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PVMonger
02-14-22, 15:36
The "maybe not now" line had to do with pipeline capacity. You are doing as you always do and changing the subject to one you think you can win.

I am not sure you know the difference between profit margins and net profit or maybe you do and are trying your usual tried and true method of bullshitting. Drilling may diminish profit margins while at the same time causing net profits to grow.

Of course, I do not know what this has anything to do with what I posted which is pretty typical of your responses to my posts.I really didn't think that by mentioning "profit margin" I'd have to explain Business 101 to every idiotic fascist on this board.

But you are simply another fascist moron who doesn't know that profit margin is really the only thing that matters. That's because profit margin measures much a company keeps in earnings from every dollar of sales it generates. Unlike profit, which gets measured in dollars and cents, profit margin gets measured as a percentage. Profit margin is also a measure of how well a company controls operating costs.

So, if you knew these things, you'd know that net profit can grow while profit margins shrink and if the trend continues the company will be soon headed down the crapper. That's why shale oil companies aren't in any hurry to produce more shale oil and drilling companies are in no hurry to "drill, baby, drill".

So, it is apparent that you are the one that is bullshitting and that the shale oil exec I quoted is vastly smarter that you'll ever be.

Canada
02-14-22, 18:36
I really didn't think that by mentioning "profit margin" I'd have to explain Business 101 to every idiotic fascist on this board.

But you are simply another fascist moron who doesn't know that profit margin is really the only thing that matters. That's because profit margin measures much a company keeps in earnings from every dollar of sales it generates. Unlike profit, which gets measured in dollars and cents, profit margin gets measured as a percentage. Profit margin is also a measure of how well a company controls operating costs.

So, if you knew these things, you'd know that net profit can grow while profit margins shrink and if the trend continues the company will be soon headed down the crapper. That's why shale oil companies aren't in any hurry to produce more shale oil and drilling companies are in no hurry to "drill, baby, drill".

So, it is apparent that you are the one that is bullshitting and that the shale oil exec I quoted is vastly smarter that you'll ever be.Your post is pure hogwash. Obviously you have never had a business and worked for someone all your life. People like you should not be posting about business.

And shale companies are in a hurry to drill right now since Biden got oil to nearly $100 a barrel. Oil companies are drilling as much as they can on private land since Biden cancelled permits on most of the federal land. Analysts are predicting 48% returns on oil companies for 2022 while the rest of the market struggles under Biden inflation and Feds increasing rates. Great time to be in the oil business.

Canada
02-14-22, 18:38
You know that hypocrite and chickenshit rhyme well in most poems?Yes you are correct. Chicken shit and socialists are one and the same.

Canada
02-14-22, 18:40
Well, at the senior center in California.

The daily number of people coming in weekdays at 11:30 AM.

Contributing $5.50 and sitting down to eat their "Age Well" lunches.

Has held steady since the Senior Center (closed for 20 months) reopened to guests in November 2021.

Of course daily senior's attendance is down close to 40% from Pre-Pandemic levels.

Trump killed some seniors.

And only killed the interest rates on the savings of the luckier ones.Biden is still killing seniors not only with the two Biden viruses but with inflation. Seniors and the poor are suffering the most since Biden presidency started.

PVMonger
02-14-22, 19:42
Given how badly Brandon has managed the economy, this would actually be a good plan. I put it at close to 100% right now that the USA economy is going to be hit hard due to the actions of the Fed and Brandon. Hell, the yield curve has partially inverted.

A 50-50 chance is much better. I wish the chances the economy improves were 50-50.So what you are saying is that you are against anything that Biden does to control inflation. Brilliant, just brilliant. It is a win-win for the fascists. Complain about inflation and then, when Biden does something to lower inflation, complain at it has impacted the economy.

You are just another idiotic fascist who knows only one thing: "own the libs". The more you and the rest of the fascists can do to hurt the US, the better you like it. Why do you hate Americans so much.

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/2269/economics/ways-to-reduce-inflation/ and https://www.vedantu.com/commerce/control-of-inflation.

PVMonger
02-14-22, 20:42
"But her emails"!The timing of this Durham thing is suspicious as it comes on the heels of the fact that the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy routinely ripped up documents while he was in the WH and didn't turn them over to archivists.

Everybody knows that he was a paranoid MF and the he didn't think rules, or anything else, applied to him. Evidently, too, he was too stupid to learn how to use a shredder. Yep, he was a real stable jenius.

And yet 71+ million geniuses voted for him.

PVMonger
02-14-22, 22:58
To declare the Bengals winners of the Superbowl. Also, Peter Navarro says that they weren't expecting Pence to overturn the Super Bowl, they just want to send the game back to refs to make sure.

EihTooms
02-15-22, 02:41
Add this to Trump's woes along with polls showing he would get slaughtered in another landslide defeat against Biden in 2024, the mountain of pending civil suits and criminal charges against him and his kids and that $400 billion in loans from thug sources coming due very soon.

He needs to sell tons of MAGA hats to the same cult rally goers over and over again to weasel out of this mess he made of his life and "career".

Tax firm fires Trump Organization as client, says financial statements unreliable

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/14/trump-tax-firm-says-documents-not-reliable.html?__source=androidappshare

The only silver lining for the dark Trump Crime Family cloud is Biden's roaring economy might help to keep Trump's longtime failing hotels and resorts afloat.

Trump always acknowledged and said the USA economy does better under Dems than under Repubs and that has never been proven more true than with Repub Trump vs Dem Biden.

So we can only assume Trump's uncanny ability to yammer his way into losing every negotiation and debate and turn everything he touches and applies himself to into shit has been applied to his stealth attack on the Repub Party's chances of taking control of Congress next year by him yammering his poll ratings ever lower and endorsing Repub candidates whose campaign support, funding and donations then begin to dry up.

Of course, his and the country's recovery prospects will dim decidedly if the Repub state level schemes to appoint their QAnon loons to "count the votes" and declare USA economy-destroying Repubs the "winners" no matter how many more legal votes went to the Dems come to fruition. That would definitely screw up Trump's apparent stealth effort to prevent a Red Wave in the Midterms and potentially save his ass financially for a while.

ScatManDoo
02-15-22, 03:25
Will Giuliani give up his former boss that is stiffing him?

Fuck, you could be all paid up with your attorney.

And still get screwed by him.

Rudy is in the toughest place imaginable for someone with an ugly 77 year-old ass.

He's being stiffed for most of the work he did in 2021.

He's been stripped of his bar license.

Dominion looks to be on the winning side of a 1.5 billion lawsuit.

He's the leader and creator of hundreds of false electors in seven states.

Something or someone's got to give.

And Rudy Giulian's looking like someone who can be turned.

In any direction for the best deal.

Everyone! Hold your noses! The stench is about to be released. This will not be pleasant.

For some.

ScatManDoo
02-15-22, 03:31
Biden is still killing seniors not only with the two Biden viruses but with inflation. Seniors and the poor are suffering the most since Biden presidency started.I will write about what I see.

You are free to blabber on about what you dream that might counter it.

Xpartan
02-15-22, 06:24
Will Giuliani give up his former boss that is stiffing him?

Fuck, you could be all paid up with your attorney.

And still get screwed by him.

Rudy is in the toughest place imaginable for someone with an ugly 77 year-old ass.

He's being stiffed for most of the work he did in 2021.

He's been stripped of his bar license.

Dominion looks to be on the winning side of a 1.5 billion lawsuit.

He's the leader and creator of hundreds of false electors in seven states.

Something or someone's got to give.

And Rudy Giulian's looking like someone who can be turned.

In any direction for the best deal.

Everyone! Hold your noses! The stench is about to be released. This will not be pleasant.

For some.Yeah, but I wouldn't be reading too much into this at this point. Maybe it's Rudy's way of blackmailing his stingy ex-patron into paying his legal fees. I mean, crazy or not, Rudy used to be a prosecutor, he probably know a thing or two about the danger of incriminating himself.

Axel Heyst
02-15-22, 14:07
Add this to Trump's woes along with polls showing he would get slaughtered in another landslide defeat against Biden in 2024, Reliable pols show Trump with a 6 point lead over Biden and a double digit lead over the Kasmella. Dems read reliable pols too. This is why Clinton is indicating she would run again.

Face it dude, Biden has dug himself into a ditch. I know you don't want to believe it, but his 1st year was a disaster what with the economy, inflation, Afghanistan, incredible lawlessness and violence in American cities, and the open border. BTW in case you are unaware, after the Republicans take back the House, Biden will be impeached for committing high crimes and misdemeanors specifically he broke immigration law and his oath of office by allowing millions of illegal aliens into the country and then clandestinely flying and busing them at taxpayers expense to all parts of the country.

But it's all good. There is nothing to worry about. According to you Biden is doing a great job. He is a brilliant President just like Jimmy Carter. 555 / KKK / LOL.

PVMonger
02-15-22, 15:29
Your post is pure hogwash. Obviously you have never had a business and worked for someone all your life. People like you should not be posting about business.

And shale companies are in a hurry to drill right now since Biden got oil to nearly $100 a barrel. Oil companies are drilling as much as they can on private land since Biden cancelled permits on most of the federal land. Analysts are predicting 48% returns on oil companies for 2022 while the rest of the market struggles under Biden inflation and Feds increasing rates. Great time to be in the oil business.Anybody who has ever been in business knows that profit margin is the most important measure of success.

You remind me of an idiot VP at one company I worked for. He thought the same way as you, that increasing profit was important and that maintaining profit margin was not. His product line eventually had a negative profit margin! The product sold for $100, so for every $100 product his group sold, they put a $100 bill in the box. When he told the company President that he could "make it up in volume", he got fired.

PVMonger
02-15-22, 15:40
Yeah, but I wouldn't be reading too much into this at this point. Maybe it's Rudy's way of blackmailing his stingy ex-patron into paying his legal fees. I mean, crazy or not, Rudy used to be a prosecutor, he probably know a thing or two about the danger of incriminating himself.Committee: "Is your name Rudolph William Louis Giuliani?

Rudy: "I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may incriminate me."

Committee: "Were you a member of Donald Trump's legal team?

Rudy: "I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may incriminate me."

Committee: "Do you know the 45th president of the United States?

Rudy: "I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may incriminate me."

PVMonger
02-15-22, 17:31
Reliable pols show Trump with a 6 point lead over Biden and a double digit lead over the Kasmella. Dems read reliable pols too. This is why Clinton is indicating she would run again.

Face it dude, Biden has dug himself into a ditch. I know you don't want to believe it, but his 1st year was a disaster what with the economy, inflation, Afghanistan, incredible lawlessness and violence in American cities, and the open border. BTW in case you are unaware, after the Republicans take back the House, Biden will be impeached for committing high crimes and misdemeanors specifically he broke immigration law and his oath of office by allowing millions of illegal aliens into the country and then clandestinely flying and busing them at taxpayers expense to all parts of the country.

But it's all good. There is nothing to worry about. According to you Biden is doing a great job. He is a brilliant President just like Jimmy Carter. 555 / KKK / LOL.That means that the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy would have to win while in jail.

Elvis 2008
02-15-22, 18:26
Your post is pure hogwash. Obviously you have never had a business and worked for someone all your life. People like you should not be posting about business.I agree. His post was so stupid I did not even respond to it.


And shale companies are in a hurry to drill right now since Biden got oil to nearly $100 a barrel. Oil companies are drilling as much as they can on private land since Biden cancelled permits on most of the federal land. Analysts are predicting 48% returns on oil companies for 2022 while the rest of the market struggles under Biden inflation and Feds increasing rates. Great time to be in the oil business.Yeah, and this is the part that cracks me up. The companies Biden hates the most are going to be doing the best.

ScatManDoo
02-15-22, 18:32
That means that the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy would have to win while in jail.I think TrumpShit's current plan is to hide in some French family's attic with Melania and Melania's French speaking parents.

EihTooms
02-15-22, 18:39
Reliable pols show Trump with a 6 point lead over Biden and a double digit lead over the Kasmella. Dems read reliable pols too. This is why Clinton is indicating she would run again.

Face it dude, Biden has dug himself into a ditch. I know you don't want to believe it, but his 1st year was a disaster what with the economy, inflation, Afghanistan, incredible lawlessness and violence in American cities, and the open border. BTW in case you are unaware, after the Republicans take back the House, Biden will be impeached for committing high crimes and misdemeanors specifically he broke immigration law and his oath of office by allowing millions of illegal aliens into the country and then clandestinely flying and busing them at taxpayers expense to all parts of the country.

But it's all good. There is nothing to worry about. According to you Biden is doing a great job. He is a brilliant President just like Jimmy Carter. 555 / KKK / LOL.I already posted my link to a reliable report with a hyperlink to a reliable poll from just last month showing Trump getting slaughtered by Biden in 2024. I'll post it again here:

Trumps Falling Star
Biden's Loss Isn't Trump's Gain.
February 11, 2022

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2022-02-11/bidens-loss-isnt-trumps-gain?context=amp


A January Marquette poll, in fact, found that Biden would best Trump, 53% to 43%, in a hypothetical 2024 rematch.OK, now it's your turn.

Axel Heyst
02-15-22, 18:53
That means that the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy would have to win while in jail.You remind me of that old Michael McDonald / Kenny Loggins song: "What a Fool Believes."

But what a fool believes he sees.

No wise man has the power to reason away.

What seems to be.

Is always better than nothing.

There's nothing at all.

But what a fool believes he sees.

Reality: Queen Nancy will put on another Soviet style political show trial in the House of Representatives. The verdict is already in so nobody really gives a shit. "But what a fool believes he sees. " 555 / KKK / LOL.

ScatManDoo
02-15-22, 20:04
Yeah, but I wouldn't be reading too much into this at this point. Maybe it's Rudy's way of blackmailing his stingy ex-patron into paying his legal fees. I mean, crazy or not, Rudy used to be a prosecutor, he probably know a thing or two about the danger of incriminating himself.I think Rudy Giuliani can discern between a former president promising full pardons (when he didn't give Giuliani one when he could have) and what seems to be developing as a move involving Congressional Immunity from the current Congress in power R at the moment.

It seems to me there is stupid path or a smarter path both being laid out for Rudy to carry his drunken butt forward over:

A: Stay loyal to the rich dude still raking in tons of cash from the suckers (But unwilling to share any of it with you).

A: Get ready to defend yourself over your scheme to put Fake Electors in seven states that Biden legitimately won (five of those states with forged documents).

A: Get ready to defend yourself over the attempted seizing of voting machines-These were calls Rudy personally made.

A: Get ready to defend yourself in numerous libel suits being brought against you, or.

Be: Spend these past two days, and the next two days, have your best full-time attorney negotiate with the January 6th committee how you can testify how directly involved Donald TrumpShitter was in deciding & directing steps involving the fake electors, voting machine seizures, calls for violence.

While they work on the critical Congressional Immunity Offer.

Prosecutors know how to bring down mob bosses. And they also know what is needed to be certain to bring down mob bosses.

We will see what gets delivered.

I think Rudy Giuliani might have originally been scheduled to speak in front of the Congressional Select January 6th Committee today.

But by mutual agreement, to work out some things, Rudy's appearance has been rescheduled to a future date to be determined.

Mutual determination.

Canada
02-15-22, 20:34
That means that the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy would have to win while in jail.Trump was right and he will not go to jail. That is just socialists dreaming. The only one that might be going to jail is Hillary and her legal team. Trump was right. Hillary and DNC were illegally spying on him. Even after elected president. Obviously treason by the DNC and it will be interesting to see if Obama is implicated. This should be a fun couple of months.

Canada
02-15-22, 20:38
Committee: "Is your name Rudolph William Louis Giuliani?

Rudy: "I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may incriminate me."

Committee: "Were you a member of Donald Trump's legal team?

Rudy: "I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may incriminate me."

Committee: "Do you know the 45th president of the United States?

Rudy: "I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that it may incriminate me."History will show that Hillary and DNC committed more crimes in 2 years than Rudy and Trump did in their lifetime.

Canada
02-15-22, 20:42
The timing of this Durham thing is suspicious as it comes on the heels of the fact that the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy routinely ripped up documents while he was in the WH and didn't turn them over to archivists.

Everybody knows that he was a paranoid MF and the he didn't think rules, or anything else, applied to him. Evidently, too, he was too stupid to learn how to use a shredder. Yep, he was a real stable jenius.

And yet 71+ million geniuses voted for him.Timing is not suspicious as this investigation has been going on for over 2 years. It is taking longer since Hillary and DNC destroyed over 30,000 emails. Fake impeachment and fake Russian collusion will come back to haunt Hillary and DNC and this will be proven in a court of law.

Cali Guy
02-15-22, 20:49
That means that the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy would have to win while in jail.2 fake impeachments and a Hilliary fabricated Russian collusion will not send Trump to jail. The DNC with their illegal dealings will be more likely in jail than Trump.

EihTooms
02-15-22, 20:59
Reliable pols show Trump with a 6 point lead over Biden and a double digit lead over the Kasmella. Dems read reliable pols too. This is why Clinton is indicating she would run again.

Face it dude, Biden has dug himself into a ditch. I know you don't want to believe it, but his 1st year was a disaster what with the economy, inflation, Afghanistan, incredible lawlessness and violence in American cities, and the open border. BTW in case you are unaware, after the Republicans take back the House, Biden will be impeached for committing high crimes and misdemeanors specifically he broke immigration law and his oath of office by allowing millions of illegal aliens into the country and then clandestinely flying and busing them at taxpayers expense to all parts of the country.

But it's all good. There is nothing to worry about. According to you Biden is doing a great job. He is a brilliant President just like Jimmy Carter. 555 / KKK / LOL.In order to add credence to some January 2022 polls I alluded to showing Biden defeating Trump again in 2024, I have included here the stated methodology they used:

Marquette Poll

https://law.marquette.edu/poll/2022/01/27/supreme-court-poll-wave-6-national-issues-press-release/


The survey was conducted Jan. 10-21, 2022, interviewing 1000 adults nationwide, with a margin of error of +/-4 percentage points. Politico-Morning Consult Poll

https://nypost.com/2022/01/26/joe-biden-would-beat-donald-trump-in-2024-poll-shows/


The poll surveyed 2,005 registered voters between Jan. 22 and 23 and has a margin of error plus or minus of two percentage points.Now, I did find a reference to one poll from Harvard-Harris getting a lot of Twitter buzz showing Trump defeating Biden by that 6 points you cited. One. Is that the one you were excited about?

Here is what I've found regarding the methodology for that particular poll:

Harvard-Harris Poll

https://unherd.com/thepost/poll-trump-to-beat-biden-by-6-points-in-2024/


Harris Poll/January 20, 2022/n=1815/Online See that word "Online" that I highlighted? That means it was one of those ridiculous Opt-In polls that pop up on websites that are so disregarded and dismissed as utterly unreliable by anyone seriously reviewing polls they are not even mentioned or included in the usual Poll of Polls / Consensus of Polls cited by pro-Repub cites like RealClearPolitics.

They are the online "Nigerian Prince Scam" of polling methodology.

But you said "Reliable pols", plural, show that 6 point lead for Trump over Biden. So maybe you're talking about some other polls that show that happening and not just that one ridiculous Online / Opt-in poll.

I will be waiting to review the "polls" you're talking about. And, bear in mind, my point was Trump's yammering of late has not done him any favors in the polls. So they would need to be "of late", as in at least the past month, during the time period when Trump has really been out there on the Midterm 2022, Presidential 2024 or whatever Election campaign trail he's been on, opening his piehole and spreading his stable genius wisdom to the masses again.

ScatManDoo
02-15-22, 21:31
2 fake impeachments and a Hilliary fabricated Russian collusion will not send Trump to jail. The DNC with their illegal dealings will be more likely in jail than Trump.What clear thinking Cali Guy demonstrates.

Has the DNC been indicted yet? HaHaHaHaHa.

ScatManDoo
02-15-22, 21:39
History will show that Hillary and DNC committed more crimes in 2 years than Rudy and Trump did in their lifetime.HaHaHaHaHa.

Rudy has been voluntarily admitting to a different felony each and every week.

So he has a head start.

HaHaHaHaHa.

Golfinho
02-15-22, 21:50
2 fake impeachments and a Hilliary fabricated Russian collusion will not send Trump to jail. The DNC with their illegal dealings will be more likely in jail than Trump.The only thing Trump did wrong was crash the party. They can't let another candidate get away with that. Just like they can't let The People choose who they want to represent their interests. 21st century American Democracy is for oligarchs, big money, and corporations only.

MarquisdeSade1
02-16-22, 00:02
The only thing Trump did wrong was crash the party. They can't let another candidate get away with that. Just like they can't let The People choose who they want to represent their interests. 21st century American Democracy is for oligarchs, big money, and corporations only.That's exactly what they want you to believe and accept!

Don't be perpetuating their lies for them.

Xpartan
02-16-22, 01:14
Reliable pols show Trump with a 6 point lead over Biden and a double digit lead over the Kasmella. Dems read reliable pols too. This is why Clinton is indicating she would run again.What "reliable" polls? Care to share?

Seriously, man, if you have nothing, like zilch, zip, zero facts to back up your own statements, why even bother saying anything at all?

Would you post such generic, unsubstantiated BS in Brazil forum?

If not, ask yourself why.

Axel Heyst
02-16-22, 03:15
What "reliable" polls? Care to share?Sure, glad to.

https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/joe-biden-administration-approval-ratings-and-hypothetical-voting-intention-6-february-2022/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html#!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/prez_track_feb15

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/january_2022/50_support_biden_s_impeachment

https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/news/nat-issues-biden-approval-0120/

EihTooms
02-16-22, 07:16
Sure, glad to.

https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/joe-biden-administration-approval-ratings-and-hypothetical-voting-intention-6-february-2022/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html#!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/prez_track_feb15

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/january_2022/50_support_biden_s_impeachment

https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/news/nat-issues-biden-approval-0120/For the head to head hypothetical poll question, only the ridiculous Harris Opt-in Online poll is from this year, January, when Trump began yammering on the campaign trail and Rasmussen's Daily Tracking Poll, which is notorious for oversampling Repubs and fairly consistently falls within the "outlyer" category among polling trends.

I don't know what the Trafalgar Poll was about, another Repub oversampler, because that link didn't open for me.

Xpartan
02-16-22, 08:05
Sure, glad to.

https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/joe-biden-administration-approval-ratings-and-hypothetical-voting-intention-6-february-2022/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html#!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/prez_track_feb15

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/january_2022/50_support_biden_s_impeachment

https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/news/nat-issues-biden-approval-0120/Dude, this is an equivalent of a "document dump," LOL. None of these links confirm that "Reliable pols show Trump with a 6 point lead over Biden".

Seriously, even if we forget how biased Rasmussen is, I haven't found any polls comparing Biden and Trump. I found the one from Redfield & Wilton (never heard of them) that marks them "neck to neck". So where is your 6 point lead? Other polls are just showing poor Biden's job performance, which is unfortunate, but has nothing to do with your claim.

But tell you what: if I miss something in your link barrage, my apologies. Please point me to a SPECIFIC document that backs it up. Should be easy.

Axel Heyst
02-16-22, 15:11
Dude, this is an equivalent of a "document dump," LOL. None of these links confirm that "Reliable pols show Trump with a 6 point lead over Biden".

Seriously, even if we forget how biased Rasmussen is,Seriously? I get that you don't like Rasmussen, the Left hates Rasmussen because Rasmussen does not give them what they want, but you outside of politics seem to be a reasonable fellow punter, more or less, KKK, so maybe should reconsider your bias against the company. I trust Rasmussen because it has had the best track record for the last 2 elections. Trafalgar is also a very reliable, unbiased poll. These 2 pols were the only ones that got 2016 right the day before the election and they were the most accurate pols in 2020 as well.

Anyway, Rasmussen for at least the last 2 months has consistently put Biden between 40% & 43% likely voter favorability & 59% to 56% likely voter unfavorable and I think this accurately reflects how likely voters feel at the present time. But if you don't like or trust either one of these polls then Real Clear Politics is the one for you, but Biden doesn't do very to well with the averages either.

Down to cases: I remember seeing about 10 days ago a reliable pol with Trump up on average 6 pts or so over Biden & 10 pts over Kasmella. I am not making this up. If you want to a call me a liar go ahead, but here is the real clear politics link to that poll.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html#!

Meanwhile, I have not checked or verified the sampling proportions of the OP's poll, so I am not sure about it's accuracy or bias. I am not knocking it, just saying I haven't checked it out yet to make sure it is reliable. I am sure you are aware that pollsters can pretty much come up with any result they want based on their sampling technique and proportions. In addition, polls vary day to day so if the poll linked by the OP and other polls begin to show Biden ahead of Trump in a one on one, I will make note of it because I am into accuracy and want to know the truth as much as that is possible in these insane political times.

PVMonger
02-16-22, 16:38
History will show that Hillary and DNC committed more crimes in 2 years than Rudy and Trump did in their lifetime.History will not show anything close to that.

What history will show is that the Mango Mussolini incited an insurrection at the Capitol on January 6th and that the RNC called the insurrection "legitimate political discourse".

What history will show is the the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy ripped up documents that should have been sent whole to the Archives. This is a criminal offence according to US law.

What history will show is the he also stole boxes of documents, some classified, and took them with him when he got kicked to the curb by real Americans. This is a criminal offence according to US law.

What history will show is that he lied about the documents at Mar-a-Lago. An advisor will step forward and testify, under oath, that the Orange Buffoon packed some of the boxes himself and wouldn't let anybody see what was in them.

Even though history will show all of this, the Teflon Don won't spend a day in jail.

What history will show is that the Orange Doofus used the cell phones of aides, his Secret Service protection detail, etc. To make political phone calls. Exactly as he has accused Hillary Clinton of doing.

What history will show is that he made over 30,000 false, misleading or otherwise BS statements during the time he was running for office and during the time he occupied the White House.

What history will show is that the Orange Fruitcake played golf for more days while "president" that any other President in US history, after he lied to the American people and said he'd be too busy working to play golf.

History will also show that all of this is just the "tip of the iceberg".

History will also show that all of the above will make no difference to supporters of the OTTIFPFG. They'll just keep drinking orange koolaid and think that the OTTIFPFG was the greatest "president" ever.

Xpartan
02-16-22, 21:06
Seriously? I get that you don't like Rasmussen, the Left hates Rasmussen because Rasmussen does not give them what they want, but you outside of politics seem to be a reasonable fellow punter, more or less, KKK, so maybe should reconsider your bias against the company. I trust Rasmussen because it has had the best track record for the last 2 elections. Trafalgar is also a very reliable, unbiased poll. These 2 pols were the only ones that got 2016 right the day before the election and they were the most accurate pols in 2020 as well.

Anyway, Rasmussen for at least the last 2 months has consistently put Biden between 40% & 43% likely voter favorability & 59% to 56% likely voter unfavorable and I think this accurately reflects how likely voters feel at the present time. But if you don't like or trust either one of these polls then Real Clear Politics is the one for you, but Biden doesn't do very to well with the averages either.

Down to cases: I remember seeing about 10 days ago a reliable pol with Trump up on average 6 pts or so over Biden & 10 pts over Kasmella. I am not making this up. If you want to a call me a liar go ahead, but here is the real clear politics link to that poll.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general-election-trump-vs-biden-7383.html#!

Meanwhile, I have not checked or verified the sampling proportions of the OP's poll, so I am not sure about it's accuracy or bias. I am not knocking it, just saying I haven't checked it out yet to make sure it is reliable. I am sure you are aware that pollsters can pretty much come up with any result they want based on their sampling technique and proportions. In addition, polls vary day to day so if the poll linked by the OP and other polls begin to show Biden ahead of Trump in a one on one, I will make note of it because I am into accuracy and want to know the truth as much as that is possible in these insane political times.I must apologize. This link was the second one in your original post, but I somehow missed the Biden vs. Trump poll. So, my bad. Whether or not I agree with that evaluation (I don't), you've sufficiently backed up your claim, LOL.

Now, like it or don't like it, but Rasmussen is incredibly biased and was actually caught with their pants down by 538 if memory serves me. I mean, come on they gave Trump 13 points, and you don't think that's a tiny little bit too much?

Anyway, the reason why I disagree with your findings is because they're old. There are newer polls and they are painting a very different picture.

https://nypost.com/2022/01/26/joe-biden-would-beat-donald-trump-in-2024-poll-shows

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/591590-biden-leading-trump-desantis-by-similar-margins-in-new-poll

And a simple timed Google search will show there are more recent polls that have come to the same conclusion.

While no one is sugarcoating Biden's current unpopularity, it seems the Blood Orange is getting less and less relevant with every passing day.

Elvis 2008
02-16-22, 21:35
Sure, glad to.Axel, I found this poll in 2 seconds: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-widens-lead-over-biden-6-points-hypothetical-2024-matchup-poll-1662708.

Whenever a Democratic asks for sources, they do so to invalidate what you are saying.

If Tucker Carlson says 2 and 2 equal 4, these douches will be like, "Tucker Carlson would say that".

The best thing is to quote articles make them seem like they are your POV and then when they attack it, you can reveal that it is a neutral or left wing source.

For example, here is a great factual report on how Biden has fucked up the oil and gas and energy sector.

Here is a quote.

"The average USA Household in 2021 spent an extra $600 in higher gasoline costs and $70 in higher electricity costs. Further, households that use natural gas spent an extra $300, on average, and those using home heating oil paid $1,000 more. Cumulatively, the average American household paid about $1,000 in higher energy costs in 2021, compared to 2020.

Now if you list the article which is here they will say Zero hedge? Epoch Times? https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/biden-energy-policies-added-1000-typical-households-costs-2021-report.

This is THE Democratic method. Facts on ZH, epoch times, and Fox News do not count even if they are correct.

So it is best if you go to the source that is being quoted, in this case Heartland, and the report is here: https://www.heartland.org/publications-resources/publications/biden-energy-policies-cost-us-households-more-than-1000-in-2021.

It is kind of hard to go after Heartland as it is not as well known.

But the best way to trap them is to quote Democratic liberals but not say who they are and then catch them when they go against one of their own.

I have no problem saying Obama was a good president and Clinton was a great one, but Reagan was the best president in my lifetime, and it is amazing how these Democratic do not accept that. The guy won two fucking landslides, and they are like, "Oh, he sucked. " GW Bush who was once of the worst presidents in my lifetime gets a pass while the Democratic pile on Reagan. They completely lack any sense of being objective, and it is fun to poke that and show how full of shit and hypocritical they are.

I said Obama had a sound energy policy, and Biden's energy policy is a fucking joke. With them, all Democratic energy policies are great, and all Republican ones sucked. It does not matter what the price of gasoline is today. Biden is fucking great.

Democratic are not nice people, and they do not care what the price of gasoline is and how many people suffer. All they care about is if their guy is in charge.

Xpartan
02-16-22, 22:32
Axel, I found this poll in 2 seconds: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-widens-lead-over-biden-6-points-hypothetical-2024-matchup-poll-1662708.

Whenever a Democratic asks for sources, they do so to invalidate what you are saying.I don't know about Democrats, but I just want to verify one's statement, that's all. If I can paste a link, I'm sure anyone can.


If Tucker Carlson says 2 and 2 equal 4, these douches will be like, "Tucker Carlson would say that".By "these douches" do you mean Carlson's own lawyers? Because according to the judge it was them who insisted "that Carlson is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary. ".

Are you mad at Carlson's lawyers, Elvis?

Wait, here is the source for you: https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye.


The best thing is to quote articles make them seem like they are your POV and then when they attack it, you can reveal that it is a neutral or left wing source.

For example, here is a great factual report on how Biden has fucked up the oil and gas and energy sector.

Here is a quote.

"The average USA Household in 2021 spent an extra $600 in higher gasoline costs and $70 in higher electricity costs. Further, households that use natural gas spent an extra $300, on average, and those using home heating oil paid $1,000 more. Cumulatively, the average American household paid about $1,000 in higher energy costs in 2021, compared to 2020.

Now if you list the article which is here they will say Zero hedge? Epoch Times? https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/biden-energy-policies-added-1000-typical-households-costs-2021-report.

This is THE Democratic method. Facts on ZH, epoch times, and Fox News do not count even if they are correct.

So it is best if you go to the source that is being quoted, in this case Heartland, and the report is here: https://www.heartland.org/publications-resources/publications/biden-energy-policies-cost-us-households-more-than-1000-in-2021.

