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What exactly was achieved by Pelosi's Taiwan visit, besides stroking her ego, provoking China to invade Taiwan, increasing chances of thousands of innocent Taiwanese people to get killed (similar to what Biden did to the innocent people killed in Ukraine) and increasing chances of moving more money from US Taxpayers to the military industrial complex? Tooms is right. We don't cower to dictators and we support our democratic partners abroad. We also have no interest in your unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, whether they be about Covid or wars. Only 11 Republican senators voted against the latest aid package to Ukraine. Of those supporting many like Rick Scott were far more hawkish than Biden so accuse all of them of "killing 1000's of innocents. " If you are concerned about human lives then talk to Trump's boy Vlad who started the aggression and war crimes and can stop whenever he likes. But you aren't concerned about that, you want to push your fringe politics in a matter that shares wide bi-partisan support while pretending that it's all about Biden. Yawns.
What are you talking about? Are you claiming that there was "looting and burning" at Jan 6? Provably false, like most of your statements.There was at least some lootings as a couple of characters were charged with stealing items from Pelosi's office. Minor stuff though compared to the baseball bats, bear spray, smashing out windows, beating and killing cops, zip ties, gallows for the VP, all aimed to stop an election certification and transfer of power. But you guys are always the victims. We get it as that's the only role you know how to play. Poor pitiful you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srpwqf2MWAw
Yes, I would count passing a historic bipartisan infrastructure bill, a chip manufacture bill to promote greater USA independence in that critical industry along with more and better USA jobs and the pending Inflation Reduction Act, among dozens of other pro America Dem achievements over the decades over the umpteenth Great Repub Recession, every massive job destruction of the past 100 years and doing nothing but playing golf, diddling their Tweeter, hugging flags, mouthing forgotten anthem lyrics and leading a violent cop-killing insurrection using those flag poles to attack cops to overthrow American democracy while officially branding it "Legitimate Political Discourse" as far, far more telling evidence for which side hates America any day.Talk about statement of the obvious. Chris is owned yet again.
Of course, it never works the other way round. No leftist will ever be ruined for lying about a conservative, as can be seen by the endless lies about the Russia hoax. Then why did a number of individuals connected to the Trump campaign lie about their links to and meetings with Russian officials? Here's a list of indictments and convictions, several of whom Trump later pardoned. Dismissing all that as a "hoax" insults the intelligence of the American people though some need their intelligence insulted. We do know though that Trump is good at evading personal consequences and creating fall guys.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury
MarquisdeSade1
08-09-22, 02:40
Yes, I would count passing a historic bipartisan infrastructure bill, a chip manufacture bill to promote greater USA independence in that critical industry along with more and better USA jobs and the pending Inflation Reduction Act, among dozens of other pro America Dem achievements over the decades over the umpteenth Great Repub Recession, every massive job destruction of the past 100 years and doing nothing but playing golf, diddling their Tweeter, hugging flags, mouthing forgotten anthem lyrics and leading a violent cop-killing insurrection using those flag poles to attack cops to overthrow American democracy while officially branding it "Legitimate Political Discourse" as far, far more telling evidence for which side hates America any day.https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/08/fbi-raids-former-president-donald-trumps-home/
The whole point of the post, which was apparently above and beyond your comprehension level, is that no punishment is exacted upon the violent leftist rioters who burned and looted cities...When it's all fabrication, lies and nonsense, there is nothing to comprehend.
Perhaps, other than to recognize utter total BS, when I see it. Especially coming from someone who loves to gaslight everything to the left of QAnon politics.
I think you must have me confused with fellow right-wing QAnon ISG conspirator kinfolk, that actually believes your nonsense and gaslighting drivel.
May I suggest pontificating and sermonizing your nonsense all you want, to the "choir" on the right, as I'm sure they'll enjoy your parroting of right-wing media talking-points.
The FBI and the entire "Justice" Department have become an integral part of the Washington swamp / deep state. They all have to go. And they will, as our civilization crumbles and can no longer support them.It hilarious, how you see the corruption, failings, ineptitude and inherent faults of other government departments, but blinded by the even more egregious, toxic, abhorrent and sometimes criminal behavior, that is widespread in the "QAnon Repub House of Sin".
Perhaps first try cleaning the GOP / QOP "house of toxicity", which I assure you, will go along way to stabilizing your Trumpian made "crumbling civilization".
PS: FBI raids Orange Dude's Florida home and Mar-a-Lago, this should be interesting.
ScatManDoo
08-09-22, 03:35
Elvis,
I am predicting that the Democrats will lose zero net seats in the Senate.
Largely because the RNC is inept.How is the prediction I made in February turning out?
You just repeated one of my points, with way too many words to justify an ego trip, and without answering exactly what else (diplomatically or commercially) did this Pelosi trip achieved. I know why though, because it didn't achieve anything else, and you know it. Grow some balls to accept defeat and learn.At the very least it is great for America, our allies and democracy to have the duly elected 2nd in line for the presidency and one of the best Speakers of the House ever show support for Taiwan before likely consistent historical precedent finds an America-hating QAnon Repub loon like spineless KevIn McCarthy assuming the gavel and launching into the typical Repub ass licking of America's adversaries both foreign and domestic.
Wilson, WY — Former Vice President Dick Cheney, who famously started two wars in the Middle East and shot a dude in the face while hunting, now says Donald Trump is the greatest threat America has ever faced.
"Donald Trump is an evil reprobate and a big meanie, and a danger to our Constitutional rights," growled the retired politician who orchestrated the brutal torture of hundreds of detainees who were held without trial. "We must make sure he never gets elected to office again. And also, vote for my daughter, Liz."
Political consultants applauded Liz Cheney for her brilliant move of tapping one of the most hated politicians in history to help boost her political chances. Initial polling indicates her approval has climbed. 0000002 percentage points since Dick Cheney's statement.
"If there's a singular figure universally adored by every hard-working American, it's Dick Cheney," said a spokesperson for the campaign. "We are grateful for his endorsement, and look forward to seeing her represent the citizens of Wyoming."
Trump was quick to respond to Cheney's statement, saying "Poor little Dick Cheney! He's so mad that I got elected president instead of him. Boo hoo! Maybe he should stop shooting dudes in the face! Sorry, Dick!
At publishing time, Liz Cheney's approval dipped again after her Dad accidentally shot another dude in the face.
HAHAHAHA! Congratulations! I didn't think it was possible, but you have officially superseded Eihtooms as the comedy king of the forum. Have mercy on my aching ribs.
What a great month this has been so far for America, its economy, the future, law and order and democracy!
Talk about statement of the obvious. Chris is owned yet again.
PS: FBI raids Orange Dude's Florida home and Mar-a-Lago, this should be interesting.MAGA-ots are not pleased.
ScatManDoo
08-09-22, 04:55
Months ago federal employees went to Mar-a-lago to retrieve the contents of approximately 14 boxes of records that TrumpShit took from the White House in January 2020 because he was voted out of office.
There has been no reporting of how much of the 14 boxes of records were retrieved and what portion was still missing.
If federal classified documents were in a Mar-a-lago safe today at the FBI search.
I would guess TS would be arrested first and booked later.
Like a street thug on any ordinary day.
FUX News' lead story tomorrow:
WH Document Reveals Biden Did Not Object When Obama Wore a Tan Suit That Day!
Then why did a number of individuals connected to the Trump campaign lie about their links...The Manafort prosecution was about his work before he briefly joined the Trump campaign. He pulled exactly the same shenanigans that all these political bigwigs do, notably Crooked Hillary's consiglieres the Podestas, but as usual the law was not applied equally. So the Podestas were given a free pass while Manafort went down (with a biased left Washington judge and jury of course).
Just like Eric Holder was given a free pass for his contempt of congress, but Steve Bannon is being persecuted for exactly the same thing. Like how Trump's home was raided on a bullshit fishing expedition while Crooked Hillary was allowed to walk despite rock-solid evidence that she illegally used a private server for her dubious dealings while Secretary of State and deleted and acid-washed the emails. Just like Hunter Biden can lie on a federal gun form, abuse drugs, and act as Joe's bagman as he sold political influence. All the evidence available on his laptop. And again nothing happens.
As to the handful of others, like Papadopoulos and Flynn, they were bullshit process crimes where the FBI interrogate them for hours and hours until they accidentally misspeak ("I went on Tuesday", when it was actually Wednesday).
The central case of the Russia hoax was investigated for two years with unlimited resources, and they found nothing because there was nothing to find. It was a lie and hoax, like most of what the deep state / left produces (men are women, the border is secure, diversity is our strength, Biden got 81 m votes, etc).
Talk about statement of the obvious.If by "obvious" you mean a torrent of turgid, unreadable wordsludge with the proven false allegation that anyone other than Ashli Babbitt was killed on Jan 6.
we support our democratic partners abroadWould that be the "democratic" Ukraine where in 2014 with the help of the CIA the democratically-elected president was violently overthrown (a real insurrection, as opposed to the fake Jan 6 bullshit); and since then the CIA coup government has banned the use of the Russian language despite half the country being Russian speakers; violently forced the shutdown of opposing TV stations; and shut down and arrested the largest opposition party and its leaders?
That "democratic partner"?
P.S. Only 30% of the over $50 billion in weaponry Congress sent (instead of helping hard-pressed Americans) even gets to Ukrainian troops. Where does all that weaponry and money go? And how many mansions does Zelensky own around the world?
FUX News' lead story tomorrow:
WH Document Reveals Biden Did Not Object When Obama Wore a Tan Suit That Day!Yeah, I've heard somewhere, the entertainment and comic relief, is fantastic over at FOXY News.
ScatManDoo
08-10-22, 01:53
Would that be the "democratic" Ukraine where in 2014 with the help of the CIA the democratically-elected president was violently overthrown (a real insurrection, as opposed to the fake Jan 6 bullshit)Donald Trump was not involved in a fake coup.
Rather, he was the head of a failed coup.
And he's going to jail for his criminal acts.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/08/fbi-raids-former-president-donald-trumps-home/If Traitor Trump thinks the legal entry and confiscation of items that were subpoena'd but never returned to its rightful owners (We, The People) was not done properly, there is a place for him to make a case for that; under oath in a court of law.
Making a case for it NOT under oath on the steps outside a courtroom, on FUX News, by Tweet or shouting on a street corner by him or any of his hired or free spokesmen is for cowards and liars.
Though I support the USA acting like Switzerland and staying neutral, where's the money in that for the US politicians and their sons like Hunter? $50 billion in aid, 70% missing with arms likely being sold on the black market by the Ukrainian Mafia and a 10% kickback for "The Big Guy" is where the money is!
Would that be the "democratic" Ukraine where in 2014 with the help of the CIA the democratically-elected president was violently overthrown (a real insurrection, as opposed to the fake Jan 6 bullshit); and since then the CIA coup government has banned the use of the Russian language despite half the country being Russian speakers; violently forced the shutdown of opposing TV stations; and shut down and arrested the largest opposition party and its leaders?
That "democratic partner"?
P.S. Only 30% of the over $50 billion in weaponry Congress sent (instead of helping hard-pressed Americans) even gets to Ukrainian troops. Where does all that weaponry and money go? And how many mansions does Zelensky own around the world?
ErsatzJulian
08-10-22, 03:40
And how many mansions does Zelensky own around the world?Excellent question! How many? And do you have the documents to prove that they belong to Zelensky?
DramaFree11
08-10-22, 05:37
Excellent question! How many? And do you have the documents to prove that they belong to Zelensky?Exactly, we should have been investigating this clown from the beginning, but no we just keep giving him money.
Much of "psychiatry" is some weird fantasy made up by a coke-addled jew about fucking his mother or something. There is no empirical test for any of it. It is as scientifically valid as witch doctors in Burkina Faso or the Congo. Sure it maybe seen as "witch doctoring" in Burkina Faso or the Congo (and even Russia), but here in America and most of western civilization the science is valid. We do you live again?
In real branches of medicine, there is empirical evidence: you break your arm, the fracture is right there on the X-ray; you get lung cancer, the cancer cells show up on the scan.
There is no brain scan from which one can tell what so-called "psychiatric affliction" a patient has. It's just on the claim of some psychiatrist, with no way to prove it either way. This was abused in the USSR, where political dissidents against the communist tyranny were declared "mentally ill" by "psychiatrists", and locked up indefinitely. Now the communists are in America, and they're using the same tricks. Plus ca change.
If anything, what your post proves, is that the science of psychiatry (ie. technology...etc) or any science for matter, can be weaponized, politicize and used for good or bad purposes. Much like the QAnon/Repubs are doing with the science of climate change.
Naturally, a fascist dictatorship like Russia would use any means necessary to "silence" their dissidents. Today Russia just goes straight for the poison in the tea.
All that said the science of psychiatry, here in America, is widely adopted, practiced and accepted as a mature medical science.
In the case of Alex Jones, at the end of the day, his lawyer just didn't present a strong enough case to impugn the veracity of the plaintiffs claim to mental abuse, pain and suffering.
Regardless of QAnon "quackery" or lunatic beliefs around psychiatry in Russia, the bottom line is, the US Texas Court's verdict, sided with the Sandy Hook plaintiffs, to the tune of $45 million in punitive damages.
Donald Trump was not involved in a fake coup.
Rather, he was the head of a failed coup.
ROFL sure, the "coup" in which not a single participant had a gun, and in which the only person who was killed was an unarmed military veteran protester named Ashli Babbitt. And from which Trump told people to go home. A truly serious insurrection, in the same way that you are a truly intelligent person.
Though I support the USA acting like Switzerland and staying neutral, where's the money in that for the US politicians and their sons like Hunter? $50 billion in aid, 70% missing with arms likely being sold on the black market by the Ukrainian Mafia and a 10% kickback for "The Big Guy" is where the money is!LOL exactly: the first kickbacks for the politicians linked to the military-industrial complex in America for producing these tens of billions of dollars of weapons at taxpayer expense; and then the next layer of kickbacks once they reach Ukraine (or wherever) and most of them get stolen and sold on by various shady buddies of Hunter and Zelensky, so they can add to their extensive international real estate portfolios.
In related news, inflation is the highest in half a century and we're $30 trillion in debt!
Excellent question! How many? And do you have the documents to prove that they belong to Zelensky?Before he became "The Current Hero", even the leftist fake news used to report on Zelensky's shady dealings. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/03/revealed-anti-oligarch-ukrainian-president-offshore-connections-volodymyr-zelenskiy.
Kind of like how they used to mock Biden as a plagiarist and idiot before his coverage suddenly became similar to Kim Jong Un's in the North Korean media. Weird, huh?
Sure it maybe seen as "witch doctoring" in Burkina Faso or the Congo (and even Russia), but here in America and most of western civilization the science is valid. You clearly don't understand science (or anything else, but I digress). Science must be provable and replicable. For instance, you can go anywhere in the world, in any conditions, at any time, and if you heat water to 100 degree celsius, it will boil. That is science.
What science is not is some leftist jew high on coke spouting a weird bullshit fantasy about fucking his mother.
There is no replicable proof of "mental illness". You can't scan someone's brain and say "Aha! That clump of cells in that formation means he is going to stab someone next Tuesday". Similarly, there is no provable or replicable "cure" for "mental illness". Some people feel better if they go work out. Some people feel better if they find a hot girlfriend. Some people just get over it in time.
It's particularly ironic you mentioned "psychiatry" now because just the other day a huge study came out showing that SSRI "antidepressants" don't work.
The whole field is unscientific. Maybe some people find it calming and relaxing to talk about their problems to a psychiatrist, but it is not replicable or provable, and therefore not science.
the science of psychiatry (ie. technology...etc) or any science for matter, can be weaponized, politicize and used for good or bad purposes. Much like the QAnon/Repubs are doing with the science of climate change.
"the science of psychiatry (ie technology. Etc)"? WTF does that mean? What technology in psychiatry? Are you just putting random buzzwords together? That might work for CNN and its 12 viewers stuck at airports, but the rest of us have a higher standard.
As for "the science of climate change", would that be the same "science" that assured us that Maldives and Manhattan would both be underwater by now? Still looking pretty darn dry. Any day now.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/the-great-failure-of-the-climate-models
Vagabundo1
08-10-22, 14:32
So, where are my stock and option traders?
Credit Suisse is calling for another 1000 drop in the S&P 500, to 3120 (see attached).
The rising wedge pattern (see attached) was broken yesterday (my chart, attached).
This President and Democratic Congress are totally leading the USA into unnecessary wars, and blowing up the economy with inflation due to leftist tree hugger environmental nazis!
I think S&P 500 drops after this CPI related bounced today?
What are your political economic opinions?
ScatManDoo
08-10-22, 15:58
ROFL sure, the "coup" in which not a single participant had a gun,I saw it on TV.
I saw the violence that injured over 100 officers trying to keep Trmp's Shit out of the Capital.
ScatManDoo
08-10-22, 17:47
"Only criminals take the fifth" according to Donald Trump.
And criminal ex-president Donald Trump should know.
Donald Trump took the fifth today, numerous times, like the cheap shit criminal that he is.
I wonder, is he the first disgraced former president to slither and claim the 5th amendment?
I found these quotes today, all of which I like.
"The Zionists indeed learnt well from the Nazis. So well that it seems that their morally repugnant treatment of the Palestinians, and their attempts to destroy Palestinian society within Israel and the occupied territories, reveals them as basically Nazis with beards and black hats. " Norman Finkelstein.
"You may think your actions are meaningless and that they won't help, but that is no excuse, you must still act. " -Mohandas K. Gandhi.
"Trust is a two way street. If your government does not trust you, how can you trust your government?" - -- Bruce Montague.
"You can almost predict (US) policy by that simple principle: Does it help rich people or does it help the general population? And from that you can virtually deduce what's going to happen. " Noam Chomsky.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1557141679802548227
More 'Must See" TV:
https://mobile.twitter.com/traecrowder/status/1557101943918538752
https://mobile.twitter.com/BrentTerhune/status/1557071332545789954
ScatManDoo
08-10-22, 19:08
The week started with a raid of a crime scene. On humpday TrumpShit took the fifth. Best thing to round out the week would be an indictment.
I really don't expect an indictment as soon as this week, but it could happen.
The FBI took out 12 boxes from Mar-a-lago containing items.
TrumpShit has a copy of the search warrant and a list of the items taken by the FBI on Monday. Why won't TrumpShit release the warrant and list?
If we keep on hearing his continued whining about the raid.
And if the real news and Fox news continues to be filled with other GOP hacks whining about the raid.
DOJ will just be compelled to charge TrumpShit and detail some of the contents of the 12 boxes they carried out of Florida.
My guess is before the end of August.
Which will really work out well for the bet I made nearly half a year ago that TrumpShit gets indicted by September 1st.
Elvis 2008
08-10-22, 19:18
Months ago federal employees went to Mar-a-lago to retrieve the contents of approximately 14 boxes of records that TrumpShit took from the White House in January 2020 because he was voted out of office.
There has been no reporting of how much of the 14 boxes of records were retrieved and what portion was still missing.
If federal classified documents were in a Mar-a-lago safe today at the FBI search.
I would guess TS would be arrested first and booked later.
Like a street thug on any ordinary day.I see. So they should arrest Trump for the same thing they let Hiliary Clinton walk on.
Scatmandoo, do you think when you go vote, there should be a tab on the ballot that says, "whomever the FBI wants" as a selection. It seems to me that would save someone like you precious time at the ballot box. You are clearly a cheerleader of the police state.
So, where are my stock and option traders?
Credit Suisse is calling for another 1000 drop in the S&P 500, to 3120 (see attached).
The rising wedge pattern (see attached) was broken yesterday (my chart, attached).
This President and Democratic Congress are totally leading the USA into unnecessary wars, and blowing up the economy with inflation due to leftist tree hugger environmental nazis!
I think S&P 500 drops after this CPI related bounced today?
What are your political economic opinions?Would that be this Credit Suisse?
Credit Suisse plots comeback after costly mistakes took it to the brink.
April 28, 2021
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/credit-suisse-plots-comeback-after--costly-mistakes--took-it-to-the-brink/46571798
As Credit Suisse executives finalised an emergency $1. 9 billion (CHF1. 75 billion) fundraising from investors last week, a group of the bank's prized super-rich clients from across Europe and Asia were on a separate Zoom call hosted by law firm Boies Schiller Flexner to plot a class-action suit against the lender.
The clients had been persuaded by Credit Suisse to invest in its collection of supply chain finance funds, backed by the now collapsed Greensill Capital, that were marketed as ultra-safe with limited credit risk given multiple layers of protection.
Those on the call are among the 4,000 investors who ploughed a total of $10 billion into the funds but who now look set to lose up to a quarter of their stakes after Credit Suisse suspended the funds in March. Just weeks later, the bank was pummelled by its biggest quarterly trading loss in more than a decade $4.7 billion linked to the collapse of family office Archegos Capital.
The twin blows have again put Credit Suisse in the spotlight for all the wrong reasons, raising doubts about the 165-year-old banks very existence and whether it will be broken up or survive in a European banking market that is under pressure to consolidate.
.....
Credit Suisse has lurched from one disaster to another in recent years. Its previous chief executive, Tidjane Thiam, was forced out over an embarrassing spying scandal. Barely a year later, the Greensill and Archegos calamities have led to multibillion-dollar losses, more executive departures, the threat of litigation and a cratering share price. Now that America has experienced its first year in decades without being at war with any other country, you'll have to remind us when and where Biden and the Dems declared war, deployed troops, occupied Capitols, etc lately.
So, will that 1000 point drop in the S&P 500 Index happen "soon" after today? Will it be tomorrow? Within a week or so?
Because if it is just "someday", well, that is a prediction that pretty much anyone could make and eventually be proven correct, wouldn't you say?
Right now, I don't see anything in the fundamentals that would suggest a 25-30% plunge in the S&P 500 Index. But I suppose it could happen if some weird thing occurs that triggers a panic sell-off.
If so, I would see that as a terrific buying opportunity, a major retesting of a low (which in itself could be a good thing), and nothing more frightening than that. I already went on record here 2-3 months ago by posting my judgement that the S&P 500 Index will likely be tickling around the 5000 level "within a year and possibly by the end of this year. ".
Nothing since then has yet changed my judgement about that and instead has only firmed it.
If Traitor Trump thinks the legal entry and confiscation of items that were subpoena'd but never returned to its rightful owners (We, The People) was not done properly, there is a place for him to make a case for that; under oath in a court of law.
Making a case for it NOT under oath on the steps outside a courtroom, on FUX News, by Tweet or shouting on a street corner by him or any of his hired or free spokesmen is for cowards and liars.While it provides a golden opportunity for the all too typical MAGA victimhood. Also this "the govt is coming to get you" hysteria didn't start here but traces back to the 90's and has fueled plenty of violence.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/09/trump-search-warrant-violence/
He must be asking himself that question today. Unless the rat ratted on himself in order to squeeze more much needed donation money from his sucker cult followers, of course.
https://youtu.be/GcVSC-BgTww
I think his own Repub FBI Director appointee timed it to coincide with and distract a willing Mainstream Media's attention from the announcement of Biden and the Dems' latest historic positive achievement on behalf of the America people with the passage of their terrific (Trump / Repub-caused) Inflation Reduction Act.
At the same time, his Repub FBI Director apppintee gave Trump and his Repub Party a phony "victim" scenario on which to raise campaign funds they desperately need and have been lagging far behind on vs their Dem opponents.
ScatManDoo
08-11-22, 02:19
I see. So they should arrest Trump for the same thing they let Hiliary Clinton walk on.Hilary Clinton's e-mail matters were deeply investigated.
When no evidence of mishandling was found, no charges were filed. People who are not criminals usually don't get locked up.
I very much look forward to seeing the results of the FBI's current investigation.
Was TrumpShit too stupid to just rent a copier, copy what he wanted, and return ALL the originals?
What a fucking idiot!
Lock him up. Lock him up. Lock him up. Lock the idiot up!!
Report: By 2026 Everyone In USA Will Be Working For IRS And Will All Just Be Auditing Each Other.
USA — A new report is predicting a 0% unemployment rate by the year 2026, as every American will be working for the IRS and be hard at work auditing other American citizens who work for the IRS.
"America's glorious future is upon us," said President Biden to a statue of Mao Tse Dung in his office. "Soon we will have perfect compliance with tax code as everyone becomes a tax collector for the IRS. Everything will be funded and we'll make the transition to green energy, and no one will ever suffer again! Come on! It's not rocket science, Jack!
The job will require no intelligence or formal education, as tax calculations can be easily made by computers that will monitor the transactions of every American. Workers will simply press a button at their computer to initiate the auditing sequence and will be equipped with a gun and a badge to arrest any friends and neighbors found to be incompliant.
Unfortunately, the report also predicts GDP plunging to zero dollars in 2027 and mass starvation and death by 2028 as farmers spend all their time filling out IRS forms and responiding to audits and not having time to grow food for people to eat. . .
While it provides a golden opportunity for the all too typical MAGA victimhood. Also this "the govt is coming to get you" (With 87000 new IRS Agents?) hysteria didn't start here but traces back to the 90's and has fueled plenty of violence.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/09/trump-search-warrant-violence/
The week started with a raid of a crime scene. On humpday TrumpShit took the fifth. Best thing to round out the week would be an indictment.
I really don't expect an indictment as soon as this week, but it could happen.
The FBI took out 12 boxes from Mar-a-lago containing items.
TrumpShit has a copy of the search warrant and a list of the items taken by the FBI on Monday. Why won't TrumpShit release the warrant and list?
If we keep on hearing his continued whining about the raid.
And if the real news and Fox news continues to be filled with other GOP hacks whining about the raid.
DOJ will just be compelled to charge TrumpShit and detail some of the contents of the 12 boxes they carried out of Florida.
My guess is before the end of August.
Which will really work out well for the bet I made nearly half a year ago that TrumpShit gets indicted by September 1st.Yes, reports are Trump took the Fifth Amendment 450+ times:
Donald Trump Pleads the Fifth After Saying Only Guilty People Do
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-pleads-fifth-after-saying-only-guilty-people-do-1732549
During the 2016 campaign, Trump had blasted aides of his former opponent, Democrat Hillary Clinton, for pleading the Fifth in the probe of her use of a private email server.
"So there are five people taking the Fifth Amendment, like you see on the mob, right? You see the mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" Trump told the crowd at an Iowa rally in September 2016.In Hillary Clinton's case, the Repub-appointed FBI Director found no criminal wrongdoing by Clinton in the deletion of her largely personal emails months before a subpoena was issued for them and scant evidence any of them were clearly designated as "Classified" as usual anyway:
FBI: No evidence Clinton ordered deletion of subpoenaed email archive
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/298272-fbi-no-evidence-clinton-ordered-deletion-of-subpoenaed-email-archive/
FBIs Comey says no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case against Clinton for emails
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/05/fbi-director-james-comey-has-concluded-the-investigation-into-clintons-emails.html
ScatManDoo
08-11-22, 16:28
Maybe all those old listening devices TrumpShit was contantly whining about (until he forgot about them) might bear fruit.
HaHaHaHa.
Elvis 2008
08-11-22, 16:40
Hilary Clinton's e-mail matters were deeply investigated.
When no evidence of mishandling was found, no charges were filed. People who are not criminals usually don't get locked up.No, Hiliary was found to have committed a crime. She was not prosecuted. Loretta Lynch was compromised and was relieved of her prosecutorial duty when she took a meeting with Bill Clinton that was inappropriate.
That left the decision to prosecute not to the prosecutor but to "the cop" James Comey. Comey elected not to prosecute which was never his job. When the decision was made not to prosecute by Comey, some FBI agents were throwing sandwiches in disgust at the TV screen Comey was speaking on.
Comey said that he was not prosecuting Hiliary but was clear that no one should do what she did, and they would be prosecuted if they did as she did with classified documents.
I very much look forward to seeing the results of the FBI's current investigation.Well then you are going to be very disappointed. You see unlike Hiliary a president has the right to declassify whatever he wants so you cannot get a president for having classified documents because he can say he had the right to declassify them. In fact, what happened is Trump had documents he meant to declassify likely about Russiagate and the FBI was fucking around and saying they could not declassify them at the current time which they do not have the right to do.
More than that, being a Democratic douche, you believe Republicans should not have civil rights. The 4th Amendment states "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized".
And there were about a hundred things wrong with the search: the number of agents, kicking people out of the house, searching the whole house, the warrant being partially sealed and being shown from 10 feet away, asking to turn off the video cameras, 30 agents being present and going through Melania Trump's closet. You will never get a conviction with any one of these tactics let alone all of them. There are too many red flags and you will never get beyond a reasonable doubt where the FBI could plant whatever it wanted. The warrant was not limited to time, place, and scope.
Then you have an old FBI agent telling the media it was a search not a raid: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/media-stopped-describing-targeting-trump-raid-after-former-fbi-agent-complained.
