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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KoXt9pZLGM
Please note he's singing "I'm proud to be an American," and "God bless the USA". Not "I'm proud to be a Democrat." Or "God bless the Democratic Party."Here's another excellent song from him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwSa1Ok6KN0
How awful for him to consider all choruses of "I'm proud to be an American" and "God bless the USA" that he sang all through Reagan's Great Recession and Skyrocketing Unemployment Rate, Bush1's pathetically low jobs creation and prolonged recession, GW Bush's horrific double Recessions including still another Great Repub Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction and Donald Trump's creation and exacerbation of Trump's Pandemic, Wiping Out Millions Upon Millions of Jobs as well as Mass Murdering more than a Million Americans so far before it damn well should have dawned on Greenwood that he should have slanted his lyrics a wee bit more toward a pro Democratic Party Partisan direction if he really gave a shit at all about America, Americans and the workingman.
What a sad lost opportunity and waste of his talent for so many critical years.I finally figured it out! In the real world, you're James Carville! Well, all I can say is you've done a superlative job of maintaining your cover, as one of the most knowledgeable posters in the Bangkok forum. It must have required an immense amount of on-line research. That's unless you were able to slip away from Mary Matalin for frequent visits to the Land of Smiles, which I seriously doubt.
Retail Group Retracts Startling Claim About Organized Shoplifting.
The National Retail Federation had said that nearly half of the industrys $94.5 billion in missing merchandise in 2021 was the result of organized theft.
It was likely closer to 5 percent, experts say.
Dec. 8, 2023
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/08/business/organized-shoplifting-retail-crime-theft-retraction.html#text=In%20 fact%2 see%20 retail%20 theft%20 has, fallen%207%20 percent%20 since%202019.
But in most major cities, shoplifting incidents have fallen 7 percent since 2019.That's right. Lower than pre Trump's Pandemic. Lower than under Trump.
Oh, if only there was somebody who has someone paying for his subscription to the NYT for those wonderful reports and articles and can post the entire report here.
Shhh. Don't anybody tell Bill Maher about this. He will have to re-write half of his 2024 Repub Election Campaign Biden / Dem-slamming jokes.
And, as usual, utterly lucid, cognitively competent and superior to any Repub's lunacy Joe Biden got it right on the reason Trump's Pandemic Recovery's inevitable transitory Inflation got to where it went and lingered as long as it did:
Biden turns up pressure on corporate price gouging as 2024 nears.
Dec. 1, 2023
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/12/01/biden-price-gouging-inflation/
'Excess profits at big energy and consumer companies pushed up inflation, report claims.
Dec. 8, 2023
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/08/excess-profits-of-big-firms-have-driven-up-inflation-report-claims.html?__source=androidappshare
Shhh. Don't anybody tell Larry Summers about this. He will have to cancel all of his typically pro Repub Mainstream Media 2024 Repub Election Campaign appearances.
Hell yeah! MILF's for Liberty! I'll take one of those over a hairy Commie any day! Maybe Lauren Boebert's a member? That MILF has some fine tata's! Why am I not surprised you'd think Lauren Opal Boebert's "tatas" are fine. IMHO, those so called "tatas"/tits of hers, are about as FAKE, as Trump's claims of election fraud, or his state's FAKE electors.
Fake electors in Wisconsin first to admit Biden won election and face and face penalty
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/06/wisconsin-fake-electors-admit-biden-won-2020-election
But then again, having FAKE tits w/r to MILFs for Liberty, would naturally make sense and align with their FAKE organization, mandate and charter.
Well if Rep.Lauren Opal Boebert (R-CO), is a member of the newly branded MILF's for Liberty, it wouldn't surprise me either, as the hypocrisy for "good family values" and non-groomers would be complete.
Maybe Repub Christian Ziegler, could get that "quality" raping time...I mean groping time, in with Opal Boebert, at the next showing/performance of Beetlejuice. That is of course, if Ziegler, doesn't go too far and Boebert, shoots his dick off....kkkk!
Well, stay tuned, as things are getting interesting:
"Video may contradict details of rape allegation against Christian Ziegler
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/648037-police-video-may-contradict-details-of-rape-allegation-against-christian-ziegler/
MarquisdeSade1
12-09-23, 18:33
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/12/09/cnns-avlon-dems-need-a-solution-on-out-of-control-crime-border-and-not-say-what-people-see-isnt-real/
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/12/09/cnns-avlon-dems-need-a-solution-on-out-of-control-crime-border-and-not-say-what-people-see-isnt-real/Yes, the Repub Pink Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House should stop stalling and finally fund the border control agent increases Biden has been asking for and the comprehensive Immigration Reform that Repubs have been avoiding since forever. Then the Lower Than Under Trump violent crime and murder rates will decline that much lower. However, those Repub Pink Tinklers are apparently too busy trying to Impeach President Hunter Biden and Outlaw Sex For Pleasure to get around to it. Oh well:
Reported violent crime rate in the United States from 1990 to 2022.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
(See Chart Below).
Killings in the U.S. are dropping at a historic rate. Will anyone notice?
Oct. 20, 2023
https://www.latimes.com/politics/newsletter/2023-10-20/killings-in-the-u-s-are-dropping-at-an-historic-rate-will-anyone-notice-essential-politics
Of course, the much, much bigger challenge then will be for Bill Maher and other pro Repub "Bothsiders" (LOL) in Mainstream Media to notice and mention it a bit more often. Which is always a huge challenge for Dems in election years.
The peak violent crime rate in the last 35 years or so was at the end of a 12 year run of Repubs in the White House. Well, only because Mass Murdering Americans by leaving us and the rest of the world bare ass naked against preventing and responding to the predictable potential spread of deadly viruses and lying for a critical year to exacerbate the Pandemic one USA so-called potus created is not technically considered a "violent" crime, that is.
But those rates are at or near historically low levels under Dem Biden, the record low during that time frame being under Dem Obama. Then again, Joe Biden was a major contributor to the historic success of that Dem Administration, too.
Thanks, Joe. Many times over.
MarquisdeSade1
12-11-23, 02:12
"Yes, the Repub Pink Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House should stop stalling and finally fund the border control agent increases Biden has been asking for and the comprehensive Immigration Reform that Repubs have been avoiding since forever. Then the Lower Than Under Trump violent crime and murder rates will decline that much lower. However, those Repub Pink Tinklers are apparently too busy trying to Impeach President Hunter Biden and Outlaw Sex For Pleasure to get around to it. Oh well:
Reported violent crime rate in the United States from 1990 to 2022.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
(See Chart Below).
Killings in the USA Are dropping at a historic rate. Will anyone notice?
Oct. 20,2023.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/newsletter/2023-10-20/killings-in-the-u-s-are-dropping-at-an-historic-rate-will-anyone-notice-essential-politics
Of course, the much, much bigger challenge then will be for Bill Maher and other pro Repub "Bothsiders" (LOL) in Mainstream Media to notice and mention it a bit more often. Which is always a huge challenge for Dems in election years.
The peak violent crime rate in the last 35 years or so was at the end of a 12 year run of Repubs in the White House. Well, only because Mass Murdering Americans by leaving us and the rest of the world bare ass naked against preventing and responding to the predictable potential spread of deadly viruses and lying for a critical year to exacerbate the Pandemic one USA so-called potus created is not technically considered a "violent" crime, that is.
But those rates are at or near historically low levels under Dem Biden, the record low during that time frame being under Dem Obama. Then again, Joe Biden was a major contributor to the historic success of that Dem Administration, too.
Thanks, Joe. Many times over. ".
Statistics don't Bullshit.
But Bullshitters use Statistics.
Thanks Bangkok Bob Many times over ROTFLMMFAO.
Rep. George Santos used his congressional campaign money for extensive self-care, according to a damning new report from the House ethics committee.
According to the report, Santos solicited donors for money that he ultimately spent on personal expenses, including subscriptions to the porn influencer platform OnlyFans, Sephora, Botox, and a $4,127.80 purchase at Hermes. The money, according to bank records obtained by House Ethics investigators, came from a corporate entity called Redstone Strategies, which Santos controlled. The New York Republican claimed Redstone which was not registered with the Federal Elections Commission was used to help his 2022 congressional campaign.
But House investigators found he sent money to his personal checking account and spent it on himself. "The funds were used to, among other things: pay down personal credit card bills and other debt; make a $4,127.80 purchase at Hermes; and for smaller purchases at OnlyFans; Sephora; and for meals and for parking," the report says. Based on the bank records made public by the House Ethics Committee, Business Insider could not identify which OnlyFans creators Santos subscribed to. Santos did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the subject.
Before Santos was spending tens of thousands of dollars on personal expenses and luxury goods, he had appeared to be in financial trouble, the report suggests. In April 2022, Santos's personal checking account had a balance of only $136.93, according to bank records included in the ethics report. He texted a donor asking for $6,000 "ASAP," which he said would be spent on campaign advertising, and claimed he meant to ask about it earlier. "Sorry I've been so frazzled I sat on this like a dum dum," Santos texted the donor.
Shortly after Santos received the $6,000, he transferred $5,000 to his personal account to pay his bills, according to the report. Investigators said they found no evidence any of the money was spent on advertising. Santos also used his campaign's credit card for travel on his honeymoon, spa services, and cosmetic procedures, according to the report. "For example, during the 2020 campaign, a $1,500 purchase on the campaign debit card was made at Mirza Aesthetics; this expense was not reported to the FEC and was noted as 'Botox' in expense spreadsheets," the report says.
Santos said that, following the report's release, he would no longer seek reelection in 2024.
Some of the personal expenses are alluded to in a federal fraud and campaign finance indictment against Santos, which is scheduled to go to trial in September 2024. The indictment alleges he embezzled campaign funds for luxury goods and other personal uses. Santos has pleaded not guilty to the charges.
https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/george-santos-spent-campaign-funds-on-onlyfans-botox-and-hermes-ethics-report-finds/articleshow/105270930.cms
All politicians regardless of party love pussy and ass!
MarquisdeSade1
12-11-23, 18:55
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/11/wsj-poll-donald-trumps-popularity-hits-record-high-bidens-falls-record-low/
"Yes, the Repub Pink Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House should stop stalling and finally fund the border control agent increases Biden has been asking for and the comprehensive Immigration Reform that Repubs have been avoiding since forever. Then the Lower Than Under Trump violent crime and murder rates will decline that much lower. However, those Repub Pink Tinklers are apparently too busy trying to Impeach President Hunter Biden and Outlaw Sex For Pleasure to get around to it. Oh well:
Reported violent crime rate in the United States from 1990 to 2022.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
(See Chart Below).
Killings in the USA Are dropping at a historic rate. Will anyone notice?
Oct. 20,2023.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/newsletter/2023-10-20/killings-in-the-u-s-are-dropping-at-an-historic-rate-will-anyone-notice-essential-politics
Of course, the much, much bigger challenge then will be for Bill Maher and other pro Repub "Bothsiders" (LOL) in Mainstream Media to notice and mention it a bit more often. Which is always a huge challenge for Dems in election years..We know your lord and savior avoids statistics like a vampire avoids sunlight. And for good reason:
Trump: The Economy Was Better In 2020 Than Under Biden. Yes, That 2020.
https://crooksandliars.com/2023/12/trump-economy-was-better-2020-under-biden
Another example of spectacular Trumpian bullshit, only possible without a single verifiable statistic in sight.
OK, to recap a few key points from the real world of facts and data:
Violent crime rate is lower now than virtually any time under Trump.
Murder rates are lower now than virtually any time under Trump.
Retail did not suffer significant losses due to shoplifting. If anything, the culprit was lousy management.
The economy is better, stronger, millions more jobs created and with trajectories heading in much more positive direction at this point in Biden's presidency than at this point in Trump's so-called presidency. This is even before Trump's efforts in 2018 and 2019 laid the foundation for and ushered in Trump's Pandemic and his lies about it all through 2020 wiped out millions upon millions of jobs, began its steady March to Mass Murdering more than a Million Americans, closed and shut down worldwide economies, decimated supply-chains, crippled affordable international travel and mongering perhaps forever, etc.
Oh, and the two big goals your lord and savior has promised to devote his first day as America's Kim Jong-un to are to finally build that wall, you know, like the one that kept Israel so safe from crossings that Netanyahu was thinking about erecting a statue to honor himself as National Security Hero of the Century and to "drill, baby, drill":
Uh.
Doubters Beware: U.S. Oil Production Is Setting New Records.
Oct. 8, 2023
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2023/10/08/doubters-beware-us-oil-production-is-setting-new-records/?sh=266018696767
One of my 2023 energy sector predictions was that U.S. oil production would set a new all-time high this year. After record-setting production thus far this year, it would take a collapse along the lines of the huge Covid drop seen in the spring of 2020 for the U.S. to not set a new annual production record for 2023.US oil output hits record as producers boost drilling efficiency.
Nov. 2, 2023
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-oil-output-hits-record-producers-boost-drilling-efficiency-kemp-2023-11-01/
U.S. oil and gas production has continued to rise as companies squeeze more from each well despite a fall in the number of rigs employed, with the industry boosting efficiency to offset the impact of lower prices.Oil market caught by surprise as US output surges.
Dec. 7, 2023
https://www.ft.com/content/3a1bbb09-863c-4c51-a8c0-31eac536b938
A heavy weight is leaning on global oil markets as prices slide to five-month lows: record US supply.
American crude oil production reached a fresh all-time high of 13.2mn barrels a day in September, according to figures released last week, more than any other country and accounting for about one in eight barrels of global output.Now, I realize those reports are all about statistics. But shouldn't someone mention that fact to the numbskulls cheering Numbskull King Trump's big pronouncement that he and only he can see to it that the USA will finally start drilling and producing a few barrels of oil for a change?
LOL. Obviously, Trump is praying for a repeat of the bit where Reagan took "Morning in America" credit for reducing inflation back in 1984 even though the rate of inflation began steadily declining almost a full year before he took office and all due to the heavy lifting and political risk-taking done by Jimmy Carter and his Fed Chairman appointee Paul Volcker, having zero to do with anything Reagan did back at the ranch riding his pony. Lolol.
MarquisdeSade1
12-12-23, 04:52
"We know your lord and savior avoids statistics like a vampire avoids sunlight. And for good reason:
Trump: The Economy Was Better In 2020 Than Under Biden. Yes, That 2020.
https://crooksandliars.com/2023/12/trump-economy-was-better-2020-under-biden
Another example of spectacular Trumpian bullshit, only possible without a single verifiable statistic in sight.
OK, to recap a few key points from the real world of facts and data:
Violent crime rate is lower now than virtually any time under Trump.
Murder rates are lower now than virtually any time under Trump.
Retail did not suffer significant losses due to shoplifting. If anything, the culprit was lousy management.
The economy is better, stronger, millions more jobs created and with trajectories heading in much more positive direction at this point in Biden's presidency than at this point in Trump's so-called presidency. This is even before Trump's efforts in 2018 and 2019 laid the foundation for and ushered in Trump's Pandemic and his lies about it all through 2020 wiped out millions upon millions of jobs, began its steady March to Mass Murdering more than a Million Americans, closed and shut down worldwide economies, decimated supply-chains, crippled affordable international travel and mongering perhaps forever, etc.
Oh, and the two big goals your lord and savior has promised to devote his first day as America's Kim Jong-un to are to finally build that wall, you know, like the one that kept Israel so safe from crossings that Netanyahu was thinking about erecting a statue to honor himself as National Security Hero of the Century and to "drill, baby, drill":
Uh.
Doubters Beware: USA Oil Production Is Setting New Records.
Oct. 8, 2023.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2023/10/08/doubters-beware-us-oil-production-is-setting-new-records/?sh=266018696767
US oil output hits record as producers boost drilling efficiency.
Nov. 2, 2023.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-oil-output-hits-record-producers-boost-drilling-efficiency-kemp-2023-11-01/
Oil market caught by surprise as US output surges.
Dec. 7, 202.
https://www.ft.com/content/3a1bbb09-863c-4c51-a8c0-31eac536b938
Now, I realize those reports are all about statistics. But shouldn't someone mention that fact to the numbskulls cheering Numbskull King Trump's big pronouncement that he and only he can see to it that the USA will finally start drilling and producing a few barrels of oil for a change?
LOL. Obviously, Trump is praying for a repeat of the bit where Reagan took "Morning in America" credit for reducing inflation back in 1984 even though the rate of inflation began steadily declining almost a full year before he took office and all due to the heavy lifting and political risk-taking done by Jimmy Carter and his Fed Chairman appointee Paul Volcker, having zero to do with anything Reagan did back at the ranch riding his pony. Lolol. ".
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/11/tucker-carlson-on-trump-prosecutions-youre-going-to-get-violence-if-you-keep-this-sh-t-up/
Yes, the Repub Pink Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House should stop stalling and finally fund the border control agent increases Biden has been asking for and the comprehensive Immigration Reform that Repubs have been avoiding since forever. Then the Lower Than Under Trump violent crime and murder rates will decline that much lower. However, those Repub Pink Tinklers are apparently too busy trying to Impeach President Hunter Biden and Outlaw Sex For Pleasure to get around to it. Oh well:
Reported violent crime rate in the United States from 1990 to 2022.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
(See Chart Below).
Killings in the U.S. are dropping at a historic rate. Will anyone notice?
Oct. 20, 2023
https://www.latimes.com/politics/newsletter/2023-10-20/killings-in-the-u-s-are-dropping-at-an-historic-rate-will-anyone-notice-essential-politics
Of course, the much, much bigger challenge then will be for Bill Maher and other pro Repub "Bothsiders" (LOL) in Mainstream Media to notice and mention it a bit more often. Which is always a huge challenge for Dems in election years.
The peak violent crime rate in the last 35 years or so was at the end of a 12 year run of Repubs in the White House. Well, only because Mass Murdering Americans by leaving us and the rest of the world bare ass naked against preventing and responding to the predictable potential spread of deadly viruses and lying for a critical year to exacerbate the Pandemic one USA so-called potus created is not technically considered a "violent" crime, that is.
But those rates are at or near historically low levels under Dem Biden, the record low during that time frame being under Dem Obama. Then again, Joe Biden was a major contributor to the historic success of that Dem Administration, too.
Thanks, Joe. Many times over.Well, I guess this is a logical progression. You believe the party of the President explains the state of the economy. Now you're correlating crime statistics with the party of the President.
The murder and negligent homicide rate and the property crime rate both peaked in 1980, Jimmy Carter's last full year in office. Policing, incarceration, rehabilitation and the like are mostly carried out at the state and local level, so I don't understand why we should blame Carter or Democratic Presidents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Property_Crime_Rates_in_the_United_States.svg
Well, stay tuned, as things are getting interesting:
"Video may contradict details of rape allegation against Christian Ziegler
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/648037-police-video-may-contradict-details-of-rape-allegation-against-christian-ziegler/Looks like you were premature in casting judgement upon poor Christian. Apparently the woman in question had been doing tequila shots all day getting ready for a wild time with the Ziegler's. She asked Christian to cum in her mouth so he wouldn't mess up her shirt.
Santos also used his campaign's credit card for travel on his honeymoon....All politicians regardless of party love pussy and ass!Or in Representative Santos' case, dick and ass! His hubby is a guy.
Yes, the Repub Pink Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House should stop stalling and finally fund the border control agent increases Biden has been asking for and the comprehensive Immigration Reform that Repubs have been avoiding since forever. Then the Lower Than Under Trump violent crime and murder rates will decline that much lower. However, those Repub Pink Tinklers are apparently too busy trying to Impeach President Hunter Biden and Outlaw Sex For Pleasure to get around to it. Oh well:
Reported violent crime rate in the United States from 1990 to 2022.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
(See Chart Below).
Killings in the U.S. are dropping at a historic rate. Will anyone notice?
Oct. 20, 2023
https://www.latimes.com/politics/newsletter/2023-10-20/killings-in-the-u-s-are-dropping-at-an-historic-rate-will-anyone-notice-essential-politics
Of course, the much, much bigger challenge then will be for Bill Maher and other pro Repub "Bothsiders" (LOL) in Mainstream Media to notice and mention it a bit more often. Which is always a huge challenge for Dems in election years.
The peak violent crime rate in the last 35 years or so was at the end of a 12 year run of Repubs in the White House. Well, only because Mass Murdering Americans by leaving us and the rest of the world bare ass naked against preventing and responding to the predictable potential spread of deadly viruses and lying for a critical year to exacerbate the Pandemic one USA so-called potus created is not technically considered a "violent" crime, that is.
But those rates are at or near historically low levels under Dem Biden, the record low during that time frame being under Dem Obama. Then again, Joe Biden was a major contributor to the historic success of that Dem Administration, too.
Thanks, Joe. Many times over.See the chart in that previous post showing USA violent crime rates peaking over the past 35 years at the end of a 12 year Soft on Crime Repub run in the White House and then dramatically and steadily declining toward record low rates under Dem Obama-Biden and, after an uptick under another Soft on Crime Do Nothing To Reduce Crime But Try To Build a Useless Netanyahu Wall That Mexico Did Not Pay For Repub Trump Administration, to another recent record low rate under Dem Biden-Harris?
Yeah, this is one of the major contributors to that decline that began in 1994. Which, oh by the way, like the Dem legislation that triggered the Historic Clinton / Dem Boomtime 1990's and Budget Surpluses without a single Repub vote that later Repub SCOTUS-appointed Repub so-called potus GW Bush then flushed down the shitter with his repeatedly proven disastrous, idiotic Repub economic policies and stewardship, was also legislated and passed well before Repub Nude Grinbitch and his Do Nothing But Sniff Around Clinton's Dick and Balls To See Where They've Been Repubs controlled a damn thing in Congress:
Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act
The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, commonly referred to as the 1994 Crime Bill, or the Clinton Crime Bill, is an Act of Congress dealing with crime and law enforcement; it became law in 1994. It is the largest crime bill in the history of the United States and consisted of 356 pages that provided for 100,000 new police officers, $9.7 billion in funding for prisons which were designed with significant input from experienced police officers. Sponsored by U.S. Representative Jack Brooks of Texas, the bill was passed by Congress and signed into law by President Bill Clinton. Then-Senator Joe Biden of Delaware drafted the Senate version of the legislation in cooperation with the National Association of Police Organizations, also incorporating the Assault Weapons ban and the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) with Senator Orrin Hatch.I'll save you the Google Search; Texas Representative Jack Brooks was a Democrat.
And now you also know why the crime rate in New York City declined in that same era coincidentally and for no other Earthly reason under Repub Loony Mayor Rudy Giuliani. LOL.
Retail Group Retracts Startling Claim About Organized Shoplifting.
The National Retail Federation had said that nearly half of the industrys $94.5 billion in missing merchandise in 2021 was the result of organized theft.
It was likely closer to 5 percent, experts say.
Dec. 8, 2023
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/08/business/organized-shoplifting-retail-crime-theft-retraction.html#text=In%20 fact%2 see%20 retail%20 theft%20 has, fallen%207%20 percent%20 since%202019.
That's right. Lower than pre Trump's Pandemic. Lower than under Trump.
Oh, if only there was somebody who has someone paying for his subscription to the NYT for those wonderful reports and articles and can post the entire report here.
Shhh. Don't anybody tell Bill Maher about this. He will have to re-write half of his 2024 Repub Election Campaign Biden / Dem-slamming jokes.And your point is? When Walgreens decided to remove some stores from San Francisco, they didn't care whether the shoplifting was organized or not. They complained theft losses in the stores were 5 X what they were in the rest of their system, and security cost about 50 X more. That and other considerations caused them to close the stores.
And, as usual, utterly lucid, cognitively competent and superior to any Repub's lunacy Joe Biden got it right on the reason Trump's Pandemic Recovery's inevitable transitory Inflation got to where it went and lingered as long as it did:
Biden turns up pressure on corporate price gouging as 2024 nears.
Dec. 1, 2023
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/12/01/biden-price-gouging-inflation/
'Excess profits at big energy and consumer companies pushed up inflation, report claims.
Dec. 8, 2023
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/08/excess-profits-of-big-firms-have-driven-up-inflation-report-claims.html?__source=androidappshare
Shhh. Don't anybody tell Larry Summers about this. He will have to cancel all of his typically pro Repub Mainstream Media 2024 Repub Election Campaign appearances.This is just political posturing on the part of Biden. The public doesn't approve of his handling of the economy, so he wants to put the blame on greedy corporations. Fortunately the adults in the house, like Janet Yellen and Jared Bernstein, won't let him do anything stupid, like impose price controls or excess profits taxes.
Price controls have been imposed since time of the ancient Greeks and they don't work out particularly well, as Richard Nixon, Hugo Chavez and others have discovered. When you place a price ceiling on goods and keep prices artificially low, demand is increased to the point where supply can't keep up, leading to shortages.
What would happen if we had an excess profits tax on energy, as recommended by one of your articles? Well, the price of oil would be over $100 a barrel and gasoline over $4. 00 a gallon. The reason they're not right now is because USA Oil production is at an all time high, 13.2 million barrels a day, counterbalancing attempts of OPEC and Russia to run up prices by cutting supply. And natural gas and electricity prices would be much higher as well. Right now, the only gas producers who are making money are the ones with oil wells. You can't make money drilling gas wells. If you take all the profits from the oil and gas companies when times are good, they won't, or for that matter can't invest in maintaining and growing production.
In the USA, we have one of the most competitive markets in the world for goods and services. Yes prices for some things are higher because of the strength of the dollar. But our per capita purchasing power is second to none, because of competition. As long as we maintain competition by, for example, enforcing the antitrust laws and not caving to crony capitalism, we'll stay in good shape.
Doubters Beware: U.S. Oil Production Is Setting New Records.
Oct. 8, 2023
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2023/10/08/doubters-beware-us-oil-production-is-setting-new-records/?sh=266018696767
US oil output hits record as producers boost drilling efficiency.
Nov. 2, 2023
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-oil-output-hits-record-producers-boost-drilling-efficiency-kemp-2023-11-01/
Oil market caught by surprise as US output surges.
Dec. 7, 2023
https://www.ft.com/content/3a1bbb09-863c-4c51-a8c0-31eac536b938
Now, I realize those reports are all about statistics. But shouldn't someone mention that fact to the numbskulls cheering Numbskull King Trump's big pronouncement that he and only he can see to it that the USA will finally start drilling and producing a few barrels of oil for a change?Thankfully, Biden abandoned his campaign promise to stop drilling on Federal onshore and offshore oil and gas leases, and otherwise kneecap the domestic oil and gas industry, when he realized that would hurt his prospects for re-election.
Obama may have been a self-righteous SOB from time to time, but at least he realized from the get go that domestic oil and gas production was good for America.
Do you think we'd have record production if we'd imposed an excess profits tax on oil as recommended by the Institute For Public Policy Research and Common Wealth? See your CNBC link below.
Looks like you were premature in casting judgement upon poor Christian. Apparently the woman in question had been doing tequila shots all day getting ready for a wild time with the Ziegler's. She asked Christian to cum in her mouth so he wouldn't mess up her shirt.Like I said, stay tuned for more right-wing Repub conservative "family values".
Apparently the video has not been confirmed and doesn't yet absolve the accused rapist, Ziegler. Yet another report, even mentioned, he may be charged for an unlawful and/or unauthorized video recording.
If anything, that video does paints the Florida Republican Party Chairman, Christian Ziegler, as an adulterer, cheater, LGBTQ hypocrite, liar and all-around phony.
Stay Tuned...
• 11 months positive job gains in a row
• better/stronger than expected November 2023 unemployment and job numbers. {ie. 19,000 more job created than expected}
• the lowest in 50 years as the US payrolls rise 199,000; jobless rate drops to 3.7%
• Unemployment rate the lowest since 1969
• 14 million more jobs created since Biden Took office, than the 6 million for the same period for Trump
U.S. payrolls rose 199,000 in November, unemployment rate falls to 3.7%
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/08/jobs-report-november-2023-us-payrolls-rose-199000-in-november-unemployment-rate-falls-to-3point7percent.html
US Jobless-Rate Drop Led by Teenagers and Women Over 20
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2023-12-08/us-employment-report-for-november
What will the anti-Biden propaganda machine do, as they struggle to spin the latest great economic news for President Joe Biden?
And your point is? When Walgreens decided to remove some stores from San Francisco, they didn't care whether the shoplifting was organized or not. They complained theft losses in the stores were 5 X what they were in the rest of their system, and security cost about 50 X more. That and other considerations caused them to close the stores.
This is just political posturing on the part of Biden. The public doesn't approve of his handling of the economy, so he wants to put the blame on greedy corporations. Fortunately the adults in the house, like Janet Yellen and Jared Bernstein, won't let him do anything stupid, like impose price controls or excess profits taxes.
Price controls have been imposed since time of the ancient Greeks and they don't work out particularly well, as Richard Nixon, Hugo Chavez and others have discovered. When you place a price ceiling on goods and keep prices artificially low, demand is increased to the point where supply can't keep up, leading to shortages.
What would happen if we had an excess profits tax on energy, as recommended by one of your articles? Well, the price of oil would be over $100 a barrel and gasoline over $4. 00 a gallon. The reason they're not right now is because USA Oil production is at an all time high, 13.2 million barrels a day, counterbalancing attempts of OPEC and Russia to run up prices by cutting supply. And natural gas and electricity prices would be much higher as well. Right now, the only gas producers who are making money are the ones with oil wells. You can't make money drilling gas wells. If you take all the profits from the oil and gas companies when times are good, they won't, or for that matter can't invest in maintaining and growing production.
In the USA, we have one of the most competitive markets in the world for goods and services. Yes prices for some things are higher because of the strength of the dollar. But our per capita purchasing power is second to none, because of competition. As long as we maintain competition by, for example, enforcing the antitrust laws and not caving to crony capitalism, we'll stay in good shape.Yep. Wallgreens' management got busted on that BS by its own executive, its own data and police data:
Walgreens backpedals on theft concerns.
Jan. 9, 2023
https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2023/01/09/walgreens-backpedals-on-theft
Walgreens may have overblown concerns about retail theft at its stores, an executive said on a recent earnings call.
What's happening: "Maybe we cried too much last year," the pharmacy chain's chief financial officer, James Kehoe, said on last Thursday's call with investors.
Kehoe noted the shrink rate inventory lost due to theft, fraud or damage decreased from over 3% a year ago to about 2.5% in the second half of 2022, Insider reports.
Flashback: In October 2021, Walgreens announced it was closing five San Francisco stores due to "organized retail crime" in the city.
The following month, San Francisco Police Department data showed the five stores set to close had fewer than an average of two reported shoplifting incidents a month since 2018.
Yes, but: Not all crimes are reported to authorities, especially if they are minor.
Why it matters: The Walgreens announcement was a key rallying point for San Franciscans who successfully pushed for the recall of then-District Attorney Chesa Boudin.
The recent statements could also show that Walgreens' closures were more tied to a shifting retail industry and efforts to cut costs, which Bloomberg reported years ago.
Well, I guess this is a logical progression. You believe the party of the President explains the state of the economy. Now you're correlating crime statistics with the party of the President.
The murder and negligent homicide rate and the property crime rate both peaked in 1980, Jimmy Carter's last full year in office. Policing, incarceration, rehabilitation and the like are mostly carried out at the state and local level, so I don't understand why we should blame Carter or Democratic Presidents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Property_Crime_Rates_in_the_United_States.svgNope. It isn't any "magical" factor like merely the Party of the elected officials in office at a given time when a given result occurs. It is about the legislation passed and stewardship performed by the member of that Party and avoiding doing really dangerous and stupid things. As I have pointed out and substantiated over and over and over again. But apparently not often enough. So I will continue to point it out and substantiate it again and again. Not that I want to. But obviously I need to. LOL.
Hey, maybe the growing crime rates all through the Repub Nixon / Ford years and into the Carter years would have declined dramatically and steadily if only Joe Biden had been a more seasoned, mature, knowlegable, experienced and influential Senator in those years as he was by 1994 and was as a VP under Obama and is now as POTUS. Also, Carter had a much more damaging "thief" to tackle and tame in his 4 years in office than was happening with backyard fence latches being broken and other property crimes, namely the climbing Hyper-Inflation he inherited from his Repub predecessors and that he most definitely had solved months and months and months before Reagan took office.
At least those rates were on the decline in Carter's fourth year in office and that decline is what Reagan inherited from him in 1981. They sure didn't go anywhere but sideways through 12 years of Reagan and Bush1. The serious decline began and continued only after Clinton, Biden and the Dem Congress legislated, repeat, legislated, repeat, LEGISLATED a policy and followed that up with proper stewardship of the details that produced that result. Which is commonly referred to as "work" by elected officials. And that is anathema to Repubs, of course.
Seriously, have you all this time really thought it was all about the "magic" of being a Dem that produced those historic positive results and some "witch's curse" in being a Repub that produced their horrific results? LOL. Clearly, my work is not nearly over.
MarquisdeSade1
12-12-23, 23:04
"Nope. It isn't any "magical" factor like merely the Party of the elected officials in office at a given time when a given result occurs. It is about the legislation passed and stewardship performed by the member of that Party and avoiding doing really dangerous and stupid things. As I have pointed out and substantiated over and over and over again. But apparently not often enough. So I will continue to point it out and substantiate it again and again. Not that I want to. But obviously I need to. LOL.
Hey, maybe the growing crime rates all through the Repub Nixon / Ford years and into the Carter years would have declined dramatically and steadily if only Joe Biden had been a more seasoned, mature, knowlegable, experienced and influential Senator in those years as he was by 1994 and was as a VP under Obama and is now as POTUS. Also, Carter had a much more damaging "thief" to tackle and tame in his 4 years in office than was happening with backyard fence latches being broken and other property crimes, namely the climbing Hyper-Inflation he inherited from his Repub predecessors and that he most definitely had solved months and months and months before Reagan took office.
At least those rates were on the decline in Carter's fourth year in office and that decline is what Reagan inherited from him in 1981. They sure didn't go anywhere but sideways through 12 years of Reagan and Bush1. The serious decline began and continued only after Clinton, Biden and the Dem Congress legislated, repeat, egislated repeat, LEGISLATEDa policy and followed that up with proper stewardship of the details that produced that result. Which is commonly referred to as "work" by elected officials. And that is anathema to Repubs, of course.
Seriously, have you all this time really thought it was all about the "magic" of being a Dem that produced those historic positive results and some "witch's curse" in being a Repub that produced their horrific results? LOL. Clearly, my work is not nearly over. ".
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2023/12/12/house-select-committee-u-s-must-revoke-free-trade-with-china-hike-tariffs/
Nope. It isn't any "magical" factor like merely the Party of the elected officials in office at a given time when a given result occurs. It is about the legislation passed and stewardship performed by the member of that Party and avoiding doing really dangerous and stupid things. As I have pointed out and substantiated over and over and over again. But apparently not often enough. So I will continue to point it out and substantiate it again and again. Not that I want to. But obviously I need to. LOL.
Hey, maybe the growing crime rates all through the Repub Nixon / Ford years and into the Carter years would have declined dramatically and steadily if only Joe Biden had been a more seasoned, mature, knowlegable, experienced and influential Senator in those years as he was by 1994 and was as a VP under Obama and is now as POTUS. Also, Carter had a much more damaging "thief" to tackle and tame in his 4 years in office than was happening with backyard fence latches being broken and other property crimes, namely the climbing Hyper-Inflation he inherited from his Repub predecessors and that he most definitely had solved months and months and months before Reagan took office.
At least those rates were on the decline in Carter's fourth year in office and that decline is what Reagan inherited from him in 1981. They sure didn't go anywhere but sideways through 12 years of Reagan and Bush1. The serious decline began and continued only after Clinton, Biden and the Dem Congress legislated, repeat, legislated, repeat, LEGISLATED a policy and followed that up with proper stewardship of the details that produced that result. Which is commonly referred to as "work" by elected officials. And that is anathema to Repubs, of course.
Seriously, have you all this time really thought it was all about the "magic" of being a Dem that produced those historic positive results and some "witch's curse" in being a Repub that produced their horrific results? LOL. Clearly, my work is not nearly over.I hate to break this to you, but God is a Republican. You're a good man EihTooms. And I want you to be prepared when you meet your maker.
I too will continue to pursue the work I was sent into this world to do, that is, converting Democrats to small government, free market liberalism.
You're a really tough nut to crack, and it will be quite a feather in my cap if I can bring you around. It would be like converting Mohammed to be a Methodist. I'll keep trying.
Like I said, stay tuned for more right-wing Repub conservative "family values".
Apparently the video has not been confirmed and doesn't yet absolve the accused rapist, Ziegler. Yet another report, even mentioned, he may be charged for an unlawful and/or unauthorized video recording.
If anything, that video does paints the Florida Republican Party Chairman, Christian Ziegler, as an adulterer, cheater, LGBTQ hypocrite, liar and all-around phony.
Stay Tuned...I don't see how you can call him anti LGBTQ. He was banging an "L" in LGBTQ, for goodness sake.
MarquisdeSade1
12-13-23, 03:01
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/05/do-white-evangelicals-think-trump-is-jesus.html
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/12/poll-17-percent-black-americans-support-donald-trump-up-9-points-2020/
Our Lord and Savior is returning from Exile to save Western Civilization and humanity from the likes of ET and Tiny.
The Messiah is Rising and warming up for a bigger and better 2nd act, buckle up cupcakes!!
MarquisdeSade1
12-13-23, 04:01
"I hate to break this to you, but God is a Republican. You're a good man EihTooms. And I want you to be prepared when you meet your maker.
I too will continue to pursue the work I was sent into this world to do, that is, converting Democrats to small government, free market liberalism.
You're a really tough nut to crack, and it will be quite a feather in my cap if I can bring you around. It would be like converting Mohammed to be a Methodist. I'll keep trying. "
I'm a militant atheist, but if there was a god I'm sure he wouldn't be a democrat, which are a bunch of evil baby killers.
And most republicans that would rather permanently destroy the Globes natural environment and enslave the entire planet for an extra 0. 025% return on investment.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/visualized-ocean-plastic-waste-pollution-by-country/
Are you drunk again? ET a good man? WTF you've obviously never met him LMAO.
But I digress, if there was a GOD I'm sure he would be more akin to Siddhartha or King Trump.
I hate to break this to you, but God is a Republican. You're a good man EihTooms. And I want you to be prepared when you meet your maker.
I too will continue to pursue the work I was sent into this world to do, that is, converting Democrats to small government, free market liberalism.
You're a really tough nut to crack, and it will be quite a feather in my cap if I can bring you around. It would be like converting Mohammed to be a Methodist. I'll keep trying.If God is a Repub we would still be stuck on day one of the 7 Days required to create the world.
This current Repub Pink Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House has won the Silver Medal this year in the Most Do Nothing Congress Olympics. The All Repub Congress of the All Repub Repub Great Depression retains its place on the platform as Gold Medal Winner but only by a nose. And I suspect Repub Cry-Baby Speaker (no) Boner that presided under Obama and whose mission along with Repub Senate Leader Moscow Mitch was to Do Nothing and leave all the heavy lifting and political risk-taking to Obama-Biden and the other Dems to pull us and the rest of the world out of the Historic Repub Economic Crash and Near Great Repub Depression their Repub policies and stewardship created and handed to incoming Obama-Biden to fix must have a slew of Bronze Medals on that particular Olympic event:
The Least Productive Congress Since The Great Depression.
Nov. 15, 2023
https://news.yahoo.com/least-productive-congress-since-great-013501789.html
With only 21 bills making it into law halfway into November, the 118th Congress, controlled by Republicans in the House and Democrats in the Senate, is on the most sluggish pace to make law since the Congress that met during 1931 and 1932.
Back then, Herbert Hoover was president, the Great Depression had started and talking movies were still new.
Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas), part of a group in the House that has stopped several spending bills from advancing to the Senate, saw his frustration boil over on the House floor Wednesday.
"One thing. I want my Republican colleagues to give me one thing one! that I can go campaign on and say we did, he said. Anybody sitting in the complex, if you want to come down to the floor and come explain to me, one meaningful, significant thing the Republican majority has done. Chip, there isn't even one significant or meaningful legislation or result proposed by, fought for and passed by Repubs when they controlled the White House, House and Senate since the inception of the Repub Party. Ever. Unless you count the crap they got done in the mid 1920's that resulted in their Great Repub Crash and Great Repub Depression that hit in 1929. That is the only significant result of an All Repub Control of the Federal Government that can be cited in history. Or, as (no) Boner would sell his Party's persistent Do Nothing Laziness, the "best" kind of work and results a Congress should ever produce. LOL.
I don't see how you can call him anti LGBTQ. He was banging an "L" in LGBTQ, for goodness sake
Florida Republican Party Chairman, Christian Ziegler, my very well be "anti-L in LGBTQ", I called him and his wife, "hypocrites".
And don't be so frickin' naive!
The world (and history) is full of men (and women), that will gladly fuck the "L-G-B-T to the Q", behind closed doors (BCD), and yet openly in public, denounce and declare "war" against said group of people.
Republicans Christian and Bridget Ziegler are a great example of said hypocrisy. That is why I called Christian Ziegler, an adulterer, cheater, LGBTQ hypocrite, liar and all-around phony.
If God is a Repub we would still be stuck on day one of the 7 Days required to create the world.
This current Repub Pink Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House has won the Silver Medal this year in the Most Do Nothing Congress Olympics. The All Repub Congress of the All Repub Repub Great Depression retains its place on the platform as Gold Medal Winner but only by a nose. And I suspect Repub Cry-Baby Speaker (no) Boner that presided under Obama and whose mission along with Repub Senate Leader Moscow Mitch was to Do Nothing and leave all the heavy lifting and political risk-taking to Obama-Biden and the other Dems to pull us and the rest of the world out of the Historic Repub Economic Crash and Near Great Repub Depression their Repub policies and stewardship created and handed to incoming Obama-Biden to fix must have a slew of Bronze Medals on that particular Olympic event:
The Least Productive Congress Since The Great Depression.
Nov. 15, 2023
https://news.yahoo.com/least-productive-congress-since-great-013501789.html
Chip, there isn't even one significant or meaningful legislation or result proposed by, fought for and passed by Repubs when they controlled the White House, House and Senate since the inception of the Repub Party. Ever. Unless you count the crap they got done in the mid 1920's that resulted in their Great Repub Crash and Great Repub Depression that hit in 1929. That is the only significant result of an All Repub Control of the Federal Government that can be cited in history. Or, as (no) Boner would sell his Party's persistent Do Nothing Laziness, the "best" kind of work and results a Congress should ever produce. LOL.I addressed this in a dialogue with Spidy earlier. I'll re-post, at the risk of setting the Marquis off on another anti-Republican rampage. For those who favor a smaller federal government and lower deficits, the current crop of Republicans is doing pretty well:
The Republican House has done a great job in 2023. Remember the negotiations to raise the national debt ceiling back in May. The House Republicans managed to claw back $1.5 trillion over 10 years from the $5 trillion+ in spending legislated by Biden and Democrats in 2021 and 2022. Chip Roy's problem is that he believes they should have clawed back more. Fair enough, but $1.5 trillion is quite an accomplishment considering Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency.
I was watching CNBC last week, and Jared Bernstein, the chairman of President Biden's Council of Economic Advisors was expounding on the accomplishments of the President. Chief among them was saving $1 trillion through passage of the Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2023! This is the money that the Republicans clawed back! In other words, Biden's economic advisor is taking credit for something that got passed only because Republicans threatened not to increase the debt limit. Democrats were shouting Armageddon and now they're taking credit for the legislation! Unbelievable!
Anyway, Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama might have been crappy ass presidents, if Republicans hadn't controlled the House during their second terms, and played a similar role to House Republicans this year. Instead, Clinton will go down in history as a very good president, having balanced the budget, passed welfare reform, promoted free trade, and cut the capital gains tax, all thanks to Republicans. Maybe House Republicans will also help President Biden preserve his legacy, after two years of crappy ass results with one party rule.
Florida Republican Party Chairman, Christian Ziegler, my very well be "anti-L in LGBTQ", I called him and his wife, "hypocrites".
And don't be so frickin' naive!
The world (and history) is full of men (and women), that will gladly fuck the "L-G-B-T to the Q", behind closed doors (BCD), and yet openly in public, denounce and declare "war" against said group of people.
Republicans Christian and Bridget Ziegler are a great example of said hypocrisy. That is why I called Christian Ziegler, an adulterer, cheater, LGBTQ hypocrite, liar and all-around phony. Hey, nobody's perfect.
I addressed this in a dialogue with Spidy earlier. I'll re-post, at the risk of setting the Marquis off on another anti-Republican rampage. For those who favor a smaller federal government and lower deficits, the current crop of Republicans is doing pretty well:And exactly how will adding the Department of Anti-Abortion Arrests, Prosecution and Incarceration make the government smaller and putting millions more unwanted babies on welfare reduce the deficit? Not to mention the likely massive increase in Defence Spending when and if they actually succeed in assisting and facilitating a Putin victory in Ukraine?
Repub policies and stewardship have never led to smaller government and lower deficits. Ever. Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction simply do not produce those kind of results.
LOL. Have you also forgotten it was the iconic Repub lord and savior of this very loony Repub Pink Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House, the 91 count indicted felony former so-called potus they are desperate to put back in the WH who, more than any other human being on the planet, created the very conditions that produced the Trillions upon Trillions in Deficits we have today while you are apparently only counting a piddling Trillon or so of it that they supposedly subtracted from the necessary recovery measures for his horrific economic and national security policies and stewardship? Which, again, they are desperately trying to assist him in repeating for another 4 years?
Lolol.
Lolol.
MarquisdeSade1
12-14-23, 01:31
"Yep. Wallgreens' management got busted on that BS by its own executive, its own data and police data:
Algreens backpedals on theft concerns.
Jan. 9, 2023.
https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2023/01/09/walgreens-backpedals-on-theft".
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/not-a-victimless-crime-retail-industry-leaders-testify-on-rising-organized-retail-theft-and-fraud/
Aside from the easily predictable massive increase in the deficit once today's Repub Pink Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House gets fully on track reinforcing and celebrating their lord and savior Trump's most disastrous economy-crippling "achievements", we must include this as their own remarkable "achievement" in taking money out of the pockets of the American taxpayer and skyrocketing their deficits.
Debt ceiling brinksmanship has clear negative effects on taxpayers.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/debt-ceiling-brinksmanship-has-clear-negative-effects-on-taxpayers/
THE DEBT
The High Cost of Debt Ceiling Brinksmanship.
https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/08/28/High-Cost-Debt-Ceiling-Brinksmanship
Debt ceiling showdown "was incredibly costly" to U.S., economic expert says.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/debt-ceiling-showdown-house-republicans-president-biden/
LOL. It is hilarious that anyone could point to one utterly irrelevant benefit for no one by their reducing the investment of provable recovery measures and therefore delaying the recovery from Trump's Repub Economic Disaster as a "savings" while they are also rabid proponents and practitioners of favorite Repub Party moves that genuinely cost America and American taxpayers more money, produce higher deficits and, oh as an added bonus for Repubs, provides at least a Trillion Dollars in free publicity and positive press for every anti-democratic authoritarian dictator and wannabe authoritarian dictator on the planet. Every time they do it. As this current Repub Loon House has done.
Shades of the usual Repub Party scam of dangling disproportionately greater tax cuts for top income margins and corporations but with the price of that ticket being another Great Repub Depression / Great Repub Recession and Massive Job Destruction, of course. It is such a blatant, woefully obvious misdirection con. But they get away with doing it as long as their benefactors in Mainstream Media continue to insinuate that their beloved Repub candidates probably "handle the economy better than Democrats."
"Yep. Wallgreens' management got busted on that BS by its own executive, its own data and police data:
Algreens backpedals on theft concerns.
Jan. 9, 2023.
https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2023/01/09/walgreens-backpedals-on-theft".
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/not-a-victimless-crime-retail-industry-leaders-testify-on-rising-organized-retail-theft-and-fraud/Not only was the rate of violent crime as described by in your retail managers' anecdotes less in 2022 under Biden than in all but one year under Trump:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
But there is also plenty of data to suggest many retail managers are blaming convenient "boogymen" for shrinkage and retail losses incurred due to their own mismanagement, poor marketing and incompetence in the face of competition heightened by, yep say it with me, Trump's Pandemic. Lolol.
Stores say shoplifting is a national crisis. The numbers dont back it up.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/18/business/retail-shoplifting-shrink-walgreens/index.html
...
But the retail industrys own figures on shrink cast doubt on their claim that the problem is ballooning. Researchers say retailers may be blaming theft for losses when they dont actually know the cause.
..
But, in fact, the average shrink rate as a percentage of sales dropped to 1.4% in 2021 from 1.6% in 2020, according to the latest NRF survey. That number has hovered around 1.4% for more than a decade.
Whatever the numbers say, though, retailers maintain that organized retail crime has gotten worse.
...
Companies and law enforcement experts say the growth of online shopping has allowed criminals to quickly find ways resell stolen merchandise on online marketplaces like Amazon. Retailers have pushed legislation during the pandemic that would crack down on websites reselling stolen goods.
Organized retail crime is just one component of retailers inventory losses. Its not the largest and is a lower percentage of overall shrink than it was five years ago, according to the NRF surveys.
...
Many brick-and-mortar chains are under pressure from Amazon and other competitors. They have struggled with higher costs for labor, transportation, and other expenses during the pandemic, as well as supply chain challenges.
They have more control over shrink than some of these other forces, retail researchers say.
In an environment where youre looking for any improvement, shrink becomes an area to attack because of all the other costs rising, said Ray Wimer, a professor of retail practice at Syracuse University.
It's also easier for companies and the public to blame theft for store closures and retail struggles than admit stores over-expansion, strategy mistakes and customers abandoning stores for online shopping, said Jonathan Simon, a criminal justice professor at UC Berkeley School of Law.
Its much more convenient if we can blame it on people we already consider reprehensible, he said.
In a major shift, Walgreens, which said it saw a spike in shrink during the pandemic and cited organized retail crime in its decision to close five San Francisco stores in 2021, is backtracking.
(See link for more)
MarquisdeSade1
12-14-23, 16:42
"Not only was the rate of violent crime as described by in your retail managers' anecdotes less in 2022 under Biden than in all but one year under Trump:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990
But there is also plenty of data to suggest many retail managers are blaming convenient "boogymen" for shrinkage and retail losses incurred due to their own mismanagement, poor marketing and incompetence in the face of competition heightened by, yep say it with me, Trump's Pandemic. Lolol.
Stores say shoplifting is a national crisis. The numbers don't back it up.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/18/business/retail-shoplifting-shrink-walgreens/index.html".
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/miami-police-bust-organized-theft-ring-operated-from-allapattah-home/3183846/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deUj1GXRVrg
https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/renton-police-department-stolen-items-fred-meyer-home-depot-target-walmart-shoplifters-multi-million-dollar-retail-theft-operation-special-enforcement-team-ebay-e-commerce-merchandise-06-22-2023
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/suspects-arrested-for-selling-nearly-200000-worth-of-stolen-items-in-l-a/
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/300k-in-stolen-retail-property-recovered-by-l-a-police/
And some more mismanagement from this $20 million dollar ring!!
I can provide 100's of more links 24/7.
MarquisdeSade1
12-14-23, 17:04
"Florida Republican Party Chairman, Christian Ziegler, my very well be "anti-L in LGBTQ", I called him and his wife.
And don't be so frickin' naive!
The world (and history) is full of men (and women), that will gladly fuck the "L-G-be-T to the Q", behind closed doors (BCD), and yet openly in public, denounce and declare "war" against said group of people.
Republicans Christian and Bridget Ziegler are a great example of said hypocrisy. That is why I called Christian Ziegler, an adulterer, cheater, LGBTQ hypocrite, liar and all-around phony. ".
https://www.newindian.in/obama-had-bought-crack-cocaine-and-smoked-it-in-a-limousine-he-said/
https://www.newindian.in/obama-had-bought-crack-cocaine-and-smoked-it-in-a-limousine-he-said/
https://www.newindian.in/obama-had-bought-crack-cocaine-and-smoked-it-in-a-limousine-he-said/
And exactly how will adding the Department of Anti-Abortion Arrests, Prosecution and Incarceration make the government smaller and putting millions more unwanted babies on welfare reduce the deficit? Not to mention the likely massive increase in Defence Spending when and if they actually succeed in assisting and facilitating a Putin victory in Ukraine?
Repub policies and stewardship have never led to smaller government and lower deficits. Ever. Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction simply do not produce those kind of results.
LOL. Have you also forgotten it was the iconic Repub lord and savior of this very loony Repub Pink Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House, the 91 count indicted felony former so-called potus they are desperate to put back in the WH who, more than any other human being on the planet, created the very conditions that produced the Trillions upon Trillions in Deficits we have today while you are apparently only counting a piddling Trillon or so of it that they supposedly subtracted from the necessary recovery measures for his horrific economic and national security policies and stewardship? Which, again, they are desperately trying to assist him in repeating for another 4 years?
Lolol.
Lolol.
Aside from the easily predictable massive increase in the deficit once today's Repub Pink Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House gets fully on track reinforcing and celebrating their lord and savior Trump's most disastrous economy-crippling "achievements", we must include this as their own remarkable "achievement" in taking money out of the pockets of the American taxpayer and skyrocketing their deficits.
Debt ceiling brinksmanship has clear negative effects on taxpayers.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/debt-ceiling-brinksmanship-has-clear-negative-effects-on-taxpayers/
THE DEBT
The High Cost of Debt Ceiling Brinksmanship.
https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/08/28/High-Cost-Debt-Ceiling-Brinksmanship
Debt ceiling showdown "was incredibly costly" to U.S., economic expert says.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/debt-ceiling-showdown-house-republicans-president-biden/
LOL. It is hilarious that anyone could point to one utterly irrelevant benefit for no one by their reducing the investment of provable recovery measures and therefore delaying the recovery from Trump's Repub Economic Disaster as a "savings" while they are also rabid proponents and practitioners of favorite Repub Party moves that genuinely cost America and American taxpayers more money, produce higher deficits and, oh as an added bonus for Repubs, provides at least a Trillion Dollars in free publicity and positive press for every anti-democratic authoritarian dictator and wannabe authoritarian dictator on the planet. Every time they do it. As this current Repub Loon House has done.
Shades of the usual Repub Party scam of dangling disproportionately greater tax cuts for top income margins and corporations but with the price of that ticket being another Great Repub Depression / Great Repub Recession and Massive Job Destruction, of course. It is such a blatant, woefully obvious misdirection con. But they get away with doing it as long as their benefactors in Mainstream Media continue to insinuate that their beloved Repub candidates probably "handle the economy better than Democrats."The Republicans weren't exactly the greatest stewards during the years they controlled the controlled the Presidency, Senate and House, being the first two years of the Trump Administration and the George W. Bush administration. They spent too much money.
However, as I posted, the current House Republicans, and Republicans during Clinton's 2nd term, resulted in greatly improved policy outcomes versus what we would have had with Democratic-controlled Congresses. The Republicans moderated the Democrats' propensity to spend, spend, spend.
Historically the best combination for controlling deficits has been a Democratic president and a Republican House, and I don't believe that's entirely coincidental.
You appear to be confused about the effect of government spending and tax cuts on the economy. Increased spending serves as a stimulus. Tax cuts serve as a stimulus, regardless of whether they occur during a Democratic or Republican presidency, to the extent that they actually result in lower government revenues. Now the changes in the taxation of corporations in 2018 (Trump Administration) and high income individuals in 1986 (Reagan Administration) actually, in the medium and long term, resulted in higher government revenues from said corporations and individuals, even though the changes included cuts in tax rates. I suspect the same is true of the cut in the capital gains tax rate during the Clinton administration, but I haven't seen data to back that up.
Increases in spending and lower government revenues both serve to increase the national debt. The debt may not be a major concern during your remaining lifespan, but it's going to be a huge challenge for our children and grandchildren to deal with. Probably the biggest challenge for government.
Your first link, from the Brookings Institution, is kind of ridiculous. Most government debt is fixed rate. The government is only going to have to pay higher interest rates for 4 week and 8 week Treasury bills sold a month or two before running up against the debt ceiling. That's going to be a drop in the bucket in terms of additional interest expense incurred by the government.
The second link doesn't make a lot of sense either, in the context of the 2023 debt ceiling debate. They say that the debt ceiling brinksmanship of 2011-2012 cost the Treasury at least $1. 3 billion. Well, Mccarthy and Republicans managed to claw back about $1. 5 trillion over 10 years this last May, which is over 1000 X more than $1. 3 billion, not taking inflation into account. I do see the point in the second and third links though in that the bastards in Washington, on both sides, ought to be able to get their act together and agree on fiscal measures long before we run up against the debt ceiling. And better yet, when times are good, like in 2022 and 2023, this shouldn't even be an issue because we should be running a small deficit or a surplus. Unfortunately most Democrats and the majority of Republicans don't want to do that. They just want to spend and grow the federal government, with no concern about what happens to the country after they leave office.
