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EihTooms
05-31-21, 23:02
Dude I don't know why you keep trying to compare Biden to Trump that's an awful low mark. I'm not a Trump supporter I already said that I don't like Trump. Being better than Trump is no way to measure a president. It just makes you look foolish. You wouldn't admit to Biden making a mistake or doing something wrong because you're a grass roots democrat and will blindly support anything that he does. I'm not democrat or republican. I'm a fiscal conservative not a social conservative. Some conservatives think I'm too liberal and most liberals think I'm too conservative. I do however try to listen to viewpoints on all sides and form my own opinion.

Biden has dementia the only debate is how bad it is.Why? Because Trump would get 75 million votes TODAY from his lemming base if the election were held today. And if he finds himself in a federal prison in 2024 and doesn't run again there will be another Repub running just as anti American democracy as Trump is but not nearly so stupid as to commit as many unforced errors as he did on the way to dismantling American democracy, identifying, embracing and developing their Party's patented next "Once in 100 Years Disaster!" for the country and the world.

Yes, I know being a better POTUS than Trump is the lowest bar imaginable. But in case you hadn't noticed these low bar Repubs can and do further rig the already pro-Repub rigged system to squeeze out narrow victories anyway despite losing the vote primarily through every Dem voter suppression tactic they and Putin can come up with.

The most important one being voter apathy, the idea that your vote really doesn't matter, might as well not bother.

Which, btw, your classic pro-Repub "Bothsiderism" plays into perfectly and helps the Trumpiest failed Repubs win elections by those narrow margins just as surely as if you marched into the voting booth and punched the ballot according to every Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson and Vladimir Putin wish.

EihTooms
05-31-21, 23:19
And of course do not ever expect these points to be addressed. The first debate especially was a beatdown of the highest order, Trump thrown into full on panic mode.Biden just delivered a 20-30 minute speech at the annual Memorial Day ceremony at Arlington Cemerary and he was letter perfect, conveying every nuanced literal and emotional understanding of every sentence, phrase, word and syllable. He read it as all presidents do and I am sure it was at least partially written by speech writers as is the case with other presidents. But it was blatantly obvious he understood everything that was written by him and others and brought as much if not more meaning to the ideas and words on the page and teleprompter as the best presidents of the past.

Oh, he cleared his throat 2-3 times during the lengthy outdoor speech and, naturally, excused himself on the run after one of them. So I fully expect FOX News to carefully edit a 4 second video clip of just the throat clearing and his brief apology to prove to its viewers that "Biden has dementia! And COVID! And now he is on a Dem Apology For America Tour!" that will be brought up and linked here.

EihTooms
05-31-21, 23:55
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BTW, congrats on your CA real estate investments. It is good to know that at heart you are a capitalist. 555. The trick now will be holding onto your after-tax savings (wealth). The Joe Biden Administration will be coming for it. Good luck.Some of the main reasons I vote Dem and never Repub now is because I much prefer the way Dems cut taxes and overall costs re increased income for me and appreciate the countless times Dems have rescued and recovered American Capitalism from typically horrific and disastrous Repub economic mishandling of it.

And if "sudden conversions" are a sign of dementia then Trump's sudden conversion from openly acknowledging the well documented fact that the U.S. economy does better under Dems than Repubs just in time to ride down that escalator and announce his Repub Party candidacy must have been very troubling to you.

Paulie97
06-01-21, 02:34
Oh, he cleared his throat 2-3 times during the lengthy outdoor speech and, naturally, excused himself on the run after one of them. So I fully expect FOX News to carefully edit a 4 second video clip of just the throat clearing and his brief apology to prove to its viewers that "Biden has dementia! And COVID! And now he is on a Dem Apology For America Tour!" that will be brought up and linked here.CNN is certainly left leaning but Fox isn't even a news service. It's tabloid.

Member #4698
06-01-21, 03:14
Some of the main reasons I vote Dem and never Repub now is because I much prefer the way Dems cut taxes and overall costs re increased income for me and appreciate the countless times Dems have rescued and recovered American Capitalism from typically horrific and disastrous Repub economic mishandling of it.

And if "sudden conversions" are a sign of dementia then Trump's sudden conversion from openly acknowledging the well documented fact that the U.S. economy does better under Dems than Repubs just in time to ride down that escalator and announce his Repub Party candidacy must have been very troubling to you.I do not understand what you are talking about. It's like we live in two parallel but opposite universes. Dem tax cuts huh? Where, when? JFK? Trump's sudden conversion to who's (your) well documented yada yada yada. Sorry, no offense, but you lose me with your circular logic. Where did you get your graduate degree in Economics if I may be so bold?

Paulie97
06-01-21, 05:34
Last we checked, your bogeymen white supremacists exist exclusively as a figment of your imagination and as a projection of your fears. Have they formulated and articulated their supremacist program, you know, a gamatria where they brand all their enemies as Esau and Amalek and consign them to extermination in the world to come?PVmonger had the best reply to this one, and I'll paraphrase, the only people who think white supremacists don't exist are uh, white supremacists. With few exceptions that's what it boils down to. This as golfinho dives into his standard whataboutism, but he usually wants to talk about Antifa. What happened to that? Wink. This time it's straight to the Anti-Semitism we've witnessed before, alluding to the ancient Jews and the Torah, though in the afterlife portion he seems to be confusing some Christian themes.

At your suggestion, and "last we checked," the kill score remains the same, right wing extremists 329, Antifa 0. That's what has the wingnuts all ruffled. Their go to whataboutism has been ripped from their clutches.

https://www.businessinsider.com/right-wing-extremists-kill-329-since-1994-antifa-killed-none-2020-7

The former also represents our greatest domestic terrorist threat.

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf

If you'd take a break from the fallacies of the Anti-Semite, failed academic E. Michael Jones and read some legit history you'll find that white supremacism begins to find real expression in the Enlightenment with top down racial categories and pseudo-science like phrenology and craniometry, which all over time has served as a basis for subjugation, through cultural motifs, law, and violence. Portions of this still exist while there's resistance to change. There's also been plenty of pseudo-science directed at Jews, related to physical characteristics, etc. So you Anti-Semites could get in on the act.

White supremacism doesn't exist. That and racism don't exist, are just a figment of the imagination. Arguments like that are usually best ignored, because they have no more credibility than the babblings of a guy who needs his antipsychotic meds adjusted. They rightly will never be part of the national discussion. But occasionally it might pay to remind what's behind golfinho, who pops in occasionally, laughably acting abstruse pretending like he's educated when of course he isn't.

/www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/assets/pdf/combating-hate/E-Michael-Jones.pdf.

Paulie97
06-01-21, 06:47
Simply hilarious, you can't make this stuff up.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/capitol-rioter-s-attorney-calls-him-dumb-who-believed-what-he-heard-on-fox-news/ar-AAKzu3q?ocid=msedgdhp

Paulie97
06-01-21, 09:45
Multiple people were killed in the CHAZ / CHOP / whatever the hell you want to call the lawless so-called autonomous zones that antifa communists set up.You can red bait until the cows come home but just shows you as ill educated. Your typical Antifa member follows Anarchism, abolish prisons and police forces etc, very different than Communism, and different than the Fascism you tried to pin them with. I mean I know since they call themselves Anti-Fascists that you want to do the third grader "No you are the Fascist!" but it's not third grade anymore. Plus anyone who stayed awake even half the time in high school history class knows that the founders of Fascism didn't go around advocating for women's liberation, gay rights, racial equality and the abolishment of police and prisons. Anarchist is bad enough, so why not make yourself sound smarter by calling them what they are?


Furthermore even the far-left fake news Guardian reported on Aaron Danielson, who was murdered by antifa after a Trump rally. Post the link to the Guardian story. Most reliable sources say he was "security for BLM. " A lot of wingnut blogs say the assailant was also connected to Antifa. Regardless the best case scenario is you can chalk up one for your column, so it would still be 329 for the wingnuts, 1 for Antifa. You're still comprehensively fucked.


Here are some more of the dead: https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-unrest-people-have-died-amid-george-floyd-protests-across-us.17 deaths nationwide surrounding protests, deaths by what cause? And your own source contradicts you. Fox admits the circumstances were "murky. " I posted a few thorough articles analyzing these deaths about a week ago.


Let us not forget that antifa attempted to barricade and burn down police precincts with officers still inside.Two buffoons burned an awning and were caught, and the score remains the same, 329-0.


Princeton University (hardly a haven of right-wing activity) released a study in early September last year showing 570 antifa / BLM protests turned violent. The number now will of course be far higher.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/09/08/new-study-shows-majority-of-blm-protests-turned-violent-n2575801 LOL See what happens when you just cut and paste off a wingnut blog? They didn't read the Princeton study and of course neither did you.

This is from the actual study, page 5.

The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent.

(see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement.

Demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported.

In over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations, meanwhile, have.

Been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful.

Protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest.

Since Floyd's killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than.

Dispersed throughout the city.

We can add to this that much of the looting related activity has not been connected to BLMs but what appears to be opportunists. Such is a common phenomenon around protests. But yea, 93% of all demonstrations peaceful. So much for this mob of black males rushing to the burbs frothing at the mouth and raping and killing all your daughters. LOL The sky is not falling man. And I'll take an Ivy League study any day of the week over wingnut blogs and Tucker Carlson. So would any other reasonable and educated person. Thanks for directing me to that.

https://acleddata.com/acleddatanew/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/ACLED_USDataReview_Sum2020_SeptWebPDF.pdf


And the total damage done by BLM / antifa riots topped $2 bn. Source please?

What were the damages here? How many dead?

https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/oklahoma-city-bombing


The fact you actually try to pass off Media Matters as a legit source is hilarious.This while sourcing Fox and a wingnut blog regarding the so called Biden dementia, and while lying about the content of your linked sources, claiming support when the content contradicts you. Hilarious indeed. Media Matters actually critiques both left and right wing sources.

Antifa violent? Of course at times, but hardly deadly. And the fact that you are working overtime trying to prove just one kill proves volumes. Also much of the violence has involved clashes with violent counter protestors. Two sides showed up for a fight.

329-0 wow. DHS and all reasonable people resoundingly agree that the extremists on your end of the spectrum are the much greater threat. That's how it is and how it will be, no matter how much smoke and mirrors you toss up. On the plus side your posted some sources, Fox and wingnut blogs, misrepresentations of the content therein, but it's progress. A step up from the no sources at all of your prior MO.

PVMonger
06-01-21, 13:52
And of course do not ever expect these points to be addressed. The first debate especially was a beatdown of the highest order, Trump thrown into full on panic mode.Of course. I won't hold my breath waiting for trumpers to say anything intelligent. All they've got are Donnie's and Tucker's talking points, none of which make sense.

PVMonger
06-01-21, 13:57
Biden just delivered a 20-30 minute speech at the annual Memorial Day ceremony at Arlington Cemerary and he was letter perfect, conveying every nuanced literal and emotional understanding of every sentence, phrase, word and syllable. He read it as all presidents do and I am sure it was at least partially written by speech writers as is the case with other presidents. But it was blatantly obvious he understood everything that was written by him and others and brought as much if not more meaning to the ideas and words on the page and teleprompter as the best presidents of the past.

Oh, he cleared his throat 2-3 times during the lengthy outdoor speech and, naturally, excused himself on the run after one of them. So I fully expect FOX News to carefully edit a 4 second video clip of just the throat clearing and his brief apology to prove to its viewers that "Biden has dementia! And COVID! And now he is on a Dem Apology For America Tour!" that will be brought up and linked here.Don't forget OANN and InfoWars and the rest of the right-wingnut media. They'd have a field day with such a clip and the sheep would lap it up.

Canada
06-01-21, 14:27
Some of the main reasons I vote Dem and never Repub now is because I much prefer the way Dems cut taxes and overall costs re increased income for me and appreciate the countless times Dems have rescued and recovered American Capitalism from typically horrific and disastrous Repub economic mishandling of it.

And if "sudden conversions" are a sign of dementia then Trump's sudden conversion from openly acknowledging the well documented fact that the U.S. economy does better under Dems than Repubs just in time to ride down that escalator and announce his Repub Party candidacy must have been very troubling to you.Just when I thought the dumb on this site couldn't get any dumber here comes this post. Trump lowered taxes for every one. Biden is stopping Trump tax cuts and raising them even higher. Biden has said this over and over on every news outlet. Do you feel important when you make up this crap?

Canada
06-01-21, 14:30
Biden just delivered a 20-30 minute speech at the annual Memorial Day ceremony at Arlington Cemerary and he was letter perfect, conveying every nuanced literal and emotional understanding of every sentence, phrase, word and syllable. He read it as all presidents do and I am sure it was at least partially written by speech writers as is the case with other presidents. But it was blatantly obvious he understood everything that was written by him and others and brought as much if not more meaning to the ideas and words on the page and teleprompter as the best presidents of the past.

Oh, he cleared his throat 2-3 times during the lengthy outdoor speech and, naturally, excused himself on the run after one of them. So I fully expect FOX News to carefully edit a 4 second video clip of just the throat clearing and his brief apology to prove to its viewers that "Biden has dementia! And COVID! And now he is on a Dem Apology For America Tour!" that will be brought up and linked here.Biden speech was a joke. It wasn't his speech. He read it off a teleprompter like a five year old kid reading his speech in front of his classmates. Someone wrote it for him and he read it. He probably doesn't even know what it said. Looked like an idiot.

EihTooms
06-01-21, 14:38
Just when I thought the dumb on this site couldn't get any dumber here comes this post. Trump lowered taxes for every one. Biden is stopping Trump tax cuts and raising them even higher. Biden has said this over and over on every news outlet. Do you feel important when you make up this crap?Trump lowered taxes permanently for corporations and super wealthy and temporarily for lower income margins while at the same time making some of the worst economic decisions in the history of the world that wiped out millions of jobs in the USA alone.

Factor in all the USA jobs lost under Repub presidential economic "stewardship" of the past 100 years right up to and including Trump and it is probably in negative territory without a single net gain USA job but plenty Trillion$ in deficit spending required to pull us out of their typical Crashes, Depressions and Great Recessions. Which must be paid back somewhere, somehow by somebody.

Seriously. Look at the number of USA jobs created under Repub presidents of the past 100 years vs the number their idiotic and insufferably repeated failed policies lost and it is quite possible the wonderful "tax cutting" Trump finally pushed his Party solidly into net LOSS results.

That speaks volumes about your beloved Repub tax cutting policy effectiveness and their amazing penchant for making the worst economic decisions at the worst possible times.

Crap like that has never followed a Dem tax and economic policy legislation, some of which reduced tax liabilities for more Americans than any Repub ever did. And produced millions of positive net GAINED USA jobs along the way, which is by far my preference when it comes to tax and economic policy.

Canada
06-01-21, 16:08
Trump lowered taxes permanently for corporations and super wealthy and temporarily for lower income margins while at the same time making some of the worst economic decisions in the history of the world that wiped out millions of jobs in the USA alone.

Factor in all the USA jobs lost under Repub presidential economic "stewardship" of the past 100 years right up to and including Trump and it is probably in negative territory without a single net gain USA job but plenty Trillion$ in deficit spending required to pull us out of their typical Crashes, Depressions and Great Recessions. Which must be paid back somewhere, somehow by somebody.

Seriously. Look at the number of USA jobs created under Repub presidents of the past 100 years vs the number their idiotic and insufferably repeated failed policies lost and it is quite possible the wonderful "tax cutting" Trump finally pushed his Party solidly into net LOSS results.

That speaks volumes about your beloved Repub tax cutting policy effectiveness and their amazing penchant for making the worst economic decisions at the worst possible times.

Crap like that has never followed a Dem tax and economic policy legislation, some of which reduced tax liabilities for more Americans than any Repub ever did. And produced millions of positive net GAINED USA jobs along the way, which is by far my preference when it comes to tax and economic policy.I am not looking at past presidents. They don't affect my life. I look at the current president and what he is doing. Biden is raising taxes on individuals and business. Biden is doing nothing for the lower income workers other than giving them high energy costs and inflation. Biden has damaged the lower income more in 100 days than Trump tax cuts saved them. Face it! Biden is a joke and will push USA so far in debt that our grandkids wouldn't be able to recover. Crises at the border, defund the police and highest crime in decades, higher taxes to drive our businesses overseas, $4 gas and record inflation and weak foreign policy. Great accomplishments in the first 100 days. Quit griping about Trump and start looking into Biden crippling our country. Where is your hate for what Biden is doing?

John Clayton
06-01-21, 18:03
I am not looking at past presidents. They don't affect my life. I look at the current president and what he is doing. Biden is raising taxes on individuals and business. Biden is doing nothing for the lower income workers other than giving them high energy costs and inflation. Biden has damaged the lower income more in 100 days than Trump tax cuts saved them. Face it! Biden is a joke and will push USA so far in debt that our grandkids wouldn't be able to recover. Crises at the border, defund the police and highest crime in decades, higher taxes to drive our businesses overseas, $4 gas and record inflation and weak foreign policy. Great accomplishments in the first 100 days. Quit griping about Trump and start looking into Biden crippling our country. Where is your hate for what Biden is doing?I wondered why this forum even exists? I realized it's like the grease trap on my barbeque smoker.

EihTooms
06-01-21, 18:30
I am not looking at past presidents. They don't affect my life. I look at the current president and what he is doing. Biden is raising taxes on individuals and business. Biden is doing nothing for the lower income workers other than giving them high energy costs and inflation. Biden has damaged the lower income more in 100 days than Trump tax cuts saved them. Face it! Biden is a joke and will push USA so far in debt that our grandkids wouldn't be able to recover. Crises at the border, defund the police and highest crime in decades, higher taxes to drive our businesses overseas, $4 gas and record inflation and weak foreign policy. Great accomplishments in the first 100 days. Quit griping about Trump and start looking into Biden crippling our country. Where is your hate for what Biden is doing?LOL. We hear these same warnings every time a Dem takes over during a colossal Repub economic disaster, which is always the case when Dems take over from outgoing Repubs but never the case when Repubs take over from outgoing Dems.

Your problem is that supposed economic disaster under the Dem never happens. LOL. Trump told us we would have a stock market crash "the likes of which nobody has ever seen!" as soon as Biden becomes president and the Orange Savior is no longer on his throne.

Still waiting for that to happen.

Meanwhile, you keep voting for disproportionately high tax cuts for corporations and the top income margins that Repubs love to enact in exchange for their inevitable Great Repub Crash and Great Repub Recessions that wipe out millions upon millions of USA jobs and sleep well in the sorely mistaken belief that Repubs cut taxes and handle the economy better than Dems. LOL.

I stopped falling for those piddling marginal tax cuts primarily for the top margins, crap for everyone else and the inevitable Great Recession and Massive Job Losses that Repubs have been peddling since forever and getting the same sub par-to-spectacularly failed results decades ago.

Paulie97
06-01-21, 18:33
Who would want to quote Tucker Carlson? Perhaps the millions of people who make his show the most watched in cable news history. And often top-rated in all cable TV?And your logical fallacy is:

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Appeal-to-Popularity

Golfinho
06-01-21, 20:22
With few exceptions that's what it boils down to. This as golfinho dives into his standard whataboutism, but he usually wants to talk aboutt his time it's straight to the Anti-Semitism we've witnessed before, alluding to the ancient Jews and the Torah, though in the afterlife portion he seems to be confusing some Christian There you go -- breaking Godwin's Law 2. 0: bleating out anti-semitism and referencing ADL as your authority. LOL.

PVMonger
06-01-21, 21:35
Biden speech was a joke. It wasn't his speech. He read it off a teleprompter like a five year old kid reading his speech in front of his classmates. Someone wrote it for him and he read it. He probably doesn't even know what it said. Looked like an idiot.One could always tell with trump.

When the speech was on teleprompter, he read it in a monotone and at a slow pace. He sounded like he was a zombie.

When trump spoke "off the cuff", he used 1-syllable words (for his uneducated base) strung together in a disjointed fashion. He sounded like a moron.

That's the story of the trump presidency*. The US was run by a zombie moron.

Paulie97
06-02-21, 00:42
Meanwhile, you keep voting for disproportionately high tax cuts for corporations and the top income margins that Repubs love to enact in exchange for their inevitable Great Repub Crash and Great Repub Recessions that wipe out millions upon millions of USA jobs and sleep well in the sorely mistaken belief that Repubs cut taxes and handle the economy better than Dems. LOL.Chicken Little ism is a huge component Trumpism, as it is with the far right populist ideologues of the present age generally. Head over to Info Wars (Alex Jones) and the sky is falling every day. While there pick up some $100 fish oil and magnesium and some bullet proof vests. There a lot of $ in these gigs.

Canada
06-02-21, 01:54
LOL. We hear these same warnings every time a Dem takes over during a colossal Repub economic disaster, which is always the case when Dems take over from outgoing Repubs but never the case when Repubs take over from outgoing Dems.
The
Your problem is that supposed economic disaster under the Dem never happens. LOL. Trump told us we would have a stock market crash "the likes of which nobody has ever seen!" as soon as Biden becomes president and the Orange Savior is no longer on his throne.

Still waiting for that to happen.

Meanwhile, you keep voting for disproportionately high tax cuts for corporations and the top income margins that Repubs love to enact in exchange for their inevitable Great Repub Crash and Great Repub Recessions that wipe out millions upon millions of USA jobs and sleep well in the sorely mistaken belief that Repubs cut taxes and handle the economy better than Dems. LOL.

I stopped falling for those piddling marginal tax cuts primarily for the top margins, crap for everyone else and the inevitable Great Recession and Massive Job Losses that Repubs have been peddling since forever and getting the same sub par-to-spectacularly failed results decades ago.Fortunately Biden has done nothing yet in his first 4 months so the market and business are still profiting from Trump presidency. Biden like other past democratic presidents will raise taxes on the companies and the companies like Apple will just move their money overseas and we will collect less taxes. History will repeat itself. If Biden does nothing which there is a good chance he will then the economy will boom like the Trump presidency. Biden is to worried about giving money away than trying to build business back up. Wait for the big sell off of stocks if Biden raises capital gain and dividend stocks. But most of you liberals don't have stocks do you can be happy.

Canada
06-02-21, 01:56
One could always tell with trump.

When the speech was on teleprompter, he read it in a monotone and at a slow pace. He sounded like he was a zombie.

When trump spoke "off the cuff", he used 1-syllable words (for his uneducated base) strung together in a disjointed fashion. He sounded like a moron.

That's the story of the trump presidency*. The US was run by a zombie moron.Obviously Biden stuttering and losing train of thought is standard for you losers.

GDreams
06-02-21, 02:45
Obviously Biden stuttering and losing train of thought is standard for you losers.Biden compared to Trump is supreme eloquence. He also talks about things of importance rather than juvenile name calling and boasting about non achievements.

Chris P
06-02-21, 03:15
And why do his people not allow the questioning of the President? And if you really want to understand Joe's mental condition all you have to do is check his daily schedule and compare it to Trump's or Obama's daily schedule. Biden literally does nothing all day.

But whatever you or I think about Joe Biden, the man, is irrelevant. The undeniable fact is the Biden Administration is the most radical in American History and it threatens the very essence of our democracy. Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Religion, and the Freedom to pursue the American Dream is on the chopping block.Biden's handlers usually "call a lid" on the day at about 11 am. I'd never heard that phrase before last year. Normal, functioning presidential candidates have a long work day; think of Trump's four or five rallies in a single day, and endless, energetic schedule. By contrast, Biden's handlers give him a pair of slippers and a cup of ice cream at 11 am, lock him in the basement, and go about their work of destroying America.

And destroying it they are. Freedoms Americans have cherished for over two centuries are under threat by the toxic combination of a fraudulently elected president, Big Tech, Globalist finance, and the fake news media.

Chris P
06-02-21, 03:22
Some of the main reasons I vote Dem and never Repub now is because I much prefer the way Dems cut taxesAh, now I get it. This is all an elaborate troll. Well done, you really got me!

Chris P
06-02-21, 03:25
You can red bait...blablablaIt does make me smile to imagine how much furious effort you put into all your posts. Tears streaming onto the keyboard.

No definition of "white supremacy" though, from you or your alter-ego PVMonger.

Chris P
06-02-21, 03:26
I wondered why this forum even exists? I realized it's like the grease trap on my barbeque smoker.Was your barbeque smoker made in Leningrad?

Chris P
06-02-21, 03:27
White supremacism doesn't exist.The one true thing you've written in this forum.

EihTooms
06-02-21, 03:52
Aaaaand. No links, or even purported facts, or even any of the supposed "exaggerations". Just more leftist verbal diarrhea, as we're sadly used to by now.

Who would want to quote Tucker Carlson? Perhaps the millions of people who make his show the most watched in cable news history. And often top-rated in all cable TV?

Rachel Maddow Has Most-Watched Show In First Quarter Cable News Ratings
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2021/03/30/rachel-maddow-has-most-watched-show-in-first-quarter-cable-news-ratings/?sh=62dcf70a7505

EihTooms
06-02-21, 04:28
Fortunately Biden has done nothing yet in his first 4 months so the market and business are still profiting from Trump presidency. Biden like other past democratic presidents will raise taxes on the companies and the companies like Apple will just move their money overseas and we will collect less taxes. History will repeat itself. If Biden does nothing which there is a good chance he will then the economy will boom like the Trump presidency. Biden is to worried about giving money away than trying to build business back up. Wait for the big sell off of stocks if Biden raises capital gain and dividend stocks. But most of you liberals don't have stocks do you can be happy.Didn't FUX News mention this in passing sometime between their adult diaper commercials or whatever sponsers they've still got left?

Biden signs $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan into Law
March 12,2021.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-signs-covid-relief-bill-american-rescue-plan-into-law/

No kidding, it was in all the real news sources at the time.

You might be thinking about how Moscow Mitch refused to give the Golfer-in-Chief any significant Repub economic legislation to sign until the very last White House business day of 2017 in order to enjoy and falsely take credit for the historic upward stock market and economic expansion handed to him by Obama-Biden and the Dems as long as possible without introducing the exact same kind of Supply-Side/Trickle-Down Repub horseshit failed tax and economic policies brought to us by the likes of (R)Coolidge, (R)Herbert Hoover, (R)Alzheimers Ronnie Reagan, (R)George W. Bush and all of which led us into the usual Great Repub Crashes, Depressions and Recessions and was inevitably destined to do exactly the same for us under (R)Trump, as Moscow Mitch knew only too well.

Xpartan
06-02-21, 04:32
Obviously Biden stuttering and losing train of thought is standard for you losers.Anyone who dares accuse anyone of stuttering and losing train of though after 4 years of Trump's incoherent online and offline blabbering has NEGATIVE credibility, just like their idol.

Vagabundo1
06-02-21, 04:39
https://youtu.be/ovBddHEtxKY

At least on this social network, I won't get canceled for posting this.

I hope Biden holds on only because his VP would be even worse, which is not a good endorsement.

Meanwhile, the President of Russia practices judo against men a third his age.

Canada
06-02-21, 05:17
Didn't FUX News mention this in passing sometime between their adult diaper commercials or whatever sponsers they've still got left?

Biden signs $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan into Law
March 12,2021.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-signs-covid-relief-bill-american-rescue-plan-into-law/

No kidding, it was in all the real news sources at the time.

You might be thinking about how Moscow Mitch refused to give the Golfer-in-Chief any significant Repub economic legislation to sign until the very last White House business day of 2017 in order to enjoy and falsely take credit for the historic upward stock market and economic expansion handed to him by Obama-Biden and the Dems as long as possible without introducing the exact same kind of Supply-Side/Trickle-Down Repub horseshit failed tax and economic policies brought to us by the likes of (R)Coolidge, (R)Herbert Hoover, (R)Alzheimers Ronnie Reagan, (R)George W. Bush and all of which led us into the usual Great Repub Crashes, Depressions and Recessions and was inevitably destined to do exactly the same for us under (R)Trump, as Moscow Mitch knew only too well.This wasn't rescue America it was bankrupt America. Billions of dollars for poorly run democratic states. This isn't a positive. It is a train wreck.