This search / raid was out of the headlines faster than Covid disappeared after the Ukraine war, and you know why? Because it was never about getting Trump. It was getting documents the FBI did not want the public to see.
Whatever the FBI seized, they will keep as part of an ongoing investigation. The warrant will never see the light of day because it is part of an ongoing investigation as well.
No, this was part of a criminal investigation to get the documents the FBI did not want people to see. The FBI would have to show its hand if they charged Trump with anything and they are not going to do it.
ScatManDoo
08-11-22, 19:33
Report: By 2026 Everyone In USA Will Be Working For IRS And Will All Just Be Auditing Each Other.
USA A new report is predicting a 0% unemployment rate by the year 2026, as every American will be working for the IRS and be hard at work auditing other American citizens who work for the IRS.
"America's glorious future is upon us," said President Biden to a statue of Mao Tse Dung in his office. "Soon we will have perfect compliance with tax code as everyone becomes a tax collector for the IRS. Everything will be funded and we'll make the transition to green energy, and no one will ever suffer again! Come on! It's not rocket science, Jack!
The job will require no intelligence or formal education, as tax calculations can be easily made by computers that will monitor the transactions of every American. Workers will simply press a button at their computer to initiate the auditing sequence and will be equipped with a gun and a badge to arrest any friends and neighbors found to be incompliant.
Unfortunately, the report also predicts GDP plunging to zero dollars in 2027 and mass starvation and death by 2028 as farmers spend all their time filling out IRS forms and responiding to audits and not having time to grow food for people to eat. . .More unblogworthy amateur humor copied here by Travv.
ScatManDoo
08-11-22, 19:48
I wonder if Mitch McConnel and TrumpShit wish Merrick Garland was instead sitting on the Supreme Court today?
MarquisdeSade1
08-11-22, 20:19
Report: By 2026 Everyone In USA Will Be Working For IRS And Will All Just Be Auditing Each Other.
USA A new report is predicting a 0% unemployment rate by the year 2026, as every American will be working for the IRS and be hard at work auditing other American citizens who work for the IRS.
"America's glorious future is upon us," said President Biden to a statue of Mao Tse Dung in his office. "Soon we will have perfect compliance with tax code as everyone becomes a tax collector for the IRS. Everything will be funded and we'll make the transition to green energy, and no one will ever suffer again! Come on! It's not rocket science, Jack!
The job will require no intelligence or formal education, as tax calculations can be easily made by computers that will monitor the transactions of every American. Workers will simply press a button at their computer to initiate the auditing sequence and will be equipped with a gun and a badge to arrest any friends and neighbors found to be incompliant.
Unfortunately, the report also predicts GDP plunging to zero dollars in 2027 and mass starvation and death by 2028 as farmers spend all their time filling out IRS forms and responiding to audits and not having time to grow food for people to eat. . .It could be funny if all of us weren't the victims of their utter gross incompetence.
Lest we forget Maos Cultural Revolution.
And Maos Great Famine.
History is repeating itself, Biden style!!
ScatManDoo
08-11-22, 21:02
That today (8/11) was the 58th straight days of US gas price declines.
That the gas price declines were a big reason that overall July consumer prices had no inflation from June.
That terrorist Ayman al-Zawahri is still dead.
The $22,000 per night rooms in the exclusive lower level 'Archive Wing' in Mar-a-Lago resort is no longer taking Christmas season reservations.
Lock him up. Lock him up. Lock Shit up.
USA — FBI Director Christopher Wray has come under criticism for his raiding of former President Trump's residence. He responded this morning by announcing that all who criticize the FBI's raid will have their own homes raided as well.
"We will not tolerate any disparagement of this proud and incorruptible federal law enforcement agency that has never done anything wrong," said Wray. "All who oppose us are dangerous and deplorable. Prepare to be raided, suckas!
Wray then directed bureaus to cooperate with local S. W. A. T. Teams and search the homes of everyone who expressed anger and disgust at the FBI raid on Trump's home in Mar-A-Lago. "We will not rest until every deplorable sock drawer has been dumped out and every dangerous home safe has been broken into. Anyone who resists will be sent to GITMO. Don't mess with me, man!
News media assured the country the raids were completely legal as a federal judge formerly from Epstein's defense team signed off on them. . .
Yes, reports are Trump took the Fifth Amendment 450+ times:
Donald Trump Pleads the Fifth After Saying Only Guilty People Do
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-pleads-fifth-after-saying-only-guilty-people-do-1732549
In Hillary Clinton's case, the Repub-appointed FBI Director found no criminal wrongdoing by Clinton in the deletion of her largely personal emails months before a subpoena was issued for them and scant evidence any of them were clearly designated as "Classified" as usual anyway:
FBI: No evidence Clinton ordered deletion of subpoenaed email archive
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/298272-fbi-no-evidence-clinton-ordered-deletion-of-subpoenaed-email-archive/
FBIs Comey says no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case against Clinton for emails
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/05/fbi-director-james-comey-has-concluded-the-investigation-into-clintons-emails.html
No, Hiliary was found to have committed a crime. She was not prosecuted. Loretta Lynch was compromised and was relieved of her prosecutorial duty when she took a meeting with Bill Clinton that was inappropriate.
That left the decision to prosecute not to the prosecutor but to "the cop" James Comey. Comey elected not to prosecute which was never his job. When the decision was made not to prosecute by Comey, some FBI agents were throwing sandwiches in disgust at the TV screen Comey was speaking on.
Comey said that he was not prosecuting Hiliary but was clear that no one should do what she did, and they would be prosecuted if they did as she did with classified documents.For those who prefer to read the commentary and analysis from the people who examined whether or not Hillary should have been prosecuted:
https://time.com/4394178/hillary-clinton-email-fbi-investigation/
As almost everyone who is fair-minded would conclude: Hillary acted carelessly but not with criminal intent. Somewhat surprisingly the people who made the decision whether or not to prosecute were life-long experienced investigative agents and prosecutors and not a partisan hack here on ISG who hasn't been to college much less law school.
More than that, being a Democratic douche, you believe Republicans should not have civil rights. The 4th Amendment states "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized".
And there were about a hundred things wrong with the search: the number of agents, kicking people out of the house, searching the whole house, the warrant being partially sealed and being shown from 10 feet away, asking to turn off the video cameras, 30 agents being present and going through Melania Trump's closet. You will never get a conviction with any one of these tactics let alone all of them. There are too many red flags and you will never get beyond a reasonable doubt where the FBI could plant whatever it wanted. The warrant was not limited to time, place, and scope.
This search / raid was out of the headlines faster than Covid disappeared after the Ukraine war, and you know why? Because it was never about getting Trump. It was getting documents the FBI did not want the public to see.
Whatever the FBI seized, they will keep as part of an ongoing investigation. The warrant will never see the light of day because it is part of an ongoing investigation as well.
No, this was part of a criminal investigation to get the documents the FBI did not want people to see. The FBI would have to show its hand if they charged Trump with anything and they are not going to do it.Here is an article about the Judge who signed the warrant to allow the search / raid. Oddly enough he has a reputation as a stickler for legalities and details.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/08/10/judge-bruce-reinhart-signed-off-search-warrant-trump-mar-lago/10293403002/
I found this quote in the article from a colleague interesting:
Ellen Cohen, who worked with Reinhart when he was a prosecutor, a defense attorney and a magistrate, described her former colleague as meticulous.
Every time I brought a search warrant to him and I brought many he read it, digested it and asked questions, said Cohen, who retired recently after a 41-year career as a prosecutor. He wasnt someone who would sign off on it just because the government presented it to him.
Once again the questions arises? Does a partisan hack, with no educational credentials to speak of and with no knowledge of the law or legal procedures, know anything that experienced prosecutors and a "meticulous" judge didn't know? I think not.
MarquisdeSade1
08-12-22, 04:20
It could be funny if all of us weren't the victims of their utter gross incompetence.
Lest we forget Maos Cultural Revolution.
And Maos Great Famine.
History is repeating itself, Biden style!!https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/opinion/fbi-trump-mar-a-lago-raid.html
No, Hiliary was found to have committed a crime. She was not prosecuted. Loretta Lynch was compromised and was relieved of her prosecutorial duty when she took a meeting with Bill Clinton that was inappropriate.
That left the decision to prosecute not to the prosecutor but to "the cop" James Comey. Comey elected not to prosecute which was never his job. When the decision was made not to prosecute by Comey, some FBI agents were throwing sandwiches in disgust at the TV screen Comey was speaking on.
Comey said that he was not prosecuting Hiliary but was clear that no one should do what she did, and they would be prosecuted if they did as she did with classified documents.
Well then you are going to be very disappointed. You see unlike Hiliary a president has the right to declassify whatever he wants so you cannot get a president for having classified documents because he can say he had the right to declassify them. In fact, what happened is Trump had documents he meant to declassify likely about Russiagate and the FBI was fucking around and saying they could not declassify them at the current time which they do not have the right to do.
More than that, being a Democratic douche, you believe Republicans should not have civil rights. The 4th Amendment states "no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized"..I don't think the Presidential Declassification Process amounts to some dude pointing to 25+ boxes of material and pronouncing, "I deem all that stuff 'Declassified'" just loud enough for the moving van guys to barely hear it.
If Trump had declassified them by normal means, why didn't he just say so and prove it months ago when he defied the subpoena to return them to their rightful owner?
And, no, tearing up documents and flushing them down the toilet or chewing them up and eating them are also not the normal Presidential Declassification Process either.
I wonder if he tried to eat the safe.
MarquisdeSade1
08-12-22, 05:45
USA FBI Director Christopher Wray has come under criticism for his raiding of former President Trump's residence. He responded this morning by announcing that all who criticize the FBI's raid will have their own homes raided as well.
"We will not tolerate any disparagement of this proud and incorruptible federal law enforcement agency that has never done anything wrong," said Wray. "All who oppose us are dangerous and deplorable. Prepare to be raided, suckas!
Wray then directed bureaus to cooperate with local S. W. A. T. Teams and search the homes of everyone who expressed anger and disgust at the FBI raid on Trump's home in Mar-A-Lago. "We will not rest until every deplorable sock drawer has been dumped out and every dangerous home safe has been broken into. Anyone who resists will be sent to GITMO. Don't mess with me, man!.https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-york-times-columnist-david-brooks-fears-fbi-raid-will-re-elect-donald-trump
Elvis 2008
08-12-22, 05:47
USA FBI Director Christopher Wray has come under criticism for his raiding of former President Trump's residence. He responded this morning by announcing that all who criticize the FBI's raid will have their own homes raided as well.
"We will not tolerate any disparagement of this proud and incorruptible federal law enforcement agency that has never done anything wrong," said Wray. "All who oppose us are dangerous and deplorable. Prepare to be raided, suckas!
Wray then directed bureaus to cooperate with local S. W. A. T. Teams and search the homes of everyone who expressed anger and disgust at the FBI raid on Trump's home in Mar-A-Lago. "We will not rest until every deplorable sock drawer has been dumped out and every dangerous home safe has been broken into. Anyone who resists will be sent to GITMO. Don't mess with me, man!
News media assured the country the raids were completely legal as a federal judge formerly from Epstein's defense team signed off on them. . .I know the photo is fake but I still love this one of the judge: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bruce-reinhart-ghislaine-maxwell/.
Hell, even the real photo is horrible.
Thing is judges always bend over backwards to kiss LE's enforcement butts. The worst is when SCOTUS granted LE qualified immunity.
Just look at this fucking case where a cop shot a 10 year old: https://reason.com/2019/07/16/court-rules-police-officer-who-shot-10-year-old-is-protected-by-qualified-immunity/.
"Would a reasonable police officer have known that he was violating a constitutional right? That is essentially the litmus test."
What this means is not if one in two officers would have shot the kid but one in a hundred would have done so then what the officer had done, shooting the kid, was legal. WTF is wrong with this country when a cop shooting an innocent kid is ok? But if you shot a kid? They would lock you up for life and sue the shit out of the gun manufacturer.
Do you think these cops would have kept their knee on George Floyd's neck if they would have lost their pension? Hell no. Because the courts gave LE the right to throw the Constitution in the trash, LE violates the civil rights of people all the time.
And now you assholes are spying on Trump again? The first time was not enough? How many fucking times do you fucking FBI assholes spy on presidents? If you are a dumbshit douche Democrat like Scattman do do. Pile on Pauline, or Bagdad Bob, you are cheering on the FBI while they completely diminish the power the average citizens has. Yeah, Trump cannot run for president because we say so. This FBI dipshits have already shown they have no respect for the average voter. Do you remember Strzok's texts? Stopping Trump? The smell of the Trump voter?
Seeing how this case has to be prosecuted in Florida, the FBI can forget about getting a conviction, and they fucking know it. Why would any Republican trust anything the FBI did after Russiagate? You had fucking Comey bragging about sabotaging Trump's presidency from day one when he went after Flynn. Just the way this warrant was handled was disgusting.
But it is not about that. Trump had dirt on the FBI, and a criminal investigation was the bullshit excuse they used to seize that information. That is all that makes sense. That is why the FBI is using the term search instead of raid and why they illegally went all over the house.
What happens to LE when they trample the 4th amendment like they did here? Nothing. They just have to throw out the evidence they illegally obtained. If this case makes its way to SCOTUS and it would, SCOTUS not only would toss all the illegally obtained evidence, they might toss the FBI's qualified immunity. That would allow Trump to sue the FBI into the next century which might actually force LE to be more human. The only way the FBI can prevent that is not bringing a case at all.
The FBI is going to try to seal all this evidence against them up for decades if they can. The shame of it all has been that it has been Democrats not Republicans leading the way on qualified immunity. WTF is up with LE breaking the most sacred law of our country and not being able to sued for shooting children? If Trump retracts qualified immunity, then and only then he can really fuck up the FBI.
... "the science of psychiatry (ie technology. Etc)"? WTF does that mean? What technology in psychiatry? ie. Meaning any technology, science, tech, machinery, tool or piece of equipment can be used for good or bad. ie. The doctor decides how to weld the scalpel.
Psychiatry is the medical specialty devoted to the diagnosis, prevention, and treatment of mental disorders. These include various maladaptations related to mood, behaviour, cognition, and perceptions. See glossary of psychiatry.
Initial psychiatric assessment of a person typically begins with a case history and mental status examination. Physical examinations and psychological tests may be conducted. On occasion, neuroimaging or other neurophysiological techniques are used. Mental disorders are often diagnosed in accordance with clinical concepts listed in diagnostic manuals such as the International Classification of Diseases (ICD), edited and used by the World Health Organization (WHO) and the widely used Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), published by the American Psychiatric Association (APA). The fifth edition of the DSM (DSM-5) was published in May 2013 which re-organized the larger categories of various diseases and expanded upon the previous edition to include information/insights that are consistent with current research. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry
You clearly don't understand science (or anything else, but I digress). Science must be provable and replicable. For instance, you can go anywhere in the world, in any conditions, at any time, and if you heat water to 100 degree celsius, it will boil. That is science.
What science is not is some leftist jew high on coke spouting a weird bullshit fantasy about fucking his mother. ... Since you love to repeat yourself and utter the same drivel, I will repeat again: the science of psychiatry, here in America, is widely adopted, practiced and accepted as a mature medical science, and represented by many of the governing medical bodies, noted in the Wikipedia post above. But, next you'll tell me good ol' Chris P, knows better than all the governing medical bodies, combined? Right?
I will ask again: The Same Questions:
• How is it exactly that you know SO MUCH about what the Sandy Hook family members of those 20 children that were massacred / died, did and did not suffer, at the hands of this ranting lunatic right-wing media thug?
• Are you their psychiatrist, therapist or medical doctor and can attest to their mental/physical condition?
Elvis 2008
08-12-22, 13:44
New guidelines only recommend that people who have been exposed "wear a mask for 10 days" and get tested for the virus on day 5, according to the New York Times, a radical departure from the prior draconian measures which required self-imposed quarantines for as long as 14 days.
The CDC also doesn't recommend staying at least 6 feet away from other people to reduce the risk of exposure.
According to the same report, the new guidelines also say that contact tracing "should be limited to hospitals and certain high-risk group-living situations such as nursing homes". They also "de-emphasize the use of regular testing to screen for Covid-19, except in certain high-risk settings like nursing homes and prisons. ".
And just like that, the hysteria was over, but at least we all "followed the science".
And now natural immunity counts!
"We know that Covid-19 is here to stay. High levels of population immunity due to vaccination and previous infection, and the many tools that we have available to protect people from severe illness and death, have put us in a different place."
Not to mention, they also mark a drastic 180 degree shift from how the CDC was handling Covid over the past 24 months. But suddenly, with mid-term elections just months away, the new guidelines are being praised by health officials. Imagine that.
Michael Kriger tweeted, "My take on the new CDC guidance is they know nobody is listening to them anyway and they're trying to hang on to a sliver of credibility. But it's too late for that.
I and millions of others will never forget what we saw and what was done".
End of link. It is funny how the Democratic douches here blamed Trump when Biden said that if you got vaccinated, you cannot get Covid, and then the vaccinated Biden and Fauci got Covid. Thing is Covid is still as bad right now as it has been many times in the past. The hysteria has just died down. People just tuned it out. The Ukraine war cured Covid.
And blaming Trump for Biden lying is not only fucking stupid and pathetic, it is illogical. As seen in the clip JustTK linked, health and government officials in the UK, Canada, and Australia were also spouting the same wrong big Pharma propaganda bullshit Biden was.
So here we go again. Two years after subjecting us to the bullshit that was Russiagate led by the FBI, the unelected and almost all Democrats that make up our bureaucracy singlehandedly paralyzed the country again FOR nothing with Covid.
Of course, just like Russiagate, the Democratic douches will not acknowledge the damage they have done. It will be never mind all over again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrbybKWwb7c.
I cannot wait to see someone get all those stupid six foot social distancing signs and set them on fire.
Elvis 2008
08-12-22, 15:21
Trump now is collecting tons of money in donations: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-shattering-all-fundraising-records-after-fbi-mar-lago-raid-son.
Then Trump told the DOJ to release all the documents.
"Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unamerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago, I am going a step further by encouraging the immediate release of those documents."
The FBI was looking for 'classified documents relating to nuclear weapons,' among other things, during its Monday raid at former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence, WaPo reports, citing 'people familiar with the investigation.'
So hours after Merrick Garland says that DOJ only speaks through its filings in court, they go out and leak this story to the Washington Post.
Attorney General Merrick Garland revealed during a brief Thursday speech that he personally approved the search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, and that the DOJ has asked a federal court to unseal the document.
Material about nuclear weapons is especially sensitive and usually restricted to a small number of government officials, experts said. Publicizing details about USA Weapons could provide an intelligence road map to adversaries seeking to build ways of countering those systems. And other countries might view exposing their nuclear secrets as a threat, experts said.
One former Justice Department official, who in the past oversaw investigations of leaks of classified information, said the type of top-secret information described by the people familiar with the probe would probably cause authorities to try to move as quickly as possible to recover sensitive documents that could cause grave harm to USA Security. -Washington Post.
So. We're to believe that the FBI took several boxes from Trump in June, told him to put a bigger lock, and then two months later realized 'oh -- he might have nuclear secrets' - justifying the raid.
So we assume the narrative will now be that Trump leaked, or could have leaked, nuclear secrets to Putin. Which justified "authorities to try to move as quickly as possible to recover sensitive documents" in the name of national security.
Right.
End of link. So the thing the WaPo story leaves out is Trump can declassify anything he wants, so this case has no chance in hell of winning and like I said before, the search was totally unconstitutional.
If the FBI precedes with this case, they will have to release the documents, and there is no way in hell they will. This all adds up to not a criminal charge against Trump but a criminal case whereby the FBI seized documents embarrassing to themselves.
I still cannot believe that nuclear shit. That technology is nearly 80 years old. What a fucking joke.
Trump now is collecting tons of money in donations: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-shattering-all-fundraising-records-after-fbi-mar-lago-raid-son.
Then Trump told the DOJ to release all the documents.
"Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unamerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago, I am going a step further by encouraging the immediate release of those documents."
The FBI was looking for 'classified documents relating to nuclear weapons,' among other things, during its Monday raid at former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence, WaPo reports, citing 'people familiar with the investigation.'
So hours after Merrick Garland says that DOJ only speaks through its filings in court, they go out and leak this story to the Washington Post.Trump has always had a copy of the warrant and an inventory of what was taken and there is no law forbidding him from releasing both to the media any time he wanted.
Obviously, Trump did not want to do that and kept his piehole shut about it until his idiot defenders insisted Garland release it. LOL. Leaving Trump no choice but to run around in front of the train he couldn't get his defenders to stfu about and is pretending it was his idea all along. LOL.
Of course, Trump turned it into another grift to beg for more money from his cult following suckers. He sent out an email asking for money the very next day. He's a con man grifter. That's what they do for a living. In Trump's case, he tapped into a pool of the dumbest suckers on the Planet.
How much money did you send him?
New guidelines only recommend that people who have been exposed "wear a mask for 10 days" and get tested for the virus on day 5, according to the New York Times, a radical departure from the prior draconian measures which required self-imposed quarantines for as long as 14 days.
The CDC also doesn't recommend staying at least 6 feet away from other people to reduce the risk of exposure.
According to the same report, the new guidelines also say that contact tracing "should be limited to hospitals and certain high-risk group-living situations such as nursing homes". They also "de-emphasize the use of regular testing to screen for Covid-19, except in certain high-risk settings like nursing homes and prisons. ".
And just like that, the hysteria was over, but at least we all "followed the science".
And now natural immunity counts!
"We know that Covid-19 is here to stay. High levels of population immunity due to vaccination and previous infection, and the many tools that we have available to protect people from severe illness and death, have put us in a different place.Um. Elvis didn't include a link for it but the reason the CDC can now relax its recommendations is because vaccines work and, thanks to Joe Biden making the vaccines free and easily available, a high percentage of Americans have gotten at least one shot. Consequently, the risk of getting seriously ill, requiring hospitalization or dying when or if you do test positive is low enough to relax the recommendations.
Here is a link that clarifies the reason for it that was conspicuously missing from Elvis' rant above:
New Covid-19 guidance from the CDC: What you need to know.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/12/new-covid-cdc-guidelines.html?__source=androidappshare
End of link. So the thing the WaPo story leaves out is Trump can declassify anything he wantsSimply not true.
...so this case has no chance in hell of winning and like I said before, the search was totally unconstitutional.Simply not true.
If the FBI precedes with this case, they will have to release the documents, and there is no way in hell they will. This all adds up to not a criminal charge against Trump but a criminal case whereby the FBI seized documents embarrassing to themselves.
I still cannot believe that nuclear shit. That technology is nearly 80 years old. What a fucking joke.And for the finale. Not True.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-legal-defenses-debunked/
Once again the questions arises? Does a partisan hack, with no educational credentials to speak of and with no knowledge of the law or legal procedures, know anything that experienced prosecutors and a "meticulous" judge didn't know? I think not.He knows how to read a right wingnut block and regurgitate the fallacious arguments here. That's all you are getting.
You clearly don't understand science (or anything else, but I digress). Science must be provable and replicable. For instance, you can go anywhere in the world, in any conditions, at any time, and if you heat water to 100 degree celsius, it will boil. That is science.Seriously? You're lecturing about science and you just made a childish mistake that most junior-high science students would avoid. Water boils at different temperatures depending on the atmospheric pressure.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/09/14/does-waters-boiling-point-change-with-altitude-americans-arent-sure/
Elvis 2008
08-12-22, 22:45
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Elvis 2008
08-12-22, 22:58
Um. Elvis didn't include a link for it but the reason the CDC can now relax its recommendations is because vaccines work and, thanks to Joe Biden making the vaccines free and easily available, a high percentage of Americans have gotten at least one shot.HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! That is a good one. The vaccines work. Where did you come up with that one?
The vaccines do little to nothing with the current strain and Biden and Fauci are living proof they do not work. The both got sick with Covid despite being vaccinated x 4. There have been more deaths and cases of Covid after the vaccine was developed than before.
And here is an article today about the CDC lying about the safety of the vaccine.
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/cdc-admits-it-gave-false-information-about-covid-19-vaccine-surveillance
If Traitor Trump thinks the legal entry and confiscation of items that were subpoena'd but never returned to its rightful owners (We, The People) was not done properly, there is a place for him to make a case for that; under oath in a court of law.
Making a case for it NOT under oath on the steps outside a courtroom, on FUX News, by Tweet or shouting on a street corner by him or any of his hired or free spokesmen is for cowards and liars.But naturally, GOP / QOP / Repubs, believe the rule of law doesn't apply to them.
Elvis 2008
08-12-22, 23:28
I don't think the Presidential Declassification Process amounts to some dude pointing to 25+ boxes of material and pronouncing, "I deem all that stuff 'Declassified'" just loud enough for the moving van guys to barely hear it.Nope. He can do that exact thing.
If Trump had declassified them by normal means, why didn't he just say so and prove it months ago when he defied the subpoena to return them to their rightful owner?You do not have to comply with a subpoena. They are voluntary. If Trump defies a subpoena, the proper process is go to a judge and have the subpoena enforced. A judge can say that Trump had to follow the subpoena. The problem with this is that whatever decision the judge makes, it can be overturned by the Appeals Court and after that the Supreme Court which I bet it would have been, and the FBI knew that.
I still cannot believe that nuclear shit. That technology is nearly 80 years old. What a fucking joke.You haven't any clue what is in the documents other than that some are marked within the highest levels of classification. And if any content relates to nuclear technology, you have no clue as to the age or relevance of it. As usual all we get from you is bluster and fallacies, and in this case, the assumption of "facts" not entered into evidence to support your fake conclusion. In a word you are consistently dishonest, which should come as no surprise to anyone here, thus the joke is you as well as your contrived conclusion.
https://www.txst.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/Begging-the-Question.html
Nope. He can do that exact thing.
You do not have to comply with a subpoena. They are voluntary. If Trump defies a subpoena, the proper process is go to a judge and have the subpoena enforced. A judge can say that Trump had to follow the subpoena. The problem with this is that whatever decision the judge makes, it can be overturned by the Appeals Court and after that the Supreme Court which I bet it would have been, and the FBI knew that.Oh, then that means all the documents that Trump decided were declassified that way were marked "Declassified" so there is at least a chance that anyone involved in activities regarding secrets that suddenly are no longer secrets to any of America's enemies staying as Trump's special guest would have some clue that their Deep Cover just got blown on moving day and they might be, you know, killed.
BTW, the warrant was for material that would be a crime to remove even if it had been properly declassified by an intelligent POTUS not bent on destroying America:
FBI search warrant reveals agents seized top-secret documents in raid of Trump's home.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/12/documents-taken-in-trump-raid-included-files-marked-top-secret-report-says.html?__source=androidappshare
The warrant directed agents to seize all physical documents and records constituting evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation of three laws related to handling of government documents.
The warrant indicates that statutes relating to espionage and obstruction of justice are the foundation for the search. Convictions under these statutes can bring fines or prison sentences.
One of the statutes, which relates to removing or destroying government records, includes a punishment of being disqualified from holding any office under the United States, according to the text of the law.
None of the three statutes Title 18 of the United States Code, Sections 793, 1519 and 2071 hinge on whether the documents in question were classified.
CenTexCrash
08-13-22, 03:53
I don't think the Presidential Declassification Process amounts to some dude pointing to 25+ boxes of material and pronouncing, "I deem all that stuff 'Declassified'" just loud enough for the moving van guys to barely hear it.It was mentioned in tonight's nightly news that Yes a President can declassifying documents BUT it has to be in documentation NOT verbal heresay.
The documented Presidential petition to declassify the documents seized never happened because he is blowing smoke up our asses.
You clearly don't understand science (or anything else, but I digress). Science must be provable and replicable. For instance, you can go anywhere in the world, in any conditions, at any time, and if you heat water to 100 degree celsius, it will boil. That is science.
You clearly don't understand science. If you heat water to 100 degree celsius in an environment above 1 standard atmospheric pressure (which is the case for about one quarter of the Netherlands for example) it will NOT boil. Every pressure cooker is built on that principle. That is science.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! That is a good one. The vaccines work. Where did you come up with that one?
The vaccines do little to nothing with the current strain and Biden and Fauci are living proof they do not work. The both got sick with Covid despite being vaccinated x 4. There have been more deaths and cases of Covid after the vaccine was developed than before.
And here is an article today about the CDC lying about the safety of the vaccine.
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/cdc-admits-it-gave-false-information-about-covid-19-vaccine-surveillanceThe way vaccines "work" is that they boost your body's defense in fighting the virus' ability to make you seriously ill, require hospitalization or die. They do not create a magic bubble that prevents the virus from entering your body where you would very likely test positive for it.
Really. No magic bubble. You can look it up.
