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Cali Guy
08-27-21, 02:47
Unless you are a Native American, then you are an immigrant. You don't want any more of you here because you've got yours.

As to your ludicrous assertion that the US had no immigration during the middle of the 20th century, google how many Hungarians came to the US between 1956 and 1960. Google how many Cubans entered the US between 1959 and 1965.Amazing. 13 military killed and several wounded. Hundreds of Afghanistan citizens injured by Biden screwup and not a mention of it. The left just wants to ignore Biden failures and talk about Trump. Trump is looking pretty good to the world today in comparison to Biden. Thousands of Americans and American allies will be tortured and killed after August 31. If anyone watched Biden pathetic speech this afternoon after he hid all day they would see a weak tired president without a clue or a plan. He can't get the people out now but he will after the military leaves because he thinks he can bargain with terrorists. Britain has washed their hands with the Biden administration for the future until Biden is gone. What a disgrace and the clueless on here just want to talk about Jan 6 and Covid and immigrants. Our city has 36 students and parents stranded in Afghanistan that will probably lose their lives.

It is no secret. Ignoring the Biden failures will not make them go away.

Cali Guy
08-27-21, 03:24
Retired USA Army Colonel Douglas Macgregor took aim at President Biden's handling of the draw down from Afghanistan, comparing it to the infamous Benghazi incident that resulted in the deaths of multiple Americans.

"You're seeing the lapses in security, the absence of realistic planning, bad leadership from the top, a failure to outline specifically what the goal was, which I think very clearly was to get all the American citizens and allied citizens out, before we withdrew any military power," Macgregor said.

"All of this looks a lot like Benghazi on steroids," he added.

The 2012 Benghazi attack resulted in the death US Ambassador Christopher Stevens, Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith, and CIA security contractors Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

Smoothy
08-27-21, 12:41
Thanks Joe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GX0yGdMNUA

Cali Guy
08-27-21, 20:44
Thanks Joe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GX0yGdMNUAGreat post. That video pretty much sums it up. Pretty self explanatory.

EihTooms
08-27-21, 22:18
Amazing. 13 military killed and several wounded. Hundreds of Afghanistan citizens injured by Biden screwup and not a mention of it. The left just wants to ignore Biden failures and talk about Trump. Trump is looking pretty good to the world today in comparison to Biden. Thousands of Americans and American allies will be tortured and killed after August 31. If anyone watched Biden pathetic speech this afternoon after he hid all day they would see a weak tired president without a clue or a plan. He can't get the people out now but he will after the military leaves because he thinks he can bargain with terrorists. Britain has washed their hands with the Biden administration for the future until Biden is gone. What a disgrace and the clueless on here just want to talk about Jan 6 and Covid and immigrants. Our city has 36 students and parents stranded in Afghanistan that will probably lose their lives.

It is no secret. Ignoring the Biden failures will not make them go away.That's because this USA withdrawal and evacuation from Bush2's 20 year long doomed and predictably failed War in Afghanistan is the best run, most competently managed and most successful withdrawal and evacuation by the Losing Side of a war in history.

Name a better one.

By stark contrast, Ford's 1975 handling of the withdrawal from the only other wrongheaded war America lost, Eisenhower's Vietnam War, was a true horrific shit show.

The typically pro Repub Mainstream Media's over-the-top ridiculous criticism of Biden's withdrawal has all the earmarks of its usual phony "Bothsiderism", meant to elevate Repubs and denigrate Dems. As if ANYTHING about this amazngly well handled withdrawal is comparable to or reminiscent of that Repub Ford's 1975 total catastrophe in Vietnam.

EihTooms
08-27-21, 22:31
Thanks Joe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GX0yGdMNUAYet, even today Biden's Approval Ratings are better than Trump's, better than DeSantis' in his own state of Florida and better than those of the Repubs in Congress.

Interesting.

Maybe most Americans would accurately recognize that video clip as a deceptively edited piece of hogwash. Biden is the one "Saving America" from the colossal idiocy and historic failures of the previous 4 years.

EihTooms
08-27-21, 22:43
All 18 USA Intel Agencies just came to the same conclusion on this that Fauci held all along:

USA Intel agencies split on Covid origins, offer no high-confidence conclusions.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/27/covid-origin-report-us-intelligence-agencies-are-divided.html?__source=androidappshare

"All agencies assess that two hypotheses are plausible: natural exposure to an infected animal and a laboratory-associated incident, the nations 18 intelligence agencies wrote in the unclassified report.

The report, compiled by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, found that the virus was not developed as a biological weapon.Of course, Traitor Trump, his 74,000,000 cult followers and his slavishly devoted fellow Repub Traitors in Congress will defer to whatever the Russian intel agencies or rather, Putin personally, has to say about it over all 18 of the USA Intel Agencies.

Golfinho
08-27-21, 23:03
That's because this USA withdrawal and evacuation from Bush2's 20 year long Afghanistan is the best run, most competently managed and most successful withdrawal and evacuation by the Losing Side of a war in history.

Name a better one.
this amazngly well handled withdrawal is comparable to or reminiscent of that Repub Ford's 1975 total catastrophe in Vietnam.These so-called Wars on Terror were begun with the near unanimous support of all political sides, in case you've forgotten or are oblivious. Credit to Biden for simply trying to follow through with Trump's determined initiative to end this forever war. Unfortunately, telling your enemy what date you're going to be gone is not exactly the best strategy. Especially when you neglect to tell your own people, leaving them stranded when you disappear in the middle of the night. Better to have the media say nothing, and just do a quiet prisoner exchange later on. And if any American brides choose to stay with their new Taliban husbands, well that's their decision, isn't it?

Smoothy
08-28-21, 02:07
It's official. The US government is the number one enemy of America. Heartbreaking treason. Fact check this fellow enemies of America.

Watchdog: 75,000 USA Vehicles, 600,000 weapons, 208 planes left in Afghanistan.

https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/us-leaving-behind-75000-vehicles-600000-weapons-and-208-planes-afghanistan?fbclid=IwAR2npRC3bqmEKVYG1KypR3jqMWGRCGvWabCYhdLd5qmjzo75sJq5FcA1Aq4

The USA Military is leaving behind 75,000 vehicles, 600,000 weapons and 208 airplanes / helicopters in Afghanistan as the Taliban takes control of the country, according to the watchdog group Open the Books.

"We've made the Taliban into a major USA Arms dealer for the next decade," said Adam Andrzejewski, CEO & founder of Open the Books. "They now control 75,000 military vehicles. This is about 50,000 tactical vehicles, 20,000 Humvees they control about 1,000 mine-resistant vehicles, and even about 150 armored personnel carriers."

In total, the USA Government spent an estimated $83 billion of taxpayer funds on weapons, vehicles and airplanes for the Afghan military.

The Biden administration said recently that a "fair amount" of weaponry would land in the hands of the Taliban but it didn't have an exact number.

Andrzejewski said his organization "found a Federal Audit that detailed up to $200 million worth of drones that had disappeared," adding that "we don't know where 600,000 weapons are within the country."

The Taliban also reportedly has access to biometrics data of Afghans that helped USA Forces during the war.

Cali Guy
08-28-21, 03:28
These so-called Wars on Terror were begun with the near unanimous support of all political sides, in case you've forgotten or are oblivious. Credit to Biden for simply trying to follow through with Trump's determined initiative to end this forever war. Unfortunately, telling your enemy what date you're going to be gone is not exactly the best strategy. Especially when you neglect to tell your own people, leaving them stranded when you disappear in the middle of the night. Better to have the media say nothing, and just do a quiet prisoner exchange later on. And if any American brides choose to stay with their new Taliban husbands, well that's their decision, isn't it?There is only one president Biden who is in charge. There were no attacks during Trump presidency and there were no attacks from Jan 20 to August. Only a fool would close the military base and send back almost all the groups before he got the citizens out. And a fool he is. He had 8 months to get the people out and waited until last month. He was still allowing Americans to go into Afghanistan in July and August when he should have already had everyone out but the military. Only a fool would blame a past administration and obviously you are. Even the democrats are saying this is a Biden disaster and will hurt all of them.

EihTooms
08-28-21, 03:28
These so-called Wars on Terror were begun with the near unanimous support of all political sides, in case you've forgotten or are oblivious. Credit to Biden for simply trying to follow through with Trump's determined initiative to end this forever war. Unfortunately, telling your enemy what date you're going to be gone is not exactly the best strategy. Especially when you neglect to tell your own people, leaving them stranded when you disappear in the middle of the night. Better to have the media say nothing, and just do a quiet prisoner exchange later on. And if any American brides choose to stay with their new Taliban husbands, well that's their decision, isn't it?Before the president of Afghanistan looted the coffers and fled and the warlords and other Afghanistan military leadership took bribes to lower their arms, abandon their stations and hand over the country to the Taliban without resistance, the "government" of Afghanistan requested that the USA NOT withdraw Americans and our allies secretly or on the sly before an agreed upon date.

First of all, no such "secret" would be kept for more than 2 minutes before a pro Taliban neighbor or airport personnel ratted out the mysterious disappearance and loading up of hundreds of these people on planes bound for Bermuda.

Second, the request was made on the premise that, when ratted out, the Afghan people would have been demoralized with a growing and likely larger parade of panicked refugees storming the airports and totally crippling them along with a better organized opposition to engage in all manner of violent conflict.

Start earlier and go slower? That is about the only alternative the Biden critics can come up with. What they are missing is such an approach would not happen in a vacuum. The chaos side would have longer to better plan THEIR tactics along the way as well. We don't get to do our thing earlier and slower while the opposition and chaos side stands by politely waiting for us to finish.

So far only 1 of the probable 5000 terrorists Trump got released from prison over the objections of the then Afghanistan government managed to strap on a suicide bomb vest and join 72 Virgins in an act of terrorism and chaos that no planning or policy can prevent. Going slower and taking longer would only have given the other 4999 of them more time and more certain established targets to plot against.

No doubt they are still plotting and might very well make their way to the first inspection point at any moment.

Again, so far, that one took out only about 10% of the average annual American deaths for that war from the start. Still a tragic loss. But 10% of the average annual death casualties is much better than what it could have been.

But no matter how fast they scramble to draw straws to decide which one is the lucky winner of the 72 Virgins Paradise they will be arriving at the airports long after 110,000+ allies and the great majority of Americans who WANT to leave have been safely withdrawn and evacuated from the country.

Yes. Thanks, Joe.

GDreams
08-28-21, 07:50
Retired USA Army Colonel Douglas Macgregor took aim at President Biden's handling of the draw down from Afghanistan, comparing it to the infamous Benghazi incident that resulted in the deaths of multiple Americans.

"You're seeing the lapses in security, the absence of realistic planning, bad leadership from the top, a failure to outline specifically what the goal was, which I think very clearly was to get all the American citizens and allied citizens out, before we withdrew any military power," Macgregor said.

"All of this looks a lot like Benghazi on steroids," he added.

The 2012 Benghazi attack resulted in the death US Ambassador Christopher Stevens, Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith, and CIA security contractors Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.13 soldiers were killed in active duty in a war zone and 4 people are killed for taking unnecessary risks in a high risk area and these are crimes of the century. Yet pretty much every week mass shootings occur which regularly exceed these totals, most of which are entirely preventable except for the wingnuts who resist any restrictions on gun ownership. How about addressing the one that really impacts Americans.

EihTooms
08-28-21, 07:56
These so-called Wars on Terror were begun with the near unanimous support of all political sides, in case you've forgotten or are oblivious.
...I think you are conflating the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force in response to the 9/11 attack, which, rightly, did get near unanimous support of all political sides, with The Bush Doctrine, which did not become established until 2002 after we had boots on the ground and was not voted on by anyone.

Bush was going to invade Afghanistan without a Congressional vote on the matter. I doubt it even occurred to him that one might be useful. Which, BTW, he had every right and power to do in the face of credible intel of actionable planning or the imminent threat of a domestic attack. In such a case, the Commander-in-Chief does not have to wait until Congress is called in to convene, debate and vote on the matter. He can just mobilize the military or bombers and go. And in the wake of 9/11 there was definitely the possibility of such credible intel coming in at any hour of the day or night.

In fact, Biden was one of the Senators who convinced Bush to hold off for a Congressional vote on whether or not to use military force. That isn't because Biden, Kerry, Clinton or anyone else who voted Yes on that Authorization thought Bush couldn't or wouldn't go through with it without their vote. All the Dems and Repubs who voted Yes knew he would. Biden wanted the vote because, without it, he knew Bush had zero chance of showing enough "unity" among the American people and their representatives for the purpose and the mission to convince other nations to form a meaningful coalition with us to accomplish it, should we need them.

See, without a Congressional vote on the matter, other countries know one numbskull Commander-in-Chief's brainstorm to do this or that could at any time be defunded by Congress, who never committed to it in any way, the minute those other nations put THEIR boots on the ground, constituents' lives and reputations at stake. The Congressional vote was the only assurance to other countries that we were all in on it. That is what most of those members of Congress were voting for. Not "for the war", but for an acknowledgement to the world that we were unified in supporting our Commander-in-Chief to take action against a clear and present threat.

Therefore, even though fate had dictated that this was another one of those unfortunate times when a minority of the American electorate on the strength of the rigged Electoral College system in cahoots with 5 winger Repub-appointed Supreme Court Justices had gotten tired of the Peace and Prosperity the Clinton Administration had produced by the end of the 1990's and were hungry to have all hell break loose in one colossal fuck up after another by placing the Repub George W. Bush in the White House, he was the only Commander-in-Chief we had at the time. Maybe he wouldn't totally fuck it up like Repubs generally do with everything they touch. It was a gamble we essentially had no choice but to take right after 9/11 even though he had practically given al-Qaeda an engraved invitation to commit that attack.

Voting Yes on that Authorization was the right thing to do because NOT showing the world we were "unified" on the mission was ensuring it would fail. And it DID lead to the accomplishment of the mission to bring those responsible for 9/11 to justice and death. Yes, imo, Obama would have been wrong to vote No on that Authorization had he been a USA Senator at the time.

Now, The Bush Doctrine was something else entirely. That was the way numbskull Bush decided to prosecute the war starting in 2002. And it was not up for a vote. It was the idea of him, his administration and generals that, as long as they had boots on the ground and classic Mission Creep was taking over, a major element of their new mission ought to be to turn places like Afghanistan into "free and open societies." In other words, Nation Building.

Chris P
08-28-21, 11:18
Yet, even today Biden's Approval Ratings are better than Trump's, better than DeSantis' in his own state of Florida and better than those of the Repubs in Congress.
In polls conducted by the same Washington swamp firms that told us Biden would win Florida by 12 points so hey Trump voters, no point wasting your time showing up to vote.

(None of the democrat "voters" showed up to vote of course; their "votes" were already "collected" via "mail-in voting", if you know what I mean.

Smoothy
08-28-21, 12:22
There's a reason Biden usually has a driver.

PVMonger
08-28-21, 15:58
These so-called Wars on Terror were begun with the near unanimous support of all political sides, in case you've forgotten or are oblivious. Credit to Biden for simply trying to follow through with Trump's determined initiative to end this forever war. Unfortunately, telling your enemy what date you're going to be gone is not exactly the best strategy. Especially when you neglect to tell your own people, leaving them stranded when you disappear in the middle of the night. Better to have the media say nothing, and just do a quiet prisoner exchange later on. And if any American brides choose to stay with their new Taliban husbands, well that's their decision, isn't it?Guess where the following comes from: "The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will execute the following:

1) The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will complete withdrawal of all remaining.

Forces from Afghanistan within the remaining nine and a half (9. 5) months.

2) The United States, its allies, and the Coalition will withdraw all their forces from.

Remaining bases."

In case you didn't know, this comes from the text of the "surrender document" signed by the dump administration in Doha. So much for you trying to rewrite history: "Unfortunately, telling your enemy what date you're going to be gone is not exactly the best strategy."

BTW, was there anything in the aforementioned agreement about the Taliban holding in place until we withdrew? No there wasn't. Even Neville Chamberlain did better. https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf.

Smoothy
08-28-21, 23:16
This is such a heart warming video of Joe and his son Hunter.

https://streamable.com/pyb5qh

EihTooms
08-29-21, 04:35
In polls conducted by the same Washington swamp firms that told us Biden would win Florida by 12 points so hey Trump voters, no point wasting your time showing up to vote.

(None of the democrat "voters" showed up to vote of course; their "votes" were already "collected" via "mail-in voting", if you know what I mean.I don't know which individual poll you are citing that showed that advantage for Biden in Florida a few days before election day but the consensus of major polls, the right way to assess poll numbers, had the outcome for Biden vs Trump right well within the usual Margin of Error cited by them in the polls.

As usual, the consensus of major polls a few days before election day was remarkably accurate to within a normal +/-MoE from the final outcome.

Take a look at RealClearPolitics' final consensus of their polls before election day 2020 showing which candidate would probably win which state and they were practically dead on right across the board. Exchange their prediction for Florida and Georgia, both extremely close, and the consensus for that map would have been 100% accurate to the final outcome.

I am talking about the consensus of major polls now too.

EihTooms
08-29-21, 04:40
There's a reason Biden usually has a driver.LOL. More cartoons?

EihTooms
08-29-21, 05:01
This is such a heart warming video of Joe and his son Hunter.

https://streamable.com/pyb5qhomg, cartoons AND weirdly and deceptively edited videos now? Lol.

Seriously, if Repub so-called potus' would only on occasion produce something better than sub par economic results at best with a high likelihood of another Great Repub Crash, Depression/Recession and Massive Job Destruction thrown in the mix along with the absolute worst foreign policy and national security results of all time, maybe they would outright win a few elections with most of the American electorate supporting them without relying only on where the system is already rigged in their favor, passing laws to rig it in their favor even more, pulling one "October Surprise" after another out of their ass, colluding with our foreign adversaries, ordering their loony base to "vote TWICE!", all the other proven significant election fraud maneuvers made only by them, the extreme gerrymandering, the cartoons, the faked videos and on and on and on.

They really ought to try winning elections that way for a change sometimes. Even ONE time to produce positive overall results merely equal to that of the Dem before or after them would be a huge improvement.

ScatManDoo
08-29-21, 06:46
"As of mid-August: Texas, with 63.6 percent as many people as California, had 80% as many cases since the pandemic began. That's a 17% differential in California's favor. The contrast with Florida is as dramatic: The Sunshine state, with 53% as many people, had 70% as many cases, also a 17% differential.

Those numbers translate to human lives. California has had 1,637 Covid deaths for every 100,000 residents, Texas 1,881 and Florida 1,890.

Of the three, then, California has been by far the healthiest place to live over the last 18 months and Florida the least.

So why does Newsom face a recall while Abbott and DeSantis sit pretty despite their states' dismal numbers? Florida and Texas do not allow recalls of state officials. "

https://www.desertsun.com/story/opinion/columnists/2021/08/23/new-covid-19-numbers-show-california-beats-florida-texas-lot/8242052002/

Golfinho
08-30-21, 01:58
Now, The Bush Doctrine was something else entirely. That was the way numbskull Bush decided to prosecute the war starting in 2002. It was the idea of him, his administration and generals that, as long as they had boots on the ground and classic Mission Creep was taking over, a major element of their new mission ought to be to turn places like Afghanistan into "free and open societies." In other words, Nation Building.Numbskulls don't come up with ideas -- much less doctrines -- all by themselves.

Nation Building? In other words, Project For a New American Century, thank you very much zionist neocons. Many fortunes were made off this war as taxpayer monies were channeled to defense contractors and the military industrial complex.

EihTooms
08-30-21, 04:03
"As of mid-August: Texas, with 63.6 percent as many people as California, had 80% as many cases since the pandemic began. That's a 17% differential in California's favor. The contrast with Florida is as dramatic: The Sunshine state, with 53% as many people, had 70% as many cases, also a 17% differential.

Those numbers translate to human lives. California has had 1,637 Covid deaths for every 100,000 residents, Texas 1,881 and Florida 1,890.

Of the three, then, California has been by far the healthiest place to live over the last 18 months and Florida the least.

So why does Newsom face a recall while Abbott and DeSantis sit pretty despite their states' dismal numbers? Florida and Texas do not allow recalls of state officials. "

https://www.desertsun.com/story/opinion/columnists/2021/08/23/new-covid-19-numbers-show-california-beats-florida-texas-lot/8242052002/Newsom is in trouble because over the decades cry-baby sore loser Repubs have developed an effective Recall Machine in California to find those few thousand signatures required to exploit the already extremely easy method of thwarting the democratic will of the people in that state where a candidate could have won the real election handily, then gotten another 49.99% plurality of the vote in a weird, off election schedule period Recall "election"...then can be replaced by some American democracy-hating winger loon who might only have gotten, say, 15% of the vote in that Recall "election" depending on how many dozens of other loons are on that ballot at the time.

Some of these built-in rigged loopholes were originally set up on a kind of All American "honor system" back when it was considered outlandish, "derangement" kind of thinking to suggest there would ever be a time when an Anti American democracy political party would emerge to act out their every America-hating wish by exploiting these systems to the fullest and beyond only to produce one colossal fuck up result after another for the state and country.

Enter the Republican Party, particularly sInce about 1968.

Smoothy
08-30-21, 18:21
Biden has a plan.

Smoothy
08-30-21, 20:47
LOL. More cartoons?I do agree it's a sad joke. When you have a puppet President, cartoons are appropriate.

PVMonger
08-31-21, 04:01
I do agree it's a sad joke. When you have a puppet President, cartoons are appropriate.Biden is a puppet and the former guy wasn't? Where were you from 2016 to 2020?

EihTooms
08-31-21, 07:51
I do agree it's a sad joke. When you have a puppet President, cartoons are appropriate.Um...for the past 33 years, the final 1/3 of the previous 100 years/century, through EIGHT presidential elections, only one Republican Party candidate in only one of those eight presidential elections managed to bamboozle enough Americans into giving him more votes than the Democratic Party candidate got. Not many more. And that one was only because his astonishing incompetence and stupidity in not bothering to even pretend to respond to a clear and present danger of "Bin Laden Determined To Strike in US" in a PDB spelled out for him verbally and in text provided him the opporunity to proudly announce he was a "Wartime President!" ahead of his re-election run.

You know, a "Wartime President!" is hard to beat in his 2nd term run. So W did indeed squeeze out a small number more votes more than his Dem challenger that time. That was the 1 out of 8.

BTW, one of that Repub lamebrain's poorly managed wars was the one another Republican so-called potus officially lost and surrendered America to just last year. Turns out that more recent Repub was so much more spectacularly incompetent and stupid than the previous one he could not "negotiate" a 2nd term win no matter how much election fraud, foreign adversary collusion and bribery with tax-payer money he threw at it.

But, hey, the previous Repub did get his 2nd term win. Lucky us. Because, man, as bad as that first Republican so-called potus' term was, his 2nd term actually TOPPED it for colossal fuck ups seriously damaging the country and the world! Lol.

However, he did not inflict as much damage to America and the world as the recent one accomplished in just ONE term. Got to give him that.

So good luck trying to characterize Biden or any other Dem as a "failure" at ANYTHING relative to any Repub only armed with cartoons, deceptively-edited videos and all that junk rather than based on actual results.

Clearly, the American people and electorate are on to the Repub con and scam, have been for for decades. If they could abolish the rigged Electoral College system to even more effectively prevent another Repub from coming within an Insurrection Mob police line of the White House they would.

The QOP knows all about this very, very well. That is why their only apparent mission to accomplish is passing laws to make it more difficult for predominantly Dem areas to have their ballots received and their votes counted and to Do Nothing else.

Just as Trump would want them to. LOL. Imagine being THAT sad excuse for a human being's Puppets. Yet that is the QOP's chosen order to obey. Almost every one of them.

PVMonger
08-31-21, 22:43
Here's a vaccination meme that makes sense.

Xpartan
09-01-21, 07:58
Here's a vaccination meme that makes sense.We are sheep because we follow science, and they are free spirits because they follow the cult.

MarquisdeSade1
09-01-21, 22:56
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/poll-politico-us/2021/09/01/id/1034698/

https://www.newsmax.com/us/rasmussen-taliban-resignation-american-voters/2021/09/01/id/1034627/

PVMonger
09-02-21, 13:56
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/poll-politico-us/2021/09/01/id/1034698/

https://www.newsmax.com/us/rasmussen-taliban-resignation-american-voters/2021/09/01/id/1034627/Fascists don't believe in polls. Except when the polls confirm their TCS bias.

Chris P
09-02-21, 20:25
We are sheep because we follow science, and they are free spirits because they follow the cult.Would that include the science of gender differences? And the science that 30 years ago told us we would all be underwater by now?

Chris P
09-02-21, 20:32
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/poll-politico-us/2021/09/01/id/1034698/

https://www.newsmax.com/us/rasmussen-taliban-resignation-american-voters/2021/09/01/id/1034627/Democrats / media / Washington deep state don't care what the American people think. They've proven they can rig an election so they don't need us. Long term they plan to replace us with third world immigrants who will do as they're told (see California, and the brown servants on Nancy Pelosi's vast estate who gratefully vote for her in thankful obedience for the crumbs she drops for them).

MarquisdeSade1
09-02-21, 21:24
https://nypost.com/2021/08/26/hillary-and-bill-clinton-spotted-in-the-hamptons/

Thankfully that vile pig isn't in the "oval" office representing the USA jajajajajaaaa.

PVMonger
09-02-21, 22:36
Democrats / media / Washington deep state don't care what the American people think. They've proven they can rig an election so they don't need us. Long term they plan to replace us with third world immigrants who will do as they're told (see California, and the brown servants on Nancy Pelosi's vast estate who gratefully vote for her in thankful obedience for the crumbs she drops for them).Only the QOP and the fascist sheep believe the completely unproven lie of a stolen election. They have tried for 8 months to prove what doesn't exist.

And you're right, the US doesn't need fascists who hate everybody who isn't white. Maybe the fascists should try taking over some other lily-white country and elect some fascist-for-life dictator like the former guy. You can also set up a state-run TV propaganda network and call it Fux'ed Again "News".

True xenophobes are rare but we've got one here.

Golfinho
09-02-21, 23:55
https://nypost.com/2021/08/26/hillary-and-bill-clinton-spotted-in-the-hamptons/

Thankfully that vile pig isn't in the "oval" office representing the USA jajajajajaaaa.What a great picture. Really captures the essence there. Thanks for sharing.

Golfinho
09-03-21, 00:05
And you're right, the US doesn't need fascists who hate everybody who isn't white. Maybe the fascists should try taking over some other lily-white country.Big Pharma, Big Tech, the defense contractors and the revolving door between boardroom / media / holding office is where the real fascists are. But, go ahead blame the little working people who've gotten fed up with being shafted while the one percent hoover up all the economic assets they can get their grasping hands on. These fascists are color blind: they'll exploit anything that smells like money.

EihTooms
09-03-21, 10:19
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/poll-politico-us/2021/09/01/id/1034698/

https://www.newsmax.com/us/rasmussen-taliban-resignation-american-voters/2021/09/01/id/1034627/Newsmax and Rasmussen? LOL.

