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Biden spending and Biden inflation out of control. Feds have to increase interest rates another 100 basis points. Stock markets are down 3% today. Biden successfully destroying hard working families retirements. Recession is here!!
QUOTE=Villainy;273641 Tom Brady has an incomparable record of success, Trump not at all. You can't equate excellence with mediocrity.
Universally recognized? As what? The King of Bankruptcy Court.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is a euphemism used to recast the word Reality. So call it 'fake news' or 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' but the reality is that Trump has been a consistant failure in his business efforts.
Using words like 'clear', 'obvious' and 'acknowledged' are a weak attempt used by someone who can't find factual sources to support their arguments.
Well, Hillary did release her medical records or at least her Doctor did and gave summaries of her conditions. So where was Donny with his tax returns? Hmmm who had something to hide??
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-hillary-clinton-medical-rec-idUSKBN2413CK
https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2016/09/14/the-surprises-in-hillary-clintons-newly-released-medical-records/?sh=6217b35c5023
You mean that Donald didn't want people to see that he was a complete failure and his income tax returns would demonstrate that fact. Isn't that what he was afraid of?
Billionaire's are not classified as failures. On the other hand Biden is classified as a failure plus all the students that did not pay off their student loans are classified as failures. Pretty much every left wing liberal is a failure. Just wanted to clarify the facts.
QUOTE=GDreams;2736337]You have to laugh at the indignation of all the wingers about student debt. When Trump gave $50 be to bail farmers out of his trade war fiasco there was not one amongst them criticising him. $50 be not congressional approval just handed out with the promise of vote for me.
You forgot to mention that China paid the $50 B with tariffs that Trump imposed on China. Pleas tell me that Biden will not raise taxes on everyone to pay for this stupidity of loan forgiveness.
ErsatzJulian
08-26-22, 23:15
Confirmation bias? How about your affirming the vaccines do any good at all? Why do you get a yearly flu shot against a cold virus yet this "vaccine" was supposed to work years after it was developed? This "vaccine" worked like a good cold virus would be expected to, great initially and then was totally ineffective a short time later. Biden, Fauci, and the CEO of Pfizer were vaccinated x 4 and all got Covid. What more evidence do you need the vaccine does nothing? All cause mortality is higher in the vaccinated group than unvaccinated in many places. At present, this "vaccine" is no better than a placebo and much more dangerous than one. Do we still have a pandemic of the unvaccinated? What a crock of shit that was.
The collection of CO2 levels has only been going on since the 1950's, and there was a linear rise in CO2 and a falling in global temperatures the first 25 years CO2 was measured. Sunlight is not constant but varies year to year and the predictions of global warming have been shelved until 2050 due to the expected lower amounts of sunlight which just so happens to be when the scientists predicting Armageddon will no longer be around. On top of that, a slight change in the earth's axis caused an ice age around 10,000 years ago, and that could happen at any time. Even Bill Maher, the huge save the earth guy, has grown tired of predictions that the world will end in 20 years.
As Germany learned, green energy means no energy. Germany trying to use solar power may have been the dumbest exercise ever. Solar and wind make no sense because of a lack of storage capacity. Natural gas is like 300 X cleaner than coal which Germany was using for power. Germany had to switch to Russian gas after shutting down coal plants because their solar experiment was not working. With the Russians cutting off gas this winter, Europe is faced with the ultimate irony, people freezing their asses off this winter in the name of protecting the planet from global warming. And this too is something global warming nuts never mention, way more people die of cold related injuries every year than heat.
Rationally speaking, a move away from polluting coal was smart, but coal is not singled out. All fossil fuels, including super clean natural gas, are treated the same.
There is a rational way to deal with these things, and there is the dumb Dem virtue signaling way. Global warming is real, the vaccine is great, and those of you skeptical of those things want to destroy the planet and have people die of Covid. Jeez, give it a rest Karen.First of all, don't change the subject. The question at hand is is it premature to attribute the number of surplus death to the COVID vaccine.
And it is not confirmation bias when the conclusion that the COVID vaccines are effective when it is backed by the results of a number of double blind tests with the results vetted by experts in the field. Your argument that Dr Fauci and the rest catching COVID despite having 4 shots of the vaccine is proof that the vaccines do not work makes me wonder do you understand basic immunology? What do you expect a vaccine developed against the original strain of COVID can do against a very mutated strain? As for your question about a pandemic amongst the unvaccinated, I need again to ask: do you understand the dynamics of a infectious disease? The situation 2 years ago where people have no immunity against COVID is very different from the situation today where most people have immunity? Also, it is silly to talk about "a pandemic of the unvaccinated" when the vaccinated and the unvaccinated are not segregated, and with the large number of people who have immunity, the unvaccinated have a free ride because of herd immunity.
[Deleted by Admin]. In a complex system, there is going to be a lot of different moving parts and at any point in time, it is not hard to find data that goes against the expectation. What matters is the preponderance of data. And please don't point to imaginary things like "predictions of global warming have been shelved until 2050" and "a slight change in the earth's axis" to confuse and distract from the main issue. What matters is what is actually happening: record temperatures are being made every year; glaciers are getting smaller; and weather all over the world is getting more extreme.
MarquisdeSade1
08-27-22, 02:48
QUOTE=Villainy;273641 Tom Brady has an incomparable record of success, Trump not at all. You can't equate excellence with mediocrity.
Universally recognized? As what? The King of Bankruptcy Court.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is a euphemism used to recast the word Reality. So call it 'fake news' or 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' but the reality is that Trump has been a consistant failure in his business efforts.
Using words like 'clear', 'obvious' and 'acknowledged' are a weak attempt used by someone who can't find factual sources to support their arguments.
Well, Hillary did release her medical records or at least her Doctor did and gave summaries of her conditions. So where was Donny with his tax returns? Hmmm who had something to hide??
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-hillary-clinton-medical-rec-idUSKBN2413CK
https://www.forbes.com/sites/judystone/2016/09/14/the-surprises-in-hillary-clintons-newly-released-medical-records/?sh=6217b35c5023.Vote for Joe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/20/your-money/college-graduate-earnings.html
Fair assessment of Biden, and great pushback on student debt cancellation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPd2Nfuhzbo
I doubt anyone here will like both sides of thiis video. Haha.
MarquisdeSade1
08-27-22, 04:57
"I love the poorly educated" - Donald J. Trump, February 24,2016.
That alone is reason enough to move Heaven and Earth and pay any price to subsidize or provide 100% college education for every American.https://amgreatness.com/2022/08/21/the-worst-and-the-stupidest/
QUOTE=GDreams;2736337]You have to laugh at the indignation of all the wingers about student debt. When Trump gave $50 be to bail farmers out of his trade war fiasco there was not one amongst them criticising him. $50 be not congressional approval just handed out with the promise of vote for me.
You forgot to mention that China paid the $50 B with tariffs that Trump imposed on China. Pleas tell me that Biden will not raise taxes on everyone to pay for this stupidity of loan forgiveness.Uh, American businesses and the American consumer paid those Trump Tariffs / Taxes / Higher, Inflationary Prices:
Who Really Pays the Tariffs? U.S. Firms and Consumers, Through Higher Prices
December 15, 2021
https://taxfoundation.org/who-really-pays-tariffs/
QUOTE=Villainy;273641 Tom Brady has an incomparable record of success, Trump not at all. You can't equate excellence with mediocrity.
Universally recognized? As what? The King of Bankruptcy Court.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is a euphemism used to recast the word Reality. So call it 'fake news' or 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' but the reality is that Trump has been a consistant failure in his business efforts.
Using words like 'clear', 'obvious' and 'acknowledged' are a weak attempt used by someone who can't find factual sources to support their arguments.
Well, Hillary did release her medical records or at least her Doctor did and gave summaries of her conditions. So where was Donny with his tax returns? Hmmm who had something to hide??Says the man who can't even figure out how to quote people in an opinion forum.
QUOTE=GDreams;2736337]You have to laugh at the indignation of all the wingers about student debt. When Trump gave $50 be to bail farmers out of his trade war fiasco there was not one amongst them criticising him. $50 be not congressional approval just handed out with the promise of vote for me.
You forgot to mention that China paid the $50 B with tariffs that Trump imposed on China. Pleas tell me that Biden will not raise taxes on everyone to pay for this stupidity of loan forgiveness.Nope, China did not pay for it in Tariffs. The American people paid the tariffs and here you call yourself a businessman. The tariffs are tax revenue, they are not a slush fund to dole out to anyone. Trump had no authority to hand out tax dollars in a big farm givaway.
Actually, the way the warrant was written it would have covered Trump giving a written order for hamburgers, so you just stepped on your dick there.
More than that, this is an issue that should be settled in a court room not with machine guns. Can you come up with any reason NARA and the FBI needed the originals versus copies or Trump could not have kept copies of the declassified material outside of the Feds not wanting Trump to have those records? That is the issue.
Since all you dumb Dems have short term amnesia, let me remind you it was not Putin who cost Clinton the election in 2016 but FBI Chief James Comey. That moron decided not to prosecute Clinton and it was not his job to do so. What should have happened then was a group of prosecutors should have been selected in the most neutral way possible to decide if Clinton should have been charged. Instead this dumb shit Comey said, "No, gee, duh, I will do it. " and let Clinton off the hook. We know from the texts from Strzok and Page there was no way Comey was going to prosecute Clinton. In fact, Comey said while letting Clinton go that she broke the law and warned others not to..And stop changing the subject also.
First, you obviously didn't read what I cited re: what is a "presidential record". I guaran-damn-tee you that the warrant was written the way it was because of the state of the original 15 boxes of documents that were returned to NARA. Had those boxes been orderly, etc. The warrant would have been written differently. But those boxes weren't that way. Stuff was intertwingled all over the place, with newspaper clippings, magazine articles, etc. Intermixed with confidential documents that were not in their proper folders.
Second, the Mango Mussolini isn't Jeanie ("I Dream of Jeanie") or Samantha ("Bewitched" he can't just cross his arms and nod his head or twitch his nose and magically declassify documents. Period. That decision needs to be memorialized. Which, by the way, means written down. And if it is written down, it should be in the possession of NARA. Period. So Donnie the Dumbass did not declassify documents (no matter what he said) and he was in illegally possession of them because they never should have left the White House.
Third, your assertion of "copies" is absurd. You obviously have no idea of the steps required to copy a classified document. https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0600/ML060050527.pdf.
Fourth, regardless of whether the documents were originals or copies, Donnie the Dumbass was in illegally possession of them because they never should have left the White House. I realize that concept is absolutely foreign to you and that's what is at the crux of the issue here. The Orange Menace had absolutely no need to keep those documents. He was illegally in possession of them because they all should have been turned over to NARA. And not only that, but NARA started "negotiating" with the idiot soon after he left the WH. And it took them a year to get less than half of what they sought. Obstruction, anyone? Then, after seeing what a sorry state the records were in and finding classified information in those documents, NARA turned the matter over to the FBI. The FBI did their thing and here we are.
The amusing thing about all of this is that it all could have been avoided. Yep. All Donnie the Dumbass needed to do was to say something like (in February of 2020) "Hey guys, I was going through some boxes that were shipped to Florida from the WH and I found about 50 boxes of documents that had classified material in them. Please come get them. My bad. " All that the feds would have done was mutter about all the stuff should have been turned over to NARA but, in the end, taken the position of "No blood, no foul". But nooooooooooooo. Donnie the Dumbass thought he was smarter than everybody else (like always). He stalled and stalled and stalled and finally sent less than half of what he had to NARA a year after they asked. Then, he had his merry band of legal fuckups actually sign an affidavit that said the Donnie the Dumbass had no more classified documents in his possession. Sheesh, Donnie must've thought that the FBI was as dumb as his supporters.
What you don't realize is that the search warrant redacted the names of multiple civilian witnesses. That means more than one. Definitely more than two. And probably more than three. So multiple people knew that documents were not only being kept in a locked closet (that wasn't a secure facility) but that there were documents scattered in multiple places at Mar-a-Lago. Documents that Donnie the Dumbass was illegally in possession of..
The rest of your inane rant is simple whataboutism, something you rightwingnuts are good at.
And, by the way, you seem to think that I am some sort of radical and that I want a one-party Democratic dictatorship. Nothing could be further from the truth. Other than voting for Ross Perot (once) and for Obama (once), I have voted Republican in every presidential election since 1972. What separates me from you is that I can see that Donnie the Dumbass has done irreparable harm to this country while you think that he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I would love to have a Republican party that actually tries to govern as opposed to simply voting NO on everything when they aren't in power.
QUOTE=GDreams;2736337]You have to laugh at the indignation of all the wingers about student debt. When Trump gave $50 be to bail farmers out of his trade war fiasco there was not one amongst them criticising him. $50 be not congressional approval just handed out with the promise of vote for me.
You forgot to mention that China paid the $50 B with tariffs that Trump imposed on China. Pleas tell me that Biden will not raise taxes on everyone to pay for this stupidity of loan forgiveness.Do you have any understanding at all about tariffs?
Tariffs are not paid by the sender. They are paid by the receiver. The receiver than jacks up the price of their product to cover their increased cost. Eventually, the consumer is who suffers. https://taxfoundation.org/who-really-pays-tariffs/and https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/what-tariff-and-who-pays-it and https://www.investors.com/news/economy/what-is-a-tariff/ ad infinitum.
Please stop listening to FUX Snooze.
I have finally seen enough. Donald Trump will be indicted by a federal grand jury.
You heard me right: I believe Trump will actually be indicted for a criminal offense. Even with all its redactions, the probable cause affidavit published today by the magistrate judge in Florida makes clear to me three essential points:
(1) Trump was in unauthorized possession of national defense information, namely properly marked classified documents.
(2) he was put on notice by the USA Government that he was not permitted to retain those documents at Mar-a-Lago.
(3) he continued to maintain possession of the documents (and allegedly undertook efforts to conceal them in different places throughout the property) up until the FBI finally executed a search warrant earlier this month.
That is the ball game, folks. Absent some unforeseen change in factual or legal circumstances, I believe there is little left for the Justice Department to do but decide whether to wait until after the midterms to formally seek the indictment from the grand jury.
The cruelest irony for Trump is that it never needed to be this way.
Put aside that in the chaos following his election loss Trump's team never undertook the normal procedure for properly sorting through and archiving his presidential records in coordination with the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). Put aside that properly marked classified records were shipped to Mar-a-Lago and sat there for months until he began turning stuff over to NARA in late 2021.
If he had fully cooperated at that point, and returned all of the records to NARA last year, this likely never would have become a criminal matter. DOJ would have declined to take any action, notwithstanding the existence of the classified records, and it would have been a "no harm, no foul" situation. Just another minor story in the Trump saga of incompetence.
But Trump just could not bring himself to play by the rules. He turned over 15 boxes last January but did not turn over all the records. Political operatives from conservative organizations started whispering into his ear that he had legal precedent on his side to refuse to turn over the classified records to NARA (he did not). His lawyers surprisingly wrote a rather condescending letter to DOJ in May 2022, effectively arguing that even if there were still classified records at Mar-a-Lago the FBI lacked the authority to take any criminal action against Trump given his former status as president. Then, in June 2022 after the FBI executed a subpoena to recover more records at Mar-a-Lago, two Trump lawyers wrote (and one signed) a sworn affidavit reassuring the government there were no more classified records at the property.
We now know that statement was not true. The FBI found multiple more classified records, including some with markings for Top Secret / Sensitive Compartmented Information (TS / SCI) during the search this month, and not just located in the storage room with the other boxes of records. They found records located in different parts of Mar-a-Lago.
Of course, there are various arguments for why a prosecution might not succeed in this situation.
There is the contention by Trump and his allies that he declassified the documents, whether through a "standing order" or more specific verbal action. No evidence has been produced corroborating that assertion, and there certainly is no indication that the classification markings themselves were ever revised to reflect the declassification. The Trump lawyers in May certainly did not provide any such evidence in their letter to DOJ, and they similarly provided no evidence of it in their "motion" filed earlier this week in district court in Florida seeking a Special Master.
And that is before we even consider if the classification status would matter for an Espionage Act prosecution, which only requires that the information relate to the national defense.
There is also the issue of selective political prosecution and supposed bad faith by the government in its decision to pursue the case. This is something that has been mentioned ad nauseum by Trump allies on cable news, and was briefly mentioned in the "motion" filed earlier this week in court. Lacking from those arguments is anything beyond rank speculation. That will not fly in court. Just ask Sidney Powell how well it works to try to litigate in court the way you argue on cable news. Hint: it does not go well.
All in all, this case should and in my opinion will result in an indictment. Sure, an indictment does not equal a conviction. Trump is still assumed innocent until proven guilty. There are unknown variables like whether the prosecution would occur in Florida or in the. See. We do not know what evidence Trump might have to substantiate his declassification claim. And we do not know what the courts would say about his various arguments.
Get the popcorn ready either way.
Source: https://news.yahoo.com/over-trump-indicted-220111093.html.
Just stop embarrassing yourself. And stop changing the subject also. ... Classic brother Elvis...kkkk!
... And, by the way, you seem to think that I am some sort of radical and that I want a one-party Democratic dictatorship. Nothing could be further from the truth. Other than voting for Ross Perot (once) and for Obama (once), I have voted Republican in every presidential election since 1972. What separates me from you is that I can see that Donnie the Dumbass has done irreparable harm to this country while you think that he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.
I would love to have a Republican party that actually tries to govern as opposed to simply voting NO on everything when they aren't in power.Hella Yeah! If only Republicans, could go back to ACTUALLY governing, for the American people.
But sadly that time has passed with the QAnon, quackery and nuttery that has taken over.
Coincidence is not causality. Said every cigarette manufacturer for decades.
And you don't believe in global warming! Wow. In this day and age, and in the presence of so much data suggesting that phenomenon is the real deal. ROFL. 40 years ago they were trying to push "global cooling". Here's a documentary from 1978 narrated by Leonard Nimoy telling us that an Ice Age is around the corner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tAYXQPWdC0&t=389s.
Then they started on the "melting ice caps will make the sea levels rise and drown us all" bullcrap. Here's an article from 1988 claiming the Maldives would be underwater within 30 years. Spoiler: it's all still there! https://uncensored.co.nz/2021/01/18/fail-a-30-year-old-climate-prediction-of-rising-sea-levels-proves-to-be-a-load-of-bunkum/.
Then of course there was Al "Release my Chakra" Gore (https://www.businessinsider.com/two-more-women-accuse-al-gore-of-assault-2010-7?r=US&IR=T - funny how these allegations go away for democrats, like Tara Reade the woman Joe Biden sexually assaulted) and his clownworld fake movie, which gave us a "10 year countdown clock" to save the world.
Well, the clock expired in 2016 and whaddaya know, we're all still here! But Gore lies still made him very rich, so good for him.
Lastly, of course, the leader of the democrat party Sandy Cortes (known professionally as "AOC") told us that the world would end in 12 years because of "climate change". That was 3 and half years ago, so I guess we've got 8 and a half to live. Right?
Plenty more examples of the utter hokum, poppycock and balderdash of the wacko left and their climate cult can be found here: https://www.westernjournal.com/10-failed-global-warming-predictions. Hell, even the cuckservatives at National Review are pointing it out: https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/01/al-gore-doomsday-clock-expires-climate-change-fanatics-wrong-again/.
Finally, go ahead and look up Climategate at the University of East Anglia, in which data was falsified to support the Climate Change Agenda.
We all know why they are doing it: they want the goyim under control, unable to travel freely and experience life, just sitting in their pods and cubicles consuming fake media and insectburgers. No thanks.
Actually, the way the warrant was written it would have covered Trump giving a written order for hamburgers, so you just stepped on your dick there.
More than that, this is an issue that should be settled in a court room not with machine guns. Can you come up with any reason NARA and the FBI needed the originals versus copies or Trump could not have kept copies of the declassified material outside of the Feds not wanting Trump to have those records? That is the issue.
Since all you dumb Dems have short term amnesia, let me remind you it was not Putin who cost Clinton the election in 2016 but FBI Chief James Comey. That moron decided not to prosecute Clinton and it was not his job to do so. What should have happened then was a group of prosecutors should have been selected in the most neutral way possible to decide if Clinton should have been charged. Instead this dumb shit Comey said, "No, gee, duh, I will do it. " and let Clinton off the hook. We know from the texts from Strzok and Page there was no way Comey was going to prosecute Clinton. In fact, Comey said while letting Clinton go that she broke the law and warned others not to.
So Comey looks like a partisan dope and to remedy the situation decides Clinton is going to win and says he is reopening his investigation into Clinton. Or maybe this is to get dirt on Clinton if she wins. Whatever the case, Trump wins, and the entire FBI leadership is shocked and then focuses their guns on Trump.
And now we know thanks to Mark Zuckerberg the Feds fucked around once again in an election process in 2020 by suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story at least on Facebook (and probably other social media companies) pushing the bullshit Russian disinformation line.
At the time, I was glad the FBI opened up its case against Clinton before the election, but in hindsight, it was clear to me that their doing so was bullshit, and I want the FBI a million miles away from deciding who is president but not you. Nah, you want the Dems to win and all the FBI has to do is posture that they are pro-Dem, and you are perfectly happy ceding the power of voting to them. You want a one party Democrat dictatorship.At this point, I must take a moment to salute the indefatigable sacrifice of Elvis2008.
Probably fewer than one in a thousand readers make it anywhere near the end of any of PissVomitMonger's marathons of turgid, unreadable wordsludge likely copy-pasted from one of the unread wacko left fake news publications kept afloat by Soros money. Whenever I try, the sheer volume of falsity, entitlement and illogic soon overwhelms me, and I am forced to retreat, eyes bleeding, to the safety and calm of the Pattaya Forum.
Yet somehow, Elvis regularly rebuts in full these veritable oceans of fake news sewage, standing magnificently astride the parted sea of mendacity like Charlton Heston, leftist lies driven back to the festering dark corners of communism whence they came.
Not all heroes wear capes.
Billionaire's are not classified as failures. On the other hand Biden is classified as a failure plus all the students that did not pay off their student loans are classified as failures. Pretty much every left wing liberal is a failure. Just wanted to clarify the facts.Quite right. This attempt by the wacko left to claim that Trump wasn't a huge American success story before he ran for president is truly Orwellian.
He was an absolute media darling: watch his appearances on The View pre-2015. The same bitter washed-up old harridans who shriek about him all day used to gush over him like schoolgirls meeting Justin Bieber. It was probably the first time they'd experienced moisture for decades.
All the politicians wanted his support. Mitt Romney famously begged for his endorsement. He owned billions in real estate all over the world; he had a vastly successful primetime TV show; he had beautiful women throwing themselves at him everywhere he went; he was the king of New York (and as Sinatra said, if you can make it there you can make it anywhere).
You can say you disagree with his policies, think he's too brash, whatever, but you can't try and alter history.
The wacko left's attempt to do this is not the first time they and their communist ilk have tried it. From the Russian Bolsheviks to Pol Pot's Year Zero in Cambodia, the wacko left have shown time and again they want to erase history and destroy society to conform to their false and wrong beliefs. And every time, they kill huge numbers of people. Thank god for the Founding Fathers who expected this to happen sooner or later, and gave us the Constitution, most specifically the Second Amendment, with which to defend ourselves.
Shall Not Be Infringed. Keep your guns close.
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And now we know thanks to Mark Zuckerberg the Feds fucked around once again in an election process in 2020 by suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story at least on Facebook (and probably other social media companies) pushing the bullshit Russian disinformation line.
This is a huge story which is being predictably ignored by the wacko leftist fake news.
We already knew that Facebook and Twitter interfered in the election by blocking the story about Hunter's laptop and the vast evidence of crimes contained therein. Polls have shown that, had voters had access to the censored story, it would have decisively shifted the election to Trump (ie his victory would have been so enormous that even the huge amount of democrat mail-in ballot rigging would not have been enough to steal it). https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/mar/24/medias-suppression-of-hunter-laptop-was-election-i/.
That was bad enough. But it just got worse.
Zuckerberg went on Joe Rogan the other day and said that the FBI told him the laptop was "Russian minsinformation".
That was a flat-out lie, and the FBI knew it. It has now been quietly acknowledged even in the fake news media that the laptop is real, and the feds have known it for years.
The fact that the FBI actually flatly lied to tell social media companies to block true information which would have led to a Trump victory is absolutely scandalous. It also confirms what we have known for some time: that the FBI is the latter-day NKVD of the Washington swamp, and that the entire rotten edifice is beyond saving. It must be torn down and replaced. And it will be. The Tree of Liberty is dehydrated.
Elvis 2008
08-27-22, 22:55
And stop changing the subject also.
First, you obviously didn't read what I cited re: what is a "presidential record". I guaran-damn-tee you that the warrant was written the way it was because of the state of the original 15 boxes of documents that were returned to NARA.LOL. It was everything he ever looked at or touched. A note written for hamburgers was specifically included in the warrant. Let me repeat: this was a general warrant and illegal. You still have no clue what that is.
Had those boxes been orderly, etc. The warrant would have been written differently. But those boxes weren't that way. Stuff was intertwingled all over the place, with newspaper clippings, magazine articles, etc. Intermixed with confidential documents that were not in their proper folders.It does not matter. You cannot use general warrants.
Second, the Mango Mussolini isn't Jeanie ("I Dream of Jeanie") or Samantha ("Bewitched" he can't just cross his arms and nod his head or twitch his nose and magically declassify documents. Period. That decision needs to be memorialized. Which, by the way, means written down. And if it is written down, it should be in the possession of NARA. Period. So Donnie the Dumbass did not declassify documents (no matter what he said) and he was in illegally possession of them because they never should have left the White House.You did not read the Atlantic article. He can do exactly that.
Third, your assertion of "copies" is absurd. You obviously have no idea of the steps required to copy a classified document.How many documents were classified and how long would have copies have taken to be done? Biden sent in 30 people with machine guns. Maybe one with a copy machine would have been more appropriate.
Fourth, regardless of whether the documents were originals or copies, Donnie the Dumbass was in illegally possession of them because they never should have left the White House. I realize that concept is absolutely foreign to you and that's what is at the crux of the issue here. The Orange Menace had absolutely no need to keep those documents. He was illegally in possession of them because they all should have been turned over to NARA.Trump got a subpoena and his last words to NARA were come back and get whatever you want if you need it. They told him to put a lock on the door and he did. I have not played the whatabout card with Hiliary Clinton and Obama but the Attorney General brought it up and said the law was applied equally to everyone. He holds this press conference and it was just 4 minutes of pure bullshit lies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEXkitl7rv4.
And not only that, but NARA started "negotiating" with the idiot soon after he left the WH. And it took them a year to get less than half of what they sought. Obstruction, anyone? Then, after seeing what a sorry state the records were in and finding classified information in those documents, NARA turned the matter over to the FBI. The FBI did their thing and here we are.You really cannot read between the lines can you? Trump had documents that embarrassed the FBI. He was showing them to people and obviously did not want to give them up. That is what prompted this raid with machine guns. The FBI and Biden did not want him to have those documents.
The amusing thing about all of this is that it all could have been avoided. Yep. All Donnie the Dumbass needed to do was to say something like (in February of 2020) "Hey guys, I was going through some boxes that were shipped to Florida from the WH and I found about 50 boxes of documents that had classified material in them. Please come get them. My bad. "So the government could destroy documents that embarrassed the FBI? LOL. Trump did not send in people with machine guns.
But nooooooooooooo. Donnie the Dumbass thought he was smarter than everybody else (like always). He stalled and stalled and stalled and finally sent less than half of what he had to NARA a year after they asked. Then, he had his merry band of legal fuckups actually sign an affidavit that said the Donnie the Dumbass had no more classified documents in his possession.He did not stall. He complied with the subpoena. How many times do I have to say that? NARA allowed him to keep the documents in his possession and advised him to put a lock on the door. It was only when Trump was showing off the documents they freaked out.
What you don't realize is that the search warrant redacted the names of multiple civilian witnesses. That means more than one. Definitely more than two. And probably more than three. So multiple people knew that documents were not only being kept in a locked closet (that wasn't a secure facility) but that there were documents scattered in multiple places at Mar-a-Lago. Documents that Donnie the Dumbass was illegally in possession of.The government knew what he had, fool. They left him be for months and then come up with machine guns. Quit with your legal bullshit. Why would they do that?
And, by the way, you seem to think that I am some sort of radical and that I want a one-party Democratic dictatorship. Nothing could be further from the truth. Other than voting for Ross Perot (once) and for Obama (once), I have voted Republican in every presidential election since 1972.Sorry, I do not believe you. You are so deluded that you think that coming in with 30 agents with machine guns to an ex-president's house is appropriate. Sending in machine gun carrying agents to a political opponent is banana republic stuff! WTF is wrong with you that you think this is okay? Just because it is Trump? He is not just an ex-president but an American citizen.
Are you so dense that you cannot see that a biased FBI can be used against you? If Trump wins in 2024, he can pull the exact same stunt with every living Democratic president and political opponent. Some Democratic Senator takes something classified home and Trump can arrest him with the FBI? Do you think Trump is the only one who may have broken this law? Hiliary destroyed documents that were under subpoena. Trump had printed documents that were in a closet. Hiliary had a server on line open to the world. And you think she was the only one?
What separates me from you is that I can see that Donnie the Dumbass has done irreparable harm to this country.What harm are you talking about? You are the fools that destroyed the country by going after him from the second he walked into office.
But I am not voting for Trump. I am voting against the FBI, for the Constitution, and against a Banana Republic. The average person is not law abiding but breaks like three laws every day.
Maybe one of these days you will get that when it comes to political opponents, you use the courts to get documents not machine gun carrying agents. Maybe if you think on that real hard, it will get through that dense fucking skull of yours, and it is not just me.
Matt Taibbi is very critical of Trump, and the Wall Street Journal has been as well. They both had the same reaction with this affidavit. This is it?
You dumb Dems think this show of force is the greatest thing since sliced bread. If the Dems indict him on this stupid charge, they just made him president in 2024, but you are so stupid you do not see why. SCOUTUS is not going to let you fools win 2024 in a court room and certainly not over this.
MarquisdeSade1
08-27-22, 22:55
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2022/08/27/sheriff-florida-honeymooner-left-sleeping-wife-hotel-meet-prostitute/
Ok which of you Florida swamp creatures is going to fess up?
Nope, China did not pay for it in Tariffs. The American people paid the tariffs and here you call yourself a businessman. The tariffs are tax revenue, they are not a slush fund to dole out to anyone. Trump had no authority to hand out tax dollars in a big farm givaway.China paid for it. Trump put 10% tariffs on these China goods and China devalued their currency 10% so that they could keep their market share. China received less USD and farmers got paid. You are saying Trump can't dole out money to farmers who got harmed on the trade deals but you think Biden can give billions to dead beat worthless democrats?
Do you have any understanding at all about tariffs?
Tariffs are not paid by the sender. They are paid by the receiver. The receiver than jacks up the price of their product to cover their increased cost. Eventually, the consumer is who suffers. https://taxfoundation.org/who-really-pays-tariffs/and https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/what-tariff-and-who-pays-it and https://www.investors.com/news/economy/what-is-a-tariff/ ad infinitum.
Please stop listening to FUX Snooze.Yes I know how tariffs work. USA companies bought the Chinese products. When Trump put the tariffs on China they devalued their currency by 10%. Consumers paid the 10% less for the products plus the 10% tariff and ended up paying the same for the product. China received 10% less Farmers got a settlement from the trade wars. A lot different than the giveaway by Biden to the worthless deadbeats who weren't paying their student loans.
Uh, American businesses and the American consumer paid those Trump Tariffs / Taxes / Higher, Inflationary Prices:
Who Really Pays the Tariffs? U.S. Firms and Consumers, Through Higher Prices
December 15, 2021
https://taxfoundation.org/who-really-pays-tariffs/You are missing the point on dealing with a corrupt communist country. They just manipulate their currency to compete with the tariffs. The Chines people pay the price. That is why so many Americans are fighting the far left communist agenda.
It is the one year anniversary of one of Biden's biggest failures. Not many people celebrating. Democrats avoiding the subject. There still are Americans stuck in Afghanistan and the Taliban has restored their terrorist leadership government. Taliban is well armed as Biden left billions of dollars of new weapons for them to use against Americans. Biden talking about sending money for humanitarian aid to Afghanistan which will go to Taliban terror groups. You can't fix stupid.
MarquisdeSade1
08-28-22, 03:30
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"Every conversation I ever had with a Trumper".
LOL.
https://fb.watch/faAFXSFwi3/
Steve Musal: "I'm not a lawyer. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the majority of the Metropolitan's readers are also not lawyers. And while there are a few exceptions, I know most of my Facebook followers aren't lawyers. And yet, there are many people who seem to be so sure of their understanding about how a grand jury works, that they're willing to take any decision made at face value — as proof of innocence or guilt.
That's not actually how a grand jury works. In a grand jury hearing, the prosecution (usually only the prosecution) presents evidence in a relaxed setting to the grand jury, who decide whether to issue an indictment **— whether there is enough evidence to charge someone with a crime. Since, traditionally, the defense doesn't get a say, it's pretty easy to get a grand jury to indict someone in most cases. In fact, it's so easy in most cases that a former New York state chief judge, Sol Wachtler, famously remarked that a prosecutor could persuade a grand jury to "indict a ham sandwich. " On a federal level, in 2010 (the last year for which we have statistics), grand juries returned just 11 out of 162,000 violent crime cases without an indictment, according to the FBI's Bureau of Justice Statistics. . . ".
https://www.mymetmedia.com/indict-ham-sandwich/
The sworn affidavit presented to secure the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago used by the FBI to raid Donald Trump's home had what appears to be a crucial error in it, one that could be easily debunked. If the facts detailed by independent journalist Paul Sperry are accurate, this could be enough to obliterate the Department of Justice's case against Trump. . . BREAKING: The FBI affiant who swore to the Mar-a-Lago search warrant appears to have made a critical factual error by stating in the unsealed affidavit: "I do not believe that any spaces within the PREMISES have been authorized for the storage of classified information. " This finding, which is the linchpin of the criminal case vs. Trump, overlooks the fact that: 1) White House records confirm that a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) authorizing the briefing and storage of classified material up to the TS / SCI level had in fact been installed at Mar-a-Lago; and, 2) records show that the Secret Service had recently awarded a nearly $600,000 contract to upgrade physical security within the premises at Mar-a-Lago for Trump's post-presidency transition. . . https://americafirstreport.com/critical-factual-error-by-fbi-raid-affiant-could-blow-up-the-dojs-case-against-trump/.