See, without having been vaccinated and while he was still insisting no one need bother inventing or taking a vaccine for his Pandemic Virus because "it is disappearing. It will go away without a vaccine", Trump got so sick and near death after testing positive for it he had to be Operation Dumbo Dropped by helicopter to a hospital for emergency treatment by every known remedy except bleach and light beams in order to keep him alive so he could launch into his plan to lead a violent, cop-killing mob to attempt an overthrow of American democracy.
By stark contrast, when Biden tested positive after being vaccinated he continued working in the White House on his historic Inflation Reduction Act, his massive jobs creation and American strength and independence producing Chips and Science Act and the legislation to save American military veterans' lives after they were exposed to toxic burn pits despite the Repubs' objections to all of the above.
Huge difference.
It was mentioned in tonight's nightly news that Yes a President can declassifying documents BUT it has to be in documentation NOT verbal heresay.
The documented Presidential petition to declassify the documents seized never happened because he is blowing smoke up our asses.It's at best grossly irresponsible carrying all that stuff off with him, but that's the sort of thing narcissists do. And it was funny when Uncle Tom Tim Scott kept going on about the search saying "this is unprecedented!" Well, Tim has a non-sequitur going as something that is unprecedented isn't necessarily unfair and unreasonable, ie. His conclusion doesn't flow from the evidence. The question as to whether an action is unprecedented speaks nothing to whether or not we should do it.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Non-Sequitur
It's at best grossly irresponsible carrying all that stuff off with him, but that's the sort of thing narcissists do. And it was funny when Uncle Tom Tim Scott kept going on about the search saying "this is unprecedented!" Well, Tim has a non-sequitur going as something that is unprecedented isn't necessarily unfair and unreasonable, ie. His conclusion doesn't flow from the evidence. The question as to whether an action is unprecedented speaks nothing to whether or not we should do it.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Non-SequiturLOL. This is why Trump was the only Repub not demanding the warrant be released prior to Garland calling the Repubs' bluff by agreeing to support the release of it, why he wouldn't release his own copy himself even though he could have on day one and why he no doubt was praying everyone else on his 'side' would STFU about demanding Garland ok the release of it:
Watch the damning video here:
Former FBI Official Reads Warrant, Says 'This is Much More Serious'.
Chris Swecker, who was all over Fox TV and Fox Business questioning the search of Mar-A-Lago, is now backing off his original criticism.
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/08/former-fbi-official-reads-warrant-says
Sean Duffy, filling in for Laura Ingraham last night, asked former FBI official Chris Swecker for his view on another guest's contention that Trump did not violate any laws by taking classified documents to Mar-A-Lardo.
"Sean, these are heavyweight statutes," he argued.
"The first statute, 793, is basically the espionage statute. It talks about things that he may have done with the documents that would result in injury to this country and he did these things willfully. That is serious enough that is a ten-year penalty if hes convicted.
"Now, the third statute, which is the obstruction-related statute, carries a 20-year penalty and it alleges that he somehow impeded an ongoing matter, which could have been the grand jury investigation of what we now know is an espionage case. So this is a much more serious case than just possession of classified documents.
He said it's clear the DOJ is alleging actions by Trump, which is much more serious.
Swecker appeared on Fox on the day of the search, and at that time, called it "absolutely wrong." Now that he's seen the warrant, he's walking it back.Notice how he totally dismisses the utterly irrelevant "classified vs declassified" issue with regard to Trump's potential serious prison time criminal liability.
The "classified vs declassified" bit is quickly being revealed to be this year's "Mueller found no 'collusion'" street hustle style misdirection from Trump's consistent and ongoing anti-American transgressions.
Trump now is collecting tons of money in donations: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-shattering-all-fundraising-records-after-fbi-mar-lago-raid-son.
Then Trump told the DOJ to release all the documents.
"Not only will I not oppose the release of documents related to the unamerican, unwarranted, and unnecessary raid and break-in of my home in Palm Beach, Florida, Mar-a-Lago, I am going a step further by encouraging the immediate release of those documents."
The FBI was looking for 'classified documents relating to nuclear weapons,' among other things, during its Monday raid at former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence, WaPo reports, citing 'people familiar with the investigation.'
So hours after Merrick Garland says that DOJ only speaks through its filings in court, they go out and leak this story to the Washington Post.
Attorney General Merrick Garland revealed during a brief Thursday speech that he personally approved the search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, and that the DOJ has asked a federal court to unseal the document.
Material about nuclear weapons is especially sensitive and usually restricted to a small number of government officials, experts said. Publicizing details about USA Weapons could provide an intelligence road map to adversaries seeking to build ways of countering those systems. And other countries might view exposing their nuclear secrets as a threat, experts said.
One former Justice Department official, who in the past oversaw investigations of leaks of classified information, said the type of top-secret information described by the people familiar with the probe would probably cause authorities to try to move as quickly as possible to recover sensitive documents that could cause grave harm to USA Security. -Washington Post.
So. We're to believe that the FBI took several boxes from Trump in June, told him to put a bigger lock, and then two months later realized 'oh -- he might have nuclear secrets' - justifying the raid.
So we assume the narrative will now be that Trump leaked, or could have leaked, nuclear secrets to Putin. Which justified "authorities to try to move as quickly as possible to recover sensitive documents" in the name of national security.
Right.
End of link. So the thing the WaPo story leaves out is Trump can declassify anything he wants, so this case has no chance in hell of winning and like I said before, the search was totally unconstitutional.
If the FBI precedes with this case, they will have to release the documents, and there is no way in hell they will. This all adds up to not a criminal charge against Trump but a criminal case whereby the FBI seized documents embarrassing to themselves.
I still cannot believe that nuclear shit. That technology is nearly 80 years old. What a fucking joke.All the illegal crap the democrats and DOJ come up with just make more Americans realize that they will continue to push their communist agenda.
You do not have to comply with a subpoena. They are voluntary. If Trump defies a subpoena, the proper process is go to a judge and have the subpoena enforced. A judge can say that Trump had to follow the subpoena. The problem with this is that whatever decision the judge makes, it can be overturned by the Appeals Court and after that the Supreme Court which I bet it would have been, and the FBI knew that.Profoundly and utterly wrong. Failure to respond timely to a subpoena can result in civil and / or criminal contempt charges and fines and may compromise your ability to later contest parts of the subpoena. Voluntary?? Dear God, Elvis where do you get these ideas?
https://www.findlaw.com/litigation/going-to-court/what-is-a-subpoena.html
Now that Biden's domestic and economic accomplishments are shaping up to be among the greatest in POTUS record history, pro Repub electioneering Bothsiders like Bill Maher love to harp on how Biden didn't "stick the landing" on the Trump-negotiated surrender and withdrawal from Afghanistan. That is despite the irrefutable fact that it was the smoothest, safest, least deadly withdrawal from an occupied country by the losing side of all time.
So now we have Trump's own National Security Advisor schooling Fake Newsmax's Fake News Anchor Eric Bolling and everyone else that the 13 American soldiers killed by a single suicide bomber the then controlling Taliban allowed to pass through was "Trump's deal", not Biden's!
Oh, along with the usual reminder from those who know him best and worked with so-called potus Trump what a blithering ignorant fool and moron his is.
Excellent 'Must See" video here:
https://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2022/08/watch-john-bolton-school-newsmax-host
To break the monotony of the custard pie slinging from both sides of clowns:
'I've worked in the media alongside politicians for 25 years. Once you see how the super-rich run everything solely for their own benefit you cannot unsee it. If people understood what lies in store for us they wouldn't be on strike, there would be a revolution' - Matthew Todd.
If you are on a side that is slinging custard pies at the clown opposition, you are on the wrong side of history.
Have Repubs ever proposed, championed and passed any healthcare legislation this beneficial to the American people?
Nope. Never.
Thanks, Obama-Biden, Nancy, Harry, the Dems and everyone who voted for them:
8.2 million people may soon get a rebate from their health insurer
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/12/8point2-million-people-may-soon-get-a-rebate-from-their-health-insurer.html?__source=androidappshare
The refunds are expected to average $141 per participant in plans through the marketplace, $155 for those in plans through small employers and $78 for enrollees in large-group plans.
The aggregate total being refunded $1 billion is down from $2 billion issued in 2021 and a record $2.5 billion in 2020.
The reason these rebates go out each year is related to a requirement that insurers spend at least 80% of premiums on health-care costs and reimburse policy holders for the difference if they do not meet that threshold.
......
In the last couple of years weve seen some really large rebates twice the size of this years amount, said Cynthia Cox, a vice president at the foundation and director of its Affordable Care Act program. But Id say $1 billion is still significant.
As I recall, one of the "great" Repub contributions to the crafting of that now sacred law in the midst of all their usual griping, sniping, whining, delaying, complaining and refusing to contribute anything helpful at all was to moan and groan particularly loudly about how many pages it was. LOL.
Seriously. That is the extent of what Do Nothing Repubs can offer the American people for their paycheck.
All the illegal crap the democrats and DOJ come up w they will continue to push their communist agenda.Who is "they" and what communist agenda do you refer to? Can you give me some examples of coomunism at work in the major parties in the USA?
Now that Biden's domestic and economic accomplishments are shaping up to be among the greatest in POTUS record history, pro Repub electioneering Bothsiders like Bill Maher love to harp on how Biden didn't "stick the landing" on the Trump-negotiated surrender and withdrawal from Afghanistan. That is despite the irrefutable fact that it was the smoothest, safest, least deadly withdrawal from an occupied country by the losing side of all time.
So now we have Trump's own National Security Advisor schooling Fake Newsmax's Fake News Anchor Eric Bolling and everyone else that the 13 American soldiers killed by a single suicide bomber the then controlling Taliban allowed to pass through was "Trump's deal", not Biden's!
Oh, along with the usual reminder from those who know him best and worked with so-called potus Trump what a blithering ignorant fool and moron his is.
Excellent 'Must See" video here:
https://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2022/08/watch-john-bolton-school-newsmax-hostAccording to Labor Department data, the number of workers in the USA Has fallen 400,000 since March, a troubling sign after the number of workers approached prepandemic levels earlier this year. The total labor force is now about 600,000 smaller than it was in early 2020, right before widespread COVID-19 restrictions plunged the economy into a recession.
Biden policies are killing the economy and sending USA into a recession. Economists said that the only way Biden could lower oil prices was to drill more domestically or put the country in recession. Easy to see which way Biden chooses.
Inflation at its highest level in 41 years and Biden cure is to spend more money. The poor can't afford food or gas and he is giving them tax credits for buying an electric car. What a joke!! Border is in crises with only 20,000 border agents and he is adding 80,000 IRS agents to audit the middle class and small businesses. People are suffering and in poverty with Biden policies and democrats are to stupid to see it or they just ignore it.
Who is "they" and what communist agenda do you refer to? Can you give me some examples of coomunism at work in the major parties in the USA?Communism in democrat party is visible every day with wokeness and the killing of free speech. DNC is just another socialist or communist party. Facts are facts.
According to Labor Department data, the number of workers in the USA Has fallen 400,000 since March, a troubling sign after the number of workers approached prepandemic levels earlier this year. The total labor force is now about 600,000 smaller than it was in early 2020, right before widespread COVID-19 restrictions plunged the economy into a recession.
Biden policies are killing the economy and sending USA into a recession. Economists said that the only way Biden could lower oil prices was to drill more domestically or put the country in recession. Easy to see which way Biden chooses.
Inflation at its highest level in 41 years and Biden cure is to spend more money. The poor can't afford food or gas and he is giving them tax credits for buying an electric car. What a joke!! Border is in crises with only 20,000 border agents and he is adding 80,000 IRS agents to audit the middle class and small businesses. People are suffering and in poverty with Biden policies and democrats are to stupid to see it or they just ignore it.Do you have a link for that Mount Everest of horse manure you just posted?
For the desperate Trump-loving revisionist historians out there.
With substantiation links:
Trump to leave office with the worst jobs record since Herbert Hoover
https://fortune.com/2021/01/11/us-economy-jobs-numbers-trump-compared-past-presidents-worst-record-since-hoover/
Fact check: Chart of job growth by president shows historic unemployment under Trump
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/06/fact-check-pandemic-unaccounted-presidential-job-growth-chart/6177339002/
Trumps GDP Was the Worst Since Hoovers, But Who's Counting?
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-08-02/trump-s-gdp-record-was-the-worst-since-hoover
Trumps Final Numbers.
Statistical indicators of President Trump's four years in office.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/trumps-final-numbers/
Trump administration ended pandemic early-warning program to detect coronaviruses
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-04-02/coronavirus-trump-pandemic-program-viruses-detection
Communism in democrat party is visible every day with wokeness and the killing of free speech. DNC is just another socialist or communist party. Facts are facts.Facts are facts, indeed. So please show me any reference, from ahywhere, that demonstrates that wokeness and the killing of free speech are communist policies. Maybe by wokeness you mean freedom for the woring class and the overthrow of the bourgeois state? Yeah, on reflection I am sure that is what you meant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism#Theory
Do you have a link for that Mount Everest of horse manure you just posted?US Bureau of Labor Statistics. www.bps.gov/ces.
They post every day. Both good and bad. Don't be lazy. Look it up. Facts are facts and I know you socialists don't like the facts of Biden policies and record inflation.
Have Repubs ever proposed, championed and passed any healthcare legislation this beneficial to the American people?
Nope. Never.
Thanks, Obama-Biden, Nancy, Harry, the Dems and everyone who voted for them:
8.2 million people may soon get a rebate from their health insurer
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/12/8point2-million-people-may-soon-get-a-rebate-from-their-health-insurer.html?__source=androidappshare
As I recall, one of the "great" Repub contributions to the crafting of that now sacred law in the midst of all their usual griping, sniping, whining, delaying, complaining and refusing to contribute anything helpful at all was to moan and groan particularly loudly about how many pages it was. LOL.
Seriously. That is the extent of what Do Nothing Repubs can offer the American people for their paycheck.50 million people can't afford food today because of Biden inflation but it is great that 8.2 million people are getting a rebate. Thanks Joe, Nancy and Chuck for putting so many people into poverty.
By Jarrett Stepman.
. . Traditional Marxist ideas were adopted but changed in the 1920's by Italian communist Antonio Gramsci and others, and became the project of the Frankfurt school of critical theory. That new theory focused more on shaping culture, Lindsay said, marrying traditional Marxism with Freudian psychology and other social theories to change the way people think, , , "It has all of the conflict theory—separate the world into oppressor-versus-oppressed classes—with zero-sum conflict, no ability to agree or understand one another across those, and then takes on the postmodern understanding of truth being just politics by other means, which removes all of the brakes standing up against it," Lindsay said. Seeing the world through that lens is what constitutes wokeness.
Mike Gonzalez, a senior fellow at The Heritage Foundation and author of the new book "The Plot to Change America: How Identity Politics Is Dividing the Land of the Free," explained how these ideas entered the workplace under the guise of combating racism and why they are so toxic. "Anti-racism training is a con," Gonzalez said. "These consultants get paid exorbitant amounts of money. Often these fees come from taxpayer funds. "
Though many of the advocates of wokeness are con artists, we have to take them seriously, Gonzalez said, because there is a strong ideological component to it. "The true name of anti-racism training is consciousness-raising struggle sessions," he said. It's used to demolish the "hegemonic narrative," which in simpler terms, Gonzalez said, is simply "the American story, the American dream, the promise of liberty and prosperity that have attracted about 100 million immigrants from all over the world from 1850 to the present. " https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/wokeness-based-communism%E2%80%94heres-why-you-should-worry-166129.
In a nutshell, Wokeness replaced the workers with Identity classes. . . Same marxist analysis of oppressor vs oppressee with the solution being revolution and thought police. Result is the victim Olympics we see today competing for bigger and better victim status and government cash.
Facts are facts, indeed. So please show me any reference, from ahywhere, that demonstrates that wokeness and the killing of free speech are communist policies. Maybe by wokeness you mean freedom for the woring class and the overthrow of the bourgeois state? Yeah, on reflection I am sure that is what you meant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism#Theory
US Bureau of Labor Statistics. www.bps.gov/ces.
They post every day. Both good and bad. Don't be lazy. Look it up. Facts are facts and I know you socialists don't like the facts of Biden policies and record inflation.Your link goes nowhere, Can'tidea.
Biden still cannot reach Trump level of economy and employment
If we had data on it, it is doubtful that Trump exceeded POTUS William Henry Harrison's level of economy and employment. It's for damn sure WHH signed and passed more beneficial legislation for the country than Trump did.
Yep, with links:
With Surge in July, U.S. Recovers the Jobs Lost in the Pandemic
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/05/business/economy/july-jobs-report-gains.html
USA Job growth accelerated in July across nearly all industries, restoring nationwide employment to its prepandemic level, despite widespread expectations of a slowdown as the Federal Reserve raises interest rates to fight inflation.
Employers added 528,000 jobs on a seasonally adjusted basis, the Labor Department said on Friday, more than doubling what forecasters had projected. The unemployment rate ticked down to 3. 5 percent, equaling the figure in February 2020, which was a 50-year low.Yes, we had three months of a 3. 5% unemployment rate under Trump, two of which occurred in early 2020. No great feat for someone that inherited a "Full Employment" 4. 7% and declining unemployment rate four years earlier.
And that was before his disastrous economic decisions in 2018 and in 2020 came to fruition and produced four months of double digit unemployment rates and wiped out millions upon millions of jobs as well as destroying global supply chains, closing down worldwide economies and triggering hyper-inflation that Biden had to tackle and tame:
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
Your link goes nowhere, Can'tidea.
Biden still cannot reach Trump level of economy and employment
If we had data on it, it is doubtful that Trump exceeded POTUS William Henry Harrison's level of economy and employment. It's for damn sure WHH signed and passed more beneficial legislation for the country than Trump did.Not sure why it isn't opening but stop being lazy.
Just Google: US Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Pretty simple. USA government labor information.
Not sure why it isn't opening but stop being lazy.
Just Google: US Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Pretty simple. USA government labor information.I have provided working links for BLS to substantiate my contentions many times here.
Stop being lazy. Quote the substantiation of what you posted along with a link for it that works like I do.
Simply saying "look at BLS" is not enough. If you accept that as enough substantiation for what is asserted, great, here goes:
Look at BLS and you will see that Repubs were in the White House at the start of every Great Recession, Massive Job Losses and none of the Great Recoveries / Expansions and Job Gains of the past 100 years while Dems have been in the White House at the start of every Great Recovery / Expansion and Historic Job Gains and none of the Great Recessions. Oh, and Trump's record of results on those factors is among the worst in the past 100 years while Biden's so far is among the best.
Really. Don't be lazy. It's simple. Look it up right here:
https://www.bls.gov/
50 million people can't afford food today because of Biden inflation but it is great that 8.2 million people are getting a rebate. Thanks Joe, Nancy and Chuck for putting so many people into poverty.I thought your argument was Biden caused today's inflation by flooding the economy with too much money. But now you're saying people can't buy food with "too much money" in the economy.
Oh, I know. Just look it up at BLS, right?
Looks like Biden's "too much money" in the system didn't increase USA poverty at all. Far from it.
But Repubs'/ Conservatives' political agenda did increase USA poverty. By a lot:
The expanded child tax credit briefly slashed child poverty. Here's what else it did
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/27/1075299510/the-expanded-child-tax-credit-briefly-slashed-child-poverty-heres-what-else-it-d
Child Tax Credit Payouts Biggest in GOP States, Despite No Republicans Voting for Bill
https://www.newsweek.com/child-tax-credit-payouts-biggest-gop-states-despite-no-republicans-voting-bill-1629809
Child Poverty Soars After GOP, Manchin Block Child Tax Credit Payments
https://cardinalpine.com/story/child-poverty-soars-after-gop-manchin-block-child-tax-credit-payments/
In a nutshell, Wokeness replaced the workers with Identity classes. . . Same marxist analysis of oppressor vs oppressee with the solution being revolution and thought police. Result is the victim Olympics we see today competing for bigger and better victim status and government cash.I agree that communism a struggle for liberty. The emancipation of the working class from wage slavery and exploitation by the ruling elites. It is a struggle by the oppressed against the oppressor. But then so are all movements to recognise rights or to end exploitation. We can go back in time way before the theory of communism was invented. For example, to the struggles to end the victimisation of Christians during Roman times, to end the rule of monarchy, fuedalism, the persecution of witches, of Catholics, or Protestants, to end slavery (including child slavery) . And on and on. These movements all share the same "wokeness", I. E. An awakening, and understanding, empathy for the plight of the victimised. One can see that this has nothing at all to do with communism, and rather everything to do with the broadening of the "circle of empathy", and societal learning has taught us that the positions we took for granted before were ridiculous, inequitable, unjustified.
To pin wokeness on communism, makes as much sense to pin wokness on Kunta Kinte, or Joan of Arc.
A better analysis is that it is a struggle between short term thinkers aka (Grasshoppers) vs. Long term thinkers aka (Ants).
Why Socialism Is Bad: The Parable Of The Ant & The Grasshopper.
During difficult economic times, Socialism becomes a popular ideology due to the increased amount of economic suffering. But there are some reasons why socialism is bad highlighted below.
When times are good, it's OK if others make a lot of money and do well, so long as you are also doing well. As soon as things turn bad, it then becomes curiously not OK if someone else continues to do well if you are struggling. Why can't we be happy for someone else? Why do we have to bring others down?
My parable: The ant worked hard all summer collecting food and preparing his home for winter. The grasshopper played all summer not doing any work.
When winter came the grasshopper had no food. No worries, the grasshopper elected a socialist leader that took away 40 percent of the ants food and gave it to the grasshopper.
The next year the ant decided that the new government would take care of him the same way so he played all summer too, as did all the other hard working producing ants.
When winter came, there was no food and they all starved to death.
This scenario played out in the America's early history. The Pilgrims started as a socialistic enterprise, which resulted in famine and starvation as the Ants realized they were working to benefit Grasshoppers and did the minimum. . . https://nevadanewsandviews.com/plymouth-rock-america%E2%80%99s-first-experiment-with-socialism/.
I agree that communism a struggle for liberty. The emancipation of the working class from wage slavery and exploitation by the ruling elites. It is a struggle by the oppressed against the oppressor. But then so are all movements to recognise rights or to end exploitation. We can go back in time way before the theory of communism was invented. For example, to the struggles to end the victimisation of Christians during Roman times, to end the rule of monarchy, fuedalism, the persecution of witches, of Catholics, or Protestants, to end slavery (including child slavery) . And on and on. These movements all share the same "wokeness", I. E. An awakening, and understanding, empathy for the plight of the victimised. One can see that this has nothing at all to do with communism, and rather everything to do with the broadening of the "circle of empathy", and societal learning has taught us that the positions we took for granted before were ridiculous, inequitable, unjustified.
To pin wokeness on communism, makes as much sense to pin wokness on Kunta Kinte, or Joan of Arc.
I thought your argument was Biden caused today's inflation by flooding the economy with too much money. But now you're saying people can't buy food with "too much money" in the economy.
Oh, I know. Just look it up at BLS, right?Please explain how a family making $30,000 to $60,000 per year who can't afford to buy gas or food benefits from Biden spending hundreds of billions of dollars on 87,000 new IRS agents (KGB) offices and expenses for these agents plus hundreds of billions in subsidies for green energy plus billions of dollars for increase in EPA to fine oil and coal companies. These fines will force oil companies to raise prices and create more inflation. Please explain how it makes the millions in poverty lives better. I guess I don't understand how wasting this money makes Americans lives better.
I have provided working links for BLS to substantiate my contentions many times here.
Stop being lazy. Quote the substantiation of what you posted along with a link for it that works like I do.
Simply saying "look at BLS" is not enough. If you accept that as enough substantiation for what is asserted, great, here goes:
Look at BLS and you will see that Repubs were in the White House at the start of every Great Recession, Massive Job Losses and none of the Great Recoveries / Expansions and Job Gains of the past 100 years while Dems have been in the White House at the start of every Great Recovery / Expansion and Historic Job Gains and none of the Great Recessions. Oh, and Trump's record of results on those factors is among the worst in the past 100 years while Biden's so far is among the best.Yes. Look at the facts. According to BIS more people were working under Trump than Biden pre pandemic. Highest rate of blacks and Hispanics ever. Trump inflation near zero. Biden inflation highest in 41 years at 8.5%. Pre pandemic the economy was booming under Trump. Not so with Biden leading USA into a recession. Look back at the last 6 years. Look back at gas prices and inflation. Smart people don't need people to show them links on Biden failed policies. They can see them with their own eyes as they are living them every day. Not just with gas prices and inflation. Biden border polices are hurting millions of Americans daily. His stupidity in Afghanistan, Saudi, China and Iran have been foreign policy jokes. Comparing Trump success to Biden failures is simple if you live in USA. It is black and white. Intelligent people don't need links to see it. They live it every day.
A better analysis is that it is a struggle between short term thinkers aka (Grasshoppers) vs. Long term thinkers aka (Ant.Then along came the anteater and ate all those hardworking ants up, bcod its a dogeatdog world and only the fittest survive. This scenario plays put NOW in USA.
P.S., why don't you go live in Congo?
Yes. Look at the facts. According to BIS more people were working under Trump than Biden pre pandemic. Highest rate of blacks and Hispanics ever. Trump inflation near zero. Biden inflation highest in 41 years at 8.5%. Pre pandemic the economy was booming under Trump. Not so with Biden leading USA into a recession. Look back at the last 6 years. Look back at gas prices and inflation. Smart people don't need people to show them links on Biden failed policies. They can see them with their own eyes as they are living them every day. Not just with gas prices and inflation. Biden border polices are hurting millions of Americans daily. His stupidity in Afghanistan, Saudi, China and Iran have been foreign policy jokes. Comparing Trump success to Biden failures is simple if you live in USA. It is black and white. Intelligent people don't need links to see it. They live it every day.I always look at the facts. According to BLS Trump's $2.5+ Trillion economic "stimulus" decision in 2017 produced a million fewer jobs with it than without it and not even 1 percentage point increase in GDP growth, his disastrous economic decisions in 2018 and all through 2020 wiped out millions of jobs, skyrocketed the unemployment rate into several months of double digits and plunged us into a deep GDP Growth decline and Recession.
Facts. Easy to research. It's right there in BLS. Click on any of the working links I have provided for BLS over the years.
Please explain how a family making $30,000 to $60,000 per year who can't afford to buy gas or food benefits from Biden spending hundreds of billions of dollars on 87,000 new IRS agents (KGB) offices and expenses for these agents plus hundreds of billions in subsidies for green energy plus billions of dollars for increase in EPA to fine oil and coal companies. These fines will force oil companies to raise prices and create more inflation. Please explain how it makes the millions in poverty lives better. I guess I don't understand how wasting this money makes Americans lives better.Well, for one thing, "spending money" is what even the most self-delusional "job creator" conservative pro Repub Capitalist hides under his bed waiting for the Federal Government to do in order to pull us out of every Great Repub Recession and Massive Job Destruction that Repub policies and stewardship produce, such as the recent one Trump and his classic Repub policies and stewardship produced (sorry, Laura Ingraham, it was his classic crap Repub policies, not his constant lying and mean tweets). So, right off the bat, that is why Biden and the Dems had to do it this time. Same reason FDR had to do it. And Clinton. And Obama. Etc. Even poor people are much, much better off today for their having done that than they were in January 2021.
Waiting for brave free market Capitalists to rush in with "their" money to pull us out of these consistent Great Repub Economic Disasters is really Waiting For Godot. He ain't coming.
Beyond that it has now become abundantly obvious from all available data, record of results and easily observable reality over the past 100 years that the Dems' version of Demand-Side tax and economic philosophy and agenda is far and away superior for avoiding deep recessions and massive job losses than the Repubs' idiotic Supply-Side philosophy and agenda, both of which require tax money to be spent somewhere for the benefit of somebody.
Yeah, compared to the massive job losses in the millions, plunging GDP growth and economic disaster that follows virtually every Repub "success" in getting their idiotic Supply-Side agenda into the system, who and where the Dems then must spend tax money to pull us out of it is better for everybody in every income bracket.
Please explain how Repubs giving the already wealthy disproportionately high tax cuts will ever produce as many jobs, improve GDP growth, expand the economy and avoid deeply damaging downturns anywhere near as effectively as the Dem methods have for at least a century.
The Biden / Dem Inflation Reduction Act is another in about a half dozen Biden legislative and stewardship achievements in just 18 months that have already and will continue to recover and create the jobs with higher wages that Trump's classic Repub methods and stewardship wiped out. And that is good and far better than the Repub alternative for any income bracket you want to cite.
Trump's Pandemic-triggered supply chain destruction hyper-inflation is being tamed by Biden's stewardship and the Fed doing what every Fed must do to tame it. Thanks to Biden / Dem policies and stewardship, jobs creation is at high levels and the unemployment rate is at a 50 year low. The last time inflation was as high, thanks to Ronald Reagan's classic Repub policies and agenda no jobs were being created and the unemployment rate was skyrocketing into 10%+ every month for almost a solid year!