Canada
06-02-21, 05:23
Anyone who dares accuse anyone of stuttering and losing train of though after 4 years of Trump's incoherent online and offline blabbering has NEGATIVE credibility, just like their idol.Obvious you haven't been watching Biden speeches and have only watched Trump speeches. Biden is a disgrace to the teleprompter. He can't even read what is written for him. He was mocked by the world leaders at G7 summit.

Xpartan
06-02-21, 07:37
Obvious you haven't been watching Biden speeches and have only watched Trump speeches. Biden is a disgrace to the teleprompter. He can't even read what is written for him. He was mocked by the world leaders at G7 summit.Aha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxtdCeg7VPE

https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/dec/12/editing-tricks-viral-biden-ad-intensify-world-lead/

EihTooms
06-02-21, 08:27
There you go -- breaking Godwin's Law 2. 0: bleating out anti-semitism and referencing ADL as your authority. LOL.Godwin's Law is nothing more than a silly parlor game debate rule. Godwin should have apologized for conjuring up such a stupid idea 10 minutes after he came up with it.

We should have been making comparisons to Hitler/Nazism and what has now become of the Republican Party early and often at least for the past 15-20 years when it really took a turn for the worse (if that was even possible).

Perhaps if we had been justifiably doing that without the slightest concern about breaking Godwin's silly rule then less than 1.5% of the voters in just two states, Florida and Michigan, would have used their better anti-Nazi judgement and switched their votes for Trump to votes for Clinton in 2016.

Then we would not have suffered the loss of 550,000+ Americans, Recessions in the manufacturing sector, agriculture sector, a big one across the country later, two Bear Market Crashes, millions upon millions of jobs wiped out, trillions added to the deficit for no noticeable improvement in the economy, the emboldening and strengthing of our enemies and adversaries, the pity and well earned derision of our allies, the possible end of traveling freely around the world to fuck and get blown by sweet girls in their 20's for practically nothing and the deadliest attacks on American democracy since the beginning of the country.

In all probability, the most annoying squawking we would have to endure from the wannabe Nazi Q-Anon Repub Party today would be their endless calls for hearings to get to the bottom of "Why did President Hillary Clinton dither and wait TWO WHOLE WEEKS to send our wonderful Pandemic Prevention and Response systems team to Wuhan, China in December 2019 and thereby caused the death of 543 poor Chinese during that terrible regional endemic of late 2019?!"

"Benghazi!'

Lol. Can't you just hear them coming up with some crap like that? I sure can. But that would be many, many, many times better to endure than what we got instead. Fuck Godwin's Law. If ever there was a time and place in history to "break" it as a valuable reminder, these past 15-20 years have been it.

Golfinho
06-02-21, 12:38
Godwin's Law is nothing more than a silly parlor game debate rule. Godwin should have apologized for conjuring up such a stupid idea 10 minutes after he came up with it.

We should have been making comparisons to Hitler/Nazism and what has now become of the Republican Party early and often at least for the past 15-20 years when it really took a turn for the worse (if that was even possible).

Perhaps if we had been justifiably doing that without the slightest concern about breaking Godwin's silly rule then less than 1.5% of the voters in just two states, Florida and Michigan, would have used their better anti-Nazi judgement and switched their votes for Trump to votes for Clinton in 2016.

Then we would not have suffered the loss of 550,000+ Americans, Recessions in the manufacturing sector, agriculture sector, a big one across the country later, two Bear Market Crashes, millions upon millions of jobs wiped out, trillions added to the deficit for no noticeable improvement in the economy, the emboldening and strengthing of our enemies and adversaries, the pity and well earned derision of our allies, the possible end of traveling freely around the world to fuck and get blown by sweet girls in their 20's for practically nothing and the deadliest attacks on American democracy since the beginning of the country..It should be obvious that neither Party is defensible and that lesser evil voting is not the way forward. Trump was the symptom of a failed system, as is Joe Biden. Didn't the polls show that a majority of Trump voters would have voted for Sanders if given the opportunity. If that was in fact the case, what does that tell you?

As for covid: as grotesque as the Trump response was portrayed, things would have in the end played out with little difference regardless of who was the Figurehead-in-Chief. There'd still be travel bans keeping us from our favorite playgrounds, and that's really what matters most from our perspective.

Chris P
06-02-21, 12:43
550,000 deaths.......would be their endless calls for hearings to get to the bottom of "Why did President Hillary Clinton dither and wait TWO WHOLE WEEKS to send our wonderful Pandemic Prevention and Response systems team to Wuhan, China in December 2019 .This from a guy whose party were downplaying and ignoring the disease well into 2020, with Nancy Pelosi going around hugging people in Chinatown and Biden saying that Trump's blocking of flights from China was "racist". Imagine how many more Americans would have died if Trump hadn't stood up to the fake news and democrats in enforcing his ban. Thank God for Trump's strength in the face of leftist lies.

The idea that the Chinese Communist Party would have let the US Government send a team of operatives into Wuhan is so ridiculous and idiotic as to be hilarious, in line with most posts from the wokerati in here.

And now from the Fauci emails released today we discover that he knew that the virus was man-made early in 2020. He also knew that hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment, as President Trump said, but refused to say so. Many more revelations in there, detailing how Fauci and the rest of the establishment were entirely incompetent and mendacious, focused more on attacking the president than saving lives. Fauci lied, thousands died.

Member #4698
06-02-21, 13:07
Time our for a moment of sanity.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6256993729001

PVMonger
06-02-21, 13:50
Fortunately Biden has done nothing yet in his first 4 months so the market and business are still profiting from Trump presidency. Biden like other past democratic presidents will raise taxes on the companies and the companies like Apple will just move their money overseas and we will collect less taxes. History will repeat itself. If Biden does nothing which there is a good chance he will then the economy will boom like the Trump presidency. Biden is to worried about giving money away than trying to build business back up. Wait for the big sell off of stocks if Biden raises capital gain and dividend stocks. But most of you liberals don't have stocks do you can be happy.But Donnie didn't qualify his stock market LIE, did he? So, the bottom line is that Donnie lied (again) and the sheep (Republican voters) ate it up.

But Donnie still lied and you keep twisting yourself into knots trying to defend him.

Chris P
06-02-21, 20:57
twisting yourself into knotsHow about you try twisting yourself into knots by defining this "white supremacism" thing you keep talking about?

Chris P
06-02-21, 21:02
https://youtu.be/ovBddHEtxKY

At least on this social network, I won't get canceled for posting this.

I hope Biden holds on only because his VP would be even worse, which is not a good endorsement.

Meanwhile, the President of Russia practices judo against men a third his age.Sky News Australia is fantastic. Thank god for Rupert Murdoch, the last goy in media. May he live many more years.

I actually think it would be better if Biden keels over and Heels-Up Harris aka Willie Brown's cockholster becomes president. The far-left, globalist, woke, America-last agenda is going on right now, but Biden is a kind of soothing figurehead for a lot of low-information voters. If Harris took over, with her unlikability, cackling, and open hatred for America and white people oozing from her pores, it would wake a lot more people up to what is going on.

Chris P
06-02-21, 21:07
Rachel Maddow Has Most-Watched Show In First Quarter Cable News Ratings
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2021/03/30/rachel-maddow-has-most-watched-show-in-first-quarter-cable-news-ratings/?sh=62dcf70a7505https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/here-are-the-top-rated-cable-news-shows-for-april-2021/477372/

"Tucker Carlson Tonight is No. 1 for April 2021, not just in average total audience, but also among adults 25-54."

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20201216005919/en/FOX-News-Channel-Smashes-Records-With-Highest-Rated-Year-in-Cable-News-History-Across-Total-Day-and-Primetime-Viewership

FNC Finishes 2020 as Most-Watched Basic Cable Network for Fifth Consecutive Year, Becomes First Cable News Network Ever to End Year with More Than Three Million Viewers in Primetime.

FNC Remains the Number One Television Network in Weekday Primetime, Outpacing all Broadcast Networks in Total Viewers Beginning in 2 Q'2020.

"Hannity" Tops Cable News for Fourth Year in a Row with Total Viewers, Besting All-Time Record for Highest-Rated Year in Cable News History.

"Tucker Carlson Tonight" Delivers its Highest-Rated Year Ever, Finishes as Most-Watched Cable News Program in 25-54 Demographic.

Two Dozen FNC Programs Deliver Largest Audiences in Network History; FNC Telecasts Make up 41 of the Top 100 Cable Telecasts in 2020".

Shush.

Paulie97
06-02-21, 22:53
Godwin's Law is nothing more than a silly parlor game debate rule. Godwin should have apologized for conjuring up such a stupid idea 10 minutes after he came up with it.If you reference Godwin himself he allows for exceptions, for cases where it's called for thus the subject isn't entirely off the table.

As to the post you replied to, Gofinho seems to be unaware that Anti-Semitism long predates the Holocaust, and by centuries. He sources us to known Anti-Semites like E. Michael Jones who rubs elbows with and shares conferences with David Duke, plus references Holocaust deniers and has all the global Jewish conspiracy theories going. Same old tripe that's been going on since the Middle Ages, while we are left to wonder why a people so shrewd and powerful as the Jews have been so frequently victimized. But yea there are consequences to sourcing a guy like that. C'est La Vie.

EihTooms
06-03-21, 02:23
This from a guy whose party were downplaying and ignoring the disease well into 2020, with Nancy Pelosi going around hugging people in Chinatown and Biden saying that Trump's blocking of flights from China was "racist". Imagine how many more Americans would have died if Trump hadn't stood up to the fake news and democrats in enforcing his ban. Thank God for Trump's strength in the face of leftist lies.

The idea that the Chinese Communist Party would have let the US Government send a team of operatives into Wuhan is so ridiculous and idiotic as to be hilarious, in line with most posts from the wokerati in here.

And now from the Fauci emails released today we discover that he knew that the virus was man-made early in 2020. He also knew that hydroxychloroquine was an effective treatment, as President Trump said, but refused to say so. Many more revelations in there, detailing how Fauci and the rest of the establishment were entirely incompetent and mendacious, focused more on attacking the president than saving lives. Fauci lied, thousands died.The earliest statements and behaviors by Pelosi, Fauci, you, me, everyone that turned out to be mistaken to the point of deadly were the result of our then so-called potus, who we knew had gotten intel unlike anyone else on the planet about it, lying to us about what he knew about the risks, human-to-human spread, the proper mitigating measures to prevent infection, etc, etc, etc. That is pretty much the point I have been making about Trump's cowardice and lies being the main reason 550,000+ Americans died from the virus and that it developed into a Pandemic in the first place.

"There is one case out of China, 15 cases here and soon to be near zero. We've got this under control."
Remember?

Biden never said that Trump's too little too late restriction of some flights from China into the USA was "racist."

Also, have you got a link for your claim that Fauci "knew the virus was man-made" and that "hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment" for coronavirus/Covid-19?

And on your dismissal of the well-documented disastrous Trump economic decisions as early as 2018 (and several more in early 2020) that contributed mightily to turning a likely manageable endemic in an area of China into the Pandemic it became and how you just can't imagine there would be that much USA influence in China in that regard:

Exclusive: US slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronvirus outbreak
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv-idUSKBN21C3N5

WASHINGTON(Reuters) - The Trump administration cut staff by more than two-thirds at a key U.S. public health agency operating inside China, as part of a larger rollback of U.S.-funded health and science experts on the ground there leading up to the coronavirus outbreak, Reuters has learned.

EihTooms
06-03-21, 02:45
https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/here-are-the-top-rated-cable-news-shows-for-april-2021/477372/

"Tucker Carlson Tonight is No. 1 for April 2021, not just in average total audience, but also among adults 25-54."

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20201216005919/en/FOX-News-Channel-Smashes-Records-With-Highest-Rated-Year-in-Cable-News-History-Across-Total-Day-and-Primetime-Viewership

FNC Finishes 2020 as Most-Watched Basic Cable Network for Fifth Consecutive Year, Becomes First Cable News Network Ever to End Year with More Than Three Million Viewers in Primetime.

FNC Remains the Number One Television Network in Weekday Primetime, Outpacing all Broadcast Networks in Total Viewers Beginning in 2 Q'2020.

"Hannity" Tops Cable News for Fourth Year in a Row with Total Viewers, Besting All-Time Record for Highest-Rated Year in Cable News History.

"Tucker Carlson Tonight" Delivers its Highest-Rated Year Ever, Finishes as Most-Watched Cable News Program in 25-54 Demographic.

Two Dozen FNC Programs Deliver Largest Audiences in Network History; FNC Telecasts Make up 41 of the Top 100 Cable Telecasts in 2020".

Shush.Wow. More than 3 million viewers in primetime?

Real evening news programs on the regular broadcast networks, not just on cable, routinely get 2 to 3 times that viewership. Each. You know, the network news programs that "cable news" Fox likes to characterize their "us against them" adversaries?

Even worse for those desperate to believe more Americans get their news from Fox than any other network, that NBC Nightly News program is just fine with competing for viewership ratings against its company's own MSNBC programming and vice versa!

World News Tonight Tops Again In 2020 Amid Boost In Evening News Viewership Overall
https://deadline.com/2020/12/world-news-tonight-david-muir-2020-1234662907/

World News Tonight averaged 9.61 million total viewers for the year, compared to 8.29 million for NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt and 5.92 million for CBS Evening News with Norah ODonnell.

Btw, did you ever stop to wonder why Fox does not have an evening news program on their regular broadcast network as does CBS, NBC and ABC? lol. Think about that a while and let us know what you come up with.

Golfinho
06-03-21, 02:59
As to the post you replied to, Gofinho seems to be unaware that Anti-Semitism long predates the Holocaust, and by centuries. He sources us to known Anti-Semites like E. Michael Jones.You seem to be unaware of the impossibility of anti-Semitism predating Semitism, you know, like putting the cart before the horse.

Paul E. Really has a hard-on for E. Michael Jones. Glad to have introduced you.

Paulie97
06-03-21, 03:24
Also, have you got a link for your claim that Fauci "knew the virus was man-made" and that "hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment" for coronavirus/Covid-19?Excellent question. Can't wait to see what he comes up with. Wink.

Golfinho
06-03-21, 03:31
But yea there are consequences to sourcing a guy like that.https://www.bitchute.com/video/zMAxwWpYjsY/

You're resourced:

Consequences for suppressing the truth. C'est la vie.

EihTooms
06-03-21, 03:41
It's bad enough to see how Trump left the USA practically bare ass naked to prevent or respond quickly and effectively to the inevitable and (to him) forewarned risk of a possible devastating virus spread thanks to his idiotic economic decisions. But it is even worse to consider the unavoidable conclusion that one of his motivations for those spectacularly bad decisions was because former POTUS Barack Obama's name and fingerprints were on those proven systems set up to prevent just such a deadly and economy devastating outcome. And to some degree, so were former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's.

How Trump Gutted Obamas Pandemic-Preparedness Systems.
Former officials: Trumps reshuffling of positions and departments, focus on business solutions, downgrading of science, left the country dangerously unprepared for an unprecedented pandemic.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-obama-coronavirus-pandemic-response

Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-virus-outbreak-barack-obama-public-health-ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a

Obama team left pandemic playbook for Trump administration, officials confirm
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/obama-team-left-pandemic-playbook-for-trump-administration-officials-confirm

Trump Replaced White House Pandemic-Response Team With Jared Kushner
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/trump-fired-pandemic-response-jared-kushner-coronavirus.html

Canada
06-03-21, 04:22
But Donnie didn't qualify his stock market LIE, did he? So, the bottom line is that Donnie lied (again) and the sheep (Republican voters) ate it up.

But Donnie still lied and you keep twisting yourself into knots trying to defend him.Your post makes no sense. Why are you still talking about Trump. Why aren't you defending the USA business from Biden. GM already announced new Billion dollar factory in Mexico to make their electric cars. If you want to defend Biden on this go ahead. Other businesses are already planning their exit.

Canada
06-03-21, 04:26
It's bad enough to see how Trump left the USA practically bare ass naked to prevent or respond quickly and effectively to the inevitable and (to him) forewarned risk of a possible devastating virus spread thanks to his idiotic economic decisions. But it is even worse to consider the unavoidable conclusion that one of his motivations for those spectacularly bad decisions was because former POTUS Barack Obama's name and fingerprints were on those proven systems set up to prevent just such a deadly and economy devastating outcome. And to some degree, so were former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's.

How Trump Gutted Obamas Pandemic-Preparedness Systems.
Former officials: Trumps reshuffling of positions and departments, focus on business solutions, downgrading of science, left the country dangerously unprepared for an unprecedented pandemic.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-obama-coronavirus-pandemic-response

Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-virus-outbreak-barack-obama-public-health-ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a

Obama team left pandemic playbook for Trump administration, officials confirm
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/obama-team-left-pandemic-playbook-for-trump-administration-officials-confirm

Trump Replaced White House Pandemic-Response Team With Jared Kushner
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/trump-fired-pandemic-response-jared-kushner-coronavirus.htmlWhy do you bother with this fake news from liberal news sites. Everyone knows Obama was the one that diverted funds from pandemic to social issues.

PVMonger
06-03-21, 14:09
Why do you bother with this fake news from liberal news sites. Everyone knows Obama was the one that diverted funds from pandemic to social issues.Look how easy it is to be a trumper! Unless trump or some rightwingnut rag says it, it is fake news.

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

GDreams
06-03-21, 18:10
Another example of Republican cancel culture as Trumps blog bites the dust.

It seems no one really care what he has to say anymore. So sad!

PVMonger
06-03-21, 19:03
Why do you bother with this fake news from liberal news sites. Everyone knows Obama was the one that diverted funds from pandemic to social issues.Is this the same "everyone" that whispers in Donnie's ear? Is it the same "everyone" that claims that Donnie is going to be reinstated?

Enquiring minds want to know!

Canada
06-03-21, 21:33
The earliest statements and behaviors by Pelosi, Fauci, you, me, everyone that turned out to be mistaken to the point of deadly were the result of our then so-called potus, who we knew had gotten intel unlike anyone else on the planet about it, lying to us about what he knew about the risks, human-to-human spread, the proper mitigating measures to prevent infection, etc, etc, etc. That is pretty much the point I have been making about Trump's cowardice and lies being the main reason 550,000+ Americans died from the virus and that it developed into a Pandemic in the first place.

"There is one case out of China, 15 cases here and soon to be near zero. We've got this under control."
Remember?

Biden never said that Trump's too little too late restriction of some flights from China into the USA was "racist."

Also, have you got a link for your claim that Fauci "knew the virus was man-made" and that "hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment" for coronavirus/Covid-19?

And on your dismissal of the well-documented disastrous Trump economic decisions as early as 2018 (and several more in early 2020) that contributed mightily to turning a likely manageable endemic in an area of China into the Pandemic it became and how you just can't imagine there would be that much USA influence in China in that regard:

Exclusive: US slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronvirus outbreak
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv-idUSKBN21C3N5Fauci emails prove Trump was right about China. Fauci knew it but hid it because he actually diverted funds to that lab previously. Good news is that it may be criminal and charges may be filed. Bad news is Fauci may have caused several more deaths since he hid it and the fake news media treated him like a hero for going against Trump. Now even CNN is going to have to admit Trump was right but they won't. Probably won't even cover this story. That is why their viewership is down 70% this year.

Paulie97
06-04-21, 00:33
Look how easy it is to be a trumper! Unless trump or some rightwingnut rag says it, it is fake news.

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.It actually is as the cult mentality has it's own in built defenses. For those fully immersed deprogramming is about their only hope. You don't write for those but any in the audience that may be on the fence and formulating their views.

PVMonger
06-04-21, 03:45
Liberals like fake news because they want life to be the way they see it. As long as CNN said Trump was doing bad they believed it. That is why the Liberals are racist and hate USA. CNN and the libtards are always apologizing for USA instead of being proud of their country. Can anyone on this forum explain why libtards hate America, are racist against white people and hate police?Why is it that Republikkkans are scared of the truth? Donnie was bad and 81 million voters threw the biggest loser out of office. Kicked the orange fruitcake to the curb!

I'm sure you are proud of the white, christian part of the USA. But you and the rest of the white supremacist kkkonservatives hate all o'dem darkies and anybody who isn't white. What I want to know is why you deplorables are so blind, hate everybody except white people and hate the police?

GDreams
06-04-21, 12:45
Cooke said "an array of different sources" confirmed a report earlier this week by New York Times journalist Maggie Haberman, who said on Twitter that Trump has been sharing the popular new QAnon talking point.

But Cooke went even further, saying Trump not only believes he'll be put back into the Oval Office but also that he will be gifted with a Republican majority in the Senate, believing that two Democrats will be booted from Congress and replaced by the GOP candidates they defeated.

He cautioned conservatives against downplaying or dismissing the report.

"This is not merely an eccentric interpretation of the facts or an interesting foible, nor is it an irrelevant example of anguished post-presidency chatter," he wrote. "It is a rejection of reality, a rejection of law, and, ultimately, a rejection of the entire system of American government. "

Trump, he wrote, is "so unmoored from the real world that it is hard to know where to begin in attempting to explain him. "

Nothing Biden could do that could be more insane than what is spinning around in Trumps brain.

Chris P
06-04-21, 14:22
Excellent question. Can't wait to see what he comes up with. Wink.Both are in his emails which were recently revealed.

Chris P
06-04-21, 14:24
Wow. More than blablablaOnce again, having been proven wrong on your false assertion that Rachel Madcow (sic) is the most watched host in cable news, you attempt to change the subject and introduce non-sequiturs. Tiresome and boring. Like the endless fake news about Russia, Avenatti, etc, all of which clowns like you lapped up for years.

Chris P
06-04-21, 14:26
Fauci emails prove Trump was right about China. Fauci knew it but hid it because he actually diverted funds to that lab previously. Good news is that it may be criminal and charges may be filed. Bad news is Fauci may have caused several more deaths since he hid it and the fake news media treated him like a hero for going against Trump. Now even CNN is going to have to admit Trump was right but they won't. Probably won't even cover this story. That is why their viewership is down 70% this year.Great post. Rand Paul has done some excellent work exposing Fauci's lies and evasion on this issue. We all know that if Fauci had aided Trump or the right in any way, the left would be coming after him with criminal indictments by now. Time for us to do the same now that we know from his emails that his lies cost lives.

PVMonger
06-04-21, 18:46
Great post. Rand Paul has done some excellent work exposing Fauci's lies and evasion on this issue. We all know that if Fauci had aided Trump or the right in any way, the left would be coming after him with criminal indictments by now. Time for us to do the same now that we know from his emails that his lies cost lives.This is just another Republikkkan attempt to cherry pick a few emails and try to make something out of nothing.

What you kkkonserves fail to mention (of course) is that the orange fruitcake said China DELIBERATELY weaponized and released the virus: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/05/trumps-supporters-are-getting-lab-leak-story-backward/619004/ And here's one about the same subject from a rightwingnut rag: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/14/china-weaponized-covid-19-against-america/.

In any case, continue to blather on. Nobody is listening. And when you need brain surgery or hemorrhoid surgery (in you case the location is the same) maybe Rand should do it. I know you think he's qualified.

The orange fruitcake LOST. Bigly. And, guess what? He ain't going to be '"reinstated". Not in August. Not in any other month. Unless, of course, he becomes the president* of Riker's Island.

Canada
06-04-21, 20:33
Why is it that Republikkkans are scared of the truth? Donnie was bad and 81 million voters threw the biggest loser out of office. Kicked the orange fruitcake to the curb!

I'm sure you are proud of the white, christian part of the USA. But you and the rest of the white supremacist kkkonservatives hate all o'dem darkies and anybody who isn't white. What I want to know is why you deplorables are so blind, hate everybody except white people and hate the police?Trump was great for America just not for democrats and criminals. I am proud to be Christian. Christian is a lot better than racism. I am proud of every American that is loyal to the USA. It is the democrats who treat the black community so bad. Look at the black neighborhoods in democratic cities. That is democratic racism the way they are treated.

Why are you avoiding answering such simple questions? Why do democrats hate America? Why do you hate America? Why do democrats hate police and safety in the streets? Why do you hate white people. Why are democrats supporting democratic leaders whose policy on crime is to get rid of prisons? Why are democrats such losers?

Chris P
06-05-21, 00:17
Cooke said "an array of different sources"....None of them named. So she made it up. Like all the rest of the fake news of recent years (Russia hoax, Avenatti, etc).

Meanwhile the real scandals on Hunter's laptop and election fraud are covered up. Truly banana republic territory. It won't end well.

Chris P
06-05-21, 00:22
This is just another Republikkkan attempt to cherry pick a few emails and try to make something out of nothing.

What you kkkonserves fail to mention (of course) is that the orange fruitcake said China DELIBERATELY weaponized and released the virus: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/05/trumps-supporters-are-getting-lab-leak-story-backward/619004/ And here's one about the same subject from a rightwingnut rag: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/14/china-weaponized-covid-19-against-america/.

In any case, continue to blather on. Nobody is listening. And when you need brain surgery or hemorrhoid surgery (in you case the location is the same) maybe Rand should do it. I know you think he's qualified.

The orange fruitcake LOST. Bigly. And, guess what? He ain't going to be '"reinstated". Not in August. Not in any other month. Unless, of course, he becomes the president* of Riker's Island.First the Arizona recount, now Fauci's lies exposed. Trump still has 90% support among Republicans. Biden's dementia is getting worse. Half the country still says the election was fraudulent (and the reality is higher): all the fake news and social media censorship hasn't made a dent. You're rattled. And you're right to be.

Xpartan
06-05-21, 04:42
First the Arizona recount, now Fauci's lies exposed. Trump still has 90% support among Republicans. Biden's dementia is getting worse. Half the country still says the election was fraudulent (and the reality is higher): all the fake news and social media censorship hasn't made a dent. You're rattled. And you're right to be.All the statements above are false.

Xpartan
06-05-21, 04:43
Christian is a lot better than racism.Who's Christian?

EihTooms
06-05-21, 11:38
Once again, having been proven wrong on your false assertion that Rachel Madcow (sic) is the most watched host in cable news, you attempt to change the subject and introduce non-sequiturs. Tiresome and boring. Like the endless fake news about Russia, Avenatti, etc, all of which clowns like you lapped up for years.LOL. Days have past and you are still unable to provide links for stuff you claimed Biden and Fauci said like the link I provided for Maddow's first quarter ratings.

I'll take that as proof that there aren't any and you just made up that stuff or merely repeated what some other noodnik made up. Probably Tucker Carlson.

GDreams
06-05-21, 11:57
First the Arizona recount, now Fauci's lies exposed. Trump still has 90% support among Republicans. Biden's dementia is getting worse. Half the country still says the election was fraudulent (and the reality is higher): all the fake news and social media censorship hasn't made a dent. You're rattled. And you're right to be.Arizona was recounted. Trump lost. End of story. The fake recount initiated by the Arizona senate has already been so thoroughly discredited that it will never be taken seriously if it ever gets completed. Illegal pens, illegal volunteers, non accredited contractor, illegal tampering of machines, lack of ballot security. Why bother doing the exercise and go to the Trump standard of lets just make up the numbers.

GDreams
06-05-21, 12:06
None of them named. So she made it up. Like all the rest of the fake news of recent years (Russia hoax, Avenatti, etc).

Meanwhile the real scandals on Hunter's laptop and election fraud are covered up. Truly banana republic territory. It won't end well.You mean the Trump lie machine. Someone said last week. Many people have told me! Standard Trump speak but we all know this is true because it is entirely consistent with his rambling utterances.

Hunter Biden scandal? What is that? Just more what abouts. If he has done something wrong let him face the consequences just like Don Jnr should be prosecuted for the Russian orphan meeting to dig up dirt on Hillary or the scandal machine that is Rudy and lets not forget the criminal investigations into Trump and his mafia corporation.

