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Axel Heyst
07-22-24, 12:57
Who are going to vote for Kamala?

1. Democrats.

2. Left-leaning independents.

3. Other independents and maybe 1% of Republicans who realize what a disaster the second Trump's coming could become.

Who won't vote for Kamala?

1. 99% of Republicans.

2. Centrists and right-leaning independents who might not like Trump, but who're looking for a charisma in their candidate -- Kamala has none.

I'm afraid the Electoral College system might favor the second group. It would be like Hillary V. 2.

And of course, there are folks who'll stay home due to the lack of enthusiasm for either candidate.

Someone once said that FDR would've never become president if television was widely available at the time because Americans wouldn't have voted for a man in a wheelchair.

Kamala is like a man in a wheelchair. She's practically invisible, and her voice tends to tremble sometimes when she's nervous. Hillary at least didn't have these predicaments.All good points, Xpartan. In the general election Kamala will have the support of the hard core left and everybody who hates Trump. But is that enough to win the election? I don't think so, but we shall see. Meanwhile Trump has the solid backing of 90% of the Republican party, but I do not think that is enough to win the election either. Thus, the honest polls are indicating that this election will be decided by the independents and who they decide to vote for. "Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy night. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84niZwqbYjY&t=1s.

Elvis 2008
07-22-24, 15:35
Only now am I hearing NBC's polling guru Steve Kornacki breaking his silence and ranks with the rest of typically pro Repub Mainstream Media by pointing out that "Gee, after spinning everything "wonderful" for Trump and "terrible" for Biden, the polls have simply not gone sour for Biden. Trump is still only 2 points ahead of Biden at thr national level, 47 to 45, and well within a normal +/-MoE in the battleground states that matter. And, ya' know, it is so early. There was plenty of time for those poll numbers to flip before election. Not that poll numbers matter very much to an election outcome anyway. ".

Of course, this line of messaging only comes now that MSM has terrified Dem donors and voters enough for them to make hysterical calls to their state and local representative, begging them to say something even more terrifying to drag Biden's poll numbers down further. Which wasn't really happening anyway.

Lolol. Typical pro Repub MSM doing what it does best.You mean this is Pro-Republican? Kornaki was on Rachel Mad Cow Maddow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7mypX_1xOk.

Kornaki like Matt Taibbi and Bill Maher is a straight shooter. They tell the truth when Dems fuck up. You hate them because you want the media to be completely biased in your favor. There should be nothing but rainbow farts and unicorns.

And I do not get what you are moaning about. Shit, the "battleground" states he listed are all polling for Trump save for maybe Arizona. Recent polls have shown the true "battleground" states to be Minnesota, NJ, Virginia, and NH, and he lists those in solid blue. CNN already has Trump at 270+ Kornaki is on your team and on MSNBC, but you are so screwed in the head, you think he plays red.

And this whole 47 to 45 or 47 to 46 crap completely skews things because of California which is not in play. Hell, illegals will vote in California and Trump will lose by 5 million+ votes there. That is a given and it skews the real picture. Trump was NEVER ahead of the Dems in 2020. You and the lame steam Dem media make it sound like it is a 1% thing when it is a 30 to 50% swing in the casinos. If it were just one in a hundred Americans having to change their minds, Biden would still be in the race. The polls show a landslide for Republicans now and that is why Biden had to go.

MarquisdeSade1
07-22-24, 15:41
Because, despite Biden's stuttering issue and the two brain aneurysms in the late 1980's that now in old age manifests itself with motor skill problems in his speech and on his body and gait, nothing is wrong with his Cognitive Acuity, his ability to fully comprehend what he is hearing, reading and to make presidential decisions accordingly.

There was never any "cover up" in that regard.

And even if totally flat-lined, his being a Dem means he will continue to be a better president with better results than any Repub ever, especially Trump.

I do think he should resign and make Harris president so she can run as a true incumbrnt.

However, a big, big problem with doing that is I believe she will then need at least some Repub votes in Congress to get her VP choice approved. And that means they will obstruct and delay on and on, leaving it to, yep, you guessed it, ChristoFacist Mike to be #1 next in line for the Oval Office. Lolol. Yes, Biden is smart and Cognitively Competent enough to know that about the Repub Party, too.

That issue is avoided if she merely names her VP choice and gets the required 2/3 delegate votes at the convention. Preferably on the first ballot.https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/biden-endorses-kamala-to-ride-the-bomb-down-instead-of-him/

I see you sure do make a lot of spelling errors, and you're one of those lame ass posters that try to bash other people when they make a spelling error on a hooker forum.

What's wrong? Did you go to those shitty public schools in California?

MarquisdeSade1
07-22-24, 15:54
Already coming up with the "rigged" excuse for when you lose! I'll tell you what. When you do lose? Show your sorry asses up at the Capitol again and see what happens. Defenders of American democracy will be waiting to repel your treachery and treason!And all the smart money will be on the red team with all the guns.

https://www.thetrace.org/2023/03/guns-america-data-atf-total/

https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/19/24201879/mark-zuckerberg-trump-rally-shooting-fist-pump-badass

MarquisdeSade1
07-22-24, 16:00
Yeah sure, Kamala baby IS the chosen heir and most likely candidate, but we shall see how that works out for the Dems. After all she was the DEI VP candidate in 2020. She has lower approval numbers than Biden, she has never won a primary or caucus, and she is lousy on the stump. I am looking forward to watching her defend the Biden / Harris record of failure and mediocrity. Specifically, I am looking forward to her explaining why she has been AWOL on her one VP assignment as the border queen. So, I am also really looking forward to her debates with President Trump.

Her campaign for president is going to be very dirty focusing on 2 issues, a woman's "right" to abortion up to and including the moment immediately preceding birth, and Trump is Hitler, all the while trying to downplay and run away from the top issues that concern most Americans, including woman, namely the economy stupid (inflation: less purchasing power (groceries, gasoline, car insurance, home prices, rental prices) for working people and the decline of real wages), the open border, runaway crime in Democrat controlled cities, 2 wars, DEI, and woke indoctrination in our universities and schools.

Meanwhile there are at least 5,000 Hamas sympathizers and nihilists planning to descend on Chicago and cause a lot of trouble. It may come to nothing, but it might very well turn into a disaster for the Dems like it was in '68. Remember poor Hubert Humphrey. He did not have a chance after the Chicago '68 convention. This is the next political show I am most looking forward to watching. I hope I am not disappointed.I can see the the roof of the United Center from the living room of my 60th FL penthouse a few miles west (Wrigley Field a couple miles north).

Any chaos will be somewhat visible, I will have to make sure to be in Chicago and buy some good binoculars.

MarquisdeSade1
07-22-24, 16:32
Yeah sure, Kamala baby IS the chosen heir and most likely candidate, but we shall see how that works out for the Dems. After all she was the DEI VP candidate in 2020. She has lower approval numbers than Biden, she has never won a primary or caucus, and she is lousy on the stump. I am looking forward to watching her defend the Biden / Harris record of failure and mediocrity. Specifically, I am looking forward to her explaining why she has been AWOL on her one VP assignment as the border queen. So, I am also really looking forward to her debates with President Trump.

Her campaign for president is going to be very dirty focusing on 2 issues, a woman's "right" to abortion up to and including the moment immediately preceding birth, and Trump is Hitler, all the while trying to downplay and run away from the top issues that concern most Americans, including woman, namely the economy stupid (inflation: less purchasing power (groceries, gasoline, car insurance, home prices, rental prices) for working people and the decline of real wages), the open border, runaway crime in Democrat controlled cities, 2 wars, DEI, and woke indoctrination in our universities and schools.

Meanwhile there are at least 5,000 Hamas sympathizers and nihilists planning to descend on Chicago and cause a lot of trouble. It may come to nothing, but it might very well turn into a disaster for the Dems like it was in '68. Remember poor Hubert Humphrey. He did not have a chance after the Chicago '68 convention. This is the next political show I am most looking forward to watching. I hope I am not disappointed.https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2024/07/20/police-attacker-yells-fck-your-baby-and-shoots-infant-in-front-of-parents-in-democrat-run-philadelphia/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2rYhluHxObBw-nZf0tbJ51iSsjcts57lYxYdVIERFoKom1IUV6D8a-Rh0_aem_TYz0XKFZJQgSbU37ks4fqw

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2923408/phillys-soros-funded-district-attorney-deceived-court-to-get-murderer-off-death-row/

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Woodman09
07-22-24, 16:36
We have not seen Dementis Biden for a while now? Weird that letter -- why not a quick appearance?

Or maybe he is alive but does not know he quit? Would be easy to get him to sign anything -- Where are You Dementia Joe?

Just saying.

Spidy
07-22-24, 18:31
Orange is the New Black

Trump more ganster than Harris and Obama combined. Harris also 50% Indian ...

YES! You're Correct! on both accounts. He certainly is orange. And he certainly is a gangster! Don't forgot criminal and felon!


Yes, by all means, let us not forget about the thousands of women Kamala jailed for smoking pot while admitting to smoking it herself. In fact, she was so inspiring to women, she got less than 1% of the Democratic vote in primaries and not one delegate. I do not think she is a shoo in to win the nomination. While the Clintons endorse her, the Obamas do not. All she does well is suck dick and kiss ass. I never thought of Obama as a DEI candidate, but that is all Kamala has going for her.

Funny you mention DEI (as you parrot, the latest right-wing FOXY Muse, talking point), as it seems, with a traitor, treasonist , insurrectionist, criminal, felon and pussy-grabber sex offender, as your presumptive nominee, Trump is more DEI than you think. (...kkkk!)

Spidy
07-22-24, 19:21
Yeah, he quit instead. How noble! And why did he quit again if he was going to give Trump such a beat down?

Shit, the only strategy you [Deleted by Admin] had was this lawfare campaign to distract from the fact that Biden was so old. And now this assassination attempt, while not a conspiracy to shoot Trump, was at this point purposeful negligence. Biden was such a shit candidate that his administration was perfectly happy to see assassins fire away at Trump or RFK Jr. That is how fucked in the head they were.

As for women, soy boy, you do not seem to get that women prefer male leaders over female ones. Yes, studies show that to be true, and here is an example of that in real life https://twitter.com/Rich_Cooper/status/1815057012222259458

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Nothing says Elvis 2008, "potty mouth", quite like "ISG Administration Blue"! (...kkkk!)


Yeah, nothing says beatdown more than quitting. Biden is a putz. I hope we learn how much he got paid off to step down. Hell, Elon Musk tweeted he was told to the minute when Biden was going to step down. Biden was a fucking parasite. That he is all he ever was and all he ever would be.

Put simply, President Joe Biden, put the country above his own personal self-aggrandizing, self-absorbed and selfish ego. Unlike Trump who cares nothing for the country and is willing to tear it apart and watch it burn, for his own selfish gratification and personal gains.

I think, President Joe Biden, was the Trump beatdown, I was looking forward to. However, if Veep K.H. is the next batter up, it should still prove very interesting.

"Men or Women: Whos the Better Leader? Americans believe women have the right stuff to be political leaders. When it comes to honesty, intelligence and a handful of other character traits they value highly in leaders, the public rates women superior to men, according to a new nationwide Pew Research Center Social and Demographic Trends survey. " https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2008/08/25/men-or-women-whos-the-better-leader/

As the resident conspiracist, INCEL and misogynist you would think that about women. Many studies, think women make better leaders than men. But contrary to your arcane, JD Vance "Hillbilly Elegy" worldviews on women and women rights, your wrong again. And hopefully women may yet prove you wrong at the polls.

Elvis 2008
07-22-24, 23:27
Nothing says Elvis 2008, "potty mouth" quite like "ISG Administration Blue"!(...kkkk!)LOL. I have been using the term Democratic douche for over a year and not been censored. Now some new clown comes on here and blanks it out. If you do not know the administrators on this site run blue, you have been smoking what Tooms does. Or maybe the administrator was traumatized by Biden's withdrawal and needed a whipping post. If that is the case, I am glad he feels better after employing a favorite leftoid tactic, censorship.


Put simply, President Joe Biden, put the country above his own personal self-aggrandizing, self-absorbed and selfish ego. Unlike Trump who cares nothing for the country and is willing to tear it apart and watch it burn, for his own selfish gratification and personal gains.Yes, and nothing says no self-interest better than being president while demented, charging into your political opponent's house with a SWAT team, arresting and trying your political opponent, and being negligent when your opponent has an assassination attempt. Shit, this was right out of the Putin / Hitler playbook.


I think, President Joe Biden, was the Trump beatdownOh yeah, and his odds were at 10%. Weren't you predicting Biden would win when he could not even stand up? I would like to see him make a public statement but he has been tied up in his Corvette by his aides.


I was looking forward to. However, if Veep K.H. is the next batter up, it should still prove very interesting.And you still do not get why she is the nominee. If the Democratic nominee is anyone other than Harris, all the donor money raised in Biden's name would have to be sent back to the donors.


Men or Women: Whos the Better Leader? Americans believe women have the right stuff to be political leaders. When it comes to honesty, intelligence and a handful of other character traits they value highly in leaders, the public rates women superior to men, according to a new nationwide Pew Research Center Social and Demographic Trends survey. "

As the resident conspiracist, INCEL and misogynist you would think that about women. Many studies, think women make better leaders than men. But contrary to your arcane, JD Vance "Hillbilly Elegy" worldviews on women and women rights, your wrong again. And hopefully women may yet prove you wrong at the polls.LOL. I don't think you even read your DEI fluff pieces. This is in the second paragraph, "Nevertheless, a mere 6% of respondents in this survey of 2,250 adults say that, overall, women make better political leaders than men. About one-in-five (21%) say men make the better leaders, while the vast majority 69% say men and women make equally good leaders. ".

Only a DEI poll would put in the copout phrase both sexes are equal and even with that men beat women by 3:1.

It is funny how you Democratic douches say that white supremacy is the #1 problem in America and a black woman is chosen to run. It is amazing someone this capable could not win an elected nomination. / sarc.

The truth is no one is going to admit they are not going to vote for Kamala because she is black or a woman, but you would be foolish to think those people do not exist. That is why the pundits and Democratic party leaders including a powerful black Democrat endorsed Biden in 2020. The Dems needed a white male to challenge Trump.

And even with Obama, people seemed to forget he is half-white and raised by a white family. Oops is that not PC to say even though it is the truth? I cannot make up my mind anymore what is okay and what is not. If America is so racist and sexist, Kamala does not have a chance. If it is not, then why do you Democrats keep bringing it up?

By your own idiotic DEI poll, Kamala is going to lose because Americans prefer male leaders.

And today of all days was the worst day to bring up female leadership. The female director of the SS was getting grilled by all races and sexes of Congressmen. As a former SS agent said, DEI with the SS means DIE.

In fact, it is the most sexist thing in the world to say women prefer female leaders when they don't or say women are pro-abortion when a lot are not, but that is part of being a Soy Boy isn't it? Saying you respect women so much when you do not even fucking listen to them.

EihTooms
07-23-24, 01:03
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/biden-endorses-kamala-to-ride-the-bomb-down-instead-of-him/

I see you sure do make a lot of spelling errors, and you're one of those lame ass posters that try to bash other people when they make a spelling error on a hooker forum.

What's wrong? Did you go to those shitty public schools in California?My specialty is not about correcting spelling errors. I don't even remember the last time I did that here.

My specialty is pointing out factual errors. Such as "Trump had the greatest economy in history before the China virus happened out-of-blue, which nobody could have predicted. ".

I count at least 3 factual errors, lies, real whoppers, in just that one favorite Trump / Repub assertion.

BTW, how do you spell "inominus" (anonymous), "oranges" (origins) or "covfefe" (who the fuck knows) anyway?

EihTooms
07-23-24, 01:22
You mean this is Pro-Republican? Kornaki was on Rachel Mad Cow Maddow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7mypX_1xOk.

Kornaki like Matt Taibbi and Bill Maher is a straight shooter. They tell the truth when Dems fuck up. You hate them because you want the media to be completely biased in your favor. There should be nothing but rainbow farts and unicorns.

And I do not get what you are moaning about. Shit, the "battleground" states he listed are all polling for Trump save for maybe Arizona. Recent polls have shown the true "battleground" states to be Minnesota, NJ, Virginia, and NH, and he lists those in solid blue. CNN already has Trump at 270+ Kornaki is on your team and on MSNBC, but you are so screwed in the head, you think he plays red.

And this whole 47 to 45 or 47 to 46 crap completely skews things because of California which is not in play. Hell, illegals will vote in California and Trump will lose by 5 million+ votes there. That is a given and it skews the real picture. Trump was NEVER ahead of the Dems in 2020. You and the lame steam Dem media make it sound like it is a 1% thing when it is a 30 to 50% swing in the casinos. If it were just one in a hundred Americans having to change their minds, Biden would still be in the race. The polls show a landslide for Republicans now and that is why Biden had to go.LOL. Yes, that link will do.

After spending months insisting that Biden's poll numbers show his campaign is "doomed" and that even a generic Dem, anyone else, would do better against Trump in the polls, pro Repub Mainstream Media now has their poll gurus admitting that the very next likely Dem candidate, Harris, is in fact not faring any better vs Trump in the polls than Biden did. And, oh BTW, it isn't as though the difference is all that critical anyway.

But only after their pro Repub spin and hysteria finally terrified Dem voters and donors into insisting the Dems remove the truly critical incumbent advantage from their side.

Now it is time for them to work very hard to remove another critical advantage, an uncontested nomination, from the Dem side so they can achieve a repeat of the 1980 Carter to Reagan and the 2016 Clinton to Trump outcome.

As usual, your link proved my point.

MarquisdeSade1
07-23-24, 01:26
I can see the the roof of the United Center from the living room of my 60th FL penthouse a few miles west (Wrigley Field a couple miles north).

Any chaos will be somewhat visible, I will have to make sure to be in Chicago and buy some good binoculars.I need to get a GoPro and record the fun in person.

Any way to upload videos here or a link to a cloud site for all of your viewing pleasure?

EihTooms
07-23-24, 01:51
We have not seen Dementis Biden for a while now? Weird that letter -- why not a quick appearance?

Or maybe he is alive but does not know he quit? Would be easy to get him to sign anything -- Where are You Dementia Joe?

Just saying.This was just a few hours ago:

https://youtu.be/W0etSyKFS0M?si=2kRk4b31T8isp1Op

As usual, he sounds more lucid, better informed, more detail-oriented, certainly more truthful and fact-based than any Repub, most especially more that Donald Trump.

You know Biden has been in quarantine with Trump's Pandemic Covid, right?

Xpartan
07-23-24, 05:11
We have not seen Dementis Biden for a while now? Weird that letter -- why not a quick appearance?

Or maybe he is alive but does not know he quit? Would be easy to get him to sign anything -- Where are You Dementia Joe?

Just saying.Pure unabated hatred. So typical for Trump cult members.

Biden Is Getting Older. Trump Is Losing His Mind.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/biden-getting-older-trump-losing-mind

Our Diagnostic Impression of Trump is Probable Dementia: For Licensed Professionals Only (signed by 2,665 mental health professionals).

https://www.change.org/p/our-diagnostic-impression-of-trump-is-probable-dementia-for-licensed-professionals-only

Axel Heyst
07-23-24, 12:40
I can see the the roof of the United Center from the living room of my 60th FL penthouse a few miles west (Wrigley Field a couple miles north).

Any chaos will be somewhat visible, I will have to make sure to be in Chicago and buy some good binoculars.I was born and raised in Chicago. It was always a tough town, but a lot has changed ie gotten a lot worse since I left Chi Town for warmer weather in '95. Keep your eyes open at all times if you decide to venture out where the action is taking place. Grant Park, me thinks, if history repeats itself.

P.S. I did not see any demonstrators on the nightly news broadcasts of the Milwaukee convention. What happened? Did the cops keep the crazies away from the convention center? Or did they just not show up?

The Cane
07-23-24, 12:44
And all the smart money will be on the red team with all the guns.

https://www.thetrace.org/2023/03/guns-america-data-atf-total/

https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/19/24201879/mark-zuckerberg-trump-rally-shooting-fist-pump-badassThe "red team" up against law enforcement waiting with 30,000 long guns! My money is on the preservation of American democracy. The madness of "Trumpism" this too shall pass. Like the stinky turd that it is!

MarquisdeSade1
07-23-24, 14:05
I need to get a GoPro and record the fun in person.

Any way to upload videos here or a link to a cloud site for all of your viewing pleasure?The YUGE amount of protesters outside of it regularly are hilarious, they should easily find their way to the United Center several blocks west.

In late August LMAO, could make for some interesting utube material LOLOLOLOL.

Stay Tuned Allahu Akbar.

Woodman09
07-23-24, 15:00
This was just a few hours ago:

https://youtu.be/W0etSyKFS0M?si=2kRk4b31T8isp1Op

As usual, he sounds more lucid, better informed, more detail-oriented, certainly more truthful and fact-based than any Repub, most especially more that Donald Trump.

You know Biden has been in quarantine with Trump's Pandemic Covid, right?LOL-- Trump's Covid-- - LOL-Funny how that Great Sounding Dementia Biden could not be put on a screen-- But of course the whitehouse has no budget for that-Just saying LOL-- Don't forget to Wear Your Mask-- Get That New Booster too!

Elvis 2008
07-23-24, 16:11
LOL. Yes, that link will do.

After spending months insisting that Biden's poll numbers show his campaign is "doomed" and that even a generic Dem, anyone else, would do better against Trump in the polls, pro Repub Mainstream Media now has their poll gurus admitting that the very next likely Dem candidate, Harris, is in fact not faring any better vs Trump in the polls than Biden did. And, oh BTW, it isn't as though the difference is all that critical anyway.

As usual, your link proved my point.Loony Tooms, and you think the Dems do not do their own polling? LOL. The Dems own polling data was leaked to Pluck.com two weeks ago, and THAT polling dats was terrifying to Dems.

The Dem v Republican numbers often miss the point. You have to add in the 3rd party candidates. In the Dems only polling data, Trump wins 338 electoral votes. In the Dems polling data, all the supposed swing states went to Trump, and they showed that the real swing states are the four that I mentioned and that New Mexico and even Colorado are in play.

And in this poll for the first time Biden was actually polling behind Kamala, and the Dems own polling shows what a debacle the debate showing really was. It was this data, the Dems own polling data, that drove Biden out of the race.

That data is all here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ2BgRwNUHk.

So as usual, your crying that the lamestream media is against you is bunk. They are not reporting how bad things are for you Dems in your own polling. The Dems only polling shows a landslide for Trump, and the leftist media is not saying that. They are on your side.

And while everyone is holding hands playing nice at the moment with Kamala, the delegates are not bound to her. The Dems will be conducting their own polling and right now, there is no one beating Trump. I have listened to serious pundits say the reason the Obamas have not endorsed Kamala is they have a celebrity candidate in mind and the name thrown out there, and this is a hoot, is none other than the actor the Rock.

And I keep telling you the casino odds are a better measure of telling the odds than any polls. Kamala has about an 80% chance of winning the Democratic nomination and about a 27% chance of winning the election in the latest casino odds, and all you dumb Dems in your predicting Biden would win are all wet right now.

And I keep coming back to the money thing. Kamala getting access to the money Biden raised is no slam dunk. Republicans will sue to keep that money from being released, and there is sound legal logic in putting a hold on that money. If that case is filed in Judge Reed O'Connor's district in Texas, that hold is damned near guaranteed. That the Dems will eventually have access to that money is very likely but it probably will be too late for this election.

So Kamala raising all this money is not because of enthusiasm. It is because the big money Dems are giving out of desperation. Kamala had no money to work with and whatever enthusiasm she brings, it is in comparison to Biden. At least the Dems have a candidate now who can walk and talk. That nobody voted for her now is almost beside the point, but just wait a few months.

Elvis 2008
07-23-24, 16:32
The "red team" up against law enforcement waiting with 30,000 long guns! My money is on the preservation of American democracy. The madness of "Trumpism" this too shall pass. Like the stinky turd that it is!You mean the "Democracy" where the person getting the most votes is kicked out?

As AH pointed out, there were no protestors in Milwaukee. Hell, that convention was as Kum ba ya as it comes.

I am glad you are counting on LE after the debacle in Trump's attempted assassination. I have no doubt the LE negligence with the Trump assassination was planned. It is conspiracy to say Biden arranged for people to shoot at RFK JR and Trump. It is not to conspiracy at all to say he wanted it.

Biden is still head of all LE. You think this vindictive MF is going to let there be a peaceful convention after being stabbed in the back and pushed out the door? Ha! The only person in charge fucking hates the people at the convention. As it stands now, there will be a huge leadership void. And the Chicago police are famous for turning a blind eye at crime.

The largest Muslim contingent in the USA is in Dearborn, MI, a short drive from Chicago. I suspect busses and busses of people being shipped in from there.

Yeah, I am sure Biden is going to bring in those five foot nothing women who cannot holster their guns to protect the delegates.

Would anyone even care if the pro-Palestinian mobs took over the Democratic convention? Isn't all the Democrats and their voting just for show now anyway?

MarquisdeSade1
07-23-24, 17:09
The "red team" up against law enforcement waiting with 30,000 long guns! My money is on the preservation of American democracy. The madness of "Trumpism" this too shall pass. Like the stinky turd that it is!https://www.thetrace.org/2023/03/guns-america-data-atf-total/

400 million guns in 2500 red countries!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_ownership

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-trump-biden-counties-won-2020-election-770301657627

Woodman09
07-23-24, 17:17
So funny how a lot of BrainWashed Dickheads believe every G-the thing the Scumbag media feeds you all. Are You going to Cry because America's Greatest President has died? LOL. So Funny seeng Van Jones and other media scumbags cryiing over Disgusting Treasonous Scumbag Dementia Joe. I for one am glad we won't be seeing Scumbag anymore. Go to Hell Joe.

Elvis 2008
07-23-24, 18:07
Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle Resigns.

I guess it finally got through to her that the job was protecting the lives of people versus hiring women as government workers.

Anyway, the other good news is we Republicans have a new star pol, Nancy Mase.

Her first question: Both sides of the aisle today have asked for your resignation. Would you like to use my five minutes today to draft your resignation letter? Yes, or No?

You can watch the whole thing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv5mzY9DWXY.

It is a rare demonstration of a pol being smart, correct, passionate and throwing inappropriate PC nonsense in the trash.

Spidy
07-23-24, 19:20
Who are going to vote for Kamala?

1. Democrats.

2. Left-leaning independents.

3. Other independents and maybe 1% of Republicans who realize what a disaster the second Trump's coming could become.

Who won't vote for Kamala?

1. 99% of Republicans.

2. Centrists and right-leaning independents who might not like Trump, but who're looking for a charisma in their candidate -- Kamala has none.

I'm afraid the Electoral College system might favor the second group. It would be like Hillary V. 2.

And of course, there are folks who'll stay home due to the lack of enthusiasm for either candidate.

Someone once said that FDR would've never become president if television was widely available at the time because Americans wouldn't have voted for a man in a wheelchair.

Kamala is like a man in a wheelchair. She's practically invisible, and her voice tends to tremble sometimes when she's nervous. Hillary at least didn't have these predicaments.

So let me be clear! I think, had the Dems "stayed the course" with Joe Biden, he'd was gonna give Trump the beatdown I was so looking forward seeing.

I'm still not sold on Veep K.H., and still agnostic w/r to her as a "solid" candidate, which you've articled nicely as to why that is. And for the most part, I agree with your astute analysis. But simply put (to use a turn of phase), she is the designated pinch-hitter or just simply the next batter up?

Okay...so who did you have in mind as "pinch-hitter" or "relief pitcher" for the Dems?

From the list of other candidates, I think they, were all were looking to run for president, more so in 2028, with a "longer campaign runway" with which to operate. And many of the others, seemed quite relieved, the task of running in 2024, is (so far) being left up to Veep K.H.

PS: Forgive the baseball analogies, that I so do loath using, but it seemed apropos!

The Cane
07-23-24, 22:39
You were saying? The Democrats will arrive to and depart from Chicago strong and united and ready to stomp some MAGA maggots!

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/politics/2024/07/23/kamala-harris-gets-enough-delegate-support-to-secure-nomination/74517356007/

Xpartan
07-23-24, 23:25
Okay...so who did you have in mind as "pinch-hitter" or "relief pitcher" for the Dems?I think either Newsom or Shapiro would be a better choice. But since this isn't happening, I hope she'll use the next 3 months wisely to change people's perception of her, LOL.

The Cane
07-24-24, 02:40
You mean the "Democracy" where the person getting the most votes is kicked out?

As AH pointed out, there were no protestors in Milwaukee. Hell, that convention was as Kum ba ya as it comes.

I am glad you are counting on LE after the debacle in Trump's attempted assassination. I have no doubt the LE negligence with the Trump assassination was planned. It is conspiracy to say Biden arranged for people to shoot at RFK JR and Trump. It is not to conspiracy at all to say he wanted it.

Biden is still head of all LE. You think this vindictive MF is going to let there be a peaceful convention after being stabbed in the back and pushed out the door? Ha! The only person in charge fucking hates the people at the convention. As it stands now, there will be a huge leadership void. And the Chicago police are famous for turning a blind eye at crime.

The largest Muslim contingent in the USA is in Dearborn, MI, a short drive from Chicago. I suspect busses and busses of people being shipped in from there.

Yeah, I am sure Biden is going to bring in those five foot nothing women who cannot holster their guns to protect the delegates.

Would anyone even care if the pro-Palestinian mobs took over the Democratic convention? Isn't all the Democrats and their voting just for show now anyway?Well-spoken by the "law and order party". I guess only if you win though huh? If not then you storm the Capitol prepared to lynch the Vice President because he chose the law (the Constitution) over your tyrant. MAGA will end up on the trash heap of history just like the Tea Party! Only thing is that with the right's desperation you just keep getting more and more extreme as you see your power to influence and control slipping away over time. Tea Party. MAGA. What's next doucebag? The Neo-American Nazi Party? We'll be ready and waiting!

EihTooms
07-24-24, 04:28
Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle Resigns.

I guess it finally got through to her that the job was protecting the lives of people versus hiring women as government workers.

Anyway, the other good news is we Republicans have a new star pol, Nancy Mase.

Her first question: Both sides of the aisle today have asked for your resignation. Would you like to use my five minutes today to draft your resignation letter? Yes, or No?

You can watch the whole thing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv5mzY9DWXY.

It is a rare demonstration of a pol being smart, correct, passionate and throwing inappropriate PC nonsense in the trash.McKinley.

JFK.

RFK.

Ford (twice).

Reagan.

4 times the shooter made a direct hit. 3 times the target victim died.

All had male Directors of the Secret Service. No mention of DEI. No mention of PC. No demands on both sides for anyone to resign.

I wonder if any one of them except Ford would have happily traded their Secret Service protection results over a grazed ear, possibly by glass shards going along for the ride rather than the bullet itself.

RamDavidson84
07-24-24, 08:52
Well-spoken by the "law and order party". I guess only if you win though huh? If not then you storm the Capitol prepared to lynch the Vice President because he chose the law (the Constitution) over your tyrant. MAGA will end up on the trash heap of history just like the Tea Party! Only thing is that with the right's desperation you just keep getting more and more extreme as you see your power to influence and control slipping away over time. Tea Party. MAGA. What's next doucebag? The Neo-American Nazi Party? We'll be ready and waiting!MAGA is not Nazi! When was their an attempt to lynch pence? What was the guy's name who tried to lynch him? This is news to be me.

Democrats talk too much about building bridges over rivers which don't exist. If no criminals, why have police and prisons? Better make criminals some how- said the Warden. If true racism which actually effects social mobility has truly perished, You can be sure Democrats will figure out some way to make more racists to keep their pockets full of cash and pawns in office. Democrats profit off division and hate much more than Republican. Just imagine if ALL people decided to truly unite in USA and push a true America first agenda. You will never see a lower class get richer and happier quicker in history. China and Russia would shit their pants, maybe even peace in the middle east. Money Talks.

Walmart, Amazon, Target, Mcdonalds will never let it happen- they thrive off the poor and desperate.

EihTooms
07-24-24, 12:40
So let me be clear! I think, had the Dems "stayed the course" with Joe Biden, he'd was gonna give Trump the beatdown I was so looking forward seeing.

I'm still not sold on Veep K.H., and still agnostic w/r to her as a "solid" candidate, which you've articled nicely as to why that is. And for the most part, I agree with your astute analysis. But simply put (to use a turn of phase), she is the designated pinch-hitter or just simply the next batter up?

Okay...so who did you have in mind as "pinch-hitter" or "relief pitcher" for the Dems?

From the list of other candidates, I think they, were all were looking to run for president, more so in 2028, with a "longer campaign runway" with which to operate. And many of the others, seemed quite relieved, the task of running in 2024, is (so far) being left up to Veep K.H.

PS: Forgive the baseball analogies, that I so do loath using, but it seemed apropos!If typically pro Repub Mainstream Media had not suddenly decided that first Presidential Debate Quiz Show should NOT have been a calm, reasoned, orderly exchange of ideas, agendas and plans for a second term as it had clearly been formatted to be and on which basis Biden easily won on every question instead of a loud, interruptive, zinger-filled clown show and then overreacted beyond all reason and overwhelming evidence that Biden was "incapacitated", spending every hour doing everything possible to terrify Dem voters and donors into running for their lives, Biden would today be in roughly the exact same position Harris finds herself.

Except in a better position to win in November due to him being the true Incumbent, a major factor in winning re-election.

Perhaps the money flow came in sooner under Harris because her being endorsed by Biden was an inflection point.

Otherwise, Trump's "Convention Bounce" would be over just the same as it appears to be over now. Biden would have his "Convention Bounce" coming all the same, the money would still be flowing in, plenty of it.

Trump's high point vs Biden at the end of his Convention would be staring at a world of upcoming hurt with the Dem Convention, his sentencing and the next Presidential Debate Quiz Show wherein Biden would be fully prepared to engage in whatever loud, interruptive, zinger-filled clown show the typically pro Repub Mainstream Media desires.

Meanwhile, the 538 Poll site Consensus Projection would likely already have Biden back to several points ahead of Trump in the Chances of Winning and sitting comfortably at 278+ Electoral Votes along with Allan Lichtman's so far 100% accurate Keys to the White House, going all the way back to 1860, favoring Biden even more.

Most of that might still happen with Harris. But, thanks to pro Repub MSM, the Dem is going into the final stretch without one of the most important Keys; Incumbancy.

SubCmdr
07-24-24, 14:42
Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle Resigns.I watched the hearing. After a lifetime of civilian service to have to be disrespectful individuals that are more similar to the the Medellin Morans than elected public officials, I would take my pension and find better days. She is going to get a job in private industry making 2 x - 3 x times her government salary. Good for here.


I guess it finally got through to her that the job was protecting the lives of people versus hiring women as government workers.Wrong. See statement above.


Anyway, the other good news is we Republicans have a new star pol, Nancy Mase.No surprise you are riding her tip.

The Cane
07-24-24, 16:12
MAGA is not Nazi! When was their an attempt to lynch pence? What was the guy's name who tried to lynch him? This is news to be me.MAGA is not Nazi. But MAGA is stupid and can't comprehend plain English. I asked what is coming next? As for calling for the lynching of Pence does January 6th ring a bell? Oh, that's right! That never happened. That was just a bunch of curious tourists looking around the Capitol.

EihTooms
07-24-24, 18:16
McKinley.

JFK.

RFK.

Ford (twice).

Reagan.

4 times the shooter made a direct hit. 3 times the target victim died.

All had male Directors of the Secret Service. No mention of DEI. No mention of PC. No demands on both sides for anyone to resign.

I wonder if any one of them except Ford would have happily traded their Secret Service protection results over a grazed ear, possibly by glass shards going along for the ride rather than the bullet itself.I was reminded earlier today of the FDR shooting. In early 1933, President-elect FDR was shot at in an open limo. Five shots. As in the JFK, Reagan and Trump shooting, other people in close proximity to him but without Secret Service protection assigned to them were hit. 4 bystanders were wounded and the Mayor of Chicago was killed.

Again, the Director of the Secret Service at the time was male, so there was no mention of anything like DEI or PC and both sides did not demand anyone resign.

Mind you, thanks solely to the Republican Party's slavish devotion to their NRA benefactors' wish to arm every lunatic in America with the most sophisticated and effective weaponry to kill as many human beings as possible with the least amount of effort, it is no doubt more difficult to prevent anyone from being shot today than ever before.

I don't recall anyone demanding that GW Bush resign for allowing the assault-rifle ban to lapse or that every member of Congress who voted No on Biden's recent gun safety bill to resign.

Xpartan
07-24-24, 18:27
When was their an attempt to lynch pence? What was the guy's name who tried to lynch him? This is news to be me.Chanting "hang Mike Pence" doesn't qualify?

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/25/trump-expressed-support-hanging-pence-capitol-riot-jan-6-00035117

Elvis 2008
07-24-24, 18:56
Well-spoken by the "law and order party". I guess only if you win though huh? If not then you storm the Capitol prepared to lynch the Vice President because he chose the law (the Constitution) over your tyrant.You mean where Trump said to March peacefully, and the only person shot and killed was a Republican protestor? You mean the March where you Democratic douches were so anxious to say it caused deaths you counted security guards who committed suicide days and weeks later? You mean the March where the FBI director would not tell us how many FBI informants were in the crowds? You mean the March where gun owning MAGA citizens left their guns behind?

I think I can speak for most Republicans in saying the only reason to show up at the Democratic convention would be to laugh. The people protesting are in your party.

And you douches created your own issues within your party with your prowar nonsense and at least in the case of the Palestinians it has come back to bite you in the butt. Netanyahu has walked all over Dementia Joe and is using USA bombs to blow up people waving white flags screaming surrender. Everything Biden has done with the Israeli conflict has been a joke including building a dock that was swept away by the sea.


WMAGA will end up on the trash heap of history just like the Tea Party! Only thing is that with the right's desperation you just keep getting more and more extreme as you see your power to influence and control slipping away over time. Tea Party. MAGA. What's next doucebag?Well, here is what is not next, your last prediction that Biden would win. Hell, you do not even know what is going to happen next. Odds of Harris winning is at 80%, but that is only if people do not who she is. Right now, she is not Trump and not demented like Biden. Those are her supposed positives.

Tulsi Gabbard shredded Kamala Harris in the 2020 election debates. Now you have RFK JR. Just destroy her in 2 minutes here: https://twitter.com/EndTribalism/status/1815144842072048077

Odds are she is going to win the nomination but once people get over the fact that she can walk and talk unlike Biden and they actually see the real her, she is going to be cannon fodder.

AS for MAGA, douches like you think it is Trump when the reality is MAGA is a populist movement against bureaucracy and the deep state with which Trump is the face of. It is not going away with Trump. JD Vance will be leading it after him. In 2016, Ben Carson told Trump that either he or Trump would win the election because the party wanted an outsider, and the Democratic voters wanted the same. The Deep State just rigged things so Hiliary and not Bernie won.

After J6, Covid, the assassination attempt, an administration not being run by an elected candidate, and now a Democratic nominee who has not one one delegate's vote previously, the MAGA movement is stronger than ever. Who the fuck is running the Biden administration if not the deep state? If you think it is Joe Biden, you are as demented as he is.

So I cannot believe how dumb your comment is. You think a movement where the deep state picks who is president and runs the executive branch is going to outlast one where the citizens decide? That is the definition of a Democratic douche.


The Neo-American Nazi Party? We'll be ready and waiting!You are the fucking Nazis who do not believe in citizens not having the right to vote. The last honest Democratic primaries were in 2008 when Obama unexpectedly won.

Elvis 2008
07-24-24, 20:30
So let me be clear! I think, had the Dems "stayed the course" with Joe Biden, he'd was gonna give Trump the beatdown I was so looking forward seeing.

I'm still not sold on Veep K.H., and still agnostic w/r to her as a "solid" candidate, which you've articled nicely as to why that is. And for the most part, I agree with your astute analysis. But simply put (to use a turn of phase), she is the designated pinch-hitter or just simply the next batter up?

Okay...so who did you have in mind as "pinch-hitter" or "relief pitcher" for the Dems?

From the list of other candidates, I think they, were all were looking to run for president, more so in 2028, with a "longer campaign runway" with which to operate. And many of the others, seemed quite relieved, the task of running in 2024, is (so far) being left up to Veep K.H.

Forgive the baseball analogies, that I so do loath using, but it seemed apropos!LOL. Spidy, the reason I call you all Democratic douches is because you all just inhale the government narrative. The worst was with Covid. Hell, you guys still are so dumb to believe Covid was not made in a lab, masks work, social distancing was based on science, and the vaccines worked.

But the worst is you do not believe in your own votes mattering and having a fair primary process. You are never going to believe this because you douches think pro-Trump guys are mindless idiots who would never vote for anyone else but I voted for Obama over McCain in 2008, and if RFK Jr. Were the Democratic nominee, I would have considered him.

RFK Jr. Touches on two huge issues that no one in the Democratic field has. He was concerned about chronic diseases in the USA which are at epidemic levels and he is very anti-war. You can make fun of the America first Trump agenda but Dems continue to throw billions and trillions away in wars with no end in sight.

If you douches had insisted on your votes counting instead of going along with the idiotic notion of only having Biden's names on ballots, he could have and probably would have been your candidate.

And yet you douches kept calling him a nut. Well, guess what? Trump reached out to RFK Jr and admitted RFK Jr had some good points. https://nypost.com/2024/07/22/us-news/rfk-jr-dangled-gig-in-trump-administration-during-call-with-donald-report/.

Independent presidential aspirant Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Talked about a gig in the Trump administration during a discussion with the former president earlier this month, according to a report.

Kennedy, 70, and former President Donald Trump, 78, held private discussions ahead of the Republican National Convention, including a phone call that leaked out to the public last week in which the GOP nominee tried to court the independent candidate's endorsement.

During those talks, the two men discussed the possibility that Trump could give Kennedy a cabinet or lower-level position in his administration, the Washington Post reported.

The roles in question would have pertained to health-related issues, according to the outlet.

End of link.

Nobody with someone in their family with autism thinks RFK Jr is a nut. No one with a chronic disease should think he is either. And you got Trump reaching out to RFK Jr. Saying he has good points while Democrats are kicking him in the balls? WTF is that?

I am glad you are not sold on Kamala. I am not sure why. I hope it is because when she was younger all she was doing was sucking the dick of rappers and the ancient Willie Brown. I hope it is because she threw so many black people in jail and used them as indentured servants. I hope it is because you see that all she has done well in her life is kiss ass and suck dick. She has not earned any political position IMO. Everything has been handed to her. There is no way she gets the nomination if it was getting votes from the public.

When RFK Jr went on Joe Rogan and I heard what he had so say versus what was being said about him, I was uber impressed. Hell, even Joe Rogan apologized to him for thinking he was a nut because so many people said he was. He is the opposite of Kamala and Hiliary, the more you hear him talk, the more you like him.

And I actually want a good Democratic canddidate because that makes Republicans better too. Biden, Hiliary, and Harris remind me of and are worse than Romney, McCain, and Dole. In 2016, the powers that be put Jeb Bush out as our front runner. Remember that? I have dead fish more inspiring than him. The voters demanded better and got Trump, the most inspirational president since Reagan.

I cannot ignore the issues RFK Jr. Brings to the table, and honestly, no one should. He is a maybe to me whereas Biden and Harris are fuck nos. Xpartan is right.

I have been told Barron Trump, Trump's youngest son, is on the autism spectrum, and he looks like it to me. A lot of the crap about Melania not living in the WH is probably due to Barron as autistics do not do well with a change in environment. The hectic WH is not a good place for an autistic child. If you notice, no one mentions him much.

So while you all are off calling a Kennedy, a fucking Kennedy, a traitor and a nut, Trump is reaching out to him. I do not think I have ever seen Trump show this much respect to anyone before. RFK Jr. Could have given Trump a challenge at a debate. Shit, all Biden and Harris had were doing to win was censor, arrest, and then being negligent with security. They actually make Jeb Bush look good.

I really hope you all shrug off all the media / deep state driven narratives and demand better candidates and unless you all get the shit beaten out of you, and I hope that happens in this election, I doubt you all are going to change.

Elvis 2008
07-24-24, 21:31
I watched the hearing. After a lifetime of civilian service to have to be disrespectful individuals that are more similar to the the Medellin MoransSigh, SC, Medellin morons is a term I used to describe guys who always claim to be getting Colombian pussy for less than others and try to drag down guys who try to shoot for better. They revel in degrading men for trying to have more than a hooker-john relationship with women, shoot down guys who are striving to or dating elite Colombian women, and basically say anyone dating or getting the Colombian elite into bed are liars, and one said, "guys here cannot date women higher than estrato 4. ".

