump. Trump could do more for the American people while playing golf than Biden will ever do on the job in a year. Just a fact. I can't believe you condone Obama and Biden failures but you criticize all Trump success. I guess you much like Biden prefer to see America fail like they are doing in the first 4 months of Biden. Why are democrats anti America?

Canada
05-17-21, 05:17
Did you know that food and fuel costs are often separated from inflation calculations and rates due to their seasonal and temporary price fluxuation and volatility?

In fact, higher food and fuel costs are typically anti-inflationary. I know that sounds counter intuitive, but here is the nuance; we don't have the choice to buy food and fuel or not. So if we are paying more for those things that leaves us less money to buy items for which we do have a choice or can easily delay.Fools keep thinking increases in gas prices, food prices, car prices and building materials aren't inflation. Tell that to the lower income families that can't afford Biden's America.

Canada
05-17-21, 05:36
Annualized inflation is at 3% for the moment. The Fed would prefer it to be about 2.5% during this particular Great Dem Recovery from this particular Great Repub Crash and Recessiom. Not too far off. Much better to be 1/2 of 1 percentage point higher than you prefer it than lower.

Reducing hyper inflation is one of the easiest things a Fed can do. That is the economic problem among so many possibles that you WANT to have. Producing a fix for rapidly falling and downward spirally prices (DEflation) as is likely to happen during these consistent Great Repub Crashes and Recessions, is hard to do. That's the economic problem you don't want.Here is an article posted by CNBC on May 10 concerned about rising inflation. Further in their report they say the biggest increase to consumer goods is on used cars and trucks which is a leading indicator for inflation along with groceries, gas and expendables. High inflation equate to economy collapsing.

USA 2021 inflation January thru April 2. 62% to date and rising quickly. Annualized projected 10%.

The inflation rate plays an important role in determining the health of an economy. Countries with extremely high inflation rates are said to have hyperinflation and when this occurs the economy is often near collapse. But even moderate inflation can rapidly erode purchasing power and creates uncertainty as businesses have more difficulty estimating future costs. Usually, high inflation rates also correspond to high interest rates as lenders need to compensate for the decline in purchasing power of future interest and principal repayments. This results in higher costs of doing business and place an overall drag on the economy.

Canada
05-17-21, 05:40
Yes, you left out the parts about the child abuse and eating their flesh in the secret chamber of a pizza parlour, the microscopic tracking device in the vaccine solution, the Hollywood GGI special effects employed to make an ordinary tour of the Capitol Building by peaceful police-loving patriots look like a violent overthrow of American democracy and a few other favorite "conservative" gems.I don't know about most of the things you wrote but you are correct the post forgot to mention the child abuse at the border and the domestic terrorists Antifa and BLM.

Paulie97
05-17-21, 05:40
But if your cause is so fait accompliSure it's inevitable, but Fared and the rest of us know full well that you'll be taken there kicking and screaming. That's what all the lying / denial is about, is one of the fundamental stages of grief.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/16/opinions/fareed-gop-special-op-ed/index.html

Paulie97
05-17-21, 07:15
I think you covered it, buddy. Well said.It tells us a lot because we recall what you called the VP while referencing her mixed race heritage. Yes what flows freely in what is perceived as safe company sometimes slips, especially after some drinks and / or under anonymity. But it reaffirms what we are dealing with while you keep proving our points. It also drives voter turnout which was essential in the last election.

EihTooms
05-17-21, 07:45
Yes I know that when Obama was president democrats thought 6% unemployment was full employment but Trump lowered it to 3. 5% and he didn't consider it full employment. You just hold Obama to a lower standard than Trump. Trump could do more for the American people while playing golf than Biden will ever do on the job in a year. Just a fact. I can't believe you condone Obama and Biden failures but you criticize all Trump success. I guess you much like Biden prefer to see America fail like they are doing in the first 4 months of Biden. Why are democrats anti America?Actually, the steady years' long downward trajectory of the unemployment rate that Trump inherited from Obama-Biden went from 4.7% when Trump took office to 3.5% on its best day pre Trump's Pandemic. Ok, that is a 1.2 percentage point decrease. If he had anything to do with it at all it came at a cost of $2.5 Trillion Trump he added to the deficit.

But, really, once Obama-Biden and the other Dems got us below 6% unemployment way back in 2014-2015, "Full Employment" in this era, a variation of a percentage point or two is insignificant in terms of overall jobs creation and a national economy. Hardly worth adding $2.5 Trillion to the deficit with that one and only godawful economic legislation he signed.

LOL. No matter how much Trump crowed about that additional 1.2 percentage point decline and so many other things, his Job Approval ratings never looked like they belonged to some economic turnaround stable genius he hoped to bamboozle us into seeing him. For a very good reason; he wasn't.

The vast majority of Americans knew he was just a pathetic failure trying desperately to take credit for positive conditions he inherited while, most pathetic of all, slamming those who preceeded him who did all the work, heavy lifting and assumed all the political risk to produce those positive results.

Paulie97
05-17-21, 07:50
Yes, you left out the parts about the child abuse and eating their flesh in the secret chamber of a pizza parlour, the microscopic tracking device in the vaccine solution, the Hollywood GGI special effects employed to make an ordinary tour of the Capitol Building by peaceful police-loving patriots look like a violent overthrow of American democracy and a few other favorite "conservative" gems.Ironic that these are the people so concerned about thought control.

EihTooms
05-17-21, 08:00
Here is an article posted by CNBC on May 10 concerned about rising inflation. Further in their report they say the biggest increase to consumer goods is on used cars and trucks which is a leading indicator for inflation along with groceries, gas and expendables. High inflation equate to economy collapsing.

USA 2021 inflation January thru April 2. 62% to date and rising quickly. Annualized projected 10%.

The inflation rate plays an important role in determining the health of an economy. Countries with extremely high inflation rates are said to have hyperinflation and when this occurs the economy is often near collapse. But even moderate inflation can rapidly erode purchasing power and creates uncertainty as businesses have more difficulty estimating future costs. Usually, high inflation rates also correspond to high interest rates as lenders need to compensate for the decline in purchasing power of future interest and principal repayments. This results in higher costs of doing business and place an overall drag on the economy.I did not see a link to that full article in your post. I am curious to see the reasoning whoever wrote it used to conclude that "High inflation equate to economy collapsing."

That is not remotely close to the truth. That point is not even made in the rest of your post if some of that was quoting from the article.

High inflation might come about due to wage inflation, too many jobs being created for the number of applicants applying for them. That happened under Carter and the fix was quite simple as long as the POTUS at the time had the balls and political will to appoint a Fed Chairman with the intention of doing it (raise the Fed Funds rates. Then after inflation is tamed those Fed Funds rates can be lowered). Carter did that in late 1979 with his new Fed Chairman appontee Paul Volker. By early 1980, a year before Reagan took office and 4 years before Reagan began crowing about reducing inflation that Carter did all the work to fix, the rate of inflation was already beginning to decline quite steadily.

Canada
05-17-21, 14:40
Actually, the steady years' long downward trajectory of the unemployment rate that Trump inherited from Obama-Biden went from 4.7% when Trump took office to 3.5% on its best day pre Trump's Pandemic. Ok, that is a 1.2 percentage point decrease. If he had anything to do with it at all it came at a cost of $2.5 Trillion Trump he added to the deficit.

But, really, once Obama-Biden and the other Dems got us below 6% unemployment way back in 2014-2015, "Full Employment" in this era, a variation of a percentage point or two is insignificant in terms of overall jobs creation and a national economy. Hardly worth adding $2.5 Trillion to the deficit with that one and only godawful economic legislation he signed.

LOL. No matter how much Trump crowed about that additional 1.2 percentage point decline and so many other things, his Job Approval ratings never looked like they belonged to some economic turnaround stable genius he hoped to bamboozle us into seeing him. For a very good reason; he wasn't.

The vast majority of Americans knew he was just a pathetic failure trying desperately to take credit for positive conditions he inherited while, most pathetic of all, slamming those who preceeded him who did all the work, heavy lifting and assumed all the political risk to produce those positive results.As I said in previous posts whenever Trump achieved better results than Obama the democrats and the media wouldn't accept it. Always made an excuse for all the Trump successes.

EihTooms
05-17-21, 15:48
As I said in previous posts whenever Trump achieved better results than Obama the democrats and the media wouldn't accept it. Always made an excuse for all the Trump successes.No, mainstream media was always encouraging Trump to stop the lunatic, misspelled and damn near incoherent tweets about this or that easily debunked conspiracy theory and "talk up the great economy." LOL. Trying in vain to help him win re-election or to at least inch his Job Approval rating above 39-47% every now and then.

Which hilariously and falsely implied to anyone watching, listening to or reading mainstream media that Trump had anything whatsoever to do with the positive condition of the economy pre Trump's Pandemic.

But then, mainstream media was and still is always rooting for Repubs to win elections, Trump included. See, mainstream media thrives on bad news, not good news. By necessity, that requires it to play up and help Repubs win elections and downplay and throw out hurdles to prevent Dems from winning them.

Canada
05-17-21, 16:38
No, mainstream media was always encouraging Trump to stop the lunatic, misspelled and damn near incoherent tweets about this or that easily debunked conspiracy theory and "talk up the great economy." LOL. Trying in vain to help him win re-election or to at least inch his Job Approval rating above 39-47% every now and then.

Which hilariously and falsely implied to anyone watching, listening to or reading mainstream media that Trump had anything whatsoever to do with the positive condition of the economy pre Trump's Pandemic.

But then, mainstream media was and still is always rooting for Repubs to win elections, Trump included. See, mainstream media thrives on bad news, not good news. By necessity, that requires it to play up and help Repubs win elections and downplay and throw out hurdles to prevent Dems from winning them.Which country do you live in? Obviously not USA.

Member #4698
05-17-21, 17:26
mainstream media was and still is always rooting for Repubs to win elections, Trump included.You must be joking, even though I know you are not. 555. Seriously though, no offence intended, this is the most absurd statement I have heard since, "Protesters in California set fire to a courthouse, damaged a police station and assaulted officers after a peaceful demonstration intensified. " -ABC News (Disney).


See, mainstream media thrives on bad news, not good news. By necessity, that requires it to play up and help Repubs win elections and downplay and throw out hurdles to prevent Dems from winning them.Once again your logic escapes me. Didn't corporate media spend every waking hour of the entire Trump Presidency reporting on the so called collusion between Trump and Putin that in fact never occurred or at the very least could not be proven as evidenced by the final conclusions of the Mueller Report. https://youtu.be/7iaMJXree3I.

And your assertion that the corporate media thrives on bad new is negated by their lack of coverage on Biden's first 100 days in office which is strewn with one disaster piling up on another. Is it really you contention that the news coverage would be the same if Trump were still president and these same disasters were piling up?

Sojourner
05-17-21, 20:07
You can't check the state because the state deleted the chart and the evidence so nobody will ever know the truth. Seems like everytime some real evidence gets presented it it quickly eliminated by the democrats. As soon as USA Today ran the story the evidence disappeared. And you wonder why Republicans want a honest election.Per your article your statement is not true. But whether there was a problem reading a chart or not the core issue is that the statement was mixing Primary and General Election data. In short, the claim that the numbers don't add up is false.

And frankly if in fact there was a chart that conservatives seemed unable to read correctly, would removing that chart be a bad thing? What does it say about a person who thinks removing confusing charts is proof the mis-reading is true? Again, I see no evidence that anything was taken down, but do you really think that everyone else in the state government and the press were too stupid to notice something that basic didn't add up? Most likely every ballot has a unique ID which makes such things completely impossible and only those who don't really understand the process can be persuaded.

Canada
05-17-21, 20:46
Per your article your statement is not true. But whether there was a problem reading a chart or not the core issue is that the statement was mixing Primary and General Election data. In short, the claim that the numbers don't add up is false.

And frankly if in fact there was a chart that conservatives seemed unable to read correctly, would removing that chart be a bad thing? What does it say about a person who thinks removing confusing charts is proof the mis-reading is true? Again, I see no evidence that anything was taken down, but do you really think that everyone else in the state government and the press were too stupid to notice something that basic didn't add up? Most likely every ballot has a unique ID which makes such things completely impossible and only those who don't really understand the process can be persuaded.No I think it is possible to counterfeit anything these days including currency. I don't think everyone hired to count ballots by the democrats was capable of distinguishing if a ballot was real or fake. In many cases they didn't even verify signatures so I along with millions believe that if you really want to cheat in any election it is possible.

Canada
05-18-21, 00:17
You must be joking, even though I know you are not. 555. Seriously though, no offence intended, this is the most absurd statement I have heard since, "Protesters in California set fire to a courthouse, damaged a police station and assaulted officers after a peaceful demonstration intensified. " -ABC News (Disney).

Once again your logic escapes me. Didn't corporate media spend every waking hour of the entire Trump Presidency reporting on the so called collusion between Trump and Putin that in fact never occurred or at the very least could not be proven as evidenced by the final conclusions of the Mueller Report. https://youtu.be/7iaMJXree3I.

And your assertion that the corporate media thrives on bad new is negated by their lack of coverage on Biden's first 100 days in office which is strewn with one disaster piling up on another. Is it really you contention that the news coverage would be the same if Trump were still president and these same disasters were piling up?You are absolutely right. The media did everything possible to get Biden elected. Lie and more lies to get Biden elected Now that USA is in turmoil and Biden's is screwing daily the media is deathly silent. The media still has not fessed up to even one of Biden's main screwups and if Trump had done what Biden did in first hundred days it be anti Trump 24 hours a day.

EihTooms
05-18-21, 03:22
You must be joking, even though I know you are not. 555. Seriously though, no offence intended, this is the most absurd statement I have heard since, "Protesters in California set fire to a courthouse, damaged a police station and assaulted officers after a peaceful demonstration intensified. " -ABC News (Disney).

Once again your logic escapes me. Didn't corporate media spend every waking hour of the entire Trump Presidency reporting on the so called collusion between Trump and Putin that in fact never occurred or at the very least could not be proven as evidenced by the final conclusions of the Mueller Report. https://youtu.be/7iaMJXree3I.

And your assertion that the corporate media thrives on bad new is negated by their lack of coverage on Biden's first 100 days in office which is strewn with one disaster piling up on another. Is it really you contention that the news coverage would be the same if Trump were still president and these same disasters were piling up?Since when does accurate reporting of bad news vs good news help either side win elections? If that were true we never would have had a second Reagan term, a second George W. Bush term or as close to a second Trump term as we got. We would have had a second Carter term though.

The American electorate votes primarily on economic issues and they love to vote for "winners" or perceived "winners."

On those factors, mainstream media's assistance in helping Repubs win over Dems is unfailing.

According to mainstream media all through every election in my lifetime and right up to this very minute, "Republicans handle the economy better than Democrats and the stock market likes Republicans more."

Yet that has never been true for at least 100 years. In fact, it could not have been more false over the past 100 years or so.

And if the Repub failure is particularly spectacular, count on mainstream media to twist itself into a pretzel to assert some non existent "Both Sides Do It" arguement in order to slant the playing field back to the Repubs before the next election. No, Both Sides don't produce every Great Recession and major Bear Market Crash of the past 100 years and none of the boom times. Only Repubs have done that.

"Winners vs Losers"? According to mainstream media, a Repub win is always a "Republican Victory!" But a Dem win is also a "Republican Victory!" LOL.

One needs to go no further than this past election where the Dems won control of the Senate, maintained (won) control of the House and won the White House against an incumbent, a victory so elusive it is the first time it happened since Herbert Hoover.

Yet mainstream media has been falling all over itself to characterize that election as a humiliating loss for the Dems that requires some real soul searching or a post-death autopsy for them to figure out what they got wrong so it never happens again.

Mainstream media always helps Repubs win elections the way they are won in the real world whenever possible. Not Dems.

BTW, Natty, I replied to your PM but I think your mailbox must be full. I did not see my reply land there.

Canada
05-18-21, 05:09
Since when does accurate reporting of bad news vs good news help either side win elections? If that were true we never would have had a second Reagan term, a second George W. Bush term or as close to a second Trump term as we got. We would have had a second Carter term though.

The American electorate votes primarily on economic issues and they love to vote for "winners" or perceived "winners."

On those factors, mainstream media's assistance in helping Repubs win over Dems is unfailing.

According to mainstream media all through every election in my lifetime and right up to this very minute, "Republicans handle the economy better than Democrats and the stock market likes Republicans more."

Yet that has never been true for at least 100 years. In fact, it could not have been more false over the past 100 years or so.

And if the Repub failure is particularly spectacular, count on mainstream media to twist itself into a pretzel to assert some non existent "Both Sides Do It" arguement in order to slant the playing field back to the Repubs before the next election. No, Both Sides don't produce every Great Recession and major Bear Market Crash of the past 100 years and none of the boom times. Only Repubs have done that.

"Winners vs Losers"? According to mainstream media, a Repub win is always a "Republican Victory!" But a Dem win is also a "Republican Victory!" LOL.

One needs to go no further than this past election where the Dems won control of the Senate, maintained (won) control of the House and won the White House against an incumbent, a victory so elusive it is the first time it happened since Herbert Hoover.

Yet mainstream media has been falling all over itself to characterize that election as a humiliating loss for the Dems that requires some real soul searching or a post-death autopsy for them to figure out what they got wrong so it never happens again.

Mainstream media always helps Repubs win elections the way they are won in the real world whenever possible. Not Dems.
The media has changed drastically since the Reagan years.

BTW, Natty, I replied to your PM but I think your mailbox must be full. I did not see my reply land there.I don't know who makes this up and I don't know anyone but you that could believe such crap as you posted but possibly you could have gotten it from CNN. They make this kind of crap up all the time.

Carter didn't win a 2Nd term because he was the worse president ever for inflation and the economy. Not for long though. Biden has done more Carter crap in 4 months than Carter did in 4 years. Biden definitely takes the title away from Carter. At least Biden gets rid of worst VP ever. Harris will win that in a landslide.

Reagan would have won a third term with his economy. Newscaster were fairly honest back in the Reagan years but now the media is just a platform of propaganda for the Democratic Party. No real news anymore from CNN, MSNBB, ABC, CBS or NBC nationally. Locally a little better.

Canada
05-18-21, 05:18
Today on the news they had the statistics for murders and crime in democratic cities New York, Chicago, Portland, Minneapolis and Atlanta. Crime up 77% to 300% murders up 38% to 177% in these cities. All these citified defunded their police like all good democrats do and are now suffering the consequences. But will they admit it is from defunding the police? After 6 dead and 24 shot in Atlanta the mayor had this to say.

Atlantans deserve and expect a safe community. *As our Administration continues to put considerable resources*towards ending this COVID crime wave, the Anti-Violence Advisory Committee will begin work this week to make additional recommendations to help improve public safety throughout our city," Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said.

All the crime in USA is up because of Covid not defunding the police. How dumb can they be.

It is a proud day for democrats today.

John Clayton
05-18-21, 05:58
Today on the news they had the statistics for murders and crime in democratic cities New York, Chicago, Portland, Minneapolis and Atlanta. Crime up 77% to 300% murders up 38% to 177% in these cities. All these citified defunded their police like all good democrats do and are now suffering the consequences. But will they admit it is from defunding the police? After 6 dead and 24 shot in Atlanta the mayor had this to say.

Atlantans deserve and expect a safe community. *As our Administration continues to put considerable resources*towards ending this COVID crime wave, the Anti-Violence Advisory Committee will begin work this week to make additional recommendations to help improve public safety throughout our city," Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said.

All the crime in USA is up because of Covid not defunding the police. How dumb can they be.

It is a proud day for democrats today.Real question is why do you spend all this effort posting drivel? Also, what is the source of your fear? Have you ever stopped to think about what motivates your fear of Biden, Harris or AOC?

Do you every look at your previous posts and regret your predictions. How 'bout pointing out for us just one of your predictions from six months ago that you believe was accurate.

FYI, Jimmy Carter is a great human being. He inherited a country in "stagflation". The double digit inflation was the result of OPEC successfully doubling oil prices in 1977-78. Did you ever wonder why the 52 American diplomatic hostages were only released minutes after Reagan was inaugurated? It's because Reagan made a secret deal with the mullahs not to release the hostages in exchange for American weapons. Carter had established a total arms embargo against Iran in 1979. Immediately after Reagan became President, he secretly and illegally rescinded that order and sold weapons to Khomeni. Remember "Arms for Hostages", which was revealed in 1986? Iran-Contra?

Jimmy Carter is everything that Trump is not. Carter was a US naval officer, a truly successful businessman, a long serving state senator, careful Govenor, and an honest, thoughtful, patriotic President. His entire post Presidency has been dedicated to selfless humanitarianism. He never grifted and never cheated. He is a patriot.

Canada, I believe you are an unfortunate victim of the right wing propaganda conspiracy machine. Turn off your teevee. Read actual history before you comment on it. Read about OPEC, read about the causes of inflation in the late 70's, read about Paul Volker, read about why, when and how Reagan sold arms to Khomeni. Turn off Fox for a month and read a book.

EihTooms
05-18-21, 11:41
I don't know who makes this up and I don't know anyone but you that could believe such crap as you posted but possibly you could have gotten it from CNN. They make this kind of crap up all the time.

Carter didn't win a 2Nd term because he was the worse president ever for inflation and the economy. Not for long though. Biden has done more Carter crap in 4 months than Carter did in 4 years. Biden definitely takes the title away from Carter. At least Biden gets rid of worst VP ever. Harris will win that in a landslide.

Reagan would have won a third term with his economy. Newscaster were fairly honest back in the Reagan years but now the media is just a platform of propaganda for the Democratic Party. No real news anymore from CNN, MSNBB, ABC, CBS or NBC nationally. Locally a little better.You clearly were the perfect dupe target for the mainstream media punditry that helped Reagan win that election. And re-election. Carter's record on average annual jobs creation is among the best of all time. Maybe second or third only to Clinton and JFK/LBJ. His record on it dwarfed that of Reagan. And, unlike Reagan, he didn't have to triple the National Debt to do it. His "recession" was one of the shortest and smallest of all time. And it was purposely induced by Fed Chairman Paul Volker by raising Fed Funds rates in order to (drum roll) cool down an overheated economy that was producing many more jobs than there were applicants to take them, triggering wage inflation. No matter, since hyper-inflation was already coming down steadily within 2-3 months of Volker initiating his fix on it.

By contrast, Reagan inherited from Carter a steadily declining unemployment rate in the low 7% range that continued to decline through Reagan's first year in office after a single month high during that purposely induced "recession" (that barely lasted more than 1 quarter in early 1980) of 7.8%, a steadily declining unemployment rate, one of the best jobs creation presidential terms in history (Carter), NO wars, a moderately manageable National Debt and Deficit, two back-to-back quarters while Carter was still president of 7.8% and 8.5% GDP Growth and proceeded to get his idiotic and always failed Supply-Side/Trickle-Down "Reaganomics" policies in place. Whereupon the country soon plunged into what was then the worst economic decline since The Great Republican Depression of the late 1920's/early 1930's. Reagan's Great Recession began at the beginning of 1982, his SECOND year in office and included ten consecutive months of 10%+ Unemployment Rate that extended well into his THIRD year in office.

Was hyper-inflation tamed under Reagan? Yep. But not due to anything he did. Well, unless you count one of the worst Great Republican Recessions in history as something Reagan's economic policies produced in order to bring down inflation that was already declining a year before he took office. It turns out when jobs are being eliminated by the millions, businesses are closing and wages are falling, the prices of housing, rent and automobiles might tend to decline a bit as well.

I know, I know. Despite the data that was easily available and reported on, mainstream media pundits kept telling you, "Carter ruined the economy and Reagan fixed it! Let's have MORE Republicans win elections so they can repeat Reagan's economic policies and results over and over and over again!" So it must be true, right? Except that isn't what Carter did or Reagan did by a long shot.

Did subsequent mainstream media-assisted Republican presidents repeat Reagan's policies and crap results? They sure did. Enter the more than a year long Recession under George H.W. Bush, both Recessions under George W. Bush including one really, really big one and Trump's Great Pandemic Recession that his Supply-Side/Trickle-Down Republican economic legislation did absolutely nothing to mitigate. Republican presidents can't seem to pass up any opportunity to Crash the U.S. economy and wipe out millions of U.S. jobs by any means necessary. They are always there to embrace whatever it takes to do that to the country.

Clinton didn't repeat those Reaganomics policies though. He and his Dems reversed them in 1993. Without a single vote from a Republican in Congress. No Recession. No Bear Market Crash. No massive jobs destruction. Just one of the longest economic expansions, jobs creation records and Bull Markets in history. Oh, and Obama didn't repeat them either. No Recession. No Bear Market Crash. No massive jobs destruction. Just another one of the longest economic expansions, jobs creation records and Bull Markets in history. Again, without a single vote for his American Recovery and Re-investment Act from a Republican in Congress. At least they're consistent.

The best endorsement for Biden's American Rescue Plan's success is that no Republicans in Congress voted for it.

Member #4698
05-18-21, 13:06
Time Out


BTW, Natty, I replied to your PM but I think your mailbox must be full. I did not see my reply land there.ET, yeah, my mailbox was full and I did not receive your message, only a notice that something had been sent. I have since deleted some old messages. So, please resend. -Time Out.

Now you guys can go back and proclaim Jimmy Carter a great president if you want. I am done debating with you guys for another 6 months or so. Let's see how bad the US economy gets. Things could get very bad indeed. President Biden is not Joe Biden. Joe Biden is brain dead. A bureau of unnamed radicals are running the country. Everyone knows this whether they are politically willing to admit it or not.

It should be noted that I am a social libertarian and philosophically, economically I subscribe to Milton Friedman's theory of Modern Monetarism. I therefore strongly believe in limited government and the benefits of free enterprise. I received my MBA and worked on my graduate degree at the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business. I am very worried about my country. If Milton were around today I am sure he would try to enlighten you although I am pretty sure it would be in vain. 555.

Chris P
05-18-21, 13:22
Thought I'd pop my head back in here, and literally laughing out loud within seconds seeing the leftwing whackjobs defending Carter and claiming the media is pro-Republican.

Canada, I salute your indefatigability in continuing to speak truth to these low-information lunatics: you truly have the patience of a saint and are a scholar and a gentleman.

PVMonger
05-18-21, 14:21
You are absolutely right. The media did everything possible to get Biden elected. Lie and more lies to get Biden elected Now that USA is in turmoil and Biden's is screwing daily the media is deathly silent. The media still has not fessed up to even one of Biden's main screwups and if Trump had done what Biden did in first hundred days it be anti Trump 24 hours a day.Blah blah blah Biden Blah blah blah sucks Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah All Blah blah blah Democrats Blah blah blah are Blah blah blah socialists Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah Everything Blah blah blah Democrats Blah blah blah do Blah blah blah is Blah blah blah bad Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah the Blah blah blah election Blah blah blah was Blah blah blah stolen Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah trump is God Blah blah blah trump was the best president ever, better than Washington and better than Lincoln Blah blah blah trump has never lied Blah blah blah.

