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The Kremlin could not be more delighted by their Puppet Trump's Cabinet nominees and Administration staff appointments. All that messaging and "news" copy passed to and through Fux News, Sinclair News, Congressional Repubs, etc and into the enthusiasticslly receptive skulls of MAGAs, Direct Repubs and Bothsider / Neithersiders really paid off.
However, as everyone here knows by now, they also need to give a special nod of thanks to that relative handful of angry Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims spread across the only three battleground / swing states that mattered in determining the winner and came through beautifully for the Kremlin's purposes.g.
Well, I suppose that really means they owe a great debt to Netanyahu himself, really.
KremlinTV Gushes About Trump's Cabinet Picks.
"If they are allowed to get in, they will quickly dismantle America, brick by brick. They are so great!
https://crooksandliars.com/2024/12/kremlintv-gushes-about-trumps-cabinet
To be honest, I thought you were grossly exaggerating. Then I saw it myself.
We now have a whole team of Manchurian Candidates supported by 50% of the population. No Hollywood visionary could've ever imagined this real-life nightmare.
Asian Steve 22
12-05-24, 11:36
Yes, evidently you are having problems understanding what literally means. Trump never threatened to put anybody in jail without investigation. That's LITERALLY the truth. And if you take all the writers editorializing with it, you will not find a quote in any of those articles with Trump saying the things you claim. Why would you need a writer to translate English for you, LOL 😂128514;128514;128514;? Yes it's a novel approach to some, use your own brain, Trump isn't speaking a foreign language. If you understand English you don't need a news writer to translate Trump's words. I guess it's novel for some that need to rely on a writer because they are too intellectually lazy to form their own opinion based on the raw information.
"Reading the articles by taking out everything the writer says" is a very novel approach. Did you train long?
So it wasn't a threat because Trump didn't SPECIFICALLY threaten to lock him up by forgoing the due process? Is that the gist of your statement?
Asian Steve 22
12-05-24, 11:38
You're just scared your cushy worker benefits will go to the military if Trump forces you Frenchies to contribute more to NATO.
Not even president yet, but orange crazy dangerous shameful Trump already wants to show to the world, choosing number 1 in the world for tourism, my little so beautiful France. But I don't welcome his lack of respect. He should better stay in Florida. Under Biden, he had contacts with crazy dangerous shameful Putin, kind of twins, when he doesn't even respect US constitution. Both dangerous for our world.
LoveItHere69
12-05-24, 16:57
Something to think about and compare. Look at the families of most politicians, movie types, and sports people. Most are horrible. Now look at Trump's family and even his grand children. Kinda tells you a lot about the guy without even knowing him. Strong close family.
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2024/12/01/video-james-carville-torches-harris-campaign-almost-unfathomable-damage-inflicted-democrat-brand/Isn't that the same James 'Carnival' who was giddy with joyous anticipation just days before November 5th because it was so obvious Harris had the edge over Trump?
Uh. There was a Joker in the deck that everyone knew about well before the election when both camps were maneuvering and campaigning to win them over because it was understood they were likely to be so critical to winning precisely those three states that made the difference between a President-elect Trump and a President-elect Harris; the Muslim community in PA, MI and WI.
Then, suddenly, a funny thing happened; when it actually DID come down to that Joker in the deck popping up in someone's card hand, everyone got selective amnesia about how and why they were so concerned about them and pursuing them leading up to the election. LOL. And just 114,848 of them spread over those three states voting for Trump instead of Harris made all the difference.
But James 'Carnival' and so many others don't want to accept that such a small sliver of incomprehensibly silly mindset voters produced such a horrific, history-altering result. Oh no no no. It must have been due to some vast and complex network of failed philosophy, results, messaging and campaigning.
I liken it to the refusal after all these decades to accept the fact that one lone gunman, a pathetic loser in almost every way, firing off a couple of bullets into his target in Dealy Plaza, Dallas, Texas was all it took to set in motion generations of dark clouds in America.
Yep. No more than 114,848 angry Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims spread among just those three states fired those 2-3 shots and very, very likely effectively put an end to this 240+ year American experiment. Hard for some to accept, I know. But there it is.
LOL. Of course, pro Repub pundits like Bill Maher and in most of Mainstream Media would much prefer Democrats "examine their conscience", "reaaccess their whole Party mission" and dump what they have been doing to win more votes than Repubs in practically every presidential election since 1992, come damn close to winning the presidency again this time with a female of mixed minority ethnicity against a 2nd term white old man candidate and would have won back the House if not for Repubs rigging it like never before and despite their policies and stewardship producing every Historic Economic Recovery, Economic Expansion and Jobs Creation of the past 100 years including the one America is experiencing right this very minute and none of the Historic Economic Downturns and Jobs Destruction including the one the incoming Repub produced the first time around as well as the Repub before him, the one before him, the one before him, etc.
Because it had to be some momentous force that created such a momentous potential decline for America on November 5th, right? Nope. Just a Joker in the deck that everyone seemed to know about beforehand but just can not afterwards accept was as capable of producing as much if not quite a bit more damage to the country as one lone Dallas gunman or 15 hijackers performing a jihad against America in the cockpits of 3 airliners on one sunny September morning.
Elvis 2008
12-05-24, 18:01
I voted for the Pro Russia Pro Putin candidate as did 77 million other fine Americans.
So had they better love his Pro Russia Cabinet picks.
I Love Vladimir, Long Live the Motherland!!Indeed! The only reason we have not had nuclear war is how rational Putin has been.
Like Trump said about the enemies within, the Pelosis and Schiffs are way more dangerous to America than Putin ever was.
Something to think about and compare. Look at the families of most politicians, movie types, and sports people. Most are horrible. Now look at Trump's family and even his grand children. Kinda tells you a lot about the guy without even knowing him. Strong close family.Which family from which wives? I think the wife who accused Donald of raping her and who was actually the financial and media star celebrity of the family while he was the embarrassing financial joke of the family was pretty strong.
Asian Steve 22
12-05-24, 18:04
LOL. No it wasn't just some angry muslims in 3 states that switched their votes. The democrats lost over 7 million votes from the free mail in ballot election in 2020. Ballot harvesting isn't as easy when states don't loosen their mail in ballot laws and just allow everybody to have a ballot without having to go through the trouble of registering to get one. That's the difference between 2020 and 2024.7 million mail in ballots. I understand ballot harvesting is not illegal, but it's much harder to get a voter to agree to have to register a ballot to harvest than it is to harvest a ballot that automatically gets mailed to their home without them having to do anything. If you're just strictly talking about the electoral college, Biden won the 5 battleground states of Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan by a combined smaller total than Trump did in those 5 states combined this time around. So you can easily use that excuse for 2020 as well. But in the country as a whole, 7 million less people felt like getting their vote in this time around. Most likely because it didn't get automatically mailed to their home so that a ballot harvester couldn't just knock on their house and get an easy vote.
Isn't that the same James 'Carnival' who was giddy with joyous anticipation just days before November 5th because it was so obvious Harris had the edge over Trump?
Uh. There was a Joker in the deck that everyone knew about well before the election when both camps were maneuvering and campaigning to win them over because it was understood they were likely to be so critical to winning precisely those three states that made the difference between a President-elect Trump and a President-elect Harris; the Muslim community in PA, MI and WI.
Then, suddenly, a funny thing happened; when it actually DID come down to that Joker in the deck popping up in someone's card hand, everyone got selective amnesia about how and why they were so concerned about them and pursuing them leading up to the election. LOL. And just 114,848 of them spread over those three states voting for Trump instead of Harris made all the difference.
But James 'Carnival' and so many others don't want to accept that such a small sliver of incomprehensibly silly mindset voters produced such a horrific, history-altering result. Oh no no no. It must have been due to some vast and complex network of failed philosophy, results, messaging and campaigning.
I liken it to the refusal after all these decades to accept the fact that one lone gunman, a pathetic loser in almost every way, firing off a couple of bullets into his target in Dealy Plaza, Dallas, Texas was all it took to set in motion generations of dark clouds in America.
Yep. No more than 114,848 angry Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims spread among just those three states fired those 2-3 shots and very, very likely effectively put an end to this 240+ year American experiment. Hard for some to accept, I know. But there it is.
LOL. Of course, pro Repub pundits like Bill Maher and in most of Mainstream Media would much prefer Democrats "examine their conscience", "reaaccess their whole Party mission" and dump what they have been doing to win more votes than Repubs in practically every presidential election since 1992, come damn close to winning the presidency again this time with a female of mixed minority ethnicity against a 2nd term white old man candidate and would have won back the House if not for Repubs rigging it like never before and despite their policies and stewardship producing every Historic Economic Recovery, Economic Expansion and Jobs Creation of the past 100 years including the one America is experiencing right this very minute and none of the Historic Economic Downturns and Jobs Destruction including the one the incoming Repub produced the first time around as well as the Repub before him, the one before him, the one before him, etc.
Because it had to be some momentous force that created such a momentous potential decline for America on November 5th, right? Nope. Just a Joker in the deck that everyone seemed to know about beforehand but just can not afterwards accept was as capable of producing as much if not quite a bit more damage to the country as one lone Dallas gunman or 15 hijackers performing a jihad against America in the cockpits of 3 airliners on one sunny September morning.
LOL. The Administrator removed them so you can't find them.
I suggested to the Administrator that he or she delete the post where I inserted my comment in parentheses into your quote, as you requested. ... Both of our posts were deleted, not just mine. (...kkkk!) Nice admission of guilt!
Yeah, that's right, your insertion of inappropriate words (against ISG guidelines), I DID NOT WRITE, was the impetus and lead to admin stepping in to do a blanket delete.
The truth at last! Your welcome!
Elvis 2008
12-05-24, 18:52
But probably spot on also.
Imagine if you will Hunter sitting in a cell for trafficking heroin and / or fentanyl for CCPland, all strung out on dope, willing to spill the beans on the whole Scumbag Biden crew.
"just let me out of here, I really need a fix" ROTFLMMFAO!!
I'd scumbag Joe thinking of this also, and pardons the whole lot of them to preemptively protect them all from the Junkie?No doubt a baby like Hunter would be singing like a canary within a day.
After the first 3 minutes of obligatory Trump bashing, Jon Stewart actually roasted Hunter, Joe, and the Dems pretty well here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5BcIHPMAHw.
What was the best line of all this crap? Yes, after saying Hunter Biden's laptop was not real, Joe Biden pardoned Hunter for what was on the laptop.
Yes, Hunter was pardoned for the time he "may have committed" crimes with his Ukraine connections. Any apologies coming Trump's way now for that bogus Ukraine impeachment? Any link between the crimes Hunter "may have committed" in Ukraine and the idiotic Ukraine war, Dems, hmmm?
And why are we supposed to hate Putin again?
The latest parondgate fiasco is here. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fauci-schiff-and-cheney-may-receive-preemptive-pardons.
Among those discussed for potential pardons are high-profile figures like Senator-elect Adam Schiff (D-CA), former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), and Dr. Anthony Fauci, the former head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
Their justification is that Trump will seek retribution, with their concerns growing more urgent following Trump's announcement last weekend appointing Kash Patel as FBI director. Patel, a staunch ally of Trump, has vowed to pursue the former president's critics, heightening concerns among Biden aides about possible investigations or indictments against officials who have opposed Trump in the past.
What are Dems so afraid of? Don't these people and Hunter have nothing to fear if they did not break the law? Or are they afraid that prosecutors can tun an allegedly incorrect expense entry into a crime? Why that would mean you could literally make up the law on your own and then claim someone was breaking it. Thing is I do not think you need to invent new laws. If January 6 was allegedly an interference into government function, WTF do you call Russiagate? Or the pandemic?
The biggest lie, one Xpartan just told, was that Trump has anything to do with Hunter. Hunter was convicted by Biden's own DOJ making his pardoning his son all that much worse. Why are you wasting your time with a prosecution if you are just going to pardon Hunter later? Did you really think he was innocent or did you think you could bully a jury into saying he was innocent? In any other case where someone is that fucking guilty, they take a plea deal.
Hopefully, this is the last we hear with Loony Tooms, Soy Boy Spidy the swamp creature, and Xpartan the war hawk on rule of law. What makes them such Democratic douches is they monger like crazy and swear up and down they are law abiding citizens.
The Trump / Repub 'squeaker' of a win just got squeakier, taking the Repub expertise at rigging elections to new heights:
GOP Gerrymandering in NC Tipped the Scales of Congress, Outgoing Lawmaker Says.
The MAGA Republicans in Raleigh didnt care about reflecting the will of the people, Rep. Wiley Nickel wrote.
https://truthout.org/articles/gop-gerrymandering-in-nc-tipped-the-scales-of-congress-outgoing-lawmaker-says/
In an op-ed for the Raleigh News & Observer, Nickel noted that the result of the presidential election in North Carolina and the results of other races in the state showed close to a 50-50 split, representative of the purple status North Carolina is known for. However, because of Republican gerrymandering last year, the congressional delegation leaned Republican, with a 10-4 split.
That six-seat difference is wider than the five-seat advantage that Republicans have over Democrats in the House of Representatives. Had the delegation had an even 7-7 split (as it has under fairer maps), control of the House of Representatives would have been granted to Democrats, not Republicans, as that chamber of Congress is set to have 220 seats for the GOP and 215 seats for Democrats.
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North Carolina Republicans were able to redraw the maps in their favor after winning control of the state legislature in 2020. But the maps they drew were determined to be partisan and racially discriminatory gerrymanders by the state Supreme Court, and they were ordered to redraw them. Republicans sued over that decision to the federal Supreme Court.
Eventually, that court, too, ruled against them, but the delay allowed for statewide elections to shift the balance of the state Supreme Court to conservative control. Republicans relitigated their maps to that changed court, which ruled in their favor, allowing the maps to be drawn to their advantage.
