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Gang! I told you, told you, told you, told you, told you! I said be patient! Time to pay the piper! And folks? We're just getting started with this threat to American democracy! Mark my words!I also predicted that we'd see the Orange in orange eventually.
It's happening.
Gang! I told you, told you, told you, told you, told you! I said be patient! Time to pay the piper!
Yes, you did, tell me! And yes you did say to be patient! Although, at the time you we're preaching to the choir, it was still good to hear, nonetheless.
And folks? We're just getting started with this threat to American democracy! Mark my words!Truer words, truer words! Democracy is ALWAYS an ongoing struggle and evolving framework, in which we live and fight for, everyday.
But I'd argue, that the threat to an American Democracy, had already started and has been in "crosshairs" of the QAnon/Repub/MAGA cult and right-wing billionaire conservative Project 2025 insurrectionists, since Jan 6th and before.
Regardless of which way the verdict went...things were only going to get more interesting for American democracy!
After this rigged verdict, I don't think anyone is going to believe that any more. Rules are so lax in California they probably will have more votes than voters.
Oh, you mean you believe the polls that show the one favorable demographic for Biden? LOL. God, you are such a douche.
So come back with your Trump is a felon bullshit. Truth is I went on today to donate money to Trump or rather to protest that American voters and not some rigged jury pool and partisan hack judge decide an election, and all his websites have had so much traffic today I cannot get the page to load.
Then I saw this "A GOP source told me that WinRed, the Republican donation platform, is overwhelmed at the moment. " Well, a fool and his money.
Come on Elvis.
The USGOV takes its citizens worldwide. Does not matter if you are in the country or not. Taxation earns you representation. So, those who are taxed get to vote. Pretty straight forward!
If someone is not in the country, but they are paying tax to the country, they are not using any of the resources or infrastructure of the country. How about that? Now I am certain you were just being sarcastic, but please my bother keep it real!
I have an idea. Why don't YOU take less in social security and pay for YOUR own health insurance like I do and we take the tax rate to 5%? Or maybe we should tax your wealth by 50% because you are no longer in the country? And seeing as how you are not in the USA, I question why YOU even get to vote.
You are such a typical boomer pig.
Elvis 2008
05-31-24, 15:05
Now I am certain you were just being sarcastic, but please my bother keep it real!SC, how can I be sarcastic and keep it real at the same time? Yeah, of course, Americans living abroad should not have to pay taxes as they do not pay American taxes, but you have to understand guys like Spidy and Tooms vote to use government to steal money from guys like you and me because they are too cheap to pay for their own hookers.
SC, how can I be sarcastic and keep it real at the same time? Yeah, of course, Americans living abroad should not have to pay taxes as they do not pay American taxes, but you have to understand guys like Spidy and Tooms vote to use government to steal money from guys like you and me because they are too cheap to pay for their own hookers.Nobody's policies and srewardship stole more money from America and never gave it back in your lifetime than Repub George W. Bush and Repub Donald J. Trump. Lives, jobs, stock market investments, housing values, retirement funds, inflation theft, you name it. All gone and never coming back.
I didn't vote for either one of them.
Did you?
Elvis 2008
05-31-24, 18:20
Gang! I told you, told you, told you, told you, told you! I said be patient! Time to pay the piper! And folks? We're just getting started with this threat to American democracy! Mark my words!You told us what? Obviously, you do not see this for what it is. Here is the 6th amendment: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.
If you think this criminal case was constitutional, I want some of what you are smoking. The case was designed to be overturned. It was theater, election manipulation. Biden wanted to be able to call Trump a convicted felon and now he can. That is ALL this was about.
The Secret Service is authorized to use force to protect an ex-president so unless they can be satisfied, and they won't be with anything but a jail with only Trump in it, so you can forget about jail.
Besides the sixth amendment, the judge's instructions went against a prior Supreme Court ruling, so the federal courts can step in any time they want. If Trump is released on bail pending appeal, then they probably will do nothing. If his movements are restricted, that is begging the feds to step in and they probably will and can rule the case unconstitutional and toss the verdict.
Because you Democratic douches are so intoxicated with Trump derangement syndrome, you do not see now that Republican prosecutors can step in, run on criminalizing their opponents, file some bogus charges where they do not even define what law their political opponent has broken, and get a conviction. In fact, if you are a Republican, you would almost be bound to do this.
In reality, this won't happen. The courts will overturn this decision. It will take time. It always does with the legal system but it will happen. That was how this case was designed.
But again, you douches never learn. I cannot tell you how many comments I have read from people who did not even like Trump saying "I did not like Trump but I am voting for him because I do not like what Biden is doing to him. " You guys go off on the twice impeached, 91 counts ETC ETC against Trump and do not get he is rising in the polls. To over half the country now, you have made the words "convicted felon" meaningless. It makes us wonder how many other "felons" have been convicted by lying witnesses.
And wait until the gag order comes off. OMG. Trump is going to turn this conviction into comedy gold. The first thing I would do if I were Trump is bring up someone from New York who has been robbed or had a love one murdered and Bragg let the criminal off. He is going to have fun with what hypocrites you all are with this "rule of law" nonsense.
You douches did the unthinkable with an ex-president billionaire. You made him into a victim.
Elvis 2008
05-31-24, 19:50
Well, a fool and his money.Oh I see. In your perverted view of the world, you think everyone agrees with you.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-rakes-35-million-fundraising-haul-after-guilty-verdict
"From just minutes after the sham trial verdict was announced, our digital fundraising system was overwhelmed with support, and despite temporary delays online because of the amount of traffic, President Trump raised $34.8 million dollars from small dollar donors," said Trump Campaign Senior Advisors Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles.
Trump later updated the figure to $39 million during a Friday press conference.
"Not only was the amount historic, but 29.7% of yesterday's donor's were brand new donors to the WinRed platform," they continued. "President Trump and our campaign are immensely grateful from this outpouring of support from patriots across our country. President Trump is fighting to save our nation and November 5th is the day Americans will deliver the real verdict. ".
According to the pair, the fundraising total broke the campaign's previous record for small-dollar donations in a day. Of which 30% donated through the WinRed platform, which is used by Republican candidates for fundraising.
Gang! I told you, told you, told you, told you, told you! I said be patient! Time to pay the piper! And folks? We're just getting started with this threat to American democracy! Mark my words!I am sorry, Cane. Did you say Trump was going to rake in $39 million less than 24 hours after a guilty verdict? I must have missed that one. It looks like the piper is not getting paid but fucked up the ass.
Xpartan, the fact that you think it was just me that donated to Trump means YOU are the fool.
I said it before, and I will say it again. This guilty verdict, which you Democratic douches wanted so badly, ensures a Trump victory.
After this rigged verdict, I don't think anyone is going to believe that any more. Rules are so lax in California they probably will have more votes than voters.
"Rigged", "rigged", "rigged" ...in your own words Elvis 2008, "...is that the best you got!" (...kkkk!), If you haven't gotten the QAnon\MAGA memo by now, "...everything in Trumpland, QAnon and MAGA world is RIGGED!"
This is what happens when you're FINALLY held to account and held responsible for your criminal actions. White collar crime DO NOT get a pass, because you're some billionaire the CEO of a major crypto company or billionaire CEO of the highest office U.S.A.
Well, I guess the upside is that, dear ol' Trump will finally get an opportunity to really bond and identify more with this black supporters! (...kkkk!)
And to round out the convict ex-Pres. pussy-grabber's journey into the "black experience", the polls suggest, the best way to accomplish that feat, is with some bling. Yes, perhaps in the form of matching commemorative Trump gold chains, handcuffs and/or matching gold GPS ankle bracelets. I hear, these are the some of the most envied accoutrements, worn by some of Trump fav rappers on trial, in the criminal justice system. (...kkkk!)
Oh, you mean you believe the polls that show the one favorable demographic for Biden? LOL. God, you are such a douche. (...kkkk!) That sounds like sore loser talk! Come on man, don't be a sore loser!
Bragg brought his case in a Democratic stronghold which voted overwhelmingly for Biden in 2020 (87% Biden to 12% Trump). Bring this case upstate and you might get a different result. The jurors walked into the courthouse with biases against President Trump (so powerful were these prejudices that some prospective jurors lied to try to get selected), and their own political preferences were certainly considered when reaching their verdict. It's human nature. And they followed those biases all the way through to the verdict, ignoring Michael Cohen's perjury his outright lies in court and buying the story from the State that a non-disclosure agreement is a criminal act.
In the show trials, at least the judges tried to hide their bias. Remember Justice is Blind...right? Much like our greatly venerated SCOTUS?
You, Elvis 2008, are just hilarious! You want to hold everyday hardworking American jurors up to some higher standard of moral justice, biases and prejudices, but when it comes to our highest court that is sworn to uphold our nations laws and blindly and unbiasedly dispatch said laws...you, Elvis 2008, are okay with and vehemently support, a corrupt, right-wing bribed, morally bias, politically bias, upside-down American flag & Appeal to Heaven flag flying 2/3 conservative slanted SCOTUS.
If anything you're certainly consistent in your hypocrisy.
Yeah, and if SCOTUS wasn't 2/3 conservative, ROE v WADE would still be the law of the land and Trump would have already been in jail for the J6 insurrection. I distinctly remember you, Elvis 2008, telling me the same thing, just last week w/r to SCOTUS. Funny what a difference a week makes! (...kkkk!)
So come back with your Trump is a felon bullshit. Truth is I went on today to donate money to Trump or rather to protest that American voters and not some rigged jury pool and partisan hack judge decide an election, and all his websites have had so much traffic today I cannot get the page to load.
Then I saw this "A GOP source told me that WinRed, the Republican donation platform, is overwhelmed at the moment. " Yeah, no shit.
Yeah, nothing says saving Democracy like jailing your opponent over paperwork.
Yes, by all means, rule of law reigns. Well sort of. Now come the lectures on how justice really works.
Well Elvis 2008, since your having trouble donating more of your dollars to the "Trump-two-fisted hand pumping from side-to-side, jerking-off two dicks simultaneously election deniers" fund, may I suggest, the Rudy "drip" Coffee fund? I hear you get a commemorative Guiliani "drip" poster and coffee mug set. (...kkkk!)
And while you're considering the next Repub Reich grifter's pockets to enrich, may I also suggest, from your list of Repub grifters, you think about who has the cojones, to consider doing what is right for the benefit of the party winning in 2024, now that citizen Trump is now convict Trump:
Now that Trump has been convicted, where are Repubs on having a convicted felon and criminal as their leader?
Repubs can still remove Trump as their elected leader...but will they, come July 15-18, 2024?
Will Repubs step-up and do the right thing and remove the criminal Trump from their ranks?
Will the Repub sycophants resume their subservient position, ON THEIR KNEES, bowing and grovelling to the orange throne, once more? Or take the opportunity to rid themselves of the "Orange Menace"?
Since it's plainly obvious that the WOMEN's VOTE is the "Achilles Heel" for Repubs, I think Repubs should re-instate Nikki Haley, as the Repubs best chances of winning. Yes?
Like I said if there is a guilty verdict, Trump wins in a landslide to save Democracy. This is no longer about Trump. It is about standing up against a rigged system designed to steal power from voters.Once again, it sounds like you got your wishes. A GUILTY verdict to ensure the result for a pussy-grabber's "landslide". So why all whining?
Dow closes more than 570 points higher to post best day in 2024, stocks wrap a winning May.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/30/stock-market-today-live-updates.html?__source=androidappshare
Not only did the US Stock Market love those 34 Trump felony convictions, but I have seen no meaningful change even in the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics' No Toss Up Electoral College States Map showing Biden only needing to close and surmount a mere 0. 1, 0. 5. , 2. 3 point, statistical tie difference between him and Trump on their Average polls in the only three Battleground states Biden needs to clinch the required 270 EC Votes to continue his leadership as one of the greatest Presidents in history, WI. , MI. , PA.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states
Which, of course, would be easy to do today with Biden's dramatic advantage on ground game tools already set up in those states while Trump has almost nothing.
It is very, very likely that Joe Biden would win the election if it were held today. Been that way for many weeks really. Well before Biden slaughters Trump in any debate that Trump can't find a basement Men's Room toilet to hide from and will only go full Captain Queeg in response to any question on a presidential level topic in any fair setting.
You know, the reason his lawyers in every civil or criminal trial practically tackles him to the floor to prevent him from testifying under Oath about anything as simple as what day it is, is this a photo of your wife, when did WWII happen, did you run against Barack Obama or George W. Bush in a previous election, was the Air Force involved in the Revolutionary War and so on.
SC, how can I be sarcastic and keep it real at the same time? Yeah, of course, Americans living abroad should not have to pay taxes as they do not pay American taxes, but you have to understand guys like Spidy and Tooms vote to use government to steal money from guys like you and me because they are too cheap to pay for their own hookers.You killing me brother. ROTFLAO! All humor is based in truth. Otherwise it wouldn't be funny. I get your point. It is not the taxes so much. I get the advantages of the blue passport and the USD. I don't like to pay taxes but it is what it is. After I learn about money my biggest question has been: "If USGOV can just print more of it out of thin air why do the need my money?" LOL!
I think we should decide who gets elected in the ballot box not the courtroom. I think the pursuit of Trump in the court system shows the decline of the (Dis) United States of America. Makes the place no different from other countries that USGOV is often critical. I vote my own personal self interests. So I am a one issue voter this election cycle: Crypto. Although I also happen to believe crypto current is and will continue to be a critical part of the economy in the USA. It should not be feared by USGOV but embraced. Peer to Peer transactions cannot be stopped. Crypto is as basic as the old trading post of the gold rush days. Just in a new digital form.
Oh I see. In your perverted view of the world, you think everyone agrees with you.What? Why?
All I'm saying is this:
- 12 jurors found your idol guilty on every single count.
- there is no way some of these jurors aren't republicans and even trumpists.
- and yet, they agreed on the guilty verdict on the second day of deliberation -- forced to agree -- because the prosecution proved their case beyond reasonable doubt.
- which means (and I'm deeply sorry to have to say this to you) that everyone who honestly believes in "rigged", are not exactly the sharpest tools in the box.
I hope you've managed to get through and send your money successfully.
Today I got 3, count 'them, 3 emails from the self-described multi-billionaire who will never ask anyone for money, begging me to give him money or "We will lose our country"!
Lolol. Uh. No, I am not such a pathetic sucker that I'm going to give money to The Worst (former) President in History so he can identify, embrace and exacerbate another Repub "Once in 100 Years Disaster" that will again and again and again wipe out millions of jobs, crash the economy, shut down businesses and skyrocket inflation on the desperate but necessary recovery.
Enough already. Never. Nobody is that good a conman, certainly not ridiculous Donald J. Trump. You've got to be kidding me. LOL.
In reality, this won't happen. The courts will overturn this decision. It will take time. It always does with the legal system but it will happen. That was how this case was designed.
Yes it was designed by Trumpel - delay delay. There is only 1 Way against Gangsters like Tump - Putin / Kim can explain you!
Trump is going to turn this conviction into comedy gold.
You forget that not all Americans are crazy MAGA. There are at least 53% against this Criminal.
I am sorry, Cane. Did you say Trump was going to rake in $39 million less than 24 hours after a guilty verdict? I must have missed that one. It looks like the piper is not getting paid but fucked up the ass.To pay his legal bills LOL! And he better hope his lawyers do a better job the next time lest he too end up on Rikers Island getting fucked in the ass like his boy Weisselberg! LMAO!
Elvis 2008
06-01-24, 17:40
Once again, it sounds like you got your wishes. A GUILTY verdict to ensure the result for a pussy-grabber's "landslide". So why all whining?Spidy, your primary focus in life is having a government stealing money from hard working people to send to you so you can fuck women. That is not me. I work and pay my own way. I also see that the government you so love can turn against you.
On the Republican side, we were prepped for this verdict. It was not a shock. It was sadness. Our brains knew this verdicts were going this way. Our hearts and emotions wanted to believe though that this travesty of justice would not happen.
As a monger, you must be living in a bubble. You must not meet any crazy women. So in this case when a woman says she had consensual sex with you one time, then signs a statement saying she did not, and then says you raped her, we should believe you raped. And the fact that she has a verdict against you for $500,000 and admits on the stand she is never going to pay it does not constitute reasonable doubt.
I had to listen to this nonsense from Tooms about how he is a law abiding citizen. He is so delusional he wants a fellow monger to believe he was only seeing hookers in countries where it was legal. Ha! And now with you, Soy Boy, you are in the imaginary bubble where the police love you and would never charge you and all the hookers are sane. Well, I think by now, we all know how delusional you two are.
Soy boy, a tool like you said we should believe all women even porn actresses. So which version of events from Stormy Daniels are we supposed to believe?
This Reuters / Ipsos poll taken after Trump's 34 felony convictions were announced shows Biden ahead of Trump among 2135 Registered Voters in the Head-to-Head and when they added Kennedy:
Majority believe prosecution of Donald Trump upheld rule of law, not motivated by politics.
About one in ten Republicans say they will not vote for Trump with a felony conviction.
May 31, 2024
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-believe-prosecution-donald-trump-upheld-rule-law-not-motivated-politics
The latest survey from Reuters/Ipsos, which began fielding following the announcement of a guilty verdict in the New York criminal trial against Donald Trump regarding hush money payments, shows that a majority of Americans believe the prosecution was about upholding the rule of law and not politically motivated. Donald Trump and Joe Biden remain locked in a close race for the 2024 presidential election. Following the conviction, a small, but not insignificant number, of Republicans say they will not vote for Trump with a felony conviction. One in five Americans say the recently concluded trial of Donald Trump has positively impacted their view of the American criminal justice system, while a quarter say it has negatively impacted their perceptions.
You douches did the unthinkable with an ex-president billionaire. You made him into a victim.
"Victim?"...perhaps! But perhaps, not in the way you imagine.
According to the Roy Cohn "mob boss playbook", Trump has posthumously entered the "victim" phase, as noted in the "Bully. Coward. Victim." biography of the infamous bad man and notoriously corrupt gangster lawyer and once mentor to Trump, only servers to remind us, that the hubris of bad men, is just a temporary artful dodge, on the unbreakable path, to their eventual and inevitable demise.
Bully. Coward. Victim: The Story of Roy Cohn | Why Now Is The Time To Talk About Roy Cohn | HBO 6-min video convos w/r to the Story of RC as it relates to DJT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD9ufYUseHU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYpZreBOyrQ
Trump the Bully
Trump the Coward
And now, Trump the "Victim"?
Dutifully and unwittingly, said Elvis 2008, as you've highlighted, the next phase of the Trump spiraling downfall, as he follows in his mentor's footsteps, into "VICTIM", which is right on cue and right out of the Roy Cohn playbook.
As to what version of "victim", comes next for Trump, maybe "poetic" for some, and yet for others may seen it as "poetic justice".
"Victim?"...perhaps! But perhaps, not in the way you imagine.
According to the Roy Cohn "mob boss playbook", Trump has posthumously entered the "victim" phase, as noted in the "Bully. Coward. Victim." biography of the infamous bad man and notoriously corrupt gangster lawyer and once mentor to Trump, only servers to remind us, that the hubris of bad men, is just a temporary artful dodge, on the unbreakable path, to their eventual and inevitable demise.
Bully. Coward. Victim: The Story of Roy Cohn | Why Now Is The Time To Talk About Roy Cohn | HBO 6-min video convos w/r to the Story of RC as it relates to DJT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD9ufYUseHU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYpZreBOyrQ
Trump the Bully
Trump the Coward
And now, Trump the "Victim"?
Dutifully and unwittingly, said Elvis 2008, as you've highlighted, the next phase of the Trump spiraling downfall, as he follows in his mentor's footsteps, into "VICTIM", which is right on cue and right out of the Roy Cohn playbook.
As to what version of "victim", comes next for Trump, maybe "poetic" for some, and yet for others may seen it as "poetic justice".The problem with Trump and every other Repub is not really whatever persona they project. The problem is their favorite and repeated policy and stewardship results are total crap. And that being the case, there will always be America-hating Repub voters salivating at the opportunity to vote for them, a Mainstream Media only too happy to work "Bothsiderism" and their self-serving disastrius headline needs to support and steer them to that end.
If Elvis was not blaming Dems for "forcing" poor baby Repubs to race to their beloved Worst President in History Trump to put him back in office to produce more Worst Results in History by turning him into a victim after his 34 Felony Convictions he would be blaming Dems for turning him into a winner if he had been acquitted. LOL. And turning him into a revisionist history acceptably ok potus for allowing him to get away with whatever 2016 election fraud he wanted if he hadn't been indicted, tried and convicted of his 34 Felonies in that regard.
Convicted, acquitted or ignore the Rule of Law and leave him blissfully unindicted, this current Repub fever to put him back in office to produce more Worst President in History results and their blaming Dems for it would be no different.
There is no way to prevent America-hating Repub voters from racing to vote for the next Repub / Trump's Pandemic, Great Depression, Great Recession, Massive Job Destruction, Multiple Bear Market Declines, Inevitable Dem Recovery Inflation and on and on and blaming Dems for "forcing" those poor babies to do it no matter who the Repub is, Hoover, Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes, Trump, convicted, acquitted or ignore their crimes altogether, it doesn't matter.
Hmm, if an ordinary citizen was worried about election integrity, what could they do? They could volunteer to work as an election judge. Like I do.
Elvis 2008
06-02-24, 21:56
What? Why?
All I'm saying is this:
- 12 jurors found your idol guilty on every single count.
- there is no way some of these jurors aren't republicans and even trumpists.
- and yet, they agreed on the guilty verdict on the second day of deliberation -- forced to agree -- because the prosecution proved their case beyond reasonable doubt.
- which means (and I'm deeply sorry to have to say this to you) that everyone who honestly believes in "rigged", are not exactly the sharpest tools in the box.
I hope you've managed to get through and send your money successfully.LOL. This is what we should do if any Jewish person like yourself is charged with a crime. This is your version of fair:
The police (in this case the Federal Elections commission) found you innocent.
You are charged by a prosecutor who literally ran on putting jews like you in jail.
Despite the police finding you innocent, the prosecutor charges you anyway.
The police are banned from testifying.
The charge against you is that you were funding terrorist activities against Palestinians.
The evidence against you is a check sent to a lawyer marked legal expenses.
The person putting the phrase legal expenses on the check was not you, and that person swears it was for legal expenses, and the check was sent to a lawyer.
The Judge in your case volunteered to take it.
This judge donated to the PLO.
The case is being tried in Dearborn, Michigan, the city with the most Muslims.
Potential jurors are lying on their forms to try to get on the jury.
Potential jurors are saying before the trial. I think we need to hold people like Xpartan accountable for the killing of Palestinians.
A video clip of you being insensitive to the Palestinian cause is played to the jurors.
One witness against you tells the jury you raped her. Before that she said you had consensual sex and then denied having sex with you at all, and she owes you $500,000 which she refuses to pay back.
The other witness is a convicted felon in jail for perjury among other things. He is caught lying time and time again, and he stole $50,000 from you.
This is your idea of fair? Hell, isn't a trial in the above case a waste of time?
Seeing as how you think this was fair, then all Jews accused of criminal behavior should be tried in Dearborn and only with judges who have donated to the PLO. Gee, I wonder how that will turn out.
LOL. This is what we should do if any Jewish person like yourself is charged with a crime. This is your version of fair:
The police (in this case the Federal Elections commission) found you innocent.
You are charged by a prosecutor who literally ran on putting jews like you in jail.
Despite the police finding you innocent, the prosecutor charges you anyway.
The police are banned from testifying.
The charge against you is that you were funding terrorist activities against Palestinians.
The evidence against you is a check sent to a lawyer marked legal expenses.
The person putting the phrase legal expenses on the check was not you, and that person swears it was for legal expenses, and the check was sent to a lawyer.
The Judge in your case volunteered to take it.
This judge donated to the PLO.
The case is being tried in Dearborn, Michigan, the city with the most Muslims.
Potential jurors are lying on their forms to try to get on the jury.
Potential jurors are saying before the trial. I think we need to hold people like Xpartan accountable for the killing of Palestinians.
A video clip of you being insensitive to the Palestinian cause is played to the jurors.
One witness against you tells the jury you raped her. Before that she said you had consensual sex and then denied having sex with you at all, and she owes you $500,000 which she refuses to pay back.
The other witness is a convicted felon in jail for perjury among other things. He is caught lying time and time again, and he stole $50,000 from you.
This is your idea of fair? Hell, isn't a trial in the above case a waste of time?
Seeing as how you think this was fair, then all Jews accused of criminal behavior should be tried in Dearborn and only with judges who have donated to the PLO. Gee, I wonder how that will turn out.Sorry, but your analogy fell apart at step one.
The analogy would be the police thought you didn't commit a crime because you had cleverly hidden the part that proved it was a crime in an earlier, intentional, carefully planned, uh, "bookkeeping error".
Once that, uh, "bookkeeping error" was unearthed with full documentation and multiple witness testimony for the commission of a crime, in this case a Felony designed to commit Election Fraud and steal the 2016 election, the police, DOJ, judicial system, judge, jurors and all the rest had no choice but to enforce the Rule of Law and maintain Law and Order with equal justice to all.
There. See how that worked now?
This just in! One of Trump's attorneys is calling out Lying Liars Who Lie For Their MAGA / Repub Lying Liar Are Lying Liars.
And silly.
Trump Attorney: Biden And DOJ Had Nothing To Do With Trump Conviction.
Joe Tacopina makes mincemeat out of MAGA arguments that the Hush Money conviction was set up by President Biden.
June 2, 2024
https://crooksandliars.com/2024/06/trump-attorney-biden-and-doj-had-nothing
Tacopina: This is not a federal prosecution. Joe Biden or anyone from his justice department have absolutely zero to do with the Manhattan District Attorney's Office.
They have no jurisdiction over him. They have no context with him. They have no control, certainly, over him. So, to say that Joe Biden brought this case is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard.
We know that's not the case. And even Trump's lawyers know that's not the case.
.........
You know, so people who say that make it scary that they really don't know the law or what they're talking about. I mean, to suggest that Joe Biden would be behind the Manhattan District Attorney's prosecution is silly.
Banana Republican Party, anyone?
Unconstitutional potus weaponization of the DOJ and judicial system by a wannabe authoritarian dictatorship, anyone?
'Where are all of the arrests?: Trump demands Barr lock up his foes.
The day-long run of tweets and retweets marked the most frantic stretch of Trumps public activity since he left Walter Reed.
Oct. 7, 2020
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389
Donald Trump mounted an overnight Twitter blitz demanding to jail his political enemies and call out allies he says are failing to arrest his rivals swiftly enough.
Trump twice amplified supporters criticisms of Attorney General William Barr, including one featuring a meme calling on him to arrest somebody! He wondered aloud why his rivals, like President Barack Obama, Democratic nominee Joe Biden and former Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton Trump ups pressure on Barr to probe Bidens as election nears.
Oct. 21, 2020
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-william-barr-elections-20fd56b64801dd83b1657c630a1ebdfa
President Donald Trump on Tuesday called on Attorney General William Barr to immediately launch an investigation into unverified claims about Democrat Joe Biden and his son Hunter, effectively demanding that the Justice Department muddy his political opponent and abandon its historic resistance to getting involved in elections.
With just two weeks to go before Election Day, Trump for the first time explicitly called on Barr to investigate the Bidens and even pointed to the nearing Nov. 3 election as reason that Barr should not delay taking action. Trump has been leveling accusations of corruption against Biden without verified evidence for months, but is stepping up the pressure in the final days of the campaign.Uh, Donnie, that is because there was no evidence of any wrongdoing by those Dems, you ignorant, America-hating fuck. As your own AG told you over and over again.
Which is very, very, very, very much unlike the overwhelming, compelling and conclusive evidence for Donnie's 34 Felony Convictions, as fairly determined first by a Grand Jury of ordinary American citizens and later by a 12 member jury of his peers in a Criminal Trial, all fully vetted, screened and approved of by Donald J. Trump himself.
Elvis 2008
06-03-24, 16:55
The analogy would be the police thought you didn't commit a crime because you had cleverly hidden the part that proved it was a crime in an earlier, intentional, carefully planned, uh, "bookkeeping error".
There. See how that worked now?No, what I see is a dumb Democratic douche who quotes the "experts" whenever he can such that it benefits him. In this case, the expert was the Federal Elections Commission. And what you, a dumb Democratic douche, does not get is the FEC fined Hiliary for her role in Russiagate and looked into this matter with Trump and issued no fine. She tried to rig the election not Trump.
In other words, these experts did not even find a misdemeanor worth charging for and what Hiliary did was 100 X worse and she did get fined.
And so you can insert your usual belly aching about how biased anyone against you is who speaks the truth and how the FEC is so biased for Republicans.
And you can see the douche behavior continue with he was found guilty on all counts. What were the counts? What was the crime? And how was this jury right and the FEC wrong then?
And this is too fucking stupid to even debate so you can have the last word. I like what one journalist said. You do not charge someone running for president with a crime unless that crime is super, super serious in an election year. To charge the leading candidate for president with a case in an election year with something this fucking stupid was the real crime.
Hmm, if an ordinary citizen was worried about election integrity, what could they do? They could volunteer to work as an election judge. Like I do.Outstanding idea. But that would require our political keyboard warriors to enter the real world and actually participate in the electoral process. LOL!
Spidy, your primary focus in life is having a government stealing money from hard working people to send to you so you can fuck women. That is not me. I work and pay my own way. I also see that the government you so love can turn against you. ...
As for the grand delusions of Elvis 2008...Where is doth it begin, and where doth it end? Well no one really knows and who really cares?
However, the unsolicited "fishing expeditions", wild and crazy notions, and efforts to garner information about what may, or may not be, the real lives, livelihoods and whereabouts of an ISGer, is if anything...all a bit "doxxy-cringy".
Paycheck Superhero?:
It's only natural, that when our Elvis 2008, makes up these elaborate stories and pretenses, about how this ISG Dem or that ISG Dem, earns their money or "gov't paycheck", that he would play the part of "Paycheck Superhero", having a soooooooo much bigger, better, larger, taller, greener and thicker stack of cheese, than the belittled ISG Dems who just love gov't cheese.
Yes, our "braggadocios paycheck superhero", does paint a good picture of himself. Well, it is his fantasy after all. (...kkkk!) In his mind, he is the Repub "self-made paycheck" superhero and ISG Dems are just "gov't paycheck" villains?
Patience is a Virtue:
So while ISGers like Elvis 2008, are trying to create these elaborate narratives, stories and pretense, to satisfy their suppositions, speculations and wild conjectures about other ISGers, its been said to Elvis 2008, on several occasions (similar to what I was told about Trump), "...just be patient, as people/ISGers will often tell you who they are, without you asking. Just Be Patient!"
Next Episode/Installment:
Hey, Elvis 2008, if "PATIENCE" is your thing and doesn't work for you, can I make a suggestion w/r to your next episode of Paycheck Superhero? That you make your "villains", more evil, lecherous and wanton for gov't cheese.
Look at how really cool that would be, when you bring down these "badass villains" (that pilfer gov't coffers) with your superhero paycheck power?
I only ask, that if Spidy, is going to play a "badass villain", in a continuing role, in your Paycheck Superhero story, that it's only fair he gets, a $48 million dollar luxury yacht, like the one the Russians (and gullible House Repubs) reported Zelensky brought with US Gov't aid money.
I mean, how cool would that be, to give Spidy a luxury yacht, so he can really live up to the role of badass "gov't paycheck" super villain? (...kkkk!)
Wouldn't that be a cool storyline for your next episode of Paycheck Superhero,...don't you think?
PS: And while your at it, your pretenses would be less "doxxy-cringy" if perhaps, you throw-in a yachting junket in the Caribbean, with a few dozen bikini-clad bronzed Brasileiras, sipping champagne and Caipirinhas (...kkkk!)
Elvis 2008
06-03-24, 21:20
As for the grand delusions of Elvis 2008...Where is doth it begin, and where doth it end? Well no one really knows and who really cares?
All your bullshit and there is no denial of what I said. Even Tooms has someone admitting he is a monger. With you, there are crickets. In fact, there is not one post of yours that I could find that has anything to do with mongering at all. Is the only reason you are here is to talk politics?
LOL. This is what we should do if any Jewish person like yourself is charged with a crime. This is your version of fair:
The police (in this case the Federal Elections commission) found you innocent.
You are charged by a prosecutor who literally ran on putting jews like you in jail.
Despite the police finding you innocent, the prosecutor charges you anyway.
The police are banned from testifying.
The charge against you is that you were funding terrorist activities against Palestinians.
The evidence against you is a check sent to a lawyer marked legal expenses.
The person putting the phrase legal expenses on the check was not you, and that person swears it was for legal expenses, and the check was sent to a lawyer.
The Judge in your case volunteered to take it.
This judge donated to the PLO.
The case is being tried in Dearborn, Michigan, the city with the most Muslims.
Potential jurors are lying on their forms to try to get on the jury.
Potential jurors are saying before the trial. I think we need to hold people like Xpartan accountable for the killing of Palestinians.
A video clip of you being insensitive to the Palestinian cause is played to the jurors.
One witness against you tells the jury you raped her. Before that she said you had consensual sex and then denied having sex with you at all, and she owes you $500,000 which she refuses to pay back.
The other witness is a convicted felon in jail for perjury among other things. He is caught lying time and time again, and he stole $50,000 from you.
This is your idea of fair? Hell, isn't a trial in the above case a waste of time?
Seeing as how you think this was fair, then all Jews accused of criminal behavior should be tried in Dearborn and only with judges who have donated to the PLO. Gee, I wonder how that will turn out.Calling it utterly illogical doesn't even begin to describe your train of thoughts. It's a clear manifestation of a deluded, hallucinating mind.
No, what I see is a dumb Democratic douche who quotes the "experts" whenever he can such that it benefits him. In this case, the expert was the Federal Elections Commission. And what you, a dumb Democratic douche, does not get is the FEC fined Hiliary for her role in Russiagate and looked into this matter with Trump and issued no fine. She tried to rig the election not Trump.
In other words, these experts did not even find a misdemeanor worth charging for and what Hiliary did was 100 X worse and she did get fined.
And so you can insert your usual belly aching about how biased anyone against you is who speaks the truth and how the FEC is so biased for Republicans.
And you can see the douche behavior continue with he was found guilty on all counts. What were the counts? What was the crime? And how was this jury right and the FEC wrong then?
And this is too fucking stupid to even debate so you can have the last word. I like what one journalist said. You do not charge someone running for president with a crime unless that crime is super, super serious in an election year. To charge the leading candidate for president with a case in an election year with something this fucking stupid was the real crime.Why stop at presidential elections when a single congressional seat so often changes the direction of the country almost as much as that of president?
Then all of America's worst criminals will just race to the Republican Party, where they will be loving embraced and supported, and "run for election" when their trial delay tactics eventually time the start of their trials to begin in an election year. Which is officially every two years and in reality every year when you factor in special elections.
Good idea. Obviously well thought out. LOL. Pretty much par for the course for the typical Repub Criminal Party's version of Law and Order and Rule of Law. LOL.
So Mendendez' trial should be dropped or postponed until after this year's election?
How about Hunter Biden's trial? The blitheringly confused Repub Party and their typically pro Repub partners in Mainstream Media have worked so hard to equate Hunter with Joe, the trial of "President" Hunter Biden ought to be dropped or postponed until after the election too, right?
BTW, haven't you and Trump and The Repub Party and their beloved benefactors in MSM figured out if that trial and those 34 Felony Convictions hurt or helped, aided and boosted Trump's dumb hillbilly sucker Repub money grab and chances of winning another term to produce even more horrific Trump / Repub results across the board for at least "4 More Years" as seems to be the constant pitch these days?
We hear an awful lot about the latter being the case. Which is it today?
Elvis 2008
06-04-24, 05:00
It's a clear manifestation of a deluded, hallucinating mind.You made the dumb claim that there was "no way some of these jurors aren't republicans and even trumpists". Of course, you do not the numbers or names of those jurors.
And that tells me you do not understand the voir dire process. If I were the lawyer wanting to put your ass in jail in Dearborn, Michigan, I could easily get an all-Arab jury. In Manhanttan, it is child's play to get an all Democratic jury, so you are the one who is delusional. Hell, you probably think voir dire is the name of a French hooker.
If there was any interest in fairness, the case should have been moved to an area which is 50-50 Dems and Republicans. Then and only then would I agree with your claim that "no way some of these jurors aren't Republicans. ".
But your comments show me that you so desperately want to believe that this trial was fair, that you have not even figured out how it could be and was rigged.
*sigh* This has been stated clearly dozens if not hundreds of times. But it seems there are still some sad souls who just can't or won't grasp the simple reality of exactly what Trump's Felony Convictions in his scheme to commit election fraud and steal the 2016 election were for. LOL. Yeah, yeah. I know.
Well, anyway, this report and overview is about as good as any of the other dozens if not hundreds or thousands published since Trump's Felony Convictions:
What was Trump convicted of? Details on the 34 counts and his guilty verdict.
June 3, 2024
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-charges-conviction-guilty-verdict/
Elvis 2008
06-04-24, 15:46
BTW, haven't you and Trump and The Repub Party and their beloved benefactors in MSM figured out if that trial and those 34 Felony Convictions hurt or helped, aided and boosted Trump's dumb hillbilly sucker Repub money grab and chances of winning another term to produce even more horrific Trump / Repub results across the board for at least "4 More Years" as seems to be the constant pitch these days?
We hear an awful lot about the latter being the case. Which is it today?LOL. You think all polls are conducted by Republicans. They have been all over the place. What do they matter to you when you just ignore the ones not favorable to your side?
What is factual is the last report from Trump campaign is they have raised $200 million since the verdict, and the only thing you douches can say is that all the people donating are fools. Are they? Hell, if Xpartan, Spidy, the Cane, and you were put on a jury, you four could not Trump innocent of anything, and that is what I mean by the trial being unnecessary. All Alvin Bragg had to do was find 12 douches like you all, and that is child's play in Manhattan. Hell, you were clamoring for a guilty verdict before the trial even started. You are so screwed in the head you would literally find any Republican guilty of anything.
Matt Taibbi wrote this under the title: A sham case, and everyone knows it.
Maureen Dowd in the New York Times in this morning's op-ed about Donald Trump's trial Even though the case was a stretch and not the strongest one against Trump, there was something refreshing about the jury doing what no one else around Trump has been able to do not the inexplicably sycophantish Republican lawmakers, not the corrupt Supreme Court, not the slowpoke Merrick Garland.
Whoa. Trump has so altered American consciousness that detractors feel comfortable publicly supporting the idea of slapping 34 felony convictions on the man as punishment for alleged earlier offenses. Dowd's slip if it was one wasn't rare. Editorial pages, broadcast panels, even political mailers in the past days implored readers to focus on Trump's overall history, not this particular case:
New York's Jonathan Chait, who lives on the outer edge of the spectrum of Trump-detesting pundits but has expressed unease with some recent moves to unseat him, wrote "the case was always marginal" and "the sort of charge you'the concoct if the target is a bad guy and you want to nail him for something. " Like Dowd, he explained the larger justification elsewhere:
In a global sense, Trump's conviction in a court is not just fair but overdue. He has been flouting the law his entire adult life. Once he ascended to the presidency, Trump's criminality only grew. He issued illegal orders constantly, flummoxing his staff.
Alan Shepard of The New Republic wrote essentially the same thing:
The hush-money trial gets at some of that. Was Trump trying to manipulate the election? Was he trying to hide an affair from his wife? Was it a little bit of column A and column be? We'll never know precisely. What is clear is that Trump is crooked and more than a little sleazytwo things that have been part of his self-image, to varying degrees, since he first became a public figure more than 40 years ago.
Ana Navarro got The View's studio audience (read: the closest thing to a show trial gallery we have in America) hooting and cheering at the idea of punishing Trump because he "made the life of our country a living hell for six years, and so he deserves to be held accountable":
Not one of these people recognized the obvious: that of all the things Donald Trump has been accused of, none are as serious or system-imperiling as abusing the courts to dispose of a political rival. If Trump was caught buggering a corpse while smoking joints rolled in rubles, it wouldn't approach the offense of "concocting" a charge to put away someone you want to "nail" for "something. ".
Here's The New Yorker's joking reply to the notion that this was a show trial:
Trump will not be summarily executed, as so many hundreds of thousands were in the Soviet purges. He won't even have to wear an orange uniform if he does, in fact, end up serving timeinmates in New York are actually banned from doing so.
This craziness been pervasive since Trump entered the political arena, a fact buried by commentators great and small. Joe Biden's post-verdict address insisted "this is a state case, not a federal case," omitting the minor detail that original evidence came from an FBI raid conducted after Special Counsel Robert Mueller referred the matter to the Southern District of New York. Mueller's investigation, remember, grew out of the FBI's dubious Crossfire Hurricane investigation.
This is why Hillary Clinton's similar records SNAFU is more than a gotcha! Factoid. Her campaign and the DNC were fined $113,000 for labeling ex-spy Christopher Steele's dossier "legal and compliance consulting. " These reports came out in pre-election stories in 2016 accusing Trump of being vulnerable to "blackmail" and of having a "back channel" to the Kremlin, but more importantly were used to prop up bogus FISA surveillance of former Trump aide Carter Page. The dossier was also key evidence in the January, 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment that Russia conducted an "influence campaign" to "harm Clinton'selectability. ".
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein was later asked if he'the have signed the FISA warrants if he knew then what was in the applications. "No, I would not," he said. In other words: the current Trump case was about hiding an alleged escapade with a porn star maybe from a wife, maybe from the public, maybe both, but Hillary hid a role in advancing FBI and intelligence investigations of a political opponent, an infinitely more serious business that may even have helped bring about this verdict.
Editorialists are working to reshape the history of what just happened in a less dubious light. The least ridiculous might be the argument offered by Vox, suggesting Trump's prosecution isn't evidence of excess, but rather simple logic:
If a man perpetrates a wide variety of frauds over the course of decades and routinely advertises his contempt for the rule of law prosecutors may aggressively scrutinize the legality of his business records and get a bit creative in holding him legally accountable.
That "a bit creative" take blurs lines between training attention on Trump because of his politics and doing so because he "advertises his contempt for the rule of law. " Meanwhile, in another New York Times piece today called "A Felon in the White House Would Test The American System," Peter Baker argues "the notion that 34 felonies is not automatically disqualifying and a convicted criminal can be a viable candidate. Upends two and a half centuries of assumptions about American democracy":
"There is no useful historical precedent whatsoever," said Jeffrey A. Engel, the director of the Center for Presidential History at Southern Methodist University. "The interesting matter is not that a former president has been tried and convicted, as the founders might well have anticipated, but that he remains a viable candidate for office, which they would have found astounding and ultimately disheartening. ".
The question of how to create an empowered executive without making him an unaccountable monarch absorbed the framers when they designed the Constitution. They divided power among three branches of government and envisioned impeachment as a check on a rogue president. They even explicitly made clear that an impeached president could still be prosecuted for crimes after being removed from office.
Baker has it backwards. The framers would have looked at this situation as a test case for why voters must be given more power than entrenched enforcement bureaucacies.
The endless pursuits of Trump through FBI and special counsel probes, illegal leaks of intelligence products, multiple impeachments, raids and lawsuits involving hyper-aggressive laws like the KKK and Espionage Acts, overt efforts to discourage legal representation of the candidate and deny him ballot access, and now preposterously huge fines and absurd criminal penalties that are like a thumb in the eye of the Eighth Amendment, put even people who were never Trump fans in the position of weighing worst-case scenarios.
For all Trump's flaws, he isn't the unaccountable monarch in this metaphor, and even detractors are admitting it.
Going all the way back to when the Great Job Creator President Jimmy Carter required Congress to include in the budget that companies offering the terrific tax-defferred retirement fund investment bonanza of a 401 K Plan as a blessing and gift to their top executives must ALSO offer that blessing and gift to their rank and file employees, this is the first time the average participant contribution rate neared the oft-recommended 15% level.
Thank you, Jimmy.
Thank you, Joe:
Average 401 (k) savings rates recently hit a record here's what experts suggest.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/03/average-401k-savings-rate.html?__source=androidappshare
The average 401(k) plan savings rate, including employee and company contributions, recently hit a record high and the percentage is nearing a popular benchmark.
During the first quarter of 2024, the combined 401(k) savings rate reached 14.2%, according to a quarterly Fidelity analysis of almost 26,000 corporate plans and nearly 24 million participants.
That savings rate is the closest its ever been to Fidelitys recommended 15% benchmark. The investment firm estimates that a total retirement savings rate of at least 15% is a key step to being able to maintain your current lifestyle in retirement.Hard to get anywhere close to that level when Reagan, Bush1, Bush2 and Trump Repub economic policy and stewardship results are creating Great Repub Recessions, wiping out millions upon millions of jobs or skyrocketing Unemployment Rates to double digits.
Easy to do it during Bidenomics.
There is simply NO money left anywhere for anyone after Americans come home from their better and higher-paying jobs they somehow wrestled away from millions of asylum-seeking refugees and miraculously pay their rent, buy gas and eat their weekly ration of birdseed and rain water.
Even wildly liberal MSM outlets say so:
Americans Have More Investment Income Than Ever Before.
A booming economy and rising household wealth help some consumers keep spending.
June 5, 2024
https://www.wsj.com/economy/americans-have-more-investment-income-than-ever-before-84b7a6c6
Damn you, Joe Biden! The gods curse the day we didn't listen to Mainstream Media darling Larry Summers and instead found ourselves mired in a horrible state of Bidenomics!
Please bring back Trump and his $2. 5+ Trillion added to the deficit to buy a million fewer jobs with his economic "stimulus" legislation than without it, Recessions in our Manufacturing and Agro industries so severe he had to issue hefty emergency welfare checks to them just to keep them afloat, two Bear Market Declines in just 4 years and that very popular Trump's Pandemic or whatever other "Once in 100 Years Disaster" Repub Trump can identify, embrace and exacerbate in order to create another Great Repub Depression / Recession, wipe out millions upon millions of jobs, shut down businesses and schools, trigger hyper-inflation in the necessary Dem Recovery and skyrocket the cost of rent, gas and food all over again for 4 More Years!
You made the dumb claim that there was "no way some of these jurors aren't republicans and even trumpists". Of course, you do not the numbers or names of those jurors.
And that tells me you do not understand the voir dire process. If I were the lawyer wanting to put your ass in jail in Dearborn, Michigan, I could easily get an all-Arab jury. In Manhanttan, it is child's play to get an all Democratic jury, so you are the one who is delusional. Hell, you probably think voir dire is the name of a French hooker.
If there was any interest in fairness, the case should have been moved to an area which is 50-50 Dems and Republicans. Then and only then would I agree with your claim that "no way some of these jurors aren't Republicans. ".
But your comments show me that you so desperately want to believe that this trial was fair, that you have not even figured out how it could be and was rigged.What a doofus! Do you take some kind of a masochistic pleasure in embarrassing yourself over and over again?
Why would you need 50/50 when even one holdout can hang the jury?
And yet, there was no one.
They deliberated less than 1. 5 days.
The found your lord and savior guilty on all 34 charges. Not 32 or 33. All of them!
What else can you or anyone who's not a delusional and deranged cult member possibly want?
Here is a very brief video that gives some details about the process, the jurors and what their political preferences might be (here's a hint: they vary).
I hope, FOX is Republican enough for you?
https://youtu.be/pq8jmr84Z60
All your bullshit and there is no denial of what I said. Even Tooms has someone admitting he is a monger. With you, there are crickets. In fact, there is not one post of yours that I could find that has anything to do with mongering at all. Is the only reason you are here is to talk politics?
(...kkkk!) Denial? What is there to deny, when the "Paycheck Superhero", self image of yourself, lives in your own head?
Sure, what I wrote was bullshit...but in response to denounce, what a cockamamie bullshit "Paycheck Superhero" story, you OFTEN love to weave about your self, in relation to me and several other left leaning ISGers, who you know little or squat about, as you continually try to "fish" for information.
But hey, if you also want to play "Paycheck Superhero", here in this forum, (and not just all up in that wasteland of a sad noggin of yours, naturally feel free...), all I'm asking, is that, if you're going to cast me and others as "Gov't Paycheck Super Villains", then perhaps you could consider giving us equal billing?
Just saying, equal billing and a nice gov't $48 million dollar yacht for Spidy, would make for a better story in your alter-ego "Paycheck Superhero" fantasy.
N'est-ce pas?
Elvis 2008
06-05-24, 17:39
What a doofus! Do you take some kind of a masochistic pleasure in embarrassing yourself over and over again?
Why would you need 50/50 when even one holdout can hang the jury?
And yet, there was no one.
They deliberated less than 1. 5 days.
The found your lord and savior guilty on all 34 charges. Not 32 or 33. All of them!
What else can you or anyone who's not a delusional and deranged cult member possibly want?LOL. You did not even know the process and now you google it. Let's do some math. Manhattan is 95% Democrat. Of the potential jurors, 5% then voted for Trump. Out of a pool of 100 jurors, the prosecution had 10 strikes from the jury pool. All they had to do was find the 5 likely Republicans and strike them which is easy. If you watch the TV show Bull, it is staggering how easy it is these days with social media to pick out party affiliation. On top of that, "Prospective jurors can be dismissed by the judge for cause if he finds they shouldn't serve on the panel." Got it? https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/15/politics/jury-selection-process-trump-trial/index.html.
There was no fucking way a Republican or anyone who voted for Trump was going to be on that jury, and you are stupid as fuck for believing that.
And I am not embarrassing myself. You are. You made the stupid claim that there were many people who voted for Trump on that jury. You made that shit up! Once again, you only believe the facts you want to and make shit up to convince you that you are right like all the douches on this forum do.
And you cannot name what the counts are, and you know why? Because there was one count that was repeated 34 times.
What amazes me is you are too stupid to see how this could be done against YOU, and I showed you exactly how it could be. You think this judge donating to Biden did not matter? How would you feel if you had a judge in a criminal trial against you and the judge donated to the PLO? And that is why it would be a piece of cake to get an all-Arab jury against you in Dearborn. Hell, I could pick out who to put on a jury just by their fucking names, and if I as prosecutor missed on one person, the PLO donating judge could clean it up.
But you do not want to believe that right? You know hookers. How often has one lied to you? Yeah, that was the star witness. A hooker and a convicted liar and thief. This was a bookkeeping entry that Trump did not even make. Think about that for a second. You could be put in jail for a bookkeeping error you did not even enter.
So what happened to Trump absolutely could happen to you. You are just too dense to believe it.
The only reason it won't happen is you are not important enough for someone to do this to you, but in your mind, you are like, "Yeah, I am a law abiding citizen, and Trump is not" while on a fucking monger board.
Maybe you can be like "law abiding" citizen Tooms and lie and say you have only banged hookers in countries where it was legal. Unreal.
.....Let's do some math. Manhattan is 95% Democrat. Of the potential jurors, 5% then voted for Trump. Out of a pool of 100 jurors, the prosecution had 10 strikes from the jury pool. All they had to do was find the 5 likely Republicans and strike them which is easy. If you watch the TV show Bull, it is staggering how easy it is these days with social media to pick out party affiliation. On top of that, "Prospective jurors can be dismissed by the judge for cause if he finds they shouldn't serve on the panel." Got it? I love it when Elvis 2008 says "Let's do some math.". I know he is going to distort his numbers or just flat out mistake the results.
No, Elvis. Manhattan (New York County) did NOT vote for Biden at 95%. Biden collected something like 86.8% and Trump 12.3%. That would make it 7 out 8 voters went to Biden. Not the 95 out of a 100 that you claimed. What is the difference? 95% vs 87.5%. https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/new-york/.
BTW if the trial had been held in Dallas, Texas you would be complaining it wasn't fair? Dallas county voted for Biden over Trump at something like 2 out of 3.
.......You made the stupid claim that there were many people who voted for Trump on that jury. You made that shit up! Once again, you only believe the facts you want to and make shit up to convince you that you are right like all the douches on this forum do. Elvis you do this consistently. It is kind of laughable that you accuse others of doing the same.
What amazes me is you are too stupid to see how this could be done against YOU, and I showed you exactly how it could be. You think this judge donating to Biden did not matter? Seriously Elvis?? Judge Merchan donated $15 to the Biden campaign. He also donated something like $20 to other Democratic fund raisers. He also received a caution after Trump's lawyers filed an ethics complaint. Odd that you see this as a big conflict. You might want to check out some of the gifts and trips that Clarence Thomas received. Just in case judicial conflicts really bother you.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna78577
But you do not want to believe that right? You know hookers. How often has one lied to you? Yeah, that was the star witness. A hooker and a convicted liar and thief. This was a bookkeeping entry that Trump did not even make. Think about that for a second. You could be put in jail for a bookkeeping error you did not even enter.
Why don't we admit to what really happened instead of making up a rationale. Trump was in the midst of his 2016 campain and the Access Hollywood tape came out. He excused it as "locker room talk" but his campaign was worried about another story breaking. Trump had his buddy at the National Enquirer "catch and kill" some other stories. I. e. A doorman at Trump Tower and Karen McDougal's story. Then came Stormy Daniels. But under campaign rules Trump couldn't just write the check himself without getting caught and exposed. So, he had his Attorney (fixer) pay Daniels off and he was paid back monthly by submitting invoices that amortized the payment and tax consequences. This wasn't just the testimony of Michael Cohen who doesn't have a reputation for honesty it was corroborated by the David Pecker from the National Enquirer and several others. Cohen who had known Trump for ages and knew of his inherent dishonesty taped their conversation so that he had proof that Trump agreed to repay him, just in case.
So yeah, Elvis. I see your point. This could happen to any of us.
LOL. You did not even know the process and now you google it. Let's do some math. Manhattan is 95% Democrat. Of the potential jurors, 5% then voted for Trump. Out of a pool of 100 jurors, the prosecution had 10 strikes from the jury pool. All they had to do was find the 5 likely Republicans and strike them which is easy. If you watch the TV show Bull, it is staggering how easy it is these days with social media to pick out party affiliation. On top of that, "Prospective jurors can be dismissed by the judge for cause if he finds they shouldn't serve on the panel." Got it? https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/15/politics/jury-selection-process-trump-trial/index.html.
There was no fucking way a Republican or anyone who voted for Trump was going to be on that jury, and you are stupid as fuck for believing that.
And I am not embarrassing myself. You are. You made the stupid claim that there were many people who voted for Trump on that jury. You made that shit up! Once again, you only believe the facts you want to and make shit up to convince you that you are right like all the douches on this forum do.
And you cannot name what the counts are, and you know why? Because there was one count that was repeated 34 times.
What amazes me is you are too stupid to see how this could be done against YOU, and I showed you exactly how it could be. You think this judge donating to Biden did not matter? How would you feel if you had a judge in a criminal trial against you and the judge donated to the PLO? And that is why it would be a piece of cake to get an all-Arab jury against you in Dearborn. Hell, I could pick out who to put on a jury just by their fucking names, and if I as prosecutor missed on one person, the PLO donating judge could clean it up.
But you do not want to believe that right? You know hookers. How often has one lied to you? Yeah, that was the star witness. A hooker and a convicted liar and thief. This was a bookkeeping entry that Trump did not even make. Think about that for a second. You could be put in jail for a bookkeeping error you did not even enter.
So what happened to Trump absolutely could happen to you. You are just too dense to believe it.
The only reason it won't happen is you are not important enough for someone to do this to you, but in your mind, you are like, "Yeah, I am a law abiding citizen, and Trump is not" while on a fucking monger board.
Maybe you can be like "law abiding" citizen Tooms and lie and say you have only banged hookers in countries where it was legal. Unreal.Ok, let's do the math:
1. The 34 counts were the number of times Trump violated NY State Law in lying about what those 34 payments to Michael Cohen were for. If 34 kids or cops are killed by Repub-facilitated semi-automatic weapons, you get 34 counts of murder. Same thing here.
2. Falsifying business records by saying the payment was for legal fees when it was not is already a crime in NY. If you do it 34 times, that is 34 crimes.
3. Falsifying business records is bumped up to a more serious crime if it is conspired (2 or more people. Trump, Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are already 3) to be done in order to cover or mislead from another crime. In the case of Donald J Trump, in order to commit election fraud and influence the outcome of an election. To be more specific; to commit election fraud and steal the 2016 election. Which, by all easily observable reality, is exactly what they accomplished.
4. How do we know the conspiracy was to commit election fraud and thereby effect the outcome of the 2016 election? Because all of the witnesses clearly and unambiguously said so under oath or written documentation of it was presented and no witness or document suggested otherwise.
