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Cali Guy
03-12-22, 19:42
Biden declared war on oil and gas companies day one of his presidency. The people investing in Keystone XL got hammered financially. Why would anyone want to risk drilling with a president who has been openly hostile towards them?

Did the person citing the 9000 permits say it at a climate change conference?

Even with all that is going on, you Dems are so stupid you still keep talking about climate change.

Biden is saying climate change = jobs. Fuck that. Climate change = inflation.

Oil companies are going to destroy the planet but the bioweapons plants in China (and maybe Ukraine) are fine.

The fact that you Dems keep talking climate change, even now, shows how clueless you really are.Not sure if you heard Democrat Manchin blast Biden agencies about stalling all pipeline permits to slow down drilling. Biden claims they are just making sure everything is done properly so delays of a year are the norm. Even democrats are claiming Biden is doing everything possible to hamper the domestic oil and gas industry.

Cali Guy
03-12-22, 19:45
Biden is doing everything possible to stall drilling and pipelines with regulations. Even democrats are seeing it. Yesterday Joe Manchin a democrat blasted the agencies.

Sen. Joe Manchin lit into the Biden appointee overseeing the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) over stalled pipeline permits Friday, demanding that he do his "damn job."

Approving permits to drill more wells and then blocking the pipeline permits to transport the oil to market basically kills the drilling permits. That is Biden way of fooling the dumb socialists and makes headlines for fake news.

There is no pipelines to several areas that are permitted so if you have permits to drill 1000 wells in an area but there are no pipelines you do not drill. You have to be able to transport it to market. USA needs more pipeline capacity and Biden is blocking them with stupid regulations.

Your post is correct to a point. There are many permits not drilled but there is a economical reason for it.You are absolutely correct. I saw Democrat Manchin speech blasting Budennfor delaying all pipelines. No sense giving drilling permits if you aren't going to let the oil companies sell their oil.

PVMonger
03-12-22, 20:42
Did you read what you just posted? Can you see a problem in your statement? I know 4th graders could see how dumb this looks. Pandemic in 2020. Democratic states shut down all their business forcing 9.2 million people out of work. Pandemic eases and democratic states let businesses reopen and 6.5 million people go back to work. There are still 2.7 million people who haven't returned to work. 2.6 million less people working than in 2020 under Trump. No new jobs were created by Biden he can't even get the 2. 7 million to go back to work. Your post proves Biden created no jobs. Thanks for doing all the work proving that you are wrong and all your socialist racist buddies here are wrong about Biden creating jobs. A fourth grader could tell you that.So, you're blaming the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy's screw up of COVID for causing the loss of 9+ million jobs. No, of course you aren't. Even though the Orange Fruitcake completely screwed up the US response to COVID. Just like he screwed up everything else he touched.

Only 6 states have reached pre-pandemic levels. https://www.statista.com/chart/26725/payroll-recovery-covid-19-by-us-state/ Those are Utah, Idaho, Texas, Montana, Georgia and Arizona. Notice that Biden won two of those states in 2020. But, and here's the kicker, if 6 states have reached pre-pandemic employment, that means 44 have not. Guess what? The Mango Mussolini won about half of those states. Why aren't those red states responsible for getting their own employment figures up? Aren't states supposed to do all of that?

But here's the kicker and it is something even 4th graders know, which is one reason you remain ignorant. All of the numbers come from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. The chart came from here https://seidmaninstitute.com/job-growth/year/ But since the data is from BLS, argue it with them. But you won't of course, because you just parrot what FUX "News" tells you to think. The data is clear. The Orange Buffoon created only about 25,000 more jobs (in 3 years) than Biden has in 1 year. Complain all you want but the BLS isn't wrong. You are.

But go ahead, blame Biden because it is what the ignorant do. The rest of the world isn't at pre-pandemic employment levels either. Why don't you blame Biden for that, too.

Canada
03-12-22, 23:50
So the maga party somehow remembers several lines in a 45 page letter written by a now-dead asshat 10 years ago, but can't remember all of the nonsense that happened when the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy occupied (and I use the term loosely) the White House.

If it weren't so ridiculous it would be funny.I remember that guy that they tried to impeach with Clinton fabricated Russia collusion. I remember him because gas was $1.99 a gallon. There was virtually no inflation. There wasn't a war in Ukraine. Yes I remember the good times when he was president.

PVMonger
03-13-22, 00:05
Maybe because 90% of your posts are fake news is why republicans keep calling you on it. Stop posting fake news and Republicans won't continuously embarrass you. Every link you post is from liberal opinions which is not news but fake news. Prove to Repthat you are smarter than that.According to you ignoramuses every site is a "liberal opinion" site except, of course, OANN, FUX "News", InfoWars and the rest of the wingnut propaganda sites.

As long as you continue to display your ignorance, I will continue to call you out as being ignorant.

Again, it is easy to be an ignorant Republican because everything is fake news except the sites that back up your slanted opinion. Breathing your own exhaust again? ROFL.

MarquisdeSade1
03-13-22, 02:09
Biden is doing everything possible to stall drilling and pipelines with regulations. Even democrats are seeing it. Yesterday Joe Manchin a democrat blasted the agencies.

Sen. Joe Manchin lit into the Biden appointee overseeing the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) over stalled pipeline permits Friday, demanding that he do his "damn job."

Approving permits to drill more wells and then blocking the pipeline permits to transport the oil to market basically kills the drilling permits. That is Biden way of fooling the dumb socialists and makes headlines for fake news.

There is no pipelines to several areas that are permitted so if you have permits to drill 1000 wells in an area but there are no pipelines you do not drill. You have to be able to transport it to market. USA needs more pipeline capacity and Biden is blocking them with stupid regulations.

Your post is correct to a point. There are many permits not drilled but there is a economical reason for it.https://amgreatness.com/2022/03/11/oligarchs-want-us-to-power-down-so-they-can-power-up/

MarquisdeSade1
03-13-22, 02:55
You are so right.She belongs in rehab or a nursing home for those with dementia.

https://sputniknews.com/20220312/video-nancy-pelosi-recalls-how-she-spent-50-minutes-with-ukrainian-president-kerensky-1093810266.html

But hey she might have ovaries, she's not a hetero white male, so these racist anti-white male cucks love her!

Axel Heyst
03-13-22, 03:07
Not sure if you heard Democrat Manchin blast Biden agencies about stalling all pipeline permits to slow down drilling. Biden claims they are just making sure everything is done properly so delays of a year are the norm. Even democrats are claiming Biden is doing everything possible to hamper the domestic oil and gas industry.
You are absolutely correct. I saw Democrat Manchin speech blasting Budennfor delaying all pipelines. No sense giving drilling permits if you aren't going to let the oil companies sell their oil.Manchin is a statesman. We are watching greatness here. He reminds me of the senatorial biographies that were honored in JFK's "Profiles in Courage".

The senators Kennedy profiled in his book were:

"John Quincy Adams, from Massachusetts, for breaking away from the Federalist Party.

Daniel Webster, also from Massachusetts, for speaking in favor of the Compromise of 1850.

Thomas Hart Benton, from Missouri, for staying in the Democratic Party despite his opposition to the extension of slavery in the territories.

Sam Houston, from Texas, for speaking against the Kansas–Nebraska Act of 1854, which would have allowed those two states to decide on the slavery question. Houston wanted to uphold the Missouri Compromise. His and Benton's votes against Kansas–Nebraska did just that. This was his most unpopular vote, and he was defeated when running for re-election. Two years later he'd regained enough popularity to be elected Governor of Texas. However, when the state convened in special session and joined the Confederacy, Sam Houston refused to be inaugurated as governor, holding true to his ideal of preserving the Union.

Edmund G. Ross, from Kansas, for voting for acquittal in the Andrew Johnson impeachment trial. As a result of Ross's vote, along with those of six other Republicans, Democrat Johnson's presidency was saved, and the stature of the office was preserved.

Lucius Lamar, from Mississippi, for eulogizing Charles Sumner on the Senate floor and other efforts to mend ties between the North and South during Reconstruction, and for his principled opposition to the Bland–Allison Act to permit free coinage of silver. Lamar returned to Mississippi and gave rousing speeches that eventually led to public approval of his decisions and cemented a legacy of courageousness.

George Norris, from Nebraska, for opposing Joseph Gurney Cannon's autocratic power as Speaker of the House, for speaking out against arming USA Merchant ships during the United States' neutral period in World War I, and for supporting the presidential campaign of Democrat Al Smith, the first Catholic to be a major party nominee.

Robert A. Taft, from Ohio, for criticizing the Nuremberg Trials for trying Nazi war criminals under ex post facto laws. Counter-criticism against Taft's statements was vital to his failure to secure the Republican nomination for president in 1948."

Brave & honest politicians have always been a scarce commodity throughout history, but especially now since the woke Marxist party has taken over the Democratic Party and controls the media. I am sure the Antifa fanatics who post and post and post on this thread consider Senator Manchin a traitor, but in truth, he is a great American Senator.

GDreams
03-13-22, 03:58
Biden declared war on oil and gas companies day one of his presidency. The people investing in Keystone XL got hammered financially. Why would anyone want to risk drilling with a president who has been openly hostile towards them?

Did the person citing the 9000 permits say it at a climate change conference?

Even with all that is going on, you Dems are so stupid you still keep talking about climate change.

Biden is saying climate change = jobs. Fuck that. Climate change = inflation.

Oil companies are going to destroy the planet but the bioweapons plants in China (and maybe Ukraine) are fine.

The fact that you Dems keep talking climate change, even now, shows how clueless you really are.Lets discuss other issues then. Instead of following the same stupid path on a regular basis Republicans look to the future and factor in all the benefits of going all out electric vehicles.

1. The reduction in oil demand will destroy the economies of Russia and the middle east. No military presence in the middle east. Let China and India look after that. In the last 30 years $7 t dollars has been spent on the military in the middle east, enough to buy every American family a Tesla. $7 trillion also buys a lot of infrastructure.

2. Electric cars are easy to automate. The cost of car accidents to the US economy is $500 b a year. Even if this was reduced by half it represents a major saving to consumers. The automation can also be used to better manage traffic in automatically working with traffic management for route selection and speed management.

3. Provide better health outcomes buy reducing pollution in cities.

4. Provide better environmental outcomes in.

3. Environmental costs would be reduced as much less drilling, transportation and storage of hydrocarbons is required. It is estimated that the cost of decommissioning abandoned wells in the US is over $1 trillion. One of those hidden subsidies the industry gets along with the cleanup of supersites from storage facilities, leaky tanks in gas stations etc. If the oil industry had to pay for all these costs with fuel surcharges they would be screaming.

4. Improved grid management in that the vehicle batteries would provide a huge storage capacity for the grid. Cars will be able to manage their charging cycles to keep the grid functioning at maximum capacity when charging when the price is low and when peak demand hits and prices rise they can feed energy back to the grid. The car could be earning money just parked for its 17 hrs per day.

5. 60% of new electricity generation being built currently is renewable energy. That is due to its cost / ROI. But I am happy for it to go to 100% which is likely once the increased gas prices hit peoples electricity bills.

Climate will benefit but there is more than enough justification to push full stream ahead with renewable energy and electric vehicles based on the peripheral factors.

I'm happy for Biden to give DINO Joe his Virginia pipeline. They can included in the BBB legislation. Of far more importance is the electric charging station rollout that the insightful Joe Biden is pushing for so that future oil shocks will impact the recalcitrant driving their ICE cars.

EihTooms
03-13-22, 05:20
https://www.foxnews.com/media/bill-maher-putin-invade-ukraine-biden-trumpMaher's political analysis is almost always total crap. Has been for decades. It's crap because he always skews it to achieve a classic idiotic Bothsider conclusion. Which, as we all know, only exists to help Repubs get elected so they can crash the USA economy and wipe out millions of USA jobs over and over again.

His question is "worth asking" alright and intelligent, well-informed people have accurately answered it; it was because Trump was serving Putin's goals of weakening NATO and the Western Alliances, attacking democracies at home and around the world and plunging the USA economy in the shitter so wonderfully well without Putin having to muss himself at all.

BTW, why isn't Marher asking how Russia's economy and standing in the world are doing under Biden? Or isn't that a question a classic pro Repub Bothsider like Maher thinks is "worth asking"?

MarquisdeSade1
03-13-22, 07:07
Maher's political analysis is almost always total crap. Has been for decades. It's crap because he always skews it to achieve a classic idiotic Bothsider conclusion. Which, as we all know, only exists to help Repubs get elected so they can crash the USA economy and wipe out millions of USA jobs over and over again.

His question is "worth asking" alright and intelligent, well-informed people have accurately answered it; it was because Trump was serving Putin's goals of weakening NATO and the Western Alliances, attacking democracies at home and around the world and plunging the USA economy in the shitter so wonderfully well without Putin having to muss himself at all.

BTW, why isn't Marher asking how Russia's economy and standing in the world are doing under Biden? Or isn't that a question a classic pro Repub Bothsider like Maher thinks is "worth asking"?Stop plagiarizing are. Maddow verbatim and take the pills the nice doctor gave us for you to take.

I'm asking friends in Moscow how things are and they say everything is normal, except no more McDs LOL.

When I visited Moscow McDs is extremely popular espec with young people and probably more expensive than anywhere I've seen in the world LOL.

When I asked guys dressed like they had pretty decent jobs in the strip clubs, (Moscow has a handful of what I would.

Call somewhat "high end") about the sanctions they would laugh with sincerity, sanctions don't deter Putin or he wouldn't be wiping NATOs impotent pawn off the map in the Ukraine.

Just remember Nov 10,2021.

Z!

MarquisdeSade1
03-13-22, 08:09
Maher's political analysis is almost always total crap. Has been for decades. It's crap because he always skews it to achieve a classic idiotic Bothsider conclusion. Which, as we all know, only exists to help Repubs get elected so they can crash the USA economy and wipe out millions of USA jobs over and over again.

His question is "worth asking" alright and intelligent, well-informed people have accurately answered it; it was because Trump was serving Putin's goals of weakening NATO and the Western Alliances, attacking democracies at home and around the world and plunging the USA economy in the shitter so wonderfully well without Putin having to muss himself at all.

BTW, why isn't Marher asking how Russia's economy and standing in the world are doing under Biden? Or isn't that a question a classic pro Repub Bothsider like Maher thinks is "worth asking"?https://www.newsmax.com/politics/white-house-2024-presidential-campaign/2022/03/12/id/1060916/

Canada
03-13-22, 14:39
So, you're blaming the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy's screw up of COVID for causing the loss of 9+ million jobs. No, of course you aren't. Even though the Orange Fruitcake completely screwed up the US response to COVID. Just like he screwed up everything else he touched.

Only 6 states have reached pre-pandemic levels. https://www.statista.com/chart/26725/payroll-recovery-covid-19-by-us-state/ Those are Utah, Idaho, Texas, Montana, Georgia and Arizona. Notice that Biden won two of those states in 2020. But, and here's the kicker, if 6 states have reached pre-pandemic employment, that means 44 have not. Guess what? The Mango Mussolini won about half of those states. Why aren't those red states responsible for getting their own employment figures up? Aren't states supposed to do all of that?

But here's the kicker and it is something even 4th graders know, which is one reason you remain ignorant. All of the numbers come from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. The chart came from here https://seidmaninstitute.com/job-growth/year/ But since the data is from BLS, argue it with them. But you won't of course, because you just parrot what FUX "News" tells you to think. The data is clear. The Orange Buffoon created only about 25,000 more jobs (in 3 years) than Biden has in 1 year. Complain all you want but the BLS isn't wrong. You are..Your previous posts claimed Biden created all these news jobs when in fact he has created none. That is why I shared my last post so that everyone would know the truth. Biden has not created many jobs if any.

Also Biden announced previously that they are ready to resign the Iran deal again and has offered billions to Iran to try to get a new deal done. He also is purchasing about 300,000 barrels of oil a day from Iran. Why is he funding Iran and terrorists is a mystery. Last night Iran fired missiles at the USA consulate in Iraq. Fortunately Biden and Iran missiles didn't cause casualties.

Golfinho
03-13-22, 15:00
Manchin is a statesman. We are watching greatness here.
Brave & honest politicians have always been a scarce commodity throughout history, but especially now since the woke Marxist party has taken over the Democratic Party and controls the media. I am sure the Antifa fanatics who post and post and post on this thread consider Senator Manchin a traitor, but in truth, he is a great American Senator.Manchin is a Statesman people. Let that sink in. Let it sink all the way in.

PVMonger
03-13-22, 15:54
I remember that guy that they tried to impeach with Clinton fabricated Russia collusion. I remember him because gas was $1.99 a gallon. There was virtually no inflation. There wasn't a war in Ukraine. Yes I remember the good times when he was president.Why do keep citing the "collusion" thingy when Mueller didn't even investigate collusion? You could read the Mueller Report but you won't because it contains too many bigly words and says things like (and I paraphrase) "If we could have exonerated the moron, we would have. But we couldn't."

Evidently you, as well as your fellow ignoramuses, have completely forgotten about COVID and how it negatively affected virtually every part of virtually every country on the planet. To wit, you nincompoop, inflation is a worldwide problem, not just an American one. Gasoline prices are up worldwide, not just in the USA. Food prices are up all over the world, not just in the USA.

But sure, keep your head buried in the anatomy of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy. Does it smell good in there?

Cali Guy
03-13-22, 17:22
Lets discuss other issues then. Instead of following the same stupid path on a regular basis Republicans look to the future and factor in all the benefits of going all out electric vehicles.

1. The reduction in oil demand will destroy the economies of Russia and the middle east. No military presence in the middle east. Let China and India look after that. In the last 30 years $7 t dollars has been spent on the military in the middle east, enough to buy every American family a Tesla. $7 trillion also buys a lot of infrastructure.

2. Electric cars are easy to automate. The cost of car accidents to the US economy is $500 b a year. Even if this was reduced by half it represents a major saving to consumers. The automation can also be used to better manage traffic in automatically working with traffic management for route selection and speed management.

3. Provide better health outcomes buy reducing pollution in cities.

4. Provide better environmental outcomes in..That is the future but that is not the current situation now and we will not see it in our lifetime. It will take 30 years to get to 50% electric vehicles. We have to do something now to make it affordable for everyone. Low income people can't even afford a new car let alone an electric car that costs 40% more. And where are we going to get the electricity to power these cars if we shut down gas fired power plants. Electric cars are a slow process. We can't stop drilling today and magically everyone has an electric car. Have some common sense. Biden shutting down drilling now just hurts 80% of the people in USA. Start pipelines now. Drill more wells. Stop the stupid talk of BBB as the USA can't take another hit on inflation. Biden policies have the the American people. He has to start listening to the democrats and Republicans in congress. Not the wacko socialists and far left. It is time for people like you if you really are a democrat to demand Biden change his support of socialism.

PVMonger
03-13-22, 17:34
Manchin is a statesman. We are watching greatness here. He reminds me of the senatorial biographies that were honored in JFK's "Profiles in Courage".

The senators Kennedy profiled in his book were:

"John Quincy Adams, from Massachusetts, for breaking away from the Federalist Party.

Daniel Webster, also from Massachusetts, for speaking in favor of the Compromise of 1850.

Thomas Hart Benton, from Missouri, for staying in the Democratic Party despite his opposition to the extension of slavery in the territories.

Sam Houston, from Texas, for speaking against the KansasNebraska Act of 1854, which would have allowed those two states to decide on the slavery question. Houston wanted to uphold the Missouri Compromise. His and Benton's votes against KansasNebraska did just that. This was his most unpopular vote, and he was defeated when running for re-election. Two years later he'd regained enough popularity to be elected Governor of Texas. However, when the state convened in special session and joined the Confederacy, Sam Houston refused to be inaugurated as governor, holding true to his ideal of preserving the Union.

Edmund G. Ross, from Kansas, for voting for acquittal in the Andrew Johnson impeachment trial. As a result of Ross's vote, along with those of six other Republicans, Democrat Johnson's presidency was saved, and the stature of the office was preserved.."Brave & honest politicians have always been a scarce commodity throughout history" And the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy was neither brave not honest.

I know you'll bloviate about him not being a politician. And you'd be correct because everybody in their right mind could see that he was completely out of his depth. He was usually the dumbest guy in the room (except when he was surrounded by people like you).

Elvis 2008
03-13-22, 19:49
I know you'll bloviate about him not being a politician. And you'd be correct because everybody in their right mind could see that he was completely out of his depth. He was usually the dumbest guy in the room (except when he was surrounded by people like you).Being called dumb by a Democrat is now a compliment.

Calling Trump dumb while nominating and voting for Biden should be criteria for admission to a psych ward.

Elvis 2008
03-13-22, 20:06
It will take 30 years to get to 50% electric vehicles. We have to do something now to make it affordable for everyone. Low income people can't even afford a new car let alone an electric car that costs 40% more. And where are we going to get the electricity to power these cars if we shut down gas fired power plants. Electric cars are a slow process. We can't stop drilling today and magically everyone has an electric car.I agree, and the issue with alternate energy is storage. Until there is a breakthrough in battery technology, you can forget about electric cars being the future. Coal, natural gas, and oil products can be stored. Solar and wind power has to go to a battery. And outside of the nuclear powered subs, so does nuclear. Ethanol and biodiesel are much more likely stopgap products but the land required to produce them as of now is huge. Biodiesel from algae sounded like it had great promise but could not be tapped consistently from what I read.

With better battery technology, alternative energy could be much more cost effective than fossil fuels, but we are not there yet.

Thing is the USA did the shale drilling, and Europe did not so they are stuck supporting Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Venezuela. Those cautioning that supporting of oppressive regimes were drowned out by those screaming we have to save the planet.

It is a good thing all those bombs Russia is dropping are carbon neutral. Cough, cough.

Elvis 2008
03-13-22, 20:13
Evidently you, as well as your fellow ignoramuses, have completely forgotten about COVID and how it negatively affected virtually every part of virtually every country on the planet.How can you blame Trump for Covid and not the Chinese? Why all this mainstream media crap about how evil Putin is and virtually none on Xi whose virus killed a million Americans?

China is great because it paid off Hunter and the Bidens, and the same goes for Ukraine. You know you are a Democrat if you buy that bullshit.

The CCP deserves a lot more hate than Putin does because what they did directly affected us.

MarquisdeSade1
03-13-22, 20:33
Manchin is a Statesman people. Let that sink in. Let it sink all the way in.https://amgreatness.com/2022/03/12/slow-joe-bad-vlad/

Z.

PVMonger
03-13-22, 20:36
Your previous posts claimed Biden created all these news jobs when in fact he has created none. That is why I shared my last post so that everyone would know the truth. Biden has not created many jobs if any.

Also Biden announced previously that they are ready to resign the Iran deal again and has offered billions to Iran to try to get a new deal done. He also is purchasing about 300,000 barrels of oil a day from Iran. Why is he funding Iran and terrorists is a mystery. Last night Iran fired missiles at the USA consulate in Iraq. Fortunately Biden and Iran missiles didn't cause casualties.What would it take for you to learn how to read?

I said nothing in my prior post about "new jobs". Nothing at all. If you knew how to read, you'd know that. But you can't read nor can you understand what you read. For you and every other winger on this board it is just bloviation, blather and blow hot air.

According to your logic, the Mango Mussolini didn't create any new jobs either. In fact, under Donnie, there was probably one open job in the US. Some guy quit to take that job, leaving his job open. A gal quits her job to take the open one, leaving her job to be filled. Ad infinitum.

So, why don't you prove that the Orange Fruitcake actually created new jobs? The only stats you'll be able to find are BLS stats but the BLS just tracks "jobs" not "new jobs". But if you use them, you'll have to accept that the Orange Buffoon "created" 6 million jobs in 3 years pre-pandemic while Biden has "created" about the same number in 1 year. But remember, jobs filled by illegal immigrants at Mar-a-Lago and Donnie's other scam businesses don't count.

ScatManDoo
03-13-22, 20:57
That is the future but that is not the current situation now and we will not see it in our lifetime.It is with your writing like this that makes me doubt you are really from California.

Earlier you wrote that my Orange County education took place in San Diego, showing your confusion with locations in the state.

And you are not seeing the transportation changes all up and down the golden coast.

Every weekend now I see dozens to hundreds of folks on electric vehicles, mostly electric bikes in beach areas.

As I like to ride around on each of my electric bikes.


It will take 30 years to get to 50% electric vehicles. We have to do something now to make it affordable for everyone. Low income people can't even afford a new car let alone an electric car that costs 40% more. Very cheap electric vehicles are being made and sold right now in China.

Due to current highway safety regulation, the most inexpensive models are not imported to the United States.

But electric scooters and electric motorcycles are already displacing their gas powered brethren.

They don't need to sell new for less money because they outcompete in performance and maintenance costs already.

Electric cars too are slowly starting to arrive in the United States. It won't be long till they make up a significant part of vehicle sales.

There is a central California company selling an enclosed electric tricycle currently for around $8,000. It takes advantage of California Vehicle Code 313.5 enacted less than 10 years ago to legalize electric skateboards (motorized skateboards were made illegal in California back in the 1970's when the older boys in my neighborhood got in trouble putting 50 CC motors on the back of their skateboards. Jerry Brown decided that 30 mph skateboards with no brakes was a dangerous hazzard).

To be motorized in California without a need for a driver's license, no vehicle insurance, and no vehicle registration, you just need to build a single person vehicle no longer than 50 inches long with a top speed that does not exceed 20 mph. I expect there will be many competitors selling very cheap vehicles.


And where are we going to get the electricity to power these cars if we shut down gas fired power plants. Electric cars are a slow process. In the United States, we already have around or over 50 million residences hooked up to local utilities. Everyone of them already have adequate supply to charge multiple vehicles. Cali Guy, do you live in a California canyon cave?


Electric cars are a slow process. We can't stop drilling today and magically everyone has an electric car. Have some common sense. Biden shutting down drilling now just hurts 80% of the people in USA. Start pipelines now. Drill more wells. Stop the stupid talk of BBB as the USA can't take another hit on inflation. Biden policies have the the American people. He has to start listening to the democrats and Republicans in congress. Not the wacko socialists and far left. It is time for people like you if you really are a democrat to demand Biden change his support of socialism.The reason oil companies won't drill new holes is simple economics. There just won't be nearly as much demand for oil and gas in the future. No one is eager to pour money into obvious white elephants.

MarquisdeSade1
03-13-22, 23:23
That is the future but that is not the current situation now and we will not see it in our lifetime. It will take 30 years to get to 50% electric vehicles. We have to do something now to make it affordable for everyone. Low income people can't even afford a new car let alone an electric car that costs 40% more. And where are we going to get the electricity to power these cars if we shut down gas fired power plants. Electric cars are a slow process. We can't stop drilling today and magically everyone has an electric car. Have some common sense. Biden shutting down drilling now just hurts 80% of the people in USA. Start pipelines now. Drill more wells. Stop the stupid talk of BBB as the USA can't take another hit on inflation. Biden policies have the the American people. He has to start listening to the democrats and Republicans in congress. Not the wacko socialists and far left. It is time for people like you if you really are a democrat to demand Biden change his support of socialism.https://amgreatness.com/2022/03/08/this-invasion-is-brought-to-you-by-western-environmentalists/

MarquisdeSade1
03-13-22, 23:53
That is the future but that is not the current situation now and we will not see it in our lifetime. It will take 30 years to get to 50% electric vehicles. We have to do something now to make it affordable for everyone. Low income people can't even afford a new car let alone an electric car that costs 40% more. And where are we going to get the electricity to power these cars if we shut down gas fired power plants. Electric cars are a slow process. We can't stop drilling today and magically everyone has an electric car. Have some common sense. Biden shutting down drilling now just hurts 80% of the people in USA. Start pipelines now. Drill more wells. Stop the stupid talk of BBB as the USA can't take another hit on inflation. Biden policies have the the American people. He has to start listening to the democrats and Republicans in congress. Not the wacko socialists and far left. It is time for people like you if you really are a democrat to demand Biden change his support of socialism.https://amgreatness.com/2022/03/10/klaus-schwabs-tower-of-babel/

PVMonger
03-14-22, 00:20
How can you blame Trump for Covid and not the Chinese? Why all this mainstream media crap about how evil Putin is and virtually none on Xi whose virus killed a million Americans?

China is great because it paid off Hunter and the Bidens, and the same goes for Ukraine. You know you are a Democrat if you buy that bullshit.

The CCP deserves a lot more hate than Putin does because what they did directly affected us.I have never blamed the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy for COVID. What I have blamed him for and will continue to blame him for is screwing up the government's response to COVID.

The Orange Buffoon did everything in his power to undermine the US response to COVID. He could have worn a mask and, by example, encouraged his idiot followers to wear one but he didn't. He could have come clean to the American people about how dangerous COVID was but he didn't. He could have said that the government didn't have a clue about testing but instead, he held a big, fancy ceremony on the WH lawn and told the American people that 1,700 Google engineers were working on a testing application. Google the next say said the the Orange Fruitcake was lying through his teeth. He could have told Americans that injecting disinfectant and shoving a lightbulb up your butt didn't cure COVID but he didn't. He could have done a lot of things relative to COVID but he didn't.

But every single Republican takes umbrage at the above paragraph and will call it "fake news". I know you do.

Canada
03-14-22, 00:27
What would it take for you to learn how to read?

I said nothing in my prior post about "new jobs". Nothing at all. If you knew how to read, you'd know that. But you can't read nor can you understand what you read. For you and every other winger on this board it is just bloviation, blather and blow hot air.

According to your logic, the Mango Mussolini didn't create any new jobs either. In fact, under Donnie, there was probably one open job in the US. Some guy quit to take that job, leaving his job open. A gal quits her job to take the open one, leaving her job to be filled. Ad infinitum.

So, why don't you prove that the Orange Fruitcake actually created new jobs? The only stats you'll be able to find are BLS stats but the BLS just tracks "jobs" not "new jobs". But if you use them, you'll have to accept that the Orange Buffoon "created" 6 million jobs in 3 years pre-pandemic while Biden has "created" about the same number in 1 year. But remember, jobs filled by illegal immigrants at Mar-a-Lago and Donnie's other scam businesses don't count.My mistake. I thought that you were disputing the fact that Biden did not create any new jobs. I didn't realize you agreed with me that Biden is still 2.7 million people being employed than pre pandemic Trump presidency. Thanks for clarifying that you agree with my facts.