This dispute went on way before you even got to the forum but when you got there, you clearly put yourself in the camp of Medellin morons and not in mine when you repeated the dumb as a rock phrase pussy is pussy. If you want to judge who won by a vote of the guys on the forum, I lost. If you want to vote based on who guys have imitated what I have done, I win in a landslide. I blazed a path a lot of guys have been following. I was the first on the form openly championing sugar concepts and using seeking.com in Colombia.

I told you that I was going to judge you on what you said and not who you are. When you repeat the phrase pussy is pussy, you are a Medellin moron. Period. It is the same as saying cow is cow and bragging your McDonald's cheeseburger is the same as a fine steak and making fun of the guys eating steak and striving for the best steak they can find. Oh, you will go through a line of bullshit and rationalize what you have is just as good as what I and others have. Spare us! I have been where you are. I know what you have.

Your political foray is not even about politics. It is about your little ego being all butt hurt about being lumped in the Medellin moron camp. Sorry, you earned that with what you said.

Even without the steak analogy, the pussy is pussy statement is so derogatory towards women and speaks volumes about your attitudes towards them. It is literally saying the only part of a woman's body that gives your pleasure is between their legs. As I said in the seeking forum, when you have a good woman, she gives you so much pleasure that sex is just the cherry on top. You will want to argue about that too, how your women give you pleasure without their pussies. Again, spare us! You said what you said.

And now I am going to have to listen to your idiotic Democratic douche style shit about how pussy does not mean pussy and is does not mean is. Who do you think are the men saying pussy is pussy? The guys eating hamburger or the ones eating steak? While you played the game of being popular among the moron crowd, you identified yourself as a jealous hamburger eater.

You were so interested in being popular with the Medellin moron crowd you did not even consider by saying pussy is pussy, you put yourself in Gabacho's league where you are fucking disease ridden, ugly as fuck women. You want to rehab your image? Quit saying pussy is pussy, start showing examples of hot, classy women you are with, and stop being a narcissist where you can never admit you are wrong. Putting me down is not going to change anybody's mind about the quality of women you are banging.

Now quitting polluting this forum with your personal shit and keep the Medellin comments in the Medellin forums.

The Cane
07-24-24, 22:29
Well, here is what is not next, your last prediction that Biden would win.I'm not going to respond to the rest of your drivel. I have better things to do with my life. In fact, I already want back the time I spent writing this! But let me say this. You see, Biden will not only win once but twice by stepping aside. You're just too simple minded and unsophisticated to realize this. So let me break it down for you. Biden already beat Trump once in a direct confrontation. And he'll beat him again by passing the baton. Harris is his Vice President, so when she wins Biden too wins since she will carry on his legacy. Being the wise, elder statesman that he his, Biden put a political jiu jitsu move on your asses! He did something that Trump would never do, which is put country over party over self. Trump is the exact opposite putting self over party over country! Unpatriotic. Unprincipled. Undisciplined. Unscrupulous. And unfit for office! That's your guy. Felonious Chump. And "the Prosecutor" is about to gnaw on that ass! Victory shall be Biden's. Twice!

Elvis 2008
07-25-24, 00:01
I think either Newsom or Shapiro would be a better choice. But since this isn't happening, I hope she'll use the next 3 months wisely to change people's perception of her, LOL.LOL. So you admit the perception of her is bad? And you think people judge base on actions not deeds? Guess who wrote this?

Timeline of Events.

Sunday.

Joe Biden drops out.

Kamala Harris announces campaign with Biden endorsement.

Kamala Harris says she is going to work hard to earn the nomination.

Kamala Harris makes calls to party delegates.

Monday.

Kamala Harris continues making calls to party delegates.

Kamala Harris makes two public speeches.

AP announces Kamala Harris has secured enough delegates to be the Democratic Nominee (Monday night).

Kamala Harris releases this statement, noting she has worked hard to "go out and earn this nomination" as promised (Monday night).

A 24-hour process of talking to party bosses is not democratic, nor is it a process Democrats should be proud of. We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs.

Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites.

We call on the.

At DNC.

To create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates.

And guess who wrote this?

While Joe Biden wasn't our preferred candidate, we cannot ignore the troubling actions of the Democratic Party:

The DNC refused to host debates during the primary, even though a vast majority of Democratic voters wanted them. This would have likely allowed America to see the decline of Joe Biden in 2023.

The DNC changed the primary schedule and created rules that made it almost impossible for non-Biden candidates to appear on the ballot, effectively clearing the field of any challengers to the incumbent president.

Following the primary where millions of voters weighed in, after one poor debate performance, the DNC Party elites and billionaire donors bullied Joe Biden out of the race.

Now, Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public. This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values. We have no idea where Kamala Harris stands on the issues, now that she has assumed Joe Biden's place, and we have no idea of the record of her potential vice president because we don't even know who it is yet.

EihTooms
07-25-24, 01:16
You mean where Trump said to March peacefully, and the only person shot and killed was a Republican protestor? You mean the March where you Democratic douches were so anxious to say it caused deaths you counted security guards who committed suicide days and weeks later? You mean the March where the FBI director would not tell us how many FBI informants were in the crowds? You mean the March where gun owning MAGA citizens left their guns behind?

I think I can speak for most Republicans in saying the only reason to show up at the Democratic convention would be to laugh. The people protesting are in your party.

And you douches created your own issues within your party with your prowar nonsense and at least in the case of the Palestinians it has come back to bite you in the butt. Netanyahu has walked all over Dementia Joe and is using USA bombs to blow up people waving white flags screaming surrender. Everything Biden has done with the Israeli conflict has been a joke including building a dock that was swept away by the sea.

Well, here is what is not next, your last prediction that Biden would win. Hell, you do not even know what is going to happen next. Odds of Harris winning is at 80%, but that is only if people do not who she is. Right now, she is not Trump and not demented like Biden. Those are her supposed positives.

Tulsi Gabbard shredded Kamala Harris in the 2020 election debates. Now you have RFK JR. Just destroy her in 2 minutes here: https://twitter.com/EndTribalism/status/1815144842072048077

Odds are she is going to win the nomination but once people get over the fact that she can walk and talk unlike Biden and they actually see the real her, she is going to be cannon fodder.

AS for MAGA, douches like you think it is Trump when the reality is MAGA is a populist movement against bureaucracy and the deep state with which Trump is the face of. It is not going away with Trump. JD Vance will be leading it after him. In 2016, Ben Carson told Trump that either he or Trump would win the election because the party wanted an outsider, and the Democratic voters wanted the same. The Deep State just rigged things so Hiliary and not Bernie won.

After J6, Covid, the assassination attempt, an administration not being run by an elected candidate, and now a Democratic nominee who has not one one delegate's vote previously, the MAGA movement is stronger than ever. Who the fuck is running the Biden administration if not the deep state? If you think it is Joe Biden, you are as demented as he is.

So I cannot believe how dumb your comment is. You think a movement where the deep state picks who is president and runs the executive branch is going to outlast one where the citizens decide? That is the definition of a Democratic douche.

You are the fucking Nazis who do not believe in citizens not having the right to vote. The last honest Democratic primaries were in 2008 when Obama unexpectedly won.Trump never told anyone to "March peacefully" on January 6, 2021. I have heard and read the statement where here used the word "peacefully" but in no way was he telling anyone to remain peaceful, to demonstrate peacefully or to March peacefully nor would any of his bloodthirsty cult followers have heard it that way, which he well knew.

Do you have a link to the exact quote of Trump telling anyone to "March peacefully" on that day? If so, please post it.

EihTooms
07-25-24, 01:48
Chanting "hang Mike Pence" doesn't qualify?

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/25/trump-expressed-support-hanging-pence-capitol-riot-jan-6-00035117Here is another link that does not require signing up:

Trump chief of staff said the president thought Pence deserves chants of hang Mike Pence on Jan. 6, ex-aide testifies.
June 28, 2022

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/28/jan-6-hearing-trump-thought-pence-deserved-chants-to-hang-him-aide-says.html?__source=androidappshare


Cassidy Hutchinson, a former top aide to then-chief of staff Mark Meadows, in sworn testimony recounted her experience witnessing Meadows and another top official, White House counsel Pat Cipollone, discussing Trumps reaction as the riot unfolded.
.........
"I remember Pat saying something to the effect of, Mark, we need to do something more. Theyre literally calling for the vice president to be effing hung, Hutchinson testified.

Mark had responded something to the effect of, You heard him, Pat. He thinks Mike deserves it. He doesnt think theyre doing anything wrong, Hutchinson said.

She told the committee, I understood "theyre" to be the rioters in the Capitol that were chanting for the vice president to be hung.And there is this:

New Video Released of Construction of the January 6th Gallows

https://sfl.media/new-video-released-of-construction-of-the-january-6th-gallows/

BONUS LINK:

The Newly Anti-Assassination Donald J. Trump's pre shooting (at him) policy on allowing armed lunatics into his rallies and Insurrection attacks in his War Against America:

'They're not here to hurt me': Former aide says Trump knew Jan. 6 crowd was armed
Cassidy Hutchinson described violent outbursts from the former president on Jan. 6.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-panel-looks-trump-white-house-cassidy-hutchinson-testimony-rcna35550


Cassidy Hutchinson, who served as a senior aide to then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, detailed outbursts of rage from Trump the day he urged supporters to march to the Capitol, portraying him as angry and supportive of the Capitol attack as his last, desperate grasp to overturn the will of voters failed.

"I dont f---ing care that they have weapons, Trump fumed in urging aides to take down magnetometers (metal detectors) near the White House before he addressed a Stop the Steal rally, Hutchinson testified. Theyre not here to hurt me. Take the f---ing mags away.

EihTooms
07-25-24, 03:29
The numbers show that in 2016 and 2020 pollsters had been over counting likely Dem voters. Biden's final RealClearPolitics Concensus was +7. 2 points over Trump but the final election result was +4. 5 points. Several big name polling services had Biden a whopping 10 or 11 points ahead of Trump in the final week or two! The final result was less than HALF of that.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/trump-vs-biden

The fact that Biden led Trump in the polls so consistently throughout most of 2020 (and Clinton over Trump in 2016) should have been the tip off that pollsters' typical methodology in those years was way over counting Dems. The Polling services figured that out after the 2020 election.

So, what did they do after the 2020 election when it became clear to them that their methodology was notably over counting Dems in the prior two POTUS election years? They over compensated and have been way over counting Repubs ever since.

Which accounts for why actual Dem election results have been notably out performing their poll numbers vs Repubs over the past few years. And it also accounts for why, this time around, Trump has been polling ahead of Biden and now Harris by a consistent 2-3 points or the outer edge of a normal +/-MoE throughout this election year:

Why election polls were so wrong in 2016 and 2020 and whats changing to fix that.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/04/why-election-polls-were-wrong-in-2016-and-2020-and-whats-changing.html?__source=androidappshare


Levy added that SCRI is also taking an extra step to target Trump voters by modeling their sample to include a higher survey quota for people who are considered high-probability Trump voters in rural areas.

If you think of them as M&Ms, lets say the Trump M&M vote is red, Levy said. We have a few extra red M&Ms in the jar.It is too bad so many nervous Nellie's relied so much on these obviously over counted Trump-voter polls to give so much of a shit about polling results that are not even predictive of POTUS election wins anyway. And therefore to allow themselves to be terrified out of supporting or donating to the highly likely (historically) Dem incumbent winner by that and by typically lazy and pro Repub Mainstream Media only too eager to pound on those poll numbers every hour.

Let's hope they don't allow themselves to be terrified and their votes suppressed by those same factors into lessening their support for the current Dem (likely) candidate and eliminate another historically winning factor or two or three along the way between now and when actual voting begins.

EihTooms
07-25-24, 06:44
LOL. So you admit the perception of her is bad? And you think people judge base on actions not deeds? Guess who wrote this?

Timeline of Events.

Sunday.

Joe Biden drops out.

Kamala Harris announces campaign with Biden endorsement.

Kamala Harris says she is going to work hard to earn the nomination.

Kamala Harris makes calls to party delegates.

Monday.

Kamala Harris continues making calls to party delegates.

Kamala Harris makes two public speeches.

AP announces Kamala Harris has secured enough delegates to be the Democratic Nominee (Monday night).

Kamala Harris releases this statement, noting she has worked hard to "go out and earn this nomination" as promised (Monday night).

A 24-hour process of talking to party bosses is not democratic, nor is it a process Democrats should be proud of. We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs.

Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites.

We call on the.

At DNC.

To create a process that allows for public participation in the nomination process, not just a nomination by party delegates.

And guess who wrote this?

While Joe Biden wasn't our preferred candidate, we cannot ignore the troubling actions of the Democratic Party:

The DNC refused to host debates during the primary, even though a vast majority of Democratic voters wanted them. This would have likely allowed America to see the decline of Joe Biden in 2023.

The DNC changed the primary schedule and created rules that made it almost impossible for non-Biden candidates to appear on the ballot, effectively clearing the field of any challengers to the incumbent president.

Following the primary where millions of voters weighed in, after one poor debate performance, the DNC Party elites and billionaire donors bullied Joe Biden out of the race.

Now, Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public. This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values. We have no idea where Kamala Harris stands on the issues, now that she has assumed Joe Biden's place, and we have no idea of the record of her potential vice president because we don't even know who it is yet.Timeline of Events.

Thursday, July 18:

Dem primary voters, Dem delegates, Dem general election voters, Dem campaign donors both big and small, potential new voter registration Americans and the rest of America just witnessed the Loony America-Hating ChristoFacism Festival of Repub MAGA Lies that finished up with the Grand Finale of their Dear Cult Leader blathering endlessly and incoherently about Hannibal the Cannibal Lector, sharks, how his World's Worst Presdency with the Worst Results of All Time was "great" and how he can't wait to enact economic policies starting on Day One of his 2nd Term that will jack up Inflation, Trigger Massive Jobs Destruction and a Deep Recession or Depression even worse than those he produced with his 1st term policies aimed at creating, among other horrific results, Trump's Pandemic.

Not to take anything away from Kamala Harris. I think she has a Very Good chance of winning in November even if not the Excellent chance of winning that incumbent President Joe Biden possessed.

But it is my belief that the week following that RNC Horror Show would have driven thousands of young people to register to vote, a large crowd at the next Dem POTUS campaign rally and the tens of millions of dollars pledged to support the Dem Party no matter who was at the top of the POTUS ticket. If anything, it might have been even more of all of it if Biden had still remained at the top of the ticket due to his greater known quantity, accomplishments, already articulated plans for a 2nd term and his record in already beating Trump's ass in an election.

Yes, even Abigail Disney would have buckled by now, just 5-6 days after that RNC Horror Show closed and be flooding the Biden / Dem Campaign coffers with Mickey Money.

Meanwhile, the DNC Presidential Primary Delegate system is not the same as, say, a Constitutionally-mandated and -protected government election re individual voters in that primary:

Voting in a Primary Election: An Explainer.

https://www.rockthevote.org/voting-in-a-primary-election-an-explainer/


A presidential primary, or presidential preference primary, is typically an indirect election meaning the votes tallied are not directly for the candidate running for president. Rather, the votes are tallied and the state parties award delegates according to these votes and the partys allocation rules. These delegates then vote for their candidate at their partys national convention. The presidential candidate who wins the most delegate votes at their partys national convention will be on the ballot for the general election.

RamDavidson84
07-25-24, 13:46
MAGA is not Nazi! When was their an attempt to lynch pence? What was the guy's name who tried to lynch him? This is news to be me.

Democrats talk too much about building bridges over rivers which don't exist. If no criminals, why have police and prisons? Better make criminals some how- said the Warden. If true racism which actually effects social mobility has truly perished, You can be sure Democrats will figure out some way to make more racists to keep their pockets full of cash and pawns in office. Democrats profit off division and hate much more than Republican. Just imagine if ALL people decided to truly unite in USA and push a true America first agenda. You will never see a lower class get richer and happier quicker in history. China and Russia would shit their pants, maybe even peace in the middle east. Money Talks.

Walmart, Amazon, Target, Mcdonalds will never let it happen- they thrive off the poor and desperate.Its disrespectful and deceitful to even put NAZI and MAGA in the same sentence. Same with Jan. 6, unlawful protest is so clearly not an insurrection. ALLEGED provocative comments is not trying to lynch someone. Democrats lies will be their downfall. Youth sees them as desperate fibbers who are corrupt and power hungry and controlled by big tech and corporate America. They lost my vote for some time to come. Same how republicans lost my vote after terrible Iraq invasion over fake nuke programs.

Elvis 2008
07-25-24, 14:05
I have heard and read the statement where here used the word "peacefully" but in no way was he telling anyone to remain peaceful, to demonstrate peacefully or to March peacefully nor would any of his bloodthirsty cult followers have heard it that way, which he well knew.


You see, Biden will not only win once but twice by stepping aside. Biden put a political jiu jitsu move on your asses! Trump is the exact opposite putting self over party over country! Unpatriotic. Unprincipled.Peaceful means violent. Quitting means winning, and getting shot in the ear while running to serve the public as president is unpatriotic. And you guys wonder why I call you Democratic douches. With the way you guys twist words around, I am not sure why you do not think the term Democratic douche is a compliment.

Elvis 2008
07-25-24, 14:42
The numbers show that in 2016 and 2020 pollsters had been over counting likely Dem voters. Biden's final RealClearPolitics Concensus was +7. 2 points over Trump but the final election result was +4. 5 points. Several big name polling services had Biden a whopping 10 or 11 points ahead of Trump in the final week or two! The final result was less than HALF of that.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2020/trump-vs-biden

The fact that Biden led Trump in the polls so consistently throughout most of 2020 (and Clinton over Trump in 2016) should have been the tip off that pollsters' typical methodology in those years was way over counting Dems. The Polling services figured that out after the 2020 election.

So, what did they do after the 2020 election when it became clear to them that their methodology was notably over counting Dems in the prior two POTUS election years? They over compensated and have been way over counting Repubs ever since.

Which accounts for why actual Dem election results have been notably out performing their poll numbers vs Repubs over the past few years. And it also accounts for why, this time around, Trump has been polling ahead of Biden and now Harris by a consistent 2-3 points or the outer edge of a normal +/-MoE throughout this election year:

Why election polls were so wrong in 2016 and 2020 and whats changing to fix that.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/04/why-election-polls-were-wrong-in-2016-and-2020-and-whats-changing.html?__source=androidappshare

It is too bad so many nervous Nellie's relied so much on these obviously over counted Trump-voter polls to give so much of a shit about polling results that are not even predictive of POTUS election wins anyway. And therefore to allow themselves to be terrified out of supporting or donating to the highly likely (historically) Dem incumbent winner by that and by typically lazy and pro Repub Mainstream Media only too eager to pound on those poll numbers every hour.

Let's hope they don't allow themselves to be terrified and their votes suppressed by those same factors into lessening their support for the current Dem (likely) candidate and eliminate another historically winning factor or two or three along the way between now and when actual voting begins.I expected Harris to be up a little after this coup or whatever it was took place and the mug of Harris was everywhere. She is refreshing for now because she is not Biden and lo and behold, casino odds on her are up to the highest the Dems have seen in a while. She is at 37.5%. This is even higher than Biden was pre-debate.

Of course, that is a flash in the pan. Once people get over the she is not Biden bit and look at and get to know her, those numbers will go down.

The interesting angle is who is having the biggest gripes about her and from what I saw it is the blacks. Those passages I quoted to Xpartan were from BLM. Black commentators are saying she is not African American. Her black skin color is from a Jamaican father who was absent a lot of the time she was growing own. Kamala did not grow up in the hood but with a single Indian mother. So this is Barack 2. 0. In fact, her parents were both professors and one was at Stanford. If you talk about white privilege, Kamala may as well have been white with that pedigree and upbringing.

Dems like Schumer and Jeffries are out lying saying that this was a bottom up versus top down process. You have to be the biggest douche alive to buy that. Kamala was not the best candidate but may have access to that Biden money, and the money trail is showing that this bottom up process is bullshit.

https://x.com/TonySeruga

I'm told Harris campaign is already using ActBlue money laundering scheme, $20 million from Johann Georg Wyss known as Hansjrg Wyss, born 19 September 1935, a Swiss billionaire, and was broken down into over 1,600,000 donations across 400,000 donors. Dirty! Dirty! Dirty!

Then you have James O'Keefe knocking on the doors of Democratic donors asking if they have donated to Act Blue hundreds of time, and many are saying uh, no. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/funny-money-actblue-accused-massive-money-laundering-operation-trump-files-fec-complaint.

Dems are already griping they can get no one to volunteer for them because Democratic enthusiasm is at an all time low and normally, I would think this funding thing would be let go in normal times. Maybe the FEC does some fine or something. But with the fucking joke of a process to select Harris and the lawfare campaign against Trump and Biden's completely botched SS job and the Trump assassination, I think judges are going to act.

Republicans are questioning if Biden's jawboning SCOTUS meant that they too would get the shit SS protection like Trump did. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4788035-house-republicans-concerns-supreme-court-justices-safety/.

For the justices, worries came to a head two years ago after the Supreme Court's draft opinion overturning constitutional abortion protections was leaked.

The next month, a man was accused of attempting to murder Justice Brett Kavanaugh for showing up outside his home with a firearm. Congress passed new funding to extend security protections for justices' families, which has since been followed with additional budget requests.

The point is the days of judges turning a blind eye to the horrible wrongs like in 2020 are done. If the judges tie up these bullshit donations and funds in Biden's name, and they can easily do that, Kamala is done.

The Cane
07-25-24, 16:11
Its disrespectful and deceitful to even put NAZI and MAGA in the same sentence. Same with Jan. 6, unlawful protest is so clearly not an insurrection. ALLEGED provocative comments is not trying to lynch someone. Democrats lies will be their downfall. Youth sees them as desperate fibbers who are corrupt and power hungry and controlled by big tech and corporate America. They lost my vote for some time to come. Same how republicans lost my vote after terrible Iraq invasion over fake nuke programs.This whole post is disrespectful of American democracy, the rule of law, and the peaceful transfer of power. Those who believe in this "mularkey" as Biden puts it should be ashamed of themselves. Of course, those of us who love this experiment known as the United States of America know they aren't. Making it imperative for a victory at the ballot box. And preparations to see to it that the will of the people is done all over this land! Accept your lose at the ballot box and know when to cede power, as the elder statesman Joe Biden knows how to do. Or else, face the consequences! Federal "pound you in the ass" imprisonment!

EihTooms
07-25-24, 16:53
Peaceful means violent. Quitting means winning, and getting shot in the ear while running to serve the public as president is unpatriotic. And you guys wonder why I call you Democratic douches. With the way you guys twist words around, I am not sure why you do not think the term Democratic douche is a compliment.And Trump's telling his violent, cop-attacking, cop-killing mob of America-hating Insurrectionists on January 6, 2021 to March, Demonstrate, Protest or anything else Peacefully would go something like, "Please March Peacefully" or "Please Demonstrate Peacefully" or "Please Protest Peacefully", right?

None of which you could provide a link for because none of which came out of Trump's mouth at any time leading up to his America-hating mob storming the Capitol to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy and assassinate his VP and a few other elected officials.

Thanks.

LOL. Mainstream Media have been letting your boy, you and other Trumpsters get away with lying about that for a good 3 1/2 years so far, haven't they? LOL.

But I won't.

EihTooms
07-25-24, 17:00
I expected Harris to be up a little after this coup or whatever it was took place and the mug of Harris was everywhere. She is refreshing for now because she is not Biden and lo and behold, casino odds on her are up to the highest the Dems have seen in a while. She is at 37.5%. This is even higher than Biden was pre-debate.

Of course, that is a flash in the pan. Once people get over the she is not Biden bit and look at and get to know her, those numbers will go down.

The interesting angle is who is having the biggest gripes about her and from what I saw it is the blacks. Those passages I quoted to Xpartan were from BLM. Black commentators are saying she is not African American. Her black skin color is from a Jamaican father who was absent a lot of the time she was growing own. Kamala did not grow up in the hood but with a single Indian mother. So this is Barack 2. 0. In fact, her parents were both professors and one was at Stanford. If you talk about white privilege, Kamala may as well have been white with that pedigree and upbringing.

Dems like Schumer and Jeffries are out lying saying that this was a bottom up versus top down process. You have to be the biggest douche alive to buy that. Kamala was not the best candidate but may have access to that Biden money, and the money trail is showing that this bottom up process is bullshit.

https://x.com/TonySeruga

I'm told Harris campaign is already using ActBlue money laundering scheme, $20 million from Johann Georg Wyss known as Hansjrg Wyss, born 19 September 1935, a Swiss billionaire, and was broken down into over 1,600,000 donations across 400,000 donors. Dirty! Dirty! Dirty!

Then you have James O'Keefe knocking on the doors of Democratic donors asking if they have donated to Act Blue hundreds of time, and many are saying uh, no. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/funny-money-actblue-accused-massive-money-laundering-operation-trump-files-fec-complaint.

Dems are already griping they can get no one to volunteer for them because Democratic enthusiasm is at an all time low and normally, I would think this funding thing would be let go in normal times. Maybe the FEC does some fine or something. But with the fucking joke of a process to select Harris and the lawfare campaign against Trump and Biden's completely botched SS job and the Trump assassination, I think judges are going to act.

Republicans are questioning if Biden's jawboning SCOTUS meant that they too would get the shit SS protection like Trump did. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4788035-house-republicans-concerns-supreme-court-justices-safety/.

For the justices, worries came to a head two years ago after the Supreme Court's draft opinion overturning constitutional abortion protections was leaked.

The next month, a man was accused of attempting to murder Justice Brett Kavanaugh for showing up outside his home with a firearm. Congress passed new funding to extend security protections for justices' families, which has since been followed with additional budget requests.

The point is the days of judges turning a blind eye to the horrible wrongs like in 2020 are done. If the judges tie up these bullshit donations and funds in Biden's name, and they can easily do that, Kamala is done.Donald Trump's Gains With Black Voters Have Been Wiped Out.
July 25, 2024

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-black-voters-gains-wiped-out-1929974


Former president Donald Trump's gains with Black voters have been eroded since Joe Biden dropped out of the 2024 race and Vice President Kamala Harris became the expected Democratic nominee, according to polls.
.........
A CNN poll conducted on July 22 and 23, surveying 1,631 registered voters who had previously participated in CNN polls in April and June, found that Harris had the support of 78 percent of Black voters, while Trump had 15 percent. A previous poll had 23 percent of Black voters backing Trump, while 73 percent backed Biden.

Meanwhile, an ActiVote survey, conducted between July 21 and 23, found Black voters were overwhelmingly backing Harris90 percent said they were supporting Harris, while 10 percent were backing Trump.

EihTooms
07-25-24, 17:18
Well, apparently, none of that is true.

USA Economy grew at a 2.8% pace in the second quarter, much more than expected.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/25/us-gdp-q2-2024.html?__source=androidappshare


Real gross domestic product increased at a 2.8% annualized pace in the second quarter, above the 2.1% forecast.

The personal consumption expenditures price index, a key measure for the Fed, rose 2.6% for the quarter, down from the 3.4% move in Q1. Core PCE prices were up 2.9%, down from 3.7%.

However, the report also indicated that the personal savings rate continues to decelerate, at 3.5% for the quarter, compared with 3.8% in Q1.

Initial jobless claims declined by 10,000, while durable goods orders unexpectedly plunged.
..........
Economic activity in the U.S. was considerably stronger than expected during the second quarter, boosted by a strong consumer, government spending and a sizeable inventory build, according to an initial estimate Thursday from the Commerce Department.

Real gross domestic product, a measure of all the goods and services produced during the April-through-June period, increased at a 2.8% annualized pace adjusted for seasonality and inflation. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for growth of 2.1% following a 1.4% rise in the first quarter..Thanks, Joe.

I forget. What was happening 4 years ago? Oh, right; Gas prices were lower. Anything else?

SubCmdr
07-25-24, 18:40
I blazed a path a lot of guys have been following. I was the first on the form openly championing sugar concepts and using seeking.com in Colombia.Please, I was was using sugar concepts in the USA for 10 years before I moved out of the USA. Sugar babies are just prostitutes with a different marketing plan.


I told you that I was going to judge you on what you said and not who you are.You are not in the position to judge me or anyone else. When were you appointed to the bench in any mother fucking court?


And now I am going to have to listen to your idiotic Democratic douche style shit about how pussy does not mean pussy and is does not mean is.You don't know my registered political party *****. Bet I can guess which one you are registered to. But I am not going to put it out there because honestly I don't know.


Putting me down is not going to change anybody's mind about the quality of women you are banging.I am not sure if you have a reading compression problem or it just difficulties in mental acuity. You came out of the box with personal insults Elvis. You know it! I didn't even know who the fuck you were. When I posted about my high quality girl in Colombia. Who is not a sugar baby nor sex worker of any kind. You with MiamiBoy as your side kick started up with the "nobody wants to hear about your girlfriend" bullshit.


Now quitting polluting this forum with your personal shit and keep the Medellin comments in the Medellin forums.It is the bullshit you keep writing that is polluting this forum. Think you can tell me where I can post and what I can post? Try this experiment, wish into one had and shit into another and see which one fills up first.

Want to talk politics: Republicans are racist and sexist. Trump is pandering for the crypto vote and I don't believe for one minute is his going to follow through on anything that would provide less control for himself as President. Crypto clearly does that. But the Democrats have made a clear mistake in judging the power of the "crypto" vote. It is a brilliant political strategy by the republicans. Just saw a article with the headline: Trump raises 4 million in #Bitcoin and crypto.

I am a one issue voter this election. But not because I find any redeeming qualities in the republican candidate for President.

Now stop with all the ad hominem attacks. Adjust your perception and take a step back and get some perspective. I've address this issue with you before. I am addressing it again.

Remember that you have accused me of being a socialist. I am a stone cold capitalist!


Does this idiot get the concept of supply and demand or is he another socialist that he thinks that he deserves better service because of his virtue signaling?How is your investment portfolio doing? Are the increases due to politics? Has it continued to go up even with the economy under democratic hands?


It is very clear to me that you do not understand the most basic aspects of the capital economy. You are comparing a consumer market (buying pussy) to an investment market (real estate, commodities, stock market, bond market). In one (the consumer) burns the money expended in the market. In the other the money is spent with an expectation that they receive an asset and it appreciates in value.

Do you even know what symbols like BTC, ETH, ADA, AAPL DVN, NVDA represent? You know how to calculate the DFC of the projected future cash flows of a real estate investment in order to determine the proper amount to pay for it regardless of demand? Do you know what it actually means to be a capitalist where you buy or start a business, meet a payroll and earn a profit? Or have you been a wage slave your entire life?DVN up 65+; AAPL up 51%, MSTR up 108+, BTC up 150%; NVDA up 776%+ since I wrote the above. My gains had nothing to do with any politician in Washington, DC. Everything to do with the recognition of the market of value and quality. Along with my ability to allocate capital correctly. So call me stupid all you want. I am not judging my life by who I stick my dick into or cheering for my team like a cheerleader with poms poms. Take off your skirt Elvis. It is unbecoming for a man unless it is a kilt.

The defense rests!

RamDavidson84
07-25-24, 18:45
This whole post is disrespectful of American democracy, the rule of law, and the peaceful transfer of power. Those who believe in this "mularkey" as Biden puts it should be ashamed of themselves. Of course, those of us who love this experiment known as the United States of America know they aren't. Making it imperative for a victory at the ballot box. And preparations to see to it that the will of the people is done all over this land! Accept your lose at the ballot box and know when to cede power, as the elder statesman Joe Biden knows how to do. Or else, face the consequences! Federal "pound you in the ass" imprisonment!Shameful doesn't equate to insurrection. Jan. 6 was shameful and disgraceful, but it wasn't anything close to an insurrection. Unfortunately, Republicans fought fire with fire after last election. 2016, Dems pulled fake Russia conspiracy and then falsely impeached Trump over 100% nonsense. FACT. This broke the trust of Republicans and they had enough and fought back. I am not saying I agreed with everything that happened, just telling you why in my opinion. But you seem like a smart guy, I am sure you already know this, but got to back your boy no matter what.

Spidy
07-25-24, 21:37
Peaceful means violent. Quitting means winning, and getting shot in the ear while running to serve the public as president is unpatriotic. And you guys wonder why I call you Democratic douches. With the way you guys twist words around, I am not sure why you do not think the term Democratic douche is a compliment.(...kkkk!) You QAnon/MAGA conspiracy dolts, love a good twisted frame-up, as you wet-the-bed, in your conspiratorial wet-dreams.

Biden did NOT quit, he was pushed out, unfortunately by Dems and donors, who unnecessarily panicked. See the difference?


LOL. I have been using the term Democratic douche for over a year and not been censored. Now some new clown comes on here and blanks it out. If you do not know the administrators on this site run blue, you have been smoking what Tooms does. Or maybe the administrator was traumatized by Biden's withdrawal and needed a whipping post. If that is the case, I am glad he feels better after employing a favorite leftoid tactic, censorship.

Yep, there it is...that Elvis 2008, venom, derision and disrespect, that he prides himself on dishing out to ISG Admin (no less) and his fellow ISGers, with the aim of securing his very own, "Potty Mouth Merit Badge".

You just gotta keep "thumbing your nose", at ISG Administration, with such disrespect, contempt and a sign of impudence, with that "potty mouth" of yours. I hope that the disdain, disrespect and mockery your displaying by "thumbing of the nose" at ISG Administration come with some more "[Deleted by Admin]" Admin Blue.

Carry on...I'm sure ISG Admin loves being called a clown!

SubCmdr
07-25-24, 21:47
Elvis,

Since when does calling your political opponent (in other words all individuals in the entire world posting on ISG) names qualify as intelligent political debate? Do you think calling people dumb, stupid, democratic douches elevates you and your political views over others. Or does it just make you feel good. Try writing a post or paragraph with more than two sentences without insulting the person you are directing your post at. I have a 100 FRN that says you cannot do it.

Prove me wrong!

Xpartan
07-25-24, 22:04
Trump never told anyone to "March peacefully" on January 6, 2021. I have heard and read the statement where here used the word "peacefully" but in no way was he telling anyone to remain peaceful, to demonstrate peacefully or to March peacefully nor would any of his bloodthirsty cult followers have heard it that way, which he well knew.

Do you have a link to the exact quote of Trump telling anyone to "March peacefully" on that day? If so, please post it.To be fair, yes, he did use the word "peacefully" in his speech. The question is HOW he used it.

Let's remember, it was a long fucking speech, LOL.

The only reason why this astute moron has (astonishingly) not yet seen the inside of a prison IMHO is that he has smart lawyers. This article explains how he used the word "peacefully" to give his lawyers an opportunity to claim he didn't incite a resurrection.


Democrats have pointed to one phrase in particular as they argue that Trump incited those present to march down Pennsylvania Avenue toward the Capitol.

"We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore," he said.

His defense lawyers, however, point to a different passage, in which Trump said, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." They argue that his words were not a call for actual violence and lawlessness.Below is the link to his long, dreadful and nauseating speech. A normal intelligent person (as opposed to a Trump tribe / cult member) won't have a trouble to surmise the actual Trump's message.

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

TL; DR? Don't worry, here is the gist of that "historical" speech.

- Praising supporters.

- Praising himself.

- "Election steal" allegations.

- Veiled threat to Mike Pence.

- Threats against Dems.

- Whining about "RINOs".

- More dumb lies and threats.

- "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.".

- Lies and bragging (taxes, VA, economic achievements).

- Praising himself.

- Praising supporters.

- Extreme whining and personal attacks (China, media, Hunter, China again, "election steal", Brian Kemp, the Obamas, Bill Barr).

- Endless whining against the Pennsylvania count.

- Wisconsin, Georgia, Stacey Adams, Brian Kemp: whining, personal attacks.

- Whining and false "steal" allegations: Georgia, Fulton County, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Dominion Voting Systems.

- Call for the Republicans to "get tougher".

- Another jab at Pence.

- "We won in a landslide. ".

- More whining about "illegal voting".

- "Biden's caravans" are forming" to "rip off our country".

- "And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.".

- "The Democrats are hopeless. ".

- Thank you.

THE END.

Any grownup who's not an idiot and / or liar can't help but make two conclusions: (1) the "marching peacefully" bit was inserted into the speech by Trump's lawyers, and (2) the whole speech is built up to climax at the end ("fight like hell".

There is no other way to read it.

Xpartan
07-25-24, 22:31
Its disrespectful and deceitful to even put NAZI and MAGA in the same sentence. Same with Jan. 6, unlawful protest is so clearly not an insurrection. ALLEGED provocative comments is not trying to lynch someone. Democrats lies will be their downfall. Youth sees them as desperate fibbers who are corrupt and power hungry and controlled by big tech and corporate America. They lost my vote for some time to come. Same how republicans lost my vote after terrible Iraq invasion over fake nuke programs.


ALLEGED provocative comments is not trying to lynch someone.Say what?

In your previous comment you stated (I quote): "When was their an attempt to lynch pence? What was the guy's name who tried to lynch him? This is news to be me. ".

I answered in the best (and I believe the only) possible way.

When?

On January 6, 2021.

What was the "guy's" name?

You know all too well that there wasn't just one guy. Their collective name is MAGA crowd that chanted "hang Mike Pence".

Are you driving at what you perceive a technicality here? Yes, the mob didn't succeed hanging Pence because they didn't manage to catch him, but it was still a very close call.


Marching on the US Capitol on 6 January 2021, a supporter of Donald Trumps attempt to overturn the 2020 election recorded himself on his phone.

He said: Im telling you, if Pence caved, were gonna drag motherfuckers through the streets. You fucking politicians are gonna get fucking took to the streets.

Mike Pence, Trumps vice-president, refused to stop certification of Joe Bidens victory. In the eyes of Trump and the mob, he did indeed cave.


On Thursday, in their third hearing, the seven Democrats and two Republicans on the House January 6 committee also displayed a court filing from the Department of Justice revealing the shocking scope of the threat to Pence during the attack on the Capitol.

The document, the California Democrat Pete Aguilar said, explains that a confidential informant in the Proud Boys told the FBI the Proud Boys would have killed Mike Pence if given a chance.


Approximately 40ft, Aguilar said. Thats all there was: 40ft between the vice-president and the mob. Make no mistake, the vice-presidents life was in danger.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/16/mike-pence-40ft-from-mob-january-6

So are you trying to tell us that just because the MAGA mob didn't get their hands on Pence, in your mind they didn't try to lynch him?

Spidy
07-26-24, 00:43
Its disrespectful and deceitful to even put NAZI and MAGA in the same sentence. Same with Jan. 6, unlawful protest is so clearly not an insurrection.
(...kkkk!) I see we have yet another, QAnon/MAGA conspiracist in our mist? (....kkkk!)

The Cane, equated (or implied) MAGA-dom with Nazism and Hitler, was IMHO very much spot-on. Your own, QAnon/MAGA and running-mate JD Vance, for fuck-sake, was interviewed saying "Trump is an American Hitler". Perhaps you should take up your feeble argument with JDV?

The very takeover, destruction and total dismantling of the GOP/RNC and transformed into a fascist party by Trump and family members, is akin to Hitlers and Mussolini rise of fascism amoung their Brownshirts and Blackshirts (respectively) foot soldiers, in Europe at the time. The history is rife with similar parallelisms to MAGA-dom, with people, political figures, pundits and MSM, on multiple occasions, calling Trump a Neo-Nazi sympathizer.

And as for the J6 not being an insurrection (...kkkk!) You QAnon/MAGA conspiracists just love your "revisionist history" and sieve like memories of a goldfish. What's next Santa Clause is a white man? (...kkkk!)

As for being disrespectful...NO NOT ALL! The Cane was spot on, and simply told the TRUTH! In fact, if you truly took the time to know your "American Hitler", you'd come to agree with The Cane!


... The interesting angle is who is having the biggest gripes about her and from what I saw it is the blacks. Those passages I quoted to Xpartan were from BLM.

Black commentators are saying she is not African American. Her black skin color is from a Jamaican father who was absent a lot of the time she was growing own. Kamala did not grow up in the hood but with a single Indian mother. So this is Barack 2. 0. In fact, her parents were both professors and one was at Stanford. If you talk about white privilege, Kamala may as well have been white with that pedigree and upbringing. ...

Most definitely Veep Harris has won back whatever small marginal Black voters, Trump may have had. Black voters will undoubtedly vote their conscience and gain back, the kind of political and social relevance that they had 100% under Obama and never saw even 5% under Trump.

Speaking of a really suspect and questionable backgrounds. Trump's Nazi and Neo-Nazi history is laced with troubling exploits, the Repubs overlooked until it was too late!

It was Trump's papa, who was arrested twice (2x) at KKK (that would be Ku Klux Klan...and not me laughing in Porto...kkkk!) rallies in 1927 and 1976, with history of ties to Nazi Germany, from wince he came. No doubt, papa learned his chants at KKK rallies, of burn the Blacks, Jews and queers (as reported at KKK rallies) from his white supremacist homeland of Nazi Germany, back in the day. (Or did Germany learn it from Americans? Hmmm...)

Trump has claimed he's never read 'Mein Kampf," (book found at beside by jilted, porn star scorned wife, aside), he has repeatedly, invoked Hitler's name and the title of his memoir at a political rally, but there have been multiple reports over the years of Trump expressing a keen interest in, even admiration for, Hitler's rule over Nazi Germany, just like daddy Trump has told him, many a bedtime story.

Every time Donald Trump has invoked Hitler and the Nazis
https://forward.com/fast-forward/615880/donald-trump-hitler-nazi-references/

July 14, 2015: Trump tweets picture with SS soldiers in background
March 8, 2016: Trump responds to Hail Trump calls and Hitler comparisons
January 19, 2017: Sebastian Gorka, top Trump aide, appears on Fox News wearing Nazi gear
2017-2020: Trump compares his crowd turnout to Hitlers (twice)
June 18, 2020: Facebook takes down Trump ad featuring Nazi symbol
November-December, 2023: Ive never read Mein Kampf
March 2024: John Kelly says Trump said Hitler did some good things
May 21, 2024: Unified Reich

Lets face it yall, your orange MAGA presumptive nominee and pussy grabbing wannabe fascist dictator, loves being compared to, the infamous and nefarious evil tyrants and despots of yesteryear and even some of today's sickos.

Its adorable and yet hideously disturbing, how you QAnon/MAGA cult foot soldiers, constantly and continually try to spread the disinformation about his known and related ties to racism, fascism, the KKK and a Nazi history.

SubCmdr
07-26-24, 01:50
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/politics/the-future-of-bitcoin-in-america-will-be-decided-at-the-ballot-box

The above article lays out the stark contrast on the issue most important to me on the next ballot: Crypto.

Because of Democratic bumbling on the issue I am force to hold my nose and support a party that otherwise is insensitive basic issues important to me many on my fellow americans. A party that welcomes, accepts and support views that are hostile again my fellows american who may not be in the position to reap the benefits of crypto at this time because of economic policies that priority punitive measures against those who are economically self sufficient.

But I have to take care of me before I can take care of others. So, I most vote in my economic self interests. It is horrible to be from a country that only presents you with binary choices a important decision. It is time for third party. A party that in independence of both the donkey and the elephant.

Let us see how many individuals can respond to this post without insults and name calling. In my opinion it does nothing to support your cause, is illogical and put your ideas on mental ignore immediately.

SubCmdr
07-26-24, 02:13
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/trump-calls-bitcoin-experience-eye-opening-its-not-going-away

The democrats just keep fucking up on this issue. Democratic supporters up in here need to show me the reason to support their candidate given their hostility to crypto.

MarquisdeSade1
07-26-24, 14:58
Its disrespectful and deceitful to even put NAZI and MAGA in the same sentence. Same with Jan. 6, unlawful protest is so clearly not an insurrection. ALLEGED provocative comments is not trying to lynch someone. Democrats lies will be their downfall. Youth sees them as desperate fibbers who are corrupt and power hungry and controlled by big tech and corporate America. They lost my vote for some time to come. Same how republicans lost my vote after terrible Iraq invasion over fake nuke programs.Bubba is way worse for the American people than Adolph!!