5. Why didn't Bragg have to first prove beyond a reasonable doubt in another trial with another 12 jurors that the crime of election fraud was committed in order for him to get 12 jurors to convict Trump of conspiring to commit that crime by falsifying his business records 34 times? Simple; NY State Law does not require that to be tried and proven separately as long as the conspirators knew, understood and acknowledged that they were doing it to effect the outcome of an election or that the current 12 jurors could conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that they acknowledged it.
6. Don't like that aspect of NY State Law? No problem. Then commit election fraud that way in Hooterville, Oklahoma or Ithoughtitwasafart, South Dakota and don't pull your grifty, America-hating cons and crimes in a blue state with too many people much, much smarter than you. Go con Aunt Bea and Jed Clampett.
As I have always asked, why don't Repubs every now and then simply try to produce some results other than Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions, Massive Repub Job Destruction and whatever "Once in 100 Years Disaster" they scour the landscape for to embrace and exacerbate in order to again and again Crash the USA Economy and Wipe Out Millions Upon Millions of Jobs?
If they did, they wouldn't always have to lie, cheat and steal to "win" something that the American electorate has clearly demonstrated they DO NOT WANT a Repub to win since the presidential election of 1988.
I mean, my god, they already get $Billions in free unearned and undeserved positive election campaign spin and support from their eternal beloved benefactors in Mainstream Media, no holds barred free campaign speeches, talking points, strategies and system hacks from Putin, Xi and every other enemy of America and that beautifully tailor-made for Repubs already rigged undemocratic Electoral College System on their side.
Yet they still need to pull criminal shit like this every time:
Trump aide, lawyers charged in alleged fake electors scheme in Wisconsin.
Three people, an aide to former President Donald Trump and two lawyers, are now charged with felonies in a Wisconsin 2020 fake electors scheme.
June 4, 2024
https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/politics/2024/06/04/trump-aide-two-lawyers-charged-in-2020-fake-elector-plot-in-wisconsin/73977086007/
Trumpsters / Repubs are truly pathetic.
I'm thinking these and other factors that many poll respondents are not yet educated about, including the full truth about the terrific, historic recovery from the global disaster of Trump's Pandemic thanks to Bidenomics, Trump taking away the Reproductive Rights of American Men and Women, Trump's plan to jack up Inflation and the cost of rent, gas and food even more than he did with his Trump's Pandemic and so on will more than narrow the far less than a normal +/-MoE Statistical Tie between Biden and Trump in the only 3 state EC races that matter as shown in the RCP and 538 Polling Services Consensus Polls.
Especially after any debate with Biden that Trump can't conjure up an excuse to hide from and both candidate's National Conventions.
Senate Republicans block bipartisan border security deal.
2/7/2024
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4453955-senate-republicans-block-bipartisan-border-security-deal/
It also would have provided $6.8 billion to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, $7.6 billion for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and $4 billion to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. Altogether, it would have invested $20.2 billion in improving border security.No Country for Law Men: The GOP Votes to Defund the FBI.
March 22, 2024
https://www.newsweek.com/no-country-law-men-gop-votes-defund-fbi-opinion-1882085
Republicans conditioned support for the first tranche of spending bills signed by the president on March 9 on cutting $654 million from the FBI budgetincluding $32 million that went to the heart of operations, a cut that still left far-right Republicans complaining the cuts weren't deep enough.How Republicans turned on the FBI.
May 25, 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/25/politics/republicans-fbi-what-matters/index.html
Former President Donald Trump wants to defund the FBI and Department of Justice.Senate GOP blocks bill to guarantee access to contraception.
June 5, 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/05/politics/senate-vote-contraception-access/index.html
Senate Republicans voted Wednesday to block a bill put forward by Democrats that would guarantee access to contraception nationwide, as Democrats seek to highlight the issue in the run up to Novembers elections.
The bill the Right to Contraception Act would enshrine into federal law a right for individuals to buy and use contraceptives, as well as for health care providers to provide them. It would apply to birth control pills, the plan B pill, condoms and other forms of contraception.
Elvis 2008
06-06-24, 06:15
I love it when Elvis 2008 says "Let's do some math.". I know he is going to distort his numbers or just flat out mistake the results.
No, Elvis. Manhattan (New York County) did NOT vote for Biden at 95%. Biden collected something like 86.8% and Trump 12.3%. That would make it 7 out 8 voters went to Biden. Not the 95 out of a 100 that you claimed. What is the difference? 95% vs 87.5%. https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/new-york/.LOL. All that does is make the math easier. Prosecutor has 12 jurors and finds the one or two Republican and takes the other 10 or 11. Do that x 2 and you have your jury and the alternates.
Yeah, you really showed me up. Tell me who was on the jury who was Republican and voted for Trump? Oh, you cannot. You are just another dumb Democratic douche.
Seriously Elvis?? Judge Merchan donated $15 to the Biden campaign. He also donated something like $20 to other Democratic fund raisers. He also received a caution after Trump's lawyers filed an ethics complaint. Odd that you see this as a big conflict.And his daughter was raising millions in donations playing up the trial. Only a douche like you would think Marchan was fair.
But under campaign rules Trump couldn't just write the check himself without getting caught and exposed. So, he had his Attorney (fixer) pay Daniels off and he was paid back monthly by submitting invoices that amortized the payment and tax consequences. This wasn't just the testimony of Michael Cohen who doesn't have a reputation for honesty it was corroborated by the David Pecker from the National Enquirer and several others. Cohen who had known Trump for ages and knew of his inherent dishonesty taped their conversation so that he had proof that Trump agreed to repay him, just in case.What rules? State or Federal? Trump was not running for a New York State office but a federal one. So the reason he was tried in New York was for political purposes, and you fucking know it. And the FEC knew all about what Trump did and fined him nothing, and this partisan hack of a so called judge would not let the FEC officials testify. You prove the point about how rigged the case was.
Elvis 2008
06-06-24, 15:34
Ok, let's do the math:
1. The 34 counts were the number of times Trump violated NY State Law in lying about what those 34 payments to Michael Cohen were for. If 34 kids or cops are killed by Repub-facilitated semi-automatic weapons, you get 34 counts of murder. Same thing here.
2. Falsifying business records by saying the payment was for legal fees when it was not is already a crime in NY. If you do it 34 times, that is 34 crimes.Man, you Democratic keep making fools of yourselves. You keep mentioning these 34 counts and not one of you can even correctly say what they are.
3. Falsifying business records is bumped up to a more serious crime if it is conspired (2 or more people. Trump, Cohen and Allen Weisselberg are already 3) to be done in order to cover or mislead from another crime. In the case of Donald J Trump, in order to commit election fraud and influence the outcome of an election. To be more specific; to commit election fraud and steal the 2016 election. Which, by all easily observable reality, is exactly what they accomplished.
4. How do we know the conspiracy was to commit election fraud and thereby effect the outcome of the 2016 election? Because all of the witnesses clearly and unambiguously said so under oath or written documentation of it was presented and no witness or document suggested otherwise.
5. Why didn't Bragg have to first prove beyond a reasonable doubt in another trial with another 12 jurors that the crime of election fraud was committed in order for him to get 12 jurors to convict Trump of conspiring to commit that crime by falsifying his business records 34 times? Simple; NY State Law does not require that to be tried and proven separately as long as the conspirators knew, understood and acknowledged that they were doing it to effect the outcome of an election or that the current 12 jurors could conclude beyond a reasonable doubt that they acknowledged it.And here are the facts: The payment to Daniels was made on Oct. 27. So the payment would not have been reported on the Pre-election report. The next report is the Post-Election Report.
In 2016, the Post-Election Report was required to be filed on December 8, one month after the election. So the prosecution's theory, that Trump wanted to hide the expenditure until after the election, makes no sense at all.
Even if we assume, incorrectly, that it was a campaign expenditure, it wouldn't have been reported until 30 days after the election. But again, none of this got to the jury, either through testimony or the judge's instructions.
6. Don't like that aspect of NY State Law? No problem. Then commit election fraud that way in Hooterville, Oklahoma or Ithoughtitwasafart, South Dakota and don't pull your grifty, America-hating cons and crimes in a blue state with too many people much, much smarter than you. Go con Aunt Bea and Jed Clampett.To prove election fraud, you have to prove that an expense could only be used in an election. That was never proven.
And by saying a criminal charge did not have to meet up to reasonable doubt, and I agree with you, there were reasonable doubts all over the place, means the verdict was illegal and unconstitutional and so was put in place to rig the 2024 election. This is the Alinsky method again. Accuse your opponent of what you are guilty of.
Yes, you are going to save Democracy by jailing your political opponents. You all do not give a shit about Democracy. All you care about is if your side wins.
Man, you Democratic keep making fools of yourselves. You keep mentioning these 34 counts and not one of you can even correctly say what they are.
And here are the facts: The payment to Daniels was made on Oct. 27. So the payment would not have been reported on the Pre-election report. The next report is the Post-Election Report.
In 2016, the Post-Election Report was required to be filed on December 8, one month after the election. So the prosecution's theory, that Trump wanted to hide the expenditure until after the election, makes no sense at all.
Even if we assume, incorrectly, that it was a campaign expenditure, it wouldn't have been reported until 30 days after the election. But again, none of this got to the jury, either through testimony or the judge's instructions.
To prove election fraud, you have to prove that an expense could only be used in an election. That was never proven.
And by saying a criminal charge did not have to meet up to reasonable doubt, and I agree with you, there were reasonable doubts all over the place, means the verdict was illegal and unconstitutional and so was put in place to rig the 2024 election. This is the Alinsky method again. Accuse your opponent of what you are guilty of.
Yes, you are going to save Democracy by jailing your political opponents. You all do not give a shit about Democracy. All you care about is if your side wins.Are you really that incapable of reading and comprehending what you read?
The 34 payments were not ever designated as "election expenses" or "campaign expenses".
Yet they were election campaign expenses. They were money reimbursements to Cohen for him paying Daniels for her silence.
See, that is why they were provably False, which is a crime in NY State.
As for bumping up ALL 34 of Trump's crimes to Felonies, it is not required in NY State Law that a separate trial be done to "prove" a subsequent crime was served by the Falsification as long as the conspiritors recognized it as such. Which these conspirators did according to all witness and documented testimony presented in the trial; they KNEW and UNDERSTOOD that they were Falsifying those business reports 34 times in order to produce Election Fraud and steal the 2016 election and for no other reason.
If it was as blissfully easy for it to be shown otherwise with witness or documented evidence as you have been fed by Fux News, Matt Taibbi or whatever numbskull Winger source is feeding you this silliness, the defense should have presented it at trial. If they were prevented from presenting it, then they should have found some that wasn't totally full of shit and pertinent to that case.
Apparently, it is forbidden to mention this in the Fux / Taibbi Fact-free Bubble:
"He Wrote All of it Down" - Prosecution has Weisselberg's Handwritten Notes, Spelling Out the Scheme.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/4/25/2237185/--He-Wrote-All-of-it-Down-Prosecution-has-Weisselberg-s-Handwritten-Notes-Spelling-Out-the-Scheme
Michael Cohens testimony in the election interference trial of Donald Trump shall be corroborated by a simple bank statement, on which CFO Allan Weisselberg broke down the reimbursement scheme.
..........
"He (Trump) could deny that he ever had sex with Daniels, argue he paid her off because she was extorting him, maintain theres nothing wrong with the paperwork and that he wasnt even aware of what Cohen was doing, and call everyone else a liar.
But the prosecution has David Pecker, and his description of the ongoing catch-and-kill scheme.
The prosecution also has Dylan Howard, who assisted Pecker with the scheme.
They have Trumps gatekeeper, Madeleine Westerhout.
They have Hope Hicks, who was in on the negotiations with Daniels.
They have Stormy Daniels who had sex with Trump, and can even describe his 'mushroom'.
They have Stormy's lawyer, who accepted the payment from Cohen.
All of whom will corroborate Michael Cohens testimony. Making Cohens perceived veracity-problem much less crucial.
They have a habitually cheap Trump, who doesnt pay anybody, suddenly OVERPAYING Michael Cohen a lot of money.
They have Cohen mortgaging his own home, to get the money to pay Stormy.
And they have the TrumpOrg CFOs handwritten notes, spelling out the financial details of the entire scheme.None of the conspiritors of Trump's 34 felonies truthfully listed any of those 34 payments as "election / campaign expenses. " If they had claimed just one of them as such, Trump would have been convicted of only 33 Felonies. But they didn't.
And there is no subsequent business report that supercedes the earlier one where everyone found religion and truthfully reported those payments as "election / campaign" expenses rather than the criminal Falsification of them being "legal fees / legal expenses. ".
The timeline for when the payments were made or when the submission of campaign expenses could have been reported is irrelevant gobbledygook.
The fact of the conspirators' under oath and unchallenged testimony and the written, documented and unchallenged description of the scheme along with the unchallenged audio recording of the instigator, director and sole beneficiary of the scheme discussing why and how he was going to pay all that money without the words "election / campaign expenses" being anywhere in it (do Wingers in the bubble even know that exists?) was all the jurors needed in order to convict him of those 34 Felonies.
No additional conviction of the ultimate crime for which the Business Report Falsification was done in another trial is necessary under NY State Law as long as the conspirators knew why they were doing it. As an abundance of unchallenged testimony and documentation showed in this case with zero testimony and documentation presented suggesting anything else.
Man, you Democratic keep making fools of yourselves. You keep mentioning these 34 counts and not one of you can even correctly say what they are.
And here are the facts: The payment to Daniels was made on Oct. 27. So the payment would not have been reported on the Pre-election report. The next report is the Post-Election Report.
In 2016, the Post-Election Report was required to be filed on December 8, one month after the election. So the prosecution's theory, that Trump wanted to hide the expenditure until after the election, makes no sense at all.
Seriously dude, your arrogance knows no bounds. We all know how to use Google. You want to understand the 34 counts? Here is an explanation to help you understand.
https://youtu.be/yRR6FYMs9zs?si=-snPaVq2PcOP01rg
Your next comment belies your ignorance of the law. It doesn't matter when the crime was discovered it is relevant when it was committed. Trump falsified business records in order to hide his payment to Stormy. That was the predicate act. Watch the video you might understand the whole process better. Maybe.
Damn. These Trumpsters / Repubs are pathetic!
As I have always asked, why don't Repubs every now and then simply try to produce some results other than Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions, Massive Repub Job Destruction and whatever "Once in 100 Years Disaster" they scour the landscape for to embrace and exacerbate in order to again and again Crash the USA Economy and Wipe Out Millions Upon Millions of Jobs?
If they did, they wouldn't always have to lie, cheat and steal to "win" something that the American electorate has clearly demonstrated they DO NOT WANT a Repub to win since the presidential election of 1988.
I mean, my god, they already get $Billions in free unearned and undeserved positive election campaign spin and support from their eternal beloved benefactors in Mainstream Media, no holds barred free campaign speeches, talking points, strategies and system hacks from Putin, Xi and every other enemy of America and that beautifully tailor-made for Repubs already rigged undemocratic Electoral College System on their side.
Yet they still need to pull criminal shit like this every time:
Trump aide, lawyers charged in alleged fake electors scheme in Wisconsin.
Three people, an aide to former President Donald Trump and two lawyers, are now charged with felonies in a Wisconsin 2020 fake electors scheme.
June 4, 2024
https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/politics/2024/06/04/trump-aide-two-lawyers-charged-in-2020-fake-elector-plot-in-wisconsin/73977086007/
Trumpsters / Repubs are truly pathetic.
Trump fires up the Repub Reich, to a fever pitch of kabuki retribution, as dozens of Repubs, right-wing lawmakers and media pundits/conspiracists, conspire with criminals in retribution scheme, based on Trump's petty grievances.
The Repub Reich and clowns are kicking it up a notch and taking Trump's "LOCK HER UP" campaign slogan rhetoric, on a national tour, to gin up retribution, wherever Repub and right-wing power exits, to shamefully spread lies, falsehoods, untruths and gin-up social and political attacks on Dems wherever possible. With the express goal of "LOCKING UP" and "PERSECUTING" as many fellow American Dems as possible.
This is what Trump's WANTS for America. Fascist politics and a dictator state, that translates to nothing more than REVENGE POLITICS for his crimes, insurrection and sedition! As he once again, projects his criminal pretenses on Dems.
The GOP fires up its vengeance 2024 tour
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/politics/republicans-revenge-tour-2024-trump/index.html
Does sound eerie similar, to something like a American Holocaust?
Why don't we admit to what really happened instead of making up a rationale. Trump was in the midst of his 2016 campain and the Access Hollywood tape came out. He excused it as "locker room talk" but his campaign was worried about another story breaking. Trump had his buddy at the National Enquirer "catch and kill" some other stories. I. e. A doorman at Trump Tower and Karen McDougal's story. Then came Stormy Daniels. But under campaign rules Trump couldn't just write the check himself without getting caught and exposed. So, he had his Attorney (fixer) pay Daniels off and he was paid back monthly by submitting invoices that amortized the payment and tax consequences. This wasn't just the testimony of Michael Cohen who doesn't have a reputation for honesty it was corroborated by the David Pecker from the National Enquirer and several others. Cohen who had known Trump for ages and knew of his inherent dishonesty taped their conversation so that he had proof that Trump agreed to repay him, just in case.
So yeah, Elvis. I see your point. This could happen to any of us.Seriously, Elvis is asking too much of the jury. If there were Trump sympathizers (and it's very likely there were at least one or two), they simply didn't have a choice. This is what overwhelming evidence does to jurors, LOL.
The conversation, which took place on the morning of Sept. 6, 2016, was played Thursday as part of the testimony by expert witness Douglas Daus, who handles the processing of electronic devices for the Manhattan district attorney's office.
Cohen, Trump's former attorney, secretly recorded the conversation, which lasts about two minutes, during which he and Trump seem to discuss making a $150,000 payment to Karen McDougal to keep her quiet about the alleged affair, which Trump has denied ever took place.
"I need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend, David," Cohen can be heard saying on the call, appearing to refer to National Enquirer publisher David Pecker.
Cohen seemed to be speaking about a shell company he created to originally pay American Media Inc., the National Enquirer's publisher, before the deal went through.
On the phone, Cohen is heard saying he had "spoken to Allen Weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with funding" referring to the former chief financial officer of the Trump Organization.
"So, what do we got to pay for this? One-fifty?" Trump can be heard asking in the recording.
At one point during the conversation, Trump suggested making the payment in cash.
"No, no, no, no, no, I got it," Cohen responded.https://abcnews.go.com/US/jurors-hear-secret-recording-trump-michael-cohen-allegedly/story?id=109908089
Yeah, totally rigged, LOL.
Seriously dude, your arrogance knows no bounds. We all know how to use Google. You want to understand the 34 counts? Here is an explanation to help you understand.
https://youtu.be/yRR6FYMs9zs?si=-snPaVq2PcOP01rg
Your next comment belies your ignorance of the law. It doesn't matter when the crime was discovered it is relevant when it was committed. Trump falsified business records in order to hide his payment to Stormy. That was the predicate act. Watch the video you might understand the whole process better. Maybe.That is a good overview of the facts of the case. The first 11 minutes especially. Not that most Wingers' attention span and tolerance for exposure to facts would get him / her past the first 2 minutes.
But if he / she could manage it they will be rewarded by what imo is clear bias spin in favor of poor Trumpty-Dumpty. Based on several times when she tipped her hand.
Among them:
Around the 19 minute mark, in the section where she answers a question about accusations of the trial being corrupt, she cites among a few excuses the "jury instruction debacle, which I covered before", presumably referring to the precedent established in a federal case being applied to this state case.
WTF? She never characterized the jury instructions as a "debacle" earlier. Quite the contrary. She repeatedly said that the state case example was only "a little bit different and I could see it being argued either way. ".
For the sentencing question, she dismisses the possibility that poor Trumpty-Dumpty would get (not deserve? It sure sounded like it) jail time because, after all, nothing must interfere with him running for president and it would be such a bother for the Secret Service. Then she later practically guarantees that appeals and counter appeals will likely take years to come to a final conclusion of the case, all during which time Trump can continue happily waddling, lying and threatening violence his way through a Repub presidential campaign.
She suggests that the case will probably be taken to the Supreme Winger Court and oh gee let me think, she guesses that it has the best chance of being overturned there but does not mention the blatantly obvious reason why. Leaving it to her fellow Winger / Trump-leaners to conclude, well, I guess because those 6 learned, fair and impartial QAnons on that court will see the error of the NY State Court's methods and Make America Great Again.
States Rights! Lolol.
She blythly repeats wholly unsubstantiated Trump and Trump Cult claims like that "it would be impossible for him to get a fair jury in NY" with zero "unbiased" push back on that lie.
And a few other things.
Your next comment belies your ignorance of the law.No, that's not what that word means. The comment demonstrates or epitomizes his ignorance and belies oh let's see, truth, reality, stuff like that.
Elvis 2008
06-07-24, 17:47
Seriously dude, your arrogance knows no bounds. We all know how to use Google. You want to understand the 34 counts? Here is an explanation to help you understand..LOL. And you still cannot list even five of them. You guys keep going on about 34 counts and cannot even list what the crimes are.
Your next comment belies your ignorance of the law. It doesn't matter when the crime was discovered it is relevant when it was committed.Man, you cannot get anything right. Presidents have near total immunity on many, many matters so when it happens was huge. And the alleged "crime" was election interference but the expense only had to be reported after the election, so the whole concept of making a porn star payout as election interference is bogus.
You seem to think that Trump's employee who logged in legal expense and it being used as a porn star payout was illegal. The whole hush money payout, if it was illegal, was a misdemeanor at best. It had to be tied in with election interference to be a crime, and it did not interfere with the election because of the dates involved, and a hush money payout is not exclusive to an election, so once more, you cannot prove election interference.
And you seem to have missed the part where the FEC (Federal Elections Commission) looked into this case and did nothing. So they fucked up and 12 jurors who did not even have full access to all the information, including why the FEC did not even fine Trump, were right? From two witnesses everyone knows were lying their fucking asses off? How fucking stupid is that?
And now you seem to think you know more than the FEC too. You can't even list five of the 34 counts. We got Xpartan who is literally doing the mental masturbation thing where he swears there were Republicans on the jury. We got Tooms who says the jury did not even need to know beyond a reasonable doubt to convict, and the sad part of it all is you are all a bunch of mongers who are illegally banging or banged hookers in the USA. Oh, and jury composition does not matter. If you were charged with banging hookers in front of a bunch of fellow mongers versus a bunch of scorned housewives who were cheated on by a prosecutor saying he was going after mongers and was elected on that, it would not matter? Rule of law would prevail? Give me a fucking break.
But I cannot believe you guys even want to talk about it. The polls showed the conviction did nothing except put over $200 million in Trump's pocket which if you are a Democrat was stupid. It is also stupid that you are saying you are protecting Democracy while putting your opponent in jail over a bookkeeping entry.
But what else is new? Fauci just admitted that the 6 foot social distancing rule was not based on science. He admitted that the mandate with masks for children was not based on science. He also said the vaccines were not working at the same time they were being mandated. He admitted to all that. If the USA had travel bans, he would have been quizzed on that. Yet you still think they were great ideas. So you think everyone is on your side when in fact the "experts" you so cherish are not with you.
No, that's not what that word means. The comment demonstrates or epitomizes his ignorance and belies oh let's see, truth, reality, stuff like that.I accept that criticism. I should have said "underscores".
CheckMate1
06-07-24, 19:43
Seriously dude, your arrogance knows no bounds. We all know how to use Google. You want to understand the 34 counts? Here is an explanation to help you understand.
https://youtu.be/yRR6FYMs9zs?si=-snPaVq2PcOP01rg
Your next comment belies your ignorance of the law. It doesn't matter when the crime was discovered it is relevant when it was committed. Trump falsified business records in order to hide his payment to Stormy. That was the predicate act. Watch the video you might understand the whole process better. Maybe.
Agreeing with you Villainy
I love how outside of the courthouse, "people" present evidence, but inside the courtroom. Crickets
The only people who need to understand the 34 counts are the jurors, who happened to listen to 20+ witnesses, had documentary evidence presented to them, and they all agreed that the criminal defendant is GUILTY, of all counts. THE END, until appeal.
CheckMate1
06-07-24, 20:39
I do not understand why anyone continues to go down this path with this person.
MAGA Cult leader. DJT - Convicted of state crimes; indicted in Federal and State courts; found liable for defamation stemming from a sexual assault, almost $100 millions.
Followers:
Manafort. Convicted; prison / Pardon.
Guiliani. Loses law license; indicted in multiple states; loses defamation $ millions.
Jenna Ellis. Pleaded guilty in ATL; will lose law license.
Kracken. Loses law license; indicted ATL.
Roger Stone. Convicted; commuted sentence.
Bannon. Convicted; soon prison.
Peter Navarro. Convicted; prison.
Michael Cohen. Convicted; loses law license; prison.
Flynn. Pled guilty; pardon.
Rick Gates. Pled guilty.
Wisselberg. Pled guilty; prison.
Enrique Tarrio. Convicted; 18 years prison term.
Stewart Rhodes (Oath Keepers) - Convicted; 18 years prison term.
All the fake electors. Indicted in multiple states.
Other Insurrectionists. Indicted; most found guilty or pled guilty; prison or probation.
The list above is probably not exhaustive. And yet there are more following him down this path, still. Their gamble is that he becomes president and pardon them. Here's a thought, in your own life, how many people do you know have been convicted of any crime? And, if the convicted person says I have an idea, do you really want to run with it?
His ecosystem is filled with people who are either convicted or indicted.
Why continue to make excuses for him?
I do not understand why anyone continues to go down this path with this person.
MAGA Cult leader. DJT - Convicted of state crimes; indicted in Federal and State courts; found liable for defamation stemming from a sexual assault, almost $100 millions.
Followers:
Manafort. Convicted; prison / Pardon.
Guiliani. Loses law license; indicted in multiple states; loses defamation $ millions.
Jenna Ellis. Pleaded guilty in ATL; will lose law license.
Kracken. Loses law license; indicted ATL.
Roger Stone. Convicted; commuted sentence.
Bannon. Convicted; soon prison.
Peter Navarro. Convicted; prison.
Michael Cohen. Convicted; loses law license; prison.
Flynn. Pled guilty; pardon.
Rick Gates. Pled guilty.
Wisselberg. Pled guilty; prison.
Enrique Tarrio. Convicted; 18 years prison term.
Stewart Rhodes (Oath Keepers) - Convicted; 18 years prison term.
All the fake electors. Indicted in multiple states.
Other Insurrectionists. Indicted; most found guilty or pled guilty; prison or probation.
The list above is probably not exhaustive. And yet there are more following him down this path, still. Their gamble is that he becomes president and pardon them. Here's a thought, in your own life, how many people do you know have been convicted of any crime? And, if the convicted person says I have an idea, do you really want to run with it?
His ecosystem is filled with people who are either convicted or indicted.
Why continue to make excuses for him?We all know their current pat answer for all those guilty pleas and convictions for so many crooks, liars, thieves and con men circling the Trump toilet bowl: "Lawfare"! How else could evil Dems and enemies of Making America Great Again ruin the most perfect economic and national security policy and stewardship results the world has ever known? LOL. They are completely delusional about all of it.
Trump always had at least a tiny handful of spineless, overly forgiving supporters in any investigation or impeachment of his own outrageous criminality and traitorous words and actions to let him slide. Oh, he didn't really mean it, he is too stupid to commit this or that crime, hey, he hosted a sometimes funny game show where his only contribution was to read his script on a teleprompter, he's a harmless, lovable rogue, stop picking on the poor feller. LOL.
Which naturally allowed his cult supporters to mischaracterize all the earlier, overly generous allowances, deferential treatment given him as a potus, all the sliding and so on as "See? They tried everything and couldn't make anything stick! Russiagate! Everything's Rigged"!
So finally he found himself in a room with 12 ordinary Americans willing to look at the facts, the overwhelming evidence, witness testimony and documentation with no personal investment in him and his dumb sucker hillbilly Repub donation money on the line for them to let him slide again.
Meanwhile, an even greater level of delusion has been promoted and encouraged by his and his party's usual beloved pro Repub benefactors in Mainstream Media in order to continue the delusion that so much as a day during Trump's entire presidency was "better" on actual, provable, inarguable factors of the economy and national security or, more pertinent, because of Donald Trump vs the America of today under and most certainly thanks to Joe Biden:
Worse than inflation: Let's remember Trump's real record in office.
Anyone who looks back on the Trump years as a golden time when things were so much better isn't remembering reality.
June 7, 2024
https://www.salon.com/2024/06/07/worse-than-inflation-lets-remember-real-record-in-office/
Elvis 2008
06-08-24, 02:47
The fact of the conspirators' under oath and unchallenged testimony and the written, documented and unchallenged description of the scheme along with the unchallenged audio recording of the instigator, director and sole beneficiary of the schemeSolely Trump huh? If Stormy Daniels was not paid and did not benefit, then the case should be dismissed. If this case was not such bullshit, you should be able to explain it easily.
how he was going to pay all that money without the words "election / campaign expenses" being anywhere in it (do Wingers in the bubble even know that exists?) was all the jurors needed in order to convict him of those 34 Felonies.Nope. Totally wrong.
No additional conviction of the ultimate crime for which the Business Report Falsification was done in another trial is necessary under NY State LawThen that law is unconstitutional. The Sixth Amendment guarantees the right to know who your accusers are and the nature of the charges and evidence against you.
You still do not get what happened.
Solely Trump huh? If Stormy Daniels was not paid and did not benefit, then the case should be dismissed. If this case was not such bullshit, you should be able to explain it easily.
Nope. Totally wrong.
Then that law is unconstitutional. The Sixth Amendment guarantees the right to know who your accusers are and the nature of the charges and evidence against you.
You still do not get what happened.I knew it didn't matter which if any of the illegal reasons the jury chose to convict him of those 34 Felonies by the end of the prosecution's opening statement day.
Why or how couldn't Trump have known it?
Is all of this just part of Trump trying to swing his and his Crime Family's favorite criminal / civil litigation defense, that they are Too Stupid to commit the crime?
Weren't there several Wingers here championing this bogus book and movie helping to spread America-hating Trump's Big Lie as all anyone needs to read and see in order to be convinced that Biden stole the 2020 election as has now been proven in a court of law that Trump stole the 2016 election?
Dinesh DSouza election fraud film, book 2000 Mules pulled after defamation suit.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/31/dinesh-dsouza-election-film-2000-mules-pulled.html?__source=androidappshare
Former President Donald Trump, who lost to Biden, embraced 2000 Mules, screening the film at his Florida club Mar-a-Lago.
But since then, the claims made in the movie and the book, which was published by Salem Medias subsidiary Regnery Publishing, have been systematically debunked by journalists and law-enforcement officials.
Late last year, attorneys for True the Vote admitted in a Georgia court that they could not produce any documents to back up allegations about ballot stuffing in the 2020 presidential election in that state, which Biden won.And, no, none of us has to enumerate and fully explain each and every one of those 2000 wholly unsubstantiated claims for each and every one of those 2000 Mules in order to legitimately dismiss the entire book and movie as total America-hating crap.
As I am sure every America-hating Trumpian Winger would demand of us so they can sleep well at night knowing none of us did or had to.
Weren't there several Wingers here championing this bogus book and movie helping to spread America-hating Trump's Big Lie as all anyone needs to read and see in order to be convinced that Biden stole the 2020 election as has now been proven in a court of law that Trump stole the 2016 election?
Dinesh DSouza election fraud film, book 2000 Mules pulled after defamation suit.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/31/dinesh-dsouza-election-film-2000-mules-pulled.html?__source=androidappshare
And, no, none of us has to enumerate and fully explain each and every one of those 2000 wholly unsubstantiated claims for each and every one of those 2000 Mules in order to legitimately dismiss the entire book and movie as total America-hating crap..Actually, Trump's own AG Bill Barr stated that the Justice Department checked out all the allegations enumerated in DSouza's film "2000 Mules" and they found the claims to be without merit.
Elvis 2008
06-08-24, 15:47
I knew it didn't matter which if any of the illegal reasons the jury chose to convict him of those 34 Felonies by the end of the prosecution's opening statement day.Now that it appears to no longer matter. Here are the 34 charges: https://www.newsnationnow.com/trump-investigation/donald-trumps-34-criminal-charges/.
All of these charges occurred in 2017 and had a 2 year statue of limitations. There is five year statue if the falsification of business records was due to cover up or facilitate a crime. Given that there was no proof of any of the three crimes laid out and they were not announced until closing arguments, the crimes could have been paying for murder, kidnapping, or assault. And the jury was instructed if 4 of you think he paid for murder, 4 of you think he paid for kidnapping, and 4 of you think he paid for assault, that is okay, you can and should still find him guilty. At worst, this was a misdemeanor repeated 34 times but one where the statue of limitations had run out.
The key part of this case was Cohen. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-charges-conviction-guilty-verdict/
Cohen was the only witness who testified that Trump knew about the true purpose of the reimbursements, a crucial pillar of prosecutors' effort to show Trump's intent.
Anyone in the monger world knows or should know that there is gray in the law. You can pay for dinner or for time or buy a gift but you cannot pay directly for sex. Thing about the law is it very hard to get a conviction if you went to a lawyer and he told you something was okay. So to convict Trump you have to believe he was the mastermind and Cohen was the innocent victim who knew it was illegal and stupidly went along for the ride. Give me a break.
It is way more likely Cohen put this payment in the gray area of the law and if the FEC looked at it, they would do nothing, and that is exactly what happened.
But if you want to talk stupid, look at the next post.
Elvis 2008
06-08-24, 16:41
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mistrial-trump-hush-money-judge-suggests-juror-may-have-had-predetermined-guilty-verdict
So the NY Supreme Court has a website and someone wrote: Thank for all the hard against the MAGA crazies! My cousin is a juror on Trump's criminal case and they are going to convict him tomorrow according to her. Thank you New York Courts!!
This looked like one of Spidy's dumb posts, and at first glance, it should be taken as seriously as one of Spidy's posts. However, this comprised hack of a judge has taken it seriously and sent a letter to both sides yesterday suggesting this poster was legitimate. A woman on Twitter identified herself as a defense lawyer and said there is no doubt in her mind that this means mistrial.
The only people who need to understand the 34 counts are the jurors, who happened to listen to 20+ witnesses, had documentary evidence presented to them, and they all agreed that the criminal defendant is GUILTY, of all counts. THE END, until appeal.Just like Tooms had Trump guilty before the case was even presented, it appears now that the jurors were in the same boat.
And you kind of missed something else. There was the public as a whole. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-has-raised-400-million-one-week.
On May 30th, Donald Trump was found guilty on 34 counts of. Falsifying records of something, no one really quite knows what. A week later on June 6th, Trump announced that he has raised $400 MILLION since the verdict.
The sixth amendment says that citizens have a right to a jury of their peers at trial, and the typical Democratic douche excuse for this $400 million is the people giving it are stupid, but there is no intelligence requirements on one's peers. If you are a judge and someone is convicted in your court room, and that person gets $400 million in donations in the one week following the verdict, you fucked up.
So the net effect of this fiasco is Democrats have completely shattered whatever faith Americans had in the justice system and Trump walks free with $400 million in hand. Way to go Democrats!
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mistrial-trump-hush-money-judge-suggests-juror-may-have-had-predetermined-guilty-verdict
So the NY Supreme Court has a website and someone wrote: Thank for all the hard against the MAGA crazies! My cousin is a juror on Trump's criminal case and they are going to convict him tomorrow according to her. Thank you New York Courts!!
This looked likeThis sounds just like a typical provocation straight out of the Trump / Putin Joint Disinformation Manual.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mistrial-trump-hush-money-judge-suggests-juror-may-have-had-predetermined-guilty-verdict
So the NY Supreme Court has a website and someone wrote: Thank for all the hard against the MAGA crazies! My cousin is a juror on Trump's criminal case and they are going to convict him tomorrow according to her. Thank you New York Courts!!
This looked like one of Spidy's dumb posts, and at first glance, it should be taken as seriously as one of Spidy's posts. However, this comprised hack of a judge has taken it seriously and sent a letter to both sides yesterday suggesting this poster was legitimate. A woman on Twitter identified herself as a defense lawyer and said there is no doubt in her mind that this means mistrial.
Just like Tooms had Trump guilty before the case was even presented, it appears now that the jurors were in the same boat.
And you kind of missed something else. There was the public as a whole. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-has-raised-400-million-one-week.
On May 30th, Donald Trump was found guilty on 34 counts of. Falsifying records of something, no one really quite knows what. A week later on June 6th, Trump announced that he has raised $400 MILLION since the verdict.
The sixth amendment says that citizens have a right to a jury of their peers at trial, and the typical Democratic douche excuse for this $400 million is the people giving it are stupid, but there is no intelligence requirements on one's peers. If you are a judge and someone is convicted in your court room, and that person gets $400 million in donations in the one week following the verdict, you fucked up.
So the net effect of this fiasco is Democrats have completely shattered whatever faith Americans had in the justice system and Trump walks free with $400 million in hand. Way to go Democrats!Sure. Trump never understood nor knew nor asked what the Election Fraud purpose was in the Trump Org Conspiracy To Steal The 2016 Election when he authorized those payments to Cohen.
All 34 times.
Brilliant, hands-on businessman.
Was he already suffering from the now blatantly obvious serious cognitive impairment he exhibits at every public appearance back then? That should have been the central defense argument; "Not only would he have been too stupid to commit this crime even at his most cognitively competent state back in the early 1980's, but now can't identify his own wife in a photo and thinks WWII has not happened yet".
That jury as well as any jury anywhere would have produced a unanimous 34 count acquittal after only 10 minutes of deliberation with 9 of them spent checking the boxes on the form.
Even the obviously pro Trump-biased lady in Villainy's otherwise very good overview of the case and trial linked video did not once mention a potential problem with the Statute of Limitations on any count or factor in the case. And she was really looking hard for anything that could be used on appeal or to overturn it.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mistrial-trump-hush-money-judge-suggests-juror-may-have-had-predetermined-guilty-verdict
So the NY Supreme Court has a website and someone wrote: Thank for all the hard against the MAGA crazies! My cousin is a juror on Trump's criminal case and they are going to convict him tomorrow according to her. Thank you New York Courts!!
This looked like one of Spidy's dumb posts, and at first glance, it should be taken as seriously as one of Spidy's posts. However, this comprised hack of a judge has taken it seriously and sent a letter to both sides yesterday suggesting this poster was legitimate. A woman on Twitter identified herself as a defense lawyer and said there is no doubt in her mind that this means mistrial.
Just like Tooms had Trump guilty before the case was even presented, it appears now that the jurors were in the same boat.
And you kind of missed something else. There was the public as a whole. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-has-raised-400-million-one-week.
(...kkkk!) Elvis 2008, pure utter rubbish, as usual! Way to suck the life out of common sense, thinking!
Our resident INCEL consipiracist, continues to out do himself and trot-out the utter rubbish and twitter nonsense as "proof" and "evidence" of facts, with zero journalistic integrity from the shit he finds, reads and believes. The gullible idiots, propagating the lies and pretexts from the Twitter (and Russian) slave masters of chaos and disinformation, is only evidence that idiots can be very useful.
But by all means continue to post your absurdity about CONVICT Trump's innocence...I do enjoy a good laugh! Your conspiracy fantasies and flights fancy are VERY ENTERTAINING!
BTW, I can't wait, but when's your next episode of "Paycheck Superhero", due out?
So the net effect of this fiasco is Democrats have completely shattered whatever faith Americans had in the justice system and Trump walks free with $400 million in hand. Way to go Democrats!
(...kkkk!) Repubs did that long ago and time and time again, after the many failed presidencies and economies. As for back as crooked Nixion! Trump is just the most recent incarnation of the corrupt and crooked Repub Reich.
Yeah, the Repub Reich, talk a good talk, about the Rule of Law, but ONLY when it doesn't apply them! But there are ALWAYS consequences!
Elvis 2008, here you are whining again, when you should be looking at the bright side of things? You see, while the Dems, do indeed get their GUILTY felon and criminal conviction, the Trumpster, gets to siphon another $400 Million from gullible Repubs. (...kkkk!) Sounds like a WIN-WIN to me!
Hey, maybe Trumpster should reconsider his stalling tactics on his other trials? Just think of how much more he could siphon from gullible Repubs, with a GUILTY verdict from those trials? (...kkkk!)
Just think, of all the episodes of "Paycheck Superhero", you could write, if Trump was also found GUILTY, in the other trials he's been dodging. Where you could regale, pontificate and entertain, us Dems, with all your fantastic tales of how you had to wait 10-hours on the phone, to donate to Trump, because lines were busy with all the other gullible donors...kkkk!
Personally, I can wait for such heroic tales!
Elvis 2008
06-09-24, 16:44
That jury as well as any jury anywhere would have produced a unanimous 34 count acquittal after only 10 minutes of deliberation with 9 of them spent checking the boxes on the form.When you mean anywhere, you mean anywhere that is solidly blue. You douches like to point out that rule of law schtick, but the rule of law is if someone is caught lying under oath, you strike everything that person said, and in this case, even the left wingers were saying he was full of shit. If there is no Cohen, there is no case. If this case were prosecuted in upstate New York, which is red, Trump walks.
Speaking of which, the Democratic Department of Justice is prosecuting Hunter Biden for the least important part of what was found on his laptop, his drug use, and his lying on a gun application to get a gun. Unlike with Trump, when the star witness was in jail, this time the star witness is Hunter Biden himself and what he wrote and is on video. It is as open and shut a case as it gets. If anyone else had been charged with this, there would have been a plea deal offered up and anyone who not in the family of a high ranking Democrat would have taken it. The defense has been left with defining what an addict is. Yes, it is the Clinton what is your definition of is is all over again.
Anyway, there is a lawyer on youtube who got most everything right in the Trump case predicting that Hunter Biden would be acquitted despite the fact that everyone admits all the evidence is against him. His rationale is Jill Biden is flying back from France daily and spending time in the court room to intimidate the jury. I was not sold on that until I heard where the venue is. Guess where? It is in Delaware and I openly guffawed. And then I was like, yeah, Hunter is going to walk. No doubt.
Masterful. Thanks, Joe. You flipped Trump's Pandemic Inflation and Putin's idiotic War into a Big WIN for America and its energy future!
It Turns Out President Biden Is A Genius Oil Trader.
Who knew Scranton Joe found a way to break OPEC, earn $582 million in profits for the U.S. Treasury, stabilize oil prices and help the green market?
https://crooksandliars.com/2024/06/it-turns-out-president-biden-genius-oil
A Must Watch 8 minute video:
How Joe Biden rewrote the rules for oil trading and broke OPEC!
When you mean anywhere, you mean anywhere that is solidly blue. You douches like to point out that rule of law schtick, but the rule of law is if someone is caught lying under oath, you strike everything that person said, and in this case, even the left wingers were saying he was full of shit. If there is no Cohen, there is no case. If this case were prosecuted in upstate New York, which is red, Trump walks.
Speaking of which, the Democratic Department of Justice is prosecuting Hunter Biden for the least important part of what was found on his laptop, his drug use, and his lying on a gun application to get a gun. Unlike with Trump, when the star witness was in jail, this time the star witness is Hunter Biden himself and what he wrote and is on video. It is as open and shut a case as it gets. If anyone else had been charged with this, there would have been a plea deal offered up and anyone who not in the family of a high ranking Democrat would have taken it. The defense has been left with defining what an addict is. Yes, it is the Clinton what is your definition of is is all over again.
Anyway, there is a lawyer on youtube who got most everything right in the Trump case predicting that Hunter Biden would be acquitted despite the fact that everyone admits all the evidence is against him. His rationale is Jill Biden is flying back from France daily and spending time in the court room to intimidate the jury. I was not sold on that until I heard where the venue is. Guess where? It is in Delaware and I openly guffawed. And then I was like, yeah, Hunter is going to walk. No doubt.No, I meant any jury anywhere would have acquitted Trump on the basis of him being too stupid or too cognitively impaired or too insane (the jury can pick 1-3) if his argument had been he didn't understand, know or even bother to ask why he was signing off on 34 Over Payments to the 2nd in command of the Trump Org Election Fraud Conspiracy To Steal The 2016 Election.
You know, his defence team could have and should have presented the evidence of him mistaking a photo of his $85 Million sexual assault / rape victim for his wife, claiming WWII hadn't happened yet, that he is actually dead today since he only "nearly escaped death" several months ago when he was 1100 miles away from the house the FBI searched, etc.
Sorry, but a trial by a jury of your peers is generally conducted where the alleged crime was committed. That is why Trump should be pulling these big money fraud and election interference crimes in Oklahoma, Kansas, South Dakota or wherever he can find folks like Aunt Bea and Barney Fife to con and make sure there would no smarty pants blue-staters in a jury.
Of course, that would require him and Melania to hang out in red states and interact with the people who are bussed from Trump Rally to Trump Rally and vote for him. LOL. No chance they'll want to endure that for very long unless they can hide out in a fortress like Mar-a-Lardo in Florida.
Elvis 2008
06-09-24, 23:06
Our resident consipiracist, continues to out do himself and trot-out the utter rubbish and twitter nonsense as "proof" and "evidence" of facts, with zero journalistic integrity from the shit he finds, reads and believes. The gullible idiots, propagating the lies and pretexts from the Twitter (and Russian) slave masters of chaos and disinformation, is only evidence that idiots can be very useful.
Yeah, that was a hell of a conspiracy on my part. A rigged court found Trump guilty, pissed off Republicans, and did not make a dent in the polls. Meanwhile, your dumb douche ass has been pounding sand on all the irrelevant nonsense. 91 indictments! Twice Impeached! 34 counts! And all you did was net Trump nearly half a billion.
Obviously, you cannot only read the lea leaves; you think the plant is coffee. So only the usual "disinformation" outlets covered the judge's letter: zero hedge, Newsmax, and Twitter. What does that mean? Well, you and the douches think it is nothing / disinformation as usual. Have you noticed there has been none of this "convicted felon" talk in the media? Oh yeah, there was the usual comedy routines on Kimmel and Colbert the night of but after that it has been crickets. No one on our side finds this shit funny. It was a disgusting, gutless act. Who has been prosecuted for what Trump did before? Oh right. No one. When you say you follow rule of law, that does not mean you make up rules as you go along.
And now the next big issue is the sentencing. If the judge rules Trump should be in jail, Trump will be hitting the $1 billion mark in donations, and this so called judge will have to be staying in blue country the rest of his life. So how comes this letter comes now? Especially when the post was made before the jury went into deliberation? And why a cousin? Maybe because I cannot identify my second and third cousins. They could be anyone.
Like I said that post was as dumb as the posts you make, but it was taken seriously enough for the judge to write a letter. Why? Again, you douches are so focused on your "victory" you do not see what comes next. And why from the Supreme Court which is the next court where Trump would head? IMO it is a message from that court. Keep us the fuck out of this circus. Let the case fester in the media a few weeks and then get rid of it or we will.
So this holier than thou jury which were made up of people like you and Tooms will be smacked down. This judge will say he cannot in good conscience let this verdict go on given jury misconduct and declare a mistrial. Bad, bad jury. And this verdict just like Russiagate, Ukrainegate ETC will be put in the never mind pile. Russiagate? Never mind. The irony is that the judge does not even have to prove this is true. He can make this decision totally on his own without proof. Just the NY Supreme Court sending it was proof enough.
A jail sentence would be the best thing for Trump and a mistrial would be the worst. Now, you douches can be shocked, shocked that the jury was rigged, and the justice system is saved.
FWIW, I hope the prediction is wrong. This trial brought Republicans together like nothing else.
Masterful. Thanks, Joe. You flipped Trump's Pandemic Inflation and Putin's idiotic War into a Big WIN for America and its energy future!
It Turns Out President Biden Is A Genius Oil Trader.
Who knew Scranton Joe found a way to break OPEC, earn $582 million in profits for the U.S. Treasury, stabilize oil prices and help the green market?
https://crooksandliars.com/2024/06/it-turns-out-president-biden-genius-oil
A Must Watch 8 minute video:
How Joe Biden rewrote the rules for oil trading and broke OPEC! Excellent video and watch, w/r to how President Joe Biden is playing chess to his predecessor's playing checkers.
Another great reason why Joe Biden should be President in Nov 2024, from a President who actually makes deals for the country and Americans, instead of for himself and/or his mob crime family.
Well Done JOE!
Excellent video and watch, w/r to how President Joe Biden is playing chess to his predecessor's playing checkers.
Another great reason why Joe Biden should be President in Nov 2024, from a President who actually makes deals for the country and Americans, instead of for himself and/or his mob crime family.
Well Done JOE!Repubs think the solution to every challenge facing a complex national economy like the USA is to give disproportionately high tax cuts to their political donor class in the top income margins, abolish or ignore regulations and then just go fishing. Or golfing. Or pony riding. Or golfing again. Or clearing brush down at the ranch. Or golfing and golfing and golfing again.
They have been doing that for 100 years. And, no surprise, they have produced and presided over every single Great Depression, Great Recession, Massive Jobs Destruction and Historic Stock Market Decline for those same 100 years and none of the Historic Recoveries, Expansions, Jobs Creation or Stock Market Gains.
Of course the Repubs' "Cut taxes, forget about regulations and we all get to be rich Deadbeats" would be a more popular Economic Policy than the kind of real work, knowledge, wisdom and experience it takes to avoid producing and presiding over any historic downturn, massive jobs destruction and disaster of the past 100 years, not one, and produce every historic positive opposite of those results instead, as Dem presidents have done.
The polls tell us so.
However, I much prefer to consider actual results shown time and time again over the course of 100 years rather than how pleasant an Economic Policy sounds.
Yeah, that was a hell of a conspiracy on my part. A rigged court found Trump guilty, pissed off Republicans, and did not make a dent in the polls. Meanwhile, your dumb douche ass has been pounding sand on all the irrelevant nonsense. 91 indictments! Twice Impeached! 34 counts! And all you did was net Trump nearly half a billion.
Obviously, you cannot only read the lea leaves; you think the plant is coffee. So only the usual "disinformation" outlets covered the judge's letter: zero hedge, Newsmax, and Twitter. What does that mean? Well, you and the douches think it is nothing / disinformation as usual. Have you noticed there has been none of this "convicted felon" talk in the media? Oh yeah, there was the usual comedy routines on Kimmel and Colbert the night of but after that it has been crickets. No one on our side finds this shit funny. It was a disgusting, gutless act. Who has been prosecuted for what Trump did before? Oh right. No one. When you say you follow rule of law, that does not mean you make up rules as you go along.
And now the next big issue is the sentencing. If the judge rules Trump should be in jail, Trump will be hitting the $1 billion mark in donations, and this so called judge will have to be staying in blue country the rest of his life. So how comes this letter comes now? Especially when the post was made before the jury went into deliberation? And why a cousin? Maybe because I cannot identify my second and third cousins. They could be anyone.
Like I said that post was as dumb as the posts you make, but it was taken seriously enough for the judge to write a letter. Why? Again, you douches are so focused on your "victory" you do not see what comes next. And why from the Supreme Court which is the next court where Trump would head? IMO it is a message from that court. Keep us the fuck out of this circus. Let the case fester in the media a few weeks and then get rid of it or we will.
So this holier than thou jury which were made up of people like you and Tooms will be smacked down. This judge will say he cannot in good conscience let this verdict go on given jury misconduct and declare a mistrial. Bad, bad jury. And this verdict just like Russiagate, Ukrainegate ETC will be put in the never mind pile. Russiagate? Never mind. The irony is that the judge does not even have to prove this is true. He can make this decision totally on his own without proof. Just the NY Supreme Court sending it was proof enough.
A jail sentence would be the best thing for Trump and a mistrial would be the worst. Now, you douches can be shocked, shocked that the jury was rigged, and the justice system is saved.
FWIW, I hope the prediction is wrong. This trial brought Republicans together like nothing else.Why would anyone expect Trump's Cult Followers to refrain from lavishing him with love in the polls or at the ballot box for being a convicted criminal, s Felon 34 times over, and for committing Election Fraud in order to steal the 2016 election? That has been their entire agenda right up to and beyond their violent, cop-attacking, cop-killing Insurrection on January 6, 2021. LOL.
No, Biden closing the gap in the polls vs Trump in the only 3 Battleground States that matter according to the months long unchanged RCP No Toss Up States EC Map and will move the score to 270 ECs for Biden has been happening since Biden's terrific State of the Union Address and since he has been appearing and campaigning in those states.
See, Biden benefits from showing up and being seen and heard. Trump suffers from that. Which is why I have always recognized the past Facebook and Twitter bans on Trump as little more than those CEOs helping him win polls and possibly elections. Same with him sleeping through his trial for a few days per week and any gag order that sticks. It only helps Americans forget what an addlebrained loon he is.
Meanwhile, this is the virtual tie in all three of the only Battleground States that matter and that Biden needs to flip a tiny Trump advantage over the next 4 months, continuing his post-SOTU Address positive trend as shown in the RCP and 538 Consensus of Polls on those states:
RCP Consensus.
WI = +0. 1 Trump.
MI = +0. 3 Trump.
PA = +2. 3 Trump.
538 Consensus.
WI = +0. 8 Trump.
MI = +0. 4 Trump.
PA = +1. 4 Trump.
Those are tiny and still shrinking advantages, easy to flip at any time but most especially if you have a behemoth Get Out The Vote / Ground Game presense in those states, as Biden does, vs zero ground game in those states, as Trump has.
Really, all things considered, Biden could easily win those 270 EC Votes and the election if it were held tomorrow. It's been that way for several weeks already.
MarquisdeSade1
06-11-24, 02:49
Why would anyone expect Trump's Cult Followers to refrain from lavishing him with love in the polls or at the ballot box for being a convicted criminal, s Felon 34 times over, and for committing Election Fraud in order to steal the 2016 election? That has been their entire agenda right up to and beyond their violent, cop-attacking, cop-killing Insurrection on January 6, 2021. LOL.
No, Biden closing the gap in the polls vs Trump in the only 3 Battleground States that matter according to the months long unchanged RCP No Toss Up States EC Map and will move the score to 270 ECs for Biden has been happening since Biden's terrific State of the Union Address and since he has been appearing and campaigning in those states.
See, Biden benefits from showing up and being seen and heard. Trump suffers from that. Which is why I have always recognized the past Facebook and Twitter bans on Trump as little more than those CEOs helping him win polls and possibly elections. Same with him sleeping through his trial for a few days per week and any gag order that sticks. It only helps Americans forget what an addlebrained loon he is.
Meanwhile, this is the virtual tie in all three of the only Battleground States that matter and that Biden needs to flip a tiny Trump advantage over the next 4 months, continuing his post-SOTU Address positive trend as shown in the RCP and 538 Consensus of Polls on those states:
RCP Consensus.
WI = +0. 1 Trump.
MI = +0. 3 Trump.
PA = +2. 3 Trump.
538 Consensus.
WI = +0. 8 Trump.
MI = +0. 4 Trump.
PA = +1. 4 Trump.
Those are tiny and still shrinking advantages, easy to flip at any time but most especially if you have a behemoth Get Out The Vote / Ground Game presense in those states, as Biden does, vs zero ground game in those states, as Trump has.
Really, all things considered, Biden could easily win those 270 EC Votes and the election if it were held tomorrow. It's been that way for several weeks already.https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/joe-biden-approval-538/2024/06/10/id/1168177/
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/joe-biden-approval-538/2024/06/10/id/1168177/I see Joe's post-SOTU Address momentum toward closing the already tiny and easily surmountable gap between him and Trump to capture the 270 EC votes needed to win a 2nd term has tightened since yesterday.
Note the improvement for Biden in all three of the only battlegound states he needs to flip in the 538 Consensus Polls below:
RCP Consensus.
WI = +0. 1 Trump.
MI = +0. 3 Trump.
PA = +2. 3 Trump.
538 Consensus.
WI = +0. 7 Trump.
MI = +0. 3 Trump.
PA = +1. 3 Trump.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/michigan/
Interesting that demonstrably Winger-leaning RCP has been sitting on those particular Consensus Polls figures for a very, very long time, especially that 2. 3 point advantage for Trump in PA. LOL. If RCP is behaving as usual, they are holding back a few PA and perhaps other polls that show Biden tightening if not outright overcoming and exceeding those already tiny gaps until another Rasmussen, Emerson or Harris poll showing Trump with a lead in those states comes along to Save The Day! LOL.
