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Xpartan
02-01-22, 05:35
What you originally said was "You can't let go of the past. " When I destroyed that argument by saying that the one-term, twice-impeached former guy keeps talking about the past, you moved the goalposts. Again.

Is that all you fascists do? 1. Make a fallacious argument; 2. Get schooled; 3. Move the goalposts. Um, yeah.

P.S. Tried to post that and got a message that my reply was too short.

Hopefully, it's fine now, LOL.

MarquisdeSade1
02-01-22, 05:48
Cali, of course this is Woke racism at it's most discriminatory and most obvious. The selection is based solely on the color of one's skin. But racism is the bedrock foundation of the radical Woke Marxist Democratic Party. There is nothing new here. What is interesting, however, is the racist selection process does not matter one iota to the party faithful and the radical left calling the shots that 76% of Americans think stinks. So one more time Uncle Joe will shoot himself in the foot and go ahead with this selection anyway regardless of the huge political price he and his party will pay for this travesty of the American promise. He dutifully follows his marching orders because he is too mentally challenged to understand how loathsome this is to most Americans of all parties, races, and regions and as a result how harmful it is to what is left of his sinking presidency.

Let's Go Brandon! Keep it up Joe. I don't want to see your party just defeated in the next election. I want to see it decimated in the next election. Hee Haw!https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/31/business/media/rachel-maddow-msnbc-hiatus.html

What will you do without your DNC talking points LMAO.

EihTooms
02-01-22, 07:56
A person can go broke betting that rich criminals in the United States will go to jail.

The safe bet in America is investing in jails to house poor people that get charged with crimes. They often go to jail before they're convicted.

No ex president has ever been charged with a crime, much less locked up for one..Before Trump signed and passed his one and only significant economic legislation on the last possible business day of 2017, that godawful waste of $2.5+ Trillion, The Tax Cut and Jobs Act, a fellow poster here who apparently was a longtime sucker for the perennial pro Repub election Mainstream Media falsehood that "Republicans handle the economy better than Democrats" wanted to bet me $1 that the USA economy would then soar to the tune of 10 quarters of 3%+ GDP growth or some such nonsense. I was supposed to bet it wouldn't.

Of course, as it turned out Trump, Moscow Mitch and the other Repubs who put that piece of crap together had conned American taxpayers into flushing $2.5+ Trillion down the shitter in exchange for fewer jobs created with it than without it, no noticeable improvement in Real GDP growth with it than without it and I don't think it ever produced even a single quarter of 3% GDP growth before Trump's spectacularly horrible economic stewardship and decisions plunged us into another, say it with me, Great Repub Crash and Recession.

I didn't take the bet. Yes, I lost a whole $1 by not placing it on the one most easily predictable outcome of any political party's likely economic results in history.

But I just couldn't bring myself to bet "on" the economic failure of America, which is what that bet would have been for on my side of it. Not even for $1.

Now somebody wants you to bet serious money that someone who was the President of the United States, an honored position touted by Americans as the Leader of the Free World, is enough of a stone cold criminal as his own words and behavior provide evidence for over and over again that even the millions of dollars his sucker cult followers send him won't keep him from being indicted, charged, convicted and required to spend well-deserved time behind bars.

How sad.

PVMonger
02-01-22, 17:32
Cali, of course this is Woke racism at it's most discriminatory and most obvious. The selection is based solely on the color of one's skin. But racism is the bedrock foundation of the radical Woke Marxist Democratic Party. There is nothing new here. What is interesting, however, is the racist selection process does not matter one iota to the party faithful and the radical left calling the shots that 76% of Americans think stinks. So one more time Uncle Joe will shoot himself in the foot and go ahead with this selection anyway regardless of the huge political price he and his party will pay for this travesty of the American promise. He dutifully follows his marching orders because he is too mentally challenged to understand how loathsome this is to most Americans of all parties, races, and regions and as a result how harmful it is to what is left of his sinking presidency.

Let's Go Brandon! Keep it up Joe. I don't want to see your party just defeated in the next election. I want to see it decimated in the next election. Hee Haw!Fascists have a listening problem. They also have a racist problem, but everybody knows that since there isn't a Republican alive who doesn't fall into one or more of the following categories: fascist, racist, homophobe, misogynist, transphobe, xenophobe or, frankly, "truthphobe".

Fascists have ignored the fact that President Biden said "I will nominate will be someone with extraordinary qualifications, character, experience and integrity. And that person will be the first Black woman ever nominated to the United States Supreme Court.".

Please, fascists, note the order of the words. None of the words are bigly so you ought to be able to understand them. But this is about the order of the words, not their meaning. First extraordinary qualifications, then character, after that experience and finally integrity. Lots of words came before "Black woman". Yet you heard none of them. What you heard was "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Black woman."

Let me repeat that one more time. What fascists heard was "Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah Black woman. ".

For some reason, the fascists believe (undoubtedly because they are racists either overtly or covertly) that the best Black woman Biden could nominate is significantly less qualified than any white man he could nominate. You keep saying that, but saying it doesn't make it true. But just go on howling at the moon. We're all used to it.

The fascist Republican party evidently believes that Biden's nomination process will be to go to the mall and yell out "Yo, Shaniqua, come with me. I've got a job for you. " Sorry, but looking under rocks for the dumbest sycophants you can find was what the one-term, twice-impeached former guy did. I know that because the one-term, twice-impeached former guy had more turnover in his Cabinet in the first two and a half years of his presidency than any of his five immediate predecessors did in their entire first terms..

Biden will pick someone who is qualified who also happens to be a Black woman. It is the fascist, racist Republican party who, like always, is trying to make this about race when it is about extraordinary qualifications, character, experience and integrity. But everybody already knew that.

40 some-odd-years-ago, your god, Ronnie Reagan, said he'd nominate a woman to SCOTUS. Where was Republican outrage then? Passing over qualified men to nominate a woman? So what we have here is "manufactured outrage". Just like the "manufactured outrage" over books, furries, vaccines, the Big Lie, bathrooms, masks and everything else under the sun. All to detract from the attempted coup on January 6th.

EihTooms
02-01-22, 19:27
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/31/business/media/rachel-maddow-msnbc-hiatus.html

What will you do without your DNC talking points LMAO.Who is dead? She is taking a 2 month break from her regular spot on MSNBC to work on a feature film version of her book and on a new blog for the parent company of the channel she still works for.

Of course, it is odd that you would quote a poster who I doubt has ever watched a complete Rachel Maddow Show and appear to accuse him of spouting DNC talking points.

Unless you surmised from what you quoted of him that he must have been just as upset with Reagan and Trump both for announcing in advance that they would nominate a woman for the SCOTUS, with GHWBush for deciding in advance that his nominee would be an African American, with Eisenhower for deciding in advance that his nominee would be a Catholic, with Reagan again for deciding in advance that another nominee of his would be an Italian American, etc as he is with Biden for announcing upfront that his nominee would be a black woman but he was simply too polite to mention it.

Several presidents have sought barrier-breaking SCOTUS picks on race, gender, ethnicity.
Biden is not the first president to consider demographics.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/presidents-factored-race-gender-ethnicity-scotus-picks/story?id=82585364

Axel Heyst
02-01-22, 20:05
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/31/business/media/rachel-maddow-msnbc-hiatus.html

What will you do without your DNC talking points LMAO.My DNC talking points? That's a laugh. I have never been able to stomach more than 5 minutes of Rachel Maddow or that black monstrosity Joy Reid. What lovely women. It is almost enough to drive me into the arms of Ladyboys. Why are all the hot, fuckable news gals on Fox?

EihTooms
02-01-22, 20:05
At least, not in the past 100 years or since the data for this kind of thing has been available:

There were 4.6 million more job openings than unemployed workers in December

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/01/there-were-4point6-million-more-job-openings-than-unemployed-workers-in-december.html?__source=androidappshare

Of course, Repubs have a quick fix for a problem like this and for the kind of Trump's Pandemic Supply Chain Destruction Inflation the world is faced with today; they simply do what they usually do when they have the chance, which is to find some new and unprecedented way to crash the USA economy and wipe out millions of USA jobs.

In no time at all, any possibility of "too many jobs" "wages rising too much" and "prices rising to meet our capacity to pay them" will vanish into thin air and disappear just like that dream Trump told us his Pandemic would seem like any minute now way back in early 2020.

I know Repubs are champing at the bit, howling at the moon and clawing at the unyielding earth with their bare claws to get in there and do exactly that as soon as their extreme gerrymandering and plans to impose new rules to throw out likely Dem votes and only count the rest come to fruition.

EihTooms
02-02-22, 03:47
My DNC talking points? That's a laugh. I have never been able to stomach more than 5 minutes of Rachel Maddow or that black monstrosity Joy Reid. What lovely women. It is almost enough to drive me into the arms of Ladyboys. Why are all the hot, fuckable news gals on Fox?Yeah, I get a woody whenever FUX treats us to a close-up of Laura Ingraham or Jeanine Pirro:

Xpartan
02-02-22, 04:06
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/31/business/media/rachel-maddow-msnbc-hiatus.html

What will you do without your DNC talking points LMAO.There are three major problems with all Trump's fan boys without exception.

1. Their catastrophic lack of reading comprehension.

2. Their unquenchable thirst for deluding themselves.

3. Their raging hatred for public figures who dislike their god.

Maybe stick to your beloved newsmax? Just saying.

PVMonger
02-02-22, 04:40
There are three major problems with all Trump's fan boys without exception.

1. Their catastrophic lack of reading comprehension.

2. Their unquenchable thirst for deluding themselves.

3. Their raging hatred for public figures who dislike their god.

Maybe stick to your beloved newsmax? Just saying.4. Their stupendous stupidity.

PVMonger
02-02-22, 06:01
So the one-term, twice-impeached former guy said recently that Mike Pence absolutely had the authority to not count electors from certain states. In other words, he thinks that Mike Pence could pick the President.

Did he realize that means that in 2024, Kamala Harris will get to pick the next President?

He also has been saying for the last 2 years that he won the 2020 election. If that's true, he can't run again because the Constitution forbids more than 2 terms.

Xpartan
02-02-22, 07:18
Yeah, I get a woody whenever FUX treats us to a close-up of Laura Ingraham or Jeanine Pirro:Don't laugh. One stud certainly does.

ScatManDoo
02-02-22, 11:12
4. Their stupendous stupidity.And they smell like sewage.

Axel Heyst
02-02-22, 15:14
Yeah, I get a woody whenever FUX treats us to a close-up of Laura Ingraham or Jeanine Pirro:ET,

Why does it not surprise me that you have eclectic taste in women. LOL. But then again, maybe you know what you are doing. From my good times in the PI, I know that devout church going gals like Laura Ingraham can really put out once they are sufficiently aroused and I bet with the lights off Jeanine Pirro gives excellent head.

But I had more delectable girls in mind when I mentioned Fox News Gals. Girls like Katie Pavlich, Courtney Friel, and Jenna Lee. I would go down on all three and then have interesting conversations with them over dinner. Real GFE. Ha Ha Ha!

Canada
02-02-22, 16:22
There are three major problems with all Trump's fan boys without exception.

1. Their catastrophic lack of reading comprehension.

2. Their unquenchable thirst for deluding themselves.

3. Their raging hatred for public figures who dislike their god.

Maybe stick to your beloved newsmax? Just saying.Wrong again. Half of Trump supporters don't like Trump as a person. I for one think he is a typical arrogant New Yorker. But I appreciate what he tried to do for the country. After Obama someone had to try to drain the swamp. Get rid of the swamp both democrats and republicans that were benefiting from the tax payers. He ruffled feathers on both sides and with the pandemic he did not get re-elected. Now all Americans are paying the price of Biden election and the politicians are back to getting rich. There are bad apples in congress on both sides of the aisle. By the end of Biden presidency anyone will be able to run against him and win. He won't even get the nomination from the democrats.

Canada
02-02-22, 16:25
4. Their stupendous stupidity.I will add another one. Their wealth and great lifestyle from working hard, building companies and hiring thousands of people.

PVMonger
02-02-22, 20:18
Wrong again. Half of Trump supporters don't like Trump as a person. I for one think he is a typical arrogant New Yorker. But I appreciate what he tried to do for the country. After Obama someone had to try to drain the swamp. Get rid of the swamp both democrats and republicans that were benefiting from the tax payers. He ruffled feathers on both sides and with the pandemic he did not get re-elected. Now all Americans are paying the price of Biden election and the politicians are back to getting rich. There are bad apples in congress on both sides of the aisle. By the end of Biden presidency anyone will be able to run against him and win. He won't even get the nomination from the democrats.What the one-term, twice-impeached former guy tried to do for the country? Like having more of his Cabinet leave in 2-1/2 years than any of his predecessors did in their entire first term? Yep, that's sure draining the swamp.

He said he was going to be so busy working that he wouldn't have time for golf. Then he took more golf vacations than anybody. But at his own golf clubs so he could overcharge his security detail. Yep, that was sure draining the swamp.

Did he get rid of one RethugliKKKan who was benefitting from the tax payers? Nope. But he sure did give the fat cats a huge never-to-expire tax cut, right? And did he ever stick it to the American consumer. Let's have a trade war with China and I'll lie to my base and tell them that tariffs are really paid by China. The price of everything will go up but, hey, I'll just lie and say it isn't. And his base, including you, were stupid enough to believe it.

And then to top it off, he lied to the entire country about COVID. It'll go away in a week, he said. We've got 15 cases now but soon it will be zero, he said. Inject bleach, he said.

He didn't get re-elected because he was the dumbest guy in the room and refused to admit it. Any good leader will tell you that the way to be a good leader is to surround yourself with people who are smarter than you are. The one-term, twice-impeached former guy hired people who were actually dumber than he was and yes-men to boot.

And on top of all of that, when he lost he tried to stage a coup to take back the presidency.

Anybody who voted for this moron is one themselves.

EihTooms
02-02-22, 20:39
So the one-term, twice-impeached former guy said recently that Mike Pence absolutely had the authority to not count electors from certain states. In other words, he thinks that Mike Pence could pick the President.

Did he realize that means that in 2024, Kamala Harris will get to pick the next President?

He also has been saying for the last 2 years that he won the 2020 election. If that's true, he can't run again because the Constitution forbids more than 2 terms.He doesn't think anything through because with his supporters he knows he doesn't need to.

Look, if by now he knows he lost the 2020 election fair and square then he is the most dangerous America-hating liar and conman ever. But if by now he doesn't know he lost fair and square then he is the most dangerous blithering idiot ever.

Yet, all 74 million of his supporters would vote for him to sign and pass whatever crap economic legislation his spineless Know Nothing congressional Repubs place in front of him, make serious life and death decisions regarding National Security and face our adversaries at the negotiation table this very day.

Axel Heyst
02-02-22, 20:52
"A bedroom. The clock radio strikes 6:00. Sonny and Cher singing, "I Got You Babe. " CNN chief congressional correspondent Manu Raju gets out of bed and gets dressed.

Raju: Senator Manchin, as you know, there is a great deal of pressure on you to help pass the Build Back Better Bill, which will build a bridge to the 22nd century, give everyone a free Disney+ subscription, cure cancer, make the Little Red-Haired Girl fall in love with Charlie Brown, and save America. Will you finally vote to support it?

Joe Manchin: It's pretty expensive. I don't think we can afford it. It has a lot of stuff we don't need. It'll drive up inflation, which is already becoming a major concern. So I'm not a fan.

Raju: Senator Manchin, as you know, racist Senate rules require the consent of 60 members before a bill can proceed to a vote. Will you join Bernie Sanders, Ed Markey, and other middle-of-the-road Americans who say it's time to end the filibuster?

Manchin: Seems like a bad idea. It's the kind of thing the other party will use against us the next time they get a chance. Besides, if you're going to do anything major, you should probably secure a bipartisan consensus first. So I'm not crazy about that idea.

A bedroom. The clock radio strikes 6:00. Sonny and Cher singing, "I Got You Babe. " CNN chief congressional correspondent Manu Raju gets out of bed and gets dressed.

Raju: Senator Manchin, America urgently needs the Build Back Better Act, which is the only legislation currently proposed that will stop the country from literally dissolving and trickling into the oceans like melting snow. Will you vote to support this precious bill or would you rather all of the babies die?

Manchin: I think America has other priorities at the moment. So I'm thinking it's not a good idea.

Raju: But surely you won't side with Strom Thurmond by continuing to support the pernicious filibuster?

Manchin: I don't think we should nuke the filibuster, sorry.

A bedroom. The clock radio strikes 6:00. Sonny and Cher singing, "I Got You Babe. " CNN chief congressional correspondent Manu Raju gets out of bed and gets dressed.

Raju: Senator Manchin, isn't it about damn time you grew a pair and supported the Build Back Better Act?

Manchin: It's bad legislation. So, no.

Raju: You have to be freaking kidding me. But what about the stupid filibuster that is crushing American dreams like so many M&Ms disappearing under a steamroller?

Manchin: The filibuster isn't going anywhere.

A bedroom. The clock radio strikes 6:00. Sonny and Cher singing, "I Got You Babe. " CNN chief congressional correspondent Manu Raju gets out of bed and gets dressed.

Raju: Senator Manchin, the Build. . .

Manchin: Back Better Act? It's garbage. I'll never support it in a thousand lifetimes.

Raju: But the fili-.

Manchin: The filibuster stays, my man. How many times do I have to tell you?

Raju: You've never told me this before. This is the first time I've asked you.

A bedroom. The clock radio strikes 6:00. Sonny and Cher singing, "I Got You Babe. " CNN chief congressional correspondent Manu Raju gets out of bed and gets dressed.

Another bedroom. The clock radio strikes 6:00. Sonny and Cher singing, "I Got You Babe. " CNN media reporter Brian Stelter gets out of bed and gets dressed.

Raju: Senator Manchin. . .

Manchin: I think we're done here.

Raju: What do you mean?

Manchin: You're going to ask me how I'm voting on Build Back Better and whether I'm going to blow up the filibuster.

Raju: How did you know that?

Manchin: I have this funny feeling this has all happened before. I call it theéja Raju.

(Cut to).

Stelter: Today on CNN, we tell you what's on Fox News Channel. American Democracy is under siege, and yet Fox is incessantly reporting on local school boards, which are supposed to operate free of interference from annoying voters. Brianna?

A bedroom. The clock radio strikes 6:00. Sonny and Cher singing, "I Got You Babe. " CNN chief congressional correspondent Manu Raju gets out of bed and gets dressed.

(Cut to).

Another bedroom. The clock radio strikes 6:00. Sonny and Cher singing, "I Got You Babe. " CNN media Reporter Brian Stelter gets out of bed and gets dressed.

(Cut to).

Another bedroom. The clock radio strikes 6:00. Sonny and Cher singing, "I Got You Babe. " MSNBC anchor Joy Reid gets out of bed and gets dressed.

Raju: Senator Manchin-.

Manchin: Are you going to do that thing where you ask me the same thing you've asked me for 150 consecutive days?

Raju: I don't know what you're talking about.

Manchin: It's like you're living the same day over and over again without realizing it.

Raju: That's impossible. Today has never happened before.

(Cut to).

Stelter: Today on CNN, we tell you what's on Fox News Channel. Basic American freedoms are under siege, and yet Fox News Channel is doing a demented report on how people are trying to (makes air quotes) "censor" Joe Rogan. Brianna?

(Cut to).

Reid: Tonight on MSNBC, we're done fooling around. We've got an exclusive. Buckle up. Are you ready? We've got the scoop on how everything is racist. I promise you, you have never heard anything like this before. ".

Cali Guy
02-02-22, 20:52
At least, not in the past 100 years or since the data for this kind of thing has been available:

There were 4.6 million more job openings than unemployed workers in December

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/01/there-were-4point6-million-more-job-openings-than-unemployed-workers-in-december.html?__source=androidappshare

Of course, Repubs have a quick fix for a problem like this and for the kind of Trump's Pandemic Supply Chain Destruction Inflation the world is faced with today; they simply do what they usually do when they have the chance, which is to find some new and unprecedented way to crash the USA economy and wipe out millions of USA jobs.

In no time at all, any possibility of "too many jobs" "wages rising too much" and "prices rising to meet our capacity to pay them" will vanish into thin air and disappear just like that dream Trump told us his Pandemic would seem like any minute now way back in early 2020.

I know Repubs are champing at the bit, howling at the moon and clawing at the unyielding earth with their bare claws to get in there and do exactly that as soon as their extreme gerrymandering and plans to impose new rules to throw out likely Dem votes and only count the rest come to fruition.There are jobs openings because democrats don't want to return to work. Democrats are waiting for more free stuff from Biden. They are lazy and would rather collect UIC or welfare than actually work. Pretty simple.

EihTooms
02-02-22, 20:59
ET,

Why does it not surprise me that you have eclectic taste in women. LOL. But then again, maybe you know what you are doing. From my good times in the PI, I know that devout church going gals like Laura Ingraham can really put out once they are sufficiently aroused and I bet with the lights off Jeanine Pirro gives excellent head.

But I had more delectable girls in mind when I mentioned Fox News Gals. Girls like Katie Pavlich, Courtney Friel, and Jenna Lee. I would go down on all three and then have interesting conversations with them over dinner. Real GFE. Ha Ha Ha!Hmm. I am not finding that any of those three women are currently anchoring their own program on Fox News Channel the way the two lovelies I cited do and the way Joy Reid and Rachel Maddow do on MSNBC. I think one might still be an occasional guest commentator. Just based on a Google Search.

Maybe you could chat about how to keep a job over dinner. But I am all in favor of treating them to DATY. As long as they are fully shaved or waxed and never talk about politics, that is.

Cali Guy
02-02-22, 21:01
There are three major problems with all Trump's fan boys without exception.

1. Their catastrophic lack of reading comprehension.

2. Their unquenchable thirst for deluding themselves.

3. Their raging hatred for public figures who dislike their god.

Maybe stick to your beloved newsmax? Just saying.I have my masters in finance so I probably have more reading comprehension than you. The people that support Trump work for a living and hire millions of employees. The people that support Biden are criminals, people on welfare, BLM and Antifa who are all a drain on society. And as far as the news, Fox was Number 1 for the 20th straight year with viewers increasing every year. Fake News CNN is going the opposite way declining every year. Real Americans want real news. That is why Fox News is getting watched and stays number 1.

EihTooms
02-02-22, 21:02
I will add another one. Their wealth and great lifestyle from working hard, building companies and hiring thousands of people.Most successfully if not exclusively during Dem administrations. Same as Trump did.

Cali Guy
02-02-22, 21:05
So the one-term, twice-impeached former guy said recently that Mike Pence absolutely had the authority to not count electors from certain states. In other words, he thinks that Mike Pence could pick the President.

Did he realize that means that in 2024, Kamala Harris will get to pick the next President?

He also has been saying for the last 2 years that he won the 2020 election. If that's true, he can't run again because the Constitution forbids more than 2 terms.I see you are still infatuated with Trump. More than a year later losers are still infatuated with Trump. They can't talk about Biden because of Biden failing policies both domestic and international. I bet the fools will still be posting a year from now on Trump.

Canada
02-02-22, 22:59
Before Trump signed and passed his one and only significant economic legislation on the last possible business day of 2017, that godawful waste of $2.5+ Trillion, The Tax Cut and Jobs Act, a fellow poster here who apparently was a longtime sucker for the perennial pro Repub election Mainstream Media falsehood that "Republicans handle the economy better than Democrats" wanted to bet me $1 that the USA economy would then soar to the tune of 10 quarters of 3%+ GDP growth or some such nonsense. I was supposed to bet it wouldn't.

Of course, as it turned out Trump, Moscow Mitch and the other Repubs who put that piece of crap together had conned American taxpayers into flushing $2.5+ Trillion down the shitter in exchange for fewer jobs created with it than without it, no noticeable improvement in Real GDP growth with it than without it and I don't think it ever produced even a single quarter of 3% GDP growth before Trump's spectacularly horrible economic stewardship and decisions plunged us into another, say it with me, Great Repub Crash and Recession.

I didn't take the bet. Yes, I lost a whole $1 by not placing it on the one most easily predictable outcome of any political party's likely economic results in history.

But I just couldn't bring myself to bet "on" the economic failure of America, which is what that bet would have been for on my side of it. Not even for $1.

Now somebody wants you to bet serious money that someone who was the President of the United States, an honored position touted by Americans as the Leader of the Free World, is enough of a stone cold criminal as his own words and behavior provide evidence for over and over again that even the millions of dollars his sucker cult followers send him won't keep him from being indicted, charged, convicted and required to spend well-deserved time behind bars..I will take your bet for serious money. Let's say $100,000. Money put up in advance in trust. I will take your bet and I assure you I will win because Trump will never go to jail. Was this just another of your lies? Were you lying or are you really going to make this bet?

PVMonger
02-03-22, 02:18
I will take your bet for serious money. Let's say $100,000. Money put up in advance in trust. I will take your bet and I assure you I will win because Trump will never go to jail. Was this just another of your lies? Were you lying or are you really going to make this bet?Nowhere in the original post did the OP say that he was betting anything. No wonder you voted for the one-term, twice-impeached former guy.

ROFL.

ScatManDoo
02-03-22, 02:18
I see you are still infatuated with Trump. More than a year later losers are still infatuated with Trump. They can't talk about Biden because of Biden failing policies both domestic and international. I bet the fools will still be posting a year from now on Trump.I for one, am far more amused and entertained by TrumpShit than any other political shit. So I will still talk about TrumpShit.

Most amusing today is T-Shits attack today on his most pathetic lackey, Lindsey Graham.

Graham had the audacity to say that the folks who attached the capital, and were convicted, should not receive blanket amnesty.

BTW: TrumpShit's declaration yesterday (and his doubling down today) that he would give his criminal houligan's amnesty.

Means he finally went too far.

He started, what will be, a straight line decline for him.

His popularity, even with members of his own party is going to begin its decline (if iit didn't start already).

Donald Trump is a criminal, and he is headed for jail.

Less and less people are going to miss him.

PVMonger
02-03-22, 02:21
I see you are still infatuated with Trump. More than a year later losers are still infatuated with Trump. They can't talk about Biden because of Biden failing policies both domestic and international. I bet the fools will still be posting a year from now on Trump.I am just passing on news. If the news is about the one-term, twice-impeached former guy, so be it.

The only reason you fascists comment on it and on Biden is because you are running away from January 6th as fast as your little fascist legs can carry you.

PVMonger
02-03-22, 02:25
I have my masters in finance so I probably have more reading comprehension than you. The people that support Trump work for a living and hire millions of employees. The people that support Biden are criminals, people on welfare, BLM and Antifa who are all a drain on society. And as far as the news, Fox was Number 1 for the 20th straight year with viewers increasing every year. Fake News CNN is going the opposite way declining every year. Real Americans want real news. That is why Fox News is getting watched and stays number 1.You claim to have great reading comprehension. Where, in the three (that's 3, meaning more than 2 and less than 4) points the OP posted did he ever mention the word news. Yet here you are mentioning "news"?

Comprehension is fundamental and you do not have it.

EihTooms
02-03-22, 03:22
I will take your bet for serious money. Let's say $100,000. Money put up in advance in trust. I will take your bet and I assure you I will win because Trump will never go to jail. Was this just another of your lies? Were you lying or are you really going to make this bet?Where did you see me offering to make this bet?

Was it the same place you imagined seeing and hearing defeated, twice-Impeached former so-called president Trump doing or saying anything as intelligently, well-informed and competently as current President Biden?

EihTooms
02-03-22, 03:50
I have my masters in finance so I probably have more reading comprehension than you. The people that support Trump work for a living and hire millions of employees. The people that support Biden are criminals, people on welfare, BLM and Antifa who are all a drain on society. And as far as the news, Fox was Number 1 for the 20th straight year with viewers increasing every year. Fake News CNN is going the opposite way declining every year. Real Americans want real news. That is why Fox News is getting watched and stays number 1.Applying your masters in finance, if your best friend was manufacturing a consumer product and was offered a free one-time-only commercial spot on the highest rated Fox News Channel program, either The Five or Tucker Carlson or on the lowest rated regular network news hour, CBS Evening News, which offer would you advise him to snap up in a heartbeat?

MarquisdeSade1
02-03-22, 04:01
Yes, that is what makes a true due diligence based prediction for the outcome of the midterms impossible.

On the one hand, the Dems have the repeated pattern of the 1st midterm of a new president going against them. They also have going against them with Biden and the Dems today the pattern of Dems losing significant numbers of congressional seats in subsequent midterms after passing truly great, historic, American life-improving legislation and programs as happened with FDR, LBJ, Clinton and Obama due to the effective demonization of those soon-to-be revered Great American Attributes by America-hating Repubs and their typically supportive pundits in Mainstream Media.

Add to that the extreme gerrymandering by Repubs to create new districts out of the likely Dem new arrivals that miraculously remained predominantly white Repub along with the new rules and laws being passed by Repub state legislatures to grant their loony QAnon overlords the power to throw out all the big city ballots and not count them at all if the outcome of the count does not please them..https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/02/nyregion/redistricting-gerrymandering-ny.html

PVMonger
02-03-22, 04:39
I have my masters in finance so I probably have more reading comprehension than you. The people that support Trump work for a living and hire millions of employees. The people that support Biden are criminals, people on welfare, BLM and Antifa who are all a drain on society. And as far as the news, Fox was Number 1 for the 20th straight year with viewers increasing every year. Fake News CNN is going the opposite way declining every year. Real Americans want real news. That is why Fox News is getting watched and stays number 1.Actually, none of these agree with your rant. At all. https://dasil.sites.grinnell.edu/2020/05/the-demographic-profiles-of-democrats-and-republicans/ and https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/economic-demographics-republicans/ and https://www.debt.org/faqs/americans-in-debt/economic-demographics-democrats/.

But what all three of these studies show is that people who vote Republican are racist, fascist, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic or xenophobic. All Republicans identify with at least one of these characteristics. Most supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached former guy identify with 3 or 4.

EihTooms
02-03-22, 05:41
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/02/nyregion/redistricting-gerrymandering-ny.htmlGreat real news for a change!

Yes, as I have always said, as long as it is legal and promotes more congressional seats and presidential victories for the one Party that has produced and presided over every major economic recovery, expansion, market gains and historic jobs creation and none of the historic Crashes and Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years, the Democratic Party, rather than promoting more of those for the one Party that has produced and presided over the exact opposite results, the Republican Party, I'm all for it. Otherwise, I'm against it.

Now, if we outlaw gerrymandering and overturn all the other rigging in favor of a loony minority of Americans driving the economy into the shitter like clockwork whenever given the chance that is built into the system, like the Electoral College and the number of Senate seats determined by empty land mass rather than by the population of human beings, we might never see a Repub control of the House, the Senate, the White House or the Judiciary again. God Bless America.

EihTooms
02-03-22, 10:06
I will take your bet for serious money. Let's say $100,000. Money put up in advance in trust. I will take your bet and I assure you I will win because Trump will never go to jail. Was this just another of your lies? Were you lying or are you really going to make this bet?"Trump will never go to jail".

That's a bold prediction. Let's consider a few of your safety nets in making that bold prediction:

Trump is a lifelong professional criminal who just recently bribed his former Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows, to suddenly change his mind about cooperating with the 1/6 Investigation to the tune of $1 Million of other people's money given to his non-profit. That's something like 100 times more than Trump ever donated to other non-profits.

Trump can and will try to bribe witnesses, judges, jurors, everybody, with other people's money. It only takes one.

Trump can use other people's money to delay his trials and sentencing well beyond his expected lifespan.

Any one of the 74 million or rather 37 million loons who followed his instructions to vote for him twice in 2020 could weasel his or her way onto the jury. If so, game over.

Trump would be embraced with open arms in Russia, China, North Korea, with the Taliban and any number of America's adversaries he kissed ass for to gain sanctuary from prosecution or sentencing.

Now, if the bet is whether or not Trump committed serious crimes regardless whether or not he defies all historical precedent and spends time behind bars, Trump has already admitted to that. You could simply start with his admission that he tore up his written documents during his so-called presidency. You know, the ones his staff had to scotch tape together, some of which are now being reviewed by the 1/6 Commission?

Yeah, that violated The Presidential Records Act, which is a Federal Crime, a Felony.

Cali Guy
02-03-22, 14:32
Applying your masters in finance, if your best friend was manufacturing a consumer product and was offered a free one-time-only commercial spot on the highest rated Fox News Channel program, either The Five or Tucker Carlson or on the lowest rated regular network news hour, CBS Evening News, which offer would you advise him to snap up in a heartbeat?Simple. You go on the highest rated network with the highest audience. Fox has more viewers than any other news network so more customers. Hence the Super Bowls ads are more expensive regardless of which network broadcasts it as the audience is huge.

PVMonger
02-03-22, 15:47
Applying your masters in finance, if your best friend was manufacturing a consumer product and was offered a free one-time-only commercial spot on the highest rated Fox News Channel program, either The Five or Tucker Carlson or on the lowest rated regular network news hour, CBS Evening News, which offer would you advise him to snap up in a heartbeat?I wonder, too, how he'll answer this post. I think I know what he'll say because he's repeated his illogical "logic" ad infinitum. But for now, I'll just wait and see.

PVMonger
02-03-22, 17:55
Simple. You go on the highest rated network with the highest audience. Fox has more viewers than any other news network so more customers. Hence the Super Bowls ads are more expensive regardless of which network broadcasts it as the audience is huge.CBS evening news gets about 5 MM viewers per night in Q4 2021. "The CBS Evening News with Norah O'Donnell averaged 5.08 million total viewers and 881,000 adults 25-54 in Q4. " https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/q4-2021-evening-news-ratings-abc-world-news-tonight-continues-to-beat-competition/496936/.