I have finally seen enough. Donald Trump will be indicted by a federal grand jury.
You heard me right: I believe Trump will actually be indicted for a criminal offense. Even with all its redactions, the probable cause affidavit published today by the magistrate judge in Florida makes clear to me three essential points:
(1) Trump was in unauthorized possession of national defense information, namely properly marked classified documents.
(2) he was put on notice by the USA Government that he was not permitted to retain those documents at Mar-a-Lago.
(3) he continued to maintain possession of the documents (and allegedly undertook efforts to conceal them in different places throughout the property) up until the FBI finally executed a search warrant earlier this month.
That is the ball game, folks. Absent some unforeseen change in factual or legal circumstances, I believe there is little left for the Justice Department to do but decide whether to wait until after the midterms to formally seek the indictment from the grand jury.
The cruelest irony for Trump is that it never needed to be this way.
Put aside that in the chaos following his election loss Trump's team never undertook the normal procedure for properly sorting through and archiving his presidential records in coordination with the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). Put aside that properly marked classified records were shipped to Mar-a-Lago and sat there for months until he began turning stuff over to NARA in late 2021.
If he had fully cooperated at that point, and returned all of the records to NARA last year, this likely never would have become a criminal matter. DOJ would have declined to take any action, notwithstanding the existence of the classified records, and it would have been a "no harm, no foul" situation. Just another minor story in the Trump saga of incompetence.
But Trump just could not bring himself to play by the rules. He turned over 15 boxes last January but did not turn over all the records. Political operatives from conservative organizations started whispering into his ear that he had legal precedent on his side to refuse to turn over the classified records to NARA (he did not). His lawyers surprisingly wrote a rather condescending letter to DOJ in May 2022, effectively arguing that even if there were still classified records at Mar-a-Lago the FBI lacked the authority to take any criminal action against Trump given his former status as president. Then, in June 2022 after the FBI executed a subpoena to recover more records at Mar-a-Lago, two Trump lawyers wrote (and one signed) a sworn affidavit reassuring the government there were no more classified records at the property.
We now know that statement was not true. The FBI found multiple more classified records, including some with markings for Top Secret / Sensitive Compartmented Information (TS / SCI) during the search this month, and not just located in the storage room with the other boxes of records. They found records located in different parts of Mar-a-Lago.
Of course, there are various arguments for why a prosecution might not succeed in this situation.
There is the contention by Trump and his allies that he declassified the documents, whether through a "standing order" or more specific verbal action. No evidence has been produced corroborating that assertion, and there certainly is no indication that the classification markings themselves were ever revised to reflect the declassification. The Trump lawyers in May certainly did not provide any such evidence in their letter to DOJ, and they similarly provided no evidence of it in their "motion" filed earlier this week in district court in Florida seeking a Special Master.
And that is before we even consider if the classification status would matter for an Espionage Act prosecution, which only requires that the information relate to the national defense.
There is also the issue of selective political prosecution and supposed bad faith by the government in its decision to pursue the case. This is something that has been mentioned ad nauseum by Trump allies on cable news, and was briefly mentioned in the "motion" filed earlier this week in court. Lacking from those arguments is anything beyond rank speculation. That will not fly in court. Just ask Sidney Powell how well it works to try to litigate in court the way you argue on cable news. Hint: it does not go well.
All in all, this case should and in my opinion will result in an indictment. Sure, an indictment does not equal a conviction. Trump is still assumed innocent until proven guilty. There are unknown variables like whether the prosecution would occur in Florida or in the. See. We do not know what evidence Trump might have to substantiate his declassification claim. And we do not know what the courts would say about his various arguments.
Get the popcorn ready either way.
Source: https://news.yahoo.com/over-trump-indicted-220111093.html.
I have finally seen enough. Donald Trump will be indicted by a federal grand jury.
You heard me right: I believe Trump will actually be indicted for a criminal offense. Even with all its redactions, the probable cause affidavit published today by the magistrate judge in Florida makes clear to me three essential points:
(1) Trump was in unauthorized possession of national defense information, namely properly marked classified documents.
(2) he was put on notice by the USA Government that he was not permitted to retain those documents at Mar-a-Lago.
(3) he continued to maintain possession of the documents (and allegedly undertook efforts to conceal them in different places throughout the property) up until the FBI finally executed a search warrant earlier this month.
That is the ball game, folks. Absent some unforeseen change in factual or legal circumstances, I believe there is little left for the Justice Department to do but decide whether to wait until after the midterms to formally seek the indictment from the grand jury.
The cruelest irony for Trump is that it never needed to be this way.
Put aside that in the chaos following his election loss Trump's team never undertook the normal procedure for properly sorting through and archiving his presidential records in coordination with the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). Put aside that properly marked classified records were shipped to Mar-a-Lago and sat there for months until he began turning stuff over to NARA in late 2021.
If he had fully cooperated at that point, and returned all of the records to NARA last year, this likely never would have become a criminal matter. DOJ would have declined to take any action, notwithstanding the existence of the classified records, and it would have been a "no harm, no foul" situation. Just another minor story in the Trump saga of incompetence.
But Trump just could not bring himself to play by the rules. He turned over 15 boxes last January but did not turn over all the records. Political operatives from conservative organizations started whispering into his ear that he had legal precedent on his side to refuse to turn over the classified records to NARA (he did not). His lawyers surprisingly wrote a rather condescending letter to DOJ in May 2022, effectively arguing that even if there were still classified records at Mar-a-Lago the FBI lacked the authority to take any criminal action against Trump given his former status as president. Then, in June 2022 after the FBI executed a subpoena to recover more records at Mar-a-Lago, two Trump lawyers wrote (and one signed) a sworn affidavit reassuring the government there were no more classified records at the property.
We now know that statement was not true. The FBI found multiple more classified records, including some with markings for Top Secret / Sensitive Compartmented Information (TS / SCI) during the search this month, and not just located in the storage room with the other boxes of records. They found records located in different parts of Mar-a-Lago.
Of course, there are various arguments for why a prosecution might not succeed in this situation.
There is the contention by Trump and his allies that he declassified the documents, whether through a "standing order" or more specific verbal action. No evidence has been produced corroborating that assertion, and there certainly is no indication that the classification markings themselves were ever revised to reflect the declassification. The Trump lawyers in May certainly did not provide any such evidence in their letter to DOJ, and they similarly provided no evidence of it in their "motion" filed earlier this week in district court in Florida seeking a Special Master.
And that is before we even consider if the classification status would matter for an Espionage Act prosecution, which only requires that the information relate to the national defense.
There is also the issue of selective political prosecution and supposed bad faith by the government in its decision to pursue the case. This is something that has been mentioned ad nauseum by Trump allies on cable news, and was briefly mentioned in the "motion" filed earlier this week in court. Lacking from those arguments is anything beyond rank speculation. That will not fly in court. Just ask Sidney Powell how well it works to try to litigate in court the way you argue on cable news. Hint: it does not go well.
All in all, this case should and in my opinion will result in an indictment. Sure, an indictment does not equal a conviction. Trump is still assumed innocent until proven guilty. There are unknown variables like whether the prosecution would occur in Florida or in the. See. We do not know what evidence Trump might have to substantiate his declassification claim. And we do not know what the courts would say about his various arguments.
Get the popcorn ready either way.
Source: https://news.yahoo.com/over-trump-indicted-220111093.This is a very typical ploy in communist countries. Communist governments like Russia do this all the time. If there is a threat to Putin by a political foe he will get a fake charge brought against his opponents and arrest them or jail them. In communist countries they do not have fair elections. This is just a far left communist action to get Trump out of the 2024 election drafted by Biden and an anti Trump judge and enforced by Biden KGB.
ScatManDoo
08-28-22, 15:56
This is a huge story which is being predictably ignored by the wacko leftist fake news.
We already knew that Facebook and Twitter interfered in the election by blocking the story about Hunter's laptop and the vast evidence of crimes contained therein. Polls have shown that, had voters had access to the censored story, it would have decisively shifted the election to Trump (ie his victory would have been so enormous that even the huge amount of democrat mail-in ballot rigging would not have been enough to steal it). https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/mar/24/medias-suppression-of-hunter-laptop-was-election-i/.
That was bad enough. But it just got worse.
Zuckerberg went on Joe Rogan the other day and said that the FBI told him the laptop was "Russian minsinformation".
That was a flat-out lie, and the FBI knew it. It has now been quietly acknowledged even in the fake news media that the laptop is real, and the feds have known it for years..Double agent TrumpShit is headed for the slammer for espionage.
This is a very typical ploy in communist countries. Communist governments like Russia do this all the time. If there is a threat to Putin by a political foe he will get a fake charge brought against his opponents and arrest them or jail them. In communist countries they do not have fair elections. This is just a far left communist action to get Trump out of the 2024 election drafted by Biden and an anti Trump judge and enforced by Biden KGB.So you're saying that there were no classified documents in what the Mango Mussolini returned to NARA earlier this year? You're saying that there were no classified documents in what the FBI took on August 8? You're saying that the Mango Mussolini's lawyers told the truth on June 3rd when they said that he had no more classified documents?
Rofl while smdh.
At this point, I must take a moment to salute the indefatigable sacrifice of Elvis2008.
Probably fewer than one in a thousand readers make it anywhere near the end of any of PissVomitMonger's marathons of turgid, unreadable wordsludge likely copy-pasted from one of the unread wacko left fake news publications kept afloat by Soros money. Whenever I try, the sheer volume of falsity, entitlement and illogic soon overwhelms me, and I am forced to retreat, eyes bleeding, to the safety and calm of the Pattaya Forum.
Yet somehow, Elvis regularly rebuts in full these veritable oceans of fake news sewage, standing magnificently astride the parted sea of mendacity like Charlton Heston, leftist lies driven back to the festering dark corners of communism whence they came.
Not all heroes wear capes.I, at least, provided the source. You never do.
And what, pray tell, in what I posted, was false?
Are you saying that Trump was in authorized to be in possession of national defense information, namely properly marked classified documents? Because he was not. He can't declassify documents just by waving his magic wand. Furthermore, if he wanted certain documents declassified, that request needed to be memorialized, which means written down. No such memorialization exists. Which means, to everybody with an IQ higher that 6, that it never happened.
Are you saying that he was not put on notice by the USA Government that he was not permitted to retain those documents at Mar-a-Lago? . Because his lawyers said he had no more classified documents on June 3rd. They even signed an affidavit. Which means that Donnie the Dumbass lied to them.
Are you saying that he did not continue to maintain possession of the documents (and allegedly undertook efforts to conceal them in different places throughout the property) up until the FBI finally executed a search warrant earlier this month? Because the FBI found more classified documents when they raided Mar-a-Lago. They were told so by witnesses.
Because if that's what you're saying, then you are abso-freakin-lutely incorrect.
DramaFree11
08-28-22, 17:11
It is the one year anniversary of one of Biden's biggest failures. Not many people celebrating. Democrats avoiding the subject. There still are Americans stuck in Afghanistan and the Taliban has restored their terrorist leadership government. Taliban is well armed as Biden left billions of dollars of new weapons for them to use against Americans. Biden talking about sending money for humanitarian aid to Afghanistan which will go to Taliban terror groups. You can't fix stupid.Biden and the Democratic's did have a good week last week, but the rest of his presidency is a complete joke. He is a disaster and taking the country in the complete wrong course. Hopefully the country has learned there lesson and realize the Democratic Party is not capable of leading anything.
This is a huge story which is being predictably ignored by the wacko leftist fake news.
We already knew that Facebook and Twitter interfered in the election by blocking the story about Hunter's laptop and the vast evidence of crimes contained therein. Polls have shown that, had voters had access to the censored story, it would have decisively shifted the election to Trump (ie his victory would have been so enormous that even the huge amount of democrat mail-in ballot rigging would not have been enough to steal it). https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/mar/24/medias-suppression-of-hunter-laptop-was-election-i/.
That was bad enough. But it just got worse.
Zuckerberg went on Joe Rogan the other day and said that the FBI told him the laptop was "Russian minsinformation".
That was a flat-out lie, and the FBI knew it. It has now been quietly acknowledged even in the fake news media that the laptop is real, and the feds have known it for years..Exactly true. The FBI is doing exactly what the KGB did in the former Soviet Union. That is why we have to push against the far left wacko's communism.
ScatManDoo
08-28-22, 18:37
Biden and the Democratic's did have a good week last week, but the rest of his presidency is a complete joke. He is a disaster and taking the country in the complete wrong course. Hopefully the country has learned there lesson and realize the Democratic Party is not capable of leading anything.Maybe your children can go to school with real teachers.
That teach their students how to use synonyms "there" and "their" correctly.
So you're saying that there were no classified documents in what the Mango Mussolini returned to NARA earlier this year? You're saying that there were no classified documents in what the FBI took on August 8? You're saying that the Mango Mussolini's lawyers told the truth on June 3rd when they said that he had no more classified documents?
Rofl while smdh.I am saying it is typical of a third world communist country. FBI / KGB can claim any and every document was there that they want to be there. There is no accountability in a communist regime.
You are missing the point on dealing with a corrupt communist country. They just manipulate their currency to compete with the tariffs. The Chines people pay the price. That is why so many Americans are fighting the far left communist agenda.What is corrupt about "manipulating their currency"? Do you mean that interefering in the free market is corrupt, is that your point? . Like the USA did by imposing import duties? Like the USA does with its own exchange rate by manipulating interest rates?
"That is why so many Americans are fighting the far left communist agenda".
Then they are clearly confused, just like you.
BTW: what is a far left communist agenda, and how does it differ from a 'communist agenda"?
This is a very typical ploy in communist countries. Communist governments like Russia do this all the time. If there is a threat to Putin by a political foe he will get a fake charge brought against his opponents and arrest them or jail them. In communist countries they do not have fair elections. This is just a far left communist action to get Trump out of the 2024 election drafted by Biden and an anti Trump judge and enforced by Biden KGB.So are you saying that the USA is a communist country? They meet the criteria that you give here:
- low level of democracy.
- no fair election process.
- brobery / blackmail / extortion / undue infleunce of money in politcial process.
- fake news stories to sway government polcies.
Welcome to the USSA!!
Steve Musal: "I'm not a lawyer. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the majority of the Metropolitan's readers are also not lawyers. And while there are a few exceptions, I know most of my Facebook followers aren't lawyers. And yet, there are many people who seem to be so sure of their understanding about how a grand jury works, that they're willing to take any decision made at face value as proof of innocence or guilt.
That's not actually how a grand jury works. In a grand jury hearing, the prosecution (usually only the prosecution) presents evidence in a relaxed setting to the grand jury, who decide whether to issue an indictment ** whether there is enough evidence to charge someone with a crime. Since, traditionally, the defense doesn't get a say, it's pretty easy to get a grand jury to indict someone in most cases. In fact, it's so easy in most cases that a former New York state chief judge, Sol Wachtler, famously remarked that a prosecutor could persuade a grand jury to "indict a ham sandwich. " On a federal level, in 2010 (the last year for which we have statistics), grand juries returned just 11 out of 162,000 violent crime cases without an indictment, according to the FBI's Bureau of Justice Statistics. . . ".
https://www.mymetmedia.com/indict-ham-sandwich/
The sworn affidavit presented to secure the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago used by the FBI to raid Donald Trump's home had what appears to be a crucial error in it, one that could be easily debunked. If the facts detailed by independent journalist Paul Sperry are accurate, this could be enough to obliterate the Department of Justice's case against Trump. . . BREAKING: The FBI affiant who swore to the Mar-a-Lago search warrant appears to have made a critical factual error by stating in the unsealed affidavit: "I do not believe that any spaces within the PREMISES have been authorized for the storage of classified information. " This finding, which is the linchpin of the criminal case vs. Trump, overlooks the fact that: 1) White House records confirm that a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) authorizing the briefing and storage of classified material up to the TS / SCI level had in fact been installed at Mar-a-Lago; and, 2) records show that the Secret Service had recently awarded a nearly $600,000 contract to upgrade physical security within the premises at Mar-a-Lago for Trump's post-presidency transition. . . https://americafirstreport.com/critical-factual-error-by-fbi-raid-affiant-could-blow-up-the-dojs-case-against-trump/.It takes all of about 30-seconds of internet research to blow up your SCIF argument. Evidently Paul Sperry is as dumb as all of Donnie the Dumbass' supporters, none of whom have enough IQ points to decorate a domino. While the White House Communications Agency did install a SCIF at Mar-a-Lago when Donnie the Dumbass was president, they removed it after he was kicked to the curb by the voters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago#text=During%20 Trump's%20 presidency%20 a%20 Sensitive, removed%20 after%20 he%20 left%20 office.
You guys will believe anything!
You are missing the point on dealing with a corrupt communist country. They just manipulate their currency to compete with the tariffs. The Chines people pay the price. That is why so many Americans are fighting the far left communist agenda.Mexico paid for Trump's silly wall more than the Chinese paid for his Tariff / Tax on the American consumer.
Trump's disastrous decisions produced below average results at huge taxpayer expense vs the 11-12 most recent presidents in his "best" of times before they eventually produced the worst jobs creation results since at least Herbert Hoover.
He skyrocketed the national debt even more, mass murdered a million Americans and counting, produced, you guessed it, another Great Repub Recession, a second and even bigger Bear Market decline in the broad USA stock market, ZERO Infrastructure legislation in 4 straight miserable years of him hoping everyone would think he gave a damn and was trying and a total surrender in Afghanistan on whatever terms the Taliban wanted.
Under his stewardship we had two massive gains in illegal border crossings, global supply chains were destroyed, the inevitable hyper-inflation followed and he capped off his worst presidency of all time with the most aggressive attack on the rule of law, democracy and individual freedom along with gleeful support for authoritarian dictatorships since Adolph Hitler.
The entire four years of the Trump so-called presidency did not produce one tenth the positive results for America, the American people, America's National Security and the unity and strength of Western Democratic Alliances as any one month of the Biden Presidency so far.
LOL. It was everything he ever looked at or touched. A note written for hamburgers was specifically included in the warrant. Let me repeat: this was a general warrant and illegal. You still have no clue what that is.
It does not matter. You cannot use general warrants.
You did not read the Atlantic article. He can do exactly that.
How many documents were classified and how long would have copies have taken to be done? Biden sent in 30 people with machine guns. Maybe one with a copy machine would have been more appropriate.
Trump got a subpoena and his last words to NARA were come back and get whatever you want if you need it. They told him to put a lock on the door and he did. I have not played the whatabout card with Hiliary Clinton and Obama but the Attorney General brought it up and said the law was applied equally to everyone. He holds this press conference and it was just 4 minutes of pure bullshit lies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEXkitl7rv4.
You really cannot read between the lines can you? Trump had documents that embarrassed the FBI. He was showing them to people and obviously did not want to give them up. That is what prompted this raid with machine guns. The FBI and Biden did not want him to have those documents.
So the government could destroy documents that embarrassed the FBI? LOL. Trump did not send in people with machine guns.
He did not stall. He complied with the subpoena. How many times do I have to say that? NARA allowed him to keep the documents in his possession and advised him to put a lock on the door. It was only when Trump was showing off the documents they freaked out.
The government knew what he had, fool. They left him be for months and then come up with machine guns. Quit with your legal bullshit. Why would they do that?
Sorry, I do not believe you. You are so deluded that you think that coming in with 30 agents with machine guns to an ex-president's house is appropriate. Sending in machine gun carrying agents to a political opponent is banana republic stuff! WTF is wrong with you that you think this is okay? Just because it is Trump? He is not just an ex-president but an American citizen.
Are you so dense that you cannot see that a biased FBI can be used against you? If Trump wins in 2024, he can pull the exact same stunt with every living Democratic president and political opponent. Some Democratic Senator takes something classified home and Trump can arrest him with the FBI? Do you think Trump is the only one who may have broken this law? Hiliary destroyed documents that were under subpoena. Trump had printed documents that were in a closet. Hiliary had a server on line open to the world. And you think she was the only one?
What harm are you talking about? You are the fools that destroyed the country by going after him from the second he walked into office.
But I am not voting for Trump. I am voting against the FBI, for the Constitution, and against a Banana Republic. The average person is not law abiding but breaks like three laws every day.
Maybe one of these days you will get that when it comes to political opponents, you use the courts to get documents not machine gun carrying agents. Maybe if you think on that real hard, it will get through that dense fucking skull of yours, and it is not just me.
Matt Taibbi is very critical of Trump, and the Wall Street Journal has been as well. They both had the same reaction with this affidavit. This is it?
You dumb Dems think this show of force is the greatest thing since sliced bread. If the Dems indict him on this stupid charge, they just made him president in 2024, but you are so stupid you do not see why. SCOUTUS is not going to let you fools win 2024 in a court room and certainly not over this.I stopped reading after the first sentence. If it was a "general warrant", the judge would have never signed off on it. Pull your head out of wherever it is located in your nether regions.
So are you saying that the USA is a communist country? They meet the criteria that you give here:
- low level of democracy.
- no fair election process.
- brobery / blackmail / extortion / undue influence of money in political process.
- fake news stories to sway government polices.
Welcome to the USSA!!No I am saying that Biden and the far left are doing everything in their power to make USA a communist / socialist country. Your above description summarizes the democrats fake news and no fair election process agenda. Thank god the Republicans are putting up a fight. And yes the democrats are pushing for communism with their wokeness and suppression of free speech and their complete disregard for the constitution.
What is corrupt about "manipulating their currency"? Do you mean that interefering in the free market is corrupt, is that your point? . Like the USA did by imposing import duties? Like the USA does with its own exchange rate by manipulating interest rates?
"That is why so many Americans are fighting the far left communist agenda".
Then they are clearly confused, just like you.
BTW: what is a far left communist agenda, and how does it differ from a 'communist agenda"?Currency manipulation is illegal under the rules of the International Monetary Fund, but the rules are never enforced. China is at the top of the list of the 15 countries who manipulate their currencies, and the deficits the USA Has with each country.
That is why we have to push against the far left wacko's communism.What "far left wacko's communism" can you see? You must have a vivid imagination.
What "far left wacko's communism" can you see? You must have a vivid imagination.You listed the far left communism in your last post. I will refresh your memory. Here is your list:
- low level of democracy.
- no fair election process.
- brobery / blackmail / extortion / undue influence of money in political process.
- fake news stories to sway government policies.
Delicious Brownies in 52 States... My mistake, that should have read Delicious Brownies in 50 States.
But to be more accurate, 50 states, the federal district of Washington, D.C., and five inhabited territories, as to where delicious brownies can be found.
Elvis 2008
08-28-22, 21:47
At this point, I must take a moment to salute the indefatigable sacrifice of Elvis2008.
Probably fewer than one in a thousand readers make it anywhere near the end of any of PissVomitMonger's marathons of turgid, unreadable wordsludge likely copy-pasted from one of the unread wacko left fake news publications kept afloat by Soros money. Whenever I try, the sheer volume of falsity, entitlement and illogic soon overwhelms me, and I am forced to retreat, eyes bleeding, to the safety and calm of the Pattaya Forum.
Yet somehow, Elvis regularly rebuts in full these veritable oceans of fake news sewage, standing magnificently astride the parted sea of mendacity like Charlton Heston, leftist lies driven back to the festering dark corners of communism whence they came.
Not all heroes wear capes.I appreciate it, Chris. It can get so frustrating dealing with these dumb Dems.
Elvis 2008
08-28-22, 22:06
Exactly true. The FBI is doing exactly what the KGB did in the former Soviet Union. That is why we have to push against the far left wacko's communism.And they are oblivious that it could happen to them. With 1-6 it sounds like the protestors were these insurrectionists who carried guns when they were the ones being shot at.
I am tired of being the rational ones. If they are going after Trump, reopen Hiliary's case and let us prosecute. Let Trump reclassify Obama's records as top secret and send out 30 agents with machine guns with a general warrant and put those 33 million pages back into national archives and the same with Bill Clinton and with Biden. Fire the FBI agents who have sat on Hunter Biden's laptop the whole time. Either sue or prosecute those 50 POS intelligence experts who said Hunter Biden's laptop was classic Russian disinformation without even looking at it. Stick the IRS on their ass and audit their taxes for the last 20 years.
The woman who lied about Cavanaugh should be prosecuted for lying to Congress. Then go after those who went after and threatened SCOTUS for overturning Roe. You do not have to win. Prosecute them so hard they have to file for bankruptcy.
That is the thing with these dumb Dems. They are so arrogant they think machine gun totiing agents will never show up at their door. I think we need to tell them "challenge accepted" mother fuckers.
These dumb Dems have for two nights in a row got swat teams sent out to Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) https://www.zerohedge.com/political/someone-wanted-get-me-killed-rep-greene-responds-being-swatted-2-nights-row.
And if you are a dumb Dem, you think Greene getting "swatted" and potentially shot and killed is cute. The Dems are so fucking arrogant they think this cannot happen to them. I think we need to show them it can.
Elvis 2008
08-28-22, 23:03
Since, traditionally, the defense doesn't get a say, it's pretty easy to get a grand jury to indict someone in most cases. In fact, it's so easy in most cases that a former New York state chief judge, Sol Wachtler, famously remarked that a prosecutor could persuade a grand jury to "indict a ham sandwich. " On a federal level, in 2010 (the last year for which we have statistics), grand juries returned just 11 out of 162,000 violent crime cases without an indictment, according to the FBI's Bureau of Justice Statistics. . . ".Good point, Travv. This dumb author makes getting indicted this big deal when it is nothing. If the case is in Florida, I am not sure that an indictment will be easy. The people on the grand jury who do it are going to feel the heat. In most cases, the media respects the anonymity of the grand jury but this is not most cases. In fact, voting to indict might put you in the crosshairs of some nut with a gun. Are you going to risk your life over the crime of misplaced paperwork?
With a grand jury, you cannot bring a lawyer, only the prosecutor can speak and ask questions, and you have to answer everything. It is a really fucked up process. A grand jury IMO was supposed to be run by the people and not a prosecutor but that is how it is.
At the state level, things are not much better. Thing is Deshaun Watson was not indicted twice by a grand jury. Given that low standard to prosecute, I was like why did DW have to deal with anything more than that? That means there was nothing that could even be prosecuted. This went over the media's heads as they went to crush DW's reputation. All these NFL hacks were besides themselves trying to promote the idea that they were for women or their belief that the NFL could appeal more to women if they beat the snot out of DW. Peter King even quoted the asshole lawyer for these women as he said DW was guilty of sexual assault. Since when is assault not a crime?
As the NFL's main audience, you would not want me on a jury. If you tell me that a woman was offered $100,000 to deal with a guy who put her hand on his dick and then masturbated in front of her, and she said that was not enough and asked me for more, she is getting nothing for wasting my time. I put very little value on the damages of nonharmful contact and disgust. The country would be bankrupt if everyone sued for that and expected that kind of a payout. In fact, asking for that much scratch disgusts me.
And then the Buffalo Bills hear the same nonsense about their punter assaulting someone, so they cut him. The woman went between not remembering anything and being sure the punter raped her. You can see what lawyers and the Dems have in common, "Lawyer for alleged victim in gang-rape lawsuit against ex-Bills punter rips team following player's release".
Were the Bills supposed to keep a guy on the team who was an alleged rapist? Shouldn't you be happy he was cut? Oh right, now that he is not working, you and your client cannot get any money. Even If you win the case now, the punter will declare bankruptcy and you still get nothing. Gee, I wonder how long until this civil case is dropped. What a dumb Dem move.
So are you saying that the USA is a communist country? They meet the criteria that you give here:
- low level of democracy.
- no fair election process.
- brobery / blackmail / extortion / undue infleunce of money in politcial process.
- fake news stories to sway government polcies.
Sadly, following the stolen election of 2020; the fake news media, FBI and big tech colluding to rig it using Mark ZOGerberg's billions, the above statement is true. Which is why we need to drain the swamp and make America great again.
My mistake, that should have read Delicious Brownies in 50 States.
But to be more accurate, 50 states, the federal district of Washington, D.C., and five inhabited territories, as to where delicious brownies can be found.Replying to your own ignored, unfunny jokes. A new low. Do you write for James Corden?
I stopped reading after the first sentence. If it was a "general warrant", the judge would have never signed off on it.A mercifully short post, and you accidentally stumbled upon something. Yes, the leftist activist swamp judge (who had previously been forced to recuse himself from a Trump case) signed off on this NKVD-style abuse just like a soviet show trial judge from your fellow travelers 50 years ago. Showing us all why the swamp must be drained, as if we didn't already know.
MarquisdeSade1
08-29-22, 00:56
My mistake, that should have read Delicious Brownies in 50 States.
But to be more accurate, 50 states, the federal district of Washington, D.C., and five inhabited territories, as to where delicious brownies can be found.Let us guess you're using "brownie" euphemistically to refer to some fecal fetish?
I am saying that Biden and the far left are doing everything in their power to make USA a communist / socialist country. the democrats are pushing for communism with their wokeness and suppression of free speech and their complete disregard for the constitution.I wish they were pushing a socialist agenda, but I see no policies to that regard. Can you name a private company that was recently taken over by the state? No Dems are unfortunately a far right neo-lib party, that enriches itself and their sponsors, just like the Reps are.
Suppression of free speech is not a communist policy. It is common across all authoritarian regimes, such as the USA, UK, Australia.
Disregard for the constitution is a symptom of a failing state like the USA is.
This is a very typical ploy in communist countries. Communist governments like Russia do this all the time. If there is a threat to Putin by a political foe he will get a fake charge brought against his opponents and arrest them or jail them. In communist countries they do not have fair elections. This is just a far left communist action to get Trump out of the 2024 election drafted by Biden and an anti Trump judge and enforced by Biden KGB.Exactly. Fake rigged elections and weaponization of law enforcement and judiciary against political opponents. All cheered on by fake news media. And antifa street thugs deployed as violent footsoldiers against anyone who pushes back (but the street thugs mysteriously never spend a day in jail, released on bail by leftist activist judges and charges dropped by Soros-funded prosecutors). The swamp is using the Robert Mugabe playbook.
It is the one year anniversary of one of Biden's biggest failures. Not many people celebrating. Democrats avoiding the subject. There still are Americans stuck in Afghanistan and the Taliban has restored their terrorist leadership government. Taliban is well armed as Biden left billions of dollars of new weapons for them to use against Americans. Biden talking about sending money for humanitarian aid to Afghanistan which will go to Taliban terror groups. You can't fix stupid.Quite right. The most shameful, disgraceful surrender in American military history, overseen by the swamp handlers of the drooling vegetable in the White House. The fake news will obviously try and pretend it never happened. But the American people do not forget.
Currency manipulation is illegal under the rules of the International Monetary Fund, but the rules are never enforced. China is at the top of the list of the 15 countries who manipulate their currencies, and the deficits the USA Has with each country."The IMF Articles of Agreement prohibit countries from manipulating their currency for the purpose of gaining unfair trade advantage".
So how would a response to punitive import duties be "gaining unfair trade advantage"? It is merely seeking a fair trade.
The USA and every nation manipulates its currency through interest rate changes. It's standard government policy.
"China is at the top of the list of the 15 countries who manipulate their currencies".
Well of course it is; its a US governemnt list. Clearly the USA is only going to worry about the actions of its 'enemies; not its allies.
You listed the far left communism in your last post. I will refresh your memory. Here is your list:
- low level of democracy.
- no fair election process.
- brobery / blackmail / extortion / undue influence of money in political process.
- fake news stories to sway government policies.As I replied elsewhere, these are NOT communist policies. These policies are common in authoritarian and failing nations, such as the USA.
MarquisdeSade1
08-29-22, 03:10
Exactly. Fake rigged elections and weaponization of law enforcement and judiciary against political opponents. All cheered on by fake news media. And antifa street thugs deployed as violent footsoldiers against anyone who pushes back (but the street thugs mysteriously never spend a day in jail, released on bail by leftist activist judges and charges dropped by Soros-funded prosecutors). The swamp is using the Robert Mugabe playbook.I live downtown check out the 24/7 anarchy here, a blk lesbian mayor and blk female county prosecutor installed by none other than sinister soros.
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-police-respond-to-multiple-street-racing-incidents-throughout-city/
Elvis 2008
08-29-22, 06:25
As I replied elsewhere, these are NOT communist policies. These policies are common in authoritarian and failing nations, such as the USA.Those are good points. I would also add bullshit wars when you can bash your peace loving opponents. Matt Taibbi, one of the few journalists I actually trust, has said Biden is recycling all of GWBush's Iraq war loving neocons. I hated GWB for that crap, and Taibbi has said Biden was the Dems biggest cheerleader with the Iraq war.
My buddy in the shipping business showed me all this crap in his warehouse and said it was "humanitarian aid" when in fact any fool could see it was for war. Now I can pick out the "humanitarian" packages and once again his warehouse was loaded with them, so I asked him, "Has this shit slowed down at all? And he said no, and these "humanitarian" packages started the second Biden took control.