Right next to their report about Farmer Zeke being kidnapped and impregnated by space aliens and a poll showing 90% of their carefully selected respondents are sure the Dems have baby's blood-drinking rituals at pizza parlours.

EihTooms
09-03-21, 10:31
https://nypost.com/2021/08/26/hillary-and-bill-clinton-spotted-in-the-hamptons/

Thankfully that vile pig isn't in the "oval" office representing the USA jajajajajaaaa.Neither Clinton nor any other Dem would have defunded the CDC and pulled all of their Pandemic Prevention and Response monitors from those Chinese labs in 2018 against all expert advice and dire warnings not to do something so foolhardy and stupid.

But your guy did.

And if they somehow had lost their mind and done it, they would not have panicked and compounded the disaster that spectacularly bad decision produced by LYING it from a possibly manageable endemic confined to the Wuhan area of China into the deadly worldwide economy destroying Pandemic it became.

But your guy did.

Of all the damage your NOT voting for Hillary Clinton in 2016 caused, and there was historic across the board damage done by it, that particular serious damage done to international travel for mongering will likely be the longest lasting and is probably the self-inflicted one that stings the Wingers on this website the most.

And I don't even think that one would land among the Top 100 Most Effective list for "Owning The Libs." LOL.

Chris P
09-03-21, 11:02
The "election" was obviously fraudulent. Millions of mail-in ballots spammed out to whoever. No ID checks, no verification. Ballots dropped off into "collection boxes" or picked up en masse by democrat operatives.

And then at midnight, when they realised that they hadn't cheated enough to beat Trump's massive vote, they had to shut the count down in places like Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia, throw out all the election observers, board up the windows, then bring in hundreds of thousands of fake ballots at 4 am, 98% for Biden.

If it happened in Uzbekistan or Burkina Faso, nobody would recognize the result.

And that's not even getting into the massive fake news and social media suppression of information prior to the election. The fact that social media actually banned the country's oldest newspaper, the New York Post for running a true story highlighting Biden family corruption that came directly from Hunter's laptop. The fact that the fake media hid Biden's senility and incapability, and allowed him to hide in his basement reading from an autocue for an hour a day.

Again, if such obvious bias happened in some third world country, nobody would recognize the result.

As for mass immigration, look at California. 50 years ago, 90% white, easily the best place in the world. Today, 40% white, a failing shithole with a tiny elite and a mass of penniless peasants literally shitting in the streets.

If you changed the demographics of Nigeria and filled it with 30% Indians; or filled China with 50 million Africans, or filled Mexico with 40 million Chinese, how do you think it would go? Would they join hands and sing kumbaya? Or would there be riots, tensions, and destruction of living standards and quality of life for everyone?

Axel Heyst
09-03-21, 13:14
This video says it all. Biden is the most incompetent US President in history.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Biden+as+%27 Surrenderer+in+Chief%27&docid=13906660002614&mid=4 F9 D71 E7 A8767434 C8904 F9 D71 E7 A8767434 C890&view=detail&FORM=VIRE.

Chris P
09-03-21, 13:28
Neither Clinton nor any other Dem would have defunded the CDC It was the Dems' messiah Fauci who funded the gain of function research in China that created covid in the first place.

PVMonger
09-03-21, 14:54
Big Pharma, Big Tech, the defense contractors and the revolving door between boardroom / media / holding office is where the real fascists are. But, go ahead blame the little working people who've gotten fed up with being shafted while the one percent hoover up all the economic assets they can get their grasping hands on. These fascists are color blind: they'll exploit anything that smells like money.Of course "big corporations" are in it for the money. But they aren't fascists according to the real definition of the word. Read the following very long article https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism.

And give me a break with this disingenuous BS: "little working people who've gotten fed up with being shafted". Most "working class" Republicans are shafting themselves because they consistently vote for people and policies that harm themselves. They consistently vote for policies that enrich large corporations and harm the little guy.

Want dirty water? Vote Republican. Want to breathe dirty air? Vote Republican. Want to pay thru the nose for substandard healthcare? Vote Republican. Why do they do this? Because Republican politicians are good at getting their base to believe that the opposite of "Republican" is "Comminist" or "Socialist". And neither could be further from the truth! https://www.britannica.com/topic/socialism.

But the wingers who post here are fascists according to Britannica. They hate everybody who isn't white like them. They hate everybody who isn't Christian like them. They are all immigrants but hate immigrants. They hate everybody who isn't "straight", yet many are in-the-closet. They want their authoritarian strong man to rule everybody else except them with an iron fist. They want a police state as long as the police crack down on everybody else.

MarquisdeSade1
09-03-21, 17:39
The "election" was obviously fraudulent. Millions of mail-in ballots spammed out to whoever. No ID checks, no verification. Ballots dropped off into "collection boxes" or picked up en masse by democrat operatives.

And then at midnight, when they realised that they hadn't cheated enough to beat Trump's massive vote, they had to shut the count down in places like Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia, throw out all the election observers, board up the windows, then bring in hundreds of thousands of fake ballots at 4 am, 98% for Biden.

If it happened in Uzbekistan or Burkina Faso, nobody would recognize the result.

And that's not even getting into the massive fake news and social media suppression of information prior to the election. The fact that social media actually banned the country's oldest newspaper, the New York Post for running a true story highlighting Biden family corruption that came directly from Hunter's laptop. The fact that the fake media hid Biden's senility and incapability, and allowed him to hide in his basement reading from an autocue for an hour a day.

Again, if such obvious bias happened in some third world country, nobody would recognize the result.

As for mass immigration, look at California. 50 years ago, 90% white, easily the best place in the world. Today, 40% white, a failing shithole with a tiny elite and a mass of penniless peasants literally shitting in the streets.

If you changed the demographics of Nigeria and filled it with 30% Indians; or filled China with 50 million Africans, or filled Mexico with 40 million Chinese, how do you think it would go? Would they join hands and sing kumbaya? Or would there be riots, tensions, and destruction of living standards and quality of life for everyone?https://www.newsmax.com/conradblack/adams-clay/2021/02/04/id/1008700/

How sad this all is. Didn't someone. Stalin perhaps? - that it doesn't matter who votes, it's who counts the votes.

MarquisdeSade1
09-03-21, 17:45
The "election" was obviously fraudulent. Millions of mail-in ballots spammed out to whoever. No ID checks, no verification. Ballots dropped off into "collection boxes" or picked up en masse by democrat operatives.

And then at midnight, when they realised that they hadn't cheated enough to beat Trump's massive vote, they had to shut the count down in places like Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia, throw out all the election observers, board up the windows, then bring in hundreds of thousands of fake ballots at 4 am, 98% for Biden.

If it happened in Uzbekistan or Burkina Faso, nobody would recognize the result.

And that's not even getting into the massive fake news and social media suppression of information prior to the election. The fact that social media actually banned the country's oldest newspaper, the New York Post for running a true story highlighting Biden family corruption that came directly from Hunter's laptop. The fact that the fake media hid Biden's senility and incapability, and allowed him to hide in his basement reading from an autocue for an hour a day.How sad this all is. Didn't someone. Stalin perhaps? - that it doesn't matter who votes, it's who counts the votes.

PVMonger
09-03-21, 19:06
The "election" was obviously fraudulent. Millions of mail-in ballots spammed out to whoever. No ID checks, no verification. Ballots dropped off into "collection boxes" or picked up en masse by democrat operatives.

And then at midnight, when they realised that they hadn't cheated enough to beat Trump's massive vote, they had to shut the count down in places like Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia, throw out all the election observers, board up the windows, then bring in hundreds of thousands of fake ballots at 4 am, 98% for Biden.

If it happened in Uzbekistan or Burkina Faso, nobody would recognize the result.

And that's not even getting into the massive fake news and social media suppression of information prior to the election. The fact that social media actually banned the country's oldest newspaper, the New York Post for running a true story highlighting Biden family corruption that came directly from Hunter's laptop. The fact that the fake media hid Biden's senility and incapability, and allowed him to hide in his basement reading from an autocue for an hour a day.

Again, if such obvious bias happened in some third world country, nobody would recognize the result.

As for mass immigration, look at California. 50 years ago, 90% white, easily the best place in the world. Today, 40% white, a failing shithole with a tiny elite and a mass of penniless peasants literally shitting in the streets.

If you changed the demographics of Nigeria and filled it with 30% Indians; or filled China with 50 million Africans, or filled Mexico with 40 million Chinese, how do you think it would go? Would they join hands and sing kumbaya? Or would there be riots, tensions, and destruction of living standards and quality of life for everyone?The only people who believe in "the big lie" are wingers. But keep on donating money to the former guy. He'll keep on taking it so he can fund super spreader rallies.

Every mainstream media outlet in the world mentioned some form of a "Republican mirage" on election day. Every one of these outlets realized that more Republicans would vote in person and more Democrats would vote by mail. Since many states count mail-in ballots last, these outlets predicted that Republicans would have a early lead that would be chipped away with mail-in ballots. The only people who didn't believe this were wingers who wanted vote counting stopped at midnight. When that didn't work they turned to the cockamamie theories that all wingers believe.

Why aren't otherrightwingnut news reporting on Hunter's laptop? After all, Fux "News" and the like have never let facts stand in the way of a convenient lie. The simple reason is that even Fux didn't believe the NY Post horse manure. The only people who believed it were wingers.

Who was the last person, before the former guy, who made use of the "fake news" line? Hint: think Germany between 1933 and 1945.

Anyone who believes a word of the original post is a fascist.

MarquisdeSade1
09-03-21, 22:43
Neither Clinton nor any other Dem would have defunded the CDC and pulled all of their Pandemic Prevention and Response monitors from those Chinese labs in 2018 against all expert advice and dire warnings not to do something so foolhardy and stupid.

But your guy did.

And if they somehow had lost their mind and done it, they would not have panicked and compounded the disaster that spectacularly bad decision produced by LYING it from a possibly manageable endemic confined to the Wuhan area of China into the deadly worldwide economy destroying Pandemic it became.

But your guy did.

Of all the damage your NOT voting for Hillary Clinton in 2016 caused, and there was historic across the board damage done by it, that particular serious damage done to international travel for mongering will likely be the longest lasting and is probably the self-inflicted one that stings the Wingers on this website the most.

And I don't even think that one would land among the Top 100 Most Effective list for "Owning The Libs." LOL.Are you referring to our Lord and Savior, President Donald J Trump.

The savior of western civilization.

Humanity's last hope, 2024.

Golfinho
09-03-21, 23:00
Of course "big corporations" are in it for the money.

And give me a break with this disingenuous BS: "little working people who've gotten fed up with being shafted". Most "working class" Republicans are shafting themselves because they consistently vote for people and policies that harm themselves. They consistently vote for policies that enrich large corporations and harm the little But the wingers who post here are fascists according to Britannica.We're long past the 1930's and the heyday of Brittanica. Post-truth, post-postmodern, a word is whatever you want it mean. A sex is whatever you want it it be: choose your own. Politics is whatever you want it to be. You are defining yourself when try to define people you don't like. There you go.

EihTooms
09-04-21, 02:05
Are you referring to our Lord and Savior, President Donald J Trump.

The savior of western civilization.

Humanity's last hope, 2024.Yes, Donald J. Trump, of Trump's Pandemic, the blatantly obvious life-long con man who suckered you into voting FOR another Great Repub Crash and Massive USA Jobs Destruction with the added bonus this time of mass murdering 650,000+ Americans and hobbling international travel for mongering, perhaps forever, due to his previously well known penchant for astonishing incompetence, cowardice and lies.

Yeah, that's your guy. And now you have an unlimited number of his clones in the Republican QOP you can help to win or steal elections, thereby predictably ensuring a repeat and prolonging of those Trump/Repub results, by simply NOT voting for Dems at every opportunity. Enjoy, Mr. Admitted Sadist.

Golfinho
09-04-21, 02:17
Of course "big corporations" are in it for the money.The term Big Pharma is clearly unfamiliar to you. "In it for the money": monopolistic pricing and practices, writing the laws, capturing the regulators, gaming the system, executive pay. CEO salary is how many times the salary of the average worker? Have minimum salaries kept pace with spending power? It's the growing inequality gap, chasing the elusive dream that have people desperate enough to grasp at straws or grifters. Bringing in third world foreigners who are too glad to chase after any crumbs is no solution. It's actually an ultimate act of eff you cynicism to honest, taxpaying working folks. And then having the chutzpah to then call these people racists is sheer hubris.

Xpartan
09-04-21, 04:04
How sad this all is. Didn't someone. Stalin perhaps? - that it doesn't matter who votes, it's who counts the votes.Nah, you're just sad that your beloved entertainer lost.

Funny though how you remembered Stalin thinking of Trump.

CrowExplorer
09-04-21, 04:56
Yes, Donald J. Trump, of Trump's Pandemic, the blatantly obvious life-long con man who suckered you into voting FOR another Great Repub Crash and Massive USA Jobs Destruction with the added bonus this time of mass murdering 650,000+ Americans and hobbling international travel for mongering, perhaps forever, due to his previously well known penchant for astonishing incompetence, cowardice and lies..Right, because it's Trumps fault that covid happened. Not like it's global pandemic or anything.

PVMonger
09-04-21, 14:06
Right, because it's Trumps fault that covid happened. Not like it's global pandemic or anything.It is the former guy's fault that more Americans died on his watch than the combat deaths during the Civil War. Why? Because he lied about it. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/11/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/.

He admitted it to Bob Woodward, FFS! https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-bob-woodward-politics-6d3932070522339fa91b8b3d3fc046fa.

Add the above to the fact that the former caused many of the problems we see today. Back when the only things we had to fight the virus were masks and social distancing, he politicized masks. Then he urged his supporters to inject disinfectant. Now we have vaccines and a high percentage of his supporters won't take it. At his last superspreader event (oops, rally) his own cult boo'ed him for suggesting they get vaccinated. We currently have a COVID variant (delta) that's killing younger people and the brainwashed still cling to "COVID only kills old people with co-morbidities" line. And all of that can be laid at the feet of the former guy.

Look at countries that have done far better than the US. Then look at countries that have done worse. Virtually all of them have wingnut fascists in charge. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?.

PVMonger
09-04-21, 15:28
We're long past the 1930's and the heyday of Brittanica. Post-truth, post-postmodern, a word is whatever you want it mean. A sex is whatever you want it it be: choose your own. Politics is whatever you want it to be. You are defining yourself when try to define people you don't like. There you go.It is easy to support the former guy. His supporters reject any source that isn't a wingnut source. They reject any thought that isn't a wingnut thought. They haven't a clue what fascists, xenophobes or racists are. They do know what homophobes are, thoough, and many of their ranks are squarely in the closet.

PVMonger
09-04-21, 15:59
The term Big Pharma is clearly unfamiliar to you. "In it for the money": monopolistic pricing and practices, writing the laws, capturing the regulators, gaming the system, executive pay. CEO salary is how many times the salary of the average worker? Have minimum salaries kept pace with spending power? It's the growing inequality gap, chasing the elusive dream that have people desperate enough to grasp at straws or grifters. Bringing in third world foreigners who are too glad to chase after any crumbs is no solution. It's actually an ultimate act of eff you cynicism to honest, taxpaying working folks. And then having the chutzpah to then call these people racists is sheer hubris.If all of this is true (monopolistic pricing and practices, writing the laws, capturing the regulators, gaming the system, executive pay. CEO salary is how many times the salary of the average worker? Have minimum salaries kept pace with spending power? It's the growing inequality gap, chasing the elusive dream) then desperate people would never vote Republican. They vote Republican because they are afraid of Brown people. And black people. And red people. And yellow people. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/30/17505406/trump-obama-race-politics-immigration.

Wingers are afraid of anybody who doesn't look like them. And they forget (but in truth probably never knew it anyway) that we've been through all of this before. With the same tired BS. Italian hatred in the late 1800's: https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-11-26/brief-history-america-s-hostility-previous-generation-mediterranean-migrants Irish hatred earlier: https://www.vox.com/2015/3/17/8227175/st-patricks-irish-immigrant-history.

What really galls me though is the "third world foreigners who are too glad to chase after any crumbs" mentality. Unless you are a Native American, you are a child of "foreigners". And unless your ancestors immigrated from an English-speaking country and were wealthy when they got here, they arrived with nothing and could speak virtually no English. And your ancestors gladly chased after any crumbs they could find.

So spare me the manufactured outrage. Wingers want America to return to the 50's. Specifically, the 1850's when it was legal to own black people and to shoot them if they misbehaved.

MarquisdeSade1
09-04-21, 19:08
The "election" was obviously fraudulent. Millions of mail-in ballots spammed out to whoever. No ID checks, no verification. Ballots dropped off into "collection boxes" or picked up en masse by democrat operatives.

And then at midnight, when they realised that they hadn't cheated enough to beat Trump's massive vote, they had to shut the count down in places like Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia, throw out all the election observers, board up the windows, then bring in hundreds of thousands of fake ballots at 4 am, 98% for Biden.

If it happened in Uzbekistan or Burkina Faso, nobody would recognize the result.

And that's not even getting into the massive fake news and social media suppression of information prior to the election. The fact that social media actually banned the country's oldest newspaper, the New York Post for running a true story highlighting Biden family corruption that came directly from Hunter's laptop. The fact that the fake media hid Biden's senility and incapability, and allowed him to hide in his basement reading from an autocue for an hour a day.

Again, if such obvious bias happened in some third world country, nobody would recognize the result.

As for mass immigration, look at California. 50 years ago, 90% white, easily the best place in the world. Today, 40% white, a failing shithole with a tiny elite and a mass of penniless peasants literally shitting in the streets.

If you changed the demographics of Nigeria and filled it with 30% Indians; or filled China with 50 million Africans, or filled Mexico with 40 million Chinese, how do you think it would go? Would they join hands and sing kumbaya? Or would there be riots, tensions, and destruction of living standards and quality of life for everyone?https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/04/world/africa/South-Africa-Phoenix-riots-deaths.html

Chris P
09-04-21, 19:29
https://www.newsmax.com/conradblack/adams-clay/2021/02/04/id/1008700/

How sad this all is. Didn't someone. Stalin perhaps? - that it doesn't matter who votes, it's who counts the votes.He sure did. He has a lot in common with the current deep state swampers infesting Washington: all are bolsheviks who despise America and our freedoms.

Chris P
09-04-21, 19:35
Right, because it's Trumps fault that covid happened. Not like it's global pandemic or anything.According to the communists and their fake media, not a single person would have died of covid if a Democrat had been president.

This is despite the fact that Trump stopped flights from China way back in January 2020, when Pelosi was telling people to hug a Chinaman, and Biden criticised the move as "xenophobic".

So despite the fact that they would have kept accepting flights full of covid-infected Chinese from Wuhan for weeks if not months longer than Trump did, there would have been fewer covid cases and deaths in America in Democrat bolshevik clownworld.

Starting to see why they're called fake news?

Chris P
09-04-21, 19:44
Are you referring to our Lord and Savior, President Donald J Trump.

The savior of western civilization.

Humanity's last hope, 2024.Certainly America's last hope.

Given that they had to cheat to "win" the 2020 election with Biden who, for all his many faults is a reasonably likeable and relatable guy to most Americans, there is no possible way that they can get Harris across the line against Trump.

On top of the economic disaster (terrible economic news for Biden / Harris came out yesterday) and the humiliation of Afghanistan, Harris is universally detested, even by her own side.

She is an unlikeable, cackling affirmative action **** who fucked her way up, not to mention barely even an American. No wonder she has no understanding of our liberties and way of life. She makes Hillary Clinton seem like Mary Tyler Moore.

The fraud will have to be like something out of Mubarak's Egypt. If it happens, expect the beginning of the end for the current rotten system.

Chris P
09-04-21, 19:46
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/04/world/africa/South-Africa-Phoenix-riots-deaths.htmlThere it is. The hatreds between different non-white ethnic groups are usually worse than between whites and others. See Koreans v blacks in LA. Say goodbye to the nice, peaceful, friendly, united, homogeneous country we enjoyed for 200 years.

MarquisdeSade1
09-04-21, 20:44
He sure did. He has a lot in common with the current deep state swampers infesting Washington: all are bolsheviks who despise America and our freedoms.2 Catholics cheated their way into the White House.

EihTooms
09-04-21, 21:48
The "election" was obviously fraudulent. Millions of mail-in ballots spammed out to whoever. No ID checks, no verification. Ballots dropped off into "collection boxes" or picked up en masse by democrat operatives.

And then at midnight, when they realised that they hadn't cheated enough to beat Trump's massive vote, they had to shut the count down in places like Atlanta, Detroit and Philadelphia, throw out all the election observers, board up the windows, then bring in hundreds of thousands of fake ballots at 4 am, 98% for Biden.

If it happened in Uzbekistan or Burkina Faso, nobody would recognize the result.

And that's not even getting into the massive fake news and social media suppression of information prior to the election. The fact that social media actually banned the country's oldest newspaper, the New York Post for running a true story highlighting Biden family corruption that came directly from Hunter's laptop. The fact that the fake media hid Biden's senility and incapability, and allowed him to hide in his basement reading from an autocue for an hour a day.

Again, if such obvious bias happened in some third world country, nobody would recognize the result.

As for mass immigration, look at California. 50 years ago, 90% white, easily the best place in the world. Today, 40% white, a failing shithole with a tiny elite and a mass of penniless peasants literally shitting in the streets.

If you changed the demographics of Nigeria and filled it with 30% Indians; or filled China with 50 million Africans, or filled Mexico with 40 million Chinese, how do you think it would go? Would they join hands and sing kumbaya? Or would there be riots, tensions, and destruction of living standards and quality of life for everyone?Man, I hope the Dems have their shit together that much for the midterms, the next presidential election and every election after that for the next 30-40 years. They'll need it to counter all the voter suppression laws panicky state and local Repubs are putting on the books targeting Dems.

It'll be great to have the Dems control the Presidency and both Houses of Congress at least that long no matter what.

I knew they were the only Party of the 2 major ones that hasn't produced a serious economic downturn of the past 100 years, destroyed millions of USA jobs (ever) or foolishly left us bare ass naked to prevent or respond to the risk of a Pandemic. But I had no idea they were also smart and competent enough to commit widespread election/voter fraud to swing the outcome without leaving a shred of evidence behind convincing enough for teams of Repub-hired attorneys to discover and present in a court of law.

Damn, they're good!

Golfinho
09-04-21, 21:58
If all of this is true (monopolistic pricing and practices, writing the laws, capturing the regulators, gaming the system, executive pay. CEO salary is how many times the salary of the average worker? Have minimum salaries kept pace with spending power? It's the growing inequality gap, chasing the elusive dream) then desperate people would never vote Republican. They vote Republican because they are afraid of Brown people. And black people. And red people. And yellow people. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/30/17505406/trump-obama-race-politics-immigration.

Wingers are afraid of anybody who doesn't look like them. And they forget (but in truth probably never knew it anyway) that we've been through all of this before. With the same tired BS. Italian hatred in the late 1800's: https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-11-26/brief-history-america-s-hostility-previous-generation-mediterranean-migrants Irish hatred earlier: https://www.vox.com/2015/3/17/8227175/st-patricks-irish-immigrant-history.

What really galls me though is the "third world foreigners who are too glad to chase after any crumbs" mentality. Unless you are a Native American, you are a child of "foreigners". And unless your ancestors immigrated from an English-speaking country and were wealthy when they got here, they arrived with nothing and could speak virtually no English. And your ancestors gladly chased after any crumbs they could find.

So spare me the manufactured outrage. Wingers want America to return to the 50's. Specifically, the 1850's when it was legal to own black people and to shoot them if they misbehaved.You are believing your own myths. Or you've internalized your own projections. Same thing.

In context exclusively of America historically -- and not from any anthropological perspective -- let the brother give you his first person take (something informative unlike an encyclopedia entry):

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/03/213324/

Chris P
09-04-21, 22:27
If all of this is true (monopolistic pricing and practices, writing the laws, capturing the regulators, gaming the system, executive pay. CEO salary is how many times the salary of the average worker? Have minimum salaries kept pace with spending power? It's the growing inequality gap, chasing the elusive dream) then desperate people would never vote Republican. They vote Republican because they are afraid of Brown people. And black people. And red people. And yellow people. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/30/17505406/trump-obama-race-politics-immigration.

What really galls me though is the "third world foreigners who are too glad to chase after any crumbs" mentality. Unless you are a Native American, you are a child of "foreigners". And unless your ancestors immigrated from an English-speaking country and were wealthy when they got here, they arrived with nothing and could speak virtually no English.Low IQ leftists don't understand how mass third world immigration hurts American workers and benefits the elite CEO class because they don't understand supply and demand.

They are the same kind of people who supported the women soccer players demands to be paid the same as the men despite the fact that women's soccer generates like 2% of the revenue of men's soccer (hilariously, the case concluded that the women were relatively overpaid already).

As for the second point, when Europeans emigrated to America in the 19th century and before, there was no welfare state and little wealth. It was the European settlers who created all of that out of nothing.

Now third world flunkies break into the country and immediately get housing, food, healthcare and other welfare paid for by the American taxpayer. Those of them who do work benefit from the huge and wealthy American economy created by the earlier European settlers.

None of that existed in the 19th Century and before. It is incredibly ignorant to compare the illegal welfare flunkies currently swarming the border to the settlers who created America.

PVMonger
09-04-21, 22:37
According to the communists and their fake media, not a single person would have died of covid if a Democrat had been president.

This is despite the fact that Trump stopped flights from China way back in January 2020, when Pelosi was telling people to hug a Chinaman, and Biden criticised the move as "xenophobic".

So despite the fact that they would have kept accepting flights full of covid-infected Chinese from Wuhan for weeks if not months longer than Trump did, there would have been fewer covid cases and deaths in America in Democrat bolshevik clownworld.

Starting to see why they're called fake news?First, you haven't a clue what a communist is, yet you certainly use the word a lot. That and socialist. Just like Fux "News" and the former guy. I realize that you will never get educated on the meaning of socialism, communism and fascism. But hope springs eternal.

No democrat has ever said that nobody would have died if a Democrat were in charge. The facts are that the former guy lied about and / or downplayed COVID for the entire time he knew about it. I posted a link earlier. He and his advisers were simply too ignorant to realize that the economy and COVID were linked. Everybody in their right mind knew the two were linked except, of course, the former guy, his advisers, most Republican politicians and the former guy's 74 million cultists.

So the former guy politicized the only thing that would have helped early on. Masks. But because a mask made him look like a weak pumpkin, he didn't wear one and urged his sheep to do the same. Now, when we have a vaccine, he could help get people vaccinated by doing a PSA. But he won't because that would give Biden a win. This sounds like great Republican policy "Let's kill our own supporters just so we can own the libs."

What I'm starting to see is that you're a troll.