This "what if" line of reasoning appeals to you and some MAGA Repubicans. "What if" 100% of Muslims had voted for Harris? "What if" Republicans had just gotten 11,284 more votes in Georgia, 21,347 more votes in Wisconsin, and so on?
I saw the sanctimonious, delusional partisan Democrat, Wiley Nickel, on MSNBC's Morning Joe yesterday. He's the subject of the article you linked to above at bullshitout.org. Since 1946, Democrats have cheated much more effectively than Republicans, in getting more than their fair share of House seats. During that period, since 1946, Democrats got on average 3.9% more House seats than they deserved based on the House popular vote. That's an average of 17 more House seats, every election! (.039 x 435 total House seats = 17)
Republicans managed to turn the table in 2012 to 2016, but since then Democrats have gotten a marginally higher % of House Seats than votes.
See the last column in this table compiled by the Democrat-controlled Brookings Institution if you want to verify:
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/vitalstats_ch2_tbl2.pdf
The table goes through 2018. Here's the difference between the Democratic percentage of seats won, and the percentage of votes won since then:
2020 +0.7%
2022 +1.2%
2024 +1.6%.
The 2024 results reflect a final tally of 220 GOP House seats and 215 Democrat seats. The Republicans won the House by a 5 seat margin, not one seat, as you keep repeatedly saying. .
So, Republicans are up to the same dirty tricks in North Carolina that Democrats (and Republicans) have been up to in other states for at least the last 78 years. Here are some stats for comparison.
North Carolina: Harris received 47.6% of the popular vote; House Democrats got 28.6% of the seats.
New York: Trump 44%; House Republicans 27%
Illinois: Trump 44%; House Republicans 18%
Oregon: Trump 41%; House Republicans 17%
New Mexico: Trump 46%; House Republicans 0%
You can reproduce using the following sites and switching states:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/north-carolina-house-results
https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/results/north-carolina
Admittedly I could probably come up with Republican states just as wildly unfair as the blue states above. Still, historically, the Democrats have cheated more effectively than Republicans, as clearly shown by the numbers. Democrat think tanks and media sources attempt to show that Republicans are better at gerrymandering House seats, but the numbers clearly show they're wrong. Crafty Democrats.
You're just scared your cushy worker benefits will go to the military if Trump forces you Frenchies to contribute more to NATO.I didn't vote for Trump, or Harris. But there are two good things about the Trump victory.
1. The senseless war in Ukraine is more likely to come to an end. Neoconservatives will no longer have absolute control over foreign policy and defense.
2. The USA is less likely to become like France. Bill Clinton in his 2nd term was a good president. Obama went to the left of Clinton, and Biden to the left of Obama. And Kamala Harris is to the left of Biden. Say Kamala had been elected president. And Democrats had won the House and the Senate, after having ejected reasonable members of their caucus like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. And say they stayed in power for 20 years. We'd be in the same shape as France. Maybe 25% worse off than we could be otherwise in terms of per capita income. And in danger of becoming the next Greece. Harris may not be as crazy as Francois Hollande, but her preferred policies are more likely to bring economic stagnation to America than some other French leaders.
(...kkkk!) Nice admission of guilt!
Yeah, that's right, your insertion of inappropriate words (against ISG guidelines), I DID NOT WRITE, was the impetus and lead to admin stepping in to do a blanket delete.
The truth at last! Your welcome!Selective quoting makes sense when you're trying to address a specific point or avoid violating forum rules. It's not a good thing to do to try to mislead. Here's the post you were replying to in its entirety.
LOL. The Administrator removed them so you can't find them.
I suggested to the Administrator that he or she delete the post where I inserted my comment in parentheses into your quote, as you requested. But not for the reason you cited. Rather the topic of conversation violated or was on the edge of violating the forum rule prohibiting discussion of sex with m*****. You may wish to familiarize yourself with that, as you seem intent on returning to the topic.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=ForumRules
Both of our posts were deleted, not just mine.
PVMonger and I also had a couple of posts deleted, for reasons I don't remember. Also a comment I made in a Bangkok report years ago about the size of my penis was deleted because I made a reference which I thought was very complementary to a certain group of people. The administrator however apparently didn't agree.
Those are the only instances I remember of my posts being deleted or modified.
Selective quoting makes sense when you're trying to address a specific point or avoid violating forum rules. It's not a good thing to do to try to mislead. Here's the post you were replying to in its entirety. Yes indeed, that was very good of you, to again replay your admission to the truth, that when you insert words, into another ISGer's post, you are being fraudulent in your actions. I'm so glad you recognize that truth.
Again your Welcome!
And the lies continue. https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/11/getting_to_the_bottom_of_matt_gaetz_s_nomination_and_withdrawal.html.
Greenberg told Barr's DOJ he could implicate Gaetz in exchange for leniency, and the present investigation into Gaetz was opened.
(...kkkk!) What lies? The only lies, are the ones you're telling yourself!
Isn't this just typical, coming from the morally corrupt, MAGA / Repub lunatic fringe, to suggest a DOJ, AG or the office, shouldn't investigate and follow up on credible leads with regards to criminal and corrupt actions of their politicians.
When a partisan corrupt Repub Florida AG and office, hands out pitiful plea deals and a "slap on the wrist", to pedos and sex traffickers like Matt Gaetz and Jeffery Epstein, of course MAGA is going to think, "...there's nothing to see here". But we all now know the truth about Jeffery Epstein and it's the exact same with Matt Gaetz.
Matt Gaetzs Alleged Sex Crimes, Explained
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/matt-gaetz-alleged-sex-crimes-explained-1235173669/
It's just hilarious, how you, Elvis 2008 and Tiny 12, the MAGA defenders and sympathizers of Matt Gaetz pedo behavior, can't see the long standing pattern of criminal sexual behavior, is not worthy of holding office, is just sad!
Take the Lastest MAGA INCEL\Misogynist with more sexual misconduct:
Pete Hegseth, is yet another, in a long line of MAGA / Repub ranting lunatics, racist idiots, incels and misogynists with mommy issues (...kkkk!), who is woefully unqualified, has zero job credibility, for the position and office of SecDef.
In a damning email, his own mother (for fuck's sake), drops a dime on him and accuses him of mistreating women for years.
Text of the Email That Pete Hegseth's Mother Sent Him.
"You are an abuser of women, that is the ugly truth, and I've no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around and uses women for his own power and ego, you are that man and have been for years. And as your mother it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth. "
"You're abuse over the years to women (dishonesty, sleeping around, betrayal, debasing, belittling) needs to be called out...On behalf of all the women (and I know it's many) you have abused in some way, I say...get some help and take an honest look at yourself. You are an abuser of women."
NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/29/us/politics/hegseth-email-text.html Nov 29th, 2024
Under pressure from Pete, she later, in a "damage control" puff piece interview, she disavows what she said in the email, but the whole episode with his mother, was just seen as creepy, cringy and further evidence of how much of a scumbag, Pete Hegseth really is, to have involved his mother in such a terrible and desperate attempt, to backpedal and walk-back, his pattern of unfit behavior for office.
But surely you're not suggesting, the good-folk here at ISG, have anything to do with that kind of rape or pedo criminal behavior, Matt Gaetz and Pete Hegseth, are associated with, whom you are defending?
Last but not least, remember Elvis 2008, judging from Hegseth example, your momma knows best, and she certainly knows, who you, incels, misogynists and abusers of women really are! (...kkkk!).
MarquisdeSade1
12-05-24, 21:29
(...kkkk!) What lies? The only lies, are the ones you're telling yourself!
Isn't this just typical, coming from the morally corrupt, MAGA / Repub lunatic fringe, to suggest a DOJ, AG or the office, shouldn't investigate and follow up on credible leads with regards to criminal and corrupt actions of their politicians.
When partisan Repub Florida AG and the office, that hands out pitiful plea deals and a "slap on the wrist", to pedos and sex traffickers like Matt Gaetz and Jeffery Epstein, of course MAGA is going to think, "...there's nothing to see here". But we all now know the truth about Jeffery Epstein and it's the exact same with Matt Gaetz. For now, Joel Greenberg is the only fall guy.
Matt Gaetzs Alleged Sex Crimes, Explained
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/matt-gaetz-alleged-sex-crimes-explained-1235173669/
It's just hilarious, how you, Elvis 2008 and Tiny 12, the MAGA defenders and sympathizers of Matt Gaetz pedo behavior, can't see the long standing pattern of criminal sexual behavior, is not worthy of holding office, is just sad!
Take the Lastest MAGA INCEL\Misogynist with sexual misconduct:
Pete Hegseth, is yet another, in a long line of MAGA / Repub ranting lunatics, racist idiots, incels and misogynists with mommy issues (...kkkk!), who is woefully unqualified, has zero job credibility, for the position and office of SecDef.
In a damning email, his own mother (for fuck's sake), drops a dime on him and accuses him of mistreating women for years.
Text of the Email That Pete Hegseth's Mother Sent Him. "...You are an abuser of women, that is the ugly truth, and I've no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around and uses women for his own power and ego, you are that man and have been for years. And as your mother it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth. You're abuse over the years to women (dishonesty, sleeping around, betrayal, debasing, belittling) needs to be called out...On behalf of all the women (and I know it's many) you have abused in some way, I say...get some help and take an honest look at yourself. You are an abuser of women."
NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/29/us/politics/hegseth-email-text.html Nov 29th, 2024
Under pressure from Pete, she later, in a "damage control" puff piece interview, she disavows what she said in the email, but the whole episode with his mother, was just seen as creepy, cringy and further evidence of how much of a scumbag, Pete Hegseth really is, to have involved his mother in such a terrible and desperate attempt, to backpedal and walk-back, his pattern of unfit behavior for office.
But surely you're not suggesting, the good-folk here at ISG, have anything to do with that kind of rape or pedo criminal behavior, Matt Gaetz and Pete Hegseth, are associated with, whom you are defending?
Last but not least, remember Elvis 2008, your mommy knows best and she certainly knows, who you, incels and misogynists are! (...kkkk!).Keep writing you are their best Cheerleaders!!
MarquisdeSade1
12-05-24, 21:37
Isn't that the same James 'Carnival' who was giddy with joyous anticipation just days before November 5th because it was so obvious Harris had the edge over Trump?
Uh. There was a Joker in the deck that everyone knew about well before the election when both camps were maneuvering and campaigning to win them over because it was understood they were likely to be so critical to winning precisely those three states that made the difference between a President-elect Trump and a President-elect Harris; the Muslim community in PA, MI and WI.
Then, suddenly, a funny thing happened; when it actually DID come down to that Joker in the deck popping up in someone's card hand, everyone got selective amnesia about how and why they were so concerned about them and pursuing them leading up to the election. LOL. And just 114,848 of them spread over those three states voting for Trump instead of Harris made all the difference.
But James 'Carnival' and so many others don't want to accept that such a small sliver of incomprehensibly silly mindset voters produced such a horrific, history-altering result. Oh no no no. It must have been due to some vast and complex network of failed philosophy, results, messaging and campaigning.
I liken it to the refusal after all these decades to accept the fact that one lone gunman, a pathetic loser in almost every way, firing off a couple of bullets into his target in Dealy Plaza, Dallas, Texas was all it took to set in motion generations of dark clouds in America.
Yep. No more than 114,848 angry Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims spread among just those three states fired those 2-3 shots and very, very likely effectively put an end to this 240+ year American experiment. Hard for some to accept, I know. But there it is.
LOL. Of course, pro Repub pundits like Bill Maher and in most of Mainstream Media would much prefer Democrats "examine their conscience", "reaaccess their whole Party mission" and dump what they have been doing to win more votes than Repubs in practically every presidential election since 1992, come damn close to winning the presidency again this time with a female of mixed minority ethnicity against a 2nd term white old man candidate and would have won back the House if not for Repubs rigging it like never before and despite their policies and stewardship producing every Historic Economic Recovery, Economic Expansion and Jobs Creation of the past 100 years including the one America is experiencing right this very minute and none of the Historic Economic Downturns and Jobs Destruction including the one the incoming Repub produced the first time around as well as the Repub before him, the one before him, the one before him, etc.
Because it had to be some momentous force that created such a momentous potential decline for America on November 5th, right? Nope. Just a Joker in the deck that everyone seemed to know about beforehand but just can not afterwards accept was as capable of producing as much if not quite a bit more damage to the country as one lone Dallas gunman or 15 hijackers performing a jihad against America in the cockpits of 3 airliners on one sunny September morning.Everyone's wrong but Bullshitting Bangkok Bob, yes Carville Dick Morris Mark Penn Rahm Emannuel et al.
Everyone says the psychotic Trans feminist crazies like Spidy have highjacked their party except you.
That's cool, stay the course, I agree with you everything is fine, nothing to see here folks just move along.
Now get back to watching the Joy Reid show on a loop 24/7.
Elvis 2008
12-05-24, 23:42
But we now know the truth about Jeffery Epstein and it's the exact same with Matt Gaetz.Yeah, Epstein was tried and convicted as was Hunter Biden. Epstein was killed in jail, and Hunter was pardoned. Gaetz and Hegseth were investigated and not charged.
In this case of Gaetz, the reason were the witnesses against him were unreliable, scummy people engaged in criminal activity. In Hegseth's case, it was a married woman at a hotel party who claimed she did not like how Hegseth treated women, fucked him, and then later lied to her husband about where she was. Hegseth said they had consensual sex but the woman said she had sex against her will, but this same woman's story contradicted the testimony of other guests and she had accused a different man of raping her in similar circumstances.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14142497/Leaked-email-Pete-Hegseth-mother-stunning-allegation.html
Doe's husband was also at the hotel and texted her close to 2 am, wondering where she was.