It is kind of hard to go after Heartland as it is not as well known.Now you're just being silly (again). Nothing's easier than going after Heartland. After all, there aren't many "think tanks" that would boldly claim there was no correlation between smoking and health risks. It wouldn't be easy to find a more disreputable "charity" in America. Even the Big Oil stopped giving them money, at least publicly.



The Heartland Institute is an American conservative and libertarian public policy think tank known for its rejection of the scientific consensus on climate change and the negative health impacts of smoking.https://www.desmog.com/heartland-institute

Thanks for the chuckles, Elvis.

Elvis 2008
02-16-22, 23:37
Thanks for the chuckles, Elvis.You gave me the chuckles. Did you address anything factual at all in your retort? All you did was due to typical Democratic move and attacked the sources: Fox News, Epoch news, Zero Hedge, Joe Rogan, and Heartland. It is to the point that you guys want to cancel everyone who disagrees with you facts be damned.

Among the Biden policies the report claims are causing energy costs to increase dramatically are these:

Canceling the Keystone XL pipeline linking Canadian oil producing areas with refineries in the Midwestern and Southern United States.

Restricting drilling in parts of the Arctic Ocean, Bering Sea, and continental federal lands, especially in the Western USA.

Placing a moratorium on new oil and gas leases on federal lands.

Rescinding energy production leases in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

Plans to close nearly half of the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska.

Stringent new regulations on methane emissions from domestic USA Oil and gas production.

Classifying residual water wastes from oil and gas drilling as toxic.

Considering hiking royalties paid to the federal government by fossil-fuel companies producing oil and natural gas on federal lands.

So yeah, bash Heartland on smoking so you do not have to address them on energy. Meanwhile, all the media outlets pushing the Russiagate hoax are somehow legitimate.

So I told Axel to not list sources or use more obscure ones and you did what?

Attacked the source. LOL. That is why we are not listing them for you Democratic anymore. Your little minds cannot handle any facts that bother your preset narratives. Everything is a version of where did you get that from? Fox News?

And you did not only exactly as I predicted, you were even worse than predicted. So no, thank you for the laugh.

PVMonger
02-17-22, 00:04
I don't know about Democrats, but I just want to verify one's statement, that's all. If I can paste a link, I'm sure anyone can.

By "these douches" do you mean Carlson's own lawyers? Because according to the judge it was them who insisted "that Carlson is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary. ".

Are you mad at Carlson's lawyers, Elvis?

Wait, here is the source for you: https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye..It amazes me that the fascists on this board, Elvis, CaliGuy, Canada, Axel at al, post "alternative facts", mislabel them as "facts" and think that the rest of us are simply too stupid to know the difference.

Let's face it, we all have our own opinions and that is all they are. Opinions. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion but there is only one set of facts. Facts are facts. Alternative facts are, well, lies.

As you wisely pointed out, Heartland (which Elvis cites as an authority) went out of their way to deny a link between smoking and lung cancer. How ludicrous is that? But yet Elvis calls them experts because their lies fuel his delusions.

It is the same thing that fascists use all the time. Did the Orange Fruitcake say that he wouldn't have time to golf because he was working? Of course he did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN2enFzOXcw But ask any fascist and they will deny he said it.

Did the Orange Buffoon tell people to inject disinfectant? Of course he did. Calls to several state poison control centers went up after he said that. But ask any fascist and they will deny he said it.

Did the Mango Mussolini say that COVID would vanish, just like a miracle? Of course he did. But ask any fascist and they will deny he said it.

Everything that the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy says when he bloviates against else is a clue that he is doing exactly the same thing. 1. "But her emails! Turns out the OTTIFPFG was doing the same thing. 2. "But she used non-secure phones! Turns out the OTTIFPFG was doing the same thing. 3. "The Clintons stole White House furniture. " Turns out the OTTIFPFG was doing something far worse, like stealing presidential documents.

Psychologists call this type of behavior "projection". It is a standard fascist tactic and a standard tactic of the OTTIFPF.

G.

What Elvis and the other fascists don't understand, and never will, is that Democrats don't have the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy living rent-free in their heads. We would just as soon forget that he existed. But since the fascists are trying so very hard to cover up January 6th, his breaking the law by ripping up documents, his breaking the law by stealing documents, Democrats must keep exposing this criminal for what he is. A criminal.

EihTooms
02-17-22, 03:56
Seriously? I get that you don't like Rasmussen, the Left hates Rasmussen because Rasmussen does not give them what they want, but you outside of politics seem to be a reasonable fellow punter, more or less, KKK, so maybe should reconsider your bias against the company. I trust Rasmussen because it has had the best track record for the last 2 elections. Trafalgar is also a very reliable, unbiased poll. These 2 pols were the only ones that got 2016 right the day before the election and they were the most accurate pols in 2020 as well.

Anyway, Rasmussen for at least the last 2 months has consistently put Biden between 40% & 43% likely voter favorability & 59% to 56% likely voter unfavorable and I think this accurately reflects how likely voters feel at the present time. But if you don't like or trust either one of these polls then Real Clear Politics is the one for you, but Biden doesn't do very to well with the averages either.

Down to cases: I remember seeing about 10 days ago a reliable pol with Trump up on average 6 pts or so over Biden & 10 pts over Kasmella. I am not making this up. If you want to a call me a liar go ahead, but here is the real clear politics link to that poll..Actually, Rasmussen was the only poll in the final final RCP 2020 presidential election lineup that gave Trump a 1 percentage point chance of a tie, his best shot at pulling off a win in the votes:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

Imo, that final poll assessment at crunch time when all eyes would be on which polls got the outcome right is compelling evidence that Rasmussen routinely oversamples Repubs and Repub leaners.

They are at least more likely than most to be less conscientious about weeding out winger fakers who say they are "Dems" just to fuck with the polls they always hated in hopes of producing results that will, you know, "own the libs".

Oh, perhaps not nearly as utterly lax about that as those Opt-in Online polls typically are. But lax.

Anyone who reads this forum ought to be quite familiar with that particular kind of pretending to be "Dem" fake assurance.

Axel Heyst
02-17-22, 03:59
It looks like the Canadian PM has lost his friggin' marbles. Headline: "Canada's House of Commons erupts after Trudeau accuses Jewish MP of supporting swastikas."

https://rumble.com/vv4ood-trudeau-accuses-jewish-mp-of-standing-with-those-who-wave-swastikas.html

Just drop the mandates you power hungry woke-fuck. People are mad as hell over Gov't Imposed Covid Restrictions and they are not going to take it any more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRuS3dxKK9U&t=14s

EihTooms
02-17-22, 04:26
Axel, I found this poll in 2 seconds: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-widens-lead-over-biden-6-points-hypothetical-2024-matchup-poll-1662708.

Whenever a Democratic asks for sources, they do so to invalidate what you are saying.

If Tucker Carlson says 2 and 2 equal 4, these douches will be like, "Tucker Carlson would say that".

The best thing is to quote articles make them seem like they are your POV and then when they attack it, you can reveal that it is a neutral or left wing source.

For example, here is a great factual report on how Biden has fucked up the oil and gas and energy sector.

Here is a quote.

"The average USA Household in 2021 spent an extra $600 in higher gasoline costs and $70 in higher electricity costs. Further, households that use natural gas spent an extra $300, on average, and those using home heating oil paid $1,000 more. Cumulatively, the average American household paid about $1,000 in higher energy costs in 2021, compared to 2020..Yes, yes, we know about the polls showing Trump ahead of Biden in a hypothetical head to head last year, the year of your linked poll.

And we know about the tie.

And we know about the Opt-in Online Harris poll where anyone with two or more email addresses can sit in his mom's basement and choose Trump over and over again, having nothing to do with a true random sampling, which is why they can't even claim any +/-MoE estimation of accuracy.

And we know about the well known Repub and Repub leaning oversampler Rasmussen poll.

But, as I have stated, the premise of my post that triggered these responses was that Trump's yammering on the campaign trail now, lately, at least since last month, are driving his poll numbers down, including the hypothetical head to head vs Biden question.

Which, by definition, acknowledges that those polls for Trump would have been higher last year. See how that works?

In fact, I think even the Rasmussen poll shows Trump with a shrinking rather than growing advantage over Biden in that poll question. Not sure and I don't have time now to check it.

Maybe that trend will change for Trump in those polls the more he yammers on. But so far, no.

So you are so magnanimous that you are willing to cite something positive about Dem presidents who only grow and expand the economy, creating millions of jobs and produce no Great Recessions and don't understand why the rest of us can't be just as magnanimous about Repub presidents who plunge us into one Great Repub Recession after another and either produce piss poor jobs creation for the massive deficit spending they threw at it or more likely wipe out millions of jobs?

My, my, we have so much to learn from you about the generosity of spirit required to promote and encourage more and more and more of the latter and perhaps never again benefit from the former in our lifetimes.

Elvis 2008
02-17-22, 07:01
It amazes me that the fascists on this board, Elvis, CaliGuy, Canada, Axel at al, post "alternative facts", mislabel them as "facts" and think that the rest of us are simply too stupid to know the difference.Funny how my calling you douches is censored while you are allowed to call others fascists and racists. Your definition of a fascist and racist is anyone who does not vote Democrat all the time.

So Heartland lists a series of facts about Biden and you call me names and belittle what Heartland's list of facts.

And then you call Heartland names. Then you talk about Trump and golf and Trump and bleach and then Covid and then White House furniture and then more stuff on Trump. Man, you DDs cannot quit Trump.

And what facts do you not want to address with energy prices right now? How about this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline

From January 2018 through December 31, 2019, Keystone XL development costs were $1.5 billion. Bye, bye $1.5 billion dollars.

On January 20, 2021, United States President Joe Biden revoked the permit for the pipeline on his first day in office.

And why did he do that?

According to a February 10, 2011 Reuters article, Koch Industries then owned by Charles G. Koch and David H. Koch, commonly referred to as the Koch brotherswere in a position to increase their profits substantially if the Keystone XL Pipeline were approved.

You know what those are called PV Monger? Facts.

You know what is also a fact?

Oil was $52 a barrel when Biden took office, and it $93 now.

So Biden meant to fuck over the Koch brothers, score one for his climate change agenda, and in doing so, he fucked over the whole country.

The Democrat response to oil companies losing $1.5 billion? Eh, it is nothing. Well, they are sure making it back now.

That is what you Democrats call real leadership. For the rest of us, that is selfish and shitty policy. And your only response to this is to call people names and say "Well, what about Trump and bleach?" You are so pathetic.

EihTooms
02-17-22, 09:17
I have no problem saying Obama was a good president and Clinton was a great one, but Reagan was the best president in my lifetime, and it is amazing how these Democratic do not accept that. The guy won two fucking landslides, and they are like, "Oh, he sucked...I see you repeatedly measure the success or failure of your favorites by how many votes they got, regardless how objectively shitty or inferior to your "worst" presidents their economic or national security results were.

Therefore, as long as we're just identifying "greatness" by who got the most votes regardless of actual results in office, you must be quite impressed by the consistent greatness of the Democratic Party now that has gotten more votes for president than the Republican Party in 7 of the last 8 presidential elections.

I would even argue that the only reason the one Repub numbskull who did get more votes than his Democratic Party opponent in 2004 did so by a hare's breath solely because he had the advantage of the incumbency on his side thanks only to being appointed president by the wingers on the SCOTUS in 2000 and for blundering us into a couple of pointless wars in order to run for re-election as a self-described "Wartime President"!

Had it not been for that one totally disastrous winger Repub SCOTUS appointment to the presidency in 2000, it is obvious the record would be more votes for Dems in 8 out of the last 8 presidential elections, with Dems totally running the table since your "best president of my lifetime" left his and his VP's longest lasting consecutive historic disapproval mark as measured by actual votes on the idea of his Party ever occupying the White House again.

PVMonger
02-17-22, 16:23
You gave me the chuckles. Did you address anything factual at all in your retort? All you did was due to typical Democratic move and attacked the sources: Fox News, Epoch news, Zero Hedge, Joe Rogan, and Heartland. It is to the point that you guys want to cancel everyone who disagrees with you facts be damned.

Among the Biden policies the report claims are causing energy costs to increase dramatically are these:

Canceling the Keystone XL pipeline linking Canadian oil producing areas with refineries in the Midwestern and Southern United States.

Restricting drilling in parts of the Arctic Ocean, Bering Sea, and continental federal lands, especially in the Western USA..So, for all of your bloviation, you fail to mention the reasons for these actions. And in failing to do so, you tell us what you don't care about.

In point of fact, many of the moves above simply reversed policies of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy. They simply reset the meter (as it were) to pre-dump. Other policies went beyond that.

But all of the moves you mentioned above are for the sole reason of protecting the environment. Period. And that's what you and the rest of the "drill, baby, drill" fascist Republican party are against. Who cares if your kids don't have clean water to drink. No big deal because they'll have cheap gasoline. So what if your grandkids can't breath. No big deal 'cause they'll have cheap propane. Who cares about any of it as long as you and the rest of the fascists have cheap petroleum products.

And that's the difference here. Democrats care about the future and how future generations will live.

Elvis 2008
02-17-22, 16:28
It looks like the Canadian PM has lost his friggin' marbles. Headline: "Canada's House of Commons erupts after Trudeau accuses Jewish MP of supporting swastikas."Yeah, everyone in the Western world is urging Canada to hold the line, and it is not going well. Brandon is terrified this spreads to the USA and he and others are urging Trudeau to crack down.

The irony is the CC comedy South Park predicted this in its first episode of the season. Trudeau looks like PC principal here and he has tripped a wire that no one can come back from, a potential bank run.

If Canada does have a bank run, they are done. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bank-run-canadas-top-banks-mysteriously-go-offline.

PVMonger
02-17-22, 18:43
Funny how my calling you douches is censored while you are allowed to call others fascists and racists. Your definition of a fascist and racist is anyone who does not vote Democrat all the time.

So Heartland lists a series of facts about Biden and you call me names and belittle what Heartland's list of facts.

And then you call Heartland names. Then you talk about Trump and golf and Trump and bleach and then Covid and then White House furniture and then more stuff on Trump. Man, you DDs cannot quit Trump.

And what facts do you not want to address with energy prices right now? How about this?..This is exactly what I mean about facts and alternative facts. You and the rest of the Republicans constantly say that your "alternative facts" are really facts and you back them up by posting manure from some web site that has zero credibility. Did you even read anything about Heartland? Any rag who tried to say that there was no link between smoking and lung cancer can't be trusted to be correct on anything else. That isn't to say that no publication can make a mistake. But when a publication constantly report lies like the one I mentioned, they cease to have credibility.

Fact: Smoking causes lung cancer.

Alternative Fact: Smoking does not cause lung cancer.

Fact: Biden cancelled the Keystone XL pipeline because of potential damage to the environment.

Alternative Fact: Biden wanted to screw the Koch brothers.

Fact: People died in car crashes yesterday. People ate Wheaties yesterday.

Alternative Fact: Eating Wheaties causes people to die.

Fact: Trump ripped up documents that should have been given to the archivists.

Alternative Fact: So what if the archives has a bunch of ripped up documents. Nobody can prove that Trump ripped them up.

Fact: Trump lost.

Alternative Fact: Trump won and even though none of his 60+ lawsuits went anywhere, we know that the evidence exists. Chinese thermostats changed votes. Jewish space lasers were involved.

ScatManDoo
02-17-22, 19:53
I worked for regional CPA firms as well as my own book of business.

I know what's typically involved in these severing of relationships when CPAs fire their bad clients.

It usually happens when businesses begin to fail.

Or demand too much.

Both of which are likely to be at play here.

An accountant can accept of bunch of doubtful, shaky assertions from their client, but only within limits.

More than once, I needed to wrangle in a client's wild story to some level of reality.

My guess is that TrumpShit is having trouble paying for his accountants.

When your accountants fire you.

Your financials must be circling the drain.

Or at least regularly clogging it. HaHaHaHaHa.

Xpartan
02-17-22, 20:39
And that's what you and the rest of the "drill, baby, drill" fascist Republican party are against. Who cares if your kids don't have clean water to drink. No big deal because they'll have cheap gasoline. So what if your grandkids can't breath. No big deal 'cause they'll have cheap propane. Who cares about any of it as long as you and the rest of the fascists have cheap petroleum products.If elvises of this world get their way, their kids won't have clean water and will STILL have expensive gasoline. Because it doesn't matter how many holes they drill, energy markets are global and hyper-sensitive to any political and economic shocks. Crackpots just can't get it into their thick, dumb heads that oil prices can't be controlled by the will of presidents and political hacks.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart

Xpartan
02-17-22, 21:01
It looks like the Canadian PM has lost his friggin' marbles. Headline: "Canada's House of Commons erupts after Trudeau accuses Jewish MP of supporting swastikas."

https://rumble.com/vv4ood-trudeau-accuses-jewish-mp-of-standing-with-those-who-wave-swastikas.html

Just drop the mandates you power hungry woke-fuck. People are mad as hell over Gov't Imposed Covid Restrictions and they are not going to take it any more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRuS3dxKK9U&t=14sHe didn't accuse the MP of supporting swastikas. He accuses HER PARTY MEMBERS of standing with people who wave swastikas..

Nice spin, though. Leave it to them right-wingers to exploit good, old-fashioned fake outrage.

Here is what really happened.


Ms. Lantsman, the MP for Thornhill, north of Toronto, told the House that Mr. Trudeau “fans the flames of an unjustified national emergency” and asked, “When did the Prime Minister lose his way?”

He responded by saying, “Conservative Party members can stand with people who wave swastikas. They can stand with people who wave the Confederate flag.

“We will choose to stand with Canadians who deserve to be able to get to their jobs, to be able to get their lives back. These illegal protests need to stop and they will.”https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-conservative-swastikas-1.6354970

I'm Jewish, by the way, so don't even!

Axel Heyst
02-17-22, 22:21
He didn't accuse the MP of supporting swastikas. He accuses [B]HER PARTY MEMBERS of standing with people who wave swastikas.[/URL]

I'm Jewish, by the way, so don't even!I don't care if you are a Houthis from Yemen or a SW on Beach Road in Pattaya; you should be disgusted with this form of political rhetoric like all civilized people should. This is no way for the PM of a proud and free country to talk. Truth is baby face Trudeau had nothing after the woman dressed him down. That is why he took the low road. What swastika waving truckers or supporters of swastika waving truckers is he talking about! I would really like to know. I have seen no swastikas among the protestors, only Canadian flags. The protestors have not burned any buildings. They have not attacked anybody (unlike Biden supporters ie BLM and Antifa). Agree with their specific issue or disagree with it, they are free to peacefully protest. I have been vaxed 3 times, so obviously I think vaccines have some efficacy and are worth the risk, but I also believe the Government does not have the right to mandate vaccines or force it's citizens to be vaxed. The PM disagrees. Debate it and may the best argument win.

But Trudeau is a little man. A female member of Parliament dressed him down pretty good on the floor of Parliament using his own words to show his hypocrisy and he had no response other than to compare her and her supporters to Nazi sympathizers. But no surprises there. This is what the Left does all the time. Disagree with them and they call you a Fascist, a Racist, or a Swastika waving yada yada yada because they have nothing and they desperately want to shut down the debate. You are on the wrong side, mate. Open you eyes!

Elvis 2008
02-17-22, 22:25
If elvises of this world get their way, their kids won't have clean water and will STILL have expensive gasoline. Because it doesn't matter how many holes they drill, energy markets are global and hyper-sensitive to any political and economic shocks.This from a guy on a website where guys fly thousands of miles for pussy. He he. What kind of SUV do you drive douche?

Elvis 2008
02-17-22, 22:55
But all of the moves you mentioned above are for the sole reason of protecting the environment. Period. And that's what you and the rest of the "drill, baby, drill" fascist Republican party are against. Who cares if your kids don't have clean water to drink. No big deal because they'll have cheap gasoline. So what if your grandkids can't breath. No big deal 'cause they'll have cheap propane. Who cares about any of it as long as you and the rest of the fascists have cheap petroleum products.Yeah, it is the same old bullshit with you. Question the source. Change the subject. Now it is clean water. Truth is that the most important thing to do to save children is cheap energy in 3rd world nations.

https://phys.org/news/2018-10-air-pollution-children-year.html#text=Exposure%20 to%20 toxic%20 air%20 both, World%20 Health%20 Organization%20 warned%20 Monday.

Air pollution kills 600,000 children each year: WHO.

And the USA doubled oil production from 2010 on, and air quality actually went up. Say what? https://www.epa.gov/air-trends/air-quality-national-summary.

And water? https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jon-devine/fifty-years-after-1969-how-far-have-we-come.

Water pollution levels have generally improved compared to 50 years ago.

But there was one terrible incident under Trump where regulators did not keep up. That was the Deepwater Horizon incident where the Trump administration pushed oil companies to achieve independence and short changed regulations and the Gulf of Mexico was horribly polluted.

Oh wait, that incident happened under Obama.

He he.

Biden did not shut down Keystone for clean water. That is the bullshit excuse he used to fuck over energy companies who support Republicans.

Elvis 2008
02-17-22, 22:57
I'm Jewish, by the way, so don't even!You think the only one the Nazis hurt were Jews? Screw you for ignoring the suffering of others.

Elvis 2008
02-18-22, 04:59
If elvises of this world get their way, their kids won't have clean water and will STILL have expensive gasoline.Is that before we all die from climate change or after? You have been spinning so many apocalypses I cannot keep track.

And I am pissed at you today. It is 30 and windy near me, and you promised climate change would be fixed. I expected with Brandon as president that every day would be sunny and 80. WTF went wrong?

Xpartan
02-18-22, 05:21
I don't care if you are a Houthis from Yemen or a SW on Beach Road in Pattaya; you should be disgusted with this form of political rhetoric like all civilized people should. This is no way for the PM of a proud and free country to talk. Truth is baby face Trudeau had nothing after the woman dressed him down. That is why he took the low road. What swastika waving truckers or supporters of swastika waving truckers is he talking about! I would really like to know. I'm glad you asked. I'll tell ya in a minute.

But first, let's get back to your original message.

You said:


Headline: "Canada's House of Commons erupts after Trudeau accuses Jewish MP of supporting swastikas."That was a false statement. I've proved to you that it was false with a literal quote of what was really said.

The whole fake right-wing outrage has centered on the fact that the MP in question was Jewish. And my point was that contrary to your statement, Trudeau has never accused her, a person of Jewish descent, of supporting swastikas.

Now, I understand that it wasn't your own quote. You just read it in one of the right-wing lie-spreading publications and decided why not? I like what it says, let me just go ahead and paste it.

Well, that was wrong. At this point you should know that right-wing media are routinely dealing in lies, half-truths and omissions. That's their business model. You need to verify everything by going to the primary source.

Now that we have established that Trudeau did NOT accuse a woman of Jewish descent PERSONALLY of waving swastikas let me address your next concern, namely:

"What swastika waving truckers or supporters of swastika waving truckers is he talking about! I would really like to know. ".

What truckers? Well, these truckers.


The remarks came during protests by a Freedom Convoy whose purpose, according to The Associated Press, was to rail against COVID-19 restrictions, and against Trudeau himself. That protest included a blockade of pickups, cars, and a handful of commercial trucks that ended up choking off traffic at the Ambassador Bridge, the busiest border crossing between Canada and the United States. Other crossings were also impacted as well as downtown streets in Canadas capital of Ottawa.

We found that a small number of swastikas and Confederate battle flags were indeed displayed by a few Freedom Convoy protesters. Most of the swastikas and other symbols appeared to be pictured on signs as a way of mocking and protesting government restrictions. According to photographs, at least one man carried a full Nazi flag. We looked into the incidents of symbols of hate being sighted in Canada and documented them for this report.Please click here to see the photos with swastikas and confederate flag.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/02/17/swastikas-canada-freedom-convoy

Conclusion: Trudeau told the truth. The party the MP in question belongs to DOES stand with people waving swastikas and confederate flags.

The End.


You think the only one the Nazis hurt were Jews? Screw you for ignoring the suffering of others.I think what?

Show me where I said or implied that the Jews were the only people murdered (not hurt) by the Nazis.

Alternatively, you can write the following: Sorry, I'm an illiterate idiot with an attention span of a 5 year old.

Your choice.

Golfinho
02-18-22, 06:14
This from a guy on a website where guys fly thousands of miles for pussy. He he. What kind of SUV do you drive douche?Thanks for the laugh.

MarquisdeSade1
02-18-22, 06:45
You think the only one the Nazis hurt were Jews? Screw you for ignoring the suffering of others.https://amgreatness.com/2022/02/16/hillary-clintons-greatest-masterpiece/

PVMonger
02-18-22, 15:45
Yeah, it is the same old bullshit with you. Question the source. Change the subject. Now it is clean water. Truth is that the most important thing to do to save children is cheap energy in 3rd world nations.

https://phys.org/news/2018-10-air-pollution-children-year.html#text=Exposure%20 to%20 toxic%20 air%20 both, World%20 Health%20 Organization%20 warned%20 Monday.

Air pollution kills 600,000 children each year: WHO.

And the USA doubled oil production from 2010 on, and air quality actually went up. Say what? https://www.epa.gov/air-trends/air-quality-national-summary.

And water? https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jon-devine/fifty-years-after-1969-how-far-have-we-come..Here's what you just said in a nutshell: "People dies in car crashes every day. Some people eat Wheaties every day. Therefore, Wheaties cause people to die in car crashes."

The simple fact that oil production went up starting in 2010 and air quality improved are unrelated. Just like eating Wheaties and are crashes are unrelated. Virtually any scientific journal will say that. Like https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211012154833.htm or https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3298/4/3/66/htm or https://wildearthguardians.org/historical-archive/drilling-pollution-solutions/ etc. Wishing or saying that oil production makes the environment better does not make it better.

Oil production also has an impact on water quality. https://www.wilderness.org/articles/blog/7-ways-oil-and-gas-drilling-bad-environment or https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/01/05/some-states-confirm-water-pollution-from-drilling/4328859/ Wishing or saying that oil production makes the environment better does not make it better.

Pipeline leaks also impact the environment: https://www.americanrivers.org/threats-solutions/energy-development/pipeline-failures/ Wishing or saying that oil production makes the environment better does not make it better.

Oh, and then there's this, courtesy of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/how-trump-is-changing-science-environment In other words, Cheeto-Tweeto tried his best to screw up the environment. Thankfully, Biden has cancelled most of what the Orange Buffoon did.

But you are correct in stating that the Deepwater Horizon incident happened on Obama's watch. But, as usual, you are dead wrong on the reasons why it happened. Wrong. As. Usual. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-spill-the-scandal-and-the-president-193093/ and, best of all, https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-OILCOMMISSION/pdf/GPO-OILCOMMISSION.pdf.

Again, this is like teaching Algebra to my dog.

PVMonger
02-18-22, 15:51
You think the only one the Nazis hurt were Jews? Screw you for ignoring the suffering of others.And exactly where and when did he say that? Or is this just more fake outrage from one of the leading fascists on this board?

There use to be a joke that said "Question: How can you tell if a Trump supporter is lying? Answer: Their lips are moving." I guess we'll have to amend the last part and say." Their lips are moving or their fingers are typing or they're recording something."

Elvis 2008
02-18-22, 17:27
"What swastika waving truckers or supporters of swastika waving truckers is he talking about! I would really like to know. ".

What truckers? Well, these truckers.

Please click here to see the photos with swastikas and confederate flag.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/02/17/swastikas-canada-freedom-convoy

Conclusion: Trudeau told the truth. The party the MP in question belongs to DOES stand with people waving swastikas and confederate flags.So this is the method of quashing dissent? People protesting Trudeau and calling him a Nazi and waving swastikas are now supporting Nazis themselves? Well at least we now know the Democratic playbook. Have the FBI put in undercover officers in any demonstration to wave flags with swastikas on them.

"I am Jewish so do not even."

Do not what? Call you a douche? Because that is what you are.

In 1933, Hitler gave himself dictatorial powers via the Enabling Act. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-enabling-act.

And Trudeau has pretty much done the same thing: https://unherd.com/2022/02/justin-trudeaus-phoney-dictatorship/.

Its predecessor, the War Measures Act, was used three times: once for World War One, once for World War Two, and once to deal with a violent campaign of bombing, kidnapping, and murder by Quebecois separatists in 1970.

The article that is quoted from says Trudeau is not a dictator because he has so little support from the police and military. So Trudeau is not Hitler yet but a Hitler want to be.

I think it is a good time to define the difference between a Democrat and a Democratic douche. A douche like you Xpartan wants one party rule in the USA just as badly as the Nazis did and Trudeau does.

That is why you douches praise Carter, bash Reagan, and call the American public stupid when they do not vote like you want them to.

PVMonger
02-18-22, 17:58
Herte's some first had evidence that oil drilling and fracking, etc. Are completely safe and never cause environmental damage. https://news.yahoo.com/irreversible-no-easy-fix-water-123021908.html.

Elvis 2008
02-18-22, 18:04
Here's what you just said in a nutshell: "People dies in car crashes every day. Some people eat Wheaties every day. Therefore, Wheaties cause people to die in car crashes."No, YOU said increasing oil production leads to an increase in pollution. I showed it does not. Who the fuck do you think you are to "translate" for others here and lie? Oh right, you are a douche. It goes with the territory.


But you are correct in stating that the Deepwater Horizon incident happened on Obama's watch. But, as usual, you are dead wrong on the reasons why it happened. Wrong. As. Usual. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-spill-the-scandal-and-the-president-193093/.From the article, "In case you were wondering who's responsible," Obama told the nation, "I take responsibility. " "The buck," he reiterated the next day on the sullied Louisiana coastline, "stops with me."

Because you are a douche, you echo what Rolling Stone said in the headlines, "The inside story of how Obama failed to crack down on the corruption of the Bush years. " Yes, it is Bush's fault even when Obama admits it was his fault.

You cannot make this shit up.


this is like teaching Algebra to my dog.You are not teaching algebra but one party rule and fascism. Power is something dogs get. Maybe if you strengthen your weak ass limp wrists, your dog might respect you.

PVMonger
02-18-22, 20:13
No, YOU said increasing oil production leads to an increase in pollution. I showed it does not. Who the fuck do you think you are to "translate" for others here and lie? Oh right, you are a douche. It goes with the territory.

From the article, "In case you were wondering who's responsible," Obama told the nation, "I take responsibility. " "The buck," he reiterated the next day on the sullied Louisiana coastline, "stops with me."

Because you are a douche, you echo what Rolling Stone said in the headlines, "The inside story of how Obama failed to crack down on the corruption of the Bush years. " Yes, it is Bush's fault even when Obama admits it was his fault.

You cannot make this shit up.

You are not teaching algebra but one party rule and fascism. Power is something dogs get. Maybe if you strengthen your weak ass limp wrists, your dog might respect you.You showed nothing of the sort. You showed two absolutely unrelated things and said that they were related. I showed multiple sources that disproved what you said. I was not the one who lied. You were.

But that goes with the territory. Because you have no idea what you're talking about. As I said in my earlier, your logic is "People die in car accidents daily. People eat Wheaties daily. Therefore, Wheaties cause people to die in car accidents". But I don't expect you to understand. You can't.

Yes, Obama said "The buck stops here". That's what a real leader says. He was the man in charge so everything that happens under his watch is his fault. The real leader says that stuff is his fault even when it isn't. Hell, Harry Truman had a sign on his desk that said that.

The Mango Mussolini had a completely different approach. The buck, under him, stopped everywhere else. See, that's the difference between a real leader and a buffoon. The buffoon does what the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy does. He should have had a sign on his desk that said "The buck stops somewhere else. I take no responsibility. "

Because you are a douche, you have no idea what it takes to lead nor what it takes to be a real President. As the Orange Fruitcake so aptly proved, he could fool some of the people (his supporters) all of the time but he couldn't fool all of the people (the ones who kicked him to the curb) all of the time. All of which proves that his supporters are idiots.

Xpartan
02-18-22, 21:37
So this is the method of quashing dissent? People protesting Trudeau and calling him a Nazi and waving swastikas are now supporting Nazis themselves? A short time ago, you claimed I'd said that the Nazis only hurt (sic!) Jews.

I asked you to back up this idiotic claim. You pretended not to notice.