Eih, for one thing, "spending money" is what even the most self-delusional "job creator" conservative pro Repub Capitalist hides under his bed waiting for the Federal Government to do in order to pull us out of every Great Repub Recession and Massive Job Destruction that Repub policies and stewardship produce, such as the recent one Trump and his classic Repub policies and stewardship produced (sorry, Laura Ingraham, it was his classic crap Repub policies, not his constant lying and mean tweets). So, right off the bat, that is why Biden and the Dems had to do it this time. Same reason FDR had to do it. And Clinton. And Obama. Etc. Even poor people are much, much better off today for their having done.
Not sure what you wrote has to do with my question.
I guess since you can't explain why Biden policies are not helping Americans that you agree with me that spending billions on climate control and IRS agents will not help the American people. Thanks.
MAR-A-LAGO — Anonymous sources are alleging that among the documents confiscated from Trump's residence were the top secret plans to the White House. These plans are said to reveal the building's only weakness: a thermal exhaust port only 2 meters wide.
"It's impossible to overstate just how close we came to losing our fully armed and operational Washington the. See. Along with over 80,000 IRS Stormtroopers," said FBI Director Wray. "A direct hit from an AR-15 on the thermal exhaust port on the southeast corner of the White House roof could have set off a chain reaction that would destroy the entire District of Columbia."
Sources also claimed that since Trump's sons had extensive experience bulls-eyeing baby elephants in Africa that are no larger than 2 meters, it was only a matter of time before "insurrectionist rebel scum" made a move to destroy the entire facility.
"Just think — Washington the. See. Could have been destroyed!" said Director Wray. "The FBI just saved Washington the. See. !" Reports confirmed that FBI approval plunged another 12 points after the release of Wray's statement to the American public. . .
At publishing time, sources confirmed that Trump also had possession of the One Ring, which is now being safely returned to the nation's capital. . .
All the illegal crap the democrats and DOJ come up with just make more Americans realize that they will continue to push their communist agenda.
Wyoming Proud: Today I along with great Americans voted out a traitor of the state of Wyoming. Cheney is gone. No longer a democrat puppet and no longer shafting Wyoming. Harriet Hageman campaigned by visiting all of Wyoming. Cheney campaigned on trashing Trump. Cheney conceded after only 47% of the vote was in because she was already beat. Even with 5000 democrats changing to republicans this week to vote for her she was thrashed. Great day for the USA.
I don't know how Sleepy Cognitively Impaired President Brandon did it. Maybe the Repub / Winger Brandon-bashers here can explain it. Or give us a BLS link to research it.
But look at what he and his Dem policies went and did to the United Kingdom!
UK inflation hits new 40-year high of 10.1% as food and energy price surge continues
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/17/uk-cpi-inflation-july-2022.html?__source=androidappshare
Following a dark week in which the Washington swamp crossed the rubicon by weaponizing the security agencies against a former president and heralded the beginning of the end of the current American republic, the great people of Wyoming have responded magnificently.
Liz Cheney is a member of a leading swamp family. Her father was an architect of the catastrophic Zionist war on Iraq, which began the long-term decline of American wealth, power and prestige. She betrayed her position and voters to stab President Trump in the back.
The swamp wanted desperately for her to retain her seat. They threw everything at it: wall-to-wall fawning coverage of her across the fake news media; she was boosted and promoted on social media; her coffers were filled with the usual shady swamp money; and democrat voters were urged to switch registration (which they could do at only two weeks' notice) to vote for her in the primary.
They failed miserably.
It wasn't even close. Donald Trump's candidate Harriet Hageman received more than twice as many votes, 66% to 28%. The sheer scale of this utter rejection of not only the vile traitor Cheney but the vast swamp establishment machine behind her is quite magnificently breathtaking. For an incumbent to lose in such a landslide is unprecedented.
I salute and congratulate the great American people of Wyoming, who have done us all proud and given us hope and strength in our long war against the Washington swamp that hates and wants to destroy us. Trump 2024.
MarquisdeSade1
08-17-22, 15:06
All the illegal crap the democrats and DOJ come up with just make more Americans realize that they will continue to push their communist agenda.https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/08/merrick-garland-is-on-a-path-to-the-abyss/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=first
Instead of the endless bitching and custard pir slinging at yur opposite Prince Clowns, why don't you try to discuss smthg productive?
Why don't you discuss policy options that could improve the situation GOING FORWARD instead of the pointless bickering about who is the biggest clown of the past / present?
Both main parties throw endless money at the rich, and refuse to help the poor. Thsi causes debt and inflation. Its a classic case of "Socialism for the Rich and Capitalism for Poor".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_for_the_rich_and_capitalism_for_the_poor
What do you advocate to fix it?
Seems obvious that we need to close out this proxy war with Russia and heal our butthurt pride that the USA can do jackshlt when it confronts other powerful nations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8sPbEb4To8
Following a dark week in which the Washington swamp crossed the rubicon by weaponizing the security agencies against a former president and heralded the beginning of the end of the current American republic, the great people of Wyoming have responded magnificently.
Liz Cheney is a member of a leading swamp family. Her father was an architect of the catastrophic Zionist war on Iraq, which began the long-term decline of American wealth, power and prestige. She betrayed her position and voters to stab President Trump in the back.
The swamp wanted desperately for her to retain her seat. They threw everything at it: wall-to-wall fawning coverage of her across the fake news media; she was boosted and promoted on social media; her coffers were filled with the usual shady swamp money; and democrat voters were urged to switch registration (which they could do at only two weeks' notice) to vote for her in the primary.You are correct. And not sure you know but in Wyoming you can change your party affiliation before the primaries and several thousand democrats did that so they could vote for Cheney in the primary. Still didn't help that traitor though. Wyoming residents want their reps to represent Wyoming. Not the democrat agenda.
MAR-A-LAGO Anonymous sources are alleging that among the documents confiscated from Trump's residence were the top secret plans to the White House. These plans are said to reveal the building's only weakness: a thermal exhaust port only 2 meters wide.
"It's impossible to overstate just how close we came to losing our fully armed and operational Washington the. See. Along with over 80,000 IRS Stormtroopers," said FBI Director Wray. "A direct hit from an AR-15 on the thermal exhaust port on the southeast corner of the White House roof could have set off a chain reaction that would destroy the entire District of Columbia."
Sources also claimed that since Trump's sons had extensive experience bulls-eyeing baby elephants in Africa that are no larger than 2 meters, it was only a matter of time before "insurrectionist rebel scum" made a move to destroy the entire facility.
"Just think Washington the. See. Could have been destroyed!" said Director Wray. "The FBI just saved Washington the. See. !" Reports confirmed that FBI approval plunged another 12 points after the release of Wray's statement to the American public. . .
At publishing time, sources confirmed that Trump also had possession of the One Ring, which is now being safely returned to the nation's capital. . .When you say anonymous I realize you are referring to Hillary or the DNC just like the Russian collusion hoax.
Great day in Wyoming yesterday. We voted out a traitor of Wyoming and America.
Eih, for one thing, "spending money" is what even the most self-delusional "job creator" conservative pro Repub Capitalist hides under his bed waiting for the Federal Government to do in order to pull us out of every Great Repub Recession and Massive Job Destruction that Repub policies and stewardship produce, such as the recent one Trump and his classic Repub policies and stewardship produced (sorry, Laura Ingraham, it was his classic crap Repub policies, not his constant lying and mean tweets). So, right off the bat, that is why Biden and the Dems had to do it this time. Same reason FDR had to do it. And Clinton. And Obama. Etc. Even poor people are much, much better off today for their having done.
Not sure what you wrote has to do with my question.
I guess since you can't explain why Biden policies are not helping Americans that you agree with me that spending billions on climate control and IRS agents will not help the American people. Thanks.So you're stuck on what hiring more IRS agents will do for America? How about collect the taxes due the country from typical deadbeat tax dodging Repubs to pay for the things in Biden's historic legislation that most Americans have wanted done for decades.
Remember Do Nothing Trump's 4 consecutive years of zero results "Infrastructure Week"?
Roads, bridges, schools, mass transit, etc?
Yeah, Biden got that done. With a bipartisan vote and with a 50-50 split Senate. Amazing what a real POTUS can do in just 18 months when he isn't spending half of his "work" week cheating on his golf scorecard and the other half jerking off in delight over his latest insulting tweet.
It is shocking that someone even needs to explain what hiring more IRS agents will do to improve a country where proud Repub deadbeats and tax dodgers make up almost half of the polulation.
Now deadbeat tax dodging Repubs will have to pay for the things most Americans want done instead of sending all of their money to Trump's nonexistent Election Defense Fund and Steve Bannon's nonexistent Save The Wall Fund.
Climate? Well, Trump utterly failed to accomplish a damn thing for coal miners in four long years even though I could swear that was supposed to be some big deal election-winning difference between him and Hillary.
So how about we invest in much better renewable energy options for the future, lead the world in that inevitable industry and stop having to lick Trump's boyfriend's ass ever again?
The "worst" niggling imperfect detail among all of the historic and positive legislation Biden has gotten done in just 18 months will provide more beneficial results for more Americans and improve their lives better than the most crowed about nothingness that still wound up wiping out millions of American jobs in all of the Repub-led legislation of at least the past 50 years. Maybe 100 years.
Instead of the endless bitching and custard pir slinging at yur opposite Prince Clowns, why don't you try to discuss smthg productive?
Why don't you discuss policy options that could improve the situation GOING FORWARD instead of the pointless bickering about who is the biggest clown of the past / present?
Both main parties throw endless money at the rich, and refuse to help the poor. Thsi causes debt and inflation. Its a classic case of "Socialism for the Rich and Capitalism for Poor".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_for_the_rich_and_capitalism_for_the_poor
What do you advocate to fix it?
Seems obvious that we need to close out this proxy war with Russia and heal our butthurt pride that the USA can do jackshlt when it confronts other powerful nations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8sPbEb4To8I'm sorry, but what are you even talking about?
I mean, I think you've been saying something like, "Hey, everybody, I've got a better idea! We should start electing poor people to run the country. That would be neat"!
What world are you living in?
Is it another weird plea to help Repubs win more elections by throwing votes at goofy Third Party non entities or something?
You do realize we are in the middle of a fight to save American democracy from total destruction at the hands of a loony America-hating cult that has been the incremental Frankenstein Monster creation of the Republican Party over the past 100+ years, right?
Yeah. Ok. Sweet idea that "Third Party" thingy. But here's a Bulletin: it ain't going to happen in your or your great grand kids' lifetimes.
It will only help more Repubs get elected so they can really swing into action fulfilling their only goal and notable accomplishment over the past Century; finding exciting new ways to plunge America into a deep Recession and wipe out millions of American jobs.
LOL. Someone likened these bizarre calls for a "Third Party" at such a moment to being involved in a bloody knife fight to the death and suddenly stopping to consider, "You know, I probably should cut back on sugar and lose a couple of pounds. "
Uh. Yeah. Losing a couple of pounds is always a good idea. But for the love of god this is not the moment to stop the far more deadly serious task at hand to even think about it.
Beijing4987
08-17-22, 21:26
A truly great day will conclude with the Commander in Thief led off in chains to have his sphincter expanded by his 400 pound cell mate. He declared to the nation of Merika "what's mine is mine, what's yours is mine. Everyone would agree that nobody is above the law, even lying narcissist grifters who received more votes of any "sitting" president, despite coming short by seven million votes to claim the gold ring. Can't fool All of the People All of the time.
MarquisdeSade1
08-17-22, 22:16
A truly great day will conclude with the Commander in Thief led off in chains to have his sphincter expanded by his 400 pound cell mate. He declared to the nation of Merika "what's mine is mine, what's yours is mine. Everyone would agree that nobody is above the law, even lying narcissist grifters who received more votes of any "sitting" president, despite coming short by seven million votes to claim the gold ring. Can't fool All of the People All of the time.You can't be speaking ill of the God of All Gods.
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2022/08/17/chinas-economic-disaster-sales-plummet-real-estate-stagnates-unemployment-soars/
BTW Beijing ALLAHU AKBAR MOFO!
I mean, I think you've been saying something like, "Hey, everybody, I've got a better idea! We should start electing poor people to run the country. That would be neat"!
What world are you living in?
.Note sure what world your living and. I never even came close to saying that.
Someone likened these bizarre calls for a "Third Party" at such a moment to being involved in a bloody knife fight to the death and suddenly stopping to consider, "You know, I probably should cut back on sugar and lose a couple of pounds. "
Someone likened these ignorant Dem voters thinking they are doing good by voting in the Dem Party to keep out the Reps. As - being involved in a war against the Nazis, and choosing to side with Goebbels to fighting against Hitler.
Note sure what world your living and. I never even came close to saying that.
Someone likened these ignorant Dem voters thinking they are doing good by voting in the Dem Party to keep out the Reps. As - being involved in a war against the Nazis, and choosing to side with Goebbels to fighting against Hitler.Aren't you the one that was pitching the bit about how "both sides" are parties of rich people only catering to themselves and other rich people and how we need to change all that?
That's the world I'm asking about.
Not long ago there was an atypical Repub advantage over Dems for control of Congress in the Consensus / Poll of Polls Generic Ballot question. Got a lot of giddy MSM attention.
All gone now.
The highly regarded FiveThirtyEight polling service has shown a steady and unrelentingly growing Dem advantage on that question for weeks:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/generic-ballot/
The demonstrably Repub / Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics polling site struggled mightily to avoid updating their ongoing average, waiting in vain for another and another even more Repub / Winger-leaning Rasmussen or Trafalgar poll to come along that they could factor in to save the day and keep that weird and temporary Repub advantage going.
But even that one has finally given up the ghost and now it shows the Dems in the lead as the country's preference to control Congress as usual:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2022-generic-congressional-vote-7361.html
Meanwhile, Joe Biden as POTUS remains the most favorably rated and with the highest Job Approval rating, by far, than any other elected leader or entity in the Federal Government that can do anything to solve the historic horrific across-the-board problems for America that Trump left behind.
So you're stuck on what hiring more IRS agents will do for America? How about collect the taxes due the country from typical deadbeat tax dodging Repubs to pay for the things in Biden's historic legislation that most Americans have wanted done for decades.
Remember Do Nothing Trump's 4 consecutive years of zero results "Infrastructure Week"?
Roads, bridges, schools, mass transit, etc?
Yeah, Biden got that done. With a bipartisan vote and with a 50-50 split Senate. Amazing what a real POTUS can do in just 18 months when he isn't spending half of his "work" week cheating on his golf scorecard and the other half jerking off in delight over his latest insulting tweet.
It is shocking that someone even needs to explain what hiring more IRS agents will do to improve a country where proud Repub deadbeats and tax dodgers make up almost half of the polulation.
Now deadbeat tax dodging Repubs will have to pay for the things most Americans want done instead of sending all of their money to Trump's nonexistent Election Defense Fund and Steve Bannon's nonexistent Save The Wall Fund..Yes more Republicans will be audited than democrats for the simple reason democrats are to lazy to work. They do not run the millions of small businesses that make America great. They wait for government handouts. They are in the government's assistance programs like welfare. They will not audit democrats on unemployment insurance either.
Lead the world in renewable energy. Let the rest of the world prosper while USA goes into recession. Let the world pollute USA while our citizens starve and live in poverty. 40% of the population will not be able to afford electricity if we get to 50% green energy. There will be rolling blackouts in every state every week.
By the way. Biden has not got one bridge built or any infrastructure done at all. All the infrastructure money went for green energy and social programs. You guys just get dumber daily.
Liberal media is lining up to get the American traitor on their news. Calling her a hero for losing her job. Wyoming is celebrating today and Americans are celebrating with us.
Yeah. Ok. Sweet idea that "Third Party" thingy. But here's a Bulletin: it ain't going to happen in your or your great grand kids' lifetimes.
That's just so not true. That's what they want you to believe, so you will remain obedient to the status quo and ruling classes. You strike me as a reasonably intelligent fella, but you seem to have 2 blind spots -.
- you are tethered to the fantasy of the Dem party. The party of lies and broken promises. A party that is run by a corrupt woman who's father enriches himself on insider trading, a party that fails to deliver healthcare, a party that forces young people to cancel their dreams of a college education, a party that causes a proxy war and the greatest economic depression in living memory, a party that gives free hand outs worth billions to the wealthy corporates yet won't give cents and dems to the needy.
- you don't recognise that change is all around you and the only thing preventing change in the USA is people like you! France, Germany, Italy, Australia, have alll seen huge change in political direction in the past year or two. Even if some maybe thru coalition. Radical changes DO happen. That is indeed, the only certainty. Look at Latin America. Nearly all those countries have shifted left in the past coupla years. Even one country (USA stooge) that had never before elected a real left wing political party.
Sometimes you need to look inward, introspection, and question one's own views.
Commander in Thief.The idea that Trump gave up his #1 rated TV show and various other business deals that he was making hundreds of millions of dollars from, then spent millions of dollars of his own money on his campaign, in order to get rich as the president is so retarded it could only come from a fake media-brainwashed leftist.
Particularly when the current "president" is the head of a crime family with his idiot drug-addled, hooker- and relative-fucking son as his bagman, as proven by idiot son's laptop.
Aren't you the one that was pitching the bit about how "both sides" are parties of rich people only catering to themselves and other rich people and how we need to change all that?
.Correct. We need to take out the corruption from politics, remove the buying of policy, elect people that represent the people. Thats a far cry from "We should start electing poor people to run the country. ".
The idea that Trump gave up his #1 rated TV show and various other business deals that he was making hundreds of millions of dollars from, then spent millions of dollars of his own money on his campaign, in order to get rich as the president is so retarded it could only come from a fake media-brainwashed leftist.Then why is he fund-raising all the time for his "legal defense"? I thought he said he had "billions" ? And he can't pay his own attorneys? He has to beg his (not very bright) followers to help him defend himself?
You might want to reconsider which side is "brain-washed".
DENVER, CO — Local man Walter Bishop is reportedly excited to find out whether he will soon be raided by the FBI or gunned down by the IRS. The longtime conservative is reportedly ecstatic to show people how right he was about the slippery slope he's been warning everyone about.
"This is terrific!" he told next-door neighbor Phil Astrototop. "I wonder which it will be — a raid or an epic showdown with IRS agents. ".
Phil, a moderate Democrat disapproved of Bishop's oddly gleeful attitude. "Nothing's going to happen, man. It's not like you're breaking the law. Don't do anything wrong and the government won't bother you. ".
Bishop laughed. "That's what you think! I voted for Trump. I guarantee they're coming for me. You'll see, I'm right!
Friends and family members of Walter Bishop are concerned that his optimistic anticipation of a pessimistic event may be a mental disorder.
Quote We're really worried about him, unquote said Bishop's wife. "Also he's kind of scaring me. I don't want to be raided by the FBI! They'll see my unmentionables!
At publishing time, the home of Phil Astrototop was raided by a team of federal agents working in conjunction with the IRS but, because Astrototop is a known Democrat, Walter Bishop was unable to gloat that he had been quote right all along unquote. . .
When you say anonymous I realize you are referring to Hillary or the DNC just like the Russian collusion hoax.
Beijing4987
08-18-22, 20:57
Need I remind the participants here that history will provide the final judgement, not trolls spewing vitriol because their hobby chasing hookers has been constrained. Alan Weiselberg is copping a plea to 15 felonies for a five month sentence. He will trade 14.5 years of freedom from incarceration for testimony against the criminal organization he worked for. This goes into the history book, not alternative facts.
MarquisdeSade1
08-18-22, 21:07
Need I remind the participants here that history will provide the final judgement, not trolls spewing vitriol because their hobby chasing hookers has been constrained. Alan Weiselberg is copping a plea to 15 felonies for a five month sentence. He will trade 14.5 years of freedom from incarceration for testimony against the criminal organization he worked for. This goes into the history book, not alternative facts.When really really really cheap "labor" just isn't cheap enough.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/united-nations-china-uyghurs/2022/08/17/id/1083560/
Indict Xi with crimes against humanity already!!
Radical changes DO happen. You stumbled accidentally upon a single nugget of truth among your customary acres of rubbish. There is in fact a radical change happening in the US right now, but it is happening within the existing Republican Party.
The RINOs, cuckservatives and traitors such as the vile generational swamp creature Liz Cheney are being removed (by 66% to 28% despite fawning fake media and social media coverage and mass democrat voting for her) and replaced by Americans who intend to secure our constitutional rights, borders, population integrity, heritage, and put America First.
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WeiselbergWhat an apt name.
Liberal media is lining up to get the American traitor on their news. Calling her a hero for losing her job. Wyoming is celebrating today and Americans are celebrating with us.San Diego is celebrating with you. Hopefully we never have another Cheney in politics.
Following a dark week in which the Washington swamp crossed the rubicon by weaponizing the security agencies against a former president and heralded the beginning of the end of the current American republic, the great people of Wyoming have responded magnificently.
Liz Cheney is a member of a leading swamp family. Her father was an architect of the catastrophic Zionist war on Iraq, which began the long-term decline of American wealth, power and prestige. She betrayed her position and voters to stab President Trump in the back.
The swamp wanted desperately for her to retain her seat. They threw everything at it: wall-to-wall fawning coverage of her across the fake news media; she was boosted and promoted on social media; her coffers were filled with the usual shady swamp money; and democrat voters were urged to switch registration (which they could do at only two weeks' notice) to vote for her in the primary.
They failed miserably.
It wasn't even close. Donald Trump's candidate Harriet Hageman received more than twice as many votes, 66% to 28%. The sheer scale of this utter rejection of not only the vile traitor Cheney but the vast swamp establishment machine behind her is quite magnificently breathtaking. For an incumbent to lose in such a landslide is unprecedented.
I salute and congratulate the great American people of Wyoming, who have done us all proud and given us hope and strength in our long war against the Washington swamp that hates and wants to destroy us. Trump 2024.Great post. Very true.
He will trade 14.5 years of freedom from incarceration for testimony against the criminal organization he worked for. This goes into the history book, not alternative facts.Translation: he will make up a bunch of BS for his fellow shysters like the weasel (berg) that he is.
Time to take the power away from these leftist shysters and activist judges.
Yes more Republicans will be audited than democrats for the simple reason democrats are to lazy to work. They do not run the millions of small businesses that make America great. They wait for government handouts. They are in the government's assistance programs like welfare. They will not audit democrats on unemployment insurance either.
Lead the world in renewable energy. Let the rest of the world prosper while USA goes into recession. Let the world pollute USA while our citizens starve and live in poverty. 40% of the population will not be able to afford electricity if we get to 50% green energy. There will be rolling blackouts in every state every week.
By the way. Biden has not got one bridge built or any infrastructure done at all. All the infrastructure money went for green energy and social programs. You guys just get dumber daily.Maybe you're right that America is just to weak and fragile to survive this cruel cruel world and ought to simply lay down and die a peaceful death.
You should not even bother to vote from this day forward.
Liberal media is lining up to get the American traitor on their news. Calling her a hero for losing her job. Wyoming is celebrating today and Americans are celebrating with us.In terms of voting for crap Repub results whenever possible the only difference between Cheney and her fellow Repub / Winger successor is Hageman's hair is shorter.
That's just so not true. That's what they want you to believe, so you will remain obedient to the status quo and ruling classes. You strike me as a reasonably intelligent fella, but you seem to have 2 blind spots -.
- you are tethered to the fantasy of the Dem party. The party of lies and broken promises. A party that is run by a corrupt woman who's father enriches himself on insider trading, a party that fails to deliver healthcare, a party that forces young people to cancel their dreams of a college education, a party that causes a proxy war and the greatest economic depression in living memory, a party that gives free hand outs worth billions to the wealthy corporates yet won't give cents and dems to the needy.
- you don't recognize that change is all around you and the only thing preventing change in the USA is people like you! France, Germany, Italy, Australia, have all seen huge change in political direction in the past year or two. Even if some maybe thru coalition. Radical changes DO happen. That is indeed, the only certainty. Look at Latin America. Nearly all those countries have shifted left in the past coupla years. Even one country (USA stooge) that had never before elected a real left wing political party.
Sometimes you need to look inward, introspection, and question one's own views.Yes, that's the fantasy world you live in that I was asking about. Now we know.
Correct. We need to take out the corruption from politics, remove the buying of policy, elect people that represent the people. Thats a far cry from "We should start electing poor people to run the country. ".That is exactly the same campaign pitch every Repub and Dem candidate runs on with Big Bucks backing and Big Bucks for them in the offing even if they lose with the only way to get the Big Bucks out of it is if the Big Bucks winning candidates vote it out when they take office.
Ok, we'll wait for your bake sales and tin cup donations Third Party poor folks to win the presidency, the clear majority in the House and 60+ seats in the Senate to change all that.
In the meantime, I will keep voting for the only Big Bucks Rich People side that produces NO Great Recessions, NO massive job losses, NO deep Mega Bear Market Crashes and somehow manages to get historic Infrastructure legislation, improved healthcare reform and virtually all of the net job creation gains accomplished of the past 100+ years, the Evil Big Bucks Rich People Dems.
The idea that Trump gave up his #1 rated TV show and various other business deals that he was making hundreds of millions of dollars from, then spent millions of dollars of his own money on his campaign, in order to get rich as the president is so retarded it could only come from a fake media-brainwashed leftist.
Particularly when the current "president" is the head of a crime family with his idiot drug-addled, hooker- and relative-fucking son as his bagman, as proven by idiot son's laptop.Donald Trump Said About Lying: 'You Just Tell Them and They Believe. They Just Do,' Claims Billy Bush
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-said-about-lying-you-just-tell-them-and-they-believe-they-just-do-850363
President Donald Trump lied about The Apprentice's television ratings because he knew he could, according to former Access Hollywood host Billy Bush. Bush famously discussed grabbing women by the "pussy" with Trump, in a video that leaked toward the end of the 2016 presidential election.
Bush told Real Time host Bill Maher Friday night that Trump has no qualms about misrepresenting the truth, especially when it comes to TV ratings. Bush recalled confronting Trump at one point about his numbers, USA Today reported.
"He'd been saying it's No. 1 forever and finally, I'd had enough," Bush told Maher. "I told him, 'Wait a minute, you haven't been No. 1 for like five years not in any category, not in any demo.' He goes, 'Did you see last Thursday? Last Thursday, 18-49, the last five minutes.' "
Bush added that "Later, when the cameras were off, he said, 'Billy, look, you just tell them and they believe it. That's it: you just tell them and they believe. They just do.'"
Maher sighed, "And that's where we are. He can do that to America now. It's what he does all the time: he just says it and they believe it."
DENVER, CO Local man Walter Bishop is reportedly excited to find out whether he will soon be raided by the FBI or gunned down by the IRS. The longtime conservative is reportedly ecstatic to show people how right he was about the slippery slope he's been warning everyone about.
"This is terrific!" he told next-door neighbor Phil Astrototop. "I wonder which it will be a raid or an epic showdown with IRS agents. ".
Phil, a moderate Democrat disapproved of Bishop's oddly gleeful attitude. "Nothing's going to happen, man. It's not like you're breaking the law. Don't do anything wrong and the government won't bother you. ".
Bishop laughed. "That's what you think! I voted for Trump. I guarantee they're coming for me. You'll see, I'm right!
Friends and family members of Walter Bishop are concerned that his optimistic anticipation of a pessimistic event may be a mental disorder.
Quote We're really worried about him, unquote said Bishop's wife. "Also he's kind of scaring me. I don't want to be raided by the FBI! They'll see my unmentionables!
At publishing time, the home of Phil Astrototop was raided by a team of federal agents working in conjunction with the IRS but, because Astrototop is a known Democrat, Walter Bishop was unable to gloat that he had been quote right all along unquote. . .Biden will no doubt get an A+ rating from the NRA when all 87,000 of those mostly secretaries and file clerks hired by the IRS due to his Inflation Reduction Act are equipped with a loaded AR15 as we were assured they would be by FUX News and Repubs in Congress.
In terms of voting for crap Repub results whenever possible the only difference between Cheney and her fellow Repub / Winger successor is Hageman's hair is shorter.Well, Cheney has something else Hageman doesn't, called balls.
When Liz said she would've easily kept her job by lying for Trump, that's not an exaggeration. It is worth something that she decided not to, IMHO.
On a slightly different note -- Moscow Mitch has finally admitted today that the Senate might not go the way of the wingers' wet, slimy dreams. Although his reasoning is that Senate needs more "quality candidates. " Right. As quality as the GOP greatest: Graham, Rand, Crus, Hawley.
Those new sellouts have no class today. Pity.
And, yes, he does indeed mean the Republican Party is by far a more dangerous threat to America and democracy than ISIS and al-Qaeda ever were, "not even close. ".
