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It's good to see that you have your priorities straight! Wink It's also good that our side of the isle has someone as dogged as say Canada / Cali Guy, so someone can take a break for a few months, come back, and be sure of having plenty to read.
That said I'll play the devil's advocate for a moment. There's a lot of different measurements when it comes to a president's economic report card. For example if you pick just one while ignoring the others, and beat that drum loud enough then voila! You have an argument, or at least a talking point. But even that doesn't tell us the sorts of jobs created under Carter. How do the numbers hash out when it comes to pay? How many part time? And if there was a recession you can just blame it on the previous guy by focusing on the negative bullet points on his economic resume. This is why so many political arguments involve talking past one another.
Also, what about "Lincoln's Civil War?" Arguably he provoked the armed conflict with his refusal to abandon Ft Sumter, even though the north had withdrawn from other southern forts. Readings of the letters home of southern soldiers reveals more of a local mindset, that they were fighting to repell an invasion with little mention of slavery. Only 25% of southern families owned slaves. Though the slavery question was the clear reason for succession as seen in the minutes of a number of state governments, so any claims that the war wasn't over that are absurd..I think your devil's advocate nuance points were reasonably valid before Reagan's first presidential term. Hell, I was a lazy Bothsider in those days and voted for Reagan in 1980 on the assumption that, good economy or horrific economy, I guess it's just the luck of the draw, economic cycles, whatever, it really doesn't matter which party is in control and I applied all those nuanced excuses and allowances you mentioned to my unfortunate decision.
I was wrong about that.
And, after all, in pre-Reagan 1980 we only had Great Depression Massive Jobs Destruction Hoover, Three Recessions and Horrible Jobs Creator Eisenhower and Long National Nightmare, Recession and Middling Jobs Creator Nixon and Ford to go on during modern times. The pattern had just begun.
I thought, surely the Repub Party had learned the lesson that their economic stewardship of the past was crap and it was time for serious change and improvement.
I was wrong about that.
But, good lord. By the time Reagan got his way and Crashed us into his Great Reagan / Repub Recession, the worst since the one Hoover and at least 2 Repubs before him produced and presided over, then Bush1 got his way and produced the Long Recession and his horrible jobs creation record, then Bush2 got his way and produced the Great Bush2/ Repub Recession replacing Reagan's as the worst since Hoover's and his massive jobs destruction, then Trump got his way and produced the Great Trump / Repub Recession replacing Bush2's as the worst since Hoover's and his massive jobs destruction, one can no longer cling to some idealistic, "fair and balanced", gee let's consider the nuances here before jumping to conclusions, nonsensical Bothsiderism anymore.
And the fact that no Repub has proposed, passed or presided over legislation that has produced any of the various record high boom times and historic jobs creation of the past 100 years or so further drives home the by now blatantly obvious reality that we are dealing with a 100 years long pattern that defies all possible nuance, benefit of the doubt or Bothsidersim excuses:
When Dems get their way, America wins in terms of, among other positive things, historic economic expansion, growth and record high jobs creation.
By stark contrast, when Repubs get their way, America loses in terms of severe economic downturns, Great Depressions or Great Recessions and massive jobs destruction.
I appreciate the effort to suggest there might be some interesting nuances that we ought to factor in here and there. But I submit there is no one nuance or a thousand that could possibly alter that unchangeable and iron clad above stated pattern in the past, present or future.
ScatManDoo
12-29-21, 09:16
CNN, Chris Cuomo.
NBC, Matt Lauer, Tom Brokaw.
FUX, Jamie Horowitz, Charles Payne, Roger Ailes, Bill O'Reilly, Judy Slater, Bob Beckel (fired for racist comments), Kimberly Guilfoyle (she left and her accuser was paid $4 million).
Score: CNN 1, NBC 2, FUX 6 or 7.
At least us "socialists" can count. The MAGA cult just makes stuff up.I must not be getting all the news.
Tom Brokaw?
What did he do?
Surprised he still gets it up.
I also don't recognize most of the Fux names, but don't really care.
Here's an interesting read.
https://www.tulane.edu/~sumter/Reflections/LinWar.html
The unvaccinated idiots (who are mostly Republican) won't get vaccinated, won't wear masks, won't socially distance, are against mandates of any kind other than mandates to not wear masks, to not socially distance and to not get vaccinated.
The only real Federal solution would be to round them all up and incarcerate them in concentration camps. But that's not possible 'cause that's what the fascist MAGA cult would have done. Hence no Federal solution.
The funny thing is that the MAGA cult will poke fun of this yet they have no solutions either, other than howling at the moon.There is no national solution left for Biden to legally enact because he has already solved Trump's Pandemic problem in America by making sure every American who wants to avoid getting seriously ill from it, requiring hospitalization for it or dying from it could do so anytime they wanted.
Even Trump essentially shrugs off any real problem with what Biden has done to deal with Trump's Pandemic in America, steps on his cult followers' idiotic bit about "more people dying now than under you, Dear Leader!" and dismisses what we have now as just a pandemic among the unvaccinated, no biggie. He certainly isn't going to lose any sleep over that situation and neither should anyone else.
Yeah, Trump's cult followers will continue clog up the healthcare system with their easily avoidable hospitalizations often leading to death and thereby cause unnecessary deaths of responsible, vaccinated Americans who die for lack of timely medical attention.
But Trumpsters are into causing their fellow Americans to suffer and die unnecessarily anyway from "2nd Amendment Solutions" so if it wasn't this way it would be another. At least this way many unvaccinated Repubs will also permanently remove themselves from the voter rolls along the way. Hard to find a downside in that.
Elvis 2008
12-29-21, 17:30
The unvaccinated idiots (who are mostly Republican) won't get vaccinated, won't wear masks, won't socially distance, are against mandates of any kind other than mandates to not wear masks, to not socially distance and to not get vaccinated.Did Biden run on just saving Democratic lives? The guy ran on his having a plan and yesterday his plan, whatever the hell it is, bore real fruit as the USA hit a new record in cases, 442,000. USA! USA!
And if your red-blue mask wearing crap is true, then whey does New York have 800,000+ cases of Covid now while Texas has less than 200,000?
The irony is there is a Democrat with a plan that works, and his name is Robert F Kennedy JR and his book is #1 at Amazon right now. Of course, he unveils the real Democratic plan with this one line "In 2020, workers lost $3. 7 trillion while billionaires gained $3.9 trillion."
The NYT and Biden's "it is all Republican's fault" line is a distraction from his own incompetence and of course, you douches bought it. The plans robs you of your own wealth and you fools were screaming your support of it.
So tell me what is RFK's plan? And what Biden's is and why you are in favor of sticking with the Biden plan?
Here's an interesting read.
https://www.tulane.edu/~sumter/Reflections/LinWar.htmlAnd since the MAGA cult members believe that the Republican party has never, ever changed one bit, this means that Republicans are, and always have been, war mongers.
Oops.
ScatManDoo
12-30-21, 04:38
Did Biden run on just saving Democratic lives? The guy ran on his having a plan and yesterday his plan, whatever the hell it is, bore real fruit as the USA hit a new record in cases, 442,000. USA! USA!
And if your red-blue mask wearing crap is true, then whey does New York have 800,000+ cases of Covid now while Texas has less than 200,000?Biden is successfully vaccinating America.
Biden's success is shown by maintaining adequate hospital capacity, which TrumpShit failed at.
If they need to triage out the foolish unvaccinated, since they've become lost causes.
Did Biden run on just saving Democratic lives? The guy ran on his having a plan and yesterday his plan, whatever the hell it is, bore real fruit as the USA hit a new record in cases, 442,000. USA! USA!
And if your red-blue mask wearing crap is true, then whey does New York have 800,000+ cases of Covid now while Texas has less than 200,000?
The irony is there is a Democrat with a plan that works, and his name is Robert F Kennedy JR and his book is #1 at Amazon right now. Of course, he unveils the real Democratic plan with this one line "In 2020, workers lost $3. 7 trillion while billionaires gained $3.9 trillion."
The NYT and Biden's "it is all Republican's fault" line is a distraction from his own incompetence and of course, you douches bought it. The plans robs you of your own wealth and you fools were screaming your support of it.
So tell me what is RFK's plan? And what Biden's is and why you are in favor of sticking with the Biden plan?11 months ago Biden had a plan. 11 months later cases are skyrocketing and USA does not have enough test kits. People were lined up for miles and hours trying to get tested today. Biden plan must have been do nothing and hope it goes away. 3 vaccines and a year later we are worse off than we were in 2020. What a douche bag failure.
There is no national solution left for Biden to legally enact because he has already solved Trump's Pandemic problem in America by making sure every American who wants to avoid getting seriously ill from it, requiring hospitalization for it or dying from it could do so anytime they wanted.
Even Trump essentially shrugs off any real problem with what Biden has done to deal with Trump's Pandemic in America, steps on his cult followers' idiotic bit about "more people dying now than under you, Dear Leader!" and dismisses what we have now as just a pandemic among the unvaccinated, no biggie. He certainly isn't going to lose any sleep over that situation and neither should anyone else.
Yeah, Trump's cult followers will continue clog up the healthcare system with their easily avoidable hospitalizations often leading to death and thereby cause unnecessary deaths of responsible, vaccinated Americans who die for lack of timely medical attention.
But Trumpsters are into causing their fellow Americans to suffer and die unnecessarily anyway from "2nd Amendment Solutions" so if it wasn't this way it would be another. At least this way many unvaccinated Repubs will also permanently remove themselves from the voter rolls along the way. Hard to find a downside in that.How has he solved it? It is worse today than it was a year ago. Vaccinated people are getting the virus along with unvaccinated. Biden has done nothing but offer vaccines to the public.
Did Biden run on just saving Democratic lives? The guy ran on his having a plan and yesterday his plan, whatever the hell it is, bore real fruit as the USA hit a new record in cases, 442,000. USA! USA!
And if your red-blue mask wearing crap is true, then whey does New York have 800,000+ cases of Covid now while Texas has less than 200,000?
The irony is there is a Democrat with a plan that works, and his name is Robert F Kennedy JR and his book is #1 at Amazon right now. Of course, he unveils the real Democratic plan with this one line "In 2020, workers lost $3. 7 trillion while billionaires gained $3.9 trillion."
The NYT and Biden's "it is all Republican's fault" line is a distraction from his own incompetence and of course, you douches bought it. The plans robs you of your own wealth and you fools were screaming your support of it.
So tell me what is RFK's plan? And what Biden's is and why you are in favor of sticking with the Biden plan?There is no irony. There still lots of Republican scammers who all want to get in on the former guy's grift and lots Republican morons with more money than sense.
Did Biden run on just saving Democratic lives? The guy ran on his having a plan and yesterday his plan, whatever the hell it is, bore real fruit as the USA hit a new record in cases, 442,000. USA! USA!
And if your red-blue mask wearing crap is true, then whey does New York have 800,000+ cases of Covid now while Texas has less than 200,000?
The irony is there is a Democrat with a plan that works, and his name is Robert F Kennedy JR and his book is #1 at Amazon right now. Of course, he unveils the real Democratic plan with this one line "In 2020, workers lost $3. 7 trillion while billionaires gained $3.9 trillion."
The NYT and Biden's "it is all Republican's fault" line is a distraction from his own incompetence and of course, you douches bought it. The plans robs you of your own wealth and you fools were screaming your support of it.
So tell me what is RFK's plan? And what Biden's is and why you are in favor of sticking with the Biden plan?Biden has saved the lives of millions of Americans smart enough to take the vaccines he made free and easily available to every American.
If the math shows a very high percentage of the Americans smart enough to have done that are Democrats and a very high percentage of Americans too stupid to have done that are Republicans, that isn't Biden's fault.
Maybe you should blame whoever the so-called potus was that worked mightily for almost all of critical year 2020 to convince stupid people that Trump's Pandemic virus was a hoax, under control, was disappearing, would be gone by the Fall of that year and repeatedly assured them it would go away without a vaccine, so no reason to bother taking one.
He of all people knew very well which side of the Smart vs Stupid scale were his Republican followers who would surely believe his hogwash.
How has he solved it? It is worse today than it was a year ago. Vaccinated people are getting the virus along with unvaccinated. Biden has done nothing but offer vaccines to the public.It is not worse today. No vaccine for an airborne virus can prevent a positive infection test result. They are meant to protect against serious illness, hospitalization and death due to infection.
Serious illness, hospitalization and death from being infected by Trump's Pandemic virus among those who are fully vaccinated by the vaccines Biden made free and easily available to every American is extremely low.
That is a tremendous medical science and competent national leadership success.
You should be thanking Biden and science for that remarkable success and lamenting the fact that there were so many stupid people who fell for Trump's hogwash.
Texas and Florida still rank higher than California and New York for Trump's Pandemic virus cases per 100,000 residents:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/
That is a remarkable statistic considering the greater number of densely populated cities in the latter two lower cases states vs the former two higher cases states.
The irony is there is a Democrat with a plan that works, and his name is Robert F Kennedy JR and his book is #1 at Amazon right now. Of course, he unveils the real Democratic plan with this one line "In 2020, workers lost $3. 7 trillion while billionaires gained $3.9 trillion."Remind me. Which party controlled the Presidency and Senate in 2020?
Weekly jobless claims total 198,000, less than expected and around 52-year low
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/30/weekly-jobless-claims-total-198000-less-than-expected.html?__source=androidappshare
Weekly jobless claims totaled 198,000 for the week ended Dec. 25.
That was below the 205,000 forecast and near the lowest level since 1969.
Continuing claims also fell, dropping to 1.72 million for their lowest total since March 7, 2020.U.S. oil production set to increase further in 2022, energy expert Dan Yergin says
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/30/us-oil-production-to-increase-further-in-2022-oil-expert-dan-yergin.html?__source=androidappshare
"For the last year, year and a half, its been OPEC+ running the show, but U.S. production is coming back already, and its going to come back more in 2022, said oil expert Daniel Yergin.
Output could rise as much as 900,000 barrels per day, he told CNBCs Squawk Box Asia on Wednesday.
Yergin also discussed the Jan. 10 security talks between U.S. and Russian officials.New Studies Raise Hopes That Vaccines Prevent Severe Disease From Omicron.
In the lab, immune cells put up a strong fight against Omicron, suggesting that vaccines will be able to prevent the worst outcomes of the virus variant.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/15/health/omicron-vaccine-severe-disease.html
Of course, many of FUX News Channel's regular viewers they convinced not to get vaccinated won't be around to enjoy these outcomes anyway. Oh well. The much, much larger viewership of MSNBC, CNBC and NBC Nightly News will be.
ScatManDoo
12-30-21, 17:57
Texas and Florida still rank higher than California and New York for Trump's Pandemic virus cases per 100,000 residents:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/
That is a remarkable statistic considering the greater number of densely populated cities in the latter two lower cases states vs the former two higher cases states.If you look up the word uncivilized, you get the following:
Uncouth coarse rough boorish vulgar philistine uneducated uncultured uncultivated benighted unsophisticated unrefined unpolished ill-bred ill-mannered thuggish loutish barbaric barbarian barbarous primitive savage wild brutish Neanderthal in a state of nature rude.
Different levels of civilization maybe?
Elvis 2008
12-31-21, 03:39
Texas and Florida still rank higher than California and New York for Trump's Pandemic virus cases per 100,000 residents:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109004/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rate-us-americans-by-state/
That is a remarkable statistic considering the greater number of densely populated cities in the latter two lower cases states vs the former two higher cases states.Sigh. Here are the facts.
President Biden may not recall what he said during a 2020 campaign debate last fall, but Americans should:
"Anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America."
At the time the USA Had recorded 220,000 Covid deaths.
"If the president had done his job, had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive," Mr. Biden said last fall.
So, what happened when Joe-Biden-The-Science-Guy stepped in?
352,000 Americans died of / from COVID in 2020 under Trump (without vaccines available).
474,000 American died of / from COVID in 2021 under Biden (with vaccines available).
As WSJ notes, we recount all this not to blame Mr. Biden for this year's Covid deaths. The truth last year and this year is that the virus is impossible for any politician to control, much less eliminate.
Mr. Biden used the illusion he could vanquish the virus to win election, and he is now paying a political price because he hasn't.
And the claim that the vaccines saved lives looks pretty dubious as well.
Given the douche red-blue comparison, which is all the Democratic douches have left, let me do another. California has 134,000 deaths per million, and Nigeria has 1,000 deaths per million so Nigeria has politicians and health care systems 100 X better than California.
So Brandon do you have an answer for this and how bad California is doing?
"There is no federal solution. This gets solved at a state level."
Don't you mean at an African level? What did Nigeria say about why things are so good there? Uh, Brandon, I mean Biden. Oops, sorry he is asleep.
Oh he woke up. "Mr. President, let's go Brandon."
"I agree. Hey Jill, why the eye roll?
Elvis 2008
12-31-21, 03:42
https://nypost.com/2021/12/24/biden-says-i-agree-when-dad-drops-lets-go-brandon-on-call/
It is funny how everyone went off on this father in order to cover for Sleepy Joe. Biden does not even know what let's go Brandon means.
In the former guy's first year, the S&P 500 hit 62 records and ended up 17% higher.
During Biden's first year, the S&P 500 hit 70 record highs and finished up 29% higher.
The S&P 500 is the index most used by investors so, of course, supporters of the former guy will crow about the DJIA. But, I guess the former guy was wrong about that too since he said that the market would crash if Biden was elected. Oops. He was wrong. Again. Like always.
In the former guy's first year, the S&P 500 hit 62 records and ended up 17% higher.
During Biden's first year, the S&P 500 hit 70 record highs and finished up 29% higher.
The S&P 500 is the index most used by investors so, of course, supporters of the former guy will crow about the DJIA. But, I guess the former guy was wrong about that too since he said that the market would crash if Biden was elected. Oops. He was wrong. Again. Like always.Market is strong because Biden policies failed. Biden did nothing and Manchin killing BBB enduring markets would stay strong because of strong economic policies of Trump. Biden was only able to cripple the energy market by cancelling pipelines and drilling permits on federal land. It was only temporary as oil prices doubled in his first year and by end of year he had huge sale of offshore oil leases contradicting his first move. Yes we can thank Biden for one thing and he did it well. He virtually did nothing and it worked making my clients millions.
Sigh. Here are the facts.
President Biden may not recall what he said during a 2020 campaign debate last fall, but Americans should:
"Anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America."
At the time the USA Had recorded 220,000 Covid deaths.
"If the president had done his job, had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive," Mr. Biden said last fall.
So, what happened when Joe-Biden-The-Science-Guy stepped in?
352,000 Americans died of / from COVID in 2020 under Trump (without vaccines available).
474,000 American died of / from COVID in 2021 under Biden (with vaccines available).
As WSJ notes, we recount all this not to blame Mr. Biden for this year's Covid deaths. The truth last year and this year is that the virus is impossible for any politician to control, much less eliminate.
Mr. Biden used the illusion he could vanquish the virus to win election, and he is now paying a political price because he hasn't.
And the claim that the vaccines saved lives looks pretty dubious as well.Great post to sum up the failure of Biden presidency.
Weekly jobless claims total 198,000, less than expected and around 52-year low
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/30/weekly-jobless-claims-total-198000-less-than-expected.html?__source=androidappshare
U.S. oil production set to increase further in 2022, energy expert Dan Yergin says
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/30/us-oil-production-to-increase-further-in-2022-oil-expert-dan-yergin.html?__source=androidappshare
New Studies Raise Hopes That Vaccines Prevent Severe Disease From Omicron.
In the lab, immune cells put up a strong fight against Omicron, suggesting that vaccines will be able to prevent the worst outcomes of the virus variant.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/15/health/omicron-vaccine-severe-disease.html
Of course, many of FUX News Channel's regular viewers they convinced not to get vaccinated won't be around to enjoy these outcomes anyway. Oh well. The much, much larger viewership of MSNBC, CNBC and NBC Nightly News will be.Yes oil production will go up in 2022 thanks to Biden. Biden first executive order tried to kill the oil industry and drilling stopped so oil production went down 1,000,000 barrels a day. Creating a shortage. Biden policies doubled oil prices and now with oil prices double and Biden reversing his executive order on drilling permits the drilling will increase. It will increase back to 12,000,000 barrels per day as it was in Trump presidency. But USA consumers are paying the price with $4-5 gas. Only people not hurt is the ones like us that bought oil stocks when Biden crippled the industry.
Elvis 2008
12-31-21, 17:21
In the former guy's first year, the S&P 500 hit 62 records and ended up 17% higher.
During Biden's first year, the S&P 500 hit 70 record highs and finished up 29% higher.
The S&P 500 is the index most used by investors so, of course, supporters of the former guy will crow about the DJIA. But, I guess the former guy was wrong about that too since he said that the market would crash if Biden was elected. Oops. He was wrong. Again. Like always.Well as you will soon see, the difference is the Fed printed up trillions that went into the market, and it is pulling back now.
Hell, Elon Musk went on a podcast and sold 10% of her stock and said that his company Tesla was not worth $1 trillion.
My finance guys are getting ready to say we have a hit a top. One said 5% inflation would kill the market, and we are there. There was a belief that the Fed could print up all this money and not cause inflation. Wrong.
Anyway, predicting the market is lower in 2022 is more on the Fed than anything else, but I am 90% sure it will be down in 2022.
So if the market is down in 2022, are you douches going to own that, or you going to blame it on Trump? Like we do not already know.
Brandon's Covid totals are horrible, and I think the WSJ was being charitable in saying it was not Brandon's fault but the fault of the virus but Biden campaigned on it a declining virus total.
If the number of Covid cases was half of what it was in 2020, you would be shouting about how great Biden is. Now that it is markedly higher, it is not the virus nor China nor Biden's fault, somehow all the 2021 deaths were on Trump.
Do you get how stupid that makes you look? Any good number is due to Biden, and bad one is on Trump. I do not know why you guys even post this crap anymore. It makes you look like asses.
So if we give Biden credit the market is up in 2021, and the market goes down in 2022, can we all agree that said market decline is on Biden?
Sigh. Here are the facts.
President Biden may not recall what he said during a 2020 campaign debate last fall, but Americans should:
"Anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America."
At the time the USA Had recorded 220,000 Covid deaths.
"If the president had done his job, had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive," Mr. Biden said last fall.
So, what happened when Joe-Biden-The-Science-Guy stepped in?
352,000 Americans died of / from COVID in 2020 under Trump (without vaccines available).
474,000 American died of / from COVID in 2021 under Biden (with vaccines available).
As WSJ notes, we recount all this not to blame Mr. Biden for this year's Covid deaths. The truth last year and this year is that the virus is impossible for any politician to control, much less eliminate.Trump is still responsible for creating Trump's Pandemic in all its past, current and future variants and every death from it going all the way back to when he paved the way for it to happen in 2018 against all expert advice and warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous and every disastrous decision of his through 2020.
Biden's accurate statement still stands; Trump was and still is "responsible" for all the deaths, Biden is "responsible" for none of them.
Elvis 2008
12-31-21, 17:49
In the former guy's first year, the S&P 500 hit 62 records and ended up 17% higher.
During Biden's first year, the S&P 500 hit 70 record highs and finished up 29% higher.
The S&P 500 is the index most used by investors so, of course, supporters of the former guy will crow about the DJIA. But, I guess the former guy was wrong about that too since he said that the market would crash if Biden was elected. Oops. He was wrong. Again. Like always.Well as you will soon see, the difference is the Fed printed up trillions that went into the market, and it is pulling back now.
Hell, Elon Musk went on a podcast and sold 10% of her stock and said that his company Tesla was not worth $1 trillion.
My finance guys are getting ready to say we have a hit a top. One said 5% inflation would kill the market, and we are there. There was a belief that the Fed could print up all this money and not cause inflation. Wrong.
Anyway, predicting the market is lower in 2022 is more on the Fed than anything else, but I am 90% sure it will be down in 2022.
So if the market is down in 2022, are you douches going to own that, or you going to blame it on Trump? Like we do not already know.
Brandon's Covid totals are horrible, and I think the WSJ was being charitable in saying it was not Brandon's fault but the fault of the virus but Biden campaigned on it a declining virus total.
If the number of Covid cases was half of what it was in 2020, you would be shouting about how great Biden is. Now that it is markedly higher, it is not the virus nor China nor Biden's fault, somehow all the 2021 deaths were on Trump.
Do you get how stupid that makes you look? Any good number is due to Biden, and bad one is on Trump. I do not know why you guys even post this crap anymore. It makes you look like asses.
So if we give Biden credit the market is up in 2021, and the market goes down in 2022, can we all agree that said market decline is on Biden?
It is a rare pleasure when a Winger-leaning Mainstream Media source simply states the obvious and thereby acknowledges not just one but two Democratic Party Presidents' historic superior economic results.
Notice; "going back to Carter."
Biden's Economic Performance Has Proved Unbeatable.
No first-year president going back to Carter comes close to matching the current White House occupants No. 1 or No. 2 ranking in each of 10 key measures.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-12-20/president-biden-s-economic-performance-has-proved-unbeatable
U.S. financial markets are outperforming the world by the biggest margin in the 21st century, and with good reason: Americas economy improved more in Joe Biden's first 12 months than any president during the past 50 years notwithstanding the contrary media narrative contributing to dour public opinion.
...
All of which makes Biden's first year in the White House the standout among the seven previous presidents, based on 10 market and economic indicators given equal weight. According to data compiled by Bloomberg, no one comes close to matching Biden's combination of No. 1 and No. 2 rankings for each of the measures:
Gross domestic product (1)
Profit growth (1)
S&P 500 performance (2)
Consumer credit (1)
Non-farm payrolls (2)
Manufacturing jobs (2)
Business productivity (2)
Dollar appreciation (2)
S&P 500 relative performance (2)
...
GDP growth in every incoming administration during the past four decades never exceeded 2.74% until 2021. Biden is now positioned to surpass Carter (5.01%) as the GDP champion of presidents since 1976.Or, as Repubs and fake FUX News anchors would put it, "Biden and the Dems further destroying America"!
Sigh. Here are the facts.
President Biden may not recall what he said during a 2020 campaign debate last fall, but Americans should:
"Anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America."
At the time the USA Had recorded 220,000 Covid deaths.
"If the president had done his job, had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive," Mr. Biden said last fall.
So, what happened when Joe-Biden-The-Science-Guy stepped in?
352,000 Americans died of / from COVID in 2020 under Trump (without vaccines available).
474,000 American died of / from COVID in 2021 under Biden (with vaccines available).
As WSJ notes, we recount all this not to blame Mr. Biden for this year's Covid deaths. The truth last year and this year is that the virus is impossible for any politician to control, much less eliminate.
Mr. Biden used the illusion he could vanquish the virus to win election, and he is now paying a political price because he hasn't.You obviously have forgotten the timeline here.
Who was president when schools were closed, many places of business were closed, etc? The former guy. Therefore, it must be your contention that all of the measures put into place during his administration worked, right? Lockdowns obviously worked, yet I distinctly remember you and the other Republicans on this board saying that lockdowns didn't work.
Which is it? Since there were fewer deaths under the former guy (when we were locked down), lockdowns clearly worked, didn't they?
Biden figured (wrongly, of course) that once vaccines were made available, everybody would take them. Democrats did. Independents did. But hard-core turmpers refused which is why the vast majority of unvaccinated are trumpers.
And since you claim that the vaccines don't work, who was president when the vaccines were developed? Who should shoulder the blame if the vaccines don't work?
Sigh. Here are the facts.
President Biden may not recall what he said during a 2020 campaign debate last fall, but Americans should:
"Anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America."
Sigh indeed!
Who could've imagined in the fall of 2020 that we would soon have two perfectly safe and effective vaccines and yet the vast number of die-hard Republicans would stubbornly refuse to take them for mind-blowingly idiotic pseudo-political reasons?
Who's been doing most of the dying in 2021, Elvis?
Let me help.
Unvaccinated 14 Times More Likely to Die From COVID.
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211124/unvaccinated-14-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid
Of those 474,000 dead, how many hundreds of thousands have died due to their own stupidity?
Aside from not standing in the way of the vaccine development, Trump's did everything he could to downplay and sabotage the fight against Covid.
Biden is doing everything he can to fight Covid within the framework of our judicial system.
Yep we're still a democracy for now, at least until the midterm elections. What the fuck is Biden supposed to do? Shoot them in the head for refusing to get a vaccine?
So tired of those political hypocrites and their mind tricks.
Sigh indeed!
Who could've imagined in the fall of 2020 that we would soon have two perfectly safe and effective vaccines and yet the vast number of die-hard Republicans would stubbornly refuse to take them for mind-blowingly idiotic pseudo-political reasons?
Who's been doing most of the dying in 2021, Elvis?
Let me help.
Unvaccinated 14 Times More Likely to Die From COVID.
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211124/unvaccinated-14-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid
Of those 474,000 dead, how many hundreds of thousands have died due to their own stupidity?
Aside from not standing in the way of the vaccine development, Trump's did everything he could to downplay and sabotage the fight against Covid..2021 is over. Who could have imagined Biden / Harris were totally incompetent. Who could have imagined that 2021 would have been this bad. Starting with XL Pipeline cancelled and cancellation of Trump border policies moving on to Afghanistan disaster then high gas prices, then supply chain catastrophe creating highest inflation in 40 years. Not to forget Biden having no clue on Covid and more people dying under his presidency than Trump presidency when there was no vaccine. Who could have imagined that in one year Biden is already worst president in history and Harris is worst Vice President in history. I think 74 million smart people knew in 2020. Now 210 million people know. Some will never learn.
Market is strong because Biden policies failed. Biden did nothing and Manchin killing BBB enduring markets would stay strong because of strong economic policies of Trump. Biden was only able to cripple the energy market by cancelling pipelines and drilling permits on federal land. It was only temporary as oil prices doubled in his first year and by end of year he had huge sale of offshore oil leases contradicting his first move. Yes we can thank Biden for one thing and he did it well. He virtually did nothing and it worked making my clients millions.Evidently you forgot that your guy (the former twice-impeached so-called potus) said during a presidential debate that the markets would crash if Biden was elected.