Canada
03-14-22, 00:30
I agree, and the issue with alternate energy is storage. Until there is a breakthrough in battery technology, you can forget about electric cars being the future. Coal, natural gas, and oil products can be stored. Solar and wind power has to go to a battery. And outside of the nuclear powered subs, so does nuclear. Ethanol and biodiesel are much more likely stopgap products but the land required to produce them as of now is huge. Biodiesel from algae sounded like it had great promise but could not be tapped consistently from what I read.

With better battery technology, alternative energy could be much more cost effective than fossil fuels, but we are not there yet.

Thing is the USA did the shale drilling, and Europe did not so they are stuck supporting Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Venezuela. Those cautioning that supporting of oppressive regimes were drowned out by those screaming we have to save the planet.

It is a good thing all those bombs Russia is dropping are carbon neutral. Cough, cough.Storage is still what is holding green energy back. There virtually is no storage because existing batteries are not yet developed to any consistency.

Canada
03-14-22, 00:37
"Brave & honest politicians have always been a scarce commodity throughout history" And the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy was neither brave not honest.

I know you'll bloviate about him not being a politician. And you'd be correct because everybody in their right mind could see that he was completely out of his depth. He was usually the dumbest guy in the room (except when he was surrounded by people like you).If Trump was dumb and achieved the greatness that he did in the first couple years before Chinese virus hit where does it leave Biden. He is at least twice as dumb as Trump. He needs to be removed from office immediately. If we are going for honesty in politics the socialists should look at the corrupt Biden family. Hunter and his uncle taking millions from China and Ukraine definitely need investigating. Biden family is probably second most corrupt family in politics in USA next to the Clintons who will never be matched.

Canada
03-14-22, 00:48
Why do keep citing the "collusion" thingy when Mueller didn't even investigate collusion? You could read the Mueller Report but you won't because it contains too many bigly words and says things like (and I paraphrase) "If we could have exonerated the moron, we would have. But we couldn't."

Evidently you, as well as your fellow ignoramuses, have completely forgotten about COVID and how it negatively affected virtually every part of virtually every country on the planet. To wit, you nincompoop, inflation is a worldwide problem, not just an American one. Gasoline prices are up worldwide, not just in the USA. Food prices are up all over the world, not just in the USA.

But sure, keep your head buried in the anatomy of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy. Does it smell good in there?Yes Chinese virus affected the world. But gas prices were stable and inflation was under control under Trump presidency. It didn't start to turn until Biden first day of office and his first executive actions that killed pipelines and drilling. Then he botched Afghanistan and the world saw that he was weak and incompetent. Biden reducing domestic energy and buying from countries like Iran and Russia further showed the world that he was not only weak but plain stupid. OPEC took advantage of it and raised prices. Russia took advantage of it and invaded Ukraine. Iran took advantage of it and fired missiles at USA consulate. Biden and the USA have lost the respect of several countries and allies. Biden is to blame. Everyone told you so before the election and they were right. Even the experts did not think Biden would be this bad. You keep saying Trump was one term like it is a bad thing. Do you really think Biden that is 10 times worse that Trump could get a second term?

Cali Guy
03-14-22, 03:56
It is with your writing like this that makes me doubt you are really from California.

Earlier you wrote that my Orange County education took place in San Diego, showing your confusion with locations in the state.

And you are not seeing the transportation changes all up and down the golden coast.

Every weekend now I see dozens to hundreds of folks on electric vehicles, mostly electric bikes in beach areas.

As I like to ride around on each of my electric bikes.

Very cheap electric vehicles are being made and sold right now in China.

Due to current highway safety regulation, the most inexpensive models are not imported to the United States.

But electric scooters and electric motorcycles are already displacing their gas powered brethren.

They don't need to sell new for less money because they outcompete in performance and maintenance costs already.

Electric cars too are slowly starting to arrive in the United States. It won't be long till they make up a significant part of vehicle sales.California probably has more electric vehicles than any other state. But I don't see a dramatic change. When I go down to Newport St in Ocean Beach I see a half dozen electric cars but I see about 100 gas cars too. I would be surprised if electric cars are 5% of the cars on our highways. Most of the houses in this area are older houses. Most do not have a garage and most people park on the street if they live within8 blocks of the beach. Virtually none of the houses in the area have 220 power. So they can't use a fast charger to charge their electric car. With 110 power it takes about 12 hours to get battery charged to 80%. If you just drive to work and are gone 10 hours it may work fine for you. But most people don't even get the same parking spot every night. There are several apartment buildings and I doubt they are going to go to the expense of putting in charging stations and they would have to charge for that. If you look at the cars in our neighborhood a lot of the cars are 10-15 years old and in great condition. People don't have the money to buy electric cars at the prices they are. And in California we have planned rolling blackouts sometimes so if you don't have power you won't be able to get to work the next day. I'm our area we are fortunate and we have stable power but the electric grid in California is very old and goes down a lot. Their is no storage for any electric power for wind or solar yet so very unstable if we increase power usage even 10% let alone 100%.

As for oil companies not wanting to drill I don't believe that. Several oil companies have petitioned Biden and the White House to let them drill. They are petitioning for more drilling and more pipelines. They ask Biden why he is begging Saudi and OPEC for oil when they can solve the energy crisis in USA. And employ thousands of people in USA instead of employing thousands of people in countries that hate us. Why is Biden supporting other countries economies and not supporting the economy of USA?

Do you also know if you order a new Tesla in California it is a 6-9 month delivery? Electric cars are not the answer today. Gas cars will be for the next 5 decades. Don't punish the middle class and low income because they can't afford an electric car.

Paulie97
03-14-22, 05:03
I have never blamed the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy for COVID. Of course you didn't, but true to form Elvis erects a strawman then knocks it down. And since he has been shown time and again what logical fallacies are but keeps habitually using them, it's fair to assume that he's aware of what he is doing but chooses to be dishonest.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman


What I have blamed him for and will continue to blame him for is screwing up the government's response to COVID.

The Orange Buffoon did everything in his power to undermine the US response to COVID. He could have worn a mask and, by example, encouraged his idiot followers to wear one but he didn't. He could have come clean to the American people about how dangerous COVID was but he didn't. He could have said that the government didn't have a clue about testing but instead, he held a big, fancy ceremony on the WH lawn and told the American people that 1,700 Google engineers were working on a testing application. Google the next say said the the Orange Fruitcake was lying through his teeth. He could have told Americans that injecting disinfectant and shoving a lightbulb up your butt didn't cure COVID but he didn't. He could have done a lot of things relative to COVID but he didn't.

But every single Republican takes umbrage at the above paragraph and will call it "fake news". I know you do.Well said. There's a lot to be said for honesty and accuracy, something there is way too little of in monger forums, though that shouldn't surprise any of us.

ScatManDoo
03-14-22, 05:16
Storage is still what is holding green energy back. There virtually is no storage because existing batteries are not yet developed to any consistency.Spoken like an oil company penis relations representative.

They now can (in a single day) install / equip a house with a wall of batteries that can keep it powered for three days. And the technology is only getting better.

If the utility goes down, soon your electric vehicle may soon be an alternate way of delivering electric power.

New batteries supplement and add to existing capacity.

Solar and wind enjoy that same principal that new supply supplements and adds to existing capacity.

The future, for those who want to see it, has less shortages.

ScatManDoo
03-14-22, 05:31
You keep saying Trump was one term like it is a bad thing. Do you really think Biden that is 10 times worse that Trump could get a second term?I am certain that TrumpShit will run again in 2024 because he has never before been able to bring in more sucker money in any one of his prior schemes.

If he runs against Joe Biden or Kamela Harris, it won't matter.

Because TrumpShit's record in office was juvenile and amateurish, and easily shown to be exactly that.

TrumpShit just keeps getting weaker and weaker, but since GOP IQ is so low, Shit is sure to be the next nominee.

TrumpShit will drag the GOP down and practically out in 2024, he is already fucking up the midterms for the GOP.

John Clayton
03-14-22, 05:43
...Virtually none of the houses in the area have 220 power. ...Very very very rare -- probably none in that neighborhood. There may be a some lonely shack of a home out in the bush that has not changed ownership in 60 years that still has a 30 A entry box, but I'm certain that more than 99% of the houses, even old shacks, have at least 60 A /240 V service. That is because all the transformers on the street are all 240 V. For sure, if the house has changed ownership in the last 50 years, it has 240 V service. They may not think they have 240 V, but they do. It's somewhat likely that they don't have the current to support fast charging, but they do have the voltage.

ScatManDoo
03-14-22, 05:54
California probably has more electric vehicles than any other state. But I don't see a dramatic change. When I go down to Newport St in Ocean Bwhen the house was first builteach I see a half dozen electric cars but I see about 100 gas cars too. I would be surprised if electric cars are 5% of the cars on our highways. Most of the houses in this area are older houses. Most do not have a garage and most people park on the street if they live within8 blocks of the beach. Virtually none of the houses in the area have 220 power. So they can't use a fast charger to charge their electric car. With 110 power it takes about 12 hours to get battery charged to 80%..I agree that there are very few electric cars right now as a % basis of personal automobiles, but there are very many electric vehicles of other types all over California.

Where you are flat out lying is about the power capacity of older residential properties.

I lived in a rental garage apartment in a single regular lot on Balboa Island that had a larger 3 bedroom home on the front half of the lot on Coral Avenue.

Both units were built in the 1940's, making it one of the older houses when I lived there during college in the 1970's and 1980's.

The clothes dryer was in the garage below my unit, and used 220. Same for the neighbors.

If 220 power had not been the norm when the house was first built, it would have been easy to upgrade the neighborhood in the 1950's or 1960's because all the electric power was delivered above ground on telephone poles. Rural areas might not get regular upgrades, but city utilities in America get upgrades.

Silly.

ScatManDoo
03-14-22, 07:08
That is the future but that is not the current situation now and we will not see it in our lifetime. It will take 30 years to get to 50% electric vehicles. We have to do something now to make it affordable for everyone. Low income people can't even afford a new car let alone an electric car that costs 40% more.
California probably has more electric vehicles than any other state. But I don't see a dramatic change. When I go down to Newport St in Ocean Beach I see a half dozen electric cars but I see about 100 gas cars too. I would be surprised if electric cars are 5% of the cars on our highways.Tesla is the most successful manufacturer of electric vehicles in the world.

I don't know if their market share is 75% or 25% of worldwide electric cars.

But I do know that in 2021 they built 936,222 electric cars, an 87% increase from the prior year.

I don't believe Tesla will ever make cars that are affordable worldwide, that will be accomplished by many of the thousands of currently existing manufacturers using current advancements in technology. Sub $2,000 electric vehicles will be a reality soon enough.

Tesla made 936,222 electric cars in 2021. Say the whole industry made around 2 million cars in 2021? Plausible?

With adequate demand for the industry's product, 87% future growth seems possible (especially with non-tesla cheapies).

Why would we need 30 years to get to 50% electric vehicles?

Might not understand numbers as well as he thinks he does.

At 87% growth it would not take 30 years.

At 87% growth it would not take 20 years.

At 87% growth it would not even take 10 years.

That's because it would take just five years, at 87% annual growth, to go from 2 million to approaching 30 million units.

30 million cars is actually not 50%. It's more like 100%!

GDreams
03-14-22, 08:42
California probably has more electric vehicles than any other state. But I don't see a dramatic change. When I go down to Newport St in Ocean Beach I see a half dozen electric cars but I see about 100 gas cars too. I would be surprised if electric cars are 5% of the cars on our highways.

As for oil companies not wanting to drill I don't believe that. Several oil companies have petitioned Biden and the White House to let them drill. They are petitioning for more drilling and more pipelines. They ask Biden why he is begging Saudi and OPEC for oil when they can solve the energy crisis in USA. And employ thousands of people in USA instead of employing thousands of people in countries that hate us. Why is Biden supporting other countries economies and not supporting the economy of USA?

Do you also know if you order a new Tesla in California it is a 6-9 month delivery? Electric cars are not the answer today. Gas cars will be for the next 5 decades. Don't punish the middle class and low income because they can't afford an electric car.Electric cars making up 10% of the cars on the road would equate to the entire Russian oil supply. In China they are up to 5%. They have less oil and they are smart enough to know that electric vehicles make them much less strategically sensitive to oil politics.

Increasing oil supply is not the optimum answer as in my lifetime I have been through 4 major cycles in oil supply / price.

Oil companies are not asking Biden anything, they have made corporate decisions not to overcommit to increased drilling. You guys repeat Biden being anti oil incessantly but you just can't present any actual facts on the matter. Biden's approval of permits is 35% higher than Trumps. There is 2 million barrels of spare pipeline capacity so it is not a limiting factor. The factors are banks and financiers lost their shirts when the oil price crashed 2 years ago and their is much more caution for lending to drill. Many investors lost their shirts with bankruptcies during the big oil crash and those that remain have been recapitalizing rather than rushing out to speculate by increasing drilling. There is a general labour shortage that none of you recognize because the labour market hasn't grown due to no immigration and a lot of early retirements. I guess Ukrainian refugees can help with the labour market as they are white and no one has a problem with that.

There are definitely supply issues preventing the ramp up of supply of electric vehicle but this is the longer term solution and should be the focus along with increased supply of renewable energy. EV batteries will benefit the grid. I won't repeat myself, scroll down and read my previous comments. The grid issues are peak demand not supply. For at least 17 hrs a day the grid runs at 60-80% capacity. Batteries are replacing peaker plants as they allow higher utilization of generating capacity throughout the day whilst covering peak demand making the grid more efficient. EV batteries can significantly add to that.

EVs need charging once or twice a week. The power cost is minimal. You don't need to plug in each day so the charging infrastructure can be incrementally added and not some huge up front cost as you make out and cars can rotate through them.

Evs will be the future. There will be legacy ICE cars but at some point they will be deemed to be unfit for road use and the fueling and supply infrastructure will be dismantled.

EihTooms
03-14-22, 11:59
I have never blamed the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy for COVID. What I have blamed him for and will continue to blame him for is screwing up the government's response to COVID.

The Orange Buffoon did everything in his power to undermine the US response to COVID. He could have worn a mask and, by example, encouraged his idiot followers to wear one but he didn't. He could have come clean to the American people about how dangerous COVID was but he didn't. He could have said that the government didn't have a clue about testing but instead, he held a big, fancy ceremony on the WH lawn and told the American people that 1,700 Google engineers were working on a testing application. Google the next say said the the Orange Fruitcake was lying through his teeth. He could have told Americans that injecting disinfectant and shoving a lightbulb up your butt didn't cure COVID but he didn't. He could have done a lot of things relative to COVID but he didn't.

But every single Republican takes umbrage at the above paragraph and will call it "fake news". I know you do.I have never blamed Trump for Covid either. I don't know anyone who has done that. That is just another "Trump was not found guilty of Russian collusion"! Repub misdirection and distraction.

I blame Trump for the Covid Pandemic. It could just as well have been some other deadly virus originating from some other source. The critical factor in whether or not this one or that one develops into a Pandemic is worldwide leadership response to it. And on that count a cowardly, lying, astonishingly stupid and ignorant con man like Trump as the POTUS was made-to-order to accomplish that at the worst possible time.

But it wasn't only his disastrous response to the intel he had gotten about Covid that contributed more than anything else from any other person on the planet to developing it into the Pandemic it became. He had defunded and removed every single one of the Pandemic Prevention and Response team members from the labs and areas in China where these kind of virulent and highly infectious viruses were known to emerge in 2018, against all expert advice not to do something so dangerous and stupid.

It's not like Trump was just an innocent bystander when, darn the luck, this terrible thing happened. He knowingly paved the way and sent out engraved invitations for it to happen.

Now you and I and everyone else knows damn well that if Biden, Obama, Clinton or any other Dem had done what Trump did in 2018, FUX News Channel would remind their viewers of it with every American death due to Trump's Pandemic from the first one in early 2020 to the 900,000+ one today along with every disastrous economic ripple effect of it from the predictable millions of USA jobs wiped out to the consequent supply chain destruction inflation.

And it would be one of the extremely rare times when they were right to do it.

PVMonger
03-14-22, 15:01
My mistake. I thought that you were disputing the fact that Biden did not create any new jobs. I didn't realize you agreed with me that Biden is still 2.7 million people being employed than pre pandemic Trump presidency. Thanks for clarifying that you agree with my facts.Once again you have ignored proving your contention that the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy created any "new jobs". Why? Because you can't. But everybody knows that.

PVMonger
03-14-22, 15:13
If Trump was dumb and achieved the greatness that he did in the first couple years before Chinese virus hit where does it leave Biden. He is at least twice as dumb as Trump. He needs to be removed from office immediately. If we are going for honesty in politics the socialists should look at the corrupt Biden family. Hunter and his uncle taking millions from China and Ukraine definitely need investigating. Biden family is probably second most corrupt family in politics in USA next to the Clintons who will never be matched.What does the title of your post mean "If Trump was dumb"? Trump was dumb. Most of his advisors said it. But I already know that you're going to call it "fake news" because that's what you always do when confronted with facts. Either that or disparage the people who said what they said. Or some equally inane, ignorant rant. https://qz.com/1267508/all-the-people-close-to-donald-trump-who-called-him-an-idiot/.

Name Role at time Insult Occasion.

Rex Tillerson Secretary of State a fucking moron Pentagon meeting.

Gary Cohn Economic advisor dumb as shit Email circulating within the White House.

H are McMaster National security advisor a dope Private dinner.

Tom Barrack Friend and supporter not only crazy, stupid Conversation with friend.

Gary Cohn Economic advisor less a person than a collection of terrible traits Email circulating within the White House.

Gary Cohn Economic advisor an idiot surrounded by clowns Email circulating within the White House.

H are McMaster National security advisor "An idiot {with the intelligence of} a kindergartener" Private dinner.

John Kelly Chief of staff an idiot Conversation with Trump.

Sam Nunberg Adviser he's an idiot Live TV.

Sam Nunberg Adviser this idiot Campaign conversation.

Steve Mnuchin Secretary of Treasury an idiot Unspecified.

Reince Preibus Chief of staff an idiot Unspecified.

The Orange Buffoon completely screwed up the response to COVID. Under the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy, the USA ranked about 12th in the world in per-capita COVID deaths. Under Biden we're down to 18th. Not great by any means but better than under the Mango Mussolini. At least Biden didn't say to inject bleach.

Canada
03-14-22, 17:43
Electric cars making up 10% of the cars on the road would equate to the entire Russian oil supply. In China they are up to 5%. They have less oil and they are smart enough to know that electric vehicles make them much less strategically sensitive to oil politics.

Increasing oil supply is not the optimum answer as in my lifetime I have been through 4 major cycles in oil supply / price.

Oil companies are not asking Biden anything, they have made corporate decisions not to overcommit to increased drilling. You guys repeat Biden being anti oil incessantly but you just can't present any actual facts on the matter. Biden's approval of permits is 35% higher than Trumps. There is 2 million barrels of spare pipeline capacity so it is not a limiting factor. The factors are banks and financiers lost their shirts when the oil price crashed 2 years ago and their is much more caution for lending to drill. Many investors lost their shirts with bankruptcies during the big oil crash and those that remain have been recapitalizing rather than rushing out to speculate by increasing drilling. There is a general labour shortage that none of you recognize because the labour market hasn't grown due to no immigration and a lot of early retirements. I guess Ukrainian refugees can help with the labour market as they are white and no one has a problem with that..Biden in his first day of office cancelled Keystone pipeline and stopped drilling on federal lands which resulted in 1.2 million barrels of oil per day in 2021 from 2020.

There were 4.9 million new energy vehicles at the end of 2021, accounting for 1.75% of all vehicles in Chinese roads, of which, 4 million are all-electric vehicles (81.3% China accounts for 60% of the world's electric vehicle charging stations.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki.

My golf cart needs charged every day so I assume if you drive your car every day that you will need to charge it every day.

Wind and solar are not dependable sources of power yet and won't be for decades. The problem is now. It is difficult to tell the low income that we aren't going to drill more and we are going to have $5 gas for next 25 years while we develop electric cars. Are you suggesting we let these people suffer and get driven into poverty for the good of electric vehicles?

EV may be the future but we don't live in the future. The reality is Biden is pushing more people into poverty than any other president in the past. We need to fill our gas tanks today to get to work not in the future.

Canada
03-14-22, 17:53
Tesla is the most successful manufacturer of electric vehicles in the world.

I don't know if their market share is 75% or 25% of worldwide electric cars.

But I do know that in 2021 they built 936,222 electric cars, an 87% increase from the prior year.

I don't believe Tesla will ever make cars that are affordable worldwide, that will be accomplished by many of the thousands of currently existing manufacturers using current advancements in technology. Sub $2,000 electric vehicles will be a reality soon enough.

Tesla made 936,222 electric cars in 2021. Say the whole industry made around 2 million cars in 2021? Plausible?

With adequate demand for the industry's product, 87% future growth seems possible (especially with non-tesla cheapies).

Why would we need 30 years to get to 50% electric vehicles?

Might not understand numbers as well as he thinks he does.

At 87% growth it would not take 30 years.Tesla recalled almost 50% of their cars manufactured in 2021 for safety reasons. Tesla is the worst performing car in the world. To get mileage they make cars lighter and less safe than normal cars. EV do not have the same safety requirements as gas cars. I prefer to drive a car that is safe.

EihTooms
03-14-22, 18:33
Stop plagiarizing are. Maddow verbatim and take the pills the nice doctor gave us for you to take.

I'm asking friends in Moscow how things are and they say everything is normal, except no more McDs LOL.

When I visited Moscow McDs is extremely popular espec with young people and probably more expensive than anywhere I've seen in the world LOL.

When I asked guys dressed like they had pretty decent jobs in the strip clubs, (Moscow has a handful of what I would.

Call somewhat "high end") about the sanctions they would laugh with sincerity, sanctions don't deter Putin or he wouldn't be wiping NATOs impotent pawn off the map in the Ukraine.Putin's Ukraine invasion will knock the Russian economy back 30 years: experts

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/14/putins-invasion-of-ukraine-will-knock-the-russian-economy-back-by-30-years.html?__source=androidappshare


Vladimir Putins war on Ukraine and the global response to it will drastically alter Russias economic future, setting the country back 30 years, experts say.

As the countrys economy collapses, the exodus of global brands will give rise to a profound shift in how middle-class citizens will make and spend their money.

Experts say the coming period of Russian economic isolation could last at least five years, but more likely will be measured in decades.The right question: Why was Putin forced to do something incredibly stupid and devastating to his country's economy and standing in the world in order to further his mission to destroy democratic alliances and enslave all of humanity in authoritarian dictatorships while America's economy and standing in the world soared and democratic alliances strengthened under Biden but never needed to do that while the American economy crashed, millions of USA jobs were wiped out, its standing in the world plummeted and democratic alliances were weakened under Trump?

Don't hold your breath waiting for Bill Maher and other typically pro Repub electioneering Mainstream Media pundits to consider that might be the real question "worth asking".

EihTooms
03-14-22, 18:57
Putin claimed he was "striving for denazification" of a country with a Jewish president and now he is flirting with invading Poland.

He is obviously working from the same "very stable genius" cognitive impairment as his butt buddy Trump.

"U.S. condemns Russian attack on Ukrainian base near Polish border | Reuters" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-condemns-russian-attack-ukrainian-base-near-polish-border-2022-03-13/.

ScatManDoo
03-14-22, 19:03
Biden in his first day of office cancelled Keystone pipeline and stopped drilling on federal lands which resulted in 1.2 million barrels of oil per day in 2021 from 2020.

There were 4.9 million new energy vehicles at the end of 2021, accounting for 1.75% of all vehicles in Chinese roads, of which, 4 million are all-electric vehicles (81.3% China accounts for 60% of the world's electric vehicle charging stations.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org wiki.

My golf cart needs charged every day so I assume if you drive your car every day that you will need to charge it every day.

Wind and solar are not dependable sources of power yet and won't be for decades. The problem is now. It is difficult to tell the low income that we aren't going to drill more and we are going to have $5 gas for next 25 years while we develop electric cars. Are you suggesting we let these people suffer and get driven into poverty for the good of electric vehicles?

EV may be the future but we don't live in the future. The reality is Biden is pushing more people into poverty than any other president in the past. We need to fill our gas tanks today to get to work not in the future.What BS from another (PR) penis representative from the oil industry.

Cheap electric cars already exist and sell briskly in China and India.

The United States already has in place over 50 million charge stations. Their called homes.

Golfinho
03-14-22, 19:28
Putin's Ukraine invasion will knock the Russian economy back 30 years: experts

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/14/putins-invasion-of-ukraine-will-knock-the-russian-economy-back-by-30-years.html?__source=androidappshare.Russian economy as brought to you by CNBC! That's how you consider the source genius.

Canada
03-14-22, 19:57
What BS from another (PR) penis representative from the oil industry.

Cheap electric cars already exist and sell briskly in China and India.

The United States already has in place over 50 million charge stations. Their called homes.China and India have different safety regulations for new cars than USA. Most of those would not meet minimum USA standards.

Canada
03-14-22, 20:00
What does the title of your post mean "If Trump was dumb"? Trump was dumb. Most of his advisors said it. But I already know that you're going to call it "fake news" because that's what you always do when confronted with facts. Either that or disparage the people who said what they said. Or some equally inane, ignorant rant. https://qz.com/1267508/all-the-people-close-to-donald-trump-who-called-him-an-idiot/.

Name Role at time Insult Occasion.

Rex Tillerson Secretary of State a fucking moron Pentagon meeting.

Gary Cohn Economic advisor dumb as shit Email circulating within the White House.

H are McMaster National security advisor a dope Private dinner.You just proved my point exactly. If you say Trump was dumb then Biden should not be let out on public. Biden actions shows he is 10 times dumber than Trump so I guess you agree Biden should be relieved of the presidency.

Canada
03-14-22, 20:03
Once again you have ignored proving your contention that the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy created any "new jobs". Why? Because you can't. But everybody knows that.The numbers you posted prove Trump created jobs and Biden has not yet gotten people back to work to get back to Trump record numbers. If you don't understand the statistics that you post you should stop posting. You are the one that proved me right. Take credit for it.

Canada
03-14-22, 20:09
I am certain that TrumpShit will run again in 2024 because he has never before been able to bring in more sucker money in any one of his prior schemes.

If he runs against Joe Biden or Kamela Harris, it won't matter.

Because TrumpShit's record in office was juvenile and amateurish, and easily shown to be exactly that.

TrumpShit just keeps getting weaker and weaker, but since GOP IQ is so low, Shit is sure to be the next nominee.

TrumpShit will drag the GOP down and practically out in 2024, he is already fucking up the midterms for the GOP.Anyone who runs against Biden Harris will look amazing. It won't matter if they are democrats or republicans. Biden Harris have set the bar so low. Biden Harris make Trump look like a genius. 68% of Americans say they were better off in Trump presidency than Biden's and every day Biden's is getting worse. World leaders refuse to talks Biden's phone calls. When has that ever happened in USA history? Biden is an embarrassment to Americans and the world. Let's go Brandon.

Canada
03-14-22, 20:16
Spoken like an oil company penis relations representative.

They now can (in a single day) install / equip a house with a wall of batteries that can keep it powered for three days. And the technology is only getting better.

If the utility goes down, soon your electric vehicle may soon be an alternate way of delivering electric power.

New batteries supplement and add to existing capacity.

Solar and wind enjoy that same principal that new supply supplements and adds to existing capacity.

The future, for those who want to see it, has less shortages.Yes you can put solar panels up and get 3 batteries that will give you 3 days of power for about $80,000. I don't see every household being able to afford that. I don't think there is enough lithium available in the world to be able to do that. But what about a factory running 300 lathes? How many batteries does that take? The USA or any country in the world cannot go this or sustain this. Maybe in 30 to 50 years we can achieve half of that but a lot of states can't handle a 10% increase in usage. You are living in fantasyland.

ScatManDoo
03-14-22, 21:28
China and India have different safety regulations for new cars than USA. Most of those would not meet minimum USA standards.70 years ago you could say the same thing about gas powered German and Japanese cars.

Canada, I have a news flash for you.

All humans in the world are not as stupid collectively as the 29 million Americans that call themselves republicans.

Thinking humans adapt.

And don't always join in group fantasies that the sky is falling.

PVMonger
03-14-22, 21:39
The numbers you posted prove Trump created jobs and Biden has not yet gotten people back to work to get back to Trump record numbers. If you don't understand the statistics that you post you should stop posting. You are the one that proved me right. Take credit for it.The "numbers" I posted showed that your boy Donnie created about 25 K more jobs in 3 years than Biden created in the past year. The "numbers" come from the same source. Just because you and the rest of the brain-dead wingers believe the trump numbers and don't believe the Biden numbers doesn't make the trump set of numbers true and the other set of numbers false.

Like I said. Dense.

Paulie97
03-14-22, 21:41
Putin claimed he was "striving for denazification" of a country with a Jewish president and now he is flirting with invading Poland.

He is obviously working from the same "very stable genius" cognitive impairment as his butt buddy Trump.

"U.S. condemns Russian attack on Ukrainian base near Polish border | Reuters" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-condemns-russian-attack-ukrainian-base-near-polish-border-2022-03-13/.And we currently have the Alt Right in the US and their brothers in Europe who've had their heads up Putin's butt all along, spreading Russian propaganda. This would include the Qanon inspired horse manure of some USA managed chemical labs in Ukraine that the invasion was launched to dismantle. Not surprisingly Cocksucker Carlson is on board, but make no mistake about these people are not of us, and are traitors in a time of war. P.S. Speaking of Fox News, they are all on board with censorship. I've invested considerable time there in the comments section effectively countering fallacious arguments, all without any rule violations and the posts are quickly deleted. This while they whine about "big tech" censorship.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/qanon-ukraine-biolabs-russian-propaganda-efforts-boosted-us-far-right-rcna19392

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/25/tweets/there-are-no-us-run-biolabs-ukraine-contrary-socia/

PVMonger
03-14-22, 21:46
Tesla recalled almost 50% of their cars manufactured in 2021 for safety reasons. Tesla is the worst performing car in the world. To get mileage they make cars lighter and less safe than normal cars. EV do not have the same safety requirements as gas cars. I prefer to drive a car that is safe.EVs must meet the same safety standards as gas-powered vehicles. The EPA says: "All light duty cars and trucks sold in the United States must meet the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. To meet these standards, vehicles must undergo an extensive, long-established testing process, regardless of whether the vehicle operates on gasoline or electricity. Separately, EV battery packs must meet their own testing standards. Moreover, EVs are designed with additional safety features that shut down the electrical system when they detect a collision or short circuit. " https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths.