GOP Is Most 'Dangerous' Political Force in World, Michael Hayden Says.
8/18/2022
https://www.newsweek.com/gop-most-dangerous-political-force-world-michael-hayden-says-1734884
The former director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) believes that the modern-day Republican Party is the most "dangerous" political force he has ever observed.
Retired four-star General Michael Hayden, who was nominated in 2006 by former GOP President George W. Bush to be the CIA director, posted his concern about Republicans to Twitter on Wednesday. He re-tweeted a post from Edward Luce, an associate editor of Financial Times.
"I've covered extremism and violent ideologies around the world over my career. Have never come across a political force more nihilistic, dangerous & contemptible than today's Republicans. Nothing close," Luce wrote in an August 12 tweet.
Hayden on Wednesday shared the journalist's post, writing: "I agree. And I was the CIA Director."
This election year, typically pro Repub Mainstream Media would like you to receive the news of Biden and the Dems passing more and more historically positive legislation destined to be revered aspects of America that make it Truly Great as a "missed opportunity" by Democrats In Disarray, "unable to deliver" good things for the country.
And, ya' know, by golly if you really think about it (MSM would love for you to conclude), this is probably just another VICTORY for those lovable WINNERS, the Republican Party. LOL:
The New York Times absurdly pessimistic framing of the Inflation Reduction Act.
The Times frames final passage of a major legislative package as some kind of loss for the Biden administration. Even the Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal was more upbeat.
https://www.mediamatters.org/new-york-times/new-york-times-absurdly-pessimistic-framing-inflation-reduction-act
I know the Repubs / Wingers here are working hard on their posts about how Joe Biden and the Dems did this to the United Kingdom and Germany.
With plenty of substantiation links included too as usual:
Record jump in German producer prices adds to gloomy outlook
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/19/record-jump-in-german-producer-prices-adds-to-gloomy-outlook.html?__source=androidappshare
Germanys economy stagnated in the second quarter as soaring energy prices, the pandemic and supply disruptions cause a gloomy outlook for Europes largest economy, according to its finance ministry.
Energy prices as a whole were up 105% compared with July 2021, due mainly to higher prices for natural gas and electricity, the office said.Man, those Repub / Winger explanations for how Joe and the Dems made that happen must be amazing since they have been working on them for more than a day or two since I posted the one about the United Kingdom.
In the meantime, I will keep voting for the only Big Bucks Rich People side that produces NO Great Recessions, NO massive job losses, NO deep Mega Bear Market Crashes and somehow manages to get historic Infrastructure legislation, improved healthcare reform and virtually all of the net job creation gains accomplished of the past 100+ years, the Evil Big Bucks Rich People Dems.You sound like the guy who continues in his dead end job with a shlt boss bcos he can't believe that he could get a better job elsewhere.
Side Q. You don't even accept that Biden has brought about this huge economic world recession by lead the developed world in to a proxy war with Russia? Unbelievabkle dissonance.
DramaFree11
08-19-22, 16:55
I know the Repubs / Wingers here are working hard on their posts about how Joe Biden and the Dems did this to the United Kingdom and Germany.
With plenty of substantiation links included too as usual:
Record jump in German producer prices adds to gloomy outlook
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/19/record-jump-in-german-producer-prices-adds-to-gloomy-outlook.html?__source=androidappshare
Man, those Repub / Winger explanations for how Joe and the Dems made that happen must be amazing since they have been working on them for more than a day or two since I posted the one about the United Kingdom.Nope, we can not blame Biden for Europe's complete disaster. This is what happens when you lockdown for Covid and stop producing gas. What did you guys think would happen? Then to make matters worse, they are backing Ukraine and still refusing to produce oil.
MarquisdeSade1
08-19-22, 17:06
You stumbled accidentally upon a single nugget of truth among your customary acres of rubbish. There is in fact a radical change happening in the US right now, but it is happening within the existing Republican Party.
The RINOs, cuckservatives and traitors such as the vile generational swamp creature Liz Cheney are being removed (by 66% to 28% despite fawning fake media and social media coverage and mass democrat voting for her) and replaced by Americans who intend to secure our constitutional rights, borders, population integrity, heritage, and put America First.https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/08/18/breitbart-enters-film-distribution-business-with-my-son-hunter-directed-by-robert-davi-starring-laurence-fox-and-gina-carano/
You sound like the guy who continues in his dead end job with a shlt boss bcos he can't believe that he could get a better job elsewhere.
Side Q. You don't even accept that Biden has brought about this huge economic world recession by lead the developed world in to a proxy war with Russia? Unbelievable dissonance.And you have not provided one iota of evidence or proof that Biden had anything whatsoever to do with leading any proxy war anywhere.
You mean by strengthening NATO and the Western Alliances in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and providing the same sidelines support for an invaded ally the USA has been providing for more than a century?
Ridiculous.
Well, Cheney has something else Hageman doesn't, called balls.
When Liz said she would've easily kept her job by lying for Trump, that's not an exaggeration. It is worth something that she decided not to, IMHO.
On a slightly different note -- Moscow Mitch has finally admitted today that the Senate might not go the way of the wingers' wet, slimy dreams. Although his reasoning is that Senate needs more "quality candidates. " Right. As quality as the GOP greatest: Graham, Rand, Crus, Hawley.
Those new sellouts have no class today. Pity.LOL. In saying that the Senate race is different from the House because "quality candidates" have a lot to do with it, Moscow Mitch essentially acknowledged that even a total crap quality Repub candidate can win a heavily gerrymandered House district race where the Repubs chose the voters rather than the voters choosing the candidate.
Cheney and that other Repub, Kinzinger, apparently predicted the political winds wrong on their Party, way, way underestimating how loony and filled with hate for America the people who constituted their base and voted for them previously really were.
I mean, if their current claimed state of mind is real, neither of them can possibly feel good about having been loved and supported by those exact same America-haters once upon a time.
This election year, typically pro Repub Mainstream Media would like you to receive the news of Biden and the Dems passing more and more historically positive legislation destined to be revered aspects of America that make it Truly Great as a "missed opportunity" by Democrats In Disarray, "unable to deliver" good things for the country.
And, ya' know, by golly if you really think about it (MSM would love for you to conclude), this is probably just another VICTORY for those lovable WINNERS, the Republican Party. LOL:
The New York Times absurdly pessimistic framing of the Inflation Reduction Act.
The Times frames final passage of a major legislative package as some kind of loss for the Biden administration. Even the Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal was more upbeat.
https://www.mediamatters.org/new-york-times/new-york-times-absurdly-pessimistic-framing-inflation-reduction-actMedia Matters? David Brock is the Rush Limbaugh of the left, pushing the same ridiculous conspiracy theories you are. Fact is the left didn't get all they wanted out of the bill as it had to be moderated to draw in Manchin and Sinema. Thus the NYT from their left wing prospective was true to character to complain, and wasn't secretly plotting to help Republicans. LOL But rather than address their concerns and that of other left leaning outlets, you just dive on the conspiracy theory and start tooting your horn. LOL.
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/11/1116229743/inflation-reduction-act-questions-answered
And the Journal is center-right like the London Times, and though both are owned by old man Murdock, they aren't in the same vein as the tabloid Fox News.
Nope, we can not blame Biden for Europe's complete disaster. This is what happens when you lockdown for Covid and stop producing gas. What did you guys think would happen? Then to make matters worse, they are backing Ukraine and still refusing to produce oil.When "you" lock down for Covid and stop producing gas?
Trump was in charge when that happened.
In fact, Trump was more responsible for ensuring that it would have to happen until enough time and cases were studied from that novel coronavirus to know what the hell was needed or not needed to tackle it han any other world leader including China's Xi.
Trump was arguably more responsible for having to take those drastic measures to deal with it than any other individual on the planet.
Beijing4987
08-19-22, 22:03
Al will enter Rikers Island prison. How long would he have survived if he flipped on the crime boss and spawn directly instead of dishing the dirt on the crime organization instead? No need for any "translation". Remember the pedophile Mr. Epstein, who took many secrets to his grave?
Media Matters? David Brock is the Rush Limbaugh of the left, pushing the same ridiculous conspiracy theories you are. Fact is the left didn't get all they wanted out of the bill as it had to be moderated to draw in Manchin and Sinema. Thus the NYT from their left wing prospective was true to character to complain, and wasn't secretly plotting to help Republicans. LOL But rather than address their concerns and that of other left leaning outlets, you just dive on the conspiracy theory and start tooting your horn. LOL.
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/11/1116229743/inflation-reduction-act-questions-answered
And the Journal is center-right like the London Times, and though both are owned by old man Murdock, they aren't in the same vein as the tabloid Fox News.Media Matters is simply the site that could provide the images and quotes from those typically pro Repub Mainstream Media sources without you having to deal with subscription requests popping up and blocking access to them.
Uh. Those were not images and quotes from Media Matters itself or contributors to Media Matters.
Confused?
MarquisdeSade1
08-20-22, 03:13
Al will enter Rikers Island prison. How long would he have survived if he flipped on the crime boss and spawn directly instead of dishing the dirt on the crime organization instead? No need for any "translation". Remember the pedophile Mr. Epstein, who took many secrets to his grave?https://www.newsmax.com/scottrasmussen/china-united-states/2022/08/19/id/1083839/
I bet if you did this poll in CCPland the result would be 100%.
DramaFree11
08-20-22, 03:38
When "you" lock down for Covid and stop producing gas?
Trump was in charge when that happened.
In fact, Trump was more responsible for ensuring that it would have to happen until enough time and cases were studied from that novel coronavirus to know what the hell was needed or not needed to tackle it han any other world leader including China's Xi.
Trump was arguably more responsible for having to take those drastic measures to deal with it than any other individual on the planet.Trump was against the lock downs. You know this, but why stop lying now. If the Dem. Would have had there wishes and we would have went into major lockdowns like Europe and South America, the financial problems we are experiencing now would even worse. You should be thanking Trump for how he handled Covid, not blaming him, but that does not fit in your narrative.
When "you" lock down for Covid and stop producing gas?
Trump was in charge when that happened.
In fact, Trump was more responsible for ensuring that it would have to happen until enough time and cases were studied from that novel coronavirus to know what the hell was needed or not needed to tackle it han any other world leader including China's Xi.
Trump was arguably more responsible for having to take those drastic measures to deal with it than any other individual on the planet.You don't have a clue. Biden presidency has been a complete catastrophe for Americans and his foreign policy gaffs are even worse. You ignore the worst president in history since Carter and Obama and you keep bringing up lies about Trump. Trump looks like the best president in history if you compare him to the inept Biden. Cheney campaigned on bad mouthing Trump and she got trounced because smart voters know better. Everyone in USA was better off under Trump than they are now under Biden. They is the fact and over 70% of Americans agree. You obviously are one of the socialist green idiots that don't have a clue.
And you have not provided one iota of evidence or proof that Biden had anything whatsoever to do with leading any proxy war anywhere.
You mean by strengthening NATO and the Western Alliances in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine and providing the same sidelines support for an invaded ally the USA has been providing for more than a century?
Ridiculous.Proof was established in first month of Biden presidency. Biden weakness in stands with Russia, Iran, China and Afghanistan showed the world that USA was weak. Putin did exactly what he did the last time USA had a weak president. He invaded Ukraine. He knew that Biden would do absolutely nothing and he was right. The proof is in the history books. 2 week presidents and 2 wars. Yes both these week presidents are to blame. History shows they did not invade Ukraine when Trump was president. No denying it. You may not like this history but it actually happened.
That is exactly the same campaign pitch every Repub and Dem candidate runs on with Big Bucks backing and Big Bucks for them in the offing even if they lose with the only way to get the Big Bucks out of it is if the Big Bucks winning candidates vote it out when they take office.
Ok, we'll wait for your bake sales and tin cup donations Third Party poor folks to win the presidency, the clear majority in the House and 60+ seats in the Senate to change all that.
In the meantime, I will keep voting for the only Big Bucks Rich People side that produces NO Great Recessions, NO massive job losses, NO deep Mega Bear Market Crashes and somehow manages to get historic Infrastructure legislation, improved healthcare reform and virtually all of the net job creation gains accomplished of the past 100+ years, the Evil Big Bucks Rich People Dems.You said it. I guess you will be boring republican this year with the Biden recession.
In terms of voting for crap Repub results whenever possible the only difference between Cheney and her fellow Repub / Winger successor is Hageman's hair is shorter.Cheney is a traitor. Her successor will represent the People who voted for her.
Then why is he fund-raising all the time for his "legal defense"? I thought he said he had "billions" ? And he can't pay his own attorneys? He has to beg his (not very bright) followers to help him defend himself?
You might want to reconsider which side is "brain-washed".If you engage brain, you will realize that you just boosted my case. Trump is clearly a lot less rich now than he was in 2015, when he had the #1 TV show in the country and was the darling of the media. Which rather puts the lie to the retarded leftist / fake news claim that he only became president "to get rich."
In fact, it is Nancy "Insider Trading" Pelosi, the Clintons with their "charitable foundation" that only spent 4% of its donation on charity, and Joe "10% for the Big Guy" Biden who got into politics to enrich themselves. Trump sacrificed a huge amount to help to take America back from these crooks and the swamp they work for. He is an American hero. Trump 2024.
Well, Cheney has something else Hageman doesn't, called balls.
I can imagine the tears streaming down your screen as you wrote that. 66% to 29%! For an incumbent! Including a ton of democrats who falsely registered GOP to vote for her! Literally unprecedented. LOL.
Trump 2024.
Remember the pedophile Mr. Epstein, who took many secrets to his grave?Yes, such as what Bill Clinton was doing on the 26 occasions (that we know of) that he flew on Epstein's private jet, the Lolita Express.
And you have not provided one iota of evidence or proof that Biden had anything whatsoever to do with leading any proxy war anywhere.
You mean by strengthening NATO and the Western Alliances in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
USA has been fighting Russia / USSR since the end of WW2. Even after Glasnost, USA refused to accept Russia under normal international relations. It made promises to Russia not to expand NATO towards Russia in 1994, yet it has done so ever since. USA sponsored a Ukrainian coup in 2014 (under Dem, Obama) to remove a Russian-sympathetic president, replace it with US-puppets, and continues to support it ever since. It has been at "war" with Russia since Russia emerged as victor from WW2. Proof is all around you, in countless wars and military actions to destroy Russian / USSR-friendly governments, even left wing governments.
Adam Schiff blurted out the truth on camera: "United States aids Ukraine and her people so that we can fight Russia over there and we don't have to fight Russia here".
Biden passed the biggest defense bill in history so that it can continue to profit around the world from war – selling arms, stealing oil and bank reserves, protecting strategic puppet governments. War is business, and that's what the USA continues to wage.
If you engage brain, you will realize that you just boosted my case. Trump is clearly a lot less rich now than he was in 2015, when he had the #1 TV show in the country and was the darling of the media. Which rather puts the lie to the retarded leftist / fake news claim that he only became president "to get rich."
In fact, it is Nancy "Insider Trading" Pelosi, the Clintons with their "charitable foundation" that only spent 4% of its donation on charity, and Joe "10% for the Big Guy" Biden who got into politics to enrich themselves. Trump sacrificed a huge amount to help to take America back from these crooks and the swamp they work for. He is an American hero. Trump 2024.Agreed. No one could have said it better.
Beijing4987
08-20-22, 21:15
OMG. Who could have said it better. "Round up the usual suspects. This thread needs to have "stupid shit"added to its title.
PseudoGene
08-20-22, 21:33
OMG. Who could have said it better. "Round up the usual suspects. This thread needs to have "stupid shit"added to its title.How can you take a side and justify the activity of right or left? Both sides have lots of shit.
Washington DC — According to sources close to the Biden Administration, President Biden responded to seeing Trump's jump in poll numbers by ordering the FBI to raid his house too.
These orders come at a time when Biden's approval rating has reached record lows, due to 20 consecutive months of unfortunate disasters that allegedly had nothing to do with Biden or his policies, but were the fault of everyone else, especially Trump.
"Hey, FBI guys, I could use some of those higher poll numbers," wrote President Biden on a piece of paper before shoving it under the basement door in hopes that one of his handlers on the outside would deliver it to an FBI guy. "P. S. , I could also use another diaper change right about now. ".
At publishing time, Biden had instructed — via letters shoved under the door — that groundskeepers plant a few palm trees in the Rose Garden and that everyone call The White House by its new name, Mar-a-Lago, DC. . .
You sound like the guy who continues in his dead end job with a shlt boss bcos he can't believe that he could get a better job elsewhere.
Side Q. You don't even accept that Biden has brought about this huge economic world recession by lead the developed world in to a proxy war with Russia? Unbelievabkle dissonance.Every now and then you read something so inconceivably idiotic. . .
Yes, it's America that's totally responsible for Russia's unprovoked and criminal war against Ukraine.
Yes, whenever Russia (and probably China by extension) throws a temper-tantrum, we must duck down and play dead.
How does America lead a "proxy war" against Russia? There are no troops and no NATO involvement in Ukraine. If anything, we are too cautious, too slow, too conservative in supplying Ukrainians who are dying in droves to protect Europe from hordes of mass murderers armed to the teeth.
It's the America First "patriots" like you and Drama Queen who 85 years ago enabled Hitler to massacre tens of millions in Europe by not letting Roosevelt act until it was almost too late. It took Germany to declare a war on the US to temporarily disband that evil cult of American isolationism, and yet it rears its ugly head over and over again. It doesn't matter to them that they've ALWAYS been on the wrong side of history.
Damn, what a gullible breed! (q).
Or worse.
USA has been fighting Russia / USSR since the end of WW2. Even after Glasnost, USA refused to accept Russia under normal international relations. It made promises to Russia not to expand NATO towards Russia in 1994, yet it has done so ever since. USA sponsored a Ukrainian coup in 2014 (under Dem, Obama) to remove a Russian-sympathetic president, replace it with US-puppets, and continues to support it ever since. This is all true. The CIA literally overthrew a democratically-elected pro-Russian president in a violent coup in 2014 (a genuine armed insurrection, not just some unarmed people walking through open doors and taking selfies then going home) and ever since then the CIA Washington swamp puppet government has been oppressing Russian-speakers in the Ukraine by banning them from using their language, shutting down their TV stations and political parties, and shelling their towns.
But even that would not have driven Russia to invade. It was when the puppet government announced it was going to join NATO, which would have meant US military bases and nukes on the Russian border just a few miles from Moscow, that Russia was finally provoked a step too far. Now the Washington swamp is forcing Ukraine to fight to the last Ukrainian (except for Ukrainian Jews, who were all airlifted out to Israel by their fellow Jew Zelensky right at the start of the war) in order to keep their massive taxpayer-funded military-industrial complex grift going.
But the swamp has completely fucked up. Russia is winning the war and Putin's approval ratings have gone up, as has the value of the ruble. Russia has strengthened its alliances with China, India, Iran and others, and they are now working on a plan to supplant the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency. Russia, Iran and China have realized that they already have everything they need (food, fertilizer, raw materials, energy, manufacturing) and most of what America sells them (Netflix, Facebook, McDonalds) is shit that they are better off without. Most of Asia and Africa is turning toward them too, because they are sick of America trying to force globohomo feminism and faggotry on them and their kids.
And meanwhile we are $30 trillion in debt and growing.
What the swamp has done in the last 21 years could be called "How to screw up a seemingly impregnable position as world's top country". Things are going to get a lot worse in America in the years to come. But in the long long run, once we clear out the trash and rebuild, it will get better.
If you engage brain, you will realize that you just boosted my case. Trump is clearly a lot less rich now than he was in 2015, when he had the #1 TV show in the country and was the darling of the media.Engage my brain? You mean drink the Trump Kool-Aid like you've been doing?? He didn't have the #1 TV show in the country. He claimed he had the top show on NBC. You can't even get your Trump BS straight.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/apr/08/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-his-show-no-1-nbc-he-right/
Elvis 2008
08-21-22, 00:21
4th Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things.
[Deleted by Admin]. Yes, you may have to respond to a subpoena, but you do not have to comply with it. Viliany and Eih do not care about civil rights because they do not live in the USA. They cheer on the government as they shred the Constitution.
A FBI subpoena in Trump's case would be a request for documents. Trump then would have the choice to hand over said documents or go to court and tell the court why he does not need to release them. If Trump goes to court, the FBI has to give a reason they need the records. Furthermore, whatever decision the magistrate or judge makes, that decision can be revoked by a higher court immediately.
The ONLY legitimate reason IMO to get a warrant versus use a subpoena is if there was evidence the records would be destroyed, but the FBI waited days after the warrant was signed to execute it and in doing so, they stepped on their dick.
The last sentence of the 4th amendment has come with the understanding that a warrant has to be limited in time, place, and scope, and this warrant was not so it is illegal. The whole purpose with the search restrictions was that you cannot go into the home of someone you do not like and look for something illegal. This warrant was for every document Trump looked at as president.
Now the question is what other parts were illegal. What was the probable cause? That is confidential. And the affidavit? Yeah, that is sealed too. And the warrant was signed by a magistrate who was anything but neutral. So everything was sleazy.
What you are hoping if you are the FBI is you can find something that Trump did that is so bad that all this illegal and inappropriate actions can be justified.
The FBI brought in 30 agents with machine guns to get pieces of paper. Maybe you can come up with an explanation of why the FBI did what it did, but I cannot, and neither can Matt Taibbi:
The timeline of leaked explanations of the raid is mind-boggling. Anonymous officials started by telling us the case was linked to Trump having "delayed returning 15 boxes of material requested by. The National Archives," then it was "classified documents relating to nuclear weapons," then it was fear Trump could reveal "sources and methods," then it was possible Espionage Act violations. By Saturday, former "national security prosecutor" Barb McQuade went on MSNBC to explain the "brilliant tactical move" of using the Espionage Act, since it doesn't "require the documents to be classified" (we'the been told all week this was about classified material). The next day, CBS published news of a joint FBI / DHS bulletin warning of "armed rebellion," "civil war," and a "dirty bomb attack," and the day after that, we were told FBI "filter agents" did, then didn't seize, then did again seize Donald Trump's passports, but returned them in the end.
One by one, these explanations have been shot down. Trump can declassify whatever he wants. The nuclear explanation makes no sense. The Feds waited nearly two years to retract that information? Why? And Trump refused to give those documents you wanted back so you had to come in with 30 armed agents? Trump denied holding back anything.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is this one, A report in Newsweek citing USA Intelligence officials has claimed that one of the main purposes of the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago was to find documents that President Trump had collected and intended to use as proof to put to bed once and for all the Russian collusion conspiracy theory.
Bill Maher was trying to say that Republicans saying defunding the FBI is hypocritical because they are the law and order party. I would say to Bill, "Where have you been? The FBI has broken the law time and again. " It is so obvious that The FBI leadership is a de facto wing of the Democratic party.
Then he said Merrick Garland and Christopher Wray were good guys who would only do this if necessary. Yes, the same Merrick Garland who called Virginia parents terrorists, and the same Chrisopher Wray who let Russiagate go forward and had the FBI sit on Hunter Biden's laptop during Ukrainegate.
I would not be shocked to see Democrats be befuddled at that last comment. Yes, the FBI had Hunter Biden's laptop the whole time Ukrainegate was going on. The guy who turned in the laptop to the FBI said that he thought he was doing the right thing in bringing an obvious criminal to justice has since said the FBI's role with keeping the laptop was protecting the Bidens.
Back to Taibbi: Moreover, they'll have guaranteed that the next Republican who wins the White House, if such a thing is allowed again, will tug at every rein of power to prevent ever having to leave and risk this kind of prosecution.
If such a thing is allowed to happen again? WTF?
What I have noticed is the Democrats start a brand new kind of abuse, and the Republicans strike back 10 x as hard. And so before you start thinking the FBI is only going after Trump and not you, what makes you think that it will stay that way? What makes you think a partisan Republican FBI or LE will not trash the 4th amendment like they did with Trump and come after you as Democrats? Wouldn't you prefer that lawyers hash things out in a courtroom versus via armed officers with machine guns?
And the reason Trump's poll numbers were up must be confusing Dems, so let me help you out there. I am not voting for Trump in 2024 but voting for the Constitution and against a hyperpartisan FBI that I think only Trump might be able to fix. You Dems should be more upset about the FBI trashing the Constitution than getting Trump, but I know you are not, and that is why I HAVE to vote for him.
Elvis 2008
08-21-22, 00:55
You love government. In fact, if I were to ask a Democrat how the CDC performed with Covid, I would imagine they gave them an A. Thing is I trashed the government so badly people started calling me Elvirus. I was particularly incensed at Colombia implementing a worthless travel ban harming the people of Colombia for no scientifically proven reason.
The CDC did not beat Covid. They surrendered to it. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/covid-here-stay-cdc-concedes-after-two-years-orwellian-hysteria.
"Covid Is Here to Stay," CDC Concedes After Two Years Of Orwellian Hysteria.
So yeah, all the masking, hand sanitizers, social distancing, lockdowns, and vaccines did not do shit, but if you love government, you just blow this off, "Hey, they were trying to help. " Is that an excuse for being this wrong? And with me, was I trying to hurt people by saying this the last 2 years?
And here is another one: It's Over: CDC Says People Exposed To COVID No Longer Need To Quarantine. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/cdc-says-people-exposed-covid-no-longer-need-quarantine-deemphasizes-regular-testing-except.
For those of you who do not know, I said the way Covid should be handled is you avoid sick people. I was told by some fool that would not cut it. Two years later, the CDC is saying the same thing.
And the CDC was not honest about how safe the vaccine was. https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/cdc-admits-it-gave-false-information-about-covid-19-vaccine-surveillance.
CDC Admits It Gave False Information About COVID-19 Vaccine Surveillance.
And another one: Federal Government To Stop Paying For COVID Shots, Tests, & Treatments.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/federal-government-stop-paying-covid-shots-tests-and-treatments
Pfizer and Moderna racked up $79 billion in Covid vaccine sales in 2021 alone, the Journal reports, with sales juiced by public health officials' false claims of efficacy, coupled with coercive vaccination requirements imposed by governments, schools and employers.
And who could forget this?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/09/covid-vaccines-pfizer-ceo-says-people-who-spread-misinformation-on-shots-are-criminals.html
Pfizer CEO says people who spread misinformation on Covid vaccines are 'criminals'.
And now there is this:
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/pfizer-ceo-tests-positive-covid-19-mild-symptoms-88403251
Pfizer CEO tests positive for COVID-19.
Sigh, here we go again with another blowhard who knows all about Covid like Fauci and Biden and he gets sick with Covid. Yeesh.
If Fauci, Biden, and this Pfizer CEO were allowed to be sued for what they said about Covid, they would be sued into the next century but because they are protected, you dumb Dems think they are fine. You Dems cannot wait to throw away our freedoms as long as it shows you care, I. E. Virtue signaling. If you are a Dem, you do not care about freedom. You care if the government "likes" you.
Not only has the USA government tossed our freedoms, they made it okay for foreign countries to trash theirs. I flew back from Mexico City last week and everyone on the plane had a mask. I have flown Spirit and United back and the first thing we do is get in the plane and take off the mask but not on Aeromexico. I guess the Mexican government and Aeromexico has not gotten the memo that the war against Covid has been lost / surrendered.
When the government took us into lockdowns for political purposes, they did not allow the immune systems of children to develop, and there have been explosions of a different type of virus, RSV, to cause pandemics, so the notion that lockdowns did no harm, and they clearly did with this and mental health, was complete bullshit.
The government's war on Covid gets a F from me. In the end, they did no good whatsoever and caused enormous harm. It sickens me that those who performed so poorly are not being held liable for being so wrong.
Every now and then you read something so inconceivably idiotic. . .
Yes, it's America that's totally responsible for Russia's unprovoked and criminal war against Ukraine.
How does America lead a "proxy war" against Russia? There are no troops and no NATO involvement in Ukraine.
It's the America First "patriots" like you and Drama Queen who 85 years ago enabled Hitler to massacre tens of millions in Europe by not letting Roosevelt act until it was almost too late..Speaking of idiotic, you said 3 of the most bizarre things her that just show how ignorant / unaware you are.
1. So you are defneding the strawman position of a unprovoked Russian war. If it was unprovoked, we would not be debating this at all!
2. Look up the definition of "proxy war" please so we can have a sensible conversation. A war instigated by a major power in which it does not itself become involved.
3. I am not "America First" or a "patriot". I am not even from the Americas. I am for equal rights and rules for all.
4th Amendment: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things.
Yes, you may have to respond to a subpoena, but you do not have to comply with it. Viliany and Eih do not care about civil rights because they do not live in the USA. They cheer on the government as they shred the Constitution.
A FBI subpoena in Trump's case would be a request for documents. Trump then would have the choice to hand over said documents or go to court and tell the court why he does not need to release them. If Trump goes to court, the FBI has to give a reason they need the records. Furthermore, whatever decision the magistrate or judge makes, that decision can be revoked by a higher court immediately.