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/07/right-and-left-are-wrong-about-j-d-vance/

The Cane
07-26-24, 15:37
Elvis,

Since when does calling your political opponent (in other words all individuals in the entire world posting on ISG) names qualify as intelligent political debate? Do you think calling people dumb, stupid, democratic douches elevates you and your political views over others. Or does it just make you feel good. Try writing a post or paragraph with more than two sentences without insulting the person you are directing your post at. I have a 100 FRN that says you cannot do it.I see you're late to the party when it comes to dealing with Elvis. You're wasting your time. I stopped trying to reason and rationalize with these QAnon / MAGA dolts a long time ago. They're not interested in intelligent debate and are quite comfortable in their wilful ignorance. The best thing I can do is join with others to keep them out of office, both high and low, all across this land. Just beat them at the ballot box! That's what must be done.

MarquisdeSade1
07-26-24, 16:43
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/25/opinion/kamala-nomination-democrats.html

EihTooms
07-26-24, 17:24
To be fair, yes, he did use the word "peacefully" in his speech. The question is HOW he used it.

Let's remember, it was a long fucking speech, LOL.

The only reason why this astute moron has (astonishingly) not yet seen the inside of a prison IMHO is that he has smart lawyers. This article explains how he used the word "peacefully" to give his lawyers an opportunity to claim he didn't incite a resurrection.

Below is the link to his long, dreadful and nauseating speech. A normal intelligent person (as opposed to a Trump tribe / cult member) won't have a trouble to surmise the actual Trump's message.

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial

TL; DR? Don't worry, here is the gist of that "historical" speech.

- Praising supporters.

- Praising himself.

- "Election steal" allegations.

- Veiled threat to Mike Pence.

- Threats against Dems.

- Whining about "RINOs".

- More dumb lies and threats.

- "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.".

- Lies and bragging (taxes, VA, economic achievements).

- Praising himself.

- Praising supporters.

- Extreme whining and personal attacks (China, media, Hunter, China again, "election steal", Brian Kemp, the Obamas, Bill Barr).

- Endless whining against the Pennsylvania count.

- Wisconsin, Georgia, Stacey Adams, Brian Kemp: whining, personal attacks.

- Whining and false "steal" allegations: Georgia, Fulton County, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Dominion Voting Systems.

- Call for the Republicans to "get tougher".

- Another jab at Pence.

- "We won in a landslide. ".

- More whining about "illegal voting".

- "Biden's caravans" are forming" to "rip off our country".

- "And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.".

- "The Democrats are hopeless. ".

- Thank you.

THE END.

Any grownup who's not an idiot and / or liar can't help but make two conclusions: (1) the "marching peacefully" bit was inserted into the speech by Trump's lawyers, and (2) the whole speech is built up to climax at the end ("fight like hell".

There is no other way to read it.You are right. That is the only quote of Trump using the word "peacefully" in his remarks to his violent Insurrectionists.

Being a passive-aggressive malignant narcissist "with all the best words", Trump knew very well there was absolutely nothing in that statement that could be taken as a "direction" or an "order" for them to actually DO anything "peacefully. ".

"I know you won't eat that last cookie in the jar. ".

"I know you will clean your room while I am at work. ".

Means absolutely nothing and he and they knew it.

"But, mommy, mommy, mommy, you didn't TELL me not to eat that cookie or to clean my room"!

Elvis 2008
07-26-24, 17:57
You just gotta keep "thumbing your nose",at ISG Administration, with such disrespect, contempt and a sign of impudence, with that "potty mouth" of yours. I hope that the disdain, disrespect and mockery your displaying by "thumbing of the nose" at ISG Administration.

Carry on...I'm sure ISG Admin loves being called a clown!As I have said before, and it seems to be a little lost with you subjective douches types, I judge people on what they do not the label they carry. If an admin blanks out something I have been posting over a year, he is not doing a good job. On the flip side, now that he has seen the term douche being used for years by me and not censored, he has done his job and is allowing it.

I did not take it personally and a good admin is an objective one.

But to a douche like you, an admin marking in blue is some kind of victory. Well, if that is how you judge things, you just lost. I do not take it as a victory. I see it as an admin now doing a good job now and being objective. Unlike you who thinks an admin declares one side as winner, I think of an admin like a ref, and refs should not be siding with anyone.

When I call you all Democratic douches, you can take it personally but it is an objective term. Not everyone who votes Democrat is a douche. The problem is you douches do not think. You just admit whatever idiotic narrative the MSM feeds you. You repeat it and think that makes you smart as opposed to thinking and being critical of it, and this is a textbook example.


(...kkkk!) You QAnon/MAGA conspiracy dolts, love a good twisted frame-up, as you wet-the-bed, in your conspiratorial wet-dreams.

Biden did NOT quit, he was pushed out, unfortunately by Dems and donors, who unnecessarily panicked. See the difference?And this is exactly what I mean. The only way to legally remove a duly elected president is via impeachment or the 25th amendment. It is illegal to push out a duly elected nominee as well. You literally are buying the media bullshit that the votes of those in your party do not matter and because you do not read or listen to anything but the MSM bullshit, you are not seeing groups like BLM that are saying this is wrong. You mean are votes do not matter? Only George's Clooney's vote does?

And it is not helping in the sense that we think you all cheated in 2020. Shit, here you all are literally saying votes do not matter.

Here is a novel idea you dumb douche. Don't mention conspiracy nuts and dolts when you dumb Democrats literally had a conspiracy!

But even that does not get to the real issue of why you and Cane are such douches. Instead of manning up and admitting that your prediction of Biden winning as being wrong, you attack me and try to change the subject. Cane with his idiotic notion that Biden is going to win twice and you with your semantic bullshit. Do you understand what happened Elvis? Pathetic.

Tooms was right about the market, and I was wrong. I fessed up to it, but you two act like women and try to deflect it, and that is why you two are soy boys. Like pathetic women, you two cannot admit you were wrong.

So Biden was not forced out and for those of us with thinking brains, we know he had to withdraw and he gave every indication he did not want to. You will swallow the MSM narrative that Biden saw polling saying he could not win and graciously dropped out for the good of American and the party.

Those of us who have followed Biden and know his history are so skeptical that is the reason. What we want to know is this, how much? How much did it cost the Democratic leadership to get Biden out?

So call us conspiracy theorists if you want to, but you are a naive idiot if you think Biden did not get a payout to step down.

MarquisdeSade1
07-26-24, 23:15
LMAO.

We need a really good cut man lolololol.

I used to box in the early 80's I haven't heard that term in probably over 40 yrs lolololol.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/07/26/carville-democrats-giddy-elation-over-vp-harris-wont-be-helpful-much-longer/

Allahu Akbar MOFOS!

Elvis 2008
07-27-24, 00:17
I stopped trying to reason and rationalize with these QAnon / MAGA dolts a long time ago.Can you be more specific? Are you referring to when you were wrong and said Biden was going to win the 2024 election when he was still running? Yes, by all mean, your using the terms dolts, QANon, and MAGA when you were dead wrong is what we all expect from a Democratic douche from you.

Or are you talking about the second time you said Biden was going to win the 2024 election? After he quit? Nothing like a bat shit crazy person admitting they are sane and everyone else is crazy.

Nothing says douche more than fucking up and saying you did nothing wrong. You are like the secret service director who quit before she went to Congress. Why are you in Congress so mad at me? You think I screwed up? Really?

EihTooms
07-27-24, 01:29
Thanks again and again and again, Joe. And thank you, Kamala, for contributing much to the post-Republican National Convention America-hating Clown Show Recovery.

Stocks soar, Dow closes 650 points higher buoyed by bullish inflation report.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/25/stock-market-today-live-updates.html?__source=androidappshare


Stocks jumped Friday, and Wall Street capped off a turbulent week on a positive note as investors weighed fresh U.S. inflation data.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average rallied 654.27 points, or 1.64%, to finish at 40,589.34. The S&P 500 climbed 1.11% to end at 5,459.10, while the Nasdaq Composite gained 1.03% to close at 17,357.88.

Fridays moves stem from a combination of oversold sentiment, a stronger-than-expected GDP report Thursday and the view that the Federal Reserve will begin cutting rates due to economic resilience, said CFRA Researchs Sam Stovall.

Todays benign PCE report helped talk the market off the ledge, he added. With this pullback, the great rotation lives on and breadth continues to be on our side.

Elvis 2008
07-27-24, 03:02
LMAO.

We need a really good cut man lolololol.

I used to box in the early 80's I haven't heard that term in probably over 40 yrs lolololol.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/07/26/carville-democrats-giddy-elation-over-vp-harris-wont-be-helpful-much-longer/

Allahu Akbar MOFOS!I can't believe it. I agreed with everything Carville said. That is a first! Good link, MDS.

Xpartan
07-27-24, 03:29
Nothing says douche more than fucking up and saying you did nothing wrong. You are like the secret service director who quit before she went to Congress. Why are you in Congress so mad at me? You think I screwed up? Really?Is everything OK with you, Elvis? Seriously, are you on something? You know, the way you're forming sentences is a wee bit concerning. After all, aren't you younger than Biden and even Trump?

The Cane
07-27-24, 12:53
Can you be more specific? Are you referring to when you were wrong and said Biden was going to win the 2024 election when he was still running? Yes, by all mean, your using the terms dolts, QANon, and MAGA when you were dead wrong is what we all expect from a Democratic douche from you.

Or are you talking about the second time you said Biden was going to win the 2024 election? After he quit? Nothing like a bat shit crazy person admitting they are sane and everyone else is crazy.

Nothing says douche more than fucking up and saying you did nothing wrong. You are like the secret service director who quit before she went to Congress. Why are you in Congress so mad at me? You think I screwed up? Really?I had to take the man for his word. He said he wasn't getting out of the race, and I believed him. But I was smart enough to change my mind and join the growing chorus calling for him to step back since it became obvious he no longer had full command of his faculties. And he was wise enough to do the right thing for country and party. And that's precisely how he wins twice. Once by a direct challenge to Trump in a one-on-one foot race. Then by passing the baton in a second race. Again, you demonstrate your simple mindedness and inability to grasp this reality. And in this lies a perfect example of "specificity" regarding the waste of life debating with your ilk. You don't get it. You don't want to get it. Willful ignorance and mean-spirited stupidity. All I care about is doing what it takes to beat you dolts at the ballot box. Whatever it takes. Just win baby!

CheckMate1
07-27-24, 17:00
I had to take the man for his word. He said he wasn't getting out of the race, and I believed him. But I was smart enough to change my mind and join the growing chorus calling for him to step back since it became obvious he no longer had full command of his faculties. And he was wise enough to do the right thing for country and party. And that's precisely how he wins twice. Once by a direct challenge to Trump in a one-on-one foot race. Then by passing the baton in a second race. Again, you demonstrate your simple mindedness and inability to grasp this reality. And in this lies a perfect example of "specificity" regarding the waste of life debating with your ilk. You don't get it. You don't want to get it. Willful ignorance and mean-spirited stupidity. All I care about is doing what it takes to beat you dolts at the ballot box. Whatever it takes. Just win baby!Cane,

Like you, initially, I thought Biden still has it in him at age 81. But after I watched the debate, I was WRONG about Biden's chances of winning, and that's okay that I was wrong. Biden, after talking to his advisers, family and friends came to the conclusion that he needed to move on. And that's someone who's aware of where he is in life. The felon on the other hand, has a more valid reason in staying in, namely prison.

For anyone in MAGA to admit that they're wrong about anything, it would mean the world would collapse on them and fracture their egos.

Normally, in presidential races, after your convention the candidate usually enjoys a few points bump in the polls, which they did for about 2 days. And in fact, after the debate, Biden went from positive to negative for those 4 weeks. Plus add in a point or two for assissination attempt (which I think is horrible that someone did that; no room for that shit at all in politics). So in a single swoop, Biden erased all that momentum in a week worth of renewed enthusiasm, and now it is even or where it was before the debate, with VP announcement and convention still to be had.

Prosecutor V Felon.

I know which side I'm on for this race.

The Cane
07-27-24, 17:21
For anyone in MAGA to admit that they're wrong about anything, it would mean the world would collapse on them and fracture their egos. Prosecutor V Felon. I know which side I'm on for this race.Plus 1,000 percent!

MarquisdeSade1
07-27-24, 22:23
McKinley.

JFK.

RFK.

Ford (twice).

Reagan.

4 times the shooter made a direct hit. 3 times the target victim died.

All had male Directors of the Secret Service. No mention of DEI. No mention of PC. No demands on both sides for anyone to resign.

I wonder if any one of them except Ford would have happily traded their Secret Service protection results over a grazed ear, possibly by glass shards going along for the ride rather than the bullet itself.If you have ever did any hiring of people, you can only hire the best people that actually exist, or you can hire down and go the Frito Lays route.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/07/23/kamala-harris-supporters-fear-democrat-women-losing-elections-causes-ptsd/

Losing isn't fair!! They are better than us, they have XY chromosomes LMAO.

I sure hope during the debate if the DNC doesn't hatchet Harris also by then lololol.

Our Lord and Savior says I have 5 kids with 3 wives.

Ask her how many kids she has? Or better yet how kids has she aborted lolol THANK GOD for abortion!

I should run some TV spots asking that question, can I start an ISG gofundme page for donations?

Woodman09
07-28-24, 00:46
Cane,

Like you, initially, I thought Biden still has it in him at age 81. But after I watched the debate, I was WRONG about Biden's chances of winning, and that's okay that I was wrong. Biden, after talking to his advisers, family and friends came to the conclusion that he needed to move on. And that's someone who's aware of where he is in life. The felon on the other hand, has a more valid reason in staying in, namely prison.
Where have you been for 5+ years? I mean Dementia Joe has been Babbling stupid shit for years -- How could you miss that?- did you believe the MSNBC and other scumbag media with their Usually be-S Conspearaceeeeeee. Claims-- -You finally pulled your head out of your ass? But maybe not.

Now the Scumbag media is trying to gaslight everyone about Kamala's border and her Great LOL performance over the last 4 yrs? Are you believing that Bullshit too?? Don't forget Kamala Lied like Hell about Dementia Joe's condition for years too-- Hell she was lying 2 weeks ago.

Why'all are funny with your Trump in Prison Jack -off fantasies too-- How Many times have you beat off to those over the years?

This is a Great Kamala commercial tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQI-zna-y7o.

Elvis 2008
07-28-24, 03:49
Is everything OK with you, Elvis? Seriously, are you on something? You know, the way you're forming sentences is a wee bit concerning. After all, aren't you younger than Biden and even Trump?I think you meant questions not sentences, and I think it might have gotten passed your tiny little brain that I was imitating what the Secret Service Director was asking herself after going before Congress.

To recap, Trump is shot, a huge SS failure. The female head of the SS does not quit, Biden does not fire her, and this woman's boss gives her his full support. She goes before Congress and is stunned when they have it out for her and like a baby, quits the next day. She did not quit because she failed at her job. She quit because people were mean to her.

The analogy is you douches are ALL exactly like her. You are just as fucking clueless. All you douches swore Biden was going to win. You feasted on the media frenzy about Trump and all his legal issues and completely missed Biden's mental and physical state. I posted on here a hilarious Italian comedy skit with Biden falling all over himself and introducing himself to a microphone and saying, "Hi, I am Joe Kennedy. " Here it is again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApTyNOXUhSk.

Am I okay? What was your and the response of other douches like you to this? What was your response to Trump's joke routine about how clueless Biden was? It was crickets. You are so screwed in the head you thought Biden was fine. Nothing exists in your noggin unless the MSM says something is true. Then last month, the MSM covers it, and it is crisis mode.

And you are asking me if I am okay? Why are you not asking if Cane is okay when he thinks Biden can win in 2024 when he is not running? Are you okay? Why did you not say jack shit about Biden's mental condition? Are you more demented than he was? Do you know anything about Kamala outside of her having a the after her name or Willie Brown's the in her throat?

I could excuse all this if you volunteered for the Ukraine War and have PTSD. Did you finally stop being a fucking hypocrite cheering on other people being shot at and go there and fight yourself? If not, you are the same stupid patronizing, media narrative guzzling douche you always have been.

If ever there was a time for a douche like you to be eating humble pie, that time is now, but you and the rest of the douches are the same now as ever.

I would ask you who you voted for in 2020 to run the country, and if that person is running the country now, but I am sure you have not even thought about it.

SubCmdr
07-28-24, 04:21
McKinley.

JFK.

RFK.

Ford (twice).

Reagan.

4 times the shooter made a direct hit. 3 times the target victim died.

All had male Directors of the Secret Service. No mention of DEI. No mention of PC. No demands on both sides for anyone to resign.

I wonder if any one of them except Ford would have happily traded their Secret Service protection results over a grazed ear, possibly by glass shards going along for the ride rather than the bullet itself.


If you have ever did any hiring of people, you can only hire the best people that actually exist, or you can hire down and go the Frito Lays route.Tell us EXACTLY what you know about the hiring of a United States Secret Service special agent candidate and the subsequent training the occurs Federal Law Enforcement Training Center AND James J. Rowley Training Center? I will save you the trouble. You don't know a thing about it. You are just talking out the side of your neck. Because if you did you would understand they a candidate for Special Agent of the United States Secret Service must successfully pass through of the training centers. Then a 1 year on-the-job training program. At least two years of an investigative assignment before being accepted into a protective detail.

Who is going to say that the United States Secret Service agents working that day were not qualified? We have those of lesser intelligence (putting diplomatically) that will say that. But they are only showing their bigotry and ignorance as republicans.

EihTooms
07-28-24, 04:59
I had to take the man for his word. He said he wasn't getting out of the race, and I believed him. But I was smart enough to change my mind and join the growing chorus calling for him to step back since it became obvious he no longer had full command of his faculties. And he was wise enough to do the right thing for country and party. And that's precisely how he wins twice. Once by a direct challenge to Trump in a one-on-one foot race. Then by passing the baton in a second race. Again, you demonstrate your simple mindedness and inability to grasp this reality. And in this lies a perfect example of "specificity" regarding the waste of life debating with your ilk. You don't get it. You don't want to get it. Willful ignorance and mean-spirited stupidity. All I care about is doing what it takes to beat you dolts at the ballot box. Whatever it takes. Just win baby!The only faculties Biden shows signs of having less control over are his brain-to-speech motor skills. Not surprising for a stutterer and someone of his age who experienced 2 brain aneurysms decades ago. The latter factors into the stiff gait as well.

None of that clouds his thinking, comprehension and decision-making abilities, all of which are critical for the job of POTUS. But, yes, he decided it would matter to his ability to campaign more effectively. And, where he saw that mattering the most was in terms of the money / donations that would help down ballot Dems win their races. The necessary factors to practically ensure Biden would win his contest were already well baked in the cake months ago, regardless what the July / pre Repub and Dem Convention polls said. But that is not true for the important down ballot races.

No Repub in the running could have managed as lucid, well-informed and well-articulared hour long, no notes press conference on foreign policy that Biden delivered 2-3 weeks ago. Everything Trump "knows" about NATO he learned from Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orband. He is a total foreign and domestic policy numbskull. It is unimaginable that either Trump or even Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley oh he means Nancy Pelosi and now oh he means Kamala Harris manage that press conference for just 3 minutes before fleeing off the stage.

Nor could or has Trump ever managed to shift side to side reading a teleprompter with a prepared speech on it as smoothly and with as clear understanding and conveyance of every subtle nuance as Biden does to this very day. Someone suffering from senility or dementia simply can not do that. Biden can. Very well indeed. Trump falters at it much more than a little bit.

There never was nor is there to this day any reason for Biden's staff to sound an alarm about Biden's ability to continue doing his job better than any Repub in history ever has and 100 times better than Trump.

I assure everyone that just because Biden once said "Trump" instead of "Harris" after referring to each at least 10,000 times in public statements that Donald Trump was not going to become Biden's new VP on January 20,2025. LOL. Public misstatements like that do not become Executive Office policy. That isn't how it works, folks.

But campaigning for president in ways that could help his party win more House seats in 2024 is a different matter.

And Biden realized he would never overcome Mainstream Media's pro Repub agenda to help Repubs / Trump win elections wherever possible.

LOL. You will rarely if ever hear or read the report of how well Harris is doing with regard to Dem campaign donations or improved poll numbers vs Trump that does not begin with some variation of "Ever since Biden dropped out and endorsed Kamala Harris".

First of all, that intro gives MSM the chance to stick the knife in Biden and twist it one more time. And it subtly furthers the Repub talking point about it being all about how old Biden was and that Harris' "selling points" are only the superficial gender and race / ethnicity factors, as though any younger, female, mixed race candidate is the solution to getting Dem donations and improved poll numbers.

You will rarely and I might go as far as to say never read or hear MSM introducing such a report with "Immediately after that Loony, America-hating Republican National Convention with the blathering, rambling Numbskull potus candidate's grand finale speech" that also coincided with the return of Dem campaign donations and improved poll numbers for their potus candidate.

MSM simply can not bring themselves to draw attention to the latter. Ever. For their agenda, it can never be because their beloved Repubs' historic and recent results are totally fucked up with no sign of them not being worse going forward.

Biden is as perfectly aware of that reality in this election season as he is of everything else.

SubCmdr
07-28-24, 09:11
On day one I will fire Gary Gensler and appoint a new SEC chairman.

Create a US Government strategic national Bitcoin stockpile if elected.

US Government will keep 100% of Bitcoin it owns

Bitcoin is going to the moon.

Never sell your Bitcoin

Bitcoin will one day probably surpass the market cap of Gold.

I reaffirm my pledge to commute Ross Ulbricht's sentence.

There will never be a CBDC while I am President of the United States.

Bitcoin and crypto will skyrocket like never before if elected president.

Bitcoin is not threatening the dollar, the current U.S. government is threatening the dollar.

The United States will be the crypto capital of the planet and the Bitcoin superpower of the world.

Bitcoin stands for freedom, sovereignty, and independence from government coercion and control.

I pledge to the Bitcoin community that the day I take oath of Office, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris' anti-crypto crusade will be over.

@WatcherGuru

I vote my pocketbook. Crypto is a major part of my investment portfolio. So, I am looking for at least a neutral stance on crypto from the next Administration. Dems are up next on this issue.

EihTooms
07-28-24, 10:08
Where have you been for 5+ years? I mean Dementia Joe has been Babbling stupid shit for years -- How could you miss that?- did you believe the MSNBC and other scumbag media with their Usually be-S Conspearaceeeeeee. Claims-- -You finally pulled your head out of your ass? But maybe not.

Now the Scumbag media is trying to gaslight everyone about Kamala's border and her Great LOL performance over the last 4 yrs? Are you believing that Bullshit too?? Don't forget Kamala Lied like Hell about Dementia Joe's condition for years too-- Hell she was lying 2 weeks ago.

Why'all are funny with your Trump in Prison Jack -off fantasies too-- How Many times have you beat off to those over the years?

This is a Great Kamala commercial tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQI-zna-y7o.So a "brain dead" Dem has outperformed every Repub so-called president in history, passed more important bipartisan legislation, produced legislation and provided economic stewardship that has created more jobs than all three of the previous Repub so-called presidents combined as well as a sizable chunk of the 4th, actually passed serious decades' long Infrastructure and future computer chip and energy independence legislation vs zero for the previous Repub even when that Repub numbskull's numbskull Party controlled both Houses of Congress, pulled us out of the Repub War in Afghanistan in the safest, least deadly withdrawal from an occupied country by the losing side in Military History, strengthened NATO and the Western Alliance, did not start any new USA war, not only defeated Trump in the 2020 election but defeated him in Trump's New War Against America and American Democracy on American Soil by protecting and defending the Constitution of the United States of America.

And he did that and more for America in just 3 1/2 years without producing one Great Depression, Great Recession, Global Recession, wiping out millions upon millions of jobs, skyrocketing the unemployment rate into double digits, laying the groundwork for, embracing and exacerbating a deadly, global economy and supply-chain destroying and Inflation-triggering Pandemic or any other "Once in 100 Years Disaster" like the ones every Repub searches for and practically all of which Trump created.

Amazing. I'll take that any day over the most "very good brain" Repub that ever lived! LOL.

Axel Heyst
07-28-24, 15:52
On Friday RFK Jr. Said, "(W) hen I was a kid, the whole kind of central focus of the Democratic Party was making sure that every American could vote for whoever they wanted to vote for. The Democratic Party today is all about the opposite of that, about making sure that candidates who are going to run against their chosen candidate are — that the legal system, that the law enforcement agencies are used to prevent those candidates from running. They've made it almost impossible for me to get on the ballot in all the states. I am going to. In fact, we have now completed all the signatures. I think we have one state left where we have a couple hundred signatures. We've gotten over 2 million signatures, more signatures than any presidential candidate in history. We've done something nobody in history has been able to do up against these headwinds that they've created for us. They're suing us in all the states, but we're going to win the lawsuits. But it's not a good look for the Democratic Party. They're saying, well, we have to do this in order to save democracy from Donald Trump, but they're actually — the real argument is we're destroying democracy in order to save it. "

Woodman09
07-28-24, 16:35
The only faculties Biden shows signs of having less control over are his brain-to-speech motor skills. Not surprising for a stutterer and someone of his age who experienced 2 brain aneurysms decades ago. The latter factors into the stiff gait as well.

None of that clouds his thinking,(LMAO!!) comprehension and decision-making abilities,(YEP) all of which are critical for the job of POTUS. But, yes, he decided it would matter to his ability to campaign more effectively. And, where he saw that mattering the most was in terms of the money / donations that would help down ballot Dems win their races. The necessary factors to practically ensure Biden would win his contest were already well baked in the cake months ago, regardless what the July / pre Repub and Dem Convention polls said. But that is not true for the important down ballot races.

No Repub in the running could have managed as lucid, well-informed and well-articulared hour long, no notes press conference on foreign policy that Biden delivered 2-3 weeks ago. Everything Trump "knows" about NATO he learned from Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orband. He is a total foreign and domestic policy numbskull. It is unimaginable that either Trump or even Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley oh he means Nancy Pelosi and now oh he means Kamala Harris manage that press conference for just 3 minutes before fleeing off the stage.

Nor could or has Trump ever managed to shift side to side reading a teleprompter with a prepared speech on it as smoothly and with as clear understanding and conveyance of every subtle nuance as Biden does to this very day. Someone suffering from senility or dementia simply can not do that. Biden can. Very well indeed. Trump falters at it much more than a little bit...Toomers. GET Off this Page and Get Thee to Washington- You Need to Be Joe's Chief Advisor! You're Wasted here! Quick Call the DNC-- Call KamaLaaaahhhhhh. They Made a Big Mistake-- Joe Can Do It! He is soooooo. Confident-- we need Joe! So what he Shits his pants and Yells at everyone when challenged-- he is really 100% in his brain-- And of course the Economy is soooooooo. Great but everyone is gaslit and imaging it is not.

MarquisdeSade1
07-28-24, 19:39
On day one I will fire Gary Gensler and appoint a new SEC chairman.

Create a US Government strategic national Bitcoin stockpile if elected.

US Government will keep 100% of Bitcoin it owns

Bitcoin is going to the moon.

Never sell your Bitcoin

Bitcoin will one day probably surpass the market cap of Gold.

I reaffirm my pledge to commute Ross Ulbricht's sentence.

There will never be a CBDC while I am President of the United States.

Bitcoin and crypto will skyrocket like never before if elected president.

Bitcoin is not threatening the dollar, the current U.S. government is threatening the dollar.

The United States will be the crypto capital of the planet and the Bitcoin superpower of the world.

Bitcoin stands for freedom, sovereignty, and independence from government coercion and control.

I pledge to the Bitcoin community that the day I take oath of Office, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris' anti-crypto crusade will be over.

@WatcherGuru

I vote my pocketbook. Crypto is a major part of my investment portfolio. So, I am looking for at least a neutral stance on crypto from the next Administration. Dems are up next on this issue.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-3232145/Video-Secret-Service-agent-struggles-holster-weapon-Trump-shot.html

When your child gets brain cancer and has a tumor that needs to be removed I want you to go to the affirmative action candidate.

Ill go to #1 in the class instead, Google Kanye Wests mother, she wanted liposuction, so Oprah told her about some alcoholic she knew in California.

She went to him and he fucking killed her, please goto all the DEI appointees LMAO please I'm begging.

Woodman09
07-28-24, 21:02
Toomers-- I misspoke --You Should Be VP! And we just need to put Dementia Joe into a Captain Pike type chair (see photo) -.

Then in 2028 Toomers for President.

Woodman09
07-28-24, 21:05
Toomers-- I misspoke --You Should Be VP! And we just need to put Dementia Joe into a Captain Pike type chair (see photo) -- You Could Help Dementia Joe turn it all around-- Just put a binder together with all your great posts- Everyone would know the truth then!!

Then in 2028 Toomers for President -- That would be Fantastic!! Let's Go Tumour!!

MarquisdeSade1
07-28-24, 21:48
On Friday RFK Jr. Said, "(W) hen I was a kid, the whole kind of central focus of the Democratic Party was making sure that every American could vote for whoever they wanted to vote for. The Democratic Party today is all about the opposite of that, about making sure that candidates who are going to run against their chosen candidate are that the legal system, that the law enforcement agencies are used to prevent those candidates from running. They've made it almost impossible for me to get on the ballot in all the states. I am going to. In fact, we have now completed all the signatures. I think we have one state left where we have a couple hundred signatures. We've gotten over 2 million signatures, more signatures than any presidential candidate in history. We've done something nobody in history has been able to do up against these headwinds that they've created for us. They're suing us in all the states, but we're going to win the lawsuits. But it's not a good look for the Democratic Party. They're saying, well, we have to do this in order to save democracy from Donald Trump, but they're actually the real argument is we're destroying democracy in order to save it. "Bangkok Bob thinks we shouldn't rehash all the cheating, we should just let bygones be bygones.

https://jacobin.com/2020/02/bernie-sanders-iowa-caucus-democratic-presidential-primary

https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/how-the-2020-election-was-rigged/

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/26/nobody-believes-kamala-will-be-president-not-even-obama/

EihTooms
07-29-24, 02:10
On Friday RFK Jr. Said, "(W) hen I was a kid, the whole kind of central focus of the Democratic Party was making sure that every American could vote for whoever they wanted to vote for. The Democratic Party today is all about the opposite of that, about making sure that candidates who are going to run against their chosen candidate are that the legal system, that the law enforcement agencies are used to prevent those candidates from running. They've made it almost impossible for me to get on the ballot in all the states. I am going to. In fact, we have now completed all the signatures. I think we have one state left where we have a couple hundred signatures. We've gotten over 2 million signatures, more signatures than any presidential candidate in history. We've done something nobody in history has been able to do up against these headwinds that they've created for us. They're suing us in all the states, but we're going to win the lawsuits. But it's not a good look for the Democratic Party. They're saying, well, we have to do this in order to save democracy from Donald Trump, but they're actually the real argument is we're destroying democracy in order to save it. "So Loony conspiracy theorist RFK Jr is hand-wringing worried about the Democratic Party denying someone their right to vote or have their vote counted, is he?

To recap:

Florida Republican officials stood by and ignored the blatant Voting Rights Act violations that denied disproportionately high numbers of likely Democratic voters from voting, thereby STEALING the 2000 election for Repub G. W. Bush:

U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.
Voting Irregularities in Florida During the 2000 Presidential Election.

https://www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/vote2000/report/exesum.htm

Republican so-called president Donald J. Trump was convicted in a court of law 34 times for conspiracy to commit Election Fraud in a scheme to improperly influence (STEAL) the 2016 presidential election:

Trump is found guilty on 34 felony counts. Read the counts here.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts#text=Jurors%20 in%20 the%20 New%20 York, counts%20 of%20 falsified%20 business%20 records.

Republican so-called president Donald J. Trump incited a violent mob of Insurrectionists to storm the Capitol in an attempt to overturn a free and fair election and assassinate his VP for failing to violate his Oath of Office and join him in breaking Constitutional law to STEAL the 2020 election:

Trump incited Jan. 6 attack after 'unhinged' White House meeting, panel told.
July 13, 2022

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-capitol-riot-probe-turns-focus-trump-allies-extremist-groups-2022-07-12/

U.S. Congress.
The Republicans who voted to overturn the election.
Reuters asked the 147 lawmakers who voted to overturn the U.S. election if they believed Donald Trump lost the presidency because of election fraud. Most dodged the question.

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-TRUMP/LAWMAKERS/xegpbedzdvq/

Wrong Way RFK has obviously been updated on the latest Trump / Republican Party Election THIEVES' campaign talking points in those secret phone calls with Donny-boy. You know, the usual Republican projection claims that turn out to be Trump / Republican confessions and admissions rather than substantiated accusations.

Elvis 2008
07-29-24, 02:11
Toomers. GET Off this Page and Get Thee to Washington- You Need to Be Joe's Chief Advisor! You're Wasted here! Quick Call the DNC-- Call KamaLaaaahhhhhh. They Made a Big Mistake-- Joe Can Do It! He is soooooo. Confident-- we need Joe! So what he Shits his pants and Yells at everyone when challenged-- he is really 100% in his brain-- And of course the Economy is soooooooo. Great but everyone is gaslit and imaging it is not.The reason I call them Democratic douches is all they do is suck in the mainstream media narratives and think intelligence is regurgitating them.

Tooms may be the worse douche in the sense that anytime the MSM says anything bad about a Democrat, no matter how true it is, he puts them down and calls them Republican or a bothsider.

Zero hedge had an article where someone in the comments section said Kamala had a rally and like 68 people showed up, so yeah, she may be better than Biden in the polls but that is if Democrats get out and vote for her, and they do not seem to be very interested in doing so.

And with Trump, the MSM does it all can to take the worst of his sound bites. Nowhere did you see did the MSM show Trump's comedy routine about how Biden does not know how to get off stage. In the debate, they handled that problem by surrounding him with three people.

You got these douches predicting that Harris is going to win. Outside of saying Trump sucks, they have nothing.

And then you see Trump do his thing here: https://modernity.news/2024/07/27/trump-biden-was-ousted-in-a-fascist-coup/.

The transcript is good, but the video is better. He destroys the Democrats and Harris in less than 45 seconds and had me laughing when he was doing so.

And of all the stupid shit to be concerned, we hear this crap about her name. Yes, that is what Kamala cares most about. She has had three years as VP to make sure people said her name right but now that she is a REAL presidential candidate, she is going to make sure we get her name right. How fucking stupid is that?

We got people loaded with credit card debt at an time high, immigrants illegally pouring in, young adults cannot afford housing, and the first thing this witch cares about how her name is pronounced? Shit, the Dems should be bring back Biden. At least he could blame his stupidity on his age.

EihTooms
07-29-24, 03:51
Toomers. GET Off this Page and Get Thee to Washington- You Need to Be Joe's Chief Advisor! You're Wasted here! Quick Call the DNC-- Call KamaLaaaahhhhhh. They Made a Big Mistake-- Joe Can Do It! He is soooooo. Confident-- we need Joe! So what he Shits his pants and Yells at everyone when challenged-- he is really 100% in his brain-- And of course the Economy is soooooooo. Great but everyone is gaslit and imaging it is not.So now a "brain dead" Dem who "Shits his pants and Yells at everyone when challenged" not only ties in a Toss-Up the Convicted Felon Repub Candidate who claims to have been handed and then destroyed, oh I mean lied that he created the Greatest Economy Ever on most issues, but actually BEAT him this very month among Americans Who Are Completely Certain They Will Vote who admit their #1 concern is, drum roll please, The Economy! And their #2 conern is Trump's Pandemic Inflation.

Latest U.S. opinion polls
These are the latest results of U.S. opinion polls on voting intention, economic attitudes, consumer behavior and more.
July 2, 2024

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/latest-us-opinion-polls

Mind you, this was after the Presidential Debate Quiz Show but before the Repub / Trump America Sucks Festival of America-Hating Lies Convention culminating with the most incoherent, blithering, rambling pack of Relub Lies yet by their Repub candidate.

Please continue to remind us of the many shitty attributes and even shittier actual results of your boy Donny's term as so-called president such that a "brain dead pants shitting vegetable" like Joe Biden out performed him on every important factor and was still well positioned by current +/-MoE polling and 164 years of detailed historical precedent to easily win a 2nd Term. LOL.

Xpartan
07-29-24, 05:29
I think you meant questions not sentences, and I think it might have gotten passed your tiny little brain that I was imitating what the Secret Service Director was asking herself after going before Congress.A question, of course, is a sentence too, but not knowing that is the least of your problems. My concern was that, unfortunately, you're writing the same way a 5-year old is talking. That might be quite normal for Trump's cult members, but still not the norm (yet!) for general population.

And one more thing. You might feel that being incessantly wordy without actually saying anything is a form of art, but it isn't. By reducing your quote to one short paragraph, I captured everything you wanted to say in your "essay": Your misunderstanding of syntax rules, followed by your cheap shot at my mental acuity, followed by your brief explanation of what you'd actually meant in your previous post.

You're welcome!

EihTooms
07-29-24, 15:38
The reason I call them Democratic douches is all they do is suck in the mainstream media narratives and think intelligence is regurgitating them.

Tooms may be the worse douche in the sense that anytime the MSM says anything bad about a Democrat, no matter how true it is, he puts them down and calls them Republican or a bothsider.

Zero hedge had an article where someone in the comments section said Kamala had a rally and like 68 people showed up, so yeah, she may be better than Biden in the polls but that is if Democrats get out and vote for her, and they do not seem to be very interested in doing so..Elvis, you have mentioned this multiple times so I have to ask; is Repub Donald Trump's derision and mockery of President Joe Biden the extent of his economic and national security plans for his 2nd horrible term?

Does he mention anything specific of, oh you know, substance at these derisive mockery "comedy" rallies you wish Mainstreeam Media would feature on their news programs?

LOL. Of course, it is hilarious that you don't realize how helpful to his chances of winning it has been that typically pro Repub Mainstream Media don't feature that crap.

I wholeheartedly wish MSM had been running every Trump rally in its entirety for the past 9 years. And with plenty of pan shots of his cult followers in the audience. Whoo boy! If they had, I seriously doubt he would have gotten more votes than the number of loons who attend his rallies.

BTW, does Trump at least admit at his rallies that his specific economic plans for a 2nd term would jack up Inflation higher and longer than his Trump's Pandemic did?

Economists Say Inflation Would Be Worse Under Trump Than Biden.
In a Wall Street Journal survey, economists see Trumps plans to raise tariffs and crack down on illegal immigration as putting upward pressure on prices.

https://www.wsj.com/economy/economists-say-inflation-would-be-worse-under-trump-than-biden-263bc900

A second Trump term could actually make inflation worse.

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/4681945-the-potential-inflationary-impact-of-a-second-trump-term/

Trump 2.0 could be bad news for global inflation, analysts say.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/16/trump-2point0-could-be-bad-news-for-global-inflation-analysts-say.html#text=A%20 second%20 presidential%20 term%20 for, across%20 the%20 world%2 see%20 analysts%20 warned. ?source=androidappshare.


A second presidential term for former President Donald Trump could reignite global inflation as his America-first policies drive up costs across the world, analysts warned.

The high tariff, low tax economic agenda, which defined Trumps first term would prove even more damaging this time around, they said, as the inflation mindset remains pervasive.

Compared to 2016, when inflation had been low forever and inflation expectations were low ... 2024, 2025 is going to be very different, Michael Metcalfe told CNBC.In a Trump win, economists see revived inflation and a more wary Fed.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/trump-win-economists-see-revived-inflation-more-wary-fed-2024-07-25/

Trump's policies in a second term would be 'substantially inflationary,' Larry Summers says.

https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20240605772/trumps-policies-in-a-second-term-would-be-substantially-inflationary-larry-summers-says

I assume that critical and substantive info isn't part of Trump's derision and mockery "comedy" at his rallies, right?

Paulie97
07-29-24, 20:19
Elvis challenges. He forces you to think. Every nook and cranny he forces you to support you point of view. Annoying maybe, but that isn't a bad thing.

Elvis 2008
07-29-24, 21:56
Elvis, you have mentioned this multiple times so I have to ask; is Repub Donald Trump's derision and mockery of President Joe Biden the extent of his economic and national security plans for his 2nd horrible term?

Does he mention anything specific of, oh you know, substance at these derisive mockery "comedy" rallies you wish Mainstreeam Media would feature on their news programs?Obviously, you have not watched it or you would be afraid of it. The comedy routine is about winning the election not governing and if you saw it and the reaction to it, you would be worried about that more than the polls you are following daily. You and the entire MSM ignored the Italian comedy sketch until the debate and your lies fell on deaf ears then. "It was one bad night". Yeah, then how come the Italians had Biden pegged dead to rights in their skit months before?

And let's do the but Trump thing you douches do so often. Where is the Harris economic plan? All I see is instructions on how to pronounce her name and covering up her role as border czar.

If you were not so Biden good and Trump bad and had an objective cell in your body, you would see that Trump and Biden were very similar in their policies. Both were big spenders and big into tariffs. The big difference was Biden did a stimulus when it was not needed and has thrown huge money at this carbon neutral green energy crap. He has also loaded up expenses with those flocking in over the border and thrown money at pointless wars. But in reality, I think their economic plans were much the same, borrow and spend.

Trump wants to reduce inflation with drill, baby, drill. Energy prices affect so much of inflation that if he succeeds in lowering oil prices, that would be the painless way to tame it. It is easy. Trump also was going through and tossing two regulations for every new one put in. But I am not sure that gets us where we need to be.

Of all the stupid things Biden said, and Lord knows there were a lot, was that government spending does not cause inflation. It does. Unlike Reagan, Trump has not ruffled feathers with talks of government cuts but I suspect he is planning them. One huge move he could make and has hinted at is to end the Ukraine war. He could do that by the USA pulling out of NATO and the huge cost savings associated with doing so. That freaks out all the deep state douches which think NATO is the reason for peace in Europe. It is not.

And then you start pulling out all the unnecessary military bases around the world and quit paying for being the world's cop. That is what it means to be America first. Like China, you trade but do not dominate in a military faction. If you did not notice, Trump was pretty anti-war. Biden tries to brag that no American solider died but American weapons have been killing thousands if not millions.

You cut the deficit down by cutting much of the stupid defense spending, tame inflation with lower oil prices, and then the Fed can look at lowering interest rates which are killing the economy. The only other path to lower interest rates is recession, and some economists say we are there now.

The reason we are in an economic pickle is we did not pay the piper for Covid. Hell, you douches still think all the restrictions were a good idea and in your mind, Fauci, the Chinese, the neonazi CDC, and all the Democratic governors had no role in destroying our economy over the Covid debacle. It was all Trump.

And you see how I said how similar Biden and Trump's economic policies were Tooms? You cannot do that because you do not have one speck of objectivity. With you, it is Biden good, Trump bad when they both were doing the same damned thing.

Yeah, borrow and spend has to stop and cutting costs has to start and cutting spending means sacrifice and is painful. When Reagan did it, the press had a nonstop * fest.

SubCmdr
07-30-24, 01:52
Sorry, I do not understand this post in relationship to mine. It is totally incoherent and has nothing to do with the subject of the quoted response. Unless you are having reading comprehension problems and somehow think crypto has anything to do with protection of a presidential candidate.

I'll just ignore you as I usually do until you have something intelligent to say in this particular thread.

How you like me now?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-3232145/Video-Secret-Service-agent-sRtruggles-holster-weapon-Trump-shot.html

When your child gets brain cancer and has a tumor that needs to be removed I want you to go to the affirmative action candidate.

Ill go to #1 in the class instead, Google Kanye Wests mother, she wanted liposuction, so Oprah told her about some alcoholic she knew in California.

She went to him and he fucking killed her, please goto all the DEI appointees LMAO please I'm begging.

MarquisdeSade1
07-30-24, 03:05
I can't believe it. I agreed with everything Carville said. That is a first! Good link, MDS.Then you'll love it when pro Trump PACs start running spots explaining how the last thing we need in the "White House" is an anchor baby.

https://www.wired.com/story/far-right-attack-kamala-harris/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP_YwwwIScU&t=383s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM&t=161s

the Oligarchs knifed Scumbag Joe in the back and he is going to burn it all down on his way out

Allahu Akbar!!!

Xpartan
07-30-24, 04:10
Elvis challenges. He forces you to think. Every nook and cranny he forces you to support you point of view. Annoying maybe, but that isn't a bad thing.Did you say it in jest, LOL?

Huacho
07-30-24, 04:37
tame inflation with lower oil pricesYep, just snap your fingers and lower oil prices and bang, inflation goes down. You are a true genius.