What part of the former guy's comment did you not understand?
Guess what? It didn't happen. The market didn't crash. So, the former guy was wrong. Again. You can spin this anyway you want but the end result will still be the same. Trump lied. Again.
Evidently you forgot that your guy (the former twice-impeached so-called potus) said during a presidential debate that the markets would crash if Biden was elected.
What part of the former guy's comment did you not understand?
Guess what? It didn't happen. The market didn't crash. So, the former guy was wrong. Again. You can spin this anyway you want but the end result will still be the same. Trump lied. Again.Trump said market would crash with Biden policies. Biden did nothing and market didn't crash. Thank the few smart democrats in the senate like Manchin and Sinema for the strong market.
Trump is still responsible for creating Trump's Pandemic in all its past, current and future variants and every death from it going all the way back to when he paved the way for it to happen in 2018 against all expert advice and warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous and every disastrous decision of his through 2020.
Biden's accurate statement still stands; Trump was and still is "responsible" for all the deaths, Biden is "responsible" for none of them.If the virus starts in China and China spreads it all over the world then you think Trump should be blamed for all USA deaths. Is Trudeau to blame for all Canada deaths. Who is to blame for the 2 or 3 million Chinese deaths and a million Russian deaths. Fortunately there can't be more than one stupid person in the world that could believe this.
It is a rare pleasure when a Winger-leaning Mainstream Media source simply states the obvious and thereby acknowledges not just one but two Democratic Party Presidents' historic superior economic results.
Notice; "going back to Carter."
Biden's Economic Performance Has Proved Unbeatable.
No first-year president going back to Carter comes close to matching the current White House occupants No. 1 or No. 2 ranking in each of 10 key measures.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-12-20/president-biden-s-economic-performance-has-proved-unbeatable
Or, as Repubs and fake FUX News anchors would put it, "Biden and the Dems further destroying America"!Until 2021 300,000,000 people in USA conceded that Carter was worst president ever. Now close to 200,000,000 think Biden has surpassed Carter. It is very hard to explain to the uneducated, criminals, homeless and illegal left wingers.
ScatManDoo
01-01-22, 04:43
Evidently you forgot that your guy (the former twice-impeached so-called potus) said during a presidential debate that the markets would crash if Biden was elected.
What part of the former guy's comment did you not understand?
Guess what? It didn't happen. The market didn't crash.Next you're going to tell me that Jon Jon was not resurrected in Dallas last month.
Party pooper.
ScatManDoo
01-01-22, 04:53
Who's been doing most of the dying in 2021, Elvis?
Let me help.
Unvaccinated 14 Times More Likely to Die From COVID.I would bet on the odds getting even more favorable in 2022.
Winning trends.
Market is strong because Biden policies failed. Biden did nothing and Manchin killing BBB enduring markets would stay strong because of strong economic policies of Trump. Biden was only able to cripple the energy market by cancelling pipelines and drilling permits on federal land. It was only temporary as oil prices doubled in his first year and by end of year he had huge sale of offshore oil leases contradicting his first move. Yes we can thank Biden for one thing and he did it well. He virtually did nothing and it worked making my clients millions.
It is a rare pleasure when a Winger-leaning Mainstream Media source simply states the obvious and thereby acknowledges not just one but two Democratic Party Presidents' historic superior economic results.
Notice; "going back to Carter."
Biden's Economic Performance Has Proved Unbeatable.
No first-year president going back to Carter comes close to matching the current White House occupants No. 1 or No. 2 ranking in each of 10 key measures.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-12-20/president-biden-s-economic-performance-has-proved-unbeatable
Or, as Repubs and fake FUX News anchors would put it, "Biden and the Dems further destroying America"!Further from the link:
Exceptional returns from dollar-denominated assets, especially the S&P 500 Index in both absolute terms and relative to its global counterparts, can be attributed to record-low debt ratios enabling companies to reap the biggest profit margins since 1950. Corporate America is booming because the Biden administration's Covid-19 vaccination programs and $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan reduced the jobless rate to 4.2% in November from 6.2% in February, continuing an unprecedented rate of decline during the Covid-19 pandemic.
Consider that real, or inflation adjusted, gross domestic product surged at an average annual rate of 5.03% in each of the first three quarters of 2021, and is poised to expand 5.6% for the year based on the average estimate of more than 80 economists surveyed Bloomberg. If that forecast proves accurate, it would be more than 2.8 times the average between 2000 and 2019 and double the average since 1976.
...
The good times may extend into 2022. Biden's bipartisan $1.2 trillion Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act bodes well for the economy and American labor because it will rebuild the nation's deteriorating roads and bridges as well as fund climate and broadband initiatives that create jobs. Even Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who said his priority was preventing the Biden agenda, voted for the law along with 18 fellow Republicans.
Biden, like Carter, now faces the political fallout of the accelerating inflation from global supply chain breakdowns associated with the pandemic even though maintaining stable inflation and interest rates are the primary responsibility of the Federal Reserve, and the Fed said it's prepared to tighten monetary policy in 2022..BTW, the graphs from the non partisan official sites in that link are a joy to behold showing the consistent superior results of Biden, Carter and other Dems over the past 50+ years on the metrics that matter most.
As usual, the positive results for the Dems are dampened and appear less great than they actually were in that so many of them, especially Obama and Biden, took office just as the worst of the previous outgoing Repub administration's Great Repub Crash and Massive Jobs Destruction events were taking place and the resultant stink overlapped into the incoming Dem administration's calculated years. Which means the incoming Dem's overall results numbers took the hit for the failed outgoing Repub administration's horrific economic stewardship. And, naturally, that well known century's old pattern also meant the great recovery and positive trajectories established by the outgoing Dem administrations and handed to the incoming Repub administrations on a platter unfairly improved the recorded results for the incoming Repub before they got their way and typically fuck up everything. However, even with that undeserved assistance the Repub results still wind up atrocious on most of the important metrics.
2021 is over. Who could have imagined Biden / Harris were totally incompetent. Who could have imagined that 2021 would have been this bad. Starting with XL Pipeline cancelled and cancellation of Trump border policies moving on to Afghanistan disaster then high gas prices, then supply chain catastrophe creating highest inflation in 40 years. Not to forget Biden having no clue on Covid and more people dying under his presidency than Trump presidency when there was no vaccine. Who could have imagined that in one year Biden is already worst president in history and Harris is worst Vice President in history. I think 74 million smart people knew in 2020. Now 210 million people know. Some will never learn.Who could have imagined that the cultists would be willfully ignorant enough to refuse to get vaccinated? Who could have imagined that the cultists would blame for XL Pipeline cancellation (due to be completed in 10 years) for rising gasoline prices when the rest of the world knows that OPEC production is a primary driver of gasoline prices? Who could have imagined that two years of ordering stuff on-line would have any impact of the supply chain? Who could have imagined that the cult is still trying to re-write history?
81 million smarter people knew in 2020. That's why they kicked the twice-impeached grifter to the curb.
Elvis 2008
01-01-22, 17:08
Sigh indeed!
Who could've imagined in the fall of 2020 that we would soon have two perfectly safe and effective vaccines and yet the vast number of die-hard Republicans would stubbornly refuse to take them for mind-blowingly idiotic pseudo-political reasons?
Who's been doing most of the dying in 2021, Elvis?
Let me help.
Unvaccinated 14 Times More Likely to Die From COVID.
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20211124/unvaccinated-14-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid120,000+ more deaths under your guy despite the vaccine, and you are still buying the Kool Aid on it. The two days with the most vaccinated people there have ever been with the vaccine, December 30 and 31, are the two days where there were the most cases of Covid, and you still are thinking the vaccine is great.
Biden is doing everything he can to fight Covid within the framework of our judicial system.Biden is doing all he can to transfer wealth to billionaires, literally robbing you blind, and you are too clueless to see it. Robert F Kennedy JR wrote a whole book on this very topic, and you have no clue what RFK is talking about.
As for your death statistic, do you know what covid related deaths are? No, I mean literally how do you prove them? How do you know if people died with Covid versus from Covid? It is not like the media would ever confuse those terms right?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI5E8z89c9U
The irony of course is that Brandon threw in the towel. He ran on something he could not possible defeat. Your guy comes in and is a failure by his own definition and he throws out the only line he can, "It's Republican's fault" the virus ran rampant, and you dumb douches buy it hook, line, and sinker.
It is a fucking virus. It is incurable. So what next? Oh yeah, he is going to make the planet cooler. And if it is cooler, he is going to take credit for it and if not, it is the fault of those damned Republicans.
And you douches will buy that shit too.
Further from the link:
BTW, the graphs from the non partisan official sites in that link are a joy to behold showing the consistent superior results of Biden, Carter and other Dems over the past 50+ years on the metrics that matter most.
As usual, the positive results for the Dems are dampened and appear less great than they actually were in that so many of them, especially Obama and Biden, took office just as the worst of the previous outgoing Repub administration's Great Repub Crash and Massive Jobs Destruction events were taking place and the resultant stink overlapped into the incoming Dem administration's calculated years. Which means the incoming Dem's overall results numbers took the hit for the failed outgoing Repub administration's horrific economic stewardship. And, naturally, that well known century's old pattern also meant the great recovery and positive trajectories established by the outgoing Dem administrations and handed to the incoming Repub administrations on a platter unfairly improved the recorded results for the incoming Repub before they got their way and typically fuck up everything. However, even with that undeserved assistance the Repub results still wind up atrocious on most of the important metrics.https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-s-p-500-rang-up-68-records-in-bidens-1st-year-heres-how-stock-market-returns-stack-up-for-the-46th-president-against-others-11640969701?siteid=yhoof2
I know that the rightwingnuts on this board will try to spin this every which way but correctly, but the proof is in the results. Especially the overall ones as listed below. The average market performance, since Hoover are: Republicans -1.2%, Democrats +14.2%.
But the wingers, of course, will say something else.
ScatManDoo
01-01-22, 19:25
Until 2021 300,000,000 people in USA conceded that Carter was worst president ever. Now close to 200,000,000 think Biden has surpassed Carter. It is very hard to explain to the uneducated, criminals, homeless and illegal left wingers.Last time I looked.
It was 81 million happy faces.
Laughing at 74 million sad frowns.
If the virus starts in China and China spreads it all over the world then you think Trump should be blamed for all USA deaths. Is Trudeau to blame for all Canada deaths. Who is to blame for the 2 or 3 million Chinese deaths and a million Russian deaths. Fortunately there can't be more than one stupid person in the world that could believe this.Trump's Pandemic didn't become a Pandemic until Trump laid the groundwork for any virulent viral spread the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams could have been prevented or responded to in a timely manner were not prevented or responded to in a timely manner beginning in 2018 and then he used all of his influence as potus on the world stage throughout critical year 2020 to ensure it would spread unabated everywhere on the planet and become the Trump's Pandemic it is today.
Trudeau wasn't the President of the United States of America who did that. Trump was.
Until 2021 300,000,000 people in USA conceded that Carter was worst president ever. Now close to 200,000,000 think Biden has surpassed Carter. It is very hard to explain to the uneducated, criminals, homeless and illegal left wingers.If 200,000,000 or 300,000,000 people in the USA are that misinformed about the facts, then typically pro Repub Mainstream Media pundits have been more effective at promoting the lie that "Repubs are better at handling the economy than Dems" than even I thought.
The good news is, despite the sad fact that you have been suckered for decades by Mainstream Media lying about that to help their darling Repubs win elections, as of this day you now know the truth and can never be suckered by them in that way again.
You're welcome.
Now, do the right thing for America and pass along this new discovery for you to everyone you know and meet.
Is California still a Republican state? California has had twice as many people die in 2021 than in 2020 without the vaccine. With California voting 70 per cent democrat I would assume more democrats are dying in California than Republicans. Obviously what Biden and Newsome have done it was twice as bad as Trump. One of the headlines on yahoo this morning.
NBC News: Vaccine mistrust, variants and multiple case and death spikes all plagued headlines in 2021. Even though vaccines became widely available for people ages 5 and older, along with booster shots for the 16 and older population, California still saw an increase in COVID-19 cases and deaths this year compared to last year.
As of Thursday, California reported more than 2. 8 million cases and nearly 50,000 deaths in 2021. By Dec. 31,2020, there were more than 2. 2 million cases and 25,000 deaths reported, according to the COVID Tracking Project.
Just this week, California became the first state to surpass 5 million total COVID-19 cases in the United States.
Who could have imagined that the cultists would be willfully ignorant enough to refuse to get vaccinated? Who could have imagined that the cultists would blame for XL Pipeline cancellation (due to be completed in 10 years) for rising gasoline prices when the rest of the world knows that OPEC production is a primary driver of gasoline prices? Who could have imagined that two years of ordering stuff on-line would have any impact of the supply chain? Who could have imagined that the cult is still trying to re-write history?
81 million smarter people knew in 2020. That's why they kicked the twice-impeached grifter to the curb.Like I said some will never learn. Obviously you are one of them.
Like I said some will never learn. Obviously you are one of them.Yes, I am proudly one of the 81+ million people who kicked the twice-impeached grifter to the curb.
The 74+ million who voted for the former guy are the fools because they ignorantly believe that the election was stolen and all the rest of the winger media lies. Thanks for reminding everybody of that.
If 200,000,000 or 300,000,000 people in the USA are that misinformed about the facts, then typically pro Repub Mainstream Media pundits have been more effective at promoting the lie that "Repubs are better at handling the economy than Dems" than even I thought.
The good news is, despite the sad fact that you have been suckered for decades by Mainstream Media lying about that to help their darling Repubs win elections, as of this day you now know the truth and can never be suckered by them in that way again.
You're welcome.
Now, do the right thing for America and pass along this new discovery for you to everyone you know and meet.You can't change history. Carter was the worst president ever. It is a fact that 200,000,000 know. But now he is not. Biden has already taken the crown after only one year. Pretty impressive. This isn't mainstream media. It is common knowledge. Besides. You live in Thailand. You have no idea how bad it is here in USA.
Last time I looked.
It was 81 million happy faces.
Laughing at 74 million sad frowns.There aren't 81,000,000 anymore that are happy. Only about 20,000,000 millionaires are getting the benefits from Biden policies. Biden makes sure the rich get richer and he did that in 2021. The other 60,000,000 are suffering from extreme inflation and a virus that Biden can't control. His polling shows that.
Is California still a Republican state? California has had twice as many people die in 2021 than in 2020 without the vaccine. With California voting 70 per cent democrat I would assume more democrats are dying in California than Republicans. Obviously what Biden and Newsome have done it was twice as bad as Trump. One of the headlines on yahoo this morning.
NBC News: Vaccine mistrust, variants and multiple case and death spikes all plagued headlines in 2021. Even though vaccines became widely available for people ages 5 and older, along with booster shots for the 16 and older population, California still saw an increase in COVID-19 cases and deaths this year compared to last year.
As of Thursday, California reported more than 2. 8 million cases and nearly 50,000 deaths in 2021. By Dec. 31,2020, there were more than 2. 2 million cases and 25,000 deaths reported, according to the COVID Tracking Project.
Just this week, California became the first state to surpass 5 million total COVID-19 cases in the United States.The G. O. P. 's desire to see Biden fail has become a willingness to let the country fail. Eleven months into Biden's Presidency, the bottom line is that the Republican war on Biden's legitimacy and the war on Biden's covid policies are now inextricably linked. The consequences of this are so hard to contemplate that we often do not do so: a politics so broken that it is now killing Americans on an industrial scale.
Think about this for a minute. Republicans are so intent on wanting Biden to fail that they are literally killing themselves in the effort. Talk about fools.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-s-p-500-rang-up-68-records-in-bidens-1st-year-heres-how-stock-market-returns-stack-up-for-the-46th-president-against-others-11640969701?siteid=yhoof2
I know that the rightwingnuts on this board will try to spin this every which way but correctly, but the proof is in the results. Especially the overall ones as listed below. The average market performance, since Hoover are: Republicans -1.2%, Democrats +14.2%.
But the wingers, of course, will say something else.And, bear in mind, the inarguable, verifiable record of results on all important economic metrics would favor Democrats and damn Republicans even more if the consistent pattern wasn't Dems taking over from Repubs in the midst of the latest typical Great Repub Depression / Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction vs Repubs taking over from Dems in the midst of Great Dem Recoveries / Expansions and Historic Jobs Gains.
That consistent near 100 years long pattern ensures that the incoming Dem's overall score will be unfairly and undeservedly lowered by the total downturn crap the Repub just dumped into the system on the way out while the incoming Repub's overall score will be unfairly and undeservedly elevated by the historic gains and positive economic trajectory taking place when he strolled into the White House.
The most notable instances of that pattern negatively effecting the Dem's overall score were Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden. LOL. Yes, all of the Dems of the past 50 years covered in that Bloomberg overview.
Yet their overall scores still beat the Repubs on the important metrics.
The most notable examples of Repubs coasting on the outgoing Dem's remarkably positive trajectories and then Crashing the economy soon after getting their way over the same 50 years were Reagan, Bush2 and Trump.
The only Repub during that 50 year timeline who could not coast on the outgoing Dem's positive trajectory for a while and unfairly and undeservedly apply those results to his overall score was Bush1. And that's because he didn't take over from a Dem! Consequently, without even that going for him, Bush1's overall scores are near the bottom and among the worst of all time.
The G. O. P. 's desire to see Biden fail has become a willingness to let the country fail. Eleven months into Biden's Presidency, the bottom line is that the Republican war on Biden's legitimacy and the war on Biden's covid policies are now inextricably linked. The consequences of this are so hard to contemplate that we often do not do so: a politics so broken that it is now killing Americans on an industrial scale.
Think about this for a minute. Republicans are so intent on wanting Biden to fail that they are literally killing themselves in the effort. Talk about fools.And how does your reply explain twice as many people dying in California in 2021 than in 2020? WTF? You are somehow implying politics and Republicans are to blame. Fabricated garbage that makes no sense is typical of a socialist who can't see reality.
There aren't 81,000,000 anymore that are happy. Only about 20,000,000 millionaires are getting the benefits from Biden policies. Biden makes sure the rich get richer and he did that in 2021. The other 60,000,000 are suffering from extreme inflation and a virus that Biden can't control. His polling shows that.The vast majority of America's richest people are Republicans. https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiasavchuk/2014/07/09/are-americas-richest-families-republicans-or-democrats/?sh=500c11863e83.
There are 81 MM (or more) Americans who are thankful that they don't have to wake up every day and think "What did the so-called POTUS rage-tweet about while he was taking a dump?" or "How much did the US spend yesterday for one of the so-called POTUS' golf last week (the golf that he famously said he wouldn't have time to play because he'd be working)?" or "Who'd he insult while I was asleep?
There aren't 81,000,000 anymore that are happy. Only about 20,000,000 millionaires are getting the benefits from Biden policies. Biden makes sure the rich get richer and he did that in 2021. The other 60,000,000 are suffering from extreme inflation and a virus that Biden can't control. His polling shows that.Biden's Job Approval Rating among a consensus of major polls shows his job approval is higher today at its lowest than Trump's was for each of his first two years in office and for the entirety of his so-called presidency:
RealClearPolitics Job Approval Rating, Trump:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
RealClearPolitics Job Approval Rating, Biden:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html
And while we're on the subject, Trump's final Job Approval rating with Gallup was even worse than Carter's. LOL. Both of them had a final Job Approval rating of 34% but Carter's Disapproval was 55% vs Trump's whopping 62%!
And, sure enough, Carter's average Job Approval Rating there was better than Trump's too!
45.5% for Carter vs 41.1% for Trump.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/final-presidential-job-approval-ratings
https://news.gallup.com/poll/116677/presidential-approval-ratings-gallup-historical-statistics-trends.aspx
Hmm. You Carter / Biden / Dem-bashers and Trump-defenders might want to steer clear of referring to any Job Approval Ratings or the opinion of most Americans of any of the people mentioned above if you're hoping to score points on those subjects.
ScatManDoo
01-02-22, 16:00
You can't change history. Carter was the worst president ever. It is a fact that 200,000,000 know. But now he is not. Biden has already taken the crown after only one year. Pretty impressive. This isn't mainstream media. It is common knowledge. Besides. You live in Thailand. You have no idea how bad it is here in USA.I have always known that Jimmy Carter was a good president.
And not a sourpuss that could not tolerate his successor getting sworn in.
The G. O. P. 's desire to see Biden fail has become a willingness to let the country fail. Eleven months into Biden's Presidency, the bottom line is that the Republican war on Biden's legitimacy and the war on Biden's covid policies are now inextricably linked. The consequences of this are so hard to contemplate that we often do not do so: a politics so broken that it is now killing Americans on an industrial scale.
Think about this for a minute. Republicans are so intent on wanting Biden to fail that they are literally killing themselves in the effort. Talk about fools.Yes talking about fools. Only a fool would post that more people are dying in California in 2021 than 2020 from Covid because republicans want Biden to fail.
If you voted Republican because you fear "socialism" or if you constantly call Democrats "socialists", it is time to put up or shut up.
Don't accept Social Security.
Don't accept Medicare.
Don't accept Medicaid.
If you are on these programs currently, send back your Social Security checks and cancel Medicare / Medicaid.
If you are one of the few that have gotten vaccinated, write a large check to your local government to pay for the cost of the vaccine and the cost to administer it.
If you have kids that go to public school, disenroll them immediately and start writing checks to a private school.
Avoid all public beaches, parks, recreational areas, libraries, etc since these are all "socialist" programs paid with somebody else's money.
Be sure to write a check to reimburse the government for minimum wage, maximum hour and child labor law enforcement.
Also write a check to pay for farm and energy subsidies.
Drive only on toll roads.
Do not call 911 or use other public services unless you plan to pay for them for services rendered.
If you don't do these, and other things, you are a hypocrite. Just like the former guy. Just like every Republican politician who voted against the infrastructure bill but went home and told their constituents how they "brought home the bacon".
ScatManDoo
01-02-22, 19:11
"We know now, we are learning much more now about what former president Trump was doing while the violent assault was underway. The committee has first hand testimony now that he was sitting in the dining room, next to the oval office, watching the attack on television, as the assault on the Capital occurred. We know, as you know well, that the briefing room at the White House is just a mere few steps from the oval office. The president could have at any moment walked those very few steps into the briefing room, gone on live television and told his supporters, who were assaulting the Capital to stop. He could have told them to stand down. He could have told them to go home. And he failed to do so. It is hard to imagine a more significant, a more serious dereliction of duty than that." - Liz Cheney appearing today on ABC's this Week with George Stephanopoules.
MarquisdeSade1
01-02-22, 23:20
And, bear in mind, the inarguable, verifiable record of results on all important economic metrics would favor Democrats and damn Republicans even more if the consistent pattern wasn't Dems taking over from Repubs in the midst of the latest typical Great Repub Depression / Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction vs Repubs taking over from Dems in the midst of Great Dem Recoveries / Expansions and Historic Jobs Gains.
That consistent near 100 years long pattern ensures that the incoming Dem's overall score will be unfairly and undeservedly lowered by the total downturn crap the Repub just dumped into the system on the way out while the incoming Repub's overall score will be unfairly and undeservedly elevated by the historic gains and positive economic trajectory taking place when he strolled into the White House.
The most notable instances of that pattern negatively effecting the Dem's overall score were Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden. LOL. Yes, all of the Dems of the past 50 years covered in that Bloomberg overview.
Yet their overall scores still beat the Repubs on the important metrics..https://www.newsmax.com/politics/2024-republican-rondesantis-primary/2022/01/02/id/1050716/
https://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-voter-gets-35-053556953.html?fr=yhssrp_catchall
https://www.newsmax.com/morris/democrat-midterm-congress-2024/2022/01/01/id/1050655/
I have always known that Jimmy Carter was a good president.
And not a sourpuss that could not tolerate his successor getting sworn in.You are one of the five people living in USA that thought Carter was a good president.
If you voted Republican because you fear "socialism" or if you constantly call Democrats "socialists", it is time to put up or shut up.
Don't accept Social Security.
Don't accept Medicare.
Don't accept Medicaid.
If you are on these programs currently, send back your Social Security checks and cancel Medicare / Medicaid.
If you are one of the few that have gotten vaccinated, write a large check to your local government to pay for the cost of the vaccine and the cost to administer it.Obviously you don't understand the difference from programs that I paid into all my life and socialism / communism. I worked for 45 years and more than paid for my social security and Medicare unlike you who never did. I paid my taxes, paid school taxes and paid road taxes unlike you. Socialists don't want to work and pay taxes. I invested into our community unlike you. You don't even understand that the infrastructure bill was a left wing wish list. Socialism / Communism is big government controlling all industry and eliminating capitalism. I built companies. Hired hundreds of employees. Paid millions in taxes unlike you who has been a drain on society. I am different than you. I worked hard, took risks and succeeded. You did not. Biden is going to save you. The free stuff is done.
If you voted Republican because you fear "socialism" or if you constantly call Democrats "socialists", it is time to put up or shut up.
Don't accept Social Security.
Don't accept Medicare.
Don't accept Medicaid.
If you are on these programs currently, send back your Social Security checks and cancel Medicare / Medicaid.
If you are one of the few that have gotten vaccinated, write a large check to your local government to pay for the cost of the vaccine and the cost to administer it.
If you have kids that go to public school, disenroll them immediately and start writing checks to a private school..You must be kidding. Did you ever work? Did you ever pay your portion of social security? Did you ever own a house and pay residential taxes? Did you ever make enough money to pay income taxes. If you had you would be eligible for all the benefits above. Obviously you never did pay your share of taxes. Obviously with your post you are uneducated. Just because you were not successful that does not entitle you to more free stuff.
ScatManDoo
01-03-22, 04:06
"I think it's also important for the American people to understand how dangerous Donald Trump was. We know as he was sitting there in the dining room next to the Oval Office, members of his staff were pleading with him to go on television, to tell people to stop. We know Leader McCarthy was pleading with him to do that.
We know members of his family, we know his daughter. We have firsthand testimony that his daughter Ivanka went in at least twice to ask him to please stop this violence.
Any man who would not do so, any man who would provoke a violent assault on the Capitol to stop the counting of electoral votes, any man who would watch television as police officers were being beaten, as his supporters were invading the Capitol of the United States, is clearly unfit for future office, clearly can never be anywhere near the Oval Office ever again. " - Liz Cheney on today's broadcast of ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos.
"We know now, we are learning much more now about what former president Trump was doing while the violent assault was underway. The committee has first hand testimony now that he was sitting in the dining room, next to the oval office, watching the attack on television, as the assault on the Capital occurred. We know, as you know well, that the briefing room at the White House is just a mere few steps from the oval office. The president could have at any moment walked those very few steps into the briefing room, gone on live television and told his supporters, who were assaulting the Capital to stop. He could have told them to stand down. He could have told them to go home. And he failed to do so. It is hard to imagine a more significant, a more serious dereliction of duty than that." - Liz Cheney appearing today on ABC's this Week with George Stephanopoules.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-panel-has-firsthand-testimony-ivanka-asked-trump-intervene-n1286831
Yes, we can now add Ivanka to the long list of people related to and closely working with so-called potus Donald J. Trump who knew very well the America-hating, anti-America, cop-killing rioters invading and desecrating the USA Capitol in order to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and assassinate elected American representatives were Trump's people, Trumpsters, not "BLM" demonstrators, not "antifa", no "false-flag" activists, nobody other that his obedient cult followers incited to violent riot by him and ready to obey his every command.
And, same as the others, Ivanka knew for a fact her dad was too stupid, too incompetent and too unfit to serve to know what to do to stop the violent attack on the Constitution that he established and incited or that he was too hateful of America to bother.
Disgraceful.
You must be kidding. Did you ever work? Did you ever pay your portion of social security? Did you ever own a house and pay residential taxes? Did you ever make enough money to pay income taxes. If you had you would be eligible for all the benefits above. Obviously you never did pay your share of taxes. Obviously with your post you are uneducated. Just because you were not successful that does not entitle you to more free stuff.You just described how all the programs in America that you rail against as "Socialist!" are funded.
The New Deal programs, the Great Society programs, the Omnibus Budget Reconcilliation Act of 1993, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, the Affordable Care Act and, yes Biden's remarkably successful American Rescue Act and his historic bi-partisan Infrastructure legislation are all paid for by collected taxes.
Obviously you don't understand the difference from programs that I paid into all my life and socialism / communism. I worked for 45 years and more than paid for my social security and Medicare unlike you who never did. I paid my taxes, paid school taxes and paid road taxes unlike you. Socialists don't want to work and pay taxes. I invested into our community unlike you. You don't even understand that the infrastructure bill was a left wing wish list. Socialism / Communism is big government controlling all industry and eliminating capitalism. I built companies. Hired hundreds of employees. Paid millions in taxes unlike you who has been a drain on society. I am different than you. I worked hard, took risks and succeeded. You did not. Biden is going to save you. The free stuff is done.Social Security and all of the rest of the things in my original post are "socialist". In other words, someone pays money (taxes) and doesn't receive the same amount back. You can howl at the moon all you want but facts are facts.
It makes no difference whatsoever if you paid money into Social Security. The entire program is "socialist". But you knew that because you have ranted about Social Security being "socialist" in the past (I have the quotes).
You must be kidding. Did you ever work? Did you ever pay your portion of social security? Did you ever own a house and pay residential taxes? Did you ever make enough money to pay income taxes. If you had you would be eligible for all the benefits above. Obviously you never did pay your share of taxes. Obviously with your post you are uneducated. Just because you were not successful that does not entitle you to more free stuff.Wingers are all the same. They complain and complain about all things socialist but when the going gets tough, they fold like a cheap suit.
You have complained time and time again about Social Security being socialist. I have your quotes so I know. But, like a good little winger, you howl at the moon about "socialism", yet line up at the trough for free stuff. Like a good little winger, you have shown everybody that you don't have any principles. Just like the former guy and the rest of the cultists.