So I know the war in Ukraine was provoked by Biden and now you are seeing the Dems trying to provoke China into war. Then you have these idiotic global warming policies that are going to cause Europeans to freeze this winter and have sent electricity prices soaring there. How bad off would we be if the Republicans did not call the Dems out for their global warming nonsense? And on top of that was the economy destroying lockdowns the Dems screamed for us to have.
All they have left is throwing money at people and war. They are literally bankrupt of ideas and will try to hold onto power not with smart moves but with war and the other things you mentioned JustTK.
Replying to your own ignored, unfunny jokes. A new low. Do you write for James Corden?Check back a few pages, you'll find your QAnon cohort and comrade in comedy, has the brownies on locked down, and had made the "original" brownie reference.
Said QAnon comrade, also did reply to my "unfunny jokes", but unfortunately his post was removed (...I believe you know that "deleted post" feeling, all to well).
Glad your taking notes, but please do try to keep up, already! Shheesh!
Quite right. The most shameful, disgraceful surrender in American military history, overseen by the swamp handlers of the drooling vegetable in the White House. The fake news will obviously try and pretend it never happened. But the American people do not forget.The withdrawal from Afghanistan was the smartest, best organized, smoothest, safest, least deadly withdrawal of the losing side of a major war from an occupied country in history.
It is another in a long list of historic Biden successes that typically pro Repub Mainstream Media would much rather not fully cite during this election year.
Over 4,300 Veterans Praise Biden's Afghanistan Withdrawal: 'Right Thing to Do'
https://www.newsweek.com/over-4300-veterans-praise-bidens-afghanistan-withdrawal-right-thing-do-1621656
Of course, the other downside for MSM doing so is they would then have to mention spineless Repub Trump's total surrender agreement with the Taliban on their terms and timetable.
The most horrible outcome of which was when Trump's beloved masters, The Taliban, allowed a single suicide bomber to breach their totally inadequate security and with that one bomb blast took out 13 USA military personnel and dozens of Afghans.
But, again, as Trump's own National Security Advisor admitted recently, that was Trump's deal, not Biden's:
'It was Trump's deal!' John Bolton schools Newsmax host over Afghanistan withdrawal
https://www.alternet.org/2022/08/john-bolton-newsmax-host-afghanistan/
Let us guess you're using "brownie" euphemistically to refer to some fecal fetish?Why, whatever do you mean? And why go straight to a fecal reference?
Get a clue bro. People that want to get away from all the brownies go where Bernie goes, Vermont baby!Was it not perfectly clear, when you made the reference to the word "brownies"? I thought, I was using the word, how you were using the word. If not, perhaps you can explain?
Exactly. Fake rigged elections and weaponization of law enforcement and judiciary against political opponents. All cheered on by fake news media. And antifa street thugs deployed as violent footsoldiers against anyone who pushes back (but the street thugs mysteriously never spend a day in jail, released on bail by leftist activist judges and charges dropped by Soros-funded prosecutors). The swamp is using the Robert Mugabe playbook.It is all the same rehash with you guys, isn't it?
Fake elections.
Rigged elections.
Weaponization of law enforcement.
Weaponization of judiciary.
Fake news media.
Antifa.
The swamp.
What drivel.
Elvis 2008
08-29-22, 15:11
I stopped reading after the first sentence. If it was a "general warrant", the judge would have never signed off on it. Pull your head out of wherever it is located in your nether regions.There is a link to a warrant here. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/12/read-the-unsealed-doj-documents-underpinning-search-of-trumps-mar-a-lago-00051524.
The warrant is for the whole house and includes the line "any government and / or presidential record created between January 20,2017 and January 20, 2021." Tell me you Dem does that not included Trump's passport. Isn't that a government document?
And why wouldn't an order for burgers that Trump wrote on not be a government document? That is a record Trump created while in office.
Your case that a magistrate signed the warrant and therefore makes it legal is stupid. Judges get their decisions overturned all the time. The whole point of the warrant was to cut out SCOTUS.
This was a general warrant and a fishing expedition. You Dems think Trump should not have any civil rights.
Quite right. The most shameful, disgraceful surrender in American military history, overseen by the swamp handlers of the drooling vegetable in the White House. The fake news will obviously try and pretend it never happened. But the American people do not forget.Are you sure its "The most shameful, disgraceful surrender in American military history"? By that, I am going to assume you mean USA, not American. But surely, Vietnam was worse? Iraq? Don't be upset by losing to 3rd world countries, it is a common trend w the USA. They can't even win when they bomb countries in to smithereens using illegal weapons, fighting illegal wars. Come to think of it, the only wars the USA has ever won are ones when the enemy were severely weakened from fighting elsewhere, or when they refused to get involved until the war was nearly won.
BTW: In what way is the Taliban a terrorist government?
Elvis 2008
08-29-22, 15:19
A mercifully short post, and you accidentally stumbled upon something. Yes, the leftist activist swamp judge (who had previously been forced to recuse himself from a Trump case) signed off on this NKVD-style abuse just like a soviet show trial judge from your fellow travelers 50 years ago. Showing us all why the swamp must be drained, as if we didn't already know.All I can add is Amen.
MarquisdeSade1
08-29-22, 15:57
Quite right. The most shameful, disgraceful surrender in American military history, overseen by the swamp handlers of the drooling vegetable in the White House. The fake news will obviously try and pretend it never happened. But the American people do not forget.https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/28/joe-biden-has-a-lot-of-fun-with-jay-lenos-cars-on-anniversary-of-kabul-bombing-slain-marines-dad-slams-as-tone-deaf/
MarquisdeSade1
08-29-22, 16:05
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/29/technology/china-semiconductors-technology.html
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-bridge-collapses-2012-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDEXLp5VbjM
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-35262802#text=A%20 hospital%20 in%20 China%20 has%20 been%20 bulldozed%20 while, amid%20 a%20 land%20 dispute%2 C%20 Xinhua%20 news%20 agency%20 said.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/07/china/china-coronavirus-hotel-collapse/index.html
https://www.newsweek.com/china-suffers-catastrophic-hotel-collapse-after-mocking-us-surfside-rescue-1609067
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrjLsn30Xzs
Are you sure its "The most shameful, disgraceful surrender in American military history"? By that, I am going to assume you mean USA, not American. But surely, Vietnam was worse? Iraq? Don't be upset by losing to 3rd world countries, it is a common trend w the USA. They can't even win when they bomb countries in to smithereens using illegal weapons, fighting illegal wars. Come to think of it, the only wars the USA has ever won are ones when the enemy were severely weakened from fighting elsewhere, or when they refused to get involved until the war was nearly won.I don't know where you took your history classes but you should ask for a refund. You wouldn't be the first European cuckold with a revisionist history of World War I and II.
ScatManDoo
08-29-22, 16:50
Exactly. Fake rigged elections and weaponization of law enforcement and judiciary against political opponents. All cheered on by fake news media.Talk about a deranged view of reality. ROTFLMAO.
Agent TrumpShit stole hundreds and hundreds of secret and top secret documents.
What need did he have for them (other than sale)?
Foreign agents are lining up to give testimony about how they were solicited.
The jig is up. Shit is going down.
Now, they're calling to defund the FBI. The "we stand with law enforcement" party has officially lost whatever little brainpower they had. https://news.yahoo.com/republican-calls-defund-fbi-boost-090008248.html.
There is a link to a warrant here. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/12/read-the-unsealed-doj-documents-underpinning-search-of-trumps-mar-a-lago-00051524 ...
This was a general warrant and a fishing expedition. You Dems think Trump should not have any civil rights.No, it is universally recognized that criminals do have rights!
Agent Orange, will be just fine, quit worrying.
P.S.: Although, I'm rooting for a good drubbing through the courts.
The withdrawal from Afghanistan was the smartest, best organized, smoothest, safest, least deadly withdrawal of the losing side of a major war from an occupied country in history.
It is another in a long list of historic Biden successes that typically pro Repub Mainstream Media would much rather not fully cite during this election year.
Comedy Central strikes again! I always find it helpful to have Yakkety Sax playing in the background before reading Eihtooms latest pearls of mirth. Really gets you into the mood.
Talk about a deranged view of reality. ROTFLMAO.
Agent TrumpShit stole hundreds and hundreds of secret and top secret documents.
What need did he have for them (other than sale)?
Foreign agents are lining up to give testimony about how they were solicited.
The jig is up. Shit is going down.Didn't you hear that Donnie the Dumbass didn't steal anything? He declassified everything in the US and all the stuff that he took was "his".
Besides, Donnie showed all the members of the moron brigade the attached map showing that the FBI didn't have jurisdiction and they were soooooo dumb they believed him.
I live downtown check out the 24/7 anarchy here, a blk lesbian mayor and blk female county prosecutor installed by none other than sinister soros.
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-police-respond-to-multiple-street-racing-incidents-throughout-city/Yikes. It would take a lot to get me to live in a democrat shithole city. Soon the felons are going to realize they can break out of the ghetto and start committing crime in nice areas because the defunded police won't stop them; and in the unlikely event they do, the Soros-funded prosecutors and leftist activist judges will give them bail then drop the charges. Once that happens (and it's already starting), it's over.
Check back a few...TL; DR.
Just doing you a solid bro. Never a good look to reply to your own Trevor Noah-tier "jokes". But go ahead and keep doing it by all means.
If you want some tips on genuinely hilarious comedy, follow Eihtooms. Truly groundbreaking.
Those are good points. I would also add bullshit wars when you can bash your peace loving opponents. Matt Taibbi, one of the few journalists I actually trust, has said Biden is recycling all of GWBush's Iraq war loving neocons. I hated GWB for that crap, and Taibbi has said Biden was the Dems biggest cheerleader with the Iraq war.
My buddy in the shipping business showed me all this crap in his warehouse and said it was "humanitarian aid" when in fact any fool could see it was for war. Now I can pick out the "humanitarian" packages and once again his warehouse was loaded with them, so I asked him, "Has this shit slowed down at all? And he said no, and these "humanitarian" packages started the second Biden took control.
So I know the war in Ukraine was provoked by Biden and now you are seeing the Dems trying to provoke China into war. Then you have these idiotic global warming policies that are going to cause Europeans to freeze this winter and have sent electricity prices soaring there. How bad off would we be if the Republicans did not call the Dems out for their global warming nonsense? And on top of that was the economy destroying lockdowns the Dems screamed for us to have.
All they have left is throwing money at people and war. They are literally bankrupt of ideas and will try to hold onto power not with smart moves but with war and the other things you mentioned JustTK.This whole Ukraine thing is dirty. First the CIA run a coup against the elected govt in 2014, then the Washington swamp start using the place for money laundering and illegal chemical / bio-weapons labs. Then the final straw, they push their CIA puppet coup govt to enter NATO and station US military bases, nukes and the illegal bio-weapons on Russia's border just a few miles from Moscow.
There was no way Russia could stand for that. We (quite rightly) didn't stand for the Soviets stationing nukes in Cuba 60 years ago and this is very similar.
The Washington swamp wanted to provoke a war, sacrificing huge numbers of Ukrainian goyim (the Ukrainian Jews were all airlifted out by their cousin Zelensky when the war started). They thought they could collapse Russia's economy and turn Moscow to Globohomo. Red Square full of African immigrants and tranny grooming parades.
Thankfully, it backfired: Putin and Russia are winning the war with one hand tied behind their back (Russia hasn't even called up any reserves and hasn't resorted to serious bombing despite Zelensky's troops hiding among civilians in cities), and the Russian economy is going great, while Europe is in crisis and about to freeze to death this winter.
A welcome slap in the face for the neocon ZOG swamp and its murderous, nefarious goals.
The withdrawal from Afghanistan was the smartest, best organized, smoothest, safest, least deadly withdrawal of the losing side of a major war from an occupied country in history.
It is another in a long list of historic Biden successes that typically pro Repub Mainstream Media would much rather not fully cite during this election year.
Over 4,300 Veterans Praise Biden's Afghanistan Withdrawal: 'Right Thing to Do'
https://www.newsweek.com/over-4300-veterans-praise-bidens-afghanistan-withdrawal-right-thing-do-1621656
Of course, the other downside for MSM doing so is they would then have to mention spineless Repub Trump's total surrender agreement with the Taliban on their terms and timetable.
The most horrible outcome of which was when Trump's beloved masters, The Taliban, allowed a single suicide bomber to breach their totally inadequate security and with that one bomb blast took out 13 USA military personnel and dozens of Afghans. ... Absolutely!
Given the mess Agent Orange left behind, it was most definitely successful, notwithstanding the unfortunate 13 USA military deaths.
Biden, despite the DINOs, is having a continued string of successes to his credit. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/01/19/fast-facts-record-firsts-in-president-bidens-first-year/
Not so sleepy, after all. Just good ole fashion governing and working the margins!
China paid for it. Trump put 10% tariffs on these China goods and China devalued their currency 10% so that they could keep their market share. China received less USD and farmers got paid. You are saying Trump can't dole out money to farmers who got harmed on the trade deals but you think Biden can give billions to dead beat worthless democrats?Once again Canada caught in a lie reverts to spin to try to justify the lie. The tariffs are paid by the US consumers. Thats it. You said China paid. They didn't and don't. Just like Mexico didn't pay for the wall. So Trump hurt the farmers with his failed trade war and paid them off with funds taken from American consumers and you blame Biden for inflation when the root cause is Donnys stupid trade war and failed Covid response. Spin that!
MarquisdeSade1
08-30-22, 02:21
Exactly. Fake rigged elections and weaponization of law enforcement and judiciary against political opponents. All cheered on by fake news media. And antifa street thugs deployed as violent footsoldiers against anyone who pushes back (but the street thugs mysteriously never spend a day in jail, released on bail by leftist activist judges and charges dropped by Soros-funded prosecutors). The swamp is using the Robert Mugabe playbook.ITS TIME, its overdo!!
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/no-law-when-it-comes-to-trump-lindsey-graham-predicts-riots-in-the-streets-if-ex-president-prosecuted/
Sign me up!
I live downtown check out the 24/7 anarchy here, a blk lesbian mayor and blk female county prosecutor installed by none other than sinister soros.
https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/chicago-police-respond-to-multiple-street-racing-incidents-throughout-city/
And OMG, how they never ever (and did I say ever?) shut the fuck up about Soros! Right on cue, with Soros, just like you said. (...kkkk!)
...a blk lesbian mayor and blk female county prosecutor ...
And the word "blk", like what is that? Is that like a blt sandwich? Or like a "brownie"?
Surely you can spell the word black, if that's what you mean?
TL; DR.
Just doing you a solid bro. Never a good look to reply to your own Trevor Noah-tier "jokes". But go ahead and keep doing it by all means...QB; DL.
How does one stop when Agent Orange and QAnon comrades, provide such a rich target environment.
Dude, Why would you want me to stop? I wouldn't want you to stop, you doing you.
The material you supply is valued input for my political satire and counterpoints.
Don't stop, keep do doing you, brother!
... Truly groundbreaking. Thank You!
Now, they're calling to defund the FBI. The "we stand with law enforcement" party has officially lost whatever little brainpower they had. https://news.yahoo.com/republican-calls-defund-fbi-boost-090008248.html.House Repubs, not Dems, voted unanimously to Defund the Police.
Repubs, not Dems, incited, fist-pumped, cheered, supported and defending a violent mob attack on the police in an attempt to maim and kill them in order to overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American democracy.
Repubs, not Dems, further encouraged more assaults, maiming and killing of the police by officially characterizing that level of violence against the police as merely "Legitimate Political Discourse. " And who among us would not encourage "Legitimate Political Discourse" at any time?
Now, Repubs, not Dems are seriously proposing to Defund the Police at the top level of the American law enforcement system.
Obviously, Mainstream Media pulled that election-winning lie about the Republican Party being more "pro Police" and the "Law and Order" Party from the same tub of steaming horse manure where they also pulled out that huge wet turd that "Republicans are better than Democrats on the economy", neither of which has been true for a single day in the past century or more.
Once again Canada caught in a lie reverts to spin to try to justify the lie. The tariffs are paid by the US consumers. Thats it. You said China paid. They didn't and don't. Just like Mexico didn't pay for the wall. So Trump hurt the farmers with his failed trade war and paid them off with funds taken from American consumers and you blame Biden for inflation when the root cause is Donnys stupid trade war and failed Covid response. Spin that!Consumers were paying $100 or 710 RMB. Chines currency was 7. 1 to USD. So Trump put 10% tariff on China goods so China devalued their currency to 6. 3 RMB to the USD so now USA consumers were buying the same product for $631 plus the 10% tariff or $694 USD. With fees consumers were still paying $100 USD for their product. USA government got about $80 tariff and Chinese companies got $80 or 10% less for their products. Yes China paid the tariffs and continue to do.
Obviously you never did business with China in your life and probably never every had a business.
And yes Biden is to blame for inflation. There was less than. 5% inflation in Trump presidency and now 9% in Biden presidency. Biden reckless spending, shutting down businesses during Covid and with his war against oil and gas inflation is almost out of control.
Yikes. It would take a lot to get me to live in a democrat shithole city. Soon the felons are going to realize they can break out of the ghetto and start committing crime in nice areas because the defunded police won't stop them; and in the unlikely event they do, the Soros-funded prosecutors and leftist activist judges will give them bail then drop the charges. Once that happens (and it's already starting), it's over.They already have. Robberies in high end communities in California are up tremendously. Rodeo Drive in LA has had numerous robberies and people have been warned to not wear jewelry or expensive watches on the streets.
Fun fact:
At a 44% Job Approval Rating, only 2 other presidents over the past 50+ years had a higher Job Approval Rating in the Gallup poll at this same point in their presidency.
They were not Reagan, 41%, and Trump, 41%.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/329384/presidential-approval-ratings-joe-biden.aspx
Speaking of polls, the Repubs' temporary uncharacteristic advantage over the Dems in those Poll of Polls Generic Ballot questions has evaporated.
As of this writing the Dems have the advantage in the FiveThirtyEight version of that poll question. As long as the demonstrably Repub-leaning RealClearPolitics site ignores some of the more recent major polls and only waits for the next Rasmussen and Trafalgar poll, their version of it has kept the Repubs with less than a 1 percentage point advantage.
Meanwhile, Biden's Job Approval Rating in the RCP Poll of Polls remains the highest of the Job Approval / Favorability for any elected official or entity that could possibly solve the massive problems Trump left behind; The Leaders of each Party in the House and Senate, all of the House, all of the Senate.
It is also higher than jobless Trump's Favorability Rating, higher than Trump's Job Approval Rating after his first full year in office. Biden also regularly beats the first and second likely Repub choice for the 2024 Repub nomination in those hypothetical Head-to-Head matches; Trump and DeSantis.
At this point, unless the Repubs really pack the state and local ballot collecting / vote counting positions with all the Repub QAnon loons they can scrape off the underside of a rock to "find" them the votes they need to steal Congressional seats, the only things they have to run on and squeak out a win here and there are the historical tradition that the Party not in the WH wins seats in Congress in the first mid-term of that Party and all the usual extreme gerrymandering they typically employ to rig the election in their favor.
No other reason.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
QB; DL.
How does one stop when Agent Orange and QAnon comradeszzzzzzLabored and lame. Like all leftist "comedy" (with the exception of the unintentional type).
There is a link to a warrant here. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/12/read-the-unsealed-doj-documents-underpinning-search-of-trumps-mar-a-lago-00051524.
The warrant is for the whole house and includes the line "any government and / or presidential record created between January 20,2017 and January 20, 2021." Tell me you Dem does that not included Trump's passport. Isn't that a government document?
And why wouldn't an order for burgers that Trump wrote on not be a government document? That is a record Trump created while in office.
Your case that a magistrate signed the warrant and therefore makes it legal is stupid. Judges get their decisions overturned all the time. The whole point of the warrant was to cut out SCOTUS.
This was a general warrant and a fishing expedition. You Dems think Trump should not have any civil rights.See'Mon., Elvis. Why do you keep leaving out important parts of documents?
The warrant specifically excludes areas of the property that are rented or are not available to be used by Donnie the Dumbass. So, no, the warrant was not for the whole house. And besides, it simply does not matter. You claim that the warrant was a "fishing expedition" but you forget that a certain part of the affidavit mentioned witnesses. Multiple witnesses. The testimony of these witnesses (who were probably just lowly service workers that Donnie the Dumbass never acknowledged) undoubtedly said that Donnie the Dumbass had some of these records moved from "place 1" to "place 2" within Mar-a-Lago. So the government couldn't be more specific than they were because had Donnie the Dumbass gotten wind of the impending raid, he'd have just had the boxes moved somewhere else. You can complain and obfuscate all you want but that's what the warrant was meant to prevent.
The warrant also enables the raid team to collect and and all documents that were stored with classified documents and presidential records. Why do you think that is? According to you, it is probably because you view the warrant as a fishing expedition. The reality is far different. See, if the boxes collected in January 2022 had been even marginally organized, perhaps the warrant could have been written differently. But the January 2022 return to NARA was haphazardly organized. So what was the DOJ supposed to assume about the remaining boxes at Mar-a-Lago that Donnie the Dumbass swore that he didn't have?
I previously tried to tell you, by providing sources, what the difference was between a "presidential record" and as "private record". You could have availed yourself of the sources I provided to educate yourself about what the differences are. You obviously did not.
You mentioned, in another post, about the raid team seizing Donnie the Dumbass' passport. Undoubtedly, the passport was dumped haphazardly into one of the boxes that were seized. I don't know about you but the last time I renewed my passport in 2017, the US Government required that I return my old passport with the $110 check. The old passport was not returned. Donnie the Dumbass had 3 passports! How did that happen? Even if his passport expired during his time in office, he should have had only 1 passport. Maybe 2, if he was issued the black-covered FSO passport. But, that FSO passport wasn't his to keep, was it?
Civil rights? Donnie the Dumbass was accorded more "rights" than he was entitled to. NARA began "negotiating" with him soon after he left office. (In truth, they shouldn't have. They should have just gone into Mar-a-Lago and taken back what Donnie the Dumbass had stolen) Donnie the Dumbass obfuscated and delayed for almost a year before he returned less than half of what he stole from the Government. Then, the Government gave him even more time to return what he illegally possessed. But he had his lawyers lie for him and say that he had nothing more to give. Hence the raid because those pesky witnesses said that he lied to the Government.
The simple fact of the matter is that you are wrong. Again.
This whole Ukraine thing is dirty. First the CIA run a coup against the elected govt in 2014, then the Washington swamp start using the place for money laundering and illegal chemical / bio-weapons labs. Then the final straw, they push their CIA puppet coup govt to enter NATO and station US military bases, nukes and the illegal bio-weapons on Russia's border just a few miles from Moscow.
There was no way Russia could stand for that. We (quite rightly) didn't stand for the Soviets stationing nukes in Cuba 60 years ago and this is very similar.
The Washington swamp wanted to provoke a war, sacrificing huge numbers of Ukrainian goyim (the Ukrainian Jews were all airlifted out by their cousin Zelensky when the war started). They thought they could collapse Russia's economy and turn Moscow to Globohomo. Red Square full of African immigrants and tranny grooming parades.
Thankfully, it backfired: Putin and Russia are winning the war with one hand tied behind their back (Russia hasn't even called up any reserves and hasn't resorted to serious bombing despite Zelensky's troops hiding among civilians in cities), and the Russian economy is going great, while Europe is in crisis and about to freeze to death this winter.
A welcome slap in the face for the neocon ZOG swamp and its murderous, nefarious goals.You believe what you want to believe which is everything pro-Russian. As a matter of fact, why don't you move to Moscow?
The truth about Ukraine in 2015 is far different. There was no "coup. " After about three months of protests and police violence against demonstrators, Ukrainian president Yanukovych fled the country to escape prosecution, was kicked out of his own party, and voted out of office, peacefully, by a majority of the democratically elected parliament, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. The largest block of parliamentarians that voted him out were his own party members and former party members. His cabinet resigned. The parliament appointed an interim government, and free and fair elections were held a few months later, despite a Russian invasion and ongoing war. The initial protests had been caused by Yanukovych abandoning a trade deal due to Russian interference, aggravated by him ramming through unconstitutional authoritarian laws with the encouragement of the Russian president, and culminating in violence publicly endorsed by the Russians.
You, of course, won't read the attached citation or, if you do, you'll, as usual, call it fake news. https://static.poder360.com.br/2022/02/2014-Coup-1.pdf.
If what you say is remotely true, why hasn't Russia invaded Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania? They share a border with Russia.
And, by the way, please lay off your MAGAt hate for LGBTQ folks and people of color. Everybody already knows that you would prefer an America for white, straight Americans only. That's the MAGAt philosophy.
This whole Ukraine thing is dirty. First the CIA run a coup against the elected govt in 2014, then the Washington swamp start using the place for money laundering and illegal chemical / bio-weapons labs. Then the final straw, they push their CIA puppet coup govt to enter NATO and station US military bases, nukes and the illegal bio-weapons on Russia's border just a few miles from Moscow.
There was no way Russia could stand for that. We (quite rightly) didn't stand for the Soviets stationing nukes in Cuba 60 years ago and this is very similar.
The Washington swamp wanted to provoke a war
Lightening can indeed strike twice. Finally I agree with smthg you wrote.
The USA government hypocrisy is deafening. They accuse Syria of terrorism, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, when the truth is they just want to steal their oil. They accuse Afgstn, Somalia, Ethiopia, All are terrorists. Really? No, the only consistent terrorist here is the USA. They terrorise the entire world, extorting countries to submit to their neo-imperialism. Yet, they have the temerity to call out other countries for invasions, even when they WERE provoked! This video demonstrates it rather well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLfrpBkX8Os
Labored and lame. Like all leftist "comedy" (with the exception of the unintentional type) QAnon right-wing political diatribe, spin and rhetoric is its own comedy or more appropriately its own political satire and worth noting as such.
After all, brother, it appears to be, truly groundbreaking work.
... Truly groundbreaking Meanwhile, Biden's job approval rises to 44%, highest in a year.
BTW, your lame attempt at liberal, leftist, laughter and alliteration, not so lame. Shows potential!
Consumers were paying $100 or 710 RMB. Chines currency was 7. 1 to USD. So Trump put 10% tariff on China goods so China devalued their currency to 6. 3 RMB to the USD so now USA consumers were buying the same product for $631 plus the 10% tariff or $694 USD. With fees consumers were still paying $100 USD for their product. USA government got about $80 tariff and Chinese companies got $80 or 10% less for their products. Yes China paid the tariffs and continue to do.
Obviously you never did business with China in your life and probably never every had a business.
And yes Biden is to blame for inflation. There was less than. 5% inflation in Trump presidency and now 9% in Biden presidency. Biden reckless spending, shutting down businesses during Covid and with his war against oil and gas inflation is almost out of control.Your knowledge of doing business in China is sorely lacking. In fact, so lacking that one might assume that it is you who has never done business with China. If you had, you'd know that every transaction in China is done in US dollars. https://www.ecomcrew.com/paying-for-your-goods/.
If the importer was paying $100 USD for something before a 10% tariff, he was paying $110 after. It makes absolutely no difference what the corresponding yuan exchange rate was because the importer was forced by China into paying for the product in USD. Why do you think that American companies said that they passed the price increase off to consumers if there was no price increase as you suggest. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/02/heres-why-us-importers-and-consumers-pay-trumps-tariffs-not-china.html and https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/business/economy/trade-war-tariffs.html and https://www.brookings.edu/policy2020/votervital/did-trumps-tariffs-benefit-american-workers-and-national-security/ and at least 100 other sources.
Once again, you are all sizzle and no steak.
Elvis 2008
08-30-22, 18:38
See'Mon., Elvis. Why do you keep leaving out important parts of documents?
The warrant specifically excludes areas of the property that are rented or are not available to be used by Donnie the Dumbass.LOL. That means nothing. You need to go back and educated yourself as to why the founding fathers outlawed general warrants.
The DOJ's own rules say they are supposed to use the least aggressive means possible to seize things. So whatever the affidavits said, they had better say that Trump threatened to destroy or move the documents. If they do not, you Dems are fucked and of course they do not and that is why the affidavits were redacted. That part, if it was there, should have been the first thing redacted, and it was not there. By the DOJ's own rules, a new subpoena should have been issued or the old subpoena should have been enforced.
You also do not know that the government has a legal advisory panel so if the issue is getting classified documents from Trump, you should let the panel research this and come up with the best and most legal way it can be done.
Was that done here? Fuck no. Garland did this all on his own. He was like, "Fuck it, let us just do a general warrant with machine guns. " Do you get how badly his ass in hanging in the wind for doing that? It was just, "I am the attorney general. I will do whatever the fuck I want. " His not doing this IMO is grounds for impeachment.
If the issue was Trump having classified documents, then the warrant, which was never needed, should have been just for classified documents. That the warrant was not limited to classified documents is a major boner as was breaking into Trump's safe.
The funny part is that the liberal press is calling for an indictment. They are even saying that the Republicans have been quiet on the issue. I told you much smarter and objective sources who do not even like Trump have asked the question, "Is this it?" after they saw the affidavit.
Unlike you, I know this is not going anywhere. Matt Taibbi has said so, but all the dumb liberal media is talking about is what Trump did wrong. If the government goes forward with this, guess who gets to decide whether the evidence gathered against Trump can be used? Eventually, it will be in the lap of SCOTUS. They can toss everything but they are not going to. They are going to accept Trump's declassification order. And after that, the government will say there is the process to declassify. SCOTUS will say, "Okay, you have a month" and then we will all see this incredibly important information the government was trying to hide was in fact the FBI just covering its ass again.
How do I know that? Trump is saying release everything, and the government is lying, saying Trump was keeping nuclear secrets. If there is a criminal case, and there will not be, those records will be seen by the public.
If it does go forward you all will try to spin this as being different with Hiliary when what she did was worse. The FBI let Hiliary go after she destroyed classified documents under subpoena and before then allowing those documents to be seen by the world. It is insane to go after Trump who can declassify practically anything versus Clinton who cannot and is the definition of a double standard.
And we have seen Hunter Biden's laptop content where he is fucking under age woman and smoking crack. And there are all the documents of his payouts from foreign governments, and Tony Bobulinski, has said on the air and certainly would sign an affidavit if asked, said that Joe Biden knew about said payouts and was selling influence. Hell, we already had the phone call of him telling Hunter all was well. There is probably enough on that laptop to put Hunter away for life, but the FBI is still "working on it". Would Trump have had to ask the Ukrainian government to investigate Hunter if the FBI were doing their fucking jobs?
Hell, we even now know the diary of pedo Joe taking showers with his daughter, who called them "probably inappropriate", was real. Yeah, the FBI has no time to charge Hunter Biden with anything but they sure had time to nail the people who stole Ashley Biden's diary.
The FBI and Garland did not issue this illegal warrant to charge Trump. They did it to get embarrassing documents. I am sorry that you do not see that. I hope they do charge him and embarrass themselves even more.
Elvis 2008
08-30-22, 20:14
This whole Ukraine thing is dirty. First the CIA run a coup against the elected govt in 2014, then the Washington swamp start using the place for money laundering and illegal chemical / bio-weapons labs. Then the final straw, they push their CIA puppet coup govt to enter NATO and station US military bases, nukes and the illegal bio-weapons on Russia's border just a few miles from Moscow.
There was no way Russia could stand for that. We (quite rightly) didn't stand for the Soviets stationing nukes in Cuba 60 years ago and this is very similar.Good summary, Chris. Yeah, Biden's last stand with Russia was when Putin asked Biden if he was willing to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Biden said no and then Putin went in. Putin had no choice, and Biden wanted war. Why do we even have NATO now?
The irony is these days most wars seem to be about energy. The whole Syria fiasco was about a natural gas pipeline through Syria from Saudi Arabia. It did not even benefit us, but we seemed to be willing to do anything to placate Saudi Arabia or we were until we became energy independent. So why are we there now when we can be supplying Europe natural gas instead of Russia or Saudi Arabia? Because Biden is pro-war, and he wants to hurt American energy companies and hand over Europe's electricity market to the Saudis.
In the mean time, Europe and especially Germany is set to freeze its asses off this winter. Prices are through the roof there, and Europe is going into recession. I wonder how those solar panels will work this winter. Was there any idea more stupid than solar power in Germany?
Every citizen there will be praying for global warming come this winter. You can't make this shit up.
Thing is I think most Republicans were willing to transition to non-polluting nuclear and near non-polluting natural gas for electricity and away from polluting coal. As long as the change was gradual, I would be all for that.
Before the move to sell LNG and natural gas prices skyrocketed, natural gas powered cars made sense. Hell, even having a second vehicle that is electric for shorter trips can make sense for some people.
But the idea we get all our power from solar and wind is beyond stupid and now we have California banning the sale of all cars that are not electric, and we have to do it to save the planet? Say what? We have had 20 years until the earth for the last 40 years now. Even Elon Musk had to come out and speak in favor of fossil fuels.
You would think we would hold these fucking scientists accountable for being wrong but like with Fauci and lockdowns, they get a pass. Can you imagine how fucked up we would be this winter if we Republicans had not stood up to these blowhards?
My God, these dumb Dems are so stupid with their virtue signaling and fucking hysteria. We do not want to catch Covid or be breathing in dirty air either but maybe the choices need not involve destroying freedom or going cold in the winter.
You believe what you want to believe which is everything pro-Russian. As a matter of fact, why don't you move to Moscow?
The truth about Ukraine in 2015 is far different. There was no "coup. " After about three months of protests and police violence against demonstrators, Ukrainian president Yanukovych fled the country to escape prosecution, was kicked out of his own party,
If what you say is remotely true, why hasn't Russia invaded Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania? They share a border with Russia.