The ONLY legitimate reason IMO to get a warrant versus use a subpoena is if there was evidence the records would be destroyed, but the FBI waited days after the warrant was signed to execute it and in doing so, they stepped on their dick.
The last sentence of the 4th amendment has come with the understanding that a warrant has to be limited in time, place, and scope, and this warrant was not so it is illegal. The whole purpose with the search restrictions was that you cannot go into the home of someone you do not like and look for something illegal. This warrant was for every document Trump looked at as president.
Now the question is what other parts were illegal. What was the probable cause? That is confidential. And the affidavit? Yeah, that is sealed too. And the warrant was signed by a magistrate who was anything but neutral. So everything was sleazy.
What you are hoping if you are the FBI is you can find something that Trump did that is so bad that all this illegal and inappropriate actions can be justified.
The FBI brought in 30 agents with machine guns to get pieces of paper. Maybe you can come up with an explanation of why the FBI did what it did, but I cannot, and neither can Matt Taibbi:
The timeline of leaked explanations of the raid is mind-boggling. Anonymous officials started by telling us the case was linked to Trump having "delayed returning 15 boxes of material requested by. The National Archives," then it was "classified documents relating to nuclear weapons," then it was fear Trump could reveal "sources and methods," then it was possible Espionage Act violations. By Saturday, former "national security prosecutor" Barb McQuade went on MSNBC to explain the "brilliant tactical move" of using the Espionage Act, since it doesn't "require the documents to be classified" (we'the been told all week this was about classified material). The next day, CBS published news of a joint FBI / DHS bulletin warning of "armed rebellion," "civil war," and a "dirty bomb attack," and the day after that, we were told FBI "filter agents" did, then didn't seize, then did again seize Donald Trump's passports, but returned them in the end.
One by one, these explanations have been shot down. Trump can declassify whatever he wants. The nuclear explanation makes no sense. The Feds waited nearly two years to retract that information? Why? And Trump refused to give those documents you wanted back so you had to come in with 30 armed agents? Trump denied holding back anything.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is this one, A report in Newsweek citing USA Intelligence officials has claimed that one of the main purposes of the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago was to find documents that President Trump had collected and intended to use as proof to put to bed once and for all the Russian collusion conspiracy theory.
Bill Maher was trying to say that Republicans saying defunding the FBI is hypocritical because they are the law and order party. I would say to Bill, "Where have you been? The FBI has broken the law time and again. " It is so obvious that The FBI leadership is a de facto wing of the Democratic party.
Then he said Merrick Garland and Christopher Wray were good guys who would only do this if necessary. Yes, the same Merrick Garland who called Virginia parents terrorists, and the same Chrisopher Wray who let Russiagate go forward and had the FBI sit on Hunter Biden's laptop during Ukrainegate.
I would not be shocked to see Democrats be befuddled at that last comment. Yes, the FBI had Hunter Biden's laptop the whole time Ukrainegate was going on. The guy who turned in the laptop to the FBI said that he thought he was doing the right thing in bringing an obvious criminal to justice has since said the FBI's role with keeping the laptop was protecting the Bidens.
Back to Taibbi: Moreover, they'll have guaranteed that the next Republican who wins the White House, if such a thing is allowed again, will tug at every rein of power to prevent ever having to leave and risk this kind of prosecution.
If such a thing is allowed to happen again? WTF?
What I have noticed is the Democrats start a brand new kind of abuse, and the Republicans strike back 10 x as hard. And so before you start thinking the FBI is only going after Trump and not you, what makes you think that it will stay that way? What makes you think a partisan Republican FBI or LE will not trash the 4th amendment like they did with Trump and come after you as Democrats? Wouldn't you prefer that lawyers hash things out in a courtroom versus via armed officers with machine guns?
And the reason Trump's poll numbers were up must be confusing Dems, so let me help you out there. I am not voting for Trump in 2024 but voting for the Constitution and against a hyperpartisan FBI that I think only Trump might be able to fix. You Dems should be more upset about the FBI trashing the Constitution than getting Trump, but I know you are not, and that is why I HAVE to vote for him.Excellent post.
The people who are doing this are bolsheviks. Literally, if you look at their ethno-religious background, it is the same as most of the bolsheviks who caused such untold horrors and bloodshed in Russia 100 years ago. Trotsky, Sverdlov, Zinoviev, Kamenev, Uritsky, Sokolnikov, Kaganovich and others then. Garland, Schiff, Schumer, Nadler, Zucker, Zuckerberg, and many more in the swamp now.
100 years ago they used their "law enforcement", known initially as the Cheka then the NKVD (the FBI of its day) to terrorize, raid and drag away their political opponents in the middle of the night.
And not only the high ranking opponents. Anyone from any group they took a dislike to. They had a vast network of prison camps known as The Gulag Archipelago. Read or listen to the Solzhenitsyn book, it's an eye-opener. As Donald Trump said, "they're not coming after me. They're coming after you. I'm just in the way. ".
If they manage to destroy Trump and other serious high-level opponents, there will be nobody to stop them forcing through more rigged elections, the destruction of the Second Amendment, followed by the destruction of groups that they hate, such as straight white men. Any pushback will be dealt with by their "law enforcement", as it was 100 years ago in Russia.
Soviet citizens had all kinds of "rights" on paper, but everyone knew they were just goyim to do as they were told or face the gulag. That is the situation these latter-day bolsheviks want in America.
Yes, such as what Bill Clinton was doing on the 26 occasions (that we know of) that he flew on Epstein's private jet, the Lolita Express.Grossly exaggerated number of trips that Clinton took. BTW how many did the Donald take?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-bill-clinton-prince-andrew-multiple-trips-jeffrey-epstein-plane-ghislaine-maxwell-1661513
Trump was against the lock downs. You know this, but why stop lying now. If the Dem. Would have had there wishes and we would have went into major lockdowns like Europe and South America, the financial problems we are experiencing now would even worse. You should be thanking Trump for how he handled Covid, not blaming him, but that does not fit in your narrative.If Trump was against lockdowns, economic disasters, the death of a million Americans (and still counting), millions upon millions of USA jobs wiped out, the collapse of global supply chains, the inevitable hyper-inflation that follows, higher gas and food prices, etc, then he wouldn't have defunded the CDC and pulled all of our Pandemic Prevention and Response teams out of China in 2018 against all expert warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous to National Security and the economy and then compounded that catastrophic economic and National Security decision all through critical year 2020 by lying to the world precisely the way a world leader would want to lie in order to turn a likely manageable local virus spread into the Trump's Pandemic it became and still is.
But he did:
Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv/exclusive-u-s-slashed-cdc-staff-inside-china-prior-to-coronavirus-outbreak-idUSKBN21C3N5
Trump Administration Abuses Thwart US Pandemic Response
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/trump-administration-abuses-thwart-us-pandemic-response
He Could Have Seen What Was Coming: Behind Trumps Failure on the Virus
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-response.html
Trump Baselessly Claims Coronavirus Will Go Away Without Vaccine
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/trump-baselessly-claims-coronavirus-will-go-away-without-vaccine/
Trump, downplaying virus, has mocked wearing masks for months.
He wore one as he headed to the hospital Friday afternoon.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-downplaying-virus-mocked-wearing-masks-months/story?id=73392694
See, lazy Do Nothings like Trump join up with a political party, the Repubs, that think it's cool to hate government and refuse to fund it and use it for the good of its citizens. Which is fine if your "government" is a monarchy or a dictatorship.
But seeing how the USA government is of, by and for the American people, going to war against the American government, as the Repub Party has done since at least Reagan, is going to war against the American people.
Which explains the consistent crap results FOR the American people that we invariably get from Repub economic and National Security decisions and stewardship.
The consistent crap results isn't about bad luck, weird economic cycles or conspiracies against them. It is what the Repub Party sees as their entire goal and mission, the only thing they know how to do and want to do. Because they hate this government of, by and for the American people.
So far, every former Trump Admin offical agrees and none has said otherwise; moron Trump's claim is ludicrous, fictional, BS nonsense.
Oh, and there is no "magic wand" option:
CNN Exclusive: 'Ludicrous.' 'Ridiculous.' 'A complete fiction.': Former Trump officials say his claim of 'standing order' to declassify is nonsense
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/18/politics/trump-claim-standing-order-declassify-nonsense-patently-false-former-officials/index.html
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But 18 former top Trump administration officials tell CNN they never heard any such order issued during their time working for Trump, and that they believe the claim to be patently false.
Several officials laughed at the notion. One senior administration official called it "bullsh*t." Two of Trump's former chiefs of staff went on the record to knock down the claim.
"Nothing approaching an order that foolish was ever given," said John Kelly, who served as Trump's chief of staff for 17 months from 2017 to 2019. "And I can't imagine anyone that worked at the White House after me that would have simply shrugged their shoulders and allowed that order to go forward without dying in the ditch trying to stop it."
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'It can't just be an idea in his head'
Even if Trump had sought to broadly declassify documents, there is a specific process that the president is supposed to follow, the officials said. Declassification must be memorialized and includes careful reviews and notifying agencies such as the CIA, NSA, Department of Energy, State Department and Defense Department.
....
And a source familiar with White House records and declassification said Trump's claim was "laughable" and that if any such order existed, it was "Trump's best kept secret."
Multiple sources said they believed that Trump's claim the documents were declassified was nothing more than a transparent attempt to try to defend himself for taking the documents to Mar-a-Lago.
"There is a process to declassify, the president can't just wave a magic wand," a former senior Trump White House official said.
DramaFree11
08-21-22, 15:26
If Trump was against lockdowns, economic disasters, the death of a million Americans (and still counting), millions upon millions of USA jobs wiped out, the collapse of global supply chains, the inevitable hyper-inflation that follows, higher gas and food prices, etc, then he wouldn't have defunded the CDC and pulled all of our Pandemic Prevention and Response teams out of China in 2018 against all expert warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous to National Security and the economy and then compounded that catastrophic economic and National Security decision all through critical year 2020 by lying to the world precisely the way a world leader would want to lie in order to turn a likely manageable local virus spread into the Trump's Pandemic it became and still is..You are crazy and delusional. If you want to call Trump, an "Ass Hole or Bad Guy, I agree, but we would be in far worse economic shape, if it was not for how Trump handled Covid. You can not blame him for the supply chain issues on Trump, he was against lockdowns, this is what caused the issues. Your liberal buddies and governments wanted lockdowns, now the world is suffering the ramifications of shutdowns. They do not work.
MarquisdeSade1
08-21-22, 16:55
I can imagine the tears streaming down your screen as you wrote that. 66% to 29%! For an incumbent! Including a ton of democrats who falsely registered GOP to vote for her! Literally unprecedented. LOL.
Trump 2024.https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/us-mexico-border/2022/08/21/id/1083970/
https://www.newsmax.com/billdonohue/common-culture/2022/08/19/id/1083801/
Elvis 2008
08-21-22, 16:56
So far, every former Trump Admin offical agrees and none has said otherwise; moron Trump's claim is ludicrous, fictional, BS nonsense.
Oh, and there is no "magic wand" option:Oh, CNN says that? Okay, who does have the right to declassify if not the president? The FBI decides what should be classified and what is not?
This is another ludicrous trial balloon for probable cause the FBI is floating and it is going over like a fart in church. Trump can declassify whatever he wants, and the Supreme Court will eventually back him on this.
And the CIA just declassified a million pages of documents in 2014. Among those "top secret" documents were UFO sightings, stories about area 51, and a recipe for invisible ink that was used in World War one.
The one thing I can guarantee you of is whatever "classified" documents the FBI took, they are going to sit on this it for decades. Regardless, this is a sematic issue that should have been handled by lawyers in a court room and not with federal agents wielding machine guns.
Like Hilary Clinton, here is an FBI guy destroying records, https://katv.com/news/local/a-former-agent-of-fbi-pleads-guilty-to-charges-connected-to-jon-woods-trial-ex-arkansas-lawmaker-now-in-prison-says-he-and-other-inmates-wants-to-build-trumps-wall-ecclesia-college-springdale-robert-cessario.
One wonders how many of these documents get lost. Hell, Melania's closet was full of top secret stuff.
But you do not care. Agents knocking on your door with machine guns is not going to happen to you Eih because your ass lives in Thailand. The Federal government can trash the Constitution all day long as long as you get your free health care and social security checks.
Elvis 2008
08-21-22, 17:10
If Trump was against lockdowns, economic disasters, the death of a million Americans (and still counting), millions upon millions of USA jobs wiped out, the collapse of global supply chains, the inevitable hyper-inflation that follows, higher gas and food prices, etc, then he wouldn't have defunded the CDC and pulled all of our Pandemic Prevention and Response teams out of China in 2018 against all expert warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous to National Security and the economy and then compounded that catastrophic economic and National Security decision all through critical year 2020 by lying to the world precisely the way a world leader would want to lie in order to turn a likely manageable local virus spread into the Trump's Pandemic it became and still is.Eih, the only people who died of Covid were the ones early on mistakenly put on ventilators. Covid did not kill millions of people. Covid mostly hit diabetics, the obese, and elderly hard. Take away the comorbidities and for most people Covid was just a form of nasty flu. It was beyond stupid to shut down the world economy because of it.
Like I said, I still see Covid and still see people really sick with it, but it no longer is in the news. Gee, why is that? Could it be that the media and scientific establishment got together and hyped the shit out of the virus to destroy the economy and get Trump out of office? The tech companies censored anyone who did not March in line with the CDC and WHO and did you notice the CDC just said they were wrong with much of what they did? It turns out so much of that disinformation, like the ineffectiveness and side effects of the vaccine, was right all along.
Biden, Fauci, and the Pfizer CEO have come down with Covid lately so kindly shut up now. You are not going to convince me or anyone else that Covid was not ridiculously overblown by the "experts."
Grossly exaggerated number of trips that Clinton took.https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known
"Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender's infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the "Lolita Express" -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights".
At least 26 trips. And why do you think he ditched his Secret Service detail?
ChuchoLoco
08-21-22, 22:15
Oh,
Like Hilary Clinton, here is an FBI guy destroying records, https://katv.com/news/local/a-former-agent-of-fbi-pleads-guilty-to-charges-connected-to-jon-woods-trial-ex-arkansas-lawmaker-now-in-prison-says-he-and-other-inmates-wants-to-build-trumps-wall-ecclesia-college-springdale-robert-cessario.
One wonders how many of these documents get lost. Hell, Melania's closet was full of top secret stuff.
But you do not care. Agents knocking on your door with machine guns is not going to happen to you Eih because your ass lives in Thailand. The Federal government can trash the Constitution all day long as long as you get your free health care and social security checks.Shredding docs is a shared pastime among both parties and FBI, CIA. Remember Ollie North who had his secretary shredding everything but the wallpaper? FBI and CIA shredded so many JFK Assassination files to cover their asses. Good one on Milania! Her closet is full of top secrets and we would all like to see her wearing them, Victoria Secrets! Shredding is a way of life in Washington and I suggest anyone among us do the same if ever needed or burn them it's better.
You are crazy and delusional. If you want to call Trump, an "Ass Hole or Bad Guy, I agree, but we would be in far worse economic shape, if it was not for how Trump handled Covid. You can not blame him for the supply chain issues on Trump, he was against lockdowns, this is what caused the issues. Your liberal buddies and governments wanted lockdowns, now the world is suffering the ramifications of shutdowns. They do not work.We would be in "far worse economic shape" if Trump had not defunded and pulled out all of the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams from China in 2018 in defiance of all expert warnings for him not to do something so stupid and dangerous to the economy, lives and national security?
Please elaborate on how that could possibly be so.
Eih, the only people who died of Covid were the ones early on mistakenly put on ventilators. Covid did not kill millions of people. Covid mostly hit diabetics, the obese, and elderly hard. Take away the comorbidities and for most people Covid was just a form of nasty flu. It was beyond stupid to shut down the world economy because of it.
Like I said, I still see Covid and still see people really sick with it, but it no longer is in the news. Gee, why is that? Could it be that the media and scientific establishment got together and hyped the shit out of the virus to destroy the economy and get Trump out of office? The tech companies censored anyone who did not March in line with the CDC and WHO and did you notice the CDC just said they were wrong with much of what they did? It turns out so much of that disinformation, like the ineffectiveness and side effects of the vaccine, was right all along.You're still stuck on the idea that vaccines are supposed to miraculously encase you in a magic bubble that prevents a virus from entering Biden's body, Fauci's body, mine or yours at which point you could still test positive for it rather than what they actually do to prevent serious illness or death when the virus does enter the body as expected it will?
Wow.
Then there is no use in my trying to educate you any further about it.
But for everyone else; the vaccines have worked as predicted to reduce the instance of serious illness or death for those infected with Trump's Pandemic virus everywhere on the planet.
Trump did not "have it under control", it did not "disappear" and "go away without a vaccine" as Trump knowingly lied about it for most of a critical year when his self-serving lies were busy creating Trump's Pandemic, crashing worldwide economies, mass murdering millions, wiping out millions of jobs and global supply chains and damn near died from it himself pre vaccine if not for extraordinary immediate emergency treatment and measures taken that few outside of presidents have at hand and on call 24/7 for just such an occasion.
MarquisdeSade1
08-22-22, 01:47
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/21/poll-j-d-vance-dominates-tim-ryan-ohio/
Engage my brain? You mean drink the Trump Kool-Aid like you've been doing?? He didn't have the #1 TV show in the country. He claimed he had the top show on NBC. You can't even get your Trump BS straight.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/apr/08/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-his-show-no-1-nbc-he-right/Look at yourself splitting hairs, like those fake news "fact-checkers" who say "Ohhhhh, Trump said the rate increased by 12% but it was actually 12.1% therefore he was lying!" while completely ignoring Fauci's "I did not fund gain of function research in Wuhan at 3.00 on a Tuesday."
The point that you are pathetically and transparently fleeing from is that he had a massively successful TV show and other businesses earning him hundreds of millions; he was the darling of the media (watch the same shriveled on The View who now hysterically attack him fawning and gushing over him when he used to go on.
He gave all of that up, sacrificed billions of dollars and the fawning fake smiles of the fake media, because he saw how badly America was going wrong and how badly the heritage American people were being screwed. Very few people in his position would do that. The vast majority would and do enjoy their wealth and adulation, and ignore the decline.
Donald Trump is an American hero. Trump 2024.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known
"Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender's infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the "Lolita Express" -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights".
At least 26 trips. And why do you think he ditched his Secret Service detail?Mr. Objective. Fox News reported that Clinton took 26 trips on Epstein's plane. But that was reported in May 2016. Right?
But the flight logs in their entirety were entered into evidence in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. This information was made public and reported in December, 2021.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-bill-clinton-prince-andrew-multiple-trips-jeffrey-epstein-plane-ghislaine-maxwell-1661513
I wonder which would be more accurate??
Oh and you forgot to mention that your hero the Donald took 7 flights on the Lolita Express himself?
Perhaps the point you were trying to make was that Bill Clinton is a sleaze-ball and Donald Trump is just a little less of a sleaze-ball?
Look at yourself splitting hairs, like those fake news "fact-checkers" who say "Ohhhhh, Trump said the rate increased by 12% but it was actually 12.1% therefore he was lying!" while completely ignoring Fauci's "I did not fund gain of function research in Wuhan at 3.00 on a Tuesday."
The point that you are pathetically and transparently fleeing from is that he had a massively successful TV show and other businesses earning him hundreds of millions; he was the darling of the media (watch the same shriveled on The View who now hysterically attack him fawning and gushing over him when he used to go on.
He gave all of that up, sacrificed billions of dollars and the fawning fake smiles of the fake media, because he saw how badly America was going wrong and how badly the heritage American people were being screwed. Very few people in his position would do that. The vast majority would and do enjoy their wealth and adulation, and ignore the decline.
Donald Trump is an American hero. Trump 2024.Is that what you call splitting hairs? I would say that Trump exaggerated how successful his program was. He was number 1 that week on ONE network. You made it into the number 1 show on all of television. That isn't splitting hairs that is correcting a massive fabrication.
And I know you hate to be confronted with facts but which of his other businesses were earning him 100's of millions? Was it Trump Steaks? (bankruptcy), Was it Trump Taj Mahal? (bankruptcy 1991) was it Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino? (bankruptcy 1992), was it Plaza Hotel? (bankruptcy 1992), was it Trump Castle Hotel and Casino? (bankruptcy 1992), was it Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts? (bankruptcy 2004), was it Trump Entertainment Resorts? (bankruptcy 2009) was it Trump University? (closed after settling lawsuits 2016) was it Trump Airlines? (defaulted on loans and creditors reposessed the assets 1990), was it Trump Vodka? Trump Beverage? Trump the Game?
I'm getting tired of listing them all. You can read about them yourself.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/donald-trumps-business-failures-were-very-real
Mr. Objective. Fox News reported that Clinton took 26 trips on Epstein's plane. But that was reported in May 2016. Right?
But the flight logs in their entirety were entered into evidence in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. This information was made public and reported in December, 2021.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-bill-clinton-prince-andrew-multiple-trips-jeffrey-epstein-plane-ghislaine-maxwell-1661513
I wonder which would be more accurate??
Oh and you forgot to mention that your hero the Donald took 7 flights on the Lolita Express himself?
Perhaps the point you were trying to make was that Bill Clinton is a sleaze-ball and Donald Trump is just a little less of a sleaze-ball?So you withdrew your earlier false claim that 26 was a "grossly exaggerated number" of Clinton Lolita Express trips. That's good, you're making progress.
Now, to examine Trump's flights: "In a flight log from June 1994, Trump's name appears alongside "Marla"—presumably his then-wife Marla Maples—his then-baby daughter Tiffany, and a nanny. ".
"Trump's son Eric is listed on a flight in August 1995 from Palm Beach to New York. Eric Trump would have been 11 years old at the time of that flight. ".
Ah. So Trump took a few flights with his wife and children. This was also in the mid-90's, when less was known about Epstein's predilections. When they became clear, Trump banned him from Mar a Lago.
The Clinton flights (26 at least) were several years later, when the secret was out. Clinton certainly wasn't travelling with Crooked Hillary and the White House Dog. In fact, on several occasions, he wasn't even travelling with his Secret Service detail, whom he jettisoned against protocol.
Why would he do that?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/21/poll-j-d-vance-dominates-tim-ryan-ohio/JD Vance is a good man and will be a decent senator. Unless there is, ahem, "mail-in voting".
MarquisdeSade1
08-23-22, 00:48
Impeach Joe and Garland and lock up Hunter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg-Z2aqRKRo
MarquisdeSade1
08-23-22, 03:50
You are crazy and delusional. If you want to call Trump, an "Ass Hole or Bad Guy, I agree, but we would be in far worse economic shape, if it was not for how Trump handled Covid. You can not blame him for the supply chain issues on Trump, he was against lockdowns, this is what caused the issues. Your liberal buddies and governments wanted lockdowns, now the world is suffering the ramifications of shutdowns. They do not work.Not just crazy AF but crazy AF and delusional LMAO.
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Is that what you call splitting hairs? I would say that Trump exaggerated how successful his program was. He was number 1 that week...Yes it is splitting hairs because the point is that show was hugely successful. It ran on primetime for 14 seasons, and that doesn't happen if people aren't watching. It was also a broader cultural phenomenon with memes and catchphrases ("You're fired! Being known and used by people who didn't even watch the show.
And the success of the show was down to Trump; when they tried bringing it back with Schwarzenegger it was a total flop and got cancelled straight away.
As for the bankruptcies, you clearly don't understand business, probably because you're a communist. When you run a business empire as vast as Trump's for as long as he did, you use all the laws you can in the best way to benefit you. Everyone at that level does the same.
I don't even see the point of your post. Are you somehow trying to claim that Trump wasn't incredibly wealthy before he ran for president?[Deleted by Admin]
You are crazy and delusional. If you want to call Trump, an "Ass Hole or Bad Guy, I agree, but we would be in far worse economic shape, if it was not for how Trump handled Covid. You can not blame him for the supply chain issues on Trump, he was against lockdowns, this is what caused the issues. Your liberal buddies and governments wanted lockdowns, now the world is suffering the ramifications of shutdowns. They do not work.These leftists just openly and repeatedly deny reality. Men are women; the world is ending in 9 years because of "climate change"; the border is secure, but the millions of illegals flooding across it are fleeing certain death; Hunter's laptop wasn't real (IE someone somehow digitally deepfaked all his videos? Leftist violence and burning cities is "free speech", but white silence is violence (so not only is it "violence" if you say something they don't agree with, it's violence if you don't say something they do agree with), and many more.
This is why they are known as the wacko left, and why we will soon need to separate from them to live in a reality-based country.
Excellent post.
The people who are doing this are bolsheviks. Literally, if you look at their ethno-religious background, it is the same as most of the bolsheviks who caused such untold horrors and bloodshed in Russia 100 years ago. Trotsky, Sverdlov, Zinoviev, Kamenev, Uritsky, Sokolnikov, Kaganovich and others then. Garland, Schiff, Schumer, Nadler, Zucker, Zuckerberg, and many more in the swamp now.
100 years ago they used their "law enforcement", known initially as the Cheka then the NKVD (the FBI of its day) to terrorize, raid and drag away their political opponents in the middle of the night.
And not only the high ranking opponents. Anyone from any group they took a dislike to. They had a vast network of prison camps known as The Gulag Archipelago. Read or listen to the Solzhenitsyn book, it's an eye-opener. As Donald Trump said, "they're not coming after me. They're coming after you. I'm just in the way. "..And yet, even FUX Snooze said the raid was proper. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-mar-a-lago-search-justified?fbclid=IwAR1rUZnyAyuifVO18NtTb_0hLhqAOK4KbXftKzCQ9Xfk5IIZHWpIEZmFzJM.
Here's what you guys don't get. The Mango Mussolini can not simply issue a "proclamation" and say that 'everything I want to declassify is hereby declassified'. Can't happen.
The NARA asked nicely several times that Donnie the Dumbass turn over all of the classified documents in his possession. He didn't. He even had one of his idiot lawyers sign a letter saying that Hair Furor had no more classified documents. Then some patriot contacted the DOJ and said that the Orange Menace lied. (Gee, what a surprise) Hence the raid.
And, once again, FUX Snooze said that the raid was proper.
In truth, the Orange Menace thought that having classified documents was "cool". Just like that shiny new toy he unwrapped at Christmas. "According to former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham, the now 76-year-old Trump treated classified information as "his own shiny toy he's showing off to his friends to impress them" — and his eagerness to share the info, she added, often trumped any fear that it might put lives in danger. " https://people.com/politics/former-white-house-press-secretary-says-classified-information-was-like-shiny-new-toy-to-donald-trump/.
But just keep on drinkin' that orange KoolAid.
MarquisdeSade1
08-23-22, 19:44
JD Vance is a good man and will be a decent senator. Unless there is, ahem, "mail-in voting".https://www.aol.com/news/poll-indicates-liz-cheney-presidential-162214298.html
Impeach Joe and Garland and lock up Hunter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg-Z2aqRKRoNo problem bud. Would you like a side of fries with your order?
Here's a sample:
"Consider just one of the bright lights of the Trump-selected Senate slate: former pro football star Herschel Walker, who is running away with the ideas primary. At a time when few in the GOP are offering more than doom-and-gloom pronouncements about crime, immigration and inflation, Walker, the Republican nominee in Georgia, gets the Heisman for creative policies. Democrats such as President Biden and Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-Ga.), Walker declared, 'try to fool you like they're helping you out, but they're not. They're not helping you out, because a lot of the money is going into trees. You know that, don't you? It's going into trees. We've got enough trees. Don't we have enough trees around here?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/23/herschel-walker-anti-tree-gaffes/
These leftists just openly and repeatedly deny reality ...
This is why they are known as the wacko left, and why we will soon need to separate from them to live in a reality-based country.
It appears there is no need to flee America, as you've previously mentioned. As 'White Supremacists', have set up shop in Idaho. And by "set up shop", I mean "A White Supremacist Homeland".
So that good news for you (I think), as there's no need to leave the great nation of America, and "set up shop" in some backwater country like Russia or Turkey, where I hear the psychiatry is more to your liking.
"The Governors of the five states that the racists have designated as their chosen homeland - Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming -all sent messages condemning the separatists and praising the country's ethnic diversity.
https://www.nytimes.com/1986/07/14/us/white-supremacists-meet-in-quest-for-homeland.html
So more good news, as it seems, Washington, Oregon, Montana and Wyoming, are all in the running for "The White Supremacist Homeland", but Idaho is definitely the front runner.
Yet, to figure out, if this a good thing. I mean, with all the "white supremacists" in one place, doesn't it make it easier, for the FBI to keep an eye on y'all?
Or are y'all think the FBI will be DE-FUNDED by then?