So, in other words, you lied. Again. For at least the 10,000th time. Soon you will have told as many lies as the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy. But everybody knows you'll call this "fake news" because FUX "News" told you differently.

Paulie97
03-14-22, 21:46
I'm asking friends in Moscow how things are and they say everything is normal, except no more McDs LOL.

When I visited Moscow McDs is extremely popular espec with young people and probably more expensive than anywhere I've seen in the world LOL.

When I asked guys dressed like they had pretty decent jobs in the strip clubs, (Moscow has a handful of what I would.Now that's what ya call some fine evidence, I'm telling you. LOL Rest assured this guy has never been to Moscow, nor does he know anyone there.

Canada
03-14-22, 22:46
EVs must meet the same safety standards as gas-powered vehicles. The EPA says: "All light duty cars and trucks sold in the United States must meet the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. To meet these standards, vehicles must undergo an extensive, long-established testing process, regardless of whether the vehicle operates on gasoline or electricity. Separately, EV battery packs must meet their own testing standards. Moreover, EVs are designed with additional safety features that shut down the electrical system when they detect a collision or short circuit. " https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths.

So, in other words, you lied. Again. For at least the 10,000th time. Soon you will have told as many lies as the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy. But everybody knows you'll call this "fake news" because FUX "News" told you differently.You won't see these cars in the USA.

Canada
03-14-22, 22:58
Biden policies are killing the economy. Inflation is at record levels. Gas prices highest since 2010 Obama presidency. Border crises still happening with criminal, terrorists and drugs coming freely into USA. World leaders refusing to take Biden calls. Our Allie's losing faith of USA under Biden. And what are the fools talking about? You guessed it Trump, Trump and more Trump. Lies about Trump doesn't lower gas prices. Half the democrats are smart enough to know that gas was $1. 99 under Trump so Biden blames Putin. What a joke. Blaming Trump and Putin does not help the poor. Blaming Trump and Putin for Biden incompetence doesn't help our economy. How much longer are the fools, Biden included going to try and push this agenda? Biden is counting on his followers to continue to be stupid and the posts here seem to prove his strategy is working. Some democrats are getting smarter. None of the socialists are getting any smarter. Now on this thread we only have Republicans and Socialists. Not a democrat to be seen here.

MarquisdeSade1
03-14-22, 23:12
Putin's Ukraine invasion will knock the Russian economy back 30 years: experts

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/14/putins-invasion-of-ukraine-will-knock-the-russian-economy-back-by-30-years.html?__source=androidappshare

The right question: Why was Putin forced to do something incredibly stupid and devastating to his country's economy and standing in the world in order to further his mission to destroy democratic alliances and enslave all of humanity in authoritarian dictatorships while America's economy and standing in the world soared and democratic alliances strengthened under Biden but never needed to do that while the American economy crashed, millions of USA jobs were wiped out, its standing in the world plummeted and democratic alliances were weakened under Trump?

Don't hold your breath waiting for Bill Maher and other typically pro Repub electioneering Mainstream Media pundits to consider that might be the real question "worth asking".https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/tucker-the-pentagons-ukraine-biolab-talking-points-are-an-utter-lie

ScatManDoo
03-14-22, 23:31
Tesla recalled almost 50% of their cars manufactured in 2021 for safety reasons. Tesla is the worst performing car in the world. To get mileage they make cars lighter and less safe than normal cars. EV do not have the same safety requirements as gas cars. I prefer to drive a car that is safe.

EVs must meet the same safety standards as gas-powered vehicles. The EPA says: "All light duty cars and trucks sold in the United States must meet the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. To meet these standards, vehicles must undergo an extensive, long-established testing process, regardless of whether the vehicle operates on gasoline or electricity. Separately, EV battery packs must meet their own testing standards. Moreover, EVs are designed with additional safety features that shut down the electrical system when they detect a collision or short circuit. " https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths.

So, in other words, you lied. Again. For at least the 10,000th time. Soon you will have told as many lies as the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy. But everybody knows you'll call this "fake news" because FUX "News" told you differently.Tesla is recalling nearly 579,000 vehicles in the US because a "Boombox" function can play sounds over an external speaker and obscure audible warnings for pedestrians.

The cars and SUVs have what Tesla calls a "Boombox" function that allows drivers to play sounds while the vehicles are moving, according to data on the the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration website Thursday. This violates federal safety standards that require pedestrian warning noises for electric cars, which make little noise when in motion, the agency says.

The problem will be repaired with an over-the-air software update that will disable "Boombox," in drive, reverse or neutral, the agency said.

"The Boombox functionality allows a customer to play preset or custom sounds through the PWS (pedestrian warning system) external speaker when the vehicle is parked or in motion," NHTSA says in documents posted on its website. "While Boombox and the pedestrian alert sound are mutually exclusive sounds, sounds emitted using Boombox could be construed to obscure or prevent the PWS from complying" with safety standards, the agency wrote.

In summary, it was as if NHTSA said "No No No, no megaphones for Tesla owners. ". Requiring and regulating what sounds an electric car can emit proves Canada's fear that the e-versions are far more dangerous than gas powered cars. HaHaHaHaHa.

Paulie97
03-14-22, 23:41
Cockersucker Carlson's latest conspiracy theory pushing antics are a big hit in Russian and Chinese media. Ronald Reagan is turning in his grave. Some of his policies were questionable, but he knew evil when he saw it. Again, the Alt Right with their treasonous nonsense are not of us.

Golfinho
03-15-22, 00:31
And we currently have the USA managed chemical labs in Ukraine that the invasion was launched to dismantle. Not surprisingly Cocksucker Carlson is on board, but make no mistake about these people are not of us, and are traitors in a time of war. Traitors? Is the USA in a war? Is it one of those wars like Congress used to declare once upon a time, or is it one of those, you know, like wars against whatever? Is there a link you could share maybe like letting us know when the USA got itself into this war.

GDreams
03-15-22, 01:07
Biden in his first day of office cancelled Keystone pipeline and stopped drilling on federal lands which resulted in 1.2 million barrels of oil per day in 2021 from 2020.

There were 4.9 million new energy vehicles at the end of 2021, accounting for 1.75% of all vehicles in Chinese roads, of which, 4 million are all-electric vehicles (81.3% China accounts for 60% of the world's electric vehicle charging stations.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org wiki.

My golf cart needs charged every day so I assume if you drive your car every day that you will need to charge it every day.

Wind and solar are not dependable sources of power yet and won't be for decades. The problem is now. It is difficult to tell the low income that we aren't going to drill more and we are going to have $5 gas for next 25 years while we develop electric cars. Are you suggesting we let these people suffer and get driven into poverty for the good of electric vehicles?Keystone would no be operational now, but fortunately the rail transport option is still delivering Canadian crude at the same rate as it always has been. Keystone was just like Nord2 just trying to bypass a different route of delivery.

Biden did not stop drilling at all. He paused the grant of new oil leases on Federal lands. He paused it for 2 months. This land would not be drilled for at least 5 years as it requires exploration, permitting, infrastructure and investment review before going into production. Since that time Biden has allowed bidding on that federal land so it is nonsense to state that this has any impact on current production. In the meantime oil production has recovered dramatically from the Trump disaster years and is forecast to rise to record levels next year even without addition of new pipelines and the imaginary forcefield of regulation you wingers keep raising. Personally I don't mind oil prices being so high if it stops people buying vehicles that are way bigger and inefficient that what is required to suit their egos. We have seen oil shocks before and people adjusted to smaller more efficient vehicles, now there is an alternative that permanently will remove oil demand.

Your golf cart does not have a 90 kW battery.

Wind and solar are dependable but have restrictions imposed by mother nature. Fortunately in the current situation there are options available to manage the grid such that renewables can be accommodated. One of the future options to manage the grid is car batteries as they can be used to smooth the demand and supply of power to the grid.

No one is stopping drilling. Its one of those free market thingys you wingers like to talk about. I am saying that the government should be incentivizing the roll out of EVs and renewable energy so that future generations will not be held to ransom by the politics of despotic oil dictators. No matter what you say oil goes through booms and busts and adds unnecessary risks to the world economic order. I would much prefer to cut military expenditure by $200 b a year and remove forces from the middle east and use that money to provide energy and vehicles that will insulate the country from future shocks. This way the poor people won't be paying any extra.

EihTooms
03-15-22, 01:55
Russian economy as brought to you by CNBC! That's how you consider the source genius.Yes, several former FUX News Channel staffers have revealed the truth about the unpatriotic mindset and agenda of the wingers' favorite and often only "news" source. Unfortunately, by then it's not only too late but the sudden newly inspired truth-tellers are telling the truth about the FUX News Channel lies on real news sources, which FUX News Channel's loyal viewers either never see or never believe.

A mythical patriotic FUX News Channel staffer could have and should have been holding up such a "they tell you lies here" sign behind the most popular FUX News Channel so-called news anchors since 1996.

Anti-war protester interrupts Russian state TV with 'NO WAR' sign

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/anti-war-protester-interrupts-russian-state-tv-with-no-war-sign-1.5818951


Stop the war. Do not believe propaganda. They tell you lies here, read the rest of the sign in Russian.Leaked Kremlin Memo to Russian Media: It Is Essential to Feature Tucker Carlson

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/exclusive-kremlin-putin-russia-ukraine-war-memo-tucker-carlson-fox/

Tucker Carlsons history of pro-Kremlin, anti-Ukraine propaganda.
Tucker Carlsons dizzying mess of spin and deflection on Russias war in Ukraine

https://www.mediamatters.org/russias-invasion-ukraine/tucker-carlsons-history-pro-kremlin-anti-ukraine-propaganda

EihTooms
03-15-22, 02:11
Now that's what ya call some fine evidence, I'm telling you. LOL Rest assured this guy has never been to Moscow, nor does he know anyone there.It is a certainty that he does not have friends like the brave truth-tellers below in Moscow. Unless, of course, he and they are all admitting this is totally "normal" behavior for his beloved Putin's regime and that's why Putin's leadership style is the envy of every Trumpster / Repub in America:

This is how quickly Russian police clamp down on free speech as war rages in Ukraine: Protester is dragged away just three seconds after holding up sign in Moscow.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10610225/Protester-dragged-away-just-THREE-SECONDS-holding-sign-Moscow.html


A lone protestor in Manezhnaya Square showed Putin's approach to free speech.

She held up a tiny placard which read 'two words' and was arrested on the spot.

A horde of policemen clad in riot gear grabbed the woman in a matter of seconds.

Another woman was arrested even as she tried to voice support for Putin's war.

It comes as the Kremlin introduced a blanket social media ban and censored Western and independent media sites as it scrambles to control the narrative.

Elvis 2008
03-15-22, 04:47
I have never blamed the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy for COVID. What I have blamed him for and will continue to blame him for is screwing up the government's response to COVID.

The Orange Buffoon did everything in his power to undermine the US response to COVID. He could have worn a mask and, by example, encouraged his idiot followers to wear one but he didn't. He could have come clean to the American people about how dangerous COVID was but he didn't. He could have said that the government didn't have a clue about testing but instead, he held a big, fancy ceremony on the WH lawn and told the American people that 1,700 Google engineers were working on a testing application. Google the next say said the the Orange Fruitcake was lying through his teeth. He could have told Americans that injecting disinfectant and shoving a lightbulb up your butt didn't cure COVID but he didn't. He could have done a lot of things relative to COVID but he didn't.

But every single Republican takes umbrage at the above paragraph and will call it "fake news". I know you do.No, it is irrelevant news. You want me to go over all the stupid shit Democrats did with the pandemic. Paulie97 AKA Governor Cuomo was the Democrat example of "real leadership". And the parade in China town? Banning flights from China being racist? Do I need to say more about all the stupid shit Democrats said and did?

And Fauci with his no mask, one mask, two masks policy gets a total pass from you clowns.

And there were more deaths under Biden than Trump, but you all are back to this tired song and dance. Apparently, you have not seen that Biden is negatively polling on Covid.

If you were real Americans (and you are not. You are Democrats before American), you would put the blame where it belongs, on China. But with you guys, it is a never ending story of all things good being Democrat and all bad things being Republican and in so doing this, you let everyone else off the hook and in this case, it is China.

You guys can spin it all you want, but your record is worse on Covid than Trump's was, and it is not even close. This constant blaming (red states are worse than blue and the Republicans are not getting vaxxed crap) was ridiculous. Now the truth about the vaccines is slowly creeping out and they were not all that safe and all that great. The vaccines did almost nothing with omicron. The vaccines did fuck up women's periods. It did cause issues with pregnant women.

You Dems even banned people from talking about where the virus came from because you so badly wanted to blame the pandemic on Trump.

PVM, are you still so brain dead that you think Coronavirus came from nature and not a biolab?

I bet you do not have the balls to answer that question.

It was a fucking cold virus. Who was president had nothing to do with anything, and the data shows that.

Elvis 2008
03-15-22, 04:57
Yes you can put solar panels up and get 3 batteries that will give you 3 days of power for about $80,000. I don't see every household being able to afford that. I don't think there is enough lithium available in the world to be able to do that. But what about a factory running 300 lathes? How many batteries does that take? The USA or any country in the world cannot go this or sustain this. Maybe in 30 to 50 years we can achieve half of that but a lot of states can't handle a 10% increase in usage. You are living in fantasyland.You are right. There is not enough lithium in the world or other means to store it. With new technology, who knows, but we are not there now.

On top of that, what do you do when the sun goes down? Well, you have your batteries for three days right? And if the sun is blocked for more than 3 days?

I remember people in California giving us here in Texas shit when we went without power for 2 days. The reason for that was that the wind turbines froze. The nuclear kept going and so did the natural gas. I had electricity for only 12 out of 24 hours for 2 days. It sucked because of the cold, but it was 2 days.

Point is alternate energy fails in extreme conditions typically when you need it most. What kept people warm was going to their cars and using gasoline to warm up and portable propane heaters. There is no storage alternative as good as fossil fuels. Period.

That Dems do not get that is unsurprising to me. Hell, they are going to endure even more and more power outages in the name of climate change.

MarquisdeSade1
03-15-22, 05:56
Biden policies are killing the economy. Inflation is at record levels. Gas prices highest since 2010 Obama presidency. Border crises still happening with criminal, terrorists and drugs coming freely into USA. World leaders refusing to take Biden calls. Our Allie's losing faith of USA under Biden. And what are the fools talking about? You guessed it Trump, Trump and more Trump. Lies about Trump doesn't lower gas prices. Half the democrats are smart enough to know that gas was $1. 99 under Trump so Biden blames Putin. What a joke. Blaming Trump and Putin does not help the poor. Blaming Trump and Putin for Biden incompetence doesn't help our economy. How much longer are the fools, Biden included going to try and push this agenda? Biden is counting on his followers to continue to be stupid and the posts here seem to prove his strategy is working. Some democrats are getting smarter. None of the socialists are getting any smarter. Now on this thread we only have Republicans and Socialists. Not a democrat to be seen here.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/14/nyregion/yonkers-hate-crime-anti-asian-attack.html

Trump / Carlson 2024.

Z.

EihTooms
03-15-22, 07:27
https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/tucker-the-pentagons-ukraine-biolab-talking-points-are-an-utter-lieThe USA funds bio-research labs all over the place.

Some were the ones Trump defunded and pulled out all of our Pandemic Prevention and Response teams from in 2018 against all expert advice not to do something so dangerous and stupid, just in time for a highly infectious and deadly airborne novel coronavirus to emerge in or near one of them and leave the world bare ass naked against Preventing a Pandemic of it or quickly and efficiently Responding to it in order to significantly reduce its spread.

You heard about that, right?

Where's the bio chemical "weapons" part that Putin's favorite fake news anchor on Putin's favorite fake USA news channel was blathering about before?

MarquisdeSade1
03-15-22, 07:38
Putin claimed he was "striving for denazification" of a country with a Jewish president and now he is flirting with invading Poland.

He is obviously working from the same "very stable genius" cognitive impairment as his butt buddy Trump.

"U.S. condemns Russian attack on Ukrainian base near Polish border | Reuters" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-condemns-russian-attack-ukrainian-base-near-polish-border-2022-03-13/.https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ukraine-russia-negotiations-peace-deal/2022/03/11/id/1060864/?fbclid=IwAR1nausyBCw9voUCOkv5xHV_FZ-cw2oV82axjjr7re1wYBXU0KTsgrbwkCs

PVMonger
03-15-22, 15:35
You won't see these cars in the USA.In one post, you say "EV do not have the same safety requirements as gas cars. " When I pointed out that you lied and supplied a quote from the EPA and provided the EPA site as reference, you then proved what I said by saying that Chinese EV's don't meet EPA standards and because of that "You won't see these cars in the USA.`"

Did you lie initially? Yep? Did you compound it? Yep.

You are a prime example of the dumbing down of the Republican party.

PVMonger
03-15-22, 15:45
No, it is irrelevant news. You want me to go over all the stupid shit Democrats did with the pandemic. Paulie97 AKA Governor Cuomo was the Democrat example of "real leadership". And the parade in China town? Banning flights from China being racist? Do I need to say more about all the stupid shit Democrats said and did?

And Fauci with his no mask, one mask, two masks policy gets a total pass from you clowns.

And there were more deaths under Biden than Trump, but you all are back to this tired song and dance. Apparently, you have not seen that Biden is negatively polling on Covid.

If you were real Americans (and you are not. You are Democrats before American), you would put the blame where it belongs, on China. But with you guys, it is a never ending story of all things good being Democrat and all bad things being Republican and in so doing this, you let everyone else off the hook and in this case, it is China.

You guys can spin it all you want, but your record is worse on Covid than Trump's was, and it is not even close. This constant blaming (red states are worse than blue and the Republicans are not getting vaxxed crap) was ridiculous. Now the truth about the vaccines is slowly creeping out and they were not all that safe and all that great. The vaccines did almost nothing with omicron. The vaccines did fuck up women's periods. It did cause issues with pregnant women.Calling everything that the Orange Buffoon didn't do re: COVID as "irrelevant news" is the height of stupidity.

As to where COVID came from, nobody has a definitive answer. Conspiracy theorists say that they can prove it came from a biolab. Different conspiracy theorists also say that they can prove that the 2020 election was stolen. Still other conspiracy theorists say that they can prove that the moon landings never happened. I can also prove (but with absolute certainty) that the battery-powered watch (without a battery) in my dresser drawer also shows the correct time twice per day.

I have demonstrable proof that 74+ million Republican voters (fewer now because so many died of COVID trying to 'own the libs') ae idiots.

GDreams
03-15-22, 15:49
You are right. There is not enough lithium in the world or other means to store it. With new technology, who knows, but we are not there now.

On top of that, what do you do when the sun goes down? Well, you have your batteries for three days right? And if the sun is blocked for more than 3 days?

I remember people in California giving us here in Texas shit when we went without power for 2 days. The reason for that was that the wind turbines froze. The nuclear kept going and so did the natural gas. I had electricity for only 12 out of 24 hours for 2 days. It sucked because of the cold, but it was 2 days.

Point is alternate energy fails in extreme conditions typically when you need it most. What kept people warm was going to their cars and using gasoline to warm up and portable propane heaters. There is no storage alternative as good as fossil fuels. Period.

That Dems do not get that is unsurprising to me. Hell, they are going to endure even more and more power outages in the name of climate change.There is no shortage of lithium in the world. There is a limit on battery fabrication factories but that is rapidly expanding.

There is enough generating capacity to meet charging requirements. No one is claiming it all needs to come from renewable energy though this will be preferred in the long term.

Texas failure was due to lack of gas when blackouts stopped the gas pumping equipment. Wind turbines operate in freezing condition if you spend the money to provide deicing but not those cheapo Texans. An electric vehicle with a 90 kw battery though would easy meet requirements for a house for 4 days.

Canada
03-15-22, 17:40
Keystone would no be operational now, but fortunately the rail transport option is still delivering Canadian crude at the same rate as it always has been. Keystone was just like Nord2 just trying to bypass a different route of delivery.

Biden did not stop drilling at all. He paused the grant of new oil leases on Federal lands. He paused it for 2 months. This land would not be drilled for at least 5 years as it requires exploration, permitting, infrastructure and investment review before going into production. Since that time Biden has allowed bidding on that federal land so it is nonsense to state that this has any impact on current production. In the meantime oil production has recovered dramatically from the Trump disaster years and is forecast to rise to record levels next year even without addition of new pipelines and the imaginary forcefield of regulation you wingers keep raising. Personally I don't mind oil prices being so high if it stops people buying vehicles that are way bigger and inefficient that what is required to suit their egos. We have seen oil shocks before and people adjusted to smaller more efficient vehicles, now there is an alternative that permanently will remove oil demand.

Your golf cart does not have a 90 kW battery.

Wind and solar are dependable but have restrictions imposed by mother nature. Fortunately in the current situation there are options available to manage the grid such that renewables can be accommodated. One of the future options to manage the grid is car batteries as they can be used to smooth the demand and supply of power to the grid..15 months after Biden cancelled drilling on federal lands he still has not changed it. These federal lands had already been leased and permitted. Keystone pipeline was cancelled and Biden regulations are making it virtually impossible for any new pipeline. Democrats and republicans both went to Biden last week to try to get more drilling and pipelines started. Biden refuses to budge and goes to our enemies begging for more oil. We can't increase our production without new drilling if we drill we need new pipelines to get it to refineries. Keystone would be operational now and we could be delivering 800,000 more barrels of oil a day from Canada. If he reinstated it keystone could be operating by next May.

There is no one dumb enough to think that EV's are going to reduce our oil dependence significantly for at least 10 to 30 years.

We may as well cut our military with our current president because we don't have a Commander in Chief. We have a puppet trying to sweet talk our enemies. We are a weakened country and in only 15 months have lost the respect of our allies and most of the free world. Yes Biden is liked by several countries but unfortunately these countries are all enemies of USA. We should be ramping up domestic drilling and oil production rather than being hostage to our enemies but Biden priorities are to fund our enemies economies along with funding terrorist countries.

EihTooms
03-15-22, 17:41
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ukraine-russia-negotiations-peace-deal/2022/03/11/id/1060864/?fbclid=IwAR1nausyBCw9voUCOkv5xHV_FZ-cw2oV82axjjr7re1wYBXU0KTsgrbwkCsWhy doesn't Zelensky just surrender to Putin? I would say it is because Ukraine had a taste of liberal democracy and much prefers it to the enslavement to an authoritarian dictator, even though the latter is much preferred by Putin and his like-minded comrades in the USA Repub Party.

Also, the longer Putin's astonishingly stupid war goes on, the worse it is for Russia's economy, currency, standing in the world and the stronger alliances among liberal democracies become.

So that makes surrendering to Putin a poor option.

I wish Trump hadn't done that for all 4 years of his presidency. To whatever extent his single-minded focus on surrendering to Putin, Xi, Kim, the Taliban, etc, distracted him from, you know, focusing on preventing and responding intelligently to the threat of worldwide economy-destroying Pandemics, wiping out millions upon millions of USA jobs, mass murdering almost a million Americans so far and all that, it is obvious the Trump strategy of surrendering to America's adversaries and enemies of American values was also clearly a poor option.

As witnessed by the horrific conditions and across the board results Trump produced and handed to Biden to fix in 2021.

ScatManDoo
03-15-22, 17:41
It was a fucking cold virus. Who was president had nothing to do with anything, and the data shows that.Common sense tells all of us that Donald Trump was not up to the task of dealing effectively with the corona virus threat.

Barack Obama already had a winning record with prior viral threats that he took down.

EihTooms
03-15-22, 17:54
Calling everything that the Orange Buffoon didn't do re: COVID as "irrelevant news" is the height of stupidity.

As to where COVID came from, nobody has a definitive answer. Conspiracy theorists say that they can prove it came from a biolab. Different conspiracy theorists also say that they can prove that the 2020 election was stolen. Still other conspiracy theorists say that they can prove that the moon landings never happened. I can also prove (but with absolute certainty) that the battery-powered watch (without a battery) in my dresser drawer also shows the correct time twice per day.

I have demonstrable proof that 74+ million Republican voters (fewer now because so many died of COVID trying to 'own the libs') ae idiots.A classic MAGA Trumpster explains Covid to us in the link below every bit as clearly and lucidly as the wingers here explain how Biden caused the price of a gallon of gasoline to exceed $4, which, adjusted for inflation, it has done umpteen times over the past several decades under Repubs and Dems:

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGoodLiars/status/1503470345436684289

Paulie97
03-15-22, 18:37
Why doesn't Zelensky just surrender to Putin? I would say it is because Ukraine had a taste of liberal democracy and much prefers it to the enslavement to an authoritarian dictator, even though the latter is much preferred by Putin and his like-minded comrades in the USA Repub Party.

Also, the longer Putin's astonishingly stupid war goes on, the worse it is for Russia's economy, currency, standing in the world and the stronger alliances among liberal democracies become.

So that makes surrendering to Putin a poor option.

I wish Trump hadn't done that for all 4 years of his presidency. To whatever extent his single-minded focus on surrendering to Putin, Xi, Kim, the Taliban, etc, distracted him from, you know, focusing on preventing and responding intelligently to the threat of worldwide economy-destroying Pandemics, wiping out millions upon millions of USA jobs, mass murdering almost a million Americans so far and all that, it is obvious the Trump strategy of surrendering to America's adversaries and enemies of American values was also clearly a poor option..You just comprehensively owned the Marquis. One thing I give him credit for though, he often includes links to his sources, Breitbart, Infowars, and in this case, Newsmax. His comrades here are too embarrassed.

Paulie97
03-15-22, 19:16
Yes, several former FUX News Channel staffers have revealed the truth about the unpatriotic mindset and agenda of the wingers' favorite and often only "news" source. Unfortunately, by then it's not only too late but the sudden newly inspired truth-tellers are telling the truth about the FUX News Channel lies on real news sources, which FUX News Channel's loyal viewers either never see or never believe.

A mythical patriotic FUX News Channel staffer could have and should have been holding up such a "they tell you lies here" sign behind the most popular FUX News Channel so-called news anchors since 1996.

Anti-war protester interrupts Russian state TV with 'NO WAR' sign

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/anti-war-protester-interrupts-russian-state-tv-with-no-war-sign-1.5818951..Yep, Cocksucker Carlson and his treasonous sheeple. Again Ronald Reagan, the former standard bearer for American conservatives is turning in his grave.

PVMonger
03-15-22, 21:07
Most of our resident wingers are typing to convince us that Biden's oil strategy is prohibiting oil companies from drilling.

Evidently, they believe that US oil companies are extremely stupid. Because why would oil companies, if regulations are prohibiting them from drilling, increase the number of oil rigs in production. After all, if regulations are the problem, the number of oil rigs would decline, right? Or at least stagnate.

Yet, here are figures from an industry publication (American Oil and Gas Reporter) that shows the number of oil rigs increasing from 378 when President Biden took office to 663 as of 3/11/22. That's about a 75% increase. Yep, those oil industry execs are really stupid. https://www.aogr.com/web-exclusives/us-rig-count/2022.

PVMonger
03-15-22, 21:24
{SNIP}It was a fucking cold virus. {SNIP}So now you are a scientist?

The common cold is a "rhinovirus". Virtually nobody dies of a rhinovirus. FYI, most people catch the common cold several times per year.

Influenza is a different virus and it kills about 10 K to 50 K people every year in the USA.

COVID is a "coronavirus". It is also a new, never been seen before "coronavirus". COVID killed 500+K in the first year in the US.

But sure, COVID is a cold virus. You win the "stupidest internet comment of the decade" award.

MarquisdeSade1
03-15-22, 22:25
Why doesn't Zelensky just surrender to Putin? I would say it is because Ukraine had a taste of liberal democracy and much prefers it to the enslavement to an authoritarian dictator, even though the latter is much preferred by Putin and his like-minded comrades in the USA Repub Party.

Also, the longer Putin's astonishingly stupid war goes on, the worse it is for Russia's economy, currency, standing in the world and the stronger alliances among liberal democracies become.

So that makes surrendering to Putin a poor option.

I wish Trump hadn't done that for all 4 years of his presidency. To whatever extent his single-minded focus on surrendering to Putin, Xi, Kim, the Taliban, etc, distracted him from, you know, focusing on preventing and responding intelligently to the threat of worldwide economy-destroying Pandemics, wiping out millions upon millions of USA jobs, mass murdering almost a million Americans so far and all that, it is obvious the Trump strategy of surrendering to America's adversaries and enemies of American values was also clearly a poor option.

As witnessed by the horrific conditions and across the board results Trump produced and handed to Biden to fix in 2021.https://www.newsmax.com/platinum/west-russia-ukraine/2022/03/04/id/1059610/

Come on tell me that the Ukraine is going to come out of this a winner? All he is do is sacrificing his people for the Davos agenda.

The Israeli PM is smart, he's telling this fool don't get all your people killed for Biden and Brussels, for nothing no less.

For what so they will call you a hero, LOL.

They are getting the Ukrainian people killed and the 1st thing they do is offer to let him come to London or DC to live (whilst everyone else gets slaughtered).

What scumbags, there should be war crime trials with Biden et al being charged with crimes against humanity.

Villainy
03-15-22, 23:31
15 months after Biden cancelled drilling on federal lands he still has not changed it...Fact: Biden has been in office less than 14 months. Biden signed the executive order halting new oil and gas leases on 1/27/21. So it is only 13 1/2 months.

https://www.npr.org/sections/president-biden-takes-office/2021/01/27/960941799/biden-to-pause-oil-and-gas-leasing-on-public-lands-and-waters


There is no one dumb enough to think that EV's are going to reduce our oil dependence significantly for at least 10 to 30 years.Seriously? EV's alone aren't going to completely reduce our oil dependence. But combined with rapid growth in renewables (hydro, wind and solar panels) there is a strong likelihood that oil production will be reduced dramatically.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2021/04/26/how-renewables-could-kill-off-fossil-fuel-electricity-by-2035-new-report/?sh=2b585a3065ed

It seems to already be happening in England.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/may/25/north-sea-green-energy-could-overtake-oil-and-gas-by-2030-says-study


We may as well cut our military with our current president because we don't have a Commander in Chief. We have a puppet trying to sweet talk our enemies. We are a weakened country and in only 15 months have lost the respect of our allies and most of the free world.15 months again? And I suppose you didn't know how much the US spends on defense (military) compared to everybody else:

$778 billion which is more than the next 11 countries combined.

https://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison

https://www.statista.com/statistics/262742/countries-with-the-highest-military-spending/

And your comment about the US losing respect around the world is also badly mistaken (if not an outright lie). The reality is that respect for the US has grown dramatically with the change in leadership.