MarquisdeSade1
09-04-21, 23:01
Even a broken clock is correct twice per day jajajaja.

https://variety.com/2021/global/asia/china-cissy-idols-effeminate-men-entertainment-industry-1235055304/

MarquisdeSade1
09-05-21, 02:09
Low IQ leftists don't understand how mass third world immigration hurts American workers and benefits the elite CEO class because they don't understand supply and demand.

They are the same kind of people who supported the women soccer players demands to be paid the same as the men despite the fact that women's soccer generates like 2% of the revenue of men's soccer (hilariously, the case concluded that the women were relatively overpaid already).

As for the second point, when Europeans emigrated to America in the 19th century and before, there was no welfare state and little wealth. It was the European settlers who created all of that out of nothing.

Now third world flunkies break into the country and immediately get housing, food, healthcare and other welfare paid for by the American taxpayer. Those of them who do work benefit from the huge and wealthy American economy created by the earlier European settlers.

None of that existed in the 19th Century and before. It is incredibly ignorant to compare the illegal welfare flunkies currently swarming the border to the settlers who created America.https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/us/politics/biden-blue-collar-voters.html

Xpartan
09-05-21, 06:06
He has a lot in common with the current deep state swampers infesting Washington: all are bolsheviks who despise America and our freedoms.He's part of the swamp, he hates American freedoms, has decades-long connections with Russia, and a bestie with ex-bolshevik Putin.

When a glove fits!

EihTooms
09-05-21, 09:55
Certainly America's last hope.

Given that they had to cheat to "win" the 2020 election with Biden who, for all his many faults is a reasonably likeable and relatable guy to most Americans, there is no possible way that they can get Harris across the line against Trump.

On top of the economic disaster (terrible economic news for Biden / Harris came out yesterday) and the humiliation of Afghanistan, Harris is universally detested, even by her own side.

She is an unlikeable, cackling affirmative action **** who fucked her way up, not to mention barely even an American. No wonder she has no understanding of our liberties and way of life. She makes Hillary Clinton seem like Mary Tyler Moore.

The fraud will have to be like something out of Mubarak's Egypt. If it happens, expect the beginning of the end for the current rotten system.Terrible economic news for Biden/Harris came out yesterday? LOL. When 235,000+ jobs were occasionally created in a month under Trump before his disastrous economic stewardship led us directly to the inevitable Great Repub Crash and Massive USA Job Losses all Repubs are contractually required to produce whenever given the chance, Trump and the reliably Repub-supportive Mainstream Media spent the next 2-3 weeks doing cartwheels and taking victory laps about it.

To produce that many in a month (and 750,000 per month on average since Biden took office) while the DeSantis Delta Variant of Trump's Pandemic Virus is again working very hard to destroy the hospitality and travel industry is a goddam miracle.

Chris P
09-05-21, 14:02
He's part of the swampRight, that must be why the swamp and its fake news treat him so well.

PVMonger
09-05-21, 15:12
You are believing your own myths. Or you've internalized your own projections. Same thing.

In context exclusively of America historically -- and not from any anthropological perspective -- let the brother give you his first person take (something informative unlike an encyclopedia entry):

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/09/03/213324/How exactly does this article do anything do dispell any "myths"? The author specifically refers to white vs black racism.

Are you suggesting that the Irish, the Italians, the Jews, etc. Didn't encounter hatred when they immigrated? Or Chinese? Or Native Americans for that matter.

If someone believes that the only racism that exists in America is the white vs black kind, all you need to do is talk to any person of color.

Smoothy
09-05-21, 16:16
Terrible economic news for Biden/Harris came out yesterday?.Absolutely horrendous given the fact that almost all businesses are now back open due to the great success of the vaccines created during the Trump admin. You would think the number would be FAR FAR higher than 235,000 people going back to work since businesses were completely shut down by the virus prior to now.

Job Killer Joe is a disaster in every way.

EihTooms
09-05-21, 18:42
Even a broken clock is correct twice per day jajajaja.

https://variety.com/2021/global/asia/china-cissy-idols-effeminate-men-entertainment-industry-1235055304/


China Wants ‘Sissy Idols’ and ‘Effeminate Men’ Scrubbed From Entertainment IndustryNow, THAT'S funny coming from you.

Have you ever actually looked at your lord and savior Donald J. Trump's hair, his face, his mannerisms, hand gestures, body shape, listened to his voice, etc?

He passes for an old Hillary Clinton more convincingly than Hillary Clinton does! LOL.

Golfinho
09-05-21, 20:20
How exactly does this article do anything do dispell any "myths"?
If someone believes that the only racism that exists in America is the white vs black kind, all you need to do is talk to any person of color.Here's the essential point being made:

"A major component of my work has been against racism and its central role as a counterrevolutionary tool and weapon of the capitalist imperialist system, used to polarize the oppressed masses and pit them against each other. It's important that readers grasp from this discussion that racism is and always has been manufactured and manipulated by the establishment (the ruling class and government) as a counterrevolutionary strategy to divide and control the people".

Try the article again. To gain an increased understanding of what's going on, it's necessary to challenge yourself sometimes.

PVMonger
09-05-21, 20:41
Absolutely horrendous given the fact that almost all businesses are now back open due to the great success of the vaccines created during the Trump admin. You would think the number would be FAR FAR higher than 235,000 people going back to work since businesses were completely shut down by the virus prior to now.

Job Killer Joe is a disaster in every way.Why, then, are so many cultists refusing vaccinations? Did the former guy create faulty vaccines? How come the former guy was boo'ed at his recent COVID superspreader event when he suggested that they get vaccinated? You can't have it both ways.

If you want to give the former guy credit for the vaccine then there are only two reasons for being unvaccinated. Either the vaccines that trump created are great and his unvaccinated supporters are ignorant for being unvaccinated or the vaccines that trump created are faulty and his supporters are geniuses because they don't want to take a faulty vaccine. Which one is it?

"almost all businesses are now back open"? What cockamamie BS is that? What is your source for this misinformation? Because the information I find shows nothing of the sort. https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/06/08/kamala-harris-small-business-closures-covid-fact-check/7602531002/ and https://sbecouncil.org/2021/01/21/millions-of-small-businesses-closed-in-2020-the-long-recovery-ahead/.

Xpartan
09-05-21, 21:20
Right, that must be why the swamp and its fake news treat him so well.Finally, you've acknowledged the obvious!

The swamp and its fake media are treating him like a king (literally).

I mean, Lindsey, Kevin, Marjorie, Foxy, Oanny, Newsymaxy, and one zillion of radio stations across the land.

So yeah, that must be why.

MarquisdeSade1
09-05-21, 21:44
Absolutely horrendous given the fact that almost all businesses are now back open due to the great success of the vaccines created during the Trump admin. You would think the number would be FAR FAR higher than 235,000 people going back to work since businesses were completely shut down by the virus prior to now.

Job Killer Joe is a disaster in every way.https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/09/02/1033396323/china-is-imposing-strict-lockdowns-to-contain-new-covid-outbreaks-but-theres-a-c

Chris P
09-05-21, 22:39
First, you haven'tblablablaTrump shut down flights from China on January 31 2020. The democrats opposed this, with Pelosi going round telling everyone to hug a Chinaman, and Biden calling it "xenophobic". Would the democrat policy of allowing thousands of covid-infected Chinese to fly into the country daily have.

A) increased.

Or, b) reduced.

The spread of covid? No need for a long-winded answer which nobody will read, just a or be. Thanks.

Chris P
09-05-21, 22:58
Finally, you've acknowledged the obvious!

The swamp and its fake media are treating him like a king (literally).

I mean, Lindsey, Kevin, Marjorie, Foxy, Oanny, Newsymaxy, and one zillion of radio stations across the land.
You're confused. The swamp is the permanent bureaucracy in Washington: the likes of Comey, McCabe and Strzok at the FBI, who are supposed to be impartial public servants but are in fact actively working to advance an unpopular leftist-globalist agenda of open borders, critical race theory, feminism, anti-white hatred, thoughtcrime laws, and politically biased prosecutions.

There are many, many more like those three in the upper echelons of govt departments in Washington. They have such a stranglehold that they are able to ensure that only their globo-leftist fellow travelers reach similar positions.

Nobody elects any of these people, and they do not even publicise their political leanings and policy because they know most Americans are opposed to it. And yet they create more rules, regulations and restrictions on Americans and our freedom than do our elected representatives.

A case in point is the recent decree by the CDC that real estate owners no longer have control over who lives in their property. The CDC has no business interfering in the property rights of Americans. The Supreme Court even ruled this unconstitutional, yet it has not been stopped. Literally, an unelected leftist body has started creating unconstitutional communist rules, and these rules are being enforced by the lawless Washington deep state swamp. That is the stuff that foments revolutions.

The swamp is aided by Big Tech in its nefarious, anti-American objectives. Facebook, Twitter and Youtube ban and delist right-wing populist individuals, content and hashtags while pushing and allowing free rein to leftists, in order to attempt to create a false consensus according to their political agenda.

The handful of individuals (minus Lindsay Graham, who is a worthless sellout; swap him for Paul Gosar) and maverick news organizations you mentioned are not the swamp. They are the rag-tag Rebel Alliance. But the amazing and wonderful thing is: they are winning against the Empire.

Chris P
09-05-21, 23:17
Here's the essential point being made:

"A major component of my work has been against racism and its central role as a counterrevolutionary tool and weapon of the capitalist imperialist system, used to polarize the oppressed masses and pit them against each other. It's important that readers grasp from this discussion that racism is and always has been manufactured and manipulated by the establishment (the ruling class and government) as a counterrevolutionary strategy to divide and control the people".The idea that "racism is manufactured" is silly. People naturally organise themselves among their own people. Not only in America. Mass immigration is not popular anywhere. And in situations in which different racial groups are forced to live in proximity, they always choose to live in their own ethnic neighborhoods.

No "capitalist imperialist" is forcing them to do this. They just do it because it is the natural order and they feel more comfortable among their own. As Muhammad Ali said, "blue birds fly with blue birds, red birds fly with red birds".

Chris P
09-05-21, 23:20
Terrible economic news for Biden/Harris came out yesterday? LOL. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-respond-disappointing-jobs-report/story?id=77554168

"Biden responds to disappointing jobs report".

Even the fake news Biden shills are saying it's "disappointing", which means in reality it is disastrous.

Golfinho
09-06-21, 01:57
The idea that "racism is manufactured" is silly. People naturally organise themselves among their own people. Not only in America.
They just do it because it is the natural order and they feel more comfortable among their own. As Muhammad Ali said, "blue birds fly with blue birds, red birds fly with red birds".By that logic, why would you be going to countries with other races, and not flying only with American birds? You do go to places to get laid with women of other races, right? Just sayin'.

EihTooms
09-06-21, 03:15
Absolutely horrendous given the fact that almost all businesses are now back open due to the great success of the vaccines created during the Trump admin. You would think the number would be FAR FAR higher than 235,000 people going back to work since businesses were completely shut down by the virus prior to now.

Job Killer Joe is a disaster in every way.In addition to the outstanding positive jobs creation number, the unemployment rate dropped to a level not seen since March 2020, when the infection and death count for Trump's Pandemic came in alarmingly high and the stock market Crashed into Bear Market territory for the SECOND time under Trump, which panicked him into finally admitting maybe his Pandemic was NOT a "Democrat Party HOAX!" (which he knew since early January). And last month wages grew faster than they have in years.

Either one of those factors would have Trump, his slavish lemming followers and the typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media whacking off each other until they were all drenched in QAnon Repub cum for weeks.

The only thing "disappointing" about it according to the typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media was THEIR predicted estimate for it was way off. Nevermind that their predicted estimate has been way off, up and down, for almost every month of this remarkably successful Biden economic recovery.

Xpartan
09-06-21, 04:15
You're confused. The swamp is the permanent bureaucracy in Washington: the likes of Comey, McCabe and Strzok at the FBIar)Shitload of clinical lunacy SNIPPED.


The handful of individuals (minus Lindsay Graham, who is a worthless sellout; swap him for Paul Gosar) and maverick news organizations you mentioned are not the swamp. They are the rag-tag Rebel Alliance. But the amazing and wonderful thing is: they are winning against the Empire.LOL, so permanent were the likes of Comey and others that your boy went on a personal crusade to get rid of them and DOZENS OF OTHERS who refused to put their tongues too far down his rectum, all with the cheerful "boma ye" from -- what was that -- mavericks and rebels?

Gee, you're hilarious!

EihTooms
09-06-21, 07:01
Why, then, are so many cultists refusing vaccinations? Did the former guy create faulty vaccines? How come the former guy was boo'ed at his recent COVID superspreader event when he suggested that they get vaccinated? You can't have it both ways.

If you want to give the former guy credit for the vaccine then there are only two reasons for being unvaccinated. Either the vaccines that trump created are great and his unvaccinated supporters are ignorant for being unvaccinated or the vaccines that trump created are faulty and his supporters are geniuses because they don't want to take a faulty vaccine. Which one is it?

"almost all businesses are now back open"? What cockamamie BS is that? What is your source for this misinformation? Because the information I find shows nothing of the sort. https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/06/08/kamala-harris-small-business-closures-covid-fact-check/7602531002/ and https://sbecouncil.org/2021/01/21/millions-of-small-businesses-closed-in-2020-the-long-recovery-ahead/.There is a third option for why Trumpsters are refusing to take the vaccines that Trump's cowardice and lies required the world to take in order to control his Pandemic and prevent millions more deaths; Trump started out telling the world it was a "HOAX!" even though he knew it wasn't and then spent almost a year telling the world "This will go away WITHOUT a vaccine!" even though he knew it wouldn't and his slavish cult followers were the primary group on the planet stupid enough to believe him.

Right before he got booed at his self-enriching fund raising rally for finally daring to timidly suggest his numbskull supporters and Biden/Dem-haters ought to get the vaccine that he spent almost a year telling them was unnecessary (if they die, the MAGA checks stop arriving), he publicly asserted the vaccine manufacturers were "schemers" only pushing vaccination shots for the money.

That is how stupid he assumes his supporters are.

Nobody worked harder to create the conditions that required a Warp Speed invention of the vaccines to save millions of lives (using other people's money because, ya' know, he's too smart to pay taxes) while at the same time mocking the proven mitigation efforts and discouraging anyone from even thinking of inventing the vaccines for his Pandemic than so-called potus Donald J. Trump.

Yet he is comfortable in the knowledge that his sucker supporters are too stupid to recognize a con man saying anything at any time no matter how contradictory as long as it keeps the grift money flowing into his pocket.

Just Incognito
09-06-21, 14:08
There is a third option for why Trumpsters are refusing to take the vaccines that Trump's cowardice and lies required the world to take in order to control his Pandemic and prevent millions more deaths; Trump started out telling the world it was a "HOAX!" even though he knew it wasn't and then spent almost a year telling the world "This will go away WITHOUT a vaccine!" even though he knew it wouldn't and his slavish cult followers were the primary group on the planet stupid enough to believe him.

Right before he got booed at his self-enriching fund raising rally for finally daring to timidly suggest his numbskull supporters and Biden/Dem-haters ought to get the vaccine that he spent almost a year telling them was unnecessary (if they die, the MAGA checks stop arriving), he publicly asserted the vaccine manufacturers were "schemers" only pushing vaccination shots for the money.

That is how stupid he assumes his supporters are.

Nobody worked harder to create the conditions that required a Warp Speed invention of the vaccines to save millions of lives (using other people's money because, ya' know, he's too smart to pay taxes) while at the same time mocking the proven mitigation efforts and discouraging anyone from even thinking of inventing the vaccines for his Pandemic than so-called potus Donald J. Trump.

Yet he is comfortable in the knowledge that his sucker supporters are too stupid to recognize a con man saying anything at any time no matter how contradictory as long as it keeps the grift money flowing into his pocket.Operation Warp Speed is a lie!

The USA was the 7th nation to develop a covid vaccine. The other nations did not have trump or 'warp speed'. Its just another lie from republicans. There is and was no such things as 'operation warp speed'. Its just nonsensical propaganda to further fool the cultists of DUmbfuckista.

PVMonger
09-06-21, 16:43
Trump shut down flights from China on January 31 2020. The democrats opposed this, with Pelosi going round telling everyone to hug a Chinaman, and Biden calling it "xenophobic". Would the democrat policy of allowing thousands of covid-infected Chinese to fly into the country daily have.

A) increased.

Or, b) reduced.

The spread of covid? No need for a long-winded answer which nobody will read, just a or be. Thanks.Does closing the barn door after all of the horses have escaped keep any horses in the barn? If you answer that question you'll have the answer to the one you asked.

ScatManDoo
09-06-21, 18:47
Trump shut down flights from China on January 31 2020. The democrats opposed this, with Pelosi going round telling everyone to hug a Chinaman, and Biden calling it "xenophobic". Would the democrat policy of allowing thousands of covid-infected Chinese to fly into the country daily have.

A) increased.

Or, b) reduced.

The spread of covid? No need for a long-winded answer which nobody will read, just a or be. Thanks.The Democrats would not have removed funding from the previous successful pandemic observers that were in place before TrumpShip stupidly removed them.

Was that short enough of an answer?

MarquisdeSade1
09-06-21, 19:09
In addition to the outstanding positive jobs creation number, the unemployment rate dropped to a level not seen since March 2020, when the infection and death count for Trump's Pandemic came in alarmingly high and the stock market Crashed into Bear Market territory for the SECOND time under Trump, which panicked him into finally admitting maybe his Pandemic was NOT a "Democrat Party HOAX!" (which he knew since early January). And last month wages grew faster than they have in years.

Either one of those factors would have Trump, his slavish lemming followers and the typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media whacking off each other until they were all drenched in QAnon Repub cum for weeks.

The only thing "disappointing" about it according to the typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media was THEIR predicted estimate for it was way off. Nevermind that their predicted estimate has been way off, up and down, for almost every month of this remarkably successful Biden economic recovery.A gift to jackoff Joe, from our Lord and Savior aka President Donald J Trump aka bad orange man.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/06/world/americas/mexico-migrants-asylum-border.html

Chris P
09-06-21, 20:04
Does closing the barn door after all of the horses have escaped keep any horses in the barn? If you answer that question you'll have the answer to the one you asked.Your failure to answer the binary question is noted.

It is also nonsensical, as the question refers to January 2020, long before "the horses had escaped". Unless perhaps you are referring to Fauci's funding of the gain of function research in China which caused the virus in the first place.

Chris P
09-06-21, 20:14
In addition to the outstanding positive jobs creation number.https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-respond-disappointing-jobs-report/story?id=77554168 - "Biden responds to disappointing jobs report".

Disappointing everywhere but in EihTooms head I guess. And who knows what's going on in there?

Chris P
09-06-21, 20:31
By that logic, why would you be going to countries with other races, and not flying only with American birds? You do go to places to get laid with women of other races, right? Just sayin'.I sure do, because I find them exciting and exotic, not to mention unspoiled by feminism and entitlement like a lot of American women. But I wouldn't want to live permanently in one of these third world societies.

Anyway, as I (and Muhammad Ali) observed, the reality is that the vast majority of people naturally group together with their own race. This is not because of some outside pressure.

In fact the outside pressure is toward racial integration and racemixing, via Hollywood and media propaganda, Section 8 housing and other govt mandates. But people just don't want to do it. They want to live among their own.

Chris P
09-06-21, 20:38
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/570956-portland-to-vote-to-ban-texas-travel-trade-following-new-abortion-law

"The Portland, Ore., City Council is planning to vote Wednesday on a proposal to ban doing business with the state of Texas following the controversial new abortion restrictions enacted in the Lone Star State."

This is excellent news. As I have been saying, heritage heartland Americans no longer have anything in common with the coastal communists, and we should start making plans to separate from them.

Seems the communists have got the process started.

SouthEaster
09-06-21, 22:02
"But the amazing and wonderful thing is: they are winning against the Empire." Yeah right. If they were winning (your term) you wouldn't be making all this shit up.

PVMonger
09-06-21, 23:24
Your failure to answer the binary question is noted.

It is also nonsensical, as the question refers to January 2020, long before "the horses had escaped". Unless perhaps you are referring to Fauci's funding of the gain of function research in China which caused the virus in the first place.I shouldn't have to explain such a simple concept, but given that you don't know what racism, fascism, communism or socialism means, I guess I have to.

The virus was here before January 2020. Therefore, the time to ban flights from China was before the first case arrived in the US.

Once the first infected person arrived, it was too late to stop the spread. What the orange fruitcake did was close the barn doors (ie stop flights from China) after the horses escaped (ie COVID was already here).

I can't make it any simpler for you.

I realize that trumpers think the former guy's travel bandaid was helpful. It wasn't, but xenophobes (his base) believe that the color of someone's passport matters. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/.

MarquisdeSade1
09-07-21, 00:54
Low IQ leftists don't understand how mass third world immigration hurts American workers and benefits the elite CEO class because they don't understand supply and demand.

They are the same kind of people who supported the women soccer players demands to be paid the same as the men despite the fact that women's soccer generates like 2% of the revenue of men's soccer (hilariously, the case concluded that the women were relatively overpaid already).

As for the second point, when Europeans emigrated to America in the 19th century and before, there was no welfare state and little wealth. It was the European settlers who created all of that out of nothing.

Now third world flunkies break into the country and immediately get housing, food, healthcare and other welfare paid for by the American taxpayer. Those of them who do work benefit from the huge and wealthy American economy created by the earlier European settlers.

None of that existed in the 19th Century and before. It is incredibly ignorant to compare the illegal welfare flunkies currently swarming the border to the settlers who created America.Seems like the movie groundhog day on a loop.

https://amgreatness.com/2021/09/01/importing-enemies/

Importing enemies? The DNC loves importing enemies of this country, they know who they will vote for on election day.

Chris P
09-07-21, 01:02
The Democrats would not have removed funding from the previous successful pandemic observers that were in place before TrumpShip stupidly removed them.

Was that short enough of an answer?No. The options were a or b. Try again.

Chris P
09-07-21, 01:07
A gift to jackoff Joe, from our Lord and Savior aka President Donald J Trump aka bad orange man.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/06/world/americas/mexico-migrants-asylum-border.htmlIndeed. Trump's deal with Mexico to keep the illegals there was a masterstroke. One which was torn up by the America-hating dems, who just want to flood the country with third world detritus (and they are detritus: the ones who are too useless to get by in their own countries so they have to break into the gringo welfare state) in order to help perpetuate their next election fraud.

Chris P
09-07-21, 01:26
The virus was here before January 2020. Therefore, the time to ban flights from China was before the first case arrived in the US.Then why were Pelosi, Biden and the rest of the democrats opposed to banning flights in January 2020?

You seem to be saying that if the US had permitted flights to continue coming in from the source of the pandemic in its early stages, it wouldn't have led to greater covid numbers in America. That is simply too idiotic for words, and a good indicator of the insane level of your Trump Derangement Syndrome.

What actually happened was Trump's swift travel ban (in the face of the usual dem / fake news screeching about "racism" or some other nonsense) bought the country some time. In that time, Trump pushed hard for Operation Warpspeed, which developed vaccines in record time, and saved the lives of many vulnerable people.

For an indication of the planning and organizational capabilities of Biden's handlers, we can look at Afghanistan. Had Sleepy Joe or Glassface Nancy been in charge, their covid response would have been equally catastrophic and humiliating.

Golfinho
09-07-21, 02:44
I sure do, because I find them exciting and exotic, not to mention unspoiled by feminism and entitlement like a lot of American women. But I wouldn't want to live permanently in one of these third world societies.

Anyway, as I (and Muhammad Ali) observed, the reality is that the vast majority of people naturally group together with their own race.That's great that you sure do. You're entitled to it. We'll look forward to reading your reports of your exciting and exotic experiences. By the way, where are they?

Cassius Clay on naturally grouping together while he converts to Muslim. Too funny.

MarquisdeSade1
09-07-21, 04:20
Indeed. Trump's deal with Mexico to keep the illegals there was a masterstroke. One which was torn up by the America-hating dems, who just want to flood the country with third world detritus (and they are detritus: the ones who are too useless to get by in their own countries so they have to break into the gringo welfare state) in order to help perpetuate their next election fraud.The ACLU and Nutty Nancy et al, all shit themselves screaming you racist monster, now Dementia Joey will use the policy to keep them in Mexico for his benefit and you won't hear anything from those.

ScatManDoo
09-07-21, 04:30
The virus was here before January 2020. Therefore, the time to ban flights from China was before the first case arrived in the US.

Once the first infected person arrived, it was too late to stop the spread. What the orange fruitcake did was close the barn doors (ie stop flights from China) after the horses escaped (ie COVID was already here).

I can't make it any simpler for you.
Then why were Pelosi, Biden and the rest of the democrats opposed to banning flights in January 2020?

You seem to be saying that if the US had permitted flights to continue coming in from the source of the pandemic in its early stages, it wouldn't have led to greater covid numbers in America. That is simply too idiotic for words, and a good indicator of the insane level of your Trump Derangement Syndrome.

What actually happened was Trump's swift travel ban (in the face of the usual dem / fake news screeching about "racism" or some other nonsense) bought the country some time. In that time, Trump pushed hard for Operation Warpspeed, which developed vaccines in record time, and saved the lives of many vulnerable people.

For an indication of the planning and organizational capabilities of Biden's handlers, we can look at Afghanistan. Had Sleepy Joe or Glassface Nancy been in charge, their covid response would have been equally catastrophic and humiliating.TrumpShit had removed our (on the ground) medical pandemic observers in 2018.

We have now looked over Air Force surveillance pictures that show the swelling and overflowing of cars in parking lots of numerous hospitals in and around Wuhan China in September and October of 2019.

The world-wide observers that Obama and the Democrats funded and put in place during the first half of the decade would likely have identified the pandemic and contain it (as they did others).

TrumpShit claimed initially that China was fully co-operating and transparent.

MarquisdeSade1
09-07-21, 04:35
By that logic, why would you be going to countries with other races, and not flying only with American birds? You do go to places to get laid with women of other races, right? Just sayin'.Are you suggesting that people that would like to protect their cultural identity, their national identity, some value to their citizenship, the sovereignty of their nation, their national character and values.

Should what? Only eat American food and never travel overseas etc? That's some childish logic you have there.

I'm against illegals flooding the USA labor market with cheap labor for the benefit of Bezos, does that mean I can't eat at Taco Bell according to your logic?

I believe Bernie Sanders said in approx 2016 in an interview that open borders are evil.

He went on to say they are a gift to the Koch Brothers and Mitt Romney et al.

Is Bernie Sanders a spin off of Hitler? They are both Jewish but that's a bit of a stretch dontcha think?

MarquisdeSade1
09-07-21, 04:39
That's great that you sure do. You're entitled to it. We'll look forward to reading your reports of your exciting and exotic experiences. By the way, where are they?

Cassius Clay on naturally grouping together while he converts to Muslim. Too funny.I pretty sure you meant Islam, but I digress.

Islam is not a race so you point is a bit confusing?

Do you know how many black Muslims are in Chicago? Ever hear of Nation of Islam?