Instead you fired your usual brainless vitriol about the climate changes that had nothing to with the topic at hand.

And now this.

I'm asking again: where did I say or imply that the truckers supported Nazis?

Yes, it's true. These living brain donors blocking the streets of Ottawa protesting the government's health mandate, do compare Trudeau with Hitler and their "plight" with Holocaust. When did I say otherwise? I even brought a piece from Snopes stating exactly that.

Who gives a shit who your favorite morons support? My point is that contrary to yet another hysterical right-wing howling, Trudeau did not insult a Jewish MP and was completely factual when he said that her party stands with people waving swastikas. Because they fucking do wave swastikas.

Be a man. Back it up or admit that you're wrong. Don't be a fucking weasel.

Xpartan
02-18-22, 21:57
Let's see how Canadian PM Trudeau (who's been compared to Hitler and vilified nonstop by brainless truckers and our own Elvis, the King of Deflections) is compared versus our orange Torch of Liberty.

So far, Canada has seen 38,000 Covid deaths.

America - 930,000 deaths.

Canadian population is 36 million.

American population - 330 million.

Covid Deaths:

1 Canadian out of 947.

1 American out of 355.

Yeah, Blood Orange did a heck of a job, no doubt.

PVMonger
02-18-22, 22:08
Herte's some first had evidence that oil drilling and fracking, etc. Are completely safe and never cause environmental damage. https://news.yahoo.com/irreversible-no-easy-fix-water-123021908.html.Somehow, the sarcasm remarks were removed from my original post.

The fascists will misinterpret the post above so I guess I need to state it again. When I said that oil drilling and fracking are completely safe and never cause environmental damage, I was being sarcastic..

The news story I linked to, though, was anything but sarcastic.

Axel Heyst
02-18-22, 23:06
To Elvis, Marquis, CaliGuy, Canada, Golfinho and all freedom loving, rational, fellow mongers: the haters on this thread are not worth debating. You can't have an intelligent open dialogue with an apparatchik. It is not possible because they possess one track "party" minds that are set in concrete. If Obama were to rape Kasmella on live TV these idiots would applaud if the "party" said applaud. If Trump did the same thing they would want to burn him at the stake. We live in very strange times. Who thought that millions of Americans could be so fucking dogmatic and stupid? Not me. I always thought that America was the land of the free, home of the brave. No cliche. That Americans were rugged individualists and not Antifa Brown Shirts or BLM Marxist racists.

The good news is the Woke movement has had its mask (no pun intended) torn off and the people know what the movement is really all about thanks to Let's Go Brandon's incompetence & lack of ability, violence in the streets, insane school boards, open border, inflation, and a corrupt media. In 9 months we take back the Congress big time and Woke will be finished. In the meantime, I am putting all the apparatchiks and brown shirts who post on this thread on my ignore list. I am not telling you guys what to do, but if we all ignore these trolls maybe they will get tired of shitting on themselves and we can go back to being men talking about poontang.

P.S. For thinking people I recommend:

Victor Davis Hanson's "the Case for Trump" and his historical masterpiece "A War Like No Other. " Brilliant!

Thomas Sowell's "A Conflict of Visions" an insightful study of the ideological origins of our current political divisions.

And of course, Milton Friedman's masterpiece "Capitalism and Freedom" which shows what it is all about.

A. H.

ScatManDoo
02-18-22, 23:56
BAIER: When you hear Trump supporters point to that speech that he made on the Mall saying supporters should, "peacefully and patriotically March to the Capitol," what do you say?

REP. CHENEY: Look, I think you have to look at the speech, you have to look at the extent to which he was urging people to, "fight like hell. " You have to look at the extent to which he had been for months, weeks before that, telling people, "Come to Washington, it will be wild. " I also think that you have to look at what he has said since. He continues to suggest that the violence on January 6th was justified. When he says, "November 3rd was the insurrection and January 6th was a protest," what he is doing is continuing to undermine our electoral process. You know, he has gone to war with the rule of law, and I think that's also really important for people to understand. We had over 60 state and federal courts that heard his claims many of them were Trump judges. They heard the evidence in many of those cases, and they rejected them. The President of the United States has got a fundamental constitutional responsibility to ensure that the laws are faithfully executed, and that is what Donald Trump failed to do. .

MarquisdeSade1
02-19-22, 03:01
To Elvis, Marquis, CaliGuy, Canada, Golfinho and all freedom loving, rational, fellow mongers: the haters on this thread are not worth debating. You can't have an intelligent open dialogue with an apparatchik. It is not possible because they possess one track "party" minds that are set in concrete. If Obama were to rape Kasmella on live TV these idiots would applaud if the "party" said applaud. If Trump did the same thing they would want to burn him at the stake. We live in very strange times. Who thought that millions of Americans could be so fucking dogmatic and stupid? Not me. I always thought that America was the land of the free, home of the brave. No cliche. That Americans were rugged individualists and not Antifa Brown Shirts or BLM Marxist racists.

The good news is the Woke movement has had its mask (no pun intended) torn off and the people know what the movement is really all about thanks to Let's Go Brandon's incompetence & lack of ability, violence in the streets, insane school boards, open border, inflation, and a corrupt media. In 9 months we take back the Congress big time and Woke will be finished. In the meantime, I am putting all the apparatchiks and brown shirts who post on this thread on my ignore list. I am not telling you guys what to do, but if we all ignore these trolls maybe they will get tired of shitting on themselves and we can go back to being men talking about poontang..Well stated my fellow America loving Patriot, I can tell you one thing these fools all have in common, they're a bunch of racists that hate all things white (even if they happen to have white skin).

Victor Hanson is a very smart guy, check him out on Americangreatness dotcom.

Post-script I'm guessing they probably get paid by the CCP to troll real Americans online anywhere they can, you know the old divide and conquer strategy.

EihTooms
02-19-22, 03:02
BAIER: When you hear Trump supporters point to that speech that he made on the Mall saying supporters should, "peacefully and patriotically March to the Capitol," what do you say?..When did Trump say his violent, cop-killing Insurrection Mob should do that?

Can somebody here provide a link for a video recording or audio recording or credible real news source quote of Trump telling his Mob they should do what FUX's Baier said he told them they should do?

I have watched the clip of when he happened to say the word "peacefully" in a statement to his Mob there. But he was not directing or requesting that anyone do anything "peacefully".

My god, Cheney was on FUX News Channel! Repub / TrumpTV. That being the case, she knew better than most to assume everything that comes out of a FUX News Channel host's mouth is a lie that she ought to correct.

She of all people should have been prepared for that one.

This is where Trump happened to use the word "peacefully" early in his speech, nothing to do with directing his Mob to do any damn thing "peacefully":

"Transcript Of Trump's Speech At Rally Before Capitol Riot: NPR"https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial.


I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.He might as well have said, "I know this city will get 12 inches of snow tomorrow" for all the "should" or directing or requesting in that statement. And Trump knew it.

And this is what he said near the conclusion of his speech:


I think one of our great achievements will be election security. Because nobody until I came along had any idea how corrupt our elections were.

And again, most people would stand there at 9 o'clock in the evening and say I want to thank you very much, and they go off to some other life. But I said something's wrong here, something is really wrong, can have happened.

And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

EihTooms
02-19-22, 05:48
To Elvis, Marquis, CaliGuy, Canada, Golfinho and all freedom loving, rational, fellow mongers: the haters on this thread are not worth debating. You can't have an intelligent open dialogue with an apparatchik. It is not possible because they possess one track "party" minds that are set in concrete. If Obama were to rape Kasmella on live TV these idiots would applaud if the "party" said applaud. If Trump did the same thing they would want to burn him at the stake. We live in very strange times. Who thought that millions of Americans could be so fucking dogmatic and stupid? Not me. I always thought that America was the land of the free, home of the brave. No cliche. That Americans were rugged individualists and not Antifa Brown Shirts or BLM Marxist racists.

The good news is the Woke movement has had its mask (no pun intended) torn off and the people know what the movement is really all about thanks to Let's Go Brandon's incompetence & lack of ability, violence in the streets, insane school boards, open border, inflation, and a corrupt media. In 9 months we take back the Congress big time and Woke will be finished. In the meantime, I am putting all the apparatchiks and brown shirts who post on this thread on my ignore list. I am not telling you guys what to do, but if we all ignore these trolls maybe they will get tired of shitting on themselves and we can go back to being men talking about poontang..Just wondering; did you buy into this one too?

Birds aren't real!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyXRc6TNBBA

ScatManDoo
02-19-22, 19:07
Just wondering; did you buy into this one too?

Birds aren't real!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyXRc6TNBBAFor forum members that are simple and easily suckered by conspiracy theories the "Birds aren't real" suggestion must make their heads feel as if it's going to explode. HaHaHaHaHa.

Enjoy the experience at the next TrumpShit spreader event you attend. HaHaHaHaHa.

Xpartan
02-19-22, 20:29
To Elvis, Marquis, CaliGuy, Canada, Golfinho and all freedom loving, rational, fellow mongers: the haters on this thread are not worth debating. Smart move, actually. Why step outside of your bubble when your bubble provides you with everything that's holy, warm and cozy?

Xpartan
02-19-22, 20:38
Just wondering; did you buy into this one too?

Birds aren't real!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyXRc6TNBBAEven now that the jig is up they still have a working website and still sell merchandise. Shiiiiit!


Who are we?

The Birds Aren't Real movement has been active since 1976. Once a preventative cause, our initial goal was to stop the genocide of real birds. Unfortunately this was unsuccessful, and the government has since replaced every living bird with robotic replicas. Now our movement's prerogative is to make everyone aware of this fact.https://birdsarentreal.com/

Priceless!

PVMonger
02-19-22, 21:34
To Elvis, Marquis, CaliGuy, Canada, Golfinho and all freedom loving, rational, fellow mongers: the haters on this thread are not worth debating. You can't have an intelligent open dialogue with an apparatchik. It is not possible because they possess one track "party" minds that are set in concrete. If Obama were to rape Kasmella on live TV these idiots would applaud if the "party" said applaud. If Trump did the same thing they would want to burn him at the stake. We live in very strange times. Who thought that millions of Americans could be so fucking dogmatic and stupid? Not me. I always thought that America was the land of the free, home of the brave. No cliche. That Americans were rugged individualists and not Antifa Brown Shirts or BLM Marxist racists.

The good news is the Woke movement has had its mask (no pun intended) torn off and the people know what the movement is really all about thanks to Let's Go Brandon's incompetence & lack of ability, violence in the streets, insane school boards, open border, inflation, and a corrupt media. In 9 months we take back the Congress big time and Woke will be finished. In the meantime, I am putting all the apparatchiks and brown shirts who post on this thread on my ignore list. I am not telling you guys what to do, but if we all ignore these trolls maybe they will get tired of shitting on themselves and we can go back to being men talking about poontang..Below is an excerpt from a US news article from October 19th, 2020. The actual article is here https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-10-19/survey-many-republicans-long-for-the-1950s-democrats-crave-change.

"Fewer than half of Republicans – 46% – think American culture and the nation's way of life have changed for the better since the 1950's, compared to 62% of Democrats who feel that way, according to a sweeping report about American values and opinion by the nonpartisan group PRRI.

A deeper dive into views toward changes in American demographics shows why: 13% of Republicans, for example, say they prefer that America be made up of people from a wide variety of religions (53% of Democrats feel that way). One in four Republicans "mostly agree" with the statement that America should be made up of people from all over the world (63% of Democrats think so). Six out of ten Republicans believe that men are punished just for being men, compared to a fourth of Democrats who believe that.

Republicans also show less support for the Black Lives Matter movement, with 79% saying police killings of Blacks that have caused widespread civil unrest are isolated incidents (17% of Democrats think so). Republicans are also less likely than Democrats to believe there is "a lot of" discrimination against Blacks, Asian Americans or Hispanics. In fact, Republicans are more likely to believe white people suffer discrimination, with 57% of GOPers feeling that way, according to PRRI, which studies the intersection of culture, politics and religion.

The picture adds up to dramatically different visions of America held by Democrats and Republicans, with the latter group harkening for a time when the country was home to smaller percentages of racial and ethnic minorities, and when women had less political and social power.

"Perhaps the most powerful word Trump has ever uttered is the word, 'Again,' " says Robert P. Jones, founder and CEO of PRRI. "His call to 'Make American Great Again' – which in Trump's hands has largely meant a white grievance agenda fueled by xenophobic and racial fears – has transformed political conservatism from a principled philosophy to a rear-guard exercise in nostalgia, an effort to prop up the power of a declining white Christian base amid the changing demographics of the country."

So there you have it folks. The "real differences" between Republicans and Democrats.

Republicans think that things have gotten worse since 1950, they want America to remain all-Christian, all-white and male-dominated. They don't believe that people of color are discriminated against but think that white people are.

Democrats think that things have gotten better since 1959 and want America to become more diverse, more inclusive and less discriminatory.

Unfortunately for Republicans, America is getting less white, less Christian and more equal. I have said for a long time what Republicans would prefer a time when it was legal to own another human being and when women couldn't vote.

Oh, and Axel, if you think that your "threat" of putting me on your ignore list has me quaking in my boots, you've got to think (if you can) harder. I could care less. In fact, if you, Elvis, Marquis, CaliGuy, Canada, Golfinho never posted here again, it wouldn't bother me one bit. I read enough from idiot fascists every day, so I don't need to read more of your drivel.

Golfinho
02-19-22, 23:50
To Elvis, Marquis, CaliGuy, Canada, Golfinho and all freedom loving, rational, fellow mongers: the haters on this thread are not worth debating. You can't have an intelligent open dialogue with an apparatchik. It is not possible because they possess one track "party" minds. We live in very strange times. Who thought that millions of Americans could be so fucking dogmatic and stupid? Not me. I always thought that America was the land of the free, home of the brave. No cliche. That Americans were rugged individualists and not Antifa Brown Shirts or BLM Marxist racists.
The good news is the Woke movement has had its mask (no pun intended) torn off and the people know what the movement is.These sheeple virtue signaling how they're quadruple vaxxed and screaming to take away freedoms and whatever else they can get away with from good people who choose not to put Big Pharma's for profit toxins into their bodies are like some circumcised cuck who doesn't want someone else to have what he doesn't have.

Sure, if we want to travel, we grit our teeth and do what it takes and hope these vaccine mandates for a vaccine that Doesn't Work has its Emperor Has No Clothes Moment soon.

Elvis 2008
02-20-22, 01:28
Who thought that millions of Americans could be so fucking dogmatic and stupid? Not me.My thought was it was a government check but MDS saying it is the CCP cracked me up.

Unlike the douches, I am capable of being critical and objective. I thought Trump should have banned travel from China sooner, done better with testing, and moved more quickly on masks. It turns out all that did not matter. Still, for whatever reason, you have this meme that Trump killed a million people, and it cracks me up. A Republican buddy of mine thinks Trump is in trouble politically because he shut the economy down, but I do not fault him for that. Only Sweden had the balls to not close and the final decision there was made by a doctor not a pol.

The interesting thing is why do them hold to the meme when more people died with Covid under Biden than Trump.

AH, you ever dated or been friends with a narcissist? It is interesting how they draw you in. They make you feel special as if you and they are better than everyone else. It is intoxicating and then they set down a set of rules, acts or demand that you articulate their crazy beliefs, which always benefit them, and they want to see if you can dance to that tune. This is where their smugness comes from.

Matt Taibbi had a good point. He said that the smugness used to always be Republican (George Will, William Buckley), but now all the snobs are exclusively on the left.

Every time I have seen such an "elite" group, I have balked at it. Such a group was either crazy or made up of a bunch of dicks out for themselves.

The funny part is the "elite" today is made up a bunch of nerds. They are the tech moguls. So the Democratic are actually dancing to the music of nerds. Nerds! (That is an homage to the movie Revenge of the Nerds).

What is cool to them is cheating in elections now. We saw Bernie Sanders get screwed in the 2016 and 2020 Democratic primaries. Everyone was open about that. What we now know is Hilary totally tried to rig the 2016 presidential elections, and you have to be blind to think 2020 was fair. It is pretty obvious the tech moguls and Wall Street guys who are the new Democratic party all got together and said Biden was their man in the middle of the primary season. How the Democratic voters voted hardly mattered. All the other candidates were out once the tech guys said Biden was the winner.

The Democratic took judges not getting involved as proof they won in 2020 when in fact the judges did not want an entire election being overturned dumped on them. Republicans now know to dispute results before the final verdict is turned in.

We know that a black man sponsoring Biden got him the Dem nomination. We also know the cheating mostly took place in African American neighborhoods, and the payback has been an attack on white privilege. Yes, now the African Americans are allowed to be racist against whites. Where they has been seen the worst is in the school systems. Black do worse at SATs? Get rid of SATs. Blacks get into gifted and talented schools less than Asians? Get rid of the schools. It is funny now how much white privilege is being used to blast not just whites but heaped upon Asians and to a lesser degree Latins and native Americans.

It is the education issue that is blowing up in the face of Dems. That is what did the Dems in with the Virginia governor's race and then you had school board members being recalled in San Francisco. I cannot believe the Dems in San Francisco did this.

And so, AH you are right. You do not beat narcissists with logic. You beat them with popularity with saying they are uncool. The thing about the previous elections is that Republicans really did not want to believe the cheating was this bad. Now you have these Democratic morons saying having to show identification to vote is Jim Crow 2.0. Yes, preventing Dems from cheating is racist. You cannot make this shit up.

Aphasia is one of the first things you see with dementia. "Alzheimer's disease can cause aphasia, which is a decline in language function due to brain disease. " https://www.verywellhealth.com/alzheimers-disease-and-word-finding-difficulties-98554.

You do not have to be a doctor to see Biden has this. It was almost the ultimate power play to get Biden in as president despite his early dementia and Trudeau to declare martial law. It is almost like the elites are seeing how much shit they can get away with, a game to see if they can destroy democracy. China has a better form of government don't you know.

Just clamping down on voter fraud would have given Republicans wins in 2022. The narcissistic Democratic douche attitude will take years to die, but 2022 will be the first blow. You are right AH. You cannot reason with narcissists. All our posting is doing is showing these Democratic douches how "special" they are. It is best just to put them on ignore.

MarquisdeSade1
02-20-22, 07:56
My thought was it was a government check but MDS saying it is the CCP cracked me up.

Unlike the douches, I am capable of being critical and objective. I thought Trump should have banned travel from China sooner, done better with testing, and moved more quickly on masks. It turns out all that did not matter. Still, for whatever reason, you have this meme that Trump killed a million people, and it cracks me up. A Republican buddy of mine thinks Trump is in trouble politically because he shut the economy down, but I do not fault him for that. Only Sweden had the balls to not close and the final decision there was made by a doctor not a pol.

The interesting thing is why do them hold to the meme when more people died with Covid under Biden than Trump.

AH, you ever dated or been friends with a narcissist? It is interesting how they draw you in. They make you feel special as if you and they are better than everyone else. It is intoxicating and then they set down a set of rules, acts or demand that you articulate their crazy beliefs, which always benefit them, and they want to see if you can dance to that tune. This is where their smugness comes from.JFK cheated then I think its clear Pelosi cheated in 2008 and gave the nomination to Barry Hussein over Hillary, didn't she win more delegates.

They probably promised her don't worry we will rig 2016 for you, ooops here comes Trump down the golden escalator a gift from the Heavens.

So they doubled down with 400 million from Zuckhead and 400-500 million form Bloomturd, et al.

Will they bring Hillary and Bubba back for 2024? They still owe her a rigged election or 2?

Xpartan
02-20-22, 08:38
Sweden (population 10.4 million) has lost 17,000 people to Covid.

Finland (population 5. 5 million) has lost 6,000.

Norway (population 5. 4 million) has lost 6,000.

Denmark (population 5. 8 million) has lost 4,000.

What's wrong with this picture?

Dead people, that's what. Sweden has lost up to 2. 5 more people per capita to Covid than its Scandinavian neighbors, you know, the ball-less countries that, unlike Sweden, did take the pandemic seriously.

Of course, why would Elvis even care? He's too busy admiring Sweden's cojones.

And yet, even "ballsy" Sweden did better, almost twice better, than the good ole' USA under the guardianship of the Stable Orange Genius.

Can you imagine Elvis' awe of the balls on that guy? Whoppers!

EihTooms
02-20-22, 10:42
Unlike the douches, I am capable of being critical and objective. I thought Trump should have banned travel from China sooner, done better with testing, and moved more quickly on masks. It turns out all that did not matter. Still, for whatever reason, you have this meme that Trump killed a million people, and it cracks me up...No other person on this planet is as directly responsible for the deaths, economic destruction, job losses, crippling of international travel, collapse of worldwide supply chains and the subsequent inflation due to this Pandemic than Donald J. Trump:

Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv-idUSKBN21C3N5

Exclusive: U.S. axed CDC expert job in China months before virus outbreak

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv-idUSKBN21910S

Trump says China should have told us about coronavirus. He removed the official meant to do that.
A US epidemiologist was embedded with the Chinese CDC. The Trump administration discontinued the position.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/23/21190713/coronavirus-trump-china-cdc-embed-quick

Trump calls coronavirus Democrats' 'new hoax'

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-calls-coronavirus-democrats-new-hoax-n1145721

Trump, downplaying virus, has mocked wearing masks for months.
He wore one as he headed to the hospital Friday afternoon.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-downplaying-virus-mocked-wearing-masks-months/story?id=73392694

Donald Trump says coronavirus will 'go away without a vaccine' - video

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2020/may/09/donald-trump-coronavirus-will-go-away-without-a-vaccine-video

Trump Predicted Covid, Covid, Covid Would End After The Election. It's Worse Than Ever

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/11/11/trump-predicted-covid-covid-covid-would-end-after-the-election-its-worse-than-ever/

EihTooms
02-20-22, 10:55
Below is an excerpt from a US news article from October 19th, 2020. The actual article is here https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-10-19/survey-many-republicans-long-for-the-1950s-democrats-crave-change.

"Fewer than half of Republicans 46% think American culture and the nation's way of life have changed for the better since the 1950's, compared to 62% of Democrats who feel that way, according to a sweeping report about American values and opinion by the nonpartisan group PRRI.

A deeper dive into views toward changes in American demographics shows why: 13% of Republicans, for example, say they prefer that America be made up of people from a wide variety of religions (53% of Democrats feel that way). One in four Republicans "mostly agree" with the statement that America should be made up of people from all over the world (63% of Democrats think so). Six out of ten Republicans believe that men are punished just for being men, compared to a fourth of Democrats who believe that.

Republicans also show less support for the Black Lives Matter movement, with 79% saying police killings of Blacks that have caused widespread civil unrest are isolated incidents (17% of Democrats think so). Republicans are also less likely than Democrats to believe there is "a lot of" discrimination against Blacks, Asian Americans or Hispanics...Yes, and the reason people are suckers for basing their vote on those and so many other Social / Culture War issues is because all of the things that have changed about America and the world would have happened no matter who you voted for. Those things happened and will continue to happen anyway. Get used to it. Get over it.

Eisenhower, Reagan, Clinton, Obama, Trump, doesn't matter. Nobody you vote for can hold back the tide of where democratic societies want to go, and will go, no matter what, sooner or later.

I suppose the move would be to eliminate democracy so people won't have a choice, maybe that will slow things down. That's what the Republican Party is trying desperately to do now.

We'll see.

PedroMorales
02-20-22, 12:24
Sweden (population 10.4 million) has lost 17,000 people to Covid.

Finland (population 5. 5 million) has lost 6,000.

Norway (population 5. 4 million) has lost 6,000.

Denmark (population 5. 8 million) has lost 4,000.!https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Can you explain variations here, between EU countries (eg Sweden v Nazi Germany v Fascist Italy v Nazi Austria? How come Iran's rates were so high, given they have a relatively young population?

These are rhetorical questions as you, being a Dixiecrat, can provide no worthwhile solution. Too busy stirring shit in Ukraine, I guess, for Hunter and his Nazi mates.

PVMonger
02-20-22, 15:57
My thought was it was a government check but MDS saying it is the CCP cracked me up.

Unlike the douches, I am capable of being critical and objective. I thought Trump should have banned travel from China sooner, done better with testing, and moved more quickly on masks. It turns out all that did not matter. Still, for whatever reason, you have this meme that Trump killed a million people, and it cracks me up. A Republican buddy of mine thinks Trump is in trouble politically because he shut the economy down, but I do not fault him for that. Only Sweden had the balls to not close and the final decision there was made by a doctor not a pol.

The interesting thing is why do them hold to the meme when more people died with Covid under Biden than Trump.

AH, you ever dated or been friends with a narcissist? It is interesting how they draw you in. They make you feel special as if you and they are better than everyone else. It is intoxicating and then they set down a set of rules, acts or demand that you articulate their crazy beliefs, which always benefit them, and they want to see if you can dance to that tune. This is where their smugness comes from.Xpartan has already disproved the ridiculous that Sweden did good on COVID.

Now, let's examine the rest of this drivel and see whether it is a lie, a mis-statement, a distortion or a half-truth.

1. Did more people die under Biden than Trump? Distortion. The Orange Menace was only in office until November 3rd, 2020. The first COVID case in the US was announced January 21st. So roughly 8-1/2 months. Biden has been in office for roughly 13 months. The fact that only about 60% of supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy have been vaccinated adds to the distortion. Republicans are the only political party in history to choose death as a means to "own the libs".

2. The elite are a bunch of nerds. Half-truth. It is interesting that Elvis, being "anti nerd" is using a nerd-based platform (the internet) to type on a computer (another nerd-based invention) his disdain of nerds. Comical.

3. Election cheating is all on the Democrats. Lie, mis-statement, distortion and half-truth. Ahhh, the judges overturned the lawsuits because they didn't want to get blamed. Sure thing. The cheating mostly happened in black neighborhoods. Sure. This is just more of the same Republican outrage. The proof that they claim to have? "We know it happened but the deep state is preventing us from showing it. " Sure thing. By the way, the dog ate my homework.

4. Democrats are the ones that are racist. Distortion. I haven't labeled this a lie because of course there are racist Democrats. But, as far as I know, no Democrats have advocated banning books in schools. No Democrats have advocated that teaching history might offend the delicate sensibilities of some snowflake child. Only a Republican would claim that book banning, etc. Is good.

5. Aphasia. Half-truth. Of course aphasia is seen in dementia patients. We saw language problems crop up with the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy. He is the guy with dementia. https://www.statnews.com/2017/05/23/donald-trump-speaking-style-interviews/ As to Biden? Well, he has a long-term stuttering problem. But, sure, let's ignore "Yo Semites" and "covfefe" and focus on Biden's non-existent dementia.

6. You can't reason with narcissists. Half-truth. Nor can you reason with someone whose mind is closed, whose eyes and ears are blocked but whose mouth runs in overdrive. God gave us two ears and one mouth for a reason.

So there you have it, folks. More drivel from Elvis. Like the OTTIFPFG, he can't help himself.

ScatManDoo
02-20-22, 16:29
Unlike the douches, I am capable of being critical and objective.Yet, you only appear to be a blowhard.


you have to be blind to think 2020 was fair. Over 60 courts determined these empty cries of voter fraud are just bullshit from second rate loser Trump incompetent lawyers. They lost over 60 frivolous court cases.


It is pretty obvious the tech moguls and Wall Street guys who are the new Democratic party all got together and said Biden was their man in the middle of the primary season. How the Democratic voters voted hardly mattered. All the other candidates were out once the tech guys said Biden was the winner.While Elvis was jerking off to fantasies of Chinese laser tag players changing votes from overseas, regular old campaigning and voting pushed Biden to the top of the democratic field on Super Tuesday in the south.


Matt Taibbi had a good point. He said that the smugness used to always be Republican (George Will, William Buckley), but now all the snobs are exclusively on the left.Matt never met a douche named Elvis.

PVMonger
02-20-22, 17:36
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Can you explain variations here, between EU countries (eg Sweden v Nazi Germany v Fascist Italy v Nazi Austria? How come Iran's rates were so high, given they have a relatively young population?

These are rhetorical questions as you, being a Dixiecrat, can provide no worthwhile solution. Too busy stirring shit in Ukraine, I guess, for Hunter and his Nazi mates.Gee, Pedro, maybe because the Scandanavian countries mentioned are much closer, physically, economically, demographically, racially etc than to Italy, Iran, Colombia, etc.

But, hey, I'm just spitballin' here. You are the real jenius (spelling intentional for the fascists). Almost as much of a jenius as the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy and the rest of his supporters.

PVMonger
02-20-22, 17:43
Yes, and the reason people are suckers for basing their vote on those and so many other Social / Culture War issues is because all of the things that have changed about America and the world would have happened no matter who you voted for. Those things happened and will continue to happen anyway. Get used to it. Get over it.

Eisenhower, Reagan, Clinton, Obama, Trump, doesn't matter. Nobody you vote for can hold back the tide of where democratic societies want to go, and will go, no matter what, sooner or later.

I suppose the move would be to eliminate democracy so people won't have a choice, maybe that will slow things down. That's what the Republican Party is trying desperately to do now.

We'll see.IMHO, the election of Obama changed the calculus. There are far too many white supremacists, fascists, racists and xenophobes in the USA who were livid that the US elected a person of color. They, of course, will deny it, but the simple fact remains that within days of Obama being elected, Moscow Mitch (at least I think it was him) said that he goal was to make Obama a one-term President. Ole' Moscow Mitch and other Republicans didn't say that when Clinton was elected and Republicans didn't say that when other Democrats were elected President.

The racists were incensed. They still are. And that's what brought us the last guy. IMHO, of course.

Cali Guy
02-20-22, 17:54
No other person on this planet is as directly responsible for the deaths, economic destruction, job losses, crippling of international travel, collapse of worldwide supply chains and the subsequent inflation due to this Pandemic than Donald J. Trump:

Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv-idUSKBN21C3N5

Exclusive: U.S. axed CDC expert job in China months before virus outbreak

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv-idUSKBN21910S.China creates a virus and spreads it all over the world and the dumbest people in the world blame Trump. It is easy to why these guys are failures in life.

Cali Guy
02-20-22, 17:56
My thought was it was a government check but MDS saying it is the CCP cracked me up.

Unlike the douches, I am capable of being critical and objective. I thought Trump should have banned travel from China sooner, done better with testing, and moved more quickly on masks. It turns out all that did not matter. Still, for whatever reason, you have this meme that Trump killed a million people, and it cracks me up. A Republican buddy of mine thinks Trump is in trouble politically because he shut the economy down, but I do not fault him for that. Only Sweden had the balls to not close and the final decision there was made by a doctor not a pol.

The interesting thing is why do them hold to the meme when more people died with Covid under Biden than Trump...Great post. The socialists here don't like the truth so expect some backlash from them.

EihTooms
02-20-22, 19:25
China creates a virus

Possibly. In this case, it isn't all that important where or how it got started, because:

Trump Is THE World Leader Who Converted It Into The Pandemic It Became

And only the dumbest people in the world think dismantling the acknowledged critical Pandemic Prevention and Response Systems from the very place where, sure enough, the first notable outbreak occurred, against all expert advice and warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid, then pocketing the intel on its spread for self-serving reasons, claiming the known to him deadly characteristics of it were a Hoax then spending the next critical months mocking the known effective mitigation efforts and a year trying to convince everyone listening to him not to bother inventing a vaccine for it or taking one because it is disappearing already and "will go away without a vaccine", all as the President of the United States of. America, would not see his direct and most influential contribution to converting what very likely could and would have been the kind of Preventable and manageable regional outbreak that occurs somewhere in the world all the time into the Trump's Pandemic it became.

There is no more incriminating timeline and documented sequence of one disastrous decision after another going all the way back to 2018 of a high profile or world leader doing exactly that than there is for Trump.

There certainly isn't one for Fauci. There isn't even one as bad as Trump's for China's own Xi!

No wonder the numbskulls who can't or refuse to see the blatantly inarguable documented facts of it continue to vote for Great Repub Crashes, Recessions and Massive Job Losses over and over and over again expecting a different result.

Xpartan
02-20-22, 19:37
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Can you explain variations here, between EU countries (eg Sweden v Nazi Germany v Fascist Italy v Nazi Austria? How come Iran's rates were so high, given they have a relatively young population?