Elvis 2008
07-30-24, 05:32
A question, of course, is a sentence too, but not knowing that is the least of your problems. My concern was that, unfortunately, you're writing the same way a 5-year old is talking. That might be quite normal for Trump's cult members, but still not the norm (yet!) for general population.

And one more thing. You might feel that being incessantly wordy without actually saying anything is a form of art, but it isn't. By reducing your quote to one short paragraph, I captured everything you wanted to say in your "essay": Your misunderstanding of syntax rules, followed by your cheap shot at my mental acuity, followed by your brief explanation of what you'd actually meant in your previous post.

You're welcome!Come on man! This is the same obnoxious attack Xpartan has been waging against me for years, and you are censoring my response. Then I got another poster PMing me saying you are a leftie who is biased as hell. This is politics. We argue. We debate. We call each other stupid. The goal is winning the point and that may mean being obnoxious when you win.

When someone makes an obnoxious post towards me, and you just let it sit and censor counterattack, you may as well as just give that poster a thumb's up. What the hell is going on? Who was the old moderator and how do we get him back? Can you stop with this stupid censoring bullshit?

EihTooms
07-30-24, 06:34
Obviously, you have not watched it or you would be afraid of it. The comedy routine is about winning the election not governing and if you saw it and the reaction to it, you would be worried about that more than the polls you are following daily. You and the entire MSM ignored the Italian comedy sketch until the debate and your lies fell on deaf ears then. "It was one bad night". Yeah, then how come the Italians had Biden pegged dead to rights in their skit months before?

And let's do the but Trump thing you douches do so often. Where is the Harris economic plan? All I see is instructions on how to pronounce her name and covering up her role as border czar.

If you were not so Biden good and Trump bad and had an objective cell in your body, you would see that Trump and Biden were very similar in their policies. Both were big spenders and big into tariffs. The big difference was Biden did a stimulus when it was not needed and has thrown huge money at this carbon neutral green energy crap. He has also loaded up expenses with those flocking in over the border and thrown money at pointless wars. But in reality, I think their economic plans were much the same, borrow and spend.

Trump wants to reduce inflation with drill, baby, drill. Energy prices affect so much of inflation that if he succeeds in lowering oil prices, that would be the painless way to tame it. It is easy. Trump also was going through and tossing two regulations for every new one put in. But I am not sure that gets us where we need to be.

Of all the stupid things Biden said, and Lord knows there were a lot, was that government spending does not cause inflation. It does. Unlike Reagan, Trump has not ruffled feathers with talks of government cuts but I suspect he is planning them. One huge move he could make and has hinted at is to end the Ukraine war. He could do that by the USA pulling out of NATO and the huge cost savings associated with doing so. That freaks out all the deep state douches which think NATO is the reason for peace in Europe. It is not.

And then you start pulling out all the unnecessary military bases around the world and quit paying for being the world's cop. That is what it means to be America first. Like China, you trade but do not dominate in a military faction. If you did not notice, Trump was pretty anti-war. Biden tries to brag that no American solider died but American weapons have been killing thousands if not millions.

You cut the deficit down by cutting much of the stupid defense spending, tame inflation with lower oil prices, and then the Fed can look at lowering interest rates which are killing the economy. The only other path to lower interest rates is recession, and some economists say we are there now.

The reason we are in an economic pickle is we did not pay the piper for Covid. Hell, you douches still think all the restrictions were a good idea and in your mind, Fauci, the Chinese, the neonazi CDC, and all the Democratic governors had no role in destroying our economy over the Covid debacle. It was all Trump.

And you see how I said how similar Biden and Trump's economic policies were Tooms? You cannot do that because you do not have one speck of objectivity. With you, it is Biden good, Trump bad when they both were doing the same damned thing.

Yeah, borrow and spend has to stop and cutting costs has to start and cutting spending means sacrifice and is painful. When Reagan did it, the press had a nonstop * fest.Everybody hears "bothsides" say they love America and want it to succeed. What else are they supposed to say? Although the Trumpist Version of the Repub Party comes pretty damn close to literally saying, "America Sucks"! Probably to impress their Russian campaign benefactors. And probably because they really feel that way as well.

However, there is still only one Party whose policies and stewardship has produced and presided over every Great Depression, Great Recession, Massive Jobs Destruction and NONE of the historic Job Gains, Economic Recoveries, and Economic Expansions of the past 100 years. That would be the Repub Party. And there is no greater Repub Party poster boy for those typical Repub Party results than Donald J. Trump and his one term results.

By stark contrast, only one Party's policies and stewardship has produced every historic Jobs Gains, Economic Recovery and Expansion and NONE of the Great Depressions, Great Recessions and Massive Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years. That would be the Dem Party. And there is no better poster boy for those typical Dem Party results than Joe Biden.

That does not happen because each Party or each Party's President "does the same thing. " Sorry. The critical differences in each might be too subtle and nuanced for any dumb hillbilly Repub / Trump supporter to grasp. But I assure you they are there.

Meanwhile, if you are trying to sell the BS that each Party has this on its agenda for now and the next 4-8 years, good luck with that:

Spidy
07-30-24, 08:31
LOL. Spidy, the reason I call you all Democratic douches is because you all just inhale the government narrative. The worst was with Covid. Hell, you guys still are so dumb to believe Covid was not made in a lab, masks work, social distancing was based on science, and the vaccines worked. ... One of the funniest things, I enjoyed during the pandemic, was watching Trump rage against an invisible enemy, in COVID-19...kkkk! And watching Elvis 2008, take up the mantel, and rage against the same invisible conspiratorial COVID, just gets funnier by the minute.


...And today of all days was the worst day to bring up female leadership. The female director of the SS was getting grilled by all races and sexes of Congressmen. As a former SS agent said, DEI with the SS means DIE.

In fact, it is the most sexist thing in the world to say women prefer female leaders when they don't or say women are pro-abortion when a lot are not, but that is part of being a Soy Boy isn't it? Saying you respect women so much when you do not even fucking listen to them.


...Tooms was right about the market, and I was wrong. I fessed up to it, but you two act like women and try to deflect it, and that is why you two are soy boys. Like pathetic women, you two cannot admit you were wrong. ...

For somebody who loves all things COVID-19, how did the fact that women leaders in the one of the worst crisis, the planet has seen in generations, were the best, most effective leaders and outperformed men by a wide margin?

As the ISG resident conspiratorial INCEL, misogynist and self-appointed COVID-19 expert, one would think, it must really burn you to your core to have already known or to now have been presented with the stark reality that during the COVID-19 pandemic, the leadership of women prevailed with better leadership, stewardship and less lives lost in their respective countries, than that of their male counterparts.

Women Leaders During Crisis: What the Coronavirus Pandemic Has Shown Us About Effective Leadership

"The coronavirus pandemic has revealed the best and worst of todays global leaders. During the first year of the COVID-19 pandemic, the United States and other powerful male-led countries had the highest infection rates and death tolls. But other powerful and rich countries that are led by women, such as New Zealand, Germany, and Taiwan contained the spread of the virus. This suggests that during crisis, women can be more effective leaders than men. This article examines ways in which women have effectively managed the pandemic in their country or field, the benefits of diverse leadership, and corresponding COVID-19 data. ..."

"The COVID-19 pandemic has shown that women can be more effective leaders than men. ..."

https://www.forbes5.pitt.edu/article/women-leaders-during-crisis-what-coronavirus-pandemic-has-shown-us-about-effective
As the "so called COVID-19 expert", how could it be, that women leaders during a worldwide pandemic crisis, performed better than the men?

How did that fun fact, elude our resident ISG conspiratorial and lover of all things COVID-19?

PS: 1. No wonder Trump lost in 2020, as the worst leader on the planet to manage COVID-19, with over a 1/2 million deaths. But fear not, a woman will soon be the next US leader, to govern Americans through a crisis!

2. Chicken-shit Trump won't debate Veep Harris, a women? If Trump is so great...why the chicken-shit coward won't debate a woman?...kkkk!

SubCmdr
07-30-24, 13:36
CBPs ability to search travelers phones has received increased scrutiny in recent months. In April, a bipartisan group of senators sent a letter to Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas asking for information on what data the government retains from these searches and how the data is used. "We are concerned that the current policies and practices governing the search of electronic devices at the border constitute a departure from the intended scope and application of border search authority", Sens. Gary Peters (D-MI), Rand Paul (R-KY), Ron Wyden (D-OR), and Mike Crapo (R-ID) wrote.

Even if either party tries to stack the court. I count on the independent nature of the judicial branch will keep those mother fuckers in the executive and congress in check!


Your worries are over. This is one hour old. Just came across my desk.

"Customs agents need a warrant to search your phone now / A federal judge ruled that warrantless phone searches at ports of entry violate the Fourth Amendment. ".

https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/29/24209130/customs-border-protection-unlock-phone-warrant-new-york-jfk

Elvis 2008
07-30-24, 15:36
Yep, just snap your fingers and lower oil prices and bang, inflation goes down. You are a true genius.Typical dumb ass douche response. Trump says drill baby drill, and I explain how that might work, and you attack me. Are you so fucking stupid that you have to attack the person as opposed to the idea?

In the mean time, the Biden energy plan was to get in a proxy war with Russia which produces huge amounts of oil, drain the SPR, antagonize American oil companies, suck up to Iran and Venezuela, being told to go fuck yourself by Saudi Arabia, and then throw hundreds of billions down the green energy rabbit hole. To call this a plan is a joke. It is a reactionary, contradictory response that is sucking up to lobbyists and is beyond stupid. What saved us was American oil companies basically deciding Biden was full of hot air and producing oil despite him.

And who said anything about snapping your fingers? I know how capital and time intensive oil production is. Oh, you just were being a douche and made that up. All those drugs you are snorting Huacho is affecting your brain. Another two years and Biden is going to sound coherent next to you.

Elvis 2008
07-30-24, 15:57
One of the funniest things, I enjoyed during the pandemic, was watching Trump rage against an invisible enemy, in COVID-19...kkkk! And watching Elvis 2008, take up the mantel, and rage against the same invisible conspiratorial COVID, just gets funnier by the minute.Rage? LOL. 2021 was the most fun year I ever had in my life. Empty airplanes. Dirt cheap resorts. Empty amusement parks. I met my woman that year, and before that, I had epic trips enjoying the most beautiful women put on the market because suddenly they did not have to work, and I posted it in live time. Meanwhile, we had Huacho who just posted here admitting that he locked himself up for years. I raged against the government trying to keep me down while you Democratic douche sheep hibernated in your basement for 2 years. Like I said, you are so stupid you still cannot admit the government was wrong about Covid.

And Soy Boy, giving women what they want versus what they need is what simps do. You pander to women. You tell them it is okay to kill their kids. My gal got pregnant young in her life and being a real Catholic had her child. So instead of being out drinking and partying, she was a mom and a damned good one, and her daughter is pretty, fun, charming, hard working, and smart.

And this is what gets me about you and your stupid "reproductive rights", everyone wants that child. Not only are their people lined up for adoptions, they are all kind of family members looking to move in. I had to pay thousands in legal fees because the parents of the loser father wanted to take the kid.

You talk about "reproductive rights"? What about maternal and paternal rights? It is no wonder why mothers are aborting kids right and left. They do not want douches like you trying to steal their kids or tell their sons it is okay if you want to be a woman and allow their dicks to be cut off.

RamDavidson84
07-30-24, 19:22
Rage? LOL. 2021 was the most fun year I ever had in my life. Empty airplanes. Dirt cheap resorts. Empty amusement parks. I met my woman that year, and before that, I had epic trips enjoying the most beautiful women put on the market because suddenly they did not have to work, and I posted it in live time. Meanwhile, we had Huacho who just posted here admitting that he locked himself up for years. I raged against the government trying to keep me down while you Democratic douche sheep hibernated in your basement for 2 years. Like I said, you are so stupid you still cannot admit the government was wrong about Covid.

And Soy Boy, giving women what they want versus what they need is what simps do. You pander to women. You tell them it is okay to kill their kids. My gal got pregnant young in her life and being a real Catholic had her child. So instead of being out drinking and partying, she was a mom and a damned good one, and her daughter is pretty, fun, charming, hard working, and smart.

And this is what gets me about you and your stupid "reproductive rights", everyone wants that child. Not only are their people lined up for adoptions, they are all kind of family members looking to move in. I had to pay thousands in legal fees because the parents of the loser father wanted to take the kid.

You talk about "reproductive rights"? What about maternal and paternal rights? It is no wonder why mothers are aborting kids right and left. They do not want douches like you trying to steal their kids or tell their sons it is okay if you want to be a woman and allow their dicks to be cut off.Its crazy how fast people forget about how wrong Democrats were about Covid and how horrible it was when they locked whole countries down for no reason after they knew the virus was not nearly as dangerous as they had thought and far more contagious and the lockdowns wouldn't prevent the spread anyway. Also pushing the vaccine knowing it was causing blood clots and heart issues and wasn't anywhere near 90% effective. I personally know more people who died of the vaccine from clots than died from the virus. I lied, I know 2 people who died from virus and 2 who died from clots. The ones who died from clots were young healthy guys in their 20's too. Disclaimer, I can't prove it was 100% the vaccine that killed them, but it's just so suspect, I feel strongly it was.

So many people on this board shaming members as killers if they didn't get the vaccine and now we all know it was total bullshit. So much weird stuff around Covid, it really makes you wonder if it wasn't released on purpose by China as a Threat to USA and world to play ball with them. At the very least I feel it was definitely an accidental leak from a lab in Wuhan that just happens to be a Corona virus research facility funded by Fauci. Could all those things a coincidence? I guess they could, but it really makes you think twice about all this.

The inflation caused by the shutdown will take over a decade to even out. I am still feeling that inflation. Crushed the working and lower class in USA.

Paulie97
07-31-24, 00:52
Did you say it in jest, LOL?I usually disagree with him, but his perspective is very common out there. If you want to hone your skills with responding to it then keep hanging around. It all comes down to how you want to use your time, as all of us only have so many ticks on the clock left.

EihTooms
07-31-24, 01:46
Earlier this month:

Biden Narrows Gap With Trump in Swing States Despite Debate Loss.
The incumbent trails his GOP rival by just 2 points across key states, a Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll shows, even as three in 10 Democrats say he should leave the race.
July 6, 2024

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-07-06/biden-narrows-trump-s-election-lead-in-key-states-after-debate-poll

Today:

Kamala Harris Wipes Out Trumps Swing-State Lead in Election Dead Heat.
The vice president is polling better than Biden was before he dropped out, according to the latest Bloomberg News/Morning Consult survey.
July 31, 2024

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-07-30/kamala-harris-erases-trump-s-swing-state-lead-in-2024-election-poll

Again, not to take anything away from Harris. She is a fine Dem candidate / nominee.

However, despite typically pro Repub Mainstream Media's insistence on sticking a knife into Trump's previous long time Dem opponent and twisting it whenever possible and their refusal to mention another inconvenient truth about the timing of this latest surge in young voter registration (not necessarily Dem, of course), Dem campaign donations and ongoing improved poll numbers for the Dem candidate, the true and inarguable fact is all those things happened immediately after the conclusion of the Republican National Convention of America-hating Horror Movie Stars, the introduction of a new Repub Weirdo VP, all culminating in the most incoherent blather of an acceptance speech by the World's Most Pathetically Obvious Con Man and Now Multiple Felon.

As predicted. Well, by me, at least.

With more seriously bad news for Trump / Repubs to come that, like the above, was going to happen whether Biden or Harris or any other Dem was the candidate:

- The Democratic National Convrntion.

- Trump's sentencing for his conviction in a court of law on 34 Felony Counts of Conspiracy to Commit Election Fraud in a scheme to improperly influence (STEAL) the 2016 presidential election.

- The 2nd debate, Trump vs any Dem really, but great that it will be vs Harris.

Or.

- Trump hiding in the last stall of the basement Men's Room while the Dem sits for a 90 minute one-on-one tv interview about what a fuck up Trump was in his previous stint as so-called potus, how much better the results were under Biden-Harris and how much better it will continue to be starting January 20 under the next Dem Administration.

Even Abigail Disney could not have ignored this trend and likely would have buckled sometime in the last week.

Axel Heyst
07-31-24, 02:59
Rage? LOL. 2021 was the most fun year I ever had in my life. Empty airplanes. Dirt cheap resorts. Empty amusement parks. I met my woman that year, and before that, I had epic trips enjoying the most beautiful women <SNIP> Meanwhile, we had Huacho who just posted here admitting that he locked himself up for years. I raged against the government trying to keep me down while you Democratic douche sheep hibernated in your basement for 2 years. .Hey Elvis, 2021 was a surreal and unique year. I remember it well after suffering through fucking 2020 and being locked out of SE Asia. So, when 2021 finally rolled around and Asia was still closed, I was determined not to let another year go down the toilet and go to waste. I remember driving 30 miles from my home to get the required BS vaccine and then I flew to Brazil for the 1st time. Thank you, President Bolsonaro. You are one of THE GOOD GUYS and I personally know a number of beautiful Brazilian girls who voted for you.

I won't bore you with repeat retellings of my two EPIC 2021 trips. But both trips were amazing and my reports that I posted at the time are in the appropriate threads if anyone cares to take a look. The 1st plane I took down to RJ was around 85% filled, but relatively inexpensive. 5-star & 6-star hotels WERE near empty, very inexpensive, with free hotel room upgrades the rule. Everything was inexpensive, and most importantly, Brazilian girls of the highest quality were super friendly, genuinely happy to meet me, super turned on, AND once again, let me stress this: very inexpensive compared to 2024 prices. It is a case study in Supply & Demand.

MEANWHILE, in USA 2021, people living in cities and states under left wing control lost their freedoms, jobs, and businesses in a politically manufactured tyranny. I was and am fortunate to live in the free state of Florida as opposed to those blue state nightmares run by Democrat Fascists and Idiots. The left loves to smear Governor Ron DeSantis because he is a successful Republican governor and the people of Florida like him. People living in Woke shit can only wish they had a governor as capable as he is. As a matter of fact, record number of Americans are moving out of these shit holes to states like Florida. The left doesn't care. Their disgusting plan is to replace Americans with illegal aliens, give the illegals government subsidies, and then harvest their votes. I call it what it is: treason!

Viva Trump!

EihTooms
07-31-24, 04:32
Its crazy how fast people forget about how wrong Democrats were about Covid and how horrible it was when they locked whole countries down for no reason after they knew the virus was not nearly as dangerous as they had thought and far more contagious and the lockdowns wouldn't prevent the spread anyway. Also pushing the vaccine knowing it was causing blood clots and heart issues and wasn't anywhere near 90% effective. I personally know more people who died of the vaccine from clots than died from the virus. I lied, I know 2 people who died from virus and 2 who died from clots. The ones who died from clots were young healthy guys in their 20's too. Disclaimer, I can't prove it was 100% the vaccine that killed them, but it's just so suspect, I feel strongly it was.

So many people on this board shaming members as killers if they didn't get the vaccine and now we all know it was total bullshit. So much weird stuff around Covid, it really makes you wonder if it wasn't released on purpose by China as a Threat to USA and world to play ball with them. At the very least I feel it was definitely an accidental leak from a lab in Wuhan that just happens to be a Corona virus research facility funded by Fauci. Could all those things a coincidence? I guess they could, but it really makes you think twice about all this.

The inflation caused by the shutdown will take over a decade to even out. I am still feeling that inflation. Crushed the working and lower class in USA.I see Revisionist History like this is cropping up again.

A gentle reminder:

Trump administration cut pandemic early warning program in September (2019).
Predict project wound down three months before outbreak.
Project had identified 160 potentially dangerous coronaviruses.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/trump-scrapped-pandemic-early-warning-program-system-before-coronavirus


The Trump administration decided to end a $200m early warning program designed to alert it to potential pandemics just three months before it is believed Covid-19 began infecting people in China.Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-virus-outbreak-barack-obama-public-health-ce014d94b64e98b7203b873e56f80e9a


WASHINGTON (AP) Public health and national security experts shake their heads when President Donald Trump says the coronavirus came out of nowhere and blindsided the world.

Theyve been warning about the next pandemic for years and criticized the Trump administrations decision in 2018 to dismantle a National Security Council directorate at the White House charged with preparing for when, not if, another pandemic would hit the nation.Bob Woodward Was Stunned By What Trump Told Young Son Barron About Coronavirus.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bob-woodward-stunned-trump-told-091902598.html


Trump: "It came out of China. And it shouldve been stopped. And to be honest with you, Barron, they shouldve let it be known it was a problem two months earlier ... the world wouldnt have a problem. We could have stopped it easily".Government response updates: Trump issues stricter guidelines to stop virus spread
As the president spoke, the Dow closed down almost 3,000 points.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-grapples-coronavirus-guidelines-markets-plummet/story?id=69620218


President Donald Trump and his coronavirus task force on Monday issued new, stricter guidelines to stop the spread of the disease, including that states with evidence of community transmission should close bars, restaurants and other indoor and outdoor venues where groups of people congregate.
The new nationwide guidelines also call on Americans to avoid gatherings of more than 10 people; avoid eating and drinking in bars, restaurants, and public food courts; and encouraging schooling from home across the country.'This is a very bad one': Trump issues new guidelines to stem coronavirus spread.
The president recommended avoiding gatherings of more than 10 people and also urged Americans to avoid eating and drinking at bars and restaurants.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-more-than-10-people-132323


President Donald Trump on Monday acknowledged the gravity of the coronavirus pandemic, releasing strict new guidelines to limit peoples interactions in an increasingly urgent bid to slow the virus in the next two weeks before U.S. hospitals are overwhelmed.

"We have an invisible enemy, the president said at a news conference, where he released guidelines that called for people to avoid gathering in groups of more than 10 people, steer clear of eating and drinking at bars, restaurants and food courts, and work or attend school from home whenever possible. This is a bad one. This is a very bad one".Yep, everything that "Loony, lefty, lib Democrat" Donald J. Trump did and said with regard to his Trump's Pandemic clearly supports the unavoidable and inarguable conclusion that:

No Trump as so-called potus = No Removal of That Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention Team from those Chinese labs and Cuts in the Response System.

No Removal of that Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention Team from those Chinese labs and Cuts in the Response System = Trump's Pandemic's earliest cases could have been alerted to responsible parties "2 months sooner" and No Trump's Pandemic. "Easily. " According to Trump himself.

No Trump's Pandemic = No 1 Million American Deaths, No USA Business and School Closures, No Millions and Millions of Jobs Wiped Out, No Global Supply-Chain Destruction, No Inflation.

See? You guys should have voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and worked hard to convince everyone you know to do the same.

Spidy
07-31-24, 07:57
You talk about "reproductive rights"? What about maternal and paternal rights? It is no wonder why mothers are aborting kids right and left. They do not want douches like you trying to steal their kids or tell their sons it is okay if you want to be a woman and allow their dicks to be cut off.

Yeah, what about 'em? Why don't you state your case, and "mansplain it", like a good INCEL, He-man woman-hater misogynist?

Oh, BTW, would those be the same "maternal and paternal rights", you Repubs, were trying to endorse, with Herschel Walker?

Can't wait until Veep Harris beats Trump at the ballot-box, to see what crazy insurrection, you Repubs come up with this time and claim you've won an election, where Dems carry the poplar vote by more than 7+ million. Chicken-shit Trump, won't even debate Veep Harris, talk about dickless! (...Well according to Stormy Daniels).

Numskull Trump is already saying, he doesn't need the votes (...kkkk!). Not sure what that means or how he expects to win without votes. But I'll leave that up to you QAnon/MAGA conspiracists!

PS: Better get use to a women as you leader, it'll sure bring down your blood pressure or NOT! (...kkkk!)

EihTooms
07-31-24, 11:52
Based on at least 3 recent polls that the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site factored into their Consensus, Michigan has now been moved from the Repub / Trump / Vance side to the Dem / Harris side on their No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college

One down. 2 to go. Plenty of time.

Next up:

- Harris chooses a perfectly competent and fit for office non weirdo VP candidate.

- The normal and pro America, pro democracy, pro business, pro economy Dem National Convention.

- Trump's sentencing for his 34 count Felony Convictions for conspiring to commit Election Fraud in a scheme to improperly influence (STEAL) the 2016 election.

- That 2nd debate that will either have Trump blathering incoherently about topics the moderators did not even ask about or they must send out a search party to locate him in the various basement Men's Room stalls around town.

- More Trump Rallies centered on sharks, Hannibal the Cannibal Lector and a major desperate clean-up on that VP couch sex thingy.

Elvis 2008
07-31-24, 16:24
Hey Elvis, 2021 was a surreal and unique year. I remember it well after suffering through fucking 2020 and being locked out of SE Asia. So, when 2021 finally rolled around and Asia was still closed, I was determined not to let another year go down the toilet and go to waste.

I won't bore you with repeat retellings of my two EPIC 2021 trips. But both trips were amazing and my reports that I posted at the time are in the appropriate threads if anyone cares to take a look. The 1st plane I took down to RJ was around 85% filled, but relatively inexpensive. 5-star & 6-star hotels WERE near empty, very inexpensive, with free hotel room upgrades the rule. Everything was inexpensive, and most importantly, Brazilian girls of the highest quality were super friendly, genuinely happy to meet me, super turned on, AND once again, let me stress this: very inexpensive compared to 2024 prices. It is a case study in Supply & Demand.And if I am not mistaken you posted in real time what you were doing. Woodman did. I did and so did a few other guys. Meanwhile, the guys who locked themselves with a virus with a 0. 2% mortality were adhering to social distancing, wearing masks, and chastised people who were skeptical of masks. There was this douche who lectured everyone on Covid after getting it after a vax saying it was only 95% effective. Of course we know now that was the best it ever got as the vaccine offered virtually no protection with time. The vax comments may have been the dumbest of all the Covid comments, and that is saying something.

But economically you print $10 trillion out of thin air and you have inflation? WTF did these people expect to have happen? I have been betting on the inevitable recession due to that money printing and have to had eat crow. I was like why are things so good with so much inflation and higher rates? And I got my answer. The Fed just stop Covid stimulus in the fall of 2023. I was shocked. So that is why things are not looking good now. The Fed finally pulled away the last of the free money.


HMEANWHILE, in USA 2021, people living in cities and states under left wing control lost their freedoms, jobs, and businesses in a politically manufactured tyranny.Yeah, and you would think if anything the chicks guys like us were banging would have woke people up. Instead, I got these douches saying they did not exist. There were two 10's in Brazil I met via seeking I was chatting with and just could not get the time to go down there, so even though I scored huge in Colombia, I am jealous of your trips. Colombian women are the sweetest in the world but Brazilian women perform like no others.

And why would you trust the government and media ever again after the Covid debacle? But that is not where the Democratic douche anger goes. For some reason, they direct it towards us. They liked about Covid and then they lied about Biden's health. How many times does the MSM have to be caught lying until these douches pull their heads out of their asses?


Viva Trump!Yeah, given how the MSM has lied about everything else, you should vote for Trump just because the MSM does not like him.

Elvis 2008
07-31-24, 17:14
Better get use to a women as you leader, it'll sure bring down your blood pressure or NOT! This from the douche who said Biden would win.


Numskull Trump is already saying, he doesn't need the votes (...kkkk!). Not sure what that means or how he expects to win without votes..Well, you all won in 2020 without the votes and here we are in 2024 and your candidate has gotten zero votes from the public. So yeah, Trump has already gotten more votes than your candidate. You Democratic douches no longer believe in voting. Maybe we should ask fucking George Clooney who should be president and go from there.

You do not recognize that Harris is the weakest presidential candidate since Romney in 2012. She did not go to UCLA and Stanford law school. She went to Hastings. She failed the bar exam the first time she took it. The Clintons went to Yale. Obama went to Harvard. No bar failings. I would not even say skin color matters because there are other women of color who have much more impressive resumes. So why is Harris even in the conversation? Because she sucked Willie Brown's dick and kissed Joe Biden's ass. Period.

Apparently, Biden was pissed Obama was leading the charge against Biden. The two never liked each other. As you probably do know, Obama did not endorse Harris right away and neither did Biden. In fact, Biden endorsed Harris as the ultimate FU to Obama, and why wouldn't he? She is a horrible candidate and a shitty person. In fact, Biden never liked her. He dumped the border czar job on her to make her look badly.

Then you have this jewel from Matt Taibbi, Editorialists raved about her "charisma" and "forceful personality" and wondered at her unpopularity like a Scooby-Doo mystery, ignoring that she acts like she wouldn't touch a voter with a tweezer and on a good day rambles like Alan Greenspan on ether when unscripted. On bad days (a lot of them out there) she sounds like a drunk trying to explain her way out of a citation.

The "border czar" mess means we're all-in on another "Don't believe your eyes" campaign. This time the game is convincing us Kamala Harris hasn't been a historically disastrous primary candidate who repeatedly inspired public resignations, had an incredible 72 staffers rat her out in just two media profiles as messageless and "abusive," and who just last Friday showed up late for a crucial conference call with 300 donors, inspiring public critique of her performance as "ludicrous. " A week later circumstances have changed so the facts have as well; we're told Kamala's campaign energy is "breathtaking in its velocity," with Gen Z voters already spreading the "Kamalove" among youth who previously felt "left behind by the Democratic party. " Those are "the truths we hold," until someone decides we need new ones. Are you enjoying this era yet?

End of link. How many times are you dumb douches going to fall for this shit? Covid not being from a lab? The vaccine? Biden's health? When are you douches going to wake up and see reality?

She is going to win? How much of this stuff I posted is new to you?

As for the debate, the way Trump is thinking he kicked Biden's ass so badly that he quit, and he does not want that with Harris. He wants her more than Biden. This time, he is waiting until she is locked in first so you douches do not switch out the candidate again after the polling numbers tank. To me, that is smart.

The only chance Harris has is if people do not know who she is. I would not even do the debate if I were her.

Xpartan
08-01-24, 00:51
Come on man! This is the same obnoxious attack Xpartan has been waging against me for years, and you are censoring my response. Then I got another poster PMing me saying you are a leftie who is biased as hell. This is politics. We argue. We debate. We call each other stupid. The goal is winning the point and that may mean being obnoxious when you win.

When someone makes an obnoxious post towards me, and you just let it sit and censor counterattack, you may as well as just give that poster a thumb's up. What the hell is going on? Who was the old moderator and how do we get him back? Can you stop with this stupid censoring bullshit?I lose comments all the time so maybe they mod is a biased right winger, huh? In all seriousness: even Marquis' veiled calls for a civil war find their ways to these pages. I'm not saying mods never censor, but it's much more likely that your comment was simply lost. And yes, I know this explanation is boring and so contrary to Trump cult members' belief that everything is a left conspiracy against them.

Instead of bitching about something as benign as a lost comment, just say what you've got to say again, and be done with it. If it's your typical long-winded essay, then copy it beforehand. Seriously, this is a bad form.

EihTooms
08-01-24, 03:42
Yeah, what about 'em? Why don't you state your case, and "mansplain it", like a good INCEL, He-man woman-hater misogynist?

Oh, BTW, would those be the same "maternal and paternal rights", you Repubs, were trying to endorse, with Herschel Walker?

Can't wait until Veep Harris beats Trump at the ballot-box, to see what crazy insurrection, you Repubs come up with this time and claim you've won an election, where Dems carry the poplar vote by more than 7+ million. Chicken-shit Trump, won't even debate Veep Harris, talk about dickless! (...Well according to Stormy Daniels).

Numskull Trump is already saying, he doesn't need the votes (...kkkk!). Not sure what that means or how he expects to win without votes. But I'll leave that up to you QAnon/MAGA conspiracists!

PS: Better get use to a women as you leader, it'll sure bring down your blood pressure or NOT! (...kkkk!)New Report Details Terrifying Threat of Trumps Election Deniers.
July 29, 2024

https://www.yahoo.com/news/report-finds-pro-trump-election-185829649.html


At least 70 pro Donald Trump election denialists are working as election officials in key swing states, according to a report published Monday from Rolling Stone and the right-wing extremism research newsletter American Doom.

Officials who had promoted election conspiracy theories were identified in at least 16 counties in six swing states: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania. These individuals were identified through scouring coverage of refusals to certify 2020 election results and other denialist behavior, as well as sifting through the social media profiles of election officials in these states.

Across these swing states, Trump loyalists stand ready to disrupt the results of democratically held electionsat least 22 of them have already refused or delayed certification in recent years, indicating likely chaos in November.You know how this works. Trump / Repub whining and accusations are always projections, confessions and admissions of what he / they are doing. Their recent phony Repub outrage over Dem primary voters supposedly not having their primary votes counted for Biden and only Biden as "undemocratic" was a huge tip off that Repubs are planning another major election steal in November.

Trump's "Stop the Steal" BIG LIE was another huge tip off of Trump's projection and plan for 2020. Killed and maimed a lot of cops over that one.

Trump knows his Loony America-hating, democracy-hating MAGAs installed in those key positions will steal the election for him as the election was stolen for G. W. Bush in 2000 and his 34 Felonies worked to steal the 2016 election for him.

And if their steal gets challenged in the lower courts, no problem, they will just trot it on over to the Loony Repub MAGA 6 on the Supreme Court where they are certain to get the Favorable Trump / Repub ruling they want.

"Undemocratic"? LOL. Repubs can't win the presidency through democratic means and therefore, if they rely on getting the most votes, they can't stack the Supreme Court for undemocratic pro Repub rulings by Loony Repub MAGAs.

Had Florida Repub officials not stolen the 2000 election for G. W. Bush he never would have been in a position to lie America into 2 counterproductive, quagmire Repub wars, run as a self-described Wartime President and thereby squeak out a nominal majority of votes and be handed an even more disastrous 2nd term in 2004. Which would have made it a clean sweep for Dem presidential candidates getting the most votes ever since Reagan's VP Bush was foolishly given "4 More Years" of Reaganomics Gross Economic and Jobs Creation Underperformance relative to the tons and tons of deficit spending Reagan threw at it just to underperform 36 years ago.

That being the case, if only Presidents who got into office by legitimately and democratically winning the majority of the American votes were allowed to nominate Supreme Court Justices I believe there would be exactly ONE Repub Justice on today's Supreme Court; the unprecedented historically corrupt Clarence Thomas! LOL.

Repubs are not into democracy because democracy is simply not into Repubs. As nobody knows better than Donald Trump.

Elvis 2008
08-01-24, 07:14
Instead of bitching about something as benign as a lost comment, just say what you've got to say again, and be done with it.Why would you assume it was just one?


I lose comments all the time so maybe they mod is a biased right winger, huh? In all seriousnessI agree with you that the possibility of a biased right winger as mod cannot be taken seriously. Again, you think it is just me griping or maybe me and someone else. It is not. I have had multiple people with our views gripe about the censorship of Republican / conservative voices.

Hell, I could create a leftist alter ego to prove myself right, but I do not have to. I have Spidy.


and "mansplain it", like a good INCEL, He-man woman-hater misogynist?

Oh, BTW, would those be the same "maternal and paternal rights", you Repubs, were trying to endorse, with Herschel Walker?

Can't wait to see what crazy insurrection, you Repubs come up with this time. Chicken-shit Trump, won't even debate Veep Harris, talk about dickless! (...Well according to Stormy Daniels).

Numskull Trump is already saying, he doesn't need the votes (...kkkk!). But I'll leave that up to you QAnon/MAGA conspiracists!

Better get use to a women as you leader, it'll sure bring down your blood pressure or NOT! If I had my way, Xpartan, I would not have a moderator at all, but if you are going to have one, how do you let this pass?

To show you how bad this is, I am going to change Republican to black people. Here is that paragraph.

Maybe you can mansplain it like a good negro, sexless woman hater like all you black men are? Can't wait to see what crazy rebellion you negroes come up with this time. Chicken shit Martin Luther King will not debate J. Edgar Hoover. Talk about dickless. Numbskull MLK is saying he does not need white people. But I will leave that up to all you dumb black people. Better get used to having only white people as politicians, it will get your blood pressure down.

But when I use the objective term Democratic douche, we have to ban that.

The typical Democrat is racist, is sexist, and is prejudice. Democrats are actively racist against white people, and they are actively sexist against men. And they are prejudice against Republicans. Tell the average Democrat that you are Republican, and you are automatically judged as being stupid.

What kills me is this moderator probably thinks like you do Xpartan. He thinks of himself as objective when people on my side are griping like crazy. You are already been making excuses for him.

The truth though is if we are talking about the moderators, it is the same as talking about refs. They should be as invisible as possible and when they are not, they are not doing their job.

SubCmdr
08-01-24, 07:26
Those democratic bitches that hate crypto took a loss a few days ago. SEC threw up their hands and said, no mas, no mas.

Will the republicans follow through on the promises made to the crypto industry and users? Trump may just be pandering for votes. I don't know. Dey be liars and scammers also. We will see.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/sec-drops-ruling-request-security-token-claims-binance-lawsuit

Spidy
08-01-24, 10:26
Come on man! This is the same obnoxious attack Xpartan has been waging against me for years, and you are censoring my response. Then I got another poster PMing me saying you are a leftie who is biased as hell. This is politics. We argue. We debate. We call each other stupid. The goal is winning the point and that may mean being obnoxious when you win.

When someone makes an obnoxious post towards me, and you just let it sit and censor counterattack, you may as well as just give that poster a thumb's up. What the hell is going on? Who was the old moderator and how do we get him back? Can you stop with this stupid censoring bullshit?

Sure was a lotta cheesy sentiment with that whine! (...kkkk!)

I seem to remember Admin censoring just as many Dems as Repubs, in the past (as well as today), that were using the very same vitriol, insults and repeated derogatory comments you're known to use and all sides of the political divide, were all treated fairly by Admin. Now somehow you think YOU, Elvis 2008, should be given preferential treatment??? Pure hubris!

It almost sounded to me, like your bitchng and whining, about the moderator, was you saying, the moderator was some kinda DEI hire? Like you Repubs love to say about people in positions of authority (or power) above you, to make yourselves feel better. And in this case, you're using your Repub DEI rhetoric to browbeat an ISG moderator.

BTW, it is this sort of disrespect for Admin and the spewing of hate, racism, bigotry, vitriol, persistent use of derogatory comments towards your fellow ISGers...etc, as to why the decline in X (formally Twitter, a site with very little oversight, rules, restrictions or regulations), that has dramatically lost users and traffic (30% year over year) to sites like Reddit (an old school social media platform). Reddit traffic is up 39% year over year in May 2024.

The trend is clear, bad behavior on social media, left unchecked, uncensored or unbridled, is JUST NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS!

Get used to being censored and stop being a pussy! It's just like you'll have to get use to a woman president, in Kamala Harris!

Spidy
08-01-24, 10:46
Based on at least 3 recent polls that the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site factored into their Consensus, Michigan has now been moved from the Repub / Trump / Vance side to the Dem / Harris side on their No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college

One down. 2 to go. Plenty of time.

Next up:

- Harris chooses a perfectly competent and fit for office non weirdo VP candidate.

- The normal and pro America, pro democracy, pro business, pro economy Dem National Convention.

- Trump's sentencing for his 34 count Felony Convictions for conspiring to commit Election Fraud in a scheme to improperly influence (STEAL) the 2016 election.

- That 2nd debate that will either have Trump blathering incoherently about topics the moderators did not even ask about or they must send out a search party to locate him in the various basement Men's Room stalls around town.

- More Trump Rallies centered on sharks, Hannibal the Cannibal Lector and a major desperate clean-up on that VP couch sex thingy.Great news with Michigan. And with Trump and JDV shooting themselves in the foot, trying to come up with cut slogans and insults to throw at Veep Harris, is it any wonder they are losing ground in key battle states.

But speaking of weird and weirdos. What's with JD Vance and his obsession with the personal lives and bodies of American women? The weirdo is a cross between something out of a Hitchcock Misogyny Bates Motel horror thriller and the "INCEL HE-MAN's Woman Haters Club House".

Even white women are tuning away from that weird misogynistic mess, they now call a campaign.

Elvis 2008
08-01-24, 15:20
Sure was a lotta cheesy sentiment with that whine! (...kkkk!)

I seem to remember Admin censoring just as many Dems as Repubs, in the past (as well as today), that were using the very same vitriol, insults and repeated derogatory comments you're known to use and all sides of the political divide, were all treated fairly by Admin. Now somehow you think YOU, Elvis 2008, should be given preferential treatment??? Pure hubris!As I just showed, if that were true, all your posts would be banned. I posted this because of the number of posts the admin was not approving.


BTW, it is this sort of disrespect for Admin and the spewing of hate, racism, bigotry, vitriol persistent useLOL. You Democratic douches are the biggest racists going. How many times have we heard the nonsense that Barack Obama was the first black president? LOL. He is half-white and was raised in a white household. The correct racial term for Obama is not black but mixed.

And we have the same racist crap with Kamala Harris. On her birth certificate, her mother is listed as Caucasian. He father is listed as Jamaican. What you probably do not know is that there are White Jamiacans. In fact, a lot of them are the offspring of slave owners. In short, Jamaican is not black and Kamala's father was mixed (half black and half white) as well, so Kamala is 75% white per HER birth certificate. In fact, she is so white that her father's side of the family owned slaves in Jamaica.

Kamala is in favor of reparations. Well, number one in line should be her.

Historically, my favorite leader was Queen Elizabeth the First. She was the ultimate female leader in that she did not imitate male leadership but embraced her femininity to lead.

Look, the Harris bump is not surprising. She is not giving any interviews and she should not. She is not doing anything but reading off a teleprompter. She should not have rallies. She should continue to play the game where she is whatever you want her to be. She is not Trump and she is not Biden.

But the real reason she should do that is the truth: she is a horrible human being, and she is so stupid. You are as blind to who she is as you were about Biden's health. All you care about is her party affiliation.

I have voted for Obama. I like RFK Jr. You are so prejudice that the adjective you link with Republican is stupid. You are so damned prejudice you do not judge people for who they are. You judge them on how they vote.

Elvis 2008
08-01-24, 15:49
Based on at least 3 recent polls that the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site factored into their Consensus, Michigan has now been moved from the Repub / Trump / Vance side to the Dem / Harris side on their No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college

One down. 2 to go. Plenty of time.Tooms, you showed a map where Trump has 297 electoral votes. How is that good news?


Harris chooses a perfectly competent and fit for office non weirdo VP candidate.You mean a white male right?


Trump's sentencing for his 34 count Felony Convictions for conspiring to commit Election Fraud in a scheme to improperly influence (STEAL) the 2016 election.You mean you have not learned that trying to arrest your way to winning has blown up in your face by now?

I think it is funny in that you dumb Dems are missing the biggest weakness with Kamala. Namely, that nobody fucking voted for her. Why the hell is she the nominee? Because she cut deals with delegates?

I read the NYT morning piece and they said Trump had problems. The Trump team did not know how to handle her. They also said Trump had problems in a black town hall type event. When I watched the video, he destroyed the black reporter out for blood, and he got a lot of support from a hostile crowd.

So you can be all excited about the bump. I keep telling you Trump is holding back until she is locked in. He does not want anyone else. Let her get the bump in the polls.

If you have not noticed, Trump is already shown you his game plan. Kamala is using identify politics, and Trump is already saying she is a fraud. One minute, she says she is Indian. The next she says she is black. Her birth certificate says she is 75% white and within her family history, she has white relatives who were slave owners. How is that going to go over well with black voters? That and her jailing so many black men for smoking pot?

Hell, even being a woman which Spidy says I am so afraid of can change. If you are a Democrat, you can change sexes like you can change clothes. Kamala can decide to be a man her first day in office. So if you think you are a voting for a black woman, you are definitely not voting for a black person, and you might not even be voting for a woman.

Woodman09
08-01-24, 17:13
This is Classic Trump-.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRUaCK0Bgm0

Where the Fuck is KaMaLaaaaaaaahhhHHHhhhhhh?

EihTooms
08-01-24, 18:44
Tooms, you showed a map where Trump has 297 electoral votes. How is that good news?

You mean a white male right?

You mean you have not learned that trying to arrest your way to winning has blown up in your face by now?

I think it is funny in that you dumb Dems are missing the biggest weakness with Kamala. Namely, that nobody fucking voted for her. Why the hell is she the nominee? Because she cut deals with delegates?

I read the NYT morning piece and they said Trump had problems. The Trump team did not know how to handle her. They also said Trump had problems in a black town hall type event. When I watched the video, he destroyed the black reporter out for blood, and he got a lot of support from a hostile crowd.