MarquisdeSade1
12-15-23, 00:19
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/14/nolte-trump-surges-to-ten-point-lead-over-biden/
Another Reagan vs Mondale??
They can't cheat enough to cover the differential this time.
The Republicans weren't exactly the greatest stewards during the years they controlled the controlled the Presidency, Senate and House, being the first two years of the Trump Administration and the George W. Bush administration. They spent too much money.
However, as I posted, the current House Republicans, and Republicans during Clinton's 2nd term, resulted in greatly improved policy outcomes versus what we would have had with Democratic-controlled Congresses. The Republicans moderated the Democrats' propensity to spend, spend, spend.
Historically the best combination for controlling deficits has been a Democratic president and a Republican House, and I don't believe that's entirely coincidental.
You appear to be confused about the effect of government spending and tax cuts on the economy. Increased spending serves as a stimulus. Tax cuts serve as a stimulus, regardless of whether they occur during a Democratic or Republican presidency, to the extent that they actually result in lower government revenues. Now the changes in the taxation of corporations in 2018 (Trump Administration) and high income individuals in 1986 (Reagan Administration) actually, in the medium and long term, resulted in higher government revenues from said corporations and individuals, even though the changes included cuts in tax rates. I suspect the same is true of the cut in the capital gains tax rate during the Clinton administration, but I haven't seen data to back that up.
Increases in spending and lower government revenues both serve to increase the national debt. The debt may not be a major concern during your remaining lifespan, but it's going to be a huge challenge for our children and grandchildren to deal with. Probably the biggest challenge for government.
Your first link, from the Brookings Institution, is kind of ridiculous. Most government debt is fixed rate. The government is only going to have to pay higher interest rates for 4 week and 8 week Treasury bills sold a month or two before running up against the debt ceiling. That's going to be a drop in the bucket in terms of additional interest expense incurred by the government.
The second link doesn't make a lot of sense either, in the context of the 2023 debt ceiling debate. They say that the debt ceiling brinksmanship of 2011-2012 cost the Treasury at least $1. 3 billion. Well, Mccarthy and Republicans managed to claw back about $1. 5 trillion over 10 years this last May, which is over 1000 X more than $1. 3 billion, not taking inflation into account. I do see the point in the second and third links though in that the bastards in Washington, on both sides, ought to be able to get their act together and agree on fiscal measures long before we run up against the debt ceiling. And better yet, when times are good, like in 2022 and 2023, this shouldn't even be an issue because we should be running a small deficit or a surplus. Unfortunately most Democrats and the majority of Republicans don't want to do that. They just want to spend and grow the federal government, with no concern about what happens to the country after they leave office.I am not confused about anything regarding taxation and how tax cuts and tax policy can and does stimulate the economy and create jobs if they are done in the right places for the right reasons. Dems know how to do that and Repubs do not. Obviously. There is not one iota or shred of evidence or data or statistics to substantiate any other conclusion. Unless you are confused about the difference between a Great Repub Depression / Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction vs a Great Dem Recovery, Expansion and Historic Jobs Creation.
The only reason the Clinton / Dem economy of the 1990's was among the greatest of all time even after Nude Grinbitch and his Repubs controlled Congress beginning in January 1995 was because all of the most important legislation necessary to produce that result was done and done by December 1994. By Clinton and his Dems (note the word "legislation" as in agenda and policy, not merely because they were members of the Democratic Party). Largely without any contribution from Repubs at all. Because the agenda was so opposite what Reagan taught them was the best way to set tax and spend policy that will trigger a Great Repub Recession, skyrocket the Unemployment Rate into double digits for almost a year and even by the end of 8 or 12 years of that Repub potus agenda produce pathetic jobs numbers.
Grinbitch lost every showdown with Clinton. Grinbitch and his Repubs simply spent the balance of the 1990's sniffing around Clinton's dick and balls to find out where they'd been. And later took credit for Dem legislation, policy and stewardship results they contributed virtually nothing to except perhaps to slow it down and diminish the Greatness of it a tad. Give them a trophy for that.
The same dynamic occurred under the historic Great Dem Recovery and Expansions of FDR and Obama; the Dems made that happen with little or no contribution from Deadbeat Repubs. At most, a few of them went along with the FDR and Obama agendas. But they were not decisive. Thank God.
So Dems shoulder all the heavy lifting, assume all the political risk, led by a Dem POTUS, and then Repubs come in later during the birthing pains of aforementioned heavy lifting and political risk-taking stage of the Great Dem Recovery, Expansion and Jobs Creation, team up with their beloved benefactors in Mainstream Media to capitalize on those typical early birthing pains in order to win elections and the next thing we have is a few years of Deadbeat Do Nothing Repubs sitting around doing their typical Deadbeat Do Nothingness and, TO YOU (and, yes, it will find its way into the lazy financial media), that looks like we get the best results with a Dem POTUS and a Repub-Controlled Congress. Or, rather, Repub-Controlled House. But only on the basis of spending apparently. A "process" that has very little if anything to do with an economic "result" anyway.
LOL. OK.
I wonder why. LOL. Well, no, not really.
Biden-Trump rematch would be close, with RFK Jr a threat to Biden: Reuters/Ipsos poll.
Dec. 13, 2023
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-vs-trump-would-be-close-rematch-with-rfk-jr-threat-biden-reutersipsos-poll-2023-12-12/
The poll showed Trump with a marginal 2-point lead in a head-to-head matchup, 38% to 36%, with 26% of respondents saying they weren't sure or might vote for someone else.
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The poll, conducted online Dec. 5-11, surveyed 4,411 U.S. adults nationwide and had a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of about 2 percentage points.
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The state-by-state Electoral College system used to pick presidents, and deep-seated partisan divides, mean that voters in just a handful of states will play a decisive role in the election's outcome.
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In the seven states where the election was closest in 2020 -- Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, North Carolina and Michigan -- Biden had a 4-point lead among Americans who said they were sure to vote.Man, I had to go deep into that report to find that last part. LOL.
After several days I have yet to see this report factored into the demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP site very much. But they jumped on that ultra Winger-leaning Rasmussen poll within minutes! Lolol.
The Republican House has done a great job in 2023. Remember the negotiations to raise the national debt ceiling back in May. The House Republicans managed to claw back $1.5 trillion over 10 years from the $5 trillion+ in spending legislated by Biden and Democrats in 2021 and 2022. Chip Roy's problem is that he believes they should have clawed back more. Fair enough, but $1.5 trillion is quite an accomplishment considering Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency. Yeah, I was meaning to circle back to this, glad you did.
Well, if this "one (1) thing" is really, so great as you claim, I'm sure Rep.Chip Roy (R-TX), will have no problem, mounting a absolute stellar campaign on this issue. An issue, that is just so vital, front and center most Americans. This should be interesting, Chip explaining to his constituency, considering that 14 million jobs were created, on a reduced IRA.
I was watching CNBC last week, and Jared Bernstein, the chairman of President Biden's Council of Economic Advisors was expounding on the accomplishments of the President. Chief among them was saving $1 trillion through passage of the Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2023! This is the money that the Republicans clawed back! In other words, Biden's economic advisor is taking credit for something that got passed only because Republicans threatened not to increase the debt limit. Democrats were shouting Armageddon and now they're taking credit for the legislation! Unbelievable!
What you failed to include and left out, from the the Jared Bernstein, interview, was him presenting the whole picture, that Biden's budget, has $2.5 trillions dollars of debt reduction measures in it, to combat the deficit and that Biden has been actively and aggressively tackling the debt.
Simply put, when asked, Jared Bernstein, mentioned the one (1) trillions dollars off the 10 yr deficit, noted in Fiscal Responsibility Act, as part of the question to the debt and inflation reduction. I hardly see that, as taking credit.
But if he were asked, I'm sure he'd remind the interviewer, the many Repubs, who shouted from the mountain tops, the tremendous benefits and economic success, their very own states are now enjoying, from IRA infrastructure/Chip and Science Acts, and the 14 million jobs created, that they themselves voted against. Yeah, frickin' unbelievable!
Personally, When I think about the "claw back" of the one (1) trillion dollars, it reminds me of, just how much greater the Biden economy could have been. Maybe 20 million jobs!!!
Hey, nobody's perfect.Hmmmm...Okay! Anyways, certainly not Republicans Christian & Bridget Ziegler, Florida RNC or Moms for Liberty (or are we now calling it MILFs for Liberty...kkkk!
all of that was as bad or worse under Trump than under Biden.
"Not only was the rate of violent crime as described by in your retail managers' anecdotes less in 2022 under Biden than in all but one year under Trump:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990
But there is also plenty of data to suggest many retail managers are blaming convenient "boogymen" for shrinkage and retail losses incurred due to their own mismanagement, poor marketing and incompetence in the face of competition heightened by, yep say it with me, Trump's Pandemic. Lolol.
Stores say shoplifting is a national crisis. The numbers don't back it up.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/18/business/retail-shoplifting-shrink-walgreens/index.html".
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/miami-police-bust-organized-theft-ring-operated-from-allapattah-home/3183846/.Uh. You do know crimes occurred all around the world even before the creation of 24/7/365 Cable News Channels, 24/7/365 Internet Access and everyone keeping a locked and loaded smartphone camera at the ready in their hand, right?
What you failed to include and left out, from the the Jared Bernstein, interview, was him presenting the whole picture, that Biden's budget, has $2.5 trillions dollars of debt reduction measures in it, to combat the deficit and that Biden has been actively and aggressively tackling the debt.
I never heard him say that in the CNBC interview, but if true, $1.5 trillion of the $2.5 trillion would be the Republican claw backs, which were obtained only after considerable kicking and screaming by Democratic Party politicians during the debt ceiling debate..
But if he were asked, I'm sure he'd remind the interviewer, the many Repubs, who shouted from the mountain tops, the tremendous benefits and economic success, their very own states are now enjoying, from IRA infrastructure/Chip and Science Acts, and the 14 million jobs created, that they themselves voted against. Yeah, frickin' unbelievable! Yeah, a lot of Republicans are spendthrifts too, only too willing to spend federal money in their districts that is better appropriated and spent by the state and local governments in their districts. And there's no way the IRA, infrastructure and Chip and Science Acts created or will create 14 million jobs. That would imply a negative unemployment rate, unless the labor force participation rate increases markedly. And it hasn't. It's still below pre-COVID levels.
Personally, When I think about the "claw back" of the one (1) trillion dollars, it reminds me of, just how much greater the Biden economy could have been. Maybe 20 million jobs!!!Twenty million jobs? No way, unless he started providing free travel and instant citizenship to anyone willing to move to the USA. And encouraged the kind of sweat shops that the Marquis prefers to have on American soil instead of in foreign countries. But Biden definitely could have added at least a few trillion more to the national debt, and a couple more points to inflation in 2021, if not for the heroic efforts of Kyrsten Sinema, Joe Manchin, and, in 2023, Kevin McCarthy and House Republicans.
Hmmmm...Okay! Anyways, certainly not Republicans Christian & Bridget Ziegler, Florida RNC or Moms for Liberty (or are we now calling it MILFs for Liberty...kkkk!
Bridget may not be perfect, but I'd do her.
Yeah, I was meaning to circle back to this, glad you did.
Well, if this "one (1) thing" is really, so great as you claim, I'm sure Rep.Chip Roy (R-TX), will have no problem, mounting a absolute stellar campaign on this issue. An issue, that is just so vital, front and center most Americans. This should be interesting, Chip explaining to his constituency, considering that 14 million jobs were created, on a reduced IRA.
What you failed to include and left out, from the the Jared Bernstein, interview, was him presenting the whole picture, that Biden's budget, has $2.5 trillions dollars of debt reduction measures in it, to combat the deficit and that Biden has been actively and aggressively tackling the debt.
Simply put, when asked, Jared Bernstein, mentioned the one (1) trillions dollars off the 10 yr deficit, noted in Fiscal Responsibility Act, as part of the question to the debt and inflation reduction. I hardly see that, as taking credit.
But if he were asked, I'm sure he'd remind the interviewer, the many Repubs, who shouted from the mountain tops, the tremendous benefits and economic success, their very own states are now enjoying, from IRA infrastructure/Chip and Science Acts, and the 14 million jobs created, that they themselves voted against. Yeah, frickin' unbelievable!
Personally, When I think about the "claw back" of the one (1) trillion dollars, it reminds me of, just how much greater the Biden economy could have been. Maybe 20 million jobs!!!That is exactly the correct way of assessing it.
Okay, show of hands.
Who here thinks the reason Nude Grinbitch, John (no) Boner, Kevin McQarthy, ChristoFacist Mike, etc and their congressional Repubs suddenly became the Party of NO / Obstruction / Slow-Walking on Recovery Legislation, clawed back Dem spending proposals, repeatedly engaged in brinksmanship on paying our bills and enacting government shutdowns, etc was because they cared about the welfare of the American people, wanted things to get better for everyone ASAP and sincerely wanted the Dem in the White House to look much better with a thriving economy and balanced budget when either he or his VP runs for election in a year or two?
LOL. I had to refrain from cracking myself up with laughter even as I wrote that little survey question. My god. How gullible would a sucker have to be to entertain such a ridiculous idea even in passing.
No. They did that because they were / are hoping to Thwart or, preferably, Reverse the economic gains, growth, jobs creation AND projected economic expansion revenue to balance the budget along the way that they know better than anyone else WILL occur due to typical Democratic Party Tax / Spend Policies and Stewardship even as such results have NEVER happened due to Republican Party Tax / Spend Policies and Stewardship. Not when you factor in the inevitable Great Repub Depression / Recession and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction that comes in the exact same Repub package.
It is irrefutable that any and every, statement, move, proposal and decision made by Repubs while a Dem is in the White House is not meant to improve anything. Anything. Not to improve business confidence, not to increase jobs creation, not to promote GDP growth, not to reduce unavoidable recovery inflation, not to make the border more secure, not to strengthen national security, not to reduce crime or killings, not to help balance the budget.
Nothing.
It is always and only meant to reduce the expected (especially by congressional Repubs, who know better than anyone) positive results of that Dem POTUS' economic philosophy, agenda, proposals, legislation, policies and stewardship. And, preferably, to totally reverse those results before the next election.
Uh, yeah. I did not and will never be gullible and stupid enough to raise my hand on that one.
Yeah, a lot of Republicans are spendthrifts too, only too willing to spend federal money in their districts that is better appropriated and spent by the state and local governments in their districts. And there's no way the IRA, infrastructure and Chip and Science Acts created or will create 14 million jobs. That would imply a negative unemployment rate, unless the labor force participation rate increases markedly. And it hasn't. It's still below pre-COVID levels.
If by "spendthrifts", you mean Repubs stupidly, giving away money to billionaires, to produce another ineffectual "trickle-down" style economy, in the hopes that some crumbs will make it to working Americans, then you'd be correct about Republicans spendthrifts.
Point is, on Biden's watch (since he took office), 14 million jobs were created. IRA, infrastructure and Chip and Science Acts are naturally a big part of that jobs picture.
Twenty million jobs? No way. But he definitely could have added at least a few trillion more to the national debt, and a couple more points to inflation in 2021, if not for the heroic efforts of Kyrsten Sinema, Joe Manchin, and, in 2023, Kevin McCarthy and House Republicans. (...kkkk!) I know your not used to seeing good economics, especially after 4-years of Trump's ineptitude and bad stewardship from Repubs (or any stewardship for that matter), which is probably the reason you're full of doubts and is totally understandable, just as Rep.Chip Roy (R-TX), frustratingly, can't find "one thing...one good thing" Repubs have done.
But the 20 million jobs, YOU CAN BOOK IT! Biden created 14 million, with only 1.5 trillion. Project that out to 2.5 trillion, and the 6 million more jobs, is totally doable.
As for your so called "heroes", the "no nothing" DINOs, and the ousted, disgraced former speaker and the Repub "pink trickle" House, all of which are either gone, soon to be gone, or will be shortly reduced to "pink drips", isn't saying very much, when it comes producing meaningful and substantive governance, economics and jobs for Americans.
All this GREAT economic data, DESPITE, your "so called heroes", trying their utmost to thwart Biden's economic measures.
• 11 months positive job gains in a row
• better/stronger than expected November 2023 unemployment and job numbers. {ie. 19,000 more job created than expected}
• the lowest in 50 years as the US payrolls rise 199,000; jobless rate drops to 3.7%
• Unemployment rate the lowest since 1969
• US Inflation, hovering around 3%, is the lowest in 2-years
• 14 million more jobs created since Biden Took office, than the 6 million for the same period for Trump
Yeah, 20 million jobs, in a Biden run economy...just BOOK it!
That is exactly the correct way of assessing it.
Okay, show of hands.
Who here thinks the reason Nude Grinbitch, John (no) Boner, Kevin McQarthy, ChristoFacist Mike, etc and their congressional Repubs suddenly became the Party of NO / Obstruction / Slow-Walking on Recovery Legislation, clawed back Dem spending proposals, repeatedly engaged in brinksmanship on paying our bills and enacting government shutdowns, etc was because they cared about the welfare of the American people, wanted things to get better for everyone ASAP and sincerely wanted the Dem in the White House to look much better with a thriving economy and balanced budget when either he or his VP runs for election in a year or two?
LOL. I had to refrain from cracking myself up with laughter even as I wrote that little survey question. My god. How gullible would a sucker have to be to entertain such a ridiculous idea even in passing.
No. They did that because they were / are hoping to Thwart or, preferably, Reverse the economic gains, growth, jobs creation AND projected economic expansion revenue to balance the budget along the way that they know better than anyone else WILL occur due to typical Democratic Party Tax / Spend Policies and Stewardship even as such results have NEVER happened due to Republican Party Tax / Spend Policies and Stewardship. Not when you factor in the inevitable Great Repub Depression / Recession and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction that comes in the exact same Repub package. Yes, I had a good chuckle myself!
It is irrefutable that any and every, statement, move, proposal and decision made by Repubs while a Dem is in the White House is not meant to improve anything. Anything. Not to improve business confidence, not to increase jobs creation, not to promote GDP growth, not to reduce unavoidable recovery inflation, not to make the border more secure, not to strengthen national security, not to reduce crime or killings, not to help balance the budget.
Nothing. Good post and spot on! Like echos of Rep.Chip Roy (R-TX) hard hitting speech, it has become a resonating reality, that many Repubs, just can't shake.
It is always and only meant to reduce the expected (especially by congressional Repubs, who know better than anyone) positive results of that Dem POTUS' economic philosophy, agenda, proposals, legislation, policies and stewardship. And, preferably, to totally reverse those results before the next election.
Uh, yeah. I did not and will never be gullible and stupid enough to raise my hand on that one.
I'm sure a few gullible Repub hands, shot up! Which would stand to reason, as Trump does like his voters, uneducated with healthy dose of gullibility. (....kkkk!)
However, it bears repeating, that with all of the DINOs/MAGA Repub "thwarting" measures you've superbly outline above, it just amazing how Biden, has managed an economy this good, this impressive, and this resilient, despite the obstructionists and naysayers.
Bridget may not be perfect, but I'd do her. Hmmmm....Question is, would she do YOU? (...kkkk!)
Meaning, she may have "turned the corner" and is now, ONLY banging "LGBTQ pussy"? And doesn't want Christian Ziegler, "limp dick" anymore? Ergo, him desperately needing to "get jiggy" elsewhere. I gotta say, it just raises a whole lot of unanswered questions.
Hey, on the flip side, 'tis good to see a Republican, embrace wanting to bang "LGBTQ pussy", even if it is a hypocrite like, Bridget Zielger...again, no judgement here!
I'm just worried, that with you exhibiting such "liberal values", you may have to turn-in your Repub conservative membership card...kkkK!
If by "spendthrifts", you mean Repubs stupidly, giving away money to billionaires, to produce another ineffectual "trickle-down" style economy, in the hopes that some crumbs will make it to working Americans, then you'd be correct about Republicans spendthrifts.
Point is, on Biden's watch (since he took office), 14 million jobs were created. IRA, infrastructure and Chip and Science Acts are naturally a big part of that jobs picture.
(...kkkk!) I know your not used to seeing good economics, especially after 4-years of Trump's ineptitude and bad stewardship from Repubs (or any stewardship for that matter), which is probably the reason you're full of doubts and is totally understandable, just as Rep.Chip Roy (R-TX), frustratingly, can't find "one thing...one good thing" Repubs have done.
But the 20 million jobs, YOU CAN BOOK IT! Biden created 14 million, with only 1.5 trillion. Project that out to 2.5 trillion, and the 6 million more jobs, is totally doable.
As for your so called "heroes", the "no nothing" DINOs, and the ousted, disgraced former speaker and the Repub "pink trickle" House, all of which are either gone, soon to be gone, or will be shortly reduced to "pink drips", isn't saying very much, when it comes producing meaningful and substantive governance, economics and jobs for Americans.
All this GREAT economic data, DESPITE, your "so called heroes", trying their utmost to thwart Biden's economic measures.
11 months positive job gains in a row
better/stronger than expected November 2023 unemployment and job numbers. {ie. 19,000 more job created than expected}
the lowest in 50 years as the US payrolls rise 199,000; jobless rate drops to 3.7%
Unemployment rate the lowest since 1969
US Inflation, hovering around 3%, is the lowest in 2-years
14 million more jobs created since Biden Took office, than the 6 million for the same period for Trump
Yeah, 20 million jobs, in a Biden run economy...just BOOK it!Sorry. OK, I get it now. You attended the EihTooms School of Economics. You're giving Biden credit for every job added in the USA from the day Biden took office, after the end of a pandemic-induced recession that represented the worst downturn since the Great Depression.
The total number of non-farm jobs in February, 2020 when COVID struck was 152,371,000, and there are 157,087,000 now. That's during a period when the working aged population increased from 205,608,000 to 209,039,000.
The EihTooms School believes that GDP growth and employment growth are only correlated to the party of the president, and all data must be interpreted to the benefit of Democratic presidents. Trump deserves all the blame for job losses during a worldwide pandemic, and Ronald Reagan deserves all the blame for a recession that started during the Carter Administration. Barrack Obama and Joe Biden deserve sole credit for all gains in GDP and jobs coming out of recessions. Any any GDP growth or increase in jobs during the Reagan and Trump administration (pre-COVID) were just because of conditions created by President Carter and President Obama respectfully.
I'm more a Chicago School adherent myself.
DINO's, LOL.
I'm just worried, that with you exhibiting such "liberal values", you may have to turn-in your Repub conservative membership card...kkkK!Well, you pegged me wrong, I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. That's why the Marquis believes I'm one of Satan's children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism
Amazing, isn't it? But but but we saw crimes being committed for the first time ever since January 20,2021. On YouTube!
Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz says more stores to close for security reasons.
July 19, 2022
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/starbucks/starbucks-ceo-howard-schultz-says-more-stores-to-close-for-security-reasons/
In a video posted on Twitter, Schultz said Starbucks is closing stores that are not unprofitable due to an uptick in safety-related problems including crime, homelessness and drug use in bathrooms. The company earlier announced plans to close 16 locations because of security issues.
This is just the beginning, and there are going to be many more, Schultz said. It has shocked me that one of the primary concerns that our retail partners have is their own personal safety.
Starbucks has previously said it will close locations in Portland, Oregon; Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Seattle and Washington, D.C. Damn you, Joe Biden and the Dems!
Oh, wait:
Starbucks accused by NLRB of union busting for closing 23 stores.
Dec. 14, 2023
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/starbucks-accused-nrlb-union-busting-closing-23-stores
The National Labor Relations Board is looking to force Starbucks to reopen 23 stores the coffee giant closed last year, accusing the company of shuttering the union and non-union shops as part of a union-busting effort.Ah okay. Nevermind.
Lolol.
Sorry. OK, I get it now. You attended the EihTooms School of Economics. You're giving Biden credit for every job added in the USA from the day Biden took office, after the end of a pandemic-induced recession that represented the worst downturn since the Great Depression.
The total number of non-farm jobs in February, 2020 when COVID struck was 152,371,000, and there are 157,087,000 now. That's during a period when the working aged population increased from 205,608,000 to 209,039,000.
The EihTooms School believes that GDP growth and employment growth are only correlated to the party of the president, and all data must be interpreted to the benefit of Democratic presidents. Trump deserves all the blame for job losses during a worldwide pandemic, and Ronald Reagan deserves all the blame for a recession that started during the Carter Administration. Barrack Obama and Joe Biden deserve sole credit for all gains in GDP and jobs coming out of recessions. Any any GDP growth or increase in jobs during the Reagan and Trump administration (pre-COVID) were just because of conditions created by President Carter and President Obama respectfully.
I'm more a Chicago School adherent myself.
DINO's, LOL.Uh. First of all, Trump's Pandemic was an economic policy and stewardship choice made by Donald Trump in 2018,2019 and all through 2020. It did not just "happen" to the poor idiot out of nowhere. He was fully warned against making those dangerous and stupid decisions but made them anyway.
Second, the millions upon millions of jobs Trump wiped out when his efforts finally produced Trump's Pandemic were truly wiped out and lost. They were not put "on hiatus" with pay, go take a vacation for a few weeks.
The same as when The Great Repub Depression "struck", the Great Repub Reagan Whopping Ten Consecutive Months of 10%+ Unemployment Rates "struck", GW Bush's Great Repub Recession "struck", etc.
Seriously? Your School of Economics taught you that massive, historic job losses in the millions during Great (typically Repub) Economics Disasters are never really "lost" and that when recoveries and boom times are created (typically Dem. And note, they don't just "happen" nor are they "struck") thanks to real world efforts like legislation and new policies enacted, they were never really "gained"?
LOL. I'd ask for a refund of whatever you paid for those lessons if I were you. That is, unless they try to bamboozle you by floating different concepts than "pay" and "lessons" for that kind of event too.
Second, the millions upon millions of jobs Trump wiped out when his efforts finally produced Trump's Pandemic were truly wiped out and lost. They were not put "on hiatus" with pay, go take a vacation for a few weeks.Twelve million jobs were added between April, 2020 and January, 2021, when Biden took office. And employment was going to continue to increase regardless of who was president. Yes, we might have a somewhat higher unemployment rate and fewer jobs if not for the Democrats' spending bills in 2021 and 2022. But at what cost? The federal debt held by the public is $26 trillion.
Twelve million jobs were added between April, 2020 and January, 2021, when Biden took office. And employment was going to continue to increase regardless of who was president. Yes, we might have a somewhat higher unemployment rate and fewer jobs if not for the Democrats' spending bills in 2021 and 2022. But at what cost? The federal debt held by the public is $26 trillion.Employment did not increase no matter who was president after the 1929 Great Repub Crash until after FDR and the Dems took over in March 1933 and began to legislate the New Deal. The Coolidge / Hoover Twins of Supply-Side / Trickle-Down Tax Policy and Zero-to-Disastrous Economic Stewardship are still the revered Repub Party template that Reagan, Bush2 and Trump repeated. With the expected results.
If incoming Dem Biden has launched into the same lies, mocking mitigation measures and horrific mismanagement of the vaccine distribution and administration that Trump exhibited re the virus and Trump's Pandemic for every month of 2020, even more millions of jobs would have been lost. The post-election relief rally in the stock market after it was known that Biden won was one of if not the greatest stock market relief rally in history. Because the forward-looking stock market investors knew a Dem Biden was not going to pull a Repub Hoover, Reagan, Bush2 or Trump and make all the worst decisions to exacerbate their Repub economic disaster. In all probability every job recovery and unemployment rate decline after January 20 was based on that same premise.
Thanks, Joe.
BTW, the same dramatic change of course reflection point recovery in the stock market, jobs creation and the end of GW Bush's Great Recession began within two weeks of Obama signing and passing the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009. With virtually no Repub support. All Dems. Legislation, not simply sitting there waiting for a recovery that might not begin for another 4-5 years and not a matter of them simply saying, "But we're Democrats"! Legislation. Work. Doing Something. Not Doing Nothing or Doing Something Stupid.
And what followed was, as under FDR, Clinton, Biden and even Carter and JFK / LBJ, one of the Greatest Economic Recoveries and Jobs Creation Presidential Terms of all time.
If those things happen "no matter who is president" shouldn't it have happened at least once under a Repub president in the past 100 years or so? I mean, even due to random chance? Instead of not even once?
BTW, the same dramatic change of course reflection point recovery in the stock market, jobs creation and the end of GW Bush's Great Recession began within two weeks of Obama signing and passing the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act in 2009. With virtually no Repub support. All Dems. Legislation, not simply sitting there waiting for a recovery that might not begin for another 4-5 years and not a matter of them simply saying, "But we're Democrats"! Legislation. Work. Doing Something. Not Doing Nothing or Doing Something Stupid.
And what followed was, as under FDR, Clinton, Biden and even Carter and JFK / LBJ, one of the Greatest Economic Recoveries and Jobs Creation Presidential Terms of all time.I don't remember the details of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act but do believe it was appropriate and merited Republican support. OK, you've been working on me for over a year now, and you can now take pride in knowing I now recognize you're right about something. You have caused me to realize perhaps there's a kernel of truth in your claim that Republican intransigence was overdone. In that particular instance.
Calling what happened subsequently "one of the Greatest Economic Recoveries and Jobs Creation Presidential Terms of all time" is a huge exaggeration. The recovery was anemic. Obama and the Democrats did have the good sense to extend all the Bush tax cuts for two years, which was what a good Keynesian would tell you to do at the tail end of a recession. And to make the rate cuts permanent for all except high income earners. Too bad they didn't follow up with spending cuts once we were out of the woods and the economy was doing OK.
It ain't your daddy's Democratic Party any more though Tooms. The American Rescue Plan was overkill that busted the budget and kicked off inflation. Barrack Obama, Larry Summers and Jason Furman never would have proposed something like that, at that moment in time. Summers and Furman have said so.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/742771576039460864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E742771576039460864%7Ctwgr%5E9a1581d04d25e31d08631325663284e0faad58e8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2FPolitics%2Fdonald-trumps-past-statements-lgbt-rights%2Fstory%3Fid%3D48858527
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-caitlyn-jenner-bathroom-tower/story?id=38566263
OK, now I'm trolling.
After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.
We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldn’t vote for it.
Sorry, I know you're disappointed.
After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.
We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldnt vote for it.
Sorry, I know you're disappointed.And if we wanted Nothing or, FAR more likely, an absolute shit-storm greater disaster of a response to GW Bush's Great Repub Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction, we could have sat on our butts and Done Nothing until that mythical point in the distant pie-in-the-sky, Never Never Land, Never Ever Will Happen Future arrives when Repubs came up with a fix for that horrific Repub Policy and Stewardship economic disaster.
Thank God we didn't do the latter. Thank Obama-Biden and the Dems that we didn't have to.
I appears that you were not exactly awake, alert and paying attention to all or perhaps even any of the events going on in the country, in Congress especially, while Obama-Biden were taking office and Repub Policy and Stewardship economy was crashing down around our ears for the umpteenth time and brave free-market Capitalists were diving under their beds and shitting their pants for as many times.
Well, I was awake, alert and paying attention to who did and did not do what at that time. Obama-Biden and the Dems saved the USA and much of the world economy. Similar to what Biden-Harris did. You want to fault them for not nailing in advance down to the dime while everyone was staring into another unknowable, bottomless abyss of unprecedented catastrophic Repub economic policy and stewardship disaster, hey, knock yourself out. That is what theoretical, inattentive to the real world, economic acadamia is all about.
MarquisdeSade1
12-18-23, 03:40
"All of that was as bad or worse under Trump than under Biden.
Uh. You do know crimes occurred all around the world even before the creation of 24/7/365 Cable News Channels, 24/7/365 Internet Access and everyone keeping a locked and loaded smartphone camera at the ready in their hand, right?
Yes blame those damn iPhones and CNN LMAO.
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/investigations/woman-accused-of-million-dollar-ulta-crime-ring/509-6262e11e-461a-41c9-adf9-85f552cfb0cf
MarquisdeSade1
12-18-23, 19:47
"all of that was as bad or worse under Trump than under Biden.
Uh. You do know crimes occurred all around the world even before the creation of 24/7/365 Cable News Channels, 24/7/365 Internet Access and everyone keeping a locked and loaded smartphone camera at the ready in their hand, right?
W numbers, sweeeeet.
Thanks Dirtbag Joe.
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2023/12/16/joe-biden-spikes-homelessness-back-george-w-bushs-numbers/
MarquisdeSade1
12-18-23, 22:07
"After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.
We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldn't vote for it.
Sorry, I know you're disappointed."
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/biden-job-approval/2023/12/18/id/1146378/
Will he ever lose the support of you and ET?
MarquisdeSade1
12-19-23, 02:32
"After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.
We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldn't vote for it.
Sorry, I know you're disappointed. "
Cheap slaves compliments of Dirtbag Joe.
https://www.aol.com/news/minor-died-poultry-plant-accident-110205535.html
Icing on the cake for you and the rest of the Mitt fan club, would be if the family can't even sue!!
"After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.
We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldn't vote for it.
Sorry, I know you're disappointed."
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/biden-job-approval/2023/12/18/id/1146378/
Will he ever lose the support of you and ET?Your lord and savior got a lower Job Approval Rating in that same poll back when he had a job. Sort of. And he never lost your support. LOL:
32%
Trump Rating Hits Record Low.
Dec. 13, 2017
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_121317/
MarquisdeSade1
12-19-23, 18:05
"Aside from the easily predictable massive increase in the deficit once today's Repub Pink Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House gets fully on track reinforcing and celebrating their lord and savior Trump's most disastrous economy-crippling "achievements", we must include this as their own remarkable "achievement" in taking money out of the pockets of the American taxpayer and skyrocketing their deficits.
Debt ceiling brinksmanship has clear negative effects on taxpayers.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/debt-ceiling-brinksmanship-has-clear-negative-effects-on-taxpayers
THE DEBT.
The High Cost of Debt Ceiling Brinksmanship.
https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/08/28/High-Cost-Debt-Ceiling-Brinksmanship
Debt ceiling showdown "was incredibly costly" to USA, economic expert says.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/debt-ceiling-showdown-house-republicans-president-biden/
LOL. It is hilarious that anyone could point to one utterly irrelevant benefit for no one by their reducing the investment of provable recovery measures and therefore delaying the recovery from Trump's Repub Economic Disaster as a "savings" while they are also rabid proponents and practitioners of favorite Repub Party moves that genuinely cost America and American taxpayers more money, produce higher deficits and, oh as an added bonus for Repubs, provides at least a Trillion Dollars in free publicity and positive press for every anti-democratic authoritarian dictator and wannabe authoritarian dictator on the planet. Every time they do it. As this current Repub Loon House has done.
Shades of the usual Repub Party scam of dangling disproportionately greater tax cuts for top income margins and corporations but with the price of that ticket being another Great Repub Depression / Great Repub Recession and Massive Job Destruction, of course. It is such a blatant, woefully obvious misdirection con. But they get away with doing it as long as their benefactors in Mainstream Media continue to insinuate that their beloved Repub candidates probably "handle the economy better than Democrats."
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/12/19/dem-pollster-greenberg-biden-must-stop-saying-hes-making-progress-disposable-income-fell/
"Aside from the easily predictable massive increase in the deficit once today's Repub Pink Smaller and Smaller All The Time Tinkle House gets fully on track reinforcing and celebrating their lord and savior Trump's most disastrous economy-crippling "achievements", we must include this as their own remarkable "achievement" in taking money out of the pockets of the American taxpayer and skyrocketing their deficits.
Debt ceiling brinksmanship has clear negative effects on taxpayers.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/debt-ceiling-brinksmanship-has-clear-negative-effects-on-taxpayers
THE DEBT.
The High Cost of Debt Ceiling Brinksmanship.
https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/08/28/High-Cost-Debt-Ceiling-Brinksmanship
Debt ceiling showdown "was incredibly costly" to USA, economic expert says.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/debt-ceiling-showdown-house-republicans-president-biden/
LOL. It is hilarious that anyone could point to one utterly irrelevant benefit for no one by their reducing the investment of provable recovery measures and therefore delaying the recovery from Trump's Repub Economic Disaster as a "savings" while they are also rabid proponents and practitioners of favorite Repub Party moves that genuinely cost America and American taxpayers more money, produce higher deficits and, oh as an added bonus for Repubs, provides at least a Trillion Dollars in free publicity and positive press for every anti-democratic authoritarian dictator and wannabe authoritarian dictator on the planet. Every time they do it. As this current Repub Loon House has done.
Shades of the usual Repub Party scam of dangling disproportionately greater tax cuts for top income margins and corporations but with the price of that ticket being another Great Repub Depression / Great Repub Recession and Massive Job Destruction, of course. It is such a blatant, woefully obvious misdirection con. But they get away with doing it as long as their benefactors in Mainstream Media continue to insinuate that their beloved Repub candidates probably "handle the economy better than Democrats."
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/12/19/dem-pollster-greenberg-biden-must-stop-saying-hes-making-progress-disposable-income-fell/Uh-huh.
That's why spending and travel has been at "all time lows" ever since Biden and the Dems recovered us from the latest Great (Trump) Repub Economic Disaster.
Consumer spending reaches record high in October: report.
Dec. 4, 2023
https://thehill.com/business/4341569-consumer-spending-reaches-record-high-in-october-report/
Record US Holiday Air Travel to See 7.5 Million Fly, AAA Says.
Dec. 11, 2023
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-11/record-us-holiday-air-travel-to-see-7-5-million-fly-aaa-says
Nobody has any money!
Don't you have a link to a very long but shocking YouTube video showing people not shopping, not going anywhere and not doing anything for the first in their lives ever since January 20,2021?
These guys ought to cut the BS and just admit some of them are simply lousy CEOs, lousy managers and not good at their jobs. Stop passing the buck when they produce crap results like hack Repubs. You know, for the good of the country.
Target blamed theft and violence for 9 store closures. Crime is higher at locations it kept open nearby.
Dec. 19, 2023
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/19/target-store-closures-theft-and-crime-higher-nearby.html?__source=androidappshare
Target blamed theft and violence when it closed nine stores in four cities earlier this year, but a CNBC investigation found reported crime is worse at most of the locations it kept open near those stores.
In some cases, Target chose to keep operating stores in busier areas that had better foot traffic or higher median incomes, even though the locations saw more theft and violence.
CNBCs findings cast doubt on Targets explanation for the store closures and raise questions about whether the companys announcement was designed to advance its legislative agenda and obscure poor financial performance.Look, there is always a place for Know Nothings who produce crap results in the Republican Party. Take that up as your next career if you can't cut it selling scotch tape and dishwasher detergent.
"After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.
We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldn't vote for it.
Sorry, I know you're disappointed. "
Cheap slaves compliments of Dirtbag Joe.
https://www.aol.com/news/minor-died-poultry-plant-accident-110205535.html
Icing on the cake for you and the rest of the Mitt fan club, would be if the family can't even sue!!Self-described "Bothsiders" and "Libertarians" are really fully on your side in hoping and praying for Repub election victories, especially your lord and savior. The only difference is they "vote" for them indirectly by touting Third Party candidates or touting the imaginary virtues of being a "Neithersider" and thereby suppress Dem votes anyway, all of which tends to help your beloved Repub Party win elections.
Then, aside from creating truly historic rates of hyper-inflation driven by Trump's plan to "Close the border on day one", which Tiny hates now but will probably find a way to love then, the typical Repub bit where they defund, repeal or simply ignore and not enforce Regulations will find plenty of "legal" 16 or 38 year old American citizens getting chewed up and spit out in factory machinery.
"After reading a little more about the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, I understand why most Republicans didn't vote for it. There's too much pork.
We did need stimulus spending in February, 2009, but said Act was not ideal. It was better than nothing, but if I were a Republican legislator and knew the bill would pass with Democratic votes, I wouldn't vote for it.
Sorry, I know you're disappointed. "
Cheap slaves compliments of Dirtbag Joe.
https://www.aol.com/news/minor-died-poultry-plant-accident-110205535.html
Icing on the cake for you and the rest of the Mitt fan club, would be if the family can't even sue!!Self-described "Bothsiders" and "Libertarians" are really fully on your side in hoping and praying for Repub election victories, especially your lord and savior. The only difference is they "vote" for them indirectly by touting Third Party candidates or touting the imaginary virtues of being a "Neithersider" and thereby suppress Dem votes anyway, all of which tends to help your beloved Repub Party win elections.
Then, aside from creating truly historic rates of hyper-inflation driven by Trump's plan to "Close the border on day one", which Tiny hates now but will probably find a way to love then, the typical Repub bit where they defund, repeal or simply ignore and not enforce Regulations will find plenty of "legal" 16 or 38 year old American citizens getting chewed up and spit out in factory machinery.
The same as the 1 Million+ Americans that Trump Mass Murdered so far by defunding and removing those critical Regulators in the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams at those Chinese labs in 2018 and 2019.
That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Just sayin'.
MarquisdeSade1
12-20-23, 04:37
"Uh-huh.
That's why spending and travel has been at "all time lows" ever since Biden and the Dems recovered us from the latest Great (Trump) Repub Economic Disaster.
"Consumer spending reaches record high in October: report.
Dec. 4, 2023.
https://thehill.com/business/4341569-consumer-spending-reaches-record-high-in-october-report/
Record US Holiday Air Travel to See 7. 5 Million Fly, AAA Says.
Dec. 11,2023.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-11/record-us-holiday-air-travel-to-see-7-5-million-fly-aaa-says
Nobody has any money!
Don't you have a link to a very long but shocking YouTube video showing people not shopping, not going anywhere and not doing anything for the first in their lives ever since January 20,2021?
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/democrat-pollster-biden-losing-ground/2023/12/19/id/1146516/
"When your approval with your base is lower than. Your opponent, you know. You need a new start," Greenberg said. "What matters to voters is how many months people have been struggling to deal with inflation, and each month they get madder and madder about it as long as their wages are trailing prices. ".
MarquisdeSade1
12-20-23, 06:46
"Uh-huh.
That's why spending and travel has been at "all time lows" ever since Biden and the Dems recovered us from the latest Great (Trump) Repub Economic Disaster.
Consumer spending reaches record high in October: report.
Dec. 4, 2023.
https://thehill.com/business/4341569-consumer-spending-reaches-record-high-in-october-report/
Record US Holiday Air Travel to See 7. 5 Million Fly, AAA Says.
Dec. 11,2023.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-11/record-us-holiday-air-travel-to-see-7-5-million-fly-aaa-says
Nobody has any money!
Don't you have a link to a very long but shocking YouTube video showing people not shopping, not going anywhere and not doing anything for the first in their lives ever since January 20,2021?
https://nypost.com/2023/12/18/lifestyle/gen-z-millennials-are-doom-spending-to-cope-with-economy/?utm_source=gmail&utm_campaign=android_nyp
"Uh-huh.
That's why spending and travel has been at "all time lows" ever since Biden and the Dems recovered us from the latest Great (Trump) Repub Economic Disaster.
Consumer spending reaches record high in October: report.
Dec. 4, 2023.
https://thehill.com/business/4341569-consumer-spending-reaches-record-high-in-october-report/
Record US Holiday Air Travel to See 7. 5 Million Fly, AAA Says.
Dec. 11,2023.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-11/record-us-holiday-air-travel-to-see-7-5-million-fly-aaa-says
Nobody has any money!.Almost half of Americans with credit card debt (49%) are so secure in their jobs and wages now they are confident they will pay off all of their credit card debt within a year.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jaw-dropping-stats-state-credit-130022967.html
I could not have said that during the Reagan years, the Bush1 years and the GW Bush years. I doubt many Americans could. And if anyone said that in 2919, I'll bet they choked on that idea by 2020.
Oh, also from that link:
The survey found that 47% of Americans have not been debt-free since 2018 to 2022, 14% have not been debt-free since 2013 to 2017, 11% have not been debt-free since 2008 to 2012 and 15% havent been debt-free since before 2008.Didn't your lord and savior boast about being "The King of Debt"? Looks like he finally got one right.
But considering it is likely the vast majority of Americans are more competent and responsible than Donald J. Trump, I wouldn't lose any sleep over their credit card debt if I were you. During the Great Trump / Repub Economic Disaster, sure, there was plenty to worry about. But during this Great Biden / Dem Recovery? Nope.
BTW, how many years do you suppose it has been since a USA-based Bank was even willing to extend your lord and savior significant credit either on a card or in a direct loan? LOL.
That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Just sayin'.Now Quinnipiac is showing Biden ahead of Trump in a poll that must have been conducted before a State Supreme Court ruled that, sure enough, the USA Constitution stipulates in no uncertain terms that anti-America Insurrectionist Traitors like Donald Trump who already took and then proudly and publicly broke an Oath of Office to Preserve and Protect the laws in that very Constitution, lying through his teeth about that as well as everything else the whole time and ever since, are no longer qualified and eligible to be believed on such a serious proposition ever again. And, further, that it would be illegal for a state to grant him a second shot at it.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Last month Qinnipiac was among the polling services along with that NYT / Sienna Poll that showed Trump ahead of Biden, which had Mainstream Media's heart all aflutter and excited to share that great news for its typically pro Repub "Bothsiderism" commercial and financial desires. But now, in light of both showing Biden ahead of Trump; crickets.
Still just sayin'.
Oh and, yes, that "2919" in my previous post was a typo. I meant to type 2019 as the year when, for anyone who thought they might pay off all of their credit card debt by the following year as, thanks to Joe and the Dems, a whopping 49% of credit card users feel confident about today, that assumption was certainly flushed down the shitter for the next few years thanks to the all-too-common results of Trump's classic disastrous Repub economic policies and stewardship in 2018,2019 and all through 2020.
Occasional typos are a hazard due to small keyboards and big thumbs. LOL.
MarquisdeSade1
12-21-23, 08:25
"That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Just sayin'. ".
On your electric vehicle (bike) and get to the nearest abortion provider, arent you overdue for another.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/12/20/kellyanne-conway-january-6-obsessed-dems-drive-electric-vehicles-to-get-an-abortion/
More abortions = less Democrats in the future.
MarquisdeSade1
12-21-23, 08:31
"That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Just sayin'. ".
Are existential threats to Democracy, charging their opponent with 90 felonies and illegally trying to kick him off the ballot.
They cheated in 2020 and trying to throw everything including the kitchen sink at him again.
They know they could never beat MAGA fair and square.
Dirtbag Joe needs to be indicted for all of this Jan 2025.
Will he pardon the Junkie and himself (and his whole Dirtbag crime family) before hes run out of office?
MarquisdeSade1
12-21-23, 08:44
That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Just sayin'. ".
https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2023/12/20/el-salvadors-nayib-bukele-u-s-cant-lecture-about-democracy-after-trump-colorado-ruling/
Now Quinnipiac is showing Biden ahead of Trump in a poll that must have been conducted before a State Supreme Court ruled that, sure enough, the USA Constitution stipulates in no uncertain terms that anti-America Insurrectionist Traitors like Donald Trump who already took and then proudly and publicly broke an Oath of Office to Preserve and Protect the laws in that very Constitution, lying through his teeth about that as well as everything else the whole time and ever since, are no longer qualified and eligible to be believed on such a serious proposition ever again. And, further, that it would be illegal for a state to grant him a second shot at it.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
The latest stock market results and the coming easing of FED interest rate interference, has the markets roaring and surging to new highs.
‘Good one, Donald’: Biden flaunts stock market record highs, mocks Trump for predicting ‘collapse’
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/15/biden-flaunts-stock-market-record-highs-mocks-trump-for-predicting-collapse.html
President Joe Biden continues to delivery up exceptional economic results that translate to 52-wk and all-highs on all major stock indexes.
Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress on inflation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/12/13/dow-jones-stock-market-record-high-economy-interest-rates/
Real stewardship, real economy and real results...Book it!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/742771576039460864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E742771576039460864%7Ctwgr%5E9a1581d04d25e31d08631325663284e0faad58e8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2FPolitics%2Fdonald-trumps-past-statements-lgbt-rights%2Fstory%3Fid%3D48858527
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-caitlyn-jenner-bathroom-tower/story?id=38566263
OK, now I'm trolling.If tweet were true, it's hard to see why MAGA nation and the faithless would be upset about the gay priests and LGBTQ rights. I'm sure just more subterfuge for the gullible MAGA media, who eat that "shit-up". Just like when he says, "Dictator ONLY on day 1"
Well, you pegged me wrong, I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. That's why the Marquis believes I'm one of Satan's children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism
"Social/Economic liberal", is that what you Repubs "moderate" and "normies" are calling themselves these days? (...kkkk!).
Not too worry, in light of the Pope now allowing priests to bless LGBTQ couples, there's maybe hope for all those being called "son(s) of Satan" and who knows, maybe even the 2x impeached, 4x indicted "devil" himself? (...kkKk!)
Local leaders welcome popes statement on LGBTQ couples
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/local-leaders-welcome-pope-s-statement-on-lgbtq-couples/ar-AA1lHUFq
The homophobes here and at MILFs for Liberty, must be blowing a gasket, over the Pope's blessing of LGBTQ congregation. I wonder what that does for their "DON't SAY GAY!" laws and their so called religious beliefs, if the Pope is okaying/blessing LGBTQ unions?
MarquisdeSade1
12-21-23, 15:45
"Well, you pegged me wrong, I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. That's why the Marquis believes I'm one of Satan's children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism".
https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2023/12/21/politico-latinos-embrace-gop-as-democrats-favor-migrants/
Allahu Akbar.
The DNC and Dirtbag Joe
"That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Just sayin'. ".
Are existential threats to Democracy, charging their opponent with 90 felonies and illegally trying to kick him off the ballot.
They cheated in 2020 and trying to throw everything including the kitchen sink at him again.
They know they could never beat MAGA fair and square.
Dirtbag Joe needs to be indicted for all of this Jan 2025.
Will he pardon the Junkie and himself (and his whole Dirtbag crime family) before hes run out of office?The lawsuit that brought it to this point in Colorado was filed by Repubs and 1 Independent. No Dems.
The DNC and Joe Biden had nothing to do with it.
And it has all been 100% legal. Your boy disqualified himself and made himself Constitutionally ineligible to be a so-called potus or any other federal official again.
But, there is still hope for you. There are surely enough America-hating Repub hypocrites on the Supreme Court to once again reverse every States Rights principle their party has been blathering about since forever and carve out a "one time only" exception to what is clearly stated in the USA Constitution in order to help your boy get into office and continue to shit all over the economy and national security as The Worst So-Called President of All Time. The same as they did for Repub GW Bush, The Second Worst So-Called President of All Time.
The latest stock market results and the coming easing of FED interest rate interference, has the markets roaring and surging to new highs.
Good one, Donald: Biden flaunts stock market record highs, mocks Trump for predicting collapse
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/15/biden-flaunts-stock-market-record-highs-mocks-trump-for-predicting-collapse.html
President Joe Biden continues to delivery up exceptional economic results that translate to 52-wk and all-highs on all major stock indexes.
Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress on inflation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/12/13/dow-jones-stock-market-record-high-economy-interest-rates/
Real stewardship, real economy and real results...Book it!That's quite an achievement! During the last 100 years, the Dow only hit records during the Biden, Trump, Obama, George W. Bush, Clinton, George H. W. Bush, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Hoover and Coolidge Administrations.
In fact, the only elected presidents during the last century who didn't see records set in the Dow were Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and Jimmy Carter.
Looking forward to Toom's explanation, most likely during a cherry picked period, on how the stock market has outperformed under Democratic presidents. Tooms, it's just coincidence, like Roosevelt, Truman and Carter being Democrats.
"Well, you pegged me wrong, I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. That's why the Marquis believes I'm one of Satan's children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism".
https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2023/12/21/politico-latinos-embrace-gop-as-democrats-favor-migrants/
Allahu Akbar.Your hero, lord and savior, oppressing immigrants and hiring undocumented workers. All to save a buck.
https://time.com/4465744/donald-trump-undocumented-workers/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/5-questions-about-president-trumps-use-of-undocumented-workers/2019/12/04/29439928-16a2-11ea-a659-7d69641c6ff7_story.html
He threatened to call the Immigration and Naturalization Service and have the Poles deported to avoid paying them. They were working 12 hours a day under unsafe conditions and not getting paid.
Not too worry, in light of the Pope now allowing priests to bless LGBTQ couples, there's maybe hope for all those being called "son(s) of Satan"I'm not Catholic.
MarquisdeSade1
12-21-23, 22:05
"Your hero, lord and savior, oppressing immigrants and hiring undocumented workers. All to save a buck.
https://time.com/4465744/donald-trump-undocumented-workers/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/5-questions-about-president-trumps-use-of-undocumented-workers/2019/12/04/29439928-16a2-11ea-a659-7d69641c6ff7_story.html
He threatened to call the Immigration and Naturalization Service and have the Poles deported to avoid paying them. They were working 12 hours a day under unsafe conditions and not getting paid. ".
Seriously you're going to try to use Time or WAPO as a source LMAO.
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/12/20/pollster-frank-luntz-donald-trump-is-more-likely-beat-biden-after-colorado-ballot-removal/
WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP.
MarquisdeSade1
12-21-23, 22:09
"If tweet were true, it's hard to see why MAGA nation and the faithless would be upset about the gay priests and LGBTQ rights. I'm sure just more subterfuge for the gullible MAGA media, who eat that "shit-up". Just like when he says, "Dictator ONLY on day 1".
"Social / Economic liberal", is that what you Repubs "moderate" and "normies" are calling themselves these days? (. kkkk!
Not too worry, in light of the Pope now allowing priests to bless LGBTQ couples, there's maybe hope for all those being called "son (s) of Satan" and who knows, maybe even the 2 x impeached, 4 x indicted "devil" himself? (. kkKk!
Local leaders welcome popes statement on LGBTQ couples.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/local-leaders-welcome-pope-s-statement-on-lgbtq-couples/ar-AA1lHUFq
The homophobes here and at MILFs for Liberty, must be blowing a gasket, over the Pope's blessing of LGBTQ congregation. I wonder what that does for their "DON't SAY GAY!" laws and their so called religious beliefs, if the Pope is okaying / blessing LGBTQ unions?
https://www.newsmax.com/us/franklin-graham-pope-francis/2023/12/21/id/1146754/
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/pope-francis-same-sex-couples-catholic/2023/12/20/id/1146680/
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/rev-murray-pope-same-sex/2023/12/19/id/1146480/
He will say anything for a few Argentinian pesos.
https://www.ncronline.org/news/javier-milei-who-called-pope-filthy-leftist-wins-presidential-elections-argentina
That's quite an achievement! During the last 100 years, the Dow only hit records during the Biden, Trump, Obama, George W. Bush, Clinton, George H. W. Bush, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Hoover and Coolidge Administrations.
In fact, the only elected presidents during the last century who didn't see records set in the Dow were Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and Jimmy Carter.
Looking forward to Toom's explanation, most likely during a cherry picked period, on how the stock market has outperformed under Democratic presidents. Tooms, it's just coincidence, like Roosevelt, Truman and Carter being Democrats.That one is so easy I bet even you knew it before you posted that. The same as you knew the stock market has indeed performed better under Dems than Repubs:
Of that group only Hoover, GW Bush and Trump produced stock market crashes well beyond a conventional 20% Correction decline.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stocks-down-coronavirus-dow-below-20000-first-time-in-three-years-2020-03-18/
The stock market experiences gains roughly 75% of the time. That is the normal tendency for it. That is a factor in why investing in broadly diversified Index funds for the long term produces better results for more investors than stock picking; you will go along for that 75% ride and not miss it standing on the sidelines guessing which individual stocks might make up for what you missed.
But the 25% of the time when it declines can be brutal. History shows Repubs produce the most brutal declines. Well, all of them for the past 100 years or so.
It is during the most brutal declines that investors who just can't handle the pain bail out. By the millions. And usually at or near the bottom. Life savings and future plans are wiped out. Forever, if, as is often the case those investors vow to never return again.
That kind of deep decline has never happened under Dem economic policy and stewardship, it has only happened under Repubs since the Great Repub Crash and Depression.
Lackluster stock market returns are not damaging in that way. They do not tend to shake out investors by the millions after scary, serious, historic losses. For one thing, that is because such a period of lackluster returns, say 15-24 months, often comes about because the Fed spends that much time dithering over whether and how much to ease off raising or ease off lowering Fed Funds Rates in light of clear signs of a recovery from, typically, a Great Repub Economic Disaster. The Fed's dithering and indecision about that prevents investors from going in as much as they would ordinarily during such economically benign times. And the overall improvement in the economy keeps them from bailing out entirely.