Not sure why someone who believes the government of a particular country should go and live there. If I believed the Fijian government and Ecuadorian government, would I need dual citizenship? What if I believed many countries. Would I then be consigned to a nomadic lifestyle?
And yes, there most definiitely was a coup. The president was removed thru violence. That is a coup. The coup was supported by US and Euro countries.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/02/25/pers-f25.html
This whole Ukraine thing is dirty. First the CIA run a coup against the elected govt in 2014, then the Washington swamp start using the place for money laundering and illegal chemical / bio-weapons labs. Then the final straw, they push their CIA puppet coup govt to enter NATO and station US military bases, nukes and the illegal bio-weapons on Russia's border just a few miles from Moscow. The bio-weapons conspiracy theory holds no water. There was no "coup" but impeachment of a corrupt kleptocrat living in luxury off state coffers that backed out of an EU trade deal and used violence against demonstrators. He fled to Russia where he belongs with 37 billion in state money and was impeached by the Ukrainian parliament. No silly conspiracy theories are needed here and it was all rather predictable. The "swamp" is you while you side with Jan 6th traitors and America's historic enemies. Ukraine BTW also currently has a president elected with 75% of the vote and has a drastically higher freedom score than Russia, 61 for the former, 19 for the later.
https://freedomhouse.org/countries/freedom-world/scores
There was no way Russia could stand for that. We (quite rightly) didn't stand for the Soviets stationing nukes in Cuba 60 years ago and this is very similar. Hogwash. That's a fake analogy as unlike with the Cuban Missile Crisis no one has positioned any nuclear weapons near Russia capable of wiping our their major cities in a matter of minutes. Nor has anything of the like been proposed. Plus a number of NATO countries already border Russia and Finland is soon to be added. Russia has been very clear in the past that they want to restore empire, and stealing Ukraine's industries, farmlands, and ports would be an excellent start. All their playing victim is BS.
The Washington swamp wanted to provoke a war, sacrificing huge numbers of Ukrainian goyim (the Ukrainian Jews were all airlifted out by their cousin Zelensky when the war started). They thought they could collapse Russia's economy and turn Moscow to Globohomo. Red Square full of African immigrants and tranny grooming parades.Well let's see, Russia has an economy about the size of the state of Texas, and are dwarfed economically by the US and many western Euro countries that value diversity. In fact the greatest army on the planet, the US, is of the very most diverse entities. The Russian army though with their brilliant death trap "jack in the box" tanks and outdated equipment from the Afghan war has suffered in the range of 80 K casualties trying to conquer a much smaller neighbor. And this while gaining very little territory and turning the entire West against them while getting only lip service from China. What a disaster and how very stupid, not to mention cowardly. You need to look for a new "shining city on a hill" for your brand of conservatism. Lolol.
Thankfully, it backfired: Putin and Russia are winning the war with one hand tied behind their back..Really? Lolol Then why did they tuck tail and run from Kyiv and Kharkiv if they could have easily secured a different outcome and quickly ended the war? It would have saved many tens of thousands of Russian mothers a lot of grief. That of course excludes using nukes which would involve losing the few remaining countries that will have anything to do with them. The Russian military is so inept that they haven't been able to establish air superiority. Plus they are running low on weapons and other supplies and are going around begging for them from other countries.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-09/russia-is-shopping-around-the-world-for-military-weapons-for-its-war-in-ukraine
Not to mention that from many reports there are serious morale and logistical problems. Here's one.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/08/22/russian-paratrooper-ukraine-war-chance-putin-dnt-ebof-vpx.cnn
(Russia hasn't even called up any reserves This is false. Russia has been using reserve units.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/explainer-russian-conscription-reserve-and-mobilization
Mass mobilization of troops and industry in Russia requires a declaration of war, but that means giving up the "special military operation" scam they sold the people while losing any angle on plausible deniability regarding violation of the Budapest Memorandum.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2019/12/05/why-care-about-ukraine-and-the-budapest-memorandum/
and hasn't resorted to serious bombing despite Zelensky's troops hiding among civilians in cities),You are just parroting Russian state propaganda. No "hiding" is necessary as targeting and terrorizing civilians has long been straight out of the Russian playbook. It's how they do war, then of course they tell lies in the aftermath to justify their war crimes, ie. "Ukrainians are Nazis, NATO is after us, that theater and maternity hospital were military targets," etc.
https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/opinion/columns/2022/03/08/vladimir-putin-has-bombed-civilians-many-times-before-ukraine/9378383002/
And again they have supply problems so I refer back to the link above. Plus equipment loses have been significant.
https://ecfr.eu/article/lessons-for-the-west-russias-military-failures-in-ukraine/#text=This%20 is%20 more%20 than%20 the, armoured%20 vehicles%3 B%20 and%20200%20 aircraft.
and the Russian economy is going great, Lolol There's nothing "great" about plunging into a recession with the worst yet to come. And greatly hindered access to world markets has consequences, such as the need to cannibalize parts to keep aircraft in the air, among many others.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/02/russia-faces-economic-oblivion-despite-short-term-resilience.html
https://som.yale.edu/story/2022/chief-executive-leadership-institute-research-insights-business-retreats-and-sanctions
while Europe is in crisis and about to freeze to death this winter. No this is Putin's last card to play and it will fail. Europe has already begun the process of substitution plus the vast majority of the population has enough personal integrity to wish to make some sacrifices to be free from any hegemony from a tyrant such as Putin.
https://www.ft.com/content/c9ec6d9d-a015-402c-a06e-f61b6ad87f92
A welcome slap in the face for the neocon ZOG swamp and its murderous, nefarious goals.Again you are the swamp as you prop up and side with, and spread the propaganda of our historic enemies such as Russia. I'd also recommended that, rather than just making assertions, that you link us to your sources. We already know what they are, Russian state news and the like, some far right blogs, maybe a bit of Tucker Carlson though he's toned down some of the nonsense. But go ahead and step up. Can you stand the embarrassment?
Consumers were paying $100 or 710 RMB. Chines currency was 7. 1 to USD. So Trump put 10% tariff on China goods so China devalued their currency to 6. 3 RMB to the USD so now USA consumers were buying the same product for $631 plus the 10% tariff or $694 USD. With fees consumers were still paying $100 USD for their product. USA government got about $80 tariff and Chinese companies got $80 or 10% less for their products. Yes China paid the tariffs and continue to do.
Obviously you never did business with China in your life and probably never every had a business.
And yes Biden is to blame for inflation. There was less than. 5% inflation in Trump presidency and now 9% in Biden presidency. Biden reckless spending, shutting down businesses during Covid and with his war against oil and gas inflation is almost out of control.LOL. Well firstly let me congratulate you on admitting that the Trump trade war was a complete failure. According to you the Chinese dropped their exchange rate and by doing that the tariffs had no impact because the pricing was the same going into the US. All the pain the farmers went through requiring the huge unauthorized bailout was for nothing because all China needed to do to win the Trump disaster trade war was to drop their exchange rate.
So back to the point. Your exchange rate spin is still that. Importers paid the tax not China, Importers passed that price increase over to consumers and Trump handed those taxes over to farmers to buy their votes just like you accuse Biden of doing with student loans. Anyone with an ounce of integrity would just admit the simple facts of the matter but that is beyond you. Unless its business getting a handout or tax cut all we get from you and your ilk is rage. Guess what, you don't always get what you want, there is always a squareup when the other side is always on the wrong side of the handouts. Maybe you should consider that and support moderates instead of fascist scum.
I spent 4 years in Mongolia buy equipment from China, I am pretty familiar with Chinese business so I don't require any lessons from you.
Not sure why someone who believes the government of a particular country should go and live there. If I believed the Fijian government and Ecuadorian government, would I need dual citizenship? What if I believed many countries. Would I then be consigned to a nomadic lifestyle?
And yes, there most definiitely was a coup. The president was removed thru violence. That is a coup. The coup was supported by US and Euro countries.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/02/25/pers-f25.htmlWell maybe you should go and live in some of these countries to see what the real situation is. I first went to Kiev when the protesters were camped on Kreshatik during the orange revolution protesting the obviously rigged election in 2004. Yushenko had been poisoned with dioxin and Yanukovich had supposedly won after massive voter fraud. After a redo triggered by the Supreme Court annulling the result Yushenko won.
I married a girl from Kiev. Her parents lived in Kiev. When Yanukovich won in 2010 they we all happy, Yanukovich is a good guy, Putin is a great leader blah blah. When Yanukovich pulled out of the European trade deal on orders from Putin the people protested. Ukranians want to be close to Europe, they want the higher value trade, access to good jobs not be tied to the corrupt Russian economy. When Yanukovich brought in thugs from the east to quell the protests and started shooting protestors my wife was horrified. When other police and military refused to obey Yanukovichs illegal orders he fled.
No it was not a coup it was the people rejecting a corrupt regime. My now ex wife and her family hate Yanukovich and Putin with a passion. There are around 40 million Ukrainians who share that view. The situation today is due to the meddling of Putin ordering Yanukovich to pull out of the European trade deal and to put down the protestors. That turned supporters into die hard opponents of the majority of Ukrainians.
Regarding the bio-labs in Ukraine, these have a medical purpose, diagnostics, vaccines, treatments, etc. And by no means a military one. That's in spite of some howling from traitorous far-right podcasters and even a bit from Tucker Carlson early on. And if there was anything to this hogwash, why didn't Russia use it as a justification prior to the invasion? All we heard was whining about NATO.
https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/popular-podcasters-spread-russian-disinformation-about-ukraine-biolabs/
One thing far-right loons in the states and the Russian government have in common is this penchant for spinning out self-serving, unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. In that they are two peas in a pod, thus the bromance.
MarquisdeSade1
08-31-22, 03:38
https://www.aol.com/news/senate-gop-candidate-blake-masters-022126569.html
coming from Bidens "WOKE" DOJ/FBI not surprised at all
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fbi-sexual-abuse-children/2022/08/30/id/1085307/
Im guessing there are many friends of J Epstein and Bubba at the FBI, in SLC no less friends and/or appointees of Mittens also?
Allahu Akbar
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/ohio-supreme-court-refuses-to-hear-oberlin-colleges-appeal-to-pay-36-million-in-racism-defamation-verdict/
Good summary, Chris. Yeah, Biden's last stand with Russia was when Putin asked Biden if he was willing to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Biden said no and then Putin went in. Putin had no choice, and Biden wanted war. Why do we even have NATO now?
The irony is these days most wars seem to be about energy. The whole Syria fiasco was about a natural gas pipeline through Syria from Saudi Arabia. It did not even benefit us, but we seemed to be willing to do anything to placate Saudi Arabia or we were until we became energy independent. So why are we there now when we can be supplying Europe natural gas instead of Russia or Saudi Arabia? Because Biden is pro-war, and he wants to hurt American energy companies and hand over Europe's electricity market to the Saudis.
In the mean time, Europe and especially Germany is set to freeze its asses off this winter. Prices are through the roof there, and Europe is going into recession. I wonder how those solar panels will work this winter. Was there any idea more stupid than solar power in Germany?.If Putin invaded Ukraine because Ukraine wanted into NATO, why didn't Putin invade the 3 Baltic countries when they joined NATO? After all, Putin was President of Russia then, too. And they all share a border with Russia?
MarquisdeSade1
08-31-22, 04:46
Comedy Central strikes again! I always find it helpful to have Yakkety Sax playing in the background before reading Eihtooms latest pearls of mirth. Really gets you into the mood.Wasn't that the background score to Benny Hill chasing the hot girls around LMAO.
I loved that damn show in the 70's.
Picture if you will ET running around chasing the putas around naked in BKK with his pecker in one hand and his cellphone in the other typing out his ISG.
Pro Biden Baghdad / Bangkok Bob drivel 24/7 with his big Benny Hill grin LMAO.
MarquisdeSade1
08-31-22, 04:52
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/donald-trump-2024-the-return/2022/08/29/id/1085119/
Maybe the only good thing to come out of 8 yrs of Bubba?
But I do like Paul also.
https://nypost.com/2022/08/29/democratic-strategist-paul-begala-blasts-biden-student-loan-relief-terrible-policy/
... Whenever I try, the sheer volume of falsity, entitlement and illogic soon overwhelms me, and I am forced to retreat , eyes bleeding, to the safety and calm of the Pattaya Forum ...
Yeah, that's some safe and calm retreat, you're on over in the Pattaya forum. I was looking forward to a report or two on your Pattaya experiences, but nothing, save two (2) posts that were questions. Hmmmm....a bit disappointing, but I'll live.
Perhaps, the Pattaya forum is just a safe and calming read for the "overwhelmed". I will have to try reading the Pattaya forum, one of these days to simply calm myself.
Thanks for the tip.
Perhaps over in the Pattaya forum, I can meditate and find the meaning to "blk" and "brownies"?
Regarding the bio-labs in Ukraine, these have a medical purpose, diagnostics, vaccines, treatments, etc. And by no means a military one. That's in spite of some howling from traitorous far-right podcasters and even a bit from Tucker Carlson early on. And if there was anything to this hogwash, why didn't Russia use it as a justification prior to the invasion? All we heard was whining about NATO.
https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/popular-podcasters-spread-russian-disinformation-about-ukraine-biolabs/
One thing far-right loons in the states and the Russian government have in common is this penchant for spinning out self-serving, unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. In that they are two peas in a pod, thus the bromance.Far-right loons in the states are comrades-at-heart with Putin, his most useful Western idiot soldiers for his anti-American agenda, on orders from his best useful idiot ever, Donald J. Trump.
And on the racist winger grievance front championed by Tucker Carlson and other winger spokesmen, far-right loons in the states have for years mimicked, shared and styled their tone and talking points from the other great anti-American force in the world, China:
Right-wing populism with Chinese characteristics? Identity, otherness and global imaginaries in debating world politics online
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1354066119850253
For all that phony flag hugging and Pledge of Allegiance mumbling, supporters of the Repub Party have finally been revealed to be nothing more than devoted traitorous Russian agents and passionate mouth pieces for the Communist Chinese mindset.
The Feds filed another nail in Donnie the Dumbass' coffin last night just before midnight Eastern Daylight Time.
To support the filing, the Feds took pictures of some of the boxes that Donnie the Dumbass had at Mar-a-Lago. I tried to attach the photo to quiet those members of the moron brigade who say that Donnie the Dumbass didn't have any classified material. It was in the wrong format so I have included an article with the photo instead. https://news.yahoo.com/us-respond-request-special-master-151511326.html.
And to those members of the moron brigade who claim that Donnie the Dumbass cooperated fully with the Feds, the following source shoots massive holes into that argument. https://news.yahoo.com/timeline-fbi-search-of-trumps-mar-a-lago-estate-followed-a-monthslong-probe-193531150.html.
To those members of the moron brigade who claim that Donnie the Dumbass had a "standing order to declassify everything", there's this: "the claim that Trump had a standing declassification order has been widely disputed by members of his own administration. CNN spoke to 18 former Trump administration officials who said they had never heard of any such order, some calling the claim "nonsense" and "bullshit. "" The source is from the above citation.
And finally, to the remaining members of the moron brigade who still claim that Donnie the Dumbass actually did declassify the documents in the photo, please answer the following questions. If the documents actually were declassified, that means that anybody in the entire world ought to have access to them. Do you agree? And furthermore, if the documents in question were declassified, why did Donnie the Dumbass have them? They are part of the public record and he was illegally in possession of them.
Well maybe you should go and live in some of these countries to see what the real situation is.
No it was not a coup it was the people rejecting a corrupt regime.You are using the same fallacy that PVM used and I highlighted. You suppose that living in a place gives you a greater insight in to a reality. If that were the case, then we would see that USAns have a clearer understanding of the reality of the 2019 Trump / Biden election result than foreigners. This is clearly not the case; in fact the opposite is true. The same can be said about the Apartheid era in South Africa where the majority of white people did not accept that the conservative government was murdering and torturing black people. Same in Nazi Germany. The list is endless and conclusively debunks your point. The truth is you are far more likely to be propagandized by those around you.
Of course it was a coup. Your statement merely shows you do not understand what a coup is. People rejecting a corrupt regime would not exclude a coup.
You are using the same fallacy that PVM used and I highlighted. You suppose that living in a place gives you a greater insight in to a reality. If that were the case, then we would see that USAns have a clearer understanding of the reality of the 2019 Trump / Biden election result than foreigners. This is clearly not the case; in fact the opposite is true. The same can be said about the Apartheid era in South Africa where the majority of white people did not accept that the conservative government was murdering and torturing black people. Same in Nazi Germany. The list is endless and conclusively debunks your point. The truth is you are far more likely to be propagandized by those around you.
Of course it was a coup. Your statement merely shows you do not understand what a coup is. People rejecting a corrupt regime would not exclude a coup.No it wasn't a coup. Yanukovich illegally ordered the murder of civilian protesters. Fleeing arrest is not a coup. I was an outsider I had no stake in the process. You and a couple of the right wing loons here would be the only people to consider that a coup.
Yep.
It is very likely that either the "video surveillance footage" of the Mar-a-Lago storage room where Donnie the Dumbass kept his illegally obtained classified information or witness testimony, led the DOJ to believe that Donnie the Dumbass had records moved from the storage room to other parts of his residence. "The government also developed evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed from the Storage Room and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government's investigation," the department said in a filing in USA District Court in the Southern District of Florida. https://news.yahoo.com/u-justice-dept-responds-trump-033151965.html.
And furthermore, the Government says that Donnie the Dumbass brought all of this on himself. Had he just returned the classified documents as requested, none of this would have happened. Which begs the question, did Donnie the Dumbass purposely withhold the documents to see what the DOJ would do? https://news.yahoo.com/justice-department-offers-scathing-response-035001888.html.
The moron brigade will, however, try to spin this. Probably with a "but the search warrant" or "but her emails" deflection.
You are using the same fallacy that PVM used and I highlighted. You suppose that living in a place gives you a greater insight in to a reality. If that were the case, then we would see that USAns have a clearer understanding of the reality of the 2019 Trump / Biden election result than foreigners. This is clearly not the case; in fact the opposite is true. The same can be said about the Apartheid era in South Africa where the majority of white people did not accept that the conservative government was murdering and torturing black people. Same in Nazi Germany. The list is endless and conclusively debunks your point. The truth is you are far more likely to be propagandized by those around you.
Of course it was a coup. Your statement merely shows you do not understand what a coup is. People rejecting a corrupt regime would not exclude a coup.You are ascribing to me an argument I didn't use. What I think I said was that the OP to whom I was replying loved posting pro-Russian propaganda so much that he ought to live in Russia. What I believe I didn't say was that living in Russia gives somebody a greater insight into reality.
BTW, 81 million folks from the USA have a very clear understanding of what happened in the 2019 presidential election. 74 million do not.
DramaFree11
08-31-22, 16:07
Regarding the bio-labs in Ukraine, these have a medical purpose, diagnostics, vaccines, treatments, etc. And by no means a military one. That's in spite of some howling from traitorous far-right podcasters and even a bit from Tucker Carlson early on. And if there was anything to this hogwash, why didn't Russia use it as a justification prior to the invasion? All we heard was whining about NATO.
https://www.brookings.edu/techstream/popular-podcasters-spread-russian-disinformation-about-ukraine-biolabs/
One thing far-right loons in the states and the Russian government have in common is this penchant for spinning out self-serving, unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. In that they are two peas in a pod, thus the bromance.Pauline I have ask you several times if you have been to Ukraine, but you never bother to answer. Why start dealing in reality now. Ukraine was a shit show and one of the most corrupt countries in the world, but you conveniently leave this out off all your ridiculous posts. Did they deserve to be invaded no, but they also did nothing to deescalate tension with Russia, honestly the provoked Russia.
This war needs to end, just a total disaster for everyone. You never talk about this. Ukraine was a bad place, but you think Colombia is paradise. You have very low standards.
MarquisdeSade1
08-31-22, 16:50
They already have. Robberies in high end communities in California are up tremendously. Rodeo Drive in LA has had numerous robberies and people have been warned to not wear jewelry or expensive watches on the streets.How very apropos for the 3rd world.
You are ascribing to me an argument I didn't use. What I think I said was that the OP to whom I was replying loved posting pro-Russian propaganda so much that he ought to live in Russia. What I believe I didn't say was that living in Russia gives somebody a greater insight into reality.
I didn't write that in response to your post. To you, I wrote: "Not sure why someone who believes the government of a particular country should go and live there. If I believed the Fijian government and Ecuadorian government, would I need dual citizenship? What if I believed many countries. Would I then be consigned to a nomadic lifestyle?
This was in response to you suggesting that someone go and live in a countyr if they believe in that country's government.
No it wasn't a coup. Yanukovich illegally ordered the murder of civilian protesters. Fleeing arrest is not a coup. I was an outsider I had no stake in the process. You and a couple of the right wing loons here would be the only people to consider that a coup.Practically everyone in the world agrees it was a coup. Only some NATO members and other interested parties do not. If you read the mainstream media, you consume the propaganda from the NATO countries, so your propagandized.
"Fleeing arrest is not a coup" - what nonsense! That is one of the mostly likely outcomes of a coup. Either the sitting president is arrested and thrown in jail (occassionally executed), or he flees.
Yakety Sax? Pure gold. Wasn't that the background score to Benny Hill chasing the hot girls around LMAO.
I loved that damn show in the 70's... Considering this is mainly a "pussy" forum, where we literally come to "run around and chase" hot women, (even if some of us do it in, "Trumperfied shithole" cites/countries), what better theme music would there be....duh!
While most dudes come here to mainly chase pussy and share their experiences, other dudes not so much!
So, play on yakety sax "Benny Hill", play on! (....kkkk! Very ISG apt, almost to a fault!).
BTW, 81 million folks from the USA have a very clear understanding of what happened in the 2019 presidential election. 74 million do not.Exactly. I much lower percentage than in foreign countries.
Pauline I have ask you several times if you have been to Ukraine, but you never bother to answer. Why start dealing in reality now. Ukraine was a shit show and one of the most corrupt countries in the world, but you conveniently leave this out off all your ridiculous posts. Did they deserve to be invaded no, but they also did nothing to deescalate tension with Russia, honestly the provoked Russia.
This war needs to end, just a total disaster for everyone. You never talk about this. Ukraine was a bad place, but you think Colombia is paradise. You have very low standards.GDreams' post answered all of your questions re: Ukraine. I don't know how to point to it so I'll copy-and-paste what he said: "Well maybe you should go and live in some of these countries to see what the real situation is. I first went to Kiev when the protesters were camped on Kreshatik during the orange revolution protesting the obviously rigged election in 2004. Yushenko had been poisoned with dioxin and Yanukovich had supposedly won after massive voter fraud. After a redo triggered by the Supreme Court annulling the result Yushenko won.
I married a girl from Kiev. Her parents lived in Kiev. When Yanukovich won in 2010 they we all happy, Yanukovich is a good guy, Putin is a great leader blah blah. When Yanukovich pulled out of the European trade deal on orders from Putin the people protested. Ukranians want to be close to Europe, they want the higher value trade, access to good jobs not be tied to the corrupt Russian economy. When Yanukovich brought in thugs from the east to quell the protests and started shooting protestors my wife was horrified. When other police and military refused to obey Yanukovichs illegal orders he fled.
No it was not a coup it was the people rejecting a corrupt regime. My now ex wife and her family hate Yanukovich and Putin with a passion. There are around 40 million Ukrainians who share that view. The situation today is due to the meddling of Putin ordering Yanukovich to pull out of the European trade deal and to put down the protestors. That turned supporters into die hard opponents of the majority of Ukrainians. ".
That Ukraine was a shit show at one point in time has absolutely no bearing on them now. Case in point, if you see interviews of Donnie the Dumbass from the 70's, he sounds like a more-or-less normal human being. Now he sounds like a raving lunatic. Actually, he is a raving lunatic. Just like his supporters.
No it wasn't a coup. Yanukovich illegally ordered the murder of civilian protesters. Fleeing arrest is not a coup. I was an outsider I had no stake in the process. You and a couple of the right wing loons here would be the only people to consider that a coup.Wingnuts would probably call what happened in Romania to Ceaucescu a coup as well. The only thing they don't see as a "coup" is what happened in January 6th, 2020. How they believe that a bunch of Democrats dressed up like dumper morons to protest an election that they won is beyond me. But, then again, most of what wingers believe is beyond me.
But there's always this https://www.thebulwark.com/what-really-happened-in-ukraine-in-2014-and-since-then/.
LOL. Well firstly let me congratulate you on admitting that the Trump trade war was a complete failure. According to you the Chinese dropped their exchange rate and by doing that the tariffs had no impact because the pricing was the same going into the US. All the pain the farmers went through requiring the huge unauthorized bailout was for nothing because all China needed to do to win the Trump disaster trade war was to drop their exchange rate.
So back to the point. Your exchange rate spin is still that. Importers paid the tax not China, Importers passed that price increase over to consumers and Trump handed those taxes over to farmers to buy their votes just like you accuse Biden of doing with student loans. Anyone with an ounce of integrity would just admit the simple facts of the matter but that is beyond you. Unless its business getting a handout or tax cut all we get from you and your ilk is rage. Guess what, you don't always get what you want, there is always a squareup when the other side is always on the wrong side of the handouts. Maybe you should consider that and support moderates instead of fascist scum.
I spent 4 years in Mongolia buy equipment from China, I am pretty familiar with Chinese business so I don't require any lessons from you.Obviously you are not a businessman that did business with China. At least not on the financial side. I did over $200 million dollars with China over 10 years importing into USA, Canada and Kazakhstan. Paid millions on anti dumping tariffs but still charged our customers a lower price because China devalued their currency. The factories and workers get paid in RMB. When we purchased $1,000,000 RMB of product before devalation we paid $158,478 USD. After devaluing their currency we paid $140,845 USD. We paid the 10% so our total cost was $154,930 which allowed us to sell to our customers at the same price we had before the tariffs. But under Trump tarriffs the USA government collected billions, China factories got billions less. With the trade war farmers lost business. Trump just made sure that the farmers were not hurt and gave them a small percentage of what he collected.
You obviously need lessons from somebody because you never learned anything from your supposed business.
Biden politics. Give money away to buy votes for next election. Let next president figure out a way to pay for it. White House yesterday finally admitted that there was no plan on how to pay for their latest giveaway of billions of dollars to dead beat democrats who got a BS degree in 8 years of college, won't pay the money back and can't get a job now.
The truth about Ukraine in 2015 is far different. There was no "coup. " So I guess the then-CIA director John Brennan just happened to be in Kiev on holiday at the time of the coup? Boy, what a coincidence!
Oh, and then there's the leaked recording of the phonecall between Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US ambassador to Ukraine, in which they discuss who is to be the figurehead of their puppet government: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-ukraine-tape-idUSBREA1601G20140207.
No outside interference at all. Entirely organic. And Joe Biden has the sharpest mind in Washington.
Lightening can indeed strike twice. Finally I agree with smthg you wrote.
The USA government hypocrisy is deafening. They accuse Syria of terrorism, Libya, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, when the truth is they just want to steal their oil. They accuse Afgstn, Somalia, Ethiopia, All are terrorists. Really? No, the only consistent terrorist here is the USA. They terrorise the entire world, extorting countries to submit to their neo-imperialism. Yet, they have the temerity to call out other countries for invasions, even when they WERE provoked! This video demonstrates it rather well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLfrpBkX8OsYou're a better poster than the standard wacko left dem douches because you don't deny the reality of the terrible problems caused by the nefarious Washington swamp. Unfortunately, your solutions are ridiculous communist bullshit which wouldn't fix anything. But halfway is better than nothing. You aren't a completely lost cause.
No it wasn't a coup. Yanukovich illegally ordered the murder of civilian protesters..Yanukovich was the legitimately elected president. He was not removed via constitutional means but via a violent mob.
The irony is quite astonishing, and yet another example of the cognitive dissonance of the fake news-brainwashed wacko left dem douches: you claim Jan 6, in which some unarmed people walked peacefully through open doors, waved in by cops, took some selfies and left, to be an "insurrection" and "attempted coup; but you call the Ukraine coup, in which an armed, violent mob, organized and directed by CIA Director John Brennan who was in Kiev at the time, stormed govt buildings by force and killed several people, to be a legitimate transfer of power.
The hypocrisy, mendacity and lack of any connection to reality of these leftists is quite something to behold.
Wasn't that the background score to Benny Hill chasing the hot girls around LMAO.
I loved that damn show in the 70's.
Picture if you will ET running around chasing the putas around naked in BKK with his pecker in one hand and his cellphone in the other typing out his ISG.
Pro Biden Baghdad / Bangkok Bob drivel 24/7 with his big Benny Hill grin LMAO.Ha! Actually laughed out loud.
Yeah, that's some safe and calm retreat, you're on over in the Pattaya forum. I was looking forward to a report or two on your Pattaya experiences,Scouring through my old posts now? No doubt up all night thinking about me too. Thank god this forum is anonymous or I imagine you'd be showing up at my house.
https://www.aol.com/news/senate-gop-candidate-blake-masters-022126569.html
coming from Bidens "WOKE" DOJ/FBI not surprised at all
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/fbi-sexual-abuse-children/2022/08/30/id/1085307/
Im guessing there are many friends of J Epstein and Bubba at the FBI, in SLC no less friends and/or appointees of Mittens also?
Allahu Akbar
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/ohio-supreme-court-refuses-to-hear-oberlin-colleges-appeal-to-pay-36-million-in-racism-defamation-verdict/Yup. Masters is correct, and not only about the Fed. Affirmative action and woke tranny bullshit is harming military recruitment too. Not surprising when you look at recent recruitment ads and the woke pronouncements of General "Thoroughly Modern" Millie.
The latte-sipping genderfluid soyboys and insta*****s they seem to be targeting are never going to join in up (they might break a nail or an eyelash), and most immigrants don't give a shit about the country except for what they can get out of it, so why would they risk their lives for it? All it does is discourage the tough, masculine heritage American men who make up the backbone of the force.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/26/exclusive-qualified-air-force-academy-applicants-drop-46-amid-recruiting-crisis/
Well let's see, Russia has an economy about the size of the state of Texas, and are dwarfed economically by the US and many western Euro countries that value diversity. In fact the greatest army on the planet, the US, is of the very most diverse entities. The Russian army though with their brilliant death trap "jack in the box" tanks and outdated equipment from the Afghan war has suffered in the range of 80 K casualties trying to conquer a much smaller neighbor.LOL. Imagine actually unironically doing the "diversity is our strength" schtick in 2022. See my previous post for how diversity is destroying the US military. And imagine mentioning Afghanistan when trying to hype up the US military. Yes, the same Afghanistan that just inflicted the most humiliating defeat and retreat in the history of said military.
Really? Lolol Then why did they tuck tail and run from KyivAgain, an ignorant Western fake news-washed take. The Kiev (not "Kyiv") fake attack was a short-term feint to tie down huge numbers of Ukrainian troops while Russia and the DPR and LPR forces carried out important maneouvres in the east. The tiny number of troops deployed by Russia show that they never intended to capture the city. They don't want Kiev; they want the Russian-speaking areas in the south and east.
Not to mention that from many reports there are serious morale and logistical problems. Here's one.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/08/22/russian-paratrooper-ukraine-war-chance-putin-dnt-ebof-vpx.cnnROFL. One single goofy doofus on fake news CNN. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a crisis actor.
This is false. Russia has been using reserve units.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/explainer-russian-conscription-reserve-and-mobilization
Mass mobilization of troops and industry in Russia requires a declaration of war, but that means giving up the "special military operation"What? First you say Russia is mobilizing, then you say they aren't mobilizing because they haven't declared war. Get your story straight, doofus.
The reality is that Russia has gone in soft, with an undermanned force, and a very limited bombing campaign. They could have turned the whole of Ukraine to rubble as the US did in Iraq, but they haven't.
You are just parroting Russian state propaganda. No "hiding" is necessaryAmnesty International just released a report stating that Ukrainian troops are hiding behind human shields. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/.
"Ukrainian forces have put civilians in harm's way by establishing bases and operating weapons systems in populated residential areas, including in schools and hospitals.
Such tactics violate international humanitarian law and endanger civilians, as they turn civilian objects into military targets.
"We have documented a pattern of Ukrainian forces putting civilians at risk and violating the laws of war when they operate in populated areas," said Agnès Callamard, Amnesty International's Secretary General. ".
I'll accept your grovelling apology tomorrow.
The rest of your fake news rubbish is barely worth looking at. Europe is having an energy crisis so bad that German ministers are telling people to wipe themselves with a damp towel instead of taking a shower. Energy prices have skyrocketed and people will die of cold this winter as they cannot afford both eating and heating.
And your 80 k Russian deaths figure is laughably absurd. There are hardly that many Russian troops there. They are winning all the same.
As for our enemy, the real enemy of the heritage American people is the Washington swamp. Putin didn't open our borders or cut our kids' dicks off. (Protip: whenever there's a conflict, the side with child trannies are the bad guys).
Good summary, Chris. Yeah, Biden's last stand with Russia was when Putin asked Biden if he was willing to keep Ukraine out of NATO. Biden said no and then Putin went in. Putin had no choice, and Biden wanted war. Why do we even have NATO now?
The irony is these days most wars seem to be about energy. The whole Syria fiasco was about a natural gas pipeline through Syria from Saudi Arabia. It did not even benefit us, but we seemed to be willing to do anything to placate Saudi Arabia or we were until we became energy independent. So why are we there now when we can be supplying Europe natural gas instead of Russia or Saudi Arabia? Because Biden is pro-war, and he wants to hurt American energy companies and hand over Europe's electricity market to the Saudis.
In the mean time, Europe and especially Germany is set to freeze its asses off this winter. Prices are through the roof there, and Europe is going into recession. I wonder how those solar panels will work this winter. Was there any idea more stupid than solar power in Germany?