When she returned to her room at 4 am, she reportedly lied to her husband that she had fallen asleep on someone's couch.
End of link. Yeah, that is what you do after you are raped, lie to your husband.
As for Hegesth's mother, there is this, https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14142497/Leaked-email-Pete-Hegseth-mother-stunning-allegation.html.
When reached by the Times for comment, Penelope Hegseth. An executive business coach by trade. Gave a completely different story and totally took back what she'd written.
'It is not true. It has never been true. I know my son. He is a good father, husband,' before calling the Times 'disgusting' for publishing the email.
She says that it was written 'in anger, with emotion' at the time Hegseth and Samantha were divorcing.
End of link. This is the issue with this believe all women crap. When I was in my divorce, my mother could have easily written a letter as my ex-wife was so good at hiding what a psycho she was. Once people saw the real her, the question went from how could you have cheated on her to how could you have put up with her for so long?
And my own mother met some of my sugar babies and it was quite the eye opener for her. She saw respectable, attractive, ethical, hard working women who just needed a little help financially. The image of women being preyed upon and plied with drugs and threats to have sex was gone.
So I am done with this sexual accusation crap, and I hope all Republicans are. I have a lot more concern whether a future Secretary of Defense is of sound character than his love life and what some female psycho he has been with once thinks of him. I had a lot more concerns with Kavanaugh and his disdain for the 4th amendement than I did with what he did at 15.
At this point, I have to ask, Spidy the Soy Boy, what are you doing here? Do you even see women who are P4 P? Do you get the legal importance of distinguishing between helping woman out and paying for sex? I swear to God it seems like you have never had to deal with any psycho women, and that makes me wonder if you have ever seen any women at all.
I voted for the Pro Russia Pro Putin candidate as did 77 million other fine Americans.
So had they better love his Pro Russia Cabinet picks.
I Love Vladimir, Long Live the Motherland!!Say what you want about MDS, but he's honest. You can't take it away from him.
He's the only one here who openly wants Trump to rule like a dictator.
He's the only one here who admits that he wants "full scale" Civil War (although maybe not anymore since this election "wasn't stolen" from him). BTW, does anyone know why?
He's the only one here who publicly announces his undying love for tyrant and mass murderer Vladimir Putin.
Unlike pathetic hypocrites who inflate their rhetoric to appear as champions of democracy, defenders of the Constitution, supporters of the rule of law, and even compassionate allies of the Ukrainian people (which is the funniest of all their lets-pretends), MDS doesn't mince words at all. He knows what he wants and isn't scared to say it.
Well, kudos!
During that period, since 1946, Democrats got on average 3.9% more House seats than they deserved based on the House popular vote. That's an average of 17 more House seats, every election! Tooms, I made a mistake. Democrats actually only got on average 9 more House seats than they deserved in elections since 1946, not 17 more seats. You can reproduce my number using the 3. 9% above along with the average of 238 Democratic House seats since the 1946 election from this link.
https://history.house.gov/Institution/Party-Divisions/Party-Divisions/
238 - (238/1. 039) = 9 more seats than Democrats deserved.
Still 9 seats is significant. Nowadays it can sometimes mean the difference in which party controls Congress.
MarquisdeSade1
12-06-24, 03:06
You're just scared your cushy worker benefits will go to the military if Trump forces you Frenchies to contribute more to NATO.I know Siri and I'm pretty sure you nailed him on the forehead LOLOLOL.
MarquisdeSade1
12-06-24, 03:19
I didn't vote for Trump, or Harris. But there are two good things about the Trump victory.
1. The senseless war in Ukraine is more likely to come to an end. Neoconservatives will no longer have absolute control over foreign policy and defense.
2. The USA is less likely to become like France. Bill Clinton in his 2nd term was a good president. Obama went to the left of Clinton, and Biden to the left of Obama. And Kamala Harris is to the left of Biden. Say Kamala had been elected president. And Democrats had won the House and the Senate, after having ejected reasonable members of their caucus like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. And say they stayed in power for 20 years. We'd be in the same shape as France. Maybe 25% worse off than we could be otherwise in terms of per capita income. And in danger of becoming the next Greece. Harris may not be as crazy as Francois Hollande, but her preferred policies are more likely to bring economic stagnation to America than some other French leaders.John Thomas rec'd approx 90000 votes in the PA Senate race.
Casey lost by approx 16000 votes had John Thomas stole a few more votes, Casey would of won.
Maybe Chase "the Gun" who rec'd 0. 04%, had rec'd approx 2. 4% instead he could of threw it to Harris the whoor, is that what you wanted?
Did you vote for that or not? You seem quite schizophrenic.
So what about?
1. The senseless war in Ukraine is more likely to come to an end. Neoconservatives will no longer have absolute control over foreign policy and defense.
2. The USA is less likely to become like France. Bill Clinton in his 2nd term was a good president. Obama went to the left of Clinton, and Biden to the left of Obama. And Kamala Harris is to the left of Biden. Say Kamala had been elected president. And Democrats had won the House and the Senate, after having ejected reasonable members of their caucus like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. And say they stayed in power for 20 years. We'd be in the same shape as France. Maybe 25% worse off than we could be otherwise in terms of per capita income. And in danger of becoming the next Greece. Harris may not be as crazy as Francois Hollande, but her preferred policies are more likely to bring economic stagnation to America than some other French leaders.
Long Live Vladimir and the Motherland!!
Greenberg told Barr's DOJ he could implicate Gaetz in exchange for leniency, and the present investigation into Gaetz was opened....Good post Elvis, and that's absolutely true.
Respectfully maybe we should stop replying to Spidy. Anybody with half a brain knows the accusations he's leveling at you and me about p**** are ridiculous. However it may just get us in trouble with Admin, and that kind of behavior is against the ISG code of honor.. So perhaps better to discuss other topics. "Don't feed the troll."
This "what if" line of reasoning appeals to you and some MAGA Repubicans. "What if" 100% of Muslims had voted for Harris? "What if" Republicans had just gotten 11,284 more votes in Georgia, 21,347 more votes in Wisconsin, and so on?
I saw the sanctimonious, delusional partisan Democrat, Wiley Nickel, on MSNBC's Morning Joe yesterday. He's the subject of the article you linked to above at bullshitout.org. Since 1946, Democrats have cheated much more effectively than Republicans, in getting more than their fair share of House seats. During that period, since 1946, Democrats got on average 3.9% more House seats than they deserved based on the House popular vote. That's an average of 17 more House seats, every election! (.039 x 435 total House seats = 17)
Republicans managed to turn the table in 2012 to 2016, but since then Democrats have gotten a marginally higher % of House Seats than votes.
See the last column in this table compiled by the Democrat-controlled Brookings Institution if you want to verify:
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/vitalstats_ch2_tbl2.pdf
The table goes through 2018. Here's the difference between the Democratic percentage of seats won, and the percentage of votes won since then:
2020 +0.7%
2022 +1.2%
2024 +1.6%.
The 2024 results reflect a final tally of 220 GOP House seats and 215 Democrat seats. The Republicans won the House by a 5 seat margin, not one seat, as you keep repeatedly saying. .
So, Republicans are up to the same dirty tricks in North Carolina that Democrats (and Republicans) have been up to in other states for at least the last 78 years. Here are some stats for comparison.
North Carolina: Harris received 47.6% of the popular vote; House Democrats got 28.6% of the seats.
New York: Trump 44%; House Republicans 27%
Illinois: Trump 44%; House Republicans 18%
Oregon: Trump 41%; House Republicans 17%
New Mexico: Trump 46%; House Republicans 0%
You can reproduce using the following sites and switching states:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/north-carolina-house-results
https://www.cnn.com/election/2024/results/north-carolina
Admittedly I could probably come up with Republican states just as wildly unfair as the blue states above. Still, historically, the Democrats have cheated more effectively than Republicans, as clearly shown by the numbers. Democrat think tanks and media sources attempt to show that Republicans are better at gerrymandering House seats, but the numbers clearly show they're wrong. Crafty Democrats.You mean like "What if" the Majority in the House and Senate were determined by the number of popular votes each Party got across the country?
And "What if" the presidential candidates had enough time and money to campaign and run constant ads in every state as much as they go to "battle" in order to "swing" the only votes that ultimately matter in the Battleground / Swing States as they clearly did with the Muslim comminity demo in those three ultimately determinative Battleground / Swing States this time around?
But they don't.
IF they did, the popular votes in the House, Senate and Presidency would very possibly be quite different than they are now that one Party's candidate and ad money often does not even show up very much in traditionally tried and true Red or Blue States and heavily gerrymandered House districts.
Particularly, again, since winning the popular vote for the Party or the presidential candidate has zero to do with who "deserves" the Senate Majority, House Majority or Presidrbcy.
Just sayin'.
Something to think about and compare. Look at the families of most politicians, movie types, and sports people. Most are horrible. Now look at Trump's family and even his grand children. Strong close family.Any batter can take two strikes and still hit a home run. It is the average that batter has over his career that puts him in the Hall of Fame.
Please read the article below. Let me know if you would like to retract any part of your statement.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/relationships/love-sex/donald-trumps-family-journey-marriages-divorces-and-children/photostory/115014511.cms
Kinda tells you a lot about the guy without even knowing him.Curious to know what you think his history of marriage tells us about President Elect Trump?
You're just scared your cushy worker benefits will go to the military if Trump forces you Frenchies to contribute more to NATO.I hate a crazy shameful small dick like Trump, to behave like this with women. For me, he is Putin brother. I don t welcome him in France. When I love Russia for the country and Ukrainians and Russians are true brothers, but I will always support Ukrainians versus criminal Putin, like I support Palestinians versus criminal Netanyahou. For freedom for both to get a country and peace. But US know so few about outside world, except money. US are less than 5% of world population and so scared of China, when I m not, when I don t buy chinese shit products, like I would not buy US low quality for most products, compare to Western European standards. I m pretty sure Trump will fuck deeply US, when he is master of bullshit.
Everyone's wrong but Bullshitting Bangkok Bob, yes Carville Dick Morris Mark Penn Rahm Emannuel et al.
Everyone says the psychotic Trans feminist crazies like Spidy have highjacked their party except you.
That's cool, stay the course, I agree with you everything is fine, nothing to see here folks just move along.
Now get back to watching the Joy Reid show on a loop 24/7.Muslim voters once abandoned the GOP. Now they may leave the Democrats.
Anger about Gaza helped Donald Trump win the most Arab American city in the country, while support for Kamala Harris was cut in half.
Nov. 10, 2024
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/muslim-voters-abandoned-gop-now-may-leave-democrats-rcna179304
Trump won 42% of the vote a nearly 15 percentage-point gain from 2020 in Dearborn, where more than half of residents are of Middle Eastern descent. Harris, meanwhile, received just 36% in the city, barely more than half of Bidens 2020 vote share. Stein received 18% of the vote, compared to less than 1% nationwide.
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"Our final exit poll of American Muslim voters confirms that opposition to the Biden administrations support for the war on Gaza played a crucial role, leading to a sharp drop in support for Vice President Harris, said CAIR National Government Affairs Director Robert S. McCaw.
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"Our efforts in mobilizing the community demonstrated that Muslim Americans are no longer taken for granted. Trump has acknowledged our role, and we are ready to work alongside his administration to advocate for policies that support peace and unity, said Rabiul Chowdhury, a co-founder of Muslims for Trump, which was active in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.
Why do you doubt your lord and savior about this and now suddenly side with James 'Carnival'?
BTW, the numbers can not be refuted by anyone; less than a 115,000 vote swing from Harris to Trump or Trump to Harris spread over just three significantly Muslim-demo battleground / swing states would have and did decide the outcome of the presidential election, the exact states where Trump's new favorite political activist organization, Muslims for Trump, mobilized their anti-Biden-Harris ground game in order to "give him the presidency. ".
Has it not yet occurred to you that there is NO FUTURE JOB AND INCOME OPPORTUNITY for 'Carnival', Penn, Morris, et al to simply admit Harris or any other Dem candidate should have worked harder to explain how stupid and sure to be regretted the reasoning was behind any Muslims ever voting for Trump rather than blaming it on a vast array of complex Total Party issues that they and only they are brilliant enough to overhaul from top to bottom?
Lololol. Again, P. T. Barnum grossly underestimated how often a sucker is born, probably because his estimate was made prior to the MAGA movement.
Why can't all Trumpies be like Marquis?
Say what you want about MDS, but he's honest. You can't take it away from him.
He's the only one here who openly wants Trump to rule like a dictator.
He's the only one here who admits that he wants "full scale" Civil War (although maybe not anymore since this election "wasn't stolen" from him). BTW, does anyone know why?
He's the only one here who publicly announces his undying love for tyrant and mass murderer Vladimir Putin.
Unlike pathetic hypocrites who inflate their rhetoric to appear as champions of democracy, defenders of the Constitution, supporters of the rule of law, and even compassionate allies of the Ukrainian people (which is the funniest of all their lets-pretends), MDS doesn't mince words at all. He knows what he wants and isn't scared to say it.
Well, kudos!From Trump on top all the way down to MDS in his preferred position as a bottom, all MAGAs and Trumpies celebrate and admit to these Anti-America, America-hating sentiments and hopes amongst themselves.
Yes, he is different in that he cuts through any pretense otherwise here. But even as far back as Reagan, he and his cult followers were proud to openly and without shame declare War Against America; That this free and democratic government of, by and for We, The People is "not the solution to our problems" but instead "IS the problem. ".
Repubs have been plotting, planning, scheming, lying, cheating, stealing and acting accordingly in response to that Ronald Reagan War Whoop Against America ever since.