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/06/10/americas-image-abroad-rebounds-with-transition-from-trump-to-biden/

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2021/10/18/poll-world-view-of-us-boosted-by-biden-room-to-grow

https://www.businessinsider.com/global-confidence-in-biden-is-58-points-higher-than-trump-in-12-countries-2021-6

MarquisdeSade1
03-15-22, 23:57
A classic MAGA Trumpster explains Covid to us in the link below every bit as clearly and lucidly as the wingers here explain how Biden caused the price of a gallon of gasoline to exceed $4, which, adjusted for inflation, it has done umpteen times over the past several decades under Repubs and Dems:

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheGoodLiars/status/1503470345436684289https://www.rt.com/news/552004-ukraine-president-weak-nato-defense/

Time for a New New World Order led by our Lord and Savior DJT!

Death to all Davos sycophants.

God is Great.

GDreams
03-16-22, 01:22
15 months after Biden cancelled drilling on federal lands he still has not changed it. These federal lands had already been leased and permitted. Keystone pipeline was cancelled and Biden regulations are making it virtually impossible for any new pipeline. Democrats and republicans both went to Biden last week to try to get more drilling and pipelines started. Biden refuses to budge and goes to our enemies begging for more oil. We can't increase our production without new drilling if we drill we need new pipelines to get it to refineries. Keystone would be operational now and we could be delivering 800,000 more barrels of oil a day from Canada. If he reinstated it keystone could be operating by next May.

There is no one dumb enough to think that EV's are going to reduce our oil dependence significantly for at least 10 to 30 years.

We may as well cut our military with our current president because we don't have a Commander in Chief. We have a puppet trying to sweet talk our enemies. We are a weakened country and in only 15 months have lost the respect of our allies and most of the free world. Yes Biden is liked by several countries but unfortunately these countries are all enemies of USA. We should be ramping up domestic drilling and oil production rather than being hostage to our enemies but Biden priorities are to fund our enemies economies along with funding terrorist countries.The number of drill rigs operating has increased 300% since Biden took office. Noone is stopping drilling except for the tight labour market which Biden has produced with his exceptional jobs growth. Oil has fallen like a brick this week thanks to Bidens fantastic market soothing skills.

Once again you have completely lost the plot on Keystone. It was being built to substitute rail freight with a pipeline, not increasing flow.

The only dumb thing is all you wingers who every day repeat the same nonsense. It took 5 years for Blackberrys to be obsolete once smart phones hit the market. Once the battery manufacturing catches up with demand the electric vehicle market will rocket and oil demand plummet.

MarquisdeSade1
03-16-22, 01:48
Why doesn't Zelensky just surrender to Putin? I would say it is because Ukraine had a taste of liberal democracy and much prefers it to the enslavement to an authoritarian dictator, even though the latter is much preferred by Putin and his like-minded comrades in the USA Repub Party.

Also, the longer Putin's astonishingly stupid war goes on, the worse it is for Russia's economy, currency, standing in the world and the stronger alliances among liberal democracies become.

So that makes surrendering to Putin a poor option.

I wish Trump hadn't done that for all 4 years of his presidency. To whatever extent his single-minded focus on surrendering to Putin, Xi, Kim, the Taliban, etc, distracted him from, you know, focusing on preventing and responding intelligently to the threat of worldwide economy-destroying Pandemics, wiping out millions upon millions of USA jobs, mass murdering almost a million Americans so far and all that, it is obvious the Trump strategy of surrendering to America's adversaries and enemies of American values was also clearly a poor option.

As witnessed by the horrific conditions and across the board results Trump produced and handed to Biden to fix in 2021.Notice how many corporations pulled out of Russia without even being forced almost like the oligarchs and the EU NATO and Biden are one entity.

Doesn't look like a lot of independence there, I hope Putin damages the corporatocracy's stranglehold on this country, somebody needs to.

Cali Guy
03-16-22, 02:57
Fact: Biden has been in office less than 14 months. Biden signed the executive order halting new oil and gas leases on 1/27/21. So it is only 13 1/2 months.

https://www.npr.org/sections/president-biden-takes-office/2021/01/27/960941799/biden-to-pause-oil-and-gas-leasing-on-public-lands-and-waters

Seriously? EV's alone aren't going to completely reduce our oil dependence. But combined with rapid growth in renewables (hydro, wind and solar panels) there is a strong likelihood that oil production will be reduced dramatically.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2021/04/26/how-renewables-could-kill-off-fossil-fuel-electricity-by-2035-new-report/?sh=2b585a3065ed

It seems to already be happening in England.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/may/25/north-sea-green-energy-could-overtake-oil-and-gas-by-2030-says-study..Providing fake news links from liberal opinions is worthless. Your posts are just fiction. I agree about one thing though. The 12 countries are Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela, Afghanistan Taliban, and several other terrorists nations. That actually is a negative for the American people.

Cali Guy
03-16-22, 03:02
15 months after Biden cancelled drilling on federal lands he still has not changed it. These federal lands had already been leased and permitted. Keystone pipeline was cancelled and Biden regulations are making it virtually impossible for any new pipeline. Democrats and republicans both went to Biden last week to try to get more drilling and pipelines started. Biden refuses to budge and goes to our enemies begging for more oil. We can't increase our production without new drilling if we drill we need new pipelines to get it to refineries. Keystone would be operational now and we could be delivering 800,000 more barrels of oil a day from Canada. If he reinstated it keystone could be operating by next May.

There is no one dumb enough to think that EV's are going to reduce our oil dependence significantly for at least 10 to 30 years.

We may as well cut our military with our current president because we don't have a Commander in Chief. We have a puppet trying to sweet talk our enemies. We are a weakened country and in only 15 months have lost the respect of our allies and most of the free world. Yes Biden is liked by several countries but unfortunately these countries are all enemies of USA. We should be ramping up domestic drilling and oil production rather than being hostage to our enemies but Biden priorities are to fund our enemies economies along with funding terrorist countries.Great post and totally accurate but I bet some socialists will find some fake news links to dispute it. Democrat and Republican senators in both the house and senate are pushing Biden to allow drilling on Federal lands and stop blocking all the new pipelines. Oil companies could be clouding the market with domestic oil and we could be exporting to Europe oil and gas if we could get more pipelines. But Biden has a plan. Beg our enemies for oil.

Cali Guy
03-16-22, 03:03
You are right. There is not enough lithium in the world or other means to store it. With new technology, who knows, but we are not there now.

On top of that, what do you do when the sun goes down? Well, you have your batteries for three days right? And if the sun is blocked for more than 3 days?

I remember people in California giving us here in Texas shit when we went without power for 2 days. The reason for that was that the wind turbines froze. The nuclear kept going and so did the natural gas. I had electricity for only 12 out of 24 hours for 2 days. It sucked because of the cold, but it was 2 days.

Point is alternate energy fails in extreme conditions typically when you need it most. What kept people warm was going to their cars and using gasoline to warm up and portable propane heaters. There is no storage alternative as good as fossil fuels. Period.

That Dems do not get that is unsurprising to me. Hell, they are going to endure even more and more power outages in the name of climate change.You are correct. Great post!

MarquisdeSade1
03-16-22, 03:06
Why doesn't Zelensky just surrender to Putin? I would say it is because Ukraine had a taste of liberal democracy and much prefers it to the enslavement to an authoritarian dictator, even though the latter is much preferred by Putin and his like-minded comrades in the USA Repub Party.

Also, the longer Putin's astonishingly stupid war goes on, the worse it is for Russia's economy, currency, standing in the world and the stronger alliances among liberal democracies become.

So that makes surrendering to Putin a poor option.

I wish Trump hadn't done that for all 4 years of his presidency. To whatever extent his single-minded focus on surrendering to Putin, Xi, Kim, the Taliban, etc, distracted him from, you know, focusing on preventing and responding intelligently to the threat of worldwide economy-destroying Pandemics, wiping out millions upon millions of USA jobs, mass murdering almost a million Americans so far and all that, it is obvious the Trump strategy of surrendering to America's adversaries and enemies of American values was also clearly a poor option..Teddy strikes again.

https://amgreatness.com/2022/03/14/the-modern-mark-of-the-beast/

Cali Guy
03-16-22, 03:08
Biden policies are killing the economy. Inflation is at record levels. Gas prices highest since 2010 Obama presidency. Border crises still happening with criminal, terrorists and drugs coming freely into USA. World leaders refusing to take Biden calls. Our Allie's losing faith of USA under Biden. And what are the fools talking about? You guessed it Trump, Trump and more Trump. Lies about Trump doesn't lower gas prices. Half the democrats are smart enough to know that gas was $1. 99 under Trump so Biden blames Putin. What a joke. Blaming Trump and Putin does not help the poor. Blaming Trump and Putin for Biden incompetence doesn't help our economy. How much longer are the fools, Biden included going to try and push this agenda? Biden is counting on his followers to continue to be stupid and the posts here seem to prove his strategy is working. Some democrats are getting smarter. None of the socialists are getting any smarter. Now on this thread we only have Republicans and Socialists. Not a democrat to be seen here.Accurate facts. Good post. The socialists have to keep talking about Trump and have to blame Putin. Biden presidency has been a total disaster since his first day in office. The socialists can only defend Biden with opinions from liberal fake news sites and are embarrassed that they can not find one good thing Biden has done. Other than kids ass of Russia and China.

MarquisdeSade1
03-16-22, 03:12
Why doesn't Zelensky just surrender to Putin? I would say it is because Ukraine had a taste of liberal democracy and much prefers it to the enslavement to an authoritarian dictator, even though the latter is much preferred by Putin and his like-minded comrades in the USA Repub Party.

Also, the longer Putin's astonishingly stupid war goes on, the worse it is for Russia's economy, currency, standing in the world and the stronger alliances among liberal democracies become.

So that makes surrendering to Putin a poor option.

I wish Trump hadn't done that for all 4 years of his presidency. To whatever extent his single-minded focus on surrendering to Putin, Xi, Kim, the Taliban, etc, distracted him from, you know, focusing on preventing and responding intelligently to the threat of worldwide economy-destroying Pandemics, wiping out millions upon millions of USA jobs, mass murdering almost a million Americans so far and all that, it is obvious the Trump strategy of surrendering to America's adversaries and enemies of American values was also clearly a poor option..Next stop onto the Reichstag and put the Russian flag atop!

Inshallah!

Z.

EihTooms
03-16-22, 03:28
Notice how many corporations pulled out of Russia without even being forced almost like the oligarchs and the EU NATO and Biden are one entity.

Doesn't look like a lot of independence there, I hope Putin damages the corporatocracy's stranglehold on this country, somebody needs to.The Russian stock exchange has been closed for 20 straight days. The Russian currency isn't even worth the paper it is printed on.

Your Moscow friends might not have noticed anything different yet. But they sure will eventually and for a very long time. Especially any of them who had a life savings or retirement funds in rubles.

Meanwhile, the USA economy and standing in the world has rarely been stronger, growing faster and with better future prospects (until a Repub slithers back into the WH to fuck up everything he touches again, of course) other than under a couple of other Dems in the past.

ScatManDoo
03-16-22, 04:50
Notice how many corporations pulled out of Russia without even being forced almost like the oligarchs and the EU NATO and Biden are one entity.

Doesn't look like a lot of independence thereWhen TrumpShit's master made an evil & unprovoked attack.

Killing and harming innocents.

Many people (including some corporate heads) knew to rush to the side of the victims, and align there.

In the United States only the Trump simpletons could not determine which way to go.

MarquisdeSade1
03-16-22, 05:10
The Russian stock exchange has been closed for 20 straight days. The Russian currency isn't even worth the paper it is printed on.

Your Moscow friends might not have noticed anything different yet. But they sure will eventually and for a very long time. Especially any of them who had a life savings or retirement funds in rubles.

Meanwhile, the USA economy and standing in the world has rarely been stronger, growing faster and with better future prospects (until a Repub slithers back into the WH to fuck up everything he touches again, of course) other than under a couple of other Dems in the past.Maybe stop projecting, are you talking about Bidens Fed and the USD.

Golfinho
03-16-22, 05:17
Meanwhile, the USA economy and standing in the world has rarely been stronger, growing faster and with better future prospectsThat's right. You run out of time long before you run out of money. Just because the Saudis are selling oil in Yuan, and the Chinese have an alternative payment system to SWIFT doesn't mean a thing, not with what's running the US Department for whatever Elephant******* figurehead is on your TV screen in front of you.

MarquisdeSade1
03-16-22, 05:23
The Russian stock exchange has been closed for 20 straight days. The Russian currency isn't even worth the paper it is printed on.

Your Moscow friends might not have noticed anything different yet. But they sure will eventually and for a very long time. Especially any of them who had a life savings or retirement funds in rubles.

Meanwhile, the USA economy and standing in the world has rarely been stronger, growing faster and with better future prospects (until a Repub slithers back into the WH to fuck up everything he touches again, of course) other than under a couple of other Dems in the past.I'm pretty sure I showed you these fotos from right outside my hotel when I was last in BKK?

Sanctions won't bother Moscow LOL its a tough place, the people are the salt of the earth I sure hope the EU remembers Volgograd, now bigger and better with fucking nukes and Putin!!

BTW the Marriott I stayed at right by the Bolshoi in the fotos is still open.

Good for them! Can't wait to check in again!

Z!

GDreams
03-16-22, 05:40
Great post and totally accurate but I bet some socialists will find some fake news links to dispute it. Democrat and Republican senators in both the house and senate are pushing Biden to allow drilling on Federal lands and stop blocking all the new pipelines. Oil companies could be clouding the market with domestic oil and we could be exporting to Europe oil and gas if we could get more pipelines. But Biden has a plan. Beg our enemies for oil.One year after announcing a halt to any new federal oil and gas leasing, Biden has outpaced Donald Trump in issuing drilling permits on public lands. After setting a record for the largest offshore lease sale last year in the Gulf of Mexico, the Interior Department plans to auction off oil and gas drilling rights on more than 200,000 acres across Western states by the end of March, followed by 1 million acres in the Cook Inlet, off the coast of Alaska.

So no halt to permits or drilling, just you guys not even capable of a basic google search to glean the real facts.

MarquisdeSade1
03-16-22, 14:30
The Russian stock exchange has been closed for 20 straight days. The Russian currency isn't even worth the paper it is printed on.

Your Moscow friends might not have noticed anything different yet. But they sure will eventually and for a very long time. Especially any of them who had a life savings or retirement funds in rubles.

Meanwhile, the USA economy and standing in the world has rarely been stronger, growing faster and with better future prospects (until a Repub slithers back into the WH to fuck up everything he touches again, of course) other than under a couple of other Dems in the past.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/16/world/europe/putin-war-ukraine-recolonization.html

PVMonger
03-16-22, 15:23
Fact: Biden has been in office less than 14 months. Biden signed the executive order halting new oil and gas leases on 1/27/21. So it is only 13 1/2 months.

https://www.npr.org/sections/president-biden-takes-office/2021/01/27/960941799/biden-to-pause-oil-and-gas-leasing-on-public-lands-and-waters

Seriously? EV's alone aren't going to completely reduce our oil dependence. But combined with rapid growth in renewables (hydro, wind and solar panels) there is a strong likelihood that oil production will be reduced dramatically.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2021/04/26/how-renewables-could-kill-off-fossil-fuel-electricity-by-2035-new-report/?sh=2b585a3065ed

It seems to already be happening in England.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/may/25/north-sea-green-energy-could-overtake-oil-and-gas-by-2030-says-study

15 months again? And I suppose you didn't know how much the US spends on defense (military) compared to everybody else:The idiot wingers (Cali, Canada, AxeHole, etc) have already called this "fake news". Anything other than opinion from FUX "NewZ" and the rest of the winger propaganda sites is "fake news". We've just got to learn to live with it.

PVMonger
03-16-22, 15:44
Great post and totally accurate but I bet some socialists will find some fake news links to dispute it. Democrat and Republican senators in both the house and senate are pushing Biden to allow drilling on Federal lands and stop blocking all the new pipelines. Oil companies could be clouding the market with domestic oil and we could be exporting to Europe oil and gas if we could get more pipelines. But Biden has a plan. Beg our enemies for oil.Actually, we come up with real news sites to dispute your lies. But every time we do, you just yell "fake newZ".

That's why it is easy to be one of the 74+ million deplorables. Up is down. Left is right. Real is fake. No thought is needed, just believe lies like the moon landings were faked, Jewish space lasers cause forest fires, Chinese thermostats changed votes and oil company execs are stupid for allowing more wells to produce oil now than 13 months ago but without any way to get that oil to market.

If you can't think, the Republican party wants you. Rofl.

PVMonger
03-16-22, 16:10
Finally, here's a grain of truth from a winger site. No, it isn't FUX "NewZ" or OANN or Newsmax, but it is a winger site.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/03/no-to-trump-in-2024/

But I'll bet that the wingers on this board will say it is "fake newZ" or somesuch blather.

Canada
03-16-22, 16:44
The Russian stock exchange has been closed for 20 straight days. The Russian currency isn't even worth the paper it is printed on.

Your Moscow friends might not have noticed anything different yet. But they sure will eventually and for a very long time. Especially any of them who had a life savings or retirement funds in rubles.

Meanwhile, the USA economy and standing in the world has rarely been stronger, growing faster and with better future prospects (until a Repub slithers back into the WH to fuck up everything he touches again, of course) other than under a couple of other Dems in the past.Oil is sold in USA dollars so Putin is benefiting greatly. The Russian people are getting hurt. Not Putin or the Russian government and Russian oil companies. Dictators like Putin and Biden don't care if the poor and low income are hurt with the devaluation of currency or inflation because it does not affect them. People in Russia and people in USA are using their life savings for survival. Biden will blame Putin for Americans suffering and Putin will blame Biden for Russians suffering.

Canada
03-16-22, 17:30
One year after announcing a halt to any new federal oil and gas leasing, Biden has outpaced Donald Trump in issuing drilling permits on public lands. After setting a record for the largest offshore lease sale last year in the Gulf of Mexico, the Interior Department plans to auction off oil and gas drilling rights on more than 200,000 acres across Western states by the end of March, followed by 1 million acres in the Cook Inlet, off the coast of Alaska.

So no halt to permits or drilling, just you guys not even capable of a basic google search to glean the real facts.Biden did nothing but oil companies especially in North Dakota ramped up drilling on public lands where Biden could not delay or stop them. With the price of oil companies escalated their drilling in spite of Biden hindering them with additional regulations. But pipelines are different. Biden still is blocking and hindering every new pipeline. Please send proof of one major new pipeline that Biden approved last year or admit you lied about everything.

ScatManDoo
03-16-22, 18:43
oil companies especially in North Dakota ramped up drilling on public lands where Biden could not delay or stop them. With the price of oil companies escalated their drilling in spite of Biden hindering them with additional regulations. But pipelines are different. Biden still is blocking and hindering every new pipeline. Please send proof of one major new pipeline that Biden approved last year or admit you lied about everything.So Canada.

You now admit, because of information given by other posters, that drilling has been ramping up under Biden's first year.

PVMonger
03-16-22, 18:46
Biden did nothing but oil companies especially in North Dakota ramped up drilling on public lands where Biden could not delay or stop them. With the price of oil companies escalated their drilling in spite of Biden hindering them with additional regulations. But pipelines are different. Biden still is blocking and hindering every new pipeline. Please send proof of one major new pipeline that Biden approved last year or admit you lied about everything."A total of 7.44 billion cubic feet per day (Bcf / d) of interstate natural gas pipeline capacity was added in the United States during 2021, according to our recently updated Natural Gas Pipeline Projects Tracker. " https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=51398.

MarquisdeSade1
03-16-22, 19:57
Biden did nothing but oil companies especially in North Dakota ramped up drilling on public lands where Biden could not delay or stop them. With the price of oil companies escalated their drilling in spite of Biden hindering them with additional regulations. But pipelines are different. Biden still is blocking and hindering every new pipeline. Please send proof of one major new pipeline that Biden approved last year or admit you lied about everything.https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/poll-inflation-democrats-joe-biden/2022/03/15/id/1061358/

https://amgreatness.com/2022/03/15/ukraine-what-is-in-americas-interest/https://amgreatness.com/2022/03/15/ukraine-what-is-in-americas-interest/

I'm pretty sure you Russophobes just hate them because they are white you're all a bunch of RACISTS, admit if they were some dark shade you would be hoping them the best.

https://sputniknews.com/20220316/freeze-on-russian-reserves-domino-that-may-topple-dollars-world-reserve-status-german-media-warns-1093925844.html

Remember Nov 10, 2021.

EihTooms
03-16-22, 20:56
Fed approves first rate hike in more than three years, sees six more ahead

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/16/federal-reserve-meeting.html?__source=androidappshare


"The U.S. economy is very strong and well-positioned to handle tighter monetary policy."But but but, hasn't Powell heard that Biden's policies are killing this economy?

MarquisdeSade1
03-16-22, 22:25
When TrumpShit's master made an evil & unprovoked attack.

Killing and harming innocents.

Many people (including some corporate heads) knew to rush to the side of the victims, and align there.

In the United States only the Trump simpletons could not determine which way to go.https://www.newsmax.com/robertzapesochny/lockheed-martin-raytheon-technologies/2022/03/16/id/1061433/

ScatManDoo
03-16-22, 23:15
https://www.newsmax.com/robertzapesochny/lockheed-martin-raytheon-technologies/2022/03/16/id/1061433/What does that have to do with what I wrote?

MarquisdeSade1
03-17-22, 01:50
Finally, here's a grain of truth from a winger site. No, it isn't FUX "NewZ" or OANN or Newsmax, but it is a winger site.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/03/no-to-trump-in-2024/

But I'll bet that the wingers on this board will say it is "fake newZ" or somesuch blather.Rich Lowery is a POS and so is NRO.

EihTooms
03-17-22, 02:59
What does that have to do with what I wrote?Nothing. If he could have found an utterly unrelated and irrelevant Fake News, Max opinion piece that derided "wokeness" in kindergartens, he would have posted that with the heading, Oh, Yeah? Take That!.

GDreams
03-17-22, 03:05
Biden did nothing but oil companies especially in North Dakota ramped up drilling on public lands where Biden could not delay or stop them. With the price of oil companies escalated their drilling in spite of Biden hindering them with additional regulations. But pipelines are different. Biden still is blocking and hindering every new pipeline. Please send proof of one major new pipeline that Biden approved last year or admit you lied about everything.Of course Biden did nothing. He is the President of the USA not an oil exec. He is not a socialist. He does not make investment decisions for companies. He does not build pipelines. There is still over 2 mbpd of pipeline capacity unused. It is up to corporations to decide if they need more capacity, not Biden. Why do I need to send proof of anything? For once you try sending proof. Show a pipeline that Biden is preventing by federal policy. I'm not expecting any real proof as you have not supplied one actual fact ever posting on this board.

EihTooms
03-17-22, 03:39
Some of these numbskull Repub excuses are hilarious. LOL. Too much, too little, too soon, too late, too many pages. All the usual.

Ah, the luxury of being a member of the Know Nothing and Do Nothing Republican Party. See, if you Do Nothing, the Nothing you Do is difficult to criticize and your typically pro Repub benefactors in Mainstream Media rarely even try.

"Our beloved Repubs who as everyone knows handle the economy better than Dems proposed nothing, did nothing, risked nothing, voted for nothing. Oh, those lovable Do Nothing Repubs! Look, they told us a year ago they would Do Nothing and they kept their promise! So honorable. Let's give them our usual Total Pass and a big hug."

LOL. I have watched typically pro Mainsteam Media excuse and defend the Do Nothing Republican Party in order to help them win elections and therefore provide MSM's much needed "Repub Disaster Strikes Again!" headlines that way for decades.

By contrast, it is blissfully easy to criticize something that gets Done. And the pro Repub MSM are only too happy and eager to do exactly that whenever the Dems earn their paychecks and Do Something to recover us from this or that Great Repub Disaster and produce historically positive results.

"It's too big, too small, too soon, too late, too fast, too slow, too many pages, too few pages, too complicated, too simple, too many things in it I don't like, too many things in it they like" blah blah blah.

And so it goes.

Full List of 31 Republicans Who Voted Against Military Aid for Ukraine

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-31-republicans-voted-against-military-aid-ukraine-1687052

This one might be my favorite:

The legislation also includes funding for "the hiring of 10,000 IRS agents & other woke priorities" - Thirsty Marco Rubio.

Yep, he got a sucker social issue "woke" somewhere in there between desperate gulps of water.

Elvis 2008
03-17-22, 04:03
Finally, here's a grain of truth from a winger site. No, it isn't FUX "NewZ" or OANN or Newsmax, but it is a winger site.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/03/no-to-trump-in-2024/

But I'll bet that the wingers on this board will say it is "fake newZ" or somesuch blather."That none of the other candidates have lost an election to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and then disgracefully lied about it for a year; that none of the other candidates have inspired a riot in the service of that lie; that none of the other candidates have sat in their country club for the last two years issuing unhinged press releases, delivering impotent endorsements and attempting to undermine Mitch McConnell, the most effective Republican senator of the last 50 years."

I am willing to accept Biden as president. After he was declared the winner, I thought fighting the result was a waste of time. I knew the federal judges were going to be gutless as hell, and they did not disappoint. You see, unlike you Dems, I knew federal judges do not have to hear any cases they do not want to, and they did not want to hear these.

With all the crap we saw with our own eyes, obviously there was cheating. There always is. Yes, Trump had a right to be mad, and a lot of citizens did as well. I did not like BLM or the riots of 1-6 but I got why they happened and in both cases, I thought it was failure of government.

So for this dipshit to echo Dems and say Trump "lost" the election is insulting because every Republican I know has accepted the result but feels cheated. That nobody was deposed says a lot to us.

And the line about McConnell seals it. In the primaries for 2016, we had six McConnell types running, and they all lost. McConnell is a swamp creature. His article may as well has been subtitled "Let's return to the swamp".

It is funny. We cannot stand you Dems and your freedom hating censorship ways. If you are against censorship, you vote for Trump. If you want more, go vote for a McConnell type or Kamala Harris because you are sure to get it.

A great way to get more of the "civility" this dipshit is promoting is censorship.

MarquisdeSade1
03-17-22, 06:41
Some of these numbskull Repub excuses are hilarious. LOL. Too much, too little, too soon, too late, too many pages. All the usual.

Ah, the luxury of being a member of the Know Nothing and Do Nothing Republican Party. See, if you Do Nothing, the Nothing you Do is difficult to criticize and your typically pro Repub benefactors in Mainstream Media rarely even try.

"Our beloved Repubs who as everyone knows handle the economy better than Dems proposed nothing, did nothing, risked nothing, voted for nothing. Oh, those lovable Do Nothing Repubs! Look, they told us a year ago they would Do Nothing and they kept their promise! So honorable. Let's give them our usual Total Pass and a big hug."

LOL. I have watched typically pro Mainsteam Media excuse and defend the Do Nothing Republican Party in order to help them win elections and therefore provide MSM's much needed "Repub Disaster Strikes Again!" headlines that way for decades..https://www.rt.com/russia/552098-ukraine-speed-operations-civilians/

Nice insight / update.

MarquisdeSade1
03-17-22, 06:46
Nothing. If he could have found an utterly unrelated and irrelevant Fake News, Max opinion piece that derided "wokeness" in kindergartens, he would have posted that with the heading, Oh, Yeah? Take That!.Nutty Nancy's husband making millions off insider info has zero to do with her votes or anything the dems do.

BTW why is she fighting the ban so hard? LOL.

They both need to be in Florence Co.

ScatManDoo
03-17-22, 08:17
Finally, here's a grain of truth from a winger site. No, it isn't FUX "NewZ" or OANN or Newsmax, but it is a winger site.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/03/no-to-trump-in-2024/

But I'll bet that the wingers on this board will say it is "fake newZ" or somesuch blather.I really enjoyed the conclusion of that article written by Charles CW. Cooke:

Donald Trump has spent the last 15 months pretending that he won the 2020 presidential election because he understands that, in the modern era, a nominee who loses an election is a nominee who does not get picked to run again. The Republican Party did not go back to Gerald Ford in 1980, or to George H. W. Bush in 1996, or to Bob Dole in 2000, or to John McCain in 2012, or to Mitt Romney in 2016, and it should not go back to Donald Trump in 2024.

The man lost. He's a loser. It's time we picked a winner for a change.

EihTooms
03-17-22, 12:52
https://www.rt.com/russia/552098-ukraine-speed-operations-civilians/

Nice insight / update.Your link:


403 - Forbidden . Thats an error.

Client does not have access rights to the content so server is rejecting to give proper response. Thats all we know.Quite fitting as a response to my post about Know Nothing Repubs.

EihTooms
03-17-22, 13:13
Nutty Nancy's husband making millions off insider info has zero to do with her votes or anything the dems do.

BTW why is she fighting the ban so hard? LOL.

They both need to be in Florence Co.Nancy can dismiss it all she wants as a non issue for this blatantly obvious reason; She is a Dem.

Dems produce and preside over far superior Economic, Jobs Creation and Stock Market Returns than any other Party in history. So, whatever she or other Dems vote for that happens to be in their portfolios, it has and will likely always be good for almost everyone else in America.

Whatever Nancy has been doing, America can only benefit if she keeps doing it.

It's like the mirror opposite of whatever the fuck Repubs are up to.

GDreams
03-17-22, 13:13
I am willing to accept Biden as president. After he was declared the winner, I thought fighting the result was a waste of time. I knew the federal judges were going to be gutless as hell, and they did not disappoint. You see, unlike you Dems, I knew federal judges do not have to hear any cases they do not want to, and they did not want to hear these.