ScatManDoo
01-03-22, 06:31
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-panel-has-firsthand-testimony-ivanka-asked-trump-intervene-n1286831
Yes, we can now add Ivanka to the long list of people related to and closely working with so-called potus Donald J. Trump who knew very well the America-hating, anti-America, cop-killing rioters invading and desecrating the USA Capitol in order to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and assassinate elected American representatives were Trump's people, Trumpsters, not "BLM" demonstrators, not "antifa", no "false-flag" activists, nobody other that his obedient cult followers incited to violent riot by him and ready to obey his every command.
And, same as the others, Ivanka knew for a fact her dad was too stupid, too incompetent and too unfit to serve to know what to do to stop the violent attack on the Constitution that he established and incited or that he was too hateful of America to bother.
Disgraceful.TrumpShit was fully aware that the deplorables he sent to the capital were beating the police with confederate and Trump 2020 flags and breaking windows chanting death to Pence.
For over three hours scores of different people pleaded for him to call off his dogs.
And for more than three hours TrumpShit refused.
Disgraceful.
Wingers are all the same. They complain and complain about all things socialist but when the going gets tough, they fold like a cheap suit.
You have complained time and time again about Social Security being socialist. I have your quotes so I know. But, like a good little winger, you howl at the moon about "socialism", yet line up at the trough for free stuff. Like a good little winger, you have shown everybody that you don't have any principles. Just like the former guy and the rest of the cultists.I have never complained about social security in any one of my posts.
"I think it's also important for the American people to understand how dangerous Donald Trump was. We know as he was sitting there in the dining room next to the Oval Office, members of his staff were pleading with him to go on television, to tell people to stop. We know Leader McCarthy was pleading with him to do that.
We know members of his family, we know his daughter. We have firsthand testimony that his daughter Ivanka went in at least twice to ask him to please stop this violence.
Any man who would not do so, any man who would provoke a violent assault on the Capitol to stop the counting of electoral votes, any man who would watch television as police officers were being beaten, as his supporters were invading the Capitol of the United States, is clearly unfit for future office, clearly can never be anywhere near the Oval Office ever again. " - Liz Cheney on today's broadcast of ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos.It makes sense that you are still talking about the past because of the disaster Biden policies provided this year. But if you were really worried about USA you would be trying to focus on Biden mistakes not a one day riot. Antifa and Black Lives Matter are still doing the same to this day. It is amazing you care so much about January 6 when the country has so much real crime. More people are murdered every day and more people are assaulted every day in just one of your democratic cities Chicago. Murders and assaults and robbery are up in every major democratic city and no one here even mentions it. You don't care about January 6 personally but you are still fixated on Trump because of his success and you want somehow to try to stain it. January 6 was not acceptable in any means but it is over. History. Move on.
"I think it's also important for the American people to understand how dangerous Donald Trump was. We know as he was sitting there in the dining room next to the Oval Office, members of his staff were pleading with him to go on television, to tell people to stop. We know Leader McCarthy was pleading with him to do that.
We know members of his family, we know his daughter. We have firsthand testimony that his daughter Ivanka went in at least twice to ask him to please stop this violence..Polling showed Trump as the favorite to win the the primary in 2024 and after 4 years of Biden it will be a landslide if he runs. Anybody could run against Biden right now and win. DNC keeps telling their candidates to stop throwing Trump name out there because it is hurting the candidates chances. So guys keep talking about our past great president. Every time someone mentions Trump people are reminded how much better off they were a year ago. 71 per cent were better off last year than 2021.
The democrat keep talking about stopping Trump violence which nobody can ever see while their states are crime riddled with murders, assaults, rapes and looting every day that affects more people than January 6. More people are killed or injured every minute of every day in democrat states than January 6 protest. Hypocrisy at its best.
Polling showed Trump as the favorite to win the the primary in 2024 and after 4 years of Biden it will be a landslide if he runs. Anybody could run against Biden right now and win. DNC keeps telling their candidates to stop throwing Trump name out there because it is hurting the candidates chances. So guys keep talking about our past great president. Every time someone mentions Trump people are reminded how much better off they were a year ago. 71 per cent were better off last year than 2021.
The democrat keep talking about stopping Trump violence which nobody can ever see while their states are crime riddled with murders, assaults, rapes and looting every day that affects more people than January 6. More people are killed or injured every minute of every day in democrat states than January 6 protest. Hypocrisy at its best.The fact that you and many so-called conservatives don't care about January 6th is what is really concerning. When was finding out who organized and funded the January 6th assault on our free elections a petty partisan exercise to be disparaged by virtually every elected Congressional Republican?
https://news.yahoo.com/broderick-no-mistake-america-broken-100233104.html
Polling showed Trump as the favorite to win the the primary in 2024 and after 4 years of Biden it will be a landslide if he runs. Anybody could run against Biden right now and win. DNC keeps telling their candidates to stop throwing Trump name out there because it is hurting the candidates chances. So guys keep talking about our past great president. Every time someone mentions Trump people are reminded how much better off they were a year ago. 71 per cent were better off last year than 2021.
The democrat keep talking about stopping Trump violence which nobody can ever see while their states are crime riddled with murders, assaults, rapes and looting every day that affects more people than January 6. More people are killed or injured every minute of every day in democrat states than January 6 protest. Hypocrisy at its best.Aren't you the same cultist who claimed 15 months ago that polls were lying and not to be believed.
Do you support polls only when they say what you want them to say? Oh, wait, you are a Republican. Of course you do.
Polling showed Trump as the favorite to win the the primary in 2024 and after 4 years of Biden it will be a landslide if he runs. Anybody could run against Biden right now and win. DNC keeps telling their candidates to stop throwing Trump name out there because it is hurting the candidates chances. So guys keep talking about our past great president. Every time someone mentions Trump people are reminded how much better off they were a year ago. 71 per cent were better off last year than 2021.
The democrat keep talking about stopping Trump violence which nobody can ever see while their states are crime riddled with murders, assaults, rapes and looting every day that affects more people than January 6. More people are killed or injured every minute of every day in democrat states than January 6 protest. Hypocrisy at its best.I forget. When did Trump's policies, legislation or economic stewardship create 6+ million USA jobs in 11 months, raise wages more than they have risen in decades, reduce child poverty in America by about 50%, increase real year over year GDP growth by 5% successfully establish and organize a free and easily available vaccination program that saved millions of American lives from Trump's Pandemic virus, pass historic bipartisan Infrastructure legislation, produce and preside over "the best holiday season ever", etc, etc, etc?
ScatManDoo
01-04-22, 04:30
The democrat keep talking about stopping Trump violence which nobody can ever see while their states are crime riddled with murders, assaults, rapes and looting every day that affects more people than January 6. More people are killed or injured every minute of every day in democrat states than January 6 protest. Hypocrisy at its best.Supporting the deadly riot on our capital makes you sound terribly anti-American, Canada.
I forget. When did Trump's policies, legislation or economic stewardship create 6+ million USA jobs in 11 months, raise wages more than they have risen in decades, reduce child poverty in America by about 50%, increase real year over year GDP growth by 5% successfully establish and organize a free and easily available vaccination program that saved millions of American lives from Trump's Pandemic virus, pass historic bipartisan Infrastructure legislation, produce and preside over "the best holiday season ever", etc, etc, etc?2017-2018. After the Obama fiasco.
Aren't you the same cultist who claimed 15 months ago that polls were lying and not to be believed.
Do you support polls only when they say what you want them to say? Oh, wait, you are a Republican. Of course you do.No I said polls were wrong in 2016 With Hillary but polls by several polling stations are manipulated. Polls are a guideline not to be taken seriously but when whole stadiums are chanting Let's Go Brandon you pretty much know the numbers. Probably only 20 per cent of democrats will actually admit Biden is failing the country but 80 per cent of them are paying the price for voting for him. You included.
The fact that you and many so-called conservatives don't care about January 6th is what is really concerning. When was finding out who organized and funded the January 6th assault on our free elections a petty partisan exercise to be disparaged by virtually every elected Congressional Republican?
https://news.yahoo.com/broderick-no-mistake-america-broken-100233104.htmlBasically no one cares about January 6. So a bunch of radical right winger protesters stormed the whitehouse full of politicians. Who cares. It lasted one afternoon and nothing after that. Radical left wing protesters looted and burned cities. They are still doing it to this day. I guarantee more people in California are concerned more with crime out of control daily and the safety of their families than they worry for politicians scared for one day. Get a life. Look at the real world. Why do you guys have so much hatred? Life is to short. Biden is ruining lives every day and O am not going to dwell on it. I am going to take advantage of it because he catering to the rich. Maybe you should have done more with your life in the past rather than dwell on Trump. Life is good. His actions have consequences. We have a terrible president but he will be a lame duck president by November. He is doing it to himself.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-s-p-500-rang-up-68-records-in-bidens-1st-year-heres-how-stock-market-returns-stack-up-for-the-46th-president-against-others-11640969701?siteid=yhoof2
I know that the rightwingnuts on this board will try to spin this every which way but correctly, but the proof is in the results. Especially the overall ones as listed below. The average market performance, since Hoover are: Republicans -1.2%, Democrats +14.2%.
But the wingers, of course, will say something else.Probably
https://www.slickcharts.com/sp500/returns
Biden's first year Stock Market return as measured by the industry standard S&P 500 Index was 28.7% (the report on total return including dividends will come later).
That surpasses Trump's first year return of 21.8%.
It surpasses even more Trump's average annual return of 16.8%.
Anybody think Trump's average annual returns were "unfairly" lowered because his disastrous economic decision to lay the groundwork for a deadly viral spread to emerge unmonitored, unprevented and improperly responded to in 2018, lie about its risks, mock the known mitigation measures and discourage any effort to invent or take a vaccine for it from the beginning and thereby create his worldwide economy and market destroying Trump's Pandemic most notably through his final year in office screwed up an otherwise magnificent Stock Market return record, the measure of "economic success" Trump revered most?
Well, you'd be wrong about that.
Trump's 3 year average annual return pre-2020 was even lower than his 4 year average at 16.3%.
No I said polls were wrong in 2016 With Hillary but polls by several polling stations are manipulated. Polls are a guideline not to be taken seriously but when whole stadiums are chanting Let's Go Brandon you pretty much know the numbers. Probably only 20 per cent of democrats will actually admit Biden is failing the country but 80 per cent of them are paying the price for voting for him. You included.You and every other MAGA supporter claimed that the pre-election polls were wrong in 2020. Those polls claimed that Biden was ahead by 7% or so. You and every other MAGA supporter claimed that the polls were wrong and that the former guy would win.
The polls were wrong in the percentage but not in the fact that Biden won.
Basically no one cares about January 6. So a bunch of radical right winger protesters stormed the whitehouse full of politicians. Who cares. It lasted one afternoon and nothing after that. Radical left wing protesters looted and burned cities. They are still doing it to this day. I guarantee more people in California are concerned more with crime out of control daily and the safety of their families than they worry for politicians scared for one day. Get a life. Look at the real world. Why do you guys have so much hatred? Life is to short. Biden is ruining lives every day and O am not going to dwell on it. I am going to take advantage of it because he catering to the rich. Maybe you should have done more with your life in the past rather than dwell on Trump. Life is good. His actions have consequences. We have a terrible president but he will be a lame duck president by November. He is doing it to himself.The only people who don't care about January 6th are the 74+ million fools who voted for the former guy. People like you, Elvis, Cali and a few others. Your comment of "politicians scared for one day" says it all. Everybody else with a brain, both here in the US and elsewhere in the world, is very concerned with what happened on January 6th.
The "real world" as you term it knows that the former guy and his merry band of idiots orchestrated a coup. Thankfully the coup failed. But I have no doubt that Republicans will try it again in 2024. If the former guy runs he could lose the popular vote by 50,000,000 and lose the EC by 538-0 and Republicans will swing into gear and crown him king. I know that that's what you and the rest of the cultists want.
Anybody who supports a coup is the real hater here.
2017-2018. After the Obama fiasco.Links, please.
You and every other MAGA supporter claimed that the pre-election polls were wrong in 2020. Those polls claimed that Biden was ahead by 7% or so. You and every other MAGA supporter claimed that the polls were wrong and that the former guy would win.
The polls were wrong in the percentage but not in the fact that Biden won.Yes, using the more pertinent "consensus of polls" rather than cherry-picking one or two individual polls to assess the accuracy of "the polls", they got it as remarkably accurate to within a normal +/-Margin of Error in 2016 and 2020 as they have gotten it for many decades:
General Election 2016 RealClearPolitics Average: Clinton +3.2%.
Final Results: Clinton +2.1%
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
General Election 2020 RealClearPolitics Average: Biden +7.2%
Final Results: Biden +4.5%
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html
When you look at the consensus of polls for the Electoral Map Results in 2020, they were even more amazingly accurate. Simply switch the very close states of Florida and Georgia and they got it 100% right:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/2020_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html
The people who still cling to this idea that "the polls" were wrong in 2020 are apparently the suckers that Team Trump and the Repubs were targeting to fall for that crap during the brief window between election night and several days later when all the ballots were counted including the record number and percentage of mail-in ballots submitted in the midst of Trump's Pandemic.
LOL. That was the whole purpose in Repubs preventing all those mail-in ballots from being counted prior to election night and in some cases even on election night in all those states with Repub legislatures; to allow for a few days' delay in producing the final true results wherein Trump could work his con magic to sucker his cult followers and rubes into accepting his Big Lie about the election being stolen from him.
And that was the basis for his and Team Trump's plans to overthrow American democracy legally or illegally, by hook or by crook over the next couple of months and, failing that, which they did, to incite a violent Insurrection to prevent the peaceful transfer of power no later than the day those Electoral Votes would be formally recorded on January 6, 2021. Which is exactly why January 6 was definitely not a matter of just a few radical nuts getting out of control. Nope. They were Trumpsters, Repub cult followers, being prepared, primed and controlled by Trump to do exactly what they did on his behalf going back to at least November 3 and technically even earlier than that.
MarquisdeSade1
01-04-22, 07:14
Basically no one cares about January 6. So a bunch of radical right winger protesters stormed the whitehouse full of politicians. Who cares. It lasted one afternoon and nothing after that. Radical left wing protesters looted and burned cities. They are still doing it to this day. I guarantee more people in California are concerned more with crime out of control daily and the safety of their families than they worry for politicians scared for one day. Get a life. Look at the real world. Why do you guys have so much hatred? Life is to short. Biden is ruining lives every day and O am not going to dwell on it. I am going to take advantage of it because he catering to the rich. Maybe you should have done more with your life in the past rather than dwell on Trump. Life is good. His actions have consequences. We have a terrible president but he will be a lame duck president by November. He is doing it to himself.Count all the guns those protesters own? How many of those guns were brought to the rally? How many shot anyone? If you want to have an insurrection you do more than break windows and take selfies.
The only person murdered was an unarmed veteran /100 lb white woman, by a black democrat!!
President Donald J Trump G. O. A. T.
The sequel 2024.
And if the oligarchs rig it again, let there be all out civil war!!
Polling showed Trump as the favorite to win the the primary in 2024 and after 4 years of Biden it will be a landslide if he runs. Anybody could run against Biden right now and win. DNC keeps telling their candidates to stop throwing Trump name out there because it is hurting the candidates chances. So guys keep talking about our past great president. Every time someone mentions Trump people are reminded how much better off they were a year ago. 71 per cent were better off last year than 2021.
The democrat keep talking about stopping Trump violence which nobody can ever see while their states are crime riddled with murders, assaults, rapes and looting every day that affects more people than January 6. More people are killed or injured every minute of every day in democrat states than January 6 protest. Hypocrisy at its best.Every time a Dem / Biden-basher ignores the overwhelming record of positive results for America produced by Dems and now by Biden in particular along with the disastrous results of Repubs and most especially those of Trump, you are proving yourself to be the obedient servant of Mainstream Media in their mission to help Repubs win elections in order to produce their typically horrible results and to therefore deliver the ear and eye-attracting Mainstream Media ratings for horrible news they can always count on Repubs to deliver:
CBS Chief: Trumps Success Is Damn Good For the Network
https://fortune.com/2016/03/01/les-moonves-cbs-trump/
...Leslie Moonves, the chairman of CBS (CBS), admitted as much on Monday. It may not be good for America, but its damn good for CBS, Moonves said at a Morgan Stanley conference in San Francisco, according to The Hollywood Reporter.Proud?
ScatManDoo
01-04-22, 14:36
Count all the guns those protesters own? How many of those guns were brought to the rally? How many shot anyone? If you want to have an insurrection you do more than break windows and take selfies.
The only person murdered was an unarmed veteran /100 lb white woman, by a black democrat!!
President Donald J Trump G. O. A. T.
The sequel 2024.
And if the oligarchs rig it again, let there be all out civil war!!Hey MarquisdeSade1,
Just to measure you're grip on reality.
Do you believe that Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election?
The only people who don't care about January 6th are the 74+ million fools who voted for the former guy. People like you, Elvis, Cali and a few others. Your comment of "politicians scared for one day" says it all. Everybody else with a brain, both here in the US and elsewhere in the world, is very concerned with what happened on January 6th.
The "real world" as you term it knows that the former guy and his merry band of idiots orchestrated a coup. Thankfully the coup failed. But I have no doubt that Republicans will try it again in 2024. If the former guy runs he could lose the popular vote by 50,000,000 and lose the EC by 538-0 and Republicans will swing into gear and crown him king. I know that that's what you and the rest of the cultists want.
Anybody who supports a coup is the real hater here.The real world doesn't care about Trump anymore. The real world sees the real problems in the USA today. The real world see inflation. The real work see the dangerous crimes in their cities. The real world see the drugs and criminals illegally coming through insecure borders. The real world sees the future. The real world will change the future by voting for change in 2022 and making Biden a lame duck president so that he can't totally destroy America. The fools and pessimist's will continue to talk about Trump. The real world will succeed and the fools and pessimists will still be living the past.
Probably
https://www.slickcharts.com/sp500/returns
Biden's first year Stock Market return as measured by the industry standard S&P 500 Index was 28.7% (the report on total return including dividends will come later).
That surpasses Trump's first year return of 21.8%.
It surpasses even more Trump's average annual return of 16.8%.
Anybody think Trump's average annual returns were "unfairly" lowered because his disastrous economic decision to lay the groundwork for a deadly viral spread to emerge unmonitored, unprevented and improperly responded to in 2018, lie about its risks, mock the known mitigation measures and discourage any effort to invent or take a vaccine for it from the beginning and thereby create his worldwide economy and market destroying Trump's Pandemic most notably through his final year in office screwed up an otherwise magnificent Stock Market return record, the measure of "economic success" Trump revered most?
Well, you'd be wrong about that.
Trump's 3 year average annual return pre-2020 was even lower than his 4 year average at 16.3%.Like I said previously. The rich get richer. The stock market helped the rich far more than the average family. Did not help the poor at all. Yes market is up and the biggest benefactor was Warren Buffett: Biden biggest donor. I like many other wealthy people benefited greatly with Berkshire stock. 1 share of Berkshire A went up $120,000. But I bet most people don't own this stock. But I do and I know Pelosi and Biden own this stock. I bet you don't own this stock. Biden trying to kill oil industry backfired like everyone knew it would and helped double oil prices. I along with other people who had smart financial advisors and money bought oil stocks that went up 30-85 per cent. Stock market was up 17 per cent but leader was oil stocks. The fools scoffed at the oil industry and the smart made millions on the oil industry last year.
But don't brag up Biden too much on the stock market because if he ever does get one of his bad policies in we are going to see a crash. Fortunately he has been to incompetent to implement much.
Count all the guns those protesters own? How many of those guns were brought to the rally? How many shot anyone? If you want to have an insurrection you do more than break windows and take selfies.
The only person murdered was an unarmed veteran /100 lb white woman, by a black democrat!!
President Donald J Trump G. O. A. T.
The sequel 2024.
And if the oligarchs rig it again, let there be all out civil war!!Trump and his iInsurrection Mob were responsible for 5 deaths that day and more related deaths soon after. The violent Q-anon nut you mentioned was not "murdered. " She was shot by an American hero after illegally breaking into the area near members of Congress she and the Trump Insurrection Mob behind her were intent upon assassinating. And then only after multiple warnings to withdraw.
Oh, BTW, court documents, video evidence and news coverage show that some of Trump's rioters were armed with guns, many later seized by the police.
This was a mob of idiot Trumpsters intent upon stopping an Electoral College count submission and, if necessary, killing a few cops and elected officials along the way. That is still an Insurrection. They were not prepared and organized enough to represent an anti-America military force capable of running the American government for so much as a single hour.
This time.
Count all the guns those protesters own? How many of those guns were brought to the rally? How many shot anyone? If you want to have an insurrection you do more than break windows and take selfies.
The only person murdered was an unarmed veteran /100 lb white woman, by a black democrat!!
President Donald J Trump G. O. A. T.
The sequel 2024.
And if the oligarchs rig it again, let there be all out civil war!!Thank you for adding to the list of people who support the January 6th coup attempt.
The rioters did do more than break windows and take selfies. They smeared c all over the walls of the Capitol. They stole both personal and Government property. They threatened to hang the Vice President of the US. They illegally attempted to stop the certification of the Electoral College votes. Make no mistake, this was an attempted coup.
The only person killed inside the Capitol that day would not have been killed if she had stayed home. Instead, she forcibly and illegally tried to enter the barricaded Speaker's lobby. I thought Republicans believed that "actions have consequences". Or does that only apply to black people, LGBTQ persons, etc?
G. O. A. T? ROFL. Undoubtedly, though, the G. G. O. A. T. Greatest Grifter Of All Time.
Oligarchs stole the election? How? By having Chinese thermostats change votes? Every one of Donnie's 60+ lawsuits failed. Why? Lack of evidence.
Think about this for a minute. Here's what the cult believes! Voters can't be trusted. The voting process can't be trusted. Local election officials can't be trusted. County election officials can't be trusted. State election officials can't be trusted. Local judges can't be trusted. State judges can't be trusted. State Supreme Courts can't be trusted. Federal Circuit Court judges can't be trusted. Federal Appellate Court judges can't be trusted. The Supreme Court can't be trusted. The only person who can be trusted is Donald Trump. If you need more than the time it took to read the above to realize how appallingly stupid it sounds, you are part of the problem.
Like I said earlier, if Donnie runs again, he could lose the EC by 538-0 and you cultists will still crown him king.
Probably
https://www.slickcharts.com/sp500/returns
Biden's first year Stock Market return as measured by the industry standard S&P 500 Index was 28.7% (the report on total return including dividends will come later).
That surpasses Trump's first year return of 21.8%.
It surpasses even more Trump's average annual return of 16.8%.
Anybody think Trump's average annual returns were "unfairly" lowered because his disastrous economic decision to lay the groundwork for a deadly viral spread to emerge unmonitored, unprevented and improperly responded to in 2018, lie about its risks, mock the known mitigation measures and discourage any effort to invent or take a vaccine for it from the beginning and thereby create his worldwide economy and market destroying Trump's Pandemic most notably through his final year in office screwed up an otherwise magnificent Stock Market return record, the measure of "economic success" Trump revered most?
Well, you'd be wrong about that.
Trump's 3 year average annual return pre-2020 was even lower than his 4 year average at 16.3%.I am a financial advisor for a major firm in San Diego. Our firm does not give any Credit to the current administration for increased market prices. In fact it rarely gives credit for good or bad in the market to any administration. The market increased dramatically in 2017, 2018 and 2029 when Trump reversed a lot of Obama regulations especially for energy industry and financial industry. By end of 2019 China virus hit the world and business stopped in USA and the world. After a bleak 2020 and 3 vaccines hitting consumers in late 2020 it was expected that the market would stabilize and return to the gains made from 2017-2019 and it did. Since the new virus is less deadly than the last the market is stable. No credit is given to current administration. With the BBB virtually non existent now and Biden facing an election year our firm is expecting stable market. Most of my clients are 401 k and retirement funds so last 5 years have been extremely good. Once Biden tried destroying the oil industry we saw an increased opportunity for our clients in oil stocks once the administration drove down production and drove up oil and gas prices. Our average return on the energy side for oil was 68 per cent. For the wealthy and middle class who funded their 401 K to the max 2021 was a good year. It is an election year and the democrats are going to try to jam some socialist program or green program through but we do not expect that to happen. Expect a slight correction in March when feds raise interest rates for first time in years. But with a correction comes opportunities.
Our firm is one of the 3 biggest in USA and we get research weekly. They are not always right and some advisors don't do the research but we have an incredible record.
ScatManDoo
01-04-22, 22:32
Every time a Dem / Biden-basher ignores the overwhelming record of positive results for America produced by Dems and now by Biden in particular along with the disastrous results of Repubs and most especially those of Trump, you are proving yourself to be the obedient servant of Mainstream MediaSince many of them are middle class. No better off than a large number of democrats.
They look like suckers to me.
SouthEaster
01-04-22, 22:57
"The fact that you and many so-called conservatives don't care about January 6th is what is really concerning. When was finding out who organized and funded the January 6th assault on our free elections a petty partisan exercise to be disparaged by virtually every elected Congressional Republican?" Come on. "Everyone knows" that it was a false flag operation organized by the FBI. Tucker said so, so it must be true!
MarquisdeSade1
01-05-22, 02:48
Thank you for adding to the list of people who support the January 6th coup attempt.
The rioters did do more than break windows and take selfies. They smeared c all over the walls of the Capitol. They stole both personal and Government property. They threatened to hang the Vice President of the US. They illegally attempted to stop the certification of the Electoral College votes. Make no mistake, this was an attempted coup.
The only person killed inside the Capitol that day would not have been killed if she had stayed home. Instead, she forcibly and illegally tried to enter the barricaded Speaker's lobby. I thought Republicans believed that "actions have consequences". Or does that only apply to black people, LGBTQ persons, etc?
G. O. A. T? ROFL. Undoubtedly, though, the G. G. O. A. T. Greatest Grifter Of All Time.
Oligarchs stole the election? How? By having Chinese thermostats change votes? Every one of Donnie's 60+ lawsuits failed. Why? Lack of evidence.I support full scale civil war.
Winner takes all!
https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/04/poll-most-republicans-distrust-the-fbi/
https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/how-the-2020-election-was-rigged/
ScatManDoo
01-05-22, 03:01
I am a financial advisor for a major firm in San Diego. Our firm does not give any Credit to the current administration for increased market prices. In fact it rarely gives credit for good or bad in the market to any administration. The market increased dramatically in 2017, 2018 and 2029 Both Trump and Biden will probably be dead by 2029.
That's probably the year Kamala gets inaugurated.
For her first or second term.
I am a financial advisor for a major firm in San Diego. Our firm does not give any Credit to the current administration for increased market prices. In fact it rarely gives credit for good or bad in the market to any administration. The market increased dramatically in 2017, 2018 and 2029 when Trump reversed a lot of Obama regulations especially for energy industry and financial industry...Good lord, man, then your client is in big trouble, Mr. Advisor.
The broad USA Stock Market as quite accurately represented by the S&P 500 Index was down -4. 38% in 2018. There was a broadly based Bear Market Decline (20%) in December of that year. Did you not notice it? Or remember it?
They are in particular big trouble if you were advising them to invest just as large and enthusiastically during any previous Repub administration as the Dem administrations, which means they have not dodged but ridden every Great Repub Bear Market Crash to the very dead bottom and gained almost nothing but anxiety by the time the next Dem administration came in to recover it.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2646844]I am a financial advisor for a major firm in San Diego. Our firm does not give any Credit to the current administration for increased market prices. In fact it rarely gives credit for good or bad in the market to any administration. The market increased dramatically in 2017, 2018 and 2029 when Trump reversed a lot of Obama regulations especially for energy industry and financial industry. By end of 2019 China virus hit the world and business stopped in USA and the world. After a bleak 2020 and 3 vaccines hitting consumers in late 2020 it was expected that the market would stabilize and return to the gains made from 2017-2019 and it did. Since the new virus is less deadly than the last the market is stable. No credit is given to current administration. With the BBB virtually non existent now and Biden facing an election year our firm is expecting stable market. Most of my clients are 401 k and retirement funds so last 5 years have been extremely good. Once Biden tried destroying the oil industry we saw an increased opportunity for our clients in oil stocks once the administration drove down production and drove up oil and gas prices. Our average return on the energy side for oil was 68 per cent. For the wealthy and middle class who funded their 401 K to the max 2021 was a good year. It is an election year and the democrats are going to try to jam some socialist program or green program through but we do not expect that to happen. Expect a slight correction in March when feds raise interest rates for first time in years. /QUOTE]Really, this post is such a cornucopia of delights, I can't resist another reply. LOL.
Aside from his historic 2018 CDC defunding disaster and his incomparable contributions to creating Trump's Pandemic in the first place, you do remember that Trump's lamebrained policies slammed the USA Manufacturing and Agro sector, right? Gee, we're all happy that he further subsidized the oil and energy sectors. Those poor dears need all the additional subsidies and corporate welfare they can get.
Meanwhile, thanks to his zero gain trade war against China, Trump had to send more Socialist welfare checks to USA Farmers just to keep them afloat:
Administration announces $12 billion in aid to farmers hurt by Trump's trade war.
The president tweeted on Tuesday that "Tariffs are the greatest!" Farmers don't think so.
July 6, 2018.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/administration-offer-billions-aid-farmers-hurt-trump-s-trade-war-n894066
And he drove the USA Manufacturing sector directly into Recession:
U.S. Manufacturing 'in a recession', Fed's data show
July 16,2019.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-industrial-production-slumps-in-second-quarter-2019-07-16
Yep, all pre Trump's Pandemic, Mr. Financial Advisor.
Good lord, man, then your client is in big trouble, Mr. Advisor.
The broad USA Stock Market as quite accurately represented by the S&P 500 Index was down -4. 38% in 2018. There was a broadly based Bear Market Decline (20%) in December of that year. Did you not notice it? Or remember it?