Asian Steve 22
12-06-24, 15:58
LOL it's called sarcasm. And chicken little, FYI by US law Trump can't rule like a dictator any more than emperor Obama. I mean how much of their stuff didn't pass over their 3 terms. And make no mistake about it, Obama tried to rule like an emperor, hell everybody knows he still calls the shots for the whole party up to 2024. So much so NBC called him a bigger loser in the election than Harris.
Fun fact Putin only does land grabs when democrats are in office. If people like you can't understand why tons of voters that voted for biden switched over to Trump, then you're going to keep losing with that dictator rhetoric. Treating people that consider voting for Trump like they were and at zis instead of trying to focus on why they were considering abandoning the current administration and being empathetic with their concerns probably cost your party 5 million votes. Your party managed to alienate legal Mexicans, black men, and Muslims, 3 groups whose 5-10% swing from biden to Trump decided the election. I mean how the hell does a black candidate actually do worse with blacks than a guy that voted against black kids being on integrated school busses in the 1980's and who got called out for it by said candidate that he turned around and made his VP. LOL you literally can't make any of this stuff up. Just stop with the strongman talk, the reason why Harris lost, she was a worse candidate than Trump. She had no vision, Biden had a approval rating lower than Trump's pre-covid and post- covid. She couldn't answer a legitimate, unrehearsed question, even from her friends on The View.
Tons of Democrat politicians, donors, and yes, voters have said as much. It's time to grow up and lose the strongman / dictator excuses and actually understand why she lost. People that voted for Biden; black men, Muslims and Latinos, changed their minds and put Trump over the top. He actually did better with college graduates of all races and worse with white older Americans. But keep up the dictator excuses without actually caring about the real reasons they lost and watch more GenZ voters turn red while the old GOP voters age out. I mean 40% of women under 30. Even Reagan wasn't getting that. And naturally, more people become conservative as they age and gain more life experiences. Millennials probably won't be any different as the counterculture population also became more conservative with age. GenZ is already getting there. This has to be alarming for the Democrat party, and it goes way beyond Trump, who is probably the one candidate in the republican party they should be able to beat in a general election. Independent voters (those that don't vote in primaries) will probably find people like JD Vance, Tim Scott, and Marco rubio even more easy to vote for.
Say what you want about MDS, but he's honest. You can't take it away from him.
He's the only one here who openly wants Trump to rule like a dictator.
He's the only one here who admits that he wants "full scale" Civil War (although maybe not anymore since this election "wasn't stolen" from him). BTW, does anyone know why?
He's the only one here who publicly announces his undying love for tyrant and mass murderer Vladimir Putin.
Unlike pathetic hypocrites who inflate their rhetoric to appear as champions of democracy, defenders of the Constitution, supporters of the rule of law, and even compassionate allies of the Ukrainian people (which is the funniest of all their lets-pretends), MDS doesn't mince words at all. He knows what he wants and isn't scared to say it.
Well, kudos!
Asian Steve 22
12-06-24, 16:00
And Biden won the battleground states by even less, what's your point?
Muslim voters once abandoned the GOP. Now they may leave the Democrats.
Anger about Gaza helped Donald Trump win the most Arab American city in the country, while support for Kamala Harris was cut in half.
Nov. 10, 2024
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/muslim-voters-abandoned-gop-now-may-leave-democrats-rcna179304
Why do you doubt your lord and savior about this and now suddenly side with James 'Carnival'?
BTW, the numbers can not be refuted by anyone; less than a 115,000 vote swing from Harris to Trump or Trump to Harris spread over just three significantly Muslim-demo battleground / swing states would have and did decide the outcome of the presidential election, the exact states where Trump's new favorite political activist organization, Muslims for Trump, mobilized their anti-Biden-Harris ground game in order to "give him the presidency. "..
Asian Steve 22
12-06-24, 16:07
If you honestly think that's why Harris lost 7 million people that voted for Biden, then prepare to keep losing cause you're not even being intellectually honest at this point. They literally voted against Trump in 2020 and had buyers remorse. Those voters cost Harris the election, not the MAGA voters. Be prepared to keep bleeding independent voters if your party is as lazy at being intellectually honest as you are being.
Say what you want about MDS, but he's honest. You can't take it away from him.
He's the only one here who openly wants Trump to rule like a dictator.
He's the only one here who admits that he wants "full scale" Civil War (although maybe not anymore since this election "wasn't stolen" from him). BTW, does anyone know why?
He's the only one here who publicly announces his undying love for tyrant and mass murderer Vladimir Putin.
No! I have it on impeccable authority here, in the Repub Party, from President-elect Trump and all throughout Mainstream Media that since 12 Noon on January 20, 2021 virtually NO American has had a job, a pay increase, money to buy eggs, bacon, crypto, stocks, anything, to travel, buy gas, pay rent or anything else and they are just waiting patiently for 12 Noon on January 20, 2025 to finally get back to living and tasting an egg again.
So this has to be that "fake news" we have all been hearing about:
Number of 401 (k) millionaires and average balances rose in 2024, Fidelity finds.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/06/number-of-401k-plan-and-ira-millionaires-hits-fresh-high.html?__source=androidappshare
Helped by consistent savings efforts and market gains, average retirement account balances reached fresh highs in the third quarter, according to Fidelity, the largest 401(k) plan provider in the U.S.
The number of 401(k) and IRA millionaires also hit all-time highs and, for the first time, millennials joined the group.
As the markets tested record highs, retirement savers reaped the benefits.
The average 401(k) plan balance ended the third quarter up 23% from a year earlier, at $132,300 the highest average on record, according to a new report by Fidelity, the nations largest provider of 401(k) plans. The financial services firm handles more than 49 million retirement accounts altogether.
The average individual retirement account balance also rose 18% year over year to $129,200 in the third quarter of 2024.
Number of 401(k) millionaires jumps 9.5%
The number of 401(k) accounts with a balance of $1 million or more jumped to a record 497,000 as of Sept. 30, up 9.5% from the second quarter, according to Fidelity.
Similarly, the number of IRA-created millionaires increased by nearly 5% to a record 418,111.Still the best:
If you honestly think that's why Harris lost 7 million people that voted for Biden, then prepare to keep losing cause you're not even being intellectually honest at this point. They literally voted against Trump in 2020 and had buyers remorse. Those voters cost Harris the election, not the MAGA voters. Be prepared to keep bleeding independent voters if your party is as lazy at being intellectually honest as you are being.Maybe it wasn't about Biden's or the Democrats' shortcomings at all but that voter turnout for Dems went back to a more normal level from the record high of 2020 but Trump voters had 4 years of getting fired up to vote in favor of his bigotries and criminality while being kept in their comfortable zero or low-information bubble by Mainstream Media not being clear enough about the threat his campaign promises pose to their freedom, health and economic well-being:
Trump Supporters Knew Exactly Who They Were Voting For.
Nov. 13, 2024
https://time.com/7175545/trump-election-authoritarian-democrats-loss/
But too many of the election postmortems have treated the results of this race as a kind of up-and-down vote on Democrats, as if Trumps victory is entirely about Democratic shortcomings. The truth is that voters who turned out on Nov. 5 were also voting for something, and for someone. That person was Donald Trump a man who has not exactly been shy about his priorities, his bigotries, and his character, a convicted felon who has also been found liable of sexual assault.
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Given that Americas lowest-information voters tend to be Trumps core constituency, it wouldnt be surprising if many of them didnt know, say, the minutiae of Project 2025 or the plan to dismantle the administrative state utilizing a unitary theory of the executive. They also may not have any idea about what his tariff plan might do to consumer prices, or that the Affordable Care Act and Medicaid are now on the chopping block, or what his mass deportation scheme would mean for things construction costs and economic productivity not to mention the price of food. But its hard to imagine that voters are ignorant about his headliner policies, including tariffs and immigration. And at some point, if voters choose not to learn much about the people theyre electing to power outside of a general vibe, thats not the fault of Democrats or liberals. Its certainly Democrats and liberals problem but Im not sure theyre the primary ones causing it.And, of course, there was that difficult to predict and mitigate relative handful of angry, Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims spread across the three decisive battleground / swing states whose last minute mobilization to deny the Biden Administration a 2nd term gave Trump his squeaker of a win.
And Biden won the battleground states by even less, what's your point?One obvious point to make is that even though Biden-Harris won the Electoral College Vote by a similarly narrow margin in 2-3 battleground / swing states as Trump-Vance did this time, Biden-Harris also won the popular vote by a decisive margin, the clear Majority and an all-time record number of votes that still stands, Biden-Harris did not then spend the following weeks crowing about winning by such a "landslide" into a "mandate" that, what the hell, the American people ought to be four-square behind any numbskull Cabinet Secretaries Biden wanted to nominate no matter how blatantly obviously unfit they would be to work as Costco or Sam's Club greeters much less in positions of true life or death, economic and national security importance.
Elvis 2008
12-06-24, 21:22
And, of course, there was that difficult to predict and mitigate relative handful of angry, Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims spread across the three decisive battleground / swing states whose last minute mobilization to deny the Biden Administration a 2nd term gave Trump his squeaker of a win.The stupidest take since the pandemic was Trump's fault. Anyone can cite changes races and sexes as being the difference in the election, and yet you want to cherry pick a fight against Arab Americans. Your side ran a shit campaign, and you are a cherry picking, sick racist. Why don't you admit you fucked up and admit you were wrong like a man?
In your twisted and fucked up head, the only parties who can do no wrong are God and Democrats.
Elvis 2008
12-06-24, 21:23
This shit cracked me up:
Afroman and Hunter got high.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgLD1yhxNik
MarquisdeSade1
12-06-24, 21:53
I hate a crazy shameful small dick like Trump, to behave like this with women. For me, he is Putin brother. I don t welcome him in France. When I love Russia for the country and Ukrainians and Russians are true brothers, but I will always support Ukrainians versus criminal Putin, like I support Palestinians versus criminal Netanyahou. For freedom for both to get a country and peace. But US know so few about outside world, except money. US are less than 5% of world population and so scared of China, when I m not, when I don t buy chinese shit products, like I would not buy US low quality for most products, compare to Western European standards. I m pretty sure Trump will fuck deeply US, when he is master of bullshit.When I don t buy chinese shit products, like I would not buy US low quality for most products, compare to Western European standards.
You might get away with saying Deutschland has decent standards but I find it funny you didn't say France does LMFAO.
I'm willing you bet large money you don't zoom around FKKland In a Renault LMAO.
And what kind of phone do you own? If you don't own an American Iphone you carry a turd around in your pocket 24/7.
MarquisdeSade1
12-06-24, 21:59
Say what you want about MDS, but he's honest. You can't take it away from him.
He's the only one here who openly wants Trump to rule like a dictator.
He's the only one here who admits that he wants "full scale" Civil War (although maybe not anymore since this election "wasn't stolen" from him). BTW, does anyone know why?
He's the only one here who publicly announces his undying love for tyrant and mass murderer Vladimir Putin.
Unlike pathetic hypocrites who inflate their rhetoric to appear as champions of democracy, defenders of the Constitution, supporters of the rule of law, and even compassionate allies of the Ukrainian people (which is the funniest of all their lets-pretends), MDS doesn't mince words at all. He knows what he wants and isn't scared to say it.
Well, kudos!He's the only one here who admits that he wants "full scale" Civil War (although maybe not anymore since this election "wasn't stolen" from him AGAIN).
https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/how-the-2020-election-was-rigged/
MarquisdeSade1
12-06-24, 22:04
From Trump on top all the way down to MDS in his preferred position as a bottom, all MAGAs and Trumpies celebrate and admit to these Anti-America, America-hating sentiments and hopes amongst themselves.
Yes, he is different in that he cuts through any pretense otherwise here. But even as far back as Reagan, he and his cult followers were proud to openly and without shame declare War Against America; That this free and democratic government of, by and for We, The People is "not the solution to our problems" but instead "IS the problem. ".
Repubs have been plotting, planning, scheming, lying, cheating, stealing and acting accordingly in response to that Ronald Reagan War Whoop Against America ever since.https://youtu.be/UT54jFVWdMo?si=Ngvb8WKl4LqptwWp
And you're way way to old for me and you're not my type, not to even mention I'm not into LBs ROTFLMMFAO.
MarquisdeSade1
12-06-24, 22:24
If you honestly think that's why Harris lost 7 million people that voted for Biden, then prepare to keep losing cause you're not even being intellectually honest at this point. They literally voted against Trump in 2020 and had buyers remorse. Those voters cost Harris the election, not the MAGA voters. Be prepared to keep bleeding independent voters if your party is as lazy at being intellectually honest as you are being.What if they are being as intellectually honest as they can be.
But the issue is a serious deficiency instead?? I will posit here that it is usually more the latter than the former!!
Long Live My Dearest Vladimir and The Motherland.
MarquisdeSade1
12-06-24, 22:47
Say what you want about MDS, but he's honest. You can't take it away from him.
He's the only one here who openly wants Trump to rule like a dictator.
He's the only one here who admits that he wants "full scale" Civil War (although maybe not anymore since this election "wasn't stolen" from him). BTW, does anyone know why?
He's the only one here who publicly announces his undying love for tyrant and mass murderer Vladimir Putin.
Unlike pathetic hypocrites who inflate their rhetoric to appear as champions of democracy, defenders of the Constitution, supporters of the rule of law, and even compassionate allies of the Ukrainian people (which is the funniest of all their lets-pretends), MDS doesn't mince words at all. He knows what he wants and isn't scared to say it.
Well, kudos!This might be the funniest thing I've ever seen written about me in my entire life, here's some food for thought, imagine what you could learn from me.