Such was the case for about 16 months at the end of Obama's Great Dem Recovery while the Fed dithered over raising Rates as the full Recovery was solidifying and, this time, regarding lowering Fed Funds Rates related to unavoidable Trump's Pandemic Recovery Inflation, for the past 22 months of Biden's Great Dem Recovery. The markets simply traded within a range roughly between a Correction and the market high, not yet confident enough (due to Fed dithering about rates) to exceed the previous all time closing high.
That is much preferred over those Great Repub Crashes during periods of, wildly coincidentally I know, the exact same Repub-style disproportionately high tax cuts for top margins and corporations accompanied by little or no attention to regulations that, again, only wildly coincidentally, are promoted and overseen only by Repubs and never by Dems.
All wild coincidences, of course. The Major Repub Crashes and the Historic Dem Recoveries, that is. For about 100 years so far.
"Your hero, lord and savior, oppressing immigrants and hiring undocumented workers. All to save a buck.
https://time.com/4465744/donald-trump-undocumented-workers/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/5-questions-about-president-trumps-use-of-undocumented-workers/2019/12/04/29439928-16a2-11ea-a659-7d69641c6ff7_story.html
He threatened to call the Immigration and Naturalization Service and have the Poles deported to avoid paying them. They were working 12 hours a day under unsafe conditions and not getting paid. ".
Seriously you're going to try to use Time or WAPO as a source LMAO.
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/12/20/pollster-frank-luntz-donald-trump-is-more-likely-beat-biden-after-colorado-ballot-removal/
WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP.Of course, Trump's poll numbers went up among Repubs for the Repub Primary election. That is why I pointed out it was all admitted Repubs and 1 likely Repub only pretending to be an "Independent" that filed that lawsuit knowing full well the Colorado Supreme Court would have no choice but to follow the clear and unambiguous Constitutional disqualification and of Trump as a so-called potus and determine him ineligible to run. Those Repubs knew their Party loves itself some anti-American Insurrectionist Traitors bent on crapping all over the USA Economy, National Security, the USA Constitution and wiping out millions upon millions of jobs while publicly blowing Xi, Kim and Putin.
Your boy, in other words. Especially him. But almost any other Repub will do.
However, I question that it helps Trump beat Biden. See, there have all along been telltale signs in those polls that mostly deeply aggrieved admitted Repubs and deeply aggreived Repubs pretending to be "Independents" were racing to their phones and computers this far out from the general election in order to express to any and all pollsters their undying love for Trump or any other Repub certain to produce the aforementioned disastrous Repub results. For example:
https://www.deseret.com/2023/12/5/23982733/poll-republicans-think-trump-will-win-but-if-he-doesnt-this-is-who-they-think-will-be-the-nominee
Do you think Donald Trump will win or lose the Republican primaries for President?
ALL VOTERS:
60% Yes
40% NoHuh? 40% of ALL VOTERS sampled in that poll think the idiot Repub whose poll numbers has had him 50-60 points ahead of the nearest Repub rival for the nomination in practically every poll since the beginning, a greater margin for the GOP nomination than any candidate in history, think he WON'T get the nomination? Before this Colorado Supreme Court decision came down?
Holy shit. Obviously, very, very few VOTERS have been paying the least bit of attention to any of this up to now. If they had been, that number would have been more like 5%.
So now is the time when more and more voters will finally begin to pay attention to what the candidates stand for, have done and are campaigning on. Which, as usual, is a much worse proposition for Trump or any other Repub than for Biden. Or any other Dem, for that matter.
That one is so easy I bet even you knew it before you posted that. The same as you knew the stock market has indeed performed better under Dems than Repubs:
Of that group only Hoover, GW Bush and Trump produced stock market crashes well beyond a conventional 20% Correction decline.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stocks-down-coronavirus-dow-below-20000-first-time-in-three-years-2020-03-18/
The stock market experiences gains roughly 75% of the time. That is the normal tendency for it. That is a factor in why investing in broadly diversified Index funds for the long term produces better results for more investors than stock picking; you will go along for that 75% ride and not miss it standing on the sidelines guessing which individual stocks might make up for what you missed.
But the 25% of the time when it declines can be brutal. History shows Repubs produce the most brutal declines. Well, all of them for the past 100 years or so.
It is during the most brutal declines that investors who just can't handle the pain bail out. By the millions. And usually at or near the bottom. Life savings and future plans are wiped out. Forever, if, as is often the case those investors vow to never return again.
That kind of deep decline has never happened under Dem economic policy and stewardship, it has only happened under Repubs since the Great Repub Crash and Depression.
Lackluster stock market returns are not damaging in that way. They do not tend to shake out investors by the millions after scary, serious, historic losses. For one thing, that is because such a period of lackluster returns, say 15-24 months, often comes about because the Fed spends that much time dithering over whether and how much to ease off raising or ease off lowering Fed Funds Rates in light of clear signs of a recovery from, typically, a Great Repub Economic Disaster. The Fed's dithering and indecision about that prevents investors from going in as much as they would ordinarily during such economically benign times. And the overall improvement in the economy keeps them from bailing out entirely.
Such was the case for about 16 months at the end of Obama's Great Dem Recovery while the Fed dithered over raising Rates as the full Recovery was solidifying and, this time, regarding lowering Fed Funds Rates related to unavoidable Trump's Pandemic Recovery Inflation, for the past 22 months of Biden's Great Dem Recovery. The markets simply traded within a range roughly between a Correction and the market high, not yet confident enough (due to Fed dithering about rates) to exceed the previous all time closing high.
That is much preferred over those Great Repub Crashes during periods of, wildly coincidentally I know, the exact same Repub-style disproportionately high tax cuts for top margins and corporations accompanied by little or no attention to regulations that, again, only wildly coincidentally, are promoted and overseen only by Repubs and never by Dems.
All wild coincidences, of course. The Major Repub Crashes and the Historic Dem Recoveries, that is. For about 100 years so far.Stock market declines, recessions and a pandemic would have occurred in 2020 and around 2008/2009 if John Kerry or Hillary Clinton had been president, instead of Bush and Trump. About Hoover, I don't remember back to 1929. The party of the president is pretty far down the list of what causes market indices to go up and down.
That's an interesting theory you have about tax cuts and market performance. Very unconventional. Individual tax cuts provide stimulus to the economy and corporate cuts boost after tax profits, which in turn cause share prices to increase, all else being equal.
Please recall the NBER piece that determined changes in corporate taxation in 2018 as a result of the Republicans' TCJA actually caused government revenues to be higher than they would be otherwise. Everybody, the corporations, workers, and the taxpayer, are better off as a result -- more corporate profits, more jobs, higher wages, and higher revenues to the government.
Did it occur to you that one of the reasons for higher corporate profits and thus higher share prices is the TCJA? Recall that by the estimates in the NBER paper it took 4 years for the benefits of the TCJA to kick in to such an extent that government revenues are higher than they would have been otherwise. Similarly the benefits to investment, jobs and corporate profits are greater now than they were in 2018.
The USA has the most progressive tax system in the developed world. It had the highest corporate rate in the developed world prior to 2018.
"Your hero, lord and savior, oppressing immigrants and hiring undocumented workers. All to save a buck.
https://time.com/4465744/donald-trump-undocumented-workers/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/5-questions-about-president-trumps-use-of-undocumented-workers/2019/12/04/29439928-16a2-11ea-a659-7d69641c6ff7_story.html
He threatened to call the Immigration and Naturalization Service and have the Poles deported to avoid paying them. They were working 12 hours a day under unsafe conditions and not getting paid. ".
Seriously you're going to try to use Time or WAPO as a source LMAO.
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/12/20/pollster-frank-luntz-donald-trump-is-more-likely-beat-biden-after-colorado-ballot-removal/
WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP.https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/politics/2019/06/18/we-are-not-bad-people-undocumented-workers-say-trump-hired-them/4879205007/
https://www.usw.org/blog/2016/the-story-behind-donald-trumps-undocumented-polish-workers
https://thehill.com/latino/429136-more-than-100-undocumented-immigrants-worked-at-trumps-bedminster-resort-during/
https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-undocumented-immigrants-trump-20190208-story.html
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a30379305/trump-winery-undocumented-workers-fired/
Trump used Chinese factories to manufacture products he sold, including Trump ties "produced in Chinese Factories under horrific conditions. " He also invested in China, has a bank account in China, borrowed money from a Chinese government bank, paid taxes in China, leased office space to a Chinese government bank for $1. 9 million per year, and has sold real estate to individuals and entities associated with the Chinese government. As well as a lot of real estate to Chinese individuals who received residency and citizenship in the USA in return for buying the properties.
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/donald-trump-ties-chinese-factory-horrific-conditions-racked-report
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/donald-trump-sells-chinese-goods-accusing-china-stealing/story?id=31826791
https://www.ft.com/content/9eb753d8-098a-4c05-af95-0e11fb1607df
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/trump-taxes-china.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/23/forbes-estimates-china-paid-trump-at-least-54-million-since-he-took-office-via-mysterious-trump-tower-lease/?sh=45c12e33ed11
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-07/trump-tower-financed-by-rich-chinese-who-invest-cash-for-visas?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0faY-dujgwMVWVR_AB2mnQP7EAMYASAAEgLrLfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&utm_campaign=NB_ENG_DSAXX_DSAXXXXXXXXXX_EVG_XXXX_XXX_COUSA_EN_EN_X_BLOM_GO_SE_XXX_XXXXXXXXXX&utm_medium=cpc_search
MarquisdeSade1
12-22-23, 20:25
"Trump used Chinese factories to manufacture products he sold, including Trump ties "produced in Chinese Factories under horrific conditions. " he also invested in China, has a bank account in China, borrowed money from a Chinese government bank, paid taxes in China, leased office space to a Chinese government bank for $1. 9 million per year, and has sold real estate to individuals and entities associated with the Chinese government. As well as a lot of real estate to Chinese individuals who received residency and citizenship in the USA in return for buying the properties.
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/donald-trump-ties-chinese-factory-horrific-conditions-racked-report
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/donald-trump-sells-chinese-goods-accusing-china-stealing/story?id=3182679
https://www.ft.com/content/9eb753d8-098a-4c05-af95-0e11fb1607df
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/trump-taxes-china.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/23/forbes-estimates-china-paid-trump-at-least-54-million-since-he-took-office-via-mysterious-trump-tower-lease/?sh=45c12e33ed11
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-07/trump-tower-financed-by-rich-chinese-who-invest-cash-for-visas?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0faY-dujgwMVWVR_AB2mnQP7EAMYASAAEgLrLfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&utm_campaign=NB_ENG_DSAXX_DSAXXXXXXXXXX_EVG_XXXX_XXX_COUSA_EN_EN_X_BLOM_GO_SE_XXX_XXXXXXXXXX&utm_medium=cpc_search".
ROTFLMMFAO.
OMG you're worse than ET hey wait a second, I think you are ET you must have 2 accounts LMAO.
MarquisdeSade1
12-22-23, 22:18
Even the CCP laughs at DNC desperation and fear of MAGA.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/21/china-gloats-chaotic-trump-colorado-ruling-using-law-political-weapon/
Only 10 more months! Approx. 300 days.
Intelligence as measured by IQ tests peaks around age 20 to 40 and then heads downward. But IQ is adjusted for age. By definition, the average IQ of 20 year olds would be 100. The average for 50 year olds is also 100, as is the average for 80 year olds. This is even though people get stupider and score lower on the tests as they get older.
Alan Kaufman, a researcher at Yale, calculates a "full scale" (global) IQ, where he removes the adjustment for age, and adds an adjustment for educational levels of people in different age groups:
https://metafact.io/factcheck_answers/2355
Based on Kaufman's research, the average full scale IQ for people 20 to 44 is about 100. Then it drops as follows:
45 to 54 years old - 97.
55 to 64 years old - 94.
65 to 69 years old - 90.
70 to 74 years old - 86.
75 years and older - 79.
So lets assume Joe Biden is of average intelligence. He graduated in the bottom part of his classes at the University of Delaware and Syracuse University Law School. Some believe he wouldn't have graduated from either if he weren't a skilled plagiarizer. Throughout his career he's seemed somewhat mentally challenged from time to time.
I think "average" is reasonable.
Biden is 81 years old. So let's go with the "full scale" IQ of 79 above, for people 75 and older.
Here's an IQ percentile converter.
https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/iq-percentile
If I plug in 79, I get 8%. In other words, if Biden is of average intelligence for your person 75+ years old, he'd be pretty close to the bottom, in the 8% percentile, for people 20 to 44 years old.
I plugged that into a couple of other converters and got about the same number.
Think about it another way. Human Rights Watch says "to be diagnosed as having mental retardation, a person must have an IQ below 70-75":
https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/ustat/ustat0301-01.htm
If Biden's IQ is 79, four points higher than the 75 cutoff, we have a president who'd be pretty close to a retard if he were in the 20 to 44 age group. How much sense does that make?
Trump's not much better. If elected next year, he'll be 82 when his term expires.
We need new blood! Yes, Ronald Reagan did a great job. But he was "only" 77 when he left office.
Stock market declines, recessions and a pandemic would have occurred in 2020 and around 2008/2009 if John Kerry or Hillary Clinton had been president, instead of Bush and Trump. About Hoover, I don't remember back to 1929. The party of the president is pretty far down the list of what causes market indices to go up and down.
That's an interesting theory you have about tax cuts and market performance. Very unconventional. Individual tax cuts provide stimulus to the economy and corporate cuts boost after tax profits, which in turn cause share prices to increase, all else being equal. . . . (...kkkk!) I so do get a kick out of your "WHAT IF...?" type posts!
Coincidentally, Disney just started it's 2nd season of "WHAT IF...?". Your post, much like the Disney show, makes for terrific fantasy. (...kkkk!)
(...kkkk!) I so do get a kick out of your "WHAT IF...?" type posts!
Coincidentally, Disney just started it's 2nd season of "WHAT IF...?". Your post, much like the Disney show, makes for terrific fantasy. (...kkkk!)OK Spidy, since you're convinced of the cause-and-effect relationship between the party of the president and stock market performance, I've got some great additional areas of research for you and Tooms to tackle:
https://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
You have to put all the blame for the 1929-1939, 2008/2009 and 2020 downturns on Republican presidents to come to your conclusions:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID2960458_code16209.pdf?abstractid=2960458&mirid=1
I can guaran-damn-tee you that 2020 would have happened with or without Trump. And it's very doubtful a Democrat presidential administration would have avoided 2008/2009. I don't know about 1929, but certainly the governing class and economists, from both parties, have since learned a lot about using fiscal and monetary policy to ameliorate downturns since then.
MarquisdeSade1
12-23-23, 02:35
"Intelligence as measured by IQ tests peaks around age 20 to 40 and then heads downward. But IQ is adjusted for age. By definition, the average IQ of 20 year olds would be 100. The average for 50 year olds is also 100, as is the average for 80 year olds. This is even though people get stupider and score lower on the tests as they get older.
Alan Kaufman, a researcher at Yale, calculates a "full scale" (global) IQ, where he removes the adjustment for age, and adds an adjustment for educational levels of people in different age groups:
https://metafact.io/factcheck_answers/2355
Based on Kaufman's research, the average full scale IQ for people 20 to 44 is about 100. Then it drops as follows:
45 to 54 years old - 97.
55 to 64 years old - 94.
65 to 69 years old - 90.
70 to 74 years old - 86.
75 years and older - 79.
So lets assume Joe Biden is of average intelligence. He graduated in the bottom part of his classes at the University of Delaware and Syracuse University Law School. Some believe he wouldn't have graduated from either if he weren't a skilled plagiarizer. Throughout his career he's seemed somewhat mentally challenged from time to time.
I think "average" is reasonable.
Biden is 81 years old. So let's go with the "full scale" IQ of 79 above, for people 75 and older.
Here's an IQ percentile converter.
https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/iq-percentile
If I plug in 79, I get 8%. In other words, if Biden is of average intelligence for your person 75+ years old, he'd be pretty close to the bottom, in the 8% percentile, for people 20 to 44 years old.
I plugged that into a couple of other converters and got about the same number.
Think about it another way. Human Rights Watch says "to be diagnosed as having mental retardation, a person must have an IQ below 70-75":
https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/ustat/ustat0301-01.htm
If Biden's IQ is 79, four points higher than the 75 cutoff, we have a president who'd be pretty close to a retard if he were in the 20 to 44 age group. How much sense does that make?
Trump's not much better. If elected next year, he'll be 82 when his term expires.
We need new blood! Yes, Ronald Reagan did a great job. But he was "only" 77 when he left office. ".
Great job? Doing what shitting his pants? Ronny the Retard was shitting his pants long before he ever left the White House.
Skilled plagiarizer? LOL but how about Barry Hussein that dum MFer still won't release his grades 15 yrs after 2008.
I'm guessing any school he "attended" was ordered by the deep state to BURN all records, so they are NEVER seen.
And being the stable genius that he is I'm sure our Lord and Savior is a very high performing outlier.
Trump is sharper and more energetic than any college grads, hes a very young 77.
Crusty Dirtbag Joe is a very very old 81.
New blood ok 2028 Donald Trump Jr and Tucker for VP theres your new blood!!
Stock market declines, recessions and a pandemic would have occurred in 2020 and around 2008/2009 if John Kerry or Hillary Clinton had been president, instead of Bush and Trump. About Hoover, I don't remember back to 1929. The party of the president is pretty far down the list of what causes market indices to go up and down.
That's an interesting theory you have about tax cuts and market performance. Very unconventional. Individual tax cuts provide stimulus to the economy and corporate cuts boost after tax profits, which in turn cause share prices to increase, all else being equal.
Please recall the NBER piece that determined changes in corporate taxation in 2018 as a result of the Republicans' TCJA actually caused government revenues to be higher than they would be otherwise. Everybody, the corporations, workers, and the taxpayer, are better off as a result -- more corporate profits, more jobs, higher wages, and higher revenues to the government.
Did it occur to you that one of the reasons for higher corporate profits and thus higher share prices is the TCJA? Recall that by the estimates in the NBER paper it took 4 years for the benefits of the TCJA to kick in to such an extent that government revenues are higher than they would have been otherwise. Similarly the benefits to investment, jobs and corporate profits are greater now than they were in 2018.
The USA has the most progressive tax system in the developed world. It had the highest corporate rate in the developed world prior to 2018.1. There is nothing unconventional about it at all. Bear Markets typically accompany Recessions. Mega Bear Markets would naturally and logically accompany Great Depressions and Great Recessions where Unemployment Rates spike up into double digits and / or jobs are wiped out by the millions. All of which occurred due to Repub economic policy and stewardship (the POTUS being both the policy guide and "decider" and the steward. Sorry) and none of which occurred due to that of a Dem for the past 100 years or so. Wildly coincidentally, of course.
2. I am always talking about tax cuts. You know, those thingies POTUSes generally propose in order to produce a necessary economic stimulus at a given moment in time. Might even be temporary until the economy gets back on track. When, where, why, how much of a cut and on whom is the "stewardship" part of it, completely aside from the "fact" of a tax cut. Clearly, obviously and inarguably supported by every bit of data and historical record available, not all tax cuts are created equal and they all don't produce the same result simply because somebody's taxes got cut.
It turns out Repub tax cuts, when, where, why, how much and on whom, along with their "stewardship", if any while they are out fishing, riding ponies, clearing brush down at the ranch or playing golf, golf, golf, either produce zero economic stimulus, fewer jobs with them than without them (see the TCJA), cost more in deficit spending than the stimulus there were supposed to produce (again, see the TCJA) or, most notably throughout history, Great Repub Recessions, Skyrocketing Unemployment Rates and / or Massive Jobs Destruction. If for no other reason but that the cuts made by Repubs were so irrelevant to the stimulus required at the time, if any, IN ORDER to avert and avoid a looming economic storm. Again, that is the "stewardship" part.
Dem tax cuts do not produce those negative net results. By stark contrast, they have produced some of the greatest economic recoveries, expansions and job gains in history. That is very likely because Dem tax cuts are designed to actually recover, stimulate the economy and create jobs rather than to merely make some political donor class wealthier. FDR, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry would no more have proposed and passed a tax cut designed to produce the latter Repub result at a time of gathering economic storm clouds than any of them would have defied all expert warnings not to do something so stupid and dangerous as to defund and eliminate all of the Pandrmic Prevention and Response teams from those Chinese labs in 2018,2019 and lied about the resulting situation all through 2020 and beyond. Meaning they never would have considered such a thing for a single minute.
You then generally reply with some niceity about progressive tax rates, which is lovely to read and revisit from time to time but, alas, is not even the same topic as the totally accurate point I make about tax cuts made at a given moment in order to stimulate the economy, create jobs, generate revenue to pay down the debt, deficit and so on.
MarquisdeSade1
12-23-23, 04:11
Tucker Carlson, who declares that the people who represent Ron DeSantis "online are the nastiest, the stupidest, and the most zero-sum people I've ever seen in my life.
Coming from someone that worked at Fox for several years that's saying a lot!!
MarquisdeSade1
12-23-23, 04:15
"Intelligence as measured by IQ tests peaks around age 20 to 40 and then heads downward. But IQ is adjusted for age. By definition, the average IQ of 20 year olds would be 100. The average for 50 year olds is also 100, as is the average for 80 year olds. This is even though people get stupider and score lower on the tests as they get older.
Alan Kaufman, a researcher at Yale, calculates a "full scale" (global) IQ, where he removes the adjustment for age, and adds an adjustment for educational levels of people in different age groups:
https://metafact.io/factcheck_answers/2355
Based on Kaufman's research, the average full scale IQ for people 20 to 44 is about 100. Then it drops as follows:
45 to 54 years old - 97.
55 to 64 years old - 94.
65 to 69 years old - 90.
70 to 74 years old - 86.
75 years and older - 79.
So lets assume Joe Biden is of average intelligence. He graduated in the bottom part of his classes at the University of Delaware and Syracuse University Law School. Some believe he wouldn't have graduated from either if he weren't a skilled plagiarizer. Throughout his career he's seemed somewhat mentally challenged from time to time.
I think "average" is reasonable.
Biden is 81 years old. So let's go with the "full scale" IQ of 79 above, for people 75 and older.
Here's an IQ percentile converter.
https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/iq-percentile
If I plug in 79, I get 8%. In other words, if Biden is of average intelligence for your person 75+ years old, he'd be pretty close to the bottom, in the 8% percentile, for people 20 to 44 years old.
I plugged that into a couple of other converters and got about the same number.
Think about it another way. Human Rights Watch says "to be diagnosed as having mental retardation, a person must have an IQ below 70-75":
https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/ustat/ustat0301-01.htm
If Biden's IQ is 79, four points higher than the 75 cutoff, we have a president who'd be pretty close to a retard if he were in the 20 to 44 age group. How much sense does that make?
Trump's not much better. If elected next year, he'll be 82 when his term expires.
We need new blood! Yes, Ronald Reagan did a great job. But he was "only" 77 when he left office. ".
This is the kinda "new blood" that gives you wood w / o Viagra.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/12/new-york-gop-lawmakers-make-friendship-trip-to-china-with-group-that-malignly-influences-officials/
MarquisdeSade1
12-23-23, 04:28
"Yep. Wallgreens' management got busted on that BS by its own executive, its own data and police data:
Walgreens backpedals on theft concerns.
Jan. 9, 2023.
https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2023/01/09/walgreens-backpedals-on-theft".
They just axed the very expensive adult day care for their affirmative action female "CEO" that was destroying their company.
Faster than ET can type 10 paragraphs of utter BULLSHIT.
But here is another example of the horrible mismanagement ET whines about.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/over-1-million-worth-of-stolen-beauty-products-found-in-l-a-shop-warehouse/
Can you believe they can't even store their products in their own warehouses?
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/suspects-escape-with-16000-worth-of-sunglasses-from-orange-county-mall/
And here's another Holiday treat from Scumbag Joe and the California Democrats.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/homeless-infant-dies-on-bus-bench-near-lax/
Thanks a million Joe, Nancy, Gavin and Karen Bass.
That's quite an achievement! During the last 100 years, the Dow only hit records during the Biden, Trump, Obama, George W. Bush, Clinton, George H. W. Bush, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Hoover and Coolidge Administrations. ...You're so right! Absolutely...it is quite the achievement!
When you consider Repubs, right-wing media, MSM and a wide stream of naysayers and "know nothing" economic pundits, have all been saying the US economy, is either in a recession or will be in a recession for the last three (3) years...yes it is QUITE the achievement! .
I'm not Catholic.Absolution, brother Tiny, is well known by many denominations...even atheists!
As some ISGers, have anointed you the "Son of Satan", (as you, yourself have stated), it must be said, one can hardly blame YOU, for the "The Sins of the Father". Whichever right-wing political demagogue "sinner father", that might be?
OK Spidy, since you're convinced of the cause-and-effect relationship between the party of the president and stock market performance, I've got some great additional areas of research for you and Tooms to tackle: ... (...kkkk!) Let me stop you there! The only thing I'm "convinced" of in this particular instance, is your growing need to delve into Disney like "flights of fancy", "WHAT IFs...?" and "spurious correlations", to scratch some kind of conspiracy itch?
Let be honest here...I think this might be right up Elvis 2008 or MDS1's alley? I think you should punt, this line of "spurious correlations" STUFF, over to them. I'm sure they'd love to wallow in the mud with you on this one. (...kkkk!)
You're so right! Absolutely...it is quite the achievement!
When you consider Repubs, right-wing media, MSM and a wide stream of naysayers and "know nothing" economic pundits, have all been saying the US economy, is either in a recession or will be in a recession for the last three (3) years...yes it is QUITE the achievement! .All my life and as far back as records are kept for these things I have been hearing Repub economic "experts" and pols warning us against the eminent failure of the latest Dem economic plan to pull us out of this or that Great Repub Depression, this or that Great Repub Recession; "Oh, it will destroy the economy! It will destroy jobs! The stock market will Crash like never before! For the love of God, your family and the country, don't let this happen"!
And they have been wrong every time. Exceedingly, dramatically, historically wrong.
By stark contrast, Dems have warned that this or that Repub policy will only waste money, add significantly to the deficit and produce few if any jobs for the American people, might even drive the country into a serious downturn.
And WE have been right every time.
Sure, there might be a minor decline over the next year or so. There ought to be, the Fed has been working mightily for about two years to make it so and the Inflation Hysterics have been demanding it. But despite the fact that Dems take over when economic "expert" Repub policies and stewardship have Crashed the economy, wiped out millions of jobs and stocks are plunging in value, as was the case when Biden took over from economic "expert" Donald Trump but is NEVER the case when Repubs take over from economic "dummies" Dems, there is very little evidence of storm clouds gathering to produce anything resembling one of those several Great Repub Depressions / Great Repub Recessions. And if there is, Biden will not be too busy going fishing, riding ponies, clearing brush down at the ranch or playing golf, golf, golf to do the right thing to avert it.
Unless the country is foolish enough to place enough idiot Repubs in the way to block him from doing it.
MarquisdeSade1
12-27-23, 08:20
"The lawsuit that brought it to this point in Colorado was filed by Repubs and 1 Independent. No Dems.
The DNC and Joe Biden had nothing to do with it.
And it has all been 100% legal. Your boy disqualified himself and made himself Constitutionally ineligible to be a so-called potus or any other federal official again.
But, there is still hope for you. There are surely enough America-hating Repub hypocrites on the Supreme Court to once again reverse every States Rights principle their party has been blathering about since forever and carve out a "one time only" exception to what is clearly stated in the USA Constitution in order to help your boy get into office and continue to shit all over the economy and national security as The Worst So-Called President of All Time. The same as they did for Repub GW Bush, The Second Worst So-Called President of All Time. ".
Worst President of all time? Haaaa that's a 3 way tie Bubba Barry the Muslim Hussein and GW Bush, 24 of the worst years in the history of this country.
I would even throw Scumbag Joe in there but he isn't the President and never will be.
He was illegitimately installed by the Oligarchs and he will be dispatched accordingly, very soon.
MarquisdeSade1
12-27-23, 08:23
"All my life and as far back as records are kept for these things I have been hearing Repub economic "experts" and pols warning us against the eminent failure of the latest Dem economic plan to pull us out of this or that Great Repub Depression, this or that Great Repub Recession; "Oh, it will destroy the economy! It will destroy jobs! The stock market will Crash like never before! For the love of God, your family and the country, don't let this happen"!
And they have been wrong every time. Exceedingly, dramatically, historically wrong.
By stark contrast, Dems have warned that this or that Repub policy will only waste money, add significantly to the deficit and produce few if any jobs for the American people, might even drive the country into a serious downturn.
And WE have been right every time.
Sure, there might be a minor decline over the next year or so. There ought to be, the Fed has been working mightily for about two years to make it so and the Inflation Hysterics have been demanding it. But despite the fact that Dems take over when economic "expert" Repub policies and stewardship have Crashed the economy, wiped out millions of jobs and stocks are plunging in value, as was the case when Biden took over from economic "expert" Donald Trump but is NEVER the case when Repubs take over from economic "dummies" Dems, there is very little evidence of storm clouds gathering to produce anything resembling one of those several Great Repub Depressions / Great Repub Recessions. And if there is, Biden will not be too busy going fishing, riding ponies, clearing brush down at the ranch or playing golf, golf, golf to do the right thing to avert it.
Unless the country is foolish enough to place enough idiot Repubs in the way to block him from doing it. ".
He is a good friend of ET and Tiny12.
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2023/12/26/two-teens-stabbed-christmas-nyc-i-want-all-white-people-dead/?fbclid=IwAR1AjPrLudkWrhDRvaIA-NT4xkmAxckHMr5z_19c3hYfCCnELL2fXddwSZQ
"The lawsuit that brought it to this point in Colorado was filed by Repubs and 1 Independent. No Dems.
The DNC and Joe Biden had nothing to do with it.
And it has all been 100% legal. Your boy disqualified himself and made himself Constitutionally ineligible to be a so-called potus or any other federal official again.
But, there is still hope for you. There are surely enough America-hating Repub hypocrites on the Supreme Court to once again reverse every States Rights principle their party has been blathering about since forever and carve out a "one time only" exception to what is clearly stated in the USA Constitution in order to help your boy get into office and continue to shit all over the economy and national security as The Worst So-Called President of All Time. The same as they did for Repub GW Bush, The Second Worst So-Called President of All Time. ".
Worst President of all time? Haaaa that's a 3 way tie Bubba Barry the Muslim Hussein and GW Bush, 24 of the worst years in the history of this country.
I would even throw Scumbag Joe in there but he isn't the President and never will be.
He was illegitimately installed by the Oligarchs and he will be dispatched accordingly, very soon.As an overview of the Historic positive accomplishments of Biden and the Dems vs the Nothing But Disasters "accomplished" by Trump and the Repubs, this guy covered much of it very well. However, your side's beloved typical pro Repub Mainstream Media, Bob Woodward, Bill Maher et al still managed to pocket the direct connection between Trump and the Trump's Pandemic he created so well from the moment they were well aware of the facts of it back in early 2020 that even this guy forgot to include it as THE Trump "accomplishment" of his so-called presidency.
And a few other things:
Bidens 2024 chances are much stronger than people realize.
Two things have happened to Trump since 2020 that are going to make it very hard for him to win in 2024.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/biden-2024-election-polls-strong-rcna130507
Even Fux can't avoid getting it rubbed in its face anymore:
Fox News Host Throws Cold Water On Cohosts Trashing Biden Economy.
https://crooksandliars.com/2023/12/foxs-tarlov-throws-cold-water-cohosts
SHILLUE: Jessica where do we go from here? Twenty seconds to defend Joe Biden, the indefensible.
TARLOV: We go right back to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue because... we do have good economic news. But, the media doesn't want to cover it. He is correct on that. He shouldn't just say, you're looking at the wrong thing. They need to communicate this better.
But we've got revised third quarter GDP growth up to 4.9 percent. Unheard of. Consumer confidence went up to 14 percent. Largest jump in a decade. Inflation is running at an annualized rate below Powell's target, which is why he's talking about a rate cut. Personal income is up. Grocery and energy prices down last month.
And the Quinnipiac poll, this part of it is really important. They did a forward looking question. What you think 2024 is going to be like, 48 percent said the economy is going to be better, and 62 percent think that they are going to be better off in the next year. When is the election? November 2024. Democrats make your case. There is a case to be made.
Elvis 2008
12-29-23, 04:35
For all the Democratic posturing about how fair the 2020 vote, we were asked to trust the courts and how no judges took on a challenge to the 2020 election as proof it was fair. I never thought that. I thought after the 2000 Florida debacle that judges hated intervening in an election even in 2000 where they had to. I thought the court then made the right decision but it took its arrows for involving itself. My attitude was not to ask the court to decide the winner. If the Dems cheated well enough to be caught by the court, so be it. You cannot ask judges to decide who should be president.
So we have Colorado and now Maine and all the indictments and it is pretty clear that the judicial system is tilted dramatically in the Democrats favor. The argument that we could trust the judicial system not to pick a president with the 2020 election has been lost. My faith in the judicial system has been shot and the polls show I am not alone. What has happened with all the bogus legal charges and Trump gaining in popularity has the Democratic douches as a lost as to what to do.
Well, Robert Kagan of the Washington Post has his take and wrote.
Indicting Trump for trying to overthrow the government will prove akin to indicting Caesar for crossing the Rubicon, and just as effective. What limits his powers? The most obvious answer is the institutions of justice all of which Trump, by his very election, will have defied and revealed as impotent.
Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans threw every legitimate weapon against Trump and still failed. Will they turn instead to illegitimate, extralegal action?
It is utterly amazing how an asshole like this just blows off the Americans who vote for Trump as stupid. You fucking assholes sent a SWAT team to Trump's house to get paperwork and you thought people would be cheering you on versus looking at you with disgust? The Biden administration actions have Banana Republics like El Salvador and Argentina blasting the USA as corrupt. And now the solution is to kill Trump as opposed to beat him at the ballet box? Can you get more vile?
Matt Taibbi writes The Post racked up lots of these oopsies. It ran the damaging April 2017 leak about the FISA court surveillance of former Trump aide Carter Page, wrongly dubbed an "agent of a foreign power. " It botched the "Nunes memo" story, ran at least eight different wrong scare pieces about Russian bots, bit on "Bountygate," and helped build the oppo-crafted story of Trump as a Manchurian Candidate whose "warm views" of Russia "began in the 1980's, when the country was still part of the Soviet Union," who appeared to change the Republican Party platform to help Russia, and "tried to conspire" with Putin. It's hard to see anything but willful cooperation in a goofball intelligence-led caper to paralyze the Trump administration through a campaign of leaks and manufactured rumors that began before Trump's inauguration, before he even had a chance to do the bad thing.
And all this is greeted with whataboutism and so what and never mind by the Democratic douches. You want us to believe 2020 was honest after all this shit and now these fucking libtard judges telling citizens they cannot vote for whom they want?
We saw what it took with the border crisis. There was all this racist bullshit about the border and then the governor of Texas started sending immigrants to Illinois and New York and the libtard politicians cried like little babies for help. Who are the racists now?
And there is more for Taibbi, More revealing still were Kagan's passages about how easy it will be for dictator Trump to pursue enemies in modern imperial America, a state Kagan helped build, where the executive has almost limitless ability to thumb the scales of justice. I get why Kagan would be nervous he and his CIA-ogling pals like Bill Kristol and David Frum will likely be first in line to herded into the proverbial see-130 and pushed out over the Atlantic, should Trump and Steve Bannon go that route. Still, it's astonishing Kagan didn't know how much he gave away, in laying out fears of "tyranny. ".
When a guy is advocating for our votes not counting and advocating killing the leading candidate for president, shouldn't he be thrown out of plane? When you have an asshole like Kagan and his allies who have systemically destroyed the public faith in the supposedly objective judiciary, shouldn't he suffer his fate of not having an objective judiciary?
The thing that gets me with Democratic douches like Spidy and Tooms is their arrogance. The whole notion that voting for Trump is a vote for Democracy and against the deep state goes over their heads.
We saw what it took with the immigrant crisis. With Spidy and Tooms, I think the only way they get the folly of sending a SWAT team in to get paperwork is to have the same happen to them.
And they take their marching orders from guys at the Post and NYTimes. I bet it never occurred to them that guys like Kagan are really spewing out all this anti-Trump rhetoric is out of fear for their lives.
I never imagined that if a guy like Trump threw a guy like Kagan out a plane that it might be good for Democracy. That is how much damage Democratic douches have done to the judicial system.
MarquisdeSade1
12-29-23, 10:35
"As an overview of the Historic positive accomplishments of Biden and the Dems vs the Nothing But Disasters "accomplished" by Trump and the Repubs, this guy covered much of it very well. However, your side's beloved typical pro Repub Mainstream Media, Bob Woodward, Bill Maher et al still managed to pocket the direct connection between Trump and the Trump's Pandemic he created so well from the moment they were well aware of the facts of it back in early 2020 that even this guy forgot to include it as THE Trump "accomplishment" of his so-called presidency.
And a few other things:
Bidens 2024 chances are much stronger than people realize.
Two things have happened to Trump since 2020 that are going to make it very hard for him to win in 2024.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/biden-2024-election-polls-strong-rcna130507
Even Fux can't avoid getting it rubbed in its face anymore:
Fox News Host Throws Cold Water On Cohosts Trashing Biden Economy.
https://crooksandliars.com/2023/12/foxs-tarlov-throws-cold-water-cohosts".
https://amgreatness.com/2023/12/28/biden-administration-distributed-65-million-condoms-globally-as-part-of-climate-solutions/
Thanks a million Scumbag Joe.
I mean 65 million lololol please enjoy many many more are on their way!
Elvis 2008
12-29-23, 17:49
Thanks a million Scumbag Joe.
I mean 65 million lololol please enjoy many many more are on their way!He distributed 65 million condoms? Well, that may be his best accomplishment of all. Maybe that will win him my vote. / sarc.
Biden keeps bragging about the economy when in reality he (and Trump) printed up all this money and caused prices to double and now he wants slaps on the back for a higher stock market and wages.
Sorry, Joe, the reason the media is not slobbering all over you is that things are not that great. This is nothing like 84 or 85 under Reagan or 1999 under Clinton. It is not even anywhere near Trump in 2018/2019. The classic Democratic douche move is telling you how you feel. You should be grateful for this wonderful economy. Why should we be? You assholes were screaming from the rooftop to shut it down so Trump could not get re-elected during the scamdemic? No, thank you. You don't get credit for an improved economy after you destroyed a better one.
For all the Democratic posturing about how fair the 2020 vote, we were asked to trust the courts and how no judges took on a challenge to the 2020 election as proof it was fair. I never thought that. I thought after the 2000 Florida debacle that judges hated intervening in an election even in 2000 where they had to. I thought the court then made the right decision but it took its arrows for involving itself. My attitude was not to ask the court to decide the winner. If the Dems cheated well enough to be caught by the court, so be it. You cannot ask judges to decide who should be president.
So we have Colorado and now Maine and all the indictments and it is pretty clear that the judicial system is tilted dramatically in the Democrats favor. The argument that we could trust the judicial system not to pick a president with the 2020 election has been lost. My faith in the judicial system has been shot and the polls show I am not alone. What has happened with all the bogus legal charges and Trump gaining in popularity has the Democratic douches as a lost as to what to do.
Well, Robert Kagan of the Washington Post has his take and wrote.
Indicting Trump for trying to overthrow the government will prove akin to indicting Caesar for crossing the Rubicon, and just as effective. What limits his powers? The most obvious answer is the institutions of justice all of which Trump, by his very election, will have defied and revealed as impotent.It is clear that the Rule of Law and the USA Constitution is tilted dramatically against Trump, the Repubs who are too needy for those dumb Repub hillbilly political donations to call him out as the America-hating Traitor and Con Man he is and Repub voters slavishly devoted to replacing American democracy with an Authoritarian Dictatorship.
Sorry. Try to get over it.
Poor Babies:
From FedEx to airlines, companies are starting to lose their pricing power.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/29/companies-are-losing-their-pricing-power.html?__source=androidappshare
After years of strong consumer spending, some companies are now finding the limits of their pricing power.
Companies including FedEx, Target and General Mills have cut their sales outlooks, while airlines have slashed off-peak fares.
Faced with slipping demand, more price-sensitive consumers, easing inflation and better supply, some companies are looking for ways to grow profits without price hikes.As usual, Joe got it right; telling companies to stop GOUGING American consumers. Meanwhile, the lazy Inflation Hysterics who blamed Biden and the Dems' Historically Successful Recovery Legislation for the Inflation caused by Trump's Pandemic's Supply-Chain Destruction and the plain old Corporate Greed that followed and went along for the ride during that Recovery got it wrong.
Thanks, Joe.
It turns out Economic Policy and Stewardship can actually drive the cost of essential products down dramatically WITHOUT plunging us into another Great Repub Crash and Depression / Recession along with Skyrocketing Unemployment Rates and Wiping Out Millions Upon Millions of American Jobs.
Amazing, isn't it?
As long as it is the kind of policy proposed and passed by Dems along with typically effective Dem stewardship and most definitely NOT typical crap Repub policy and stewardship:
Oil poised to end the year 10% lower in first annual decline since 2020.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/29/oil-prices-to-end-year-10percent-lower-first-annual-decline-since-2020.html?__source=androidappshare
Otherwise promoted by typically pro Repub Mainstream Media as "not handling the economy as well as Republicans. ".
Lolol.
MarquisdeSade1
12-29-23, 21:14
"It is clear that the Rule of Law and the USA Constitution is tilted dramatically against Trump, the Repubs who are too needy for those dumb Repub hillbilly political donations to call him out as the America-hating Traitor and Con Man he is and Repub voters slavishly devoted to replacing American democracy with an Authoritarian Dictatorship.
Sorry. Try to get over it. ".
I will take a Putin style authoritarian govt over Scumbag Joes vision for America (destroy it as fast as possible).
I've been to Russia, you can eat off the sidewalks they are so sparkling clean.
Hey BTW haven't you been living under a Military Junta for at least a decade? WTF gives?
Is that why you write about the USA instead of Siam?
If you even write three or four words about them.
They will kick your door in whilst you are fucking sum poor drunk bargirl silly and take you somewhere and torture you for a couple years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWyhZHr-wpI
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/california-woman-claims-man-poured-bucket-of-hot-feces-on-her-head-i-have-some-really-bad-ptsd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwlIAjcYypA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2k7KQ5L5Jg
Thanks a million Scumbag Joe and Xi, and Tiny12 and ET for your vote of support.
MarquisdeSade1
12-29-23, 21:50
"For all the Democratic posturing about how fair the 2020 vote, we were asked to trust the courts and how no judges took on a challenge to the 2020 election as proof it was fair. I never thought that. I thought after the 2000 Florida debacle that judges hated intervening in an election even in 2000 where they had to. I thought the court then made the right decision but it took its arrows for involving itself. My attitude was not to ask the court to decide the winner. If the Dems cheated well enough to be caught by the court, so be it. You cannot ask judges to decide who should be president.
So we have Colorado and now Maine and all the indictments and it is pretty clear that the judicial system is tilted dramatically in the Democrats favor. The argument that we could trust the judicial system not to pick a president with the 2020 election has been lost. My faith in the judicial system has been shot and the polls show I am not alone. What has happened with all the bogus legal charges and Trump gaining in popularity has the Democratic douches as a lost as to what to do.
Well, Robert Kagan of the Washington Post has his take and wrote.
Indicting Trump for trying to overthrow the government will prove akin to indicting Caesar for crossing the Rubicon, and just as effective. What limits his powers? The most obvious answer is the institutions of justice all of which Trump, by his very election, will have defied and revealed as impotent.
Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans threw every legitimate weapon against Trump and still failed. Will they turn instead to illegitimate, extralegal action?
It is utterly amazing how an asshole like this just blows off the Americans who vote for Trump as stupid. You fucking assholes sent a SWAT team to Trump's house to get paperwork and you thought people would be cheering you on versus looking at you with disgust? The Biden administration actions have Banana Republics like El Salvador and Argentina blasting the USA as corrupt. And now the solution is to kill Trump as opposed to beat him at the ballet box? Can you get more vile?
Matt Taibbi writes The Post racked up lots of these oopsies. It ran the damaging April 2017 leak about the FISA court surveillance of former Trump aide Carter Page, wrongly dubbed an "agent of a foreign power. " It botched the "Nunes memo" story, ran at least eight different wrong scare pieces about Russian bots, bit on "Bountygate," and helped build the oppo-crafted story of Trump as a Manchurian Candidate whose "warm views" of Russia "began in the 1980's, when the country was still part of the Soviet Union," who appeared to change the Republican Party platform to help Russia, and "tried to conspire" with Putin. It's hard to see anything but willful cooperation in a goofball intelligence-led caper to paralyze the Trump administration through a campaign of leaks and manufactured rumors that began before Trump's inauguration, before he even had a chance to do the bad thing.
And all this is greeted with whataboutism and so what and never mind by the Democratic douches. You want us to believe 2020 was honest after all this shit and now these fucking libtard judges telling citizens they cannot vote for whom they want?
We saw what it took with the border crisis. There was all this racist bullshit about the border and then the governor of Texas started sending immigrants to Illinois and New York and the libtard politicians cried like little babies for help. Who are the racists now?
And there is more for Taibbi, More revealing still were Kagan's passages about how easy it will be for dictator Trump to pursue enemies in modern imperial America, a state Kagan helped build, where the executive has almost limitless ability to thumb the scales of justice. I get why Kagan would be nervous he and his CIA-ogling pals like Bill Kristol and David Frum will likely be first in line to herded into the proverbial see-130 and pushed out over the Atlantic, should Trump and Steve Bannon go that route. Still, it's astonishing Kagan didn't know how much he gave away, in laying out fears of "tyranny. ".
When a guy is advocating for our votes not counting and advocating killing the leading candidate for president, shouldn't he be thrown out of plane? When you have an asshole like Kagan and his allies who have systemically destroyed the public faith in the supposedly objective judiciary, shouldn't he suffer his fate of not having an objective judiciary?
The thing that gets me with Democratic douches like Spidy and Tooms is their arrogance. The whole notion that voting for Trump is a vote for Democracy and against the deep state goes over their heads.
We saw what it took with the immigrant crisis. With Spidy and Tooms, I think the only way they get the folly of sending a SWAT team in to get paperwork is to have the same happen to them.
And they take their marching orders from guys at the Post and NYTimes. I bet it never occurred to them that guys like Kagan are really spewing out all this anti-Trump rhetoric is out of fear for their lives.
I never imagined that if a guy like Trump threw a guy like Kagan out a plane that it might be good for Democracy. That is how much damage Democratic douches have done to the judicial system. ".
Don't use C130's, helicopters bro, Pinochet style!!
First up Kagan and then the rest of his ilk.
BTW do you know who owns that toilet paper aka WAPO? Bozo.
He and his friends Like Ken Griffin, Zuckerturd and Bloomturd.
Did you know Zuckerturd speaks Mandarin fluently and is married to a CCP commie.
Just curious, how many FBI agents raided his empty home for some "paperwork".
50? 100?
The last 3 years of hell have been like a sequel of the movie "Idiocracy".
The first movie was set with Barry the Muslim Hussein.
With Scumbag Joe and the Junkie taking up the sequel!!
MarquisdeSade1
12-29-23, 22:01
"For all the Democratic posturing about how fair the 2020 vote, we were asked to trust the courts and how no judges took on a challenge to the 2020 election as proof it was fair. I never thought that. I thought after the 2000 Florida debacle that judges hated intervening in an election even in 2000 where they had to. I thought the court then made the right decision but it took its arrows for involving itself. My attitude was not to ask the court to decide the winner. If the Dems cheated well enough to be caught by the court, so be it. You cannot ask judges to decide who should be president.
So we have Colorado and now Maine and all the indictments and it is pretty clear that the judicial system is tilted dramatically in the Democrats favor. The argument that we could trust the judicial system not to pick a president with the 2020 election has been lost. My faith in the judicial system has been shot and the polls show I am not alone. What has happened with all the bogus legal charges and Trump gaining in popularity has the Democratic douches as a lost as to what to do.
Well, Robert Kagan of the Washington Post has his take and wrote.
Indicting Trump for trying to overthrow the government will prove akin to indicting Caesar for crossing the Rubicon, and just as effective. What limits his powers? The most obvious answer is the institutions of justice all of which Trump, by his very election, will have defied and revealed as impotent.
Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans threw every legitimate weapon against Trump and still failed. Will they turn instead to illegitimate, extralegal action?
It is utterly amazing how an asshole like this just blows off the Americans who vote for Trump as stupid. You fucking assholes sent a SWAT team to Trump's house to get paperwork and you thought people would be cheering you on versus looking at you with disgust? The Biden administration actions have Banana Republics like El Salvador and Argentina blasting the USA as corrupt. And now the solution is to kill Trump as opposed to beat him at the ballet box? Can you get more vile?
Matt Taibbi writes The Post racked up lots of these oopsies. It ran the damaging April 2017 leak about the FISA court surveillance of former Trump aide Carter Page, wrongly dubbed an "agent of a foreign power. " It botched the "Nunes memo" story, ran at least eight different wrong scare pieces about Russian bots, bit on "Bountygate," and helped build the oppo-crafted story of Trump as a Manchurian Candidate whose "warm views" of Russia "began in the 1980's, when the country was still part of the Soviet Union," who appeared to change the Republican Party platform to help Russia, and "tried to conspire" with Putin. It's hard to see anything but willful cooperation in a goofball intelligence-led caper to paralyze the Trump administration through a campaign of leaks and manufactured rumors that began before Trump's inauguration, before he even had a chance to do the bad thing.
And all this is greeted with whataboutism and so what and never mind by the Democratic douches. You want us to believe 2020 was honest after all this shit and now these fucking libtard judges telling citizens they cannot vote for whom they want?
We saw what it took with the border crisis. There was all this racist bullshit about the border and then the governor of Texas started sending immigrants to Illinois and New York and the libtard politicians cried like little babies for help. Who are the racists now?
And there is more for Taibbi, More revealing still were Kagan's passages about how easy it will be for dictator Trump to pursue enemies in modern imperial America, a state Kagan helped build, where the executive has almost limitless ability to thumb the scales of justice. I get why Kagan would be nervous he and his CIA-ogling pals like Bill Kristol and David Frum will likely be first in line to herded into the proverbial see-130 and pushed out over the Atlantic, should Trump and Steve Bannon go that route. Still, it's astonishing Kagan didn't know how much he gave away, in laying out fears of "tyranny. ".
When a guy is advocating for our votes not counting and advocating killing the leading candidate for president, shouldn't he be thrown out of plane? When you have an asshole like Kagan and his allies who have systemically destroyed the public faith in the supposedly objective judiciary, shouldn't he suffer his fate of not having an objective judiciary?
The thing that gets me with Democratic douches like Spidy and Tooms is their arrogance. The whole notion that voting for Trump is a vote for Democracy and against the deep state goes over their heads.
We saw what it took with the immigrant crisis. With Spidy and Tooms, I think the only way they get the folly of sending a SWAT team in to get paperwork is to have the same happen to them.
And they take their marching orders from guys at the Post and NYTimes. I bet it never occurred to them that guys like Kagan are really spewing out all this anti-Trump rhetoric is out of fear for their lives.
I never imagined that if a guy like Trump threw a guy like Kagan out a plane that it might be good for Democracy. That is how much damage Democratic douches have done to the judicial system. ".
The smart money is on the red team with all the guns.
https://amgreatness.com/2023/12/28/barring-trump-from-ballots-is-a-recipe-for-violence/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_ownership
MarquisdeSade1
12-30-23, 06:43
"As an overview of the Historic positive accomplishments of Biden and the Dems vs the Nothing But Disasters "accomplished" by Trump and the Repubs, this guy covered much of it very well. However, your side's beloved typical pro Repub Mainstream Media, Bob Woodward, Bill Maher et al still managed to pocket the direct connection between Trump and the Trump's Pandemic he created so well from the moment they were well aware of the facts of it back in early 2020 that even this guy forgot to include it as THE Trump "accomplishment" of his so-called presidency.
And a few other things:
Bidens 2024 chances are much stronger than people realize.
Two things have happened to Trump since 2020 that are going to make it very hard for him to win in 2024.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/biden-2024-election-polls-strong-rcna130507
Even Fux can't avoid getting it rubbed in its face anymore:
Fox News Host Throws Cold Water On Cohosts Trashing Biden Economy.
https://crooksandliars.com/2023/12/foxs-tarlov-throws-cold-water-cohosts.
https://amgreatness.com/2023/12/28/biden-administration-distributed-65-million-condoms-globally-as-part-of-climate-solutions/
Thanks a million Scumbag Joe.
I mean 65 million lololol please enjoy many many more are on their way!
Lololol Scumbag Joe doesn't want you or anyone else having sex for pleasure, as a matter of fact if he could.
He would lock your ass up and throw away the key for travelling to the 3rd world.
To defile young peasant girls, you are a monster in the eyes of the Scumbag Biden cabal.
Only the First Junkie is allowed to do what you do without consequence.
But don't worry he will be flooding every establishment in the world with free condoms (espec lower SUK) LMAO.
And I'm sure there will be sum USD funding attached so they make it mandatory that they are used with everyone that cums thru, especially that pervert known as ET.
Scumbag Joe and the Junkie thank you for your vote SUCKER!!
"It is clear that the Rule of Law and the USA Constitution is tilted dramatically against Trump, the Repubs who are too needy for those dumb Repub hillbilly political donations to call him out as the America-hating Traitor and Con Man he is and Repub voters slavishly devoted to replacing American democracy with an Authoritarian Dictatorship.
Sorry. Try to get over it. ".
I will take a Putin style authoritarian govt over Scumbag Joes vision for America (destroy it as fast as possible).
I've been to Russia, you can eat off the sidewalks they are so sparkling clean.
Hey BTW haven't you been living under a Military Junta for at least a decade? WTF gives?
Is that why you write about the USA instead of Siam?
If you even write three or four words about them.
They will kick your door in whilst you are fucking sum poor drunk bargirl silly and take you somewhere and torture you for a couple years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWyhZHr-wpI
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/california-woman-claims-man-poured-bucket-of-hot-feces-on-her-head-i-have-some-really-bad-ptsd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwlIAjcYypA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2k7KQ5L5Jg
Thanks a million Scumbag Joe and Xi, and Tiny12 and ET for your vote of support.It isn't even close.
U.S. News Best Countries.
2023 Rankings.
The overall ranking of Best Countries measure global performance on a variety of metrics.
Switzerland is the best country in the world for 2023.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings
USA is #5.
Thailand is #29.
Russia is #37.
John Clayton
12-30-23, 17:32
It isn't even close.
U.S. News Best Countries.
2023 Rankings.
The overall ranking of Best Countries measure global performance on a variety of metrics.
Switzerland is the best country in the world for 2023.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings
USA is #5.
Thailand is #29.
Russia is #37.MarquisdeSade1 is a troll, paid and controlled by the Kremlin. It is pointless to try reply with facts. I am genuinely curious about him, and especially how much and how he is paid. Is he paid per post? Per word? How does he receive his payments?
He distributed 65 million condoms? Well, that may be his best accomplishment of all. Maybe that will win him my vote. / sarc.
Biden keeps bragging about the economy when in reality he (and Trump) printed up all this money and caused prices to double and now he wants slaps on the back for a higher stock market and wages.
Sorry, Joe, the reason the media is not slobbering all over you is that things are not that great. This is nothing like 84 or 85 under Reagan or 1999 under Clinton. It is not even anywhere near Trump in 2018/2019. The classic Democratic douche move is telling you how you feel. You should be grateful for this wonderful economy. Why should we be? You assholes were screaming from the rooftop to shut it down so Trump could not get re-elected during the scamdemic? No, thank you. You don't get credit for an improved economy after you destroyed a better one.Yes, Biden gave away free condoms and other forms of birth control and STD prevention throughout the world. Before the Repub SCOTUS and ChristoFacist Squeaker of the House Mike find a way to outlaw birth control and Sex For Pleasure.
That is quite a contrast in Economic and National Security policy and stewardship vs the former guy, isn't it?
Trump says China should have told us about coronavirus.
He removed the official meant to do that.
A US epidemiologist was embedded with the Chinese CDC.
The Trump administration discontinued the position.