Well, no matter. Even with the numbers as they are shown on RCP right now, Biden's serious Get Out The Vote / Ground Game vs Trump's zero ground game other than apparently to sink to the bottom of the sea on a boat with a very heavy battery rather than get your leg bitten off by a shark all but guarantees a Biden win if the election were held tomorrow.
Was it you Elvis?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/mistrial-trump-hush-money-judge-suggests-juror-may-have-had-predetermined-guilty-verdict
So the NY Supreme Court has a website and someone wrote: Thank for all the hard against the MAGA crazies! My cousin is a juror on Trump's criminal case and they are going to convict him
tomorrow according to her. Thank you New York Courts!!
This sounds just like a typical provocation straight out of the Trump / Putin Joint Disinformation Manual.
Xpartan, that was a good idea to just ask, Elvis 2008. It appears the GUILT was just too much to bear! (...kkkk!)
Yeah, that was a hell of a conspiracy on my part.
Good for you Elvis 2008, I guess it is true what they say...CONFESSION is good for the soul! And the truth shall set you free! (...kkkk!)
No, Biden closing the gap in the polls vs Trump in the only 3 Battleground States that matter according to the months long unchanged RCP No Toss Up States EC Map and will move the score to 270 ECs for Biden has been happening since Biden's terrific State of the Union Address and since he has been appearing and campaigning in those states. ...
RCP Consensus.
WI = +0. 1 Trump.
MI = +0. 3 Trump.
PA = +2. 3 Trump.
538 Consensus.
WI = +0. 8 Trump.
MI = +0. 4 Trump.
PA = +1. 4 Trump.
Those are tiny and still shrinking advantages, easy to flip at any time but most especially if you have a behemoth Get Out The Vote / Ground Game presense in those states, as Biden does, vs zero ground game in those states, as Trump has.
Really, all things considered, Biden could easily win those 270 EC Votes and the election if it were held tomorrow. It's been that way for several weeks already. President Biden, now also has the majority support among INDEPENDENTS, yet another important voting base, in many of those swing states, since citizen Trump is convict and criminal Trump.
Majority of independents and 'double haters' think Trump should end 2024 campaign: POLL
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/majority-independents-double-haters-trump-end-2024-campaign/story?id=110778206
"Double haters"
Former President Donald Trump's guilty verdict on all 34 counts in his hush-money trial appears to have a majority of independents and "double haters," those who have an unfavorable view of both Trump and President Joe Biden, feeling that the former president should end his bid for the White House, according to a recent ABC News/Ipsos poll -- a number that could have a ripple effect on the election in November.
So if you believe in the POLLS, Biden is definitely the stronger and winning candidate for the 2024 Election, among independents.
Fuck, if I know!
But the demented, deranged and drooling wack-job that is Trump, will tell ya, if you care to listen? (...kkkk!)
Trump Reveals He'd Rather Die by Electrocution Than by Shark
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2024/06/trump-reveals-hed-rather-die-by-electrocution-than-by-shark.html
Is convict Trump, surely breaking from the pressures of going to jail?
It appears even an additional $400 million, can't help a crazed lunatic!
PS: I hear the video is even just as CRINGY!
Elvis 2008
06-11-24, 15:27
Masterful. Thanks, Joe. You flipped Trump's Pandemic Inflation and Putin's idiotic War into a Big WIN for America and its energy future!
It Turns Out President Biden Is A Genius Oil Trader.
Who knew Scranton Joe found a way to break OPEC, earn $582 million in profits for the U.S. Treasury, stabilize oil prices and help the green market?You mean less than 1% of what Joe wasted in Ukraine.
And wasn't another of Biden's goals to take Russian oil off the market?
Russia's budget revenues from oil and gas soared by 73.5% in January-May of 2024 compared to the first five months of 2023, according to data from Russia's finance ministry released on Monday. Between January and May 2024, the revenues for the Russian federal budget from oil and gas hit $55.7 billion (4. 95 trillion Russian rubles), per the data reported by Russian news agency TASS.
And if we are spending so much to fight Russia in Ukraine so it cannot take over Europe, why are Europeans still buying Russian gas?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/european-leaders-might-renew-contract-keep-russia-ukraine-gas-pipeline-flowing-despite
Bloomberg reported Monday that European officials are currently discussing plans to keep the gas flowing through a key Russia-Ukraine pipeline, and that Ukraine. Which has hit desperation given its dire wartime energy needs and situation. Favors it.
How Joe Biden rewrote the rules for oil trading and broke OPEC!Senile Joe did not break OPEC. He helped Russia after trying to break it! And the only people doing anything constructive on cheap energy are the American oil and gas companies Biden wanted to tax the shit out of. When gasoline prices were hurting him in the polls, Biden begged the Saudis for more oil and they told him to fuck off. He then went to Venezuela and after he learned they could do nothing, finally quit fucking with American oil companies.
You are in essence cheering on Biden for using the emergency oil reserves to make money by gambling. That is not what the oil reserve is there for.
And how is this helping green energy? If this is the best Biden can do, he has already lost.
Elvis 2008
06-11-24, 16:16
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/05/congress-ev-chargers-billions-00129996#text=Congress%20 at%20 the%20 urging%20 of, to%20 install%20 a%20 single%20 charger.
Congress at the urging of the Biden administration agreed in 2021 to spend $7. 5 billion to build tens of thousands of electric vehicle chargers across the country, aiming to appease anxious drivers while tackling climate change.
Two years later, the program has yet to install a single charger.
But Biden made half a billion on oil trading!
As to why we have electric cars, there was this from the same authors of getting us under the Covid curve, https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2022/08/electrifying-transportation-reduces-emissions-and-saves-massive-amounts-of-energy/.
Modern gasoline-powered vehicles waste a whopping 80% of the energy in their fuel. In all, the various energy losses in an EV add up to 31% to 35%. Regenerative braking adds 22% back into the system, making the overall efficiency around 87% to 91%.
Even if the grid were entirely fueled by coal, 31% less energy would be needed to charge EVs than to fuel gasoline cars.
Build more coal plants? You cannot make this shit up.
Of course, this all misses the point. I rented a car and they gave me an EV. Thing is I had no fucking clue how to recharge it and how long it would take. I was in this area for 48 hours and did not want to spend 10 hours on recharging it. I turned the car in half full and waited for the bill and was happy to see that if it was above 20% I would not be charged extra. The car was not bad. It drove like a golf cart, but it underscores the point with EVs, the problem with them is time.
Even Elon Musk said that his "superchargers" take an hour to charge a vehicle. "You know when you are talking a long trip, you just pull in and get some food and coffee while you charge up. ".
And who wants to do that?
And Trump has pounced on this. "They say the happiest day when you buy an electric car is the first 10 minutes you're driving it, and then after that, panic sets in because you're worried, 'Where the hell am I going to get a charge to keep this thing going? Trump said at a September rally with autoworkers in Michigan.
https://mishtalk.com/economics/ford-loses-132000-on-each-ev-produced-good-news-ev-sales-down-20-percent
Ford Loses $132,000 on Each EV Produced, Good News, EV Sales Down 20 Percent.
These losses are despite huge tax incentives and subsidies. Ford is more dependent on truck buyers than GM, and truck buyers have shown little interest in electric trucks.
On April 15, Elon Musk Fires 10 Percent of Tesla Workforce, Prepares for "Next Phase of Growth".
In preparation for more growth, Musk issues a memo announcing an workforce cut of 10 percent and two top Tesla (TSLA) executives resign.
So no chargers built, EVs losing money like crazy, Tesla laying off 10% of its workforce, Chinese EVs literally sitting empty in parking lots because no one wants to buy them, and the tax payer on the hook for subsidies for building EVs that few want.
But, but, but EVs are more efficient. We just need to build more coal plants.
Ah yes, the Biden energy plan is such a success. Thanks Joe!
You mean less than 1% of what Joe wasted in Ukraine.
And wasn't another of Biden's goals to take Russian oil off the market?
Russia's budget revenues from oil and gas soared by 73.5% in January-May of 2024 compared to the first five months of 2023, according to data from Russia's finance ministry released on Monday. Between January and May 2024, the revenues for the Russian federal budget from oil and gas hit $55.7 billion (4. 95 trillion Russian rubles), per the data reported by Russian news agency TASS.
And if we are spending so much to fight Russia in Ukraine so it cannot take over Europe, why are Europeans still buying Russian gas?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/european-leaders-might-renew-contract-keep-russia-ukraine-gas-pipeline-flowing-despite
Bloomberg reported Monday that European officials are currently discussing plans to keep the gas flowing through a key Russia-Ukraine pipeline, and that Ukraine. Which has hit desperation given its dire wartime energy needs and situation. Favors it.
Senile Joe did not break OPEC. He helped Russia after trying to break it! And the only people doing anything constructive on cheap energy are the American oil and gas companies Biden wanted to tax the shit out of. When gasoline prices were hurting him in the polls, Biden begged the Saudis for more oil and they told him to fuck off. He then went to Venezuela and after he learned they could do nothing, finally quit fucking with American oil companies.
You are in essence cheering on Biden for using the emergency oil reserves to make money by gambling. That is not what the oil reserve is there for.
And how is this helping green energy? If this is the best Biden can do, he has already lost.The average price of a gallon of regular gas in the USA today is $3. 44 and has been steadily declining for more than a year:
https://gasprices.aaa.com/
In 2019, the last of Trump's well below average economic years that he was already skyrocketing the deficit to "buy" pre-Trump's Pandemic, a truly historic debacle, the cost rose to $2. 90.
Yeah, that's 54 cents more per gallon.
The good news is today the USA has more and better paying jobs abundantly available, no Recession in the Manufacturing and Agricultural sectors due to Trump's failed trade war so severe that emergency welfare checks have to be issued just to keep them afloat, there was no Bear Market Decline last year as there was in 2018, Biden is not, repeat not, defunding and removing any Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention teams from any labs in China or anywhere else, the USA Military is involved in exactly zero Wars anywhere on the planet and have not been for 3 years and our President today is not publicly siding with and blowing Putin, Xi or any other enemy of America at every opportunity.
America is a million times better off today than it was 4 years ago, 5 years ago, 6 years ago and 7 years ago.
Despite the House Repub clown show, that is led by MTG's continual Russian puppeting, and who leads the charge to disband from NATO, President Joe Biden, is firm in the belief, that the combined strength of NATO is the key to Ukraine defeating Putin.
So Does the Russia's penultimate most "useful idiot", Moscow Marjorie (aka.Capital Hill Karen, aka.Cruella DeVil on the Hill), even know what the word "ally" means? Or are dictionaries also being banned in Georgia?
Since NATO was formed and founded, it is the most successful defense pack in history of the world. In 75 years we've only invoked Article 5, 'The Defense of One, is the Defense of All', has ONLY been invoked ONCE...for the U.S.A. And that was after 911, where our NATO allies came to our defense.
63 House Republicans voted against a non-binding, bipartisan resolution...
https://www.politico.com/minutes/congress/04-6-2022/nato-vote/
So while Russia's "useful idiots", Trump, Moscow Marjorie and 63 Repubs, try to bring down NATO, it is only one of dozens chaotic and anarchist efforts from their "Project 2025" list of subversive anti-American doctrines to overthrow the Rule of Law and democratic governance, with its anti-democracy, anti-constitutional, anti-human-rights and anti-equal rights, fascist tyrannical dictatorship policies.
Project 2025 Subversive Doctrine, if Trump is elected in 2024 (Note: This is just a short list)
• Mass layoffs of civil servants || End Birthright Citizenship
• Install Trump loyalists || 10% Tarrif on foreign goods
• Terminate Constitution || No "two-state" solution
• Investigate political advisors || Withdraw from NATO
• Mass deportations || Punish Hospital that provide any transgender care
• Bomb Mexico || National ban on abortion, women's care, trans care minors
• Shoot Migrants || Gut the green energy programs
• Electrify Wall || Exit the Paris Climate Accords
• Reinstate and expand ban of people from Muslim-majority countries || Gut the EPA Increase the use of fossil fuels & discard EVs
• Impose "ideological screening", for immigrants || Enforce the Comstock Act to ban abortion nationwide
• Revoke student visas for ceasefire protesters || Allow states to punish women as they see fit
• Terminate the Dept. of Education || Immunity to all police officers
• Teach "patriotic education" || Require "stop & frisk"
• Shoot shoplifters [b] || Billionaires go free stealing billions, exempt from prosecution
• Mass tent camps for homeless people || Federal takeovers of Democratic cities including D.C., Chicago and New York
• Re-institutionalize the mentally ill || Deploy national guard to protests
Repubs, would love nothing more than, to turn-back the clock and have us go back to the "good old days" of 100+ years of burning fossil fuels, while poking fun and political jabs, at the advances, ebbs and flows of a viable burgeoning clean energy industry, that is relatively speaking only in its infancy, but nonetheless making huge strides.
Let's not forget the technological advances from the past 100+ years of oil, gas, coal and nuclear and hydro was NEVER a straight line from "A to B". And still to this day, has a ton of problems, environmental issues and still gets lots of gov't funding and subsidies thrown it, for what is suppose to be a VERY mature and PROFITABLE industries.
Today wind, solar, BESS and UHVDC lines and systems, are more efficient, more easily and faster to deploy, develop and costs way less per kw/h than traditional fossil fuel energy sources. Even has nuclear beat with its 3x, 4x and 7x cost overruns and avg. 13+ years to build. Meanwhile clean green energy systems are up and running in 6 months to 1 year and very affordable per kw/h, at even larger economies of scale.
But Thanks to President Joe Biden (and President Barack Obama), game changing administrative policies and stewardship like the promoting and developing AI Initiatives (2016), CHIPS and Science Act, along with the Inflation Reduction Act, has paved the way to producing the next round of trillion dollar US tech companies and green energy innovations.
Yes, thanks to President Joe Biden, US tech AI and green energy companies, see a bright future ahead, with all its warts and fare share of gov't subsidies, ebbs and flows, for the next foreseeable 100+ years of clean green energy future. (Note: Let's also not forget, the "harvesting of electrons" is a relatively "free energy" source).
Thanks President Joe Biden!
Thanks again, Joe:
Big Oil given stark warning as a major crude supply surplus expected by 2030.
June 12, 2024
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/12/big-oil-given-stark-warning-as-a-major-supply-surplus-expected-by-2030.html?__source=androidappshare
The International Energy Agency said Wednesday that a U.S.-led surge in global oil production is expected to outstrip demand growth between now and the end of the decade, pushing spare capacity to unprecedented levels and potentially upending OPEC+ market management.
The forecast prompted a stern warning for Big Oil from IEA Executive Director Fatih Birol, who suggested the worlds largest energy majors may wish to align their business strategies with the changes taking place.
its latest medium-term market report, titled Oil 2024, the global energy watchdog said oil demand growth was on track to slow down before ultimately reaching its peak of near 106 million barrels per day by 2030. Thats up from just over 102 million barrels per day in 2023.
At the same time, the IEA expects total oil production capacity to surge to nearly 114 million barrels per day by 2030 a whopping 8 million barrels per day above projected global demand.
The IEA said this would result in levels of spare capacity not seen before other than at the height of the Covid-19 lockdowns in 2020.
It warned that these dynamics could have significant consequences for oil markets, including for the U.S. shale industry and producer economies in OPEC and beyond.
As the pandemic rebound loses steam, clean energy transitions advance, and the structure of Chinas economy shifts, growth in global oil demand is slowing down and set to reach its peak by 2030, the IEAs Birol said in a statement.
This reports projections, based on the latest data, show a major supply surplus emerging this decade, suggesting that oil companies may want to make sure their business strategies and plans are prepared for the changes taking place, he added.
The report comes as countries seek to move away from fossil fuels, with momentum building behind clean and energy-saving technologies. The burning of fossil fuels such as coal, oil and gas is the chief driver of the climate crisis.
The share of fossil fuels in the global energy supply has stayed at around 80% for decades, according to the IEA, although it expects this to drop to around 73% by 2030.
Oil demand in advanced economies to fall further
Despite the projected slowdown in oil demand growth, the IEA noted that in the absence of stronger policy measures or behavioral changes, crude demand is still expected to be around 3.2 million barrels per day higher by 2030 than in 2023.
It said this growth is largely driven by robust demand from fast-growing economies in Asia, as well as the aviation and petrochemical sectors.
In advanced economies, however, the IEA says oil demand is on course to dip below 43 million barrels per day by 2030, down from close to 46 million barrels per day last year. Aside from the coronavirus pandemic, the IEA said the last time oil demand from advanced economies was that low was in 1991.
In a landmark 2021 report, the IEA had urged against new oil, gas or coal developments if the world is to achieve net zero by 2050.
The findings of that report were widely criticized by several OPEC+ producers, who advocate for dual investment in hydrocarbons and renewables, until green energy can unilaterally fulfill global consumption needs.
Led by Saudi Arabia, OPEC+ refers to an influential energy alliance composed of OPEC and non-OPEC partners.1. Trump said his 2nd term Dictatorship Plans have two goals; Drill Baby Drill and Close the Border. LOL. As is typical for Do Nothing, Know Nothing, Deadbeat Repubs, he is way too late; Dem POTUS Biden has already shouldered all of the heavy lifting and assumed all of the political risk to accomplish part one, brilliantly, and it is only Trump and his lick-spittal obedient lackey Congressional Repubs who love Open Borders so much a bi-partisan, ultra Conservative Comprehensive and Lasting Immigration and Border Security Legislation is not in place this very minute.
2. Trump is great and highly skilled at lowering gas prices by producing Trump's Pandemic Closures, along with wiping out Millions Upon Millions of Jobs, Crashing Stock Markets, Killing Millions of People Around the World, but does not know shit about how to do it during one of the greatest post-Repub Great Economic Disaster Great Dem Recoveries, Economic Expansions and Historic Jobs Creation.
3. Being a Dem, Joe Biden knows what to do about it, knows how to it and WILL do it.
4. Even if Trump's handlers had sat him down and somehow managed to keep him awake for 20 minutes to show him the usual 3-panel stick figure cartoon illustration he needs to have anything explained to him and he eventually DID understand what needed to be done in order to accomplish this historic masterpiece of energy stabilization and OPEC-Killing brilliance accomplished by Joe Biden, he would not do it.
That isn't what Repubs do. They do not put America First this way or any other way. Ever. Trump is more interested in being personally renumerated by his usual means of publicly siding with and blowing America's adversaries and enemies for it.
Oh, those poor babies, Big Oil and OPEC
Thanks again, Joe:
Big Oil given stark warning as a major crude supply surplus expected by 2030.
June 12, 2024
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/12/big-oil-given-stark-warning-as-a-major-supply-surplus-expected-by-2030.html?__source=androidappshare
...
That isn't what Repubs do. They do not put America First this way or any other way. Ever. Trump is more interested in being personally renumerated by his usual means of publicly siding with and blowing America's adversaries and enemies for it.
It's remarkable how Biden's and the Dems administration has held up to stellar adherence and respect for great governance, stewardship, democratic rights and the Rule of Law, amidst the Repub clown show and Russian "useful idiots".
Take the recent example of contrasts in reactions to GUILTY verdicts in the Trump "Hush Money Campaign Violations" vs Hunter "Gun Drugged Laptop Dick Pics" trials:
On the LEFT:
- No demanding a change of venue, prosecutor (who BTW was a Trump-appointed Repub U.S. attorney, left in place by Joe Biden) or judge
- No whining from the Dems, no complaints about the DOJ from Biden family
- No endless chants of "rigged"
- No rants, threats or calls of revenge
- No calls for violence, or for riots and mayhem in the streets
- Just a concise statement, by a law abiding POTUS, to say he loves his son and will be respecting the judgment and Rule of Law
Now contrast that with the those on the right:
On the RIGHT:
- The constant whining about a change of venue upstate, change of prosecutors and/or judge (because Trump wanted a loyalist "rigged" judge like Alieen Cannon)
- The constant attempts to use all kinds of partisan political capital to pervert justice and court proceedings.
- The constant drone of whining from wannabe Veeps, Trump sycophants and QAnon\MAGA cultists.
- The constant lying of hack journalists and pundits over at the Repub propaganda machine at FOXY Muse.
- The constant chants of "rigged", "scam", "injustice", "travesty" and a blatant disregard for the Rule of Law.
- The loopy conspiracists, all over the internet (and ISG), spouting rubbish, nonsense and their Russian led disinformation.
- Trump rants, threatens and calls for a "revenge" style dictatorship, should he win in Nov 2024.
- Trump stochastic rhetoric and coded language, calls of retribution and mayhem in the streets, if convicted
America Should Appreciate How Joe Biden Handled His Sons Trial
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/america-should-appreciate-how-joe
Yes, what a difference a trial makes w/r to abiding by and respecting the Criminal Justice System, DOJ and the Rule of Law, and not just when it suits your own agenda, to abide by the law!
President Joe Biden, shows Americans, yet another proud example of how a man worthy of being called POTUS and hold the highest office in the country, should conduct themselves, even in personal hardship and adversity, when dealing with the law and the criminal justice system.
Unlike his childish "cry baby" predecessor, President Joe Biden's acceptance, respect and noninterference with the Rule of Law, once again reaffirms that, NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!
I wonder how much the Repub cry babies will whine at Trump's sentencing?
Elvis 2008
06-13-24, 00:06
Yes, what a difference a trial makes w/r to abiding by and respecting the Criminal Justice System, DOJ and the Rule of Law, and not just when it suits your own agenda, to abide by the law!
President Joe Biden, shows Americans, yet another proud example of how a man worthy of being called POTUS and hold the highest office in the country, should conduct themselves, even in personal hardship and adversity, when dealing with the law and the criminal justice system.
Unlike his childish "cry baby" predecessor, President Joe Biden's acceptance, respect and noninterference with the Rule of Law, once again reaffirms that, NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!
I wonder how much the Repub cry babies will whine at Trump's sentencing?You must have missed the part about how no one was celebrating Hunter Biden going to jail. That is because this is the most innocuous and obvious of charges. The real issue was the 10% for "the big guy" and all that that entailed. This case was just a distraction.
It is one thing to say "no one is above the law" but when you prosecute someone with a law you literally made up just to get Trump, that rings on deaf ears. Only thing Hunter Biden is good for is that it shows Dems can go to jail too now.
But Matt Taibbi wrote it better than I could:
Last Thursday, a federal court ordered former chief strategist for Donald Trump, podcaster, and symbol of All Things Evil Steve Bannon jailed for defiance of a Congressional subpoena. Convicted in 2022 for refusing to appear before a House Committee investigating the January 6th Capitol riot, Bannon on July 1st will join former Trump aide Peter Navarro in a select group of Americans jailed for contempt of Congress since the meat-grinder days of McCarthy and the House Un-American Affairs Committee (HUAC).
Detractors cheered the timely benching of the host of War Room, which generates millions of downloads as the most influential pro-Trump media program. "Steve Bannon being off the air. Is actually very good for the pro-democracy movement," chortled political strategist Rick Wilson, noting that while Bannon was going away for four months, they're "four vital months. ".
Welcome to the Third World, America. We crossed a big line in the last two weeks, first with the conviction of a presidential frontrunner on comic-book charges, now the revival of a contempt of Congress maneuver we haven't seen since the Hollywood Ten. Nobody's been sent to a logging camp or car-bombed or given a hot lead cure in a doorway, but as any current or former resident of authoritarian countries will tell you, the jailing of political opponents is a sure sign we're on that road.
I returned to America a year after 9/11, following a decade in the burgeoning Russian autocracy of Boris Yeltsin and Vladimir Putin. That experience allowed me to see how quickly even limited freedoms of speech or assembly can be vaporized. People blinded by dislike of Trump or Bannon should imagine trying to summon sympathy for people like Vladimir Gusinsky and Misha Khodorkovsky, oligarchs who got rich in very dubious privatization schemes but were early targets of political prosecutions in the Putin years (Gusinsky was raided by armed agents four months after Putin's inauguration). For those protesting that Bannon is only headed inside because he's scum who broke the law, political prosecutions always involve a legal violation, often even a real one. Americans just don't know what that looks like. End of link.
It is funny how you Democratic douches so dislike Putin while acting like him.
So Rachel Meadow is afraid of going to jail if Trump wins and why not. Maybe we can bankrupt her like the left did Alex Jones if not throw her in jail. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/msnbcs-maddow-says-shes-worried-trump-will-put-her-concentration-camp.
And now Merrick Garland is likely to go to jail if Trump wins too. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/12/us/politics/house-garland-attorney-general-biden-contempt.html.
You can't send Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon to jail and not send Garland. Hell, Garland should serve more time then those two given what he has done. By not releasing the Biden audio, isn't Garland trying to rig an election? Hell, it has already been reported the transcript and audio of Biden's interview do not match.
Seeing as how New York has found Trump guilty for election fraud, maybe we here in Texas should do the same with Biden. As we learned from New York, we too can prosecute federal offenses. It does not matter if the Feds do nothing. The Feds did nothing with Trump.
Hell, you dumb Dems cheered on making up a law none of you understood to get Trump and were so fucking clueless and arrogant. Like Taibbi said, it is easy to make up laws and prosecute people when they break them. You are literally cheering on a banana republic.
Maybe you do not know this, but you put people in jail who are a threat to others. You do not put them there because you do not like them. It is amazing to see an idiot monger like yourself cheering on rule of law when if it were truly applied, your sorry ass would have been in jail for soliciting a prostitute.
It's remarkable how Biden's and the Dems administration has held up to stellar adherence and respect for great governance, stewardship, democratic rights and the Rule of Law, amidst the Repub clown show and Russian "useful idiots".
Take the recent example of contrasts in reactions to GUILTY verdicts in the Trump "Hush Money Campaign Violations" vs Hunter "Gun Drugged Laptop Dick Pics" trials:
On the LEFT:
- No demanding a change of venue, prosecutor (who BTW was a Trump-appointed Repub U.S. attorney, left in place by Joe Biden) or judge
- No whining from the Dems, no complaints about the DOJ from Biden family
- No endless chants of "rigged"
- No rants, threats or calls of revenge
- No calls for violence, or for riots and mayhem in the streets
- Just a concise statement, by a law abiding POTUS, to say he loves his son and will be respecting the judgment and Rule of Law
Now contrast that with the those on the right:
On the RIGHT:
- The constant whining about a change of venue upstate, change of prosecutors and/or judge (because Trump wanted a loyalist "rigged" judge like Alieen Cannon)
- The constant attempts to use all kinds of partisan political capital to pervert justice and court proceedings.
- The constant drone of whining from wannabe Veeps, Trump sycophants and QAnon\MAGA cultists.
- The constant lying of hack journalists and pundits over at the Repub propaganda machine at FOXY Muse.
- The constant chants of "rigged", "scam", "injustice", "travesty" and a blatant disregard for the Rule of Law.
- The loopy conspiracists, all over the internet (and ISG), spouting rubbish, nonsense and their Russian led disinformation.
- Trump rants, threatens and calls for a "revenge" style dictatorship, should he win in Nov 2024.
- Trump stochastic rhetoric and coded language, calls of retribution and mayhem in the streets, if convicted
America Should Appreciate How Joe Biden Handled His Sons Trial
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/america-should-appreciate-how-joe
Yes, what a difference a trial makes w/r to abiding by and respecting the Criminal Justice System, DOJ and the Rule of Law, and not just when it suits your own agenda, to abide by the law!
President Joe Biden, shows Americans, yet another proud example of how a man worthy of being called POTUS and hold the highest office in the country, should conduct themselves, even in personal hardship and adversity, when dealing with the law and the criminal justice system.
Unlike his childish "cry baby" predecessor, President Joe Biden's acceptance, respect and noninterference with the Rule of Law, once again reaffirms that, NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!
I wonder how much the Repub cry babies will whine at Trump's sentencing?The whiny, desperate MAGA Trump Cult Repub congress' "10% for the big guy" horseshit fell apart so badly and embarrassingly they now have to twist and turn themselves into numbskull Taibbi Pretzels in order to spin this one into a Poor Baby Persecuted America-hating Trump and Repubs Pity Party.
LOL. But they will keep trying. What else have they got? Trump without a teleprompter is, at best, a blithering, confused and babbling reteller of Shark Week and scary Heavy Boat Battery tales of terror.
For those who like to follow the polls, they have Joe Biden, making significant gains in the POLLS in Florida...But Why?
Trump's is fast losing ground and his lead appears be shrinking in his home state of Florida, to Biden and the Dems, who are now seeing a strong trend, towards retaking and winning Florida, with a odds of a coin-flip.
Why the sudden change in the (FL) polls for Biden, well that anyone's guess? But if I were to venture a guess, I'd say it would be an out pouring of WOMEN, college students and young Floridians, that will also turnout in droves for "ABORTION" and "MARIJUANA" down ballot voting.
And in-the-wake of the GUILTY verdict, the majority of INDEPENDENT voters, are turning to President Joe Biden, and don't want a criminal and felon as their next president.
Donald Trump Gets Troubling News in Home State Poll
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-news-florida-poll-1912057
Here is one (1) other thought that comes to my mind:
IMHO, it also appears (if it isn't already obvious to anyone), now that Trump is campaigning again, the nonsensical shit flowing from his trap (cake-hole), is on steroids. I mean, the more the dude, talks (babbles), the more dumb shit come out of his mouth and the more people remember what a buffoon he really is.
Is it any wonder, he DID NOT take the stand to defend his "innocence", in his Hush Money criminal conviction trial?
Thanks again and again and again, Joe.
Not only has Bidenomics produced the greatest recovery from Trump's Pandemic in the USA compared to evert other country on the planet, it is the driving force behind averting another worldwide Great Repub Depression.
Shhh. Please, please don't anybody tell Larry Summers or any numbskull who references a Larry Summers idiocy about how Bidenomics was a dime or two too much ecomomic stimulation to pull The World out of the historic global disaster of Trump's Pandemic:
BUSINESS
World Bank: Impressive US economy is powering the world.
June 11, 2024
https://thehill.com/business/4715951-world-bank-impressive-us-economy-is-powering-the-world/
The World Bank upgraded its outlook for the global economy and said the impressive U.S. economy is powering the world.
The latest outlook estimates the global economy will expand 2.6 percent, an increase from the 2.4 percent growth predicted for the year.
In the foreword of the World Banks latest economic outlook, Indermit Gill, the groups senior vice president and chief economist, said the global economy appears to be approaching a soft landing in 2024, meaning a global recession has been avoided despite having the steepest rise in global interest rates since the 1980s.
One of the driving factors, Gill outlined, is the U.S. economy.
The U.S. economy, in particular, has shown impressive resilience, Gill wrote. Growth has remained buoyant in the teeth of the fiercest monetary policy tightening in four decades.
The U.S. economy is one of the reasons that the World Bank expects the global economy will enjoy some upside potential over the next two years, he wrote.
Ayhan Kose, the banks deputy chief economist, told The Associated Press that U.S. growth is exceptional.
And moreLOL. Just imagine how howling at the moon desperate Trump and his fellow Know Nothing, Do Nothing, Deadbeat, "always always always take credit for the magnificent achievements of Dems who shoulder all of the heavy lifting and assume all of the political risk" Repubs to get in there by hook, crook, lying and committing multiple felonies to steal the next election so they can once again claim totally undeserved and unearned credit for the spectacular USA and WORLD Economy the next POTUS will inherit from this current Dem POTUS and spend all their time playing golf, riding ponies, playing golf, clearing brush down at the ranch, playing golf, sleeping and playing golf!
When they are not publicly siding with and blowing Putin, Xi and every other adversary and enemy of America and scouring the landscape for any potential "Once in 100 Years Disaster" to embrace, exacerbate and plague America and the rest of the world with, that is.
Elvis 2008
06-13-24, 15:58
The whiny, desperate MAGA Trump Cult Repub congress' "10% for the big guy" horseshit fell apart so badly and embarrassingly they now have to twist and turn themselves into numbskull Taibbi Pretzels in order to spin this one into a Poor Baby Persecuted America-hating Trump and Repubs Pity Party.LOL. Yeah, half a billion in donations is whining. That is called putting your money where your mouth is. The whining was going on for the left with Rachel mad cow Meadow who will be bankrupted or put in jail if Trump wins office. You Democratic douches have ruled a porn star hooker and criminal, who will say anything to get out of jail, can be believed. Nothing says preserving Democracy like jailing your opponent, trashing the 6th Amendment, tossing guilty until proven innocent, and having a highly partisan jury inset itself into an election. Truth is you Democratic douches love Putin and Xi and their one party rule. That is literally what you are hoping for. You call telling the truth "whining."
But they will keep trying. What else have they got? Trump without a teleprompter is, at best, a blithering, confused and babbling reteller of Shark Week and scary Heavy Boat Battery tales of terror. The good news is today the USA has more and better paying jobs abundantly available. OMG. Nothing like someone from Thailand telling us how great things are in the USA. Maybe you have been talking to the family of Thais who have relatives who have moved into the USA illegally, but I suspect it is due to your must have missed a few things considering where you get your information.
Here is one headline you must have missed, Over 100% of the Increase in Employment Since 2020 is Foreign Born, https://mishtalk.com/economics/over-100-of-the-increase-in-employment-since-2020-is-foreign-born/
And that was from four months ago. Yesterday, even the chairman of the Federal Reserve called Biden's job reports overstated.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/fed-chair-powell-admits-biden-admin-overstating-jobs
While the Establishment Survey did indeed report that 272 K "jobs" were added, this number also included multiple job holders; stripping those out, we get that the actual number of "employed" workers plunged by 408 K.
But how is it possible that payrolls rose nearly 300 K while overall employment tumbled by more than 400 K? Well, this is where another propaganda gimmick so frequently abused by the BLS comes into play: the birth death adjustment, a statistical fudge factor that imputes job growth for any given month based on the entirely subjective assumption made by a group of pro-Biden bureaucrats of how many new businesses were created (or destroyed) in the US economy any given moment.
More astounding is that the Birth-Death imputation has resulted in 56% of all "payroll growth", or 1. 9 million statistical "payrolls" in the past year, when according to the BLS a total of 3. 4 million "payrolls" were crated.
While one can debate the quantitative aspects of the jobs report, there is no debating the qualitative: there it's one giant disaster: as we learned in May, whatever the actual number of payrolls (again, not jobs) added, what we know is that the trend of full-time to part-time worker conversions continues, with 625 K full-time jobs lost in May, offset by 286 K part-time jobs. Which is hardly a new trend: in fact, over the past year, the US has lost 1. 2 million full-time jobs, replaced with 1. 5 million part-time jobs.
Finally, there is the data point which we first highlighted more than a year ago, and which has since emerged as the biggest political talking point involving the labor market: the fact that since 2018, the US has created exactly zero native-born jobs, and all the job growth has gone to foreign-born workers.
Here is Powell defending all job gains since 2018 going to immigrants / non-native born workers:
PELLEY: Why was immigration important?
POWELL: Because, you know, immigrants come in, and they tend to work at a rate that is at or above that for non-immigrants.
And as Edward Snowden put it so eloquently, is that he's "not sure I've ever seen the chairman of the Federal Reserve publicly accuse the White House of cooking the books on employment numbers, but here we are. ".
Yes, the one place in the world where you are free to be critical of the USA government is Russia.
And that along with the ridiculously high costs of rent is why Biden will lose. Thank God, it's the economy stupid, James Carville, is not whining about the economic plight of young Americans and the American working poor Biden wants to obliterate.
It is one thing to say "no one is above the law" but when you prosecute someone with a law you literally made up just to get Trump, that rings on deaf ears. Only thing Hunter Biden is good for is that it shows Dems can go to jail too now. ...
Elvis 2008, well I'll say one thing, you certainly are a chip of the ol' gobbledegook Trump block. I mean, you couldn't sound more like Trump. Meaning, the more you talk, the more incoherent, blathering, blithering, nonsensical and conspiratorial QAnon/MAGA, Russian political "useful idiot", you become.
Pretty soon, Jewish space laser shooting, Russia's No.2 most "useful idiot", Moscow Marjorie (aka.Capital Hill Karen, aka.Cruella DeVil on the Hill), won't hold a candle to your nonsense. (....kkkk!)
I guess it was the same "made up law", that Michael Cohn, lied for Trump and on behalf of Trump, w/r to the very same crime, 6-years ago.
https://www.newsweek.com/michael-cohen-prison-sentence-explained-1899848
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-crime-new-york-manhattan-campaigns-3a0413202e80ab99c9f6377f97d07c04
Here's a GREAT SNL Video, 6-years ago, yes pre-May 2024 Trump Hush Money trial. In true SNL brilliance...they "nailed it"! It's funny how SNL & EVERYONE else (except conspiracists such yourself), knew the extent of his Hush Money crimes and the laws he was breaking, 6-years earlier. It was as plain as daylight, for everyone to see.
This should help you refresh your memory of the convict/felon Trump's crimes and the "made up law" he violated. SNL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1K8s-tQGqY
I know I had a good chuckle, at how accurate the skit was and how so "in-the-money" and "on-the-money", SNL were.
Who's Celebrating What Now?:
Maybe you do not know this, but you put people in jail who are a threat to others. You do not put them there because you do not like them. It is amazing to see an
idiot monger like yourself cheering on rule of law when if it were truly applied, your sorry ass would have been in jail for soliciting a prostitute.
So now Elvis 2008, your saying, you and Repubs don't want to follow the Rule of Law?
If memory serves, it was YOU, Elvis 2008, that was waving the pom-poms and doing all the cheering and celebrating, a GUILTY verdict.
If I recall:
- It was YOU, Elvis 2008, that was bloviating about the $400+ million new reasons to celebrate, a GUILTY verdict.
- It was your "Paycheck Superhero" dumbass, that got on the phone and wanted to donate all your mongering and prostitute dollars, to reward Trump with a GUILTY verdict.
- It was YOU, Elvis 2008, and your INCEL consipiracist, QAnon\MAGA sycophant notions, that most assuredly told us Dems, "...Oh you guys have fucked up now and given Repubs a reason to come together", with regards to a GUILTY verdict.
So now ask yourself, Elvis 2008, if a GUILTY verdict has Trump, "reuniting" the Repubs and those same gullible Repubs have put $400+ million in his campaign coffers, what exactly is it, that the "Paycheck Superhero" and conspiracist Elvis 2008, ...is whining about?
The whiny, desperate MAGA Trump Cult Repub congress' "10% for the big guy" horseshit fell apart so badly and embarrassingly they now have to twist and turn themselves into numbskull Taibbi Pretzels in order to spin this one into a Poor Baby Persecuted America-hating Trump and Repubs Pity Party.
LOL. But they will keep trying. What else have they got? Trump without a teleprompter is, at best, a blithering, confused and babbling reteller of Shark Week and scary Heavy Boat Battery tales of terror.Didn't know what the hell Trump's fascination with Sharks were, until I re-watched the SNL video (time index: 6:51) https://youtu.be/K1K8s-tQGqY?t=410, where Alec Balwin (masterfully imitating Trump) says to Stormy Daniels, "...we'll always have Shark Week" (...kkkk!)
Sex, Shark Week, and Hush Money: A Trump and Stormy Daniels Timeline (March 21st, 2023).
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-stormy-daniels-timeline-1234700886/
Now I am pretty sure Stormy Daniels' vivid recollection of Trump's nutty obsession with sharks and Shark Week, was an indelible moment, that impart, was Trump's undoing.
So when the blithering, blabbering and confused Trump, retells dying as shark chum or by heavy electric batteries in a sinking ship, one has to wonder, was he hearkening back somewhat to Stormy Daniels?
And is the shark a metaphor for the DOJ and the sinking ship, a metaphor for the RNC? And what about the electric batteries?
Perhaps our resident conspiracist (a chip of the ol' block), can help us out, on Russia's No.1 "useful idiot", Shark Week, electric batteries and sinking ships incoherent rants and blubberings?
So when the blithering, blabbering and confused TrumpYou must be talking about creepy, sleepy Joe you idiot.
Would you rather have a Polling Problem or an Election Problem?
Actually, Biden dosn't even have much of a Polling Problem if you believe demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics' unforgiving No Toss Up States Electoral College Map, its own Consensus of Polls results for Biden vs Trump in the only 3 Battleground states Biden needs to win 270 EC Votes as well as the same in the 538 Polling site; Even if the election were held tomorrow, Biden would only need to close or beat the miniscule Trump 1 to 2. 3 point or less Polling advantage he has in those states to secure a much deserved and well-earned 2nd term win.
Can a 1 to 2. 3 point or less advantage in a demonstrably Winger-leaning polling service and others be surmounted on any election day?
Yep. Quite easily. The truth of that has even finally been admitted by a hard right Winger online magazine. And Dems have been outperforming their polling numbers by at least that much vs Trump and his endorsed candidates in elections since he stole the 2016 election:
Ignore The Polls. Republicans Have A Major Voter Turnout Problem.
June 12, 2024
https://thefederalist.com/2024/06/12/ignore-the-polls-republicans-have-a-major-voter-turnout-problem/
Trump's daughter-in-law must be shifting all that dumb sucker Repub hillbilly donation money from their gub'ment entitlement checks and the big money donations from Corporate Elite CEOs who share a hearty laugh with Trump over the Repub Supply-Side / Trickle-Down scam they love to pull on, say, tip-earning workers in Nevada right into Trump's pocket to keep his failing golf resorts afloat.
Because it doesn't seem to be going into building a meaningful Ground Game presence in those battleground states.
Elvis 2008
06-14-24, 05:49
So now Elvis 2008, your saying, you and Repubs don't want to follow the Rule of Law?
If memory serves, it was YOU, Elvis 2008, that was waving the pom-poms and doing all the cheering and celebrating, a GUILTY verdict.
If I recall:
- It was YOU, Elvis 2008, that was bloviating about the $400+ million new reasons to celebrate, a GUILTY verdict.
- It was your "Paycheck Superhero" dumbass, that got on the phone and wanted to donate all your mongering and prostitute dollars, to reward Trump with a GUILTY verdict.
- It was YOU, Elvis 2008, and your INCEL consipiracist, QAnon\MAGA sycophant notions, that most assuredly told us Dems, "...Oh you guys have fucked up now and given Repubs a reason to come together", with regards to a GUILTY verdict.
So now ask yourself, Elvis 2008, if a GUILTY verdict has Trump, "reuniting" the Repubs and those same gullible Repubs have put $400+ million in his campaign coffers, what exactly is it, that the "Paycheck Superhero" and conspiracist Elvis 2008, ...is whining about?I guess you missed the part where "rule of law" means you go to jail. You have to be a fucking narcissist not to understand that. Or maybe I am wrong, and you are not monger at all but some gay tranny living in his mom's basement where all you care about is who wins an election because you have no life.
Elvis 2008
06-14-24, 14:50
I guess it was the same "made up law", that Michael Cohn, lied for Trump and on behalf of Trump, w/r to the very same crime, 6-years ago.
https://www.newsweek.com/michael-cohen-prison-sentence-explained-1899848
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-crime-new-york-manhattan-campaigns-3a0413202e80ab99c9f6377f97d07c04
Here's a GREAT SNL Video, 6-years ago, yes pre-May 2024 Trump Hush Money trial. In true SNL brilliance...they "nailed it"! It's funny how SNL & EVERYONE else (except conspiracists such yourself), knew the extent of his Hush Money crimes and the laws he was breaking, 6-years earlier. It was as plain as daylight, for everyone to see.
This should help you refresh your memory of the convict/felon Trump's crimes and the "made up law" he violated. SNL: www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1K8s-tQGqY.Well, Soy Boy, it is good what you think of as porn because this SNL skit was as realistic as porn. Rule of law is Stormy Daniels pays back every fucking dime she owes Trump because she broke her signed NDA. Yeah, Soy Boy, your idea of a female hero is Stormy Daniels who got $140,000 to do nothing other than shut her mouth and then started flapping her gums once she saw there was more money in it. Once she was caught going back on her word, she was sued for $500,000 and an was sued and lost and then engaged in the same kind of financial engineering Trump was accused of such that she did not have to pay him back. Oh yes, Trump wants that woman, a woman the age of a Grandma who needs makeup put on by the pound to look halfway decent. The reality is more that Trump would rather run her over with a truck than have sex with her.
And like any hooker, she will tell you whatever you want to hear based on who is paying her. So here we go again with her having sex with Trump after she signed a statement saying she did not have sex with him. So here is another law Stormy Daniels has broken and instead of reacting with outrage, you think Trump and Republicans dream of having a woman as great as Stormy. No doubt to you she is a strong woman Spidy. In reality, she is a lying, attention seeking, law breaking, stealing worthless deadbeat over the hill hooker. Does she have anything going for herself outside of fucking Trump twenty years ago?
And Melania Trump wants out of her marriage and went to Cohen to talk about it? Yeah, okay. Nothing says you hate your husband like having a child with him and standing by him. She stood by him even when Trump had competition for the nomination. How much is Melania in line to make off Truth Social? One billion? Two? Oh yeah, women hate a man who makes them billions of dollars. And this skit was put out before Truth social went public. Melania wants out? She does not want her sons's father in his life. How fucking stupid is that? That said prediction was dead wrong does not matter to you Spidy because to you this type of porn is real.
And Micheal Cohen is not the tax cheat, the thief, the convicted liar, the pathetic loser hanging onto the Trump coat tails who longed to be AG and lied about it. No, he is the straight man, the only rational person in the crazy Trump world and was dragged along by Trump's egomanical ways. He did not come up with the payment scheme. He just went along for the ride. He was a victim. Give me a fucking break.
And there was the doctor bit about the records being taken. "I couldn't believe anybody was making a big deal out of a drug to grow his hair that seemed to be so important. And it certainly was not a breach of medical trust to tell somebody they take Propecia to grow their hair. What's the matter with that?" he told NBC News.
Gee, what is the matter with that? Let's let a doctor go who is breaking the law, in this case a HIPAA violation. You are not allowed to talk about what drugs a patient of yours is taken. Unfucking real. Hey, Spidy, Mr. Rule of Law, do you have any witness against Trump who has not broken a fucking law?
And anytime anyone of you douches get a group of people lying like we just saw here, and we Republicans go against them, it is a conspiracy theory. The list of so called conspiracy theories is so long now I have lost count. The creation of the Covid virus was funded by Fauci, Hunter's drug use and Russian disinformation, government censorship in social media, government promoting the Covid vaccine when government knew it did not work, NIH scientists making billions off of a vaccine they know did not work, Ivermectin being a dangerous horse dewormer, Ukraine being a winnable victory ETC. The list goes on and on.
On another forum, this Democratic douche Viliany tried to make it out like the FEC with three Repubicans and three Democrats was a corrupt organization. Yes, the Democratic douche version of rule of law is an all Democratic jury like in Manhattan.
The part that cannot get sink into your soy soaked head Spidy is my POV is agreed with by half of America. I did not give $400 million myself Soy Boy.
You want rule of law mo fo? We are going to give it to you. You send a fucking SWAT team to the Trump house with orders to shoot to kill if anyone gets in your way, we are going to make sure that whatever Trump is charged with Biden gets the exact same punishment. You send Bannon and Navarro to jail for contempt of Congress. Merrick Garland goes to jail too. When Alex Jones is pushed into bankruptcy by some Democratic judge, we will make sure the exact same fate occurs with Rachel Meadow and a Republican judge.
And you are so full of shit, you post about "rule of law" on a monger board. You are so fucking arrogant, so full of shit, the thought that you could be convicted and jailed for breaking the law for being a monger does not even register. When you say rule of law, what you really mean is applying grace to Democratic douches while hammering Republicans with the law.
Well, that is not what rule of law means you dumb fuck. Rule of law means every monger here goes to jail.
Would you rather have a Polling Problem or an Election Problem?
Actually, Biden dosn't even have much of a Polling Problem if you believe demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics' unforgiving No Toss Up States Electoral College Map, its own Consensus of Polls results for Biden vs Trump in the only 3 Battleground states Biden needs to win 270 EC Votes as well as the same in the 538 Polling site; Even if the election were held tomorrow, Biden would only need to close or beat the miniscule Trump 1 to 2. 3 point or less Polling advantage he has in those states to secure a much deserved and well-earned 2nd term win.
Can a 1 to 2. 3 point or less advantage in a demonstrably Winger-leaning polling service and others be surmounted on any election day?
Yep. Quite easily. The truth of that has even finally been admitted by a hard right Winger online magazine. And Dems have been outperforming their polling numbers by at least that much vs Trump and his endorsed candidates in elections since he stole the 2016 election:
Ignore The Polls. Republicans Have A Major Voter Turnout Problem.
June 12, 2024
https://thefederalist.com/2024/06/12/ignore-the-polls-republicans-have-a-major-voter-turnout-problem/
Trump's daughter-in-law must be shifting all that dumb sucker Repub hillbilly donation money from their gub'ment entitlement checks and the big money donations from Corporate Elite CEOs who share a hearty laugh with Trump over the Repub Supply-Side / Trickle-Down scam they love to pull on, say, tip-earning workers in Nevada right into Trump's pocket to keep his failing golf resorts afloat.
Because it doesn't seem to be going into building a meaningful Ground Game presence in those battleground states.
Good read on polls and how they are often viewed and misused in politics.
If you read nothing but posts from conservative influencers on X, youd be convinced that Donald Trump has already won the 2024 election. ...there's no way Trump can lose, or so the
conventional thinking goes.
While its certainly possible the polls are accurate, the outcome of recent elections should give conservatives reason to pump the brakes on celebrating before any ballots have been cast.
Case in point: A special election held in Ohios 6th Congressional District on Tuesday...While Rulli (Repub) defeated Kripchak (Dem) in Tuesdays matchup and expanded Republicans thin House majority, the election was much closer than originally predicted. Preliminary results indicate Rulli won the race by 9.4 points a more than 20-point shift in Democrats favor...
https://thefederalist.com/2024/06/12/ignore-the-polls-republicans-have-a-major-voter-turnout-problem/
In his article, Shawn Fleetwood, basically goes on to show "the alarming voting trend towards Dems" and repeats what ISG Dems, have been saying for months.
The fantastic wins and gains for Democrats in the 2020, 2022, 2023 and 2024 elections, midterm elections, special elections and primaries, throughout the country (and not only in battleground states), is representative of how Americans have shifted or continue to vote for Dems, especially on key issues like when abortion, IVF, contraception and marijuana are on the ballot or hang in the balance.
Despite conservatives hype, election polls are meaningless. The only thing that matters in modern U.S. elections is getting ballots into boxes. Until Republicans learn to chase ballots and compete with the Democrats election machine, they can continue to expect to lose every significant election under the sun.
https://thefederalist.com/2024/06/12/ignore-the-polls-republicans-have-a-major-voter-turnout-problem/
Couldn't agree more! This one statement (above) in his article...sums it up! That when Repubs primarily chase an election win based on "the (fake) polls", instead of ballots, Repubs like Trump, will only continue to fail at the ballot-box, "fall asleep at the wheel" and inevitably, will only be fooling themselves!
CheckMate1
06-14-24, 22:07
Good read on polls and how they are often viewed and misused in politics.
In his article, Shawn Fleetwood, basically goes on to show "the alarming voting trend towards Dems" and repeats what ISG Dems, have been saying for months.
The fantastic wins and gains for Democrats in the 2020, 2022, 2023 and 2024 elections, midterm elections, special elections and primaries, throughout the country (and not only in battleground states), is representative of how Americans have shifted or continue to vote for Dems, especially on key issues like abortion, IVF, contraception and marijuana are on the ballot.
Couldn't agree more! This one statement (above) in his article...sums it up! That when Repubs primarily chase an election win based on "the (fake) polls", instead of ballots, Repubs like Trump, will only continue to fail at the ballot-box, "fall asleep at the wheel" and inevitably, will only be fooling themselves!Listened to Scaramucci on rick wilson on youtube about how it may be different than how things are portrayed with polls and media.
I thought their insight was very interesting. One of them said that in 2016, people didn't want to say they were voting for Trump out of fear of being alienated by their family / friends. Now in 2024, pretty much all the people who are going to vote for Trump, within the Republican party, are very much outspoken. And those who do not plan to vote for him, are in a state of silence out of fear of MAGA. I believe this to be true as well.
So I think he will have fewer votes than he did in 2020, and possibly even less than 2016. Time will tell. That's why I tell everyone to vote, don't care who they vote for. Just do it.
Pollsters and media like to have a close match. Ratings / revenues are better for it. They have a reason to keep things close.
First, the Winger-owned Wall Street Jounal concocted a "report" about Joe Biden supposedly "slipping" mentally at a meeting that, no surprise, was comprised of known Repub liars' opinion and no truth-telling Dem opinion. Including one well-documented Repub former Squeaker of the House who was known to have made a similar public statement that he totally contradicted in private:
The Wall Street Journals story about Bidens mental acuity suffers from glaring problems.
June 6, 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/media/wall-street-journal-biden-mental-acuity/index.html
The business broadsheet published and hyped a story Wednesday declaring that behind closed doors, President Joe Biden has shown signs of slipping. The story questioned Bidens mental acuity, playing into a GOP-propelled narrative that the 81-year-old president lacks the fitness to hold the nations highest office.
But an examination of the report reveals a glaring problem: Most of the sources reporters Annie Linskey and Siobhan Hughes relied on were Republicans. In fact, buried in the story, the reporters themselves acknowledged that they had drawn their sweeping conclusion based on GOP sources who, obviously, have an incentive to make comments that will damage Bidens candidacy.
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It is difficult to imagine that the newspaper, or any outlet, would run a similar story declaring that Trump is slipping behind the scenes based on the word of top Democratic figures despite the fact that the Democratic leadership has demonstrated a much stronger relationship with the truth in recent years than their Republican counterparts.
More broadly speaking, The Journals piece pointed to a continued problem roiling the news media as it covers the 2024 election. Trump is permitted to fall asleep in court and make nonsensical public statements on a routine basis without any serious questions raised about his mental acuity. Meanwhile, Biden is judged on an entirely different standard.Then, the Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group of local news outlets are caught repeating the Winger-owned WST bullshit "report" on their local outlets, which polls show viewers believe to be "more trustworthy" than the national outlets, apparently all reading from the exact same Winger script:
Watch: Local Sinclair Anchors Read Same Shady Script on Bidens Age.
Local news anchors across the country are reading from the exact same script on Joe Biden.
June 11, 2024
https://newrepublic.com/post/182567/sinclair-right-wing-script-biden-age-local-news
Local television news broadcasters are airing suspiciously similar attacks on Joe Bidens mental acuity and how it will affect the coming electionand it appears to be part of a coordinated effort.
The Sinclair Broadcast Group owns or operates 185 local television stations across the country, and dozens of their stations aired a segment from national correspondent Matthew Galka citing a Wall Street Journal article that makes dubious attacks on Bidens age and mental awareness. The stations that aired the segment introduced it using startlingly similar, if not identical language, the Popular Information and Public Notice newsletters reported.And now we have this report in a couple of national news outlets:
CEOs at Trump meeting say he was 'meandering,' 'doesn't know what he's talking about'.
June 14, 2024
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/14/ceos-at-trump-meeting-not-impressed.html?__source=androidappshare
WASHINGTON Former President Donald Trump failed to impress everyone in a room full of top CEOs Thursday at the Business Roundtables quarterly meeting, multiple attendees told CNBC.
Trump doesnt know what hes talking about, said one CEO who was in the room, according to a person who heard the executive speaking. The CEO also said Trump did not explain how he planned to accomplish any of his policy proposals, that person said.
Several CEOs said that Trump was remarkably meandering, could not keep a straight thought and was all over the map, CNBCs Andrew Ross Sorkin reported Friday on CNBCs Squawk Box.
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The same CEOs who were struck by Trumps lack of focus walked into the meeting being Trump supporter-ish or thinking that they might be leaning that direction, Sorkin reported.
These were people who I think might have been actually predisposed to Trump but actually walked out of the room less predisposed to him, Sorkin said.
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Trumps energy in the meeting was also noticeably subdued, according to two people who were in the room. At no time during his remarks was there any noticeable applause for Trump, two attendees told CNBC.
So this is when the modest test of Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group begins. Do I even have to spell out what that "more trustworthy" local news test is? LOL.
Listened to Scaramucci on rick wilson on youtube about how it may be different than how things are portrayed with polls and media.
I thought their insight was very interesting. One of them said that in 2016, people didn't want to say they were voting for Trump out of fear of being alienated by their family / friends. Now in 2024, pretty much all the people who are going to vote for Trump, within the Republican party, are very much outspoken. And those who do not plan to vote for him, are in a state of silence out of fear of MAGA. I believe this to be true as well.