Every citizen there will be praying for global warming come this winter. You can't make this shit up.
Thing is I think most Republicans were willing to transition to non-polluting nuclear and near non-polluting natural gas for electricity and away from polluting coal. As long as the change was gradual, I would be all for that.
Before the move to sell LNG and natural gas prices skyrocketed, natural gas powered cars made sense. Hell, even having a second vehicle that is electric for shorter trips can make sense for some people.
But the idea we get all our power from solar and wind is beyond stupid and now we have California banning the sale of all cars that are not electric, and we have to do it to save the planet? Say what? We have had 20 years until the earth for the last 40 years now. Even Elon Musk had to come out and speak in favor of fossil fuels.
You would think we would hold these fucking scientists accountable for being wrong but like with Fauci and lockdowns, they get a pass. Can you imagine how fucked up we would be this winter if we Republicans had not stood up to these blowhards?
My God, these dumb Dems are so stupid with their virtue signaling and fucking hysteria. We do not want to catch Covid or be breathing in dirty air either but maybe the choices need not involve destroying freedom or going cold in the winter.Yes, the sensible thing would have been to say that Ukraine wouldn't join NATO, but continue integrating it toward the West. Russia wouldn't have had a casus belli. They hadn't invaded in the 8 years since the 2014 CIA coup so there was no reason they would have without the NATO idiocy.
The swamp got greedy. They thought they could take out Putin and get Russia into the Globohomo system. Instead, they have made Putin more popular than ever, made the Russian military battle-hardened, and by moronically increasing the price of Russia's oil and gas made Russia's economy stronger while the West enters recession and double-digit inflation. And they're losing the war too. It reminds me of that clown continually stepping on rakes which smack him in the face.
As for power, solar and wind are bullshit. The cost (financial and "carbon") to construct those massive windmills is vast, and they only work for a few years (killing vast numbers of birds) before they give up the ghost and have to be taken down and disposed of. The whole thing is a big grift where favored companies (probably friends of Biden and Pelosi) get huge taxpayer-funded govt grants for their worthless shit that doesn't work. Michael Moore, of all people, produced a surprisingly good film about the renewables scam called Planet of the Humans.
MarquisdeSade1
08-31-22, 23:24
You are ascribing to me an argument I didn't use. What I think I said was that the OP to whom I was replying loved posting pro-Russian propaganda so much that he ought to live in Russia. What I believe I didn't say was that living in Russia gives somebody a greater insight into reality.
BTW, 81 million folks from the USA have a very clear understanding of what happened in the 2019 presidential election. 74 million do not.I've been to Russia a few times and can say its the closest thing to Heaven on Earth.
I wish I could live there, the only thing that sucks is the weather.
You won't find better people anywhere on this shithole planet!!
Elvis 2008
08-31-22, 23:51
Yep.
It is very likely that either the "video surveillance footage" of the Mar-a-Lago storage room where Donnie the Dumbass kept his illegally obtained classified information or witness testimony, led the DOJ to believe that Donnie the Dumbass had records moved from the storage room to other parts of his residence. "The government also developed evidence that government records were likely concealed and removed from the Storage Room and that efforts were likely taken to obstruct the government's investigation," the department said in a filing in USA District Court in the Southern District of Florida. https://news.yahoo.com/u-justice-dept-responds-trump-033151965.html.I told you that you had to have threats of the documents being destroyed to justify a warrant. Documents were moved around? Big fucking deal. A warrant is a massive and unjustified overreaction to that.
And furthermore, the Government says that Donnie the Dumbass brought all of this on himself. Had he just returned the classified documents as requested, none of this would have happened. Which begs the question, did Donnie the Dumbass purposely withhold the documents to see what the DOJ would do? https://news.yahoo.com/justice-department-offers-scathing-response-035001888.html.LOL. The FBI stepped on its dick again. Taking photos of classified information (as the FBI just did) is illegal. As Trump said, it is good thing he declassified them or whomever took that photo belongs in jail.
The moron brigade will, however, try to spin this. Probably with a "but the search warrant" or "but her emails" deflection.You are the moron because you still do not get it. Did anyone dispute there were documents marked as classified? No one I know did, so what is the point of showing the photo? Here is a hint. The FBI is getting desperate.
Why did the FBI and DOJ react like this? Because Trump wanted a "special master" to look at the documents. A "special master" is a an objective third party like a former judge who will review the documents and the FBI and DOJ are vehemently opposed to an independent third party looking at them. Gee, I wonder why.
Your Yahoo article was practically written by the FBI, and this is so stupid I cannot believe you buy it. "Even if Trump did, in fact, declassify all of the documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago, it might not make a difference. Legal experts have pointed out that none of the criminal provisions listed in the FBI's search warrant as the basis of their investigation have anything to do with whether or not the materials in question were classified. ".
So they possibly illegally take a photo of classified information and now say that documents being classified does not matter? LOL. That is the brilliant FBI for you.
If the documents actually were declassified, that means that anybody in the entire world ought to have access to them. Do you agree? And furthermore, if the documents in question were declassified, why did Donnie the Dumbass have them? They are part of the public record and he was illegally in possession of them.Are you really that dumb? How many times has Trump gone to war with the FBI, and you dumb Dems have taken the FBI's side and lost? Trump said the FBI spied on him during his campaign. You dumb Dems say there was no way that happen. Yeah, it was true. He fires Comey for fucking with his administration. You guys declare that an outrage then Comey admits he was doing just that. Hell, Comey even leaked a document (funny like Hiliary he was not prosecuted either. Gee why was that?
This latest outrage was because the FBI does not want anyone seeing those documents. Obviously, you missed that part. And hell yeah, if the documents have been declassified and belong to us, I sure as hell want to see them and what all this fuss is about. Now the content of the documents will be known to someone else.
You must be in favor of the National Archives and FBI keeping documents where the FBI fucked up from public eyes. Yeah, you government loving Democratic morons think our government never fucks up. That is why having amnesia in part of being a Dem.
And the two latest Garland initiatives. We are going to wait until after the mid terms to decide on criminal activity. HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yeah, this was not a political move but we are waiting until after the midterm elections before doing anything. Remember Garland is not on SCOTUS due to Trump, no conflict there.
And the other is FBI agents can no longer go to political functions. This is so Garland. We want to try to not appear to be political even though everyone knows we are.
I told you the purpose of this was never to prosecute Trump but get the documents because they make the FBI look like shit and now someone is going to get to see what they are. You are just so stupidly anti-Trump you do not see it.
What you do not get is that federal law is so broad that you can nail anyone for anything, and that is why it is super important to have an objective and consistent law enforcement which we do not have.
You are so stupid you probably buy the line that DOJ is looking into Hunter Biden and waiting to make its case. What a crock. Hunter incriminates himself on his own fucking laptop. There is no "making the case". Just like sitting on the Trump case for political purposes, the DOJ is doing the same damned thing with Hunter.
ScatManDoo
08-31-22, 23:53
LOL. That means nothing. You need to go back and educated yourself as to why the founding fathers outlawed general warrants.
The DOJ's own rules say they are supposed to use the least aggressive means possible to seize things. So whatever the affidavits said, they had better say that Trump threatened to destroy or move the documents. If they do not, you Dems are fucked and of course they do not and that is why the affidavits were redacted. Wrong wrong wrong Fat Elvis. The FBI pulled over 300 classified documents out of the criminal headquarters at Mar-a-Lago.
Double Agent TrumpShit had Top Secret Files in his desk.
Double Agent TrumpShit had Top Secret files in a box in his bedroom. In the TrumpShit safe too.
Double Agent TrumpShit even had torn-up TS reading materials by his personal toilet, waiting for the next flushes.
The Dems are not fucked. Rather Elvira's argument is fucked over 300 ways, along with TrumpShit.
You also do not know that the government has a legal advisory panel so if the issue is getting classified documents from Trump, you should let the panel research this and come up with the best and most legal way it can be done.
The FBI's legal search warrant seems adequate for now. Your panties getting all bunched up about it is just a bonus.
The funny part is that the liberal press is calling for an indictment. They are even saying that the Republicans have been quiet on the issue. I told you much smarter and objective sources who do not even like Trump have asked the question, "Is this it?" after they saw the affidavit.Who cares about an op-ed piece by a newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch?
Unlike you, I know this is not going anywhere.Unlike blind, fat Elvis, I know the indictment of TrumpShit is coming soon. Maybe not soon enough for me to win my bet on Predictit that Shit gets indicted by September 1st, but soon in time anyways.
Double Agent TrumpShit will no longer keep selling our secrets to foreigners.
TrumpShit's is a criminal, and he's going to jail.
Scouring through my old posts now? ... What, with all of 30 seconds, to search and read nothing. I can't say I was surprised to find a "big fat nothing", coming from someone who regularly posts "much ado about nothing".
So it's not hard to see why the Pattaya thread is so "calming" to you, as it isn't cluttered with your standard QAnon rubbish or your typical "Trumperfied shithole" cites and countries, drivel.
No it wasn't a coup. Yanukovich illegally ordered the murder of civilian protesters. Fleeing arrest is not a coup. I was an outsider I had no stake in the process. You and a couple of the right wing loons here would be the only people to consider that a coup.Wingnuts would probably call what happened in Romania to Ceaucescu a coup as well. The only thing they don't see as a "coup" is what happened in January 6th, 2020. How they believe that a bunch of Democrats dressed up like dumper morons to protest an election that they won is beyond me. But, then again, most of what wingers believe is beyond me.
But there's always this https://www.thebulwark.com/what-really-happened-in-ukraine-in-2014-and-since-then/.Both spot on.
But, don't you know, Jan 6th's coup, was just a test run and the QAnon Quackery, aims to get it right in 2024, now that they "think", they know what a "real" coup should look like.
Wrong wrong wrong Fat Elvis. The FBI pulled over 300 classified documents out of the criminal headquarters at Mar-a-Lago.
Double Agent TrumpShit had Top Secret Files in his desk.The most telling thing about the wingnuts is that they never ever ever (and did I mention ever?) even tried to explain why Trump needed all these top-secret documents in the first place.
Forget even the security issues for a moment.
Why?
No seriously, wingnuts -- why?
Why did the man who's been so cozy with Putler that he went to talk to him without an interpreter, who has called him a genius for invading a country and killing tens of thousands civilians -- why did he keep classified documents in his fancy timeshare resort?
What other USA Presidents have done anything like that?
There is only one reasonable explanation: his relationship with Vlad the Impaler ain't over. That would explain why he felt the risk of exposure and even criminal prosecution would be worth keeping his boss happy.
Both spot on.
But, don't you know, Jan 6th's coup, was just a test run and the QAnon Quackery, aims to get it right in 2024, now that they "think", they know what a "real" coup should look like.The House Repubs voted unanimously to Defund the State and Local Police, then tried to pull the wool over our eyes by claiming, "Oh, no. We were just voting against all those other things in the legislation that Americans want their tax money to provide."
Until they got caught now demanding to Defund the Nation's Top Cops, the FBI, as a stand alone Repub wish!
In the interim, there they were organizing, inciting, cheering, saluting then defending and praising their violent mob of cop-attacking, maiming and killing traitors against American democracy.
But that wasn't enough cop-attacking, maiming and killing for Repubs. So, naturally, they decided to officially label murderous violence against the Police as 'Legitimate Political Discourse' in a sick and twisted ploy to encourage and invite every American to attack, maim and kill cops as though it was their patriotic duty to do so!
Ultimately, they can no longer claim to be the 'Law and Order' Party with a shred of truth to it since that pattern has been chiseled in the granite of history. Nor can they claim to be 'Tough on Crime' when their all-time most beloved lord and savior Repub Party Leader is himself a criminal.
Must-See TV:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AnvNxx_JgvU
Tough on Crime
Practically everyone in the world agrees it was a coup. Only some NATO members and other interested parties do not. If you read the mainstream media, you consume the propaganda from the NATO countries, so your propagandized.
"Fleeing arrest is not a coup" - what nonsense! That is one of the mostly likely outcomes of a coup. Either the sitting president is arrested and thrown in jail (occassionally executed), or he flees.No not even close to everyone in the world thinks it was as coup. By your definition Richard Nixons removal from office was a coup, Boris Johnson was a coup? I guess Sth Korea has had several coups. Well by your definition not by the standards normal people work by. Coups are the taking of power by unelected people. Ukrainians had the Rada install a president followed by an election. The position and title was not seized as in a coup.
Here you go. The top secret documents the FBI desperately wanted from the Trump house along with the affidavit showing justification for the action! LOL.
I told you that you had to have threats of the documents being destroyed to justify a warrant. Documents were moved around? Big fucking deal. A warrant is a massive and unjustified overreaction to that.
LOL. The FBI stepped on its dick again. Taking photos of classified information (as the FBI just did) is illegal. As Trump said, it is good thing he declassified them or whomever took that photo belongs in jail.
You are the moron because you still do not get it. Did anyone dispute there were documents marked as classified? No one I know did, so what is the point of showing the photo? Here is a hint. The FBI is getting desperate.
Why did the FBI and DOJ react like this? Because Trump wanted a "special master" to look at the documents. A "special master" is a an objective third party like a former judge who will review the documents and the FBI and DOJ are vehemently opposed to an independent third party looking at them. Gee, I wonder why.
Your Yahoo article was practically written by the FBI, and this is so stupid I cannot believe you buy it. "Even if Trump did, in fact, declassify all of the documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago, it might not make a difference. Legal experts have pointed out that none of the criminal provisions listed in the FBI's search warrant as the basis of their investigation have anything to do with whether or not the materials in question were classified. ".
So they possibly illegally take a photo of classified information and now say that documents being classified does not matter? LOL. That is the brilliant FBI for you.
Are you really that dumb? How many times has Trump gone to war with the FBI, and you dumb Dems have taken the FBI's side and lost? Trump said the FBI spied on him during his campaign. You dumb Dems say there was no way that happen. Yeah, it was true. He fires Comey for fucking with his administration. You guys declare that an outrage then Comey admits he was doing just that. Hell, Comey even leaked a document (funny like Hiliary he was not prosecuted either. Gee why was that?
This latest outrage was because the FBI does not want anyone seeing those documents. Obviously, you missed that part. And hell yeah, if the documents have been declassified and belong to us, I sure as hell want to see them and what all this fuss is about. Now the content of the documents will be known to someone else.
You must be in favor of the National Archives and FBI keeping documents where the FBI fucked up from public eyes. Yeah, you government loving Democratic morons think our government never fucks up. That is why having amnesia in part of being a Dem.
And the two latest Garland initiatives. We are going to wait until after the mid terms to decide on criminal activity. HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yeah, this was not a political move but we are waiting until after the midterm elections before doing anything. Remember Garland is not on SCOTUS due to Trump, no conflict there.
And the other is FBI agents can no longer go to political functions. This is so Garland. We want to try to not appear to be political even though everyone knows we are.
I told you the purpose of this was never to prosecute Trump but get the documents because they make the FBI look like shit and now someone is going to get to see what they are. You are just so stupidly anti-Trump you do not see it.
What you do not get is that federal law is so broad that you can nail anyone for anything, and that is why it is super important to have an objective and consistent law enforcement which we do not have.
You are so stupid you probably buy the line that DOJ is looking into Hunter Biden and waiting to make its case. What a crock. Hunter incriminates himself on his own fucking laptop. There is no "making the case". Just like sitting on the Trump case for political purposes, the DOJ is doing the same damned thing with Hunter.
California residents are reacting to mixed messages from California leadership, as the state is asking residents to refrain from charging electric vehicles amid heat wave blackout fears, just one week after passing legislation banning the sale of gas cars by 2035.
The California Independent System Operator has warned that stress on the energy grid could lead to blackouts and called for consumer conservation between 4 pm And 9 pm.
Wednesday's announcement comes less than one week after California regulators moved to require all new vehicles in the state to run on electricity by 2035, an ambitious goal by the country's most populous state to phase out gasoline-powered automobiles and curb carbon emissions.
Yes California is telling residents to stop charging their electric cars during the heat wave. It will really be a green state when has cars are gone and electric cars can't charge their batteries.
Elvis 2008
09-01-22, 19:10
The FBI pulled over 300 classified documents out of the criminal headquarters at Mar-a-Lago.And you think that is important? Well, if this goes to trial, Trump is going to say he declassified these documents, SCOTUS will say it too and then everyone is going to read this stuff and see how stupid this designation is. After all the shit the FBI has pulled, you are so stupid that you think the FBI and government is perfect. Glenn Greenwald who got all of the national security documents that Snowden pulled said national security really is national security 10% of the time and is political security 90% of the time.
Rather Elvira'sElvira? LOL. I do not even know how to respond. The government is doing everything I said to do now which is focus on sick people and leave mostly healthy people alone. The government has stopped paying for testing, tossing $100 billions worth of expired vaccines and sadly is not paying for monoclonal antibodies, and the death rate for the vaccinated is higher than the unvaccinated.
Like with masks, Fauci contradicted himself and is saying he was always against lockdowns. Even the CDC has admitted their response was screwed up. Outside of a prediction based upon the earliest strain of the virus two years ago using modeling, which I took back once the virus mutated, no one has been more right about Covid that me.
What is funny with dumb Dems like you is that you have not kept up. Elvira? LOL. Your heroes, Biden, Fauci, and the Pfizer CEO, got immunized and boosted x 4 and all got Covid, and you dummies are still arguing for the benefits of the vaccine. How dumb are you people?
TrumpShit's is a criminal, and he's going to jail.LOL. For what? Keeping documents showing the FBI is corrupt? You still do not get why the FBI used a warrant and not a subpoena.
Elvis 2008
09-01-22, 19:19
The most telling thing about the wingnuts is that they never ever ever (and did I mention ever?) even tried to explain why Trump needed all these top-secret documents in the first place.Because they are embarrassing to the FBI, and Trump thought the FBI would destroy them. Duh.
There is only one reasonable explanation: his relationship with Vlad the Impaler ain't over. That would explain why he felt the risk of exposure and even criminal prosecution would be worth keeping his boss happy.Yeah, with you that is the only possible explanation, Russiagate was true, the pee tape was real, and Victoria Nuland did not say "Yats is our guy" and "Fuck the EU" of the 2014 coup.
I am just curious Xpartan. Was the pee story and pee tape real?
You know that pee tape is what could have been top secret. That is what Trump kept in his safe.
MarquisdeSade1
09-01-22, 20:17
LOL. Imagine actually unironically doing the "diversity is our strength" schtick in 2022. See my previous post for how diversity is destroying the US military. And imagine mentioning Afghanistan when trying to hype up the US military. Yes, the same Afghanistan that just inflicted the most humiliating defeat and retreat in the history of said military.
Again, an ignorant Western fake news-washed take. The Kiev (not "Kyiv") fake attack was a short-term feint to tie down huge numbers of Ukrainian troops while Russia and the DPR and LPR forces carried out important maneouvres in the east. The tiny number of troops deployed by Russia show that they never intended to capture the city. They don't want Kiev; they want the Russian-speaking areas in the south and east.
ROFL. One single goofy doofus on fake news CNN. Wouldn't be surprised if he's a crisis actor.
What? First you say Russia is mobilizing, then you say they aren't mobilizing because they haven't declared war. Get your story straight, doofus.
The reality is that Russia has gone in soft, with an undermanned force, and a very limited bombing campaign. They could have turned the whole of Ukraine to rubble as the US did in Iraq, but they haven't.
Amnesty International just released a report stating that Ukrainian troops are hiding behind human shields. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/.
"Ukrainian forces have put civilians in harm's way by establishing bases and operating weapons systems in populated residential areas, including in schools and hospitals.
Such tactics violate international humanitarian law and endanger civilians, as they turn civilian objects into military targets.
"We have documented a pattern of Ukrainian forces putting civilians at risk and violating the laws of war when they operate in populated areas," said Agns Callamard, Amnesty International's Secretary General. ".
I'll accept your grovelling apology tomorrow.
The rest of your fake news rubbish is barely worth looking at. Europe is having an energy crisis so bad that German ministers are telling people to wipe themselves with a damp towel instead of taking a shower. Energy prices have skyrocketed and people will die of cold this winter as they cannot afford both eating and heating.
And your 80 k Russian deaths figure is laughably absurd. There are hardly that many Russian troops there. They are winning all the same.
As for our enemy, the real enemy of the heritage American people is the Washington swamp. Putin didn't open our borders or cut our kids' dicks off. (Protip: whenever there's a conflict, the side with child trannies are the bad guys).You mess with what is in the best interest of the people and they will throw you off a balcony.
The oligarchs / CEOs don't control politicians in Russia like they do in Europe and the USA.
https://www.aol.com/news/russian-oil-executive-dies-falling-133254073.html
https://stormer-daily.rw/american-gorbachev-praises-russian-gorbachev-after-the-old-vampire-finally-croaks/
ScatManDoo
09-01-22, 21:12
The most telling thing about the wingnuts is that they never ever ever (and did I mention ever?) even tried to explain why Trump needed all these top-secret documents in the first place.TrumpShit jerks off to them.
If TrumpShit would just admit he soaked most pages with his jizz, the FBI would gladly return them immediately.
Imaging you were the FBI agent assigned to pull fingerprints off those Top Secret documents to see who's fingers flipped through the pages?
You're a better poster than the standard wacko left dem douches because you don't deny the reality of the terrible problems caused by the nefarious Washington swamp. Unfortunately, your solutions are ridiculous communist bullshit which wouldn't fix anything. But halfway is better than nothing. You aren't a completely lost cause.Thats because I am not a "wacko left dem douche". I am a Marxist terrorist. Haha. Kiddin. I am an anarchist, not a communist. I beleive in transnationalism. If you want some homework, you should look into it. You might find its not so "nuts" after all. - Imagine, if you will, the USA as a template for the world. Anyone can go and live or work anywhere they like. Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world.
Yanukovich was the legitimately elected president. He was not removed via constitutional means but via a violent mob.
... the cognitive dissonance of the fake news-brainwashed wacko left dem douches: you claim Jan 6, in which some unarmed people walked peacefully through open doors, waved in by cops, took some selfies and left, to be an "insurrection" and "attempted coup. The hypocrisy, mendacity and lack of any connection to reality ... is something to behold. Absolutely correct. The trouble is, both sides of the political spectrum in the USA are equally guilty of that. Neither side is capable of accepting that their own party represents the wealthy only. Both sides instead stick to the tried and tested method of ignoring their own mistakes and hurling custard pies at the opposition.
Don't you see where that appraoch gets you? I will tell you where. Right here, in this mess that the USA has landed. This is the result of decades of passing the baton between one group of corrupt wealthy benefactors to another. And supporters of both sides just continue to blame the other. Well, I guess you get what you deserve.
MarquisdeSade1
09-02-22, 00:26
Thats because I am not a "wacko left dem douche". I am a Marxist terrorist. Haha. Kiddin. I am an anarchist, not a communist. I beleive in transnationalism. If you want some homework, you should look into it. You might find its not so "nuts" after all. - Imagine, if you will, the USA as a template for the world. Anyone can go and live or work anywhere they like. Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world.
Absolutely correct. The trouble is, both sides of the political spectrum in the USA are equally guilty of that. Neither side is capable of accepting that their own party represents the wealthy only. Both sides instead stick to the tried and tested method of ignoring their own mistakes and hurling custard pies at the opposition.
Don't you see where that appraoch gets you? I will tell you where. Right here, in this mess that the USA has landed. This is the result of decades of passing the baton between one group of corrupt wealthy benefactors to another. And supporters of both sides just continue to blame the other. Well, I guess you get what you deserve.Even a broken clock is correct twice a day JK LOL.
This is why I hate both parties equally!!
This is why we need Our Supreme Leader Donald J Trump for life!!
He is the only one that can save humanity!!
Don't you see where that appraoch gets you? I will tell you where. Right here, in this mess that the USA has landed. This is the result of decades of passing the baton between one group of corrupt wealthy benefactors to another. And supporters of both sides just continue to blame the other. Well, I guess you get what you deserve.
I told you that you had to have threats of the documents being destroyed to justify a warrant. Documents were moved around? Big fucking deal. A warrant is a massive and unjustified overreaction to that.
LOL. The FBI stepped on its dick again. Taking photos of classified information (as the FBI just did) is illegal. As Trump said, it is good thing he declassified them or whomever took that photo belongs in jail.
You are the moron because you still do not get it. Did anyone dispute there were documents marked as classified? No one I know did, so what is the point of showing the photo? Here is a hint. The FBI is getting desperate.
Why did the FBI and DOJ react like this? Because Trump wanted a "special master" to look at the documents. A "special master" is a an objective third party like a former judge who will review the documents and the FBI and DOJ are vehemently opposed to an independent third party looking at them. Gee, I wonder why.
Your Yahoo article was practically written by the FBI, and this is so stupid I cannot believe you buy it. "Even if Trump did, in fact, declassify all of the documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago, it might not make a difference. Legal experts have pointed out that none of the criminal provisions listed in the FBI's search warrant as the basis of their investigation have anything to do with whether or not the materials in question were classified. ".
So they possibly illegally take a photo of classified information and now say that documents being classified does not matter? LOL. That is the brilliant FBI for you.
Are you really that dumb? How many times has Trump gone to war with the FBI, and you dumb Dems have taken the FBI's side and lost? Trump said the FBI spied on him during his campaign. You dumb Dems say there was no way that happen. Yeah, it was true. He fires Comey for fucking with his administration. You guys declare that an outrage then Comey admits he was doing just that. Hell, Comey even leaked a document (funny like Hiliary he was not prosecuted either. Gee why was that?
This latest outrage was because the FBI does not want anyone seeing those documents. Obviously, you missed that part. And hell yeah, if the documents have been declassified and belong to us, I sure as hell want to see them and what all this fuss is about. Now the content of the documents will be known to someone else.
You must be in favor of the National Archives and FBI keeping documents where the FBI fucked up from public eyes. Yeah, you government loving Democratic morons think our government never fucks up. That is why having amnesia in part of being a Dem.
And the two latest Garland initiatives. We are going to wait until after the mid terms to decide on criminal activity. HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yeah, this was not a political move but we are waiting until after the midterm elections before doing anything. Remember Garland is not on SCOTUS due to Trump, no conflict there.
And the other is FBI agents can no longer go to political functions. This is so Garland. We want to try to not appear to be political even though everyone knows we are.
I told you the purpose of this was never to prosecute Trump but get the documents because they make the FBI look like shit and now someone is going to get to see what they are. You are just so stupidly anti-Trump you do not see it.
What you do not get is that federal law is so broad that you can nail anyone for anything, and that is why it is super important to have an objective and consistent law enforcement which we do not have.
You are so stupid you probably buy the line that DOJ is looking into Hunter Biden and waiting to make its case. What a crock. Hunter incriminates himself on his own fucking laptop. There is no "making the case". Just like sitting on the Trump case for political purposes, the DOJ is doing the same damned thing with Hunter.The BS flowing from you gets deeper and deeper by the minute. There is, literally, nothing in this rant that is even remotely true. Hell, there isn't anything here that Qanon would consider true.
You seem to imply that you have a JD because you try to make all sorts of legal arguments. Where did you get the JD anyway? TRUMP University?
Photos? Yeah, the FBI and the DOJ don't know the law but you do? Serouusly? That's what you want us to believe? There was no photo of classified information. There was a photo of cover sheets. Only an idiot or a moron would look at the photo and say that it was of classified information. Oh, wait. Donnie the Dumbass said that.
Donnie the Dumbass' team of minimum-wage legal idiots never mentioned "the warrant" in their filing on August 31. Not once. Evidently, these geniuses didn't think the warrant was a big deal. But you, with your tRUMP you JD or LLM or SJD or MLS or MDR degree are soooooo much smarter than them. So I don't know who is dumber. Maybe you ought to lend your legal expertise to Donnie's team of idiots.
FYI, Donnie the Dumbass admitted that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/15/15640570/trump-comey-russia-republican-voters.
Speaking of a "special master", didn't Donnie the Dumbass say that he declassified all of the documents? Didn't you say that too? And since Donnie the Dumbass said that, why did his team of "we'll work for free because we know he'll stiff us" crackpot legal geniuses specify in their filing yesterday that the "special master" needed to have the appropriate high security clearance? One needs no security clearance to view unclassified documents. Oops.
See, one of the many things that you don't understand is that lawyers who lie in court are subject to severe penalties. That's why none of the 60+ election lawsuits filed by Donnie the Dumbass' lawyers alleged election fraud. That's why Donnie the Dumbass' lawyers didn't say that the documents were declassified. Because you need to show proof to the judge when you file that type of paperwork with the court. Donnie the Dumbass' lawyers couldn't provide election fraud proof and they can't provide declassification proof. They may be working for minimum wage but they aren't stupid. (Well, they are but they work cheap) What good is your supposed law degree if you can't even understand a basic legal ethics question such as that? Something that's taught in the first week of law school. (My brother is a lawyer and he said that that subject is covered very early in law school).
So, the documents in question have not been declassified. Even members of Donnie the Dumbass' own so-called administration have said that his blanket declassification order was "bullshit". Since the documents haven't been declassified, nobody can see them unless they have the appropriate security clearance. Donnie's own lawyers even said that the documents haven't been declassified (see above).
And, besides, the documents do not belong to Donnie the Dumbass. How many times does somebody need to say this before you get it through your thick skull. That is the question here. And the overriding one at that. The rest of of your arguments are, as usual, a smokescreen.
Donnie the Dumbass was illegally in possession of classified documents. He, himself, signed into law a bill increasing the penalty for such an act to a felony and five (5) years in prison. He was so stupid that he thought that he'd be able to pin that charge on HRC. Too bad the bill didn't specify 5 years for every document. You probably can't do the math but, at last count, Donnie the Dumbass had illegal possession of more than 230 classified documents after January 20th, 2020.5 * 230 = 1,150 years in prison. Somehow, I don't think he'd come out of that sentence alive. Lucky for him that he didn't sign a bill that sasid that anybody in possession of classified documents should be shot. Remember, he said that about Assange and Snowden. And Donnie the Dumbass is guilty of the same crime that he wanted them shot for. https://news.yahoo.com/trump-likely-charged-crime-said-210237403.html.
Thats because I am not a "wacko left dem douche". I am a Marxist terrorist. Haha. Kiddin. I am an anarchist, not a communist. I beleive in transnationalism. If you want some homework, you should look into it. You might find its not so "nuts" after all. - Imagine, if you will, the USA as a template for the world. Anyone can go and live or work anywhere they like. Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world.
Absolutely correct. The trouble is, both sides of the political spectrum in the USA are equally guilty of that. Neither side is capable of accepting that their own party represents the wealthy only. Both sides instead stick to the tried and tested method of ignoring their own mistakes and hurling custard pies at the opposition.
Don't you see where that appraoch gets you? I will tell you where. Right here, in this mess that the USA has landed. This is the result of decades of passing the baton between one group of corrupt wealthy benefactors to another. And supporters of both sides just continue to blame the other. Well, I guess you get what you deserve.The reason Chris and the Marquis love you is because they know your False Equivalency Bothsiderism only serves to help their beloved USA Economy-destroying Repubs get elected.
Only one Party and POTUSes pass legislation that, among other beneficial results, raise or establish reasonable minimum tax rates on the "wealthy only" in order to pay for the benefits and services the vast majority of Americans want their tax money to pay for and provide. That would be the Democratic Party.
Hence, Dems have produced every major economic boom time and massive private sector jobs creation of the past 100 years or so and none of the Great Recessions and Great Crashes.
Only one Party has systematically reduce and eliminate taxes for the "wealthy only" in order to, among other disastrous results, 'starve the beast' of the vast majority getting what they want their tax money to pay for and provide. That would be the Republican Party.
Hence, Repubs have produced every Great Recession, Great Crash and massive private sector job destruction of the past 100 years or so and none of the boom times and massive private sector job creation.
Only one Party wants more Americans to vote and makes it easier for them to do so while only one Party wants fewer Americans to vote and makes it harder for them to do so.
Do I even need to cite which one is which?
Your pro Repub False Equivalency and Bothsiderism helps immeasurably to produce the very "mess" you are presumably referring to. You really might as well stand in line behind the most rabid America-hating QAnon loons and match their Repub votes all down the ballot for every election.
ScatManDoo
09-02-22, 03:54
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What Democrats' Win In Alaska Tells Us About November.
Sept. 1, 2022
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-democrats-win-in-alaska-tells-us-about-november/
For the second time in as many weeks, Democrats have won a competitive special election. And by the numbers, this win was even more impressive than last weeks victory in New Yorks 19th District.
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Impressively, Peltola managed to prevail despite Alaska being a fairly red state. According to FiveThirtyEights partisan lean metric, Alaska is 15 percentage points redder than the nation as a whole. That means going by the results in the final round, Peltolas 3-point victory was an 18-point overperformance for Democrats. By contrast, last week, Democrat Pat Ryan won New Yorks 19th District, an R+4 seat, by 2 points just a 6-point overperformance.Yeah, I said early on to be mindful that these polls are probably over-sampling Repubs.
Still, the two things and the ONLY things Repubs have going for them to "win" some Congressional seats this mid-term is the long tradition of the out Party in the White House typically doing so in the first mid-term of a presidency anyway and the built-in election-rigging element of extreme gerrymandering favoring Repubs combined with the Repubs' nation-wide packing of state and local ballot-collecting and vote-counting positions with their looniest American democracy-hating QAnon Repubs.
Both of which are critical to swaying the outcome vs the polling and might indeed allow Repubs to prevail.
Otherwise, Repubs have absolutely nothing on their side to justify earning so much as a single free and fair vote and Dems have everything on their side to justify getting 100% of the free and fair votes.