They are in particular big trouble if you were advising them to invest just as large and enthusiastically during any previous Repub administration as the Dem administrations, which means they have not dodged but ridden every Great Repub Bear Market Crash to the very dead bottom and gained almost nothing but anxiety by the time the next Dem administration came in to recover it.Obviously you are uneducated in the financial world and are not involved in it. Dow was just over 18,000 January 2017 and it is now 36000. The market was consistent in 2018 between 23,000 to 27,000 with solid growth. That is about 100 per cent increase. My clients have done really well. They are happy and I get referrals daily. My clients invest for long term wealth. The building of wealth is better with fluctuations in the market. Every correction is an opportunity to buy. Market crashing from Covid actually helped their portfolios because they were able to buy depressed stocks.
Obviously you have no clue on investing and have not capitalized on the market to date. If you are making investments in the market when republicans are in power then you are not participating in the market. If you were one of the stupid ones and I had a few clients like that who sold all their portfolio when Trump became president you lost big time. I had 2 clients who sold everything when Trump became president. $1,500,000 and $2,400,000 portfolios that now would be $3,000,000 and $5,000,000 portfolios.
I am a financial advisor for a major firm in San Diego. Our firm does not give any Credit to the current administration for increased market prices. In fact it rarely gives credit for good or bad in the market to any administration. The market increased dramatically in 2017, 2018 and 2029 when Trump reversed a lot of Obama regulations especially for energy industry and financial industry. By end of 2019 China virus hit the world and business stopped in USA and the world. After a bleak 2020 and 3 vaccines hitting consumers in late 2020 it was expected that the market would stabilize and return to the gains made from 2017-2019 and it did. Since the new virus is less deadly than the last the market is stable. No credit is given to current administration. With the BBB virtually non existent now and Biden facing an election year our firm is expecting stable market. Most of my clients are 401 k and retirement funds so last 5 years have been extremely good. Once Biden tried destroying the oil industry we saw an increased opportunity for our clients in oil stocks once the administration drove down production and drove up oil and gas prices. Our average return on the energy side for oil was 68 per cent. For the wealthy and middle class who funded their 401 K to the max 2021 was a good year. It is an election year and the democrats are going to try to jam some socialist program or green program through but we do not expect that to happen. Expect a slight correction in March when feds raise interest rates for first time in years. But with a correction comes opportunities.
Our firm is one of the 3 biggest in USA and we get research weekly. They are not always right and some advisors don't do the research but we have an incredible record.Great report. Pretty much sums up what my financial advisors have told me the last year. I use 2 of the 3 biggest firms in USA with 2/3 in one and 1/3 in the other. Both of them would agree with you totally. I use 2 firms because each firm offers different funds to give me more flexibility. Interesting enough about the market is that until 2007 the markets did a little better under democrat presidency than republican presidents but changed when Obama became president. Markets were stable but stagnant under Obama.
Thanks, Joe, Nancy, Chuck and the Dems.
Private job growth totals 807,000 in December, doubling expectations, ADP says
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/05/adp-december-2021.html?__source=androidappshare
Private job growth totaled 807,000 for the month, well ahead of the Dow Jones estimate for 375,000 and the November gain of 505,000 according to ADP.
Hiring was broad-based, though leisure and hospitality led with 246,000 new positions.
Businesses with 500 or more employees accounted for the bulk of the gains in December, adding 389,000 jobs.Shhhh. Don't tell Mainstream Media pundits about this. Please.
Elvis 2008
01-05-22, 20:05
The only people who don't care about January 6th are the 74+ million fools who voted for the former guy. People like you, Elvis, Cali and a few others. Your comment of "politicians scared for one day" says it all.Oh please. The protestors killed no one. There was video of police letting protestors in. The only person killed was a protestor. A cop dies of a stroke and the lamestrain media says for months that the protestors did him in. The most famous guy there, the one with the weird buffalo hat, who sat on Nancy Pelosi's throne was actively talking with a cop in the room.
The FBI did the Russiagate thing which is something you douches still believe is true. Putin fixed the election! What other reason could there be? Then there was Ukrainegate and now the Capitol thing, and all because Trump had the balls to call out the swamp.
So we have fuckers like Fauci in office, highest paid government worker there is, shilling for vaccine / drug companies, and there is this never ending rotation of people from government into the private sector. That is why Loudon county in Virginia is the richest in America, the selling of political influence. The average voter is completely tuned out.
And you make it out like some fringe faction thinks the election was stolen when 47% of Americans including 30% of Democrats think it was. I knew Georgia was going Dems in the senate race after I saw what happened there in the presidential election. It was a no-brainer.
My take on the whole thing was fighting it was a waste of time. No judge even the gutless Supreme Court was going to take this on. They were bashed just for following the law in Florida for GW Bush. And now if you do not watch the videos of police actively assisting protestors, you are delusional. This was every bit as staged as Russiagate was.
It does not matter. Your ilk is determined to not have Trump run for president. You all have done all you can to undermine the Democratic process and to prevent him from serving as president and did all you could so he would not serve again.
You guys think January 6 was worse than 9-11 when no one died on 1-6. WTF? To me, this just shows how the media is tied in with the swamp like it was with all the other BS from the CIA and FBI. Russiagate, Ukrainegate, and 1-6 are all the same to me. As Matt Taibbi said, the Hunter Biden laptop story was not that some sleazeball was pedaling influence for dollars and fucking underage women and doing drugs but for the first time ever, the whole incident was banned from the lamestream media.
Your claim of cultist worship miss the fucking point. None of us are in love with Trump, but he is the only one we trust to at least take a whack at the big tech-media-Democrat-swamp alliance. I even have talked to fellow Republicans who have told me they hope Biden hangs on because the one thing they absolutely do not want more than anything is President Kamala Harris. Given how Biden can seemingly never put together a complete sentence IMO the attacks on him have been mild. We all know the guy is not all there.
So Trump will win in 2024 if nothing else due to the fucking censorship you douches have been advocating. WTF is up with that?
Trump should have had more people watching the ballots and he will next time. There was no cheating in 2020 but this time we are going to make sure there is really no cheating in 2022 and 2024 not that cheating had an effect on the election (cough, cough). So my take on things is Trump lost the election because he saw it could be stolen and did not take enough action to prevent that.
I am not the cultist you think I am and maybe in 2028 you guys can come with a candidate with all his facilities present that I might consider voting for. The only presidential vote I regret in my life was for Dole in 1996 over Clinton. I voted for Obama in 2008 and still would. Quite frankly, the country is at its best when you have two leaders who are super intelligent going at each other. This country had the most prosperity then when Clinton was president and Gingrich ruled Congress.
And now we have fossils like Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer. No wonder our economy has gone to shit. So tell me PV, when have you voted for a Republican?
Oh please. The protestors killed no one. There was video of police letting protestors in. The only person killed was a protestor. A cop dies of a stroke and the lamestrain media says for months that the protestors did him in. The most famous guy there, the one with the weird buffalo hat, who sat on Nancy Pelosi's throne was actively talking with a cop in the room.
The FBI did the Russiagate thing which is something you douches still believe is true. Putin fixed the election! What other reason could there be? Then there was Ukrainegate and now the Capitol thing, and all because Trump had the balls to call out the swamp.
So we have fuckers like Fauci in office, highest paid government worker there is, shilling for vaccine / drug companies, and there is this never ending rotation of people from government into the private sector. That is why Loudon county in Virginia is the richest in America, the selling of political influence. The average voter is completely tuned out.
And you make it out like some fringe faction thinks the election was stolen when 47% of Americans including 30% of Democrats think it was. I knew Georgia was going Dems in the senate race after I saw what happened there in the presidential election. It was a no-brainer.
My take on the whole thing was fighting it was a waste of time. No judge even the gutless Supreme Court was going to take this on. They were bashed just for following the law in Florida for GW Bush. And now if you do not watch the videos of police actively assisting protestors, you are delusional. This was every bit as staged as Russiagate was.
It does not matter. Your ilk is determined to not have Trump run for president. You all have done all you can to undermine the Democratic process and to prevent him from serving as president and did all you could so he would not serve again.Great post but the socialists here don't like the truth.
I support full scale civil war.What else is new?
The long, dangerous history of right-wing calls for violence and civil war
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/11/long-dangerous-history-far-rights-calls-violence-civil-war
EihTooms;2647032][QUOTE=CaliGuy;2646844]I am a financial advisor for a major firm in San Diego. Our firm does not give any Credit to the current administration for increased market prices. In fact it rarely gives credit for good or bad in the market to any administration. The market increased dramatically in 2017,2018 and 2029 when Trump reversed a lot of Obama regulations especially for energy industry and financial industry. By end of 2019 China virus hit the world and business stopped in USA and the world. After a bleak 2020 and 3 vaccines hitting consumers in late 2020 it was expected that the market would stabilize and return to the gains made from 2017-2019 and it did. Since the new virus is less deadly than the last the market is stable. No credit is given to current administration. With the BBB virtually non existent now and Biden facing an election year our firm is expecting stable market. Most of my clients are 401 k and retirement funds so last 5 years have been extremely good. Once Biden tried destroying the oil industry we saw an increased opportunity for our clients in oil stocks once the administration drove down production and drove up oil and gas prices. Our average return on the energy side for oil was 68 per cent. For the wealthy and middle class who funded their 401 K to the max 2021 was a good year. It is an election year and the democrats are going to try to jam some socialist program or green program through but we do not expect that to happen. Expect a slight correction in March when feds raise interest rates for first time in years. / QUOTE]Really, this post is such a cornucopia of delights, I can't resist another reply. LOL.
Aside from his historic 2018 CDC defunding disaster and his incomparable contributions to creating Trump's Pandemic in the first place, you do remember that Trump's lamebrained policies slammed the USA Manufacturing and Agro sector, right? Gee, we're all happy that he further subsidized the oil and energy sectors. Those poor dears need all the additional subsidies and corporate welfare they can get.
Meanwhile, thanks to his zero gain trade war against China, Trump had to send more Socialist welfare checks to USA Farmers just to keep them afloat:
[be]Administration announces $12 billion in aid to farmers hurt by Trump's trade war.
The president tweeted on Tuesday that "Tariffs are the greatest!" Farmers don't think so. [ / be].
July 6, 2018.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/administration-offer-billions-aid-farmers-hurt-trump-s-trade-war-n894066.
And he drove the USA Manufacturing sector directly into Recession:
Manufacturing 'in a recession', Fed's data show[ / be].
July 16,2019.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-industrial-production-slumps-in-second-quarter-2019-07-16.
Yep, all pre Trump's Pandemic, Mr. Financial Advisor.
Why do you bother posting irrelevant data. The Dow is officially up 84 per cent in last 5 years. Easy to check on any computer. My portfolio is up 100 per cent. Cali Guy post is totally correct and you are trying to confuse the issue with irrelevant information. Pathetic.
Oh please. The protestors killed no one. There was video of police letting protestors in. The only person killed was a protestor. A cop dies of a stroke and the lamestrain media says for months that the protestors did him in. The most famous guy there, the one with the weird buffalo hat, who sat on Nancy Pelosi's throne was actively talking with a cop in the room.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_United_States_Capitol_attack
1 person was killed (a protestor) but 4 others died, one from an overdose and 3 from natural causes so let's skip over the deaths. You conveniently forgot to mention that 138 police officers were injured. Why do I think that if this had been a "Black Lives Matter" protest or something you would call a leftist group and 138 police officers were injured you would be howling like a mad dog that these creatures have to be held accountable. The rule of law yadda yadda yadda.
The FBI did the Russiagate thing which is something you douches still believe is true. Putin fixed the election! What other reason could there be? As usual, you have selective memory. Didn't the Directer of the FBI (James Comey) announce that the FBI was still actively investigating Hillary Clinton's emails just 11 days before the election? When has the FBI ever made an announcement about an ongoing investigation? And less than 2 weeks before the election?
And you make it out like some fringe faction thinks the election was stolen when 47% of Americans including 30% of Democrats think it was. I knew Georgia was going Dems in the senate race after I saw what happened there in the presidential election. It was a no-brainer.
My take on the whole thing was fighting it was a waste of time. No judge even the gutless Supreme Court was going to take this on. They were bashed just for following the law in Florida for GW Bush. And now if you do not watch the videos of police actively assisting protestors, you are delusional. This was every bit as staged as Russiagate was.The best polling done on whether there was voter fraud was done by Monmouth University and they conducted several polls each a few months apart. 32% is the number (not your 47% fantasy number).
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/559402-one-third-of-americans-believe-biden-won-because-of-voter-fraud-poll
By the way didn't the Trump Appointed Attorney General William Barr announce that the Justice Department had conducted an investigation and there was "no evidence of widespread voter fraud that would have changed the outcome of the election. ". That announcement coming from a complete Trump lackey, makes it surprising that some conspiracy theorists continue to champion this absurd claim.
https://apnews.com/article/barr-no-widespread-election-fraud-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d
.........And now we have fossils like Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer. No wonder our economy has gone to shit. So tell me PV, when have you voted for a Republican?Oh and on the subject of fossils I'm surprised you overlooked a few others like Chucky Grassley, Richard Shelby, and Jim Inhofe. Inhofe is really quite famous for tossing a snowball during a Senate session to support his claim that climate change doesn't exist. I was expecting him to eat a hot-dog and claim that World Hunger didn't exist either.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/06/10/americas-image-abroad-rebounds-with-transition-from-trump-to-biden/
"The election of Joe Biden as president has led to a dramatic shift in America's international image. Throughout Donald Trump's presidency, publics around the world held the United States in low regard, with most opposed to his foreign policies. This was especially true among key American allies and partners. Now, a new Pew Research Center survey of 16 publics finds a significant uptick in ratings for the USA, with strong support for Biden and several of his major policy initiatives. "
Just look at the charts in the article.
The cultists will say that this is all "fake news" of course and will use whataboutism to "prove it".
MarquisdeSade1
01-05-22, 23:15
What else is new?
The long, dangerous history of right-wing calls for violence and civil war
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/11/long-dangerous-history-far-rights-calls-violence-civil-war81.4 million gun owners vs the anti gun cucks.
My money is on the gun owners!
The 2 A provides for recourse when elections / democracy are being stolen!!
https://www.google.com/search?q=american+gun+owners&source=hp&ei=FRfWYdm3 JO2 iptQP4 aaZ6 Ag&iflsig=ALs-wAMAAAAAYdYlJQfk3 i74 HAUEeFCZzcyDlgi1 ahHJ&ved=0 ahUKEwiZlvWN0 Jv1 AhVtkYkEHWFTBo0 Q4 dUDCAk&uact=5&oq=american+gun+owners&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3 Mtd2 l6 EAMyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEOhEILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARDRAzoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6 CAguELEDEIMBOgUILhCABDoOCC4 QgAQQsQMQxwEQ0 QM6 DgguEIAEELEDEMcBEKMCOgsILhCABBDHARCjAjoICAAQgAQQsQM6 CwguEIAEELEDEIMBOggILhCABBCxAzoOCC4 QgAQQsQMQxwEQrwE6 CwguEIAEEMcBEK8 BOgcIABCxAxAKOgoIABCxAxCxAxAKUABYpx9 g4 CBoAHAAeACAAcoEiAG0 K5 IBCzEuNS43 LjEuMi4 zmAEAoAEB&sclient=gws-wiz.
There are estimated to be over 400 million guns in the United States between police, the military, and American civilians. Over 393 Million (Over 98%) of those guns are in civilian hands, the equivalent of 120 firearms per 100 citizens. The average gun owning American has 5 firearms, while nearly 22% of gun owners only have a single firearm.
Currently reading this book. Anyone else ?
https://www.amazon.com/Changing-World-Order-Nations-Succeed/dp/1982160276/ref=sr_1_1?crid=205NUSV8PKSFH&keywords=the+changing+world+order+ray+dalio&qid=1641422816&sprefix=the+changing+%2 Caps%2 C134&sr=8-1.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/06/10/americas-image-abroad-rebounds-with-transition-from-trump-to-biden/
"The election of Joe Biden as president has led to a dramatic shift in America's international image. Throughout Donald Trump's presidency, publics around the world held the United States in low regard, with most opposed to his foreign policies. This was especially true among key American allies and partners. Now, a new Pew Research Center survey of 16 publics finds a significant uptick in ratings for the USA, with strong support for Biden and several of his major policy initiatives. "
Just look at the charts in the article.
The cultists will say that this is all "fake news" of course and will use whataboutism to "prove it".Election of Biden has definitely made a shift internationally for the USA. USA has gone from the leader of the international scene to a weakling lagging behind. Europe loves a weak USA. NATO loves a weak USA that doesn't force them to pay their fare share as in Trump presidency. China and Russia are ecstatic that they can bully USA. Russia getting their pipeline from a weak America. Biden to scared to even bring up human rights with China. These countries that love the USA are happy to take advantage of our incompetent leader. What a joke that someone would even bring this up.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/06/10/americas-image-abroad-rebounds-with-transition-from-trump-to-biden/
"The election of Joe Biden as president has led to a dramatic shift in America's international image. Throughout Donald Trump's presidency, publics around the world held the United States in low regard, with most opposed to his foreign policies. This was especially true among key American allies and partners. Now, a new Pew Research Center survey of 16 publics finds a significant uptick in ratings for the USA, with strong support for Biden and several of his major policy initiatives. "
Just look at the charts in the article.
The cultists will say that this is all "fake news" of course and will use whataboutism to "prove it".It isn't fake news.
Not only Europe by China, Russia, Iran and North Korea all love USA now that Biden is president. It is the best case possible for them because Biden is not capable of holding these countries accountable like Trump did. With Trump USA was a powerhouse internationally but unfortunately now the weakling getting pushed around like we saw in the last 12 months. Glad you brought this up.
Obviously you are uneducated in the financial world and are not involved in it. Dow was just over 18,000 January 2017 and it is now 36000. The market was consistent in 2018 between 23,000 to 27,000 with solid growth. That is about 100 per cent increase. My clients have done really well. They are happy and I get referrals daily. My clients invest for long term wealth. The building of wealth is better with fluctuations in the market. Every correction is an opportunity to buy. Market crashing from Covid actually helped their portfolios because they were able to buy depressed stocks.
Obviously you have no clue on investing and have not capitalized on the market to date. If you are making investments in the market when republicans are in power then you are not participating in the market. If you were one of the stupid ones and I had a few clients like that who sold all their portfolio when Trump became president you lost big time. I had 2 clients who sold everything when Trump became president. $1,500,000 and $2,400,000 portfolios that now would be $3,000,000 and $5,000,000 portfolios.I realize I am talking to a self-proclaimed financial advisor who never noticed the difference between a Great Repub Depression / Recession, Massive Jobs Destruction and Deep Bear Market Crash, which has been all of them over the past 100 years, vs a Great Dem Recovery / Expansion, Massive Jobs Creation and Historic Bull Market Run, which has been all of them over the past 100 years. But the fact that you focus on the 30 stocks in the DOW as the go-to measure for how well the broad USA Stock market is doing is further proof you really should return whatever money your client wasted on you.
Yes, of course, all of those Great Repub Depressions / Recessions and Deep Bear Market Crashes of the past 100 years, the only ones America has suffered in all that time, were lovely buying opportunities for anyone who got out at the top, did not stay in the market to ride it all the way down and was flush with cash to buy back in at the bottom. Thanks for the kind of advice that anyone could have gotten on the back of a Bazooka Bubble Gum comic; Buy low and sell high. Really? But based on this and every other post of yours, I am quite sure your advice did not get your client out of the market at the top and have them wait until some unknown bottom to buy back in more often than perhaps one inadvertent lucky time.
And actually, you only told us half of the scenario for your supposedly failed clients. I mean, you do know there is another side of those transactions, right? If those clients had sold out when Trump came into office and then bought back in at or near the bottom of each of his two Bear Market Crashes, they would have done quite well vs buying and holding through 4 years of the average annual 16.8% gains we got during his Recession and Massive Jobs Loss-ridden four years in the Wall Street and industry standard for the broader USA Stock market, the S&P 500 Index. Did they?
Why do you bother posting irrelevant data. The Dow is officially up 84 per cent in last 5 years. Easy to check on any computer. My portfolio is up 100 per cent. Cali Guy post is totally correct and you are trying to confuse the issue with irrelevant information. Pathetic. LOL. The DOW again. OK, I'll play along:
Dow Jones Returns by Year
https://www.slickcharts.com/dowjones/returns
2020 = +7.25%.
2019 = +22.34%.
2018 = -5.63%.
2017 = +25.08.
Average annual gain in the DOW during Trump's presidency = 12.26%.
Really, you guys should have gone with the Wall Street and financial industry standard for measuring the USA Stock market, the S&P 500 Index, instead of the DOW, which is the darling of typically lazy and far less informed and involved financial media. See, the lazy and far less informed financial media, the ones you guys apparently watch on tv and think that makes you "financial advisors", love the DOW because those 30 stocks provide of a lot of exciting volatility to report on every day. But real financial advisors and those involved daily in the canyons of Wall Street more properly refer to the S&P 500 Index for their measure. Just FYI.
Gallup poll shows largest increase in Democratic Party affiliation in a decade
April 7, 2021.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/07/gallup-survey-shows-largest-increase-democratic-party-affiliation-decade/7114860002/
A Dwindling Republican Party May Be Doomed to Shrink More
April 8, 2021.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/04/fewer-americans-identify-as-republican-in-2021-gallup.html
From Gallup comes news that its regular polling on party affiliation shows the largest quarterly gap in major party affiliation since 2012, with 49 percent of U.S. adults identifying themselves as either Democrats (30 percent) or as Democratic-leaning independents (19 percent), while 40 percent call themselves Republicans (25 percent) or Republican-leaning independents (15 percent).Yes, these reports were about 9 months ago and a lot has happened in the past 9 months. But the underlying reasons for that major shift have only become more stark.
So when you see the polls of the past few months, it is worth noting if the polling service simply surveyed a roughly equal number of self-identified Dems, Repubs and Independents. If they did, then they were probably way over-sampling "Repub-leaning" respondents, which is a significantly smaller percentage of the American public and voters than those who are "Dem-leaning."
ScatManDoo
01-06-22, 03:27
81.4 million gun owners vs the anti gun cucks.So does that make around 250 million Americans that do not own guns?
I think so, but not all are voters.
Those gun owners need to behave themselves.
Or their asses will get out voted.
Great report. Pretty much sums up what my financial advisors have told me the last year. I use 2 of the 3 biggest firms in USA with 2/3 in one and 1/3 in the other. Both of them would agree with you totally. I use 2 firms because each firm offers different funds to give me more flexibility. Interesting enough about the market is that until 2007 the markets did a little better under democrat presidency than republican presidents but changed when Obama became president. Markets were stable but stagnant under Obama.Nope. It didn't change under Obama.
Klipinger just ran their Wall Street professional and financial industry standard S&P 500 Index measured ranking for the USA Stock Market performance per USA president right up to and including Biden's first year and, as expected, the average annual returns for Biden, Obama and Clinton each surpassed that of Trump, George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush and, what the hell, let's throw Reagan in there too.
With Biden being best.
https://www.kiplinger.com/investing/602714/best-and-worst-presidents-according-to-the-stock-market
Election of Biden has definitely made a shift internationally for the USA. USA has gone from the leader of the international scene to a weakling lagging behind. Europe loves a weak USA. NATO loves a weak USA that doesn't force them to pay their fare share as in Trump presidency. China and Russia are ecstatic that they can bully USA. Russia getting their pipeline from a weak America. Biden to scared to even bring up human rights with China. These countries that love the USA are happy to take advantage of our incompetent leader. What a joke that someone would even bring this up.I said that Europe is smarter than Republicans and I was correct.
LOL. The DOW again. OK, I'll play along:
Dow Jones Returns by Year
https://www.slickcharts.com/dowjones/returns
2020 = +7.25%.
2019 = +22.34%.
2018 = -5.63%.
2017 = +25.08.
Average annual gain in the DOW during Trump's presidency = 12.26%.
Really, you guys should have gone with the Wall Street and financial industry standard for measuring the USA Stock market, the S&P 500 Index, instead of the DOW, which is the darling of typically lazy and far less informed and involved financial media. See, the lazy and far less informed financial media, the ones you guys apparently watch on tv and think that makes you "financial advisors", love the DOW because those 30 stocks provide of a lot of exciting volatility to report on every day. But real financial advisors and those involved daily in the canyons of Wall Street more properly refer to the S&P 500 Index for their measure. Just FYI.Why didn't you just go to the financial page and click on the Dow and then click on 5 year total and get the real number rather than go to a site that determines it their own way? If you go to the Dow you will have the real number.
I realize I am talking to a self-proclaimed financial advisor who never noticed the difference between a Great Repub Depression / Recession, Massive Jobs Destruction and Deep Bear Market Crash, which has been all of them over the past 100 years, vs a Great Dem Recovery / Expansion, Massive Jobs Creation and Historic Bull Market Run, which has been all of them over the past 100 years. But the fact that you focus on the 30 stocks in the DOW as the go-to measure for how well the broad USA Stock market is doing is further proof you really should return whatever money your client wasted on you.
Yes, of course, all of those Great Repub Depressions / Recessions and Deep Bear Market Crashes of the past 100 years, the only ones America has suffered in all that time, were lovely buying opportunities for anyone who got out at the top, did not stay in the market to ride it all the way down and was flush with cash to buy back in at the bottom. Thanks for the kind of advice that anyone could have gotten on the back of a Bazooka Bubble Gum comic; Buy low and sell high. Really? But based on this and every other post of yours, I am quite sure your advice did not get your client out of the market at the top and have them wait until some unknown bottom to buy back in more often than perhaps one inadvertent lucky time.
And actually, you only told us half of the scenario for your supposedly failed clients. I mean, you do know there is another side of those transactions, right? If those clients had sold out when Trump came into office and then bought back in at or near the bottom of each of his two Bear Market Crashes, they would have done quite well vs buying and holding through 4 years of the average annual 16.8% gains we got during his Recession and Massive Jobs Loss-ridden four years in the Wall Street and industry standard for the broader USA Stock market, the S&P 500 Index. Did they?Like I previously said you obviously are not knowledgeable in the market. The clients that sold their stock when Trump was elected took their loss and market increased dramatically in 2017. My clients did not buy back in and they lost millions. Since you know nothing about investing I will try to explain to you that when someone's portfolio is up 68-80 per cent in 4 years of Trump presidencies their is no other side to it. Their net worth has gone up 68-80 percent. There has not been a crash in the last 20 years. Their have been corrections in the market for extraordinary reasons but to someone that has some knowledge they look at those corrections as opportunities. My clients make more money after a correction which is proven over the last 50 years. You stick to your government handout and I will stick to making my clients millions.
LOL. The DOW again. OK, I'll play along:
Dow Jones Returns by Year
https://www.slickcharts.com/dowjones/returns
2020 = +7.25%.
2019 = +22.34%.
2018 = -5.63%.
2017 = +25.08.
Average annual gain in the DOW during Trump's presidency = 12.26%.
Really, you guys should have gone with the Wall Street and financial industry standard for measuring the USA Stock market, the S&P 500 Index, instead of the DOW, which is the darling of typically lazy and far less informed and involved financial media. See, the lazy and far less informed financial media, the ones you guys apparently watch on tv and think that makes you "financial advisors", love the DOW because those 30 stocks provide of a lot of exciting volatility to report on every day. But real financial advisors and those involved daily in the canyons of Wall Street more properly refer to the S&P 500 Index for their measure. Just FYI.The Dow publishes their numbers. Go to the Dow sight. Not rocket science. You can find anything on the internet to contradict everything. Slick charts? Are you kidding? Why do you keep trying to deceive everyone? Why don't you publish the Dow numbers from Dow?
Nope. It didn't change under Obama.
Klipinger just ran their Wall Street professional and financial industry standard S&P 500 Index measured ranking for the USA Stock Market performance per USA president right up to and including Biden's first year and, as expected, the average annual returns for Biden, Obama and Clinton each surpassed that of Trump, George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush and, what the hell, let's throw Reagan in there too.
With Biden being best.
https://www.kiplinger.com/investing/602714/best-and-worst-presidents-according-to-the-stock-marketAmazing someone like you with absolutely no knowledge of the market and investing can contradict all the major financial institutions in the USA.
Nope. It didn't change under Obama.
Kiplinger just ran their Wall Street professional and financial industry standard S&P 500 Index measured ranking for the USA Stock Market performance per USA president right up to and including Biden's first year and, as expected, the average annual returns for Biden, Obama and Clinton each surpassed that of Trump, George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush and, what the hell, let's throw Reagan in there too.
With Biden being best.
https://www.kiplinger.com/investing/602714/best-and-worst-presidents-according-to-the-stock-marketYou know, I have to comment that Kiplinger being part of financial media, it is not immune from the usual pretzel twisting all Mainstream Media puts itself through to make Repubs look like "winners" in the face of their typical economic and stock market disastrous failures as well as trying to make Dems look like "losers" in the face of their typical economic and stock market great successes.
Case in point is how they spin Trump's stock market performance. The black highlights are mine.
Donald Trump's presidency was far from calm, and you could say the same for the stock market during his tenure. Equities just barely managed to avoid bear-market territory in Q4 2018, then ended up rallying for more than a year before suffering a dramatic (albeit quick) bear market in 2020.
Even then, Trump still managed to finish his single term as one of the top presidents by market performance, which was fueled in part by his Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. However, that performance also included a wild rally after Election Day 2020.
"The S&P 500 gained 11.8% in price from Election Day on November 3, 2020 through January 15, 2021 in what is now on track to become the best Election-to-Inauguration Day return for a first-term president since WWII," writes Sam Stovall, Chief Investment Strategist for CFRA, referring to Biden's pre-inauguration bump. "John F. Kennedy came in second with an 8.8% price rise, while Eisenhower was third with 6.3%. Conversely, Presidents Obama, Bush-43, and Nixon endured declines of 19.9%, 6.2%, and 1.4%, respectively."First of all, the broad USA Stock market did not "manage to avoid bear-market territory in Q4 2018. " I have been pointing out that the broad USA Stock market experienced 2 Bear Market Crashes defined as a decline of 20% or more from a recent high during Trump's 4 year presidency and I am right. Sorry, Kiplinger, but the broadest USA Stock market Index of all, The Wilshire 5000 Total Market Index, so named because it represents the "total" USA Stock market and not just the 30 stocks in the DOW or the 500 stocks in the S&P 500 Index, closed at 30,462. 49 on September 20,2018 and then closed at 24,151. 43 on December 24,2018. That is a decline from the recent high of 20.73%, also known as a Bear Market Crash.