The only election fraud is The Trump steal lie. Countless court cases in which no evidence was presented, recount after recount done by officially accredited agencies that confirm the counts. But keep on dreaming and repeating the big lie but its not going to change anything.

GDreams
06-05-21, 12:20
Trump was great for America just not for democrats and criminals. I am proud to be Christian. Christian is a lot better than racism. I am proud of every American that is loyal to the USA. It is the democrats who treat the black community so bad. Look at the black neighborhoods in democratic cities. That is democratic racism the way they are treated.

Why are you avoiding answering such simple questions? Why do democrats hate America? Why do you hate America? Why do democrats hate police and safety in the streets? Why do you hate white people. Why are democrats supporting democratic leaders whose policy on crime is to get rid of prisons? Why are democrats such losers?Trump was great for Democrats, they gained the house, presidency and senate. Trump was great for corporate criminals.

Why do you hate democracy? Why do you love racism? Why if Republican policies are so great that they need to Gerrymander so badly and try to restrict people voting?

You are clearly not a Christian because Republicans are the antithesis of Christs teachings.

Democrats do not hate America, you do because you do not support the constitution. You support an assault against the the Government of the country, an attempted coup. The US has the highest incarceration rates in the world. There is clearly a problem that is not being addressed by the prison system. Your other statements are not worth responding to as they are demonstrably incorrect.

Member #4698
06-05-21, 12:36
"They told the world that the Covid-19 virus clearly couldn't have been manipulated in the laboratory. But what they actually thought at first sight was that it had been.

The letter from five virologists published in Nature Medicine on March 17,2020, was the single most influential statement in capturing the public narrative about the origin of SARS-CoV-2. Here was an authoritative statement from leading experts assuring the public that in terms of the virus's origin "we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible. "

But that's the exact opposite of what these experts thought after taking their first look at the virus. A large batch of emails exchanged with Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, was made available this week to BuzzFeed and the Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act. For the most part the emails concern meeting arrangements or messages from cranks and have been redacted of any meaningful information. But one significant email escaped the censor's black marker.

On Jan. 31,2020, shortly after the SARS-CoV-2 genome had been decoded, Kristian Andersen, the five virologists' leader, emailed Dr. Fauci that there were "unusual features" in the virus. These took up only a small percentage of the genome, so that "one has to look really closely at all the sequences to see that some of the features (potentially) look engineered. "

Mr. Andersen went on to note that he and his team "all find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory. " It isn't clear exactly what he meant by this striking phrase. But anything inconsistent with an evolutionary origin has to be man-made.

This remarkable email establishes that the Andersen team's initial reaction was to suspect that SARS-CoV-2 had been engineered in a lab. Their subsequent letter doesn't adequately explain how they overcame this impression.

The furin cleavage site, a small element of the virus that they doubtless had in mind when referring to "unusual features," is an anomalous genetic insertion that could be a sign of laboratory manipulation. The distinguished virologist David Baltimore has called it a smoking gun and "a powerful challenge to the idea of a natural origin for SARS2. "

The Andersen team in its letter discusses how the virus could have acquired the furin cleavage site naturally. Their best suggestion is that SARS-CoV-2 picked up the necessary genetic information from people after it had made its jump from bats. But no evidence for this idea has emerged. And it's hard to see why the Andersen team decided that this conjecture should outweigh the appearance of laboratory manipulation.

As virologists, all had a professional interest in not provoking a storm of public condemnation over gain-of-function experiments, the bland name for genetically enhancing the pathogenic power of viruses. After taking one look at the horrific possibility that a lab leak origin for SARS-CoV-2 might cause virology labs all over the world to be closed down, it would seem, the Andersen team decided to disregard their first impressions of possible manipulation. Recall what they said in their letter: "We do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible. "

Dr. Fauci has long suggested that the virus emerged naturally—until the past few weeks, when he started to allow that lab escape is possible and should be investigated. The Jan. 31,2020, email from Mr. Andersen shows that Dr. Fauci knew from the beginning that experts had serious suspicions about the virus's origins. There were many other matters on his agenda at the time, but it's too bad he didn't ask for an independent panel, one not dominated by virologists, to look into the possibility that Chinese researchers genetically manipulating coronaviruses in low-level safety conditions had sparked a global pandemic. "

PVMonger
06-05-21, 14:29
Trump was great for America just not for democrats and criminals. I am proud to be Christian. Christian is a lot better than racism. I am proud of every American that is loyal to the USA. It is the democrats who treat the black community so bad. Look at the black neighborhoods in democratic cities. That is democratic racism the way they are treated.

Why are you avoiding answering such simple questions? Why do democrats hate America? Why do you hate America? Why do democrats hate police and safety in the streets? Why do you hate white people. Why are democrats supporting democratic leaders whose policy on crime is to get rid of prisons? Why are democrats such losers?I have answered every single one of your questions.

1. Why do democrats hate America? Democrats invaded the capitol building on January 6th?

2. Why do democrats hate America? Democrats tried to overturn the 2020 election?

3. Why do you hate America? If not voting for the orange fruitcake means I hate America, then I'm proudly guilty.

4. Why do democrats hate police and safety in the streets? Democrats killed and injured Capitol Police officers on January 6th?

5. Why do you hate white people. Unlike you, I don't own a klan hood.

6. Why are democrats supporting democratic leaders whose policy on crime is to get rid of prisons? Why did republikkkans vote against a January 6th commission?

7. Why are democrats such losers? Who lost the last presidential election?

PVMonger
06-05-21, 14:33
First the Arizona recount, now Fauci's lies exposed. Trump still has 90% support among Republicans. Biden's dementia is getting worse. Half the country still says the election was fraudulent (and the reality is higher): all the fake news and social media censorship hasn't made a dent. You're rattled. And you're right to be.Rattled? I think not.

Canada
06-05-21, 15:40
I have answered every single one of your questions.

1. Why do democrats hate America? Democrats invaded the capitol building on January 6th?

2. Why do democrats hate America? Democrats tried to overturn the 2020 election?

3. Why do you hate America? If not voting for the orange fruitcake means I hate America, then I'm proudly guilty.

4. Why do democrats hate police and safety in the streets? Democrats killed and injured Capitol Police officers on January 6th?

5. Why do you hate white people. Unlike you, I don't own a klan hood.

6. Why are democrats supporting democratic leaders whose policy on crime is to get rid of prisons? Why did republikkkans vote against a January 6th commission?

7. Why are democrats such losers? Who lost the last presidential election?Since you did not have one intelligent answer I confirm my point. No wonder you are a loser.

PVMonger
06-05-21, 16:30
Since you did not have one intelligent answer I confirm my point. No wonder you are a loser.Only a fool would say this. Congrats!

D Cups
06-05-21, 18:31
Since you did not have one intelligent answer I confirm my point. No wonder you are a loser.Mr. Canada, all the libtards are losers. They'd rather suck off the government's hind teat than work for a living. If they do work, they'd rather have the unions tell them who to vote for. They'd rather become socialists than take responsibility for anything.

Canada
06-05-21, 19:19
Mr. Canada, all the libtards are losers. They'd rather suck off the government's hind teat than work for a living. If they do work, they'd rather have the unions tell them who to vote for. They'd rather become socialists than take responsibility for anything.Exactly. You hit the nail on the head.

Canada
06-05-21, 19:21
Only a fool would say this. Congrats!A fool just answered my post.

PVMonger
06-05-21, 19:34
Mr. Canada, all the libtards are losers. They'd rather suck off the government's hind teat than work for a living. If they do work, they'd rather have the unions tell them who to vote for. They'd rather become socialists than take responsibility for anything.Two can play this game.

All kkkonservatives are racists and cultists. They would rather overturn election results than actually govern. They would rather suck off trump than do anything else. They want the orange fruitcake to tell them what to do. They are so scared of women and minorities that they want to regulate them out of existence.

All kkkonservatives are so scared of what a bipartisan commission on January 6th would uncover that they don't w.

Anybody who thinks the orange fruitcake is still president is as big a loser as twice-impeached Donnie the loser.

Xpartan
06-05-21, 22:11
Let's not forget that this is an opinion piece. For one thing it contains serious 'allowances'. Presuming that "anything inconsistent with an evolutionary origin has to be man-made" is ludicrous. There are inconsistences in the theory of evolution that can't be explained outright.

But let's presume the virus did escape from the laboratory. Does it prove a malicious intent or cover up? Only in the same delusional mindset that still believes in the "election steal" after dozens of recounts and court cases have proven it to be a lunacy.

Not everything in science is clear cut. Scientist make mistakes all the time. But assigning malicious intents to a world-class scientist like Dr. Fauci tells more about crackpots who sling those moronic allegations than Fauci.

Not to say we don't need to investigate. We do, but it's got to be a scientific probe, not political.

Which is a wishful thinking, I know.


"They told the world that the Covid-19 virus clearly couldn't have been manipulated in the laboratory. But what they actually thought at first sight was that it had been.

The letter from five virologists published in Nature Medicine on March 17,2020, was the single most influential statement in capturing the public narrative about the origin of SARS-CoV-2. Here was an authoritative statement from leading experts assuring the public that in terms of the virus's origin "we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible. "

Canada
06-05-21, 22:29
Let's not forget that this is an opinion piece. For one thing it contains serious 'allowances'. Presuming that "anything inconsistent with an evolutionary origin has to be man-made" is ludicrous. There are inconsistences in the theory of evolution that can't be explained outright.

But let's presume the virus did escape from the laboratory. Does it prove a malicious intent or cover up? Only in the same delusional mindset that still believes in the "election steal" after dozens of recounts and court cases have proven it to be a lunacy.

Not everything in science is clear cut. Scientist make mistakes all the time. But assigning malicious intents to a world-class scientist like Dr. Fauci tells more about crackpots who sling those moronic allegations than Fauci.

Not to say we don't need to investigate. We do, but it's got to be a scientific probe, not political.

Which is a wishful thinking, I know.There needs to be an investigation by several countries not just Biden cronies. If Biden staff investigates China will be cleared of all wrong doing. There is no proof that it was malicious but I think an investigation might prove it was. It appears now that Dr Fauci is one of those crackpots. I think the investigation will prove malicious intent. Even the democratic university scientists from Stanford and other big name colleges are calling for full investigation into Fauci. About time.

Paulie97
06-05-21, 22:38
I have answered every single one of your questions.

1. Why do democrats hate America? Democrats invaded the capitol building on January 6th?

2. Why do democrats hate America? Democrats tried to overturn the 2020 election?

3. Why do you hate America? If not voting for the orange fruitcake means I hate America, then I'm proudly guilty.

4. Why do democrats hate police and safety in the streets? Democrats killed and injured Capitol Police officers on January 6th?

5. Why do you hate white people. Unlike you, I don't own a klan hood.

6. Why are democrats supporting democratic leaders whose policy on crime is to get rid of prisons? Why did republikkkans vote against a January 6th commission?

7. Why are democrats such losers? Who lost the last presidential election?A lot of good answers here. The questions you are answering of course are loaded, and is his MO, to type out lists of loaded questions which assume "facts" not entered into evidence. It's of the least sophisticated logical fallacies. When it's all someone has in their arsenal it shows they've matured little if any beyond high school.

https://fallacyinlogic.com/loaded-question-fallacy/

Chris P
06-05-21, 23:01
Let's not forget that this is an opinion piece......Not everything in science is clear cut. Scientist make mistakes all the time.Haha! Fauci gets flat out caught red-handed in a lie, claiming he was certain the virus was natural in origin when he was told back in January 2020 that it was man-made; and of course the fake news leftists start bleating about how "science is not clear cut". LOL. Then why did Fakebook and the rest of social media and mainstream fake news brutally censor the many scientists offering an alternative opinion on covid, lockdown, and much more?

Typical double standards. When it suits them, it's "I FCUKING love science!" When it doesn't, it's "nothing is clear cut in science". When antifa / BLM burns a city and attacks federal buildings, it's a peaceful protest. When Trump supporters file peacefully through a federal building after being invited in by police and cause no damage, it's an insurrection. When General Petraeus used an unsecure email in a few messages to his girlfriend, he was forced to resign, prosecuted and destroyed. When Crooked Hillary Clinton used an unsecure email for far longer and far more systematically in order to conceal her various crooked deals as Secretary of State, nothing happened to her. When Biden openly bribes the Ukrainians with a billion dollars in US taxpayer money to end in investigation into his crooked crack-smoking son's corrupt deals, nothing happens. When Trump asks the Ukrainians to look into it, he gets impeached.

The further the aggressive, hypocritical leftist lunacy goes, the more convinced I am that we cannot live with these people for whom reality is merely an obstacle for their GloboHomo Marxist plans.

Chris P
06-05-21, 23:07
Arizona was recounted. Trump lost. End of story. The fake recount initiated by the Arizona senate has already been so thoroughly discredited that it will never be taken seriously if it ever gets completed. Illegal pens, illegal volunteers, non accredited contractor, illegal tampering of machines, lack of ballot security. Why bother doing the exercise and go to the Trump standard of lets just make up the numbers.For a "fake recount", the democrats and fake news sure are keen to get it stopped! Why not just ignore it if it is so "discredited"? They're rattled, as are you. They thought Americans would just surrender to the fraud, but still the spirit of freedom and truth shines despite their best efforts.

The recount will be full, thorough, and verified. That is why it is taking so long. We will see what the results are when they arrive.

Chris P
06-05-21, 23:10
Democrats do not hate America, you do because you do not support the constitution.Democrats do hate America, which is why they spent the last year burning its cities. And they do not support the constitution, as they breached it in order to engineer fraudulent mass mail-in voting without legislation from the state legislatures.

Chris P
06-05-21, 23:13
LOL. Days have past and you are still unable to provide links for stuff you claimed Biden and Fauci said like the link I provided for Maddow's first quarter ratings.

I'll take that as proof that there aren't any and you just made up that stuff or merely repeated what some other noodnik made up. Probably Tucker Carlson.I already destroyed your ridiculous Maddow assertion. See Natty Bumpo's post below for more forensic analysis of Fauci's lies. The great Tucker Carlson did indeed do two devastating forensic analyses in the opening segment of his Wednesday and Thursday shows.

Paulie97
06-05-21, 23:22
Rattled? I think not.Trump's support among Repubs is waning, and according to a number of recent polls is well below the 90% your buddy Chris claims. Wink. Also the percentage of Repubs that believe the election was stolen is around 60%, and you can bet your last dollar that this group is heavily weighted toward those without college degrees. That said we are in the driver seat, the winner circle while your poorly educated Repubs are reduced to tears, crying foul over the election they lost. This even though Trump was crying "rigged" long before the first vote was cast. He knew he was going to lose and had the excuse implanted in the minds of fools well in advance.

Paulie97
06-06-21, 01:19
Let's not forget that this is an opinion piece. For one thing it contains serious 'allowances'. Presuming that "anything inconsistent with an evolutionary origin has to be man-made" is ludicrous. There are inconsistences in the theory of evolution that can't be explained outright.

But let's presume the virus did escape from the laboratory. Does it prove a malicious intent or cover up? Only in the same delusional mindset that still believes in the "election steal" after dozens of recounts and court cases have proven it to be a lunacy.

Not everything in science is clear cut. Scientist make mistakes all the time. But assigning malicious intents to a world-class scientist like Dr. Fauci tells more about crackpots who sling those moronic allegations than Fauci.

Not to say we don't need to investigate. We do, but it's got to be a scientific probe, not political.

Which is a wishful thinking, I know.After Trump's constant downplaying of the pandemic for his own selfish political ends, mocking mask wearers, prescribing bleach, claiming the numbers were cooked and that it would go away with the warm weather, signing on a quack radiologist (Atlas) who pushed the failed Swedish herd immunity model, then claiming the pandemic would end after the election, etc etc the Repubs have had an insatiable appetite for whataboutisms, conspiracy theories, and any and all distractions. Meanwhile Michael Flynn is calling for a Myanmar style coup and Sidney Powell claims Trump will be "reinstated" by August. Whatever.

EihTooms
06-06-21, 02:47
I already destroyed your ridiculous Maddow assertion. See Natty Bumpo's post below for more forensic analysis of Fauci's lies. The great Tucker Carlson did indeed do two devastating forensic analyses in the opening segment of his Wednesday and Thursday shows.I didn't assert anything about Maddow. I just posted a link citing her very good cable news ratings. But we're talking about cable news shows, none of which are watched by nearly as many people as the big three broadcast network news shows.

Oh, since you couldn't come up with any suggestion for why ratings-hungry Fox does not have its own evening news program on their regular broadcast network as does ABC, NBC and CBS, I will suggest it is because that program would have to tell the truth as much as reasonably possible or get its free airwaves access license yanked.

So it would be very awkward for this hypothetical "Fox Evening News" program to be reporting the truth about, say, Trump's paltry inauguration crowd to Trump's violent anti-America, cop-attacking, America-hating insurrection mob and everything in between on regular broadcast while Tucker Carlson, Hannity, Ingraham and other Fox liars were busy promoting lies about it on the cable news version.

Consequently, Fox leaves a lot of potential money and added viewership bragging rights on the table by not having such a broadcast network evening news program just so they can get away with lying to you without worry that their possibly only real news show on the broadcast airwaves was contradicting every lie told on their fake news cable channel.

NBC and MSNBC does not appear to be worried about that.

EihTooms
06-06-21, 03:43
"They told the world that the Covid-19 virus clearly couldn't have been manipulated in the laboratory. But what they actually thought at first sight was that it had been.

The letter from five virologists published in Nature Medicine on March 17,2020, was the single most influential statement in capturing the public narrative about the origin of SARS-CoV-2. Here was an authoritative statement from leading experts assuring the public that in terms of the virus's origin "we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible. "

But that's the exact opposite of what these experts thought after taking their first look at the virus. A large batch of emails exchanged with Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, was made available this week to BuzzFeed and the Washington Post under the Freedom of Information Act. For the most part the emails concern meeting arrangements or messages from cranks and have been redacted of any meaningful information. But one significant email escaped the censor's black marker.

On Jan. 31,2020, shortly after the SARS-CoV-2 genome had been decoded, Kristian Andersen, the five virologists' leader, emailed Dr. Fauci that there were "unusual features" in the virus. These took up only a small percentage of the genome, so that "one has to look really closely at all the sequences to see that some of the features (potentially) look engineered. "

Mr. Andersen went on to note that he and his team "all find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory. " It isn't clear exactly what he meant by this striking phrase. But anything inconsistent with an evolutionary origin has to be man-made.

This remarkable email establishes that the Andersen team's initial reaction was to suspect that SARS-CoV-2 had been engineered in a lab. Their subsequent letter doesn't adequately explain how they overcame this impression.

The furin cleavage site, a small element of the virus that they doubtless had in mind when referring to "unusual features," is an anomalous genetic insertion that could be a sign of laboratory manipulation. The distinguished virologist David Baltimore has called it a smoking gun and "a powerful challenge to the idea of a natural origin for SARS2. "

The Andersen team in its letter discusses how the virus could have acquired the furin cleavage site naturally. Their best suggestion is that SARS-CoV-2 picked up the necessary genetic information from people after it had made its jump from bats. But no evidence for this idea has emerged. And it's hard to see why the Andersen team decided that this conjecture should outweigh the appearance of laboratory manipulation.

As virologists, all had a professional interest in not provoking a storm of public condemnation over gain-of-function experiments, the bland name for genetically enhancing the pathogenic power of viruses. After taking one look at the horrific possibility that a lab leak origin for SARS-CoV-2 might cause virology labs all over the world to be closed down, it would seem, the Andersen team decided to disregard their first impressions of possible manipulation. Recall what they said in their letter: "We do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible. "

Dr. Fauci has long suggested that the virus emerged naturallyuntil the past few weeks, when he started to allow that lab escape is possible and should be investigated. The Jan. 31,2020, email from Mr. Andersen shows that Dr. Fauci knew from the beginning that experts had serious suspicions about the virus's origins. There were many other matters on his agenda at the time, but it's too bad he didn't ask for an independent panel, one not dominated by virologists, to look into the possibility that Chinese researchers genetically manipulating coronaviruses in low-level safety conditions had sparked a global pandemic. "Natty, what exactly is the precious "gotcha!" Trumpsters hope to win if it turns out the virus did leak from a lab instead of the far more typical zoonotic mode? My earliest impressions from everything I read previously was only that it was more likely to have originated from a bat rather than created or leaked from a lab in the same way it is more likely the hoof beats you hear outside an Iowa farm house are from horses and not from zebras. It was always clear to me it was only more plausible one way over the other and not that it was "impossible" to have originated in or leaked from a lab. Never heard Fauci say it was impossible.

And now the WSJ opinion piece you quoted from merely states Fauci thinks the lab leak theory ought to be investigated, not that he has concluded or ever "knew it came from a lab" as was asserted by someone else here.

Here is the link for the WSJ opinion piece, btw:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fauci-email-bolsters-the-lab-leak-theory-11622830092

Lab leak, zoonotic mode, Tinker Bell's pixie dust or something else, sure we want to know how it originated in order to help prevent it from happening again. But the Wuhan wet market connection was really about the first documented super spreading cite, not so much that it "originated" there.

Of course, if it turns out a Chinese lab created the virus as a weapon to unleash on the world, that would be an important discovery. But it would only make Trump's high praise of Xi's transparancy and help in controling the spread in early 2020 look worse as well as the Trump administration resuming the funding for those labs after the Obama administration had put it on pause to investigate the possibility.

PVMonger
06-06-21, 04:15
Haha! Fauci gets flat out caught red-handed in a lie, claiming he was certain the virus was natural in origin when he was told back in January 2020 that it was man-made; and of course the fake news leftists start bleating about how "science is not clear cut". LOL. Then why did Fakebook and the rest of social media and mainstream fake news brutally censor the many scientists offering an alternative opinion on covid, lockdown, and much more?

Typical double standards. When it suits them, it's "I FCUKING love science!" When it doesn't, it's "nothing is clear cut in science". When antifa / BLM burns a city and attacks federal buildings, it's a peaceful protest. When Trump supporters file peacefully through a federal building after being invited in by police and cause no damage, it's an insurrection. When General Petraeus used an unsecure email in a few messages to his girlfriend, he was forced to resign, prosecuted and destroyed. When Crooked Hillary Clinton used an unsecure email for far longer and far more systematically in order to conceal her various crooked deals as Secretary of State, nothing happened to her. When Biden openly bribes the Ukrainians with a billion dollars in US taxpayer money to end in investigation into his crooked crack-smoking son's corrupt deals, nothing happens. When Trump asks the Ukrainians to look into it, he gets impeached..Still trying to rewrite history, I see.

You really need to stop believing in fairytales. The orange fruitcake lost. He got kicked to to curb and yet a large majority of republikkkans are told what to think by someone considered so dangerous to democracy and society that he has been banned from social media. He tried to start his own blog but failed at that too. Truly the bigget loser.

"GloboHomo"? Brilliant. Just goes to show that republikkkans are homophobic, misogynistic, racist, xenophobic etc. Too scared to live among "different people"? Go to one of these countries. They, like you, hate everybody:

1. Afghanistan.

2. Sudan.

3. Yemen.

4. Egypt.

5. Iran.

6. Libya.

7. Mauritania.

8. Central African Republic.

9. Russia.

10. Democratic Republic of Congo.

PVMonger
06-06-21, 04:20
I already destroyed your ridiculous Maddow assertion. See Natty Bumpo's post below for more forensic analysis of Fauci's lies. The great Tucker Carlson did indeed do two devastating forensic analyses in the opening segment of his Wednesday and Thursday shows.Is this the same Tucker Carlson whose legal defense to a lawsuit was that only an idiot would believe any of his "facts"?

https://www.courierherald.com/opinion/the-tucker-carlson-defense/

Stykler
06-06-21, 05:18
I am proud to be Christian. Christian is a lot better than racism. So if you're on a hooker forum you must be the typical hypocritical Christian. Thanks for confirming the theory.

Xpartan
06-06-21, 05:23
Even the democratic university scientists from Stanford and other big name colleges are calling for full investigation into Fauci. About time.No shit?

Gee, you got to be so lonely, huh? Here's my parting gift. Enjoy.

https://youtu.be/yg7etfg9GV4

PVMonger
06-06-21, 20:59
For a "fake recount", the democrats and fake news sure are keen to get it stopped! Why not just ignore it if it is so "discredited"? They're rattled, as are you. They thought Americans would just surrender to the fraud, but still the spirit of freedom and truth shines despite their best efforts.

The recount will be full, thorough, and verified. That is why it is taking so long. We will see what the results are when they arrive.Just for grins, maybe you can enlighten us on all of the experience "Cyber Ninjas" has in conducting election recounts. The fact that Cyber Ninjas is run by a trump supporter doesn't count as "experience". Are Cyber Ninjas certified by the USA Elections Assistance Commission?

Canada
06-06-21, 23:31
So if you're on a hooker forum you must be the typical hypocritical Christian. Thanks for confirming the theory.I think there are more Christians like me on this forum than Atheists like you on this forum.

Stykler
06-07-21, 00:20
I think there are more Christians like me on this forum than Atheists like you on this forum.I agree with you 100%, Christian hypocrisy putrefies everywhere.

GDreams
06-07-21, 02:29
Just for grins, maybe you can enlighten us on all of the experience "Cyber Ninjas" has in conducting election recounts. The fact that Cyber Ninjas is run by a trump supporter doesn't count as "experience". Are Cyber Ninjas certified by the USA Elections Assistance Commission?This recount will take years. If they find nothing they will not admit it and if they find something it will be litigated into oblivion because they are so lax in their security and incompetent in their procedures. Yes a certified auditor could have been used but how will the outcome be rigged if that were done? Now the machines have to be decertified because the proper procedures were not undertaken. But gullible Trump supporters have never been interested in facts or the logic they just want to be told what they want to hear.

GDreams
06-07-21, 02:39
I think there are more Christians like me on this forum than Atheists like you on this forum.You are clearly not a Christian as you don't follow the teachings of Christ. Instead of spending your time here read the teachings of Christ. You will find them in the New testament. Not the Old testament, not Revelations. Christ came to earth to provide guidance about what God really wanted which was diametrically opposed to the Old Testament (aka Judaism). You are clearly rooted in the Old Testament.

GDreams
06-07-21, 02:54
Haha! Fauci gets flat out caught red-handed in a lie, claiming he was certain the virus was natural in origin when he was told back in January 2020 that it was man-made; and of course the fake news leftists start bleating about how "science is not clear cut". LOL. Then why did Fakebook and the rest of social media and mainstream fake news brutally censor the many scientists offering an alternative opinion on covid, lockdown, and much more?

Typical double standards. When it suits them, it's "I FCUKING love science!" When it doesn't, it's "nothing is clear cut in science". When antifa / BLM burns a city and attacks federal buildings, it's a peaceful protest. When Trump supporters file peacefully through a federal building after being invited in by police and cause no damage, it's an insurrection. When General Petraeus used an unsecure email in a few messages to his girlfriend, he was forced to resign, prosecuted and destroyed. When Crooked Hillary Clinton used an unsecure email for far longer and far more systematically in order to conceal her various crooked deals as Secretary of State, nothing happened to her. When Biden openly bribes the Ukrainians with a billion dollars in US taxpayer money to end in investigation into his crooked crack-smoking son's corrupt deals, nothing happens. When Trump asks the Ukrainians to look into it, he gets impeached.

The further the aggressive, hypocritical leftist lunacy goes, the more convinced I am that we cannot live with these people for whom reality is merely an obstacle for their GloboHomo Marxist plans.Trump got caught telling 30,000 lies and that does not bother you at all.

Petraeus discussed classified information with his girlfriend. On April 23,2015, Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified materials. He was given a two-year probationary period and a fine of $100,000. The Ukraine story has been debunked so many times it is not funny. But you don't care that it is a lie you just want a moron like Trump to keep destroying the country with his lies.