In comparison. FUX "News" Tucker "Nobody in their right mind should believe anything I say" Carlson's show averaged about 3 million viewers. "Fox News Channel had the five most-watched shows in all of cable news for the week ending August 1, with Tucker Carlson Tonight again being the top-rated show overall, with an average total audience of 2. 9 million viewers. " https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2021/08/03/fox-news-sweeps-weeks-top-five-most-watched-shows-in-cable-news/?sh=ad5eef94cd6e.

So, the FUX "News" guy had 3 million viewers and CBS News had 5 million viewers, yet the Cali guy says "Fox has more viewers than any other news network".

Only in fascist-land is 3 million higher than 5 million.

Xpartan
02-03-22, 20:39
Great real news for a change!

Yes, as I have always said, as long as it is legal and promotes more congressional seats and presidential victories for the one Party that has produced and presided over every major economic recovery, expansion, market gains and historic jobs creation and none of the historic Crashes and Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years, the Democratic Party, rather than promoting more of those for the one Party that has produced and presided over the exact opposite results, the Republican Party, I'm all for it. Otherwise, I'm against it.Honestly, I'm not sure what makes you happy about this.

Gerrymandering is disgusting and immoral. It's designed to suppress the will of people, which is why it's illegal in most, if not all world democracies. Democrats can't claim moral superiority if they use the same revolting tool of political chicanery as their opponents.

Basically, you're saying it's OK to do shitty things as long as it suits "the good guys".

Nah, not with you on this one.

On an unrelated note, it seems Monsieur de Sade has been on the roll lately quoting the "fake news" NYT left and right. Good for him.


"Trump will never go to jail".

That's a bold prediction. Let's consider a few of your safety nets in making that bold prediction:

Trump is a lifelong professional criminal who just recently bribed his former Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows, to suddenly change his mind about cooperating with the 1/6 Investigation to the tune of $1 Million of other people's money given to his non-profit. That's something like 100 times more than Trump ever donated to other non-profits.

Trump can and will try to bribe witnesses, judges, jurors, everybody, with other people's money. It only takes one.

Trump can use other people's money to delay his trials and sentencing well beyond his expected lifespan.

Any one of the 74 million or rather 37 million loons who followed his instructions to vote for him twice in 2020 could weasel his or her way onto the jury. If so, game over.

Trump would be embraced with open arms in Russia, China, North Korea, with the Taliban and any number of America's adversaries he kissed ass for to gain sanctuary from prosecution or sentencing.

Now, if the bet is whether or not Trump committed serious crimes regardless whether or not he defies all historical precedent and spends time behind bars, Trump has already admitted to that. You could simply start with his admission that he tore up his written documents during his so-called presidency. You know, the ones his staff had to scotch tape together, some of which are now being reviewed by the 1/6 Commission?

Yeah, that violated The Presidential Records Act, which is a Federal Crime, a Felony.This is a very concise summation of the reasons why Trump will probably not spend a day behind the bars in our corrupt, corrupt country. Unfortunately, you're right, it's pretty safe on the part of Canada to make that bet (aside from the fact it would be illegal and unenforceable anyway). In fact, Canada et al have never even tried to claim Trump's innocence; they're just cynically reveling in the fact that it would be an almost impossible task to bring him to justice.

PVMonger
02-03-22, 20:54
Honestly, I'm not sure what makes you happy about this.

Gerrymandering is disgusting and immoral. It's designed to suppress the will of people, which is why it's illegal in most, if not all world democracies. Democrats can't claim moral superiority if they use the same revolting tool of political chicanery as their opponents.

Basically, you're saying it's OK to do shitty things as long as it suits "the good guys".

Nah, not with you on this one.

On an unrelated note, it seems Monsieur de Sade has been on the roll lately quoting the "fake news" NYT left and right. Good for him.

This is a very concise summation of the reasons why Trump will probably not spend a day behind the bars in our corrupt, corrupt country. Unfortunately, you're right, it's pretty safe on the part of Canada to make that bet (aside from the fact it would be illegal and unenforceable anyway). In fact, Canada et al have never even tried to claim Trump's innocence; they're just cynically reveling in the fact that it would be an almost impossible task to bring him to justice.I think the gerrymandering comment was tongue-in-cheek. At least that is the way I interpreted it.

But the OTTIFG (one-term, twice-impeached former guy) said in January that if the fascists couldn't gerrymander, they'd never win another election. That is one of the reasons that they're against the voting rights act. That and wanting to take the USA back to the 1850's when it was legal to own people and the only folks who could vote were white, male property owners.

But you are right in saying the the OOTIFG or his criminal kids will never spend a day behind bars. He even said as much when he made his infamous "Times Square" (or was it 5th Avenue) comment. If the OTTIFG and his brood were ever deposed or put on trial, they'd all plead the 5th. And we all know what the OTTIFG said about that.

Axel Heyst
02-03-22, 21:21
Gerrymandering is disgusting and immoral. It's designed to suppress the will of people, which is why it's illegal in most, if not all world democracies. Democrats can't claim moral superiority if they use the same revolting tool of political chicanery as their opponents.

Basically, you're saying it's OK to do shitty things as long as it suits "the good guys".Good for you, Xpartan. I could not agree more. Gerrymandering is not right no matter which party is drawing up the maps or for whatever the stated higher purpose. The ends do not justify the means. Maybe if we could all cut out the hypocrisy, the bull crap, and agree on this fundamental principal, we might find a way to solve a few of the nation's real problems. But what is the chance of that happening? Zero.

I am not looking to single out the Dems alone on this issue, but currently they have the power in New York State. So, have you seen Nadler's new gerrymandered district that the new Governor will soon sign into law? It's a work of art. No wonder Americans have a 21% favorable opinion of Congress.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yorks-democratic-jerrymander-jerry-nadler-district-map-gerrymander-11643757160

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html#!

Canada
02-03-22, 21:30
I am just passing on news. If the news is about the one-term, twice-impeached former guy, so be it.

The only reason you fascists comment on it and on Biden is because you are running away from January 6th as fast as your little fascist legs can carry you.There is nothing to run away from Jan 6. Just another protest that was less violent than a BLM protest. You keep talking about January 6 like it hurt the American people but it is a fact Biden inflation is hurting Americans more than January 6 ever did.

Canada
02-03-22, 21:32
Honestly, I'm not sure what makes you happy about this.

Gerrymandering is disgusting and immoral. It's designed to suppress the will of people, which is why it's illegal in most, if not all world democracies. Democrats can't claim moral superiority if they use the same revolting tool of political chicanery as their opponents.

Basically, you're saying it's OK to do shitty things as long as it suits "the good guys".

Nah, not with you on this one.

On an unrelated note, it seems Monsieur de Sade has been on the roll lately quoting the "fake news" NYT left and right. Good for him..Most of us still live in USA where someone is innocent until proven guilty. Just because you hate America doesn't give you the right to change the laws.

Canada
02-03-22, 21:36
You claim to have great reading comprehension. Where, in the three (that's 3, meaning more than 2 and less than 4) points the OP posted did he ever mention the word news. Yet here you are mentioning "news"?

Comprehension is fundamental and you do not have it.Cali Guy is right. Companies pay more for advertising on higher rated networks. Don't try to confuse the issue with nonsense.

ScatManDoo
02-04-22, 00:11
CBS evening news gets about 5 MM viewers per night in Q4 2021. "The CBS Evening News with Norah O'Donnell averaged 5.08 million total viewers and 881,000 adults 25-54 in Q4. " https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/q4-2021-evening-news-ratings-abc-world-news-tonight-continues-to-beat-competition/496936/.

In comparison. FUX "News" Tucker "Nobody in their right mind should believe anything I say" Carlson's show averaged about 3 million viewers. "Fox News Channel had the five most-watched shows in all of cable news for the week ending August 1, with Tucker Carlson Tonight again being the top-rated show overall, with an average total audience of 2. 9 million viewers. " https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2021/08/03/fox-news-sweeps-weeks-top-five-most-watched-shows-in-cable-news/?sh=ad5eef94cd6e.

So, the FUX "News" guy had 3 million viewers and CBS News had 5 million viewers, yet the Cali guy says "Fox has more viewers than any other news network".

Only in fascist-land is 3 million higher than 5 million.So.

Is it the case that FUX news is in 4th place, behind not just CBS, but also NBC and ABC netwok news?

I don't think that NBC and ABC would be short 2 million viewers from CBS's 5 million pairs of eyes.

It seems like FUX fake news could be trailing in fourth.

ScatManDoo
02-04-22, 02:16
This is a very concise summation of the reasons why Trump will probably not spend a day behind the bars in our corrupt, corrupt country. Unfortunately, you're right, it's pretty safe on the part of Canada to make that bet (aside from the fact it would be illegal and unenforceable anyway). In fact, Canada et al have never even tried to claim Trump's innocence; they're just cynically reveling in the fact that it would be an almost impossible task to bring him to justice.I don't think TrumpShit is going to skate away from the bitter taste of justice.

A man his age in the United States has a life expectancy of around ten years.

Now the man lies about how healthy he really is, and his diet would seem to drive towards early heart disease.

But there are at least a half-dozen different jurisdictions all waiting and eager to deliver justice to The Donald.

States are competing against states (Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania? Potentially more). The January 6th committee will get one or more federal courts involved. And the South District of New York is ready to pounce!.

They each now have piles of compelling evidence.

And Trump will not succeed in slow-walking beyond 18 to 24 months against any judge eager to escort and move the court he or she controls along to the end of the court's case.

Half a dozen jurisdictions. The fastest wins best!

Staying free while working his appeal, won't exceed a year by much, if at all.

I will have a bet proposal for $500 that some wingnut here might find irresistible to make with me.

I will write the proposal on Sunday, unless admin contacts me to say it violates site rules. I have not read any rules that says proposing a bet is a no-no. But I think this website has secret rules that sometimes have gone into effect.

My bet will obviously have risk to me, so I am going to limit my loss to something I would be OK with.

PVMonger
02-04-22, 03:42
There is nothing to run away from Jan 6. Just another protest that was less violent than a BLM protest. You keep talking about January 6 like it hurt the American people but it is a fact Biden inflation is hurting Americans more than January 6 ever did.Even the most ignorant person in the US knows that January 6th was an attempted coup. Nobody with a brain ever said that an attempted coup didn't hurt anybody. Ever.

PVMonger
02-04-22, 03:54
Cali Guy is right. Companies pay more for advertising on higher rated networks. Don't try to confuse the issue with nonsense.Here was Xpartan's original post:

{There are three major problems with all Trump's fan boys without exception.

1. Their catastrophic lack of reading comprehension.

2. Their unquenchable thirst for deluding themselves.

3. Their raging hatred for public figures who dislike their god.

Maybe stick to your beloved newsmax? Just saying. "

Here was CaliGuy's nonsense reply:

"I have my masters in finance so I probably have more reading comprehension than you. The people that support Trump work for a living and hire millions of employees. The people that support Biden are criminals, people on welfare, BLM and Antifa who are all a drain on society. And as far as the news, Fox was Number 1 for the 20th straight year with viewers increasing every year. Fake News CNN is going the opposite way declining every year. Real Americans want real news. That is why Fox News is getting watched and stays number 1. ".

Here's my reply to his nonsense:

"You claim to have great reading comprehension. Where, in the three (that's 3, meaning more than 2 and less than 4) points the OP posted did he ever mention the word news. Yet here you are mentioning "news"?

Comprehension is fundamental and you do not have it."

And then you reply to my post with: "Cali Guy is right. Companies pay more for advertising on higher rated networks. Don't try to confuse the issue with nonsense..

Anybody with half-a-brain can see that your nonsense reply has absolutely nothing with the price of borscht in Moscow. And neither you nor he can read. You certainly can't respond more intelligently than my dog.

PVMonger
02-04-22, 04:03
So.

Is it the case that FUX news is in 4th place, behind not just CBS, but also NBC and ABC netwok news?

I don't think that NBC and ABC would be short 2 million viewers from CBS's 5 million pairs of eyes.

It seems like FUX fake news could be trailing in fourth.It is absolutely true that FUX "News" is in 4th place.

NBC Nightly News gets about 8 MM viewers, ABC World News Tonight gets about 7. 5 MM, ABC Evening News gets about 5 MM. Fux "News" is wiping up the rear with less than 3 MM viewers.

But in the warped fascist mind, 3 MM is greater than 5 MM (and probably greater than 7. 5 MM and 8 MM). Never trust a fascist to be able to read, to comprehend what they've read or do perform simple math. How they graduated from 3rd grade is a miracle.

PVMonger
02-04-22, 04:07
Most of us still live in USA where someone is innocent until proven guilty. Just because you hate America doesn't give you the right to change the laws.Actually, people who love America change unjust laws all the time.

People like you who hate America want to Make America White Again. You see it at every rally that the OTTIFG holds.

EihTooms
02-04-22, 04:19
Simple. You go on the highest rated network with the highest audience. Fox has more viewers than any other news network so more customers. Hence the Super Bowls ads are more expensive regardless of which network broadcasts it as the audience is huge.As has been pointed out, even the lowest rated regular broadcast news program, the enemies of the FUX News cultists, garners almost double the overall viewership and more importantly almost double the key 25-54 year old demo of the highest rated FUX News Channel program.

You would need to apologize to your friend for applying whatever masters in finance and reading comprehension skills you applied to screw him out of at least 50% of the key exposure and likely sales for his product in order to subject him to such ill-informed advice.

Axel Heyst
02-04-22, 04:30
Even the most ignorant person in the US knows that January 6th was an attempted coup. Nobody with a brain ever said that an attempted coup didn't hurt anybody. Ever.Well, you are one of the most brain dead BM's on this web site and you think Jan 6th was a coup so I guess it must have been a coup. And anyone who disagrees with you is a fascist.

You are a bad joke, PV. Not very amusing.

EihTooms
02-04-22, 04:48
Honestly, I'm not sure what makes you happy about this.

Gerrymandering is disgusting and immoral. It's designed to suppress the will of people, which is why it's illegal in most, if not all world democracies. Democrats can't claim moral superiority if they use the same revolting tool of political chicanery as their opponents.

Basically, you're saying it's OK to do shitty things as long as it suits "the good guys".

Nah, not with you on this one.Of course, I am delighted to hear the side that produces far, far better results has or will add more seats using perfectly legal means to do it. That they are doing it the way the other side has done it even more egregiously and had been crowing about all the wonderful outcomes it provides for their mission to crash the economy over and over again makes it even more delightful.

But, as I indicated, I would be even more delighted if the currently legal act of gerrymandering was outlawed. Along with a couple of other currently legal built-in rigging that gives a loony fringe minority in America control of the levers too much and too often.

Yes, unfortunately, it is currently legal. You want to make it illegal? The only way I can imagine that proposal ever getting enough necessary Repub votes in Congress to outlaw it is if Repubs' butts are bitten and bloodied by it much more severely than they are kissed by it.

And to that only possible end, I wholeheartedly encourage and applaud those world class gerrymandering Dems to carry on!

I don't really look to my elected politicians to teach me morality. I expect them to go about things legally but could not care less about whether or not it is considered shitty or disgusting by current and always shifting standards.

If I feel a need for moral guidance, not likely, but if I do, I will go to a priest or rabbi. LOL. Funny thought. But not a politician.

ScatManDoo
02-04-22, 10:44
There is nothing to run away from Jan 6. Just another protest that was less violent than a BLM protest. You keep talking about January 6 like it hurt the American people but it is a fact Biden inflation is hurting Americans more than January 6 ever did.During the January 6th insurrection rioting there were 140 police officer injured.

Which specific BLM protest had more than a dozen officers injured?

I think there was no BLM protest even come close.

In all the BLM protests of years 2020 and 2021 combined, how many police officers were injured?

EihTooms
02-04-22, 15:26
OK, the wimps on Wall Street might be terrified by this because, horror of horrors, the Fed will probably need to raise the cost of money somewhere just south of 2 friggin' percent over the next couple of years in order to cool down Biden's roaring economy.

But the classic Great Dem / Biden Economic Recovery, Expansion, Jobs Creation and Long Overdue American Wage Increases continues!

Along with major upward revisions for November and December, as predicted:

Payrolls show surprisingly powerful gain of 467,000 despite omicron surge

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/04/jobs-report-january-2020-.html?__source=androidappshare

Thanks go to Joe, Nancy, Chuck, the Dems and everyone who voted for them.

PVMonger
02-04-22, 15:47
Well, you are one of the most brain dead BM's on this web site and you think Jan 6th was a coup so I guess it must have been a coup. And anyone who disagrees with you is a fascist.

You are a bad joke, PV. Not very amusing.If you reread my original post, you braid-dead fascist, you will note that I said attempted coup. I guess you don't know what the word attempted means. I'd try to explain it but I'd have more luck trying to teach algebra to my dog.

A coup, as defined by Brittanica, is "coup d'état, also called coup, the sudden, violent overthrow of an existing government by a small group. " Was January 6th "sudden"? It was from the sense that nobody with half a brain thought a rally would amount to anything. Was it violent? Anybody with half a brain who looks at any of the thousands of videos from that day can think otherwise. Was it a "small group"? Only 750-some-odd have been charged so anybody with half a brain would call that relatively small.

But I did qualify statements in the last paragraph because I used the term "half a brain". So anybody with at least half a brain knows that January 6th was an attempted coup. If someone has less than half a brain, then January 6th was just a normal protest by a bunch of antifa clowns dressed up like supporters of the OTTIFG who took a leisurely stroll through the Capitol assisted by police officers. Of course, it is going to be hard to reconcile the fact that the OTTIFG is now offering to pardon all of those antifa clowns but, hey, the fascist Republican party does a good job at trying to spin things.

Bad joke? Yes, the fascists certainly are.

ScatManDoo
02-04-22, 19:09
I have my masters in finance so.Looks like your tuition-paying parents were ripped off.

1st graders know that 5 is bigger than 3.

And fourth graders know that 7.5 is also greater than 3 or 2.9.

Did you go to grade school and college in the State of California like I did?

My schools had standards and educated the people that attended.

Canada
02-04-22, 19:18
OK, the wimps on Wall Street might be terrified by this because, horror of horrors, the Fed will probably need to raise the cost of money somewhere just south of 2 friggin' percent over the next couple of years in order to cool down Biden's roaring economy.

But the classic Great Dem / Biden Economic Recovery, Expansion, Jobs Creation and Long Overdue American Wage Increases continues!

Along with major upward revisions for November and December, as predicted:

Payrolls show surprisingly powerful gain of 467,000 despite omicron surge

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/04/jobs-report-january-2020-.html?__source=androidappshare

Thanks go to Joe, Nancy, Chuck, the Dems and everyone who voted for them.Feds are going to have to raise rates to try and slow down Biden record inflation. Thanks Joe for high gas prices and high grocery bills. Good news is Biden is making sure oil companies get rich. Oil companies up already this year 20-30%. Between stopping drilling and cancelling pipelines oil production is down so we have to buy from OPEC and Russia at higher prices. Biden supporting oil world wide.

Canada
02-04-22, 19:20
During the January 6th insurrection rioting there were 140 police officer injured.

Which specific BLM protest had more than a dozen officers injured?

I think there was no BLM protest even come close.

In all the BLM protests of years 2020 and 2021 combined, how many police officers were injured?Please show proof from a real news site that shows 140 officers hurt. Or I will just assume you made this up like the rest if your fabricated posts.

Canada
02-04-22, 19:24
Actually, people who love America change unjust laws all the time.

People like you who hate America want to Make America White Again. You see it at every rally that the OTTIFG holds.Does that explain your hatred of America and capitalism?

Xpartan
02-04-22, 21:47
Trump is calling on his most rabid followers to throw violent protests if he gets indicted. No, he's not using the word violent, but just like in his every speech, violence is implied.


If these radical, vicious, racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal, I hope we are going to have in this country the biggest protests we have ever had in Washington, D.C., in New York, in Atlanta and elsewhere.The biggest "we have ever had" so far took place in DC on Jan 6. That "protest" left several people dead and 150 injured. So Trump is tacitly asking his most fervent groupies for even more violence.

Nice.

But that's not all. Apparently hundreds of his supporters who stormed the Capital on Jan 6 are getting prosecuted, right? That's not a problem. "If it requires pardons, we will give them pardons," he says.

Even nicer.

We're talking about the same POS coward who promised on 1/6 to walk with them to the Capital. And who went straight back to the White House instead to enjoy the unfolding mayhem on TV.

The same POS coward who could've given them blank pardon just after the event. What prevented him back then?

The same greedy POS coward who, despite racking up $115 million from his dummy followers, abandoned all his allies including crazy Rudy and pillow guy and left them in a ditch fending off several multibillion dollar lawsuits.

The same immoral POS coward who always demands unlimited loyalty from everyone who serves him, and who's thrown every loyalist under the bus when they've served their purpose.

And now, he's openly blackmailing American justice system with violence while dangling pardons to his worshippers: don't worry, fine people, daddy has your backs.

And there're still tens of millions who trust every word uttered by this lying, thieving, soulless coward.

Well, it's going to be interesting. Scary, but interesting for sure.

ScatManDoo
02-04-22, 22:02
The Sherriff placed the voting machine into his locked evidence room.

The Sherriff then wrote to the White House. Directed to Super-Woman-Attorney Sidney Powell.

The Michigan Sheriff held that voting machine (Hopefully not in cuffs). And he blew up the phones of his neighboring Sherriff, encouraging them to lock-up and secure their foreign-controlled hardware and software.

That dumbass criminal Michigan Sherriff let the White House know that he would wait for them to send their special voter fraud detection forensic team out to inspect the evidence he gathered.

Maybe if TrumpShit had not stiffed his Dream Team of lawyers.

We might have the final report on that confined voting machine's investigative report.

Axel Heyst
02-04-22, 22:55
If you reread my original post, you braid-dead fascist, <snip> Was January 6th "sudden"? It was from the sense that nobody with half a brain thought a rally would amount to anything. Was it violent? Anybody with half a brain who looks at any of the thousands of videos from that day can think otherwise.

Bad joke? Yes, the fascists certainly are.1. Your intolerance and anger is what defines you. What is your problem? Biden won the election. You should be happy with all the "good things he is doing (not). Instead you lash out at everyone who you disagree with. You really need try to get a grip on yourself. This anger and intolerance is a totalitarian, fascistic tendency in your character.

2. Now pay close attention because I know this was not and will not be reported by MSNBC or the left wing internet: On Jan 5 President Trump asked for 10,000 National Guard troops to handle security during his January 6th rally, but he was denied by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. This fact was confirmed by Kash Patel, Acting United States Secretary of Defense at the time, who testified to this fact in front of the anti-Trump House committee investigating the Capitol riot. So the pertinent question is why did Pelosi refuse the National Guard security. It was her sole responsibility as Speaker of the House to call out the National Guard. She refused and is therefor culpable for what followed.

Cali Guy
02-04-22, 22:58
Looks like your tuition-paying parents were ripped off.

1st graders know that 5 is bigger than 3.

And fourth graders know that 7.5 is also greater than 3 or 2.9.

Did you go to grade school and college in the State of California like I did?

My schools had standards and educated the people that attended.Yes I went to school from kindergarten to 12. My schools had the highest standards in San Diego county. My parents didn't have to pay for my education. I went to college on an academic scholarship. I paid my way through school by working while I was attending and did not have any student loans. Unlike you I have a degree and a masters and I am compensated very well at my job at a top USA financial company. With your great school in San Diego did you get an academic scholarship? Did you make a 6 figure salary coming out of college? I wouldn't trade my life with you or anybody.

Xpartan
02-04-22, 23:00
Please show proof from a real news site that shows 140 officers hurt. Or I will just assume you made this up like the rest if your fabricated posts.Please define "a real news site".

Cali Guy
02-04-22, 23:08
OK, the wimps on Wall Street might be terrified by this because, horror of horrors, the Fed will probably need to raise the cost of money somewhere just south of 2 friggin' percent over the next couple of years in order to cool down Biden's roaring economy.

But the classic Great Dem / Biden Economic Recovery, Expansion, Jobs Creation and Long Overdue American Wage Increases continues!

Along with major upward revisions for November and December, as predicted:

Payrolls show surprisingly powerful gain of 467,000 despite omicron surge

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/04/jobs-report-january-2020-.html?__source=androidappshare

Thanks go to Joe, Nancy, Chuck, the Dems and everyone who voted for them.The pandemic reduced the economies of most developed countries by approximately 9.4%. USA was 9.4%. Biden economy is running at 6.6% which means he is 66% of getting the economy back to pre pandemic Trump presidency. Jobs added and people working aren't back to Pre pandemic levels yet.

Biden did nothing and he is trying to take credit for people returning to their old jobs after they were laid off in mostly democratic states due to the closure of business. Biden is trying to take credit for economy because businesses are allowed to reopen now. With no president in the USA these jobs still would have come back and the economy would have gotten better. Biden did nothing and the businesses are returning to normal. But Biden policies are escalating inflation. Anytime the economy starts doing better the leaders need to control inflation. Biden as usual did nothing and denies inflation is a problem.

PVMonger
02-04-22, 23:27
Does that explain your hatred of America and capitalism?It is you and your fellow fascists who hate America and want to make it white again. Every fascist ploy is designed to do exactly that. You hate what America has become. You hate that non-white people, women, immigrants, gays, transgender folks, etcetera want a say in their country. That's really what you fascists are scared of.

America is in danger of becoming a non-white majority and you hate it. You can yell and scream and bloviate but, deep down, you fascists want to go back to when it was OK to own another human being, when black people "knew their place" and when only white, male property owners could vote.

PVMonger
02-04-22, 23:40
Please define "a real news site".I have info from the USDOJ but he probably wouldn't accept that now that Billy "Let me suck the OTTOGF's wee-wee" Barr isn't in charge. https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/one-year-jan-6-attack-capitol.

I also have info from the Police Union but I guarantee that he won't accept that either. https://www.police1.com/officer-safety/articles/police-union-over-140-officers-injured-in-capitol-siege-NSi5xcpt1sIELYvJ/.

Oh, wait. I also have a report from FUX "News" that says the same thing. But something tells me that he won't accept that either due to some technicality. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/capitol-police-threats-members-congress-increased-107-percent-one-year.

Yep, a "real news site" to this fascist is one that says that nobody was hurt and that the attempted coup was just a bunch of antifa clowns dressed up as supporters of the OTTIFD who were tourists and were assisted by police.

PVMonger
02-05-22, 02:41
Feds are going to have to raise rates to try and slow down Biden record inflation. Thanks Joe for high gas prices and high grocery bills. Good news is Biden is making sure oil companies get rich. Oil companies up already this year 20-30%. Between stopping drilling and cancelling pipelines oil production is down so we have to buy from OPEC and Russia at higher prices. Biden supporting oil world wide.Just the same fascist talking points over and over, ad nauseum. Can't you come up with some other material. Material that has even a grain of truth to it?

High gas prices are because of OPEC production, US refinery shutdown and more people traveling. I guess you've never heard of "supply-and-demand". High grocery bills are from the same thing. Do you realize that ranchers are selling beef at a lower price per steer than they were last year? Who is making the money because it sure isn't the ranchers. Could it be the wholesalers or slaughterhouses? Same with farmers.

But I'll answer my own question. You won't come up with more material because it is too hard to think for yourself. It is just easier to parrot what Tucker "Nobody in their right mind should believe anything I say" Carlson.

EihTooms
02-05-22, 03:22
Feds are going to have to raise rates to try and slow down Biden record inflation. Thanks Joe for high gas prices and high grocery bills. Good news is Biden is making sure oil companies get rich. Oil companies up already this year 20-30%. Between stopping drilling and cancelling pipelines oil production is down so we have to buy from OPEC and Russia at higher prices. Biden supporting oil world wide.Uh, yeah, that's what "cooling down Biden's roaring economy" means.

There was no better and more effective way to recover the USA economy from Trump's Great Crash, Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction than to do what Biden and his administration did about it with near zero help from Repubs.

The worldwide Supply-Chain destruction thanks more to Trump's unsurpassed contribution to laying the groundwork for, removing all defences against and promoting the creation of Trump's Pandemic and the historic worldwide economic paralysis that resulted from it was not going to be resolved by waiting into infinity for "brave free market entrepreneurs" to step up to the plate first. That never, never happens.

We needed to put spending money and lots of it into the pockets of consumers who by then needed and wanted to buy a shitload of things they'd done without for almost 2 years.

Then and only then will those "brave free marketers" step up to do whatever it takes to get Supply-Chains funded, staffed, moving and delivering.

Money in pockets first, sellers stepping up to sell after. That's how it works in the real world. Not the other way around. Not ever.

The fact that there is a temporary surge in inflation that isn't even as bad as occurred under Repubs in our adult lifetimes is a minor inconvenience by comparison, easily dealt with by the Fed whenever they feel the time is right.

EihTooms
02-05-22, 03:37
Trump is calling on his most rabid followers to throw violent protests if he gets indicted. No, he's not using the word violent, but just like in his every speech, violence is implied.

The biggest "we have ever had" so far took place in DC on Jan 6. That "protest" left several people dead and 150 injured. So Trump is tacitly asking his most fervent groupies for even more violence.

Nice.

But that's not all. Apparently hundreds of his supporters who stormed the Capital on Jan 6 are getting prosecuted, right? That's not a problem. "If it requires pardons, we will give them pardons," he says.

Even nicer.

We're talking about the same POS coward who promised on 1/6 to walk with them to the Capital. And who went straight back to the White House instead to enjoy the unfolding mayhem on TV.

The same POS coward who could've given them blank pardon just after the event. What prevented him back then?.The words "violence, maiming, killing, stealing, breaking and entering, desecration, attempting to overthrow democracy" etc have all been replaced by near unanimous Republican Party vote with "Legitimate Political Discourse".

Yes, the same Party that voted unanimously in the House to Defund The Police.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republican-party-calls-january-6-attack-legitimate-political-discourse

So much for their now utterly ridiculous phony outrage over shoplifting small items no longer being criminally prosecuted in some cities and states with more pressing matters to address.

ScatManDoo
02-05-22, 03:46
Some times you need an inflexible religious nut at the most unexpected moments in human history.

I am sure that on or around January 6th, that man asked himself: 'What would Jesus do here?

He showed that he was taught correctly.

I doubt that I am the first person to notice or write this.

Axel Heyst
02-05-22, 04:13
It is you and your fellow fascists who hate America and want to make it white again.You are the fascist. You prove it every time you post.

Canada
02-05-22, 14:36
Uh, yeah, that's what "cooling down Biden's roaring economy" means.

There was no better and more effective way to recover the USA economy from Trump's Great Crash, Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction than to do what Biden and his administration did about it with near zero help from Repubs.

The worldwide Supply-Chain destruction thanks more to Trump's unsurpassed contribution to laying the groundwork for, removing all defences against and promoting the creation of Trump's Pandemic and the historic worldwide economic paralysis that resulted from it was not going to be resolved by waiting into infinity for "brave free market entrepreneurs" to step up to the plate first. That never, never happens.

We needed to put spending money and lots of it into the pockets of consumers who by then needed and wanted to buy a shitload of things they'd done without for almost 2 years.

Then and only then will those "brave free marketers" step up to do whatever it takes to get Supply-Chains funded, staffed, moving and delivering..Please explain if the economy is booming under Biden why hasn't it returned to Trump era economy. Still lagging 3% behind with businesses all reopening.

Please explain why less people are working today in Biden economy than in Trump pre pandemic economy.

Please explain why there wasn't inflation under Trump booming economy and Biden economy.

Please explain why Biden cancelled pipelines and cut oil production with his booming economy.

PVMonger
02-05-22, 14:37
You are the fascist. You prove it every time you post.And every time you post, you show that you have absolutely no idea whatsoever what the term "fascist" means. I would have more success teaching my dog what the term means than trying to teach you what it means.

ROFL.

Canada
02-05-22, 14:44
Just the same fascist talking points over and over, ad nauseum. Can't you come up with some other material. Material that has even a grain of truth to it?

High gas prices are because of OPEC production, US refinery shutdown and more people traveling. I guess you've never heard of "supply-and-demand". High grocery bills are from the same thing. Do you realize that ranchers are selling beef at a lower price per steer than they were last year? Who is making the money because it sure isn't the ranchers. Could it be the wholesalers or slaughterhouses? Same with farmers.

But I'll answer my own question. You won't come up with more material because it is too hard to think for yourself. It is just easier to parrot what Tucker "Nobody in their right mind should believe anything I say" Carlson.Please explain. There were more people traveling in pre pandemic world in Trump presidency than today. Oil was $40 a barrel. Now $92. Biden cancels pipelines. Stops drilling permits on federal land. Reduces USA oil production from 12.2 million barrels a day to 11 million. Forces USA to buy more oil from OPEC and Russia. Yes Russia. Creates a shortage of domestic oil. OPEC raises prices because of USA shortages. Biden Begs OPEC to sell more oil to USA and OPEC raises prices again. 2021 oil companies stopped exploration. Biden is totally to blame. He created a shortage and now OPEC is taking advantage of it like they have in the past.

EihTooms
02-05-22, 15:46
Some times you need an inflexible religious nut at the most unexpected moments in human history.

I am sure that on or around January 6th, that man asked himself: 'What would Jesus do here?

He showed that he was taught correctly.

I doubt that I am the first person to notice or write this.Don't fall for it. Naturally, pro Repub Mainstream Media is gushing all over the place about how wonderful Pence "defied Trump", "throwing Trump under the bus" and all that crap.

Pence is just another spineless, America-hating, Trump cultist who would have made every disastrous decision Trump made had he been president.

Pence only said he didn't have the "right" to overturn the election on January 6. That word "right" is the same one conman Trump was using for it only because it sounds as though the cop killing mob he sent to overthrow American democracy was doing something honorable.

And notice Pence didn't say shit about this until someone pointed out to those loons that if their premise was legitimate, Kamala Harris would have the "right" to overturn any election outcome she didn't like in 2024.