Canada
05-18-21, 14:48
You clearly were the perfect dupe target for the mainstream media punditry that helped Reagan win that election. And re-election. Carter's record on average annual jobs creation is among the best of all time. Maybe second or third only to Clinton and JFK/LBJ. His record on it dwarfed that of Reagan. And, unlike Reagan, he didn't have to triple the National Debt to do it. His "recession" was one of the shortest and smallest of all time. And it was purposely induced by Fed Chairman Paul Volker by raising Fed Funds rates in order to (drum roll) cool down an overheated economy that was producing many more jobs than there were applicants to take them, triggering wage inflation. No matter, since hyper-inflation was already coming down steadily within 2-3 months of Volker initiating his fix on it.

By contrast, Reagan inherited from Carter a steadily declining unemployment rate in the low 7% range that continued to decline through Reagan's first year in office after a single month high during that purposely induced "recession" (that barely lasted more than 1 quarter in early 1980) of 7.8%, a steadily declining unemployment rate, one of the best jobs creation presidential terms in history (Carter), NO wars, a moderately manageable National Debt and Deficit, two back-to-back quarters while Carter was still president of 7.8% and 8.5% GDP Growth and proceeded to get his idiotic and always failed Supply-Side/Trickle-Down "Reaganomics" policies in place. Whereupon the country soon plunged into what was then the worst economic decline since The Great Republican Depression of the late 1920's/early 1930's. Reagan's Great Recession began at the beginning of 1982, his SECOND year in office and included ten consecutive months of 10%+ Unemployment Rate that extended well into his THIRD year in office.

Was hyper-inflation tamed under Reagan? Yep. But not due to anything he did. Well, unless you count one of the worst Great Republican Recessions in history as something Reagan's economic policies produced in order to bring down inflation that was already declining a year before he took office. It turns out when jobs are being eliminated by the millions, businesses are closing and wages are falling, the prices of housing, rent and automobiles might tend to decline a bit as well.

I know, I know. Despite the data that was easily available and reported on, mainstream media pundits kept telling you, "Carter ruined the economy and Reagan fixed it! Let's have MORE Republicans win elections so they can repeat Reagan's economic policies and results over and over and over again!" So it must be true, right? Except that isn't what Carter did or Reagan did by a long shot.

Did subsequent mainstream media-assisted Republican presidents repeat Reagan's policies and crap results? They sure did. Enter the more than a year long Recession under George H.W. Bush, both Recessions under George W. Bush including one really, really big one and Trump's Great Pandemic Recession that his Supply-Side/Trickle-Down Republican economic legislation did absolutely nothing to mitigate. Republican presidents can't seem to pass up any opportunity to Crash the U.S. economy and wipe out millions of U.S. jobs by any means necessary. They are always there to embrace whatever it takes to do that to the country.

Clinton didn't repeat those Reaganomics policies though. He and his Dems reversed them in 1993. Without a single vote from a Republican in Congress. No Recession. No Bear Market Crash. No massive jobs destruction. Just one of the longest economic expansions, jobs creation records and Bull Markets in history. Oh, and Obama didn't repeat them either. No Recession. No Bear Market Crash. No massive jobs destruction. Just another one of the longest economic expansions, jobs creation records and Bull Markets in history. Again, without a single vote for his American Recovery and Re-investment Act from a Republican in Congress. At least they're consistent.

The best endorsement for Biden's American Rescue Plan's success is that no Republicans in Congress voted for it.Why do you waste your time writing this nonsense. Even SNL knows Carter was worst president ever. Don't worry Biden has this title locked up already.

That just shows a democrat can change history. Carter is known as the worst president in history by both democrats and republicans and Reagan the best president ever and you change history.

Biden rescue plan destroys America. It is called a rescue plan because the next president is going to have to rescue USA from the destruction it created.

Biden plan to truck and rail oil instead of pipeline really worked well when one pipeline was hacked. Why is gas $7 a gallon on the east USA if you can just truck and rail oil to refineries. I guess you don't think this hurts the lower income families because this isn't inflation.

Biden is completely lost. He probably is the only one that would think your post had some merit.

Canada
05-18-21, 14:52
Real question is why do you spend all this effort posting drivel? Also, what is the source of your fear? Have you ever stopped to think about what motivates your fear of Biden, Harris or AOC?

Do you every look at your previous posts and regret your predictions. How 'bout pointing out for us just one of your predictions from six months ago that you believe was accurate.

FYI, Jimmy Carter is a great human being. He inherited a country in "stagflation". The double digit inflation was the result of OPEC successfully doubling oil prices in 1977-78. Did you ever wonder why the 52 American diplomatic hostages were only released minutes after Reagan was inaugurated? It's because Reagan made a secret deal with the mullahs not to release the hostages in exchange for American weapons. Carter had established a total arms embargo against Iran in 1979. Immediately after Reagan became President, he secretly and illegally rescinded that order and sold weapons to Khomeni. Remember "Arms for Hostages", which was revealed in 1986? Iran-Contra?

Jimmy Carter is everything that Trump is not. Carter was a US naval officer, a truly successful businessman, a long serving state senator, careful Govenor, and an honest, thoughtful, patriotic President. His entire post Presidency has been dedicated to selfless humanitarianism. He never grifted and never cheated. He is a patriot.

Canada, I believe you are an unfortunate victim of the right wing propaganda conspiracy machine. Turn off your teevee. Read actual history before you comment on it. Read about OPEC, read about the causes of inflation in the late 70's, read about Paul Volker, read about why, when and how Reagan sold arms to Khomeni. Turn off Fox for a month and read a book.You don't need to be democrat or republican to know the failure of Carter. High inflation and gas lines are not good for America. You and Biden are the only fools that believe this. Carter was a failure and Biden is following in his footsteps.

I feel sorry for you. You have no chance of success in life believing that crap.

Canada
05-18-21, 15:33
Yesterday Biden had a solution the for the Hamas Israel conflict. He is recommending a peaceful ceasefire. Biden is responsible for this conflict already with releasing money to Iran to sponsor these terrorists. Bide desperately wants agreement with Iran. Who else in the USA could have made such a profound statement. By the way Israel bombed Hamas again last night.

Golfinho
05-18-21, 16:17
Yesterday Biden had a solution for the Israeli ethnic cleansing. He is recommending a 'peaceful ceasefire'. Biden is responsible for this conflict already with releasing money and weaponry to the zionist state to sponsor these terrorists. Biden desperately wants agreement with the domestic zionist lobby. Who else in the USA could have made such a profound statement. By the way Israel drove more civilians from their homes in another ghetto liquidation again last night.There you go.

John Clayton
05-18-21, 16:35
You don't need to be democrat or republican to know the failure of Carter. High inflation and gas lines are not good for America. You and Biden are the only fools that believe this. Carter was a failure and Biden is following in his footsteps.

I feel sorry for you. You have no chance of success in life believing that crap.Turn off your teevee and read a book -- any book. Your next post should be a book report.

ChuchoLoco
05-18-21, 17:57
Real question is why do you spend all this effort posting drivel? Also, what is the source of your fear? Have you ever stopped to think about what motivates your fear of Biden, Harris or AOC?

Do you every look at your previous posts and regret your predictions. How 'bout pointing out for us just one of your predictions from six months ago that you believe was accurate.

FYI, Jimmy Carter is a great human being. He inherited a country in "stagflation". The double digit inflation was the result of OPEC successfully doubling oil prices in 1977-78. Did you ever wonder why the 52 American diplomatic hostages were only released minutes after Reagan was inaugurated? It's because Reagan made a secret deal with the mullahs not to release the hostages in exchange for American weapons. Carter had established a total arms embargo against Iran in 1979. Immediately after Reagan became President, he secretly and illegally rescinded that order and sold weapons to Khomeni. Remember "Arms for Hostages", which was revealed in 1986? Iran-Contra?

Jimmy Carter is everything that Trump is not. Carter was a US naval officer, a truly successful businessman, a long serving state senator, careful Govenor, and an honest, thoughtful, patriotic President. His entire post Presidency has been dedicated to selfless humanitarianism. He never grifted and never cheated. He is a patriot.

Canada, I believe you are an unfortunate victim of the right wing propaganda conspiracy machine. Turn off your teevee. Read actual history before you comment on it. Read about OPEC, read about the causes of inflation in the late 70's, read about Paul Volker, read about why, when and how Reagan sold arms to Khomeni. Turn off Fox for a month and read a book.Totally true John, excellent post. William Casey was conducting foreign policy illegally and made the deals with Iran before Reagan was sworn in We can go on about Reagan and Iran Contra which is a continuation of this deat but no need to now.

Jimmy is a great humanitarian and idealist. He was also very progressive. Too bad he never gets the credit that he deserves. Without a doubt the most honorable president in my 69 years. He just had too many Washington insiders from both parties working against him especially Teddy K.

Canada
05-18-21, 18:25
Totally true John, excellent post. William Casey was conducting foreign policy illegally and made the deals with Iran before Reagan was sworn in We can go on about Reagan and Iran Contra which is a continuation of this deat but no need to now.

Jimmy is a great humanitarian and idealist. He was also very progressive. Too bad he never gets the credit that he deserves. Without a doubt the most honorable president in my 69 years. He just had too many Washington insiders from both parties working against him especially Teddy K.Jimmy was a great humanitarian but a horrible president. That is a fact.

Canada
05-18-21, 18:27
Turn off your teevee and read a book -- any book. Your next post should be a book report.You guys are in La La land You can read your books that are as real as the Easter Bunmy.

John Clayton
05-18-21, 18:56
You guys are in La La land You can read your books that are as real as the Easter Bunmy.Name a book you have read in the last year.

Paulie97
05-18-21, 21:29
Blah blah blah Biden Blah blah blah sucks Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah All Blah blah blah Democrats Blah blah blah are Blah blah blah socialists Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah Everything Blah blah blah Democrats Blah blah blah do Blah blah blah is Blah blah blah bad Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah the Blah blah blah election Blah blah blah was Blah blah blah stolen Blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah trump is God Blah blah blah trump was the best president ever, better than Washington and better than Lincoln Blah blah blah trump has never lied Blah blah blah.Just more propaganda from "the corporate media," aka Fox Corporation / Rupert Murdock. Show me the conservative that is against Medicare, Social Security, and public education then we may be on the way to finding one that isn't a socialist. Until then the developed world will continue to operate as mixed economies. The question isn't whether to have socialism or not, it's how much and what sort. But that requires a discussion of a depth the typical monger sitting on a barstool phone in hand lacks the ability to do. Instead the same talking points are recited over and over. Do you have better things to do with your time than go in circles with such folks? I know I do. Hit them where it hurts. Beat them at polls.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Argument-by-Repetition

Canada
05-19-21, 00:19
Name a book you have read in the last year.Reading no books is better than reading fiction and fantasy books about things that are not real. I will bet that if you a read a book that said Carter was a good president for the country you got it from the writer himself because it would be the only copy out there. It is unbelievable that there are people like you in the USA.

Member #4698
05-19-21, 01:41
Suggested Reading or books I found very interesting during the pandemic:

"The Death Instinct" by Jacques Meserine.

"The Rum Diary" by Hunter S. Thompson.

"ZEROZEROZERO" by Roberto Saviano.

"A conflict of Visions" by Thomas Sowell.

"The Case for Trump" by Victor Davis Hanson.

The 1st two are just great reads. The 3rd one is a detailed nonfiction book on the history and evolution of the international narcotics industry. The last two are obviously political, but they are still very important books by serious, conservative thinkers.

PVMonger
05-19-21, 03:34
But conservatives say "That's just CNN propaganda. Fox News didn't report anything and trump didn't say anything, so it didn't really happen."

https://news.yahoo.com/arizona-auditors-backtrack-no-election-231038931.html

EihTooms
05-19-21, 10:20
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High inflation and gas lines are not good for America.
...Um...Yes, that's why Carter appointed the Fed Chairman he appointed to do what was necessary but politically risky to reduce hyper-inflation. And he knowingly did it heading into an election year (1980). The Republican presidents before him did not have the balls to do it. And most certainly the Republican president after him would not have. But Carter did.

Oh, and the Arab Oil Embargo along with the first and biggest gas lines that followed occurred in 1973. Carter was not president then. Wouldn't be for another 3-4 years. Someone from a different political party was. That's the easily searchable truth matter what the persistently pro-Republican election campaigning pundits in the mainstream media told you at the time and ever since.

Canada
05-19-21, 14:06
Um...Yes, that's why Carter appointed the Fed Chairman he appointed to do what was necessary but politically risky to reduce hyper-inflation. And he knowingly did it heading into an election year (1980). The Republican presidents before him did not have the balls to do it. And most certainly the Republican president after him would not have. But Carter did.

Oh, and the Arab Oil Embargo along with the first and biggest gas lines that followed occurred in 1973. Carter was not president then. Wouldn't be for another 3-4 years. Someone from a different political party was. That's the easily searchable truth matter what the persistently pro-Republican election campaigning pundits in the mainstream media told you at the time and ever since.There is nothing you can write than can change history. The whole USA population knows what Carter did. Writing something on this forum does not change history. Just because you don't like the history you can't cancel it.

Canada
05-19-21, 14:14
Biden supports Iran.

Iran supports Hamas.

Biden supports BLM.

BLM supports Hamas.

It took Trump 4 years to get peace agreements in Middle East.

It took Biden 4 months to get a war going in middle East. Biden support of Iran and his weak foreign policy has already shaken up the Middle East.

Are the democrats ok with this? Is this the path for the future of USA supporting Terrorists.

Golfinho
05-19-21, 15:53
Biden supports Isreal

Isreal uses the USA.

Biden supports BLM.

BLM is a proxy warrior.

Trump for 4 years did everything Isreal wanted in Middle East.

It took Biden 4 months and Isreal continues to liquidate the Gaza ghetto. Biden support of Isreal and his weak foreign policy has already advanced the zionist agenda.

The democrats ok with this. This is the path for the future of USA supporting zionist terrorists. There you go.

Member #4698
05-19-21, 16:35
There you go.I know you misquoted Canada in jest and to make your point, but it is not cool. If you disagree with someone, fine, criticize whomever all you want, but leave their words alone.

Sojourner
05-19-21, 20:18
No I think it is possible to counterfeit anything these days including currency. I don't think everyone hired to count ballots by the democrats was capable of distinguishing if a ballot was real or fake. In many cases they didn't even verify signatures so I along with millions believe that if you really want to cheat in any election it is possible.First, you are trying to change the subject. You started with a thoroughly dishonest post which took lines from a USA today fact-check to leave people with the exact opposite of what they concluded. You were called on it. Did you man up?

In addition we found that in fact the problem was almost certainly the inability of some conservatives to read a chart. So I pointed out that the actual facts are that there is no issue here the number of ballots sent out far exceeded the number returned for the General Election. Again you side-step to something now saying well 'I think... ' and basically suggest that so long as you can harbor a suspicion without evidence against people you disagree with, it is okay to deprive others of their right to vote. This is a ridiculous standard and one which carries an implicit notion that the suspicions of conservatives are somehow valid without evidence while centuries of legitimate black concerns based on mountains of evidence continue to be denied by those same people. A just society requires openness and evidence-based responses. You offer self-indulgent tyranny.

Yes anything can be faked. But the question is, if we know that money can be counterfeited, why don't we demand that people show ID in order to use cash? Shouldn't we be recording and tracking everyone who spends a dollar at the grocery store? I look forward to your understanding of why not.

The Constitutional right to vote is a right of citizens. It is not a function of whether or not he or she has registered with the state department of transportation. How can a real American suggest that such a breach requires no proof of legitimate concern? The Brennan Center for Justice at NYU studies voting and declares that the number of illegitimate mail-in votes is in the area of "000001 percent of all votes cast." While estimates are that those prevented from voting will be closer to .5 or 1%. The plans are literally keeping thousands of people from legitimately voting to prevent one illegitimate vote. That is not rational unless your actual motive is anti-democratic and unconstitutional.

Canada
05-19-21, 21:54
First, you are trying to change the subject. You started with a thoroughly dishonest post which took lines from a USA today fact-check to leave people with the exact opposite of what they concluded. You were called on it. Did you man up?

In addition we found that in fact the problem was almost certainly the inability of some conservatives to read a chart. So I pointed out that the actual facts are that there is no issue here the number of ballots sent out far exceeded the number returned for the General Election. Again you side-step to something now saying well 'I think... ' and basically suggest that so long as you can harbor a suspicion without evidence against people you disagree with, it is okay to deprive others of their right to vote. This is a ridiculous standard and one which carries an implicit notion that the suspicions of conservatives are somehow valid without evidence while centuries of legitimate black concerns based on mountains of evidence continue to be denied by those same people. A just society requires openness and evidence-based responses. You offer self-indulgent tyranny.

Yes anything can be faked. But the question is, if we know that money can be counterfeited, why don't we demand that people show ID in order to use cash? Shouldn't we be recording and tracking everyone who spends a dollar at the grocery store? I look forward to your understanding of why not.

The Constitutional right to vote is a right of citizens. It is not a function of whether or not he or she has registered with the state department of transportation. How can a real American suggest that such a breach requires no proof of legitimate concern? The Brennan Center for Justice at NYU studies voting and declares that the number of illegitimate mail-in votes is in the area of "000001 percent of all votes cast." While estimates are that those prevented from voting will be closer to .5 or 1%. The plans are literally keeping thousands of people from legitimately voting to prevent one illegitimate vote. That is not rational unless your actual motive is anti-democratic and unconstitutional.The problem wasn't that the Republicans couldn't read the chart. The problem was that the republicans could read the chart and it showed that there was possible fraud so the chart was removed immediately. Why do you think the chart was removed. Yes you are right. It showed possible fraud.

Canada
05-19-21, 21:56
Biden removed sanctions and approved pipeline from Russia to Germany today. Shows that Biden cares more about Russia energy than USA energy. No backlash at all from the media or environmental wackos. Amazing!

The Cane
05-19-21, 22:05
Biden removed sanctions and approved pipeline from Russia to Germany today. Shows that Biden cares more about Russia energy than USA energy. No backlash at all from the media or environmental wackos. Amazing!You have a lot of nerve talking about somebody going easy on Russia. This is but one (but egregious) example:

https://youtu.be/wBwgxHnlhqo

EihTooms
05-20-21, 00:56
There is nothing you can write than can change history. The whole USA population knows what Carter did. Writing something on this forum does not change history. Just because you don't like the history you can't cancel it.I agree with this except for the "whole population" knowing something part of it.

Oh, and Carter was not president in 1973. He really had nothing to do with the Arab Oil Embargo and the gas lines that embargo triggered no matter how much pro-Republican election victory mainstream media pundits have tried to fool you into believing such a thing.

Gas lines did return briefly in 1979 due to issues with the brutal Shah regime that (R)President Eisenhower overthrew democratic elections in Iran to install, giving rise to a 25 year Islamic Revolution and the takeover in power of the Ayatollahs we are still dealing with today, came crashing to a close. But not as much as previously.

Sojourner
05-20-21, 01:22
... The problem was that the republicans could read the chart and it showed that there was possible fraud so the chart was removed immediately....Really? Do you have evidence or do you believe your delusions? The USA Today article you cited says the data was still on the site.

I asked several questions in my last letter, and you side-stepped them all. Can you man-up and admit your USA Today post was a lie?

You said money is counterfeited, please explain why we don't make people give ID in order to use cash to clarify you analogy.

How does it make sense to deprive millions of people of their constitutional right with no evidence of a problem?

What kind of person violate the constitutional rights of 10,000 citizens for every illegal vote they prevent?

Some folks just blow angry smoke around here, but I'm sure you can help me understand your perspective on these issues or clarify where you were mistaken right Canada?

Canada
05-20-21, 03:22
Really? Do you have evidence or do you believe your delusions? The USA Today article you cited says the data was still on the site.

I asked several questions in my last letter, and you side-stepped them all. Can you man-up and admit your USA Today post was a lie?

You said money is counterfeited, please explain why we don't make people give ID in order to use cash to clarify you analogy.

How does it make sense to deprive millions of people of their constitutional right with no evidence of a problem?

What kind of person violate the constitutional rights of 10,000 citizens for every illegal vote they prevent?

Some folks just blow angry smoke around here, but I'm sure you can help me understand your perspective on these issues or clarify where you were mistaken right Canada?The issue is they posted a chart showing receiving 1,100,000 more ballots than they sent out. The chart was deleted and an excuse was made of why they pulled it. Maybe it was a mistake or maybe it want but no one got a chance to verify it before it was deleted. It does not deprive their constitutional rights if they are not registered to vote. What do you have against honest elections and both sides being able to verify the results?

Canada
05-20-21, 03:24
You have a lot of nerve talking about somebody going easy on Russia. This is but one (but egregious) example:

https://youtu.be/wBwgxHnlhqoIf Biden helps Russia it is ok but if a republican president helps Russia it is criminal? Is that what you are saying?

Xpartan
05-20-21, 04:08
Biden removed sanctions and approved pipeline from Russia to Germany today. Shows that Biden cares more about Russia energy than USA energy. No backlash at all from the media or environmental wackos. Amazing!Amazing! (Not).

The Cane
05-20-21, 10:49
If Biden helps Russia it is ok but if a republican president helps Russia it is criminal? Is that what you are saying?No, that's not what I'm saying. But, it's you who is saying something similar, and then trying to twist it around and project that onto me. That it's OK if Trump helped Russia, but it's criminal if Biden does. That's in effect what you are saying. And by the way, I don't agree that Biden has done what you say he has (helped Russia). No, I'm with Xpartan here. Truly amazing capacity with the mistruths and disinformation!

Canada
05-20-21, 13:43
Amazing! (Not).Why do you assume someone is lying with Biden. It is on every news in the world except liberal media in USA which protects and covers up anything Biden does. If Trump did this liberals would be crying impeachment. Do you even have a clue how bad Biden is?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-lifts-us-sanctions-on-major-russian-pipeline/ar-AAKaRHA

D Cups
05-20-21, 16:18
Why do you assume someone is lying with Biden. It is on every news in the world except liberal media in USA which protects and covers up anything Biden does. If Trump did this liberals would be crying impeachment. Do you even have a clue how bad Biden is?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-lifts-us-sanctions-on-major-russian-pipeline/ar-AAKaRHAYou are correct, Canada. The democrats in this forum represent the dumbing down of the USA. I say this as a former business owner and former business (full) professor with a doctoral degree and 50 years of work experience while woefully watching the steady decline of the American dream, empire and its former values. I can't wait to get the fuck out of the USA: rising costs and rampant crime; me too feminazis; BLM bullshit; ad infinitum. I've got a sweet, young, super sexy, intelligent, gorgeous, Filipina waiting for me over there to spend my golden years with. And I'll be laughing at you democrats wallowing in the fucking mess you created.

John Clayton
05-20-21, 16:53
Why do you assume someone is lying with Biden. It is on every news in the world except liberal media in USA which protects and covers up anything Biden does. If Trump did this liberals would be crying impeachment. Do you even have a clue how bad Biden is?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-lifts-us-sanctions-on-major-russian-pipeline/ar-AAKaRHAThe WSJ has been all over this. Yes, Nordstream II is a mystery to many. My guess is that Biden is relying on opposition from the (rising) German Green Party to scuttle it; thereby achieving his ends (preserving Ukrainian revenues), while getting some brownie points or something with Putin. However, the primary difference is that no one believes Biden is Putin's minion.

Canada
05-20-21, 19:35
The WSJ has been all over this. Yes, Nordstream II is a mystery to many. My guess is that Biden is relying on opposition from the (rising) German Green Party to scuttle it; thereby achieving his ends (preserving Ukrainian revenues), while getting some brownie points or something with Putin. However, the primary difference is that no one believes Biden is Putin's minion.Not only is Biden Putin Minion but the minion for several other leaders. Weak foreign policy is the death of USA. Why aren't the environmentalist in USA not speaking out. This pipeline is underwater and the socialists here not a word. This boasts Russia economy and provides jobs for thousands of workers. It is ok for the rest of the world but not in Biden USA. I am sure there will be a couple posts on here that I made this up. Why is Biden killing our jobs and creating jobs in Russia. Can you imagine if Trump had done this? The backlash and hatred.

Vagabundo1
05-20-21, 19:38
Biden is xi's minion too, eh.


Not only is Biden Putin Minion but the minion for several other leaders. Weak foreign policy is the death of USA. Why aren't the environmentalist in USA not speaking out. This pipeline is underwater and the socialists here not a word. This boasts Russia economy and provides jobs for thousands of workers. It is ok for the rest of the world but not in Biden USA. I am sure there will be a couple posts on here that I made this up. Why is Biden killing our jobs and creating jobs in Russia. Can you imagine if Trump had done this? The backlash and hatred.

Canada
05-20-21, 19:42
No, that's not what I'm saying. But, it's you who is saying something similar, and then trying to twist it around and project that onto me. That it's OK if Trump helped Russia, but it's criminal if Biden does. That's in effect what you are saying. And by the way, I don't agree that Biden has done what you say he has (helped Russia). No, I'm with Xpartan here. Truly amazing capacity with the mistruths and disinformation!Whenever Biden screws up and someone points it out you socialists can't accept the truth. Denying it happened doesn't cancel history. Biden did it to help Russia boost Russia economy and create thousands of jobs for Russians. But he cancelled the USA pipelines and killed thousands of jobs in USA. But you won't condemn it. You will only deny it happened. You can't cancel history and you can't hide all Biden screwups forever. There is no twisting this around. It is on every international news site. But if you watch CNN or MSNBC they will be like you and pretend it never happened.

Xpartan
05-20-21, 19:46
Why do you assume someone is lying with Biden. It is on every news in the world except liberal media in USA which protects and covers up anything Biden does. If Trump did this liberals would be crying impeachment. Do you even have a clue how bad Biden is?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-lifts-us-sanctions-on-major-russian-pipeline/ar-AAKaRHAShow me one reputable "world news" outlet that confirms that Biden "approved pipeline from Russia to Germany. " That's your exact words in case you forgot.

And that's a lie.

Xpartan
05-20-21, 19:57
The WSJ has been all over this. Yes, Nordstream II is a mystery to many. My guess is that Biden is relying on opposition from the (rising) German Green Party to scuttle it; thereby achieving his ends (preserving Ukrainian revenues), while getting some brownie points or something with Putin. However, the primary difference is that no one believes Biden is Putin's minion.Blinden said clearly that our opposition to to Nord Stream has not diminished. But it's nothing but silly to keep the sanctions up and annoy our European allies when the 90% of work is already done. It's pointless not unlike our sanctions on Cuba. Smart politicians choose their battles carefully and avoid those they can't win.

Now, Canada calling Biden "Putin's minion" is priceless after everything that his idol had done for his BFF Vlad.