Mar. 23, 2020
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/23/21190713/coronavirus-trump-china-cdc-embed-quick
President Donald Trump loves to blame China for the coronavirus pandemic, but new information surfaced over the weekend that the administration eliminated a position last July that potentially could have helped the US get an earlier jump on a response to the crisis, suggesting the president may need to place blame a little closer to home.
The Trump administration told the United States embed at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) that the position would be defunded, causing her to leave her post in July 2019, according to a report from Reuterss Marisa Taylor. The embed helped train Chinese public health experts and served in part as a liaison between Chinese officials and their counterparts in the US..Bob Woodward Was Stunned By What Trump Told Young Son Barron About Coronavirus.
Oct. 25, 2022
https://news.yahoo.com/bob-woodward-stunned-trump-told-091902598.html
Talking to Woodward on March 19, 2020, Trump said Barron, then 13, asked what was going on and he answered: I said, it came out of China, Barron. Pure and simple. It came out of China. And it shouldve been stopped. And to be honest with you, Barron, they shouldve let it be known it was a problem two months earlier ... the world wouldnt have a problem. We could have stopped it easily.
MarquisdeSade1 is a troll, paid and controlled by the Kremlin. It is pointless to try reply with facts. I am genuinely curious about him, and especially how much and how he is paid. Is he paid per post? Per word? How does he receive his payments?He is paid per the anti-American lie he tells. Same as Trump. And maybe the same amount as they pay Trump too since Trump needs the money so badly he is probably willing to accept anything.
It wouldn't have to be much. I mean, these guys are happy to eat off the sidewalks of Russia, one of the worst countries on the planet.
He distributed 65 million condoms? Well, that may be his best accomplishment of all. Maybe that will win him my vote. / sarc.
Biden keeps bragging about the economy when in reality he (and Trump) printed up all this money and caused prices to double and now he wants slaps on the back for a higher stock market and wages.
Sorry, Joe, the reason the media is not slobbering all over you is that things are not that great. This is nothing like 84 or 85 under Reagan or 1999 under Clinton. It is not even anywhere near Trump in 2018/2019. The classic Democratic douche move is telling you how you feel. You should be grateful for this wonderful economy. Why should we be? You assholes were screaming from the rooftop to shut it down so Trump could not get re-elected during the scamdemic? No, thank you. You don't get credit for an improved economy after you destroyed a better one.Reagan and Trump both inherited strong, stable and growing economies from their Dem predecessors and then proceeded to shit all over them, skyrocketing the deficit in order to "buy" either weak jobs growth or, in Trump's case, millions fewer jobs when he left office than when he started. All due to his crap economic policies, decisions and whatever the fuck that was one might call his "stewardship" of the economy and National Security.
Clinton, Obama and, especially Biden all took over having been handed something between a shitty economy and the Worst USA Economic Conditions of All Time.
No Repub taking over in such a situation would have had the slightest clue what to do to get it back on track this spectacularly well and this fast. That isn't what they do. Ever.
They would not have known WHAT to do, HOW to do it and, most importantly, would not have had a moment's interest in DOING it.
None.
Least of all Total Numbskull America-Hating Trump.
Repubs only know how to produce and hand off Great Depressions, Great Recessions, Skyrocketing Unemployment Rates, Massive Jobs Destruction, Skyrocketing Deficits with nothing to show for it. The only thing the "best" of them in the past hundred years handed off to the incoming Dem was one of the most atrocious jobs creation records in history and / or a damn weak one considering he tripled the National Debt to squeak that out. The rest were total disasters.
LOL. It cracks me up when a Repub economic ignoramus cites and judges ANY stage of a Dem Recovery from still another Great Repub Crash as though the Dem and the Repub both started their terms on equal grounds and conditions. Lolol. My God, how ignorant of blatantly obvious reality and easily researched historical data can you be.
MarquisdeSade1
12-30-23, 21:24
"he is paid per the anti-American lie he tells. Same as Trump. And maybe the same amount as they pay Trump too since Trump needs the money so badly he is probably willing to accept anything.
It wouldn't have to be much. I mean, these guys are happy to eat off the sidewalks of Russia, one of the worst countries on the planet. ".
I remember when I was showing you some pics of putas when I flew to BKK from Moscow and you said if you could get pussy like that you would move there LMAO.
Here are a few pics from outside the Marriott I stayed in, in Moscow near the Bolshoi.
And a few from Soi 4 outside Nana, see if you can pick them out LMAO they are all from the same month.
I've been around much of the world and nothing compares to Moscow or STB with their sheer beauty.
I saw ZERO criminals or filthy homeless junkies etc.
Elvis 2008
12-30-23, 21:29
It is clear that the Rule of Law and the USA Constitution is tilted dramatically against TrumpI will let Taibbi take the first part:
Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows decided Thursday to remove Donald Trump from the state's presidential ballot.
Jared Golden, a Democratic congressman from Lewiston who voted to impeach Trump over the January 6th riots, quickly issued a statement:
We are a nation of laws, therefore until he is actually found guilty of the crime of insurrection, he should be allowed on the ballot.
Normally campaign season is a period of heightened engagement, as people scour the Internet to research even the most inane questions, knowing that at the end of the process, they get to cast votes on them. It's why news companies tend to fatten up in election years, like Grizzlies during salmon runs.
People are absorbed by dramas in which they feel themselves to be participants.
This year the public is being forced to research questions in which they have no say. We all understand now that there's a disqualification clause in the 14th Amendment. We also understand that this clause seems to have been written with deliberate vagueness. I'm no lawyer, but I doubt the 14th Amendment was designed to empower unelected state officials to unilaterally strike major party frontrunners from the presidential ballot.
F it was, that's a shock. I must have missed that in AP Insane Legal Loopholes class.
Is there any way this ends well? It feels harder and harder to imagine.
End of link.
Here we have Tooms going off on this bullshit line about "rule of law" while even a Democratic Congressman from man shoots it down. How many politicians have had the 14th amendment used to disqualify them from seeking office Tooms? I will give you a minute.
Are you ready? The answer is none.
And how many people did the "insurrections" murder on January 6? That would be none too.
Yes, you are going to stupidly argue that the same men who passed the 14th amendment, men who did not allow women to vote, passed this amendment to stop the most popular candidate for president from being on the ballot? If it were a Democrat disqualified, you would be screaming bloody murder.
Sorry. Try to get over it.Oh, it is just me? Oh really? Every time you Democratic douches pull a stunt like this Trump's numbers go up. I wondered what it was going to take for Democrats to finally say, "Okay, this is enough. " Maybe this is enough.
The Democrats are playing a game here with the Supreme Court just like they did with the abortion issue. They are asking the Supreme Court to take on this issue so the court can say this is ridiculous and overturn it. That way Democrats get to * about how unfair the Supreme Court is again. But what if they do not take this case on and Trump wins?
You have already seen what is happening with the polls. You think Matt Taibbi, who is objective as they come and you stupidly call a bothsider, saying Trump might start throwing people off a plane is an exaggeration? IMO he is talking to Democrats and telling them to cool it. Because if Trump is elected president, he could legally do this, and it is the fault of Democrats. You dumb fucks brought machine guns to an ex-president's house.
You Democratic douches have determined we do not need trials anymore, and these judges and this Secretary of State are IMO guilty of being a threat to our democracy. If others feel like I do, and they do, these douches should be put down for treason. If Trump wanted to kill these four judges and this Secretary of State for treason without a trial, I am fine with that.
These five idiotic Democratic douches are literally playing chicken with the Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court strikes down their decision, no one will care what happens to them, but if they don't? Those people better live the country and quick.
MarquisdeSade1
12-30-23, 21:31
"he is paid per the anti-American lie he tells. Same as Trump. And maybe the same amount as they pay Trump too since Trump needs the money so badly he is probably willing to accept anything.
It wouldn't have to be much. I mean, these guys are happy to eat off the sidewalks of Russia, one of the worst countries on the planet. ".
Elvis 2008
12-30-23, 21:32
MarquisdeSade1 is a troll, paid and controlled by the Kremlin. It is pointless to try reply with facts. I am genuinely curious about him, and especially how much and how he is paid. Is he paid per post? Per word? How does he receive his payments?Oh Mr. Vaccine is back. Hey, JC, how is that Pfizer stock doing? LOL. I have gotten four questions for you. How many Covid vaccines have you had? Double digits now?
And on Ukraine, how many billions more in aid should we give them? Do you have a number?
Everyone you disagree with is a paid troll.
MarquisdeSade1
12-30-23, 21:40
"MarquisdeSade1 is a troll, paid and controlled by the Kremlin. It is pointless to try reply with facts. I am genuinely curious about him, and especially how much and how he is paid. Is he paid per post? Per word? How does he receive his payments?
I will gladly accept the title of troll for Putin and the Kremlin as long as you.
Disclose what you get paid for licking Rachel Maddows dirty anus clean each time she shits along with Klaus Schwabs and Xi Jingpings.
Next time any real men are in Moscow, try this place out.
You can enjoy some exquisite caviar whilst relaxing for the day, you won't regret it!!
https://msk.sanduny.ru/ru
MarquisdeSade1
12-30-23, 21:57
"It isn't even close.
USA News Best Countries.
2023 Rankings.
The overall ranking of Best Countries measure global performance on a variety of metrics.
Switzerland is the best country in the world for 2023.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings
USA is #5.
Thailand is #29.
Russia is #37. ".
The WEF feminists?
Real men (MAGA men) love Russia Hungary Turkey, much of Eastern Europe and much of the Middle East.
It isn't even close.
U.S. News Best Countries.
2023 Rankings.
The overall ranking of Best Countries measure global performance on a variety of metrics.
Switzerland is the best country in the world for 2023.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings
... Russia is #37.Really? I wonder who paid for that survey.
The 37th best country in the world just gave a 4-year sentence to a teen for "treason" he allegedly committed while being a minor. His mother was detained this spring for yelling obscenities in the recruitment office.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-teenager-treason-prison/32753694.html
Fuck USNEWS and their rankings.
"MarquisdeSade1 is a troll, paid and controlled by the Kremlin. It is pointless to try reply with facts. I am genuinely curious about him, and especially how much and how he is paid. Is he paid per post? Per word? How does he receive his payments?
I will gladly accept the title of troll for Putin and the Kremlin as long as you.
Disclose what you get paid for licking Rachel Maddows dirty anus clean each time she shits along with Klaus Schwabs and Xi Jingpings.
Next time any real men are in Moscow, try this place out.
You can enjoy some exquisite caviar whilst relaxing for the day, you won't regret it!!
https://msk.sanduny.ru/ruWeren't those the Russian hos where you said the good looking ones would not agree to Real Sex / BBBJ+CIP no matter how poor their country was?
Lucky you, they might be getting free condoms from Biden any minute now. LOL.
I will let Taibbi take the first part:
Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows decided Thursday to remove Donald Trump from the state's presidential ballot.
Jared Golden, a Democratic congressman from Lewiston who voted to impeach Trump over the January 6th riots, quickly issued a statement:
We are a nation of laws, therefore until he is actually found guilty of the crime of insurrection, he should be allowed on the ballot.
Normally campaign season is a period of heightened engagement, as people scour the Internet to research even the most inane questions, knowing that at the end of the process, they get to cast votes on them. It's why news companies tend to fatten up in election years, like Grizzlies during salmon runs.
People are absorbed by dramas in which they feel themselves to be participants.
This year the public is being forced to research questions in which they have no say. We all understand now that there's a disqualification clause in the 14th Amendment. We also understand that this clause seems to have been written with deliberate vagueness. I'm no lawyer, but I doubt the 14th Amendment was designed to empower unelected state officials to unilaterally strike major party frontrunners from the presidential ballot.
F it was, that's a shock. I must have missed that in AP Insane Legal Loopholes class.
Is there any way this ends well? It feels harder and harder to imagine.
End of link.
Here we have Tooms going off on this bullshit line about "rule of law" while even a Democratic Congressman from man shoots it down. How many politicians have had the 14th amendment used to disqualify them from seeking office Tooms? I will give you a minute.
Are you ready? The answer is none.
And how many people did the "insurrections" murder on January 6? That would be none too.
Yes, you are going to stupidly argue that the same men who passed the 14th amendment, men who did not allow women to vote, passed this amendment to stop the most popular candidate for president from being on the ballot? If it were a Democrat disqualified, you would be screaming bloody murder.
Oh, it is just me? Oh really? Every time you Democratic douches pull a stunt like this Trump's numbers go up. I wondered what it was going to take for Democrats to finally say, "Okay, this is enough. " Maybe this is enough.
The Democrats are playing a game here with the Supreme Court just like they did with the abortion issue. They are asking the Supreme Court to take on this issue so the court can say this is ridiculous and overturn it. That way Democrats get to * about how unfair the Supreme Court is again. But what if they do not take this case on and Trump wins?
You have already seen what is happening with the polls. You think Matt Taibbi, who is objective as they come and you stupidly call a bothsider, saying Trump might start throwing people off a plane is an exaggeration? IMO he is talking to Democrats and telling them to cool it. Because if Trump is elected president, he could legally do this, and it is the fault of Democrats. You dumb fucks brought machine guns to an ex-president's house.
You Democratic douches have determined we do not need trials anymore, and these judges and this Secretary of State are IMO guilty of being a threat to our democracy. If others feel like I do, and they do, these douches should be put down for treason. If Trump wanted to kill these four judges and this Secretary of State for treason without a trial, I am fine with that.
These five idiotic Democratic douches are literally playing chicken with the Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court strikes down their decision, no one will care what happens to them, but if they don't? Those people better live the country and quick.Here is the text of the USA Constitutional Law at issue:
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/amendment-14/section-3/
Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.See that "having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States" thingy?
Yeah, that means we are talking about people like Trump who have proven their solemn word under oath wasn't worth shit previously, isn't worth shit now or ever and therefore it doesn't matter if they promise to never, ever, ever do it again or are pardoned for their violation of that oath by a future Repub criminal so-called potus and so on. They are disqualified for holding office again. Find a different line of work. Play golf the rest of your life on dumb Repub hillbilly donations. Whatever. But you don't get to stand there again and make a mockery of the Law and the Constitution by taking an Oath in order to hold office again.
Now, see that "or given aid or comfort to enemies thereof" thingy?
Yeah, that means in reality there is a whole shitload of Repub Senators, members of the House, etc, including ChristoFascist Squeaker of the Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Pink Tinkle House Mike who are ALSO disqualified from ever holding office again. So be careful or those charged with enforcing those Constitutional principles and laws might start expanding the enforcement of that one beyond just Numbskull Trump. As they should.
However, as I pointed out previously, there are certainly enough traitorous Repub justices on the Supreme Court to carve out another extra magical exception to their principles and established precedent to see to it that Trump can get back in there to produce more disastrous Economic and National Security results as they did for GW Bush. So, you and Taibbi will have a very good shot at enjoying another one of those "once in 100 years Historic Disasters" happening as they do only under Repubs and never under Dems again ASAP.
MarquisdeSade1
12-31-23, 07:34
"I will let Taibbi take the first part:
Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows decided Thursday to remove Donald Trump from the state's presidential ballot.
Jared Golden, a Democratic congressman from Lewiston who voted to impeach Trump over the January 6th riots, quickly issued a statement:
We are a nation of laws, therefore until he is actually found guilty of the crime of insurrection, he should be allowed on the ballot.
Normally campaign season is a period of heightened engagement, as people scour the Internet to research even the most inane questions, knowing that at the end of the process, they get to cast votes on them. It's why news companies tend to fatten up in election years, like Grizzlies during salmon runs.
People are absorbed by dramas in which they feel themselves to be participants.
This year the public is being forced to research questions in which they have no say. We all understand now that there's a disqualification clause in the 14th Amendment. We also understand that this clause seems to have been written with deliberate vagueness. I'm no lawyer, but I doubt the 14th Amendment was designed to empower unelected state officials to unilaterally strike major party frontrunners from the presidential ballot.
F it was, that's a shock. I must have missed that in AP Insane Legal Loopholes class.
Is there any way this ends well? It feels harder and harder to imagine.
End of link.
Here we have Tooms going off on this bullshit line about "rule of law" while even a Democratic Congressman from man shoots it down. How many politicians have had the 14th amendment used to disqualify them from seeking office Tooms? I will give you a minute.
Are you ready? The answer is none.
And how many people did the "insurrections" murder on January 6? That would be none too.
Yes, you are going to stupidly argue that the same men who passed the 14th amendment, men who did not allow women to vote, passed this amendment to stop the most popular candidate for president from being on the ballot? If it were a Democrat disqualified, you would be screaming bloody murder.
Oh, it is just me? Oh really? Every time you Democratic douches pull a stunt like this Trump's numbers go up. I wondered what it was going to take for Democrats to finally say, "Okay, this is enough. " Maybe this is enough.
The Democrats are playing a game here with the Supreme Court just like they did with the abortion issue. They are asking the Supreme Court to take on this issue so the court can say this is ridiculous and overturn it. That way Democrats get to * about how unfair the Supreme Court is again. But what if they do not take this case on and Trump wins?
You have already seen what is happening with the polls. You think Matt Taibbi, who is objective as they come and you stupidly call a bothsider, saying Trump might start throwing people off a plane is an exaggeration? IMO he is talking to Democrats and telling them to cool it. Because if Trump is elected president, he could legally do this, and it is the fault of Democrats. You dumb fucks brought machine guns to an ex-president's house.
You Democratic douches have determined we do not need trials anymore, and these judges and this Secretary of State are IMO guilty of being a threat to our democracy. If others feel like I do, and they do, these douches should be put down for treason. If Trump wanted to kill these four judges and this Secretary of State for treason without a trial, I am fine with that.
These five idiotic Democratic douches are literally playing chicken with the Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court strikes down their decision, no one will care what happens to them, but if they don't? Those people better live the country and quick. ".
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1740935743865016350?cxt=HBwWvMDW3bn1hakwAAAA&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email
MarquisdeSade1
12-31-23, 08:30
"he is paid per the anti-American lie he tells. Same as Trump. And maybe the same amount as they pay Trump too since Trump needs the money so badly he is probably willing to accept anything.
It wouldn't have to be much. I mean, these guys are happy to eat off the sidewalks of Russia, one of the worst countries on the planet. ".
I remember when I was showing you some pics of putas when I flew to BKK from Moscow and you said if you could get pussy like that you would move there LMAO.
Here are a few pics from outside the Marriott I stayed in, in Moscow near the Bolshoi.
And a few from Soi 4 outside Nana, see if you can pick them out LMAO they are all from the same month.
I've been around much of the world and nothing compares to Moscow or STB with their sheer beauty.
I saw ZERO criminals or filthy homeless junkies etc. ".
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/portland-poop-crisis-triggers-bacteria-outbreak-normally-found-third-world
Elvis 2008
12-31-23, 19:14
See that "having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States" thingy?.Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? Ever heard of an impeachment trial? If Trump were successfully impeached, he could not run again. You douches just did not like that result and now ignore it and take whatever laws you can and say Trump is a criminal.
Hell, even CNN is saying Trump's criminal trials are political: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZewAFmsO0sc.
And then you have MDS link, Maine Secretary of State claims that the reason Trump needed to be legally removed from the ballot was because "If his name was on the ballot, there's a good chance people would have voted for him. ".
You and Taibbi are lucky the Law is only considering Trump's violation.How many people voted for Trump? Do not give me this whataboutism bullshit. You are such a narcissist that you imagine everyone is on your side. You are like John Clayton who assumes anyone against dumping billions into the Ukraine stalemate is a Russian bot or Putin lover.
So we know 2016 was attempted to be rigged. We know that once Trump was elected in 2016, FBI douche Peter Strzok and his FBI lawyer lover tried to get Trump booted from office. We know that Dems are doing everything possible to rig 2024 but 2020 was the most pristine in history? Yeah right.
However, as I pointed out previously, there are certainly enough traitorous Repub justices on the Supreme Court to carve out another extra magical exceptionSo if the "Republican" Supreme Court rules for Trump, you are already making excuses. You have already shown that rule of law only means something when Democrats say it is.
Where do you get off calling the Supreme Court traitorous? That literally is insurrection talk. You Dems have already been insurrectionists by threatening Supreme Court justices after they made the abortion ruling.
I want to thank you Tooms for showing me how demented the average Democratic douche is. You literally are advocating for one party rule and against Democracy, and that is why sadly it is going to take violence to keep guys like you in check.
I am done trying to convince you of anything. Biden has classified documents illegally in his possession, his lawyer gets them. With Trump, a SWAT team gets them at gunpoint. Oh yeah, you have all these bullshit reasons as to why it is different. I am done listening to your excuses. Until you have another person armed with a machine gun in your face, you will not get it. You are beyond hope. You think the only rational POV is yours.
"he is paid per the anti-American lie he tells. Same as Trump. And maybe the same amount as they pay Trump too since Trump needs the money so badly he is probably willing to accept anything.
It wouldn't have to be much. I mean, these guys are happy to eat off the sidewalks of Russia, one of the worst countries on the planet. ".
I remember when I was showing you some pics of putas when I flew to BKK from Moscow and you said if you could get pussy like that you would move there LMAO.
Here are a few pics from outside the Marriott I stayed in, in Moscow near the Bolshoi.
And a few from Soi 4 outside Nana, see if you can pick them out LMAO they are all from the same month.
I've been around much of the world and nothing compares to Moscow or STB with their sheer beauty.
I saw ZERO criminals or filthy homeless junkies etc. ".
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/portland-poop-crisis-triggers-bacteria-outbreak-normally-found-third-worldGet back to us after more than a Million Americans have died from any of those supposedly dangerous germs.
Only one so-called potus has ever Mass Murdered that many Americans as the direct result of his classic disastrous Repub Ecomomic and National Security decisions, stewardship and either classic Repub utter incompetence or classic Repub determined disastrous intentions. Or a combination of the two.
He did it sometime during just the past 15 years. Oh, and it wasn't Barack Obama or Joe Biden. I hope that helps you to figure out who it was.
You saw ZERO criminals there? Then I guess that means Trump and Putin must have been meeting in another city for their usual butt buddy sessions.
It isn't even close.
U.S. News Best Countries.
2023 Rankings.
The overall ranking of Best Countries measure global performance on a variety of metrics.
Switzerland is the best country in the world for 2023.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings
USA is #5.
Thailand is #29.
Russia is #37.Oh sure, let's believe USNEWS that the USA is #5 in the world for best countries? LOL.
Come on this is fucking laughable.
As this being internationalsexguide I believe most of us are very well travelled.
I wouldn't even rank the US in the top 20. That list is a joke and the US is the worst country in the western world to live in.
If someone wanted to put it outside the top 30 I wouldn't argue either probably.
MarquisdeSade1
01-01-24, 00:37
"Oh sure, let's believe NEWS that the USA is #5 in the world for best countries? LOL.
Come on this is fucking laughable.
As this being internationalsexguide I believe most of us are very well travelled.
I wouldn't even rank the US in the top 20. That list is a joke and the US is the worst country in the western world to live in.
If someone wanted to put it outside the top 30 I wouldn't argue either probably. ".
I disagree with your post including this part, most are just voyeurs, or have only been to 1 or 2 places.
"As this being internationalsexguide I believe most of us are very well travelled. ".
Have you ever lived in the USA? If so where?
If you think there are better countries, list them, you say at least 30 more, lets hear them.
Please don't list anything in Western Europe or any place in that huge shithole know as Asia.
I love really Russia but I don't even know if I could handle its weather or I would move there next week if it had San Diego weather.
I can think of 1 place I wouldn't mind trying, Buenos Aires.
But I probably wouldn't last long, great food and the best medical care in the world are very important to me!!
Oh sure, let's believe USNEWS that the USA is #5 in the world for best countries? LOL.
Come on this is fucking laughable.
As this being internationalsexguide I believe most of us are very well travelled.
I wouldn't even rank the US in the top 20. That list is a joke and the US is the worst country in the western world to live in.
If someone wanted to put it outside the top 30 I wouldn't argue either probably.Really? Well, I consider myself well-traveled and I'd be very interested in your list of top 20 that doesn't include the US. Only please, let's be grownups and count some metrics other than mongering like, I don't know, economic security, infrastructure, the rule of law -- silly stuff like this.
Oh sure, let's believe USNEWS that the USA is #5 in the world for best countries? LOL.
Come on this is fucking laughable.
As this being internationalsexguide I believe most of us are very well travelled.
I wouldn't even rank the US in the top 20. That list is a joke and the US is the worst country in the western world to live in.
If someone wanted to put it outside the top 30 I wouldn't argue either probably.Well, if you have any link to a list from anyone other than one Repub Trumpster on an international sex website touting Russia as a better country to live in than the USA, which was his suggestion, along with the criteria for such a conclusion, please feel free to post it.
So far the criteria seems only to be regarding his pleasure derived from eating off sidewalks. And even on that basis I suspect he could find plenty of sidewalks in the USA from which to happily dine. Maybe just not in his chosen neighborhood.
MarquisdeSade1
01-01-24, 06:26
"Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? Ever heard of an impeachment trial? If Trump were successfully impeached, he could not run again. You douches just did not like that result and now ignore it and take whatever laws you can and say Trump is a criminal.
Hell, even CNN is saying Trump's criminal trials are political: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZewAFmsO0sc.
And then you have MDS link, Maine Secretary of State claims that the reason Trump needed to be legally removed from the ballot was because "If his name was on the ballot, there's a good chance people would have voted for him. ".
How many people voted for Trump? Do not give me this whataboutism bullshit. You are such a narcissist that you imagine everyone is on your side. You are like John Clayton who assumes anyone against dumping billions into the Ukraine stalemate is a Russian bot or Putin lover.
So we know 2016 was attempted to be rigged. We know that once Trump was elected in 2016, FBI douche Peter Strzok and his FBI lawyer lover tried to get Trump booted from office. We know that Dems are doing everything possible to rig 2024 but 2020 was the most pristine in history? Yeah right.
So if the "Republican" Supreme Court rules for Trump, you are already making excuses. You have already shown that rule of law only means something when Democrats say it is.
Where do you get off calling the Supreme Court traitorous? That literally is insurrection talk. You Dems have already been insurrectionists by threatening Supreme Court justices after they made the abortion ruling.
I want to thank you Tooms for showing me how demented the average Democratic douche is. You literally are advocating for one party rule and against Democracy, and that is why sadly it is going to take violence to keep guys like you in check.
I am done trying to convince you of anything. Biden has classified documents illegally in his possession, his lawyer gets them. With Trump, a SWAT team gets them at gunpoint. Oh yeah, you have all these bullshit reasons as to why it is different. I am done listening to your excuses. Until you have another person armed with a machine gun in your face, you will not get it. You are beyond hope. You think the only rational POV is yours. ".
His "mentality" represents the avg low IQ DNC voter.
I suspect a byproduct of having a half white black muslim in the White House and listening to Rachel Maddow too much.
Thats why you don't hear from Hussein the muslim anymore I'm guessing the deep state has asked him to make himself scarce (hes basically in exile in the witness protection program).
Along with Rachel the lezbo.
The 2 of them broke the country and they arent going to fix it.
I'm also guessing it will take some serious bloodshed to right the ship?
What we really need at this juncture is an American Putin!!
These traitors need to be crushed without MERCY!!
Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? Ever heard of an impeachment trial? If Trump were successfully impeached, he could not run again. You douches just did not like that result and now ignore it and take whatever laws you can and say Trump is a criminal.
Hell, even CNN is saying Trump's criminal trials are political: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZewAFmsO0sc.
And then you have MDS link, Maine Secretary of State claims that the reason Trump needed to be legally removed from the ballot was because "If his name was on the ballot, there's a good chance people would have voted for him. ".
How many people voted for Trump? Do not give me this whataboutism bullshit. You are such a narcissist that you imagine everyone is on your side. You are like John Clayton who assumes anyone against dumping billions into the Ukraine stalemate is a Russian bot or Putin lover.
So we know 2016 was attempted to be rigged. We know that once Trump was elected in 2016, FBI douche Peter Strzok and his FBI lawyer lover tried to get Trump booted from office. We know that Dems are doing everything possible to rig 2024 but 2020 was the most pristine in history? Yeah right.
So if the "Republican" Supreme Court rules for Trump, you are already making excuses. You have already shown that rule of law only means something when Democrats say it is.
Where do you get off calling the Supreme Court traitorous? That literally is insurrection talk. You Dems have already been insurrectionists by threatening Supreme Court justices after they made the abortion ruling.
I want to thank you Tooms for showing me how demented the average Democratic douche is. You literally are advocating for one party rule and against Democracy, and that is why sadly it is going to take violence to keep guys like you in check.
I am done trying to convince you of anything. Biden has classified documents illegally in his possession, his lawyer gets them. With Trump, a SWAT team gets them at gunpoint. Oh yeah, you have all these bullshit reasons as to why it is different. I am done listening to your excuses. Until you have another person armed with a machine gun in your face, you will not get it. You are beyond hope. You think the only rational POV is yours.1. Trump was duly and fully Impeached. Twice. You are apparently thinking about Trump not being convicted by the Senate and, therefore, not barred from running for office again on those grounds. That is a separate issue.
But, I agree that it is an important aspect of it and ought to be factored in to the case against all the members of the House and Senate who are also Constitutionally disqualified from holding office on that "given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof" thingy; Any member of Congress who did not support Trump's Impeachment or vote for his conviction when he was duly and fully Impeached for inciting an Insurrection against America fits that criteria perfectly.
2. The Constitution says nothing about a legal conviction being required to accept a previous oath-taker's actions being enough to disqualify him to hold office. Aside from the fact that sworn testimony from mostly members of his own Party and even in his own administration gave witness to his repeated attempts to obstruct and overturn the Constitionally-sanctioned and required confirmation of a repeatedly proven free and fair election, he himself has not uttered or offered one shred of evidence or reasoning for why he sat on his butt for over 3 hours watching his Insurrectionist mob attack and eventually kill several police officers in their coup attempt without doing ANYYHING to stop them, despite being urged to do so over and over again by his staff. Which is by itself another violation of that Oath of Office thingy he began to shit on from the moment he took it.
MarquisdeSade1
01-01-24, 08:43
"Really? Well, I consider myself well-traveled and I'd be very interested in your list of top 20 that doesn't include the US. Only please, let's be grownups and count some metrics other than mongering like, I don't know, economic security, infrastructure, the rule of law -- silly stuff like this. ".
"let's be grownups and count some metrics other than mongering".
I would be willing to consider living in another country, although I can't imagine there is another better than the USA.
Ill list a few reasons to back that up.
-many of the best physicians in the world by lightyears.
-the best country in the world to educate your children (as long as you can afford pvt schools LOL).
-the best food in the world, evinced by the obesity issues LOL.
-depending on your address safe drinking water, and safe from criminals.
-great place to make money.
-pre Biden, free speech rights are very important to me.
I'm sure I can go on and on all night.
"let's be grownups and count some metrics other than mongering".
But if I were to ever consider why would I move to another country that didn't have great mongering.
That would be very high on my list of must haves, maybe even #1.
I would never move to another country that didn't have great mongering, what would be the fucking point?
I don't even want to visit a place that doesn't have great mongering why the fuck would I want to move to another country like that.
The USA is bad enough in that regard.
MarquisdeSade1
01-01-24, 08:58
"Weren't those the Russian hos where you said the good looking ones would not agree to Real Sex / BBBJ+CIP no matter how poor their country was?
Lucky you, they might be getting free condoms from Biden any minute now. LOL. ".
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gigizamora/2023/04/08/the-cities-with-the-most-billionaires-2023/?sh=5d7fb3921147
I didn't see any poverty, and my last visit I was there for a month and traveled all over the city fucking whoors.
MarquisdeSade1
01-01-24, 12:55
Scumbag Joe has destroyed that, for 3 hellish years now.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/21/joe-biden-pressured-merrick-garland-prosecute-donald-trump-resurfaced-nyt-report-says/
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1741617816682320369?cxt=HBwW4se6naiLvKswAAAA&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email
Scumbag Joe and the whole Biden crime family needs to be arrested with SWAT teams on Jan 20.2025 at 1201 pm.
MarquisdeSade1
01-01-24, 14:17
"Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? Ever heard of an impeachment trial? If Trump were successfully impeached, he could not run again. You douches just did not like that result and now ignore it and take whatever laws you can and say Trump is a criminal.
Hell, even CNN is saying Trump's criminal trials are political: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZewAFmsO0sc.
And then you have MDS link, Maine Secretary of State claims that the reason Trump needed to be legally removed from the ballot was because "If his name was on the ballot, there's a good chance people would have voted for him. ".
How many people voted for Trump? Do not give me this whataboutism bullshit. You are such a narcissist that you imagine everyone is on your side. You are like John Clayton who assumes anyone against dumping billions into the Ukraine stalemate is a Russian bot or Putin lover.
So we know 2016 was attempted to be rigged. We know that once Trump was elected in 2016, FBI douche Peter Strzok and his FBI lawyer lover tried to get Trump booted from office. We know that Dems are doing everything possible to rig 2024 but 2020 was the most pristine in history? Yeah right.
So if the "Republican" Supreme Court rules for Trump, you are already making excuses. You have already shown that rule of law only means something when Democrats say it is.
Where do you get off calling the Supreme Court traitorous? That literally is insurrection talk. You Dems have already been insurrectionists by threatening Supreme Court justices after they made the abortion ruling.
I want to thank you Tooms for showing me how demented the average Democratic douche is. You literally are advocating for one party rule and against Democracy, and that is why sadly it is going to take violence to keep guys like you in check.
I am done trying to convince you of anything. Biden has classified documents illegally in his possession, his lawyer gets them. With Trump, a SWAT team gets them at gunpoint. Oh yeah, you have all these bullshit reasons as to why it is different. I am done listening to your excuses. Until you have another person armed with a machine gun in your face, you will not get it. You are beyond hope. You think the only rational POV is yours. ".
Or do they know its coming because they are going to provoke it?
Zuckerturd will be Enemy #1 he better have a very large private army to go with that bunker.
And extra room for the likes of Mike Bloomturd!!
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/mark-zuckerberg-hawaii-bunker/2023/12/31/id/1147767/
He wants to protect his CCP commie wife and kids because the Bay area won't be safe enough for any of them.
So a secluded island in the middle of the Pacific half way to CCPland is his safest bet.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023/12/31/censorship-ramping-facebook-suspends-libs-tiktok-going-against-community-standards/
Scumbag Joe has destroyed that, for 3 hellish years now.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/21/joe-biden-pressured-merrick-garland-prosecute-donald-trump-resurfaced-nyt-report-says/
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1741617816682320369?cxt=HBwW4se6naiLvKswAAAA&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email
Scumbag Joe and the whole Biden crime family needs to be arrested with SWAT teams on Jan 20.2025 at 1201 pm.LOL. Breitbatshit:
Joe Biden Pressured Merrick Garland to Prosecute Donald Trump, Resurfaced NYT Report Says
"And while the president has never communicated his frustrations directly to Mr. Garland"BTW, didn't a twice Impeached former so-called potus announce that Ted Cruz's dad helped to kill JFK? He probably read all about it on Breitbatshit.
"Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? Ever heard of an impeachment trial? If Trump were successfully impeached, he could not run again. You douches just did not like that result and now ignore it and take whatever laws you can and say Trump is a criminal.
Hell, even CNN is saying Trump's criminal trials are political: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZewAFmsO0sc.
And then you have MDS link, Maine Secretary of State claims that the reason Trump needed to be legally removed from the ballot was because "If his name was on the ballot, there's a good chance people would have voted for him. ".
How many people voted for Trump? Do not give me this whataboutism bullshit. You are such a narcissist that you imagine everyone is on your side. You are like John Clayton who assumes anyone against dumping billions into the Ukraine stalemate is a Russian bot or Putin lover.
So we know 2016 was attempted to be rigged. We know that once Trump was elected in 2016, FBI douche Peter Strzok and his FBI lawyer lover tried to get Trump booted from office. We know that Dems are doing everything possible to rig 2024 but 2020 was the most pristine in history? Yeah right.
So if the "Republican" Supreme Court rules for Trump, you are already making excuses. You have already shown that rule of law only means something when Democrats say it is.
Where do you get off calling the Supreme Court traitorous? That literally is insurrection talk. You Dems have already been insurrectionists by threatening Supreme Court justices after they made the abortion ruling.
I want to thank you Tooms for showing me how demented the average Democratic douche is. You literally are advocating for one party rule and against Democracy, and that is why sadly it is going to take violence to keep guys like you in check.
I am done trying to convince you of anything. Biden has classified documents illegally in his possession, his lawyer gets them. With Trump, a SWAT team gets them at gunpoint. Oh yeah, you have all these bullshit reasons as to why it is different. I am done listening to your excuses. Until you have another person armed with a machine gun in your face, you will not get it. You are beyond hope. You think the only rational POV is yours. ".
Or do they know its coming because they are going to provoke it?
Zuckerturd will be Enemy #1 he better have a very large private army to go with that bunker.
And extra room for the likes of Mike Bloomturd!!
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/mark-zuckerberg-hawaii-bunker/2023/12/31/id/1147767/
He wants to protect his CCP commie wife and kids because the Bay area won't be safe enough for any of them.
So a secluded island in the middle of the Pacific half way to CCPland is his safest bet.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023/12/31/censorship-ramping-facebook-suspends-libs-tiktok-going-against-community-standards/So both you and Elvis are completely baffled by the far from subtle difference between accidentally having classified documents packed in a box by staffers and immediately responding to a request to return them without even one subpoena being delivered vs defying a request to return them for a year, denying and ignoring a subpoena to return them for months, then defiantly announcing they "belong to ME" and getting caught directing your staff and attorneys to lie about them and hide them, some of the most dangerous ones still going missing?
And the far from subtle difference between simply saying "We was ROBBED" after losing an election vs actively taking measures to incite a violent, cop-killing Insurrectionist mob to storm the Capitol to overturn a repeatedly proven free and fair election while the leader of that mob sat on his butt for over 3 hours doing and saying nothing to stop the attack in total violation of his sworn under oath Constitutional duties as a supposed potus re enforcing the laws of the country?
LOL. Your total and, likely, willful ignorance on just those two blatantly obvious differences should skyrocket you right to the top of Trump's or any Repub's list of Repub Party-"qualified" picks for Secretary of State, Attorney General or perhaps even Vice President should the country really go so raving lunatic crazy to ever again put a Repub in a position to make picks for anything important, much less raving, frothing at the mouth lunatic crazy enough for it to be Donald Trump.
And that, folks, is why Repub Economic and National Security Policy and Stewardship cannot help but produce the historic crap results it has produced virtually exclusively and NONE of the historic positive results for almost 100 years. LOL.
... This year the public is being forced to research questions in which they have no say. We all understand now that there's a disqualification clause in the 14th Amendment. We also understand that this clause seems to have been written with deliberate vagueness. I'm no lawyer, but I doubt the 14th Amendment was designed to empower unelected state officials to unilaterally strike major party frontrunners from the presidential ballot.
F it was, that's a shock. I must have missed that in AP Insane Legal Loopholes class.
Is there any way this ends well? It feels harder and harder to imagine.
End of link.
Here we have Tooms going off on this bullshit line about "rule of law" while even a Democratic Congressman from man shoots it down. How many politicians have had the 14th amendment used to disqualify them from seeking office Tooms? I will give you a minute.
Are you ready? The answer is none. Elvis 2008, you'd be wrong AGAIN! As usual, yet another "know nothing" Repub, spreading disinformation and getting the facts wrong AGAIN! Not too mention throwing the Rule of Law, under the bus, when it suits their right-wing agenda.
There is precedence for an official removed from office, using the 14th Amendment. Whereby the official was found to have encouraged, incited and/or engaged in unlawful actions to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power.
ABC NEWS: Official removed from office under 14th Amendment...
"Former Otero County, New Mexico, Commissioner Couy Griffin was disqualified almost exactly a year ago after Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics (CREW) sued to eject him from his role under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-faces-14th-amendment-suits-cuoy-griffin-speaks/story?id=103009491
14th Amendment: New Mexico official first politician removed over January 6 attack ...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/06/jan-6-new-mexico-couy-griffin-first-politician-removed
And how many people did the "insurrections" murder on January 6? That would be none too. ... Wrong AGAIN...dude! While no one was officially "murdered" per se (unless you want to included the attempted murders of Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi), there were seven (7) people killed or died, directly related to the actions of the insurrectionists.
The New York Times: These Are the People Who Died in Connection With the Capitol Riot.
"A bipartisan Senate report found that at least seven people had lost their lives in connection with the Jan. 6 attack...."
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html
Elvis 2008, are you still that gullible, believing the lies, FOXY Muse and Newsmax are feeding ya?
Elvis 2008, you'd be wrong AGAIN! As usual, yet another "know nothing" Repub, spreading disinformation and getting the facts wrong AGAIN! Not too mention throwing the Rule of Law, under the bus, when it suits their right-wing agenda. There is precedence for an official removed from office, using the 14th Amendment. Whereby the official was found to have encouraged, incited and/or engaged in unlawful actions to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power. Elvis 2008, are you still that gullible, believing the lies, FOXY Muse and Newsmax are feeding ya?Even if there was no precedent, there's no "precedent" for Donald Trump either. We've never had a president who did what he did. It' all new and we're kind of muddling our way through this. But the shoe fits Trump, so now he has to wear it! And as far as all of the lying in the conservative media, hell FOX "News" (rolling eyes) finally had to own up to its lying to the tune of $800 million dollars, and their own internal communications prove they were lying about stuff and knew they were lying. But here's the kicker. Their loyal audience knows they lie but they don't care so long as the "conservative" media tells them what they want to hear (I put conservative in quotes because these "outfits" do conservatism a great injustice). They (the conservative audience) don't want to know the truth (they can't handle it), and "news outlets" like FOX were eager to serve up the lies to feed their own bottom lines. That is until they got slapped with an $800 million dollar settlement. What's that bottom line look like now? Not as bad as Rudy's LMAO! Another liar! Their all getting theirs. And good! The sweetest will be when Trump finally goes down. He will. Be patient.
I will let Taibbi take the first part:
Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows decided Thursday to remove Donald Trump from the state's presidential ballot.
Jared Golden, a Democratic congressman from Lewiston who voted to impeach Trump over the January 6th riots, quickly issued a statement:
We are a nation of laws, therefore until he is actually found guilty of the crime of insurrection, he should be allowed on the ballot. ...
"State's Rights...baby!" and "State Laws...baby!"...the all but too familiar and often heard battle cry of the Repubs and the conservative SCOTUS, that love to ad nauseam, drone on and on and on, about "State Rights"....that is of course, until it no longer suits their right-wing agenda.
I for one applaud Colorado and Maine for standing up and invoking "State's Rights!", w/r to their state's election voting rights, to have Trump removed/disqualified from the ballot, when said candidate does not meet or violets constitutional, legal and justified grounds, surrounding state election voting law requirements for taking office.
What's hilarious and so blatantly hypocritical, is that all of a sudden, Repubs are now frowning upon the inherent rights for the states to run their own elections, the way they see fit, under the law and constitution. Much like how they just advocated for states rights, w/r to ABORTION in Dobbs' overturning of Roe v. Wade.
The Democrats are playing a game here with the Supreme Court just like they did with the abortion issue.
...
Those people better live the country and quick.Ugh! What now?
Not sure what you were getting at in several of the last paragraphs, but it sure did make for lots of bluster, pomp and circumstance. And naturally true to form, the ugly right-wing Repub ideology, rears its grotesque head, with the dogwhistles and the usually subtle hints of thuggery and violence.
I will say this much, that SCOTUS overturning "State's Rights" to run their own elections as they see fit, will prove very interesting, as the (right-wing) SCOTUS will once again be seen as hypocrites and pandering to "States Rights" ONLY when it suits their right-wing majority agenda and not anything having to do with the actual Constitutional Laws.
However, IMHO, what will be even more interesting, is if SCOTUS upholds "States Rights", to strike Trump from the ballot, which of course is the "right thing to do", under constitutional law. But will it open a "Pandora's box"? or a "slippery slope" of voting disqualifications across states? Rightly so for Trump, but perhaps even more so in retaliation, unfairly and unjustly for Biden?
Again, I wouldn't worry to much Elvis 2008, as the right-wing conservative SCOTUS, are very comfortable being hypocrites, and as such will be very hypocritical and go against "States Rights" no doubt, and overturn the Colorado and Maine's State Courts ruling.
It will be just as interesting to watch Judge Gorsuch, contort himself into a hypocrite pretzel, as the Colorado court used Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch's ruling, to justify disqualifying Trump.
"As then-Judge Gorsuch recognized in Hassan, it is 'a state's legitimate interest in protecting the integrity and practical functioning of the political process' that 'permits it to exclude from the ballot candidates who are constitutionally prohibited from assuming office,'" the state opinion reads.
https://www.businessinsider.com/neil-gorsuch-supreme-court-cited-colorado-ruling-disqualified-trump-ballot-2023-12?op=1
Well now...won't it be interesting to see if Judge Gorsuch, is a two-face liar and a hypocrite, or will he abide by HIS OWN ruling, to uphold "States Rights".
BTW, (the bought and paid for) Judge Clarence Thomas, should also recuse himself from the decision (if he had an once of integrity), due to the fact his beast of a wife, was also engaged in the J6 insurrection.
Elvis 2008
01-02-24, 19:39
So both you and Elvis are completely baffled by the far from subtle difference between accidentally having classified documents packed in a box by staffers.And this from Mr. Rule of Law guy. Trump and Biden broke the same law, and you are in no position of knowing who is telling the truth about what happened or which one is lying. What is fact is that they both broke the same law and Trump's documents were taken by machine gun and Biden's were not.
And you are such a narcissist you think it could not happen to you. Yes, Mr. Rule of Law, Trump can offer up a subpoena for millions of documents, some of which you do not have, and when you do not produce them, order a SWAT team in to go raid your residence. You opened up that Pandora's box. No federal judge is going to protect you after this fiasco.
There is precedence for an official removed from office, using the 14th Amendment. Whereby the official was found to have encouraged, incited and/or engaged in unlawful actions to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power.
ABC NEWS: Official removed from office under 14th Amendment...
"Former Otero County, New Mexico, Commissioner Couy Griffin was disqualified almost exactly a year ago after Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics (CREW) sued to eject him from his role under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-faces-14th-amendment-suits-cuoy-griffin-speaks/story?id=103009491
14th Amendment: New Mexico official first politician removed over January 6 attack ...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/06/jan-6-new-mexico-couy-griffin-first-politician-removed
Wrong AGAIN...dude! While no one was officially "murdered" per se (unless you want to included the attempted murders of Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi), there were seven (7) people killed or died, directly related to the actions of the insurrectionists.I could not be more happy to be more wrong, Spidy. Now that you douches are saying it is legal to kick people out of office for just the appearance of being in an insurrection, we can kick out of office anyone associated with the 2020 steal, the future 2024 steal, and anyone involved in the BLM riots or with BLM period. We do not need a trial. We just need the videotape and we can start ignoring the will of the people and election results too.
Thing that gets me is the Democrats pull their douche shit first, and Republicans hit back 10 X harder. What gets me with you and Tooms Spidy is you are literally cheering on disregarding the vote / will of the people and literally cheering on the weaponization of the legal system. You are cheering on verdicts without trials, criminal prosecutions for political purposes, and votes not counting. You are literally tearing up Democracy because you want one party rule. There is no arguing with you two. There is just defeating you.
Now that we know beyond a doubt that is what you Dems really want, one party rule by any means possible, we are going to do all we can to make sure the one party in power is ours.
I keep waiting for one of you to say, "Hey, this is too much", but now I see there is nothing you would not do to win.
MarquisdeSade1
01-03-24, 02:11
"State's Rights. Baby!" and "State Laws. Baby! The all but too familiar and often heard battle cry of the Repubs and the conservative SCOTUS that love to ad nauseam, drone on and on and on, about "State Rights". That is of course, until it no longer suits their right-wing agenda.
I for one applaud Colorado and Maine for standing up and invoking "State's Rights! W / are to their state's election voting rights, to have Trump removed / disqualified from the ballot, when said candidate does not meet or violets constitutional, legal and justified grounds, surrounding state election voting law requirements for taking office.
What's hilarious and so blatantly hypocritical, is that all of a sudden, Repubs are now frowning upon the inherent rights for the states to run their own elections, the way they see fit, under the law and constitution. Much like how they just advocated for states rights, w / are to ABORTION in Dobbs' overturning of Roe v. Wade.
Ugh! What now?
Not sure what you were getting at in several of the last paragraphs, but it sure did make for lots of bluster, pomp and circumstance. And naturally true to form, the ugly right-wing Repub ideology, rears its grotesque head, with the dogwhistles and the usually subtle hints of thuggery and violence.
I will say this much, that SCOTUS overturning "State's Rights" to run their own elections as they see fit, will prove very interesting, as the (right-wing) SCOTUS will once again be seen as hypocrites and pandering to "States Rights" ONLY when it suits their right-wing majority agenda and not anything having to do with the actual Constitutional Laws.
However, IMHO, what will be even more interesting, is if SCOTUS upholds "States Rights", to strike Trump from the ballot, which of course is the "right thing to do", under constitutional law. But will it open a "Pandora's box"? Or a "slippery slope" of voting disqualifications across states? Rightly so for Trump, but perhaps even more so in retaliation, unfairly and unjustly for Biden?
Again, I wouldn't worry to much Elvis 2008, as the right-wing conservative SCOTUS, are very comfortable being hypocrites, and as such will be very hypocritical and go against "States Rights" no doubt, and overturn the Colorado and Maine's State Courts ruling.
It will be just as interesting to watch Judge Gorsuch, contort himself into a hypocrite pretzel, as the Colorado court used Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch's ruling, to justify disqualifying Trump.
"As then-Judge Gorsuch recognized in Hassan, it is 'a state's legitimate interest in protecting the integrity and practical functioning of the political process' that 'permits it to exclude from the ballot candidates who are constitutionally prohibited from assuming office, the state opinion reads.
https://www.businessinsider.com/neil-gorsuch-supreme-court-cited-colorado-ruling-disqualified-trump-ballot-2023-12?op=1
Well now. Won't it be interesting to see if Judge Gorsuch, is a two-face liar and a hypocrite, or will he abide by HIS OWN ruling, to uphold "States Rights".
BTW, (the bought and paid for) Judge Clarence Thomas, should also recuse himself from the decision (if he had an once of integrity), due to the fact his beast of a wife, was also engaged in the J6 insurrection. ".
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/opinion/harvard-claudine-gay-resignation.html
BTW what do you know about the law besides what you regurgitate from MSNBC?
You jail house lawyers probably know even less than that NON atty in Maine trying to play atty for the news cameras LMAO.
Due to the fact his beast of a wife? That sounds blatantly racist!!
If he was a Democrat and I called her a beast I'm guessing many here would flip the fuck out.
Because it seems you are stating a black man could only get a white wife if she is a nasty beast, is that what you are positing?
you racists are out to destroy Christian White America, one illegal alien at a time
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/what-great-replacement-theory-musk-exposes-immense-growing-size-illegal-immigration
everything you MFers say and do is motivated by your racism towards hetero white Christians
And this from Mr. Rule of Law guy. Trump and Biden broke the same law, and you are in no position of knowing who is telling the truth about what happened or which one is lying. What is fact is that they both broke the same law and Trump's documents were taken by machine gun and Biden's were not.
And you are such a narcissist you think it could not happen to you. Yes, Mr. Rule of Law, Trump can offer up a subpoena for millions of documents, some of which you do not have, and when you do not produce them, order a SWAT team in to go raid your residence. You opened up that Pandora's box. No federal judge is going to protect you after this fiasco.
I could not be more happy to be more wrong, Spidy. Now that you douches are saying it is legal to kick people out of office for just the appearance of being in an insurrection, we can kick out of office anyone associated with the 2020 steal, the future 2024 steal, and anyone involved in the BLM riots or with BLM period. We do not need a trial. We just need the videotape and we can start ignoring the will of the people and election results too.
Thing that gets me is the Democrats pull their douche shit first, and Republicans hit back 10 X harder. What gets me with you and Tooms Spidy is you are literally cheering on disregarding the vote / will of the people and literally cheering on the weaponization of the legal system. You are cheering on verdicts without trials, criminal prosecutions for political purposes, and votes not counting. You are literally tearing up Democracy because you want one party rule. There is no arguing with you two. There is just defeating you.
Now that we know beyond a doubt that is what you Dems really want, one party rule by any means possible, we are going to do all we can to make sure the one party in power is ours.
I keep waiting for one of you to say, "Hey, this is too much", but now I see there is nothing you would not do to win.Actually, I am in a perfect position to know the difference between what happened with regard to documents found in virtually every top Executive Branch storage boxes over the years vs the extraordinarily illegal way Trump dealt with it.
Because I read, listen to and watch real news coverage and witness testimony of such things.
You should try it sometimes. Spoiler alert: Joe Biden won the 2020 election fair and square and the Impeachment of President Hunter Biden by ChristoFacist Mike is only a distraction from his Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Repub Pink Tinkle House finally stop sitting on their butts Doing Nothing while they could be earning their pay for a nice change of pace working on Comprehensive Immigration Reform after Trump left that system in total tatters.
No, there is no evidence that Joe Biden "committed the same crime" as Trump committed or in fact any crime at all regarding classified documents or anything else.
In stark contrast to the abundance of evidence and outright admission by Trump himself that he committed such a crime:
U.S.C. 1924 - UNAUTHORIZED REMOVAL AND RETENTION OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS OR MATERIAL
https://www.thefederalcriminalattorneys.com/classified-documents#text=Therefore%2 see%20 Title%2018%20 USA see. ,unauthorized%20 removal%20 of%20 classified%20 documents.
In the United States, protecting classified information is paramount to safeguarding national security. Thus, when government officers, employees, or contractors mishandle classified materials entrusted to them, it risks significant harm to the United States and its interests.
Therefore, Title 18 U.S.C. 1924 makes it a federal crime to knowingly remove classified documents or materials from their designated locations without authorization or retain them in an unauthorized area.Anticipating the next Twisty McPretzel Winger twist and turn over definitions of simple, commonly used words:
KNOWINGLY
knowingly
/ˈnōiNGlē/
adverb
1.
in a way that suggests one has secret knowledge or awareness.
"Amy looked at me knowingly"
Similar:
deliberately
intentionally
consciously
wittingly
with full knowledge
in full awareness
with one's eyes open
on purpose
by design
calculatedly
premeditatedly
studiedly
willfully
purposefully
willingly
Opposite:
accidentally
unawares
2.
in full awareness or consciousness; deliberately.
"I can honestly say I've never knowingly misled anyone"
RETAIN
retain
/rəˈtān/
verb
1.
continue to have (something); keep possession of.
"built in 1830, the house retains many of its original features"
Similar:
keep
keep possession of
keep hold of
hold onto
hold fast to
keep back
hang onto
cling to
cleave to
maintain
continue
preserve
reserve
conserve
perpetuate
cherish
Opposite:
give up
lose
abolish
discontinue
alter
2.
absorb and continue to hold (a substance).
"limestone is known to retain water"The moment Trump refused the National Archive requests to return those documents he committed a crime. Then he continued to commit that crime over and over again when he ignored the subpoena, directed his attorneys and staff to move and hide them, etc. That is why Federal Agents eventually had to enter the scene of Trump's crime in order to prevent him from continuing to commit that crime and continuing to put the United States of America at grave National Security risk.
Joe Biden committed no crime in that regard. Therefore, no subpoena and no Federal Agent intervention were required.
See how that works?
I'm also guessing it will take some serious bloodshed to right the ship?
What we really need at this juncture is an American Putin!!We already had an American Putin.
He never tried to right the ship.
He tried to hijack the ship, but fortunately failed.
Never again!
"State's Rights...baby!" and "State Laws...baby!"...the all but too familiar and often heard battle cry of the Repubs and the conservative SCOTUS, that love to ad nauseam, drone on and on and on, about "State Rights"....that is of course, until it no longer suits their right-wing agenda.Yep! Just like they hate "government handouts" unless government handouts benefit global corporations. Then they turn into Marxists in a New York minute or less.
I could not be more happy to be more wrong, Spidy. Happy to accommodate! But you being WRONG is nothing new. I imagine it fits like an "old hat" for you!
Now that you douches are saying it is legal to kick people out of office for just the appearance of being in an insurrection, we can kick out of office anyone associated with the 2020 steal, the future 2024 steal, and anyone involved in the BLM riots or with BLM period. We do not need a trial. We just need the videotape and we can start ignoring the will of the people and election results too.
BLM? (...Ugh?) I doubt very much the majority of BLM protestors have ever taken the oath of office before. So nice try, Elvis 2008! (...kkkk!)
BLM...kkkk! Too funny! But, okay I'll play along.