So I think he will have fewer votes than he did in 2020, and possibly even less than 2016. Time will tell. That's why I tell everyone to vote, don't care who they vote for. Just do it.
Pollsters and media like to have a close match. Ratings / revenues are better for it. They have a reason to keep things close.Scaramucci is one of the very few commentators who usually bothers to point out that Biden's stiff gait is in large part due to the fact that he fractured his foot a few years ago and did not stay off of it long enough for it to fully return to normal, combined with other physical problems common to people in their 80's.
Bidens Physical Says Hes Healthy and Vigorous, But Gait Remains Stiff
https://time.com/6256442/bidens-physical-healthy-gait-age/
None of which has anything to do with his proven fitness to be one of the most accomplished Presidents in history, of course.
Biden himself does not generally offer any excuses for it nor does he expect any specual forgiveness or allowances for it. The same for his methods for brilliantly compensating for his early childhood stuttering problem, which sometimes manifests itself when he instantly substitutes a potential stutter trigger word or phrase for a perfectly acceptable alternative or takes a few seconds to choose the best way to most effectively answer a question that will avoid a potential stutter trigger.
On another forum, this Democratic douche Viliany tried to make it out like the FEC with three Repubicans and three Democrats was a corrupt organization. Yes, the Democratic douche version of rule of law is an all Democratic jury like in Manhattan.
That was because you penned your latest fiction that the FEC had reviewed Trump's payoff scheme and exonerated him. Of course, this was patently untrue. But I guess anyone who challenged your revisionist recaps must be a Democratic douche.
I do have just one question for you Elvis. No value judgement here. Are you really Marjorie Taylor Greene in drag?
I guess you missed the part where "rule of law" means you go to jail. You have to be a fucking narcissist not to understand that. Or maybe I am wrong, and you are not monger at all but some gay tranny living in his mom's basement where all you care about is who wins an election because you have no life.
(....kkkk!) Struck a nerve did I? Or was it a major artery? (...kkkk!)
...some gay tranny living in his mom's basement...
Is that the best you got...a weak-ass "mom's basement" line? Well, let's just say, "...Look man, I ain't gonna fall for NO banana in my tail pipe!" (...kkkk!) (...kkkk!)
'Thin-skinned' Trump's courtroom meltdown is entirely predictable, Nov 06, 2023
...This case gets to something very close to his heart, which is his identity as a business tycoon, and we know that he has pretty thin skin, and so this is a test for him if he can remain composed...
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-fraud-trial-2666162637/
The Joy of Making Trump Listen to Mean Tweets About Himself, Apr 17th, 2024
The vicious, thin-skinned ex-president was forced to endure readings of social media posts by prospective jurors that mercilessly mocked him. It was great! ...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-joy-of-making-trump-listen-to-mean-tweets-about-himself
Yep, definitely a chip of the ol' Donand J. Trump "daddy block"! Meaning you, Elvis 2008, are as thin skinned as your "Loud and Save-ior" convict, criminal pussy-grabbing, blubbering dumbass ex-president!
But I could be wrong, as others have wondered and asked the question, "Is that you, Moscow Marjorie?" And to be fair w/r to the question, it is getting harder to distinguish between, all of Russia's "useful idiots"!!! (...kkkk!)
PS: Only thirsty and desperate ISGers (typically wingers), with little to no imagination, continually trot out, some version of the same ol' dumb, worn out and tired "...living in his mom's basement..." line, as if it's the ultimate mic drop moment!
I guess you missed the part where "rule of law" means you go to jail...BTW, before I declare your statement (above), utter rubbish, which or who's "rule of law" are you dumbfoundingly referring to in scare quotes?
Is it the "rule of law" according to convict/felon Trump or INCEL Elvis 2008? Or is it the one, 340 million other law abiding Americans, answer to?
Or is this just more Elvis 2008, bemoaning a Trump GUILTY verdict and attempting sarcasm?
Elvis 2008
06-15-24, 12:33
That was because you penned your latest fiction that the FEC had reviewed Trump's payoff scheme and exonerated him.The FEC did not fine Trump, and they find Hiliary for 2016. Enough said. You are engaged in an idiotic battle of semantics.
I do have just one question for you Elvis. No value judgement here. Are you really Marjorie Taylor Greene in drag?Is that supposed to be funny? You call me a liar and start with "no value judgement here". Is that your fucked up version of truth? You would not know truth if it hit you in the head.
But on to more important things, aren't you late for one of your Covid boosters? You still wearing a mask? Have you ventured out your Motel 6 in the last year? I remember you bragging about the towels there. Are they still all warm and fluffy? I think I can speak for all the guys here and say we were really jealous of you and your towels.
Elvis 2008
06-15-24, 12:48
Or is it the one, 340 million other law abiding Americans, answer to?
Or is this just more Elvis 2008, bemoaning a Trump GUILTY verdict and attempting sarcasm?Do you work on being this stupid? The average American breaks three laws a day.
https://www.wholefoodsmagazine.com/articles/3161-three-felonies-a-day
Just look through some 50 separate Titles of the United States Code, add those offenses together, and you will come up with at least 27,000 pages of crimes. That would be enough to be any attorney's nightmare, let alone for a private citizen. Yet, adding insult to injury, many of these criminal code sections then incorporate by reference the administrative regulations (and their sanctions and penalties) of various regulatory agencies. The ABA does not even know how many such regulations exist, but it approximates them to over 10,000. The sheer number of these laws is stupendous and still keeps growing. Even Congress' own research service cannot count the current number of Federal crimes. And if they cannot keep track of them, how could you or I?
All these numbers speak to a different concern: We find that there is no single place where an American can go to learn what is a federal crime. The laws are scattered pell-mell throughout the code.
Three Felonies a Day?
November 19,2020 Scott see. Tips.
"Show me the man and I'll find you the crime. " Lavrentiy Beria, Stalin's Soviet Security Chief.
It is no State secret that government legislators and bureaucrats churn out a multitude of laws, statutes, codes, rules, and regulations year after year without any letup. After all, they must justify their existence, and one way to do that is to make new laws, rules, and regulations for us to follow. It also solidifies their power over their fellow citizens.
Almost two millennia ago, the Roman historian Tacitus observed that "the more corrupt the State, the more numerous the laws. " he was on to something. In the United States, the growth industry is not really in Congressional laws, which actually show a mild downward trend at times, but is in the bureaucratic rules and regulations and guidance documents that they generate. The old and outdated rules and regulations rarely go away, while the new ones keep piling up. How can anyone, even a lawyer, keep up with all of the mandates?
The Result?
Some 20 years ago, the American Bar Association (ABA) reported that we have more than 3,300 separate criminal offenses. And 40% of these criminal offenses were created in just the previous three decades. Now, that estimate has increased to 4,500 Federal crimes in the United States Code, and more than 300,000 Federal crimes in some 400,000+ Federal rules and regulations!
Just look through some 50 separate Titles of the United States Code, add those offenses together, and you will come up with at least 27,000 pages of crimes. That would be enough to be any attorney's nightmare, let alone for a private citizen. Yet, adding insult to injury, many of these criminal code sections then incorporate by reference the administrative regulations (and their sanctions and penalties) of various regulatory agencies. The ABA does not even know how many such regulations exist, but it approximates them to over 10,000. The sheer number of these laws is stupendous and still keeps growing. Even Congress' own research service cannot count the current number of Federal crimes. And if they cannot keep track of them, how could you or I?
And if you cannot keep track of the laws, how will you know when they have been violated? For instance, assessing criminal penalties for harming the environment may sound like a great idea, but not when they result in an injustice. In 1994, the White Pass & Yukon Railroad hired a contracting company to blast and carry away rock outcroppings. In doing its work, one employee of the contractor was using a backhoe to clear some rock debris from the tracks and accidentally struck an oil pipeline running alongside the railroad tracks. The pipeline burst open and spilled many thousands of gallons of oil into the adjacent creek. Theoff-dutymanager of the Railroad (not the worker, nor the manager of the independent contractor) was later convicted and sentenced to six months in prison, a relatively lucky sentence considering the other criminal charges he faced for conduct that happened while he was not even working and by someone who was not even his employee!
Are We Being Over Criminalized?
In his 2011 book Three Felonies A Day How the Feds Target the Innocent, Boston civil-rights lawyer Harvey Silverglate reasoned that the average American commits several felonies each day without even realizing it. Worse still, he notes that if the government takes a dislike to you for any reason, then they can and will easily dig up a felony that you are guilty of.
That is the thing that unites all you Democratic douches, your complete fucking arrogance.
The FEC did not fine Trump, and they find Hiliary for 2016. Enough said. You are engaged in an idiotic battle of semantics. All that proves is that the Democratic FEC commissioners are more fair minded and willing to find fault. BTW Hillary's campaign was fined a miniscule amount and the DNC a much larger amount. And you know why? Because the DNC classified the expenditures for the Steele dossier as: . Wait for it. Legal expenses instead of Opposition Research.
But on to more important things, aren't you late for one of your Covid boosters? You still wearing a mask? Have you ventured out your Motel 6 in the last year? I remember you bragging about the towels there. Are they still all warm and fluffy? I think I can speak for all the guys here and say we were really jealous of you and your towels.So kind of you to be concerned. Yes I am up to date on my vaccinations. Are you? I remember you were quick to get those CoVid vaccination shots when they were first made available. Now, in a fit of hypocrisy that can only define a partisan hack. You attack the vaccinations and claim they are completely ineffectual and dangerous. Just one question Elvis, does your neck hurt when you talk out of both sides of your face?
As to the hotel in Medellin. I haven't lived there for close to 2 years now.
The average American breaks three laws a day.
https://www.wholefoodsmagazine.com/articles/3161-three-felonies-a-day
Just look through some 50 separate Titles of the United States Code, add those offenses together, and you will come up with at least 27,000 pages of crimes. That would be enough to be any attorney's nightmare, let alone for a private citizen. Yet, adding insult to injury, many of these criminal code sections then incorporate by reference the administrative regulations (and their sanctions and penalties) of various regulatory agencies. The ABA does not even know how many such regulations exist, but it approximates them to over 10,000. The sheer number of these laws is stupendous and still keeps growing. Even Congress' own research service cannot count the current number of Federal crimes. And if they cannot keep track of them, how could you or I?
All these numbers speak to a different concern: We find that there is no single place where an American can go to learn what is a federal crime. The laws are scattered pell-mell throughout the code.
Three Felonies a Day?
November 19,2020 Scott see. Tips.
"Show me the man and I'll find you the crime. " Lavrentiy Beria, Stalin's Soviet Security Chief.
It is no State secret that government legislators and bureaucrats churn out a multitude of laws, statutes, codes, rules, and regulations year after year without any letup. After all, they must justify their existence, and one way to do that is to make new laws, rules, and regulations for us to follow. It also solidifies their power over their fellow citizens.
Almost two millennia ago, the Roman historian Tacitus observed that "the more corrupt the State, the more numerous the laws. " he was on to something. In the United States, the growth industry is not really in Congressional laws, which actually show a mild downward trend at times, but is in the bureaucratic rules and regulations and guidance documents that they generate. The old and outdated rules and regulations rarely go away, while the new ones keep piling up. How can anyone, even a lawyer, keep up with all of the mandates?
The Result?
Some 20 years ago, the American Bar Association (ABA) reported that we have more than 3,300 separate criminal offenses. And 40% of these criminal offenses were created in just the previous three decades. Now, that estimate has increased to 4,500 Federal crimes in the United States Code, and more than 300,000 Federal crimes in some 400,000+ Federal rules and regulations!
Just look through some 50 separate Titles of the United States Code, add those offenses together, and you will come up with at least 27,000 pages of crimes. That would be enough to be any attorney's nightmare, let alone for a private citizen. Yet, adding insult to injury, many of these criminal code sections then incorporate by reference the administrative regulations (and their sanctions and penalties) of various regulatory agencies. The ABA does not even know how many such regulations exist, but it approximates them to over 10,000. The sheer number of these laws is stupendous and still keeps growing. Even Congress' own research service cannot count the current number of Federal crimes. And if they cannot keep track of them, how could you or I?
And if you cannot keep track of the laws, how will you know when they have been violated? For instance, assessing criminal penalties for harming the environment may sound like a great idea, but not when they result in an injustice. In 1994, the White Pass & Yukon Railroad hired a contracting company to blast and carry away rock outcroppings. In doing its work, one employee of the contractor was using a backhoe to clear some rock debris from the tracks and accidentally struck an oil pipeline running alongside the railroad tracks. The pipeline burst open and spilled many thousands of gallons of oil into the adjacent creek. Theoff-dutymanager of the Railroad (not the worker, nor the manager of the independent contractor) was later convicted and sentenced to six months in prison, a relatively lucky sentence considering the other criminal charges he faced for conduct that happened while he was not even working and by someone who was not even his employee!
Are We Being Over Criminalized?
In his 2011 book Three Felonies A Day How the Feds Target the Innocent, Boston civil-rights lawyer Harvey Silverglate reasoned that the average American commits several felonies each day without even realizing it. Worse still, he notes that if the government takes a dislike to you for any reason, then they can and will easily dig up a felony that you are guilty of.
That is the thing that unites all you Democratic douches, your complete fucking arrogance.You've written some good posts recently Elvis. My main point of disagreement is that most board members posting in this thread are not douches, but rather people who've been sadly and unduly influenced by Democratic Party propaganda.
Your post above is my favorite. I read Silverglate's book and two others like them. Hunter Biden should never have been convicted of felony charges for weapons violations. Neither should Trump have been for paying off a porn star and cooperating with the National Enquirer to kill the Paula McDougal and false love child stories. The most egregious may have been the $455 million that Trump was fined by the state of New York for violating New York Executive Law 63 (12). There's no doubt he violated the law, which enables prosecutors to charge any New York business or businessman with fraud. But the magnitude of the fine was ridiculous given the banks knew Trump was lying on his statements of financial condition and loaned him money anyway. And Trump never defaulted on the terms of the loans in question. He made all the principal and interest payments and the banks made money. Finally, none of the money will go to the banks that allegedly were defrauded. Rather all of it will go into the coffers of the State of New York. And that's one of the main reasons for the existence of New York Executive Law 63 (12), to enable the state to grab assets from businesses and businessmen.
The one silver lining in this is perhaps it will start to make the political class realize how fucked up our justice system is. Maybe that's starting to seep in on Trump. In fact, maybe Hunter would have fared better under a Trump Department of Justice than he is now. From the New York Times:
(Trump) sometimes leads with empathy about the plight of addiction and his own family experience with it, including in a recent interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News.
“I had a brother who suffered tremendously from alcoholism and alcohol,” Mr. Trump told Mr. Hannity of his older brother, Fred Trump Jr., whose fight with addiction Mr. Trump often credits for why he himself does not drink. “And it was a terrible thing to watch. He was an incredible guy with the best personality. He was the best-looking person you have ever seen. Everything was perfect. But he had an addiction. And so I understand addiction.”
In other interviews this year, he has used questions about Hunter Biden to suggest his empathy with those struggling with addiction and to lament the destructive effects of fentanyl flowing across the border.
These days, Mr. Trump rarely mentions Hunter Biden on the stump. Instead, he tends to refer broadly to Mr. Biden and his family as corrupt.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/us/politics/donald-trump-hunter-biden.html?searchResultPosition=12
As Silverglate has written, this issue is much bigger than just Biden and Trump. And for that matter it's even bigger than what Silverglate writes about. How many young, black American men are in jail who shouldn't be? How many people have been executed who never should have been? We historically have had the highest or close to the highest incarceration rate in the world. The prosecutors are out of control.
First, the Winger-owned Wall Street Jounal concocted a "report" about Joe Biden supposedly "slipping" mentally at a meeting that, no surprise, was comprised of known Repub liars' opinion and no truth-telling Dem opinion. Including one well-documented Repub former Squeaker of the House who was known to have made a similar public statement that he totally contradicted in private:
The Wall Street Journals story about Bidens mental acuity suffers from glaring problems.
June 6, 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/media/wall-street-journal-biden-mental-acuity/index.html
Then, the Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group of local news outlets are caught repeating the Winger-owned WST bullshit "report" on their local outlets, which polls show viewers believe to be "more trustworthy" than the national outlets, apparently all reading from the exact same Winger script:
Watch: Local Sinclair Anchors Read Same Shady Script on Bidens Age.
Local news anchors across the country are reading from the exact same script on Joe Biden.
June 11, 2024
https://newrepublic.com/post/182567/sinclair-right-wing-script-biden-age-local-news
And now we have this report in a couple of national news outlets:
CEOs at Trump meeting say he was 'meandering,' 'doesn't know what he's talking about'.
June 14, 2024
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/14/ceos-at-trump-meeting-not-impressed.html?__source=androidappshare
So this is when the modest test of Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group begins. Do I even have to spell out what that "more trustworthy" local news test is? LOL.I never knew the Sinclair Broadcast Group existed before reading about it on this forum. It's interesting to know that it's part of a vast right wing conspiracy to brainwash Americans in the heartland. Since I know little about it, I can't comment.
However, I do read the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. And have in the past subscribed to the Washington Post. The WSJ is the only one of the group that has objective news reporting about American politics. It broke the Stormy Daniels and National Enquirer / Paula McDougal stories. There's a good chance America never would have known about these alleged instances of election interference if not for the WSJ.
The CNN piece is a misrepresentation of the WSJ article, which was extremely well researched. Yes, the WSJ piece does paint a sad picture of the President's mental acuity, because the man is slipping. But it bent over backwards to be fair to Biden. For example:
Former President Donald Trump, who at 77 is 3 years younger than Biden, also has faced questions about his mental acuity. Indeed, both candidates have been captured repeatedly on camera slipping up on facts or otherwise botching their public remarks, providing a steady stream of fodder for both Democrats and Republicans to attack the mental capacity of the opposing candidate.
During Bidens January meeting on Ukraine, the president laid out a forceful case for providing aid, according to administration officials and some participants, who added that using notes in such meetings is common practice. White House spokesman Bates denied that Biden had misspoken during his one-on-one exchange with Johnson in February about energy policy.
Administration aides familiar with last years debt-ceiling negotiations said Biden was effective, that his role was to be above the fray and to provide detailed instructions behind the scenes. They said McCarthy privately told administration officials at the time that he was impressed with Bidens performance, and that McCarthy suggested as much in public remarks.
They said the passage of both Ukraine funding and a debt-ceiling increase without major concessions to Republicans shows he succeeded.
Some who attended the meetings attributed off-key moments to his speech impediment and his tendency to be long-winded. Those who expressed concern about Biden said the behavior they saw suggested an unevenness, not the caricature of an addled leader that some of his political opponents draw. The White House said the presidents doctors have found him fit to serve, and that his recent annual physical showed no need for a cognitive test.
Members of the Biden administration offered numerous examples of other situations that they said showed the president was sharp and engaged, including long hours in the Situation Room in April during and after Irans missile attack on Israel, and late nights on the phone with lawmakers from his White House residence.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/joe-biden-age-election-2024-8ee15246?mod=Searchresults_pos4&page=1
We don't often get to see Biden unscripted, like Robert Hur, Merrick Garland's hand-picked special prosecutor in the classified documents case. Hur and others who have, including some of the sources in the WSJ article, don't paint a pretty picture.
Fair and balanced doesn't mean fair and balanced to just your side.
I never knew the Sinclair Broadcast Group existed before reading about it on this forum. It's interesting to know that it's part of a vast right wing conspiracy to brainwash Americans in the heartland. Since I know little about it, I can't comment.
However, I do read the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. And have in the past subscribed to the Washington Post. The WSJ is the only one of the group that has objective news reporting about American politics. It broke the Stormy Daniels and National Enquirer / Paula McDougal stories. There's a good chance America never would have known about these alleged instances of election interference if not for the WSJ.
The CNN piece is a misrepresentation of the WSJ article, which was extremely well researched. Yes, the WSJ piece does paint a sad picture of the President's mental acuity, because the man is slipping. But it bent over backwards to be fair to Biden. For example:
Former President Donald Trump, who at 77 is 3 years younger than Biden, also has faced questions about his mental acuity. Indeed, both candidates have been captured repeatedly on camera slipping up on facts or otherwise botching their public remarks, providing a steady stream of fodder for both Democrats and Republicans to attack the mental capacity of the opposing candidate.
During Bidens January meeting on Ukraine, the president laid out a forceful case for providing aid, according to administration officials and some participants, who added that using notes in such meetings is common practice. White House spokesman Bates denied that Biden had misspoken during his one-on-one exchange with Johnson in February about energy policy.
Administration aides familiar with last years debt-ceiling negotiations said Biden was effective, that his role was to be above the fray and to provide detailed instructions behind the scenes. They said McCarthy privately told administration officials at the time that he was impressed with Bidens performance, and that McCarthy suggested as much in public remarks.
They said the passage of both Ukraine funding and a debt-ceiling increase without major concessions to Republicans shows he succeeded.
Some who attended the meetings attributed off-key moments to his speech impediment and his tendency to be long-winded. Those who expressed concern about Biden said the behavior they saw suggested an unevenness, not the caricature of an addled leader that some of his political opponents draw. The White House said the presidents doctors have found him fit to serve, and that his recent annual physical showed no need for a cognitive test.
Members of the Biden administration offered numerous examples of other situations that they said showed the president was sharp and engaged, including long hours in the Situation Room in April during and after Irans missile attack on Israel, and late nights on the phone with lawmakers from his White House residence.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/joe-biden-age-election-2024-8ee15246?mod=Searchresults_pos4&page=1
We don't often get to see Biden unscripted, like Robert Hur, Merrick Garland's hand-picked special prosecutor in the classified documents case. Hur and others who have, including some of the sources in the WSJ article, don't paint a pretty picture.
Fair and balanced doesn't mean fair and balanced to just your side.So the Winger Murdoch-owned WSJ "report" with the headline:
Behind Closed Doors, Biden Shows Signs of Slipping.
Participants in meetings said the 81-year-old president performed poorly at times. The White House said Biden is sharp and his critics are playing partisan politics.
Is obviously fair and balanced according to you because somewhere in the "report" they threw in some "Bothsider" pabulum about Trump too.
Great.
When the WSJ features a headline like that about Donald covfefe, WWII is coming, I nearly escaped death, that photo of my sexual assault victim is of my wife, a failed teleprompter always means it's Sharknado Week, CEOs he addressed say he meandered and didn't know what he was talking about (a claim never made about Biden) Trump and then Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group's local news outlet anchors repeat the most election-damaging phrases from it in parrot-like mimicry around the country sometime between now and November 5, please post the links for it here.
Thank you.
First, the Winger-owned Wall Street Jounal concocted a "report" about Joe Biden supposedly "slipping" mentally at a meeting that, no surprise, was comprised of known Repub liars' opinion and no truth-telling Dem opinion. Including one well-documented Repub former Squeaker of the House who was known to have made a similar public statement that he totally contradicted in private:
The Wall Street Journals story about Bidens mental acuity suffers from glaring problems.
June 6, 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/media/wall-street-journal-biden-mental-acuity/index.html
Then, the Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group of local news outlets are caught repeating the Winger-owned WST bullshit "report" on their local outlets, which polls show viewers believe to be "more trustworthy" than the national outlets, apparently all reading from the exact same Winger script:
Watch: Local Sinclair Anchors Read Same Shady Script on Bidens Age.
Local news anchors across the country are reading from the exact same script on Joe Biden.
June 11, 2024
https://newrepublic.com/post/182567/sinclair-right-wing-script-biden-age-local-news
And now we have this report in a couple of national news outlets:
CEOs at Trump meeting say he was 'meandering,' 'doesn't know what he's talking about'.
June 14, 2024
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/14/ceos-at-trump-meeting-not-impressed.html?__source=androidappshare
So this is when the modest test of Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group begins. Do I even have to spell out what that "more trustworthy" local news test is? LOL.It's really funny how some people are willing to throw stones from the comfort of their glass houses. One would presume they should be very, very quiet due to glaring Trump's own mental issues, but alas.
From another thread:
Biden Is Getting Older. Trump Is Losing His Mind.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/biden-getting-older-trump-losing-mind
Trump, Dementia, Collective Pathology
https://kenmcgoogan.com/2024/05/17/trump-dementia-collective-pathology
This is that damning petition McGoogan is talking about, and it's currently signed by nearly 2,500 licensed mental health professionals (3 weeks ago it was signed by 1,900 people).
We, the undersigned licensed medical and mental health professionals concur: From our years of training and experience, we are convinced that, while a definitive diagnosis would require further testing, Donald Trump is showing unmistakable signs strongly suggesting dementia, based on his public behavior and informant reports that show progressive deterioration in memory, thinking, ability to use language, behavior, and both gross and fine motor skills.Our Diagnostic Impression of Trump is Probable Dementia: For Licensed Professionals Only
https://www.change.org/p/our-diagnostic-impression-of-trump-is-probable-dementia-for-licensed-professionals-only
Do you work on being this stupid? The average American breaks three laws a day.
https://www.wholefoodsmagazine.com/articles/3161-three-felonies-a-day
Just look through some 50 separate Titles of the United States Code, add those offenses together, and you will come up with at least 27,000 pages of crimes. That would be enough to be any attorney's nightmare, let alone for a private citizen. ...
Three Felonies a Day?
...
Some 20 years ago, the American Bar Association (ABA) reported that we have more than 3,300 separate criminal offenses. And 40% of these criminal offenses were created in just the previous three decades. Now, that estimate has increased to 4,500 Federal crimes in the United States Code, and more than 300,000 Federal crimes in some 400,000+ Federal rules and regulations!
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Are We Being Over Criminalized? That was a nice comedic, Moscow Marjorie, rant on crime. I find your "outrage" on crime and The Rule of Law, just childish rubbish. Thus very disingenuous and unauthentic.
Ignorantia juris non excusat:
Yes, by all means post and quote the all the stats, numbers and pages and pages of criminal documentation, laws and rules that are in the US and are shockingly and suddenly, relevant to Repub's rants on crime. But in case you have figured it out yet, this is the very reason (unfortunately), why lawyers exist. Ignorantia juris non excusat! (Ignorance of the Law is No Defense!)
Isn't it always funny how, you Trump apologists and multi-millionaire, billionaire and white-collar apologists, love to get up on your high horse and turn a blind eye to white collar crime, while simultaneously love to rant, bloviate and pound the table, religiously when it comes to blue collar crime. Almost as if to say, white collar crime should get a pass!
What you Moscow Marjories and Russia's most "useful idiots", fail to realize, is that much of the criminal code written (over time) or in the past several decades, was written by "white-collar" lawmakers, primarily for "blue-collar" workers, or put into law by upper-class citizens to keep lower-class citizens in check. It's only when these same criminal laws and statutes are now being applied to them, that we see an outcry to abandon, "The Rule of Law", "the DOJ and criminal justice system are corrupt/unfair" or an outcry to "defund the FBI" ...etc.
The fact is, White-collar crime has EXPLODED! You see it among the elites and billionaires around the world. You see it with high ranking officials, like with several of our SCOTUS justices. We've seen it with an unhinged ex-president in Trump, who led a violent QAnon/MAGA mob, in a seditious and treasonous insurrection.
So when white-collar crime is being defending by their apologists, it often comes with the ill-conceived foolish notion that white-collar crime is "victimless" crime and therefore "no harm, no foul" and no punishment should be applied.
But people like Trump, knew he was committing a crime, because he had the benefit of highly paid lawyers, telling him as much. OVER and OVER and OVER again! For decades, his lawyers have been advising him on what is and isn't criminal behavior w/r to the Law. And for decades he's operated in criminal behavior, UNCHECKED! Until now that is!
But much like one of my fav. fables, "The Scorpion and the Frog",...Trump the serial liar and serial criminal, just can't help himself, "...it's in his nature".
And what is so evident from all of Trump's trials, is that Trump loves to hire corrupt, unethical and unscrupulous lawyers. So he can commit criminal behavior and then throw his gullible corrupt lawyers "under the bus", for his criminal acts. The US jails are littered with Trump's ex-lawyers.
But dear ol' Donald, always thinks he the "smartest cat" in the room. He's be been peddling in criminal behavior for decades, and his comeuppance may have finally arrived.
However, Americans now know and have come to realize that, Trump LISTENS TO KNOW ONE! ...WHY?
Because he, Trump, thinks he's ABOVE THE LAW! And I'm sure, many of you, Trump and billionaire apologists, think they are too!
Elvis 2008
06-16-24, 02:10
You've written some good posts recently Elvis. My main point of disagreement is that most board members posting in this thread are not douches, but rather people who've been sadly and unduly influenced by Democratic Party propaganda.Good to hear from you Tiny. But first off, I have to disagree with you. If you are a monger and think of yourself and others here as "law abiding citizens" then you are an arrogant douche regardless of party affiliation. If you are promoting "rule of law" when mongering versus innocent until proven guilty or reasonable doubt, then you are a hypocrite. I think several here are under the delusion that government likes them while hating other mongers.
I made a Jewish-PLO analogy with the Trump case but there is a better one in the monger world. The two witnesses against you are a hooker who will say or do anything for a buck and her jailed pimp who will say or do anything to get out of jail. Literally anything those two said should constitute reasonable doubt. So it is crazy for a monger to being cheering on a conviction based on testimony from people like that. They both lied and were caught lying. The only way a monger can cheer on a victory like that is the arrogance that they will not be charged like that is a similar fashion, and that too is being a douche without regards to party affiliation. If your ego is in check, you should not be cheering this on but be petrified that the same could happen to you. You have to buy into the delusion of "rule of law" and the delusion that you are "law abiding" to be happy with it.
If you have read those books, you know that law is grey. Law comes not just from legislative bodies, but also from judges and from administrative bodies, and they often contradict one another. If I am on a jury then, I am not focused on "rule of law" but what is best for us as a society. Ironically, apparently, the jury was 6 to 6 which was probably broken down among party lines at first and within a day they were unanimous. If you go by "rule of law", Hunter Biden is guilty as fuck, and I think that is what the Democratic jurors were convinced of.
But you do not see Republicans jumping up and down about Hunter being convicted. You see this https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1800550481481146847: Hunter Biden being convicted of a firearms charge is the ultimate red herring of red herrings. The DOJ allowed the statute of limitations expire on his most serious tax charges, buried evidence of the Bidens' foreign bribery allegations, and attempted to give Hunter a sweetheart deal with broad immunity. David Weiss wouldn't go after him on the serious tax charges or on FARA because all of that would lead back to the shady business dealings involving his father. Instead, they went after him for a much lesser charge, where the evidence was way too insurmountable to ignore, so they can scream "nobody is above the law" when they put President Trump in jail.
Why are we so upset about foreign governments, when the worst election manipulators are in our own government? I would much prefer the Democratic douches stop prosecuting Republicans out of this bullshit that was let slide before like FARA and contempt of Congress, but if you are going to use this rule of law bullshit, we will too.
Thing is with "rule of law", it seems like the law preventing Hunter from owning a gun violates the 2nd amendment, but this case arguably the best Hunter had to defend himself with, was stripped away by the judge. So the while Hunter matter was not "rule of law" but choosing to go after which law he broke and tossing the laws that contradict with the case you are bringing.
To strike away the 2nd amendment with Hunter shows how much power judges have, and a lot of them are fucking nuts. To say the judges in any of these NY cases were not compromised is a joke. The thing is in the two civil cases the judges got away with their BS.
In this case, the guilty verdict was not well received. What would have destroyed any other pol did not damage Trump at all, and there is evidence it helped him. Like with Hunter and the 2nd amendment, the judge had to make preliminary rulings that removed contradictory laws to move the case forward. That is Trump's wrong doing was a misdemeanor and the statue of limitations is 2 years. If you follow "rule of law" and custom then, the Trump case is never brought because the statue of limitations lapsed.
But have you noticed Tiny no one is referring to Trump as a "convicted felon" much. This is when I get into conspiracy mode. If you are a Democratic douche engaging in herd think as they all do, the comment that was left on the Supreme Court's Facebook page does not matter. It was just some idiot poster. It was actually put up and then deleted after the fact, but it really was huge. The fact that the Supreme Court brought that to the judge's attention and the judge sent out a letter means the case will probably be a mistrial.
At the federal level, any instance of juror misconduct will result in a mistrial and the government has to prove the jury was not tainted. With NY courts, they can do a little more investigating but not much more. If the NY court system wanted this jury decision to stand, then they would have ignored the comment.
But jury misconduct like so many other laws is sporadically enforced. Hell, the whole jury on the OJ case had their bags packed up before the case went into deliberations. Before the jury even convened, they knew their fellow jurors were voting not guilty.
Honestly, I thought we had already been through this shit. We got around prostitution laws by paying for time and giving gifts versus paying directly for sex. Then the government changed it such that prostitution and human trafficking were synonymous and they started arresting boat loads of mongers. The laws passed by Congress were minor in comparison to how LE interpreted human trafficking.
You look at the definition of human trafficking and within the definition is using money to coerce women into having sex with you. I have to wonder how many douches look at that and think that definition does not apply to them.
It's really funny how some people are willing to throw stones from the comfort of their glass houses. One would presume they should be very, very quiet due to glaring Trump's own mental issues, but alas.
From another thread:
Biden Is Getting Older. Trump Is Losing His Mind.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/biden-getting-older-trump-losing-mind
Trump, Dementia, Collective Pathology
https://kenmcgoogan.com/2024/05/17/trump-dementia-collective-pathology
This is that damning petition McGoogan is talking about, and it's currently signed by nearly 2,500 licensed mental health professionals (3 weeks ago it was signed by 1,900 people).
Our Diagnostic Impression of Trump is Probable Dementia: For Licensed Professionals Only
https://www.change.org/p/our-diagnostic-impression-of-trump-is-probable-dementia-for-licensed-professionals-onlyThat is a thoroughly credible, unbiased, professional assessment of the alarming things we have been seeing and hearing from the unscripted and, well, even heavily scripted and telepromptered Donald Trump over the past 9+ years.
That is why his being banned from Facebook and Xitter in the past as well as the recent unavoidable criminal trial gag orders were all only helpful to his poll numbers and, in 2016, to his theft of that election. Typically pro Repub Mainstream Media were only helping Trump steal that election by not televising every minute and every word of every one of his rallies from the very beginning and they knew it.
By sharp contrast, the only thing the Trump Cult members can come up with as "evidence" of Joe Biden's non existant dementia are AI replications and tightly edited videos of him momentarily stepping away from the group at the G7 meeting to give a thumbs up and say something complimentary to the men in uniform.
And, no, proposing, fighting for and passing legislation and programs that led The World to and became the Crown Jewel of recovery from the historic, unprecedented death and economic destruction of Trump's Pandemic is not a "sign" of dementia.
Everybody knows that is all the Trump Cult members have got, all they can do. Which is why Merrick Garland is right not to give them the audio recording of Biden's interview with Hur. If they want to make up shit about Biden's mental acuity they will have to work harder with some AI tools rather than just tightly edit, twist and mangle the audio of his actual voice.
And, guaranteed, what Biden said when he walked over to those paratroopers was unscripted, no teleprompter, perfectly appropriate to the moment and pertinent to what the paratroopers had just done and nothing about being bitten by electrified sharks.
Another good post Elvis. A couple of comments.
Good to hear from you Tiny. But first off, I have to disagree with you. If you are a monger and think of yourself and others here as "law abiding citizens" then you are an arrogant douche regardless of party affiliation. If you are promoting "rule of law" when mongering versus innocent until proven guilty or reasonable doubt, then you are a hypocrite. I think several here are under the delusion that government likes them while hating other mongers... If your ego is in check, you should not be cheering this on but be petrified that the same could happen to you. You have to buy into the delusion of "rule of law" and the delusion that you are "law abiding" to be happy with it.Absolutely. The easiest analogies with respect to the topics at hand are E. Jean Carroll's 88 million award for an unproven sexual assault that occurred almost 30 years ago. And the 34 felony convictions for trying to cover up his sexual assignations with Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. There but for the grace of God go I. In the state where we live, seeing a prostitute is now a state jail felony.
If you have read those books, you know that law is grey. Law comes not just from legislative bodies, but also from judges and from administrative bodies, and they often contradict one another. If I am on a jury then, I am not focused on "rule of law" but what is best for us as a society. Yeah, that's what you and I would focus on as civil libertarians, but that's not the way the justice system works. The second we admit that we're unwilling to enforce stupid laws relevant to a case, we'd be struck from the jury. You're left with a group of 12 people who are going to follow the Almighty Law, regardless of what it says.
The DOJ allowed the statute of limitations expire on his most serious tax charges, buried evidence of the Bidens' foreign bribery allegations, and attempted to give Hunter a sweetheart deal with broad immunity. David Weiss wouldn't go after him on the serious tax charges or on FARA because all of that would lead back to the shady business dealings involving his father. Instead, they went after him for a much lesser charge, where the evidence was way too insurmountable to ignore, so they can scream "nobody is above the law" when they put President Trump in jail.
Why are we so upset about foreign governments, when the worst election manipulators are in our own government? I would much prefer the Democratic douches stop prosecuting Republicans out of this bullshit that was let slide before like FARA and contempt of Congress, but if you are going to use this rule of law bullshit, we will too.I agree and disagree. Yes, the reason Weiss was appointed was because the DOJ was caught proposing a sweetheart deal on tax charges. Yes, the DOJ allowed the statute of limitations to expire. However, I don't think Joe himself was bribed, although he did play along with Hunter's extraction of payments from foreign individuals and companies looking to whitewash crimes and bad behavior. Burisma is a great example. Was the Ukrainian government going after Mykola Zlochevsky (owner of Burisma), who transferred valuable oil and gas permits to his own company when he was Minister of Natural Resources? Well, as long as the son of the Vice President of the United States was on his board, hell no.
To strike away the 2nd amendment with Hunter shows how much power judges have, and a lot of them are fucking nuts. To say the judges in any of these NY cases were not compromised is a joke. The thing is in the two civil cases the judges got away with their BS.Engoron was nuts. The $455 million was beyond the pale, and New York Appeals courts struck down several of his rulings and lowered the amount of the bond required for appeal. Merchan was not nuts, but I believe he was biased. He gave the jury three ways to magically convert misdemeanor charges into felonies. I'm not familiar with the comment on the Supreme Court's facebook page.
Probably unlike you, I believe there are grounds to find Trump guilty in the Washington D.C. and Fulton County, Georgia cases. The New York cases on the other hand were plain stupid. Leticia James and Alvin Bragg made campaign promises to prosecute Trump and they kept them. Eighty seven percent of Manhattan voters went for Biden in 2020. Trump didn't have a chance.
So the Winger Murdoch-owned WSJ "report" with the headline:
Behind Closed Doors, Biden Shows Signs of Slipping.
Participants in meetings said the 81-year-old president performed poorly at times. The White House said Biden is sharp and his critics are playing partisan politics.
Is obviously fair and balanced according to you because somewhere in the "report" they threw in some "Bothsider" pabulum about Trump too.
....When the WSJ features a headline like that about Donald covfefe, WWII is coming, I nearly escaped death, that photo of my sexual assault victim is of my wife, a failed teleprompter always means it's Sharknado Week, CEOs he addressed say he meandered and didn't know what he was talking about (a claim never made about Biden) Trump and then Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group's local news outlet anchors repeat the most election-damaging phrases from it in parrot-like mimicry around the country sometime between now and November 5, please post the links for it here.You lost me there, everything after covfefe except the shark incident. The article in question wasn't biased. Wall Street Journal news reporting is not biased. The Wall Street Journal editorial pages on the other hand are often very biased. I agree with them more often than not.
You lost me there, everything after covfefe except the shark incident. The article in question wasn't biased. Wall Street Journal news reporting is not biased. The Wall Street Journal editorial pages on the other hand are often very biased. I agree with them more often than not.You don't know anything about Trump blathering about how WWII is coming any minute now as a big dramatic closer for one of his fund raising events?
Nothing about him grandly announcing in writing that he "nearly escaped death", which means he is dead now BTW, in another of his fund raising efforts because he was 1,100 miles away from where the duly and routinely armed FBI agents searched his home / hotel in Mar-a-Lardo as was fully prearranged by all parties?
Nothing about him repeatedly misidentifying a photo of his sexual assault victim in the Carroll case as a photo of his wife, Marla?
Nothing about the corporate CEOs at a demonstrably GOP-friendly business meeting with Trump commenting that he meandered through it, seemed not to know what he was talking about?
Really?
Then I rest my case that Winger-owned media outlets like The Wall Street Journal at the national level and Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group at the local level have tried very hard and succeeded in keeping their patrons in a pro Trump, anti Biden media bubble.
So sad that many, many of the people Trump knows and hires to represent him, work with him in his time as an expert at bankrupting companies, losing millions if not billions of other people's money, producing his well deserved and well earned bi-partisan historian rating as The Worst President Ever and so on eventually turn on him or fail miserably to overcome his apparently insurmountable drive to produce utter catastrophe and turn everything he touches into shit right before it dies.
He really should have hired Elvis and Tiny to defend him in these recent civil and criminal trials.
Sure, he still would have lost 80+ Million in at least that one civil trial, the penalty of which was not about him sexually assaulting her. That was only $5 Million of it. No, it was about him not being able to keep his dementia rattled pie hole closed about it and refrain from continually tormenting and defaming her about it.
And sure, he still would have been convicted of all 34 of those Felonies because it was proven conclusively by all of the written documentation, written description of the crime by one of Trump's conspirators and all the sworn under oath testimony that the Hush Money payments, which were not the crimes he was charged with, and the criminally false business recording of them were fully and exclusively done in order to commit Election Fraud, a big criminal no-no in New York State, and to steal the 2016 Election, a further big criminal no-no in New York State.
But Elvis' and Tinys' repeated misrepresentation of what the actual civil awards, indictments and crimes were about are not what would have made them better choices than the attorneys Trump hired and who are no doubt destined to be stiffed on their fees and / or disbarred for whatever additional crime Trump lured them into along the way.
No, it is because it would have been fun to witness them struggling to make it all seem falsely equivalent to engaging in legal P4 P in Thailand or just a long ago misunderstanding about what unwanted and uninvited pussy grabbing and penetration really is in practice or some such nonsense. LOL.
Like the majority of Americans, I believe Biden is more senile than Trump. And Trump is nuttier than Biden. You don't have to choose between them though. You just need to come to the realization that, even if you live in a battleground state, your vote won't count. One vote won't make a difference.
I'll be voting for Libertarian Chase Oliver. He's 37 years old and "armed and gay. " What's not to like about that? Oliver is the best general election candidate since Gary Johnson in 2016.
It's really funny how some people are willing to throw stones from the comfort of their glass houses. One would presume they should be very, very quiet due to glaring Trump's own mental issues, but alas.
From another thread:
Biden Is Getting Older. Trump Is Losing His Mind.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/biden-getting-older-trump-losing-mind
Trump, Dementia, Collective Pathology
https://kenmcgoogan.com/2024/05/17/trump-dementia-collective-pathology
This is that damning petition McGoogan is talking about, and it's currently signed by nearly 2,500 licensed mental health professionals (3 weeks ago it was signed by 1,900 people).
Our Diagnostic Impression of Trump is Probable Dementia: For Licensed Professionals Only
https://www.change.org/p/our-diagnostic-impression-of-trump-is-probable-dementia-for-licensed-professionals-only
You don't know anything about Trump blathering about how WWII is coming any minute now as a big dramatic closer for one of his fund raising events?
Nothing about him grandly announcing in writing that he "nearly escaped death", which means he is dead now BTW, in another of his fund raising efforts because he was 1,100 miles away from where the duly and routinely armed FBI agents searched his home / hotel in Mar-a-Lardo as was fully prearranged by all parties?
Nothing about him repeatedly misidentifying a photo of his sexual assault victim in the Carroll case as a photo of his wife, Marla?
Nothing about the corporate CEOs at a demonstrably GOP-friendly business meeting with Trump commenting that he meandered through it, seemed not to know what he was talking about?
Really?
Then I rest my case that Winger-owned media outlets like The Wall Street Journal at the national level and Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group at the local level have tried very hard and succeeded in keeping their patrons in a pro Trump, anti Biden media bubble.When you break your paragraphs up into sentences and put more thought into what you're writing, like you did in this post, you make more sense.
Listened to Scaramucci on rick wilson on youtube about how it may be different than how things are portrayed with polls and media.
Thanks for the heads-up! Although I was expecting more talk on polls, beyond just the 30 sec in first and last 3-mins, of the video.
I thought their insight was very interesting. One of them said that in 2016, people didn't want to say they were voting for Trump out of fear of being alienated by their family / friends. Now in 2024, pretty much all the people who are going to vote for Trump, within the Republican party, are very much outspoken. And those who do not plan to vote for him, are in a state of silence out of fear of MAGA. I believe this to be true as well.
So I think he will have fewer votes than he did in 2020, and possibly even less than 2016. Time will tell. That's why I tell everyone to vote, don't care who they vote for. Just do it.
Pollsters and media like to have a close match. Ratings / revenues are better for it. They have a reason to keep things close.
Good to see, they are just as concerned about the Repub zealots and fanatics, surrounding Project 2025. And nothing good say about spinless Kevin McCarthy. I mean nothing! (....kkkk!)
What did come as a bit of a surprise was when Scaramucci says "...Trump didn't think he was gonna win. Trump did not expect to win...". He goes on to say that, "...on election night (Nov 8th, 2016) at 6pm, Trump says tomorrow he's looking forward to moving his plane to JFK from from LaGuardia (in order to fly out internationally), to play golf in Scotland at his new golf course."
That's how much Trump was looking forward to running the country and defending the free world...golf! Which again goes to the notion, that Trump cares nothing for America and all the ceremonial flag hugging, he does, is all just a farce and pure theater, for the gullible QAnon/MAGA cult.
If you have read those books, you know that law is grey. Law comes not just from legislative bodies, but also from judges and from administrative bodies, and they often contradict one another. If I am on a jury then, I am not focused on "rule of law" but what is best for us as a society.
Yeah, that's what you and I would focus on as civil libertarians, but that's not the way the justice system works. The second we admit that we're unwilling to enforce stupid laws relevant to a case, we'd be struck from the jury. You're left with a group of 12 people who are going to follow the Almighty Law, regardless of what it says.
Yeah, right! Dare I say you guys sound like a bunch of bleeding liberals (....kkkk!) Isn't it funny, how so many of you die-hard "law and order" Repubs, turn into libs, the moment the law rules against you.
What ever happen to the adjudicating the trial/case, based on the facts and evidence, presented before you, as a juror?
...I am not focused on "rule of law" but what is best for us as a society. (...kkkk!) As if you would know! (...kkkk!) Pure hubris! (...kkkk!)
Thanks for the heads-up! Although I was expecting more talk on polls, beyond just the 30 sec in first and last 3-mins, of the video.
Good to see, they are just as concerned about the Repub zealots and fanatics, surrounding Project 2025. And nothing good say about spinless Kevin McCarthy. I mean nothing! (....kkkk!)
What did come as a bit of a surprise was when Scaramucci says "...Trump didn't think he was gonna win. Trump did not expect to win...". He goes on to say that, "...on election night (Nov 8th, 2016) at 6pm, Trump says tomorrow he's looking forward to moving his plane to JFK from from LaGuardia (in order to fly out internationally), to play golf in Scotland at his new golf course."
That's how much Trump was looking forward to running the country and defending the free world...golf! Which again goes to the notion, that Trump cares nothing for America and all the ceremonial flag hugging, he does, is all just a farce and pure theater, for the gullible QAnon/MAGA cult.That is the immutable pattern throughout the past 100 years.
Every incoming Repub taking over from an outgoing Dem has had exactly the same level of ease and luxury as Trump had after election day to either do absolutely nothing but plan a Gala Inauguration Ball, choosing the color scheme, table center piece decorations, entertainment and what not or start marking their calenders for the next 4 years of golfing, pony riding, golfing and sleeping, clearing brush down at the ranch, golfing, golfing, sleeping, sleeping and golfing.
Because the State of the Union at the end of any Dem presidential term is that stable and with all important factors on an improving trajectory and there is damn little the incoming Repub really needs to do in much of a hurry. Don't Worry, Be Happy.
And that, of course, comes at the end of a take no prisoners MSM-aided Repub Campaign of fake descriptions of American Carnage, skyrocketing crime rates, caravans of disease-ridden mutants invading our borders, abject poverty everywhere, empty shelves at grocery stores, no food, no water, life in America has never been worse. LOL.
But first, a few months of golfing and ridin' ponies. Lolol.
Contrast that with the horrific conditions incoming Dems have faced almost without exception at the end result of virtually every outgoing Repub presidency. Good lord. MSM and the American people are snapping at their heels, demanding they do something to fix this unprecedented, colossal Once in 100 Years Economic and / or National Security Disaster! And they want if fixed TODAY or there will be heads on sticks TOMORROW! LOL.
And no incoming Dems taking over from outgoing Repubs in the midst the typical horrific Repub presidential results had as great a challenge to repair those unprecedented Repub Disasters yet met that challenge and exceeded all reasonable expectations for recovery as did FDR, Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
And that is an inarguable historical fact.
Yeah, right! Dare I say you guys sound like a bunch of bleeding liberals (....kkkk!) Isn't it funny, how so many of you die-hard "law and order" Repubs, turn into libs, the moment the law rules against you.
What ever happen to the adjudicating the trial/case, based on the facts and evidence, presented before you, as a juror?
(...kkkk!) As if you would know! (...kkkk!) Pure hubris! (...kkkk!)I'll wear that badge with honor. I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. You're not a liberal. You're a partisan Democrat.
Please see my post below:
As Silverglate has written, this issue is much bigger than just Biden and Trump. And for that matter it's even bigger than what Silverglate writes about. How many young, black American men are in jail who shouldn't be? How many people have been executed who never should have been? We historically have had the highest or close to the highest incarceration rate in the world. The prosecutors are out of control.And please point to where I said Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton or any other Democrat should be jailed. If I were dictator, fewer Democrats would be in jail. I wouldn't even lock up Menendez, unless he violated probation.
Would you lock up Trump for the Stormy Daniels/Karen McDougal charges?
Sincerely,
Bleeding Heart Liberal Tiny.
There is no "Joe Biden counterpart" to this. None.
Let's Talk About Trump's Gibberish.
What the former president's shark tirade says about American politics and media.
By Tom Nichols
June 12,2024.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/06/trump-sharks-las-vegas-rally-speech/678667/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=edit-promo
Perhaps the greatest trick Donald Trump ever pulled was convincing millions of people and the American media to treat his lapses into fantasies and gibberish as a normal, meaningful form of oratory. But Trump is not a normal person, and his speeches are not normal political events.
For too long, Trump has gotten away with pretending that his emotional issues are just part of some offbeat New York charm or an expression of his enthusiasm for public performance. But Trump is obviously unfit and something is profoundly wrong with a political environment in which he can now say almost anything, no matter how weird, and his comments will get a couple of days of coverage and then a shrug, as if to say: Another day, another Trump rant about sharks.
Wait, what?
Yes, sharks. In Las Vegas on Sunday, Trump went off-script. I have to assume that no competent speechwriter would have drafted this and riffed on the important question of how to electrocute a shark while one attacks. He had been talking, he claims, to someone about electric boats: "I say, 'What would happen if the boat sank from its weight and you're in the boat, and you have this tremendously powerful battery, and the battery's now underwater, and there's a shark that's approximately 10 yards over there?
As usual, Trump noted how much he impressed his interlocutor with his very smart hypothetical: "And he said, 'Nobody ever asks this question,' and it must be because of MIT, my relationship to MIT. Very smart. " (MIT? Trump's uncle taught there and retired over a half century ago, when Trump was in his 20's, and died in 1985. Trump often implies that his uncle passed on MIT's brainpower by genetic osmosis or something.).
This ramble went on for a bit longer, until Trump made it clear that given his choice, he'the rather be zapped instead of eaten: "But you know what I'the do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted? I'll take electrocution every single time. I'm not getting near the shark. So we're going to end that, we're going to end it for boats, we're going to end it for trucks. ".
Hopefully, this puts to rest any pressing questions among Americans about the presumptive Republican nominee's feelings on electric vehicles and their relationship to at least two gruesome ways to die.
Sure, it seems funnyHaha! Uncle Don is telling that crazy shark story again! Until we remember that this man wants to return to a position where he would hold America's secrets, be responsible for the execution of our laws, and preside as the commander in chief of the most powerful military in the world. A moment that seems like oddball humor should, in fact, terrify any American voter, because this behavior in anyone else would be an instant disqualification for any political office, let alone the presidency. (Actually, a delusional, rambling felon known to have owned weapons would likely fail a security check for even a visit to the Oval Office.).
Nor was the Vegas monologue the first time: Trump for years has fallen off one verbal cliff after another, with barely a ripple in the national consciousness. I am not a psychiatrist, and I am not diagnosing Trump with anything. I am, however, a man who has lived on this Earth for more than 60 years, and I know someone who has serious emotional problems when I see them played out in front of me, over and over. The 45th president is a disturbed person. He cannot be trusted with any position of responsibilityand especially not with a nuclear arsenal of more than 1,500 weapons. One wrong move could lead to global incineration.
Why hasn't there been more sustained and serious attention paid to Trump's emotional state?
First, Trump's target audience is used to him. Watch the silence that descends over the crowds at such moments; when Trump wanders off into the recesses of his own mind, they chit-chat or check their phones or look around, waiting for him to come back and offer them an applause line. For them, it's all just part of the show.
Second, Trump's staff tries to put just enough policy fiber into Trump's nutty verbal souffls that they can always sell a talking point later, as if his off-ramps from reality are merely tiny bumps in otherwise sensible speeches. Trump himself occasionally seems surprised when these policy nuggets pop up in a speech; when reading the teleprompter, he sometimes adds comments such as "so true, so true," perhaps because he's encountering someone else's words for the first time and agreeing with them. Thus, they will later claim that questions about sharks or long-dead uncles are just bad-faith distractions from substance. (These are the same Republicans who claim that every verbal stumble from Joe Biden indicates full-blown dementia.).
Third, and perhaps most concerning in terms of public discussion, many people in the media have fallen under the spell of the Jedi hand-waves from Trump and his people that none of this is as disturbing and weird as it sounds. The refs have been worked: A significant segment of the media and even the Democratic Party has bought into a Republican narrative that asking whether Trump is mentally unstable is somehow biased and elitist, the kind of thing that could only occur to Beltway mandarins who don't understand how the candidate talks to normal people.
Such objections are mendacious nonsense and represent a massive double standard. As Eugene Robinson of The Washington Post wrote today: "It is irresponsible to obsess over President Biden's tendency to mangle a couple of words in a speech while Donald Trump is out there sounding detached from reality. " Biden's mush-mouthed moments fall well within the range of normal gaffes. Had he or any other American politician said anything even remotely like one of Trump's bizarre digressions, we would be flooded with front-page stories about it. Pundits would be solemnly calling for a Much Needed National Conversation about the Twenty-Fifth Amendment.
It is long past time for anyone who isn't in the Trump base to admit, and to keep talking about, something that has been obvious for years: Donald Trump is unstable. Some of these problems were evident when he first ran, and we now know from revelations by many of his former staff that his problems processing information and staying tethered to reality are not part of some hammy act.
Worse, the people who once managed Trump's cognitive and emotional issues are gone, never to return. A second Trump White House will be staffed with the bottom of the barrel the opportunists and hangers-on willing to work for a reprehensible man. His Oval Office will be empty of responsible and experienced public servants if the day comes when someone has to explain to him why war might be about to erupt on the Korean peninsula or why the Russian or Chinese nuclear forces have gone on alert, and he starts talking about frying sharks with boat batteries.
The 45th president is deeply unwell. It is long past time for Americans, including those in public life, to recognize his inability to serve as the 47th.
I'll wear that badge with honor. I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. ...
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Sincerely,
Bleeding Heart Liberal Tiny.
I'm sure you do, Tiny 12, wear it with honor, but does Elvis 2008?
BTW, congratulations on coming out of the closet! I'd like to see you keep that same energy on a number of other social liberal issues.
You're not a liberal. You're a partisan Democrat.
So now you're telling me what I am? That's mighty big of you!
So tell me, does you're "all knowing" god complex, care to tell me, what Elvis 2008 is? Or any other ISGer is, for that matter?
Please see my post below:
And please point to where I said Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton or any other Democrat should be jailed. If I were dictator, fewer Democrats would be in jail. I wouldn't even lock up Menendez, unless he violated probation. (...kkkk) For decades, the Repub's mantra and whole philosophy has been to advocate and position itself as the party of "law and order". But it's plainly obvious, this philosophy only applies when "the law" (or LE), is not against them.