John Clayton
05-20-21, 19:58
Whenever Biden screws up and someone points it out you socialists can't accept the truth. Denying it happened doesn't cancel history. Biden did it to help Russia boost Russia economy and create thousands of jobs for Russians. But he cancelled the USA pipelines and killed thousands of jobs in USA. But you won't condemn it. You will only deny it happened. You can't cancel history and you can't hide all Biden screwups forever. There is no twisting this around. It is on every international news site. But if you watch CNN or MSNBC they will be like you and pretend it never happened.Before you post again to this forum:

1) Point out an accurate prediction you've made over the last year.

2) Name a book that you have read.

Canada
05-20-21, 20:10
Before you post again to this forum:

1) Point out an accurate prediction you've made over the last year.

2) Name a book that you have read.My accurate prediction was that Biden would reverse Trump policies that would be detrimental to USA citizens within his first 100 days. Unfortunately he did it in first 2 weeks.

Cancelled Trump border policies. Result was worst crises at the border since Obama days.

Cancelled XL Pipeline and cancelled drilling permits on federal leases and imposed regulations on oil companies. Result gas increasing 60% to 300% severely hurting the lower income families.

Killed several thousand high paying jobs in USA.

Weak foreign policy. Result war in Israel. New pipeline and better economy for Russia.

How many of Biden screwups do you want on my totally accurate prediction?

Or are you going to pretend none of this happened.

The Cane
05-20-21, 20:13
Whenever Biden screws up and someone points it out you socialists can't accept the truth. Denying it happened doesn't cancel history. Biden did it to help Russia boost Russia economy and create thousands of jobs for Russians. But he cancelled the USA pipelines and killed thousands of jobs in USA. But you won't condemn it. You will only deny it happened. You can't cancel history and you can't hide all Biden screwups forever. There is no twisting this around. It is on every international news site. But if you watch CNN or MSNBC they will be like you and pretend it never happened.That's right! Deny it all you want to. But there is no canceling what happened, and who is responsible. Yes sir indeed!

Canada
05-20-21, 20:32
Blinden said clearly that our opposition to to Nord Stream has not diminished. But it's nothing but silly to keep the sanctions up and annoy our European allies when the 90% of work is already done. It's pointless not unlike our sanctions on Cuba. Smart politicians choose their battles carefully and avoid those they can't win.

Now, Canada calling Biden "Putin's minion" is priceless after everything that his idol had done for his BFF Vlad.It is what it is. Biden proved he is Putin's minion with his actions.

XL Pipeline was further advanced than the Russia pipeline. Pipe had already been purchased. Dirt work had started and some of the lateral pipelines were already installed when Biden cancelled it hurting the states like Montana, S. Dakota, Nebraska, Oklahoma for jobs and taxes but helping Biden buddy Warren Buffet since all the oil now will have to be transported by rail and truck. Proves Biden helps his buddies. Buffit and Putin.

Why did you lie about the pipeline was 90% completed? That is a total lie.

Canada
05-20-21, 21:52
That's right! Deny it all you want to. But there is no canceling what happened, and who is responsible. Yes sir indeed!I agree totally. I am not denying that Biden screwed up Trump successes. Biden in 4 months has put America back 4 years. We get to look forward 3 1/2 more years of high gas prices and inflation and higher taxes. Good news is that the socialists and the democrats are fighting amongst themselves now. Socialists are demanding democrats support terrorist groups like Hamas. Will be interesting to see Biden squirm through this.

Xpartan
05-21-21, 02:32
It is what it is. Biden proved he is Putin's minion with his actions.

XL Pipeline was further advanced than the Russia pipeline. Pipe had already been purchased. Dirt work had started and some of the lateral pipelines were already installed when Biden cancelled it hurting the states like Montana, S. Dakota, Nebraska, Oklahoma for jobs and taxes but helping Biden buddy Warren Buffet since all the oil now will have to be transported by rail and truck. Proves Biden helps his buddies. Buffit and Putin.

Why did you lie about the pipeline was 90% completed? That is a total lie.Is it? Here is my source. What is yours?


A U.S. official conceded that stopping the project would be difficult but that Washington would keep trying. "We inherited a pipeline that was over 90% complete and so stopping it has always been a long shot," the State Department official said.https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/us-waive-sanctions-firm-ceo-behind-russias-nord-stream-2-pipeline-source-2021-05-19

Now you've said that Biden "approved pipeline from Russia to Germany. ".

You've also accused me of lying.

Go ahead, show me yours.

EihTooms
05-21-21, 03:10
This report includes several charts and graphs showing the extraordinarily poor performance of Trump's economic "stewardship" across the board all throughout his four years in office. The Jobs Growth by Presidential Term graph is a particularly interesting one, showing how poorly Republican presidential jobs growth is compared to Democratic presidents. Note how many jobs were created under Carter in just 4 years compared to any other president both Dem and Repub serving 6-8 years, especially Reagan.

Too bad they had to lay so many of George W. Bush's plunging jobs numbers at Obama's feet since he took over just as the Niagara Falls of those Republican policy job losses were cresting and crashing onto the rocks below. Otherwise, Obama's jobs creation numbers would have dwarfed those of the best Repub numbers for Reagan too. Mind you, Reagan's years in office benefited from virtually every Baby Boomer (age 16 to 35 when Reagan took office) fully participating in the workforce while those same Baby Boomers were retiring with Social Security at a rate of 10,000 per day when Obama took office.

Imo, they cut Trump too much slack in this report by not emphasizing enough the Trump economic decisions as early as 2018 and certainly in full force in early 2020 that turned a manageable (by a better USA President) endemic in the Wuhan area of China into a deadly worldwide economy-destroying Pandemic.

Then again, that is what mainstream media punditry typically does in order to help Republicans look like viable if not preferable candidates for future elections. Another recent example being the way they characterized the 266,000 or so jobs created in April under a Dem as "dismal" while they and Trump would have been crowing about such a monthly jobs creation number for a year as one of the "greatest of all time!" even prior to Trump's Pandemic crash. lol

Trump will have the worst jobs record in modern U.S. history. Its not just the pandemic.
January 8, 2021.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/01/08/trump-jobs-record/

President Trump took office at the crest of the longest economic expansion in U.S. history. He leaves presiding over the worst labor market in modern U.S. history, as an already-sputtering economic recovery has turned negative.

Fridays awful jobs report from the Labor Department showed there were still 3 million fewer jobs in the United States than there were on Inauguration Day 2017, when Trump stood in front of the Capitol and vowed to reverse the American carnage.

GDreams
05-21-21, 04:26
I agree totally. I am not denying that Biden screwed up Trump successes. Biden in 4 months has put America back 4 years. We get to look forward 3 1/2 more years of high gas prices and inflation and higher taxes. Good news is that the socialists and the democrats are fighting amongst themselves now. Socialists are demanding democrats support terrorist groups like Hamas. Will be interesting to see Biden squirm through this.If only we could go back 4 years and just erase Trumps diabolical performance. Strong jobs growth for 7 straight years, 11% down to 5%. Consistent economic growth while fixing the economic collapse Bush created. Getting the annual deficit down to 400 b unlike Trump who blew it out to $1 t whilst achieving the same growth and jobs creation as Obama, no pointless trade wars that achieved nothing but increased costs to consumers and massive socialist bailouts to farmers, minimal corruption unlike Trump with more cronies going to jail and being investigated since Nixon, better law and order, no fake border crisis, no alienating all our allies and schmoozing dictators, no playing golf for half the presidency, no supporting domestic terrorist, having stable government without weekly firing of people over twitter and no 100 lies a day to try and process.

Sojourner
05-21-21, 08:46
The issue is they posted a chart showing receiving 1,100,000 more ballots than they sent out. The chart was deleted and an excuse was made of why they pulled it. Maybe it was a mistake or maybe it want but no one got a chance to verify it before it was deleted. It does not deprive their constitutional rights if they are not registered to vote. What do you have against honest elections and both sides being able to verify the results?Your discussion is a wonderful example of the Trump character. You make a dishonest post that tries to claim USA Today is agreeing with you when they absolutely do not. You are called on it and the facts are there for all to see. But despite several requests you edont have the balls to acknowledge what we all can see- that you were full of crap. In front of everyone, you choose your wishful delusion over an obvious truth when we all can see the difference. I guess I should not be surprised you can't admit your favorite sociopath got his but kicked in the election.

I previously asked you to provide evidence that something was taken down as that contradicts the article you cited but clearly didn't understand. You have no proof, but continue to make things up.

Fundamentally you set out to prove a point with an article that proved you were wrong. Continuing to dodge the issues and make things up after you've lost may not make you look as tough or smart as you think. Doesn't seem like a great use of your time or mine.

Chris P
05-21-21, 09:33
Show me one reputable "world news" outlet that confirms that Biden "approved pipeline from Russia to Germany."Reputable". LOL. You mean "leftist fake news".

The USA has vast influence in Germany. They literally occupy the country, and have been protecting them from Russia for 70 years. Trump used that leverage, and sanctions, to pressure the Europeans to block the Russia pipeline, which would have meant they would have bought American natural gas instead. (he also used it to make them pay their fair and agreed share into NATO, and much else which benefited America).

Now we have returned to the status quo of American weakness, and Biden's handlers have not only destroyed the Keystone pipeline, they have removed the pressure and sanctions and allowed the Russia-Germany pipeline to go ahead. This will again cost American jobs. The gas that would have been supplied to Europe from America but now will come from Russia. As well as obviously hugely strengthening Russia's position economically and its leverage over Europe.

Imagine if Trump had done that. Imagine the hysterical fake news media shrieking about how he was empowering Russia, he was Putin's stooge, etc, etc. In reality, Trump was standing up against Russia, and Biden's handlers have caved in to them. What do we hear from the fake news media?

Why, it's almost as if the democrats want to destroy America!

Chris P
05-21-21, 10:06
You are correct, Canada. The democrats in this forum represent the dumbing down of the USA. I say this as a former business owner and former business (full) professor with a doctoral degree and 50 years of work experience while woefully watching the steady decline of the American dream, empire and its former values. I can't wait to get the fuck out of the USA: rising costs and rampant crime; me too feminazis; BLM bullshit; ad infinitum. I've got a sweet, young, super sexy, intelligent, gorgeous, Filipina waiting for me over there to spend my golden years with. And I'll be laughing at you democrats wallowing in the fucking mess you created.Amen. The Philippines is going the opposite way to the USA: it now has leadership who enforce the rule of law and severely punish violent criminals. Compare that to America with violent BLM felons openly cheered on the by the fraudulent Vice-President Kamala "Heels-Up" Harris, a nonentity born of foreign parents who grew up in a foreign country, and was a low-level, undistinguished municipal prosecutor until the age of 30 when she began an affair with Willie Brown, the married mayor of San Francisco 30 years her senior, who then purely by coincidence gave her two big political promotions for which she was unqualified. Yes, she literally fucked her way to the top.

The situation of the McCloskeys is indicative of the future in America, at least in democrat-run cities. A mob of antifa / BLM broke through their gate, trespassed onto the McCloskeys' property and began shouting threats to them about stealing their home, burning it down, killing them etc. In response, the McCloskeys got their legally-held firearms to protect themselves and dissuade the rioters from making good on their threats.

The district attorney of this democrat-run city is a far-left anti-white black woman who was elected thanks to heavy funding from George Soros and support from leftist fake news media. She ignored the various crimes committed by the mob, and instead had the McCloskeys indicted and their legally-held weapons confiscated in violation of the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.

Ditto for the MeToo bullshit. I'm no fan of Harvey Weinstein but the precedent set in his case is truly shocking. He was convicted of "r_ping" a woman who accepted that she was his legitimate girlfriend both before and after the alleged act, backed up by emails and texts she sent before and after begging to see him, and never referencing the so-called crime. Then, many years later, she decides that in between all of the many occasions in which they had consensual sex, she was "r_ped". No physical evidence, no evidence from any messages she sent at the time, and yet the guy is guilty. Despite having the best lawyers money can buy! So what the hell chance do the rest of us have?

That means that any woman in the US can now claim that any guy she ever had sex with, going back years or decades (or even spent any time with, because no physical proof of sex is even needed) "r_ped" her, and she doesn't need any evidence whatsoever other than her own testimony. The precedent is set. Of course we all know how nasty, crazy and vengeful women can be (hell hath no fury) and many are now using this crap as yet another weapon against men.

None of that crap in the Philippines. You're making a good choice, and I hope to join you one day!

Canada
05-21-21, 14:09
This report includes several charts and graphs showing the extraordinarily poor performance of Trump's economic "stewardship" across the board all throughout his four years in office. The Jobs Growth by Presidential Term graph is a particularly interesting one, showing how poorly Republican presidential jobs growth is compared to Democratic presidents. Note how many jobs were created under Carter in just 4 years compared to any other president both Dem and Repub serving 6-8 years, especially Reagan.

Too bad they had to lay so many of George W. Bush's plunging jobs numbers at Obama's feet since he took over just as the Niagara Falls of those Republican policy job losses were cresting and crashing onto the rocks below. Otherwise, Obama's jobs creation numbers would have dwarfed those of the best Repub numbers for Reagan too. Mind you, Reagan's years in office benefited from virtually every Baby Boomer (age 16 to 35 when Reagan took office) fully participating in the workforce while those same Baby Boomers were retiring with Social Security at a rate of 10,000 per day when Obama took office.

Imo, they cut Trump too much slack in this report by not emphasizing enough the Trump economic decisions as early as 2018 and certainly in full force in early 2020 that turned a manageable (by a better USA President) endemic in the Wuhan area of China into a deadly worldwide economy-destroying Pandemic.

Then again, that is what mainstream media punditry typically does in order to help Republicans look like viable if not preferable candidates for future elections. Another recent example being the way they characterized the 266,000 or so jobs created in April under a Dem as "dismal" while they and Trump would have been crowing about such a monthly jobs creation number for a year as one of the "greatest of all time!" even prior to Trump's Pandemic crash. lol

Trump will have the worst jobs record in modern U.S. history. Its not just the pandemic.
January 8, 2021.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/01/08/trump-jobs-record/This post proves you can't fix stupid!

GDreams
05-21-21, 14:45
This post proves you can't fix stupid!In the face of overwhelming evidence Canada admits that nothing is going to fix his stupidity!

GDreams
05-21-21, 17:53
"Reputable". LOL. You mean "leftist fake news".

The USA has vast influence in Germany. They literally occupy the country, and have been protecting them from Russia for 70 years. Trump used that leverage, and sanctions, to pressure the Europeans to block the Russia pipeline, which would have meant they would have bought American natural gas instead. (he also used it to make them pay their fair and agreed share into NATO, and much else which benefited America).

Now we have returned to the status quo of American weakness, and Biden's handlers have not only destroyed the Keystone pipeline, they have removed the pressure and sanctions and allowed the Russia-Germany pipeline to go ahead. This will again cost American jobs. The gas that would have been supplied to Europe from America but now will come from Russia. As well as obviously hugely strengthening Russia's position economically and its leverage over Europe.

Imagine if Trump had done that. Imagine the hysterical fake news media shrieking about how he was empowering Russia, he was Putin's stooge, etc, etc. In reality, Trump was standing up against Russia, and Biden's handlers have caved in to them. What do we hear from the fake news media?

Why, it's almost as if the democrats want to destroy America!LOL. Biden just took over the presidency. The pipeline is almost complete! You think that was done in 3 months? Nope they had 4 years ignoring Trumps sanctions and non influence. No they were not going to buy US gas when Qatari gas is much cheaper. Qatar is increasing output 50%. Basically all new US gas terminals are on hold because they can't secure the contracts to raise finance.

What has the keystone pipeline got to do with anything? The US isn't paying any more for the oil, the Canadians need to deliver at a competitive price. The objective is that the oil won't be needed at all in 10 years as electric vehicles take over the roads.

The reality is it would have been good if Trump succeeded to cancel Nord stream 2 unfortunately he was grossly incompetent. Anything that provides sustenance and support for Russia is a bad thing. Russian girls need to be kept poor so I can satisfy my infatuation with dyevushkas.

Questner
05-22-21, 02:54
https://www.nord-stream2.com/

Today: https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/financial-sanctions/recent-actions/20210521.

Please educate yourselves with respect to above private project.

EihTooms
05-22-21, 04:01
This post proves you can't fix stupid!So right. It is astonishing that anyone who wants the USA Economy to do well would vote for a Republican at any level after Reagan's first presidential term, much less for president.

Not only is the accurate historical record of results for creating USA Jobs crap under Repub presidents compared to Dem presidents, stock market gains border control, paying down the deficit, even crime rate declines have strongly favored Dem presidents over Repub presidents since records for such things have been kept.

Yet, we now have incredibly stupid people storming the Capitol Building, attacking cops, searching out elected officials to shoot and lynch, brandishing and mounting traitorous flags there for the first time in American history, killing, stealing, vandalizing and attempting a violent overthrow of American democracy just so we can have "4 More Years!" of the worst economic "stewardship" and results of all time.

Yes, it probably can't be fixed anytime soon.

Chris P
05-22-21, 10:48
LOL. Biden just took over the presidency. The pipeline is almost complete! You think that was done in 3 months? Nope they had 4 years ignoring Trumps sanctions and non influence. No they were not going to buy US gas when Qatari gas is much cheaper. Qatar is increasing output 50%. Basically all new US gas terminals are on hold because they can't secure the contracts to raise finance.

What has the keystone pipeline got to do with anything? The US isn't paying any more for the oil, the Canadians need to deliver at a competitive price. The objective is that the oil won't be needed at all in 10 years as electric vehicles take over the roads.

The reality is it would have been good if Trump succeeded to cancel Nord stream 2 unfortunately he was grossly incompetent. Anything that provides sustenance and support for Russia is a bad thing. Russian girls need to be kept poor so I can satisfy my infatuation with dyevushkas.https://fortune.com/2020/09/08/trump-pipeline-russia-germany-natural-gas-merkel-navalny-poisoned-nord-stream-2/

"there is growing pressure on German Chancellor Angela Merkel to kill the $11 billion scheme. If Merkel does reverse her long-standing support for Nord Stream 2, as she has for the first time hinted she might do, the beneficiary would likely be the USA."

If the election had not been stolen and Trump was still in office, the pipeline would have been cancelled. Unfortunately, former Vice-President Biden's handlers have returned to the era of American weakness.

As for "electric vehicles", LOL, where do you think that electricity comes from? Windmills? Good luck with that.

We can at least agree on Russian girls.

D Cups
05-22-21, 12:56
Amen. The Philippines is going the opposite way to the USA: it now has leadership who enforce the rule of law and severely punish violent criminals. Compare that to America with violent BLM felons openly cheered on the by the fraudulent Vice-President Kamala "Heels-Up" Harris, a nonentity born of foreign parents who grew up in a foreign country, and was a low-level, undistinguished municipal prosecutor until the age of 30 when she began an affair with Willie Brown, the married mayor of San Francisco 30 years her senior, who then purely by coincidence gave her two big political promotions for which she was unqualified. Yes, she literally fucked her way to the top.

The situation of the McCloskeys is indicative of the future in America, at least in democrat-run cities. A mob of antifa / BLM broke through their gate, trespassed onto the McCloskeys' property and began shouting threats to them about stealing their home, burning it down, killing them etc. In response, the McCloskeys got their legally-held firearms to protect themselves and dissuade the rioters from making good on their threats.

The district attorney of this democrat-run city is a far-left anti-white black woman who was elected thanks to heavy funding from George Soros and support from leftist fake news media. She ignored the various crimes committed by the mob, and instead had the McCloskeys indicted and their legally-held weapons confiscated in violation of the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.Thanks, Cris P. There is plenty of room for you over there!

GDreams
05-22-21, 16:20
https://fortune.com/2020/09/08/trump-pipeline-russia-germany-natural-gas-merkel-navalny-poisoned-nord-stream-2/

"there is growing pressure on German Chancellor Angela Merkel to kill the $11 billion scheme. If Merkel does reverse her long-standing support for Nord Stream 2, as she has for the first time hinted she might do, the beneficiary would likely be the USA."

If the election had not been stolen and Trump was still in office, the pipeline would have been cancelled. Unfortunately, former Vice-President Biden's handlers have returned to the era of American weakness.

As for "electric vehicles", LOL, where do you think that electricity comes from? Windmills? Good luck with that.

We can at least agree on Russian girls.There has been no credible evidence that the election was stolen. Not one piece of evidence was submitted to courts to support all the wild accusations. There is a specific reason for this. If you present unsubstantiated rumours to a court you can be financially sanctioned and have your license to practice law revoked. All these claims have just been a big scam to raise money for legal fights from all Trumps gullible supporters.

Trump had zero success in stopping Nord stream 2. His sanctions were ignored, his tweets were ignored, he had no leverage and everyone concerned knew that his group of 'z' list administrators had no competence to achieve anything. Pompeo, Navarro, Kudrow, Mnuchin, Kushner, what a joke!

Take a look at the new F150 and you will start to understand the future. It can charge from the home electrical supply and also discharge into it giving the capacity to power a home for 3 -5 days. When the majority of vehicles become electrically powered the batteries will become a huge grid storage able to soak up power during excess supply and feed it in during peak demand making it much easier to manage intermittent supplies from solar and wind turbines.

D Cups
05-22-21, 20:03
There has been no credible evidence that the election was stolen. Not one piece of evidence was submitted to courts to support all the wild accusations. There is a specific reason for this. If you present unsubstantiated rumours to a court you can be financially sanctioned and have your license to practice law revoked. All these claims have just been a big scam to raise money for legal fights from all Trumps gullible supporters.

Trump had zero success in stopping Nord stream 2. His sanctions were ignored, his tweets were ignored, he had no leverage and everyone concerned knew that his group of 'z' list administrators had no competence to achieve anything. Pompeo, Navarro, Kudrow, Mnuchin, Kushner, what a joke!

Take a look at the new F150 and you will start to understand the future. It can charge from the home electrical supply and also discharge into it giving the capacity to power a home for 3 -5 days. When the majority of vehicles become electrically powered the batteries will become a huge grid storage able to soak up power during excess supply and feed it in during peak demand making it much easier to manage intermittent supplies from solar and wind turbines.Keep dreaming.

Canada
05-22-21, 21:03
So right. It is astonishing that anyone who wants the USA Economy to do well would vote for a Republican at any level after Reagan's first presidential term, much less for president.

Not only is the accurate historical record of results for creating USA Jobs crap under Repub presidents compared to Dem presidents, stock market gains border control, paying down the deficit, even crime rate declines have strongly favored Dem presidents over Repub presidents since records for such things have been kept.

Yet, we now have incredibly stupid people storming the Capitol Building, attacking cops, searching out elected officials to shoot and lynch, brandishing and mounting traitorous flags there for the first time in American history, killing, stealing, vandalizing and attempting a violent overthrow of American democracy just so we can have "4 More Years!" of the worst economic "stewardship" and results of all time.

Yes, it probably can't be fixed anytime soon.There are more violent people storming federal buildings in Portland every weekend than there was violence on the capital. There are 10 ties more seats in Portland than there ever was at the capital. Where is the outrage for this?

Canada
05-22-21, 21:10
So right. It is astonishing that anyone who wants the USA Economy to do well would vote for a Republican at any level after Reagan's first presidential term, much less for president.

Not only is the accurate historical record of results for creating USA Jobs crap under Repub presidents compared to Dem presidents, stock market gains border control, paying down the deficit, even crime rate declines have strongly favored Dem presidents over Repub presidents since records for such things have been kept.

Yet, we now have incredibly stupid people storming the Capitol Building, attacking cops, searching out elected officials to shoot and lynch, brandishing and mounting traitorous flags there for the first time in American history, killing, stealing, vandalizing and attempting a violent overthrow of American democracy just so we can have "4 More Years!" of the worst economic "stewardship" and results of all time.

Yes, it probably can't be fixed anytime soon.Everyone in the USA can see how Biden is doing compared to Trump at the border except for you. At least when Republicans are in power crime is still illegal. Democratic states along with Biden and Harris make a mockery of the laws in the country. Crime is at its highest level since defunding the police started than ever. You must be proud to be a democrat supporting criminals. When politicians get attacked at the capital it is the worst crime in history. When ordinary people get attacked everyday it is peaceful protests. Democrats and terrorists. One and the same.

Canada
05-22-21, 21:18
LOL. Biden just took over the presidency. The pipeline is almost complete! You think that was done in 3 months? Nope they had 4 years ignoring Trumps sanctions and non influence. No they were not going to buy US gas when Qatari gas is much cheaper. Qatar is increasing output 50%. Basically all new US gas terminals are on hold because they can't secure the contracts to raise finance.

What has the keystone pipeline got to do with anything? The US isn't paying any more for the oil, the Canadians need to deliver at a competitive price. The objective is that the oil won't be needed at all in 10 years as electric vehicles take over the roads.

The reality is it would have been good if Trump succeeded to cancel Nord stream 2 unfortunately he was grossly incompetent. Anything that provides sustenance and support for Russia is a bad thing. Russian girls need to be kept poor so I can satisfy my infatuation with dyevushkas.USA buys Canadian oil at a competitive price FOB Canada. Plus they pay shipping from Canada to USA. Shipping is much cheaper in pipeline transport than by rail and truck. In 10 years I am still going to be driving my gas car because most of the electric cars will be parked with limited electricity. Some states now don't have enough electricity to keep homes going year round much less supply enough to take all gas cars out of circulation. Do you really think gas prices have increased by 80% because pipelines and drilling don't have an effect on price. Obviously you never had a business or employed people so you think excess regulations and higher taxes will keep commodities cheap.

Golfinho
05-23-21, 00:18
USA buys Canadian oil at a competitive price FOB Canada. Plus they pay shipping from Canada to USA. Shipping is much cheaper in pipeline transport than by rail and truck. In 10 years I am still going to be driving my gas car because most of the electric cars will be parked with limited electricity. Some states now don't have enough electricity to keep homes going year round much less supply enough to take all gas cars out of circulation. Do you really think gas prices have increased by 80% because pipelines and drilling don't have an effect on price. Obviously you never had a business or employed people so you think excess regulations and higher taxes will keep commodities cheap.Finishing the pipeline enabling Germany to acquire Russian fuel is brilliant statesmanship on the part of the Biden Adminstration. Isn't that so much more efficient than transporting gas all the way from North America across an ocean? And they'll be a larger supply of gas in the USA, and at cheaper prices. A win-win for everyone.

GDreams
05-23-21, 03:00
USA buys Canadian oil at a competitive price FOB Canada. Plus they pay shipping from Canada to USA. Shipping is much cheaper in pipeline transport than by rail and truck. In 10 years I am still going to be driving my gas car because most of the electric cars will be parked with limited electricity. Some states now don't have enough electricity to keep homes going year round much less supply enough to take all gas cars out of circulation. Do you really think gas prices have increased by 80% because pipelines and drilling don't have an effect on price. Obviously you never had a business or employed people so you think excess regulations and higher taxes will keep commodities cheap.Yes you are correct the FOB price is a significant discount. For a supposed successful businessman you seem to be clueless on even the most basic of economic principles that the refiners are not going to pay a delivered price to their gate that they cannot buy the same from elsewhere. So they discount the FOB price to cover the transport costs. I guess those who are trapped in a cult where they worship a crime boss whose sole business skills are to get banks to accept big haircuts on loans and money launder Russian crime money are not capable or rational economic analysis.