No, what Trump, Pence and virtually every other Repub really means is Pence had the "power" to overturn the election. Had it not followed protocal that day, there is a very real possibility it would have been left to a majority of Repub legislators and in the end been settled by a Repub majority SCOTUS. Three guesses how that would have turned out, and the first two don't count.

Why Pence didn't go along with that Repub plan on that day is anybody's guess. But sure as hell Pence's "god" had nothing to do with it.

The Dems in Congress are busy closing that loophole now. Which might be another reason Pence is finally coming out on the "righteous" side of this since no VP in the future will have that one American democracy-hating shot at it anymore anyway.

EihTooms
02-05-22, 16:14
You are the fascist. You prove it every time you post.Not to me he doesn't. PVMonger does a damn good job of thoroughly substantiating every assertion he makes and destroying whatever nonsense he identifies.

PVMonger
02-05-22, 17:23
Capitol Riot Defendant Seeks Subpoena For Trump, Says He 'Directed' Him To Storm Capitol

"A defendant in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the USA Capitol has filed a court brief calling for Donald Trump to be subpoenaed to testify because the accused claims the former president "directed" him and others to storm the Capitol as part of a deceptive plot to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

"It will be established at trial that Mr. Trump and his conspirators engaged in a concerted effort to deceive the public, including Defendant, into believing that American democracy was at stake if Congress was permitted to certify the election," according to the court filing Friday on behalf of Ohio resident Dustin Thompson.

"Defendant submits that the testimony of Mr. Trump and his conspirators will establish that they were determined, by any means necessary, to prevent Congress from fulfilling its constitutional mandate to certify the election results," states the filing in the USA District Court for the District of Columbia.

"In order to accomplish that goal, the conspirators Defendant now seeks to subpoena engaged in a concerted effort to organize, encourage, and direct rally participants to storm the Capitol, enter the grounds, 'fight like hell,' and 'engage in trial by combat," the brief added.

It was all part of a "carefully crafted plot" to call into question the integrity of the 2020 presidential election, according to the filing.

Thompson will also seek to subpoena other "conspirators," including Trump's former personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, onetime White House strategist Steve Bannon, "coup memo" right-wing lawyer John Eastman and Donald Trump Jr.

Thompson has been charged with a number of offenses in the storming of the Capitol, including obstruction of an official proceeding, theft of government property, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds, and disorderly conduct in the Capitol.

In an interview with The Columbus Dispatch shortly after initial charges were filed against Thompson, his attorney, Samuel Shamansky, said his client and others who breached the Capitol "got brainwashed to the point they felt duty bound to follow the encouragement of their commander in chief."

The demand to subpoena Trump faces an uphill battle but is broadening the debate about the former president's role at the center of the Jan. 6 attack on Congress.

Trump could not be reached for comment."

https://news.yahoo.com/capitol-riot-defendant-seeks-subpoena-044227060.html

ScatManDoo
02-05-22, 17:37
Some times you need an inflexible religious nut at the most unexpected moments in human history.A necessary rewrite of that line goes like this:

Sometimes you need an inflexible religious zealot at the most critical times in US history.

Auto correct was giving me grief over the united sates part when I used periods. Changed it to USA.

EihTooms
02-05-22, 19:19
Please explain if the economy is booming under Biden why hasn't it returned to Trump era economy. Still lagging 3% behind with businesses all reopening.

Please explain why less people are working today in Biden economy than in Trump pre pandemic economy.

Please explain why there wasn't inflation under Trump booming economy and Biden economy.

Please explain why Biden cancelled pipelines and cut oil production with his booming economy.Pre Trump's Pandemic? Why count anything regarding Trump "Pre Trump's Pandemic"? His Pandemic was the result of economic decisions made by him.

Why did Trump's economy lag Obama-Biden's economy by millions upon millions of jobs?

Why did Bush2's economy lag Clintons economy by millions upon millions of jobs?

Why did Trump's, Bush2's and Bush1's combined economies lag Biden's economy by millions upon millions of job?

Why did Hoover's, Eisenhower's, Nixon / Ford's, Reagan's, Bush1's, Bush2's and Trump's combined economies lag FDR's, Truman's, JFK / LBJ's, Carter's, Clinton's, Obama's and Biden's combined economies by millions upon millions upon millions of jobs?

You don't get inflation during Great Repub Recessions with measly to zero jobs creation and as brought to the world by Trump, a year of economic paralysis. But you will during Great Dem Recoveries when millions upon millions of jobs are being created in record time, wages are rising and the economy is coming out of its Trump coma with pent up need and desire to buy and travel again.

ScatManDoo
02-05-22, 19:32
Don't fall for it. Naturally, pro Repub Mainstream Media is gushing all over the place about how wonderful Pence "defied Trump", "throwing Trump under the bus" and all that crap.

Pence is just another spineless, America-hating, Trump cultist who would have made every disastrous decision Trump made had he been president.But my last two republican heroes (well, they didn't make me throw-up) were Jack Kemp and (mostly pre-2008) John McCain.

And they're both dead!

PVMonger
02-05-22, 19:38
Please explain. There were more people traveling in pre pandemic world in Trump presidency than today. Oil was $40 a barrel. Now $92. Biden cancels pipelines. Stops drilling permits on federal land. Reduces USA oil production from 12.2 million barrels a day to 11 million. Forces USA to buy more oil from OPEC and Russia. Yes Russia. Creates a shortage of domestic oil. OPEC raises prices because of USA shortages. Biden Begs OPEC to sell more oil to USA and OPEC raises prices again. 2021 oil companies stopped exploration. Biden is totally to blame. He created a shortage and now OPEC is taking advantage of it like they have in the past.I have tried to explain numerous times. The fact the you are too thick-skulled to understand isn't my problem. But, then again, I'd have better luck trying to explain it to my dog. He isn't as thick-skulled. By a huge margin.

ScatManDoo
02-05-22, 19:44
Capitol Riot Defendant Seeks Subpoena For Trump, Says He 'Directed' Him To Storm Capitol

"A defendant in the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the USA Capitol has filed a court brief calling for Donald Trump to be subpoenaed to testify because the accused claims the former president "directed" him and others to storm the Capitol as part of a deceptive plot to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

"It will be established at trial that Mr. Trump and his conspirators engaged in a concerted effort to deceive the public, including Defendant, into believing that American democracy was at stake if Congress was permitted to certify the election," according to the court filing Friday on behalf of Ohio resident Dustin Thompson.

"Defendant submits that the testimony of Mr. Trump and his conspirators will establish that they were determined, by any means necessary, to prevent Congress from fulfilling its constitutional mandate to certify the election results," states the filing in the USA District Court for the District of Columbia.

"In order to accomplish that goal, the conspirators Defendant now seeks to subpoena engaged in a concerted effort to organize, encourage, and direct rally participants to storm the Capitol, enter the grounds, 'fight like hell,' and 'engage in trial by combat," the brief added.

It was all part of a "carefully crafted plot" to call into question the integrity of the 2020 presidential election, according to the filing..The January 6th committee has already interviewed 675 individuals that voluntarily gave direct testimony.

This Trump thug could find hundreds of helpful witnesses for his case if he stopped looking in all the wrong places.

Trump thugs, like the ones on this site, are stupid.

ScatManDoo
02-05-22, 20:01
The demand to subpoena Trump faces an uphill battle but is broadening the debate about the former president's role at the center of the Jan. 6 attack on Congress.

Trump could not be reached for comment."The typical right-wingnut that often posts in this thread might give the following reply to your post:

I'm sure president Trump would be wiling to give voluntary testimony at Dustin Thompson's trial next month.

But he probably will save some time by simply pardoning him right after the reelection in 2024.

EihTooms
02-05-22, 20:48
Doing a rough addition and subtraction by sight, it turns out just the Clinton and Obama economies produced as many if not more USA jobs than the combined economies of all 9 Repub presidents of the past 100 years!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms

That's right, just 2 Dems beat all 9 Repubs in a century of presidential administrations.

A reminder; the Baby Boom generation of working age Americans peaked during the course of two of those Repub administrations, starting at the beginning of Reagan's presidency, they began retiring at a rate of 10,000 per day starting at the beginning of the Obama administration and are continuing to retire in huge numbers today.

Yet, Biden's economy alone has already in its first year produced about 20% of the total number jobs of all the Repub presidents combined since 1922. At that rate he could easily surpass those of all the Repub presidents combined by the end of the first year of his second term!

ScatManDoo
02-05-22, 22:03
One single question:

Do you agree or disagree with giving blanket pardons to all +700 criminally charged defendants from the January 6th insurrection?

I know which way over 90% of you would vote.

Just sayin.

Axel Heyst
02-05-22, 23:35
And every time you post, you show that you have absolutely no idea whatsoever what the term "fascist" means. You are fooling yourself with the sophistry that Fascism is strictly a right-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. National Socialism, and the term can not be used to describe a left-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. Communism. But the extreme Left, Marxism, is essentially the same thing as the extreme right, Fascism. Under both systems there is no individual freedom and you do as your are told or it is prison or death. So tell me what the functional difference between Hitler (responsible for 11 mil dead) and Mao (responsible for 40 to 80 mil dead) was. Hitler started more wars and had a thing for the Jews, but Mao killed and enslaved more people. Or tell me the difference between Mussolini and Pol Pot or Franco and Maduro, or Franco and the Castro brothers. The only functional difference I see is that Marxists are usually better organized than Fascists.

The fundamental difference between you and me is I love freedom and hate all forms of totalitarian rule while you only hate right wing totalitarian regimes. In fact, you are so Marxist radical (Fascist) that you even hate moderate or right of center democratic forms of government that support free speech and the right to own property. You hate any form of government that is not avowedly socialist and / or Marxist. And you call anyone who disagrees with the Woke Party dogma a Fascist and Racist. Ha! Like I said earlier, you are a bad joke because you are the Racist, Fascist among us.

Let's Go Brandon!

ScatManDoo
02-05-22, 23:54
Don't fall for it. Naturally, pro Repub Mainstream Media is gushing all over the place about how wonderful Pence "defied Trump", "throwing Trump under the bus" and all that crap.

Pence is just another spineless, America-hating, Trump cultist who would have made every disastrous decision Trump made had he been president.I don't agree.

Trump is shitloads slimier than Pence.

ScatManDoo
02-06-22, 00:50
Yes I went to school from kindergarten to 12. My schools had the highest standards in San Diego county. My parents didn't have to pay for my education. I went to college on an academic scholarship. I paid my way through school by working while I was attending and did not have any student loans. Unlike you I have a degree and a masters and I am compensated very well at my job at a top USA financial company. With your great school in San Diego did you get an academic scholarship? Did you make a 6 figure salary coming out of college? I wouldn't trade my life with you or anybody.For someone with adequate reading comprehension, as you claim to have.

Where the fuck did I write that I went to school in San Diego?

Show me where someone didn't waste tuition money on you!

ScatManDoo
02-06-22, 01:10
Please explain why less people are working today in Biden economy than in Trump pre pandemic economy.I don't understand why you would have trouble answering your own question. But I will give it a go.

TrumpShit performed the worst management of the United States in a single year of presidency ever in the final year of his single (twice impeached) term.

He thoroughly and completely mismanaged the nations' response to the Covid-19 outbreak.

Which turned into a pandemic in TrumpShit's final year, eliminating, I think, more than six million jobs.

After one year in office, Joe Biden had the greatest single year of job growth recorded in recent or all years.

But he didn't get back all the millions of jobs TrumpShit killed in 2020.

Simple answer really.

But you couldn't figure it out Canada?

ScatManDoo
02-06-22, 01:58
Pre Trump's Pandemic? Why count anything regarding Trump "Pre Trump's Pandemic"? His Pandemic was the result of economic decisions made by him.

Why did Trump's economy lag Obama-Biden's economy by millions upon millions of jobs?

Why did Bush2's economy lag Clintons economy by millions upon millions of jobs?

Why did Trump's, Bush2's and Bush1's combined economies lag Biden's economy by millions upon millions of job?

Why did Hoover's, Eisenhower's, Nixon / Ford's, Reagan's, Bush1's, Bush2's and Trump's combined economies lag FDR's, Truman's, JFK / LBJ's, Carter's, Clinton's, Obama's and Biden's combined economies by millions upon millions upon millions of jobs?I think it is because republican administrations perform much poorer economically than democratic administrations.

But republican politicians have their supporters (like those that post here) suckered into believing untruths on this issue.

ScatManDoo
02-06-22, 02:45
During the January 6th insurrection rioting there were 140 police officer injured.

Which specific BLM protest had more than a dozen officers injured?

I think there was no BLM protest even come close.

In all the BLM protests of years 2020 and 2021 combined, how many police officers were injured?


Please show proof from a real news site that shows 140 officers hurt. Or I will just assume you made this up like the rest if your fabricated posts.Are you serious Canada?

Are the sources you rely on for genuine news so narrow that you missed the Police Unions statements that were made in late January 2021?

The Police unions reported that 81 Capital Police Officers were assaulted and injured during the siege of the Capital. According to the Police Officer's Union an additional 65 District of Columbia Police Officers were also injured in the rioting that occurred outside and inside our Capital on January 6th. Other LE agencies also experienced and reported some injuries to their officers.

In Mainstream media I recall this being verified and being one of the most covered news stories in early February 2021. My guess is this was verified and covered by thousands of traditional news agencies.

Yet it is a surprise to you Canada?

What did you do Canada during the month of February 2021 other than read a short stack of Archies Comics?

Canada
02-06-22, 02:53
I don't understand why you would have trouble answering your own question. But I will give it a go.

TrumpShit performed the worst management of the United States in a single year of presidency ever in the final year of his single (twice impeached) term.

He thoroughly and completely mismanaged the nations' response to the Covid-19 outbreak.

Which turned into a pandemic in TrumpShit's final year, eliminating, I think, more than six million jobs.

After one year in office, Joe Biden had the greatest single year of job growth recorded in recent or all years.

But he didn't get back all the millions of jobs TrumpShit killed in 2020.

Simple answer really.

But you couldn't figure it out Canada?I guess you don't understand anything. The pandemic killed 6 million jobs in USA and killed jobs in every country. It did not matter if it was a Republicans President or a doctor in a communist country. Every country lost jobs. Not because of their leader but because the Chinese pandemic killed every country in the world economy. Because 2/3 of the people went to work world wide it was not because of their leader. Biden has done nothing and two thirds of the people returned to their jobs. Simple.

Canada
02-06-22, 02:58
I have tried to explain numerous times. The fact the you are too thick-skulled to understand isn't my problem. But, then again, I'd have better luck trying to explain it to my dog. He isn't as thick-skulled. By a huge margin.Can you understand when Biden creates a shortage of anything the price goes up?

Can you understand when USA production goes down that OPEC is going to take advantage of us.

It does not matter what commodity if there is a shortage prices go up.

That is why we have to drill our way out of this.

PVMonger
02-06-22, 03:03
You are fooling yourself with the sophistry that Fascism is strictly a right-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. National Socialism, and the term can not be used to describe a left-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. Communism. But the extreme Left, Marxism, is essentially the same thing as the extreme right, Fascism. Under both systems there is no individual freedom and you do as your are told or it is prison or death. So tell me what the functional difference between Hitler (responsible for 11 mil dead) and Mao (responsible for 40 to 80 mil dead) was. Hitler started more wars and had a thing for the Jews, but Mao killed and enslaved more people. Or tell me the difference between Mussolini and Pol Pot or Franco and Maduro, or Franco and the Castro brothers. The only functional difference I see is that Marxists are usually better organized than Fascists.Not only don't you know what fascism is, you evidently don't know what communism is either. I suspect that your fellow wingers don't know either. Like your other wingers, I'd have better luck getting my dog to understand the differences than getting any winger to understand the differences.

Though ignorant rightwingnuts claim that communism and fascism are two sides of the same coin, they are different in their ideology and other aspects. Communism is a socio economic system that stands for a class-less, state-less and an egalitarian society. Fascism is an ideology that tries to bring together radical and authoritarian nationalism. You know, like Make America Great Again. I realize that you don't know what nationalism is either but I can only try to educate you on one topic at a time.

Fascism became popular between 1919 and 1945 and originally referred to the Fascists under Benito Mussolini. Communism became popular after the Bolshevik Revolution of Russia in 1917. The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels is considered to be the bible of communism. The authoritative document of Fascism is "The Doctrine of Fascism" which was written by Mussolini. You should read it sometime. It isn't very long and doesn't contain many bigly words. You'd find that it almost perfectly describes the rightwingnut philosophy, especially when it comes to religion.

Communism stands for a state-less society where all are equal. No one is rich or poor in a communist system (in theory). In practice, though, that falls apart. In Communism, it is the community that holds the production and the major resources. On the other hand, Fascism pertains to state and it considers state on top of everything. In fascism the state is all embracing. For the fascists, no human values exist outside the state. Look at what is currently happening when someone criticizes the one-term, twice-impeached former guy. They get cancelled. Fascism believes that everything is within the State and nothing is above the State or outside the State or against the State. Fascism believes in nationalism (includes economic nationalism), corporatism (includes economic planning), militarism and totalitarianism (dictatorship and social interventionism), again just like MAGA did. The only difference between fascist Trumpism and traditional fascism is that the OTTIFG didn't like war. But he sure did like the trappings of it like military parades.

The Communists think globally where as the Fascists think only in a national level.

In communism, the state is the custodian of everything and it is the state that owns everything. On the other hand, in Fascism, the state has control over everything. In simple words, Communism means state ownership and fascism means state control.

Fascism is derived from Italian "fascio" meaning bundle. Actually, "fascio" is close to "fiasco" which is what we had under the OTTIFG. Communism comes from French "communisme", meaning common.

So no, communism and fascism aren't two sides of the same coin. They are vastly different and only an idiot would consider them similar. And, no, you don't love "freedom". What you love is the freedom to own and demean another person and the freedom to hate someone who isn't white and straight and male. And every supporter of the OTTIFG that I know is exactly like you.

EihTooms
02-06-22, 03:19
I don't agree.

Trump is shitloads slimier than Pence.Of course, he is. That's why Trump was at the top of the Repub Party ticket and Pence was next in line. Trump would never have chosen him as his VP if he wasn't adept at conning Repub suckers with a carefully chosen word or two.

PVMonger
02-06-22, 03:19
Yes I went to school from kindergarten to 12. My schools had the highest standards in San Diego county. My parents didn't have to pay for my education. I went to college on an academic scholarship. I paid my way through school by working while I was attending and did not have any student loans. Unlike you I have a degree and a masters and I am compensated very well at my job at a top USA financial company. With your great school in San Diego did you get an academic scholarship? Did you make a 6 figure salary coming out of college? I wouldn't trade my life with you or anybody.And yet, with your Master's Degree and your well-compensated-more-than-six-figure job at a top financial company, you still would recommend that a client should take FUX "News" (with 3 MM viewers) free commercial placement over CBS News' same offer (with 5 MM viewers) because 3 million is greater than 5 million?

Somebody is ripping off the company for which you work and I think it is you. Anybody who believes that 3 million is greater than 5 million isn't worthy of a 3rd grade graduation certificate, much less a Masters Degree. And a 6-figure salary? ROFL.

EihTooms
02-06-22, 03:45
The Radical Left is the same as Radical Right

You are fooling yourself with the sophistry that Fascism is strictly a right-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. National Socialism, and the term can not be used to describe a left-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. Communism. But the extreme Left, Marxism, is essentially the same thing as the extreme right, Fascism. Under both systems there is no individual freedom and you do as your are told or it is prison or death. So tell me what the functional difference between Hitler (responsible for 11 mil dead) and Mao (responsible for 40 to 80 mil dead) was. Hitler started more wars and had a thing for the Jews, but Mao killed and enslaved more people. Or tell me the difference between Mussolini and Pol Pot or Franco and Maduro, or Franco and the Castro brothers. The only functional difference I see is that Marxists are usually better organized than Fascists.There is no Dem counterpart to the Repubs' decades long and current efforts to suppress, inhibit, reduce and prevent voting, selectively toss out or count votes, attempting by any means necessary including deadly violence to overturn free and fair elections.

And we're not even talking about a "Radical" anything. That is the goal of Mainstream Repubs. Get censured and culture cancelled by almost unanimous congressional Repub vote for daring to suggest otherwise.

This isn't about Hitler vs Mao, Mussolini vs Pol Pot or any of that. It's about Trump / Repubs vs Biden / Dems. And all the future Repub vs Dem elections.

The ol' Bothsiderism on that point won't work with anyone who isn't a Trump / Repub cult member.

PVMonger
02-06-22, 05:18
"Dec. 14,2020 was a heady day for Arizona Republicans. Despite the fact that their candidate Donald Trump had been defeated in Arizona, despite the fact that his defeat had been certified by the state's governor, Doug Ducey, in late November, there was a sense of jocularity in the air. This was the prevailing spirit as 11 Republicans gathered around an ordinary conference table to blithely falsify the results of their fellow Arizonans' votes and summarily disenfranchise 1,672,143 of their fellow citizens, who had voted for the election's lawful winner.

The Wannsee-like informality of the proceedings was underscored by the presence of water bottles and coffee cups, the latter hastily moved aside as a young man in a jogging outfit passed out white sheets of paper. The papers were copies of the fraudulent, collective statement of the group. He sidestepped not one but two American flags (one draped on a wall and covering some unsightly electrical cords painted a sickly yellow) as he placed before each participant the paper they would all sign, betraying their fellow citizens with a staid disregard that one could only describe as banal.

But unlike their German counterparts of 1942, these attendees—several of whom were sporting baseball caps accompanying their business casual attire, many with wedding bands and diamond rings shining as they clasped their little white plastic pens—chose, in their unbridled enthusiasm, to make a visual record of their treachery. Before a piece of drywall papered with the red-lettered emblem of the Republican Party of Arizona, each of the eight men and three women leaned forward, clasping their hands, some nodding and smiling as the document was read out aloud to them in order to dispel any doubt about what it was they were doing.

Meanwhile, the camera, held by an unknown operator, captured the moment in all its treachery, embedding all of the participants (one partially masked, the others boldly free of such trifles) in its pitiless, digital sweep.

After the recitation, each of the participants expressed their approval of the proceedings with a seemingly spontaneous, heartfelt exhibition of polite applause. As explained in this USA Today article from January:

By state statute, the only electors who mattered were those pledged to cast their votes for President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, as they did Dec. 14, 2020, at noon.
The document the Republicans signed, obtained from the National Archives last year by the group American Oversight, overlooked that detail.

It described the “undersigned” as the “duly elected and qualified Electors for President and Vice President of the United States of America from the State of Arizona …”

That they were neither “elected” nor “qualified” by the irredeemable and inconvenient fact that their candidate had lost the election seems to be completely absent from their concerns. After all, they had fulfilled their task. Their sense of accomplishment is as visible as it was palpable.

Because they had, in fact, accomplished something. In their starched shirts, sport jackets, pressed blouses, and all of the accompanying certitude and propriety those things manifest, they managed—in a matter of mere minutes—to betray not only their fellow Arizonans, but also their country and everything it has tried to represent and aspire to over the past two and a half centuries.

The importance of that moment seemed strangely lost on them. But no matter. The video will always exist to tell the story.

Here's the article: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2078464?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=Sendible&utm_campaign=RSS&fbclid=IwAR065kujYLaZzMDFi7y5r4z1JOwzYXQoKcPx7I8jTHGG7DJMMaBEVgPYWlk.

And, for the fascists wingers who will say that this didn't happen, here's the video that the morons made of themselves: https://twitter.com/HelenKennedy/status/1489010079932329987?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1489010079932329987%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2022%2F2%2F3%2F2078464%2F-It-isn-t-often-a-political-party-actually-videotapes-themselves-committing-treachery.

Xpartan
02-06-22, 05:20
The Radical Left is the same as Radical Right.

You are fooling yourself with the sophistry that Fascism is strictly a right-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. National Socialism, and the term can not be used to describe a left-wing authoritative, coercive, nationalistic system of government, e. G. Communism. But the extreme Left, Marxism, is essentially the same thing as the extreme right, Fascism. Under both systems there is no individual freedom and you do as your are told or it is prison or death. So tell me what the functional difference between Hitler (responsible for 11 mil dead) and Mao (responsible for 40 to 80 mil dead) was. Hitler started more wars and had a thing for the Jews, but Mao killed and enslaved more people. Or tell me the difference between Mussolini and Pol Pot or Franco and Maduro, or Franco and the Castro brothers. The only functional difference I see is that Marxists are usually better organized than Fascists.Well, well, it's actually even worse. If we apply your theory ("the Radical Left is the same as Radical Right") to the world history of the 20th century, I'll be the first to tell you that Mussolini wasn't nearly as bad as Pol Pot who exterminated 25% of his own people. Franco wasn't nearly as horrific as Lenin, Salazar was a saint compared to Stalin, and all military juntas in the world, Greece, Chile, Brazil or Argentina, all of them have failed to produce even the tiniest fraction of Mao's body count. Hitler's ultra-right regime was an outlier in the 20th century mayhem. The violence was mostly owned by the Left back then.

How am I doing so far? Want to thank me for helping you make this argument? You're welcome.

Now I get back to these USA Of A. With your permission.

In the 2022 USA The radical left are MUCH WORSE than the radical right.

The proof's in the pudding as the adage goes. The radical right have been responsible for 75% terrorist acts in the latest years, while the radical left. For 25%.

I despise extremists of all kinds, but your statement is utterly inaccurate.

Disagree?

Here is just one link, but to a very reputable publication. If you search, you'll find many more.

In America, far-right terrorist plots have outnumbered far-left ones in 2020, and this is American Politics after all.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/10/27/in-america-far-right-terrorist-plots-have-outnumbered-far-left-ones-in-2020

ScatManDoo
02-06-22, 06:45
No, what Trump, Pence and virtually every other Repub really means is Pence had the "power" to overturn the election. Had it not followed protocal that day, there is a very real possibility it would have been left to a majority of Repub legislators and in the end been settled by a Repub majority SCOTUS. Three guesses how that would have turned out, and the first two don't count.

Why Pence didn't go along with that Repub plan on that day is anybody's guess. But sure as hell Pence's "god" had nothing to do with it.Well I don't agree with you Eih Tooms on this one point.

I just keep visualizing Pence, during his January 5th (maybe half day?) long visit to the White House that morning and afternoon, before the rioting the following day.

I imagine Mike Pence being repeatedly body slammed by a dozen or so Fat-Bellied Trump Weebles, trying to bring Pence down. Down to their levels.

With Pence digging deep in his soul for guidance from what or whom he trusted most.

A real Christian would not deny the people their earned and delivered vote.

Well, at least I'd like to believe a real Christian would do what Mike Pence did.

I guess it might be a fictional dream I have about Christians.

I frankly would not have that confidence in many self-proclaimed Christians, Jews or Muslims that I know personally.

Xpartan
02-06-22, 07:43
In the 2022 USA The radical left are MUCH WORSE than the radical right.

The proof's in the pudding as the adage goes. The radical right have been responsible for 75% terrorist acts in the latest years, while the radical left. For 25%.



https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/10/27/in-america-far-right-terrorist-plots-have-outnumbered-far-left-ones-in-2020I meant the other way around of course. The radical right are MUCH WORSE than the radical left.

Elvis 2008
02-06-22, 07:54
Please explain. There were more people traveling in pre pandemic world in Trump presidency than today. Oil was $40 a barrel. Now $92. Biden cancels pipelines. Stops drilling permits on federal land. Reduces USA oil production from 12.2 million barrels a day to 11 million. Forces USA to buy more oil from OPEC and Russia. Yes Russia. Creates a shortage of domestic oil. OPEC raises prices because of USA shortages. Biden Begs OPEC to sell more oil to USA and OPEC raises prices again. 2021 oil companies stopped exploration. Biden is totally to blame. He created a shortage and now OPEC is taking advantage of it like they have in the past.Yeah, I live in Texas, and oil workers are finally being hired back. If Trump were president and prices were this high, we would have seen this move months if not a year ago. I was out in the Pecos region back when it was exploding. I had never seen such a boom town. Thing is that Pecos was the tip of the iceberg. They did not even pipeline capacity to send out all the oil and some natural gas sadly had to be flared off.

There is no doubt that this president hates oil and gas. Everyone knows it. He wants the industry gone and because of that, the banks will not lend and the oil companies will not go back to hiring like they were. Canada, you are totally right, and PV monger is totally wrong. Biden is such an ass he even says climate change will promote jobs.

There is a lot of political exaggeration out there, but if Trump were still president, oil and gasoline would be half the price of what it is now. Period. The good thing about this is energy driven inflation leads to higher interest rates, and that is going to be what does in Biden. All these Dems are posting these economic numbers are ignoring how much the Fed increased its balance sheet and how much more the government went into debt. Oil production increased under Obama, and he knew the economics. He talked climate change but did not demonize oil companies. We have plenty of oil, and if we had a president that did not demonize the industry, we would be so much better off.

This is the worst energy policy since Nixon and Carter, and those polices led to a horrific economic mess. Biden's Covid policies are really annoying, but his energy policies are beyond stupid and they are going to do him in.

PVMonger
02-06-22, 15:24
Can you understand when Biden creates a shortage of anything the price goes up?

Can you understand when USA production goes down that OPEC is going to take advantage of us.

It does not matter what commodity if there is a shortage prices go up.

That is why we have to drill our way out of this.Gee, you understand "supply and demand" and yet somehow you don't know that the laws of supply and demand are universal. Shortages happen all the time. Was there a shortage of PPE during the pandemic? Was that Biden's fault? What about the shortage of TP? Was that Biden's fault too?

The only thing that needs drilling is your head to relieve the pressure. But, since there isn't anything there, oil people would call it a "dry hole".

Axel Heyst
02-06-22, 15:37
In the 2022 USA The radical left are MUCH WORSE than the radical right. <snip>
I meant the other way around of course. I thought it was a Freudian slip. KKK.

I don't know what radical right wing terrorist activity in 2022 you are referring to, but yeah, Antifa and BLM have been relatively quiet since they did their job in getting Biden elected in 2020. BTW, Black Lives Matter has halted their online fundraising after after attorneys general in California and Washington state demanded the group submit delinquent financial disclosures for 2020.

ScatManDoo
02-06-22, 17:06
During the January 6th insurrection rioting there were 140 police officer injured.

Which specific BLM protest had more than a dozen officers injured?

I think there was no BLM protest even come close.

In all the BLM protests of years 2020 and 2021 combined, how many police officers were injured?

Please show proof from a real news site that shows 140 officers hurt. Or I will just assume you made this up like the rest if your fabricated posts.Are you serious Canada?

Are the sources you rely on for genuine news so narrow that you missed the Police Unions statements that were made in late January 2021?

The Police unions reported that 81 Capital Police Officers were assaulted and injured during the siege of the Capital. According to the Police Officer's Union an additional 65 District of Columbia Police Officers were also injured in the rioting that occurred outside and inside our Capital on January 6th. Other LE agencies also experienced and reported some injuries to their officers.

In Mainstream media I recall this being verified and being one of the most covered news stories in early February 2921. My guess is this was verified and covered by thousands of traditional news agencies.

Yet it is a surprise to you Canada?

What did you do Canada during the month of February 2021 other than read a short stack of Archies Comics?

Canada
02-06-22, 17:16
I meant the other way around of course. The radical right are MUCH WORSE than the radical left.You were right on your first post. Don't be bullied to lie about it being the other way around. Your first instinct's are always correct.

PVMonger
02-06-22, 18:16
Yeah, I live in Texas, and oil workers are finally being hired back. If Trump were president and prices were this high, we would have seen this move months if not a year ago. I was out in the Pecos region back when it was exploding. I had never seen such a boom town. Thing is that Pecos was the tip of the iceberg. They did not even pipeline capacity to send out all the oil and some natural gas sadly had to be flared off.

There is no doubt that this president hates oil and gas. Everyone knows it. He wants the industry gone and because of that, the banks will not lend and the oil companies will not go back to hiring like they were. Canada, you are totally right, and PV monger is totally wrong. Biden is such an ass he even says climate change will promote jobs.

There is a lot of political exaggeration out there, but if Trump were still president, oil and gasoline would be half the price of what it is now. Period. The good thing about this is energy driven inflation leads to higher interest rates, and that is going to be what does in Biden. All these Dems are posting these economic numbers are ignoring how much the Fed increased its balance sheet and how much more the government went into debt. Oil production increased under Obama, and he knew the economics. He talked climate change but did not demonize oil companies. We have plenty of oil, and if we had a president that did not demonize the industry, we would be so much better off..All of the experts say that you are full of it. But hey, what do they know? They're less informed than FUX "News" and their talking heads, right? "It's not the government that is banning them from drilling more. It's pressure from their shareholders," says an analyst from Raymond James. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/10/energy/oil-gas-prices-joe-biden/index.html.

The analyst's position is echoed by Forbes. https://www.forbes.com/sites/daneberhart/2021/11/13/why-are-oil-prices-so-high-when-the-us-remains-one-of-the-worlds-largest-producers/?sh=747e2363ddfc And by the Business Standard https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/explained-why-are-crude-oil-prices-high-and-any-relief-in-sight-122012500016_1.html.

But, hey, they're only experts and our resident fascists know everything. Just ask them.

And if you think that the OTTIFG was loved by the oil and gas industry, read the following from a Texas publication. The title of the article is Can Biden Really Be Any Worse for the Oil Patch Than Trump? https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/biden-oil-industry-keystone-pipeline-drilling-ban/.

So, in essence, this is more bloviation by our resident, I-am-a-legend-in-my-own-mind fascists.

Cali Guy
02-06-22, 19:16
Finally Biden can take credit for something in his first year of his presidency. Biden had more police killed in line of duty than any other president in history. It will probably be a campaign slogan for him in 2024.