Would you lock up Trump for the Stormy Daniels/Karen McDougal charges? Trump was convicted, based on the facts and evidence presented, was he not?
Personally, it's good to see The Rule of Law, has held up to its billing and not some kind of twisted Republican version, of what they think the law should be, or to whom is should ONLY apply.
A Rule of Law, that holds true to itself, is one where everyone is accountable and NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!
If you guys really believe the shit you're shoveling, then get out and fight for a change and more equality, in unjust laws, a criminal justice system and police brutality!
Like the majority of Americans, I believe Biden is more senile than Trump. And Trump is nuttier than Biden. You don't have to choose between them though. You just need to come to the realization that, even if you live in a battleground state, your vote won't count. One vote won't make a difference.
I'll be voting for Libertarian Chase Oliver. He's 37 years old and "armed and gay. " What's not to like about that? Oliver is the best general election candidate since Gary Johnson in 2016.After a cursory search I didn't find any evidence that "the majority of Americans" believes "Biden is more senile than Trump" while "Trump is nuttier than Biden. " By the way, that's a cute choice of words because senility always means a mental condition, while "nuttiness" can mean a variety of things including some positive character traits.
The problem with your assessment is that thousands of mental health professionals seem to strongly disagree with you.
As for the second part of your post, it leaves me baffled. Why even bother voting for Oliver when according to your own logic, your vote won't count. Like won't count at all because his chance of becoming president is precisely zero?
Elvis 2008
06-16-24, 21:03
However, I don't think Joe himself was bribedThere was no definitive proof but that is what an investigation would have been for. Anyway, an investigation into that is never going to happen.
Probably unlike you, I believe there are grounds to find Trump guilty in the Washington D.C. and Fulton County, Georgia cases. The New York cases on the other hand were plain stupid. Leticia James and Alvin Bragg made campaign promises to prosecute Trump and they kept them. Eighty seven percent of Manhattan voters went for Biden in 2020. Trump didn't have a chance.If Fani Willis would have put more time into getting Trump rather than flying all over the place with her paid escort, Trump would have had a second guilty verdict. With that judge, that prosecutor, and a Fulton County jury, Trump had a better chance of being found innocent in Manhattan.
Tiny, I do not know if you saw the Republican party hearing on the SOS Brad Raffensperger. To the Dems here, it was a show just to blast him because Trump did not win, but the reality is there were all kind of voting irregularities in Georgia. The person heading the committee stopped the woman listing the offenses after three or four and said, "we get the idea". It was sooo bad. Of all the areas that were rigged / questionable, Georgia was the worst, and everyone knows it. So was Trump guilty? IMO No. Would have he been found guilty? Hell yes.
With the federal case, if you apply the "rule of law", Trump is totally guilty. The problem is how do you apply the law to Trump and not Pence, not HRC, not Biden and not Obama. The notion that the FBI was totally and 100% down with this SWAT team rolling into Mar-a-lago is pure BS.
Bloomberg did a FOIA and this is what they found: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-03-15/trump-documents-raid-at-mar-a-lago-sparked-protest-from-fbi-employees.
"Did this really just happen? Am I dreaming? The FBI served a Search Warrant on a former president?" wrote an incredulous bureau employee in an email that was sent to the FBI's acting ombudsman, Chauncenette Morey, shortly after the Mar-a-Lago search. "If he took documents, give him a call and ask for them back. Like. Seriously? My own agency. A bunch of democrat political hacks up top. I've lost just about all faith in our leadership. Obviously they forgot Crossfire Hurricane. ".
Another wrote, "What is the predication of the warrant? It better be more than putting a few documents in the archives or classified material the man could have easily declassified.
The documents mention one threat that received widespread media attention: a Navy veteran armed with an AR-15 who said on social media days after the Mar-a-Lago search that federal agents should be killed "on sight. " he died in a shootout with a state trooper in Ohio after he tried to breach the FBI's Cincinnati field office.
And the response? The director sent a really nice letter but all it really said was "trust us".
End of link.
So yeah, Trump broke the law, but it is a law that is treated with grace when you are a former president, and you have the issue with Jack Smith not being a government employee being appointed as special prosecutor, mishandling of documents, a warrant that was not limited in scope, and sending in FBI agents in plan clothes to a place where the SS is duty bound to protect and the FBI authorized to use deadly force. We are lucky there was not a shootout and for what? Whatever is in those documents, Trump has infinitely more government secrets in his head. And trust us after all this? Bleech!
If there was a jury, they would not be shown the documents. It will be just trust us there were vital secrets within these documents and even though Trump is guilty, I would find some way to inject reasonable doubt because this is such banana republic shit, but it is not going to come to that. There have been multiple motions to dismiss the case and after the election, the judge will force the prosecution into a settlement which will probably be a fine in order to save face.
After a cursory search I didn't find any evidence that "the majority of Americans" believes "Biden is more senile than Trump" while "Trump is nuttier than Biden. " By the way, that's a cute choice of words because senility always means a mental condition, while "nuttiness" can mean a variety of things including some positive character traits.
The problem with your assessment is that thousands of mental health professionals seem to strongly disagree with you.
As for the second part of your post, it leaves me baffled. Why even bother voting for Oliver when according to your own logic, your vote won't count. Like won't count at all because his chance of becoming president is precisely zero?Unless Tiny lives in a definite No Toss Up blue or red state, his Third Party, No Party or Write-in vote will essentially be for Trump, as he well knows. Under that same scenario, if he chooses not to vote at all he will essentially be voting for Trump. And he knows that very well, too.
Yeah, yeah, some argument can be made that such a vote might actually help Biden more than Trump. But not likely. Not by most Battleground State calculations at least.
In Winger World, nobody votes for a Third Party, No Party, a Write-in or chooses not to vote at all if they honestly believe there is even a 1 in 1000 chance their doing so will result in a Dem winning. And most definitely not if it means Biden winning over Trump. That is not happening in Winger World.
As part of our ongoing series to answer the question, "Are Americans Too Dumb To Understand The Economy"?
This just in:
How immigrants are helping keep job growth hot while inflation cools.
June 17, 2024
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/17/immigrants-help-economy-job-growth-inflation.html?__source=androidappshare
Immigration has helped the U.S. job market sustain a fiery run in recent months without reigniting inflation, economists and analysts say.
The U.S. economy added a whopping 272,000 jobs in May, but the consumer price index was unchanged.
This dynamic a hot job market and cooling inflation is in part the result of increased inflows of immigrants.
Recent spikes in immigration at the southern border and elsewhere in the U.S. have helped to keep the labor pool full even as job gains kept apace.
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Immigration both authorized and unauthorized has helped the U.S. job market sustain a fiery run in recent months without reigniting inflation, economists and analysts say. The effect has been a favorable, though uncertain, situation for President Joe Biden ahead of the November election.Also, it's too bad the dumbest Americans regarding the economy, Trump voters in Red states, caused inflation to go so high and stay higher longer than it would have if only they had not "expected" inflation to do that.
If Red State / Trumpsters had not done that, this research study endorsed even by the Winger-ownd WSJ concluded that inflation would have topped out at a mere 5% and today would be 1. 7%.
Trump Voters Dont Just Expect Higher InflationThey Get It Too.
There has always been a difference between how Republicans and Democrats view the economy. But the gap has gotten bigger.
May 25, 2024
https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/inflation-differs-republican-democrat-states-data-14800c1e
Republicans right now think inflation is a much bigger problem than Democrats do, and a lot of that is just politics. But heres another possibility: Many of the places Republicans live indeed have had significantly higher inflation than Democratic enclaves.
In new research, economists Carola Binder, Rupal Kamdar and Jane Ryngaert examined Labor Department inflation figures for U.S. metropolitan areas, and compared them with voting data. Their finding: Metro areas with more Republicans and independent voters tended to have higher inflation in 2022 than places where Democrats...
As part of our ongoing series to answer the question, "Are Americans Too Dumb To Understand The Economy"?
This just in:
How immigrants are helping keep job growth hot while inflation cools.
June 17, 2024
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/17/immigrants-help-economy-job-growth-inflation.html?__source=androidappshareRight you are Tooms. Sending 10 million illegals back to Latin America when unemployment is sub 4% is insane. I favor moving illegals into a guest worker program that would not confer citizenship. And expanding legal immigration of the best and the brightest.
Many Democrats favor conferring citizenship on immigrants who didn't enter through normal channels, because they believe the immigrants will vote for Democrats. They may be mistaken. A large number of the people coming now are refugees from Cuba and Venezuela. They've seen first hand how big, overbearing government works, and they don't like it.
Also, it's too bad the dumbest Americans regarding the economy, Trump voters in Red states, caused inflation to go so high and stay higher longer than it would have if only they had not "expected" inflation to do that.
If Red State / Trumpsters had not done that, this research study endorsed even by the Winger-ownd WSJ concluded that inflation would have topped out at a mere 5% and today would be 1. 7%.
Trump Voters Dont Just Expect Higher InflationThey Get It Too.
There has always been a difference between how Republicans and Democrats view the economy. But the gap has gotten bigger.
May 25, 2024
https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/inflation-differs-republican-democrat-states-data-14800c1eI prefer this explanation from your article.
Moodys Analytics chief economist Mark Zandi reckons that part of what drove inflation higher in Republican-leaning states was housingespecially with so many people moving South after the pandemic started.
You saw significant out-migration from the Northeast and the West Coast to the South and the Mountain West that tend to be more Republican, he said. Rents, in particular, shot higher, and rents and rent-derived measures count for about a third of the spending basket the Labor Department uses to calculate inflation.
People left blue states, looking for better opportunities in red states. Demand for goods, services and housing went up in red states, while it stagnated in blue states. That's a recipe for higher inflation in red states. Now there's nothing wrong with that. People who prefer higher taxes, greater equality at the expense of lower prosperity, more government services, and net zero carbon emissions should congregate in blue states and cities. And leave the rest of us alone.
And as to inflationary expectations, it sounds like the Republican man on the street was right. The Fed and the Biden Administration thought inflation was transient back around mid-year 2021. Well, they were wrong. The Republicans, Larry Summers and Jason Furman were right.
Right you are Tooms. Sending 10 million illegals back to Latin America when unemployment is sub 4% is insane. I favor moving illegals into a guest worker program that would not confer citizenship. And expanding legal immigration of the best and the brightest.
Many Democrats favor conferring citizenship on immigrants who didn't enter through normal channels, because they believe the immigrants will vote for Democrats. They may be mistaken. A large number of the people coming now are refugees from Cuba and Venezuela. They've seen first hand how big, overbearing government works, and they don't like it.
I prefer this explanation from your article.
Moodys Analytics chief economist Mark Zandi reckons that part of what drove inflation higher in Republican-leaning states was housingespecially with so many people moving South after the pandemic started.
You saw significant out-migration from the Northeast and the West Coast to the South and the Mountain West that tend to be more Republican, he said. Rents, in particular, shot higher, and rents and rent-derived measures count for about a third of the spending basket the Labor Department uses to calculate inflation..Nah, let's give Larry Summers and Jason Furman a dual MVP Award for Most Valuable Players in Terrorizing Repubs Into Wishing Higher and Longer Inflation Into Existence.
Thank God Biden and the Dems in Congress were not susceptible to that silly terrorism or we very likely would be suffering another Great Repub Global Depression to this day. Instead, Bidenomics totally averted so much as a global recession. And we only experienced a transitory spike in Trump Pandemic's inflation that peaked and fell as fast and sharply as it rose.
But we all would have seen a lower peak and a lower current rate today if only Summers, Furman, Trump and Fux News had not demanded the suckers believing their clearly inaccurate assessment and forecast of doom had not in turn terrorized their local grocery stores, gas stations, malls and landlords into raising prices sooner and higher than necessary in order to get ahead of the huge looming inflation catastrophe they invented in their minds.
Now, why can't Trump or any other Repub do this rather than produce all the Great Depressions, Great Recessions and Massive Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years?
And after outgoing Dem presidents hand them much, much better economic conditions than any outgoing Repub ever handed an incoming Dem.
Is it because they just don't want to? I'm beginning to think that is the only possible reason. I mean, damn, not even in 100 years!
Record-Breaking Accomplishments On Jobs And Unemployment Under Biden.
June 7, 2024
https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardmcgahey/2024/06/07/record-breaking-accomplishments-on-jobs-and-unemployment-under-biden/
The May jobs and unemployment report is out today, and it shows a continuing strong economy. The Biden Administrations robust and durable track record on jobs and unemployment is breaking records, putting up some of the best results weve seen in half a century.
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Bidens economic track record is particularly strong when you consider that many economists were expecting a recession by now. Former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers spoke for many economists in 2022, saying a recession was almost inevitable, while in 2023 Summers predicted a meaningful and significant slowdown for the economy, again like many other forecasters.
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Economists like James K. Galbraith of the University of Texas argue that both growth and recession are driven in substantial part by policy choices, and intelligent policy can help avoid downturns.
Bidens policies have focused not only on sustaining overall growth, but on finding ways to get growths benefits to lower-wage workers and economically troubled regions of the country. Based on todays jobs and employment numbers, so far, so good.
CheckMate1
06-17-24, 18:38
The most egregious may have been the $455 million that Trump was fined by the state of New York for violating New York Executive Law 63 (12). There's no doubt he violated the law, which enables prosecutors to charge any New York business or businessman with fraud. But the magnitude of the fine was ridiculous given the banks knew Trump was lying on his statements of financial condition and loaned him money anyway. And Trump never defaulted on the terms of the loans in question. He made all the principal and interest payments and the banks made money. Finally, none of the money will go to the banks that allegedly were defrauded. Rather all of it will go into the coffers of the State of New York. And that's one of the main reasons for the existence of New York Executive Law 63 (12), to enable the state to grab assets from businesses and businessmen.This is how civil lawsuits work. The injured party brings a lawsuit against the accused. If the injured party proves their case in court, they will be awarded damages. A secondary court hearing determines the amount of award. Both sides present their case as how much based on what the law allows, experts testimony on the losses, and punitive assessment to deter the loser of case, as well as diswaying future bad actors from conducting business in unlawful maner.
All this leads back to what I said the previous post. Bring your A game to court with evidence and win the case, instead of crying about it, or make excuses AFTER you lose.
The banks could have gone after DJT as well, if they feel they were injured directly. I think this aspect is what some people hold onto. "Oh, the banks didn't feel they were cheated. " If you take the amount of resources to sue DJT, with all the delay tactics used, it may not be a wise use of money especially when you have deliver quarterly earnings to your shareholders. These are financial decisions by the banks, nothing more.
This is how civil lawsuits work. The injured party brings a lawsuit against the accused. If the injured party proves their case in court, they will be awarded damages. A secondary court hearing determines the amount of award. Both sides present their case as how much based on what the law allows, experts testimony on the losses, and punitive assessment to deter the loser of case, as well as diswaying future bad actors from conducting business in unlawful maner.
All this leads back to what I said the previous post. Bring your A game to court with evidence and win the case, instead of crying about it, or make excuses AFTER you lose.
The banks could have gone after DJT as well, if they feel they were injured directly. I think this aspect is what some people hold onto. "Oh, the banks didn't feel they were cheated. " If you take the amount of resources to sue DJT, with all the delay tactics used, it may not be a wise use of money especially when you have deliver quarterly earnings to your shareholders. These are financial decisions by the banks, nothing more.The injured party did not bring a lawsuit CheckMate. The state of New York did. And the state of New York will receive the award, not the banks.
What party was injured? The banks received interest and principal payments and Trump didn't otherwise default on the loans in question. The banks made money.
Fraud normally requires actual damage to a party to convict. Not New York Executive Law 63 (12) though.
Trump's case wasn't the most egregious brought under the statute. That honor may belong to Exxon. New York sued Exxon for purported damage to shareholders because it failed to disclose the risk to its business from carbon emissions. The fine though would have gone to the state of New York! In other words, Exxon shareholders, who own the company, were supposed to pay the state of New York for the fraud perpetrated on said shareholders by Exxon! It would be like Bernie Madoff's investors dipping into their pockets to pay the government for their money that Bernie lost, except that Exxon didn't defraud anyone. That judgement was overturned on appeal. I expect New York appeals courts will substantially reduce Trump's 455 million fine.
Unless Tiny lives in a definite No Toss Up blue or red state, his Third Party, No Party or Write-in vote will essentially be for Trump, as he well knows. Under that same scenario, if he chooses not to vote at all he will essentially be voting for Trump. And he knows that very well, too.
Yeah, yeah, some argument can be made that such a vote might actually help Biden more than Trump. But not likely. Not by most Battleground State calculations at least.
In Winger World, nobody votes for a Third Party, No Party, a Write-in or chooses not to vote at all if they honestly believe there is even a 1 in 1000 chance their doing so will result in a Dem winning. And most definitely not if it means Biden winning over Trump. That is not happening in Winger World.Except for my homeowner's association, my single vote is EXTREMELY unlikely to decide an election. As such I will vote for Truth, Justice and the American Way. For the Libertarian. For Chase Oliver, "armed and gay. ".
After a cursory search I didn't find any evidence that "the majority of Americans" believes "Biden is more senile than Trump" while "Trump is nuttier than Biden. " By the way, that's a cute choice of words because senility always means a mental condition, while "nuttiness" can mean a variety of things including some positive character traits.
The problem with your assessment is that thousands of mental health professionals seem to strongly disagree with you.
As for the second part of your post, it leaves me baffled. Why even bother voting for Oliver when according to your own logic, your vote won't count. Like won't count at all because his chance of becoming president is precisely zero?https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-biden-mental-cognitive-health-president-poll-analysis/
A third of voters believe Biden has the cognitive ability to be president while half believe Trump does, from the above link.
It takes a special kind of nutty to try to steal an American presidential election, but you may be right. Taking into account his mental decline, Biden may be nuttier.
There was no definitive proof but that is what an investigation would have been for. Anyway, an investigation into that is never going to happen.
Elvis, your inbox is full.
Good post about confidential records. I haven't been able to reply because I can't get on the site with my pc, only with my phone, so am confining myself to short replies to our Democrat friends whose posts weren't as substantial as yours. Will be back in due course. That was a very interesting Bloomberg article.
Elvis 2008
06-17-24, 19:46
Elvis, your inbox is full.
Good post about confidential records. I haven't been able to reply because I can't get on the site with my pc, only with my phone, so am confining myself to short replies to our Democrat friends whose posts weren't as substantial as yours. Will be back in due course. That was a very interesting Bloomberg article.I cleaned up my inbox.
The injured party did not bring a lawsuit CheckMate. The state of New York did. And the state of New York will receive the award, not the banks.
What party was injured? The banks received interest and principal payments and Trump didn't otherwise default on the loans in question. The banks made money.
Fraud normally requires actual damage to a party to convict. Not New York Executive Law 63 (12) though.
Trump's case wasn't the most egregious brought under the statute. That honor may belong to Exxon. New York sued Exxon for purported damage to shareholders because it failed to disclose the risk to its business from carbon emissions. The fine though would have gone to the state of New York! In other words, Exxon shareholders, who own the company, were supposed to pay the state of New York for the fraud perpetrated on said shareholders by Exxon! It would be like Bernie Madoff's investors dipping into their pockets to pay the government for their money that Bernie lost, except that Exxon didn't defraud anyone. That judgement was overturned on appeal. I expect New York appeals courts will substantially reduce Trump's 455 million fine.As long as you are convinced that lying on loan documents that shift advantageous terms and money to frauds and liars rather than to honest borrowers is a "victimless crime" as long as the liars share their ill-gotten gains, if any, that they cheated the honest borrowers out of with the bank they originally stole it from, you should feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that a self-described multi multi multi Billionaire won't really suffer any meaningful penalty by paying a mere $455 Million fine for doing it.
No real "victim" on either side, right?
Elvis 2008
06-18-24, 04:07
He really should have hired Elvis and Tiny to defend him in these recent civil and criminal trials.
But Elvis' and Tinys' repeated misrepresentation of what the actual civil awards, indictments and crimes were about are not what would have made them better choices than the attorneys Trump hired and who are no doubt destined to be stiffed on their fees and / or disbarred for whatever additional crime Trump lured them into along the way.
No, it is because it would have been fun to witness them struggling to make it all seem falsely equivalent to engaging in legal P4 P in Thailand or just a long ago misunderstanding about what unwanted and uninvited pussy grabbing and penetration really is in practice or some such nonsense. LOL.Man, if you are a Democrat these days, you have to be arrogant as fuck. What did I say about the law? It is not black and white but gray and here you go again Tooms, When I said government could steal your assets as easily as happened with Trump, you made some arrogant comment why it could not happen to you. Now you come up with this complete bullshit that you only mongered in Thailand where it was legal.
First, there is the Mann Act which is still on the books. In its original form, the act made it a felony to engage in interstate or foreign commerce transport of "any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose". In addition to its stated purpose of preventing human trafficking, the law was used to prosecute unlawful premarital, extramarital, and interracial relationships.
The point is that the USA has the ability to prosecute you even if you are abroad. Congress passed a law stating it was illegal to have sex with a minor even in a foreign land relatively recently.
But you are not engaged in human trafficking right? Yeah, let's look at that definition again: the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act, in which the commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or coercion, or in which the person induced to perform such act has not attained 18 years of age.
Despite the fact that everyone here knows you are lying when you say you only have mongered in Thailand, it does not matter. If you show up in court as some senior with an 18 year old girl claiming to have had sex with you because you coerced her with money, you would be found guilty of trafficking before any depositions were even taken.
Has this happened? Not that I am aware of, but then again, the merging and twisting of laws to get Trump was a one time thing as well. When the libertarian part of the Republican party talks of law and order, we are talking about crimes where there is a victim. We cannot stand government prosecuting people for victimless crimes.
When you have prosecutors actively campaigning to get Trump, you toss the law out the window. The only way Democrats vote for that is the arrogance that they believe that same legal system will not come after them. You mongers lie and tell yourself you are not doing anything illegal while banging hookers. The arrogance and hypocrisy is astounding.
As Matt Taibbi said, Putin jailed his political opposition using the law as well. That is in the Russian tradition of "show me the man, and I will show you the crime". And yet you Democratic douches rant on and on about saving Democracy while you endorse swat teams raids, endless impeachments, and these bullshit lawfare tactics. Putting your political opposition in jail is the most undemocratic thing I can think of outside of assassination and given Biden is not providing SS protection for RFK Jr, he is free to be accused for wanting RFK Jr assassinated.
Tooms, you are not pro-Democracy. You are wanting one party rule like in China and Russia. You just are under the delusion that this party, your party will not come after you. Oh yeah, government would never seize my assets, would never prosecute me. If the government sees value in doing so, they will find a crime to charge you with. You are not innocent. You are just not worth their time and money.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-biden-mental-cognitive-health-president-poll-analysis/
A third of voters believe Biden has the cognitive ability to be president while half believe Trump does, from the above link.
It takes a special kind of nutty to try to steal an American presidential election, but you may be right. Taking into account his mental decline, Biden may be nuttier.That poll is quite a testament for the effectiveness of the 3 years long Mainstream Media-aided and abetted Repub BS about Biden not being able to string two words together, not knowing who he is, where he is, all those tightly edited video and audio fakes and so on.
Or maybe some of the Dem poll respondents and most of the Repub respondents simply don't know the meaning of the term "cognitive health. ".
After all, anyone with above average "cognitive health" and who at least knows what the term means could not possibly think it takes more of it to defy all expert advise not to lay the foundation for and spend a year exacerbating a historic deadly and economically disastrous pandemic.
Or to spend 2. 5+ Trillion on an economic "stimulus" bill that produced 1 million fewer jobs with it than without it.
Or to get busted for a blatantly obvious Election Fraud scheme to steal an election.
Or to bankrupt some half dozen or more businesses.
Or to repeatedly refer to his #1 Repub Party Primary opponent "Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley" as the Democratic Speaker of the House on January 6, 2021.
Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
Than the "cognitive health" as well as the sharp memory, recall and experience needed to brilliantly lead America and the rest of the world in a historic recovery from those Trump / Repub Disasters that has and continues to produce record positive results across the board.
Behold the Republican Party Presidential Candidate's 2024 Election Campaign Platform:
Man, if you are a Democrat these days, you have to be arrogant as fuck. What did I say about the law? It is not black and white but gray and here you go again Tooms, When I said government could steal your assets as easily as happened with Trump, you made some arrogant comment why it could not happen to you. Now you come up with this complete bullshit that you only mongered in Thailand where it was legal.
First, there is the Mann Act which is still on the books. In its original form, the act made it a felony to engage in interstate or foreign commerce transport of "any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose". In addition to its stated purpose of preventing human trafficking, the law was used to prosecute unlawful premarital, extramarital, and interracial relationships.
The point is that the USA has the ability to prosecute you even if you are abroad. Congress passed a law stating it was illegal to have sex with a minor even in a foreign land relatively recently.
But you are not engaged in human trafficking right? Yeah, let's look at that definition again: the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, obtaining, patronizing, or soliciting of a person for the purpose of a commercial sex act, in which the commercial sex act is induced by force, fraud, or coercion, or in which the person induced to perform such act has not attained 18 years of age.
Despite the fact that everyone here knows you are lying when you say you only have mongered in Thailand, it does not matter. If you show up in court as some senior with an 18 year old girl claiming to have had sex with you because you coerced her with money, you would be found guilty of trafficking before any depositions were even taken.
Has this happened? Not that I am aware of, but then again, the merging and twisting of laws to get Trump was a one time thing as well. When the libertarian part of the Republican party talks of law and order, we are talking about crimes where there is a victim. We cannot stand government prosecuting people for victimless crimes..When did I ever say I have only mongered in Thailand?
The Mann Act does not apply to me or anything I have ever done in Thailand, in the USA or anywhere else in the world.
Oh, and I have done nothing that the USA could prosecute me for regarding sex for any purpose or with anyone I have had sex with in the 12 years I have lived in Thailand. You want them to violate the Statute of Limitations in order to bust me for mongering in other countries 12+ years ago? And it will probably be 20+ years if or when I ever return to the USA to deal with my California businesses.
Unlike Trump's crimes, the Statute of Limitations for any blow job or fuck I paid for such that the USA would consider it a crime did not get extended that much due to the hold put on the world during Trump's Pandemic. LOL.
Have you got a link to a USA Penal Code number that you think I have violated? Please post it.
CheckMate1
06-18-24, 16:58
The injured party did not bring a lawsuit CheckMate. The state of New York did. And the state of New York will receive the award, not the banks.
What party was injured? The banks received interest and principal payments and Trump didn't otherwise default on the loans in question. The banks made money.
Fraud normally requires actual damage to a party to convict. Not New York Executive Law 63 (12) though.
Trump's case wasn't the most egregious brought under the statute. That honor may belong to Exxon. New York sued Exxon for purported damage to shareholders because it failed to disclose the risk to its business from carbon emissions. The fine though would have gone to the state of New York! In other words, Exxon shareholders, who own the company, were supposed to pay the state of New York for the fraud perpetrated on said shareholders by Exxon! It would be like Bernie Madoff's investors dipping into their pockets to pay the government for their money that Bernie lost, except that Exxon didn't defraud anyone. That judgement was overturned on appeal. I expect New York appeals courts will substantially reduce Trump's 455 million fine.This is where I disagree with you. But one of us will be correct, after the appeals have been adjudicated. And I will say to you, now, if the decision is reversed (not the awarded amount), then I AM WRONG, and you are RIGHT.
Except for my homeowner's association, my single vote is EXTREMELY unlikely to decide an election. As such I will vote for Truth, Justice and the American Way. For the Libertarian. For Chase Oliver, "armed and gay. ".Oh, that is so brave and noble of you. Especially considering in modern times it is extremely unlikely that any election would be decided by one vote outside of an election for dog catcher in Hooterville.
And no presidential election has been decided by one vote.
But I'll bet if you thought this presidential election might be decided by 537 votes in your state as it was in 2000 in Florida, you sure as hell would not goof around with the possibility of missing out on "4 More Years of Great Trump / Repub Economic Disasters" by voting for Oliver or anyone else but Trump.
Oh, that is so brave and noble of you. Especially considering in modern times it is extremely unlikely that any election would be decided by one vote outside of an election for dog catcher in Hooterville.
And no presidential election has been decided by one vote.
But I'll bet if you thought this presidential election might be decided by 537 votes in your state as it was in 2000 in Florida, you sure as hell would not goof around with the possibility of missing out on "4 More Years of Great Trump / Repub Economic Disasters" by voting for Oliver or anyone else but Trump.Actually if you put a gun to my head and told me I had to vote for Biden or Trump, I'd tell you to pull the trigger.
That's even though it's more likely Trump's policies would work to the benefit of many of my friends and family, who work in fossil fuels. Biden and the Democrats want to take their jobs. But they also want lower gasoline prices. What a hoot!
This is where I disagree with you. But one of us will be correct, after the appeals have been adjudicated. And I will say to you, now, if the decision is reversed (not the awarded amount), then I AM WRONG, and you are RIGHT.I don't think Judge "Kangaroo" Engoron's decision should or will be reversed. Trump deserves to pay some fine for misrepresenting his statements of financial condition. But, taking a more extreme example, you don't execute people for jaywalking.
When did I ever say I have only mongered in Thailand?
The Mann Act does not apply to me or anything I have ever done in Thailand, in the USA or anywhere else in the world.
Oh, and I have done nothing that the USA could prosecute me for regarding sex for any purpose or with anyone I have had sex with in the 12 years I have lived in Thailand. You want them to violate the Statute of Limitations in order to bust me for mongering in other countries 12+ years ago? And it will probably be 20+ years if or when I ever return to the USA to deal with my California businesses.
Unlike Trump's crimes, the Statute of Limitations for any blow job or fuck I paid for such that the USA would consider it a crime did not get extended that much due to the hold put on the world during Trump's Pandemic. LOL.
Have you got a link to a USA Penal Code number that you think I have violated? Please post it.Your personal situation is irrelevant to the principles described by Elvis. And it wouldn't be surprising at all if you were currently violating USA Laws right now, just like most Americans, although admittedly the DOJ or PRC (People's Republic of California) is extremely unlikely to try to extradite you. See Elvis' "three crimes a day" post.
Your personal situation is irrelevant to the principles described by Elvis. And it wouldn't be surprising at all if you were currently violating USA Laws right now, just like most Americans, although admittedly the DOJ or PRC (People's Republic of California) is extremely unlikely to try to extradite you. See Elvis' "three crimes a day" post.My personal experience is precisely what Elvis posted about this and other times.
But on his broader point, nobody stole Trump's assets. But there are mountains of evidence that Trump and his daddy stole Americans' assets in their various tax evasion schemes, loan document lies and acts of fraud.
Or to spend 2. 5+ Trillion on an economic "stimulus" bill that produced 1 million fewer jobs with it than without it.Taking less from American businesses and hardworking Americans of all income levels is not the same as "spending" less. Furthermore, if memory serves me correctly, your source takes an estimate by the CBO from around 2017 or 2018, and assumes that the tax cuts will be extended past their sunset dates. Recent research published by the National Bureau of Economic Research and authored by economists from Princeton, Harvard and the University of Chicago indicates the corporate tax cuts over the long term will actually increase government revenues. That's mostly because of increases in revenues from social security and medicare contributions by individuals and companies.
Or to get busted for a blatantly obvious Election Fraud scheme to steal an election.You got me there. Or would if I were a Trump fan.
Or to bankrupt some half dozen or more businesses.Wow! That's amazing! Eighteen thousand nine hundred and twenty six (18,926) businesses filed for bankruptcy in 2023 under Biden. And Trump only bankrupted six during four years in office!
Oh, you mean six of HIS businesses! Agreed. But he viewed that as a plus and even campaigned on it. "Vote for me, I know how to rig the system."
Or to repeatedly refer to his #1 Repub Party Primary opponent "Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley" as the Democratic Speaker of the House on January 6, 2021.
Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
Than the "cognitive health" as well as the sharp memory, recall and experience needed to brilliantly lead America and the rest of the world in a historic recovery from those Trump / Repub Disasters that has and continues to produce record positive results across the board.
Behold the Republican Party Presidential Candidate's 2024 Election Campaign Platform:Your argument sounds a little like mine that Korea's Kim family wasn't as bad as Cambodia's Pol Pot regime because there were fewer democides under the Kim family.
Democide, that's an interesting word. I wonder if they picked that name for it because of all the people who died in wars presided over by Democratic Party presidents during the 20th century?
That's a joke Tooms -- there's no need to debunk my last statement.
Tooms, you are not pro-Democracy. You are wanting one party rule like in China and Russia. You just are under the delusion that this party, your party will not come after you. Oh yeah, government would never seize my assets, would never prosecute me. If the government sees value in doing so, they will find a crime to charge you with. You are not innocent. You are just not worth their time and money.Tooms isn't a bad guy. He just doesn't see the writing on the wall. He's hitched his wagon to the Democratic Party, and that's where it will stay, come hell or high water.
Actually if you put a gun to my head and told me I had to vote for Biden or Trump, I'd tell you to pull the trigger.
That's even though it's more likely Trump's policies would work to the benefit of many of my friends and family, who work in fossil fuels. Biden and the Democrats want to take their jobs. But they also want lower gasoline prices. What a hoot!Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction take your friends' and family's jobs, along with tens of millions other Americans. Like the most recent ones Repub Trump's policies and stewardship produced.
Not Great Dem Economic Recoveries, Great Dem Expansions and Historic Dem Jobs Creation, including these current ones under Joe Biden.
If your friends and family in the oil industry have done poorly under Joe Biden or worse than they and virtually every other American fared under Trump's results, then they really need to find another line of work anyway.
Great time to start looking for those new jobs would be right now or in the next 4 1/2 years under Biden. For God's sake don't tell them to wait for when Trump or some other Repub is in the WH. All consistent historical and current data shows that would be the worst time to start looking for a new job.
As long as you are convinced that lying on loan documents that shift advantageous terms and money to frauds and liars rather than to honest borrowers is a "victimless crime" as long as the liars share their ill-gotten gains, if any, that they cheated the honest borrowers out of with the bank they originally stole it from, you should feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that a self-described multi multi multi Billionaire won't really suffer any meaningful penalty by paying a mere $455 Million fine for doing it.
No real "victim" on either side, right?Correct, as to the loans that were the subject of the Engoron judgement, there were no victims on either side. The loans never went into default. Trump met his interest and principal payment requirements.
Deutsche Bank accounted for most of the value of the loans, and it was assuming that Trump was worth about half of what he stated he was worth on his statements of financial condition. And based on estimates by Forbes and others, DB probably wasn't off by a lot. They were big boys and knew what they were getting into. Deutsche lost tens of millions on mostly unsecured loans on the Trump Tower Chicago, which mostly were not backed up by Trump's personal guarantee, back around 2011 I believe. They knew the score, and realized that Trump's personal guarantee on later loans was worth a lot.
Judge Engoron, in determining the amount owed by Trump to the state of New York, assumed the guarantee was worth absolutely nothing. In fact, the amounts of the fines represented the additional interest that Trump would have paid if the loans were unsecured (around 9% per annum) versus secured (around 4% or 5%.) That's ridiculous. With the secured loans, Deutsche Bank could go after all of Trump's assets, not just the building that secured the loan.
Tooms isn't a bad guy. He just doesn't see the writing on the wall. He's hitched his wagon to the Democratic Party, and that's were it will stay, come hell or high water.Not at all IF AND ONLY IF Repubs start producing the occasional Great Economic Recovery, Economic Expansion and Historic Jobs Creation and None of the Great Depressions, Great Recessions and Massive Jobs Destruction.
As Dems have consistently done for the past 100 years.
I am only partisan to the side that produces superior results and against the side that produces crap results.
And factoring in all available data and easily observable reality over the past 100 years, my vote must go only to Dems and never to Repubs.
Another one of Elvis' total misrepresentations is in how he apparently believes the Checks and Balances principle of USA democracy and governance is about Party affiliation. Uh. No.
In today's world that would be like arguing we ought to place an equal amount of known arsonists / Repubs in my neighborhood as fire fighters and first responders / Dems. You know, just to be fair and keep the Checks and Balances feature going. LOL.
Not with my help.
BTW, congratulations on coming out of the closet! I'd like to see you keep that same energy on a number of other social liberal issues. Sure Spidy. I full support your right to change your sex, provided you're 21 years of age. And your right to use marijuana, provided you're 18 years of age. Also your right to pay for sex with a donkey, provided said donkey is at least 18 years of age and consenting. And finally, if you were a women, I would support your right to get an abortion, provided it's under 15 weeks from conception in accordance with the Trump Doctrine.
These are all hypotheticals. I believe you're a pretty normal, decent type who's not looking for donkey sex, etc., even though you are a partisan Democrat.
So now you're telling me what I am? That's mighty big of you! Happy to support you on your voyage of self discovery!
(...kkkk) For decades, the Repub's mantra and whole philosophy has been to advocate and position itself as the party of "law and order". But it's plainly obvious, this philosophy only applies when "the law" (or LE), is not against them.
Trump was convicted, based on the facts and evidence presented, was he not?
Personally, it's good to see The Rule of Law, has held up to its billing and not some kind of twisted Republican version, of what they think the law should be, or to whom is should ONLY apply.
A Rule of Law, that holds true to itself, is one where everyone is accountable and NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!
If you guys really believe the shit you're shoveling, then get out and fight for a change and more equality, in unjust laws, a criminal justice system and police brutality!If there ever was a politically twisted version of how the Rule of Law has not held up to its billing, it's Trump's 34 felony convictions for paying off Stormy Daniels. And I have gotten out and fought. I was a contributor to and card carrying member of the ACLU before it became a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democratic Party.
Correct, as to the loans that were the subject of the Engoron judgement, there were no victims on either side. The loans never went into default.
Deutsche Bank accounted for most of the value of the loans, and it was assuming that Trump was worth about half of what he stated he was worth on his statements of financial condition. And based on estimates by Forbes and others, DB probably wasn't off by a lot. They were big boys and knew what they were getting into. Deutsche lost tens of millions on mostly unsecured loans on the Trump Tower, which mostly were not backed up by Trump's personal guarantee, back around 2011 I believe. They knew the score, and realized that Trump's personal guarantee on later loans was worth a lot.
Judge Engoron, in determining the amount owed by Trump to the state of New York, assumed the guarantee was worth absolutely nothing. In fact, the amounts of the fines represented the additional interest that Trump would have paid if the loans were unsecured (around 9% per annum) versus secured (around 4% or 5%.) That's ridiculous. With the secured loans, Deutsche Bank could go after all of Trump's assets, not just the building that secured the loan.So as long as the frauds and liars who steal undeserved advantageous loan terms show enough of a profit from it to pay back the original fraudulently secured loan, then the banks, the law and everyone else who didn't lie and did not get those advantageous loan terms ought to be fine with that, right?
LOL.
You know, contrary to typical Repub lack of logic, if frauds and liars like Trump were really so terrific at producing profits and paying back loans, really owning $100 Million, 50,000 square foot, 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom condos and all that instead of being a blithering business failure, bankruptcy king and shameless deadbeat, he wouldn't have to lie on those loan documents to get favorable terms. He would deserve them and get them after having actually earned them.
Which is anathema to Repubs, of course.
Sure Spidy. I full support your right to change your sex, provided you're 21 years of age. And your right to use marijuana, provided you're 18 years of age. Also your right to pay for sex with a donkey, provided said donkey is at least 18 years of age and consenting. And finally, if you were a women, I would support your right to get an abortion, provided it's under 15 weeks from conception in accordance with the Trump Doctrine.
These are all hypotheticals. I believe you're a pretty normal, decent type who's not looking for donkey sex, etc., even though you are a partisan Democrat.
Happy to support you on your voyage of self discovery!
If there ever was a politically twisted version of how the Rule of Law has not held up to its billing, it's Trump's 34 felony convictions for paying off Stormy Daniels. And I have gotten out and fought. I was a contributor to and card carrying member of the ACLU before it became a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democratic Party.Trump was not convicted of paying off Stormy Daniels.
Why do you and other Trumpster / Repubs keep lying about that?
Trump was not convicted of paying off Stormy Daniels.
Why do you and other Trumpster / Repubs keep lying about that?OK, yeah, I gave you the condensed version. He was convicted for keeping false business records by channeling payments to Daniels through his attorney, and for failure to disclose that as a campaign contribution. He called it legal expense, but never deducted the expense from his taxable income. This was logical. Trump signs his own checks but he doesn't do the accounting, and undoubtedly he didn't want rumors floating around his organization (and getting back to Melania and his kids) about paying off a porn star. So he didn't just write a check to Stormy. And admittedly it wouldn't have helped his presidential campaign if this got out. But calling that an unreported campaign contribution? It's ridiculous.
He didn't cheat on his taxes. In fact, the federal and New York state governments ended up with more tax revenue than if he'd paid Stormy directly, being the additional tax paid by Michael Cohen on the transaction.
OK, yeah, I gave you the condensed version. He was convicted for keeping false business records by channeling payments to Daniels through his attorney, and for failure to disclose that as a campaign contribution. He called it legal expense, but never deducted the expense from his taxable income. This was logical. Trump signs his own checks but he doesn't do the accounting, and undoubtedly he didn't want rumors floating around his organization (and getting back to Melania and his kids) about paying off a porn star. So he didn't just write a check to Stormy. And admittedly it wouldn't have helped his presidential campaign if this got out. But calling that an unreported campaign contribution? It's ridiculous.
He didn't cheat on his taxes. In fact, the federal and New York state governments ended up with more tax revenue than if he'd paid Stormy directly, being the additional tax paid by Michael Cohen on the transaction.You forgot the part where his fellow conspiritors and staffers, in written documents and testimony under oath, all evidence presented and verified showed that the sole purpose of the scheme was to "influence" (steal) the 2016 election and for no other reason. Doing it for that reason is an additional Felonious act.
That was the final nail in Trump's 34 Felony Convisctions even if he never had sex with Daniels and what raised his crime to a more serious felony.
And, no, the judge and the prosecutors did not just make up that part of in the closing arguments.
Trump's fixer Michael Cohen has been saying that was the sole reason for Trump's Election Fraud scheme for years. As he did again under oath at Trump's trial with zero contradicting evidence presented by anyone or with any document.
And, no, I am not personally at risk of the USA government or NY State or California State governments coming after me and convicting me of such a thing.
Or Hillary Clinton ever.
Or Joe Biden ever.
Or Barack Obama ever.
OK, yeah, I gave you the condensed version. He was convicted for keeping false business records by channeling payments to Daniels through his attorney, and for failure to disclose that as a campaign contribution. He called it legal expense, but never deducted the expense from his taxable income. This was logical. Trump signs his own checks but he doesn't do the accounting, and undoubtedly he didn't want rumors floating around his organization (and getting back to Melania and his kids) about paying off a porn star. So he didn't just write a check to Stormy. And admittedly it wouldn't have helped his presidential campaign if this got out. But calling that an unreported campaign contribution? It's ridiculous. Ridiculous? He paid her to get elected.
Maybe he didn't really need it to get elected. Maybe he would've been elected even if Stormy had personally informed every one of his supporters about the event. In fact, his horrible Access Hollywood tape didn't seem to hurt him one bit. Maybe he would've received even more votes for storming Stormy, because seriously -- the more I'm looking at Trump's camp -- the more it reminds me of Johnstown.
But in his mind he did believe that paying Stormy was preferable in order to improve his chances. As a lay person, I'd say "unreported campaign contribution" is fairly accurate in this context. What else was it? Payment for services rendered?
There is nothing ridiculous about it.
You gentlemen are letting your partisanship get the best of you. You make about as much sense as the Republicans who wanted to impeach Bill Clinton for lying about blow jobs. If a Democratic Party presidential candidate did what Trump did in the Stormy Daniels / Karen McDougal case and were prosecuted you'd be defending him.
Michael Cohen was caught on tax evasion and so the Feds were able to get him to plead guilty to the campaign finance charges. Maybe the Republicans can use that as a precedent to go after Joe Biden's attorney for channeling money to his brother. The Democrats want to put all the Republicans in jail and vice versa. You gentlemen should think about who's going to be left to pay for big government if you put all the taxpayers in jail.
Now, why can't Trump or any other Repub do this rather than produce all the Great Depressions, Great Recessions and Massive Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years?
And after outgoing Dem presidents hand them much, much better economic conditions than any outgoing Repub ever handed an incoming Dem.
Is it because they just don't want to? I'm beginning to think that is the only possible reason. I mean, damn, not even in 100 years!
Record-Breaking Accomplishments On Jobs And Unemployment Under Biden.
June 7, 2024
https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardmcgahey/2024/06/07/record-breaking-accomplishments-on-jobs-and-unemployment-under-biden/
Great job numbers all around and more good news for Black voters, from Joe Biden the 14th Best President in U.S. History.
Tight labor markets during Bidens presidency have helped. In April, we saw the lowest gap between Black and White unemployment ever recorded, and the Biden Administration has been proactive in addressing persistent racial gaps in employment and society.
Yet another great jobs report and according to the article, extremely positive news for Black voters looking for yet another, reason to vote for Biden.
Especially, considering the whooper lies, fabrication and blubbering untruths given by Trump's recent awkward "billionaire white man" pleas and grovelling at a Black church (in Detroit), for the Black vote, in what can only be seen as a pathetic display of desperation, given the fact that, historical data shows, that 82% of Black voters, vote for Dems, Detroit is a Black voting stronghold and only 8% Black voters voted for him in 2020.
But good on Detroit, if they can get Trump to spend a large amount of campaign dollars in their city. I'd love to see it happen!
You gentlemen are letting your partisanship get the best of you. You make about as much sense as the Republicans who wanted to impeach Bill Clinton for lying about blow jobs. If a Democratic Party presidential candidate did what Trump did in the Stormy Daniels / Karen McDougal case and were prosecuted you'd be defending him.Yes what Bill Clinton did was wrong, but it was not an impeachable offense as it was not a "high crime or misdemeanor against the United States". And no, I would not defend anybody who did the things that Trump has done. Trump is the worst President ever as he has no respect for the rule of law or the Constitution of the United States, and he was the first President in our history to not abide by the peaceful transfer of power, among other things. The facts prove that he was unqualified and unfit for office, and I hope and pray that the American people do the right and wise thing by not returning him (and his not ready for prime time players) to the White House ever. That would be the best outcome for the country and the rest of the world.
You gentlemen are letting your partisanship get the best of you. You make about as much sense as the Republicans who wanted to impeach Bill Clinton for lying about blow jobs. If a Democratic Party presidential candidate did what Trump did in the Stormy Daniels / Karen McDougal case and were prosecuted you'd be defending him.
Michael Cohen was caught on tax evasion and so the Feds were able to get him to plead guilty to the campaign finance charges. Maybe the Republicans can use that as a precedent to go after Joe Biden's attorney for channeling money to his brother. The Democrats want to put all the Republicans in jail and vice versa. You gentlemen should think about who's going to be left to pay for big government if you put all the taxpayers in jail.Whatever Joe Biden's attorney did with somebody's brother is utterly irrelevant unless they committed a crime in order to influence (steal) an election as their understood and / or stated reason for doing it.
That is what conspiritors Donald J. Trump, Allen Weisselberg and Michael Cohen over there at Trump Org did. And for no other reason.
Nobody in the entire organization uttered one word about the falsification of business records being done to spare anyone's hurt feelings. Not Donnie's, not Melania's, not the bratty kids, nobody's.
It was about influencing (stealing) the election and stated as such by the written description of the scheme by one of the conspirators and testimony under oath by another. The timing of their Election Fraud scheme was precisely at the moment when fellow Repubs were bailing out of endorsing Dear Leader as the election was looming and Trump saw his chances of winning slipping away. It was suggested by one Deadbeat Donald J. Trump to stop making payments on the night of the election because then it would no longer matter if Daniels blabbed. The whole purpose for falsifying those business records would be over by then.
That is why the jurors knew the scheme was all about Election Fraud in order to steal the election and not even remotely about sparing poor Melania's feeling or anything whatsoever to do with anyone named "Trump" personal shame. LOL.
And see, falsifying business records in order to commit Election Fraud and Steal an Election happens to be a Big Deal Felony in the State of New York.
It turns out New Yorkers don't like elections being stolen in their state, even when the theft takes place in their state of a federal election.
And in case you hadn't noticed or read anything about it in a real news outlet or two, one Big Liar named Donald J. Trump actually sent a violent mob of Insurrectionists to storm the Capital and then sat on his butt for 3+ hours doing nothing except enjoying the show and the reports of cops being attacked, maimed and killed, his VP being stalked for a public hanging and the Speaker of the House being stalked for a kidnapping or assasination all because he and his vicious mob of America-haters were a wee bit upset about the Big Lie that Big Liar had told them about an election being stolen.
When, unlike the 34 Felonies that Big Liar named Trump committed in New York State, did not happen anywhere in any state except for at least one other instance of it being done by that same Big Liar in the State of Georgia. Allegedly. LOL.
CheckMate1
06-19-24, 16:34
I don't think Judge "Kangaroo" Engoron's decision should or will be reversed. Trump deserves to pay some fine for misrepresenting his statements of financial condition. But, taking a more extreme example, you don't execute people for jaywalking.So, he's found liable?!
Pick a lane. Can't argue that it's "Kangaroo" and then say he "deserves to pay some fine". If he deserve to pay some fine, then he's a loser of civil lawsuit, to which the plaintiff proved in a court of law. Again, "The People" brought evidence and proved their case in court. The loser of the case was not defended well, and lost.
As for the amount, it is arbitrary, but the judge gets to decide how much, not us, not the defendant, not pundits. Happens everyday in court, we don't go around saying how unfair it is for one defendant to pay X, and another paying Y on civil litigations. Sure we can opine on it, but just log that as an opinion, not fact.
DJT could have settled for far less, but chose the path of litigation. That's on him.
If there ever was a politically twisted version of how the Rule of Law has not held up to its billing, it's Trump's 34 felony convictions for paying off Stormy Daniels. And I have gotten out and fought. I was a contributor to and card carrying member of the ACLU before it became a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democratic Party.
Nah, not really! Trump's conviction was good for democracy and The Rule of Law. But you'll have to stay tuned, if you want "twisted" as your hero Trump, appeals to "his" SCOTUS.
As for the ACLU, well we all live with disappointment...everyday! I would liked to watch FOXY Muse, once in a while on a consistent basis, but I can't stand, being lied to. And that is of course, until I found out it is mostly Republican lies and just another Repub/QAnon/MAGA propaganda machine.
Sure Spidy. I full support your right to change your sex, provided you're 21 years of age. And your right to use marijuana, provided you're 18 years of age. Also your right to pay for sex with a donkey, provided said donkey is at least 18 years of age and consenting. And finally, if you were a women, I would support your right to get an abortion, provided it's under 15 weeks from conception in accordance with the Trump Doctrine.
These are all hypotheticals. I believe you're a pretty normal, decent type who's not looking for donkey sex, etc., even though you are a partisan Democrat. Tiny 12, between you and Elvis 2008, I don't know who genuinely cares more for my well being? Really...you guys are too much! (...kkkk!) From Earth #2, to your newly constructed, "Hypothetical World" aka."Hypo World" (...kkkk!)
I mean, first there's "Paycheck Superhero", Elvis 2008, telling me, I'm some kind of "gov't paycheck villain" and (BTW I'm still hoping, Spidy will get his a $84 million gov't super yacht, just like Russia gave Zelensky, so he can live up to the super villain billing...), now you, Tiny 12, bring us crime fighting the evils of "partisanship" to a whole new level, in "Hypo World"?
This "Hypo World", of yours sounds so interesting and very supportive of the LGBTQ community. Fair enough, I'm curious...I'll play along!
Hypo World by Tiny 12:
So now that we're in "Hypo World" and one of the superheros "Hypo-Pathetic Boy" (aka.Tiny 12), is dolling out "support" and is on a quest to defeat unjust laws and "partisanship" (especially among the Dems), with his all-knowing bi-partisan "hypo-support" super power, in what must be, a Repub Libertarian version and spin-off series to Elvis 2008's "Paycheck Superhero" series, back on Earth #2...will our hero succeed?
BTW, Tiny 12, now that "Paycheck Superhero", Elvis 2008, has had a chance to clear his inbox...have you guys decided, if this new series will be a shared delusional collaboration? Or will "Hypo-Pathetic Boy", solely own the rights, making and direction of "Hypo World" and all the writing support that comes with?
Will this "hypo libertarian support world" of yours, be a true Repub Libertarian dystopian political drama, with Chase "Armed and Gay" Oliver, as President, but still in the closet?
Does Spidy, get to play the super villain, again? Does the super villain, get his $84 million dollar gov't yacht? And as the super villain, is "withholding support", Spidy's super power?
Tiny 12, so in your "Hypo World", in the episode where "Hypo-Pathetic Boy" is out of the closet and tells "Paycheck Superhero", he loves him (aah!) and they have a unlawful, but yet traditional bi-partisan LGBTQ marriage ceremony and have sex together in a 3-way with an elephant (not sure how that's possible, but anyways it's "Hypo World"), does an ex-president with 34-felony charges, and a rabid Repub, police and FBI force, hunt down our gay superheros?
Does Spidy, as the super villain, use his super powers and deny the gay superhero couple's rights to wed in a 3-way copulation with an elephant? Wow!...If so, that's some heartless super villain "withholding support" shit you've got line up for Spidy. But I'm sure that episode is going be one helluva tearjerker!
Happy to support you on your voyage of self discovery!Yikes, what now, awaits our super villain on his voyage of self-discovery in "Hypo World"? And what does "Hypo-Pathetic Boy", really mean when he says, "Happy to support you..."???
Stay tuned for the next episode of "Hypo World", where "Hypo-Pathetic Boy", is sure to amaze us, with more elephant 3-way action and dazzle us with mighty feats of super powered bi-partisan "hypo-support"!
Elvis 2008
06-19-24, 23:32
YTrump is the worst President ever as he has no respect for the rule of law or the Constitution of the United States, and he was the first President in our history to not abide by the peaceful transfer of power, among other things. The facts prove that he was unqualified and unfit for office, and I hope and pray that the American people do the right and wise thing by not returning him (and his not ready for prime time players) to the White House ever. Talk about your hyperbole. Obama droned and killed an American citizen without a trial and GWB approved the use of torture and could have easily be convicted on war crimes. Trump is not in the same ballpark. You have pure Trump derangement syndrome.
Elvis 2008
06-20-24, 02:22
You want them to violate the Statute of Limitations in order to bust me for mongering in other countries 12+ years ago?LOL. Seriously, Tooms, you are such a douche. After this "felony" conviction which was at worst a misdemeanor had a two year statue of limitations and New York concocted a way to get around the statue of limitations for E. Jean Carroll, you think statue of limitations is going to stave off a hot to trot prosecutor for you? That is why you are such a douche. You think statue of limitations should apply to you and not to Trump.
Unlike Trump's crimes, the Statute of Limitations for any blow job or fuck I paid for such that the USA would consider it a crime did not get extended that much due to the hold put on the world during Trump's Pandemic. LOL.Not quite sure what that means, but I think the time Trump allegedly had sex with Stormy Daniels was 2006. If they could go after him for sex that long ago, why would they not do that with you? And thanks for saying, you engaged in an illegal activity. That was like pulling teeth.
Have you got a link to a USA Penal Code number that you think I have violated? Please post it.That is easy. Let's go with the California law of sexual assault where there is no statue of limitations. All the hookers you have been with in that world are solidly mentally stable and not one of them would not say you assaulted them if they got secondary gain like E. Jean Carroll did? That woman is a complete fucking night job, and I do not even think Trump had sex with her.
Then you have this state misdemeanor statue converted into a federal felony and it really gets stupid. That was completely made up by a prosecutor and a judge went along with it, so I do not have to list any federal statue to get you, I can just convert any state misdemeanor into a felony.
What cracks me up is you think getting a prosecutor and judge together to make up a law and then having a jury in Manhattan convict Trump is this epic accomplishment when it just shows how easy it is to rig a trial. Of course, it will be overturned. It is just a matter of who does it and when.
Yes what Bill Clinton did was wrong, but it was not an impeachable offense as it was not a "high crime or misdemeanor against the United States". And no, I would not defend anybody who did the things that Trump has done. Trump is the worst President ever as he has no respect for the rule of law or the Constitution of the United States, and he was the first President in our history to not abide by the peaceful transfer of power, among other things. The facts prove that he was unqualified and unfit for office, and I hope and pray that the American people do the right and wise thing by not returning him (and his not ready for prime time players) to the White House ever. That would be the best outcome for the country and the rest of the world.