To recap on the poll issue:
Even as actual election results have strongly suggested most polls are way over-sampling Repubs, as of this writing, the Consensus Poll of Polls on the demonstrably winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site and the more highly regarded FiveThirtyEight site show Biden with a higher Job Approval and Favorability Rating than any other Party leader in Congress.
It is higher than either House of Congress.
It is higher than anyone or any entity that can do anything to continue cleaning up the horrific "mess" Trump and his classic Repub policies and stewardship left behind.
It is higher than the immediate former guy had at this point in his so-called presidency and he beats the former guy and 2024 Repub front-runner nominee soundly in a hypothetical head-to-head poll question.
The Dems are also now leading and on the rise in voter preference to control Congress on both sites, following a dramatic plunge for Repubs on that advantage.
And that is before a couple of recent major polls with decidedly good news for Dems (and therefore for America) have been factored into the consensus, before the reaction to Biden's brilliant Soul of America speech has settled in and before most voters have stopped to take a good hard look at the America-hating loons that Trump endorsed into a nomination in many races.
Elvis 2008
09-02-22, 09:40
You seem to imply that you have a JD because you try to make all sorts of legal arguments. Where did you get the JD anyway? TRUMP University?Yeah, you just lost the argument with that.
Photos? Yeah, the FBI and the DOJ don't know the law but you do? Serouusly? That's what you want us to believe? There was no photo of classified information. There was a photo of cover sheets.And that being illegal was what was trending on the right wing media, and it is correct. It is illegal to take that photo but you think the government can never do anything illegal.
Donnie the Dumbass' team of minimum-wage legal idiots never mentioned "the warrant" in their filing on August 31. Not once. Evidently, these geniuses didn't think the warrant was a big deal.Say what? LOL. That issue is not before the court now dummy.
FYI, Donnie the Dumbass admitted that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation.You mean the fraud that started with the Hiliary campaign which the FBI knew was a fraud in mid 2016 and yet Comey continued to investigate. Yeah, making a bogus criminal case against your boss is a good way to get fired.
Speaking of a "special master"Why the quotes? That is weak.
why did his team of "we'll work for free because we know he'll stiff us" crackpot legal geniuses specify in their filing yesterday that the "special master" needed to have the appropriate high security clearance?You know why. That is weaker still. There should be no question of his status to look at the documents. Why is that an issue? It is better to err on the side of caution.
See, one of the many things that you don't understand is that lawyers who lie in court are subject to severe penalties.I don't? Says who?
That's why none of the 60+ election lawsuits filed by Donnie the Dumbass' lawyers alleged election fraud. There was no way the courts were going to get involved in a presidential election back then or in the future but, but you dumb Dems think they are going to get involved now on your side. The courts want nothing to do with this case and will toss it, and Garland knows it.
What good is your supposed law degree if you can't even understand a basic legal ethics question such as that? Something that's taught in the first week of law school. (My brother is a lawyer and he said that that subject is covered very early in law school).Ethics and lawyers? LOL. That is a good one. FWIW, judges are some of the best pols going. You have a way too high opinion of the judicial system.
Even members of Donnie the Dumbass' own so-called administration have said that his blanket declassification order was "bullshit".Who cares? I quoted the law to you and the case the law was based on. What you do not get is the law is based on a Supreme Court precedent, and they can say what Trump did was legal, and it is case closed, and there is not a fucking thing you can do about it. But the judges have to be given the chance to rule, and SCOTUS has to wait for the cases to go through the lower courts.
You keep responding with your weak ass arguments when the truth is you have no idea about the fucking process. You are embarrassing yourself. You usually represent the Democratic side well PVM but not this time. You have no clue what you are talking about.
Obviously you are not a businessman that did business with China. At least not on the financial side. I did over $200 million dollars with China over 10 years importing into USA, Canada and Kazakhstan. Paid millions on anti dumping tariffs but still charged our customers a lower price because China devalued their currency. The factories and workers get paid in RMB. When we purchased $1,000,000 RMB of product before devalation we paid $158,478 USD. After devaluing their currency we paid $140,845 USD. We paid the 10% so our total cost was $154,930 which allowed us to sell to our customers at the same price we had before the tariffs. But under Trump tarriffs the USA government collected billions, China factories got billions less. With the trade war farmers lost business. Trump just made sure that the farmers were not hurt and gave them a small percentage of what he collected.
You obviously need lessons from somebody because you never learned anything from your supposed business.You are the only business that ever exported product from China and got the Chinese to lower their prices after their currency devaluation. The only one. Every other company, from Whirlpool to Ford to Tyson to 3 M to Harley-Davidson passed at least some of the increased cost onto consumers. But not your supposed company. You were the only company to beat the Chinese while the rest of these billion-dollar companies had import specialists and lawyers that were as stupid as the ones Donnie the Dumbass hires.
Congratulations! You need to sell your expertise to every billion-dollar company in the world who was not able to do that. You would make a fortune.
On the other hand, you could show us the actual contracts that prove your point.
Will the Fauci supporters ever admit that he is a pathological liar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj8qrDGmlZQ
If you cannot admit he lies, you need to look urself in the mirror.
The reason Chris and the Marquis love you is because they know your False Equivalency Bothsiderism only serves to help their beloved USA Economy-destroying Repubs get elected.
I have no idea what MDS writes. Its like trying to decipher The Riddler. He doesn't seem tloo be able to put a single coherent sentence together.
You really might as well stand in line behind the most rabid America-hating QAnon loons and match their Repub votes all down the ballot for every election.You have taken that upon urself by supporting the status quo. "I can't support change, bcos it will never happen" BS.
Bothsiderism. No, I am Neithersiderism.
Thats because I am not a "wacko left dem douche". I am a Marxist terrorist. Haha. Kiddin. There's a bit of truth to every joke, or at least so the saying goes.
I am an anarchist, not a communist. I beleive in transnationalism. ... Imagine, if you will, the USA as a template for the world. Anyone can go and live or work anywhere they like. Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world. Sounds pretty "wacko left dem douche", to me. (...kkkk!)
... Neither side is capable of accepting that their own party represents the wealthy only. Both sides instead stick to the tried and tested method of ignoring their own mistakes and hurling custard pies at the opposition. ...
This is the result of decades of passing the baton between one group of corrupt wealthy benefactors to another. And supporters of both sides just continue to blame the other. Well, I guess you get what you deserve. Fair arguments. But for those that want to sit on the fence and be agnostic, must also equally share the blame, for actively doing nothing.
After all, "Evil exists when good men do nothing". Enter Evil Agent Orange, stage-right!
Look, much like other established democratic countries, that have a three (3) or four (4) political parties and take less money influencing politics, would definitely be more ideal towards a more democratic US. Unfortunately, QAnon/Repubs, are moving the US towards a fascist dictatorship.
Finally, let me ask you a question:
Q. If you absolutely had to choose between Dems or Repubs, with "gun/pistol to your head" (figuratively speaking of course), which of the two (2) parties do you honestly think will get you closer to your "promised land" or utopian unfettered borderless world?
Yeah, you just lost the argument with that.
And that being illegal was what was trending on the right wing media, and it is correct. It is illegal to take that photo but you think the government can never do anything illegal.
Say what? LOL. That issue is not before the court now dummy.
You mean the fraud that started with the Hiliary campaign which the FBI knew was a fraud in mid 2016 and yet Comey continued to investigate. Yeah, making a bogus criminal case against your boss is a good way to get fired.
Why the quotes? That is weak.
You know why. That is weaker still. There should be no question of his status to look at the documents. Why is that an issue? It is better to err on the side of caution.
I don't? Says who?
There was no way the courts were going to get involved in a presidential election back then or in the future but, but you dumb Dems think they are going to get involved now on your side. The courts want nothing to do with this case and will toss it, and Garland knows it..I don't care what might have been trending on rightwingnut media. The photo that was taken was not of classified information. I realize that you don't understand the difference between classified information and cover sheets but I can't make it any simpler for you. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-hid-classified-documents-mar-a-lago-raid-1234584879/ here's the photo. Please tell be exactly where in the photo it shows "classified information'. Not "classified cover sheets" but actual classified information.
You didn't quote case law or any other thing. You provided no sources. And, besides, all of those documents should have been turned over to NARA when Donnie the Dumbass left the WH. Period. I don't care what you think. That is the law.
You were the one who brought up "the warrant". That means you are dumber than Donnie the Dumbass' dumb lawyers.
Sheesh. https://www.alabar.org/office-of-general-counsel/formal-opinions/2009-01/.
Nobody has said that Donnie the Dumbass had the "status" to look at the documents. But not after he left the WH, Those documents did not belong to him. Period. Talk about being foolish. https://www.npr.org/2022/08/13/1117297065/trump-documents-history-national-archives-law-watergate and https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-hid-classified-documents-mar-a-lago-raid-1234584879/ and hundreds of other sources.
High risk of myocarditis in males <40 from Moderna vaxs. Now tje truth is out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGILgxMx5CY
It was obvioously deliberately hidden for as long as they could. Why? Bcos of the corporate capture of the state regulatory body (CDC) by the industry it is sposed to regulate (Big Pharma).
And how is reponsible for allowing this dangerous corrution, the Reps? The Dems? The truth is BOTH sides. Vote Neithersideism, bcos you need CHANGE.
You are the only business that ever exported product from China and got the Chinese to lower their prices after their currency devaluation. The only one. Every other company, from Whirlpool to Ford to Tyson to 3 M to Harley-Davidson passed at least some of the increased cost onto consumers. But not your supposed company. You were the only company to beat the Chinese while the rest of these billion-dollar companies had import specialists and lawyers that were as stupid as the ones Donnie the Dumbass hires.
Congratulations! You need to sell your expertise to every billion-dollar company in the world who was not able to do that. You would make a fortune.
On the other hand, you could show us the actual contracts that prove your point.Just thank Trump. He is the one who put the pressure on the Chinese government. Yes our company along with every company you mentioned in your post benefited from the currency devaluation. Yes we could have raised our prices to our customers like many companies did but we were making a fair margin and wanted to keep our market share. You obviously did not benefit because you did not have a company doing this business. You only worked for the company. And yes I did sell out to a billion dollar company and semi retired because I do not want to work for a billion dollar company. So I started another company and 2 years later sold out again to another billion dollar company and semi retired again. But thanks to Biden driving oil prices and gas prices to record highs I started another business and will end up selling it to another billion dollar company. You in the other hand are still probably waiting on the next Biden handout. Big difference.
'MAGA Republicans are seething with rage because Biden hit his target'.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/02/biden-speech-philadelphia-trump-maga-republicans-democracy/
Wave a Red Bye-Bye. What Democrats' Win In Alaska Tells Us About November.
Sept. 1, 2022 ... https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-democrats-win-in-alaska-tells-us-about-november/
Yeah, I said early on to be mindful that these polls are probably over-sampling Repubs.
The Dems are also now leading and on the rise in voter preference to control Congress on both sites, following a dramatic plunge for Repubs on that advantage.
And that is before a couple of recent major polls with decidedly good news for Dems (and therefore for America) have been factored into the consensus, before the reaction to Biden's brilliant Soul of America speech has settled in and before most voters have stopped to take a good hard look at the America-hating loons that Trump endorsed into a nomination in many races.Great Win for the democracy and the Dems!
... because of Alaskas new system of ranked choice voting
Unsurprisingly, most of Begichs votes (50 percent) went to his fellow Republican, Palin. But an impressive 29 percent went to Peltola, and 21 percent were exhausted, meaning there was no second-choice pick, and the votes were essentially thrown out...
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-democrats-win-in-alaska-tells-us-about-november/Great indictment against QAnon Palin / Trump Humpers. Good to know not all Repubs have lost their minds.
Beijing4987
09-02-22, 20:42
Hindsight is 20/20 for a pothead who is not a statistician. Check out Jimmy's stats and issues (he discovered comedy as a way to avoid beatings by 6 older catholic brothers) on Wikipedia. Monday morning quarterbacks know it all. Money grubbing pharma will make your life miserable and kill you. Jimmy and his researchers will enlighten you. I'm a pothead that loves comedy, BTW.
Hindsight is 20/20 for a pothead who is not a statistician. Check out Jimmy's stats and issues (he discovered comedy as a way to avoid beatings by 6 older catholic brothers) on Wikipedia. Monday morning quarterbacks know it all. Money grubbing pharma will make your life miserable and kill you. Jimmy and his researchers will enlighten you.What's this, another attack on the messenger rather than the message. Whatsup with you people?
Elvis 2008
09-02-22, 21:28
Hindsight is 20/20 for a pothead who is not a statistician. Check out Jimmy's stats and issues (he discovered comedy as a way to avoid beatings by 6 older catholic brothers) on Wikipedia. Monday morning quarterbacks know it all. Money grubbing pharma will make your life miserable and kill you. Jimmy and his researchers will enlighten you. I'm a pothead that loves comedy, BTW.Except it was not hindsight for JustTK, and it was not for me. TK said that he focused on his staying healthy and I rallied against lockdowns, travel bans, the vaccines when they did not work, social distancing, and masks in most cases. TK got blasted for "risking the lives of others" when he said he was not vaccinated, and I was called Elvira and Elvirus.
It is not 20-20 hindsight for him or me. You just have your head up in your butt.
And Fauci is the narcissitic lying megalomaniac or if you are a dumb Dem, that is otherwise known as a "scientific expert". This asshole funded creation of the virus who killed so many, and this fool directed most of the medical research in our country.
And remember when you are toasty this winter and Europeans are freezing, the reason why you have that is because we Republicans fought the climate change nuts so hard. Thank God we have natural gas, coal, and nuclear to keep us warm.
If you are in Europe this winter with a wood burning stove, a pile of firewood, and ample toilet paper, the hot ladies will be knocking on your door asking to spend the night.
What's this, another attack on the messenger rather than the message. Whatsup with you people?I think you've been told before that "The Jimmy Dore Show" isn't exactly a reliable source for anything. If you can't find a reliable source maybe your point isn't a good one.
Just thank Trump. He is the one who put the pressure on the Chinese government. Yes our company along with every company you mentioned in your post benefited from the currency devaluation. Yes we could have raised our prices to our customers like many companies did but we were making a fair margin and wanted to keep our market share. You obviously did not benefit because you did not have a company doing this business. You only worked for the company. And yes I did sell out to a billion dollar company and semi retired because I do not want to work for a billion dollar company. So I started another company and 2 years later sold out again to another billion dollar company and semi retired again. But thanks to Biden driving oil prices and gas prices to record highs I started another business and will end up selling it to another billion dollar company. You in the other hand are still probably waiting on the next Biden handout. Big difference.So, no contracts. Typical. All sizzle, no steak.
The Moron Brigade (who at one time idolized Billy Barr) are now crying in their beer that he thinks Donnie the Dumbass is dumber than he even thought. The following is from here. https://news.yahoo.com/bill-barr-blows-every-trumpy-191001230.html Note that it was a FUX Snooze interview.
Bill Barr, the one-time attorney general under former President Donald Trump, told Fox News on Friday that the ex-president had no "legitimate reason" to hoard classified material at his Florida resort. Furthermore, he defended the Justice Department's decision to raid Mar-a-Lago, arguing that the DOJ was "being jerked around" by Team Trump.
As a federal judge decides whether or not to grant Trump's request for a "special master" to review the documents seized from his property last month, the Justice Department revealed on Friday just how careless the former president had been with state secrets at his private club.
In an eight-page inventory list, the department noted that Trump had casually mixed "TOP SECRET" documents with magazines, books, and his wife's clothes. One box allegedly found in the ex-president's office also contained "43 empty folders with 'CLASSIFIED' banners. " Federal prosecutors are mulling whether to charge Trump with criminal offenses under the Espionage Act and obstruction of justice.
Appearing on Fox News' America Reports on Friday afternoon, Barr—who has distanced himself from Trump over the ex-president's election lies—was immediately dismissive of Team Trump's attempts to appoint a special master.
"Well, I think the whole idea of a special master is a bit of a red herring," he flatly stated. He went on to say that Trump's attorneys haven't identified any private lawyer communications that should be insulated from government review, adding that everything else appears to be "seizable" by the feds.
"What people are missing, all the other documents taken, even if they claim to be executive privilege, either belong to the government because they are government records, even if they are classified, even if they are subject to executive privilege, they still belong to the government and go to the {National Archives}," Barr said.
"And any other documents that were seized, like news clippings and other things in the boxes containing the classified information, those were seizable under the warrant because they show the conditions under which the classified information was being held," he added. "So I think it's a red herring. I think it would, you know, at this stage, since they have already gone through the documents, I think it's a waste of time. ".
Co-anchor John Roberts noted that Trump and his allies have claimed the ex-president had a "standing order" to declassify any documents he removed from the White House when he left office.
"Is there any legitimate reason for those materials to be in the former president's possession?" Roberts asked.
"No. I can't think of a legitimate reason why they should have been—could be taken out of the government, away from the government if they are classified," Barr replied. "I frankly am skeptical of the claim that he declassified everything. ".
The former AG continued: "You know, because frankly, I think it's highly improbable, and second, if in fact he sort of stood over scores of boxes, not really knowing what was in them, and said, 'I hereby declassify everything in here,' that would be such an abuse and that shows such recklessness it's almost worse than taking the documents. ".
Co-anchor Sandra Smith then said there "are some questions over the timeline" before stating that some critics wonder if "perhaps there was more room for the authorities to obtain these materials without raiding the president's home. " She asked if the raid "was avoidable" and whether the DOJ could have just issued a second subpoena to obtain the documents, echoing Team Trump's claims they were "cooperating" with the feds.
Barr, once again, didn't mince words.
"I think for them to have taken things to the current point they probably have pretty good evidence. But that's speculation and until we see that it's hard to say," he said.
"Let me just say, I think the driver on this from the beginning was, you know, loads of classified information sitting in Mar-a-Lago. People say this was unprecedented, well it's also unprecedented for a president to take all this classified information and put them in a country club, OK?
Barr added: "And how long is the government going to try to get that back? They jawbone for a year, they were deceived on the voluntary actions taken, they then went and got a subpoena, they were deceived on that, they feel, and the facts are starting to show, that they were being jerked around and so how long, you know, how long do they wait?
In the end, though Barr said he hopes "it doesn't happen," the former top attorney in the nation suggested that the DOJ may well indict the former president for hoarding classified documents.
"If they clearly have the president moving stuff around and hiding stuff in his desk and telling people to—they may be inclined to bring the case," he concluded. "And there are differences of opinion on whether that makes sense. But we really have to know the facts to see, to make a judgment about that. ".
The following is an op-ed piece. https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-soon-indicted-heres-075321268.html.
It gives me no joy to write this piece.
Even a cursory review of the redacted version of the affidavit submitted in support of the government's application for a search warrant at the home of former President Donald Trump reveals that he will soon be indicted by a federal grand jury for three crimes: Removing and concealing national defense information, giving NDI to those not legally entitled to possess it and obstruction of justice by failing to return NDI to those who are legally entitled to retrieve it.
When he learned from a phone call that 30 FBI agents were at the front door of his Florida residence with a search warrant and he decided to reveal this publicly, Trump assumed that the agents were looking for classified top-secret materials that they'the allege he criminally possessed. His assumptions were apparently based on his gut instinct and not on a sophisticated analysis of the law. Hence, his public boast that he declassified all the formerly classified documents he took with him.
Unbeknownst to him, the feds had anticipated such a defense and are not preparing to indict him for possessing classified materials, even though he did possess hundreds of voluntarily surrendered materials marked "top secret. " It is irrelevant if the documents were declassified, as the feds will charge crimes that do not require proof of classification. They told the federal judge who signed the search warrant that Trump still had NDI in his home. It appears they were correct.
Under the law, it doesn't matter if the documents on which NDI is contained are classified or not, as it is simply and always criminal to have NDI in a non-federal facility, to have those without security clearances move it from one place to another, and to keep it from the feds when they are seeking it. Stated differently, the absence of classification — for whatever reason — is not a defense to the charges that are likely to be filed against Trump.
Yet, misreading and underestimating the feds, Trump actually did them a favor. One of the elements that they must prove for any of the three crimes is that Trump knew that he had the documents. The favor he did was admitting to that when he boasted that they were no longer classified. He committed a mortal sin in the criminal defense world by denying something for which he had not been accused.
The second element that the feds must prove is that the documents actually do contain national defense information. And the third element they must prove is that Trump put these documents into the hands of those not authorized to hold them and stored them in a non-federally secured place. Intelligence community experts have already examined the documents taken from Trump's home and are prepared to tell a jury that they contain the names of foreign agents secretly working for the USA This is the crown jewel of government secrets. Moreover, Trump's Florida home is not a secure federal facility designated for the deposit of NDI.
The newest aspect of the case against Trump that we learned from the redacted affidavit is the obstruction allegation. This is not the obstruction that Robert Mueller claimed he found Trump committed during the Russia investigation. This is a newer obstruction statute, signed by President George W. Bush in 2002, that places far fewer burdens on the feds to prove. The older statute is the one Mueller alleged. It characterizes any material interference with a judicial function as criminal. Thus, one who lies to a grand jury or prevents a witness from testifying commits this variant of obstruction.
But the Bush-era statute, the one the feds contemplate charging Trump with having violated, makes it a crime of obstruction by failing to return government property or by sending the FBI on a wild goose chase looking for something that belongs to the government and that you know that you have. This statute does not require the preexistence of a judicial proceeding. It only requires that the defendant has the government's property, knows that he has it and baselessly resists efforts by the government to get it back.
Where does all this leave Trump? The short answer is: In hot water. The longer answer is: he is confronting yet again the federal law enforcement and intelligence communities for which he has rightly expressed such public disdain. He had valid points of expression during the Russia investigation. He has little ground upon which to stand today.
I have often argued that many of these statutes that the feds have enacted to protect themselves are morally unjust and not grounded in the Constitution. One of my intellectual heroes, the great Murray Rothbard, taught that the government protects itself far more aggressively than it protects our natural rights.
In a monumental irony, both Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks journalist who exposed American war crimes during the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, and Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency employee who exposed criminal mass government surveillance upon the American public, stand charged with the very same crimes that are likely to be brought against Trump. On both Assange and Snowden, Trump argued that they should be executed. Fortunately for all three, these statutes do not provide for capital punishment.
Rothbard warned that the feds aggressively protect themselves. Yet, both Assange and Snowden are heroic defenders of liberty with valid moral and legal defenses. Assange is protected by the Pentagon Papers case, which insulates the media from criminal or civil liability for revealing stolen matters of interest to the public, so long as the revealer is not the thief. Snowden is protected by the Constitution, which expressly prohibits the warrantless surveillance he revealed, which was the most massive peacetime abuse of government power.
What will Trump say is his defense to taking national defense information? I cannot think of a legally viable one.
Beijing4987
09-02-22, 23:51
Yeah, The aged director of the infectious diseases institute for 41 years lied about a past statement. Let's look at all the officials involved in the effort to deal with a "novel" virus that evolved in unexpected ways. Sometimes it's instructive to look at the "messenger" who might only focus on something that seems glaring to get ratings on a podcast. Looking at the bigger picture puts things more into perspective. How many died from Covid? How many of the patients vaccinated with Moderna vaccine with heart problems died? Was Covid a crisis. Yes. Were the vaccines put out in a rush? Yes, maybe. Are humans treated as Guinea pigs?
ChuchoLoco
09-03-22, 00:03
Yeah, The aged director of the infectious diseases institute for 41 years lied about a past statement. Let's look at all the officials involved in the effort to deal with a "novel" virus that evolved in unexpected ways. Sometimes it's instructive to look at the "messenger" who might only focus on something that seems glaring to get ratings on a podcast. Looking at the bigger picture puts things more into perspective. How many died from Covid? How many of the patients vaccinated with Moderna vaccine with heart problems died? Was Covid a crisis. Yes. Were the vaccines put out in a rush? Yes, maybe. Are humans treated as Guinea pigs?Hard to believe that anyone who is such a liar and incompetent can be the head of such an important department. Do you mean he is that good of a liar to fool how many presidents of Both parties for 41 years? Seems to me that he is much smarter than all of his detractors. Why didn't Trump fire him and if vaccines are so bad, why is Trump taking credit for fast tracking them?
I have no idea what MDS writes. Its like trying to decipher The Riddler. He doesn't seem tloo be able to put a single coherent sentence together.
You have taken that upon urself by supporting the status quo. "I can't support change, bcos it will never happen" BS.
Bothsiderism. No, I am Neithersiderism.Well, there is a major detail you seem to be missing about this that I mentioned in my post:
In order for your mythical Third Party or Non Dem / Repub nirvana thingy to ever come to pass there must be more Americans registered to vote, more Americans voting, voting made easier, every ballot collected and every vote counted.
Surely you have not missed the fact that the Repub Party is adamantly against every one of those steps and are actively putting their most devoted and obedient QAnon Repub Loon soldiers in place to thwart or destroy American democracy being practiced that way.
And their orders and mission do not, repeat, do not include "finding" votes for Third Party candidates or Third Party issues. It is all about making sure only likely Repub ballots are gathered and those votes counted so Repubs and only Repubs prevail so they can continue in their decades long Repub mission to Crash the USA economy and wipe out millions upon millions of USA jobs.
Which is the exact opposite of the Dems' constant effort to help more Americans to vote and count every vote. Oh, and NOT to Crash the USA economy and NOT to wipe out millions upon millions of USA jobs.
Therefore, you of all people should be most keen on pro-actively voting for Dems and only Dems straight down every ballot in every election. You know as well as anyone your Third Party nirvana thingy is not going to happen in the next election or the next.
But in order for it to ever ever ever happen, you need tens of millions of legitimately registered voters, new voters, who have widespread and easy access to all vote-casting options and with a certainty that all of their votes will be counted and that the accurate results will matter.
That will only happen when Dems are on guard duty to make sure it happens. Not Repubs. Not ever.
Then and only then will you be able to work your magic convincing all those legitimate American voters to choose no money Third Party candidates who are not beholden to "wealthy only" interests blah blah blah and have a prayer of it actually resulting in an election win for them.
But if you continue to stand by and allow Repubs to do what Repubs have been doing for decades on this very point as though it doesn't matter then you are only choosing to be more of the problem than the solution.
Yeah, The aged director of the infectious diseases institute for 41 years lied about a past statement. Let's look at all the officials involved in the effort to deal with a "novel" virus that evolved in unexpected ways. Sometimes it's instructive to look at the "messenger" who might only focus on something that seems glaring to get ratings on a podcast. Looking at the bigger picture puts things more into perspective. How many died from Covid? How many of the patients vaccinated with Moderna vaccine with heart problems died? Was Covid a crisis. Yes. Were the vaccines put out in a rush? Yes, maybe. Are humans treated as Guinea pigs?Not sure what point your trying to make.
Great Win for the democracy and the Dems!
Great indictment against QAnon Palin / Trump Humpers. Good to know not all Repubs have lost their minds.Pailin was caught "Palin' around with terrorists", otherwise known as the Republican base.
Yep, unless it falls within one of those 200+ year traditions favoring them like that Virginia gubernatorial race, those Trump-endorced loons keep going down in flames in a special election.
In continuation of his sterling record of being the first potus since Repub Herbert Hoover to lose the House, the Senate and the Presidency in a single four year term.
I don't care what might have been trending on rightwingnut media. The photo that was taken was not of classified information. I realize that you don't understand the difference between classified information and cover sheets but I can't make it any simpler for you. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-hid-classified-documents-mar-a-lago-raid-1234584879/ here's the photo. Please tell be exactly where in the photo it shows "classified information'. Not "classified cover sheets" but actual classified information.
You didn't quote case law or any other thing. You provided no sources. And, besides, all of those documents should have been turned over to NARA when Donnie the Dumbass left the WH. Period. I don't care what you think. That is the law.
You were the one who brought up "the warrant". That means you are dumber than Donnie the Dumbass' dumb lawyers.
Sheesh. https://www.alabar.org/office-of-general-counsel/formal-opinions/2009-01/.
Nobody has said that Donnie the Dumbass had the "status" to look at the documents. But not after he left the WH, Those documents did not belong to him. Period. Talk about being foolish. https://www.npr.org/2022/08/13/1117297065/trump-documents-history-national-archives-law-watergate and https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-hid-classified-documents-mar-a-lago-raid-1234584879/ and hundreds of other sources.America would have been kept safer if those Top Secret files had actually been discovered strewn all over the floor at Guangzhou Baiyun International Airport rather than sitting in Donald Trump's desk drawer at his residence, including if not especially when he resided in the White House!
Clearly, Trump and his followers are a greater national security threat to the USA than all of our foreign adversaries since the founding of the country combined.
MarquisdeSade1
09-03-22, 03:31
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/09/02/dark-brandon-disaster-pedohitler-trends-on-twitter-after-joe-bidens-divisive-speech/
The following is an op-ed piece. https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-soon-indicted-heres-075321268.html.
It gives me no joy to write this piece.
Even a cursory review of the redacted version of the affidavit submitted in support of the government's application for a search warrant at the home of former President Donald Trump reveals that he will soon be indicted by a federal grand jury for three crimes: Removing and concealing national defense information, giving NDI to those not legally entitled to possess it and obstruction of justice by failing to return NDI to those who are legally entitled to retrieve it.
When he learned from a phone call that 30 FBI agents were at the front door of his Florida residence with a search warrant and he decided to reveal this publicly, Trump assumed that the agents were looking for classified top-secret materials that they'the allege he criminally possessed. His assumptions were apparently based on his gut instinct and not on a sophisticated analysis of the law. Hence, his public boast that he declassified all the formerly classified documents he took with him.
Unbeknownst to him, the feds had anticipated such a defense and are not preparing to indict him for possessing classified materials, even though he did possess hundreds of voluntarily surrendered materials marked "top secret. " It is irrelevant if the documents were declassified, as the feds will charge crimes that do not require proof of classification. They told the federal judge who signed the search warrant that Trump still had NDI in his home. It appears they were correct.Be very wary of anything Napolitano and Barr contribute to this. As long time Repubs and / or FUX News darlings, they are by definition America-hating liars until proven otherwise.
Sure, they might be speaking the truth here and there. Same as Bolton.
However, it is far more likely their game is to get rid of Repub King Midas In Reverse Trump ASAP, preferably in prison and as far away from their beloved Repub Party as possible. And, for the love of god, for him to STFU about endorcing Repub candidates in the primaries only for them to go down in flames in the real election (see my previous post about his sterling election record since Repub Herbert Hoover).
They see where the polls are headed going into the midterm. They are pulling all the stops to dismiss and silence Trump before he manages to flip that ultra traditional advantage for Repubs this time around into another Trump-induced historic win for the Dems.
Except it was not hindsight for JustTK, and it was not for me. TK said that he focused on his staying healthy and I rallied against lockdowns, travel bans, the vaccines when they did not work, social distancing, and masks in most cases. TK got blasted for "risking the lives of others" when he said he was not vaccinated, and I was called Elvira and Elvirus.
It is not 20-20 hindsight for him or me. You just have your head up in your butt.
And Fauci is the narcissitic lying megalomaniac or if you are a dumb Dem, that is otherwise known as a "scientific expert". This asshole funded creation of the virus who killed so many, and this fool directed most of the medical research in our country.
And remember when you are toasty this winter and Europeans are freezing, the reason why you have that is because we Republicans fought the climate change nuts so hard. Thank God we have natural gas, coal, and nuclear to keep us warm.
If you are in Europe this winter with a wood burning stove, a pile of firewood, and ample toilet paper, the hot ladies will be knocking on your door asking to spend the night.The NIH did not fund "gain of function" research. https://www.bbc.com/news/57932699.
But no matter. Donnie the Dumbass, as has been pointed out multiple times, pulled US medical professionals out of China so that we had no warning.
Of course, every RethugliKKKan moron (who has said that the vaccines are useless) won't admit who was in charge when the vaccines were developed. If anybody is to blame, it is that guy. You know, the one who takes all of the credit for the vaccine. Why, RethugliKKKans, do you not blame Donnie the Dumbass for the useless vaccine? Why? Huh?
Not sure what point your trying to make.The point he was trying to make is that SARS-CoV-2 was a novel virus. Nobody had ever seen it before. That's what "novel" means.
So what every healthcare professional, virologist, infectious disease expert, et cetera did was go back to what they thought they knew about other SARS-type viruses. I distinctly remember early on in the pandemic when we were told to leave groceries out in the garage and bring in several items at a time and wipe them down thoroughly because the experts said that the virus was spread by contact like every other SARS virus known to mankind.
When that procedure proved unhelpful and when it was found that SARS-CoV-2 spread via droplets, the procedure to combat COVID changed.
Unfortunately, the morons and the scientifically ignorant said "See, all those people lied". When you are so stupid that you don't understand what science does and how it works, you get that kind of thinking.
Now, we have vaccines. The idiots say "the vaccines don't work". The ones who are complete morons say things like "the vaccines contain microchips" or "the vaccines alter your DNA" or other similar dumber-than-dogshit things. But, and this is instructive, none of the idiots and morons blame the guy who was large-and-in-charge when the vaccines were developed. That, by the way, was Donnie the Dumbass. The guy who said he understood all of this virus stuff bigly.
The virus is mutating so rapidly that the vaccines are becoming less-and-less effective. But most of the idiots and morons don't have a clue as to how viruses mutate in the first place and they have less of a clue as to what vaccines are supposed to do. The current vaccine was very effective against a virus that essentially disappeared 2 years ago. The virus mutates something like once every 11 days. How many 11-day-cycles have we gone through in the last two-and-a-half years? But the idiots and morons still think the vaccine ought to be as effective today as it was two years ago.
Unfortunately, the US is so dumbed-down educationally (especially in red states) that only 30-some-odd percent of the US population is fully boosted.