Xpartan
02-07-22, 00:35
Yeah, I live in Texas, and oil workers are finally being hired back. If Trump were president and prices were this high, we would have seen this move months if not a year ago. I was out in the Pecos region back when it was exploding. I had never seen such a boom town. Thing is that Pecos was the tip of the iceberg. They did not even pipeline capacity to send out all the oil and some natural gas sadly had to be flared off.

There is no doubt that this president hates oil and gas. Everyone knows it. He wants the industry gone and because of that, the banks will not lend and the oil companies will not go back to hiring like they were. Canada, you are totally right, and PV monger is totally wrong. Biden is such an ass he even says climate change will promote jobs.

There is a lot of political exaggeration out there, but if Trump were still president, oil and gasoline would be half the price of what it is now. Period. The good thing about this is energy driven inflation leads to higher interest rates, and that is going to be what does in Biden. All these Dems are posting these economic numbers are ignoring how much the Fed increased its balance sheet and how much more the government went into debt. Oil production increased under Obama, and he knew the economics. He talked climate change but did not demonize oil companies. We have plenty of oil, and if we had a president that did not demonize the industry, we would be so much better off.

This is the worst energy policy since Nixon and Carter, and those polices led to a horrific economic mess. Biden's Covid policies are really annoying, but his energy policies are beyond stupid and they are going to do him in.And here we go again. Our indomitable Elvis is back at it. Bringing to the table a metric ton of the same stinky rotten baloney that already went bad back in 2020 and should've been discarded even before.

When the economy is bad gas prices trend down.

When the economy is good gas trends up.

When there is peace gas trends down.

When there are tensions gas trends up.

Of course, the complete picture would be more complex and intricate, but what part of it's economy stupid do you not understand?

Here is a moron who Elvis is trying to emulate.

Hannity gets humiliated by his OWN guest on his OWN show.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1482184984261582849

ScatManDoo
02-07-22, 01:59
KKK.Talk about your Freudian slip.

HaHaHa, jajaja.

EihTooms
02-07-22, 03:32
I think it is because republican administrations perform much poorer economically than democratic administrations.

But republican politicians have their supporters (like those that post here) suckered into believing untruths on this issue.Exactly correct. And it was already abundantly clear to anyone not sound asleep that Republican economic policies are not designed to expand the economy and create jobs at all, far from it, by the middle of Ronald Reagan's first presidential term.

See, Republican Party economic policies are all about catering to the election donor class in the top income brackets at the expense of everyone else in the country. That has been the agenda of that Party since the Industrial Revolution. And anyone who knows anything about those falsely proclaimed "job creators", the very dead last thing any of them want to do is hire more employees to help make them wealthier. They will only do it kicking and screaming in protest.

Consequently, the Republican Party economic philosophy and agenda is NOT to expand the economy in a way that creates more rather than far, far less jobs than their Democratic Party counterparts.

This Supply-Side / Trickle-Down con job was not really Reagan's idea, although he is the one every subsequent Republican president proudly proclaims to be following. No, Reagan was using Republican Calvin Coolidge as his model. Yep, "Silent Cal", exactly 100 years ago. His is the model for all Republicans ever since for how to deal with the USA economy and Republican Hoover was their model for when their Coolidge format goes horribly wrong for the economy and jobs, as it always does, for how to do everything possible to make it worse.

See, VP Coolidge unexpectedly took over from Republican Harding, which was then the most corrupt presidential administration of all time. Let's say Coolidge was the "Pence" of his day. Possibly just a gullible, useful idiot, possibly as corrupt as the man who appointed him VP, who knows. Who cares. The thing is he wasn't as corrupt as his now dead boss, but he had no idea what the fuck to do about the economy or anything else.

So what did he do? He just cut taxes for the top income margins and corporations and went fishing. For Reagan it was do that same thing and go riding his ponies. For Bush2 it was do that and go "clearin' brush down to the ranch. " For Trump it was do that and take huge numbers of people to his failed golf resorts at taxpayers' expense.

They all wanted the same "look" and Mainstream Media support Coolidge got for essentially doing nothing, certainly nothing good for the underlying USA economy. Coolidge put a lot of hot windfall money into the hands of already wealthy people who for the next 3-4 years threw it at the stock market. The "Roaring 20's" only roared for the top elite. And Mainstream Media loved it. All those old films of guys in tuxedos and girls in flapper dresses dancing and popping champagne corks? Lovely. But that was definitely not what American farmers and the millions more living in rural America were doing at the time. No sirree.

So when all the crap the elite were throwing their hot windfall Coolidge money at in the stock market was finally revealed not to be supported in the least by a solid real underlying economy, we had the Great Repub Crash and Depression.

But Coolidge had just left office by then, dodging all the pain from his classic and now template model Do Nothing Republican Party economic philosophy and agenda. The Dream Scenario for every Repub president ever since.

When somebody like Clinton, Obama and now Biden comes along and caters to the middle and lower income brackets, to put money in their pockets first and then force the corporations and business to do what they hate to do and will only do kicking and screaming in protest, which is to hire more employees to handle the buying from massive numbers of new customers, yep, often triggering a bit of temporary inflation along the way, they are always characterized as great evils by the dumb suckers who might not even know which side they are really serving in all this.

Elvis 2008
02-07-22, 04:19
Here is a moron who Elvis is trying to emulate.

Hannity gets humiliated by his OWN guest on his OWN show.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1482184984261582849Well, at least, I know where you got this trash from.


When the economy is bad gas prices trend down.

When the economy is good gas trends up.

When there is peace gas trends down.

When there are tensions gas trends up.

Of course, the complete picture would be more complex and intricate, but what part of it's economy stupid do you not understand?Thing about arguing with you Democratic is that you never admit you are wrong. The three worst economic periods in my life were preceded by high oil prices and the best times occurred when oil prices were low and stayed that way. But we got one of you douches saying the economy was great under Carter.

Funny how my view matches up with the facts, Xpartan, and yours does not. https://www.statista.com/statistics/262858/change-in-opec-crude-oil-prices-since-1960/.

But we will soon found out who is right.

ScatManDoo
02-07-22, 04:38
See, VP Coolidge unexpectedly took over from Republican Harding, which was then the most corrupt presidential administration of all time. Let's say Coolidge was the "Pence" of his day. Possibly just a gullible, useful idiot, possibly as corrupt as the man who appointed him VP, who knows. Who cares. The thing is he wasn't as corrupt as his now dead boss, but he had no idea what the fuck to do about the economy or anything else.

So what did he do? He just cut taxes for the top income margins and corporations and went fishing. For Reagan it was do that same thing and go riding his ponies. For Bush2 it was do that and go "clearin' brush down to the ranch. " For Trump it was do that and take huge numbers of people to his failed golf resorts at taxpayers' expense.

They all wanted the same "look" and Mainstream Media support Coolidge got for essentially doing nothing.So I guess you are saying that Pence is just like Coolidge.

And even though most republicans only fuck up the economy and make things worse.

Calvin Coolidge was the only republican in the twentieth century that had verifiable great numbers for his term's results (Better even than Clinton and Obama, but just not as good as Biden's first year).

Let's hope that the 2024 Presidential election comes down to a choice between Pence and Biden.

With expectations that either one of them might turn out good economic times.

OK.

My guess is only one of them is going to lock-up in jail all the song writers that write with lyrics containing dirty words.

ScatManDoo
02-07-22, 05:29
The media (both left-slanted and right-slanted) in recent articles has been predicting a large red wave result for the mid-term elections in 2022.

With the republican party acting Super-Trump-Stupid, I'm not so sure the 2022 elections will turn out bad for the democrats.

There has been betting talk in this thread about placing wagers whether Donald Trump gets jailtime, or escapes it.

I am not interested in a bet that may not be settled for years.

Beside, my gut tells me that TrumpShit can eventually get convicted, only to escape extradition to Argentina, or Russia, or probably somewhere sunnier.

The loser planned a nearly successful coup in less than 60 days.

As a long-time criminal, I'm sure he's been planning his clean get away for a much longer time.

Back to the terms of the proposed bet:

I think the democrats will most likely pick up one or two Senate seats in the 2022 midterms.

But that's a very risky bet, and not the one I want to make.

Right now the Democrats have 48 Senate seats. The Democrats currently caucus with Independent Angus King and Social-Democrat Bernie Sanders.

That gives them 50 Senate votes, and a controlling like majority in the Senate with Vice President Kamala Harris.

I am willing to bet that in the November 2022 midterms the Democrats maintain majority control of the Senate.

I bet the Democrats don't lose a seat and that republicans won't get more than 50 Senate seats resulting from the 2022 midterms.

I can receive or send payment on either Zelle or Venmo.

I don't think an intermediary needs to hold our stakes.

For even odds I am willing to bet $500, and if someone wants only part of the action, that will work.

ScatManDoo
02-07-22, 13:39
After several people involved in the counting of the votes have claimed voter fraud in the election Republicans are trying to do a recount which they are entitled to. The democrats are trying to block it in every way. Letters to the editor in local newspapers today are demanding that they do not do a recount. I know several people on this site don't want a recount or investigation either. If I was accused of wrongdoing and had done nothing wrong I would welcome an audit and prove my innocence. Why are the democrats trying to block this if they are innocent or if there is no wrong doing. Why is it when democrats are accused of anything they don't want to be investigated? They are scared the truth will come out. Only a guilty party would refuse evidence. If there was no fraud then just let them recount. If there was fraud keep fighting the recount.You wrote this blabber nine months ago in in May.

What blather to you spew now after so many recounts found no evidence of democrats stealing elections?

Look to the republicans that used to darken the White House's doors.

Where there is evidence of election stealing.

PVMonger
02-07-22, 15:54
Well, at least, I know where you got this trash from.

Thing about arguing with you Democratic is that you never admit you are wrong. The three worst economic periods in my life were preceded by high oil prices and the best times occurred when oil prices were low and stayed that way. But we got one of you douches saying the economy was great under Carter.

Funny how my view matches up with the facts, Xpartan, and yours does not. https://www.statista.com/statistics/262858/change-in-opec-crude-oil-prices-since-1960/.

But we will soon found out who is right.First, you give us a link but, unsurprisingly, nobody (at least not I) can access it.

Second, you don't specify which years were your "worst economic periods" or "best economic periods". I guess the good news is that you aren't claiming that 3 million is greater than 5 million.

But maybe you'll say that mortgage rates were lower under Reagan than they are today.

EihTooms
02-07-22, 18:01
But we got one of you douches saying the economy was great under Carter.
...Thanks for providing further evidence for my point in my previous post here. Well, of course, you hated Carter. Carter was a champion USA jobs creator. One of the top 2-3 best of all time.

But his overall economy was not Great in the way it was under LBJ, Clinton, Obama and now Biden. It's just that his jobs creation results and tax policies were objectively more effective for growing a real economy than those of Hoover, Eisenhower, Nixon / Ford, Reagan, Bush1, Bush2 and certainly Trump. Yeah, I'll even include Coolidge despite his higher average annual percentage of job gains during his 5 years in office since many millions more jobs than were created were wiped out starting less than 1 year after he got out without his successor, Repub Hoover, changing one thing legislatively, proving Coolidge's policies were nothing but a smoke and mirror disaster. Wiped out all the impressive stock market gains Coolidge presided over too.

I'm guessing you dearly loved the presidents whose USA jobs creation results were either simply inferior to Carter's or downright spectacularly godawful like Eisenhower, Reagan, Bush1, Bush2 and Trump, right? Maybe even Hoover.

ScatManDoo
02-07-22, 19:43
How about a little more specific than a significant number of seats? The media predicts four seats lost in the Senate. I will go with more than that.Elvis,

I am predicting that the Democrats will lose zero net seats in the Senate.

Largely because the RNC is inept.

Xpartan
02-07-22, 19:53
Well, at least, I know where you got this trash from.Praise the lord, first time you got something right! I got that clip from the TRASH Hannity show. Bingo, you're half as reliable as a broken clock.


Thing about arguing with you Democratic is that you never admit you are wrong. The three worst economic periods in my life were preceded by high oil prices and the best times occurred when oil prices were low and stayed that way. But we got one of you douches saying the economy was great under Carter.

Funny how my view matches up with the facts, Xpartan, and yours does not. https://www.statista.com/statistics/262858/change-in-opec-crude-oil-prices-since-1960/.

But we will soon found out who is right.We already have.

How can you possibly argue with someone who swears free market, yet has absolutely ZERO understanding of supply and demand -- the cornerstone of market economy?

EIA forecasts crude oil prices will fall in 2022 and 2023.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=50858

Xpartan
02-07-22, 20:19
The media (both left-slanted and right-slanted) in recent articles has been predicting a large red wave result for the mid-term elections in 2022.

With the republican party acting Super-Trump-Stupid, I'm not so sure the 2022 elections will turn out bad for the democrats.

There has been betting talk in this thread about placing wagers whether Donald Trump gets jailtime, or escapes it.

I am not interested in a bet that may not be settled for years.

Back to the terms of the proposed bet:

I think the democrats will most likely pick up one or two Senate seats in the 2022 midterms.

But that's a very risky bet, and not the one I want to make.

Right now the Democrats have 48 Senate seats. The Democrats currently caucus with Independent Angus King and Social-Democrat Bernie Sanders.

That gives them 50 Senate votes, and a controlling like majority in the Senate with Vice President Kamala Harris.

I am willing to bet that in the November 2022 midterms the Democrats maintain majority control of the Senate.

I bet the Democrats don't lose a seat and that republicans won't get more than 50 Senate seats resulting from the 2022 midterms.

I can receive or send payment on either Zelle or Venmo.

I don't think an intermediary needs to hold our stakes.

For even odds I am willing to bet $500, and if someone wants only part of the action, that will work.What makes you believe that any of your opponents here will pay you if you win?

What would Trump say (and do)?

Grifters don't pay.

And don't worry, they'll find excuses to stiff you (voting fraud, big steal, etc.).

On a more serious note, I'm afraid evil will flourish one more time in November. But I really hope to be proven wrong.

But in 2024, GOP will be crushed. And they'll spend the next 10 years trying to remove Trump's stink off their banners, but good luck with that.



Beside, my gut tells me that TrumpShit can eventually get convicted, only to escape extradition to Argentina, or Russia, or probably somewhere sunnier.

The loser planned a nearly successful coup in less than 60 days.

As a long-time criminal, I'm sure he's been planning his clean get away for a much longer time.In an unlikely case he has to face some real prison time (not a year or two, but a serious prospect of never seeing the light of day again) Russia wouldn't be so bad for Trump. Lots of options for thieving billionaires to have fun.

Only they may not be willing to take him. What for, he'll have served his purpose and only become a liability.

Unless there is a piece of paper somewhere in Lubyanka basement (google it) that has his signature on it. In which case, they'll be obliged to bring their guy "home", LOL.

Argentina? Not so much. Why would they mess with us? Maybe his buddy Kim?

But I have it on good authority that North Korea is not a fun place to live, LOL.

Axel Heyst
02-07-22, 21:42
At Least 22 Black American Citizens Shot in their own Neighborhoods by Black Criminals During last Weekend in Marxist / Democrat Mayor Lori Lightfoot's Chicago and not a word in the left wing corporate media: Disney, AT&T, Comcast, NY Times, Amazon WP. So what is Uncle Joe going to do about it. Nada. He read a teleprompter speech without forgetting where he was.

This is Racism in America. "The belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another." So there is nothing the Woke Left will do about it. Their hands are tied by their ideology and racism.

EihTooms
02-08-22, 01:11
If the Fed sees a need to solve any downside to this terrific economic outcome by raising the cost of money to as much as 2 friggin' percent in the next year or two with the mere stroke of a pen, Repubs will hysterically mischaracterize all of it as "the greatest evil of all evils that has ever befallen the country"!

Watch for it.

Fast-rising wages could cause the Fed to raise interest rates even higher

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/07/seven-hikes-fast-rising-wages-could-cause-the-fed-to-raise-interest-rates-even-higher-this-year.html?__source=androidappshare


Rapidly rising wages are expected to push Federal Reserve interest rate hikes at an even faster pace.
Average hourly earnings are running at a 5.7% pace over the past 12 months, near the highest levels in 15 years.
Bank of America is sticking to its call for seven rate hikes this year as the Fed looks to control the higher cost of living.Hey, wasn't this the kind of thing Trump used to claim credit for before it turned out his one and only godawful classic Repub waste of $2.5+ Trillion 2017 economic legislation produced fewer jobs in the economy with it than without it and his other historically disastrous decisions in 2018 and 2020 totally crashed the economy, destroyed worldwide supply-chains and wiped out millions upon millions of jobs, reducing their wages to zero?

ScatManDoo
02-08-22, 03:41
At Least 22 Black American Citizens Shot in their own Neighborhoods by Black Criminals During last Weekend in Marxist / Democrat Mayor Lori Lightfoot's Chicago and not a word in the left wing corporate media: Disney, AT&T, Comcast, NY Times, Amazon WP. So what is Uncle Joe going to do about it. Nada. He read a teleprompter speech without forgetting where he was.Left will do about it. Their hands are tied by their ideology and racism.What does the GOP propose to do (legislation or other LE changes) to address the problem?

Today the party's platform right now is historically briefly stated:

"Flippy-Floppy TrumpShit".

Axel Heyst
02-08-22, 04:34
Fast-rising wages could cause the Fed to raise interest rates even higher

Hey, wasn't this the kind of thing Trump used to claim credit forTrump policies raised wages, grew the economy, and there was no inflation to speak of hence real wages rose and the American people were better off than under the previous administration. That is called prosperity.

One year of dumbass Biden policies and the US has the highest rate of inflation since Jimmy Carter. Wages have risen too, but not as much as inflation hence real wages have declined under Biden and the American people are much worse off AND THEY KNOW IT! Rising wages are not the problem. Dumping trillions of dollars into the economy, shutting down the Keystone pipeline, and over regulating oil and petrochemical industry is the root cause. It is all on Biden.

Furthermore, US Economic conditions are only going to get worse over the next 3 years while Biden eats his ice cream cones and takes long afternoon naps in the White House. Just wait until the Fed begins to raise interest rates! Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a wild ride: Historians will call the next 3 years Jimmy Carter Part Deux.

EihTooms
02-08-22, 05:57
At Least 22 Black American Citizens Shot in their own Neighborhoods by Black Criminals During last Weekend in Marxist / Democrat Mayor Lori Lightfoot's Chicago and not a word in the left wing corporate media: Disney, AT&T, Comcast, NY Times, Amazon WP. So what is Uncle Joe going to do about it. Nada. He read a teleprompter speech without forgetting where he was.

This is Racism in America. "The belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another." So there is nothing the Woke Left will do about it. Their hands are tied by their ideology and racism.Sorry, but by near unanimous Republican Party vote, what you described and much worse than that is "Legitimate Political Discourse".

That means by any Repub definition it is Constitutionally protected Free Speech as covered in the 1st Amendment. Therefore, for any mayor of any city or any governor of any state to so much as Fund The Police in order to do anything to abridge the behavior you described would violate the Constitution of the United States of America.

According to the Republican Party.

Elvis 2008
02-08-22, 10:49
Thanks for providing further evidence for my point in my previous post here. Well, of course, you hated Carter. Carter was a champion USA jobs creator. One of the top 2-3 best of all time.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1979/9/14/carters-approval-rating-drops-to-record/

That approval rating was down six points from Carter's previous low in July. The 19 per cent rating is the lowest any president has received since the poll began in the 1950's.

A fourth of the Democrats polled gave Carter an excellent or good rating overall, down eight points from July and 53 per cent of the people who said they voted for Carter in 1976 now say they do not want him to run in 1980.

https://macaudailytimes.com.mo/this-day-in-history-1980-reagan-beats-carter-in-landslide.html

Final results showed Ronald Reagan won 489 electoral votes against the Democrats' 49.

Seriously, Eih, you sound like Bagdad Bob with this Jimmy Carter situation.

GDreams
02-08-22, 12:11
At Least 22 Black American Citizens Shot in their own Neighborhoods by Black Criminals During last Weekend in Marxist / Democrat Mayor Lori Lightfoot's Chicago and not a word in the left wing corporate media: Disney, AT&T, Comcast, NY Times, Amazon WP. So what is Uncle Joe going to do about it. Nada. He read a teleprompter speech without forgetting where he was.

This is Racism in America. "The belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another." So there is nothing the Woke Left will do about it. Their hands are tied by their ideology and racism.Exactly what did Trump do about it?

EatALotOpus
02-08-22, 15:32
Bacon shot up 24% CNBC about an hour ago. 12 PC meal of KFC $52.00 personal experience two days ego. Good job Brandon. Just bark at Russia knowing there's nothing you can do even though you practically invited them into Ukraine with your "Anything short of a small incursion" stupid comment. Push that vaccine blame the Russians ignore inflation. Something got to change and it will come November.

Axel Heyst
02-08-22, 15:44
"With inflation at 7%, the highest rate since 1982, and the Federal Reserve set to tighten monetary policy, you would think the president and Congress would be looking for ways to end the spending spree in Washington. Yet remarkably, bipartisan discussions abound to increase this year's omnibus appropriations by 16%—almost a quarter of a trillion dollars—pass another round of Covid stimulus, and resurrect the $1. 7 trillion Build Back Better bill. It is hard to recall a greater disconnect between economic reality and public policy in American history.

This inflation has been driven by an explosion of federal spending, which was set to average 20% of gross domestic product in 2020 and 2021. Instead it doubled to 40% of GDP in a 12-month period as pandemic spending exploded. The multiple stimulus bills did more than fill the gap in aggregate demand. Spending surged as the pandemic shutdown reduced employment and production during that period by an average of 7%. In this textbook case of inflation, $1. 20 of income began chasing 93 cents of goods and services, a process greased by expansive monetary policy, and that mismatch sent inflation to a 40-year high.

Checking-account balances are still 350% of their pre-pandemic level. Of the $5. 8 trillion in total Covid stimulus approved by Congress, some $400 billion has yet to be spent. Massive state surpluses have emerged from federal grants. All states combined are sitting on $113 billion in ready cash. Median household real wealth has surged by $27 trillion since the pandemic began, generating a potentially massive wealth effect on consumption.

The producer price index, a key driver of consumer prices, rose 9. 7% in 2021, while import prices, usually a moderator of inflation, rose 10.4%. And 75% of the 17% rise in housing costs last year has yet to show up in consumer prices because rental leases cause shelter costs to lag behind increases in housing costs. Shelter costs make up a third of the consumer price index.

Inflation permanently increases entitlement spending via automatic indexing. The current 7% inflation will add $1.5 trillion in new spending over the next decade. Under current services budgeting, discretionary spending will rise by $641 billion. Given everything that's going on in the economy, how is it possible to justify a massive increase in the omnibus appropriations bill, a new stimulus bill, or the resurrection of Build Back Better?

In a final desperate effort to save Build Back Better and elevate government to the center of American life, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen is trying to pitch the Biden economic agenda as "modern supply-side economics. " But whereas real supply-side economics creates a private incentive to work, save and invest, Ms. Yellen's approach expands government benefits as a way of "fixing supply-chain bottlenecks" and substitutes "public investment" for private investment.

In virtually every case where Ms. Yellen claims Build Back Better will expand employment and production, experience and logic suggest otherwise. Almost 43% of the first year's cost of the bill is funding the expanded child tax credit with no work requirement. A quartet of University of Chicago economists have concluded the expanded child tax credit would reduce labor supply by 1. 5 million workers, just as soaring pandemic transfer payments resulted in 2. 5 million workers dropping out of the labor market. More than 20% of the bill's first-year cost, $52 billion, would fund tax cuts for rich people in high-tax states, not exactly a supply-chain fixer.

Build Back Better would expand ObamaCare and other healthcare subsidies, which the Congressional Budget Office has consistently found reduces the supply of labor. The CBO concluded that it is "unclear" if family and medical leave would have a positive or negative effect on employment but "the magnitude would probably be small. "

Ms. Yellen's modern supply-side economics argues that government can invest based on enlightened political motives more efficiently than the private sector can invest based on the profit motive. But "federal investment is estimated" by the CBO "to yield half of the typical returns on investment completed by the private sector. " The European Union, with its larger government benefits, greener policies and more government intervention in the marketplace, doesn't seem to be benefiting from modern supply-side economics. Europe has grown at 1. 57% for 20 years while the USA Has averaged 2.1% growth—that's more than a third higher. All of Ms. Yellen's claims ignore the negative economic effects sure to be produced by Build Back Better's tax increases.

At some point, the Biden administration and Congress must accept a corollary to Adam Smith's truism: "It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest. " When government gives people the things they normally must work to be able to buy, many will butcher, brew, and bake less. This is the lesson of the War on Poverty. When means-tested transfer payments rose dramatically, the share of prime work-age people in the bottom 20% of American income earners who actually worked fell to 36% from 68% over the ensuing 50 years. All analysis of the labor component of the supply chain must recognize that if the government gives people things they typically get by working, many people will quit working.

Instead of offering a phony version of President Reagan's supply-side economics, Democrats would be better off trying to replicate President Clinton's approach to welfare reform and spending restraint. He didn't expand the size of government, but in his last four years in office he did preside over 4.5% average annual growth, 2. 3% inflation and a reduction of the federal debt. Do Americans want more prosperity or a bigger government?

WSJ 2/8/22.

Axel Heyst
02-08-22, 16:59
Exactly what did Trump do about it?What could he do? Declare Marshal Law and move the National Guard into the City? Arrest the Mayor and the District Attorney? Constitutionally it is up to the Governor and the Mayor to request the National Guard. The President could have asked Congress to make it a Federal Crime (with a mandatory 5 year prison sentence) to possess an illegal handgun, but the bill would never have made it through Congress over the Marxist Left Senate filibuster.

The bottom line is as long as the citizens of Chicago and all other Democrat controlled cities keep voting for the Democratic Party machine candidates and specifically for District Attorney's like Kim Foxx, who will not prosecute violent criminals, the murders will continue unabated.

Example: https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/10/07/chicago-mayor-and-district-atty-throw-down-over-gang-shootout-lightfoot-calls-for-federal-investigation-1145347/.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. " Black Lives apparently do not matter to Democrats and Woke-tards. The proof is that this black on black slaughter has been going on for over 20 years in these one party Democrat controlled cities and nothing has been done about. The murders do not even make airtime on CNN, MSNBC or Disney propaganda news networks because they do not support the party narrative, so they are deemed not newsworthy. And that is Racism in America today.

Canada
02-08-22, 17:28
Thanks for providing further evidence for my point in my previous post here. Well, of course, you hated Carter. Carter was a champion USA jobs creator. One of the top 2-3 best of all time.

But his overall economy was not Great in the way it was under LBJ, Clinton, Obama and now Biden. It's just that his jobs creation results and tax policies were objectively more effective for growing a real economy than those of Hoover, Eisenhower, Nixon / Ford, Reagan, Bush1, Bush2 and certainly Trump. Yeah, I'll even include Coolidge despite his higher average annual percentage of job gains during his 5 years in office since many millions more jobs than were created were wiped out starting less than 1 year after he got out without his successor, Repub Hoover, changing one thing legislatively, proving Coolidge's policies were nothing but a smoke and mirror disaster. Wiped out all the impressive stock market gains Coolidge presided over too.

I'm guessing you dearly loved the presidents whose USA jobs creation results were either simply inferior to Carter's or downright spectacularly godawful like Eisenhower, Reagan, Bush1, Bush2 and Trump, right? Maybe even Hoover.I see you still are in Fantasyland. Continued lies and fabrications don't make it real.

Canada
02-08-22, 17:37
You wrote this blabber nine months ago in in May.

What blather to you spew now after so many recounts found no evidence of democrats stealing elections?

Look to the republicans that used to darken the White House's doors.

Where there is evidence of election stealing.As a matter of fact they did find irregular voting practices in Maricopa County that affected the votes. The democrat secretary of state admitted that a few thousand votes for Biden and democrats were not legal votes but they believed the people at the voting sites didn't understand the rules. They said they just weren't trained properly and it was not done intentionally. Yeh right!

PVMonger
02-08-22, 17:42
Trump policies raised wages, grew the economy, and there was no inflation to speak of hence real wages rose and the American people were better off than under the previous administration. That is called prosperity.

One year of dumbass Biden policies and the US has the highest rate of inflation since Jimmy Carter. Wages have risen too, but not as much as inflation hence real wages have declined under Biden and the American people are much worse off AND THEY KNOW IT! Rising wages are not the problem. Dumping trillions of dollars into the economy, shutting down the Keystone pipeline, and over regulating oil and petrochemical industry is the root cause. It is all on Biden.

Furthermore, US Economic conditions are only going to get worse over the next 3 years while Biden eats his ice cream cones and takes long afternoon naps in the White House. Just wait until the Fed begins to raise interest rates! Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a wild ride: Historians will call the next 3 years Jimmy Carter Part Deux.Remind me again what home mortgage rates were during 1981?

PVMonger
02-08-22, 17:53
Bacon shot up 24% CNBC about an hour ago. 12 PC meal of KFC $52.00 personal experience two days ego. Good job Brandon. Just bark at Russia knowing there's nothing you can do even though you practically invited them into Ukraine with your "Anything short of a small incursion" stupid comment. Push that vaccine blame the Russians ignore inflation. Something got to change and it will come November.And yet farmers and ranchers sell their chickens, hogs and steers for less than last year. So, if farmers and ranchers receive less for their animals and consumer prices are up, who is making the money? It couldn't be greed from the processors, could it? Or greed from the supermarkets, could it?

Naaaaah, it is just easier to blame Biden instead of putting the blame where it belongs. On the corporations who are raising prices and announcing record profits. No wonder Republicans like their voters uneducated!

ScatManDoo
02-08-22, 17:58
The producers (The January 6th committee) have been blocking out the timeslots for their biggest productions yet.

And lining up A-list talent to make guest star appearances are Michael Flynn, Ivanka Trump, and current east-coast headliner Mike Pence.

I understands that ensemble players Steve Bannon and Mark Meadows might be negotiating their release from other alternative obligations, that should affect the availability both.

Still no word yet as to whether the big smelly flop has been booked yet.

We will check next month with the booking desk for updates.

Elvis 2008
02-08-22, 19:16
We already have.Yeah, I was right, and you were wrong. Oil hit $91 a barrel yesterday. EIA forecast only went to $80. Whoops.


How can you possibly argue with someone who swears free market, yet has absolutely ZERO understanding of supply and demand -- the cornerstone of market economy?LOL. In 2004, when oil prices went up for a decade, there was literally no spare capacity in the system. Everyone was pumping full out.

The EIA does not include Libya, Iran, and Venezuela in its calculation of OPEC spare capacity. If you add that to what the USA pumped in the past, what Russia pumped in the past, and the rest of OPEC's spare capacity, you are at a 10 million BPD surplus of oil.

So tell me Mr. Supply and Demand, why the fuck are oil prices so high?

Because Brandon is such a moron he has scared oil producers so much all over the world, they will not produce. Oil producers will not produce if they think the government is going to seize all their profits.

If Obama or Trump were president, I would put every penny I had into this oil short, https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/DTO?p=DTO.

And I bought DTO like crazy when Obama was president and made a killing.

Xpartan, you are too big of a Democratic douche to see the truth. I can praise both Obama and Trump, and you cannot. They had good energy policies. You are so screwed in the head that you think Obama and Biden are both great when their policies could not have been more different.

ScatManDoo
02-08-22, 20:00
When Mike Pence said these same words over the weekend.

I knew that I had heard them before.

Probably from numerous prestigious people.

Like this headline, that appeared in newspapers more than a year ago.

The GOP does not want you to believe your lying eyes.

They're in for a big surprise when TrumpShit gets convicted.

EihTooms
02-08-22, 20:46
And neither will polls.


"With inflation at 7%, the highest rate since 1982, and the Federal Reserve set to tighten monetary policy, you would think the president and Congress would be looking for ways to end the spending spree in Washington. Yet remarkably, bipartisan discussions abound to increase this year's omnibus appropriations by 16%almost a quarter of a trillion dollarspass another round of Covid stimulus, and resurrect the $1. 7 trillion Build Back Better bill. It is hard to recall a greater disconnect between economic reality and public policy in American history.

This inflation has been driven by an explosion of federal spending, which was set to average 20% of gross domestic product in 2020 and 2021. Instead it doubled to 40% of GDP in a 12-month period as pandemic spending exploded. The multiple stimulus bills did more than fill the gap in aggregate demand. Spending surged as the pandemic shutdown reduced employment and production during that period by an average of 7%. In this textbook case of inflation, $1. 20 of income began chasing 93 cents of goods and services, a process greased by expansive monetary policy, and that mismatch sent inflation to a 40-year high.

Checking-account balances are still 350% of their pre-pandemic level. Of the $5. 8 trillion in total Covid stimulus approved by Congress, some $400 billion has yet to be spent. Massive state surpluses have emerged from federal grants. All states combined are sitting on $113 billion in ready cash. Median household real wealth has surged by $27 trillion since the pandemic began, generating a potentially massive wealth effect on consumption.

The producer price index, a key driver of consumer prices, rose 9. 7% in 2021, while import prices, usually a moderator of inflation, rose 10.4%. And 75% of the 17% rise in housing costs last year has yet to show up in consumer prices because rental leases cause shelter costs to lag behind increases in housing costs. Shelter costs make up a third of the consumer price index.

Inflation permanently increases entitlement spending via automatic indexing. The current 7% inflation will add $1.5 trillion in new spending over the next decade. Under current services budgeting, discretionary spending will rise by $641 billion. Given everything that's going on in the economy, how is it possible to justify a massive increase in the omnibus appropriations bill, a new stimulus bill, or the resurrection of Build Back Better?

In a final desperate effort to save Build Back Better and elevate government to the center of American life, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen is trying to pitch the Biden economic agenda as "modern supply-side economics. " But whereas real supply-side economics creates a private incentive to work, save and invest, Ms. Yellen's approach expands government benefits as a way of "fixing supply-chain bottlenecks" and substitutes "public investment" for private investment.