If this thread wasn't censored?
by US law Trump can't rule like a dictatorWhat in the holy name of crap are you talking about? Don't you know Trump already has absolute immunity from prosecution while in office? Oh, come, ye unfaithful! I predict even some of you fanboys will be terrified within the next 4 years--maybe not you, though. And not Marquis, that's given, but some of you dimwits will. Totally.
I hate a crazy shameful small dick like Trump, to behave like this with women. For me, he is Putin brother. I don t welcome him in France. When I love Russia for the country and Ukrainians and Russians are true brothers, but I will always support Ukrainians versus criminal Putin, like I support Palestinians versus criminal Netanyahou. For freedom for both to get a country and peace. But US know so few about outside world, except money. US are less than 5% of world population and so scared of China, when I m not, when I don t buy chinese shit products, like I would not buy US low quality for most products, compare to Western European standards. I m pretty sure Trump will fuck deeply US, when he is master of bullshit.I studied French one year in high school and so, as service to the membership, will translate this message. Please note the use of the word "US," to denote Frenchmen. It means the same thing as "we" or "us" and is always capitalized when referring to people of French nationality.
Trump behaves badly with women. Therefore, he is crazy, shameful, and has a small penis. He and Vladimir Putin are brothers. I won't greet him if he comes to France by placing my cheek against his and making a smacking sound with my lips. I love Russia. Ukrainians and Russians are brothers. I will always support Ukrainians, Vladimir Putin, Palestinians, criminals and Netanyahu in their struggle to get their own homeland and live together in peace. We (the French) know so little about the outside world, but we do understand money. We are less than 5% of the population and very scared of China. I don't buy feces from China. And I do not buy feces from the USA either, as it's low quality. Western Europe has the highest standards for feces. I'm pretty sure Trump will penetrate us (Frenchmen) deeply. He is the master of bovine feces.
MarquisdeSade1
12-07-24, 02:26
No doubt a baby like Hunter would be singing like a canary within a day.
After the first 3 minutes of obligatory Trump bashing, Jon Stewart actually roasted Hunter, Joe, and the Dems pretty well here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5BcIHPMAHw.
What was the best line of all this crap? Yes, after saying Hunter Biden's laptop was not real, Joe Biden pardoned Hunter for what was on the laptop.
Yes, Hunter was pardoned for the time he "may have committed" crimes with his Ukraine connections. Any apologies coming Trump's way now for that bogus Ukraine impeachment? Any link between the crimes Hunter "may have committed" in Ukraine and the idiotic Ukraine war, Dems, hmmm?
And why are we supposed to hate Putin again?
The latest parondgate fiasco is here. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fauci-schiff-and-cheney-may-receive-preemptive-pardons.
Among those discussed for potential pardons are high-profile figures like Senator-elect Adam Schiff (D-CA), former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), and Dr. Anthony Fauci, the former head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
Their justification is that Trump will seek retribution, with their concerns growing more urgent following Trump's announcement last weekend appointing Kash Patel as FBI director. Patel, a staunch ally of Trump, has vowed to pursue the former president's critics, heightening concerns among Biden aides about possible investigations or indictments against officials who have opposed Trump in the past.
What are Dems so afraid of? Don't these people and Hunter have nothing to fear if they did not break the law? Or are they afraid that prosecutors can tun an allegedly incorrect expense entry into a crime? Why that would mean you could literally make up the law on your own and then claim someone was breaking it. Thing is I do not think you need to invent new laws. If January 6 was allegedly an interference into government function, WTF do you call Russiagate? Or the pandemic?
The biggest lie, one Xpartan just told, was that Trump has anything to do with Hunter. Hunter was convicted by Biden's own DOJ making his pardoning his son all that much worse. Why are you wasting your time with a prosecution if you are just going to pardon Hunter later? Did you really think he was innocent or did you think you could bully a jury into saying he was innocent? In any other case where someone is that fucking guilty, they take a plea deal.
Hopefully, this is the last we hear with Loony Tooms, Soy Boy Spidy the swamp creature, and Xpartan the war hawk on rule of law. What makes them such Democratic douches is they monger like crazy and swear up and down they are law abiding citizens.What makes them such Democratic douches is they monger like crazy and swear up and down they are law abiding citizens.
Text of the Email That Pete Hegseth's Mother Sent Him. ". You are an abuser of women, that is the ugly truth, and I've no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around and uses women for his own power and ego, you are that man and have been for years. And as your mother it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth. You're abuse over the years to women (dishonesty, sleeping around, betrayal, debasing, belittling) needs to be called out. On behalf of all the women (and I know it's many) you have abused in some way, I say. Get some help and take an honest look at yourself. You are an abuser of women. ".
I know a couple Mongers in this thread personally have fucked several hundred and some thousands of putas.
But they agree with Blue haired Spidys posting this lolololol.
I consider this NYT email A True Badge of Honor.
Hegeseth for President 2028.
This guy has way less baggage than Grab them by the Pussy, Our Lord and Savior and he was just elected for the 3rd time in Spidys Roevember no less ROTFLMMFAO!
May all cucks for the Indian Whoor drink some Drano ala Bette.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2024/11/05/disneys-hocus-pocus-2-star-bette-midler-suggests-drinking-drano-if-trump-wins/
Another unfiltered, proud and loud MDS MAGA Trump wish is in the works:
GOP and Musk unveil a threat to Social Security
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2024-12-03/column-musk-and-the-gop-unveil-an-attack-on-social-security-based-on-lies
You may have been tempted to believe Donald Trump when he swore, along with some of his Republican colleagues, to protect Social Security. If so, the joke may be on you.
That concern emerged Monday when Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) uncorked a tweet thread on X labeling Social Security a classic bait and switch and an outdated, mismanaged system.
Twenty-three minutes after Lee posted the first of his tweets, it was retweeted by Elon Musk, who has been vested by Trump with a portfolio to root out inefficiencies in the government. Musk led his retweet with the comment "interesting thread"; if that wasnt an explicit endorsement, it matched his way of amplifying others tweets, tending to give them within the Musk-iverse.
Lees tweet thread, along with Musks apparent concurrence, serves as an outline of the arguments the GOP may use to undermine faith in Social Security, the better to soften it up for reforms that will translate into costs imposed on retirees, disabled workers and their dependents.
I recently reported on all the ways that Trump could quietly or secretly undermine his pledge to protect Social Security (see hyper-link here in the article). Lees thread and Musks apparent endorsement are different they amount to a frontal attack on the program.
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Lee said that was why he was running for the Senate, and added, Medicare and Medicaid are of the same sort. They need to be pulled up.
So here he is, right out of the box.
(See more in link)Appropriate here too:
MarquisdeSade1
12-07-24, 07:25
The stupidest take since the pandemic was Trump's fault. Anyone can cite changes races and sexes as being the difference in the election, and yet you want to cherry pick a fight against Arab Americans. Your side ran a shit campaign, and you are a cherry picking, sick racist. Why don't you admit you fucked up and admit you were wrong like a man?
In your twisted and fucked up head, the only parties who can do no wrong are God and Democrats.https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2024/12/03/bill-maher-suggests-ending-his-hbo-show-over-return-of-trump-im-shting-my-pants/
When I don t buy chinese shit products, like I would not buy US low quality for most products, compare to Western European standards.
You might get away with saying Deutschland has decent standards but I find it funny you didn't say France does LMFAO.
I'm willing you bet large money you don't zoom around FKKland In a Renault LMAO.
And what kind of phone do you own? If you don't own an American Iphone you carry a turd around in your pocket 24/7.Audi S5 V8 was not good enough for me, so I improved a lot front balance and powerful with my french brain, to go for 300 in Germany. Not a Tesla, nor a Fond, when I had a European Ford RS500 Cosworth for 25 years, I improved with 50% more powerful. My phone operator propose me so many models since years, but I answer them I refuse chinese brands, I don t want Samsung, I keep my old Sony still working. Same like in FKK, I m a high quality guy, when USA can t compete with France for quality, when I would for sure choose a Renault Megane RS, a race car with perfect balance to go fast and efficient.
I studied French one year in high school and so, as service to the membership, will translate this message. Please note the use of the word "US," to denote Frenchmen. It means the same thing as "we" or "us" and is always capitalized when referring to people of French nationality.
Trump behaves badly with women. Therefore, he is crazy, shameful, and has a small penis. He and Vladimir Putin are brothers. I won't greet him if he comes to France by placing my cheek against his and making a smacking sound with my lips. I love Russia. Ukrainians and Russians are brothers. I will always support Ukrainians, Vladimir Putin, Palestinians, criminals and Netanyahu in their struggle to get their own homeland and live together in peace. We (the French) know so little about the outside world, but we do understand money. We are less than 5% of the population and very scared of China. I don't buy feces from China. And I do not buy feces from the USA either, as it's low quality. Western Europe has the highest standards for feces. I'm pretty sure Trump will penetrate us (Frenchmen) deeply. He is the master of bovine feces.US mean USA. Putin and Netanyahou are criminals, when Palestinians deserve a real country, same like Israel was given to Jews. Ukraine also deserve to keep their land of course. Putin also tries to fuck now elections in Romania and Georgia when these citizens don t want him. Trump behaving like a bad clown gives so bad image for USA. This is my meaning as a citizen of the world. From Trump behavior with women, he can only be asian size, when I m really not.
Yes, even though ChristoFascist Mike is gazing in lust over a technically useless Less Than a Pink Tinkle House Majority now when it doesn't matter, starting in January, when it does matter, he will be presiding over a 1-Seat, Less Than a Pink Tinkle Repub Majority in the House where his vote, as the Speaker of the House, will presumably serve as a tie-breaker whenever the opportunity and occasion is that all of the other Repubs in the House are present, vote either Yes or No and no more than a single 1 one of them has a mind of his / her own about anything that comes up.
This is due to the fact that Donald Trump apparently barely knows anyone as Anti-America as he is and hates America enough to be slavishly devoted to his Anti-America, America-Last and To Be Crashed agenda outside of Repubs who were already elected by MAGAs for that reason and, no surprise, employees of Fux News.
House GOP grapples with historically small majority.
Republicans performance in election may seem strong, but a reality check shows how closely divided Congress is.
https://www.deseret.com/politics/2024/12/05/republican-majority-house-speaker-mike-johnson/
The GOP secured a 220-215 majority with final uncalled race flipping blue.
Speaker Mike Johnson assured 'bicameral cooperation' and said vacant seats would be quickly filled.
Despite past productivity struggles, House GOP believe this will improve with trifecta in place.
Speaker Mike Johnson is tasked with running a tight ship with his tiny House Republican majority. On Tuesday night, after the final uncalled race in California flipped blue, Republicans secured a 220-215 majority.
But these numbers dont tell the whole story, after President-elect Donald Trump plucked several lawmakers from Congress to fill various positions in his Cabinet.
Starting in January, Rep. Elise Stefanik of New York will serve as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, and Rep. Mike Waltz of Florida as Trumps national security adviser. That brings down the number to 218.
But thats not all. Former Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida, who received a Cabinet nomination from Trump but later withdrew his name from consideration, said he wont return to his House seat.
This brings the margin down to 217-215. The New York Times reports the Republican majority is on track to be the smallest in the lower chambers history since the Great Depression, leaving little room for infighting and defections.
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"We have nothing to spare, but all of our members know that we talked about that today, as we do constantly, that this is a team effort that weve got to all row in the same direction.
In unified government, were all on the exact same team, the speaker added. This isnt junior varsity. ... And we have to think that way and operate that way.
He promised bicameral cooperation between the House and the Senate and assured Republicans would fill the soon-to-be vacant seats. The GOP is excited to be a part of the great reform that will be welcomed by President-elect Trump, he said.Uh. Trump had a bigger MAGA House Majorty and control of the Senate for the 1st two years of his prior disastrous term. Yet he only got one lone and ridiculous Tax Cuts and Jobs Act economic legislation passed on the last working day of his first year in office that added Trillions to the deficit yet created at least a million fewer jobs with it in those below average pre Trump's Pandemic years than in the far superior previous Obama-Biden years without it.
After that his only "legislative" accomplishments were Emergency Relief Welfare Checks to American farmers and manufacturers in the throes of his failed Trade War Tariff Tax Hikes on the American Consumer and more of them sent out to damn near everyone in the country after his historically worst economic and national security decisions of all time ushered in and exacerbated Trump's Pandemic and all of the predictable deaths, economic ruin, millions upon millions of jobs wiped out, inflation and opportunistic corporate price gouging that followed.
Honestly, with Trump chipping away at the very legislative body he needs to get virtually any of his America-hating agenda passed and funded in that first critical year of his Lame Duck so-called presidency as well as his insistence on nominating Cabinet Secretaries who know fuck-all nothing about so much as the general topic and purpose of those Cabinet Departments, why it almost looks like he expects to, correction, hopes to do absolutely nothing but play lots and lots and lots of golf during that traditionally most productive year and just coast on the terrific, remarkable, Envy of the World Economy he inherited from Biden-Harris, taking undeserved credit for everything good about it along the way, but that he suckered his rabid, zero to low-information supporters into believing was the "Worst Economy Ever", with no emergency price reductions on anything so Americans can finally buy and eat an egg for the first time in 4 years. Nothing.
But I'll bet he will still manage to pass at least something that will add Trillions to the deficit yet benefit almost no one other than his already wealthy cronies.
Pretty much exactly what he did in his first term.
I would welcome much more Zelensky who fight for his country freedom than so bad image and behavior orange fat Trump who should have stayed in Florida, waiting for January and maybe Capitol to be attacked again, when I m a 100% pure french, no other blood, since Charles Martel.