My Top 10 R.E.A.L. people or group of people to disqualify from office, having previous taken the oath office or service, according to the Sec #3 of the 14th Amendment. And because it's so obvious they knowingly engaged or took part in the J6 insurrection/coup.
1. Trump
2. 20% of The Republican House (Jim Jordan, Kevin McCarthy, Matt Gaetz, MTG, Lauren Boebert, Scott Perry, Ralph Norman, Andy Biggs...etc)
3. 10% of The Republican Senate (Josh Hawley, Lindsey Graham, Amanda Chase...etc
4. Trump Lawyers (Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani, John Eastman, Jeffery Clark, Kenneth Chesebro, Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis)
5. Trump Advisors (Mark Meadows, Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro, Kenneth Chesebro)
6. Trump Staffers (Christopher Charles Miller, Johnny McEntee, Steven Miller)
7. RNC Chairs (Ronna McDaniel and other State RNC Chairs and members...etc)
8. Republican fake/fraudster state electors (AZ, MS, NM, PA and GA)
9. Oath Keepers(Elmar Stewart Rhodes III, What an oxymoron name that is, having sacked the Capital....kkkk!)
10. The Proud Boys (Enrique Tarrio, Joe Biggs, Ethan Nordean, Zachary Reh ...etc)
Other notables, but may not have previously taken the oath of office/service:
Mike Lindell ('Pillow Guy' and 'Cyber Ninja' enthusiast )
Mark Finchem ('Gunsligher Guy')
So before we look at non-insurrectionists groups that DO NOT qualify (and really ONLY exist in the minds of Trumpsters and right-wing lunatic conspiracists), let's pump the breaks on such nonsense and FIRST disqualify the R.E.A.L. insurrectionists, according to the 14th Amendment and Section #3.
Thing that gets me is the Democrats pull their douche shit first, and Republicans hit back 10 X harder. Really! You mean, kinda like when the famous Repub "Red Wave" turned into the infamous "Pink Trickle"? (...kkkk!)
What gets me with you and Tooms Spidy is you are literally cheering on disregarding the vote / will of the people and literally cheering on the weaponization of the legal system.
Really? Mind telling me, what Repubs know about the "vote/will of the people", when your so called wanna be (2x impeached, 4x indicted, 91 criminal felony counts) fascist dictator/Repub leader Trump, is in the very predicament he's in, because he's failed to heed " the voting will of the people", save some 7 million voters for Biden to the strong.
You do realize, Trump's actions and denial of the election, makes the hypocrisy of your statement as dumfoundedly astonishing, as it is astoundingly bafflling!
You are cheering on verdicts without trials, criminal prosecutions for political purposes, and votes not counting. You are literally tearing up Democracy because you want one party rule. There is no arguing with you two. There is just defeating you.
Now that we know beyond a doubt that is what you Dems really want, one party rule by any means possible, we are going to do all we can to make sure the one party in power is ours.
I keep waiting for one of you to say, "Hey, this is too much", but now I see there is nothing you would not do to win.
First of all, a criminal indictment, prosecution or verdict, is NOT REQUIRED for disqualification under Section #3 of the 14th Amendment.
Second, the lower court of Colorado found enough evidence from Jan 6th Hearings (you'd know this if FOXY Muse, had televised the J6 Hearings) and agreed that Trump did engage in insurrection.
Third, although this judge kept him on the ballot, the higher Colorado Supreme Court, disqualified him and rightly so, IMHO.
A Colorado judge finds Trump 'engaged in insurrection,' but keeps him on the ballot.
https://www.npr.org/2023/11/18/1213961050/colorado-judge-finds-trump-engaged-in-insurrection-but-keeps-him-on-ballot
Now let's see what the "bought-and-paid-for" right-wing conservative SCOTUS do?
Finally, Dems have always (and painfully so, to my chagrin), taken the slow, measured, just and lawful steps, to tie together as much, facts, evidence and findings, to form a solid "air tight" case to elicit criminal charges if that's where the evidence takes them. Unlike the current "clown show", Republican lead House Judiciary Committee.
It has always been about seeking Justice for the Dems and sadly it has always been about seeking Revenge for the Repubs.
Ugly right-wing Repub ideology? Stop projecting and read BretNo you'd be flat out WRONG!
Projecting (and hypocrisy) is something the you and your fellow Republican cohorts do very well. In fact, PROJECTING (and hypocrisy) is something the Repubs have cornered the market on and have about a 90% share, when is comes to projecting (and hypocrisy).
Take the recent case of the "hypocrite/projecting" Florida Republican Zielgers, who knowingly were engaging in LGBTQ sex, threesomes and hell-knows, what other sexual depravity they were being hypocrites about, behind closed-doors? Meanwhile in public, they hypocritically called for LGBTQ book bans and blatantly, harmfully and willfully trampled, crushed and devastated the lives of LGBTQ students.
BTW what do you know about the law besides what you regurgitate from MSNBC? Perhaps that question is best answered, if you, MDS1, ask the very same question, while looking in the mirror?
Just remember to substitute "MSNBC" for any one of the number of the right-wing media frauds that you love so much. You know? The ones that lie to you, spread misinformation, ask you to send them money, have $787 million dollar defamation lawsuit for lying to Americans and yet another 30 or more lawsuits, for sexual harassment, wrongful termination, libel, slander and other defamation lawsuits. Yeah, those bogus right-wing media outlets!
You jail house lawyers probably know even less than that NON atty in Maine trying to play atty for the news cameras LMAO.
Due to the fact his beast of a wife? That sounds blatantly racist!!
If he was a Democrat and I called her a beast I'm guessing many here would flip the fuck out.
Because it seems you are stating a black man could only get a white wife if she is a nasty beast, is that what you are positing?
you racists are out to destroy Christian White America, one illegal alien at a time
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/what-great-replacement-theory-musk-exposes-immense-growing-size-illegal-immigration
everything you MFers say and do is motivated by your racism towards hetero white Christians Well, as for the rest of your post...that's just more 90% Republican PROJECTING, again!
Please specify where I mentioned race/color in my post? That is your "hang-up", NOT mine!
No need to "pull the race card" just yet (save that trick for another day), as race was neither explicitly nor implicitly implied, in my post.
As for Ginni Thomas, I said, "beast of a wife", simultaneously referring to her figuratively and literally, w/r to her political and dietary greed.
But it is funny though, as you on the other hand, refer to her as "...a nasty beast..." Please tell me, how exactly is it, you think Ginni Thomas, is "a nasty beast"?
FYI, today's usage of the word, "beast", is more often than not, seen and used positively.
For example:
-Four straight in-depth and poignant posts, that address and rebut MAGA Repub nonsense, has put me in "beast mode".
-Ginni Thomas is a beast, when it comes to her position on her J6 insurrection involvement.
Even if there was no precedent, there's no "precedent" for Donald Trump either. We've never had a president who did what he did. It' all new and we're kind of muddling our way through this. But the shoe fits Trump, so now he has to wear it! And as far as all of the lying in the conservative media, hell FOX "News" (rolling eyes) finally had to own up to its lying to the tune of $800 million dollars, and their own internal communications prove they were lying about stuff and knew they were lying. But here's the kicker. Their loyal audience knows they lie but they don't care so long as the "conservative" media tells them what they want to hear (I put conservative in quotes because these "outfits" do conservatism a great injustice). They (the conservative audience) don't want to know the truth (they can't handle it), and "news outlets" like FOX were eager to serve up the lies to feed their own bottom lines. That is until they got slapped with an $800 million dollar settlement. What's that bottom line look like now? Not as bad as Rudy's LMAO! Another liar! Their all getting theirs. And good! The sweetest will be when Trump finally goes down. He will. Be patient.
You put forth some great points and I agree 100% percent, with everything said.
Yes, indeed, for the past several years during the "Trump era" (which I hope I've seen the last of in 2024), we've seen and heard the word "unprecedented", become part of our lexicon, due large in part to the shenanigans and criminal behavior of the 2x impeached, 4x indicted, 91 criminal felony counts of the 45th.
As for the right-wing conservative media, again your assessment is bang on! I've just said as much in a recent post and have no doubt they'll go back to being lied to in their right-wing "echo-chambers", in no time at all.
I'll tell you what though, my biggest take-away from the "Trump era", thus far (and probably for the foreseeable future), is that:
One, however small the Republican right-wing "political grift" was in the past, before the "Trump era"...Trump has blown it up and has placed it on steroids;
AND
Two, Trump has set the bar so low, for becoming leader of the Republican party, that it's akin to "blood in the water", and attracted the other wanna be dictators, fascist authoritarians, low-life "sharks", narcissists, self-aggrandizing, self-absorbed, right-wing nutjobs, devoid of any REAL sense of civic duty to the American people;
AND
Three, Trump has paved the way, for every fascist, right-wing grifter, charlatan, two-bit hustler, "no nothing", "know nothing", fraudster, "snake-oil salesman" and wanna be politician-vampire-squid, to take office and suck the life from, the rule of law, the constitution and democracy, all selfishly in pursuant of the grift, for the almighty dollar.
AND there it is, the nihilist cult, that is the inevitable future of the QAnon/MAGA/Repub Party, in a nutshell. (Note: Yes, Repub "caucus" is a play/pun on the word "carcass")
You put forth some great points and I agree 100% percent, with everything said.
Yes, indeed, for the past several years during the "Trump era" (which I hope I've seen the last of in 2024), we've seen and heard the word "unprecedented", become part of our lexicon, due large in part to the shenanigans and criminal behavior of the 2x impeached, 4x indicted, 91 criminal felony counts of the 45th.
As for the right-wing conservative media, again your assessment is bang on! I've just said as much in a recent post and have no doubt they'll go back to being lied to in their right-wing "echo-chambers", in no time at all.
I'll tell you what though, my biggest take-away from the "Trump era", thus far (and probably for the foreseeable future), is that:
One, however small the Republican right-wing "political grift" was in the past, before the "Trump era"...Trump has blown it up and has placed it on steroids;
AND
Two, Trump has set the bar so low, for becoming leader of the Republican party, that it's akin to "blood in the water", and attracted the other wanna be dictators, fascist authoritarians, low-life "sharks", narcissists, self-aggrandizing, self-absorbed, right-wing nutjobs, devoid of any REAL sense of civic duty to the American people;
AND
Three, Trump has paved the way, for every fascist, right-wing grifter, charlatan, two-bit hustler, "no nothing", "know nothing", fraudster, "snake-oil salesman" and wanna be politician-vampire-squid, to take office and suck the life from, the rule of law, the constitution and democracy, all selfishly in pursuant of the grift, for the almighty dollar.
AND there it is, the nihilist cult, that is the inevitable future of the QAnon/MAGA/Repub Party, in a nutshell. (Note: Yes, Repub "caucus" is a play/pun on the word "carcass")And unfortunately another part of his legacy will be that we will never see an uncontested election again. Every other defeated president left the office with grace and dignity. Donald is still acting like the narcissistic sociopath he is. He really has made it all about him and not about the country.
Elvis 2008
01-03-24, 18:46
No, there is no evidence that Joe Biden "committed the same crime" as Trump committed or in fact any crime at all regarding classified documents or anything else. See how that works?Nope, they both had classified documents where they were not supposed to be. That is the crime. You just bought Biden's bullshit that he didn't knowingly take them when you do not know if he did.
What you are so dumb about though is the average person breaks three laws a day. It is arrogant beyond belief then for you to say one man is innocent and another is guilty without a trial. Prosecutors make decisions about what laws to enforce and they should be apolitical, and we are seeing clearly they are not.
Trump, Hiliary, Mike Pence, and Joe Biden all had classified documents in locations that were not secure, and Trump had the ability to declassify all that he wanted to unlike the other three. Still, that is not the problem.
The issue is not a legal one but a customary one. It is customary to understand that an ex-president has more classified information in his head than ever could be put on paper, and you treat him differently because of that. You should tread even more lightly when he is a likely political opponent. Legally, you can send in a SWAT team to get documents. Hell, a prosecutor could have asked a judge to approve a warrant doing that with any of the pols, and these fucking judges rarely say no especially if you pick the right one. The issue is not legal but the optics. This is more banana republic shit, and you are cheering it on.
You seem to forget the photo of Elian Gonzalez and some federal thug pointing a machine gun at the head of a relative of Elian Gonzalez. Without that photo, Gore probably wins in 2000.
And you guys and your gun control. Yeesh.
Elvis 2008
01-03-24, 19:12
And unfortunately another part of his legacy will be that we will never see an uncontested election again. Every other defeated president left the office with grace and dignity.Did JFK leave with grace and dignity? Maybe you buy that bullshit about a lone gunman but when JFK went against the CIA and military industrial complex Ike talked about in his infamous farewell speech, the fact is he wound up dead. The CIA and FBI literally cooked up the term "conspiracy theorist" to use against people who did not buy the government's bullshit explanation.
Donald is still acting like the narcissistic sociopath he is. He really has made it all about him and not about the country.I am sorry. I must have missed the #3 guy at the FBI using a phone at taxpayer expense to tell his FBI lover lawyer friend that they were going to stop Trump. He was impeached over a document that was made up and then over a phone call. Then you had Chuck Schumer telling Trump intelligence agencies could get him six ways to Sunday if he went after them.
So when you say Trump has made it all about him, do you mean that the people who voted for him to do not count? Or are they so stupid they do not count?
And when you mean country, do you mean the American people or do you mean the CIA, FBI, and military industrial complex?
In 2016, Hiliary lost because the idiot James Comey wanted to play like the FBI was being fair after letting Hiliary off the hook. He was so sure that she would win he announced a few days before the election she was under investigation. Obviously, it did not work out that one. The bullshit claim that Putin rigged the election and not the FBI was a joke in Republican circles but Dems bought it hook, line, and sinker.
And now here we are in 2024. Trump has a million indictments against him, and he is leading in the polls. And you think this incredible shift in public perception of government institutions all happened because of Trump? Unreal. It is like you Democratic douches are pretending like Russiagate and Ukrainegate and all the government sponsored censorship used and still being used to target Republicans never happened.
MarquisdeSade1
01-03-24, 20:30
"No you'd be flat out wrong!
Projecting (and hypocrisy) is something the you and your fellow Republican cohorts do very well. In fact, projecting (and hypocrisy) is something the Repubs have cornered the market on and have about a 90% share, when is comes to projecting (and hypocrisy).
Take the recent case of the"hypocrite / projecting" Florida Republican Zielgers, who knowingly were engaging in LGBTQ sex, threesomes and hell-knows, what other sexual depravity they were being hypocrites about, behind closed-doors? Meanwhile in public, they hypocritically called for LGBTQ book bans and blatantly, harmfully and willfully trampled, crushed and devastated the lives of LGBTQ students.
Perhaps that question is best answered, if you, MDS1, ask the very same question, while looking in the mirror?
Just remember to substitute "MSNBC" for any one of the number of the right-wing media frauds that you love so much. You know? The ones that lie to you, spread misinformation, ask you to send them money, have $787 million dollar defamation lawsuit for lying to Americans and yet another 30 or more lawsuits, for sexual harassment, wrongful termination, libel, slander and other defamation lawsuits. Yeah, those bogus right-wing media outlets!
Well, as for the rest of your post. That's just more 90% Republican PROJECTING again!
Please specify where I mentioned race / color in my post? That is your "hang-up", NOT mine!
No need to"pull the race card" just yet (save that trick for another day), as race was neither explicitly nor implicitly implied, in my post.
As for Ginni Thomas, I said, "beast of a wife" simultaneously referring to her figuratively and literally, w / are to her political and dietary.
But it is funny though, as you on the other hand, refer to her as ". A nasty beast. "Please tell me, how exactly is it, you think Ginni Thomas, is "a nasty beast"?
FYI, today's usage of the word, "beast", is more often than not, seen and used positively.
For example:
-Four straight in-depth and poignant posts, that address and rebut MAGA Repub nonsense, has put me in "beast mode".
-Ginni Thomas is a beast, when it comes to her position on her J6 insurrection involvement. ".
You're like trying to debate a 5 year old!
NO I'm NOT BUT YOU are.
Just save time and cut and paste that in all your replies LMFAO.
MarquisdeSade1
01-03-24, 20:33
"Did JFK leave with grace and dignity? Maybe you buy that bullshit about a lone gunman but when JFK went against the CIA and military industrial complex Ike talked about in his infamous farewell speech, the fact is he wound up dead. The CIA and FBI literally cooked up the term "conspiracy theorist" to use against people who did not buy the government's bullshit explanation.
I am sorry. I must have missed the #3 guy at the FBI using a phone at taxpayer expense to tell his FBI lover lawyer friend that they were going to stop Trump. He was impeached over a document that was made up and then over a phone call. Then you had Chuck Schumer telling Trump intelligence agencies could get him six ways to Sunday if he went after them.
So when you say Trump has made it all about him, do you mean that the people who voted for him to do not count? Or are they so stupid they do not count?
And when you mean country, do you mean the American people or do you mean the CIA, FBI, and military industrial complex?
In 2016, Hiliary lost because the idiot James Comey wanted to play like the FBI was being fair after letting Hiliary off the hook. He was so sure that she would win he announced a few days before the election she was under investigation. Obviously, it did not work out that one. The bullshit claim that Putin rigged the election and not the FBI was a joke in Republican circles but Dems bought it hook, line, and sinker.
And now here we are in 2024. Trump has a million indictments against him, and he is leading in the polls. And you think this incredible shift in public perception of government institutions all happened because of Trump? Unreal. It is like you Democratic douches are pretending like Russiagate and Ukrainegate and all the government sponsored censorship used and still being used to target Republicans never happened. "
Nope, they both had classified documents where they were not supposed to be. That is the crime. You just bought Biden's bullshit that he didn't knowingly take them when you do not know if he did.
What you are so dumb about though is the average person breaks three laws a day. It is arrogant beyond belief then for you to say one man is innocent and another is guilty without a trial. Prosecutors make decisions about what laws to enforce and they should be apolitical, and we are seeing clearly they are not.
Trump, Hiliary, Mike Pence, and Joe Biden all had classified documents in locations that were not secure, and Trump had the ability to declassify all that he wanted to unlike the other three. Still, that is not the problem.
The issue is not a legal one but a customary one. It is customary to understand that an ex-president has more classified information in his head than ever could be put on paper, and you treat him differently because of that. You should tread even more lightly when he is a likely political opponent. Legally, you can send in a SWAT team to get documents. Hell, a prosecutor could have asked a judge to approve a warrant doing that with any of the pols, and these fucking judges rarely say no especially if you pick the right one. The issue is not legal but the optics. This is more banana republic shit, and you are cheering it on..I see my effort to highlight and provide exact definitions for the words and terms in the law in order to prevent a Twisty McPretzel Winger from rewriting the law to serve his criminal Master was for naught.
Merely "having" classified documents in a storage box is not a crime. That is why they don't use the word "had" as a point in the law. The word "retain" is the one they use and for a reason. "Retaining" them (please see the extensive definition of the word I provided previously) despite a request by the National Archives and an issued subpoena to return them was the crime Trump committed but Biden did not. And neither did Obama, Clinton or anyone else who left the Executive Branch with dozens of boxes full of thousands of documents packed by staffers, a tiny portion of which might have turned out to have still been classified. For them, no crime. For Trump, crime.
No doubt about it. You would zoom to the top of Trump's or any Repub's list of candidates for Attorney General in their Administration if only they could read just the post I quoted of yours this time.
MarquisdeSade1
01-04-24, 03:56
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2024/01/02/chinese-state-media-fret-over-rise-far-right-politics-2024/
The CCP hates MAGA but I'm sure they still love their cheap Scumbag Joe and the Junkie.
Elvis 2008
01-04-24, 17:45
Merely "having" classified documents in a storage box is not a crime.Yes, it is.
The word "retain" is the one they use and for a reason. "Retaining" them (please see the extensive definition of the word I provided previously) despite a request by the National Archives and an issued subpoena to return them was the crime Trump committed but Biden did not.OMG. Thank you for explaining why I am voting for Trump. We already established that crazy libtards like you Tooms do not care about the vote like with impeachment or with the Supreme Court vote on abortion. Now, we have established that there does not need to be an indictment, a gathering of evidence, a trial with testimony, and a conviction when it comes to Republicans. Trump broke the law and is guilty.
Then you go into your Clntonian pretzel mode with what the definition of is is. The difference between retain and have? Remember the last time you tried this shit? Yeah, Clinton said he did not have sex with that woman. Yeah, oral sex does not count as real sex the same way as retain and have are different too. How did that sex explanation go over?
"Retaining" them (please see the extensive definition of the word I provided previously) despite a request by the National Archives and an issued subpoena to return them was the crimeYou have the right to not comply with a subpoena, and the government has the right to take it to a judge and turn it into a warrant. Now, you are literally making shit up but what else is new?
but Biden did not.And who issued the subpoena? I do not recall that at all. The Biden administration issued a subpoena with Biden? LOL. Uh, okay. Maybe it did happen, but that is like me issuing a subpoena on myself.
Here is how it is supposed to work. Government issues a subpoena. You can comply with it or not. You do not have to even tell the government anything. If you do not comply with it, the government has the right to take you to court in which case a judge can convert in it to a warrant. The judge has the right to hold a hearing and discuss the subpoena or just sign off on it and turn it into a warrant. The 4th Amendment dictates that the warrant must "particularly describe the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. " In layman's terms, it has to be limited to time, place, and scope. That is why it was so ridiculous when the FBI went into Melania's closet. Legal? Yes. Ridiculous? Absolutely.
Here is the part you are missing, Mr. Pretzel. There was no hearing. No, the judge was told that Trump might steal or hide the documents and turned the subpoena into a a warrant. If the judge has a hearing and makes a decision, it can be over turned by an appeals court or even the Supreme Court. If the goal were truly getting the documents, that is what should have happened.
The subpoena is sealed. The rationale for seizing the documents is sealed. There is probably some idiotic comment that Trump was going to destroy documents if the subpoena was not enforced to justify not having a hearing. But what was shown? Oh yeah, the media plasters the photo of all the classified documents in Trump's home. Legal? Yes, but the optics are terrible.
When Edward Snowden was stuck in Hong Kong, he said the government would never let him stand trial in a regular courtroom. He said they would use some law from hundreds of years ago and lock him away and if he got a trial, it would be unfair. Snowden was willing to return to the USA and stand trial with a citizen jury. He was charged under the Espionage Act and was slated to face a military tribunal if he returned to the USA. IOW, he was totally right.
And now what are we seeing? Trump is disqualified on a law made up to keep confederates off the ballot. And Biden wanted General Flynn prosecuted under a law from the 1780's. FARA, another law never used before, was used to go after Manafort. And we saw the same bullshit tactics with Roger Stone.
So is this about breaking the law or is this a political conviction? Well, the public made up its mind once it was found Biden had classified documents in his garage. You Democratic douches can give your patronizing diatribes about how it is different, but the only one listening to you is your fellow douches.
The icing on the cake was the video I linked where the prosecutor is pushing like hell to have a trial before the election, and we keep seeing this. A huge part of the legal system is hell bent on not letting the American people vote for Trump by finding Trump guilty of a crime any crime. And when getting an actual conviction seemed more and more unlikely, they pulled the 14th Amendment crap.
So spare me this nonsense about the law. It is about the fact that you all are scared shitless that Trump might win again. At this point, a vote for Trump is a vote against the deep state that wants to take the choice of president away from the American people.
Instead of making better arguments, Democratic douches want to censor people. Instead of winning at the ballot box, you all scour every legal source to disqualify someone. You douches literally do not want the vote to count if Republicans win and want one party rule. You want a dictatorship run by Democrats.
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2024/01/02/chinese-state-media-fret-over-rise-far-right-politics-2024/
The CCP hates MAGA but I'm sure they still love their cheap Scumbag Joe and the Junkie.Obviously, CCP knows about and is banking on anti-CCP sentiment to ensure that comment will be an incentive for dumb Repub hillbillies to vote for "Make sure I win" Trump and other Repubs.
Seriously, when our intel agencies discover evidence that Russia, China and any other adversaries and enemies of America are interfering and tampering with America's elections, is there any reason to waste so much as 1 minute wondering which side they were hoping would benefit from it? Lolol. It sure as hell isn't going to be Joe Biden and the Dems. LOL. And it sure as hell wasn't Hillary Clinton.
Oh, lookie lookie here! Isn't this what ChristoFacist Mike and his Pink Tinkle House Repubs are trying to find a way to Impeach President Hunter Biden for while they do fuck all nothing about Comprehensive Immigration Reform and lick their chops over the prospects of still another Ecomomy-Damaging Repub brinkmanship threat of a government shut-down?
Yep, no surprise. It turns out China / CCP was Trump's biggest graft, pay-offs and bribery source during his so-called presidency:
Trumps Businesses Got Millions From Foreign Governments While He Was President.
Democrats say Trump violated Constitution by accepting at least $7.8 million from China, Saudi Arabia and other countries for leases and hotel stays.
Jan. 4, 2024
https://www.wsj.com/politics/china-saudi-arabia-top-list-of-foreign-governments-that-spent-millions-at-trump-properties-during-his-presidency-277317cb
WASHINGTONChina and Saudi Arabia topped a list of 20 countries whose governments or state-linked entities pumped millions of dollars into Donald Trumps properties while he was president, according to a new report and previously undisclosed records that shed light on Trumps potential business conflicts as he seeks a second term.
MarquisdeSade1
01-04-24, 22:49
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2024/01/04/john-lennons-son-rebrands-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-as-dumb-evil-idiots/
MarquisdeSade1
01-05-24, 01:54
"And this from Mr. Rule of Law guy. Trump and Biden broke the same law, and you are in no position of knowing who is telling the truth about what happened or which one is lying. What is fact is that they both broke the same law and Trump's documents were taken by machine gun and Biden's were not.
And you are such a narcissist you think it could not happen to you. Yes, Mr. Rule of Law, Trump can offer up a subpoena for millions of documents, some of which you do not have, and when you do not produce them, order a SWAT team in to go raid your residence. You opened up that Pandora's box. No federal judge is going to protect you after this fiasco.
I could not be more happy to be more wrong, Spidy. Now that you douches are saying it is legal to kick people out of office for just the appearance of being in an insurrection, we can kick out of office anyone associated with the 2020 steal, the future 2024 steal, and anyone involved in the BLM riots or with BLM period. We do not need a trial. We just need the videotape and we can start ignoring the will of the people and election results too.
Thing that gets me is the Democrats pull their douche shit first, and Republicans hit back 10 X harder. What gets me with you and Tooms Spidy is you are literally cheering on disregarding the vote / will of the people and literally cheering on the weaponization of the legal system. You are cheering on verdicts without trials, criminal prosecutions for political purposes, and votes not counting. You are literally tearing up Democracy because you want one party rule. There is no arguing with you two. There is just defeating you.
Now that we know beyond a doubt that is what you Dems really want, one party rule by any means possible, we are going to do all we can to make sure the one party in power is ours.
I keep waiting for one of you to say, "Hey, this is too much", but now I see there is nothing you would not do to win. ".
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/01/officials-now-admit-the-disaster-of-their-covid-policies/
Yes, it is.
OMG. Thank you for explaining why I am voting for Trump. We already established that crazy libtards like you Tooms do not care about the vote like with impeachment or with the Supreme Court vote on abortion. Now, we have established that there does not need to be an indictment, a gathering of evidence, a trial with testimony, and a conviction when it comes to Republicans. Trump broke the law and is guilty.
Then you go into your Clntonian pretzel mode with what the definition of is is. The difference between retain and have? Remember the last time you tried this shit? Yeah, Clinton said he did not have sex with that woman. Yeah, oral sex does not count as real sex the same way as retain and have are different too. How did that sex explanation go over?
You have the right to not comply with a subpoena, and the government has the right to take it to a judge and turn it into a warrant. Now, you are literally making shit up but what else is new?
And who issued the subpoena? I do not recall that at all. The Biden administration issued a subpoena with Biden? LOL. Uh, okay. Maybe it did happen, but that is like me issuing a subpoena on myself.
Here is how it is supposed to work. Government issues a subpoena. You can comply with it or not. You do not have to even tell the government anything. If you do not comply with it, the government has the right to take you to court in which case a judge can convert in it to a warrant. The judge has the right to hold a hearing and discuss the subpoena or just sign off on it and turn it into a warrant. The 4th Amendment dictates that the warrant must "particularly describe the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. " In layman's terms, it has to be limited to time, place, and scope. That is why it was so ridiculous when the FBI went into Melania's closet. Legal? Yes. Ridiculous? Absolutely.
Here is the part you are missing, Mr. Pretzel. There was no hearing. No, the judge was told that Trump might steal or hide the documents and turned the subpoena into a a warrant. If the judge has a hearing and makes a decision, it can be over turned by an appeals court or even the Supreme Court. If the goal were truly getting the documents, that is what should have happened.
The subpoena is sealed. The rationale for seizing the documents is sealed. There is probably some idiotic comment that Trump was going to destroy documents if the subpoena was not enforced to justify not having a hearing. But what was shown? Oh yeah, the media plasters the photo of all the classified documents in Trump's home. Legal? Yes, but the optics are terrible.
When Edward Snowden was stuck in Hong Kong, he said the government would never let him stand trial in a regular courtroom. He said they would use some law from hundreds of years ago and lock him away and if he got a trial, it would be unfair. Snowden was willing to return to the USA and stand trial with a citizen jury. He was charged under the Espionage Act and was slated to face a military tribunal if he returned to the USA. IOW, he was totally right.
And now what are we seeing? Trump is disqualified on a law made up to keep confederates off the ballot. And Biden wanted General Flynn prosecuted under a law from the 1780's. FARA, another law never used before, was used to go after Manafort. And we saw the same bullshit tactics with Roger Stone.
So is this about breaking the law or is this a political conviction? Well, the public made up its mind once it was found Biden had classified documents in his garage. You Democratic douches can give your patronizing diatribes about how it is different, but the only one listening to you is your fellow douches.
The icing on the cake was the video I linked where the prosecutor is pushing like hell to have a trial before the election, and we keep seeing this. A huge part of the legal system is hell bent on not letting the American people vote for Trump by finding Trump guilty of a crime any crime. And when getting an actual conviction seemed more and more unlikely, they pulled the 14th Amendment crap.
So spare me this nonsense about the law. It is about the fact that you all are scared shitless that Trump might win again. At this point, a vote for Trump is a vote against the deep state that wants to take the choice of president away from the American people.
Instead of making better arguments, Democratic douches want to censor people. Instead of winning at the ballot box, you all scour every legal source to disqualify someone. You douches literally do not want the vote to count if Republicans win and want one party rule. You want a dictatorship run by Democrats.Ah, again what a luxury it must be for Winger Repubs who pull stuff out of their butts, proudly display it for the world to see and then think they proved their point.
Please provide a link to the text of the law on classified documents showing that merely "having" them in a storage box is a crime, totally absent from an unprovable state of mind by the owner of those boxes when they were put there (that would be the KNOWINGLY thingy) or the effort to keep them despite an authoritative request to return them (that would be the RETAIN thingy).
That's all. I don't need more from you for now. I am all laughed out by the image of you being so twisted in knots trying to deal with it you are actually staring at your own bunghole within an inch of your nose with your feet covering your ears.
"And this from Mr. Rule of Law guy. Trump and Biden broke the same law, and you are in no position of knowing who is telling the truth about what happened or which one is lying. What is fact is that they both broke the same law and Trump's documents were taken by machine gun and Biden's were not.
And you are such a narcissist you think it could not happen to you. Yes, Mr. Rule of Law, Trump can offer up a subpoena for millions of documents, some of which you do not have, and when you do not produce them, order a SWAT team in to go raid your residence. You opened up that Pandora's box. No federal judge is going to protect you after this fiasco.
I could not be more happy to be more wrong, Spidy. Now that you douches are saying it is legal to kick people out of office for just the appearance of being in an insurrection, we can kick out of office anyone associated with the 2020 steal, the future 2024 steal, and anyone involved in the BLM riots or with BLM period. We do not need a trial. We just need the videotape and we can start ignoring the will of the people and election results too.
Thing that gets me is the Democrats pull their douche shit first, and Republicans hit back 10 X harder. What gets me with you and Tooms Spidy is you are literally cheering on disregarding the vote / will of the people and literally cheering on the weaponization of the legal system. You are cheering on verdicts without trials, criminal prosecutions for political purposes, and votes not counting. You are literally tearing up Democracy because you want one party rule. There is no arguing with you two. There is just defeating you.
Now that we know beyond a doubt that is what you Dems really want, one party rule by any means possible, we are going to do all we can to make sure the one party in power is ours.
I keep waiting for one of you to say, "Hey, this is too much", but now I see there is nothing you would not do to win. ".
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/01/officials-now-admit-the-disaster-of-their-covid-policies/From your silly link:
"the main responsibility of the public-health system in a pandemic is to keep people calm and society functioning. ".
The calm part makes no sense if the only way to ensure a functioning society in the face of the kind of rapid infection, airborne virus Pandemic that Trump's economic and national security policies, decisions and stewardship in 2018,2019 and 2020 produced was to Flatten The Curve of infections that required hospitalization and direct medical care by employing known mitigation measures such as social distancing, mask-wearing and closures.
In countries like the USA where the Repub-preferred Healthcare For Profit system meant hospitals were not fully funded by the government and set up to have unlimited rooms and staff sitting empty and idle for years at a time until the next numbskull Repub produces another "Once in 100 Years Disaster" regarding viral contagion and then they would miraculously spring up into existance and into action to deal with it, that is.
Even numbskull Repub Trump eventually had to propose closures when he saw his beloved stock market crashing in response to all of his American Mass Murder victim bodies piling up because, see, even if only the old, fat and pre-condition Repubs in the country got infected unknowingly by young, slim, healthy Dem carriers and then they flooded the hospitals all at once, every one of them requiring a private room (that airborne thingy, you know), the Curve would have spiked so high for so long even those young, slim, healthy Dems who got into a motorcycle accident, a car accident, got food poisoning, a factory accident and so on could not be seen and treated.
Sorry, but Trump's Pandemic was one of those "Once in 100 Years Disasters" that only find a way to happen under Repubs and never under Dems that required the kind of mask, distancing and closure mandates that were imposed in order to keep Trump's American Mass Murder victim numbers down to only about 1 million over the following couple of years rather than 3-4 Million.
You're like trying to debate a 5 year old!Absolutely and without a doubt, I guess that would make YOU the 5 yr old toddler. Or at the very least, the one with a mindset of a 5 yrs old toddler (...kkkk!).
NO I'm NOT BUT YOU are.
Just save time and cut and paste that in all your replies LMFAO. And right on queue and true to form, you deliver a response, that's commensurate with a kindergarten 5 yr old toddler.
And yet still, you DID NOT refute, rebut or disprove the veracity of my arguments w/r to Repubs, being the real offenders, when it comes to the use of projection and hypocrisy.
Projection much, Republicans?
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/13/2045204/-Projection-much-Republicans
BTW, I answered your questions, but you still haven't answered my simple question, like a "grown-up", when I asked about your use of the description, "...a nasty beast..."? when describing your fav. right-wing Repub insurrectionist, SCOTUS' wife, Ginni Thomas.
MarquisdeSade1
01-05-24, 12:02
"And this from Mr. Rule of Law guy. Trump and Biden broke the same law, and you are in no position of knowing who is telling the truth about what happened or which one is lying. What is fact is that they both broke the same law and Trump's documents were taken by machine gun and Biden's were not.
And you are such a narcissist you think it could not happen to you. Yes, Mr. Rule of Law, Trump can offer up a subpoena for millions of documents, some of which you do not have, and when you do not produce them, order a SWAT team in to go raid your residence. You opened up that Pandora's box. No federal judge is going to protect you after this fiasco.
I could not be more happy to be more wrong, Spidy. Now that you douches are saying it is legal to kick people out of office for just the appearance of being in an insurrection, we can kick out of office anyone associated with the 2020 steal, the future 2024 steal, and anyone involved in the BLM riots or with BLM period. We do not need a trial. We just need the videotape and we can start ignoring the will of the people and election results too.
Thing that gets me is the Democrats pull their douche shit first, and Republicans hit back 10 X harder. What gets me with you and Tooms Spidy is you are literally cheering on disregarding the vote / will of the people and literally cheering on the weaponization of the legal system. You are cheering on verdicts without trials, criminal prosecutions for political purposes, and votes not counting. You are literally tearing up Democracy because you want one party rule. There is no arguing with you two. There is just defeating you.
Now that we know beyond a doubt that is what you Dems really want, one party rule by any means possible, we are going to do all we can to make sure the one party in power is ours.
I keep waiting for one of you to say, "Hey, this is too much", but now I see there is nothing you would not do to win. ".
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/01/officials-now-admit-the-disaster-of-their-covid-policies/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/01/the-left-cant-handle-a-trump-victory/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=second
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/12/francis-collinss-covid-confession/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=hero&utm_content=related&utm_term=first
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/12/the-covid-reckoning-america-needs/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=hero&utm_content=related&utm_term=second
This is so typical of Repubs. They don't know how to govern. They don't want to learn how to govern. They don't want to govern. But they constantly whine and whine and whine that the Dems are not taking care of every colossal disaster they (the Repubs) create. Consequently, their only solution for keeping a pretty sweet job with fantastic benefits is to lie, cheat, steal and con the American electorate into voting against their and the country's best interests over and over again.
That is what they do. That is ALL they do.
It has been a total mystery why anyone has ever voted for so much as one of these Repub numbskull deadbeats since at least the middle of Reagan's first disastrous term as so-called potus.
House Republican Admits He Wont Back Border Bill Because It Could Help Biden.
Secure the border! (they scream and whine), unless it helps Bidens poll numbers.
Jan. 5, 2024
https://newrepublic.com/post/177876/house-republican-admits-wont-back-border-bill-help-biden
Elvis 2008
01-05-24, 23:39
Ah, again what a luxury it must be for Winger Repubs who pull stuff out of their butts, proudly display it for the world to see and then think they proved their point.
Please provide a link to the text of the law on classified documents showing that merely "having" them in a storage box is a crime, totally absent from an unprovable state of mind by the owner of those You want me to provide you a link that keeping top secret documents in your garage is legal? Maybe this is a rhetorical question, but are you out of your friggin' mind?
And unfortunately another part of his legacy will be that we will never see an uncontested election again. Every other defeated president left the office with grace and dignity. Donald is still acting like the narcissistic sociopath he is. He really has made it all about him and not about the country.You are absolutely right and you give an excellent synopsis of the failed administration of the 45th!
Yes, it was a TOXIC administration and his TOXIC LEGACY, leaves behind a tribalistic, distrustful, and oftentimes very delusional right-wing Republican political culture, that worships at the altar of the "big-lie". And as you've aptly stated "we will never see an uncontested election again".
The TOXIC "big-lie", found its way around the world and all the way to Brazil, with the Trumpster wanna be and copycat, Jair Bolsonaro, or as the Brazilian people fondly called him, Pres. Bozo ("the clown"). I bring this up to say, the Brazilians, swiftly dealt with their insurrectionist president, within six (6) months, by barring Pres. Bozo, from office for 10 years, under their constitutional laws.
It is very clear (IMHO), under Section #3 of the 14th Amendment, the 45th is disqualified. So just like Brazil we need to bring the hammer down on our insurrectionists and follow suit...SWIFTLY!
For me his TOXIC legacy, is really quite simple. It is having been the worst American President...EVER, in US history! BAR NONE! How's that for legacy?
MarquisdeSade1
01-06-24, 08:31
"And this from Mr. Rule of Law guy. Trump and Biden broke the same law, and you are in no position of knowing who is telling the truth about what happened or which one is lying. What is fact is that they both broke the same law and Trump's documents were taken by machine gun and Biden's were not.
And you are such a narcissist you think it could not happen to you. Yes, Mr. Rule of Law, Trump can offer up a subpoena for millions of documents, some of which you do not have, and when you do not produce them, order a SWAT team in to go raid your residence. You opened up that Pandora's box. No federal judge is going to protect you after this fiasco.
I could not be more happy to be more wrong, Spidy. Now that you douches are saying it is legal to kick people out of office for just the appearance of being in an insurrection, we can kick out of office anyone associated with the 2020 steal, the future 2024 steal, and anyone involved in the BLM riots or with BLM period. We do not need a trial. We just need the videotape and we can start ignoring the will of the people and election results too.
Thing that gets me is the Democrats pull their douche shit first, and Republicans hit back 10 X harder. What gets me with you and Tooms Spidy is you are literally cheering on disregarding the vote / will of the people and literally cheering on the weaponization of the legal system. You are cheering on verdicts without trials, criminal prosecutions for political purposes, and votes not counting. You are literally tearing up Democracy because you want one party rule. There is no arguing with you two. There is just defeating you.
Now that we know beyond a doubt that is what you Dems really want, one party rule by any means possible, we are going to do all we can to make sure the one party in power is ours.
I keep waiting for one of you to say, "Hey, this is too much", but now I see there is nothing you would not do to win. ".
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/01/officials-now-admit-the-disaster-of-their-covid-policies/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/01/the-left-cant-handle-a-trump-victory/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=second
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/12/francis-collinss-covid-confession/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=hero&utm_content=related&utm_term=first
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/12/the-covid-reckoning-america-needs/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=hero&utm_content=related&utm_term=second".
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/world/asia/bangladesh-election.html
A One-Sided Affair as Bangladesh's Ailing Democracy Goes to the Polls.
Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina is expected to roll to a fourth consecutive term as the gutted opposition boycotts what it calls an unfair election.
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Election campaign posters hanging over a street, in Dhaka, Bangladesh, on Thursday. Credit. Adnan Abidi / Reuters.
By Mujib Mashal and Saif Hasnat.
Reporting from New Delhi and Dhaka, Bangladesh.
Published Jan. 5, 2024.
Updated Jan. 6, 2024,12:38 am ET.
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There is little doubt that Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina will seize a fourth consecutive term when Bangladesh goes to the polls on Sunday. The bigger question is what will remain of the country's democracy.
The main opposition party, the Bangladesh Nationalist Party, has been crushed and left with little mobilizing capacity. Its leaders who are not already in jail are bogged down with endless court appointments or are in hiding with the police on their tail. Ms. Hasina's Awami League, in power since 2009, has cleared the way for a race so one-sided that the party urged its own contestants to prop up dummy candidates so it does not look as if they won unchallenged.
The be. And. P. Has boycotted the vote, after Ms. Hasina rejected its demand that she step aside during the campaign period so the election could be held under a neutral administration. Even as Bangladesh has appeared to be finding a path to prosperity and shedding a legacy of coups and assassinations, the uncontested election shows how politics in this country of 170 million remains hostage to decades of bad blood between the two major parties.
The possibility of violence hangs in the air. The opposition's effort to protest the vote, with repeated calls for nationwide strikes and civil disobedience, has been met with an intensified crackdown. More than 20,000 be. And. P. Members and leaders have been arrested since the party's last major rally, in October, according to party leaders and lawyers.
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Diplomats in Dhaka said they had received reports of appalling conditions inside overcrowded prisons. At least nine opposition leaders and members have died in jail since the Oct. 28 crackdown, according to human rights organizations and reports in local news media.
As the be. And. P. Has issued another call for a national strike, this one on the eve of the election, security has been increased, with the army deployed in the capital, Dhaka, and other regions.
Late Friday on a train in Dhaka, a fire suspected to be arson killed at least four people, security officials said. Tensions seemed only to escalate as security officials, indirectly, and ruling party members, very directly, blamed the be. And. P. For the blaze that left at least four train cars burned and took an hour to extinguish.
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A soldier in uniform runs out of a bus, gun at his side, and into the street, as another soldier stands beside the bus.
Bangladeshi soldiers were deployed on streets as part of enhanced security measures ahead of Sunday's parliamentary elections. Credit. Mahmud Hossain Opu / Associated Press.
"There is a risk of increased violence after the polls, from both sides," said Pierre Prakash, the Asia director for the International Crisis Group. "If the be. And. P. Feels the largely nonviolent strategy it deployed in the run-up to the 2024 election has failed, leaders could come under pressure to revert to the more overt violence of the past. ".
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And if the be. And. P. Does resort to widespread violence, Mr. Prakash said, it will be walking right into a trap. Ms. Hasina's party has been laying the groundwork for an even wider crackdown as it pushes a narrative that the opposition is filled with "terrorists" and "killers. ".
During Ms. Hasina's 15-year rule, her second stint in power, the country has been a paradox of sorts.
As investments in the garment export industry began paying off, the economy experienced such impressive growth that average income levels at one point surpassed India's. Bangladesh has also shown major strides in other development areas, from education and health to female participation in the labor force and preparedness against climate disasters.
But all along, critics say, Ms. Hasina, 76, has tried to turn the country into a one-party state. From the security agencies to the courts, she has captured government institutions and unleashed them onto anyone who does not fall in line.
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CRUSHING A DEMOCRACYUsing the courts to paralyze Bangladesh's opposition.
In the latest example, the Nobel Peace Prize laureate Muhammad Yunus was given a six-month jail sentence in what he has described as a political vendetta. Mr. Yunus is out on bail and appealing the verdict in a case that government officials say is not political and involves violations of labor laws.
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Ms. Hasina's drive to dismantle the be. And. P. Often appears to be a personal campaign of vengeance.
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Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina addressing a campaign rally in December. Credit. -/ Agence France-Presse — Getty Images.
For most of the time since Bangladesh's creation in 1971 — when it separated from Pakistan after a bloody campaign of cultural oppression against Bengalis — the country has been ruled by the two parties.
The Awami League was the party of Ms. Hasina's father, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, the country's independence leader and founding president. After he set out on a campaign to centralize power, he was killed in a military coup that also left much of his young family dead.
The be. And. P. Was formed by Gen. Ziaur Rahman, the army chief who rose to power after a bloody phase of coups and counter-coups in the wake of Sheikh Mujib's assassination. Mr. Zia, as he was known, was also later killed in a military coup.
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While Ms. Hasina sees the be. And. P. As the creation of the same military cadre that protected her father's killers, her drive to destroy the party is even more personal, her aides say. When the be. And. P. , led by Mr. Zia's widow, Khaleda Zia, was in power in the early 2000's, one of Ms. Hasina's rallies as an opposition leader was attacked by dozens of grenades. She survived a close call, but more than 20 of her party's leaders and supporters were killed.
Over the past couple of years, Ms. Hasina's crackdown has become particularly severe as the sheen from the story of economic progress has worn off.
The successive blows of the pandemic and the Ukraine war, which pushed up fuel and food prices, have shrunk Bangladesh's foreign reserves to dangerous lows. The crisis has exposed not only Bangladesh's overreliance on the garment industry, but also what Western diplomats in Dhaka say are kleptocratic practices hidden beneath the country's economic growth.
The ruling elite, diplomats say, tap into banks and the nation's riches with little accountability. With about 60 percent of Parliament made up of businesspeople, economic interests and political power have become deeply intertwined, impeding economic reform, analysts say.
The opposition tried to capitalize on public anger over rising prices, holding its first large rallies in years. But its momentum was short-lived, as the government's crackdown deepened.
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Supporters of the opposition Bangladesh Nationalist Party in Dhaka in July. Credit. Atul Loke for The New York Times.
The be. And. P. Says its demand for an election under a neutral caretaker was nothing new — Ms. Hasina called for the same when she was in the opposition, and she came to power in an election administered by a caretaker government. Bangladesh's institutions are so vulnerable to abuse by the ruling party that no opposition has won election when the vote was not held under a caretaker.
But Ms. Hasina considers the be. And. P. 's demand to be a violation of the constitution — because, after she came to power, she amended the charter to declare the practice illegal and a disruption to the democratic cycle.
Seeking to avoid a repeat of the 2014 vote, in which Ms. Hasina's party won more than half of the seats uncontested, the Awami League has been pointing to the smaller parties that are still contesting this year's election. But analysts say the party has engineered a new token opposition. Some of these candidates made clear on campaign posters where they stood: "Supported by the Awami League. ".
The be. And. P. 's leader, Ms. Zia, a former prime minister, remains under house arrest. Her son, the party's acting chairman, is in exile in London. Much of the party's leadership is in jail.
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In the weeks leading up to Sunday's vote, the party's visibility was largely reduced to virtual news conferences by Ruhul Kabir Rizvi, one of the few senior be. And. P. Leaders not in jail.
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Ruhul Kabir Rizvi, the senior joint secretary general of the be. And. P. , in his party office in June. Credit. Atul Loke for The New York Times.
Mr. Rizvi himself faces 180 court cases, and for months at a time he remained locked up in his office, sleeping in a small corner bed, as he risked arrest if he ventured out. He walks with a cane because of a bullet wound he received while protesting a military dictator in the late 1980's.
"We and other like-minded parties have boycotted this election," Mr. Rizvi said in a virtual news conference on Thursday, announcing a new strike to begin on Saturday. "The political parties and the people of the country have already understood that this election is going to be a rehearsal of the anarchy of Awami League. It's going to be a one-sided election. ".
Obaidul Quader, general secretary of the Awami League, said it regretted the main opposition's absence.
"Had be. And. P. Been there," he added, "the election would have been more competitive. ".
Mujib Mashal is the South Asia bureau chief for The Times, helping to lead coverage of India and the diverse region around it, including Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal and Bhutan. More about Mujib Mashal.
You want me to provide you a link that keeping top secret documents in your garage is legal? Maybe this is a rhetorical question, but are you out of your friggin' mind?Ah, NOW you're inching your way up to it.
KEEPING top secret documents in your garage, bathroom, broom closet, etc despite a National Archives request to return them to their rightful owners, otherwise known as RETAINING them, is illegal. No need to provide a link for that. We all know that already. Well, the rest of us do, I mean.
That is what Trump did.
That is not what Joe Biden did.
Merely being discovered "having" them in such a location because, UNKNOWINGLY to you, some of them were mixed in with fully and officially declassified documents and packed in boxes by staffers, is not illegal.
There is no way to prove that happened with either Trump or Biden. State of mind at the time of them being packed in boxes, that is.
However, Trump exhibited behavior strongly suggesting a consciousness of guilt by his instructions to move them from location to location and hide them, presumably without going through them to confirm whether they were top secret or not. You know, as though he already knew they were top secret when his staff packed them. Otherwise known as KNOWINGLY taking top secret documents to an unsafe place.
MarquisdeSade1
01-06-24, 17:50
I would warn ET to be careful what you wish for, but you haven't stpped a single toe in the USA in over a dozen plus years and never plan on doing so again.
So its all fun and games to you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/06/opinion/trump-election-2024.html
Ross Douthat.
By Ross Douthat.
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In Isaac Asimov's Foundation novels, a "psychohistorian" in a far-flung galactic empire figures out a way to predict the future so exactly that he can anticipate both the empire's fall and the way that civilization can be painstakingly rebuilt. This enables him to plan a project — the "foundation" of the title — that will long outlast his death, complete with periodic messages to his heirs that always show foreknowledge of their challenges and crises.
Until one day the foreknowledge fails, because an inherently unpredictable figure has come upon the scene — the Mule, a Napoleon of galactic politics, whose advent was hard for even a psychohistorian to see coming because he's literally a mutant, graced by some genetic twist with the power of telepathy.
Donald Trump is not a mutant telepath. (Or so I assume — fact checkers are still at work.) But the debates about how to deal with his challenge to the American political system turn, in part, on how much you think that he resembles Asimov's Mule.
Was there a more normal, conventional, stable-seeming timeline for 21st century American politics that Trump, with his unique blend of tabloid celebrity, reality-TV charisma, personal shamelessness and demagogic intuition, somehow wrenched us off?
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Or is Trump just an American expression of the trends that have revived nationalism all over the world, precisely the sort of figure a "psychohistory" of our era would have anticipated? In which case, are attempts to find some elite removal mechanism likely to just heighten the contradictions that yielded Trumpism in the first place, widening the gyre and bringing the rough beast slouching in much faster?
I have basically changed sides in this debate. Into the early part of Trump's presidency I was an apologist for elite machinations: I wanted party unity against his primary candidacy, a convention rebellion against his nomination, even a 25th Amendment option when he appeared initially overmastered by the office of the presidency.
Past a certain point, though, I became convinced that these efforts were not only vain but counterproductive. In part, this reflected strategic considerations: The plausible moment for unified intraparty resistance had passed, and the united front of elite institutions had failed spectacularly to prevent Trump from capturing the White House. In part it reflected my sense that "Resistance" politics were driving liberal institutions deep into their own kind of paranoia and conspiracism.
But above all my shift reflected a reading of our times as increasingly and ineradicably populist, permanently Trumpy in some sense, with inescapable conflicts between insider and outsider factions, institutionalists and rebels — conflicts that seemed likely to worsen the more that insider power plays cement the populist belief that the outsiders would never be allowed to truly govern.
This shift doesn't mean, however, that I am immune to the arguments that still treat Trump as unique, even Mule-ish, with a capacity for chaos unequaled by any other populist. You can see this distinctiveness in the failures of various Republican candidates who have tried to ape his style. And you can reasonably doubt that a different populist would have gone all the way to the disgrace of Jan. 6 — or inspired as many followers.
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So as much as I find the legal case for the 14th Amendment disqualification entirely unpersuasive, I can almost make myself see the return-to-normalcy future that some of its advocates seem to be imagining.
Start with a 7-to-2 decision, maybe written by Brett Kavanaugh, disqualifying Trump. Then comes a lot of ranting and rage that mostly works itself out online. Then a sense of relief among Republican officeholders who move on to a Nikki Haley vs. Ron DeSantis primary. Then various Trump-backed spoiler-ish and third-party options emerge but fizzle out. Then, quite possibly, you have a DeSantis or Haley presidency — in which partisan loyalty binds Republicans to their new leader, and an aging Trump eventually fades away.
I will concede to partisans of disqualification that such a scenario is theoretically possible. I certainly would find some versions of it eminently desirable. (My fears about a Haley presidency I will save for a future column.).
But what I would ask them in turn is whether, having lived through the last eight years of not just American but global politics, they actually find it likely that normalcy will be restored through this kind of expedient — a judicial fiat that millions of Americans will immediately regard as the most illegitimate governmental action of their lifetimes?
What odds would they give that future historians, reflecting on our republic's storms the way we now reflect on ancient Rome, will memorialize such an action as the moment when the seas began to calm?
As opposed to what seems so much more likely — that it would eventually produce some further populist escalation, every-deepening division, not peace but the sword.
I would warn ET to be careful what you wish for, but you haven't stpped a single toe in the USA in over a dozen plus years and never plan on doing so again.
So its all fun and games to you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/06/opinion/trump-election-2024.html
Ross Douthat.
By Ross Douthat.
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In Isaac Asimov's Foundation novels, a "psychohistorian" in a far-flung galactic empire figures out a way to predict the future so exactly that he can anticipate both the empire's fall and the way that civilization can be painstakingly rebuilt. This enables him to plan a project the "foundation" of the title that will long outlast his death, complete with periodic messages to his heirs that always show foreknowledge of their challenges and crises..Hardly. I still pay USA Federal Taxes, it still matters to me how the USA economy goes because I want my rental property tenants to have good jobs with good incomes, I still have investments in USA equities and, most important of all, I vote in every USA election for which I am legally registered.
Consequently, ALL of those factors require my full attention and engagement if I intend to vote FOR hisorically positive Dem results and, therefore, AGAINST the next Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession, Great Repub Bear Market Crash and Repub Pandemic.
It is far from mere fun and games for me.
BTW, Trump is no political "mutant". He is the logical and easily predictable (by me, at least) culmination of everything every Repub since at least Nixon has wanted to be and hoped to inflict on America. And the one after him will be even worse for America.
Elvis 2008
01-07-24, 06:01
So as much as I find the legal case for the 14th Amendment disqualification entirely unpersuasive, I can almost make myself see the return-to-normalcy future that some of its advocates seem to be imagining.
Start with a 7-to-2 decision, maybe written by Brett Kavanaugh, disqualifying Trump. Then comes a lot of ranting and rage that mostly works itself out online. Then a sense of relief among Republican officeholders who move on to a Nikki Haley vs. Ron DeSantis primary. Then various Trump-backed spoiler-ish and third-party options emerge but fizzle out. Then, quite possibly, you have a DeSantis or Haley presidency in which partisan loyalty binds Republicans to their new leader, and an aging Trump eventually fades away.
I will concede to partisans of disqualification that such a scenario is theoretically possible. I certainly would find some versions of it eminently desirable. (My fears about a Haley presidency I will save for a future column.)..Wow, you mean half the American people are going to take up arms after a handful of unelected narcissistic bureaucrats try to strike down the most popular candidate for president? You think? The Democratic douches who cried wolf on January 6 would be praying for a repeat of that if the decisions of these bureaucrats is allowed. There would not be some unarmed dustup but a full on armed rebellion.