GDreams
06-07-21, 03:06
Just saw this and it perfectly explains Canada!

The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree. Yeah, makes perfect sense.

GDreams
06-07-21, 06:58
Natty, what exactly is the precious "gotcha!" Trumpsters hope to win if it turns out the virus did leak from a lab instead of the far more typical zoonotic mode? Exactly! It was irrelevant at the time. Far more relevant was getting the administration to deal with the problem. So we now have a number of variants, are they man made? Did India develop their own super strain and release it on themselves?

It makes me laugh when people worry about nuclear weapons when the cost of setting up a biowarfare lab is much cheaper and much less traceable. Historically plagues have wiped out 30% of the population, the Spanish flu was responsible for 50 m, pandemics happen and new strains are always evolving. It is only a matter of time for something new and deadly to come along irrespective of the origin. Hopefully someone more competent than Trump will be in charge.

Elvis 2008
06-07-21, 20:49
Natty, what exactly is the precious "gotcha!" Trumpsters hope to win if it turns out the virus did leak from a lab instead of the far more typical zoonotic mode? My earliest impressions from everything I read previously was only that it was more likely to have originated from a bat rather than created or leaked from a lab in the same way it is more likely the hoof beats you hear outside an Iowa farm house are from horses and not from zebras.First off, this is not about Trump as Tucker Carlson said. That you Dems keep going back to that is sad.

What it is about is whether we as a people should blindly follow scientists. A favorite Democratic tactic is to say Republicans are not listening to scientists. I call the political actors we have like Fauci "scientists" because so much of what he was talking about was out of his ass. That you Dems just excuse his no mask, one mask, two masks routine is pathetic.

What has come about with the whole Fauci fiasco is that he controlled 99% of the grants the NIH doled out, $32 billion total. A Washington Post reporter said on Joe Rogan's show that a number of scientists were very skeptical of Fauci's claim of where the virus came from, but they were not willing to speak out for fear, and this reporter was very critical of Trump. He was clearly a Democratic leaning but critical of the new found Democratic plague of censorship.

Unlike you Democratic brethren, I am able to be critical of Trump. I remember when Trump listened to President Xi of China who lied and said the virus was contained. Okay, so Trump fucked up. Does it bother you then when Biden said, "Come on, man, China is no problem. "? If not, then why not?

In other words, if you wanted a grant, you had not to look for truth but do the kind of research Fauci wanted, and Fauci wanted scientists to fuck around with and create super viruses.

Did you know that the Anthrax scare of 2001 was a strain created in an American army lab?

Did you also know that Fauci has approved grants keeping super viruses in the USA as well?

Given that information, let me ask you, if the lab leak is not important, then what the hell is? Do you want a lab where scientists are fucking around making viruses even more potent in your back yard?

All you Dems have been calling Republicans stupid because we do not listen to this degreed people. Well, what the emails show is that Fauci was just as political if not more so than Biden or Trump.

My favorite tactic with regards to science and politics is the poll taken for global warming and climate change. The data is not there so the CC advocates just did a poll. Is the same thing going on here? Are the only grants funded the ones showing global warming / climate change exists?

Here is what one person said who attended said conference:

When I arrived at the specified place and time, I found a magnificent hotel, surrounded by hundreds of soldiers and policemen. Everything was absolutely first class. To this day I don't think I've seen its equal in terms of high-end, well-run meetings.

The attendees, as you might suspect, were all well-dressed, and all appeared to be feeling special about attending such impressive, elite meetings. I, on the other hand, had a bit of a Groucho Marx moment: "I can't believe they let me into this place."

Once I started circulating, however, it became clear that "first class" extended no further than the physical layer. The presenters dressed well and tried to use impressive words; their PowerPoint slides were perfect, but the actual content was less than pedestrian.

I heard one speech – in the impressive 'headphone' amphitheater – where the speaker said that vast areas of her home country would be entirely underwater in ten years (which would have been 2009) and that every soul living there would be dead. As evidence, she referred to impressive names and organizations, who had "said so."

As best I could tell, nearly every person at this event was someone making a living from global warming, or else some official's son, daughter, brother-in-law, or cousin. I found none that had any notable substance. They were flying first class, staying at magnificent hotels, eating in the finest restaurants, and, as I later learned, hiring the best prostitutes and snorting the best drugs. And they were doing it all on some government's tab.

End of quote from article.

It is funny that I read Glen Greenwald and Matt Taibbi all the time. They are clearly Democrat leaning but at least they pursue the truth.

Thing with you leftist Dems is that not one of you questions anything. Real intelligence is refuting the author's case. What did he get wrong?

Instead you will find some obscure fact about the guy and say he is an idiot. That is the kind of person I call a Democratic douche. I wonder if you are a person who votes Democrat or is a Democratic douche.

PVMonger
06-07-21, 20:54
This recount will take years. If they find nothing they will not admit it and if they find something it will be litigated into oblivion because they are so lax in their security and incompetent in their procedures. Yes a certified auditor could have been used but how will the outcome be rigged if that were done? Now the machines have to be decertified because the proper procedures were not undertaken. But gullible Trump supporters have never been interested in facts or the logic they just want to be told what they want to hear.Every single supporter of the orange fruitcake is gullible. All trump supporters are Christian. Therefore, using the logic of trump supporters, all Christians are gullible.

Canada
06-07-21, 22:48
You are clearly not a Christian as you don't follow the teachings of Christ. Instead of spending your time here read the teachings of Christ. You will find them in the New testament. Not the Old testament, not Revelations. Christ came to earth to provide guidance about what God really wanted which was diametrically opposed to the Old Testament (aka Judaism). You are clearly rooted in the Old Testament.Typical democrat atheist explaining the teachings of Christ. You are a joke😂128514;128514;.

Canada
06-07-21, 22:51
Trump got caught telling 30,000 lies and that does not bother you at all.

Petraeus discussed classified information with his girlfriend. On April 23,2015, Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified materials. He was given a two-year probationary period and a fine of $100,000. The Ukraine story has been debunked so many times it is not funny. But you don't care that it is a lie you just want a moron like Trump to keep destroying the country with his lies.It looks you just surpassed Trumps 30,000 lies with your knee post. Pretty soon you will surpass all Trump and Biden lies in total.

GDreams
06-08-21, 01:42
Typical democrat atheist explaining the teachings of Christ. You are a joke..I was educated in a Christian school so I know what the teachings of Christ are. The fact that very few Christians actually follow these teachings and that the whole church system is about power and control not about following the teachings of Christ was a major influence in me becoming an atheist. All these rituals, all the rote prayers, they are all to keep people in the system. The fact you worship a guy is is a serial adulterer, a serial liar, a their who defrauded so many small time contractors, defrauded taxes, incompetently ran businesses, defrauded charities, never repents, never turns the other cheek, is abusive and generally a despicable human being is clear evidence that you have no respect for Christian values just like about 70% of the Christians I meet.

Golfinho
06-08-21, 13:35
Today is June 8, 2021, a day to observe two minutes of silence to honor the memory of the 36 US Navy sailors who were brutally killed by Israeli jet fighters and torpedo boats. On the same day, June 8, 1967,167 sailors were wounded and strafed with napalm.

Fifty-four (54) years later these brave soldiers have yet to be recognized for their valor. Since that shameful day, every US Administration, Secretary of Defense, Pentagon Brass, and a whole passel of corrupt politicians have refused to acknowledge this heinous act because Israel and her politicians are Washington's darlings. And for this brazenly murderous assault, billions upon billions have been showered on a nation that thrives on hatred, racism, apartheid, religious fanaticism, and war mongering.

Joe Biden and his ilk proclaim that they are fighting for the soul of America.

Joe Robinette Biden, if you have a soul, especially when you invoke the vacuous clich "May God Bless our troops," as you would have us believe, you could have and should have in your 40+ years of political pandering, acknowledged these brave service men and given them their due.

Forsaken by a government that has offered these sons, fathers, and grandfathers as sacrificial lambs on the altar of political pandering, expediency, and hypocrisy, please observe two minutes of silence.

PVMonger
06-08-21, 14:09
First off, this is not about Trump as Tucker Carlson said. That you Dems keep going back to that is sad.

What it is about is whether we as a people should blindly follow scientists. A favorite Democratic tactic is to say Republicans are not listening to scientists. I call the political actors we have like Fauci "scientists" because so much of what he was talking about was out of his ass. That you Dems just excuse his no mask, one mask, two masks routine is pathetic.

What has come about with the whole Fauci fiasco is that he controlled 99% of the grants the NIH doled out, $32 billion total. A Washington Post reporter said on Joe Rogan's show that a number of scientists were very skeptical of Fauci's claim of where the virus came from, but they were not willing to speak out for fear, and this reporter was very critical of Trump. He was clearly a Democratic leaning but critical of the new found Democratic plague of censorship.Here you go again with the BS.

"That you Dems just excuse his no mask, one mask, two masks routine is pathetic." Evidently you believe that the earth is flat and the earth is the center of the universe. I know this because you believe that once something is "known", it is impossible to change one's thinking.

What has come about with the whole Fauci fiasco is that he controlled 99% of the grants the NIH doled out, $32 billion total. Really? Care to provide a source on the 99% claim? Nope.

Unlike you Democratic brethren, I am able to be critical of Trump. What BS. Donnie knew that the virus was dangerous yet lied about it and downplayed it. He made wearing masks political. You have never criticized him for that.

Bringing *ucker Carlson into any argument negates the argument. His defense in his slander case was that anybody would be an idiot if they believed anything he said. So what does that make you?

Golfinho
06-08-21, 22:43
I was educated in a Christian school so I know what the teachings of Christ are. The fact that very few Christians actually follow these teachings. Christian values just like about 70% of the Christians I meet.Many different types of Christian schools. Was rattlesnake wrangling and strychnine imbibing a part of the curriculum at yours?

70% of those you meet not living up to the ideal? You really ought to consider improving your social circle. Or consider that we're all a work-in-progress.

GDreams
06-09-21, 02:51
Many different types of Christian schools. Was rattlesnake wrangling and strychnine imbibing a part of the curriculum at yours?

70% of those you meet not living up to the ideal? You really ought to consider improving your social circle. Or consider that we're all a work-in-progress.I actually find true Christians to be very nice people, after all the whole philosophy about Christianity is being nice to others no matter what. Unfortunately most of the Christians I meet live firmly in the OLD Testament as that is where human nature more naturally resides but is diametrically opposed to the teachings of Christ. The people who crafted the bible did a big disservice including the OLD Testament stuff but they probably realized that much of what they do as rulers contradicts the teachings of Christ so they needed some out. The thing I find most funny is the two most important celebrations in the Christian calendar are the Winter Solstice and the Spring celebrations (just love those Easter bunnies and Easter eggs representing pagan fertility). I just shake my head when people talk about being God fearing when he. She (it) is meant to be the god of love. Jesus says we have a direct line to god, so why listen to all these purveyors of nonsense. You know in your own heart whether what you do is good or bad? Is that not god talking back to you?

EihTooms
06-09-21, 06:53
...but Joe Biden is not one of them.


Today is June 8, 2021, a day to observe two minutes of silence to honor the memory of the 36 US Navy sailors who were brutally killed by Israeli jet fighters and torpedo boats. On the same day, June 8, 1967,167 sailors were wounded and strafed with napalm.

Fifty-four (54) years later these brave soldiers have yet to be recognized for their valor. Since that shameful day, every US Administration, Secretary of Defense, Pentagon Brass, and a whole passel of corrupt politicians have refused to acknowledge this heinous act because Israel and her politicians are Washington's darlings. And for this brazenly murderous assault, billions upon billions have been showered on a nation that thrives on hatred, racism, apartheid, religious fanaticism, and war mongering.

Joe Biden and his ilk proclaim that they are fighting for the soul of America.

Joe Robinette Biden, if you have a soul, especially when you invoke the vacuous clich "May God Bless our troops," as you would have us believe, you could have and should have in your 40+ years of political pandering, acknowledged these brave service men and given them their due.

Forsaken by a government that has offered these sons, fathers, and grandfathers as sacrificial lambs on the altar of political pandering, expediency, and hypocrisy, please observe two minutes of silence.USS Liberty incident
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Result
Official apology issued by Israeli government; financial restitution made to victims, victims families, and the U.S. government; See Aftermath of the attack.

Elvis 2008
06-09-21, 18:38
I know this because you believe that once something is "known", it is impossible to change one's thinking.Hmm, let me see an example of this with you PVM.


Distancing works and so does hand washing.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/14/qa-does-handwashing-stem-the-transmission-of-covid-19

Surface transmission may happen, but speaking and coughing seem to play a much larger role. It now says surface transmission is "not thought to be a common way that Covid-19 spreads".

Do you think the world was flat?


What has come about with the whole Fauci fiasco is that he controlled 99% of the grants the NIH doled out, $32 billion total. Really? Care to provide a source on the 99% claim? Nope.Go to 6:00 on this video and watch for 45 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhKlkkc2Eo.

Care to say where you came with the bullshit notion Fauci does not control 99% of the NIH grant money douche?


Bringing Tucker Carlson into any argument negates the argument. His defense in his slander case was that anybody would be an idiot if they believed anything he said. So what does that make you?https://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/Ad-Hominem.html

Ad Hominem:

This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument. The fallacious attack can also be direct to membership in a group or institution.

Student: Hey, Professor Moore, we shouldn't have to read this book by Freud. Everyone knows he used cocaine.

So that makes me rational and you an illogical Democratic.

PVMonger
06-09-21, 19:36
I actually find true Christians to be very nice people, after all the whole philosophy about Christianity is being nice to others no matter what. Unfortunately most of the Christians I meet live firmly in the OLD Testament as that is where human nature more naturally resides but is diametrically opposed to the teachings of Christ. The people who crafted the bible did a big disservice including the OLD Testament stuff but they probably realized that much of what they do as rulers contradicts the teachings of Christ so they needed some out. The thing I find most funny is the two most important celebrations in the Christian calendar are the Winter Solstice and the Spring celebrations (just love those Easter bunnies and Easter eggs representing pagan fertility). I just shake my head when people talk about being God fearing when he. She (it) is meant to be the god of love. Jesus says we have a direct line to god, so why listen to all these purveyors of nonsense. You know in your own heart whether what you do is good or bad? Is that not god talking back to you?True enough.

It is mind boggling, though, how "Christians" believe that a serial liar, a guy who has cheated on all 3 of his wives and has had 5 kids with 3 different woman somehow represents THEM. Or was sent to them by God. WTAF?

Those same people believe that nobody can make them wear a mask yet would be first in line to beat someone to a pulp for ignoring a "No shirt. No shoes. No service. " sign at their local watering hole. Do they even know the meaning of hypocrisy?

Or, even worse, use the "my body, my choice" argument for not wearing a mask but reject that same argument when a woman uses it as an abortion argument. Pro-life, my patootie. Pro-birth only.

Stykler
06-09-21, 23:35
I was educated in a Christian school so I know what the teachings of Christ are. The fact that very few Christians actually follow these teachings and that the whole church system is about power and control not about following the teachings of Christ was a major influence in me becoming an atheist. All these rituals, all the rote prayers, they are all to keep people in the system. The fact you worship a guy is is a serial adulterer, a serial liar, a their who defrauded so many small time contractors, defrauded taxes, incompetently ran businesses, defrauded charities, never repents, never turns the other cheek, is abusive and generally a despicable human being is clear evidence that you have no respect for Christian values just like about 70% of the Christians I meet.Sums up putrid religion perfectly. Well done.

Golfinho
06-10-21, 01:39
...but Joe Biden is not one of them.Yes, indeed, some people don't have to pay reparations and compensations for three-quarters of a century (and counting) when a simple little apology will do.

PVMonger
06-10-21, 04:13
Hmm, let me see an example of this with you PVM.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/14/qa-does-handwashing-stem-the-transmission-of-covid-19

Surface transmission may happen, but speaking and coughing seem to play a much larger role. It now says surface transmission is "not thought to be a common way that Covid-19 spreads".

Do you think the world was flat?

Go to 6:00 on this video and watch for 45 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhKlkkc2Eo.

Care to say where you came with the bullshit notion Fauci does not control 99% of the NIH grant money douche?

https://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/Ad-Hominem.html

Ad Hominem:.Once again, you shift arguments.

Yes, coughing is certainly a better transmitter of COVID than touch. But that's what we know now. The anti-maskers point to Fauci's differing mask positions and say (like you do) that he changed his mind. So the article you thoughtfully provided backs up that position 100%. You can't have things both ways. But, like a typical Repiblikkkan, that's what you want.

A Youtube video? Really?

You can BS all you want about ad hominum arguments but using someone as "proof" whose own lawyers said "nothing this guy says is believable" is, frankly, ludicrous.

Xpartan
06-10-21, 04:22
...but Joe Biden is not one of them.

USS Liberty incident
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incidentRight-wing anti-Semites.

Left-wing anti-Semites.

Anti-Semites is a keyword here. Nothing else matters.

Golfinho
06-10-21, 14:36
I actually find true Christians to be very nice people, after all the whole philosophy about Christianity is being nice to others no matter what. Unfortunately most of the Christians I meet live firmly in the OLD Testament as that is where human nature more naturally resides but is diametrically opposed to the teachings of Christ. The people who crafted the bible did a big disservice including the OLD Testament stuff but they probably realized that much of what they do as rulers contradicts the teachings of Christ so they needed some out. The thing I find most funny is the two most important celebrations in the Christian calendar are the Winter Solstice and the Spring celebrations (just love those Easter bunnies and Easter eggs representing pagan fertility). I just shake my head when people talk about being God fearing when he. She (it) is meant to be the god of love. Jesus says we have a direct line to god, so why listen to all these purveyors of nonsense. You know in your own heart whether what you do is good or bad? Is that not god talking back to you?You've identified a huge and vital distinction: True Christians and then these fundamentalist Christian zionists.

Elvis 2008
06-11-21, 05:10
Once again, you shift arguments.Not switching at all. Issue is whether you adjust, and you do not. You said hand washing works for Covid and it does not.


The anti-maskers point to Fauci's differing mask positions and say (like you do) that he changed his mind. So the article you thoughtfully provided backs up that position 100%. You can't have things both ways. But, like a typical Repiblikkkan, that's what you want.I did not say masks did not work. Fauci did. Then he said he lied. Being a Democratic douche, you let the lie pass. Then he says masks work. Okay fine. Then he ridiculously says wear two masks.

As a public health official, he needs credibility. I wanted people to wear masks. I wanted Fauci to say exactly what you did, that he changed his mind based on better data. He did not. He said he lied. He thought saying he lied was more credible than saying he did not know.

You douches elevated a liar to saint status just to put down Trump.


A Youtube video? Really?This is THE definition of a Democratic douche. Ignoring the data. "I am a scientist. I believe in the data. " I ask, "Well, what about this data?" If it is on you tube, it does not count. Science is dealing with data. You Democratic douches are not scientists. You only look at data that supports your POV and ignore the rest.


You can BS all you want about ad hominum arguments but using someone as "proof" whose own lawyers said "nothing this guy says is believable" is, frankly, ludicrous.This is the more of the same. You cannot ignore data and POVs and your call yourself rational and scientific. You have shown yourself now to be illogical, unscientific, and a name caller.

Golfinho
06-11-21, 20:25
Anti-Semites is a keyword here. Nothing else matters.You've just defined 'anti-semitism': it's anything that a semite doesn't like. Nothing else matters.

If any other country had attacked an American ship as the Liberty was attacked, what do you suppose would have been the US response?

https://www.counterpunch.org/2003/10/24/israel-s-attack-on-the-liberty-revisited/

PVMonger
06-11-21, 21:11
Not switching at all. Issue is whether you adjust, and you do not. You said hand washing works for Covid and it does not.

I did not say masks did not work. Fauci did. Then he said he lied. Being a Democratic douche, you let the lie pass. Then he says masks work. Okay fine. Then he ridiculously says wear two masks.

As a public health official, he needs credibility. I wanted people to wear masks. I wanted Fauci to say exactly what you did, that he changed his mind based on better data. He did not. He said he lied. He thought saying he lied was more credible than saying he did not know.

You douches elevated a liar to saint status just to put down Trump.

This is THE definition of a Democratic douche. Ignoring the data. "I am a scientist. I believe in the data. " I ask, "Well, what about this data?" If it is on you tube, it does not count. Science is dealing with data. You Democratic douches are not scientists. You only look at data that supports your POV and ignore the rest.

This is the more of the same. You cannot ignore data and POVs and your call yourself rational and scientific. You have shown yourself now to be illogical, unscientific, and a name caller.Dr. Fauci said many TIMES that his advice on masks changed based on new information. Following are just three of the hundreds of articles about it:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/06/03/fact-check-missing-context-claim-mask-emails-fauci/7531267002/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/10/20/is-trump-right-that-fauci-discouraged-wearing-masks/?sh=792429f74969

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/01/world/fauci-pushes-back-against-trump-for-misrepresenting-his-stance-on-masks.html

The only people who refuse to believe what he said are Republikkkans. What's worse, though, is you accuse him of lying because he changed his mind based on new info. You don't get to do that.

And I don't rely on Youtube videos because there is not text associated with it. But if you can find any substantive written proof of your BS 99% assertion, have at it.

And anyone who uses anything that *ucker Carlson says as "proof" of anything is just as intelligent as *ucker's lawyers said they were.

Golfinho
06-11-21, 21:57
Anti-Semites is a keyword here. Nothing else matters.You've just defined 'anti-Semitism': it's anything that a semite doesn't like. Nothing else matters.

If any other country had attacked an American ship as the Liberty was attacked, what do you suppose would have been the US response?

https://www.counterpunch.org/2003/10/24/israel-s-attack-on-the-liberty-revisited/

Paulie97
06-11-21, 23:55
And anyone who uses anything that *ucker Carlson says as "proof" of anything is just as intelligent as *ucker's lawyers said they were.Touche. And Tucker himself knows that he is full of shit. He is just pulling the heart strings of dumb people for ratings and his personal enrichment. Not to mention that the whole world has been wearing masks. Fauci is hardly alone in his professional assessments. Reminds me of all the fools that were going around claiming that Covid was a hoax and conspiracy to thwart Trump's re-election. The fact that people were suffering and dying all over the globe never crossed their minds. They simply didn't have enough mental faculties to think to the next logical step.

Chris P
06-12-21, 01:35
Or, even worse, use the "my body, my choice" argument for not wearing a mask but reject that same argument when a woman uses it as an abortion argument.Trying to equate a useless piece of cloth that Fauci knew all along made no difference to the transmission of a virus with a 99.9% survival rate, to the killing of a human life. Damn, leftards are both stupid and disgusting.

Equally stupid is using "my body my choice" to allow women to abort their babies, but simultaneously be in favour of forcing people to take an untested DNA-altering "vaccine" on pain of being prevented from functioning in society. The cognitive dissonance of the left is so insane that if they were intelligent enough to realize it they would all have aneurysms on the spot.

Chris P
06-12-21, 01:39
Yes, some of us are indeed 54 years behind on the news...
...but Joe Biden is not one of them.Actually, Joe does seem to think it's 1967 most of the time. "Huh? Where am I? Get your record player. You know. The thing!

Chris P
06-12-21, 01:42
You've just defined 'anti-Semitism': it's anything that a semite doesn't like. Nothing else matters.

If any other country had attacked an American ship as the Liberty was attacked, what do you suppose would have been the US response?

https://www.counterpunch.org/2003/10/24/israel-s-attack-on-the-liberty-revisited/Excellent point. Apparently Israel "made an apology", and the US said "sure, no problem", and kept sending them billions of taxpayer dollars and cutting edge weapons every year.

I wonder if they would have had the same reaction to any other country that destroyed a US warship in a sustained attack? And I wonder if the media would completely refuse to publicize it? And if not, why not?

Chris P
06-12-21, 01:45
You can BS all you want about ad hominum argumentsAd hominem arguments are not "BS"; they are a well-known tactic used by people who cannot adequately respond to the points that someone raises, so instead try and attack the person who raises them. As you are trying and failing to do with Tucker Carlson, the #1 cable news show host in the history of the medium.

Chris P
06-12-21, 02:01
Dr. Fauci said many TIMES that his advice on masks changed based on new information.No, the timelines of the emails show that what he was saying privately and publicly at the same time were entirely different.

But much more important than the mask lies is his funding of exactly the gain of function research that created the virus, and his attempts to cover it up. The frantic emails to his co-conspirators to try to throw off the scent; and his claims that he was certain it was naturally occurring, when his emails showed he had already been told by multiple scientists that it was almost certainly artificially created in a lab.

If Roger Stone can be convicted for forgetting some dates, Fauci needs to rot in supermax for the rest of his life for the illegal gain of function supervirus research he funded and the wilful disinformation and cover-up he undertook toward the American people, which cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars.

Xpartan
06-12-21, 03:40
You've just defined 'anti-Semitism': it's anything that a semite doesn't like. Nothing else matters.

If any other country had attacked an American ship as the Liberty was attacked, what do you suppose would have been the US response?

https://www.counterpunch.org/2003/10/24/israel-s-attack-on-the-liberty-revisited/What anti-Semites don't get is that we've heard all these old lies before. It's not like you're bringing anything new to the table. The truth is, you're a very trivial anti-Semite. A dime a dozen.

Chris P
06-12-21, 04:04
What anti-Semites don't get is that we've heard all these old lies before. It's not like you're bringing anything new to the table. The truth is, you're a very trivial anti-Semite. A dime a dozen.Yet again an ad hominem attack and evasion of the question.

If any other country had launched a sustained air assault upon a US warship leaving many dead, would America have simply accepted an "apology" and gone on to send them billions of taxpayer dollars and cutting edge military technology? Would the US media have completely blocked all coverage of the event? Yes or no answer will do to start, then if you really want to get a nosebleed you could try and answer the question "why?

Chris P
06-12-21, 04:17
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/utah-state-rep-steve-christiansen-az-audit-tour-golden-incredible-amazing-experience/

The painstaking and forensic hand recount of the votes in Maricopa County, Arizona is nearing completion. We will soon find out who really won the state. Even better, representatives from Georgia and Michigan, where the GOP controls the state legislatures, were on hand to watch and learn, before activating similar recounts to uncover the fraud that went on in their states. Nevada, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania to follow.

Huge congratulations to the patriots standing strong for truth and freedom. America still has men and women who are not cowed by the globalist deep state and are prepared to stand up for our country before the democrats and their antifa / BLM footsoldiers and open borders destroy it forever.

To return the topic to our hobby, in the world the globalist dems have in mind, we can kiss it goodbye. First off, they want to make it near impossible for anyone but the super-rich elite to travel internationally. Second, they want to reduce the living standards of Americans to those of the Third World (that is "equity" Third, they want to potentially criminalize any man who has sex with a woman, particularly P4P.

Believe you me, Kamala Harris and the rest of Biden's handlers hate with a burning passion every man on this site. If they get what they want, say goodbye to mongering. We won't be able to travel; we won't have any money to travel or pay the chicks; and we will end up in jail if we somehow do.

EihTooms
06-12-21, 04:27
No, the timelines of the emails show that what he was saying privately and publicly at the same time were entirely different.

But much more important than the mask lies is his funding of exactly the gain of function research that created the virus, and his attempts to cover it up. The frantic emails to his co-conspirators to try to throw off the scent; and his claims that he was certain it was naturally occurring, when his emails showed he had already been told by multiple scientists that it was almost certainly artificially created in a lab.

If Roger Stone can be convicted for forgetting some dates, Fauci needs to rot in supermax for the rest of his life for the illegal gain of function supervirus research he funded and the wilful disinformation and cover-up he undertook toward the American people, which cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars.When FUX News Channel can't even find enough vaguely damning evidence in those emails to spin a phony outrage out of nothing, you know with absolute certainty there is nothing there.

https://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-chris-wallace-defends-fauci-rips-highly-political-gop-attacks-over-covid-emails-1597892

Were you on the CC/BCC list for Fauci's emails and reading stuff nobody at FUX News Channel has seen?