So you can be all excited about the bump. I keep telling you Trump is holding back until she is locked in. He does not want anyone else. Let her get the bump in the polls.

If you have not noticed, Trump is already shown you his game plan. Kamala is using identify politics, and Trump is already saying she is a fraud. One minute, she says she is Indian. The next she says she is black. Her birth certificate says she is 75% white and within her family history, she has white relatives who were slave owners. How is that going to go over well with black voters? That and her jailing so many black men for smoking pot?

Hell, even being a woman which Spidy says I am so afraid of can change. If you are a Democrat, you can change sexes like you can change clothes. Kamala can decide to be a man her first day in office. So if you think you are a voting for a black woman, you are definitely not voting for a black person, and you might not even be voting for a woman.Oh come on, you can figure that one out on your own, can't you?

Because RCP had Trump at 312 with Michigan on his side in their No Toss-Up States EV Map just a few days ago. Now it's on Harris' side with polling trends looking like Wisconsin is not far behind. And Harris can work a bit more on Pennsylvania.

Actually, even where the polls stood on those 3 decisive states with Biden before he dropped out he likely would have won the necessary 270 and more when you factor in the much greater ground game Biden has been setting up in those and other battleground states for years vs Trump's near zero and the fact that polling methodology has overcorrected and generally been overcounting Repub election strength since the 2020 election (when they were overcounting Dem election strength). Both conditions could easily overcome as much as a 6 point Repub lead in the Consensus. Not insurmountable in the least. And Trump was not as far ahead in the Consensus in those states as 6 points.

The only one obsessed with race, Harris' or anyone else, is Trump. And in a BIG way! He can barely talk about anything else lately.

LOL. Although I must say my favorite part of Trump's disastrous screed at the NABJ was when he totally destroyed his one central campaign argument against Biden's handling of border crossings when he blurted out, "We want people to come. But they have to be checked, they have to be vetted"!

No kidding, Numbskull? That is exactly what Biden has been doing for 3 1/2 years. Only it now takes 6 months to check and vet them instead of 6 weeks because Numbskull Trump decimated the legal Immigration system before he got his ass kicked out of offices.

Biden is trying to fix Trumps broken immigration system.
2/29/2024

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/4497637-biden-is-trying-to-fix-trumps-broken-immigration-system/


Both President Biden and former President Trump are visiting the U.S.-Mexico border today, where voters will hear dueling messages about what each believes the other one has done or failed to do. As such, it is important to debunk the gargantuan myth of how successful Trump was on the issue of border security and controlling illegal immigration.

Trump was not successful. In fact, he made the issue much worse, decimating the legal immigration system while failing to deter illegal migration.That was the challenge Biden faced, the mess Trump left behind, when following his USA Constitutional requirement to "check and vet" Immigrants requesting asylum.

EihTooms
08-01-24, 21:10
This is Classic Trump-.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRUaCK0Bgm0

Where the Fuck is KaMaLaaaaaaaahhhHHHhhhhhh?On a Google Search:

How the Harris Campaign Intends to Keep Up the Momentum in Its Second Week.
July 30, 2024 https://time.com/7005213/kamala-harris-schedule-georgia-texas/.


After a remarkable first week as a presidential candidate in which she pulled even with Donald Trump in polls and injected new enthusiasm into the Democratic Party, Kamala Harris is sprinting to convert the summer-time flush of excitement into votes in November.

The Harris for President campaign is moving quickly to add to the paid staff installed by the Biden campaign across the country, including hiring 150 staffers during the first two weeks of August to deploy in the so-called Blue Wall states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. That would bring Harris total campaign staff in those states to 750 people, up from 600. In Arizona and North Carolina, Harris plans to double the size of her campaign staff, a sign that her strategists believe those states are back in play after some in the party had suggested they had become unwinnable when President Joe Biden was still at the top of the ticket.By contrast, after Trump finishes licking his wounds and reassess having destroyed a key campaign talking points re border crossings at that 1 hour scheduled NABJ appearance that went so well his handlers hustled him out of there after just 34 minutes, apparently he will spent valuable time in recovery by shoring up his shaky hold on. Uh. Montana. LOL.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/events


President Donald J. Trump to Hold a Rally in Bozeman, Montana.

Elvis 2008
08-02-24, 02:06
This is Classic Trump-.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRUaCK0Bgm0

Where the Fuck is KaMaLaaaaaaaahhhHHHhhhhhh?In the beginning, you play it as offensive as the Dems do. How dare you say she is not black? Then you see the clips of her saying she is Indian. And then you are well, wait a second, what is on her birth certificate?

And Laura Loomer digs it up, so what do the Democratic douches do? They call her a right wing conspiracy night because she tells the truth. And here is what she posts:

https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1818732213669884124

I have a copy of Kamala Harris's at KamalaHarris.

's birth certificate.

Nowhere on her birth certificate does it say that she is BLACK OR AFRICAN.

At KamalaHQ is a liar.

Donald Trump is correct. Kamala Harris is NOT black and never has been.

She is also the descendent of slave owners.

Kamala Harris's four-times-paternal-great-grandfather is a guy named Hamilton Brown. He was born in Co Antrim in 1776, the same year of the US Declaration of Independence. Brown emigrated to Jamaica when it was a British colony, and once he arrived, he became an avid slave owner on the sugar plantations in Jamaica.

Hamilton Brown opposed the abolition of slavery in the British Empire and promoted slavery and slave ownership till the day he died.

And then she posts a copy of her birth certificate.

Now Indian may be a description of how somebody looks, but it is also a country, and what would you call someone light skinned from Pakistan? White right? So you can be from India and be white and you can be from Jamaica and be white too?

So if your mother is 100% white and your father is half white and half black? You are 75% white. Period.

And this bit about her bussing bullshit? OMG. Her father is a professor at Stanford, and her mother is a professor at Canada's version of Harvard, McGill University. So you have two parents as professors and we are supposed to believe that you were bussed like a black person from the ghetto? Please.

You are trying to relate to blacks when you went to high school in white as fuck and safe as fuck Montreal? Double please.

Woodman, people get their genetic testing done and some of the whitest people have a percentage of them that is black. So now we know who Kamala really is, a privileged as fuck white woman trying to come across as a bussed and oppressed black woman from the hood.

And thanks to Trump now, the truth is coming out.

I do not even know what the Democratic douches are going to say. Her own fucking birth certificate shows she is 75% white.

EihTooms
08-02-24, 05:15
In the beginning, you play it as offensive as the Dems do. How dare you say she is not black? Then you see the clips of her saying she is Indian. And then you are well, wait a second, what is on her birth certificate?

And Laura Loomer digs it up, so what do the Democratic douches do? They call her a right wing conspiracy night because she tells the truth. And here is what she posts:

https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1818732213669884124

I have a copy of Kamala Harris's at KamalaHarris.

's birth certificate.

Nowhere on her birth certificate does it say that she is BLACK OR AFRICAN.

At KamalaHQ is a liar.

Donald Trump is correct. Kamala Harris is NOT black and never has been.

She is also the descendent of slave owners.

Kamala Harris's four-times-paternal-great-grandfather is a guy named Hamilton Brown. He was born in Co Antrim in 1776, the same year of the US Declaration of Independence. Brown emigrated to Jamaica when it was a British colony, and once he arrived, he became an avid slave owner on the sugar plantations in Jamaica.

Hamilton Brown opposed the abolition of slavery in the British Empire and promoted slavery and slave ownership till the day he died.

And then she posts a copy of her birth certificate.

Now Indian may be a description of how somebody looks, but it is also a country, and what would you call someone light skinned from Pakistan? White right? So you can be from India and be white and you can be from Jamaica and be white too?

So if your mother is 100% white and your father is half white and half black? You are 75% white. Period.

And this bit about her bussing bullshit? OMG. Her father is a professor at Stanford, and her mother is a professor at Canada's version of Harvard, McGill University. So you have two parents as professors and we are supposed to believe that you were bussed like a black person from the ghetto? Please.

You are trying to relate to blacks when you went to high school in white as fuck and safe as fuck Montreal? Double please.

Woodman, people get their genetic testing done and some of the whitest people have a percentage of them that is black. So now we know who Kamala really is, a privileged as fuck white woman trying to come across as a bussed and oppressed black woman from the hood.

And thanks to Trump now, the truth is coming out.

I do not even know what the Democratic douches are going to say. Her own fucking birth certificate shows she is 75% white.As your link clearly proves (lololol), the Great Race / Ethinicity / Appearance / Religion Detective, Donald J. Trump, is right that nobody in their right mind would ever conclude that Kamala Harris has much if any Black ancestry by simply looking at her father with their lying eyes.

Similar to Barack Obama, who the Great Race / Ethnicity / Appearance / Religion Detective, Donald J. Trump, proved was not born in America and, therefore, both Repub McCain and Repub MittWitt had the election stolen from them:

EihTooms
08-02-24, 08:35
I forget. At which point in the 2016 and 2020 Presidential Election campaigns did the Great Race / Ethnicity / Appearance / Religion Detective, Donald J. Trump, go on a rant questioning Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden's "whiteness", their birth records, country of origin and so on?

I mean, we all know Detective Trump and his MAGAs are far from racist and absolutely bristle at any such suggestion.

But since it appears Detective Trump has made a pattern, of sorts, of publicly and repeatedly questioning these aspects of certain political adversaries and opponents such as Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, Nikki Hakey (or was it Nancy Pelosi), etc, surely there is a rich historical record of him doing the exact same thing with, oh, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. As a matter of unbiased consistency, that is.

Anybody remember when Detective Trump did that during the 2016 and 2020 general election campaign?

Any legitimate real news links will do.

EihTooms
08-02-24, 10:50
Trump / Vance House of Cards, anyone?

If you listen to the audio of this, you can actually hear the deep sadness in the voice of the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics people on the unpleasant duty to probably take Georgia away from Trump in their No Toss-Up States EV Map and put it back to The Toss-Up category. Which is something they can delay, but not really ignore forever. Man, do they hate that.

Wonder how they will deal with doing the same with Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, etc after / post that terrific Republican National Convention, the big announcement of hetero-sectional Vance as the VP nominee and Trump's impressive-as-always acceptance speech.

I mean, if they are forced to do that, of course:

RealClearPolitics: Harris Has Put Georgia Back in the Toss-Up Category.
Aug. 1, 2024

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/08/01/realclearpolitics_harris_has_put_georgia_back_in_the_toss-up_category.html


Wednesday, on the RealClearPolitics radio show, the gang discussed a new poll from Bloomberg/Morning Consult showing Kamala Harris tied with Donald Trump in Georgia and wonder, in light of Harris hosting a rally in Atlanta this week, whether the state is back in play in the 2024 election.

Donald Trump is up 3.6% in the current RCP average but Tom Bevan notes: "You have to consider this new Bloomberg/Morning Consult poll that has it tied. Emerson has a post-dropout poll at two points, their previous poll had Trump up 10 points. And you've got another Landmark Communication poll that has Trump up one point. So you can't ignore the fact that Georgia is back in the toss-up category."

"Donald Trump and J.D. Vance certainly think it is in play because they're going there this weekend," Carl Cannon added.

EihTooms
08-02-24, 11:30
Well. Now we know what Harris and other Democrats in Biden's circle were "hiding" about his mental state, acuity, cognitive competence and total fitness to serve as one of the Greatest Presidents of the United States of America;.

His perfectly lucid, clear-headed, experience-informed, wise, unprecedented and masterful spearheading, coordinating, guiding and finalizing one of if not THE most complicated and successful release of political prisoners not just since the Cold War but including and prior to the Cold War.

Right up to the hour he dropped out of the 2024 Presidential Election after typically pro Repub Mainstream Media had spent weeks pulling all the stops to mischaracterize his relatively insignificant and minor recent verbal motor skills deficit, if being a contestant on a Presidential Debate Quiz Show but obviously not if performing the duties of POTUS, as the greatest threat to America than Trump's Pandemic. Who, BTW, that same MSM gave a near total pass for creating.

Biden burnishes his legacy with historic prisoner swap.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1e1ygx7r1o

Yeah. Thanks again, Joe.

SubCmdr
08-02-24, 14:25
How about content of character?

I've had a black President. Never thought I would see that in my lifetime. So, not the streak is broken there is going to be a black face hanging up on the wall under the Lincoln memorial how about we lay that issue to rest. Trump would not be a better person if he was black. It is about strength of character.

If we need a female President I am going to write in AOC for President or Liz Cheney.

EihTooms
08-02-24, 15:24
You know how sometimes caregivers try to drop gentle hints that things might not be going quite as well as those early X-Rays had suggested in order to ease their patient into a state of relative acceptance before they have to hit them with The Big One?

New Polling Shows that Harris Can't Be Counted Out in PA.
July 1, 2024

https://www.realclearpennsylvania.com/articles/2024/08/01/new_polling_shows_that_harris_cant_be_counted_out_in_pa_1048931.html

You really need to read that whole article to understand what the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics has understood and been seeing in the internals of the very polls they love to post and factor into their Consensus in order to keep their beloved Trump and other Repubs looking as pretty as possible for as long as possible. Yikes.

EihTooms
08-02-24, 16:14
How about content of character?

I've had a black President. Never thought I would see that in my lifetime. So, not the streak is broken there is going to be a black face hanging up on the wall under the Lincoln memorial how about we lay that issue to rest. Trump would not be a better person if he was black. It is about strength of character.

If we need a female President I am going to write in AOC for President or Liz Cheney.Hmm. Based on the Trump / MAGA pattern, of sorts, I think we can count on The Great Race / Ethnicity / Appearance / Religion Detective, Donald J. Trump, launching into a very loud and repeated public questioning of AOC's family, bloodline and heritage if any advance warning of write-in votes for her remotely threaten his election win.

But for Liz Cheney? Not so much. Ok, not even a whisper of it for 10 seconds. But Cheney's sexual preference would definitely be up for large-scale MAGA and Winger Media scrutiny and investigation. After all, her first name is kinda' close to the word "Lez", isn't it?

But Detective Trump and his MAGAs are not racists or bigots. As we all know.

The Cane
08-02-24, 20:30
Unless you're Robert Downey Jr. , you don't just turn black (Tropic Thunder). That's not a thing.

That doesn't bother me as much as this though.

"A Black job is anybody that has a job. That's what it is. ".

It is quite offensive to suggest that ANY one that has job is a "black" job. How I read into that is, "you people are lucky to have a job to begin with". Yet, it ignores that for generations, the black community has strived forward is so many ways, having justices on the Supreme Courts for decades, a president, congress men and women, surgeons, lawyers, CEO's, olympians, despite confronting constant obstacles throughout their journey.

I am not Black, so I don't know you feel about statement like this. But as someone looking in, I can only see this as an insult and how one man is looking down upon a race of people.The Presidency of the United States! Donald Chump is one incredibly ignorant man.

Spidy
08-02-24, 21:19
Look, the Harris bump is not surprising. She is not giving any interviews and she should not. She is not doing anything but reading off a teleprompter. She should not have rallies. She should continue to play the game where she is whatever you want her to be. She is not Trump and she is not Biden.

But the real reason she should do that is the truth: she is a horrible human being, and she is so stupid. You are as blind to who she is as you were about Biden's health. All you care about is her party affiliation. ...

Felon, convict and pussy-grabber Trump, has the QAnon/MAGA dolts and MSM, doing exactly what he wants. Which is talking about divisive, non-issue policies and topics that have no real appeal to what the majority of Americans want and really only appeal to his QAnon/MAGA cult base.

But Americans have seen this movie before, and the BUMP and TREND in the polls for Harris, is largely due in part to the boring, wearisome, tired repetitive racist and sexist rhetoric, filled with empty campaign promises for Americans, other than tax-cuts for billionaires.

As Trump tried to court the BLACK VOTE at the NABJ, this buffoonery and lack of campaign vision for America (or Black Americans), was all to evident, as the more he opened his mouth, the more racist he became.

If anyone should keep their mouths shut, it's definitely the felon, convict and pussy-grabber, with the Nazi KKK supporter as a father.

Not sure about "...happened to turn black", but what about "Once you go KKK, you can never go BLACK" (????...kkkk!)


... The only one obsessed with race, Harris' or anyone else, is Trump. And in a BIG way! He can barely talk about anything else lately.

LOL. Although I must say my favorite part of Trump's disastrous screed at the NABJ was when he totally destroyed his one central campaign argument against Biden's handling of border crossings when he blurted out, "We want people to come. But they have to be checked, they have to be vetted"!

No kidding, Numbskull? That is exactly what Biden has been doing for 3 1/2 years. Only it now takes 6 months to check and vet them instead of 6 weeks because Numbskull Trump decimated the legal Immigration system before he got his ass kicked out of offices.

Biden is trying to fix Trumps broken immigration system.
2/29/2024

https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/4497637-biden-is-trying-to-fix-trumps-broken-immigration-system/

The interview with NABJ, was just epic! Once again, his inability (or mental incapacity) to answer any meaningful questions, that Americans want their president to address, and turning it into some kind of personal attack on him, is again, just more Trumpism on display.

If it wasn't obvious, Trump came to the NABJ interview, expecting the journalists to bow-down and acquiesce, like his right-wing FOXY Muse and Newsmax flunkies. When they wanted to talk about "real issues", he again made it about how poorly he's treated by "the media", and again evaded the questions.

When he did get around to kinda answering questions, this is an example of the racist, crap that came outta his mouth:

NABJ (National Association of Black Journalists) Trump Interview:

Black Journalist - "Why come here, what is your message today?"
Trump - "My message is to stop, people from invading our country... a lot of the journalist in this room are black, I will tell you coming from the border are millions and millions of people that happen to taking "Black Jobs"...
Black Journalist - "What is a Black Job, sir?
Trump - "A Black Job is any body that has a job"

{...the crowd laughs hysterically, as Trump attempts to backpedal from racist comments...}
Is it any wonder why only about 8% of Black voters, traditionally show up to vote for Repubs? And just like the JD Vance's cringy women's rights and single cat-women rhetoric, Americas are turning away from divisive rhetoric and moving more towards not just inclusive speech, but inclusive and cooperative ACTION.


Masterful. Unprecedented. Historic.

Well. Now we know what Harris and other Democrats in Biden's circle were "hiding" about his mental state, acuity, cognitive competence and total fitness to serve as one of the Greatest Presidents of the United States of America; ...

Biden burnishes his legacy with historic prisoner swap.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1e1ygx7r1o

Yeah. Thanks again, Joe.

Perfect example of the sort of presidential ACTIONS, a great president (in Joe Biden) and Veep (in Kamala Harris), have always taken to unite Americans and the country.

SubCmdr
08-03-24, 01:00
A black job is being President of the United States of America. History has show white men been taking that job from black people in the country throughout history.

ROTFLMAO!


Unless you're Robert Downey Jr. , you don't just turn black (Tropic Thunder). That's not a thing.

That doesn't bother me as much as this though.

"A Black job is anybody that has a job. That's what it is. ".

It is quite offensive to suggest that ANY one that has job is a "black" job. How I read into that is, "you people are lucky to have a job to begin with". Yet, it ignores that for generations, the black community has strived forward is so many ways, having justices on the Supreme Courts for decades, a president, congress men and women, surgeons, lawyers, CEO's, olympians, despite confronting constant obstacles throughout their journey.

I am not Black, so I don't know you feel about statement like this. But as someone looking in, I can only see this as an insult and how one man is looking down upon a race of people.

Elvis 2008
08-03-24, 01:07
Perfect example of the sort of presidential ACTIONS, a great president (in Joe Biden) and Veep (in Kamala Harris), have always taken to unite Americans and the country.Are you really this clueless? How the fuck is sending a SWAT team into Mar-A-Lago uniting people?

Trump said black jobs. That is horrible, but sending in a SWAT team to an ex-president's house is okay? Convicting an ex-president of a made up crime is cool? Oh, yeah, that really united the country.

And nothing says uniting the country more than the elites picking out the Democratic candidate and tossing out the wishes of voters.

Presidential actions by the vice president? Really? This is what you posted: Biden is president. I mean Harris. Honestly, I don't know.

You do not even know is making the decisions, but it is all good because in your douche brain, Democratic decisions are always good.

Clearly, you lack even a shred of objectivity, so why would anybody listen to anything you say?

EihTooms
08-03-24, 04:25
Are you really this clueless? How the fuck is sending a SWAT team into Mar-A-Lago uniting people?

Trump said black jobs. That is horrible, but sending in a SWAT team to an ex-president's house is okay? Convicting an ex-president of a made up crime is cool? Oh, yeah, that really united the country.

And nothing says uniting the country more than the elites picking out the Democratic candidate and tossing out the wishes of voters.

Presidential actions by the vice president? Really? This is what you posted: Biden is president. I mean Harris. Honestly, I don't know.

You do not even know is making the decisions, but it is all good because in your douche brain, Democratic decisions are always good.

Clearly, you lack even a shred of objectivity, so why would anybody listen to anything you say?Just for chuckles, I would love to read whatever nonsense has convinced you that either Joe Biden or Kamala Harris sent a SWAT Team into Mar-a-Lardo.

Link?

Xpartan
08-03-24, 06:29
Why would you assume it was just one?Because, Elvis, this is what you said in your cry for help: "Come on man! This is the same obnoxious attack Xpartan has been waging against me for years, and you are censoring my response."

I hope you'll agree that the word "response" is singular even if you're accusing me in waging "the attack" against you "for years". And I'm pretty sure that if you bring forward your response again, your post will come through, and I'm all for it.

It might surprise you, but I hate censorship too. However, I'm still quite sure it ain't that, LOL.

RamDavidson84
08-03-24, 07:47
Hmm. Based on the Trump / MAGA pattern, of sorts, I think we can count on The Great Race / Ethnicity / Appearance / Religion Detective, Donald J. Trump, launching into a very loud and repeated public questioning of AOC's family, bloodline and heritage if any advance warning of write-in votes for her remotely threaten his election win.

But for Liz Cheney? Not so much. Ok, not even a whisper of it for 10 seconds. But Cheney's sexual preference would definitely be up for large-scale MAGA and Winger Media scrutiny and investigation. After all, her first name is kinda' close to the word "Lez", isn't it?

But Detective Trump and his MAGAs are not racists or bigots. As we all know.Hey Tooms LOL, what's your thoughts on this male boxer in the Olympics knocking out his female opponent in under a minute? Just curious how you justify this from the Democrats who have made the Olympics a political weapon of influence and completely discriminate against anyone who doesn't support their agenda.

A few years ago, they wanted to eliminate the oldest sport in the world from the Olympics which is wrestling and now they have men boxing women. And also banning Russia from the Olympics which contributed immensely to the conflict between east and west.

Real discrimination.

EihTooms
08-03-24, 18:45
As it stands today, there are finally enough polls on Trump vs Harris Head-to-Head and the 3-5 Ways for polling services like 538 and even the old Nate Silver version of it to come to a Consensus on most issues.

To start, virtually every No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map out there (such as the 270 To Win Consensus Map in the photo below) shows the same thing; if Harris takes WI, MI and PA, she wins 270 Electoral College Votes and the election. Although there are now a few other paths opening up for her to win and / or for her to comfortably win more than 270, but that appears to be the most consistent scenario for her to hit 270.

That being the case, it is worth noting that, as seen in two of my previous posts, even the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics people have already shifted MI from Trump to Harris on their No Toss-Up States EV Map and are reluctantly admitting that PA (and GA) really ought to be taken away from Trump on a No Toss-Up status.

However, it appears those nice folks over at RCP are even more reluctant to actually get around to doing the above and updating their Map accordingly. I suppose it is very hard for them to move their keyboard fingers in the same direction as their minds and mouths. When it comes to disappointing their beloved Trump, that is.

Anyway, meanwhile, the 538 Polling site has finally updated a few key items thus:

- Harris leads Trump in MI.

- Harris leads Trump in PA.

- They say it is too soon for them to come up with a Consensus on WI, but it sure looks to me like Harris is ahead of Trump there a tad as well.

- Also, they say it is too soon to tell for the overall National level. But, there again, it sure looks to me like Harris has edged out Trump there too:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

Now, on the old Nate Silver version of the 538 site (Silver Bulletin), his latest update with the best polls that matter (according to him) show Harris ahead of Trump Nationally and, by golly, of the 9 states he has designated Battleground States, there is Harris in the lead in WI, MI and PA (and VA):

https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

https://www.270towin.com/

That's all for now, except for Trump keeps repeating that he is "ahead in the polls, by a LOT. " As of today, he is lying about that more than ever. By a LOT, as they say.

EihTooms
08-03-24, 19:22
Hey Tooms LOL, what's your thoughts on this male boxer in the Olympics knocking out his female opponent in under a minute? Just curious how you justify this from the Democrats who have made the Olympics a political weapon of influence and completely discriminate against anyone who doesn't support their agenda.

A few years ago, they wanted to eliminate the oldest sport in the world from the Olympics which is wrestling and now they have men boxing women. And also banning Russia from the Olympics which contributed immensely to the conflict between east and west.

Real discrimination.I know this is big news in MAGA World and maybe Trump wants to blame Kamala Harris and Taylor Swift for it. But the way you described it does not remotely comport with the known and published facts. Not yet anyway.

These were typical of the results of a Google Search on it:

Who is Imane Khelif? Algerian boxer facing gender outcry had modest success before Olympics.

https://apnews.com/article/olympics-2024-imane-khelif-boxing-paris-2eb07d442ffb29a61e09911884dcdaa9


VILLEPINTE, France (AP) Algerian boxer Imane Khelif has landed in the middle of a divide about gender in sports after her Italian competitor, Angela Carini, pulled out seconds into their bout at the Paris Olympics.

Outcry has come from conservatives like former U.S. President Donald Trump and Italian Premier Giorgia Meloni. Khelif was disqualified from the 2023 world championships after failing unspecified and untransparent eligibility tests for womens competition from the now-banned International Boxing Association.
Khelif was assigned female at birth and it says so on her passport, which is the International Olympic Committees threshold for eligibility for boxing because of the rift between the sports governing body and the IOC.Olympic female boxers are being attacked. Let's just slow down and look at the facts.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/dan-wolken/2024/08/01/boxers-under-fire-olympic-gender-tests/74634233007/


We know that on Wednesday, the IBA issued a statement saying that Khelif and Lin did not undergo a testosterone examination but failed a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics remain confidential during the IBA Womens World Boxing Championships in India in March of 2023.
.......
A 2023 story in the Taiwan News at the time of Lins disqualification said no explanation was given other than an abnormality and that she had never failed a gender test in the past. Some contemporaneous news reports around Lins disqualification speculated about women boxers having to take certain medications to adjust their menstrual cycles to match the competition schedule.

Heres something else we also know: The IBA has been in a long-running dispute with the IOC, and as a result, boxings future in the Olympics beyond the Paris Games is up in the air.

Whats the dispute about? In a word: Russia.

When Umar Kremlev became the IBA president in 2020, he made his mark by signing a significant sponsorship deal with Gazprom, Russias state energy supplier. It is understood that Gazprom essentially funded the IBAs entire operation.

Early in 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine. As a result, the IOC wanted the IBA to drop Gazprom and make other reforms to its governance and financial structures and to clean up a bevy of ethical issues.
........
So heres this long-running dispute between the IOC and a fully Russian-backed boxing organization, coming to a head at an Olympics where the Russians are truly personae non gratae.
.........
What else do we know? We know that Khelif and Lin have been competing in this sport for years, including the Olympics three years ago, and were not exactly dominating the competition. Khelif lost in the quarterfinals in Tokyo and Lin lost in the round of 16 of a different weight class. They were also being tested without any issue coming up, until this sudden 2023 test that nobody can really explain.

Amy Broadhurst, an Irish world champion boxer who has been in the ring with Khelif and beaten her, posted on X that, "Personally I don't think she has done anything to 'cheat'. I thinks (sic) it's the way she was born & that's out of her control. The fact that she has been (beaten) by 9 females before says it all."Yes, you read that right. If anything, this might turn out to be just another instance where Putin has made his Puppet Trump dance for him as Russia's Most Useful Idiot. " Lolol.

CheckMate1
08-03-24, 20:32
Just for chuckles, I would love to read whatever nonsense has convinced you that either Joe Biden or Kamala Harris sent a SWAT Team into Mar-a-Lardo.

Link?I think 2008 meant Seal Team 6, with help from the Precrime division of the Department of Justice, or was it the Justice League.

It's a rabbit hole that is enlarged by MAGA to see who can dig the deepest.

The former dude had boxes in his BATHROOM. Please don't defend that guy.

Xpartan
08-03-24, 21:09
Hey Tooms LOL, what's your thoughts on this male boxer in the Olympics knocking out his female opponent in under a minute? Just curious how you justify this from the Democrats who have made the Olympics a political weapon of influence and completely discriminate against anyone who doesn't support their agenda.

A few years ago, they wanted to eliminate the oldest sport in the world from the Olympics which is wrestling and now they have men boxing women. And also banning Russia from the Olympics which contributed immensely to the conflict between east and west.

Real discrimination.Can you (or any other Putin's cocksuckers on this forum) prove that Imane Khelif was born male? If you can, I'll immediately join your discontent, I promise.

Please, take your time.

Elvis 2008
08-04-24, 01:24
Just for chuckles, I would love to read whatever nonsense has convinced you that either Joe Biden or Kamala Harris sent a SWAT Team into Mar-a-Lardo.

Link?Biden or Harris? Who is the acting president now?

And your point is just a distraction. If Biden knew about the raid, it is disgusting. If he did not know about it, it is disgusting. If I am president and the FBI does not notify me about a raid of a political opponent, whoever gave the okay is fired. Period. I would demand that the DOJ be kept objective. If I am president, I call Trump myself. I tell him that NARA needs the records. I tell him to have the documents ready within 7 days. If not, I will notify the media of the noncompliance and then and only then say he could receive a SWAT raid.

Why was this done? First off, apparently the FBI had copies of all the records Trump had. So this was not about the government having records but Trump not having them. The other story was the FBI was worried Trump had records embarrassing to the FBI and the top secret thing was all a ruse. That makes sense as to why the FBI did what it did.

As far as the Biden administration being out of the loop, that is a huge stretch to believe. And if they did not know, they should have.

Here is what you want to dispute Tooms: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/10/report-joe-bidens-white-house-involved-in-raid-on-donald-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence/.

So get your fact checkers out and say this document proves nothing. What you do not get is no one on our side cares. We all think Biden was in on everything.

Woodman09
08-04-24, 02:03
President Trump drew Full Capacity crowd with thousands++ Outside-- Didn't Hire rappers, Kid Rock, Hulkster. Didn't give away foodstamps-- -- They just came to see The Man hours early like they always do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcN9JcYwhNw

SubCmdr
08-04-24, 03:04
Race has no place in politics!

The first time I went to the a country on the African Continent the name of the country was South Africa still during the days of Apartheid. When I arrived the customs agent did not tell me I could only operate in the designated homelands. He said, welcome to South Africa you are our guest. So, I am out in the country and I go into the store to buy something and ask for it. The store clerk asks: Are you American?. They did not say, welcome back my brother.

When I goto Colombia I present a my passport. My passport is issued by the United States of America. They say to me: enjoy your visit.

When I goto the Dominican Republic I present my passport. My passport is issued by the United Staes of America. They say to me: enjoy your visit.

When I return to the United States of America. I present my passport. I get sent to secondary. Not riding dirty so I clear. But I miss my flight. I finally make it to my destination. I collect my bags and exit the airport. First thing I hear is: n***** go home. Shit! I was born in dis mother fucker. Where am I suppose to go? Where am I? Pulaski, Tennessee.

Racial division serves the economic interested of the Plutocracy of the United States of America. Not a means of economic control and suppression (although it does serve that purpose) but as a distraction from the gross inequities of wealth distribution in the United States of America.


Fixed that for you.

I used to think racist meant discriminating against people on the basis of being race. Now racism is prejudice against white.

Obama is 50% white and is called black.

Kamala is 75% white and is calling herself black.

Elizabeth Warren is 100% white and called herself Native American.

The fact that you Democrats keep lying about race shows you are the racist ones.

And Spidy keep going about my being sexist. How is that even possible when you Democratic douches cannot even define what a woman is?

EihTooms
08-04-24, 05:35
Biden or Harris? Who is the acting president now?

And your point is just a distraction. If Biden knew about the raid, it is disgusting. If he did not know about it, it is disgusting. If I am president and the FBI does not notify me about a raid of a political opponent, whoever gave the okay is fired. Period. I would demand that the DOJ be kept objective. If I am president, I call Trump myself. I tell him that NARA needs the records. I tell him to have the documents ready within 7 days. If not, I will notify the media of the noncompliance and then and only then say he could receive a SWAT raid.

Why was this done? First off, apparently the FBI had copies of all the records Trump had. So this was not about the government having records but Trump not having them. The other story was the FBI was worried Trump had records embarrassing to the FBI and the top secret thing was all a ruse. That makes sense as to why the FBI did what it did.

As far as the Biden administration being out of the loop, that is a huge stretch to believe. And if they did not know, they should have.

Here is what you want to dispute Tooms: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/10/report-joe-bidens-white-house-involved-in-raid-on-donald-trumps-mar-a-lago-residence/.

So get your fact checkers out and say this document proves nothing. What you do not get is no one on our side cares. We all think Biden was in on everything.Ok, we'll take that as No, neither Biden nor Harris sent a SWAT Team to Mar-a-Lardo.

And, technically and literally, it was not a "raid", it was a search:

Why Calling the Mar-a-Lago Search a 'Raid' Is Polarizing 'Disinformation,' in Gov. Ron DeSantis' Own Words.

https://people.com/politics/why-calling-mar-a-lago-search-raid-is-misleading-polarizing/

And, no, Trump did not die as a result of that FBI search despite his later claim that he only "nearly escaped death". He wasn't even there at the time, according to prior arrangement. And the FBI search followed the same standard procedure followed in the search of Biden's property:

FACT FOCUS: Trump distorts use of deadly force language in FBI document for Mar-a-Lago search.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-trump-fbi-maralago-search-672e97d19032de0947f108e4911f191e

Also, at this point in time, Joe Biden is still the President of the United States of America and still leading, co-ordinating and completing complex, complicated and unprecedentedly successful historic multi-national foreign policy negotiations and accomplishments as well as historic bi-partisan economic achievements no Repub and especially Trump was ever capable of accomplishing.

Meanwhile, VP Harris is involved in those as well but not in the clear and unanimously agreed upon leadership level that Biden is. She splits her time between that and chasing Donald Trump through one typically cowardly Trumpian dodge and Big Lie flaming hoop on the campaign trail. Beating him in the polls on that count, too.

EihTooms
08-04-24, 06:55
President Trump drew Full Capacity crowd with thousands++ Outside-- Didn't Hire rappers, Kid Rock, Hulkster. Didn't give away foodstamps-- -- They just came to see The Man hours early like they always do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcN9JcYwhNwSo, now rappers are refusing to appear at Trump's rallies for fear of having to submit their birth certificate, a DNA test, photos of their parents, cranium, facial and body measurement reports to The Great Race / Ethnicity / Appearance / Religion Detective, Donald J. Trump, for his approval?

Are you sure no entertainers were asked to participate just this one time or were there simply no takers willing to show up?

Sad.

Why did Trump spend so much time complaining about the swaths of empty seats in the auditorium if "every seat was filled" as that overly effusive Trump fan boy in your link claimed?

https://youtu.be/X9DeoeNitpY?si=WOoeg73USJwm1HeQ

It turns out to be much easier to lie about crowd size at those rallies when they are staged outdoors in public parks, public beaches, public fairgrounds, roadside fields, etc where passersby and daytrippers are likely to show up anyway, might be drawn by curiosity to the source of the loud music and shouting along with arial photos to "support" the claim than in those enclosed environments and venues.

But then everyone faces a higher risk of being shot and killed by a Loony Repub with an AR-15 practically bought and handed to him or her at birth thanks to Repub Party Family Values policy. So there is that major downside.

RamDavidson84
08-04-24, 06:56
Can you (or any other Putin's cocksuckers on this forum) prove that Imane Khelif was born male? If you can, I'll immediately join your discontent, I promise.

Please, take your time.LOL she failed a gender eligibility test at the 2023 world championships. You really need more proof than that? Of course after the backlash now there going to try and do damage control and try and play it off like he's just a woman with "high testosterone". Give me a break, the Olympics knew this was a guy fighting women.

EihTooms
08-04-24, 14:24
I just know actor Kevin Costner will post an open letter in Breitbart any minute now begging Trump to drop out over this.

And every pundit and anchor in Mainstream Media will surely speak of this in hushed tones of grave concern for the welfare of America every hour of every day until Trump's poll numbers take a minimal dip and the dumb Repub hillbilly donations dry up, seriously hindering down ballot Repubs' chances of competing, who will also line up to request he drop out for the sake of democracy.

Then, for the benefit of America, to Make America Great Again, Trump will finally drop out and hand the top of the ticket spot to hetero-sectional VP candidate Vance.

Right? Lolol.

Donald Trump 'Glitching' During Rally Sparks Speculation.
Aug. 4, 2024

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-glitching-during-rally-sparks-speculation-1934276


Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump,78, stumbled over phrases at a campaign rally on Saturday, sparking speculation about his cognitive abilities from critics on social media.

Speaking at a rally in Atlanta on Saturday night, the former president slurred and mispronounced "wrecking" as "reckting," "mobs" as "marbs" and said "place" instead of "police" before correcting himself.

"Together we will stop Kamala Harris' nation reckting...I'll tell you what...," he said before changing the subject, and then later "She will not stop, she said she was endorsing defund the place, and, the police, and she said violent marbs, let the violent mobs keep going."

Newsweek has contacted Trump's campaign via email for comment outside business hours.

CheckMate1
08-04-24, 15:44
Can you (or any other Putin's cocksuckers on this forum) prove that Imane Khelif was born male? If you can, I'll immediately join your discontent, I promise.

Please, take your time.Funny how a particular Russian (Putin) is so thin-skinned.

https://apnews.com/article/olympics-2024-khelif-russia-boxing-b53b1edda21139d14a572bd35ca440e6

AP laid out time tine and background to this story.

Perhaps before one regurgitates info they heard from the convict or other siloed sources, do a little google search, and look for confirmation of story from other sources.

As for footnotes:

https://www.equaldex.com/issue/changing-gender

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Algeria

Elvis 2008
08-04-24, 16:03
Ok, we'll take that as No, neither Biden nor Harris sent a SWAT Team to Mar-a-Lardo.If you think Biden did not know, I have a bridge to sell you, but you could say he was too demented to remember. I will buy that.


And, technically and literally, it was not a "raid", it was a searchAh yes, that is so much better Loony Tooms. It was a search with machine gun carrying FBI agents in plain clothes going through Melania's underwear draw.

And try as you might, you keep missing the main point. Nothing says unity like machine guns and underwear.

Elvis 2008
08-04-24, 17:25
LOL she failed a gender eligibility test at the 2023 world championships. You really need more proof than that? Of course after the backlash now there going to try and do damage control and try and play it off like he's just a woman with "high testosterone". Give me a break, the Olympics knew this was a guy fighting women.But, but, but Democrats are pro-women, pro-reproductive rights.

I was at a bar that had once of this punching machines. We were three guys and one woman. We were not a bunch of muscular types. Anyway, we men scored between 600 and 800, and the woman who was in good shape was like in the 200's.

You had an Olympic competitor who has trained for years if not decades and gets in the ring and she just quits for no reason? It is pretty obvious what happened is what she said happened. She was hit by a punch like she had never seen before like 3 X harder. What do the douches think? She is a wimp? Really?

I was on a soccer team in high school. We played the women's field hockey team and none of us had picked up a stick in our lives, and we beat them like 20 to 0. John McEnroe fell out of his chair laughing when asked if he could beat Martina Navratilova in tennis. Chris Evert was like, "Look, guys, McEnroe is not a sexist. My brother beats me all the time when we play. ".

But you look at Hollyweird and it is nauseating to see women and men fight. The women never lose. In Star Wars, the original series was about a young boy reaching his potential, having to work, being humiliated, facing his demons, smacked by reality, and then finally be triumphant. That is what it takes to be a successful man. In the second set, you saw how one guy, a decent guy, can become evil. Good stuff.

In the final set, we got the story of Rey Skywalker a woman who picks up a light saber and with no training is better than anyone. Men got so sick of these movie women who were better than men with no training, they came up with the term Becky.

You look at Princess Leia versus Rey Skywalker, and we all swooned over Princess Leia as kids. You were not watching the movies if you thought she was weak or submissive, but she was a realistic portrayal of a great woman.

Rey Skywalker? Rey is unlike any woman I know. She is a feminist fantasy, and the thing about it is if you had to pick a Becky, a Rey Skywalker in real life, you would come up with Kamala Harris. She has not earned shit. She has just showed up.

The latest scandal with Harris is that her husband fucked and got the family nanny pregnant when married to his first wife. And? Oh, you mean we are supposed to believe that a woman who sucked her way to the top is not using marriage as a political prop? This black / Indian /75% white woman is "in love" with this super white Jewish entertainment lawyer? Kamala Harris literally has no morals so I do not know why anyone would expect morals from her political prop husband. Scandal? It is what I would expect from someone marrying her.

Ram, but you got to admit that this Olympic fight is pretty symbolic. This is what is going to happen to Kamala if she steps in the ring with Xi or Putin. It is going to be that ugly. The only chance we have is if she gives them the Willie Brown treatment, but I have a feeling Putin and Xi already have way better than her.

EihTooms
08-04-24, 17:34
While President Joe Biden is still busy conceiving, spearheading, co-ordinating, leading and guiding unprecedented, difficult, nearly impossible, complex and complicated bi-partisan domestic and foreign policy negotiations and achievements, the twice impeached, multiple Felon, election fraudster, incoherently glitchy former president Donald Trump is also achieving something unprecedented that most historians thought impossible:

Ex-Trump White House officials, dozens of Republicans endorse Harris

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/04/trump-white-house-kamala-harris-election.html?__source=androidappshare


Vice President Kamala Harris campaign on Sunday flaunted over two dozen presidential endorsements from Republican party members, including some who served in former President Donald Trumps administration.

Nearly 30 GOP members were cited as part of the new Republicans for Harris initiative launched Sunday. These include Stephanie Grisham, former White House press secretary under Trump, and national security official Olivia Troye who worked as Vice President Mike Pences national security advisor. Chuck Hagel and Ray LaHood, Republican cabinet members under President Barack Obama, were also listed.

By publicly defecting on the Republican presidential nominee, these officials leave a target on their back for attacks from Trump.

"We have to purge the Party of people that go against our Candidates, and make it harder for a popular Republican President to beat the Radical Left Lunatics. Geoff Duncan is a loser who is disintegrating on his own," Trump posted on Truth Social on Saturday, referring to the former lieutenant governor of Georgia who has endorsed Harris.

The Harris campaigns new initiative targeting Republican voters comes two weeks since President Joe Biden dropped out of the presidential race and endorsed Harris. Since then, the vice president has enjoyed a groundswell of early support in the form of record donations, volunteer sign-ups and a surge in the polls closing the voter gap against Trump.

Despite Harris initial momentum, she and Trump are still in tight race that could be decided by just a slim margin of voters in November. That statistical dead-heat is why the Harris campaign is targeting undecided Republicans within who may be persuadable against their partys nominee.

"Donald Trumps MAGA extremism is toxic to the millions of Republicans who no longer believe the party of Donald Trump represents their values and will vote against him again in November," said Austin Weatherford, the Harris campaigns national director of Republican outreach, in a memo.

"Vice President Harris and our campaign are working overtime to earn the support of my fellow Republicans who care about defending democracy and restoring decency," he added.

The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.It is very likely there will be many more even more high profile former Trump Administration / White House officials and staffers endorsing Harris to follow this first wave. How could there not be? The USA Economy, domestic and international democracy, human rights and freedom depend on it.

MarquisdeSade1
08-04-24, 19:55
President Trump drew Full Capacity crowd with thousands++ Outside-- Didn't Hire rappers, Kid Rock, Hulkster. Didn't give away foodstamps-- -- They just came to see The Man hours early like they always do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcN9JcYwhNwhttps://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/david-axelrod-kalama-harris-momentum/2024/08/04/id/1175188/

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/07/29/shes-going-to-get-slaughtered-carville-says-attacks-on-kamala-are-coming/?fbclid=IwY2xjawEaEjhleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHYMFAJ5gIJOvu99azIMZ7x9iIWkxEmavr9igKDxAhGXoLXcKUcIXUdrJPA_aem_RRsLb0m19aZDe_mcOrl2-A

Where's my new motherfuckin Obamafone / Harrisfone?