In virtually every case where Ms. Yellen claims Build Back Better will expand employment and production, experience and logic suggest otherwise. Almost 43% of the first year's cost of the bill is funding the expanded child tax credit with no work requirement. A quartet of University of Chicago economists have concluded the expanded child tax credit would reduce labor supply by 1. 5 million workers, just as soaring pandemic transfer payments resulted in 2. 5 million workers dropping out of the labor market. More than 20% of the bill's first-year cost, $52 billion, would fund tax cuts for rich people in high-tax states, not exactly a supply-chain fixer.

Build Back Better would expand ObamaCare and other healthcare subsidies, which the Congressional Budget Office has consistently found reduces the supply of labor. The CBO concluded that it is "unclear" if family and medical leave would have a positive or negative effect on employment but "the magnitude would probably be small. "

Ms. Yellen's modern supply-side economics argues that government can invest based on enlightened political motives more efficiently than the private sector can invest based on the profit motive. But "federal investment is estimated" by the CBO "to yield half of the typical returns on investment completed by the private sector. " The European Union, with its larger government benefits, greener policies and more government intervention in the marketplace, doesn't seem to be benefiting from modern supply-side economics. Europe has grown at 1. 57% for 20 years while the USA Has averaged 2.1% growththat's more than a third higher. All of Ms. Yellen's claims ignore the negative economic effects sure to be produced by Build Back Better's tax increases..Looks like every lamebrain argument for Repub economic policies over Dem economic policies repeatedly made during the past century.

Yet, it turned out those Repub arguments produced every major economic downturn and massive job losses and none of the great expansions and historic job gains during that century while the Dem arguments produced all of the great expansions and historic job gains and none of the major economic downturns.

Maybe Elvis 2008 can find a poll result somewhere that changes the actual, verifiable data to suit your preferred lamebrain Repub argument.

You know, a Gallup poll that miraculously shows Reagan's economy really did produce a higher average annual jobs creation record than Carter's did rather than the other way around, that Trump's disastrous economic decisions in 2018 and 2020 didn't really wipe out millions upon millions of jobs and nearly totally destroy worldwide Supply-Chains or that just the previous 2 Dem presidents' economies didn't really produce about as many jobs as all 9 of the Repub presidents of the past 100 years combined.

I've never heard of a poll changing an actual, verifiable record of results despite lamebrain arguments appearing to do so in the minds of desperate Repubs wishing to please, please make it so. But Elvis 2008 seems to believe in those kind of miracles.

EihTooms
02-08-22, 21:38
Trump policies raised wages, grew the economy, and there was no inflation to speak of hence real wages rose and the American people were better off than under the previous administration. That is called prosperity.

One year of dumbass Biden policies and the US has the highest rate of inflation since Jimmy Carter. Wages have risen too, but not as much as inflation hence real wages have declined under Biden and the American people are much worse off AND THEY KNOW IT! Rising wages are not the problem. Dumping trillions of dollars into the economy, shutting down the Keystone pipeline, and over regulating oil and petrochemical industry is the root cause. It is all on Biden.

Furthermore, US Economic conditions are only going to get worse over the next 3 years while Biden eats his ice cream cones and takes long afternoon naps in the White House. Just wait until the Fed begins to raise interest rates! Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a wild ride: Historians will call the next 3 years Jimmy Carter Part Deux.Where did you get that "highest rate of inflation since Jimmy Carter" bit?

Carter wasn't president in 1983. Without even doing a Google Search, I can assure you 1983 was Ronnie Reagan's 3rd year as president:

"Key Fed inflation gauge rises 4.9% from a year ago, fastest gain since 1983"

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/01/28/key-fed-inflation-gauge-rises-4point9percent-from-a-year-ago-fastest-gain-since-1983.html

Oh, I can also assure you wages under Reagan's policies were not rising as much in 1983 as they have under Biden.

You know how I know that? Because 1983, Reagan's 3rd year in office, was still racking up 10%+ monthly Unemployment Rates thanks to Reagan's lambrain Repub argument economic policies and idiotic stewardship. And that is not compatible with rising American wages.

MarquisdeSade1
02-08-22, 23:36
"With inflation at 7%, the highest rate since 1982, and the Federal Reserve set to tighten monetary policy, you would think the president and Congress would be looking for ways to end the spending spree in Washington. Yet remarkably, bipartisan discussions abound to increase this year's omnibus appropriations by 16%almost a quarter of a trillion dollarspass another round of Covid stimulus, and resurrect the $1. 7 trillion Build Back Better bill. It is hard to recall a greater disconnect between economic reality and public policy in American history.

This inflation has been driven by an explosion of federal spending, which was set to average 20% of gross domestic product in 2020 and 2021. Instead it doubled to 40% of GDP in a 12-month period as pandemic spending exploded. The multiple stimulus bills did more than fill the gap in aggregate demand. Spending surged as the pandemic shutdown reduced employment and production during that period by an average of 7%. In this textbook case of inflation, $1. 20 of income began chasing 93 cents of goods and services, a process greased by expansive monetary policy, and that mismatch sent inflation to a 40-year high.

Checking-account balances are still 350% of their pre-pandemic level. Of the $5. 8 trillion in total Covid stimulus approved by Congress, some $400 billion has yet to be spent. Massive state surpluses have emerged from federal grants. All states combined are sitting on $113 billion in ready cash. Median household real wealth has surged by $27 trillion since the pandemic began, generating a potentially massive wealth effect on consumption.

The producer price index, a key driver of consumer prices, rose 9. 7% in 2021, while import prices, usually a moderator of inflation, rose 10.4%. And 75% of the 17% rise in housing costs last year has yet to show up in consumer prices because rental leases cause shelter costs to lag behind increases in housing costs. Shelter costs make up a third of the consumer price index.https://amgreatness.com/2022/02/07/what-to-do-with-the-left-after-their-coming-spanking/

ScatManDoo
02-08-22, 23:50
And yet, with your Master's Degree and your well-compensated-more-than-six-figure job at a top financial company, you still would recommend that a client should take FUX "News" (with 3 MM viewers) free commercial placement over CBS News' same offer (with 5 MM viewers) because 3 million is greater than 5 million?

Somebody is ripping off the company for which you work and I think it is you. Anybody who believes that 3 million is greater than 5 million isn't worthy of a 3rd grade graduation certificate, much less a Masters Degree. And a 6-figure salary? ROFL.I used to think highly of the education systems in the state California.

But this self-proclaimed product of that educational system has me realizing that some students can fake it and graduate.

3 million viewers are greater than five million? Really Cali Guy?

Delusions that poster has that I went and wrote about going to school in San Diego? Where did you pull that out of Cali Guy?

He has not demonstrated acceptable reading comprehension that any on my fellow instructors would have found acceptable.

Axel Heyst
02-09-22, 03:32
Where did you get that "highest rate of inflation since Jimmy Carter" bit?

Carter wasn't president in 1983. Without even doing a Google Search, I can assure you 1983 was Ronnie Reagan's 3rd year as president:

"Key Fed inflation gauge rises 4.9% from a year ago, fastest gain since 1983"

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/01/28/key-fed-inflation-gauge-rises-4point9percent-from-a-year-ago-fastest-gain-since-1983.html

Oh, I can also assure you wages under Reagan's policies were not rising as much in 1983 as they have under Biden.

You know how I know that? Because 1983, Reagan's 3rd year in office, was still racking up 10%+ monthly Unemployment Rates thanks to Reagan's lambrain Repub argument economic policies and idiotic stewardship. And that is not compatible with rising American wages.Not a gotcha moment ET Although your knowledge of the Carter Reagan years is a little sketchy. I merely quoted from the WSJ Opinion piece.

Reagan ran against Carter in 1980. He took the oath of office in January 1981.

Year Annual.

1982 6.131%.

1981 10.335%.

1980 13.549%.

1979 11.254%.

1978 7.631%.

1977 6.502%.

1976 5.745.

Axel Heyst
02-09-22, 04:18
Where did you get that "highest rate of inflation since Jimmy Carter" bit?
Please ignore my previous response to you. It was sent off by accident before I could finish it. This is what I intended to post.

The data is available from the Federal Reserve.

Here it is. I know it is hard to read when copied into ISG, but pay close attention to the last column which is the annual rate of inflation. I have included 1976 rate of inflation as a benchmark (the last rate under Ford) to show what Carter did in his disastrous 4 year term. So when Ford left office the Dec 1976 rate was December rate 4. 3865% and the 1976 annual rate was 5. 745%. When Jimmy left office the December, 1980 monthly rate was 12.516% and the annual 1980 rate of inflation was 13.549%. Clearly Carter was unable to deal with the problem. Just look at the data. But living through it was even worse for most Americans.

Reagan came into office in January 1981. Inflation raged throughout 1981 as he and Paul Volcker, head of the Fed, tried to get a grip on it. Finally, by December, 1982 inflation was beaten, but it took a recession to do it. The Dec, 1982 monthly rate was 3. 830% and the annual 1982 rate was 6. 131% showing the rate was in decline during 1981. I have included the rate of inflation for Reagan's entire term in office to prove that 1982 was not a fluke. Reagan had really tamed inflation and it remained under control from November, 1982 until Joe Biden became President.

You can really see the difference between 2020 Trump inflation data and 2021 Biden Inflation data. Yes, the USA has not seen an explosion in the rate of inflation like this since Carter was in office and the scary thing is that this is just Biden's 1st year in office. We have 3 more years of this guy. Most unbiased economists are predicting inflation will continue to rise. But we shall see about that.

So here is the data:

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual.

1988 4. 047% 3. 943% 3. 925% 3. 904% 3. 890% 3. 965% 4. 130% 4. 021% 4. 174% 4. 250% 4. 246% 4. 419% 4. 078%.

1987 1. 460% 2. 104% 3. 033% 3. 775% 3. 857% 3. 653% 3. 927% 4. 284% 4. 356% 4. 533% 4. 529% 4. 434% 3. 665%.

1986 3. 886% 3. 113% 2. 256% 1. 590% 1. 491% 1. 766% 1. 577% 1. 574% 1. 754% 1. 472% 1. 284% 1. 098% 1. 898%.

1985 3. 533% 3. 516% 3. 704% 3. 686% 3. 772% 3. 761% 3. 554% 3. 349% 3. 143% 3. 229% 3. 514% 3. 799% 3. 546%.

1984 4. 192% 4. 597% 4. 801% 4. 564% 4. 234% 4. 221% 4. 204% 4. 291% 4. 270% 4. 257% 4. 051% 3. 949% 4. 301%.

1983 3. 712% 3. 488% 3. 598% 3. 899% 3. 549% 2. 577% 2. 462% 2. 559% 2. 860% 2. 851% 3. 265% 3. 791% 3. 212%.

1982 8. 391% 7. 622% 6. 780% 6. 510% 6. 682% 7. 064% 6. 441% 5. 850% 5. 043% 5. 139% 4. 589% 3. 830% 6. 131%.

1981 11.825% 11.407% 10.487% 10.000% 9. 780% 9. 553% 10.762% 10.804% 10.952% 10.142% 9. 591% 8. 922% 10.335%.

1980 13.909% 14.182% 14.756% 14.731% 14.406% 14.385% 13.133% 12.873% 12.601% 12.766% 12.648% 12.516% 13.549%.

1979 9. 280% 9. 857% 10.095% 10.485% 10.853% 10.890% 11.263% 11.818% 12.180% 12.072% 12.611% 13.294% 11.254%.

1978 6. 838% 6. 430% 6. 555% 6. 500% 6. 965% 7. 414% 7. 705% 7. 843% 8. 306% 8. 929% 8. 885% 9. 018% 7.631%.

1977 5.216% 5. 914% 6. 440% 6. 952% 6. 726% 6. 866% 6. 830% 6. 620% 6. 597% 6. 390% 6. 724% 6. 701% 6. 502%.

1976 6.718% 6. 286% 6. 072% 6. 049% 6. 203% 5. 970% 5. 351% 5. 709% 5. 495% 5. 464% 4. 882% 4. 865% 5.745%.

2021 1.400% 1. 676% 2. 620% 4. 160% 4. 993% 5. 391% 5. 365% 5. 251% 5. 390% 6. 222% 6. 809% 7. 036% 4.698%.

2020 2. 487% 2. 335% 1. 539% 0. 329% 0. 118% 0. 646% 0. 986% 1. 310% 1. 371% 1. 182% 1. 175% 1. 362% 1.234%.

ScatManDoo
02-09-22, 04:19
MARICOPA COUNTY, AZ:After several people involved in the counting of the votes have claimed voter fraud in the election Republicans are trying to do a recount which they are entitled to. The democrats are trying to block it in every way. Letters to the editor in local newspapers today are demanding that they do not do a recount. I know several people on this site don't want a recount or investigation either. If I was accused of wrongdoing and had done nothing wrong I would welcome an audit and prove my innocence. Why are the democrats trying to block this if they are innocent or if there is no wrong doing. Why is it when democrats are accused of anything they don't want to be investigated? They are scared the truth will come out. Only a guilty party would refuse evidence. If there was no fraud then just let them recount. If there was fraud keep fighting the recount.Canada had a response to this blithering nonsense. Canada wrote:


As a matter of fact they did find irregular voting practices in Maricopa County that affected the votes. The democrat secretary of state admitted that a few thousand votes for Biden and democrats were not legal votes but they believed the people at the voting sites didn't understand the rules. They said they just weren't trained properly and it was not done intentionally. Yeh right!I noticed that Canada did not provide a link confirming his assertion.

In the 2020 presidential election there were 2.1 million votes cast in Maricopa County.

And almost as many audits.

Joe Biden won Maricopa County by more than 45,000 votes. Maricopa is a blue county in a red state.

There were a lot of audits and recounts, so it helps to know were this, ahem "admission" exists that thousands of illegal votes were counted. What Canada asserted did not match real news coverage I saw and read at the time. Their audits and recounts were a running story for more than half a year.

I used google to research, and found nothing like what Canada asserts. I look forward to seeing who his sources are. Yea baby.

Per state law, after presidential elections in Arizona, a multiparty audit board must conduct a hand count of ballots from a sample of randomly selected voting precincts and compare them with the results from voting machines. The hand counts in Arizona's most populous county, home to Phoenix, started the Saturday after the election and wrapped up two days later. Not a single discrepancy was found.

I think a few audits and recounts down the road, we got to the legendary long long Cyber Ninja audit.

Those Rookie Cyber Nijas were a bunch of republican hacks hired to do a six-week recount.

But once they got hidden access to the actual ballots.

They couldn't stop ejaculating all over the Dirty Democrat Votes.

And delayed the audit party enough to run it for more than four months.

The Ninja's audit report (September 2001) raised around 40 claims, but the few that involved a significant number of votes were issues raised because the Ninjas didn't understand how some votes were recoded or tabulated. And they never bothered to ask the registrar, and published a report that contained no fraud evidence, with conclusions that only confirmed Cyber Ninja ignorance.

A total of 40 claims made by the Cyber Ninjas were rebuffed by county election officials. https://ktar.com/story/4829697/maricopa-county-elections-officials-refute-all-fraud-claims-from-audit-of-2020-results/.

The Trump campaign lost eight lawsuits involving Arizona presidential voting.

My guess is that all eight lawsuits suffered from a severe lack of evidence.

https://ktar.com/story/4829697/maricopa-county-elections-officials-refute-all-fraud-claims-from-audit-of-2020-results/

ScatManDoo
02-09-22, 04:43
Trump policies raised wages, grew the economy, and there was no inflation to speak of hence real wages rose and the American people were better off than under the previous administration. That is called prosperity.At the end of Barack Obama's terms in office, there were less than 4.5 million people unemployed.

At the end of Trumpshit's single (twice impeached) term, more than six million people were unemployed.

Did you get taught or tutored in math by the poster here with the handle CaliGuy.

If so, it's not your fault.

PVMonger
02-09-22, 05:01
What could he do? Declare Marshal Law and move the National Guard into the City? Arrest the Mayor and the District Attorney? Constitutionally it is up to the Governor and the Mayor to request the National Guard. The President could have asked Congress to make it a Federal Crime (with a mandatory 5 year prison sentence) to possess an illegal handgun, but the bill would never have made it through Congress over the Marxist Left Senate filibuster.

The bottom line is as long as the citizens of Chicago and all other Democrat controlled cities keep voting for the Democratic Party machine candidates and specifically for District Attorney's like Kim Foxx, who will not prosecute violent criminals, the murders will continue unabated.

Example: https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/10/07/chicago-mayor-and-district-atty-throw-down-over-gang-shootout-lightfoot-calls-for-federal-investigation-1145347/.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results. " Black Lives apparently do not matter to Democrats and Woke-tards. The proof is that this black on black slaughter has been going on for over 20 years in these one party Democrat controlled cities and nothing has been done about. The murders do not even make airtime on CNN, MSNBC or Disney propaganda news networks because they do not support the party narrative, so they are deemed not newsworthy. And that is Racism in America today.Every attempt as passing gun legislation has been blocked by Republicans, not Democrats. This is just one article of the 1,253 available on the Internet. https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/05/mitch-mcconnell-keeps-blocking-gun-reform-laws-even-after-dayton-el-paso-shootings/1920898001/.

PVMonger
02-09-22, 05:10
Yeah, I was right, and you were wrong. Oil hit $91 a barrel yesterday. EIA forecast only went to $80. Whoops.

LOL. In 2004, when oil prices went up for a decade, there was literally no spare capacity in the system. Everyone was pumping full out.

The EIA does not include Libya, Iran, and Venezuela in its calculation of OPEC spare capacity. If you add that to what the USA pumped in the past, what Russia pumped in the past, and the rest of OPEC's spare capacity, you are at a 10 million BPD surplus of oil.

So tell me Mr. Supply and Demand, why the fuck are oil prices so high?

Because Brandon is such a moron he has scared oil producers so much all over the world, they will not produce. Oil producers will not produce if they think the government is going to seize all their profits..This is the same BS you keep spouting. I realize that Forbes is just a business publication and not nearly as smart as you, but they disagree. https://www.forbes.com/sites/daneberhart/2021/11/13/why-are-oil-prices-so-high-when-the-us-remains-one-of-the-worlds-largest-producers/?sh=34d74784ddfc.

Wall street and their drive to require better financials also play a part https://www.forbes.com/sites/daneberhart/2021/11/13/why-are-oil-prices-so-high-when-the-us-remains-one-of-the-worlds-largest-producers/?sh=34d74784ddfc.

Supply and demand is out of whack too https://www.thebalance.com/what-makes-oil-prices-so-high-3305654.

But sure, let's blame Biden. Sheesh.

PVMonger
02-09-22, 05:12
https://amgreatness.com/2022/02/07/what-to-do-with-the-left-after-their-coming-spanking/And yet there's nothing in this rightwingnut rag of yours that discusses the OTTIFG ripping up documents in contravention of the Presidential Records Act. I guess that didn't happen, eh?

ScatManDoo
02-09-22, 05:15
Right now the Democrats have 48 Senate seats. The Democrats currently caucus with Independent Angus King and Social-Democrat Bernie Sanders.

That gives them 50 Senate votes, and a controlling like majority in the Senate with Vice President Kamala Harris.

I am willing to bet that in the November 2022 midterms the Democrats maintain majority control of the Senate.

I bet the Democrats don't lose a seat and that republicans won't get more than 50 Senate seats resulting from the 2022 midterms.

I can receive or send payment on either Zelle or Venmo.

I don't think an intermediary needs to hold our stakes.

For even odds I am willing to bet $500, and if someone wants only part of the action, that will work.This offer has been out now for close to 48 hours.

Here in California, it is around 8 PM.

There have been no takers that I know of.

I will hold my offer open for about the next 50 hours.

If you want to make this bet with me, indicate in this thread before 10:00 PM (PST) on Thursday, February 10th.

I have been concerned about the Senate seat in Georgia.

Polls seen to favor republican athlete Herschel Walker over the incumbent democrat Raphael Warnock.

We'll see how that goes.

EihTooms
02-09-22, 08:37
Xpartan, you are too big of a Democratic douche to see the truth. I can praise both Obama and Trump, and you cannot. They had good energy policies. You are so screwed in the head that you think Obama and Biden are both great when their policies could not have been more different.LOL. Yeah, that is the classic Repub BS during election years. As we get closer to the election, more and more Repubs will occasionally say something vaguely complimentary about a Dem or two and try to sound reasonable and fair-minded in order to scam voters into thinking a vote for their side is pretty much no different than a vote for Dems. In fact, they hope, if you put a finger in one ear and squint really hard with both eyes, by golly you might not even see a difference between a Dem and a Repub. It is merely an extension of the pro-Repub "Bothsiderism" con. As though the inevitable end result of a Great Repub Crash and Massive Job Losses is "no different" than a Great Dem Recovery, Expansion and Historic Job Gains. Lolol.

No surprise that this is the year spineless ultra-winger Repub Pence decides to announce "Trump was wrong. I didn't have the right to overturn the election." So reasonable sounding, isn't it? Gee, he's as pro-America as any Dem, might as well vote for his Party in November or just stay home and let the QAnons do all the voting and vote counting. Of course, if he grandly announces something like that in the media, it might prevent him from being subpoenaed to answer far more incriminating questions about what the hell he and his boss were up to and discussing during the lead up to their violent, deadly, anti-American "Legitimate Political Discourse" on January 6, 2021.

BTW, I see the typically pro-Repub electioneering Mainstream Media is already changing Pence's key word in that statement, "right", to "power", just as conman Pence had hoped they might mishear and mischaracterize it to his and his Party's benefit. Even MSNBC is repeating that Pence bravely and honorably announced that he "did not have the power" to overturn the 2020 election. No he didn't. That isn't what he said. But Mainstream Media would like to lull you into the notion that there wasn't then and won't be in the future a means by which their beloved Repubs will have the "power" to do exactly that, which is what every one of them is working overtime to accomplish right now before the next election.

EihTooms
02-09-22, 08:52
I see you still are in Fantasyland. Continued lies and fabrications don't make it real.No, the Bureau of Labor Statistics is what makes it real.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

To recap: Not only was inflation higher in Reagan's 3rd year in office, much closer to his re-election year than Biden is today, wages were in the crapper and we were in the latest 8 months of Reagan's whopping ten consecutive months of 10%+ Unemployment Rates. See and set the table in the above link to cover the Reagan years. Oh, and, in the end, Reagan's average annual jobs creation result paled by comparison to Carter's. Carter's economy far surpassed Reagan and every other Repub going back to at least the Great Repub Depression on that count and, unlike Reagan, he accomplished that far superior result without tripling the National Debt.

EatALotOpus
02-09-22, 10:56
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Naaaaah, it is just easier to blame Biden instead of putting the blame where it belongs. On the corporations who are raising prices and announcing record profits. No wonder Republicans like their voters uneducated!Bacon shut up in California because of Regulations posed by Democrats.

Responding by demeaning is the Democrat MO!

EihTooms
02-09-22, 14:06
Please ignore my previous response to you. It was sent off by accident before I could finish it. This is what I intended to post.

The data is available from the Federal Reserve.

Here it is. I know it is hard to read when copied into ISG, but pay close attention to the last column which is the annual rate of inflation. I have included 1976 rate of inflation as a benchmark (the last rate under Ford) to show what Carter did in his disastrous 4 year term. So when Ford left office the Dec 1976 rate was December rate 4. 3865% and the 1976 annual rate was 5. 745%. When Jimmy left office the December, 1980 monthly rate was 12.516% and the annual 1980 rate of inflation was 13.549%. Clearly Carter was unable to deal with the problem. Just look at the data. But living through it was even worse for most Americans.."Reagan came into office in January 1981. Inflation raged throughout 1981 as he and Paul Volcker, head of the Fed, tried to get a grip on it."

You mean Carter and his Fed Chairman Paul Volker did, not tried to, get a grip on it soon after Carter appointed him to do exactly that in late 1979 and he began raising Fed Funds rate in order to do it.

That solution to rising inflation began to take effect by mid 1980, as your figures show.

The rate of inflation had already dropped by almost 2 full percentage points by the end of 1980, before Reagan took office, as your figures show.

The rate of inflation had already dropped another 2-3 full percentage points throughout the entirety of 1981, some of which Reagan had still not yet taken office and some of which he hadn't done anything at all yet, as your figures show.

Reagan had absolutely nothing to do with appointing Paul Volker, absolutely nothing to do with understanding what Volker planned to do and did about it, absolutely nothing to do with shouldering any of the heavy lifting and assuming any of the political risk in doing it and absolutely nothing to do with "getting a grip on inflation".

But Carter and his Fed Chairman appointee Paul Volker did.

EihTooms
02-09-22, 14:27
Not a gotcha moment ET Although your knowledge of the Carter Reagan years is a little sketchy. I merely quoted from the WSJ Opinion piece.

Reagan ran against Carter in 1980. He took the oath of office in January 1981.

Year Annual..But those are still pretty good figures for crediting Carter with something pony rider Reagan totally unjustifiably took credit for.

Yep, the Carter+Carter's 1979 Fed Chairman appointee Paul Volker solution to taming and reducing the rate of inflation began at least by early 1980 and was already producing the desired effect and result by 1981, as your figures show.

Although the full year figures you have provided here don't present nearly as fine a Carter record if success in this regard as your more detailed ones do in your next post about it.

In that other one, we can see how the Carter+Volker solution really began to produce the desired effect well before the 1980 election, well before Reagan took office in late January 1981 and certainly well before he would have even discussed so much as what to have for lunch with Carter's Fed Chairman appointee Paul Volker, much less encourage or direct him to do anything whatsoever different than what he had already been successfully doing about lowering the rate of inflation since late 1979. A conversation I doubt Reagan ever had with him anyway.

Elvis 2008
02-09-22, 16:36
Supply and demand is out of whack too https://www.thebalance.com/what-makes-oil-prices-so-high-3305654.

But sure, let's blame Biden. Sheesh.I do not why you say let's when it is not you.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/02/16/climate-change-clean-energy-jobs-economic-stability-column/4451356001/

"It is expected that reduced employment in fossil fuels through the transition can be more than offset by a rise in employment in renewables and construction," according to a study by the Global Commission on the Economy and Climate. It projects that a green energy transition could create $26 trillion in benefits across the global economy by 2030.

You will have to explain to me this novel approach on how to increase oil production while openly targeting the jobs of people in the oil industry.

You guys keep going back to supply and demand. In Q4 2021, world consumption was 99.7 million BPD. In Q2 2019, it was 101.26 million BPD. Production in Q4 2021 was 101.33 million BPD. In Q4 2021, despite higher prices, world production was only 98.33 million BPD.

So how come prices are higher now than in 2019?

You guys keep saying the issue is supply and demand, but the supply issue is not due to there not being capacity.

OPEC is not producing more oil because it knows the USA has capacity, and the USA is not producing more oil because of Biden.

That is what happens when you tell an industry your goal is to get every one of them fired.

Elvis 2008
02-09-22, 16:46
Oh, and, in the end, Reagan's average annual jobs creation result paled by comparison to Carter's. Carter's economy far surpassed Reagan and every other Repub going back to at least the Great Repub Depression on that count and, unlike Reagan, he accomplished that far superior result without tripling the National Debt.Right, and that is why Carter lost the election in a landslide because the American people were too stupid to see how good they had it under Carter.

But they had a chance again in 1984 and in that election Reagan's 525 electoral votes (out of 538) is the highest total ever received by a presidential candidate.

So the American people were stupid twice right Eih? They should have kept Carter in there with his gasoline rationing coupons and sweaters to fight high oil prices.

It is funny that I have two Dems lecturing me on supply and demand, and I have you, another Dem, who loves Carter and his government appointed oil prices.

ScatManDoo
02-09-22, 18:48
Bacon shut up in California because of Regulations posed by Democrats.

Responding by demeaning is the Democrat MO!It is because we have so much to laugh at when looking at the republican party.

So tell me Mr. Eat a lot:

Are you on the Trump side or the Pence side of Great Republican Divide of 2022?

On the TrumpShit side you have the big orange blob, McCarthy and most republicans, including the RNC that chose to censure Cheney and Kipzinger.

Opposing TrumpShit in recent days appears to be the alliance of McConnel, Christie, lackey Graham, Cheney and Kolloderhopper.

You need to choose one side or the other, or keep running for cover to the bathrooms, like (chicken shit) McCarthy did yesterday.

Once again, are you on the Trump or Pence side of the Great Republican Divide?

T or P?

ScatManDoo
02-09-22, 20:30
I for one, am far more amused and entertained by TrumpShit than any other political shit. So I will still talk about TrumpShit.

Most amusing today is T-Shits attack today on his most pathetic lackey, Lindsey Graham.

Graham had the audacity to say that the folks who attached the capital, and were convicted, should not receive blanket amnesty.

BTW: TrumpShit's declaration yesterday (and his doubling down today) that he would give his criminal houligan's amnesty.

Means he finally went too far.

He started, what will be, a straight line decline for him.

His popularity, even with members of his own party is going to begin its decline (if it didn't start already)..Man,

Did I ever call it when I wrote this post six days ago on February 3rd.

Because he makes money (suckering supporters) while campaigning, he is certain to run again in 2024.

American Carnage I guess means Republican Carnage.

Last year it meant Police Officer Carnage.

PVMonger
02-09-22, 21:13
Bacon shut up in California because of Regulations posed by Democrats.

Responding by demeaning is the Democrat MO!Did Biden put the California regulations in place?

Please respond to my original post which was "And yet farmers and ranchers sell their chickens, hogs and steers for less than last year. So, if farmers and ranchers receive less for their animals and consumer prices are up, who is making the money? It couldn't be greed from the processors, could it? Or greed from the supermarkets, could it?

Naaaaah, it is just easier to blame Biden instead of putting the blame where it belongs. On the corporations who are raising prices and announcing record profits. No wonder Republicans like their voters uneducated!

Meat processors profit margins were up 300% and ranchers were paid less. But, sure, let's blame Biden.

ScatManDoo
02-09-22, 23:16
No, the Bureau of Labor Statistics is what makes it real.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

To recap: Not only was inflation higher in Reagan's 3rd year in office, much closer to his re-election year than Biden is today, wages were in the crapper and we were in the latest 8 months of Reagan's whopping ten consecutive months of 10%+ Unemployment Rates. See and set the table in the above link to cover the Reagan years. Oh, and, in the end, Reagan's average annual jobs creation result paled by comparison to Carter's. Carter's economy far surpassed Reagan and every other Repub going back to at least the Great Repub Depression on that count and, unlike Reagan, he accomplished that far superior result without tripling the National Debt.I was attending economics courses at the university during Reagan's first two years in office.

The consensus of my professors at the time was that President Reagan was initially, intentionally triggering a recession to slow the economy and inflation. They said the plan looked as though government would change and start greasing the wheels in time for the economy to look comparatively better around the time of the next presidential election.

I graduated in 1982 with a degree in economics and spoke very little with my former professors my first year out of college. If I had, I would have congratulated them on calling it right.

EihTooms
02-10-22, 02:34
Right, and that is why Carter lost the election in a landslide because the American people were too stupid to see how good they had it under Carter.

But they had a chance again in 1984 and in that election Reagan's 525 electoral votes (out of 538) is the highest total ever received by a presidential candidate.

So the American people were stupid twice right Eih? They should have kept Carter in there with his gasoline rationing coupons and sweaters to fight high oil prices.

It is funny that I have two Dems lecturing me on supply and demand, and I have you, another Dem, who loves Carter and his government appointed oil prices.And typically pro Repub Mainstream Media's kid glove treatment of Teflon Ronnie after he took a bullet from an idiot trying to impress a lesbian movie star changed the actual, verifiable record of results how again?

EihTooms
02-10-22, 05:13
I was attending economics courses at the university during Reagan's first two years in office.

The consensus of my professors at the time was that President Reagan was initially, intentionally triggering a recession to slow the economy and inflation. They said the plan looked as though government would change and start greasing the wheels in time for the economy to look comparatively better around the time of the next presidential election.

I graduated in 1982 with a degree in economics and spoke very little with my former professors my first year out of college. If I had, I would have congratulated them on calling it right.Well, I have to disagree with your professors there. The purposely induced mini Recession triggered by Fed Chair Paul Volker raising Fed Fund rates in order to cool down an overheated economy, reverse the upward trajectory of the rate of inflation, tame it and bring it down steadily had already occurred in early 1980, long before Reagan took office. It was all the result of the work and Fed Chair appointment by Jimmy Carter.

As we can see in AxelHeyst's excellent timeline figures in one of his recent posts, the upward trajectory of the rate of inflation that shot up in 1979 peaked at about 14% in March 1980 and then immediately began to steadily decline, month over month for the next few years, almost in a straight line, nearly a year before Reagan had his first dance with Nancy at his inaugural ball.

Carter had appointed Volker to do what needed to be done in late 1979, knowing full well flirting with even a mini Recession purposely induced and even for positive economic reasons heading toward an election was politically risky as hell.

Reagan had absolutely zero to do with what had been done to tame inflation and was happening months and months before he took office. And no way would he have had the courage or smarts to do it anyway.

PVMonger
02-10-22, 05:37
I do not why you say let's when it is not you.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/02/16/climate-change-clean-energy-jobs-economic-stability-column/4451356001/

"It is expected that reduced employment in fossil fuels through the transition can be more than offset by a rise in employment in renewables and construction," according to a study by the Global Commission on the Economy and Climate. It projects that a green energy transition could create $26 trillion in benefits across the global economy by 2030.

You will have to explain to me this novel approach on how to increase oil production while openly targeting the jobs of people in the oil industry.

You guys keep going back to supply and demand. In Q4 2021, world consumption was 99.7 million BPD. In Q2 2019, it was 101.26 million BPD. Production in Q4 2021 was 101.33 million BPD. In Q4 2021, despite higher prices, world production was only 98.33 million BPD.