Putin and Netanyahou are criminals, when Palestinians deserve a real country, same like Israel was given to Jews. Correction. They used to "deserve" their country. They blew their chance in 1948. They said no, we want it all. They said we'll throw Israel into the sea. They started a war and lost it. Then another war and lost it. And another one (and lost it too). Then they turned to terrorism. When you're waging one war after another and blow people up, when you rape, torture and murder innocent civilians, when you mutilate corpses so that even their gender can't be determined, when you cut out fetuses out of the bellies of pregnant women, when you burn children and their parents alive, you lose all the fucking rights you might've had once in history. Every one of them.
Tough fucking luck.
MarquisdeSade1
12-07-24, 20:19
Audi S5 V8 was not good enough for me, so I improved a lot front balance and powerful with my french brain, to go for 300 in Germany. Not a Tesla, nor a Fond, when I had a European Ford RS500 Cosworth for 25 years, I improved with 50% more powerful. My phone operator propose me so many models since years, but I answer them I refuse chinese brands, I don t want Samsung, I keep my old Sony still working. Same like in FKK, I m a high quality guy, when USA can t compete with France for quality, when I would for sure choose a Renault Megane RS, a race car with perfect balance to go fast and efficient.Especially the US military, if not for us you would be speaking Deutsch LMFAO.
MarquisdeSade1
12-07-24, 20:26
Audi S5 V8 was not good enough for me, so I improved a lot front balance and powerful with my french brain, to go for 300 in Germany. Not a Tesla, nor a Fond, when I had a European Ford RS500 Cosworth for 25 years, I improved with 50% more powerful. My phone operator propose me so many models since years, but I answer them I refuse chinese brands, I don t want Samsung, I keep my old Sony still working. Same like in FKK, I m a high quality guy, when USA can t compete with France for quality, when I would for sure choose a Renault Megane RS, a race car with perfect balance to go fast and efficient.But I don't think an Audi S5 can do 300 km I have been on the Autobahn many times, near Dusseldorf and see cars blow by in that left lane doing at least 300 km and I seriously doubt any are Audi S8's.
US mean USA. Putin and Netanyahou are criminals, when Palestinians deserve a real country, same like Israel was given to Jews. Ukraine also deserve to keep their land of course. Putin also tries to fuck now elections in Romania and Georgia when these citizens don t want him. Trump behaving like a bad clown gives so bad image for USA. This is my meaning as a citizen of the world. From Trump behavior with women, he can only be ***** size, when I m really not.Well, you're a good sport. Please don't make fund of people with Tiny Penises. Our egos are fragile.
LOL it's called sarcasm. And chicken little, FYI by US law Trump can't rule like a dictator any more than emperor Obama. I mean how much of their stuff didn't pass over their 3 terms. And make no mistake about it, Obama tried to rule like an emperor, hell everybody knows he still calls the shots for the whole party up to 2024. So much so NBC called him a bigger loser in the election than Harris.
Fun fact Putin only does land grabs when democrats are in office. If people like you can't understand why tons of voters that voted for biden switched over to Trump, then you're going to keep losing with that dictator rhetoric. Treating people that consider voting for Trump like they were and at zis instead of trying to focus on why they were considering abandoning the current administration and being empathetic with their concerns probably cost your party 5 million votes. Your party managed to alienate legal Mexicans, black men, and Muslims, 3 groups whose 5-10% swing from biden to Trump decided the election. I mean how the hell does a black candidate actually do worse with blacks than a guy that voted against black kids being on integrated school busses in the 1980's and who got called out for it by said candidate that he turned around and made his VP. LOL you literally can't make any of this stuff up. Just stop with the strongman talk, the reason why Harris lost, she was a worse candidate than Trump. She had no vision, Biden had a approval rating lower than Trump's pre-covid and post- covid. She couldn't answer a legitimate, unrehearsed question, even from her friends on The View.
Tons of Democrat politicians, donors, and yes, voters have said as much. It's time to grow up and lose the strongman / dictator excuses and actually understand why she lost. People that voted for Biden; black men, Muslims and Latinos, changed their minds and put Trump over the top. He actually did better with college graduates of all races and worse with white older Americans. But keep up the dictator excuses without actually caring about the real reasons they lost and watch more GenZ voters turn red while the old GOP voters age out. I mean 40% of women under 30. Even Reagan wasn't getting that. And naturally, more people become conservative as they age and gain more life experiences. Millennials probably won't be any different as the counterculture population also became more conservative with age. GenZ is already getting there. This has to be alarming for the Democrat party, and it goes way beyond Trump, who is probably the one candidate in the republican party they should be able to beat in a general election. Independent voters (those that don't vote in primaries) will probably find people like JD Vance, Tim Scott, and Marco rubio even more easy to vote for.Russo-Georgian War
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War
The August 2008 Russo-Georgian War, also known as the Russian invasion of Georgia, was a war waged against Georgia by the Russian Federation and the Russian-backed separatist regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The fighting took place in the strategically important South Caucasus region. It is regarded as the first European war of the 21st century.See how typically pro Repub Mainstream Media has kept you safe for their purposes in your zero or low-information bubble?
I'll bet none of your MAGA Trump friends who raced to the polls to vote last month had the slightest clue that the initial Putin "land grab", in fact what is regarded as the First European War of the 21st Century, occurred right under a Repub president's nose. One of those Repub establishment, Reagan-era presidents at that.
I would also bet the farm that none of your fellow MAGA Trump voters has a clue to this day that every Great Depression, Great Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years occurred under a Repub president including the one in office from 2017 to 2021 and none of the Historic Economic Recoveries, Economic Expansions and Jobs Creation while all of the Great Recoveries, Economic Expansion and Historic Jobs Creation occurred under Dem presidents including the one in office from 2021 to 2025 and none of the Great Depressions, Great Recessions and Massive Jobs Destruction.
Which ought to matter quite a bit more to most of them than Putin's "land grabs" that started under Repub President GW Bush.
I would welcome much more Zelensky who fight for his country freedom than so bad image and behavior orange fat Trump who should have stayed in Florida, waiting for January and maybe Capitol to be attacked again, when I m a 100% pure french, no other blood, since Charles Martel.You clearly have more respect for and goodwill toward The United States of America and everything good it has ever stood for than any MAGA / Trump voters ever had.
If less than about 115,000 voters spread across just three decisive states with your well-informed understanding of what was at stake had decided to punch their ballot for Harris instead of Trump last month, America and its allies would be looking at a much brighter future right now.
Well, you're a good sport. Please don't make fund of people with Tiny Penises. Our egos are fragile.Size or sexual power with women often explain men s behavior with women who are our mothers or sisters or grannies. Trump seems so frustrated about women, when I love them, full confident from what I m able with them. Is Trump with is shameful behavior, but religious? To come to France to go to church. Dark point in our cathedral.
You cannot trust anything a dumbocrat says because the mainstream media is lying to them 24/7. Look at how Trump won by a landslide. And they were saying how close the election was. Dummies all.
MarquisdeSade1
12-08-24, 04:52
Correction. They used to "deserve" their country. They blew their chance in 1948. They said no, we want it all. They said we'll throw Israel into the sea. They started a war and lost it. Then another war and lost it. And another one (and lost it too). Then they turned to terrorism. When you're waging one war after another and blow people up, when you rape, torture and murder innocent civilians, when you mutilate corpses so that even their gender can't be determined, when you cut out fetuses out of the bellies of pregnant women, when you burn children and their parents alive, you lose all the fucking rights you might've had once in history. Every one of them.
Tough fucking luck.For once you're correct, I love My Dearest Vladimir!!
MarquisdeSade1
12-08-24, 06:53
You cannot trust anything a dumbocrat says because the mainstream media is lying to them 24/7. Look at how Trump won by a landslide. And they were saying how close the election was. Dummies all.https://nypost.com/2024/11/01/us-news/election-guru-nate-silver-accuses-pollsters-of-putting-finger-on-the-scale-lying-to-keep-presidential-race-close/
I posted this when he said it.
And Bangkok Bob screamed BULLSHIT.
Especially the US military, if not for us you would be speaking Deutsch LMFAO.Problem is not USA nor even Republicans, but too many people are no brained to elect again Trump who fuck your constitution and Capitol. Except Dodge charger V8 , I would prefer french cars with higher building quality standards, even Stellantis have problems on some engines, but Mercedes Benz used Renault engines.
You cannot trust anything a dumbocrat says because the mainstream media is lying to them 24/7. Look at how Trump won by a landslide. And they were saying how close the election was. Dummies all.Ever since Trump sent that dude out there to grandly announce that Trump's 2017 Inaugural crowd was "the largest ever", Democrats have been stubbornly resistant to falling for any of the 30,000+ other blatantly obvious lies he shovels down his MAGA suckers' throats as they swallow every putrid drop with gusto.
You cannot trust anything a dumbocrat says because the mainstream media is lying to them 24/7. Look at how Trump won by a landslide. And they were saying how close the election was. Dummies all.Remind me: what was your LAS numbers again?
You clearly have more respect for and goodwill toward The United States of America and everything good it has ever stood for than any MAGA / Trump voters ever had.
If less than about 115,000 voters spread across just three decisive states with your well-informed understanding of what was at stake had decided to punch their ballot for Harris instead of Trump last month, America and its allies would be looking at a much brighter future right now.Unfortunately, Harris lost all swinging states Biden had succeeded, quite weird. For our world, rather than what ask old senile fat Trump not knowing more than his Floridian golf, Russians should follow Syria example and get rid of Putin. This is time, when Russia lost power, they couldn't even help Al Assad and since nearly 3 years, were not able, fortunately, to defeat very weak Ukraine but who have balls to be able to defend versus big Russia. Get rid of Putin and stay home Trump when You are only good example for obesity in US.
But I don't think an Audi S5 can do 300 km I have been on the Autobahn many times, near Dusseldorf and see cars blow by in that left lane doing at least 300 km and I seriously doubt any are Audi S8's.Audi S5 V8 4. 2 32 valves is 354 power and 278 km / h with speed limit off, what I asked when I bought. When I m used to clean German autobahns almost weekly from Paris, as I wrote, I improved front drive and engine with now about 440 power, for aiming 300 km / h. I doubt You saw cars faster than 300 , when most Germans are lower than 150 km / h. On 2 lines, impossible to be more than 150 km / h faster than others, too dangerous. I tested with a truck which should be less than 100 , overtaking at 255 km / h, for that I stuck to left barreer and what a shock and noice on right window when I passed the big truck. For 300 which is much more difficult than 250 or even 275 , need at least 3 lines and one free between such speed and others, when so big difference, but I work hard to improve Audi, to pass 300 on GPS speed. This is European quality I m used to. I would also feel more safe in Airbus than in a US Boeing. Also french hands made Bugatti.
Correction. They used to "deserve" their country. They blew their chance in 1948. They said no, we want it all. They said we'll throw Israel into the sea. They started a war and lost it. Then another war and lost it. And another one (and lost it too). Then they turned to terrorism. When you're waging one war after another and blow people up, when you rape, torture and murder innocent civilians, when you mutilate corpses so that even their gender can't be determined, when you cut out fetuses out of the bellies of pregnant women, when you burn children and their parents alive, you lose all the fucking rights you might've had once in history. Every one of them.
Tough fucking luck.Putin and Netanyahou are criminals and when war will stop around Israel, now new problem with new Syria, he will have big problems in Israel. Blind Russians have to wake up and get rid of Putin and then they will have a much better life, rather than 800000 dead.
Correction. They used to "deserve" their country. They blew their chance in 1948. They said no, we want it all. They said we'll throw Israel into the sea. They started a war and lost it. Then another war and lost it. And another one (and lost it too). Then they turned to terrorism. When you're waging one war after another and blow people up, when you rape, torture and murder innocent civilians, when you mutilate corpses so that even their gender can't be determined, when you cut out fetuses out of the bellies of pregnant women, when you burn children and their parents alive, you lose all the fucking rights you might've had once in history. Every one of them.
Tough fucking luck.When most Palestinians are so poor, easy for Hamas to make them becoming martyrs for Islam, but give them a real country for a good life, same like Israel, and Hamas will lose power to find terrorists. Most Palestinians are not terrorists, but desperate to try to survive.
In USA, even I would vote for democrats for health insurance for everybody, at least all those working and their family wife and children, but I don t care much if Democrats or Republicans when not my country, but always bullshiting senile fat Trump is not good for a peaceful world. Same like Putin and Netanyahou. I m afraid Ukraine should not be helped much by Trump, when Putin already stole Crimea and try now for Georgia Caucase and even Romania. Dombas is a bit complex, when mix of Russians and Ukrainians, but no reason to be stolen by Putin. Maybe fair elections? Not fucked by Putin, to decide, under United Nations control, when Putin make noise like a dog with postman, but even numerous, but his army is weak. Obvious after almost 3 years versus very weak, but very courageous Ukraine.
All Fake polls from the Fake News
https://nypost.com/2024/11/01/us-news/election-guru-nate-silver-accuses-pollsters-of-putting-finger-on-the-scale-lying-to-keep-presidential-race-close/
I posted this when he said it.
And Bangkok Bob screamed BULLSHIT.The vote counting done by Cook Political Reports, CNN, AP, NBC, etc has nothing to do with polls.
As of this writing, the count results for the national popular vote and, most importantly, for the only three Battleground / Swing States that determined whether Trump or Harris would be President-elect today are as follows:
Had less than 115,000 votes for Trump spread across those three States, PA, MI and WI, gone to Harris instead, Harris would be President-elect today instead of Trump.
Trump did not with the majority of the popular vote.
Trump won hundreds of thousands of votes less vs Harris than Clinton won MORE than Trump in 2016. And she LOST! LOL.
Trump won roughly a 1. 5 percentage point more of the popular vote than Harris and about that same amount or less across those three decisive Battleground / Swing States, where much if not most of their campaigning and ad spending took place.