Woodman09
08-04-24, 20:01
Great Clip, So Hilarious. George gets PoopiedPants a couple+ times here-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtFBQA_ThEc.

EihTooms
08-04-24, 20:32
Harris has taken the lead on Nate Silver's Bulletin and we already know she is ahead in the decisive Battleground States of WI, MI snd PA on that site:

https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

Harris has taken the lead in RealClearPolitics' 5-Way Consensus:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris-vs-kennedy-vs-stein-vs-west

And now Harris has taken the lead in WI, MI and PA on the new 538 Polling Site, with GA potentially coming on strong for her:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/

In all probability, Georgia will flip to Harris after the people in Atlanta have had a chance to fully digest what they saw and heard at her and Trump's rallies there.

Until then, gee, it doesn't seem like some of the folks here who used to post about the polls all the time are all that into it anymore.

EihTooms
08-04-24, 20:38
LOL she failed a gender eligibility test at the 2023 world championships. You really need more proof than that? Of course after the backlash now there going to try and do damage control and try and play it off like he's just a woman with "high testosterone". Give me a break, the Olympics knew this was a guy fighting women.And all of her female opponents over the years knew it too? Even the ones who defeated her in the ring?

She failed a test nobody seems to know much about, administered by an organization that got banned from the industry.

Woodman09
08-04-24, 22:01
This is kinda funny -- Dickhead Smirconich on CNN gets all triggered over black guys saying KaMaLahhh is Not Really black-.

Very LOL- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rTDvcsr7-c.

Xpartan
08-04-24, 23:49
LOL she failed a gender eligibility test at the 2023 world championships. You really need more proof than that? Of course after the backlash now there going to try and do damage control and try and play it off like he's just a woman with "high testosterone". Give me a break, the Olympics knew this was a guy fighting women.CheckMate has already answered your accusation with the links to related sources, but because some people have deep reading comprehension issues, allow me to pinpoint exactly why anyone with even half a brain would need "more proof than that".

TL; DR.

1. Khelif had been boxing for years without a hitch up until she defeated a Russian rising star Azalia Amineva (previously undefeated).

2. A few days after, Khelif was abruptly disqualified by a shady organization called IBA run by Russian national and Putin's friend Umar Kremlev.

3. Khelif's disqualification meant that Amineva retained her undefeated status.

4. In 2022, after a series of scandals, the IOS permanently banished IBA from the Olympics.


The most powerful organization in amateur boxing for decades is now governing a reduced roster of national federations while keeping up its fight with the IOC. Nearly three dozen nations, including nearly all of the prominent Western boxing teams, have taken the extraordinary step of leaving the IBA to form World Boxing, a new governing body, in a final attempt to keep boxing in the 2028 Olympics.

AIBAs final Olympic downfall was triggered about six years ago when it elected president Gafur Rakhimov, an Uzbek businessman described by the U.S. Treasury Department as an organized crime boss. Rakhimov, who denies those allegations, finally resigned in July 2019, a month after the IOC suspended ties.

The group changed its name and elected Kremlev, a Russian boxing functionary and an acquaintance of Russian President Vladimir Putin. That only made things worse between the IBA and the sections of the international boxing community not beholden to the bodys financial support, unlike many smaller boxing nations.

Kremlev introduced Russian state-controlled Gazprom as its biggest sponsor and moved much of the IBAs operations to Russia after he took over in late 2020. He also fought off a challenge to his leadership two years ago by essentially scrapping an election in highly dubious fashion.

This week, he (Kremlev) released a series of English-subtitled videos on social media packed with insults, saying the Olympics burns from pure devilry and calling Bach (IOC President) evil and urging him to resign urgently. Kremlev has ended some of them by saying hes sending Bach diapers so he doesnt soil himself, then punching the camera.What is the IBA? Governing body behind Olympic boxing storm has Russian ties, troubled history

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-is-the-iba-governing-body-behind-olympic-boxing-storm-has-russian-ties-troubled-history

Spidy
08-05-24, 04:42
I used to think racist meant discriminating against people on the basis of being race. Now racism is prejudice against white.

Obama is 50% white and is called black.

Kamala is 75% white and is calling herself black.

Elizabeth Warren is 100% white and called herself Native American.

The fact that you Democrats keep lying about race shows you are the racist ones.

And Spidy keep going about my being sexist. How is that even possible when you Democratic douches cannot even define what a woman is?

So this is the world according to QAnon/MAGA conspiracists?

--Trump is 75% orange, but sees himself as a white man (...kkkk!)
--Trump is 100% an asshole, but thinks he decent human being

Bottom line is, Obama, Veep Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren are 100% American. Period!

EihTooms
08-05-24, 05:36
If you think Biden did not know, I have a bridge to sell you, but you could say he was too demented to remember. I will buy that.

Ah yes, that is so much better Loony Tooms. It was a search with machine gun carrying FBI agents in plain clothes going through Melania's underwear draw.

And try as you might, you keep missing the main point. Nothing says unity like machine guns and underwear.Biden knew about it. Trump knew about it. You knew about it. I knew about it. Everyone knew about it.

That is what happens when you admit you have classified documents you shouldn't have, refuse a repeated request for months to return them to the rightful owners, ignore a subpoena to return them for months, instruct others to hide them from the inevitable FBI search to follow, instruct others to kill the videos of the people you instructed to hide them hiding them, are told the FBI search is coming any day now in case you'd like to now hide yourself in a basement Men's Room stall 1,100 miles away so as to "nearly escape death" and then, sure enough, the FBI show up to conduct the search following all of the usual legal requirements and procedures for a safe and effective search.

See how that works?

Nothing says disunity and disaster like endangering the lives and National Security of everyone in the Intel community and everyone in America by doing what that twice Impeached, kicked out of office, violent, cop-attacking, maiming and killing Insurrectionist mob-inciting, former president and now 34 times convicted Felon did regarding those classified documents and everything else he touched, said, did and enacted over the past 9 years.

RamDavidson84
08-05-24, 06:14
CheckMate has already answered your accusation with the links to related sources, but because some people have deep reading comprehension issues, allow me to pinpoint exactly why anyone with even half a brain would need "more proof than that".

TL; DR.

1. Khelif had been boxing for years without a hitch up until she defeated a Russian rising star Azalia Amineva (previously undefeated).

2. A few days after, Khelif was abruptly disqualified by a shady organization called IBA run by Russian national and Putin's friend Umar Kremlev.

3. Khelif's disqualification meant that Amineva retained her undefeated status.

4. In 2022, after a series of scandals, the IOS permanently banished IBA from the Olympics.

What is the IBA? Governing body behind Olympic boxing storm has Russian ties, troubled history

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-is-the-iba-governing-body-behind-olympic-boxing-storm-has-russian-ties-troubled-historyI am too lazy to look that far into this particular issue, but lets say you are right even though I believe I read she has the chromosomes and hormone profile of a man and looks extremely masculine and I still 100% believe Olympics is corrupt and controlled by Corporate America, Liberal Media, and Big Tech and they are now doing an all out damage control campaign because they realize how many people like myself will no longer be supporting the Olympics after this last fiasco in a long line of controversies.

But lets say you are right and this was a tragic case of the boy who cried wolf and this guy really is a girl. After the constant trans agenda and for years trying to get trans men to compete against women, stuff like this is going to happen. It's not like this is the first time. Olympics had to do the trans first dinner jesus picture thing to promote their agenda and give a middle finger to all christians. They brought this on themselves and now if its true this Algerian boxer is in fact a female, its the people promoting this in your face strange trans agenda bullshit who are really to blame.

And I support more acceptance for Trans people, there are obviously people born Trans and cannot help who they are. But this agenda has gone so far beyond that, especially trying to give hormones to young kids and giving athlete of the year awards to guys like Bruce Jenner just because he transitions into a female at 60 years old even though he has a family.

Just to be clear, you and tooms support letting Trans men compete against women? This is a huge part of the agenda for Democrats. This is what you support when you support Democrats.

EihTooms
08-05-24, 12:13
I am too lazy to look that far into this particular issue, but lets say you are right even though I believe I read she has the chromosomes and hormone profile of a man and looks extremely masculine and I still 100% believe Olympics is corrupt and controlled by Corporate America, Liberal Media, and Big Tech and they are now doing an all out damage control campaign because they realize how many people like myself will no longer be supporting the Olympics after this last fiasco in a long line of controversies.

But lets say you are right and this was a tragic case of the boy who cried wolf and this guy really is a girl. After the constant trans agenda and for years trying to get trans men to compete against women, stuff like this is going to happen. It's not like this is the first time. Olympics had to do the trans first dinner jesus picture thing to promote their agenda and give a middle finger to all christians. They brought this on themselves and now if its true this Algerian boxer is in fact a female, its the people promoting this in your face strange trans agenda bullshit who are really to blame.Please provide the link for where Joe Biden or any other Democrat promoted or passed a law or enacted an Executive Order requiring any school or sports organization to violate their already existing rules for separation of men from women's sports or women from men's sports in order to allow "transgender women" to compete in women's sports or "transgender men" to compete in men's sports.

Biden's position on the issue is exactly the same as yours and the same as every other Dem I am aware of. And his Executive Order establishes and maintains that same position as well:

Fact check: Posts criticizing Biden order on gender discrimination lack context.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/02/02/fact-check-biden-executive-order-discrimination-transgender-women-sports/6686171002/


Transgender athletes at college and Olympic levels

The executive order does not address athletics beyond the mention of discrimination in "school sports." Further, transgender amateur athletes already have policies they must follow in order to compete.
..........
Our ruling: Missing context

The claim that Biden's gender discrimination executive order says transgender women must be allowed to compete on women's teams is MISSING CONTEXT, based on our research. The order protects against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity and states children should not be "denied access" to "school sports." The The White House said this would include having transgender females play on women's teams. But the posts do not acknowledge that rules for transgender athletes are already in place at the college and Olympic levels, as well as in many states and school districts. Further, it is false to say any educational institution that receives federal funding must add biologically male athletes to teams. On the Algerian boxer, it is quite possible that the now banned Olympic organization that administered THEIR gender test merely looked for a Y chromosome and it was on that basis the boxer was determined to be "male. ".

However, as you can see, many women, even those with a uterus and the ability to get pregnant, long the dividing line between male and female among strict conservatives, can be tested and shown to possess a Y chromosome:

Can a person with a Y chromosome give birth to a child?

https://www.thetech.org/ask-a-geneticist/articles/2010/ask352/

MarquisdeSade1
08-05-24, 15:02
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/08/05/world/bangladesh-protests

They better not try cheating again ala 2020.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/07/briefing/bangladesh-election-hamas-gaza-japan-steel.html

Elvis 2008
08-05-24, 16:40
So this is the world according to QAnon/MAGA conspiracists?This shows how warped you are. A person posts facts to counter Democratic lies / propaganda and you do not like and so it is QAnon / conspiracy theory. This is why you are a douche. You do not have a single objective cell in you body. Democrats good, Republicans evil.


--Trump is 75% orange, but sees himself as a white man (...kkkk!)
--Trump is 100% an asshole, but thinks he decent human beingDemocrats angels, Republicans evil. Orange man bad.


Bottom line is, Obama, Veep Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren are 100% American. Period!And now you go off the deep end. You are changing the subject which is an admission you lost. And taking this to its logical conclusion. So Trump is not American? Republicans are not? I am not American?

If you feel that way, and obviously you do, YOU are not American! Why not go live in a country with one party? You would be so much happier.

Woodman09
08-05-24, 18:42
The Biden-KaMaLaaaaahhh recession Shall become a depression if the election is stolen again. A fake president KaMaLaaaahhhh will mean a world economic downturn-- Donald J Trump is our only hope-- We are in the 3rd Act.

Elvis 2008
08-05-24, 19:47
Back when I shorted oil, it took a long time for the market to get it right. The term peak oil has been erased from minds like the ridiculous Covid measures. I argued with the peak oil nuts about increasing USA oil production and most of them said it was fake. I looked at the oil workers making a bundle with the new trucks and the like. They knew it was not fake. Eventually, oil went from $100 to $20, and I made huge money but it took a long time.

So the lie is peak oil never happened, and the even bigger one is Biden's astute economic management made up for the economy being shut down 2 years. All that was done was the printing of money, and when you do that, you pay back the debt first via inflation. This recent rally made zero sense to me. How can you rally when the consumer is so much poorer? The answer that was given was AI. AI was going to make things so much more efficient. And that is literally what drove the hype train.

If Treasuries yield 5% market, fair market value is less than that as stocks are riskier. That means a yield at minimum in the stock market should be 6 to 8%, and I would say 8% given the weaker consumer and the likelihood earnings are going down. The current market has a PE of 28 which corresponds to a high 3% yield. The market should be half of what it is right now and probably less than that.

It never made sense but what would trigger a selloff? With oil, the peak oil nuts were shocked when the price of oil went down and Saudi Arabia did not cut production. In this market, I am not sure what the trigger is. Maybe it is Buffett selling so much stock. Maybe it is Nvidia not performing when it came to a delay in releasing the latest AI chip. You never know.

What I told people is you know your going to cause deaths when you shut down the economy and make everyone poorer. You have no clue whether the Covid measures are going to work. If you are a Democratic douche, you think your brilliant monetary management saved the day. You see, Elvis, we could implement the Covid measures and have no economic downturn. No, you douches just have not paid the bill and thank God that bill is coming due now.

We went $10 trillion further in debt due to a virus with 0. 2% mortality and lost trillions more due to decreased economic activity. The Covid plan ranks up there with the worst economic fuckups in our country's history.

Elvis 2008
08-05-24, 23:49
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/08/05/world/bangladesh-protests

They better not try cheating again ala 2020.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/07/briefing/bangladesh-election-hamas-gaza-japan-steel.htmlMDS, I quizzed someone on another forum about this, and he repeated the same "2020 was the safest election there ever was" nonsense. The election being stolen is a theory. I asked him what the facts were to support that theory. He could not give one. All he could do was launch personal comments about me.

You would hope all Americans would care if this election were rigged, but what I have seen from Democrats is we won so who cares? Given that attitude, it is gong to be up to Republicans to make sure the election is fair. Democrats do not care about having fair elections; they only care if they win.

FFlintstone69
08-06-24, 01:25
I am too lazy to look that far into this particular issue, but lets say you are right even though I believe I read she has the chromosomes and hormone profile of a man and looks extremely masculine and I still 100% believe Olympics is corrupt and controlled by Corporate America, Liberal Media, and Big Tech and they are now doing an all out damage control campaign because they realize how many people like myself will no longer be supporting the Olympics after this last fiasco in a long line of controversies.

But lets say you are right and this was a tragic case of the boy who cried wolf and this guy really is a girl. After the constant trans agenda and for years trying to get trans men to compete against women, stuff like this is going to happen. It's not like this is the first time. Olympics had to do the trans first dinner jesus picture thing to promote their agenda and give a middle finger to all christians. They brought this on themselves and now if its true this Algerian boxer is in fact a female, its the people promoting this in your face strange trans agenda bullshit who are really to blame.

And I support more acceptance for Trans people, there are obviously people born Trans and cannot help who they are. But this agenda has gone so far beyond that, especially trying to give hormones to young kids and giving athlete of the year awards to guys like Bruce Jenner just because he transitions into a female at 60 years old even though he has a family.

Just to be clear, you and tooms support letting Trans men compete against women? This is a huge part of the agenda for Democrats. This is what you support when you support Democrats.https://newrepublic.com/post/184271/jd-vance-trouble-blurb-book-unhumans

This looks like a must read for all the great eruditus men on this board ASAP.

The Cane
08-06-24, 02:04
Back when I shorted oil, it took a long time for the market to get it right. The term peak oil has been erased from minds like the ridiculous Covid measures. I argued with the peak oil nuts about increasing USA oil production and most of them said it was fake. I looked at the oil workers making a bundle with the new trucks and the like. They knew it was not fake. Eventually, oil went from $100 to $20, and I made huge money but it took a long time.

So the lie is peak oil never happened, and the even bigger one is Biden's astute economic management made up for the economy being shut down 2 years. All that was done was the printing of money, and when you do that, you pay back the debt first via inflation. This recent rally made zero sense to me. How can you rally when the consumer is so much poorer? The answer that was given was AI. AI was going to make things so much more efficient. And that is literally what drove the hype train.

If Treasuries yield 5% market, fair market value is less than that as stocks are riskier. That means a yield at minimum in the stock market should be 6 to 8%, and I would say 8% given the weaker consumer and the likelihood earnings are going down. The current market has a PE of 28 which corresponds to a high 3% yield. The market should be half of what it is right now and probably less than that.

It never made sense but what would trigger a selloff? With oil, the peak oil nuts were shocked when the price of oil went down and Saudi Arabia did not cut production. In this market, I am not sure what the trigger is. Maybe it is Buffett selling so much stock. Maybe it is Nvidia not performing when it came to a delay in releasing the latest AI chip. You never know.

What I told people is you know your going to cause deaths when you shut down the economy and make everyone poorer. You have no clue whether the Covid measures are going to work. If you are a Democratic douche, you think your brilliant monetary management saved the day. You see, Elvis, we could implement the Covid measures and have no economic downturn. No, you douches just have not paid the bill and thank God that bill is coming due now.

We went $10 trillion further in debt due to a virus with 0. 2% mortality and lost trillions more due to decreased economic activity. The Covid plan ranks up there with the worst economic fuckups in our country's history.The market is overvalued, and it's been so for a long, long time. We've been overdue for a major correction, but I'm not sure this is actually it. All I know is that my retirement fund is safe!

EihTooms
08-06-24, 02:25
Back when I shorted oil, it took a long time for the market to get it right. The term peak oil has been erased from minds like the ridiculous Covid measures. I argued with the peak oil nuts about increasing USA oil production and most of them said it was fake. I looked at the oil workers making a bundle with the new trucks and the like. They knew it was not fake. Eventually, oil went from $100 to $20, and I made huge money but it took a long time.

So the lie is peak oil never happened, and the even bigger one is Biden's astute economic management made up for the economy being shut down 2 years. All that was done was the printing of money, and when you do that, you pay back the debt first via inflation. This recent rally made zero sense to me. How can you rally when the consumer is so much poorer? The answer that was given was AI. AI was going to make things so much more efficient. And that is literally what drove the hype train.

If Treasuries yield 5% market, fair market value is less than that as stocks are riskier. That means a yield at minimum in the stock market should be 6 to 8%, and I would say 8% given the weaker consumer and the likelihood earnings are going down. The current market has a PE of 28 which corresponds to a high 3% yield. The market should be half of what it is right now and probably less than that.

It never made sense but what would trigger a selloff? With oil, the peak oil nuts were shocked when the price of oil went down and Saudi Arabia did not cut production. In this market, I am not sure what the trigger is. Maybe it is Buffett selling so much stock. Maybe it is Nvidia not performing when it came to a delay in releasing the latest AI chip. You never know.

What I told people is you know your going to cause deaths when you shut down the economy and make everyone poorer. You have no clue whether the Covid measures are going to work. If you are a Democratic douche, you think your brilliant monetary management saved the day. You see, Elvis, we could implement the Covid measures and have no economic downturn. No, you douches just have not paid the bill and thank God that bill is coming due now.

We went $10 trillion further in debt due to a virus with 0. 2% mortality and lost trillions more due to decreased economic activity. The Covid plan ranks up there with the worst economic fuckups in our country's history."It never made sense but what would trigger a selloff"?

Well, in this case with the solid, stable and improving economy we have under Biden, a mild sell-off like we have had so far is usually due to investors taking out some healthy profits from the multiple All Time Closing Highs we have had in the market recently. Not talking specifically about oil, of course.

Then they use those profits to buy more things. Later, when the market takes note of the good news about more things being bought, that triggers another All Time Closing High or ten in the market.

And so it goes. Been happening that way in good and healthy economies like this one since, well, since the stock market was invented.

But you will see it happening that way much, much more often during Dem economies than under Repub economies. For fairly obvious reasons.

EihTooms
08-06-24, 03:07
The Biden-KaMaLaaaaahhh recession Shall become a depression if the election is stolen again. A fake president KaMaLaaaahhhh will mean a world economic downturn-- Donald J Trump is our only hope-- We are in the 3rd Act.Just curious, what do you suppose Trump means when he tells people at his rallies that they don't have to vote because he will "win" anyway?

Trump told his fans they 'don't have to vote' and should 'watch' other voters instead.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-told-fans-new-hampshire-they-dont-have-to-vote-2023-10


"You don't have to vote, don't worry about voting," he told his New Hampshire fans.Do you think it might have something to do with this:

These Swing State Election Officials Are Pro-Trump Election Deniers.
Nearly 70 pro-Trump conspiracists are election officials in key battleground counties and they are poised to make a giant mess on Election Day.
July 29, 2024

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-swing-state-officials-election-deniers-1235069692/

You know, these are the same people who agreed with Trump that it is ok to assassinate his VP for not following his order to steal the 2020 election.

The same Felon Trump, that is, who was convicted 34 times for Conspiracy to Commit Election Fraud in a scheme to improperly influence (STEAL) the 2016 presidential election. And from the same Repub Party that was proven to have stood by and ignored enough blatantly obvious violations of the Voting Rights Act in Florida for GW Bush to steal the 2000 presidential election.

My god. Imagine what a different world we would all be living in if only those 2 elections had not been stolen:

No Attack on 9/11.

No 900+ lies by Bush-Cheney plunging us into 2 Repub counterproductive quagmire wars in the Middle East.

No Financial Crisis.

No two Bear Market Crashes in the broad USA Stock Market.

No $Trillions added to the deficit just to create 1 million fewer jobs with that Repub legislation than without it.

No failed China trade war that plunged the USA Manufacturing and Agriculture Industries into Recession so deep Trump had to issue emergency welfare checks just to keep them afloat.

No Trump's Pandemic.

No one million Americans Mass Murdered and millions more around the globe due to Trump's Pandemic Covid.

No business and school closures.

No Millions upon Millions of jobs wiped out.

No two more Bear Broad Market Crashes in the broad USA Stock Market.

No Inflation.

No skyrocketing costs of rent, food, gas, etc.

Yes, a very different world.

Xpartan
08-06-24, 07:44
I am too lazy to look that far into this particular issue, but lets say you are right even though I believe I read she has the chromosomes and hormone profile of a man and looks extremely masculine and I still 100% believe Olympics is corrupt and controlled by Corporate America, Liberal Media, and Big Tech and they are now doing an all out damage control campaign because they realize how many people like myself will no longer be supporting the Olympics after this last fiasco in a long line of controversies.

But lets say you are right and this was a tragic case of the boy who cried wolf and this guy really is a girl. After the constant trans agenda and for years trying to get trans men to compete against women, stuff like this is going to happen. It's not like this is the first time. Olympics had to do the trans first dinner jesus picture thing to promote their agenda and give a middle finger to all christians. They brought this on themselves and now if its true this Algerian boxer is in fact a female, its the people promoting this in your face strange trans agenda bullshit who are really to blame.

And I support more acceptance for Trans people, there are obviously people born Trans and cannot help who they are. But this agenda has gone so far beyond that, especially trying to give hormones to young kids and giving athlete of the year awards to guys like Bruce Jenner just because he transitions into a female at 60 years old even though he has a family.

Just to be clear, you and tooms support letting Trans men compete against women? This is a huge part of the agenda for Democrats. This is what you support when you support Democrats.First, your personal opinion about an issue in general doesn't give you the right to accuse people. Your mockery of Khelif was mean-spirited and uncalled for.

Second, up until recently I too held an opinion that trans athletes shouldn't be allowed to compete against women. However, I was presented with real-life facts by another member that changed my opinion. After digging into this some more, I do believe now that this is a non-issue blown way out of proportion by conservative ideologists who grabbed a chance to wind up the troops.

If you weren't lazy, you could find our dialogue somewhere in this thread. But alas.

SubCmdr
08-06-24, 10:05
MDS, I quizzed someone on another forum about this, and he repeated the same "2020 was the safest election there ever was" nonsense. The election being stolen is a theory. I asked him what the facts were to support that theory.Pretty obvious you did not ask me. I return to the source document: The Constitution of the United States of America.

Amendment Twelve to the Constitution was ratified on June 15,1804. It revises and outlines the procedure of how Presidents and Vice Presidents are elected, specifically so that they are elected together.

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;


Article II Section 1

"The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows: Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector."

There is no room in this document for the Supreme Court of the United States to make a ruling like they did. They did not have the right to make the decision. That is a fact. The Constitution of the United States does not allow the Supreme Court to decide who the next President of the United States should be. Especially on a split decision. The mere fact that 7 of the 9 justices decided to hear the case means only that 2 knew and understood the role of the court in this pivotal moment in history. Congress should have impeached the 5 judges who were in the majority.The 43 president of the United States of America was inappropriately granted the presidency by the United States Supreme Court. They should have stayed out of it. Instead they decided to to pick the next head of the branch of the executive for the United States Government.

Separation of Powers Doctrine

Over the course of our history, the Supreme Court has elaborated on the separation-of-powers doctrine in several cases addressing the three branches of government. At times, the Court has determined that one branchs actions have infringed upon the core functions of another.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/intro.7-2/ALDE_00000031/

There is noting more core than the selection of the President of the United States of America. The Supreme Court violated the Separation of Powers Doctrine when they awarded the presidency to #43. The election was stolen from the American People.


You would hope all Americans would care if this election were rigged, but what I have seen from Democrats is we won so who cares? Given that attitude, it is gong to be up to Republicans to make sure the election is fair. Democrats do not care about having fair elections; they only care if they win.I did not see any Republican outcry when #43 was elected.

MarquisdeSade1
08-06-24, 13:01
MDS, I quizzed someone on another forum about this, and he repeated the same "2020 was the safest election there ever was" nonsense. The election being stolen is a theory. I asked him what the facts were to support that theory. He could not give one. All he could do was launch personal comments about me.

You would hope all Americans would care if this election were rigged, but what I have seen from Democrats is we won so who cares? Given that attitude, it is gong to be up to Republicans to make sure the election is fair. Democrats do not care about having fair elections; they only care if they win.Even (especially) to cheaters, like the CBS poll this week, they are trying to rig the outcome early by pretending it is already close.

So when "election day" rolls around they can try to make it more plausible that Harris won ala Scumbag Joe in 2020 or JFK in 1960.

Same thing with exit polls those are the easiest to rig, they can report any numbers they want ala Caracas last week.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1d10453zno

The balls of Scumbag Joe to call others cheaters, they truly are shameless scumbags!!

Elvis 2008
08-06-24, 14:12
The market is overvalued, and it's been so for a long, long time. We've been overdue for a major correction, but I'm not sure this is actually it. All I know is that my retirement fund is safe!There are a lot of markers freaking people out with supposedly 100% accurate measures of recession: the surge in the unemployment percentage, the unwinding of the inverted yield curve, and on a practical level a guy on CNBC said consumer balance sheets were never worse. I did know the consumer is in more debt than ever. On the flip side, there was calm. Things are not as bad as 2008, and I think what was weird is everyone was bringing up different reasons for the fall.

I really did not understand the yen carry trade at first. Apparently, speculators are borrowing in yen at lower rates and then buying things with higher yields. That is fine unless the yen appreciates and I think it went up 12% so if you are levered at 10:1, that increase literally put you under water unless what you bought went way up in price. That is probably the best explanation for the sell off I have seen.

But yeah, I am not sure it is here either. Usually October is the worst month for crashes.

Elvis 2008
08-06-24, 14:22
https://newrepublic.com/post/184271/jd-vance-trouble-blurb-book-unhumans

This looks like a must read for all the great eruditus men on this board ASAP.These are the first two paragraphs of the article: Republican vice presidential nominee J. The. Vance has found himself yet again in hot water, after it was uncovered that he promoted a book decrying progressives as "unhuman," written by a far-right conspiracy theorist.

Unhumans: The Secret History of Communist Revolutions (and How to Crush Them) was written by the Pizzagate guy, Jack Posobiec, and ghostwriter Joshua Lisec, with a foreword by the recently imprisoned MAGA movement architect Steve Bannon.

I stopped right there. This is another Democratic douche let's get offended trope. It is a fucking book. On the other hand, Democratic douches are cool with making up laws to criminally convict their opposition, throwing out the votes of their nominee, a literal coup in the party, machine gun wielding FBI agents at the house of the ex-president, and the made up Russiagate among others.

And the Democratic douche vax rhetoric may have been the worse. People who are not vaxxed should be denied medical care and allowed to die. That IS unhuman.

The whole thing reads like a Spidy post: insult after insult and no information. If Spidy does not write for the New Republic, he should. They would love him there.

MarquisdeSade1
08-06-24, 15:18
Just curious, what do you suppose Trump means when he tells people at his rallies that they don't have to vote because he will "win" anyway?

Trump told his fans they 'don't have to vote' and should 'watch' other voters instead.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-told-fans-new-hampshire-they-dont-have-to-vote-2023-10

Do you think it might have something to do with this:

These Swing State Election Officials Are Pro-Trump Election Deniers.
Nearly 70 pro-Trump conspiracists are election officials in key battleground counties and they are poised to make a giant mess on Election Day.
July 29, 2024.No failed China trade war? Why is it failed? Because you are anti America and pro China?

I see you are still upset we didn't get that 3rd and 4th term of Bubba, that wanted TPP would still be in effect if not for Our Lord and Savior.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/business/china-hate-speech-xenophobia.html

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/4-us-college-instructors-local-tourist-injured-in-china-knife-attack/3246270

Yes the Chinese are livid because the jig is up.

Yes they are so angry because the trade war against them failed..

CheckMate1
08-06-24, 17:17
My god. Imagine what a different world we would all be living in if only those 2 elections had not been stolen:

No Attack on 9/11.

No 900+ lies by Bush-Cheney plunging us into 2 Repub counterproductive quagmire wars in the Middle East.

No Financial Crisis.

No two Bear Market Crashes in the broad USA Stock Market.

No $Trillions added to the deficit just to create 1 million fewer jobs with that Repub legislation than without it.

No failed China trade war that plunged the USA Manufacturing and Agriculture Industries into Recession so deep Trump had to issue emergency welfare checks just to keep them afloat.

No Trump's Pandemic.

No one million Americans Mass Murdered and millions more around the globe due to Trump's Pandemic Covid.

No business and school closures.

No Millions upon Millions of jobs wiped out.

No two more Bear Broad Market Crashes in the broad USA Stock Market.

No Inflation.

No skyrocketing costs of rent, food, gas, etc.

Yes, a very different world.1. Disagree: 9/11 may still have happened. Bin Laden planned the attacks for many years before it was executed. To say that this would not happen is a reach.

2. Agree: I don't think that a Gore administration would have pushed into Iraq, as history unfold. My OPINION / Speculation is that Bush / Cheney wanted to go into Iraq, and this slim opening gave them their excuse to go in.

3. Disagree: At the end of the milennium, there were weaknesses in the financial markets, mainly dot com bubble that would still have happened. One can blame the previous administration for this situation to happen due to new technologies without guardrails. *catch-22* can't advance innovations without unleashing technology / to prevent fraud and implosion ("regulations") is needed. Same discussion as pertain to crypto today. It isn't whether we should have regulations or not, but rather how much.

4. One of the two would have happened. The second one (Housing) still may have happened. Although the Bush administration pushed for home ownership, I didn't see the push back from the other side either.

5. Agree: At the end of the Clinton era, there was a surplus that would have extended under Gore. Instead of maintaining it for a rainy day, it was given back to the market / tax cuts. By itself, it wasn't harmful, but with the bubble and unpaid wars, a perfect storm for deficit, and its continuation.

Disagree: No Inflation is a myth, in any era. Carter / Regan was the beginning of the hyper inflation era, Clinton administration / Feds masked the problem with the change in calculating inflation, taking out food and energy. Gingrich was the speaker at the time, so can't claim victory on any sides.

https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/current_issues/ci2-4.pdf

Like all sci-fi movies (time travel), yes it would be different, but not everything is rainbows and unicorns.

Woodman09
08-06-24, 17:45
Walls remind me of the weak characters in Fargo-.

Interesting analysis about Tim Walls-- from a Black Conservative Perserspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0Ah6YKevaQ

EihTooms
08-06-24, 19:20
1. Disagree: 9/11 may still have happened. Bin Laden planned the attacks for many years before it was executed. To say that this would not happen is a reach.

2. Agree: I don't think that a Gore administration would have pushed into Iraq, as history unfold. My OPINION / Speculation is that Bush / Cheney wanted to go into Iraq, and this slim opening gave them their excuse to go in.

3. Disagree: At the end of the milennium, there were weaknesses in the financial markets, mainly dot com bubble that would still have happened. One can blame the previous administration for this situation to happen due to new technologies without guardrails. *catch-22* can't advance innovations without unleashing technology / to prevent fraud and implosion ("regulations") is needed. Same discussion as pertain to crypto today. It isn't whether we should have regulations or not, but rather how much.

4. One of the two would have happened. The second one (Housing) still may have happened. Although the Bush administration pushed for home ownership, I didn't see the push back from the other side either.

5. Agree: At the end of the Clinton era, there was a surplus that would have extended under Gore. Instead of maintaining it for a rainy day, it was given back to the market / tax cuts. By itself, it wasn't harmful, but with the bubble and unpaid wars, a perfect storm for deficit, and its continuation.

Disagree: No Inflation is a myth, in any era. Carter / Regan was the beginning of the hyper inflation era, Clinton administration / Feds masked the problem with the change in calculating inflation, taking out food and energy. Gingrich was the speaker at the time, so can't claim victory on any sides.

https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibrary/media/research/current_issues/ci2-4.pdf

Like all sci-fi movies (time travel), yes it would be different, but not everything is rainbows and unicorns.- The difference between the seriousness with which Clinton and his Administration regarded and responded to Intel on potential terrorist attacks re Presidential Daily Briefings, for one, and the way GW Bush and his administration virtually shrugged it off and dismissed it was shocking. Imo, the way the Counter Terrorism Chief who worked for both testified in the 9/11 hearings is most telling. It didn't even require much push back and response to possible domestic terrorist attack "chatter" to get the bad guys to abandon the idea, as happened under Clinton. By stark contrast, Bush and Rice did nothing in response to the rather specific PDB intel prior to 9/11.

https://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/24/911.commission/index.html

- The Financial Crisis hit almost 8 years after Clinton left office. The huge wave of Subprime / Liar Loans did not begin under Clinton. There were practically no more floated than usual under Clinton. However, they flourished under Bush. And in large part for a reason you alluded to; home ownership increased under GW Bush. In fact, it was about the only notable economic "gain" Bush could point to during his "jobless" economy. No way was his Treasury Department's Office of Thrift Supervision going to get in there and demand banks and lending institutions enforce the non Liar Loan regulations that were on the books and spoil that one and only Bush Economy goose laying a sort of but illusery golden egg. Especially since enforcing regulations on anything, particularly banks, is anathema to Repub economic philosophy.

In short, Clinton's Treasury Department did its job because they knew the boss expected them to do its job while Bush's Treasury Department did not do its job because they knew the boss did not even want it to do its job.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_George_W._Bush_administration

There was little push back by members of Congress simply because Bush's Office of Thrift Supervision, whose job it was to monitor and report on those things, not Congress, was telling Congress everything is fine, nothing to see here.

- I would say hyper-Inflation began under Nixon / Ford. Ford's way of dealing with it was to encourage everyone to wear WIN lapel buttons; Whip Inflation Now.

Carter's Fed Chairman appointee, Paul Volcker, was vetted by Carter and appointed in late 1979 precisely because he was willing to do the unpopular thing in order to tame it; raise Fed Funds Rates, same as the Fed Chair Powell this time around. And Carter was willing for him to do it during an election year. By early 1980, almost a year before Reagan took office, Volcker's methods were already working and Inflation (and lending interest rates) was beginning to decline and continued to decline into Reagan's first year in office. No, not in a straight line month after month. Nothing works that way. But the downward trend had definitely begun in early 1980 and continued in that direction over the next 3+ years.

Anyway, I am not saying there would have been no ordinary and normal inflation had Trump not made every decision a World Leader ought to make if his goal was to produce a Pandemic. I am talking about the elevated level of inflation the world experienced as an unavoidable outcome of it.

https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/

Spidy
08-06-24, 20:25
Back when I shorted oil, it took a long time for the market to get it right. {...yada, yada, yada}

Yes, thank you for yet another thrilling, episode of your market genius! Riveting as always!


What I told people is you know your going to cause deaths when you shut down the economy and make everyone poorer. ...

We went $10 trillion further in debt due to a virus with 0. 2% mortality and lost trillions more due to decreased economic activity. The Covid plan ranks up there with the worst economic fuckups in our country's history. Yeah, okay sensei, calm down with the COVID market conspiracies,...it's just the market signaling to the FED, a rate cut is long overdue and perhaps a little profit taking.

As I've said before, "Even the sun shines up a dog's ass some days". But in YOUR case, you've been calling for a market crash and economic recession, for almost the last 4 years now. And you've been WRONG every time!

So the sun hasn't exactly shone much up your ass for four years. But I'm sure, if you say it long enough and often enough...that sun will surely shine some day! (....kkkk!)

FFlintstone69
08-07-24, 00:26
(...kkkk!) More gish gallop, served up to say nothing at all. However, you might be right about "Democrats good, Republicans evil", if you say so.

Hey, just saying, orange is just not a good look on most dudes (see below), save George Hamilton or Ashoka, Togruta Jedi Padawan! (...kkkk!)



YOUR obvious failure to realize YOUR own "color-blind" rhetoric of division from your post, that Trump and Repubs sow everyday, is just more evidence of the pitiful failure to see all legal peoples and citizens no matter their color, as Americans. PERIOD!

I'll let your own Repub, Sen. Lisa Murkowski, tell you, in her own words:

"Think about it", Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) told reporters Wednesday. "What have we been talking about all week long? Childless cat women, DEI candidates. Now is she black? Is she Indian?" ... "Maybe they don't know how to handle the campaign. And so you default to issues that should simply not be an issue."

Senate Republicans forgot Trump's recklessness. It's back to haunt them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/03/trump-senate-republicans-race/
Over the last several weeks, Repubs have constantly tried to get Trump to talk about administrative plans and policies for a future America (other than Project 2025, which he denies), but since he has no vision for America (other than his next grift), good ol' Trump reverts back to his rut of misogyny and racism. In other words his comfort zone of issues.Do you know how she got that Senate seat?

And to bust you on more of your bullshit.

I dare you to show us you didn't pull this out of your ass like everything else you subject us to with your keyboard diarrhea.

"Trump is an American Hitler" cmon be a big boy LMAO.

Elvis 2008
08-07-24, 02:47
So this is the world according to QAnon/MAGA conspiracists?

--Trump is 75% orange, but sees himself as a white man (...kkkk!)
--Trump is 100% an asshole, but thinks he decent human being

Bottom line is, Obama, Veep Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren are 100% American. Period!I thought the point of moderation was to protect people from fighting or being personally disparaging. Well, on this forum, it is literally promoting the Democratic POV. Shoot, if you are going to erase my post, then you should erase the one linked to it as well. You Dems cannot even censor right. You are so paranoid you are censoring politics on a hooker board? Somebody needs to get laid.

I know the incredibly objective George Stephanopoulos went on this idiotic rant with a black Congressman when Trump questioned Kamala's race. It was painful to see a white guy so offended on this topic. Hey, George, her fucking own birth certificate says she is 75% white, and she says that she is black and before she said she was Indian. And now your sex is a preference too?

It is funny that some of the whitest guys I know got genetic testing done and the results showed they were 1 or 2% black. Can they say they are black? Or black women?

What is so funny is this is what Kamala is running on, identity. How can we be racist when we do not what black is? How can we be sexist when we do not know what women are? What the hell do diversion and sexual equality even mean now?

I will make it easy for everyone. If you are Republican, you are racist and sexist, and we Democrats do not have to define what those terms mean. In fact, asking us to define those terms is proof you are racist and sexist. My God, you are so offensive, Elvis.

Huacho
08-07-24, 02:51
There are a lot of markers freaking people out with supposedly 100% accurate
measures of recession: the surge in the unemployment percentage, the unwinding of the inverted yield curveAn inverted yield curve often precedes a recession, and its unwinding does not. See, for example:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-longest-inverted-yield-curve-in-u-s-history-may-end-soon-what-it-means-for-stocks/ar-AA1oeOdb?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=f45c9d89cadd48cbb65d9cd9b72e4af4&ei=31

"The financial market's top recession warning, the inverted yield curve, looks ready to end its record stretch of flashing a warning signal. ".

Or: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_yield_curve.

"It has often been said that the inverted yield curve has been one of the most reliable leading indicators for economic recession during the post–World War II era. ".

Or: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_yield_curve.

"The inverted curve reflects bond investors' expectations for a decline in longer-term interest rates, a view typically associated with recessions. ".

As to unemployment rates and recessions, even neocons like the "Sahm Rule," where you look at the three month moving average and not a random spike. But what you, personally (and others of your ilk), probably need to look at when deciding if "Democrats are douches" is probably the growth in real GDP during are administrations and the administrations. Here's your data source; let's see what you come up with.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDPC1/

Hint: you lose!

EihTooms
08-07-24, 03:30
No failed China trade war? Why is it failed? Because you are anti America and pro China?

I see you are still upset we didn't get that 3rd and 4th term of Bubba, that wanted TPP would still be in effect if not for Our Lord and Savior.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/04/business/china-hate-speech-xenophobia.html

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/4-us-college-instructors-local-tourist-injured-in-china-knife-attack/3246270

Yes the Chinese are livid because the jig is up.

Yes they are so angry because the trade war against them failed..What did Trump's tax on American consumers and plunging the American Manufacturing and Agriculture Industries into Recession so deep he had to add billions more to the deficit by issuing emergency welfare checks just to keep them afloat accomplish for America?

How about zero.

On top of which it is highly likely that the reason Chinese anus-licker Trump defunded and removed those Early Warning Pandrmic Prevention teams from those Chinese labs in 2018 and 2019 contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid was simply to flatter Xi's ego in the midst of those failed negotiations that, "Oh, don't worry, Master. See? We trust you and your people to be honest actors and responsible to alert the world ASAP if any deadly virus begins to spread in and around your research labs. We trust you. ".

Which was exactly the wrong thing to do with the wrong people at the wrong time. A Trump specialty. Trump's Pandemic was created precisely because, AS EXPECTED, Xi and his people kept the spread of that virus and their knowledge of its virulence a secret for a few critical weeks until it was no longer possible to confine it to one region in China.

Thanks to your lord and savior Trump.

China bought none of the extra $200 billion of US exports in Trump's trade deal

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2022/china-bought-none-extra-200-billion-us-exports-trumps-trade-deal

SubCmdr
08-07-24, 03:43
"It never made sense but what would trigger a selloff"?Really very simple, the Yen got stronger. Dollar got weaker in relationship to a huge trading partner. 20 Trillion in carry trades are being unwound. It's worse than the final scene out of trading places.

12% Sell off in TriFi. 30% Sell Off of BTC. Few days later BTC back to 56 K where it was a couple of weeks ago. This is normal volatility for those ACTUALLY familiar with markets. If you had correct positions sizes, investments within your range of risk tolerance good risk management strategies they its all good. NVDA is down but AMD is up. That is the market. Go Figure.

Scared money don't make no money!

MarquisdeSade1
08-07-24, 13:52
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/07/opinion/kamala-harris-google-antitrust.html

EihTooms
08-07-24, 14:39
An inverted yield curve often precedes a recession, and its unwinding does not. See, for example:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-longest-inverted-yield-curve-in-u-s-history-may-end-soon-what-it-means-for-stocks/ar-AA1oeOdb?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=f45c9d89cadd48cbb65d9cd9b72e4af4&ei=31

"The financial market's top recession warning, the inverted yield curve, looks ready to end its record stretch of flashing a warning signal. ".

Or: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_yield_curve.

"It has often been said that the inverted yield curve has been one of the most reliable leading indicators for economic recession during the postWorld War II era.Exactly. The fact that more than 5% of any poll respondents could possibly conclude that Repubs are "better at handling the economy" than Dems, particularly Biden vs Trump, is simply a testament to how effective Mainstream Media's constant elevating of Repub failures vs denigrating Dem successes has been.