So how come prices are higher now than in 2019?

You guys keep saying the issue is supply and demand, but the supply issue is not due to there not being capacity..OPEC controls prices by increasing or decreasing production.

You can bloviate all you want about "the US isn't producing more oil because of Biden". I have provided numerous refutations to that nonsense but, as usual, you stick to the Fux "News" hogwash. US Oil companies aren't producing more because the stockholders want them to shore up their bottom lines.

And Biden said he wanted net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. He didn't call for firing the oil and gas industry. But sure, FUX "News" and the one-term, twice-impeached former guy probably said that and, predictably, you bought their BS skin-baloney-and-all.

And, by the way, was worldwide oil production in Q42021 101.33 BPD or was it 98.33 BPD? Because you said it was both.

Xpartan
02-10-22, 06:14
Right, and that is why Carter lost the election in a landslide because the American people were too stupid to see how good they had it under Carter.

But they had a chance again in 1984 and in that election Reagan's 525 electoral votes (out of 538) is the highest total ever received by a presidential candidate.

So the American people were stupid twice right Eih? They should have kept Carter in there with his gasoline rationing coupons and sweaters to fight high oil prices.Let's unbundle your rambling.

First, tens of millions of American people elected Donald Trump in 2016.

Trump, for fucks sake!

The POS Trump who by then had bankrupted his core businesses, regularly stiffed his contractors, defaulted on hundreds of millions in loans, and had to be saved by infamous Deutsche bank heavily involved with Russia.

Yeah, that fucking Trump.

And what do ya know. After he ruined our economy, killed hundreds of thousands of people with his Covid BS, and nearly destroyed our democracy, tens of millions of American people voted for that national disaster again in 2020.

And you're seriously asking me if American people can be stupid?

Fuck yes. American people can be incomprehensibly, extraordinarily dumb.

I'm sorry is that a bad thing to say? Well, never mind, I'm not running for office.

Having said that, Americans weren't dumb when they voted for Reagan in the 1980's.

It was a challenging time, and Reagan seemed better fit for office.

Why did Reagan beat Carter? It would be strange if he didn't.

The dude had charisma. He was very likable.

He could talk to his political opponents like they were his best friends. He wasn't called a great communicator for nothing.

He could lie very convincingly, and when he lied he looked like he believed in what he was saying, and maybe he did, at least sometimes.

Carter was a solid president, but he was honest. It was his honesty that did him in.

And clearly the Iranian hostage crisis helped a lot, and oh boy, did Ronnie milk that crisis for all it was worth!

EihTooms
02-10-22, 12:31
"Gazpacho Police" She presumably meant Gestapo Police.

"Yo, Semite"! He presumably meant USA's world famous Yosemite National Park.

"Anominus Anominus" he presumably meant anonymous.

"Oranges Oranges" he presumably meant origins.

Covfefe. Nobody knows.

https://thehill.com/gop-lawmakers/593631-marjorie-taylor-greene-lampooned-for-gazpacho-police-remark

Do winger Repubs even realize how laughable their idiotic slam of Biden is for supposedly being "cognitively impaired" while he has never, repeat never, said or written anyhing so utterly addle-brained and ignorant in all his decades of public service as their revered Dear Leaders have in just the past 5 years?

Seriously. Are those the people winger Repubs want to propose, guide and pass meaningful legislation that will impact the USA economy and life and death matters of National Security?

Or, rather, life and death matters in the expression of "Legitimate Political Discourse", as they would see it.

EatALotOpus
02-10-22, 13:16
Did Biden put the California regulations in place?

Please respond to my original post which was "And yet farmers and ranchers sell their chickens, hogs and steers for less than last year. So, if farmers and ranchers receive less for their animals and consumer prices are up, who is making the money? It couldn't be greed from the processors, could it? Or greed from the supermarkets, could it?

Naaaaah, it is just easier to blame Biden instead of putting the blame where it belongs. On the corporations who are raising prices and announcing record profits. No wonder Republicans like their voters uneducated!

Meat processors profit margins were up 300% and ranchers were paid less. But, sure, let's blame Biden.Obviously you're dead set in your believes and so am I so I'm not going into your rabbit hole.

PVMonger
02-10-22, 15:52
Obviously you're dead set in your believes and so am I so I'm not going into your rabbit hole.What you wrote is code for "Of course Biden didn't put the pork regulation in place. I worded it as "Democrats" so that I could try to get the libs to bite but nobody did. And of course I know that Big Business is making insane profits and ripping off consumers. But it is easier for the supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached former guy to blame Biden. After all, FUX "News" does and they never lie."

EihTooms
02-10-22, 16:51
U.S. inflation rate climbs to 7.5% after another sharp increase in consumer prices
Feb. 10, 2022.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/coming-up-consumer-price-index-11644498273


The 7.5% surge in the cost of living in the past 12 months is the biggest since February 1982.I am including AxelHeyst's excellent timeline figures below to show that, sure enough, the rate of inflation was higher under Reagan for two months in his second year in office, 1982. Of course, the Unemployment Rate at that time under Reagan was 8. 6%, 8. 9% and heading toward a whopping ten consecutive months of 10%+ Unemployment Rate months. Not like the Full Employment 4% rate we've got under Biden.

I also include those timeline figures here to further prove how the battle to reverse the upward trajectory of the rate of inflation in 1979, partially the result of Eisenhower's Iranian Revolution chickens coming home to roost, partially because Carter's economy had created a number and percentage increase in jobs at a clip unheard of during any Repub presidency before or since, had been waged and won as of March 1980 by Carter and his Fed Chairman appointee Paul Volcker, having absolutely nothing to do with Ronald Reagan or anything Reagan could have done or did, beginning its steady almost straight line decline months and months and months before Reagan took office.

AxelHeyst didn't include a link for the figures he posted as I did for my mine. See below. But they look about right to me:


Please ignore my previous response to you. It was sent off by accident before I could finish it. This is what I intended to post.

The data is available from the Federal Reserve.
...
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual.

1988 4. 047% 3. 943% 3. 925% 3. 904% 3. 890% 3. 965% 4. 130% 4. 021% 4. 174% 4. 250% 4. 246% 4. 419% 4. 078%.

1987 1. 460% 2. 104% 3. 033% 3. 775% 3. 857% 3. 653% 3. 927% 4. 284% 4. 356% 4. 533% 4. 529% 4. 434% 3. 665%.

1986 3. 886% 3. 113% 2. 256% 1. 590% 1. 491% 1. 766% 1. 577% 1. 574% 1. 754% 1. 472% 1. 284% 1. 098% 1. 898%.

1985 3. 533% 3. 516% 3. 704% 3. 686% 3. 772% 3. 761% 3. 554% 3. 349% 3. 143% 3. 229% 3. 514% 3. 799% 3. 546%.

1984 4. 192% 4. 597% 4. 801% 4. 564% 4. 234% 4. 221% 4. 204% 4. 291% 4. 270% 4. 257% 4. 051% 3. 949% 4. 301%.

1983 3. 712% 3. 488% 3. 598% 3. 899% 3. 549% 2. 577% 2. 462% 2. 559% 2. 860% 2. 851% 3. 265% 3. 791% 3. 212%.

1982 8. 391% 7. 622% 6. 780% 6. 510% 6. 682% 7. 064% 6. 441% 5. 850% 5. 043% 5. 139% 4. 589% 3. 830% 6. 131%.

1981 11.825% 11.407% 10.487% 10.000% 9. 780% 9. 553% 10.762% 10.804% 10.952% 10.142% 9. 591% 8. 922% 10.335%.

1980 13.909% 14.182% 14.756% 14.731% 14.406% 14.385% 13.133% 12.873% 12.601% 12.766% 12.648% 12.516% 13.549%.

1979 9. 280% 9. 857% 10.095% 10.485% 10.853% 10.890% 11.263% 11.818% 12.180% 12.072% 12.611% 13.294% 11.254%.

1978 6. 838% 6. 430% 6. 555% 6. 500% 6. 965% 7. 414% 7. 705% 7. 843% 8. 306% 8. 929% 8. 885% 9. 018% 7.631%.

1977 5.216% 5. 914% 6. 440% 6. 952% 6. 726% 6. 866% 6. 830% 6. 620% 6. 597% 6. 390% 6. 724% 6. 701% 6. 502%.

1976 6.718% 6. 286% 6. 072% 6. 049% 6. 203% 5. 970% 5. 351% 5. 709% 5. 495% 5. 464% 4. 882% 4. 865% 5.745%.

2021 1.400% 1. 676% 2. 620% 4. 160% 4. 993% 5. 391% 5. 365% 5. 251% 5. 390% 6. 222% 6. 809% 7. 036% 4.698%.

2020 2. 487% 2. 335% 1. 539% 0. 329% 0. 118% 0. 646% 0. 986% 1. 310% 1. 371% 1. 182% 1. 175% 1. 362% 1.234%.When Volcker began to raise the Fed Funds rate from 10% in 1979 to 15% and then to 20% in March 1980, that put a ceiling on the upward trajectory of the rate of inflation at 14.756%, immediately after which the trajectory totally reversed to a downward trajectory in the rate of inflation that continued to decline steadily, almost in a straight line, month after month for the rest of 1980, well into 1981 and continuing over the next couple of years, as you can see in the timeline figures above. Hyper-inflation had been tamed and the trajectory dramatically, demonstrably reversed as of March 1980.

Mid 1980 was also when Carter and Volcker's purposely induced mini Recession took place. It was "mini" because there was only one Quarter of notable negative GDP Growth at 7. 9%, the second quarter of 1980. But the next Quarter of 1980 only saw negative growth of less than one percentage point, at 0. 7%. And then the recovery 4th Quarter of 1980 came in positive at +7. 6%, essentially recovering most of what had been lost in the two previous quarters. The Unemployment Rate during that mini Recession only spiked up to 7. 8% for a single month, July 1980, and then that also immediately began to trend downward for the rest of 1980 and into 1981.

History of the Fed Funds Rate:

https://www.thebalance.com/fed-funds-rate-history-highs-lows-3306135

Click on Economy, then Real Gross Domestic Product, see chart:

https://www.economagic.com/real-gross-domestic-product/

Bureau of Labor Statistics Unemployment Rate Table:

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

As those timeline figures provided by AxelHeyst above show conclusively, Reagan had nothing to do with winning that battle over inflation. Nothing whatsoever. It was all thanks to Carter and his Fed Chairman Paul Volcker.

However, that didn't stop Reagan from taking full credit for it. LOL. A classic Repub con. It was the cornerstone of his entire "Morning in America" re-election ad campaign!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUMqic2IcWA

Lower inflation, all due to the courageous political risk-taking efforts, self-less patriotism and hard work done by Jimmy Carter and his Fed Chairman appointee Paul Volcker was the only good thing Reagan COULD cite about his first term. And that was a Carter+Volcker accomplishment that Reagan only inherited! Those "more people" pitches in that ad were only true because the youngest of the Baby Boom generation had just turned working age, about 16, the year Reagan was elected and the oldest of them, about 34, were still working and not even close to retirement. Of course, there were "more" people than ever before working, buying homes, getting married, whatever. Again, that had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with anything Ronald Reagan did from 1981 through 1984.

Now, what DID happen under Reagan's economic stewardship that had nothing to do with Carter or the inevitable Baby Boom demographic advantage taking place was he drove the country into the worst Great Recession since the Great Repub Depression of the late 1920/ early 1930's, tripled the National Debt trying to deal with it and produced a whopping ten consecutive months of 10%+ Unemployment Rates, none of which Reagan accomplishments got so much as a passing mention in that "Morning in America" ad. LOL.

Gee, I thought the exact opposite of all those things was supposed to happen after he got his idiotic Repub Supply-Side / Trickle-Down disproportionate high tax cuts for the top income margins on the table, cut all those annoying regulations, "starved the beast" and all that crap. I guess he was as wrong about that as every other idiotic Repub who tries it.

EihTooms
02-10-22, 17:10
Let's unbundle your rambling.

First, tens of millions of American people elected Donald Trump in 2016.

Trump, for fucks sake!

The POS Trump who by then had bankrupted his core businesses, regularly stiffed his contractors, defaulted on hundreds of millions in loans, and had to be saved by infamous Deutsche bank heavily involved with Russia.

Yeah, that fucking Trump.

And what do ya know. After he ruined our economy, killed hundreds of thousands of people with his Covid BS, and nearly destroyed our democracy, tens of millions of American people voted for that national disaster again in 2020.

And you're seriously asking me if American people can be stupid?

Fuck yes. American people can be incomprehensibly, extraordinarily dumb.It is no coincidence that the two most media-savvy people who ever occupied the Oval Office, thanks to their media-based careers prior to entering politics, Reagan and Trump, also switched from favoring the Democratic Party before they entered politics to join the Republican Party when they decided to enter politics. And they also happened to be the laziest, least engaged in the challenges of handling the job since "Silent Cal" Coolidge.

After decades of observing both Parties, can anyone imagine for one moment that Reagan but especially Trump would sign up with the Party that even he knew full well was expected to do all of the real work, all of the heavy lifting, assume all of the political risk-taking, all of the designing and tweaking complex legislation and programs that the country needed to recover from one Repub disaster after another, to actually produce historic jobs creation and business expansion results over and over again while Mainstream Media virtually never noticed or gave them credit for it? LOL.

Impossible.

No, they knew better than anyone that the side lazy deadbeats should sign up with was the Party that could easily and leisurely Know Nothing, Do Nothing, sit on their butts and gripe about the Dems, take full credit for every positive result accomplished by the Dems, if they did decide to put some crap legislation together it could and would be fine with Mainstream Media if it Crashed the economy and wiped out millions upon millions of jobs, as their economic legislation usually did, since Mainstream Media could never bring themselves to blame their beloved Repubs for it anyway.

Reagan knew it. Trump knew it.

EihTooms
02-10-22, 17:25
This was as of December. But the latest report for February will not change the reality of it much if at all. Even adjusting for inflation, Americans have more discretionary money in their pockets now than they did in 2019, before Trump's Pandemic brought us the Trump / Repub Crash and Recession.

Even after accounting for rising prices, the typical American family has more money in their pockets than they did last year.
Mostly True

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/07/joe-biden/do-us-families-have-more-money-their-pockets-now-d/


To zero in on how much Americans have "in their pockets" despite inflation, we turned to a statistic calculated by the federal Bureau of Economic Analysis: Per capita, inflation-adjusted disposable personal income. When we inquired, the White House confirmed to PolitiFact that this was the statistic Biden had in mind.

Disposable personal income refers to wage and salary income, plus government transfer payments like Social Security and unemployment insurance, minus taxes. Its the net of what Americans have left over to pay for all of their needs after theyve paid their taxes. The figure we used is adjusted for inflation and calculated on a per capita that is, a per person basis.See, this has to be the case. Why? Because unless there is more money in pockets to buy things, inflation can't possibly occur! Guess what; When we're out of money to spend and buy things, inflation will GO DOWN. I guarantee it. LOL.

Ah, this typical Repub hand-wringing over the "great evil" inflation that occurs when "evil" Dems recover the country from the usual Great Repub Crash and Recession seems to have a magical, mystical hold on some who really don't think it through very well. Or don't want to. And, yep, typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media does very little or nothing to educate them about it.

Canada
02-10-22, 19:25
OPEC controls prices by increasing or decreasing production.

You can bloviate all you want about "the US isn't producing more oil because of Biden". I have provided numerous refutations to that nonsense but, as usual, you stick to the Fux "News" hogwash. US Oil companies aren't producing more because the stockholders want them to shore up their bottom lines.

And Biden said he wanted net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. He didn't call for firing the oil and gas industry. But sure, FUX "News" and the one-term, twice-impeached former guy probably said that and, predictably, you bought their BS skin-baloney-and-all.

And, by the way, was worldwide oil production in Q42021 101.33 BPD or was it 98.33 BPD? Because you said it was both.Oil companies didn't stop drilling on federal land because they wanted to shore up their bottom line. They stopped drilling because Biden cancelled permits on all federal land. Because of this oil production dropped in USA in 2021 by over 1,000,000 barrels a day. Biden is being forced to allow more drilling and production will increase in 2022. Biden cancelled XL Pipeline which would have brought 840,000 barrels of cheap Canadian heavy crude to refineries and now we get to buy 800,000 barrels a day of Russian heavy oil at a higher price. OPEC has the most influence on oil prices and when they see USA production going down by Biden dumb policies they increase oil prices. It has been that way for 50 years. Oil companies bottom line is great. Stock prices are up 30% in January and went up 50% last year. Oil companies are paying huge dividends. Biden green policies are making oil companies rich.

Elvis 2008
02-10-22, 20:12
OPEC controls prices by increasing or decreasing production.No, they do not control prices. They used to. The USA is the swing producer. With shale, you can cut production off much more easily and quickly.


You can bloviate all you want about "the US isn't producing more oil because of Biden". I have provided numerous refutations to that nonsense but, as usual, you stick to the Fux "News" hogwash. US Oil companies aren't producing more because the stockholders want them to shore up their bottom lines.Sorry, that is wrong. The economics of drilling is great. "Drilling economics today are better than they've ever been since the shale revolution started," Chris Wright, chief executive officer at Liberty Oilfield Services, told Reuters.

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/90-oil-offers-best-ever-economics-us-shale

Supply chain challenges and higher labor and equipment costs could be stumbling blocks for USA Shale, especially for the basins with higher breakeven prices.

Gee, and whose fault is that?

Headline CPI and core CPI popped 0. 6% (0. 65%/0. 58% unrounded) mom in January, kicking off the new year with a positive inflation surprise. This boosted the yoy rates to 7. 5% from 7. 04% for headline and 6. 0% from 5. 5% for core both the highest since 1982 as noted above.

Are you Dems going to own that or is it the pandemic or Trump's fault? How come there was not this much inflation with Trump?

Back to the article: But the oil industry still has not recovered: Still, USA Crude oil production is set to hit a new record of 12.4 million barrels per day (bpd) in 2023, the Energy Information Administration (EIA) said in the January Short-Term Energy Outlook (STEO).

On Tuesday the EIA raised its production forecast, expecting USA Crude oil production to rise to an average of 12.0 million bpd in 2022 and 12.6 million bpd in 2023 an annual record high and 200,000 bpd above last month's estimate. The previous annual average record of 12.3 million bpd was set in 2019.

End of quote.

This is not shit. It is nowhere near enough. Oil production was up as much as a million BPD a year under Obama in his last few years and was up as high as 1. 5 million under Trump.


And, by the way, was worldwide oil production in Q42021 101.33 BPD or was it 98.33 BPD? Because you said it was both.101.33 was in Q4 2019.98. 33 was last quarter.

And USA oil production was less in 2021 than 2020. Whose fault is that? It is never Biden's fault about anything is it?


And Biden said he wanted net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. He didn't call for firing the oil and gas industry.With that statement, he may as well have.

And then look at the table from this article:

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/glimmer-of-hope-has-the-ship-gridlock-off-ports-finally-peaked

The number of container ships waiting for berths at the ports of LOS Angeles and Long Beach fell to 78 on Tuesday, the lowest tally in three months. That's down down 23% from 101 ships on Feb. 1 (the average for the month of January was also 101) and down 28% from the all-time high of 109 ships on Jan. 9, albeit still up 160% year on year.

Congratulations, maybe in another two years, you Dems can get that under ten like it was with Trump.

But maybe everything will be better if you Dems can get Joe Rogan and his "misinformation" off Spotify. That seems to be your #1 priority right now.

Elvis 2008
02-10-22, 20:18
Let's unbundle your rambling.

First, tens of millions of American people elected Donald Trump in 2016.

Trump, for fucks sake!

The POS Trump who by then had bankrupted his core businesses, regularly stiffed his contractors, defaulted on hundreds of millions in loans, and had to be saved by infamous Deutsche bank heavily involved with Russia.

Yeah, that fucking Trump..Yeah, no way people were better off with Reagan than Carter. The economy under Carter was as good as it is today under Biden. Biden's economy is better than Trump's and Carter's economy was better than Reagan's.

Xpartan, how many times were you dropped as a child?

Was inflation this high under Trump Xpartan? Now go ahead and make your pathetic sorry ass excuses.

Xpartan
02-10-22, 22:35
Obviously you're dead set in your believes and so am I so I'm not going into your rabbit hole.Well, that's convenient.

Lazy, but convenient, no doubt about that.

Although, if you're not willing to even consider your opponent's arguments, why start arguing to begin with?

ScatManDoo
02-10-22, 23:41
Well, that's convenient.

Lazy, but convenient, no doubt about that.

Although, if you're not willing to even consider your opponent's arguments, why start arguing to begin with?They get fed an over-abundance of retard right-wing talking points and not much else.

He might not be able to stop himself from spewing some uncontrollably.

Like all helpless newborns do.

ScatManDoo
02-11-22, 00:15
This offer has been out now for close to 48 hours.

Here in California, it is around 8 PM.

There have been no takers that I know of.

I will hold my offer open for about the next 50 hours.

If you want to make this bet with me, indicate in this thread before 10:00 PM (PST) on Thursday, February 10th.

I have been concerned about the Senate seat in Georgia.

Polls seen to favor republican athlete Herschel Walker over the incumbent democrat Raphael Warnock.

We'll see how that goes.It is now around 3:30 PM on Thursday, so my betting offer is closing in around 6 1/2 hours from now.

PVMonger
02-11-22, 00:37
Oil companies didn't stop drilling on federal land because they wanted to shore up their bottom line. They stopped drilling because Biden cancelled permits on all federal land. Because of this oil production dropped in USA in 2021 by over 1,000,000 barrels a day. Biden is being forced to allow more drilling and production will increase in 2022. Biden cancelled XL Pipeline which would have brought 840,000 barrels of cheap Canadian heavy crude to refineries and now we get to buy 800,000 barrels a day of Russian heavy oil at a higher price. OPEC has the most influence on oil prices and when they see USA production going down by Biden dumb policies they increase oil prices. It has been that way for 50 years. Oil companies bottom line is great. Stock prices are up 30% in January and went up 50% last year. Oil companies are paying huge dividends. Biden green policies are making oil companies rich.You really need to stop believing what you hear on FUX "News".

1. " They stopped drilling because Biden cancelled permits on all federal land. " Hogwash. https://www.audubon.org/news/despite-pledge-ban-it-oil-and-gas-permitting-under-biden.

2. "XL Pipeline". Hogwash. It wasn't even built yet. Coulda, woulda, shoulda doesn't matter.

3. "Oil companies bottom line is great". https://www.npr.org/2021/03/06/973649045/hold-that-drill-why-wall-street-wants-energy-companies-to-pump-less-oil-not-more.

4-x. All of the following articles refute your anti-Biden hogwash https://www.forbes.com/sites/daneberhart/2021/11/13/why-are-oil-prices-so-high-when-the-us-remains-one-of-the-worlds-largest-producers/?sh=17b42329ddfc and https://www.thebalance.com/what-makes-oil-prices-so-high-3305654 and https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/explained-why-are-crude-oil-prices-high-and-any-relief-in-sight-122012500016_1.html and https://apnews.com/article/why-are-gas-oil-prices-high-c949cd59a39fc62b5c37eed6838484bd and https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=50738.

But, hey, FUX "News" said Biden is to blame so, yeah, let's go with that. Sheesh.

EihTooms
02-11-22, 04:04
Yeah, no way people were better off with Reagan than Carter. The economy under Carter was as good as it is today under Biden. Biden's economy is better than Trump's and Carter's economy was better than Reagan's.

Xpartan, how many times were you dropped as a child?

Was inflation this high under Trump Xpartan? Now go ahead and make your pathetic sorry ass excuses.Well, yeah, Elvis, it looks like you did inadvertently lurch into some truth there.

Although your suggestion that Carter's economic results were as good as Biden's is highly debatable. After all, as bad as the Nixon / Ford economy and conditions were that Carter inherited and had to recovery America from, it wasn't nearly as nightmarish and disastrous as what Biden inherited from Trump and has been recovering us from at a historic clip and level.

Now, I have posted links in my previous posts for the history of Inflation, GDP Growth, Unemployment Rates, Jobs Creation or Losses by President including average annual gains, Recessions, stock market gains, etc.

Feel free to research, review, re-link and reference the actual, verifiable record and data in any and all of them to refute what you stated and that I highlighted above if you'd like.

Good luck with that. I've looked and I can't refute it.

PVMonger
02-11-22, 05:01
Yeah, no way people were better off with Reagan than Carter. The economy under Carter was as good as it is today under Biden. Biden's economy is better than Trump's and Carter's economy was better than Reagan's.

Xpartan, how many times were you dropped as a child?

Was inflation this high under Trump Xpartan? Now go ahead and make your pathetic sorry ass excuses.You could, of course, provide sources for your hogwash. But then, you'd have to do research and read the articles. But everybody knows that is simply too much work for you. So you post opinion and call it fact. No wonder you watch FUX "News" and believe them.

EatALotOpus
02-11-22, 14:58
They get fed an over-abundance of retard right-wing talking points and not much else.

He might not be able to stop himself from spewing some uncontrollably.

Like all helpless newborns do.My post, unlike yours that is based on mushroom feed rhetoric, was based on my personal experience I. E KFC and a report from CNBC an NBC Universal outlet.

Thus your post becomes very intelligent for someone devoid of facts!
Keep on mongering but don't spent your stimulus money. You may need it with this inflation!

ScatManDoo
02-11-22, 16:06
My post, unlike yours that is based on mushroom feed rhetoric, was based on my personal experience I. E KFC and a report from CNBC an NBC Universal outlet.

Thus your post becomes very intelligent for someone devoid of facts!
Keep on mongering but don't spent your stimulus money. You may need it with this inflation!More nothing from a nothing.

With farm producers getting paid less.

And grocery stores charging more.

Eat a lot.

When whining a lot about inflation.

Does not think a lot.

And understands nothing, like he is.

ScatManDoo
02-11-22, 17:21
Oil companies didn't stop drilling on federal land because they wanted to shore up their bottom line.That is exactly why domestic oil production is slowing down to a trickle.

10 to 20 years from now it is likely that more than half of new vehicles will not use gasoline as its primary fuel.

It would be foolish to spend a big part of (oil company) current budget on new drilling for new wells to produce oil in the future that won't be needed.

Buggy whip production slowed way down a hundred years ago. Canada decries that lost production capacity!

ScatManDoo
02-11-22, 17:33
More than 11 royal guardsmen had to hold the prince in restraints as he tried desperately this morning to wake and infect his Mother, the Queen.

ScatManDoo
02-11-22, 18:55
The Wisconsin primary is only a few days away.

Wisconsin is currently a purple state. I think it used to be a blue state. It sure looked blue in 1984 for George McGovern.

Most of its state government seats are filled with republican asses. Wisconsin went for Trump in 2016, not so much in 2020.

Current campaigners for the democratic party have their grassroots efforts this week in support of police, law and order and support of Democracy.

They're happy to point out that their opposition actively defunds police (no BBB), obstructs justice in all corners, all corners!, and supported the coup efforts that opposed democracy.

These Wisconsin activists encouraged democrats across the nation to join their phone banks.

Technology allows democrats, wherever they live, to link up and make phone calls this week.

Many of the republican candidates are folks supported by Donald Trump.

To sit on election boards and serve their leader's order for future elections.

Most of these local elections in off-year voting, get decided with low (often less than 20%) election voting rates. Democrats have issues, like preserving democracy, that is going to motivate many many more voters than usual. Some of whom can give an hour or two to burn up purple phones in Wisconsin this week. I am tempted.

The Republican platform is stuck on "Flippy Floppy TrumpShit".

Which belong in a toilet in Mar-a-logShit, instead of classified top secret papers.

Xpartan
02-11-22, 20:16
Yeah, no way people were better off with Reagan than Carter. The economy under Carter was as good as it is today under Biden. Biden's economy is better than Trump's and Carter's economy was better than Reagan's.

Xpartan, how many times were you dropped as a child?

Was inflation this high under Trump Xpartan? Now go ahead and make your pathetic sorry ass excuses.Oh Elvis! Don't strain yourself. Sarcasm doesn't work for everybody. I mean, have you seen Carson or Hannity trying to be funny? Not a pretty sight.

But anyway.

You're right, some people were better off with Reagan. Just like SOME people were better of with Trump. Your point?

The economy is doing great under Biden. What is it that you don't like, specifically? Inflation? Did you NOT like inflation when Trump gave his billionaire friends $2 trillion in unconditional tax cuts?


Inflation is nearing 6% this year and people are worried that it may continue to go up, returning us to the bad old days of double-digit inflation like we had in the 1970s and ’80s.

There are multiple causes. Republicans trying to blame President Joe Biden for this inflation point to the American Rescue Plan from this spring and the infrastructure plan that recently passed (and hasn’t yet put one penny into the economy). What they refuse to admit is that much of this inflation is the result of their tax cuts for wealthy Americans that has put $250 billion per year of stimulus money into our economy each year since 2018.

Economists of all stripes warned that putting that much stimulus into an already-growing economy was a mistake that would cause inflation to rise. Republicans were OK with inflation caused by tax cuts for the wealthy, but when the middle class shows up for the party looking for more jobs and higher wages, they decide it is time to take the punch bowl away.

If Republicans are serious about reducing the inflationary effects of stimulus spending, they could simply end former President Donald Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthy. https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2021/dec/03/tax-cuts-have-boosted-inflation/


You could, of course, provide sources for your hogwash.Nope. No, he couldn't, LOL.

Travv
02-11-22, 20:21
Washington, D. C. —Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was surprised to learn last week that black representation is very important to President Biden. This comes after Biden previously attempted to block Thomas's nomination while viciously attempting to destroy his life and reputation.

"Black representation matters, folks!" said Biden to a group of journalists outside the White House. "I have always been extremely passionate about black people being judges on, um, courts and stuff. It's all I've dreamt about since I was a young boy on the tough streets of Baltimore!

When asked about how he felt about Clarance Thomas being on the court despite his best efforts, Biden replied: "Who?" before reaching down to sniff his pet cat which he had mistaken for a very small child.

Thomas, who had been smeared over sexual harassment claims that were never actually filed, was humiliated on live TV by Joe Biden who, at the time was a 49-year-old balding racist serving in the senate. Biden turned the confirmation hearing into a circus because he disagreed with Clarence Thomas' views on a few things.

"I can't rightfully vote for someone who thinks babies deserve to live," said Biden at the time. "Plus, you're a black! Whoever heard of such an outlandish idea as a black on the court! I vote nay!

Biden reaffirmed his commitment to nominating a woman of color to the court yesterday, and promised to pick someone "clean and articulate."

Elvis 2008
02-11-22, 22:40
Oil companies didn't stop drilling on federal land because they wanted to shore up their bottom line. They stopped drilling because Biden cancelled permits on all federal land. Because of this oil production dropped in USA in 2021 by over 1,000,000 barrels a day. Biden is being forced to allow more drilling and production will increase in 2022. Biden cancelled XL Pipeline which would have brought 840,000 barrels of cheap Canadian heavy crude to refineries and now we get to buy 800,000 barrels a day of Russian heavy oil at a higher price. OPEC has the most influence on oil prices and when they see USA production going down by Biden dumb policies they increase oil prices. It has been that way for 50 years. Oil companies bottom line is great. Stock prices are up 30% in January and went up 50% last year. Oil companies are paying huge dividends. Biden green policies are making oil companies rich.Really good post Canada! I am not going to answer these Democratic anymore. You are right. The best things Biden has done for oil companies has been gone off to these climate change conferences and drawn a line in the sand with Russia. Maybe he should go to another of these conferences or ratchet up the war talk and oil will spike even higher than the $93 it has today. Some are talking $120 oil, and if anyone else were president, I would say no way can it go higher based on oil capacity and demand, but with this guy, all is possible.

His poll numbers are down to 37% approval with the handling of the economy, and the douches here keep telling us how great it is.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/10/politics/cnn-poll-biden-approval/index.html

Then you go to the misery index which Reagan pointed to when facing Mondale and Carter. Here are those results: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_index_(economics).

Truman was president since 1945 so I think the index is off with him and although Ford did well in office, he was only in office for 2 years and if you remove those two, you get Clinton and Reagan as the best presidents and I completely agree with both of those. Those were great economic times and both happened during periods of low oil prices.

The worst were Nixon and Carter, which I agree with as well, and both were associated with high oil prices.

And Biden is already off to a horrible start with both the misery index and oil prices.

Thing is when asked what people who disapprove of Biden said that he did right, 56% said nothing. That was no surprise to me.

What did surprise me is when CNN asked people who approve of Biden what has he done wrong, and the top answer, 26% was nothing.

So I agree with the poll. What has he done about inflation? Nothing. High oil prices? Nothing. What has he done to prevent war? Nothing. What good has he done with Covid? Nothing.

Biden is the nothing president.

Axel Heyst
02-12-22, 00:15
USA Consumer prices jumped by the most in nearly four decades as the new year started, sapping the savings of American families, diminishing the purchasing power of worker paychecks, and putting pressure on the Federal Reserve to hike interest rates beginning in March.

The consumer price index climbed 0. 6 percent from a month before, the Department of Labor said Thursday. Compared with January of last year, consumer prices are up 7.5 percent.

Inflation only began to accelerate last March after years of coming in below the Fed's two percent target. The Fed had decided to keep interest rates low although the economy was recovering at a faster than expected rate. What's more, the Biden administration pushed through billions of dollars of deficit spending in the American Rescue Plan. These combined to fuel demand for goods and services faster than supplies could expand, pushing up prices.

Federal Reserve chief Jerome Powell, following the advice of many of the economists on the central bank's staff, initially claimed that inflation was due to transitory factors. Fed officials forecast that inflation would fall in the latter half of 2021, predicting that supply chains would swiftly unsnarl and a rebalancing of consumer demand from goods to services would relieve pricing pressure. The Biden administration, under the tutelage of former Fed chair and now Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, largely followed suit and continued to press for even more spending.