These are rhetorical questions as you, being a Dixiecrat, can provide no worthwhile solution. Too busy stirring shit in Ukraine, I guess, for Hunter and his Nazi mates.Sorry, can't help you. I don't do deflections. If you want to challenge the numbers I brought up in my original post, be my guest.

To babble and gabble, there are Elvis, Canada et al. You won't be bored.

EihTooms
02-20-22, 20:21
IMHO, the election of Obama changed the calculus. There are far too many white supremacists, fascists, racists and xenophobes in the USA who were livid that the US elected a person of color. They, of course, will deny it, but the simple fact remains that within days of Obama being elected, Moscow Mitch (at least I think it was him) said that he goal was to make Obama a one-term President. Ole' Moscow Mitch and other Republicans didn't say that when Clinton was elected and Republicans didn't say that when other Democrats were elected President.

The racists were incensed. They still are. And that's what brought us the last guy. IMHO, of course.I get your point and agree with you that there was something about Obama being POTUS that drove the winger Repubs more bonkers and anarchical than ever before.

The Repubs might not have had for Carter, Clinton and other Dems that inaugural night meeting pledging to unanimously oppose every Obama effort to pull us out of that particular Great Repub Crash, Recession and Massive Job Destruction as Moscow Mitch called to order on Obama's inaugural night. But they tried to make every Dem a one term president.

The difference here was, yes, Obama was a black man and therefore it was more important to Kentucky Moscow Mitch than ever not to leave one stone unturned or neglect to have any meeting that might inspire the way to accomplish that goal.

Why?

Was it because the election of a black man drove them insane? Nope. That had already happened. In those pre-Trump days, it had not yet occurred to them to storm the Capitol, attack and kills some cops and try to overturn a free and fair American election.

Besides, Obama getting elected at that moment in history didn't really bother Repubs and wingers all that much. I even know several who pride themselves in having voted for Obama in 2008. Partially as fake evidence that, see, they are not racist.

But a greater reason they were not all that bothered about Obama getting elected at that particular point in time, 2008, is directly connected to what DID drive them further insane about him being POTUS.

See, Bush2 and his Reaganite Repub policies had produced such a colossal mess of everything across the board, to such an historic extent that they were actually happy to have the first black guy take over right smack in the middle of it crashing down around our ears, FAIL to fix and clean up the mess and consequently not only be a one term Dem but the very last black POTUS as well.

However, history shows what happened instead was something that no winger Repubs who voted for Obama for the aforementioned reasons and something that turned out to be inaugural night meeting arranger Kentucky Moscow Mitch and his fellow Repubs' worst nightnare come true:

What happened was Obama fixed and cleaned up their mess in historic fashion. And THAT is the thing about Obama, the first black man, being POTUS that drove the winger Repubs over the cliff into total, America-hating insanity.

It wasn't so much that he got elected. It was that, despite the colossal challenges and problems they dumped in his lap and all that Repub unanimity to obstruct and thwart his every effort to clean up their biggest pre-Trump mess yet, Obama more than met the challenges and was a great President.

Canada
02-20-22, 21:24
China creates a virus

Possibly. In this case, it isn't all that important where or how it got started, because:

Trump Is THE World Leader Who Converted It Into The Pandemic It Became

And only the dumbest people in the world think dismantling the acknowledged critical Pandemic Prevention and Response Systems from the very place where, sure enough, the first notable outbreak occurred, against all expert advice and warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid, then pocketing the intel on its spread for self-serving reasons, claiming the known to him deadly characteristics of it were a Hoax then spending the next critical months mocking the known effective mitigation efforts and a year trying to convince everyone listening to him not to bother inventing a vaccine for it or taking one because it is disappearing already and "will go away without a vaccine", all as the President of the United States of. America, would not see his direct and most influential contribution to converting what very likely could and would have been the kind of Preventable and manageable regional outbreak that occurs somewhere in the world all the time into the Trump's Pandemic it became.

There is no more incriminating timeline and documented sequence of one disastrous decision after another going all the way back to 2018 of a high profile or world leader doing exactly that than there is for Trump.

There certainly isn't one for Fauci. There isn't even one as bad as Trump's for China's own Xi!.Unbelievable that the Wuhan virus killed millions in China and millions around the world and there are people dumb enough to blame Trump. But look at the post I am replying to. There are people this dumb. In documented facts Trump developed 3 vaccines and before our incompetent Biden took office. Biden has managed to let more people die in USA than Trump did. Maybe if Biden had listened to Trump the death toll would be much less. But there are people dumb enough to try to blame Trump for the Wuhan virus and now the Biden virus. Not only has Biden botched the Wuhan virus but his new Biden virus continues to kill. Facts are facts. Biden is killing people every day.

Canada
02-20-22, 21:33
Xpartan has already disproved the ridiculous that Sweden did good on COVID.

Now, let's examine the rest of this drivel and see whether it is a lie, a mis-statement, a distortion or a half-truth.

1. Did more people die under Biden than Trump? Distortion. The Orange Menace was only in office until November 3rd, 2020. The first COVID case in the US was announced January 21st. So roughly 8-1/2 months. Biden has been in office for roughly 13 months. The fact that only about 60% of supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy have been vaccinated adds to the distortion. Republicans are the only political party in history to choose death as a means to "own the libs".

2. The elite are a bunch of nerds. Half-truth. It is interesting that Elvis, being "anti nerd" is using a nerd-based platform (the internet) to type on a computer (another nerd-based invention) his disdain of nerds. Comical.

3. Election cheating is all on the Democrats. Lie, mis-statement, distortion and half-truth. Ahhh, the judges overturned the lawsuits because they didn't want to get blamed. Sure thing. The cheating mostly happened in black neighborhoods. Sure. This is just more of the same Republican outrage. The proof that they claim to have? "We know it happened but the deep state is preventing us from showing it. " Sure thing. By the way, the dog ate my homework..Why do you contradict Elvis's facts with your lies. Do you realize that non of your replies were even half truths? They are blatant lies. Only a complete fool would think that even one of your statements was true. Keep ignoring the facts like the rest of the socialists. Americans are waking up. They are not going to stand for the democrats hatred of America, wokeness, open borders, inflation and increased crime. You can ignore inflation and crime like Biden does but it does not go away unless you do something about it. Republicans will do something when America votes put these socialists.

MarquisdeSade1
02-20-22, 21:37
Sweden (population 10.4 million) has lost 17,000 people to Covid.

Finland (population 5. 5 million) has lost 6,000.

Norway (population 5. 4 million) has lost 6,000.

Denmark (population 5. 8 million) has lost 4,000.

What's wrong with this picture?

Dead people, that's what. Sweden has lost up to 2. 5 more people per capita to Covid than its Scandinavian neighbors, you know, the ball-less countries that, unlike Sweden, did take the pandemic seriously.

Of course, why would Elvis even care? He's too busy admiring Sweden's cojones.

And yet, even "ballsy" Sweden did better, almost twice better, than the good ole' USA under the guardianship of the Stable Orange Genius.

Can you imagine Elvis' awe of the balls on that guy? Whoppers!Statistics don't lie, but liars love statistics.

Elvis 2008
02-20-22, 21:53
China creates a virus and spreads it all over the world and the dumbest people in the world blame Trump. It is easy to why these guys are failures in life.Right and people are not buying that shit that Trump is at fault anymore. Biden came in and all he did was be a bigger asshole about restrictions, and the deaths were worse under him.

Maybe we will have the Dems try to claim credit for the virus abating. LOL.

Really good story about the 2022 elections. It is amazing how many Dems are dropping out now that they cannot cheat.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/morale-low-house-democrats-retirement-surge-30-year-high

If you scroll to the bottom of the page here, https://www.predictit.org/markets/17/US-Elections, you get the odds on the 2022 elections. These are not polls but people betting and putting actual money to work.

Odds Republicans win house in 2022 are now 85%, 77% for the Senate, and 54% for president in 2024.

ScatManDoo
02-20-22, 22:04
Durham Reports that Clinton Campaign Paid to 'Infiltrate' Trump Tower, White House Servers. The allegation is:

"Lawyers for the Clinton campaign paid a technology company to "infiltrate" servers belonging to Trump Tower, and later the White House, in order to establish an "inference" and "narrative" to bring to government agencies linking Donald Trump to Russia, a filing from Special Counsel John Durham says."

"In connection with these efforts, Tech Executive-1 exploited his access to non-public and / or proprietary Internet data," the filing states. "Tech Executive-1 also enlisted the assistance of researchers at a USA -based university who were receiving and analyzing large amounts of Internet data in connection with a pending federal government cybersecurity research contract."

"Tech Executive-1 tasked these researchers to mine Internet data to establish 'an inference' and 'narrative' tying then-candidate Trump to Russia," Durham states. "In doing so, Tech Executive-1 indicated that he was seeking to please certain 'VIPs,' referring to individuals at Law Firm-1 and the Clinton campaign."

"Former chief investigator of the Trump-Russia probe for the House Intelligence Committee under then-Rep. Devin Nunes, are-Calif. , Kash Patel, said the filing "definitively shows that the Hillary Clinton campaign directly funded and ordered its lawyers at Perkins Coie to orchestrate a criminal enterprise to fabricate a connection between President Trump and Russia."

If these allegations hold up and are true, it will bigger than Watergate.A week ago this story blew up all over Fake Fox News.

Each talking head on Fox reported it each hour. With increased lies each hour about this "News?" story.

One week later, numerous legitimate news sources have exposed this for what it was.

Hot Air!

Thanks for the misinformation AxeHole.

Xpartan
02-21-22, 04:21
liars love statistics.Crackpots love one-liners.

Xpartan
02-21-22, 04:30
1. Why do you contradict Elvis's facts with your lies.

2. Do you realize that non of your replies were even half truths?

3. They are blatant lies.

4. Only a complete fool would think that even one of your statements was true.

5. Keep ignoring the facts like the rest of the socialists. Americans are waking up.

6. They are not going to stand for the democrats hatred of America, wokeness, open borders, inflation and increased crime.

7. You can ignore inflation and crime like Biden does but it does not go away unless you do something about it.

8. Republicans will do something when America votes put these socialists.Logical construct is a method to explain one's theory by combining established facts and various data in a straightforward, orderly way.

Anyone who doesn't think that OP's logical construct belongs a 10-year old child please explain why.

EihTooms
02-21-22, 04:46
Right and people are not buying that shit that Trump is at fault anymore. Biden came in and all he did was be a bigger asshole about restrictions, and the deaths were worse under him.

Maybe we will have the Dems try to claim credit for the virus abating. LOL.Oh come on, man. There are only 3-4 blatantly obvious dots to connect and they are right there, verifiable and fully apparent to everyone. I'm sure even you can connect them:

1. Trump and only Trump defunds and fully dismantles the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams and systems in China in 2018 in defiance of all expert advice and warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid.

Fully documented fact.

2. Trump and only Trump is the potus who got the earliest and most accurate intel about the virus' deadly and airborne transmission characteristics, chooses to largely pocket them for self-serving reasons and instead goes onto the world stage to thank and praise Xi for his transparency and help in getting it "under control" by reducing all cases to "1 out of China, 15 here and soon to be near zero. " A lie.

Fully documented fact.

3. Trump and only Trump is the potus who announces its risks and dangers are only a "Democrat Party Hoax"! That they are just trying to politicize it because, you know, it really isn't all that bad.

Trump and only Trump is then recorded admitting to Bob Woodward that "it is really, really that bad".

Fully documented fact.

4. Trump and only Trump is the world leader who then spends almost the next year mocking the proven mitigation measures, the ones specifically meant to prevent a virus outbreak somewhere, anywhere, from becoming a Pandemic, and repeating the lie that it is "disappearing" and "will go away without a vaccine", thereby further encouraging the behaviors that produce a Pandemic while discouraging anyone from bothering to invent a vaccine for it or taking one if some company was foolish enough to spend the time and money inventing one.

He was still repeating a variation of that latter lie with his inaccurate prediction that this silly "Covid Covid Covid" issue will go away after the election, "you watch".

Fully documented fact.

See? Just four big fat orange dots to connect with almost no other notable dots on the page.

Name another world leader or any other person on the planet with as damning a series of actions and decisions from the very beginning almost perfectly designed to pave the way for, develop and worsen a Pandemic.

Elvis 2008
02-21-22, 05:27
Why do you contradict Elvis's facts with your lies. Do you realize that non of your replies were even half truths? They are blatant lies. Only a complete fool would think that even one of your statements was true. Keep ignoring the facts like the rest of the socialists.Canada,

I have put these guys on ignore. I remember one time getting upset with someone with dementia, and I caught myself. I was like what does it say about me that I was upset at this person and had a laugh.

With Covid, Biden is polling negative on the virus, and I do not think it is over. I think the whole notion of his doing a mandate with an experimental vaccine that he knew was illegal showed what Biden was all about. The data is in. Lockdowns did not work. Neither did most masks. The vaccines did not work as advertised and we got to see how the elites can so easily strip our rights from us. I do not think that is going to be forgotten.

I posted in another thread that I feel like the reason a lot of Democrats were so pissed at people like me is that I did not let the virus control my life. I am kind of kicking myself for not going to Sao Paulo when the pandemic was in full swing because it would have been cool to see that city without so much effing traffic. I did go to Medellin, Cancun, Bogota, and Mexico City when the traffic was down and had a great time. I fucked so much my dick almost fell off. There were so many hotties that were down on the luck that I got to "help" he he. Meanwhile, the Democratic DS were glued to their TVs scared as shit in their basements for 2+ years.

Logic does not work on these Democratic DS. All these Dems were bitching for years about Trump and the end of Democracy. Now they have the presidency and both the House and Senate and still cannot get shit done. Biden should be getting anything he wants but he has pissed off members of his own party. The excuses about their ineffectiveness are going to be epic. That is why so many are leaving.

Bill Maher is desperately trying to save the Democratic party. His latest episode may as well have been titled, "Democrats get your head out of your ass."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmwk9FvsLL4

The first segment was about recalling the San Francisco the because that the will not prosecute criminals. Seriously.

Then it was on to the panel with two fellow Democrats. They talked about the education board members in San Francisco getting recalled, Democrats watching Fox News, Ukraine, the number of Dems retiring in Congress, and crime. They could not agree on anything. Hell, Maher said the Dems were going to get slaughtered in 2022, and he is right. The question is how bad will it be.

These are the same fools who swore that getting Trump out would be great. Now even you have to wonder how many Democrats are saying, "Maybe Trump was not bad after all. At least he was not demented."

So we have like four Democrats here who are demented taking marching orders from a president with dementia. Like AH said, I just do not think we should take them seriously anymore.

Elvis 2008
02-21-22, 05:39
Statistics don't lie, but liars love statistics.Yeah, Sweden is like in the bottom 25% of Europe when it comes to deaths and case numbers of Covid.

Thing is the Democratic like to compare Sweden to countries with lower rates. When you compare Sweden to the UK, Sweden did much better.

You know you are a Democratic when you say that is not a valid comparison because of demographics ETC because you know who have been comparing those rates throughout the pandemic? The people in the UK.

Sweden stood for freedom when the elites in the rest of the world took an axe to civil liberties, and the cessation of those liberties did not do jack shit to contain the virus.

EihTooms
02-21-22, 05:47
Logical construct is a method to explain one's theory by combining established facts and various data in a straightforward, orderly way.

Anyone who doesn't think that OP's logical construct belongs a 10-year old child please explain why.Ok, I'm going with closer to age 3-4.

The only thing he got right were the number in proper sequence. And those are the ages when that usually happens:

"Math Skills and Milestones by Age.
Understood. For learning and thinking differences"

https://www.understood.org/articles/en/math-skills-what-to-expect-at-different-ages


Preschoolers (ages 34 years)
Recognize shapes in the real world

Start sorting things by color, shape, size, or purpose

Compare and contrast using classifications like height, size, or gender

Count up to at least 20 and accurately point to and count items in a group

Understand that numerals stand for number names (5 stands for five).

PedroMorales
02-21-22, 08:19
Sorry, can't help you. Of course, you can't because you have nothing to offer. You compare Sweden to the other Nordic states but refuse to compare it to other EU states or important states like Iran that have a different Covid distribution. That is because you have a hard on for Trump.

If Russia, China and Germany prevail with Nordstream 2 and with the Belt and Road Initiative, Yankee terrorism, will end as you will no longer be ab LE to pull your scams. Then you can whine about Trump all you like.

Canada
02-21-22, 15:03
Logical construct is a method to explain one's theory by combining established facts and various data in a straightforward, orderly way.

Anyone who doesn't think that OP's logical construct belongs a 10-year old child please explain why.Lies are not constructive. You continue to explain your theory with lies. That is only logical to a socialist.

Canada
02-21-22, 15:11
A week ago this story blew up all over Fake Fox News.

Each talking head on Fox reported it each hour. With increased lies each hour about this "News?" story.

One week later, numerous legitimate news sources have exposed this for what it was.

Hot Air!

Thanks for the misinformation AxeHole.You have it backwards. Fox is reporting the real news on what the investigation is revealing. Fake news is ignoring it. Not even mentioning it. The truth is coming out on Clinton's and democrats illegal activities. Once it is proven fake news will continue to ignore it just as they are doing with Biden incompetence. So far they have proven that the Russian Collusion was a hoax fabricated by Clinton and democrats. Now they have to expose the guilty parties. And they are.

PVMonger
02-21-22, 15:24
Unbelievable that the Wuhan virus killed millions in China and millions around the world and there are people dumb enough to blame Trump. But look at the post I am replying to. There are people this dumb. In documented facts Trump developed 3 vaccines and before our incompetent Biden took office. Biden has managed to let more people die in USA than Trump did. Maybe if Biden had listened to Trump the death toll would be much less. But there are people dumb enough to try to blame Trump for the Wuhan virus and now the Biden virus. Not only has Biden botched the Wuhan virus but his new Biden virus continues to kill. Facts are facts. Biden is killing people every day.You said "Trump developed 3 vaccines" and you are right. But you and most, if not all, supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy also say that "the vaccines are worthless".

So what you are really saying is that trump developed 3 worthless vaccines. Because you can't give him credit for developing vaccines and ignore the fact that you say the vaccines are worthless. Well, you can. And the fascists can. But everybody else knows better.

And to boot, you and trump believe that he is a jenius (mis-spelling intentional). We can both agree that he was a construction guy. We can also agree that creating a vaccine is "construction". How many construction contracts don't have some type of a "performance clause"? Especially contracts signed by a jenius? In case you don't know, I'll tell you. None. Zip. Zero. Zilch. That's how many.

So the final question is "How could such a jenius OK a construction contract without a performance clause?

PVMonger
02-21-22, 15:32
Right and people are not buying that shit that Trump is at fault anymore. Biden came in and all he did was be a bigger asshole about restrictions, and the deaths were worse under him.

Maybe we will have the Dems try to claim credit for the virus abating. LOL.

Really good story about the 2022 elections. It is amazing how many Dems are dropping out now that they cannot cheat.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/morale-low-house-democrats-retirement-surge-30-year-high

If you scroll to the bottom of the page here, https://www.predictit.org/markets/17/US-Elections, you get the odds on the 2022 elections. These are not polls but people betting and putting actual money to work.

Odds Republicans win house in 2022 are now 85%, 77% for the Senate, and 54% for president in 2024.So, what you're saying is that the same idiots who are giving money to the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy for things like hats, trumpy-bears, etc are also betting on political races.

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

PVMonger
02-21-22, 16:17
Unbelievable that the Wuhan virus killed millions in China and millions around the world and there are people dumb enough to blame Trump. But look at the post I am replying to. There are people this dumb. In documented facts Trump developed 3 vaccines and before our incompetent Biden took office. Biden has managed to let more people die in USA than Trump did. Maybe if Biden had listened to Trump the death toll would be much less. But there are people dumb enough to try to blame Trump for the Wuhan virus and now the Biden virus. Not only has Biden botched the Wuhan virus but his new Biden virus continues to kill. Facts are facts. Biden is killing people every day.The only thing that Biden failed to do was to "not convince the unconvincable" to get vaccinated.

Currently, vaccinated people in the US are dying at the rate of 0.4 per 100,000. The unvaccinated are dying at the rate of 9. 0 per 100,000. "Infectious disease doctors say it is still mainly unvaccinated people, most of whom are in their 30's and 40's with no underlying health issues, who are dying. " https://www.yahoo.com/gma/dying-covid-still-mainly-unvaccinated-090546286.html.

But sure, let's blame Biden for not being able to convince the 40% of Republicans who aren't vaccinated. Let's blame Biden for those same idiots who boo'ed their lord and savior, the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy, when he said to get vaccinated. Sure, let's blame Biden.

The people who are dying, the vast majority of whom are unvaccinated, are also Republicans. I don't know who came up with the "it is better to die in order to own the libs" strategy, but it is working. It just isn't working fast enough.

ScatManDoo
02-21-22, 16:37
Sweden stood for freedom when the elites in the rest of the world took an axe to civil liberties, and the cessation of those liberties did not do jack shit to contain the virus.Sweden failed to take reasonable steps (like their Nordic neighbors did) to slow the spread of Covid.

As a direct result of Sweden's recklessness with the health of its own population.

Sweden suffered many more deaths and illnesses from Covid, when compared to its Nordic neighbors.

PVMonger
02-21-22, 17:12
Yeah, Sweden is like in the bottom 25% of Europe when it comes to deaths and case numbers of Covid.

Thing is the Democratic like to compare Sweden to countries with lower rates. When you compare Sweden to the UK, Sweden did much better.

You know you are a Democratic when you say that is not a valid comparison because of demographics ETC because you know who have been comparing those rates throughout the pandemic? The people in the UK.

Sweden stood for freedom when the elites in the rest of the world took an axe to civil liberties, and the cessation of those liberties did not do jack shit to contain the virus.So between Sweden, the UK and the USA, which country has the highest deaths per capita? I'll bet you'll try to "spin" the answer. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/.

PVMonger
02-21-22, 17:34
You have it backwards. Fox is reporting the real news on what the investigation is revealing. Fake news is ignoring it. Not even mentioning it. The truth is coming out on Clinton's and democrats illegal activities. Once it is proven fake news will continue to ignore it just as they are doing with Biden incompetence. So far they have proven that the Russian Collusion was a hoax fabricated by Clinton and democrats. Now they have to expose the guilty parties. And they are.What is next from you? Left is really right? Up is really down?

Even Durham said that FUX "News" and the rest of the wingnut media had it all wrong. https://businessinsider.mx/durham-says-media-may-have-misinterpreted-previous-filing-2022-2/?r=US&IR=T.

Durham said this: "The special counsel John Durham said in a new court filing that "members of the media" may have "misinterpreted" claims that he made in a previous filing."

The remainder is word-for-word from the linked article.

"The acknowledgment in Thursday's filing came as former President Donald Trump and the right-wing media falsely claim that an earlier filing from Durham definitively proves that the Hillary Clinton campaign "illegally spied" on Trump in 2016 and 2017.

That filing related to a conflict-of-interest matter in Durham's ongoing case against the former Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann, who was charged last year with lying to the FBI. It did not allege that anyone associated with the Clinton campaign illegally spied on Trump or his White House.

But Trump and right-wing media outlets including Fox News, the New York Post, and Breitbart claimed that the details in the filing proved Trump was the victim of a Democratic-led conspiracy to illegally surveil him and fabricate a link to Russia.

Sussmann's lawyers cited some of those articles and accused Durham of purposely including misleading details in his filing, alleging that their inclusion was "plainly intended to politicize this case, inflame media coverage and taint the jury pool."

But Durham rejected that accusation, saying on Thursday that he's not at fault if anyone misunderstood the details in the filing.

"Defense counsel has presumed the Government's bad faith and asserts that the Special Counsel's Office intentionally sought to politicize this case, inflame media coverage, and taint the jury pool," Thursday's filing said. "That is simply not true."

"If third parties or members of the media have overstated, understated, or otherwise misinterpreted facts contained in the Government's Motion, that does not in any way undermine the valid reasons for the Government's inclusion of this information," it continued.

Sussmann was charged last year with lying to the FBI during a conversation with then FBI general counsel James Baker in 2016. Durham's indictment said that Sussmann "lied about the capacity in which he was providing" allegations to the FBI about what he claimed was a "secret communications channel" between the Trump Organization and Russia's Alfa Bank. The bureau has not uncovered sufficient evidence of such a connection.

The indictment said Sussmann lied to the FBI when he told Baker he wasn't working on behalf of any client. In fact, the indictment said, Sussmann was acting on behalf of the Clinton campaign, an unnamed tech executive, and an internet company.

Multiple media outlets have reported that the executive is Rodney Joffe, who works at the cybersecurity firm Neustar. According to court documents, Sussmann worked with Joffe to put together the materials and data that Sussmann ultimately provided to the FBI when conveying his concerns about Trump's ties to Russia.

Joffe has not been charged with a crime. But Durham's office said Joffe "exploited" his access to DNS traffic that his company had lawful access to from 2014-2017 as part of a government contract to monitor for cyberattacks and malware, and which was later provided to researchers at Georgia Tech. Investigators said Joffe tasked the researchers with going through the data to establish an "inference" and "narrative" tying then candidate Trump to Russia.

While the details in the filing raised questions about the ethics of their conduct, Durham did not accuse Sussmann or Joffe of spying or hacking. And cybersecurity experts also say the details do not support the claim that the Clinton campaign unlawfully surveilled Trump.

DNS services like the one offered by Neustar essentially "monitor your traffic in the event that you might be sent to a malicious site," Karim Hijazi, the CEO of the cybersecurity firm Prevailion and a former intelligence community contractor, told Insider earlier this week. "They'll stop the traffic, limit it, or redirect it to somewhere safe. So by definition, if you're using a service like Neustar's, your activity is being monitored because that's what you're buying."

Julian Sanchez, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute focusing on technology, privacy, and civil liberties, echoed that view.

"Neither Joffe nor the GA Tech researchers were being paid by the Clinton campaign," he wrote on Twitter. "Nobody 'hacked or 'intercepted anything. They were analyzing data they had lawful access to, in order to look for suspicious patterns that might suggest foreign cyberattacks."

But sure, let's call FUX "News" the real news. While you're at it, why not say that the earth is flat or the moon is made out of green cheese. All three assertions are equally true.

PVMonger
02-21-22, 18:03
"I learned that Barry had also been charged with casting his missing wife's mail-in ballot in the 2020 presidential election for Trump." https://news.yahoo.com/cousin-allegedly-killed-wife-cast-015824872.html.

Canada
02-21-22, 18:50
What is next from you? Left is really right? Up is really down?

Even Durham said that FUX "News" and the rest of the wingnut media had it all wrong. https://businessinsider.mx/durham-says-media-may-have-misinterpreted-previous-filing-2022-2/?r=US&IR=T.

Durham said this: "The special counsel John Durham said in a new court filing that "members of the media" may have "misinterpreted" claims that he made in a previous filing."

The remainder is word-for-word from the linked article.

"The acknowledgment in Thursday's filing came as former President Donald Trump and the right-wing media falsely claim that an earlier filing from Durham definitively proves that the Hillary Clinton campaign "illegally spied" on Trump in 2016 and 2017.

That filing related to a conflict-of-interest matter in Durham's ongoing case against the former Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann, who was charged last year with lying to the FBI. It did not allege that anyone associated with the Clinton campaign illegally spied on Trump or his White House.

But Trump and right-wing media outlets including Fox News, the New York Post, and Breitbart claimed that the details in the filing proved Trump was the victim of a Democratic-led conspiracy to illegally surveil him and fabricate a link to Russia..Nothing you can fabricate will change the truth. Durham will complete his investigation and the truth will be known. And hopefully the guilty parties will have to face the consequences.

Axel Heyst
02-21-22, 18:50
I am kind of kicking myself for not going to Sao Paulo when the pandemic was in full swing because it would have been cool to see that city without so much effing traffic. I did go to Medellin, Cancun, Bogota, and Mexico City when the traffic was down and had a great time. I fucked so much my dick almost fell off. There were so many hotties that were down on the luck that I got to "help" he he. Elvis, I was vaxed in early January, 2021 thanks to President Trump's operation warp-speed and the scientific breakthroughs from Pfizer & Moderna. At that point, January 2021, I was determined not to let Corona fuck up another year like it did 2020.

So, I took my 1st trip ever to Brazil in April & May 2021 "when the pandemic was in full swing" and both RJ & SP were in code red lock down. (RJ finally opened up during the last 8 days of my stay in Brazil). But despite the closure of all Boates and Termas (except for my last 8 days) I still had an amazing time. What saved the trip and made it memorable were all the amazing acompanhantes ie call girls or escorts I met, plus the afternoons I spent in SP clinicas and my final week at the RJ Termas. I don't know how they did it, but all the SP Clinicas remained open during the entire code red lockdown. In any case, ALL the girls I met were fucking amazing. I was simply blown away with their beauty and sexual passion. Brazilian girls really aimed to please.

So, I returned home a happy traveler and as 2021 progressed I fondly remembered all of my Brazilian girls while SE Asia remained closed. Thus I flew back down to RJ & SP in October / November 2021 for my 2nd visit. This time everything was open including the joints that had been closed on my previous trip IE the boates, the restaurants, and the termas. As a result I spent 90% of my time this 2nd trip at the boates and termas and cut way back on the call girls and clinicas. Man, did I have a good time at Scandallo and Bomboa in SP and 4 x4 and Solarium in RJ. I went to these bordellos so often that the folks (girls and staff) at these clubs began to recognize me and they treated me like a VIP. I had my favorite club girls, of course, whom I hooked up with outside of their places of business, but I also liked doing new club girls and so I often hung around these honky tonk bars and clubs for 3 or 4 hours a night and I enjoyed memorable 2-fers.

I also enjoyed eating out in great restaurants that had been closed during my 1st trip. Traffic had noticeably increased, but it was not much of a problem since I did not head out to the bordellos until 9 pm at the earliest. The girls were just as fucking amazing and passionate as on my 1st trip, but this time I knew what I was going to get, so their impact on my psyche was not as great. You are only a cherry boy one time. Ha Ha. Still, 2 girls in particular on the 2nd trip gave me some of the best sex I have had in 20 years and another girl had the finest a-hole I have ever had in my life. I am not kidding.

Anyway here we are, it's February 2022 and most rational people realize that lockdowns, mandates, and masks did not work. The more rational approach would have been to isolate and protect the vulnerable and to let the rest of us go about our lives unimpeded. Live and learn, hopefully, or maybe not. Looking at recent events in Canada or the way the Thai Gov't is still playing games with their entry requirements and shutdowns does not give one much reason for optimism about future Government policy for the next pandemic. But I have no desire to play along with these idiots.

I really miss a few of my favorite Thai girls who I have remained in touch with throughout our forced separation. Hopefully I will see them again in the not too distant future. Sadly, however, I have lost connections with a couple of great Filipinas and an outstanding Burmese girl. Oh well, that's life under the God damn Chinese pandemic, but in 45 days I will be heading back down to Brazil for trip #3. I know it is going to be a memorable 7 weeks. I have not made any plans for October or November 2022, but it has been over 20 years since I was in Medellin & Bogota. I realize a lot has changed, but I liked both of those cities back in the day. Maybe I will go to Colombia in the fall or Brazil #4 or maybe Thailand if all quarantine and in-country Covid testing is abolished.

Stay safe, rock on, let's go Brandon.

A. H.

ScatManDoo
02-21-22, 18:53
More people died with Covid under Biden than Trump.The correct people are dying in much greater numbers now under President Biden due to mutual stupidity of the right wing. Hard to beat good results like that, certainly no need to.


you have to be blind to think 2020 was fair. After all the recounts and audits in close states, you need to be plain-ass stupid to believe the Big Lie that Joe Biden did not win the 2020 presidential election.

Let's keep talking about the Big Lie and blanket pardons for violent cop beaters and bring the GOP down. HaHaHaHaHa.


The Democratic took judges not getting involved as proof they won in 2020 when in fact the judges did not want an entire election being overturned dumped on them.The judges largely laughed at lame TrumpShit attorneys for their lack of evidence.


We also know the cheating mostly took place in African American neighborhoodsThat is "Known" only in your racist scrambled head. No evidence has been presented that support this assertion.

Canada
02-21-22, 18:54
The only thing that Biden failed to do was to "not convince the unconvincable" to get vaccinated.