Ever hear of Louis the anti Semite Farrahkhan? A militant Democrat!

Do you have any idea how many blacks in Afrika are Muslims?

MarquisdeSade1
09-07-21, 05:21
https://amgreatness.com/2021/09/06/joe-biden-is-a-total-failure/

Xpartan
09-07-21, 06:28
Indeed. Trump's deal with Mexico to keep the illegals there was a masterstroke. What? Now that's way off. Everyone knows his masterstroke was making Mexico pay for his beautiful, impenetrable wall we're all enjoying so much.

Travv
09-07-21, 06:37
Washington, the. See. —Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has announced Congress will be taking action immediately as the situation in Afghanistan rapidly deteriorates. To hold those responsible for the evacuation debacle, Congress will consider articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump.

"Good morning, Thursday morning," Pelosi said during a press conference this morning, which was Thursday morning. "We're facing a dire situation in Afghanistan, and that means we as Congress need to do our duty to hold those responsible accountable for their horrible, horrible actions. That's why, effective immediately, I'm introducing articles of impeachment against the president. President Donald Trump. "

Pelosi says Trump being impeached a third time won't actually accomplish anything. But, she says, it will send a clear message to Trump that she doesn't like him, which is the important thing. "he didn't get the message the first two times," she said. "Now the world will know for sure that the orange man truly is bad. "

"The walls are closing in. We got him this time."

Trump says he welcomes the impeachment as he will be the first president in the history of the world to be acquitted three times. "That's huge!" he said, addressing his supporters on the few social networks that have not yet banned him. "Sleepy Joe hasn't even been acquitted once. Sad and pathetic!


What? Now that's way off. Everyone knows his masterstroke was making Mexico pay for his beautiful, impenetrable wall we're all enjoying so much.

EihTooms
09-07-21, 11:57
Then why were Pelosi, Biden and the rest of the democrats opposed to banning flights in January 2020?
...Glad you asked. For one thing, in early Janurary 2020 the so-called potus, who the world should assume is getting the best and most accurate intel on this as well as other matters of serious importance (which he did), was just beginning to lie to you, me, Pelosi, Biden, Fauci, well, the entire world except those also in the know in China (that would be NO CDC monitors, who Trump defunded and removed from those Chinese labs in 2018 against all expert advice and dire warnings not to do something so foolhardy and stupid) that, "It's a Democrat Party HOAX! We've got this under control! There is only one case out of China, 15 here and soon that will be close to zero! This will disappear like in a dream!", etc, etc, etc.

Weren't you paying attention to your guy back then?

Hardly a reason to start demanding worldwide travel restrictions, refusing to hug anyone, requiring everyone to wear a mask and so on, wouldn't you say?

Unfortunately, what the world has since learned is that was a fine and dandy way for a so-called potus to convert a likely manageable endemic in Wuhan into the deadly, worldwide economy-destroying Pandemic it became.

Trump's Pandemic, to be be exact and give credit where credit is well earned and due.

EihTooms
09-07-21, 12:33
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-respond-disappointing-jobs-report/story?id=77554168 - "Biden responds to disappointing jobs report".

Disappointing everywhere but in EihTooms head I guess. And who knows what's going on in there?I submit that any month that does not add the 5-6 MILLION USA Jobs that have still not been recovered from Trump's Great Repub Crash, Recession and Massive USA Jobs Destruction is "disappointing." I mean, as long as we're wishing and pulling prediction estimates out of our ass.

But the 235,000+ number is only "disappointing" compared to some economists' prediction estimates that Mainstream Media published.

Biden didn't say, "We're going to add 750,000 jobs in August!"Just some economists that have been way off, up and down, for every month of Biden's historic jobs creation economic recovery made that prediction. So what?

And how they pulled that kind of high number out of their ass for August at a time when the DeSantis Variant of Trump's Pandemic Virus Among Anti-Science, Anti-Vax Trumpsters was driving job applicants away from the hospitality and leisure industry in droves is a mystery.

PVMonger
09-07-21, 13:54
Then why were Pelosi, Biden and the rest of the democrats opposed to banning flights in January 2020?

You seem to be saying that if the US had permitted flights to continue coming in from the source of the pandemic in its early stages, it wouldn't have led to greater covid numbers in America. That is simply too idiotic for words, and a good indicator of the insane level of your Trump Derangement Syndrome.

What actually happened was Trump's swift travel ban (in the face of the usual dem / fake news screeching about "racism" or some other nonsense) bought the country some time. In that time, Trump pushed hard for Operation Warpspeed, which developed vaccines in record time, and saved the lives of many vulnerable people.

For an indication of the planning and organizational capabilities of Biden's handlers, we can look at Afghanistan. Had Sleepy Joe or Glassface Nancy been in charge, their covid response would have been equally catastrophic and humiliating.I provided you a link. You obviously didn't read it, so here it is again. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/.

The former guy restricted non-US citizens. He didn't restrict Americans coming from China. Here's a quote from the article above: "We don't have a travel ban," Klain said. "We have a travel Band-Aid right now. First, before it was imposed, 300,000 people came here from China in the previous month. So, the horse is out of the barn."

"There's no restriction on Americans going back and forth," Klain said. "There are warnings. People should abide by those warnings. But today, 30 planes will land in Los Angeles that either originated in Beijing or came here on one-stops, 30 in San Francisco, 25 in New York City. Okay? So, unless we think that the color of the passport someone carries is a meaningful public health restriction, we have not placed a meaningful public health restriction."

The last sentence is why Democrats were against the former guy's restrictions. That's what fascists don't understand, that the color of someone's passport isn't an indication of harboring COVID. "Let's let Americans travel back-and-forth from China, let's let in multi-stop flights that may have originated in China and let's not stop any ships carrying Chinese goods, but by all means let's stop Chinese from coming." Yep, that sounds like orange policy.

And thanks for bringing up the former guy's vaccines again. Are unvaccinated Republicans smart for not taking the bad vaccines trump developed? Or stupid for not taking a good vaccine? Which is it?

PVMonger
09-07-21, 14:15
I sure do, because I find them exciting and exotic, not to mention unspoiled by feminism and entitlement like a lot of American women. But I wouldn't want to live permanently in one of these third world societies.

Anyway, as I (and Muhammad Ali) observed, the reality is that the vast majority of people naturally group together with their own race. This is not because of some outside pressure.

In fact the outside pressure is toward racial integration and racemixing, via Hollywood and media propaganda, Section 8 housing and other govt mandates. But people just don't want to do it. They want to live among their own.People wanting to live with others that look, speak and act like them is not racism. Maybe one day you'll understand that.

Chris P
09-07-21, 14:22
Glad you asked. For one thing, in early Janurary 2020 the so-called potus, who the world should assume is getting the best and most accurate intel on this as well as other matters of serious importance (which he did), was just beginning to lie to you, me, PelosiThe Speaker of the House receives the same intel as the President. Why, then, when Trump was stopping flights from the covid outbreak in China, was Pelosi criticizing him for it and telling everyone to hug a Chinaman?

To return to the original question which has yet to be answered, if Pelosi and the Democrats' demands to continue flights from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been.

A. more.

Or be. Less.

Covid in the United States?

Chris P
09-07-21, 14:25
Seems like the movie groundhog day on a loop.

https://amgreatness.com/2021/09/01/importing-enemies/

Importing enemies? The DNC loves importing enemies of this country, they know who they will vote for on election day.Yup. In fact they don't need to vote at all; democrat operatives will fill in the ballot for them. And a few hundred thousand others.

Travv
09-07-21, 17:10
Washington, DC—A sorrowful President Biden expressed deep sadness over the horrific tragedy consuming Afghanistan, wishing only that there was something the President of the United States could have possibly done.

"I've been wracking my brain for hours, ever since I beat Rainbow Road, trying to think of something, anything, that the President could have done," said President Biden. "It is such a helpless feeling, ya know? Sitting there, just watching ruthless terrorists murder people we promised to help. I got this message from a general saying people who helped interpret for our soldiers were going to be executed and I thought. Wow, that's so sad! Why are you bumming me out when there is nothing I can do about this?

In a surprising move given his high character and decency, President Biden has shirked all responsibility and laid blame for the Afghanistan debacle at the feet of President Trump. Per Biden's 'Rules Of Blame', since Trump had planned to withdraw from Afghanistan. And called no take-backs. Any resulting carnage from the withdrawal, even if done in the most unbelievably heinous, idiotic way imaginable, would be Trump's fault.

"I can hardly believe what I'm hearing. Withdrew the military before ensuring USA Citizens were taken care of?" said a despondent Biden. "And the system to take care of local allies crashed? Bases were abandoned so fast that lots of weapons fell into the hands of the Taliban? It's enough to make you sick to your stomach. I'm talking triple-scoop mint chocolate kind of sick. But you know, it is what is. My hands are tied. Welp, anyone up for the Star Cup? 150 CC?

ScatManDoo
09-07-21, 18:07
The Speaker of the House receives the same intel as the President. Why, then, when Trump was stopping flights from the covid outbreak in China, was Pelosi criticizing him for it and telling everyone to hug a Chinaman?

To return to the original question which has yet to be answered, if Pelosi and the Democrats' demands to continue flights from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been.

A. more.

Or be. Less.

Covid in the United States?There might have been no Covid-19 ever in the United States if TrumpShit had not removed the medical observers Obama had already smartly put in place.

Instead China suckered TrumpShit initially.

EihTooms
09-07-21, 19:16
The Speaker of the House receives the same intel as the President. Why, then, when Trump was stopping flights from the covid outbreak in China, was Pelosi criticizing him for it and telling everyone to hug a Chinaman?

To return to the original question which has yet to be answered, if Pelosi and the Democrats' demands to continue flights from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been.

A. more.

Or be. Less.

Covid in the United States?First of all, virtually everything you have asserted about Pelosi re China and Chinatown is false, simply parroting the lies Trump told about it originally:

Trumps False Claims about Pelosi and Chinatown
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trumps-false-claims-about-pelosi-and-chinatown/

Second, please post a link supporting your suggestion that Nancy Pelosi received the same intel about the reality of the virus in China the same time Trump did.

The Speaker would get it officially, but not necessarily at the same time and not if a so-called potus is informed about it by another head of state "off the record" with no notes taken or kept.

United States Intelligence Community Oversight
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community_Oversight

Access to information

The White House has the power to control information classification, and even withhold access to information and operational details from certain members of Congress. In this way, the executive branch can directly control what Congress can or cannot see, indirectly influencing the legislative branch's overall ability to make decisions. Thus, despite members of the Intelligence Committees and their staffs holding appropriate security clearances, they may sometimes only have a limited view into specific intelligence activities. Though the National Security Act of 1947 states that Congress must be kept "fully informed" of significant intelligence activities, many Presidents have interpreted this clause to mean they only need to notify the "Gang of Eight" rather than the full membership of the congressional intelligence committees. The Gang of Eight consists of the Senate Majority and Minority Leaders, the Speaker and Majority Leader of the House, and the Chairs and ranking members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees. Veto Power:
...

Trump got intel on it in a PDB as early as January 3, 2020 and tried to float the lie that he was not told about it until late January. And he was in communication with Xi in January. Was Pelosi privy to everything he was told then?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/03/politics/trump-coronavirus-us-intelligence/index.html

Recorded on audio, Trump admitted to Woodward that he lied about the seriousness of the virus from the beginning. It would be TOTALLY unlike him not to have said to Woodward and everyone else that, "Hey, Nancy Pelosi knew all about it too, everything I knew and at the same time! She misled America, NOT ME!?", if that were even remotely true.

But he didn't.

Woodward book: Trump says he knew coronavirus was deadly and worse than the flu while intentionally misleading Americans
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bob-woodward-rage-book-trump/2020/09/09/0368fe3c-efd2-11ea-b4bc-3a2098fc73d4_story.html

My god. There is zero evidence that the Speaker of the House was in on the same shit-slinging page Trump was on regarding the known seriousness of the virus. Not even the Repub members of the Gang of Eight have made that claim. Hell, Trump was out there thanking Xi for his help and "transparancy."
https://www.vox.com/2020/4/12/21218305/trump-ignored-coronavirus-warnings

PVMonger
09-07-21, 19:25
The Speaker of the House receives the same intel as the President. Why, then, when Trump was stopping flights from the covid outbreak in China, was Pelosi criticizing him for it and telling everyone to hug a Chinaman?

To return to the original question which has yet to be answered, if Pelosi and the Democrats' demands to continue flights from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been.

A. more.

Or be. Less.

Covid in the United States?Here is the link once more: https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/ Read it this time and try to keep up.

What the former guy did was xenophobic and nothing more. Did he restrict Americans from traveling to / from China? Nope. Did he restrict any flights that might have contained travelers who were in China in the prior 2 weeks? Nope. Did he restrict any cargo ships that might have stopped in China? Nope. Did he do anything but ban people with Chinese passports? Nope. That's why it was xenophobic.

If you take all of the above together, the former guy's restrictions did nothing in the long run. He banned people carrying Chinese passports and welcomed every Tom, Dick and Harry who might be infected into the country.

But since that's all the cult has, I can see why they beat that dead horse.

PVMonger
09-07-21, 19:35
Washington, DCA sorrowful President Biden expressed deep sadness over the horrific tragedy consuming Afghanistan, wishing only that there was something the President of the United States could have possibly done.

"I've been wracking my brain for hours, ever since I beat Rainbow Road, trying to think of something, anything, that the President could have done," said President Biden. "It is such a helpless feeling, ya know? Sitting there, just watching ruthless terrorists murder people we promised to help. I got this message from a general saying people who helped interpret for our soldiers were going to be executed and I thought. Wow, that's so sad! Why are you bumming me out when there is nothing I can do about this?

In a surprising move given his high character and decency, President Biden has shirked all responsibility and laid blame for the Afghanistan debacle at the feet of President Trump. Per Biden's 'Rules Of Blame', since Trump had planned to withdraw from Afghanistan. And called no take-backs. Any resulting carnage from the withdrawal, even if done in the most unbelievably heinous, idiotic way imaginable, would be Trump's fault.

"I can hardly believe what I'm hearing. Withdrew the military before ensuring USA Citizens were taken care of?" said a despondent Biden. "And the system to take care of local allies crashed? Bases were abandoned so fast that lots of weapons fell into the hands of the Taliban? It's enough to make you sick to your stomach. I'm talking triple-scoop mint chocolate kind of sick. But you know, it is what is. My hands are tied. Welp, anyone up for the Star Cup? 150 CC?At least Chamberlain secured a deal with Der Fuhrer to not take any more territory. The former guy's surrender agreement to the Taliban didn't even do that.

Chris P
09-07-21, 20:08
The former guy restricted non-US citizens. He didn't restrict Americans coming from China.Nobody can prevent Americans from returning to their home country, you fruitloop. The majority of people who fly from China to US are not US citizens; Trump prevented all non-citizens from flying from the covid outbreak source in January 2020. Glassface Nancy and Sleepy Joe criticized his action, telling Americans to hug a Chinaman and calling him "xenophobic".

If the Democrats' demands to continue permitting entry to non-citizens from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been:

A. more.

Or b. Less.

Covid in the United States?

EihTooms
09-07-21, 20:48
Washington, DCA sorrowful President Biden expressed deep sadness over the horrific tragedy consuming Afghanistan, wishing only that there was something the President of the United States could have possibly done.

"I've been wracking my brain for hours, ever since I beat Rainbow Road, trying to think of something, anything, that the President could have done," said President Biden. "It is such a helpless feeling, ya know? Sitting there, just watching ruthless terrorists murder people we promised to help. I got this message from a general saying people who helped interpret for our soldiers were going to be executed and I thought. Wow, that's so sad! Why are you bumming me out when there is nothing I can do about this?

In a surprising move given his high character and decency, President Biden has shirked all responsibility and laid blame for the Afghanistan debacle at the feet of President Trump. Per Biden's 'Rules Of Blame', since Trump had planned to withdraw from Afghanistan. And called no take-backs. Any resulting carnage from the withdrawal, even if done in the most unbelievably heinous, idiotic way imaginable, would be Trump's fault.

"I can hardly believe what I'm hearing. Withdrew the military before ensuring USA Citizens were taken care of?" said a despondent Biden. "And the system to take care of local allies crashed? Bases were abandoned so fast that lots of weapons fell into the hands of the Taliban? It's enough to make you sick to your stomach. I'm talking triple-scoop mint chocolate kind of sick. But you know, it is what is. My hands are tied. Welp, anyone up for the Star Cup? 150 CC?Well, gee, I guess Biden could have sent a "surge" of USA Troops back into Afghanistan with the provision that we stay there another 20 years, while terrorist acts were committed in that country as they have all along anyway. I'm pretty sure they would have seen that as a fresh new invasion and occupation of their country considering the provision THEY agreed to with Trump was for us to get the fuck out lock stock and barrel by whatever date suited them.

Um...the only carnage, including American deaths and other casualties that occurred during Biden's exceedingly well managed withdrawal by the Losing Side of a war by any and every historical standard, was from the suicide bomber who in all likelihood came from among the 5,000 dangerous terrorist prisoners that Trump agreed to release last year. A decision that even the Taliban now admits was a mistake.

I'm guessing Biden would have warned them what a mistake that would be and done everything possible to talk them out of it. There is no evidence that any such thing occurred to Trump at the time while he was buckling at the feet of his victors.

You know, after 3 attempts by the British, one attempt by Russia and one attempt by the USA over the past 150 years or so to save the innocent people of Afghanistan from their own culture and society, I'm kind of past this being some humiliating defeat for the rest of us. I am fine with seeing it as a humiliating defeat, lack of will and interest in being saved from anything on the part of the Afghans who live there.

Yep, even the women. Surely at some point after those male babies pop out of their womb there must be more than a few opportunities for the mothers to admonish and instruct their baby boys not to treat women like shit. That is, if that is really the way the majority of Afghan women see it.

Xpartan
09-07-21, 21:04
Washington, DCA sorrowful President Biden expressed deep sadness over the horrific tragedy consuming Afghanistan, wishing only that there was something the President of the United States could have possibly done.

"I've been wracking my brain for hours, ever since I beat Rainbow Road, trying to think of something, anything, that the President could have done," said President Biden. "It is such a helpless feeling, ya know? Sitting there, just watching ruthless terrorists murder people we promised to help. I got this message from a general saying people who helped interpret for our soldiers were going to be executed and I thought. Wow, that's so sad! Why are you bumming me out when there is nothing I can do about this?

In a surprising move given his high character and decency, President Biden has shirked all responsibility and laid blame for the Afghanistan debacle at the feet of President Trump. Per Biden's 'Rules Of Blame', since Trump had planned to withdraw from Afghanistan. And called no take-backs. Any resulting carnage from the withdrawal, even if done in the most unbelievably heinous, idiotic way imaginable, would be Trump's fault.

"I can hardly believe what I'm hearing. Withdrew the military before ensuring USA Citizens were taken care of?" said a despondent Biden. "And the system to take care of local allies crashed? Bases were abandoned so fast that lots of weapons fell into the hands of the Taliban? It's enough to make you sick to your stomach. I'm talking triple-scoop mint chocolate kind of sick. But you know, it is what is. My hands are tied. Welp, anyone up for the Star Cup? 150 CC?My only qualm with your comedy, bud, (other than your misuse of original material), is being too easy on Sleepy Joe. Why does no one hold him responsible for negotiating with terrorists, for sending Pompeo for the photo op with Taliban, for moving aside the Afghan government as if it didn't even existed, for signing on a terrible deal that contained no guarantees, no verification clauses, and no denunciation of al-Qaeda, finally for removing troops so speedily that they didn't have time to take with or destroy the military equipment that promptly fell into the enemy hands?

Anyone who's saying that Sleepy Joe didn't totally drop the ball in 2020 is delusional. Imagine if the Artist of the Deal was in power at the time! He surely would've done things right from the get-go.

Just Incognito
09-07-21, 21:14
I shouldn't have to explain such a simple concept, but given that you don't know what racism, fascism, communism or socialism means, I guess I have to.

The virus was here before January 2020. Therefore, the time to ban flights from China was before the first case arrived in the US.

Once the first infected person arrived, it was too late to stop the spread. What the orange fruitcake did was close the barn doors (ie stop flights from China) after the horses escaped (ie COVID was already here).

I can't make it any simpler for you.

I realize that trumpers think the former guy's travel bandaid was helpful. It wasn't, but xenophobes (his base) believe that the color of someone's passport matters. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/.The USA was the 30th country to shut flights from China. 30th!

And nobody in the trump admin thought anyone was flying from China to other places, like Europe before coming to the USA? Trump didn't think anyone was in China then in Europe infecting Europeans who then came to the USA (that's how it started in New York area)?

The 'I shut flights I am trump I am the bestest ever!' logic is so stupid! The USA was 30th! Not first--30th to shut flights with China--and we didn't shut flights with anyone else! Trumps idiots didn't divert all people who had been in China to certain airports for screening-like Obama did with ebola) and trumps people had no plan for the airports themselves-repatriating Americans became a super spread event and it didn't have to!

Trump failed. 75% of the worlds failures with the pandemic come from trump and the republicans! 20% is on China. And the ret is tidbits scattered around the globe.

But the US was the world leader and trump and his minions failed 100% failed. They lied, millions died.

Shame on anyone who supports trump and is incompetence and his corruption.

Chris P
09-07-21, 23:29
It's enough to make you sick to your stomach. I'm talking triple-scoop mint chocolate kind of sick. But you know, it is what is. My hands are tied. Welp, anyone up for the Star Cup? 150 CC?Did you see the photo of the Taliban trolling Biden by eating ice cream? They owned him online as well as in real life.

MarquisdeSade1
09-08-21, 00:25
Nobody can prevent Americans from returning to their home country, you fruitloop. The majority of people who fly from China to US are not US citizens; Trump prevented all non-citizens from flying from the covid outbreak source in January 2020. Glassface Nancy and Sleepy Joe criticized his action, telling Americans to hug a Chinaman and calling him "xenophobic".

If the Democrats' demands to continue permitting entry to non-citizens from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been:

A. more.

Or b. Less.

Covid in the United States?https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/09/we-cant-let-foreign-influence-compromise-our-universities/

ScatManDoo
09-08-21, 00:57
The USA was the 30th country to shut flights from China. 30th!

And nobody in the trump admin thought anyone was flying from China to other places, like Europe before coming to the USA? Trump didn't think anyone was in China then in Europe infecting Europeans who then came to the USA (that's how it started in New York area)?

The 'I shut flights I am trump I am the bestest ever!' logic is so stupid! The USA was 30th! Not first--30th to shut flights with China--and we didn't shut flights with anyone else! Trumps idiots didn't divert all people who had been in China to certain airports for screening-like Obama did with ebola) and trumps people had no plan for the airports themselves-repatriating Americans became a super spread event and it didn't have to!

Trump failed. 75% of the worlds failures with the pandemic come from trump and the republicans! 20% is on China. And the ret is tidbits scattered around the globe.

But the US was the world leader and trump and his minions failed 100% failed. They lied, millions died.

Shame on anyone who supports trump and is incompetence and his corruption.Hillary would have save the United States, the world, and millions of jobs.

Cause that's what Democrats do. And Republicans fail at.

PVMonger
09-08-21, 04:34
Nobody can prevent Americans from returning to their home country, you fruitloop. The majority of people who fly from China to US are not US citizens; Trump prevented all non-citizens from flying from the covid outbreak source in January 2020. Glassface Nancy and Sleepy Joe criticized his action, telling Americans to hug a Chinaman and calling him "xenophobic".

If the Democrats' demands to continue permitting entry to non-citizens from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been:

A. more.

Or b. Less.

Covid in the United States?"Nobody can prevent Americans from returning to their home country" Actually, your god proposed exactly that.

" Trump prevented all non-citizens from flying from the covid outbreak source in January 2020. This is absolutely false. Just because you think it happened doesn't make it so. Here's the link for the following quote: https://apnews.com/article/asia-pacific-anthony-fauci-pandemics-politics-ap-fact-check-d227b34b168e576bf5068b92a03c003d Unfortunately you won't read it. "The USA Restrictions that took effect Feb. 2 continued to allow travel to the USA From China's Hong Kong and Macao territories over the past five months. The Associated Press reported that more than 8,000 Chinese and foreign nationals based in those territories entered the USA In the first three months after the travel restrictions were imposed. Additionally, more than 27,000 Americans returned from mainland China in the first month after the restrictions took effect. USA Officials lost track of more than 1,600 of them who were supposed to be monitored for virus exposure. ".

If I were a teacher, I'd have you write on the blackboard a thousand times: "Trump is a xenophobe". I'd even make you memorize the meaning.

Travv
09-08-21, 08:15
"Washington, DC Several prominent Republicans came forward this week to call for the impeachment or resignation of whoever on earth is telling Biden what to do every day.

"I think it's clear at this point that the person controlling Biden —and telling him what to do and say every moment—is completely incompetent," said Republican Representative Bob McCobb. "We're not really sure who that is, but they need to be impeached immediately. They suck."

Americans increasingly agree with this sentiment, as recent polls revealed record-low approval ratings for whoever that person is who is pulling the strings of the barely sentient President Biden every day.

"Seriously, can he find a person who can put better words in his mouth and tell him better decisions to make?" said one Ohio voter who agreed to be interviewed.

Biden responded to the attacks, saying "The notion that someone is controlling me and telling me what to say and what to do and chewing my food and changing my diapers is absolutely ridiculous. But that's all I'm allowed to say right now."

Chris P
09-08-21, 13:50
Hillary would have save the United States, the world, and millions of jobs.

Cause that's what Democrats do. And Republicans fail at.Still no answer. A or b?

PVMonger
09-08-21, 15:54
Did you see the photo of the Taliban trolling Biden by eating ice cream? They owned him online as well as in real life.Did the Taliban post the photo? No, they didn't. Therefore it is just a photo and only wingers think differently.

ScatManDoo
09-08-21, 18:58
Did the Taliban post the photo? No, they didn't. Therefore it is just a photo and only wingers think differently.I gave the correct answer.

ScatManDoo
09-08-21, 19:55
Still no answer. A or b?I gave the correct answer to your question repeatedly.

Chris P
09-08-21, 20:09
Did the Taliban post the photo? No, they didn't. Therefore it is just a photo and only wingers think differently.What on earth are you gibbering about? Taliban fighters posed for a photo eating ice cream to mock the US (former vice) president whom they had just defeated, given the tendency of him and his fake news media shills to promote photos of him eating ice cream. We all remember the hard-hitting questions they asked Biden on the rare occasion his handlers let him out of the basement during the election campaign: "what flavor have you got, Joe?

So much embarrassment for America on so many levels.

PVMonger
09-08-21, 20:10
The Speaker of the House receives the same intel as the President. Why, then, when Trump was stopping flights from the covid outbreak in China, was Pelosi criticizing him for it and telling everyone to hug a Chinaman?

To return to the original question which has yet to be answered, if Pelosi and the Democrats' demands to continue flights from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been.