However, on the polls, the consensus of polls was as accurate if not more so as they have ever been. Days before the election, they showed that the race was within a normal +/-MoE for either Trump or Harris to win and that is exactly what the final election result was.
BTW, from your link;.
His scorn also extended to all these GOP-leaning firms showing the former president narrowly ahead each time to project that theyre not going out too far on a limb.Lolol. I laughed at your "Fake polls" rant then for the same reason I laugh at it now. Nate Silver was slamming Fake Trump-leaning polls trying to keep it closer than it was at the time, not supposedly Harris-leaning polls.
And in the end, unless those Trump-leaning polls had inside information on what less than. 115,000 angry Netanyahu-hating Muslims in PA, MI and WI would decide to do on November 5th as they shouted "Allahu Akbar" and sailed into those states' polling places, then Nate Silver was right; those Fake Trump-leaning polls were putting their fingers on the scale for their boy.
MarquisdeSade1
12-08-24, 19:07
Unfortunately, Harris lost all swinging states Biden had succeeded, quite weird. For our world, rather than what ask old senile fat Trump not knowing more than his Floridian golf, Russians should follow Syria example and get rid of Putin. This is time, when Russia lost power, they couldn't even help Al Assad and since nearly 3 years, were not able, fortunately, to defeat very weak Ukraine but who have balls to be able to defend versus big Russia. Get rid of Putin and stay home Trump when You are only good example for obesity in US.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/06/briefing/syria-rebels-tiktok-us-ban-appeals-court.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/08/world/middleeast/irans-syria-axis-of-resistance.html
MarquisdeSade1
12-08-24, 19:18
Audi S5 V8 4. 2 32 valves is 354 power and 278 km / h with speed limit off, what I asked when I bought. When I m used to clean German autobahns almost weekly from Paris, as I wrote, I improved front drive and engine with now about 440 power, for aiming 300 km / h. I doubt You saw cars faster than 300 , when most Germans are lower than 150 km / h. On 2 lines, impossible to be more than 150 km / h faster than others, too dangerous. I tested with a truck which should be less than 100 , overtaking at 255 km / h, for that I stuck to left barreer and what a shock and noice on right window when I passed the big truck. For 300 which is much more difficult than 250 or even 275 , need at least 3 lines and one free between such speed and others, when so big difference, but I work hard to improve Audi, to pass 300 on GPS speed. This is European quality I m used to. I would also feel more safe in Airbus than in a US Boeing. Also french hands made Bugatti.Driving in the center lane on the Autobahns around 160 km you can guess the speed of a larger passing car it makes your car move like a strong wind.
I have seen that happen many times only to surmise they must be going around 300 km or more? I couldn't see what kind of car it was just a blur but usually black).
I have driven up to 240 km on US highways many times so I do have a decent reference point not to mention I know how fast I was going when these maniacs would literally fly by and scare the shit out of me!!
They drive like this in Russia also, without the Autobahns, stay off the roads in Russia at night espec late on Friday and Saturday nights.
You wrote Mercedes uses some Renault engines LOL that is why the Mercedes brand is falling lololol.
MarquisdeSade1
12-08-24, 19:25
Unfortunately, Harris lost all swinging states Biden had succeeded, quite weird. For our world, rather than what ask old senile fat Trump not knowing more than his Floridian golf, Russians should follow Syria example and get rid of Putin. This is time, when Russia lost power, they couldn't even help Al Assad and since nearly 3 years, were not able, fortunately, to defeat very weak Ukraine but who have balls to be able to defend versus big Russia. Get rid of Putin and stay home Trump when You are only good example for obesity in US.Oprah sends a big thanks to you Cucks that sent her money LOLOLOL.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/james-carville-kamala-harris-donald-trump/2024/11/11/id/1187596/
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2024-11-15/trump-harris-and-musk-how-money-did-and-didnt-affect-the-election
Hamas decimated. Hezbollah decimated. Assad overthrown. Iran on the back foot. Putin bogged down in Ukraine. At least there's good news emanating from other parts of the world!
Putin and Netanyahou are criminals and when war will stop around Israel, now new problem with new Syria, he will have big problems in Israel. Blind Russians have to wake up and get rid of Putin and then they will have a much better life, rather than 800000 dead.Netanyahu might be a criminal, but, like you said, Israel will deal with him when the time comes. Just like you don't compare a pickpoket with a serial killer, you don't compare Netanyahu with Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot or Putin. That's just dumb, anti-Semitic or both.
In this case of Gaetz, the reason were the witnesses against him were unreliable, scummy people engaged in criminal activity.
The lawyer, Joel Leppard, who represented the two main young women, in the Matt Gaetz, House Ethics committee investigation, was very clear that, his clients testimonies had been very credible and had been verified by several other "party goers". Gaetz, knew this and made his withdrawal.
His withdrawal, definitely, was a sign of apparent guilt. I would have loved, to have seen, Matt Gaetz fight these alleged charges and make his case. But the reality is, he knew full well his history of such behavior was never going to pass muster, from a Senate hearing, who no doubt would be taking into account the findings from the House Ethics Committee report on his criminal deviant behavior and the very credible and damning testimonies from the those young women victims and witnesses.
House Repubs, block release of Gaetz Ethics Report, but the House Ethics committee (currently deadlocked), could still release the report, in a future Ethics Committee reincarnation, barring time restrictions (or statues of limitations) on some of the allegations. Which could suggest that elements of the report may contain criminal or civil prosecution?
Gaetz and Hegseth were investigated and not charged.
Not charged, but still guilty as fuck! But if he/they are so innocent, why not defend your case, and "have your day in court" or "face the music", as it were and prove your innocence, like Hunter Biden? No he ran, like a bitoch to Trump for a pardon (...kkkk)
Pity though, as I was so looking forward to pedo Gaetz, trying to talk himself, free and clear of such allegations, in highly televised Senate Confirmation Hearing.
However, if Hegseth does make it to a Senate Confirmation Hearing, is should be very interesting, how Hegseth, paid huge sums of money to make his sexual criminal conduct disappear, w/r to an NDA and the woman in the sexual rape case against him.
Let's not forget Hegseth's habitual intoxication and drunken stupors, drunken inappropriate groping of women workmates and drunken cries of "Kill all Muslims". Because naturally, you Elvis 2008 and Tiny 12, love defending and sympathizing with such deviant behavior, but Hunter Biden's dick pics and lying on a gun application (which should have a "slap on the wrist" offense), is somehow worse? (...kkkk)
MarquisdeSade1
12-09-24, 00:33
Muslim voters once abandoned the GOP. Now they may leave the Democrats.
Anger about Gaza helped Donald Trump win the most Arab American city in the country, while support for Kamala Harris was cut in half.
Nov. 10, 2024
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/muslim-voters-abandoned-gop-now-may-leave-democrats-rcna179304
Why do you doubt your lord and savior about this and now suddenly side with James 'Carnival'?
BTW, the numbers can not be refuted by anyone; less than a 115,000 vote swing from Harris to Trump or Trump to Harris spread over just three significantly Muslim-demo battleground / swing states would have and did decide the outcome of the presidential election, the exact states where Trump's new favorite political activist organization, Muslims for Trump, mobilized their anti-Biden-Harris ground game in order to "give him the presidency. ".
Has it not yet occurred to you that there is NO FUTURE JOB AND INCOME OPPORTUNITY for 'Carnival', Penn, Morris, et al to simply admit Harris or any other Dem candidate should have worked harder to explain how stupid and sure to be regretted the reasoning was behind any Muslims ever voting for Trump rather than blaming it on a vast array of complex Total Party issues that they and only they are brilliant enough to overhaul from top to bottom?.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/opinion/democrats-identity-politics.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/opinion/donald-trump-defeat-democrats.html
If anyone can find a passage in this blithering, blathering, incoherent nonsense from Trump in this first post-Squeaker Handful of a Muslim Jihad Against America Election interview that suggests in any way that Trump is informed, intelligent, prepared and fit to serve as anything except perhaps as Liar-in-Chief for a Con Man Clinic, you deserve a cookie:
Read the full transcript: President-elect Donald Trump interviewed by "Meet the Press" moderator Kristen Welker.
Trump spoke with NBC News for more than an hour in an interview that covered a range of topics.
Dec. 9, 2024
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-interview-meet-press-kristen-welker-election-president-rcna182857
I am telling you his only "plan" is to bluster, blather and complain for the next four years, coast on the terrific, Envy of the World Biden-Harris Economy he will inherit and play lots and lots and lots of golf, exactly as he did the first time around with the terrific Obama-Biden economy he inherited. And he will do that until he recognizes and seizes upon the opportunity to usher in and exacerbate another "Once in 100 Years Disaster" that only happen under Repub presidents and never under Dem presidents to exploit and blame on everyone else.
Whatever stray legislation or Executive Order he proposes and sticks will most certainly turn out to be a colossal addition to the deficit producing virtually no perceivable benefit to anyone but his already wealthy cronies.
He is the Unsolvable Mythical Grievances President for the Unsolvable Mythical Grievances MAGA Repub Party, a true modern-day blight and menace to economic success, national security and democratic freedom.
To the relative handful of angry Netanyahu-hating but already regretful Muslims in PA, MI and WI who "gave Trump the presidency" and the similarly-motivated MAGA Repubs around the country who squeaked out a razor-thin Plurality of the vote for him this time around, The Kremlin thanks you.
Respectfully maybe we should stop replying to Spidy. Anybody with half a brain knows the accusations he's leveling at you and me about p**** are ridiculous. However
it may just get us in trouble with Admin, and that kind of behavior is against the ISG code of honor.. So perhaps better to discuss other topics. "Don't feed the troll."
What as Matt Gaetz sympathizers? (...kkkk!)
"TROLLING", is this your way of showing defeat and ignominiously bowing out the debate? (...kkkk!)
Tiny 12, just because another ISGer, provides substantiated counterpoints, different POVs and arguments to your bothsider, neithersider rhetoric and your winger propaganda, doesn't mean that ISGer is a "TROLL".
If you're so thin skinned, or your delicate sensibilities have been hurt, in what you see as "TROLLING", because other ISGers has challenged your rhetoric, with valid credible counterpoints to your arguments, perhaps we can all petition Admin, on your soft sensitive emotional behalf, to have them rename the forum to, "Stupid Trolling in American Politics"? If you still think, we're all just "trolling" one another here?
BTW, you may want also consider, your own fraudulent, creepy and cringe-worthy behavior, as "TROLLING", when you disrespect and change another ISGers post, by inserting your own twisted hyperbole, into a quote they never wrote. Now that's "TROLLING"!
So Yeah...Tiny 12, if you or Elvis 2008, choose not to respond to my post, I promise you, I won't lose any sleep over it! (...kkkk!)
But you're NOT fooling anyone, by calling another ISGer, who challenges your debating rhetoric, with valid and credible counterpoints, as "TROLLING".
While you and Elvis 2008, have made your feelings clear about the candidacy of Matt Gaetz (or Pete Hegseth) for office with your sympathizing posts, about their alleged criminal behavior and sexual misconduct, being OKAY for office, I will continue to argue with counterpoints to their nomination and disqualification. Especially when you guys make such ludicrous comparisons with that of Hunter Biden, when in fact their criminal sexual behavior is more aligned and akin to the likes of pedo Jeffery Epstein.
You know all to well, that's just "weak sauce" from any so called debater. But, by all means, you Tiny 12, DO NOT NEED TO RESPOND to my debate arguments, as I have chosen many times, not to respond to your (or Elvis 2008's) rhetoric, WITHOUT fanfare and hyperbole.
And BTW, while I might call your post or Elvis 2008's posts something else, like Gish Gallop, a term use by a wonderful journalist, to aptly describe "Trump speak", I wouldn't necessarily call what you guys post in this America Politics forum, as "TROLLING". Well at least not yet!
So see ya, in the NEXT debate...OR NOT!
PS:
BTW, I do NOT consider it as "TROLLING", when YOU always feel the need in a debate to, "get in the last word", or argue every point feverishly, and exhibit a strange compulsion to desperately be the last one posting at nights, to the this forum or the Stupid Shit in Kyiv forum, as if to put your "stamp" on the debate, as "winning", because you got in, "the last word of the day"...right!
So while others may see such behavior, as "TROLLING" or creepy, I definitely DO NOT!. I know, it's just you, having the joy and love for the sport of debate, when providing your rhetoric, POVs and counterpoints, in a seemingly healthy, debate or exchange of opposing ideas...right!
MarquisdeSade1
12-09-24, 04:20
Netanyahu might be a criminal, but, like you said, Israel will deal with him when the time comes. Just like you don't compare a pickpoket with a serial killer, you don't compare Netanyahu with Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot or Putin. That's just dumb, anti-Semitic or both.As you very well know their sovereignty was threatened, so lay off the LAME ASS bullshit, or we shall start calling you Xpartan Bob.
https://www.politico.eu/article/pope-francis-nato-cause-ukraine-invasion-russia/
What as Matt Gaetz sympathizers? (...kkkk!)
"TROLLING", is this your way of showing defeat and ignominiously bowing out the debate? (...kkkk!)
Tiny 12, just because another ISGer, provides substantiated counterpoints, different POVs and arguments to your bothsider, neithersider rhetoric and your winger propaganda, doesn't mean that ISGer is a "TROLL".
If you're so thin skinned, or your delicate sensibilities have been hurt, in what you see as "TROLLING", because other ISGers has challenged your rhetoric, with valid credible counterpoints to your arguments, perhaps we can all petition Admin, on your soft sensitive emotional behalf, to have them rename the forum to, "Stupid Trolling in American Politics"? If you still think, we're all just "trolling" one another here?