Currently, vaccinated people in the US are dying at the rate of 0.4 per 100,000. The unvaccinated are dying at the rate of 9. 0 per 100,000. "Infectious disease doctors say it is still mainly unvaccinated people, most of whom are in their 30's and 40's with no underlying health issues, who are dying. " https://www.yahoo.com/gma/dying-covid-still-mainly-unvaccinated-090546286.html.

But sure, let's blame Biden for not being able to convince the 40% of Republicans who aren't vaccinated. Let's blame Biden for those same idiots who boo'ed their lord and savior, the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy, when he said to get vaccinated. Sure, let's blame Biden.

The people who are dying, the vast majority of whom are unvaccinated, are also Republicans. I don't know who came up with the "it is better to die in order to own the libs" strategy, but it is working. It just isn't working fast enough.Biden killed more people with 70% vaccinated than died under Trump presidency when zero percent were vaccinated. Why does it matter if 30% aren't vaccinated because Biden is still killing far more people. Vaccinations are slowing Biden deaths.

Canada
02-21-22, 18:56
You said "Trump developed 3 vaccines" and you are right. But you and most, if not all, supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy also say that "the vaccines are worthless".

So what you are really saying is that trump developed 3 worthless vaccines. Because you can't give him credit for developing vaccines and ignore the fact that you say the vaccines are worthless. Well, you can. And the fascists can. But everybody else knows better.

And to boot, you and trump believe that he is a jenius (mis-spelling intentional). We can both agree that he was a construction guy. We can also agree that creating a vaccine is "construction". How many construction contracts don't have some type of a "performance clause"? Especially contracts signed by a jenius? In case you don't know, I'll tell you. None. Zip. Zero. Zilch. That's how many.

So the final question is "How could such a jenius OK a construction contract without a performance clause?You need to seek professional help. You are making as much sense as a senile Biden with dementia. Seriously you need help!

PVMonger
02-21-22, 20:27
Nothing you can fabricate will change the truth. Durham will complete his investigation and the truth will be known. And hopefully the guilty parties will have to face the consequences.Nothing I can fabricate?

The link I posted was not something I wrote. Just because you don't agree with the link doesn't mean that I wrote the article.

See, that's your problem. You call white black. You call up down. Even Durham said that rightwingnut media was full of it. And what do you do? You say that Durham didn't really say what he said. No wonder wingers voted for the Orange Buffoon.

PVMonger
02-21-22, 20:34
You need to seek professional help. You are making as much sense as a senile Biden with dementia. Seriously you need help!Why not simply answer the questions? But you can't. Or won't.

Did trump develop three COVID vaccines?

Do most trump supporters say that the vaccines are worthless?

Do you agree that if "A=b" and if "b=C", then "A=C"?

If the answer to all three questions is yes, then trump developed three worthless COVID vaccines.

Case closed. Just because fascists are ignorant doesn't mean that the rest of the world is ignorant.

MarquisdeSade1
02-21-22, 20:46
Crackpots love one-liners.https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/national/coronavirus/johns-hopkins-university-study-finds-lockdowns-only-reduced-covid-deaths-by-0-2?fbclid=IwAR3WTI4_2izTGQimKWj5ufJ20JDTwcBBpAC_w0zVSjGASSjSH1S4uleC5YM

Xpartan
02-21-22, 21:13
Canada,

I have put these guys on ignore. It's really funny how the most obnoxious crackpots who routinely defy logic and common sense are also the most thin-skinned.

Xpartan
02-21-22, 21:25
Of course, you can't because you have nothing to offer. You compare Sweden to the other Nordic states but refuse to compare it to other EU states or important states like Iran that have a different Covid distribution. That is because you have a hard on for Trump.

If Russia, China and Germany prevail with Nordstream 2 and with the Belt and Road Initiative, Yankee terrorism, will end as you will no longer be ab LE to pull your scams. Then you can whine about Trump all you like.Oh I see where you got confused.

See, I compare Sweden to other Scandinavian countries with similar history, origins, even weather and population sparsity. Just like you would compare apples to apples rather than compare apples to beets or truffles. The truth is the Sweden's neighbors who rejected the Sweden's approach have done much better in terms of deaths and infections. Comparing Sweden to countries with vastly different conditions like UK or even USA (which I did in passing and it was wrong) would not be accurate, and that's the only point of criticism I'm willing to take.

And of course you had to close your pitiful argument with another dumb, mindless, irrelevant rant. Figures.

PVMonger
02-22-22, 00:02
Biden killed more people with 70% vaccinated than died under Trump presidency when zero percent were vaccinated. Why does it matter if 30% aren't vaccinated because Biden is still killing far more people. Vaccinations are slowing Biden deaths.Since lockdowns were part and parcel of the administration of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy and if more people died under Biden than under trump, that means that lockdowns worked, right? But wait, the fascists said that lockdowns didn't work.

I am having trouble keeping all of your lies straight.

Golfinho
02-22-22, 03:19
Did trump develop three COVID vaccines?
If the answer to all three questions is yes, then trump developed three worthless COVID vaccines..These vaccines were in the can and ready to go well before Trumptime. Big Pharma was just waiting for the moment to cash in, and when opportunity knocked they were all over it, with their media scaremongering shills leading the charge. Brought to you by Pfizer. It was actually a perfect storm for the drug pushers as they got government funding, immunity from liability, plus the Democrat Party hacks were all aboard as the covid could be used to torpedo Trump's reelection.

Oh, and do the vaccines work? Let's get everyone vaxxed, I. E. Eliminate the control group first. Then, Pfizer can get everyone signed up like a subscription service for their semi-annual -- Ka-Ching! -- booster.

EihTooms
02-22-22, 04:43
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/national/coronavirus/johns-hopkins-university-study-finds-lockdowns-only-reduced-covid-deaths-by-0-2?fbclid=IwAR3WTI4_2izTGQimKWj5ufJ20JDTwcBBpAC_w0zVSjGASSjSH1S4uleC5YMTo be clear, those 2 "researchers" just happened to enroll at Johns Hopkins University at some point. The headline suggests it was a research study produced and endorsed by the highly regarded university.

Nope.

In fact, the report had to include that the university itself had nothing to do with it:


On their website, Johns Hopkins says the views expressed in the report are those of the authors and not necessarily the university.

EihTooms
02-22-22, 05:25
Biden killed more people with 70% vaccinated than died under Trump presidency when zero percent were vaccinated. Why does it matter if 30% aren't vaccinated because Biden is still killing far more people. Vaccinations are slowing Biden deaths.Trump's disastrous decisions re Trump's Pandemic wiped out millions of jobs, businesses and shut down the country for at least a year while few Americans were going to jobs, driving anywhere, doing anything, spending any money.

That is the primary cause of Trump's Pandemic Supply Chain Destruction Inflation today during Biden's roaring economic recovery.

Thanks to Biden's brilliantly effective distribution of the vaccines that Trump spent that critical year discouraging anyone from inventing and taking, the country is open for business some 10-20 times more than it was under Trump.

That means many, many, many more people, both vaccinated and unvaccinated, are out on the streets, in offices, at schools, engaging, meeting, shopping, buying, gathering, partying, dining out, driving to jobs and for pleasure under Biden than under Trump.

Which means there are also many, many, many more people exposed to and transmitting Trump's Pandemic Virus today under Biden's open society than there were under Trump's closures and lockdowns. Even as those who are vaccinated thanks to Biden are many times less likely to die from it.

An analogy would be 2,000 people per day dying from traffic accidents while only 1 million of them are out there driving on little old Main Street, as under Trump, is a far worse result than if 3,000 people per day are dying from traffic accidents while 20 million of them are driving on the Super Highway, as under Biden.

With the added bonus being those simply wearing a seatbelt provided by Biden accounts for only 2-3 of those 3,000 traffic accident deaths per day.

See how that works?

Gino02
02-22-22, 05:32
Since lockdowns were part and parcel of the administration of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy and if more people died under Biden than under trump, that means that lockdowns worked, right? But wait, the fascists said that lockdowns didn't work.

I am having trouble keeping all of your lies straight.Dude your arguments are in circle, might as well accept that Biden is overall worse POTUS than Trump, like many are now accepting (refer: MSM article https://news.yahoo.com/why-biden-now-less-popular-100037176.html, I could refer to a much more informative Fox news or Newsmax or OAN article but people like you would reject it immediately without trying to find the facts). Fact is both Trump and Biden didn't have much clue in 2020 about how to deal with Covid, but Trump at least didn't mandate shit curbing citizens freedom. Good news is that a lot of liberals and a lot more independents with some brains are now accepting that voting for Biden was a mistake. Hope you will also wake up soon. Amen.

Elvis 2008
02-22-22, 05:35
You need to seek professional help. You are making as much sense as a senile Biden with dementia. Seriously you need help!Maybe you all can stop quoting the Dems so I do not have to read them. LOL. You are right Canada. PVMonger is demented. He is engaging in mental masturbation with his Covid posts.

He thinks his one term, twice impeached thing gets us. In reality, it pisses us off. It shows you how much these DDs hate democracy and how much they love the swamp. Many of us feel Trump is one term because the Dems cheated their asses off, and all the impeachments were utter bullshit. There is no point in arguing it.

These morons elected someone in 2020 who was not Trump and did so just out of spite. Did anyone want Biden? He did not win the Democratic nomination; it was handed to him. The Dems won in 2020 but are going to get slaughtered in 2022 and 2024. The Bill Maher episode showed that three Dems could not even get along or agree on anything. It turns out "Trump sucks" is not a viable or productive policy.

And after we have seen that the swamp has no respect for Democracy, Trump is the only guy I can see who can clean it up and even with him, I know I will be underwhelmed.

The pandemic showed us the elites want to end democracy. In country after country, legislatures and the people were bypassed. Sweden resisted this and was pummeled in the press. Senile Joe, he is moving kind of slow, just extended his emergency powers. The climatic part now is if he will ever give them up. The nightmare would be if he died and Kamala got in with these powers. That is fucking scary.

Trump also got hit unfairly with the virus. A lot of people were critical of how he handled it. Biden ran on that (I will shut down the virus not the country), and he failed at both. In the end, Biden's results on the virus were worse than Trump's, and his plan was just more stupid hassling of people and blaming Republicans for not getting vaxxed. When you blame Republicans for Covid, you know you have lost.

The most objective opinion on the vaccines has been delivered by Wall Street, and they have taken Moderna's share price down by 2/3. This is a video from a Wall street guy free of politics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAr2CkGPJ8M.

To me, the most amazing thing about the Biden presidency was that poll where those who hate Biden and those who love could not come up with one thing he did wrong or one thing he did right. He is literally the nothing president.

Gino02
02-22-22, 05:39
Biden at his (or should we say "it's") best!

https://news.yahoo.com/why-biden-now-less-popular-100037176.html

This is from USA Today / Yahoo. I could refer some more informative Fox news, OAN or Newsmax article / video, but libtards will say that's biased even without trying to learn the facts. That said, good news is that liberals with some brains left, and a lot of independents with learning and thinking capacity are now accepting that voting for Biden was a mistake, much worse than avoiding the mean tweets.

EihTooms
02-22-22, 05:53
These vaccines were in the can and ready to go well before Trumptime. Big Pharma was just waiting for the moment to cash in, and when opportunity knocked they were all over it, with their media scaremongering shills leading the charge. Brought to you by Pfizer. It was actually a perfect storm for the drug pushers as they got government funding, immunity from liability, plus the Democrat Party hacks were all aboard as the covid could be used to torpedo Trump's reelection.

Oh, and do the vaccines work? Let's get everyone vaxxed, I. E. Eliminate the control group first. Then, Pfizer can get everyone signed up like a subscription service for their semi-annual -- Ka-Ching! -- booster.Yes, it is true that vaccines for coronavirus had been researched, tested and were waiting for the need to arise in order for manufacturers to swing into action, preparedness for the inevitable, going back to the Obama years.

In fact, the whole rapid emergency vaccine development apparatus that Trump merely branded a cute and somewhat stupid name after his stock market crash forced him to temporarily abandon his mass murdering "it's a Hoax and will go away without a vaccine"! Self-serving con was entirely conceived and set up by Barack Obama and the Obama-Biden administration:

Obama's science advisors outline plan for faster pandemic vaccine | CIDRAP August 19, 2010

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2010/08/obamas-science-advisors-outline-plan-faster-pandemic-vaccine

Trump had even less to do with that than Reagan had with reversing the direction of inflation beginning in March 1980. LOL.

MarquisdeSade1
02-22-22, 06:10
To be clear, those 2 "researchers" just happened to enroll at Johns Hopkins University at some point. The headline suggests it was a research study produced and endorsed by the highly regarded university.

Nope.

In fact, the report had to include that the university itself had nothing to do with it.

You know just their researchers but not their whoors in the Admin office that are all about $$.

"The report had to include", and also because of the anti free speech censors at FB and google?

Why doesn't the university produce data disputing it instead? LMAO.

Elvis 2008
02-22-22, 06:36
Elvis, I was vaxed in early January, 2021 thanks to President Trump's operation warp-speed and the scientific breakthroughs from Pfizer & Moderna. At that point, January 2021, I was determined not to let Corona fuck up another year like it did 2020.I was the same way. The only pause I really took was in like January 2021. At the time, there were like 300,000 cases. Really one dose of the vaccine is enough and antibodies kick in after 11 days. That waiting period was really the only time the pandemic put my life on hold.


I don't know how they did it, but all the SP Clinicas remained open during the entire code red lockdown. In any case, ALL the girls I met were fucking amazing. I was simply blown away with their beauty and sexual passion. Brazilian girls really aimed to please.When it comes to sex and soccer, it is like Brazilians are at a different level. Every BJ I had there was amazing. BJs always feel good, but with these women, I would moan involuntarily. I was like, "Do they teach women this in high school?


So, I returned home a happy traveler and as 2021 progressed I fondly remembered all of my Brazilian girls while SE Asia remained closed. Thus I flew back down to RJ & SP in October / November 2021 for my 2nd visit. This time everything was open including the joints that had been closed on my previous trip IE the boates, the restaurants, and the termas. As a result I spent 90% of my time this 2nd trip at the boates and termas and cut way back on the call girls and clinicas. Man, did I have a good time at Scandallo and Bomboa in SP and 4 x4 and Solarium in RJ. I went to these bordellos so often that the folks (girls and staff) at these clubs began to recognize me and they treated me like a VIP.You are a man after my own heart.


I also enjoyed eating out in great restaurants that had been closed during my 1st trip. Traffic had noticeably increased, but it was not much of a problem since I did not head out to the bordellos until 9 pm at the earliest. The girls were just as fucking amazing and passionate as on my 1st trip, but this time I knew what I was going to get, so their impact on my psyche was not as great. You are only a cherry boy one time. Ha Ha. Still, 2 girls in particular on the 2nd trip gave me some of the best sex I have had in 20 years and another girl had the finest a-hole I have ever had in my life. I am not kidding.I know you are not. The women there love sex and are great at it. The knock on Brazilian women is they cheat. It is nothing for them to kiss you, praise you, and then be off kissing another guy in 5 minutes.


Anyway here we are, it's February 2022 and most rational people realize that lockdowns, mandates, and masks did not work. The more rational approach would have been to isolate and protect the vulnerable and to let the rest of us go about our lives unimpeded. Live and learn, hopefully, or maybe not. Looking at recent events in Canada or the way the Thai Gov't is still playing games with their entry requirements and shutdowns does not give one much reason for optimism about future Government policy for the next pandemic. But I have no desire to play along with these idiots.Totally agree. The other side of the coin is that you can make lemonade out of the lemons like you did. AH, it worked out well for me in the end. I focused on Colombia and getting deeper connections there. Brazil was just too far to have a sugar baby in. It is a great place for a sex vacation, but I was kind of done with that.

It is funny, AH. The guys who only see hos get offended when I say sugar baby sex is way better than ho sex. Thing is all the women who have had sugar babies agree. That is why I am kicking myself about Brazil. I cannot imagine what sugar baby sex would have been like there.

In my case, I met a government worker in Colombia who was furloughed with Covid who IMO is a 10 in and out of bed. Without Covid, I might not have met her. We are exclusive now, something I thought I would never say again in my life.


I really miss a few of my favorite Thai girls who I have remained in touch with throughout our forced separation. Hopefully I will see them again in the not too distant future. Sadly, however, I have lost connections with a couple of great Filipinas and an outstanding Burmese girl.I have not investigated that part of the world all that much. My understanding is that the Asian women make themselves into sugar baby or GF types focused on the long term. The Latins do not have that reputation, but my gal has been like that since day one. I like the Filipinas but the Thais and many Asian women just did not turn me on at all. I have been to Thailand only once and that was when I was really married.


Oh well, that's life under the God damn Chinese pandemic, but in 45 days I will be heading back down to Brazil for trip #3. I know it is going to be a memorable 7 weeks. I have not made any plans for October or November 2022, but it has been over 20 years since I was in Medellin & Bogota. I realize a lot has changed, but I liked both of those cities back in the day. Maybe I will go to Colombia in the fall or Brazil #4 or maybe Thailand if all quarantine and in-country Covid testing is abolished.Kazeu, an ISG member here, and I met in Bogota and we became friends. I was there for a short stay and had a bigger budget than he did as I was on vaca. Still, he got on SA / seeking and found himself a GF like I did. The response rate for SA was unreal and no shit, I actually did go out with three beauty queen winners there. He and I walked Santa Fe many times, and he said that of all the times he went, he never saw higher than an 8. The quantity of women in Santa Fe and price there are amazing, the quality not so much.

As for the P4P, Colombia is no Brazil. I actually think Mexico is better than Colombia for P4 P. Unlike in Mexico and Brazil, the 10's in Colombia are hidden. Still, Colombia has more 10's IMO than any Latin country save Brazil.

I was like the first guy who really did SA / seeking in Colombia and posted it here. I actually argued with guys about the sugar baby approach and now it is not controversial.

What I wonder about is using SA / seeking in Brazil. I have not seen anyone do it yet, and the hit rate when I was online was unreal as was the beauty of the women. I was taking to a woman who was stunning who was an investment banker. And I also was talking to women who were hot but were engineers and lawyers. I just wonder what might have been.

My other regret was not checking out the medium size cities in Brazil. I have always liked women who were not the big city types. My gal is from Cartagena and she told me going to Bogota was culture shock.

The women in Brazil are a different breed. Maybe you could make a Scandallo girl into a sugar baby. When I was there, I took out a boate girl who had a car and drove me around. Being a ho there does not carry the shame like it does here in the sex prison.


Stay safe, rock on, let's go Brandon..Absolutely man. You know how you can now tell a Democrat from a Republican? Their squinting eyes. Democrats have spent so much time in the basement during the pandemic, they are still not used to the light.

Xpartan
02-22-22, 08:33
To be clear, those 2 "researchers" just happened to enroll at Johns Hopkins University at some point. The headline suggests it was a research study produced and endorsed by the highly regarded university.

Nope.

In fact, the report had to include that the university itself had nothing to do with it:It's even worse. Two out of the three authors have nothing to do with Hopkins. Like nothing at all. Talk about fake news.

And they're economists, not medical professionals.

And it's a working paper. Meaning not peer-reviewed.

And one third of the "studies" they analyzed were working papers as well.


Of the 34 “studies” included in the review, 12 of them were actually working papers. In fact, 14 of the “studies” were actually from economists with only one being from epidemiologists. This is odd since most of the key NPI research studies have been conducted by epidemiologists, medical researchers, and other public health experts. To qualify as a meta-analysis, a study needs to fulfill established criteria, which includes demonstrating that you’ve included all of the studies that have been published. Without providing clear evidence that you have done so, instead of “A Literature Review and Meta-Analysis of the Effects of Lockdowns on Covid-19 Mortality,” would a better title of this working paper have been “Stuff that We Selected to Support Our Point of View?”https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2022/02/06/did-so-called-johns-hopkins-study-really-show-lockdowns-were-ineffective-against-covid-19/?sh=7890261b1225

Gee, how do these people read? And do they really?

Next.

Xpartan
02-22-22, 08:54
These vaccines were in the can and ready to go well before Trumptime. Big Pharma was just waiting for the moment to cash in, and when opportunity knocked they were all over it, with their media scaremongering shills leading the charge. Brought to you by Pfizer. It was actually a perfect storm for the drug pushers as they got government funding, immunity from liability, plus the Democrat Party hacks were all aboard as the covid could be used to torpedo Trump's reelection.

Oh, and do the vaccines work? Let's get everyone vaxxed, I. E. Eliminate the control group first. Then, Pfizer can get everyone signed up like a subscription service for their semi-annual -- Ka-Ching! -- booster.That was brilliant, just brilliant!

You nailed them!

Big fucking Pharma just waited for one-in-a-hundred-years pandemic, and then ka-ching, just like you said.

What a great business model! And you've figured that out all by yourself. Kudos!

So first, build something to deal with a catastrophe. Then all you have to do is just wait for the said catastrophe to occur. And ka-ching!

Blows my mind! You should be on TED. Like totally.

PedroMorales
02-22-22, 11:07
They are talking about data, quantitative data. So the heavy hitters would be those with a background in mathematical physics, many of whom would be in economics / finance as that is where the money. And a lot of data. Is.

Proper peer reviewed articles take years to get published and that is often done now just for the record. They have this new fangled thing called the Internet. Academic journals are actually a scam as they have academic libraries by the balls (bet you know what they are). That is where mega spy Robert Maxwell made his first fortune. Like you and yours, Maxwell was a bully. And an ignoramus.


It's even worse. Two out of the three authors have nothing to do with Hopkins. Like nothing at all. Talk about fake news.

And they're economists, not medical professionals.

And it's a working paper. Meaning not peer-reviewed.

And one third of the "studies" they analyzed were working papers as well.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2022/02/06/did-so-called-johns-hopkins-study-really-show-lockdowns-were-ineffective-against-covid-19/?sh=7890261b1225..

EihTooms
02-22-22, 13:47
That was brilliant, just brilliant!

You nailed them!

Big fucking Pharma just waited for one-in-a-hundred-years pandemic, and then ka-ching, just like you said.

What a great business model! And you've figured that out all by yourself. Kudos!

So first, build something to deal with a catastrophe. Then all you have to do is just wait for the said catastrophe to occur. And ka-ching!

Blows my mind! You should be on TED. Like totally.However, to add to my previous post substantiation that, guess what, the rapid emergency vaccine production apparatus conceived and promoted by the Obama-Biden Administration at least a decade before Trump's disastrous decisions, cowardice and lies plunged the world into Trump's Pandemic, every variant that followed and all of the consequent deaths, economic destruction, massive job losses, international supply chain collapse and inflation is in fact what Trump simply "branded" and stupidly named Project Warp Speed and he otherwise had absolutely nothing to do with it, there is this:

Guess what, it was also the Obama-Biden Administration that promoted and funded the effective coronavirus vaccine research studies that so well positioned companies like Moderna to quickly produce the successful vaccines that were required to be invented and mass produced at emergency speed due to Trump's disastrous decisions, cowardice and lies creating Trump's Pandemic to begin with and, most disastrously, that he spent nearly that first critical year insisting no one needed to bother inventing or taking a vaccine.

Ivanka Trump Praises Her Dad for Vaccine Research Started Under Obama

https://www.motherjones.com/coronavirus-updates/2020/11/ivanka-trump-moderna-vaccine-trump/


In short, Trump didnt swoop in to launch the Moderna-NIH COVID vaccine partnership. Rather, his administration piggybacked on an ongoing collaboration whose initial agreements were signed in, checking the fine print, November 2015. Maybe Ivanka should have added, Thanks, Obama.Yeah, it's one thing when dipshit Ivanka gets it wrong in a desperate but failed attempt to find something positive for which to praise her daddy in the midst of still more Americans dying from his Pandemic.

But, as far as we know, Trump is not the daddy of anyone here.

So you Trump cultists can stop thanking Trump for anything regarding the vaccines for Trump's Pandemic other than that it was his disastrous decisions, cowardice and lies that made your needing to get vaccinated for it in one damn hurry in the first place and start thanking Obama, Biden and their administrations for the advanced research and invention of the vaccine as well as the brilliantly successful distribution and administering of the vaccines when called upon.

EatALotOpus
02-22-22, 13:58
Elvis, I was vaxed in early January, 2021 thanks to President Trump's operation warp-speed and the scientific breakthroughs from Pfizer & Moderna. At that point, January 2021, I was determined not to let Corona fuck up another year like it did 2020.

Glad you're enjoying the hobby!

Let me start by saying that at the start of this Fauchidemic I was in Asia and on the last EVA aircraft out of Vietnam. Right after that I participated in a super-spreader rally without a mask and resided in one of the most infected states in the US wearing a mask only when entering stores. Still breathing!

Like you, I too took the jab in early 2021 hoping that one shot and everything will soon go back to normal. Didn't work that way as we all know. The goal post kept getting further and further away on the whim of people with Napoleonic Syndrome and political ambitions all in the name of science. Then boosters, then Pharma CEO's peddling their products and how dare you questioning them, then second boosters.

No one dares questioning the actual death count. When asked CDC recently said those numbers take days to get updated. No numbers yet. No one questions why you cannot sue Big Pharma if anything goes wrong. No one questions why details will not be released for 95 years. If the vaccine is so "SAFE" why not release it? A close relative developed difficulty in breathing after taking the booster and not been able to shake it off since.

All that have dissuaded me to take the next step and mistrust the Government and anyone involved in this conundrum. Thankfully as SE Asia opens up only require proof of Vaccination for now and from what I read some South American countries only need PCR test 72 hrs prior.

Indeed Let's Go Brandon!

PVMonger
02-22-22, 16:05
Maybe you all can stop quoting the Dems so I do not have to read them. LOL. You are right Canada. PVMonger is demented. He is engaging in mental masturbation with his Covid posts.

He thinks his one term, twice impeached thing gets us. In reality, it pisses us off. It shows you how much these DDs hate democracy and how much they love the swamp. Many of us feel Trump is one term because the Dems cheated their asses off, and all the impeachments were utter bullshit. There is no point in arguing it.

These morons elected someone in 2020 who was not Trump and did so just out of spite. Did anyone want Biden? He did not win the Democratic nomination; it was handed to him. The Dems won in 2020 but are going to get slaughtered in 2022 and 2024. The Bill Maher episode showed that three Dems could not even get along or agree on anything. It turns out "Trump sucks" is not a viable or productive policy.

And after we have seen that the swamp has no respect for Democracy, Trump is the only guy I can see who can clean it up and even with him, I know I will be underwhelmed..I'm glad that my "one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy" moniker pisses you off. It was meant to. The fact that you are pissed off means that the term is true. The Mango Mussolini was one term. He was impeached twice. He was a fake president.

The fact that you feel that the election was stolen is hilarious. The fascist Republican party will go to any lengths to come up with reasons why. The judges. Chinese thermostats. The voting machines. Fake ballots. You name it. Each idea is more looney than the last but you keep doing it. What it all boils down to is "we have the proof but the dog ate it. " It would be laughable if it weren't so sad.

And, of course, you say that Democrats blame Trump for COVID. We don't. What we blame him for is for covering it up. We blame him for lying about it. We blame him for thinking more about his re-election than the well-being of the American people. That's what we blame him for. I remember the Rose Garden event sometime in mid-March, 2020. The Orange Buffoon said that 1,700 Google engineers were working on an application that would show where you could get a test. There was even a flow chart. The next day Google said that it was all news to them. But, sure, keep up with the fantasy that the Orange Fruitcake never lied about anything and that we blame him for COVID.

And sure, let's lie and portray Moderna's vaccine as the reason their stock is down and not the fact that Moderna's stock is down because of Omicron.

One day you fascists will come to realize that telling the truth is better than lying. But I won't hold my breath.

Cali Guy
02-22-22, 16:12
Maybe you all can stop quoting the Dems so I do not have to read them. LOL. You are right Canada. PVMonger is demented. He is engaging in mental masturbation with his Covid posts.

He thinks his one term, twice impeached thing gets us. In reality, it pisses us off. It shows you how much these DDs hate democracy and how much they love the swamp. Many of us feel Trump is one term because the Dems cheated their asses off, and all the impeachments were utter bullshit. There is no point in arguing it.

These morons elected someone in 2020 who was not Trump and did so just out of spite. Did anyone want Biden? He did not win the Democratic nomination; it was handed to him. The Dems won in 2020 but are going to get slaughtered in 2022 and 2024. The Bill Maher episode showed that three Dems could not even get along or agree on anything. It turns out "Trump sucks" is not a viable or productive policy.

And after we have seen that the swamp has no respect for Democracy, Trump is the only guy I can see who can clean it up and even with him, I know I will be underwhelmed.

The pandemic showed us the elites want to end democracy. In country after country, legislatures and the people were bypassed. Sweden resisted this and was pummeled in the press. Senile Joe, he is moving kind of slow, just extended his emergency powers. The climatic part now is if he will ever give them up. The nightmare would be if he died and Kamala got in with these powers. That is fucking scary..Great post. You hit all the facts. I totally agree with you.

Cali Guy
02-22-22, 16:19
Trump's disastrous decisions re Trump's Pandemic wiped out millions of jobs, businesses and shut down the country for at least a year while few Americans were going to jobs, driving anywhere, doing anything, spending any money.

That is the primary cause of Trump's Pandemic Supply Chain Destruction Inflation today during Biden's roaring economic recovery.

Thanks to Biden's brilliantly effective distribution of the vaccines that Trump spent that critical year discouraging anyone from inventing and taking, the country is open for business some 10-20 times more than it was under Trump.

That means many, many, many more people, both vaccinated and unvaccinated, are out on the streets, in offices, at schools, engaging, meeting, shopping, buying, gathering, partying, dining out, driving to jobs and for pleasure under Biden than under Trump.

Which means there are also many, many, many more people exposed to and transmitting Trump's Pandemic Virus today under Biden's open society than there were under Trump's closures and lockdowns. Even as those who are vaccinated thanks to Biden are many times less likely to die from it.Trump decisions were the same as every other leader in the world. And he even stopped the Chinese from continuing to infect USA by banning flights from China against the democrats wishes who called it racist. Yes people died in USA just as they did in every other country in the world. But now we have Biden who campaigned on his plan to end the virus by June and here we are 8 months later and he is still killing more Americans than Trump. Incompetence? Probably. When you do nothing it is a gamble. Just remember as bad as you say Trump was at handling the Chinese virus Biden has been much worse. So every time you criticize Trump it makes Biden look even worse. Congratulations.

EatALotOpus
02-22-22, 16:55
We blame him for thinking more about his re-election than the well-being of the American people. Under Trump I was not muzzled up whenever I went to the store or anywhere else. Still am now. I moved around free without worrying about neighborhood takeovers or getting suckered punched.

My groceries then cost much less that it cost now which they blame on the supply chain and have not done anything about for the last year. Yes I heard the argument about the "It's the meat packers fault" and to debunk it, the same four major meat packers that exist now were the same four supplying us when Trump was president.

I'm Done.

Keep on mongering!

Canada
02-22-22, 17:26
I'm glad that my "one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy" moniker pisses you off. It was meant to. The fact that you are pissed off means that the term is true. The Mango Mussolini was one term. He was impeached twice. He was a fake president.

The fact that you feel that the election was stolen is hilarious. The fascist Republican party will go to any lengths to come up with reasons why. The judges. Chinese thermostats. The voting machines. Fake ballots. You name it. Each idea is more looney than the last but you keep doing it. What it all boils down to is "we have the proof but the dog ate it. " It would be laughable if it weren't so sad.

And, of course, you say that Democrats blame Trump for COVID. We don't. What we blame him for is for covering it up. We blame him for lying about it. We blame him for thinking more about his re-election than the well-being of the American people. That's what we blame him for. I remember the Rose Garden event sometime in mid-March, 2020. The Orange Buffoon said that 1,700 Google engineers were working on an application that would show where you could get a test. There was even a flow chart. The next day Google said that it was all news to them. But, sure, keep up with the fantasy that the Orange Fruitcake never lied about anything and that we blame him for COVID.The only lying that I saw was the democrats telling us it didn't come from China.