A. more.

Or be. Less.

Covid in the United States?If the orange fruitcake hadn't lied about COVID from the get-go, would there be:

A. more US deaths from COVID; or.

B. Fewer US deaths from COVID?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/10/us-coronavirus-response-donald-trump-health-policy

If the orange fruitcake's vaccines are so good, how come 30% of his cult won't take them because they are afraid of what's in the vaccine?

If the orange fruitcake wouldn't have politicized masks, would there be:

A. more US deaths from COVID; or.

Be. Fewer US deaths from COVID?

https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/do-face-masks-work-here-are-49-scientific-studies-that-explain-why-they-do/

Smoothy
09-08-21, 20:17
Did you see the photo of the Taliban trolling Biden by eating ice cream? They owned him online as well as in real life.The Taliban own not only the Biden admin, but the entire Democrat party and their baijuo ignorance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baizuo

Chris P
09-08-21, 20:18
"Nobody can prevent Americans from returning to their home country" Actually, your god proposed exactly that.

" Trump prevented all non-citizens from flying from the covid outbreak source in January 2020. This is absolutely false.First you criticized him because US citizens were able to fly home from China, now you criticize him for supposedly looking at preventing it. Make your mind up. Actually never mind, you already have: Trump Derangement Syndrome, whereby every single thing Trump does must be bad regardless of whether it contradicts something you said five minutes before.

And Hong Kong and Macau are not part of China. They are separate territories with separate governing systems. Furthermore they are far from the outbreak source of Wuhan and have only 0. 5% of the population of China, statistically insignificant.

Trump blocked flights from China for all non-US citizens in January. In response, Pelosi and Biden criticized the move, calling it "xenophobic", telling people to hug Chinamen, and demanding that the flights be reopened and thousands of Chinese from Wuhan be allowed into the US.

If the democrat demand to reopen flights to the US from Wuhan had been implemented, would there have been.

A. more.

Or b. Less.

Covid in the US?

PVMonger
09-08-21, 20:59
"Washington, DC Several prominent Republicans came forward this week to call for the impeachment or resignation of whoever on earth is telling Biden what to do every day.

"I think it's clear at this point that the person controlling Biden and telling him what to do and say every momentis completely incompetent," said Republican Representative Bob McCobb. "We're not really sure who that is, but they need to be impeached immediately. They suck."

Americans increasingly agree with this sentiment, as recent polls revealed record-low approval ratings for whoever that person is who is pulling the strings of the barely sentient President Biden every day.

"Seriously, can he find a person who can put better words in his mouth and tell him better decisions to make?" said one Ohio voter who agreed to be interviewed.

Biden responded to the attacks, saying "The notion that someone is controlling me and telling me what to say and what to do and chewing my food and changing my diapers is absolutely ridiculous. But that's all I'm allowed to say right now."Republican politicians couldn't even begin to figure that out. After all, these geniuses sent a cease-and-desist letter to someone who isn't even Yahoo's CEO any more. https://www.mediaite.com/politics/house-republicans-send-letter-to-yahoo-addressed-to-ceo-marissa-mayer-who-left-company-in-2017/.

The only thing they are good for is kissing the mango Mussolini's oddly shaped (according to Stormy) wee-wee.

Travv
09-09-21, 00:04
Washington, DC President Joe Biden today announced that his administration will be helping the hostages trapped in Afghanistan after all, once it was revealed that a world-renowned McDonald's ice cream machine repairman was one of the captives.

Biden announced in a speech that he would stop at nothing to save the hostages, reversing the administration's previous policy of just saying "eh whatever" to Americans trapped in a foreign country.

"We will not rest. We will not falter. We will not fail," Biden said sternly after learning the McFlurry repair guy was trapped on a plane at the airport in Kabul. "We will do anything we need to do to get this guy out. " Reporters and commentators said that Biden appeared more lucid, focused, and charismatic than he's been in the past 20 years. "If we need to send in every last American soldier, we will do so. We'll start a new war if we have to. We'll pull out all the stops. "

With tears in his eyes, Biden made a personal, impassioned address to the McFlurry repairman. "We're pulling for you. We're praying for you. You are not alone. We will not abandon you in your time of need. America does not leave anyone behind—not when ice cream is on the line."


I gave the correct answer.

EihTooms
09-09-21, 01:20
"Washington, DC Several prominent Republicans came forward this week to call for the impeachment or resignation of whoever on earth is telling Biden what to do every day.

"I think it's clear at this point that the person controlling Biden and telling him what to do and say every momentis completely incompetent," said Republican Representative Bob McCobb. "We're not really sure who that is, but they need to be impeached immediately. They suck."

Americans increasingly agree with this sentiment, as recent polls revealed record-low approval ratings for whoever that person is who is pulling the strings of the barely sentient President Biden every day.

"Seriously, can he find a person who can put better words in his mouth and tell him better decisions to make?" said one Ohio voter who agreed to be interviewed.

Biden responded to the attacks, saying "The notion that someone is controlling me and telling me what to say and what to do and chewing my food and changing my diapers is absolutely ridiculous. But that's all I'm allowed to say right now."Biden's poll ratings now are no lower within a normal MoE than Trump's were at the height of his "approval" during all 4 years of his godawful so-called presidency and virtually every Repub insisted we toss out American democracy and he be made President For Life.

With poll ratings no better than Biden's are during this DeSantis Variant Covid case surge slump, Repubs claimed Trump "Won the 2020 election...by a LOT!" They still do.

Btw, I see DeSantis' poll ratings have plunged about 14 points in the past 2-3 months vs Biden's decline of about 6 points. Is that because DeSantis' handling of the withdrawal from Afghanistan was disapproved of more than twice as much as Biden's or is it because Floridians disapprove of what his Puppet Masters are telling him to say and do more than twice as much? LOL.

ScatManDoo
09-09-21, 03:11
If the orange fruitcake hadn't lied about COVID from the get-go, would there be:

A. more US deaths from COVID; or.

B. Fewer US deaths from COVID?Herman Cain would still be with us.

ScatManDoo
09-09-21, 03:19
Btw, I see DeSantis' poll ratings have plunged about 14 points in the past 2-3 months vs Biden's decline of about 6 points. Is that because DeSantis' handling of the withdrawal from Afghanistan was disapproved of more than twice as much as Biden's or is it because Floridians disapprove of what his Puppet Masters are telling him to say and do more than twice as much? LOL.Anyone still following TrumpShit's lead is headed for failure-Just like TS.

PVMonger
09-09-21, 04:12
First you criticized him because US citizens were able to fly home from China, now you criticize him for supposedly looking at preventing it. Make your mind up. Actually never mind, you already have: Trump Derangement Syndrome, whereby every single thing Trump does must be bad regardless of whether it contradicts something you said five minutes before.

And Hong Kong and Macau are not part of China. They are separate territories with separate governing systems. Furthermore they are far from the outbreak source of Wuhan and have only 0. 5% of the population of China, statistically insignificant.You were the one who said that you can't prevent a US citizen from returning home. To wit: "Nobody can prevent Americans from returning to their home country". You even reverted to third-grade name calling when you did so. I just pointed out that the orange fruitcake proposed preventing Americans from returning home. I guess I can add "hypocrisy" to the growing list (racism, communism, socialism, fascism, xenophobia and now hypocrisy) of things that you don't understand.

Once again, your banning comments are wrong, wrong, wrong. I provided you a link. You didn't read it. Here it is again. https://apnews.com/article/asia-paci...068b92a03c003d Unfortunately you won't read it. "The USA Restrictions that took effect Feb. 2 continued to allow travel to the USA From China's Hong Kong and Macao territories over the past five months. The Associated Press reported that more than 8,000 Chinese and foreign nationals based in those territories entered the USA In the first three months after the travel restrictions were imposed. Additionally, more than 27,000 Americans returned from mainland China in the first month after the restrictions took effect. USA Officials lost track of more than 1,600 of them who were supposed to be monitored for virus exposure. "

Once again, you ignore the simple fact that trump screwed the pooch. His band of jerk-offs lost more than 1,600 returning Americans who were supposed to be tested. If Biden "lost" 1,600 Americans in Afghanistan, you'd have a conniption. Everything is either "fake news" or (now) "statistically insignificant". TCS runs rampant in the cult.

PVMonger
09-09-21, 04:18
What on earth are you gibbering about? Taliban fighters posed for a photo eating ice cream to mock the US (former vice) president whom they had just defeated, given the tendency of him and his fake news media shills to promote photos of him eating ice cream. We all remember the hard-hitting questions they asked Biden on the rare occasion his handlers let him out of the basement during the election campaign: "what flavor have you got, Joe?

So much embarrassment for America on so many levels.Your original post said that the Taliban was trolling Biden. Did the Taliban say that? If so, where's the source? You don't provide a source because there isn't one!.

The only people saying that they were mocking Biden are cult members.

PVMonger
09-09-21, 19:31
What on earth are you gibbering about? Taliban fighters posed for a photo eating ice cream to mock the US (former vice) president whom they had just defeated, given the tendency of him and his fake news media shills to promote photos of him eating ice cream. We all remember the hard-hitting questions they asked Biden on the rare occasion his handlers let him out of the basement during the election campaign: "what flavor have you got, Joe?

So much embarrassment for America on so many levels.The TCS-afflicted are hilarious. They think Biden is an embarrassment yet completely forget how the former guy screwed the pooch (figuratively but maybe actually) during his 4-year, twice-impeached reign of being the worst (probably, buy certainly in the bottom 5) president of the US. The following article is a real eye-opener. https://corruptiontrumpandgop.quora.com/Did-Donald-Trump-make-America-great-again-after-four-years-as-boss-human-rights-economy-military-diplomatically-and-31?ch=15&oid=306503769&share=7cdddff5&srid=dGTOD&target_type=answer&fbclid=IwAR27PtueQ6HOTDPMrhZ3Ifznra3i35rNfo0I9EMJw1AuCQABNGyx0c3CC0w.

MarquisdeSade1
09-09-21, 20:20
The Taliban own not only the Biden admin, but the entire Democrat party and their baijuo ignorance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baizuohttps://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/worlds-dirtiest-cities-list-raises-issue-why-dont-politicians-call-out-china

https://mises.org/wire/chinas-military-strength-has-been-greatly-exaggerated

Chris P
09-09-21, 22:46
Washington, DC President Joe Biden today announced that his administration will be helping the hostages trapped in Afghanistan after all, once it was revealed that a world-renowned McDonald's ice cream machine repairman was one of the captives.

Biden announced in a speech that he would stop at nothing to save the hostages, reversing the administration's previous policy of just saying "eh whatever" to Americans trapped in a foreign country.

"We will not rest. We will not falter. We will not fail," Biden said sternly after learning the McFlurry repair guy was trapped on a plane at the airport in Kabul. "We will do anything we need to do to get this guy out. " Reporters and commentators said that Biden appeared more lucid, focused, and charismatic than he's been in the past 20 years. "If we need to send in every last American soldier, we will do so. We'll start a new war if we have to. We'll pull out all the stops. "

With tears in his eyes, Biden made a personal, impassioned address to the McFlurry repairman. "We're pulling for you. We're praying for you. You are not alone. We will not abandon you in your time of need. America does not leave anyone behindnot when ice cream is on the line."Brilliant! Trolling Biden is so hilarious on so many levels. The guy was universally derided as an establishment goof for decades.

The media (back when it criticized democrats) rightly mocked him for withdrawing in disgrace from his '88 presidential run because he plagiarized some British socialist's speech; and again for his stunningly unpopular '08 run, in which he failed almost as badly as Kamala Harris last year.

He was widely regarded as the dumbest guy in the Senate, with much pointless rambling idiocy pouring out from beneath his bad hair plugs. Even when he was VP, Obama was known to privately mock and sideline him. And of course, when the fake news media were in the tank for Crooked Hillary back in 2015, they began to run the many disturbing videos of him sniffing and intimately touching women and underage girls in order to put him off from running.

Yet suddenly we are expected by the same fake news media to forget everything that went before, and believe that this doofus is a shining paragon of intellect and virtue? LOL. Oh yeah, and just ignore the obvious dementia.

No wonder it's called Clownworld.

Chris P
09-09-21, 23:06
You were the one who said that you can't prevent a US citizen from returning home. To wit: "Nobody can prevent Americans from returning to their home country". You even reverted to third-grade name calling when you did so. I just pointed out that the orange fruitcake proposed preventing Americans from returning home. I guess I can add "hypocrisy" to the growing list (racism, communism, socialism, fascism, xenophobia and now hypocrisy) of things that you don't understand.

Once again, your banning comments are wrong, wrong, wrong. I provided you a link. You didn't read it. Here it is again. https://apnews.com/article/asia-paci...068b92a03c003d Unfortunately you won't read it. "The USA Restrictions that took effect Feb. 2 continued to allow travel to the USA From China's Hong Kong and Macao territories over the past five months. The Associated Press reported that more than 8,000 Chinese and foreign nationals based in those territories entered the USA In the first three months after the travel restrictions were imposed. Additionally, more than 27,000 Americans returned from mainland China in the first month after the restrictions took effect. USA Officials lost track of more than 1,600 of them who were supposed to be monitored for virus exposure. "

Once again, you ignore the simple fact that trump screwed the pooch. His band of jerk-offs lost more than 1,600 returning Americans who were supposed to be tested. If Biden "lost" 1,600 Americans in Afghanistan, you'd have a conniption. Everything is either "fake news" or (now) "statistically insignificant". TCS runs rampant in the cult.You are the one who first criticized Trump's China ban because it didn't block US citizens in China from coming home. It turns out that that was not even possible, thus destroying your earlier criticism. Unfortunately, you aren't smart enough to realize it. Anyway I very much doubt Trump would have left any Americans stranded there: that is more the style of Biden's handlers, as we are seeing in Afghanistan.

The fact that you compare 1600 Americans that Trump got home to America with 1600 Americans that Biden has abandoned behind enemy lines in Afghanistan to be taken hostage is an excellent illustration of your laughable lack of perspective and understanding. Again, this is due to your Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Regarding China, I have already told you that Macau and Hong Kong are self-governing entities separate from China. Trump banned all non-US citizens from flying to the US from China in January 2020, very early in the outbreak, in the face of opposition from dems / fake news, who demanded he keep letting in thousands of Chinese from Wuhan. It is really that simple, and no amount of your turgid, meaningless word sludge and far-left fake news links will change that fact.

Your silly questions are full of conjecture and falsehoods, like most of what you write. However there is no falsehood in the fact that the Democrats opposed Trump's China flight ban when it was implemented. Biden called it "xenophobic", and Pelosi went to Chinatown to tell people to hug Chinamen and encourage tourism there.

(Oh, and as an aside, this was also the same time Fauci was saying publicly the whole thing wasn't going to be a big deal, while privately scrambling to cover up the fact that he funded the Wuhan gain of function research that started the whole thing. So he was yet again both wrong and a liar. Just like he was 40 years ago over aids. Some things never change).

Finally, to return to the original question which has yet to be answered, if Pelosi and the Democrats' demands to continue flights from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been.

A. more; or.

B. Less.

Covid in the United States?

Chris P
09-09-21, 23:10
Your original post said that the Taliban was trolling Biden. Did the Taliban say that? If so, where's the source? You don't provide a source because there isn't one!.

The only people saying that they were mocking Biden are cult members.Just suck it up and accept the L. The Taliban not only humiliated Biden on the ground; they humiliated him online. And they are no doubt doing so in his dreams, during his long naps in the basement.

MarquisdeSade1
09-09-21, 23:14
Even when he was VP, Obama was known to privately mock and sideline him.
Ohhh the shame LOL.

To be sidelined by the dood that you helped win and whose college grades were so pathetic, he won't release them, even to this day lmao.

Dumb and Dumber LMAO.

Ill let you decide which is which.

PVMonger
09-10-21, 00:09
Brilliant! Trolling Biden is so hilarious on so many levels. The guy was universally derided as an establishment goof for decades.

The media (back when it criticized democrats) rightly mocked him for withdrawing in disgrace from his '88 presidential run because he plagiarized some British socialist's speech; and again for his stunningly unpopular '08 run, in which he failed almost as badly as Kamala Harris last year.

He was widely regarded as the dumbest guy in the Senate, with much pointless rambling idiocy pouring out from beneath his bad hair plugs. Even when he was VP, Obama was known to privately mock and sideline him. And of course, when the fake news media were in the tank for Crooked Hillary back in 2015, they began to run the many disturbing videos of him sniffing and intimately touching women and underage girls in order to put him off from running.

Yet suddenly we are expected by the same fake news media to forget everything that went before, and believe that this doofus is a shining paragon of intellect and virtue? LOL. Oh yeah, and just ignore the obvious dementia.

No wonder it's called Clownworld.Who wants to bet that our resident cult members will deny that the former guy did any of these things.

https://corruptiontrumpandgop.quora.com/Did-Donald-Trump-make-America-great-again-after-four-years-as-boss-human-rights-economy-military-diplomatically-and-31?ch=15&oid=306503769&share=7cdddff5&srid=dGTOD&target_type=answer&fbclid=IwAR27PtueQ6HOTDPMrhZ3Ifznra3i35rNfo0I9EMJw1AuCQABNGyx0c3CC0w

EihTooms
09-10-21, 03:06
Brilliant! Trolling Biden is so hilarious on so many levels. The guy was universally derided as an establishment goof for decades.

The media (back when it criticized democrats) rightly mocked him for withdrawing in disgrace from his '88 presidential run because he plagiarized some British socialist's speech; and again for his stunningly unpopular '08 run, in which he failed almost as badly as Kamala Harris last year.

He was widely regarded as the dumbest guy in the Senate, with much pointless rambling idiocy pouring out from beneath his bad hair plugs. Even when he was VP, Obama was known to privately mock and sideline him. And of course, when the fake news media were in the tank for Crooked Hillary back in 2015, they began to run the many disturbing videos of him sniffing and intimately touching women and underage girls in order to put him off from running.

Yet suddenly we are expected by the same fake news media to forget everything that went before, and believe that this doofus is a shining paragon of intellect and virtue? LOL. Oh yeah, and just ignore the obvious dementia.

No wonder it's called Clownworld."Anominous"...more than once.

"Oranges" instead of Origins...more than once.

"Yo Semite." Once was enough.

Cite 3 Biden flubs as laughable and as conclusive of serious dementia as those.

EihTooms
09-10-21, 03:22
Who wants to bet that our resident cult members will deny that the former guy did any of these things.

https://corruptiontrumpandgop.quora.com/Did-Donald-Trump-make-America-great-again-after-four-years-as-boss-human-rights-economy-military-diplomatically-and-31?ch=15&oid=306503769&share=7cdddff5&srid=dGTOD&target_type=answer&fbclid=IwAR27PtueQ6HOTDPMrhZ3Ifznra3i35rNfo0I9EMJw1AuCQABNGyx0c3CC0wYes, it really does go on and on.

Trying to address every criminal, shameful, America-hating, Anti-America, laughable, clownish, embarrassing, ultimately disastrous, deadly, economy and national security-destroying act committed by the current leader, lord, savior, king maker and standard bearer of the entire Republican Party, Donald Trump, is like trying to catch confetti.

Or is it "covfefe"? LOL.

PVMonger
09-10-21, 03:37
You are the one who first criticized Trump's China ban because it didn't block US citizens in China from coming home. It turns out that that was not even possible, thus destroying your earlier criticism. Unfortunately, you aren't smart enough to realize it. Anyway I very much doubt Trump would have left any Americans stranded there: that is more the style of Biden's handlers, as we are seeing in Afghanistan.

The fact that you compare 1600 Americans that Trump got home to America with 1600 Americans that Biden has abandoned behind enemy lines in Afghanistan to be taken hostage is an excellent illustration of your laughable lack of perspective and understanding. Again, this is due to your Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Regarding China, I have already told you that Macau and Hong Kong are self-governing entities separate from China. Trump banned all non-US citizens from flying to the US from China in January 2020, very early in the outbreak, in the face of opposition from dems / fake news, who demanded he keep letting in thousands of Chinese from Wuhan. It is really that simple, and no amount of your turgid, meaningless word sludge and far-left fake news links will change that fact.

Your silly questions are full of conjecture and falsehoods, like most of what you write. However there is no falsehood in the fact that the Democrats opposed Trump's China flight ban when it was implemented. Biden called it "xenophobic", and Pelosi went to Chinatown to tell people to hug Chinamen and encourage tourism there.You have the stones to call me stupid?

The orange fruitcake is a xenophobe. And a racist. And a fascist. And any supporters of his are as well.

There is only one stupid person in this discussion and it isn't me.

EihTooms
09-10-21, 04:01
...
Finally, to return to the original question which has yet to be answered, if Pelosi and the Democrats' demands to continue flights from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been.

A. more; or.

B. Less.

Covid in the United States?When did Pelosi demand that the flight restrictions from China (there was never a ban) re Covid be lifted? Do you have a link for that?

We know Biden did not oppose the restrictions (never a ban) on flights from China no matter how late in the game Trump implemented them to do much good, although Trump repeatedly lied that he did:

Trump’s Misleading Comments on Biden and the Coronavirus
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/trumps-misleading-comments-on-biden-and-the-coronavirus/

So it is reasonable to ask for a link for Nancy Pelosi demanding that those China flight restrictions (never a ban) re Covid be lifted as well just in case it turns out, ya know, that was another of Trump's 30,000 or so lies he told as a so-called president.

Travv
09-10-21, 15:41
Seems to be a lot of CNN employees posting here. Biden can do no wrong!

Atlanta, GA After a tumultuous 3 weeks and a botched withdrawal from Afghanistan, internal polls now indicate that Biden's approval rating among those who work at CNN has fallen to an all-time low of 98%.

"This is extremely concerning," said CNN president Jeffrey Zucker. "In spite of our best efforts to support our dear president, his approval among our employees has fallen to just 98%, down from a previous low of 99.2%. Rest assured—we will find who these employees are who disapprove and ensure they undergo disciplinary measures."

Some anonymous sources have suggested that Biden's approval rating at CNN is actually much lower, but that most employees have lied on the survey in order to keep their jobs. To find out who's lying, Zucker will be mandating lie detector tests for all employees.

The survey did confirm, however, that CNN employee approval of Communist China, Big Tech, Kim Yong Un of North Korea and Jeffrey Toobin still remains at a healthy 100%, at least among those named Jeffrey Toobin.


Yes, it really does go on and on.

Trying to address every criminal, shameful, America-hating, Anti-America, laughable, clownish, embarrassing, ultimately disastrous, deadly, economy and national security-destroying act committed by the current leader, lord, savior, king maker and standard bearer of the entire Republican Party, Donald Trump, is like trying to catch confetti.

Or is it "covfefe"? LOL.

ScatManDoo
09-10-21, 21:13
From CBS:

TrumpShit has been placing calls to family members of the 13 service members killed in the Islamic State-Khorasan terrorist attack during the withdrawal. Several have invited him to attend the funerals, and TrumpShit has suggested he may try to do so.

They are smart to invite him to speak since TrumpShit is a master eulogist who will keep the focus on the deceased, and.

It is incredibly gracious of TS to reach out to the grieving families of fallen heroes that he has always thought of as losers and suckers.

Cali Guy
09-10-21, 23:01
Your original post said that the Taliban was trolling Biden. Did the Taliban say that? If so, where's the source? You don't provide a source because there isn't one!.

The only people saying that they were mocking Biden are cult members.Add NATO and Britain prime minister to list of people mocking Biden incompetence.

Cali Guy
09-10-21, 23:04
Anyone still following TrumpShit's lead is headed for failure-Just like TS.The only ones appearing to still be following Trump is the democrats and far left. They are naive enough to think tat if they keep talking about Trump the world won't notice Biden screwing up the USA. Well the rest of the world sees Biden disasters and smart Americans see Biden failures. We're does that leave you?

Run Mann
09-11-21, 03:05
Former Prez Trump will be a boxing commentator on the anniversary of 9/11. He couldn't beat Biden in the last election but said he could beat Joe in a boxing match. Despite what you think, Don jr. Said this will be a dignified event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzHpsX_UDzI

ScatManDoo
09-11-21, 05:16
Former Prez Trump will be a boxing commentator on the anniversary of 9/11. He couldn't beat Biden in the last election but said he could beat Joe in a boxing match. Despite what you think, Don jr. Said this will be a dignified event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzHpsX_UDzINext he'll be put in a locked cage and become part of a traveling circus.

Fitting.

Xpartan
09-11-21, 07:39
Isn't it cool that this mongering forum attracts new members who are not in the least interested in mongering and who never go outside American Politics to discuss anything else?

At least, those fellas of the days long gone -- the ones who claimed they read Playboy "for the articles" -- were lying.

Unlike these new guys who want to "own the libs" so badly, they really don't give a shit about the centerfolds.

PVMonger
09-11-21, 18:17
Add NATO and Britain prime minister to list of people mocking Biden incompetence.The only people who believe posts without sources are TCS-afflicted cultists.

PVMonger
09-11-21, 18:25
When did Pelosi demand that the flight restrictions from China (there was never a ban) re Covid be lifted? Do you have a link for that?

We know Biden did not oppose the restrictions (never a ban) on flights from China no matter how late in the game Trump implemented them to do much good, although Trump repeatedly lied that he did:

Trumps Misleading Comments on Biden and the Coronavirus
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/07/trumps-misleading-comments-on-biden-and-the-coronavirus/

So it is reasonable to ask for a link for Nancy Pelosi demanding that those China flight restrictions (never a ban) re Covid be lifted as well just in case it turns out, ya know, that was another of Trump's 30,000 or so lies he told as a so-called president.Our resident xenophobe will say that all fact checks are "fake news". What he and the rest of the TCS-afflicted cultists don't know is that a similar term to "fake news" was used eighty-some-odd years ago by the arguably most fascist, racist and xenophobic regime in history.

Spidy
09-11-21, 22:50
From CBS:

TrumpShit has been placing calls to family members of the 13 service members killed in the Islamic State-Khorasan terrorist attack during the withdrawal. Several have invited him to attend the funerals, and TrumpShit has suggested he may try to do so.

They are smart to invite him to speak since TrumpShit is a master eulogist who will keep the focus on the deceased, and.

It is incredibly gracious of TS to reach out to the grieving families of fallen heroes that he has always thought of as losers and suckers.And when they invite Agent Orange to their memorials, they only prove him right for calling them losers and suckers.

After all what father or mother in their "right-mind" would want a narcissistic, corrupt, deceitful, con-man and grifter, who thinks their sons and daughters are losers and suckers for giving their lives in the service of their country.

No doubt, he'll use it as an photo-op to pose with the Bible and use tear gas to clear his path, for squeezing more donations out of his "losers and suckers". Oh wait, . . . sorry the tear gas is ONLY for BLM'ers.

Golfinho
09-12-21, 01:54
After all what father or mother in their "right-mind" would want a narcissistic, corrupt, deceitful, con-man and grifter, who thinks their sons and daughters are losers and suckers for giving their lives in the service of their country.You're talking about a man who married off his offspring to lubavitch and chabad. There's no self-serving opportunity that he won't pass up.