BTW, I highlighted in bold your accurate and fully substantiated point about R vs D economic growth because I have found that is the best way that I know of to override the auto-correct feature on this site when we use initials in that way.

Elvis 2008
08-07-24, 19:31
An inverted yield curve often precedes a recession, and its unwinding does not. Hint: you lose!I want to make sure I have this right and where we are now in your opinion. So what you are saying, and correct me if I am wrong, is that the inverted yield curve WAS a huge negative but now that it is no longer inverted, we have nothing but sunny skies in front of us.

Is that right?

Of course, there is another possibility right? That we are in a recession right now and you do not know that we are.

https://mishtalk.com/economics/all-hell-breaks-loose-in-the-next-few-months-as-recession-bites/

Again, this does not matter to me. An inverted yield curve preceding recession is a trend not a fact. It just means the big boys in the bond market have not been wrong when predicting recession. There is no guarantee their perfect record holds up.

EihTooms
08-08-24, 03:52
The demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics polling site has now followed their painfully reluctant decision to move Michigan away from Trump's side and into Harris' side with another painfully reluctant decision to move Wisconsin away from Trump's side and into Harris' side on their No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Can Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, etc be far behind? It is difficult to find a non +blue poll result on those Trump vs Harris polls these days.

BTW, why isn't Trump campaigning anywhere lately?

Covid?

Is he just too old and too tired?

Can't fill a stadium as fully as Harris does? (See photo below of the Philly arenas, Trump vs Harris. So many empty seats for Trump).

No more money to buy free hats, free beer and food for his rally attendees?

No reason to bother considering he is planning on his Fake Electors, Cheating State Election MAGAs mission to create chaos when certifying the votes and the always reliable Loony Repub MAGA 6 on the Supreme Court coming through for him to overthrow American democracy no matter what?

The perennial poor put-upon "victim" baby Donald "My Daddy Handed Me Billions and I Blew It" Trump is always coming up with some pathetic excuse.

Huacho
08-08-24, 08:51
I want to make sure I have this right and where we are now in your opinion. So what you are saying, and correct me if I am wrong, You're wrong. That's not what I said. I said that an inverted yield curve, and not reversal of an inverted yield curve, is what's considered by many to be a harbinger of recession. Your issues with reading comprehension really hold back your critical thinking skills (such as they are).

Huacho
08-08-24, 09:08
You are douches because you do not understand what an inverted yield curve means.I wonder how I managed to teach finance at the university level, be a federally registered investment advisor, a CPA for twenty years, and work on a currency futures trading desk without knowing that. My graduate level Investment Strategies and Portfolio Management, and in Fixed Income Investments probably just didn't cover yield curves, or expectations theory, or liquidity preference theory. I must be a real douche. I'm probably even more of a douche because I don't try to time or beat the market, or think that I can. So I don't care about short term noise like the yield curve, the business cycle, or whether we are or are not, or will or will not be, in a recession.

My point on GDP being higher under Dems' regimes is not based on its effects on 'the market. ' It is based on its effects on society overall.

Spidy
08-08-24, 09:14
There is a special place in hell for those that Cheerlead for the butchering of babies.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/08/07/tim-walz-said-he-is-so-pro-abortion-nancy-pelosi-suggested-he-tone-it-down/
...
You might be right...you may very well be right!

As you've told us on many occasions, that you were taught by the good catholic nuns, I can only assume, you would definitely know more about "special places in hell", than I. So I will have to defer to you on this one?

But as the saying goes, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but the road to heaven is full of good deeds"

Under the Harris/Walz campaign, consider some of the following "heavenly good deeds", making better lives for Americans and their families:

--freedom from abortion bans, IVF or contraception bans
--freedom and control over your own body and government interference
--freedom to equality of Human, WOMEN and LBGTQ rights
--affordable health care
--affordable prescription drugs
--affordable housing
--affordable child care/Rearing
--affordable school tuition
--help/assistance with cost of living (for those who need it)
--right to a living wage
--paid leave

AND

--better border security
--no tax cuts or tax reform for the rich and wealthy billionaire elites and companies
--continued support for Ukraine
--sustained jobs in manufacturing, tech, AI, auto, renewable energy ...etc

These are some of the important issues that the Dems are tackling and confronting, that Americans want addressed from their elected government.

But what the hell issues, important to Americans are Repubs talking about?
--More tax cuts for the billionaires?
--Is Veep Harris 50% Black or 70% Indian?
--OMG, Why isn't Usha Chilukuri Vance, JD Vance's wife, white?

Just one culture war issue after another. The majority of Americans don't want another Repub administration hell bent on, 4 more years of culture war nonsense. And that is why Repubs will lose the popular vote (again) and why Repubs, will come to lose in "ROEvember"

So which "road" do you think the Repubs are on?

MarquisdeSade1
08-08-24, 11:14
You might be right...you may very well be right!

As you've told us on many occasions, that you were taught by the good catholic nuns, I can only assume, you would definitely know more about "special places in hell", than I. So I will have to defer to you on this one?

But as the saying goes, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but the road to heaven is full of good deeds"

Under the Harris/Walz campaign, consider some of the following "heavenly good deeds", making better lives for Americans and their families:

--freedom from abortion bans, IVF or contraception bans
--freedom and control over your own body and government interference
--freedom to equality of Human, WOMEN and LBGTQ rights
--affordable health care
--affordable prescription drugs
--affordable housing
--affordable child care/Rearing
--affordable school tuition
--help/assistance with cost of living (for those who need it)
--right to a living wage
--paid leave

AND

--better border security
--no tax cuts or tax reform for the rich and wealthy billionaire elites and companies
--continued support for Ukraine
--sustained jobs in manufacturing, tech, AI, auto, renewable energy ...etc

These are some of the important issues that the Dems are tackling and confronting, that Americans want addressed from their elected government.

But what the hell issues, important to Americans are Repubs talking about?
--More tax cuts for the billionaires?
--Is Veep Harris 50% Black or 70% Indian?
--OMG, Why isn't Usha Chilukuri Vance, JD Vance's wife, white?

Just one culture war issue after another. The majority of Americans don't want another Repub administration hell bent on, 4 more years of culture war nonsense. And that is why Repubs will lose the popular vote (again) and why Repubs, will come to lose in "ROEvember"

So which "road" do you think the Repubs are on?You still want to list the butchering of babies under "heavenly good deeds".

I believe moral people everywhere, believe stopping the butchering of innocent babies supersedes anything else you listed!!

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112887108527191005

But you want to still Cheerlead for more of it with your ROEvember phrase?

https://nrlc.org/uploads/factsheets/FS01AbortionintheUS.pdf

BTW not incidentally I am an ardent atheist.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/antisemitism-israel-hamas/2024/08/07/id/1175608/

The Democratic party is the party of hate, they hate whites they hate Jews they hate Christians they hate anyone hetero.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-08-07/liberation-dildo-mormon-story

And "better border security" more full of shit double speak WTF you're a joke!!

Your sophistry is quite unimpressive I see you wouldn't correct your making up the JDV Hitler quote, COWARD!!

Now you want to intentionally conflate his wife being Indian and not white? Really who said she's white? Who said she's black? She says what she is, and that's what she is, not a fake race grifter / race hustler / race con artist like Harris.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112887108527191005

https://www.google.com/search?q=rachel+dolez&rlz=1 CAZJQH_enID1051&oq=rachel+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggAEEUYOzIGCAAQRRg7 MgYIARBFGDkyBggCEEUYPNIBCDQzNzRqMGo3 qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.

MarquisdeSade1
08-08-24, 11:50
In his first interview since ending his re-election bid, President Biden expressed doubt Wednesday that there would be a peaceful transfer of power if former President Donald Trump wins the 2024 election.

"If Trump wins, no, I'm not confident at all," the 81-year-old president told "CBS News Sunday Morning".

EihTooms
08-08-24, 15:30
In his first interview since ending his re-election bid, President Biden expressed doubt Wednesday that there would be a peaceful transfer of power if former President Donald Trump wins the 2024 election.

"If Trump wins, no, I'm not confident at all," the 81-year-old president told "CBS News Sunday Morning".You know he immediately corrected himself and said, "I mean, if Trump loses", right?

EihTooms
08-08-24, 15:40
No love for the Presidential Betting Odds anymore?

They are still available and accessible for review. Don't worry, they can flip-flop from one extreme to the other on a dime, much like Shady Pants, I mean J.D. Vance's opinion of Donald Trump:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Elvis 2008
08-08-24, 16:14
I wonder how I managed to teach finance at the university level, be a federally registered investment advisor, a CPA for twenty years, and work on a currency futures trading desk without knowing that. My graduate level Investment Strategies and Portfolio Management, and in Fixed Income Investments probably just didn't cover yield curves, or expectations theory, or liquidity preference theory. I must be a real douche. I'm probably even more of a douche because I don't try to time or beat the market, or think that I can. So I don't care about short term noise like the yield curve, the business cycle, or whether we are or are not, or will or will not be, in a recession.And? Why did you lock yourself up when a virus with a 0. 2% mortality came around? Because you were afraid and what you do not get is that is the time the real money is to be made when others are afraid. How many times have I said I cleaned up in the pussy market when you locked yourself away? So a guy like you is better off teaching shit like Efficient-market hypothesis and claiming all great investors are lucky. Big deal. Yes, by all means, someone with your emotional temperament should not try not to beat the market. The only that bugs me is professors like you telling people that anyone who does beat the market is lucky.


You're wrong. That's not what I said. I said that an inverted yield curve, and not reversal of an inverted yield curve, is what's considered by many to be a harbinger of recession. Your issues with reading comprehension really hold back your critical thinking skills (such as they are).Just stop with the nonsense. I quoted what others were saying as to why the market came down, and you feel inferior, and you should after locking yourself up while I was out having the time of my life, you want to prove you are right and I was wrong. I was mentioning to Cane what I was reading and hearing. Hell, I did not even look at bond yields myself until now. https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/rates-bonds/government-bonds/us.

The 3 months are paying 5. 22% yield and the 5 year is at 3. 85%. The yield curve is still inverted, so the person I quoted was getting ahead of himself.


My point on GDP being higher under Dems' regimes is not based on its effects on 'the market. ' It is based on its effects on society overall.LOL. Well, teach, you could have made the point that one of Warren Buffet's indicators, the market cap to GDP ratio, was at an all time high. https://www.longtermtrends.net/market-cap-to-gdp-the-buffett-indicator/

SubCmdr
08-08-24, 16:27
I will make it easy for everyone. If you are Republican, you are racist and sexist, Elvis.Well you have stated the obvious and this is well know. Time for me to bet long shot or buy a lottery ticket. Because I actually agree with you.

CheckMate1
08-08-24, 19:21
I am not even gonna try to make sense of that schizophrenic indignant rant, to Admin.

FYI, I believe Admin had initially censored correctly and deleted both our posts. Not sure why the initial posts were removed by Admin, I had just chalked it up to Admin just doing their job and administering however they see fit.

Look, no one likes their posts being removed or deleted, but most ISGers follow the guidelines of civil conduct and don't have too much of a problem when Admin steps in.

But too suggest Admin was picking sides or is some kind of DEI hire, I think, is just YOU BEING delusional with a side of order of schizophrenic paranoia.

Carry On!Spidy,

Sad to see a person with so much piss and vinegar play the card. Maybe he should ask Elon to buy this and release his insightful rants.

MarquisdeSade1
08-08-24, 19:22
You know he immediately corrected himself and said, "I mean, if Trump loses", right?He deliberately put it out there and then he later said, I mean if he loses, yeah right.

You can't take some things back and say that's not what I meant.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/trump-inauguration-protests-womens-march/index.html

Here are some baby butchers for you, making some money off their EVIL.

https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-news/undercover-video-allegedly-shows-planned-parenthood-scandal/

Lets hear it from all you fans!!

MarquisdeSade1
08-08-24, 19:23
Spidy,

Sad to see a person with so much piss and vinegar play the card. Maybe he should ask Elon to buy this and release his insightful rants.That ISG is akin to how Twitter used to be so one sided.

MarquisdeSade1
08-08-24, 19:32
Spidy,

Sad to see a person with so much piss and vinegar play the card. Maybe he should ask Elon to buy this and release his insightful rants.Just ask Walz the baby butcher of Minnesota.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/re-tim-walz-made-it-legal-to-coerce-women-into-abortions/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=blog-post&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=top-bar-latest&utm_term=fifth

EihTooms
08-08-24, 20:36
You still want to list the butchering of babies under "heavenly good deeds".

I believe moral people everywhere, believe stopping the butchering of innocent babies supersedes anything else you listed!!

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112887108527191005

But you want to still Cheerlead for more of it with your ROEvember phrase?

https://nrlc.org/uploads/factsheets/FS01AbortionintheUS.pdf

BTW not incidentally I am an ardent atheist.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/antisemitism-israel-hamas/2024/08/07/id/1175608/

The Democratic party is the party of hate, they hate whites they hate Jews they hate Christians they hate anyone hetero.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2024-08-07/liberation-dildo-mormon-story

And "better border security" more full of shit double speak WTF you're a joke!!

Your sophistry is quite unimpressive I see you wouldn't correct your making up the JDV Hitler quote, COWARD!!

Now you want to intentionally conflate his wife being Indian and not white? Really who said she's white? Who said she's black? She says what she is, and that's what she is, not a fake race grifter / race hustler / race con artist like Harris.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112887108527191005

https://www.google.com/search?q=rachel+dolez&rlz=1 CAZJQH_enID1051&oq=rachel+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggAEEUYOzIGCAAQRRg7 MgYIARBFGDkyBggCEEUYPNIBCDQzNzRqMGo3 qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8.Even when the media generously bend over backwards every which way to ignore Trump's critical and singular role in laying the groundwork for, creating and exacerbating Trump's Pandemic, they can not ignore that his policies and stewardship led directly to the death of far more than 450,000 Americans, starting even BEFORE Trump's Pandemic.

Trumps Policies Resulted In The Unnecessary Deaths Of Hundreds Of Thousands Of Americans: Lancet Report.
Feb. 11, 2021

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/02/11/trumps-policies-resulted-in-the-unnecessary-deaths-of-hundreds-of-thousands-of-americans-lancet-report/

Spidy
08-08-24, 20:38
You still want to list the butchering of babies under "heavenly good deeds".

I believe moral people everywhere, believe stopping the butchering of innocent babies supersedes anything else you listed!!

But you want to still Cheerlead for more of it with your ROEvember phrase? Thanks for the conformation, as to which "road" Repubs are on! YES, see you in "ROEvember". - Harris / Walz "When WE fight, WE WIN!".


BTW not incidentally I am an ardent atheist.Sure dude, if you say so! But that doesn't negate all those unsolicited, rousing stories of your upbringing with the catholic nuns, you so love to regal us with, from time to time.

Atheist...hmmm! The catholic nuns must be so disappointed! (...kkkk!)


And "better border security" more full of shit double speak WTF you're a joke!!.NYT: On the Border, Republicans Set a Trap, Then Fell Into It
Congressional Republicans thought they had set a clever trap for Democrats that would accomplish complementary political and policy goals.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/06/us/politics/border-republicans-ukraine-bill.html


Your sophistry is quite unimpressive I see you wouldn't correct your making up the JDV Hitler quote, COWARD!!Agreed, convict Trump is a COWARD! , Your absolutely right! Good for you! And according to JDV "America's Hitler"


Now you want to intentionally conflate his wife being Indian and not white? Really who said she's white? Who said she's black? She says what she is, and that's what she is, not a fake race grifter / race hustler / race con artist like Harris. Critics Question JD Vance's 'Weird' Defense Of Wife Usha After White Supremacist Attacks. "Posts appear to have spiked this week following Vance's nomination criticizing Vance for marrying someone who is non-white, expressing concerns about an influx of Indian immigrants as a result and the so-called Great Replacement conspiracy have garnered hundreds of thousands of views according to individual post engagement figures." https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jd-vance-wife-usha-white-supremacist-attacks_n_66a5c296e4b0d5de59dcf049

Dude, you do the math on who's zooming who?

HINT: "White supremacists don't like JDV's non-white choice for a wife" (...go figure!)

EihTooms
08-09-24, 04:11
He deliberately put it out there and then he later said, I mean if he loses, yeah right.

You can't take some things back and say that's not what I meant.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/trump-inauguration-protests-womens-march/index.html

Here are some baby butchers for you, making some money off their EVIL.

https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-news/undercover-video-allegedly-shows-planned-parenthood-scandal/

Lets hear it from all you fans!!In Trump's astonishingly lunatic Mar-a-Lardo "press conference" today where he did not accurately answer any question (all asked perfectly pro Repub calmly and politely, no shouting and anger, unlike most you see of Dems) while demanding that Harris do "press conferences" like his where he does not answer any question accurately, he announced that under Joe Biden gasoline has gotten as high as "$8 per barrel", which (he lied) caused inflation to be the highest in history and (he lied) the economy to be the worst ever.

He never corrected himself. Not even as of this writing.

Can't take it back, right? Harris should feature that amazingly good news on energy costs under her administration in an ad.

EihTooms
08-09-24, 18:29
LOL. You. Can. Not. Make. This. Stuff. Up.

Leave it to the Great Race / Ethnicity / Appearance / Religion Detective, Donald J. Trump, to put his now famous serious Cognitive Impairment, senility and dementia on full display at his Fake Mar-a-Lardo White House press conference by "misremembering" (or we can call it lying, your choice) a helicopter "emergenvy landing" that never happened.

But more importantly, his above-stated Detective work demonstrates that he can't even tell the difference between two rather well-known men, one a White guy and the other a Black guy!

Nikki Haley Nikki Haley Nikki Haley?

Or was it Nancy Pelosi?

Therefore proving that nobody in MAGA World is more qualified to be the arbiter of ANYONE'S Race / Ethnicity / Appearance / Religion than The Great Detective, Donald J. Trump, himself!

Lololol.

Trump's Helicopter Crash Story Never Even Happened.
He's so full of crap, his eyes are brown.

https://crooksandliars.com/2024/08/trumps-helicopter-crash-story-never-even


It wasnt the famous former San Francisco mayor on the helicopter flight at all. It was Gov. Jerry Brown, the former governor of California, who bears little resemblance to Willie Brown.
.......
Jerry Brown, who left office in January 2019, said through a spokesman, There was no emergency landing and no discussion of Kamala Harris.

I call complete B.S., Mr. Newsom said, laughing out loud.

MarquisdeSade1
08-09-24, 18:41
In Trump's astonishingly lunatic Mar-a-Lardo "press conference" today where he did not accurately answer any question (all asked perfectly pro Repub calmly and politely, no shouting and anger, unlike most you see of Dems) while demanding that Harris do "press conferences" like his where he does not answer any question accurately, he announced that under Joe Biden gasoline has gotten as high as "$8 per barrel", which (he lied) caused inflation to be the highest in history and (he lied) the economy to be the worst ever.

He never corrected himself. Not even as of this writing.

Can't take it back, right? Harris should feature that amazingly good news on energy costs under her administration in an ad.You must be a fan of butchering of babies not unlike ISGs #1 Cheerleader MrSpidy.

Where is your comment about that link, you have a twisted comment about everything else, but why not that.

Spidy
08-09-24, 19:04
In Trump's astonishingly lunatic Mar-a-Lardo "press conference" today where he did not accurately answer any question (all asked perfectly pro Repub calmly and politely, no shouting and anger, unlike most you see of Dems) while demanding that Harris do "press conferences" like his where he does not answer any question accurately, he announced that under Joe Biden gasoline has gotten as high as "$8 per barrel", which (he lied) caused inflation to be the highest in history and (he lied) the economy to be the worst ever.

He never corrected himself. Not even as of this writing.

Can't take it back, right? Harris should feature that amazingly good news on energy costs under her administration in an ad.

It was disgraceful journalism on display. Your depiction of poor level of journalism, at the "press conference", is spot on!

Yes, the live press or networks (in real-time) did not fact check him, they did not correct his lies, they did not press him with hardly any hardball questions, they did not follow up with questions incoherent rambling nor did they're bring their typical journalistic zeal and zest to the Trump "press conference".

What I can't figure out, is if MSM:

1. have simply just grown too tried to do anything about his lies? Or;
2. have gotten lazy to his lies? Or;
3. are still fearful of his indignant rants and lashes out, about terrible fake questions, journalists or their news networks, often when he can't answer tough questions? Or;
4. have succumb to his lies and surrendered all journalistic integrity? Or;
5. they were just bored to the lies and wanted to get it over with (...which I could totally understand)?
Either way, MSM need to bring the same level of energy to Trump's "old man" QAnon/MAGA campaign tour, as they do in a Dems press conference.

PS: Note how tired "old man" Trump looked? Didn't he certainly look a paler shade of orange, than his usual self?

EihTooms
08-09-24, 19:32
It was disgraceful journalism on display. Your depiction of poor level of journalism, at the "press conference", is spot on!

Yes, the live press or networks (in real-time) did not fact check him, they did not correct his lies, they did not press him with hardly any hardball questions, they did not follow up with questions incoherent rambling nor did they're bring their typical journalistic zeal and zest to the Trump "press conference".

What I can't figure out, is if MSM:

1. have simply just grown too tried to do anything about his lies? Or;
2. have gotten lazy to his lies? Or;
3. are still fearful of his indignant rants and lashes out, about terrible fake questions, journalists or their news networks, often when he can't answer tough questions? Or;
4. have succumb to his lies and surrendered all journalistic integrity? Or;
5. they were just bored to the lies and wanted to get it over with (...which I could totally understand)?
Either way, MSM need to bring the same level of energy to Trump's "old man" QAnon/MAGA campaign tour, as they do in a Dems press conference.

PS: Note how tired "old man" Trump looked? Didn't he certainly look a paler shade of orange, than his usual self?It is way, way too much work to correct and fact-check Trump's classic Gish gallop of lies on the run. Best analogy is it would be like trying to catch confetti.

Yes, they COULD do it on screen with today's technology.

But lazy MSM would then have to come up with other ways of generating more clicks and views for their product than the one they have preferred and relied upon for at least 100 years; by simply spinning the narrative to help Repubs win elections and let THEM work their magic to produce the horrific headlines MSM craves and needs.

Elvis 2008
08-09-24, 22:46
So now this post is censored which cracked me up.


FYI, I believe Admin had initially censored correctly and deleted both our posts.To recap my post was how can whites be racist when 50,75, and 100% white people are saying they are not white? How can we Republicans be sexist if Dems cannot define what a woman is? On a 1 to 10 scale, that is a 10 , a kill shot. There is no good answer to it.

So your response was a 0. Basically, Elvis, you are stupid. Trump is stupid, and Democrats are American. So if anybody should be clamoring for your post being censored, it should be me, and that is the last thing I want. I want everyone to see how pathetic your response was.

But beyond the arguing, you think censorship is good. Sorry, I do not. And how was this correct? You can still read what I wrote, and in your case if your post was censored, the person who should want it down the most wants it up. That is censorship is but I am not sure what the point of it is.

We just saw the idiocy with Covid and absolute obedience to leadership. And here you are Spidy worshipping an admin. I wonder how authority humping mongers live with themselves. I used to think it was they hated themselves, and I am sure some do. Now I just wonder what percentage are narcissists who think the government would understand their need for mongering when the truth is government is doing all it can to put mongers in jail.

So yeah, I do think there is a huge difference with Democrats and Republicans on this issue. Democrats want to be taken care of by government while Republicans want the government to leave us alone.

Elvis 2008
08-09-24, 23:00
So Matt Taibbi posts this about a woman who has a bat fly into her house and somehow find a way to blame Trump and somehow got her in story in the NYT:

The New York Times ran a guest editorial by Belle Boggs, a North Carolina author who had a bat fly in her house. It didn't bite her, but she needed a sheriff's deputy, a county health nurse, state animal control, the CDC, and an E. Are. Doctor to tell her what to do about that. Naturally, the episode led her to think of Donald Trump:

Now this is what she wrote: After our visit from the bat, our sheriff's department, public health department and university hospital all functioned exactly as designed. The see. The. See. , a huge federal agency that works to protect every one of us from infectious disease, food-borne illness and emerging threats like bird flu, pulled through. The see. The. See. Is part of what Mr. Trump's allies would call the administrative state and is in the cross hairs of Project 2025, which proposes breaking up the agency. I want to believe Kamala Harris is right when she says "we are not going back" to a time when every calamity leaves us on our own.

Back to Taibbi: The conundrum of the column is that the author, who wrote a book called The Art of Waiting: On Fertility, Medicine, and Motherhood, does not know if she and her husband need rabies shots. She's sure the bat "hadn't gotten near our daughters," but uncertainties reign elsewhere. "How deep a sleeper are you?" the county health nurse asks, reminding Boggs the window to act is short. Author and husband ultimately spend $600 in co-pays to get shots and realize they've lived through another experience reminding them of the need to vote blue, at which point the column is written.

And here is his point: The real-life decision tree is simpler. If you know you're too much of a compulsive thinker to get through days of wondering if a rabid bat bit you in your sleep, you don't need the CDC to tell you you need to pay the $600, get the shots, and buy peace of mind.

So this is how dumb Democrats have gotten. They cannot make decisions. They have to have government decide for that. The interesting thing is I would agree with her on the CDC "functioning as designed" but she thinks that means the CDC serves her, and I am like shaking my head and asking. Really? After Covid? So I did a deep dive on how the CDC is functioning with rabies.

Elvis 2008
08-09-24, 23:49
I remember at like a cub scout meeting where we were handling animals, and we were told you know if an animal bites you, you have to get 21 rabies shots in the stomach one a day for 21 days and if you do not do that, you are going to die because there is no cure for rabies. So fear of rabies has been ingrained us since children.

Common sense dictates that you should only worry about things you know others died of, and I know that no one here knows anyone who died of rabies in the USA, and you know why? Because of the average number of deaths in the USA over the last 50 years from rabies is one per year.

But that does not stop 60,000 people per year from getting preventive therapy including the vaccine, which costs $5000 on average for a total of $300 million per year. Now you can imagine what the vaccine companies are going to say. Well, there is only one death because our vaccines work so well which sound great until you learn that there were only one hundred deaths per year before the vaccine. And back then, they did not have a massive animal immunization program. 99% of the cases of rabies in the world come from dogs but because dogs are vaccinated so frequently here, dogs rarely cause rabies in the USA.

So you can make a calculation on what is best given risk and benefit. If ten people die a year from the vaccine and only one dies from rabies, you should not take the vaccine right? Yeah, it would be great to have that data right? It does not exist. What does exist is a list of side effects from the vaccine but the CDC does not have the percent incidence of side effects.

So this is why it took so many parties to make up their mind. No one knows what to do because there is no data. You have to read the mind of the person and realize that she wants the vaccine so you give it to her. If she dies of rabies, a doctor can be sued, but there is no way he can be sued if she is harmed from the vaccine because no one can prove the vaccine is harmful. She is deluding herself then when she thinks she got great treatment because no one knows that is.

As unbelievable as that is, there is this article in a scientific journal. For the record, PEP means postexposure prophylaxis which includes the vaccine. Here is the article, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X18315421.

Randomized clinical trials (RCTs) in patients with potential or confirmed exposure to RABV are generally considered to bring the strongest proof of clinical effectiveness. It is critical that all clinical trials undertaken adhere to good clinical practice (GCP) including ethical approval and informed consent and never against placebo in rabies PEP trials. A case-control study therefore cannot serve to justify initial implementation, although it may be useful as part of downstream confirmation studies. At present, observational data may be the most convincing and ethical method by which to undertake the evaluation of rabies vaccines or changes in PEP regimens, before an RCT can be conducted.

Let me translate this: Usually there are two groups in a study. One group gets a placebo and the other gets a treatment. You then see if the intervention worked (the benefit) and ascertain the side effects of the intervention group versus the placebo group (the risk). That was not done with this vaccine. Instead, observation was used, and the observation was the vaccine was great with very few side effects.

And the most shocking line of all: There is no point in investing time, energy and money in conducting clinical trials with no expected gain in protecting human health.

And the author is right on that point. A study probably is not going to save lives given how few people die of rabies. On the other hand, it may change guidelines and hurt vaccine companies to the tune of billions.

So the CDC is working as expected in my mind. They are making billions for vaccine companies for diseases that rarely kill people, and you know you are a Democrat if that sounds great to you.

EihTooms
08-10-24, 06:46
It is refreshing to see a member of typically pro Repub Mainstream Media finally OUT his own industry for their consistent denigration of Dems vs their eternal deference to Repubs.

This is a MUST SEE video:

https://youtu.be/ZD-oTJ49nls?si=MdqUrcAQtquqfFwx

And as a reminder of another point and prediction I have made about this; as of this writing, no member of typically pro Repub Mainstream Media, not even Lawrence O'Donnell as seen in that great video, has dared to frame the current improvement in campaign donations and poll numbers for Dems as due to ANYTHING other than Joe Biden dropping out and endorsing Kamala Harris.

There has not been one word about that dramatic response in favor of the Dem campaign ALSO coinciding perfectly with the Grand Finale of that lunatic, lie-filled, clown show of idiocy Republican National Convention, the disturbingly weird Repub VP introduction and the always disturbingly weird King of Idiotic Clowns Donald J. Trump's Repub nomination rambling, incoherent blithering and hate-filled acceptance speech.

Oh no. They can not do that. Because if MSM dare to do that they would no longer be furthering their beloved Repubs' carefully concocted election campaign talking point that "America is simply relieved that the "failed" President Joe Biden has totally lost his Cognitive Competence and abandoned his "failed" presidency while our Repub former president, candidates and policies had been justifiably lovingly embraced all along. ".

And if that is the overriding Repub election campaign message then it must certainly be the typically pro Repub election campaign message too.

EihTooms
08-10-24, 08:28
You must be a fan of butchering of babies not unlike ISGs #1 Cheerleader MrSpidy.

Where is your comment about that link, you have a twisted comment about everything else, but why not that.Which nonsensical, easily debunked, Winger fake news link was that?

The one on this topic?

Planned Parenthood Investigations Find No Fetal Tissue Sales.

https://www.npr.org/2016/01/28/464594826/in-wake-of-videos-planned-parenthood-investigations-find-no-fetal-tissue-sales

Kamala Harris was not California's attorney-general when the anti-abortion activists were charged.
Bogus Harris claim returns after several years.

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/bogus-harris-claim-returns-after-several-years/

Fact check: Trump falsely claims Democratic states are passing laws allowing people to execute babies after birth.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/politics/fact-check-donald-trump-abortion-babies-executed/index.html

What is the difference between an embryo, a fetus, and a baby?
Embryo, fetus, baby: the stages of development during pregnancy.

https://helloclue.com/articles/pregnancy-birth-and-postpartum/what-is-the-difference-between-an-embryo-a-fetus-and-a-baby#text=As%20 pregnancy%20 progresses%20 the%20 embryo, we%20 are%20 most%20 comfortable%20 with.

Please clarify which link topic you would like me to opine about.

Spidy
08-10-24, 09:55
My, my, my...what a difference a few weeks in US politics, make?

I mean, where are they now? As just weeks/days ago, there were more Trump QAnon/MAGA supporters celebrating victory, with more posts in the American Politics forum, than you could shake-a-stick at, than I'd seen in a long while from Repubs. You couldn't get a word in edgewise, to inform our boisterous Repub QAnon/MAGA fellow ISGers that elections are won at the ballot-box.

There was jubilation, gleeful bloviating, blustering laughter, bristling bravado, MAGA hi-fives all-a-round, premature victory dances and celebration over Trump's defiant black fist pump amidst his near death shouting. And my absolute favorite of all, were those MAGA supporters, quoting RFK Jr. as if to say, every once in a while, when he's figured out, how to string two (2) coherent sentences together, we (Dems) should take it as "gospel".
But let's not be so harsh, on those QAnon/MAGA supporters, that love to quote RFK Jr., as I can see why they love, their madcap 3rd party spoiler and the crap that comes outta his mouth, since it isn't that dissimilar to the crap coming outta Trump and the "weirdos" like JD Vance.

BTW, speaking of weirdos, perhaps one of you Repubs and supporters of RFK Jr. can explain his confession, w/r to leaving a dead bear cub, in Central Park (2014), because he hadn't time to skin and eat it, on his way to catching a flight????

Anywho, back to where has all the "hot air" gone from the DJT/JDV MAGA campaign?:

But I digress, back to the Trump/Vance campaign, that has gone from hero to zero, in a matter of a couple of weeks.

The Harris campaign took-in a record setting $310 million in July to convict Trump's less than half of Harris's total, with a meager $139 million.

The enthusiasm for Veep Harris/Walz campaign, is a wave of fresh new intense power, that is energetic, uplifting and energizing, in rally, after rally, after rally. With 2x the crowds and audiences, to that of DJT and stalker JDV.

With Trump being furious, about losing his advantage in the polls, it's obvious the losing is amplifying his meltdown and has naturally reverts back to his same old rut, and reaches into his birther bag of tawdry tricks of ugly comments and lies, when he's losing and his back is against the wall.

By some standards the campaign meltdown is quite literal, as Trump just looks exhausted, as he now resembles the "old tired man" on the campaign trail, that Repubs claimed Biden was. Trump is so visibly frazzled and gutted from the success of the Harris/Walz campaign, that took to Truth Social, sobbing and crying, just let everyone know he want Joe Biden back (...kkkk!). He writes...

"This is the most Radical Left duo in American History. There has never been anything like it and there never will be again. Crazy Kamabla is, indeed CRAZY. I HEAR THERE IS A MOVEMENT TO BRING BACK CROOKED JOE." --August 6th, 2024 at 3:36pm
Once again the Repubs are like the dog that has caught the car and now don't know what to do with it. Just like Roe v Wade, Repubs got their wish for Biden to drop out of the race and now that they have their wish, they are caught flat-footed, as the Harris/Walz campaign of "When WE fight WE WIN!, is fun, is joyous, is breaking all kinds of records, is bringing in supporters "off the couch" of every socio-economic and political stripe and looks virtually unstoppable.

NPR/PBS/Marist poll (Jul 22 to Aug 4th +/- 3.3%) shows a 23% point swing in independent voters for Veep Harris from 32% in mid-Jul to 53% in August. As for Trump, among independents, he went backwards like his campaign, from from 46% to 44%
Women, Black voters and independents have all moved toward Harris ... Because of Harris gains with certain groups, shes also improved her standing in the suburbs and with white voters overall...Harris now leads by 13 points with women (55-42 percent) ... Harris biggest boost is coming with Black voters.

She has gone from a 23-point lead with Black voters over Trump ... Some Black voters, who appeared to be considering Trump, have moved away from him, as hes dropped 10 points with them. https://www.mprnews.org/story/2024/08/07/poll-harris-jumps-to-a-small-national-lead-over-trump
In contrast, the DJT/JDV MAGA campaign since the RNC convention, has been lack luster, stale, hateful, tired, clueless at times and appears to be suffering from buyer remorse, w/r to their choice of Veep in JD Vance. It looks like, it will take more than just medical white tape and gauze, over one's ear, to get Americans excited about his old tired, recycled MAGA campaign.

I'll say it again, as the Repubs only have themselves to blame. The reason Repubs are facing another bad, stale and uninspiring campaign, is because, since Trump took office and took over the RNC, they have been going backwards, devoid of new ideas, visionless, myopic and filled with Project 2025 cult like blind faith to billionaires and a charlatan, joyless and compassionless leader, who's only looking for the next grift, to enrich himself and his family.

Yes, it's not over and the race is most definitely won at the ballot-box. But the momentum has definitely shifted over to the joyous and inclusive Harris/Walz campaign, were "When WE fight WE WIN!

MarquisdeSade1
08-10-24, 11:27
So Matt Taibbi posts this about a woman who has a bat fly into her house and somehow find a way to blame Trump and somehow got her in story in the NYT:

The New York Times ran a guest editorial by Belle Boggs, a North Carolina author who had a bat fly in her house. It didn't bite her, but she needed a sheriff's deputy, a county health nurse, state animal control, the CDC, and an E. Are. Doctor to tell her what to do about that. Naturally, the episode led her to think of Donald Trump:

Now this is what she wrote: After our visit from the bat, our sheriff's department, public health department and university hospital all functioned exactly as designed. The see. The. See. , a huge federal agency that works to protect every one of us from infectious disease, food-borne illness and emerging threats like bird flu, pulled through. The see. The. See. Is part of what Mr. Trump's allies would call the administrative state and is in the cross hairs of Project 2025, which proposes breaking up the agency. I want to believe Kamala Harris is right when she says "we are not going back" to a time when every calamity leaves us on our own.

Back to Taibbi: The conundrum of the column is that the author, who wrote a book called The Art of Waiting: On Fertility, Medicine, and Motherhood, does not know if she and her husband need rabies shots. She's sure the bat "hadn't gotten near our daughters," but uncertainties reign elsewhere. "How deep a sleeper are you?" the county health nurse asks, reminding Boggs the window to act is short. Author and husband ultimately spend $600 in co-pays to get shots and realize they've lived through another experience reminding them of the need to vote blue, at which point the column is written.

And here is his point: The real-life decision tree is simpler. If you know you're too much of a compulsive thinker to get through days of wondering if a rabid bat bit you in your sleep, you don't need the CDC to tell you you need to pay the $600, get the shots, and buy peace of mind.

So this is how dumb Democrats have gotten. They cannot make decisions. They have to have government decide for that. The interesting thing is I would agree with her on the CDC "functioning as designed" but she thinks that means the CDC serves her, and I am like shaking my head and asking. Really? After Covid? So I did a deep dive on how the CDC is functioning with rabies.Is truly a fundamental human right.

How can you have political discourse when one of the two points of view is being censored?

Its the epitome of injustice.

CheckMate1
08-10-24, 17:14
I'll say it again, as the Repubs only have themselves to blame. The reason Repubs are facing another bad, stale and uninspiring campaign, is because, since Trump took office and took over the RNC, they have been going backwards, devoid of new ideas, visionless, myopic and filled with Project 2025 cult like blind faith to billionaires and a charlatan, joyless and compassionless leader, who's only looking for the next grift, to enrich himself and his family.]While Biden looked and is TIRED, the DNC is still building out their network to run political campaigns for congressional, senatorial, and presidency, as well as locals. In the meanwhile, you have someone who does not have a history of doing so heading the RNC, and it will show in the next three months.

You have a groundswell of money and volunteers coming to the DNC now with renewed energy, and the opposite can be said about Earth 2. Volunteering doesn't sound sexy, but it is quite effective. You saw it in the first Clinton, first GW Bush, Obama, 2016 Trump, Biden, and now, what looks like Harris, campaign. Enthusiasm and momentum is going in Harris' direction. How long will it last remains to be seen.

Prediction: If momentum continues into October, not only will the "battle ground" states be secured, you may see one or two red states flipped.

Xpartan
08-10-24, 22:19
You must be a fan of butchering of babies not unlike ISGs #1 Cheerleader MrSpidy.

Where is your comment about that link, you have a twisted comment about everything else, but why not that.You have called for a civil war in this country multiple times.

Real, flesh-and-blood babies die in a civil war.

Ergo: you should be the last person on earth to be worrying about dead babies.

EihTooms
08-11-24, 01:17
Ah. While we wait a few minutes longer for the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics polling site to shift Pennsylvania from Trump to Harris in their No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map as they did recently with Wisconsin and Michigan, the poll lovers here might be interested to know that the 538 site is now showing Harris with a small but trending lead in Arizona along with her lead Nationally, in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Virginia (among their Battleground States list) and half of a percentage point from a lead in Georgia.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

And Nate Silver's Silver Bulletin now has Harris taking a new lead in Arizona and Nevada along with her lead Nationally, in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Virginia, with only a 1 percentage point distance from a lead in Georgia:

https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

So the post-Republican National Convention Clown Show Festival of Blithering Lies campaign donations, campaign rally crowds and polling numbers Flight to Dems and the Dem Presidential Candidate continues at a steady pace.

And this is before Harris' likely Democratic National Convention boost, her likely Trump 34 Felony Conviction Sentencing boost and her likely 2nd blathering, non answer, lie-filled Trump debate boost.

Again, this would only be of interest to those who are into and enjoy citing the polls. You know, like a few posters here used to be but don't seem to be so much anymore.

MarquisdeSade1
08-11-24, 12:18
You have called for a civil war in this country multiple times.

Real, flesh-and-blood babies die in a civil war.

Ergo: you should be the last person on earth to be worrying about dead babies.https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-news/undercover-video-allegedly-shows-planned-parenthood-scandal/

These babys arms and legs and organs are not flesh and blood? What are they, plastic?

So are you trying to say baby butchers kill babies that are fake?

And then you say I shouldn't worry about dead babies? WOW are you drunk?

CheckMate1
08-11-24, 15:58
https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-news/undercover-video-allegedly-shows-planned-parenthood-scandal/

These babys arms and legs and organs are not flesh and blood? What are they, plastic?

So are you trying to say baby butchers kill babies that are fake?

And then you say I shouldn't worry about dead babies? WOW are you drunk?Glad you have strong conviction on this issue. You can choose to not abort in your family.

Now, Mine your own damn business!

Party of Life should not endorse abortion, wars, and death penalty. If one chooses any of the three is disqualified as Pro Life.

CheckMate1
08-11-24, 16:12
I wasn't shitting on Marquise. Sorry if I come across that way.

I believe that when it comes to the subject of Abortion, War or Death Penalty, the Republican has always been, shall we say, flexible on their choices. And that's okay, you can choose Death Penalty and not Abortion, or war instead of Abortion. But they allow zero flexibility for others to choose War not Abortion, or Death Penalty not Abortion, or any other combination.

Debates can be had with the second amendment, but don't call yourself Pro Life if you are willing to take a life to defend yourself, while opposing abortion. Because I'll defend you on protecting yourself to my last breathe, but unlikely that you'll defend someone who makes similar choice in their life to protect themselves.

SubCmdr
08-11-24, 16:37
The hypocrisy of pro life people is that they only care about the baby in the womb. Once it is born they are against all government policies to assist a mother to take care of their newborn baby!

Spidy
08-11-24, 18:47
https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-news/undercover-video-allegedly-shows-planned-parenthood-scandal/

These babys arms and legs and organs are not flesh and blood? What are they, plastic?

So are you trying to say baby butchers kill babies that are fake?

And then you say I shouldn't worry about dead babies? WOW are you drunk?

Please get back to me, when this tired, 9-year old and 2015 "alleged scandal", blatant hearsay, innuendo and unverified information, in your article becomes factual news and not just another hack and hatchet-job, to throw against the wall and see what sticks, against the Harris/Walz campaign.

Can you provide any new, recent or UPDATED information w/r to your "baby butcher" cabal? Other than a news article that is attempting to link the "alleged scandal" back in 2015, with Veep Harris who just happen to be in office?

By all accounts, it sounds a bit like a Senator Katie Britt's SOTU response meme? I mean, sure Biden (in this case Harris) was in office at the time, but WTF?

BTW, I know how you just love to throw around this recycled winger slogan from 2015 and use the term interchangeably with "killing", like a winger with an AR-15 magazines on a shooting spree, but when does your so called "baby butchering" start and end? At child trafficking? Pizzagate?

Elvis 2008
08-11-24, 18:59
And this is before Harris' likely Democratic National Convention boost, her likely Trump 34 Felony Conviction Sentencing boost and her likely 2nd blathering, non answer, lie-filled Trump debate boost.

Again, this would only be of interest to those who are into and enjoy citing the polls. You know, like a few posters here used to be but don't seem to be so much anymore.Oh, because the recent polls are not in our favor? Yeah, Trump is at -118. You bet $100 and you get $118 for Trump. Harris at -110. You bet $110 and you win $100. So the odds are in your favor for now, and they will be until Trump attacks Harris for who she is. What you do not get is her support is an inch deep, and Trump has historically done better than the polls indicate.

For black people, it needs to be said Kamala's black father disowned her. She was putting black men in jail right and left. Particularly with black men, she needs to be told she is not your friend. According to her birth certificate, she is 25% black, and the only reason she claims to be black is she wants your vote. For God's sake, her relatives owned slaves. I have not seen that point be made.

And for white people, ask her why she is so ashamed of being 75% white. Is it the slave owning thing? Is race a choice now too? That is the thing with Democrats. Trump should say they call people like me racist and sexist while they claim that sex is a choice and Kamala chooses whatever race she thinks benefits her in the polls. You did not grow up in the hood. Heck, you did not even have the typical American educational experience. Most of your childhood you grew up in Canada.