Canada
02-22-22, 17:39
Biden has given Russia free rein to invade Ukraine. Just like Obama and Biden drawing a line in the sand in the Obama presidency and then doing nothing is exactly what Biden is doing with Putin. Claiming he will put sanctions on Russia if they invade. Germany gas already stopped the Russia pipeline that Biden took Trump sanctions off and other European countries are putting sanctions on Russia before invasion but Biden does nothing but make idle threats that Putin knows he won't follow through on. A weak USA president is ideal for dictators like Putin. Iran and North Korea will be next to take advantage of Biden. Didn't happen under Trump presidency and wouldn't happen now if we actually had a president with balls.

Canada
02-22-22, 17:41
Under Trump I was not muzzled up whenever I went to the store or anywhere else. Still am now. I moved around free without worrying about neighborhood takeovers or getting suckered punched.

My groceries then cost much less that it cost now which they blame on the supply chain and have not done anything about for the last year. Yes I heard the argument about the "It's the meat packers fault" and to debunk it, the same four major meat packers that exist now were the same four supplying us when Trump was president.

I'm Done.

Keep on mongering!Inflation is only going to get worse with Biden doing nothing to stop Russia from invading Ukraine. Expect inflation to go up another 50% with this incompetent president.

MarquisdeSade1
02-22-22, 17:48
You need to seek professional help. You are making as much sense as a senile Biden with dementia. Seriously you need help!https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/bloomberg-san-francisco-school-board-midterms/2022/02/22/id/1057915/

Golfinho
02-22-22, 19:06
However, to add to my previous post substantiation that, guess what, the rapid emergency vaccine production apparatus conceived and promoted by the Obama-Biden Administration at least a decade before Trump's disastrous decisions, cowardice and lies plunged the world into Trump's Pandemic, every variant that followed and all of the consequent deaths, economic destruction, massive job losses, international supply chain collapse and inflation is in fact what Trump simply "branded" and stupidly named Project Warp Speed and he otherwise had absolutely nothing to do with it, there is this:

Guess what, it was also the Obama-Biden Administration that promoted and funded the effective coronavirus vaccine research studies that so well positioned companies like Moderna to quickly produce the successful vaccines that were required to be invented and mass produced at emergency speed due to Trump's disastrous decisions, cowardice and lies creating Trump's Pandemic to begin with and, most disastrously, that he spent nearly that first critical year insisting no one needed to bother inventing or taking a vaccine..Yeah, the vaccines are great, aren't they? Have you gotten your fourth dose yet?

Gino02
02-22-22, 19:49
Under Trump I was not muzzled up whenever I went to the store or anywhere else. Still am now. I moved around free without worrying about neighborhood takeovers or getting suckered punched.

My groceries then cost much less that it cost now which they blame on the supply chain and have not done anything about for the last year. Yes I heard the argument about the "It's the meat packers fault" and to debunk it, the same four major meat packers that exist now were the same four supplying us when Trump was president.Looking at the all around shit-show going on now, more and more I think Trump was the best POTUS in last 20 or even 30 years! He definitely got inside many peoples' skin with the mean tweets (some of which even I don't agree with), but in the more important areas from Economy to World Peace, he was the most balanced POTUS I have seen in my adult life. He kept wall street / main street balance in check, as well as kept Russia / China / North Korea in check with his weird but effective diplomacy. He didn't know much about how to deal with Covid, but followed reasonable advices from the scientists and pushed for what's practical as opposed to being power hungry and curbing citizens' freedom. Also the only POTUS, like a true leader, didn't take a dime of tax payers' money given to him as salary, neither charging million dollars post-POTUS to speak at seminars like Obama and Clinton does.

Yes, keep on mongering!

EihTooms
02-22-22, 19:52
Biden at his (or should we say "it's") best!

https://news.yahoo.com/why-biden-now-less-popular-100037176.html

This is from USA Today / Yahoo. I could refer some more informative Fox news, OAN or Newsmax article / video, but libtards will say that's biased even without trying to learn the facts. That said, good news is that liberals with some brains left, and a lot of independents with learning and thinking capacity are now accepting that voting for Biden was a mistake, much worse than avoiding the mean tweets.Let me get this straight. At this point in his presidency Trump's RCP Job Approval Rating was 41.4% and his Job Disapproval Rating was 53%. And that was after a year of passing absolutely no significant legislation except the one that had not taken effect yet and all he did was coast on the Obama-Biden economy and national security he inherited.

That being of steadily declining Unemployment Rate, one of the best Jobs Creation presidencies of all time, no Great Recessions, no Bear Market Crashes, no "Obama Pandemic" wiping out hundreds of thousands of American lives and millions upon millions of jobs, no worldwide supply chain collapse, no forced closures of schools, restaurants, malls, recreation venues and businesses, no total surrender to the Taliban in Afghanistan on their terms and timeline to deal with, no previous president having spent 4 years siding with Putin and other enemies of democracy over the USA, no preceding president leading the charge on overthrowing American democracy and overturning free and fair elections, etc as he took office and into his first year and so on.

Really, nothing for Trump to do, no crisis to deal with, no serious problems to solve until at least this time in his presidency except to decide where play golf this week and to think up insulting names for his critics. Therefore, that's all he did.

And this despite the fact that RCP leans heavily on Repub over-sampling polling services like Rasmussen, Trafalgar and Emerson for their consensus Job Approval figures, as they do today.

Wow. Poor Joe. Such a disappointment after 1 whole year and a month in office.

BTW, since that opinion piece was posted, Biden's RCP Job Approval Rating is now as of this writing at 41.4% and his Job Disapproval Rating is 52.9%. So unless Trump's got better four days later it looks like Joe is beating him again.

"RealClearPolitics. Election Other. President Biden Job Approval" https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html.

Canada
02-22-22, 19:52
White House is threatening sanctions. I wonder if Biden is going to sanction the 844,000 barrels per day of heavy crude from Russia. Thus driving oil prices higher. Isn't it great that we are depending on Russia for heavy oil instead of the horrible country up north? Canada. Wouldn't it be nice if that oil was coming on Keystone Pipeline instead of Biden's buddy Putin?

Jay0940
02-22-22, 20:09
Under Trump I was not muzzled up whenever I went to the store or anywhere else. Still am now. I moved around free without worrying about neighborhood takeovers or getting suckered punched.

My groceries then cost much less that it cost now which they blame on the supply chain and have not done anything about for the last year. Yes I heard the argument about the "It's the meat packers fault" and to debunk it, the same four major meat packers that exist now were the same four supplying us when Trump was president.Amazing. Mask mandates were started under the Trump Administration. Also, snowflake, if little kids can wear a mask to protect the elderly and immunocompromised, you can too.

Violent crime dramatically increased in 2020 under Trump. And if you're that scared to walk around without get sucker punched, maybe you're the problem. I don't seem to have those issues or concerns.

Finally, what did you (or anyone else) think would happen when billions of stimulus dollars were pumped into the economy (under Trump) in 2020. Any person with a basic understanding of economics (obviously not you) would know that this would cause inflationary pressure on the economy. It's just the alternative (recession) was much worse. So either you were deluding yourself that inflation wouldn't occur or you're spouting nonsense, or both.

I must say. While I appreciate the humor of this thread, it's absolutely useless. It's like playing whack-a-mole with Trump Republicans. You can't win because even when you point out the lunacy of their arguments (I. E. Election fraud) they just disagree with basic facts or make stuff up. I can't have a discussion with someone who isn't reasonable.

Xpartan
02-22-22, 20:53
Under Trump I was not muzzled up whenever I went to the store or anywhere else. Still am now.I hear you. Trump granted you a permission not to give a fuck about spreading around a potentially deadly disease. Those were the times! Totally getting your saudade as they call it in Brazil.

Canada
02-22-22, 21:41
I hear you. Trump granted you a permission not to give a fuck about spreading around a potentially deadly disease. Those were the times! Totally getting your saudade as they call it in Brazil.I guess you are a good Biden follower. You need to be told what to do, where do go and what to wear. Fortunately most people are smart enough to decide for themselves how their life should be lived. We are in a free nation. No dictator yet although socialists want one.

Axel Heyst
02-23-22, 00:35
Is he Crazy Or Just Plain Stupid?

Four weeks ago, there were 58,000 new COVID cases per day in Canada. 2 days ago, there were 3,000. So with Omicron on the verge of defeat with solid evidence showing that Canadians are more or less protected against its spread, ie 78% of the population is vaccinated and 74% double-vaccinated not to mention millions who have had the disease and thus have a natural immunity; PM Justin "Look at me, I'm a girly man" Trudeau decides to tear his country apart in order to enforce vaccine and mask mandates in order to look decisive by dealing with a disease that is in full retreat! What a great example of pure Woke leadership in action.

Meanwhile, don't get me started on President "I like Vanilla Ice Cream before I take a nap" and Putin over the Ukraine. They got the sexiest girls on the planet in the Ukraine. No wonder Putin wants it. I wish I had gone there in the late 90's.

Canada
02-23-22, 01:21
Let me get this straight. At this point in his presidency Trump's RCP Job Approval Rating was 41.4% and his Job Disapproval Rating was 53%. And that was after a year of passing absolutely no significant legislation except the one that had not taken effect yet and all he did was coast on the Obama-Biden economy and national security he inherited.

That being of steadily declining Unemployment Rate, one of the best Jobs Creation presidencies of all time, no Great Recessions, no Bear Market Crashes, no "Obama Pandemic" wiping out hundreds of thousands of American lives and millions upon millions of jobs, no worldwide supply chain collapse, no forced closures of schools, restaurants, malls, recreation venues and businesses, no total surrender to the Taliban in Afghanistan on their terms and timeline to deal with, no previous president having spent 4 years siding with Putin and other enemies of democracy over the USA, no preceding president leading the charge on overthrowing American democracy and overturning free and fair elections, etc as he took office and into his first year and so on.

Really, nothing for Trump to do, no crisis to deal with, no serious problems to solve until at least this time in his presidency except to decide where play golf this week and to think up insulting names for his critics. Therefore, that's all he did.Biden is beating Trump. Looks like he will have one more war than Trump since Putin only moves in on weak USA presidents like Obama and Biden. Biden is beating Trump on inflation. Trump inflation was only 1%. Biden is nearing 10%. Biden is beating Trump on gas prices by over 50%. Let's go Brandon.

Xpartan
02-23-22, 02:12
Finally, what did you (or anyone else) think would happen when billions of stimulus dollars were pumped into the economy (under Trump) in 2020. Any person with a basic understanding of economics (obviously not you) would know that this would cause inflationary pressure on the economy. It's just the alternative (recession) was much worse. So either you were deluding yourself that inflation wouldn't occur or you're spouting nonsense, or both.
Let's not forget Trump's $2 trillion of completely unnecessary tax cuts to the mega-rich, the cuts that will be biting us in the ass until at least 2028. A $2 trillion unconditional gift that did absolutely nothing for the economy.


Fortunately most people are smart enough to decide for themselves how their life should be lived.Yeah, but unfortunately you're not one of those people.

EihTooms
02-23-22, 02:43
Amazing. Mask mandates were started under the Trump Administration. Also, snowflake, if little kids can wear a mask to protect the elderly and immunocompromised, you can too.

Violent crime dramatically increased in 2020 under Trump. And if you're that scared to walk around without get sucker punched, maybe you're the problem. I don't seem to have those issues or concerns.

Finally, what did you (or anyone else) think would happen when billions of stimulus dollars were pumped into the economy (under Trump) in 2020. Any person with a basic understanding of economics (obviously not you) would know that this would cause inflationary pressure on the economy. It's just the alternative (recession) was much worse. So either you were deluding yourself that inflation wouldn't occur or you're spouting nonsense, or both.

I must say. While I appreciate the humor of this thread, it's absolutely useless. It's like playing whack-a-mole with Trump Republicans. You can't win because even when you point out the lunacy of their arguments (I. E. Election fraud) they just disagree with basic facts or make stuff up. I can't have a discussion with someone who isn't reasonable.If it wasn't so much fun to whack loony Repub moles and watch others do the same as well as the far more than occasional loony Repub mole whacking himself even harder whenever he tries in vain to "substantiate" his lies and idiotic position, I wouldn't spend the few minutes a day I spend here.

Thankfully, only rarely does a loony Repub mole whack himself so badly in that latter way that he gives up and grandly announces his empty noggin can't take anymore of the beating and he has decided to put the people who make him do it on "Ignore."

EihTooms
02-23-22, 03:04
A rabid Trumpster and Dem hater fellow Thailand punter I know who lives in Texas sent me an email complaining that rents have gone up 40%+ in Austin "primarily because Tesla moved there from California"!

No bullshit mention of it having anything to do with Biden. I was impressed.

This prediction from late last year came true with a vengeance:

"Tesla's moving to Austin, Texas, for cheap housing and could come up short for would-be employees. MarketWatch" https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/tesla-is-moving-from-california-to-austin-where-house-prices-surged-45-over-the-last-year-11633708786.


The pandemic-era move from California to other parts of the country has inflated home prices in the smaller markets, creating new housing crunches in the process.Of course, I had just replied to his inquiries about rising prices in Bangkok due to worldwide inflation pressures that, sure enough, many breakfast deals, restaurant prices etc have gone up 30% here and there, items in 7-11 going up noticeably and so on. So maybe he rightfully understood it would sound stupid for him to blame Biden for that, too.

It is a special Trumpster and Dem hater who stops himself from asserting something even he knows sounds stupid.

Golfinho
02-23-22, 03:39
White House is threatening sanctions. I wonder if Biden is going to sanction the 844,000 barrels per day of heavy crude from Russia. Thus driving oil prices higher. Isn't it great that we are depending on Russia for heavy oil instead of the horrible country up north? Canada. Wouldn't it be nice if that oil was coming on Keystone Pipeline instead of Biden's buddy Putin?The people running Biden's State Department evidently will do anything to keep that new pipeline from bringing Russian fuel to Germany. In the meantime, they're rubbing their hands together at the thought of how to eventually get control of Russia's natural resources.

So much for American foreign policy being run for American citizens.

EihTooms
02-23-22, 04:08
Yeah, the vaccines are great, aren't they? Have you gotten your fourth dose yet?Yes, they are great. Thanks, Obama-Biden. But only if they get effectively distributed and shot into your body. Thanks, Biden-Harris.

However, being a farang living in Bangkok I was a low priority for getting vaccinated here. Even with the supplies of Pfizer and so on sent here by Biden to administer to Americans. My age certainly put me in the high risk group. But apparently I was not visibly overweight enough to get moved up in the queue. So I pre-paid for 2 Moderna shots whenever they would arrive in this country.

The timing was such that one of the best hospitals here contacted me to come in for 2 free AstraZeneca shots 12 weeks apart then 12 weeks later the Modernas arrived and I got the first one of those as my third shot.

I can get the 2nd Moderna as my fourth shot if I want in a couple of months. Unless I read of some serious potential downside from a 4th shot so soon, I'll take it, no problem.

I have had zero side effects from any of these vaccine shots so far aside from a slightly sore spot on my arm where they jabbed me for a day or two.

EihTooms
02-23-22, 04:49
Biden has given Russia free rein to invade Ukraine. Just like Obama and Biden drawing a line in the sand in the Obama presidency and then doing nothing is exactly what Biden is doing with Putin. Claiming he will put sanctions on Russia if they invade. Germany gas already stopped the Russia pipeline that Biden took Trump sanctions off and other European countries are putting sanctions on Russia before invasion but Biden does nothing but make idle threats that Putin knows he won't follow through on. A weak USA president is ideal for dictators like Putin. Iran and North Korea will be next to take advantage of Biden. Didn't happen under Trump presidency and wouldn't happen now if we actually had a president with balls.Apparently at Trump's urging, Republicans surgically removed military support for Ukraine vs Russia from their entire Party platform as early as July 2016:

In a shift, Republican platform doesn't call for arming Ukraine against Russia, spurring outrage

https://www.latimes.com/world/la-na-pol-ukraine-gop-20160720-snap-story.html

Thus began the latest stage in the Republican Party's love affair with Russia that included Bush2 gazing deeply into Vladimir's eyes to swoon over his manly soul, when Repub leaders openly praised Putin while trashing our president all during the Obama years, Moscow Mitch refusing to even put Obama's legally required Senate request for military response to Putin invading Crimea up for a vote, then the above linked event.

Then there was Trump devoting his entire four year foreign policy to kissing Xi's ass and giving him whatever he wanted as long as he would "Make sure I win" re-election, writing sadly unrequited Love Letters to Kim but most notably in praising Putin, publicly siding with Russia over America at world leader summits, begging them to embrace Putin as their respected colleague, secretly refusing to enforce sanctions for Putin's invasion of other countries, maneuvering to deny any and all funding of Ukraine's resistance against threatened Russian invasion, etc etc etc.

Why Trump and his Repubs are suddenly interested in keeping any country safe for democracy now, much less Ukraine, even less the United States of America, is puzzling unless it is simply about the obvious: political gamesmanship, the only accomplishments that Party has produced in decades, if ever in the past 100 years.

Xpartan
02-23-22, 07:35
The people running Biden's State Department evidently will do anything to keep that new pipeline from bringing Russian fuel to Germany. In the meantime, they're rubbing their hands together at the thought of how to eventually get control of Russia's natural resources.

So much for American foreign policy being run for American citizens.On the scale from 1 to 10, how much do you personally love Putin?

You crackpots are just too much. Ain't you the ones who've yelled and shrilled how Biden is soft on Russia, how he's failed to stop the Nord 2, so what's your problem now?

In the meantime, Trump's back at it, praising the boss.


Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday praised Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to send Russian troops into Ukraine to support Russian-backed separatists in the Luhansk and Donetsk provinces. In an appearance on the right-wing talk radio program "The Buck Sexton Show," Trump broke his conspicuous silence on the crisis to applaud the Russian dictator.

"This is genius," he said of Putin's decision on Monday to officially recognize the breakaway provinces and authorize the use of Russian military personnel to assist them. "So Putin is now saying it’s independent — a large section of Ukraine. I said, how smart is that? And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace, all right."https://news.yahoo.com/trump-praises-putins-genius-incursion-into-ukraine-234001858.html

MarquisdeSade1
02-23-22, 07:43
On the scale from 1 to 10, how much do you personally love Putin?

You crackpots are just too much. Ain't you the ones who've yelled and shrilled how Biden is soft on Russia, how he's failed to stop the Nord 2, so what's your problem now?

In the meantime, Trump's back at it, praising the boss.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-praises-putins-genius-incursion-into-ukraine-234001858.htmlSomebody should!

https://www.newsmax.com/patrickbuchanan/donetsk-kyiv-luhansk/2022/02/18/id/1057441/

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/bernie-sanders-ukraine/

EatALotOpus
02-23-22, 10:29
I hear you. Trump granted you a permission not to give a fuck about spreading around a potentially deadly disease. Those were the times! Totally getting your saudade as they call it in Brazil.You stay muzzled up, keep your distance and you'll be fine. Why should I restrict myself by giving a flying F&ck about you?

Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

I consider myself a Great BSer, however from time to time I like to listen to one so please continue.

EatALotOpus
02-23-22, 11:34
Finally, what did you (or anyone else) think would happen when billions of stimulus dollars were pumped into the economy (under Trump) in 2020. Any person with a basic understanding of economics (obviously not you) would know that this would cause inflationary pressure on the economy. It's just the alternative (recession) was much worse. So either you were deluding yourself that inflation wouldn't occur or you're spouting nonsense, or both.Out of common courtesy I'll answer once!

Yeah Violent crime started under Trump by Antifa. Not homicides that resulted from defunding the police and no prosecution while Sleepy uhm Joe supporting it (short of a small incursion) like!

On the inflation aspect, You are telling me that the great economic minds in DC including yours willingly pumped money into the hands of Americans knowing that it will cause inflation. Restrictions on oil was not inflationary Eh!

You're dazzling me with your brilliant Bullsh! T.

As far as me being the problem, maybe, but YOU don't know me, don't know my strengths or weakness therefore I let you think whatever your Einstein mind want to think.

The masking and election fraud have been beaten to death and don't merit further discussion.

One thing for sure. Presidents from Obama to present all they accomplished was to divide America. In fact Obama said he wanted to change America fundamentally. Indeed he did!

Anywho *intentional. That was my one response. You made your point I made mine and leave I'll it at that. Enjoy life.

Golfinho
02-23-22, 14:55
On the scale from 1 to 10, how much do you personally love Putin?

You crackpots are just too much. Ain't you the ones who've yelled and shrilled how Biden is soft on Russia, how he's failed to stop the Nord 2, so what's your problem..Too busy ranting and raving trying to get your nut off to comprehend a concise, clearly written statement:

The people running Biden's State Department are pursuing a policy aimed at preventing Germany from receiving natural gas through Nordstream2. The European vassal states can't be permitted to gain energy autonomy from the USA. Their longer term policy is to break Russia, have a regime change so US corporations gain control of Russian economy and natural resources.

Nothing being said as to whether this is "good" or "bad."

Canada
02-23-22, 15:07
Is he Crazy Or Just Plain Stupid?

Four weeks ago, there were 58,000 new COVID cases per day in Canada. 2 days ago, there were 3,000. So with Omicron on the verge of defeat with solid evidence showing that Canadians are more or less protected against its spread, ie 78% of the population is vaccinated and 74% double-vaccinated not to mention millions who have had the disease and thus have a natural immunity; PM Justin "Look at me, I'm a girly man" Trudeau decides to tear his country apart in order to enforce vaccine and mask mandates in order to look decisive by dealing with a disease that is in full retreat! What a great example of pure Woke leadership in action.

Meanwhile, don't get me started on President "I like Vanilla Ice Cream before I take a nap" and Putin over the Ukraine. They got the sexiest girls on the planet in the Ukraine. No wonder Putin wants it. I wish I had gone there in the late 90's.Trudeau is trying to prove he is dumber than Biden and Harris. He is one of the dumbest people on the world but he still has a long way to catch Biden and Harris stupidly. At least Biden can prove he has dementia.

EihTooms
02-23-22, 15:56
On the scale from 1 to 10, how much do you personally love Putin?

You crackpots are just too much. Ain't you the ones who've yelled and shrilled how Biden is soft on Russia, how he's failed to stop the Nord 2, so what's your problem now?

In the meantime, Trump's back at it, praising the boss.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-praises-putins-genius-incursion-into-ukraine-234001858.htmlThere should now be no doubt that Trump did believe Putin had put a bounty on the heads of USA military personnel with the Taliban, as leaked and reported, and that he said absolutely nothing about it to him in any of their off-the-record passionate conversations. The only thing that might have bothered Trump about that is he didn't think of it first. Then again, maybe he's the one of the two of them who did think of it first. That would be totally believable now, too.

After all, they are just "suckers" according to Cadet Bone Spurs. We'll never know since Trump demanded no notes be taken or kept during those little collusion love rendezvous.

Add this to Trump's below average economic results (and worse than that when you consider how many Trillions he spent of our money to buy those mediocre results) compared to just the past 11 presidents during this "best" years before his disastrous 2018 and 2020 decisions damn near burned down to the ground all the major economies of the world, America's chief among them, wiping out millions upon millions of jobs, destroying international supply-chains requiring historic stimulus spending to recover us, both of which created the unavoidable inflation we're seeing around the world today, all those needless deaths and so on.

Its no wonder some crackpots think he is the "best president" of their lifetimes or the "best president" of the past 20-30 years.

Imagine anyone outside of the Kremlin, Kim and Xi's palaces thinking such a thing. LOL. That is some kind of serious hatred for America there, folks.

EihTooms
02-23-22, 16:47
It is also money earned by Americans from more, better and higher paying jobs that were produced last year in Biden's historic Great Dem Recovery from the latest Great Repub Crash and Recession. Yep, they were long, long overdue pay raises for someone other than the CEO of the companies they work for, the great "evil" in the minds of winger Repubs.

Thanks Joe, Nancy, Chuck, the Dems and everyone who voted for them.

This was only 2 1/2 months ago. Still true:

Americans Are Flush With Cash and Jobs. They Also Think the Economy Is Awful.
The psychological effects of inflation seem to have the upper hand.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/06/upshot/inflation-psychology-economy.html

Americans are, by many measures, in a better financial position than they have been in many years. They also believe the economy is in terrible shape.

This is the great contradiction that underlies President Bidens poor approval ratings, recent Republican victories in state elections and the touch-and-go negotiations over the Biden legislative agenda. It presents a fundamental challenge for economic policy, which has succeeded at lifting the wealth, incomes and job prospects of millions of people but has not made Americans, in their own self-perception, any better off.

Workers have seized the upper hand in the labor market, attaining the largest raises in decades and quitting their jobs at record rates. The unemployment rate is 4.6 percent and has been falling rapidly. Cumulatively, Americans are sitting on piles of cash; they have accumulated $2.3 trillion more in savings in the last 19 months than would have been expected in the prepandemic path. The median households checking account balance was 50 percent higher in July of this year than in 2019, according to the JPMorgan Chase Institute.

Yet workers assessment of the economy is scathing.
...

Thanks, typically pro Repub Mainstream Media.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/02/23/savings-bank-accounts-covid/


Most Americans are significantly better off financially now than they were before the pandemic began, new bank-account data shows, but there are signs that low-income families are beginning to fall behind.

Following surprisingly strong retail sales, consumer expectations and hiring numbers, new savings data through December 2021 from the JPMorgan Chase Institute points to a rapidly thawing economy, one that could shift into even higher gear as the omicron-fueled covid-19 wave subsides and states continue to ease some covid restrictions.

Americans are sitting on $2.6 trillion in extra savings, a separate Post analysis shows, and signs abound that they are opening up their wallets on long-delayed spending on travel, dining and other experiences that have been on hold since lockdowns swept the country almost two years ago.

EatALotOpus
02-23-22, 17:26
Looking at the all around shit-show going on now, more and more I think Trump was the best POTUS in last 20 or even 30 years! He definitely got inside many peoples' skin with the mean tweets (some of which even I don't agree with), but in the more important areas from Economy to World Peace, he was the most balanced POTUS I have seen in my adult life. He kept wall street / main street balance in check, as well as kept Russia / China / North Korea in check with his weird but effective diplomacy. He didn't know much about how to deal with Covid, but followed reasonable advices from the scientists and pushed for what's practical as opposed to being power hungry and curbing citizens' freedom. Also the only POTUS, like a true leader, didn't take a dime of tax payers' money given to him as salary, neither charging million dollars post-POTUS to speak at seminars like Obama and Clinton does.

Yes, keep on mongering!Unfortunately some others though are in denial, uninformed, their ego / hate prevents them from getting it or just dense! They don't see the Empire crumbling. Regardless if we voice our opinion that goes against their believes they resort to personal attacks. Soooo let them show their stupidity in a mongering board.

Elvis 2008
02-23-22, 17:30
The people running Biden's State Department evidently will do anything to keep that new pipeline from bringing Russian fuel to Germany. In the meantime, they're rubbing their hands together at the thought of how to eventually get control of Russia's natural resources.

So much for American foreign policy being run for American citizens.Yeah, and it used to be American natural gas could not be used in Europe but with LNG it can be so higher oil and natural gas prices which benefits Russia.

With his idiotic climate change agenda and foreign policy, Biden is making the Russians and his hated oil companies rich while bankrupting the American consumer. All I can say to that is Let's go Brandon!

EihTooms
02-23-22, 17:43
Unfortunately some others though are in denial, uninformed, their ego / hate prevents them from getting it or just dense! Regardless if we voice our opinion that goes against their believes they resort to personal attacks. Soooo let them show their stupidity in a mongering board.LOL. Trump flushed more taxpayer's money down the shitter just funding his weekly golf excursions to his failed resorts than his presidential salary could ever have replaced! And how does anyone know if he kept the paycheck he never earned? Do you suppose he put the money into one of his fraudulent "charity" organizations?

That is just one of the idiot assertions made in that astonishingly stupid and ill-informed post you just agreed with.

EihTooms
02-23-22, 18:30
Somebody should!

https://www.newsmax.com/patrickbuchanan/donetsk-kyiv-luhansk/2022/02/18/id/1057441/

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/bernie-sanders-ukraine/.Right now, Putin is twitchy enough to be two blinks away from going off. Like the dumb dog that caught the car.

At this point, Putin has been cornered into selling a lot of tickets to other countries who'll want to join NATO. Which, of course, is the exact opposite of what he and his puppet Trump worked so hard to accomplish together.

This isn't even about Putin vs Biden. The USA doesn't need Russia. If Putin invades Ukraine, that is no threat to our national security. Ukraine is not a member of NATO now so we have no obligation to engage militarily. Those are the reasons Obama had to get permission from the Senate to respond militarily in 2014, which Moscow Mitch refused to even open for a vote in the Senate.

It is really all about what Zelensky does, not Biden.

The USA already had a couple of experiences with clown tv show hosts as president. Hopefully, the Ukraine will fare much, much better for it.

In our case, the first clown tv show host president, Reagan, left the American people with such a belly full of buyer's regret from his and his VP administration's results, his Party has not gotten more votes than the Dem over the next 30 years and 8 presidential elections except one and that one was only at the point of a gun when the idiot plunged us into 2-3 counterproductive quagmire, no-win wars as a "wartime president. " LOL.

Our second clown tv show host president, Trump, produced such horrific results he is the only president since his Party icon of icon economic models, Herbert Hoover, to lose the House, the Senate and the Presidency in just 4 years.

Elvis 2008
02-23-22, 19:37
I must say. While I appreciate the humor of this thread, it's absolutely useless. It's like playing whack-a-mole with Trump Republicans. You can't win because even when you point out the lunacy of their arguments (I. E. Election fraud) they just disagree with basic facts or make stuff up. I can't have a discussion with someone who isn't reasonable.Okay, Jay, in Georgia, when those people pulled out the ballot boxes, how many of those votes they counted when no one was around went for Biden and how many for Trump?

I do not know. So how do you? If the votes went 50-50, there was no fraud, but 95 to 5 for Biden, fraud is an issue. And in one set of challenged ballots from a nursing home, that is exactly how the vote went, and it was blown off. Once I read that, I was like both Georgia Senate seats are going Democrat because the fix is in, and they did. I am kicking myself for not putting money down on their winning.

Now I hear the Democratic argument that judges saw there was no evidence of fraud, but that is not what the judges said. They said that Republicans should have brought up potential fraud issues before the election, and they should have.

Now the Georgia Secretary of State has secured testimony from a guy who made $45,000 illegally harvesting ballots. I guess you have decided already that he is a liar right?

I accepted the election results. The Republicans going crying to judges and expecting them to fix it after a winner was declared was never going to happen. I knew that before any judge rendered a decision. It did not matter what the evidence was. Now the Republicans know to challenge votes before the final decision is made, and THAT is what is driving Dems crazy.

And Democrats are crying that showing an ID before voting is Jim Crow 2. 0. Yeah, right. And Biden trying to take control of the elections at the national level is not exactly confidence inspiring either.

That you Democrats are okay with requiring an ID to get on a plane or buy a beer but not to vote shows just how corrupt you people really are. To me, it is tantamount to an admission you want to cheat.

Like I said, I accepted the 2020 election results, but I will never accept that the vote was not rigged not after what I have seen and read. Time and again, I have read how records should have been kept but were deleted. Still, it does not matter.

What matters is in the future things are going to be really fair, and it looks like right now, Democrats are going to get slaughtered, and those odds are not at the polls but at the casinos.

Canada
02-23-22, 19:44
On the scale from 1 to 10, how much do you personally love Putin?

You crackpots are just too much. Ain't you the ones who've yelled and shrilled how Biden is soft on Russia, how he's failed to stop the Nord 2, so what's your problem now?

In the meantime, Trump's back at it, praising the boss.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-praises-putins-genius-incursion-into-ukraine-234001858.htmlPutin prayers were answered. Biden won the election creating an opening for a Russia to invade Ukraine. Putin was smart enough to wait for Trump to get out of office so he would have free rein. If you saw Biden speech today you can understand why Putin is confident. Biden weakness plays right into Putin hands. Iran, China and North Korea are smiling and planning as we speak.

Canada
02-23-22, 19:48
Out of common courtesy I'll answer once!

Yeah Violent crime started under Trump by Antifa. Not homicides that resulted from defunding the police and no prosecution while Sleepy uhm Joe supporting it (short of a small incursion) like!

On the inflation aspect, You are telling me that the great economic minds in DC including yours willingly pumped money into the hands of Americans knowing that it will cause inflation. Restrictions on oil was not inflationary Eh!