John Clayton
05-23-21, 03:09
USA buys Canadian oil at a competitive price FOB Canada. Plus they pay shipping from Canada to USA. Shipping is much cheaper in pipeline transport than by rail and truck. In 10 years I am still going to be driving my gas car because most of the electric cars will be parked with limited electricity. Some states now don't have enough electricity to keep homes going year round much less supply enough to take all gas cars out of circulation. Do you really think gas prices have increased by 80% because pipelines and drilling don't have an effect on price. Obviously you never had a business or employed people so you think excess regulations and higher taxes will keep commodities cheap.As an experiment, try not posting for a full week and then report to us if you feel better or worse.

EihTooms
05-23-21, 04:04
Everyone in the USA can see how Biden is doing compared to Trump at the border except for you. At least when Republicans are in power crime is still illegal. Democratic states along with Biden and Harris make a mockery of the laws in the country. Crime is at its highest level since defunding the police started than ever. You must be proud to be a democrat supporting criminals. When politicians get attacked at the capital it is the worst crime in history. When ordinary people get attacked everyday it is peaceful protests. Democrats and terrorists. One and the same."We saw the increases (of unaccompanied minors at the southern U.S. border) dating back almost a year."
MOSTLY TRUE
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/mar/17/veronica-escobar/did-increase-children-arriving-border-start-under-/

2020 Ends as One of America's Most Violent Years in Decades.
https://time.com/5922082/2020-gun-violence-homicides-record-year/#text=Gun%20 violence%20 and%20 gun%20 crime, firearm%2 Drelated%20 incidents%20 in%202020.

I forget. Who was the so-called president in 2020?

Beno69
05-23-21, 04:40
....When politicians get attacked at the capital it is the worst crime in history. When ordinary people get attacked everyday it is peaceful protests. Democrats and terrorists. ....Did you have Covid19? (or doesn't exist for you) - it attacks the brain!

GDreams
05-23-21, 12:39
Sara Boboltz.

Sara Boboltz·Reporter, HuffPost.

Sun, May 23,2021, 4:27 AM·3 min read.

"The Associated Press reporter who was fired after right-wing media and activists worked to destroy her reputation over views she expressed about Israel and Palestine while in college said Saturday that the wire service made her "a scapegoat. "

The reporter, Emily Wilder, who is Jewish, was terminated on Wednesday after three weeks on the job, sparking an immediate outcry from others in the news media.

She had been targeted by the Stanford College Republicans ― a group of college-age conservatives from her alma mater ― for criticizing Zionists including the late billionaire Trump supporter Sheldon Adelson over social media and participating in a group called Students for Justice in Palestine.

Wilder said in a statement that she was fired for violating the AP's social media policy, which the wire service also confirmed in a statement this week. But according to Wilder, AP management never told her which posts supposedly constituted a violation when she asked.

Conservative media and Republicans with large followings, including Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), amplified the Stanford College Republicans' pressure campaign against the wire service. "

Member #4698
05-23-21, 13:19
There are more violent people storming federal buildings in Portland every weekend than there was violence on the capital. There are 10 ties more seats in Portland than there ever was at the capital. Where is the outrage for this?Exactly the point. Downtown Portland, Seattle, and SF have been destroyed by left wing radicals (Antifa and BLM), the incompetent Democrat Mayors and Governors who allowed the rioting to go on and on, and the corrupt corporate media that would not report the mayhem objectively because what was going on ran counter to their story line of peaceful demonstrations. This is eerily similar to what occurred in the final years of the Weimar Republic. Read the history!



https://time.com/5922082/2020-gun-violence-homicides-record-year/#text=Gun%20 violence%20 and%20 gun%20 crime, firearm%2 Drelated%20 incidents%20 in%202020.

I forget. Who was the so-called president in 2020?You seem to forget who is in charge of New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, LA, Baltimore, and Detroit. These are all one party Democrat controlled cities and have been for 50 years or more and they all have incompetent left wing mayors and governors, plus a new phenomenon, radical, rogue, democrat district attorneys who refuse to enforce the law (no cash bail). So things are only going to get worse in American cities, much worse and more violent. For example, last week there was an election in Philadelphia for district attorney between a moderate Democrat, Carlos Vega, who said he would enforce the law (cash bail) and a radical Democrat, Larry Krasner, who said he would not enforce the law (no cash bail). Guess who won?

So ETh, you can try to pin everything on Trump and I am sure there are many like minded BM's who will agree with you, but you could not be more mistaken. I don't think you have an accurate picture of what is going on in the USA or maybe you do and you support the insanity. I don't know you that will to make the assessment, but I do know that all this is insanity is happening for a reason and that this may very well be the last days of the American Republic. Is that what you really want?

Paulie97
05-23-21, 21:39
Exactly the point. Downtown Portland, Seattle, and SF have been destroyed by left wing radicals (Antifa and BLM), the incompetent Democrat Mayors and Governors who allowed the rioting to go on and on, and the corrupt corporate media that would not report the mayhem objectively because what was going on ran counter to their story line of peaceful demonstrations. This is eerily similar to what occurred in the final years of the Weimar Republic.Holler on Chicken Little. You just violated Godwin's Law and lose by default.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Godwin%27s%20Law

There's a long history in America of peaceful protests associated with racial tensions and Civil Rights. There's also often been opportunists around the fringes looting and the like. Very few murders in the Pacific Northwest can be attributed to BLM or Antifa members. Also Antifa has attacked the Democratic headquarters in Portland, and are anarchists with little in common with your typical Democrats. Seeing that you claim to like to read, dig in.

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/202...old-to-71.html

There also were plenty of arrests during these events last summer.

https://www.koin.com/news/protests/p...ough-feb-2021/

Some of the deaths were associated with wingnut counter protestors, or were entirely unrelated to either cause.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-ri...ed-november-1/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/deaths-con...ry?id=72724790

Here's the bottom line though, you and the corporate media (Fox Media Corporation) desperately want to move on from January 6th but nothing is working. Downplaying while re-writing history isn't working, nor is whataboutism. You and Trumpism are stuck with it, spreading stolen election lies that no court has taken seriously, fueling a mob with gallows, zip ties, bombs, and foreign flags murdering police officers while sacking the Capital and trying to stop an election certification. History will remember this for centuries after you've long been in the grave. In them meantime reasonable, patriotic Americans won't let you forget it either.

Paulie97
05-24-21, 01:56
I had some links fail to function, though the articles are still active as I just confirmed. Here they are again. If they fail to work then the issue is internal to ISG.

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2021/01/55-homicides-in-portland-in-2020-the-most-in-26-years-involved-victims-from-8-months-old-to-71.html

https://www.koin.com/news/protests/portland-protest-arrests-by-the-numbers-through-feb-2021/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/deaths-connected-protests-story-complicated/story?id=72724790

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-delayed-november-1/

Golfinho
05-24-21, 02:46
"The Associated Press reporter who was fired after right-wing media and activists worked to destroy her reputation over views she expressed about Israel and Palestine while in college said Saturday that the wire service made her "a scapegoat. "

She had been targeted by the Stanford for criticizing Zionists including the late billionaire Trump supporter Sheldon Adelson over social media and participating in a group called Students for Justice in Palestine.

Wilder said in a statement that she was fired for violating the AP's social media policy This woman had the temerity to touch the third rail in American politics. FYI: this can't be used this as an example of Republican intolerance or whatever. Both parties are on board, bought and paid for to sell out you the taxpaying American citizen on behalf of Zionist supremacism.

EihTooms
05-24-21, 02:46
Exactly the point. Downtown Portland, Seattle, and SF have been destroyed by left wing radicals (Antifa and BLM), the incompetent Democrat Mayors and Governors who allowed the rioting to go on and on, and the corrupt corporate media that would not report the mayhem objectively because what was going on ran counter to their story line of peaceful demonstrations. This is eerily similar to what occurred in the final years of the Weimar Republic. Read the history!

You seem to forget who is in charge of New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, LA, Baltimore, and Detroit. These are all one party Democrat controlled cities and have been for 50 years or more and they all have incompetent left wing mayors and governors, plus a new phenomenon, radical, rogue, democrat district attorneys who refuse to enforce the law (no cash bail). So things are only going to get worse in American cities, much worse and more violent. For example, last week there was an election in Philadelphia for district attorney between a moderate Democrat, Carlos Vega, who said he would enforce the law (cash bail) and a radical Democrat, Larry Krasner, who said he would not enforce the law (no cash bail). Guess who won?

So ETh, you can try to pin everything on Trump and I am sure there are many like minded BM's who will agree with you, but you could not be more mistaken. I don't think you have an accurate picture of what is going on in the USA or maybe you do and you support the insanity. I don't know you that will to make the assessment, but I do know that all this is insanity is happening for a reason and that this may very well be the last days of the American Republic. Is that what you really want?Natty, you appear to be a willing sucker for the Social Issues that Repubs must rile up the electorate on to vote for since no sane person would ever support them for their consistent disastrous economic and foreign policy results.

You list some of the oldest and most densely populated cities in America with the most difficult to manage urban centers where violence is high but forget their now sprawling greater metropilitan areas of suburbs where crime is not a big problem. Those Dem Mayors manage those areas too. Most Americans live in those metropolitan areas and blue states, by choice, and have relatively little interest in living in red states with more tumbleweeds, rattlesnakes and cactus than human beings no matter how fast Barney Fife is on the draw and crime is low as long as Aunt Bee doesn't shout "Bingo!" too loud at the next pot luck church dinner.

I am making light if it because I can only assume you were joking about Dem Mayors of some of the most important and economically influential cities on Earth leading the charge against the American Republic after what the world just witnessed "Law and Order" Repubs doing at the literal site and seat of it on January 6 and their pathetic attempt to re-write the history of it that should and hopefully will define their leadership and Party forever.

Xpartan
05-24-21, 06:12
Sara Boboltz.

Sara BoboltzReporter, HuffPost.

Sun, May 23,2021, 4:27 AM3 min read.

"The Associated Press reporter who was fired after right-wing media and activists worked to destroy her reputation over views she expressed about Israel and Palestine while in college said Saturday that the wire service made her "a scapegoat. "

The reporter, Emily Wilder, who is Jewish, was terminated on Wednesday after three weeks on the job, sparking an immediate outcry from others in the news media.

My understanding is that AP is a news wire service. It's not supposed to take sides. Although it does and historically, the side AP reporters usually take in the Middle East conflicts is pro-Palestinian. Here is an excellent article from a former AP editor that discloses how AP and Western press in general cook the news when Palestinian "martyrs" are involved.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/how-the-media-makes-the-israel-story/383262

Normally Palestinians and their Israel-hating enablers don't have an issue with AP, but this time around AP rubbed them the wrong way. How dare AP have fired a reporter who's advancing their agenda?

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

The reality is there is no ambiguity here. As an AP employee, Ms. Wilder is not supposed to propagate her politics. And yet, that's exactly what she did.

It's true that Twitter conservatives picked that up and traced her politics back to Stanford where she was a vocal pro-Palestinian activist.

However, she hasn't been fired for her college activism; she's been fired for violating the policy of her employer and, more importantly, for getting caught.

If she hadn't been caught publicly, no one at AP would've moved a finger. But after she became famous, AP had to do something.

Anyone who's ever worked for someone knows it's a fair game.


Her Twitter feed since joining the AP contains a few retweets that appear sympathetic to Palestinians in the current Gaza conflict, including a video clip of demonstrators chanting, "Free, free Palestine!

On Sunday, she tweeted: "Objectivity feels fickle when the basic terms we use to report news implicitly take a claim. Using Israel but never Palestine, or war but not siege and occupation are political choices yet media make those exact choices all the time without being flagged as biased.

AP prohibits employees from openly expressing their opinions on political matters and other public issues for fear that could damage the news organization's reputation for objectivity and jeopardize its many reporters around the world.

"We have this policy so the comments of one person cannot create dangerous conditions for our journalists covering the story, Easton said. "Every AP journalist is responsible for safeguarding our ability to report on this conflict, or any other, with fairness and credibility, and cannot take sides in public forums.https://www.dailysabah.com/world/americas/should-ap-have-fired-journalist-who-was-pro-palestine-in-college{tagreplacement4}

Member #4698
05-24-21, 13:16
1) You just violated Godwin's Law and lose by default.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Godwin%27s%20Law

2) There's a long history in America of peaceful protests associated with racial tensions and Civil Rights. There's also often been opportunists around the fringes looting and the like. Very few murders in the Pacific Northwest can be attributed to BLM or Antifa members.

3) Also Antifa has attacked the Democratic headquarters in Portland, and are anarchists with little in common with your typical Democrats. Seeing that you claim to like to read, dig in.


4) There also were plenty of arrests during these events last summer.


5) Here's the bottom line though, you and the corporate media (Fox Media Corporation) My Answer:

1) I did not violate Godwin's Law which I generally agree with. Case in point; there are way too many frivolous Nazi accusations carelessly thrown about mostly from the left to attack conservatives they disagree with and being called a racist is the same thing. Whenever anyone says something contrary to the Left's Orthodoxy they are accused of being racist. It is an effective way of shutting down debate. But I didn't call the leaders of Antifa or BLM or Democratic party leaders Nazis, I was referring to the uncanny similarities of strategies employed by Ernst Roehm (RöHM), leader of the Brown Shirts and the Democratic Parity's use of Antifa and BLM in the run up to the 2020 elections. You can dismiss these similarities if you want to, but I will remind you of George Santayana famous quote, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

2) You call the 2021 ("Summer of Love") rioting peaceful! What a joke.

3) Yeah, Antifa is violent, nihilistic and out of their friggin' minds, but that does not mean they are not useful to the cause. I will refer you again to history, specifically Ernst Roehm, and the fate of the Brown Shirts. Hitler used them as long as they were useful, but as soon as they got in his way and threatened his grip on power he had them eliminated in one night. I am pretty sure the same fate awaits the leaders of Antifa and BLM once the Democrat Party takes full control of the country. Ha!

4) You are not serious. Yes there were arrests and then the authorities let everybody out of jail to riot again the next night. Can you name left wing rioter who has been convicted of a crime and spent time in prison?

5) I love how you appropriate of the phrase, "the corporate media" and try to reserve it solely for Fox. The term "corporate media" refers to radical leftist corporations Disney / ABC, Comcast / NBC, MSNBC, and my favorite AT&T / CNN. But who cares?

Chris P
05-24-21, 13:51
There has been no credible evidence that the election was stolen. Not one piece of evidence was submitted to courts to support all the wild accusations. There is a specific reason for this. If you present unsubstantiated rumours to a court you can be financially sanctioned and have your license to practice law revoked. All these claims have just been a big scam to raise money for legal fights from all Trumps gullible supporters.

Trump had zero success in stopping Nord stream 2. His sanctions were ignored, his tweets were ignored, he had no leverage and everyone concerned knew that his group of 'z' list administrators had no competence to achieve anything..There was ample evidence that the election was both stolen and unconstitutional. Pallets full of hundreds of thousands of ballots, 96% for Biden, showing up at 6 am in just the number required to overturn Trump's massive lead is laughably obvious fraud. Ironically, Belarus is back in the news today and the fake news media have been repeating the "stolen election" story, but without offering an iota of proof. There were no pallets full of ballots for Lukashenko proven to have arrived at 6 am to overhaul his rival's lead. Nobody knows or has any actual forensic evidence of anything in the Belarussian election, and yet the fake news and social media promote the narrative. However, try the same thing in America, with the addition of the evidence above, and you get banned. Double standards and hypocrisy, based on political agenda.

Nevertheless, the latter unconstitutional argument is in fact even more of a slam dunk in the stolen US election. The Constitution says clearly that the method of election must be decided by state legislatures. In the swing states, the state legislatures rejected the mass mail-in voter fraud, so democrat governors (executive branch) or leftwing activist judges (judicial branch) forced it through. That is unconstitutional usurpation of the authority of the legislative branch, and renders the election null and void.

Regarding Nordstream 2, as the article I just posted explained, in 2020 Merkel was on the point of cancelling the pipeline due to Trump's pressure. She was clearly waiting to see the outcome of the 2020 election. Had Trump's victory not been stolen, he would have ramped up the pressure and there is no doubt that the pipeline would have been cancelled, Russia's wealth and influence would have been degraded, and tens of thousands of high-paying American jobs would have been created in the industry both for the Keystone pipeline and exports to Europe. Instead, former Vice-President Biden's handlers have given Russia enormous power and wealth, and destroyed thousands of American lives and communities.

Finally, electric cars: your mumbo-jumbo didn't answer the question of where the power will come from in the first place. Answer: Fossil fuels, because renewables are too inconsistent and lack inertia, which leads to massive power failures such as the nationwide blackout in the UK in August 2019. Secondly, it is impossible to store large amounts of power. Anyone telling you otherwise is talking silly fairytale nonsense to support a leftwing political agenda, which happens regularly.

Chris P
05-24-21, 14:03
a mob with gallows, zip ties, bombs, and foreign flags murdering police officers while sacking the Capital.Hilariously fake news. By "bombs" I guess you mean the couple of tiny "pipebombs" that probably couldn't have blown the top off a coke bottle which were found lying around somewhere, that the feds were never able to trace? So, no evidence who planted them. Which is itself a bit suspicious, given what we know about the bias of the federal government.

"Murdering police officers"? Nope. Sicknick was not hit by a fire extinguisher, and was fine when he spoke to his family after the protest. The only murder was by a federal official of an unarmed veteran protester, Ashli Babbitt. The murderer has not even been named, and has been allowed to go free without any charge whatsoever. It is the name Ashli Babbitt that will be remembered 100 years from now, long after the fake news has been swept away.

"Foreign flags"? Seriously? LOL.

"sacking the Capital" - HAHAHAHA! When a Capital is sacked, it is burned to the ground, destroyed, like the democrat voter base regularly does to city centres and federal buildings in Portland and elsewhere.

You really aren't even making an effort any more, are you?

Chris P
05-24-21, 14:05
As an experiment, try not posting for a full week and then report to us if you feel better or worse.As an experiment, try going to Leningrad for a week and finding the Russian agents you claim are writing websites which are actually based in the USA, then report back to us. Actually, make it a year.

Chris P
05-24-21, 14:13
Obviously you never had a business or employed people so you think excess regulations and higher taxes will keep commodities cheap.Of course they didn't. The average democrat voter has never done any valuable work in their life. They got a degree in Gender Studies from the University of Clownworld, then tried desperately to get a makework government non-job as a "diversity coordinator" sucking on the taxpayer's teat, or creating worthless extra costs and headaches for corporations, which are passed onto the customer as higher prices and worse service. Failing that, they become a Starbucks barista or a NEET back home. That's how Soros can recruit so many of them for his antifa riots: they have nothing better to do.

Member #4698
05-24-21, 17:51
1)Natty, you appear to be a willing sucker for the Social Issues that Repubs must rile up the electorate on to vote for since no sane person would ever support them for their consistent disastrous economic and foreign policy results.

2) You list some of the oldest and most densely populated cities in America with the most difficult to manage urban centers where violence is high but forget their now sprawling greater metropilitan areas of suburbs where crime is not a big problem. Those Dem Mayors manage those areas too.

3)Most Americans live in those metropolitan areas and blue states, by choice, and have relatively little interest in living in red states with more tumbleweeds, rattlesnakes and cactus than human beings no matter how fast Barney Fife is on the draw and crime is low as long as Aunt Bee doesn't shout "Bingo!" too loud at the next pot luck church dinner.

4) I am making light if it because I can only assume you were joking about Dem Mayors of some of the most important and economically influential cities on Earth leading the charge against the American Republic after what the world just witnessed "Law and Order" Repubs doing at the literal site and seat of it on January 6 and their pathetic attempt to re-write the history of it that should and hopefully will define their leadership and Party forever.1) Hi ET.

I consider your opening remark insulting, but it us your opinion to which I believe you are still entitled to so I will leave it at that, however, I will add that it inclines me to think that you don't have much experience conversing with people who you do not agree with you. But let's be real for 2 seconds: nobody riles up their electorate base more / better than race baiting lefties. You must be aware of this fact unless you are a complete partisan and can no longer separate the truth from party dogma.

2) No, they don't. The suburbs have their own mayors, budgets, school districts, and city councils. Although those suburbs which are unfortunately in the same counties as the large dysfunctional cities suffer under fiscal controls (taxation) and states like Illinois and Oregon are politically controlled by their urban centers. This is the reason parts of Oregon, CA, and Illinois are exploring ways to secede from their respective states and who can blame them.

3) I can't believe you wrote this Barney Fife BS. You must be high. Once upon a time people lived in these metropolitan areas by choice. That was when these cities were still functional and cultural centers. Things have changed since you moved to Thailand especially in the last few years. These cities are now lawless and falling apart. Many are bankrupt. That is why there is now an exodus away from these Dem controlled cities and states like CA, NY and IL. LOOK it UP if you don't believe me. And this trend has just begun. It will grow over the next few decades as the cities continue to decline in quality of life. So yeah, I would rather live in North Carolina, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma than New York, CA, or Illinois any day of the week. The only thing the later states have over the former ("Barney fife" states: I can't believe how arrogant your comment is) is better restaurants / better food.

4) Then you should not make assumptions. Don't make light of this. I am talking about the self- destruction of once great American cities. What Dem Mayors, in your opinion are doing a good job? De Blasio, Garcetti, Lightfoot, Kenney, Breed, Durkan, Bowser, Wheeler, Scott? Please try to defend any one of these buffoons. Give it your best shot and I will know you are not a serious person.

January 6, January 6, January 6. Trump, Trump, Trump. Is that all you guys can come up with? COME ON MAN! (that's a joke) No one on the conservative side is defending the right-wing morons who stormed the capital building. What we are pointing out is the utter hypocrisy of the left that always whitewashes, ignores, and in some cases even encourages left wing morons to destroy whole downtown areas. Seattle & Portland are never going to recover in our lifetime. Do you not understand this?

So what, Nancy Pelosi pissed in her panties on January 6 and to change her wet panties. That was about the only long-term permanent damage caused by these right-wing morons. If you can't acknowledge the hypocrisy here and call out the left-wing thugs for what they are, then there is no common ground between us. Is that serious enough for you?

Lastly, you have chosen to live in BKK. Smart move! You would be out of your mind to come back to the USA.

John Clayton
05-24-21, 18:46
As an experiment, try going to Leningrad for a week and finding the Russian agents you claim are writing websites which are actually based in the USA, then report back to us. Actually, make it a year.Easy enough to find them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency

PVMonger
05-24-21, 20:46
There was ample evidence that the election was both stolen and unconstitutional. Pallets full of hundreds of thousands of ballots, 96% for Biden, showing up at 6 am in just the number required to overturn Trump's massive lead is laughably obvious fraud. deletedIf you have all this proof, why has no court accepted it? Why has no Trump lawsuit alleged fraud? If you have all this proof, why haven't you sent it to Florida? Hey, I have proof that the moon is made out of cheese, too. I'll show you my evidence when Donnie wins his first fraud lawsuit.

Xpartan
05-24-21, 21:38
Easy enough to find them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency"Pathological lying is a possible symptom of certain personality disorders, including:

- borderline personality disorder (BPD).

- narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).

- ant*ial personality disorder (APD).

BPD is a condition that makes it difficult for a person to regulate their emotions. People with BPD may experience severe mood swings, feel greater instability and insecurity, and not have a stable sense of self.

The hallmarks of NPD are fantasies of immense importance and the need for admiration and special treatment.

Researchers argue that while pathological lying may, in theory, occur in people with APD, those with this condition often lie for personal gain or pleasure.

A person with BPD or NPD may lie to distort reality into something that fits with the emotions that they are feeling, rather than the facts.".

Here we go!

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/pathological-liars#causes.

NB: Why does anti s o cial get bleeped, LOL?

Chris P
05-24-21, 22:52
Easy enough to find them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_AgencyThe actual evidence for any of that fake news? A Buzzfeed article. Yes, an article on a cat blog. LOL.

EihTooms
05-25-21, 00:25
1) Hi ET.

I consider your opening remark insulting, but it us your opinion to which I believe you are still entitled to so I will leave it at that, however, I will add that it inclines me to think that you don't have much experience conversing with people who you do not agree with you. But let's be real for 2 seconds: nobody riles up their electorate base more / better than race baiting lefties. You must be aware of this fact unless you are a complete partisan and can no longer separate the truth from party dogma.

2) No, they don't. The suburbs have their own mayors, budgets, school districts, and city councils. Although those suburbs which are unfortunately in the same counties as the large dysfunctional cities suffer under fiscal controls (taxation) and states like Illinois and Oregon are politically controlled by their urban centers. This is the reason parts of Oregon, CA, and Illinois are exploring ways to secede from their respective states and who can blame them.

3) I can't believe you wrote this Barney Fife BS. You must be high. Once upon a time people lived in these metropolitan areas by choice. That was when these cities were still functional and cultural centers. Things have changed since you moved to Thailand especially in the last few years. These cities are now lawless and falling apart. Many are bankrupt. That is why there is now an exodus away from these Dem controlled cities and states like CA, NY and IL. LOOK it UP if you don't believe me. And this trend has just begun. It will grow over the next few decades as the cities continue to decline in quality of life. So yeah, I would rather live in North Carolina, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma than New York, CA, or Illinois any day of the week. The only thing the later states have over the former ("Barney fife" states: I can't believe how arrogant your comment is) is better restaurants / better food.

4) Then you should not make assumptions. Don't make light of this. I am talking about the self- destruction of once great American cities. What Dem Mayors, in your opinion are doing a good job? De Blasio, Garcetti, Lightfoot, Kenney, Breed, Durkan, Bowser, Wheeler, Scott? Please try to defend any one of these buffoons. Give it your best shot and I will know you are not a serious person.1) Hi Natty.

Race-baiting has been the first and favorite method of choice for Repub candidate presidential runs since Nixon and Lee Atwater created their Party's "Southern Strategy." It was fully embraced and exploited by every Repub candidate since Ford, from Reagan to Trump.

2) The greater metropolitan areas with different mayors around most big blue cities in big blue states are also likely to be Dems. I guarantee you it is a much harder job to be Mayor of Chicago than a Senator of Nebraska. Repubs being by nature deadbeats would not likely choose the former over the latter.

3) 18% of the country votes for some 52% of Congress. Outlaw gerrymandering, set the number of Senate seats by population instead of by square miles of empty space between State border lines, dump the racist origin Electoral College system and we would never see a Repub president, a Repub-controlled House or Senate or therefore a Great Repub Crash and Depression/Recession again. Then we can start getting things done with our tax dollars that the vast majority of Americans want done.