With all the crap we saw with our own eyes, obviously there was cheating. There always is. Yes, Trump had a right to be mad, and a lot of citizens did as well. I did not like BLM or the riots of 1-6 but I got why they happened and in both cases, I thought it was failure of government.It seems you don't accept Bidens right to be President. None of Trumps legal actions had any credibility. With all the audits that have taken place, especially Arizona and Georgia there has been no evidence of cheating. If Trump had behaved even remotely normal he had a shot at winning but he showed clearly during Covid that he was not fit to lead. Leaders bring people together in crisis and do not try and fight ego wars.

EihTooms
03-17-22, 14:42
Weekly jobless claims total 214,000, better than expected for tight labor market

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/17/us-jobless-claims-.html?__source=androidappshare


Weekly jobless claims totaled 214,000, better than the 220,000 estimate and down 15,000 from the prior week.

Housing starts and building permits both were better than expected.

Manufacturing activity in the Philadelphia region also was well above estimates, though prices paid rose to their highest level since 1979. BTW, how is Trump's fellow "very stable genius" butt buddy's economy doing over there in Russia? I'm guessing nobody in Russia will be seeing a need to raise interest rates, historic job gains, low unemployment and jobless claims or signs of meaningful inflation there for a long, long time.

In other words, many will be enjoying Repub Party Economic Results Nirvana after going from a first world lifestyle to third world lifestyle faster than a Repub potus typically accomplishes that for America before his second year in office.

Canada
03-17-22, 15:00
So Canada.

You now admit, because of information given by other posters, that drilling has been ramping up under Biden's first year.Drilling is up on public lands because Biden can't stop it. This is in spite of Biden doing everything in his power to hinder the oil industry. The world is in the verge of a World War and Biden thinks climate control is the most danger to the world. I am sure the biggest concern for people in Ukraine now is going green. Biden is an embarrassment.

PVMonger
03-17-22, 16:10
"That none of the other candidates have lost an election to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and then disgracefully lied about it for a year; that none of the other candidates have inspired a riot in the service of that lie; that none of the other candidates have sat in their country club for the last two years issuing unhinged press releases, delivering impotent endorsements and attempting to undermine Mitch McConnell, the most effective Republican senator of the last 50 years."

I am willing to accept Biden as president. After he was declared the winner, I thought fighting the result was a waste of time. I knew the federal judges were going to be gutless as hell, and they did not disappoint. You see, unlike you Dems, I knew federal judges do not have to hear any cases they do not want to, and they did not want to hear these.

With all the crap we saw with our own eyes, obviously there was cheating. There always is. Yes, Trump had a right to be mad, and a lot of citizens did as well. I did not like BLM or the riots of 1-6 but I got why they happened and in both cases, I thought it was failure of government..You supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy really need to do some learning'. You need to do three things and three things only.

First, search on-line for the complete text of any (or all) of the 60-some-odd lawsuits filed by the Orange Buffoons crackpot legal team. All of the suits are public record so they are all available for you to view. I have looked at all of them.

Second, count how how many of the lawsuits allege that fraud was committed. I have counted the number.

Third, post here what the count was.

I realize that you are too freakin' scared to do that so I will do it for you. Because while the Mango Mussolini and his idiot supporters (like you) were bloviating about election fraud, the actual count of the number lawsuits filed that alleged election fraud was zero. In other words, zip, nada, nix, cero, naught, nil, et cetera.

PVMonger
03-17-22, 16:16
https://www.rt.com/russia/552098-ukraine-speed-operations-civilians/

Nice insight / update."Russian President Vladimir Putin has given strict orders from the outset to avoid civilian casualties and extensive property damage," which is why, I guess, 90% of Miriupol has been destroyed.

What a crock.

GDreams
03-17-22, 17:06
Drilling is up on public lands because Biden can't stop it. This is in spite of Biden doing everything in his power to hinder the oil industry. The world is in the verge of a World War and Biden thinks climate control is the most danger to the world. I am sure the biggest concern for people in Ukraine now is going green. Biden is an embarrassment.Well I'm impressed you have finally admitted that Biden is not the cause of lack of oil production. Now we just need from you an admittance that 90 % of your grievance with Biden is your side did not win. That the majority of the issues you complain about are largely a result of the pandemic and not Biden's policies. Maybe congratulate Biden on another set of excellent job numbers!

PVMonger
03-17-22, 17:32
Drilling is up on public lands because Biden can't stop it. This is in spite of Biden doing everything in his power to hinder the oil industry. The world is in the verge of a World War and Biden thinks climate control is the most danger to the world. I am sure the biggest concern for people in Ukraine now is going green. Biden is an embarrassment.Here are your exact words from a while back. I copied them from one of your goofball posts: "Biden in his first day of office cancelled Keystone pipeline and stopped drilling on federal lands".

Now you are saying that "Drilling is up on public lands because Biden can't stop it".

Question: Were you lying then or are you lying now?

Elvis 2008
03-17-22, 17:46
You supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy really need to do some learning'. You need to do three things and three things only.

First, search on-line for the complete text of any (or all) of the 60-some-odd lawsuits filed by the Orange Buffoons crackpot legal team. All of the suits are public record so they are all available for you to view. I have looked at all of them.

Second, count how how many of the lawsuits allege that fraud was committed. I have counted the number.

Third, post here what the count was.

I realize that you are too freakin' scared to do that so I will do it for you. Because while the Mango Mussolini and his idiot supporters (like you) were bloviating about election fraud, the actual count of the number lawsuits filed that alleged election fraud was zero. In other words, zip, nada, nix, cero, naught, nil, et cetera.LOL. So just because the lawsuits could not meet the legal definition of fraud, cheating was not going on? Oh brother. You are afraid in 2024 that Trump is going to kick your ass, aren't you? Well, you are right to be afraid.

PedroMorales
03-17-22, 18:08
"Russian President Vladimir Putin has given strict orders from the outset to avoid civilian casualties and extensive property damage," which is why, I guess, 90% of Miriupol has been destroyed.

What a crock.Mariupol (note the spelling) is where the US led Azov Nazis are. Had the Russians wanted to, they would have done what the US war criminals did to Serbia and Iraq. Did you watch the video of the US mercenary crying after Russian missiles flattened Lyiv? He said hundreds dead, including "a ton of Brits".

Paulie97
03-17-22, 18:34
It seems you don't accept Bidens right to be President. None of Trumps legal actions had any credibility. With all the audits that have taken place, especially Arizona and Georgia there has been no evidence of cheating. If Trump had behaved even remotely normal he had a shot at winning but he showed clearly during Covid that he was not fit to lead. Leaders bring people together in crisis and do not try and fight ego wars.This is a very sensible post.

PVMonger
03-17-22, 18:49
The day that Russia invaded Ukraine, the price of oil was $99 per barrel. Average gasoline price in the US was $3.61 per gallon.

Today, the price of oil was also $99 per barrel. Average gasoline price in the US is $4.30 per gallon.

But the numbskulls blame President Biden for the increase in gasoline cost over the past 3 weeks.

Elvis 2008
03-17-22, 20:46
You supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy really need to do some learning'. You need to do three things and three things only.

First, search on-line for the complete text of any (or all) of the 60-some-odd lawsuits filed by the Orange Buffoons crackpot legal team. All of the suits are public record so they are all available for you to view. I have looked at all of them.

Second, count how how many of the lawsuits allege that fraud was committed. I have counted the number.

Third, post here what the count was.

I realize that you are too freakin' scared to do that so I will do it for you. Because while the Mango Mussolini and his idiot supporters (like you) were bloviating about election fraud, the actual count of the number lawsuits filed that alleged election fraud was zero. In other words, zip, nada, nix, cero, naught, nil, et cetera.I know what it takes to make an accusation of a fraud. Just because that definition could not be alleged does not mean it did not happen.

You are holding up the federal courts as an example of fairness when we think they are the swamp. You can call us stupid all you want, but you are going to get your ass kicked in 2022 and 2024.

The reason you do not want Trump in 2024 is because if he is the nominee he is going to kick your and the swamp's ass, and you swamp rats are out of fucking control. Advocating for the seizure of bank accounts of those in Canada who donated to the trucker protest, seizing Russian assets without due process not even seeing if said Russian supports Putin, the worse than ever censorship, the swamp making rule upon rule bypassing Congress with Covid, and the continuation of emergency powers even with Covid down to near nothing. You all are interested in having a Democracy? After the rigged Democratic primaries of 2016 and 2020? After Russiagate? After Ukrianegate? After the 2020 "election"? LOL. We are in Democracy in name only right now, and that is why Trump is going to win. He is the only one even talking about draining the swamp.

Paulie97
03-17-22, 21:11
Your link:

Quite fitting as a response to my post about Know Nothing Repubs.In this case Russian state news, other times Info Wars, Breitbart, Newmax, at least the Marquis is honest about where he gets his info while his comrades on this thread are not.

PVMonger
03-17-22, 21:54
Mariupol (note the spelling) is where the US led Azov Nazis are. Had the Russians wanted to, they would have done what the US war criminals did to Serbia and Iraq. Did you watch the video of the US mercenary crying after Russian missiles flattened Lyiv? He said hundreds dead, including "a ton of Brits".Yes, I misspelled Mariupol. And yes, I know about the Azov Battalion. They are Nationalists and white supremacists. In other words, trumpers.

FYI, Russian missiles did not "flatten Lviv". The missiles hit a training center on the outskirts of Lviv. Were there "irregular forces" there. Sure.

FYI, the only people calling these foreign volunteers "mercenaries" are Putin and Russian shills.

PVMonger
03-18-22, 00:15
I know what it takes to make an accusation of a fraud. Just because that definition could not be alleged does not mean it did not happen.

You are holding up the federal courts as an example of fairness when we think they are the swamp. You can call us stupid all you want, but you are going to get your ass kicked in 2022 and 2024.

The reason you do not want Trump in 2024 is because if he is the nominee he is going to kick your and the swamp's ass, and you swamp rats are out of fucking control. Advocating for the seizure of bank accounts of those in Canada who donated to the trucker protest, seizing Russian assets without due process not even seeing if said Russian supports Putin, the worse than ever censorship, the swamp making rule upon rule bypassing Congress with Covid, and the continuation of emergency powers even with Covid down to near nothing. You all are interested in having a Democracy? After the rigged Democratic primaries of 2016 and 2020? After Russiagate? After Ukrianegate? After the 2020 "election"? LOL. We are in Democracy in name only right now, and that is why Trump is going to win. He is the only one even talking about draining the swamp.Yeah, just because nobody alleged fraud doesn't mean it didn't happen? Really? I thought you guys had lots of proof? Where was it? 'Cause if you had it, it would have been extremely easy to allege it in a lawsuit. The simple facts are that you had no proof. The simple facts are that all of the Orange Fruitcake's bluster and all of his spawn can't put Humpty back together again.

The simple facts are that just because you say something happened doesn't mean it happened. Do Jewish space lasers cause forest fires? MTG says so. Does that make it so? Nope.

Mike Lindell said that Chinese thermostats changed voting machine votes. Does that make it so? Nope.

What you think happened and what actually happened are so far divorced from reality as to be ludicrous.

What you believe makes no difference to me. And, yes, I think you and the rest of your moronic brethren are stupid.

Paulie97
03-18-22, 02:43
Yeah, just because nobody alleged fraud doesn't mean it didn't happen? Really? I thought you guys had lots of proof? Where was it? 'Cause if you had it, it would have been extremely easy to allege it in a lawsuit. It was a fund raising scheme by the biggest swamp creatures of all, Trump and his cronies. The whole time he was soliciting donations to cover his legal fees while suckers like Elvis bought into it all hook, line, and sinker. 280 million raised, but only 13 million went to legal fees. "Stop the Steal" is right, but it wasn't stopped. The fools were scammed and good.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-rnc-raised-hundreds-millions-pushing-baseless-election/story?id=75633798

Elvis 2008
03-18-22, 03:05
What you think happened and what actually happened are so far divorced from reality as to be ludicrous.

What you believe makes no difference to me. And, yes, I think you and the rest of your moronic brethren are stupid.Then why post the article? Wasn't the purpose of it to get people off Trump so you have a chance in 2024?

Elvis 2008
03-18-22, 03:28
It seems you don't accept Bidens right to be President.No, I did and said I did. I do not want Biden to destroy the economy though he has been Carteresque at this point.


None of Trumps legal actions had any credibility. With all the audits that have taken place, especially Arizona and Georgia there has been no evidence of cheating.So if you kill someone and destroy the body, does that mean there is no murder? A lack of evidence does not mean something did not happen. And even then, there is a big difference between not guilty and innocent.


If Trump had behaved even remotely normal he had a shot at winning but he showed clearly during Covid that he was not fit to lead.Yeah, unlike that NY governor you Dems said showed real leadership. What happened to him again? Tell me a non-Democrat who showed real leadership on Covid. One of the places you Dems pointed to as doing great with Covid was South Korea. Have you seen what is happening there now?


Leaders bring people together in crisis and do not try and fight ego wars.Was Russiagate about trying to bringing people together? How about Ukrainegate? Same thing? Give me an example of Biden bringing Republicans and Democrats together. I need a laugh.

You guys are going to get crushed in 2022 and 2024, and you know it. You have done a great job of convincing yourselves everything with the 2020 election was on the up and up, but you have not convinced most people who voted for Trump of anything. I saw a lot of shady shit and did not see one fucking deposition on the election. Not one.

So while you dummies keep trying to convince us that there was no fraud in 2020, we will see what happens in 2022 and 2024. After the shit I saw in Georgia in 2020, I was certain the Dems would win both Senate races. You can call us stupid all you want to but the reason I am so certain you are going to get your asses kicked in 2022 and 2024 is because the shit you pulled in 2020 is not going to happen again. We'll see who is right or better yet get your excuses ready because you are going to need them.

ScatManDoo
03-18-22, 04:11
Yeah, just because nobody alleged fraud doesn't mean it didn't happen? Really? I thought you guys had lots of proof? Where was it? 'Cause if you had it, it would have been extremely easy to allege it in a lawsuit. The simple facts are that you had no proof. The simple facts are that all of the Orange Fruitcake's bluster and all of his spawn can't put Humpty back together again.

The simple facts are that just because you say something happened doesn't mean it happened. Do Jewish space lasers cause forest fires? MTG says so. Does that make it so? Nope.

Mike Lindell said that Chinese thermostats changed voting machine votes. Does that make it so? Nope.

What you think happened and what actually happened are so far divorced from reality as to be ludicrous.

What you believe makes no difference to me. And, yes, I think you and the rest of your moronic brethren are stupid.In just about every state Trump got around 4% to 5% less votes than the average of his down ticket republican. Trump was clearly and consistently not favored as strongly as other GOP party candidates.

So was there fraud in just about all 50 states? And not just around a half dozen contested states?

GDreams
03-18-22, 06:36
The numbers you posted prove Trump created jobs and Biden has not yet gotten people back to work to get back to Trump record numbers. If you don't understand the statistics that you post you should stop posting. You are the one that proved me right. Take credit for it.So Canada keeps asking where the 2 m jobs went that Biden is yet to catch up. Well here it is in one hit. https://us.yahoo.com/news/one-most-basic-hotel-amenities-104344685.html. Hotel employment levels alone are 1. 8 m below pre Covid levels. Hotels have pretty much stopped doing all but the most basic room services so they can catch up on profits they lost during the pandemic. These jobs just won't return. All this occurred under Trump. Now with the latest employment numbers and taking into account the lost 1. 8 m hotel jobs Biden has matched Trump less than 18 months into his presidency following the massive Covid disruption. Well done Biden.

MarquisdeSade1
03-18-22, 11:07
Mariupol (note the spelling) is where the US led Azov Nazis are. Had the Russians wanted to, they would have done what the US war criminals did to Serbia and Iraq. Did you watch the video of the US mercenary crying after Russian missiles flattened Lyiv? He said hundreds dead, including "a ton of Brits".I thought he was long dead, what a shame to hear otherwise.

https://www.rt.com/news/552168-french-bhl-odessa-ukraine-nato/

ErsatzJulian
03-18-22, 11:16
LOL. So just because the lawsuits could not meet the legal definition of fraud, cheating was not going on? This statement is just mind-blowing. If I assert that your house is mine, even though I can't prove it in a court of law, your house is still mine?

MarquisdeSade1
03-18-22, 16:50
https://www.newsmax.com/geneberardelli/media-hunter-biden/2022/03/18/id/1061815/



and theres this...

https://www.aol.com/news/china-soaring-covid-numbers-put-124959493.html

instead of zero covid China, how about the world just adopts a zero China policy

no flights allowed or imports and contain it indefinitely

No China!! No Chinese virus!!

MarquisdeSade1
03-18-22, 17:06
https://www.rt.com/russia/552142-russia-ukraine-china-benefit/

PVMonger
03-18-22, 17:16
No, I did and said I did. I do not want Biden to destroy the economy though he has been Carteresque at this point.

So if you kill someone and destroy the body, does that mean there is no murder? A lack of evidence does not mean something did not happen. And even then, there is a big difference between not guilty and innocent.

Yeah, unlike that NY governor you Dems said showed real leadership. What happened to him again? Tell me a non-Democrat who showed real leadership on Covid. One of the places you Dems pointed to as doing great with Covid was South Korea. Have you seen what is happening there now?

Was Russiagate about trying to bringing people together? How about Ukrainegate? Same thing? Give me an example of Biden bringing Republicans and Democrats together. I need a laugh.

You guys are going to get crushed in 2022 and 2024, and you know it. You have done a great job of convincing yourselves everything with the 2020 election was on the up and up, but you have not convinced most people who voted for Trump of anything. I saw a lot of shady shit and did not see one fucking deposition on the election. Not one..You said: "you have not convinced most people who voted for Trump of anything". Of course not. The principle involved is called "psychological rigidity".

There is more to it than the rather simplistic explanation that follows but the explanation is correct. "A fragile ego leads to attempts to distort reality. Some people have such a fragile ego, such brittle self-esteem, such a weak "psychological constitution," that admitting they made a mistake or that they were wrong is fundamentally too threatening for their egos to tolerate. Accepting they were wrong, absorbing that reality, would be so psychologically shattering, their defense mechanisms do something remarkable to avoid doing so — they literally distort their perception of reality to make it (reality) less threatening. Their defense mechanisms protect their fragile ego by changing the very facts in their mind, so they are no longer wrong or culpable. {snip} People who repeatedly exhibit this kind of behavior are, by definition, psychologically fragile. However, that assessment is often difficult for people to accept, because to the outside world, they look as if they're confidently standing their ground and not backing down, things we associate with strength. But psychological rigidity is not a sign of strength, it is an indication of weakness. These people are not choosing to stand their ground; they're compelled to do so in order to protect their fragile egos. " https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-squeaky-wheel/201811/why-certain-people-will-never-admit-they-were-wrong.

PVMonger
03-18-22, 17:21
In just about every state Trump got around 4% to 5% less votes than the average of his down ticket republican. Trump was clearly and consistently not favored as strongly as other GOP party candidates.

So was there fraud in just about all 50 states? And not just around a half dozen contested states?That's the conundrum, isn't it? And it is one of the conundrums that supporters of the Orange Fruitcake can't wrap their little "minds" around. They can't explain it (obviously) so they simply ignore it by sticking their heads somewhere.

MarquisdeSade1
03-18-22, 17:57
Yeah, just because nobody alleged fraud doesn't mean it didn't happen? Really? I thought you guys had lots of proof? Where was it? 'Cause if you had it, it would have been extremely easy to allege it in a lawsuit. The simple facts are that you had no proof. The simple facts are that all of the Orange Fruitcake's bluster and all of his spawn can't put Humpty back together again.

The simple facts are that just because you say something happened doesn't mean it happened. Do Jewish space lasers cause forest fires? MTG says so. Does that make it so? Nope.

Mike Lindell said that Chinese thermostats changed voting machine votes. Does that make it so? Nope.

What you think happened and what actually happened are so far divorced from reality as to be ludicrous.

What you believe makes no difference to me. And, yes, I think you and the rest of your moronic brethren are stupid.Where's the proof? Does that mean it never happened? Wait for it, 2024 the anti-Democracy oligarchs and the DNC will probably go for a sequel of 2020.

Maybe they will just trigger the Civil War 2.0 instead.

Axel Heyst
03-18-22, 18:05
The Dems know Biden is washed up and the Party will not allow him to run for a 2nd term. They won't admit it, but quietly the Party is already looking for someone else to run in 24. The problem is they got nobody. Mrs. Clinton wants to run, that is why she started raising money, but more than half the country despises her. Michelle Obama & Oprah Winfrey are the only well known Dems with positive ratings and they are black women which counts for a lot in the woke-tard progressive wing of the party. Wouldn't that be an interesting campaign: Trump vs. Obama. But I think Michelle has better things to do and would rather spend her time living the good life than get into a knock down, no holds barred brawl with Trump. I could be wrong, however. Ha Ha.

Meanwhile Biden, I mean the Wizard of Oz, is slipping in the polls, surprise surprise, as the Ukraine War wears on, inflation runs wild, real wages are declining, a recession looms, the border is wide open, and violence surges in Democrat controlled cities. Good times!

The Rasmussen Report's daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 38% of Likely USA Voters approve of President Biden's job performance. Sixty percent (60%) disapprove. The latest figures include 20% who Strongly Approve of the job Biden is doing and 50% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -30.

Let's go Brandon!

GDreams
03-18-22, 18:11
So if you kill someone and destroy the body, does that mean there is no murder? A lack of evidence does not mean something did not happen. And even then, there is a big difference between not guilty and innocent.

Was Russiagate about trying to bringing people together? How about Ukrainegate?.No If you have all the voting forms and recount them and then compare to the original tally and they are close then you have done an audit. Nothing destroyed, all the evidence rechecked is the correct analogy.

The Russia investigation was brought about by Trumps own AG. The Ukraine impeachment was brought about by Trump improperly withholding aid approved by congress in order to improperly influence Ukraine to do Trump a political favour. If you see nothing improper in that then you have a real problem as one day you will wake up to an idiot in power that you can't get rid of no matter how badly he behaves.

Villainy
03-19-22, 01:36
You have done a great job of convincing yourselves everything with the 2020 election was on the up and up, but you have not convinced most people who voted for Trump of anything. I saw a lot of shady shit and did not see one fucking deposition on the election. Not one.

So while you dummies keep trying to convince us that there was no fraud in 2020.....After the shit I saw in Georgia in 2020, I was certain the Dems would win both Senate races. You can call us stupid all you want to but the reason I am so certain you are going to get your asses kicked in 2022 and 2024 is because the shit you pulled in 2020 is not going to happen again. We'll see who is right or better yet get your excuses ready because you are going to need them.OK you're either stupid or badly uninformed.

Remember the Attorney General William Barr? You know. That Trump appointee? Do you remember when he told a reporter that the Justice Department had followed up on all the claims of voter fraud and found nothing that would change the election?

OH, I know you don't want to hear it because it conflicts with your BS story. Well here is the WSJ interview with the Attorney General so that you can read it with your own eyes from a conservative news source.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/william-barr-when-i-confronted-trump-about-election-fraud-11646323237

The dummy summary is that there just wasn't any substance to all the voter fraud claims. It was all sour-grapes flavored with BS.

MarquisdeSade1
03-19-22, 03:37
The Dems know Biden is washed up and the Party will not allow him to run for a 2nd term. They won't admit it, but quietly the Party is already looking for someone else to run in 24. The problem is they got nobody. Mrs. Clinton wants to run, that is why she started raising money, but more than half the country despises her. Michelle Obama & Oprah Winfrey are the only well known Dems with positive ratings and they are black women which counts for a lot in the woke-tard progressive wing of the party. Wouldn't that be an interesting campaign: Trump vs. Obama. But I think Michelle has better things to do and would rather spend her time living the good life than get into a knock down, no holds barred brawl with Trump. I could be wrong, however. Ha Ha.

Meanwhile Biden, I mean the Wizard of Oz, is slipping in the polls, surprise surprise, as the Ukraine War wears on, inflation runs wild, real wages are declining, a recession looms, the border is wide open, and violence surges in Democrat controlled cities. Good times!

The Rasmussen Report's daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 38% of Likely USA Voters approve of President Biden's job performance. Sixty percent (60%) disapprove. The latest figures include 20% who Strongly Approve of the job Biden is doing and 50% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -30.

Let's go Brandon!https://www.newsmax.com/michaeldorstewitz/big-tech-media-hunter-biden/2022/03/18/id/1061854/

MarquisdeSade1
03-19-22, 07:19
The Dems know Biden is washed up and the Party will not allow him to run for a 2nd term. They won't admit it, but quietly the Party is already looking for someone else to run in 24. The problem is they got nobody. Mrs. Clinton wants to run, that is why she started raising money, but more than half the country despises her. Michelle Obama & Oprah Winfrey are the only well known Dems with positive ratings and they are black women which counts for a lot in the woke-tard progressive wing of the party. Wouldn't that be an interesting campaign: Trump vs. Obama. But I think Michelle has better things to do and would rather spend her time living the good life than get into a knock down, no holds barred brawl with Trump. I could be wrong, however. Ha Ha.

Meanwhile Biden, I mean the Wizard of Oz, is slipping in the polls, surprise surprise, as the Ukraine War wears on, inflation runs wild, real wages are declining, a recession looms, the border is wide open, and violence surges in Democrat controlled cities. Good times!

The Rasmussen Report's daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 38% of Likely USA Voters approve of President Biden's job performance. Sixty percent (60%) disapprove. The latest figures include 20% who Strongly Approve of the job Biden is doing and 50% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -30.https://www.newsmax.com/denniskneale/cares-covid-opec/2022/03/18/id/1061863/

MarquisdeSade1
03-19-22, 07:28
https://www.newsmax.com/patrickbuchanan/united-states/2022/03/18/id/1061846/

Pat is correct, as per usual.

MarquisdeSade1
03-19-22, 07:34
That's the conundrum, isn't it? And it is one of the conundrums that supporters of the Orange Fruitcake can't wrap their little "minds" around. They can't explain it (obviously) so they simply ignore it by sticking their heads somewhere.https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/how-the-2020-election-was-rigged/

Elvis 2008
03-19-22, 07:57
No If you have all the voting forms and recount them and then compare to the original tally and they are close then you have done an audit. Nothing destroyed, all the evidence rechecked is the correct analogy.

The Russia investigation was brought about by Trumps own AG. The Ukraine impeachment was brought about by Trump improperly withholding aid approved by congress in order to improperly influence Ukraine to do Trump a political favour. If you see nothing improper in that then you have a real problem as one day you will wake up to an idiot in power that you can't get rid of no matter how badly he behaves.You Democrats and the swamp did everything humanly possible to get Trump out of office and to take down a duly elected president: Ukrainegate, Russiagate, 1-6 impeachment. There was no evidence in Russiagate. Ukrainegate was a mountain made out of mole hill and kept our eye off the ball with Covid. And you all are so afraid of Trump that you tried to impeach him out of office so he could not run again.

So you and "your no evidence of fraud" can kiss my ass. You Democrats are completely disrespectful not just to Trump but Trump voters and in attacking the voters are disrespectful to Democracy itself. All Trump voters are stupid? WTF is wrong with you?

Nothing would make you Democrats happier than one party rule. Your ideal form of government is China. Why in the hell would you expect us to accept the results of 2020 after you did all you could to void 2016?

Russiagate due to Trump's AG? Stop with your fucking bullshit excuses. You got PVMonger bragging about your failed impeachments. You Dems are PROUD of trying to void the 2016 election results. You have zero presumption of innocence on our part not after how you behaved.

And you are going to get slaughtered in 2022 and 2024 and you fucking know it. You fools wanted Trump out of office so bad you literally nominated and voted a guy with early onset dementia.

Elvis 2008
03-19-22, 08:05
This statement is just mind-blowing. If I assert that your house is mine, even though I can't prove it in a court of law, your house is still mine?So the swamp needs to go court to seize assets EJ? What color is the sky in your world? Your guy Biden is doing just that exact thing to Russians right now.

PVMonger
03-19-22, 15:25
Where's the proof? Does that mean it never happened? Wait for it, 2024 the anti-Democracy oligarchs and the DNC will probably go for a sequel of 2020.

Maybe they will just trigger the Civil War 2.0 instead.Even Democrats allege that the 1960 election was stolen? Really? The only people who believe that are, you guessed it, wingers?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2000/10/was-nixon-robbed.html

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-drama-behind-president-kennedys-1960-election-win/

Slippery Dick lost. And, you might remember, he was the guy some 10 years later got caught doing what? That's right folks! Cheating trying to win an election. "Don't change dicks in the middle of a screw, vote for Nixon in '72."

You just can't make this stuff up!

PVMonger
03-19-22, 15:30
OK you're either stupid or badly uninformed.

Remember the Attorney General William Barr? You know. That Trump appointee? Do you remember when he told a reporter that the Justice Department had followed up on all the claims of voter fraud and found nothing that would change the election?

OH, I know you don't want to hear it because it conflicts with your BS story. Well here is the WSJ interview with the Attorney General so that you can read it with your own eyes from a conservative news source.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/william-barr-when-i-confronted-trump-about-election-fraud-11646323237

The dummy summary is that there just wasn't any substance to all the voter fraud claims. It was all sour-grapes flavored with BS.C'Mon, man. These wingers don't consider the WSJ conservative enough. FUX "NewZ" is OK. But OAN, Newsmax and Infowars are the best.

ScatManDoo
03-19-22, 18:08
Where's the proof? Does that mean it never happened? Wait for it, 2024 the anti-Democracy oligarchs and the DNC will probably go for a sequel of 2020.

Maybe they will just trigger the Civil War 2.0 instead.I believe when Biden's record is compared against TrunpShit's record in 2024, the GOP will become reduced to becoming a permanent minor party as conservatives with principles will forever give up on he GOP and join other minority parties and dream of past glories.

Like when they had viable candidates.

MarquisdeSade1
03-19-22, 19:51
https://sputniknews.com/20220319/are-bidens-afghanistan--ukraine-blunders-behind-nyts-change-of-heart-about-hunters-laptop-1094010235.html

Are the oligarchs finally turning on him?

What next he will get covid and die?

Kamalas husband has it LOL.

Stay tuned.

Please stay safe Joe.