You're dazzling me with your brilliant Bullsh! T.

As far as me being the problem, maybe, but YOU don't know me, don't know my strengths or weakness therefore I let you think whatever your Einstein mind want to think.

The masking and election fraud have been beaten to death and don't merit further discussion.

One thing for sure. Presidents from Obama to present all they accomplished was to divide America. In fact Obama said he wanted to change America fundamentally. Indeed he did!.You are absolutely right. Great post. Democrats are to blame for the crime surge and they still are not doing anything about it. No bail and defunding police have created a monster in these democratic states. And the democrats aren't even smart enough to admit they screwed up.

Cali Guy
02-23-22, 19:56
Biden is beating Trump. Looks like he will have one more war than Trump since Putin only moves in on weak USA presidents like Obama and Biden. Biden is beating Trump on inflation. Trump inflation was only 1%. Biden is nearing 10%. Biden is beating Trump on gas prices by over 50%. Let's go Brandon.The only thing Biden is capable of doing is failing at everything. His first year was a disaster and this year is starting out much worse. How bad can it get under Biden? Trump is looking like the best president ever now.

Gino02
02-23-22, 20:08
On the scale from 1 to 10, how much do you personally love Putin?

You crackpots are just too much. Ain't you the ones who've yelled and shrilled how Biden is soft on Russia, how he's failed to stop the Nord 2, so what's your problem now?

In the meantime, Trump's back at it, praising the boss.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-praises-putins-genius-incursion-into-ukraine-234001858.htmlThis is the part libtards don't get it. Have you ever heard of making people think they are making the decisions, while you smooth talk with them such a way that they end up deciding exactly what you want them to do? Trump does that all the time, also uses the good-cop bad-cop method. Exactly why neither Putin nor Kim Jong-un actually started any war or invasion during Trump's time. This is called real diplomacy when you drive other powerful party's decisions by smooth talks. Biden and his puppeteers are not that smart to do this LOL.

Or maybe I am totally wrong, these Dem cronies might actually want these wars and invasions to make money thru defense contracts with both parties. Sell arms to one side directly, sell to the other side thru indirect channels. And that's even shittier thing than being simply stupid.

Let's hope we can bring world peace again by getting Trump or someone like him as the next POTUS. Fingers crossed. Amen.

Axel Heyst
02-23-22, 21:23
Unfortunately some others though are in denial, uninformed, their ego / hate prevents them from getting it or just dense! They don't see the Empire crumbling. Regardless if we voice our opinion that goes against their believes they resort to personal attacks. Soooo let them show their stupidity in a mongering board.I think you are being too kind. 555. Because I fail to see how this political left wing bull shite belongs on a mongering site dedicated to the concept of shagging pretty young girls all over the world. Woke and mongering do not go together. They are polar opposites. The woke left hate mongers. They consider our favorite past time misogynistic and even criminal. Thus a real player living in reality could never be a woke-tard! In the best case scenario I would say our left wing contemporaries are confused and suffering from cognitive dissonance. In the worse case scenario I would say some of these left wingers are not mongers at all. They just want to throw the dirt around and ruin the ISG.

Xpartan
02-23-22, 22:49
Its no wonder some crackpots think he is the "best president" of their lifetimes or the "best president" of the past 20-30 years.

Imagine anyone outside of the Kremlin, Kim and Xi's palaces thinking such a thing. LOL. That is some kind of serious hatred for America there, folks.Well, I seriously doubt any of the tyrants you named has even an ounce of genuine respect for the Dumb Orange.

KGB has always called Soviet sympathizers in the West "useful idiots. " There is no reason to believe they would change their views now.

They're laughing through their teeth. At him and at us for being so gullible to elect that walking, burping catastrophe.


The KGB also promoted and used “useful idiots” (a KGB term for those whose foolish views make them helpful to achieve KGB goals). Whether President Trump was compromised by his past conduct is uncertain, but he is clearly a fool who attacks our closest allies, weakens NATO, diminishes U.S. standing around the world and shamefully supports Russian President Vladimir Putin despite his tyranny, bounties on U.S. troops and murder of opponents.https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/mr-putins-useful-fool/2020/09/10/b6032902-f160-11ea-8025-5d3489768ac8_story.html

Vagabundo1
02-23-22, 23:22
Absolutely right!


The only thing Biden is capable of doing is failing at everything. His first year was a disaster and this year is starting out much worse. How bad can it get under Biden? Trump is looking like the best president ever now.

Axel Heyst
02-23-22, 23:56
That you Democrats are okay with requiring an ID to get on a plane or buy a beer but not to vote shows just how corrupt you people really are. To me, it is tantamount to an admission you want to cheat.Of course it is cheating, but the Left always justifies what they do thanks to their sanctimonious so called "noble" ends. I call BS.

Voter interference and undue influence: Here is a major example of how the 2020 election was interfered with: Mark Zuckerberg among other left wing elites donated $420 million dollars of his own money to couple of "non-partisan," tax-exempt political operations: The Center for Technology and Civic Life and The Center for Election Innovation and Research.

So these two left wing partisan "centers" hired Vote Navigators" to canvas mostly poor neighborhoods that traditionally vote for Democrats. These ballot mercenaries would go inside the homes of voters. Note, it is a crime in all 50 states to "electioneer" at polling places where you walk into and vote, but the loop hole in Covid 2020 was that it was not a criminal activity for a third party to interfere with a mail-in ballot.

Thus thousands of these left wing paid navigators flooded the democrat, mostly minority precincts in Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. All states that were close between Biden and Trump. The navigators "assisted" voters in filling out ballots and, at times, "cured" mistakes. That means they influenced votes and definitely corrected ballots so they wouldn't be thrown out. Sometimes these hired political operatives took the actual ballots from the folks and brought them to polling places. This is called "bundling. " So what guarantees were there of non interference or vote manipulation were there? None.

The proof of the corruption was in the result which was a 99% vote count for Joe Biden among these harvested and bundled ballots in certain voting precincts under Democratic Party control in Philadelphia and Atlanta which tipped the election exactly the way it was intended.

This is why the left loves mail-in ballots so much. They can easily be manipulated with guys like Zuckerberg donating cash to make it happen. By the way, the harvesting and bundling in itself was legal in these states even though the gathered votes themselves were heavily influenced and not an honest vote in too many cases to pretend otherwise. But try to prove it after the fact. HA! Good luck. So if the states don't crack down on this colossal con, it will happen again in 2024.

Donald Trump lost some of the states mentioned above by extremely small margins. Many think the election was stolen. Can anyone blame them for thinking it? So, this is an enormously important issue. Again: it is illegal in all 50 states to "electioneer" within 75 to 100 feet of a polling place where CITIZENS you walk in and vote in private. Without the sanctity and assurance of voter privacy, there is no democracy. Period. All Americans knew this 20 years ago. What's changed?

Elvis 2008
02-24-22, 01:38
This is the part libtards don't get it. Have you ever heard of making people think they are making the decisions, while you smooth talk with them such a way that they end up deciding exactly what you want them to do? Trump does that all the time, also uses the good-cop bad-cop method. Exactly why neither Putin nor Kim Jong-un actually started any war or invasion during Trump's time. This is called real diplomacy when you drive other powerful party's decisions by smooth talks. Biden and his puppeteers are not that smart to do this LOL.Exactly. For all the hatred expressed for Trump and the stupid impeachments, that is what bugged me about the Dems and Trump. Bush was involved in a ridiculous war and suspended civil rights when it came to terror. Torture was started back up under Bush, and there was nothing. Obama drones and kills not just an American citizen but an American minor without a trial, and it is like that is fine. There was no impeachment for any of that stuff.

Trump has a phone call with the Ukrainian president, and the Democrats come unglued. A phone call was an impeachable offense. That is what got me with Trump. I was like, "What has this guy done that you hate him so much? The economy is okay, and there are no wars."

Trump knows the way you deal with these dictators is by appealing to their egos because he has been taking care of the rich and powerful his whole life. Calling them evil gets you nowhere. That is why no one watches PMSNBC any more. They have a "discussion" about Putin and all you see are four people screaming about how rotten Putin is. When you do that, you have locked yourself in.

And Trump has mastered the bait and switch. Trump makes an outrageous statement and then watches the Dems explode and then backs off of it a little and seeing that they have already shot their wad by going full outrage already, the Dems do not what to do.

I might not be crazy about Putin but politically he is running circles around Biden and so is Trump. For all the crap Biden is speaking about Ukraine, there is nothing he can do. The Democrats have called Putin evil for so long that when he actually does something that could be called evil, everyone is yawning. By bringing the fake Russiagate into a presidential election, anything Putin does is going to be yawned at by anyone who voted Republican. Putin is evil? What else is new?

How much do I like Putin? Well, I like that he is making Biden look like a complete ass right now. Biden has been itching to go to war, and Putin just called his bluff, so war is off the table for now. So yeah, I like us not going to war.

Biden is going to have to start a fake war in Africa or Asia, and that is going to take a while. They need to create a new Dr. Evil, and that takes time. The Democrats and Biden think war is the only thing that can save them.

Canada
02-24-22, 01:39
Well, I seriously doubt any of the tyrants you named has even an ounce of genuine respect for the Dumb Orange.

KGB has always called Soviet sympathizers in the West "useful idiots. " There is no reason to believe they would change their views now.

They're laughing through their teeth. At him and at us for being so gullible to elect that walking, burping catastrophe.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/mr-putins-useful-fool/2020/09/10/b6032902-f160-11ea-8025-5d3489768ac8_story.htmlYes you are right. The world is laughing at Biden incompetence after his speech today. You may be right about KGB thinking Biden is a useful idiot for Russia.

Canada
02-24-22, 01:42
I think you are being too kind. 555. Because I fail to see how this political left wing bull shite belongs on a mongering site dedicated to the concept of shagging pretty young girls all over the world. Woke and mongering do not go together. They are polar opposites. The woke left hate mongers. They consider our favorite past time misogynistic and even criminal. Thus a real player living in reality could never be a woke-tard! In the best case scenario I would say our left wing contemporaries are confused and suffering from cognitive dissonance. In the worse case scenario I would say some of these left wingers are not mongers at all. They just want to throw the dirt around and ruin the ISG.Agreed. I can't see these left wingers mongering with their political woke correctness.

Canada
02-24-22, 01:49
Right now, Putin is twitchy enough to be two blinks away from going off. Like the dumb dog that caught the car.

At this point, Putin has been cornered into selling a lot of tickets to other countries who'll want to join NATO. Which, of course, is the exact opposite of what he and his puppet Trump worked so hard to accomplish together.

This isn't even about Putin vs Biden. The USA doesn't need Russia. If Putin invades Ukraine, that is no threat to our national security. Ukraine is not a member of NATO now so we have no obligation to engage militarily. Those are the reasons Obama had to get permission from the Senate to respond militarily in 2014, which Moscow Mitch refused to even open for a vote in the Senate.

It is really all about what Zelensky does, not Biden.

The USA already had a couple of experiences with clown tv show hosts as president. Hopefully, the Ukraine will fare much, much better for it..Lies are the only things you post. You are wrong. USA needs Russian oil. Did you notice Biden didn't sanction Russian oil coming into USA?

Did you notice Putin invades Ukraine only when USA has a weak president thus Obama and Biden.

Are you saying Biden will kill less Americans in Ukraine than he did in Afghanistan?

Even you have to admit Biden's total incompetence and Trump presidency 100 times better than Biden's!

EihTooms
02-24-22, 01:51
Well, I seriously doubt any of the tyrants you named has even an ounce of genuine respect for the Dumb Orange.

KGB has always called Soviet sympathizers in the West "useful idiots. " There is no reason to believe they would change their views now.

They're laughing through their teeth. At him and at us for being so gullible to elect that walking, burping catastrophe.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/mr-putins-useful-fool/2020/09/10/b6032902-f160-11ea-8025-5d3489768ac8_story.htmlOh, hell no, I wasn't talking about any of our foreign adversaries having an ounce of "respect" for Trump.

Just that, for them he was the "best" USA president, meaning exactly what you suggested; their most useful idiot in the White House ever.

Remember when Butch asked Sundance who was the best lawman and Sundance had to clarify, "You mean the easiest to bribe"?

That's what I meant. LOL.

Canada
02-24-22, 01:51
Yeah, and it used to be American natural gas could not be used in Europe but with LNG it can be so higher oil and natural gas prices which benefits Russia.

With his idiotic climate change agenda and foreign policy, Biden is making the Russians and his hated oil companies rich while bankrupting the American consumer. All I can say to that is Let's go Brandon!You are right. Biden is making Russia rich with oil prices now. Biden is one of the main reasons Russia has the money to destroy countries. Let's go Brandon.

EihTooms
02-24-22, 02:10
I think you are being too kind. 555. Because I fail to see how this political left wing bull shite belongs on a mongering site dedicated to the concept of shagging pretty young girls all over the world. Woke and mongering do not go together. They are polar opposites. The woke left hate mongers. They consider our favorite past time misogynistic and even criminal. Thus a real player living in reality could never be a woke-tard! In the best case scenario I would say our left wing contemporaries are confused and suffering from cognitive dissonance. In the worse case scenario I would say some of these left wingers are not mongers at all. They just want to throw the dirt around and ruin the ISG.Because the more Trump wannabe Repubs are elected, the more variants of Trump's Pandemic virus will mutate inside the host bodies of science-denying FreeDumb-loving cult followers to override the vaccine protections and the more likely the next potential Pandemic virus, the next one and the ones after that will be ignored and lied about until they all reach virulent full blown Pandemic levels that will again, again and again trigger international travel shutdowns and crippling restrictions going forward for the rest of your life and certainly mine.

There has been and will continue to be no greater threat to the purpose of this entire website and the interests of it members than the refusal to vote for and support Dems in the USA, the bashing of them and the touting and promotion of Repubs instead.

Consequently, the topics discussed in this thread might be the most important on this site, far surpassing the importance of, say, considering where to get a lousy BJ for 1300 baht plus an inexplicable 200-300 tip for the lousy service.

EihTooms
02-24-22, 02:47
This is the part libtards don't get it. Have you ever heard of making people think they are making the decisions, while you smooth talk with them such a way that they end up deciding exactly what you want them to do? Trump does that all the time, also uses the good-cop bad-cop method. Exactly why neither Putin nor Kim Jong-un actually started any war or invasion during Trump's time. This is called real diplomacy when you drive other powerful party's decisions by smooth talks. Biden and his puppeteers are not that smart to do this LOL.

Or maybe I am totally wrong, these Dem cronies might actually want these wars and invasions to make money thru defense contracts with both parties. Sell arms to one side directly, sell to the other side thru indirect channels. And that's even shittier thing than being simply stupid.

Let's hope we can bring world peace again by getting Trump or someone like him as the next POTUS. Fingers crossed. Amen.We all remember the sweet talk Trump lavished on Xi in early 2020 about how thankful we ought to be for his transparency and how, thanks to his admirable competence, the USA only had to deal with 1 case of the coronavirus out of China, 15 here and soon that would be near zero.

And then Trump went on to sweet talk Americans and everyone else in the world stupid enough to listen to him and fall for it that the deadly risks and rapid transmission of the virus, well known to him at the time, were a "Democrat Party Hoax! It is disappearing and will go away without a vaccine"!

Such sweet Trump talk. It certainly helped Xi, Kim, Putin and any other USA adversaries decide they didn't need to lift a finger to plunge the USA into total economic chaos and disaster and, oh by the way, with a bonus of mass murdering a million or more Americans along the way.

All without them launching one expensive missile in our direction.

We can only imagine the sweet talk Trump slathered all over them when he assured them, "Don't worry, I've got this whole American democracy thingy annoyance for you in my gun sights too and just the violent, America-hating cult followers to overthrow it for ya'. Just relax. I've got this. Kim, I see you've lost some weight and it is most becoming".

True, no libtard has mastered the art of that kind of sweet talk to woo and satisfy America's enemies' goals.

Cali Guy
02-24-22, 02:47
Yeah, and it used to be American natural gas could not be used in Europe but with LNG it can be so higher oil and natural gas prices which benefits Russia.

With his idiotic climate change agenda and foreign policy, Biden is making the Russians and his hated oil companies rich while bankrupting the American consumer. All I can say to that is Let's go Brandon!The far left liberals in NYC are following the Russian collusion hoax by investigating all the Trump businesses. Another hoax and after all the lies were spilled the prosecutors all quit today. Basically said there is nothing there. CNN and MSNBC are wrong again with all their fake news.

MarquisdeSade1
02-24-22, 03:36
LOL. Trump flushed more taxpayer's money down the shitter just funding his weekly golf excursions to his failed resorts than his presidential salary could ever have replaced! And how does anyone know if he kept the paycheck he never earned? Do you suppose he put the money into one of his fraudulent "charity" organizations?

That is just one of the idiot assertions made in that astonishingly stupid and ill-informed post you just agreed with.https://www.rt.com/news/550142-how-inflation-kills-democracy/

EihTooms
02-24-22, 05:02
Lies are the only things you post. You are wrong. USA needs Russian oil. Did you notice Biden didn't sanction Russian oil coming into USA?

Did you notice Putin invades Ukraine only when USA has a weak president thus Obama and Biden.

Are you saying Biden will kill less Americans in Ukraine than he did in Afghanistan?

Even you have to admit Biden's total incompetence and Trump presidency 100 times better than Biden's!USA got 11% of it's crude oil imports from Russia last year, the highest percentage in a long time, if not ever. And that was due to Trump's Pandemic supply chain destruction that is being repaired already.

If Russian oil evaporated tomorrow we could happily pick up the slack from Canada and Mexico.

USA does not need Russia for a damn thing. That temporary maximum of 11% oil from Russia would not be enough to convince the Senate that we ought to launch into a war with them for National Security reasons in order to recover that easily replaceable pittance.

Putin's desperate war to replace Trump's failed attempt to service him free of charge and Russian bloodshed with that "perfect phone call" to Ukraine's Zelensky is not a Putin vs Biden fiasco.

EihTooms
02-24-22, 05:27
https://www.rt.com/news/550142-how-inflation-kills-democracy/Uh. You mean inflation "destroys democracies" that didn't or don't have a Federal Reserve Board in place with the all-important dual mandate to keep inflation under control (raise or lower Fed Funds Rates as necessary) without jeopardising jobs.

The USA Federal Reserve Board today with its Trump-appointed Chairman does not see enough reason to raise the rate in order to reverse the trajectory of inflation just yet. As Carter's Fed Chairman did by March 1980, almost a year before Reagan took office.

Biden's economy is roaring along, more, better and higher-paying jobs are being created at record speed everywhere and American families are still flush with more cash in their pockets after all expenses and taxes are paid and adjusted for today's inflation than they had at the peak of Trump's utterly mediocre and way, way too expensive pre-Trump's Pandemic "economy" in 2019.

Democracy will die in America when Repub voters finally get their way by hook or much more likely by crook. Not because American workers have finally gotten a pay increase after decades of Repub tax policies and Great Repub Crashes enriching the already wealthy top income margins at the expense of everyone else with their devoted campaigners in Mainstream Media cheering them on and praising them for "handling the economy better than Dems"!

Gino02
02-24-22, 06:04
We all remember the sweet talk Trump lavished on Xi in early 2020 about how thankful we ought to be for his transparency and how, thanks to his admirable competence, the USA only had to deal with 1 case of the coronavirus out of China, 15 here and soon that would be near zero.

And then Trump went on to sweet talk Americans and everyone else in the world stupid enough to listen to him and fall for it that the deadly risks and rapid transmission of the virus, well known to him at the time, were a "Democrat Party Hoax! It is disappearing and will go away without a vaccine"!

Such sweet Trump talk. It certainly helped Xi, Kim, Putin and any other USA adversaries decide they didn't need to lift a finger to plunge the USA into total economic chaos and disaster and, oh by the way, with a bonus of mass murdering a million or more Americans along the way.

All without them launching one expensive missile in our direction.

We can only imagine the sweet talk Trump slathered all over them when he assured them, "Don't worry, I've got this whole American democracy thingy annoyance for you in my gun sights too and just the violent, America-hating cult followers to overthrow it for ya'. Just relax. I've got this. Kim, I see you've lost some weight and it is most becoming".LOL how many wars started during Trump as POTUS? Efficiency of the diplomacy is in the results, right?

Elvis 2008
02-24-22, 06:45
Of course it is cheating, but the Left always justifies what they do thanks to their sanctimonious so called "noble" ends. I call BS.

Voter interference and undue influence: Here is a major example of how the 2020 election was interfered with: Mark Zuckerberg among other left wing elites donated $420 million dollars of his own money to couple of "non-partisan," tax-exempt political operations: The Center for Technology and Civic Life and The Center for Election Innovation and Research.I did not know that AH. Great post!

Xpartan
02-24-22, 07:25
Chillingly indeed. All non-crackpots should spend a few minutes and watch the full interview.


In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin from which much can be learned today. His most chilling point was that theres a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and demoralization. Its a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit.

Bezmenov made the point that the work of the KGB mainly does not involve espionage, despite what our popular culture may tell us. Most of the work, 85% of it, was a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare.

Bezmenov described this process as a great brainwashing which has four basic stages. The first stage is called demoralization which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. Exposure to true information does not matter anymore, said Bezmenov. "A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it, until he receives a kick in his fan-bottom. When a military boot crashes his balls then he will understand. But not before that."

Its hard not to see in that the state of many modern Americans. We have become a society of polarized tribes, with some people flat out rejecting facts in favor of narratives and opinions.

Once demoralization is completed, the second stage of ideological brainwashing is destabilization. During this two-to-five-year period, asserted Bezmenov, what matters is the targeting of essential structural elements of a nation: economy, foreign relations, and defense systems. Basically, the subverter (Russia) would look to destabilize every one of those areas in the United States, considerably weakening it.

The third stage would be crisis. It would take only up to six weeks to send a country into crisis, explained Bezmenov. The crisis would bring a violent change of power, structure, and economy and will be followed by the last stage, normalization. Thats when your country is basically taken over, living under a new ideology and reality.https://bigthink.com/the-present/yuri-bezmenov/

ScatManDoo
02-24-22, 08:47
And Trump has mastered the bait and switch. Trump makes an outrageous statement and then watches the Dems explode and then backs off of it a little and seeing that they have already shot their wad by going full outrage already, the Dems do not what to do.

I might not be crazy.Don't count on that Elvis.

Canada
02-24-22, 14:16
Of course it is cheating, but the Left always justifies what they do thanks to their sanctimonious so called "noble" ends. I call BS.

Voter interference and undue influence: Here is a major example of how the 2020 election was interfered with: Mark Zuckerberg among other left wing elites donated $420 million dollars of his own money to couple of "non-partisan," tax-exempt political operations: The Center for Technology and Civic Life and The Center for Election Innovation and Research.

So these two left wing partisan "centers" hired Vote Navigators" to canvas mostly poor neighborhoods that traditionally vote for Democrats. These ballot mercenaries would go inside the homes of voters. Note, it is a crime in all 50 states to "electioneer" at polling places where you walk into and vote, but the loop hole in Covid 2020 was that it was not a criminal activity for a third party to interfere with a mail-in ballot.

Thus thousands of these left wing paid navigators flooded the democrat, mostly minority precincts in Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. All states that were close between Biden and Trump. The navigators "assisted" voters in filling out ballots and, at times, "cured" mistakes. That means they influenced votes and definitely corrected ballots so they wouldn't be thrown out. Sometimes these hired political operatives took the actual ballots from the folks and brought them to polling places. This is called "bundling. " So what guarantees were there of non interference or vote manipulation were there? None.Absolutely correct.

Canada
02-24-22, 14:20
Exactly. For all the hatred expressed for Trump and the stupid impeachments, that is what bugged me about the Dems and Trump. Bush was involved in a ridiculous war and suspended civil rights when it came to terror. Torture was started back up under Bush, and there was nothing. Obama drones and kills not just an American citizen but an American minor without a trial, and it is like that is fine. There was no impeachment for any of that stuff.

Trump has a phone call with the Ukrainian president, and the Democrats come unglued. A phone call was an impeachable offense. That is what got me with Trump. I was like, "What has this guy done that you hate him so much? The economy is okay, and there are no wars."

Trump knows the way you deal with these dictators is by appealing to their egos because he has been taking care of the rich and powerful his whole life. Calling them evil gets you nowhere. That is why no one watches PMSNBC any more. They have a "discussion" about Putin and all you see are four people screaming about how rotten Putin is. When you do that, you have locked yourself in.Biden is already responsible for a war. His weak foreign policy enabled Putin to invade Ukraine. Biden has blood on his hands. Not only Ukrainians will be killed but also Americans living and working in Ukraine. And yes Harris will make light of this and chuckle. Socialists will not agree. Idiots will not agree.

EatALotOpus
02-24-22, 14:43
As of right now WTI at 99.90.

Let's go Brandon!

GDreams
02-24-22, 15:11
You are right. Biden is making Russia rich with oil prices now. Biden is one of the main reasons Russia has the money to destroy countries. Let's go Brandon.Well the Democrats are pushing ahead to promote the adoption of electric vehicles against staunch opposition by Republicans. Just imagine Russia and Saudi, Iran, Venezuela, and all the other tin pot dictatorships fighting for relevance if just vehicles were electric powered. Imagine all the money to be saved not having to control these recalcitrant with bloated militaries. Oh but who would Trump need to grovel to if Putin and the Saudi king were no longer in power.

Golfinho
02-24-22, 15:23
Well, well, the people behind Senile POTUS succeeded in starting their war on Russia's border. After Trump managed to keep the lid on it for four years, the Democrat Party warmongers in total recklessness just went right ahead and fcuked everybody.

Beavis
02-24-22, 16:12
This section of the board is entertaining. As the ship is sinking it's still Trump's fault. Just shows how intelligence can be persuaded not observed. I am sure this goes ay over the head of most people that comment in this section. See you in about a month for some more confirmation that most Americans (I am also) are programmed by the media. Just like the owners of this country want you to be.

EatALotOpus
02-24-22, 16:15
Well, well, the people behind Senile POTUS succeeded in starting their war on Russia's border. After Trump managed to keep the lid on it for four years, the Democrat Party warmongers in total recklessness just went right ahead and fcuked everybody.Bradon's deterrence and fourty+ years of diplomatic know-how worked out well for Ukraine Eh? And he did that all by himself! Stand by! With the impotence of this POTUS China is acting next

We got long black winter ahead of us and it'll last for three more years.

Let's go Brandon!

PVMonger
02-24-22, 16:17
Of course it is cheating, but the Left always justifies what they do thanks to their sanctimonious so called "noble" ends. I call BS.

Voter interference and undue influence: Here is a major example of how the 2020 election was interfered with: Mark Zuckerberg among other left wing elites donated $420 million dollars of his own money to couple of "non-partisan," tax-exempt political operations: The Center for Technology and Civic Life and The Center for Election Innovation and Research.

So these two left wing partisan "centers" hired Vote Navigators" to canvas mostly poor neighborhoods that traditionally vote for Democrats. These ballot mercenaries would go inside the homes of voters. Note, it is a crime in all 50 states to "electioneer" at polling places where you walk into and vote, but the loop hole in Covid 2020 was that it was not a criminal activity for a third party to interfere with a mail-in ballot.

Thus thousands of these left wing paid navigators flooded the democrat, mostly minority precincts in Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. All states that were close between Biden and Trump. The navigators "assisted" voters in filling out ballots and, at times, "cured" mistakes. That means they influenced votes and definitely corrected ballots so they wouldn't be thrown out. Sometimes these hired political operatives took the actual ballots from the folks and brought them to polling places. This is called "bundling. " So what guarantees were there of non interference or vote manipulation were there? None.Geez, even the "National Review", a typically winger publication, says that all of what you say is BS. https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/02/irresponsible-hype-from-molly-ball-and-time-magazine/.

And, as usual, you bought rightwingnut propaganda skin, baloney and all.

EihTooms
02-24-22, 16:28
LOL how many wars started during Trump as POTUS? Efficiency of the diplomacy is in the results, right?Our enemies didn't need to start wars to thrash our economy and kill Americans while Trump was in charge. He did a better job of that than any USA enemy ever could.

And they knew it.

PVMonger
02-24-22, 16:30
Biden is already responsible for a war. His weak foreign policy enabled Putin to invade Ukraine. Biden has blood on his hands. Not only Ukrainians will be killed but also Americans living and working in Ukraine. And yes Harris will make light of this and chuckle. Socialists will not agree. Idiots will not agree.So, what would Cheeto-Tweeto have done? Threaten to nuke Moscow? Actually nuke Moscow? Threaten to send in troops? Actually send in troops. Convince Putin not to release the Russian-hooker-pee-tape?

What you wingers don't understand is that Putin has wanted Ukraine for a long time. Since 1991, in fact. And, yes, I know that Putin didn't become the head Red until 2012. But somehow wingers forget that Cheeto-Tweeto campaigned in 2016 about getting the US out of NATO. He campaigned in 2020 that he would do that if re-elected.

So why would Putin need to do anything. He'd help Cheeto-Tweeto (again) get elected in 2020 and wait for him to pull the US out of NATO. Then he could just walk right in to Ukraine without firing a shot.

But Biden threw a monkey-wrench into the works by getting elected. Rather than having an ally in the White House (see recent reports of Cheeto-Tweeto praising Putin) Putin had an enemy. Biden had Putin backed into a corner. Putin wanted Ukraine but now it is going to cost him something.

Canada
02-24-22, 16:55
USA got 11% of it's crude oil imports from Russia last year, the highest percentage in a long time, if not ever. And that was due to Trump's Pandemic supply chain destruction that is being repaired already.

If Russian oil evaporated tomorrow we could happily pick up the slack from Canada and Mexico.

USA does not need Russia for a damn thing. That temporary maximum of 11% oil from Russia would not be enough to convince the Senate that we ought to launch into a war with them for National Security reasons in order to recover that easily replaceable pittance.

Putin's desperate war to replace Trump's failed attempt to service him free of charge and Russian bloodshed with that "perfect phone call" to Ukraine's Zelensky is not a Putin vs Biden fiasco.You are wrong again and in fantasyland. Reason we are importing 844,000 barrels a day and giving Russia $80 million dollars a day is because Keystone pipeline was cancelled by Biden. We can go to Canada and get 844,000 barrels a day because we have no way of transporting it. Are we going fly it to the refinery? We can't get it from Mexico because Mexico doesn't have heavy crude. Right now Biden and USA are dependent on Russia for this. Don't blame Trump. He approved the pipeline and we would be getting Canadian oil today if Trump was president. There would not be a war in Ukraine if Trump was president as was proven in his 4 years in office. You and everyone that voted for Biden can take credit for the death toll in Ukraine. Guilty people always try to blame someone else. You if you are guilty keep blaming Trump.

EihTooms
02-24-22, 16:55
This invasion move by Putin was so spectacularly stupid and disastrous for his own country, the lamebrain idea for it must have come out of Trump's piehole during one of their No Notes Love Collusion meetings as an honest attempt by him to come up with an alternative means for his Master to take back Ukraine after Trump's idiotic "perfect phone call" scheme went down in Impeachment flames.

How stupid?

Here is a timely example.

Jobless claims total 232,000, slightly less than expected; Q4 GDP revised up to 7%

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/24/jobless-claims-gdp.html?__source=androidappshare


Jobless claims for the week ended Feb. 19 totaled 232,000, slightly less than expected.

Continuing claims hit their lowest level in nearly 52 years.

GDP increased at a 7% annualized pace in the fourth quarter, closing out a year with the strongest growth since 1984.Just like America under a Repub president, Russia isn't going to see economic results that good for a long, long time.

Canada
02-24-22, 17:02
Well the Democrats are pushing ahead to promote the adoption of electric vehicles against staunch opposition by Republicans. Just imagine Russia and Saudi, Iran, Venezuela, and all the other tin pot dictatorships fighting for relevance if just vehicles were electric powered. Imagine all the money to be saved not having to control these recalcitrant with bloated militaries. Oh but who would Trump need to grovel to if Putin and the Saudi king were no longer in power.The only one groveling to Putin is Biden. He did it under Obama and he did it from day one of his presidency. Everyone who voted for Biden showed their support for Putin. Now Biden weakness gave Putin the power to do whatever. Everyone who voted for Biden needs to take responsibility for Ukraine deaths.