There is no reason for comparatively desolate states like the two Dakota territories to have FOUR Senators, TWICE as many votes in the Senate as a real state like California. Wyoming has only marginally more ordinary citizens living in that state as they have elected officials in the House and Senate! That is ridiculous even though some of those elected officials are occasionally Dems.

4) January 6th was a culmination of Trumpism that began its March to Anti-American sedition and insurrection at least since Trump's ride down the escalator. I would argue Anti-American style "Trumpism" began with the Reagan war whoop against America, "...government is not the solution to our problem, government IS the problem." Trump merely rode that escalator down to join what he well knew was already the Party in Waiting for his intended insurrection march that culminated on January 6th.

Canada
05-25-21, 00:42
"Pathological lying is a possible symptom of certain personality disorders, including:

- borderline personality disorder (BPD).

- narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).

- ant*ial personality disorder (APD).

BPD is a condition that makes it difficult for a person to regulate their emotions. People with BPD may experience severe mood swings, feel greater instability and insecurity, and not have a stable sense of self.

The hallmarks of NPD are fantasies of immense importance and the need for admiration and special treatment.

Researchers argue that while pathological lying may, in theory, occur in people with APD, those with this condition often lie for personal gain or pleasure.

A person with BPD or NPD may lie to distort reality into something that fits with the emotions that they are feeling, rather than the facts.".

Here we go!

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/pathological-liars#causes.

NB: Why does anti s o cial get bleeped, LOL?I am proud of both of you going to get professional help for your Pathological lying and personality disorders. It is a step in the right direction. Hopefully treatment will cure both of you so you can post some honest information on Biden failures.

Canada
05-25-21, 00:43
Of course they didn't. The average democrat voter has never done any valuable work in their life. They got a degree in Gender Studies from the University of Clownworld, then tried desperately to get a makework government non-job as a "diversity coordinator" sucking on the taxpayer's teat, or creating worthless extra costs and headaches for corporations, which are passed onto the customer as higher prices and worse service. Failing that, they become a Starbucks barista or a NEET back home. That's how Soros can recruit so many of them for his antifa riots: they have nothing better to do.Agreed. And fortunately they are the ones the suffer the most in Biden presidency.

D Cups
05-25-21, 01:32
I am proud of both of you going to get professional help for your Pathological lying and personality disorders. It is a step in the right direction. Hopefully treatment will cure both of you so you can post some honest information on Biden failures.It will take years of intense, deep impact counseling and shock treatment to cure these misguided miscreants aka democrats. Years! A full frontal lobotomy is recommended.

Golfinho
05-25-21, 02:04
1) Hi Natty.

Race-baiting has been the first and favorite method of choice for Repub candidate presidential runs since Nixon and Lee Atwater created their Party's "Southern Strategy." It was fully embraced and exploited by every Repub candidate since Ford, from Reagan to Trump.

2) The greater metropolitan areas with different mayors around most big blue cities in big blue states are also likely to be Dems. I guarantee you it is a much harder job to be Mayor of Chicago than a Senator of Nebraska. Repubs being by nature deadbeats would not likely choose the former over the latter.

3) 18% of the country votes for some 52% of Congress. Outlaw gerrymandering, set the number of Senate seats by population instead of by square miles of empty space between State border lines, dump the racist origin Electoral College system and we would never see a Repub president, a Repub-controlled House or Senate or therefore a Great Repub Crash and Depression/Recession again. Then we can start getting things done with our tax dollars that the vast majority of Americans want done.

There is no reason for comparatively desolate states like the two Dakota territories to have FOUR Senators, TWICE as many votes in the Senate as a real state like California. Wyoming has only marginally more ordinary citizens living in that state as they have elected officials in the House and Senate! That is ridiculous even though some of those elected officials are occasionally Dems.Race pandering has been the first and favorite method of choice for Dem candidate presidential runs -- from Clinton talking black churches burning to running corporate approved characters like Barry and Camela.

Paulie97
05-25-21, 03:00
So what, Nancy Pelosi pissed in her panties on January 6 and to change her wet panties. That was about the only long-term permanent damage caused by these right-wing morons. The families of the slain police officers would surely take issue with that, irrespective of any political affiliation or your desire to see Pelosi suffer. And you are among these "right-wing morons" as you support their causes, the stolen election lies, their white victimization, their "they are coming in black helicopters to take our guns" nonsense, whining about socialism while enjoying their Social Security, Medicare, and student loans, etc. And above we see yet another laughable attempt to downplay the events of 1/6, a date that will remain infamous for at least as long as 9/11. This all proves you as with a head full of wingnut propaganda, are part of the team, and very much part of the problem. And it's a problem that most Americans want to continue to see disempowered at the national level.

Golfinho
05-25-21, 04:22
set the number of Senate seats by population instead of by square miles of empty space between State border lines
There is no reason for comparatively desolate states like the two Dakota territories to have FOUR Senators, TWICE as many votes in the Senate as a real state like California. Wyoming has only marginally more ordinary citizens living in that state as they have elected officials in the House and Senate!.You make the common mistake of believing elected Senators represent 'population'. They don't. They mediate between the interests in their territories. Wyoming and the Dakotas, to use your examples, have mineral resources, gas and oil, public lands, aquifiers probably -- commodities all more valuable to corporate interests than human resources, which are a replaceable hindrance to them, at best.

EihTooms
05-25-21, 04:39
Race pandering has been the first and favorite method of choice for Dem candidate presidential runs -- from Clinton talking black churches burning to running corporate approved characters like Barry and Camela.It was nice of the Republican Party campaign strategists to finally admit their consistent race-baiting to win votes. But it hasn't stopped them from continuing to do it over and over again, relying on it to, at best for them, squeeze out mostly narrow Electoral College wins despite majority vote losses.

RNC Chief to Say It Was 'Wrong' to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2005/07/14/rnc-chief-to-say-it-was-wrong-to-exploit-racial-conflict-for-votes/66889840-8d59-44e1-8784-5c9b9ae85499/

It was called "the southern strategy," started under Richard M. Nixon in 1968, and described Republican efforts to use race as a wedge issue -- on matters such as desegregation and busing -- to appeal to white southern voters.

Ken Mehlman, the Republican National Committee chairman, this morning will tell the NAACP national convention in Milwaukee that it was wrong.

"By the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out," Mehlman says in his prepared text. "Some Republicans gave up on winning the African American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."


Do a Google search and you'll find Nixon's campaign campaign strategist, Lee Atwater, admitting it as well. Reagan, Bush1, Bush2, Trump, they all followed that strategy. They had to unless they were going to run and try to win on their Party's actual consistent economic and foreign policy results. Lol. And they know there is no way they could ever do that.

Paulie97
05-25-21, 05:50
Do a Google search and you'll find Nixon's campaign campaign strategist, Lee Atwater, admitting it as well. Reagan, Bush1, Bush2, Trump, they all followed that strategy. They had to unless they were going to run on their Party's consistent economic and foreign policy results. Lol. And no way they could do that.Southern strategy yes, but the defining moment was 1964 with the nomination of Barry Goldwater for president. Look at the electoral college map. Ha Ha.

https://www.270towin.com/1964_Election/interactive_map

It was here that the Repubs completely turned their backs on their historic commitment to Civil Rights and have never looked back. That's in spite of Bob Dole's speech at the '96 RNC where he told the bigots to hit the door claiming they were "the Party of Lincoln." Sounds good but that horse had long left the stable and his sentiments got him nowhere. And yes you are correct in that this strategy became most toxic in Trump reaching the crescendo on January 6th. And of course it continues, with the blacks and browns stole the election nonsense that no judge takes seriously, the "Democratic cities" race baiting when, as has been repeatedly demonstrated is largely reflective of the urban drug trade and gang warfare. Such goes back to the early 19th century in the US mostly with the Irish then the Italians in the 20's. Many born into poverty look for alternative ways to prosper and Caucasians have taken that road as well. There were no easy answers to these phenomenon back in the 1840's nor in the 20's, same as now though they give white bigots opportunities to race bait, just as the Irish and Italians were targeted in the past. And don't forget about the Jew baiters of which we've had a few here roaming about, and which represents the bottom of the food chain.

P.S. Here's another point that is continually ignored here, that according to an October 2020 DHS report, White Supremacists represent our deadliest domestic terrorist. Now that is one shithole that needs to be cleaned up. And in spite of all the posturing for ratings on Tucker Carlson Tonight, Antifa isn't even mentioned.

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/deadly-domestic-extremism-worst-in-25-years-fbi-white-supremacists_n_60a0591ae4b03e1dd38a5b4e

Golfinho
05-25-21, 14:47
It was nice of the Republican Party campaign strategists to finally admit their consistent race-baiting to win votes.
Do a Google search and you'll find Nixon's campaign campaign strategist, Lee Atwater, admitting it as well. Reagan, Bush1, Bush2, Trump, they all followed that strategy. They had to unless they were going to run and try to win on their Party's actual consistent economic and foreign policy results.What are you scribbling about Lee Atwater? He was like in junior high school when the 1968 campaigns were formulating. The racial shift in Party allegiance sea change had been cast with the 1954 Court Decision. This is well-understood. For details, see what Pat Buchanan among others have long ago written about it.

PVMonger
05-25-21, 22:41
Southern strategy yes, but the defining moment was 1964 with the nomination of Barry Goldwater for president. Look at the electoral college map. Ha Ha.

https://www.270towin.com/1964_Election/interactive_map

It was here that the Repubs completely turned their backs on their historic commitment to Civil Rights and have never looked back. That's in spite of Bob Dole's speech at the '96 RNC where he told the bigots to hit the door claiming they were "the Party of Lincoln." Sounds good but that horse had long left the stable and his sentiments got him nowhere. And yes you are correct in that this strategy became most toxic in Trump reaching the crescendo on January 6th. And of course it continues, with the blacks and browns stole the election nonsense that no judge takes seriously, the "Democratic cities" race baiting when, as has been repeatedly demonstrated is largely reflective of the urban drug trade and gang warfare. Such goes back to the early 19th century in the US mostly with the Irish then the Italians in the 20's. Many born into poverty look for alternative ways to prosper and Caucasians have taken that road as well. There were no easy answers to these phenomenon back in the 1840's nor in the 20's, same as now though they give white bigots opportunities to race bait, just as the Irish and Italians were targeted in the past. And don't forget about the Jew baiters of which we've had a few here roaming about, and which represents the bottom of the food chain.

P.S. Here's another point that is continually ignored here, that according to an October 2020 DHS report, White Supremacists represent our deadliest domestic terrorist. Now that is one shithole that needs to be cleaned up. And in spite of all the posturing for ratings on Tucker Carlson Tonight, Antifa isn't even mentioned.

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/deadly-domestic-extremism-worst-in-25-years-fbi-white-supremacists_n_60a0591ae4b03e1dd38a5b4eI love when Republicans who, BTW, are supremely ignorant of history, rant about "antifa".

They refuse to believe that they are, for the most part, fascists and they forget that if their father or grandfather fought in WWII, they were "antifa".

Canada
05-26-21, 03:44
I love when Republicans who, BTW, are supremely ignorant of history, rant about "antifa".

They refuse to believe that they are, for the most part, fascists and they forget that if their father or grandfather fought in WWII, they were "antifa".This post proves no common sense and you can't fix stupid. The grandfathers who fought in World War II weren't anti America terrorists like antifa.

MiamiSammy
05-26-21, 03:50
This post proves no common sense and you can't fix stupid. The grandfathers who fought in World War II weren't anti America terrorists like antifa.Especially your kind of stupid. It's an especially toxic variety.

MiamiSammy
05-26-21, 03:55
Southern strategy yes, but the defining moment was 1964 with the nomination of Barry Goldwater for president. Look at the electoral college map. Ha Ha.

https://www.270towin.com/1964_Election/interactive_map

It was here that the Repubs completely turned their backs on their historic commitment to Civil Rights and have never looked back. That's in spite of Bob Dole's speech at the '96 RNC where he told the bigots to hit the door claiming they were "the Party of Lincoln." Sounds good but that horse had long left the stable and his sentiments got him nowhere. And yes you are correct in that this strategy became most toxic in Trump reaching the crescendo on January 6th. And of course it continues, with the blacks and browns stole the election nonsense that no judge takes seriously, the "Democratic cities" race baiting when, as has been repeatedly demonstrated is largely reflective of the urban drug trade and gang warfare. Such goes back to the early 19th century in the US mostly with the Irish then the Italians in the 20's. Many born into poverty look for alternative ways to prosper and Caucasians have taken that road as well. There were no easy answers to these phenomenon back in the 1840's nor in the 20's, same as now though they give white bigots opportunities to race bait, just as the Irish and Italians were targeted in the past. And don't forget about the Jew baiters of which we've had a few here roaming about, and which represents the bottom of the food chain.

P.S. Here's another point that is continually ignored here, that according to an October 2020 DHS report, White Supremacists represent our deadliest domestic terrorist. Now that is one shithole that needs to be cleaned up. And in spite of all the posturing for ratings on Tucker Carlson Tonight, Antifa isn't even mentioned.

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/deadly-domestic-extremism-worst-in-25-years-fbi-white-supremacists_n_60a0591ae4b03e1dd38a5b4eThe Southern Strategy comes from Strom Thurmond's Dixiecrat party in the Election of 1948. It wasn't revived until Nixon ran in 1968. The issues with the defections at the Democratic National Convention are a separate issue than the Southern Strategy, though George Wallace had a good run with it.

MiamiSammy
05-26-21, 03:55
What are you scribbling about Lee Atwater? He was like in junior high school when the 1968 campaigns were formulating. The racial shift in Party allegiance sea change had been cast with the 1954 Court Decision. This is well-understood. For details, see what Pat Buchanan among others have long ago written about it.The division happens in 1948 when Strom Thurmond formed the Dixiecrat party.

MiamiSammy
05-26-21, 04:01
It was nice of the Republican Party campaign strategists to finally admit their consistent race-baiting to win votes. But it hasn't stopped them from continuing to do it over and over again, relying on it to, at best for them, squeeze out mostly narrow Electoral College wins despite majority vote losses.

RNC Chief to Say It Was 'Wrong' to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2005/07/14/rnc-chief-to-say-it-was-wrong-to-exploit-racial-conflict-for-votes/66889840-8d59-44e1-8784-5c9b9ae85499/


Do a Google search and you'll find Nixon's campaign campaign strategist, Lee Atwater, admitting it as well. Reagan, Bush1, Bush2, Trump, they all followed that strategy. They had to unless they were going to run and try to win on their Party's actual consistent economic and foreign policy results. Lol. And they know there is no way they could ever do that.Nixon's long-time political strategist was a guy named Murray Chotiner. Otherwise, everything in the Nixon camp was run by HR Halderman. Lee Atwater was George HW Bush. Reagan had Roger Ailes, who went on to make FoxNews what it is today.

Don't try to teach history unless you know WTF you're talking about.

PVMonger
05-26-21, 04:19
This post proves no common sense and you can't fix stupid. The grandfathers who fought in World War II weren't anti America terrorists like antifa.The only people who believe that antifa are anti American are fascists.

Fascists hate democracy. Just like trump supporters (let's restrict the vote).

Fascists hate liberals. Just like trump supporters.

Fascists love totalitarian. Just like trump supporters.

Fascists love the wealthy. Just like trump supporters (trickle-down economics).

Fascists love the corporations. Just like trump supporters (trump 'tax cuts'.

Fascists love the military values. Just like trump supporters (don't rock the boat).

Fascists believe in one, all powerful cult-like leader. Just like trump supporters (duh).

Fascists love violence. Just like trump supporters (let's run over peaceful protesters like in Charlottesville).

Fascists love blaming others when things go wrong. Just like trump supporters (re: every trump speech).

Fascists hate intelligence. Just like trump supporters.

Fascists hate large cities. Just like trump supporters.

Fascists are misogynists. Just like trump supporters.

Member #4698
05-26-21, 14:16
For some glaringly obvious reasons the leftist on this forum and in the corporate media prefer to talk about the racism of 60 to 70 years ago ignoring the fact that the Democrat Party was the party of Slavery and Jim Crow. Fine. I do not give a fuck.

But what bothers me and should concern all Americans, is the racist and totalitarian policies now endorsed and being implemented by todays Democrat Party and their lackeys.

Anybody remember Martin Luther King Jr's,"I have a Dream" speech? I do. Here is the most relevant part: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Yes, that is something worth remembering and defending. It is really a crime that this idea is now dead in the National Democratic Party. Dead! Because everything in the new radical, fascist Democratic Party is about race. And everyone, everything is now defined in this new world order by his or her race. The radical Democrats have a lovely word for it. (They always come up with fine sounding words to describe their despicable actions and ideologies.) They call it Equity. So down with Equality. Equality is racist. Up with Equity. And if you disagree with this, well you guessed it, you are branded a racist.

So, let's get real. Any of you leftist here want to defend Critical Race Theory (CRT) and the forced indoctrination of this modern left wing racism on innocent children (Black, White, Asian, Latino) in grade schools? Martin Luther King's dream of a colorblind society is dead in the Democratic Party. This is racism in America today.

And oh yeah, black lives do not matter in the USA unless some moron gets himself killed by a white cop while resisting arrest. The daily slaughter of black citizens in every major American city (all run by the Democratic Party Machine for the last 50 to 75 years) by black criminals; that is never mentioned in the Democratic Party and no Democrat Politician, black or white, gives a shit. That is racism in America today.

But go on boys, keep talking about those "racist" Republicans of 50 years ago. Or better yet, let's get back to Trump Trump Trump. Russia Russia Russia. That something you can handle.

Vagabundo1
05-26-21, 15:18
Maybe this belongs more in a politics thread -- American politics or Brazilian politics -- but frankly, bolsonaro has gotten it right, and I am f'ing glad he is president of the country I have lived in since Covid started.

The man rides a bike. He's the real military man that Trump wanted to be.

He beat Covid himself.

The cure for this flu like "killer" is to go swim in the ocean and get sun at the beach and have a healthy diet to support an immune system.

The state is not supposed to be your nanny, your nurse, your boss, though the puritan eco green control freaks of north America and other rich world countries think it should be.

We have Brazil to thank for 8 dollar pussy in a world gone fucking crazy.

Member #4698
05-26-21, 18:18
Vagabundo,

I just have to say, after having spent 5 weeks in SP & RJ (limited time I know) that I think racial relations in Brazil seemed to be much better / healthier than current racial relations in the USA. It was not always this way, but as of right now, I think that Brazil has much better and more sane relations.

I don't like to talk local politics when I am in a foreign country as a visitor, but the few Brazilians that expressed their political views to me, said they disliked Bolsonaro. I am pretty sure the main reason for their displeasure is Covid, but I am no expert on Brazilian politics. Me, I kind of like the guy for the reasons you posted however. Ha Ha.

PVMonger
05-26-21, 19:23
For some glaringly obvious reasons the leftist on this forum and in the corporate media prefer to talk about the racism of 60 to 70 years ago ignoring the fact that the Democrat Party was the party of Slavery and Jim Crow. Fine. I do not give a fuck.

But what bothers me and should concern all Americans, is the racist and totalitarian policies now endorsed and being implemented by todays Democrat Party and their lackeys.

Anybody remember Martin Luther King Jr's,"I have a Dream" speech? I do. Here is the most relevant part: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Yes, that is something worth remembering and defending. It is really a crime that this idea is now dead in the National Democratic Party. Dead! Because everything in the new radical, fascist Democratic Party is about race. And everyone, everything is now defined in this new world order by his or her race. The radical Democrats have a lovely word for it. (They always come up with fine sounding words to describe their despicable actions and ideologies.) They call it Equity. So down with Equality. Equality is racist. Up with Equity.Here's the problem with your "Critical Race Theory" rant. You aren't black.

When I attended Real Estate school, we had several sessions on "racism". It was all related to Real Estate, obviously, but it was interesting to see how "out of touch" the mostly white class was about what constituted "racism". There were one or two black students and they got every nuance correct whereas the white students got even the basics wrong.

What I learned from that experience was that most white folks don't have a clue about what racism is, primarily because they don't have to live with it every minute of every day. This, of course, is complicated by the fact that most Republicans believe that racism is BS. If Republicans had their way, only white folks would vote. Well, maybe a few black folks too, but only those who owned a business.

PVMonger
05-26-21, 21:06
Maybe this belongs more in a politics thread -- American politics or Brazilian politics -- but frankly, bolsonaro has gotten it right, and I am f'ing glad he is president of the country I have lived in since Covid started.

The man rides a bike. He's the real military man that Trump wanted to be.

He beat Covid himself.

The cure for this flu like "killer" is to go swim in the ocean and get sun at the beach and have a healthy diet to support an immune system.

The state is not supposed to be your nanny, your nurse, your boss, though the puritan eco green control freaks of north America and other rich world countries think it should be.

We have Brazil to thank for 8 dollar pussy in a world gone fucking crazy.Brazil has 2,100+ deaths per million population, 11th worst in the world. The actual COVID death toll is likely much higher since many victims died at home.

There were 3 moronic "let's downplay this" world leaders, Donnie, Bolsonaro and AMLO (Mexico). All 3 of them screwed it up and all 3 of them got mild COVID and lived. Boris Johnson damned near died when he got COVID and became a believer. The others are stupid.

Paulie97
05-27-21, 00:11
For some glaringly obvious reasons the leftist on this forum and in the corporate media prefer to talk about the racism of 60 to 70 years ago ignoring the fact that the Democrat Party was the party of Slavery and Jim Crow. Fine. I do not give a fuck.That's completely irrelevant. Your crowd isn't lining up to support Democrats today, and haven't in a very long time. The Repubs took up your cause in '64 with the nomination of Barry Goldwater and haven't looked back, all the way through to January 6 and to now. Reminds me of that buffoon Jeffrey Lord, his only claim to fame is to have been an errand boy in the Reagan administration. He was the token wingnut on CNN panels for about a year and was regularly laughed off the stage with that argument. But yea, just more of the same, whataboutism, like what some Democrats did 100 years ago has anything to do with the present political climate. And you have one huge one to explain, January 6th, and are getting more and more shrill trying to do so. Keep Squirming while we keep sticking it in your face. Wink.

Paulie97
05-27-21, 00:37
The Southern Strategy comes from Strom Thurmond's Dixiecrat party in the Election of 1948. It wasn't revived until Nixon ran in 1968. The issues with the defections at the Democratic National Convention are a separate issue than the Southern Strategy, though George Wallace had a good run with it.Goldwater ran on a state's right platform to woo southern segregationists. It was a new Republican Party from that point forward. You have a point about Thurmond as a precursor, but when it comes to the Repubs and national politics it begins with Goldwater.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/07/26/what-we-get-wrong-about-southern-strategy/

Paulie97
05-27-21, 00:55
the corporate mediaThe guy still hasn't figured out that Fox News is part of a large corporation, as are a number of other conservative media outlets. But fuck, we can't let truth get in the way wingnut social media talking points. Wink.

GDreams
05-27-21, 01:31
The man rides a bike. He's the real military man that Trump wanted to be.

He beat Covid himself.

The state is not supposed to be your nanny, your nurse, your boss, though the puritan eco green control freaks of north America and other rich world countries think it should be.

We have Brazil to thank for 8 dollar pussy in a world gone fucking crazy.1. Last first - $8 pussy is a pretty good indictment of him being a failure. If the country was successful the pussy would be a lot more expensive.

2. If you like being in the military so much go and enlist and spend the rest of your life in the military. Go live in a tent and use a long drop on a freezing cold night for a few years and tell us again how great the military is /.

3. So what if he beat Covid, 98% do, though many have some pretty nasty after affects if the survive, like strokes, amputations, permanent lung damage, but why worry about any of that! What ignorant such as yourself ignore is that it is not staying the same or going away due to wishful thinking such as sun, diet etc. It is mutating, South African, Indian, Brazilian variants. India thought it had it beat and are now in crisis. Beating it by good policy and getting rid of it is the best option, not letting it mutate into something more contagious and deadly is just stupidity.

4. Democracy is a system that allows all members of society to have freedoms and benefits. It allows societal cohesion to concentrate on improving the common good rather than waste resources trying to keep incompetents in power such as monachies, oligarchies and military dictatorships which you clearly favour. Ultimately these systems collapse into civil war. If Trump was even remotely competent he would have retained power rather than being tossed out for the joke he was.

Paulie97
05-27-21, 01:59
If Trump was even remotely competent he would have retained power rather than being tossed out for the joke he was.That's the bottom line, or where the rubber meets the road as some like to say.

EihTooms
05-27-21, 02:00
What are you scribbling about Lee Atwater? He was like in junior high school when the 1968 campaigns were formulating. The racial shift in Party allegiance sea change had been cast with the 1954 Court Decision. This is well-understood. For details, see what Pat Buchanan among others have long ago written about it.You're right. My bad. There have been so many race-baiting Republican Party campaign strategists playing on that sucker social issue to con the American electorate into voting for their consistently failed economic agenda at least since Nixon and right up to Trump I got Atwater's timeline mixed up.

But his admission about how Republicans used to do it more blatantly, by whatever name they called it, until he came along to do it in slightly more subtle ways to accomplish the exact same thing as his predecessors shows how interchangeable those strategists were anyway.

The next Republican presidental candidate will have a new strategist employing the same strategy regardless what his or her name is or what they call the strategy. That is, unless their latest strategy of simply making it harder for minorities in the big cities and typical Dem areas to vote or have their vote count anyway is so successful in the future there is no reason for them to hire a strategist, say anything or campaign at all.

Vagabundo1
05-27-21, 02:26
First, first: 8 dollar pussy is in fact a sign of the highest level of social development. Putting the fem dom whack jobs in charge is on the way to destroying the USA. But you seem happy with it, eh?

I won't take the bait to respond in detail on the military. I can't even understand your statement about "long drop. " Obviously, you've spent some time in uniform? (I doubt it).

People die. Age, obesity are always compounding factors. Covid is a excuse for social control by the leftist whack jobs. But go ahead, give away your freedom so the so called leaders can control your life. I am a Joe Rogan dude, I basically subscribe to his approach which has lead him to leave the worst environment in the US.

The left's "win" in 2020 is not going to do them much good. It is already backfiring.


1. Last first - $8 pussy is a pretty good indictment of him being a failure. If the country was successful the pussy would be a lot more expensive.

2. If you like being in the military so much go and enlist and spend the rest of your life in the military. Go live in a tent and use a long drop on a freezing cold night for a few years and tell us again how great the military is /.

3. So what if he beat Covid, 98% do, though many have some pretty nasty after affects if the survive, like strokes, amputations, permanent lung damage, but why worry about any of that! What ignorant such as yourself ignore is that it is not staying the same or going away due to wishful thinking such as sun, diet etc. It is mutating, South African, Indian, Brazilian variants. India thought it had it beat and are now in crisis. Beating it by good policy and getting rid of it is the best option, not letting it mutate into something more contagious and deadly is just stupidity.