Just thank Trump. He is the one who put the pressure on the Chinese government. Yes our company along with every company you mentioned in your post benefited from the currency devaluation. Yes we could have raised our prices to our customers like many companies did but we were making a fair margin and wanted to keep our market share. You obviously did not benefit because you did not have a company doing this business. You only worked for the company. And yes I did sell out to a billion dollar company and semi retired because I do not want to work for a billion dollar company. So I started another company and 2 years later sold out again to another billion dollar company and semi retired again. But thanks to Biden driving oil prices and gas prices to record highs I started another business and will end up selling it to another billion dollar company. You in the other hand are still probably waiting on the next Biden handout. Big difference.Another post from you agreeing with the complete ineptitude of Trump and his failure in the trade war with China. His tariffs were supposed to make US manufacturing more competitive and bring business back to the US and instead geniuses like yourself were going all in quaffing as much Chinese product that you could lay your hands on. Just so funny how everything you raise just confirms what a dope Trump was.
The following is an op-ed piece. https://news.yahoo.com/donald-trump-soon-indicted-heres-075321268.html.Coming from a guy like Napolitano, that really means a lot. Ironic, though: with all Donnie's crimes like multiple financial frauds, sedition, and, most likely, high treason, he might be put away for something like this. It's Capone all over again, LOL. But hey, I'll take whatever.
Marvelous satire from Dana Millbank:
"I'm so sorry you've convinced millions of people to believe the egregious lie that the 2020 election was stolen. I'm sorry you are making heroes of the criminals who attacked our seat of government. I'm sorry you're currently fomenting violence against the FBI and the IRS. I'm sorry you're passing laws giving yourselves more power to overthrow the 2024 election results if you lose, and I'm sorry you're nominating candidates committed to doing so. I'm sorry you don't like it when the Justice Department enforces the law and protects national security. I'm sorry you've lionized Hungarian strongman Viktor Orban, and I'm sorry you say that the Democratic Party, not Vladimir Putin's Russia, is the real enemy. I regret that you've taken away women's rights. I regret that you're banning books and censoring history lessons. I regret that you are shunning science, expertise and the truth. Above all, I'm truly sorry that, because of such things, Biden called you semi-fascists. There's really nothing 'semi' about it."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/02/kevin-mccarthy-joe-biden-semi-fascism-trump/
In an eight-page inventory list, the department noted that Trump had casually mixed "TOP SECRET" documents with magazines, books, and his wife's clothes. One box allegedly found in the ex-president's office also contained "43 empty folders with 'CLASSIFIED' banners.How does the lock-her-up Hillary's server compare to this?
Just try to imagine it wasn't Trump. It's Obama or Clinton who have done even 1/100th of this.
Can you imagine the cries, the outrage, the witch hunt? What exact words would wingnuts have used to describe democrats and the punishment they deserve?
In order for your mythical Third Party or Non Dem / Repub nirvana thingy to ever come to pass there must be more Americans registered to vote.
... the Dems' constant effort to help more Americans to vote and count every vote. Oh, and NOT to Crash the USA economy and NOT to wipe out millions upon millions of USA jobs.
Therefore, you of all people should be most keen on pro-actively voting for Dems and only Dems straight down every ballot in every election.
But if you continue to stand by and allow Repubs ... you are only choosing to be more of the problem than the solution.Give me the Dem Party of the 1940's, of the FDR era, then I would agree w you. BUt that is a dream of a bygone time. Now its neolibs vs neocons, as has been for decades. And the end result from the difference between the two is not worth voting for bcos it delays the opportunity for real change. You are the obstacle, not me. You are standing for a neo-lib corrupt party bcos you think they make life better for the USA, when it doesn't. Your Biden that kickstarts a huge world recession, that bombs innocent people for oil.
You keep saying that change cannot happen. At least not in your life time. Well, it won't happen if people like you get continue with their obstructionist attitudes.
I am a vegan, I know the differecne that baby steps can make. I know the world will not turn vegan overnight. BUt I certainly never thought "oh well, the world will never be vegan so what's the point? No. I committed to never being a part of the murderous animal abuse again. And now look what is ahppeneing. Some countries up to 10%. Nothing would change and no one would stand up for the voiceless if we followed your attitude.
And in politics. Well, voting is only one way to bring change. I think you only can imagine a 3rd party coming in to the elections and beginning to stand and compete on a slow gradual curve. Whereas there are ways and peeople that could bring about meteoric changes very rapidly. Get behind the movement instead of being scared by it.
So, no contracts. Typical. All sizzle, no steak.Thanks for admitting you never had any contracts with China. But it does not hide the fact that you lied in your first post.
Just thank Trump. He is the one who put the pressure on the Chinese government. Yes our company along with every company you mentioned in your post benefited from the currency devaluation. Yes we could have raised our prices to our customers like many companies did but we were making a fair margin and wanted to keep our market share. You obviously did not benefit because you did not have a company doing this business. You only worked for the company. And yes I did sell out to a billion dollar company and semi retired because I do not want to work for a billion dollar company. So I started another company and 2 years later sold out again to another billion dollar company and semi retired again. But thanks to Biden driving oil prices and gas prices to record highs I started another business and will end up selling it to another billion dollar company. You in the other hand are still probably waiting on the next Biden handout. Big difference.Yes. You are correct. Trump put tariffs on China to protect USA manufacturing companies and China just devalued their currency. USA collected billions in tariffs and did give money to the farmers and other businesses that were hurt by unfair Chinese trade. And if you noticed there was virtually no inflation during Trump presidency. On the other hand Biden giveaways and failed policies have given USA record inflation hurting not only businesses but everyone in the USA.
Except it was not hindsight for JustTK, and it was not for me. TK said that he focused on his staying healthy and I rallied against lockdowns, travel bans, the vaccines when they did not work, social distancing, and masks in most cases. TK got blasted for "risking the lives of others" when he said he was not vaccinated, and I was called Elvira and Elvirus.
It is not 20-20 hindsight for him or me. You just have your head up in your butt.
And Fauci is the narcissitic lying megalomaniac or if you are a dumb Dem, that is otherwise known as a "scientific expert". This asshole funded creation of the virus who killed so many, and this fool directed most of the medical research in our country.
And remember when you are toasty this winter and Europeans are freezing, the reason why you have that is because we Republicans fought the climate change nuts so hard. Thank God we have natural gas, coal, and nuclear to keep us warm.
If you are in Europe this winter with a wood burning stove, a pile of firewood, and ample toilet paper, the hot ladies will be knocking on your door asking to spend the night.Several countries in Europe raised their electric prices to consumers by 25% last week because of renewable energy disasters. Europe has decided to restart a significant amount of their coal fired power plants to try to get back to reliable and cost effective electricity. Do you think the USA is smart enough to avoid this. I know California is not smart enough because we have the dumbest dems in the country. California is among the highest electricity costs in the USA and expected to raise prices like Europe as we do not have a reliable supply of electricity.
Give me the Dem Party of the 1940's, of the FDR era, then I would agree w you. BUt that is a dream of a bygone time. Now its neolibs vs neocons, as has been for decades. And the end result from the difference between the two is not worth voting for bcos it delays the opportunity for real change. You are the obstacle, not me. You are standing for a neo-lib corrupt party bcos you think they make life better for the USA, when it doesn't. Your Biden that kickstarts a huge world recession, that bombs innocent people for oil.
You keep saying that change cannot happen. At least not in your life time. Well, it won't happen if people like you get continue with their obstructionist attitudes.
I am a vegan, I know the differecne that baby steps can make. I know the world will not turn vegan overnight. BUt I certainly never thought "oh well, the world will never be vegan so what's the point? No. I committed to never being a part of the murderous animal abuse again. And now look what is ahppeneing. Some countries up to 10%. Nothing would change and no one would stand up for the voiceless if we followed your attitude.
And in politics. Well, voting is only one way to bring change. I think you only can imagine a 3rd party coming in to the elections and beginning to stand and compete on a slow gradual curve. Whereas there are ways and peeople that could bring about meteoric changes very rapidly. Get behind the movement instead of being scared by it.You said "And in politics. Well, voting is only one way to bring change. I think you only can imagine a 3rd party coming in to the elections and beginning to stand and compete on a slow gradual curve. Whereas there are ways and people that could bring about meteoric changes very rapidly. Get behind the movement instead of being scared by it."
The Libertarian Party has existed in the US for over 50 years. They have never gotten more than a few percentage points of the vote. Ever.
The Libertarian Party has existed in the US for over 50 years. They have never gotten more than a few percentage points of the vote. Ever.Right. So you have one example of a 3rd party failed attempt. What is that famous saying again "if at first you don't succeed, . Give up an accept the inevitable"?
Personally, I hope for revolution. Haven't had one of those for a while, have you.
Unfortunately, the morons and the scientifically ignorant said "See, all those people lied".
Now, we have vaccines. The idiots say "the vaccines don't work".
Unfortunately, the US is so dumbed-down educationally (especially in red states) that only 30-some-odd percent of the US population is fully boosted.BUt the truth is they did lie. Fauci, Trump, Biden. The lot of them. They told us the virus would be under control, they told us masks work, they told us masks don't work. They told us to wear masks outside / inside /5 m /3 m / don't go outside. They told us the vaccines would prevent transmission, they told us the vax would prevent you from killing someone else, they told us they would reduce all cause mortality, they told us we were a menace to society, they told us ALL to get a vax, they told us it couldn't possibly be a lab leak, but then it could. The problem is they TOLD US. They didn't say that they were unsure. They TOLD US these things as facts.
What evidence they had to support these statements was sketchy at best, often fraudulent and wrong. They should be held accountable for their lies, for ruining people lives. Their actions and staements have destroyed public trust, and that is perfectly understandable. I don't see how the world can ever recover from this episode TBH.
BUt the truth is they did lie. Fauci, Trump, Biden. Let me give you an example so we can agree on what a lie is, pvm.
Lets say you have a son. You tell your son your going to buy him a new bike if he passed his exams. He tells you the next day he passed (maybe he even thinks he did), and can he have his bike now?
Is that a lie? Of course it is. Surely we can agree on that?
Several countries in Europe raised their electric prices to consumers by 25% last week because of renewable energy disasters. Europe has decided to restart a significant amount of their coal fired power plants to try to get back to reliable and cost effective electricity. Renewable energy, huh? That's why?
So those little things like Putin's war on Ukraine and his energy war on Europe have nothing to do with this?
Let me give you an example so we can agree on what a lie is, pvm.
Lets say you have a son. You tell your son your going to buy him a new bike if he passed his exams. He tells you the next day he passed (maybe he even thinks he did), and can he have his bike now?
Is that a lie? Of course it is. Surely we can agree on that?JustTK you really need to work on your basic language skills. Who lied in your example? You didn't complete the premise. I can't say if the kid lied because he didn't pass the exams or the father lied because he didn't buy him a bike. I could add a hundred endings which would make neither a liar, or one or the other, or both. Sheesh.
ScatManDoo
09-03-22, 21:46
BUt the truth is they did lie. Fauci, Trump, Biden. The lot of them. They told us the virus would be under control, they told us masks work, they told us masks don't work. They told us to wear masks outside / inside /5 m /3 m / don't go outside. They told us the vaccines would prevent transmission, they told us the vax would prevent you from killing someone else, they told us they would reduce all cause mortality, they told us we were a menace to society, they told us ALL to get a vax, they told us it couldn't possibly be a lab leak, but then it could. The problem is they TOLD US. They didn't say that they were unsure. They TOLD US these things as facts.
What evidence they had to support these statements was sketchy at best, often fraudulent and wrong. They should be held accountable for their lies, for ruining people lives. Their actions and staements have destroyed public trust, and that is perfectly understandable. I don't see how the world can ever recover from this episode TBH.The sky didn't fall Chicken Little.
The people you want hung by their thumbs were constantly getting conflicting information, but had positions that required their best guesses regarding outcomes.
You plan to protest outside the house he's lived in the past 45 years with his wife, where they raised their three daughters?
It must burn your ass that last year Fauci made $480,654 working for the NIAID, making him the highest paid USA Government employee.
Give me the Dem Party of the 1940's, of the FDR era, then I would agree w you. BUt that is a dream of a bygone time. Now its neolibs vs neocons, as has been for decades. And the end result from the difference between the two is not worth voting for bcos it delays the opportunity for real change. You are the obstacle, not me. You are standing for a neo-lib corrupt party bcos you think they make life better for the USA, when it doesn't. Your Biden that kickstarts a huge world recession, that bombs innocent people for oil.
You keep saying that change cannot happen. At least not in your life time. Well, it won't happen if people like you get continue with their obstructionist attitudes.
I am a vegan, I know the differecne that baby steps can make. I know the world will not turn vegan overnight. BUt I certainly never thought "oh well, the world will never be vegan so what's the point? No. I committed to never being a part of the murderous animal abuse again. And now look what is ahppeneing. Some countries up to 10%. Nothing would change and no one would stand up for the voiceless if we followed your attitude.
And in politics. Well, voting is only one way to bring change. I think you only can imagine a 3rd party coming in to the elections and beginning to stand and compete on a slow gradual curve. Whereas there are ways and peeople that could bring about meteoric changes very rapidly. Get behind the movement instead of being scared by it.Proving once again that Bothsiders / Neithersiders retreat to a noncommittal Bothsider / Neithersider position because they desperately want to contribute something to the discussion, preferably to come out winning on Both Sides, but don't really know enough about the topic to win anything legitimately.
Uh, big, big changes happen all the time as the result of our votes:
Repub Hoover had a gigantic Depression and lost millions of jobs. Dem FDR had a historic recovery and created millions of jobs.
Repub Eisenhower had 3 Recessions and produced one of the worst jobs creation results of any modern president. Dems JFK / LBJ had no Recession and produced one of the greatest jobs creation results ever.
Dem Jimmy Carter had a tiny pull back, it barely qualified as a Recession and it was purposely induced by the Fed in order to cool down an over-heated economy that was producing way more jobs than there were applicants to take them. That resulted in one of the best average annual jobs creation records of all time. Repub Reagan had one of the worst Recessions on record, the declining unemployment rate he inherited skyrocketed into double digits for almost a solid year and his average annual jobs creation was middling, significantly less than Carter's.
And, unlike Dem Carter, Repub Reagan tripled the national debt in order to under perform Carter's jobs cteation results.
Repub GHW Bush had a long Recession in 4 his years and one of the worst jobs creation records of any president. Dem Clinton had no Recession in his 8 years and produced one of the greatest jobs creation records in history.
Repub GW Bush had two Recessions, the second one so deep and horrible his own Treasury Secretary warned it might "destroy Capitalism as we know it". The unemployment rate skyrocketed and his jobs creation record was one of the worst in history. Dem Obama had no Recession in his 8 years and oversaw one of the longest and steadiest economic recoveries and jobs creation in history.
Repub Trump's "best" years fell below average among the 11 most recent presidents, wasted Trillions in deficit spending to under perform. Then he blathered, bumbled, left the country bare-ass naked against preventing or responding to it and eventually lied the world into a historic Pandemic that mass murdered millions, destroyed worldwide economies and supply-chains, skyrocketed the unemployment rate, plunged us into Recession and produced the worst jobs creation record since Repub Herbert Hoover.
Dem Joe Biden in just 19 months fully recovered all of the millions upon millions of jobs lost under Repub Trump and drove the unemployment rate back down to "Full Employment" level in record time.
Dem Biden has also so far managed to pay down the massive record high debt Repub Trump racked up and has not yet overseen a meaningful or official Recession despite the fact that the Fed is once again trying to induce a controlled one for the same reason they did so under Carter; Biden's strong economy is producing way too many jobs.
So, you see, there has been huge and dramatic change occurring in the country all throughout your lifetime. And, yessiree, it most definitely changed for the worst and for the best based on how the votes went virtually each and every time.
My Dem votes since 1972 resulted in all of those historically positive changes for the country while your Repub / Bothsider / Neithersider votes resulted in all the historically negative changes made to the country since however long you've been voting that way.
ScatManDoo
09-04-22, 00:38
Marvelous satire from Dana Millbank:
"I'm so sorry you've convinced millions of people to believe the egregious lie that the 2020 election was stolen. I'm sorry you are making heroes of the criminals who attacked our seat of government. I'm sorry you're currently fomenting violence against the FBI and the IRS. I'm sorry you're passing laws giving yourselves more power to overthrow the 2024 election results if you lose, and I'm sorry you're nominating candidates committed to doing so. I'm sorry you don't like it when the Justice Department enforces the law and protects national security. I'm sorry you've lionized Hungarian strongman Viktor Orban, and I'm sorry you say that the Democratic Party, not Vladimir Putin's Russia, is the real enemy. I regret that you've taken away women's rights. I regret that you're banning books and censoring history lessons. I regret that you are shunning science, expertise and the truth. Above all, I'm truly sorry that, because of such things, Biden called you semi-fascists. There's really nothing 'semi' about it."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/09/02/kevin-mccarthy-joe-biden-semi-fascism-trump/That article had numerous good sections:
I regret that the heads and bodies of police officers got in the way of your truncheons and flagpoles while you were engaging in Legitimate Political Discourse at the Capitol. I hope that you didn't hurt your fingers while gouging their eyes, and that their blood didn't stain your tactical assault gear; if it did, please send me the dry-cleaning bill! I am so sorry that, on your Normal Tourist Visit, you didn't get to use your noose or all the guns stockpiled at the Comfort Inn in Alexandria. Please forgive me for previously quibbling with your plan to "hang Mike Pence" and your use of the Confederate flag in the halls of Congress. I apologize that you had to break windows and doors, climb scaffolding and rappel into the Senate chamber. My bad! Next time you want to overthrow an American election, just knock.
Thanks for admitting you never had any contracts with China. But it does not hide the fact that you lied in your first post.Did you provide copies of actual contracts to back up your BS? Nope.
Case closed. All sizzle. No steak.
Renewable energy, huh? That's why?
So those little things like Putin's war on Ukraine and his energy war on Europe have nothing to do with this?Are you saying Putin shut off the electricity too? Putin is oil and gas. He does not raise prices on electricity in Europe.
Be very wary of anything Napolitano and Barr contribute to this. As long time Repubs and / or FUX News darlings, they are by definition America-hating liars until proven otherwise.
Sure, they might be speaking the truth here and there. Same as Bolton.
However, it is far more likely their game is to get rid of Repub King Midas In Reverse Trump ASAP, preferably in prison and as far away from their beloved Repub Party as possible. And, for the love of god, for him to STFU about endorcing Repub candidates in the primaries only for them to go down in flames in the real election (see my previous post about his sterling election record since Repub Herbert Hoover).
They see where the polls are headed going into the midterm. They are pulling all the stops to dismiss and silence Trump before he manages to flip that ultra traditional advantage for Repubs this time around into another Trump-induced historic win for the Dems.Remember that this post was meant to pull the chain of the Moron Brigade who defend Donnie the Dumbass to the max.
What I really wanted was to get a reaction from them because they are sooooooo stupid. Barr is a RINO! Napolitano is a RINO! In fact, every RethugliKKKan who criticizes Donnie the Dumbass is a RINO!
Hey, I think having a Republican party which actually tries to govern is a good thing.
But, the current Republican party of whiny crybabies is ridiculous. They play the victim really well, though. Oooooohhhhh, the FBI raided Donnie the Dumbass' house! Oooooohhhhh Biden called all of us racists and fascists out! We're upset that he called us semi-racists. Semi indeed! We are full on racists and fascists (but we're too dumb to know what a Fascist really is). Ooooooohhhhhhh, we get upset that people call us RethugliKKKans! We've never worn a KKK hood but we hate (not in order): Mexicans, Muslims, non-white people, non-Christian people, LGBTQ+ people, anybody of color, actually anybody who isn't white and straight. We're "constitutional originalists", except when it comes to stuff we don't agree with. (Like having to own a house to vote).
And the best? Ooooooohhhhh, we'll vote against our best interests because our sole mission in life is to "own the libs". In fact, if "owning the libs" means cutting off our welfare payments and stopping our Social Security payments, we're all for it. We're so dumb, we'll never complain.
JustTK you really need to work on your basic language skills. Who lied in your example? You didn't complete the premise. I can't say if the kid lied because he didn't pass the exams or the father lied because he didn't buy him a bike. I could add a hundred endings which would make neither a liar, or one or the other, or both. Sheesh.JustTK is an idiot. Just not as dumb as the Moron Brigade.
BUt the truth is they did lie. Fauci, Trump, Biden. The lot of them. They told us the virus would be under control, they told us masks work, they told us masks don't work. They told us to wear masks outside / inside /5 m /3 m / don't go outside. They told us the vaccines would prevent transmission, they told us the vax would prevent you from killing someone else, they told us they would reduce all cause mortality, they told us we were a menace to society, they told us ALL to get a vax, they told us it couldn't possibly be a lab leak, but then it could. The problem is they TOLD US. They didn't say that they were unsure. They TOLD US these things as facts.
What evidence they had to support these statements was sketchy at best, often fraudulent and wrong. They should be held accountable for their lies, for ruining people lives. Their actions and staements have destroyed public trust, and that is perfectly understandable. I don't see how the world can ever recover from this episode TBH.Actually, the only people who believe that the actions of Fauci, etc have destroyed the public trust are morons. Sure, people who don't understand science don't believe anything. People who don't understand viruses and vaccines don't believe anything. People who don't know diddly-shit about anything but their long-neck Bud and their single-wide don't believe anything.
And you know who most of those denier's are? RethugliKKKans. You might not be a RethugliKKKan but you do believe all of the RethugliKKKan BS. Yep, the vax will alter your DNA, the vax contains microchips, the vax this, the vax that, the vax some other damn thing.
The people you want hung by their thumbs were constantly getting conflicting information, but had positions that required their best guesses regarding outcomes.
You plan to protest outside the house he's lived in the past 45 years with his wife, where they raised their three daughters?
If they were "constantly getting conflicting information" why did they make these statements as facts? That merely proves my point.
If I were to protest outside his house then I would have to go to the USA, smthg I would never do, and I don't even think I am currently allowed to do. Does one still need a vax to enter??
Repub Hoover had a gigantic Depression and lost millions of jobs. Dem FDR had a historic recovery and created millions of jobs. Repub Eisenhower had 3 Recessions and produced one of the worst jobs creation results of any modern president. Dems JFK / LBJ had no Recession and produced one of the greatest jobs creation results ever.
... Repub Trump's "best" years fell below average ...
My Dem votes since 1972 resulted in all of those historically positive changes for the country while your Repub / Bothsider / Neithersider votes resulted in all the historically negative changes made to the country since however long you've been voting that way.I presume you have this passage saved somewhere on your computer so you can copy and paste it, which you do every week. All you talk about is the economy. We have agreed before that the Dems have a better record than the Reps. But TBH, that is one of the least interesting things to me. Its super boring. Take care of relations, and a country with such geographical and geological advantages as the USA should be able manage itself. I am concerned about the role the USA plays on the world stage. It is the world super-villain. Countless international crimes, every year, Dems and Reps alike. But typically, that doesn't seem to bother you, bcos your the beneficiary, not the victim.
Also, just in case you haven't noticed, I am not a USAn. I have never voted in the USA. All I can do is stand at the side and despair at what passes for 'democracy' in the world's ailing super power.
I am an anarchist, not a communist. I beleive in transnationalism. ... Imagine, if you will, the USA as a template for the world. Anyone can go and live or work anywhere they like. Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world.
Let me ask you a question, again:
Q. If you absolutely had to choose between Dems or Repubs, with "gun/pistol to your head" (figuratively speaking of course), which of the two (2) parties do you honestly think will get you closer to your "promised land" or utopian unfettered borderless world?
Several countries in Europe raised their electric prices to consumers by 25% last week because of renewable energy disasters. Europe has decided to restart a significant amount of their coal fired power plants to try to get back to reliable and cost effective electricity. Do you think the USA is smart enough to avoid this. I know California is not smart enough because we have the dumbest dems in the country. California is among the highest electricity costs in the USA and expected to raise prices like Europe as we do not have a reliable supply of electricity.The price of gas has gone up 500%, how much has the price of sunlight and wind gone up? The reason electricity prices have not gone up nearly as much as fossil fuel prices is that it is not cost any more to generate electricity from renewables which has helped keep prices lower. No wonder Europe is doubling down on building even more renewable power.
I presume you have this passage saved somewhere on your computer so you can copy and paste it, which you do every week. All you talk about is the economy. We have agreed before that the Dems have a better record than the Reps. But TBH, that is one of the least interesting things to me. Its super boring. Take care of relations, and a country with such geographical and geological advantages as the USA should be able manage itself. I am concerned about the role the USA plays on the world stage. It is the world super-villain. Countless international crimes, every year, Dems and Reps alike. But typically, that doesn't seem to bother you, bcos your the beneficiary, not the victim.
Also, just in case you haven't noticed, I am not a USAn. I have never voted in the USA. All I can do is stand at the side and despair at what passes for 'democracy' in the world's ailing super power.Oh, yes, I had no idea that "mess" you say we are in from (Repub) time to (Repub) time is only about how we feel and nothing about the "boring" topic of massive job losses, crippling unemployment, the huge income gap between the top 5% and everyone else, etc. Not that those results would have anything to do with how people "feel", right?
Take care of relations, and a country with such geographical and geological advantages as the USA should be able manage itself.Then I guess the Repubs' results coming from that angle must be just as bad and demonstrably inferior to that of the Dems as the more direct routes such as, you know, tax policy, healthcare legislation, infrastructure legislation, effective trade deals, responsible budget balancing, funding education, funding law enforcement needs, establishing and funding effective national security protections, etc.
You're right, I have probably underestimated how much damage Repubs have done to America due to how they make us all "feel" rather than primarily from the stuff you can actually quantify, cite and verify in the data and historical results.
Of course, arguing on that basis is pathetically weak compared to basing it on tangible, provable factors. But if it makes you "feel" better, be my guest.
Are you saying Putin shut off the electricity too? Putin is oil and gas. He does not raise prices on electricity in Europe.And exactly where in his post did the OP mention that Putin shut off electricity? Or even mention electricity at all?
MarquisdeSade1
09-04-22, 16:28
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2022/09/03/brooks-biden-should-have-called-out-his-own-party-for-giving-millions-to-maga-wing-if-its-such-a-threat/
Oh, yes, I had no idea that "mess" you say we are in from (Repub) time to (Repub) time is only about how we feel and nothing about the "boring" topic of massive job losses, crippling unemployment, the huge income gap between the top 5% and everyone else, etc. Not that those results would have anything to do with how people "feel", right?
Then I guess the Repubs' results coming from that angle must be just as bad and demonstrably inferior to that of the Dems as the more direct routes such as, you know, tax policy, healthcare legislation, infrastructure legislation, effective trade deals, responsible budget balancing, funding education, funding law enforcement needs, establishing and funding effective national security protections, etc.
You're right, I have probably underestimated how much damage Repubs have done to America due to how they make us all "feel" rather than primarily from the stuff you can actually quantify, cite and verify in the data and historical results.
Of course, arguing on that basis is pathetically weak compared to basing it on tangible, provable factors. But if it makes you "feel" better, be my guest.JustTK's game in ISG is far left Chomsky-esque anti-Americanism, IE. The US is hiding in every Bush and is responsible for all the evil in the world. You of course have your Repub / Dem dichotomy going in economic analysis so you are essentially talking past one another. Your only meeting point is that you both want to argue every day including weekends and holidays. Wink.
The price of gas has gone up 500%, how much has the price of sunlight and wind gone up? The reason electricity prices have not gone up nearly as much as fossil fuel prices is that it is not cost any more to generate electricity from renewables which has helped keep prices lower. No wonder Europe is doubling down on building even more renewable power.You are correct on one thing. Under Biden energy policy has has gone up 500%. Oil has gone up 100%. Great job Brandon.
Oh, yes, I had no idea that "mess" you say we are in from (Repub) time to (Repub) time is only about how we feel and nothing about the "boring" topic of massive job losses, crippling unemployment, the huge income gap between the top 5% and everyone else, etc.
Then I guess the Repubs' results coming from that angle must be just as bad and demonstrably inferior to that of the Dems as the more direct routes such as, you know, tax policy, healthcare legislation, infrastructure legislation, effective trade deals, responsible budget balancing, funding education, funding law enforcement needs, establishing and funding effective national security protections, etc.
You are drawing conclusions that are not supported by the data. The fact that the Dems have a better historic record than the Reps on the economy does not mean:
- that the modern Dems have good econimic polcies.
- that the modern Dems have a better record on any single policy (rather, they have a better record in aggregate).
- that they Dems do a good job (rather, that they have done a better job than the Reps).
- that the Dems have a good track record on non-economy policy, such as international policy.
2 examples to support my point -.
1. USA support of regime change / military actions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations
You can clearly see that it really doesn't matter who is in charge. The polciy is always the same. Lets make war to make us rich.
2. Income inequality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States
"The USA Has the highest level of income inequality among its (post-) industrialized peers".
If the Dems were doing such a great job to help the people, then why do we see such an appalling disparity in income?
I could mention lack of public health care, lack of free education. If the Dems were doing a great job, where is it?
Obviously you will just blame the Reps, bcos that's all you do. I see it in every post you make. Its like the Dems are incapable of reversing out anything that the Reps did.
If the Dems were doing such a great job to help the vast majority of the people, they wouldn't be voted out every 8 years by a worse party. We would see staggeringly better economic indicators. Instead we see a slow down sprial of a falling giant, as both parties try to squeeze what's left out of the dying beast.
Let me ask you a question, again:
Q. If you absolutely had to choose between Dems or Repubs, with "gun/pistol to your head" (figuratively speaking of course), which of the two (2) parties do you honestly think will get you closer to your "promised land" or utopian unfettered borderless world?That question. Is like if I were to ask you - "which would you prefer me to do, rape your daughter or rape your wife?
ScatManDoo
09-04-22, 18:04
If they were "constantly getting conflicting information" why did they make these statements as facts? That merely proves my point.
If I were to protest outside his house then I would have to go to the USA, smthg I would never do, and I don't even think I am currently allowed to do. Does one still need a vax to enter??You would need all your shots.
You've just proven to the board that there is no valid point for this last stand.
I (we all) saw scores of public statements made by the respected Dr, Fauci.
Like many scientists, he was constantly including in his statements weasel clauses like "to the best of our knowledge" or "As we're finding out with study" and always warning that recommendations could change.
This position that professionals getting better & changing best practices is proof that they were professionally deficient earlier is a stupid position. It garners laughs every time you write it.
MarquisdeSade1
09-04-22, 18:26
The world needs more bus drivers and cops like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TphCi4zH1sk
https://stormer-daily.rw/cops-release-video-of-dumb-*****-getting-decked-out-by-bbg-cop/
For sure that ***** had it coming, but listen – they've all got it coming. The cops could go around decking bitches in their mouths and laying them out with assurance that they've got it coming. Because all women have a straight-up knock-out coming.
I'll tell you what – I love this video.
You are drawing conclusions that are not supported by the data. The fact that the Dems have a better historic record than the Reps on the economy does not mean:
- that the modern Dems have good econimic polcies.
- that the modern Dems have a better record on any single policy (rather, they have a better record in aggregate).
- that they Dems do a good job (rather, that they have done a better job than the Reps).
- that the Dems have a good track record on non-economy policy, such as international policy.
2 examples to support my point -.
1. USA support of regime change / military actions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations
You can clearly see that it really doesn't matter who is in charge. The polciy is always the same. Lets make war to make us rich.
2. Income inequality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States
"The USA Has the highest level of income inequality among its (post-) industrialized peers".
If the Dems were doing such a great job to help the people, then why do we see such an appalling disparity in income?
I could mention lack of public health care, lack of free education. If the Dems were doing a great job, where is it?
Obviously you will just blame the Reps, bcos that's all you do. I see it in every post you make. Its like the Dems are incapable of reversing out anything that the Reps did.
If the Dems were doing such a great job to help the vast majority of the people, they wouldn't be voted out every 8 years by a worse party. We would see staggeringly better economic indicators. Instead we see a slow down sprial of a falling giant, as both parties try to squeeze what's left out of the dying beast.Past history is irrelevant. Current times show the dems failing the American people. Look at Biden and the current dems last 18 months. Current history shows dems totally inept compared to all administrations in last 40 years.
1. Crime and murders skyrocketing especially in dem run states.
2. Border security at worst level ever with millions of illegals just walking across the border.
3. Highest inflation in 40 years.
4. Natural gas prices up 400-500%.
5. Gas prices and oil prices up over 100%.
6. food prices up 26%.
7. War in Ukraine and possible war in Taiwan with world instability increasing daily.
8. Fentanyl coming across our open borders killing record number of Americans.
9. Cancel culture and wokeness extreme.
10. Disaster in Afghanistan leaving billions of dollars of weapons for the Taliban to use for terror.
11. Most divisive president in USA history.
12. Highest level of human trafficking especially minors across our open border.
13. Interest rates skyrocketing.
14. Retirees 401 K shrinking daily.
15. Recession approaching quickly.
The world is laughing at the USA. They love Biden. They love that fact that Biden is destroying the USA.
And exactly where in his post did the OP mention that Putin shut off electricity? Or even mention electricity at all?I wrote: Several countries in Europe raised their electric prices to consumers by 25% last week because of renewable energy disasters. Europe has decided to restart a significant amount of their coal fired power plants to try to get back to reliable and cost effective electricity. And you replied Putin was to blame for Europe electric energy. Is he to blame for electricity to go up 25% or not?
If they were "constantly getting conflicting information" why did they make these statements as facts? That merely proves my point.
If I were to protest outside his house then I would have to go to the USA, smthg I would never do, and I don't even think I am currently allowed to do. Does one still need a vax to enter??So here's what you say you want from the experts:
Reporter: "So, Dr. , Fauci, how does this virus spread"?
Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. Maybe by touch, maybe somehow else. ".