And that first of his two Bear Market Crash declines began just 9 months after his god-awful waste of $2.5+ Trillion added to the deficit Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was signed and passed, something Kiplinger seems to think contributed to his ok stock market results. Oh please.
I would put the URL for the Yahoo! Finance Wilshire 5000 Total Market Index link right here for you to click on "Historical Data, Historical Prices" and put in those dates or a few days before and after them to see for yourselves. But there is some weird glitch going on with this site and when I do that the URL is huge. Like half a page. LOL. So just do a Google Search for that and it is easy to find.
And, second, check out how they try to make it appear as though "the best Election-to-Inauguration Day return for a first-term president since WWII" was some feather to put in Trump's cap! LOL. They are referring to the great rally after Biden won the 2020 election!
Now, I am not a believer in attributing anything that happens in the economy or the stock market to an incoming president starting on election day or inauguration day. Primarily because both of those metrics have never significantly changed the trajectory they were already on for months or years prior to those dates. What happens immediately after election day with a new incoming president has practically nothing to do with the person who won and who has not done anything yet.
OK, so a big decision is about to be made on an election day. Therefore, as usual anytime a big decision is about to be made or an important bit of news is about to be reported like the Jobs Numbers, a Fed Decision, an Election and so on, stock market investors hang back for often significant amounts of time prior to the decision being made or news reported and then once the decision is made they celebrate that the world did not come to an end after all and they simply resume either the buying or selling they were doing prior to the election period but with slightly more enthusiasm, trying to catch up. That is all that happens.
Those two trajectories didn't change notably starting on election day when FDR won, when Reagan won or when Obama won. They sure as hell weren't going to change significantly when Trump won in 2016 and were not likely to go nuts just because Biden won in 2020. Mainstream Media would have been working very hard to prevent that latter event from happening anyway. In the midst of Trump's Pandemic, Biden had to actually start doing something and passing some very important and effective economic stimulus for that to happen. He did and it happened.
And so I am sticking to that opinion and judgement even though it obviously helps Trump's overall record on the stock market to have benefitted from that historic stock market rally that started right after he was soundly defeated in a Trump-defined landslide election win for Joe Biden. Besides, all three of the most recent Dem presidents beat Trump's average annual stock market performance anyway.
The Dow publishes their numbers. Go to the Dow sight. Not rocket science. You can find anything on the internet to contradict everything. Slick charts? Are you kidding? Why do you keep trying to deceive everyone? Why don't you publish the Dow numbers from Dow?Why don't you post the link for that here. When I do, the URL is huge.
There is no need to do that, the net is full of reliable sources that post the same annual DOW returns.
Do you think Microtrends is lying about it too? Their numbers are exactly the same as Slick Charts and dozens of other sources, all of which are easy links to see the annual numbers we are talking about here.
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Happy with that URL?
Why didn't you just go to the financial page and click on the Dow and then click on 5 year total and get the real number rather than go to a site that determines it their own way? If you go to the Dow you will have the real number.5 year total? Do all you wannabe financial advisors think a presidential terms is 5 years?
Like I previously said you obviously are not knowledgeable in the market. The clients that sold their stock when Trump was elected took their loss and market increased dramatically in 2017. My clients did not buy back in and they lost millions. Since you know nothing about investing I will try to explain to you that when someone's portfolio is up 68-80 per cent in 4 years of Trump presidencies their is no other side to it. Their net worth has gone up 68-80 percent. There has not been a crash in the last 20 years. Their have been corrections in the market for extraordinary reasons but to someone that has some knowledge they look at those corrections as opportunities. My clients make more money after a correction which is proven over the last 50 years. You stick to your government handout and I will stick to making my clients millions.Sure, I can believe Trump's 4 year term only delivered a stock market gain of 68-80% You know why? Because Obama's 8 year term delivered a stock market gain of 235%. Which, last time I checked and without any financial advice at all, is quite a bit more than double 68-80%.
I was actually trying to give you wannabe "DOW" financial advisors a fighting chance by breaking it down to average annual gains, where Trump is not far behind Obama on that count.
But have it your way.
I said that Europe is smarter than Republicans and I was correct.Can you explain how the USA having an incompetent president and is weak in international foreign policy makes Europe smarter? Did they help elect our incompetent president to make the EU stronger? Or are you just babbling nonsense?
MarquisdeSade1
01-06-22, 19:30
So does that make around 250 million Americans that do not own guns?
I think so, but not all are voters.
Those gun owners need to behave themselves.
Or their asses will get out voted.They will behave until "behaving" isn't appropriate anymore.
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/biden-approval-drops-35-percent/2022/01/06/id/1051303/
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/yougov-leader-american-citizens/2022/01/05/id/1051221/
Outvoted? Yeah right like Nov 2020?
The dnc has been trying to take their guns for over 50 yrs.
Rhetorical question?
Why do you think they "stockpile" so many guns.
I call them a "rainy day arsenal".
Nov 2024?
MarquisdeSade1
01-06-22, 20:03
Amazing someone like you with absolutely no knowledge of the market and investing can contradict all the major financial institutions in the USA.https://www.newsmax.com/headline/trump-respond-biden-jan-6/2022/01/06/id/1051282/
https://www.newsmax.com/headline/trump-respond-biden-jan-6/2022/01/06/id/1051282/
"Never forget the crime of the 2020 Presidential Election. Never give up!"- Donald J. Trump, the worst so-called potus in history.
Leave it to an America-hating Repub to declare free and fair elections in America to be a "crime".
Trump should have insisted his DOJ look at whatever evidence there was for an alleged pro Biden "crime" in that election and take action to prosecute those responsible for it.
Oh wait. He did. His DOJ found no evidence of it.
Then Trump should have insisted attorneys take their evidence to dozens of courts in the land to bring the perpetrators to justice. Take it to Repub judges, even Trump-appointed Repub judges just to be sure.
Oh wait. They did. They were laughed out of court.
BTW, why did "Cancel Culture" Repub Trump cancel his own planned televised distraction from the official Annual January 6 America-hating Anti-America Trump Insurrection Cop-Killing Mob Attack Reminder Ceremony?
Like I previously said you obviously are not knowledgeable in the market. The clients that sold their stock when Trump was elected took their loss and market increased dramatically in 2017. My clients did not buy back in and they lost millions. Since you know nothing about investing I will try to explain to you that when someone's portfolio is up 68-80 per cent in 4 years of Trump presidencies their is no other side to it. Their net worth has gone up 68-80 percent. There has not been a crash in the last 20 years. Their have been corrections in the market for extraordinary reasons but to someone that has some knowledge they look at those corrections as opportunities. My clients make more money after a correction which is proven over the last 50 years. You stick to your government handout and I will stick to making my clients millions.So they defied your advice and sold out of the market when Trump took office and missed out on the gains in 2017 from the continuation of the historic upward Bull Market Run trajectory established and triggered by Obama and the Dems by their passage of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act passed in late February 2009 without a single Repub vote while Trump passed nothing until the last business day of that year 2017.
Then the year Trump's one and only significant economic "stimulus" legislation took effect, 2018, Trump had the first of his two Bear Market Crashes and it did not occur to you to advise them to buy back into the market at or near the bottom of either of them?
Sad. If you had advised them to do that they would have come out way ahead of just riding those two Trump Bear Market Crashes all the way down and back up again over the next four years. Well, the second one came back up again in historic fashion under Biden since a presidential term is only 4 years and not 5. But you know what I mean.
Or did you not notice Trump's first Bear Market Crash in 2018 and his second one in 2020?
ScatManDoo
01-07-22, 00:19
Can you explain how the USA having an incompetent president and is weak in international foreign policy makes Europe smarter?Why did you hold back this question for two to three years?
MarquisdeSade1
01-07-22, 00:29
Can you explain how the USA having an incompetent president and is weak in international foreign policy makes Europe smarter? Did they help elect our incompetent president to make the EU stronger? Or are you just babbling nonsense?https://www.newsmax.com/finance/streettalk/donald-trump-truth-social-app/2022/01/06/id/1051347/
MarquisdeSade1
01-07-22, 03:45
- Donald J. Trump, the worst so-called potus in history.
Leave it to an America-hating Repub to declare free and fair elections in America to be a "crime".
Trump should have insisted his DOJ look at whatever evidence there was for an alleged pro Biden "crime" in that election and take action to prosecute those responsible for it.
Oh wait. He did. His DOJ found no evidence of it.
Then Trump should have insisted attorneys take their evidence to dozens of courts in the land to bring the perpetrators to justice. Take it to Repub judges, even Trump-appointed Repub judges just to be sure.
Oh wait. They did. They were laughed out of court.
BTW, why did "Cancel Culture" Repub Trump cancel his own planned televised distraction from the official Annual January 6 America-hating Anti-America Trump Insurrection Cop-Killing Mob Attack Reminder Ceremony?https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/how-the-2020-election-was-rigged/
https://www.newsmax.com/headline/trump-respond-biden-jan-6/2022/01/06/id/1051282/
https://www.newsmax.com/finance/streettalk/donald-trump-truth-social-app/2022/01/06/id/1051347/With a shady Chinese firm's money and almost definitely China's government oversight and control. Lolol.
https://texassignal.com/the-chinese-business-interests-behind-trumps-social-media-site/
Yep, Donald "Make sure I win" Trump, the proven Xi butt licker, strikes again!
Oh please. The protestors killed no one. There was video of police letting protestors in. The only person killed was a protestor. A cop dies of a stroke and the lamestrain media says for months that the protestors did him in. The most famous guy there, the one with the weird buffalo hat, who sat on Nancy Pelosi's throne was actively talking with a cop in the room.
The FBI did the Russiagate thing which is something you douches still believe is true. Putin fixed the election! What other reason could there be? Then there was Ukrainegate and now the Capitol thing, and all because Trump had the balls to call out the swamp.
So we have fuckers like Fauci in office, highest paid government worker there is, shilling for vaccine / drug companies, and there is this never ending rotation of people from government into the private sector. That is why Loudon county in Virginia is the richest in America, the selling of political influence. The average voter is completely tuned out.
And you make it out like some fringe faction thinks the election was stolen when 47% of Americans including 30% of Democrats think it was. I knew Georgia was going Dems in the senate race after I saw what happened there in the presidential election. It was a no-brainer.
My take on the whole thing was fighting it was a waste of time. No judge even the gutless Supreme Court was going to take this on. They were bashed just for following the law in Florida for GW Bush. And now if you do not watch the videos of police actively assisting protestors, you are delusional. This was every bit as staged as Russiagate was.
It does not matter. Your ilk is determined to not have Trump run for president. You all have done all you can to undermine the Democratic process and to prevent him from serving as president and did all you could so he would not serve again..You asked when have I voted for a Republican. Since my first vote in 1972, I have voted for non-Republicans exactly twice (that means 2 times). The first time (1) was in 1996 when I voted for Ross Perot. The second (2) time was in 2008 when I voted for Obama. I have only not voted once in 2016. So one might say that I am a card-carrying Republican.
But one thing separates me from the current cult. I have a brain. I can see that the current Republican party is a cult. If a legislator doesn't knuckle under and kiss the former guy's butt, they get cancelled. If you don't believe in all of the cockamamie conspiracy theories, you are ostracized. The current Republican party are a bunch of fascists, racists, bullies, dummies and con men (and women). The current Republican party wants to go back to the 1860's when slavery was legal and women couldn't vote.
81.4 million gun owners vs the anti gun cucks.
My money is on the gun owners!
The 2 A provides for recourse when elections / democracy are being stolen!!
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There are estimated to be over 400 million guns in the United States between police, the military, and American civilians. Over 393 Million (Over 98%) of those guns are in civilian hands, the equivalent of 120 firearms per 100 citizens. The average gun owning American has 5 firearms, while nearly 22% of gun owners only have a single firearm.Why, thank you for sticking to MY point.
The ultra-right extremists are willing to plunge the nation into the civil war because they don't like the guy who fairly won the election?
Like I said, what else is new?
And nice touch counting the police and military as if they'll have anything to do with your lunatic brethren, LOL.
And their guns are bigger than yours, too.
ScatManDoo
01-07-22, 10:49
Or did you not notice Trump's first Bear Market Crash in 2018 and his second one in 2020?Make believe financial advisors need not be picky about such history.
So they defied your advice and sold out of the market when Trump took office and missed out on the gains in 2017 from the continuation of the historic upward Bull Market Run trajectory established and triggered by Obama and the Dems by their passage of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act passed in late February 2009 without a single Repub vote while Trump passed nothing until the last business day of that year 2017.
Then the year Trump's one and only significant economic "stimulus" legislation took effect, 2018, Trump had the first of his two Bear Market Crashes and it did not occur to you to advise them to buy back into the market at or near the bottom of either of them?
Sad. If you had advised them to do that they would have come out way ahead of just riding those two Trump Bear Market Crashes all the way down and back up again over the next four years. Well, the second one came back up again in historic fashion under Biden since a presidential term is only 4 years and not 5. But you know what I mean.
Or did you not notice Trump's first Bear Market Crash in 2018 and his second one in 2020?Most of my clients have been with me over 20 years. My job is to build wealth for them over a period of time so they can retire comfortably. In the world today to lead a decent lifestyle you need to have at least $2 million in retirement. In 20 years I only had 2 clients that bailed out of the market because of who was elected president. Most of my clients are smart enough. My one client was 62 years old had $2.5 million in the market and panic sold for $2.2 million. If he would not have panic sold he would have close to $4.5 million today after 5 years. His hate of Trump caused him about $3 million. There was never 2 Bear market crashes in last 10 years and you continuing to fabricate lies shows your lack of intelligence. No savvy investor invest for a year. Investors are long term with a 20 year plan or more. Most of my clients portfolios went up 68-84 percent over Trump presidency which is remarkable. Any investor would take that under any president. Savvy investors don't quit investing if there is a republican or democrat in office. They pay our firm to react and advise what to invest in. This year it was oil industry that paid biggest gains. Our firm knew Biden policies would drive up oil prices and we advised our clients to buy oil stocks that went up in 2021 34-84 percent. Just because we have an incompetent president it doesn't keen we can't make money in the market. You don't seem to know much about anything and all you seem capable of is attacking Trump or republicans.
USA added 199,000 jobs last month far less than the 450,000 expected causing market declines. Another day in the life of an incompetent president.
ScatManDoo
01-07-22, 18:01
"Madam Vice President, fellow Americans. To state the obvious, one year ago today, in this sacred place, democracy was attacked. Simply attacked. The will of the people was under assault. The Constitution, our constitution, faced the gravest of threats.
Outnumbered in the face of a brutal attack, Capitol Police, the DC Metropolitan Police Department, the National Guard and other brave law enforcement officials saved the rule of law.
Our democracy held. We the people endured. We the people prevailed.
For the first time in our history, a president had not just lost an election; he tried to prevent the peaceful transfer of power as a violent mob breached the Capitol. But they failed. They failed.
And on this day of remembrance we must make sure that such an attack never, ever happens again. I'm speaking to you today from Statuary Hall in the United States Capitol. This is where the House of Representatives met for 50 years in the decades leading up to the Civil War.
It is on this floor where a young congressman from Illinois, Abraham Lincoln, sat at desk 191. Above him above us over that door leading into the rotunda is a sculpture depicting Clio, the muse of history. In her hands, an open book in which she records the events taking place in this chamber below. Clio stood watch over this hall one year ago today, as she has for more than 200 years.
She recorded what took place. The real history. The real facts. The real truth. The facts and the truth that Vice President Harris just shared and that you and I and the whole world saw with our own eyes.
The Bible tells us that 'We shall know the truth and the truth shall make us free. ' We shall know the truth. Well, here is the God's truth about January 6, 2021.
Close your eyes. Go back to that day. What do you see? Rioters rampaging. Waving, for the first time inside this Capitol, the Confederate flag that symbolizes the cause to destroy America. To rip us apart.
Even during the Civil War that never, ever happened. But it happened here in 2021. What else do you see? The mob breaking windows, kicking in doors, breaching the Capitol. American flags on poles being used as weapons, as spears.
Fire extinguishers being thrown at the heads of police officers. A crowd that professes their love for law enforcement assaulted those police officers. Dragged them, sprayed them, stomped on them. Over 140 police officers were injured.
We all heard the police officers who were there that day testify to what happened. One officer called it "a medieval battle" and that he was more afraid that day than he was fighting the war in Iraq. They've repeatedly asked since that day, how dare anyone, anyone, diminish, belittle or deny the hell they were put through? We saw with our own eyes. Rioters menaced these halls, threatening life of the Speaker of the House, literally erecting gallows to hang the Vice President of the United States of America.
But what did we not see? We didn't see a former president who just rallied the mob to attack sitting in the private dining room of the Oval Office in the White House watching it all on television and doing nothing for hours.
Police were assaulted. Lives at risk. The nation's Capitol under siege. This wasn't a group of tourists. This was an armed insurrection. They weren't looking to uphold the will of the people; they were looking to deny the will of the people. They're weren't looking to uphold a free and fair election. They were looking to overturn one. Then weren't looking to save the cause of America. They were looking to subvert the Constitution.
This isn't about being bogged down past. It's about making sure the past isn't buried. That's the only way forward. That's what great nations do. They don't bury the truth; they face up to it. Sounds like hyperbole, but that's your truth. They face up to it.
We are a great nation. My fellow Americans, in life there's truth and tragically there are lies. Lies conceived and spread for profit and power. We must be absolutely clear about what is true and what is a lie. And here's the truth: The former president of the United States of America has created and spread a web of lies about the 2020 election.
'This is insane': Lawmakers relive Jan. 6 horror alongside fresh trauma of effort to rewrite history.
He's done so because he values power over principle, because he sees his own interest as more important than his country's interest, than America's interest. And because his bruised ego matters more to him than our democracy or our Constitution.
He can't accept he lost even though that's what 93 United States senators, his own attorney general, his own vice president, governors and state officials in every battleground state have all said: he lost.
That's what 81 million of you did as you voted for a new way forward. He's done what no president in American history, in the history of this country, has ever, ever done.
He refused to accept the results of an election and the will of the American people. While some courageous men and women in the Republican Party are standing against it, trying to uphold the principle of that party, too many others are transforming that party into something else. They seem no longer to want to be the party of Lincoln, Eisenhower, Reagan, the Bushes.
Well, whatever my other disagreements are with Republicans who support the rule of law, and not the rule of a single man, I will always seek to work together with them. To find shared solutions where possible. Because when we have a shared belief in democracy, then anything is possible. Anything.
So at this moment, we must decide: What kind of nation are we going to be?
Are we going to be a nation that accepts political violence as a norm? Are we going to be a nation where we allow partisan election officials to overturn the legally expressed will of the people? Are are going to be a nation that lives not by the light of the truth but in the shadow of lies? We cannot allow ourselves to be that kind of nation.
The way forward is to recognize the truth. To live by it. The "Big Lie" being told by the former president, and many Republicans who fear his wrath, is that the insurrection in this country actually took place on Election Day, November 3, 2020. Think about that. Is that what you thought? Is that what you thought when you voted that day? Taking part in an insurrection? Is that what you thought you were doing? Or did you think you were carrying out your highest duty as a citizen and voting?
The former presidents' supporters are trying to rewrite history. They want you to see election day is the day of insurrectionand the riots that took place here on January 6 as a true expression of the will of the people. Can you think of a more twisted way to look at this country, to look at America? I cannot.
Here's the truth. The election of 2020 was the greatest demonstration of democracy in the history of this country. More of you voted in that election than have ever voted in all of American history. Over 150 million Americans went to the polls and voted that day, in a pandemic, some at great risk to their lives. And they should be applauded, not attacked.
Right now, in state after state, new laws are being written not to protect the vote, but to deny it. Not only to suppress the vote, but to subvert it. Not to strengthen and protect our democracy, but because the former president lost instead of looking at the election results in 2020, and saying they need new ideas or better ideas to win more votes. The former president and his supporters have decided the only way for them to win is to suppress your vote and subvert our elections. It's wrong. It's undemocratic. And frankly, it's un-American.
The second "Big Lie" being told by the former president's supporters is that the results of the election of 2020 can't be trusted. The truth is that no election, no election in American history has been more closely scrutinized or more carefully counted.
Every legal challenge questioning the results in every court in this country that could have been made, was made and was rejected. Often rejected by Republican-appointed judges, including judges appointed by the former president himself. From state courts to the United States Supreme Court. Recounts were undertaken in state after state.
Georgia, Georgia counted its results three times, with one recount by hand. Phony partisan audits were undertaken long after the election in several states. None change the results.
In some of them, the irony is the margin of victory actually grew slightly. So let's speak plainly about what happened in 2020.
Even before the first ballot was cast, the former president was preemptively sowing doubt about the election results. He built his lie over months. It wasn't based in the facts. He was just looking for an excuse, a pretext to cover for the truth. He's not just a former president. He's a defeated former president.
Defeated by a margin of over 7 million of your votes. In a full and free and fair election. There is simply zero proof the election results are inaccurate. In fact, in every venue where evidence had to be produced, an oath to tell the truth had to be taken, the former president failed to make his case. Just think about this: The former president and his supporters have never been able to explain how they accept as accurate other election results that took place on November 3rd. Elections for governor, United States Senate, House of Representatives, elections in which they close the gap in the House.
They challenged none of that. The president's name was first. Then we went down the line. Governor, senators, House of Representatives, somehow those results are accurate on the same ballot. But the presidential race was flawed. And on the same ballot, same day, cast by the same voters. The only difference: the former president didn't lose those races. He just the lost the one that was his own.
Finally, the third "Big Lie being" told by a former president and his supporters is that the mob who sought to impose their will through violence are the nation's true patriots. Is that what you thought when you looked at the mob, ransacking the Capitol, destroying property, literally defecating in the hallways, rifling through the desks of senators and representatives, hunting down members of Congress? Patriots? Not in my view. To me, the true patriots are the more than 150 Americans who peacefully expressed their vote at the ballot box, the election workers for protecting the integrity of the vote and the heroes who defended this Capitol. You can't love your country only when you win, you can't obey the law only when it's convenient. You can't be patriotic when you embrace and enable lies.
Those who stormed this Capitol and those who instigated and incited and those who called on them to do so held a dagger at the throat of America and American democracy. They didn't come here out of patriotism or principle. They came here in rage. Not in service of America, rather in service of one man. Those who incited the mob, the real plotters who were desperate to deny the certification of this election, to defy the will of the voters. Their plot was foiled. Congress, Democrats, Republicans stayed. Senators, representatives, staff, they finished their work the Constitution demanded. They honored their oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Look folks, now it's up to all of us, we the people, to stand for the rule of law, to preserve the flame of democracy, to keep the promise of America alive. The promise is at risk, targeted by the forces that value brute strength over the sanctity of democracy, fear over hope, personal gain over public good. Make no mistake about it, we're living at an inflection point in history, both at home and abroad.
We're engaged anew in a struggle between democracy and autocracy, between the aspirations of the many and the greed of the few, between the people's right of self-determination and self-seeking autocrat. From China to Russia and beyond, they're betting that democracy's days are numbered. They actually told me democracy is too slow, too bogged down by division to succeed in today's rapidly changing complicated world. And they're betting, they're betting America will become more like them and less like us. They're betting America's a place for the autocrat, the dictator, the strong man. I do not believe that. That is not who we are. That is not who we have ever been. And that is not who we should ever ever be.
Our founding fathers, as imperfect as they were, set in motion an experiment that changed the world, literally changed the world. Here in America, the people would ruled. Power would be transferred peacefully, never at the tip of the spear or the barrel of a gun. They committed to paper an idea that they couldn't live up to, but an idea that couldn't be constrained.
Yes, in America, all people are created equal, and reject a view that if you succeed, I fail. If you get ahead, I fall behind. If I hold you down, I somehow lift myself up. The former president lies about this election and the mob that attacked this Capitol could not be further away from the core American values. They want to rule or they will ruin, ruin what our country fought for at Lexington and Concord, at Gettysburg and Omaha Beach, Seneca Falls, Selma, Alabama. What were we fighting for? The right to vote, the right to govern ourselves. The right to determine our own destiny. With rights come responsibilities, responsibility to see each other as neighbors. Maybe we disagree with that neighbor but they're not an adversary. The responsibility to accept defeat, then get back in the arena and try again the next time to make your case. Responsibility to see that America is an idea, an idea that requires vigilant stewardship.
As we stand here today, one year since January 6 2021, the lies that drove the anger and madness we saw in this place, they have not abated. So we have to be firm, resolute and unyielding in our defense of the right to vote and to have that vote counted.
Some of us made the ultimate sacrifice in this sacred effort. Jill and I mourned police officers in this Capitol Rotunda not once but twice in the wake of January 6th. Once to honor Officer Brian Sicknick, who lost his life the day after the attack and a second time to honor Officer Billy Evans, who lost his life defending this Capitol as well. Think about the others who lost their lives and everyone living with the trauma of that day. Those defending this Capitol, to members of Congress of both parties and their staffs, to reporters, cafeteria workers, custodial workers and their families. Don't kid yourself, the pain and scars from that day were deep. I've said it many times, and it's no more true or real, when we think about the events of January 6. We are in a battle for the soul of America. A battle, but by the grace of God, the goodness and greatness of this nation, we will win.
Believe me, I know how difficult democracy is, but I'm crystal clear about the threats America faces. I also know that our darkest days can lead to light and hope. From the death and destruction the vice president referenced at Pearl Harbor came the triumph over the forces of fascism. From the brutality of Bloody Sunday, the Edmund Pettus Bridge, came historic voting rights legislation. So now let's step up, write the next chapter in American history. For January 6 marks not the end of democracy but the beginning of a renaissance of liberty and fair play. I did not seek this fight brought to this Capital one year ago today. But I will not shrink from it either. I will stand in this breach. I will defend this nation, and I'll allow no one to place a dagger at the throat of democracy. We will make sure the will of the people is heard, that the ballot prevails, not violence, that authority of this nation will always be peacefully transferred. I believe the power of the presidency and the purpose is to unite this nation. Not divide it, to lift us up, not tear us apart. It's about us, not about me.
Deep in the heart of America burns a flame lit almost 250 years ago of liberty, freedom and equality. This is not a land of kings or dictators or autocrats. We're a nation of laws, of order, not chaos, of peace, not violence. Here in America, the people rule through the ballot, and their will prevails. So let us remember together. We're one nation, under God, indivisible, that today, tomorrow and forever at our best, we are the United States of America.
God bless you all. God protect our troops, and may God bless those who stand watch over democracy. ".
MarquisdeSade1
01-07-22, 19:09
The oligarchs are willing to plunge the nation into the civil war because they don't like the guy who fairly won an election, Donald J Trump!!
And nice touch counting the police and military as if they'll have anything to do with your lunatic brethren, LOL.
The oligarchs are the ones willing to plunge the nation into a civil war rigging elections.
Do you have any clue? Do you know what % of the police and military are Trump voters? Probably 99%?
Look up how many veterans were arrested J6? How many off duty police and FBI LOL.
The oligarchs are willing to plunge the nation into the civil war because they don't like the guy who fairly won an election, Donald J Trump!!
And nice touch counting the police and military as if they'll have anything to do with your lunatic brethren, LOL.
The oligarchs are the ones willing to plunge the nation into a civil war rigging elections.
Do you have any clue? Do you know what % of the police and military are Trump voters? Probably 99%?
Look up how many veterans were arrested J6? How many off duty police and FBI LOL.Possibly 99 percent of the police, firemen and military are republicans. I have a lot of respect for the people that put their lives in the line to keep all Americans safe. Speaking of civil war and destruction that is pretty much what the democrats are doing since all BLM, Antifa, criminals and all the looters and rioters are. I have no respect for these people but the democrats support them every day. In one hour of every day democrats will loot, assault, rape and kill more people in the USA than January 6 protest.
USA added 199,000 jobs last month far less than the 450,000 expected causing market declines. Another day in the life of an incompetent president.Thanks for posting this because fake news won't be reporting it.
MarquisdeSade1
01-08-22, 00:00
With a shady Chinese firm's money and almost definitely China's government oversight and control. Lolol.
https://texassignal.com/the-chinese-business-interests-behind-trumps-social-media-site/
Yep, Donald "Make sure I win" Trump, the proven Xi butt licker, strikes again!https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/jan-6-newsmax-tv-documentary/2022/01/04/id/1051048/
ScatManDoo
01-08-22, 00:16
USA added 199,000 jobs last month far less than the 450,000 expected causing market declines. Another day in the life of an incompetent president.Wasn't TrumpShit's average month an actual loss of more than 60,000 jobs per month? (The loser losing over 3 million jobs net over 48 months).
And that was only because TrumpShit received a robust growing economy from Barack Obama!
If gaining 199,000 jobs was the result of incompetence.
What shit was losing 60,000? Maybe TrumpShit?
The oligarchs are willing to plunge the nation into the civil warNah, I'm quite sure it was you.
I support full scale civil war.
Winner takes all!Quite succinct, actually.
MarquisdeSade1
01-08-22, 04:28
Nah, I'm quite sure it was you.
Quite succinct, actually.Yes I stand by those words, very bloody wars are started and fought over much less than over what is at stake when you destroy the integrity of presidential elections.
In response to their actions civil war is reasonable, after what they did in 2020 we are in a cold war, wait and see what happens if they do it again!
There won't be simple trespassing and broken windows, I heard Nutty Nancy is retiring soon, I'm guessing she can see what's coming she doesn't want to be around.