Whatever Joe Biden's attorney did with somebody's brother is utterly irrelevant unless they committed a crime in order to influence (steal) an election as their understood and / or stated reason for doing it.
That is what conspiritors Donald J. Trump, Allen Weisselberg and Michael Cohen over there at Trump Org did. And for no other reason.
Nobody in the entire organization uttered one word about the falsification of business records being done to spare anyone's hurt feelings. Not Donnie's, not Melania's, not the bratty kids, nobody's.
It was about influencing (stealing) the election and stated as such by the written description of the scheme by one of the conspirators and testimony under oath by another. The timing of their Election Fraud scheme was precisely at the moment when fellow Repubs were bailing out of endorsing Dear Leader as the election was looming and Trump saw his chances of winning slipping away. It was suggested by one Deadbeat Donald J. Trump to stop making payments on the night of the election because then it would no longer matter if Daniels blabbed. The whole purpose for falsifying those business records would be over by then.
That is why the jurors knew the scheme was all about Election Fraud in order to steal the election and not even remotely about sparing poor Melania's feeling or anything whatsoever to do with anyone named "Trump" personal shame. LOL.
And see, falsifying business records in order to commit Election Fraud and Steal an Election happens to be a Big Deal Felony in the State of New York.
It turns out New Yorkers don't like elections being stolen in their state, even when the theft takes place in their state of a federal election.
And in case you hadn't noticed or read anything about it in a real news outlet or two, one Big Liar named Donald J. Trump actually sent a violent mob of Insurrectionists to storm the Capital and then sat on his butt for 3+ hours doing nothing except enjoying the show and the reports of cops being attacked, maimed and killed, his VP being stalked for a public hanging and the Speaker of the House being stalked for a kidnapping or assasination all because he and his vicious mob of America-haters were a wee bit upset about the Big Lie that Big Liar had told them about an election being stolen.
When, unlike the 34 Felonies that Big Liar named Trump committed in New York State, did not happen anywhere in any state except for at least one other instance of it being done by that same Big Liar in the State of Georgia. Allegedly. LOL.
So, he's found liable?!
Pick a lane. Can't argue that it's "Kangaroo" and then say he "deserves to pay some fine". If he deserve to pay some fine, then he's a loser of civil lawsuit, to which the plaintiff proved in a court of law. Again, "The People" brought evidence and proved their case in court. The loser of the case was not defended well, and lost.
As for the amount, it is arbitrary, but the judge gets to decide how much, not us, not the defendant, not pundits. Happens everyday in court, we don't go around saying how unfair it is for one defendant to pay X, and another paying Y on civil litigations. Sure we can opine on it, but just log that as an opinion, not fact.
DJT could have settled for far less, but chose the path of litigation. That's on him.
Nah, not really! Trump's conviction was good for democracy and The Rule of Law. But you'll have to stay tuned, if you want "twisted" as your hero Trump, appeals to "his" SCOTUS.
As for the ACLU, well we all live with disappointment...everyday! I would liked to watch FOXY Muse, once in a while on a consistent basis, but I can't stand, being lied to. And that is of course, until I found out it is mostly Republican lies and just another Repub/QAnon/MAGA propaganda machine.
Tiny 12, between you and Elvis 2008, I don't know who genuinely cares more for my well being? Really...you guys are too much! (...kkkk!) From Earth #2, to your newly constructed, "Hypothetical World" aka."Hypo World" (...kkkk!)
I mean, first there's "Paycheck Superhero", Elvis 2008, telling me, I'm some kind of "gov't paycheck villain" and (BTW I'm still hoping, Spidy will get his a $84 million gov't super yacht, just like Russia gave Zelensky, so he can live up to the super villain billing...), now you, Tiny 12, bring us crime fighting the evils of "partisanship" to a whole new level, in "Hypo World"?
This "Hypo World", of yours sounds so interesting and very supportive of the LGBTQ community. Fair enough, I'm curious...I'll play along!
Hypo World by Tiny 12:
So now that we're in "Hypo World" and one of the superheros "Hypo-Pathetic Boy" (aka.Tiny 12), is dolling out "support" and is on a quest to defeat unjust laws and "partisanship" (especially among the Dems), with his all-knowing bi-partisan "hypo-support" super power, in what must be, a Repub Libertarian version and spin-off series to Elvis 2008's "Paycheck Superhero" series, back on Earth #2...will our hero succeed?
BTW, Tiny 12, now that "Paycheck Superhero", Elvis 2008, has had a chance to clear his inbox...have you guys decided, if this new series will be a shared delusional collaboration? Or will "Hypo-Pathetic Boy", solely own the rights, making and direction of "Hypo World" and all the writing support that comes with?
Will this "hypo libertarian support world" of yours, be a true Repub Libertarian dystopian political drama, with Chase "Armed and Gay" Oliver, as President, but still in the closet?
Does Spidy, get to play the super villain, again? Does the super villain, get his $84 million dollar gov't yacht? And as the super villain, is "withholding support", Spidy's super power?
Tiny 12, so in your "Hypo World", in the episode where "Hypo-Pathetic Boy" is out of the closet and tells "Paycheck Superhero", he loves him (aah!) and they have a unlawful, but yet traditional bi-partisan LGBTQ marriage ceremony and have sex together in a 3-way with an elephant (not sure how that's possible, but anyways it's "Hypo World"), does an ex-president with 34-felony charges, and a rabid Repub, police and FBI force, hunt down our gay superheros?
Does Spidy, as the super villain, use his super powers and deny the gay superhero couple's rights to wed in a 3-way copulation with an elephant? Wow!...If so, that's some heartless super villain "withholding support" shit you've got line up for Spidy. But I'm sure that episode is going be one helluva tearjerker!
Yikes, what now, awaits our super villain on his voyage of self-discovery in "Hypo World"? And what does "Hypo-Pathetic Boy", really mean when he says, "Happy to support you..."???
Stay tuned for the next episode of "Hypo World", where "Hypo-Pathetic Boy", is sure to amaze us, with more elephant 3-way action and dazzle us with mighty feats of super powered bi-partisan "hypo-support"!Gentlemen, Trump deserves punishment for shenanigans he pulled after the 2020 election. I'd however favor an ankle bracelet while you'd prefer execution. He indeed never deserved to be president. He's a world class narcissist who took advantage of his customers, vendors, bankers, and investors. However, he got railroaded in New York. Prosecutors went after him for political reasons. Juries and judges convicted him and awarded large judgements against him because they didn't like him.
And Trump did himself no favors. His contempt and vitriol may have cost him hundreds of millions of dollars. He shot the finger at The Man (that is, the government), and you don't fuck with The Man. A lot of people who hear him say "I am your retribution" react very differently from you. They see someone standing up to unfair treatment by the government. That's part of why you see him improving marginally in the polls this year. Many thought Trump would be a goner after he was convicted of 34 felonies. They thought wrong. Trump was not treated fairly by courts of New York state and many people know that.
Despite the polls, Trump probably will lose. On one hand, a majority of Americans have more faith in Trump's economic policies, and Biden is a feeble opponent. On the other hand, Democrats are mad as hell because of abortion and because Trump tried to steal an election. The Democrats are more motivated to vote. I believe that will give them the edge.
I don't know what I can say that I haven't already. A lot of people are in jail who shouldn't be. A lot of businesses are bankrupted or shut down without good reason by greedy plaintiffs and lawyers. Our justice system is far from ideal. You appear to be all for that, at least when the victim is someone you don't like. Trump may deserve huge fines and jail time for things he's done in the past. But not for the specific claims related to the E. Jean Carroll, Stormy Daniels / Karen McDougal, and Deutsche Bank cases. And this is the United States of America, not some podunk banana republic.
Despite his extreme problems with character, Trump didn't do that bad of a job during his term in office, and despite what you think the world won't come to an end if he's elected again. Yeah, he and Congress ran up the deficit, and his trade policy was sadly mistaken. But Biden was just as bad on those scores. He's the only president who was willing to reach out to people like Kim and Putin. If he'd been president, there might not have been hundreds of thousands of lives lost in Ukraine. Changes in the way corporations are taxed and deregulation during his term boosted employment, increased wages and helped businesses. He did not as Toom believes cause a worldwide pandemic that killed millions.
Elvis seems to have disappeared and you gentlemen are happiest when you can pat each other on the back and pass around attaboys, so I"ll leave you to that for a while. Carry on.
P.S. Spidy I am not gay or bisexual. And I don't fuck elephants. Their pussies are too big.
Gentlemen, Trump deserves punishment for shenanigans he pulled after the 2020 election. I'd however favor an ankle bracelet while you'd prefer execution. He indeed never deserved to be president. He's a world class narcissist who took advantage of his customers, vendors, bankers, and investors. However, he got railroaded in New York. Prosecutors went after him for political reasons. Juries and judges convicted him and awarded large judgements against him because they didn't like him.
And Trump did himself no favors. His contempt and vitriol may have cost him hundreds of millions of dollars. He shot the finger at The Man (that is, the government), and you don't fuck with The Man. A lot of people who hear him say "I am your retribution" react very differently from you. They see someone standing up to unfair treatment by the government. That's part of why you see him improving marginally in the polls this year. Many thought Trump would be a goner after he was convicted of 34 felonies. They thought wrong. Trump was not treated fairly by courts of New York state and many people know that.
Despite the polls, Trump probably will lose. On one hand, a majority of Americans have more faith in Trump's economic policies, and Biden is a feeble opponent. On the other hand, Democrats are mad as hell because of abortion and because Trump tried to steal an election. The Democrats are more motivated to vote. I believe that will give them the edge.
I don't know what I can say that I haven't already. A lot of people are in jail who shouldn't be. A lot of businesses are bankrupted or shut down without good reason by greedy plaintiffs and lawyers. Our justice system is far from ideal. You appear to be all for that, at least when the victim is someone you don't like. Trump may deserve huge fines and jail time for things he's done in the past. But not for the specific claims related to the E. Jean Carroll, Stormy Daniels / Karen McDougal, and Deutsche Bank cases. And this is the United States of America, not some podunk banana republic.
Despite his extreme problems with character, Trump didn't do that bad of a job during his term in office, and despite what you think the world won't come to an end if he's elected again. Yeah, he and Congress ran up the deficit, and his trade policy was sadly mistaken. But Biden was just as bad on those scores. He's the only president who was willing to reach out to people like Kim and Putin. If he'd been president, there might not have been hundreds of thousands of lives lost in Ukraine. Changes in the way corporations are taxed and deregulation during his term boosted employment, increased wages and helped businesses. He did not as Toom believes cause a worldwide pandemic that killed millions.
Elvis seems to have disappeared and you gentlemen are happiest when you can pat each other on the back and pass around attaboys, so I"ll leave you to that for a while. Carry on.
P.S. Spidy I am not gay or bisexual. And I don't fuck elephants. Their pussies are too big.*sniff*.
*sniff*.
No, really, something got in my eye. Not crying. Really.
*sniff*.
You almost had me feeling sorry for the old multiple bankrupt businesses, skyrocketing deficits with nothing to show for it, failed trade war, industry recessions-causing, Pandemic-creating, Insurrection-inciting, cop-killing, election-stealing, democracy-overthrowing fool.
Until I remembered this:
Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-virus-outbreak-barack-obama-public-health-ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a
Trump administration cut pandemic early warning program in September (2019).
Predict project wound down three months before outbreak.
Project had identified 160 potentially dangerous coronaviruses.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/trump-scrapped-pandemic-early-warning-program-system-before-coronavirus
Followed by an acknowledgment and admission by Trump himself that his decisions in 2018 and 2019 caused his Pandemic:
Trump: "It came out of China. And it should've been stopped. And to be honest with you, Barron, they should've let it be known it was a problem two months earlier. The world wouldn't have a problem. We could have stopped it easily."https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/bob-woodward-stunned-trump-told-091902598.html
Followed by a year of him trying to deflect from his worst economic and national security decisions in history by lying about the risk and threat of the virus, mocking the known mitigation measures and convincing anyone stupid enough to listen to him that a vaccine should not me invented or taken; "We've got this under control, it is disappearing already, it will go away without a vaccine"!
And so I concluded once again that monetary penalties for a self-described multi multi multi Billionaire has to be much, much larger than for, say, one of the 20+ Millon Americans whose job was wiped out thanks to that dude's horrific economic and national security policies and stewardship.
And that, yep, severe penalties are due a con man who conspired to commit Election Fraud in order to "influence" (steal) an election, without which theft we never would have had that skyrocketing deficit with nothing to show for it except 1 million fewer jobs created with it than without it, Trump's Pandemic, 1 Million+ Americans mass murdered from it, millions more mass murdered around the world, a historic global economic disaster, massive jobs destruction, supply-chains collapsed, the hyper-inflation and skyrocketing costs of rent, food and gas that followed.
Oh, and that continuing attempt to overthrow American democracy initiated with a War Against America on January 6, 2021, on American soil, declared by him, complete with war deaths, casualties, warriors and hostages while he spent all 1,460 days of his so-called presidency perfectly happy that the USA Military was directly engaged in boots-on-the-ground combat in a War started by the previous Repub potus thingy, too.
There has been no so-called potus, correction, no single person more responsible for more deaths of Americans, more businesses destroyed and jobs lost, more war-mongering, including on American soil, and more in violation of an elected official's Oath of Office to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America than Donald J. Trump.
Sure, in the minds of Repub Wingers, that result is "not that bad of a job" for just 4 years of effort between golf excursions and no reason to worry about repeating "4 More Years" of it ASAP.
Remember Larry Summers, the darling of Mainstream Media back when he was Terrorizing Repubs Into jacking up Trump's Pandemic Inflation higher and longer than it would have been if only they would stop demonizing the brilliant Bidenomics and trust Biden and his team for what is best for the worldwide recovery from Trump's Pandemic?
Well, he's back. Except this time he has learned his lesson about contradicting much better economic recovery and expansion minds in Biden and his administration so now he is agreeing with them on what a holy hell of a greater disaster Trump's 2nd term would be than his 1st historically horrific Term.
LOL. Consequently, you probably won't see Summers showing up on many MSM outlets to share his views and have to search him out on sites like this one:
Summers Says Trump Tax Ideas Mean Mother of All Stagflations
Former Treasury secretary warns of 10% mortgage rates.
Summers urges GOP-leaning economists, executives to speak up.
June 14, 2024
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-14/summers-says-trump-tax-ideas-mean-mother-of-all-stagflations
In a 2nd time around, Trump won't even need to search out, embrace and exacerbate a "Once in 100 Years Disaster" opportunity like most Repubs do and, for just one example, the Trump's Pandemic he created in order to fulfill his Republican Party duty to Crash the Ecomomy, Wipe Out Millions of Jobs and Plunge America Into Another Great Repub Depression / Recession.
All he will need to do is to keep some or most of his campaign promises.
Gentlemen, Trump deserves punishment for shenanigans he pulled after the 2020 election. I'd however favor an ankle bracelet while you'd prefer execution. He indeed never deserved to be president. He's a world class narcissist who took advantage of his customers, vendors, bankers, and investors. However, he got railroaded in New York. Prosecutors went after him for political reasons. Juries and judges convicted him and awarded large judgements against him because they didn't like him.I love it when other people try to tell me what I think without actually asking and / or listening to me LOL! And no, Chump has lost in both civil and criminal trials, not because he isn't liked, but because the prosecutions / plaintiffs presented the facts in a way to convince the triers of fact, either by a preponderance of the evidence or beyond a reasonable doubt, to decide against Chump. The legal system and the rule of law at work. Chump is not above the law and must pay dearly for his wrongs against other people and the nation. And guess what? If and when the other cases go to trial he's going to lose those too! The idiot is his own worst enemy, he's been a loser throughout his entire career if you look at it closely, and he makes it just oh so easy for the other side to beat him down. Because you see, he's incredibly stupid! Which is so ironic since he called everybody else stupid. He could get started with smartening up by buttoning up his big mouth! Of course, we know he won't do that. I say again. Be patient. The other shoes are going to drop. Chump isn't done getting his!
CheckMate1
06-20-24, 17:21
I don't know what I can say that I haven't already. A lot of people are in jail who shouldn't be. A lot of businesses are bankrupted or shut down without good reason by greedy plaintiffs and lawyers. Our justice system is far from ideal. You appear to be all for that, at least when the victim is someone you don't like. Trump may deserve huge fines and jail time for things he's done in the past. But not for the specific claims related to the E. Jean Carroll, Stormy Daniels / Karen McDougal, and Deutsche Bank cases. And this is the United States of America, not some podunk banana republic.
If you read some research into % of wrongly convicted, it comes to about 5% in criminal cases. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazine/magazine_article/a-matter-of-conviction/.
I'm going to assume that the jurors got it right, and that he's not one of the 5%. Time will tell with appeals. Haven't got your take on the 34 guity verdict. I've only been responding to your take on the State of NY V. DJT.
I agree with this sentiment that it is not ideal. So, what we do in a democracy is try to fix these inadequacies by writing legislations to address these problems, over time. You can urge your congressman / senators to write these legislations. That's how it will be fixed.
From: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/banana-republic.
Word History and Origins.
Origin of banana republic1.
Coined by O. Henry (def) in his short-story collection Cabbages and Kings (1904); originally used to describe those agrarian countries of Central America dependent in the early 20th century on foreign investment in fruit exports.
Noun.
, Usually Disparaging.
1. a small, poor country, often reliant on a single export or limited resource, governed by an authoritarian regime and characterized by corruption and economic exploitation by foreign corporations conspiring with local government officials.
2. any exploitative government that functions poorly for its citizenry while disproportionately benefiting a corrupt elite group or individual.
By definition, none of these applies to the case against DJT. I'm going to assume that you're leaning on #2 to prove your point. However, we still have free speech, economy is benefiting most, no war or strifes in the country (political rhetorics do not count, as they would be put down in an actual banana republic state), and a convicted felon can still run for president, so no. This IS still the United States of America, when DJT was president, and the last 4 years as well.
Especially, considering the whooper lies, fabrication and blubbering untruths given by Trump's recent awkward "billionaire white man" pleas and grovelling at a Black church (in Detroit)...
Several key points, I forgot to mention, w/r to pathetic plea and attempt to court Black voters, in Detroit, given the following key points, makes those attempts even more pathetic.
First, the vast majority of people that packed the Black church in Detroit, were white. And probably all paid white locals to Trump cultists.
AND
Second, from the highly staged photo op, in the Black Church, Trump goes directly to a racist conservative rally, host by (racist and closet INCEL) Charlie Kirk, who loves spewing, hateful and racial tropes, about women, Jews and the very Black voters, Trump had just attempted to court. I hear after cutting his teeth on bigotry and a sexist war on women, the closet INCEL, graduated up the Repub "hate ladder", to full-on-racist and antisemite.
We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in 1960's ...
How Charlie Kirk Plans to Discredit Martin Luther King Jr. and the Civil Rights Act
https://www.wired.com/story/charlie-kirk-tpusa-mlk-civil-rights-act/
Kirk blamed “Jewish dollars” for funding “Cultural Marxist ideas." According to Jewish Currents, “Cultural Marxism” is an antisemitic trope that purports that Jewish people are attempting to “undermine traditional American values.”
Kirk also said ”the number one funding mechanism of radical, open border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions, and nonprofits" is “Jewish donors.”
Charlie Kirk turns to antisemitic stereotypes amid Israel-Hamas war...
https://www.mediamatters.org/antisemitism/charlie-kirk-turns-antisemitic-stereotypes-amid-israel-hamas-war
Again, Trump's racist "actions" and not his (bumbbling) words, tell Black voters what he REALLY THINKS of the black community. Again, is it any wonder why he only got 8% of the Black vote.
Gentlemen, ...
P.S. Spidy I am not gay or bisexual. And I don't fuck elephants. Their pussies are too big.Hey Tiny 12, no need to apologize! After all, in your own words:
These are all hypotheticals. Darn it! But won't fans of "Hypo World", (not to mention "Paycheck Superhero") be tad disappointed with this plot and character twist?
Well, Tiny 12, your self-realization, made me think of something you once told me (but not in a creepy kind of way):
Happy to support you on your voyage of self discovery!
Elvis 2008
06-21-24, 22:21
Gentlemen, Trump deserves punishment for shenanigans he pulled after the 2020 election. I'd however favor an ankle bracelet while you'd prefer execution. He indeed never deserved to be president. He's a world class narcissist who took advantage of his customers, vendors, bankers, and investors. However, he got railroaded in New York. Prosecutors went after him for political reasons. Juries and judges convicted him and awarded large judgements against him because they didn't like him.
And Trump did himself no favors. His contempt and vitriol may have cost him hundreds of millions of dollars. He shot the finger at The Man (that is, the government), and you don't fuck with The Man. A lot of people who hear him say "I am your retribution" react very differently from you. They see someone standing up to unfair treatment by the government. That's part of why you see him improving marginally in the polls this year. Many thought Trump would be a goner after he was convicted of 34 felonies. They thought wrong. Trump was not treated fairly by courts of New York state and many people know that.
Despite the polls, Trump probably will lose. On one hand, a majority of Americans have more faith in Trump's economic policies, and Biden is a feeble opponent. On the other hand, Democrats are mad as hell because of abortion and because Trump tried to steal an election. The Democrats are more motivated to vote. I believe that will give them the edge.Tiny, you have to look at Trump the movement versus Trump the man. As a man Trump is flawed as every man is. If you say Biden is virtuous and deserving, I would puke. After GWB and Obama, the people felt left behind. People saw HRC say one thing to the Goldman bankers and another to the people in the hood. In 2008, Obama had a much better handle on the Great Recession than McCain, but as soon as he got in power, none of the thieving bankers went to jail, and Obama was yucking it up with them a few months after being elected. He also sent his more progressive (it was not a dirty word in 2009) economists to the back of the bus and got a bunch of Washington and Wall Street insiders. If there was one exchange that epitomized this disconnect was billionaire Charlie Munger telling an average American to "suck it up" after the taxpayer backed bailouts to banksters like him came through.
Obama was going to win in 2012, and the Republicans could not have picked a worse candidate than Romney, another bankster creature. In 2016, Trump, a billionaire, was the anti-bankster. Finally, there was a guy with enough money to tell the truth, to offend the corporate thieves if need be. That is what people do not get. Oh, Trump is a thief. Really? Compared to the banks or MIC? Please!
The irony is the same thing was going on with Democrats. Bernie Sanders was the clean not corporate candidate. The problem is the primaries were not clean. If they were, Bernie is the Dem nominee in 2016 and 2020. Instead the Dems are chock full of superdelegates who the banksters have bought and paid for, and that means Biden in 2020 and HRC in 2016.
Unlike almost any other pol, Trump caught the populist, anti-bankster, anti-deep state wave and has ridden it better than anyone. It is not love for Trump but love for the movement that has been propelling Trump. Trump got caught up in the deep state bullshit that was Covid.
I know you disagree, but I think anyone who looks at the latest slew of emails and Fauci testimonies can see, we had an out of control NIH that funded creation of the Covid virus. I cannot think of anything that can piss us off more than elevating pandemic causing government dickhead, Anthony Fauci, at the expense of Trump. The vaccine worked great in the Spring of 2021, was partially effective that summer, and did not do shit by Fall of 2021. Instead of being honest about the vaccine, which would have hurt Big pharma pockets, this fucker Fauci pushed even MORE of the ineffective vaccine, and NIH scientists benefitted to the tune of billions. Just like with the great recession, those who caused the crisis were rewarded while the average American was screwed.
What got me is the divergence. No one supported the banks in 2008 but now due to censorship and spin, you have a large number of Democratic douches like Tooms who blame the pandemic on Trump and say "more government" would have been the solution. You even had this ridiculous government fan boy movement when Trump got elected.
People are not even voting for Trump. Lately, you are seeing the ultimate deep state douchery. The Dems / deep state are actually running a guy who cannot walk and talk. This entertainment writer is one of the most partisan hacks there is and here is what he wrote: https://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2024/06/12/the-biden-freeze-video/.
But we're told by believers to. Still believe. As if sheer will will change reality. This is no different from the religious right believing that prayer will solve all their problems. Can't anybody live in reality?
So let's say you're not sure who to vote for, the very few who will decide this election. You see this video and ask yourself. Is this guy up to the job? And if he dies in office do we want Kamala Harris?
Can't anybody live in reality, see what's right in front of their eyes? End of link.
Well, certainly over half of America does not believe the deep state bullshit. We see the attempt to keep Trump off the ballot in blue states, the civil trial against Trump in New York, the sheer idiocy of sending a SWAT team to the residence of a former president, and now this absolutely fucking asinine criminal case against Trump is a deep state admission that this demented, barely able to walk and talk shell of a man has no chance against Trump unless the deep state empties all its bag of tricks.
What I have learned from these Democratic douches is nothing is too much. Outside of an unexpected development, the only way Trump loses is if he is assassinated, and it is not just Tucker Carlson talking about it. You may prefer the term partisan Democrat to Democratic douches. Believe me, Democratic douches is not even strong enough.
These assholes have shown not one scintilla of remorse about all the anti-Democratic bullshit being sent Trump's way. They like to think it is about the man and not the movement which you just mistook as well. There is not a doubt in my body that with these assholes they would be cheering on Trump being killed by the deep state.
And these fucking stupid douches think that would be the end of it. The idea that killing Trump might mean they get killed is over their heads. They do not even get they are in the minority now. All the FBI is not on your side. All the CIA is not on your side. All the military is not on your side.
And you mean to tell me after the bullshit about the two impeachments, J6 and its lies, the censorship-social media complex, and this lawfare bullshit that 2020 was "the most fair" election in history? I have never seen the country on edge as it is now. Is there anybody who wants a demented Joe Biden or Kamala Harris as president? Come on!
I am ashamed to admit that I had somehow missed this other Repub Donald J. Trump policy and stewardship decision, one of his first as so-called president after he conspired to commit Election Fraud and stole the 2016 election, that added an additional Mass Murder Victims of approximately 100,000 women and children to his already established count of 1 Million+ Americans and Millions more around the world with his Worst Economic and National Security decisions of all time in laying the groundwork for, embracing and exacerbating with his 1000's of lies the creation of Trump's Pandemic.
I apologize for that.
Melinda French Gates:
Why this election desperately matters.
June 20, 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/20/opinions/melinda-french-gates-biden-election-endorsement-gates?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_msn
As President Joe Biden faces former President Donald Trump in another contest for the White House, the stakes for women and families couldnt be higher.
I've never endorsed a presidential candidate before. My work on gender equality and global health often requires me to work with leaders on both sides of the aisle, so Ive avoided talking publicly about who I voted for in past elections.
But this year is different.
After Trumps first term in office endangered the health of women, compromising their safety and robbing them of essential freedoms, Im supporting Biden this election and asking others to do the same.
One of Trumps first actions as president was reinstating and expanding the global gag rule, which restricted foreign aid to organizations providing reproductive services and, by some estimations, caused more than 100,000 maternal and child deaths globally.
The former president imposed restrictions on the federal family planning program, Title X, that made it harder for people from low-income backgrounds to access contraceptives. His often divisive, sometimes violent rhetoric throughout his campaigns and administration from the sexist attacks he lobbed at women journalists to calling for his opponent to be jailed has contributed to a hostile political climate for women in office and allowed threats against election workers, most of whom are women, to proliferate.
And he deliberately appointed Supreme Court justices who would overturn Roe v. Wade, which resulted in a decision with far-reaching and catastrophic consequences for women and families.
In the two years since Roe was overturned, emergency rooms have turned away pregnant women in desperate need of care because doctors feared legal consequences. Obstetricians have fled states with strict bans, which could leave women without access to basic services like contraceptives.
The US already has one of the highest maternal mortality rates among advanced economies, and most OBGYNs agree that the decision to overturn Roe has led to more maternal deaths.
On the one hand, Trump has made it clear that, if reelected, he would do nothing to mitigate the damage his administration caused but instead go further by allowing states to monitor and prosecute pregnant women.
On the other hand, Biden has reinstated funding to health organizations for women around the world and fought for reproductive freedom in the US. His administration has supported the right to travel across state lines for reproductive services, preserved access to mifepristone a drug with a 20-year record of safety taken steps to protect fertility treatments such as IVF and worked to make contraceptives more accessible. Hes defended lifesaving emergency medical care for pregnant women and has helped educate doctors and patients about their legal rights.
Whats more, Biden has signaled his broader commitment to women and families by championing historic and sorely needed investments in this countrys care infrastructure.
The US remains the only high-income country without a paid family and medical leave policy, forcing many workers to choose between caring for their loved ones or bringing home a paycheck. As child care becomes crushingly expensive, accounting for up to 31% of a low-income familys earnings, it often makes more financial sense for one parent to leave their job to take care of the kids; in most cases, that parent is a woman.
Not only is the caregiving crisis keeping women out of the workforce, but its costing the US economy billions of dollars. Unless something changes, many women will remain locked out of highly influential industries, from tech and venture capital to media and politics.
Despite the severity of the caregiving crisis, elected officials have failed to place a comprehensive plan on the national agenda for decades. Not Biden.
During his 2020 campaign, Biden made caregiving a central plank of his platform, and in the White House, hes led efforts to make care more affordable for families and boost compensation and job quality for care workers. His push to strengthen the child tax credit, which resulted in many lower-income families with children receiving a check on a monthly basis, helped reduce child poverty by nearly half in just one year.
And he continues to fight for more affordable child care, home care for older Americans and people with disabilities and a long-overdue paid family and medical leave policy. Biden is, put simply, the strongest champion for caregivers the Oval Office has ever seen.
While Trump has boasted about rolling back the rights of women, Biden understands that the future of our country depends on them. Thats why Biden has earned my vote. I urge anyone who cares about women and families to join me.Thanks, Joe, the candidate for President from the true Party of Family Values, Historic Economic Recovery, Stabilty and Expansion, Job Creation, Wage Growth, Lower Crime, Improved Infrastructure and Effective National Security.
Obviously.
Oh, and thank you, Joe, for continuing to be the most lucid, cognitively competent, sharpest, smartest, best informed, most prepared and fit for the office of President of the United States candidate.
Well, not just the best but, really, Joe is the only candidate with those characteristics and qualities:
From Black Church to Racist Antisemitic Rally...
Several key points, I forgot to mention, w/r to pathetic plea and attempt to court Black voters, in Detroit, given the following key points, makes those attempts even more pathetic.
First, the vast majority of people that packed the Black church in Detroit, were white. And probably all paid white locals to Trump cultists.
AND
Second, from the highly staged photo op, in the Black Church, Trump goes directly to a racist conservative rally, host by (racist and closet INCEL) Charlie Kirk, who loves spewing, hateful and racial tropes, about women, Jews and the very Black voters, Trump had just attempted to court. I hear after cutting his teeth on bigotry and a sexist war on women, the closet INCEL, graduated up the Repub "hate ladder", to full-on-racist and antisemite.
Again, Trump's racist "actions" and not his (bumbbling) words, tell Black voters what he REALLY THINKS of the black community. Again, is it any wonder why he only got 8% of the Black vote.
Great job numbers all around and more good news for Black voters, from Joe Biden the 14th Best President in U.S. History.
Yet another great jobs report and according to the article, extremely positive news for Black voters looking for yet another, reason to vote for Biden.
Especially, considering the whooper lies, fabrication and blubbering untruths given by Trump's recent awkward "billionaire white man" pleas and grovelling at a Black church (in Detroit), for the Black vote, in what can only be seen as a pathetic display of desperation, given the fact that, historical data shows, that 82% of Black voters, vote for Dems, Detroit is a Black voting stronghold and only 8% Black voters voted for him in 2020.
But good on Detroit, if they can get Trump to spend a large amount of campaign dollars in their city. I'd love to see it happen!Here's CNN's numbers guy, Harry Enten, describing how "we're careening towards a historic performance (among black voters) for a Republican President the likes of which we haven't seen in six decades!"
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6355179602112
Meanwhile Trump is leading Biden among Hispanics in a number of polls:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/02/us/politics/trumps-support-among-latinos-grows-new-poll-shows.html Trump 46%, Biden 40%.
https://www.txhpf.org/2024/04/16/texas-hispanic-policy-foundation-survey-shows-trump-leads-biden-among-all-texas-likely-voters-and-hispanic-likely-voters-by-12-and-4-respectively/ Trump 41%, Biden 37%.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/01/trump-biden-latino-voters-poll Trump 39%, Biden 34%.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/19/trump-wipes-out-bidens-lead-with-latino-voters-in-2024-cnbc-survey-.html Trump up by 5-points with Latino voters.
Summers Says Trump Tax Ideas Mean Mother of All Stagflations
I happen to agree with Summers about tariffs. I'm not going to tell you why though because I'm pouting.
Oh, man, that was so close! For one New York minute there I thought the only way to prevent another Trump / Repub so-called presidency of Great Repub Economic Disaster, Massive Repub Jobs Destruction, policies and stewardship results that always lead to inflicting life-altering damage to the American Working Men and Women, creating Pandemics and any other "Once in 100 Years Disaster" they can glom onto while only enriching the already wealthy elite, corporations and, of course, THE BANKS, was to wish for a whatsisname assassination.
Fortunately, it turns out the more the American people and electorate feel and recognize Great President Joe Biden's historic economic and national security accomplishments for them, and the more they see and hear Joe Biden appearing on television and campaigning in person in the critical battleground states, including the only 3 that really matter in terms of those 270 Electoral Votes needed for The Win, the more they realize the America-hating numbskulls who tried to con them with their phony spin, tightly edited and cropped faked videos and recordings into believing the clearly brilliant Joe Biden is not able to string two words together, can't walk or talk, doesn't know who he is or where he is, etc, are just a bunch of desperate, hopeless, America-hating liars.
Consequently, even now, even without a fantasized assassination plot, beginning well before Trump was convicted of 34 Felonies for conspiring to commit Election Fraud to steal the 2016 Election, the sight and sound and intelligence and incomparable accomplishments and words and ideas and plans and deeds of Joe Biden has been enough to produce a favorable trend to him that today brings him to within a rounding error in just one state of being ahead in ALL of the Polling Averages that matter.
And, in the real world, that rounding error difference in just one critical state can so easily be overcome for Joe with his Party's effective Get-Out-The-Vote / Ground Game presence in those battleground states as well as the perfectly reasonable expected outcome of him utterly destroying Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repub Trump in any debate Trump can't run, er waddle, and hide from as well as the spectacular Clown Show of a Repub National Convention propelling Joe even closer to an easy well-deserved and well-earned 2nd term win in November.
At least, that is what the generally accepted No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map shows; that Joe Biden only needs to add WI, MI and PA to the rest of his No Toss-Up EC tally in order to win it.
And when we look at the far more credible 538 Polls Site, rather than the provable demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics' Consensus of Polls (which also show Biden to within a statistical tie on every poll that matters, too. But they don't or won't update their Consensus / Averages that reflect the favorable trends and momentum toward Biden. And they insist on including Winger Polls like the ridiculous Rassmussen Poll, which 538 won't even include because it is so Winger-rigged), we see that:
Biden is already ahead in the National Poll Averages.
Biden is ahead in the WI poll Averages.
Biden is ahead in the MI poll Averages.
Biden is within a fraction of one percentage point of being ahead in the PA Poll Averages, with the momentum and trends at least since his terrific State of the Union Address in his favor and with those debates, conventions and 4 more months of sight and sound, appearance and words, accomplishments and plans campaigning ahead!
Yes, all things considered, Joe Biden would very likely win the election even if it were held next Tuesday instead of 4 more months of Tuesdays from now:
MarquisdeSade1
06-22-24, 10:41
I am ashamed to admit that I had somehow missed this other Repub Donald J. Trump policy and stewardship decision, one of his first as so-called president after he conspired to commit Election Fraud and stole the 2016 election, that added an additional Mass Murder Victims of approximately 100,000 women and children to his already established count of 1 Million+ Americans and Millions more around the world with his Worst Economic and National Security decisions of all time in laying the groundwork for, embracing and exacerbating with his 1000's of lies the creation of Trump's Pandemic.
I apologize for that.
Melinda French Gates:
Why this election desperately matters.
June 20, 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/20/opinions/melinda-french-gates-biden-election-endorsement-gates?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_msn
Thanks, Joe, the candidate for President from the true Party of Family Values, Historic Economic Recovery, Stabilty and Expansion, Job Creation, Wage Growth, Lower Crime, Improved Infrastructure and Effective National Security.
Obviously.
Oh, and thank you, Joe, for continuing to be the most lucid, cognitively competent, sharpest, smartest, best informed, most prepared and fit for the office of President of the United States candidate.
Well, not just the best but, really, Joe is the only candidate with those characteristics and qualities:https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/06/21/poll-donald-trump-up-double-digits-on-joe-biden/
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2024/06/21/nolte-ap-lies-about-identity-of-migrants-charged-with-murder-of-12-year-old/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR0NIFKfKKidyeG1XEOeq8-PVteNZUC1ExUU3TiS6XtFMfEtc6rnjNIaVJ8_aem_kSRuesUsfClCqvtJHre6vg
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/06/20/nyt-analysis-support-for-joe-biden-among-women-hits-lowest-for-any-democrat-since-2004/
Is there anybody who wants a demented Joe Biden or Kamala Harris as president? Come on!
Getting slightly off topic, why is it that the state of California paid Kamala Harris a salary of up to $200,000 a year in todays money to bang Willie Brown? And neither had to answer for it? While Trumps facing years in prison on 34 felony convictions for the payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal when he didnt deserve so much as a slap on the wrist?
https://www.rasmusen.org/rasmapedia/index.php?title=Kamala_Harris_As_a_Prostitute
Those are rhetorical questions Elvis. You know the answer. It's because California and New York are run by Democrats. Democrats don't like Trump, but they love Kamala Harris and Willie Brown.
From the link, Brown's network of nonprofit groups and committees later paid Carolyn Carpeneti $2.33 million while the two were dating.
You've given some great advice in the Seeking Arrangement thread about how not to overpay sugarbabies. I guess that's irrelevant though when you're using other peoples' money.
Tiny, you have to look at Trump the movement versus Trump the man. As a man Trump is flawed as every man is. If you say Biden is virtuous and deserving, I would puke. After GWB and Obama, the people felt left behind. People saw HRC say one thing to the Goldman bankers and another to the people in the hood. In 2008, Obama had a much better handle on the Great Recession than McCain, but as soon as he got in power, none of the thieving bankers went to jail, and Obama was yucking it up with them a few months after being elected. He also sent his more progressive (it was not a dirty word in 2009) economists to the back of the bus and got a bunch of Washington and Wall Street insiders. If there was one exchange that epitomized this disconnect was billionaire Charlie Munger telling an average American to "suck it up" after the taxpayer backed bailouts to banksters like him came through.
Obama was going to win in 2012, and the Republicans could not have picked a worse candidate than Romney, another bankster creature. In 2016, Trump, a billionaire, was the anti-bankster. Finally, there was a guy with enough money to tell the truth, to offend the corporate thieves if need be. That is what people do not get. Oh, Trump is a thief. Really? Compared to the banks or MIC? Please!
The irony is the same thing was going on with Democrats. Bernie Sanders was the clean not corporate candidate. The problem is the primaries were not clean. If they were, Bernie is the Dem nominee in 2016 and 2020. Instead the Dems are chock full of superdelegates who the banksters have bought and paid for, and that means Biden in 2020 and HRC in 2016.
Unlike almost any other pol, Trump caught the populist, anti-bankster, anti-deep state wave and has ridden it better than anyone. It is not love for Trump but love for the movement that has been propelling Trump. Trump got caught up in the deep state bullshit that was Covid.
I know you disagree, but I think anyone who looks at the latest slew of emails and Fauci testimonies can see, we had an out of control NIH that funded creation of the Covid virus. I cannot think of anything that can piss us off more than elevating pandemic causing government dickhead, Anthony Fauci, at the expense of Trump. The vaccine worked great in the Spring of 2021, was partially effective that summer, and did not do shit by Fall of 2021. Instead of being honest about the vaccine, which would have hurt Big pharma pockets, this fucker Fauci pushed even MORE of the ineffective vaccine, and NIH scientists benefitted to the tune of billions. Just like with the great recession, those who caused the crisis were rewarded while the average American was screwed.
What got me is the divergence. No one supported the banks in 2008 but now due to censorship and spin, you have a large number of Democratic douches like Tooms who blame the pandemic on Trump and say "more government" would have been the solution. You even had this ridiculous government fan boy movement when Trump got elected.
People are not even voting for Trump. Lately, you are seeing the ultimate deep state douchery. The Dems / deep state are actually running a guy who cannot walk and talk. This entertainment writer is one of the most partisan hacks there is and here is what he wrote: https://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2024/06/12/the-biden-freeze-video/.
But we're told by believers to. Still believe. As if sheer will will change reality. This is no different from the religious right believing that prayer will solve all their problems. Can't anybody live in reality?
So let's say you're not sure who to vote for, the very few who will decide this election. You see this video and ask yourself. Is this guy up to the job? And if he dies in office do we want Kamala Harris?
Can't anybody live in reality, see what's right in front of their eyes? End of link.
Well, certainly over half of America does not believe the deep state bullshit. We see the attempt to keep Trump off the ballot in blue states, the civil trial against Trump in New York, the sheer idiocy of sending a SWAT team to the residence of a former president, and now this absolutely fucking asinine criminal case against Trump is a deep state admission that this demented, barely able to walk and talk shell of a man has no chance against Trump unless the deep state empties all its bag of tricks.
What I have learned from these Democratic douches is nothing is too much. Outside of an unexpected development, the only way Trump loses is if he is assassinated, and it is not just Tucker Carlson talking about it. You may prefer the term partisan Democrat to Democratic douches. Believe me, Democratic douches is not even strong enough.
These assholes have shown not one scintilla of remorse about all the anti-Democratic bullshit being sent Trump's way. They like to think it is about the man and not the movement which you just mistook as well. There is not a doubt in my body that with these assholes they would be cheering on Trump being killed by the deep state.
And these fucking stupid douches think that would be the end of it. The idea that killing Trump might mean they get killed is over their heads. They do not even get they are in the minority now. All the FBI is not on your side. All the CIA is not on your side. All the military is not on your side.
And you mean to tell me after the bullshit about the two impeachments, J6 and its lies, the censorship-social media complex, and this lawfare bullshit that 2020 was "the most fair" election in history? I have never seen the country on edge as it is now.
Another good post Elvis. As you know I don't agree with all of it. But it's thought provoking. You cant be pigeon-holed. Your views run the gamut, from left to right.
My preferred policies may be more in line with Trump's than yours are. You're more progressive on tax policy than he is. You're also to the right of him on COVID vaccines and lockdowns, although I'd argue those are non-issues now. You, Trump, Bernie Sanders and I more-or-less align on foreign policy. We don't like wars. Bernie and I would spend less on the military than Trump -- I'm not sure about you. On social issues, in his heart Trump is more liberal than what you'd think based on what comes out of his mouth. He probably rues outsourcing the selection of Supreme Court nominees to the Federalist Society, which resulted in the Dobbs abortion decisions. That's going to bring more Democrats than usual to the polls in November.
My major problems with him on policy are his tariffs, his propensity to spend like a drunken sailor, and his disregard for the effect of spending on the national debt. However, Bidens just as bad or worse on all these issues than Trump.
I've worked with two people who are like Trump, in terms of their narcissism and tendency to take advantage of other people. It was complete hell, and I'm not going to give my vote to someone like them. I didn't vote for George W. Bush as well because of character issues. I know two people who know G.W. According to them, he fits Ann Richard's description of his father (born with a silver spoon in his mouth) much more closely than G.H.W. Bush. Futhermore, one of their fathers, who knew Junior reasonably well, said something like "that impetuous son of a ***** is going to get us into a war if he's ever elected president." The father served in combat during the Korean conflict, so he knew something about war. Anyway, I didn't believe Trump or George W. Bush had the character to be president. I believe that history justified my beliefs. One of them got us into a needless war and the other tried to steal an election.
I agree with you that the 2020 election wasn't the fairest in history. Yes, there were undoubtedly a lot of violations of election law, and based on the Heritage Foundation voter fraud database, I bet several times more votes were stolen by Democrats than Republicans. But the fraud didn't come anywhere close to overturning the results. Through no fault of his own, Trump presided over one of the deepest, and shortest, recessions in the history of the USA. People vote their pocketbooks, and in the fall of 2020, they weren't in as good of shape as when Trump took office.
What did happen is that procedural rules were changed for mail in voting and the like, and that did work to hurt Republicans. Part of this was Trump's fault for telling people their vote wouldn't count if they didn't go to the polls on election day. That may have made the difference in the Georgia Senate runoffs in January, 2021, but I don't think it made a difference in the presidential election. Trump would have lost anyway.
While in general, I prefer deregulation over the alternative, I agree that financial companies were not and are not adequately regulated. That was the problem in 2008, and, contrary to the belief of our Partisan Democrat friends*, you can't lay all the blame on George W. Bush and Republicans. Furthermore, at that time, I recall reading that 20% of the profits of S&P 500 companies were realized by financial institutions. That's crazy! Finance should be the grease that lubricates the economy, and the grease doesn't deserve 20%. There are simple steps, like higher requirements for tangible equity as a % of assets for financial companies, that would help. Dont loan people money to buy an $1 million house with no money down who are making $100,000 a year. Also make sure over-the-counter derivatives are backed up by cash deposits. And the sector needs more competition. It's like health care in America, which costs 18% of GDP and produces poor outcomes compared to other countries. I vastly prefer free markets, but they weren't working in 2008 in finance and still aren't today in health care.
Around 2008 to 2011, I strongly agreed with you about the bailouts. My opinion has since changed. I believe they may have avoided a much worse downturn, and the government mostly got its money back.
*See how much better this sounds than Democrat Douches !
Uh. Rasmussen's poll respondents are pre-selected for their pro Trump Wingerism posts and likes on Facebook.
Given that pre-selection, it is devastating news for Trump that even those virulent Trumpsters could not squeeze out a bigger loaf for him than a 10 point lead in a Head-to-Head and a 9 point lead in a 5-Way against Biden. Lolol.
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/06/21/poll-donald-trump-up-double-digits-on-joe-biden/
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2024/06/21/nolte-ap-lies-about-identity-of-migrants-charged-with-murder-of-12-year-old/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR0NIFKfKKidyeG1XEOeq8-PVteNZUC1ExUU3TiS6XtFMfEtc6rnjNIaVJ8_aem_kSRuesUsfClCqvtJHre6vg
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/06/20/nyt-analysis-support-for-joe-biden-among-women-hits-lowest-for-any-democrat-since-2004/ 538 drops Rasmussen Reports from its analysis.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fivethirtyeight/comments/1b9zs1t/538_drops_rasmussen_reports_from_its_analysis/
Why are the Rasmussen Polls results so different from all the others?
https://www.quora.com/Why-are-the-Rasmussen-Polls-results-so-different-from-all-the-others
Polling is a studied science.
Rasmussen is one laughingstock of the polling universe. (Note Rasmussen is not the only laughingstock, but they are probably the best known giggle, when it comes to the world of conducting polls.)
"Given that the temperature last Thursday, the 23rd of December, was below zero in most of the United States, how likely is it that you will support Joseph Bidens plan to combat Global Warming and Climate Change in the next election?"
Gulp.
That was a Rasmussen question. On Facebook. Those who saw it, and answered, did not even see the name Rasmussen anywhere. They were targeted, because of things they had written on Facebook in the past. They were pre-selected. Because they were already known to be a Trump supporter. They had no idea they were being counted, and they just knew they were clicking on a link and they only knew that it was freaking cold out, at that very moment..
Yes, anything can happen. But 3 days before the 1st of 2 historic presidential debates:
Who Is Favored To Win The 2024 Presidential Election?
June 23, 2024
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/
Biden wins 51 times out of 100
in our simulations of the 2024 presidential election.
Trump wins 48 times out of 100.
There is a less than 1-in-100 chance of no Electoral College winner.Of course, Trump is not preparing in any way for this coming debate. Why bother to prepare when your opponent is "weak, feeble, confused, sleeping all the time, unable to put two words together, doesn't know who he is or where he is"?
Unless Trump has been lying to us about that for the past three years. That would be so unlike Trump.
Besides, all Trump needs to do is to explain that his 2nd Term plan is the same as his 1st Term plan:
Elvis 2008
06-23-24, 19:32
Getting slightly off topic, why is it that the state of California paid Kamala Harris a salary of up to $200,000 a year in todays money to bang Willie Brown? And neither had to answer for it? While Trumps facing years in prison on 34 felony convictions for the payoffs to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal when he didnt deserve so much as a slap on the wrist?
https://www.rasmusen.org/rasmapedia/index.php?title=Kamala_Harris_As_a_ProstituteLOL. Yeah, the difference between Republicans and Democrats is Republicans use their own money to buy hookers and the Dems use taxpayer money.
Around 2008 to 2011, I strongly agreed with you about the bailouts. My opinion has since changed. I believe they may have avoided a much worse downturn, and the government mostly got its money back.Instead of putting many banksters in jail for out right fraud, Obama got them to pledge allegiance to him and the Dems. So now you have the banking sector pushing the Democratic agenda with ESG scores and DEI initiatives, and the DEI shit is just flat out racist. Watch the video in this report: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/disney-exposed-vp-admits-hidden-camera-company-refuses-hire-white-males#google_vignette.
The only racism and sexism allowed these days is against white men. You have to ask why so many white males like Tooms and Spidy could be Dems then right? Thing is with guys like Spidy and Tooms, they are told, we are racist and sexist against the MAGA guys not you, and they are stupid enough to believe it. That is why they are douches.
So Disney focuses on DEI and ESG to get their stock price up, but it is not working. As of now, the money is flowing to the tech sector and a few companies being hyped with AI. I do not know if there is enough money in the world to justify the tech valuations as they are now.
*See how much better this sounds than Democrat Douches !It is way better. Your post was objective and logical except for this part.
I've worked with two people who are like Trump, in terms of their narcissism and tendency to take advantage of other people. It was complete hell, and I'm not going to give my vote to someone like them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKkMWFRcsUQ Go the 45 second mark on that video. There is a 30 second short blurb from Larry Elder on why he supports Trump.
In some sense, if you are a politician, you have to be a narcissist. Thing with Trump is he has not sold his soul to his donors like the other pols have, but he has sold his soul when it comes to selling to his fellow narcissists and you sell to them differently than other people. So everything was the biggest and best. Others call it lying. Trump calls it useful hyperbole. It might bother people who think that is lying but for me it is just a sales technique.
Then you have the negotiating where you make a ridiculous offer before getting to a reasonable price. Hookers do this all the time too. So Trump may list a property worth $100 million as being worth $1 billion and sell it for $100 million. Thing is if a buyer gets the property for $100 million when he started at a billion he feels like he got a bargain. If Trump listed at $100 million and sold it for that, then the buyer feels he left money on the table. Time and again, I would see Trump pull this technique with Democrats and foreign countries and time and again, it worked. If you are negotiating, Trump wants you to think he is crazy not rational. That means you will take less.
The real and fair criticism with Trump though is he had to hog the spotlight. Outside of his family, he has not built a bench at all. You cannot do the job of being president alone, and in Biden's case, his bench is running the show, and it is not even a good bench. Trump had to borrow a lot from the Bush bench when he started out, and he has the potential to build a great one if he can mend fences with a lot of people who he has burned. I have seen growth in this area. It was kind of fun calling someone stupid when they were being stupid but you should not do that as president. I have seen growth in Trump sharing the spotlight, and I think Trump can be a great mentor if he sees value in that role. But the previous way he treated others has to stop. Trump needs to quit always having to be the center of attention and stop the thin skinned insult slinging. If that is why you do not want to vote for him Tiny, I get it. Like with Larry Elder though, Tiny, I would just ask that you look at where the ball lands.
Here's CNN's numbers guy, Harry Enten, describing how "we're careening towards a historic performance (among black voters) for a Republican President the likes of which we haven't seen in six decades!"
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6355179602112
Meanwhile Trump is leading Biden among Hispanics in a number of polls:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/02/us/politics/trumps-support-among-latinos-grows-new-poll-shows.html Trump 46%, Biden 40%.
https://www.txhpf.org/2024/04/16/texas-hispanic-policy-foundation-survey-shows-trump-leads-biden-among-all-texas-likely-voters-and-hispanic-likely-voters-by-12-and-4-respectively/ Trump 41%, Biden 37%.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/01/trump-biden-latino-voters-poll Trump 39%, Biden 34%.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/19/trump-wipes-out-bidens-lead-with-latino-voters-in-2024-cnbc-survey-.html Trump up by 5-points with Latino voters.
It's times like these, when Repubs love to "beat their chests, like a red gorillas in heat", at how wonderful these (fake) polls have them "winning", in an election yet to be decided at the ballot-box, that I'm ultimately reminded of the 2022 Midterms and the so called "Red Wave", that turned into the "Pick Trickle"(....kkkk!)
So here Repubs are "beating their chests", pre-2022 Midterms and gloating about a "Red Wave" and "Red Tsunami":
Signs that the Republican Party is riding a so-called "red wave" to success in the midterms appear to be coming to fruition, with a number of surveys showing the party increasing its lead over the Democrats in generic congressional polls.
The Red Wave Is Real, Here are Eight Polls That Prove It, Nov 3rd, 2022
https://www.newsweek.com/red-wave-gop-midterms-polls-democrats-congress-1756599
AND THEN this happened:
Through the first half of 2022, polls and special election results indicated Democrats were on track for one of these midterm bruisings. Then the Supreme Courts Dobbs decision happened.
Why the red wave didn't come, Nov 10th, 2022
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23448972/midterms-results-democrats-senate-red-wave
And to complete the analogy,...the "red gorillas, beating their chests", suddenly turn, back into angry squabbling chimpanzees.
Now you should know, I'm not one for the polls w/r to elections. So for me...Seeing is believing!
So until Repubs, actual drive Black voters to turnout on avg. of 12% to 8% plus or more, for them at the ballot-box, I'll stick with the historically actual factual numbers, where on avg. 82% of Black voters, have voted for Democrats.
But as the Vox article noted, then "Dobbs" happened!
So while Repubs continue "to beat their chests", over a slight uptick in the (fake) polls, with Black and Brown voters, they fail to realize their blind-spot in 2024. The killer surge in the WOMEN'S VOTE!, for Joe Biden and Democrats, to uphold their freedoms and rights to bodily autonomy.
As a "Republican Libertarian", I would think you'd see this coming? But then again, Tiny 12, wasn't Nikki Haley your choice for the Repub rep?
PS: Besides, nobody in their right mind, wants Trump, as the 2x impeached, 4x indicted, convict, felon, serial liar, tax cheat, wife cheat, golf cheat, business cheat, racist, wannabe dictator, pussy-grabbing, misogynist, porn-star fucking loser, as President of the USA....NOBODY in their right mind want that! Or whatever lackey sycophant he appoints!
If you read some research into % of wrongly convicted, it comes to about 5% in criminal cases. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazine/magazine_article/a-matter-of-conviction/.
I'm going to assume that the jurors got it right, and that he's not one of the 5%. Time will tell with appeals. Haven't got your take on the 34 guity verdict. I've only been responding to your take on the State of NY V. DJT.
I agree with this sentiment that it is not ideal. So, what we do in a democracy is try to fix these inadequacies by writing legislations to address these problems, over time. You can urge your congressman / senators to write these legislations. That's how it will be fixed.
I love it when other people try to tell me what I think without actually asking and / or listening to me LOL! And no, Chump has lost in both civil and criminal trials, not because he isn't liked, but because the prosecutions / plaintiffs presented the facts in a way to convince the triers of fact, either by a preponderance of the evidence or beyond a reasonable doubt, to decide against Chump. The legal system and the rule of law at work. Chump is not above the law and must pay dearly for his wrongs against other people and the nation. And guess what? If and when the other cases go to trial he's going to lose those too! The idiot is his own worst enemy, he's been a loser throughout his entire career if you look at it closely, and he makes it just oh so easy for the other side to beat him down. Because you see, he's incredibly stupid! Which is so ironic since he called everybody else stupid. He could get started with smartening up by buttoning up his big mouth! Of course, we know he won't do that. I say again. Be patient. The other shoes are going to drop. Chump isn't done getting his!My argument isn't that Trump didn't break the law, in the Deutsche Bank and Stormy Daniels / Karen McDougal cases. Or that the hundreds of thousands of people incarcerated for, say, drug use didn't break the law. It's that the laws in question can provide for overly harsh penalties, are stupid, and / or shouldn't be applied the way they are by prosecutors.