EihTooms
09-12-21, 06:21
Isn't it cool that this mongering forum attracts new members who are not in the least interested in mongering and who never go outside American Politics to discuss anything else?

At least, those fellas of the days long gone -- the ones who claimed they read Playboy "for the articles" -- were lying.

Unlike these new guys who want to "own the libs" so badly, they really don't give a shit about the centerfolds.That isn't the least bit surprising. The majority of Biden/Dem-bashers on this forum as everywhere are clearly adamantly opposed to mongering, especially international travel for the purpose of mongering.

No other conclusion is possible.

The outcome that taking an anti-Democrat position or, for that matter, a "False Equivalency" or "Both Sides Are To Blame" position inevitably produces, which is to help Republicans win elections and control the levers of USA power, not only led directly to every major economic decline, massive job losses and retirement plan destruction of the past 100 years with no indication of a change in their agenda on the far horizon, it has now proven to be the absolute best way to ensure America and the rest of the world will be plagued by perpetual Trump's Pandemic viral replications, mutations and variants that work tirelessly to evade every vaccine protection for the rest of our lives and those of our children and grandchildren.

Obviously, mongering, especially international travel for the purpose of mongering, will suffer immeasurably for it.

No result of Republican Party "stewardship" has been or ever will be beneficial rather than harmful to mongering anywhere on the planet.

John Clayton
09-12-21, 16:43
...No result of Republican Party "stewardship" has been or ever will be beneficial rather than harmful to mongering anywhere on the planet.I have to disagree with that. Despite claims to the contrary, the objective of the GOP is to reduce the US to a third world, authoritarian shit hole, which, in fact, creates perfect conditions for mongering. Highly educated societies with strong social welfare systems are crappy at producing local working girls (think Denmark, Sweden, France). Madagascar, Phillipines, Tanzania, Gambia the girls are so desperate they will swallow your semen just to get the protein. Republicans clearly want to create a heavily armed, country where the rich live in luxury in walled compounds staffed by impoverished former citizens who will do anything to feed their starving, diseased family.

ScatManDoo
09-12-21, 18:32
I have to disagree with that. Despite claims to the contrary, the objective of the GOP is to reduce the US to a third world, authoritarian shit hole, which, in fact, creates perfect conditions for mongering. Highly educated societies with strong social welfare systems are crappy at producing local working girls (think Denmark, Sweden, France). Madagascar, Phillipines, Tanzania, Gambia the girls are so desperate they will swallow your semen just to get the protein. Republicans clearly want to create a heavily armed, country where the rich live in luxury in walled compounds staffed by impoverished former citizens who will do anything to feed their starving, diseased family.So was Thomas Jefferson, with his vast collection of caramel-colored babbies, more Republican than Democrat?

Footnote: he was the second of four early presidents to claim he was in the Democratic-Republican Party.

Chris P
09-12-21, 21:56
Directly after Trump announced the China travel ban, Biden accused him of "hysterical xenophobia" in a speech the same day, and in a tweet the following day.

It was clearly a reference to the China ban, but now the fake news media is attempting to say that because Biden didn't actually say "the China ban is hysterical xenophobia" he wasn't referring to it. It was just a coincidence that he used those remarks (or rather his handlers put them on the autocue and tweeted them for him) on the very same day.

Obviously disingenuous crap. Like everything the left, its sycophants and its fake news produces.

Chris P
09-12-21, 22:12
to help Republicans win elections and control the levers of USA power, not only led directly to every major economic decline, massive job losses and retirement plan destruction of the past 100 yearsYour regular reminder that this guy thinks Jimmy Carter was a successful president. And admits it.

Frankypanky
09-12-21, 22:18
I have to disagree with that. Despite claims to the contrary, the objective of the GOP is to reduce the US to a third world, authoritarian shit hole, which, in fact, creates perfect conditions for mongering. Highly educated societies with strong social welfare systems are crappy at producing local working girls (think Denmark, Sweden, France). Madagascar, Phillipines, Tanzania, Gambia the girls are so desperate they will swallow your semen just to get the protein. Republicans clearly want to create a heavily armed, country where the rich live in luxury in walled compounds staffed by impoverished former citizens who will do anything to feed their starving, diseased family.Fact!

Prove? How about Jan. 6th?!

PVMonger
09-12-21, 22:19
I have to disagree with that. Despite claims to the contrary, the objective of the GOP is to reduce the US to a third world, authoritarian shit hole, which, in fact, creates perfect conditions for mongering. Highly educated societies with strong social welfare systems are crappy at producing local working girls (think Denmark, Sweden, France). Madagascar, Phillipines, Tanzania, Gambia the girls are so desperate they will swallow your semen just to get the protein. Republicans clearly want to create a heavily armed, country where the rich live in luxury in walled compounds staffed by impoverished former citizens who will do anything to feed their starving, diseased family.Republicans clearly want to create a heavily armed, country where the rich live in luxury in walled compounds staffed by impoverished former citizens who will do anything to feed their starving, diseased family. And the Republican cultists doing anything to feed their families will still vote Republican because Republican politicians will keep telling them that the Dems are communists. And the cult will continue to believe it. Republican politicians don't want to fund education because they want uneducated cultists.

Chris P
09-12-21, 22:22
Add NATO and Britain prime minister to list of people mocking Biden incompetence.Yes, Biden practically pissed himself during the recent G7 summit in Britain (the usual trailing off mid-sentence, forgetting who people were, and other signs of his worsening dementia) and then ordered the humiliating American fleeing from Bagram airbase in the middle of the night without telling his supposed NATO allies in Afghanistan or the Afghan National Army (who had $90 billion of American weapons, now in the ands of the Taliban).

Bagram was a great strategic asset, easily defended, and should have been used to get Americans out rather than the chaotic and disastrous scenes at Hamid Karzai airport.

But cutting and running without even telling your military allies in the country? That is truly shameful. Hard to think of a more disgraceful and treacherous surrender in American military history. No wonder Boris Johnson is calling him Sleepy Joe.

Frankypanky
09-12-21, 22:26
Add NATO and Britain prime minister to list of people mocking Biden incompetence.LOL! And yet ignoring reality.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-macron-boris-johnson-trudeau-nato-laughing-buckingham-palace-a9231881.html

Typical Reps. 2016: Hillary lost. Get over it!

2021: Trump won, not Biden and will be reinstalled by June / July / August / September / somewhere this year.

Chris P
09-12-21, 22:59
The fascinating recent story of Joe Rogan's run-in with covid is a good opportunity to highlight once again the mendacity and duplicitousness of the establishment fake news media.

Rogan is in his mid-50's, part of the demographic the fake news keeps telling us is in mortal danger from the covid, which they use to justify their brutal and unconstitutional lockdown, removal of liberties, and destruction of small businesses and the American middle class. They also use it to justify their vax passport, soon to be changed into a China-style social credit system in which citizens can be locked out of society if they displease the ruling elites.

So when Rogan (who is believed to be unvaccinated) announced on his hugely popular podcast that he had had covid, took Ivermectin among other treatments, and recovered after a couple of days, this went badly against the narrative. Men in their mid-50's could take medicine for the virus rather than an untested gene therapy vaccine with accompanied dystopian control grid? That wouldn't do.

So the fake media went into attack mode.

Ivermectin, they said (in curiously synchronized fashion) was a "horse dewormer". When taken in too large a dose, it could be fatal! They screamed.

Second one first: that is true of most medicine. If you take a vastly high dose of anything, it could be fatal. But the "horse dewormer" canard is the real fakery.

Ivermectin has been used to treat humans for decades. The Ivermectin paste administered to horses is a completely different version, of different intensity, of the drug which was approved for human use in 1988, and approved in the US by the FDA for human use in 1996. Yes, 25 years ago. It has been used safely by hundreds of millions of people over that time.

In fact, Ivermectin was called a "wonder drug" for humans. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/ - "There are few drugs that can seriously lay claim to the title of 'Wonder drug', penicillin and aspirin being two that have perhaps had greatest beneficial impact on the health and wellbeing of Mankind. But ivermectin can also be considered alongside those worthy contenders, based on its versatility, safety and the beneficial impact that it has had, and continues to have, worldwide."

Furthermore, not only is Ivermectin a drug that has been prescribed safely to humans for decades, but it was found to be effective in treating covid: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/ - "Ivermectin, a US Food and Drug Administration-approved anti-parasitic agent, was found to inhibit severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) replication in vitro. ".

However, Ivermectin goes against the combined interests of Big Pharma and the Washington Establishment. It is very cheap, and would cut into Big Pharma's vast profits for their neverending "vaccines" and "booster shots". And of course the establishment want a population that is vaxed, controlled and compliant (not to mention the destruction of small businesses and the middle class and creation of a serf class).

Hence the media's failure to mention that Ivermectin has been a "wonder drug" for humans for over 25 years with hundreds of millions of people helped. Instead of reporting that truth, they ran with the "horse dEwOrMeR" hit pieces against Rogan.

Are you beginning to see how the Washington establishment, Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Finance and their Fake News work together to create and protect a fake narrative which damages the interests of the majority of Americans?

PVMonger
09-13-21, 03:54
The cult likes to say that Biden is senile. Watch this video of the former guy confusing 9/11 with 7/11. ROFLMAO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sXQ3YJtlqo.

EihTooms
09-13-21, 04:13
I have to disagree with that. Despite claims to the contrary, the objective of the GOP is to reduce the US to a third world, authoritarian shit hole, which, in fact, creates perfect conditions for mongering. Highly educated societies with strong social welfare systems are crappy at producing local working girls (think Denmark, Sweden, France). Madagascar, Phillipines, Tanzania, Gambia the girls are so desperate they will swallow your semen just to get the protein. Republicans clearly want to create a heavily armed, country where the rich live in luxury in walled compounds staffed by impoverished former citizens who will do anything to feed their starving, diseased family.Well, once they gain enough power to eliminate unemployment benefits, Medicaid and every other safety net Dems installed to prevent us from becoming like those shithole countries after enough of the Repub Party's patented Great Repub Crashes, Recessions/Depressions and Massive Job Losses, I suppose you are right.

Although I don't know how a thriving P4P industry in USA will jive with the other long time Repub dream; to outlaw birth control, outlaw sex for recreation, fun and pleasure and only allow sex for the purpose of procreation with Forced Birth legislation Texas-style to follow across the country.

Chris P
09-13-21, 14:00
Forced Birth legislation.If they don't want to keep the kid they can put it up for adoption and forget about it. That's a better deal than men get in America: one mistake and you're on the financial hook for 18 years regardless of whether you want anything to do with the babymomma or crotchfruit.

PVMonger
09-13-21, 19:54
If they don't want to keep the kid they can put it up for adoption and forget about it. That's a better deal than men get in America: one mistake and you're on the financial hook for 18 years regardless of whether you want anything to do with the babymomma or crotchfruit.There are about 400,000 kids in the foster care system. Every year an additional 250,000 enter and less than 125,000 are adopted. Once a child reaches about 6 years old, the likelihood of them being adopted falls to about 0. Those are real facts, not alternative facts.

So what you said was that if a woman doesn't want the kid, she can have it institutionalized. That's the kind of immature thinking you're known for.

A better option is to give every man over 12 a vasectomy. After they are married and show that they are mentally and fiscally able to have a child, they can have the vasectomy reversed. What? Is that a "no" I hear? They can't "force" you? "My body, my choice"?

Smh.

Kadeem
09-14-21, 01:39
And when they invite Agent Orange to their memorials, they only prove him right for calling them losers and suckers.

After all what father or mother in their "right-mind" would want a narcissistic, corrupt, deceitful, con-man and grifter, who thinks their sons and daughters are losers and suckers for giving their lives in the service of their country.

No doubt, he'll use it as an photo-op to pose with the Bible and use tear gas to clear his path, for squeezing more donations out of his "losers and suckers". Oh wait, . . . sorry the tear gas is ONLY for BLM'ers.Military families love Trump and Trump supports the military and their families. That is why he gets invited. On the contrary Biden disasters are to blame for these 13 military killed and that is why the military and their families ban Biden from their functions. Only a fool is anti military and Biden qualifies for sure. And yes democrats hate Trump popularity with the military and some democrats are stupid enough to dispute his popularity. Probably a couple dumb ones on this forum.

EihTooms
09-14-21, 04:49
Military families love Trump and Trump supports the military and their families. That is why he gets invited. On the contrary Biden disasters are to blame for these 13 military killed and that is why the military and their families ban Biden from their functions. Only a fool is anti military and Biden qualifies for sure. And yes democrats hate Trump popularity with the military and some democrats are stupid enough to dispute his popularity. Probably a couple dumb ones on this forum.Veterans Showed Up For Biden This Year And Trump Wants To Dump Military Ballots
11/11/2020.
https://nowthisnews.com/news/veterans-showed-up-for-biden-this-year-and-trump-wants-to-dump-military-ballots

Trump says the military will vote for him. But he lost their support long ago.
Trump treats the armed forces as just another entity he can manipulate for political purposes. That's alienated the troops and the top brass alike.
Oct. 11,2020.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-says-military-will-vote-him-he-lost-their-support-ncna1245542

Here's Why Trump Has Lost So Much Support in the Active Duty Military
Oct. 9, 2020.
https://time.com/5898258/trump-lost-support-military/

Xpartan
09-14-21, 08:05
The fascinating recent story of Joe Rogan's run-in with covid is a good opportunity to highlight once again the mendacity and duplicitousness of the establishment fake news media.

Rogan is in his mid-50's, part of the demographic the fake news keeps telling us is in mortal danger from the covid, which they use to justify their brutal and unconstitutional lockdown, removal of liberties, and destruction of small businesses and the American middle class. They also use it to justify their vax passport, soon to be changed into a China-style social credit system in which citizens can be locked out of society if they displease the ruling elites.

So when Rogan (who is believed to be unvaccinated) announced on his hugely popular podcast that he had had covid, took Ivermectin among other treatments, and recovered after a couple of days, this went badly against the narrative. "Badly against the narrative"? Did it now?

And what "other treatments" did our hero also receive, and why does your "maverick" article mention "other treatments" like it's no big deal?

Well, let's see.


In his video on Wednesday, Mr. Rogan said he had been treated with a series of medications. Sunday sucked, he said, but by the time he made the video, he said he was feeling pretty good, using an expletive.

A wonderful heartfelt thank you to modern medicine for pulling me out of this so quickly and easily, he said.

The list of treatments he mentioned included monoclonal antibodies, which have been shown to protect Covid patients at risk of becoming gravely ill; and prednisone, a steroid widely accepted as a Covid treatment. When Donald J. Trump was stricken with Covid during his presidency, he was also treated with monoclonal antibodies. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/01/business/joe-rogan-covid-19.html

Among other treatments, my ass.

Xpartan
09-14-21, 08:07
Veterans Showed Up For Biden This Year And Trump Wants To Dump Military Ballots
11/11/2020.
https://nowthisnews.com/news/veterans-showed-up-for-biden-this-year-and-trump-wants-to-dump-military-ballots

Trump says the military will vote for him. But he lost their support long ago.
Trump treats the armed forces as just another entity he can manipulate for political purposes. That's alienated the troops and the top brass alike.
Oct. 11,2020.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-says-military-will-vote-him-he-lost-their-support-ncna1245542

Here's Why Trump Has Lost So Much Support in the Active Duty Military
Oct. 9, 2020.
https://time.com/5898258/trump-lost-support-military/LOL, another new monger who doesn't give a shit about mongering, LOL.

Cali Guy
09-14-21, 14:26
In California Governor Newsom disclosed last night that his recall is assured to fail. The mail in votes will decide another election. Democrats have had hundreds of paid people harvesting mail in ballots. Most not filled out. They are harvested and filled out to stop the recall and since signatures are not checked in California they will be counted by democrats running the election. Proof of this is one person was paid for ballots but he purchased meth with his payment and got stoned. Police stopped him and arrested him with meth and 300 ballots. Newsom and the corrupt democrats will continue to destroy our state.

PVMonger
09-14-21, 16:22
LOL, another new monger who doesn't give a shit about mongering, LOL.Since when does "American Politics" have anything but a tangential relationships with mongering?

Xpartan
09-14-21, 19:56
Since when does "American Politics" have anything but a tangential relationships with mongering?Tangential? It doesn't even have a tangential connection as far as I'm concerned. So I'm curious.

Why does a new member come to a forum called "International Sex Guide" and the only things he ever posts are about politics?

And then all his 'political' posts consist of wild conspiracy theories.

That makes me even more curious. I don't know, just can't help it, I guess.

Considering, again, that there are zillions of dedicated political forums out there where he can exercise his First Amendment.

So why?

PVMonger
09-14-21, 21:51
In California Governor Newsom disclosed last night that his recall is assured to fail. The mail in votes will decide another election. Democrats have had hundreds of paid people harvesting mail in ballots. Most not filled out. They are harvested and filled out to stop the recall and since signatures are not checked in California they will be counted by democrats running the election. Proof of this is one person was paid for ballots but he purchased meth with his payment and got stoned. Police stopped him and arrested him with meth and 300 ballots. Newsom and the corrupt democrats will continue to destroy our state.First, the "no signature checks" statement is false: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/02/16/fact-check-california-requires-mail-ballot-signature-verification/6770483002/.

Second, since signatures are checked, the fact that someone had 300 unopened ballots is meaningless. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/569337-police-passed-out-man-had-300-mail-in-california-recall-ballots.

Why do you cultists even bother? You realize, right, that just because you say something is true doesn't make it true.

ScatManDoo
09-14-21, 22:41
In California Governor Newsom disclosed last night that his recall is assured to fail. The mail in votes will decide another election. Democrats have had hundreds of paid people harvesting mail in ballots. Most not filled out. They are harvested and filled out to stop the recall and since signatures are not checked in California they will be counted by democrats running the election. Proof of this is one person was paid for ballots but he purchased meth with his payment and got stoned. Police stopped him and arrested him with meth and 300 ballots. Newsom and the corrupt democrats will continue to destroy our state.California has over 22 million registered voters, which is 87.87% of adult Californians that are eligible to register.

Of those over 22 million registered voters (a November 2020 measure) 46.1% are registered democrats. 24 years ago democrats were 47.2% of registered voters, so it holds pretty steady.

Republicans seem to be a dying breed out here, as their number of registered voters in California has steadily dropped over the years from 36.4% of CA registered voters in 1996 to only 24.2% in November 2020.

But with shitty GOP candidates and bad policies, it is easy to understand why that has happened in just one generation.

The ballots have not been counted yet, but as the mail-in ballots arrive a constant tally is made of how many ballots arrive from democrats, as well as the minor parties, like the GOP.

Mail-in ballots from democrats are outpacing republicans by an easy to predict 2:1 ratio in this current republican recall effort.

Gavin Newsom won in 2018 with (as I recall) over 60% of the votes, and he will probably be kept in office (and re-elected) with repeats of this +60% measure.

Spidy
09-14-21, 22:57
Since when does "American Politics" have anything but a tangential relationships with mongering?Well naturally, on the rare occasion when the two points of views do intersect, it becomes great fodder for masses, especially here on this thread.

For example Agent Orange, Matt Gaetz, Pres. Clinton, Elliot Spitzer and one of my all-time favs, Alabama USA Senate candidate, Judge Roy Moore. (BTW, was it just me or did no one see the resemblance to Max Hardcore...kkkk).

But I'll have to agree to solely come to a mongering forum to ONLY post about US politics, just doesn't pass the smell test.

Chris P
09-14-21, 23:33
"Badly against the narrative"? Did it now?

And what "other treatments" did our hero also receiveNot the point. The point is that Ivermectin was approved for use in humans in Japan in 1987 and by the FDA in the US in 1996, and has been used to successfully treat hundreds of millions of people over those decades. So successfully that it was termed a "wonder drug" in the scientific papers to which I linked.

Furthermore, the scientific papers also showed that Ivermectin is beneficial against covid.

Why did the media mention none of this? Why did they not mention that it has been used by humans for three decades, was known as a wonder drug, and studies have shown it to be beneficial against covid?

If the media was even-handed and unbiased, they would have stated all of those facts.

But unfortunately they, like the leftist douches on this board, are mendacious fake news hacks following a bolshevik agenda.

ScatManDoo
09-14-21, 23:45
Military families love Trump and Trump supports the military and their families. That is why he gets invited. On the contrary Biden disasters are to blame for these 13 military killed and that is why the military and their families ban Biden from their functions. Only a fool is anti military and Biden qualifies for sure. And yes democrats hate Trump popularity with the military and some democrats are stupid enough to dispute his popularity. Probably a couple dumb ones on this forum.
LOL, another new monger who doesn't give a shit about mongering, LOL.Another new monger?

Artisttyp
09-14-21, 23:56
In California Governor Newsom disclosed last night that his recall is assured to fail. The mail in votes will decide another election. Democrats have had hundreds of paid people harvesting mail in ballots. Most not filled out. They are harvested and filled out to stop the recall and since signatures are not checked in California they will be counted by democrats running the election. Proof of this is one person was paid for ballots but he purchased meth with his payment and got stoned. Police stopped him and arrested him with meth and 300 ballots. Newsom and the corrupt democrats will continue to destroy our state.Proof is in the pudding container. Anyone who supported this Re-Call is bogus IMO.

Total Witch Hunt.

PVMonger
09-15-21, 04:37
Not the point. The point is that Ivermectin was approved for use in humans in Japan in 1987 and by the FDA in the US in 1996, and has been used to successfully treat hundreds of millions of people over those decades. So successfully that it was termed a "wonder drug" in the scientific papers to which I linked.

Furthermore, the scientific papers also showed that Ivermectin is beneficial against covid.

Why did the media mention none of this? Why did they not mention that it has been used by humans for three decades, was known as a wonder drug, and studies have shown it to be beneficial against covid?

If the media was even-handed and unbiased, they would have stated all of those facts.

But unfortunately they, like the leftist douches on this board, are mendacious fake news hacks following a bolshevik agenda.Your original rant brought up the "Big Pharma is against ivermectin" poppycock. Sure, ivermectin is safe when prescribed by a doctor for the treatment of authorized issues. The drug is not, repeat, is not authorized as a treatment for COVID. And plenty of Tractor Supply stores in trump country have run out of horse dewormer. I realize that Republicans get upset at the "horse dewormer" characterization, but lots of Republicans have been clogging up ERs in trump country with ivermectin overdoses. Probably about the same number who were admitted in 2020 suffering from bleach poisoning or to remove rectal glass fragments.

The study you referred to said ivermectin showed promise against COVID in a laboratory. That's what "in vitro" means. Drug company archives are full of drugs that showed promise in the lab but failed clinical trials. Some problems were discovered after the drug hit the market. Remember thalidomide? Fen-phen?

And besides, Big Pharma doesn't give two hoots if $5 per pill ivermectin is authorized as a COVID treatment some time in the future. They'll just jack up the price to $1000 per pill. And Republicans will be OK with that because Government shouldn't force corporations to do things.

But Rogan received much more than ivermectin. He received monoclonal antibodies as well. Probably 2 injections at $1250 a pop. All told, his treatment probably cost $3,000. All so he wouldn't take two $20 vaccine shots. WTF? Really? He, of course, can afford it. What about the uninsured who can't? Seems like the party of limited government spending has got things backwards, don't you think?

Chris P
09-15-21, 23:45
In California Governor Newsom disclosed last night that his recall is assured to fail. The mail in votes will decide another election. Democrats have had hundreds of paid people harvesting mail in ballots. Most not filled out. They are harvested and filled out to stop the recall and since signatures are not checked in California they will be counted by democrats running the election. Proof of this is one person was paid for ballots but he purchased meth with his payment and got stoned. Police stopped him and arrested him with meth and 300 ballots. Newsom and the corrupt democrats will continue to destroy our state.Mail-in voting, particularly in democrat-run cities known for corruption and dysfunction, is a joke. Even the likes of Jimmy Carter and Elizabeth Warren said so: Carter in his 2005 bipartisan commission on voter fraud, which concluded that mail-in ballots were unsecure; and Warren just a couple of years back when she warned of the risk of vote-switching in the Dominion machines.

Of course now that it's their side which has capitalized on the above fraud, they've changed their tune and say it's all dandy. LOL.

Running a secure election is incredibly simple. Citizens register to vote if they wish to do so. They show up at the polling station on election day (all stations should be open from 7 am to 10 pm, so anyone who cares can find time to go vote) with a photo ID to verify themselves. They go into a private booth and mark their choice on a paper ballot which they push into a secure box.

Anyone who is legitimately unable to get to a polling station (housebound due to illness or injury; stationed or working overseas) can apply in advance for an absentee ballot. Their identity will be verified and they will receive the ballot. This will be a tiny fraction of total voters.

At the end of the day, the secure boxes are taken to a local counting centre, where volunteers tally the votes in the open. Election scrutineers from both parties are free to observe as they wish. Each batch of ballots is overseen by two counters, one Republican and one Democrat, both of whom must sign off on the tally before it is added to the total.

There is no need for fancy machines, magical algorithms, transferring of data round the world, pallots of 98% democrat ballots showing up at 4 am, etc. It is incredibly simple math: 1+1+1+1+1+1+1 etc. Even a product of a democrat city public school could manage it (well, as long as he was in advanced math class). That is exactly how elections work all round the world: Britain, France, Japan, etc.

The only reason anyone would want to deviate from this logical, tried, tested and trusted system is to rig an election and take power fraudulently against the wishes of the population. It might work in the short term, but in the long run it will lead to the downfall of the country.

Chris P
09-16-21, 00:23
In the aftermath of the most disastrous and humiliating American defeat in history, brought to you by Joe Biden's handlers, another disastrous blow to American strategic power, wealth and prestige quietly went below the radar. Last week, Russia completed its Nordstream gas pipeline to Germany.

President Trump had previously brought the huge influence of America to bear and blocked the project. As the leading member of NATO and effective protector of Germany, America holds significant sway in the country, and Trump had been pushing for the Germans to increase their shipments of American energy resources over Russian gas. Much of these American resources would have used the Keystone pipeline.

Just a few months into his fraudulent regime, Biden's handlers not only approved the Russian pipeline, giving Putin an enormous boost in both wealth and power as he can now effectively turn off Germany's lights; but also cancelled the Keystone pipeline, destroying tens of thousands of American jobs and billions in potential energy earnings.

Great job, Kremin Joe!

https://www.defensenews.com/smr/energy-and-environment/2021/09/10/russia-says-construction-of-controversial-nord-stream-2-pipeline-to-germany-is-complete/

Xpartan
09-16-21, 02:52
Not the point. The point is that Ivermectin was approved for use in humans in Japan in 1987 and by the FDA in the US in 1996, and has been used to successfully treat hundreds of millions of people over those decades.

What an imbecilic argument!

Approved for what? Aspirin was approved long before then, and has treated billions of people. Why not use it to treat Covid then?