Paulie97
06-12-21, 07:09
What an absolute moron, and the last person that should be doling out medical advice.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/republican-u-s-sen-ron-johnson-suspended-for-a-week-from-youtube-for-covid-misinformation/ar-AAKXlIX?ocid=msedgntp

PVMonger
06-12-21, 12:51
Trying to equate a useless piece of cloth that Fauci knew all along made no difference to the transmission of a virus with a 99.9% survival rate, to the killing of a human life. Damn, leftards are both stupid and disgusting.

Equally stupid is using "my body my choice" to allow women to abort their babies, but simultaneously be in favour of forcing people to take an untested DNA-altering "vaccine" on pain of being prevented from functioning in society. The cognitive dissonance of the left is so insane that if they were intelligent enough to realize it they would all have aneurysms on the spot.The COVID vaccine alters people's DNA? Really? Who said that, *ucker? https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2021/01/11/covid-19-vaccines-cant-alter-your-dna-heres-why/?sh=343786582491.

I suppose you believe it magnetizes you, too. SMH https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19/can-vaccines-make-our-body-magnetic.

PVMonger
06-12-21, 12:59
Ad hominem arguments are not "BS"; they are a well-known tactic used by people who cannot adequately respond to the points that someone raises, so instead try and attack the person who raises them. As you are trying and failing to do with Tucker Carlson, the #1 cable news show host in the history of the medium.The fact that lots of people watch, and believe, Carlson is not the same as using what Carlson says as "proof" of anything. "The lies that Tucker Carlson asserts on his Fox News show are not slanderous because any "reasonable" person would know that he lies." https://www.courierherald.com/opinion/the-tucker-carlson-defense/.

What you assert is that Ford makes better vehicles than Mercedes because Ford sells more cars.

Why are kkkonservatives so ignorant?

Golfinho
06-12-21, 13:57
What anti-Semites don't get is that we've heard all these old lies before. It's not like you're bringing anything new to the table.What self-identifying ashkanazim and assorted noahides don't get is that they're incapable of seeing the consequences of their supremacist behavior. We've heard all their old lies repeated ad nauseum until now with nothing new to say all they can do is bleat anti-semitism at any trivial thing that they don't like.

Chris P
06-12-21, 16:23
Ron JohnsonHCQ has been shown in recent studies to be effective. And who the hell knows what the latest "official" li (n) e is. They change it all the time: first they said it couldn't be transferred human to human; then they said fatality rates could be as high as 5% (actually it's 0. 1% then they said masks were ineffective, then they said they were effective, now we're finding out they were always ineffective; and of course they claimed that it was naturally occurring and pure coincidence that it originated next door to the Wuhan Virology Institute (LOL) which we are now finding was yet another official falsehood. Basically the WHO is the mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party.

But the real story here is that a United States Senator has been censored. The idea that any American should have their First Amendment rights violated for questioning the "official narrative" of anything is disgraceful, but the fact Big Tech / Deep State feels free to do so to elected representatives is an abomination which cannot go unaddressed if this country is to remain free.

Chris P
06-12-21, 16:28
When FUX News Channel can't even find enough vaguely damning evidence in those emails to spin a phony outrage out of nothing, you know with absolute certainty there is nothing there.
Chris Wallace is part of the fake news establishment who happens to have a weekend show at Fox. Not quite sure why he is there; he would be more at home at CNN, with an audience consisting of people watching at airports with the sound turned down. The proper Fox hosts, whom people actually watch voluntarily, have gone into detail with regard to Fauci's falsehoods, as has Senator Rand Paul.

The fact that the fake news have refused to publicise Fauci's lies and criminality doesn't mean it didn't happen. Quite the contrary, as with Hunter's laptop, and indeed the Israeli destruction of the USS Liberty.

Chris P
06-12-21, 16:58
The fact that lots of people watch, and believe, Carlson blablablaMore ad hominem rubbish, and no answers to the points raised about Fauci's falsehoods, involvement in funding the development of the virus, and trying to cover his ass afterward.

Chris P
06-12-21, 17:01
President Trump just posted it perfectly, as usual:

"Have you noticed that they are now admitting I was right about everything they lied about before the election?

Hydroxychloroquine works.

The Virus came from a Chinese lab.

Hunter Biden's laptop was real.

Lafayette Square was not cleared for a photo op.

The "Russian Bounties" story was fake.

We did produce vaccines before the end of 2020, in record time.

Blue state lockdowns didn't work.

Schools should be opened.

Critical Race Theory is a disaster for our schools and our Country.

Our Southern Border security program was unprecedentedly successful".

Trump 10 - Fake News Deep State Dems 0.

Elvis 2008
06-12-21, 17:17
No, the timelines of the emails show that what he was saying privately and publicly at the same time were entirely different.

But much more important than the mask lies is his funding of exactly the gain of function research that created the virus, and his attempts to cover it up. The frantic emails to his co-conspirators to try to throw off the scent; and his claims that he was certain it was naturally occurring, when his emails showed he had already been told by multiple scientists that it was almost certainly artificially created in a lab.

If Roger Stone can be convicted for forgetting some dates, Fauci needs to rot in supermax for the rest of his life for the illegal gain of function supervirus research he funded and the wilful disinformation and cover-up he undertook toward the American people, which cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars.Great post, Chris P. I agree 100%. You would think that the liberals and leftists, who are supposed to value human life so much more than conservatives, would be furious with Fauci.

But no matter what Fauci says or does, the Dems publicly support him. In private though, I think they are going to oust him and give him a hero's send off when he should be in jail.

Mursenary
06-12-21, 20:31
As I migrate away from what conservatism in America is becoming and reluctantly embracing some of Democrat policies (overemphasis on social messaging keeps that at bay), I'm glad to see some of the Biden stance on international relations.

Biden presses G-7 to take firmer stance against China - https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/558123-biden-to-press-g7-to-call-out-chinas-forced-labor-practices.

What I like about this message is the idea of "outcompeting" China despite their scrupulous business practices. The previous administration's strategy of painting China as the "enemy" always sounded like the sour grapes of a kid complaining about the other team cheating. It created an air of warmongering that was off-putting to me. While I have little regard for China's domestic policies and even their culture, I do respect the efficacy of their One Belt One Road strategy of investing in poor nations in order to expand their sphere of influence. In response, I believe that outcompeting them is the strategy of champions, rather than the venomous-borderline warmongering strategy. But we can't do it by ourselves. China's neighbors already dislike them. If the Europeans stay firmly on board, sacrificing some short term benefits of dealing with China, the CCP will be limited in how fast they can grow.

Just my two cents of how to approach the troubling problem of containing China's reach into what has traditionally been our strongholds.

PVMonger
06-12-21, 21:43
HCQ has been shown in recent studies to be effective. And who the hell knows what the latest "official" li (n) e is. They change it all the time: first they said it couldn't be transferred human to human; then they said fatality rates could be as high as 5% (actually it's 0. 1% then they said masks were ineffective, then they said they were effective, now we're finding out they were always ineffective; and of course they claimed that it was naturally occurring and pure coincidence that it originated next door to the Wuhan Virology Institute (LOL) which we are now finding was yet another official falsehood. Basically the WHO is the mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party.

But the real story here is that a United States Senator has been censored. The idea that any American should have their First Amendment rights violated for questioning the "official narrative" of anything is disgraceful, but the fact Big Tech / Deep State feels free to do so to elected representatives is an abomination which cannot go unaddressed if this country is to remain free.Yes, Liz Cheney was censored. By Republikkkans.

Canada
06-12-21, 22:47
President Trump just posted it perfectly, as usual:

"Have you noticed that they are now admitting I was right about everything they lied about before the election?

Hydroxychloroquine works.

The Virus came from a Chinese lab.

Hunter Biden's laptop was real.

Lafayette Square was not cleared for a photo op.

The "Russian Bounties" story was fake.

We did produce vaccines before the end of 2020, in record time.

Blue state lockdowns didn't work.

Schools should be opened.

Critical Race Theory is a disaster for our schools and our Country.

Our Southern Border security program was unprecedentedly successful".

Trump 10 - Fake News Deep State Dems 0.Great post and I don't think anyone can argue against it. They can just ignore it like the fake news does. Amazing that these issues were called Trump lies and now there are proven true to the dismay of the socialists.

Chris P
06-13-21, 02:52
Yes, Liz Cheney was censored. By Republikkkans.If you cannot understand the difference between being removed from a position in a political party by elected representatives of that party, and being censored by social media companies used by the majority of Americans which have benefited from Section 230 privileges specifically designating them a platform not a publisher to become the modern-day public square, then you are an even bigger cretin than I thought.

PVMonger
06-13-21, 03:35
HCQ has been shown in recent studies to be effective. And who the hell knows what the latest "official" li (n) e is. They change it all the time: first they said it couldn't be transferred human to human; then they said fatality rates could be as high as 5% (actually it's 0. 1% then they said masks were ineffective, then they said they were effective, now we're finding out they were always ineffective; and of course they claimed that it was naturally occurring and pure coincidence that it originated next door to the Wuhan Virology Institute (LOL) which we are now finding was yet another official falsehood. Basically the WHO is the mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party.

But the real story here is that a United States Senator has been censored. The idea that any American should have their First Amendment rights violated for questioning the "official narrative" of anything is disgraceful, but the fact Big Tech / Deep State feels free to do so to elected representatives is an abomination which cannot go unaddressed if this country is to remain free.No wonder "trickle down economics" don't work. Republikkkans can't do math. 3.8 million deaths out of 176.4 million cases is a fatality rate (worldwide) of 2. 15%. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?.

Just because Republikkkans are too ignorant to wear a mask doesn't mean that everyone is. https://news.yahoo.com/cloth-mask-is-a-powerful-weapon-against-coronavirus-224321477.html.

Beno69
06-13-21, 07:01
The fact that the fake news have refused to publicise Fauci's lies and criminality doesn't mean it didn't happen..Mr. Q and what's about the 600 000 dead from a non existing Virus?

Xpartan
06-13-21, 07:21
Yet again an ad hominem attack and evasion of the question.

If any other country had launched a sustained air assault upon a US warship leaving many dead, would America have simply accepted an "apology" and gone on to send them billions of taxpayer dollars and cutting edge military technology? Would the US media have completely blocked all coverage of the event? Yes or no answer will do to start, then if you really want to get a nosebleed you could try and answer the question "why?The problem with your assessment is this.

You and Golfinho are liars.

Liberty was a tragic mistake. Nothing more, nothing less.

Every sane person knows it was a mistake. After a detailed and thorough investigation by the USA And Israeli governments it was established beyond any doubt, even unreasonable, that USS Libery was mistaken for an Egyptian ship.

Only a complete moron and / or rabid anti-Semite can spread the idiotic idea that Israel (during the war, mind you) would've knowingly attacked a ship of their only true ally in the whole wide world. And then, mind you, pay multimillion dollar compensation and damages. Yeah, totally plausible, why the fuck not.

This is on the same level as denying Holocaust. You must be genuinely sick to believe such nonsense or really, really sick spreading the lies while not believing in it.

But it's up to you. If you admit that you and Golfinho are complete and utter morons, well, OK then. I might believe you aren't liars, just morons.

However, if you deny that you and Golfinho are complete and utter morons, then the conclusion is inevitable. You are liars and rabid anti-Semites. This is a fact. And stating a fact is not an ad hominem attack, it's just stating a fact.

If you don't want to be called a liar, don't lie. If you don't want to be called an anti-Semite don't spread anti-Semitic bullshit.

Easy-peasy, really.

PVMonger
06-13-21, 13:44
The problem with your assessment is this.

You and Golfinho are liars.

Liberty was a tragic mistake. Nothing more, nothing less.

Every sane person knows it was a mistake. After a detailed and thorough investigation by the USA And Israeli governments it was established beyond any doubt, even unreasonable, that USS Libery was mistaken for an Egyptian ship.

Only a complete moron and / or rabid anti-Semite can spread the idiotic idea that Israel (during the war, mind you) would've knowingly attacked a ship of their only true ally in the whole wide world. And then, mind you, pay multimillion dollar compensation and damages. Yeah, totally plausible, why the fuck not.

This is on the same level as denying Holocaust. You must be genuinely sick to believe such nonsense or really, really sick spreading the lies while not believing in it.

But it's up to you. If you admit that you and Golfinho are complete and utter morons, well, OK then. I might believe you aren't liars, just morons..Unfortunately, "every sane person" leaves out the majority of trump supporters.

Any person who believes that the COVID vaccine changes your DNA or that the orange fruitcake won the election or that COVID has a 0.1% fatality rate, etc, is, by definition, insane. They live in their own little fantasy world where up is down, morning is night, trump never told a lie, tucker Carlson tells the truth and proof is what they say it is.

Golfinho
06-13-21, 19:06
Unfortunately, "every sane person" leaves out the majority of trump supporters. Any person who believes that the COVID vaccine changes your DNA or that the orange fruitcake won the election or that COVID has a 0.1% fatality rate, etc, is, by definition, insane. They live in their own little fantasy world.You're living in your own little fantasy world if you equate an understanding of the attack on the Liberty with supporting Trump or opposing covid vaccinations. A reflection of your mentality as absurd as equating objections to Isreali double-standards and crimes with anti-semitism.

PVMonger
06-13-21, 20:33
President Trump just posted it perfectly, as usual:

"Have you noticed that they are now admitting I was right about everything they lied about before the election?

Hydroxychloroquine works.

The Virus came from a Chinese lab.

Hunter Biden's laptop was real.

Lafayette Square was not cleared for a photo op.Hydroxychloroquine works. This is, of course, complete bullshit. See https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2016638 and https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20) 30389-8/ fulltext.

The Virus came from a Chinese lab. This is far from a proven fact. Plus, trump claimed the release was dejliberate. https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2020/06/18/trump-suggests-china-may-have-intentionally-allowed-coronavirus-to-spread/?sh=8b733f233f1c.

Hunter Biden's laptop was real. And even Fux News couldn't make much out of it.

Lafayette Square was not cleared for a photo op. And this comes out after HOW MANY months? If this was REALLY true, the relevant parties would have shown proof immediately. I wonder who got paid off?

The "Russian Bounties" story was fake. Bad intel. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/us/politics/russian-bounties-afghanistan-intelligence.html.

We did produce vaccines before the end of 2020, in record time. And how many idiot republikkkans won't get vaccinated because the vaccine alters your DNA, contains microchips, magnetizes you, etc? Dumb, dumber, dumbest https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/03/10386020/republican-men-against-covid-vaccine-anti-vaxxers.

Blue state lockdowns didn't work. BS. https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-03-10/2021-california-covid-economic-recovery-outpaces-us And besides, it is the CONSUMERS who control the reopening anyway https://www.idahostatejournal.com/coronavirus/i-will-not-die-of-stupid/article_d1a0aac9-f8be-5e93-9bcf-a2ad0ef34ea0.html.

Schools should be opened. Sure. But not the expense of children or teachers.

Critical Race Theory is a disaster for our schools and our Country. Critical Race Theory is a disaster for racists, white supremacists and republikkkans. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/05/gops-critical-race-theory-fixation-explained/618828/.

Our Southern Border security program was unprecedentedly successful". So was trump's.

Trump 10 - Fake News Deep State Dems 0. Trump got kicked to the curb. Unfortunately, republicans still exist. But everybody knows they are liars anyway.

EihTooms
06-13-21, 23:51
As I migrate away from what conservatism in America is becoming and reluctantly embracing some of Democrat policies (overemphasis on social messaging keeps that at bay), I'm glad to see some of the Biden stance on international relations.

Biden presses G-7 to take firmer stance against China - https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/558123-biden-to-press-g7-to-call-out-chinas-forced-labor-practices.

What I like about this message is the idea of "outcompeting" China despite their scrupulous business practices. The previous administration's strategy of painting China as the "enemy" always sounded like the sour grapes of a kid complaining about the other team cheating. It created an air of warmongering that was off-putting to me. While I have little regard for China's domestic policies and even their culture, I do respect the efficacy of their One Belt One Road strategy of investing in poor nations in order to expand their sphere of influence. In response, I believe that outcompeting them is the strategy of champions, rather than the venomous-borderline warmongering strategy. But we can't do it by ourselves. China's neighbors already dislike them. If the Europeans stay firmly on board, sacrificing some short term benefits of dealing with China, the CCP will be limited in how fast they can grow.

Just my two cents of how to approach the troubling problem of containing China's reach into what has traditionally been our strongholds.I agree. And I submit Biden has a better plan in every way than the former guy.

Not that Trump had a plan at all with regard to China other than to frame them as the "Yellow Menace" out of one side of his mouth to thrill his lamebrain base while lying in perfect sync with Xi out of the other side of his mouth about the known (to him) threat and risk of the spread of the coronavirus to the point of triggering a Pandemic that could have been avoided if an honorable POTUS with real concern about American lives and the economy had been in that position at the time. His only focused goal with China appears to have been to beg them to "Make sure I win." lol. He lost that negotiation, too.

History will forever show that Trump was the wrong person in the wrong job at the wrong time and, not surprisingly, tragically wrong about everything important. As was easily predictable by anyone paying attention.

EihTooms
06-14-21, 00:16
No wonder "trickle down economics" don't work. Republikkkans can't do math. 3.8 million deaths out of 176.4 million cases is a fatality rate (worldwide) of 2. 15%. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?.

Just because Republikkkans are too ignorant to wear a mask doesn't mean that everyone is. https://news.yahoo.com/cloth-mask-is-a-powerful-weapon-against-coronavirus-224321477.html.Lol. Of course, that assumes Repubs have ever proposed and passed their only solution to every economic challenge, "Supply-Side/Trickle-Down" tax and economic policy, in order to create jobs and expand the USA economy and have only failed miserably every single time to achieve that goal with it and instead produced Great Repub Crash and Recession after Great Repub Crash and Recession with it due to a dumb miscalculation.

I don't think it is possible to assume such a thing anymore. No, the disastrous, massive U.S. job-killing result of their one and only economic solution to everything has been too consistent for almost a century to be anything but intentional. As stupid as we might think Repubs are about it, nobody could be that stupid that consistently and that often due to a mere lack of basic math skills.

Chris P
06-14-21, 01:28
No wonder "trickle down economics" don't work. Republikkkans can't do math. 3.8 million deaths out of 176.4 million cases is a fatality rate (worldwide) of 2. 15%. The 3.8 million figure is grossly inflated, as it includes everyone who died with covid rather than of it. Incentives were given to doctors and hospitals to get the number up by testing people dying or dead of something else. Many dying people caught it in hospital where they were about to die anyway. We all remember the notorious case of the guy killed in an auto accident who was counted as a covid death. And the average age of covid death is mid-80's, so half of them were late 80's and 90's, and were on the way out regardless.

At the same time, the 176 m figure is a tiny fraction of the real number. Most people who had it didn't even know that they did, and it went unreported. It is a highly contagious disease; once it gets out in a population there's little way to stop it, as the data has shown: countries and states with no lockdown had the same results as those with draconian lockdown. But for the vast majority, they either don't notice it or they have a couple of days of flu-like symptoms and get better. No trip to the hospital, no test, no report, they just continue with life (as we all should have).

Chris P
06-14-21, 01:33
The problem with your assessment is blablablaThe problem with your post is you didn't answer the questions. Try again:

If any other country had launched a sustained air assault upon a US warship leaving many dead, would America have simply accepted an "apology" and gone on to send them billions of taxpayer dollars and cutting edge military technology? Would the US media have completely blocked all coverage of the event? Yes or no answer will do to start, then if you really want to get a nosebleed you could try and answer the question "why?

Chris P
06-14-21, 01:35
Lol. Of course, that assumes Repubs have ever proposed and passed their only solution to every economic challenge, "Supply-Side/Trickle-Down" tax and economic policy, in order to create jobs and expand the USA economy and have only failed miserably every single time to achieve that goal with it and instead produced Great Repub Crash and Recession after Great Repub Crash and Recession with it due to a dumb miscalculation.

I don't think it is possible to assume such a thing anymore. No, the disastrous, massive U.S. job-killing result of their one and only economic solution to everything has been too consistent for almost a century to be anything but intentional. As stupid as we might think Repubs are about it, nobody could be that stupid that consistently and that often due to a mere lack of basic math skills.This from the guy who defends Carter and supports Barack Hussein Okenya, the only president in American history never to have a full year of growth above 3%. LOL.

Chris P
06-14-21, 01:57
Hydroxychloroquine works. This is, of course, complete bullshit. See https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2016638 and https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20) 30389-8/ fulltext.

The Virus came from a Chinese lab. This is far from a proven fact. Plus, trump claimed the release was dejliberate. https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2020/06/18/trump-suggests-china-may-have-intentionally-allowed-coronavirus-to-spread/?sh=8b733f233f1c.

Hunter Biden's laptop was real. And even Fux News couldn't make much out of it.

Lafayette Square was not cleared for a photo op. And this comes out after HOW MANY months? If this was REALLY true, the relevant parties would have shown proof immediately. I wonder who got paid off?

The "Russian Bounties" story was fake. Bad intel. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/us/politics/russian-bounties-afghanistan-intelligence.html.

We did produce vaccines before the end of 2020, in record time. And how many idiot republikkkans won't get vaccinated because the vaccine alters your DNA, contains microchips, magnetizes you, etc? Dumb, dumber, dumbest https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/03/10386020/republican-men-against-covid-vaccine-anti-vaxxers.

Blue state lockdowns didn't work. BS. https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-03-10/2021-california-covid-economic-recovery-outpaces-us And besides, it is the CONSUMERS who control the reopening anyway https://www.idahostatejournal.com/coronavirus/i-will-not-die-of-stupid/article_d1a0aac9-f8be-5e93-9bcf-a2ad0ef34ea0.html..What a bunch of turgid fakenews wordsludge you just presented, none of which refutes any of the ten factual statements about leftist lies spewed toward President Trump.

Florida and Texas, both open for business, are doing better than New York and California, despite the latter having brutal and unconstitutional lockdowns.

Children are not vulnerable to covid, and teachers are no more vulnerable to it at school than going about normal life. Let them wear those stupid face visors on top of their triple-mask if they want.

The border, which Trump had got under control by keeping the illegals in Mexico, has now been thrown open deliberately by the dems because they know white people (and increasingly, black men) aren't stupid enough to vote for them so they need to replace them with a new base.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33042552/ = "Hydroxychloroquine is effective, and consistently so when provided early, for COVID-19".

Critical Race Theory, aka "some broke white guy in Appalachia be keeping me down" will just make people hate each other more.

The rest of what you barfed up is such non-sentient non-sequiturs there is nothing else to reply to.

Xpartan
06-14-21, 02:01
You're living in your own little fantasy world if you equate an understanding of the attack on the Liberty with supporting Trump or opposing covid vaccinations. A reflection of your mentality as absurd as equating objections to Isreali double-standards and crimes with anti-semitism.Equating rabid anti-Semites with Trumpists would be unfair indeed. Your lot is a special breed.

Golfinho
06-14-21, 03:55
Liberty was a tragic mistake. Nothing more, nothing less. Israel (during the war, mind you) would've knowingly attacked a ship of their only true ally in the whole wide world. Yeah, Isrealis made a mistake: they got caught red-handed. LOL.

With friends like Isreal, who needs enemies!

https://www.counterpunch.org/2007/06/09/searching-for-the-truth-about-the-uss-liberty/

GDreams
06-14-21, 04:29
Hydroxychloroquine works. This is, of course, complete bullshit. See https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2016638 and https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20) 30389-8/ fulltext.

The Virus came from a Chinese lab. This is far from a proven fact. Plus, trump claimed the release was dejliberate. https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2020/06/18/trump-suggests-china-may-have-intentionally-allowed-coronavirus-to-spread/?sh=8b733f233f1c.

Hunter Biden's laptop was real. And even Fux News couldn't make much out of it.

Lafayette Square was not cleared for a photo op. And this comes out after HOW MANY months? If this was REALLY true, the relevant parties would have shown proof immediately. I wonder who got paid off?

The "Russian Bounties" story was fake. Bad intel. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/us/politics/russian-bounties-afghanistan-intelligence.html..Thanks it becomes really tedious replying to these delusions regarding EX- President Trump.

So if Hunters laptop is real then why isn't there a grand jury convened like we have for Trump? Because it just deflection and no substance like all Republican talking points?

Look at the list here its all froth and no substance. None of it has any real importance.

Hydroxychloroquine had minimal impact on Covid mortality rates. How's the bleach injection going? Hard for the US to be taken seriously when the President utters that nonsense. With the so called best health system in the world the US mortality rates rank as one of the worst globally. By the way where is the great Trump health plan he promised?

There is no evidence that Covid came from a lab. There is no evidence it has been manipulated. Even if it did what are the consequences? The consequences of Trump claiming it was a hoax and would be over in no time at all is 600,000 dead and growing.

Schools are superspreader environments for diseases, lots of kids running around interacting then returning to homes with every conceivable bug going around. Why is it necessary to rush reopening? Could it be parents don't want to be bothered looking after the kids?

Basically out of the whole list there is only one thing that is an "achievement" which is the so called border security. We have seen the wall has been a complete waste of money as people still go over it, under it, around it or as always cross over legally and overstay. Every other thing on the list are just grievances of no importance at all. Its a pretty poor list that out of 30,000 lies during the Presidency you can only find 10 questionable ones that have zero importance.

Delusional Republican suckers 30000 cases of swallowing the bullshit and giving a shiteater grin afterwards.

GDreams
06-14-21, 04:54
So it is all coming out now how Trump Was spying on Democrats and reporters that he didn't like. Was a big crybaby claiming that his campaign being spied upon because of the FISA warrant on Carter Page but used the DOJ as his private investigation team on Senior Democrats and reporters covering his impeachment. He even spied on his own legal counsel. Lets hear from all the fascists here that think this is just fine.

Vagabundo1
06-14-21, 10:10
https://youtu.be/aqQv3qef21A

https://townhall.com/columnists/jeffcrouere/2021/06/13/calamity-kamala-is-an-international-laughingstock-n2590907

Upon becoming president, Joe Biden created a disaster at the nation's southern border. He foolishly ordered an immediate halt to the construction of our border wall. He also abandoned Trump administration policies that were clearly working. The result has been a massive increase in the number of illegal immigrants entering the United States.

This stampede of migrants has overwhelmed our resources at the border and created a true humanitarian catastrophe. To show he was taking action to deal with the problem, Biden appointed Vice President Kamala Harris to be his point person on the border crisis.

Even though he has selected crazed leftists for many of the positions in his administration, choosing Harris may have been his worst appointment. Harris is a total embarrassment who has never succeeded in any position throughout her political career.

As a presidential candidate, Harris departed the race early after a series of pathetic performances in debates. Her fundraising collapsed and she exited several months before the first presidential caucus.

Biden rescued her from political obscurity when he chose her as his running mate. As the vice-presidential candidate, she failed to capture the imagination of voters and was fairly ineffective. In her only televised debate with her Republican opponent, Vice President Mike Pence, she was terrible and lost convincingly.

Her performance as vice president has been even worse, so it is mystifying why Biden would choose her for such an important role as dealing with the border crisis. In this position, she has been even worse than expected, acting in an arrogant, ill-informed manner that has only exacerbated the crisis.

Vagabundo1
06-14-21, 10:38
https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/article251878483.html

I believe that the first porno with a "kamala" Femdom theme will be a multi millionaire!