4. Democracy is a system that allows all members of society to have freedoms and benefits. It allows societal cohesion to concentrate on improving the common good rather than waste resources trying to keep incompetents in power such as monachies, oligarchies and military dictatorships which you clearly favour. Ultimately these systems collapse into civil war. If Trump was even remotely competent he would have retained power rather than being tossed out for the joke he was.

Paulie97
05-27-21, 03:42
January 6, January 6, January 6. Trump, Trump, Trump. Is that all you guys can come up with? COME ON MAN! That's quite a lot man, to say the least. In fact it was enough to make your guy a one term president plus win back the House and Senate inside of four years, all collectively for the first time since Hoover. And that's all without January 6th which will live in infamy centuries after your desperate whataboutisms have long been forgotten. That's just how it is.

P.S. The cap key and overuse of exclamation marks never help an argument. They only make you look desperate, which you are, but why show your hand?

Member #4698
05-27-21, 03:58
Here's the problem with your "Critical Race Theory" rant. You aren't black.
That's it? That's all you got. "I am not Black. " That is racist. Do you even know what Critical Race Theory is?

But fuck me. I can't believe I didn't see it until now. Tonight, I finally became curious and suspicious about you, so I went back over most your posting history all the way to 8/11/2019 covering 125 of your total 198 posts on ISG and guess what? Although you know already what I am going to report: You have not made 1 worthwhile contribution on the subject of girls and sex!

So, I am calling you out. You are not a monger like the rest of us. You are a political troll! A political plant / troublemaker.

Here are the facts: out of 125 posts I found only 1 that even mentioned a girl and only 3 posts that were not political, but those 3 contained no information about "our" hobby. The rest of your posts dated from 8/11/2019 to the present are all political leftwing diatribes and arguments. You have had a few posts in the Colombia thread that have been deleted for their argumentative nature and I think a couple more likewise in the Mexico thread. By my count, therefore, since August 2019 you have posted 118 times out of the total of 125 posts in this thread and only this thread. All highly opinionated and argumentative. Many of your posts are just insulting.

The only reason you come here is to argue and cause dissension. I feel sorry for you, but at the same time, I have no respect for you. You are a Troll!

Golfinho
05-27-21, 04:07
You're right. My bad. There have been so many race-baiting Republican Party campaign strategists playing on that sucker social issue to con the American electorate into voting for their consistently failed economic agenda at least since Nixon and right up to Trump I got Atwater's timeline mixed up.

But his admission about how Republicans used to do it more blatantly, by whatever name they called it, until he came along to do it in slightly more subtle ways to accomplish the exact same thing as his predecessors shows how interchangeable those strategists were anyway.

The next Republican presidental candidate will have a new strategist employing the same strategy regardless what his or her name is or what they call the strategy. That is, unless their latest strategy of simply making it harder for minorities in the big cities and typical Dem areas to vote or have their vote count anyway is so successful in the future there is no reason for them to hire a strategist, say anything or campaign at all.The 'strategy' has used (and now uses) race as an ancillary. Prior to the period in question, Democrats were seen as the Party of the working man, and Republicans the Party of the Country Club class. Replacing class consciousness with racial consciousness, or identity, or even outright racism is a desirable outcome for precluding development of a revolutionary outlook, the potential fatal threat to the capitalist system. The political game in America, as has been noted many times, is played between the forty-yard lines.

Race in America such as it is emerged from a convergence of specific historical factors. And, yes consanguinity is in various ways hardwired into human ethnic groups. Yet neither explains in and of itself the peculiar dynamic of Race in America.

Paulie97
05-27-21, 04:41
If you have all this proof, why has no court accepted it? Why has no Trump lawsuit alleged fraud? If you have all this proof, why haven't you sent it to Florida? Hey, I have proof that the moon is made out of cheese, too. I'll show you my evidence when Donnie wins his first fraud lawsuit.And is just more of the same race baiting, the false accusation that the blacks and browns stole the election. Then these guys claim they aren't racist, though the strategic continuity is clear. And the reason Trump was ahead on election night is because mail in ballots were counted last, per procedure. Everyone knows this, yet the same fallacies are repeated over and over, by Trump and the suckers he soaked for donations with the "stop the steal" movement. C'est La Vie.

Paulie97
05-27-21, 06:46
I did not violate Godwin's Law....Whenever anyone says something contrary to the Left's Orthodoxy they are accused of being racist.Yes you violated Godwin's Law as you've been in here squawking like Chicken Little for a month now, all while our country is trucking along fine without your guy's authoritarianism, stolen election lies, intimidation of election officials, incitements to violence, childish insults, overt racism, grifts, Nativism, Isolationism, Covid denialism, and late night tweets. It is your crowd that has wanted to shut down the discussion while attempting to overturn a election through dishonesty, corruption and force, and you call others Nazis? Yes, the whole practice of denying systemic racism, falsely accusing blacks and browns of stealing an election, going on about predominantly black urban areas in the matter of drug related crimes when whites were involved in the same in earlier periods of our history, voter suppression, is racist, and in the present context, often whataboutism. Ultimately everyone had their say and your side lost. Had it gone the other way I'm sure you'd be swaggering around with a very different demeanor.


You call the 2021 ("Summer of Love") rioting peaceful!.This is the first and surest sign of someone who has no argument, when he puts words in the mouths of his opponents. That is a caricature of what I said, and you know it. Recent BLM and otherwise race related protests have been largely peaceful. As is often the case there have been opportunists around the fringes, looting and the like. Articles were posted to demonstrate that very little of this activity has been linked to BLM members. And the Anarchists Antifa haven't killed anyone. Did Tucker Carlson tell you that? In fact when put against the extremists on your side of the spectrum over the last 25 years, the score is 329-0.

https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7

Not to mention that it's your guys that, according to Trump's DHS, represent our greatest domestic terrorist threat. Antifa didn't even make the report. Did Tucker or Hannity ever tell you that? Because the point is, in spite of all your crying about "the corporate media," you are feasting on some extremely slanted material from the corporations you deem reliable. If you want to get at the truth you have to do a lot more looking around, even to some primary sources. But if you are just an ideologue playing Chicken Little on the internet, then you aren't worth anyone's time, aside from some in the audience that may benefit from the content of the rebuttals written to you.


Yes there were arrests and then the authorities let everybody out of jail to riot again the next night."Everybody?" and by "the next night?" Prove it. Link your source. We have this thing called bail in this country, as well as standards of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. As a result many cases are dropped or pled before trial. Also a lot of them were probably smart enough not to take selfies and brag about their crimes on Facebook or to girls they were trying to score with in dating apps, like the lower strata of the crowds you like to draw.


Can you name left wing rioter who has been convicted of a crime and spent time in prison? I'm not doing all the work here. LOL You erect and knock down straw men, make a variety of claims without ever providing any sources. But go to Bing, search "Portland rioters sentenced" and you'll find at least one sent to prison and several felony cases that are open and working through the system. Go back at least two pages.


I love how you appropriate of the phrase, "the corporate media" and try to reserve it solely for Fox. Huh? Lolol You whine about "the corporate media" while supporting corporate media. Not all corporate media entities are left leaning, obviously, thus you are so caught up in reciting the terminology or "buzz words" of your crowd that you don't stop to think. There's more to life than Fox, Breitbart, News Max, or whatever your social media feeds think you'll like to hear.

Xpartan
05-27-21, 06:50
Your politics are a bit wobbly, buddy.

Didn't want to respond in the Rio thread 'cause we can do without distractions, but here goes.


Maybe this belongs more in a politics thread -- American politics or Brazilian politics -- but frankly, bolsonaro has gotten it right.Yes it does and no, he frankly hasn't. 450,000 dead souls beg to differ.


The man rides a bike. He's the real military man that Trump wanted to be.Nah, I like people who hadn't served the military junta that killed or disappeared hundreds of dissidents.


He beat Covid himself.Doctors didn't help? Not even a little?


The cure for this flu like "killer" is to go swim in the ocean and get sun at the beach and have a healthy diet to support an immune system.Again, 450,000 dead souls beg to differ.


The state is not supposed to be your nanny, your nurse, your boss, though the puritan eco green control freaks of north America and other rich world countries think it should be.What is state supposed to do then? Sit in a palace and act stately?

If the state isn't supposed to lead during a generational health crisis, I truly don't understand the function of the state. Or maybe you don't.


We have Brazil to thank for 8 dollar pussy in a world gone fucking crazy.Here we go. Best for the last!

Now, you've got my standing ovations!

Seriously, no sarcasm.

Paulie97
05-27-21, 07:48
1. Last first - $8 pussy is a pretty good indictment of him being a failure. If the country was successful the pussy would be a lot more expensive.True that!

Paulie97
05-27-21, 09:09
So, let's get real. Any of you leftist here want to defend Critical Race Theory (CRT) and the forced indoctrination of this modern left wing racism on innocent children (Black, White, Asian, Latino) in grade schools? Martin Luther King's dream of a colorblind society is dead in the Democratic Party. This is racism in America today. How about tell us about CRT, what all the curriculum contains. We do have a history in this country of placing certain stereotypes on blacks, as objects of scorn, jest, and inferiority, as this has been seen for ages in theater and pop culture. This all reinforces a white over black model. Examples? Minstrel shows, pickaninny tales, smiling black maids shaped as cookies jars and ash trays, and the many stereotypes that exist today, even the black criminal bit you claim to care about while ignoring that the vast majority are law abiding. I seriously doubt you know what CRT is, but show us that you do, tell us what you think is wrong with it, and most of all, cite sources. I can't emphasize that last point enough, given your propensity to make stuff up. And not surprisingly you misinterpret MLK. He was well aware that his I Have a Dream speech was a vision, an ideal. He also had a practical side and confronted racism head on. Read his book Why We Can't Wait for starters. Here's a brief explanation of CRT and the associated controversy.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/01/us/critical-race-theory-explainer-trnd/index.html


And oh yeah, black lives do not matter in the USA unless some moron gets himself killed by a white cop while resisting arrest. This is just gratuitous, and reflective of an angry guy lashing out. Personally I don't think you want any real discussion, or even any responses. You just want to type out lists, and vent your frustration here with loaded vitriol at the people you think are responsible for your unhappiness. Last I checked resisting arrest isn't a capital crime. And the only ones who can issue such an order would be a jury of 12. The evidence was heard and Chauvin was found guilty by a jury of his peers, and with many LE officers and specialists testifying against him.


The daily slaughter of black citizens in every major American city (all run by the Democratic Party Machine for the last 50 to 75 years) by black criminals; that is never mentioned in the Democratic Party and no Democrat Politician, black or white, gives a shit. That is racism in America today.These are lies as Democrats discuss these matters quite often. The issues are complicated, just as they were when the Irish and Italians were heavily involved in criminal gangs. You aren't talking about that though as it doesn't suit your agenda, which is to attack blacks and Democrats. These also were marginalized groups, were stereotyped, and called epithets. Many Democrats focus on addressing racism, improving education, expanding opportunity, thus reducing poverty, and thus less motivation toward crime. Nonetheless the lure of easy money will always be there just as it was during Prohibition. That said, the vast majority of blacks are law abiding and hard working, and do not live in poverty. That's the whole picture, while your talking points are lies and half-truths that lead to false, politically expedient conclusions. Of course no one should be surprised by that.


But go on boys, keep talking about those "racist" Republicans of 50 years ago.And this while you find relevance in the acts of Democrats during the slavery era? LOL It's back to the pot calling the kettle black, but I addressed that argument in another post. I came back for the above as I had some extra time. 50 years ago huh? Sadly the Repubs got a load of that going on in the here and now, which is covered in other posts. That especially holds true since Trump is holding the party hostage. And I'll add this, the more you forward these spurious arguments downplaying and denying racism, the more resistance you are going to encounter. That's just how it is. It's our country also, and we have votes and voices.

Vagabundo1
05-27-21, 10:11
And Lula was better?

This is the wrong site for politics probably.

But yeah at least in Brazil Bolsanaro can be a normal guy, tell ugly women they are ugly and he wouldn't have sex with them, and laugh it off.

The point of American politics is you have to look at ugly women and like it.


Seriously, no sarcasm.

Member #4698
05-27-21, 11:59
The guy still hasn't figured out that Fox News is part of a large corporation, as are a number of other conservative media outlets. But fuck, we can't let truth get in the way wingnut social media talking points. Wink.Hey Paulie,

Thanks for taking what I said out of context and distorting my point intentionally. But that is what you do. You & PVMonger.

I have gone back and skimmed through your last 200 out of 294 total posts and guess what? Just like with PVMonger's posts, there is not 1 post written by you about girls, picking up girls, or shagging girls. Not one! 98% of your posts are political and argumentative whether posted in this thread or the Colombia thread or the FKK Club thread. Approximately 2% of your posts are non-political, but this small number of posts are always comments about another member's contribution and nothing original in nature and most importantly nothing of value to anyone.

Canada
05-27-21, 15:50
The only people who believe that antifa are anti American are fascists.

Fascists hate democracy. Just like trump supporters (let's restrict the vote).

Fascists hate liberals. Just like trump supporters.

Fascists love totalitarian. Just like trump supporters.

Fascists love the wealthy. Just like trump supporters (trickle-down economics).

Fascists love the corporations. Just like trump supporters (trump 'tax cuts'.

Fascists love the military values. Just like trump supporters (don't rock the boat).

Fascists believe in one, all powerful cult-like leader. Just like trump supporters (duh).

Fascists love violence. Just like trump supporters (let's run over peaceful protesters like in Charlottesville).

Fascists love blaming others when things go wrong. Just like trump supporters (re: every trump speech).

Fascists hate intelligence. Just like trump supporters.

Fascists hate large cities. Just like trump supporters.

Fascists are misogynists. Just like trump supporters.All your description of Antifa is fiction in your twisted mind. The reality is that Antifa is a terrorist group destroying businesses and lives in USA. Burning flags and anti police. That is the reality of Antifa that cities like Portland, Minneapolis, New York and Seattle see every day. You don't acknowledge that in your fantasy life.

Paulie97
05-27-21, 18:16
That's it? That's all you got. "I am not Black. " That is racist. Do you even know what Critical Race Theory is?

But fuck me. I can't believe I didn't see it until now. Tonight, I finally became curious and suspicious about you, so I went back over most your posting history all the way to 8/11/2019 covering 125 of your total 198 posts on ISG and guess what? Although you know already what I am going to report: You have not made 1 worthwhile contribution on the subject of girls and sex!

So, I am calling you out. You are not a monger like the rest of us. You are a political troll! A political plant / troublemaker.

Here are the facts: out of 125 posts I found only 1 that even mentioned a girl and only 3 posts that were not political, but those 3 contained no information about "our" hobby. The rest of your posts dated from 8/11/2019 to the present are all political leftwing diatribes and arguments. You have had a few posts in the Colombia thread that have been deleted for their argumentative nature and I think a couple more likewise in the Mexico thread. By my count, therefore, since August 2019 you have posted 118 times out of the total of 125 posts in this thread and only this thread. All highly opinionated and argumentative. Many of your posts are just insulting.

The only reason you come here is to argue and cause dissension. I feel sorry for you, but at the same time, I have no respect for you. You are a Troll!Ad hominems aren't arguments. Nor does obsessively reading all his posts going back two years amount to any kind of arguments. And who are you of all people to complain about someone being "opinionated" or "argumentative?" That makes as much sense are your calling Democrats Nazis. And in case you didn't notice, this is an off topic political thread. So answer his political arguments instead of flailing in the air trying to hit the messenger.

Vagabundo1
05-27-21, 18:56
The main points are.

Covid was man made.

It came from China.

Taiwan is an independent country.

Covid is a smoke screen to take back Taiwan and advance China's further objectives.

American politics has been coopted by Marxists. Antifa, etc.


And Lula was better?

This is the wrong site for politics probably.

But yeah at least in Brazil Bolsanaro can be a normal guy, tell ugly women they are ugly and he wouldn't have sex with them, and laugh it off.

The point of American politics is you have to look at ugly women and like it.

Vagabundo1
05-27-21, 19:12
Xpartan,

I respect and like your posts on the rio mongering thread.

But I must respond with respect to economics.

There is one of the highest GINI indexes in Brazil, as in America. GINI is an index of disparity between wealth, rich and poor.

This is an indication that there is a free market at work.

8 dollar pussy is a good indication that the market is functioning, as it should. Capitalism in contrast to Marxism is a good thing, it is part of freedom.

The liberal, marxist leaning press is all in favor of the poorest being empowered as much as possible. Thats fine up to a point. The strength of a democracy, both Amrerica and Brazil is that they could both elect far ends of the spectrum, and change rule peacefully.


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PVMonger
05-27-21, 19:41
Hey Paulie,

Thanks for taking what I said out of context and distorting my point intentionally. But that is what you do. You & PVMonger.

I have gone back and skimmed through your last 200 out of 294 total posts and guess what? Just like with PVMonger's posts, there is not 1 post written by you about girls, picking up girls, or shagging girls. Not one! 98% of your posts are political and argumentative whether posted in this thread or the Colombia thread or the FKK Club thread. Approximately 2% of your posts are non-political, but this small number of posts are always comments about another member's contribution and nothing original in nature and most importantly nothing of value to anyone.In case you hadn't noticed, this is the "American Politics" section.

Paulie97
05-27-21, 19:47
Hey Paulie,

Thanks for taking what I said out of context and distorting my point intentionally. But that is what you do. You & PVMonger.

I have gone back and skimmed through your last 200 out of 294 total posts and guess what? Just like with PVMonger's posts, there is not 1 post written by you about girls, picking up girls, or shagging girls. Not one! 98% of your posts are political and argumentative whether posted in this thread or the Colombia thread or the FKK Club thread. Approximately 2% of your posts are non-political, but this small number of posts are always comments about another member's contribution and nothing original in nature and most importantly nothing of value to anyone.This is a lie. There are plenty of posts from myself from 2016 to 2019 on the Medellin thread in the Colombia forum regarding the scene there, especially in regard to the downtown / El Centro area. I invite anyone to go have a look. Though since the pandemic there have been a lot of posts on off topic threads such as this one as I haven't been traveling. But folks, back to the subject at hand, American Politics, what do we learn from this butthurt wingnut, from the above post and a similar one to PVMonger? Take him off his playing field and he's a fish out of water. Remove his butt out from in front of the television and Tucker Carlson Tonight, and place him in a venue where he's faced with well sourced facts and points of views counter to his self imposed indoctrination, and he comes unglued. Rather than doing some research to try and come with some decent rebuttals, something besides worn out and easily debunked loaded talking points, he instead stews and obsesses combing through years of post histories of the members that have challenged his pet political opinions. LOL Those of a similar political mindset as myself should feel very encouraged by this. Not only did we make our case to the American people and win, but the wingnuts are truly rattled. Such is the consequence of putting faith in a clown like Trump. And the more they want to deflect by bringing up the Anarchists, Antifa, the score remains 329 to 0, White Supremacists wining the day in kills over the last 25 years. It is no wonder that DHS determined them as our most lethal domestic terrorist threat.

https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf

PVMonger
05-27-21, 19:47
All your description of Antifa is fiction in your twisted mind. The reality is that Antifa is a terrorist group destroying businesses and lives in USA. Burning flags and anti police. That is the reality of Antifa that cities like Portland, Minneapolis, New York and Seattle see every day. You don't acknowledge that in your fantasy life.And yet right-wing terrorism is a far greater threat? The only people who don't believe that are (surprise, surprise) right-wing terrorists and Republicans.

Paulie97
05-27-21, 21:07
And yet right-wing terrorism is a far greater threat? The only people who don't believe that are (surprise, surprise) right-wing terrorists and Republicans.Proven time and time again here for at least six months now, with source citations and Trump's own DHS report, a report he tried to stop from publication. Yet it's only ignored while the same talking points are repeated ad nauseam. The little Trumps learned from their master well. Ignore, keep lying, cut on the cap key, and use exclamation marks in place of periods. Wink.

https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf

Member #4698
05-27-21, 22:11
This is a lie. There are plenty of posts from myself from 2016 to 2019 on the Medellin thread in the Colombia forum regarding the scene there, especially in regard to the downtown / El Centro area. I invite anyone to go have a look. I just did. A search of all your posts shows a total of 299 posts in 12 pages. I found no posts with your name on them describing the Medellin punting scene first hand or actual trip reports. Did the rest somehow mysteriously vanish?

If you have actually made any real contributions to the ISG forum as you claim, other than your political diatribes and rare comments about someone else's reportage, please post a link to them.

Paulie97
05-27-21, 22:35
I just did. A search of all your posts shows a total of 299 posts in 12 pages. I found no posts with your name on them describing the Medellin punting scene first hand or actual trip reports. .Once again this is false, and completely off topic. Though I hope you enjoyed your afternoon reading all of my posts since joining ISG. I'm also pleased to occupy so much space rent between your ears. This says a lot for my on topic posts on this thread.

Canada
05-28-21, 00:01
And yet right-wing terrorism is a far greater threat? The only people who don't believe that are (surprise, surprise) right-wing terrorists and Republicans.I agree there are some far right radicals but they are not anti USA, burning flags and terrorizing local businesses. Big difference.

Golfinho
05-28-21, 00:02
All your description of Antifa is fiction in your twisted mind. The reality is that Antifa is a terrorist group destroying businesses and lives in USA. Burning flags and anti police. That is the reality of Antifa that cities like Portland, Minneapolis, New York and Seattle see every day. You don't acknowledge that in your fantasy life.The reality is that Antifa is playing the role of proxy warriors. On behalf of who or for what remains to be seen.

The race-baiting is being done by controlled opposition. The bait was taken resulting in Charlottesville and The Storming of the Capitol.

There you have it. And we are down the rabbit hole.

Paulie97
05-28-21, 03:19
I just did. A search of all your posts shows a total of 299 posts in 12 pages. As of tonight, you and everyone else I've checked only has 12 pages of posts and about 299 total posts available in search, at least when you start by clicking on the member's handle. Yet you have close to 3000 posts here and were a member well in advance of last year, correct? So was I, though my last searchable post is from December 2020. I have 643 total as is seen in my profile so that's 344 unavailable by your report, pertinent as I haven't been on the ground in Medellin since my last searchable post from last year.

This apparently is a technical decision made by ISG if not a glitch, so you jumped the gun, and are free to apologize to PVMonger and myself. Then you are also welcome to get back on topic if you wish to discuss American politics.

Xpartan
05-28-21, 05:10
Xpartan,

I respect and like your posts on the rio mongering thread. That's mutual. Your latest post is a masterpiece, BTW, seriously.


But I must respond with respect to economics.

There is one of the highest GINI indexes in Brazil, as in America. GINI is an index of disparity between wealth, rich and poor.

This is an indication that there is a free market at work.But is it?

I didn't know much about GINI, so I looked it up. Turned out, not too many countries have GINI over 50. Angola, Guinea-Bissau, Namibia, Suriname, Zimbabwe in addition, of course, to our beloved Brazil. Are these shining examples of free market? Or are they a perfect example of corruption running amok? Did you see "O mecanismo"?


8 dollar pussy is a good indication that the market is functioning, as it should. Capitalism in contrast to Marxism is a good thing, it is part of freedom.

The liberal, marxist leaning press is all in favor of the poorest being empowered as much as possible. Thats fine up to a point. It never fails to crack me up when people talk Marxism, communism, socialism, as if they have any idea what they're talking about. I STUDIED Marxism (Leninism) and socialist economy. Where did you find "marxist" press in the US? Please don't say WaPo or CNN. Pretty please?

By the way, left-wingers have no idea either (Bernie and his example of Denmark -- fucking hell, what an embarrassment).

There is zero risk of Marxism or socialism ever happening in America. Americans and the West have been vaccinated in the 50-s. There is no socialism in the industrial world. Not in France or Belgium or Sweden or even Denmark. All those countries are free market economies. You're preaching to a choir.

Socialism ain't coming to our shores. Like ever.


The strength of a democracy, both Amrerica and Brazil is that they could both elect far ends of the spectrum, and change rule peacefully.That was the case until November 2020.

It's not the case anymore.

A group of people is adamantly refusing to accept that their guy lost the election despite all evidence, all inspections, all recounts, all court decisions and all the facts.

Sorry to say, senior Vagabundo, but those people come from your political end of the spectrum.

So much for peaceful changes, alas.

Sad!

Vagabundo1
05-28-21, 09:50
I am a Joe Rogan point on the spectrum.

Again, I highly respect your posts, which are insightful, up to and including the latest.

That said, I think you perhaps mis categorize me as being at one end.

Politics in America -- and in much of the world, to include Israel -- is a 48 - 48 - and 4 split.

In America, it is 48 democrat, 48 republican, and 4 in the middle, which I would submit to you is the Hillbilly elegy demographic, which was the swing vote in 2016, and the swing vote again in 2020. Hillbilly elegy is a wildly successful book, now a Netflix special for the ADD among us.

Joe Rogan is a -- indeed, the most successful -- podcaster, now on Spotify for a tidy 100 m. He famously moved from CA to TX, for reasons I entirely associate myself with, to use the language of the senate. Joe Rogan is on record as: Supporting Tulsi Gabbard because she is a veteran, among other reasons; for saying he would not vote for Biden because he has dementia; and for voting in fact for Joe Jorgenson, the libertarian candidate -- the 4%. That is pretty much where my politics are. As the saying goes, I voted with my feet, and voted in almost exactly the same way as Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan likes to interview Jocko Willink, who in turn has interviewed James Webb (jameswebb.com), a former Presidential Candidate in 2016.

At the risk of being a political chameleon, I am a Joe Rogan dude. I like country music, but one of my favorite Garth Brooks songs is "We Shall Be Free".

This ain't comin' from no prophet.

Just an ordinary man.

When I close my eyes I see, the way this world shall be.

When we all walk hand in hand.

When the last child cries for a crust of bread.

When the last man dies for just words that he said.

When there's shelter over the poorest head.

We shall be free.

When the last thing we notice is the color of skin.

And the first thing we look for is the beauty within.

When the skies and the oceans are clean again.

Then we shall be free.

We shall be free.

We shall be free.

Stand straight, walk proud.

'Cause we shall be free.

When we're free to love anyone we choose.

When this world's big enough for all different views.

When we all can worship from our own kind of pew.

Then we shall be free, yeah.

But, in contrast to most stereotypes of country music fans, I am a Garth Brooks liberal and agree with much of what Brooks -- one of the most successful poets in America, arguably -- writes in the above lyrics.

I see myself as a Christian -- albeit a terrible sinner. But I believe in the God of Spinoza, which you can also google, as did Einstein.

When Einstein gave lectures at USA Universities, the recurring question that students asked him most was:

- Do you believe in God?

And he always answered:

- I believe in the God of Spinoza.

Baruch de Spinoza was a Dutch philosopher considered one of the great rationalists of 17th century philosophy, along with Descartes.

(Spinoza) : God would say:

Stop praying.

What I want you to do is go out into the world and enjoy your life. I want you to sing, have fun and enjoy everything I've made for you.