PVMonger
03-19-22, 20:01
You Democrats and the swamp did everything humanly possible to get Trump out of office and to take down a duly elected president: Ukrainegate, Russiagate, 1-6 impeachment. There was no evidence in Russiagate. Ukrainegate was a mountain made out of mole hill and kept our eye off the ball with Covid. And you all are so afraid of Trump that you tried to impeach him out of office so he could not run again.

So you and "your no evidence of fraud" can kiss my ass. You Democrats are completely disrespectful not just to Trump but Trump voters and in attacking the voters are disrespectful to Democracy itself. All Trump voters are stupid? WTF is wrong with you?

Nothing would make you Democrats happier than one party rule. Your ideal form of government is China. Why in the hell would you expect us to accept the results of 2020 after you did all you could to void 2016?

Russiagate due to Trump's AG? Stop with your fucking bullshit excuses. You got PVMonger bragging about your failed impeachments. You Dems are PROUD of trying to void the 2016 election results. You have zero presumption of innocence on our part not after how you behaved..You, yourself, said that we could call trump voters stupid all we wanted to. On 3/17 you said "You can call us stupid all you want".

So now we call you stupid and you get your panties in a wad? What a snowflake! And what was the t-shirt you (probably) wore proudly after the 2016 election? Something about "Fuck your feelings"? How's that playing now that Democrats say it back to you? For some reason, it was perfectly OK when Republicans did it but unfair when Democrats do it?

BTW, Democrats don't want one-party rule. What we want is for the Republican party to reflect American values. Healthy debate is fine and, in fact, our Republic functions best with it. What we don't want is for the Republican party to consist of white-supremacists, neo-Nazi's, Q-Anon believers, conspiracy theorists who think that Chinese thermostats changed voting machine votes, that the deep-state is run out of the basement of a basementless pizza parlor in DC and other members of the lunatic fringe.

But you just keep on with your Alice in Wonderland fantasies.

If you get your wish in 2024, be careful what you wish for. Because if the Mango Mussolini gets elected again, you'd better keep your head down. You think Putin is bad news, arresting Russians who protest against the war in Ukraine? The Orange Fruitcake will throw you in a concentration camp faster then you can say "what an idiot" after the first time you criticize him.

Axel Heyst
03-19-22, 20:20
You Democrats and the swamp did everything humanly possible to get Trump out of office and to take down a duly elected president: Ukrainegate, Russiagate, 1-6 impeachment. There was no evidence in Russiagate. Ukrainegate was a mountain made out of mole hill and kept our eye off the ball with Covid. And you all are so afraid of Trump that you tried to impeach him out of office so he could not run again.

So you and "your no evidence of fraud" can kiss my ass. You Democrats are completely disrespectful not just to Trump but Trump voters and in attacking the voters are disrespectful to Democracy itself. All Trump voters are stupid? WTF is wrong with you?

Nothing would make you Democrats happier than one party rule. Your ideal form of government is China. Why in the hell would you expect us to accept the results of 2020 after you did all you could to void 2016?

Russiagate due to Trump's AG? Stop with your fucking bullshit excuses. You got PVMonger bragging about your failed impeachments. You Dems are PROUD of trying to void the 2016 election results. You have zero presumption of innocence on our part not after how you behaved.

And you are going to get slaughtered in 2022 and 2024 and you fucking know it. You fools wanted Trump out of office so bad you literally nominated and voted a guy with early onset dementia.Brilliant. But don't forget it was voter interference IE the mass ballot bundling & harvesting in key democrat party controlled districts paid for by left wing fanatic, billionaire, partisans like Soros and that Facebook asshole that turned the election in favor of the idiot from Delaware. Any open minded, rational, individual would be skeptical of the 99% vote count of these ballots, so naturally the radicals IE the Democratic Party wants to make make ballot bundling & harvesting legal nation wide, outlaw voter ID completely, and allow illegal aliens to vote. This is the only way they can win in 2022 & 2024 and they know it. This is how American Marxism trying to take control under the appearance of democracy to hide it's true identity of totalitarian dictatorship.

Biden is just a tool of the Left. He has no idea of what is going on or how he got to the Whitehouse. Let's go Brandon.

ScatManDoo
03-19-22, 20:34
You Democrats and the swamp did everything humanly possible to get Trump out of office and to take down a duly elected president: Ukrainegate, Russiagate, 1-6 impeachment. There was no evidence in Russiagate. Ukrainegate was a mountain made out of mole hill and kept our eye off the ball with Covid. And you all are so afraid of Trump that you tried to impeach him out of office so he could not run again.

So you and "your no evidence of fraud" can kiss my ass. You Democrats are completely disrespectful not just to Trump but Trump voters and in attacking the voters are disrespectful to Democracy itself. All Trump voters are stupid? WTF is wrong with you?

Nothing would make you Democrats happier than one party rule. Your ideal form of government is China. Why in the hell would you expect us to accept the results of 2020 after you did all you could to void 2016?

Russiagate due to Trump's AG? Stop with your fucking bullshit excuses. You got PVMonger bragging about your failed impeachments. You Dems are PROUD of trying to void the 2016 election results. You have zero presumption of innocence on our part not after how you behaved..Covid kept getting worse and worse, when it didn't have to, for months and months under TrumpShit.

It's now finally getting better under Biden.

We hemorrhaged the strongest loss of jobs ever under TrumpShit mismanagement, with only record growth under Joe and Kamela. Yeah!

The Independent voter has been moving in just one logical direction since 2017.

Independents took away the House, then later the White House and Senate from the party that failed them.

The only thing left is for TrumpShit to turn the GOP into a permanent also ran.

Remember it as a formally significant political party that ran into fatal decline.

And died from eating too much bullshit. HaHaHaHaHa.

Paulie97
03-19-22, 21:38
C'Mon, man. These wingers don't consider the WSJ conservative enough. FUX "NewZ" is OK. But OAN, Newsmax and Infowars are the best.Don't forget Russian state news!

ScatManDoo
03-19-22, 21:57
Brilliant. But don't forget it was voter interference IE the mass ballot bundling & harvesting in key democrat party controlled districts paid for by left wing fanatic, billionaire, partisans like Soros and that Facebook asshole that turned the election in favor of the idiot from Delaware. Any open minded, rational, individual would be skeptical of the 99% vote count of these ballots, so naturally the radicals IE the Democratic Party wants to make make ballot bundling & harvesting legal nation wide, outlaw voter ID completely, and allow illegal aliens to vote. This is the only way they can win in 2022 & 2024 and they know it. This is how American Marxism trying to take control under the appearance of democracy to hide it's true identity of totalitarian dictatorship.

Biden is just a tool of the Left. He has no idea of what is going on or how he got to the Whitehouse. Let's go Brandon.The predicable decline for the GOP was in electing an orange babboon in 2016.

The babboon shits everywhere.

They let the babboon run the party and kill it since 2017.

Eventually they'll lose all competitiveness and die.

MarquisdeSade1
03-19-22, 22:17
Even Democrats allege that the 1960 election was stolen? Really? The only people who believe that are, you guessed it, wingers?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2000/10/was-nixon-robbed.html

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-drama-behind-president-kennedys-1960-election-win/

Slippery Dick lost. And, you might remember, he was the guy some 10 years later got caught doing what? That's right folks! Cheating trying to win an election. "Don't change dicks in the middle of a screw, vote for Nixon in '72."

You just can't make this stuff up!He was accused of trying and resigned.

During university courses I remember many very liberal profs laughing how the dems cheated to hand it to JFK mainly in Chicago with Daley and LBJ in Texas.

And over the yrs when something would pop up many left wing historians or pundits like Paul Begala or Carville elude to the fact that this "isn't the cheating of JFK" and laugh.

Or Michael Beschloss they all thought it was funny, now come the revisionists that will say that never happened, lest we have a clear cut example of it happening before, oooops.

They don't like that its hurting the ability of dirtbags to try and say that it didn't happen again in 2020, "its not even possible".

You just can't make this stuff up! ? seriously that's all you do is make shit up.

Baghdad Bob had more credibility than you!!

MarquisdeSade1
03-19-22, 22:22
The predicable decline for the GOP was in electing an orange babboon in 2016.

The babboon shits everywhere.

They let the babboon run the party and kill it since 2017.

Eventually they'll lose all competitiveness and die.Wait for Nov 2022 and the Nov 2024.

https://www.amazon.com/American-Greatness-Conservatism-Election-Establishment/dp/1944229841

Nice review.

Z!!

MarquisdeSade1
03-20-22, 00:03
Even Democrats allege that the 1960 election was stolen?

You just can't make this stuff up!

https://www.newsweek.com/top-five-rigged-us-presidential-elections-511765

1960: John F. Kennedy vs. Richard Nixon.

Earl Mazo, a Washington reporter for the New York Herald Tribune, began his investigation after he said Chicago reporters were "chastising" him and other national reporters for missing the real story.

He traveled to Chicago, obtained a list of voters in the suspicious precincts, and began matching names with addresses. Mazo told The Washington Post:

There was a cemetery where the names on the tombstones were registered and voted. I remember a house. It was completely gutted. There was nobody there. But there were 56 votes for Kennedy in that house.

Mazo also found that Chicago Mayor Richard Daley's charge that other counties were doing the same thing in favor of Republicans proved to be true—but nothing on the scale of what happened in Chicago.

In Texas, Mazo found similar circumstances.

The New York Herald Tribune planned a 12-part series on the election fraud. Four of the stories had been published and were republished in newspapers across the country in mid-December.

At Richard Nixon's request, Mazo met him at the vice president's Senate office, where Nixon told him to back off, saying, "Our country cannot afford the agony of a constitutional crisis" in the midst of the Cold War.

Mazo didn't back off, and Nixon called his editors. The newspaper did not run the rest of the series. "I know I was terribly disappointed. I envisioned the Pulitzer Prize," Mazo said.

The entire matter wasn't void of accountability.

Illinois state special prosecutor Morris Wexler, named to investigate charges of election fraud in Chicago, indicted 677 election officials, but couldn't nail down convictions with state Judge John Karns.

It wasn't until 1962, when an election worker confessed to witness tampering in Chicago's 28th Ward, that three precinct workers pleaded guilty and served jail sentences.

Pulitzer-winning journalist Seymour Hersh reported hearing tapes of FBI wiretaps about potential election fraud. Hersh—whose books indicate he is a fan of neither Kennedy nor Nixon—believed Nixon was the rightful winner.

From Newsweek in 2016 now we can add 2020 to the list.

Canada
03-20-22, 00:33
The predicable decline for the GOP was in electing an orange babboon in 2016.

The babboon shits everywhere.

They let the babboon run the party and kill it since 2017.

Eventually they'll lose all competitiveness and die.This post is going to look pretty foolish actually dumb come November when Republicans retake the house and senate. Talking about killing a party look at the facts. Biden incompetence has decimated the democrats who will get slaughtered in November.

Canada
03-20-22, 00:34
Brilliant. But don't forget it was voter interference IE the mass ballot bundling & harvesting in key democrat party controlled districts paid for by left wing fanatic, billionaire, partisans like Soros and that Facebook asshole that turned the election in favor of the idiot from Delaware. Any open minded, rational, individual would be skeptical of the 99% vote count of these ballots, so naturally the radicals IE the Democratic Party wants to make make ballot bundling & harvesting legal nation wide, outlaw voter ID completely, and allow illegal aliens to vote. This is the only way they can win in 2022 & 2024 and they know it. This is how American Marxism trying to take control under the appearance of democracy to hide it's true identity of totalitarian dictatorship.

Biden is just a tool of the Left. He has no idea of what is going on or how he got to the Whitehouse. Let's go Brandon.So true but socialists don't accept the truth. They are in total denial.

MarquisdeSade1
03-20-22, 01:09
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-inflation-oil-russia/2022/03/16/id/1061565/

Elvis 2008
03-20-22, 01:32
You, yourself, said that we could call trump voters stupid all we wanted to. On 3/17 you said "You can call us stupid all you want".Go ahead. It shows everyone that you want one party rule.


BTW, Democrats don't want one-party rule.When you call all of us stupid, you pretty much show us you do. I do not call Democrats stupid. I understand why some people vote Democrat, but you do not get the opposite. Everyone who voted for Trump was stupid. There was no good reason for anyone to vote for Trump. That tells me you are a closed minded, one party, fascist dumb ass.


Healthy debate is fine and, in fact, our Republic functions best with it. What we don't want is for the Republican party to consist of white-supremacists, neo-Nazi's, Q-Anon believers, conspiracy theorists who think that Chinese thermostats changed voting machine votes, that the deep-state is run out of the basement of a basementless pizza parlor in DC and other members of the lunatic fringe.What is the difference between Q'Anon / the basement and Russiagate? They were both baseless conspiracy theories. And how many guys went to Epstein Island? And do you believe Epstein hung himself? You have to be out of mind to think that Epstein was the only pedophilia ring.

White supremacist is a Democratic code phrase to allow blacks to be racist towards whites, and it is comical to see the racism in the movies now. I was watching Death on the Nile and not only did the black women not do it (of course not and it was predictable), they were made out to be angels. A mother in the 1930's was checking out her white fuck up of a son being in love with a black woman, and the fact that she was black in the 1930's was totally okay, no revision of history there. And one reason she was such a good woman was she "paid her taxes" and no I am not making that up. I have not watched the Black Widow yet but my son told me that my ex-wife did not like how anti-male it was and the best male character in it was actually a woman in disguise.

In the Batman, which I liked, the phrase "white supremacist" was in the movie. The main bad guy was white, and all the corrupt cops and government officials were white to boot. The blacks were all honest and squeaky clean. And the villains were all white. We have a black Captain America now so I was waiting for a black Batman but they did not go that, but they did make him very, very young. It is the old white men who are the most evil.

What we Republicans call equal treatment of the races you call White Supremacy. Asians and whites do better on the SAT than blacks, so the SAT has to be racist. Blacks do better at music and sports but that is not racist. Blacks just do better at those things. What was funny in Virginia and why Dems lost there in part was because Asians were called white supremacists which is ironic because a lot of my Asian friends have had to deal with real racism themselves.


The Orange Fruitcake will throw you in a concentration camp faster then you can say "what an idiot" after the first time you criticize him.That is ridiculous. Unlike you Dems who want to censor everything, Trump never called for censorship as president.

Elvis 2008
03-20-22, 01:58
Brilliant. But don't forget it was voter interference IE the mass ballot bundling & harvesting in key democrat party controlled districts paid for by left wing fanatic, billionaire, partisans like Soros and that Facebook asshole that turned the election in favor of the idiot from Delaware. Any open minded, rational, individual would be skeptical of the 99% vote count of these ballots, so naturally the radicals IE the Democratic Party wants to make make ballot bundling & harvesting legal nation wide, outlaw voter ID completely, and allow illegal aliens to vote. This is the only way they can win in 2022 & 2024 and they know it. This is how American Marxism trying to take control under the appearance of democracy to hide it's true identity of totalitarian dictatorship.

Biden is just a tool of the Left. He has no idea of what is going on or how he got to the Whitehouse. Let's go Brandon.Great post! Thing with Q'Anon is that most Republicans did not buy into that. But every Democrat I knew bought into Russiagate.

It is stuff like this that makes my head spin. https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/04/28/georgia-secretary-of-state-accepted-5-million-from-zuckerberg-backed-group.html.

Zuckerberg and his wife give nearly $70 million away and for what? Fairness? And there is this, "Jones also pointed out that having the office accept the funds and distribute it fairly around the state was something endorsed by the Republican legislature. " Hmm, why do I not think that is true?

And then you have this, https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1505212737709780992/photo/1.

And Democrats are like, "What swamp are you talking about?" This fucking swamp! The swamp where people in the intelligence community and main stream media are Democrats first and Americans second.

It is funny that Dems make up the fact that Trump was a Russian puppet, say Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation, used Ukraine as their piggy bank, and are stunned why Putin acted as he did.

Hunter Biden's laptop was not because the Bidens were evil; it was because Putin was, and he planted it. Give me a fucking break. How can Putin believe anything you say after that can be in good faith? He already knows Biden and the USA intelligence community are a bunch of fucking liars.

GDreams
03-20-22, 02:23
You Democrats and the swamp did everything humanly possible to get Trump out of office and to take down a duly elected president: Ukrainegate, Russiagate, 1-6 impeachment. There was no evidence in Russiagate. Ukrainegate was a mountain made out of mole hill and kept our eye off the ball with Covid. And you all are so afraid of Trump that you tried to impeach him out of office so he could not run again.

So you and "your no evidence of fraud" can kiss my ass. You Democrats are completely disrespectful not just to Trump but Trump voters and in attacking the voters are disrespectful to Democracy itself. All Trump voters are stupid? WTF is wrong with you?

Nothing would make you Democrats happier than one party rule. Your ideal form of government is China. Why in the hell would you expect us to accept the results of 2020 after you did all you could to void 2016?

Russiagate due to Trump's AG? Stop with your fucking bullshit excuses. You got PVMonger bragging about your failed impeachments. You Dems are PROUD of trying to void the 2016 election results. You have zero presumption of innocence on our part not after how you behaved..I didn't really support Biden as a candidate. I would have preferred Bloomberg from those that had a chance, but was disappointed with the field they put up.

The reality is Trump is a criminal. If you cannot see that then you have a real issue. As for the Russia investigation it was fueled by Trumps behaviour. 10 counts of Obstruction of Justice! What was he so desperate to hide?

You have Michael Flynn who seriously proposed a military takeover of the government.

You complain about the Ukraine impeachment when Trump did something that if occurred in 1970 would have had the Republican party showing him the door like they did with Nixon. Now the Republicans are all about power and looking after donors.

You complain about fraud but never mention all the voter suppression and Gerrymandering that goes on with Republicans. How about independent redistricting and independent running of polls? I have no problem with that but would republicans win that way? The best Government is where there are slim majorities so each side needs to work with each other.

Cali Guy
03-20-22, 02:45
Great post! Thing with Q'Anon is that most Republicans did not buy into that. But every Democrat I knew bought into Russiagate.

It is stuff like this that makes my head spin. https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/04/28/georgia-secretary-of-state-accepted-5-million-from-zuckerberg-backed-group.html.

Zuckerberg and his wife give nearly $70 million away and for what? Fairness? And there is this, "Jones also pointed out that having the office accept the funds and distribute it fairly around the state was something endorsed by the Republican legislature. " Hmm, why do I not think that is true?

And then you have this, https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1505212737709780992/photo/1.

And Democrats are like, "What swamp are you talking about?" This fucking swamp! The swamp where people in the intelligence community and main stream media are Democrats first and Americans second.

It is funny that Dems make up the fact that Trump was a Russian puppet, say Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation, used Ukraine as their piggy bank, and are stunned why Putin acted as he did.

Hunter Biden's laptop was not because the Bidens were evil; it was because Putin was, and he planted it. Give me a fucking break. How can Putin believe anything you say after that can be in good faith? He already knows Biden and the USA intelligence community are a bunch of fucking liars.Factual and proven true.

Cali Guy
03-20-22, 02:50
I believe when Biden's record is compared against TrunpShit's record in 2024, the GOP will become reduced to becoming a permanent minor party as conservatives with principles will forever give up on he GOP and join other minority parties and dream of past glories.

Like when they had viable candidates.The democrats are running from Biden. Every house and senate democrat does not want Biden endorsement. They are staying as far away as possible from his continued incompetence and disasters. Putin has him wrapped around his little finger. There may not be a democrat party after November.

ScatManDoo
03-20-22, 03:20
This post is going to look pretty foolish actually dumb come November when Republicans retake the house and senate. Talking about killing a party look at the facts. Biden incompetence has decimated the democrats who will get slaughtered in November.The democrats thin voting edge in the Senate is certain to strengthen.

The republicans in the Senate have many more seats to defend than the superior party.

And all five open seats (without incumbents running) are former GOP seats.

Democrats will be stronger in the Senate after the November midterms.

MarquisdeSade1
03-20-22, 04:21
So true but socialists don't accept the truth. They are in total denial.https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/03/19/poll-plurality-says-country-more-divided-since-joe-biden-took-office/

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/03/18/maher-were-lumping-in-russian-people-with-their-government-and-if-they-werent-white-we-would-call-that-racism/

https://nationalinterest.org/feature/joe-biden-embracing-authoritarianism-199547

MarquisdeSade1
03-20-22, 05:39
I didn't really support Biden as a candidate. I would have preferred Bloomberg from those that had a chance, but was disappointed with the field they put up.

The reality is Trump is a criminal. If you cannot see that then you have a real issue. As for the Russia investigation it was fueled by Trumps behaviour. 10 counts of Obstruction of Justice! What was he so desperate to hide?

You have Michael Flynn who seriously proposed a military takeover of the government.

You complain about the Ukraine impeachment when Trump did something that if occurred in 1970 would have had the Republican party showing him the door like they did with Nixon. Now the Republicans are all about power and looking after donors.

You complain about fraud but never mention all the voter suppression and Gerrymandering that goes on with Republicans. How about independent redistricting and independent running of polls? I have no problem with that but would republicans win that way? The best Government is where there are slim majorities so each side needs to work with each other.https://amgreatness.com/2022/03/19/bidens-handlers-are-preparing-to-eject-him-and-kamala/

PVMonger
03-20-22, 16:20
Go ahead. It shows everyone that you want one party rule.

When you call all of us stupid, you pretty much show us you do. I do not call Democrats stupid. I understand why some people vote Democrat, but you do not get the opposite. Everyone who voted for Trump was stupid. There was no good reason for anyone to vote for Trump. That tells me you are a closed minded, one party, fascist dumb ass.

What is the difference between Q'Anon / the basement and Russiagate? They were both baseless conspiracy theories. And how many guys went to Epstein Island? And do you believe Epstein hung himself? You have to be out of mind to think that Epstein was the only pedophilia ring...You don't call Democrats stupid? No, you call them douches instead. Lots of times. Want me to show you the 50+ posts?

The people who voted for the Orange Fruitcake were, by and large, older, white and high-school educated and lived in states that take more from the Federal Government than they provide. The voted for Cheeto Tweeto against their own best interests. They voted for less healthcare, higher taxes etc. All so they could retain power.

Except Russiagate was not a conspiracy theory. It was fact. There were multiple contacts, as mentioned in the Mueller report, between the Orange Buffoon's campaign and Russian agents. You and every other winger will point to the report and say "No conspiracy". Except that Mueller didn't investigate "collusion", he investigated "criminal conspiracy" which is a different thing. But, to use your own words, "just because it doesn't meet the legal definition doesn't mean it doesn't exist". Why do wingers think "no evidence" is OK for fraud but not for conspiracy? That's one thing that makes you out-of-touch.

You really need to get off this white-supremacist and racist thing. When you post the nonsense that you posted above, it just shows how little you understand and it shows everyone how far off the deep end you've really gone. You know nothing about racism except what FUX "NewZ" tells you to think. It all boils down to one simple thing for most wingers. They are still upset, many years after the fact, that a black guy was elected President. Everything you posted is straight out of the winger playbook of "we're white and we're aggrieved".

The Orange Buffoon didn't censor anybody? What planet have you been living on? He called the media the enemy of the people FFS.

If your post wasn't so ludicrous, it would be comical.

Canada
03-20-22, 16:45
The democrats thin voting edge in the Senate is certain to strengthen.

The republicans in the Senate have many more seats to defend than the superior party.

And all five open seats (without incumbents running) are former GOP seats.

Democrats will be stronger in the Senate after the November midterms.Independents and Democrats were fooled and voted for Biden. Independents won't be that stupid again. Democrats probably will be that stupid. Biden incompetence and his disaster of a first year will ensure GOP dominance. You keep thinking Americans are stupid. You keep thinking inflation and $7 gas won't affect the election. Biden inflation and his handling of Afghanistan and Russia will also help the GOP. Biden killing thousands of Ukrainians will also hurt the democrats. But you keep your brain in fantasyland.

MarquisdeSade1
03-20-22, 19:54
Independents and Democrats were fooled and voted for Biden. Independents won't be that stupid again. Democrats probably will be that stupid. Biden incompetence and his disaster of a first year will ensure GOP dominance. You keep thinking Americans are stupid. You keep thinking inflation and $7 gas won't affect the election. Biden inflation and his handling of Afghanistan and Russia will also help the GOP. Biden killing thousands of Ukrainians will also hurt the democrats. But you keep your brain in fantasyland.https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/hunter-biden-laptop-foreign-policy/2022/03/20/id/1062067/

They can fill a whole cell block, 2 Bidens 2 Clintons, 2 Pelosi's, mitch and his hideous wife et al.

A bunch of low rent grifters, the lot of them!!

Z!

ScatManDoo
03-20-22, 21:25
That the first electric vehicle that will sell 100 million units (If you count the predictable knockoffs from Asian countries) was introduced to the public last month at its new factory in Oregon.

I think half a million units could sell in California alone by the end of 2024.

Next year California will have more public charging stations than it has gas stations.

And this new electric vehicle won't need even one of California's (greater than 10,000) public electric charging stations.

Canada
03-20-22, 21:40
You don't call Democrats stupid? No, you call them douches instead. Lots of times. Want me to show you the 50+ posts?

The people who voted for the Orange Fruitcake were, by and large, older, white and high-school educated and lived in states that take more from the Federal Government than they provide. The voted for Cheeto Tweeto against their own best interests. They voted for less healthcare, higher taxes etc. All so they could retain power.

Except Russiagate was not a conspiracy theory. It was fact. There were multiple contacts, as mentioned in the Mueller report, between the Orange Buffoon's campaign and Russian agents. You and every other winger will point to the report and say "No conspiracy". Except that Mueller didn't investigate "collusion", he investigated "criminal conspiracy" which is a different thing. But, to use your own words, "just because it doesn't meet the legal definition doesn't mean it doesn't exist". Why do wingers think "no evidence" is OK for fraud but not for conspiracy? That's one thing that makes you out-of-touch..He told it like it was. Just because you are racist and in denial probably means you don't understand the DNC and Clinton collusion with Russia. Problem was fake news thought it was Trump that was colluding with the Russians but it was Clinton and DNC from the start. If you aren't smart enough to acknowledge it then you probably shouldn't be making comments. The only racism I have seen lately is from Biden. His pick for Supreme Court proves he is biggest racist ever by not allowing 94% of population be eligible. Amazing you keep talking about racism and the democrats are the majority of racists in USA.

Cali Guy
03-20-22, 21:51
Zelenskyy blasts Biden for stonewalling aid to Ukraine. Zelenskyy accuses Biden of making promises to Ukraine and then waiting weeks before anything gets done which allows Putin to continue his onslaught on innocent people. Biden and his incompetent White House staff create unnecessary delays allowing Putin certain victory. Europe is reacting quickly to Ukraine needs but USA is lagging behind. Probably intentionally to allow Putin victory. Three Europe leaders went to Ukraine. Biden will go to Belgium. Biden is a disgrace to the world.

Elvis 2008
03-21-22, 02:06
You don't call Democrats stupid? No, you call them douches instead. Lots of times. Want me to show you the 50+ posts?There is a huge difference between someone who votes Democrat and a Democratic douche. You are obviously the latter. If you think Jimmy Carter was a good president, you are a Democratic douche. If you think Biden had no effect on gasoline prices, you are a Democratic douche.


The people who voted for the Orange Fruitcake were, by and large, older, white and high-school educated and lived in states that take more from the Federal Government than they provide. The voted for Cheeto Tweeto against their own best interests. They voted for less healthcare, higher taxes etc. All so they could retain power.And here you go demonizing Trump voters and calling them stupid, another DD move. Did you ever consider people voting for Trump were anti-war? I did. All your DD fucking bitching about Trump, and I asked you DDs two questions: Did he start any wars? And is the economy terrible? If both are no, he is not that bad, and you guys went to impeach him throughout his entire presidency. The impeachments showed how many anti-Democracy DDs there were who could not stand that Trump won.


Except Russiagate was not a conspiracy theory.OMG. And here we go again.


You really need to get off this white-supremacist and racist thing. When you post the nonsense that you posted above, it just shows how little you understand and it shows everyone how far off the deep end you've really gone. You know nothing about racism except what FUX "NewZ" tells you to think. It all boils down to one simple thing for most wingers. They are still upset, many years after the fact, that a black guy was elected President. Everything you posted is straight out of the winger playbook of "we're white and we're aggrieved"..LOL. YOU need to get off a racist agenda. When Hollyweird is making movies and I can predict their outcomes based on race, YOUR side is being racist, and I voted for Obama. He was a better candidate than McCain or Romney. Has a Republican running for president ever been a better candidate with you? If you are a DD, the answer is no. And WTF is the phrase "white supremacy" doing in a fucking batman movie?


The Orange Buffoon didn't censor anybody? What planet have you been living on? He called the media the enemy of the people FFS.OMG. Just stop. That is not censorship. Clinton demonized the media too. Your entire post is trash, and it does not have one speck of objectivity. And the race part was particularly disgusting. You guys lost Virginia because you called Asians "white supremacists". Do they need to stop too? And who are the fuck are you that you get to decide who gets to talk about racism?

EihTooms
03-21-22, 11:06
This is a great site for comparing cumulative and annualized USA jobs market growth among recent presidents. Just choose and enter any 2 or more presidents and get a line chart for results that even the dumbest and least informed winger can understand:

"Jobs Created and Jobs Growth By President: Compare Jobs Across US Presidents"https://www.factsarefirst.com/metrics/jobs-growth/.

You want to see a hilarious contrast between the critical economic factor of jobs growth success vs abysmal jobs growth failure? Just enter Jimmy Carter and / or Joe Biden and compare their results to Trump or any other Repub. LOL.

Well, comparing any Dem results vs any and all Repub results proves that consistent Dem voters are truly economic and jobs creation geniuses compared to the consistent Repub voters' apparent hatred for creating USA jobs.

Canada
03-21-22, 14:29
There is a huge difference between someone who votes Democrat and a Democratic douche. You are obviously the latter. If you think Jimmy Carter was a good president, you are a Democratic douche. If you think Biden had no effect on gasoline prices, you are a Democratic douche.

And here you go demonizing Trump voters and calling them stupid, another DD move. Did you ever consider people voting for Trump were anti-war? I did. All your DD fucking bitching about Trump, and I asked you DDs two questions: Did he start any wars? And is the economy terrible? If both are no, he is not that bad, and you guys went to impeach him throughout his entire presidency. The impeachments showed how many anti-Democracy DDs there were who could not stand that Trump won.