Not the point, my ass. Why did then your piece of shit "maverick" article lie by omission? It was the monoclonal antibodies that save his life, not useless ivermectin.


So successfully that it was termed a "wonder drug" in the scientific papers to which I linked.Yes, as a treatment against parasites, not Covid.


Furthermore, the scientific papers also showed that Ivermectin is beneficial against covid.Bullshit. There are no credible studies that have shown anything beyond suggestions and presumptions. This study says there is nothing wonderful about your "wonder drug. ".

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/table-2c

EihTooms
09-16-21, 03:11
Since when does "American Politics" have anything but a tangential relationships with mongering?Since the world learned the hard way that one lunatic Repub with less than a majority or even a plurality of the American vote can and did turn a likely manageable endemic in one geographic location into a Pandemic that destroyed economies worldwide, killed millions of people and hobbled if not near fatally wounded International Sex mongering for years to come. In fact, that so-called potus' Party still continues to promote behaviors and decisions designed to accomplish only those horrific results.

This won't be the last virus that can be manipulated into as deadly and as ISG goal-destroying a Pandemic or worse than this one through typical Repub incompetence, cowardice and lies.

And there is an unlimited number of ambitious private sector failures eager to run for office as a Trump Repub Clone in all future elections, rigging them in every way possible to make sure they "win" and therefore can and will continue to produce those results.

I submit the primary reason new posters are showing up here to promote more election wins for Repubs, however small any single push and promotion might seem here, there or anywhere, matters to their goal of producing the very results I just cited. That is why they have nothing to say about mongering on any other forum.

You think "American Politics" has only a tangential relationship to the purpose of this website? Lol. I wish that were true. Maybe prior to Trump's ride down that escalator to announce his candidacy. But not anymore.

Golfinho
09-16-21, 03:40
Since the world learned the hard way that one lunatic Repub with less than a majority or even a plurality of the American vote can and did turn a likely manageable endemic in one geographic location into a Pandemic that destroyed economies worldwide, killed millions of people
This won't be the last virus that can be manipulated into as deadly and as ISG goal-destroying a Pandemic or worse than this one Camala Harris last October, on vaccine: 'If Donald Trump Tells Us To Take It, I'm Not Taking It.'

Fast forward to post-election and she's singing a different tune. Completely shameless to play politics in the midst of a pandemic while people are dying.

Tell your sob story about how Trump kept you from being able to find hookers you can afford -- tell it to Camala Harris.

PVMonger
09-16-21, 04:28
Mail-in voting, particularly in democrat-run cities known for corruption and dysfunction, is a joke. Even the likes of Jimmy Carter and Elizabeth Warren said so: Carter in his 2005 bipartisan commission on voter fraud, which concluded that mail-in ballots were unsecure; and Warren just a couple of years back when she warned of the risk of vote-switching in the Dominion machines.

Of course now that it's their side which has capitalized on the above fraud, they've changed their tune and say it's all dandy. LOL.

Running a secure election is incredibly simple. Citizens register to vote if they wish to do so. They show up at the polling station on election day (all stations should be open from 7 am to 10 pm, so anyone who cares can find time to go vote) with a photo ID to verify themselves. They go into a private booth and mark their choice on a paper ballot which they push into a secure box.

Anyone who is legitimately unable to get to a polling station (housebound due to illness or injury; stationed or working overseas) can apply in advance for an absentee ballot. Their identity will be verified and they will receive the ballot. This will be a tiny fraction of total voters.

At the end of the day, the secure boxes are taken to a local counting centre, where volunteers tally the votes in the open. Election scrutineers from both parties are free to observe as they wish. Each batch of ballots is overseen by two counters, one Republican and one Democrat, both of whom must sign off on the tally before it is added to the total..I guess Fux "News" neglected to mention this quote from Jimmy Carter: "I urge political leaders across the country to take immediate steps to expand vote-by-mail and other measures that can help protect the core of American democracy – the right of our citizens to vote," said former President Carter. https://www.cartercenter.org/news/pr/2020/united-states-050620.html.

Spidy
09-16-21, 06:23
Camala Harris last October, on vaccine: 'If Donald Trump Tells Us To Take It, I'm Not Taking It.'

Fast forward to post-election and she's singing a different tune. Completely shameless to play politics in the midst of a pandemic while people are dying.

Tell your sob story about how Trump kept you from being able to find hookers you can afford -- tell it to Camala Harris.What's completely shameful, is your blatant misrepresentation of her quote and completely taken out of context, when you only provided as a partial quote.

HARRIS on VACCINE: "If Donald Trump Tells Us to Take It, I'm Not Taking It"

and then immediately said;

"If the Doctors tell us that we should take it, I'll be the first in line to take it, absolutely." "But if Donald Trump tells us to take it, I'm not taking it.".

I for one, wouldn't believe a fucking word out of Agent Orange's Clorox bleach mouth, let alone take medical advice. Have at it, if wish to take medical advice from the "Orange Pied Piper".

GDreams
09-16-21, 11:13
Mail-in voting, particularly in democrat-run cities known for corruption and dysfunction, is a joke. Even the likes of Jimmy Carter and Elizabeth Warren said so: Carter in his 2005 bipartisan commission on voter fraud, which concluded that mail-in ballots were unsecure; and Warren just a couple of years back when she warned of the risk of vote-switching in the Dominion machines.

Of course now that it's their side which has capitalized on the above fraud, they've changed their tune and say it's all dandy. LOL.

Running a secure election is incredibly simple. Citizens register to vote if they wish to do so. They show up at the polling station on election day (all stations should be open from 7 am to 10 pm, so anyone who cares can find time to go vote) with a photo ID to verify themselves. They go into a private booth and mark their choice on a paper ballot which they push into a secure box..Poor republicans, how can they possibly win if they can't restrict polling booths in democratic areas so you have to queue for 5 hrs while in republican districts there is no wait. You will just have to cut down the number of post boxes and delay mail deliveries, oops already tried that. How can you possibly cheat if everyone has easy access to vote. I guess just complain how badly you lose when people are allowed to simply vote. Maybe come up with policies that work!

EihTooms
09-16-21, 13:49
What's completely shameful, is your blatant misrepresentation of her quote and completely taken out of context, when you only provided as a partial quote.

HARRIS on VACCINE: "If Donald Trump Tells Us to Take It, I'm Not Taking It"

and then immediately said;

"If the Doctors tell us that we should take it, I'll be the first in line to take it, absolutely." "But if Donald Trump tells us to take it, I'm not taking it.".

I for one, wouldn't believe a fucking word out of Agent Orange's Clorox bleach mouth, let alone take medical advice. Have at it, if wish to take medical advice from the "Orange Pied Piper".Thanks for pointing out the lie by omission he tried to float. Right up there with the deceptively edited videos of Biden where they cut it off when he takes 5 seconds to make sure he asserts something accurately and clearly as "evidence" of dementia. Lol.

Of course, the whole premise that some surgically extracted half a statement by Kamala Harris at a V.P. debate that 0.001% of Repub Trumpsters even watched, if that many, is the real reason the Freedumb From Vaccines and Masks loons are violently opposed to taking the vaccine their lord and savior spent almost a year assuring them "It's a Democrat Party HOAX! This will go away WITHOUT a vaccine!" etc etc etc while also mocking the mitigating measures is hilarious.

Certainly, those Winger Loons and their QAnon Repub Governors and Representatives in Congress snapped to and are obediently following and clinging to that half statement by Dem Harris virtually none of them actually heard in real time above all else. Lol.

Chris P
09-16-21, 14:58
Tell your sob story about how Trump kept you from being able to find hookers you can afford -- tell it to Camala Harris.The funny thing is that without affirmative action and Willie Brown, Harris would have been one of those hookers.

Chris P
09-16-21, 15:09
one Repub with less than a majority or even a plurality of the American vote can and did turn a likely manageable endemic in one geographic location into a Pandemic that destroyed economies worldwide, killed millions of people...WTF? Seriously? If this is satire, as I suspect your whole shtick is, you've gone beyond the fringe now.

Have you looked at a map of the world? The USA is 6% of the world's landmass and 4% of the world's population. The virus, such as it is, started in China, and spread throughout the world early in 2020. How in the name of Kamala Harris's roasty stinkhole was the president of the United States, whoever he would have been, supposed to prevent that?

We have already established that if there had been a democrat in the White House, they would *not* have stopped flights from China in January when Trump did so, despite having the same intel.

(Pelosi was Speaker and thus privy to intel briefings when she was touring San Francisco's Chinatown in February 2020 encouraging tourism, telling everyone to hug a Chinaman, and calling Trump xenophobic for blocking entry from China for all non-citizens).

So the virus would have penetrated far more quickly in January and February 2020 under a democrat than it did under Trump. Yet somehow, according to your brilliant logic, this imaginary democrat president would have single-handedly stopped the spread not only in the 6% of the world's landmass and 4% of the world's population over which he is the executive; but also the remaining 94/96% too!

Incredible. In the literal sense of the word.

ScatManDoo
09-16-21, 18:29
The funny thing is that without affirmative action and Willie Brown, Harris would have been one of those hookers.Now she rules over you.

PVMonger
09-16-21, 19:33
WTF? Seriously? If this is satire, as I suspect your whole shtick is, you've gone beyond the fringe now.

Have you looked at a map of the world? The USA is 6% of the world's landmass and 4% of the world's population. The virus, such as it is, started in China, and spread throughout the world early in 2020. How in the name of Kamala Harris's roasty stinkhole was the president of the United States, whoever he would have been, supposed to prevent that?

We have already established that if there had been a democrat in the White House, they would *not* have stopped flights from China in January when Trump did so, despite having the same intel.

(Pelosi was Speaker and thus privy to intel briefings when she was touring San Francisco's Chinatown in February 2020 encouraging tourism, telling everyone to hug a Chinaman, and calling Trump xenophobic for blocking entry from China for all non-citizens).

So the virus would have penetrated far more quickly in January and February 2020 under a democrat than it did under Trump. Yet somehow, according to your brilliant logic, this imaginary democrat president would have single-handedly stopped the spread not only in the 6% of the world's landmass and 4% of the world's population over which he is the executive; but also the remaining 94/96% too!

Incredible. In the literal sense of the word.The US has 4% of the world's population, that's true. What percentage of the world's COVID deaths do we have? 14.6%.

Yep, the former guy sure did a great job! Republicans still tout the speed at which the vaccines were developed yet most unvaccinated Republicans think the vaccines are worthless. Or contain magnets. Or tracking chips. Or some other useless argument.

Golfinho
09-16-21, 20:35
WTF? Seriously? If this is satire, as I suspect your whole shtick is, you've gone beyond the fringe now.

Have you looked at a map of the world? The USA is 6% of the world's landmass and 4% of the world's population. The virus, such as it is, started in China, and spread throughout the world early in 2020. How in the name of Kamala Harris's roasty stinkhole was the president of the United States, whoever he would have been, supposed to prevent that?

We have already established that if there had been a democrat in the White House, they would *not* have stopped flights from China in January when Trump did so, despite having the same intel.

(Pelosi was Speaker and thus privy to intel briefings when she was touring San Francisco's Chinatown in February 2020 encouraging tourism, telling everyone to hug a Chinaman, and calling Trump xenophobic for blocking entry from China for all non-citizens).

So the virus would have penetrated far more quickly in January and February 2020 under a democrat than it did under Trump. Yet somehow, according to your brilliant logic, this imaginary democrat president would have single-handedly stopped the spread not only in the 6% of the world's landmass and 4% of the world's population over which he is the executive; but also the remaining 94/96% too!

Incredible. In the literal sense of the word.Any hesitancy in closing the borders on Trump's part was due to the fact Democrats would have instantly accused him of racism and immediately demanded all flights resume.

Spidy
09-16-21, 23:02
The funny thing is that without affirmative action and Willie Brown, Harris would have been one of those hookers.What with your pathetic and putrid accounts of actual p4 p and / or hooker reports, I doubt you would even know what a hooker looks like, unless she was wearing a t-shirt that said "MAGA lovers screwed by Trump, get to fuck for free" ..kkk

EihTooms
09-17-21, 02:23
WTF? Seriously? If this is satire, as I suspect your whole shtick is, you've gone beyond the fringe now.

Have you looked at a map of the world? The USA is 6% of the world's landmass and 4% of the world's population. The virus, such as it is, started in China, and spread throughout the world early in 2020. How in the name of Kamala Harris's roasty stinkhole was the president of the United States, whoever he would have been, supposed to prevent that?

We have already established that if there had been a democrat in the White House, they would *not* have stopped flights from China in January when Trump did so, despite having the same intel.

(Pelosi was Speaker and thus privy to intel briefings when she was touring San Francisco's Chinatown in February 2020 encouraging tourism, telling everyone to hug a Chinaman, and calling Trump xenophobic for blocking entry from China for all non-citizens).

So the virus would have penetrated far more quickly in January and February 2020 under a democrat than it did under Trump. Yet somehow, according to your brilliant logic, this imaginary democrat president would have single-handedly stopped the spread not only in the 6% of the world's landmass and 4% of the world's population over which he is the executive; but also the remaining 94/96% too!

Incredible. In the literal sense of the word.Trump dramatically defunded the CDC and pulled all of their representatives from the job of monitoring to prevent and respond to evidence of viral spread in those Chinese labs in 2018 against all expert advice and warnings for him not to do something so
foolhardy, dangerous and stupid.

Then, when it was made clear to him by the provided intel in early 2020 that the worst fears of his stupidity were indeed coming into reality, instead of admitting his historically disastrous mistake and quickly announcing significant measures to try to correct it, he compounded the damage he created by lying to the world about the seriousness of it, the virulent human-to-human spread and all while mocking and denigrating the known mitigating measures to prevent it from spreading even more.

Thus is how a so-called potus can and did convert a likely manageable endemic mostly confined to one region of the world into the Trump's Pandemic it became.

Just 2 or 3 dots there. Not very complicated. I'll bet even you can connect them.

And every QAnon Repub Trump Clone now and in the future would without a doubt and without exception do exactly the same foolhardy, dangerous and stupid things regarding the next endemic virus, the one after that and the one after that.

Have you heard the con man artful way Trump "denies" being the major contributor in creating this Pandemic? LOL. He doesn't. He can't. The evidence against such a denial is overwhelming. The art is in avoiding the exceedingly uncomfortable but key detail entirely by deflection and diversion. He hopes no one even considers the topic or asks that critical question.

He only says, "This virus came out of China! I didn't bring it here! China did!" Which is true. But notice he has nothing to say about who made every possible foolhardy, dangerous and stupid decision from the most powerful position on the planet to turn it into the Trump's Pandemic it is today.

PVMonger
09-17-21, 14:29
Mail-in voting, particularly in democrat-run cities known for corruption and dysfunction, is a joke. Even the likes of Jimmy Carter and Elizabeth Warren said so: Carter in his 2005 bipartisan commission on voter fraud, which concluded that mail-in ballots were unsecure; and Warren just a couple of years back when she warned of the risk of vote-switching in the Dominion machines.

Of course now that it's their side which has capitalized on the above fraud, they've changed their tune and say it's all dandy. LOL.

Running a secure election is incredibly simple. Citizens register to vote if they wish to do so. They show up at the polling station on election day (all stations should be open from 7 am to 10 pm, so anyone who cares can find time to go vote) with a photo ID to verify themselves. They go into a private booth and mark their choice on a paper ballot which they push into a secure box..I am glad that you brought foreign countries into this discussion.

While I don't have experience in voting in the countries you mentioned, I am quite familiar with how voting goes in our southern neighbor, Mexico. And I guarantee that Mexico has policies that the QOP would hate.

Yes, Mexico requires a photo ID to vote and, yes, Mexico does not offer wide-spread vote-by-mail. But, to be fair, Mexpost is a joke anyway. So the QOP would love that.

But the QOP would hate the rest:

The Mexican version of the Federal Election Commission (the INE) issues voter IDs. IDs are free and there are even mobile ID centers. Yes, you need to provide identification but you can bring 2 witnesses if you don't have sufficient ID. Mexico makes it as easy as possible to obtain a voter ID card because it is the primary ID for almost everybody. The QOP would be apoplectic over all of this.

INE controls the voter rolls. The QOP would hate this.

By law, there is 1 polling place per 750 population. The QOP would really hate this.

By law, election day is on Sunday and it is a national holiday. The QOP would hate this.

By law, gerrymandering is illegal. The QOP would never stand for this!

So, how about the US implementing the Mexican system? Not a chance because the QOP would never win another election.

EihTooms
09-18-21, 00:26
Any hesitancy in closing the borders on Trump's part was due to the fact Democrats would have instantly accused him of racism and immediately demanded all flights resume.Since when did Trump ever shy away from endearing himself to his Repub base with a racist move or comment?

And we're all still waiting for the links showing Pelosi, Biden or the Dems in general demanding that Trump lift the flight restrictions (there was neer a ban) regarding Covid. It is talking so long I'm beginning to suspect there are none and all the repeated claims of such a thing are just, you know, bullshit.

Golfinho
09-18-21, 03:40
Since when did Trump ever shy away from endearing himself to his Repub base with a racist move or comment?.The Democrats had their priority: get Trump out of office. The pandemic was such a gift to them; what's a little collateral damage when most of the dead were probably Trump voters anyway. You have to give the Dems credit for not letting such a fine crisis go to waste.

Spidy
09-18-21, 09:35
Since when did Trump ever shy away from endearing himself to his Repub base with a racist move or comment? Yep! Par for the course for Agent Orange. Always at the ready, with Bible in hand and never one to waste a good opportunity to rise up and bombastically bloviate on right-wing dogma, misogynistic or racist tropes.

Member #4733
09-18-21, 10:24
Any hesitancy in closing the borders on Trump's part was due to the fact Democrats would have instantly accused him of racism and immediately demanded all flights resume.True, Trump is such a whiner.

PVMonger
09-18-21, 14:26
The Democrats had their priority: get Trump out of office. The pandemic was such a gift to them; what's a little collateral damage when most of the dead were probably Trump voters anyway. You have to give the Dems credit for not letting such a fine crisis go to waste.The QOP is the only political party in recorded history to support a policy that kills their supporters. In team sports, "addition by subtraction" often works, but it doesn't work in politics. And yet the QOP sheep keep falling for it, skin, baloney and all. Smh.

Elvis 2008
09-18-21, 21:47
The QOP is the only political party in recorded history to support a policy that kills their supporters. In team sports, "addition by subtraction" often works, but it doesn't work in politics. And yet the QOP sheep keep falling for it, skin, baloney and all. Smh.GOP killing their supporters huh? Jesus.

You douches have the presidency and both houses of Congress and you still will not shut up about the ills of the other side.

How is Trump responsible for the pandemic and not the Chinese and Fauci?

How about the drone strike killing innocent children?

How about the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan?

I thought Trump was totally to blame with Covid. How come people are still dying and getting sick with Covid? I thought that was going to end once Trump left.

And the vaccine mandate? How about you douches support laws passed by Congress (you have both houses) rather than making a law by presidential (dictatorial) decree?

You Democratic douches are so single minded you literally support a one party dictatorship like Russia or China. You salivate at and whack off to one party rule and blame all the other ills of the country on the other party.

By allowing your party to do whatever it wants no many how stupid, you douches literally crave dictatorship. WTF is wrong with you? People like you all who literally put party above all else really should not live here. You should go live in a nation with one party rule and see how that works out.

America's two greatest past times now are eating to excess and finger pointing, and it makes me sick.

Xpartan
09-19-21, 06:26
GOP killing their supporters huh? Jesus.

You douches have the presidency and both houses of Congress and you still will not shut up about the ills of the other side.

How is Trump responsible for the pandemic and not the Chinese and Fauci?

How about the drone strike killing innocent children?

How about the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan?

I thought Trump was totally to blame with Covid. How come people are still dying and getting sick with Covid? I thought that was going to end once Trump left.

And the vaccine mandate? How about you douches support laws passed by Congress (you have both houses) rather than making a law by presidential (dictatorial) decree?

You Democratic douches are so single minded you literally support a one party dictatorship like Russia or China. You salivate at and whack off to one party rule and blame all the other ills of the country on the other party.

By allowing your party to do whatever it wants no many how stupid, you douches literally crave dictatorship. WTF is wrong with you? People like you all who literally put party above all else really should not live here. You should go live in a nation with one party rule and see how that works out.

America's two greatest past times now are eating to excess and finger pointing, and it makes me sick.Every single "point" in this post is a misdirection in the best traditions of RT and Putin's Internet Research Agency.

Every single point is a deflection of Trump's own catastrophic mishandlings of everything he's touched.

"WTF is wrong with you" is a right question, but it's a deflection too. You should point this question to yourself and other Trump supporters. WTF are you people doing working so hard on discrediting and destroying our democratic institutions? What the fuck indeed?

Spidy
09-19-21, 10:23
Bob Enyart, another right-wing, anti-vaccine radio host dies from COVID, adding to a growing list of moronic pundits, railing against the invisible enemy, corona virus.

More on the list of Radio Hosts: https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/09/16/another-anti-vaccine-radio-host-is-killed-by-covid-adding-to-a-growing-list/.

Smoothy
09-19-21, 13:13
GOP killing their supporters huh? Jesus.

You douches have the presidency and both houses of Congress and you still will not shut up about the ills of the other side.

How is Trump responsible for the pandemic and not the Chinese and Fauci?

How about the drone strike killing innocent children?

How about the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan?

I thought Trump was totally to blame with Covid. How come people are still dying and getting sick with Covid? I thought that was going to end once Trump left.

And the vaccine mandate? How about you douches support laws passed by Congress (you have both houses) rather than making a law by presidential (dictatorial) decree?

You Democratic douches are so single minded you literally support a one party dictatorship like Russia or China. You salivate at and whack off to one party rule and blame all the other ills of the country on the other party.

By allowing your party to do whatever it wants no many how stupid, you douches literally crave dictatorship. WTF is wrong with you? People like you all who literally put party above all else really should not live here. You should go live in a nation with one party rule and see how that works out..I don't think any sensible human would argue any of what you said here. Well put.

Smoothy
09-19-21, 13:53
Bob EnyartI'd never heard of him. Thanks for sharing his name. Looking at some old videos of his, he looks to have done a lot of good in the community.

If you are into accurate news, this guy is much more entertaining and accurate. I listen to him daily and recommend him to anyone. Chris Plante. There's no need to get your news from any other source.

https://omny.fm/shows/the-chris-plante-show/playlists/podcast/embed?style=cover

As a baseball fan, I was sad to see that JR Richard died of Covid recently. He was a Democrat, but I mainly remember him as a fireballer pitcher for the Astros. He had a rough life with a lot of ups and downs. It seems he saw Biden and Kamala's early videos of them saying not to trust the vaccines since the vaccines were created during the Trump admin so he didn't get vaccinated. Damn shame.

RIP J. R.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._Richard

Chris P
09-19-21, 14:05
Every single "point" in this post is a misdirection in the best traditions of RT and Putin's Internet Research Agency.And yet you can't answer any of them. So you squawk "Russia!" without a shred of evidence, just like your fake news tells you to, in a failed attempt at obfuscation.

Spidy
09-19-21, 19:17
... It seems he saw Biden and Kamala's early videos of them saying not to trust the vaccines since the vaccines were created during the Trump admin so he didn't get vaccinated. Sure, I'll play along... So where's / what's your source for this, where Biden and Kamala Harris actually say this to the American public?

PVMonger
09-19-21, 19:37
GOP killing their supporters huh? Jesus.

You douches have the presidency and both houses of Congress and you still will not shut up about the ills of the other side.

How is Trump responsible for the pandemic and not the Chinese and Fauci?

How about the drone strike killing innocent children?

How about the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan?

I thought Trump was totally to blame with Covid. How come people are still dying and getting sick with Covid? I thought that was going to end once Trump left.

And the vaccine mandate? How about you douches support laws passed by Congress (you have both houses) rather than making a law by presidential (dictatorial) decree?

You Democratic douches are so single minded you literally support a one party dictatorship like Russia or China. You salivate at and whack off to one party rule and blame all the other ills of the country on the other party.The anti-vax and anti-mask crowd, the majority of whom are trumpers, are what is killing people. That's a fact. The majority of people who say they won't ever get vaccinated are trumpers. That's a fact. The majority of Republican congresspeople are spreading the anti-vax and anti-mask BS. The majority of people dying in hospitals are unvaccinated. Soooo, Republicans are advocating strategies that are killing their supporters.

Trumpers, of course, will say "Bbbbbbut trump said to get vaccinated". But he walked it all back when he was boo'ed.

The drone strike was an accident. At least Biden's military admitted it.

Why are you bitching about Afghanistan. You fascists don't want to admit them.

The Democrats, by the way, don't control both houses of Congress. There are 50 Republicans and 48 or so Democrats.

Maybe we are douches because douches get inside of a vagina.

Elvis 2008
09-19-21, 19:45
Bob Enyart, another right-wing, anti-vaccine radio host dies from COVID, adding to a growing list of moronic pundits, railing against the invisible enemy, corona virus.Sorry, the support for the Democratic douche method of saying everyone who does not get vaccinated is getting weaker and weaker. I am not anti-vaxx but I am anti you Democratic pretending you know health wise what is best for everyone, and I am very, very, very anti vax mandate.

Right now, the worst places for Covid are in countries that have been the most vaccinated.

When Delta first arrived, Israel had more Covid cases among vaccinated then nonvaccinated.

Israeli data showed that 4% of the unvaccinated cases got critically ill versus 2% of the vaccinated. As someone pointed out, that is misleading if you do not consider age and comorbid conditions but even with that, the vaccine prevented someone from getting seriously ill only one in 50 times it was given.

As for the Pfizer booster, side effects are terrible. 63.7% had fatigue. 48.4% suffered from headaches. 39.1% felt muscle pain.

Then you have this, Teenage boys are six times more likely to suffer from heart problems from the vaccine than be hospitalized from Covid-19, a major study has found. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/09/teenage-boys-risk-vaccines-covid/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1631205198.

Does the Covid vaccine prevent the spread of Covid? I do not know how anyone can look at the current data and say that it does. For now, it looks like it prevents hospitalization and death at best.

And now we are left with data that shows that one in 50 times the vaccine prevents someone from getting critically ill. That is a reason for some people to get the vaccine especially those in high risk groups but when you look at the side effects in low risk groups, IMO the side effects of the vaccine is more of a risk than catching Corona.

The only viruses eradicated are those who solely have human hosts like small pox. 67% of deer in Michigan now have antibodies to Covid:https://www.nbc15.com/2021/08/10/67-percent-white-tailed-deer-tested-michigan-had-covid-19-antibodies/.

So Covid is with us to stay. There may be short term herd immunity but there will be no long term herd immunity as long as the virus is harbored with other species and can mutate amongst them.

Given that the countries that have had the greatest reduction in Covid cases have been among the unvaccinated like Colombia and India, the government should get the hell out of telling people what to do.

Getting the Covid vaccine should be an individual decision a person should make while weighing risks and benefits with his or her doctor like every other health decision including abortion.