Stop going into those dark, cold temples that you built yourself and saying they are my house. My house is in the mountains, in the woods, rivers, lakes, beaches. That's where I live and there I express my love for you.

Stop blaming me for your miserable life; I never told you there was anything wrong with you or that you were a sinner, or that your sexuality was a bad thing. Sex is a gift I have given you and with which you can express your love, your ecstasy, your joy. So don't blame me for everything they made you believe.

Stop reading alleged sacred scriptures that have nothing to do with me. If you can't read me in a sunrise, in a landscape, in the look of your friends, in your son's eyes. ➤ you will find me in no book!

Stop asking me "will you tell me how to do my job?" Stop being so scared of me. I do not judge you or criticize you, nor get angry, or bothered. I am pure love.

Stop asking for forgiveness, there's nothing to forgive. If I made you. I filled you with passions, limitations, pleasures, feelings, needs, inconsistencies. Free will. How can I blame you if you respond to something I put in you? How can I punish you for being the way you are, if I'm the one who made you? Do you think I could create a place to burn all my children who behave badly for the rest of eternity? What kind of god would do that?

Respect your peers and don't do what you don't want for yourself. All I ask is that you pay attention in your life, that alertness is your guide.

My beloved, this life is not a test, not a step on the way, not a rehearsal, nor a prelude to paradise. This life is the only thing here and now and it is all you need.

I have set you absolutely free, no prizes or punishments, no sins or virtues, no one carries a marker, no one keeps a record.

You are absolutely free to create in your life. Heaven or hell.

I can't tell you if there's anything after this life but I can give you a tip. Live as if there is not. As if this is your only chance to enjoy, to love, to exist.

So, if there's nothing after, then you will have enjoyed the opportunity I gave you. And if there is, rest assured that I won't ask if you behaved right or wrong, I'll ask. Did you like it? Did you have fun? What did you enjoy the most? What did you learn?.

Stop believing in me; believing is assuming, guessing, imagining. I don't want you to believe in me, I want you to believe in you. I want you to feel me in you when you kiss your beloved, when you tuck in your little girl, when you caress your dog, when you bathe in the sea.

Stop praising me, what kind of egomaniac God do you think I am?

I'm bored being praised. I'm tired of being thanked. Feeling grateful? Prove it by taking care of yourself, your health, your relationships, the world. Express your joy! That's the way to praise me.

Stop complicating things and repeating as a parakeet what you've been taught about me.

What do you need more miracles for? So many explanations?

The only thing for sure is that you are here, that you are alive, that this world is full of wonders.

- Spinoza.

My view is that Joe Rogan would agree with both the Country Music of Garth Brooks and the God of Spinoza as Einstein saw it.

Now, as to Marxism, I can cite several sources which argue that there is a marxist attack on American institutions including the military. There is a book by a US Air Force LtCol Lohmeir, see.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/outsted-space-force-playbook-marxism-tucker-carlson-today

On this same intellectual thread, there is a letter by 100+ retired American generals and admirals making the same argument.

So, while the likelihood of Marxism succeeding in taking over America is perhaps slim, what we only really need to see is enough of a victory by the marxists for America to lose the reserve currency status of the US Dollar (see eichengreen, exorbitant privilege).

There is an excellent review of the eichengreen book on economist.com which I commend to we few, we happy few mongers.

Which brings me back to our common topic, mongering.

My view as a economist, such that I am, is to agree with economist.com on the subject of mongering, P4 P, etc. You can find the economist.com argument in favor of prostitution. I don't need to link to it.

So, my argument that Brazil is a great country because it has porn star quality hot dogfartnetwork wefuckblackgirlsdotcom quality negras and latinas at the price point of 8 USD for 10 minutes, just enough to shower it, wrap it, and bust a nut in a bent over bunda is within that context. It is illegal in puritanical (the opposite of the god of Spinoza) America. It may be legal in parts of Euroland, but at a higher price point. It can be had in 'merica, but for Ana Foxxx, it is like 1000 USD, and for a shitty, controlled experience, or for similarly inflated prices.

So, I conclude: I am a Joe Rogan middle 4 % swing voter in terms of my view of this topic, American politics.


Sorry to say, senior Vagabundo, but those people come from your political end of the spectrum.

So much for peaceful changes, alas.

Sad!

D Cups
05-28-21, 13:19
Hey Paulie,

Thanks for taking what I said out of context and distorting my point intentionally. But that is what you do. You & PVMonger.

I have gone back and skimmed through your last 200 out of 294 total posts and guess what? Just like with PVMonger's posts, there is not 1 post written by you about girls, picking up girls, or shagging girls. Not one! 98% of your posts are political and argumentative whether posted in this thread or the Colombia thread or the FKK Club thread. Approximately 2% of your posts are non-political, but this small number of posts are always comments about another member's contribution and nothing original in nature and most importantly nothing of value to anyone.Hi Natty,

Do not expect any intelligence from any of these liberal idiots. They all stupidly voted for the Clintons, Obama and now Biden so anything they say about anything is suspect at best and more than likely completely twisted like all the fake news they feed their feeble minds with. Mark my words they are turning the USA into a shithole and that is why I am leaving USA for good to live in the Philippines upper class with my gorgeous, busty, intelligent fiancé'. Cheers, mate.

PVMonger
05-28-21, 13:30
I agree there are some far right radicals but they are not anti USA, burning flags and terrorizing local businesses. Big difference.Guess what? Flag burning is constitutionally protected free speech as defined by the First Amendment to the Constitution.

And yes, right-wing-wingnuts are anti-USA because they are against "all men are created equal". How do I know this? Because there are no blacks, browns, yellows, reds, Jews, Muslims etc. That belong. And as much as you and virtually every other Republican would like to deny it, non-white and non-protestant people are Americans.

Elvis 2008
05-28-21, 19:22
A group of people is adamantly refusing to accept that their guy lost the election despite all evidence, all inspections, all recounts, all court decisions and all the facts.

Sorry to say, senior Vagabundo, but those people come from your political end of the spectrum.

So much for peaceful changes, alas.

Sad!What "facts" are you talking about Xpartan? The head of Fulton County elections is a hack who previously kicked out Republican observers four years before his stint in Fulton County. He kicked out a Republican judge before!

Now he goes to Fulton County. There is a fucking video of a woman telling everyone to go home and people are on the video putting tarps over the ballot boxes. Four people stay behind. Republican observers leave the vote counting area. These four pull out ballot boxes and run ballots through the machine.

The Republican observers go to a centralized station. They see the area where they left still has votes being counted. They go back to that station and 2 hours has passed.

None of this is disputed.

Given the speed with which the machines counted the votes, it is possible that the ballots ran during that time frame could have given Biden Georgia.

When a Republican observer objected to questionable ballots from a long term facility that went 55 to 1 for Biden, she was rebuffed and no recount or vote verification was implemented. After filing a complaint, she was fired.

Were the four people who hung around Fulton County deposed? Fuck no!

A judge said those people who filed suit against Fulton County did not have standing to file suit and any potential issues with the election should have been addressed before hand. That is a judge punting not declaring no fraud occurred.

So what were those vote totals? You do not know, and I do not know. The difference between us is I care about the integrity of the election, and you do not give a fuck which means you are completely compromised, lying, POS Democratic douche.

Here you go lying about an "inspection". What were the vote totals when those four vote counters ran ballots through the machine without Republican observers? You don't know, and I don't know. So quit with your fucking lying bullshit. Recounting potentially fraudulent ballots does not mean an election was fair.

Member #4698
05-28-21, 20:54
Hi Natty,

Do not expect any intelligence from any of these liberal idiots. They all stupidly voted for the Clintons, Obama and now Biden so anything they say about anything is suspect at best and more than likely completely twisted like all the fake news they feed their feeble minds with. Mark my words they are turning the USA into a shithole and that is why I am leaving USA for good to live in the Philippines upper class with my gorgeous, busty, intelligent fianc'. Cheers, mate.DCups, I totally agree with you. The radical Woke are destroying the USA and I can't believe how fast the takeover is occurring. But before these fools took over high tech, the corporate media, the education system, the streets of our major cities and poor demented Joe Biden; I thought retiring in southern Thailand, Cambodia, or the PI would be just fine, but if this Leftwing coup is successful and they cement their control over everyone, everything including the Supreme Court and the Constitution, we can kiss good bye all our freedom and I think we will all need to get different passports fast / change citizenship because being just a resident expat in some friendly foreign country will not be enough to live free if you are an American citizen. For example, a leftwing controlled fascist IRS will come after our assets no matter where we reside as long as we are American citizens. A left wing-controlled judiciary and police force will come after us for sex crimes (fucking young local girls for money). We will all be political refugees.

So, my top 2 friendly, welcoming, refuge safe countries are Australia and Costa Rica, but both countries require a 4-year residency before citizenship is granted. That is why this next election in 2022 is critical. If we do not take back the House and keep the Senate, we will lose our country forever. The situation is that serious.

John Clayton
05-28-21, 21:18
What "facts" are you talking about Xpartan? The head of Fulton County elections is a hack who previously kicked out Republican observers four years before his stint in Fulton County. He kicked out a Republican judge before!..What so you suppose the percentage of persons on this forum who are conspiratorial thinkers vs. The general population? In my normal life, I don't run into very little of this, but maybe that's because of the zipcode I live in.

Vagabundo1
05-28-21, 21:49
https://youtu.be/S0tFgPG26vA

This explains exactly the middle of the spectrum where I'm with joe Rogan.


I am a Joe Rogan point on the spectrum.

Again, I highly respect your posts, which are insightful, up to and including the latest.

That said, I think you perhaps mis categorize me as being at one end.

Politics in America -- and in much of the world, to include Israel -- is a 48 - 48 - and 4 split.

In America, it is 48 democrat, 48 republican, and 4 in the middle, which I would submit to you is the Hillbilly elegy demographic, which was the swing vote in 2016, and the swing vote again in 2020. Hillbilly elegy is a wildly successful book, now a Netflix special for the ADD among us.

Joe Rogan is a -- indeed, the most successful -- podcaster, now on Spotify for a tidy 100 m. He famously moved from CA to TX, for reasons I entirely associate myself with, to use the language of the senate. Joe Rogan is on record as: Supporting Tulsi Gabbard because she is a veteran, among other reasons; for saying he would not vote for Biden because he has dementia; and for voting in fact for Joe Jorgenson, the libertarian candidate -- the 4%.

EihTooms
05-29-21, 02:47
Hi Natty,

Do not expect any intelligence from any of these liberal idiots. They all stupidly voted for the Clintons, Obama and now Biden so anything they say about anything is suspect at best and more than likely completely twisted like all the fake news they feed their feeble minds with. Mark my words they are turning the USA into a shithole and that is why I am leaving USA for good to live in the Philippines upper class with my gorgeous, busty, intelligent fianc'. Cheers, mate.I live a fun and comfortable retired life in Thailand. Been here since 2012. You just named two of the four presidents during my working life whose policies produced the positive economic expansion, jobs creation, stock market gains and property value appreciation that helped make this life for me possible starting at a relatively young age (for retirement); Clinton and Obama. That and being lucky enough to have smart adult relatives who got us out of a losing Red state when I was a kid and into California where, thankfully, I bought property.

The other two presidents during my working life whose economic policies I credit with contributing significantly to my happy retirement were LBJ and Carter. All Dems. I guess my strong recommendation to any American worker wanting a happy, financially comfortable retirement is vote Democrat and buy in California.

The Republican presidents in between were not worth shit in that regard since voting for and betting on Great USA Recessions/Depressions, deep and serious stock and housing market crashes, massive job losses and whatever other "Once in 100 Years Disaster!" Republicans invariable manage to find, embrace and develope at every opportunity is not my style. In fact, their policies contributed nothing but drag and loss to my situation. I would be way, way ahead on that count had they never been elected.

Biden has not been president long enough for me to see if or how his policies will effect my financial life. But it is certain he will be a far more positive influence than Trump was. Lol. Major understatement there.

BTW, Biden does not have dementia. Zero evidence of it. What you are hearing in his occasional verbal bobbles is his way of overcoming a tendency to stutter, a lifelong affliction. When he hits a word in a sentence that he instantly identifies as a potential stutter trigger he just as instantly replaces it with a perfectly acceptable alternate word or words and continues on with the meaning and message of that sentence. He is actually quite brilliant at it considering the kind of specialized grammar his chosen vocation requires.

That is not something anyone with dementia could do. I mean, it isn't like he gets stuck in a mental and verbal dead end trying to say ordinary words like "origins" or "anonymous" and can't stop saying "oranges, oranges" and "anominous, anominous" instead, among many others, the way Trump does.

Covfefe!

Chris P
05-29-21, 02:59
And Lula was better?

This is the wrong site for politics probably.

But yeah at least in Brazil Bolsanaro can be a normal guy, tell ugly women they are ugly and he wouldn't have sex with them, and laugh it off.

The point of American politics is you have to look at ugly women and like it.As the old saying goes, politics is showbiz for ugly people.

Chris P
05-29-21, 03:02
And yet right-wing terrorism is a far greater threat? The only people who don't believe that are (surprise, surprise) right-wing terrorists and Republicans.Dude,

How many cities did "right-wing terrorists" burn and loot last year? Did "right-wing terrorists" set up armed autonomous zones from which police were banned and in which fascism was the law? Nope. That was all far-left antifa communists. Try and look at reality, rather than fake news agenda.

Chris P
05-29-21, 03:14
The other two presidents during my working life whose economic policies I credit with contributing significantly to my happy retirement were LBJ and Carter. I guess my strong recommendation to any American worker wanting a happy, financially comfortable retirement is vote Democrat and buy in California.

BTW, Biden does not have dementia. Zero evidence of it. What you are hearing in his occasional verbal bobbles is his way of overcoming a tendency to stutter, a lifelong affliction. When he hits a word in a sentence that he instantly identifies as a potential stutter trigger he just as instantly replaces it with a perfectly acceptable alternate word and continues on with the meaning and message of that sentence. He is actually quite brilliant at it considering the kind of specialized grammar his chosen vocation requires.California? You were lucky to move there decades ago when it was solidly Republican (Nixon and Reagan were governors) or in the immediate aftermath. The California of today, after decades of third world migration turned it democrat, is a shithole. If you buy there now, particularly as a white man, you stand to lose your home to some wacky new "affirmation action reparations racial justice", or in the best case scenario get utterly annihilated by taxes. This stuff, along with the homeless and their needles and shit in the streets, are among the reasons so many Americans are leaving California. And the fact that it elected Kamala Harris, a white-hating, man-hating diversity hire nonentity who literally got her break by fucking and sucking the married mayor of San Francisco 30 years her senior.

As for Biden's so-called stutter. It's bullshit. Watch his speeches from the 80's and 90's. He speaks perfectly clearly. What he says is stupid of course, but he says it without any hint of a stutter. This whole story was invented by his handlers and pushed by the fake news to try and hide the fact that he is a senile old man whose brain is mush.

GDreams
05-29-21, 04:58
California? You were lucky to move there decades ago when it was solidly Republican (Nixon and Reagan were governors) or in the immediate aftermath. The California of today, after decades of third world migration turned it democrat, is a shithole. If you buy there now, particularly as a white man, you stand to lose your home to some wacky new "affirmation action reparations racial justice", or in the best case scenario get utterly annihilated by taxes. This stuff, along with the homeless and their needles and shit in the streets, are among the reasons so many Americans are leaving California. And the fact that it elected Kamala Harris, a white-hating, man-hating diversity hire nonentity who literally got her break by fucking and sucking the married mayor of San Francisco 30 years her senior.California, The powerhouse economy of the US. Since 2009 it has been the No1 GDP growth state in the US. Why? Good health system, good education, skilled workforce, good infrastructure, good access to Asia and good governance. Makes a mockery of the right wingers constant whinging about California that this socialist bastion keeps blowing the redneck states out of the water in economic performance!

Xpartan
05-29-21, 05:03
I am a Joe Rogan point on the spectrum.

Again, I highly respect your posts, which are insightful, up to and including the latest.

That said, I think you perhaps mis categorize me as being at one end.If I have, my apologies.

America is so tribal today, it would be funny if it weren't so sad. We all get caught up in this endless and idiotic war of words. An Uber driver makes a dumb political remark, then studies my reaction in the mirror.

WTF!

Anyway, I always enjoy reading your stuff and hope to see you in person soon.

Cheers!

PVMonger
05-29-21, 13:45
What "facts" are you talking about Xpartan? The head of Fulton County elections is a hack who previously kicked out Republican observers four years before his stint in Fulton County. He kicked out a Republican judge before!

Now he goes to Fulton County. There is a fucking video of a woman telling everyone to go home and people are on the video putting tarps over the ballot boxes. Four people stay behind. Republican observers leave the vote counting area. These four pull out ballot boxes and run ballots through the machine.

The Republican observers go to a centralized station. They see the area where they left still has votes being counted. They go back to that station and 2 hours has passed.

None of this is disputed.

Given the speed with which the machines counted the votes, it is possible that the ballots ran during that time frame could have given Biden Georgia.https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/12/04/no-atlanta-didnt-count-ballots-in-secret-or-in-suitcases/?sh=edb7e14e5a42.

You don't care one iota about the integrity of the election. If you did, you'd ask questions like "Can we trust the down-ballot vote counts?" or "How come there's no fraud in Houston, Columbus, etc? In truth, all you really care about is perpetuating "the election was stolen" nonsense.

EihTooms
05-29-21, 14:52
California? You were lucky to move there decades ago when it was solidly Republican (Nixon and Reagan were governors) or in the immediate aftermath. The California of today, after decades of third world migration turned it democrat, is a shithole. If you buy there now, particularly as a white man, you stand to lose your home to some wacky new "affirmation action reparations racial justice", or in the best case scenario get utterly annihilated by taxes. This stuff, along with the homeless and their needles and shit in the streets, are among the reasons so many Americans are leaving California. And the fact that it elected Kamala Harris, a white-hating, man-hating diversity hire nonentity who literally got her break by fucking and sucking the married mayor of San Francisco 30 years her senior.

As for Biden's so-called stutter. It's bullshit. Watch his speeches from the 80's and 90's. He speaks perfectly clearly. What he says is stupid of course, but he says it without any hint of a stutter. This whole story was invented by his handlers and pushed by the fake news to try and hide the fact that he is a senile old man whose brain is mush.I moved there in the early 1960's when (D)Pat Brown was Governor and bought in late 1999 when (D)Gray Davis was Governor. The only time my property underperformed was when (R)Schwarzenegger was Governor. But then, that also was during the (R)George W. Bush presidential years so it is hard to say which one was producing the crap economy. Probably both.

I am not surprised that Biden was even better at compensating for his stutter 40 years ago. I'm guessing everyone is better at delivering speeches at 38 than they are at 78. Doesn't mean they have dementia though.

Oh, speaking of senile old men with mush for brains, this is a link for one of a series of videos called "Trump's Best Words". This link is for the 2019 edition. Hilarious! Sometimes these posted links don't work. Sorry about that. But just do a YouTube search for them under that name.

https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

LOL. There are a few of them at about 3-4 minutes each. I don't think you could find even one 3 minute video of as many flubbed and godknowswhat words coming out of Biden's mouth culled from his entire time in politics. Yet, that Trump video series is just from when he was a one-term, twice Impeached so-called potus.

Mursenary
05-29-21, 15:53
California? You were lucky to move there decades ago when it was solidly Republican (Nixon and Reagan were governors)

The California of today, after decades of third world migration turned it democrat, is a shithole.

as a white man, you stand to lose your home to some wacky new "affirmation action reparations racial justice",

it elected Kamala Harris, a white-hating, man-hating diversity hire nonentity who literally got her break by fucking and sucking

As for Biden's so-called stutter. It's bullshit. Lost credibility at "Nixon was governor (of California)". Think he lost an election to Pat Brown once, 2 years after he lost the Presidency to JFK. Alternate reality perhaps?

Chris P
05-29-21, 15:54
I moved there in the early 1960's when (D)Pat Brown was Governor and bought in late 1999 when (D)Gray Davis was Governor. The only time my property underperformed was when (R)Schwarzenegger was Governor. But then, that also was during the (R)George W. Bush presidential years so it is hard to say which one was producing the crap economy. Probably both.

I am not surprised that Biden was even better at compensating for his stutter 40 years ago. I'm guessing everyone is better at delivering speeches at 38 than they are at 78. Doesn't mean they have dementia though.
California has gone from undoubtedly the best place in the world when you moved there (when it was 90% white and mostly Republican, and the Democrats who did get elected were not insane low IQ white-hating communist diversity hire Kamala Harris types) to a literal 3rd world literal shithole (shit all over the streets from the homeless bums) with a tiny Silicon Valley / Hollywood elite and vast mass of serfs, from which normal heritage Americans are fleeing en masse to avoid being attacked and punished both by the elite and the third world mass, both of which hate them.

If Biden had a stutter, show me a single video, from his election to the senate in 1972 right up to when he was VP, in which he stutters. There are none, because he doesn't stutter. Not "compensating" or whatever BS you're talking. And his problems now are not that he can't say a word; it is that he just trails off and forgets what he was supposed to say. You can see the vacant, lost look in his eyes.

D Cups
05-29-21, 16:56
I moved there in the early 1960's when (D)Pat Brown was Governor and bought in late 1999 when (D)Gray Davis was Governor. The only time my property underperformed was when (R)Schwarzenegger was Governor. But then, that also was during the (R)George W. Bush presidential years so it is hard to say which one was producing the crap economy. Probably both.

I am not surprised that Biden was even better at compensating for his stutter 40 years ago. I'm guessing everyone is better at delivering speeches at 38 than they are at 78. Doesn't mean they have dementia though.

Oh, speaking of senile old men with mush for brains, this is a link for one of a series of videos called "Trump's Best Words". This link is for the 2019 edition. Hilarious! Sometimes these posted links don't work. Sorry about that. But just do a YouTube search for them under that name.

https://youtu.be/UE9BXkQ-SRc

LOL. There are a few of them at about 3-4 minutes each. I don't think you could find even one 3 minute video of as many flubbed and godknowswhat words coming out of Biden's mouth culled from his entire time in politics. Yet, that Trump video series is just from when he was a one-term, twice Impeached so-called potus.Actions speak louder than words, numb nuts.

Paulie97
05-29-21, 22:44
Dude,

How many cities did "right-wing terrorists" burn and loot last year? Did "right-wing terrorists" set up armed autonomous zones from which police were banned and in which fascism was the law? Nope. That was all far-left antifa communists. Try and look at reality, rather than fake news agenda.Dude,

Last I checked Portland is standing and was hardly burned to the ground, so we can skip the hyperbole. Also your typical Antifa member follows Anarchism, an ideology very different from Communism. Fascism is also distinctly different from Communism though you call them both in the same breath. You simply aren't educated, and it would be too generous to call such the product of fake wingnut news, but is more likely only from grasping at straws at whatever however contradictory social media posts you find appealing.

Also how many people have Antifa members killed? What about White Supremacists? As of now considering the last 25 year the latter has a lead of 329-0.

https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7

And once again White Supremacists represent our greatest domestic terrorist threat, according to Trump's DHS in a 10/2020 report, a report he tried to stop from publication. Antifa wasn't even mentioned.

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf

Last but not least, let's not forget the "right-wing extremists" at the Capital, Camp Auschwitz shirts, bombs, zip ties, beating police officers to death while trying to stop an electoral college count. Nor sir, don't leave that one out.

Wingnut extremists are the much greater threat. No amount of whining about fake news, big tech, or "the corporate media" excluding Fox of course while swimming head first in your own sea of propaganda will make these facts go away. Nor will ignoring rebuttals and repeating the same fallacies over and over in a monger forum. Though many have been trying this method for a very long time.

Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone.

Chris P
05-29-21, 23:24
Lost credibility at "Nixon was governor (of California)". Think he lost an election to Pat Brown onceMy bad, Nixon won the California Senate election of 1950, and won the state in the presidential elections of 1960, 1968 and 1972, but he did indeed lose the 1962 gubernatorial election. An early case of leftwing media bias, back when people believed what they saw and read in the media. And of course, Pat Brown wasn't advocating open borders, defunding the police, disarming the population, and ranting about "white supremacy", whatever that is.

EihTooms
05-30-21, 01:13
Actions speak louder than words, numb nuts.[Deleted by Admin] And most Americans agree. Hell, even the FOX News and Rasmussen polls have Biden's Job Approval Rating at 54% and 55% with a consensus of the RCP polls at a high that incoherent blathering Trump never achieved but so very much wished for. Unfortunately for him, they were not rating his ability to sit in a golf cart and tweet only marginally more coherent but easily debunked lies.

EihTooms
05-30-21, 01:58
California has gone from undoubtedly the best place in the world when you moved there (when it was 90% white and mostly Republican, and the Democrats who did get elected were not insane low IQ white-hating communist diversity hire Kamala Harris types) to a literal 3rd world literal shithole (shit all over the streets from the homeless bums) with a tiny Silicon Valley / Hollywood elite and vast mass of serfs, from which normal heritage Americans are fleeing en masse to avoid being attacked and punished both by the elite and the third world mass, both of which hate them.

If Biden had a stutter, show me a single video, from his election to the senate in 1972 right up to when he was VP, in which he stutters. There are none, because he doesn't stutter. Not "compensating" or whatever BS you're talking. And his problems now are not that he can't say a word; it is that he just trails off and forgets what he was supposed to say. You can see the vacant, lost look in his eyes.His compensating techniques were already established before he entered public life. Of course.

Show me the videos of Biden trailing off and forgetting what he was going to say. The videos I have seen claiming to show that are of him realizing he was about to go on a tangent on a side issue, a lengthy story and talk too much, something he was roundly criticized for in the past and he has tried to curtail. Instead he gets back to the point of his remark and closes it. Or they are deceptively edited videos to make it look that way. They are not of him getting lost, forgetting what he was going to say or with a vacant stare.

Some may remember the time in an earlier presidential nomination run where the first question he was asked at a debate was if he would be able to shorten his replies and not go on and on with overly detailed and side issue responses. His one word answer, "Yes", was the funniest and most memorable hit of the debate. He learned from those years so now he catches himself to avoid sliding back into an old habit.

By contrast, those "Trump's Best Words" videos are not deceptively edited to make it look like Trump is not aware of his repeated incoherent thinking and blathering. He really is aware of it. But he assumes his devoted audience is too stupid to notice or care and doesn't have enough honesty and regard for them to simply say, "excuse me, I meant to say..."

Paulie97
05-30-21, 02:00
EihTooms,

And thank you for citing sources, something we see almost none of from the conservative minded mongers among us.