Vagabundo1
06-14-21, 10:41
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2021/05/29/is-kamala-harris-a-gift-to-the-republicans

Here is what the millions of Americans who take their opinions from Fox News and related outlets have been hearing about Kamala Harris. The vice-president was put in charge of the southern border because she "has brown skin". Her picture book, "Superheroes Are Everywhere", was issued to migrant children, maybe corruptly. ("Is she profiting from Biden's border crisis?" tweeted Republican supremo Ronna McDaniel.) Metropolitan elites worship her; Vogue, which ignored lovely Melania Trump, put her (her!) on its cover. Her entrepreneur niece, Meena Harris, is an anti-white racist queen of cancel culture.

In other words, while the mainstream media soberly cover Ms Harris's efforts to win Joe Biden's trust and master her portfolio (which includes Mexico and Guatemala but not the border, where her book has not been issued to anyone), she is being relentlessly defined on the right as a dishonest member of the corrupt elite with an agenda alien to white America. Tucker Carlson—who during the election campaign refused to pronounce Ms Harris's Hindu name correctly—has neatly synthesised these two slanders. "She's a globalist superhero. Just like Voldemort, you can't really know how to pronounce her name."

So far, so predictable, you might say. But Ms Harris is no ordinary vice-president. As the first non-white, female vice-president of a party that has made diversity an organising principle, she is the presumptive next Democratic presidential nominee. It is hard, even at this early stage, to imagine her being denied. Given the 78-year-old Mr Biden's age, her elevation could be only three years off. And the election that would ensue—the Republicans' worsening derangement suggests—may well be as crucial as the one just past. This raises the question of whether she has what it takes to rise above the right-wing slanders and appeal to middle America, as Barack Obama did, or whether she will be destroyed by them, as Hillary Clinton was. And it is making senior Democrats nervous. "Everyone is saying, 'Oh God, Kamala is next and then we're in trouble' says a Democrat close to the White House.

Oratory aside, Mr Obama's success was based on an ability to reassure white Americans that was rooted in his intimate knowledge of them. The son of a white woman, brought up by his white grandmother, he promised better times for all and rarely mentioned race unprompted. Ms Harris is a different case. She is the daughter of South Asian and Jamaican immigrants, brought together by the civil-rights movement, who brought her up as black. Though nothing like the vindictive race-warrior of Mr Carlson's fevered imagining, she leans into black identity politics more than the former president did.

This is a good way to win elections in California. It would be a disastrous general-election strategy, as shown by the white backlash to Mr Obama, notwithstanding his carefulness, and by Ms Harris's failure to impress even black voters during her hapless presidential bid. African-Americans tend to support the Democratic candidate who seems likeliest to appeal to white voters, on which basis they preferred Mr Biden. And her Hail Mary effort to turn things round by accusing Mr Biden of racial insensitivity during a televised debate ("I do not believe you are a racist but.") only confirmed them in their choice. Polls suggested that black voters found it cynical and insincere.

The coverage of her current job has also been mixed. She has been accused of failing to carve out a well-defined "Veep" role or hire a sufficiently politically savvy staff. This is probably unfair. Her pressing need is to do whatever Mr Biden (with whom she had some making up to do) wants in order to make his administration successful. And she appears to be doing that. She was involved in the recent Middle-Eastern diplomacy. She is due to visit Mexico City next week. Though inexperienced in foreign policy, she is a polished front-woman who espouses Mr Biden's internationalist views. The criticism of her seems rather to reflect not only the underlying anxiety about her ability to succeed him, but also the unusual nature of her position.

Ever since Walter Mondale upgraded the vice-presidency in the late 1970's, most of its occupants have spent four years trying to make themselves useful; then a second term, if it transpired, laying the groundwork for a presidential run. The carping suggests Ms Harris is expected to do both things at once, which is unrealistic; and indeed she would be castigated if she tried to.

There is one political task she cannot delay, however. That is to understand why her presidential campaign failed, which was not mainly to do with her race or gender, however much of an electoral burden they may be. Her stump speech sounded like group-written marketing spiel (something about wanting to "prosecute the case against Donald Trump" Her promise—quickly rescinded—to scrap private medical insurance suggested a politician who had no clear idea where or what she stood for: whether on the left, with an emphasis on expanding the government, or towards the centre, with more focus on enterprise and opportunity. This was why the pundits and donors who at first flocked to her quickly moved on. It was in turn why she resorted to playing the race card against Mr Biden. No wonder she makes some Democrats nervous.

Kamala chameleon.

She should reflect on the fact that the centrist Mr Biden won as Mr Obama had before him: by promising hope, opportunity and togetherness for all. There is no evidence that Democrats can get round Americans' mistrust of government and vexed racial politics any other way (however they may hope to govern). Mr Obama, a big admirer of Ms Harris, must believe she can pull off the same trick. Talking up her vice-presidential credentials was one of his two big political calls last year. The other was his initial dismissiveness of Mr Biden. It would be a terrible shame if the former president turned out to be wrong on both counts.

PVMonger
06-14-21, 13:34
You're living in your own little fantasy world if you equate an understanding of the attack on the Liberty with supporting Trump or opposing covid vaccinations. A reflection of your mentality as absurd as equating objections to Isreali double-standards and crimes with anti-semitism.Trump supporters do oppose getting the covid vaccine. Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it false and just because Tucker Carlson doesn't talk about it doesn't make it true.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/21/republican-men-covid-coronavirus-vaccine-poll

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/14/us/politics/republicans-covid-vaccines.html

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/03/10386020/republican-men-against-covid-vaccine-anti-vaxxers

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/554005-state-vaccine-rates-fall-along-red-blue-divide

Canada
06-14-21, 13:39
I agree. And I submit Biden has a better plan in every way than the former guy.

Not that Trump had a plan at all with regard to China other than to frame them as the "Yellow Menace" out of one side of his mouth to thrill his lamebrain base while lying in perfect sync with Xi out of the other side of his mouth about the known (to him) threat and risk of the spread of the coronavirus to the point of triggering a Pandemic that could have been avoided if an honorable POTUS with real concern about American lives and the economy had been in that position at the time. His only focused goal with China appears to have been to beg them to "Make sure I win." lol. He lost that negotiation, too.

History will forever show that Trump was the wrong person in the wrong job at the wrong time and, not surprisingly, tragically wrong about everything important. As was easily predictable by anyone paying attention.Biden plan! What a joke. Biden showed his incompetence again. Confusing Libya and Syria several times. Putin thanked Biden for enhancing Russia oil and gas economy while shutting down USA production and drilling. Putin joked about $4. 00 gas in USA. Biden is the laughing stock oh G7. I see you as well as several other countries are happy with a weaker America under Biden than a strong USA under Trump. Why are you so anti American. Why do you want USA to fail?

Canada
06-14-21, 13:45
Hydroxychloroquine works. This is, of course, complete bullshit. See https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2016638 and https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20) 30389-8/ fulltext.

The Virus came from a Chinese lab. This is far from a proven fact. Plus, trump claimed the release was dejliberate. https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2020/06/18/trump-suggests-china-may-have-intentionally-allowed-coronavirus-to-spread/?sh=8b733f233f1c.

Hunter Biden's laptop was real. And even Fux News couldn't make much out of it.

Lafayette Square was not cleared for a photo op. And this comes out after HOW MANY months? If this was REALLY true, the relevant parties would have shown proof immediately. I wonder who got paid off?

The "Russian Bounties" story was fake. Bad intel. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/us/politics/russian-bounties-afghanistan-intelligence.html.

We did produce vaccines before the end of 2020, in record time. And how many idiot republikkkans won't get vaccinated because the vaccine alters your DNA, contains microchips, magnetizes you, etc? Dumb, dumber, dumbest https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2021/03/10386020/republican-men-against-covid-vaccine-anti-vaxxers.

Blue state lockdowns didn't work. BS. https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-03-10/2021-california-covid-economic-recovery-outpaces-us And besides, it is the CONSUMERS who control the reopening anyway https://www.idahostatejournal.com/coronavirus/i-will-not-die-of-stupid/article_d1a0aac9-f8be-5e93-9bcf-a2ad0ef34ea0.html.

Schools should be opened. Sure. But not the expense of children or teachers.

Critical Race Theory is a disaster for our schools and our Country. Critical Race Theory is a disaster for racists, white supremacists and republikkkans. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/05/gops-critical-race-theory-fixation-explained/618828/.

Our Southern Border security program was unprecedentedly successful". So was trump's.

Trump 10 - Fake News Deep State Dems 0. Trump got kicked to the curb. Unfortunately, republicans still exist. But everybody knows they are liars anyway.Has Watching fake news made you this stupid? Your post shows you don't have a clue. Critical race theory is socialists hate of Americans people and white people. Why do you hate white people and the USA. ? Why are so many people trying to enter USA illegally if it is such a horrible country?

Canada
06-14-21, 13:46
Unfortunately, "every sane person" leaves out the majority of trump supporters.

Any person who believes that the COVID vaccine changes your DNA or that the orange fruitcake won the election or that COVID has a 0.1% fatality rate, etc, is, by definition, insane. They live in their own little fantasy world where up is down, morning is night, trump never told a lie, tucker Carlson tells the truth and proof is what they say it is.The majority of the people left to vaccinate are blacks. Are you saying all blacks are Trump supporters?

Vagabundo1
06-14-21, 14:54
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/06/13/florida_gov_desantis_big_tech_censorship_doing_damage_to_society.html

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis discussed signing a bill he said will protect state residents' ability to access and participate in social media platforms and allows them to fight back against de-platforming and censorship during an interview on FNC's "Sunday Morning Futures. ".

GOV. RON DESANTIS: What they censored was actually true. They called it a conspiracy theory if you said this may have leaked from the lab. They were also censoring around the same time last year any criticisms of lockdowns. And we know now lockdowns didn't work. States like Florida that were open were better off for it.

And so you often hear people say, hey, these are private companies, they can do what they want, yadda, yadda, yadda. But here's an example of working with Fauci where Facebook, you could argue, is essentially acting as an arm of the state, because they're suppressing what the government wants suppressed.

And so I think this issue with big tech is unlike anything we have seen. They have massive amounts of power. These are monopolies that are much stronger than the monopolies of the early 20th century. They control, in effect, a handful of companies, a huge percentage of the political speech in this country.

And so I think, when you have a situations, they're not just censoring based on partisanship. Obviously, we have seen conservatives be censored. But when they're censoring things about some of the most important issues that we have ever addressed, how COVID started, whether lockdowns work. You know they're really doing damage to society.

Beno69
06-14-21, 15:21
.....Unfortunately, republicans still exist. But everybody knows they are liars anyway.And they are very dangerous. Still continue with the big lie and try to change the voting rights / rules in GOP counties with big Black and Latino communities to make voting for them very difficult. Even bring some voters in the line a drink would be a crime. Worlds democrazy nr. 1! - there is only 1 hope that this criminal ex president will go to jail for at least 10-20 years!

But I don't know what repeating the Trump Mafia fake news here have to do with mongering?

John Clayton
06-14-21, 15:50
The majority of the people left to vaccinate are blacks. Are you saying all blacks are Trump supporters?You lie:

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/

PVMonger
06-14-21, 16:16
What a bunch of turgid fakenews wordsludge you just presented, none of which refutes any of the ten factual statements about leftist lies spewed toward President Trump.

Florida and Texas, both open for business, are doing better than New York and California, despite the latter having brutal and unconstitutional lockdowns.

Children are not vulnerable to covid, and teachers are no more vulnerable to it at school than going about normal life. Let them wear those stupid face visors on top of their triple-mask if they want.

The border, which Trump had got under control by keeping the illegals in Mexico, has now been thrown open deliberately by the dems because they know white people (and increasingly, black men) aren't stupid enough to vote for them so they need to replace them with a new base."Florida and Texas, both open for business, are doing better than New York and California, despite the latter having brutal and unconstitutional lockdowns. " Wrong. Again. https://news.yahoo.com/lockdown-states-like-california-did-better-economically-than-looser-states-like-florida-new-covid-data-shows-153025163.html.

"Children are not vulnerable to covid". Just stop with the lies. Less vulnerable? Sure, but not "not vulnerable". https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/children/symptoms.html.

"Hydroxychloroquine is effective". Only in the warped minds of republikkkans. Not one randomiszed, double-blind study has proven that it is effective. But kkkonservatives would rather believe that because it "worked" on your cousin's boyfriend's uncle's plumber, IT IS A CURE. Stop listening to Tucker.

Ahh, the republican't "open border" argument. Please include one source where any Democratic politician from anywhere used the term "I support open borders."

Racist and republikkkans hate critical race theory because they can't handle the truth. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/05/gops-critical-race-theory-fixation-explained/618828/.

Canada
06-14-21, 16:23
And they are very dangerous. Still continue with the big lie and try to change the voting rights / rules in GOP counties with big Black and Latino communities to make voting for them very difficult. Even bring some voters in the line a drink would be a crime. Worlds democrazy nr. 1! - there is only 1 hope that this criminal ex president will go to jail for at least 10-20 years!

But I don't know what repeating the Trump Mafia fake news here have to do with mongering?Biden at G7 embarrassing USA and himself.

1. Interrupted Boris Johnson twice because he forgot what Boris said. Has to be corrected by Boris.

2. Broke protocol with the queen.

3. Got Syria and Libya mixed up 4 times.

4. Congratulated by Putin for helping Russia energy while destroying USA energy.

What a fool!

Trump looks awfully good right now in comparison to this clown.

I wonder how the idiots on here are going to spin Biden incompetence at G7?

PVMonger
06-14-21, 16:24
The 3.8 million figure is grossly inflated, as it includes everyone who died with covid rather than of it. Incentives were given to doctors and hospitals to get the number up by testing people dying or dead of something else. Many dying people caught it in hospital where they were about to die anyway. We all remember the notorious case of the guy killed in an auto accident who was counted as a covid death. And the average age of covid death is mid-80's, so half of them were late 80's and 90's, and were on the way out regardless.

At the same time, the 176 m figure is a tiny fraction of the real number. Most people who had it didn't even know that they did, and it went unreported. It is a highly contagious disease; once it gets out in a population there's little way to stop it, as the data has shown: countries and states with no lockdown had the same results as those with draconian lockdown. But for the vast majority, they either don't notice it or they have a couple of days of flu-like symptoms and get better. No trip to the hospital, no test, no report, they just continue with life (as we all should have).In other words, you don't like the data so, like any good republikkkan, you claim the data is fake news and make up your own.

No wonder republikkkans believe that trump won, that the vaccine changes your DNA, etc. Why not say the earth is flat? After all, it must be since all pictures from space only show one side.

Xpartan
06-14-21, 19:18
Yeah, Isrealis made a mistake: they got caught red-handed. LOL.

With friends like Isreal, who needs enemies!

https://www.counterpunch.org/2007/06/09/searching-for-the-truth-about-the-uss-liberty/You've already said that on at least 2 previous occasions. Although, I don't blame you. If anti-Semites don't get to repeat their old lies over and over again -- what's there to talk about?

It's funny, how both left-wing and write-wing nutheads have fallen in love with Counterpunch, a willing disseminator of Kremlin bot propaganda.

Golfinho
06-14-21, 20:06
You've already said that on at least 2 previous occasions. Although, I don't blame you. If anti-Semites don't get to repeat their old lies over and over again -- what's there to talk about?

It's funny, how both left-wing and write-wing nutheads have fallen in love with Counterpunch, a willing disseminator of Kremlin bot propaganda.I don't blame you, ashkanazic trolls always need an enemy, for that tribe cohesion thing and ADL fundraising, you know, how they're always the victim and everyone's telling lies about them. You're parroting lines from an outdated hasbara playbook. Shut it down, the deliberate attack on the Liberty is well-known. It's funny how good people have fallen in love with the truth. That is something evidently beyond your comprehension.

Golfinho
06-14-21, 20:28
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2021/05/29/is-kamala-harris-a-gift-to-the-republicans

Here is what the millions of Americans who take their opinions from Fox News and related outlets have been hearing about Kamala Harris. The vice-president was put in charge of the southern border because she "has brown skin". Her picture book, "Superheroes Are Everywhere", was issued to migrant children, maybe corruptly. ("Is she profiting from Biden's border crisis?" tweeted Republican supremo Ronna McDaniel.) Metropolitan elites worship her; Vogue, which ignored lovely Melania Trump, put her (her!) on its cover. Her entrepreneur niece, Meena Harris, is an anti-white racist queen of cancel culture.

In other words, while the mainstream media soberly cover Ms Harris's efforts to win Joe Biden's trust and master her portfolio (which includes Mexico and Guatemala but not the border, where her book has not been issued to anyone), she is being relentlessly defined on the right as a dishonest member of the corrupt elite with an agenda alien to white America. Tucker Carlsonwho during the election campaign refused to pronounce Ms Harris's Hindu name correctlyhas neatly synthesised these two slanders. "She's a globalist superhero. Just like Voldemort, you can't really know how to pronounce her name."

So far, so predictable, you might say. But Ms Harris is no ordinary vice-president. As the first non-white, female vice-president of a party that has made diversity an organising principle, she is the presumptive next Democratic presidential nominee. It is hard, even at this early stage, to imagine her being denied. Given the 78-year-old Mr Biden's age, her elevation could be only three years off. And the election that would ensuethe Republicans' worsening derangement suggestsmay well be as crucial as the one just past. This raises the question of whether she has what it takes to rise above the right-wing slanders and appeal to middle America, as Barack Obama did, or whether she will be destroyed by them, as Hillary Clinton was. And it is making senior Democrats nervous. ..Who cares what the mainstream media says about Kamala Harris. It's entirely predictable.

The reality is the financial backers of the Democratic Party chose this former prosecutor who had been soundly rejected by the voters. She has no political base, and apparently no policy of her own. She can, in other words, be counted on to follow her marching orders, much as Obama had done. It's a shameless sign of our times that both candidates and voters are exploited on account of their skin color and gender.

Chris P
06-14-21, 21:24
Hydroxychloroquine had minimal impact on Covid mortality rates.........There is no evidence that Covid came from a lab. There is no evidence it has been manipulated..........Why is it necessary to rush reopening? Could it be parents don't want to be bothered looking after the kids?
1. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33042552/ - "Hydroxychloroquine is effective, and consistently so when provided early, for COVID-19".

2. https://nypost.com/2021/06/02/fauci-was-warned-that-covid-may-have-been-engineered-emails/ - "Dr. Anthony Fauci was warned that the coronavirus had possibly been "engineered" and appeared to be taking reports about it seriously — at the same time he was publicly downplaying the notion of the virus being created in a lab, according to his emails. Andersen also noted that he and others "all find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory" ".

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9629563/Chinese-scientists-created-COVID-19-lab-tried-cover-tracks-new-study-claims.html - "COVID-19 'has NO credible natural ancestor' and WAS created by Chinese scientists who then tried to cover their tracks with 'retro-engineering' to make it seem like it naturally arose from bats. The paper's authors, British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen, wrote that they have had 'prima facie evidence of retro-engineering in China' for a year. But were ignored by academics and major journals."

Are you seriously trying to tell us that of all the places in all the world, the virus just *happened* to occur, completely naturally, right next to the only virology institute in China, and one of the biggest in the world? LOL. It's like finding a little kid with chocolate all over his face, and his mom asks him where the chocolate bars went and he's like "I don't know".

3. British Medical Journal: https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n521 - "Closing schools is not evidence based and harms children. School closures have been implemented internationally with insufficient evidence for their role in minimising covid-19 transmission and insufficient consideration of the harms to children. Accumulating evidence shows that teachers and school staff are not at higher risk of hospital admission or death from covid-19 compared with other workers."

You really are absolutely full to the brim of fake news shit, aren't you.

Chris P
06-14-21, 21:26
In other wordsblablablaYet again, no refutation of the statements, just more ad hominem wordsludge. Nobody buys it, or the rest of your fake news.

Chris P
06-14-21, 21:32
Biden at G7 embarrassing USA and himself.

1. Interrupted Boris Johnson twice because he forgot what Boris said. Has to be corrected by Boris.

2. Broke protocol with the queen.

3. Got Syria and Libya mixed up 4 times.

4. Congratulated by Putin for helping Russia energy while destroying USA energy.

What a fool!

Trump looks awfully good right now in comparison to this clown.

I wonder how the idiots on here are going to spin Biden incompetence at G7?Great post. And this is all tightly controlled and stage managed. God knows what gaffes and senility the fake news and his handlers have managed to cover up.

Point 4 is particularly important. As opposed to the idiotic and empty ad hominem attacks from the fake news left and their useful idiots (some of whom are on this board), this is a concrete and clear example of Biden degrading the USA for Russia's gain. First he (or rather his handlers) cancelled the Keystone pipeline, costing America billions of dollars and tens of thousands of jobs; then he ok'd the Russia-Germany pipeline, giving Putin the immense power to switch off Europe's lights, and ruining the possibility of American LNG providers selling their product to Europe.

Chris P
06-14-21, 21:33
You lie:

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/What's the vaccination rate in Leningrad, John?

Chris P
06-14-21, 21:35
Why are so many people trying to enter USA illegally if it is such a horrible country?Excellent question. And one that the fake news globalist left can and will never answer.

Chris P
06-14-21, 21:36
https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/article251878483.html

I believe that the first porno with a "kamala" Femdom theme will be a multi millionaire!With Willie Brown as the male talent.

Chris P
06-14-21, 21:40
Even though he has selected crazed leftists for many of the positions in his administration, choosing Harris may have been his worst appointment. Harris is a total embarrassment who has never succeeded in any position throughout her political career.

As a presidential candidate, Harris departed the race early after a series of pathetic performances in debates. Her fundraising collapsed and she exited several months before the first presidential caucus.That's what happens when the only reason you got your job is your ability to swirl your tongue at 90 rpm on your boss's balls and ride him cowgirl till his cock falls off. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of wh0 res (why else would I be on this board) - just not in the position of vice-president of the USA.

Chris P
06-14-21, 21:50
Still continue with the big lie and try to change the voting rights / rules in GOP counties with big Black and Latino communities to make voting for them very difficult. Even bring some voters in the line a drink would be a crime. Translation: create equal voter ID regulations for all potential voters regardless of race. Anyone who has a drivers license, has cashed a check, has opened a bank account, has flown on a plane, has bought liquor or cigarettes, has rented a house, or has done various other simple and everyday things will already have a satisfactory photo ID. For the microscopic minority who haven't done any of those things, they can get one for free in a day. If they don't care to get one, that's fine. Voting is not mandatory and many people have no interest.

Almost all other democracies have similar photo ID rules; many of them more stringent.

Chris P
06-14-21, 21:54
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/06/13/florida_gov_desantis_big_tech_censorship_doing_damage_to_society.html

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis discussed signing a bill he said will protect state residents' ability to access and participate in social media platforms and allows them to fight back against de-platforming and censorship during an interview on FNC's "Sunday Morning Futures. ".

GOV. RON DESANTIS: What they censored was actually true. They called it a conspiracy theory if you said this may have leaked from the lab. They were also censoring around the same time last year any criticisms of lockdowns. And we know now lockdowns didn't work. States like Florida that were open were better off for it.

And so you often hear people say, hey, these are private companies, they can do what they want, yadda, yadda, yadda. But here's an example of working with Fauci where Facebook, you could argue, is essentially acting as an arm of the state, because they're suppressing what the government wants suppressed.

And so I think this issue with big tech is unlike anything we have seen. They have massive amounts of power. These are monopolies that are much stronger than the monopolies of the early 20th century. They control, in effect, a handful of companies, a huge percentage of the political speech in this country.

And so I think, when you have a situations, they're not just censoring based on partisanship. Obviously, we have seen conservatives be censored. But when they're censoring things about some of the most important issues that we have ever addressed, how COVID started, whether lockdowns work. You know they're really doing damage to society.Excellent post, and good on Governor DeSantis for his strong pushback for free speech.

The left needs to censor the right because the left's arguments are so weak and ludicrous. Open borders; tranny kids; BLM riots; shutting down American drilling, mining and manufacturing, and many more. Even with the censorship they still lose elections. If the right were able to get their ideas, arguments and policies out fairly, the left would barely win another seat.

Chris P
06-14-21, 21:56
...disseminator of Kremlin bot...Zzzzzzzz. The Russians under the bed!

Chris P
06-14-21, 22:00
"Florida and Texas, both open for business, are doing better than New York and California, despite the latter having brutal and unconstitutional lockdowns. " Wrong. Again. https://news.yahoo.com/lockdown-states-like-california-did-better-economically-than-looser-states-like-florida-new-covid-data-shows-153025163.htmlWait, the fake news is claiming that lockdown states did better *economically* than free states? HAHAHA! I thought you were ridiculous before but you've really jumped the shark now. Thanks for the laugh.

Elvis 2008
06-14-21, 22:09
There is no evidence that Covid came from a lab. There is no evidence it has been manipulated. Even if it did what are the consequences? The consequences of Trump claiming it was a hoax and would be over in no time at all is 600,000 dead and growing.I post again and again the Democratic leaning Stanford University research that showed that lockdowns did not work. NPI means non-pharmaceutical intervention.

"In summary, we fail to find strong evidence supporting a role for more restrictive NPIs in the control of COVID in early 2020," the study concludes. "We do not question the role of all public health interventions, or of coordinated communications about the epidemic, but we fail to find an additional benefit of stay-at-home orders and business closures. The data cannot fully exclude the possibility of some benefits.

Implementing any NPIs was associated with significant reductions in case growth in 9 out of 10 study countries, including South Korea and Sweden that I'mplemented only lrNPIs (Spain had a nonsignificant effect). After subtracting the epi-demic and lrNPI effects, we find no clear, significant beneficial effect of mrNPIs on case growth in any country. While small benefits cannot be excluded, we do not find significant benefits on case growth of more restrictive NPIs. Similar reductions in case growth may be achievable with less- restrictive interventions.

So tell me, douche, were there Covid restrictions under Trump? If not, then you have a point. If Trump implemented ANY restrictions and he did, you are just a lying piece of shit.

You can make fun of all the dumb things Trump said, calling it a hoax, saying it was going away in the summer, injecting bleach but tell me WTF does that have to do with a virus spreading? What has been proven to have worked that Trump did not do? You have nothing. You blamed him for the pandemic unfairly and between that and the cheating, parlayed an election victory.

Now to the second half of the claim where the virus did not come out of a lab.

For all the claims of intelligence you have, you Democratic douches are really communists, and you take fucking marching orders from the Democratic powers that be. You do not critically think about anything that happens. There is no proof that the presidential election was manipulated right? I can show you the fraud in Arizona, the video of Fulton County Georgia, but it means nothing. If it is not in the NY Times or Washington Post or MSNBC, it is not real to you.

If you used your brain and were critical of what the WP was saying versus what they were doing, which clearly you are not capable of, you would see a conflict. For example, Jeff Bezos, the majority owner of Amazon and the WP, is not allowing Fauci's book to be sold. I would ask your opinion as to why, but seeing as how you have not been given a reason by the WP / NYT / MSNBC, you do not have one.

As for the video linked with this blog, https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/video-live-bats-wuhan-lab-reveals-daszak-lied-now-deleted-tweet, your response is predictable. Zero Hedge is stupid. That the 16 minute video is there horrifical and damaging to Fauci, Daszak (who is he right? The WHO, and China is of no consequence to you because in your words, there is no proof the lab leak theory is true. What you really mean though is the NYT, Washington Post, and MSNBC have not said the lab leak theory is true and being the good communist you are, that is good enough.

As your fellow Democratic douche PV Monger said, youtube videos do not count, and this, a news video on a trash blog site like Zerohedge.com, has to not count either.

Thing is the book that Australian journalist is writing, Sherri Markson, is being presold on Amazon, and IMO Bezos got a draft of it, read it, and spread word to his fellow Democratic leaders in the tech community that Fauci was lying his ass off to them. That is why IMO there was the sea change with regards to censoring the lab leak theory.

They have made up their minds already what is to be done with Fauci, and that is to get him canned, blame Republicans for his ouster, and give him a heroic sendoff. For those Democratic douches and for you GDreams, nearly 4 million dead was a small price to pay for getting rid of Trump.