I agree with you Checkmate that the politicians should work on fixing this. And I agree with you Cane that Trump is his own worst enemy.
It's times like these, when Repubs love to "beat their chests, like a red gorillas in heat", at how wonderful these (fake) polls have them "winning", in an election yet to be decided at the ballot-box, that I'm ultimately reminded of the 2022 Midterms and the so called "Red Wave", that turned into the "Pick Trickle"(....kkkk!)
So here Repubs are "beating their chests", pre-2022 Midterms and gloating about a "Red Wave" and "Red Tsunami":
AND THEN this happened:
And to complete the analogy,...the "red gorillas, beating their chests", suddenly turn, back into angry squabbling chimpanzees.
Now you should know, I'm not one for the polls w/r to elections. So for me...Seeing is believing!
So until Repubs, actual drive Black voters to turnout on avg. of 12% to 8% plus or more, for them at the ballot-box, I'll stick with the historically actual factual numbers, where on avg. 82% of Black voters, have voted for Democrats.
But as the Vox article noted, then "Dobbs" happened!
So while Repubs continue "to beat their chests", over a slight uptick in the (fake) polls, with Black and Brown voters, they fail to realize their blind-spot in 2024. The killer surge in the WOMEN'S VOTE!, for Joe Biden and Democrats, to uphold their freedoms and rights to bodily autonomy.
As a "Republican Libertarian", I would think you'd see this coming? But then again, Tiny 12, wasn't Nikki Haley your choice for the Repub rep?In your own words, ....kkkkk! This is how I replied to one of your posts:
Despite the polls, Trump probably will lose. On one hand, a majority of Americans have more faith in Trump's economic policies, and Biden is a feeble opponent. On the other hand, Democrats are mad as hell because of abortion and because Trump tried to steal an election. The Democrats are more motivated to vote. I believe that will give them the edge.My point was that most Democrats believe Trump's a world class racist. If so, then why is he polling better with black Americans than any Republican presidential candidate over the last 60 years? Why is he polling as well among Hispanics as Biden? Where I live there are more Hispanics than whites and Trump beat Biden by 57 percentage points in 2020. Apparently there are a lot of Blacks and Hispanics who do not believe Trump is a racist.
I wasn't enthusiastic about Nikki Haley because she's a neoconservative. I'd sure take her over Biden or Trump though. She'd beat Biden like a drum in a general election.
In your own words, ....kkkkk! This is how I replied to one of your posts:
(...kkkk!) They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I'll take that as compliment!
My point was that most Democrats believe Trump's a world class racist. If so, then why is he polling better with black Americans than any Republican presidential candidate over the last 60 years? Why is he polling better among Hispanics than Biden? Where I live there are more Hispanics than whites and Trump beat Biden by 57 percentage points in 2020. Apparently there are a lot of Blacks and Hispanics who do not believe Trump is a racist.
I wasn't enthusiastic about Nikki Haley because she's a neoconservative. I'd sure take her over Biden or Trump though. She'd beat Biden like a drum in a general election.
Repubs and their "Red Wave" election polls (...kkkk!)
And the latest breed of Repubs, just love to wallow in their hypo-patheticals (Nikki Haley...kkkk!), especially when they can't win at the ballot-box!
Elvis 2008
06-23-24, 22:18
So while Repubs continue "to beat their chests", over a slight uptick in the (fake) polls, with Black and Brown voters, they fail to realize their blind-spot in 2024. The killer surge in the WOMEN'S VOTE!, for Joe Biden and Democrats, to uphold their freedoms and rights to bodily autonomy.
As a "Republican Libertarian", I would think you'd see this coming? But then again, Tiny 12, wasn't Nikki Haley your choice for the Repub rep?
PS: Besides, nobody in their right mind, wants Trump, as the 2x impeached, 4x indicted, convict, felon, serial liar, tax cheat, wife cheat, golf cheat, business cheat, racist, wannabe dictator, pussy-grabbing, misogynist, porn-star fucking loser, as President of the USA....NOBODY in their right mind want that! Or whatever lackey sycophant he appoints!https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-will-not-restrict-access-abortion-pill-2024-06-13/
The justices, two years after ending the recognition of a constitutional right to abortion, ruled 9-0 to overturn a lower court's decision to roll back USA Food and Drug Administration steps in 2016 and 2021 that eased how the drug, called mifepristone, is prescribed and distributed. The decision was authored by conservative Justice Brett Kavanaugh.
The pill, given FDA regulatory approval in 2000, is used in more than 60% of USA Abortions.
The justices ruled that the plaintiffs, who sued in Texas in 2022, lacked the necessary legal standing to pursue the case, which required that they show they have been harmed in a way that can be traced to the FDA.
The Supreme Court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority, in 2022 overturned its 1973 Roe v. Wade precedent that had legalized abortion nationwide, prompting 14 states to enact measures banning or sharply restricting the procedure.
End of link. Oh, wait, you mean that idiotic notion that SCOTUS was a bunch of women hating Republican losers who wanted women stuck in the kitchen at all costs was not true. Heaven forbid SCOTUS does what it is supposed to: interpret law versus make it up. This ruling shows on abortion SCOTUS did exactly what it should have. The mistake was SCOTUS making abortion law.
And 14 states modified abortion law? There goes the notion of abortions being crazy hard to get, and women know that now. I would ask what else you got, but it keeps getting worse for you douches. Speaking of made up crime, former AG and governor of New York just blasted the NY courts for the Trump conviction on Bill Maher's show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-015xtUSxA.
I like the fact that the poster of this video shows the clips of Hiliary lying her ass off in contrast as to what happened to Trump. Hiliary actually committed a crime.
Thing is while Trump went across the customary line for personal insults, he abided by the line of not prosecuting political opponents and did not go after Hiliary when he could have. In fact, after all the insults once the election was over, he called the Clintons good people. It took real effort to turn Trump into a reasonable and compassionate person, but you douches did that. Hell, you even did the impossible. You turned a billionaire cheating on his wife into a victim.
Why don't you go back and start lecturing us on how great the American economy is from where ever you are living? Where is that? China? Brazil? Seeing as how in your economy all that matters is those SS checks keep coming, Biden's inflation has been a godsend for you. With nose bleed American inflation, those SS checks keep getting bigger and bigger.
CheckMate1
06-23-24, 23:35
(...kkkk!) They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I'll take that as compliment!
Repubs and their "Red Wave" election polls (...kkkk!)
And the latest breed of Repubs, just love to wallow in their hypo-patheticals (Nikki Haley...kkkk!), especially when they can't win at the ballot-box!Let's see how a can't walk / can't talk candidate do against the most brilliant mind of all time on a debate stage on June 27,2024.
I hope all of us watch, or at the very least listen to the debate that day, and see how firm we are of the two candidates.
I'll go out on a limb and say that without constant interuptions while the other guy speaks and without an audience, I believe Biden will do well. If he is a bumbling idiot, then he won't do well.
Please watch it live or the complete debate BEFORE you tune into your favorite channel and let them tell you how you should feel.
PS. Not directed at you Spidy
Trump :Your first slide says it all! Thanks, Smoothie!
https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-will-not-restrict-access-abortion-pill-2024-06-13/
The justices, two years after ending the recognition of a constitutional right to abortion, ruled 9-0 to overturn a lower court's decision to roll back USA Food and Drug Administration steps in 2016 and 2021 that eased how the drug, called mifepristone, is prescribed and distributed. The decision was authored by conservative Justice Brett Kavanaugh.
The pill, given FDA regulatory approval in 2000, is used in more than 60% of USA Abortions.
The justices ruled that the plaintiffs, who sued in Texas in 2022, lacked the necessary legal standing to pursue the case, which required that they show they have been harmed in a way that can be traced to the FDA.
The Supreme Court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority, in 2022 overturned its 1973 Roe v. Wade precedent that had legalized abortion nationwide, prompting 14 states to enact measures banning or sharply restricting the procedure.
End of link. Oh, wait, you mean that idiotic notion that SCOTUS was a bunch of women hating Republican losers who wanted women stuck in the kitchen at all costs was not true. Heaven forbid SCOTUS does what it is supposed to: interpret law versus make it up. This ruling shows on abortion SCOTUS did exactly what it should have. The mistake was SCOTUS making abortion law.
And 14 states modified abortion law? There goes the notion of abortions being crazy hard to get, and women know that now. I would ask what else you got, but it keeps getting worse for you douches. Speaking of made up crime, former AG and governor of New York just blasted the NY courts for the Trump conviction on Bill Maher's show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-015xtUSxA.
There are two ways to look at this. This is the text of the Tenth Amendment:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Well, abortion is not addressed in the Constitution. So should the issue be decided by the States? Or by the people?
I'm all for taking as much power as reasonably makes sense away from the federal government and moving it to the states and localities. Let the Californians do what they want to do, and likewise the Texans.
On the other hand, should this be a personal decision, regardless of where the woman lives? Should the power be vested in the people, instead of the state? I'm a big believer in personal liberty and personal choice so prefer this interpretation, within reason. By that I mean that I agree with Trump, if a woman wants an abortion up to around 15 weeks, I think she should be able to get one. If health or rape or whatever isn't a concern though, getting one after, say, 6 months should certainly be off limits.
While I prefer personal choice, the Supreme Court decision probably makes more sense from the perspective of Constitutional Law.
I believe this is a bigger deal politically than you do. I have a female friend who's beyond child bearing years. She mostly voted for Republicans and Libertarians and was a Trump supporter. In 2022 she voted a straight Democrat ticket, because of the Dobbs decision and because of what she viewed as hostility of Republicans to trans people (her son used to be her daughter).
Republicans should have done pretty well in 2022. Inflation was running 8% around election time, and real wages were lower than when Biden took office. People vote with their pocket books. But Republicans remained shut out in the Senate and didn't win nearly as many seats as expected in the House. I attribute that to the abortion decision, and also Trump's support for certain candidates who were loyal to him but poor general election candidates.
This is a big deal in 2024. American Heroes Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema have been run out of the Democratic Party. They were a bulwark against the worst instincts of Joe Biden and the Progressives. If the Democrats sweep the presidency and both houses of Congress, then they're very possibly going to spend like crazy, raise taxes, and kneecap the oil and gas industry. A lot of pro-choice women are going to go to the polls who might not have done so otherwise. They'll be voting for Democrats.
Thing is while Trump went across the customary line for personal insults, he abided by the line of not prosecuting political opponents and did not go after Hiliary when he could have. In fact, after all the insults once the election was over, he called the Clintons good people. It took real effort to turn Trump into a reasonable and compassionate person, but you douches did that. Hell, you even did the impossible. You turned a billionaire cheating on his wife into a victim.
I agree. That's what Trump said after the 2016 election. Some reporting indicates he asked Justice Department officials to go after some Democrats, but I'm not sure I believe all of it. And there was no way he was going to carry through. First of all, his bark is worse than his bite. He likes to convey a tough guy image. But he's a lot more rational than our Partisan Democrat friends give him credit for. He's not going to throw Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Red Rachel Maddow or Joy Reid in jail. Second, American institutions wouldn't let him go after them. Maybe somebody like Ken Paxton would, but he'd have no jurisdiction. Trump had the bad luck to be involved in three major legal cases in a place (Manhattan) where most people hated his guts.
LOL. Yeah, the difference between Republicans and Democrats is Republicans use their own money to buy hookers and the Dems use taxpayer money.ROTFLMAO! I missed this one because your posts are delayed.
It is way better. Your post was objective and logical except for this part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKkMWFRcsUQ Go the 45 second mark on that video. There is a 30 second short blurb from Larry Elder on why he supports Trump.
In some sense, if you are a politician, you have to be a narcissist. Thing with Trump is he has not sold his soul to his donors like the other pols have, but he has sold his soul when it comes to selling to his fellow narcissists and you sell to them differently than other people. So everything was the biggest and best. Others call it lying. Trump calls it useful hyperbole. It might bother people who think that is lying but for me it is just a sales technique.
Then you have the negotiating where you make a ridiculous offer before getting to a reasonable price. Hookers do this all the time too. So Trump may list a property worth $100 million as being worth $1 billion and sell it for $100 million. Thing is if a buyer gets the property for $100 million when he started at a billion he feels like he got a bargain. If Trump listed at $100 million and sold it for that, then the buyer feels he left money on the table. Time and again, I would see Trump pull this technique with Democrats and foreign countries and time and again, it worked. If you are negotiating, Trump wants you to think he is crazy not rational. That means you will take less.
The real and fair criticism with Trump though is he had to hog the spotlight. Outside of his family, he has not built a bench at all. You cannot do the job of being president alone, and in Biden's case, his bench is running the show, and it is not even a good bench. Trump had to borrow a lot from the Bush bench when he started out, and he has the potential to build a great one if he can mend fences with a lot of people who he has burned. I have seen growth in this area. It was kind of fun calling someone stupid when they were being stupid but you should not do that as president. I have seen growth in Trump sharing the spotlight, and I think Trump can be a great mentor if he sees value in that role. But the previous way he treated others has to stop. Trump needs to quit always having to be the center of attention and stop the thin skinned insult slinging. If that is why you do not want to vote for him Tiny, I get it. Like with Larry Elder though, Tiny, I would just ask that you look at where the ball lands.Fair enough Elvis, well stated, both your praise and criticism of Trump. And the Elder segment is a good illustration of your problem with my argument.
Trump does not fact check well. His hyperbole is often misinterpreted for lying. Likewise when Biden lies, it's not not necessarily intentional. It's often because he's losing his mind. It is kind of hard to pass the plagiarism in college and law school off as due to senility though. Perhaps he was crazy from the start -- why would he keep passing Neil Kinnock's speeches off as his own after he got caught the first time?
Your description of Trump's negotiating style kind of reminds me of how he treated Kim Jong Un. At the start he responded to Kim's threats by threatening to blow his country off the face of the planet if he ever dared to fuck with the USA. And it ended up with their meeting in Singapore. Too bad the rapprochement didn't outlast his term in office.
Elvis 2008
06-25-24, 05:46
I believe this is a bigger deal politically than you do. I have a female friend who's beyond child bearing years. She mostly voted for Republicans and Libertarians and was a Trump supporter. In 2022 she voted a straight Democrat ticket, because of the Dobbs decision and because of what she viewed as hostility of Republicans to trans people (her son used to be her daughter).
Republicans should have done pretty well in 2022. Inflation was running 8% around election time, and real wages were lower than when Biden took office. People vote with their pocket books. But Republicans remained shut out in the Senate and didn't win nearly as many seats as expected in the House. I attribute that to the abortion decision, and also Trump's support for certain candidates who were loyal to him but poor general election candidates.I agree, Tiny, and I said it at the time that the abortion decision from SCOTUS was a HUGE gift to Dems in 2022. If you are a woman in the 20 to 40 age range, and Biden has been getting killed there, now abortion is a luxury item in comparison to everything else like rent, car insurance, the cost of a car, the cost of a home, interest rates, the border, seeing illegal aliens getting free rent while you are busting your ass.
If you are beyond child bearing age, and you let abortion decide your voting pattern, we are not going to reach you anyway. With them, at some point they are going to look around and ask who cannot get an abortion who wants one, but this is the Joy Behar type of women who has to be hit over the head before they get it. Really for the Joy Behar type woman the abortion issue is a man controlling a woman, and once women see that Dems really are not on their side but just want control over the health care system, this will change. I think this has already changed now to some degree with the women who are informed, but this is an emotional not factual issue. I think the Trump mindset, it is a state's issue, go bug your legislature is the best approach to have.
They were a bulwark against the worst instincts of Joe Biden and the Progressives. If the Democrats sweep the presidency and both houses of Congress, then they're very possibly going to spend like crazy, raise taxes, and kneecap the oil and gas industry. A lot of pro-choice women are going to go to the polls who might not have done so otherwise. They'll be voting for Democrats.Yeah, you are right. Thing is I just do not see the country going left here. Europe has gone what they call right. Actually, they have just gone back to sanity from insanity. The European right is not that right wing. In 2022, you had the abortion issue driving Dems to the polls. In 2020, it was getting rid of Trump. Is anyone passionate about Biden? The polls say likely voters. There are times like in 2012 I did not like either candidate and just stayed home. I see that happening a lot in 2024 with Dems. There is so much passion among Republicans now and so many depressed Democrats who cannot believe Biden is running again.
In the end, the ultimate contrarian sign is when Tooms is totally beaten and he just flat out lies. Like on Biden's mental state, Tooms is like, Oh, and thank you, Joe, for continuing to be the most lucid, cognitively competent, sharpest, smartest, best informed, most prepared and fit for the office of President of the United States candidate.
Even the most partisan Democrats there are do not believe that load of bullshit.
Trump does not fact check well. His hyperbole is often misinterpreted for lying.That brought a smile to my face. Thank you Tiny! It's now time for WaPo to rename that famous article into this:
Trump's hyperboles total 30573 over 4 years
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years
Your description of Trump's negotiating style kind of reminds me of how he treated Kim Jong Un. At the start he responded to Kim's threats by threatening to blow his country off the face of the planet if he ever dared to fuck with the USA. And it ended up with their meeting in Singapore. Too bad the rapprochement didn't outlast his term in office.Actually, from what I remember, it didn't even outlast a few months. BTW, when Trump said this: "The World has taken a big step back from potential Nuclear catastrophe! No more rocket launches, nuclear testing or research!" -- was it a lie, hyperbole, or just a plain, dumb arrogance of a vain, unintelligent man -- according to your enlightening classification?
...I believe this is a bigger deal politically than you do. I have a female friend who's beyond child bearing years. She mostly voted for Republicans and Libertarians and was a Trump supporter. In 2022 she voted a straight Democrat ticket, because of the Dobbs decision and because of what she viewed as hostility of Republicans to trans people (her son used to be her daughter).
It's a typical tale told around the country:
1. Despite the amusing tales of his favorite host from The View, one Joy Behar, your insights and personal experiences w/r to these types of real life "American Women's Sense and Sensibility" stories, are typically lost on Elvis 2008.
My I suggest you quote him something from Charlie Kirk? Or Pastor John Mark Burns?
2. YES! This is the kind of story, is repeated, several hundred thousand times, around the country, in one variation or another. Somebody knows or has a daughter, sister, wife, mother, cousin, sister-in-law...etc, facing similar healthcare situations.
Thing about Mifepristone and Misoprostol, which is the second [abortion] medication you take, is that they have widespread use cases, such as abortion and miscarriage management, assist in the ease of non-surgical pregnancy complications that arise at all stages of a pregnancy and ulcers. So it's a very useful and necessary aid in providing total safe healthcare.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-will-not-restrict-access-abortion-pill-2024-06-13/
Oh, wait, you mean that idiotic notion that SCOTUS was a bunch of women hating Republican losers who wanted women stuck in the kitchen at all costs was not true. Heaven forbid SCOTUS does what it is supposed to: interpret law versus make it up. This ruling shows on abortion SCOTUS did exactly what it should have.
I know this might be difficult for you to comprehend, but that conservative SCOTUS, had very little choice, but to rule accordingly. It was nothing more than decorative window dressing!
1. Given the fact that the anti-abortion doctors who brought the case hadn't suffer any "concrete injury" and it was the only judgment they could have rendered, without otherwise carelessly exposing their partisan conservatism, w/r to their bias right-wing, "upside-down flag flying", adjudication of the law.
2. They knew full well, had they concocted and sighted some bullshit reasoning to ban Mifepristone, given merits of the brief that was presented by the lower courts, it would have been an immediate "death sentence" for Trump and the Repubs, come Nov 2024.
3. But get this!...The corrupt 2/3 SCOTUS, in not so many words, told the rejected anti-abortion groups and doctors, to come back (preferably after the election...nudge, nudge, wink, wink) and literally give them the Comstock Act (a 1873 zombie law), with which to base their brief on, next time for the win.
4. The corrupt and morally bankrupt 2/3 Conservative SCOTUS, knew full well, that a nationwide Comstock Law, could very well, also mean, contraception would fall within its purview.
5. Women are smart enough to know, this ruling and recent events that means stay of execution, means Misoprostol, IVF and contraception are still on the chopping-block.
So while Repubs dodge political suicide, near certain death and breath a political sigh of relief (way more so than Dems) over the ruling, concerned women everywhere are gearing up to fight SCOTUS, Trump, Repubs and INCELS at the ballot box, come No 2024.
The mistake was SCOTUS making abortion law. So does the INCEL care to explain...what does that mean exactly?
Why don't you go back and start lecturing us on how great the American economy is from where ever you are living? Where is that? China? Brazil? Seeing as how in your economy all that matters is those SS checks keep coming, Biden's inflation has been a godsend for you. With nose bleed American inflation, those SS checks keep getting bigger and bigger.
Was that your latest attempt at an episode of "Paycheck Superhero"? Come on now...you can do better than that! And BTW, don't forget my gov't $84 million yacht!
Speaking of the economy and women's bodily autonomy, Elvis 2008, you could always go back to regaling us with your tales of how your girlfriend's pussy and economic might earns way more in one night, than a half-billion dollar generating, Taylor Swift Eros concert in China and Brazil? (...kkkk!)
PS: Fun Fact for Elvis 2008, w/r to the number of deaths per million, for Mifepristone is five (5) and for Viagra it's 49. Mifepristone is 10x safer than compound V.
That brought a smile to my face. Thank you Tiny! It's now time for WaPo to rename that famous article into this:
Trump's hyperboles total 30573 over 4 years
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years
Actually, from what I remember, it didn't even outlast a few months. BTW, when Trump said this: "The World has taken a big step back from potential Nuclear catastrophe! No more rocket launches, nuclear testing or research!" -- was it a lie, hyperbole, or just a plain, dumb arrogance of a vain, unintelligent man -- according to your enlightening classification?What can I say about Kim Xpartan. You're a neoconservative and I'm not. I believe we were in a better position with North Korea when Trump left office than where we are now. After Trump and Kim met in Singapore, North Korea didnt launch any long range missiles, and only one intermediate range missile, until the end of Trumps term. Since then its launched a number of long and intermediate range missiles.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Korean_missile_tests
I was very fair in letting Biden off the hook for some of his lies too, because of his dementia. But both men intentionally lie a lot, and yes, Trump's worse. And yeah, his vanity plays a part in that, including the Big Lie about the 2020 election.
In the end, the ultimate contrarian sign is when Tooms is totally beaten. Like on Biden's mental state, Tooms is like, Oh, and thank you, Joe, for continuing to be the most lucid, cognitively competent, sharpest, smartest, best informed, most prepared and fit for the office of President of the United States candidate.
.LOL! My ten year old niece is in much better shape cognitively than Joe Biden. And might just do a better job of running the country.
You're right, that there are signs of a rightward shift. Two or three years ago I never dreamed Trump could be polling where he is.
Elvis 2008
06-25-24, 20:53
2. They knew full well, had they concocted and sighted some bullshit reasoning to ban Mifepristone, given merits of the brief that was presented by the lower courts, it would have been an immediate "death sentence" for Trump and the Repubs, come Nov 2024.
3. But get this!...The corrupt 2/3 SCOTUS, in not so many words, told the rejected anti-abortion groups and doctors, to come back (preferably after the election...nudge, nudge, wink, wink) and literally give them the Comstock Act (a 1873 zombie law), with which to base their brief on, next time for the win.
4. The corrupt and morally bankrupt 2/3 Conservative SCOTUS, knew full well, that a nationwide Comstock Law, could very well, also mean, contraception would fall within its purview.If SCOTUS wanted the ruling to stand, they did not have to hear the case. In fact, less than 1% of cases are heard by the Supreme Court. And the ruling was 9 to 0. It is kind of hard to call this some evil Republican SCOTUS plan if the Democratic judges were involved.
So where did you get this seriously stupid shit from? Was this from Joy Behar from the View? Or Whoopi Goldberg? You must be wearing knee pads from the times you fall on the floor screaming, "Preach Sisters!
So does the INCEL care to explain...what does that mean exactly?
Speaking of the economy and women's bodily autonomy, Elvis 2008, you could always go back to regaling us with your tales of how your girlfriend's pussy and economic might earns way more in one night, than a half-billion dollar generating, Taylor Swift Eros concert in China and Brazil? (...kkkk!) LOL. Soy boy, so Taylor Swift is your GF now? Why else make the comparison? And do I have a hot GF or an incel? I know logical thinking is not your strength. Name call your way out of that one Soy Boy.
Was that your latest attempt at an episode of "Paycheck Superhero"? Come on now...you can do better than that! And BTW, don't forget my gov't $84 million yacht! Wait, I recognize that whining. Spidy, are you Joy Behar? It has to be! That makes so much sense now.
PS: Fun Fact for Elvis 2008, w/r to the number of deaths per million, for Mifepristone is five (5) and for Viagra it's 49. Mifepristone is 10x safer than compound V.Well, Joy, if anyone would know that, it would have to be you!
The lead opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal today is consistent with what Elvis is saying about abortion. They disagree with Spidy and me. Here are some excerpts.
The Vindication of Dobbs After Two Years
Letting voters decide on abortion has energized the democratic process.
Democrats are loudly bemoaning the second anniversary of the Supreme Court's ruling overturning Roe v. Wade this week, and that's because they think abortion rights will help them politically. Yet that political frenzy is actually a vindication of the Court's 6-3 Dobbs decision and Justice Samuel Alito's opinion.
The Dobbs decision, which returned abortion policy to the states and the voters, was correct as a matter of constitutional law. It overturned what even liberal jurists in 1973 and since recognized was one of the High Court's worst decisions.
....The Guttmacher Institute said this year "that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023. " Even after Dobbs, that was up 11% from 2020, and is the highest figure in a decade. More women are traveling across state lines, sometimes with financial help from abortion funds. This activity is likely protected under the constitutional right to travel, as a federal court recently ruled, and as Justice Brett Kavanaugh suggested in his Dobbs concurrence.
Another factor, according to Guttmacher, is "broader availability of telehealth for medication abortion. " This month the Supreme Court unanimously rejected a challenge to the Food and Drug Administration's regulations on the abortion pill mifepristone. So much for the Supreme Court serving as a rubber stamp for anti-abortion politicians.
The other piece of the story is that the Dobbs ruling energized the democratic process, with results that have sometimes been surprising. Residents of Kansas, Ohio and Michigan voted in referendums to keep or add abortion protections in their constitutions. Those outcomes were driven in part by highly motivated Democrats, but the Ohio initiative won counties that President Trump carried in 2020 with 60% or more, so there were obviously swing voters....
Public sentiment on abortion is more complicated than either party likes to admit. To cite the Gallup results from the first Dobbs anniversary, 69% of Americans said abortion should be generally legal during the first three months of pregnancy. But in the second three months, 55% said illegal, including 52% of women.
That's the reality of American opinion, but for decades after Roe, politicians were free to ignore it. The Supreme Court had made the law on abortion, so elected officials treated it as a political totem.
....Republicans are adjusting, albeit slowly, and Donald Trump is probably right about the politics. "You don't need a federal ban," he told Time magazine recently. "I'm leaving everything up to the states. The states are going to be different. Some will say yes. Some will say no. Texas is different than Ohio. ".
Two years after Dobbs, abortion policy is being settled by the electorate, and it isn't always predictable, but that's democracy...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/dobbs-two-year-anniversary-abortion-policy-states-supreme-court-democracy-922e8884?mod=opinion_lead_pos1
Elvis 2008
06-25-24, 21:37
LOL! My ten year old niece is in much better shape cognitively than Joe Biden. And might just do a better job of running the country.
You're right, that there are signs of a rightward shift. Two or three years ago I never dreamed Trump could be polling where he is.Tiny, I have a friend in the shipping business and he does a lot of military shipping. He is like, "You would not believe how much military hardware is being shipped everywhere. " he showed me his warehouse full of pseudomilitary shit the week after Biden got elected and laughed, "Hey, baby, this is humanitarian aid. " And now he shakes his head and says, "We are sending shit to Fiji. Fucking Fiji!
This stems from a lack of fear as the USA as America's policeman. It is not a role I relish for the USA to be in, but for some of the world's bad guys, it is essential that the USA still be able to project power.
Thing is I do not think the American people are seeing what a joke Biden is in the rest of the world. Usually, the Europeans are very pro-Democratic party. This was put out by an Italian comedy group PRIOR to Biden's the-day mishaps in Europe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApTyNOXUhSk.
The Italian actor doing Biden has him so dead to rights it makes the video hilarious. You can see the staring in space, walking with discomfort, the handshaking no one bit. We have seen all this before and then Biden goes to France and pulls the same stunts.
Thing is Trump would be up 5 or 10% in the polls if people saw videos like these here in the USA. Instead we see Joe Biden's obvious mental decline labeled as deep fakes.
Now that the lawfare strategy has gone tits up, the Dems are hanging their hats on the debate. The idea is the Dems are going to get Biden just as right with the debate as they did with him with the State of the Union. Thing is Trump wants people to see how out of it Biden is he is willing to concede so much. Jake Tapper is going to moderate and he has compared Trump to Hitler. They are going to turn off the mike so there is no interrupting and Biden is so feeble the latest is he does not want to do the debate standing up but sitting.
Thing is Biden is going to be given Aricept, a dementia drug (if he is not on it already) and a stimulant like Adderall. Hell, he looked wired up on speed when he did the State of the Union. Then you get into the regenerative stuff like stem cells, glutathione, and Relox. I had an autism doctor tell me several times that he had autistic children speak for the first time when injected with glutathione. It lifts that brain fog that gets worse as you get older.
Relox is ozone which is O3 not O2 and it is injected into the blood stream of stroke patients with an assortment of IV minerals. Sometimes it does nothing. Other times with the hyperoxygentation you see immediate results. I have been told Biden will be getting Relox. Ironically, none of these regenerative procedures are FDA approved.
Bill Simmons, who now is more podcaster than Sports writer, is talking about these alternative therapies on his show. The athlete goes to Germany or Mexico (South Korea is the other big one but it is a long flight), and you get injected with stem cells or have some alternative healing procedure, and the player is ready to roll. The latest I have seen of this was with basketball player Jamal Murray of the Denver nuggets. This guy looked hurt and a shell of himself in the first two games of a series and he did something prior to game 3 and was back to his Superman status, but it did not last and Denver lost.
So with Biden, whatever they are doing, is not going to last. This notion that Checkmate eluded to and being tossed out by the Dems, "We will see how Biden does in the debates" is their last grasp effort to say Biden is not losing it. What the Republicans need to counter with is how bad Biden is now and what will he be like in 4 years?
The Dems are lying about Biden's condition and censoring anyone who dares do what the Italians did, but Biden's condition is so bad that even Democrats are losing their marbles over it. The Dems just think if they can cover it up another 4 months they will win. My question to them is, "If you do win, then what?" Because we damn sure know if Biden wins that the people running the country were not elected, and that is what has been the scariest part of this Biden administration and a future one. Right now, I see governments at the federal and state level kowtowing much more to billionaires and the deep state than the public.
The lead opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal today is consistent with what Elvis is saying about abortion. They disagree with Spidy and me. Here are some excerpts.
...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/dobbs-two-year-anniversary-abortion-policy-states-supreme-court-democracy-922e8884?mod=opinion_lead_pos1
I know you may think the article disagrees with what YOU have said, but could you please kindly indicate where the article and I disagree?
Note: I don't have access to the full article, beyond the first page (?), so I'm not sure what else you're seeing, to make you think that?)
The other piece of the story is that the Dobbs ruling energized the democratic process, with results that have sometimes been surprising. Residents of Kansas, Ohio and Michigan voted in referendums to keep or add abortion protections in their constitutions. Those outcomes were driven in part by highly motivated Democrats, but the Ohio initiative won counties that President Trump carried in 2020 with 60% or more, so there were obviously swing voters. ...
https://pointofview.net/articles/dobbs-after-two-years/ (Same article from non-WSJ source. First page only...I think?)
From the quote above, sounds like the writer, very much agrees with me, and what I've been saying w/r to the surge in WOMEN Voters and others, when it comes to supporting abortion, IVF and contraception rights and access.
BTW, the writer, forgot to mention (among others) the huge "can-of-whoop-ass", know as the "Youngkin Belly Flop", that the good WOMEN and people of Virginia, opened up, on Gov. Glenn Youngkin, when he tried to ram-rod and force a 15-week ban on abortion.
So again, where are these disagreements?
LOL! My ten year old niece is in much better shape cognitively than Joe Biden. And might just do a better job of running the country.
You're right, that there are signs of a rightward shift. Two or three years ago I never dreamed Trump could be polling where he is.Your ten year old niece could recover America and most of the world from Trump's Pandemic without so much as a mild recession at home and no Great Repub Global Depression, swing bi-partisan legislation set to improve infrastructure for decades to come, recover and create millions more jobs than all 3 previous Repub so-called potuses combined, add half the deficit spending in that historic recovery than his predecessor spent even in his 3 pre Trump's Pandemic years, lead the Western Alliance to strengthen and add more members to that alliance despite Putin and his puppet Trump's concerted effort to weaken and destroy it, reduce crime and the unemployment rate to decades' long lows, etc?
Sounds like a future registered Democrat.
I'll bet even at age 10 she has a more intelligent, realistic and freedom-based notion of Reproductive Rights than Trump, every Repub in Congress and all 6 Repub appointees on the Supreme Court.
Trump added twice as much to the national debt as Biden: Analysis.
June 24, 2024
https://thehill.com/business/4736740-trump-biden-fiscal-policy-deficit/
Ignoring the pandemic relief measures enacted by both presidents, the proportion of debt addition still holds around 2-to-1, with former President Trump adding $4.8 trillion in non-pandemic-aid fiscal debt and Biden adding $2.2 trillion.
Thing is I do not think the American people are seeing what a joke Biden is in the rest of the world. Usually, the Europeans are very pro-Democratic party. This was put out by an Italian comedy group PRIOR to Biden's the-day mishaps in Europe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApTyNOXUhSk.
The Italian actor doing Biden has him so dead to rights it makes the video hilarious. You can see the staring in space, walking with discomfort, the handshaking no one bit. We have seen all this before and then Biden goes to France and pulls the same stunts.
Thing is Trump would be up 5 or 10% in the polls if people saw videos like these here in the USA. Instead we see Joe Biden's obvious mental decline labeled as deep fakes.
Now that the lawfare strategy has gone tits up, the Dems are hanging their hats on the debate. The idea is the Dems are going to get Biden just as right with the debate as they did with him with the State of the Union. Thing is Trump wants people to see how out of it Biden is he is willing to concede so much. Jake Tapper is going to moderate and he has compared Trump to Hitler. They are going to turn off the mike so there is no interrupting and Biden is so feeble the latest is he does not want to do the debate standing up but sitting.
Thing is Biden is going to be given Aricept, a dementia drug (if he is not on it already) and a stimulant like Adderall. Hell, he looked wired up on speed when he did the State of the Union. Then you get into the regenerative stuff like stem cells, glutathione, and Relox. I had an autism doctor tell me several times that he had autistic children speak for the first time when injected with glutathione. It lifts that brain fog that gets worse as you get older.
Relox is ozone which is O3 not O2 and it is injected into the blood stream of stroke patients with an assortment of IV minerals. Sometimes it does nothing. Other times with the hyperoxygentation you see immediate results. I have been told Biden will be getting Relox. Ironically, none of these regenerative procedures are FDA approved.
Bill Simmons, who now is more podcaster than Sports writer, is talking about these alternative therapies on his show. The athlete goes to Germany or Mexico (South Korea is the other big one but it is a long flight), and you get injected with stem cells or have some alternative healing procedure, and the player is ready to roll. The latest I have seen of this was with basketball player Jamal Murray of the Denver nuggets. This guy looked hurt and a shell of himself in the first two games of a series and he did something prior to game 3 and was back to his Superman status, but it did not last and Denver lost.
So with Biden, whatever they are doing, is not going to last. This notion that Checkmate eluded to and being tossed out by the Dems, "We will see how Biden does in the debates" is their last grasp effort to say Biden is not losing it. What the Republicans need to counter with is how bad Biden is now and what will he be like in 4 years?
The Dems are lying about Biden's condition and censoring anyone who dares do what the Italians did, but Biden's condition is so bad that even Democrats are losing their marbles over it. The Dems just think if they can cover it up another 4 months they will win. My question to them is, "If you do win, then what?" Because we damn sure know if Biden wins that the people running the country were not elected, and that is what has been the scariest part of this Biden administration and a future one. Biden wasn't so far to the left before he lost his mind. He supported all of Reagan's major tax and spending bills, the ones that Tooms believes set the USA on the road to fiscal ruin, destroyed jobs and lowered wages (lol). I apparently am much more of a social liberal than Biden was. By the standards of your modern day Progressive, Biden was racist, gay-hating, pro life scum.
So what accounts for the change? Was it dementia, so that now he's easily manipulated by his Handlers? That's the largest part of it. Biden just does what his Progressive Minders tell him to do. A lot of them are Elizabeth Warren acolytes.
The other factor is that Biden was forced to move to the left to remain relevant in the mainstream Democratic Party. Like I said earlier, reasonable Democrats like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema got forced out of the party. Biden's a survivor. A very old and decrepit survivor.
Here's a list of positions he voted for and / or believed in, back in the day. He's not the same candidate, by a longshot.
Voted FOR Reagan's 1981 tax cuts.
Voted FOR Reagan's 1986 Tax Reform Act.
Voted FOR Reagan's spending reductions in the 1981 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, which including reductions in social security and Medicare benefits.
Voted FOR Reagan's 1983 plan to prevent Social Security from running through its reserves, including increasing the normal age for full retirement benefits from 65 to 67.
In 1997, he voted FOR a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution.
Worked with Republicans to EXTEND Bush tax cuts when he was Vice President.
Repeatedly voted AGAINST school busing for desegregation.
SHUT DOWN harassment allegations by Anita Hill against Clarence Thomas during 1991 Senate hearings.
EULOGIZED Senator Strom Thurmond.
PROMOTED tough-on-crime and anti-drug legislation, like the Comprehensive Crime Control Act.
Voted to BAN homosexuals from serving in the United States Armed Services (The ban was overturned by the Supreme Court in its Log Cabin Republicans versus United States decision).
Voted to PROHIBIT same-sex marriage.
Criticized Roe versus Wade ruling for going TOO FAR to permit abortion.
Supported the HYDE AMENDMENT which banned the use of federal funds for abortion.
Right now, I see governments at the federal and state level kowtowing much more to billionaires and the deep state than the public.I'm not worried about the billionaires. For every George Soros there are two Elon Musk's. Or Paul Foster's or Trevor Rees-Jones'. Maybe people should get one vote for every dollar they pay in taxes, and let the people who foot the bill call the shots.
What can I say about Kim Xpartan. You're a neoconservative and I'm not. Shit Tiny! Every day I keep learning new things about myself. At my ripe age that can't be healthy.
Biden wasn't so far to the left before he lost his mind. He supported all of Reagan's major tax and spending bills, the ones that Tooms believes set the USA on the road to fiscal ruin, destroyed jobs and lowered wages (lol). I apparently am much more of a social liberal than Biden was. By the standards of your modern day Progressive, Biden was racist, gay-hating, pro life scum.
So what accounts for the change? Was it dementia, so that now he's easily manipulated by his Handlers? That's the largest part of it. Biden just does what his Progressive Minders tell him to do. A lot of them are Elizabeth Warren acolytes.
The other factor is that Biden was forced to move to the left to remain relevant in the mainstream Democratic Party. Like I said earlier, reasonable Democrats like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema got forced out of the party. Biden's a survivor. A very old and decrepit survivor.
Here's a list of positions he voted for and / or believed in, back in the day. He's not the same candidate, by a longshot.
Voted FOR Reagan's 1981 tax cuts.
Voted FOR Reagan's 1986 Tax Reform Act.
Voted FOR Reagan's spending reductions in the 1981 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, which including reductions in social security and Medicare benefits.
Voted FOR Reagan's 1983 plan to prevent Social Security from running through its reserves, including increasing the normal age for full retirement benefits from 65 to 67.
In 1997, he voted FOR a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution.
Worked with Republicans to EXTEND Bush tax cuts when he was Vice President.
Repeatedly voted AGAINST school busing for desegregation.
SHUT DOWN harassment allegations by Anita Hill against Clarence Thomas during 1991 Senate hearings.
EULOGIZED Senator Strom Thurmond.
PROMOTED tough-on-crime and anti-drug legislation, like the Comprehensive Crime Control Act.
Voted to BAN homosexuals from serving in the United States Armed Services (The ban was overturned by the Supreme Court in its Log Cabin Republicans versus United States decision).
Voted to PROHIBIT same-sex marriage.
Criticized Roe versus Wade ruling for going TOO FAR to permit abortion.
Supported the HYDE AMENDMENT which banned the use of federal funds for abortion.
I'm not worried about the billionaires. For every George Soros there are two Elon Musk's. Or Paul Foster's or Trevor Rees-Jones'. Maybe people should get one vote for every dollar they pay in taxes, and let the people who foot the bill call the shots.If Biden voted FOR all those Reagan Economic Disasters, then he certainly has changed and the change didn't occur in the past 3 years. I'm guessing he changed by no longer voting FOR Great Repub Recessions, Skyrocketing Debt with nothing to show for it, gross underperformance in jobs creation, skyrocketing unemployment rates, etc and instead to vote FOR no Great Recessions, no massive jobs destruction, no skyrocketing unemployment rates, no skyrocketing debt with nothing to show for it at least immediately after Bill Clinton was elected.
No, not because he began to suffer from dementia right after those Reagan Disasters. Apparently because he recovered FROM dementia afterwards. A welcome change in Joe indeed.
You know, that was about the same time I fully recovered from my pro Repub "Bothsider / Neithersider" dementia too.
After voting FOR Reagan in 1980 and, yes, like Biden at the time, essentially FOR Reagan's economic Disasters, I changed, recovered from at least that first stage of dementia and vowed never to vote for a Repub again.
But it wasn't until Clinton's 2nd term as POTUS that I fully recovered and vowed never to vote for a non Democrat again. Ever. At any level.
That decision marks a full recovery from dementia. Which I assume Joe Biden has also maintained ever since making those horrible mistakes in supporting Reagan's policies.
And yes Elvis, agreeing to a debate moderated by Jake Tapper and Dana Bash wasn't the brightest move by the Trump campaign. CNN has some people who aren't biased. Those two are not among them. How are you going to be treated by someone who believes you're Hitler?
And yes Elvis, agreeing to a debate moderated by Jake Tapper and Dana Bash wasn't the brightest move by the Trump campaign. CNN has some people who aren't biased. Those two are not among them. How are you going to be treated by someone who believes you're Hitler?We have all heard the incessant whining, whimpering, wild conspiracy theories and neverending lame excuses for why everyone who knows Trump, works with Trump, has ever seen, heard and observed Trump, as well as Trump himself, is certain he will totally fuck it up on style, technique and, most assuredly, on content vs "a feeble old man who can't walk, can't talk, can't put two words together, doesn't know who he is or where he is unless he chugs a quart of Mountain Dew moments before airtime. ".
Rest assured, Mainstream Media will try very, very hard to be as generous and forgiving as possible to Trump's pathetically fragile snowflake nature when that happens, as it is totally logical to expect to happen.
CheckMate1
06-26-24, 16:56
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-social-media-case
6-3 decision for the government.
"Writing for the majority, Justice Amy Coney Barrett said that the plaintiffs had failed to make the case that the companies' actions could be traced to pressure from the Biden administration. ".
CheckMate1
06-26-24, 17:07
Let me get this straight, SOME people are opposed to someone taking a drug that makes a potential president smarter, more accute, and a better communicator.
1. No such drugs in any scientific documents, but let's play this game. Name that drug! Because I might want it too.
2. I WANT my president to be sharp for reasons such as making the right decisions to solve problems for the country.
3. There's a drug that solved dementia and, for this debate, SOME people are opposed to it. huh!!!
This is such a weird distraction, and yet there are people gripping onto it.
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-social-media-case
6-3 decision for the government.
"Writing for the majority, Justice Amy Coney Barrett said that the plaintiffs had failed to make the case that the companies' actions could be traced to pressure from the Biden administration. ".
The case arose from the Biden administrations efforts to address the spread of false information surrounding COVID-19 vaccines, foreign interference in elections and much more. Missouri and Louisiana, along with several individuals, argued that outreach by U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy, the FBI, the White House and a key cybersecurity agency amounted to coercing social media platforms into censoring content.
On Wednesday, the Supreme Court disagreed.
Supporters of the ruling argued that at least in the interim the decision preserves the governments ability to engage with private companies on critical matters of public interest. For instance, they said that a contrary decision risked fueling the spread of voting misinformation, which undermines the ability of citizens to make informed decisions about elections, and proliferates false information about where and when to vote. This ruling really cuts into Trumpster / Wingers' ability to continue Mass Murdering as many Americans as they would love to Mass Murder with whatever loony, deadly BS message about Trump's Pandemic virus they can dig up from under a rock and steal elections as Trump's 34 criminal Election Fraud convictions exposed.
Trumpster / Wingers must be absolutely livid about it. Mass Murdering Americans and stealing elections is so much of what has dominated their plans, time and effort since 2016. Now they will have to look for some new workaround to accomplish those goals.
But in the meantime, thanks again for saving millions of American lives and keeping our elections free and fair, Joe.
We have all heard the incessant whining, whimpering, wild conspiracy theories and neverending lame excuses for why everyone who knows Trump, works with Trump, has ever seen, heard and observed Trump, as well as Trump himself, is certain he will totally fuck it up on style, technique and, most assuredly, on content vs "a feeble old man who can't walk, can't talk, can't put two words together, doesn't know who he is or where he is unless he chugs a quart of Mountain Dew moments before airtime. ".LOL! Good one Tooms. That may come to pass. But don't count your chickens before they're hatched! Trump is taking this seriously, and his team figured out the ideal way to prepare:
Trump Preps For Debate Against Biden By Going to Nursing Home And Arguing With Dementia Patients
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-preps-for-debate-against-biden-by-going-to-nursing-home-and-arguing-with-dementia-patients
If SCOTUS wanted the ruling to stand, they did not have to hear the case. In fact, less than 1% of cases are heard by the Supreme Court. And the ruling was 9 to 0. It is kind of hard to call this some evil Republican SCOTUS plan if the Democratic judges were involved.
No "If's" about it!
The corrupt 2/3 Conservative "upside-down, flag-flying" SCOTUS have always secretly and now blatantly openly, pushed for abortion bans. And now that they have it in the red states, their Project 2025 evil diabolical dictatorial plans and efforts now turn to towards, ways in which to make abortion, IVF and contraception, nationwide bans (possibly by way of the 1873 "zombie" Comstock Act). Which BTW, has always been their goal all along.
Right now in red states, there are descriptions of doctors performing, some-kind-of trauma inducing C-section (Caesarean section) on women, disguised as a non-abortion procedure, "...to preserve the appearance of not doing an abortion...", instead of prescribing Mifepristone, for fear criminal persecution, is just wild. Not too mention, the large number of doctors now leaving red states, because of abortion bans and the unjust criminal laws surrounding abortions in red states.
So by all means, Elvis 2008, if this kind of "abortion-hack" is acceptable for your girlfriends, mothers, sisters, daughters, wives, cousins, sisters-in-law...etc, then have your dystopian hellscape and Handmaids Tale, as the writer(s) in the article claim isn't happening.
https://pointofview.net/articles/dobbs-after-two-years/
So where did you get this seriously stupid shit from? Was this from Joy Behar from the View? Or Whoopi Goldberg? You must be wearing knee pads from the times you fall on the floor screaming, "Preach Sisters!
LOL. Soy boy, so Taylor Swift is your GF now? Why else make the comparison? And do I have a hot GF or an incel? I know logical thinking is not your strength. Name call your way out of that one Soy Boy.
Wait, I recognize that whining. Spidy, are you Joy Behar? It has to be! That makes so much sense now.
Well, Joy, if anyone would know that, it would have to be you!
In this episode "Paycheck Superhero", drags his economic "top-self" pussy earning "hot girlfriend" sidekick, to once again battle billion dollar economic earning power from the likes of Taylor Swift and Beyoncé? And now Joy Behar?
Is "Paycheck Superhero", weakening and is unable to take a little supervillain whining? As the supervillain found yet another weakness, in the INCEL misogynist "Paycheck Superhero"?
Is it only whining at certain frequencies (like $84 million gov't yachts and big gov't paychecks), that causes our thin-skinned superhero to grimace, wince and lose control?
Is whining just one of many cracks in "Paycheck Superhero"'s thin-skinned facade?
Stay tuned to find out:
• If "Paycheck Superhero" will overcome and combat more supervillain whining?
• Will "Paycheck Superhero", get triggered into yet another "D-BAG" and Joy Behar tirade?
• What form and frequency will the whining resonate at, to the point where it again rattles our superhero and pierce the thinly veiled ego, much like his hero "daddy" Trump. Who coincidentally claims, "I'm really rich..." while begging from his supporters for more and more money (...kkkk!)
• Will "Paycheck Superhero", once again call upon his economic pussy hustling "hot GF"?
• Will his economic pussy hustling sidekick chick, finally reveal herself as:
A. just another economic sidekick,
B. a damsel in economic distress, or
C. an economic INCEL/misogynist crutch, created to boost ISG viewership and approval?
So while you thought this episode was exciting...stay tuned for even more thrilling, economic pussy hustling, gov't paycheck crime fighting adventures of "Paycheck Superhero", courtesy of Elvis 2008.
LOL! Good one Tooms. That may come to pass. But don't count your chickens before they're hatched! Trump is taking this seriously, and his team figured out the ideal way to prepare:
Trump Preps For Debate Against Biden By Going to Nursing Home And Arguing With Dementia Patients
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-preps-for-debate-against-biden-by-going-to-nursing-home-and-arguing-with-dementia-patientsI'll bet Trump is so terrified of the risk it never occurred to him for one minute to defund and remove the Magic Mountain Dew Patrol Teams charged with making sure Biden doesn't sneak in an unmonitored quart before the debate.
BTW, I am already hearing infamously pro Repub Bothsider, former Meet The Press host Chuck Todd, making the rounds to lay the groundwork for the NBC / MSNBC networks to spin whatever loony shark, faucet, lather blather Trump uncontrollably launches into at Thursday's debate as a true and credible worry among the American Electorate, no giggling allowed, it must be taken seriously.
So, never fear, the Trump / Repub coddling and pro Repub Bothsiderism will be in full force during and after the debate. Any "mean" question directed at Trump by those CNN moderators will be cited for their "meanness" on the other networks every bit as much as if Sean Hannity had passed along Putin's scripted response to them.
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-social-media-case
6-3 decision for the government.
"Writing for the majority, Justice Amy Coney Barrett said that the plaintiffs had failed to make the case that the companies' actions could be traced to pressure from the Biden administration. ".
This ruling really cuts into Trumpster / Wingers' ability to continue Mass Murdering as many Americans as they would love to Mass Murder with whatever loony, deadly BS message about Trump's Pandemic virus they can dig up from under a rock and steal elections as Trump's 34 criminal Election Fraud convictions exposed.
Trumpster / Wingers must be absolutely livid about it. Mass Murdering Americans and stealing elections is so much of what has dominated their plans, time and effort since 2016. Now they will have to look for some new workaround to accomplish those goals.
But in the meantime, thanks again for saving millions of American lives and keeping our elections free and fair, Joe. Let's hope, that all that absolute rubbish and looney-tunes Trump's Pandemic virus conspiracy bullshit, finds it way back under a rock.
I live in hope...but I doubt it! As now they'll only want to double-down and amplify the rubbish and bullshit!
Elvis 2008
06-26-24, 22:41
Right now in red states, there are descriptions of doctors performing, some-kind-of trauma inducing C-section (Caesarean section) on women, disguised as a non-abortion procedure, "...to preserve the appearance of not doing an abortion...", instead of prescribing Mifepristone, for fear criminal persecution, is just wild. Not too mention, the large number of doctors now leaving red states, because of abortion bans and the unjust criminal laws surrounding abortions in red states.
So by all means, Elvis 2008, if this kind of "abortion-hack" is acceptable for your girlfriends, mothers, sisters, daughters, wives, cousins, sisters-in-law...etc, then have your dystopian hellscape and Handmaids Tale, as the writer(s) in the article claim isn't happening.OMG. The horror. The horror. Spidy / Joy, if my female loved one needed an abortion, why would I not buy a $100 plane ticket to Vegas and have an abortion on my loved one done there versus this "abortion hack" crap?
And now this WSJ article, Without telehealth, one in seven women would have to drive over 200 miles to the nearest provider. OMG. Say it ain't so. Shouldn't get an abortion be as easy as buying a candy bar? It is soooo hard to get an abortion. Wah, wah! Whine, Whine! Only 1,037,000 Americans got one last year.
Like I said, the days of hysteria are done. Roe v. Wade was overturned and women can get abortions if they want. It may be a little inconvenient but BFD. Why should this be so much easier to get than other medical procedures? I do not want it to be easier than this. Women need to think about this a little bit before they do it.
In the mean time, you Democratic douches have told doctors if they stare at a patient too long, they can get in trouble. Look at a penis too long, and your license is in jeopardy. Fondle it or breasts and your license will be taken for sure. But if you cut off a dick or pair of breasts, you are a progressive surgeon and can get paid tens of thousands. Shouldn't the new Democratic douche model be easier access to people getting their dicks chopped off? The average woman / man has to drive 400 miles to get their breasts cut off. Come on, Spidy / Joy. You need to take the right of gender affirmation surgery to SCOTUS.
If "Paycheck Superhero" will overcome and combat more supervillain whining?
Will "Paycheck Superhero", get triggered into yet another "D-BAG" and Joy Behar tirade?Oh, Joy, did Whoopi steal your vibrator again? Well, I hope you got off after all that mental masturbation. No one wants to read that stupid MM shit.
Elvis 2008
06-26-24, 23:18
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/nx-s1-5003970/supreme-court-social-media-case
6-3 decision for the government.
"Writing for the majority, Justice Amy Coney Barrett said that the plaintiffs had failed to make the case that the companies' actions could be traced to pressure from the Biden administration. ".Writing for a liberal-conservative coalition of six justices, Justice Amy Coney Barrett said that neither the five individuals nor the two states who sued the government had legal standing to be in court at all. She said they presented no proof to back up their claims that the government had pressured social media companies like Twitter and Facebook into restricting their speech. "Unfortunately," she said, the Fifth Circuit court of appeals "relied on factual findings that are "clearly erroneous. ".
In her opinion for the court majority, Justice Barrett said that at every turn, the alleged facts turned to dust, and that the plaintiffs had failed to trace past or potential future harm to anything done by officials at the White House, the CDC, the FBI, or a key cyber security agency.
Thanks for the article, CM, but I think you are reading this wrong. I am not sure I would have ruled any differently if the facts the state governments alleged turned to dust either. Matt Taibbi and other journalists were given the keys to Twitter, and I think this case was filed before that took place. Government did a good job covering its tracks and it took him and others a long time to unravel the whole censorship scheme. I doubt this case had those specific examples.
The facts are out on Covid if anyone looks for them. Democratic douches like Thailand Tooms do not want to understand what happened with Covid, and that is fine. The center at Stanford that was doing much of the censorship has been shut down. Assange has been let go. Biden is playing nice with censorship for now so why pile on? Thing is the Roberts Court has a history of ruling one for Dems and one for Republicans, and they are going to catch a lot of flak if they have to intervene in the New York criminal idiocy, and they will. SCOTUS is dedicated to the people choosing the president and not some NY jury. We not so recently had to endure the idiocy of Colorado Supreme Court and Maine's Secretary of State trying to keep Trump off state's ballots.
I'll bet Trump is so terrified of the risk it never occurred to him for one minute to defund and remove the Magic Mountain Dew Patrol Teams charged with making sure Biden doesn't sneak in an unmonitored quart before the debate.
BTW, I am already hearing infamously pro Repub Bothsider, former Meet The Press host Chuck Todd, making the rounds to lay the groundwork for the NBC / MSNBC networks to spin whatever loony shark, faucet, lather blather Trump uncontrollably launches into at Thursday's debate as a true and credible worry among the American Electorate, no giggling allowed, it must be taken seriously.