The Supreme Court is going to strike down this lunacy after holding a hearing and I wish it would be unanimous, but it won't be. They will say that no, you cannot call someone you do not like a criminal and disqualify him from office. Tooms will be swearing up and down that is legal just like it is legal to keep top secret documents in your garage. Anything is legal if you are a Democrat.
What gets me about this is the fucking hand ringing. This whole diatribe about being against Trump. Is that necessary? Why do you have to play that way? It just shows you people do not get why they voted for him to begin with. In 2008, we were coming off the Great Recession and a whole lot of bankers did some horrible things. I was thinking the way Obama was talking and the people on his economic team were really going to do give us reforms that reigned in the bankers and helped the people. As soon as he got in office, Obama put a bunch off Wall Street hacks in his cabinet and was the best friend the banksters ever had. None of the banksters sniffed jail.
In Michigan, all the pols lined up to kiss the CEO of GM's ass. Trump was like why are you dummies sending all these jobs overseas? When asked if the system was rigged, Hilary Clinton said it was not rigged, and Trump said it was and he made money off the rigged system. Okay, Trump is full of himself, and he makes decisions that make him popular, but not for one second did I ever feel Trump was making a decision because he owed a favor to some billionaire. With Biden, I wonder if he is making any decisions on his own.
And now I am not even voting for Trump any more. I am voting against censorship, against unelected bureaucrats who decide who can be on a ballot, against the deep state, and against a corrupt judiciary by voting for Trump.
MDS, I appreciate the link. I am just sick of people having to apologize for being pro-Trump like this guy.
MarquisdeSade1
01-07-24, 07:51
https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-shares-new-ad-god-made-trump
After all, that "inject bleach" thing was long before he finally got indicted for his crimes.
Now you know why Trump has refused to show up for a debate. LOL. It isn't because he is so far ahead of the Repub competition and he doesn't need to show up. Since when has Trump missed an opportunity to blab and blather on regarding any topic when free television coverage, publicity and more dumb Repub hillbilly donations are in the offing?
Hell, he doesn't even need to show up for those trial hearings but he does so anyway in order to avoid debates and to instead make another pitch for those dumb Repub hillbilly donations.
Well, he did chicken out from debating Joe Biden last time. And he probably will again next time. But it won't be because he is too well informed, too prepared, too lucid, too cognitively competent and too important to respond to genuine moderator questions. LOL.
Nope.
Here's why his handlers probably throw themselves in front of him to prevent him from attending a debate or unbiased interview and schedule other activities to keep him occupied instead:
'Dementia': Trump's Brain Was Broken At Iowa Rally, And People Noticed.
He was worse than usual.
https://crooksandliars.com/2024/01/dementia-trumps-brain-was-broken-iowa
OMG. Watch the various videos or read the transcripts. Trump has totally lost it. No wonder people who have to get near him are reporting noticing his serious hygiene and body odor problems. Keeping up with daily washing, toilet, grooming and hygiene habits is often one of the first things to go among the demented and mentally ill.
Wow, you mean half the American people are going to take up arms after a handful of unelected narcissistic bureaucrats try to strike down the most popular candidate for president? You think? The Democratic douches who cried wolf on January 6 would be praying for a repeat of that if the decisions of these bureaucrats is allowed. There would not be some unarmed dustup but a full on armed rebellion.
The Supreme Court is going to strike down this lunacy after holding a hearing and I wish it would be unanimous, but it won't be. They will say that no, you cannot call someone you do not like a criminal and disqualify him from office. Tooms will be swearing up and down that is legal just like it is legal to keep top secret documents in your garage. Anything is legal if you are a Democrat.
What gets me about this is the fucking hand ringing. This whole diatribe about being against Trump. Is that necessary? Why do you have to play that way? It just shows you people do not get why they voted for him to begin with. In 2008, we were coming off the Great Recession and a whole lot of bankers did some horrible things. I was thinking the way Obama was talking and the people on his economic team were really going to do give us reforms that reigned in the bankers and helped the people. As soon as he got in office, Obama put a bunch off Wall Street hacks in his cabinet and was the best friend the banksters ever had. None of the banksters sniffed jail.See the highlighted part above? Trump committed a crime in that regard and Biden did not.
We all know you're lying because even you can't be so stupid that you don't know the blatantly obvious difference between the way Trump dealt with that issue and the way Biden did and, therefore, why Trump broke the law and Biden did not.
Elvis 2008
01-07-24, 19:34
See the highlighted part above? Trump committed a crime in that regard and Biden did not.Man, you remind me of the guys seeing hookers in the USA swearing they are law abiding citizens.
And neither did Obama, Clinton or anyone else who left the Executive Branch with dozens of boxes full of thousands of documents packed by staffers, a tiny portion of which might have turned out to have still been classified. For them, no crime. For Trump, crime.
Tooms, what are the names of the staffers? Did they make statements under oath? When were the documents moved? Who told someone in authority that Biden had classified documents in his garage? Has Biden gone under oath and swore he did not know?
You don't know any of that. You just are swallowing up all the bullshit excuses MSNBC and the NYT is feeding you.
What you cannot get through your pea sized brain is not the law but the intent of the law. We learned from Snowden and those who he leaked to that so much of this classified information should not be but that 90% of the good stuff is classified for government security versus national security. The issue with us is if Trump did anything to put the country at risk.
To those of us with common sense, if you are going to take the unprecedented step of prosecuting your political opponent, you better be squeaky clean and Biden was dirty as hell.
So those of who know about election hating Democratic douches could predict what would happen next. Biden would not be charged and Trump would, and the Biden DOJ would do all it could to prosecute Trump before the election and that is what happened exactly. So we concluded that this was not about national security and all about the 2024 election, and the polls show that belief.
Because you are a Democratic douche, you do not get the tactic that worked in 2016 is not going to work today. That is what happens after you pull the Ukrainegate, Russiagate, and 1-6 stunts.
You probably do not even get the irony of screaming about the law on a hooker board.
MarquisdeSade1
01-07-24, 20:05
"Hardly. I still pay USA Federal Taxes, it still matters to me how the USA economy goes because I want my rental property tenants to have good jobs with good incomes, I still have investments in USA equities and, most important of all, I vote in every USA election for which I am legally registered.
Consequently, ALL of those factors require my full attention and engagement if I intend to vote FOR hisorically positive Dem results and, therefore, AGAINST the next Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession, Great Repub Bear Market Crash and Repub Pandemic.
It is far from mere fun and games for me.
BTW, Trump is no political "mutant". He is the logical and easily predictable (by me, at least) culmination of everything every Repub since at least Nixon has wanted to be and hoped to inflict on America. And the one after him will be even worse for America. ".
Man, you remind me of the guys seeing hookers in the USA swearing they are law abiding citizens.
Tooms, what are the names of the staffers? Did they make statements under oath? When were the documents moved? Who told someone in authority that Biden had classified documents in his garage? Has Biden gone under oath and swore he did not know?
You don't know any of that. You just are swallowing up all the bullshit excuses MSNBC and the NYT is feeding you.
What you cannot get through your pea sized brain is not the law but the intent of the law. We learned from Snowden and those who he leaked to that so much of this classified information should not be but that 90% of the good stuff is classified for government security versus national security. The issue with us is if Trump did anything to put the country at risk.
To those of us with common sense, if you are going to take the unprecedented step of prosecuting your political opponent, you better be squeaky clean and Biden was dirty as hell.
So those of who know about election hating Democratic douches could predict what would happen next. Biden would not be charged and Trump would, and the Biden DOJ would do all it could to prosecute Trump before the election and that is what happened exactly. So we concluded that this was not about national security and all about the 2024 election, and the polls show that belief.
Because you are a Democratic douche, you do not get the tactic that worked in 2016 is not going to work today. That is what happens after you pull the Ukrainegate, Russiagate, and 1-6 stunts.
You probably do not even get the irony of screaming about the law on a hooker board.Read the full Trump indictment on mishandling of classified documents
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/read-the-full-trump-indictment-on-mishandling-of-classified-documents
The Department of Justice released on Friday an unsealed federal indictment of former President Donald Trump, with 37 felony counts related to the mishandling of classified documents, obstructing justice and making false statements.
...
Federal prosecutors also accused the former president of defying requests from the Justice Department to hand over classified documents, making false statements to the FBI and tapping his aides to help hide boxes of records.Trump did that.
Biden did not.
BTW, when you stop screaming about a non existant crime committed by Biden while Trump blatantly and proudly broke the law, check out the fact that there is no crime committed between an adult hooker and a customer in Thailand according to the Thai Criminal Code.
Of course, this will only matter to those of us who care about an officer of the USA government like the POTUS honoring his Oath of Office, his Constitutional duties regarding those laws and, in this perfect example case, the enforcement of the USA Constitution to properly disqualify the Worst so-called President of All Time with the Worst Economic and National Security Record of Results of All Time from holding elected office again.
By stark contrast, if you really love so-called potuses lying about their Oath of Office, producing historically crap Economic and National Security results including Mass Murdering over a million Americans so far, worldwide economic Disasters, global supply-chain destruction, the resulting Inflation, millions upon millions of jobs wiped out along with violent, cop-killing, anti-America, America-hating Insurrections, well, I suppose you will probably shrug this off and go back to focusing on Impeaching President Hunter Biden.
Special counsel probe uncovers new details about Trump's inaction on Jan. 6: Sources. Aides allegedly said Trump was "not interested" in doing more to stop the riot.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/special-counsel-probe-uncovers-new-details-trumps-inaction/story?id=106131854
https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-shares-new-ad-god-made-trumpThat should be shown on every broadcast and cable TV channel every day until election day. And it should pop up on websites all over the Internet until then too.
If so, Biden wins by 10 points, Dems take 3-4 more Senate seats and win back the House Majority by 20 seats, easy.
Few if any ads have captured and demonstrated the blithering lunacy of Trump, his Party and his Party's voting base better than that one. LOL.
Joe, you have presided over a record decline in Violent Crime and Homocide as President and, as a Senator, produced legislation that triggered a historic decline in violent crime beginning in 1994.
Don't blow it now by releasing or pardoning any of Trump's violent, cop-killing Insurrectionist mob and turning them loose back into society before they have paid their well-earned and well-deserved debt to it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1HsWxo1Zc7c&pp=ygUPbGluY29sbiBwcm9qZWN0
"hostages". LOL. What blithering, America-hating loons Trump and his cult followers are.
MarquisdeSade1
01-09-24, 02:23
"That should be shown on every broadcast and cable TV channel every day until election day. And it should pop up on websites all over the Internet until then too.
If so, Biden wins by 10 points, Dems take 3-4 more Senate seats and win back the House Majority by 20 seats, easy.
Few if any ads have captured and demonstrated the blithering lunacy of Trump, his Party and his Party's voting base better than that one. LOL. ".
Your nonsense is getting more and more unhinged LMAO.
And you call this "fun" LMFAO.
https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-shares-new-ad-god-made-trump
That should be shown on every broadcast and cable TV channel every day until election day. And it should pop up on websites all over the Internet until then too.
If so, Biden wins by 10 points, Dems take 3-4 more Senate seats and win back the House Majority by 20 seats, easy.
Few if any ads have captured and demonstrated the blithering lunacy of Trump, his Party and his Party's voting base better than that one. LOL.
Play IT AGAIN, Sam....!!!
Couldn't agree more!
Although when they say "god made Trump", what immediately comes to the minds (I'm pretty sure) of most Americans that obviously know better, is the "god" in the RED jump suit, you know the one with the pointy horns and a pitch fork, sitting on hot lumps of coal....kkkk! ...kkkk!
(...kkkk!)
MarquisdeSade1
01-09-24, 05:19
Joe, you have presided over a record decline in Violent Crime and Homocide as President and, as a Senator, produced legislation that triggered a historic decline in violent crime beginning in 1994.
Don't blow it now by releasing or pardoning any of Trump's violent, cop-killing Insurrectionist mob and turning them loose back into society before they have paid their well-earned and well-deserved debt to it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1HsWxo1Zc7c&pp=ygUPbGluY29sbiBwcm9qZWN0
"hostages". LOL. What blithering, America-hating loons Trump and his cult followers are. ".
You left America when Hussein the Muslim was in the Oval office (not that anyone would blame you) and have never returned (Thank Allah).
So don't even go calling some of the finest American Patriots America haters!!
Post script so what kind of double entendre is Scumbag Joe and "Homocide" in the same sentence?
BTW I'm sure most will say don't fucking pardon me for a sentence handed down from your kangaroo court, leave that for Our Lord and Savior!!
Joe, you have presided over a record decline in Violent Crime and Homocide as President and, as a Senator, produced legislation that triggered a historic decline in violent crime beginning in 1994.
Don't blow it now by releasing or pardoning any of Trump's violent, cop-killing Insurrectionist mob and turning them loose back into society before they have paid their well-earned and well-deserved debt to it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1HsWxo1Zc7c&pp=ygUPbGluY29sbiBwcm9qZWN0
"hostages". LOL. What blithering, America-hating loons Trump and his cult followers are. ".
You left America when Hussein the Muslim was in the Oval office (not that anyone would blame you) and have never returned (Thank Allah).I love that Repub Numbskull Trump is such a numbskull that he hasn't figured out what his 'winning' a Federal Appeals Court or SCOTUS ruling that, indeed, the President of the United States of America enjoys complete prosecutorial immunity for anything he / she wishes to do as POTUS would probably mean for him.
LOLOL.
Apparently he is so delusional, demented and cognitively impaired that he has forgotten Joe Biden IS the POTUS right now! LOL.
I guess Sleepy Joe will enjoy Carte Blanche and a 100% free pass under Trump's Historic Presidential Immunity Ruling when he not only orders Trump and his entire Crime Family incarcerated for a few days before their public execution along with an assurance that the exact same fate will befall any members of Congress who so much as hints at Impeaching him for it.
Lolol.
As usual, Repub Numbskull Trump has not exactly thought this through as much as, say, a normal human being might.
Elvis 2008
01-09-24, 15:18
Trump did that.
Biden did not.
BTW, when you stop screaming about a non existant crime committed by Biden while Trump blatantly and proudly broke the law, check out the fact that there is no crime committed between an adult hooker and a customer in Thailand according to the Thai Criminal Code.For you Tooms, it is not a crime because he is a Democrat. For you, every death in the world from Covid was due to Trump. For those of us on planet earth, this constant weaponizing of the DOJ and two tiered weapons system is nothing new. IMO the war on drugs and human trafficking exists just for LE to enrich itself. Thing about it is that it used to be the DOJ used to be able to pin their asset seizing ways on one bad apple crap. Now there are so many stories floating around that literally everyone I know with wealth is looking at retiring abroad and finding ways to stay away from the DOJ.
Even a partisan hack like you must have been shocked to see Trump's poll numbers where they are at given at all his indictments. I am sure you have some bullshit excuse for why that is, but for those of us on planet earth, it is the DOJ is out of control. A vote for Trump is a vote against the DOJ.
I am just wondering with you Tooms where is it enough. Should Trump be jailed for life? Should he be executed? How about those Supreme Court justices who overturned Roe V. Wade? Should they be jailed or executed?
MarquisdeSade1
01-09-24, 18:10
"I love that Repub Numbskull Trump is such a numbskull that he hasn't figured out what his 'winning' a Federal Appeals Court or SCOTUS ruling that, indeed, the President of the United States of America enjoys complete prosecutorial immunity for anything he / she wishes to do as POTUS would probably mean for him.
LOLOL.
Apparently he is so delusional, demented and cognitively impaired that he has forgotten Joe Biden IS the POTUS right now! LOL.
I guess Sleepy Joe will enjoy Carte Blanche and a 100% free pass under Trump's Historic Presidential Immunity Ruling when he not only orders Trump and his entire Crime Family incarcerated for a few days before their public execution along with an assurance that the exact same fate will befall any members of Congress who so much as hints at Impeaching him for it.
Lolol.
As usual, Repub Numbskull Trump has not exactly thought this through as much as, say, a normal human being might. ".
https://www.businessinsider.com/romney-biden-2024-election-january-6-democracy-pitch-bust-2024-1
LMFAO.
For you Tooms, it is not a crime because he is a Democrat. For you, every death in the world from Covid was due to Trump. For those of us on planet earth, this constant weaponizing of the DOJ and two tiered weapons system is nothing new. IMO the war on drugs and human trafficking exists just for LE to enrich itself. Thing about it is that it used to be the DOJ used to be able to pin their asset seizing ways on one bad apple crap. Now there are so many stories floating around that literally everyone I know with wealth is looking at retiring abroad and finding ways to stay away from the DOJ.
Even a partisan hack like you must have been shocked to see Trump's poll numbers where they are at given at all his indictments. I am sure you have some bullshit excuse for why that is, but for those of us on planet earth, it is the DOJ is out of control. A vote for Trump is a vote against the DOJ.
I am just wondering with you Tooms where is it enough. Should Trump be jailed for life? Should he be executed? How about those Supreme Court justices who overturned Roe V. Wade? Should they be jailed or executed?Hey, I have gone on record only crediting 90%-95% of the deaths, worldwide economic collapse, massive jobs destruction and resulting Inflation from Trump's Pandemic on Trump himself. Not 100%. "Make sure I win" Xi picks up the remaining 5%-10%.
What should happen to Trump and Repubs? Again. I have been quite specific about that; Trump should be convicted for every crime he has gleefully admitted he committed, which should find him in leg-irons sitting in a prison cell for a long, long time.
We can add never being allowed to hold political office again re the 14th Amendment to the Constitution as well.
Otherwise, the best America and the world can ever expect to get out of the Repub Party is for it to never occupy the White House again, never hold more than 20-25 seats in the Senate and more than about 60 seats in the House. Ever. Any more presence of Repubs than that in the Federal Government adds immeasurable amounts of danger and risk of historic economic and national security disaster. Obviously.
For me, the DOJ and the criminal code, what Biden did is not a crime because there is zero evidence of him KNOWINGLY packing and / or storing top secret documents in an unsafe place OR RETAINING them despite the proper authorities requesting they be returned.
Period.
By stark contrast, once Trump was requested to return the top secret documents packed and being stored in his toilet, he lost that UNKNOWINGLY status and his delaying the return of them for MONTHS as well as ignoring the subpoena to return them locked him inarguably into the illegal RETAINING of them status.
Both of which are crimes.
Now, on the Supreme Court Justices who overturned Roe V Wade, they along with any living presidents who appointed them or their (the Justices' and the Presidents') nearest living relatives should be billed for full child support until age 18 and 4 years at an accredited university for every child born to a female who signs an affidavit stating she would have gotten an abortion but for any difficulty whatsoever securing one in a safe and clean medical facility within 10 miles of her place of residence until 22 years after free abortions are legally and easily available in every state of the country.
That is no more reasonable response to that SCOTUS decision.
MarquisdeSade1
01-10-24, 02:56
"Hey, I have gone on record only crediting 90%-95% of the deaths, worldwide economic collapse, massive jobs destruction and resulting Inflation from Trump's Pandemic on Trump himself. Not 100%. "Make sure I win" Xi picks up the remaining 5%-10%.
What should happen to Trump and Repubs? Again. I have been quite specific about that; Trump should be convicted for every crime he has gleefully admitted he committed, which should find him in leg-irons sitting in a prison cell for a long, long time.
We can add never being allowed to hold political office again re the 14th Amendment to the Constitution as well.
Otherwise, the best America and the world can ever expect to get out of the Repub Party is for it to never occupy the White House again, never hold more than 20-25 seats in the Senate and more than about 60 seats in the House. Ever. Any more presence of Repubs than that in the Federal Government adds immeasurable amounts of danger and risk of historic economic and national security disaster. Obviously.
For me, the DOJ and the criminal code, what Biden did is not a crime because there is zero evidence of him KNOWINGLY packing and / or storing top secret documents in an unsafe place OR RETAINING them despite the proper authorities requesting they be returned.
Period.
By stark contrast, once Trump was requested to return the top secret documents packed and being stored in his toilet, he lost that UNKNOWINGLY status and his delaying the return of them for MONTHS as well as ignoring the subpoena to return them locked him inarguably into the illegal RETAINING of them status.
Both of which are crimes.
Now, on the Supreme Court Justices who overturned Roe V Wade, they along with any living presidents who appointed them or their (the Justices' and the Presidents') nearest living relatives should be billed for full child support until age 18 and 4 years at an accredited university for every child born to a female who signs an affidavit stating she would have gotten an abortion but for any difficulty whatsoever securing one in a safe and clean medical facility within 10 miles of her place of residence until 22 years after free abortions are legally and easily available in every state of the country.
That is no more reasonable response to that SCOTUS decision. ".
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-says-bangladesh-elections-were-not-free-fair-2024-01-08/
MarquisdeSade1
01-10-24, 03:21
https://nypost.com/2024/01/09/opinion/what-did-bill-clinton-and-gavin-newsom-talk-about-in-mexico-i-have-an-idea/?utm_source=gmail&utm_campaign=android_nyp
"I love that Repub Numbskull Trump is such a numbskull that he hasn't figured out what his 'winning' a Federal Appeals Court or SCOTUS ruling that, indeed, the President of the United States of America enjoys complete prosecutorial immunity for anything he / she wishes to do as POTUS would probably mean for him.
LOLOL.
Apparently he is so delusional, demented and cognitively impaired that he has forgotten Joe Biden IS the POTUS right now! LOL.
I guess Sleepy Joe will enjoy Carte Blanche and a 100% free pass under Trump's Historic Presidential Immunity Ruling when he not only orders Trump and his entire Crime Family incarcerated for a few days before their public execution along with an assurance that the exact same fate will befall any members of Congress who so much as hints at Impeaching him for it.
Lolol.
As usual, Repub Numbskull Trump has not exactly thought this through as much as, say, a normal human being might. ".
https://www.businessinsider.com/romney-biden-2024-election-january-6-democracy-pitch-bust-2024-1
LMFAO.Oh yes. And if only we had elected MittWitt back in 2012 his sterling Repub economic policies and stewardship might just about now be seeing his Party's 2008 skyrocketing unemployment rate declining to below 6%!
Impressive.
Uh. He is so dumb he doesn't even know one of the reasons his Party and its beloved benefactors in Mainstream Media has forced Biden to shift to campaigning (for now) on Trump and his and MittWitt's Party's existential threat to democracy at home and around the world is because they can not deal with and refute him campaigning on Biden's Historic Great Dem Economic Recovery, Expansion and Jobs Creation after being handed another Great Repub Crash and Massive Jobs Destruction and "Once in 100 Years Disaster. ".
BTW, unless Biden mentions it wherever possible won't the American Electorate wonder, gee, why are so many states feeling obligated to follow the Constitution and avoid breaking the law by not putting your boy on the ballot?
I mean, what with everyone supposedly having forgotten all about the only 3-4 "accomplishments" of Trump's entire so-called presidency; adding Trillions to the deficit with nothing to show for it, producing at least two huge spikes in crime and border crossings (the latter really being his Repub Congress' responsibility), the creation of Trump's Pandemic and the resulting deaths and worldwide economic, supply-chain collapse and Inflation and, oh yes, his attempted overthrow of American democracy culminating in the day his efforts incited a violent, cop-killing mob of Repub Insurrectionists to storm and attack the Capitol while he sat on his butt for more than 3 hours doing absolutely nothing to stop it, enjoying it, cheering them on, all more violations of his Oath of Office and why and how he disqualified himself from holding elected office again.
Until his Repub Justices on the Supreme Court twist themselves into the usual Repub Twisty McPretzels on their penchant for carving out one time only exceptions for their (your) Party's clearly unfit for office candidates, that is.
Florida GOP Chair, Christian Ziegler gets the boot and is forcibly ousted from office against his will, amid sexual and rape allegations, and now entangled with video voyeurism laws.
Florida GOP Ousts Christian Ziegler as Chair Amid Sexual Assault...
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/08/us/christian-ziegler-florida-republican.html
Now really Repubs, what was that so difficult?
Now just think how much better off the country would have been, had Repubs (grown some cojones and) done the same with Trump, the dude, who's actually been found liable of sexual abuse, months ago...sheesh!
"Hey, I have gone on record only crediting 90%-95% of the deaths, worldwide economic collapse, massive jobs destruction and resulting Inflation from Trump's Pandemic on Trump himself. Not 100%. "Make sure I win" Xi picks up the remaining 5%-10%.
What should happen to Trump and Repubs? Again. I have been quite specific about that; Trump should be convicted for every crime he has gleefully admitted he committed, which should find him in leg-irons sitting in a prison cell for a long, long time.
We can add never being allowed to hold political office again re the 14th Amendment to the Constitution as well.
Otherwise, the best America and the world can ever expect to get out of the Repub Party is for it to never occupy the White House again, never hold more than 20-25 seats in the Senate and more than about 60 seats in the House. Ever. Any more presence of Repubs than that in the Federal Government adds immeasurable amounts of danger and risk of historic economic and national security disaster. Obviously.
For me, the DOJ and the criminal code, what Biden did is not a crime because there is zero evidence of him KNOWINGLY packing and / or storing top secret documents in an unsafe place OR RETAINING them despite the proper authorities requesting they be returned.
Period.
By stark contrast, once Trump was requested to return the top secret documents packed and being stored in his toilet, he lost that UNKNOWINGLY status and his delaying the return of them for MONTHS as well as ignoring the subpoena to return them locked him inarguably into the illegal RETAINING of them status.
Both of which are crimes. Report shows the extent of Republican efforts to sabotage democracy.
Research identifies at least 262 bills were introduced in 41 states this year with the intent to hijack the election process.
Dec. 24, 2021
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/23/voter-suppression-election-interference-republicans
The Republican assault on free and fair elections instigated by Donald Trump is gathering pace, with efforts to sabotage the normal workings of American democracy sweeping state legislatures across the US.
A year that began with the violent insurrection at the US Capitol is ending with an unprecedented push to politicize, criminalize or in other ways subvert the nonpartisan administration of elections. A year-end report from pro-democracy groups identifies no fewer than 262 bills introduced in 41 states that hijack the election process.Yet, the American Electorate managed to surmount those unprecedented efforts by Trump and his Republican Party to rig elections and increased the number of Democratic Party seats in the Senate and limit the usual "shalacking" the WH Party takes in that first Midterm to a humiliating Repub Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Pink Tinkle.
Which does not bode well for Repubs this year considering the Dems have now learned what all those anti-democratic Repub tricks and cheats were in 2022 and how to surmount them even more successfully this time.
MarquisdeSade1
01-11-24, 00:26
"Oh yes. And if only we had elected MittWitt back in 2012 his sterling Repub economic policies and stewardship might just about now be seeing his Party's 2008 skyrocketing unemployment rate declining to below 6%!
Impressive.
Uh. He is so dumb he doesn't even know one of the reasons his Party and its beloved benefactors in Mainstream Media has forced Biden to shift to campaigning (for now) on Trump and his and MittWitt's Party's existential threat to democracy at home and around the world is because they can not deal with and refute him campaigning on Biden's Historic Great Dem Economic Recovery, Expansion and Jobs Creation after being handed another Great Repub Crash and Massive Jobs Destruction and "Once in 100 Years Disaster. ".
BTW, unless Biden mentions it wherever possible won't the American Electorate wonder, gee, why are so many states feeling obligated to follow the Constitution and avoid breaking the law by not putting your boy on the ballot?
I mean, what with everyone supposedly having forgotten all about the only 3-4 "accomplishments" of Trump's entire so-called presidency; adding Trillions to the deficit with nothing to show for it, producing at least two huge spikes in crime and border crossings (the latter really being his Repub Congress' responsibility), the creation of Trump's Pandemic and the resulting deaths and worldwide economic, supply-chain collapse and Inflation and, oh yes, his attempted overthrow of American democracy culminating in the day his efforts incited a violent, cop-killing mob of Repub Insurrectionists to storm and attack the Capitol while he sat on his butt for more than 3 hours doing absolutely nothing to stop it, enjoying it, cheering them on, all more violations of his Oath of Office and why and how he disqualified himself from holding elected office again.
Until his Repub Justices on the Supreme Court twist themselves into the usual Repub Twisty McPretzels on their penchant for carving out one time only exceptions for their (your) Party's clearly unfit for office candidates, that is."
https://www.livemint.com/news/world/con-artist-says-barack-obama-took-drugs-had-sex-with-him-in-2008-video-11693990543882.html
Drug addicts shouldn't even be allowed to clean the toilets in the White House.
https://potus-geeks.livejournal.com/701583.html
Unfit for office how about that draft dodging anti American piece of shit Bubba?
Or #43.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/01/09/exclusive-donald-trump-recounts-how-ted-kennedy-once-told-him-joe-biden-dumbest-senator/
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/what-great-replacement-theory-musk-exposes-immense-growing-size-illegal-immigration
In keeping with the classic Republican move since forever, Repub Trump's 2 big campaign promises are things Dem Biden has already shouldered all the heavy lifting and assumed all the political risk to accomplish.
Trump talks dictatorship, abortion at Fox town hall
https://www.courthousenews.com/trump-talks-dictatorship-abortion-at-fox-town-hall/
"Im gonna be a dictator for one day. Were gonna do two things: the border, were gonna make it so tight, youre not gonna come in unless you come in legally, and the second is energy, were gonna drill baby drill. And then Im not gonna be a dictator anymore, the hotel mogul and onetime reality TV star said. Uh.
1. Illegal border crossings are already way down under Biden. Despite confusion about it in numbskull minds like that of Elon Musk, the high migrant crossings occurring now are not "illegal" until and unless their claim of refugee status is investigated and denied. Which, thanks to Trump gutting that process on his way out previously, takes a lot more time and requires a lot more staff and facilities than before. Otherwise, Biden would be violating International Human Rights Law and Treaty as it is required he obey by the USA Constitution.
That is the system repeatedly affirmed by Repub Congresses and why any reformation of it must begin in the Repub Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Pink Tinkle House.
Axios Explains: The myth of a U.S.-Mexico "open border"
https://www.axios.com/2023/10/17/us-mexico-border-open-borders-myth
2. The United States is producing more oil than any country in history.
Dec. 19, 2023.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/19/business/us-production-oil-reserves-crude/index.html#text=Last%20 month%2 see%20 weekly%20 US%20 oil, sent%20 output%20 and%20 prices%20 crashing.
Last month, weekly US oil production hit 13.2 million barrels per day, according to the US Energy Information Administration. Thats just above the Donald Trump-era record of 13.1 million set in early 2020 just before the Covid-19 crisis sent output and prices crashing.BTW, please don't tell anyone in typically pro Repub Mainstream Media, but the average price of a gallon of regular gasoline today is within 9 to 14 cents of where it was in 2018 and 2019, Trump's supposedly "Greatest Economy Ever" years prior to his economic and national security policies and stewardship produced Trump's Pandemic.
And, imagine that, without anyone in America becoming a dictator for so much as 1 minute, much less one day or the broad USA Stock Market Crashing into a 20%+ Bear Market as it did in December 2018.
https://gasprices.aaa.com/
Latest = $3. 078.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m
May, 2018 = $2.987.
May, 2019 = $2.946.
For Florida Repubs and Ron DeSantis, all is not well as of late. So could a DeSantis/Repub Florida meltdown be coming?
What with DeSantis' 2024 presidential campaign run being a huge flop, having been in a downward trajectory since its inception having been on equal footing with Trump, financial backing drying up and now finds itself last, in some polls running behind Nikki Haley (who according to Vivek Ramaswamy, is "Dick Cheney in 3-Inch Heels"). Is his political career is on the ropes?
But hey, I'm not one to believe in polling numbers so he may very well "a punchers chance". But with Haley nipping at his heels and being down 50+ points to the original "OG grifter" front runner, is this really just the least of DeSantis's problems?
With his lack of attention to the state, weak governorship and mounting problems everyday Floridians are facing at home, while he tries to prop up a brutally failing campaign, it has not gone unnoticed by Floridians.
Followed by recent Florida RNC Chairman, Zielger's sexual assault, rape allegations and LGBTQ 3-threesomes with wife Bridget Ziegler, has only inflamed and underscored the hypocrisy of their "Christian family values", "war on woke", "war on Don't Say Gay" bills and anti-LGBTQ legislation.
Now it should be said, that while Ron DeSantis had hand picked Christian and Bridget Ziegler (two buffoons for public positions they have no business holding) and it is relevant that Bridget is (or was) "bestees" with Casy DeSantis. Again calling into question his due diligence when "hiring" , the "qualifications" of his appointments and thus his governorship.
Although it's refreshing to see the MSM haven't yet maligned, disparaged and accused the DeSantis', of also engaging in LGBTQ 3-threesome, by just being the Zielger's "friends and bestees adjacent", unlike what the MAGA Repubs are doing with Hunter Biden and his father.
DeSantis Lobs Most Forceful Attacks Yet Against Trump, Days Before Iowa Caucuses
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/us/politics/desantis-haley-cnn-town-hall.html
But the die is cast and the spectre of Zielger's LGBTQ hypocrisy and political fallout for Desantis will loom like a dark cloud over his campaign, despite any last minute feeble heroics, to "lash out" at Trump", during the bogus Fox News Channel town hall.
Speaking of political career meltdowns, here is a funny excerpt from Rick Wilson (Lincoln Project).
He first tell us that, "Kevin McCarthy made an announcement on social media somewhere and says he gonna join/work with Silicon Valley and help craft A.I. Regulation/Legislation"
He then laughingly goes on to say, "Oh God!...Skynet and the T1 [and Judgment Day T2's] Terminators may as well just show up NOW, and kill us all." (...kkkk!)
Yeah, just what the world needs, "a Kevin McCarthy", taking their Republican "Frankenstein politics" to the world of AI...'"God help us indeed!!!"
Elvis 2008
01-11-24, 20:57
In keeping with the classic Republican move since forever, Repub Trump's 2 big campaign promises are things Dem Biden has already shouldered all the heavy lifting and assumed all the political risk to accomplish.
1. Illegal border crossings are already way down under Biden. Despite confusion about it in numbskull minds like that of Elon Musk, the high migrant crossings occurring now are not "illegal" until and unless their claim of refugee status is investigated and denied.The Toomsian pretzel brain is now becoming much clearer. Laws are for Republicans and they can break them and go to jail. Democrats or in this case illegal aliens expected to vote Democrat cannot break any law. It is perfectly legal for anyone from any country to cross over the border from Mexico, even people from Africa and Asia.
If you have a Democratic douche brain, you can be against racism and racist against white people. You can be a soy boy like Spidy and be against sexism while being sexist versus men.
And anyone including Elon Musk, whose brain you could not hold a candle to Tooms, who criticizes Democrats when they exhibit this illogical pattern is an idiot.
Rule #1 is the Democratic party is always right. Rule #2 is if the Democratic party is wrong, see rule #1.
This is right out of Orwell and Animal Farm.
The United States is producing more oil than any country in history.LOL. And the leaders of oil companies were hypercritical of Biden for their not producing more early in the administration. At this point, the oil producers just tuned Biden out and said fuck it and went ahead and started drilling. And lo and behold, look at this wonderful result.
If Biden were so damn pro drilling, why the fuck was he draining the SPR early in his presidency? The guy was so desperate to get oil he was schmoozing up to Iran, Venezuela, and then tried the Saudis who blew him off. The guy has been the biggest anti fossil fuel and global warming cuck the oval office has ever seen.
Joe Rogan had a guest on his program from Alaska, and he was like if we did not spend so much money on Ukraine, we could have used said money to secure the border and had both a gas and water pipeline from Alaska to California with change to spare.
All the gains the USA has made on carbon emissions have been due to the change from coal to natural gas for electricity.
Having been to Alaska, I saw the whole state was practically drenched in fresh water. All this talk about Lake Mead and the Colorado river drying up, and it could be solved with a water pipeline from Alaska? LOL. No, the Democratic douche logic is we want to use the Ukraine war to oust Putin since he cost us the 2016 election.
If you are a Democratic douche, you care more about getting Putin than water and safe, cheap, and clean electricity. SMH. Only good part about all this might be seeing those Democratic douche Californians dying of thirst.
The Toomsian pretzel brain is now becoming much clearer. Laws are for Republicans and they can break them and go to jail. Democrats or in this case illegal aliens expected to vote Democrat cannot break any law. It is perfectly legal for anyone from any country to cross over the border from Mexico, even people from Africa and Asia.
If you have a Democratic douche brain, you can be against racism and racist against white people. You can be a soy boy like Spidy and be against sexism while being sexist versus men.
And anyone including Elon Musk, whose brain you could not hold a candle to Tooms, who criticizes Democrats when they exhibit this illogical pattern is an idiot.
Rule #1 is the Democratic party is always right. Rule #2 is if the Democratic party is wrong, see rule #1.
This is right out of Orwell and Animal Farm.
LOL. And the leaders of oil companies were hypercritical of Biden for their not producing more early in the administration. At this point, the oil producers just tuned Biden out and said fuck it and went ahead and started drilling. And lo and behold, look at this wonderful result.
If Biden were so damn pro drilling, why the fuck was he draining the SPR early in his presidency? The guy was so desperate to get oil he was schmoozing up to Iran, Venezuela, and then tried the Saudis who blew him off. The guy has been the biggest anti fossil fuel and global warming cuck the oval office has ever seen.
Joe Rogan had a guest on his program from Alaska, and he was like if we did not spend so much money on Ukraine, we could have used said money to secure the border and had both a gas and water pipeline from Alaska to California with change to spare.
All the gains the USA has made on carbon emissions have been due to the change from coal to natural gas for electricity.
Having been to Alaska, I saw the whole state was practically drenched in fresh water. All this talk about Lake Mead and the Colorado river drying up, and it could be solved with a water pipeline from Alaska? LOL. No, the Democratic douche logic is we want to use the Ukraine war to oust Putin since he cost us the 2016 election.
If you are a Democratic douche, you care more about getting Putin than water and safe, cheap, and clean electricity. SMH. Only good part about all this might be seeing those Democratic douche Californians dying of thirst.1. Repub Douche Trump could not prevent migrants claiming refugee status from crossing the border and providing their Constitutionally-mandated due process to have it investigated and then approved or denied without violating the USA Constitution and, BTW, a recent Repub Douche Supreme Court ruling, any more than Biden has.
Those hundreds of thousands of migrants crossing the border lately are not crossing "illegally. " Which means Trump just confirmed he would do nothing different about them than Biden is doing.
Please explain that to Elon Musk. I have time to shoot off these posts every now and then. And it's fun. But there is not enough time in one life to explain these simple concepts to numbskulls like Elon Musk. Have at it.
2. The USA is producing more oil under Biden than was produced under Trump.
Oh, and I see the average price of a gallon of regular gas dropped even lower since my post yesterday.
And all without Joe Biden becoming a dictator for even 1 minute much less a day.
And without Dem Biden producing the usual Great Repub Crash or Great Repub Depression or Great Repub Recession or Great Repub Massive Jobs Destruction that is the usual way Repub Douches lower the price of gas, the value of your home, the value of your investments, lower wages, wipe out millions upon millions of jobs and, so impressive, lower Inflation.
As I easily predicted here when the Repub Douche Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Pink Tinkle took control of the House thanks to their unprecedented efforts to cheat and rig elections in their favor in at least 41 states, their nearly sole focus for their term will be to gaze upon, drool over and share among their Repub base nude photos of Hunter Biden while setting about Impeaching President Hunter Biden.
It would not be about reducing Inflation and Crime in America. Joe Biden has already accomplished that.
And it would not be about controlling the border and reforming Immigration Policy, which is by far more the responsibility of Congress than the POTUS.
Nope. This is what it will be all about this Repub Pink Tinkle Congressional Term. Lolol:
MTG (Repub Marjorie Taylor Greene) Shows Hunter Bidens Nudes on Capitol Hill
Again
https://news.yahoo.com/mtg-shows-hunter-biden-nudes-221404743.html
Yes, what happened to "I alone can fix it"?
Trump Dreams of Economic Disaster.
Jan. 11, 2024
https://dnyuz.com/2024/01/11/trump-dreams-of-economic-disaster/
Did Donald Trump just say that he's hoping for an economic crash? Not exactly. But what he did say was arguably even worse, especially once you put it in context.
And Trump's evident panic over recent good economic news deepens what is, for me, the biggest conundrum of American politics: Why have so many people joined and stayed in a personality cult built around a man who poses an existential threat to our nation's democracy and is also personally a complete blowhard?
So what did Trump actually say on Monday? Strictly speaking, he didn't call for a crash, he predicted one, positing that the economy is running on "fumes" and that he hopes the inevitable crash will happen this year, "because I don't want to be Herbert Hoover. ".
If you think about it, this isn't at all what a man who believes himself to be a brilliant economic manager and supposedly cares about the nation's welfare should say. What he should have said instead is something like this: My opponent's policies have set us on the path to disaster, but I hope the disaster doesn't come until I'm in office because I don't want the American people to suffer unnecessarily, and, because I'm a very stable genius, I alone can fix it.
But no, Trump says he wants the disaster to happen on someone else's watch, specifically and openly so that he won't have to bear the responsibility.
Speaking of which, when did Trump start predicting economic disaster under President Biden? The answer is before the 2020 election. In October 2020, for example, he asserted that a Biden win would "unleash an economic disaster of epic proportions. ".
Now, everyone who makes economic predictions gets some of them wrong. I personally predicted a recession if Trump won in 2016, partly because markets seemed to believe that a Trump victory would be bad for the economy. But I retracted that call just three days after the election, acknowledging that I had briefly succumbed to motivated reasoning.
Trump, by contrast, has been predicting disaster under Biden for more than three years, without ever admitting that his predictions haven't come true. What we've gotten from Trump instead is a series of desperate false claims about the state of the economy. No, the price of bacon isn't "up five times" under Biden.
Some of these false claims fall into the category of: Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes? Last month, for example, Trump declared that gas costs "$5, $6, $7 and even $8 a gallon," when there are big signs all around the country advertising gas prices a bit over $3.
Maybe he doesn't get out much.
What Trump surely does do, though, is watch a lot of TV, which means that he's aware that the stock market has gone up a lot lately. This clearly troubles him. Indeed, he's apparently so rattled by stock gains under Biden that in a recent speech he managed both to dismiss those gains as irrelevant just "making rich people richer" and to claim credit for them: "The stock market is good because a lot of people think we're going to win the election. ".
If this sounds ridiculous, that's because it is. Here we have a guy who spent much of his time in office bragging about a rising stock market suddenly declaring that stock gains are bad when someone else is in power, while insisting that he deserves credit for good things (or are they bad things?) that happen when he isn't even running the country.
Does this matter? Trump may want an economic crash, but he doesn't have any tools I'm aware of that could produce one. But as I wrote the other day, there's a risk that pressure from Trump and his allies will lead the Federal Reserve to keep interest rates too high for too long.
Practical concerns aside, however, Trump's flailing on the economy and the stock market deepens the mystery of his political appeal.
I hate saying this, but I do understand why millions of people are drawn to Trump's dictatorial ambitions, his encouragement of violence, his declarations that immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country. " The sad truth is that there have always been many Americans who fundamentally don't believe in America's democratic ideals.
But I find it puzzling that Trump doesn't pay more of a political price for his boasting, whining and transparently self-serving lies.
MAGA types tend to idealize the 1950's, largely based on a delusional image of what life was really like at the time. It was especially terrible if you weren't a white male, but things could be pretty bad even if you were. One thing the '50's did have, however, was an image of how men were supposed to behave, one that emphasized stoicism, honesty and a willingness to take responsibility for one's actions what my parents would have called being a mensch.
Trump is as far from being a mensch as is humanly possible. Yet his supporters either don't see that or don't care, which seems to me to be a bigger departure from traditional values than all the wokeness in the world.
WARNING: Content posted below may cause Incels' brains and heads to explode and/or Incels may also experience, shriveled up dicks or erectile dysfunction, should they read on further... Don't say I didn't warn you Incels...you know, who you are! (...kkkk!)
1. Taylor Swift vs. The Incel/"He-Man" Haters Club
--- Taylor Swift named Time magazines person of the year ---
https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/2023/12/06/taylor-swift-time-person-of-the-year/
Bloomberg reports, Taylor Swift, is busting all kinds of touring records. Her Eras tour will become the greatest grossing tour of all-time (surpassing the Rolling Stones and Madonna). Her Eras tour (and Beyonce's Renaissance tour) have generated $6-8 billions of dollars to the US economy. And lets not forget about the "Beyonc 'Economic' Bump", that infuses billions in to the local economies of the cities she tours.
Incel dick shriveling 'Fun Fact': Taylor Swift, money generating prowess, is so great, World leaders around the globe, are begging Taylor Swift, for a tour stop.
Bloomberg, NPR dubs 2023, the "Economic Year of the women".
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2023-12-27/the-economic-power-of-women-in-2023-video
From Swiftie beads and Barbie to Beyonc, girls ran the world economy in 2023
https://www.npr.org/2023/12/27/1221483930/girl-economy-taylor-swift-beyonce-barbie-2023
2. 2023 The Economic Year of the Woman
Taylor Swift, Janet Yellen and Barbie: The Year of the (Economic) Woman
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/12/26/taylor-swift-janet-yellen-barbie-year-economic-woman/
From Swift, Beyonce, Barbie to Janet Yellen - The year of women as economic powerhouses, sees women spending tons of disposable income, as become a tour de force. According to a recent April 2023 consumer study, 78% of women identify as the primary shopper of their household.
Well hardly the "economy running on fumes", the Repub front runner for the Repub leadership, is crowing about, or the "recession in the next 12 month", he want to see either. I just love the irony of it all, where women, after women, after women, just seem to be the nail in his proverbial coffin. R.I.P.!!
WARNING: Incels, take out your tinfoil hats and protect yourselves!
3. Taylor Swift vs. Far-right QAnon/MAGA Repubs
How Taylor Swift, has sent the QAnon/MAGA far-right Repubs in a mind dizzying frenzy, to the point where, the far-right QAnon\MAGA conspiracists, have crawled from under their rocks, to accuse, the newest billionaire popstar artist, of election interference, unsavory alliances with the Soros family and god knows what other nutjob conspiracies they can think up.
How rich that is, coming from the violent, coup plotting, election denying insurrectionists, themselves? (...kkkk!)
A Taylor Swift Instagram post helped drive a surge in voter registration
https://www.npr.org/2023/09/22/1201183160/taylor-swift-instagram-voter-registration
It's just like the Repubs, not wanting Americas to get out and exercise their right to vote. Because we all know, when Americans get out and vote, especially in large numbers....Repubs LOSE!!! BIG TIME!!!
4. Taylor Swift Person of the Year vs. Far-right Losers of the Year
Taylor Swift is Time's person of the year and the far right is big mad about it
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/12/6/2210056/-Taylor-Swift-is-Time-s-person-of-the-year-and-the-far-right-is-big-mad-about-it
Taylor Swift is Time Magazines person of the year, a choice that makes perfect sense. Swifts Eras Tour is on track to break global records for tour earnings. A concert film also smashed records for that genre and provided the AMC movie theater chain with its highest single-day ticket sales ever. ...
Prominent far-right influencers are very unhappy ... Has @taylorswift13 made a deal with George Soros and Alex Soros to get the rights to her music back in exchange for getting Zoomers registered to vote Democrat against President Trump ahead of the 2024 Presidential election?
. . .
Pizzagate conspiracy theorist Jack Posobiec also weighed in. The Taylor Swift girlboss psyop has been fully activated. ...
How Taylor Swift sent the far right into a tailspin
https://www.msnbc.com/ayman-mohyeldin/watch/how-taylor-swift-sent-the-far-right-into-a-tailspin-199902277638
https://news.yahoo.com/taylor-swift-sent-far-tailspin-032229990.html
To conclude, I think Rolling Stone said it best, "Taylor Swifts Time Cover Is Breaking Far-Right Brains". The megastar's success is once again throwing right wingers into a conspiracy theory frenzy"
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-time-cover-far-right-conspiracy-theories-1234918882/
Hard to imagine Incels, will ever be the same after reading this! (...kkkk!)
MarquisdeSade1
01-15-24, 18:03
"Yes, what happened to "I alone can fix it"?
Trump Dreams of Economic Disaster.
Jan. 11,2024.
https://dnyuz.com/2024/01/11/trump-dreams-of-economic-disaster/".
Here's something to choke on beeches.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/15/opinion/trump-voters-economy.html
OPINION.
GUEST ESSAY.
What Trump Voters Understand About the Economy.
Jan. 15,2024, 5:01 am ET.
A wooden Trump sign made less legible by being weather-beaten.
Credit. Grant Hindsley for The New York Times.
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By Roger Lowenstein.
Mr. Lowenstein is a journalist and the author of "Ways and Means: Lincoln and His Cabinet and the Financing of the Civil War. ".
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Why is Donald Trump continuing to poll so strongly with voters?
As unpalatable as a second Trump term would be, many pundits who tackle this question have ignored a striking fact: The typical household's living standard improved during the three Trump years before the pandemic. Under President Biden, Americans have (at best) struggled to keep even with inflation.
Mr. Trump's huge personal negatives — his meanspirited personality, his toadying to dictators and shunning of American allies, and his unpardonable effort to steal an election — should more than offset his economic record. The old saw that Mussolini got the trains to run on time should not be understood as an endorsement.
But it is one thing to loathe Mr. Trump and hope for his defeat. It is another to wish away his successes or, as has become common, to ascribe his popularity to voter prejudices or weaknesses of character. The leitmotif in such arguments is that blue voters are rational political actors voting on merit while Trump is appealing primarily, if not exclusively, to irrational semi-citizens devoid of even self-interested calculation.
That might be. But it can't be ignored that they might also have experienced the pointed rise, after adjusting for inflation, in median household incomes — how the typical family lives — during the Trump years prior to the pandemic: 10.5 percent from 2016 to 2019. And inequality contracted noticeably. Thus, the 2020 Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finances on (roughly) the Trump era: "In grouping families by wealth, families at the top of the distribution experienced a sharp decline in average income (following particularly outsized gains over the 2010-16 period), whereas families in the lower and middle portions of the wealth distribution all saw modest gains. ".
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This is not to say that Mr. Trump's policies caused inequality to fall (a complicated question) or were responsible for most of the economy's improvement. While his tax cuts were a stimulant, his tariffs on imported steel, a signature policy, probably cost the country more jobs in manufacturing than it gained in steel, and at great expense to American consumers.
And modern economies are not puppets dancing to a president's string; they are susceptible to many influences beyond the control of one official, even those of an Oval Office bully. Moreover, Mr. Trump inherited a strong tailwind; real median household income rose by almost 12 percent during the second term of his predecessor, Barack Obama. Mr. Trump was fortunate.
But voters aren't economists. They often judge presidents on the basis of coincident economic performance. Jimmy Carter had to deal with serious inflation and George H. W. Bush endured a recession; each was voted out. Mr. Bush's successor, Bill Clinton, reaped the recovery; he got four more years.
Mr. Biden inherited a tough hand: an economy upset by Covid and supply chain disruptions. Yet he presided over a return to growth and dodged a much-predicted recession (touch wood). Jobs came roaring back. Early last year, unemployment dipped below the prepandemic low of 3. 5 percent under Mr. Trump, and it remains a still-impressive 3. 7 percent.
Wage inequality is also contracting under Mr. Biden. I would argue that voters care less about inequality than pundits do. What they care most about is whether they are doing better.
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And this is where Mr. Biden has fallen short. Inflation has snatched away the gains from even a very strong labor market. Over Mr. Biden's first two years, as price hikes outran wages, real median household income fell 2. 7 percent. The census has yet to report median income for 2023, but given that real wages were up about 1 percent through November, the cumulative change in household median income, adjusted for inflation, over Mr. Biden's first three years is likely to be in the range of mildly negative to very mildly positive. In other words, in the all-important category of improving living standards, the country did not make progress.
This shows that jobs and output, while very important, are not the only economic indicators that matter. Inflation matters, too — because high inflation taxes away prosperity. This is one area in which I think the president — along with the Federal Reserve — does bear some responsibility. He was warned by voices within his own party — notably, Larry Summers — that his first budget package, enacted nearly a year after the Covid recession had ended, was too big relative to the need. He went ahead and inflation in 2022 soared to 8 percent, a 40-year high.
While Mr. Biden is still a big deficit spender, the Fed has brought inflation down by more than half. Economic growth in the remainder of Mr. Biden's term may well contribute to rising living standards. I hope voters judge him on this improving picture. And I hope they take noneconomic factors into account, including Mr. Trump's continued refusal to acknowledge his defeat in 2020, which has poisoned the public square and eroded the civic fabric supporting the country's democracy. In a phrase, Mr. Trump is unfit for office.
That does not mean we should shrink from honestly assessing performance, including economic performance, under Mr. Trump as well as under Mr. Biden. Mr. Trump is so off-putting, many find it hard to evaluate him rationally, as we would anyone else. But it is right to do so, and we learn from having our eyes wide, not shut. And — something Democrats should have learned by now — condescending to Trump voters will not win many of them over.
MarquisdeSade1
01-16-24, 02:04
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2024/01/15/prosecutors-chicago-woman-left-brain-dead-after-eight-time-felon-attacked-her-on-train/
MarquisdeSade1
01-16-24, 02:16
They cheated in 2020 now they figure they can't cover the differential this time.
So Scumbag Joe is planning to stay even after losing a 2nd time even if he has to use the Pentagon to protect him.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/01/15/report-establishment-plots-military-coup-against-donald-trump-if-reelected/
Who is a threat to democracy?
No surprise Zuckerturd built that bunker.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023/12/15/mark-zuckerbergs-100-million-hawaiian-compound-features-massive-underground-bunker/
Are most Americans stupid about the economy?
Your link and all available evidence strongly suggests the answer is Yes.
"Yes, what happened to "I alone can fix it"?
Trump Dreams of Economic Disaster.
Jan. 11,2024.
https://dnyuz.com/2024/01/11/trump-dreams-of-economic-disaster/".
Here's something to choke on beeches.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/15/opinion/trump-voters-economy.html
OPINION.
GUEST ESSAY.
What Trump Voters Understand About the Economy.
Jan. 15,2024, 5:01 am ET.
A wooden Trump sign made less legible by being weather-beaten.
Credit. Grant Hindsley for The New York Times.
Share full article.
By Roger Lowenstein.
Mr. Lowenstein is a journalist and the author of "Ways and Means: Lincoln and His Cabinet and the Financing of the Civil War. ".
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Why is Donald Trump continuing to poll so strongly with voters?
As unpalatable as a second Trump term would be, many pundits who tackle this question have ignored a striking fact: The typical household's living standard improved during the three Trump years before the pandemic. Under President Biden, Americans have (at best) struggled to keep even with inflation.
Mr. Trump's huge personal negatives his meanspirited personality, his toadying to dictators and shunning of American allies, and his unpardonable effort to steal an election should more than offset his economic record. The old saw that Mussolini got the trains to run on time should not be understood as an endorsement.
But it is one thing to loathe Mr. Trump and hope for his defeat. It is another to wish away his successes or, as has become common, to ascribe his popularity to voter prejudices or weaknesses of character. The leitmotif in such arguments is that blue voters are rational political actors voting on merit while Trump is appealing primarily, if not exclusively, to irrational semi-citizens devoid of even self-interested calculation.
That might be. But it can't be ignored that they might also have experienced the pointed rise, after adjusting for inflation, in median household incomes how the typical family lives during the Trump years prior to the pandemic: 10.5 percent from 2016 to 2019. And inequality contracted noticeably. Thus, the 2020 Federal Reserve Survey of Consumer Finances on (roughly) the Trump era: "In grouping families by wealth, families at the top of the distribution experienced a sharp decline in average income (following particularly outsized gains over the 2010-16 period), whereas families in the lower and middle portions of the wealth distribution all saw modest gains. ".
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This is not to say that Mr. Trump's policies caused inequality to fall (a complicated question) or were responsible for most of the economy's improvement. While his tax cuts were a stimulant, his tariffs on imported steel, a signature policy, probably cost the country more jobs in manufacturing than it gained in steel, and at great expense to American consumers.
And modern economies are not puppets dancing to a president's string; they are susceptible to many influences beyond the control of one official, even those of an Oval Office bully. Moreover, Mr. Trump inherited a strong tailwind; real median household income rose by almost 12 percent during the second term of his predecessor, Barack Obama. Mr. Trump was fortunate.
But voters aren't economists. They often judge presidents on the basis of coincident economic performance. Jimmy Carter had to deal with serious inflation and George H. W. Bush endured a recession; each was voted out. Mr. Bush's successor, Bill Clinton, reaped the recovery; he got four more years.