Because of the red-blue divide, those truly responsible for the pandemic escape punishment. That is the thing with you Democratic douches. You get all worked up about Roger Stone and General Flynn who hurt no one but with these scientists and the Chinese, they get a pass. No one on the blue team can be found guilty of anything these days even the death of nearly 4 million people.

EihTooms
06-15-21, 01:02
This from the guy who defends Carter and supports Barack Hussein Okenya, the only president in American history never to have a full year of growth above 3%. LOL.And this was before Trump's disastrous economic decisions came to full horrific bloom in 2020...

Trumps Economic Growth Is Slower Than Obamas Last 3 Years
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/01/trumps-economic-growth-is-slower-than-obamas-last-3-years/

Um...you must have only heard Team Trump's too soon crowing about hitting 3% annual GDP growth but missed the later, uh, downgrade.

Oops: Trumps Historic Economic Growth Downgraded To Meh
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/trump-revised-economic-growth

Seriously. Repubs, "Bothsiders" and other pro-Repub factions should stick to claims of saving Mr. Potato Head and steer clear of ANY discussion of important issues like the USA Economy, USA jobs creation, the stock market, deficit and debt, national security, foreign policy, border control, etc.

Chris P
06-15-21, 01:51
Um...you must have only heard Team Trump's too soon crowing about hitting 3% annual GDP growth but missed the later, uh, downgrade.https://www.bea.gov/news/2019/initial-gross-domestic-product-4th-quarter-and-annual-2018

"During 2018 (measured from the fourth quarter of 2017 to the fourth quarter of 2018), real GDP increased 3.1 percent".

Um. Nobody believes your, uh, fake news.

Chris P
06-15-21, 02:07
Who cares what the mainstream media says about Kamala Harris. It's entirely predictable.

The reality is the financial backers of the Democratic Party chose this former prosecutor who had been soundly rejected by the voters. She has no political base, and apparently no policy of her own. She can, in other words, be counted on to follow her marching orders, much as Obama had done. It's a shameless sign of our times that both candidates and voters are exploited on account of their skin color and gender.Obama was at least, with the help of the fake news media who promoted his campaign endlessly in 2008, a reasonably charismatic figure with some semblance of a popular movement behind him. Harris was literally forced to drop out of the presidential primaries before a single vote was cast, such was her incredible unpopularity even with her own side! Beto O'Rourke lasted longer, which is as big a political insult as you can give.

Harris is a dim, smug, untalented, unlikeable, cackling mediocrity who encapsulates the very essence of the term "diversity hire". If not for her race and the fact that she worked married 60 year old San Francisco mayor Willie Brown's cock like a starving WG in wartime, she would be chasing up unpaid parking fines in Reno. If she runs for president in 2024, the deep state are going to have to conjure up a whole lot more fake ballots than however many millions they needed to get Joe's husk across the line last year.

GDreams
06-15-21, 09:59
1. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33042552/ - "Hydroxychloroquine is effective, and consistently so when provided early, for COVID-19".

2. https://nypost.com/2021/06/02/fauci-was-warned-that-covid-may-have-been-engineered-emails/ - "Dr. Anthony Fauci was warned that the coronavirus had possibly been "engineered" and appeared to be taking reports about it seriously at the same time he was publicly downplaying the notion of the virus being created in a lab, according to his emails. Andersen also noted that he and others "all find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory" ".

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9629563/Chinese-scientists-created-COVID-19-lab-tried-cover-tracks-new-study-claims.html - "COVID-19 'has NO credible natural ancestor' and WAS created by Chinese scientists who then tried to cover their tracks with 'retro-engineering' to make it seem like it naturally arose from bats. The paper's authors, British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Srensen, wrote that they have had 'prima facie evidence of retro-engineering in China' for a year. But were ignored by academics and major journals..1. A review of studies found on Google. Underwhelming.

2. As I said no proof just conjecture. This is a virus that has developed 4 major strains in 1 year and I'm guessing many more that were outcompeted. Just like all the low IQ republicans you cannot differentiate between opinion and fact. Is it possible it has had man altered DNA, yes, is there any proof, no. Could it have escaped from a lab specifically set up to study viruses collected from nature, yes, is it proven, no. Will it likely be proven, no because the Chinese will not cooperate. Where does that leave you? Drivelling nonsense conspiracy theories as though they are facts.

3. I didn't offer either of these as a reason. Schools are spreader environments for many contagious diseases. The issue is not how sick the students get or the teachers but the parents, grandparents, other family members and all the other multitudes op people that children interact with. Also as I pointed out above there are now 4 strains. The more hosts the more strains develop, ones which are more contagious and have greater impacts such as vaccine resistance.

As I said previously you can't swallow enough of the bullshit.

Elvis 2008
06-15-21, 12:15
https://twitter.com/i/status/1404665481886195717

"I think we owe a great debt of gratitude to science. Science has, in many ways, helped ease the suffering of this pandemic, which was more than likely caused by science," Stewart said after Colbert asked how he was feeling about the scientific response to COVID-19.

"Do you mean perhaps there's a chance that this was created in a lab?" asked Colbert, adding "There's an investigation."

"A chance?" shot back Stewart. Kicking the door open.

"Oh my god, there's a novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking Wuhan, China, what do we do? Oh, you know who we could ask? The Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab. The disease is the same name as the lab. That's just a little too weird, don't you think? And then they asked those scientists. They're like 'how did this. So wait a minute, you work at the Wuhan respiratory coronavirus lab. How did this happen?' and they're like 'mmmm. A pangolin kissed a turtle?' and you're like 'no. The name of your lab! If you look at the name! Can I. Let me see your business card. Show me your business card. Oh. I work at the coronavirus lab in Wuhan. Oh, cause there's a coronavirus loose in Wuhan. How did that happen?

'Maybe a bat. Flew into the Cloaca of a turkey and. Then it sneezed into my chili. And now we all have Coronavirus."

Stewart landed one final joke as Colbert desperately tried to control the situation;.

"Hold it, hold it! What about this, what about this. Listen to this! 'OH MY GOD, there's been an outbreak of chocolately goodness near Hershey, Pennsylvania. What do you think happened?

'Oh I don't know, maybe a steam shovel mated with a cocoa bean?

"Or. It's the fucking chocolate factory! Maybe that's it!" Stewart screamed.

"Can I say this about scientists?" Stewart said after the break. "I love them and they do such good work but they are going to kill us all."

This was an epic rant, and the libtards on Twitter called Stewart a racist calling for hate on Asian American and spewing conspiracy theories. You cannot make this shit up!

PVMonger
06-15-21, 14:27
I post again and again the Democratic leaning Stanford University research that showed that lockdowns did not work. NPI means non-pharmaceutical intervention.

"In summary, we fail to find strong evidence supporting a role for more restrictive NPIs in the control of COVID in early 2020," the study concludes. "We do not question the role of all public health interventions, or of coordinated communications about the epidemic, but we fail to find an additional benefit of stay-at-home orders and business closures. The data cannot fully exclude the possibility of some benefits.

Implementing any NPIs was associated with significant reductions in case growth in 9 out of 10 study countries, including South Korea and Sweden that I'mplemented only lrNPIs (Spain had a nonsignificant effect). After subtracting the epi-demic and lrNPI effects, we find no clear, significant beneficial effect of mrNPIs on case growth in any country. While small benefits cannot be excluded, we do not find significant benefits on case growth of more restrictive NPIs. Similar reductions in case growth may be achievable with less- restrictive interventions.

So tell me, douche, were there Covid restrictions under Trump? If not, then you have a point. If Trump implemented ANY restrictions and he did, you are just a lying piece of shit.

You can make fun of all the dumb things Trump said, calling it a hoax, saying it was going away in the summer, injecting bleach but tell me WTF does that have to do with a virus spreading? What has been proven to have worked that Trump did not do? You have nothing. You blamed him for the pandemic unfairly and between that and the cheating, parlayed an election victory...Why is it that you are too scared to provide us with the actual link to the Stanford research?

Once again, like a good trump supporter, you call anything that doesn't support your position fake news.

EihTooms
06-15-21, 16:30
https://www.bea.gov/news/2019/initial-gross-domestic-product-4th-quarter-and-annual-2018

"During 2018 (measured from the fourth quarter of 2017 to the fourth quarter of 2018), real GDP increased 3.1 percent".

Um. Nobody believes your, uh, fake news.Yeah, that 3.1% thingy was the initial estimate. See where it says "(Initial Estimate)" in your link? Then, as is always done, it got revised as more data came in.

In Trump's case, it was revised downward to below 3%. By his own Commerce Department. LOL.

When numbskull Trump and his fellow congressional Repub numbskulls flushed $2.5+ Trillion down the shitter with their one and only significant economic legislation in December 2017, he sold that worthless crap to the American public by predicting we would get "4%, 5%, maybe 6% annualized GDP growth" from it.

We didn't even get one annualized GDP growth year better than what Obama got.

From FUX News Channel Murdoch's Wall Street Journal:

Economic Growth Didnt Hit 3% Mark Last Year, Revised Data Show.
President Trump has promised to boost growth to 3% or more through his policies
https://www.wsj.com/articles/economic-growth-didnt-hit-3-mark-last-year-revised-data-show-11564144200

D Cups
06-15-21, 16:47
Obama was at least, with the help of the fake news media who promoted his campaign endlessly in 2008, a reasonably charismatic figure with some semblance of a popular movement behind him. Harris was literally forced to drop out of the presidential primaries before a single vote was cast, such was her incredible unpopularity even with her own side! Beto O'Rourke lasted longer, which is as big a political insult as you can give.

Harris is a dim, smug, untalented, unlikeable, cackling mediocrity who encapsulates the very essence of the term "diversity hire". If not for her race and the fact that she worked married 60 year old San Francisco mayor Willie Brown's cock like a starving WG in wartime, she would be chasing up unpaid parking fines in Reno. If she runs for president in 2024, the deep state are going to have to conjure up a whole lot more fake ballots than however many millions they needed to get Joe's husk across the line last year.Well stated, Chris. Expect more mud-slingling, however.

Beno69
06-15-21, 17:29
Well stated, Chris. Expect more mud-slingling, however.Trump is the worst. Most criminal dictator style - 2 times impeached - 1 time president and looser ever in US history. And I hope soon he will sit in jail for 10-20 years!

Elvis 2008
06-15-21, 18:13
Why is it that you are too scared to provide us with the actual link to the Stanford research?Because I have posted it twice before.

Elvis 2008
06-15-21, 18:22
1. A review of studies found on Google. Underwhelming.It is not all Google. It really is amazing how much you Democratic douches lie.


Could it have escaped from a lab specifically set up to study viruses collected from nature, yes, is it proven, no. Will it likely be proven, no because the Chinese will not cooperate. Where does that leave you? Drivelling nonsense conspiracy theories as though they are facts.You forgot to mention the lab leak theory is racist, douche. With that logic, OJ did not kill his wife because there was no video of it happening. With Covid, there was a cover-up, a completely fake as shit theory. There was censorship, and there is no other credible theory just like there was no other credible killer in OJ's case.

Maybe you should spend some time and energy looking for Nicole Simpson's real killer at least then you would be consistent.

PVMonger
06-15-21, 19:32
Trump is the worst. Most criminal dictator style - 2 times impeached - 1 time president and looser ever in US history. And I hope soon he will sit in jail for 10-20 years!Hey, the trump supporters here are going to claim the following:

1. trump was never impeached; and.

2. trump didn't lose the 2020 election.

They don't have proof of any of that except that Tucker Carlson said it and he never lies.

Chris P
06-15-21, 20:23
Trump is the worst. Most criminal dictator style - 2 times impeached - 1 time president and looser ever in US history. And I hope soon he will sit in jail for 10-20 years!I guess the only thing worse than Trump is your English.

Chris P
06-15-21, 20:52
1. A review of studies found on Google. Underwhelming.

2. As I said no proof just conjecture. This is a virus that has developed 4 major strains in 1 year and I'm guessing many more that were outcompeted. Just like all the low IQ republicans you cannot differentiate between opinion and fact. Is it possible it has had man altered DNA, yes, is there any proof, no. Could it have escaped from a lab specifically set up to study viruses collected from nature, yes, is it proven, no. Will it likely be proven, no because the Chinese will not cooperate. Where does that leave you? Drivelling nonsense conspiracy theories as though they are facts.

3. I didn't offer either of these as a reason. Schools are spreader environments for many contagious diseases. The issue is not how sick the students get or the teachers but the parents, grandparents, other family members and all the other multitudes op people that children interact with. Also as I pointed out above there are now 4 strains. The more hosts the more strains develop, ones which are more contagious and have greater impacts such as vaccine resistance."No proof just conjecture" - even Jon Stewart just called out your utter horseshit. Trying to make people believe it just happened to occur naturally right next to the only virology lab in China. Scientists saying it has properties which do not occur naturally. Oh, and they still haven't produced the original animal that it supposedly came from. Please. That's as idiotic as trying to convince people that a man who cuts his dick off is just as much of a woman as Blake Lively. Oh wait, you do that too.

And no, moron, the data shows that people in schools are no more likely to get the disease there than anywhere else. By contrast, what is quite clear are the massive problems closing schools causes to children during their most important formative years. Their intellectual, social and physical development is being stunted for life; they are suffering from a huge increase in mental health issues and abuse. But of course you selfish leftwing don't give a damn about any of that, as long as teacher union members can sit around at home feeding their cats and draining the taxpayer.

Chris P
06-15-21, 20:54
https://twitter.com/i/status/1404665481886195717

"I think we owe a great debt of gratitude to science. Science has, in many ways, helped ease the suffering of this pandemic, which was more than likely caused by science," Stewart said after Colbert asked how he was feeling about the scientific response to COVID-19.

"Do you mean perhaps there's a chance that this was created in a lab?" asked Colbert, adding "There's an investigation."

"A chance?" shot back Stewart. Kicking the door open.

"Oh my god, there's a novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking Wuhan, China, what do we do? Oh, you know who we could ask? The Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab. The disease is the same name as the lab. That's just a little too weird, don't you think? And then they asked those scientists. They're like 'how did this. So wait a minute, you work at the Wuhan respiratory coronavirus lab. How did this happen?' and they're like 'mmmm. A pangolin kissed a turtle?' and you're like 'no. The name of your lab! If you look at the name! Can I. Let me see your business card. Show me your business card. Oh. I work at the coronavirus lab in Wuhan. Oh, cause there's a coronavirus loose in Wuhan. How did that happen?

'Maybe a bat. Flew into the Cloaca of a turkey and. Then it sneezed into my chili. And now we all have Coronavirus."This was brilliant. Stewart has escaped from the fake news reservation! No wonder they don't let him have his own show any more.

Chris P
06-15-21, 20:56
Well stated, Chris. Expect more mud-slingling, however.Thank you. Of course the fake news communist bullies will spew their bile; all the more reason to push back against them and their lies, which seek to destroy America and Americans.

PVMonger
06-15-21, 23:20
"No proof just conjecture" - even Jon Stewart just called out your utter horseshit. Trying to make people believe it just happened to occur naturally right next to the only virology lab in China. Scientists saying it has properties which do not occur naturally. Oh, and they still haven't produced the original animal that it supposedly came from. Please. That's as idiotic as trying to convince people that a man who cuts his dick off is just as much of a woman as Blake Lively. Oh wait, you do that too.

And no, moron, the data shows that people in schools are no more likely to get the disease there than anywhere else. By contrast, what is quite clear are the massive problems closing schools causes to children during their most important formative years. Their intellectual, social and physical development is being stunted for life; they are suffering from a huge increase in mental health issues and abuse. But of course you selfish leftwing don't give a damn about any of that, as long as teacher union members can sit around at home feeding their cats and draining the taxpayer.The last time I checked, Jon Stewart was a comedian. Please provide proof that he has a doctorate in epidemiology. Or something. Saying he doesn't agree with something is PROOF is as dumb as saying that trump is still president.

The fact that you disbelieve that school children don't bring home diseases is evidence you don't have children. If you did, you'd know that kids bring home everything imaginable and then pass that on to every member of the household. That's what trump-supporting morons don't understand and never have. It isn't simply the risk of contracting covid. It is the risk of catching it, being asymptomatic for a week or two and passing the disease to others, some of whom might be vulnerable. But trump supporters don't care about that. They just want to kill someone who asks them to wear a mask https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/06/14/face-mask-argument-georgia-supermaket-shooting-victims-suspect/7696567002/.

Elvis 2008
06-16-21, 00:45
"No proof just conjecture" - even Jon Stewart just called out your utter horseshit. Trying to make people believe it just happened to occur naturally right next to the only virology lab in China. Scientists saying it has properties which do not occur naturally. Oh, and they still haven't produced the original animal that it supposedly came from. Please. That's as idiotic as trying to convince people that a man who cuts his dick off is just as much of a woman as Blake Lively. Oh wait, you do that too.
Chris P, the entire future of the Democratic party is invested in "science". "Science" is when a guy who is clearly a pro-Democrat bureaucrat like Fauci commands 99.99% of the grant money and dictates to scientists what is legit and not. Fauci did not want to chase down infections in the wild as they happened. He wanted to create them in a lab and play around with them. If you thought that was dangerous or wrong, you were shunned and got no money.

I have a feeling the same thing is going on with climate change / global warming. If you do not do studies supporting climate change, you get no grant money.

Thing is that I read this great piece on global warming / climate change by a somewhat neutral observer, and it speaks volumes about how climate change is not science but politics.

https://freemansperspective.com/my-adventures-at-climate-change-central/

In 1999, my friend Henry Lamb mentioned that he had been attending UN meetings. I thought it sounded intriguing and asked for details. After all, reading about an organization is one thing; actually attending its meetings is another. And because I was so enthused, Henry offered to get me in to the Kyoto accord meetings in Bonn, Germany. (The official name was COP 5.)

When I arrived at the specified place and time, I found a magnificent hotel, surrounded by hundreds of soldiers and policemen. Everything was absolutely first class. To this day I don't think I've seen its equal in terms of high-end, well-run meetings. Everything was pristine; every need had been considered and addressed in advance.

The attendees, as you might suspect, were all well-dressed, and all appeared to be feeling special about attending such impressive, elite meetings. I, on the other hand, had a bit of a Groucho Marx moment: "I can't believe they let me into this place."

Once I started circulating, however, it became clear that "first class" extended no further than the physical layer. The presenters dressed well and tried to use impressive words; their PowerPoint slides were perfect, but the actual content was less than pedestrian.

I heard one speech where the speaker said that vast areas of her home country would be entirely underwater in ten years (which would have been 2009) and that every soul living there would be dead. As evidence, she referred to impressive names and organizations, who had "said so."

And that was the way the whole conference went. I kept thinking that there had to be someone there who was competent, that perhaps they were having the real meetings in some back room somewhere. If so, I never found them, and I had what appeared to be free run of the place.

As best I could tell, nearly every person at this event was someone making a living from global warming, or else some official's son, daughter, brother-in-law, or cousin. I found none that had any notable substance. They were flying first class, staying at magnificent hotels, eating in the finest restaurants, and, as I later learned, hiring the best prostitutes and snorting the best drugs. And they were doing it all on some government's tab.

I was able to get my hands on some of the UN's internal documentation (which, sadly, I've since lost). It showed that nearly every dollar they had spent on global warming – and it was many, many millions – was spent on meetings. Of course, they used lots of fancy euphemisms for "meetings," like "plenary sessions."

There were two primary types of officials present: those from the big states, who were looking for a new bureaucracy to run, and those from the small states, looking for a handout.

End of quotes.

This is the problem with these "scientists". Of course, they are going to spout off about the dangers of climate change and global warming. It keeps the gravy train rolling! Anyone who points out these conflicts of interest is stupid and anti-science.

What do you think happen to the speaker who predicted her country would be underwater in 2009? How much you want to bet that she is not only still sucking off the government teet but is being paid more than ever now?

Because of these Democratic douches, who will blame Trump for everything wrong in government, the CCP and these psychopathic "scientists" who caused this whole pandemic are going to walk free. The only people who are to blame for bad governance are Trump and Republicans. WTF did Trump have to do with the spread and production of the virus? His stupid words somehow miraculously caused the virus to spread. Can the Democrats point to one person who died because of Trump?

Someone mentioned that we split the country into red and blue, and that is fine with me. Those assholes can keep worshipping the killers: Fauci, Duszak, and the CCP. There is mass exodus out of the blue states going on as we speak.

D Cups
06-16-21, 00:57
Thank you. Of course the fake news communist bullies will spew their bile; all the more reason to push back against them and their lies, which seek to destroy America and Americans.True. I will leave the good fight to you, sir, as I am pending retirement in the Philippines with an extremely sexy and bright Filipina hottie. Taking the American flag with me, of course, and will fly it proudly wherever I land. I'm former military. USAF captain -after all. As for the future of the USA I don't have much confidence given the preponderance of doltism seen in this very thread. But as seen in the history books, America loves a comeback! Cheers, buddy!

GDreams
06-16-21, 01:09
"No proof just conjecture" - even Jon Stewart just called out your utter horseshit. Trying to make people believe it just happened to occur naturally right next to the only virology lab in China. Scientists saying it has properties which do not occur naturally. Oh, and they still haven't produced the original animal that it supposedly came from. Please. That's as idiotic as trying to convince people that a man who cuts his dick off is just as much of a woman as Blake Lively. Oh wait, you do that too.

And no, moron, the data shows that people in schools are no more likely to get the disease there than anywhere else. By contrast, what is quite clear are the massive problems closing schools causes to children during their most important formative years. Their intellectual, social and physical development is being stunted for life; they are suffering from a huge increase in mental health issues and abuse. But of course you selfish leftwing don't give a damn about any of that, as long as teacher union members can sit around at home feeding their cats and draining the taxpayer.In the UK they had an outbreak of foot and mouth due to a leak from a lab. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_Kingdom_foot-and-mouth_outbreak.

By your logic it must have been man made. Except it wasn't, the lab was studying foot and mouth.

Is it possible the Covid virus escaped from a lab that was studying such viruses, sure and what does that prove? What will anyone do about it? You make out that you have the worlds biggest discovery when in reality you don't have more than it was discovered there so it must be. The Chinese are not going to cooperate, just as the US would not cooperate if they were in the same position. You can't even stand the thought that your hero and his cronies be investigated for Jan 6. We all know its a lie, we all know Trump attempted a coup, we all know he should have been impeached, we all know they should be rounded up and put in prison for a long time but the delusional cult followers will all have psychotic episodes at the mere thought of this. So you spend time deflecting on stuff that will never be proven and what you can't do anything about.

GDreams
06-16-21, 01:20
It is not all Google. It really is amazing how much you Democratic douches lie.

You forgot to mention the lab leak theory is racist, douche. With that logic, OJ did not kill his wife because there was no video of it happening. With Covid, there was a cover-up, a completely fake as shit theory. There was censorship, and there is no other credible theory just like there was no other credible killer in OJ's case.

Maybe you should spend some time and energy looking for Nicole Simpson's real killer at least then you would be consistent.Well when the vaccine resistant strains of Covid start circulating make sure you insist on Hydroxychloroquine for your treatment.

I don't need to mention anything about racist theories. You have no evidence supporting your position. Its you fascists that want to bring race into everything. You just have a whole lot of conjecture and bullshit.

And think that everyone should be as gullible as you.

To make my point you are bringing in a totally irrelevant murder from decades ago to try and support your baseless position.

Canada
06-16-21, 02:31
Hey, the trump supporters here are going to claim the following:

1. trump was never impeached; and.

2. trump didn't lose the 2020 election.

They don't have proof of any of that except that Tucker Carlson said it and he never lies.Democrat House majority tried to impeach Trump twice on phony Russian collusion that was proved fake news. The senate proved his innocence. Obviously you missed that part.

Canada
06-16-21, 02:32
True. I will leave the good fight to you, sir, as I am pending retirement in the Philippines with an extremely sexy and bright Filipina hottie. Taking the American flag with me, of course, and will fly it proudly wherever I land. I'm former military. USAF captain -after all. As for the future of the USA I don't have much confidence given the preponderance of doltism seen in this very thread. But as seen in the history books, America loves a comeback! Cheers, buddy!Congratulations. !! I think you might be the smartest guy on this forum with your Filipino hottie.

Paulie97
06-16-21, 02:41
In the UK they had an outbreak of foot and mouth due to a leak from a lab. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_Kingdom_foot-and-mouth_outbreak.

By your logic it must have been man made. Except it wasn't, the lab was studying foot and mouth.

Is it possible the Covid virus escaped from a lab that was studying such viruses, sure and what does that prove? What will anyone do about it? You make out that you have the worlds biggest discovery when in reality you don't have more than it was discovered there so it must be. The Chinese are not going to cooperate, just as the US would not cooperate if they were in the same position. You can't even stand the thought that your hero and his cronies be investigated for Jan 6. We all know its a lie, we all know Trump attempted a coup, we all know he should have been impeached, we all know they should be rounded up and put in prison for a long time but the delusional cult followers will all have psychotic episodes at the mere thought of this. So you spend time deflecting on stuff that will never be proven and what you can't do anything about.Very well stated. And the cult is going back on the road next week, and at an arena near you.

Beno69
06-16-21, 04:36
I guess the only thing worse than Trump is your English.Yes Chris I agree about my English. If you like we can communicate in German / French / Italian / Bahasa Indonesia.

It's always the same, if this dumb people text 10 000 pages only with fake news and then complain about the bad English. - In fact a don't care about the USA. But Trump made everywhere chaos. For his profit. It will take years to fix it!

Dublin12
06-16-21, 09:57
Yes elections have consequences and this one hurt the majority of Americans. My only satisfaction is that it is going to hurt you and the rest of the people who voted for these people far more than it is going to hurt me.The polls are showing a 53% approval rating for Biden, and he has never been below 52%. Why do the majority of Americans not "reailse" they are being hurt? Since Jan 20th, CV cases are down 93% and deaths, by 92%. Yup! No doubt about it. Biden really is hurting Americans. Especially Funeral Homes.

Dublin12
06-16-21, 10:05
Dublin doesn't even know sarcasm when he sees it!And you don't recognise irony. Something you post as sarcasm is seriously undercut when it turns out to be true.

BTW, have you ever entered "the lowest form of wit" into a search engine?

Dublin12
06-16-21, 10:15
Your post doesn't make sense. CNN just came out saying that the white people were getting vaccinated in much greater masses than the black community. Are you saying all the black communities are all Trump supporters? I thought all white people were racist and so therefore they are Trump supporters. Why are these racist white people getting the vaccines before the black communities?Attempting to put words into others mouths, never does anything for the paucity of an argument.

During the meantime I am just loving the stories of anti-vaxxers who were anti-maskers, but have reversed their position on masks because of concerns that they may breathe in vaxxed air. The real stupidity of that is that if they think that wearing a mask protects them from that, then why did they not realise that masks offer some protection from CV?

Vagabundo1
06-16-21, 10:20
If you wanted to make a ton of money, you would shoot the above title, with chicks with (strapon) dicks.

When (not if) this happens, just send the royalties to Vagabundo1 in. NL haha.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/aoc-honest-democrat-border-crisis-david-marcus

Is Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the-and. Why. , the most honest Democrat in Washington? At least as far as the current border crisis goes the answer to that question increasingly seems to be yes.

The progressive darling's spat with embattled Vice President Kamala Harris last week was instructive. Harris made a speech in Guatemala telling migrants not to come to the United States. AOC clapped back, as is so often her won't, asking who are we to tell denizens of Central American countries we meddled with not to seek refuge in our nation.

So which is the true policy of the Democrats? Is it "Don't come" or is it come on in?

Let's look back to a June 2019 Democratic presidential primary debate. At that time, every candidate, including Biden and Harris was asked if they support free health care for people in the country illegally. Every one of them snapped their arms up in the affirmative, except for the current president; he kind of half raised his hand as if he wanted to make a more nuanced point. It was a microcosm of liberal immigration policy itself.