She and her husband can take all that insider trading money and go hide somewhere safe? I suggest Beijing.
https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/how-the-2020-election-was-rigged/
Most of my clients have been with me over 20 years. My job is to build wealth for them over a period of time so they can retire comfortably. In the world today to lead a decent lifestyle you need to have at least $2 million in retirement. In 20 years I only had 2 clients that bailed out of the market because of who was elected president. Most of my clients are smart enough. My one client was 62 years old had $2.5 million in the market and panic sold for $2.2 million. If he would not have panic sold he would have close to $4.5 million today after 5 years. His hate of Trump caused him about $3 million. There was never 2 Bear market crashes in last 10 years and you continuing to fabricate lies shows your lack of intelligence. No savvy investor invest for a year. Investors are long term with a 20 year plan or more. Most of my clients portfolios went up 68-84 percent over Trump presidency which is remarkable. Any investor would take that under any president. Savvy investors don't quit investing if there is a republican or democrat in office. They pay our firm to react and advise what to invest in. This year it was oil industry that paid biggest gains. Our firm knew Biden policies would drive up oil prices and we advised our clients to buy oil stocks that went up in 2021 34-84 percent. Just because we have an incompetent president it doesn't keen we can't make money in the market. You don't seem to know much about anything and all you seem capable of is attacking Trump or republicans.So you didn't notice the 2 Bear Market Crashes, a 20% decline or more in a broad market Index, in 2018 and 2020 under Trump or the 2 under GW Bush in 2021 and that biggie in 2008?
Were you in a coma during those 4 Bear Markets of the past 20 years? Well, ok GW Bush's first one began 21 years ago. But still. Only someone in a deep deep coma missed the one in 2008 under Bush, the one in 2018 and the one in 2020 under Trump.
And it sounds as if you did not make any effort to advise your 2 intelligent Trump hater clients to buy back into the market at or near the bottom of either of Trump's 2 Bear Market Crashes. Really? Well, I suppose if you never noticed the stock market fell squarely into 2 Bear Markets in just the past 4 years under Trump it's kinda hard to advise anyone what to do about it with their money.
Anyway, if those 2 clients of yours had bought back in at the bottoms of those 2 Trump Bear Market Crashes after getting out of the market in 2017 then they would have done better than just riding both of them down and up like a pointless rollercoaster. Certainly better than the 68% or whatever your other clients squeaked out after 4 or was it 5 years.
Oh, I don't mean they would have gotten the 235% gain Obama produced or the 264% gain Clinton produced for anyone doing nothing more than leaving their money in a no-brainer mutual fund tracking the S&P 500 Index or the Wilshire 5000 Total Market Index without paying so much as a dime to someone calling themselves a financial advisor. But better than what your more obedient clients gained.
Hey, if your two intelligent Trump-haters bought back into the market in early November 2020 on Biden's landslide election victory that means they benefitted from one of if not the greatest election-to-inauguration Bull Market Rally in history and on top of that the 28% gain we had in the year after Biden took office! That alone would probably have gotten them gains pretty close to what your other clients got in 4-5 years. Did they? Or have you not noticed yet?
MarquisdeSade1
01-08-22, 05:37
Exactly. There never was any CRT or organized Dem push to defund the police in Virginia or anywhere else.
The outcome in Virginia perfectly fits the way a Virginia gubernatorial election outcome has been since the beginning of the country and the way all but 1-2 post-presidential elections (including midterms) have gone since the end of WWII. Now, the Dem Murphy win did break a usual trend.
Youngkin's particular advantage was the typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media was able to promote lies about the Dems and convince suckers to get riled up to vote against boogie-men that don't exist in a more traditional manner without much interference from Trump, who Youngkin avoided like the plague (but with a wink, as you pointed out)
That is why I disapproved of Trump being banned from Twitter and Facebook. Dems have a much better chance and track record of overcoming the typical pro-Repub campaining and electioneering by Mainstream Media when Trump has a huge platform on which to to tweet tweet tweet his idiotic assertions, addle-brained proposals and America-hating lies far and wide forcing Repubs and Repub candidates everywhere to respond, comment, agree or disagree on a daily if not hourly basis.
I liken the muzzling and banning of Trump on those platforms to still another example of widespread media sources helping Repubs win elections.Any idea who she is?
https://www.newsmax.com/dralvedacking/crt-mcauliffe-youngkin/2022/01/06/id/1051355/
USA added 199,000 jobs last month far less than the 450,000 expected causing market declines. Another day in the life of an incompetent president.
Thanks for posting this because fake news won't be reporting it.FUX News Channel didn't report it? Oh, come on. I am sure they must have reported the 199,000 jobs report missed the 422,000 predictions.
Now, what they likely did not report was the reason that number came in below predictions is because the business groups that submit their numbers for the report were late due to Trump's Pandemic staff outs and delays. So expect the upward revisions over the next few weeks to add many, many thousands to this first report like they have done for essentially every one of these Jobs Reports under Biden during Trump's Pandemic. In fact, like the 150,000 or so jobs revised upward and added to previous months in this report.
And I doubt they reported the historic 1 year reduction in the Unemployment Rate down to 3.9% or the 4.7% increase in wages in this report, right?
CrowExplorer
01-08-22, 09:07
Possibly 99 percent of the police, firemen and military are republicans. I have a lot of respect for the people that put their lives in the line to keep all Americans safe. Speaking of civil war and destruction that is pretty much what the democrats are doing since all BLM, Antifa, criminals and all the looters and rioters are. I have no respect for these people but the democrats support them every day. In one hour of every day democrats will loot, assault, rape and kill more people in the USA than January 6 protest.Well said, Cali Guy! The BurnLootMurder protests, with the videos of innocent people being assaulted, and sometimes killed.
Along with all the other mayhem.
And the resulting deafening silence from my "friends" on social media who "care" so much.
Is what really showed me what virtue-signaling frauds my liberal "friends" actually were.
I realized that being a left winger is more about signaling your virtue than anything else.
I deleted all social media after the BLM riots.
MarquisdeSade1
01-08-22, 15:10
Former President Donald Trump fired back at President Joe Biden Thursday morning after Biden blamed him for the events of Jan. 6.
Trump issued his statements through his Save America PAC.
In his first response, Trump said:
Biden, who is destroying our Nation with insane policies of open Borders, corrupt Elections, disastrous energy policies, unconstitutional mandates, and devastating school closures, used my name today to try to further divide America. This political theater is all just a distraction for the fact Biden has completely and totally failed. Our Country no longer has Borders, has totally and completely lost control of Covid (record numbers! Is no longer Energy Independent, Inflation is rampant, our Military is in chaos, and our exit, or surrender, from Afghanistan was perhaps the most embarrassing day in the long and distinguished history of the United States—and so much more. Why is it that the Unselect Committee of totally partisan political hacks, whose judgment has long ago been made, not discussing the rigged Presidential Election of 2020? It's because they don't have the answers or justifications for what happened. They got away with something, and it is leading to our Country's destruction. They want all conversation concerning the Election "Canceled. " Just look at the numbers, they speak for themselves. They are not justifiable, so the complicit media just calls it the Big Lie, when in actuality the Big Lie was the Election itself.
The Democrats want to own this day of January 6th so they can stoke fears and divide America. I say, let them have it because America sees through theirs lies and polarizations.
In a follow-up statement issued later Thursday morning, Trump added:
Biden is working hard to try and deflect the incompetent job he is doing, and has done, on the horrible Afghanistan withdrawal (surrender), the Borders, COVID, Inflation, loss of Energy Independence, and much more. Everything he touches turns to failure. That's what you get when you have a rigged Election.
In another follow-up issued early Thursday afternoon, Trump continued to hammer away on his thee of the "rigged" presidential election, saying:
To watch Biden speaking is very hurtful to many people. They're the ones who tried to stop the peaceful transfer with a rigged election. Just look at the numbers. Does anybody really think that Biden beat Obama with the Black population in select Swing State cities, but nowhere else? That he would lose 18 out of 19 bellwether counties, and 27 out of 27 "toss up" House races, but somehow miraculously receive the most votes in American history with no coattails? That he would lose Florida, Ohio, and Iowa and win, even though it has never been done before?
They spread a "web of lies" about me and Russia for 4 years to try to overturn the 2016 election, and now they lie about how they interfered in the 2020 Election, too. Big Tech was used illegally.
Where did all those votes show up from in Georgia, where it was just revealed they sold ballots for $10 a piece, or in Pennsylvania, and Arizona, and Wisconsin. He acts like he's aggrieved, but we're the ones who were aggrieved and America is suffering because of it with poisonous Borders, record Inflation, a humiliating surrender in Afghanistan, $5 a gallon gas and higher, empty stock shelves, and rampant crime. America is a laughingstock stock of the world, and it's all because of the real insurrection, which took place on November 3rd, but this is an election year and MAGA Republicans should get elected and work with me to fix this horror that Joe Biden and the Democrats have brought us.
Never forget the crime of the 2020 Presidential Election. Never give up!
FUX News Channel didn't report it? Oh, come on. I am sure they must have reported the 199,000 jobs report missed the 422,000 predictions.
Now, what they likely did not report was the reason that number came in below predictions is because the business groups that submit their numbers for the report were late due to Trump's Pandemic staff outs and delays. So expect the upward revisions over the next few weeks to add many, many thousands to this first report like they have done for essentially every one of these Jobs Reports under Biden during Trump's Pandemic. In fact, like the 150,000 or so jobs revised upward and added to previous months in this report.
And I doubt they reported the historic 1 year reduction in the Unemployment Rate down to 3.9% or the 4.7% increase in wages in this report, right?Fox did report it but CNN probably avoided it. It seems to me that your posts and the posts from a couple other left wingers here appear to be taken only from liberal news or liberal sites on the computer. None of your posts actually indicate that you live in USA and are actually experiencing what is going on. Your posts are all so hateful against hard working people, police and the military. My guess is you and possibly a couple other socialists don't actually live in USA. Your posts suggest that you live in another country because you can't afford to retire in the USA.
How come FUX "News" and our resident cultists haven't reported this?
The US has added more jobs in the past 11 months than under the previous 4 Republican Presidents combined.
Biden: 6.2 million jobs added.
The former guy: 2 million jobs added.
Little Bush: 1.7 million jobs lost.
Big Bush: 1.7 million jobs added.
Ronnie: 138,000 jobs lost.
Any idea who she is?
https://www.newsmax.com/dralvedacking/crt-mcauliffe-youngkin/2022/01/06/id/1051355/No, I don't.
Apparently she is just some lazy slob who wrote an opinion piece where her twisted view of things is that anyone who craps out a kid should also decide what are and are not historical facts to be taught in taxpayer funded public schools and was kept awake at night in a delusional panic worrying about something that was never taught nor scheduled to be taught in Virginia's public schools.
I'm guessing a Repub.
In 2016,84% of the police planned to vote for dump. "These numbers may seem to be good news for Trump, and they are to a degree. He has 7% more support from the POLICE audience than Mitt Romney received in 2012. But his support tends to be almost as much about respondents' dislike for Clinton as it is about their affection for Trump. " https://www.policemag.com/342098/the-2016-police-presidential-poll.
In 2020, "The Military Times poll for this year saw a drop of 46 percent in 2017 to 38 percent in 2020, for active-duty personnel favoring a Republican candidate. " https://www.economist.com/united-states/2021/10/14/military-bases-swung-hard-away-from-republicans-in-2020.
High? Yes. 99%? Not even close. But feel free to counter with actual sources if you can.
How come FUX "News" and our resident cultists haven't reported this?
The US has added more jobs in the past 11 months than under the previous 4 Republican Presidents combined.
Biden: 6.2 million jobs added.
The former guy: 2 million jobs added.
Little Bush: 1.7 million jobs lost.
Big Bush: 1.7 million jobs added.
Ronnie: 138,000 jobs lost.During the pandemic restaurants, gym, stores and thousands of other small businesses were forced to shut down. Predominately more in democrat states. So now that these businesses are allowed to open in the last year and the people could finally go to work Biden is trying to take credit for creating 6.4 million jobs when in fact only 6.4 million of the 8 million have returned to their jobs. 2 million still have not returned because of handouts by the Biden administration. Biden did not create 6.4 million jobs. 6.4 million returned to their jobs. Biden needs 1.6 million more people to return to their jobs before he can get credit for creating 1 job. Typical left wing tactic to actually make it look like Biden did something. Proof is in the numbers. Biden is a joke and embarrassment worldwide and the White House he touting these farces.
Fox did report it but CNN probably avoided it. It seems to me that your posts and the posts from a couple other left wingers here appear to be taken only from liberal news or liberal sites on the computer. None of your posts actually indicate that you live in USA and are actually experiencing what is going on. Your posts are all so hateful against hard working people, police and the military. My guess is you and possibly a couple other socialists don't actually live in USA. Your posts suggest that you live in another country because you can't afford to retire in the USA.I agree that a some of these posts are probably coming from outside USA. Either communists or failure USA citizens that didn't put money away for retirement and can't afford to live on social security in the USA. Probably living in some shithole apartment in some shithole country. It totally makes sense since it seems all their posts are coming from surfing liberal fake news. They don't see the crime and border problems because they don't live here.
During the pandemic restaurants, gym, stores and thousands of other small businesses were forced to shut down. Predominately more in democrat states. So now that these businesses are allowed to open in the last year and the people could finally go to work Biden is trying to take credit for creating 6.4 million jobs when in fact only 6.4 million of the 8 million have returned to their jobs. 2 million still have not returned because of handouts by the Biden administration. Biden did not create 6.4 million jobs. 6.4 million returned to their jobs. Biden needs 1.6 million more people to return to their jobs before he can get credit for creating 1 job. Typical left wing tactic to actually make it look like Biden did something. Proof is in the numbers. Biden is a joke and embarrassment worldwide and the White House he touting these farces.Rightwingnuts crack me up. They claim that Biden is taking credit for jobs byt that the former guy didn't tout the great, expanding economy he inherited from Obama.
See'Mon. Guys, you can't have things both ways. Well, I guess you can try if you're a winger.
No, I don't.
Apparently she is just some lazy slob who wrote an opinion piece where her twisted view of things is that anyone who craps out a kid should also decide what are and are not historical facts to be taught in taxpayer funded public schools and was kept awake at night in a delusional panic worrying about something that was never taught nor scheduled to be taught in Virginia's public schools.
I'm guessing a Repub.Amazing that you assume only republicans and white people care about critical race theory and racism being taught. She along with her uncle Martin Luther King were obviously white and were obvious Trumpsters and racists according to your socialist view. I guess Martin Luther king had a twisted view of things too.
MarquisdeSade1
01-08-22, 21:27
No, I don't.
Apparently she is just some lazy slob who wrote an opinion piece where her twisted view of things is that anyone who craps out a kid should also decide what are and are not historical facts to be taught in taxpayer funded public schools and was kept awake at night in a delusional panic worrying about something that was never taught nor scheduled to be taught in Virginia's public schools.
I'm guessing a Repub.Dr. Alveda see. King is the daughter of the late slain civil rights activist Rev. A. the. King and the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Fox did report it but CNN probably avoided it. It seems to me that your posts and the posts from a couple other left wingers here appear to be taken only from liberal news or liberal sites on the computer. None of your posts actually indicate that you live in USA and are actually experiencing what is going on. Your posts are all so hateful against hard working people, police and the military. My guess is you and possibly a couple other socialists don't actually live in USA. Your posts suggest that you live in another country because you can't afford to retire in the USA.I can't be the one who is ill-informed about what is actually going on in the USA if I am the one who knows about and can actually cite the months all 4 of the Repub Bear Market Crashes happened in the past 20 years, well 21 years to catch GW Bush's first one, while two Wingers here who claim to know something about the USA economy, financial advice, the USA stock market and so on appear to know absolutely nothing about those Repub Bear Market Crashes, including the one that happened less than 2 years ago under Trump, his 2nd one in his four year, not 5 year term.
And if you suspect Biden's millions of newly recovered and created jobs at higher wages are just the same millions of jobs wiped out by Trump's horrific economic decisions and stewardship and so it is nothing for him to get credit for as you probably thought was the case for the jobs numbers accredited to FDR, JFK / LBJ, Carter, Clinton and Obama, here's the obvious fix for what ails you:
Stop voting for or allowing Repubs to weasel their Do Nothing, Great Depression / Recession, Massive USA Jobs Destroying asses in the White House or anywhere else where their always favorite economic philosophy and agenda will predictably Crash the USA economy and wipe out millions of jobs, leaving it to the next incoming Dem and only the next incoming Dem to swing into intelligent and effective action and legislation required to rescue the country from the disastrous results of your Repub idols.
Then the next incoming Dem historic economy-expanding, jobs-creating and stock market Bull Run hero won't have anything to rescue, recover and get credit for.
See how that works?
MarquisdeSade1
01-08-22, 23:48
Yes I stand by those words, very bloody wars are started and fought over much less than over what is at stake when you destroy the integrity of presidential elections.
In response to their actions civil war is reasonable, after what they did in 2020 we are in a cold war, wait and see what happens if they do it again!
There won't be simple trespassing and broken windows, I heard Nutty Nancy is retiring soon, I'm guessing she can see what's coming she doesn't want to be around.
She and her husband can take all that insider trading money and go hide somewhere safe? I suggest Beijing.
https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/how-the-2020-election-was-rigged/https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/nancy-pelosi-big-tech-stocks/2022/01/08/id/1051563/
I agree that a some of these posts are probably coming from outside USA. Either communists or failure USA citizens that didn't put money away for retirement and can't afford to live on social security in the USA. Probably living in some shithole apartment in some shithole country. It totally makes sense since it seems all their posts are coming from surfing liberal fake news. They don't see the crime and border problems because they don't live here.LOL. It would be very easy to figure out where I live now thanks to the historic stock market gains I enjoyed during the Obama and Clinton presidencies that, thankfully, were sufficient to offset the repeated Bear Market Crashes that America suffered under GW Bush and Trump. And without paying so much as a dime to anyone claiming to be a financial advisor. But it would require you to actually do a little research that would probably take a total computer / internet novice no more than 10 seconds to conclude.
Oh, and I live quite comfortably in my little part of pussy paradise and have for almost 10 years without even starting to collect my generous and well earned Social Security checks yet. Or, if you prefer, Socialist Security checks...[/QUOTE]Remember this?
Illegal immigration on Mexico border on pace for worst since 2007.
New surge comprised of migrant families and children, which are a much tougher population to combat
January 16,2019.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/feb/10/illegal-immigration-mexico-border-pace-worst-2007/?utm_source=GOOGLE&utm_medium=cpc&utm_id=chacka&utm_campaign=TWT+-+DSA.
Illegal immigration across the southwest border is on pace for the worst year since 2007 or the last time the country began a massive wall-building spree according to new Homeland Security numbers.
Four months into the fiscal year the Border Patrol nabbed nearly 201,500 people, compared to about 109,500 at the same point in the previous year. If that 84 percent surge holds, it works out to 733,000 immigrants crossing illegally for fiscal year 2019, which would be by far the highest numbers in more than a decade.
MarquisdeSade1
01-09-22, 01:16
In 2016,84% of the police planned to vote for dump. "These numbers may seem to be good news for Trump, and they are to a degree. He has 7% more support from the POLICE audience than Mitt Romney received in 2012. But his support tends to be almost as much about respondents' dislike for Clinton as it is about their affection for Trump. " https://www.policemag.com/342098/the-2016-police-presidential-poll.
In 2020, "The Military Times poll for this year saw a drop of 46 percent in 2017 to 38 percent in 2020, for active-duty personnel favoring a Republican candidate. " https://www.economist.com/united-states/2021/10/14/military-bases-swung-hard-away-from-republicans-in-2020.
High? Yes. 99%? Not even close. But feel free to counter with actual sources if you can.Firstly I wouldn't wipe my ass with the economist if I ran out of TP.
Secondly, the link requires membership, so you link a "source" that can't be read, bravo.
Thirdly you wrote the poll says "favors a repub"? For what dog catcher?
You didn't post Trump vs Biden.
With the military many ballots are absentee ballots, I would love to see the stats on the actual numbers.
38% for Trump LOL I don't believe it, I'm guessing 98-99.99%.
Yes I stand by those words, very bloody wars are started and fought over much less than over what is at stake when you destroy the integrity of presidential elections.So I can't help you about your delusions. Thank you, though, for admitting your desire to kill millions of your own compatriots for your idol's election loss. Very educational!
I agree that a some of these posts are probably coming from outside USA. Either communists or failure USA citizens that didn't put money away for retirement and can't afford to live on social security in the USA. Probably living in some shithole apartment in some shithole country. It totally makes sense since it seems all their posts are coming from surfing liberal fake news. They don't see the crime and border problems because they don't live here.Isn't that the same argument Canada loved to use a few months ago? That everyone who disagrees with right-wingers must be a poor, welfare-recipient, food-stamps loser living in some shithole apartment? Someone suggested some time ago that our California ex-democrat was one of Canada's multiple personalities. Looks more and more like it.
Amazing that you assume only republicans and white people care about critical race theory and racism being taught. She along with her uncle Martin Luther King were obviously white and were obvious Trumpsters and racists according to your socialist view. I guess Martin Luther king had a twisted view of things too.This wasn't the first time she wrote something ill-informed. You think I care who she was related to? GW Bush was the son of a USA VP and POTUS. Now he is the 2nd worst one of all time after Trump.
We know illegal Southwest border crossings into the USA were the highest under Trump by 2019, his 3rd year in office, since the previous Republican was a so-called potus. See my earlier post for a link to the report on that.
Then they broke all prior records beginning in Trump's final year in office, before Biden's 2020 landslide election victory and several months before Biden took office. See link below.
So we have to thank Joe and Kamala for doing a terrific job cleaning up Trump's mess on illegal border crossings along with all the other colossal Trump messes.
Trump:
CBP encounters highest monthly number of migrants attempting to cross border since 2000.
There were also a record number of unaccompanied minors at the border in July.
Aug. 3, 2021.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/cbp-encounters-highest-monthly-number-migrants-attempting-cross/story?id=79240996
Border crossings have been increasing, rising every month since October 2020. Last month, 188,829 migrants attempted to cross the border, according to CBP, reaching 210,000 encounters with individuals at the southern border in July. Joe and Kamala:
Border crossings decline again in October, with drop in families, children
Nov. 16,2021.
https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2021/11/16/border-crossings-decline-again-in-october
The number of people encountered along the southwest border in October dropped for the third month in a row, U.S. Customs and Border Protection announced Monday, after a record year of attempted crossings.
The number of people encountered along the southwest border in October dropped for the third month in a row, U.S. Customs and Border Protection announced Monday
Two-thirds of people encountered at the border were single adults, CBP said, while far fewer families and unaccompanied children were counted
More than 1.7 million people tried to the cross the U.S.-Mexico border in 2021, a record high that peaked in July and has declined since.
DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas testified on Tuesday at an oversight hearing that even migrants processed into the U.S. at the border are priorities for removal.
Rightwingnuts crack me up. They claim that Biden is taking credit for jobs byt that the former guy didn't tout the great, expanding economy he inherited from Obama.
See'Mon. Guys, you can't have things both ways. Well, I guess you can try if you're a winger.Obama did not help the creation of jobs as he put hundreds of stupid regulations for small businesses and major corporations. No real jobs were created. Jobs were created when Trump removed these regulations. Only 6. 4 million jobs of the the 8 million jobs that were lost when democrats shut business down in their states have been recovered. Biden has created zero. Yes zero jobs and 1. 6 million more people need to take jobs just to get to Trump pre pandemic jobs numbers. Unfortunately Biden thinks like Obama so job creation is very slow. One year later no new jobs by Biden and December jobs numbers were horrible. Facts are facts even if you don't like them.
ScatManDoo
01-09-22, 19:58
We know illegal Southwest border crossings into the USA were the highest under Trump by 2019, his 3rd year in office, since the previous Republican was a so-called potus. See my earlier post for a link to the report on that.
Then they broke all prior records beginning in Trump's final year in office, before Biden's 2020 landslide election victory and several months before Biden took office.I thought the Trump administration decision to treat illegal immigrants inhumanly (like putting immigrant children in cages) was supposed to discourage and reduce illegal immigration?
You mean that thoughtless treatment was not working?
The TrumpShit's administration kept that failure secret?
Axel Heyst
01-09-22, 21:51
I am getting tired of the Marxist propaganda that is regularly posted on this thread by party apparatchiks. See the attached file for the truth.
So why are the American Marxists (the Democratic Party) in favor of an open border? The answer is now clear: up to one million illegal aliens living in New York City will have access to the ballot box after NY Mayor Eric Adams (D) on Sunday approved legislation by the city council to automatically become law.
Elvis 2008
01-10-22, 01:57
In another follow-up issued early Thursday afternoon, Trump continued to hammer away on his thee of the "rigged" presidential election, saying:
To watch Biden speaking is very hurtful to many people. They're the ones who tried to stop the peaceful transfer with a rigged election. Just look at the numbers. Does anybody really think that Biden beat Obama with the Black population in select Swing State cities, but nowhere else? That he would lose 18 out of 19 bellwether counties, and 27 out of 27 "toss up" House races, but somehow miraculously receive the most votes in American history with no coattails? That he would lose Florida, Ohio, and Iowa and win, even though it has never been done before?
They spread a "web of lies" about me and Russia for 4 years to try to overturn the 2016 election, and now they lie about how they interfered in the 2020 Election, too. Big Tech was used illegally.Yeah, there is no evidence that the election was rigged but there was circumstantial evidence galore. That $10 ballot deal was uncovered by a citizen's group, and it was the same shit we saw in Michigan deleted video / data that should not have been deleted and unmanned ballot boxes. What is amazing to me is how many people were complicit in it. First off, 85% of the video in Georgia was deleted. Still the video that was there showed 242 cars going to the same ballot boxes between midnight and 5 AM and dumping thousands and thousands of ballots off. The Secretary of State in Georgia insisted on a person who would admit to what was going on and they found him. He admitted to delivering 4500 ballots off and collecting $45,000.
So this is the same pattern we have seen before. Russiagate and Ukrainegate were all designed to get Trump out so he could not serve as president even after he won the election. 1-6 gate was so he could not run again. If anybody had ever questioned who was running this country, the president or the swamp, they got their answer.
It would be interesting to see how far up the totem pole this goes, but you can be sure the DDOJ, Democratic department of Justice, will not pursue it. They are too busy going after those parents who want a say in their kid's education, those damned white supremacist terrorists!
I am actually glad Trump lost. He can regroup and get his people in and get rid of some of these swamp rats like Fauci, Francis Collins, and most of the FBI. That fucker Fauci is such an arrogant bastard he said if you disagree with me, you disagree with science.
I am getting tired of the Marxist propaganda that is regularly posted on this thread by party apparatchiks. See the attached file for the truth.
So why are the American Marxists (the Democratic Party) in favor of an open border? The answer is now clear: up to one million illegal aliens living in New York City will have access to the ballot box after NY Mayor Eric Adams (D) on Sunday approved legislation by the city council to automatically become law.Exactly right. Next it will be California letting 2,000,000 illegals vote. That is why the democrats keep ignoring the border crises. The democrats panicked when Trump had the border under control Biden immediately reversed Trump policies and millions of illegals started pouring in.
I thought the Trump administration decision to treat illegal immigrants inhumanly (like putting immigrant children in cages) was supposed to discourage and reduce illegal immigration?
You mean that thoughtless treatment was not working?
The TrumpShit's administration kept that failure secret?Please check the facts. Cages were installed during the Obama presidency. Obama was the first president to put illegal children in cages. Trump policy kept them in Mexico.
I see Trump's Pandemic supply chain destruction has triggered record high inflation in the Euro Zone at record highs during their economic recovery the same way it has during the historic Biden / Dem economic recovery in the USA:
Euro zone inflation hits 5%, marking another record high
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/euro-zone-inflation-hits-5-marking-another-record-high-2022-01-07/
Energy prices, up 26% compared to a year earlier, remained the main driver but the increases for food, services and imported goods were also all well above the ECB's overall 2% inflation target, data from Eurostat showed on Friday.
...
Adding to the upward pressure, supply-chain bottlenecks curtailed the availability of consumer products, while households, forced into saving their cash for a year, started spending on everything from new cars to restaurant meals.
Most of these inflation drivers are temporary, so price pressures should ease eventually.Trump's characteristic Repub disastrous economic decisions in 2018 and all throughout 2020 produced unprecedented long term deadly and economy destroying ripple effects throughout the world, not just in the USA.
Elections have consequences.
I am getting tired of the Marxist propaganda that is regularly posted on this thread by party apparatchiks. See the attached file for the truth.
So why are the American Marxists (the Democratic Party) in favor of an open border? The answer is now clear: up to one million illegal aliens living in New York City will have access to the ballot box after NY Mayor Eric Adams (D) on Sunday approved legislation by the city council to automatically become law.You need to include the link for that photo. If we enlarge it and zoom in to read it as a screenshot it becomes too blurry to read. But in the blur it appears to be showing illegal immigration "encounters", which includes arrests and deportations of illegal immigrants and border crossings, increasing dramatically during Obama's presidency.
We know that, of course. Well, those of us who keep up with real news know it.
ScatManDoo
01-10-22, 05:08
Obama did not help the creation of jobs as he put hundreds of stupid regulations for small businesses and major corporations.Let, me give this foreigner some help.
Good structure of sentences in English.
Require that your intended sentences contain verbs.
MarquisdeSade1
01-10-22, 05:50
I am getting tired of the Marxist propaganda that is regularly posted on this thread by party apparatchiks. See the attached file for the truth.
So why are the American Marxists (the Democratic Party) in favor of an open border? The answer is now clear: up to one million illegal aliens living in New York City will have access to the ballot box after NY Mayor Eric Adams (D) on Sunday approved legislation by the city council to automatically become law.https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/09/what-makes-riots-conspiracies-cabals-and-insurrections-good-or-bad/
MarquisdeSade1
01-10-22, 05:52
I thought the Trump administration decision to treat illegal immigrants inhumanly (like putting immigrant children in cages) was supposed to discourage and reduce illegal immigration?
You mean that thoughtless treatment was not working?
The TrumpShit's administration kept that failure secret?https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/26/fact-check-obama-administration-built-migrant-cages-meme-true/3413683001/
Built by Obama / Biden.