Remember when Trump was not only very much in favor of staying at home, going nowhere, no crowd gatherings, onerous social distancing (otherwise known as national and statewide business closures) by stubbornly rejecting all expert warnings not to make really stupid and dangerous decisions that, sure enough, laid the groundwork for and created Trump's Pandemic in the first place but he also issued national guidelines for it in order to deal with his Pandemic until he was certain the states would continue his business closure guidelines anyway?
I think some of you must have forgotten:
White House's Social Distancing Guidelines Will Be 'Fading Out,' Trump Says
April 29, 2020
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/29/848025672/white-houses-social-distancing-guidelines-will-be-fading-out-trump-says
...This comes as governors have struggled with the competing interests of reopening their economies and keeping their communities safe.
...
The original two-week guidelines that were extended 30 more days called for Americans to work from home, limit travel and avoid large gatherings.
Vice President Pence said the existing guidelines were being applied to the new guidance issued by the White House on how states can reopen safely.
...
Two weeks ago, the White House released a three-phase plan that provides guidelines for when states might reopen.
The proposal is predicated on states having a downward trajectory of confirmed cases, and it involves states having the capacity to treat all hospitalized patients, test health care workers and trace contacts of those infected.
It appears there is no need to flee America, as you've previously mentioned. As 'White Supremacists', have set up shop in Idaho. And by "set up shop", I mean "A White Supremacist Homeland".
So that good news for you (I think), as there's no need to leave the great nation of America, and "set up shop" in some backwater country like Russia or Turkey, where I hear the psychiatry is more to your liking. You need to know that Washington is essentially two states, as is Oregon. The two "halves" are divided by the Cascade Mountains. The western parts of both states are both very liberal. The eastern parts of both states resemble Idaho, Montana and Wyoming politically. In other words, they are the home of the "Men are men and the sheep are scared" crowd. Like Chrissie.
The moron brigade doesn't have enough IQ points to decorate a domino so no, they won't understand the issue.
As explained in the following quote by the one-term, twice-impeached former guy: "I didn't take the documents, but if I did take the documents, they weren't classified, and if they were classified, then they were planted, and if they weren't, I declassified them, and if I didn't, then it's a hoax. If it is not a hoax, Obama did it."
The above word salad is typical of the way the Orange Menace speaks and thinks but the quote itself is satire.
MarquisdeSade1
08-24-22, 15:25
These leftists just openly and repeatedly deny reality. Men are women; the world is ending in 9 years because of "climate change"; the border is secure, but the millions of illegals flooding across it are fleeing certain death; Hunter's laptop wasn't real (IE someone somehow digitally deepfaked all his videos? Leftist violence and burning cities is "free speech", but white silence is violence (so not only is it "violence" if you say something they don't agree with, it's violence if you don't say something they do agree with), and many more.
This is why they are known as the wacko left, and why we will soon need to separate from them to live in a reality-based country.https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/08/24/african-migrant-caught-on-video-raping-ukrainian-woman-in-broad-daylight-in-italy/
Where is the outrage from the pathetic feminists here for that poor Ukrainian woman?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11135259/1-000-migrants-arrived-NYC-Texas-line-food-free-phones-healthcare.html
MarquisdeSade1
08-24-22, 15:52
It appears there is no need to flee America, as you've previously mentioned. As 'White Supremacists', have set up shop in Idaho. And by "set up shop", I mean "A White Supremacist Homeland".
So that good news for you (I think), as there's no need to leave the great nation of America, and "set up shop" in some backwater country like Russia or Turkey, where I hear the psychiatry is more to your liking. People that want to get away from all the brownies go where Bernie goes, Vermont baby!
Seriously. Is it remotely possible that the people and Party these numbskulls and loons speak for, defend, support and vote for could in a thousand years solve the major, complex economic and national security problems that have ever faced the country, most of which their Party's numbskull policies created in the first place?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lJNBdE6NC64
Come on folks. Get a grip. It's time to snap out of it and return to reality; it is simply not possible to give a damn about America and Americans and vote for anyone but the Dem opponent of this representative group's heros, lords and saviors all the way down the ballot each and every election.
The USA is counting on you to do the right thing. Do it. You'll feel better if you do.
Most poll respondents and registered voters are beginning to see the light. Join them before it's too late.
It appears there is no need to flee America, as you've previously mentioned.Oh no, we're not going anywhere. All the illegals are, though. And frankly, most of the immigrants since the fraudulent and deceptive 1965 Immigration Act. The based Latinos like Mayra Flores and Luis Miguel will be given special dispensation to remain.
Or are y'all think the FBI will be DE-FUNDED by then?Yes.
As the economic situation deteriorates and the military / law enforcement weakens as white men are forced out by diversity quotas and choose not to fight for a system that hates us, the swamp will no longer have the resources or capability to maintain its instruments of internal repression.
https://www.aol.com/news/poll-indicates-liz-cheney-presidential-162214298.htmlAnd just how does this article relate to the post you commented on which was about J. The. Vance? To quote an old advert: "A mind is a terrible thing to waste. "
And the success of the show was down to Trump; when they tried bringing it back with Schwarzenegger it was a total flop and got cancelled straight away.
As for the bankruptcies, you clearly don't understand business, probably because you're a communist. When you run a business empire as vast as Trump's for as long as he did, you use all the laws you can in the best way to benefit you. Everyone at that level does the same.Hmmm. So when I was getting my MBA with a minor in Communism (hahahaha) it was generally accepted that bankruptcy wasn't exactly a prestigious marker of success. But I do understand in Trump-world that is the narrative. Yes, for several years The Apprentice was a successful program, athough the ratings were slowly sliding down hill over the course of the program.
https://www.thewrap.com/celebrity-apprentice-trump-tv-ratings-arnold/
I would posit that the only reason the program was successful and not a disaster was that Trump was essentially an actor and not the creator / director / writer / and only served as a co-producer in name only. Why do I say that?? Because as everyone who IS knowledgeable about business is aware: everything Trump touches turns to feces. Don't believe me?? Why is it that Trump cannot borrow money for any of his projects from a mainstream US Bank? Why do you think that is, Chris??
I don't even see the point of your post. Are you somehow trying to claim that Trump wasn't incredibly wealthy before he ran for president?Of course you don't see the point. You have your blinders on when it comes to Trump. The point is that he doesn't have businesses that make 100's of millions of dollars.
.....businesses earning him hundreds of millionsAnd NO I don't think Trump was incredibly wealthy before he ran for President. (Capitalizing the Presidency is a sign of respect for the office. NOT the office holder). He said he was wealthy but then again, he refused to publish his tax returns? Why was that?? Tax audits had -0- to do with anything. Everytime his tax returns were subpoenaed he sued to keep the return private. What was he so afraid of Chris??
He also claimed he was a brilliant student at Wharton but threatened to sue anyone who released his grades there. Why is that Chris??
Let's be honest. Trump has had one overwhelming success in life: being born to a very rich father who saw to it that Donald had every advantage in life. remarkably he has screwed that up too.
People that want to get away from all the brownies go where Bernie goes, Vermont baby!Life's too short for mincing the words, huh?
Dr. Oz Reveals One Weird Trick To Getting Crushed In An Election By A Violent Stroke Victim.
BRYN ATHYN PA — Pennsylvania voters are on the edge of their seats today as Senate Candidate Mehmet Oz has promised to reveal one weird trick to getting crushed in a Senate race by a violent stroke victim.
"Once I show you this little-known secret, you too will be able to lose a race for political office, even if your opponent is a violent racist who chases down black joggers with shotguns and recently had a stroke and can barely talk!" said Oz to a group of supporters. "Stay tuned after the commercial break to find out how!
Experts are speculating what Oz's secret to being such a bad Republican candidate might be. Possibilities range from frequent gaffes and cringeworthy campaign commercials to him being a left-wing progressive. "It's quite possible that his past outspoken support for abortion and radical gender ideology might be hurting his chances with voters who don't like abortion and radical gender ideology," said one political consultant.
At publishing time, Oz had also promised to reveal 10 ancient secrets for burning belly fat without dieting or exercising to anyone who votes for him. . .
Seriously. Is it remotely possible that the people and Party these numbskulls and loons speak for, defend, support and vote for could in a thousand years solve the major, complex economic and national security problems that have ever faced the country, most of which their Party's numbskull policies created in the first place?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lJNBdE6NC64
Come on folks. Get a grip. It's time to snap out of it and return to reality; it is simply not possible to give a damn about America and Americans and vote for anyone but the Dem opponent of this representative group's heros, lords and saviors all the way down the ballot each and every election.
The USA is counting on you to do the right thing. Do it. You'll feel better if you do.
Most poll respondents and registered voters are beginning to see the light. Join them before it's too late.
Elvis 2008
08-24-22, 22:20
Here's what you guys don't get. The Mango Mussolini can not simply issue a "proclamation" and say that 'everything I want to declassify is hereby declassified'. Can't happen.Outside of nuclear secrets and the location of spies, that is exactly what a Supreme Court case said, but it is a distraction. This has not been about charging Trump with a crime but retrieval of documents embarrassing to the FBI, Obama, and Biden.
What most Republicans find distasteful is the FBI raid was authorized by a hack judge. What bothers me is the warrant was illegal. A warrant has to be limited in time, place, and scope, and this warrant was not. It also was not signed by a neutral party. The magistrate who signed the warrant already recused himself from a Trump case and by his own admission and was not neutral.
Thing is that the warrant being illegal will not be judged as such unless there is a criminal case, and there will not be. If there were a real judge versus a partisan hack, the warrant would have been limited to the place the documents were kept and limited to just the supposedly classified documents, and there would have been no reason to seal anything outside of the content of the classified documents.
The nuclear secrets bullshit not only has been shot down by Trump but was just an excuse floated by the FBI to say Trump cannot declassify everything. Waiting almost two years to retrieve nuclear secrets is beyond dumb. Trump is also saying release everything because the documents are embarrassing to the FBI, Obama, and Biden.
But just keep on drinkin' that orange KoolAid.Nah, you are drinking the FBI KoolAid if you think the FBI is an objective body versus Biden's praetorian guard. The FBI works for Biden not the American citizens.
IMO the 4th amendment is really the most important amendment in the constitution. It means your stuff is your stuff, and it says the government cannot kill you as you own your body. It places limits on searches and seizures.
Being a Trump hating Dem, that is all you care about, getting Trump. You are too clueless to see how we do not even have a 4th amendment with these general warrants and hack judges. The police / FBI can raid anyone's home and find something illegal, and if they do not find something, they can plant whatever they want. The FBI even took Trump's passport.
I think a lot of Republicans were on the fence with Trump but now they are not. You are no longer voting for Trump but against the FBI and for the Constitution. After this raid, he will be the 2024 nominee.
General warrants and biased judges are how you get a dictatorship and you do not care about that PVM. You think a one party dictatorship with Democrats in charge would be great. You can quote whatever expert you want PVM, but this is the road to dictatorship and it needs to be stopped.
Whatever was in those documents that was embarrassing, the FBI just embarrassed themselves even more with this raid. Taibbi is right. The FBI did the impossible. They turned Trump into a victim.
Biden new green deal once again hurts domestic oil production. Once again it shows the world we will continue to beg for oil from other countries. OPEC announced they will start cutting production rather than increase as per Biden begging. Watch oil prices soar over $100 per barrel even with the Biden recession hitting Americans.
And to make things worse he just gave over $300 Billion of tax payer money to forgive college debt. Spending billions will just put inflation into high gear. Obama economist said today biggest mistake of Biden administration to date. Will hurt millions of low income and middle class families.
Biden stupidity at its finest.
Biden new green deal once again hurts domestic oil production. Once again it shows the world we will continue to beg for oil from other countries. OPEC announced they will start cutting production rather than increase as per Biden begging. Watch oil prices soar over $100 per barrel even with the Biden recession hitting Americans.
And to make things worse he just gave over $300 Billion of tax payer money to forgive college debt. Spending billions will just put inflation into high gear. Obama economist said today biggest mistake of Biden administration to date. Will hurt millions of low income and middle class families.
Biden stupidity at its finest.Yup. Will the people who worked and saved to pay off their college debt be given a refund? Of course not. Literally rewarding feckless, lazy, irresponsible, debt-welshing bums. Which to be fair is his voter base. Them, illegals, swamp creatures and dead people make up the democrat coalition.
Recommend anyone with questions about covid vax deaths and injuries to watch the Mark Steyn show on GB News. The fake news and Big tech both silence any such discussion.
Steyn is a brilliant commentator. Used to be a guest host for Rush and regular guest on Tucker Carlson (the #1 rated show in news) and now has his own gig in Britain. Kinda sad that the best news comes not from the land of the free but from Britain's GB News and also Sky News Australia, especially now that Fox has cucked (Tucker and Laura Ingraham aside), but oh well.
Couple of graphs from his latest show, illustrating the huge increase in non-covid excess deaths among people aged 25 to 55 in late 2021 (peak vax time), as well as the huge increase in "cause unknown" deaths at the same time. Hmm, nothing to see here folks.
Watch the full show for context https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=112fvwVvWpY
Steyn is fearless, funny, and a great communicator, I always watch or listen to his show as well as Tucker these days.
Biden new green deal once again hurts domestic oil production. Once again it shows the world we will continue to beg for oil from other countries. OPEC announced they will start cutting production rather than increase as per Biden begging. Watch oil prices soar over $100 per barrel even with the Biden recession hitting Americans.
And to make things worse he just gave over $300 Billion of tax payer money to forgive college debt. Spending billions will just put inflation into high gear. Obama economist said today biggest mistake of Biden administration to date. Will hurt millions of low income and middle class families.
Biden stupidity at its finest.And who was that Obama economist and what exactly did he say?
The student loan forgiveness is another in an unmatched list of historic positive legislation and stewardship for America that Biden and the Dems have accomplished in an astoundingly successful first mere 19 months. And after inheriting the worst across-the-board results from the worst president of all time and now the worst former president of all time! Which makes Biden's positive achievements even more remarkable.
And, no, I did not have an outstanding student loan to forgive nor am I related to anyone who had one prior to today. It's just a brilliant use of our tax payers' money, mine included, in order to Make America Great Again.
Elvis 2008
08-25-22, 05:41
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/trump-fbi-raid-classified-nuclear-documents/671119/
The funny part is the author makes the joke that Trump can declassify any documents he wants and put them in a you-haul. The irony is that Biden can then undeclassify them.
The author of the article actually made this joke which may come true: Depending on traffic and the sharpness of the Biden administration, I would imagine the documents in the you-haul could have been reclassified somewhere around Fredericksburg, Virginia.
So this is literally what we are dealing with. Trump declassifies documents. Biden reclassifies them and tries to put Trump in jail. With a Democratic jury in DC, that would certainly be enough to put Trump on the electric chair. The notion that Biden did not know about this then was comical. And of course, it came out today that Biden knew: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-white-house-directly-facilitated-fbi-mar-lago-raid.
And so now Matt Taibbi leads his article today with this, Excuse me for giving a shit, but what happened to the Trump raid story? Did that big news two weeks ago actually happen?
And there is more:
The Attorney General strode to a press conference podium three days after the raid looking like a condemned man. He hinted the raid only became public knowledge because Trump blabbed about it, then said the DOJ only filed a motion to release the search warrant "in light of the former president's public confirmation of the search" and because of "substantial public interest. " Garland toward the end of his remarks said he'the "personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter," briefly held his hand up to beseech reporters to hold their questions, and Snagglepussed out, exit stage right, without answering one.
The four-minute performance played like a hostage video. The idea of Garland both filing a motion to release the warrant and making a public appearance solely because of the post-raid reaction suggests he, too, was taken by surprise, and didn't expect to be facing questions. If there was any amount of planning before the raid, this would be impossible. Yet it appeared so.
On one hand, we're in the same place we've been a hundred times in the Trump era, waiting for the big reveal. We were here before Michael Cohen's testimony, before the Mueller report, before the Ukraine whistleblower letter, the Barr memo, and countless other expected bombshells. On the other hand, the evidentiary hype train has been turned off early this time.
"The Government," the motion read, "has refused to provide President Trump with any reason for the unprecedented general search of his home. " There's a lot of crazy stuff in the Trump motion, but they're not wrong about this.
Even if the raid wasn't politically motivated, it will for sure continue to look politically motivated, if the Justice Department doesn't come up with a better explanation than the six or seven leaked so far. Yet everyone is acting like that question has been answered.
Even though stories like Russiagate and Ukrainegate had holes from the start, their underlying dramatic logic was consistent: Trump is guilty, and proof will be released any minute. The Mar-a-Lago raid by contrast feels like an accidental missile launch.
Unless the man is literally in manacles before November 2024, this mess will remain an open wound for Democrats. Even if the raid wasn't politically motivated, it will for sure continue to look politically motivated.
End of link.
So here we go with the never mind Democrats again. The FBI showed up at a former president's house with an illegal warrant, 30 machine gun carrying agents, 11 vehicles, and searched every speck of Trump's house. And just like with all the other bombshells that never went off, we are back with the Dems waving their hands and saying, "Never mind. " Is short term dementia needed to be a Democrat?
Biden new green deal once again hurts domestic oil production. Once again it shows the world we will continue to beg for oil from other countries. OPEC announced they will start cutting production rather than increase as per Biden begging. Watch oil prices soar over $100 per barrel even with the Biden recession hitting Americans.
And to make things worse he just gave over $300 Billion of tax payer money to forgive college debt. Spending billions will just put inflation into high gear. Obama economist said today biggest mistake of Biden administration to date. Will hurt millions of low income and middle class families.
Biden stupidity at its finest.Are you sure you want to argue that people not paying their student loans simply puts billions into the system, drives inflation into high gear, hurts millions of low income and middle class families and is an example of stupidity at its finest?
Ok.
Because student loan payments have been on pause for more than two years, initially put on pause in March 2020 under a previous so-called potus in order to deal with the horrific results of his disastrous economic decisions going back to at least 2018. So, according to you, he is the one who did all those terrible things to America, its economy, low income and middle class families, triggering inflation and all that.
Just sayin'.
MarquisdeSade1
08-25-22, 13:27
Biden new green deal once again hurts domestic oil production. Once again it shows the world we will continue to beg for oil from other countries. OPEC announced they will start cutting production rather than increase as per Biden begging. Watch oil prices soar over $100 per barrel even with the Biden recession hitting Americans.
And to make things worse he just gave over $300 Billion of tax payer money to forgive college debt. Spending billions will just put inflation into high gear. Obama economist said today biggest mistake of Biden administration to date. Will hurt millions of low income and middle class families.
Biden stupidity at its finest.https://www.breitbart.com/health/2022/08/25/aclu-fought-chemical-castration-of-sex-offenders-supports-use-of-same-drugs-on-trans-kids/
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/08/25/pro-amnesty-groups-admit-latino-voters-reject-amnesty/
ErsatzJulian
08-25-22, 14:32
Recommend anyone with questions about covid vax deaths and injuries to watch the Mark Steyn show on GB News. The fake news and Big tech both silence any such discussion.
Steyn is a brilliant commentator. Used to be a guest host for Rush and regular guest on Tucker Carlson (the #1 rated show in news) and now has his own gig in Britain. Kinda sad that the best news comes not from the land of the free but from Britain's GB News and also Sky News Australia, especially now that Fox has cucked (Tucker and Laura Ingraham aside), but oh well.
Couple of graphs from his latest show, illustrating the huge increase in non-covid excess deaths among people aged 25 to 55 in late 2021 (peak vax time), as well as the huge increase in "cause unknown" deaths at the same time. Hmm, nothing to see here folks.
Watch the full show for context https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=112fvwVvWpY
Steyn is fearless, funny, and a great communicator, I always watch or listen to his show as well as Tucker these days.This is just sloppy reasoning. The cause of death is "unknown" and you immediately jump to the answer you want to believe. Do some proper research first before reaching any kind of conclusion.
Vagabundo1
08-25-22, 15:39
https://youtu.be/XPRcMQQJy4U
Comments?
Yup. Will the people who worked and saved to pay off their college debt be given a refund? Of course not. Literally rewarding feckless, lazy, irresponsible, debt-welshing bums. Which to be fair is his voter base. Them, illegals, swamp creatures and dead people make up the democrat coalition.How about the businesses, industries and workers who never got free money and subsidies from tax payers as do the oil industry, agriculture, healthcare, housing, certain corporations and other small businesses, etc?
When will we get our refund?
Hmmm. So when I was getting my MBA with a minor in Communism (hahahaha) it was generally accepted that bankruptcy wasn't exactly a prestigious marker of success. But I do understand in Trump-world that is the narrative. Yes, for several years The Apprentice was a successful program, athough the ratings were slowly sliding down hill over the course of the program.
https://www.thewrap.com/celebrity-apprentice-trump-tv-ratings-arnold/
I would posit that the only reason the program was successful and not a disaster was that Trump was essentially an actor and not the creator / director / writer / and only served as a co-producer in name only. Why do I say that?? Because as everyone who IS knowledgeable about business is aware: everything Trump touches turns to feces.For some reasons my reply to this post keeps being blocked. Have the woke censors got as far as the ISG? We really are in trouble.
In brief, Trump has such a vast and successful empire that bringing up individual parts of it where he or his subordinates used bankruptcy laws to their benefit is like making a video of all Tom Brady's sacks and interceptions, and using it to claim he is a terrible quarterback. Just obviously retarded.
Until his run for president, he was universally recognized as a great American success story. The left loves to try and rewrite history in an Orwellian fashion (for instance American Indians were all gentle, sensitive souls who did nothing more violent than pluck flowers until Europeans showed up) and this is just another example.
The Apprentice was a cultural phenomenon with high ratings for 14 seasons in primetime. Even people who didn't watch it knew about it and had seen some viral clips and knew the catchphrase. Yet again, the success was completely down to Trump, as the failure and cancellation of Schwarzenegger's single season showed.
It is bizarre that leftists are so overcome with Trump Derangement Syndrome that they attempt to dispute these clear, obvious, acknowledged facts. But then, they also claim that trannies are women, the border is secure, the world is ending in 9 years due to climate change, Biden doesn't have dementia, mass mail-in voting is the most secure way to hold an election, and many more things that fly in face of common sense and basic reality, so we shouldn't be too surprised.
As for tax returns, the IRS see them and certified there was no crime or evasion. That is all anyone needs to know. Why didn't Crooked Hillary release her medical records when she collapsed during the 2016 campaign? I recall that Trump promised to release his tax records if she released her medical records, but she declined. Seems that she had more to hide than just her crooked emails.
Again, claiming that Trump wasn't hugely wealthy because he didn't want to open the private tax records of himself and his vast business empire to public scrutiny is just silly, and yet another sign of TDS. You're really going to need to work on that before he wins the 2024 election, his third straight victory.
This is just sloppy reasoning. The cause of death is "unknown" and you immediately jump to the answer you want to believe. Do some proper research first before reaching any kind of conclusion.Sure. It's all just a coincidence that huge excess numbers of healthy, young and middle aged people are dropping dead of unknown, non-covid reasons directly after a mass coerced injection of the population with untested RNA-altering "vaccines".
Why, there are probably just a few more people slipping on ice because of global warming. That's all. Nothing to see here folks. That's why the fake news won't discuss the excess deaths and big tech censors any mention of them. Because there's nothing to see. Nothing at all.
Yup. Will the people who worked and saved to pay off their college debt be given a refund? Of course not. Literally rewarding feckless, lazy, irresponsible, debt-welshing bums. Which to be fair is his voter base. Them, illegals, swamp creatures and dead people make up the democrat coalition.The def sounds eerily similar to the Repubs banksters and Wall Street fraudsters welfare recipients. The 2008 financial bailout, Repub lead fiasco, cost tax payers, $12 Trillion.
https://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/2008-financial-crisis-cost-americans-12-8-trillion-145432501.html
Student loan forgiveness is drop in the ocean compared to the trillions, the Repubs have given, to the corporate welfare state.
... As the economic situation deteriorates and the military / law enforcement weakens as white men are forced out by diversity quotas and choose not to fight for a system that hates us, the swamp will no longer have the resources or capability to maintain its instruments of internal repression.How uncharacteristic of you to claim "victimhood"?
Note, in your statement/whine, just substitute "white men" for "women", "people of color", "BLM" or "LGBTQ" and it sounds like something you stole from every other liberal movement, you despise so much. (...kkkk!)
Outside of nuclear secrets and the location of spies, that is exactly what a Supreme Court case said, but it is a distraction. This has not been about charging Trump with a crime but retrieval of documents embarrassing to the FBI, Obama, and Biden.
What most Republicans find distasteful is the FBI raid was authorized by a hack judge. What bothers me is the warrant was illegal. A warrant has to be limited in time, place, and scope, and this warrant was not. It also was not signed by a neutral party. The magistrate who signed the warrant already recused himself from a Trump case and by his own admission and was not neutral.
Thing is that the warrant being illegal will not be judged as such unless there is a criminal case, and there will not be. If there were a real judge versus a partisan hack, the warrant would have been limited to the place the documents were kept and limited to just the supposedly classified documents, and there would have been no reason to seal anything outside of the content of the classified documents.
The nuclear secrets bullshit not only has been shot down by Trump but was just an excuse floated by the FBI to say Trump cannot declassify everything. Waiting almost two years to retrieve nuclear secrets is beyond dumb. Trump is also saying release everything because the documents are embarrassing to the FBI, Obama, and Biden.
Nah, you are drinking the FBI KoolAid if you think the FBI is an objective body versus Biden's praetorian guard. The FBI works for Biden not the American citizens.
IMO the 4th amendment is really the most important amendment in the constitution. It means your stuff is your stuff, and it says the government cannot kill you as you own your body. It places limits on searches and seizures.
Being a Trump hating Dem, that is all you care about, getting Trump. You are too clueless to see how we do not even have a 4th amendment with these general warrants and hack judges. The police / FBI can raid anyone's home and find something illegal, and if they do not find something, they can plant whatever they want. The FBI even took Trump's passport.
I think a lot of Republicans were on the fence with Trump but now they are not. You are no longer voting for Trump but against the FBI and for the Constitution. After this raid, he will be the 2024 nominee.
General warrants and biased judges are how you get a dictatorship and you do not care about that PVM. You think a one party dictatorship with Democrats in charge would be great. You can quote whatever expert you want PVM, but this is the road to dictatorship and it needs to be stopped.
Whatever was in those documents that was embarrassing, the FBI just embarrassed themselves even more with this raid. Taibbi is right. The FBI did the impossible. They turned Trump into a victim.The following quote from your rant says it all: "IMO the 4th amendment is really the most important amendment in the constitution. It means your stuff is your stuff, and it says the government cannot kill you as you own your body. It places limits on searches and seizures. ".
You seem to forget, if you ever knew, that nothing, abso-freakin-lutely nothing, that Donnie the Dumbass' marry band of fuckups printed, wrote, or said is "their stuff". All that "stuff" belongs to the American people and must be, by law, turned over to the National Archives.
The National Archives actually went easy on the Orange Buffoon. They asked him to return everything he had and he returned about half. They asked him to return more and he returned a few documents. Then, the Mango Mussolini's lawyers actually had the bad sense to lie to the Archives, in writing, that the Mango Mussolini had returned everything. The DOJ didn't believe that line of BS (they are obviously smarter than every tRUMP supporter) and they raided Mar-a-Lago.
Let me say this once and for all so that the moron brigade understands. Every scrap of paper that an administration generates belongs to the American people. tRUMP's 4th Amendment defense is as worthless as he is. Your defense of tRUMP's defense is just as worthless.
One last point. Donnie the Dumbass, in 2018, signed a law that made it a felony to be in possession of classified documents without authorization. Talk about being hoisted by your own petard. Oops!
Yup. Will the people who worked and saved to pay off their college debt be given a refund? Of course not. Literally rewarding feckless, lazy, irresponsible, debt-welshing bums. Which to be fair is his voter base. Them, illegals, swamp creatures and dead people make up the democrat coalition.Since the vast majority of rightwingnuts are supposedly Christians and think exactly as you do, let me remind everyone who claims to be a Christian that the entirety of your faith is built upon a debt that you couldn't pay and that someone else stepped up to pay for you.
Think about that, why don't you.
And if you aren't a Christian but know folks who are Christian and are up in arms about the student loan debt forgiveness program, why no say this to them. If you have the cojones.
MarquisdeSade1
08-25-22, 23:24
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/covid-19-vaccines-nate-silver/2022/08/25/id/1084664/
And malicious indifference to the loss of their lives.
They all need to be in prison.
MarquisdeSade1
08-25-22, 23:59
Life's too short for mincing the words, huh?I had a "nice" retort but I don't see anywhere?
MarquisdeSade1
08-26-22, 00:06
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/08/25/china-puts-out-emergency-19-point-plan-save-cratering-economy/
You losers that hate the United States can thank our Supreme Leader and Lord and Savior DJT.
He kneecapped the CCP and he is far from finished.