Mr. Biden inherited a tough hand: an economy upset by Covid and supply chain disruptions. Yet he presided over a return to growth and dodged a much-predicted recession (touch wood). Jobs came roaring back. Early last year, unemployment dipped below the prepandemic low of 3. 5 percent under Mr. Trump, and it remains a still-impressive 3. 7 percent.
Wage inequality is also contracting under Mr. Biden. I would argue that voters care less about inequality than pundits do. What they care most about is whether they are doing better.
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And this is where Mr. Biden has fallen short. Inflation has snatched away the gains from even a very strong labor market. Over Mr. Biden's first two years, as price hikes outran wages, real median household income fell 2. 7 percent. The census has yet to report median income for 2023, but given that real wages were up about 1 percent through November, the cumulative change in household median income, adjusted for inflation, over Mr. Biden's first three years is likely to be in the range of mildly negative to very mildly positive. In other words, in the all-important category of improving living standards, the country did not make progress.
This shows that jobs and output, while very important, are not the only economic indicators that matter. Inflation matters, too because high inflation taxes away prosperity. This is one area in which I think the president along with the Federal Reserve does bear some responsibility. He was warned by voices within his own party notably, Larry Summers that his first budget package, enacted nearly a year after the Covid recession had ended, was too big relative to the need. He went ahead and inflation in 2022 soared to 8 percent, a 40-year high.
While Mr. Biden is still a big deficit spender, the Fed has brought inflation down by more than half. Economic growth in the remainder of Mr. Biden's term may well contribute to rising living standards. I hope voters judge him on this improving picture. And I hope they take noneconomic factors into account, including Mr. Trump's continued refusal to acknowledge his defeat in 2020, which has poisoned the public square and eroded the civic fabric supporting the country's democracy. In a phrase, Mr. Trump is unfit for office.
That does not mean we should shrink from honestly assessing performance, including economic performance, under Mr. Trump as well as under Mr. Biden. Mr. Trump is so off-putting, many find it hard to evaluate him rationally, as we would anyone else. But it is right to do so, and we learn from having our eyes wide, not shut. And something Democrats should have learned by now condescending to Trump voters will not win many of them over."Mr. Biden inherited a tough hand: an economy upset by Covid and supply chain disruptions. ".
Hey, no kidding.
Trump's claim that Biden's remarkable Recovery is the result of "running on the fumes" of what he did is, of course, a preposterous lie. Trump's first couple of years was coasting on the fumes of what Obama-Biden handed him. He didn't even pass his one ineffectual economic legislation until the last working day of 2017. A year later that godawful legislation was presiding over fewer jobs with it than without it, skyrocketing increases in the deficit and a 20%+ Bear Market decline in the broad stock market.
By stark contrast, Biden and his Dems proposed and passed several pieces of historic and positive economic legislation beginning early in his first year and those were in the system and on the table throughout the Great Dem Recovery and Historic Jobs Creation.
Also, the same typically pro Repub Mainstream Media that allowed Larry Summers and others to muse blithely and idiotically about Biden and the Dems not nailing the precise amount of stimulus to the dime necessary to recover the world from Trump's Pandemic with zero assurance that the historic, unprecedented health and economic set backs from it were truly over and while all previous electoral midterm patterns strongly suggesting there would be one and only one year to get it done also allowed Trump to lie for every year since that his Pandemic was simply something that "happened out of the blue" to the poor feller when the verifiable facts show his Classic Disastrous Repub economic and national security policies and stewardship over three years contributed more to producing Trump's Pandemic than any other human being on the planet.
And, as a Classic Repub, Trump would lay the groundwork for and blunder us into the next Great, Unprecedented, "Once in 100 Years" Repub Economic Disaster again ASAP, early and often.
That said, bear in mind polls can only telling us what poll respondents "say" to pollsters about how they feel. They can not tell us how they really feel. Voting results tell us how they really feel. And on that count, since 2020 voters have been telling us they definitely trust and believe Biden and the Dems "handle the economy better" than Repubs.
If anything, the greatest political risk for Biden and the Dems in 2024 is that their economic recovery and jobs creation results were so good for so many Americans that they are now free to fall for the usual sucker social issues and empty, jingoistic clap trap that Repub con men have had to run on instead of their disastrous economic and national security results since at least Nixon.
MarquisdeSade1
01-16-24, 04:56
"Are most Americans stupid about the economy?
Your link and all available evidence strongly suggests the answer is Yes.
"Mr. Biden inherited a tough hand: an economy upset by Covid and supply chain disruptions. ".
Hey, no kidding.
Trump's claim that Biden's remarkable Recovery is the result of "running on the fumes" of what he did is, of course, a preposterous lie. Trump's first couple of years was coasting on the fumes of what Obama-Biden handed him. He didn't even pass his one ineffectual economic legislation until the last working day of 2017. A year later that godawful legislation was presiding over fewer jobs with it than without it, skyrocketing increases in the deficit and a 20%+ Bear Market decline in the broad stock market.
By stark contrast, Biden and his Dems proposed and passed several pieces of historic and positive economic legislation beginning early in his first year and those were in the system and on the table throughout the Great Dem Recovery and Historic Jobs Creation.
Also, the same typically pro Repub Mainstream Media that allowed Larry Summers and others to muse blithely and idiotically about Biden and the Dems not nailing the precise amount of stimulus to the dime necessary to recover the world from Trump's Pandemic with zero assurance that the historic, unprecedented health and economic set backs from it were truly over and while all previous electoral midterm patterns strongly suggesting there would be one and only one year to get it done also allowed Trump to lie for every year since that his Pandemic was simply something that "happened out of the blue" to the poor feller when the verifiable facts show his Classic Disastrous Repub economic and national security policies and stewardship over three years contributed more to producing Trump's Pandemic than any other human being on the planet.
And, as a Classic Repub, Trump would lay the groundwork for and blunder us into the next Great, Unprecedented, "Once in 100 Years" Repub Economic Disaster again ASAP, early and often.
That said, bear in mind polls can only telling us what poll respondents "say" to pollsters about how they feel. They can not tell us how they really feel. Voting results tell us how they really feel. And on that count, since 2020 voters have been telling us they definitely trust and believe Biden and the Dems "handle the economy better" than Repubs.
If anything, the greatest political risk for Biden and the Dems in 2024 is that their economic recovery and jobs creation results were so good for so many Americans that they are now free to fall for the usual sucker social issues and empty, jingoistic clap trap that Repub con men have had to run on instead of their disastrous economic and national security results since at least Nixon. ".
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2024/01/15/prosecutors-chicago-woman-left-brain-dead-after-eight-time-felon-attacked-her-on-train/Even without properly crediting Trump for spending 2018,2019 and all of 2020 laying the foundation for Trump's Pandemic and only crediting him with lying about it and handling it all wrong in critical year 2020, the studies show Trump is responsible for at least 40% of the American deaths from his Pandemic:
US could have averted 40% of Covid deaths, says panel examining Trump's policies.
The country began the pandemic with a degraded public health infrastructure, leading to more deaths than other high-income countries.
Feb. 11, 2021
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/10/us-coronavirus-response-donald-trump-health-policy
And I hear some of those 400,000 (at a MINIMUM) Americans that Trump has Mass Murdered so far lived in Chicago and sometimes rode trains.
MarquisdeSade1
01-16-24, 08:34
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/16/us/politics/trump-iowa-win-voters.html
The Most Durable Force in American Politics: Trump's Ties to His Voters.
If Donald Trump's rivals want to stop his rise, they'll need to break his bond with his supporters. They didn't come close in Iowa.
Donald Trump wears a white hat and pumps his fist onstage. The hat says "Trump Caucus Captain. " Visible but out of focus in the foreground is a person making a heart shape with their hands.
Former President Donald Trump at a rally in Indianola, Iowa, the day before the state caucuses. Credit. Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times.
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Bill Clinton once explained the nation's two political parties by saying that Democrats want to fall in love while Republicans want to fall in line.
That adage has not withstood the Trump era. Today, it is Republicans who are besotted.
Donald J. Trump's decisive victory in Iowa revealed a new depth to the reservoir of devotion inside his party. For eight years, he has nurtured a relationship with his supporters with little precedent in politics. He validates them, he entertains them, he speaks for them and he uses them for his political and legal advantage.
This connection — a hard-earned bond for some, a cult of personality to others — has unleashed one the most durable forces in American politics.
Iowa Republicans, following the lead of party officials across the country, rallied behind the former president despite a list of reasons to reject him. Republicans lost control of the presidency, the Senate and the House during his four years in office. He failed to deliver the red wave of victories he promised in the 2022 midterms. He has been charged with 91 felonies in four criminal cases this past year.
And they stayed with him even as they were offered viable alternatives: Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, a popular, young governor who embraced Mr. Trump's policies, and Nikki Haley, one of the Deep South's first female governors, who credibly promised she could win back voters Mr. Trump drove away.
Yet in the first chance Americans had to cast judgment on Mr. Trump since he tried to overthrow an election, many Iowa Republicans made clear they don't judge him. They adore him.
"Trump is not a candidate, he's the leader of a national movement," said Newt Gingrich, a former House speaker who has advised Mr. Trump. "No one has come to grips with what's it like to take on the champion of a movement. That's why even as all these legal issues pile up, it just infuriates his movement and increases their anger unbelievably. ".
The risks associated with the kind of unusually strong hold Mr. Trump maintains on the party have already emerged.
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Supporters cheering for Mr. Trump at a rally in Indianola, Iowa. Credit. Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times.
He has encouraged supporters to view him as above fault or defeat, a mindset that can lead to the kind of political violence that shocked the nation during the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021. Elevating charisma over character can open the door to the kind of authoritarianism that Mr. Trump has promised on the campaign trail this past year.
"A lot of the people that support Donald Trump really are fed up with democracy, representative democracy, they think that an authoritarian-style government would probably be preferable at this point, in order to save the nation or whatever," said former Representative Charles Bass, a New Hampshire Republican who previously voted for Mr. Trump, but said he would not do so again. "I don't think they feel threatened by having somebody who at least has the trappings of being more authoritarian than past presidents. ".
Although Mr. Trump's win was resounding, the Iowa results suggest the party remains deeply divided over his return to power. Roughly half of Iowa Republicans voted for one of Mr. Trump's rivals, including about 20 percent who backed Mr. DeSantis, who finished in second, with Ms. Haley close behind.
Republicans who resisted Mr. Trump in Iowa included the party's youngest voters and anti-abortion-rights conservatives who backed Mr. DeSantis, according to entrance polls.
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The mood at the DeSantis watch party was anger and disbelief — over how fast the call was made.
Trump invested in a muscular turnout operation, and it paid off.
Similarly, Ms. Haley won moderate voters, Republicans who believed Mr. Trump lost the 2020 election, those who support a muscular foreign policy and the segment of the party that prioritized temperament in their choice for a presidential nominee.
Party strategists and officials in other states caution against drawing sweeping conclusions from the votes of a narrow slice of Republicans in a small state. As the Republican nominating contest moves to New Hampshire next week, one poll this month showed Ms. Haley within striking distance of Mr. Trump. The state's voters tend to be more moderate and less religious, suggesting an opening for her.
Mr. DeSantis's ability to threaten Mr. Trump is less clear. He marketed himself to voters as a Trumpian wunderkind, able to deliver America First policies without the drama and chaos that often trail the former president.
But MAGA Nation rivals the Queen's Guard when it comes to standing at the ready to defend their sovereign, and Mr. DeSantis was turned back as Republicans showed they are less interested in policies than they are the man.
"I know that he is picked by God for this hour," said Patricia Lage, an Iowa caucusgoer who spoke in support of Mr. Trump on Monday night in Carlisle, outside Des Moines. "There are things that he has done in the past, but we all have pasts. ".
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Ron DeSantis approaches a stage. A "DeSantis for President 2024" sign is on his left.
Mr. DeSantis taking the stage at a campaign stop at Jethro's BBQ in Ames, Iowa. Credit. Jordan Gale for The New York Times.
Mr. Trump has spent years tending to his voters — taking aim at their shared enemies and anticipating their grievances. He has compulsively tried to ensure that he was never out of step.
That preoccupation repeatedly drove his decisions in the White House, from refusing to wear a mask during the initial outbreak of Covid-19 in 2020 to his opposition to striking the names of Confederate generals from USA Military bases.
More recently, Mr. Trump has attacked Mr. DeSantis for signing a six-week abortion ban and avoided committing to a federal ban on the procedure, betting that his voters will either agree or forgive him for deviating from a core conservative priority.
Perhaps most significantly, he has rallied their support amid unprecedented legal troubles in part by describing the prosecution of him as an attempt to silence them.
"You and I have been in this battle side-by-side, together — and we have been taking on the entire corrupt system in Washington like no one has ever done before," Mr. Trump told Iowa supporters at a rally on Sunday, adding that the political establishment and global elites "are at war with us — we have to fight. ".
Voter anger at political institutions remains sky-high — a dynamic that explains what appears, at first glance, to be nothing short of a political magic act: The billionaire son of a multimillionaire has become the voice for working-class Americans.
"His gift is that the average voter in Iowa, New Hampshire and state after state feels like he connects with them," said David Bossie, Mr. Trump's deputy campaign manager in 2016. "he's a blue-collar billionaire. ".
Both Mr. DeSantis and Ms. Haley have tried to weaken Mr. Trump's ties to his supporters without issuing many direct attacks on Mr. Trump. But the race to emerge as the Trump alternative is becoming increasingly urgent, with limited time for the candidates to cement that standing.
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Nikki Haley, wearing a bright pink blazer, talks to a man holding a child in a rainbow color coat.
Ms. Haley talking with supporters at a Caucus Day stop at PB'S Pub in Newton, Iowa. Credit. Ruth Fremson / The New York Times.
Former Senator Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, a Haley supporter, lamented that much of his party had become "sort of a cult" around Mr. Trump. He still considers himself a Republican, though, and views Mr. Trump as the interloper.
"I don't think Trump's a Republican," Mr. Gregg said. "he's a demagogue. ".
David Kochel, a longtime Iowa Republican operative opposed to Mr. Trump, said the former president's bond with his voters was unlikely to be replicated by other candidates. The party has become more populist and anti-establishment, but Mr. Trump's ability to capitalize on his celebrity status while harnessing the swirling mix of anger at elites, racial grievances and mounting distrust of political, judicial and international institutions was, for now, unique.
"he's a unicorn in our party," Mr. Kochel said. "Republicans have become more populist and anti-establishment, but that doesn't mean the party will nominate Majorie Taylor Greene or Jim Jordan next. There's no going back to the old party. ".
MarquisdeSade1
01-16-24, 08:47
"Are most Americans stupid about the economy?
Your link and all available evidence strongly suggests the answer is Yes.
"Mr. Biden inherited a tough hand: an economy upset by Covid and supply chain disruptions. ".
Hey, no kidding.
Trump's claim that Biden's remarkable Recovery is the result of "running on the fumes" of what he did is, of course, a preposterous lie. Trump's first couple of years was coasting on the fumes of what Obama-Biden handed him. He didn't even pass his one ineffectual economic legislation until the last working day of 2017. A year later that godawful legislation was presiding over fewer jobs with it than without it, skyrocketing increases in the deficit and a 20%+ Bear Market decline in the broad stock market.
By stark contrast, Biden and his Dems proposed and passed several pieces of historic and positive economic legislation beginning early in his first year and those were in the system and on the table throughout the Great Dem Recovery and Historic Jobs Creation.
Also, the same typically pro Repub Mainstream Media that allowed Larry Summers and others to muse blithely and idiotically about Biden and the Dems not nailing the precise amount of stimulus to the dime necessary to recover the world from Trump's Pandemic with zero assurance that the historic, unprecedented health and economic set backs from it were truly over and while all previous electoral midterm patterns strongly suggesting there would be one and only one year to get it done also allowed Trump to lie for every year since that his Pandemic was simply something that "happened out of the blue" to the poor feller when the verifiable facts show his Classic Disastrous Repub economic and national security policies and stewardship over three years contributed more to producing Trump's Pandemic than any other human being on the planet.
And, as a Classic Repub, Trump would lay the groundwork for and blunder us into the next Great, Unprecedented, "Once in 100 Years" Repub Economic Disaster again ASAP, early and often.
That said, bear in mind polls can only telling us what poll respondents "say" to pollsters about how they feel. They can not tell us how they really feel. Voting results tell us how they really feel. And on that count, since 2020 voters have been telling us they definitely trust and believe Biden and the Dems "handle the economy better" than Repubs.
If anything, the greatest political risk for Biden and the Dems in 2024 is that their economic recovery and jobs creation results were so good for so many Americans that they are now free to fall for the usual sucker social issues and empty, jingoistic clap trap that Repub con men have had to run on instead of their disastrous economic and national security results since at least Nixon."
https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1747069957932716528?cxt=HBwW4Mewhdq3674wAAAA&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email
"Are most Americans stupid about the economy?
Your link and all available evidence strongly suggests the answer is Yes.
"Mr. Biden inherited a tough hand: an economy upset by Covid and supply chain disruptions. ".
Hey, no kidding.
Trump's claim that Biden's remarkable Recovery is the result of "running on the fumes" of what he did is, of course, a preposterous lie. Trump's first couple of years was coasting on the fumes of what Obama-Biden handed him. He didn't even pass his one ineffectual economic legislation until the last working day of 2017. A year later that godawful legislation was presiding over fewer jobs with it than without it, skyrocketing increases in the deficit and a 20%+ Bear Market decline in the broad stock market.
By stark contrast, Biden and his Dems proposed and passed several pieces of historic and positive economic legislation beginning early in his first year and those were in the system and on the table throughout the Great Dem Recovery and Historic Jobs Creation.
Also, the same typically pro Repub Mainstream Media that allowed Larry Summers and others to muse blithely and idiotically about Biden and the Dems not nailing the precise amount of stimulus to the dime necessary to recover the world from Trump's Pandemic with zero assurance that the historic, unprecedented health and economic set backs from it were truly over and while all previous electoral midterm patterns strongly suggesting there would be one and only one year to get it done also allowed Trump to lie for every year since that his Pandemic was simply something that "happened out of the blue" to the poor feller when the verifiable facts show his Classic Disastrous Repub economic and national security policies and stewardship over three years contributed more to producing Trump's Pandemic than any other human being on the planet.
ROTFLMMFAO, yes everyone is so stoopid except some old pervert writing on ISG in BKKNo. The other people who are not that stoopid are the 80+ Million who voted for Biden, the majority of voters who voted for the Dem in 1992,1996, 2000,2008, 2012, 2016, 2020, the ones who made history voting more Senate seats for the Dems and kept the Repub House Majority to a Getting Smaller and Smaller All The Time Pink Tinkle in 2022 and voted higher than usual numbers for Dem election victories in virtually every special election of the past 3+ years.
Sorry, I know being made aware of actual data, results and statistics causes Wingers' socks to roll up and down your legs and steam to shoot out of your ears.
MarquisdeSade1
01-16-24, 14:51
"Even without properly crediting Trump for spending 2018,2019 and all of 2020 laying the foundation for Trump's Pandemic and only crediting him with lying about it and handling it all wrong in critical year 2020, the studies show Trump is responsible for at least 40% of the American deaths from his Pandemic:
US could have averted 40% of Covid deaths, says panel examining Trump's policies.
The country began the pandemic with a degraded public health infrastructure, leading to more deaths than other high-income countries.
Feb. 11,2021.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/10/us-coronavirus-response-donald-trump-health-policy
And I hear some of those 400,000 (at a MINIMUM) Americans that Trump has Mass Murdered so far lived in Chicago and sometimes rode trains. ".
https://www.aol.com/police-search-suspect-man-lit-125907280.html
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01-16-24, 23:13
"I don't think Trump's a Republican," Mr. Gregg said. "he's a demagogue. ".
David Kochel, a longtime Iowa Republican operative opposed to Mr. Trump, said the former president's bond with his voters was unlikely to be replicated by other candidates. The party has become more populist and anti-establishment, but Mr. Trump's ability to capitalize on his celebrity status while harnessing the swirling mix of anger at elites, racial grievances and mounting distrust of political, judicial and international institutions was, for now, unique.
"he's a unicorn in our party," Mr. Kochel said. "Republicans have become more populist and anti-establishment, but that doesn't mean the party will nominate Majorie Taylor Greene or Jim Jordan next. There's no going back to the old party. ".Sigh. At least the NYT was not totally negative.
I read another take. Matt Taibbi was talking to another long time journalist Walter Klein about Trump and here is what was said:
Matt Taibbi: I've probably covered 30 Trump speeches over the years at differing times and Sioux Center, Iowa over the weekend to catch Trump. His address there, the runtime on that address was an hour and 48 minutes, which if you've covered campaigns, that's an eternity for a stump speech.
That's long even if you figure in all the people who introduce all the people who introduce the people who introduce the candidate, you almost never get over an hour, even if you include all those people.
Trump's own speech was an hour 48, and what's significant about that, and this is something that I caught from the first time I saw him in the 2015/2016 cycle, is that he gives off this vibe. He loves this shit. He loves being out there. He really enjoys playing to the crowd. He likes interacting with them. People yell things at him, he engages.
Sometimes people yell hostile things at him, he knows when to ignore those folks. He's like a good comedian. Good comedians know how to go in and feel out the crowd. But he loves doing it, and he has a million stories that he likes to share, and some of them are, they're just hilarious, there's no way around it. They're completely original, they're bizarre. They're often insulting.
I called it triumph the comic insult president mode. He was definitely there last weekend. He really doesn't like Ron DeSantis, even though DeSantis is kind of a non-factor for him polling-wise, I think Trump is going to enjoy going back in time and stepping on his corpse, even if he's out of the race still. Nikki Haley, he went after her half a dozen times, called her a bird brain, saying she was in the pockets of the open borders people, and-.
Walter Kirn: She's a globalist, "She likes the globe. ".
Matt Taibbi: "She likes the globe. " It was totally Jeff Spicoli, you know that scene where he goes in and Mr. Hand doesn't want to let him in class and Sean Penn is like, "This is US history, I knew it, I saw the globe. ".
Matt Taibbi: this whole shtick that he does with does Biden not being able to find the exit, it's like the funniest thing. There's no comedian in America who's doing something as funny as this.
Walter Kirn: Shecky Greene just died, Rickles is not with us. Yeah, you see, the other thing about Trump, and I'm just going to go for it because whenever I show affection for his skills as an insult comic or a performer, I'm accused of being a Putinite, and now I just love that, so I'm going to do a little of it.
He admits to less than noble emotions and motives, which the others will not. He says, "Yeah, I can't wait to grind them to dust or take revenge," or, "They betrayed me and I'm going to get them back. ".
Matt Taibbi: We saw this in, again, we saw this in the 2015/2016 cycle. The various politicians, who on that gigantic slate of candidates in that ridiculous race, they picked two strategies for dealing with Trump.
One was the high road, and those who picked the high road fared really badly if you remember Jeb Bush, his campaign basically imploded when he tried to ignore the Donald Trump's insults about his mother by saying, "My mother's the strongest woman I've ever known. ".
Trump interrupts and says, "Why isn't she running?" And that was it. Jeb was done in that moment. There was no longer any campaign.
This was interesting to me as well. Trump is ratings gold.
Taibbi: I saw this early in the cycle two elections ago. Trump basically looked at the presidential election campaign, which I'the suffered through covering five times beforehand and said, "Wow, this is a really shitty reality show. What would happen if we had a good reality show with a character like me who isn't completely full of shit every time he opens his mouth?" And that's what he did. He just got up there and said whatever he felt like, and it was gripping magnetic television, and the big difference financially for the networks was that they didn't have to stump for paid ads from the campaigns anymore. They could sell real ads to real advertisers for these events.
For the second Republican debate in 2015, CNN's ad rates were 40 times higher than normal. They were charging real advertisers enormous money just for the spectacle of Donald Trump.
So they didn't have to do this whole thing where, "We're going to put on this big show, so that the campaigns pay for it, essentially, with paid ads. We can put on an actually kick-ass reality show with this amazing character and get Procter & Gamble and other companies to pay us real money to do it, and that's why-.
Walter Kirn: So Trump is deliberately and effectively hurting their bottom line by not debating.
Matt Taibbi: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. CNN, I think in that one campaign cycle, they made a hundred million dollars more than they would have otherwise, they made a billion dollars in profit. MSNBC made something like 257 million in profit, it was between two and 300 million, and Fox was above, it was in the $1. 4 billion range for profit overall. Everybody made a ton of money in that Trump year, and it was all because Trump is good at this stuff. He realized that people, when they go to these campaign events, they expect to be given canned, lifeless speeches about things with no connection to their real lives. They've given up hope that any of these policies are actually going to end up impacting them.
As for why Trump is likely to win, Taibbi found this from a common man:
I remember talking to a Bernie voter in Winterset, Iowa who worked in a Walmart who was saying, "Here's why Trump is doing well, we've been here in Iowa forever, we see the candidates come in, they promise us stuff that never happens. Most of us work in companies. When the boss says something is going to happen, it happens the next day. " Trump has the authority that politicians don't have anymore because they haven't followed through.
End of link.
I had heard Trump rallies were the stuff of legend with people saying it was the most fun they have had in their life. And when I heard of this Biden routine, I had to check out a clip and found one here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4cR9zzOtR0.
Can anyone imagine Biden competing against that?
At this point, it is obvious to me that the networks like MSNBC and CNN are being propped up by the CIA and FBI. If Trump is ratings gold, what other reason is there to piss him off so much?
MSNBC did not show Trump's victory speech and said his winning Iowa was a victory for white supremacy. Yeesh.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/16/us/politics/trump-iowa-win-voters.html
The Most Durable Force in American Politics: Trump's Ties to His Voters.
If Donald Trump's rivals want to stop his rise, they'll need to break his bond with his supporters. They didn't come close in Iowa.
Donald Trump wears a white hat and pumps his fist onstage. The hat says "Trump Caucus Captain. " Visible but out of focus in the foreground is a person making a heart shape with their hands.
Former President Donald Trump at a rally in Indianola, Iowa, the day before the state caucuses. Credit. Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times.
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Bill Clinton once explained the nation's two political parties by saying that Democrats want to fall in love while Republicans want to fall in line.
That adage has not withstood the Trump era. Today, it is Republicans who are besotted.
Donald J. Trump's decisive victory in Iowa revealed a new depth to the reservoir of devotion inside his party. For eight years, he has nurtured a relationship with his supporters with little precedent in politics. He validates them, he entertains them, he speaks for them and he uses them for his political and legal advantage.
This connection a hard-earned bond for some, a cult of personality to others has unleashed one the most durable forces in American politics.
Iowa Republicans, following the lead of party officials across the country, rallied behind the former president despite a list of reasons to reject him. Republicans lost control of the presidency, the Senate and the House during his four years in office. He failed to deliver the red wave of victories he promised in the 2022 midterms. He has been charged with 91 felonies in four criminal cases this past year.
And they stayed with him even as they were offered viable alternatives: Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, a popular, young governor who embraced Mr. Trump's policies, and Nikki Haley, one of the Deep South's first female governors, who credibly promised she could win back voters Mr. Trump drove away.
Yet in the first chance Americans had to cast judgment on Mr. Trump since he tried to overthrow an election, many Iowa Republicans made clear they don't judge him. They adore him.
"Trump is not a candidate, he's the leader of a national movement," said Newt Gingrich, a former House speaker who has advised Mr. Trump. "No one has come to grips with what's it like to take on the champion of a movement. That's why even as all these legal issues pile up, it just infuriates his movement and increases their anger unbelievably. ".
The risks associated with the kind of unusually strong hold Mr. Trump maintains on the party have already emerged.
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Supporters cheering for Mr. Trump at a rally in Indianola, Iowa. Credit. Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times.
He has encouraged supporters to view him as above fault or defeat, a mindset that can lead to the kind of political violence that shocked the nation during the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021. Elevating charisma over character can open the door to the kind of authoritarianism that Mr. Trump has promised on the campaign trail this past year.
"A lot of the people that support Donald Trump really are fed up with democracy, representative democracy, they think that an authoritarian-style government would probably be preferable at this point, in order to save the nation or whatever," said former Representative Charles Bass, a New Hampshire Republican who previously voted for Mr. Trump, but said he would not do so again. "I don't think they feel threatened by having somebody who at least has the trappings of being more authoritarian than past presidents. ".
Although Mr. Trump's win was resounding, the Iowa results suggest the party remains deeply divided over his return to power. Roughly half of Iowa Republicans voted for one of Mr. Trump's rivals, including about 20 percent who backed Mr. DeSantis, who finished in second, with Ms. Haley close behind.
Republicans who resisted Mr. Trump in Iowa included the party's youngest voters and anti-abortion-rights conservatives who backed Mr. DeSantis, according to entrance polls.
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The mood at the DeSantis watch party was anger and disbelief over how fast the call was made.
Trump invested in a muscular turnout operation, and it paid off.
Similarly, Ms. Haley won moderate voters, Republicans who believed Mr. Trump lost the 2020 election, those who support a muscular foreign policy and the segment of the party that prioritized temperament in their choice for a presidential nominee.
Party strategists and officials in other states caution against drawing sweeping conclusions from the votes of a narrow slice of Republicans in a small state. As the Republican nominating contest moves to New Hampshire next week, one poll this month showed Ms. Haley within striking distance of Mr. Trump. The state's voters tend to be more moderate and less religious, suggesting an opening for her.
Mr. DeSantis's ability to threaten Mr. Trump is less clear. He marketed himself to voters as a Trumpian wunderkind, able to deliver America First policies without the drama and chaos that often trail the former president.
But MAGA Nation rivals the Queen's Guard when it comes to standing at the ready to defend their sovereign, and Mr. DeSantis was turned back as Republicans showed they are less interested in policies than they are the man.
"I know that he is picked by God for this hour," said Patricia Lage, an Iowa caucusgoer who spoke in support of Mr. Trump on Monday night in Carlisle, outside Des Moines. "There are things that he has done in the past, but we all have pasts. ".
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Ron DeSantis approaches a stage. A "DeSantis for President 2024" sign is on his left.
Mr. DeSantis taking the stage at a campaign stop at Jethro's BBQ in Ames, Iowa. Credit. Jordan Gale for The New York Times.
Mr. Trump has spent years tending to his voters taking aim at their shared enemies and anticipating their grievances. He has compulsively tried to ensure that he was never out of step.
That preoccupation repeatedly drove his decisions in the White House, from refusing to wear a mask during the initial outbreak of Covid-19 in 2020 to his opposition to striking the names of Confederate generals from USA Military bases.
More recently, Mr. Trump has attacked Mr. DeSantis for signing a six-week abortion ban and avoided committing to a federal ban on the procedure, betting that his voters will either agree or forgive him for deviating from a core conservative priority.
Perhaps most significantly, he has rallied their support amid unprecedented legal troubles in part by describing the prosecution of him as an attempt to silence them.
"You and I have been in this battle side-by-side, together and we have been taking on the entire corrupt system in Washington like no one has ever done before," Mr. Trump told Iowa supporters at a rally on Sunday, adding that the political establishment and global elites "are at war with us we have to fight. ".
Voter anger at political institutions remains sky-high a dynamic that explains what appears, at first glance, to be nothing short of a political magic act: The billionaire son of a multimillionaire has become the voice for working-class Americans.
"His gift is that the average voter in Iowa, New Hampshire and state after state feels like he connects with them," said David Bossie, Mr. Trump's deputy campaign manager in 2016. "he's a blue-collar billionaire. ".
Both Mr. DeSantis and Ms. Haley have tried to weaken Mr. Trump's ties to his supporters without issuing many direct attacks on Mr. Trump. But the race to emerge as the Trump alternative is becoming increasingly urgent, with limited time for the candidates to cement that standing.
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Nikki Haley, wearing a bright pink blazer, talks to a man holding a child in a rainbow color coat.
Ms. Haley talking with supporters at a Caucus Day stop at PB'S Pub in Newton, Iowa. Credit. Ruth Fremson / The New York Times.
Former Senator Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, a Haley supporter, lamented that much of his party had become "sort of a cult" around Mr. Trump. He still considers himself a Republican, though, and views Mr. Trump as the interloper.
"I don't think Trump's a Republican," Mr. Gregg said. "he's a demagogue. ".
David Kochel, a longtime Iowa Republican operative opposed to Mr. Trump, said the former president's bond with his voters was unlikely to be replicated by other candidates. The party has become more populist and anti-establishment, but Mr. Trump's ability to capitalize on his celebrity status while harnessing the swirling mix of anger at elites, racial grievances and mounting distrust of political, judicial and international institutions was, for now, unique.
"he's a unicorn in our party," Mr. Kochel said. "Republicans have become more populist and anti-establishment, but that doesn't mean the party will nominate Majorie Taylor Greene or Jim Jordan next. There's no going back to the old party. ".This Year's Iowa Caucus Is On Track For Lowest Turnout Since 2000 https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/15/us/politics/iowa-caucus-turnout-cold.html.
Lower than the last time there was a Repub Caucus in Iowa in 2016.
His percentage in the Caucus was the lowest of any candidate who had already been president. A large percentage of Repub numbskulls in attendance actually consider him to be the CURRENT incumbent. LOL.
Trump's gift appears to be engendering more and more love from the dramatically shrinking smaller and smaller number of suckers he can continue to con the more everyone gets to know him better.
I really do wonder how much longer pollsters need to work and how many more contacts they need to make in order to finally sample roughly as many self-described Repubs and Repubs pretending to be "Independents" as proudly self-described Dems before they can post those poll results that even on the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site consensus only squeezes out less than half of a normal +/- Margin of Error statistical tie with Biden after Trump has been campaigning since January 2021 and Biden has been busy producing a historic jobs creation, economic and national security recovery since then and only given a couple of campaign speeches over the past 2 weeks or so.
Sigh. At least the NYT was not totally negative.
I read another take. Matt Taibbi was talking to another long time journalist Walter Klein about Trump and here is what was said:
Matt Taibbi: I've probably covered 30 Trump speeches over the years at differing times and Sioux Center, Iowa over the weekend to catch Trump. His address there, the runtime on that address was an hour and 48 minutes, which if you've covered campaigns, that's an eternity for a stump speech.
That's long even if you figure in all the people who introduce all the people who introduce the people who introduce the candidate, you almost never get over an hour, even if you include all those people.
Trump's own speech was an hour 48, and what's significant about that, and this is something that I caught from the first time I saw him in the 2015/2016 cycle, is that he gives off this vibe. He loves this shit. He loves being out there. He really enjoys playing to the crowd. He likes interacting with them. People yell things at him, he engages.
Sometimes people yell hostile things at him, he knows when to ignore those folks. He's like a good comedian. Good comedians know how to go in and feel out the crowd. But he loves doing it, and he has a million stories that he likes to share, and some of them are, they're just hilarious, there's no way around it. They're completely original, they're bizarre. They're often insulting.
I called it triumph the comic insult president mode. He was definitely there last weekend. He really doesn't like Ron DeSantis, even though DeSantis is kind of a non-factor for him polling-wise, I think Trump is going to enjoy going back in time and stepping on his corpse, even if he's out of the race still. Nikki Haley, he went after her half a dozen times, called her a bird brain, saying she was in the pockets of the open borders people, and-.
Walter Kirn: She's a globalist, "She likes the globe. ".
Matt Taibbi: "She likes the globe. " It was totally Jeff Spicoli, you know that scene where he goes in and Mr. Hand doesn't want to let him in class and Sean Penn is like, "This is US history, I knew it, I saw the globe. ".
Matt Taibbi: this whole shtick that he does with does Biden not being able to find the exit, it's like the funniest thing. There's no comedian in America who's doing something as funny as this.
Walter Kirn: Shecky Greene just died, Rickles is not with us. Yeah, you see, the other thing about Trump, and I'm just going to go for it because whenever I show affection for his skills as an insult comic or a performer, I'm accused of being a Putinite, and now I just love that, so I'm going to do a little of it.
He admits to less than noble emotions and motives, which the others will not. He says, "Yeah, I can't wait to grind them to dust or take revenge," or, "They betrayed me and I'm going to get them back. ".
Matt Taibbi: We saw this in, again, we saw this in the 2015/2016 cycle. The various politicians, who on that gigantic slate of candidates in that ridiculous race, they picked two strategies for dealing with Trump.
One was the high road, and those who picked the high road fared really badly if you remember Jeb Bush, his campaign basically imploded when he tried to ignore the Donald Trump's insults about his mother by saying, "My mother's the strongest woman I've ever known. ".
Trump interrupts and says, "Why isn't she running?" And that was it. Jeb was done in that moment. There was no longer any campaign.
This was interesting to me as well. Trump is ratings gold.
Taibbi: I saw this early in the cycle two elections ago. Trump basically looked at the presidential election campaign, which I'the suffered through covering five times beforehand and said, "Wow, this is a really shitty reality show. What would happen if we had a good reality show with a character like me who isn't completely full of shit every time he opens his mouth?" And that's what he did. He just got up there and said whatever he felt like, and it was gripping magnetic television, and the big difference financially for the networks was that they didn't have to stump for paid ads from the campaigns anymore. They could sell real ads to real advertisers for these events.
For the second Republican debate in 2015, CNN's ad rates were 40 times higher than normal. They were charging real advertisers enormous money just for the spectacle of Donald Trump.
So they didn't have to do this whole thing where, "We're going to put on this big show, so that the campaigns pay for it, essentially, with paid ads. We can put on an actually kick-ass reality show with this amazing character and get Procter & Gamble and other companies to pay us real money to do it, and that's why-.
Walter Kirn: So Trump is deliberately and effectively hurting their bottom line by not debating.
Matt Taibbi: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. CNN, I think in that one campaign cycle, they made a hundred million dollars more than they would have otherwise, they made a billion dollars in profit. MSNBC made something like 257 million in profit, it was between two and 300 million, and Fox was above, it was in the $1. 4 billion range for profit overall. Everybody made a ton of money in that Trump year, and it was all because Trump is good at this stuff. He realized that people, when they go to these campaign events, they expect to be given canned, lifeless speeches about things with no connection to their real lives. They've given up hope that any of these policies are actually going to end up impacting them.
As for why Trump is likely to win, Taibbi found this from a common man:
I remember talking to a Bernie voter in Winterset, Iowa who worked in a Walmart who was saying, "Here's why Trump is doing well, we've been here in Iowa forever, we see the candidates come in, they promise us stuff that never happens. Most of us work in companies. When the boss says something is going to happen, it happens the next day. " Trump has the authority that politicians don't have anymore because they haven't followed through.
End of link.
I had heard Trump rallies were the stuff of legend with people saying it was the most fun they have had in their life. And when I heard of this Biden routine, I had to check out a clip and found one here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4cR9zzOtR0.
Can anyone imagine Biden competing against that?
At this point, it is obvious to me that the networks like MSNBC and CNN are being propped up by the CIA and FBI. If Trump is ratings gold, what other reason is there to piss him off so much?
MSNBC did not show Trump's victory speech and said his winning Iowa was a victory for white supremacy. Yeesh.MSNBC's stated policy is not to knowingly air blatant lies for obvious license, credibility, civil / legal liability and, well, patriotic reasons. In the case of a Trump speech, that means clearing it and fact-checking it before they air so much as a single sentence of it. Unlike Fux News, MSNBC would rather not pay $787 Million in a hot minute settlement in exchange for helping Trump win an election so he can produce more "A Once in 100 Years DISASTER Has STRUCK"! Headlines and topics for them to improve their ratings by covering it.
I for one appreciate that in a news organization.
Why doesn't the Repub Base just write in a dead Don Rickles or a dead Shecky Greene if they like that style of presidential policy and stewardship? It shouldn't take much to convince them that there are Rickles and Greene sightings all the time so they must still be alive.
MarquisdeSade1
01-17-24, 15:14
"Sigh. At least the NYT was not totally negative.
I read another take. Matt Taibbi was talking to another long time journalist Walter Klein about Trump and here is what was said:
Matt Taibbi: I've probably covered 30 Trump speeches over the years at differing times and Sioux Center, Iowa over the weekend to catch Trump. His address there, the runtime on that address was an hour and 48 minutes, which if you've covered campaigns, that's an eternity for a stump speech.
That's long even if you figure in all the people who introduce all the people who introduce the people who introduce the candidate, you almost never get over an hour, even if you include all those people.
Trump's own speech was an hour 48, and what's significant about that, and this is something that I caught from the first time I saw him in the 2015/2016 cycle, is that he gives off this vibe. He loves this shit. He loves being out there. He really enjoys playing to the crowd. He likes interacting with them. People yell things at him, he engages.
Sometimes people yell hostile things at him, he knows when to ignore those folks. He's like a good comedian. Good comedians know how to go in and feel out the crowd. But he loves doing it, and he has a million stories that he likes to share, and some of them are, they're just hilarious, there's no way around it. They're completely original, they're bizarre. They're often insulting.
I called it triumph the comic insult president mode. He was definitely there last weekend. He really doesn't like Ron DeSantis, even though DeSantis is kind of a non-factor for him polling-wise, I think Trump is going to enjoy going back in time and stepping on his corpse, even if he's out of the race still. Nikki Haley, he went after her half a dozen times, called her a bird brain, saying she was in the pockets of the open borders people, and-.
Walter Kirn: She's a globalist, "She likes the globe. ".
Matt Taibbi: "She likes the globe. " It was totally Jeff Spicoli, you know that scene where he goes in and Mr. Hand doesn't want to let him in class and Sean Penn is like, "This is US history, I knew it, I saw the globe. ".
Matt Taibbi: this whole shtick that he does with does Biden not being able to find the exit, it's like the funniest thing. There's no comedian in America who's doing something as funny as this.
Walter Kirn: Shecky Greene just died, Rickles is not with us. Yeah, you see, the other thing about Trump, and I'm just going to go for it because whenever I show affection for his skills as an insult comic or a performer, I'm accused of being a Putinite, and now I just love that, so I'm going to do a little of it.
He admits to less than noble emotions and motives, which the others will not. He says, "Yeah, I can't wait to grind them to dust or take revenge," or, "They betrayed me and I'm going to get them back. ".
Matt Taibbi: We saw this in, again, we saw this in the 2015/2016 cycle. The various politicians, who on that gigantic slate of candidates in that ridiculous race, they picked two strategies for dealing with Trump.
One was the high road, and those who picked the high road fared really badly if you remember Jeb Bush, his campaign basically imploded when he tried to ignore the Donald Trump's insults about his mother by saying, "My mother's the strongest woman I've ever known. ".
Trump interrupts and says, "Why isn't she running?" And that was it. Jeb was done in that moment. There was no longer any campaign.
This was interesting to me as well. Trump is ratings gold.
Taibbi: I saw this early in the cycle two elections ago. Trump basically looked at the presidential election campaign, which I'the suffered through covering five times beforehand and said, "Wow, this is a really shitty reality show. What would happen if we had a good reality show with a character like me who isn't completely full of shit every time he opens his mouth?" And that's what he did. He just got up there and said whatever he felt like, and it was gripping magnetic television, and the big difference financially for the networks was that they didn't have to stump for paid ads from the campaigns anymore. They could sell real ads to real advertisers for these events.
For the second Republican debate in 2015, CNN's ad rates were 40 times higher than normal. They were charging real advertisers enormous money just for the spectacle of Donald Trump.
So they didn't have to do this whole thing where, "We're going to put on this big show, so that the campaigns pay for it, essentially, with paid ads. We can put on an actually kick-ass reality show with this amazing character and get Procter & Gamble and other companies to pay us real money to do it, and that's why-.
Walter Kirn: So Trump is deliberately and effectively hurting their bottom line by not debating.
Matt Taibbi: Oh, absolutely. Yeah. CNN, I think in that one campaign cycle, they made a hundred million dollars more than they would have otherwise, they made a billion dollars in profit. MSNBC made something like 257 million in profit, it was between two and 300 million, and Fox was above, it was in the $1. 4 billion range for profit overall. Everybody made a ton of money in that Trump year, and it was all because Trump is good at this stuff. He realized that people, when they go to these campaign events, they expect to be given canned, lifeless speeches about things with no connection to their real lives. They've given up hope that any of these policies are actually going to end up impacting them.
As for why Trump is likely to win, Taibbi found this from a common man:
I remember talking to a Bernie voter in Winterset, Iowa who worked in a Walmart who was saying, "Here's why Trump is doing well, we've been here in Iowa forever, we see the candidates come in, they promise us stuff that never happens. Most of us work in companies. When the boss says something is going to happen, it happens the next day. " Trump has the authority that politicians don't have anymore because they haven't followed through.
End of link.
I had heard Trump rallies were the stuff of legend with people saying it was the most fun they have had in their life. And when I heard of this Biden routine, I had to check out a clip and found one here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4cR9zzOtR0.
Can anyone imagine Biden competing against that?
At this point, it is obvious to me that the networks like MSNBC and CNN are being propped up by the CIA and FBI. If Trump is ratings gold, what other reason is there to piss him off so much?
MSNBC did not show Trump's victory speech and said his winning Iowa was a victory for white supremacy. Yeesh. ".
3 cheers for WHITE SUPREMACY ROTFLMMFAO.
https://youtube.com/shorts/4H8I6-5gjqE?si=MNUxXjyXDhT8c4xJ
At this point, it is obvious to me that the networks like MSNBC and CNN are being propped up by the CIA and FBI.
Yes Sir they are much worse than Pravda and Xinhua!!
And NYT are a bunch of whoors for the CCP.
Maybe Elvis just dreamed up that part.
Taibbi: I saw this early in the cycle two elections ago. Trump basically looked at the presidential election campaign, which I'the suffered through covering five times beforehand and said, "Wow, this is a really shitty reality show. What would happen if we had a good reality show with a character like me who isn't completely full of shit every time he opens his mouth?"
.....
MSNBC did not show Trump's victory speech and said his winning Iowa was a victory for white supremacy. Yeesh. ".
3 cheers for WHITE SUPREMACY ROTFLMMFAO.
https://youtube.com/shorts/4H8I6-5gjqE?si=MNUxXjyXDhT8c4xJ
At this point, it is obvious to me that the networks like MSNBC and CNN are being propped up by the CIA and FBI..Here's the problem: Trump IS completely full of shit every time he opens his mouth. Officially, verifiably, provably, personally, legally and fully substantiated by the facts and the record.
Which I assume would come as a shock to ignorant numbskulls like Matt Taibbi. And that is hilarious! I mean, isn't he supposed to be a journalist or something? LOL.
Whatever.
I suppose we'll have to file the very special response a Real News outlet gives to a Donald J. Trump speech that cannot be factchecked on the fly under a "Mrs. Gump, your boy is (pause) different" category.
Personal and business legal affairs of Donald Trump:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_and_business_legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump#text=Investors%20 are%20 suing%20 Donald%20 Trump, scheduled%20 for%20 January%2029%2 see%202024.
From the 1970s until he was elected president in 2016, Donald Trump and his businesses were involved in over 4,000 legal cases in U.S. federal and state courts, including battles with casino patrons, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes. He has also been accused of sexual harassment and sexual assault, with one accusation resulting in Trump being held civilly liable.
In 2015, his lawyer Alan Garten called this "a natural part of doing business" in the United States. While litigation is indeed common in the real estate industry, Trump has been involved in more legal cases than his fellow magnates Edward J. DeBartolo Jr., Donald Bren, Stephen M. Ross, Sam Zell, and Larry Silverstein combined.
Numerous legal affairs persisted during Trump's presidency. Since he left office, multiple investigations focus on him:My God. Somebody tell that poor Matt Taibbi dude to do a little research before he opens his pie hole. Educate himself! His beloved hack Comedian In Chief has had to pay Tens of Millions of dollars for perpetrating innumerable con jobs and frauds.
Elvis 2008
01-17-24, 19:16
MSNBC's stated policy is not to knowingly air blatant lies for obvious license, credibility, civil / legal liability and, well, patriotic reasons. In the case of a Trump speech, that means clearing it and fact-checking it before they air so much as a single sentence of it. Unlike Fux News, MSNBC would rather not pay $787 Million in a hot minute settlement in exchange for helping Trump win an election so he can produce more "A Once in 100 Years DISASTER Has STRUCK"! Headlines and topics for them to improve their ratings by covering it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnMs9358nVU
Go to the 3:23 mark.
Matt Taibbi: But hey, before we move on, should we address this thing that happened with Abby Phillip and Vivek Ramaswamy? I know Jimmy Dore already did a bit on it, but this is one of the weirdest things that I've seen on TV. I was just wondered if you agreed or not.
Walter Kirn: Abby Phillip being the CNN moderator at a Ramaswamy town hall, it happened in December, and the setup here is that yeah, I do think it's worth addressing because it was one of the most overt interventions by a state media representative in American television that I've ever seen. State media representative-.
Matt Taibbi: I've never seen anything like it.
Walter Kirn: . She set Ramaswamy up with a question about January 6th, and comments he made about it having been to some extent, quote, an inside job or having involved undercover agitators or something from-.
Matt Taibbi: About which I take no position. I'm assuming you don't either, but.
Walter Kirn: Right. You mean on the truth of that?
Matt Taibbi: Yeah.
Walter Kirn: Well, I don't take any position on it. I will say that as a news watcher, a reporter, and a friend of other reporters, I know there were various agents-.
Matt Taibbi: Oh, well, we know that. Mm-hmm.
Walter Kirn: But in any case, Ramaswamy, in other words, wasn't talking about pure fantasy: he was emphasizing something and interpreting something in a strong way. But she came in like she was, I don't know, his minder or a disciplinarian sent from headquarters and wouldn't let him speak, started interrupting him, kept saying, "I have to interrupt you. I don't want to have to interrupt you again," talking over him, not letting him answer her own question, her own prejudicial setup.
Matt Taibbi: Can we just play a few minutes of this? I'm sorry. It's just so amazing.
Walter Kirn: Yeah, it's mesmerizing.
Matt Taibbi: I think we can probably stop here, right? It just keeps going on and on like that, but I can't remember an interview like that. Can you? Jimmy Dore's bit was hilarious. It was like somebody was yelling in her earphone, "Don't let him say that. " It did feel like that.
Walter Kirn: That's how it works: of course somebody was yelling in her ear. And they're just stepping forth now and making themselves principles in the play. No longer are they trying to elicit statements from the main actors: they are the actors. And she's very sorry, but she, "Has to interrupt," she kept saying. It was almost as if she'the had a stun gun, she would've administered shocks and said, "Mr. Ramaswamy, I'm afraid I'm going to have to turn up the voltage now. I'm going to have to shock you again. You just made another statement: that gets you another shock," and the audience applauding against her, she's got something going in her ear, Ramaswamy is attempting to speak and it's all a subject that she broached. In other words, "I'the like you to defend yourself. Now, once you've started defending yourself, I'm going to have to interrupt and stop you from doing that."
Matt Taibbi: I feel bad for her because it was pretty clear that she didn't know a thing about the subject. I guess it's her job to know that.
Walter Kirn: Man, is that because of your Roman Catholic upbringing?
Matt Taibbi: Maybe it is, yeah.
Walter Kirn: I don't feel bad for anyone on TV. Anybody who's making those TV bucks and getting that good health insurance and wearing those red dresses, and getting out there with the heaters of the world.
Matt Taibbi: Having lunch at Whole Foods in the basement.
Walter Kirn:
Exactly, getting high-fived at Erewhon in LA. What we're going to see more and more is this discourse policing as an overt act by journalists. They want to control the thermostat, okay? They see themselves as guardians of the information thermostat, and if anybody tries to adjust it without permission, they grab it again and say hands off that thermostat.
Walter Kirn: That was weird too. It is her job to always make the favorable interpretation for the federal government?
Matt Taibbi: Yeah. Why should she care?
Walter Kirn: he had a point.
Matt Taibbi: I don't care.
Walter Kirn:
Yeah, that's the thing: why do they care so badly? And that's a mystery to me still, Matt. Is their monopoly on airport broadcasting that valuable? I think it's probably something like that. Dude, we've got Don Lemon now peeling off for X from CNN, and his whole schtick is that he's now going to speak the truth. The manacles are off: it's Don Lemon unchained.
Matt Taibbi: Wow. What's that going to be like?
Walter Kirn: We have no idea because any CNN host is so oppressed by the fact they're on CNN, you know? I've got to say, Chris Cuomo unchained is a lot more interesting than the CNN Chris Cuomo.
Matt Taibbi: It's true. Yep. Mm-hmm.
Walter Kirn: They're leaving the brainwashing program one by one. We're going to have Abby Phillip the way she really is someday.
Matt Taibbi: Right, and that's going to be awesome. I can't wait.
Walter Kirn: I can't wait.
Matt Taibbi: Yeah. But this policing mid-question is a new thing. I haven't seen that before. But we've been talking all year about this anti-disinformation stuff, and going in afterwards, and surgically removing something somebody said, or deamplifying it or whatever. But at the point of a live interview, intervening to make sure that somebody doesn't squeeze something out that might be heard by.
Walter Kirn: Dude, it was a town hall. It was an event to which people had come to hear Vivek Ramaswamy's views. That's why they were there. That's why it was on TV. And she's like, "I'm going to have to put my hand over your mouth. " Even if he was saying manifestly crazy things, the point was to let him speak.
Matt Taibbi: This kind of thing makes people want to hang journalists from yardarms. I'm sorry, it's the truth: I saw this developing during the 2015,2016 campaign, we got ritualistically Jared at the beginning, but then as things got more heated and the stories about Trump got more pointed, it got a little scary there for a little bit. People started to really despise the people in the press section, and you could feel it was mutual. There's no question about that. To this day, when you go out and try to interview people in the lines of Trump events, they are very hands-off. Unless they know who you are, they're not going to talk. And that is a new phenomenon. That was not like that even 8 years ago, or 10 or 12 years ago.
Walter Kirn: Matt, I just came up with a new debate format: you'll have Donald Trump at one lectern, and then the other lectern will be Abby Phillip, and Joe Biden will moderate.
Matt Taibbi: That's right.
Walter Kirn: Exactly: why not just have the candidates debate someone in the press, while the other candidate feeds leading questions? Because-.
Matt Taibbi: You could just interchange them because they're all the same anyway. It could be Jen Psaki for one question, and then, I don't know, I won't put Chris Hayes into this, but you know who I'm talking about. There's this endlessly. Chuck Todd, Karine Jean-Pierre.
Walter Kirn: Right, okay, so-.
Matt Taibbi: You can just cycle them endlessly.
Walter Kirn: Trump should debate Rachel Maddow with Kamala Harris asking the questions. That would probably be more revealing.
Matt Taibbi: It would be way more interesting.
Walter Kirn: Right, exactly. But that's what was happening here: we were seeing Abby Phillip acting as a surrogate for some kind of hive-mind at CNN that was debating Vivek Ramaswamy at what was supposedly a solo town hall at which she was just supposed to ask questions. But journalists now answer the questions too. So in other words, the whole thing has come full-circle. Is it not the natural evolution of narcissistic journalism that, "I not only write the story, I am the story. I not only ask the questions, I answer them. "?
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Yeah, Trump debating Rachel Mad Cow with Kamala asking the questions would be the Democratic douche version of fairness.
MarquisdeSade1
01-18-24, 03:10
The Deification of Donald Trump Poses Some Interesting Questions.
Jan. 17,2024.
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On Oct. 15,2020, in a rare display of humility, Donald Trump told a campaign rally in Greenville, and. See. , that he was not as famous as Jesus Christ.
"Somebody said to me the other day, 'You're the most famous person in the world, by far. ' I said, 'No, I'm not. ' They said, 'Yes, you are. I said no. ' They said, 'Who's more famous?' I said, 'Jesus Christ. '.
This exhibition of modesty was out of character.
Trump, his family and his supporters have been more than willing to claim that Trump is ordained by God for a special mission, to restore America as a Christian nation.
In recent weeks, for example, the former president posted a video called "God Made Trump" on Truth Social that was produced by a conservative media group technically independent of the Trump campaign. He has also screened it at campaign rallies.
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The video begins as a narrator with a voice reminiscent of Paul Harvey's declares: "On June 14,1946, God looked down on his planned paradise and said: 'I need a caretaker. ' So God gave us Trump. ".
Why was Trump chosen? The video continues:
God had to have someone willing to go into the den of vipers. Call out the fake news for their tongues as sharp as a serpent's. The poison of vipers is on their lips. So God made Trump.
The video claims to quote God directly:
God said, "I will need someone who will be strong and courageous. Who will not be afraid or terrified of wolves when they attack. A man who cares for the flock. A shepherd to mankind who won't ever leave or forsake them. I need the most diligent worker to follow the path and remain strong in faith. And know the belief in God and country. ".