Yeah, there is no evidence that the election was rigged but there was circumstantial evidence galore. That $10 ballot deal was uncovered by a citizen's group, and it was the same shit we saw in Michigan deleted video / data that should not have been deleted and unmanned ballot boxes. What is amazing to me is how many people were complicit in it. First off, 85% of the video in Georgia was deleted. Still the video that was there showed 242 cars going to the same ballot boxes between midnight and 5 AM and dumping thousands and thousands of ballots off. The Secretary of State in Georgia insisted on a person who would admit to what was going on and they found him. He admitted to delivering 4500 ballots off and collecting $45,000.
So this is the same pattern we have seen before. Russiagate and Ukrainegate were all designed to get Trump out so he could not serve as president even after he won the election. 1-6 gate was so he could not run again. If anybody had ever questioned who was running this country, the president or the swamp, they got their answer.
It would be interesting to see how far up the totem pole this goes, but you can be sure the DDOJ, Democratic department of Justice, will not pursue it. They are too busy going after those parents who want a say in their kid's education, those damned white supremacist terrorists!
I am actually glad Trump lost. He can regroup and get his people in and get rid of some of these swamp rats like Fauci, Francis Collins, and most of the FBI. That fucker Fauci is such an arrogant bastard he said if you disagree with me, you disagree with science.Great factual post. Democrats are concerned about next election being fair so now they are starting to push to get illegals to vote. New York being the first state to allow 800,000 illegals to vote for the party that wants open borders. Does anyone know of any other country that wants open borders?
Please check the facts. Cages were installed during the Obama presidency. Obama was the first president to put illegal children in cages. Trump policy kept them in Mexico.https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/26/viral-image/viral-image-migrant-cages-2019-not-obama-years/
Former President Barack Obama was photoshopped into an image of overcrowded migrant detention facilities in summer 2019 not during his administration.
The Obama administration did hold immigrants in chain-link enclosures described as cages at border processing facilities. It did not have a policy to separate children from their families, as the Trump administration did.
I see Trump's Pandemic supply chain destruction has triggered record high inflation in the Euro Zone at record highs during their economic recovery the same way it has during the historic Biden / Dem economic recovery in the USA:
Euro zone inflation hits 5%, marking another record high
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/euro-zone-inflation-hits-5-marking-another-record-high-2022-01-07/
Trump's characteristic Repub disastrous economic decisions in 2018 and all throughout 2020 produced unprecedented long term deadly and economy destroying ripple effects throughout the world, not just in the USA.
Elections have consequences.Elections do have consequences and now all the people that voted for Biden are paying the price. No plan to solve previous virus even though he had 3 vaccines and now he has started the Biden virus. Crises at the border. Highest inflation in 4 decades crippling the poor. If only we could go back to 2018 when Trump was president. Biden is making Trump look like the smartest guy in the world and we know he isn't. The only one possibly dumber than Biden is the ones that are actually trying to defend his failing policies.
And what about the stock market that the socialists were bragging about last week. Why is the market down if Biden economy is working? Why have only 6.4 million of the 8 million workers who were let go during pandemic in democrats states who shut down all the small businesses? Why hasn't Biden created even 1 new job? Inflation has only been this high in 5 decades when we had the 2 worst presidents in history Carter and Biden. Why are the fools still blaming Trump for Biden failed policies? Obviously there are a few people on this site who protect Biden policies because they want to see the USA fail.
Let, me give this foreigner some help.
Good structure of sentences in English.
Require that your intended sentences contain verbs.At least you were smart enough to acknowledge that I was right about Obama.
Yeah, there is no evidence that the election was rigged but there was circumstantial evidence galore. That $10 ballot deal was uncovered by a citizen's group, and it was the same shit we saw in Michigan deleted video / data that should not have been deleted and unmanned ballot boxes. What is amazing to me is how many people were complicit in it. First off, 85% of the video in Georgia was deleted. Still the video that was there showed 242 cars going to the same ballot boxes between midnight and 5 AM and dumping thousands and thousands of ballots off. The Secretary of State in Georgia insisted on a person who would admit to what was going on and they found him. He admitted to delivering 4500 ballots off and collecting $45,000.
So this is the same pattern we have seen before. Russiagate and Ukrainegate were all designed to get Trump out so he could not serve as president even after he won the election. 1-6 gate was so he could not run again. If anybody had ever questioned who was running this country, the president or the swamp, they got their answer.
It would be interesting to see how far up the totem pole this goes, but you can be sure the DDOJ, Democratic department of Justice, will not pursue it. They are too busy going after those parents who want a say in their kid's education, those damned white supremacist terrorists!.Courts accept circumstantial evidence all the time. In fact, it is often more reliable and can be better corroborated and substantiated than eye witness testimony.
Team Trump's attorneys didn't present any credible circumstantial evidence because they didn't have any. They didn't have any to present because there isn't any.
They were laughed out of court even by Trump appointed judges.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/26/fact-check-obama-administration-built-migrant-cages-meme-true/3413683001/
Built by Obama / Biden.To temporarily contain illegal immigrants, not to cage children after being separated from their parents as was Trump's official policy.
You can't arrest and deport as many illegal immigrants as Obama-Biden did, reducing illegal border crossings to 40+ year lows and undocumented immigrants by millions without building more holding cells to detain them.
The US Undocumented Population Fell Sharply During the Obama Era: Estimates for 2016
https://cmsny.org/publications/warren-undocumented-2016/
The undocumented population was 10.8 million in 2016, the lowest level since 2003.
The number of US undocumented residents from Mexico fell by almost one million between 2010 and 2016.CNN Fact Check: Illegal border crossings at lowest levels in 40 years
https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/13/politics/fact-check-immigration/index.html
But Obama-Biden didn't build those holding cells to keep children in them indefinitely after being separated from their parents. They didn't do that.
Trump did, as a matter of his official policy. And then his policies broke high illegal border crossing records at least twice.
MarquisdeSade1
01-10-22, 17:57
Yeah, there is no evidence that the election was rigged but there was circumstantial evidence galore. That $10 ballot deal was uncovered by a citizen's group, and it was the same shit we saw in Michigan deleted video / data that should not have been deleted and unmanned ballot boxes. What is amazing to me is how many people were complicit in it. First off, 85% of the video in Georgia was deleted. Still the video that was there showed 242 cars going to the same ballot boxes between midnight and 5 AM and dumping thousands and thousands of ballots off. The Secretary of State in Georgia insisted on a person who would admit to what was going on and they found him. He admitted to delivering 4500 ballots off and collecting $45,000.
So this is the same pattern we have seen before. Russiagate and Ukrainegate were all designed to get Trump out so he could not serve as president even after he won the election. 1-6 gate was so he could not run again. If anybody had ever questioned who was running this country, the president or the swamp, they got their answer.
It would be interesting to see how far up the totem pole this goes, but you can be sure the DDOJ, Democratic department of Justice, will not pursue it. They are too busy going after those parents who want a say in their kid's education, those damned white supremacist terrorists!.https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/05/who-are-the-real-insurrectionists/
Elections do have consequences and now all the people that voted for Biden are paying the price. No plan to solve previous virus even though he had 3 vaccines and now he has started the Biden virus. Crises at the border. Highest inflation in 4 decades crippling the poor. If only we could go back to 2018 when Trump was president. Biden is making Trump look like the smartest guy in the world and we know he isn't. The only one possibly dumber than Biden is the ones that are actually trying to defend his failing policies.
And what about the stock market that the socialists were bragging about last week. Why is the market down if Biden economy is working? Why have only 6.4 million of the 8 million workers who were let go during pandemic in democrats states who shut down all the small businesses? Why hasn't Biden created even 1 new job? Inflation has only been this high in 5 decades when we had the 2 worst presidents in history Carter and Biden. Why are the fools still blaming Trump for Biden failed policies? Obviously there are a few people on this site who protect Biden policies because they want to see the USA fail.The S&P 500 Index is down about 4. 5% from its all time record high under Biden and you see that as a sign that Biden's historic record high USA jobs creating and 5%+ real GDP growth economy is a failure?
Oh, sorry, I forgot you're paying big bucks to a couple of self-described "financial advisors" from big bucks firms who apparently think the "DOW" is the financial industry standard measure for the stock market.
Ok, the DOW is current down about 3.5% from its all time record high under Biden.
Have either of those big bucks firm "financial advisors" ever mentioned that sometimes stock market investors take single digit profits out of the market after it hits all time record highs to, you know, buy stuff?
Don't tell anybody, but that turns out to be good for the economy too.
MarquisdeSade1
01-10-22, 18:46
Courts accept circumstantial evidence all the time. In fact, it is often more reliable and can be better corroborated and substantiated than eye witness testimony.
Team Trump's attorneys didn't present any credible circumstantial evidence because they didn't have any. They didn't have any to present because there isn't any.
They were laughed out of court even by Trump appointed judges.When I see your posts I think of Bob!
Elvis 2008
01-10-22, 19:07
Great factual post. Democrats are concerned about next election being fair so now they are starting to push to get illegals to vote. New York being the first state to allow 800,000 illegals to vote for the party that wants open borders. Does anyone know of any other country that wants open borders?They had to pass that law because illegals were already voting or more like getting paid to vote.
My understanding of what is happening now is that the Republicans are watching the polls like crazy now and if there is any funny business, they go to a judge right then. This way you are not asking a judge to overturn an election result but making a decision to invalidate a ballot or ballots before the results are even known.
Did you notice how the Democratic here were mum on this story of someone illegally harvesting ballots? There is no outrage about that or that 85% of the video was destroyed just that there was no credible circumstantial evidence.
GWB won the 2000 election, but these Democratic douches went on and on about how the Supreme Court handed GWB the election. That and this election showed me that Democratic douches have zero interest in the integrity of elections. All they care about is if their guy wins. It is setting the USA up to be a banana republic.
Obama did not help the creation of jobs as he put hundreds of stupid regulations for small businesses and major corporations. No real jobs were created. Jobs were created when Trump removed these regulations. Only 6. 4 million jobs of the the 8 million jobs that were lost when democrats shut business down in their states have been recovered. Biden has created zero. Yes zero jobs and 1. 6 million more people need to take jobs just to get to Trump pre pandemic jobs numbers. Unfortunately Biden thinks like Obama so job creation is very slow. One year later no new jobs by Biden and December jobs numbers were horrible. Facts are facts even if you don't like them.Figure 2 in the attached article (from the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco) says that you are being untruthful. As usual. But what do they know? https://www.frbsf.org/economic-research/publications/economic-letter/2021/november/comparing-pandemic-unemployment-to-past-us-recoveries/.
Great factual post. Democrats are concerned about next election being fair so now they are starting to push to get illegals to vote. New York being the first state to allow 800,000 illegals to vote for the party that wants open borders. Does anyone know of any other country that wants open borders?Who cares if an undocumented immigrant gets to vote for dog catcher!
Please provide sources that say that NY will allow undocumented immigrants to vote in Federal elections.
https://news.yahoo.com/swing-state-trumpers-forged-letters-145502210.html
Swing State Trumpers Forged Letters to National Archives in Harebrained Scheme to Overturn Election.
Forrest Gump was correct: "Stupid is as stupid does."
"Many Americans don't fear a potential slide into authoritarianism because they have no basis for doing so. Our oceans and hegemony have coddled us; we take democracy for granted. But democracy and the rule of law are not the normal state of governments, certainly not historically.
Authoritarianism wouldn't happen overnight, but authoritarian regimes have shown us a road map. Here's a picture of what it would look like here.
If Trump and his enablers get their way, how you experience your life would depend on whether you identified — and were identified — as a Trump Republican.
Identified as a Trump Republican by your bumper sticker, you would be more likely to get a warning instead of speeding ticket. You would gain the inside track for government jobs, grants, and needed permits. Decisions about government benefits, like unemployment and disability, would be more likely to go your way. Your children would be more likely to win scholarships and admission to their chosen schools. You would get more favorable loan and mortgage treatment and better access to scarce goods, the best tickets.
Regulations would be interpreted in your favor, or maybe just ignored. You could rely on the criminal justice and judicial systems to go easy on you, if not help you out.
If, instead, you were perceived as a Democrat, or just an insufficiently Trump Republican, you would experience the reverse of what's above. Tax auditors would focus on you. You would be more likely to be hassled by police, even jailed if you were too troublesome. Nasty graffiti might appear on your business or home. You would be accused of being un-American, a traitor. You would learn to keep your head down and be careful about what you said to whom.
Science would be interpreted or even suppressed to suit Trump Republican needs. History would be whitewashed to celebrate the regime and its version of events. School curricula and texts would similarly conform.
LBGTQ folks would closet themselves again. Fewer women would lead in government, business, or society. People who want to marginalize and discriminate against people of color, non-Christians, and immigrants would find cover to do so. Abortion and birth control would be illegal. Public education would wither as religious schools claimed more and more public funding. Air and water quality would suffer. Climate change would go unaddressed. The military could be used to put down dissent.
Again, not all of this would happen instantly, and we can't predict how far the Trump Republicans would go. But this is the path that they are on.
So if you are a Trump Republican, perhaps all this sounds great. Finally, justice for my many grievances. Maybe that's the country in which you want to live.
I hope and pray that the great majority of Americans will reject it.
They had to pass that law because illegals were already voting or more like getting paid to vote.
My understanding of what is happening now is that the Republicans are watching the polls like crazy now and if there is any funny business, they go to a judge right then. This way you are not asking a judge to overturn an election result but making a decision to invalidate a ballot or ballots before the results are even known.
Did you notice how the Democratic here were mum on this story of someone illegally harvesting ballots? There is no outrage about that or that 85% of the video was destroyed just that there was no credible circumstantial evidence.
GWB won the 2000 election, but these Democratic douches went on and on about how the Supreme Court handed GWB the election. That and this election showed me that Democratic douches have zero interest in the integrity of elections. All they care about is if their guy wins. It is setting the USA up to be a banana republic.Your understanding of it is several decades late.
Republicans have always been present and allowed to sit at the tables, watch and monitor the voting process in virtually every polling place in the country since longer than anyone alive to read this has been voting.
"Many Americans don't fear a potential slide into authoritarianism because they have no basis for doing so. Our oceans and hegemony have coddled us; we take democracy for granted. But democracy and the rule of law are not the normal state of governments, certainly not historically.
Authoritarianism wouldn't happen overnight, but authoritarian regimes have shown us a road map. Here's a picture of what it would look like here.
If Trump and his enablers get their way, how you experience your life would depend on whether you identified and were identified as a Trump Republican..And, of course, there would be nothing but Great Trump Republican Crashes, Depressions / Recessions and Massive Jobs Destruction all along the way.
Hell, I could almost accept the pretend democracy and Repub style freedumb outlined in your post if Repubs were just as likely to produce as many positive economic results and as often as Dems.
But since at least 100 years of irrefutable evidence and data show Repubs are utterly incapable of producing even one Dem-like boom time economy and can only produce the significant and worse downturns, I just don't see a single solitary reason any patriotic American who wants the best and not the worst for the country so much as flirting with the possible outcome in your post.
Your understanding of it is several decades late.
Republicans have always been present and allowed to sit at the tables, watch and monitor the voting process in virtually every polling place in the country since longer than anyone alive to read this has been voting.Wrong again. Arizona plus a couple other states counted their votes after hours when no republicans were present.
And, of course, there would be nothing but Great Trump Republican Crashes, Depressions / Recessions and Massive Jobs Destruction all along the way.
Hell, I could almost accept the pretend democracy and Repub style freedumb outlined in your post if Repubs were just as likely to produce as many positive economic results and as often as Dems.
But since at least 100 years of irrefutable evidence and data show Repubs are utterly incapable of producing even one Dem-like boom time economy and can only produce the significant and worse downturns, I just don't see a single solitary reason any patriotic American who wants the best and not the worst for the country so much as flirting with the possible outcome in your post.I will take my 70 percent gain on my portfolio on the make believe crash of Trumps 4 year presidency every day of my life. I hope Biden crash does half that well.
Most Americans will take the great economies of Reagan and Trump rather the the failures and inflation of Carter and Biden. No contest. The republicans, independents and the smart democrats agree with me. The dumb democrats and socialists will try to refute it.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/we-have-gone-backwards-covid-confusion-snarls-biden-white-house/ar-AASDUum
They had to pass that law because illegals were already voting or more like getting paid to vote.
My understanding of what is happening now is that the Republicans are watching the polls like crazy now and if there is any funny business, they go to a judge right then. This way you are not asking a judge to overturn an election result but making a decision to invalidate a ballot or ballots before the results are even known.
Did you notice how the Democratic here were mum on this story of someone illegally harvesting ballots? There is no outrage about that or that 85% of the video was destroyed just that there was no credible circumstantial evidence.
GWB won the 2000 election, but these Democratic douches went on and on about how the Supreme Court handed GWB the election. That and this election showed me that Democratic douches have zero interest in the integrity of elections. All they care about is if their guy wins. It is setting the USA up to be a banana republic.The "illegally harvesting ballots" think is an accusation. You know, like when someone says "hey, this happened" and then the authorities investigate. The Georgia Secretary of State is investigating. Get back to us when he has some actual charges to bring. Personally, this smells to high heaven. This ballot harvesting accusation just came up? A year after the supposed incident? This guy and his mother just now got around to thinking it was wrong? C'Mon. Remember that the former guy filed 60-some-odd lawsuits of voter fraud and all of them were rejected because they contained accusations but no proof. In other words, all sizzle but no steak.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/we-have-gone-backwards-covid-confusion-snarls-biden-white-house/ar-AASDUumBiden virus is out of control and we have no testing kits. Biden is clueless.
The S&P 500 Index is down about 4. 5% from its all time record high under Biden and you see that as a sign that Biden's historic record high USA jobs creating and 5%+ real GDP growth economy is a failure?
Oh, sorry, I forgot you're paying big bucks to a couple of self-described "financial advisors" from big bucks firms who apparently think the "DOW" is the financial industry standard measure for the stock market.
Ok, the DOW is current down about 3.5% from its all time record high under Biden.
Have either of those big bucks firm "financial advisors" ever mentioned that sometimes stock market investors take single digit profits out of the market after it hits all time record highs to, you know, buy stuff?
Don't tell anybody, but that turns out to be good for the economy too.Obviously you are not in the stock market and one of many Americans that did not prosper from the steady gains in the market over the last 25 years. I realize you think exactly like my two clients that bailed out of the market when Trump was elected president. Fortunately you are the one paying the price.
I will take my 70 percent gain on my portfolio on the make believe crash of Trumps 4 year presidency every day of my life. I hope Biden crash does half that well.
Most Americans will take the great economies of Reagan and Trump rather the the failures and inflation of Carter and Biden. No contest. The republicans, independents and the smart democrats agree with me. The dumb democrats and socialists will try to refute it.No, the data and actual history of results refute it.
BTW, wasn't that supposed 68% or so that you're now calling "70%" based on a 5 year return in the DOW?
So which Dem year did you have to add to Trump's 4 year term to achieve that result? Was it Obama's final year, Biden's first year or a little of both?
Obviously you are not in the stock market and one of many Americans that did not prosper from the steady gains in the market over the last 25 years. I realize you think exactly like my two clients that bailed out of the market when Trump was elected president. Fortunately you are the one paying the price.Comparing the most recent all time closing high for both the DOW and the Wall Street and financial industry standard reference measure, the S&P 500 Index, to where it is right now or any given close is extremely easy to do.
The percentages I quoted were accurate when I wrote them. And as of this writing, those percentages off the all time closing high are even smaller.
Wrong again. Arizona plus a couple other states counted their votes after hours when no republicans were present.Why not? Was it way past Repub beddy time?
Nobody forbade registered Repubs from being present for or participating in any voting or ballot counting process in any state for any election.
Biden virus is out of control and we have no testing kits. Biden is clueless.LOL. It's hilarious to watch Repub Senators whose Repub base is dying at multiple times Dems from Trump's Pandemic virus railing against Biden's Trump's Pandemic response team at the Senate hearings, especially with regard to test shortages, after every Repub in Congress voted to defund every federal response to Trump's Pandemic when Biden's American Rescue Plan was passed without a single Repub vote for it or so much as demanding funds be increased anywhere in it.
That's where the funding for all the tests and distribution of tests came from.
It's reminiscent of the phony Repub outrage over non existent Dem "defunding the police" after Repubs and only Repubs in the House voted unanimously to defund the police! LOL.
No, the data and actual history of results refute it.
BTW, wasn't that supposed 68% or so that you're now calling "70%" based on a 5 year return in the DOW?
So which Dem year did you have to add to Trump's 4 year term to achieve that result? Was it Obama's final year, Biden's first year or a little of both?I will try to explain the stock market to people who totally do not understand or totally don't invest in the market. All indexes were up in the USA market an average of 68 percent during the Trump presidency. That does not mean that my portfolio goes up 68 percent as I don't own every stock in the market and a portion of my portfolio is in tax free bonds. I only own about 200 individual stocks of which about 50 percent of them pay dividends from. 3 to 7 percent. My portfolio went up 70 per cent on stock price increases, dividends and interest in the 4 years Trump was president. This was my biggest gain under any president in the last 40 years. I know you can't relate to this because you do not invest in the market as your posts indicate. It doesn't matter what happened in the past. In retrospect I never had a loss in any 4 years of any presidency in last 40 years but obviously some are better than others. I like many savvy investors made huge returns under Biden when he tried to kill the oil and gas industry, created a shortage and crude and natural gas doubled in price in one year. This is the reason you pay good financial advisors. I do not ever complain paying a 25 percent commission every year for 4 years to make 68 percent. You get what you pay for.
ScatManDoo
01-11-22, 23:31
When asked about Jim Jordan's recent announcement that he would not cooperate with the January 6th committee, Representative Adam Schiff said: "I have to say, I'm not hat surprised by it. He said he 'had nothing to hide', and then he decided 'Well, I guess I have a lot to hide'.
Jordan's weaseling days after the January 6th violent insurrection with reporters whether and when he spoke to TrumpShit is pure video comedy.
What is not funny, was his aiding and abetting in his University's coverup of sexual abuse in the wrestling program when he was a coach.
I will try to explain the stock market to people who totally do not understand or totally don't invest in the market. All indexes were up in the USA market an average of 68 percent during the Trump presidency. That does not mean that my portfolio goes up 68 percent as I don't own every stock in the market and a portion of my portfolio is in tax free bonds. I only own about 200 individual stocks of which about 50 percent of them pay dividends from. 3 to 7 percent. My portfolio went up 70 per cent on stock price increases, dividends and interest in the 4 years Trump was president. This was my biggest gain under any president in the last 40 years. I know you can't relate to this because you do not invest in the market as your posts indicate. It doesn't matter what happened in the past. In retrospect I never had a loss in any 4 years of any presidency in last 40 years but obviously some are better than others. I like many savvy investors made huge returns under Biden when he tried to kill the oil and gas industry, created a shortage and crude and natural gas doubled in price in one year. This is the reason you pay good financial advisors. I do not ever complain paying a 25 percent commission every year for 4 years to make 68 percent. You get what you pay for.Holy crap! You paid those scammers a 25% commission on a 68% gain in the stock market? And that 68% - 70% was your biggest gain under any president in 40 years?
So you missed out on the 235% gain in the broad USA Stock market under Obama and the 264% gain under Clinton.
Man, that is pathetic. Seriously, you need to have those con artists charging you 25% commissions arrested, not merely fired.
Ok, I'm going to give you the best stock market investment advice anyone has apparently given you in 40 years. And I won't charge you anything for it; open an account at Vanguard. The expense ratios for all of their funds range from 0.10% to 0.60%. Yes, you read that right. Less than 1%! Not 25%. To anyone!
The Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund, VTSAX, will cost you no more than about.
0.40% per year to maintain and service it. You don't need to pay a commission to a broker, a self-described "financial advisor", a priest or anyone else other than that. And you will never get robbed of 25% by any con man or thief.
Had you been in that simple, no-brainer, extremely low cost, low tax, beautifully diversified Index Fund over the past 40 years you would have gained all but about 0.40% of those 235% and 264% Dem presidency gains and kept a hell of a lot more of that middling 68% - 70% under Trump.
You're welcome.
Oh, and before you have the scammers who have been steamrolling you for the past 40 years fired and arrested, let them know that as of today's close the industry standard reference S&P 500 Index is only off about 2.3% from its all time closing high and the amusing but far less useful for that measure DOW is only off about 1.85%.
Not that they are in the business to know or care about such things. Their only challenge is to locate suckers happy and eager to pay 25% commissions for godknowswhat nonsense they're peddling you. I assume they troll those Trump MAGA rallies for their most likely marks.
MarquisdeSade1
01-12-22, 01:27
Wrong again. Arizona plus a couple other states counted their votes after hours when no republicans were present.https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/10/the-sinking-ship-of-the-democratic-media-alliance/
This is the reason you pay good financial advisors. I do not ever complain paying a 25 percent commission every year for 4 years to make 68 percent. You get what you pay for.You are saying you paid a 25% commission every year for 4 years and netted a 68% return over the 4 years? Where in the world do you pay a 25% commission annually? People who actually invest pick mutual funds or ETFs and pay 1% (sometimes a tiny bit more or a little less). Index funds (like Fidelity's Admiral Fund charge something like 0. 10% Even with professional investment advisors 25% commissions don't exist and only someone making it would make that claim.
MarquisdeSade1
01-12-22, 02:57
Who cares if an undocumented immigrant gets to vote for dog catcher!
Please provide sources that say that NY will allow undocumented immigrants to vote in Federal elections.Funny how well you anti American loony leftists parrot what you hear, I wrote dog catcher here 3 days ago and within less than 48 hrs someone else.
Picked it up and used it, I'm guessing this is what all of you do, watch Msnbc and memorize what is said for the day.
And repeat the talking points verbatim, like a good lamb would do.
And try to turn ISG into an echo chamber for are maddow et al from Msnbc LOL.
LOL. It's hilarious to watch Repub Senators whose Repub base is dying at multiple times Dems from Trump's Pandemic virus railing against Biden's Trump's Pandemic response team at the Senate hearings, especially with regard to test shortages, after every Repub in Congress voted to defund every federal response to Trump's Pandemic when Biden's American Rescue Plan was passed without a single Repub vote for it or so much as demanding funds be increased anywhere in it.
That's where the funding for all the tests and distribution of tests came from.
It's reminiscent of the phony Repub outrage over non existent Dem "defunding the police" after Repubs and only Repubs in the House voted unanimously to defund the police! LOL.What's your point? Biden's virus management plans working or not?
CrowExplorer
01-12-22, 09:49
I will take my 70 percent gain on my portfolio on the make believe crash of Trumps 4 year presidency every day of my life. I hope Biden crash does half that well.
Most Americans will take the great economies of Reagan and Trump rather the the failures and inflation of Carter and Biden. No contest. The republicans, independents and the smart democrats agree with me. The dumb democrats and socialists will try to refute it.Very well put!
Holy crap! You paid those scammers a 25% commission on a 68% gain in the stock market? And that 68% - 70% was your biggest gain under any president in 40 years?
So you missed out on the 235% gain in the broad USA Stock market under Obama and the 264% gain under Clinton.
Man, that is pathetic. Seriously, you need to have those con artists charging you 25% commissions arrested, not merely fired.
Ok, I'm going to give you the best stock market investment advice anyone has apparently given you in 40 years. And I won't charge you anything for it; open an account at Vanguard. The expense ratios for all of their funds range from 0.10% to 0.60%. Yes, you read that right. Less than 1%! Not 25%. To anyone!
The Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund, VTSAX, will cost you no more than about..It is 0.25 per cent not 25 per cent. Most people pay about 1 per cent. You obviously don't know anything about fees in the market. And my portfolio gain is 70 per cent after fees during the Trump presidency which is higher than in any other presidency.
ScatManDoo
01-12-22, 16:21
Funny how well you anti American loony leftists parrot what you hear, I wrote dog catcher here 3 days ago and within less than 48 hrs someone else.
Picked it up and used it, I'm guessing this is what all of you do, watch Msnbc and memorize what is said for the day.
And repeat the talking points verbatim, like a good lamb would do.
And try to turn ISG into an echo chamber for are maddow et al from Msnbc LOL.In other words.
He has no complaints or point.
You are saying you paid a 25% commission every year for 4 years and netted a 68% return over the 4 years? Where in the world do you pay a 25% commission annually? People who actually invest pick mutual funds or ETFs and pay 1% (sometimes a tiny bit more or a little less). Index funds (like Fidelity's Admiral Fund charge something like 0. 10% Even with professional investment advisors 25% commissions don't exist and only someone making it would make that claim.I know, I know! Unbelievable, right?
That Canada dude was robbed, reamed and abandoned by investment sharks worse than anyone I have heard or read about since Bernie Madoff. I assume they are also the ones who convinced him he ought to be proud of that 70% gain in those 4 Trump years, how thrilled any investor would be to do so well and all that typical con artist pitch. LOL.
What could those 200 stocks they bamboozled him into buying possibly be if 70% was the best return he ever got during a presidency in the past 40 years? Has to be of companies thrown together by their brother-in-law and almost certainly paying those sharks hefty kick-backs for putting their sucker clients into them. Oh well. There are many such stories because there are many such suckers.
A blind-folded chimp throwing 200 darts at a list of stocks in the S&P 500 would have earned better gains on them just during each of the 264% gain Clinton and 235% gain Obama presidencies in the past 29 years.
And that chimp would have done it for a banana, not robbing him of 25% commissions from the apparently relatively paltry gains he made during those historic Dem president Bull Runs!
Investors dumb enough to pay 3-7% commissions when they don't even have to in order to do very well in the market are laughable. But 25%! That isn't even funny. It's criminal.
Yeah, I started with Fidelity in 1986 with the fantastic 401 k offered by the Fortune 500 company I worked for, thanks to Jimmy Carter insisting it be included in his 1978 budget to require companies to offer that amazingly rewarding tax deferred investment tool to every employee and not just to the top management.
Thanks, Jimmy.
And then I rolled it over into an IRA with Vanguard when I retired about 20 years later in my 50's, flush and ready to travel and fuck 4-5 different young Thai girls every week for my second half.
Again, thanks, Jimmy, Bill and Barack. Coming up strong so far, Joe.