OMG. And here we go again.

LOL. YOU need to get off a racist agenda. When Hollyweird is making movies and I can predict their outcomes based on race, YOUR side is being racist, and I voted for Obama. He was a better candidate than McCain or Romney. Has a Republican running for president ever been a better candidate with you? If you are a DD, the answer is no.Great post. You are correct on everything.

MarquisdeSade1
03-21-22, 15:18
The democrats are running from Biden. Every house and senate democrat does not want Biden endorsement. They are staying as far away as possible from his continued incompetence and disasters. Putin has him wrapped around his little finger. There may not be a democrat party after November.https://sputniknews.com/20220321/babylon-bee-suspended-on-twitter-over-satirical-article-about-rachel-levine-named-man-of-the-year-1094043562.html

PVMonger
03-21-22, 16:18
There is a huge difference between someone who votes Democrat and a Democratic douche. You are obviously the latter. If you think Jimmy Carter was a good president, you are a Democratic douche. If you think Biden had no effect on gasoline prices, you are a Democratic douche.

And here you go demonizing Trump voters and calling them stupid, another DD move. Did you ever consider people voting for Trump were anti-war? I did. All your DD fucking bitching about Trump, and I asked you DDs two questions: Did he start any wars? And is the economy terrible? If both are no, he is not that bad, and you guys went to impeach him throughout his entire presidency. The impeachments showed how many anti-Democracy DDs there were who could not stand that Trump won.

OMG. And here we go again.

LOL. YOU need to get off a racist agenda. When Hollyweird is making movies and I can predict their outcomes based on race, YOUR side is being racist, and I voted for Obama. He was a better candidate than McCain or Romney. Has a Republican running for president ever been a better candidate with you? If you are a DD, the answer is no.You are the most, or one of the most, out-of-touch people on this board. Everything you post is either flat out wrong or a Republicant talking point (and those are usually flat-out wrong, too).

Ahhhh, there's a difference between someone who votes Democratic and a Democratic douche? You accuse me of being a Democratic douche and yet you have no idea about my voting history. But that's typical of a Republicant.

I demonized people who supported Cheeto Tweeto and called them stupid by saying this?: "The people who voted for the Orange Fruitcake were, by and large, older, white and high-school educated and lived in states that take more from the Federal Government than they provide. The voted for Cheeto Tweeto against their own best interests. They voted for less healthcare, higher taxes etc. All so they could retain power. " Please highlight the word stupid in the above quote. Go on, do it and show everybody how ignorant you really are.

War? Why would any dictator go to war with the Orange Buffoon. He was giving them all they wanted. He told Putin that he was going to pull out of NATO if he got re-elected. All Putin had to do was wait. He put tariffs on China and then lied to the American people and said that China was actually paying for the tariffs. How dumb does someone have to be to swallow that malarky?

Economy? Really? How many net jobs were lost under the Mango Mussolini's watch? Don't bring up COVID because he bungled our response to that as well. If you bring up COVID. You'd be like the kid who murdered his parents who then asks the judge for leniency because he is an orphan.

People who voted for the Mango Mussolini might have been anti-war, but many of them were white supremacists. White supremacists want war. At least war on POC. How many white supremacist votes did Biden receive? Many who voted for the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy were homophobic and transphobic. Many people who are transphobic and homophobic would just as soon lynch them as look at them. How many of those votes did Biden receive? The point of all of this is to show you that most who voted for the Orange Buffoon are just lily-livered cowards who hate everyone who isn't just like them. And the Mango Mussolini played into those fears. "Biden will destroy your neighborhood and your American Dream. " That's what he tweeted. Live and let live just isn't in the cards for you. Unless, of course, the folks you are letting live are white and straight and Republicant.

So you want Hollywood to regulate movies? You want government to do what, censor them? Or somehow tell them what lines to include? What drivel. Hollywood makes movies for audiences, as is their right. If you don't want to watch, don't watch. But sure, feel free to criticize a movie because there are too many black actors or because there are too many mixed-race marriages or too many homosexuals or too many transsexuals. You are a snowflake.

Republicants always seem to think censorship is only something Democrats do. Are Democrats banning books that discuss subjects that make white people uncomfortable? Nope, only Republicants are doing that. Are Democrats trying to pass laws that limit what a private business can discuss in terms of race? Nope, again. Only Republicants are doing that. If you post a negative comment about the Orange Buffoon on Pravda Social and get booted, it isn't censorship. But if you post a negative comment about Biden on Facebook and get booted, that's censorship. More drivel.

In fact, your entire post is drivel. Everybody on the board knows it. Well, everybody but wingers.

EihTooms
03-21-22, 19:25
I notice no winger posted an excerpt of recently discovered winger favorite Bill Maher's show this time around after the question he thought was worth asking, "Why didn't Putin invade Ukraine when his boyfriend Trump was in office"? Got well and surely answered for the umpteenth time by intelligent, well-informed people;.

Because Putin didn't need to.

https://youtu.be/RET6fG_uqP4


MR. MAHER: But I know you were watching our show last week and you heard me say, Why didnt Putin invade Ukraine when his boyfriend, Trump was in office? I mean, Trump stood with him at Helsinki and defended him over our own intelligence agencies. So I was just asking the question. And maybe you do have an answer. Why not? When Trump was in office, it would seem to be the more logical place.
MR. BROOKS: No, he didnt invade because he didnt need to, because you only roll out the tanks when you think youre out of options. And Putin had a grand asymmetric strategy to dismantle NATO from within. And it was working. When the commander in chief of the United States Armed Forces calls NATO obsolete, you are on the road to a fifth column victory, and thats what he was doing. And its a matter of fact we know now in 2018 Trump wanted to pull out of NATO, and it was John Kelly and John Bolton who had to hold him down like a rabid dog to stop him from doing that. And if Trump had won a second term, he would have done it. But Biden being elected caused Putins plan to go up in smoke.
MAHER: Whats so surprising to me about Putin? We always knew he was evil, but nobody ever called him dumb. And now he looks dumb. He looks dumb and not powerful. You know, I honestly, I was wrong. I thought he was not going to invade. I thought it was just brinksmanship. But now like, this could really go so bad for him. I mean, the Russians have had a revolution before. And when you have the morale of the army, we know is where it is, when you have the economy tanking the way it is. I mean, it looks like they pulled back the curtain and the Wizard of Oz is just this old man with the sound machine.Sure enough:

Putin's Russia looks increasingly desperate as Ukraine war nears stalemate, analysts say

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/21/putins-russia-looks-increasingly-desperate-as-ukraine-war-drags-analysts.html?__source=androidappshare.
President Vladimir Putins forces have exerted brutal force and destruction on much of Ukraine.

They have forced many to flee and made millions homeless, but the invasion has failed to achieve major military victories.

The capital of Kyiv, second-largest city of Kharkiv, and even besieged and heavily damaged Mariupol are holding on despite weeks of shelling, destruction and deprivation.

Analysts say Russia is faced with more military and economic losses.Meanwhile, under Biden the Fed has to raise interest rates in hopes of cooling down an overheated, roaring USA economy that is creating way more jobs with higher wages than there are applicants to take them and, for the first time since another Dem was POTUS, the USA is not at war with any country.

Elvis 2008
03-21-22, 20:54
In fact, your entire post is drivel. Everybody on the board knows it. Well, everybody but wingers.I am glad everyone knows it. https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7456/Who-will-win-the-2024-US-presidential-election.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7172/What-will-be-the-balance-of-power-in-Congress-after-the-2022-election

If you put your money where you mouth is, you should make a killing.

But let us be honest. The surest bet of all is that you will not make one.

Axel Heyst
03-21-22, 21:23
Years from now, scholars and historians will ask why the people lost faith in the press. The Fourth Estate has long been an essential part of America's development, never perfect but essential.

Then Donald Trump ran for office in 2016:

Trump secured the Republican nomination. Suddenly reports and unflattering videos were released. But his supporters overlooked them because they disliked being manipulated by the press and their suspect timing.

Trump won the presidency. The Russia Collusion narrative took off. Two impeachments led to nothing.

During the 2020 election, the press overtly rallied around Joe Biden, discrediting the New York Post's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. A story that raised important questions regarding Joe Biden and his son and could have changed the outcome of the election. Then over a year into Biden's presidency, that story which was hammered by the press, was now confirmed as accurate by the liberal New York Times.

When you write it out, it seems obvious. We do not have an honest press anymore.

Canada
03-21-22, 23:22
This is a great site for comparing cumulative and annualized USA jobs market growth among recent presidents. Just choose and enter any 2 or more presidents and get a line chart for results that even the dumbest and least informed winger can understand:

"Jobs Created and Jobs Growth By President: Compare Jobs Across US Presidents"https://www.factsarefirst.com/metrics/jobs-growth/.

You want to see a hilarious contrast between the critical economic factor of jobs growth success vs abysmal jobs growth failure? Just enter Jimmy Carter and / or Joe Biden and compare their results to Trump or any other Repub. LOL.

Well, comparing any Dem results vs any and all Repub results proves that consistent Dem voters are truly economic and jobs creation geniuses compared to the consistent Repub voters' apparent hatred for creating USA jobs.Sorry there isn't anyone on this forum dumb enough to look at fake news for fake information. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe any of this liberal fake news links. You are going to have to keep this to yourself.

Paulie97
03-22-22, 00:30
Years from now, scholars and historians will ask why the people lost faith in the press. The Fourth Estate has long been an essential part of America's development, never perfect but essential. Yes, they will hopefully reflect and look at the treasonous actions of Tucker Carlson, pushing the propaganda of our enemies in a time of war. Plus the stolen election lunacies, the rewriting of history in the deadly attack at our Capital aimed at stopping an election certification, and after GOPs morons like Mo Brooks told them to "kick ass and take names. " There's of course much more, across the spectrum of right wing nut fake news sources and blogs, that keeps suckers like you stirred up daily.


Trump secured the Republican nomination. Suddenly reports and unflattering videos were released. But his supporters overlooked them because they disliked being manipulated by the press and their suspect timing. The timing made no difference. It was demonstrated throughout the campaign that Trump is a liar, a crook, and a serial adulterer, but that didn't matter to the bigots. They had their grievances in response to eight years of the first black president, and he was clever enough to hit all the right cords. Add to that Hillary, a good politician but a rather bland campaigner and personality, plus, though a total nothing burger, an effective October surprise using James Comey and Trump squeezed in.


During the 2020 election, the press overtly rallied around Joe Biden, discrediting the New York Post's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. Waa waa waa you didn't get your October surprise the second time. You were forced to earn this one the old fashioned way and failed. And Hunter wasn't running for president and wasn't even a public servant.


Two impeachments led to nothing. There's never been a successful impeachment in the history of my country. That's because the standard is very high, requiring a 2/3rd Super Majority and partisian politicians are on the jury. But it led to something. We have clear evidence that Trump withheld taxpayer funds promised to Ukraine as leverage to try to secure a favor, to collect dirt and slander his most feared political opponent. He is a crook, and his self-serving GOP buttboys refused to call him out. January 6th, 2021 will live in infamy with most Americans, as will the traitors who fueled and perpetrated it. We look forward to the day that the GOP reclaims their party and the conspiracy theory chasing, unAmerican kooks are forced back out of the mainstream. It would also be nice to get more of them in jail along the way, but as usual, Axel Hole has nothing but biased, simplified fluff that's so easy to overturn. He wants to be an intellectual but hasn't put in the work, the time in study to become effective.

PVMonger
03-22-22, 00:37
I am glad everyone knows it. https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7456/Who-will-win-the-2024-US-presidential-election.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7172/What-will-be-the-balance-of-power-in-Congress-after-the-2022-election

If you put your money where you mouth is, you should make a killing.

But let us be honest. The surest bet of all is that you will not make one.As usual, you didn't bother to the one question I asked in my post.

You accused me of calling all Republican voters stupid when I said "The people who voted for the Orange Fruitcake were, by and large, older, white and high-school educated and lived in states that take more from the Federal Government than they provide. The voted for Cheeto Tweeto against their own best interests. They voted for less healthcare, higher taxes etc. All so they could retain power."

Please highlight the word stupid in the above quote. Go on, do it and show everybody how ignorant you really are.

EihTooms
03-22-22, 01:55
Years from now, scholars and historians will ask why the people lost faith in the press. The Fourth Estate has long been an essential part of America's development, never perfect but essential.

Then Donald Trump ran for office in 2016:

Trump secured the Republican nomination. Suddenly reports and unflattering videos were released. But his supporters overlooked them because they disliked being manipulated by the press and their suspect timing.

Trump won the presidency. The Russia Collusion narrative took off. Two impeachments led to nothing.

During the 2020 election, the press overtly rallied around Joe Biden, discrediting the New York Post's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. A story that raised important questions regarding Joe Biden and his son and could have changed the outcome of the election. Then over a year into Biden's presidency, that story which was hammered by the press, was now confirmed as accurate by the liberal New York Times.

When you write it out, it seems obvious. We do not have an honest press anymore.Would that be the same New York Times that, along with virtually every other typically pro Repub electioneering Mainstream Media, refused to call out Trump's penchant for blatantly lying about everything big and small throughout most of his 2016 campaign until well after most voters historically had already made up their minds?

"The weekend America's newspapers called Donald Trump a liar"https://money.cnn.com/2016/09/25/media/newspapers-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-lies/.

My god, to think how much better off America and the rest of the world would have been all through 2017,2018, 2019, 2020 and even today if only the NYT and other MSM had dropped their Dem / Clinton-bashing obsession with that "But her emails"! BS and had instead been identifying Trump as the traitorous, lying con man he is from the moment he descended that escalator and began to con weak-minded hillbillies into voting against their own interests and America at all levels.

ScatManDoo
03-22-22, 02:48
Sorry there isn't anyone on this forum dumb enough to look at fake news for fake information. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe any of this liberal fake news links. You are going to have to keep this to yourself.I looked at it.

It was simple enough to use.

And it gave the actual, exact job growth for each president to compare.

If Canada thinks that the site gave false information. Then Canada is wrong.

I like looking at and comparing the four years under single-term Carter to the four years against single-term Trump.

Both terms started out right, but even from the beginning, Carters growth was faster and stronger.

And Carter's job numbers did not take a nosedive and turn to TrumpShit.

And none of the criminal shit either.

ScatManDoo
03-22-22, 03:14
That is the future but that is not the current situation now and we will not see it in our lifetime. It will take 30 years to get to 50% electric vehicles. We have to do something now to make it affordable for everyone. Low income people can't even afford a new car let alone an electric car that costs 40% more.Big metal boxes on wheels is not the way to go, not the future.

This is not a 1910 individual travel issue with the need to coax ladies out of their horse drawn carriages into motorized boxes.

What stops electric bikes, which can be 5% to 10% the cost of a new car, from replacing cars with e-bikes?

Why not have an e-bike replace around half the trips you make in your car, so your car lasts twice as long and burns up only half the gasoline costs each year?

Why not have an e-vehicle you can carry on a bus or train, to then ride that last mile to a doorstep destination? Or ride it to 15 doorsteps in one afternoon around town?

Elvis 2008
03-22-22, 05:43
I notice no winger posted an excerpt of recently discovered winger favorite Bill Maher's show this time around after the question he thought was worth asking, "Why didn't Putin invade Ukraine when his boyfriend Trump was in office"? Got well and surely answered for the umpteenth time by intelligent, well-informed people;.

Because Putin didn't need to.Oh really?


MR. BROOKS: No, he didnt invade because he didnt need to, because you only roll out the tanks when you think youre out of options. And Putin had a grand asymmetric strategy to dismantle NATO from within. And it was working. When the commander in chief of the United States Armed Forces calls NATO obsolete, you are on the road to a fifth column victory, and thats what he was doing. And its a matter of fact we know now in 2018 Trump wanted to pull out of NATO, and it was John Kelly and John Bolton who had to hold him down like a rabid dog to stop him from doing that. And if Trump had won a second term, he would have done it. But Biden being elected caused Putins plan to go up in smoke.So let's start with the easy one. Did Putin invade because of Biden? Yes. That is a helluva an admission. Your guy says Biden gave him no options. That is not good.

So Biden invaded Ukraine to weaken NATO? That is funny because Germany just bought a bunch of F-35's and is beefing up their military. You will have to explain to me how this is good for Russia.

And here is Trump being 100% correct about Germany at the 1:00 minute mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JpwkeTBwgs.

CBS tries to make him out like a fool but Trump was totally correct. Why should I be paying for Germany's defense when Germans are throwing money at Russia? The Germans should be buying LNG from us not getting gas from Russia.

The funny part is how many Dems are so pro-war now they do not even stop to make any sense. We are paying to protect Europe from an invading Russia that could not even capture Ukraine and that got their asses kicked in Afghanistan. Why do we need to spend our money protecting Europe from Russia? The Russians have already lost more troops in Ukraine than we did in 20 years of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You Dems keep making Putin into this uber villain when time and again he is proven to be a joke. I hope Trump does get rid of NATO. What purpose does it serve?

MarquisdeSade1
03-22-22, 06:36
Years from now, scholars and historians will ask why the people lost faith in the press. The Fourth Estate has long been an essential part of America's development, never perfect but essential.

Then Donald Trump ran for office in 2016:

Trump secured the Republican nomination. Suddenly reports and unflattering videos were released. But his supporters overlooked them because they disliked being manipulated by the press and their suspect timing.

Trump won the presidency. The Russia Collusion narrative took off. Two impeachments led to nothing.

During the 2020 election, the press overtly rallied around Joe Biden, discrediting the New York Post's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. A story that raised important questions regarding Joe Biden and his son and could have changed the outcome of the election. Then over a year into Biden's presidency, that story which was hammered by the press, was now confirmed as accurate by the liberal New York Times.

When you write it out, it seems obvious. We do not have an honest press anymore.https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/291436-defending-the-indefensible-journalistic-bias-at-the-new-york-times

Nyt aka the maddow show.

EihTooms
03-22-22, 06:41
Sorry there isn't anyone on this forum dumb enough to look at fake news for fake information. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe any of this liberal fake news links. You are going to have to keep this to yourself.Obviously, you looked, you know it's true and it really burns you that everyone else can easily know it too. LOL.

PVMonger
03-22-22, 16:11
Sorry there isn't anyone on this forum dumb enough to look at fake news for fake information. You would have to be a complete idiot to believe any of this liberal fake news links. You are going to have to keep this to yourself.Since all you ever do is yell "fake newZ", please tell us what media you consider "real news."

Please be specific. Don't just say some rubbish like "all liberal media are fake news". Own up to it and list names of media that you consider to be "real news". That way, we'll all know.

EihTooms
03-22-22, 17:06
Oh really?

So let's start with the easy one. Did Putin invade because of Biden? Yes. That is a helluva an admission. Your guy says Biden gave him no options. That is not good.

So Biden invaded Ukraine to weaken NATO? That is funny because Germany just bought a bunch of F-35's and is beefing up their military. You will have to explain to me how this is good for Russia.

And here is Trump being 100% correct about Germany at the 1:00 minute mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JpwkeTBwgs.

CBS tries to make him out like a fool but Trump was totally correct. Why should I be paying for Germany's defense when Germans are throwing money at Russia? The Germans should be buying LNG from us not getting gas from Russia.

The funny part is how many Dems are so pro-war now they do not even stop to make any sense. We are paying to protect Europe from an invading Russia that could not even capture Ukraine and that got their asses kicked in Afghanistan. Why do we need to spend our money protecting Europe from Russia? The Russians have already lost more troops in Ukraine than we did in 20 years of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You Dems keep making Putin into this uber villain when time and again he is proven to be a joke. I hope Trump does get rid of NATO. What purpose does it serve?Yep, you're right that without Trump on hand to help Putin weaken NATO and the Western Alliance in order to overthrow democracies in Ukraine and around the world without mussing himself and as Trump and his fellow Repubs tried to do with American democracy on January 6, 2021 and every day since, Biden offered Putin no option even remotely similar to the one Trump graciously and enthusiastically provided his boyfriend.

But I have no idea what lunacy you're blathering about starting at "So Biden invaded Ukraine to weaken NATO" and everything that followed.

Do you?

Now, if you meant to write "Putin" invaded Ukraine in order to weaken NATO, well, that doesn't make any sense either. See, the idea and plan hatched between Putin and Trump was to weaken NATO first and then just pick off one democracy after another around the world and replace them with authoritarian dictatorships, no muss, no fuss, a cake walk.

And Trump did his part of that plan in the USA culminating on January 6, 2021 with state level Repubs continuing the effort by rigging ballot and voting laws to make it almost impossible for anyone but America-hating Repubs to "win" every election.

The Putin / Trump plan was fucked up by the free and fair election of Joe Biden.

Yeah, we know that the Putin / Trump plan to weaken NATO and then pick off democracies around the world back-fired on those two dudes badly and that NATO and the Western Alliance of democracies are stronger than ever before. See, that's why Putin is no longer thought to be smart but now looks like the dumb loser he is.

Say it with me; Thanks, Joe.

Of course, everyone knows Trump was always dumb, a fucking moron and for his boyfriend Putin, a useful idiot and one of the biggest losers of all time. But we might as well thank Joe for making that more abundantly clear than ever too.

Paulie97
03-22-22, 18:02
Since all you ever do is yell "fake newZ", please tell us what media you consider "real news."

Please be specific. Don't just say some rubbish like "all liberal media are fake news". Own up to it and list names of media that you consider to be "real news". That way, we'll all know.I second this request.

Paulie97
03-22-22, 18:08
As usual, you didn't bother to the one question I asked in my post.

You accused me of calling all Republican voters stupid when I said "The people who voted for the Orange Fruitcake were, by and large, older, white and high-school educated and lived in states that take more from the Federal Government than they provide. The voted for Cheeto Tweeto against their own best interests. They voted for less healthcare, higher taxes etc. All so they could retain power."

Please highlight the word stupid in the above quote. Go on, do it and show everybody how ignorant you really are.That's just standard procedure, erect a strawman and knock it down, put words in your mouth and attack them, etc. He's never been interested in an honest discussion or debate, and is very consistent in that regard.

ScatManDoo
03-22-22, 18:58
We let in close to one million people a year through our legal processes into the United States.

Things would be much better if we let in 3 million people in year 2023.

Say an extra 1 million people from Ukraine and an extra one million people from everywhere else.

There is close to one million people in the process already, we just need to initially steamline it to be much faster than it is now.

Similar to streamlining the vaccination process so it takes months instead of years.

Currently there are many many more job openings than there are serious, unemployed job seekers.

Did TrumpShit lose 9 million jobs, of which only 6 1/2 million jobs have come back in Biden's first year?

Where do we get the warm bodies to fill another 3 to 5 million more jobs that get created in Biden's second year?

The graves of a million TrumpCovid victims are not going to get you the warm bodies that the United States needs.

The 150,000 Haitian immigrants at the Tijuana border could join the over one million people already in process.

In 2019 there were 843,593 naturalizations granted in the United States.

In 2019 there were 707,362 green cards granted.

In 2019 there were 46,508 asylum requests granted.

We don't know the exact number of people who get into he Unite States illegally, but in 2019 there were 531,330 unauthorized immigrants removed or returned.

More than one million additional United States residents died in the United States in 2019 when prior year mortality rates are compared. That's the real death toll resulting from Covid.

Probably less than one million people survived Covid, only to be left with long Covid and are disabled as a result, but their numbers ae in the six figures.

And more one million additional baby boomers, in the post-Covid environment, chose surprisingly to take early retirement and early social security benefits.

I am one of those earlier-than-they-expected-to retirees.

MarquisdeSade1
03-22-22, 19:02
Obviously, you looked, you know it's true and it really burns you that everyone else can easily know it too. LOL.The truth? You wouldn't tell the truth if you were being beaten with a baseball bat LOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo&t=19s

All you bootlickers for Biden are all the same, lie, lie then lie some more, the truth is your sworn enemy.

Post-script your lame attempts at sophistry are quite unimpressive, try the truth it will set you free.

MarquisdeSade1
03-22-22, 19:11
Since all you ever do is yell "fake newZ", please tell us what media you consider "real news."

Please be specific. Don't just say some rubbish like "all liberal media are fake news". Own up to it and list names of media that you consider to be "real news". That way, we'll all know.Her really low IQ LOL.

https://sputniknews.com/20220322/kamala-harris-significance-of-passage-of-time-speech-sparks-call-for-her-to-be-hidden-from-public-1094086239.html

You should be judged by your VP choice LOL.

Barry Hussein picked braindead Biden and Braindead Biden picked this mental midget.

But hey she ate Willie Browns shithole LMAO.

The dem voters are priceless.

Please don't die Joe, at least not until Feb 2025.

Cali Guy
03-22-22, 22:17
Years from now, scholars and historians will ask why the people lost faith in the press. The Fourth Estate has long been an essential part of America's development, never perfect but essential.

Then Donald Trump ran for office in 2016:

Trump secured the Republican nomination. Suddenly reports and unflattering videos were released. But his supporters overlooked them because they disliked being manipulated by the press and their suspect timing.

Trump won the presidency. The Russia Collusion narrative took off. Two impeachments led to nothing.

During the 2020 election, the press overtly rallied around Joe Biden, discrediting the New York Post's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop. A story that raised important questions regarding Joe Biden and his son and could have changed the outcome of the election. Then over a year into Biden's presidency, that story which was hammered by the press, was now confirmed as accurate by the liberal New York Times.

When you write it out, it seems obvious. We do not have an honest press anymore.CNN and MSNBC with Trump and fake Russia collusion completely made every intelligent person in the world lose faith in the press. Washington Post and NY Times contributed their fake news and opinions also. They pushed their opinions and lies 8-10 hours daily with no facts and then 2 years later when they were proven to be liars and proven 90% of their news was fake did not even apologize. Only a complete fool would disagree with this. And I am sure we will hear from some of those fools. Just wonder which one will admit it first.

MarquisdeSade1
03-22-22, 22:18
Since all you ever do is yell "fake newZ", please tell us what media you consider "real news."

Please be specific. Don't just say some rubbish like "all liberal media are fake news". Own up to it and list names of media that you consider to be "real news". That way, we'll all know.https://www.westernjournal.com/deep-state-officials-told-us-hunter-bidens-laptop-russian-disinformation/

If it comes from the left or the MSM its fake. Full of dishonesty, omissions etc.

All deep state propaganda.

If they say anything that is true, its just an accident.

Cali Guy
03-22-22, 22:19
Obviously, you looked, you know it's true and it really burns you that everyone else can easily know it too. LOL.There were no smart people that looked at your link. Intelligent people don't waste their time on fake liberal links so you only get views from the fools.

Cali Guy
03-22-22, 22:26
How do you know Biden is incompetent? You just need to look at this forum. The intelligent people know and expose the disastrous mistakes he has made on everything from foreign policy to destroying domestic energy to high inflation and record gas prices. The unintelligent try to change the subject and lie about Trump but they don't realize mentioning Trump just makes everyone remember the good days without war and inflation. Trump looks like the best president ever now after Biden wreck.

MarquisdeSade1
03-23-22, 01:59
Since all you ever do is yell "fake newZ", please tell us what media you consider "real news."

Please be specific. Don't just say some rubbish like "all liberal media are fake news". Own up to it and list names of media that you consider to be "real news". That way, we'll all know.https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ron-johnson-hunter-biden-burisma/2022/03/22/id/1062442/

Amen!

EihTooms
03-23-22, 03:34
How do you know Biden is incompetent? You just need to look at this forum. The intelligent people know and expose the disastrous mistakes he has made on everything from foreign policy to destroying domestic energy to high inflation and record gas prices. The unintelligent try to change the subject and lie about Trump but they don't realize mentioning Trump just makes everyone remember the good days without war and inflation. Trump looks like the best president ever now after Biden wreck.Trump's economic decisions, at best, created a million fewer jobs with a godawful economic "stimulus" legislation, his only one, that cost $2.5+ Trillion than were created without it.

At worst, Trump's economic decisions left the world bare ass naked against Preventing and immediately Responding to a likely regional virus endemic in China along with his cowardice and lies being the primary contribution to converting it into the Trump's Pandemic it became that produced the hundreds of thousands of American deaths, the economic devastation, the millions upon millions of job losses, the worldwide supply chain destruction, the crippling of international travel for years and the inevitable inflation during the recovery that followed.

Oh, and America was actively and on the ground at war in a foreign country for every year, every month, every week, every day, every hour, every minute and every second of the Trump so-called presidency from Noon on January 20,2017 until Noon on January 20, 2021. Even after his total and unconditional surrender to the Taliban 100% on their timeline and terms scheduled for months after he lost in a landslide against Joe Biden and would be out of office.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden's record of recovery from just the latest in a long list of Great Repub Economic Crashes, Recessions and Massive USA Job Losses under Trump in terms of jobs creation, businesses reopening and thriving, stock market gains and, this time around, millions of American lives saved, is happening at record speed and success.

Oh, and for the first time since a previous Dem was in office, the USA is not actively engaged in any war anywhere on the planet.

ScatManDoo
03-23-22, 04:20
Meanwhile, Joe Biden's record of recovery from just the latest in a long list of Great Repub Economic Crashes, Recessions and Massive USA Job Losses under Trump in terms of jobs creation, businesses reopening and thriving, stock market gains and, this time around, millions of American lives saved, is happening at record speed and success.

Oh, and for the first time since a previous Dem was in office, the USA is not actively engaged in any war anywhere on the planet.I guess the two most recent presidents to serve days in office, at the White House, while not engaged in war are Joe Biden and Bill Clinton.

Correct?

Cali Guy
03-23-22, 04:40
Trump's economic decisions, at best, created a million fewer jobs with a godawful economic "stimulus" legislation, his only one, that cost $2.5+ Trillion than were created without it.

At worst, Trump's economic decisions left the world bare ass naked against Preventing and immediately Responding to a likely regional virus endemic in China along with his cowardice and lies being the primary contribution to converting it into the Trump's Pandemic it became that produced the hundreds of thousands of American deaths, the economic devastation, the millions upon millions of job losses, the worldwide supply chain destruction, the crippling of international travel for years and the inevitable inflation during the recovery that followed.