The "God Made Trump" video was created by the Dilley Meme Team, described by Ken Bensinger of The Times as.
An organized collective of video producers who call themselves "Trump's Online War Machine. " The group's leader, Brenden Dilley, characterizes himself as Christian and a man of faith but says he has never read the Bible and does not attend church. He says that Mr. Trump has "God-tier genetics" and, in response to the outcry over the "God Made Trump" video, Dilley posted a meme depicting Mr. Trump as Moses parting the Red Sea.
The video, along with Eric Trump's claim that his father "literally saved Christianity" and the image Donald Trump reposted on Truth Social of Jesus sitting next to him in court, raises a question: Does Trump believe that he is God's messenger, or are his direct and indirect claims to have a special relationship with God a cynical ploy to win evangelical votes?
I posed this and other questions to Barry Hankins, a professor of history at Baylor and the editor of The Journal of Church and State. Hankins replied by email: "Over the years since, there has been a growing chorus of voices saying Trump is the defender of Christians and Christianity. Trump says this himself all the time, 'When they come after me, they're really coming after you. '.
There are photos, Hankins continued, "of evangelicals laying hands on him in the Oval Office, which is something that Christians do when they ordain pastors or commission missionaries, or Jan. 6 insurrectionists carrying large crosses and praying as they attack the Capitol. People at his rallies carrying signs that say, 'Thank you, Lord Jesus, for President Trump. ' And on and on. ".
I asked Hankins whether Trump's evangelical supporters "see him as a Jesus-like figure. ".
Hankins replied, "I think 'Jesus-like' is well put. When the indictments came down during Lent last spring, there were references to the powers of government going after Trump like the Roman Empire went after Jesus. ".
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Trump's evolution into a Jesus-like figure for some but not all white evangelicals began soon after he began his first presidential campaign. As David P. Gushee, a professor of Christian ethics at Mercer University, explained by email:
Some of Trump's Christian followers do appear to have grown to see him as a kind of religious figure. He is a savior. I think it began with the sense that he was uniquely committed to saving them from their foes (liberals, Democrats, elites, seculars, illegal immigrants, etc.) and saving America from all that threatens it.
In this sense, Gushee continued, "a savior does not have to be a good person but just needs to fulfill his divinely appointed role. Trump is seen by many as actually having done so while president. ".
This view of Trump is especially strong "in the Pentecostal wing of the conservative Christian world," Gushee wrote, where.
He is sometimes also viewed as an anointed leader sent by God. "Anointed" here means set apart and especially equipped by God for a holy task. Sometimes the most unlikely people got anointed by God in the Bible. So Trump's unlikeliness for this role is actually evidence in favor.
The multiple criminal charges against Trump serve to strengthen the belief of many evangelicals about his ties to God, according to Gushee:
The prosecutions underway against Trump have been easily interpretable as signs of persecution, which can then connect to the suffering Jesus theme in Christianity. Trump has been able to leverage that with lines like, "They're not persecuting me. They're persecuting you. " The idea that he is unjustly suffering and, in so doing, vicariously absorbing the suffering that his followers would be enduring is a powerful way for Trump to be identified with Jesus.
Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, gave voice to this phenomenon when she protested the filing of criminal charges against Trump. On her way to a pro-Trump rally in Manhattan on April 3, 2023, she told Brian Glenn of the Right Side Broadcasting Network:
Jesus was arrested and murdered by the Roman government. There have been many people throughout history that have been arrested and persecuted by radical, corrupt governments, and it's beginning today in New York City, and I just can't believe it's happening, but I'll always support him. He's done nothing wrong.
The more interesting case, Gushee wrote.
Is Trump himself. I accept as given that he entered politics as the amoral, worldly, narcissistic New York businessman that he appeared to be. Like all G. O. P. Politicians, he knew he would have to win over the conservative Christian voting bloc so central to the party.
If people wanted to make him out to be savior, anointed one and agent of God, he would not object. It enhanced their attention and loyalty and his power over and in this group. Lacking any inner spiritual or moral compass that would seek to deflect overinflated or even idolatrous claims about himself, he instead reposted their artwork and videos and so on. Anyone truly serious about the Christian faith would deflect claims to being a savior or anointed one, but he did not have such brakes operating. I do not suppose that he actually believed himself to be any of these things, but others did, and it helped him, and it fed his ego, so why stand in the way?
Certain denominations among evangelicals are more willing to believe Trump is God's messenger than others. John Fea, a professor at Messiah University in Pennsylvania, wrote by email that.
There are evangelicals of the charismatic and Pentecostal variety — the so-called New Apostolic Reformation or Independent Network Charismatics — who believe that Donald Trump is an agent of God to rescue the United States from the atheistic, even demonic, secularists and progressives who want to destroy the country by advancing abortion, gay marriage, wokeness, transgenderism, etc.
"This whole movement," Fea wrote.
Is rooted in prophecy. The prophets speak directly to God and receive direct messages from him about politics. They think that politics is a form of spiritual warfare and believe that God is using Donald Trump to help wage this war. (God can even use sinners to accomplish his will — there are a lot of biblical examples of this, they say.).
But even this group of Christians does not see Trump as the messiah, Fea wrote: "They will be quick to tell you that only Jesus is the Messiah. They do not believe Trump has special powers, but he is certainly an agent or vessel for God to work through to make America Christian again. ".
As far as Trump goes, Fea continued, "he probably thinks these charismatics and Pentecostals are crazy. But if they are going to tell him he is God's anointed one, he will gladly accept the title and use it if it wins him votes. He will happily accept their prayers because it is politically expedient. ".
Robert P. Jones, the founder and chief executive of P. Are. Are. I. (formerly the Public Religion Research Institute), contends that Trump's religious claims are an outright fraud:
Trump has given us adequate evidence that he has little religious sensibility or theological acuity. He has scant knowledge of the Bible, he has said that he has never sought forgiveness for his sins, and he has no substantive connection to a church or denomination. He's not only one of the least religious but also likely one of the most theologically ignorant presidents the country has ever had.
Trump, Jones added in an email, "almost certainly lacks the kind of religious sensibility or theological framework necessary to personally grasp what it would even mean to be a Jesus-like, messianic figure. ".
Despite that, Jones wrote, "many of his most loyal Christian followers, white evangelical Protestants, have indeed come to see him as a kind of metaphorical savior figure. ".
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According to Jones, in order to rationalize this quasi-deification of Trump — despite "his crassness and vulgarity, divorces, mocking of disabled people, his overt racism and a determination by a court that he sexually abused advice columnist E. Jean Carroll" — white evangelicals refer not to Jesus but the Persian King Cyrus from the book of Isaiah in the Hebrew Bible. ".
In that story, Jones recounted in his email.
Cyrus is the model of an ungodly king who nonetheless frees a group of Jews who are held captive in Babylon. It took white evangelicals themselves a while to settle on an explanation for their support, but this characterization of Trump was solidified in a 2018 film that came out just before the 2018 midterms entitled "The Trump Prophecy," which portrayed Trump as the only leader who could save America from certain cultural collapse.
According to Jones, "White evangelicals' stalwart, enduring support for Trump tells us much more about who they see themselves to be than who they think Trump is. As I argued in my most recent book, 'The Hidden Roots of White Supremacy, Jones continued in his email, "the primary force animating white evangelical Protestant politics — one that has been with us since before the founding of the Republic — is the vision of America as a nation primarily of, by and for white Christians. ".
Jones cited a 2023 P. Are. Are. I. Survey that showed "a majority (56 percent) of white evangelical Protestants, compared to only one-third of all Americans, believed that 'God intended America to be a new promised land where European Christians could create a society that could be an example to the rest of the world. '.
Jones argued that Trump's declaration on the Ellipse on Jan. 6, 2021 — "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore" — was a direct appeal "to this sense of divine entitlement of those who believed this mythology strongly enough to engage in a violent insurrection. ".
While Trump has overwhelming backing from white evangelical Christians, many of whom invest him with exceptional ties to God, there are also strong secular factors underpinning this support from evangelicals.
Jim Guth, a political scientist at Furman University and an expert on the role of religion in politics, published an article in 2019, "Are White Evangelicals Populists? The View From the 2016 American National Election Study. " The essay describes the basis for the strong affinity of white evangelicals for Trump's conservative populism.
"White evangelicals," Guth found, "are invariably the most populist: more likely to favor strong leadership (even when that means breaking the rules), to distrust government, to see the country on the wrong track and to think that the majority should always rule (and minorities adapt). ".
Guth also found that.
Another salient trait of populist politics is the willingness to ignore democratic civility. We constructed a "rough politics" score from three A. And. E. S. Items: whether protesters deserve what they get if they are hurt in demonstrating, whether the country would be better off if it got rid of rotten apples and whether people are "too sensitive" about political discourse. Here the usual pattern recurs: Evangelical affiliation, evangelical identity and biblical literalism predicts agreement with those assertions, while religious minorities, secular folks and progressives tend to demur.
Guth ranked religious groups on their level of support for conservative populism and found that.
Evangelicals end up far above any other religious group, with about two-thirds falling into the populist category. White Catholics, mainline Protestants and Latter-day Saints have significant numbers in that group but far fewer than evangelicals and nowhere near a majority. The religiously unaffiliated and minority ethnoreligious groups have few populists — often very few — with Jews, agnostics / atheists, Black Protestants and members of world religions the most antipopulist.
Guth wrote that his "findings help us understand what many have struggled to comprehend: How can white evangelical Protestants continue to provide strong support for President Donald Trump, whose personal values and behavior trample on the biblical and ethical standards professed by that community?
The most common explanation, according to Guth.
Is that white evangelicals have a transactional relationship with the president: As long as he nominates conservative jurists and makes appropriate gestures on abortion and sexual politics, they will support him.
"The evidence here," he wrote, "suggests a more problematic answer":
White evangelicals share with Trump a multitude of attitudes, including his hostility toward immigrants, his Islamophobia, his racism and nativism, as well as his political style, with its nasty politics and assertion of strong, solitary leadership. Indeed, Trump's candidacy may have "authorized" for the first time the widespread expression of such attitudes.
Guth took his analysis a step farther, suggesting that pro-Trump, conservative populism has become entrenched in the white evangelical community:
The pervasive populism of white evangelical laity not only helps explain their support for President Trump but suggests powerful barriers to influence by cosmopolitan internationalist evangelical elites, who want to turn the community in a different direction. As hostile responses to efforts of antipopulist evangelicals like Michael Gerson, Russell Moore, David Platt and many others indicate, there is currently a very limited market for such alternative perspectives among the rank and file. Indeed, the vocal populism of many of the conservative evangelicals filling President Trump's religious advisory council is probably more representative of the community as a whole.
Guth went on:
Nor does cosmopolitan or cooperative internationalism find much purchase among local evangelical clergy. Analysis of the 2017 Cooperative Clergy Survey shows that ministers from several evangelical denominations, especially the large Southern Baptist Convention and Assemblies of God, exhibit exactly the same populist traits seen here in white evangelical laity, but in more pronounced form: strong Islamophobia, Christian nationalism, extreme moral traditionalism, opposition to trade pacts, militaristic attitudes, resistance to political compromise and climate change denial, among others.
In other words, conservative populism, with all its antidemocratic implications, has taken root in America. What we don't know is for how long — or how much damage it will do.
From Trump to Roger Stone and their right-wing insurrectionist foot-soldiers, Repubs once again show their TRUE COLORS..."the color of THUGS and VIOLENCE"!!!
Trump team argues assassination of rivals is covered by presidential immunity
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4398223-trump-team-argues-assassination-of-rivals-is-covered-by-presidential-immunity/
Trump in a hart beat wouldn't hesitate to use a Navy SEAL Team Six to assassinate his political enemies/opposition.
Likewise:
Roger Stone, caught/busted on tape discussing the assassination with an NYP Cop, of two (2) Democratic members of congress, Eric Swalwell and Jerry Nadler, weeks before the 2020 election.
Exclusive: Roger Stone Spoke With Cop Pal About Assassinating Eric Swalwell and Jerry Nadler
https://www.mediaite.com/politics/exclusive-roger-stone-spoke-with-cop-pal-about-assassinating-eric-swalwell-and-jerry-nadler/
Well in the spirit (somewhat) of Bill Maher - NEW RULE for Repubs!
Now that we have affirmative conformation and know with a good degree of certainty, that MAGA Republicans have officially turned the GOP/RNC party into nothing more than thugs, gangsters and goons, and whos base is nothing more than gun-toting insurrectionists, hired assassins and killers, they need to change their national party affiliated name, so something more befitting.
What about a change from RNC to RNWA? aka.Republican National-iggaz Wit Attitudes (...kkkk!)
(...kkkk!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnMs9358nVU
Go to the 3:23 mark.
Matt Taibbi: But hey, before we move on, should we address this thing that happened with Abby Phillip and Vivek Ramaswamy? I know Jimmy Dore already did a bit on it, but this is one of the weirdest things that I've seen on TV. I was just wondered if you agreed or not.
Walter Kirn: Abby Phillip being the CNN moderator at a Ramaswamy town hall, it happened in December, and the setup here is that yeah, I do think it's worth addressing because it was one of the most overt interventions by a state media representative in American television that I've ever seen. State media representative-.
Matt Taibbi: I've never seen anything like it.
Walter Kirn: . She set Ramaswamy up with a question about January 6th, and comments he made about it having been to some extent, quote, an inside job or having involved undercover agitators or something from-.
Matt Taibbi: About which I take no position. I'm assuming you don't either, but.
Walter Kirn: Right. You mean on the truth of that?
Matt Taibbi: Yeah.
Walter Kirn: Well, I don't take any position on it. I will say that as a news watcher, a reporter, and a friend of other reporters, I know there were various agents-.
Matt Taibbi: Oh, well, we know that. Mm-hmm.
Walter Kirn: But in any case, Ramaswamy, in other words, wasn't talking about pure fantasy: he was emphasizing something and interpreting something in a strong way. But she came in like she was, I don't know, his minder or a disciplinarian sent from headquarters and wouldn't let him speak, started interrupting him, kept saying, "I have to interrupt you. I don't want to have to interrupt you again," talking over him, not letting him answer her own question, her own prejudicial setup.
Matt Taibbi: Can we just play a few minutes of this? I'm sorry. It's just so amazing.
Walter Kirn: Yeah, it's mesmerizing.
Matt Taibbi: I think we can probably stop here, right? It just keeps going on and on like that, but I can't remember an interview like that. Can you? Jimmy Dore's bit was hilarious. It was like somebody was yelling in her earphone, "Don't let him say that. " It did feel like that.
Walter Kirn: That's how it works: of course somebody was yelling in her ear. And they're just stepping forth now and making themselves principles in the play. No longer are they trying to elicit statements from the main actors: they are the actors. And she's very sorry, but she, "Has to interrupt," she kept saying. It was almost as if she'the had a stun gun, she would've administered shocks and said, "Mr. Ramaswamy, I'm afraid I'm going to have to turn up the voltage now. I'm going to have to shock you again. You just made another statement: that gets you another shock," and the audience applauding against her, she's got something going in her ear, Ramaswamy is attempting to speak and it's all a subject that she broached. In other words, "I'the like you to defend yourself. Now, once you've started defending yourself, I'm going to have to interrupt and stop you from doing that."
Matt Taibbi: I feel bad for her because it was pretty clear that she didn't know a thing about the subject. I guess it's her job to know that.
Walter Kirn: Man, is that because of your Roman Catholic upbringing?
Matt Taibbi: Maybe it is, yeah.
Walter Kirn: I don't feel bad for anyone on TV. Anybody who's making those TV bucks and getting that good health insurance and wearing those red dresses, and getting out there with the heaters of the world.
Matt Taibbi: Having lunch at Whole Foods in the basement.
Walter Kirn:
Exactly, getting high-fived at Erewhon in LA. What we're going to see more and more is this discourse policing as an overt act by journalists. They want to control the thermostat, okay? They see themselves as guardians of the information thermostat, and if anybody tries to adjust it without permission, they grab it again and say hands off that thermostat.
Walter Kirn: That was weird too. It is her job to always make the favorable interpretation for the federal government?
Matt Taibbi: Yeah. Why should she care?
Walter Kirn: he had a point.
Matt Taibbi: I don't care.
Walter Kirn:
Yeah, that's the thing: why do they care so badly? And that's a mystery to me still, Matt. Is their monopoly on airport broadcasting that valuable? I think it's probably something like that. Dude, we've got Don Lemon now peeling off for X from CNN, and his whole schtick is that he's now going to speak the truth. The manacles are off: it's Don Lemon unchained.
Matt Taibbi: Wow. What's that going to be like?
Walter Kirn: We have no idea because any CNN host is so oppressed by the fact they're on CNN, you know? I've got to say, Chris Cuomo unchained is a lot more interesting than the CNN Chris Cuomo.
Matt Taibbi: It's true. Yep. Mm-hmm.
Walter Kirn: They're leaving the brainwashing program one by one. We're going to have Abby Phillip the way she really is someday.
Matt Taibbi: Right, and that's going to be awesome. I can't wait.
Walter Kirn: I can't wait.
Matt Taibbi: Yeah. But this policing mid-question is a new thing. I haven't seen that before. But we've been talking all year about this anti-disinformation stuff, and going in afterwards, and surgically removing something somebody said, or deamplifying it or whatever. But at the point of a live interview, intervening to make sure that somebody doesn't squeeze something out that might be heard by.
Walter Kirn: Dude, it was a town hall. It was an event to which people had come to hear Vivek Ramaswamy's views. That's why they were there. That's why it was on TV. And she's like, "I'm going to have to put my hand over your mouth. " Even if he was saying manifestly crazy things, the point was to let him speak.
Matt Taibbi: This kind of thing makes people want to hang journalists from yardarms. I'm sorry, it's the truth: I saw this developing during the 2015,2016 campaign, we got ritualistically Jared at the beginning, but then as things got more heated and the stories about Trump got more pointed, it got a little scary there for a little bit. People started to really despise the people in the press section, and you could feel it was mutual. There's no question about that. To this day, when you go out and try to interview people in the lines of Trump events, they are very hands-off. Unless they know who you are, they're not going to talk. And that is a new phenomenon. That was not like that even 8 years ago, or 10 or 12 years ago.
Walter Kirn: Matt, I just came up with a new debate format: you'll have Donald Trump at one lectern, and then the other lectern will be Abby Phillip, and Joe Biden will moderate.
Matt Taibbi: That's right.
Walter Kirn: Exactly: why not just have the candidates debate someone in the press, while the other candidate feeds leading questions? Because-.
Matt Taibbi: You could just interchange them because they're all the same anyway. It could be Jen Psaki for one question, and then, I don't know, I won't put Chris Hayes into this, but you know who I'm talking about. There's this endlessly. Chuck Todd, Karine Jean-Pierre.
Walter Kirn: Right, okay, so-.
Matt Taibbi: You can just cycle them endlessly.
Walter Kirn: Trump should debate Rachel Maddow with Kamala Harris asking the questions. That would probably be more revealing.
Matt Taibbi: It would be way more interesting.
Walter Kirn: Right, exactly. But that's what was happening here: we were seeing Abby Phillip acting as a surrogate for some kind of hive-mind at CNN that was debating Vivek Ramaswamy at what was supposedly a solo town hall at which she was just supposed to ask questions. But journalists now answer the questions too. So in other words, the whole thing has come full-circle. Is it not the natural evolution of narcissistic journalism that, "I not only write the story, I am the story. I not only ask the questions, I answer them. "?
End of link.
Yeah, Trump debating Rachel Mad Cow with Kamala asking the questions would be the Democratic douche version of fairness.Trump would not have the slightest idea of what to say or do about any presidential level question or topic.
However, give him an hour and he could easily add another 1000 lies to the 40,000 - 50,000+.
By now documented lies he has told to the world just since 2015.
And some of those lies killed millions around the world and several hundred thousand Americans. A Real News outlet does America a great service by not simply letting an uninterrupted Trump lie fest go unfettered. They can factcheck it and replay any stray single sentences here and there where he might have stumbled into something supported by the facts. But more than likely even that means not one sentence that comes out of his mouth is not a lie.
Vivek Ramaswamy might have been the 2nd biggest liar among the declared Repub so-called potus candidates after Trump. He is also a conspiracy theory Loon. I heard 4 supporters were devastated by his dropping out of the race.
Well in the spirit (somewhat) of Bill Maher - NEW RULE for Repubs!
Now that we have affirmative conformation and know with a good degree of certainty, that MAGA Republicans have officially turned the GOP/RNC party into nothing more than thugs, gangsters and goons, and whos base is nothing more than gun-toting insurrectionists, hired assassins and killers, they need to change their national party affiliated name, so something more befitting.
What about a change from RNC to RNWA? aka.Republican National-iggaz Wit Attitudes (...kkkk!)
(...kkkk!)Repubs have been legislating and promoting the end of American democracy and the destruction of the Americsn economy for at least 100 years.
If Reagan thought he could have gotten away with ordering Navy S. E. A. L. Teams to kill his political rivals he would have done it in a heartbeat. He asked Iran to continue holding American hostages until after the 1980 election with the exchange apparently being he would some day gift them with American-killing ARMS!
No difference in the Repub mentality between then and now.
Why, any unbiased observer over the decades might accurately conclude their Party and key figures are, well, dare I say it; Deplorable.
MarquisdeSade1
01-18-24, 12:28
Go to the 3:23 mark.
Matt Taibbi: But hey, before we move on, should we address this thing that happened with Abby Phillip and Vivek Ramaswamy? I know Jimmy Dore already did a bit on it, but this is one of the weirdest things that I've seen on TV. I was just wondered if you agreed or not.
Walter Kirn: Abby Phillip being the CNN moderator at a Ramaswamy town hall, it happened in December, and the setup here is that yeah, I do think it's worth addressing because it was one of the most overt interventions by a state media representative in American television that I've ever seen. State media representative-.
Matt Taibbi: I've never seen anything like it.
Walter Kirn: . She set Ramaswamy up with a question about January 6th, and comments he made about it having been to some extent, quote, an inside job or having involved undercover agitators or something from-.
Matt Taibbi: About which I take no position. I'm assuming you don't either, but.
Walter Kirn: Right. You mean on the truth of that?
Matt Taibbi: Yeah.
Walter Kirn: Well, I don't take any position on it. I will say that as a news watcher, a reporter, and a friend of other reporters, I know there were various agents-.
Matt Taibbi: Oh, well, we know that. Mm-hmm.
Walter Kirn: But in any case, Ramaswamy, in other words, wasn't talking about pure fantasy: he was emphasizing something and interpreting something in a strong way. But she came in like she was, I don't know, his minder or a disciplinarian sent from headquarters and wouldn't let him speak, started interrupting him, kept saying, "I have to interrupt you. I don't want to have to interrupt you again," talking over him, not letting him answer her own question, her own prejudicial setup.
Matt Taibbi: Can we just play a few minutes of this? I'm sorry. It's just so amazing.
Walter Kirn: Yeah, it's mesmerizing.
Matt Taibbi: I think we can probably stop here, right? It just keeps going on and on like that, but I can't remember an interview like that. Can you? Jimmy Dore's bit was hilarious. It was like somebody was yelling in her earphone, "Don't let him say that. " It did feel like that.
Walter Kirn: That's how it works: of course somebody was yelling in her ear. And they're just stepping forth now and making themselves principles in the play. No longer are they trying to elicit statements from the main actors: they are the actors. And she's very sorry, but she, "Has to interrupt," she kept saying. It was almost as if she'the had a stun gun, she would've administered shocks and said, "Mr. Ramaswamy, I'm afraid I'm going to have to turn up the voltage now. I'm going to have to shock you again. You just made another statement: that gets you another shock," and the audience applauding against her, she's got something going in her ear, Ramaswamy is attempting to speak and it's all a subject that she broached. In other words, "I'the like you to defend yourself. Now, once you've started defending yourself, I'm going to have to interrupt and stop you from doing that. ".
Matt Taibbi: I feel bad for her because it was pretty clear that she didn't know a thing about the subject. I guess it's her job to know that.
Walter Kirn: Man, is that because of your Roman Catholic upbringing?
Matt Taibbi: Maybe it is, yeah.
Walter Kirn: I don't feel bad for anyone on TV. Anybody who's making those TV bucks and getting that good health insurance and wearing those red dresses, and getting out there with the heaters of the world.
Matt Taibbi: Having lunch at Whole Foods in the basement.
Walter Kirn:
Exactly, getting high-fived at Erewhon in LA. What we're going to see more and more is this discourse policing as an overt act by journalists. They want to control the thermostat, okay? They see themselves as guardians of the information thermostat, and if anybody tries to adjust it without permission, they grab it again and say hands off that thermostat.
Walter Kirn: That was weird too. It is her job to always make the favorable interpretation for the federal government?
Matt Taibbi: Yeah. Why should she care?
Walter Kirn: he had a point.
Matt Taibbi: I don't care.
Walter Kirn:
Yeah, that's the thing: why do they care so badly? And that's a mystery to me still, Matt. Is their monopoly on airport broadcasting that valuable? I think it's probably something like that. Dude, we've got Don Lemon now peeling off for X from CNN, and his whole schtick is that he's now going to speak the truth. The manacles are off: it's Don Lemon unchained.
Matt Taibbi: Wow. What's that going to be like?
Walter Kirn: We have no idea because any CNN host is so oppressed by the fact they're on CNN, you know? I've got to say, Chris Cuomo unchained is a lot more interesting than the CNN Chris Cuomo.
Matt Taibbi: It's true. Yep. Mm-hmm.
Walter Kirn: They're leaving the brainwashing program one by one. We're going to have Abby Phillip the way she really is someday.
Matt Taibbi: Right, and that's going to be awesome. I can't wait.
Walter Kirn: I can't wait.
Matt Taibbi: Yeah. But this policing mid-question is a new thing. I haven't seen that before. But we've been talking all year about this anti-disinformation stuff, and going in afterwards, and surgically removing something somebody said, or deamplifying it or whatever. But at the point of a live interview, intervening to make sure that somebody doesn't squeeze something out that might be heard by.
Walter Kirn: Dude, it was a town hall. It was an event to which people had come to hear Vivek Ramaswamy's views. That's why they were there. That's why it was on TV. And she's like, "I'm going to have to put my hand over your mouth. " Even if he was saying manifestly crazy things, the point was to let him speak.
Matt Taibbi: This kind of thing makes people want to hang journalists from yardarms. I'm sorry, it's the truth: I saw this developing during the 2015,2016 campaign, we got ritualistically Jared at the beginning, but then as things got more heated and the stories about Trump got more pointed, it got a little scary there for a little bit. People started to really despise the people in the press section, and you could feel it was mutual. There's no question about that. To this day, when you go out and try to interview people in the lines of Trump events, they are very hands-off. Unless they know who you are, they're not going to talk. And that is a new phenomenon. That was not like that even 8 years ago, or 10 or 12 years ago.
Walter Kirn: Matt, I just came up with a new debate format: you'll have Donald Trump at one lectern, and then the other lectern will be Abby Phillip, and Joe Biden will moderate.
Matt Taibbi: That's right.
Walter Kirn: Exactly: why not just have the candidates debate someone in the press, while the other candidate feeds leading questions? Because-.
Matt Taibbi: You could just interchange them because they're all the same anyway. It could be Jen Psaki for one question, and then, I don't know, I won't put Chris Hayes into this, but you know who I'm talking about. There's this endlessly. Chuck Todd, Karine Jean-Pierre.
Walter Kirn: Right, okay, so-.
Matt Taibbi: You can just cycle them endlessly.
Walter Kirn: Trump should debate Rachel Maddow with Kamala Harris asking the questions. That would probably be more revealing.
Matt Taibbi: It would be way more interesting.
Walter Kirn: Right, exactly. But that's what was happening here: we were seeing Abby Phillip acting as a surrogate for some kind of hive-mind at CNN that was debating Vivek Ramaswamy at what was supposedly a solo town hall at which she was just supposed to ask questions. But journalists now answer the questions too. So in other words, the whole thing has come full-circle. Is it not the natural evolution of narcissistic journalism that, "I not only write the story, I am the story. I not only ask the questions, I answer them. "?
End of link.
Yeah, Trump debating Rachel Mad Cow with Kamala asking the questions would be the Democratic douche version of fairness. ".
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/01/17/copium-nate-silver-mocks-eric-swalwell-for-claiming-donald-trump-got-smoked-in-iowa/
MarquisdeSade1
01-18-24, 13:07
Go to the 3:23 mark.
Matt Taibbi: But hey, before we move on, should we address this thing that happened with Abby Phillip and Vivek Ramaswamy? I know Jimmy Dore already did a bit on it, but this is one of the weirdest things that I've seen on TV. I was just wondered if you agreed or not.
Walter Kirn: Abby Phillip being the CNN moderator at a Ramaswamy town hall, it happened in December, and the setup here is that yeah, I do think it's worth addressing because it was one of the most overt interventions by a state media representative in American television that I've ever seen. State media representative-.
Matt Taibbi: I've never seen anything like it.
Walter Kirn: . She set Ramaswamy up with a question about January 6th, and comments he made about it having been to some extent, quote, an inside job or having involved undercover agitators or something from-.
Matt Taibbi: About which I take no position. I'm assuming you don't either, but.
Walter Kirn: Right. You mean on the truth of that?
Matt Taibbi: Yeah.
Walter Kirn: Well, I don't take any position on it. I will say that as a news watcher, a reporter, and a friend of other reporters, I know there were various agents-.
Matt Taibbi: Oh, well, we know that. Mm-hmm.
Walter Kirn: But in any case, Ramaswamy, in other words, wasn't talking about pure fantasy: he was emphasizing something and interpreting something in a strong way. But she came in like she was, I don't know, his minder or a disciplinarian sent from headquarters and wouldn't let him speak, started interrupting him, kept saying, "I have to interrupt you. I don't want to have to interrupt you again," talking over him, not letting him answer her own question, her own prejudicial setup.
Matt Taibbi: Can we just play a few minutes of this? I'm sorry. It's just so amazing.
Walter Kirn: Yeah, it's mesmerizing.
Matt Taibbi: I think we can probably stop here, right? It just keeps going on and on like that, but I can't remember an interview like that. Can you? Jimmy Dore's bit was hilarious. It was like somebody was yelling in her earphone, "Don't let him say that. " It did feel like that.
Walter Kirn: That's how it works: of course somebody was yelling in her ear. And they're just stepping forth now and making themselves principles in the play. No longer are they trying to elicit statements from the main actors: they are the actors. And she's very sorry, but she, "Has to interrupt," she kept saying. It was almost as if she'the had a stun gun, she would've administered shocks and said, "Mr. Ramaswamy, I'm afraid I'm going to have to turn up the voltage now. I'm going to have to shock you again. You just made another statement: that gets you another shock," and the audience applauding against her, she's got something going in her ear, Ramaswamy is attempting to speak and it's all a subject that she broached. In other words, "I'the like you to defend yourself. Now, once you've started defending yourself, I'm going to have to interrupt and stop you from doing that. ".
Matt Taibbi: I feel bad for her because it was pretty clear that she didn't know a thing about the subject. I guess it's her job to know that.
Walter Kirn: Man, is that because of your Roman Catholic upbringing?
Matt Taibbi: Maybe it is, yeah.
Walter Kirn: I don't feel bad for anyone on TV. Anybody who's making those TV bucks and getting that good health insurance and wearing those red dresses, and getting out there with the heaters of the world.
Matt Taibbi: Having lunch at Whole Foods in the basement.
Walter Kirn:
Exactly, getting high-fived at Erewhon in LA. What we're going to see more and more is this discourse policing as an overt act by journalists. They want to control the thermostat, okay? They see themselves as guardians of the information thermostat, and if anybody tries to adjust it without permission, they grab it again and say hands off that thermostat.
Walter Kirn: That was weird too. It is her job to always make the favorable interpretation for the federal government?
Matt Taibbi: Yeah. Why should she care?
Walter Kirn: he had a point.
Matt Taibbi: I don't care.
Walter Kirn:
Yeah, that's the thing: why do they care so badly? And that's a mystery to me still, Matt. Is their monopoly on airport broadcasting that valuable? I think it's probably something like that. Dude, we've got Don Lemon now peeling off for X from CNN, and his whole schtick is that he's now going to speak the truth. The manacles are off: it's Don Lemon unchained.
Matt Taibbi: Wow. What's that going to be like?
Walter Kirn: We have no idea because any CNN host is so oppressed by the fact they're on CNN, you know? I've got to say, Chris Cuomo unchained is a lot more interesting than the CNN Chris Cuomo.
Matt Taibbi: It's true. Yep. Mm-hmm.
Walter Kirn: They're leaving the brainwashing program one by one. We're going to have Abby Phillip the way she really is someday.
Matt Taibbi: Right, and that's going to be awesome. I can't wait.
Walter Kirn: I can't wait.
Matt Taibbi: Yeah. But this policing mid-question is a new thing. I haven't seen that before. But we've been talking all year about this anti-disinformation stuff, and going in afterwards, and surgically removing something somebody said, or deamplifying it or whatever. But at the point of a live interview, intervening to make sure that somebody doesn't squeeze something out that might be heard by.
Walter Kirn: Dude, it was a town hall. It was an event to which people had come to hear Vivek Ramaswamy's views. That's why they were there. That's why it was on TV. And she's like, "I'm going to have to put my hand over your mouth. " Even if he was saying manifestly crazy things, the point was to let him speak.
Matt Taibbi: This kind of thing makes people want to hang journalists from yardarms. I'm sorry, it's the truth: I saw this developing during the 2015,2016 campaign, we got ritualistically Jared at the beginning, but then as things got more heated and the stories about Trump got more pointed, it got a little scary there for a little bit. People started to really despise the people in the press section, and you could feel it was mutual. There's no question about that. To this day, when you go out and try to interview people in the lines of Trump events, they are very hands-off. Unless they know who you are, they're not going to talk. And that is a new phenomenon. That was not like that even 8 years ago, or 10 or 12 years ago.
Walter Kirn: Matt, I just came up with a new debate format: you'll have Donald Trump at one lectern, and then the other lectern will be Abby Phillip, and Joe Biden will moderate.
Matt Taibbi: That's right.
Walter Kirn: Exactly: why not just have the candidates debate someone in the press, while the other candidate feeds leading questions? Because-.
Matt Taibbi: You could just interchange them because they're all the same anyway. It could be Jen Psaki for one question, and then, I don't know, I won't put Chris Hayes into this, but you know who I'm talking about. There's this endlessly. Chuck Todd, Karine Jean-Pierre.
Walter Kirn: Right, okay, so-.
Matt Taibbi: You can just cycle them endlessly.
Walter Kirn: Trump should debate Rachel Maddow with Kamala Harris asking the questions. That would probably be more revealing.
Matt Taibbi: It would be way more interesting.
Walter Kirn: Right, exactly. But that's what was happening here: we were seeing Abby Phillip acting as a surrogate for some kind of hive-mind at CNN that was debating Vivek Ramaswamy at what was supposedly a solo town hall at which she was just supposed to ask questions. But journalists now answer the questions too. So in other words, the whole thing has come full-circle. Is it not the natural evolution of narcissistic journalism that, "I not only write the story, I am the story. I not only ask the questions, I answer them. "?
End of link.
Yeah, Trump debating Rachel Mad Cow with Kamala asking the questions would be the Democratic douche version of fairness. ".
I like Vivek I think he would make an awesome choice for VP.
Even a great president in 2028!!
Have a little pity for these ISG cucks they 2 are addicted to the copium LMAO
Go to the 3:23 mark.
Matt Taibbi: But hey, before we move on, should we address this thing that happened with Abby Phillip and Vivek Ramaswamy? I know Jimmy Dore already did a bit on it, but this is one of the weirdest things that I've seen on TV. I was just wondered if you agreed or not.
Walter Kirn: Abby Phillip being the CNN moderator at a Ramaswamy town hall, it happened in December, and the setup here is that yeah, I do think it's worth addressing because it was one of the most overt interventions by a state media representative in American television that I've ever seen. State media representative-.
Matt Taibbi: I've never seen anything like it.
Walter Kirn: . She set Ramaswamy up with a question about January 6th, and comments he made about it having been to some extent, quote, an inside job or having involved undercover agitators or something from-.
Matt Taibbi: About which I take no position. I'm assuming you don't either, but.
Walter Kirn: Right. You mean on the truth of that?
Matt Taibbi: Yeah.
Walter Kirn: Well, I don't take any position on it. I will say that as a news watcher, a reporter, and a friend of other reporters, I know there were various agents-.
Matt Taibbi: Oh, well, we know that. Mm-hmm.
Walter Kirn: But in any case, Ramaswamy, in other words, wasn't talking about pure fantasy: he was emphasizing something and interpreting something in a strong way. But she came in like she was, I don't know, his minder or a disciplinarian sent from headquarters and wouldn't let him speak, started interrupting him, kept saying, "I have to interrupt you. I don't want to have to interrupt you again," talking over him, not letting him answer her own question, her own prejudicial setup.
Matt Taibbi: Can we just play a few minutes of this? I'm sorry. It's just so amazing.
Walter Kirn: Yeah, it's mesmerizing.
Matt Taibbi: I think we can probably stop here, right? It just keeps going on and on like that, but I can't remember an interview like that. Can you? Jimmy Dore's bit was hilarious. It was like somebody was yelling in her earphone, "Don't let him say that. " It did feel like that.
Walter Kirn: That's how it works: of course somebody was yelling in her ear. And they're just stepping forth now and making themselves principles in the play. No longer are they trying to elicit statements from the main actors: they are the actors. And she's very sorry, but she, "Has to interrupt," she kept saying. It was almost as if she'the had a stun gun, she would've administered shocks and said, "Mr. Ramaswamy, I'm afraid I'm going to have to turn up the voltage now. I'm going to have to shock you again. You just made another statement: that gets you another shock," and the audience applauding against her, she's got something going in her ear, Ramaswamy is attempting to speak and it's all a subject that she broached. In other words, "I'the like you to defend yourself. Now, once you've started defending yourself, I'm going to have to interrupt and stop you from doing that. ".
Matt Taibbi: I feel bad for her because it was pretty clear that she didn't know a thing about the subject. I guess it's her job to know that.
Walter Kirn: Man, is that because of your Roman Catholic upbringing?
Matt Taibbi: Maybe it is, yeah.
Walter Kirn: I don't feel bad for anyone on TV. Anybody who's making those TV bucks and getting that good health insurance and wearing those red dresses, and getting out there with the heaters of the world.
Matt Taibbi: Having lunch at Whole Foods in the basement.
Walter Kirn:
Exactly, getting high-fived at Erewhon in LA. What we're going to see more and more is this discourse policing as an overt act by journalists. They want to control the thermostat, okay? They see themselves as guardians of the information thermostat, and if anybody tries to adjust it without permission, they grab it again and say hands off that thermostat.
Walter Kirn: That was weird too. It is her job to always make the favorable interpretation for the federal government?
Matt Taibbi: Yeah. Why should she care?
Walter Kirn: he had a point.
Matt Taibbi: I don't care.
Walter Kirn:
Yeah, that's the thing: why do they care so badly? And that's a mystery to me still, Matt. Is their monopoly on airport broadcasting that valuable? I think it's probably something like that. Dude, we've got Don Lemon now peeling off for X from CNN, and his whole schtick is that he's now going to speak the truth. The manacles are off: it's Don Lemon unchained.
Matt Taibbi: Wow. What's that going to be like?
Walter Kirn: We have no idea because any CNN host is so oppressed by the fact they're on CNN, you know? I've got to say, Chris Cuomo unchained is a lot more interesting than the CNN Chris Cuomo.
Matt Taibbi: It's true. Yep. Mm-hmm.
Walter Kirn: They're leaving the brainwashing program one by one. We're going to have Abby Phillip the way she really is someday.
Matt Taibbi: Right, and that's going to be awesome. I can't wait.
Walter Kirn: I can't wait.
Matt Taibbi: Yeah. But this policing mid-question is a new thing. I haven't seen that before. But we've been talking all year about this anti-disinformation stuff, and going in afterwards, and surgically removing something somebody said, or deamplifying it or whatever. But at the point of a live interview, intervening to make sure that somebody doesn't squeeze something out that might be heard by.
Walter Kirn: Dude, it was a town hall. It was an event to which people had come to hear Vivek Ramaswamy's views. That's why they were there. That's why it was on TV. And she's like, "I'm going to have to put my hand over your mouth. " Even if he was saying manifestly crazy things, the point was to let him speak.
Matt Taibbi: This kind of thing makes people want to hang journalists from yardarms. I'm sorry, it's the truth: I saw this developing during the 2015,2016 campaign, we got ritualistically Jared at the beginning, but then as things got more heated and the stories about Trump got more pointed, it got a little scary there for a little bit. People started to really despise the people in the press section, and you could feel it was mutual. There's no question about that. To this day, when you go out and try to interview people in the lines of Trump events, they are very hands-off. Unless they know who you are, they're not going to talk. And that is a new phenomenon. That was not like that even 8 years ago, or 10 or 12 years ago.
Walter Kirn: Matt, I just came up with a new debate format: you'll have Donald Trump at one lectern, and then the other lectern will be Abby Phillip, and Joe Biden will moderate.
Matt Taibbi: That's right.
Walter Kirn: Exactly: why not just have the candidates debate someone in the press, while the other candidate feeds leading questions? Because-.
Matt Taibbi: You could just interchange them because they're all the same anyway. It could be Jen Psaki for one question, and then, I don't know, I won't put Chris Hayes into this, but you know who I'm talking about. There's this endlessly. Chuck Todd, Karine Jean-Pierre.
Walter Kirn: Right, okay, so-.
Matt Taibbi: You can just cycle them endlessly.
Walter Kirn: Trump should debate Rachel Maddow with Kamala Harris asking the questions. That would probably be more revealing.
Matt Taibbi: It would be way more interesting.
Walter Kirn: Right, exactly. But that's what was happening here: we were seeing Abby Phillip acting as a surrogate for some kind of hive-mind at CNN that was debating Vivek Ramaswamy at what was supposedly a solo town hall at which she was just supposed to ask questions. But journalists now answer the questions too. So in other words, the whole thing has come full-circle. Is it not the natural evolution of narcissistic journalism that, "I not only write the story, I am the story. I not only ask the questions, I answer them. "?
End of link.
Yeah, Trump debating Rachel Mad Cow with Kamala asking the questions would be the Democratic douche version of fairness. ".
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/01/17/copium-nate-silver-mocks-eric-swalwell-for-claiming-donald-trump-got-smoked-in-iowa/When was the last time Breitbart posted a report about Trump defunding and removing all of the Pandemic Prevention and Response teams from those Chinese labs 5 months before the first Covid cases began to emerge there against all expert warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid, followed by Trump complaining that "The Chinese should have told us about it" and that if only we had known about those cases 2-3 months earlier the world could have avoided all this trouble?
Ever?
LOL. How about the last time anyone at Breitbart shoved a microphone in front of Larry Summers' pie hole and asked him how much Trump creating Trump's Pandemic that way contributed to the rate of Supply-Chain Destruction Inflation the entire world experienced over the last 2-3 years?
Ever?
Anyone allowed to do that at Fux News? Actually, has anyone at any media outlet bothered to ask such a thing of Larry Summers? LOL.
The 1st Amendment does not require media outlets to air anything and everything anyone wants to say. Not even if it is 100% true. And certainly not if it comes out of the pie hole of Repubs who, for example, are known to push horseshit about a murky video of one election worker passing a ginger mint to another election worker being ironclad evidence of his Big Lie aimed at enciting and leading a violent cop-killing mob of Insurrectionists to overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American democracy.
Somebody for the love of God please explain that to Matt Taibbi.
Repubs have been legislating and promoting the end of American democracy and the destruction of the Americsn economy for at least 100 years.
If Reagan thought he could have gotten away with ordering Navy S. E. A. L. Teams to kill his political rivals he would have done it in a heartbeat. He asked Iran to continue holding American
hostages until after the 1980 election with the exchange apparently being he would some day gift them with American-killing ARMS!
No difference in the Repub mentality between then and now.
Why, any unbiased observer over the decades might accurately conclude their Party and key figures are, well, dare I say it; Deplorable.
Yes, Republican cruelty is definitely one of a long standing order. One that has typically gone on behind closed doors for decades.
Today's MAGA Repubs however, openly, unreservedly and blatantly, proclaim "bloody murder", executions and assassinations, publicly and gleefully, while feeling "justified", in saying/doing so shamelessly, with impunity, has reached new levels, even for them. Yes, deplorable...indeed!
Although, by it's very nature, that is exactly what you get when you let Trump, a mob boss, gangster, drifter and pathologically liar, that is morally corrupt and bankrupt, run as the head of your political party.
FT says Biden's IRA has changed the WORLD.
How Biden's Inflation Reduction Act changed the world | FT Film
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfaubxeS5HU
• What is the Inflation Reduction Act?
• Georgia Embraces Clean Energy Dollars
• General Electric brings Jobs back to America
• How Inflation Reduction Act changed the world
• What the Inflation Reduction Act means for Europe
• Trade tensions and international relations
• China remains the factory of the world
• What the Inflation Reduction Act means for the global south
• A Second Trump administration could change everything
The GREAT Biden economy just continues to roll along, benefiting AMERICANS at every turn, despite the harmful impediments of Repubs.
FT says Biden's IRA has changed the WORLD.
How Biden's Inflation Reduction Act changed the world | FT Film
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfaubxeS5HU
What is the Inflation Reduction Act?
Georgia Embraces Clean Energy Dollars
General Electric brings Jobs back to America
How Inflation Reduction Act changed the world
What the Inflation Reduction Act means for Europe
Trade tensions and international relations
China remains the factory of the world
What the Inflation Reduction Act means for the global south
A Second Trump administration could change everything
The GREAT Biden economy just continues to roll along, benefiting AMERICANS at every turn, despite the harmful impediments of Repubs.While Matt Taibbi and a couple of other hopeless Wingers here are whining over a "see 3:23" video clip of a show host practically throwing her body between Ramaswamy and the camera in order to PROTECT and PREVENT him from continuing to make an utter, political career-destroying ass of himself committed to video forever, in other words, HELPING Repubs win elections as typical MSM does for a living, the video you linked provided the truth about something Real, Tangible and Positive for America First and the rest of the World Second; Bidenomics.
The same typically pro Repub MSM does that all the time on behalf of their beloved Repub candidates and aspiring Repub politicians like Ramaswamy.
That is why I was Just Curious if anyone had ever seen Breitbart, Fux News or, really, any MSM outlet finally ask those 2-3 questions that, had they been asked repeatedly over the past 2-3 years as they properly should have been asked, no Repub or Trumper could rhapsodize about how Trump's policies were great or anything but what they were; Historically Horrific.
The millions of deaths in America and around the world, the economic disaster and the Inflation were ALL the direct result of Donald J. Trump's economic and national security policies, stewardship and lies.
But you won't see and hear MSM routinely broaching that blatantly obvious 2 Big Dots connection. Because doing so would eliminate the Scott Free Ride on those results Trump has been taking since his policies, stewardship and lies created Trump's Pandemic.
But the Landmark Historic Economic Accomplishment of Biden and the Dems has, relatively speaking, been kept a secret up to now.
LOL. Wingers should be thanking their ChristoFacist God every day for the ongoing electioneering gift Mainstream Media provides for their beloved America-hating Repub candidates like that host did for Ramaswamy and his future as anything other than a looney mental carnival midway geek.
MarquisdeSade1
01-19-24, 15:20
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/01/this-should-be-republicans-red-line-in-any-immigration-deal/
MarquisdeSade1
01-19-24, 19:58
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/style/survival-skills-sere-class-wilderness.html
Typically pro Repub Mainstream Media must be smacking their lips and drooling over the prospect of another round of Trump / Repub Crap Results, Economic Collapse, Massive Job Destruction and "A Once in 100 Years Disaster Has Struck"! Headlines.
Obviously, this Historic Biden / Dem Economic Recovery, Expansion, Jobs Creation, Record Low Unemployment, Rising Wages, NO America at War ANYWHERE, Strengthening The Western Alliance and Democracy Around the World, Lower Crime Rates, Lower Homicide Rates, Historic Climate Change Legislation, Historic Future-assuring Chips Act, Historically High Rate of Health Insurance Coverage re ACA, Drive to Keep Sex For Pleasure Legal in America, etc thingy is simply too boring for them to spend much time mentioning it much less reporting it in detail and crediting the POTUS and Party responsible for it.
LOL. All three network evening MSM News programs went even further to protect and prevent Repub Trump from coming off as the America-hating wannabe Authoritarian Dictator he is than that host in the "see 3:23" video clip did for Ramaswammy, trying to prevent him from committing to video for all time what a total blithering conspiracy theory Loon he is:
Donald Trump said the law doesnt apply to him if hes president. Network news evening broadcasts didnt mention it.
Jan. 18, 2024
https://www.mediamatters.org/broadcast-networks/donald-trump-said-law-doesnt-apply-him-if-hes-president-network-news-evening
Donald Trump on January 18 gave political reporters plenty to talk about: threats of bedlam if the Supreme Court doesnt overrule state decisions and place his name on state ballots and a claim that total immunity gave him free rein to subvert the results of the 2020 election. All three major broadcast outlets evening news shows failed to cover these incendiary remarks.
....
Failing to report on Trumps threats and incendiary remarks effectively sanitizing Trump for a mass audience is exactly the sort of coverage decision that spurred Media Matters to name legacy media our Misinformer of the Year for 2023. If these major news outlets continue this trend, were in store for a repeat of 2016.LOL. And to think the whiny Winger snowflakes of the world actually mistake these constant efforts by typically pro Repub MSM to protect their beloved America-hating Repub pols and prevent their most damaging characteristics and results from being revealed to the American Electorate as some sort of mean ol' censorship or violation of their 1st Amendment rights. Lolol.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/style/survival-skills-sere-class-wilderness.htmlWhy don't Repubs just stop producing and presiding over Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions, Great Repub Skrocketing Unemployment Rates, Great Repub Massive Jobs Destruction, Great Repub National Security Failures, Great Repub "Once in 100 Years Disasters"! Etc results and, you know, start producing at least one iddy bitty Great Economic Boom and Historic Jobs Creation every few decades as a means to finally win more votes than the Dem at presidential election time?
I realize it requires some heavy lifting, taking on a bit of political risk and, most dreaded of all for Repubs, actually working and doing something for their paychecks.
But, damn, gearing up for Domestic Terrorism and all that camouflage garb and make up involved in those violent, cop-killing riots to get their way and in power, not to mention the legislating of 100's of election-rigging scams in at least 41 states must be exhausting too, no?
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/01/this-should-be-republicans-red-line-in-any-immigration-deal/Repubs don't want the border to be under control or comprehensive Immigration Reform to be enacted any more than Repub Nude Grinbitch, Repub John NoBoner or any other Repub Speaker of the House wanted the budget to be balanced, the economy to do well or jobs to be created when a Dem is in the White House. Hell, they don't even want that to happen when one of their own is in the White House! LOL.
If anything, they would much prefer Biden not follow his Constitutional duty as POTUS with regard to honoring USA-agreed upon International Treaty and Law as he has been doing all along and instead actually promote and preside over a completely lawless Open Borders policy, which he has not promoted or presided over.
MarquisdeSade1
01-20-24, 01:32
Here's the problem: Trump IS completely full of shit every time he opens his mouth. Officially, verifiably, provably, personally, legally and fully substantiated by the facts and the record.
Which I assume would come as a shock to ignorant numbskulls like Matt Taibbi. And that is hilarious! I mean, isn't he supposed to be a journalist or something? LOL.
Whatever.
I suppose we'll have to file the very special response a Real News outlet gives to a Donald J. Trump speech that cannot be factchecked on the fly under a "Mrs. Gump, your boy is (pause) different" category.
Personal and business legal affairs of Donald Trump:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_and_business_legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump#text=Investors%20 are%20 suing%20 Donald%20 Trump, scheduled%20 for%20 January%2029%2 see%202024.
My God. Somebody tell that poor Matt Taibbi dude to do a little research before he opens his pie hole. Educate himself! His beloved hack Comedian In Chief has had to pay Tens of Millions of dollars for perpetrating innumerable con jobs and frauds.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/01/18/rubio-this-is-exactly-how-state-run-media-is-used-by-authoritarian-governments/
Elvis 2008
01-20-24, 04:00
At this point, the copium is now going to have to be started up intravenously as just swallowing it may not be enough.
Fani Willis is the the in Fulton County, the county Atlanta is in, and where Trump was losing it in the 2020 election. It was determined that Fulton County was the very model of fairness for the entire world with regards to elections and anyone who dared question election integrity like Trump needed to be struck down. So Fani Willis, AKA that chosen the, embarked on reigning in the evil snake who used to be president, Donald Trump.
And Fani, the chosen one, delivered. Indictment after indictment fell from the skies, and she hit the savage Republicans with her ample abundance. She got Trump follower after follower to fall. Even Trump attorney Sidney Powell could not resist the power of Fani, and Powell fell down and had to take a humiliating plea deal. Surely, it was just a matter of time before the Don himself fell to the Chosen one, Mighty Fani Willis. You go girl! Stamp out that white supremacy!
The Democratic douches had themselves a superhero.
And then came the fall: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fani-fingered-jilted-wife-trump-georgia-fiasco-drops-bank-statements-revealing-lavish.
Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
The jilted wife of the Fani Willis' alleged lover and outside counsel Nathan Wade dropped receipts in a Friday court filing, revealing that Wade purchased plane tickets in Willis' name, with alleged travel to places such as Napa Valley, California, Florida and the Caribbean, according to the Daily Caller.
According to records filed in the Wade divorce, Wade bought tickets for he and Fani to travel on both Norwegian and Royal Caribbean cruise lines.
The Friday filing was made in response to Willis's attempt to quash a subpoena for her to testify in the divorce proceedings. With Willis accusing Joycelyn Wade Thursday of seeking to "harass and embarrass" her to obstruct the Trump case.
Wade's wife hit back Friday, calling Willis' arguments "disingenuous," and said that the evidence is clear "Ms. Willis was an intended travel partner" for several trips.
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Fani Willis is trying to quash travel receipts in a divorce proceeding? LOL. Citizens of Fulton County, it is now your patriotic duty to NOT pay taxes.
And I have to greatly admire the editors of Zero Hedge. Has there ever been a better headline than Fani fingered?
MarquisdeSade1
01-20-24, 07:36
From the likes of the American hating traitors in this thread!!
Allahu Akbar MOFOS!!
But ChristoFacist Mike and Marjorie Taylor Greene don't want that
Repubs don't want the border to be under control or comprehensive Immigration Reform to be enacted any more than Repub Nude Grinbitch, Repub John NoBoner or any other Repub Speaker of the House wanted the budget to be balanced, the economy to do well or jobs to be created when a Dem is in the White House. Hell, they don't even want that to happen when one of their own is in the White House! LOL.
If anything, they would much prefer Biden not follow his Constitutional duty as POTUS with regard to honoring USA-agreed upon International Treaty and Law as he has been doing all along and instead actually promote and preside over a completely lawless Open Borders policy, which he has not promoted or presided over. You NAILED IT! You're ABSOLUTELY right! Couldn't agree more!
How Repubs just love to jump up and down, or rant and rave about border security and immigration, but when presented with a clear, concise and bonafide solutions, they "run away", back-down and back-out of a great bi-partisan deal, because the wanna be dictator, anti-democracy and nihilist Trump, tells them "when to jump" and "how high to jump".
House approves resolution denouncing Bidens open-border policies
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4414432-house-approves-resolution-denouncing-bidens-open-border-policies
President Joe Biden, presents one the the best Border Security and Immigration bills in years and Repubs would rather wallow in the mud, dirt and filth of it all, rather then come clean about viable and real solutions to the problem.
Even Sen.Lindsey Graham (for crying out loud), told MAGA Republicans in the House: "...to those who think if Pres. Trump wins (which I hope he does), that we can get a better deal...you won't!!! Look you gotta get 60 votes in the US Senate. So to my Republican friends, to get this kind of border security, without granting a pathway to citizenship, is really unheard of..."
But, as per frickin' usual Republicans, DO NOT WANT TO ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING w/r to GOVERNING!!!!
But wait a minute...now that I think about it, it all makes perfect sense. Meaning... if the Dems present viable bipartisan solutions to the border security and immigration problems, Repubs would have admit they have NOTHING ELSE to run a campaign on! (...kkKk!!)
Just like Hunter Biden, his father calls the Republicans' bluff (but this time on border security and immigration), and they fold up like a "cheap tent".
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