Kamala did not have to campaign and right now she is not campaigning. All she is doing is going around telling people what they want to hear. That is fine. Let her. Wait for a few months and then ask the question, what does she stand for and whom does she represent? She did not win your vote to be the Democratic candidate right? She won the votes of the elite, and that is who she represents not you. She will do whatever George Clooney wants but not you.

Trump has Truth Social which is worth billions and hotels ETC. He does not need to be president to make money. Kamala does. Trump can draw people even if he is not president. Can she? Kamala owes people an unprecedented amount of favors, and the biggest racket for money making is war. The woman wants power not to do good but for herself. She wants power for fame and money. She will not use it for you the people. You are only there to give her your money to her and your attention for her fame. Ask the question, why does she want to be president?

The woman has no soul. If she were from Texas, she would be a mixed female Republican. She is not RFK Jr. A lifelong Democrat who has fought corporate America for the little guy and has truly dedicated his life to the health of Americans. What has Kamala Harris ever done? Kiss ass. She kissed Willie Brown's ass. She kissed Biden's ass and now she is kissing the ass of the American people.

Admit it Tooms. You do not know her. If she did not have Democrat after her name, you would have nothing to do with her.

I will give you this Tooms. If Trump does not show America who she really is, there is a good chance she wins and for now, he is not doing it. He has not even given her a nickname. My preference would be chameleon Kamala.

Spidy
08-11-24, 21:02
Ah. While we wait a few minutes longer for the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics polling site to shift Pennsylvania from Trump to Harris in their No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map as they did recently with Wisconsin and Michigan, the poll lovers here might be interested to know that the 538 site is now showing Harris with a small but trending lead in Arizona along with her lead Nationally, in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Virginia (among their Battleground States list) and half of a percentage point from a lead in Georgia.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

And Nate Silver's Silver Bulletin now has Harris taking a new lead in Arizona and Nevada along with her lead Nationally, in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Virginia, with only a 1 percentage point distance from a lead in Georgia:

https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

So the post-Republican National Convention Clown Show Festival of Blithering Lies campaign donations, campaign rally crowds and polling numbers Flight to Dems and the Dem Presidential Candidate continues at a steady pace.

And this is before Harris' likely Democratic National Convention boost, her likely Trump 34 Felony Conviction Sentencing boost and her likely 2nd blathering, non answer, lie-filled Trump debate boost.

Again, this would only be of interest to those who are into and enjoy citing the polls. You know, like a few posters here used to be but don't seem to be so much anymore.

Here is yet another good reason to highlight the surge in the uptick of voters for Harris in Arizona and Nevada, identified in your polling data.

Note: BTW, although I'm not necessarily a huge "elections polls guy", please keep 'em coming, as they are much appreciated, even though some "others", suddenly don't care what the polls are now showing (...kkkk!)
The Harris/Walz campaign, has just received the nation's oldest Latino Civil Rights Group endorsement. The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), makes the first-ever presidential endorsement, for Harris.

Conservative Latino Group Makes First Presidential Endorsement in 100 years
https://www.newsweek.com/latino-group-lulac-endorses-harris-walz-election-1937246

So with the:

--Black Women for Harris, Black Men for Harris, White Women for Harris, White Dudes for Harris, Republicans for Harris

AND NOW:

--Latinos for Harris

Are all great signs, that the Harris/Walz campaign, is making all kinds of new records, inroads and connecting with Americans of all stripes, that are keen voters, volunteers and donors, that are getting behind the Harris/Walz campaign, for the big push to win in ROEvember. Especially with a strong WOMEN's vote and now thanks to LULAC, a strong Latino vote.

PS: Xpartan, I think this may be the type of "Conservative/Repub" centrist (or center-right) swing voter/movement, you were hoping for, but wasn't sure Harris would ever get?

Xpartan
08-11-24, 22:54
Civil War? Would you any idea what hyperbole is?Yes, I do, and it doesn't sound like this:


Let there be a Civil War 2.0. And all the smart money will be on the red team with all the guns.Now that your hyperbole claim is settled, there is this:




https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-new...thood-scandal

So are you trying to say baby butchers kill babies that are fake?No, I'm saying that your "baby butchers" are fake.

This POS video recorded by a professional conservative provocateur who had been trying to frame Planned Parenthood for years, was thoroughly debunked in 2015. Now the above-mentioned POS (the provocateur) released another 20 seconds of an expletive-laced exchange that mean precisely shit.

It would take a very special type of, well, thinker to buy this shit.

Planned Parenthood: Fact v. Fiction

https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/planned-parenthood-fact-v-fiction

Planned Parenthood Investigations Find No Fetal Tissue Sales

https://www.npr.org/2016/01/28/464594826/in-wake-of-videos-planned-parenthood-investigations-find-no-fetal-tissue-sales

EihTooms
08-12-24, 04:22
Here is yet another good reason to highlight the surge in the uptick of voters for Harris in Arizona and Nevada, identified in your polling data.

Note: BTW, although I'm not necessarily a huge "elections polls guy", please keep 'em coming, as they are much appreciated, even though some "others", suddenly don't care what the polls are now showing (...kkkk!)
The Harris/Walz campaign, has just received the nation's oldest Latino Civil Rights Group endorsement. The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), makes the first-ever presidential endorsement, for Harris.

Conservative Latino Group Makes First Presidential Endorsement in 100 years
https://www.newsweek.com/latino-group-lulac-endorses-harris-walz-election-1937246..I too am not a big believer in polls "predicting" a presidential election outcome. Especially months before the election. But I saw others here celebrating and counting the days to the next Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession, Massive Repub Jobs Destruction and whatever new Great Repub Once in 100 Years Disaster that will surely accompany the next Repub presidency based on the recent (not current) polls.

What can be said about the polls for the most part over the years is a Consensus of Polls for the presidential race 2-3 days before election day tends to land within a normal +/-MoE of the actual vote. LOL. Which is a pretty low bar to achieve. Just about all of such Consensus of Polls can be arguably right and arguably wrong on that basis.

It turns out polls are not predictive of a Presidential election win. Neither are debate performances, age, money spent on the campaign, the VP candidate choice, lawn signs, rally crowd sizes and a whole host of other factors most professional and amateur pundits think predict the winner when history has been fairly clear they don't.

Tiny 12
08-12-24, 04:35
I've wasted too much time in this thread so have sworn it off, but am stopping by to reply to Paulie's off-topic comments elsewhere.




P.S. By extension I want to thank the many dentally challenged at Trump rallies that pass along not only this, but varieties of other truths they are privy to, not only though the grapevine but through their social media accounts and other online "sources" that specialize in truth. These, who are always quick to remind us we are reading in the wrong places are the real heroes here.Dear Paulie,

Trump's definitely got the right idea on Ukraine -- try to bring the two sides together to negotiate a peace. But he's almost as likely as the other jokers in Washington to get the USA in a war with Iran or China. His trade wars suck, as does his idea to politicize the Fed. And while not as bad as most high profile Democrats, he's a spendthrift. Most importantly, he tried to steal an election. If I'm allowed to vote, it won't be for Trump. Or Kamala, she's worse than Trump. My vote will go to Chase Oliver. He's "armed and gay. " While Chase's gayness may not comport with your and my idea of a manly man, he'd keep the USA out of conflicts where it doesn't belong. He wouldn't cater to the military industrial alliance.

Speaking of which, I shall pray that you someday see the light, like your favorite president, Dwight D. Eisenhower did. Eisenhower did more to cater to the military establishment and arms industry than any president in post World War II America. But in the end he came around. I hope some day you do too.

"Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime.

....This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence economic, political, even spiritual is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government.

....In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

....We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

--- Dwight David Eisenhower

The worldwide military industrial complex is gaining power and money from the Ukraine conflict -- another good reason to pursue an end to this madness.

Kind regards,

Tiny

EihTooms
08-12-24, 04:40
Oh, because the recent polls are not in our favor? Yeah, Trump is at -118. You bet $100 and you get $118 for Trump. Harris at -110. You bet $110 and you win $100. So the odds are in your favor for now, and they will be until Trump attacks Harris for who she is. What you do not get is her support is an inch deep, and Trump has historically done better than the polls indicate.

For black people, it needs to be said Kamala's black father disowned her. She was putting black men in jail right and left. Particularly with black men, she needs to be told she is not your friend. According to her birth certificate, she is 25% black, and the only reason she claims to be black is she wants your vote. For God's sake, her relatives owned slaves. I have not seen that point be made.

And for white people, ask her why she is so ashamed of being 75% white. Is it the slave owning thing? Is race a choice now too? That is the thing with Democrats. Trump should say they call people like me racist and sexist while they claim that sex is a choice and Kamala chooses whatever race she thinks benefits her in the polls. You did not grow up in the hood. Heck, you did not even have the typical American educational experience. Most of your childhood you grew up in Canada.

Kamala did not have to campaign and right now she is not campaigning. All she is doing is going around telling people what they want to hear. That is fine. Let her. Wait for a few months and then ask the question, what does she stand for and whom does she represent? She did not win your vote to be the Democratic candidate right? She won the votes of the elite, and that is who she represents not you. She will do whatever George Clooney wants but not you..The fact that Harris is a Democrat and has been #2 in a Democratic Presidential Administration whose positive accomplishments for America and the spread of democracy around the world far outperformed most other Dem Administrations and ALL Repub Administrations is all I would have needed to know about Harris to fully endorse and vote for her. Although it is unavoidable that I do know more about her than that. And none of what I know, see and hear overrides that former overwhelming argument for any sane, patriotic American like me to support and vote for her.

Add to which we all know Trump very, very well and only an America-hating lunatic would want more of what that Repub brings to the table. As is true of virtually any Repub, of course, based on the overwhelming historical pattern of their policy and stewardship results vs that of the Dems.

Oh, here is the latest on the Presidential Betting Odds Consensus as posted on the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site and as it currently appears on the Predictlt Betting Site, one of the more popular and followed sites, since you are very much into the idea that bets on the outcome in some way changes or influences the outcome:

Xpartan
08-12-24, 05:02
Here is yet another good reason to highlight the surge in the uptick of voters for Harris in Arizona and Nevada, identified in your polling data.

Note: BTW, although I'm not necessarily a huge "elections polls guy", please keep 'em coming, as they are much appreciated, even though some "others", suddenly don't care what the polls are now showing (...kkkk!)
The Harris/Walz campaign, has just received the nation's oldest Latino Civil Rights Group endorsement. The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), makes the first-ever presidential endorsement, for Harris.

Conservative Latino Group Makes First Presidential Endorsement in 100 years
https://www.newsweek.com/latino-group-lulac-endorses-harris-walz-election-1937246

So with the:

--Black Women for Harris, Black Men for Harris, White Women for Harris, White Dudes for Harris, Republicans for Harris

AND NOW:

--Latinos for Harris

Are all great signs, that the Harris/Walz campaign, is making all kinds of new records, inroads and connecting with Americans of all stripes, that are keen voters, volunteers and donors, that are getting behind the Harris/Walz campaign, for the big push to win in ROEvember. Especially with a strong WOMEN's vote and now thanks to LULAC, a strong Latino vote.

PS: Xpartan, I think this may be the type of "Conservative/Repub" centrist (or center-right) swing voter/movement, you were hoping for, but wasn't sure Harris would ever get?Maybe. She's already doing better than I thought she would.

Spidy
08-12-24, 06:56
Oh, because the recent polls are not in our favor? Yeah, Trump is at -118. You bet $100 and you get $118 for Trump. Harris at -110. You bet $110 and you win $100. So the odds are in your favor for now, and they will be until Trump attacks Harris for who she is. What you do not get is her support is an inch deep, and Trump has historically done better than the polls indicate.

For black people, it needs to be said Kamala's black father disowned her. She was putting black men in jail right and left. Particularly with black men, she needs to be told she is not your friend. According to her birth certificate, she is 25% black, and the only reason she claims to be black is she wants your vote. For God's sake, her relatives owned slaves. I have not seen that point be made.

And for white people, ask her why she is so ashamed of being 75% white. Is it the slave owning thing? Is race a choice now too? That is the thing with Democrats. Trump should say they call people like me racist and sexist while they claim that sex is a choice and Kamala chooses whatever race she thinks benefits her in the polls. You did not grow up in the hood. Heck, you did not even have the typical American educational experience. Most of your childhood you grew up in Canada. Hogwash!

Yes, by all means reach into that birther bag, of racist nonsense, as if the percentage (%) of the racial makeup of a candidate means anything over the content of their character and what they represent and stand for.

Trump's father was a racist who attended KKK rallies. Trump identifies with Hitler and has been called "America's Hitler" by his own veep, JD Vance, whom he chose and is now having buyer's remorse.

Trump is a felon, convict, charlatan, crook, overall cheat (at business taxes, golf and life), sex offender and adulterer. I think those things speaks more to the content of one's character than any hereditary racial and ethnic trait or characteristics, that are out of one's control.

Who are you, to question how someone wishes to identify?

Elvis 2008, by the same token and illogic, I'm surprised your not asking, if JD Vance, isn't ashamed of being white, since he did not marry a women, who is 100% white? (If even being 100% is a real thing?)

The press have vilified her and thinks he didn't exactly defend his wife very well when asked about all the attacks with regards to his non-white wife. And please explain why are white supremacists so upset and outraged and attacking, Usha Chilukuri Vance for not being white? And why does her son have a name like Vivek?

'Total loser': J.D. Vance fumes after Trump's white supremacist pal attacks his wife
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/total-loser-jd-vance-fumes-after-trumps-white-supremacist-pal-attacks-his-wife/ar-AA1oBTPz

Your post is yet just another stupid nonsensical rant, in a long line culture war rants, wanting to stir up shit where there is none!

Just like you idiot Repubs/QAnon/MAGA numbskulls do, with cartoon and fictional characters, like purple Dinosaurs and purple Teletube Babies. Just Pathetic!


Kamala did not have to campaign and right now she is not campaigning. All she is doing is going around telling people what they want to hear. That is fine. Let her. Wait for a few months and then ask the question, what does she stand for and whom does she represent? She did not win your vote to be the Democratic candidate right? She won the votes of the elite, and that is who she represents not you. She will do whatever George Clooney wants but not you. (...kkkk!) You must be joking, right? We still don't know what Trump stands for (after over 1-year of campaigning) other than tax-cuts for the rich and "drill baby drill", both of which do very little to help hard working Americans, navigate the competitive future labor, manufacturing and business markets ahead.


Trump has Truth Social which is worth billions and hotels ETC. He does not need to be president to make money. Kamala does. Trump can draw people even if he is not president. Can she? Kamala owes people an unprecedented amount of favors, and the biggest racket for money making is war. The woman wants power not to do good but for herself. She wants power for fame and money. She will not use it for you the people. You are only there to give her your money to her and your attention for her fame. Ask the question, why does she want to be president? Yes money is nice, but those who think it is everything above all else, are lost to what the job of presidency is really about. Trump cares nothing for serving his country and being the narcissist that he is, believes America should serve him.


The woman has no soul. If she were from Texas, she would be a mixed female Republican. She is not RFK Jr. A lifelong Democrat who has fought corporate America for the little guy and has truly dedicated his life to the health of Americans. What has Kamala Harris ever done? Kiss ass. She kissed Willie Brown's ass. She kissed Biden's ass and now she is kissing the ass of the American people.

Admit it Tooms. You do not know her. If she did not have Democrat after her name, you would have nothing to do with her.

I will give you this Tooms. If Trump does not show America who she really is, there is a good chance she wins and for now, he is not doing it. He has not even given her a nickname. My preference would be chameleon Kamala. Your funny! (...kkkk!) You should take a good look at your own candidate. Trump is not only is soulless, but is heartless, godless, faithless, gutless, remorseless, emotionless and thoughtless. But all that flawed content of character means nothing to you, perhaps because you can self-relate to his ilk and his emotional and empathetic bankruptcy?

Come ROEvember, you'll come to find out America wants nothing more to do with him.

Spidy
08-12-24, 09:14
So now this post is censored which cracked me up.

To recap my post was how can whites be racist when 50,75, and 100% white people are saying they are not white? How can we Republicans be sexist if Dems cannot define what a woman is? On a 1 to 10 scale, that is a 10 , a kill shot. There is no good answer to it. (...kkkk!) Sure dude, if that's what you think you were saying. Frankly, your culture war rhetoric and percentages of what you think is someone racial or ethnic make up, is just nonsense. Pure Rubbish!


So your response was a 0. Basically, Elvis, you are stupid. Trump is stupid, and Democrats are American. So if anybody should be clamoring for your post being censored, it should be me, and that is the last thing I want. I want everyone to see how pathetic your response was. Hey Elvis 2008, I also did NOT mention that Looney Tunes characters like, Buggs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Elmer Fudd, Foghorn Leghorn, Wile E. Coyote, The Road Runner and good ol' apple pie & ice cream, are American. But they are 100% American.

So what exactly is the culture war point you're trying to make?


But beyond the arguing, you think censorship is good. Sorry, I do not. And how was this correct? You can still read what I wrote, and in your case if your post was censored, the person who should want it down the most wants it up. That is censorship is but I am not sure what the point of it is. Yeah, want now? Not sure of anything you just mentioned. So once again, my counterpoint to your culture war nonsense, was that Obama, Veep Harris and Sen. Elizabeth Warren are %100 American. PERIOD! No argument here!


We just saw the idiocy with Covid and absolute obedience to leadership. And here you are Spidy worshipping an admin. I wonder how authority humping mongers live with themselves. I used to think it was they hated themselves, and I am sure some do. Now I just wonder what percentage are narcissists who think the government would understand their need for mongering when the truth is government is doing all it can to put mongers in jail. It's hilarious how you love to weave COVID in to everything...kkkk! Your answer to most everything these days is COVID this and COVID that...kkkk!

Hey, weave whatever COVID narrative, into your gish gallop viewpoints about governments, mongerers, self-loathing and culture wars purple dinosaurs, if it helps you sleep at nights. Pray at the alter of COVID and worship the gods of Coronavirus, if it brings you peace. But your COVID rants, have always been just more gish gallop, to me.

Yeah, you're just such a censorship rebel without a pause. Well fell free to show us, how you make your own rules and follow no one rules but your own. Be a good censorship rebel why don't you, and show us how much of a censorship rebel you are?

But given all your ISG admin censorship gish gallop and misplaced rage has been, I don't recall even a peep outta your censorship-ass, when REAL censorship has taken place in any of your book burning / book banning Repub ruby red states. Not a freakin' peep! So please spare me your self-righteous indignation about "ISG censorship"!


So yeah, I do think there is a huge difference with Democrats and Republicans on this issue. Democrats want to be taken care of by government while Republicans want the government to leave us alone. (...kkkk!) Sure Elvis 2008...sure! And I'm sure that's what the big banks, big corporations and GM told themselves back in 2008, right!

Let take a look at a history of Repubs and Dems being "taken care" of by U.S. government bailout of American corporations (and one city), calculated in 2008 dollars:

--Penn Central Railroad, 1970 ($3.3 billion), Lockheed 1971 ($1.4 billion),
--Franklin National Bank 1974 ($7.8 billion), New York 1975 ($9.6 billion),
--Chrysler 1980 ($4.0 billion), Continental Illinois National Bank and Trust Company 1985 ($9.5 billion),
--Savings & Loan 1989 ($293.3 billion), Airline Industry 2001 ($18.6.3 billion),
-- Bear Stearns 2008 ($30 billion), Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac 2008 ($400 billion),
--American International Group (A.I.G.) 2008 ($180 billion), Auto Industry 2008 ($25 billion),
--Troubled Asset Relief Program 2008 ($700 billion), Citigroup 2008 ($280 billion),
--Bank of America 2009 ($142.2 billion)
Sure Elvis 2008...sure!

Elvis 2008
08-13-24, 04:15
Trump is a felon, convict, charlatan, crook, overall cheat (at business taxes, golf and life), sex offender and adulterer. I think those things speaks more to the content of one's character than any hereditary racial and ethnic trait or characteristics, that are out of one's control. Just like you idiot Repubs/QAnon/MAGA numbskulls do, with cartoon and fictional characters, like purple Dinosaurs and purple Teletube Babies. Just Pathetic! Trump is not only is soulless, but is heartless, godless, faithless, gutless, remorseless, emotionless and thoughtless. But all that flawed content of character means nothing to you, perhaps because you can self-relate to his ilk and his emotional and empathetic bankruptcy?First, you have all this venom. Jesus, I swear people have less despicable things to say about murderers on death row.


And then there is this, We still don't know what Trump stands forThe only justification for that kind of attitude is if you were tortured from 2016 to 2020. He was president for 4 years and you do not know what he stands for or how he will govern? Talk about pathetic. Your name calling reached epic levels with these two posts and yet nothing about Harris. Shit, you have no idea why you are voting for her.


It's hilarious how you love to weave COVID in to everything...kkkk! Your answer to most everything these days is COVID this and COVID that...kkkk!Being force fed Covid? Shit, you dumb Dems did that for years. Given it cost us 2 years of freedom and $10 trillion and was a farce, I do not think it gets enough talk. You keep wanting to sweep it in the never mind pile.

But that was not even what the question was about. It was about how you can be such an authority humper and not hate yourself with mongering being illegal. You did not talk about that, but I think it is pretty obvious now you are a follower and the people you follow tell you it is okay to call the 75 million people who voted for Trump stupid, that it is okay to see hookers, and that abortion is the most important issue in the world. Your group must be giving you some pussy to be pushing this mind numbing agenda.

Elvis 2008
08-13-24, 04:23
The fact that Harris is a DemocratYou can stop there.


Thas been #2 in a Democratic Presidential Administration whose positive accomplishments for America and the spread of democracy around the world far outperformed most other Dem Administrations and ALL Repub Administrations is all I would have needed to know about Harris to fully endorse and vote for her. Although it is unavoidable that I do know more about her than that.Yes, she has accomplished so much you cannot name one damn thing she has done. Between Spidy's two posts and your one, you have no reason to vote for her outside of her being a Democrat. You are just going to vote whoever the elites put out so why should we even have voting? We have already identified Spidy as a non-thinking authority humper. Maybe we should add you to the list too.

EihTooms
08-13-24, 08:38
For people who still enjoy considering the Polls, of course:

Three new Polling Services of enough credibility and quality for the 538 Site to post them and factor them into their Election Forecasts, Morning Consult, Big Village and The Bullfinch Group, have Harris / Walz beating Trump / Vance across the board in the Head-to-Heads and 5-Ways, among Registered Voters, Likely Voters, All Americans, on Favorability (all positive for Harris and Walz, all negative for Trump and Vance), etc in the General Election and in the critical Battlegound States of WI, MI and PA, along with every Senate race in those states going to the Dem.

Amazing:

Latest Polls, ending August 10, 2024.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

The 538 Site has yet to re-activate their Who Is Favored To Win feature since the Repub Convention ended with a Lying Clown Crash and Joe Biden decided that was a good time to drop out of the race and shift his support and positive polling trends to his VP.

When they do, I presume Harris / Walz will top their Electoral Vote Forcast with well over 270 EVs and a sizable lead in the Popular Vote. Just as Biden / Harris had been doing quite often post-debate, in the final weeks before Biden dropped out and even during the Repub National Convention Lying Clown Show.

EihTooms
08-13-24, 11:34
You can stop there.

Yes, she has accomplished so much you cannot name one damn thing she has done. Between Spidy's two posts and your one, you have no reason to vote for her outside of her being a Democrat. You are just going to vote whoever the elites put out so why should we even have voting? We have already identified Spidy as a non-thinking authority humper. Maybe we should add you to the list too.The sad reality is, based on all Repub Administration policy and stewardship results for the past 100 years, as a Democrat, EVEN I would be a better president than any or all of the Repubs combined!

And that is even if I governed from my apartment, the restaurants and entertainment venues in Bangkok for the entire 8 years of my presidency.

By stark contrast, what Biden-Harris accomplished in just 3 1/2 years is truly stellar.

Among them:

23 of the Biden/Harris terms greatest accomplishments.
April 2, 2024

https://www.kanedems.org/2024/04/23-of-joe-bidens-greatest-accomplishments-as-president-of-the-united-states/

Thanks again, Joe and Kamala.

CheckMate1
08-13-24, 16:50
For people who still enjoy considering the Polls, of course:

Three new Polling Services of enough credibility and quality for the 538 Site to post them and factor them into their Election Forecasts, Morning Consult, Big Village and The Bullfinch Group, have Harris / Walz beating Trump / Vance across the board in the Head-to-Heads and 5-Ways, among Registered Voters, Likely Voters, All Americans, on Favorability (all positive for Harris and Walz, all negative for Trump and Vance), etc in the General Election and in the critical Battlegound States of WI, MI and PA, along with every Senate race in those states going to the Dem.

Amazing:

Latest Polls, ending August 10, 2024.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

The 538 Site has yet to re-activate their Who Is Favored To Win feature since the Repub Convention ended with a Lying Clown Crash and Joe Biden decided that was a good time to drop out of the race and shift his support and positive polling trends to his VP.

When they do, I presume Harris / Walz will top their Electoral Vote Forcast with well over 270 EVs and a sizable lead in the Popular Vote. Just as Biden / Harris had been doing quite often post-debate, in the final weeks before Biden dropped out and even during the Repub National Convention Lying Clown Show.The convict doesn't know to fight back yet. Everything he's doing is geared toward Biden, which was successful. But now, the campaign just sounds like a Rick Roll meme. Jon Stewart pointed this out at the 12:12 minutes mark of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VW6tHIcGfc.

Spidy
08-14-24, 03:46
OMG. It's a clean sweep for the Dems in these polls. For people who still enjoy considering the Polls, of course:

Three new Polling Services of enough credibility and quality for the 538 Site to post them and factor them into their Election Forecasts, Morning Consult, Big Village and The Bullfinch
Group, have Harris / Walz beating Trump / Vance across the board in the Head-to-Heads and 5-Ways, among Registered Voters, Likely Voters, All Americans, on Favorability (all positive for
Harris and Walz, all negative for Trump and Vance), etc in the General Election and in the critical Battlegound States of WI, MI and PA, along with every Senate race in those states going
to the Dem.

Amazing:

Latest Polls, ending August 10, 2024.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

With such terrific polling numbers trending well for the Harris/Walz campaign, I'm going to start a rumor, that many Repubs, are now are seriously considering, thinking and wondering, if it's too late, to do what the Dems did (since Repubs haven't had an original thought, in over a 100 years) and swap out Trump for Nikki Haley and JD Vance for "QAnon Shaman" (Jacob Chansley), to run a real campaign, out of his halfway house (...kkkk!)


Still a lot of time left.

The convict doesn't know to fight back yet. Everything he's doing is geared toward Biden, which was successful. But now, the campaign just sounds like a Rick Roll meme. Jon Stewart pointed this out at the 12:12 minutes mark of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VW6tHIcGfc.

At 78 yrs of age, Trump has never had to truly fight for anything in this life. I'm not sure he has any REAL fight in him. Typically, men and women with REAL fight, know they are innocent of the injustice charged against them and they are more than willing (even eager) to go to trial and prove their innocence.

I think what you're now seeing is Trump, in "desperation mode". Now that the convict and felon, feels the election slipping away from him, desperation is starting to set in.

Plan B:
By some accounts, I think Trump has already begun to execute "Plan B." So what is "Plan B", you ask? Well, you guessed it:

1. more intensified verbal threats and gaslighting;
2. more accusations of other people cheating and committing fraudulent behavior;
3. throw yet another VP under the bus and blame JD Vance and other sycophants for his failures;
4. more accusations charging Biden...I mean Harris with election interference;
5. break glass in case of emergency and fire-up the 70+ pro-Trump election deniers in key battle ground states officiating the results, to muddy the election waters;

AND of course, last but not least:

6. proclaim everything else, is either fake, unfair, unconstitutional or stacked and rigged against him.
Ergo "Plan B" in a nutshell, is just more Jan 6th type, criminal insurrection stuff.

PS: Yes, there is "still a lot of time left" (as you've said), for Trumps lies, bullying, pretenses and QAnon/MAGA shenanigans of desperation!

EihTooms
08-14-24, 04:21
The convict doesn't know to fight back yet. Everything he's doing is geared toward Biden, which was successful. But now, the campaign just sounds like a Rick Roll meme. Jon Stewart pointed this out at the 12:12 minutes mark of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VW6tHIcGfc.LOL. That comparison sequence is hilarious. He knows his numbskull Repub base won't even notice or care.

EihTooms
08-14-24, 05:04
Why do Repubs, Donald Trump and Elon Musk hate the American Working Men and Women so much?

UAW hits Musk, Trump with federal labor charges over union-busting comments.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/13/musk-trump-uaw-labor-union-x-interview.html?__source=androidappshare


The United Auto Workers filed federal labor charges against Donald Trump and Elon Musk for their comments applauding the practice of firing employees who threaten to strike.

Under federal law, it is illegal to fire workers who threaten to strike.

Trump has been vying for the labor vote in the presidential race against Vice President Kamala Harris, though the UAW has already endorsed the vice president.Listening to the audio of slurring and lisping Trump and addle-brained Musk laughing about this you can actually hear the delight in these two "billionaire" con men criminals' voices in hating the American Working Men and Women.

Spidy
08-14-24, 09:38
Yes, she has accomplished so much you cannot name one damn thing she has done. Between Spidy's two posts and your one, you have no reason to vote for her outside of her being a Democrat ...


The sad reality is, based on all Repub Administration policy and stewardship results for the past 100 years, as a Democrat, EVEN I would be a better president than any or all of the Repubs combined!

And that is even if I governed from my apartment, the restaurants and entertainment venues in Bangkok for the entire 8 years of my presidency.

By stark contrast, what Biden-Harris accomplished in just 3 1/2 years is truly stellar.

Among them:

23 of the Biden/Harris terms greatest accomplishments.
April 2, 2024

https://www.kanedems.org/2024/04/23-of-joe-bidens-greatest-accomplishments-as-president-of-the-united-states/

Thanks again, Joe and Kamala.

Excellent Resumes for them both!

YES! What's not to like and love about the many, many, many accomplishments of the 14th Best President in US Presidential history. And the always supportive Veep Harris, doing her job as
the brilliant understudy.

I guess it good to have a boss who cares deeply for you and your career, and wants you to succeed. Verses one who brandishes you as a traitor, then tries to execute you, with an angry insurrectionist mob, brandishing a noose, flagpoles and sharp or blunt objects, to either have you hung, impaled or beaten to death.

Harris (in the article), has done some good work as VP, on things like immigration, voting rights, gun violence, maternal health care, abortion, broadband expansion, Juneteenth,
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/26/kamala-harris-vice-president-accomplishments/74534954007/

The tone deaf people, like Elvis 2008, that weirdly think Dems don't have strong and compelling reasons to vote for the Harris/Walz ticket, perhaps can explain why so many Repubs and Independents are now voting for Harris, under those same compelling reasons?

Harris/Walz are giving some red states pause and reasons enough for them to now be considered as new battle ground states that could fall. We are hearing from both Repubs and Dems, on the ground in states like Ohio, Texas and North Carolina, that Trump may not carry the day, in these states. And that they think these states are at worst, are "in-play" for Dems and at best are very much "up for grabs" and winnable".

Yes, Thanks again President Biden and Veep Harris, for giving Repubs and Independents, 99 reasons, but being a Dem by virtue, just ain't one!

PS: Got to give Nikki Haley credit, as she maybe right about one thing, when she said:

"Most Americans do not want a rematch between Biden and Trump. So the first party to retire its 80 year old candidate, is going to be the party that wins this election."

We'll see in ROEvember! But it's a good thing Repubs, don't actually listen to their women and pay them lip service! (...kkkk!)

SubCmdr
08-14-24, 11:01
I have never met anyone in my life who went into government by choice. People who go into it do so for security not excellence, and most cannot wait to get their pensions and get the hell out.With all due respect you do not know a thing about how things work in the US Government The idea is for individuals to rotate out of private industry and into the highest levels of government developing contacts with political figures and career government workers in order to further the salary and bonuses they get from their private employers. That is the revolving door of industry insiders.

Gary S. Gensler, is a former investment banker for Goldman Sachs. Can someone say get the fuck! He is Chairman of the SEC now.

You think the president of Goldman Sachs cannot call the Chairman of the SEC and have a private off the record conversation with him?

Nobody points shit like that out. But that is how it happens. So if Trump wins, watch how in fills government positions with those from the highest levels in private industry that are still on his good side.

EihTooms
08-14-24, 16:17
Cook Political Report is one of the more highly respected polling services:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls/election

Swing State Project: August 14, 2024 Toplines
August 14, 2024

https://www.cookpolitical.com/survey-research/2024-swing-state-project/14Aug2024-toplines


The Swing State Project is a collaboration between The Cook Political Report and two pollsters, BSG and GS Strategy Group. Below are the toplines from the August 2024 poll. In total, 2,867 likely voters across seven swing states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) completed the survey.

In the seven states combined, Vice President Kamala Harris leads former President Donald Trump in a head-to-head matchup 48% to 47%.Trump leads Harris only in Nevada in these polls, +3 in the Head-to-Head, +5 in the 5-Way. This was before the audio interview of him and Musk laughing about how much fun it is to fire the American Working Men and Women for daring to expect to be fairly paid and treated, especially union workers.

Trump should have canceled that Republican National Convention, promised to name a VP candidate "in two weeks" and remained silent and hidden in that last basement Men's Room stall he usually hides in when frightened.

CheckMate1
08-14-24, 17:22
In 1991, Lichtman and coauthor Ken DeCell published The 13 Keys to the White House (Madison Books, 1991), a book laying out the 13-key forecasting system initially developed in 1981 by Lichtman and renowned mathematician Vladimir Keilis-Borok. They developed the keys based on their analysis of trends in presidential campaigns since 1860.

The 13 keys are simple to use: if 8 or more of the 13 keys are true for the incumbent party, its candidate will win the election—but if fewer than 8 are true, the challenger will win.

1. Party mandate: After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the US House of Representatives than after the previous midterm elections. FALSE.

2. Contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination. TRUE.

3. Incumbency: The incumbent party candidate is the sitting president. FALSE.

4. Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign. TRUE.

5. Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign. TRUE.

6. Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms. TRUE.

7. Policy change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy. TRUE.

8. Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term. TRUE.

9. Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal. TRUE.

10. Foreign / military failure: The incumbent administration suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs. TRUE.

11. Foreign / military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs. FALSE.

12. Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero. TRUE.

13. Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero. FALSE.

9 out of 13 by mine count.

Spidy
08-14-24, 19:16
With all due respect you do not know a thing about how things work in the US Government The idea is for individuals to rotate out of private industry and into the highest levels of government developing contacts with political figures and career government workers in order to further the salary and bonuses they get from their private employers. That is the revolving door of industry insiders.

Gary S. Gensler, is a former investment banker for Goldman Sachs. Can someone say get the fuck! He is Chairman of the SEC now.

You think the president of Goldman Sachs cannot call the Chairman of the SEC and have a private off the record conversation with him?

Nobody points shit like that out. But that is how it happens. So if Trump wins, watch how in fills government positions with those from the highest levels in private industry that are still on his good side.W/R to the miseducation of Elvis 2008, that is certainly a topic for conversation for another day. A day, I hope I never have to see!

Your point is well made and I would add, that many of those titans, captains and lieutenants of industry, often also personally benefit immensely by moving into government jobs, even after very successful private industrial careers.

One of the most egregious and indelible examples of this, was Hank Paulson the chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, who IMHO, took the gov't job (Sec. of the Treasury under George W. Bush), simply to avoid paying taxes. Boat loads of taxes! The irony in 2008 was that, then George W. Bush, was "paying-off/out" his banker donors, with lucrative tax breaks, to the very people who caused the sub-prime crash of 2008.

In July 2006, Paulson, was able to dodge a tax hit of $200 million, in state and Federal capital gains taxes. By taking advantage of a (George H. W. Bush) 1989 one-time loophole, that gave candidates, in a handful of high level positions, the ability to liquidate his or her entire portfolio without paying a dime in capital gains taxes. Naturally, this was just another corporate welfare tax pretense, dress up to supposedly "attract talent" to gov't jobs.

Needless to say, despite any Repub, right-wing rhetoric or propaganda, about only one class of people receiving gov't welfare, is all bunk. Rest assured corporate welfare is alive, well and kicking (as shown in a previous post of mine, w/r to educating Elvis 2008).

IMHO, much like Trump, there are many men and women, that are less interested in servicing their country and more interested in benefiting and enriching themselves or their cronies (as you've made abundantly clear), off the backs of hard working Americans, they care nothing to very little about.

This casual like disdain, that billionaires and corporate welfare have for American workers, was clearly on display a couple days ago, during the glitchy, strange, rambling and cringy bromance "interview" between Trump & Musk.

Tiny 12
08-14-24, 19:39
Yes, she has accomplished so much you cannot name one damn thing she has done. Au contraire. She's largely responsible for FOSTA and SESTA and shutting down Back Page. She's done a lot for illegal Latin American immigrants, looking to come to the USA to start a new life. She vastly improved Willie Brown's sex life.


...it is okay to call the 75 million people who voted for Trump stupid, that it is okay to see hookers, and that abortion is the most important issue in the world. Your group must be giving you some pussy to be pushing this mind numbing agenda.How are you supposed to feel smart if there aren't people out there you think are stupider than you? That's important to build self esteem and achieve life satisfaction. And there's nothing wrong with seeing hookers. What are you doing on this board anyway? Finally any red blooded American male will lie his ass off to get pussy. Are you gay or something?


Elvis, you are stupid. Trump is stupid, and Democrats are American.Don't begrudge him Elvis. While not true, this is a good way for him to build his self esteem.


For black people, it needs to be said Kamala's black father disowned her. She was putting black men in jail right and left. Particularly with black men, she needs to be told she is not your friend. According to her birth certificate, she is 25% black, and the only reason she claims to be black is she wants your vote. For God's sake, her relatives owned slaves. I have not seen that point be made.What are you complaining about? You're not black. You lock up all the young black men like Kamala was doing and that means more ebony poontang for the rest of us! Thank you Kamala!


All she is doing is going around telling people what they want to hear....chameleon Kamala. Telling people like Willie Brown? What's so bad about that? If my lady tells me I have a large penis and fakes orgasms, that's just icing on the cake.


She kissed Willie Brown's ass. She kissed Biden's ass and now she is kissing the ass of the American people.Well by damn I hope she gets around to me soon. I can't wait to have that wench's tongue up my ass massaging my prostate.


So Matt Taibbi posts this about a woman who has a bat fly into her house and somehow find a way to blame Trump and somehow got her in story in the NYT:

The New York Times ran a guest editorial by Belle Boggs, a North Carolina author who had a bat fly in her house. It didn't bite her, but she needed a sheriff's deputy, a county health nurse, state animal control, the CDC, and an E. Are. Doctor to tell her what to do about that. Naturally, the episode led her to think of Donald Trump:

Now this is what she wrote: After our visit from the bat, our sheriff's department, public health department and university hospital all functioned exactly as designed. The see. The. See. , a huge federal agency that works to protect every one of us from infectious disease, food-borne illness and emerging threats like bird flu, pulled through. The see. The. See. Is part of what Mr. Trump's allies would call the administrative state and is in the cross hairs of Project 2025, which proposes breaking up the agency. I want to believe Kamala Harris is right when she says "we are not going back" to a time when every calamity leaves us on our own.

Back to Taibbi: The conundrum of the column is that the author, who wrote a book called The Art of Waiting: On Fertility, Medicine, and Motherhood, does not know if she and her husband need rabies shots. She's sure the bat "hadn't gotten near our daughters," but uncertainties reign elsewhere. "How deep a sleeper are you?" the county health nurse asks, reminding Boggs the window to act is short. Author and husband ultimately spend $600 in co-pays to get shots and realize they've lived through another experience reminding them of the need to vote blue, at which point the column is written.

And here is his point: The real-life decision tree is simpler. If you know you're too much of a compulsive thinker to get through days of wondering if a rabid bat bit you in your sleep, you don't need the CDC to tell you you need to pay the $600, get the shots, and buy peace of mind.

So this is how dumb Democrats have gotten. They cannot make decisions. They have to have government decide for that. The interesting thing is I would agree with her on the CDC "functioning as designed" but she thinks that means the CDC serves her, and I am like shaking my head and asking. Really? After Covid? So I did a deep dive on how the CDC is functioning with rabies.Well of course she thought of Trump. It's women's intuition. And the truth is a lot scarier than what she paints it to be. Trump not only is going to destroy democracy and lead us to nuclear Armageddon, but he's also the leader of a colony of vampire bats. They're turning our children into blood suckers and yes, spreading rabies and disease. Another reason not to vote for Trump!


So yeah, I do think there is a huge difference with Democrats and Republicans on this issue. Democrats want to be taken care of by government while Republicans want the government to leave us alone.And what's wrong with that? Who doesn't want to sit at home all day, watch television and eat bon bons and be taken care of by the State? Thank you Joe Biden and Kamala Harris!


LOL. Well, teach, you could have made the point that one of Warren Buffet's indicators, the market cap to GDP ratio, was at an all time high. https://www.longtermtrends.net/market-cap-to-gdp-the-buffett-indicator/Come on Elvis. Haven't you heard of tulip mania, the South Sea Bubble, Amway, and other classic money making schemes? There's still a lot laying on the table, ready to be scooped up. Warren's record cash holdings shouldn't be viewed as a bad omen by the way. That's the logical thing if you're in your 90's. Why hold on to a bunch of stocks when you can convert to cash and then use it to party, and bang lots of sugarbabies and high-dollar-hottie hookers?

I could go on, but I'm getting tired of this. Wise up Elvis.

Spidy
08-14-24, 21:17
The only justification for that kind of attitude is if you were tortured from 2016 to 2020. He was president for 4 years and you do not know what he stands for or how he will govern? Talk about pathetic. Your name calling reached epic levels with these two posts and yet nothing about Harris. Shit, you have no idea why you are voting for her. W/R to Veep Harris, see recent post http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2467-American-Politics&p=2937212&viewfull=1#post2937212 and the USA Today article.

So once again (I ask for the 2nd time), remind me what exactly does Trump stands for, other than tax-cuts for the rich and "drill baby drill", as he and Musk, laugh and besmirch working class Americans?


But that was not even what the question was about. It was about how you can be such an authority humper and not hate yourself with mongering being illegal. You did not talk about that, but I think it is pretty obvious now you are a follower and the people you follow tell you it is okay to call the 75 million people who voted for Trump stupid, that it is okay to see hookers, and that abortion is the most important issue in the world. Your group must be giving you some pussy to be pushing this mind numbing agenda.

Well that was a weak and muted response! Wasn't very "rebellious" and "rebel" like, now was it?

That response was very much indicative of the Trump/Vance campaign, that has gone from "hero to zero", in no time at all.

Where did that so called "censorship rebel" disappear to? The dude, who's fighting for the poor, weak and oppressed ISGers, suffering under your delusional so called, "brutal ISG Administration regime"?

You know the "censorship rebel", that has vowed to liberate and free the oppressed and enslaved ISG masses? Where's that guy??? (...kkkk!)

With the latest Trump/Roger Stone/RNC hack, by Iranians (according to the FBI) and sensitive campaign information has been leaked to the media/pubic, Repubs are now advocating that the contents of the hack should not be used as political ammunition, considering the source of the information comes from one of "our" staunch enemies. Remind you of anything?

Yes, much like the hypocrisy of Elvis 2008's so called ISG sensorship fake outrage and being censured, it was never something that he or Repubs every pay attention to, UNTIL of course, it happens to them.

Back in 2016, Trump and Repubs didn't hesitate to use the Russian backed leaked emails to WikiLeaks, taken from the hacked Clinton/DNC servers, by "our" (but apparently not one of Trump's) enemies, to enhance his campaign's chances of winning.

Today the Repubs, want the media and Dems, to give them the courtesy and goodwill, they NEVER give Hillary Clinton in 2016. Yet more hypocrisy from the Repubs.

Meanwhile, across the country, REAL censorship is taking place, primarily by Repubs in red states. Dictionaries and classic literary works, such as "The Catcher in the Rye", "The Grapes of Wrath", "To Kill a Mockingbird" and "The Bluest Eye", are being banned, to serve a backward Repub/QAnon/MAGA political, Project 2025 agenda.

So tell me again, Elvis 2008, is it all forms of censorship you despise or only when in applies you, like the recent Trump/RNC hack?