Paulie97
05-30-21, 02:54
Show me the videos of Biden trailing off and forgetting what he was going to say. The videos I have seen claiming to show that are of him realizing he was about to go on a tangent on a side issue, a lengthy story and talk too much, something he was roundly criticized for in the past and he has tried to curtail. Instead he gets back to the point of his remark and closes it. Or they are deceptively edited videos to make it look that way. They are not of him getting lost, forgetting what he was going to say or with a vacant stare.You aren't going to get any source citations, links, Youtubes or proof of anything or the like from ChrisP. Just Chicken Little esque woe is me, white victimization the sky is falling rants, overt Anti-Semitism, long debunked and discredited stolen election dogma, and other lies and misleading half-truths that others are left to unravel. Of course none of that is surprising given where we are, or for anyone that has had conversations with angry wingnuts around overseas mongering watering holes, but don't expect any sources or analysis of the same. It simply isn't in the DNA.

Paulie97
05-30-21, 06:42
If some would take a few minutes to do a bit of research rather than just swallow hook, line, and sinker everything Hannity, Tucker, and other right wing media drama queens tell them, they might become acquainted with some balance and reality. So for emphasis I'll pose the questions again, how many people has Antifa killed in the last 25 years? Zero, zilch, cero. And how many people have White Supremacist extremists killed in the same time frame? 329. Now we move, from Media Matters:

"But while both the administration and Fox's hosts are suggesting that the entire city is under siege, the reality is far more prosaic. 'The images that populate national media feeds, however, come almost exclusively from a tiny point of the city: a 12-block area surrounding the Justice Center and federal courthouse,' The Oregonian reported. 'And they occur exclusively during late-night hours in which only a couple hundred or fewer protesters and scores of police officers are out in the city's coronavirus-hollowed downtown. ' The paper explained that that's when 'tensions flare,' as a 'small number' of demonstrators 'poke and prod officers to engage,' and the officers respond by using 'tear gas, foam-tipped projectiles and other munitions' to disperse the crowd. ".

I'll be damned. From listening to all the Chicken Littles you'd think that the city of Portland no longer exists, that the entire city limits is nothing but rubble and flames. Lolol.

https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/fox-news-fuels-trumps-dangerous-portland-law-and-order-strategy

Here another article so entitled:

Feds, right-wing media paint Portland as 'city under siege. ' A tour of town shows otherwise.

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/07/feds-right-wing-media-paint-portland-as-city-under-siege-a-tour-of-town-shows-otherwise.html

These exaggerations were all part of Trump's re-election strategy, law and order, race card as always, with the implication that unruly blacks were coming to the burbs to rape their daughters and kill everyone. This was in hopes of saving enough of the suburban midwestern voters he needed in spite of showing his ass constantly, bungling the pandemic and delivering little in the way of industrial jobs to the region. It didn't work though while he was completely made a fool of January 6th.

Mdemde
05-30-21, 13:23
Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone."Memorial Day is a federal holiday in the United States for honoring and mourning the military personnel who have died in the performance of their military duties while serving in the United States Armed Forces. The holiday is observed on the last Monday of May. " (Wikipedia).

Well done Paulie for mentioning the reason for the holiday. Yes tomorrow is Memorial Day, Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone.

The VP, who tweeted "Enjoy the long weekend" seems to have forgotten this and has made it all about herself.

Vagabundo1
05-30-21, 13:48
Never going to be president.


"Memorial Day is a federal holiday in the United States for honoring and mourning the military personnel who have died in the performance of their military duties while serving in the United States Armed Forces. The holiday is observed on the last Monday of May. " (Wikipedia).

Well done Paulie for mentioning the reason for the holiday. Yes tomorrow is Memorial Day, Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone.

The VP, who tweeted "Enjoy the long weekend" seems to have forgotten this and has made it all about herself.

Golfinho
05-30-21, 14:25
Last I checked You simply aren't educated, And once again White Supremacists represent our greatest domestic terrorist threatLast we checked, your bogeymen white supremacists exist exclusively as a figment of your imagination and as a projection of your fears. Have they formulated and articulated their supremacist program, you know, a gamatria where they brand all their enemies as Esau and Amalek and consign them to extermination in the world to come?

The reality is there is no left-right conflict. The battle is waged by the Center against whichever the Left or Right is deemed the greater threat to its hegemony. Anyone recollect the mid-60's to early 70's where the government was hunting down Leftists and Black Panthers? When they murdered Fred Hampton for having the audacity to stand up for his people? Fast forward and now we have the Center pushing back against the Right. Same process, just keeping the play inside the forty-yard lines.

PVMonger
05-30-21, 14:41
My bad, Nixon won the California Senate election of 1950, and won the state in the presidential elections of 1960, 1968 and 1972, but he did indeed lose the 1962 gubernatorial election. An early case of leftwing media bias, back when people believed what they saw and read in the media. And of course, Pat Brown wasn't advocating open borders, defunding the police, disarming the population, and ranting about "white supremacy", whatever that is.Since you obviously believe what you write as gospel, why not back it up with sources?

Please post a link to any US politician saying that they wanted "Open borders". The politician must use the specific words "I support open borders".

Please post a link to any legislation in the us that has physically removed guns from the population.

I guarantee that you can find neither.

As to your "white supremacy, whatever that is" remark, the only thing I can say is that the only people who don't know what "white supremacy" is are "white supremacists".

Paulie97
05-30-21, 20:23
"Memorial Day is a federal holiday in the United States for honoring and mourning the military personnel who have died in the performance of their military duties while serving in the United States Armed Forces. The holiday is observed on the last Monday of May. " (Wikipedia).

Well done Paulie for mentioning the reason for the holiday. Yes tomorrow is Memorial Day, Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone.

The VP, who tweeted "Enjoy the long weekend" seems to have forgotten this and has made it all about herself.Since when is wishing ones twitter followers a good time ahead of a long weekend entirely selfish? As usual there are parties and cookouts all over the place. Yea failure to mention Memorial Day was a mistake that was corrected in a follow up tweet. Is regrettable that Trump hasn't taken any responsibility for his draft dodge, coercion & intimidation of election officials, and his role in the January 6th insurrection, all extremely disrespectful to American principles and especially our fallen heroes. Strain out gnats, swallow camels, that is wingnut media.

P.S. Do also enjoy your long weekend. I'm definitely enjoying mine.

Paulie97
05-30-21, 20:50
Since you obviously believe what you write as gospel, why not back it up with sources?

Please post a link to any US politician saying that they wanted "Open borders". The politician must use the specific words "I support open borders".

Please post a link to any legislation in the us that has physically removed guns from the population.

I guarantee that you can find neither.

As to your "white supremacy, whatever that is" remark, the only thing I can say is that the only people who don't know what "white supremacy" is are "white supremacists".As you surely noticed his arguments are very basic, barstool bigotry, the Jews this, the blacks and browns that, the sky is falling, etc. These are the simplistic and misleading themes Trump used to establish his base of which he is one. There are no sources for any of this besides wingnut blogs but he doesn't want to link those. Regular Fox media generally doesn't publish the big exaggerations and lies as they are too easy to disprove. That's all reserved for the propaganda hours at night, but then you'd need to record the show. Plus who would want to quote Tucker Carlson in a serious discussion? LOL.

Paulie97
05-31-21, 00:02
Yes tomorrow is Memorial Day, Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone.

The VP, who tweeted "Enjoy the long weekend" seems to have forgotten this and has made it all about herself.Correct, "tomorrow" is Memorial Day. Had she got on twitter tomorrow and said only "Enjoy your Monday" then that would be a big deal. Yea it's also a long weekend, start of summer, party time, few are currently somber meditating on the sacrifices of our fallen soldiers. That's tomorrow, and it's ironic indeed any acting sanctimonious who supported a traitor like Trump, for reasons already noted. Strain out gnats, swallow camels. I love that saying. Wink.

Chris P
05-31-21, 00:30
"Memorial Day is a federal holiday in the United States for honoring and mourning the military personnel who have died in the performance of their military duties while serving in the United States Armed Forces. The holiday is observed on the last Monday of May. " (Wikipedia).

Well done Paulie for mentioning the reason for the holiday. Yes tomorrow is Memorial Day, Happy Memorial Day weekend everyone.

The VP, who tweeted "Enjoy the long weekend" seems to have forgotten this and has made it all about herself.Of course she did. She is a typical self-centred ho who sucked and fucked a married man 30 years older than her to get her break. In a sane world she wouldn't have got past the stripper pole.

Chris P
05-31-21, 00:41
Show me the videos of Biden trailing off and forgetting what he was going to say. https://www.the-sun.com/news/2581364/joe-biden-walks-away-before-end-press-conference/

"CONFUSED Joe Biden completely forgot what he was talking about and mumbled incoherently at the camera before walking away from the podium mid-question in an excruciating press conference.

The president took questions from reporters for the first time on Thursday afternoon, but quickly began to make mistakes.

AS he finished answering a question about filibuster, Biden appeared to trail off-thought, ending with a pause, concluding "anyway."

". If you hold near and dear to you that you uh um like to be able to um. " Biden said, before concluding "anyway."

Biden then closed his eyes and appeared to struggle to form the next sentence.

However, after seconds of confusion, he quickly told reassured viewers "we're ready to get a lot done."

He then appeared to call out a name from a list of White House reporters who were quizzing the president.

Going back to his list at a later point of the conference, Biden asked "where am I" before asking CNN's Kaitlan Collins for another question.

The struggles came just days after the president was filmed falling three times on the steps of Air Force One today before flying to Georgia.

Worrying footage showed the president, 78, tripping on the stairs just months after injuring his foot."

That's just one of many examples out there, as you know.

What is also relevant is that while Trump was out speaking publicly and doing press conferences pretty much every day, Biden is seen less often than an ailing soviet dictator. He didn't even do his first press conference for months, and the questions and reporters were all vetted ahead of time so he was trained on exactly what to say. He even had extra large photos in the binder on his podium so he knew who to ask. Despite hiding him away, his handlers cannot hide the fact that he is physically and mentally failing, and unfit to run America (which is why he is not running it in reality).

Chris P
05-31-21, 00:58
how many people has Antifa killed in the last 25 years? Multiple people were killed in the CHAZ / CHOP / whatever the hell you want to call the lawless so-called autonomous zones that antifa communists set up. Furthermore even the far-left fake news Guardian reported on Aaron Danielson, who was murdered by antifa after a Trump rally. Here are some more of the dead: https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-unrest-people-have-died-amid-george-floyd-protests-across-us.

Let us not forget that antifa attempted to barricade and burn down police precincts with officers still inside.

Princeton University (hardly a haven of right-wing activity) released a study in early September last year showing 570 antifa / BLM protests turned violent. The number now will of course be far higher.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/09/08/new-study-shows-majority-of-blm-protests-turned-violent-n2575801

And the total damage done by BLM / antifa riots topped $2 bn.

P.S. The fact you actually try to pass off Media Matters as a legit source is hilarious.

Chris P
05-31-21, 01:14
Since you obviously believe what you write as gospel, why not back it up with sources?

Please post a link to any US politician saying that they wanted "Open borders". The politician must use the specific words "I support open borders".

Please post a link to any legislation in the us that has physically removed guns from the population.

I guarantee that you can find neither.

As to your "white supremacy, whatever that is" remark, the only thing I can say is that the only people who don't know what "white supremacy" is are "white supremacists".Watch what they do, not what they say. The democrats are slippery liars who know full well that the majority of the population wants to hugely restrict immigration. If they came out publicly for open borders they wouldn't even be able to win one of their rigged elections, never mind a free and fair one, so they couch their words and are covered for by the fake news.

But look at the reality. There is a rush on the border. Biden's handlers have crippled the border patrol and blocked ICE from carrying out immigration raids and enforcing the law. They have imposed a de facto open border policy. You know all of this perfectly well of course.

Red flag laws are another slippery way to disarm people. Anyone with a grudge against any individual can make a claim against them, and then the person has to go through an endless and costly process to get his weapons back. There are also various state and local laws in democrat run states which abridge citizens' second amendment rights, IE Illinois with FOID and concealed carry permits, no open carry, expensive fees etc.

Of course, as we see in Chicago, Illinois, it doesn't make a difference to the shootings that happen every week there. But the democrats don't care about urban black gang shootings committed largely with handguns. They want to disarm conservative white suburban and rural people, which is why they and their fake news never shut up about the AR-15, despite the fact that handguns are used in far more murders in America.

Finally, the democrats and the fake news refuse to define this "white supremacy" thing that they are always whining about. One would think that strange: if you're going to complain endlessly about something, you really ought to let people know what it is. Maybe you could do it PVMonger: define "white supremacy".

Chris P
05-31-21, 01:20
As you surely noticed his arguments are very basic, barstool bigotry, the Jews this, the blacks and browns that, the sky is falling, etc. These are the simplistic and misleading themes Trump used to establish his base of which he is one. There are no sources for any of this besides wingnut blogs but he doesn't want to link those. Regular Fox media generally doesn't publish the big exaggerations and lies as they are too easy to disprove. That's all reserved for the propaganda hours at night, but then you'd need to record the show. Plus who would want to quote Tucker Carlson in a serious discussion? LOL.Aaaaand. No links, or even purported facts, or even any of the supposed "exaggerations". Just more leftist verbal diarrhea, as we're sadly used to by now.

Who would want to quote Tucker Carlson? Perhaps the millions of people who make his show the most watched in cable news history. And often top-rated in all cable TV?

PVMonger
05-31-21, 04:29
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2581364/joe-biden-walks-away-before-end-press-conference/

"CONFUSED Joe Biden completely forgot what he was talking about and mumbled incoherently at the camera before walking away from the podium mid-question in an excruciating press conference.

The president took questions from reporters for the first time on Thursday afternoon, but quickly began to make mistakes.

AS he finished answering a question about filibuster, Biden appeared to trail off-thought, ending with a pause, concluding "anyway."

". If you hold near and dear to you that you uh um like to be able to um. " Biden said, before concluding "anyway."

Biden then closed his eyes and appeared to struggle to form the next sentence.

However, after seconds of confusion, he quickly told reassured viewers "we're ready to get a lot done."

He then appeared to call out a name from a list of White House reporters who were quizzing the president.

Going back to his list at a later point of the conference, Biden asked "where am I" before asking CNN's Kaitlan Collins for another question..And this press conference sent more people to the hospital than Donnie suggesting that people inject disinfectant and shove lightbulbs up their asses?

Who cares if Donnie gave lots of press conferences. He didn't utter a complete sentence unless he was reading (in a monotone fashion) from a teleprompter. Otherwise he sounded like a third grader (my apologies to third graders worldwide).

Elvis 2008
05-31-21, 05:28
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/12/04/no-atlanta-didnt-count-ballots-in-secret-or-in-suitcases/?sh=edb7e14e5a42.

You don't care one iota about the integrity of the election. If you did, you'd ask questions like "Can we trust the down-ballot vote counts?" or "How come there's no fraud in Houston, Columbus, etc? In truth, all you really care about is perpetuating "the election was stolen" nonsense.Shit, are you fucking kidding me? This is as bad as the lies about the supposed debunked Wuhan lab conspiracy.

"Plus, the state investigator told Lead Stories that partisan election observers were never told to leave the counting room on election night, but instead left voluntarily after some staff members went home."

The video clearly shows a woman enter the room and everyone save for four people leaving. They did not leave voluntarily. The counters put tarps over the ballot boxes. It was clear as day everyone was told to leave. Do you really think all of them up and left on their own at the same time without being told?

"An independent state-appointed monitor was also present during vote-counting in Atlanta, and did not find any indications of illegal counting, a spokesperson for the Secretary of State's office told Forbes."

That is half-true. The Republicans were gone for 2 and a a half hours, and this state monitor came back and watched an hour before Republicans did. That again is a bullshit excuse, political spin.

"Nothing we have learned from the independent monitor or our investigation have suggested any improper ballots were scanned," the Georgia Secretary of State's office said in a statement to Forbes.

How do you learn anything unless people were deposed? Republican counters were told to leave. There is no disputing that fact. They were told to leave, left, saw votes being counted, and came back. One Republican counter saw votes going 55 to 1 for Biden from a long term care facility, and a Republican monitor disputed the veracity of the ballots. The independent monitor did not verify if said ballots were accurate. All he did was say, "Gee, duh, the ballots look okay to me." The ballots look okay to me does not cut it with me. Oh, and the Republican counter who objected was fired from her job.

You can spin this bullshit any way you want, but time and again in state after state, Republican counters were kicked out and prevented from watching the vote. Whether that made any difference or not, I cannot say and you cannot say, but you Democratic douches with your arrogance and certainty annoy the piss out of me.

Just because Trump said the virus leaked from a lab, all you Democratic douches rushed to judgment and said it did not. These same piece of shit journalists who were saying there was no way Covid came from a lab and banned anyone from Facebook, Google, and Twitter who said otherwise are saying the election was not rigged. I saw with my own eyes Republican counters kicked out on video. What was the ballot count when the Republican monitors were kicked out? Show me it is 50-50 and I will shut up. Show me it is 55-1 for Biden and you are a moron if you do not think the election was rigged.

Well, legally Republican monitors did not have to be there? That is your fucking excuse? Your bullshit article does not even lie like the other leftist papers that says there was a communication error.

How did the virus leaking from a lab go from being a debunked conspiracy theory to being the likely etiology of the pandemic? You and your media geniuses were so certain Trump was wrong about that. Weren't there all these experts who swore that it was not possible that the virus leaked from a lab? Why are the people swearing there was no fraud any different than the "scientists" who insisted the Covid virus could not come from a lab?

I repeat, what was the ballot count when Republican monitors were not around? That is all that matters. All the rest is bullshit spin.

EihTooms
05-31-21, 09:21
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2581364/joe-biden-walks-away-before-end-press-conference/

"CONFUSED Joe Biden completely forgot what he was talking about and mumbled incoherently at the camera before walking away from the podium mid-question in an excruciating press conference.

The president took questions from reporters for the first time on Thursday afternoon, but quickly began to make mistakes.

AS he finished answering a question about filibuster, Biden appeared to trail off-thought, ending with a pause, concluding "anyway."

". If you hold near and dear to you that you uh um like to be able to um. " Biden said, before concluding "anyway."

Biden then closed his eyes and appeared to struggle to form the next sentence.

However, after seconds of confusion, he quickly told reassured viewers "we're ready to get a lot done."

He then appeared to call out a name from a list of White House reporters who were quizzing the president.

Going back to his list at a later point of the conference, Biden asked "where am I" before asking CNN's Kaitlan Collins for another question.

The struggles came just days after the president was filmed falling three times on the steps of Air Force One today before flying to Georgia.

Worrying footage showed the president, 78, tripping on the stairs just months after injuring his foot."

That's just one of many examples out there, as you know.

What is also relevant is that while Trump was out speaking publicly and doing press conferences pretty much every day, Biden is seen less often than an ailing soviet dictator. He didn't even do his first press conference for months, and the questions and reporters were all vetted ahead of time so he was trained on exactly what to say. He even had extra large photos in the binder on his podium so he knew who to ask. Despite hiding him away, his handlers cannot hide the fact that he is physically and mentally failing, and unfit to run America (which is why he is not running it in reality).No, I do not know that there are many out there. In fact, that is exactly the one I mentioned and dismissed in my post and likely the only one the "Biden has dimentia!" crowd feels comfortable to share.

It is clearly exactly what I described. Biden realizes he is about to go on a side topic, "teaching" the press how to get things done, decides it is not the time and place for this lesson and merely goes back to the original question, closes it and proceeds to take the next questions that he answers more fully and intelligently than Trump ever did in the past 5 years.

Zero evidence of dimentia.

Houston Player
05-31-21, 12:41
No, I do not know that there are many out there. In fact, that is exactly the one I mentioned and dismissed in my post and likely the only one the "Biden has dimentia!" crowd feels comfortable to share.

It is clearly exactly what I described. Biden realizes he is about to go on a side topic, "teaching" the press how to get things done, decides it is not the time and place for this lesson and merely goes back to the original question, closes it and proceeds to take the next questions that he answers more fully and intelligently than Trump ever did in the past 5 years.

Zero evidence of dimentia.I'm sorry but you're delusional. The problem with American politics today is that no one listens or tries to understand the other side. Both sides are consistently wrong however they are also consistently right. However very few people will acknowledge that. I never liked Trump and I don't like Biden. I think 20 years ago Biden was a pretty good Democrat and politician. Today I think he is too heavily influenced by progressives around him. He definitely has dementia just like Trump was way over his head. I will admit that I liked a few of the things that Trump did although not many. I'm still waiting on something that I like that Biden has done but given the short amount of time that he has been in office I'm still hopeful that he will.

EihTooms
05-31-21, 13:17
I'm sorry but you're delusional. The problem with American politics today is that no one listens or tries to understand the other side. Both sides are consistently wrong however they are also consistently right. However very few people will acknowledge that. I never liked Trump and I don't like Biden. I think 20 years ago Biden was a pretty good Democrat and politician. Today I think he is too heavily influenced by progressives around him. He definitely has dementia just like Trump was way over his head. I will admit that I liked a few of the things that Trump did although not many. I'm still waiting on something that I like that Biden has done but given the short amount of time that he has been in office I'm still hopeful that he will.And where are the clips of all the incidents where Biden displays evidence of dementia during any of the live debates for the 2020 nomination and against Trump?

Idiot Trump obviously fell for the "Biden has dementia!" BS fed to him by loony Rudy or some other desperate Trump handler and tried mightily to growl, interrupt and bully him into falling into some evidence of it.

But he couldn't do it. Instead, Trump is the one who came off like a mentally deranged clown. Not surprising.

Member #4698
05-31-21, 13:21
Zero evidence of dimentia.That is because you do not want to see it. I have an uncle who now suffers from the same form of dementia as Joe Biden. At times he is totally coherent and rational, able to carry on a conversation. At other times he barely knows where he is or what decade it is and may launch into his concern about packing his suitcase for an important business meeting he is supposed to have in NYC the following morning.

There are hundreds of examples of Joe Biden's diminished capacity. How else do you explain his sudden conversion from law-and-order middle of the road Joe as late as 2013 to radical no border, America is racist Antifa / BLM Joe today. American Embassies around the world actually flew BLM flags today. Do you really think Joe Biden knows anything about this? Or knows about the chaos on the Southern border?

And did Joe suddenly wake up one morning with an epiphany on the level of Saul of Tarsus (St. Paul)'s epiphany and see the error of his thinking over 40 years in elected office or is he suffering from dementia and now does whatever his radical handlers ask him to do understanding little of what he is signing and allowing to happen?

And why do his people not allow the questioning of the President? And if you really want to understand Joe's mental condition all you have to do is check his daily schedule and compare it to Trump's or Obama's daily schedule. Biden literally does nothing all day.

But whatever you or I think about Joe Biden, the man, is irrelevant. The undeniable fact is the Biden Administration is the most radical in American History and it threatens the very essence of our democracy. Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, and the Freedom to pursue the American Dream is on the chopping block. I know you don't see this either.

BTW, congrats on your CA real estate investments. It is good to know that at heart you are a capitalist. 555. The trick now will be holding onto your after-tax savings (wealth). The Joe Biden Administration will be coming for it. Good luck.

Houston Player
05-31-21, 14:45
And where are the clips of all the incidents where Biden displays evidence of dementia during any of the live debates for the 2020 nomination and against Trump?

Idiot Trump obviously fell for the "Biden has dementia!" BS fed to him by loony Rudy or some other desperate Trump handler and tried mightily to growl, interrupt and bully him into falling into some evidence of it.

But he couldn't do it. Instead, Trump is the one who came off like a mentally deranged clown. Not surprising.I'm sorry I didn't realize that you were only talking about the election. I was talking about since he has been in Ofiice.

EihTooms
05-31-21, 15:07
I'm sorry I didn't realize that you were only talking about the election. I was talking about since he has been in Ofiice.So you think he went from winning every debate against Trump that Trump wasn't too much of a coward to show up for into a senile old man with dementia within 7 months?

Well, then a majority of the American people clearly prefer the actions, words and results of Biden in these past 7 months of senility and dementia than Trump under any condition throughout his entire so-called presidency.

Houston Player
05-31-21, 15:20
So you think he went from winning every debate against Trump that Trump wasn't too much of a coward to show up for into a senile old man with dementia within 7 months?

Well, then a majority of the American people clearly prefer the actions, words and results of Biden in these past 7 months of senility and dementia than Trump under any condition throughout his entire so-called presidency.Dude I don't know why you keep trying to compare Biden to Trump that's an awful low mark. I'm not a Trump supporter I already said that I don't like Trump. Being better than Trump is no way to measure a president. It just makes you look foolish. You wouldn't admit to Biden making a mistake or doing something wrong because you're a grass roots democrat and will blindly support anything that he does. I'm not democrat or republican. I'm a fiscal conservative not a social conservative. Some conservatives think I'm too liberal and most liberals think I'm too conservative. I do however try to listen to viewpoints on all sides and form my own opinion.

Biden has dementia the only debate is how bad it is.

Vagabundo1
05-31-21, 15:24
Exactly. Pathetic.


Biden has dementia the only debate is how bad it is.

PVMonger
05-31-21, 19:31
Dude I don't know why you keep trying to compare Biden to Trump that's an awful low mark. I'm not a Trump supporter I already said that I don't like Trump. Being better than Trump is no way to measure a president. It just makes you look foolish. You wouldn't admit to Biden making a mistake or doing something wrong because you're a grass roots democrat and will blindly support anything that he does. I'm not democrat or republican. I'm a fiscal conservative not a social conservative. Some conservatives think I'm too liberal and most liberals think I'm too conservative. I do however try to listen to viewpoints on all sides and form my own opinion.

Biden has dementia the only debate is how bad it is.Not being trump is what the US needs right now. The majority of the population is glad to wake up and not have to hear about Donnie's 3-am-while-taking-a-shit rage tweets.

And don't prattle on with the "what has Biden done" BS. Republicans (especially in the Senate) will filibuster everything the Democrats propose, then Republican voters will lap up the Republican "see, they didn't do anything" rhetoric. And no, Republicans don't want bipartisanship. In fact, Biden is Charlie Brown, Republicans are Lucy and bipartisanship is the football.

And if Biden has dementia, how come Donnie didn't wipe the floor with him during the debates? After all, somebody with dementia can't remember where they live, let alone issues.

Face it, Biden hasn't acted like somebody with dementia. Trump, however, acted like somebody who couldn't string 5 or 6 words together to form a single coherent thought. Case in point https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2020/8/13/21367815/trump-not-biden-corners-the-market-on-gaffes-gene-lyons.

Paulie97
05-31-21, 19:31
And where are the clips of all the incidents where Biden displays evidence of dementia during any of the live debates for the 2020 nomination and against Trump?

Idiot Trump obviously fell for the "Biden has dementia!" BS fed to him by loony Rudy or some other desperate Trump handler and tried mightily to growl, interrupt and bully him into falling into some evidence of it.

But he couldn't do it. Instead, Trump is the one who came off like a mentally deranged clown. Not surprising.Very well stated.

Paulie97
05-31-21, 21:06
And if Biden has dementia, how come Donnie didn't wipe the floor with him during the debates? After all, somebody with dementia can't remember where they live, let alone issues.And of course do not ever expect these points to be addressed. The first debate especially was a beatdown of the highest order, Trump thrown into full on panic mode.