Establishment media largely parrotted these views, portraying the surge in inflation as a temporary shift higher due to the reopening of the economy. Many establishment outlets described fears of longer-lasting inflation as the product of partisan fear-monger and claimed they had no rational basis. Some of the same outlets that had claimed, without evidence, that Trump's tariffs were raising prices now insisted price increases under Biden were no big deal. Some said that a silver lining of inflation would be higher wages. In fact, prices have been rising faster than wages, lowering the standard of living for many American families, and the hardest hit have been lower-income Americans.

That unanimity in government and establishment media proved calamitous. Inflation continued to soar, sapping the credibility of the Biden administration and the central bank when it came to inflation. Late last year, Fed officials dropped the word "transitory" from their vocabulary and began signaling that they would raise interest rates this year. Resistance from centrist Democrat Joe Manchin (D-WV) to spending more while the economy was suffering from decades-high inflation killed the Biden administration's push for a so-called "human infrastructure" spending bill that its advocates had touted as the signature legislation of President Joe Biden and the greatest expansion of government since FDR's New Deal and LBJ's Great Society.

The public's perception of President Biden's competence has collapsed. Many Americans interpreted the administration's confidence that inflation would pass to be a sign that it did not care about the hardships inflicted upon families paying more for gasoline, groceries, and Christmas gifts. Attempts by the administration to blame corporate greed for high prices fell flat. Although the Biden administration announced the biggest ever release of oil from the government's emergency reserve norm-defying dip into an asset normally held tightly and used only for events like natural disasters or warsoil and gasoline prices have continued to rise to the highest level in years.

Polls show the public's rating of Biden's handling of the economy is at a record low. Biden's overall approval rating has plummeted. Forty-five percent of Americans say inflation has put a strain on household finances.

The Federal Reserve is expected to raise its target interest rate in March, months earlier than market watchers thought last year. Swaps prices prior to the release of consumer prices on Thursday implied about a twenty-five percent chance that the Fed will raise its target by two notches, a half a percentage point, at the March meeting, breaking the recent pattern of raising the target by just one-quarter of a percentage point at each meeting. After the release, the odds of a half-point hike jumped to 44 percent. Fed watchers are also debating how many times the Fed will hike rates, with swaps prices now implying at least three and perhaps four hikes this year. Many analysts, however, increasingly think the Fed will hike five to seven times this year as inflation proves less tractable than officials believed.

ScatManDoo
02-12-22, 01:25
As a matter of fact they did find irregular voting practices in Maricopa County that affected the votes. The democrat secretary of state admitted that a few thousand votes for Biden and democrats were not legal votes but they believed the people at the voting sites didn't understand the rules. They said they just weren't trained properly and it was not done intentionally. Yeh right!There have been no such findings in the Multi Recounted, Multi Audited Arizona 2020 Biden election.

The only fraudulent ballots found in Arizona were two republican guys pretending to be their mothers.

And a slate of 11 FAKE electors that arrived at the state Capital with forged documents.

So 2 + 11, not thousands of illegal votes.

EihTooms
02-12-22, 03:33
USA Consumer prices jumped by the most in nearly four decades as the new year started, sapping the savings of American families, diminishing the purchasing power of worker paychecks, and putting pressure on the Federal Reserve to hike interest rates beginning in March.

The consumer price index climbed 0. 6 percent from a month before, the Department of Labor said Thursday. Compared with January of last year, consumer prices are up 7.5 percent.

Inflation only began to accelerate last March after years of coming in below the Fed's two percent target. The Fed had decided to keep interest rates low although the economy was recovering at a faster than expected rate. What's more, the Biden administration pushed through billions of dollars of deficit spending in the American Rescue Plan. These combined to fuel demand for goods and services faster than supplies could expand, pushing up prices.

Federal Reserve chief Jerome Powell, following the advice of many of the economists on the central bank's staff, initially claimed that inflation was due to transitory factors. Fed officials forecast that inflation would fall in the latter half of 2021, predicting that supply chains would swiftly unsnarl and a rebalancing of consumer demand from goods to services would relieve pricing pressure. The Biden administration, under the tutelage of former Fed chair and now Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, largely followed suit and continued to press for even more spending..Yes, the Fed might need to raise the Fed Funds rate to as much as 0. 75% before the end of this year to cool down Biden's roaring economy with so many more jobs being created than there are applicants to take them, and good, higher paying jobs at that.

It might indeed take Biden and this Fed Chairman a little longer to reverse the upward trajectory of inflation and start bringing it down in a steady decline than it took Carter and his Fed Chairman to fully accomplish that mission and win that battle back in early 1980.

For one thing, the unemployment rate under Biden today is even lower than it was under Carter at the time. So a lot more Americans have a lot more jobs, higher incomes and therefore more discretionary money to continue to spend and buy things that they'd been denied during more than a year of Trump's Pandemic economic shutdowns and paralysis.

And for another thing, well, Volcker was Dem Carter's Fed Chair appointee and he was brilliant. But Powell was Repub Trump's Fed Chair appointee that Biden had to keep on so as not to add one more element of disruption and uncertainty to the incredibly complicated challenge of pulling us out of the historic mess Trump made of everything.

And, of course, the Repubs would have shit all over any attempt by Biden to appoint a better Fed Chairman, being unable to resist the temptation to make the mess their guy made of everything even worse for America.

Elvis 2008
02-12-22, 03:48
The Federal Reserve is expected to raise its target interest rate in March, months earlier than market watchers thought last year. Swaps prices prior to the release of consumer prices on Thursday implied about a twenty-five percent chance that the Fed will raise its target by two notches, a half a percentage point, at the March meeting, breaking the recent pattern of raising the target by just one-quarter of a percentage point at each meeting. After the release, the odds of a half-point hike jumped to 44 percent. Fed watchers are also debating how many times the Fed will hike rates, with swaps prices now implying at least three and perhaps four hikes this year. Many analysts, however, increasingly think the Fed will hike five to seven times this year as inflation proves less tractable than officials believed.And that is what will destroy the few positives about the Biden economy. It is not that hard to grow an economy when the Fed keeps interest rates ultra low and prints money out of thin air. Thing is the Fed thought it could do so without creating inflation, and if we had a president who understood anything about economics, maybe things would have worked out.

His moves on oil (begging OPEC for more oil, releasing oil from the SPR, going to climate change conference after conference, and saying climate change means jobs) were completely moronic. And the DDs here tried to blame it on oil companies and supply when we are currently consuming less than what was produced in 2019. It is not an issue of not enough oil. It is an issue of a nothing as president.

Then Brandon wants to spend like crazy when there is a 40 year high with inflation which again is the worst thing you can do. It is time to tighten. The Fed gets that but President Nothing does not.

The sad and scary part is what comes next. President Nothing is going to start a war. Just you wait.

Russell Brand had a hilarious take on this. Watch this from the 5:12 mark. Funniest thing I have seen in a while:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4LhpS90wDo

Funny part is the DDs here think CNN is a respectable news source. Joe Rogan admits to being a comedian and entertainer but the sad part is that he is more trusted by his audience than CNN and now Russell Brand is killing it with his audience.

EihTooms
02-12-22, 03:58
Washington, D. C. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was surprised to learn last week that black representation is very important to President Biden. This comes after Biden previously attempted to block Thomas's nomination while viciously attempting to destroy his life and reputation.

"Black representation matters, folks!" said Biden to a group of journalists outside the White House. "I have always been extremely passionate about black people being judges on, um, courts and stuff. It's all I've dreamt about since I was a young boy on the tough streets of Baltimore!

When asked about how he felt about Clarance Thomas being on the court despite his best efforts, Biden replied: "Who?" before reaching down to sniff his pet cat which he had mistaken for a very small child.

Thomas, who had been smeared over sexual harassment claims that were never actually filed, was humiliated on live TV by Joe Biden who, at the time was a 49-year-old balding racist serving in the senate. Biden turned the confirmation hearing into a circus because he disagreed with Clarence Thomas' views on a few things.

"I can't rightfully vote for someone who thinks babies deserve to live," said Biden at the time. "Plus, you're a black! Whoever heard of such an outlandish idea as a black on the court! I vote nay!

Biden reaffirmed his commitment to nominating a woman of color to the court yesterday, and promised to pick someone "clean and articulate.When was the last time Clarence Thomas made a ruling that in any way benefitted black people or didn't contribute to the suppression of their vote?

MiamiSammy
02-12-22, 03:58
As a matter of fact they did find irregular voting practices in Maricopa County that affected the votes. The democrat secretary of state admitted that a few thousand votes for Biden and democrats were not legal votes but they believed the people at the voting sites didn't understand the rules. They said they just weren't trained properly and it was not done intentionally. Yeh right!No, they didn't. The only irregularities and potential fraud at this point is from the Trump Administration and their attempt to confiscate voting machines. That being said, don't you have enough shit to worry about in Canada without worrying your pretty little head about the US?

Elvis 2008
02-12-22, 03:58
https://www.thewrap.com/tucker-carlson-liberal-viewership-fox-news/

The Nielsen MRI Fusion numbers reveal that in October, Fox News unsurprisingly got the majority of the audience of self-proclaimed Republicans, with 69% of them overall tuning into total-day programming and 73% of them in the demo tuning into primetime programming. CNN and MSNBC split the remaining conservatives with totals in the low double-digit percentages. Fox News also commanded the largest number of independents in the key news demo during primetime and total-day hours: 55% of those 25-54 watched the network in primetime, compared to CNN's 23% and MSNBC's 22%. During total-day hours, 58% of independents in the demo watch Fox News, 18% chose MSNBC and 25% selected CNN.

And yet the DDs here are constantly making fun of Fox News. Maybe this will change their mind.

More surprising are the stats about Carlson and Fox News' pull with self-proclaimed Democrats. Of those demo-aged viewers surveyed who identified as Democrats, 39% chose Fox News, 31% chose MSNBC and 30% chose CNN for programming from 8 pm ET to 11 pm ET. In total-day viewership, Fox News grabbed 42% of Democrats aged 25-54, CNN nabbed 33% and MSNBC got 25%.

Of the top four programs among Democrats in total viewers, Fox News had three: "The Five," "Tucker Carlson Tonight" and "Hannity. " The top spot in total viewers went to MSNBC's "The Rachel Maddow Show."

These numbers only account for October but reveal that Fox News' and Carlson's sizable audiences are not that easy to define. Consider Carlson's ratings that month. In October, Carlson's show was the top-rated program in the demo across all of cable news and was the second highest-rated show overall, coming in only behind Fox News' late-afternoon panel show "The Five. " In total average viewers, he netted 3. 081 million viewers and in the demo, he secured 483,000. For the entire year of 2021, "Tucker Carlson Tonight" was the highest-rated program in cable news overall, bringing in an average of 3. 214 million total viewers with 535,000 in the demo.

Earlier Tuesday, Nielsen released January's ratings, which also provided a big win to Fox News. The network hit the milestone of becoming the top-rated cable news channel for 20 straight years.

Gee, I wonder why so many people including Democrats watch Fox News. It was funny I went to look at MSNBC's news site to see if it was following the trucker's story in Canada, and I was not surprised to see it was not. Four of the top ten stories on PMSNBC's site, I kid you not, were about Trump. Seriously.

And now Rachel Meadow is taking a break. What is poor PMSNBC going to do?

MiamiSammy
02-12-22, 04:03
Oil companies didn't stop drilling on federal land because they wanted to shore up their bottom line. They stopped drilling because Biden cancelled permits on all federal land. Because of this oil production dropped in USA in 2021 by over 1,000,000 barrels a day. Biden is being forced to allow more drilling and production will increase in 2022. Biden cancelled XL Pipeline which would have brought 840,000 barrels of cheap Canadian heavy crude to refineries and now we get to buy 800,000 barrels a day of Russian heavy oil at a higher price. OPEC has the most influence on oil prices and when they see USA production going down by Biden dumb policies they increase oil prices. It has been that way for 50 years. Oil companies bottom line is great. Stock prices are up 30% in January and went up 50% last year. Oil companies are paying huge dividends. Biden green policies are making oil companies rich.Again, bullshit. The XL pipeline was designed to carry tar oil directly to ships that would then ship to India and the rest of Asia. There was never any intent for this nasty shit to be used in the US, it's too dirty to be used in our plants. BTW, it's heating oil, not petroleum grade. Therefore, the loss of the XL Pipeline had absolutely no effect on the price of gas, or the price of fucking tea in China, for that matter. Try to look in the mirror and understand just how profoundly ignorant you are and STFU.

MiamiSammy
02-12-22, 04:07
No, they didn't. The only irregularities and potential fraud at this point is from the Trump Administration and their attempt to confiscate voting machines. That being said, don't you have enough shit to worry about in Canada without worrying your pretty little head about the US?At this point over 60 separate state and federal courts have dismissed all lawsuits claiming voter fraud or irregularities. This probably the most fair election and certainly the most reviewed election in history. THERE WAS NO VOTER FRAUD. Even had there been problems in Maricopa county, WHICH THERE WEREN'T, the Arizona electorate vote wouldn't have changed the election.

MiamiSammy
02-12-22, 04:10
USA Consumer prices jumped by the most in nearly four decades as the new year started, sapping the savings of American families, diminishing the purchasing power of worker paychecks, and putting pressure on the Federal Reserve to hike interest rates beginning in March.

The consumer price index climbed 0. 6 percent from a month before, the Department of Labor said Thursday. Compared with January of last year, consumer prices are up 7.5 percent.

Inflation only began to accelerate last March after years of coming in below the Fed's two percent target. The Fed had decided to keep interest rates low although the economy was recovering at a faster than expected rate. What's more, the Biden administration pushed through billions of dollars of deficit spending in the American Rescue Plan. These combined to fuel demand for goods and services faster than supplies could expand, pushing up prices.

Federal Reserve chief Jerome Powell, following the advice of many of the economists on the central bank's staff, initially claimed that inflation was due to transitory factors. Fed officials forecast that inflation would fall in the latter half of 2021, predicting that supply chains would swiftly unsnarl and a rebalancing of consumer demand from goods to services would relieve pricing pressure. The Biden administration, under the tutelage of former Fed chair and now Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, largely followed suit and continued to press for even more spending.

Establishment media largely parrotted these views, portraying the surge in inflation as a temporary shift higher due to the reopening of the economy. Many establishment outlets described fears of longer-lasting inflation as the product of partisan fear-monger and claimed they had no rational basis. Some of the same outlets that had claimed, without evidence, that Trump's tariffs were raising prices now insisted price increases under Biden were no big deal. Some said that a silver lining of inflation would be higher wages. In fact, prices have been rising faster than wages, lowering the standard of living for many American families, and the hardest hit have been lower-income Americans.

That unanimity in government and establishment media proved calamitous. Inflation continued to soar, sapping the credibility of the Biden administration and the central bank when it came to inflation. Late last year, Fed officials dropped the word "transitory" from their vocabulary and began signaling that they would raise interest rates this year. Resistance from centrist Democrat Joe Manchin (D-WV) to spending more while the economy was suffering from decades-high inflation killed the Biden administration's push for a so-called "human infrastructure" spending bill that its advocates had touted as the signature legislation of President Joe Biden and the greatest expansion of government since FDR's New Deal and LBJ's Great Society.

The public's perception of President Biden's competence has collapsed. Many Americans interpreted the administration's confidence that inflation would pass to be a sign that it did not care about the hardships inflicted upon families paying more for gasoline, groceries, and Christmas gifts. Attempts by the administration to blame corporate greed for high prices fell flat. Although the Biden administration announced the biggest ever release of oil from the government's emergency reserve norm-defying dip into an asset normally held tightly and used only for events like natural disasters or warsoil and gasoline prices have continued to rise to the highest level in years.

Polls show the public's rating of Biden's handling of the economy is at a record low. Biden's overall approval rating has plummeted. Forty-five percent of Americans say inflation has put a strain on household finances.

The Federal Reserve is expected to raise its target interest rate in March, months earlier than market watchers thought last year. Swaps prices prior to the release of consumer prices on Thursday implied about a twenty-five percent chance that the Fed will raise its target by two notches, a half a percentage point, at the March meeting, breaking the recent pattern of raising the target by just one-quarter of a percentage point at each meeting. After the release, the odds of a half-point hike jumped to 44 percent. Fed watchers are also debating how many times the Fed will hike rates, with swaps prices now implying at least three and perhaps four hikes this year. Many analysts, however, increasingly think the Fed will hike five to seven times this year as inflation proves less tractable than officials believed.What's your point? Did you really think we'the get through a pandemic that's killed almost a million Americans without similar economic catastrophic events? SERIOUSLY? BTW, Harry Truman had a 22% favorability rating in October of 1948. Ask Thomas Dewey how that worked out for him.

MiamiSammy
02-12-22, 04:14
Really good post Canada! I am not going to answer these Democratic anymore. You are right. The best things Biden has done for oil companies has been gone off to these climate change conferences and drawn a line in the sand with Russia. Maybe he should go to another of these conferences or ratchet up the war talk and oil will spike even higher than the $93 it has today. Some are talking $120 oil, and if anyone else were president, I would say no way can it go higher based on oil capacity and demand, but with this guy, all is possible.

His poll numbers are down to 37% approval with the handling of the economy, and the douches here keep telling us how great it is.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/10/politics/cnn-poll-biden-approval/index.html

Then you go to the misery index which Reagan pointed to when facing Mondale and Carter. Here are those results: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_index_(economics).

Truman was president since 1945 so I think the index is off with him and although Ford did well in office, he was only in office for 2 years and if you remove those two, you get Clinton and Reagan as the best presidents and I completely agree with both of those. Those were great economic times and both happened during periods of low oil prices.

The worst were Nixon and Carter, which I agree with as well, and both were associated with high oil prices.

And Biden is already off to a horrible start with both the misery index and oil prices.

Thing is when asked what people who disapprove of Biden said that he did right, 56% said nothing. That was no surprise to me.

What did surprise me is when CNN asked people who approve of Biden what has he done wrong, and the top answer, 26% was nothing.

So I agree with the poll. What has he done about inflation? Nothing. High oil prices? Nothing. What has he done to prevent war? Nothing. What good has he done with Covid? Nothing.

Biden is the nothing president.Only an uneducated idiot thinks an American President has control over oil prices. While your eyes glaze over as you fawn over your own voice, your grasp of anything beyond a Fantasy Football season is tenuous at best. Don't worry your pretty head about these things- let the smart folks fix it for you.

MiamiSammy
02-12-22, 04:16
Washington, D. C. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was surprised to learn last week that black representation is very important to President Biden. This comes after Biden previously attempted to block Thomas's nomination while viciously attempting to destroy his life and reputation.

"Black representation matters, folks!" said Biden to a group of journalists outside the White House. "I have always been extremely passionate about black people being judges on, um, courts and stuff. It's all I've dreamt about since I was a young boy on the tough streets of Baltimore!

When asked about how he felt about Clarance Thomas being on the court despite his best efforts, Biden replied: "Who?" before reaching down to sniff his pet cat which he had mistaken for a very small child.

Thomas, who had been smeared over sexual harassment claims that were never actually filed, was humiliated on live TV by Joe Biden who, at the time was a 49-year-old balding racist serving in the senate. Biden turned the confirmation hearing into a circus because he disagreed with Clarence Thomas' views on a few things.

"I can't rightfully vote for someone who thinks babies deserve to live," said Biden at the time. "Plus, you're a black! Whoever heard of such an outlandish idea as a black on the court! I vote nay!

Biden reaffirmed his commitment to nominating a woman of color to the court yesterday, and promised to pick someone "clean and articulate."Clarence Thomas is a piece of shit that should have been put on trial rather than nominated to SCOTUS. Uncle Thomas- Uncle Tom for short.

ScatManDoo
02-12-22, 04:17
Polls show the public's rating of Biden's handling of the economy is at a record low. Biden's overall approval rating has plummeted. Forty-five percent of Americans say inflation has put a strain on household finances.

The Federal Reserve is expected to raise its target interest rate in March, months earlier than market watchers thought last year. Swaps prices prior to the release of consumer prices on Thursday implied about a twenty-five percent chance that the Fed will raise its target by two notches, a half a percentage point, at the March meeting, breaking the recent pattern of raising the target by just one-quarter of a percentage point at each meeting. After the release, the odds of a half-point hike jumped to 44 percent. Fed watchers are also debating how many times the Fed will hike rates, with swaps prices now implying at least three and perhaps four hikes this year. Many analysts, however, increasingly think the Fed will hike five to seven times this year as inflation proves less tractable than officials believed.Polls Shmoles.

Out here in one of California's retirement villages.

The villagers have been screaming that the interest rates on their savings grow from. 15% to over 2%.

Seems like financial-type things are returning more to normal under senior Joe Biden.

Thank god.

ScatManDoo
02-12-22, 04:56
Washington, D. C. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was surprised to learn last week that black representation is very important to President Biden. This comes after Biden previously attempted to block Thomas's nomination while viciously attempting to destroy his life and reputation.

"Black representation matters, folks!" said Biden to a group of journalists outside the White House. "I have always been extremely passionate about black people being judges on, um, courts and stuff. It's all I've dreamt about since I was a young boy on the tough streets of Baltimore!

When asked about how he felt about Clarance Thomas being on the court despite his best efforts, Biden replied: "Who?" before reaching down to sniff his pet cat which he had mistaken for a very small child.

Thomas, who had been smeared over sexual harassment claims that were never actually filed, was humiliated on live TV by Joe Biden who, at the time was a 49-year-old balding racist serving in the senate. Biden turned the confirmation hearing into a circus because he disagreed with Clarence Thomas' views on a few things.

"I can't rightfully vote for someone who thinks babies deserve to live," said Biden at the time. "Plus, you're a black! Whoever heard of such an outlandish idea as a black on the court! I vote nay!

Biden reaffirmed his commitment to nominating a woman of color to the court yesterday, and promised to pick someone "clean and articulate.I am sure that Joe Boden's opposition to Clarence Uncle Tom's appointment to the Supreme Court.

Was because he didn't want a bad lawyer on the bench.

Thomas is bottom half.

ScatManDoo
02-12-22, 05:46
Biden reaffirmed his commitment to nominating a woman of color to the court yesterday, and promised to pick someone "clean and articulate."As long as she "Speaks Well" the RNCult might not censure her.

Xpartan
02-12-22, 06:18
What's your point? Did you really think we'the get through a pandemic that's killed almost a million Americans without similar economic catastrophic events? SERIOUSLY? BTW, Harry Truman had a 22% favorability rating in October of 1948. Ask Thomas Dewey how that worked out for him.Even worse than the Pandemic for the inflation is the $2 trillion tax cuts gifts Trump unconditionally gave to his billionaire friends for absolutely no reason at all.

Here you go: here is some money, it's free.

Not surprisingly, every time the crackpots read or hear about these $2 billions, they pretend to be blind and deaf.

Huh, huh, what's that?

Xpartan
02-12-22, 06:27
Clarence Thomas is a piece of shit that should have been put on trial rather than nominated to SCOTUS. Uncle Thomas- Uncle Tom for short.The point is that while Biden voted against Thomas, he was responsible for shutting down Anita Hill's testimony. That clenched the POS Thomas' confirmation.

In other words, Biden enabled one of the worst justices ever. I don't know what crackpots are complaining about, corrupt judges are their thing.

Elvis 2008
02-12-22, 10:06
Only an uneducated idiot thinks an American President has control over oil prices.https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/675589

The oil embargo struck in October of 1973. In November of 1973, Nixon signed the Emergency Petroleum Allocation Act which further regulated oil prices. The Act created a two-tiered pricing system. "Old oil" those wells drilled before 1973 had a price ceiling of $5. 25 a barrel ($19.44 in 2011 dollars). "New oil" was defined as oil from wells that began operation after 1972, or production from old wells above the wells' 1972 production levels. The price of new oil could be as high as $11 per barrel ($40.74 per barrel in 2011 dollars), close to the world price at the time of roughly $12 per barrel ($44.44).

Who is the idiot now? Congratulations, Sammy, you earn the title of DD.

EihTooms
02-12-22, 10:58
What's your point? Did you really think we'the get through a pandemic that's killed almost a million Americans without similar economic catastrophic events? SERIOUSLY? BTW, Harry Truman had a 22% favorability rating in October of 1948. Ask Thomas Dewey how that worked out for him.Winger Repubs always pretend to be angered and exasperated over the fact that these Great Dem Recoveries from Great Repub Crashes and Recessions are never as smooth sailing and hassle-free as their beloved Great Repub Crashes and Recessions go.

Gee, it seemed so easy for Hoover, Reagan, Bush2 and Trump to plunge the economy into a spectacular downturn, why can't the Dems clean up the Repub mess and get us back to normal better, faster, easier and without it costing anybody anything the way their Repub counterparts always assure us they could do it but never, ever do? As FDR so eloquently pointed out about his idiot Repub adversaries once upon a time.

Or maybe they really are so stupid to be genuinely angered and exasperated over such a thing and aren't pretending at all.

I remember when Obama-Biden and the Dems were pulling us out of the spectacular mess of a downturn produced by classic failed Repub policies and stewardship at the hands of Bush2 and his fellow Repubs. It was a slower Great Dem Recovery from a Great Repub Crash and Recession than previous ones because that time around the Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repubs did not merely largely get out of the way and let the Dems handle it.

No, that time around Moscow Mitch decided the most advantageous political strategy for their side with the first black man in the Oval Office was to obstruct, impede, slow-walk and thwart every known and proven effective recovery effort by Obama and the Dems in as close to total Repub unanimity as is possible for the Party.

And, politically, it did work for them as witnessed by the worst possible outcome of imo the most critical election in the past couple of decades, the 2010 Midterms. Lousy for the country, but a great political strategy for the Repub Party. As would have to be the case, of course.

But it took an astonishing summit of ignorance and arrogance for Repubs to spend nearly all 8 of the Obama-Biden administration years belly-aching about the Dems' still amazing historical Recovery from what was in those pre-Trump days the worst Great Repub Crash and Recession since the Hoover years because it was "the slowest" Great Dem Recovery lately! LOL.

If you listen closely, you'll still hear idiotic Repubs belly-aching about how "slow" that one was compared to all the others.

Now it appears they're belly-aching over how scary fast and too much too soon too effective this Biden-Harris Great Dem Recovery is from Trump's Great Repub Crash and Recession.

PVMonger
02-12-22, 17:47
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/675589

The oil embargo struck in October of 1973. In November of 1973, Nixon signed the Emergency Petroleum Allocation Act which further regulated oil prices. The Act created a two-tiered pricing system. "Old oil" those wells drilled before 1973 had a price ceiling of $5. 25 a barrel ($19.44 in 2011 dollars). "New oil" was defined as oil from wells that began operation after 1972, or production from old wells above the wells' 1972 production levels. The price of new oil could be as high as $11 per barrel ($40.74 per barrel in 2011 dollars), close to the world price at the time of roughly $12 per barrel ($44.44).

Who is the idiot now? Congratulations, Sammy, you earn the title of DD.What did the Emergency Petroleum Allocation Act do? Fast forward to 1974 when we had odd-even gas rationing. And higher prices on gasoline than ever before. So, no, the President tried and failed at controlling gasoline prices.

As an aside, was Nixon and the Republican party (prior to signing the Emergency Petroleum Allocation Act) for or against doing so. They were against it.

So, Elvis, it appears that you are a Republican Douche. But we already knew that.

PVMonger
02-12-22, 17:59
Washington, D. C. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas was surprised to learn last week that black representation is very important to President Biden. This comes after Biden previously attempted to block Thomas's nomination while viciously attempting to destroy his life and reputation.

"Black representation matters, folks!" said Biden to a group of journalists outside the White House. "I have always been extremely passionate about black people being judges on, um, courts and stuff. It's all I've dreamt about since I was a young boy on the tough streets of Baltimore!

When asked about how he felt about Clarance Thomas being on the court despite his best efforts, Biden replied: "Who?" before reaching down to sniff his pet cat which he had mistaken for a very small child.

Thomas, who had been smeared over sexual harassment claims that were never actually filed, was humiliated on live TV by Joe Biden who, at the time was a 49-year-old balding racist serving in the senate. Biden turned the confirmation hearing into a circus because he disagreed with Clarence Thomas' views on a few things.

"I can't rightfully vote for someone who thinks babies deserve to live," said Biden at the time. "Plus, you're a black! Whoever heard of such an outlandish idea as a black on the court! I vote nay!.There was a report the other day that I saw online. I can't find the report now for some reason. I thought I saved it but I didn't.

Anyway, the report detailed a test given to various people of different political stripes. The object of the exercise was to determine the how much "race" influenced somebody's choice for a Supreme Court Justice.

The first exercise involved showing the credentials (and nothing more) of 4 potential nominees and having the respondents say whether the person was 1. Highly Qualified; 2. Qualified or 3. Unqualified. There was virtually no difference between the respondents answers based upon the political party of the respondent and most (like 80%) respondents said the nominees were highly qualified and no respondent said that the nominees were unqualified.

The second exercise involved showing the picture of the nominee and the credentials and asking the same question. For each nominee, there was very little change on how Democrats viewed the nominee. However, almost 80% of Republicans said that the nominees were unqualified.

Canada
02-12-22, 19:38
Winger Repubs always pretend to be angered and exasperated over the fact that these Great Dem Recoveries from Great Repub Crashes and Recessions are never as smooth sailing and hassle-free as their beloved Great Repub Crashes and Recessions go.

Gee, it seemed so easy for Hoover, Reagan, Bush2 and Trump to plunge the economy into a spectacular downturn, why can't the Dems clean up the Repub mess and get us back to normal better, faster, easier and without it costing anybody anything the way their Repub counterparts always assure us they could do it but never, ever do? As FDR so eloquently pointed out about his idiot Repub adversaries once upon a time.

Or maybe they really are so stupid to be genuinely angered and exasperated over such a thing and aren't pretending at all.

I remember when Obama-Biden and the Dems were pulling us out of the spectacular mess of a downturn produced by classic failed Repub policies and stewardship at the hands of Bush2 and his fellow Repubs. It was a slower Great Dem Recovery from a Great Repub Crash and Recession than previous ones because that time around the Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repubs did not merely largely get out of the way and let the Dems handle it.

No, that time around Moscow Mitch decided the most advantageous political strategy for their side with the first black man in the Oval Office was to obstruct, impede, slow-walk and thwart every known and proven effective recovery effort by Obama and the Dems in as close to total Repub unanimity as is possible for the Party..Please advise me when the great economic recovery happens in the Biden presidency. All we have seen so far is people returning to their prepandemic jobs and highest inflation in 4 decades. There are still less people working now than in Trump prepandemic years. People returning to their jobs has nothing to do with Biden success. Biden was only successful in getting gas prices and food prices to skyrocket. But Biden success includes putting millions of people back into poverty. All the increases in peoples wages during Trump presidency is gone to Biden record inflation. There is no comparing Biden to Trump as Biden is so totally incompetent. As bad as some people think Trump was Biden has proved to be far worse.

Canada
02-12-22, 19:40
Polls Shmoles.

Out here in one of California's retirement villages.

The villagers have been screaming that the interest rates on their savings grow from. 15% to over 2%.

Seems like financial-type things are returning more to normal under senior Joe Biden.

Thank god.Nothing normal about record inflation at 7.5%. Making 2% interest won't pay the increase in housing, transportation, gas and food. Losing proposition under Biden.

Canada
02-12-22, 19:45
Again, bullshit. The XL pipeline was designed to carry tar oil directly to ships that would then ship to India and the rest of Asia. There was never any intent for this nasty shit to be used in the US, it's too dirty to be used in our plants. BTW, it's heating oil, not petroleum grade. Therefore, the loss of the XL Pipeline had absolutely no effect on the price of gas, or the price of fucking tea in China, for that matter. Try to look in the mirror and understand just how profoundly ignorant you are and STFU.Then why are we buying heavy oil from Russia. USA can only get heavy oil from Canada, Venezuela and Russia. Are you telling me Biden shut down the heavy oil refineries in USA. Can you please provide proof that USA has shut down their heavy oil refineries.

Canada
02-12-22, 19:51
The Wisconsin primary is only a few days away.

Wisconsin is currently a purple state. I think it used to be a blue state. It sure looked blue in 1984 for George McGovern.

Most of its state government seats are filled with republican asses. Wisconsin went for Trump in 2016, not so much in 2020.

Current campaigners for the democratic party have their grassroots efforts this week in support of police, law and order and support of Democracy.

They're happy to point out that their opposition actively defunds police (no BBB), obstructs justice in all corners, all corners!, and supported the coup efforts that opposed democracy.

These Wisconsin activists encouraged democrats across the nation to join their phone banks.

Technology allows democrats, wherever they live, to link up and make phone calls this week.

Many of the republican candidates are folks supported by Donald Trump.

To sit on election boards and serve their leader's order for future elections..We can't wait for the midterms. This forum will be a little quieter when Republicans have the House and Senate control. Democrats are panicking already. They are finally listening to the science and dropping the mask mandate in their cities trying to get votes. They are even going to start funding the police. It is going to be a happy November.

ScatManDoo
02-12-22, 20:13
I think we should all be a bit sad today. Biden's Build Back Better bill has been stalled. I was so looking forward to this fantastic legislation that was opposed by so many because we did not understand like Eihtooms. I was crying in my beer. I so wanted the BBB present for Christmas.

Can you imagine how many out there are preying for Manchin to change his mind or scheming for his undoing?

But it does not matter. The article of the day is here: https://www.salon.com/2010/02/23/democrats_34/.