No thanks whatsoever to Ronnie, George1, George2 and Donnie, of course.
What's your point? Biden's virus management plans working or not?Of course they are working to keep any American smart enough to take the vaccines Biden made free and available to them from getting seriously ill, requiring hospitalization or dying from Trump's Pandemic virus in all its variations.
Any and all tests we have for now are thanks to Biden and every Dem who voted Yes on the American Rescue Plan. All shortages are to be blamed on the Repubs who didn't even bother to participate, didn't support a greater number of them be included in the bill and didn't bother to earn their pay for a change.
It is 0.25 per cent not 25 per cent. Most people pay about 1 per cent. You obviously don't know anything about fees in the market. And my portfolio gain is 70 per cent after fees during the Trump presidency which is higher than in any other presidency.You were the one who said 25%. So either you lied when you said it or you can't proofread and didn't bother to correct what you said.
Which one is it?
You were the one who said 25%. So either you lied when you said it or you can't proofread and didn't bother to correct what you said.
Which one is it?Typo but everyone knows that fees aren't 25.
I know, I know! Unbelievable, right?
That Canada dude was robbed, reamed and abandoned by investment sharks worse than anyone I have heard or read about since Bernie Madoff. I assume they are also the ones who convinced him he ought to be proud of that 70% gain in those 4 Trump years, how thrilled any investor would be to do so well and all that typical con artist pitch. LOL.
What could those 200 stocks they bamboozled him into buying possibly be if 70% was the best return he ever got during a presidency in the past 40 years? Has to be of companies thrown together by their brother-in-law and almost certainly paying those sharks hefty kick-backs for putting their sucker clients into them. Oh well. There are many such stories because there are many such suckers.
A blind-folded chimp throwing 200 darts at a list of stocks in the S&P 500 would have earned better gains on them just during each of the 264% gain Clinton and 235% gain Obama presidencies in the past 29 years..Portfolio gains are always after fees but obviously you didn't know that because your only source of income is government subsistence. If Jimmy Carter years we're your best years I know exactly why you can't afford to live in USA. I would bet that my 5 year old grandson has more invested in market than you.
What's your point? Biden's virus management plans working or not?Absolutely not! He is totally lost on what needs to be done.
It is 0.25 per cent not 25 per cent. Most people pay about 1 per cent. You obviously don't know anything about fees in the market. And my portfolio gain is 70 per cent after fees during the Trump presidency which is higher than in any other presidency.Most people indeed pay 0. 5-1% of AUM (if that's the scheme you're talking about), but it seems you're not one of them.
This is the reason you pay good financial advisors. I do not ever complain paying a 25 percent commission every year for 4 years to make 68 percent. You get what you pay for.And one thing I do know "about fees in the market" is that only the king of suckers would pay his financial advisor a 25% commission.
You are saying you paid a 25% commission every year for 4 years and netted a 68% return over the 4 years? Where in the world do you pay a 25% commission annually? People who actually invest pick mutual funds or ETFs and pay 1% (sometimes a tiny bit more or a little less). Index funds (like Fidelity's Admiral Fund charge something like 0. 10% Even with professional investment advisors 25% commissions don't exist and only someone making it would make that claim.You are exactly right. It is a typo. I pay. 25 percent commissions. I would not ever invest more than 5 or 10 per cent in mutual funds or ETF. Most of my portfolio is invested in managed funds with great managers.
MarquisdeSade1
01-13-22, 01:36
In other words.
He has no complaints or point.https://www.newsmax.com/politics/joebiden-jobapproval-quinnipiacpoll/2022/01/12/id/1052154/
Portfolio gains are always after fees but obviously you didn't know that because your only source of income is government subsistence. If Jimmy Carter years we're your best years I know exactly why you can't afford to live in USA. I would bet that my 5 year old grandson has more invested in market than you.I am not receiving any government checks, not even my Social Security checks. I have been pleasantly and pleasurably retired in Thailand for almost 10 years entirely on my investment incomes and a pension from a USA company I was with for 25 years.
No, my greatest stock market returns per presidency were during those 264% gain Clinton years and 235% gain Obama years while your way overpaid even at 0.25% commission financial advisors were telling you how proud and thrilled you should be to have only gained something significantly less than 70%.
The Carter years were not my best stock market return years because I wasn't in the market during Carter's presidency. But Carter was the one who required companies to offer all of their rank and file employees one of the greatest tax deferred stock market investment and retirement planning instruments of all time, the 401 k, instead of only blessing their top management executives with that offer.
That alone was a greater "tax cut" and pro retirement advantage for the ordinary working American than any Repub ever produced or ever will produce.
Oh, and so many jobs were being created under Carter, I should mention those were the years I could pick and choose companies to work for, salaries to consider, future prospects in each plum company to calculate.
That sure as hell was no longer the case after Reagan took over, got his way and promptly plunged us into his Great Repub Recession with 10%+ unemployment rates for 10 consecutive months beginning in his 2nd year in office and extending into his 3rd year!
BTW, I notice no Wingers have mentioned or linked a report on the lastest inflation number yet. And I know why. LOL. It seems every headline on how high the number is also mentions it is the highest "since 1982". That means it was higher in 1982 or from the year before.
Hmm. I forget. Who was president in 1982 and had been for at least a year by then, just as Biden is today? LOL. Yes, higher inflation than today and crap jobs creation results and skyrocketing unemployment rates and a Great Repub Recession in the works and the start of his tripling of the national debt with absolutely nothing to show for it. That was the reality of the Reagan economy.
Typo but everyone knows that fees aren't 25.So, you didn't bother to proofread or correct your error. But what is worse is that you don't have the cojones to admit it. Just like Cheeto McBonespurs.
"Everybody knows" is the line that wingers use when they found out something yesterday or don't have proof of anything.
As in, "Everybody knows" that windmills cause cancer.
Or as in, "Everybody knows" that Chinese thermostats changed votes.
Or as in, "Everybody knows" that injecting bleach cures COVID.
MarquisdeSade1
01-13-22, 06:12
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/joebiden-jobapproval-quinnipiacpoll/2022/01/12/id/1052154/https://cloudflarepoc.newsmax.com/newsfront/biden-voting-rights-abrams/2022/01/11/id/1051976/
I am not receiving any government checks, not even my Social Security checks. I have been pleasantly and pleasurably retired in Thailand for almost 10 years entirely on my investment incomes and a pension from a USA company I was with for 25 years.
No, my greatest stock market returns per presidency were during those 264% gain Clinton years and 235% gain Obama years while your way overpaid even at 0.25% commission financial advisors were telling you how proud and thrilled you should be to have only gained something significantly less than 70%.
The Carter years were not my best stock market return years because I wasn't in the market during Carter's presidency. But Carter was the one who required companies to offer all of their rank and file employees one of the greatest tax deferred stock market investment and retirement planning instruments of all time, the 401 k, instead of only blessing their top management executives with that offer.
That alone was a greater "tax cut" and pro retirement advantage for the ordinary working American than any Repub ever produced or ever will produce..If you are lying about the Carter years then probably your whole post is a lie. Everyone knows Carter was the worst president ever until this year when Biden took the title. If you haven't lived in USA in last 10 years you obviously are only making your posts off fake news.
I am not receiving any government checks, not even my Social Security checks. I have been pleasantly and pleasurably retired in Thailand for almost 10 years entirely on my investment incomes and a pension from a USA company I was with for 25 years.You must be lying. Everyone who disagrees with Canada and right-wingers in general is a destitute welfare recipient whose only source of income is government subsistence. It's common knowledge.
Of course, thanks to the 4 dismal years of Trump, more Americans are now disagree rather than agree with Canada et al, but who's counting, LOL?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/06/24/more-americans-now-socially-liberal-than-conservative-for-first-time-poll-finds
You must be lying. Everyone who disagrees with Canada and right-wingers in general is a destitute welfare recipient whose only source of income is government subsistence. It's common knowledge.
Of course, thanks to the 4 dismal years of Trump, more Americans are now disagree rather than agree with Canada et al, but who's counting, LOL?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/06/24/more-americans-now-socially-liberal-than-conservative-for-first-time-poll-findsNot everyone but I think I am right about you and a couple others on this site. 70% of Americans are blaming Biden policies for record inflation. Front page of our liberal newspaper today is half page article about Biden inflation worst inflation in 40 years. Every article on the internet says worst inflation in 49 years. Since Carter presidency. Any yet you and others keep lying about it and post articles that Trump was worse. If the 4 years under Trump was dismal for you then 2021 was a disaster for you. On the economy and inflation now 70% think Biden is doing a bad job. Don't you think that will affect the next election? Under Carter inflation reached as high as 14% and interest rates were 18%. The only way to slow inflation is to raise interest rates and the feds will do it now but how much are they going to have to raise them to stop this runaway inflation. And yes the poor do suffer more when gas is $4 a gallon and groceries are unaffordable.
So, you didn't bother to proofread or correct your error. But what is worse is that you don't have the cojones to admit it. Just like Cheeto McBonespurs.
"Everybody knows" is the line that wingers use when they found out something yesterday or don't have proof of anything.
As in, "Everybody knows" that windmills cause cancer.
Or as in, "Everybody knows" that Chinese thermostats changed votes.
Or as in, "Everybody knows" that injecting bleach cures COVID.I didn't proof read it and I corrected it. Your posts make no sense.
Windmills don't cause cancer they kill thousands of birds.
Making outlandish statements doesn't make you look smarter.
If you are lying about the Carter years then probably your whole post is a lie. Everyone knows Carter was the worst president ever until this year when Biden took the title. If you haven't lived in USA in last 10 years you obviously are only making your posts off fake news.Yes, "If".
But since I did not lie about Carter, Reagan, the Bushes, Clinton, Obama, Trump, Biden, any other presidents, their parties or their economies, you can rest assured I did not lie about anything else in my posts.
Now, what is difficult to believe is that somebody had money in as many as 200 stocks during the Clinton and Obama presidencies, paying 2 firms to guide him in his picks, asset allocation, etc yet still managed to underperform the broad USA stock market so badly he only squeezed out significantly less than 70% total return out of those 264% and 235% gain presidencies.
You have boasted about the killing you made during Biden's first year as POTUS on oil stocks while the broad USA stock market as measured by the industry standard S&P 500 Index gained an easy 28% not counting dividends. Serious question; by "killing", does that mean you saw a gain of about 5% or 6% last year?
Not everyone but I think I am right about you and a couple others on this site. 70% of Americans are blaming Biden policies for record inflation. Front page of our liberal newspaper today is half page article about Biden inflation worst inflation in 40 years. Every article on the internet says worst inflation in 49 years. Since Carter presidency. Any yet you and others keep lying about it and post articles that Trump was worse. If the 4 years under Trump was dismal for you then 2021 was a disaster for you. On the economy and inflation now 70% think Biden is doing a bad job. Don't you think that will affect the next election? Under Carter inflation reached as high as 14% and interest rates were 18%. The only way to slow inflation is to raise interest rates and the feds will do it now but how much are they going to have to raise them to stop this runaway inflation. And yes the poor do suffer more when gas is $4 a gallon and groceries are unaffordable..Every report I've seen on the inflation report says it's the highest level "since 1982".
Inflation reaches highest level since 1982 as consumer prices jump 7% in 2021
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/9178235002
Carter wasn't president in 1982. Reagan was and had been for a year, just like Biden now.
And the thing is, the inflation rate was the best factor in the Reagan economy of 1982 because at least it was steadily declining, thanks solely to Carter and the Fed Chairman he appointed in Q4 1979 to do exactly that and nothing whatsoever to do with anything Reagan did.
What had everything to do with Reagan's favorite Repub economic policies in 1982, his 2nd year in office, was the unemployment rate that was I'm steady decline into the 7% range when he took office was just beginning to skyrocket into ten consecutive months of double digits stretching well into his 3rd year in office, his Great Reagan / Repub Recession, then the worst economic downturn since the Great Repub Depression of the late 1920's / early 1930's was just beginning and he was making the usual Repub moves to add massive amounts to the national debt and deficit trying to spend his way out of the mess he made of everything with nothing to show for it.
https://cloudflarepoc.newsmax.com/newsfront/biden-voting-rights-abrams/2022/01/11/id/1051976/Yet, the consensus of polls still shows Biden is viewed more favorably than your Dear Cult Leader:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/other/FavorabilityRatingsPoliticalLeaders.html
Interesting, huh?
Yes, "If".
But since I did not lie about Carter, Reagan, the Bushes, Clinton, Obama, Trump, Biden, any other presidents, their parties or their economies, you can rest assured I did not lie about anything else in my posts.
Now, what is difficult to believe is that somebody had money in as many as 200 stocks during the Clinton and Obama presidencies, paying 2 firms to guide him in his picks, asset allocation, etc yet still managed to underperform the broad USA stock market so badly he only squeezed out significantly less than 70% total return out of those 264% and 235% gain presidencies.
You have boasted about the killing you made during Biden's first year as POTUS on oil stocks while the broad USA stock market as measured by the industry standard S&P 500 Index gained an easy 28% not counting dividends. Serious question; by "killing", does that mean you saw a gain of about 5% or 6% last year?My oil stocks increased about 50% on average. My Berkshire stock went up about 40% and the balance of my other dicks went up about 17%. My one share of Berkshire is up to $483,000 thanks to his generous donations to Biden. I did well in Clinton years but I didn't have as much invested then. With Clinton being a lame duck president and republicans holding the house and senate, it forced to Clinton to join the republicans on passing legislation. Worked well. Clinton was smart. The one thing I know is that I did better this year than you did in all your years of investing. Satisfaction in that.
Not everyone but I think I am right about you and a couple others on this site. 70% of Americans are blaming Biden policies for record inflation. Front page of our liberal newspaper today is half page article about Biden inflation worst inflation in 40 years. Every article on the internet says worst inflation in 49 years. Since Carter presidency. Any yet you and others keep lying about it and post articles that Trump was worse.Somehow, I'm not surprised you've either overpaid your financial advisor to the tune of at least 2,500% or have an attention span of a 5-year old.
Carter wasn't President 40 years ago. Reagan was -- a Republican.
Carter wasn't President 49 years ago. Nixon was -- a Republican.
I have no idea where you pull your "49 years" from, but it's not important. What important is that with every new illiterate "argument" you keep shooting yourself in the foot.
I don't know how you can still walk around treating your feet the way you do.
Of course they are working to keep any American smart enough to take the vaccines Biden made free and available to them from getting seriously ill, requiring hospitalization or dying from Trump's Pandemic virus in all its variations.
Any and all tests we have for now are thanks to Biden and every Dem who voted Yes on the American Rescue Plan. All shortages are to be blamed on the Repubs who didn't even bother to participate, didn't support a greater number of them be included in the bill and didn't bother to earn their pay for a change.I love your arguments, we must select Biden for next term as well, not election needed.
MarquisdeSade1
01-14-22, 05:50
Yet, the consensus of polls still shows Biden is viewed more favorably than your Dear Cult Leader:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/other/FavorabilityRatingsPoliticalLeaders.html
Interesting, huh?They say when you're in a hole you should stop digging wowwwwwwwwww.
He is so done.
I'm not a republican or democrat, I don't hate Joe Biden.
But I believe he just proved he is the worst president ever, even worse than Barry Hussein.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-reaches-break-point-georgia-speech-voting-rights-senate-mcconnell-division-election-law-11642110521
Lets hear what you've got.
The only thing he could do to make matters worse is drop dead and leave that turd for us.
They say when you're in a hole you should stop digging wowwwwwwwwww.
He is so done.
I'm not a republican or democrat, I don't hate Joe Biden.
But I believe he just proved he is the worst president ever, even worse than Barry Hussein.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-reaches-break-point-georgia-speech-voting-rights-senate-mcconnell-division-election-law-11642110521
Lets hear what you've got.
The only thing he could do to make matters worse is drop dead and leave that turd for us.What have I got in addition to Biden's record high jobs numbers for a first presidential year, 3 times more than the total of the three previous Repub presidents combined, that must be 1,000 times more than your Dear Cult Leader created in 4 long years, passing more meaningful positive economic legislation so far than any Repub, perhaps ever?
You're a big believer in polls now. Browse around RealClearPolitics and see what the consensus of polls is showing. Individual polls tell us little. A consensus of polls tells us more.
Bear in mind, the RCP consensus of polls is ok, but they do lean heavily on including Rasmussen multiple times, which always over-samples dimwit Repubs. Oh, and for at least a year the growing number of self-described Independents has tended to lean more pro-Dem and the percentage of people self-identifying as Repubs has dwindled. So any poll that chooses roughly an equal number of Dem, Independent and Repub respondents will be way over-sampling the shrinking number of Repub leaners anyway.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
Here's the short hand version if you're too busy to browse:
Biden's Job Approval / Favorability Ratings are the highest of any group or leader of that group at the federal level. Higher than Trump's Favorability Rating now. Back when Trump pretended to have a job in the federal government, Biden's Job Approval Rating is higher than Trump's was for his entire 1st year in office and higher than it was when he got his ass kicked out of the White House.
Biden's are higher than the Repub and Dem leadership in the House and Senate, higher than either house of Congress.
I suppose Ron DeSantis is the next likely Repub candidate for potus after Trump. Last Job Approval Rating I could find for him among Floridians showed his Job Approval Rating sank 14-15 points from mid 2021 to 48% by September. At that rate his current Job Approval Rating might be lower than Biden's as well. Don't know because there has been no polling on him since September.
See, with Trump's Pandemic still raging in all its variants among Trump's base, his supply chain destruction still punishing worldwide economies and crippling international travel for fun, pleasure and business, making life difficult for so many, most poll respondents tend to just hate everyone.
But they hate Joe Biden least of all among the usual suspects.
They say when you're in a hole you should stop digging wowwwwwwwwww.
He is so done.
I'm not a republican or democrat, I don't hate Joe Biden.
But I believe he just proved he is the worst president ever, even worse than Barry Hussein.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-reaches-break-point-georgia-speech-voting-rights-senate-mcconnell-division-election-law-11642110521
Lets hear what you've got.
The only thing he could do to make matters worse is drop dead and leave that turd for us.You are so right! I don't know if any of you got to see Biden speech totally but he is a total disaster. Clueless. Saying the same things over and over with no solutions in sight.
What have I got in addition to Biden's record high jobs numbers for a first presidential year, 3 times more than the total of the three previous Repub presidents combined, that must be 1,000 times more than your Dear Cult Leader created in 4 long years, passing more meaningful positive economic legislation so far than any Repub, perhaps ever?
You're a big believer in polls now. Browse around RealClearPolitics and see what the consensus of polls is showing. Individual polls tell us little. A consensus of polls tells us more.
Bear in mind, the RCP consensus of polls is ok, but they do lean heavily on including Rasmussen multiple times, which always over-samples dimwit Repubs. Oh, and for at least a year the growing number of self-described Independents has tended to lean more pro-Dem and the percentage of people self-identifying as Repubs has dwindled. So any poll that chooses roughly an equal number of Dem, Independent and Repub respondents will be way over-sampling the shrinking number of Repub leaners anyway.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
Here's the short hand version if you're too busy to browse:.Since you don't live in USA and only watch fake news and totally can't comprehend how incompetent Biden is we will just disregard your posts. If we want to get wrong information we will just watch CNN for 15 minutes. CNN and you are so fixated on Trump you just can't leave his name out of it. CNN mentioned Trump 3 times more than they mentioned inflation last month. Just like CNN you are jealous of the fact that Trump did so well and Biden is so bad. Biden ratings are in the tank. He is a disaster for America. It doesn't matter what other presidents in history have done. We are in trouble. You can live in a third world country and ignore the facts but quit posting your nonsense.
My oil stocks increased about 50% on average. My Berkshire stock went up about 40% and the balance of my other dicks went up about 17%. My one share of Berkshire is up to $483,000 thanks to his generous donations to Biden. I did well in Clinton years but I didn't have as much invested then. With Clinton being a lame duck president and republicans holding the house and senate, it forced to Clinton to join the republicans on passing legislation. Worked well. Clinton was smart. The one thing I know is that I did better this year than you did in all your years of investing. Satisfaction in that.Agreed. If you had invested in oil industry and Warren Buffet companies last year it would have been a great year for you. The market outlook doesn't look so good for 2022 though. With Biden's record inflation the feds are going have to make some drastic changes.
What have I got in addition to Biden's record high jobs numbers for a first presidential year, 3 times more than the total of the three previous Repub presidents combined, that must be 1,000 times more than your Dear Cult Leader created in 4 long years, passing more meaningful positive economic legislation so far than any Repub, perhaps ever?
You're a big believer in polls now. Browse around RealClearPolitics and see what the consensus of polls is showing. Individual polls tell us little. A consensus of polls tells us more.
Bear in mind, the RCP consensus of polls is ok, but they do lean heavily on including Rasmussen multiple times, which always over-samples dimwit Repubs. Oh, and for at least a year the growing number of self-described Independents has tended to lean more pro-Dem and the percentage of people self-identifying as Repubs has dwindled. So any poll that chooses roughly an equal number of Dem, Independent and Repub respondents will be way over-sampling the shrinking number of Repub leaners anyway.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
Here's the short hand version if you're too busy to browse:.Please explain and supply documents of the supposed jobs Biden created. Please provide which policies he got approved by congress to create this jobs and in which sector these jobs were created. As for actual facts Biden hasn't gotten virtual nothing passe3 d through congress. Maybe I missed it but all reports still show no new jobs created by Biden only people returning to old jobs.
China virus is under control with 3 Trump vaccines. Biden Virus is out of control with no vaccine for it and limited testing kits available in USA. If anyone mishandled the China Virus and Biden virus it was Biden. And his polling numbers prove it.
Elvis 2008
01-14-22, 22:23
What have I got in addition to Biden's record high jobs numbers for a first presidential year, 3 times more than the total of the three previous Repub presidents combined, that must be 1,000 times more than your Dear Cult Leader created in 4 long years, passing more meaningful positive economic legislation so far than any Repub, perhaps ever?
You're a big believer in polls now. Browse around RealClearPolitics and see what the consensus of polls is showing. Individual polls tell us little. A consensus of polls tells us more.
Bear in mind, the RCP consensus of polls is ok, but they do lean heavily on including Rasmussen multiple times, which always over-samples dimwit Repubs. Oh, and for at least a year the growing number of self-described Independents has tended to lean more pro-Dem and the percentage of people self-identifying as Repubs has dwindled. So any poll that chooses roughly an equal number of Dem, Independent and Repub respondents will be way over-sampling the shrinking number of Repub leaners anyway..LOL. Is that what it said?
"At 42%, the model envisions virtually no chance for Democrats to hold the Senate and predicts a loss of four seats as the most likely outcome. At 42%, the Colorado Senate seat could potentially come into play, assuming that Republicans produced a credible candidate (remember that a relatively unheralded candidate held Sen. Michael Bennet to a six-point margin in 2016)."
Eih, you are great at revisionism. Somehow Carter was a better president than Reagan but let us try the future. Tell me what happens in the midterms this year. Make your prediction.
Axel Heyst
01-15-22, 00:31
President Biden Job Approval Rasmussen Reports _Approve 38, Disapprove 60 **Net Disapprove +22.
President Biden Job Approval Quinnipiac _Approve 35, Disapprove 54 **Net Disapprove +19.
President Biden Job Approval Politico / Morning Consult _Approve 44, Disapprove 53 **Disapprove +9.
President Biden Job Approval Economist / YouGov_Approve 45, Disapprove 51 **Disapprove +6.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ 1/14/2021.
I didn't proof read it and I corrected it. Your posts make no sense.
Windmills don't cause cancer they kill thousands of birds.
Making outlandish statements doesn't make you look smarter.First, you "corrected" nothing unilaterally. You "corrected" your 25% comment after you got called out on it several times.
Now, as to the following statements I made: "As in, "Everybody knows" that windmills cause cancer.
Or as in, "Everybody knows" that Chinese thermostats changed votes.
Or as in, "Everybody knows" that injecting bleach cures COVID."
Statement#1 and statement #3 were made by none other than the former guy, your hero, the twice-impeached so-called potus. Statement #2 was made by a DOJ official (Jeffrey Clark) who was appointed by the aforementioned twice-impeached so-called potus.
So it was your guy and his guy who made outlandish statement. If you'd like, I'll post more outlandish statements by the twice-impeached Cheeto McBonespurs. Unfortunately, many supporters of the former guy believe all of his outlandish statements.
Since you don't live in USA and only watch fake news and totally can't comprehend how incompetent Biden is we will just disregard your posts. If we want to get wrong information we will just watch CNN for 15 minutes. CNN and you are so fixated on Trump you just can't leave his name out of it. CNN mentioned Trump 3 times more than they mentioned inflation last month. Just like CNN you are jealous of the fact that Trump did so well and Biden is so bad. Biden ratings are in the tank. He is a disaster for America. It doesn't matter what other presidents in history have done. We are in trouble. You can live in a third world country and ignore the facts but quit posting your nonsense.Spoken like someone clearly defeated and utterly incapable of substantiating his position on the actual facts, all of which are available to everyone outside of internet blocked dictatorships and for anyone not trapped and slavishly devoted to the Trump Cult.
My oil stocks increased about 50% on average. My Berkshire stock went up about 40% and the balance of my other dicks went up about 17%. My one share of Berkshire is up to $483,000 thanks to his generous donations to Biden. I did well in Clinton years but I didn't have as much invested then. With Clinton being a lame duck president and republicans holding the house and senate, it forced to Clinton to join the republicans on passing legislation. Worked well. Clinton was smart. The one thing I know is that I did better this year than you did in all your years of investing. Satisfaction in that.Well, even if 2-3 of your 200 stocks beat the overall market, the others you mentioned most definitely underperformed the market and with your admitted tendency to grossly underperform the market it is likely 2021 was no exception to that pattern.
Actually, as regards the stock market under Clinton, his historic Bull Run began in mid 1994, months after he and the Dems passed the 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act without a single Repub vote and months before the midterm that flipped control of Congress from Dem to Repub.
So all of the most significant elements for the subsequent economic boomtimes, historic stock market gains and balancing the budget to produce the surpluses GW Bush inherited and totally squandered were already locked in the system solely by Dems before any Repub so much as chaired a committee to spend all their time in the next 6 years sniffing around Clinton's dick and balls trying to find out where they've been.
Clinton won both of the 2 Nude Grinbitch government showdowns and shutdowns that followed so resoundingly it was Nude Grinbitch and not Clinton who was kicked out of office in humiliation no matter how many blowjobs Clinton accepted from consenting adult females the Do Nothing Repubs spent millions invesigating.
Agreed. If you had invested in oil industry and Warren Buffet companies last year it would have been a great year for you. The market outlook doesn't look so good for 2022 though. With Biden's record inflation the feds are going have to make some drastic changes.You mean if you had only invested in oil stocks and Buffett companies in your portfolio and nothing else. But nobody here has said that is what they did.
In reality, if you hadn't picked any particular stocks, hadn't assumed any unnecessary individual stock risk and hadn't paid anyone to help you do so and had all of your USA stock market holdings in a no-brainer, broadly diversified, far less risky mutual fund tracking the S&P 500 Index or the Wilshire 5000 Index it would have been a great year for you.
Please explain and supply documents of the supposed jobs Biden created. Please provide which policies he got approved by congress to create this jobs and in which sector these jobs were created. As for actual facts Biden hasn't gotten virtual nothing passe3 d through congress. Maybe I missed it but all reports still show no new jobs created by Biden only people returning to old jobs.
China virus is under control with 3 Trump vaccines. Biden Virus is out of control with no vaccine for it and limited testing kits available in USA. If anyone mishandled the China Virus and Biden virus it was Biden. And his polling numbers prove it.Sure, no problem.
The same documented, official source for jobs creation or loss every president has used to accurately claim jobs created or lost on his watch:
https://www.bls.gov/home.htm?view_full
Here:
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/biden-signs-covid-relief-bill-american-rescue-plan-into-law/
You know, the jobs creating legislation Repubs all around the country are taking credit for at ribbon cuttings and job sites even though not one of them voted for it.
And here:
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/21/politics/biden-covid-vaccination-trump/index.html
You know, the creation from scratch the number one requirement for getting the USA economy and jobs creation started again after Trump created his Pandemic, spent 2020 discouraging anyone from bothering to invent a vaccine for it or taking one and wiped out millions upon millions of jobs.
And here, passed and has already started to produce jobs in preparation for it:
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/senate-passes-11-trillion-bipartisan-infrastructure-bill-big/story?id=79378221
LOL. Is that what it said?
"At 42%, the model envisions virtually no chance for Democrats to hold the Senate and predicts a loss of four seats as the most likely outcome. At 42%, the Colorado Senate seat could potentially come into play, assuming that Republicans produced a credible candidate (remember that a relatively unheralded candidate held Sen. Michael Bennet to a six-point margin in 2016)."
Eih, you are great at revisionism. Somehow Carter was a better president than Reagan but let us try the future. Tell me what happens in the midterms this year. Make your prediction.Um, you're reading and quoting an opinion piece on that site. The various Jobs Approval and Favorability Ratings are found in the drop down menu.
The logical prediction for the midterms is the same pattern for the 1st midterm of a new presidency combined with the same pattern for what happens to Dems in Congress after they pass and enact historic legislation that Repubs and their typically loyal benefactors in Maistream Media effectively demonize and frighten the American people over early on for their purposes but inevitably turn out to be among the most revered and guarded components that Makes America Great; they lose significant numbers of seats.
It happened after every major Dem improvement on American life from FDR to LBJ to Clinton to Obama. Which means it will probably happen with Biden, too.
None of the "gotcha" demonizing of sucker culture war issues matter in the least to that outcome even though pro Repub pundits will try to claim guru status for recognizing and pointing to them.
They are not needed to produce that likely midterm outcome. That is just the pattern and the way Americans can be swayed and influenced whether it is the 1930's, 1960's, 1990's, 2000's or 2020+.
I'm not a republican or democrat, I don't hate Joe Biden.I believe you. Right-wingers are so far off the rails that mainstream Republicans are same as Marxists to you.
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