Of course, that does not fit the China loving, one party hugging, white male hating, Democratic douches who think they know what is best for everyone.

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Xpartan
09-19-21, 22:31
And yet you can't answer any of them. So you squawk "Russia!" without a shred of evidence, just like your fake news tells you to, in a failed attempt at obfuscation.Can't answer what? Your so-called questions have been answered in this forum ad nauseam, but it's hard to hear anything, I guess, when you stick your digits in your ears while screaming fake news at the top of your lungs.

Elvis 2008
09-19-21, 22:49
Can't answer what?Why is Biden pushing through a vaccine mandate using an emergency provision versus going through Congress and passing a law like it is supposed to be done? He is doing this even when the Congress is controlled by Democrats.

Elvis 2008
09-19-21, 23:03
The drone strike was an accident. At least Biden's military admitted it.
After they were caught lying about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lcoYKaNJ-4.

Xpartan
09-19-21, 23:15
Unlike other right-wing ultras leaving their marks in this thread, Elvis does monger. His mongering and travel-related tips are top-notch. Why he enjoys spreading this extreme, anti-science and anti-common-sense nonsense is beyond me.


Sorry, the support for the Democratic douche method of saying everyone who does not get vaccinated is getting weaker and weaker. I am not anti-vaxx but I am anti you Democratic pretending you know health wise what is best for everyone, and I am very, very, very anti vax mandate.

Right now, the worst places for Covid are in countries that have been the most vaccinated.BS! Where is the evidence?


When Delta first arrived, Israel had more Covid cases among vaccinated then nonvaccinated.That's but a statistical illusion.


Remember that a lot of Israelis are vaccinated, around 80 percent of the adult population. Thats important. If everyone were vaccinated, then all hospitalized people would be vaccinated and that obviously wouldnt mean vaccination was useless. In real-life Israel, as of Aug. 15 using Morriss summary of official data 301 fully vaccinated people had an illness severe enough to require hospitalization. They represented just 53 out of every million fully vaccinated Israelis. At the same time, 214 hospitalized people were not vaccinated. Those people made up a much bigger fraction of the smaller population of unvaccinated people: 164 out of every million. So an unvaccinated Israeli is about three times as likely to end up in the hospital as their vaccinated compatriot.https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/31/covid-israel-hospitalization-rates-simpsons-paradox/


Israeli data showed that 4% of the unvaccinated cases got critically ill versus 2% of the vaccinated. As someone pointed out, that is misleading if you do not consider age and comorbid conditions but even with that, the vaccine prevented someone from getting seriously ill only one in 50 times it was given.That's just BS.


As for the Pfizer booster, side effects are terrible. 63.7% had fatigue. 48.4% suffered from headaches. 39.1% felt muscle pain.First, what's your source? Second, how long do the side-effects persist? My elderly mother had side-effects after the booster for less than 48 hours. Is that the reason for your concerns? 48 hours?


Then you have this, Teenage boys are six times more likely to suffer from heart problems from the vaccine than be hospitalized from Covid-19, a major study has found. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/09/teenage-boys-risk-vaccines-covid/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1631205198.This is your first legit argument in the ocean of BS, however this study has not even been peer-reviewed.


Does the Covid vaccine prevent the spread of Covid? I do not know how anyone can look at the current data and say that it does. For now, it looks like it prevents hospitalization and death at best.This is beyond BS. It's lunacy.


And now we are left with data that shows that one in 50 times the vaccine prevents someone from getting critically ill. That is a reason for some people to get the vaccine especially those in high risk groups but when you look at the side effects in low risk groups, IMO the side effects of the vaccine is more of a risk than catching Corona.BBS -- lunacy!


The only viruses eradicated are those who solely have human hosts like small pox. 67% of deer in Michigan now have antibodies to Covid:https://www.nbc15.com/2021/08/10/67-percent-white-tailed-deer-tested-michigan-had-covid-19-antibodies/.WTF do deer have to do with anything?


So Covid is with us to stay. There may be short term herd immunity but there will be no long term herd immunity as long as the virus is harbored with other species and can mutate amongst them.Thank you for your invaluable input, Dr. Elvis, LOL.


Given that the countries that have had the greatest reduction in Covid cases have been among the unvaccinated like Colombia and India, the government should get the hell out of telling people what to do.Again: proof for your "greatest reduction" theory, please. Not that I really expect you to be able to prove this BS.


Getting the Covid vaccine should be an individual decision a person should make while weighing risks and benefits with his or her doctor like every other health decision including abortion.Tell you what: go live in a cave, don't ever, ever get close to anther human being (deer are fine), and you can stay unvaccinated till the day of your natural or unnatural death. Until then, screw your liberty.

MarquisdeSade1
09-19-21, 23:28
Yep! Par for the course for Agent Orange. Always at the ready, with Bible in hand and never one to waste a good opportunity to rise up and bombastically bloviate on right-wing dogma, misogynistic or racist tropes.Don't forget homophobic, transphobic, ableist, ageist, right handist, lookist, and baby & cute puppy eater.

SouthEaster
09-19-21, 23:59
"As for the Pfizer booster, side effects are terrible. 63.7% had fatigue. 48.4% suffered from headaches. 39.1% felt muscle pain." Seriously? This is what you describe as "terrible"? Terrible is being on a ventilator and getting long covid for a year. These symptoms are pretty much what most people experience from a about of the flu. What a pussy. I'd rather have any or all than be dead. Just sayin.

Elvis 2008
09-20-21, 01:09
Unlike other right-wing ultras leaving their marks in this thread, Elvis does monger. His mongering and travel-related tips are top-notch. Why he enjoys spreading this extreme, anti-science and anti-common-sense nonsense is beyond me.

BS! Where is the evidence?Right here, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/.

Israel was the highest vaccinated country in the world and had the highest rates of Covid. Look at first world countries that are highly vaccinated versus third world countries and the cases per million category. It is not even close.


First, what's your source? Second, how long do the side-effects persist? My elderly mother had side-effects after the booster for less than 48 hours. Is that the reason for your concerns? 48 hours?It is the FDA. See the link: https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/9/19/22679443/pfizer-side-effects-covid-vaccine-booster.

The point I was making was not how long or how severe the side effects are but that there are risks to the vaccine.


That's but a statistical illusion.No, it is a fact that at the same time Israel had more cases per capita than any nation on earth it was the most vaccinated, and that fact does not fit the Democratic narrative.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/31/covid-israel-hospitalization-rates-simpsons-paradox/

Your link is saying the same thing I did. Yes, you can say you are twice as likely to get hospitalized if you do not have the vaccine, 4% versus 2% in Israel. You can also say that the vaccine prevents one hospitalization for every 50 people who get it as of now, and there is no guarantee even that number holds up.


WTF do deer have to do with anything?It shows Fauci is lying again. There was all this crap about herd immunity and percentage vaccinated. The notion was that if we get to a certain % of people with vaccinated immunity (and natural immunity did not count) that we could resume our lives as they were. Now that there is Covid among deer, cats, and dogs, you can throw out that notion. No one has a fucking clue how big the herd is.

Now tell me how the fuck are deer getting Covid? And how do we stop the spread of Covid when it was supposedly in bats and pangolins and jumped to humans? If you support the idea that the vaccine is going to prevent the spread then shouldn't you have to vaccinate all the deer, bats, and pangolins too? Aren't they part of the herd?

This whole thing is such bullshit, and you know who agrees with me? The head of the CDC: https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-vaccine-updates-08-05-21/h_d2accec79fdc37f422d02c536828ea1e.

"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well," Walensky told CNN's Wolf Blitzer in reference to fully vaccinated people who get breakthrough infections. "They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death – they prevent it. But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission. ".

Wait a second! Aren't unvaccinated Republicans killing vaxxed Democrats and those advocating against the vaccine killing people too? You douches have been running with that narrative for so long you do not even get that it has not proven to be true.


Tell you what: go live in a cave, don't ever, ever get close to anther human being (deer are fine), and you can stay unvaccinated till the day of your natural or unnatural death. Until then, screw your liberty.This is an idiotic comment and shows you being the Democratic douches that I loathe. MSNBC propaganda does not equal fact. Blaming Covid on Republicans which you douches have done since day one does not help anything All you are doing is politicizing a health issue. Getting the vaccine is like any other health issue, a decision that should be weighed by measuring risks and benefits per the individual getting or not getting it. Now that we know the vaccine does not prevent the spread of Covid, the government should not be mandating a fucking thing.

And what I do not get about you douches on this forum is how you totally reject the government's stance on sexuality, on women, and on prostitution, and yet you run to them on other health matters and believe everything they say. Why wouldn't the government use the CDC and other health organizations to lie and support its stance on sexuality? Show me a peer reviewed article that supports the polyamorous lifestyle that so many guys here lead and are fine. Do you expect a study about the damages of a toxic wife? Of divorce being so devastating for most men they should never marry? Shit, all I see is this bullshit about how married men live longer.

It is a fact the CDC lied about the AIDS numbers and how rare it was spread heterosexually in the late 80's and early 90's. It is a fact that latex allergies have been diminished and the studies showing the ineffectiveness of condoms in STD prevention has been buried.

That is the part with you douches I will never get. You fuck boat loads of women bare and go to other countries to do it and yet swallow up every bit of BS the government and Fauci put out with Covid. How do you all live and support sexual freedom and yet demand that others get the Covid vaccine at gun point especially now that vaccines have not been shown to prevent the spread of Covid?

You should look at every potentially political government health decision with a grain of salt just like you did with sexuality.

MarquisdeSade1
09-20-21, 02:04
Unlike other right-wing ultras leaving their marks in this thread, Elvis does monger. His mongering and travel-related tips are top-notch. Why he enjoys spreading this extreme, anti-science and anti-common-sense nonsense is beyond me.

BS! Where is the evidence?

That's but a statistical illusion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/31/covid-israel-hospitalization-rates-simpsons-paradox/

That's just BS.

First, what's your source? Second, how long do the side-effects persist? My elderly mother had side-effects after the booster for less than 48 hours..https://amgreatness.com/2021/09/14/freedom-at-any-price/

I remember after 9/11 the left said liberty is paramount, now the right says that.

Kinda like pro-choice my body my choice, why doesn't that apply to vaxes?

Too much hypocrisy for me, that's why I don't belong to the left or right, but sides are full of toxic shit.

PVMonger
09-20-21, 04:24
Right here, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/.

Israel was the highest vaccinated country in the world and had the highest rates of Covid. Look at first world countries that are highly vaccinated versus third world countries and the cases per million category. It is not even close.

It is the FDA. See the link: https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/9/19/22679443/pfizer-side-effects-covid-vaccine-booster.

The point I was making was not how long or how severe the side effects are but that there are risks to the vaccine.

No, it is a fact that at the same time Israel had more cases per capita than any nation on earth it was the most vaccinated, and that fact does not fit the Democratic narrative.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/31/covid-israel-hospitalization-rates-simpsons-paradox/

Your link is saying the same thing I did. Yes, you can say you are twice as likely to get hospitalized if you do not have the vaccine, 4% versus 2% in Israel. You can also say that the vaccine prevents one hospitalization for every 50 people who get it as of now, and there is no guarantee even that number holds up.

It shows Fauci is lying again. There was all this crap about herd immunity and percentage vaccinated. The notion was that if we get to a certain % of people with vaccinated immunity (and natural immunity did not count) that we could resume our lives as they were. Now that there is Covid among deer, cats, and dogs, you can throw out that notion. No one has a fucking clue how big the herd is.

Now tell me how the fuck are deer getting Covid? And how do we stop the spread of Covid when it was supposedly in bats and pangolins and jumped to humans? If you support the idea that the vaccine is going to prevent the spread then shouldn't you have to vaccinate all the deer, bats, and pangolins too? Aren't they part of the herd?.BS contention #1: The Israel's case count is higher than 3rd world countries. Do you remember when trump said "We do too much testing. With more testing you get more cases"? Well, that's what is happening in this instance. Israel tests everyone. Third world countries are so poor that they can't. Most third world countries have 10 x more cases than are reported, at least.

BS Contention #2: Deer, etc. Who cares? Do you have proof that the deer, etc. Have infected humans? If not, you are simply howling at the moon. As usual.

BS Contention #3: The vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. True. It doesn't. But here's what it does do. It prevents hospitalization and death, for the most part. The vast majority of hospitalizations and deaths are the unvaccinated who are, primarily, MAGAts. One thing you trumpers forget about science is that science is always changing. Trumpers say "that's lying". What it is is BS.

BS Contention #4: The remainder of your nonsense. One of the tenets of conservatism is "You've got to live with your choices. " It is every trumper's right to remain unvaccinated. It is their employer's right to fire their sorry asses if they aren't vaccinated. Tough. Being unemployed is a consequence of a trumper's vaccination decision. The QOP conveniently forgets lots of things when it comes to vaccination. Most school children need to be vaccinated. All the military need to be vaccinated.

All I wish is that the unvaccinated trumpers would volunteer to work in a COVID ward. For a month. Without PPE. And to decline medical assistance when they get COVID. But they won't. They're too scared.

PVMonger
09-20-21, 04:31
Why is Biden pushing through a vaccine mandate using an emergency provision versus going through Congress and passing a law like it is supposed to be done? He is doing this even when the Congress is controlled by Democrats.Newsflash: it takes 60 Senators to approve non-budget legislation. How many Senators are Democrats, how many are Republicans and how many Republicans are likely to vote for a vaccine mandate?

You have posted some imbecilic things here but this takes the cake!

Spidy
09-20-21, 05:48
Don't forget homophobic, transphobic, ableist, ageist, right handist, lookist, and baby & cute puppy eater.Hey, "if the shoe fits..." You called it and you seem to have a knack for it. But don't stop there, sounds like you're just getting started with your "Trumpisms"..kkk!

Check these out, if you're so inclined:

https://www.antiextremememes.co.uk/list-trumps-15-wildest-trumpisms/

https://www.jdjournal.com/2015/09/23/25-most-outrageous-trumpisms/

Spidy
09-20-21, 06:19
Sorry, the support for the Democratic douche method of saying everyone who does not get vaccinated is getting weaker and weaker. I am not anti-vaxx but I am anti you Democratic pretending you know health wise what is best for everyone, and I am very, very, very anti vax mandate...Dude, you're missing the point. I don't give a shit, what THEY or YOU, DO or DON'T want to put into your own body.

It's when anti-vaxxer / anti-masker ignorant fools, get on the air waves and bloviate, espouse and spew their so called COVID medical knowledge, to trusting Americans, is when it becomes problematic for the general public at large and specifically the medical profession and hospitals.

The case of longtime conservative talker and anti-vaxxer, Dick Farrel, best sums it up, when he was dying from COVID and said,
"...COVID is no joke, I wish I had gotten vaccinated! Apparently, Farrel was suddenly not willing to die for his previously held convictions, as he spoke to one of his close friends, Amy Leigh Hair and encouraged her to get the shot, shortly before his death.

PedroMorales
09-20-21, 10:03
Dude, you're missing the point. I don't give a shit, what THEY or YOU, DO or DON'T want to put into your own body.

It's when anti-vaxxer / anti-masker ignorant fools, get on the air waves and bloviate, espouse and spew their so called COVID medical knowledge, to trusting Americans, is when it becomes problematic for the general public at large and specifically the medical profession and hospitals.

The case of longtime conservative talker and anti-vaxxer, Dick Farrel, best sums it up, when he was dying from COVID and said, Apparently, Farrel was suddenly not willing to die for his previously held convictions, as he spoke to one of his close friends, Amy Leigh Hair and encouraged her to get the shot, shortly before his death.The more I read, the happier I am not to be vaccinated. I had a bad dose of Covid and I am aware of actual fascists taking dying people out of hospitals to protect (sic) them from Covid. I a meeting a vulnerable friend tomorrow who is vaccinated and whose entire family had COVID.

None of that changes anything. These are experimental shots making Big Pharma richer and changing our way of life.

It is a last throw of the dice by the USA to control the world, now that its military got booted out of Afghanistan and is facing defeat squaring up to China. Isn't it strange, in all your talk of American politics, you lot never talk about the ongoing genocides you commit. ? Your addiction to Big Pharma is so typical: another blanket to protect you from the world, just like your nuclear arsenal. Small dick syndrome.

Chris P
09-20-21, 14:29
I am glad that you brought foreign countries into this discussion.

While I don't have experience in voting in the countries you mentioned, I am quite familiar with how voting goes in our southern neighbor, Mexico.

Yes, Mexico requires a photo ID to vote and, yes, Mexico does not offer wide-spread vote-by-mail.So as I said, Mexico requires in-person voting with photo ID. As do all democracies that are serious about election integrity. Thanks for backing me up, whether you realized it or not.

Chris P
09-20-21, 14:35
"As for the Pfizer booster, side effects are terrible. 63.7% had fatigue. 48.4% suffered from headaches. 39.1% felt muscle pain." Seriously? This is what you describe as "terrible"? Terrible is being on a ventilator and getting long covid for a year. These symptoms are pretty much what most people experience from a about of the flu. What a pussy. I'd rather have any or all than be dead. Just sayin.Lucky that covid has a 99.9% survival rate then, eh? And the average age of death is 85 with multiple comorbidities, IE was about to kick the bucket anyway.

That average includes all the fake "covid deaths" of people who died in car crashes, heart attacks or many other reasons, who happened to test positive for covid in the hospital (probably because they caught it there). So the real average covid death is even older, sicker and closer to death's door than even that.

Chris P
09-20-21, 14:38
The US has 4% of the world's population, that's true. What percentage of the world's COVID deaths do we have? 14.6%.

Yep, the former guy sure did a great job! Republicans still tout the speed at which the vaccines were developed yet most unvaccinated Republicans think the vaccines are worthless.Once again your blinkered mind entirely misses the point. The previous post to which I was replying claimed that not just a few percentage points here or there but the entire worldwide pandemic and every single death *in the world* was the fault of President Trump.

Never mind the Chinese who allowed the virus out of the lab and out of their country, or Fauci who funded its development. It was such a ludicrously foolish statement, even by the standards of the bonkers Bolsheviks on this board, it needed to be called out.

As to the 14% figure, many third world countries don't have any idea how many covid deaths they have. Old, sick people die of covid, and nobody knows. By contrast, in the US the figures are inflated to include everyone who dies with covid, not just of it. Most notoriously the victim of an auto accident was classed a covid death because he tested positive while in the hospital. Ditto for many other sick people dying of something else, who catch it in hospital.

So the real figure for the US is far lower than 14%. Probably around half of that, which is what you would expect given age demographics.

Finally, the least vaccinated group in the US is blacks. Last time I checked, most of them aren't Republican voters. But facts don't matter to Bolsheviks, as we have seen with the Michael Brown hoax, the Fentanyl Floyd hoax, the Russia collusion hoax, the mail-in ballot hoax, the Global Warming we're all going to die in 10 years hoax, and so many more.

Chris P
09-20-21, 14:41
Right here, https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/.

Israel was the highest vaccinated country in the world and had the highest rates of Covid. Look at first world countries that are highly vaccinated versus third world countries and the cases per million category. It is not even close.

It is the FDA. See the link: https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/9/19/22679443/pfizer-side-effects-covid-vaccine-booster.

The point I was making was not how long or how severe the side effects are but that there are risks to the vaccine.

No, it is a fact that at the same time Israel had more cases per capita than any nation on earth it was the most vaccinated, and that fact does not fit the Democratic narrative.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/31/covid-israel-hospitalization-rates-simpsons-paradox/...Excellent forensic post. It will go way over the heads of the usual douches but it will persuade any fair and open-minded reader.

Chris P
09-20-21, 14:45
Can't answer what? Your so-called questions have been answered in this forum ad nauseam.Actually, they haven't. Particularly this one, which I've asked several times but to which I'm yet to receive an answer. Why not have a go? Deep breath.

Trump shut down flights from China on January 31, 2020. The democrats opposed this, with Pelosi going round telling everyone to hug a Chinaman, and Biden calling it "xenophobic". Would the democrat policy of allowing thousands of covid-infected Chinese to fly into the country daily have:

A) increased, or.

B) reduced.

The spread of covid? No need for a long-winded answer which nobody will read, just A or b. Thanks.

PVMonger
09-20-21, 18:14
So as I said, Mexico requires in-person voting with photo ID. As do all democracies that are serious about election integrity. Thanks for backing me up, whether you realized it or not.Mexico does not require in person voting. Mexicans can vote by mail though not easily.

But you, of course, didn't respond to any of my other points. Probably because you can't.

Mexico's version of the Federal Election Commission issues the only valid voter ID card. That's so that states can't issue idiotic requirements like "the only valid ID is a hunting license". The QOP is against this.

By law, Mexico must have at least 1 polling place per 750 people. This makes voting easy so the QOP hate this idea.

Mexico's election day falls on a Sunday and is a national holiday. This makes voting easy so the QOP hate this idea.

By law gerrymandering is forbidden. The QOP would never allow this.

So, since you are into people answering either / or questions:

A. Would you accept all of the Mexican-style requirements in the US; or.

B. Would you not accept all of the Mexican-style requirements in the US?

PVMonger
09-20-21, 18:22
Lucky that covid has a 99.9% survival rate then, eh? And the average age of death is 85 with multiple comorbidities, IE was about to kick the bucket anyway.

That average includes all the fake "covid deaths" of people who died in car crashes, heart attacks or many other reasons, who happened to test positive for covid in the hospital (probably because they caught it there). So the real average covid death is even older, sicker and closer to death's door than even that.Here's a chart from Mike Pence's state. Posted by their Department of Health.

PVMonger
09-20-21, 18:42
Actually, they haven't. Particularly this one, which I've asked several times but to which I'm yet to receive an answer. Why not have a go? Deep breath.

Trump shut down flights from China on January 31, 2020. The democrats opposed this, with Pelosi going round telling everyone to hug a Chinaman, and Biden calling it "xenophobic". Would the democrat policy of allowing thousands of covid-infected Chinese to fly into the country daily have:

A) increased, or.

B) reduced.

The spread of covid? No need for a long-winded answer which nobody will read, just A or b. Thanks.Neither Pelosi or Biden said those things. https://www.statesman.com/news/20200330/fact-check-did-biden-call-trump-lsquoxenophobicrsquo-for-china-travel-restrictions and https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trumps-false-claims-about-pelosi-and-chinatown/ You are lying. Period.

I an attaching a chart from Science Magazine. Notice the dates on "Line #1" (the solid black line). Blows your "the travel bandaid worked" BS out of the water because it shows the virus from China arriving after donnie's bandaid. Oops! Also notice the dates on the solid yellow line. It shows that the European mutation was here a month before trump decided to shut down travel from Europe.

Typical trump: a day late and a dollar short!

Xpartan
09-20-21, 20:25
Neither Pelosi or Biden said those things. https://www.statesman.com/news/20200330/fact-check-did-biden-call-trump-lsquoxenophobicrsquo-for-china-travel-restrictions and https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trumps-false-claims-about-pelosi-and-chinatown/ You are lying. Period.If Chris and his ilk stop lying they will never be able to utter another word again, and they need their fix.

PVMonger
09-20-21, 21:24
Actually, they haven't. Particularly this one, which I've asked several times but to which I'm yet to receive an answer. Why not have a go? Deep breath.

Trump shut down flights from China on January 31, 2020. The democrats opposed this, with Pelosi going round telling everyone to hug a Chinaman, and Biden calling it "xenophobic". Would the democrat policy of allowing thousands of covid-infected Chinese to fly into the country daily have:

A) increased, or.

B) reduced.

The spread of covid? No need for a long-winded answer which nobody will read, just A or b. Thanks.You said that "Trump shut down flights from China on January 31,2020." If so, why did so many Chinese arrive after that? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/us/coronavirus-china-travel-restrictions.html.

In other words, this is just more of your usual BS. But everybody here is used to that.

Spidy
09-20-21, 22:05
. . . Isn't it strange, in all your talk of American politics, you lot never talk about the ongoing genocides you commit. ? Your addiction to Big Pharma is so typical: another blanket to protect you from the world, just like your nuclear arsenal. Small dick syndrome. Say what now? No idea what point your trying to make with that incoherent conspiracy rant and no idea who you're referring to when you say "...you lot never talk about the ongoing genocides you commit. ?" Care to be more specific?

Dude, as for "small dicks", or whatever metaphor you're trying to make...have at it. Pussy is the main reason I am here.

Golfinho
09-20-21, 22:55
The more I read, the happier I am not to be vaccinated. I had a bad dose of Covid.... a vulnerable friend tomorrow who is vaccinated and whose entire family had COVID.

None of that changes anything. These are experimental shots making Big Pharma richer and changing our way of life.
Your addiction to Big Pharma is so typical: another blanket to protect you from the world, just like your nuclear arsenal. Small dick syndrome.Natural immunity is the best defense. Of course no word from Big Pharma on that.

Big Pharma has bought the politicians and secured protections for its patents. This doesn't necessarily mean the American people are addicted to these pharma products pushed by self-serving Sackler's and their ilk.

Substitute iron dome for nuclear arsenal and you would however be completely accurate if you were referencing Izreal, home of the most medicated population on the planet, where with covid, they are medicating themselves the death. They are the world's petri dish.

MarquisdeSade1
09-21-21, 00:38
If a Democratic 2024 presidential primary were to happen without Biden, then Vice President Harris starts out as the frontrunner with 29% of likely voters supporting her candidacy.

In second, Michelle Obama earns 17% of the vote, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the-and. Why. , garners 7%, USA Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg comes in at 7%, and Georgia's Stacey Abrams earns 5%.

https://www.newsmax.com/mclaughlin/polling-mclaughlin-trump/2021/09/20/id/1037125/

Elvis 2008
09-21-21, 00:38
Newsflash: it takes 60 Senators to approve non-budget legislation. How many Senators are Democrats, how many are Republicans and how many Republicans are likely to vote for a vaccine mandate?

You have posted some imbecilic things here but this takes the cake!Congress making laws is imbecilic? It takes the cake? Wow! Yeah, PVMonger, if it cannot get through Congress, then it should not be a law. Imagine that.

It is funny to see someone who cheers on in real life a dictatorship, who wants the destruction of civil rights. With qualified immunity and the DOJ under executive control, the Constitution is a literal joke. The executive branch can violate the Constitution whenever it wants to.

And you brag about firing people who are making a personal choice in not getting a vaccine?

Like I said though, the thing that gets me with you dictator loving douches (you are no longer Democratic douches) like you is why do you leave the country to get pussy? I leave because American policies with regards to prostitution are bat shit crazy, cut you cannot say that because you worship the dictatorship.

The military (and I am not even going to put this on Biden and it may be his fault) commits a war crime and kills children and no one is fired, and you cheer them on because in your warped mind Trump would somehow be worse.

The military under Biden kills 10 innocent people in a drone strike, and with this tragedy somehow, you find a way to bash Trump. WTF is wrong with you? Clearly, you lack the capacity to determine right and wrong. Everything with you is red and blue.