The author of the article is liberal Glenn Greenwald and he followed up this 12 year old story with this tweet: That it's all Joe Manchin's fault, that the Good and Compassionate Democrats would have done such great things for America's poor and working class if not for this sole Bad Senator, is the game they always play. Here's what I wrote in Salon in *2010 (:

The primary tactic in this game is Villain Rotation. They always have a handful of Democratic Senators announce that they will be the ones to deviate this time from the ostensible party position and impede success, but the designated Villain constantly shifts, so the Party itself can claim it supports these measures while an always-changing handful of their members invariably prevent it.Life long democrat Donald Trump will continue his dismatling of the evil party and give the democrats stronger majorities after the midterms.

I like that the Donald has found his calling, and is deaf enough to stay focused on it.

Elvis 2008
02-12-22, 20:35
The point is that while Biden voted against Thomas, he was responsible for shutting down Anita Hill's testimony.It cracks me up, another DD attempt to rewrite history. Anita Hill was a fucking liar. https://www.dailywire.com/news/6-pieces-evidence-anita-hill-was-lying-amanda-prestigiacomo.


That clenched the POS Thomas' confirmation.Clenched?


In other words, Biden enabled one of the worst justices ever.Yes, because with you DDs, you recall that Anita Hill was a beacon of truth when she was a liar. She was an angel and Carter was a great president. LMFAO.

Any time a Republican judge comes up for nomination who may threaten Roe v. Wade, that judge is going to have these mysterious (and unprovable) stories of sexual misconduct.

Cali Guy
02-12-22, 20:55
Only an uneducated idiot thinks an American President has control over oil prices. While your eyes glaze over as you fawn over your own voice, your grasp of anything beyond a Fantasy Football season is tenuous at best. Don't worry your pretty head about these things- let the smart folks fix it for you.Most presidents can't control oil prices. Biden put a war against oil his first day of office. Cancelling XL Pipeline and cancelling drilling permits on federal land stopped alot of the drilling and most of the exploration domestically. Result was less oil produced creating a shortage. Creating a shortage raised prices. OPEC sees USA with a shortage of oil and they manipulate prices higher. Biden begs OPEC to produce more oil. OPEC sees USA in trouble and raises prices again. Trump had North America not dependent on OPEC and energy independent. In one year Biden has USA dependent on foreign oil.

Only an uneducated idiot thinks that a dumb president creating a shortage does not raise prices.

Cali Guy
02-12-22, 21:00
https://www.thewrap.com/tucker-carlson-liberal-viewership-fox-news/

The Nielsen MRI Fusion numbers reveal that in October, Fox News unsurprisingly got the majority of the audience of self-proclaimed Republicans, with 69% of them overall tuning into total-day programming and 73% of them in the demo tuning into primetime programming. CNN and MSNBC split the remaining conservatives with totals in the low double-digit percentages. Fox News also commanded the largest number of independents in the key news demo during primetime and total-day hours: 55% of those 25-54 watched the network in primetime, compared to CNN's 23% and MSNBC's 22%. During total-day hours, 58% of independents in the demo watch Fox News, 18% chose MSNBC and 25% selected CNN.

And yet the DDs here are constantly making fun of Fox News. Maybe this will change their mind.

More surprising are the stats about Carlson and Fox News' pull with self-proclaimed Democrats. Of those demo-aged viewers surveyed who identified as Democrats, 39% chose Fox News, 31% chose MSNBC and 30% chose CNN for programming from 8 pm ET to 11 pm ET. In total-day viewership, Fox News grabbed 42% of Democrats aged 25-54, CNN nabbed 33% and MSNBC got 25%.Great report. That is why Fox News will remain number 1 over the next 10 years too.

Cali Guy
02-12-22, 21:04
Polls Shmoles.

Out here in one of California's retirement villages.

The villagers have been screaming that the interest rates on their savings grow from. 15% to over 2%.

Seems like financial-type things are returning more to normal under senior Joe Biden.

Thank god.Biden is turning California retirement villages into poverty villages. Most seniors are on fixed incomes and this record inflation is killing them. There are no retirees stupid enough to have had their retirement funds in accounts paying. 15% interest. No one is this stupid other than possibly the guy that suggested it.

Cali Guy
02-12-22, 21:08
Again, bullshit. The XL pipeline was designed to carry tar oil directly to ships that would then ship to India and the rest of Asia. There was never any intent for this nasty shit to be used in the US, it's too dirty to be used in our plants. BTW, it's heating oil, not petroleum grade. Therefore, the loss of the XL Pipeline had absolutely no effect on the price of gas, or the price of fucking tea in China, for that matter. Try to look in the mirror and understand just how profoundly ignorant you are and STFU.Obviously you know nothing about USA oil. Are you really this profoundly ignorant?

Cali Guy
02-12-22, 21:11
Yes, the Fed might need to raise the Fed Funds rate to as much as 0. 75% before the end of this year to cool down Biden's roaring economy with so many more jobs being created than there are applicants to take them, and good, higher paying jobs at that.

It might indeed take Biden and this Fed Chairman a little longer to reverse the upward trajectory of inflation and start bringing it down in a steady decline than it took Carter and his Fed Chairman to fully accomplish that mission and win that battle back in early 1980.

For one thing, the unemployment rate under Biden today is even lower than it was under Carter at the time. So a lot more Americans have a lot more jobs, higher incomes and therefore more discretionary money to continue to spend and buy things that they'd been denied during more than a year of Trump's Pandemic economic shutdowns and paralysis.

And for another thing, well, Volcker was Dem Carter's Fed Chair appointee and he was brilliant. But Powell was Repub Trump's Fed Chair appointee that Biden had to keep on so as not to add one more element of disruption and uncertainty to the incredibly complicated challenge of pulling us out of the historic mess Trump made of everything.Experts are predicting an increase of 100 basis points or 1% rate increase this year to try to slow down Biden skyrocketing inflation. And this might not solve it. Biden is a mess.

Canada
02-12-22, 21:22
That is exactly why domestic oil production is slowing down to a trickle.

10 to 20 years from now it is likely that more than half of new vehicles will not use gasoline as its primary fuel.

It would be foolish to spend a big part of (oil company) current budget on new drilling for new wells to produce oil in the future that won't be needed.

Buggy whip production slowed way down a hundred years ago. Canada decries that lost production capacity!Since you know nothing about oil production and you just fabricate lies you probably should know that a typical oil well production is less than 10 years. If we stop drilling now in 10 years we will be 100% importing foreign oil at $200 a barrel. Biden has to increase oil production in USA this year or mid terms will be a bloodbath for democrats. Don't worry about oil companies budgets. They are just ramping up drilling in the rest of the world. Oil companies will spend billions drilling this year and employing thousands of people. If not on USA soil then worldwide. Other countries economies will boom and USA will suffer. All because of an incompetent president.

ScatManDoo
02-12-22, 22:59
In September 2021, after she had been earnestly working on the House Select Subcommittee for around two months, Liz Cheney was promoted to co-chairpersonship, alongside Nancy Pekosi. A well-deserved promotion for the lady now likely to be our first female President.

Elvis 2008
02-13-22, 02:49
Most presidents can't control oil prices. Biden put a war against oil his first day of office. Cancelling XL Pipeline and cancelling drilling permits on federal land stopped alot of the drilling and most of the exploration domestically. Result was less oil produced creating a shortage. Creating a shortage raised prices. OPEC sees USA with a shortage of oil and they manipulate prices higher. Biden begs OPEC to produce more oil. OPEC sees USA in trouble and raises prices again. Trump had North America not dependent on OPEC and energy independent. In one year Biden has USA dependent on foreign oil.

Only an uneducated idiot thinks that a dumb president creating a shortage does not raise prices.Yeah, I do not see what is so hard to get about this. Biden pretty much told oil producers he wanted to put them out of business. I do not see what is so hard about that. Companies lost a huge amount of money when Keystone was cut off, and Brandon did not give a fuck. Well, maybe he cares now. Thing is I am not sure if he said he made a mistake and said it was okay that anyone would take it up again. That is how little he is trusted.

When I was out in the Permian country, there was a shortage of pipeline capacity. Maybe there is not now because production is down, but there was, and I have to tell you the pipeline companies are not fucking touching blue states which insures they will have higher energy prices as it is the cheapest way to transport fossil fuels.

Other thing going on was because of a lack of pipelines that Carlos Slim stepped in and is putting in a pipeline from Pecos to Juarez. If the Western USA is stupid enough not to want natural gas, Mexico will be happy to take it.

MarquisdeSade1
02-13-22, 03:58
Experts are predicting an increase of 100 basis points or 1% rate increase this year to try to slow down Biden skyrocketing inflation. And this might not solve it. Biden is a mess.https://www.infowars.com/posts/republicans-introduce-hunter-act-to-block-taxpayer-funds-for-crack-pipes/

EihTooms
02-13-22, 04:14
Life long democrat Donald Trump will continue his dismatling of the evil party and give the democrats stronger majorities after the midterms.

I like that the Donald has found his calling, and is deaf enough to stay focused on it.I have long disapproved of Twitter and Facebook muzzling Trump. In fact, I consider it another form of pro Repub election campaigning by the media. America is much better informed about his and his slavishly obedient Party when we read those blithering Trump idiocies on an hourly basis.

I firmly believe the decline in Biden / Dem Approval and Favorable ratings in the polls of late has a lot to do with the fact that Americans are not as exposed as they should be to the America-hating lunacy rattling around in the otherwise empty noggins of the alternative.

Imagine how sky high the ratings for Biden and the Dems would be today if all Americans were exposed to the America-hating winger Repub blather we read every day on this forum.

EihTooms
02-13-22, 04:39
Experts are predicting an increase of 100 basis points or 1% rate increase this year to try to slow down Biden skyrocketing inflation. And this might not solve it. Biden is a mess.OMG!

1 whole percent increase? To a whopping 1.25 percent?

Since neither you nor Elvis nor Canada nor any other winger Repub looked at the History of Inflation, GDP Growth, Jobs Creation, Fed Funds Rates, etc links that I have posted and been able to come up with any citations illustrating how, for example, Reagan's overall economic policies, stewardship, accomplishments and record of results were better than Carter's rather than the other way around, we can all assume you also have no idea what the Fed Funds Rate was in 1988, Reagan's last year in office.

Although by then I doubt Reagan knew what it was either.

EihTooms
02-13-22, 05:34
See, this is why America is much better served when media like Twitter and Facebook are not muzzling Trump and thereby helping to "improve" his chances of getting himself and his Party more votes.

Trump is out there now on the 2022 Midterm and 2024 Presidential campaign trail, flappin' his yap, opening his piehole, being heard more than any time in the past year blathering the same ignorant America-hating winger Repub nonsense we read here.

And as a consequence?

Behold:

Bidens Loss Isnt Trumps Gain.
Trumps Falling Star.
Joe Bidens approval ratings may have slipped, but that doesnt mean voters are nostalgic for Donald Trump

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2022-02-11/bidens-loss-isnt-trumps-gain


His favorability ratings are well underwater, and key voter groups that propelled him to the White House have soured on him. Twice as many people say they'd be less likely to vote for a congressional candidate endorsed by him, compared to those who say they'd be more likely to vote for the down-ticket contenders. In a hypothetical rematch in 2024, he'd lose to his 2020 opponent.

The numbers are not looking good right now for Donald Trump, whose iron grip over the Republican Party appears to be weakening. And while the former president still has substantial influence with party brass witnessed by the Republican National Committee censuring two lawmakers participating in the investigation of the Jan. 6 insurrection Trump's power is not what it once was, experts and pollsters say.

No nostalgia for the Trump years is a good way of putting it," says Charles Franklin, director of the Marquette Law School Poll. While some Democrats have been unhappy with President Joe Biden of late, "what those Democrats haven't done is decided they voted for the wrong guy," Franklin says...

ScatManDoo
02-13-22, 07:19
Since you know nothing about oil production and you just fabricate lies you probably should know that a typical oil well production is less than 10 years. If we stop drilling now in 10 years we will be 100% importing foreign oil at $200 a barrel. Biden has to increase oil production in USA this year or mid terms will be a bloodbath for democrats. Don't worry about oil companies budgets. They are just ramping up drilling in the rest of the world. Oil companies will spend billions drilling this year and employing thousands of people. If not on USA soil then worldwide. Other countries economies will boom and USA will suffer. All because of an incompetent president.There is a large mosaic of holes in the ground where companies have been sucking up oil for more than 30 or 40 years.

Oil companies are no longer putting many these 20+ year wonders in place anymore, Future need is projected to be insufficient.

ScatManDoo
02-13-22, 08:01
We can't wait for the midterms. This forum will be a little quieter when Republicans have the House and Senate control. Democrats are panicking already. They are finally listening to the science and dropping the mask mandate in their cities trying to get votes. They are even going to start funding the police. It is going to be a happy November.You were pretty darn silent when there was a bet offer on Democrats maintaining their thin control of the Senate.

Canada couldn't risk betting even a dollar.

MarquisdeSade1
02-13-22, 08:17
USA Consumer prices jumped by the most in nearly four decades as the new year started, sapping the savings of American families, diminishing the purchasing power of worker paychecks, and putting pressure on the Federal Reserve to hike interest rates beginning in March.

The consumer price index climbed 0. 6 percent from a month before, the Department of Labor said Thursday. Compared with January of last year, consumer prices are up 7.5 percent.

Inflation only began to accelerate last March after years of coming in below the Fed's two percent target. The Fed had decided to keep interest rates low although the economy was recovering at a faster than expected rate. What's more, the Biden administration pushed through billions of dollars of deficit spending in the American Rescue Plan. These combined to fuel demand for goods and services faster than supplies could expand, pushing up prices.https://amgreatness.com/2022/02/10/what-does-the-corporate-media-mean-when-they-say-theres-no-evidence-of-voter-fraud/

EihTooms
02-13-22, 13:49
Please advise me when the great economic recovery happens in the Biden presidency. All we have seen so far is people returning to their prepandemic jobs and highest inflation in 4 decades. There are still less people working now than in Trump prepandemic years. People returning to their jobs has nothing to do with Biden success. Biden was only successful in getting gas prices and food prices to skyrocket. But Biden success includes putting millions of people back into poverty. All the increases in peoples wages during Trump presidency is gone to Biden record inflation. There is no comparing Biden to Trump as Biden is so totally incompetent. As bad as some people think Trump was Biden has proved to be far worse.We can play that game too!

The jobs Trump's economy added before his economic decisions wiped out millions of them? Yeah, those were just Bush2's workers slowly returning to their jobs 10 years after Bush2's economic decisions wiped out millions of them.

The fewer average annual jobs than Carter that Reagan "added"? Yeah, those were just people slowly returning to work after Herbert Hoover's economic decisions wiped out millions of them.

Hey, this is fun!

Shhhh. Don't tell the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics about this new game of yours. They'll insist on changing the rules to be more, you know, sane.

Sorry we can't draw jobs from any Dem administration of the past 100 years. It turns out none of them wiped out millions of jobs. They only created millions of them.

Axel Heyst
02-13-22, 14:05
Durham Reports that Clinton Campaign Paid to 'Infiltrate' Trump Tower, White House Servers. The allegation is:

"Lawyers for the Clinton campaign paid a technology company to "infiltrate" servers belonging to Trump Tower, and later the White House, in order to establish an "inference" and "narrative" to bring to government agencies linking Donald Trump to Russia, a filing from Special Counsel John Durham says."

"In connection with these efforts, Tech Executive-1 exploited his access to non-public and / or proprietary Internet data," the filing states. "Tech Executive-1 also enlisted the assistance of researchers at a USA -based university who were receiving and analyzing large amounts of Internet data in connection with a pending federal government cybersecurity research contract."

"Tech Executive-1 tasked these researchers to mine Internet data to establish 'an inference' and 'narrative' tying then-candidate Trump to Russia," Durham states. "In doing so, Tech Executive-1 indicated that he was seeking to please certain 'VIPs,' referring to individuals at Law Firm-1 and the Clinton campaign."

"Former chief investigator of the Trump-Russia probe for the House Intelligence Committee under then-Rep. Devin Nunes, are-Calif. , Kash Patel, said the filing "definitively shows that the Hillary Clinton campaign directly funded and ordered its lawyers at Perkins Coie to orchestrate a criminal enterprise to fabricate a connection between President Trump and Russia."

If these allegations hold up and are true, it will bigger than Watergate.

Canada
02-13-22, 16:43
We can play that game too!

The jobs Trump's economy added before his economic decisions wiped out millions of them? Yeah, those were just Bush2's workers slowly returning to their jobs 10 years after Bush2's economic decisions wiped out millions of them.

The fewer average annual jobs than Carter that Reagan "added"? Yeah, those were just people slowly returning to work after Herbert Hoover's economic decisions wiped out millions of them.

Hey, this is fun!

Shhhh. Don't tell the USA Bureau of Labor Statistics about this new game of yours. They'll insist on changing the rules to be more, you know, sane.

Sorry we can't draw jobs from any Dem administration of the past 100 years. It turns out none of them wiped out millions of jobs. They only created millions of them.You just proved my point. If you are saying Trump numbers were not good and Biden still has not achieved Trump numbers then you are admitting Biden created no jobs. Thanks.

PVMonger
02-13-22, 17:19
https://amgreatness.com/2022/02/10/what-does-the-corporate-media-mean-when-they-say-theres-no-evidence-of-voter-fraud/https://news.yahoo.com/turkey-lower-taxes-basic-foods-132005785.html

Text of the article follows.

Istanbul (AP) — Turkey's president announced a significant reduction in taxes on basic food supplies Saturday as the country faces rampant inflation and numerous protests over eroding living standards.

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said the value-added tax would be lowered to 1% from 8% on food purchases. His decision will be published in the Official Gazette and go into effect on Monday.

Erdogan said, in addition to the tax discount, the government "expects" food companies to lower their prices by 7%. He said these foods play a significant part in inflation.

Official data for January showed inflation rose to a staggering 48.69% annually, although independent experts say the true number is much higher, more than 115%.

"We will not let inflation crush our nation," Erdogan said.

Critics, however, say the country is suffering from high inflation because of Erdogan's insistence on lowering interest rates. He believes inflation is caused by high interest rates, in opposition to established economic theory.

The central bank, whose independence has been eroded by the government, had brought down the key policy rate by 500 points since September to 14%, but paused rate cuts in January.

A currency crisis was triggered by the cuts and the Turkish lira hit record lows in December. Because Turkey relies on imports for its energy needs as well as raw materials and many food supplies, prices have skyrocketed.

The government insists that Turkey's economic downturn has been caused by foreign interference and external factors. Erdogan declared Saturday that Turkey would combat the "threats to destroy our economy" with all available means.

The lira closed this week at 13.49 against the dollar. The record low in December was 18.36. The currency has been hovering around 13.5 since that record low after the government instituted a new financial tool to push savers away from buying foreign currencies and encourage them to convert their dollars to Turkish liras with a deposit scheme protected against currency fluctuations.

Households and businesses have been suffering from sharp hikes in energy prices. Authorities raised electricity tariffs on Jan. 1, spiking prices by more than 50% for many homes and as much as 127% for businesses and high-consumption households. Some protests have broken out and many small businesses like restaurants have been sharing their electricity bills on social media to show how close they are to being driven out of business.

Strikes are also taking place in Turkey as inflation erodes the value of workers' paychecks. Cargo, food delivery, factory and warehouse workers have halted work at numerous companies and social media campaigns to boycott companies that don't raise salaries are continuing.

Thousands of health-care workers went on a one-day strike Tuesday, demanding better working conditions and pay, as well as measures to protect them against increased verbal and physical assaults from patients or their relatives.

Turkey's minister of treasury and finance, Nureddin Nebati, also announced a step to encourage people to bring gold that they have been saving. He said 1,500 gold drop-off locations would begin operation on March 1 to integrate the precious metal into the financial system as deposits. He added people would be able to withdraw their gold in physical form if they wished to.

PVMonger
02-13-22, 17:25
Durham Reports that Clinton Campaign Paid to 'Infiltrate' Trump Tower, White House Servers. The allegation is:

"Lawyers for the Clinton campaign paid a technology company to "infiltrate" servers belonging to Trump Tower, and later the White House, in order to establish an "inference" and "narrative" to bring to government agencies linking Donald Trump to Russia, a filing from Special Counsel John Durham says."

"In connection with these efforts, Tech Executive-1 exploited his access to non-public and / or proprietary Internet data," the filing states. "Tech Executive-1 also enlisted the assistance of researchers at a USA -based university who were receiving and analyzing large amounts of Internet data in connection with a pending federal government cybersecurity research contract."

"Tech Executive-1 tasked these researchers to mine Internet data to establish 'an inference' and 'narrative' tying then-candidate Trump to Russia," Durham states. "In doing so, Tech Executive-1 indicated that he was seeking to please certain 'VIPs,' referring to individuals at Law Firm-1 and the Clinton campaign."

"Former chief investigator of the Trump-Russia probe for the House Intelligence Committee under then-Rep. Devin Nunes, are-Calif. , Kash Patel, said the filing "definitively shows that the Hillary Clinton campaign directly funded and ordered its lawyers at Perkins Coie to orchestrate a criminal enterprise to fabricate a connection between President Trump and Russia."

If these allegations hold up and are true, it will bigger than Watergate.This is all an attempt to distract from the January 6th insurrection and the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy's attempt at concealing Presidential documents. Nothing more.

PVMonger
02-13-22, 17:35
Yeah, I do not see what is so hard to get about this. Biden pretty much told oil producers he wanted to put them out of business. I do not see what is so hard about that. Companies lost a huge amount of money when Keystone was cut off, and Brandon did not give a fuck. Well, maybe he cares now. Thing is I am not sure if he said he made a mistake and said it was okay that anyone would take it up again. That is how little he is trusted.

When I was out in the Permian country, there was a shortage of pipeline capacity. Maybe there is not now because production is down, but there was, and I have to tell you the pipeline companies are not fucking touching blue states which insures they will have higher energy prices as it is the cheapest way to transport fossil fuels..Well, you were right when you said "maybe not now". That's because every shale oil exec in the US is smarter than you because, as the shale oil execs say "Even if oil went to $100 a barrel and the world was short of supply. " The shale major CEO explained this was because the service costs associated with adding more drilling rigs would undermine profit margins'.

There you have it folks! Right out of the mouths of the guys who run shale oil. The "bottom line" is their only concern. I suspect that if they feel that they can get Republican douches to blame high prices on somebody else, they'll be just fine.

ScatManDoo
02-13-22, 17:37
Durham Reports that Clinton Campaign Paid to 'Infiltrate' Trump Tower, White House Servers. The allegation is:

"Lawyers for the Clinton campaign paid a technology company to "infiltrate" servers belonging to Trump Tower, and later the White House, in order to establish an "inference" and "narrative" to bring to government agencies linking Donald Trump to Russia, a filing from Special Counsel John Durham says."

"In connection with these efforts, Tech Executive-1 exploited his access to non-public and / or proprietary Internet data," the filing states. "Tech Executive-1 also enlisted the assistance of researchers at a USA -based university who were receiving and analyzing large amounts of Internet data in connection with a pending federal government cybersecurity research contract."

"Tech Executive-1 tasked these researchers to mine Internet data to establish 'an inference' and 'narrative' tying then-candidate Trump to Russia," Durham states. "In doing so, Tech Executive-1 indicated that he was seeking to please certain 'VIPs,' referring to individuals at Law Firm-1 and the Clinton campaign..I really need to laugh out loud at AxeHole's post here, especially his well thought out conclusion:


If these allegations hold up and are true, it will (be) bigger than Watergate.How did Hillary Clinton gain from "Fabricating a connection between president TrumpShit and Russia"?

Was Hillary Clinton's gross gain at TrumpShit's expense much greater than what Nixon's spying on the democratic party elite benefitted Nixon?

You would need that Koo-Koo crazy result to have happened 'for 'these allegations, if true, will bigger than Watergate'.

So tell me Axel Heyst, since you seem to like ranking historical scandals:

How do you think it would rank up against Middle Eastern and Russian spies poring over classified top secret documents in Mar-a- Lago Florida December and last month. Top Secret material that TrumpShit stole from the White House?

Rank that Shit.

(soon you too will grow tired of defending that piece of shit and give up like your brethren).

Travv
02-13-22, 19:04
Inglewood, CA—President Joe Biden is planning to wipe out the National Debt with a genius double or nothing bet on the Cincinnati Bengals.

Biden held a meeting with the Treasury Department to go over the plan.

"My bookie, ole Jiffy Dan, was a little hesitant to accept a $30 Trillion bet but I says to him, 'Look, Jiffy Baby, if you hook me up I'll pardon you for all your illegal gambling," said Biden.

He then explained how Jiffy Dan was a smart Black man from South Central who was surprisingly articulate before Dr. Jill Biden reminded him to act less racist.

"Look, here's the honest truth, Jack," said Biden, refocused. "The Bengals are in it to win it. They do that and the slate is clean. No more debt!

Sources in the Treasury Department reveal everyone in the meeting disagreed with the president's plan except for the one guy they're pretty sure is a Chinese plant.

"President Xidung, I think this is a great idea," said Xau Fong.

The Bengals are the current underdogs going into this year's Super Bowl, but economic experts say this was the only way Jiffy Dan would accept such a large bet.

"If we lose, at least only half the debt goes to China. The rest will go to this Jiffy guy," said economic strategist Brent Esther. "Maybe that wouldn't be so bad."

PVMonger
02-13-22, 20:32
Inglewood, CAPresident Joe Biden is planning to wipe out the National Debt with a genius double or nothing bet on the Cincinnati Bengals.

Biden held a meeting with the Treasury Department to go over the plan.

"My bookie, ole Jiffy Dan, was a little hesitant to accept a $30 Trillion bet but I says to him, 'Look, Jiffy Baby, if you hook me up I'll pardon you for all your illegal gambling," said Biden.

He then explained how Jiffy Dan was a smart Black man from South Central who was surprisingly articulate before Dr. Jill Biden reminded him to act less racist.

"Look, here's the honest truth, Jack," said Biden, refocused. "The Bengals are in it to win it. They do that and the slate is clean. No more debt!

Sources in the Treasury Department reveal everyone in the meeting disagreed with the president's plan except for the one guy they're pretty sure is a Chinese plant.

"President Xidung, I think this is a great idea," said Xau Fong.Republicans, because they think that everything Tucker "Only an idiot would believe anything I say" Carlson says is true probably believe this post is true as well.

But it isn't, even though the Republican douche who posted it didn't even bother to provide a source. The article appeared in the well-knows (at least to Democrats) satire site called "The Babylon Bee". https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-goes-double-or-nothing-on-national-debt-by-placing-30-trillion-on-the-bengals.

Elvis 2008
02-13-22, 20:58
Well, you were right when you said "maybe not now". That's because every shale oil exec in the US is smarter than you because, as the shale oil execs say "Even if oil went to $100 a barrel and the world was short of supply. " The shale major CEO explained this was because the service costs associated with adding more drilling rigs would undermine profit margins'.The "maybe not now" line had to do with pipeline capacity. You are doing as you always do and changing the subject to one you think you can win.

I am not sure you know the difference between profit margins and net profit or maybe you do and are trying your usual tried and true method of bullshitting. Drilling may diminish profit margins while at the same time causing net profits to grow.

Of course, I do not know what this has anything to do with what I posted which is pretty typical of your responses to my posts.

Elvis 2008
02-13-22, 21:01
Inglewood, CAPresident Joe Biden is planning to wipe out the National Debt with a genius double or nothing bet on the Cincinnati Bengals.

Biden held a meeting with the Treasury Department to go over the plan.

"My bookie, ole Jiffy Dan, was a little hesitant to accept a $30 Trillion bet but I says to him, 'Look, Jiffy Baby, if you hook me up I'll pardon you for all your illegal gambling," said Biden.

He then explained how Jiffy Dan was a smart Black man from South Central who was surprisingly articulate before Dr. Jill Biden reminded him to act less racist.

"Look, here's the honest truth, Jack," said Biden, refocused. "The Bengals are in it to win it. They do that and the slate is clean. No more debt!

Sources in the Treasury Department reveal everyone in the meeting disagreed with the president's plan except for the one guy they're pretty sure is a Chinese plant.

"President Xidung, I think this is a great idea," said Xau Fong.

The Bengals are the current underdogs going into this year's Super Bowl, but economic experts say this was the only way Jiffy Dan would accept such a large bet.Given how badly Brandon has managed the economy, this would actually be a good plan. I put it at close to 100% right now that the USA economy is going to be hit hard due to the actions of the Fed and Brandon. Hell, the yield curve has partially inverted.

A 50-50 chance is much better. I wish the chances the economy improves were 50-50.

Canada
02-13-22, 21:42
You were pretty darn silent when there was a bet offer on Democrats maintaining their thin control of the Senate.

Canada couldn't risk betting even a dollar.Never bet a socialist. They lose and never pay. Pretty much all socialists are losers.

MarquisdeSade1
02-14-22, 00:59
Inglewood, CAPresident Joe Biden is planning to wipe out the National Debt with a genius double or nothing bet on the Cincinnati Bengals.

Biden held a meeting with the Treasury Department to go over the plan.

"My bookie, ole Jiffy Dan, was a little hesitant to accept a $30 Trillion bet but I says to him, 'Look, Jiffy Baby, if you hook me up I'll pardon you for all your illegal gambling," said Biden.

He then explained how Jiffy Dan was a smart Black man from South Central who was surprisingly articulate before Dr. Jill Biden reminded him to act less racist.

"Look, here's the honest truth, Jack," said Biden, refocused. "The Bengals are in it to win it. They do that and the slate is clean. No more debt!

Sources in the Treasury Department reveal everyone in the meeting disagreed with the president's plan except for the one guy they're pretty sure is a Chinese plant.

"President Xidung, I think this is a great idea," said Xau Fong.

The Bengals are the current underdogs going into this year's Super Bowl, but economic experts say this was the only way Jiffy Dan would accept such a large bet.

"If we lose, at least only half the debt goes to China. The rest will go to this Jiffy guy," said economic strategist Brent Esther. "Maybe that wouldn't be so bad."https://www.newsmax.com/politics/donald-trump-kamala-harris-joe-biden-poll/2022/02/13/id/1056649/

ScatManDoo
02-14-22, 01:51
Please advise me when the great economic recovery happens in the Biden presidency. All we have seen so far is people returning to their prepandemic jobs..Well, at the senior center in California.

The daily number of people coming in weekdays at 11:30 AM.

Contributing $5.50 and sitting down to eat their "Age Well" lunches.

Has held steady since the Senior Center (closed for 20 months) reopened to guests in November 2021.

Of course daily senior's attendance is down close to 40% from Pre-Pandemic levels.

Trump killed some seniors.

And only killed the interest rates on the savings of the luckier ones.

ScatManDoo
02-14-22, 01:56
Never bet a socialist. They lose and never pay. Pretty much all socialists are losers.You know that hypocrite and chickenshit rhyme well in most poems?

Xpartan
02-14-22, 03:26
Republicans, because they think that everything Tucker "Only an idiot would believe anything I say" Carlson says is true probably believe this post is true as well.

But it isn't, even though the Republican douche who posted it didn't even bother to provide a source. The article appeared in the well-knows (at least to Democrats) satire site called "The Babylon Bee". https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-goes-double-or-nothing-on-national-debt-by-placing-30-trillion-on-the-bengals.Yeah, crackpots don't really dig sarcasm. They tend to take everything literally.

But also look at the source.


The Babylon Bee is a conservative Christian news satire website that publishes satirical articles on topics including religion, politics, current events, and public figures. It has been referred to in the media as a Christian, evangelical, or conservative version of The Onion.Right, just like Christian Cupid is an evangelical or conservative version of the International Sex Guide.

ScatManDoo
02-14-22, 06:55
If you invested in the Keystone pipeline, voting for Trump was stupid.

If you do not want to be vaxxed, voting for Trump was stupid.Actually, if you don't want to get vaxxed, you're simply stupid.

If you don't want to get vaxxed because of what Ron Desantis is saying and doing.

Then you have been suckered, because you are stupid.

Elvis: Do you believe the January 6th convicted felons were treated unfairly and deserving blanket pardons?

Trump Yes for blanket pardons and using the "Legitimate Political Discussion" fairy tale.

Or No to letting cop beaters walk.

For or against cop beating?

This seems to be a difficult choice for republican.

And highly revealing of what pubs genuinely are.

MarquisdeSade1
02-14-22, 07:28
Never bet a socialist. They lose and never pay. Pretty much all socialists are losers.https://www.newsmax.com/geneberardelli/january-6-ukraine/2022/02/11/id/1056442/

EihTooms
02-14-22, 10:34
Durham Reports that Clinton Campaign Paid to 'Infiltrate' Trump Tower, White House Servers. The allegation is:

"Lawyers for the Clinton campaign paid a technology company to "infiltrate" servers belonging to Trump Tower, and later the White House, in order to establish an "inference" and "narrative" to bring to government agencies linking Donald Trump to Russia, a filing from Special Counsel John Durham says."

"In connection with these efforts, Tech Executive-1 exploited his access to non-public and / or proprietary Internet data," the filing states. "Tech Executive-1 also enlisted the assistance of researchers at a USA -based university who were receiving and analyzing large amounts of Internet data in connection with a pending federal government cybersecurity research contract."

"Tech Executive-1 tasked these researchers to mine Internet data to establish 'an inference' and 'narrative' tying then-candidate Trump to Russia," Durham states. "In doing so, Tech Executive-1 indicated that he was seeking to please certain 'VIPs,' referring to individuals at Law Firm-1 and the Clinton campaign."

"Former chief investigator of the Trump-Russia probe for the House Intelligence Committee under then-Rep. Devin Nunes, are-Calif. , Kash Patel, said the filing "definitively shows that the Hillary Clinton campaign directly funded and ordered its lawyers at Perkins Coie to orchestrate a criminal enterprise to fabricate a connection between President Trump and Russia."

If these allegations hold up and are true, it will bigger than Watergate."But her emails"!