Reporter: "Dr. Fauci, do masks work"?
Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. But it all depends on how the virus spreads and we don't know anything about that".
Reporter: "What about tRUMP's 'bright light' theory"?
Dr. Fauci: "If shoving a lightbulbs up your ass floats your boat, do it. But you might want to be careful trying to sit down".
Reporter: "What about alternative treratments. ".
Dr. Fauci: "Alternative treatments? Like massage? Like what? Who knows about alternative treatments. Maybe some work but maybe they don't. ".
The price of gas has gone up 500%, how much has the price of sunlight and wind gone up? The reason electricity prices have not gone up nearly as much as fossil fuel prices is that it is not cost any more to generate electricity from renewables which has helped keep prices lower. No wonder Europe is doubling down on building even more renewable power.Please provide proof of your statement that renewables help keep prices lower. Every report I see shows renewable energy increasing prices. Estimates show going to 50% renewable energy will increase electricity prices by at least 50% . Europe is increasing coal fired power at this moment. California has decided to not shut down another nuclear power plant along with 2 more natural gas power plants that were slated for closure July 15,2022. Reliable renewable energy is not here yet. It is decades away. Now the environmentalists in California don't like the idea that our beaches are going to have thousands of windmills. Won't those windmills create a great sunset. Only positive outcome of the windmills is that they will kill every seagull in CA.
You are correct on one thing. Under Biden energy policy has has gone up 500%. Oil has gone up 100%. Great job Brandon.The OP asked if the price if wind and sunlight has gone up. You didn't answer the question but, then again, you never do.
FYI, yesterday, the price of Brent crude was $93.02. When President Biden took office, the price of Brent Crude was $55.66. When I went to school, $55.66 times 2 is far higher than $93.02. But MAGAt math is different, I guess. Gee, you lied again.
Typical.
That question. Is like if I were to ask you - "which would you prefer me to do, rape your daughter or rape your wife?
Raping women, is where you mind goes w/r to anwsering question between Dems and Repubs? Really?
How does your raping women analogy, get you closer to your,
"Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world."???
Anywho, carry on, with your Bothsiderism.
Hopefully, many of your QAnon/Repubs cohorts, will follow suit and NOT VOTE (or vote independent) and continue to IGNORE the QAnon/Repub party, that remains the greater evil to a better democracy.
Elvis 2008
09-04-22, 23:49
So I read the stupid article you linked before, and it is written in August 2021.
The NIH did not fund "gain of function" research. https://www.bbc.com/news/57932699.And it is classic government bullshit. What does of gain of function mean? And we have this panel of experts who says that the NIH funding does not meet the definition of gain of function. This is what you dumb Dems do all the time. It is the famous Clinton line on what your definition of is is.
You do not listen to Jimmy Dore. In fact, some fool just waved his hand and said, "You know, Jimmy Dore is not that great of a source" as if Jimmy Dore is not quoting other things.
In this case, he was referencing this headline in Vanity Fair. This was written four months after the BBC one you linked. The headline reads, In Major Shift, NIH Admits Funding Risky Virus Research in Wuhan.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/nih-admits-funding-risky-virus-research-in-wuhan
So you are and were completely wrong and now the question is WTF do we do with you? It would be easy if you just admitted you were wrong, but you never do that. It is "never mind" and off to the next topic. The government releases a narrative and you dumb Dems totally buy in and do so even after the government changes its mind.
You cannot admit Rand Paul was right about this and Fauci was lying. Why? Why do you guys have such a vested interest in going against EVERYTHING Rand Paul says or does? If a Democrat is right or doing something virtuous, I can say it.
But no matter. Donnie the Dumbass, as has been pointed out multiple times, pulled US medical professionals out of China so that we had no warning.So the actual people who created the virus, the supposedly apolitical bureaucrats, who funded them are off the hook. Why? Why are you so angry at Trump and not the assholes who created the fucking virus?
TOf course, every RethugliKKKan moron (who has said that the vaccines are useless) won't admit who was in charge when the vaccines were developed. If anybody is to blame, it is that guy. You know, the one who takes all of the credit for the vaccine. Why, RethugliKKKans, do you not blame Donnie the Dumbass for the useless vaccine? Why? Huh?Because Trump did not mandate the vaccines. Because Trump did not drape himself up as a "scientist" and proclaim he was all knowing like Fauci. Trump did not say this was a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". I do not know any Republican who was against people electing to get the vaccine. Being forced to do it was something else.
As for real scientists, I will remind you that, The Great Barrington Declaration was authored by Sunetra Gupta of the University of Oxford, Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University, and Martin Kulldorff of Harvard University, it was drafted at the American Institute for Economic Research in Great Barrington, Massachusetts, signed there on 4 October 2020, and published on 5 October.
The declaration says that lockdowns have adverse effects on physical and mental health, for example, because people postpone preventive healthcare.
The authors say that, instead of protecting everyone, the focus should instead be on "shielding" those most at risk, with few mandatory restrictions placed on the remainder of the population.
Yes, these are scientists concerned with how the government was acting, and the government "scientists", Frances Collins and Fauci, used government emails and told them to take these people down. Hell, the Biden administration asked Twitter to censor a user who named himself Fake Fauci.
Political takedowns are not science. Censorship is not science. And worst of all, Fauci is now lying and saying he was not in favor of lockdowns or shutting down schools.
There should be common ground in saying we do not want our tax dollars to be used to fund the creation of a super virus that killed millions and did trillions of dollars of damage. There should be common ground in saying which scientists were right and which ones were wrong. Why can you not say even that? The only thing I can guess is because it gets in the way of the narrative that the pandemic was all Trump's fault.
Implicit in these discussions just like with Trump and the FBI is that government bureaucrats are on your side. The FBI is great. The NIH is awesome. Isn't the only reason you think that is because you think that they are on your side? And if they are, then we Republicans should not be spending our tax dollars on them.
If you cannot even admit that tax dollars being spent on the creation of a super virus was bad, then we need to split the country in half. WTF else are we supposed to do with you people?
MarquisdeSade1
09-05-22, 00:32
Raping women, is where you mind goes w/r to anwsering question between Dems and Repubs? Really?
How does your raping women analogy, get you closer to your,
"Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world."???
Anywho, carry on, with your Bothsiderism.
Hopefully, many of your QAnon/Repubs cohorts, will follow suit and NOT VOTE (or vote independent) and continue to IGNORE the QAnon/Repub party, that remains the greater evil to a better democracy.As he said its not bothsiderism, its neithersideism.
There is only one true God and that is Donald J Trump.
The mortal enemy of the WEF along with Vlad.
Back to JKs superb analogy.
Let me phrase it this way.
"gun to your head" or not LOL.
Would you rather blow and swallow Chuck Schumer or Mitch McConnell?
Would you rather get fucked up the ass / no lube by Chuck or Mitch?
Would you rather deep rim Chuck or Mitch?
So no force involved, blindly voting for the policies of the DNC or GOP.
You are just picking between the choices above.
Chuck or Mitch what's your flavor?
ScatManDoo
09-05-22, 01:05
Once again Canada caught in a lie reverts to spin to try to justify the lie. The tariffs are paid by the US consumers. Thats it. You said China paid. They didn't and don't. Just like Mexico didn't pay for the wall. So Trump hurt the farmers with his failed trade war and paid them off with funds taken from American consumers and you blame Biden for inflation when the root cause is Donnys stupid trade war and failed Covid response. Spin that!Canada can't.
You are correct on one thing. Under Biden energy policy has has gone up 500%. Oil has gone up 100%. Great job Brandon.So I blew up your comments for the idiocy they represent so rather than admit you are wrong you deflect to the US. So you write "Under Biden energy policy has has gone up 500% What does that even mean? He has 500% more policies? Truly outstanding information not that anyone can use it. Just before Covid the oil price was $70 - 75 for WTI. Now it is $88. That is about 22% in 3 years. Not bad after the disastrous Trump response to Covid when oil could not be given away. Given all the wells that were shut down and the refineries closed, never to reopen again during Trump and European wars Biden has done a fantastic job getting the oil price under control while achieving the greatest job figures of all time!
Like many scientists, he was constantly including in his statements weasel clauses like "to the best of our knowledge" or "As we're finding out with study" and always warning that recommendations could change.
I have heard him make these types of statements. Always as an excuse after someone has called him out for his lies. Its not a luaghung matter.
ErsatzJulian
09-05-22, 03:20
I (we all) saw scores of public statements made by the respected Dr, Fauci.
Like many scientists, he was constantly including in his statements weasel clauses like "to the best of our knowledge" or "As we're finding out with study" and always warning that recommendations could change.
This position that professionals getting better & changing best practices is proof that they were professionally deficient earlier is a stupid position. It garners laughs every time you write it.All the scientific knowledge that we rely on came about this way: an experiment suggests a certain thing is true; more experiments refine our understanding or they demonstrate that our original understanding is either wrong or incomplete and we have to throw everything out and start anew. The fact that Fauci qualifies his statements with phrases like "to the best our knowledge" and "as we're finding out with study" shows that he understands the scientific method and the limits of our knowledge, and that is why he is respected.
All the scientific knowledge that we rely on came about this way: an experiment suggests a certain thing is true; more experiments refine our understanding or they demonstrate that our original understanding is either wrong or incomplete and we have to throw everything out and start anew. The fact that Fauci qualifies his statements with phrases like "to the best our knowledge" and "as we're finding out with study" shows that he understands the scientific method and the limits of our knowledge, and that is why he is respected.See, public education in the USA has been so "dumbed down" (especially in states that voted for Donnie the Dumbass) that 74+ million voters have no clue about science or how it works. They don't understand vaccines or how they work. The have just enough brainpower to understand a 3-to-5-word slogan like "lock her up" or "make America great again" or "stop the steal". Anything more complicated is lost on them and they go through life wondering what happened.
That's why we hear so many ludicrous statements coming from the RethugliKKKan crowd which doesn't have enough IQ points to decorate a domino: "The vaccine contains microchips", "the vaccine will change your DNA", "Finland rakes their forests", "Chinese thermostats changed votes", "Jewish space lasers cause forest fires", "Italian satellites changed votes", "shoving a lightbulb up your ass will cure COVID", "injecting disinfectant cures COVID" or "tRUMP didn't actually have any classified documents". All of these statements are patently absurd, yet there are almost no RethugliKKKans who will argue against them.
When you're dealing with that kind of ignorance, you can't win. You just need to shake your head and wonder how some of these people manage to dress themselves. The scary thing is that they vote. Maybe we ought to go back to having an IQ test to get a ballot. The number of people voting RethugliKKKan would number in the single digits compared to the 81 million Democrats who'd receive a ballot.
So I read the stupid article you linked before, and it is written in August 2021.
And it is classic government bullshit. What does of gain of function mean? And we have this panel of experts who says that the NIH funding does not meet the definition of gain of function. This is what you dumb Dems do all the time. It is the famous Clinton line on what your definition of is is.
You do not listen to Jimmy Dore. In fact, some fool just waved his hand and said, "You know, Jimmy Dore is not that great of a source" as if Jimmy Dore is not quoting other things.
In this case, he was referencing this headline in Vanity Fair. This was written four months after the BBC one you linked. The headline reads, In Major Shift, NIH Admits Funding Risky Virus Research in Wuhan.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/nih-admits-funding-risky-virus-research-in-wuhan
So you are and were completely wrong and now the question is WTF do we do with you? It would be easy if you just admitted you were wrong, but you never do that. It is "never mind" and off to the next topic. The government releases a narrative and you dumb Dems totally buy in and do so even after the government changes its mind.
You cannot admit Rand Paul was right about this and Fauci was lying. Why? Why do you guys have such a vested interest in going against EVERYTHING Rand Paul says or does? If a Democrat is right or doing something virtuous, I can say it.
So the actual people who created the virus, the supposedly apolitical bureaucrats, who funded them are off the hook. Why? Why are you so angry at Trump and not the assholes who created the fucking virus?
Because Trump did not mandate the vaccines. Because Trump did not drape himself up as a "scientist" and proclaim he was all knowing like Fauci. Trump did not say this was a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". I do not know any Republican who was against people electing to get the vaccine. Being forced to do it was something else.
As for real scientists, I will remind you that, The Great Barrington Declaration was authored by Sunetra Gupta of the University of Oxford, Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University, and Martin Kulldorff of Harvard University, it was drafted at the American Institute for Economic Research in Great Barrington, Massachusetts, signed there on 4 October 2020, and published on 5 October.
The declaration says that lockdowns have adverse effects on physical and mental health, for example, because people postpone preventive healthcare.You are the one who has said that the vaccines are worthless. Just answer a couple of very simple questions: (1) "Who was the president when these worthless vaccines were created"? And (2) "Who paid millions of US funds to vaccine companies to develop these worthless vaccines"?
They are very simple questions. Each one requires a one word answer so your response does not require more than 3 words. But I'll bet you won't answer.
Oh, and FYI, re: Donnie the Dumbass's underatanding of viruses, etc. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/maybe-i-have-a-natural-ability-trump-plays-medical-expert-on-coronavirus-by-second-guessing-the-professionals/2020/03/06/3ee0574c-5ffb-11ea-9055-5fa12981bbbf_story.html.
"I like this stuff. I really get it," Trump boasted to reporters during a tour of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, where he met with actual doctors and scientists who are feverishly scrambling to contain and combat the deadly illness. Citing a "great, super-genius uncle" who taught at MIT, Trump professed that it must run in the family genes.
"People are really surprised I understand this stuff," he said. "Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability."
But for members of the general public alarmed by more than 300 diagnosed cases in the United States — including at least 21 that his administration announced Friday were discovered on a cruise ship off the San Francisco coast — Trump's performance during an impromptu 45-minute news conference at CDC was not necessarily reassuring."
Taking photos of classified information (as the FBI just did) is illegal. - But remove them from the white House is not???
... A "special master" is a an objective third party like a former judge who will review the documents and the FBI and DOJ are vehemently opposed...
...This latest outrage was because the FBI does not want anyone seeing those documents.... - They will present everything to the court before Donald go to jail...- But remove them from the White House is not?
- They will present everything to the court before Donald go to jail.
All the scientific knowledge that we rely on came about this way: an experiment suggests a certain thing is true; more experiments refine our understanding or they demonstrate that our original understanding is either wrong or incomplete and we have to throw everything out and start anew. The fact that Fauci qualifies his statements with phrases like "to the best our knowledge" and "as we're finding out with study" shows that he understands the scientific method and the limits of our knowledge, and that is why he is respected.True. And it requires far more attention to nuance and critical thinking than most if not all wingers can muster.
So here's what you say you want from the experts:
Reporter: "So, Dr. , Fauci, how does this virus spread"?
Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. Maybe by touch, maybe somehow else. ".
Reporter: "Dr. Fauci, do masks work"?
Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. But it all depends on how the virus spreads and we don't know anything about that".
Reporter: "What about tRUMP's 'bright light' theory"?
Dr. Fauci: "If shoving a lightbulbs up your ass floats your boat, do it. But you might want to be careful trying to sit down".
Reporter: "What about alternative treratments. ".
Dr. Fauci: "Alternative treatments? Like massage? Like what? Who knows about alternative treatments. Maybe some work but maybe they don't. ".Yep, you nailed it. That is exactly what they want. About everything.
Think how much easier it would be for them to argue that nobody knows anything, nothing works any better than anything else, who cares about democracy, it's the same as an authoritarian dictatorship. False equivalency! Bothsiderism! Neithersiderism! Anarchy!
LOL.
Past history is irrelevant. Current times show the dems failing the American people. Look at Biden and the current dems last 18 months. Current history shows dems totally inept compared to all administrations in last 40 years.
1. Crime and murders skyrocketing especially in dem run states.
2. Border security at worst level ever with millions of illegals just walking across the border.
3. Highest inflation in 40 years.
4. Natural gas prices up 400-500%.
5. Gas prices and oil prices up over 100%.
6. food prices up 26%.Correct. These are Biden's accomplishments. And when intelligent people bring these accomplishments to light the dumb people say he is doing a good job. They did a survey recently in New York asking people on the street what they thought of Biden job performance in the first 18 months of his presidency. Over 50% said they thought he was doing OK. They then asked what one thing that he did has made their life better and no one could give a positive answer. Biden policies have damaged 100% of the USA population's lifestyle. Biden is counting on democrats to continue to be dumb and be stupid enough to believe that none of his failures were his fault. He has blamed everyone for his disastrous presidency. The dumb continue to support him.
All the scientific knowledge that we rely on came about this way: an experiment suggests a certain thing is true; more experiments refine our understanding or they demonstrate that our original understanding is either wrong or incomplete and we have to throw everything out and start anew. The fact that Fauci qualifies his statements with phrases like "to the best our knowledge" and "as we're finding out with study" shows that he understands the scientific method and the limits of our knowledge, and that is why he is respected.I agree that's how science works. Try and error thru experimentation. Predicting results then testing for them repeatedly.
But none of the clowns qualified their statements when they made them. Chump, Biden, nor Fauci.
Chump didn't qualify his ridiculous claim that the vurus would be gone in X weeks, Biden didn't qualify his claim that you couldn; t catch the virus if you took the vaccine, and Fauci made countless unqualified claims. How do I know? Bcos I have watched them in uncut forms. They all make statements as if they are giving proclamations from on high.
I agree that's how science works. Try and error thru experimentation. Predicting results then testing for them repeatedly.
But none of the clowns qualified their statements when they made them. Chump, Biden, nor Fauci.
Chump didn't qualify his ridiculous claim that the vurus would be gone in X weeks, Biden didn't qualify his claim that you couldn; t catch the virus if you took the vaccine, and Fauci made countless unqualified claims. How do I know? Bcos I have watched them in uncut forms.So what would Dr. Fauci's "unqualified statements" look like? Like this?
Reporter: "So, Dr, Fauci, how does this virus spread"?
Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. Maybe by touch, maybe somehow else."
Reporter: "Dr. Fauci, do masks work"?
Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. But it all depends on how the virus spreads and we don't know anything about that".
Reporter: "What about tRUMP's 'bright light' theory"?
Dr. Fauci: "If shoving a lightbulbs up your ass floats your boat, do it. But you might want to be careful trying to sit down".
Reporter: "What about alternative treatments? "
Dr. Fauci: "Alternative treatments? Like massage? Like what? Who knows about alternative treatments. Maybe some work but maybe they don't. "
If Dr. Fauci would have said those things, you would have said something like "Expert? How can that be? He doesn't know anything. "
See, that's the problem here. If a subject-matter expert issues qualifying statements, they will soon be discounted as a subject-matter expert because of the qualifying statements. If they don't issue qualifying statements, then people will say they lied.
Sort of a no-win situation, wouldn't you say?
Otherwise, the GOP will have nothing to run on this midterm. Absolutely nothing.
Fuel prices may keep falling after Labor Day, could dip below $3 in some states
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/05/gasoline-prices-are-expected-to-continue-to-fall-after-labor-day-and-some-states-could-see-below-3.html?__source=androidappshare
Labor Day is here and summer driving season is coming to an end, without the protracted period of super high gasoline prices some had feared.
Prices at the pump could continue their two-month decline. GasBuddy expects some states could see prices average even below $3 per gallon at some point later this year.
Analysts warn the outlook for gasoline prices could change at any point, particularly if there is a hurricane affecting the U.S. Gulf Coast or there is a spike in oil prices.Not that they had a damn thing to run on even with higher gas prices on tap.
So here's what you say you want from the experts:
Reporter: "So, Dr. , Fauci, how does this virus spread"?
Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. Maybe by touch, maybe somehow else. ".
He doesn't need to swear in every sentence. Just tell the truth instead of spread unproven theories as fact.
What does of gain of function mean? And we have this panel of experts who says that the NIH funding does not meet the definition of gain of function. This is what you dumb Dems do all the time. It is the famous Clinton line on what your definition of is is.
You do not listen to Jimmy Dore. In fact, some fool just waved his hand and said, "You know, Jimmy Dore is not that great of a source" as if Jimmy Dore is not quoting other things. In this case, he was referencing this headline in Vanity Fair. This was written four months after the BBC one you linked. The headline reads, In Major Shift, NIH Admits Funding Risky Virus Research in Wuhan. So you are and were completely wrong
You cannot admit Rand Paul was right about this and Fauci was lying.
I will remind you that, The Great Barrington Declaration was authored by Sunetra Gupta of the University of Oxford, Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University, and Martin Kulldorff of Harvard University, The declaration says that lockdowns have adverse effects on physical and mental health, for example, because people postpone preventive healthcare.
And worst of all, Fauci is now lying and saying he was not in favor of lockdowns or shutting down schools.
There should be common ground in saying which scientists were right and which ones were wrong. Why can you not say even that? The only thing I can guess is because it gets in the way of the narrative that the pandemic was all Trump's fault.
Great post Elvis. It's easy to forget some of the BS that passed as news and fact over the past couple of years, bcos there was so much of it. You reminder me of some. .
All those folks in USA. You got the Opinion Plague. Everyone has an opinion, "all opinions are equally valid", no one can change it bcos everyone believes they are right.
As he said its not bothsiderism, its neithersideism.
You are just picking between the choices above.
Chuck or Mitch what's your flavor?Thank you MDS. That might be the first post you wrote that I actually understood.
So I blew up your comments for the idiocy they represent so rather than admit you are wrong you deflect to the US. So you write "Under Biden energy policy has has gone up 500% What does that even mean? He has 500% more policies? Truly outstanding information not that anyone can use it. Just before Covid the oil price was $70 - 75 for WTI. Now it is $88. That is about 22% in 3 years. Not bad after the disastrous Trump response to Covid when oil could not be given away. Given all the wells that were shut down and the refineries closed, never to reopen again during Trump and European wars Biden has done a fantastic job getting the oil price under control while achieving the greatest job figures of all time!Cali Guy is about 90% correct. OPEC Oil was about $52 when Biden took office and today OPEC oil is $99. So about a 100% increase. Natural gas was about $2.50 per mcf and now it is about $9.00 per mcf. But oil was $120 a barrel. Oil prices have come down with the USA going into recession that Biden has created. Only a fool would think that a president that puts their country into a recession is doing a fantastic job. But prices will start creeping up as OPEC knows that there is a fool in office in USA. They are meeting this week and will raise prices.
See, public education in the USA has been so "dumbed down" (especially in states that voted for Donnie the Dumbass) that 74+ million voters have no clue about science or how it works. They don't understand vaccines or how they work. The have just enough brainpower to understand a 3-to-5-word slogan like "lock her up" or "make America great again" or "stop the steal". Anything more complicated is lost on them and they go through life wondering what happened.
That's why we hear so many ludicrous statements coming from the RethugliKKKan crowd which doesn't have enough IQ points to decorate a domino: "The vaccine contains microchips", "the vaccine will change your DNA", "Finland rakes their forests", "Chinese thermostats changed votes", "Jewish space lasers cause forest fires", "Italian satellites changed votes", "shoving a lightbulb up your ass will cure COVID", "injecting disinfectant cures COVID" or "tRUMP didn't actually have any classified documents". All of these statements are patently absurd, yet there are almost no RethugliKKKans who will argue against them.
When you're dealing with that kind of ignorance, you can't win. You just need to shake your head and wonder how some of these people manage to dress themselves. The scary thing is that they vote. Maybe we ought to go back to having an IQ test to get a ballot. The number of people voting RethugliKKKan would number in the single digits compared to the 81 million Democrats who'd receive a ballot.I agree. An IQ test for voters would have been great in the past election. 75,000,000 of the people that voted for Biden would not have been able to vote. It would have been the biggest landslide ever for republicans.
You do not listen to Jimmy Dore. In fact, some fool just waved his hand and said, "You know, Jimmy Dore is not that great of a source" as if Jimmy Dore is not quoting other things......https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Dore
Let's just say Jimmy Dore is a comedian and his grasp of virology, immunology and epidemiology isn't exactly astute. But of course, that doesn't matter to someone who has an equally inept understanding of science.
Elvis 2008
09-05-22, 17:35
You are the one who has said that the vaccines are worthless. Just answer a couple of very simple questions: (1) "Who was the president when these worthless vaccines were created"? And (2) "Who paid millions of US funds to vaccine companies to develop these worthless vaccines"?
They are very simple questions. Each one requires a one word answer so your response does not require more than 3 words. But I'll bet you won't answer.Why does it matter who was president? Some president would have stood in the way of vaccine development? We the taxpayers paid for the vaccines.
Here is Fauci lying about lockdowns in his own words: https://www.onenewspage.com/video/20220825/14822388/Fauci-Caught-in-Another-Lie-About-Shutting-Down.htm.
Here he is lying about gain of function: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR5jtBtySsM.
The fact that Fauci qualifies his statements with phrases like "to the best our knowledge" and "as we're finding out with study" shows that he understands the scientific method and the limits of our knowledge, and that is why he is respected.
I (we all) saw scores of public statements made by the respected Dr, Fauci.
Like many scientists, he was constantly including in his statements weasel clauses like "to the best of our knowledge" or "As we're finding out with study" and always warning that recommendations could change.
This position that professionals getting better & changing best practices is proof that they were professionally deficient earlier is a stupid position. It garners laughs every time you write it.I respect Fauci's political acumen but as a scientist and physician, he is beyond awful.
You guys hate Trump so much you are willing to overlook his recommendation for the horrible lockdowns. Studies are showing the horrible effects now they have had on our youth and as one of the videos is showing Fauci is lying his ass off.
Your hatred for Trump is so deep that you do not care that he harmed children, that he funded creation of the virus, or the USA may have had more Covid deaths than anyone. No, all you care about is how someone who is supposed to be apolitical is on your side. If you cannot condemn the lying megalomaniac supposedly apolitical Fauci, and he is truly evil, than we need to split the country in half.
Elvis 2008
09-05-22, 17:47
Is this your last post before Gangster Trump go to jail for 20 years?
But remove them from the White House is not?
- They will present everything to the court before Donald go to jail.Did Hiliary Clinton take documents outside of the White House? How about Obama? You may accuse me of whataboutism but your guy Garland swore he was applying the law equally to both parties which we know when it comes to Republicans it is a lie. We already have word that the FBI has and had been slow walking the Hunter Biden case.
And yeah, you are right, the government will present to the court all the evidence it has on Trump. The part you do not get is that Trump will file a motion to toss the evidence, and that motion will be pushed up to SCOTUS, and they can toss all that evidence, and the government will have no choice but to drop the case.
Past history is irrelevant. Current times show the dems failing the American people. Look at Biden and the current dems last 18 months. Current history shows dems totally inept compared to all administrations in last 40 years.
1. Crime and murders skyrocketing especially in dem run states.
2. Border security at worst level ever with millions of illegals just walking across the border.
3. Highest inflation in 40 years.
4. Natural gas prices up 400-500%.
5. Gas prices and oil prices up over 100%.
6. food prices up 26%.LOL. Yeah, and everything was going perfectly in the 18 months before Biden took over.
Even better than the way things were going in the 6 months before Obama took over.
And the 6 months before Clinton took over.
And the 3 years before Carter took over.
And the 8 years before JFK / LBJ took over.
And the 4 years before FDR took over.
Yep. Dems just don't know how to play the winning hands they are always dealt by the outgoing Repubs. Lololol.
Think how much easier it would be for them to argue that nobody knows anything, nothing works any better than anything else, who cares about democracy, it's the same as an authoritarian dictatorship. False equivalency! Bothsiderism! Neithersiderism! Anarchy!
Caught in your own gishgallop there - "authoritarian dictatorship", "Anarchy" - how can it be both? Haha. Sounds like "Bothsiderism" to me.
LOL. Yeah, and everything was going perfectly in the 18 months before Biden took over.
Even better than the way things were going in the 6 months before Obama took over.
And the 6 months before Clinton took over.
And the 3 years before Carter took over.
And the 8 years before JFK / LBJ took over.
And the 4 years before FDR took over.
Yep. Dems just don't know how to play the winning hands they are always dealt by the outgoing Repubs. Lololol.Yes history shows that things were going perfectly after 2 years of Trump and then the China / Dem virus hit and ground was lost. But at the end of the Trump presidency even with Covid it was still much better than it is today. There was no inflation. Gas was $2. 00 a gallon. But most people don't care what happened 2 years ago. 5 years ago or 10 years ago. The majority of Americans worry about what their life is today. And it is far worst than even last year. 20,000,000 households are delinquent in paying their energy bills. Retired people are seeing their nest egg shrink and are forced to go back to work. Blacks and Hispanics are no better today than they were a year ago. Biden has the country in turmoil. Everyone but the rich are suffering one way or another. But you don't care because you are still collecting your social security check and living in a shithole country.
Why does it matter who was president? Some president would have stood in the way of vaccine development? We the taxpayers paid for the vaccines.
Here is Fauci lying about lockdowns in his own words: https://www.onenewspage.com/video/20220825/14822388/Fauci-Caught-in-Another-Lie-About-Shutting-Down.htm.
Here he is lying about gain of function: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR5jtBtySsM.
I respect Fauci's political acumen but as a scientist and physician, he is beyond awful.
You guys hate Trump so much you are willing to overlook his recommendation for the horrible lockdowns. Studies are showing the horrible effects now they have had on our youth and as one of the videos is showing Fauci is lying his ass off.
Your hatred for Trump is so deep that you do not care that he harmed children, that he funded creation of the virus, or the USA may have had more Covid deaths than anyone. No, all you care about is how someone who is supposed to be apolitical is on your side. If you cannot condemn the lying megalomaniac supposedly apolitical Fauci, and he is truly evil, than we need to split the country in half.So, you finally admit that it was Donnie the Dumbass who had horrible, non-working vaccines developed. You finally admit that Donnie the Dumbass made you pay for the non-working vaccines.
And here's another teaser for you. Anybody who has ever done construction (commercial or not) understands the concept of a performance bond. Especially somebody like Donnie the Dumbass who told everybody that he was a construction genius. Yet, for some reason, he was too fucking stupid to put a performance bond on the construction of the vaccines. What a fucking genius!
And yes, Donnie the Dumbass harmed children and he killed people. Yes, Donnie the Dumbass was a megalomaniac. Actually, Donnie the Dumbass was just a maniac, just like the cultists who support him.
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MarquisdeSade1
09-05-22, 21:55
Raping women, is where you mind goes w/r to anwsering question between Dems and Repubs? Really?
How does your raping women analogy, get you closer to your,
"Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world."???
Anywho, carry on, with your Bothsiderism.
Hopefully, many of your QAnon/Repubs cohorts, will follow suit and NOT VOTE (or vote independent) and continue to IGNORE the QAnon/Repub party, that remains the greater evil to a better democracy.Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is.
STILL FUCKING EVIL!!
DramaFree11
09-05-22, 23:45
Cali Guy is about 90% correct. OPEC Oil was about $52 when Biden took office and today OPEC oil is $99. So about a 100% increase. Natural gas was about $2.50 per mcf and now it is about $9.00 per mcf. But oil was $120 a barrel. Oil prices have come down with the USA going into recession that Biden has created. Only a fool would think that a president that puts their country into a recession is doing a fantastic job. But prices will start creeping up as OPEC knows that there is a fool in office in USA. They are meeting this week and will raise prices.So true, Biden and liberals are destroying America.
Caught in your own gishgallop there - "authoritarian dictatorship", "Anarchy" - how can it be both? Haha. Sounds like "Bothsiderism" to me.I was merely repeating the various stated goals of the various pro Repub campaigners and voters here, not from any specific one of you.
They each achieve their agenda differently, claim to do what they do for different reasons, but the end result is the same; they help Repubs win elections so they can better destroy the USA economy and wipe out millions of USA jobs.
Bothsiders, Neithersiders, Authoritarian Dictator lovers or Anarchists, it doesn't matter. They all help Repubs win elections.
See, "they" was the tell-tale word there.
A person would have to be one of the dumbest, most cognitively impaired and least perceptive numbskulls on two feet to ever have concluded in the midst of all the coverage and statements abundantly available everywhere in Real News Media that, oh, let's dance through a few of the dumbest conclusions; that wearing a mask was a miraculous 100% certain way to make Trump's Pandemic go away, that all real vaccines work 100% of the time to prevent every vaccinated person from testing positive for Trump's Pandemic virus, that a single shot of the vaccine will "cure" everyone of Trump's Pandemic virus and on and on with whatever other ridiculous assertions some of you wingers claim was a Biden or Fauci "lie".
It isn't like the 40+ times so-called potus Trump tried to convince the seriously cognitively impaired dummies who he knew only listened to and believed him that "It's disappearing. It will go away without a vaccine" and all that anti-science Trump horse crap.
You had a massive amount of context, prefaces, clarifying and follow up statements made by Biden and Fauci throughout the entire Trump's Pandemic ordeal, fully covered and repeatedly reported in Real News Media as well as, presumably, at least a 4th grade level of knowledge, comprehension and critical thinking to prevent you from being so blissfully easily confused and "misled" by any stray unintentional misstatement here and there or even by the truly damaging outright lies Trump told about it over and over again for almost a year.
You had a massive amount of context, prefaces, clarifying and follow up statements made by Biden and Fauci throughout the entire Trump's Pandemic ordeal, fully covered and repeatedly reported in Real News Media as well as, presumably, at least a 4th grade level of knowledge, comprehension and critical thinking to prevent you from being so blissfully easily confused and "misled" by any stray unintentional misstatement here and there or even by the truly damaging outright lies Trump told about it over and over again for almost a year.The way you brush aside any criticisms, any lies, broken promises, from the Dem side, and simply turn the laser back on Trump and his lies and errors. It just shows that YOU and the millions like you, are just as much a problem in the USA as the QAnon crazies and such like. You, just like them, are unable to stare at reality and face the truth. Unless people can admit to their own errors (or the errors of those that they support), there will never be any progress. Bring oiut the nukes.
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