Oh, and America was actively and on the ground at war in a foreign country for every year, every month, every week, every day, every hour, every minute and every second of the Trump so-called presidency from Noon on January 20,2017 until Noon on January 20, 2021. Even after his total and unconditional surrender to the Taliban 100% on their timeline and terms scheduled for months after he lost in a landslide against Joe Biden and would be out of office..Talking about Trump doesn't change the fact Biden is totally incompetent. Inflation is still here and gas is still $6 or higher in San Diego. Doesn't matter how many times you mention Trump name or lie about Biden fantasy successes it does not change the facts. We are living the facts of Biden failures. More families in financial trouble in America. Biden rich friends are doing ok in the stock market with it only down 6% this year but the low income families are getting destroyed.

Elvis 2008
03-23-22, 04:40
Yeah, we know that the Putin / Trump plan to weaken NATO and then pick off democracies around the world.Ukraine is a democracy? LOL.

And how are Putin and Trump going to pick them off with a BB gun?


And NATO and the Western Alliance of democracies are stronger than ever before. See, that's why Putin is no longer thought to be smart but now looks like the dumb loser he is.He was never a threat for Western Democracies or NATO. You dung for brain Democrats and the oatmeal for brain neocons made him into one.


Say it with me; Thanks, Joe.For what? For pushing Putin into a war where thousands die and millions are displaced? I thought your thanking Biden for this economy should question your need to be medicated but this? This is loony bin material.

Cali Guy
03-23-22, 04:44
We let in close to one million people a year through our legal processes into the United States.

Things would be much better if we let in 3 million people in year 2023.

Say an extra 1 million people from Ukraine and an extra one million people from everywhere else.

There is close to one million people in the process already, we just need to initially steamline it to be much faster than it is now.

Similar to streamlining the vaccination process so it takes months instead of years.

Currently there are many many more job openings than there are serious, unemployed job seekers.

Did TrumpShit lose 9 million jobs, of which only 6 1/2 million jobs have come back in Biden's first year?

Where do we get the warm bodies to fill another 3 to 5 million more jobs that get created in Biden's second year?

The graves of a million TrumpCovid victims are not going to get you the warm bodies that the United States needs..Yes let in more unskilled labor. Let more criminals and terrorists in. This may be the dumbest idea in the history of the USA. Can socialists get any dumber? Do you really think democrats can actually get all these illegals to vote democrat?

Cali Guy
03-23-22, 04:48
Yep, you're right that without Trump on hand to help Putin weaken NATO and the Western Alliance in order to overthrow democracies in Ukraine and around the world without mussing himself and as Trump and his fellow Repubs tried to do with American democracy on January 6, 2021 and every day since, Biden offered Putin no option even remotely similar to the one Trump graciously and enthusiastically provided his boyfriend.

But I have no idea what lunacy you're blathering about starting at "So Biden invaded Ukraine to weaken NATO" and everything that followed.

Do you?

Now, if you meant to write "Putin" invaded Ukraine in order to weaken NATO, well, that doesn't make any sense either. See, the idea and plan hatched between Putin and Trump was to weaken NATO first and then just pick off one democracy after another around the world and replace them with authoritarian dictatorships, no muss, no fuss, a cake walk..The only thing clear about the Putin puppet Biden is that Biden is blowing Putin consistently. Biden was just kissing Putin ass last year but Putin expects Biden to blow him regularly now.

EihTooms
03-23-22, 05:35
Sure enough, Biden's Job Ratings with Gallup have been steadily improving on major issues since the beginning of the year when Trump started back on the MAGA sucker fleecing campaign trail, repeating his usual America-hating blather to his devoted cult followers except for one issue: the economy and energy.

Obviously, the typically pro Repub electioneering Mainstream Media has managed to once again bamboozle people into the astonishingly obvious con that "Repubs handle the economy better than Dems" whenever they see the price of a gallon of gas plummet in the midst of still another, another and another Great Repub Crash, Recession and Massive USA Job Destruction. LOL.

https://www.pollingreport.com/biden_adm.htm

As soon as the price of gas declines or Americans begin to realize that, adjusted for inflation, the current average cost of it is no higher than it has been umpteen times since the 1930's including during many presidencies where the president won a second term, Repubs' will see their prayers and dreams of another catastrophically horrific Trump so-called presidency with more record worst results across the board sadly dwindle.

EihTooms
03-23-22, 05:58
https://www.westernjournal.com/deep-state-officials-told-us-hunter-bidens-laptop-russian-disinformation/

If it comes from the left or the MSM its fake. Full of dishonesty, omissions etc.

All deep state propaganda.

If they say anything that is true, its just an accident.Is his laptop where we will finally get the full and complete video of him getting a "footjob" from an Asian hooker instead of just an all too brief clip of it?

Oh goodie. I can't wait to see it.

You Repubs have, shall we say, unorthodox obsessions; Footjobs, cannabalism, wide stances in the men's Room, trannies, etc. Now, in the Judge Jackson interviews, Repub Senators appear to be inordinately obsessed with talking about sex with children.

If only Repubs focused on producing just "as good" economic and national security results as Dems as much as they do on those other things, who knows, we might get through a Repub so-called presidency without the need for the next incoming Dem to put Herculean effort and amazing smarts into recovering us from the horrific mess the Repub left behind.

Or, as Mainstream Media would characterize it; "Repubs handling the economy better than Dems" lolol.

Elvis 2008
03-23-22, 06:18
That's just standard procedure, erect a strawman and knock it down, put words in your mouth and attack them, etc. He's never been interested in an honest discussion or debate, and is very consistent in that regard.What has been consistent is your using logic in your perverted and arrogant blowhard ways. In fact you are so arrogant that Orange Fruitcake and Cheeto Twitto are not illogical ad hominem attacks but rather accurate descriptions. What is also clear is your tribal needs are such that you will agree with someone insulting me no matter how stupid they are. And PVM's post asking what is offensive about basically saying those who voted for Trump are senile, poorly educated, racist, and unappreciative is about as dumb as it gets.

According to PVM and I guess you, we Trump voters should have voted in our interests which include: bone headed energy policies, moronic climate change policies, soaring inflation, destruction of our freedoms at the hands of unelected health care dictators who had no fucking clue what they were doing, and being on the eve of WW3.

Maybe we should give you our ballots and let you vote for us. Or then again, maybe we should do it for you. I mean, look at who you guys nominated and elected.

PVMonger
03-23-22, 16:36
The only thing clear about the Putin puppet Biden is that Biden is blowing Putin consistently. Biden was just kissing Putin ass last year but Putin expects Biden to blow him regularly now.Blowing Putin regularly? You mean like the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy did?

PVMonger
03-23-22, 16:40
Yes let in more unskilled labor. Let more criminals and terrorists in. This may be the dumbest idea in the history of the USA. Can socialists get any dumber? Do you really think democrats can actually get all these illegals to vote democrat?Please highlight the word "illegal" in ScanManDoo's original post. I have read it multiple times and I can't find it. I found the word legal but I didn't find the word "illegal".

Maybe you can point it out so that we can all be as intelligent as you.

ScatManDoo
03-23-22, 17:10
Yes let in more unskilled labor. Let more criminals and terrorists in. This may be the dumbest idea in the history of the USA. Can socialists get any dumber? Do you really think democrats can actually get all these illegals to vote democrat?Just in southern California alone there must be 100,000 unanswered HELP WANTED signs in fast food restaurants windows.

Cali Guy
03-23-22, 18:05
Please highlight the word "illegal" in ScanManDoo's original post. I have read it multiple times and I can't find it. I found the word legal but I didn't find the word "illegal".

Maybe you can point it out so that we can all be as intelligent as you.ScatManDo said 1 million people came into USA last year under Biden open border policy. All of these 1 million came in illegally and he is saying 2 million more should come. And yes the 1 million that came are either unskilled labor or criminals. Does that make it simple enough for you to understand?

Cali Guy
03-23-22, 18:06
Just in southern California alone there must be 100,000 unanswered HELP WANTED signs in fast food restaurants windows.Yes because California is a democrat state and democrats are to lazy to go to work.

PVMonger
03-23-22, 18:16
What has been consistent is your using logic in your perverted and arrogant blowhard ways. In fact you are so arrogant that Orange Fruitcake and Cheeto Twitto are not illogical ad hominem attacks but rather accurate descriptions. What is also clear is your tribal needs are such that you will agree with someone insulting me no matter how stupid they are. And PVM's post asking what is offensive about basically saying those who voted for Trump are senile, poorly educated, racist, and unappreciative is about as dumb as it gets.

According to PVM and I guess you, we Trump voters should have voted in our interests which include: bone headed energy policies, moronic climate change policies, soaring inflation, destruction of our freedoms at the hands of unelected health care dictators who had no fucking clue what they were doing, and being on the eve of WW3.

Maybe we should give you our ballots and let you vote for us. Or then again, maybe we should do it for you. I mean, look at who you guys nominated and elected.You said that I called supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy stupid. I did not. When I asked you to highlight the word stupid in the paragraph you criticized, you did not. Now you are changing your tune.

And I never said that Cheeto Tweeto supporters were senile. You call Biden that all of the time. I called them "High school educated", not poorly educated, although your boy Donnie did. I did not call them racist, although I am certain that Biden received a very much smaller percentage of white-supremacist votes than did the Orange Buffoon.

Your rants are getting quite predictable.

ScatManDoo
03-23-22, 21:49
Tomorrow morning he is going to announce a one-time offer to the entire world.

Send the USA Department of the Treasury $8,000 and get yourself on the fast-track to immigration into the United States.

A 55 day approval process, and you are in. Limited to the first 2. 5 million that apply.

It is expected that around 20% of applicants will be denied in the first month of the process, and get their $8,000 fee refunded.

Do you think 2 million highly skilled and lightly skilled people might be interested? I think the world's best and brightest will be.

The best part of the dream was Joe Biden promised me 1% of the 16 billion that would be raised. Yeah.

MarquisdeSade1
03-23-22, 21:51
Is his laptop where we will finally get the full and complete video of him getting a "footjob" from an Asian hooker instead of just an all too brief clip of it?

Oh goodie. I can't wait to see it.

You Repubs have, shall we say, unorthodox obsessions; Footjobs, cannabalism, wide stances in the men's Room, trannies, etc. Now, in the Judge Jackson interviews, Repub Senators appear to be inordinately obsessed with talking about sex with children.

If only Repubs focused on producing just "as good" economic and national security results as Dems as much as they do on those other things, who knows, we might get through a Repub so-called presidency without the need for the next incoming Dem to put Herculean effort and amazing smarts into recovering us from the horrific mess the Repub left behind.

Or, as Mainstream Media would characterize it; "Repubs handling the economy better than Dems" lolol.Can you not wait to see that too?

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2020/08/28/the-godfather-wars/

Thanks Joe and Barry Hussein and 43 the Turd and most of all Bubba.

God is Great Trump / Carlson 2024.

Z!!

ScatManDoo
03-23-22, 21:53
Blowing Putin regularly? You mean like the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy did?That's what I thought of when CaliGuy made the comment.

MarquisdeSade1
03-23-22, 23:09
Is his laptop where we will finally get the full and complete video of him getting a "footjob" from an Asian hooker instead of just an all too brief clip of it?

Oh goodie. I can't wait to see it.

You Repubs have, shall we say, unorthodox obsessions; Footjobs, cannabalism, wide stances in the men's Room, trannies, etc. Now, in the Judge Jackson interviews, Repub Senators appear to be inordinately obsessed with talking about sex with children.

If only Repubs focused on producing just "as good" economic and national security results as Dems as much as they do on those other things, who knows, we might get through a Repub so-called presidency without the need for the next incoming Dem to put Herculean effort and amazing smarts into recovering us from the horrific mess the Repub left behind.

Or, as Mainstream Media would characterize it; "Repubs handling the economy better than Dems" lolol.WTF getting lots of Iranians killed for 1 lousy point.

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/favorability-ratings-inflation-gas-prices/2022/03/22/id/1062444/

Elvis 2008
03-23-22, 23:44
Talking about Trump doesn't change the fact Biden is totally incompetent. Inflation is still here and gas is still $6 or higher in San Diego. Doesn't matter how many times you mention Trump name or lie about Biden fantasy successes it does not change the facts. We are living the facts of Biden failures. More families in financial trouble in America. Biden rich friends are doing ok in the stock market with it only down 6% this year but the low income families are getting destroyed.Nice post, Cali! Yeah, the Dems here cannot quit Trump. They piled the pandemic onto him, and Biden did worse with it than Trump did. The latest Covid stupidity from the Dems is in NYC. Basketball player Kyrie Irving can go to the Brooklyn arena and watch the game even though he is not vaccinated but play? No, he cannot. Players from a visiting team can play without being vaccinated and unvaccinated fans can watch the games but Irving cannot play. The Democratic mayor is (and I am not making this up) "following the science". We now know that when Dems "follow the science" they pay off "scientists" to give the opinions they want. The worst was the fucker Fauci literally saying "If you are opposing me, you are opposing science."

Even now with all the studies showing the enormous harm lockdowns did, the Dems here are still in favor of them. Why? "Following the science" Climate change? "Following the science."

The Democrats wanted to lock down everything, destroy the economy such that Trump would lose. Mission accomplished, but we are going to have the recession on the Dems watch now, and it is going to be 2009 all over again, and that is on them.

And this great war in Ukraine. The Dems are now bragging they got Putin to act whereas Trump appeased him. The prices of sunflower oils and seeds and wheat are going to skyrocket. And nickel is already through the roof.

So you got inflation with no end in sight, the Fed having to raise rates, Covid potentially coming back, interest rates inverted, sky high gasoline prices, and Eih bragging about how great everything is, and every piece of data I see is the economy going off a cliff.

The hard part with going short the market is timing but when you buy ETFs that short the market you do not have to be right on the time. SPXU is a triple short of the S&P 500. I am going to start buying that soon. And SQQQ is a triple short the negative on the NASDAQ. And SDOW is a triple short on the Dow.

Normally, these would be really risky but with this administration, it is money in the bank.

Axel Heyst
03-23-22, 23:57
As if we needed more examples of the lunacy of Woke, this little interchange gives us a clear picture of the utter madness of the Woke Marxist movement in America. I don't blame the Ketanji. She is only a pawn in their game.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6301590390001#sp=show-clips.

So how many of you left wing fascists who continually arguing on this forum can't tell me what a woman is? Or can't tell the difference between a natural born girl from a ladyboy? This ain't rocket science. This is left wing dogma and it is insane.

Elvis 2008
03-24-22, 00:25
You said that I called supporters of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy stupid. I did not. When I asked you to highlight the word stupid in the paragraph you criticized, you did not.Yes, you said the Trump voter did not vote in their own interests. You think not using the word stupid gets you off the hook? LOL.


I did not call them racistNo, it was implied in the paragraph but you have said all people who vote Republicans are racist in the past. Even now, you told me to stop it on race. Why?


You call Biden senile all of the time.Because he has early onset dementia. Anyone can see that. What are the first symptoms of it?


Your rants are getting quite predictable.What is predictable is you actually think you won the argument.

You are offensive to Republican voters. I have said numerous times I get why people vote Democrat but you do not get the opposite, and that is why you are a Democratic douche.

If you voted for Trump because you want secure borders, to a Democratic douche like you, that translates to a person being a racist even if the person voting is Hispanic.

If you voted for Trump because you are for strong domestic energy production, to a douche like you that means you are a climate change denier who wants to destroy the planet even if you work in the oil and gas industry.

You are such a clueless that you did not list any reason why someone would vote for Trump. Not one. All you had were these stupid stereotypes about who they were. What does that say about you?

MarquisdeSade1
03-24-22, 01:13
As if we needed more examples of the lunacy of Woke, this little interchange gives us a clear picture of the utter madness of the Woke Marxist movement in America. I don't blame the Ketanji. She is only a pawn in their game.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6301590390001#sp=show-clips.

So how many of you left wing fascists who continually arguing on this forum can't tell me what a woman is? Or can't tell the difference between a natural born girl from a ladyboy? This ain't rocket science. This is left wing dogma and it is insane.Its not dogmatic, its just a result of really low IQs, ala Jackson the mental midget won't show us her LSAT score but wants to sit on the highest court in the land.

Really? Is it damn low? LOL kinda like Barry Husseins college grades intellectually challenged the whole lot of them (and anyone that voted for him).

If you don't know the difference between a boy and a girl you're just brain dead just like these Biden bootlickers in this thread.

Its quite obvious the Democratic Party circa 2022 is using the script of Idiocracy as their platform!

MarquisdeSade1
03-24-22, 01:36
Tomorrow morning he is going to announce a one-time offer to the entire world.

Send the USA Department of the Treasury $8,000 and get yourself on the fast-track to immigration into the United States.

A 55 day approval process, and you are in. Limited to the first 2. 5 million that apply.

It is expected that around 20% of applicants will be denied in the first month of the process, and get their $8,000 fee refunded.

Do you think 2 million highly skilled and lightly skilled people might be interested? I think the world's best and brightest will be.

The best part of the dream was Joe Biden promised me 1% of the 16 billion that would be raised. Yeah.Please list how many from each country you want them from.

EihTooms
03-24-22, 01:58
I guess the two most recent presidents to serve days in office, at the White House, while not engaged in war are Joe Biden and Bill Clinton.

Correct?And before them, the best period of Peace and Prosperity for America was Jimmy Carter's presidency.

Anyone who claims to vote for "no war" for America and great USA economic results, USA jobs creation, no Great Recession or horrific Bear Market Crash but slams any Dem but in particular Carter, Clinton or Biden is a blithering idiot, a hypocrite and a danger to America.

EihTooms
03-24-22, 02:24
In addition to Trump blowing Putin and swallowing his load with a smile on the world stage at every opportunity, his blatantly committing Sedition against America, attempting to overthrow American democracy and shitting all over the American Constitution with glee while also managing to mass murder nearly a million Americans and wiping out millions upon millions of USA jobs sure beats the hell out of Putin revealing himself to be the second worst, most incompetent and dumbest head of state in history after Trump, his military machine to be creaking, jammed and falling apart at every level, decimating his country's economy, currency and standing in the world for years to come.

Brooks says Trump asked him to rescind election, remove Biden, call new election

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/23/mo-brooks-says-trump-asked-him-to-rescind-election-remove-biden.html?__source=androidappshare

Trump worked so hard to do his part in helping Putin destroy democracies around the world, especially in America, and replace them with authoritarian dictatorships. But Biden's landslide election victory over Trump screwed up their plans to weaken NATO and the Western Alliance of democracies in order to do that the easy way.

Now Trump's fellow America-hating Repubs will carry on their mission at the state and local level in a big hurry before the 2022 midterms.

EihTooms
03-24-22, 02:40
Because he has early onset dementia. Anyone can see that. What are the first symptoms of it?Would it be repeating the words "oranges oranges" when you apparently mean to say "origins", "anominus anominus" when you apparently mean to say "anonymous", "Yo, Semite" when you apparently mean to refer to the world renowned American Yosemite National Park?

Could be.

Some would say an American so-called president actively committing Sedition and inciting a violent Insurrection to overthrow American democracy is a symptom of later stage dementia.

And not only for the so-called president himself but even more so for the supposedly American voters who support and defend him, prefer his "leadership" over, well, pretty much anyone else.

EihTooms
03-24-22, 03:15
As if we needed more examples of the lunacy of Woke, this little interchange gives us a clear picture of the utter madness of the Woke Marxist movement in America. I don't blame the Ketanji. She is only a pawn in their game.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6301590390001#sp=show-clips.

So how many of you left wing fascists who continually arguing on this forum can't tell me what a woman is? Or can't tell the difference between a natural born girl from a ladyboy? This ain't rocket science. This is left wing dogma and it is insane.When she starts weeping like an infant over how much she has loved beer ever since she was sexually assaulting people as a teenager then I'll start worrying about the mental condition of the faction that supports and defends her appointment to the SCOTUS.

When was the last time a nominee was asked such as silly ass irrelevant question? Was she supposed to say, "A wonan has a pussy"? Then what on Earth would that have to do with transgender rights, discrimination or anything else the SCOTUS might some day rule on?

Waiting for the next Repub to accuse her of causing higher gas prices.

On the positive side, it has been suggested this appointee will rally greater support for Biden and other Dems from the critical, decisive black female demographic.

And on that count, could those idiotic Repubs asking her those ridiculous, condescending questions only to trip off on their Party's sucker social issues and lunatic QAnon conspiracy theory rants have possibly promoted and encouraged that result any more? LOL.

Brilliant chairing by Dem Durbin for letting the Repubs just blather on and on with that nonsense with very little interruption. LOL.

GDreams
03-24-22, 04:15
We let in close to one million people a year through our legal processes into the United States.

Things would be much better if we let in 3 million people in year 2023.Sorry but the wingers here just don't get it. They complain bitterly about the results of their own policies and blame it on others. There is a reason that their is a labour shortage that is causing supply issues and inflation and it is the squeeze that was put on labour markets by reducing immigration. Now there are no people to fill trucking jobs and all the other low skill jobs wages are going up and there are no people to fill vacancies, causing shortages and inflation. Its an easy fix but don't expect it to come from the right.

PVMonger
03-24-22, 05:45
Yes, you said the Trump voter did not vote in their own interests. You think not using the word stupid gets you off the hook? LOL.

No, it was implied in the paragraph but you have said all people who vote Republicans are racist in the past. Even now, you told me to stop it on race. Why?

Because he has early onset dementia. Anyone can see that. What are the first symptoms of it?

What is predictable is you actually think you won the argument.

You are offensive to Republican voters. I have said numerous times I get why people vote Democrat but you do not get the opposite, and that is why you are a Democratic douche.Geez! Now, not saying something is the same as saying something. This is the same logic that you idiots used when defending the Orange Buffoon. "he didn't say it", "Well, if he said it, he didn't mean it." "he may have meant it but he was talking about something else." "Fake News".

Commenting on your posts is like playing chess with a pigeon. You knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, and strut around like you've won.

I can think of plenty of reasons to vote for the Orange Fruitcake. If you were scared of Black people, brown people, yellow people or red people, you'd vote for the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy. If you were terrified of gays or lesbians you would have voted for Cheeto Tweeto. If you were horrified the transsexual people were allowed to live, you would have voted for the Mango Mussolini. If you thought that it was a good thing to die in order to 'own the libs', you voted for the Orange Fruitcake. If you thought that a bunch of uneducated Mexicans were invading the US in order to take your $300 per hour job, you voted for Hair Furor. If you wanted to go back to the 1850's, you would have voted for Cheeto Tweeto. If you thought that COVID was going to disappear with the warm weather, you'd have voted for the Mango Mussolini. If you wanted no healthcare, you would have voted for the Orange Fruitcake. If you thought that "My body, my choice" was Ok to say if you didn't want to wear a mask but horrible to say if you wanted an abortion, you voted for the Orange Menace. See, there are lots of reasons for voting for the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy. And I guarantee that every single one of the people who voted for Cheeto Tweeto identified with at least one of the above.

Am I offensive to Republican voters? Outstanding!

EihTooms
03-24-22, 06:30
The tip? Never leave a paper trail.

Trump was obviously the worst so-called potus of all time with the worst across the board results, one of the worst "businessmen" of all time losing historic record amounts of other people's money, those foolish enough to invest in his various cons, the worst "salesman" for America and democracy of all time in that nobody made both look worse and the dumbest fucking moron who was ever allowed to walk into the Oval Office in his total ignorance of history and contempt for the USA Constitution.

But as Head of the Trump Crime Family, he sure knew how best to dodge well deserved criminal indictment for the crimes he committed requiring tangible proof of "intent. "

Oh, it wasn't possible for him to erase the overwhelming and repeated evidence of his crimes. They happened.

But if he never allowed written notes, emails or recordings of his directives, he knew it would be very difficult to prove he "intended" to commit all those crimes. That way, other people, his lackies, would take the fall and do the time for him. Just like those suckers who lost serious money on his investment frauds cons and, of course, the American people.

"Donald Trump Guilty of 'Numerous Felonies,' Former New York Prosecutor Says" https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-guilty-numerous-felonies-former-new-york-prosecutor-says-1691245?amp=1.


The criminal probe has already resulted in felony tax evasion charges against the Trump Organization and its former chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg. There is also an active parallel civil investigation into the Trump Organization and the former president by New York Attorney General Letitia James.

MarquisdeSade1
03-24-22, 07:26
As if we needed more examples of the lunacy of Woke, this little interchange gives us a clear picture of the utter madness of the Woke Marxist movement in America. I don't blame the Ketanji. She is only a pawn in their game.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6301590390001#sp=show-clips.

So how many of you left wing fascists who continually arguing on this forum can't tell me what a woman is? Or can't tell the difference between a natural born girl from a ladyboy? This ain't rocket science. This is left wing dogma and it is insane.https://amgreatness.com/2022/03/21/this-thing-all-things-devours/

https://amgreatness.com/2022/03/23/the-real-reset-is-coming/

PVMonger
03-24-22, 16:27
Sorry but the wingers here just don't get it. They complain bitterly about the results of their own policies and blame it on others. There is a reason that their is a labour shortage that is causing supply issues and inflation and it is the squeeze that was put on labour markets by reducing immigration. Now there are no people to fill trucking jobs and all the other low skill jobs wages are going up and there are no people to fill vacancies, causing shortages and inflation. Its an easy fix but don't expect it to come from the right.Don't forget, though, that the wingers firmly believe that all of these uneducated immigrants are coming for their $300/ hour jobs.

I mean, c'Mon! If somebody is uneducated, the only job they're going to be able to obtain is a low-skill, low-wage job. But Republicans say that every Republican has a good, high-paying job. They don't see the illogicalness of it all but, then again, they don't see the illogicalness of most Republican talking points.

PVMonger
03-24-22, 16:46
When she starts weeping like an infant over how much she has loved beer ever since she was sexually assaulting people as a teenager then I'll start worrying about the mental condition of the faction that supports and defends her appointment to the SCOTUS.

When was the last time a nominee was asked such as silly ass irrelevant question? Was she supposed to say, "A wonan has a pussy"? Then what on Earth would that have to do with transgender rights, discrimination or anything else the SCOTUS might some day rule on?

Waiting for the next Repub to accuse her of causing higher gas prices.

On the positive side, it has been suggested this appointee will rally greater support for Biden and other Dems from the critical, decisive black female demographic..Republicans politicians are doing a great job of making themselves look like the morons they are while questioning the Supreme Court nominee. Especially by focusing on child-porn sentencing. It is a well-known fact that about 2/3 of child porn sentences are below the sentencing guidelines. Even judges appointed by the great and powerful wizard of lies (the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy) and done it and done it often.

But I won't bother to provide a link to that fact because the wingers on this board will just call it "fake newZ". But, they'll just call this post "fake news" anyway because, well, they're all expurts in federal sentencing guidelines and because winger media tells them what to think.

But their other hero, Sen. Ted Cruz is the one who really takes the cake.

While grilling Jackson on critical race theory Tuesday, Sen. Ted Cruz described a children's book called "Antiracist Baby. " he turned his steely gaze to Jackson and asked the Harvard-educated veteran jurist if she believes "that babies are racist. "

Some viewers wondered why a man who looks like he rubbed honey on his face then rolled on the floor of a barbershop would pose such a question. In fact, the collective eye roll was so intense the Earth briefly tilted off its axis.

But I stood and cheered the bold senator from Texas / Cancun. He was speaking truth to power and addressing an issue few Americans have ever been willing to face: Babies are incredibly racist. I don't mean just a little racist. I'm talking full-on, fontanel-having, seething bundles of hatred and racial animus. Swaddled little monsters is what they are.

I can already hear the cries of the baby apologists.

"Oh, that's ridiculous. They're so cute!

"Not possible, they've only been alive a few months!

Let me ask you this. When is the last time you heard a baby denounce racism? Hmmm?

Never. They're silent on the issue. If babies aren't racist, and if a clearly intelligent and serious USA Senator is out there floating a possible epidemic of infant racism, don't you think babies themselves would stand up, immediately fall down and then assure everyone they don't have a racist bone in their soft and pliable bodies?

That's Crisis Management 101, folks.

No, these suckers are coming out of the womb hating everyone who doesn't look like them.

Think about it. You often find them wrapped in white sheets. (Coo Cluck Klan?) And if you introduce a white baby to a person of color and then that person leaves the room, the baby acts as though that person no longer exists. Same happens if it's a Black baby meeting a white person. Some say: "Well, that's called object permanence, or the idea that people continue to exist when you don't see or hear them. Babies don't develop that until they're around eight months old. "

To which I say: "That's called a lame attempt to use science to excuse blatant baby racism, and you should be ashamed of your adult self. "

The undeniable reality of widespread, virulent racism among recently born humans is why it was so important that Cruz took precious moments of his and our lives and devoted that time – time none of us will ever get back – to ask a brilliant and widely respected judge about a 24-page, brightly colored children's book. The existence of a book called "Antiracist Baby" suggests it's possible for a baby to not be racist. But as I've proved so eloquently here, all babies are definitely racist. So how can we allow someone on the Supreme Court if she doesn't recognize "Antiracist Baby" as insidious baby-washing propaganda?

As this confirmation hearing continues, I hope Cruz and other sharp Republican senators will continue this important line of questioning. Are babies also racist against Whos, and does the book "Horton Hears a Who!" attempt to gloss over hostile infant Who hatred? Is "The Very Hungry Caterpillar" an allegory for the supremacy of one particular race over all others?

Yes on both counts, probably.

It's high time someone in this country had the courage to call out the vile, Machiavellian babies who have transformed our day cares into playpens of hate.

Before Judge Jackson is confirmed, she must meet what I'll call "the Cruz requirement. " She must stand up, face the American people and honestly declare: "Yes! All babies are racist! Thank you for asking such an important question. Did you all arrive in the same clown car or drive separately?

ScatManDoo
03-24-22, 17:00
Would it be repeating the words "oranges oranges" when you apparently mean to say "origins", "anominus anominus" when you apparently mean to say "anonymous", "Yo, Semite" when you apparently mean to refer to the world renowned American Yosemite National Park?

Could be.

Some would say an American so-called president actively committing Sedition and inciting a violent Insurrection to overthrow American democracy is a symptom of later stage dementia.

And not only for the so-called president himself but even more so for the supposedly American voters who support and defend him, prefer his "leadership" over, well, pretty much anyone else.It is funny how right winger keep screaming that Biden is incompetent.

While instead TrumpShit is the only one clearly demonstrating his advanced age and incompetence.