EihTooms
02-24-22, 17:16
Bradon's deterrence and fourty+ years of diplomatic know-how worked out well for Ukraine Eh? And he did that all by himself! Stand by! With the impotence of this POTUS China is acting next

We got long black winter ahead of us and it'll last for three more years.

Let's go Brandon!I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?

"Biden is weak"?

I notice Putin didn't blunder into an invasion of the USA. Why Not?

I also notice Putin didn't bunder into invading a NATO country where "weak" Biden would be bound by Treaty to respond militarily. Why not?

I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

Unified or rather Re-unified thanks to "weak" Biden unifying civilized nations like never before after Trump spent 4 years trying to make Putin's dream of a dismantled Western Alliance come true.

And unless Trump or another Repub weasels into the White House to secretly violate those sanctions against Putin as dutiful Putin Puppet Trump did until he was busted by the Dems in Congress and forced to abide by the agreement, Russia is going to be forehead deep in shit until Putin squeals like a stuck pig.

EihTooms
02-24-22, 17:44
Well the Democrats are pushing ahead to promote the adoption of electric vehicles against staunch opposition by Republicans. Just imagine Russia and Saudi, Iran, Venezuela, and all the other tin pot dictatorships fighting for relevance if just vehicles were electric powered. Imagine all the money to be saved not having to control these recalcitrant with bloated militaries. Oh but who would Trump need to grovel to if Putin and the Saudi king were no longer in power.Electric vehicles are great. I have an electric motorbike that I use to zip all around Bangkok and I have no need to go to a gas station or to even know how much gas costs around here.

As usual, the Dems have the right idea for America and are trying to improve the economy, create good new jobs and strengthen our National Security while the Repubs are only thinking about making the corporate welfare subsidized oil industry executives wealthier and our adversaries more powerful.

PVMonger
02-24-22, 18:15
You are wrong again and in fantasyland. Reason we are importing 844,000 barrels a day and giving Russia $80 million dollars a day is because Keystone pipeline was cancelled by Biden. We can go to Canada and get 844,000 barrels a day because we have no way of transporting it. Are we going fly it to the refinery? We can't get it from Mexico because Mexico doesn't have heavy crude. Right now Biden and USA are dependent on Russia for this. Don't blame Trump. He approved the pipeline and we would be getting Canadian oil today if Trump was president. There would not be a war in Ukraine if Trump was president as was proven in his 4 years in office. You and everyone that voted for Biden can take credit for the death toll in Ukraine. Guilty people always try to blame someone else. You if you are guilty keep blaming Trump.So, did Biden cancel the Keystone pipeline? Or did he cancel the Keystone XL pipeline?

Because when you say Biden cancelled the Keystone pipeline, you are wrong. As usual. The Keystone pipeline is operational. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/even-without-keystone-xl-us-set-record-canadian-oil-imports-2021-01-22/.

What Biden cancelled was the Keystone XL pipeline. And although like to pin lots of blame on Biden, the fact is that the pipeline was 8% complete when he cancelled it. Now I realize that all fascists are construction jeniuses (just like they are all epidemiologists and election experts) but there is absolutely no way that a pipeline project that was 8% complete when it was cancelled 1 year ago would have had any impact on either the price of oil from Canada or the price of borscht in Moscow. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-keystonepipelinexl-builtandpai-idUSL1N2LA2SQ.

Your "we would be getting Canadian oil today if Trump was president" comment is a fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline.

Jay0940
02-24-22, 19:46
I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?

"Biden is weak"?

I notice Putin didn't blunder into an invasion of the USA. Why Not?

I also notice Putin didn't bunder into invading a NATO country where "weak" Biden would be bound by Treaty to respond militarily. Why not?

I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

Unified or rather Re-unified thanks to "weak" Biden unifying civilized nations like never before after Trump spent 4 years trying to make Putin's dream of a dismantled Western Alliance come true.

And unless Trump or another Repub weasels into the White House to secretly violate those sanctions against Putin as dutiful Putin Puppet Trump did until he was busted by the Dems in Congress and forced to abide by the agreement, Russia is going to be forehead deep in shit until Putin squeals like a stuck pig.Agreed on all counts. I find it pathetic that the same people who are now denouncing Biden as "weak" are the same people that kissed that orange buffoon's a** while he suckled at Putin's tits for four years. These are the same Republican senators and congressmen who conducted a "fact-finding" trip to Moscow over the July 4th holiday. Oh. And let's not forget the orange idiot's most recent statements kissing Putin's a** about Ukraine. Yet, despite these verifiable facts, Biden is weak? Come on. [Deleted by Admin]

What exactly should Biden have done to prevent Russia from invading a sovereign country with whom we have no treaty obligations to defend? You want American troops sent to Kyiv? Should we have disbanded NATO, as Trump would have done in a second term.

Cali Guy
02-24-22, 20:13
I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?

"Biden is weak"?

I notice Putin didn't blunder into an invasion of the USA. Why Not?

I also notice Putin didn't bunder into invading a NATO country where "weak" Biden would be bound by Treaty to respond militarily. Why not?

I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

Unified or rather Re-unified thanks to "weak" Biden unifying civilized nations like never before after Trump spent 4 years trying to make Putin's dream of a dismantled Western Alliance come true.

And unless Trump or another Repub weasels into the White House to secretly violate those sanctions against Putin as dutiful Putin Puppet Trump did until he was busted by the Dems in Congress and forced to abide by the agreement, Russia is going to be forehead deep in shit until Putin squeals like a stuck pig.Didn't you just see Biden last press conference. Sanctions should have been put on Russia weeks ago to deter them. Biden did nothing and Russia invaded Ukraine. Biden and congress put sanctions on to late and now Biden says let's wait a month and see what happens. Basically do nothing like Obama did last time. Biden is a joke to society and the Putin and the world are laughing at him.

Axel Heyst
02-24-22, 20:13
OK, let's get something straight right from the get go: Putin is the bad guy, the war criminal. Nobody but Putin is responsible for invading a peaceful, sovereign, democratic country and killing its citizens. He is following Hitler's playbook to the letter. Hitler justified the invasion Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia with the purported suffering of the ethnic Germans living in the region. I am getting deja vu all over again.

Now that said, the question must be asked: on who's watch did this travesty take place? Answer, Brandon. And who the fuck enabled this attacked by ending American's oil independence, cutting the Keystone Pipeline and all the regulatory BS on oil, natural gas ect thus allowing the Russians to become the predominant supplier of natural gas to Germany and Western Europe? A deal that brought in billions for the oligarchs and made Western Europe energy dependent on Putin's Russia. Answer, Brandon.

So what is Brandon going to do to rectify the situation he created and make sure that Putin pays a huge price for this aggression which just might deter the power hungry asshole from totally raping the Ukraine? The answer: More Sanctions! You have to be kidding me. Putin has already calculated the cost of sanctions to himself and his oligarchs and he don't care. The gain in oil price alone makes this a win win for him.

But what should President I like Vanilla Ice Cream every afternoon before I take a nap really do to bring Putin down and stop him cold in his tracks? It is simple. Reopen the American energy industry! The USA has a huge supply of oil and natural gas. More than any other region in the world. Biden could open that supply source up and offer it to the Germans and Europeans as an alternative, independent source of cheap, clean, American natural gas. Biden could say fuhgeddaboud the Russians. Fuck Putin!

As Jason Furman, a Harvard economist and former advisor to President Barack Obama, once said, "Russia's economy is "incredibly unimportant in the global economy except for oil and gas. It's basically a big gas station. " So, if the West stopped buying from Putin the Russian economy would crash and his tanks would rot in the Ukraine. But sadly, Putin thinks Biden is a weak fool who can be played. Putin would not have dared invade the Ukraine or any other country under Trump. So, what are the odds that Uncle Joe will open up the American Gas spigot and cream Putin?

Cali Guy
02-24-22, 20:16
So, what would Cheeto-Tweeto have done? Threaten to nuke Moscow? Actually nuke Moscow? Threaten to send in troops? Actually send in troops. Convince Putin not to release the Russian-hooker-pee-tape?

What you wingers don't understand is that Putin has wanted Ukraine for a long time. Since 1991, in fact. And, yes, I know that Putin didn't become the head Red until 2012. But somehow wingers forget that Cheeto-Tweeto campaigned in 2016 about getting the US out of NATO. He campaigned in 2020 that he would do that if re-elected.

So why would Putin need to do anything. He'd help Cheeto-Tweeto (again) get elected in 2020 and wait for him to pull the US out of NATO. Then he could just walk right in to Ukraine without firing a shot.

But Biden threw a monkey-wrench into the works by getting elected. Rather than having an ally in the White House (see recent reports of Cheeto-Tweeto praising Putin) Putin had an enemy. Biden had Putin backed into a corner. Putin wanted Ukraine but now it is going to cost him something.Yes you are right about one thing. Putin wanted Ukraine and that's why he invaded when Obama was president. He didn't get everything he wanted because Trump got elected and so he had to wait 4 years for a weak president to come in so he can finish the job. This never would have happened if Trump was president or if we had a strong democrat president.

Cali Guy
02-24-22, 20:18
Our enemies didn't need to start wars to thrash our economy and kill Americans while Trump was in charge. He did a better job of that than any USA enemy ever could.

And they knew it.Our enemy did start a war with the help from Biden. Biden is totally to blame for the deaths in Ukraine. The people who voted for him also have to know they helped Russia kill innocent people.

Xpartan
02-24-22, 20:23
I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?You won't. It's not like crackpots need a rhyme or reason to attack someone. They don't. Just like Putin didn't need a reason to attack Ukraine.

Crackpots don't hate Biden because he did or didn't do something wrong.

Crackpots hate Biden just because.

MarquisdeSade1
02-24-22, 20:41
Uh. You mean inflation "destroys democracies" that didn't or don't have a Federal Reserve Board in place with the all-important dual mandate to keep inflation under control (raise or lower Fed Funds Rates as necessary) without jeopardising jobs.

The USA Federal Reserve Board today with its Trump-appointed Chairman does not see enough reason to raise the rate in order to reverse the trajectory of inflation just yet. As Carter's Fed Chairman did by March 1980, almost a year before Reagan took office.

Biden's economy is roaring along, more, better and higher-paying jobs are being created at record speed everywhere and American families are still flush with more cash in their pockets after all expenses and taxes are paid and adjusted for today's inflation than they had at the peak of Trump's utterly mediocre and way, way too expensive pre-Trump's Pandemic "economy" in 2019.Your attempts at sophistry are quite unimpressive young man.

https://www.newsmax.com/ronpaul/cryptocurrencies-fiat-free-market/2022/02/23/id/1058103/

MarquisdeSade1
02-24-22, 20:45
I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?

"Biden is weak"?

I notice Putin didn't blunder into an invasion of the USA. Why Not?

I also notice Putin didn't bunder into invading a NATO country where "weak" Biden would be bound by Treaty to respond militarily. Why not?

I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

Unified or rather Re-unified thanks to "weak" Biden unifying civilized nations like never before after Trump spent 4 years trying to make Putin's dream of a dismantled Western Alliance come true.

And unless Trump or another Repub weasels into the White House to secretly violate those sanctions against Putin as dutiful Putin Puppet Trump did until he was busted by the Dems in Congress and forced to abide by the agreement, Russia is going to be forehead deep in shit until Putin squeals like a stuck pig.I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

Well as you know I've been there a few times, ask people about sanctions there and they laugh WTF are sanctions.

https://www.newsmax.com/murdock/discrimination/2022/02/24/id/1058363/

But there's this.

Golfinho
02-24-22, 21:22
You won't. It's not like crackpots need a rhyme or reason to attack someone. They don't. Just like Putin didn't need a reason to attack Ukraine..Putin "didn't need a reason to attack Ukraine"? Hello? NATO (I. E. USA) arms and pushes Ukraine for seven years now while Ukraine ignores Minsk Agreement, while Putin shows patient restraint. This is going to be difficult for you, but try imagining Russia arming a US adversarial State bordering America. Oh wait, you don't even have to imagine: can you say Cuban Missile Crisis?

Watching Russia's Security Council Meeting for several hours live a few mornings ago, with Putin presiding, the Russian position was made all-too-clear. In a staging where each member stating his view clearly and articulately (in translation), the Russian position was presented. With what would happen so incredible obvious to even the densest mind advising Senile POTUS, it can only be concluded that the advisors making the decisions for Senile POTUS wanted war -- repeat -- Wanted War. While the US Cabinet did not broadcast their meeting live, we can easily visualize what that theatre would have been like: a dozen of them, one after the other rubbing their hands together, lying out of both sides of their mouths, while barely able to contain smirks thinking about the number of Slavs they'll get killed, on either side, it doesn't matter. This brings us to why the people behind Senile Potus want this proxy confrontation with Russia. More on that soon.

The Cane
02-24-22, 21:57
Just thought I would pop my head in here to confirm that there are people in here blaming Biden (probably Obama too) for Putin's decision to launch an all out attack against a peaceful, democratic country. Yep!

Trinimoses
02-24-22, 23:54
Trump kept purtin in check as well as China. But no. The silliness of thinking that Biden isn't partially to blame for what is happen is stupid. He is a weak leader. And continues to show that he has no idea on what's going. His advisors are bad. Then again. Trump wasn't perfect. Most of the times he came off as an ass with a big ego. But he got shit done and was able to project strength. All Biden projects is wokeness and weakness.

EihTooms
02-25-22, 01:09
The only one groveling to Putin is Biden. He did it under Obama and he did it from day one of his presidency. Everyone who voted for Biden showed their support for Putin. Now Biden weakness gave Putin the power to do whatever. Everyone who voted for Biden needs to take responsibility for Ukraine deaths.Biden's role in this is that he and the millions more patriotic Americans who voted for him over Comrade Trump pose the unplanned for hurdle preventing Putin's "January 6 Event With Tanks" from overthrowing democracy anywhere he pleases.

Had Trump's 4 year long effort to keep his failed golf resorts afloat while improving his golf scorecard cheating skills at USA taxpayers' hundreds of millions of dollars expense, dismantle the Western Alliance and exit NATO produced the desired results on the latter two a bit better, the USA and the rest of the Free World would be waking up to a very different challenge today.

Thankfully, Weak On Democracy But Strong On Authoritarian Dictatorship Comrade Trump was a lousy salesman.

Desperate Putin would have been making this move by now anyway. But the reason his last two speeches have been a twitchy, nervous, embarrassing carnival of Trumpian incoherence and lunacy is because he was supposed to be overthrowing democracy and installing his authoritarian regime in Ukraine after Trump's "perfect phone call" scheme resulted in the USA denying Ukraine military funds due to Zelensky failing to produce bogus dirt on Biden and while Trump was cheering him on from inside the White House. The current resistance level conditions were not in the plan.

Instead, he's stuck with doing it against an insurmountable greater unified NATO whose membership is now bound to increase and strengthen, the exact opposite of his and his Puppet's intentions, and while Trump can only cheer him on from Kremlin West FUX News Channel.

EihTooms
02-25-22, 01:28
Trump kept purtin in check as well as China. But no. The silliness of thinking that Biden isn't partially to blame for what is happen is stupid. He is a weak leader. And continues to show that he has no idea on what's going. His advisors are bad. Then again. Trump wasn't perfect. Most of the times he came off as an ass with a big ego. But he got shit done and was able to project strength. All Biden projects is wokeness and weakness.What shit did Trump get done?

And I don't mean the historically bad economic results, the total waste of $2.5+ Trillion on his one godawful passed legislation, the subsequent two Bear Market Crashes within 18 months, his disastrous decisions that led directly to net job losses in the millions, hundreds of thousands of American deaths, the collapse of global supply chains and the inevitable inflation that followed.

I'm talking about "good" shit he got done.

Or was that what you meant?

Xpartan
02-25-22, 02:12
Putin "didn't need a reason to attack Ukraine"? Hello? NATO (I. E. USA) arms and pushes Ukraine for seven years now while Ukraine ignores Minsk Agreement, while Putin shows patient restraint. When was the last time an aggressor didn't blame the victim? Wait! Fucking never.


Hitler justified the attack (on the Netherlands) with a lie in an attempt to influence public opinion. He claimed that England and France had been planning to attack the German Ruhr Area via the Netherlands and Belgium. Some German soldiers were therefore surprised when they never encountered any English soldiers in the Netherlands. Just like Putin.


In justifying his invasion of Kuwait in August 1990, Saddam Hussein claimed it was an artificial state carved out of the Iraqi coast by Western colonialists Just like Putin.

Trumpers are the dumbest people alive!

Ty Down
02-25-22, 02:27
When was the last time an aggressor didn't blame the victim? Wait! Fucking never.

Just like Putin.

Just like Putin.

Trumpers are the dumbest people alive!Stick with Joe idiot.

Cali Guy
02-25-22, 02:55
When was the last time an aggressor didn't blame the victim? Wait! Fucking never.

Just like Putin.

Just like Putin.

Trumpers are the dumbest people alive!Putin saw weakness in Biden and he took advantage of it. Putin was watching Biden in Afghanistan and after that fiasco was confident. He never would have done it with Trump as president which was proven from 2016 to 2020. America sees this. Idiots don't.

Cali Guy
02-25-22, 02:59
Trump kept purtin in check as well as China. But no. The silliness of thinking that Biden isn't partially to blame for what is happen is stupid. He is a weak leader. And continues to show that he has no idea on what's going. His advisors are bad. Then again. Trump wasn't perfect. Most of the times he came off as an ass with a big ego. But he got shit done and was able to project strength. All Biden projects is wokeness and weakness.Agreed. Good accurate post. Biden is totally to blame and it started in his first day of office when he said his cabinet and advisors would not be hired on qualifications but on diversity. His advisors are the most diverse and totally unqualified and Afghanistan and Ukraine is proof.

Cali Guy
02-25-22, 03:04
Just thought I would pop my head in here to confirm that there are people in here blaming Biden (probably Obama too) for Putin's decision to launch an all out attack against a peaceful, democratic country. Yep!You were right but it was an easy pick. 225 million Americans know Biden is to blame. And everyone knows Obama did nothing to stop Putin. 75 million socialist idiots aren't smart enough to see how Biden screwed up everything and will probably blame Trump who actually kept Putin in check.

Cali Guy
02-25-22, 03:13
OK, let's get something straight right from the get go: Putin is the bad guy, the war criminal. Nobody but Putin is responsible for invading a peaceful, sovereign, democratic country and killing its citizens. He is following Hitler's playbook to the letter. Hitler justified the invasion Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia with the purported suffering of the ethnic Germans living in the region. I am getting deja vu all over again.

Now that said, the question must be asked: on who's watch did this travesty take place? Answer, Brandon. And who the fuck enabled this attacked by ending American's oil independence, cutting the Keystone Pipeline and all the regulatory BS on oil, natural gas ect thus allowing the Russians to become the predominant supplier of natural gas to Germany and Western Europe? A deal that brought in billions for the oligarchs and made Western Europe energy dependent on Putin's Russia. Answer, Brandon.

So what is Brandon going to do to rectify the situation he created and make sure that Putin pays a huge price for this aggression which just might deter the power hungry asshole from totally raping the Ukraine? The answer: More Sanctions! You have to be kidding me. Putin has already calculated the cost of sanctions to himself and his oligarchs and he don't care. The gain in oil price alone makes this a win win for him.Great post. Why aren't you our president?

Golfinho
02-25-22, 04:22
When was the last time an aggressor didn't blame the victim? Wait! Fucking never.
You been cooking on another planet the past seven years, eh shlome?

Since the two Donbas Republics declared themselves independent in like 2014, the Kiev regime has been all over them, signed and then didn't follow thru on the Minsk Agreement, took arms from the NATO forces, and who knows what else, and then publicly floated the idea of becoming nuclear armed. All the meanwhile shelling Donetsk and Lugansk. It sure took Putin long enough to get around to solving the problem.

Golfinho
02-25-22, 04:29
You won't. It's not like crackpots need a rhyme or reason to attack someone. They don't. Just like Putin didn't need a reason to attack Ukraine.
Crackpots don't hate Biden because he did or didn't do something.Let's fix this for you:

It's not like Israelis need a rhyme or reason to attack someone. They don't. Just like Israel didn't need a reason to attack: fill in the blank. Sane human beings are disgusted by Israel because or what they did and do.

There you go. Try to keep it real.

ScatManDoo
02-25-22, 06:50
Let's fix this for you:

It's not like Israelis need a rhyme or reason to attack someone. They don't. Just like Israel didn't need a reason to attack: fill in the blank. Sane human beings are disgusted by Israel because or what they did and do.

There you go. Try to keep it real.That post took you out of the competition for.

The zionist of the year award.

Elvis 2008
02-25-22, 06:57
Putin saw weakness in Biden and he took advantage of it. Putin was watching Biden in Afghanistan and after that fiasco was confident. He never would have done it with Trump as president which was proven from 2016 to 2020. America sees this. Idiots don't.Good post, Cali!

And let's not forget all the elites cashing on a corrupt Ukraine. God knows how much dirt Putin is going to find on the Bidens and others there. The Dems have been fucking around in Ukraine for like a decade. Why?

Xpartan
02-25-22, 07:23
You been cooking on another planet the past seven years, eh shlome?

Since the two Donbas Republics declared themselves independent in like 2014, the Kiev regime has been all over them, signed and then didn't follow thru on the Minsk Agreement, took arms from the NATO forces, and who knows what else, and then publicly floated the idea of becoming nuclear armed. All the meanwhile shelling Donetsk and Lugansk. It sure took Putin long enough to get around to solving the problem.Shlome, huh?

Didn't take you long to get back to your anti-Semitic self. That's fine though, you're one of Trump's "fine people" after all. Nothing unusual.

But how nice of you to get back to me with more idiocies, huh? Well, let's fix it.

1. There is not a single country in the world that would allow any of its provinces to just "declare independence". Why should Ukraine?

2. The "independence" of Lugansk and Donbass provinces was engineered by GRU agents. Which is well documented by the perps themselves.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2014/11/21/russias-igor-strelkov-i-am-responsible-for-war-in-eastern-ukraine-a41598

3. You must really feel left out that Ukraine, an independent country, forgot to ask you who it should or should not buy weapons from. Well, too bad.

4. The notion that Ukraine was developing nuclear weapons is one of the stupidest and craziest Putin's lies.

5. Ukraine troops and the separatists were shelling each other. Separatists have always had a direct supply line from Russia, along with Russian "specialists" working among them. They are thugs, not victims.

6. The fact that you and Trump praise an aggressor who has attacked a country that didn't present any security threat to him, tells volumes about Trump and trumpers. What else is new?

A right-wing anti-Semitic trumper who loves wars and adores tyrants, LOL. You, sir, are a walking, talking, farting cliche. Keep at it.

Xpartan
02-25-22, 07:28
So, come on, trumpers. Who else loves Putin and his war on Ukraine? At least Golfinho here has the guts (not the brains, but that's another story) to tell the whole world about his true feelings. Who's next?

EihTooms
02-25-22, 07:31
You were right but it was an easy pick. 225 million Americans know Biden is to blame. And everyone knows Obama did nothing to stop Putin. 75 million socialist idiots aren't smart enough to see how Biden screwed up everything and will probably blame Trump who actually kept Putin in check.I have not heard one person in either Russia, Ukraine or in any other country outside of the USA, civilian or pol, blame Biden for Putin's astonishingly stupid move except for Trump, the FUX News Channel clowns and their America-hating cult followers.

Not one.

And at last count 3-4 million was the highest number of viewers for FUX News Channel's highest rated clown circus ring of liars.

Xpartan
02-25-22, 07:40
Biden's role in this is that he and the millions more patriotic Americans who voted for him over Comrade Trump pose the unplanned for hurdle preventing Putin's "January 6 Event With Tanks" from overthrowing democracy anywhere he pleases.

Had Trump's 4 year long effort to keep his failed golf resorts afloat while improving his golf scorecard cheating skills at USA taxpayers' hundreds of millions of dollars expense, dismantle the Western Alliance and exit NATO produced the desired results on the latter two a bit better, the USA and the rest of the Free World would be waking up to a very different challenge today.

Thankfully, Weak On Democracy But Strong On Authoritarian Dictatorship Comrade Trump was a lousy salesman.

Desperate Putin would have been making this move by now anyway. But the reason his last two speeches have been a twitchy, nervous, embarrassing carnival of Trumpian incoherence and lunacy is because he was supposed to be overthrowing democracy and installing his authoritarian regime in Ukraine after Trump's "perfect phone call" scheme resulted in the USA denying Ukraine military funds due to Zelensky failing to produce bogus dirt on Biden and while Trump was cheering him on from inside the White House. The current resistance level conditions were not in the plan.

Instead, he's stuck with doing it against an insurmountable greater unified NATO whose membership is now bound to increase and strengthen, the exact opposite of his and his Puppet's intentions, and while Trump can only cheer him on from Kremlin West FUX News Channel.Bingo! Putin also might've calculated that the Orange Fart would not return to the White House in 2024. So, no reason to wait.

MarquisdeSade1
02-25-22, 08:22
You were right but it was an easy pick. 225 million Americans know Biden is to blame. And everyone knows Obama did nothing to stop Putin. 75 million socialist idiots aren't smart enough to see how Biden screwed up everything and will probably blame Trump who actually kept Putin in check.https://amgreatness.com/2022/02/23/putins-predictabilities/

EihTooms
02-25-22, 10:42
Didn't you just see Biden last press conference. Sanctions should have been put on Russia weeks ago to deter them. Biden did nothing and Russia invaded Ukraine. Biden and congress put sanctions on to late and now Biden says let's wait a month and see what happens. Basically do nothing like Obama did last time. Biden is a joke to society and the Putin and the world are laughing at him.To have enacted sanctions "weeks ago" before Putin made a move would have been falling right into Putin's obvious trap and fueled his publicly proclaimed lamebrain, fabricated reasons for invading Ukraine:

"Waa waaaa everybody is so mean to poor widdle me Putin! Look! Now that bad ol' Biden is imposing sanctions for doing nothing! Enemies, enemies everywhere. Got to invade Ukraine now to strengthen our position against Russia's enemies always picking on me"!

You haven't been paying attention. Thank god, Biden and his team have been.

In fact, everything Biden and our intel predicted Putin would do, they got it right, including his repeated false flag, made up attacks on him that forced him to pull this shit.

To have punished him for doing something. Before he did it would have been the only fairly genuine claim that "those bad ol' putty tats started it" on the world stage.

Dumb, dumb, dumb idea.

The Cane
02-25-22, 13:16
Great post. Why aren't you our president?And this is precisely why we got somebody like Donald Chump for president. It's easy to *****, moan, complain, and blame without offering any real solutions yourselves. Don't be a part of the problem. Be a part of the solution. In my view, the sanctions have not gone far enough (they should be kicked out of the Swift banking system for one thing), but if it isn't sanctions, then what geniuses? A military intervention? And a nuclear World War III? Is this what you want? Here's where we are today. So what's your proposed solution (s) then?

EihTooms
02-25-22, 14:22
Bingo! Putin also might've calculated that the Orange Fart would not return to the White House in 2024. So, no reason to wait.The other great risk in waiting that Putin could not afford to take was every year of democratic success in Ukraine was another year closer to Zelensky considering joining NATO.

And all while Putin was witnessing Joe Biden strengthening, unifying and making joining the Western Alliance / NATO a more attractive option for Freedom-loving democracies around the world by the day than all the efforts by Putin and fellow democracy-hating, dictatorship-loving Trump had achieved in the opposite direction over the previous four years.

Trump did his best to smooth the way in those 4 years but was not going to be in the White House at crunch time, thanks to Joe Biden and the patriotic Americans who voted for him.

Putin would not dare invade NATO member Ukraine or any other member or he'd get his ass kicked on day one.

Meanwhile, he was watching the meager gains made by Trump to smooth the way for overthrowing more democracies around the world slipping away by the hour.

Time was of the essence here.

The Cane
02-25-22, 14:33
Providing aid and comfort to the enemy:

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/flashback-president-bush-on-putins-soul-208352323648

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/01/02/trump-broke-law-russia-clinton-emails-hold-him-accountable-column/2449564002/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923

EatALotOpus
02-25-22, 14:41
I have still yet to read a coherent explanation for how a spectacularly stupid move by Putin has anything whatsoever to do with Biden?

"Biden is weak"?

I notice Putin didn't blunder into an invasion of the USA. Why Not?

I also notice Putin didn't bunder into invading a NATO country where "weak" Biden would be bound by Treaty to respond militarily. Why not?

I also notice Putin has just bought himself god knows how many years of the most unified crippling sanctions ever imposed on a needy, pathetically deficient national economy.

Unified or rather Re-unified thanks to "weak" Biden unifying civilized nations like never before after Trump spent 4 years trying to make Putin's dream of a dismantled Western Alliance come true.

And unless Trump or another Repub weasels into the White House to secretly violate those sanctions against Putin as dutiful Putin Puppet Trump did until he was busted by the Dems in Congress and forced to abide by the agreement, Russia is going to be forehead deep in shit until Putin squeals like a stuck pig.You're surely Jest right? I'll answer point by point.

Invasion of the US. He's already doing it and US now braces for more. Think Cyber security.

Invading a NATO Country: Uncle Joe is a politician, Putin's an Intelligence man. Two different thinking dynamics. Putin knows the smell of blood. Back in 2014 when the US president was preoccupied with releasing terrorist, exchanging 5 terrorist to one traitor, bending over to kiss royal hands or dividing the country, Putin Invaded Crimea. Who was the president then? Yeah him with Biden as VP. Like another poster said, the Orange Man or whatever you want to call him kept Putin at bay. Putin didn't change his stripes but knew the response will be different then. Now he smelled blood again and took the opportunity. Let me introduce an article by Politico nonetheless. A left leaning outlet. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/24/putin-was-playing-biden-all-along-00011555. Note there's a comment about China too as I posted in one of my previous posts.

Sanctions: Here's your answer. There's logic in it if you think it through. https://www.operanewsapp.com/us/en/share/detail?news_id=d7684b9d4b49253c98fc358d0404f0c4&news_entry_id=3869144220223en_us&open_type=transcoded&from=news&request_id=share_request
A reporter correctly said Sanctions will do nothing to Putting himself, he's got whatever he needs. Only Russian people will feel the pain of sanctions.

Unification. The delusion of unification you have is the EU only because it needs the US to cover their ass, in case of WW3. NO other "civilized" nation will throw their hat in the ring with Biden specially after what happened in Afghanistan where not only he screwed up the withdrawal but left his own citizens behind. Because "no one told me"

Soooo. I don't expect you to change your way of thinking and I'm not trying to, nonetheless I gave you the one response you deserve.

I must say that while I read and sometimes enjoy your reports on other threads, in this one we're total opposites. I'm a horse's Head. Joke.

I bet I made you smile!

Canada
02-25-22, 14:49
You're surely Jest right? I'll answer point by point.

Invasion of the US. He's already doing it and US now braces for more. Think Cyber security.

Invading a NATO Country: Uncle Joe is a politician, Putin's an Intelligence man. Two different thinking dynamics. Putin knows the smell of blood. Back in 2014 when the US president was preoccupied with releasing terrorist, exchanging 5 terrorist to one traitor, bending over to kiss royal hands or dividing the country, Putin Invaded Crimea. Who was the president then? Yeah him with Biden as VP. Like another poster said, the Orange Man or whatever you want to call him kept Putin at bay. Putin didn't change his stripes but knew the response will be different then. Now he smelled blood again and took the opportunity. Let me introduce an article by Politico nonetheless. A left leaning outlet. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/24/putin-was-playing-biden-all-along-00011555. Note there's a comment about China too as I posted in one of my previous posts.

Sanctions: The Russian Ambassador yesterday said We've been under sanctions for a very long time. We've learned how to adjust. American people will suffer more than us (inflation). A reporter correctly said Sanctions will do nothing to Putting himself, he's got whatever he needs. Only Russian people will feel the pain of sanctions.Great explanation. I think everyone understands now.

Canada
02-25-22, 14:51
So, come on, trumpers. Who else loves Putin and his war on Ukraine? At least Golfinho here has the guts (not the brains, but that's another story) to tell the whole world about his true feelings. Who's next?I would think everyone in America hates Putin. Especially Biden now. Putin has exposed to the world Biden weakness and incompetence. Yes China knows it too.