Round 2 starts Jan 2025.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2022/08/25/china-puts-out-emergency-19-point-plan-save-cratering-economy/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/16/china-intellectual-property-theft-progress/
Karma is a Koont.
ErsatzJulian
08-26-22, 01:34
Sure. It's all just a coincidence that huge excess numbers of healthy, young and middle aged people are dropping dead of unknown, non-covid reasons directly after a mass coerced injection of the population with untested RNA-altering "vaccines".
Why, there are probably just a few more people slipping on ice because of global warming. That's all. Nothing to see here folks. That's why the fake news won't discuss the excess deaths and big tech censors any mention of them. Because there's nothing to see. Nothing at all.Coincidence is not causality. This is the very first lesson every one learns in statistics. Instead of jumping to conclusions and being victim of confirmation basis, use your brain and ask yourself if there are other possible explanations, or COVID co-related factors that can account for an increase in the death rate. Also, looking at your description of RNA vaccine, I am not sure you understand the mechanisms by which mRNA vaccines are supposed to work.
And you don't believe in global warming! Wow. In this day and age, and in the presence of so much data suggesting that phenomenon is the real deal. Do you understand the mechanism by which global warming is happening? How do you account for the droughts and record high temperatures that are being observed worldwide?
Elvis 2008
08-26-22, 02:01
You seem to forget, if you ever knew, that nothing, abso-freakin-lutely nothing, that Donnie the Dumbass' marry band of fuckups printed, wrote, or said is "their stuff". All that "stuff" belongs to the American people and must be, by law, turned over to the National Archives.If that was the issue, a simple copy machine would have been the solution.
The National Archives actually went easy on the Orange Buffoon. They asked him to return everything he had and he returned about half. They asked him to return more and he returned a few documents.That goes against what Trump said. He complied with the subpoena, and the proper course for not complying with a subpoena is to enforce it in court not get an illegal warrant and do a raid.
Then, the Mango Mussolini's lawyers actually had the bad sense to lie to the Archives, in writing, that the Mango Mussolini had returned everything.That is just not true. Why did they put a lock on the storage shed if all the documents were gone? You are making stuff up.
Every scrap of paper that an administration generates belongs to the American people. tRUMP's 4th Amendment defense is as worthless as he is.LOL. It is not the paper that matters. It is the content on the paper. If it was a matter of possession, a copy machine would have sufficed. Your defense is bullshit. The FBI did not want Trump to have those documents.
And who was that Obama economist and what exactly did he say?
The student loan forgiveness is another in an unmatched list of historic positive legislation and stewardship for America that Biden and the Dems have accomplished in an astoundingly successful first mere 19 months. And after inheriting the worst across-the-board results from the worst president of all time and now the worst former president of all time! Which makes Biden's positive achievements even more remarkable.
And, no, I did not have an outstanding student loan to forgive nor am I related to anyone who had one prior to today. It's just a brilliant use of our tax payers' money, mine included, in order to Make America Great Again.Jason Furman.
Www. My post.com/2022/08/25/ Obama-economist-calls-biden-student-debt-relief-gasoline-on-inflationary-fire /.
Even the democrats know it is a bad deal. Now Biden just needs to raise taxes on small businesses and middleclass to pay for it.
QUOTE=EihTooms;2735974]Are you sure you want to argue that people not paying their student loans simply puts billions into the system, drives inflation into high gear, hurts millions of low income and middle class families and is an example of stupidity at its finest?
Ok.
Because student loan payments have been on pause for more than two years, initially put on pause in March 2020 under a previous so-called potus in order to deal with the horrific results of his disastrous economic decisions going back to at least 2018. So, according to you, he is the one who did all those terrible things to America, its economy, low income and middle class families, triggering inflation and all that.
Biden spending billions and getting nothing in return will create more inflation. Raising taxes on working families will just drive more people into poverty like yourself. More people will be like you and not be able to afford to live in USA. People leave the USA everyday and move to dhithole countries where they can live off their social security.
The def sounds eerily similar to the Repubs banksters and Wall Street fraudsters welfare recipients. The 2008 financial bailout, Repub lead fiasco, cost tax payers, $12 Trillion.
https://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/2008-financial-crisis-cost-americans-12-8-trillion-145432501.html
Student loan forgiveness is drop in the ocean compared to the trillions, the Repubs have given, to the corporate welfare state."I love the poorly educated" - Donald J. Trump, February 24,2016.
That alone is reason enough to move Heaven and Earth and pay any price to subsidize or provide 100% college education for every American.
For some reasons my reply to this post keeps being blocked. Have the woke censors got as far as the ISG? We really are in trouble.
You really are in trouble if you feel compelled to be*tch about some your "pearls of wisdom" not having made it to the forum. I would've lost a count to my posts that haven't made it to the forum if I'd cared to pay attention, and somehow it's never ever occurred to me to complain about something so benign that could be anything, from a human error to a simple technical glitch to a mod's intentional action. What's wrong about all these passive-aggressive rightwing whiners who have to bich about every tiny thing.
MarquisdeSade1
08-26-22, 09:01
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/monkeypox-covid-hiv-signs-patient-italy-b2152204.html
You have to laugh at the indignation of all the wingers about student debt. When Trump gave $50 b to bail farmers out of his trade war fiasco there was not one amongst them criticising him. $50 b not congressional approval just handed out with the promise of vote for me.
If that was the issue, a simple copy machine would have been the solution.
That goes against what Trump said. He complied with the subpoena, and the proper course for not complying with a subpoena is to enforce it in court not get an illegal warrant and do a raid.
That is just not true. Why did they put a lock on the storage shed if all the documents were gone? You are making stuff up.
LOL. It is not the paper that matters. It is the content on the paper. If it was a matter of possession, a copy machine would have sufficed. Your defense is bullshit. The FBI did not want Trump to have those documents.Here it is in black and white. https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html and further https://www.archives.gov/files/guidance-on-presidential-records-from-the-national-archives-and-records-administration-2020.pdf.
It is absolutely not the paper that matters. Here is what the NARA considers "Presidential Records": "documentary materials, or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, created or received by the.
President, the President's immediate staff, or a unit or individual of the Executive Office of the.
President whose function is to advise and assist the President, in the course of conducting activities.
Which relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory, or other.
Official or ceremonial duties of the President. " {44 USA see. § 2201 (2)}. And "documentary materials or any reasonably segregable portion thereof, of a purely private or nonpublic.
Character, which do not relate to or have an effect upon the carrying out of the constitutional, statutory.
Or other official or ceremonial duties of the President" and which include "diaries, journals, or other.
Personal notes serving as the functional equivalent of a diary or journal which are not prepared or utilized.
For, or circulated or communicated in the course of, transacting Government business," "private political.
Associations" and "materials relating exclusively to the President's own election to the office of the.
Presidency" {44 USA see. § 2201 (3)}.
So, except for Donnie writing down an order for hamberders and giving it to an aide to fetch (which is considered personal), if a document (in any media form whatsoever) in any way had to do with Government business, that document must be turned over to NARA. That means Kim Jong Il's "love letters" too.
Donnie the Dumbass' 4th Amendment argument (and your defense of it) is utter BS. As is your search warrant argument.
FYI, https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/23941534/https_storage.courtlistener.com_recap_gov.uscourts.flsd.617854_gov.uscourts.flsd.617854.17.0_10.pdf.
Elvis 2008
08-26-22, 15:36
Coincidence is not causality. This is the very first lesson every one learns in statistics. Instead of jumping to conclusions and being victim of confirmation basis, use your brain and ask yourself if there are other possible explanations, or COVID co-related factors that can account for an increase in the death rate. Also, looking at your description of RNA vaccine, I am not sure you understand the mechanisms by which mRNA vaccines are supposed to work.Confirmation bias? How about your affirming the vaccines do any good at all? Why do you get a yearly flu shot against a cold virus yet this "vaccine" was supposed to work years after it was developed? This "vaccine" worked like a good cold virus would be expected to, great initially and then was totally ineffective a short time later. Biden, Fauci, and the CEO of Pfizer were vaccinated x 4 and all got Covid. What more evidence do you need the vaccine does nothing? All cause mortality is higher in the vaccinated group than unvaccinated in many places. At present, this "vaccine" is no better than a placebo and much more dangerous than one. Do we still have a pandemic of the unvaccinated? What a crock of shit that was.
And you don't believe in global warming! Wow. In this day and age, and in the presence of so much data suggesting that phenomenon is the real deal. Do you understand the mechanism by which global warming is happening? How do you account for the droughts and record high temperatures that are being observed worldwide?The collection of CO2 levels has only been going on since the 1950's, and there was a linear rise in CO2 and a falling in global temperatures the first 25 years CO2 was measured. Sunlight is not constant but varies year to year and the predictions of global warming have been shelved until 2050 due to the expected lower amounts of sunlight which just so happens to be when the scientists predicting Armageddon will no longer be around. On top of that, a slight change in the earth's axis caused an ice age around 10,000 years ago, and that could happen at any time. Even Bill Maher, the huge save the earth guy, has grown tired of predictions that the world will end in 20 years.
As Germany learned, green energy means no energy. Germany trying to use solar power may have been the dumbest exercise ever. Solar and wind make no sense because of a lack of storage capacity. Natural gas is like 300 X cleaner than coal which Germany was using for power. Germany had to switch to Russian gas after shutting down coal plants because their solar experiment was not working. With the Russians cutting off gas this winter, Europe is faced with the ultimate irony, people freezing their asses off this winter in the name of protecting the planet from global warming. And this too is something global warming nuts never mention, way more people die of cold related injuries every year than heat.
Rationally speaking, a move away from polluting coal was smart, but coal is not singled out. All fossil fuels, including super clean natural gas, are treated the same.
There is a rational way to deal with these things, and there is the dumb Dem virtue signaling way. Global warming is real, the vaccine is great, and those of you skeptical of those things want to destroy the planet and have people die of Covid. Jeez, give it a rest Karen.
For some reasons my reply to this post keeps being blocked. Have the woke censors got as far as the ISG? We really are in trouble.
In brief, Trump has such a vast and successful empire that bringing up individual parts of it where he or his subordinates used bankruptcy laws to their benefit is like making a video of all Tom Brady's sacks and interceptions, and using it to claim he is a terrible quarterback. Just obviously retarded.Tom Brady has an incomparable record of success, Trump not at all. You can't equate excellence with mediocrity.
Until his run for president, he was universally recognized as a great American success story.Universally recognized? As what? The King of Bankruptcy Court.
It is bizarre that leftists are so overcome with Trump Derangement Syndrome that they attempt to dispute these clear, obvious, acknowledged facts. Trump Derangement Syndrome is a euphemism used to recast the word Reality. So call it 'fake news' or 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' but the reality is that Trump has been a consistant failure in his business efforts.
Using words like 'clear', 'obvious' and 'acknowledged' are a weak attempt used by someone who can't find factual sources to support their arguments.
As for tax returns, the IRS see them and certified there was no crime or evasion. That is all anyone needs to know. Why didn't Crooked Hillary release her medical records when she collapsed during the 2016 campaign? I recall that Trump promised to release his tax records if she released her medical records, but she declined. Seems that she had more to hide than just her crooked emails.Well, Hillary did release her medical records or at least her Doctor did and gave summaries of her conditions. So where was Donny with his tax returns? Hmmm who had something to hide??
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-hillary-clinton-medical-rec-idUSKBN2413CK
https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2016/09/14/the-surprises-in-hillary-clintons-newly-released-medical-records/?sh=6217b35c5023
Again, claiming that Trump wasn't hugely wealthy because he didn't want to open the private tax records of himself and his vast business empire to public scrutiny is just silly, and yet another sign of TDS. You're really going to need to work on that before he wins the 2024 election, his third straight victory.You mean that Donald didn't want people to see that he was a complete failure and his income tax returns would demonstrate that fact. Isn't that what he was afraid of??
You really are in trouble if you feel compelled to be*tch about some your "pearls of wisdom" not having made it to the forum. I would've lost a count to my posts that haven't made it to the forum if I'd cared to pay attention, and somehow it's never ever occurred to me to complain about something so benign that could be anything, from a human error to a simple technical glitch to a mod's intentional action. What's wrong about all these passive-aggressive rightwing whiners who have to bich about every tiny thing.Yep. Plus, Chrissie is a member of the moron brigade who aren't savvy enough to know that the opposite of "woke" is "asleep". I guess the moron brigade prefers to go through life hitting the snooze button every time the alarm goes off.
If that was the issue, a simple copy machine would have been the solution.
That goes against what Trump said. He complied with the subpoena, and the proper course for not complying with a subpoena is to enforce it in court not get an illegal warrant and do a raid.
That is just not true. Why did they put a lock on the storage shed if all the documents were gone? You are making stuff up.
LOL. It is not the paper that matters. It is the content on the paper. If it was a matter of possession, a copy machine would have sufficed. Your defense is bullshit. The FBI did not want Trump to have those documents.Copying of classified documents is strictly controlled. And not just any copy machine can be used. "§ 2400.30 Reproduction of classified information.
Documents or portions of documents and materials that contain Top Secret information shall not be reproduced without the consent of the originator or higher authority. Any stated prohibition against reproduction shall be strictly observed. Copying of documents containing classified information at any level shall be minimized. Specific reproduction equipment shall be designated for the reproduction of classified information and rules for reproduction of classified information shall be posted on or near the designated equipment. Notices prohibiting reproduction of classified information shall be posted on equipment used only for the reproduction of unclassified information. All copies of classified documents reproduced for any purpose including those incorporated in a working paper are subject to the same controls prescribed for the document from which the reproduction is made. " https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/32/2400.30.
Here's a timeline of the events.
January 2022.
The National Archives had asked Trump for some of the materials it believed had been taken from the White House and stored at Mar-a-Lago in Florida after Trump left office.
Trump turned over 15 boxes of materials taken from the White House after negotiating with officials at the National Archives in 2021.
According to officials, the boxes included personal letters and gifts Trump had received, including a congratulatory letter from former President Barack Obama.
"These records should have been transferred to NARA from the White House at the end of the Trump administration in January 2021," the National Archives said in a statement.
February 2022.
After going through the documents, the National Archives discovered what appeared to be classified information. They called on the Justice Department for guidance, according to the Times.
The agency confirmed on Feb. 18 that they found "classified national security information" among the boxes of the material turned over by Trump.
The finding raised concern among lawmakers, who started investigating through the House Committee on Oversight and Reform.
In a letter on Feb. 24, Rep. Carolyn be. Maloney, the chairwoman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, requested a detailed accounting from the National Archives of what was in the boxes.
April 2022.
In April, the Justice Department instructed the National Archives not to share any details about the classified materials found at Mar-a-Lago with the House Oversight Committee.
May 2022.
In early May, the Justice Department issued a subpoena to the National Archives to obtain the classified documents found within the boxes.
Spring 2022.
According to CNN, Trump aides including executive assistant Molly Michael, operations coordinator Beau Harrison, former White House staff secretary Derek Lyons, and former White House valet Walt Nauta, were interviewed by federal officials about the removal of documents to Mar-a-Lago or about their storage once brought to the resort.
June 3, 2022.
DOJ and FBI officials present a grand jury subpoena at Mar-a-Lago and are shown a storage room where boxes containing White House documents and other materials are kept.
According to The Wall Street Journal, Trump attorneys hand over documents marked as "top secret. ".
Trump attorneys also sign letter that Trump had no more classified documents at Mar-a-Lago.
June 8, 2022.
Justice Department counterintelligence chief Jay Bratt reportedly sends a request that a stronger lock be put on the storage room door and that the boxes "be preserved in that room in their current condition until further notice. "
He signs off in the letter with, "Thank you. Very truly yours, Jay Bratt, chief of counterintelligence and export control section. "
June 22,2022.
Trump receives a subpoena for surveillance footage from Mar-a-Lago, according to the Journal.
Aug. 5, 2022.
Reinhart issues a sealed search warrant for the former president's home.
Aug. 8, 2022.
FBI agents executed the search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, going through Trump's home for more than nine hours. According to reports, the agents concentrated on a bedroom, a safe, and at one point the former first lady Melania Trump's closet. The remaining boxes are removed from the storage room.
Aug. 11,2022.
Attorney General Merrick Garland holds a news conference to say that he personally approved the search of the former president's residence.
"The department does not take such a decision lightly," he said, adding, that "it is standard practice to seek less intrusive means as an alternative to a search, and to narrowly scope any search that is undertaken. " https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/mar-a-lago-search-timeline-events-that-led-mondays-search-trumps-home/MFR6Y5GOMJEAPKWKWQSR4CV7WA/ and https://wsvn.com/news/politics/trump-lawyer-claimed-no-classified-material-was-at-mar-a-lago-in-signed-letter-to-justice-department-sources-say/.
Gee, if what I said contradicts Donnie the Dumbass, could it be that Donnie lied? Again? Maybe a better question would be "when has he ever told the truth"?
Since I previously destroyed your so-called 4th Amendment argument, I won't bother to rehash it.
You really still don't "get it". Donnie the Dumbass was never supposed to have those documents in the first place. Unless that material was innocuous and obviously personal, like a order for hamberders or a note saying the he'd like Ivanka to sit on his face, anything having to do with government should have already been turned over to NARA. Those are the rules and I have previously explained them to you and cited sources. You may not believe the sources but them's the facts!
It appears there is no need to flee America, as you've previously mentioned. As 'White Supremacists', have set up shop in Idaho. And by "set up shop", I mean "A White Supremacist Homeland" ...
Yet, to figure out, if this a good thing. I mean, with all the "white supremacists" in one place, doesn't it make it easier, for the FBI to keep an eye on y'all?
Or are y'all think the FBI will be DE-FUNDED by then? Get a clue bro. People that want to get away from all the brownies go where Bernie goes, Vermont baby!
Hell yeah, if it's brownies YOU WANT, I'll clue you in on the D/L. (In a low whisper...) It's not just Vermont, dude.
If you love brownies (and you sound like a closet brownie lover), I hear brownies are found all over America, in 52 states.
That's right, no political affiliation necessary, as this very nice, sweet, moist and delicious treat, is found everywhere, in America.
Enjoy brother!
Elvis 2008
08-26-22, 17:37
So, except for Donnie writing down an order for hamberders and giving it to an aide to fetch (which is considered personal), if a document (in any media form whatsoever) in any way had to do with Government business, that document must be turned over to NARA.Actually, the way the warrant was written it would have covered Trump giving a written order for hamburgers, so you just stepped on your dick there.
More than that, this is an issue that should be settled in a court room not with machine guns. Can you come up with any reason NARA and the FBI needed the originals versus copies or Trump could not have kept copies of the declassified material outside of the Feds not wanting Trump to have those records? That is the issue.
Since all you dumb Dems have short term amnesia, let me remind you it was not Putin who cost Clinton the election in 2016 but FBI Chief James Comey. That moron decided not to prosecute Clinton and it was not his job to do so. What should have happened then was a group of prosecutors should have been selected in the most neutral way possible to decide if Clinton should have been charged. Instead this dumb shit Comey said, "No, gee, duh, I will do it. " and let Clinton off the hook. We know from the texts from Strzok and Page there was no way Comey was going to prosecute Clinton. In fact, Comey said while letting Clinton go that she broke the law and warned others not to.
So Comey looks like a partisan dope and to remedy the situation decides Clinton is going to win and says he is reopening his investigation into Clinton. Or maybe this is to get dirt on Clinton if she wins. Whatever the case, Trump wins, and the entire FBI leadership is shocked and then focuses their guns on Trump.
And now we know thanks to Mark Zuckerberg the Feds fucked around once again in an election process in 2020 by suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story at least on Facebook (and probably other social media companies) pushing the bullshit Russian disinformation line.
At the time, I was glad the FBI opened up its case against Clinton before the election, but in hindsight, it was clear to me that their doing so was bullshit, and I want the FBI a million miles away from deciding who is president but not you. Nah, you want the Dems to win and all the FBI has to do is posture that they are pro-Dem, and you are perfectly happy ceding the power of voting to them. You want a one party Democrat dictatorship.
In brief, Trump has such a vast and successful empire that bringing up individual parts of it where he or his subordinates used bankruptcy laws to their benefit........
Until his run for president, he was universally recognized as a great American success story. The left loves to try and rewrite history in an Orwellian fashion (for instance American Indians were all gentle, sensitive souls who did nothing more violent than pluck flowers until Europeans showed up) and this is just another example.
Well it looks like another Trump business is head for great success. Well if you define success as bankruptcy or creditor lawsuits.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/trump-social-media-app-facing-financial-fallout
Barre Seid, Secretive Tycoon Gives Record $1. 6 Billion to Fund GOP Takeover of the Courts.
https://www.yahoo.com/now/barre-seid-billionaire-donated-record-200922296.html
ProPublica and The Lever have revealed how Barre Seid, a 90-year-old conservative industrialist from Chicago, has given his fortune to a "nonprofit" run by Leonard LEO, the co-chair of the Federalist Society.
"You know, we believe its the biggest-ever donation to a politically oriented dark money group in U.S. history".
LEO has played a key role in helping Republicans reshape the federal judiciary. He's been described as Donald Trump's "Supreme Court whisperer" for his role in pushing for the nomination of Justices Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch.
Koch brothers, DeVos/Prince families, Uihleins family, Robert Mercer and now Barre Seid (off the top of my head). Meanwhile, the only one on the left that the right-wing/alt-right can point to is George Soros.
Some members (on the right/alt-right) may want to re-think their views, on which political party (if we can even call the QOP/GOP a political party anymore), is it exactly that is corrupting democracy, SCOTUS and POTUS with their money.
MarquisdeSade1
08-26-22, 19:44
They are trying to silence all dissent.
https://stormer-daily.rw/gavin-mcinnes-raided-by-feds-live-on-air-allegedly-sitting-in-jail-right-now/
Deja vu Maos cultural revolution, circa 2022 Biden style.
Jason Furman.
Www. My post.com/2022/08/25/ Obama-economist-calls-biden-student-debt-relief-gasoline-on-inflationary-fire /.
Even the democrats know it is a bad deal. Now Biden just needs to raise taxes on small businesses and middleclass to pay for it.Your link shows he didn't say what you said he said:
...
Obama economist said today biggest mistake of Biden administration to date. Will hurt millions of low income and middle class families.Thanks.
Oh, and your link doesn't exactly make the case that "Even the democrats know it is a bad deal" for the same reason Repubs hate it:
The student debt relief plan sparked criticism on both sides of the aisle with Republicans arguing the concept was inflationary and unfair to taxpayers and some progressives ripping Biden for not canceling all outstanding loans.Meanwhile:
Most Americans support student loan forgiveness, poll finds
https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/3614404-most-americans-support-student-loan-forgiveness-poll-finds/
A recent national poll conducted by progressive think tank Data for Progress just before Bidens announcement found 60 percent of 1,425 respondents agreed the federal government should eliminate all or some student loan debt for every borrower, compared to 34 percent who said the government should not forgive the loans and 6 percent who said they didnt know. The poll was conducted Aug. 19-21 online and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
Biden spending billions and getting nothing in return will create more inflation. Raising taxes on working families will just drive more people into poverty like yourself. More people will be like you and not be able to afford to live in USA. People leave the USA everyday and move to dhithole countries where they can live off their social security.Trump was the so-called potus that spent $2. 5+ TRILLION on an unnecessary economic "stimulus" legislation that produced a MILLION fewer jobs with it than Obama-Biden's policies produced without it and not even 1 percentage point more in GDP growth.
Biden is the POTUS whose every move, decision and legislation in just 19 months has created more private sector jobs than all three of the previous Repub so-called potuses combined and while paying down the record high debt racked up by the previous one.
Oh, and I can afford to live in the USA just fine. Just can't get sucked by and fuck so many adorable 22 year old Thai girls that my biggest challenge is juggling my schedule for which one to have stay over tonight in the USA as I do here where they are homegrown.
Confirmation bias? How about your affirming the vaccines do any good at all? Why do you get a yearly flu shot against a cold virus yet this "vaccine" was supposed to work years after it was developed? This "vaccine" worked like a good cold virus would be expected to, great initially and then was totally ineffective a short time later. Biden, Fauci, and the CEO of Pfizer were vaccinated x 4 and all got Covid. What more evidence do you need the vaccine does nothing? All cause mortality is higher in the vaccinated group than unvaccinated in many places. At present, this "vaccine" is no better than a placebo and much more dangerous than one. Do we still have a pandemic of the unvaccinated? What a crock of shit that was.
The collection of CO2 levels has only been going on since the 1950's, and there was a linear rise in CO2 and a falling in global temperatures the first 25 years CO2 was measured. Sunlight is not constant but varies year to year and the predictions of global warming have been shelved until 2050 due to the expected lower amounts of sunlight which just so happens to be when the scientists predicting Armageddon will no longer be around. On top of that, a slight change in the earth's axis caused an ice age around 10,000 years ago, and that could happen at any time. Even Bill Maher, the huge save the earth guy, has grown tired of predictions that the world will end in 20 years.
As Germany learned, green energy means no energy. Germany trying to use solar power may have been the dumbest exercise ever. Solar and wind make no sense because of a lack of storage capacity. Natural gas is like 300 X cleaner than coal which Germany was using for power. Germany had to switch to Russian gas after shutting down coal plants because their solar experiment was not working. With the Russians cutting off gas this winter, Europe is faced with the ultimate irony, people freezing their asses off this winter in the name of protecting the planet from global warming. And this too is something global warming nuts never mention, way more people die of cold related injuries every year than heat.
Rationally speaking, a move away from polluting coal was smart, but coal is not singled out. All fossil fuels, including super clean natural gas, are treated the same.
There is a rational way to deal with these things, and there is the dumb Dem virtue signaling way. Global warming is real, the vaccine is great, and those of you skeptical of those things want to destroy the planet and have people die of Covid. Jeez, give it a rest Karen.You obviously don't have a clue as to what a vaccine does and what viruses do.
Viruses mutate. Sort of like what happened to you when you mutated from a (probably) sentient human being into a dense, unthinking individual who swallows FUX Snooze and tRUMP BS hook-line-and-sinker.
The SARS-CoV-2 virus is different from the flu virus in that it can't mutate as fast as the flu does and it mutates differently as well. Read the following (if the words aren't too bigly for you) to find out why. But the upshot is that SARS-CoV-2 mutates about once every 11 days. Sometimes the mutation is beneficial to the virus and sometimes it isn't. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/the-coronavirus-is-mutating-but-what-determines-how-quickly.
But somehow you feel that the current vaccine (which was developed for the variant that existed in March 2020) being less effective today is somehow the vaccine's fault. If the vaccine is as ineffective as you claim, why not blame the guy who was large and in charge in March, 2020. The great (according to you), infallible (according to you) one-term, twice-impeached former guy. Yep, the Mango Mussolini is the one to blame for whatever perceived ineffectiveness the vaccine has for you.
Vaccines do one thing and one thing only. They prime one's immune system to recognize an invader and the body reacts to repel that invader. That's all a vaccine does. No more, no less. Every freaking virus on the planet mutates differently and at a different rate, yet you somehow believe that COVID vaccine is the only one that is ineffective. Gee, let's see. I saw an ad for Shingrix the other day on the tube. It detailed what it did (priming one's immune system) and how effective it was (at best 90% The flu vaccine isn't all that effective either since the flu mutates differently and rapidly and flu vaccine manufacturers need to guess which strain of the virus will pop up this year in enough time to get the vaccine manufactured in quantity. https://globalhealth.duke.edu/news/why-seasonal-flu-evolves-faster-we-can-fight-it.
Give your vaccine diatribes a rest, OK? We're all tired of it and of your inane rantings. Why not try to convince us that the world is flat or that the moon is made of green cheese.
Barre Seid, Secretive Tycoon Gives Record $1. 6 Billion to Fund GOP Takeover of the Courts.
https://www.yahoo.com/now/barre-seid-billionaire-donated-record-200922296.html
ProPublica and The Lever have revealed how Barre Seid, a 90-year-old conservative industrialist from Chicago, has given his fortune to a "nonprofit" run by Leonard LEO, the co-chair of the Federalist Society.
"You know, we believe its the biggest-ever donation to a politically oriented dark money group in U.S. history".
LEO has played a key role in helping Republicans reshape the federal judiciary. He's been described as Donald Trump's "Supreme Court whisperer" for his role in pushing for the nomination of Justices Amy Coney Barrett, Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch.
Koch brothers, DeVos/Prince families, Uihleins family, Robert Mercer and now Barre Seid (off the top of my head). Meanwhile, the only one on the left that the right-wing/alt-right can point to is George Soros.
Some members (on the right/alt-right) may want to re-think their views, on which political party (if we can even call the QOP/GOP a political party anymore), is it exactly that is corrupting democracy, SCOTUS and POTUS with their money.And OMG, how they never ever (and did I say ever?) shut the fuck up about Soros!
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