AOC Calls Harris' immigration comments 'disappointing' as VP warns migrants 'do not come'.

The clear message was that the Zeitgeist of the party was on the side of open borders with swag bags full of taxpayer-funded goodies. It was only Biden, who we are supposed to believe is some kind of old school moderate that at least pretended to have reservations. But that is a minority position now, and after all it was Free Heath Care Harris who the administration put in charge of stemming the flow of illegal migrants.

White House 'perplexed' by Harris' border answers: report Video.

As the number of illegal border crossings surges to levels not seen in decades the proof of the president's priorities is in the pudding. Whatever policy Biden might want to pursue on the Mexican border, and who knows what that is, the direct result has been a massive influx of migrants straining the resources of border protection agencies and the patience of Americans who live there.

Democrats want open borders. Kamala Harris knows it, AOC knows it, and the American people know it. So let's knock it off with Biden's pretend concern over the overrun border and talk like adults in the real world.

Given all of this isn't it clear now that AOC's version of dealing with illegal immigration is far closer to current Democrat orthodoxy than Harris' tepid and limp message of "Don't come?

Kamala Harris's 'Root Causes' Tour in Central America Video.

Harris won't even visit the border but instead insists we must focus on "root causes. " If the crisis can't be solved until Guatemala and Honduras have marvelous functioning governments and economies then the American people are going to be waiting quite a long time indeed.

VP Harris 'advocating for lawlessness,' border patrol union president says.

The advantage to Ocasio-Cortez saying the quiet part out loud on immigration is that at least it can be a place to begin on negotiations.

Her Ellis Island era style approach to immigration that would let almost anyone enter the USA Can be met with reasonable questions about entitlements. Guest worker programs and the like can be discussed.

Biden won't solve the border crisis by making excuses: JuddVideo.

The Biden policy cannot be negotiated because there is no Biden policy. Instead there is status quo that floods the border with no real plans for the future.

Immigration surge driven by 'crazy Biden policies': REP. Jordan.

Nobody believes that Biden or Harris have even the slightest intention of getting tough on the border.

Fine. Just say so.

Make that the policy of the Democratic Party so the country can have a real conversation about an issue that stretches back decades.

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Say what you will about Ocasio-Cortez but much like former President Trump she says what she means. We don't have to read between the lines.

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So let's knock it off with Biden's pretend concern over the overrun border and talk like adults in the real world.

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The only thing that should be off the table right now is doing nothing, but nothing is exactly what Biden is doing.

If AOC has real answers, even if they are the wrong ones, then she is the Democrat we should paying attention to in dealing with the border crisis.

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Dublin12
06-16-21, 10:29
This is the opinion of the far left media. When you get your vaccine it asked your race but none of the vaccinating facilities asked your political affiliation. When I got vaccinated the did not ask me if I was a Republican or a Socialist.

The numbers are not clear that Biden supporters have received more vaccinations than Trump supporters. The numbers are only clear that Blacks are resisting vaccinations.If you read the post properly, it is quite clear that the polls were not conducted at "vaccinating facilities". It states that it was a Marist Poll, and that people were asked if they had been vaxxed.

Dublin12
06-16-21, 10:39
I don't disagree with you as your point is well taken. A poll of 1000 people taken in New York would be drastically different than a poll of 1000 from Wyoming. I for sure don't trust anything CNN says as fact or the truth but I thought all the democrats believe CNN for everything. I got vaccinated in a big city at Walgreens. When I was eligible I went online and in our area there were no appointments available every day but in the area of blacks and Hispanics there were 15-17 appointments available every day of the week. This tells me the blacks and Hispanics were not getting vaccinated. When I got mine there were a few Hispanics but no blacks for my first shot and then my second shot. This also led me to believe blacks were not getting vaccinated.How true to form you are. Yet again you made a fool of yourself by trying to undercut the OP, and then rather than say, "My apologies, I misunderstood", you then change the subject to challenge the validity of the poll. I think I'm done with your persistent bad faith and whataboutery.

GDreams
06-16-21, 10:39
Democrat House majority tried to impeach Trump twice on phony Russian collusion that was proved fake news. The senate proved his innocence. Obviously you missed that part.Once again Canada shows how clueless he is. Trump was impeached twice, once for withholding approved aid to pressure Ukraine into carrying out an investigation into Hunter Biden which was clearly for his personal gain and once for inciting the violence that occurred on Jan 6. Both times did the spineless Senate Republicans refuse to uphold the grievances though on the second case there were 7 that supported a conviction. No Russia in any of this apart from all the disinformation about Hunter Biden. We all know he is guilty but there is no longer in honour in the Republican party. Lets see how he goes with the current Grand Jury outcomes. After that I am sure there will be fraud investigations for his political fundraising as his business is pretty much down the toilet.

Vagabundo1
06-16-21, 11:31
Stop and think.

To be a part of this ISG forum:

1. You must be a monger, IE, P4P, paying women for sex.

2. You can't discuss homo or TS BS.

So that means this is mostly men (and women who like to P4 p women, which turns me on).

This is like that conservative temple all male martial arts team of your dreams group where you could still have a dick (that you were born with) and not be ashamed of using it, and talk trash, like.

The top grossing porn of all time will be when "Kamala Harris" and "AOC" and "Ilhan Omar" 69 with each other before fucking each other with strapons before you, the POV hero, fuck them all.

How much more politically incorrect can it get?

And that my friends is why it would sell sell sell.

Member #4698
06-16-21, 13:05
Here are a some relevant questions that the fascist corporate media (Comcast, AT&T, Disney, Facebook, Twitter) will never report on:

I paid $3.15 a gallon to fill my car with gas. Last year at this time, under President Trump, I paid $2.15. Why the price hike? Did Biden's assault on fossil fuel have anything to do with it?

Border authorities report close to 200,000 foreign nationals are crossing into the USA each month. So, why did President Biden dismantle Trump's "Stay in Mexico" policy that had almost stopped mass illegal immigration?

Inflation is growing at its fastest rate in 13 years. Why, exactly?

In the past five years approximately 3,000 African-Americans in Chicago have been murdered mostly by black criminals. Why? And why haven't the democrats who control Chicago done anything about it? Black lives only matter when some criminal asshole gets himself killed by cop for resisting arrest. Let's defund the Police.

EihTooms
06-16-21, 13:17
Democrat House majority tried to impeach Trump twice on phony Russian collusion that was proved fake news. The senate proved his innocence. Obviously you missed that part.The House didn't "try" to Impeach Trump, they Impeached Trump. Twice.

Three USA Presidents have been Impeached; Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump (twice). None of them were convicted by the Senate.

Does that mean Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton also were not Impeached? Of course, they were. And so was Trump. Twice.

Oh, also, among many, many other things, Obama's inauguration crowd was much bigger than Trump's, the 2020 election was won fair and square by Biden in a landslide just as Team Trump feared he would going back to at least 2017 and the mob of America-hating Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol Building on January 6, 2021 were Anti-American insurrectionists trying to overthrow American democracy, instigated by Trump based on one of his 30,000+ lies as the 1 term so-called potus, and not "patriotic tourists" taking in the sights in Washington D.C.

D Cups
06-16-21, 13:38
And you don't recognise irony. Something you post as sarcasm is seriously undercut when it turns out to be true.

BTW, have you ever entered "the lowest form of wit" into a search engine?Yes. What came up was Dublin 12.

PVMonger
06-16-21, 13:40
Democrat House majority tried to impeach Trump twice on phony Russian collusion that was proved fake news. The senate proved his innocence. Obviously you missed that part.You are completely ignorant about impeachment. But Republican fascists are ignorant about everything. After all, if they believe that Italian satellites changed 2020 election votes or that COVID vaccines alter DNA, they'll believe anything.

PVMonger
06-16-21, 14:01
Chris P, the entire future of the Democratic party is invested in "science". "Science" is when a guy who is clearly a pro-Democrat bureaucrat like Fauci commands 99.99% of the grant money and dictates to scientists what is legit and not. Fauci did not want to chase down infections in the wild as they happened. He wanted to create them in a lab and play around with them. If you thought that was dangerous or wrong, you were shunned and got no money.

I have a feeling the same thing is going on with climate change / global warming. If you do not do studies supporting climate change, you get no grant money.

Thing is that I read this great piece on global warming / climate change by a somewhat neutral observer, and it speaks volumes about how climate change is not science but politics.

https://freemansperspective.com/my-adventures-at-climate-change-central/

In 1999, my friend Henry Lamb mentioned that he had been attending UN meetings. I thought it sounded intriguing and asked for details. After all, reading about an organization is one thing; actually attending its meetings is another. And because I was so enthused, Henry offered to get me in to the Kyoto accord meetings in Bonn, Germany. (The official name was COP 5.)

When I arrived at the specified place and time, I found a magnificent hotel, surrounded by hundreds of soldiers and policemen. Everything was absolutely first class. To this day I don't think I've seen its equal in terms of high-end, well-run meetings. Everything was pristine; every need had been considered and addressed in advance.

The attendees, as you might suspect, were all well-dressed, and all appeared to be feeling special about attending such impressive, elite meetings. I, on the other hand, had a bit of a Groucho Marx moment: "I can't believe they let me into this place."

Once I started circulating, however, it became clear that "first class" extended no further than the physical layer. The presenters dressed well and tried to use impressive words; their PowerPoint slides were perfect, but the actual content was less than pedestrian.

I heard one speech where the speaker said that vast areas of her home country would be entirely underwater in ten years (which would have been 2009) and that every soul living there would be dead. As evidence, she referred to impressive names and organizations, who had "said so."

And that was the way the whole conference went. I kept thinking that there had to be someone there who was competent, that perhaps they were having the real meetings in some back room somewhere. If so, I never found them, and I had what appeared to be free run of the place.

As best I could tell, nearly every person at this event was someone making a living from global warming, or else some official's son, daughter, brother-in-law, or cousin. I found none that had any notable substance. They were flying first class, staying at magnificent hotels, eating in the finest restaurants, and, as I later learned, hiring the best prostitutes and snorting the best drugs. And they were doing it all on some government's tab..Unfortunately for you, you forgot the only true thing that trump ever tweeted: ""Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible."

So using trump's own metric, he is responsible for everything that happened during his one term in office. Unless, of course, you prefer to admit that he wasn't a leader. There are only two choices here. Either trump is responsible or he wasn't a leader.

Did 500,000+ people die of COVID when the orange fruitcake was president? Yes. Therefore trump is responsible.

Did Mexico fail to pay for 'the wall'? Yes. Therefore trump is responsible.

Did Republicans fail to cancel the ACA? Yes. Therefore trump is responsible.

Did rioters storm the capitol on January 6th? Yes. Therefore trump is responsible.

See how that works?

Canada
06-16-21, 14:06
The House didn't "try" to Impeach Trump, they Impeached Trump. Twice.

Three USA Presidents have been Impeached; Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump (twice). None of them were convicted by the Senate.

Does that mean Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton also were not Impeached? Of course, they were. And so was Trump. Twice.

Oh, also, among many, many other things, Obama's inauguration crowd was much bigger than Trump's, the 2020 election was won fair and square by Biden in a landslide just as Team Trump feared he would going back to at least 2017 and the mob of America-hating Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol Building on January 6, 2021 were Anti-American insurrectionists trying to overthrow American democracy, instigated by Trump based on one of his 30,000+ lies as the 1 term so-called potus, and not "patriotic tourists" taking in the sights in Washington D.C.Trump is gone. Why are you so fixated on him? Why do you lie about him? Was he that great of a president that you have to continue to lie about him to distract people from seeing how bad Biden is? You should be worried about the current president which has done more harm to Americans than even Obama did. Do you think if you keep lying about Trump No one will notice Biden incompetence? Biden reversing Trump policies created this:

Reversing Trump policy at the border created the current crises at the border that Biden, Harris and you socialists ignore.

Cancelling drilling permits for oil, cancelling pipelines and stopping logging has gas prices and lumber prices skyrocketing. You don't think high gas prices hurt the lower income?

Cancel culture.

Biden support of terrorists BLM and Antifa.

Record inflation.

Defund police and Highest crime rates in decades.

If Trump had done this they would have tried to impeach him 100 times.

Why do you condone a weak USA? Why do you want America to fail?

GDreams
06-16-21, 14:24
"No proof just conjecture" - even Jon Stewart just called out your utter horseshit. Trying to make people believe it just happened to occur naturally right next to the only virology lab in China. Scientists saying it has properties which do not occur naturally. Oh, and they still haven't produced the original animal that it supposedly came from. Please. That's as idiotic as trying to convince people that a man who cuts his dick off is just as much of a woman as Blake Lively. Oh wait, you do that too.

And no, moron, the data shows that people in schools are no more likely to get the disease there than anywhere else. By contrast, what is quite clear are the massive problems closing schools causes to children during their most important formative years. Their intellectual, social and physical development is being stunted for life; they are suffering from a huge increase in mental health issues and abuse. But of course you selfish leftwing don't give a damn about any of that, as long as teacher union members can sit around at home feeding their cats and draining the taxpayer.An article that basically refutes your conjecture: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-tried-hard-prove-062047744.html.

No evidence of being made made and only circumstantial evidence of it coming from the lab. Who says this, the Trump administration investigations.

Canada
06-16-21, 15:36
The polls are showing a 53% approval rating for Biden, and he has never been below 52%. Why do the majority of Americans not "reailse" they are being hurt? Since Jan 20th, CV cases are down 93% and deaths, by 92%. Yup! No doubt about it. Biden really is hurting Americans. Especially Funeral Homes.I agree his polls are good because no democrats are going to condemn him for the terrible job he has done in his first 5 months. Also he gets all the criminals who fully support his policies. Also he gets the illegals that fully support his policies. And the real reason is he is still giving money away. He is giving taxpayer money away to keep his popularity. I bet if you gave everyone on this forum money at least 53% of us would still like you.

Buying popularity only lasts so long before people wake up.

Dublin12
06-16-21, 16:21
I agree his polls are good because no democrats are going to condemn him for the terrible job he has done in his first 5 months. Also he gets all the criminals who fully support his policies. Also he gets the illegals that fully support his policies. And the real reason is he is still giving money away. He is giving taxpayer money away to keep his popularity. I bet if you gave everyone on this forum money at least 53% of us would still like you.

Buying popularity only lasts so long before people wake up.Just in case you need the title explained, the Bizarros were characters from Superman Comics who took view that what everyone else thought was good, they thought the opposite. So for example, a diamond which is pure carbon was ugly, whereas a lump of coal which is also carbon, was considered beautiful.

So you think that the 53% who approve are all Dems? That's interesting because Biden got a 52/48 share of the vote over Trump. Does that not suggest that that the election result was correct?

Seriously though. Do you really think a 93% reduction in CV infections and a 92% reduction in CV deaths is a "terrible job". How does that compare with Canada for example. In case you need to know, Canada cases are down 80% and deaths are down 91%. Maybe we should take a look at Wall St, where the stock market is up 18% since the election? Trump averaged 12% a year and managed 7. 3% by June 16th 2017.

There is something Marxist about your opinions. I refer to Chico and not Karl. You remind me of the scene from a day at the races where Groucho tells Chico, "This is the best horse on the track" to which Chico replies, "Yeah but that's only because he keeps winning". Groucho replied along the lines of, "Winning is all I want".

Beno69
06-16-21, 16:34
I agree his polls are good because no democrats are going to condemn him for the terrible job he has done in his first 5 months. Also he gets all the criminals who fully support his policies. Also he gets the illegals that fully support his policies. And the real reason is he is still giving money away. He is giving taxpayer money away to keep his popularity. I bet if you gave everyone on this forum money at least 53% of us would still like you.

Buying popularity only lasts so long before people wake up.Did you inject too much bleach against Covid19 and it destroyed your brain?

Canada
06-16-21, 16:39
Did you inject too much bleach against Covid19 and it destroyed your brain?Sorry. Just stating the facts. Which part can't you accept?

Do you really think democrats will condemn Biden for his train wreck?

Do you really think criminals liked Trump better than Biden policies?

Do you really think giving money away doesn't help Biden popularity?

Do you really think illegals liked Trump policies more than Biden's?

Please explain.

Dublin12
06-16-21, 16:41
If you could read.

You would know your question has been answered repeatedly.I've just realised that Canada is an alter ego for Hannity. What gave it away? He keeps asking questions to which he knows the answer, but though the answer is not what he wants, he keeps hoping someone will give him a favourable reply.

Canada
06-16-21, 16:54
Just in case you need the title explained, the Bizarros were characters from Superman Comics who took view that what everyone else thought was good, they thought the opposite. So for example, a diamond which is pure carbon was ugly, whereas a lump of coal which is also carbon, was considered beautiful.

So you think that the 53% who approve are all Dems? That's interesting because Biden got a 52/48 share of the vote over Trump. Does that not suggest that that the election result was correct?

Seriously though. Do you really think a 93% reduction in CV infections and a 92% reduction in CV deaths is a "terrible job". How does that compare with Canada for example. In case you need to know, Canada cases are down 80% and deaths are down 91%. Maybe we should take a look at Wall St, where the stock market is up 18% since the election? Trump averaged 12% a year and managed 7. 3% by June 16th 2017.

There is something Marxist about your opinions. I refer to Chico and not Karl. You remind me of the scene from a day at the races where Groucho tells Chico, "This is the best horse on the track" to which Chico replies, "Yeah but that's only because he keeps winning". Groucho replied along the lines of, "Winning is all I want".The 93% reduction in CV was because Trump fast tracked 3 vaccines and eliminated regulations to get them out to the public quickly. Biden inherited proven vaccines and just had to deliver them. FedEx did more for CV than Biden.

Canada numbers are worse because Trudeau would not accept Trump approved vaccines because he said Trump fast tracked them and they were not safe. Trudeau waited until mid February after millions of Americans were vaccinated. Trudeau is just a dumb socialist also.

Wall Street is doing good because Trump economy is coming back. Biden has only been able to hurt the oil business and logging business with his executive orders. He needs congress approval to raise taxes and put more regulations on business. Fortunately there are a few democrats that are hindering his killing the economy. If Biden does nothing which he has done so far the economy comes roaring back to Trump era. If Biden's policies get voted in the economy gets hurt and inflation skyrockets.

Listen to the experts on CNBC.

I agree with you on the 52% of the votes that Biden got to win the election. He did get the votes from the democrats, the criminals and the illegals. That is why he won.

Listen to the experts. The market is doing good because of policies Trump put in. Reduced taxes and reduced regulations are why the market is up. Biden has done nothing to help stock market. If Biden reverses Trump policies like he says he is going to do then the market suffers. Fortunately in the senate there are a couple smart democrats who understand this.

I feel sorry for you that you don't understand.

Canada
06-16-21, 17:21
I've just realised that Canada is an alter ego for Hannity. What gave it away? He keeps asking questions to which he knows the answer, but though the answer is not what he wants, he keeps hoping someone will give him a favourable reply.I just realized that you are exactly like Harris. Give her the facts on the border she just ignores the facts and makes it into a joke and laughs it off. Never answers the questions. You much watch Hannity all the time since you know so much about him. I am glad you are supporting Fox News like the majority of the people in USA.

Dublin12
06-16-21, 18:03
I just realized that you are exactly like Harris. Give her the facts on the border she just ignores the facts and makes it into a joke and laughs it off. Never answers the questions. You much watch Hannity all the time since you know so much about him. I am glad you are supporting Fox News like the majority of the people in USA.My intro describes the ever declining quality of your posts.

FYI, I never watch Fox News. My expertise on Hanitty is based on his clips being shown on other channels exposing the vacuity of the man.

As for the majority of people in the US watching, never let the facts get in the way of a poor lie. His average audience is 3 mill, is less than 1% of the US population.

I am beginning to feel very guilty responding to your posts. I wouldn't approve on anyone else beating up on a retard, so I need to stop.

D Cups
06-16-21, 18:11
I am beginning to feel very guilty responding to your posts. , so I need to stop.That's the best idea you ever came up with! Did you arrive at this conclusion all by yourself?

Dublin12
06-16-21, 18:14
The 93% reduction in CV was because Trump fast tracked 3 vaccines and eliminated regulations to get them out to the public quickly. Biden inherited proven vaccines and just had to deliver them. FedEx did more for CV than Biden.

Canada numbers are worse because Trudeau would not accept Trump approved vaccines because he said Trump fast tracked them and they were not safe. Trudeau waited until mid February after millions of Americans were vaccinated. Trudeau is just a dumb socialist also.

Wall Street is doing good because Trump economy is coming back. Biden has only been able to hurt the oil business and logging business with his executive orders. He needs congress approval to raise taxes and put more regulations on business. Fortunately there are a few democrats that are hindering his killing the economy. If Biden does nothing which he has done so far the economy comes roaring back to Trump era. If Biden's policies get voted in the economy gets hurt and inflation skyrockets.

Listen to the experts on CNBC.

I agree with you on the 52% of the votes that Biden got to win the election. He did get the votes from the democrats, the criminals and the illegals. That is why he won.

Listen to the experts. The market is doing good because of policies Trump put in. Reduced taxes and reduced regulations are why the market is up. Biden has done nothing to help stock market. If Biden reverses Trump policies like he says he is going to do then the market suffers. Fortunately in the senate there are a couple smart democrats who understand this.

I feel sorry for you that you don't understand.The only thing that Trump fast tracked was Bleach. Trump couldn't organise a fuck-up in a brothel full of blind nymphomaniacs. You can bet that a large slice of the 600 k dead, died because they listened to Trump.

And if it's you want to talk about inherited economies, Trump got his from Obama, who inherited the worst economy since 1932.

You are definitely far too dumb to waste my time arguing with.

Canada
06-16-21, 18:36
The only thing that Trump fast tracked was Bleach. Trump couldn't organise a fuck-up in a brothel full of blind nymphomaniacs. You can bet that a large slice of the 600 k dead, died because they listened to Trump.

And if it's you want to talk about inherited economies, Trump got his from Obama, who inherited the worst economy since 1932.

You are definitely far too dumb to waste my time arguing with.With thinking like that you will always be a loser. Biden would have done what Trudeau did. Nothing and wait for all the testing to be done killing millions not 600,000. Being anti American, anti business you will continue to hate America and free enterprise. Jealousy and hate are the democratic way now.

Canada
06-16-21, 18:38
My intro describes the ever declining quality of your posts.

FYI, I never watch Fox News. My expertise on Hanitty is based on his clips being shown on other channels exposing the vacuity of the man.

As for the majority of people in the US watching, never let the facts get in the way of a poor lie. His average audience is 3 mill, is less than 1% of the US population.

I am beginning to feel very guilty responding to your posts. I wouldn't approve on anyone else beating up on a retard, so I need to stop.And that is why he is the most watched news in USA this month with the highest ratings. Typical racist democrat demonizing the retarded. Why are you racist and why do you hate USA?

John Clayton
06-16-21, 18:56
...Typical racist democrat demonizing the retarded. Why are you racist and why do you hate USA?There have been numerous studies about the mechanism behind rage / anger addiction. However, it is fundamentally a symptom aspect of ego fragility and injury, particular to a narcissistic personality (think Trump). The dopamine rush of anger is triggered by underlying feelings of weakness or insecurity. It temporarily allows the fragile ego a way to feel powerful and overcome the feelings of weakness or impotency. Internet trolling is essentially a form of autostimulation.

Xpartan
06-16-21, 18:57
https://twitter.com/i/status/1404665481886195717

"I think we owe a great debt of gratitude to science. Science has, in many ways, helped ease the suffering of this pandemic, which was more than likely caused by science," Stewart said after Colbert asked how he was feeling about the scientific response to COVID-19.

"Do you mean perhaps there's a chance that this was created in a lab?" asked Colbert, adding "There's an investigation."I adore Jon Stewart. I absolutely do, and it saddens me when trumpists use him to advance their brainless and wicked talking points.

But Stewart is not a scientist. He's not a virologist. He's a brilliant comedian, but that's the full extent of his qualifications.

Investigating coronovirus origins is like investigating the chicken and the egg. Stewart made a point to note that because there is a coronovirus lab in Wuhan, the virus most likely escaped from there.

However, unlike Jon Stewart, scientists know why there's been a lab in Wuhan in the first place. Because certain regions of China have conditions (the proximity of wildlife to farming lands) that are perfect for brewing novel coronoviruses. There are several coronovirus labs in China, and Wuhan Institute of Virology is merely one of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uutDz8kPK9c

Is it possible that the virus escaped from the lab? Yes, and this is what's being investigated right now. But that's not why trumpists are salivating. What they really want is to build the foundation for their yet another insane crackpot theory -- that the virus had been engineered and sent into the world to topple the Orange Menace. That's what it is all about, really. Not science or comedy.

PVMonger
06-16-21, 19:06
Trump is gone. Why are you so fixated on him? Why do you lie about him? Was he that great of a president that you have to continue to lie about him to distract people from seeing how bad Biden is? You should be worried about the current president which has done more harm to Americans than even Obama did. Do you think if you keep lying about Trump No one will notice Biden incompetence? Biden reversing Trump policies created this:

Reversing Trump policy at the border created the current crises at the border that Biden, Harris and you socialists ignore.

Cancelling drilling permits for oil, cancelling pipelines and stopping logging has gas prices and lumber prices skyrocketing. You don't think high gas prices hurt the lower income?

Cancel culture.

Biden support of terrorists BLM and Antifa.Trump: "Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible."

500 K+ Americans died of COVID on trump's watch. Using trump's own metric (above) he is responsible.

The ACA is still in place. Trump failed to overturn it, therefore, by his own metric, he is responsible.

Trump failed to build "the wall". By his own metric he is responsible.

Thousands of trump supporters rioted at the Capitol on January 6th. By his own metric, he is responsible.

Did trump stop any BLM protests this past summer? Nope. So he is responsible.

Why are fascists and republikkkans so obtuse.

PVMonger
06-16-21, 19:08
I adore Jon Stewart. I absolutely do, and it saddens me when trumpists use him to advance their brainless and wicked talking points.

But Stewart is not a scientist. He's not a virologist. He's a brilliant comedian, but that's the full extent of his qualifications.

Investigating coronovirus origins is like investigating the chicken and the egg. Stewart made a point to note that because there is a coronovirus lab in Wuhan, the virus most likely escaped from there.

However, unlike Jon Stewart, scientists know why there's been a lab in Wuhan in the first place. Because certain regions of China have conditions (the proximity of wildlife to farming lands) that are perfect for brewing novel coronoviruses. There are several coronovirus labs in China, and Wuhan Institute of Virology is merely one of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uutDz8kPK9c

Is it possible that the virus escaped from the lab? Yes, and this is what's being investigated right now. But that's not why trumpists are salivating. What they really want is to build the foundation for their yet another insane crackpot theory -- that the virus had been engineered and sent into the world to topple the Orange Menace. That's what it is all about, really. Not science or comedy.Absolutely. Trump supporters will believe just about anything.

PVMonger
06-16-21, 19:17
And that is why he is the most watched news in USA this month with the highest ratings. Typical racist democrat demonizing the retarded. Why are you racist and why do you hate USA?Just because millions of idiots watch Fux news just means that there millions of morons who watch Fux news. That's just like the 74+ million morons that voted for the orange fruitcake. So what. He still lost. He, and you, might bloviate about how he got more votes than Obama. But so what? 7 million more voted for Biden.

Nobody has ever demonized you, regardless of your ridiculous arguments and your refusal to come in from the rain.

PVMonger
06-16-21, 19:19
With thinking like that you will always be a loser. Biden would have done what Trudeau did. Nothing and wait for all the testing to be done killing millions not 600,000. Being anti American, anti business you will continue to hate America and free enterprise. Jealousy and hate are the democratic way now.And I'll bet you have a source for that, right? Sure you do.