So, never fear, the Trump / Repub coddling and pro Repub Bothsiderism will be in full force during and after the debate. Any "mean" question directed at Trump by those CNN moderators will be cited for their "meanness" on the other networks every bit as much as if Sean Hannity had passed along Putin's scripted response to them.My Daddy used to say "if it looks like a Democrat, and it swims like a Democrat, and it quacks like a Democrat, it's a Democrat. " Well, Chuck Todd is a Democrat, no ifs, ands or buts. And MSNBC is Democratic Party Propaganda, 24/7. It's about as "Bothsider" as you or the Marquis de Sade.
"Mountain Dew Patrol Teams" are a great idea in theory. It's the logical beverage of choice for Biden, who may want to quickly (after the drug test) gas up on massive amounts of caffeine. Mountain Dew has more caffeine than tea and cola, and is easier to chug than Red Bull or coffee. Most people don't realize it's a potent stimulant. However, sadly Trump has no control over soft drink distributors. Or for that matter Partisan Democrat Doctors or the Mexican cartels that supply methamphetamines. As such I don't believe your idea is workable for Team Trump.
I'm not sure Biden would want to pursue the "Mountain Dew" option either. If he tanks up on an amount sufficient to improve his performance, he runs the risk of wetting his pants on stage. Undoubtedly though Partisan Democrats Jake Tapper and Dana Bash would lie and come up with an excuse for Joe. Maybe they'd falsely accuse Trump of pissing on his opponent's pant legs.
Shit Tiny! Every day I keep learning new things about myself. At my ripe age that can't be healthy.First Spidy and now you. I need to open a psychology practice to help Democrats with self awareness. Look at your posts in the Stupid Shit in Kyiv thread. And don't take it as an insult. Most of the people in this thread are neoconservatives. The only exceptions I can think of during the time I've posted here are JustTK, DramaFree, me, and possibly Elvis.
My Daddy used to say "if it looks like a Democrat, and it swims like a Democrat, and it quacks like a Democrat, it's a Democrat. " Well, Chuck Todd is a Democrat, no ifs, ands or buts. And MSNBC is Democratic Party Propaganda, 24/7. It's about as "Bothsider" as you or the Marquis de Sade.
"Mountain Dew Patrol Teams" are a great idea in theory. It's the logical beverage of choice for Biden, who may want to quickly (after the drug test) gas up on massive amounts of caffeine. Mountain Dew has more caffeine than tea and cola, and is easier to chug than Red Bull or coffee. Most people don't realize it's a potent stimulant. However, sadly Trump has no control over soft drink distributors. Or for that matter Partisan Democrat Doctors or the Mexican cartels that supply methamphetamines. As such I don't believe your idea is workable for Team Trump.
I'm not sure Biden would want to pursue the "Mountain Dew" option either. If he tanks up on an amount sufficient to improve his performance, he runs the risk of wetting his pants on stage. Undoubtedly though Partisan Democrats Jake Tapper and Dana Bash would lie and come up with an excuse for Joe. Maybe they'd falsely accuse Trump of pissing on his opponent's pant legs.In the modern pro Repub Mainstream Media world, it might be a good time for your Daddy to fine tune and update that concept:
"If it looks like a Democrat, and it swims like a Democrat, and it quacks like a Democrat, hire him to "Bothsides" as many Repubs Into election victory as possible so we can get plenrty of those "Once in 100 Years Repub Disaster Has Struck!" Headlines we crave. ".
If Trump squeaks out an EC win by less than 45,000 -78,000 votes sprinkled among 2-3 battleground states, which is MSM's dream "neck in neck" horse race business model for every general election, in fact is how many votes decided each of the previous two presidential elections and why they are under immense corporate pressure to be as pro Repub Bothsider as necessary to get it there and keep it there, I will be blaming Chuck Todd, Bill Maher and other MSM pundits as much as the foolish voters who fell for their methods for bringing us back to the next Great Repub Depression / Great Repub Recession and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction.
Those are great headlines and comedy monologue topics for MSM to attract more eyes and ears to their product. But they are really shifty outcomes for America. They will never get that if a Dem is in the White House and they know it.
First Spidy and now you. I need to open a psychology practice to help Democrats with self awareness. Look at your posts in the Stupid Shit in Kyiv thread. And don't take it as an insult. Most of the people in this thread are neoconservatives. The only exceptions I can think of during the time I've posted here are JustTK, DramaFree, me, and possibly Elvis.Interesting. So my opposition to a state and a leader that started a full-blown, unprovoked war in Europe makes me a neoconservative? I wonder how you'd brand people who had strong reservations against Hitler back in the day.
P.S. I'm a left-leaning centrist, not Democrat, and I've said that before.
Interesting. So my opposition to a state and a leader that started a full-blown, unprovoked war in Europe makes me a neoconservative? I wonder how you'd brand people who had strong reservations against Hitler back in the day.
P.S. I'm a left-leaning centrist, not Democrat, and I've said that before.Again, please don't take it as an insult. As you correctly imply I'm a borderline pacifist who believes the USA generally shouldn't interfere in other countries' affairs. That is, it should be like Switzerland. And that's viewed more negatively by most Americans than "interventionist" or "neoconservative. " That's not the first time the Hitler analogy's been directed at me. A good friend, an ex-paratrooper, said something similar back in 2003 when I said Bush was dead wrong to go into Iraq.
Was the war in Ukraine unprovoked? Or was it the result of meddling and false promises by American and European governments dating back to 1990? Russia would be a member of NATO if our leaders and military and defense establishments hadn't wanted to preserve the status quo (hostility toward the Russians) at all costs.
What's the difference between a rational Democrat and a left-leaning centrist if he votes and lives in the USA? Who do you vote for? Those are rhetorical questions, I'm just engaging in my new hobby, amateur psychology to help Democrats become more self aware.
"Centrist" would imply that you'd be more likely to vote for, say, Kyrsten Sinema than Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. And Kyrsten's now an ex-Democrat. So maybe I was wrong. Hard to tell.
But it wasn't until Clinton's 2nd term as POTUS that I fully recovered and vowed never to vote for a non Democrat again. Ever. At any level.
Those are great headlines and comedy monologue topics for MSM to attract more eyes and ears to their product. But they are really shifty outcomes for America. They will never get that if a Dem is in the White House and they know it.I'm not sure what you mean by "shifty outcomes," but you're missing the big picture. A Democratic president usually isn't a bad outcome, PROVIDED Republicans control Congress, or at least one house. You missed that about Clinton's 2nd term, which was very positive. Without the Republicans, Clinton wouldn't have balanced the budget, reformed welfare or cut the capital gains tax. McCarthy and Republicans managed to claw back $1. 5 trillion of Democrats' profligate spending last year while Biden was president. A Democratic President and Republican Congress isn't a bad combination from the perspective of controlling the deficit. When you put one party in complete power, the bastards spend like drunken sailors. No offense to drunken sailors. And the Democrats are worse than Republicans.
Your MSM argument doesn't make a lot of sense. The corporations only care about profits. They're trying to sell commercials. And they'll sell more if they appeal to their viewership. MSNBC viewers don't want to hear the views of a bunch of Republicans so you're not going to see many Republicans or "both siders" on MSNBC. And vice versa for Fox. Your side has the advantage that journalists overwhelmingly identify as Democrats. I read a WSJ article the other day which went to great lengths to point out Trump's big lie, and had a chuckle when I thought about what you wrote here, that the WSJ NEWS reporters have a Republican bias. I'm shaking my head about your view on Chuck Todd as well. He got Ronna McDaniel fired, for goodness sake.
I'm not sure what you mean by "shifty outcomes," but you're missing the big picture. A Democratic president usually isn't a bad outcome, PROVIDED Republicans control Congress, or at least one house. You missed that about Clinton's 2nd term, which was very positive. Without the Republicans, Clinton wouldn't have balanced the budget, reformed welfare or cut the capital gains tax. McCarthy and Republicans managed to claw back $1. 5 trillion of Democrats' profligate spending last year while Biden was president. A Democratic President and Republican Congress isn't a bad combination from the perspective of controlling the deficit. When you put one party in complete power, the bastards spend like drunken sailors. No offense to drunken sailors. And the Democrats are worse than Republicans.
Your MSM argument doesn't make a lot of sense. The corporations only care about profits. They're trying to sell commercials. And they'll sell more if they appeal to their viewership. MSNBC viewers don't want to hear the views of a bunch of Republicans so you're not going to see many Republicans or "both siders" on MSNBC. And vice versa for Fox. Your side has the advantage that journalists overwhelmingly identify as Democrats. I read a WSJ article the other day which went to great lengths to point out Trump's big lie, and had a chuckle when I thought about what you wrote here, that the WSJ NEWS reporters have a Republican bias. I'm shaking my head about your view on Chuck Todd as well. He got Ronna McDaniel fired, for goodness sake."Shifty outcomes" was simply this site's auto-correct version of what I actually wrote, "sh*tty outcomes" that I did not catch until before I submitted the post. Since my posts are held for moderation, I don't see the posted version of them for several hours after I submit them and I can not edit them.
I should stick to accurately describing Repub potus economic results as "crap" or "crappy". The auto-correct feature here seems to be ok with that.
Nope. History shows a Dem president with a Dem Congress is just fine. Any encroachment by Repubs in Congess, however effectively the Dem president overrides their efforts to destroy the economy, as Clinton so successfully defeated Nude Grinbitch's efforts at every turn, is utterly beside the point. Clinton's economy would have been immeasurably better with a Dem-controlled Congress for all 8 years. As would Obama's.
The absolute worst combination is a Repub president with a Repub House and Senate. LOL. Do you actually think the Party that, when left to its own devices produced the absolute worst economic results in USA history and NONE of the many Great American legislative achievements I have cited several times here that Dems achieved when they controlled the WH and both Houses of Congress, would suddenly and miraculously behave themselves and not devote their entire time to creating the same historically crap results when a Dem is in the WH? LOL. They can only slow down or lessen the positive economic achievements of the Dem president, that's all.
Allowing Repubs any meaningful presence in Congress while the Dem in the WH is achieving great things for America only fools careless observers into thinking Repubs might not be so bad after all, even ok enough to be trusted in the WH again or maybe in the WH and controlling one or both Houses of Congress.
And once America has been lulled into that state of complacency, bingo, another colossal Repub economic disaster follows.
Too risky.
Better to just have a Dem in the WH and Dems controlling both Houses of Congress at all times. At most, America should have no more than 25-30% Repubs in each House of Congress and, it should go without saying, never a Repub in the WH.
You're still not getting how the typically pro Repub MSM Bothsiderism works. Of course many pundits on MSM walk, talk and swim like Democrats. They would come across as utterly ignorant numbskulls if they didn't. Leave that to Fux News.
But as an election approaches, that is when they trot out the pro Repub Bothsiderism in order to at least keep the horse race tight, sometimes so much the Repub wins. Their business model requires it. Worst case scenario (for America) is they keep the horse race so close the Repub actually wins. But that is also great for the MSM business model in that there will be plenty of horrific, bad news headlines for them to publish that will attract eyes and ears to their product.
Starting around the middle of Reagan's 1st term in office there is no way a Repub presidential candidate should have gotten more than 30% of the vote. By rights it should have been a blowout victory for the Dem every time since then. But it is really hard for MSM to get customers very excited over a race between a horse and a turtle. Consequently, MSM's ultimate election season mission is to elevate Repubs and their crap results and denigrate Dems and their far superior results in order to keep the race close.
LOL. Polls show a huge percentage of respondents thinking the Stock Market is down this year instead of repeatedly closing at All-Time Record Highs, that the Unemployment Rate is at a 50 year high instead of at or near 50 year lows, that Repubs are better at handling the economy than Dems, that Trump is better at defending democracy than Biden and a whole slew of utterly preposterous conclusions contrary to all available data and easily observable reality. That can not happen unless MSM is working overtime to put or allow that silliness to enter Americans' minds.
Elvis 2008
06-27-24, 18:44
First Spidy and now you. I need to open a psychology practice to help Democrats with self awareness. Look at your posts in the Stupid Shit in Kyiv thread. And don't take it as an insult. Most of the people in this thread are neoconservatives. The only exceptions I can think of during the time I've posted here are JustTK, DramaFree, me, and possibly Elvis.Maybe you can get through to them. I cannot. If you look at the three legs of the stool of the Republican Party, excessive defense, social conservatism / religious fundamentalism, and fiscal conservatism / libertarianism, I only am for the last set. My ideal politicians are Rand and Ron Paul.
What you call neoconservatives Tiny are really a group led by prowar Eastern European Jews. They swayed GW Bush after 9-11 and they got their wish of killing and torturing as many Arabs, and often innocent Arabs, as possible. Once I saw what this movement was, it made a mockery of GWB and his compassionate conservatism. Because of his civil rights abuses and shitty economic policies, I could not wait to see GWB go.
Thing is the necons just switched parties. All that Biden is doing is out of the GWB playbook. Karl Rove was fired for using prosecutors to hunt down political opposition. We are seeing massive expenditures once again for foreign wars. The tension that Trump brought down in the world has ramped up again. The conservative kooks have been replaced by liberal kooks.
9-11 was a tragedy and so was October 7. Thing is in both cases the response has not been to get those responsible but kill as many Arabs as possible. So the neocons have started waving their antisemitism flags now again while they are excessively killing Arabs, and it is not being bought this time. The truth is Biden is just as prowar as GWB was and with the exception of the LGBTQ stuff, Biden has more in common with GWB than an other recent president because they are both being led around by the nose by the necocons.
With you, Tiny, I think our biggest difference is you are not libertarian enough. You still buy the government narrative and bullshit when it destroyed our freedoms over a cold virus with a 0. 2% mortality. I think Fauci is as evil as Nazi doctors were and funded the creation of the Covid virus and caused the pandemic while you think he is a hero.
First Spidy and now you. I need to open a psychology practice to help Democrats with self awareness. Look at your posts in the Stupid Shit in Kyiv thread. And don't take it as an insult. Most of the people in this thread are neoconservatives. The only exceptions I can think of during the time I've posted here are JustTK, DramaFree, me, and possibly Elvis.
Now that's hilariously funny! You, Tiny 12, open up a "psychology practice", when you can barely get past your own oxymoron "Republican Libertarian" identity issues. (...kkkk!)
That opinionated nonsense, sounds more like an upcoming episode in "Hypo World", where "Hypo-pathetical Boy", doubles as the gay mild-mannered "Dr. Hypo-Pathetical", by day? (...kkkk!)
OMG. The horror. The horror. Spidy / Joy, if my female loved one needed an abortion, why would I not buy a $100 plane ticket to Vegas and have an abortion on my loved one done there versus this "abortion hack" crap?
And now this WSJ article, Without telehealth, one in seven women would have to drive over 200 miles to the nearest provider. OMG. Say it ain't so. Shouldn't get an abortion be as easy as buying a candy bar? It is soooo hard to get an abortion. Wah, wah! Whine, Whine! Only 1,037,000 Americans got one last year.
Like I said, the days of hysteria are done. Roe v. Wade was overturned and women can get abortions if they want. It may be a little inconvenient but BFD. Why should this be so much easier to get than other medical procedures? I do not want it to be easier than this. Women need to think about this a little bit before they do it.
Not sure that "$100 plane ticket" is gonna do any good, if she decides to go out of state or decides to keep the pregnancy and (if God forbid) has complications or miscarriages in the 2nd or 3rd trimester.
So let's get (like $10k) REAL, for just a moment now:
Out of State:
Gas, food, and a hotel: Americans seeking an abortion out of state already shell out up to $10,000 ($10K) for the procedure. Experts warn that cost could rise. https://www.businessinsider.com/abortion-costs-roe-v-wade-out-of-state-supreme-court-2022-5?international=true&r=US&IR=T
In State (Blue State if your lucky):
"An in-clinic abortion can cost up to around $800 in the first trimester, but its often less. The average cost of a first trimester in-clinic abortion at Planned Parenthood is about $600. The cost of a second trimester abortion at Planned Parenthood varies depending on how many weeks pregnant you are. The average ranges from about $715 earlier in the second trimester to $1,500-2,000 later in the second trimester."
"Your abortion may be free or low-cost with health insurance. But coverage for abortion varies depending on a lot of factors, like the laws where you live, what type of insurance you have, and the reason you need an abortion."
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/blog/how-much-does-it-cost-to-get-an-abortion
Since your idea of an out of state abortion, is a "$100 plane ticket", nobody is expecting either an INCEL or misogynist and least of all you Elvis 2008, to fully understand what is playing out, in the struggle for abortion rights with American families and hospitals, around the country, post Roe v Wade.
It is especially in red states, where emergency rooms refused to treat pregnant women, leaving many to miscarry in a lobby restroom. Or another woman who learned that her fetus had no heartbeat at a Florida hospital, the day after a security guard turned her away from the facility. And in North Carolina, a woman gave birth in a car after an emergency room couldnt offer an ultrasound. The baby later died.
Two years after Roe was struck down, the conversation has focused on the complications that can come with pregnancy and fertility, helping to drive more support for abortion rights.
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Only now, two years after the Supreme Court eliminated the constitutional right to abortion, and just six months before the presidential election, has the slogan taken on the force of reality.
The public conversation about abortion has grown into one about the complexities of pregnancy and reproduction, as the consequences of bans have played out in the news. The question is no longer just whether you can get an abortion, but also, Can you get one if pregnancy complications put you in septic shock? Can you find an obstetrician when so many are leaving states with bans? If you miscarry, will the hospital send you home to bleed? Can you and your partner do in vitro fertilization?
Abortion Debate Shifts as Election Nears: Now Its About Pregnancy June 24, 2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/24/us/politics/abortion-roe-wade-pregnancy.html
In this episode of "Paycheck Superhero":
In the mean time, you Democratic douches have told doctors if they stare at a patient too long, they can get in trouble. Look at a penis too long, and your license is in jeopardy. Fondle it or breasts and your license will be taken for sure. But if you cut off a dick or pair of breasts, you are a progressive surgeon and can get paid tens of thousands. Shouldn't the new Democratic douche model be easier access to people getting their dicks chopped off? The average woman / man has to drive 400 miles to get their breasts cut off. Come on, Spidy / Joy. You need to take the right of gender affirmation surgery to SCOTUS.
Oh, Joy, did Whoopi steal your vibrator again? Well, I hope you got off after all that mental masturbation. No one wants to read that stupid MM shit.
It looks like the supervillain, has cracked that "nut" and found, one of many in "Paycheck Superhero"'s weaknesses. One of them is indeed "whining"!!!
It would seem, the more supervillains whine, the angrier the outbursts and tirades get. {...Here's hoping he doesn't get angry, large and green at the same time...kkkk!}
Stay Tuned to find out:
• Will our "Paycheck Superhero", really live up to his superhero status and shell-out the $10K big paycheck, required for an out of state abortion, for his economic pussy hustling sidekick chick?
• Will the supervillains be able to exploit this weakness before "Paycheck Superhero" can get help?
• Will "Paycheck Superhero" overcome his mental and emotional psychological affliction to whining? And Joy Behar?
• Will "Paycheck Superhero" write a big-fat paycheck, to see his gay buddy "Dr. Hypo-Pathetical", at his newly formed "psychology practice" over in "Hypo World"?
• What (if any) superhero meds will "Dr. Hypo-Pathetical" prescribe? And what's the cure for "Paycheck Superhero"'s Joy Behar fixation?
• Will "Dr. Hypo-Pathetical", he tell his gay superhero pal (as he tells all his patients), "...it's all in your head. You're not who you think you are. You're really just a neoconservative!" (...kkkk!)
Stay Tuned...
Elvis 2008
06-28-24, 00:52
Not sure that "$100 plane ticket" is gonna do any good, if she decides to go out of state or decides to keep the pregnancyUh, if she keeps the kid, she does not need a $100 plane ticket. It sounds like you have given up the abortion fight.
It is especially in red states, where emergency rooms refused to treat pregnant women, leaving many to miscarry in a lobby restroom.Okay, so we are talking miscarriages now and not planned abortions. I guess blue states do not have women with miscarriages then. What is the cure for miscarriages Spidy / Joy? Because I have not heard of any cures.
Or another woman who learned that her fetus had no heartbeat at a Florida hospital, the day after a security guard turned her away from the facility. And in North Carolina, a woman gave birth in a car after an emergency room couldnt offer an ultrasound. The baby later died.So now the diagnostic test of ultrasound saves lives? Cough, cough. Uh okay. Thank God you can buy your own ultrasound on Groupon for a whopping $9. 99. Here is a deluxe model going for $39.99, https://www.fetaldoppler.net/fd-200b.html.
The public conversation about abortion has grown into one about the complexities of pregnancy and reproduction, as the consequences of bans have played out in the news.The banned procedure that over a million Americans had last year. Gee, lie much?
Can you get one if pregnancy complications put you in septic shock? Can you find an obstetrician when so many are leaving states with bans? If you miscarry, will the hospital send you home to bleed? Can you and your partner do in vitro fertilization?IVF? LOL. You got to be fucking kidding me. Who is for banning that? Or treating septic shock?
In fact, the only thing I see in the abortion universe is when a woman has a miscarriage and does not fully expel the fetus. That can be a bloody mess, and the doctor would have to scrape the uterus to get out all that fetal tissue to stop the bleeding. Thing is that is the same procedure as performing an abortion. The concept that a woman bleeding to death is not being treated is fucking hysterical.
On the flip side, maybe you are taking about doctors who break the law and find a nurse who will on purpose not found a fetal heart beat, claim a miscarriage is ongoing, and perform not an evacuation of a miscarriage, but a full on live abortion and bill for it in a red state that bans abortion? Yeah, fuck that greedy piece of shit. Where is your "rule of law" bullshit now?
Will "Dr. Hypo-Pathetical", he tell his gay superhero pal (as he tells all his patients), "...it's all in your head. You're not who you think you are. You're really just a neoconservative! (...kkkk!)
Stay Tuned...Joy, Joy, Joy, we talked about this. I am begging you to get your lithium level checked.
Again, please don't take it as an insult. As you correctly imply I'm a borderline pacifist who believes the USA generally shouldn't interfere in other countries' affairs. That is, it should be like Switzerland. And that's viewed more negatively by most Americans than "interventionist" or "neoconservative. " That's not the first time the Hitler analogy's been directed at me. A good friend, an ex-paratrooper, said something similar back in 2003 when I said Bush was dead wrong to go into Iraq.
Was the war in Ukraine unprovoked? Or was it the result of meddling and false promises by American and European governments dating back to 1990? Russia would be a member of NATO if our leaders and military and defense establishments hadn't wanted to preserve the status quo (hostility toward the Russians) at all costs.
What's the difference between a rational Democrat and a left-leaning centrist if he votes and lives in the USA? Who do you vote for? Those are rhetorical questions, I'm just engaging in my new hobby, amateur psychology to help Democrats become more self aware.
"Centrist" would imply that you'd be more likely to vote for, say, Kyrsten Sinema than Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. And Kyrsten's now an ex-Democrat. So maybe I was wrong. Hard to tell.Well, you're almost right. Not for Sinema, because I don't believe she's honest, but I wouldn't vote for AOC or any of them squad be*ches ever. I wouldn't vote for someone like Menendez who I might agree with politically (mostly), but I won't vote for a crook.
Being an independent centrist means I don't follow party lines and hate extremes both on the right and the left. It also means that I somewhat immune to political bullshit on both sides. Hope that helps.
If you honesty believe that Russia was wronged and Putin was legitimately provoked by the West, you need to direct your psychoanalysis toward your inner self. Do you believe that a newly-formed nation must remain in the orbit of its former colonizer, or does it have the right to chose its own destiny? And if it wasn't Russia, but someone smaller, like Serbia -- would you feel the same way?
As for Russia being the part of Nato, that's beyond funny man. Why do you think all former USSR clients ran -- not walk -- toward Nato in the first place?
Calling it Now Senile Fake pres Shit Stained Joe will not show up in June debate or will be so incomprehensible and they shall use this incident to replace him with the scumbag newsome.So Will The scumbag Newsome be the replacement?? Or Kamala?
Uh, if she keeps the kid, she does not need a $100 plane ticket. It sounds like you have given up the abortion fight.
That's right, she won't need $100, she'll need $10K (according to the article, here: https://www.businessinsider.com/abortion-costs-roe-v-wade-out-of-state-supreme-court-2022-5?international=true&r=US&IR=T) , especially if (God forbid) she has complications or miscarriages in the 2nd or 3rd trimester, in a red state.
Here's is a list of other "planned" pregnancy complications, Elvis 2008 and "Economic Pussy Sidekick Chick", might want to "plan" for:
• Amniotic Fluid Complications
• Bleeding
• Ectopic Pregnancy
• Placental Complications
• Fetal Loss (or Miscarriage)
• Preeclampsia or Eclampsia
Just hope she can find a good OBGYN (or competent doctor), in a red state, when the time comes. Cause the good ones are getting the fuck outta Dodge!
Okay, so we are talking miscarriages now and not planned abortions. I guess blue states do not have women with miscarriages then. What is the cure for miscarriages Spidy / Joy? Because I have not heard of any cures. Is there a cure for stupid and ignorance? No, but like miscarriages, they can be treated with the right kind of help! (hint, hint). But in your case, be thankful that, stupid and ignorance isn't necessarily fatal.
So now the diagnostic test of ultrasound saves lives? Cough, cough. Uh okay. Thank God you can buy your own ultrasound on Groupon for a whopping $9. 99. Here is a deluxe model going for $39.99, https://www.fetaldoppler.net/fd-200b.html. That should be good news for "Economic Pussy Sidekick Chick"
The banned procedure that over a million Americans had last year. Gee, lie much?
IVF? LOL. You got to be fucking kidding me. Who is for banning that? Or treating septic shock?
Like I said, nobody is expecting either an INCEL, misogynist or an Elvis 2008, to fully understand pregnancies. As if miscarriages is something families "plan" to have, let alone the myriad of complications that can occur during a pregnancy. So you may as well quit trying to explain yourself!
In fact, the only thing I see in the abortion universe is when a woman has a miscarriage and does not fully expel the fetus. That can be a bloody mess, and the doctor would have to scrape the uterus to get out all that fetal tissue to stop the bleeding. Thing is that is the same procedure as performing an abortion. The concept that a woman bleeding to death is not being treated is fucking hysterical.
On the flip side, maybe you are taking about doctors who break the law and find a nurse who will on purpose not found a fetal heart beat, claim a miscarriage is ongoing, and perform not an evacuation of a miscarriage, but a full on live abortion and bill for it in a red state that bans abortion? Yeah, fuck that greedy piece of shit. Where is your "rule of law" bullshit now?
Sigh!...There's just no accounting for, or explaining the twisted logic of an INCEL, misogynist or that of an Elvis 2008, especially when they declare themselves, the arbiters of women's bodies and health.
Supreme Court officially allows emergency abortions in Idaho, for now, June 27, 2024
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/27/supreme-court-abortion-emergency-room-hospital-impact/
I know women's issues can be a bit of a blind-spot for INCELS, misogynists and Elvis 2008, but take a good look, doctors are fleeing Idaho, Texas emergency rooms and OBGYN's are closing down all over red states, in fear of unjust abortion laws. Women, in red states, should take solace, that SCOTUS just restored emergency room abortion rights...well at least for now.
But I'm sure, as a Repub and a law abiding Texan, who loves to follow The Rule of Law, you'd be the first in line to turn-in said "hot GF", for the $10K abortion bounty, 'cause that's how Repubs like 2x abortion deniers like Herschel Walker roll, right?
In this episode of "Paycheck Superhero":
Joy, Joy, Joy, we talked about this. I am begging you to get your lithium level checked.
It seems "Paycheck Superhero", is coming around to the realization, that the originator of the series "Paycheck Superhero", is one of his own making and based on the originator's alter-ego?
It seems "Paycheck Superhero", is struggling between The Rule of Law and his bank checking account. As he contemplates the $10K abortion bounty and turning-in his econo-pussy sidekick.
But why is "Paycheck Superhero" begging? (It's so undignified!) Did the supervillain's whining finally, get to the superhero? Or was it his Joy Behar fixation?
Stay Tuned to find out:
• Will "Paycheck Superhero", again seek help from his gay buddy "Dr. Hypo-Pathetical", over in "Hypo World"?
• Will "Dr. Hypo-Pathetical", have to again remind "Paycheck Superhero" that "...it just all in your head, son"
• Will "Economic Pussy Sidekick Chick", realize an abortion can take upwards of $10K and not just the $100 plane ticket, "Paycheck Superhero" is lying to her about?
Stay Tuned...
Both candidates were absolutely awful and petty, even arguing over their golf handicaps! Really? Trump dodged question after question and told lie after lie after lie! And Biden was low energy with a hoarse voice and often unable to keep his train of thought. They said he had a bad cold (after the fact), and I'll give him that, but definitely not a good look. Both candidates sucked, and it's hard for me to say that anybody "won". At the end of the day, for me like most people, it's not going to make a difference. I'm a Democrat. I vote for Democratic candidates. When it's for President, my vote isn't just about the one person, but everybody else who they will bring with them too. Joe Biden may belong in an old folks home, but Chump belongs in jail making him (and his not ready for prime time players) the far worse choice in my mind. Biden can stand up there and drool for all I care. Never Trump!
CheckMate1
06-28-24, 15:56
So Will The scumbag Newsome be the replacement?? Or Kamala?Previous debate between these two, Biden looked good. Last night, he was terrible. People get old and he looked more like 101, and not 81.
Calling him a fake president though is nonsense. He delivered a lot of what he said from his last election campaign. You can certainly disagree with those policies, but he got through a lot of legislations.
I stand corrected though, that I thought he would be better than he's shown last night.
Elvis 2008
06-28-24, 16:04
So Will The scumbag Newsome be the replacement?? Or Kamala?Woodman, I honestly thought Biden was not that bad. Thing is I have seen him so much worse than this. , but much of America had not. Well, last night, they did. Thing is the whole bird brained idea of debating Trump was Biden's decision, and I am sure he could not be talked out of it.
To me, the most telling story came when it came to Trump and his golf game. You can catch videos of him playing, and he is really good. Sportswriter Rick Reilly caddied for Trump and wrote about it in a book Who is your Caddy? Reilly talked about Trump using his "useful hyperbole" AKA being the bullshit artist Trump can be. Trump even told Reilly that Reilly would be sick of him after a few days, and Reilly was. LOL. Thing is Reilly also practically pleaded with people not to just buy into the bullshit and reject Trump but listed all of the things Trump had accomplished in his life including being a great golfer. In other words, buried in that bullshit is some really great stuff.
I expected the lying about the economy and the exaggeration / lying from both of them. When it came to the golf thing and Biden said he had a 6 and then 8 handicap, you could see Trump rolling his eyes. He even said it was Biden's worst lie of the night, and to me, it was the most insightful. It was like a 5 year old lying, and Trump told Biden, "Let's not act like children. " This was an exchange of a rational human being and a man who belonged in assisted living filled with delusion. The question was about physical fitness for office, and Biden absolutely lied his ass off when it came to being fit.
So Biden may be demented, but he is a demented bully, and there is no way in hell he is getting out. He still thinks he can beat Trump. He probably thinks he won the debate, and anybody who tries to take him out is going to have an FBI investigation or IRS tax audit.
If Biden tried to tee off, I swear he would miss the ball. At best, he would hit it 4 yards. I do not think he is even physically capable of raising s club above his head. But you know if he tried it and made an ass of himself, he would be yelling at people looking for something or someone to blame.
So you have the idiotic open border policy and its attempt to bring in illegals to vote for him being put up in luxury hotels. You have the stupid notion of criminally prosecuting your opposition, and now you had the incredibly idiotic idea of debating Trump. Well, that is your guy Dems. And guess what? You are fucking stuck with him because he ain't going anywhere.
Previous debate between these two, Biden looked good. Last night, he was terrible. People get old and he looked more like 101, and not 81.
Calling him a fake president though is nonsense. He delivered a lot of what he said from his last election campaign. You can certainly disagree with those policies, but he got through a lot of legislations.
I stand corrected though, that I thought he would be better than he's shown last night.Remember that Obama lost his first debate against Romney too but came back to win. What goes down in a debate does not dictate the outcome of an election. It's one of many pieces. I have no doubt that Biden will do much better in September. But again, at the end of the day, I don't think most minds are going to be swayed either way. It's just not a good match up, and I wish there were better choices on both sides. But, it is what it is, and people are going to vote along party lines. It's going to be close, and I say whoever wins Pennsylvania (I have Biden), Wisconsin (I have Biden) and Michigan (too close to call) takes the election.
Previous debate between these two, Biden looked good. Last night, he was terrible. People get old and he looked more like 101, and not 81.
Calling him a fake president though is nonsense. He delivered a lot of what he said from his last election campaign. You can certainly disagree with those policies, but he got through a lot of legislations.
I stand corrected though, that I thought he would be better than he's shown last night.For anyone interested in substance in a debate, right off the top of my head, this is what I heard in those 90 minutes:
1. Biden will veto any ChristoFacist Repub attempt to outlaw Sex For Pleasure / a National Abortion Ban.
2. Biden will work to make Roe v Wade the law of the land.
3. Biden will raise taxes slightly on the wealthy (likely on greater then $400,000 in taxable income) to keep Social Security solvent for decades with no other changes necessary.
4. Biden will again reduce child / family poverty by extending the Child Tax Credit.
5. Biden will veto any attempt to abolish the Affordable Care Act.
6. Biden will continue to cut costs for many necessary, life-saving drugs.
7. Trump will do none of the above.
8. Trump told 1-2 lies in virtually every sentence he uttered.
9. Trump had to he chased around the horn by the moderators, repeatedly asking the same question for him to at least say something remotely related to the question asked.
10. Trump did not reveal this, Biden did, but Trump plans to raise taxes on everyone in America by slapping tariffs on practically everything.
11. Trump apparently does not know what a tariff is or who pays them. He still thinks China paid his tariffs.
12. Sixteen Nobel Prize Economists have explained that Trump plan will most assuredly trigger a huge Repub Recession and spike up inflation beyond his own Trump's Pandemic Inflation.
13. Trump mentioned no other plan if he gets a second term.
You think only 33% saying Biden won is bad?
Majority of debate watchers say Trump won debate over Biden: CNN Poll.
June 28, 2024
https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/majority-of-debate-watchers-say-trump-won-debate-over-biden-cnn-poll-124062800222_1.html
Sixty-seven per cent to 33 per cent of the registered debate watchers said that Trump turned in a better performance, according to a CNN flash poll conducted by SSRS.How about this?
Romneys Strong Debate Performance Erases Obamas Lead.
GOP Challenger Viewed as Candidate with New Ideas.
Oct. 8, 2012
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2012/10/08/romneys-strong-debate-performance-erases-obamas-lead/
Fully 66% of registered voters say Romney did the better job in last Wednesdays debate, compared with just 20% who say Obama did better.And, of course, Obama went on to win re-election over Romney.
Was there Dem panic back in Oct. 2012? Yep.
Oh, and Romney wasn't a 34 time felon convicted of conspiracy to commit Election Fraud in order to steal a presidential election, found liable for rape, did not incite a violent mob of cop-killing Insurrectionists to storm the Capitol, stalk top elected officials for their public execution, overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American democracy and so on while he sat on his butt and did nothing except enjoy the show for 3+ hours and did not lie 1-2 times in every sentence he uttered at that debate.
Perhaps typically pro Repub Mainstream Media will take a moment or two someday to recall that.
Elvis 2008
06-28-24, 18:31
That's right, she won't need $100, she'll need $10K (according to the article, here: https://www.businessinsider.com/abortion-costs-roe-v-wade-out-of-state-supreme-court-2022-5?international=true&r=US&IR=T) , especially if (God forbid) she has complications or miscarriages in the 2nd or 3rd trimester, in a red state.
Here's is a list of other "planned" pregnancy complications, Elvis 2008 and "Economic Pussy Sidekick Chick", might want to "plan" for:
Amniotic Fluid Complications
Bleeding
Ectopic Pregnancy
Placental Complications
Fetal Loss (or Miscarriage)
Preeclampsia or Eclampsia
Just hope she can find a good OBGYN (or competent doctor), in a red state, when the time comes. Cause the good ones are getting the fuck outta Dodge!And here you go again. You know NOTHING about medicine. First off, you have lied and lost on abortion. Second, you make this completely idiotic comment that Obs are all Democratic loving douches like yourself.
Quite frankly, the OB field is filled with losers who could not get into orthopedics, men who want to control women at their most vulnerable, and female lesbians looking to score. Thank God they are in that field because women in Africa somehow make it by with childbirth and unlike orthopedists who often are operating on seniors, OB / Gyns are operating on young women and have a large margin for error because their patients are so healthy. They have a reputation for being the WORST surgeons there are.
And with regards to medicine and not surgery, their training is pure shit. They do little if any training in intensive medicine. They are not medicine people but surgeons and their prescribing habits, which are often horrible, reflect that. Again, because their patients are so healthy they get away with prescribing stupidly.
The exceptions to the rule are the positive doctors who look at being an OB as bringing life into the world. They thrive on the joy of child birth and are usually very religious. They often are prominent members in their church and are known and loved within their communities. And this may shock you, but these doctors fucking HATE abortion. They do not do it and do not want to. But if a member of their congregation has an incomplete miscarriage they would not treat it? Are you out of your fucking mind?
And then your is your idiotic contention that right wing religious groups do not want good prenatal care and IVF? Again, you are out of your fucking mind.
Lastly, the doctors making a living on abortion are by and large the biggest scumbags in medicine. Yeah, doing abortions may be legal but it does not means those doctors are respected. And those are the people you are insisting on being good doctors? Again, you know nothing. You just parade around pretending to be prowoman while mirroring feminazi talking points.
Elvis 2008
06-28-24, 18:39
Both candidates were absolutely awful and petty, even arguing over their golf handicaps! Really? Trump dodged question after question and told lie after lie after lie! And Biden was low energy with a hoarse voice and often unable to keep his train of thought. They said he had a bad cold (after the fact), and I'll give him that, but definitely not a good look. Both candidates sucked, and it's hard for me to say that anybody "won".LOL. You are blind. Look at what Dems are saying. The New York Times op-ed page was an unbroken mass of calls for Biden to step down. "President Biden, I've Seen Enough," declared Nicholas Kristof. "Joe Biden Is a Good Man and a Good President. He Must Bow Out of the Race," agreed Thomas Friedman. "Biden Cannot Go on Like This," was Frank Bruni's offering. The Times "Matter of Opinion" podcast saw Ross Douthat, Michelle Cottle, and Ezra Klein unite under an "I Don't Think Joe Biden should be running" headline. Calling Biden "ancient," Michelle Goldberg added, "There will now be a new chorus of cries for him to drop out, and I'll be joining it. ".
It was the same thing all over. The Atlantic headlines were "Time to Go, Joe" by Mark Leibovich, and "Dropping Out is Joe Biden's Most Patriotic Option" by Jerusalem Demsas. At the Washington Post Ramesh Ponnuru's construction, which will be popular, was, "Trump is too dangerous for Democrats to stick with Biden. ".
At the end of the day, for me like most people, it's not going to make a difference. I'm a Democrat. I vote for Democratic candidates.IOW, you do not vote for your candidate. You just go with whomever the party bigwigs select, kind of like China or Russia.
Joe Biden may belong in an old folks home, but Chump belongs in jail making him (and his not ready for prime time players) the far worse choice in my mind. Biden can stand up there and drool for all I care. Never Trump!This is the best description of a Democratic douche I have ever heard. You do not give a damn if a person is mentally competent to do the job of being a president. You literally want a system like Russia or China with one party rule where the head of the party, even if he is incompetent, rules. You douches talk about saving Democracy when you would not know what Democracy is if it bit you in the ass.
Biden is up 1 point in this poll vs his pre debate rating in it.
I get this is what 60% "want". But even if they don't get that, there is no indication (yet) that they will not still vote for him over Trump.
60% of voters want Biden replaced as candidate after debate, poll says.
https://www.axios.com/2024/06/29/biden-democrat-candidate-replacement-poll
When the survey asked respondents to choose between Biden and former President Trump, 45% chose the president and 44% chose the former commander-in-chief.
The results were similar to those from a poll following Trump's criminal conviction on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records linked to a $130,000 hush money payment.
That shows "President Joe Biden has lost no immediate ground to Trump," per Morning Consult's findings.Oh, Fun Fact: it turns out not many people watched that debate:
TV Ratings: Biden-Trump Debate Draws 51M Viewers, Way Below 2020
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/biden-trump-first-2024-debate-tv-ratings-1235934892/
And it is likely very few of them were undecideds anyway since they are not known to be so into politics that they bother to watch debates.
Sure, if they didn't watch even a minute of the debate, they will certainly be exposed to plenty of sound bite ads taken from that debate.
And on that point, I could easily identify a dozen sound bites from that debate of Biden touting a planned policy for his 2nd term that would be very popular with voters.
I can not recall even one from Trump.
However, there are many, many easy sound bite lifts from that debate of Trump proclaiming that "America SUCKS"!
Just sayin'.
LOL. You are blind. Look at what Dems are saying. The New York Times op-ed page was an unbroken mass of calls for Biden to step down. "President Biden, I've Seen Enough," declared Nicholas Kristof. "Joe Biden Is a Good Man and a Good President. He Must Bow Out of the Race," agreed Thomas Friedman. "Biden Cannot Go on Like This," was Frank Bruni's offering. The Times "Matter of Opinion" podcast saw Ross Douthat, Michelle Cottle, and Ezra Klein unite under an "I Don't Think Joe Biden should be running" headline. Calling Biden "ancient," Michelle Goldberg added, "There will now be a new chorus of cries for him to drop out, and I'll be joining it. ".
It was the same thing all over. The Atlantic headlines were "Time to Go, Joe" by Mark Leibovich, and "Dropping Out is Joe Biden's Most Patriotic Option" by Jerusalem Demsas. At the Washington Post Ramesh Ponnuru's construction, which will be popular, was, "Trump is too dangerous for Democrats to stick with Biden. ".
IOW, you do not vote for your candidate. You just go with whomever the party bigwigs select, kind of like China or Russia.
This is the best description of a Democratic douche I have ever heard. You do not give a damn if a person is mentally competent to do the job of being a president. You literally want a system like Russia or China with one party rule where the head of the party, even if he is incompetent, rules. You douches talk about saving Democracy when you would not know what Democracy is if it bit you in the ass.I assure you neither the authoritarian system in Russia nor the authoritarian system in China have the least bit of affinity with an American who intelligently chooses to only vote for candidates from the one Party that has produced the best results in America and none of the Great Repub Disasters rather than any person willing to vote for a member of the Party that has led directly to every Great American Economic Disaster of the past 100 years AND the corrupt justices bent on eliminating American freedom and rights instead of protecting and expanding them.
You do know that the very countries' evil systems you cited are not now and never have helped Biden or the Dem Party win elections but do actively hack, spin and help Trump and the Repub Party, right?
If, as you appear to be saying, you really are against what evil Russia and evil China want to spread around the globe you too would never vote for THEIR beloved Repub Party candidates and only vote for Dems.
That's right. I have actually done more to prevent the spread of Russia / China-style authoritarian rule in America all the way here in Thailand with my mail-in ballots than you have with any vote for any Repub at any time and especially for Donald Trump in your home town in America.
MarquisdeSade1
06-29-24, 05:20
LOL. You are blind. Look at what Dems are saying. The New York Times op-ed page was an unbroken mass of calls for Biden to step down. "President Biden, I've Seen Enough," declared Nicholas Kristof. "Joe Biden Is a Good Man and a Good President. He Must Bow Out of the Race," agreed Thomas Friedman. "Biden Cannot Go on Like This," was Frank Bruni's offering. The Times "Matter of Opinion" podcast saw Ross Douthat, Michelle Cottle, and Ezra Klein unite under an "I Don't Think Joe Biden should be running" headline. Calling Biden "ancient," Michelle Goldberg added, "There will now be a new chorus of cries for him to drop out, and I'll be joining it. ".
It was the same thing all over. The Atlantic headlines were "Time to Go, Joe" by Mark Leibovich, and "Dropping Out is Joe Biden's Most Patriotic Option" by Jerusalem Demsas. At the Washington Post Ramesh Ponnuru's construction, which will be popular, was, "Trump is too dangerous for Democrats to stick with Biden. ".
IOW, you do not vote for your candidate. You just go with whomever the party bigwigs select, kind of like China or Russia.
This is the best description of a Democratic douche I have ever heard. You do not give a damn if a person is mentally competent to do the job of being a president. You literally want a system like Russia or China with one party rule where the head of the party, even if he is incompetent, rules. You douches talk about saving Democracy when you would not know what Democracy is if it bit you in the ass.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/28/opinion/biden-election-debate-trump.html
LOL. You are blind. Look at what Dems are saying. The New York Times op-ed page was an unbroken mass of calls for Biden to step down. "President Biden, I've Seen Enough," declared Nicholas Kristof. "Joe Biden Is a Good Man and a Good President. He Must Bow Out of the Race," agreed Thomas Friedman. "Biden Cannot Go on Like This," was Frank Bruni's offering. The Times "Matter of Opinion" podcast saw Ross Douthat, Michelle Cottle, and Ezra Klein unite under an "I Don't Think Joe Biden should be running" headline. Calling Biden "ancient," Michelle Goldberg added, "There will now be a new chorus of cries for him to drop out, and I'll be joining it. ".
It was the same thing all over. The Atlantic headlines were "Time to Go, Joe" by Mark Leibovich, and "Dropping Out is Joe Biden's Most Patriotic Option" by Jerusalem Demsas. At the Washington Post Ramesh Ponnuru's construction, which will be popular, was, "Trump is too dangerous for Democrats to stick with Biden. ".
IOW, you do not vote for your candidate. You just go with whomever the party bigwigs select, kind of like China or Russia.
This is the best description of a Democratic douche I have ever heard. You do not give a damn if a person is mentally competent to do the job of being a president. You literally want a system like Russia or China with one party rule where the head of the party, even if he is incompetent, rules. You douches talk about saving Democracy when you would not know what Democracy is if it bit you in the ass.No, you see I make up my own mind. The New York Times, FOX News or whatever doesn't tell me what to do. And can you read and comprehend? I do vote for my candidate plus the people that I expect they will bring along with them as a part of their administration. And talk about being blind. It's a two party system that we have and I don't do anything in it that you don't. And that's vote for which of the two parties that routinely best represents me and my interests. That's no doubt the Democratic Party and not the Repukeian party.
So you go ahead and vote for your unqualified, dictatorial but mentally competent incompetent felon and "all the best people" he would bring with him. And I'm going to vote for the one whose people stand for democracy, the rule of law, and the peaceful transfer of power. Touche douche! Four more years of Democratic rule over cowardly, morally bankrupt, tyrannical Repukeians who've proven they can't govern and who won't stop at denying women the right to choose.
You see, now they want to make the Bible the centerpiece of education in America too violating yet another foundation of this country's basic founding. That would be the separation of church and state. We may as well be living in some corrupt theocracy like Afghanistan or Iran! The only ones with Trump Derangement Syndrome are dolts just like you who would jump off a cliff for Chump if he asked you too. Just like the followers of other crooks like Hitler or Tojo. Trump says himself he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and ignorant sheep followers like you wouldn't care. And he knows it and says it out loud. You're too ignorant to realize he's not looking out for you. He's out for himself, and that's not who or what the world needs as the leader of the free world. A "mentality competent" piece of shit. Touche douche! Touche!
Biden may be not long ready for the old folks home. But Trump and his January 6th hooligans belong in jail! For me the right choice is clear in the reality of the two-party system we have. Papa Joe and his peeps who would preserve our democracy over Felonious Chump and his blind, ignorant, law breaking sheep!
The New York Times op-ed page was an unbroken mass of calls for Biden to step down.Since when did right-wing, knuckle dragging, cro magnon, Rupukeians start citing the New York times as a source of credible news? As the man would say, what a pile of hypocritical, stinky "mularkey"! Papa Joe isn't going anywhere! And he's going to whup Felonious Chump's fat, lying ass one more time. Watch, wait, and see.
The problem isn't that Biden isn't the man he was four years ago. People like Elvis don't give a shit about that! They didn't like him four years ago, they don't like him now, and they will never like him. No, the problem is that Felonious Chump is the same asshole he was four years ago. Unqualified, incompetent, amoral, and dictatorial. In other words, nothing has changed about Chump, leaving him unfit for office. Therefore, the only real choice in our two-party system is to go with the other camp. That's what I and millions and millions and millions of other Americans will be doing. Democracy itself is at stake. Felonious Chump and the rest of the Repukeians must be stopped again from ruining America! Four more years of Democratic rule!
Elvis 2008
06-29-24, 14:32
You think only 33% saying Biden won is bad?
Majority of debate watchers say Trump won debate over Biden: CNN Poll.
June 28, 2024
https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/majority-of-debate-watchers-say-trump-won-debate-over-biden-cnn-poll-124062800222_1.html
How about this?
Romneys Strong Debate Performance Erases Obamas Lead.
GOP Challenger Viewed as Candidate with New Ideas.
Oct. 8, 2012
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2012/10/08/romneys-strong-debate-performance-erases-obamas-lead/
And, of course, Obama went on to win re-election over Romney. Was there Dem panic back in Oct. 2012? Yep.I think if they took a poll again, it would be 90% for Trump. People tend to go along with a crowd. I was used to Biden being so out of it so it did not bug me much seeing him. He even made a good point or two, but the media has been showing his gaffes and distorted facial expressions nonstop.
And I do not know what you are talking about with regards to panic and Romney v Obama. Romney and Dole were probably the two worst Republican candidates in 50 years. Any poll putting Romney over Obama had huge flaws, and no one was talking about Obama being replaced or Obama being mentally incompetent.
The thing about the debate and the people who thought Biden won were fools like you. You have been going on with your Thanks, Joe nonsense and not seeing Biden for the bumbling shell of a man that much of the country has now seen with its own eyes. Be.
The most telling question was about mental and physical competence. Trump said he recently won two golf tournaments, and it demonstrates what we all know. Trump still has it mentally and physically. Golf is a challenging mental and physical game.
With Biden, he says he has a 6 handicap in golf. Then a second later, he says he had an 8 handicap when he was vice president after Trump says that was his worst lie of the night. Later on, that night, we see Jill Biden helping Joe down the stairs. That video was not supposed to be shot, and we see her talking to her husband like a kindergartener, "Oh, Joe, you answered all those questions. ".
At this point, anyone who thinks Joe Biden is mentally and physically fit to be president is fucking nuts.
Perhaps typically pro Repub Mainstream Media will take a moment or two someday to recall that.LOL. The Republican media is not reporting anything new. They are doing a round of we told you so. This is a hilarious bit on Gutfield scolding the media for lying about Biden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy0-atnrWZE.
What is funny is with the liberal media we are seeing the same thing as we did with Covid. They are playing the "never mind, we never said that" game with Biden's incompetence. Just like they never advocated for school closings, social distancing, or hawking ineffective vaccines, now the deep state has told the media criticizing Biden's mental incompetence is okay. The NYT, WaPo, MSNBC, and Politico have completely flipped their script yet again. The more honest members of the liberal media like Bill Maher have been screaming about Biden's incompetence for months.
MSNBC's Morning Joe was the target in this video showing the hypocrisy of the liberal media but it could have been any of the liberal press. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URo8ntbyQ6o.
Oh, and Romney wasn't a 34 time felon convicted of conspiracy to commit Election Fraud in order to steal a presidential election, found liable for rape, did not incite a violent mob of cop-killing Insurrectionists to storm the Capitol, stalk top elected officials for their public execution, overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American democracy and so on while he sat on his butt and did nothing except enjoy the show for 3+ hours and did not lie 1-2 times in every sentence he uttered at that debate.Well, even that is a positive now. That Biden was not charged criminally for having top secret documents in his home does not mean Biden is not a criminal. The reason given to not prosecute Biden was he was not mentally competent to stand trial and anyone who saw the debate knows that to be true.
So no one is voting FOR Biden anymore including you. If you cannot see that you are blind. You are voting against Trump and for a deep state cabal. Biden's body may still be functioning somewhat but his mind is gone.
People tend to go along with a crowd. So no one is voting FOR Biden anymore including you. If you cannot see that you are blind.Is that right? So, I guess it's OK if they go along with a crowd that you like. But if it's a crowd of Democrats, then that's just people who don't think for themselves and are acting like sheep pushing for a one-party system right? You're so full of it you reek bro! And again, millions and millions and millions of Americans are going to vote for Biden and other Democrats all over this land. Trump is going to lose, and then the shit is really going to hit the fan for his shifty, lying, odious, fat ass, loser self! Believe this.
Is that right? So, I guess it's OK if they go along with a crowd that you like. But if it's a crowd of Democrats, then that's just people who don't think for themselves and are acting like sheep pushing for a one-party system right? You're so full of it you reek bro! And again, millions and millions and millions of Americans are going to vote for Biden and other Democrats all over this land. Trump is going to lose, and then the shit is really going to hit the fan for his shifty, lying, odious, fat ass, loser self! Believe this.Pundits live in their own world, the one they created to thrive in. People who're capable of thinking for themselves don't think like them. They know shameless liars will ALWAYS have an edge in any debate. So Biden's performance won't change how people will vote, and they sure as hell won't deliver the Red Menace more votes just because Biden stumbled a few times.
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/did-presidential-debate-change-anybodys-mind
Is that right? So, I guess it's OK if they go along with a crowd that you like. But if it's a crowd of Democrats, then that's just people who don't think for themselves and are acting like sheep pushing for a one-party system right? You're so full of it you reek bro! And again, millions and millions and millions of Americans are going to vote for Biden and other Democrats all over this land. Trump is going to lose, and then the shit is really going to hit the fan for his shifty, lying, odious, fat ass, loser self! Believe this.You're one of the dumasses-- DJT shall Win by such a huge margin-- the election shall not be stealable like in 2020-.
America was cheated and we have had a Shit Stained Senile scumbag Fake president for the last 4 years.
Is that right? So, I guess it's OK if they go along with a crowd that you like. But if it's a crowd of Democrats, then that's just people who don't think for themselves and are acting like sheep pushing for a one-party system right? You're so full of it you reek bro! And again, millions and millions and millions of Americans are going to vote for Biden and other Democrats all over this land. Trump is going to lose, and then the shit is really going to hit the fan for his shifty, lying, odious, fat ass, loser self! Believe this.You're one of the dumasses-- DJT shall Win by such a huge margin-- the election shall not be stealable like in 2020-.
America was cheated and we have had a Shit Stained Senile scumbag Fake president for the last 4 years-- Try to pull your head out of your ass.
Good job, Joe! You answered all the questions! And you only blanked out a coupla times! And you didn't stumble when you left the podium! I guess all that practice memorizing lies really paid off! The dumbocrats are fucked. Well they have always been fucked up but now they are fucked. Have a nice day!
Elvis 2008
06-30-24, 00:59
Trump is going to lose, and then the shit is really going to hit the fan for his shifty, lying, odious, fat ass, loser self! Believe this.To quote Jimmy Dore, Trump is a glorified game show host. If you hate someone who is a glorified game show host this much that you actually care about what happens to him when he is not in office, you need to get a life.
I do not hate Biden. Hell, I do not even think he is running the show, but his policies are whacked: clean energy that is not clean and way more expensive, open borders, used to require the ridiculous mandatory Covid testing when entering the USA, adding 80,000 IRS agents, sending hundreds of billions down the drain to Ukraine, not even fucking talking to Putin to end the Ukraine war, completely impotent with Israel and the excessive killing in Gaza, the Afghanistan withdrawal, the billions allocated for energy charging stations and a whopping seven have been built, cancelling debt in exchange for political favor, mouthing off and showing no respect to SCOTUS, mass censorship, weaponizing the DOJ, and worst of all, trying to jail his pollical opposition. Yeah, nothing says saving Democracy like that.
Thing with you douches is you cannot separate Trump from his policies. All you do is call people names.
And again, millions and millions and millions of Americans are going to vote for Biden and other Democrats all over this land.If I were stuck somewhere and Trump pulled up in a car and offered to drive me somewhere, I would hop right in. If Biden did, I would say thank you sir but I am going to wait for an Uber. I am not getting into a car driven by someone with Biden's mental and physical condition and you know what? Neither would you. Oh, you can lie about it but if faced with that reality, you would not do it.
And what does it say about you people voting for Biden that you would put him in control of our nuclear arsenal but you would not let him drive a car? That is how bad your Trump derangement syndrome is. You hate Trump so much you would put someone demented in charge of our nuclear arsenal. You douches brag about how you would vote for someone with advanced dementia ahead of Trump, and that is why you people are fucking nuts.
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