BTW, you may want also consider, your own fraudulent, creepy and cringe-worthy behavior, as "TROLLING", when you disrespect and change another ISGers post, by inserting your own twisted hyperbole, into a quote they never wrote. Now that's "TROLLING"!
So Yeah...Tiny 12, if you or Elvis 2008, choose not to respond to my post, I promise you, I won't lose any sleep over it! (...kkkk!)
But you're NOT fooling anyone, by calling another ISGer, who challenges your debating rhetoric, with valid and credible counterpoints, as "TROLLING".
While you and Elvis 2008, have made your feelings clear about the candidacy of Matt Gaetz (or Pete Hegseth) for office with your sympathizing posts, about their alleged criminal behavior and sexual misconduct, being OKAY for office, I will continue to argue with counterpoints to their nomination and disqualification. Especially when you guys make such ludicrous comparisons with that of Hunter Biden, when in fact their criminal sexual behavior is more aligned and akin to the likes of pedo Jeffery Epstein.
You know all to well, that's just "weak sauce" from any so called debater. But, by all means, you Tiny 12, DO NOT NEED TO RESPOND to my debate arguments, as I have chosen many times, not to respond to your (or Elvis 2008's) rhetoric, WITHOUT fanfare and hyperbole.
And BTW, while I might call your post or Elvis 2008's posts something else, like Gish Gallop, a term use by a wonderful journalist, to aptly describe "Trump speak", I wouldn't necessarily call what you guys post in this America Politics forum, as "TROLLING". Well at least not yet!
So see ya, in the NEXT debate...OR NOT!
PS:
BTW, I do NOT consider it as "TROLLING", when YOU always feel the need in a debate to, "get in the last word", or argue every point feverishly, and exhibit a strange compulsion to desperately be the last one posting at nights, to the this forum or the Stupid Shit in Kyiv forum, as if to put your "stamp" on the debate, as "winning", because you got in, "the last word of the day"...right!
So while others may see such behavior, as "TROLLING" or creepy, I definitely DO NOT!. I know, it's just you, having the joy and love for the sport of debate, when providing your rhetoric, POVs and counterpoints, in a seemingly healthy, debate or exchange of opposing ideas...right!Spidy, I am simply referring to references to p********* and the untrue accusation that Elvis and I defend and sympathize with p********s. As to a code of honor, it means that ISG'ers don't engage in that type of behavior. That is, we're not p********s.
FFlintstone69
12-09-24, 06:04
Spidy, I am simply referring to references to p********* and the untrue accusation that Elvis and I defend and sympathize with p********s. As to a code of honor, it means that ISG'ers don't engage in that type of behavior. That is, we're not p********s.A classic case of projecting, reminds me of those politicians or clerics we see from time to time on the television constantly screaming about the evils of homosexuality, until of course they.
Are arrested for lewd behavior in public for visiting glory holes in books stores or man on man fellatio in public washrooms etcetera etcetera.
Hamas decimated. Hezbollah decimated. Assad overthrown. Iran on the back foot. Putin bogged down in Ukraine. At least there's good news emanating from other parts of the world!As long Palestinians will live in misery, Hamas will exist and find martyrs. Nobody knows what will become Syria and Israel worry on Golan. Unfortunately, Russians are inside Ukraine when not their country. We are far from peace and I doubt Trump will help, because he knows nothing out of his golf.
Netanyahu might be a criminal, but, like you said, Israel will deal with him when the time comes. Just like you don't compare a pickpoket with a serial killer, you don't compare Netanyahu with Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot or Putin. That's just dumb, anti-Semitic or both.Netanyahou makes his war for his interest, but he will kill many Jews all over the world, when Muslims support Palestinians, but same like Putin with Russians, he only works his craziness and don t care if many dead from his war. Give a country to Palestinians, when Israel was given to Jews, then Hamas should lose power. I know USA have big interests with Israel and Jews, must Muslims are more numerous.
Spidy, I am simply referring to references to p********* and the untrue accusation that Elvis and I defend and sympathize with p********s. As to a code of honor, it means that ISG'ers don't engage in that type of behavior. That is, we're not p********s.
(...kkkk!) Clearly you need to brush up on your definition of the word sympathizer and how I'm applying it, despite any pretext, you're desperately trying to cling to!
Tell me Tiny 12, if I say "You're a Putin/Russian sympathizer...", does that mean you're a murderous Russian thug and war criminal?
Let NOT get it twisted, alright!
The association of being a "Matt Gaetz sympathizer", is more about, how could you guys support and in some cases celebrate, the morally bad behavior and judgment, shown by Gaetz (and also from Trump, an absence and lack of a vetting process), given his history of sexual misconduct, to be even remotely, be considered for the position of AG? I think it was all just a bad joke!
Gaetz's withdrawal, was a clear signal that the substantiate damning evidence, gathered by the House Ethics Committee (despite the corrupt Repub Florida AG turning a blind eye, like they did with Jeffery Epstein), was going to sink his nomination anyways.
Point is, if he's so innocent of these allegations and worthy of office, like you guys think he is, then I would have loved to see him "face the music" and clear things up for us all. But instead, he ran to Trump for a pardon, like a bitoch!
It would seem, that in the end as it turns out, it was nothing more than a barfed up bad sadistic joke, that Trump ran, probably while taking a shit, to watch Gaetz squirm and grovel for a while. I'm thinking, it'll be the same bad joke for Hegseth.
Driving in the center lane on the Autobahns around 160 km you can guess the speed of a larger passing car it makes your car move like a strong wind.
I have seen that happen many times only to surmise they must be going around 300 km or more? I couldn't see what kind of car it was just a blur but usually black).
I have driven up to 240 km on US highways many times so I do have a decent reference point not to mention I know how fast I was going when these maniacs would literally fly by and scare the shit out of me!!
They drive like this in Russia also, without the Autobahns, stay off the roads in Russia at night espec late on Friday and Saturday nights.
You wrote Mercedes uses some Renault engines LOL that is why the Mercedes brand is falling lololol.If you drove 160 km / h on center line, then you were never passed at 300 km / h, less than 2 meters on your left, or you would have finished on right line and the other car in left barreer, from the air shock. German agreement is to limit German cars except Porsche and few models, to 250 km / h, but easy to put off speed limit, but I never see cars faster than 270 and there is a huge difference to reach 300 , when not many cars can reach and even less drivers. Biggest problem is not the speed, when you can become used to, but 150 km / h for difference is more difficult in traffic.
A classic case of projecting, reminds me of those politicians or clerics we see from time to time on the television constantly screaming about the evils of homosexuality, until of course they.
Are arrested for lewd behavior in public for visiting glory holes in books stores or man on man fellatio in public washrooms etcetera etcetera.More likely it's ignorance. He may not understand what the word really means.
As long Palestinians will live in misery, Hamas will exist and find martyrs.You might not be able to kill an ideology, but you can kill those who hold said ideology. So if one of them wants to be martyred? Wish granted!
As you very well know their sovereignty was threatened, so lay off the LAME ASS bullshit, or we shall start calling you Xpartan Bob.
https://www.politico.eu/article/pope-francis-nato-cause-ukraine-invasion-russia/Oh, "Pope Francis said," huh. LOL, didn't see that coming.
Now you went ahead and found another dude as delusional as you are.
Good job!
MarquisdeSade1
12-10-24, 02:08
If anyone can find a passage in this blithering, blathering, incoherent nonsense from Trump in this first post-Squeaker Handful of a Muslim Jihad Against America Election interview that suggests in any way that Trump is informed, intelligent, prepared and fit to serve as anything except perhaps as Liar-in-Chief for a Con Man Clinic, you deserve a cookie:
Read the full transcript: President-elect Donald Trump interviewed by "Meet the Press" moderator Kristen Welker.
Trump spoke with NBC News for more than an hour in an interview that covered a range of topics.
Dec. 9, 2024
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-interview-meet-press-kristen-welker-election-president-rcna182857
I am telling you his only "plan" is to bluster, blather and complain for the next four years, coast on the terrific, Envy of the World Biden-Harris Economy he will inherit and play lots and lots and lots of golf, exactly as he did the first time around with the terrific Obama-Biden economy he inherited. And he will do that until he recognizes and seizes upon the opportunity to usher in and exacerbate another "Once in 100 Years Disaster" that only happen under Repub presidents and never under Dem presidents to exploit and blame on everyone else.
Whatever stray legislation or Executive Order he proposes and sticks will most certainly turn out to be a colossal addition to the deficit producing virtually no perceivable benefit to anyone but his already wealthy cronies.
He is the Unsolvable Mythical Grievances President for the Unsolvable Mythical Grievances MAGA Repub Party, a true modern-day blight and menace to economic success, national security and democratic freedom.
To the relative handful of angry Netanyahu-hating but already regretful Muslims in PA, MI and WI who "gave Trump the presidency" and the similarly-motivated MAGA Repubs around the country who squeaked out a razor-thin Plurality of the vote for him this time around, The Kremlin thanks you.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/us/elections/chinese-americans-conservative-trump.html
The Freedom-Fighter Syrian rebels who just ousted their Authoritarian Dictator, Assad, saw the writing on the wall; With Trump and his Cabinet picks fulfilling MAGA and, specifically, the handful of angry Muslims' wishes to "win the presidency", it was an absolute certainty that Assad's primary sponsors, Russia, Iran and Hezbollah, were going to go from their current position of weakness to a full recovery and resurgence of unprecedented power soon after 12 Noon on January 20,2025.
Therefore, they knew time was of the essence. They had to make their move to battle for and win the Freedom for their country this month that MAGAs and angry Muslims were so enthusiastic to give up in America last month:
Toppling of Assad transforms Middle East after year of chaos.
Dec. 10, 2024
https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/syria-assad-russia-iran-hezbollah-israel
Both President Biden and President-elect Trump and many spies, diplomats and defense officials personally involved in the tumultuous events of the last year agree that Assad was doomed by the weakening of his allies, Russia and Iran.
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Hezbollah: Iran's most armed and trained proxy lost its charismatic and powerful leader, Hassan Nasrallah, in an Israeli airstrike. Hezbollah's military infrastructure has been significantly degraded, and the Lebanese group agreed to a ceasefire with Israel last month under extremely unfavorable terms.
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Russia, whose 2015 intervention saved Assad and helped inflict mass suffering on the Syrian people, has been bogged down by the war in Ukraine for nearly three years.
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The disintegration of Assad's military forces and his own decision to flee the country has delivered a devastating strategic blow to his allies.
Iran and Hezbollah, which both intervened to prop up the Assad regime after the 2011 Syrian revolution, quickly evacuated hundreds of their people as rebels were sweeping across Syria at lightning speed last week.
Both have now lost their main logistical hub for producing, transferring, and storing weapons, training their militias, and threatening Israel with another front.
Without Assad, Russia could lose naval access to the Mediterranean and ultimately its grip over the only country in the Middle East where it has dominance over the U.S.
What to watch: What comes next is deeply uncertain, and the direction of any future rebel-led government will be closely watched by the U.S., Russia, Israel, Iran and the many other countries impacted by 14 years of war.
The dominance of Islamist groups in particular including former affiliates of al-Qaeda has left the international community on edge, not to mention some minority communities who felt safer under Assad.
But for now, millions of Syrians are simply celebrating the chance to write their own future.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/us/elections/chinese-americans-conservative-trump.htmlA relative handful of Asians in the San Gabriel Valley did not "give" anyone California's 54 Electoral College Votes for the win, least of all Trump, as that relative handful of angry, Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims in PA, MI and WI "gave" the presidency to Trump.
Would you feel better if it hadn't been solely due to 115,000 angry, Netanyahu-hating Muslims voting for Trump rather than Harris in just those three decisive Battleground / Swing States and if instead it had been a 50-50 combination of them and gullible suckers who believed Bill Maher's constant pro Trump / Repub lies about Dems "thinking a man can get pregnant" every week for years and years?
LOL. I am positive your beloved Bill Maher's years long weekly televized Trump / Repub Campaign Rally swung at least 57,500 votes from Harris to Trump among his PA, MI and WI audience. That would have left only those angry, Netanyahu-hating Muslims to pick up the other 57,500 votes Trump needed to declare a "landslide" victory and "mandate" to shit all over the USA Constitution, economy and national security for another 4 years.
And you can not honestly believe Californians will suddenly go so stupid and unpatriotic as to give Trump's VP, Shady Pants, their 54 EC Votes in 2028.
Trump has already done a lot for crypto and he has not even be sworn in yet.
Trump has already done a lot for crypto and he has not even be sworn in yet.If I had been rooting for the awakening of BITCOIN I might have been lovin' on some Joe Biden since his election in November 2020.
And if I had been rooting for DOGECOIN, I REALLY would have been lovin' on some sweet Joe since then. "Elonia" Musk must have noticed that, too.
MarquisdeSade1
12-11-24, 01:12
Oh, "Pope Francis said," huh. LOL, didn't see that coming.
Now you went ahead and found another dude as delusional as you are.
Good job!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversy_in_Russia_regarding_the_legitimacy_of_eastward_NATO_expansion
https://www.rt.com/news/609134-musk-trmp-junior-zelensky-meme/
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/29/1076193616/ukraine-russia-nato-explainer
Its all moot now, My Dearest Vladimir is crushing the vile vermin, and is protecting some of the greatest people in the world.
Love Live Russia!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
MarquisdeSade1
12-11-24, 02:37
Netanyahou makes his war for his interest, but he will kill many Jews all over the world, when Muslims support Palestinians, but same like Putin with Russians, he only works his craziness and don t care if many dead from his war. Give a country to Palestinians, when Israel was given to Jews, then Hamas should lose power. I know USA have big interests with Israel and Jews, must Muslims are more numerous.What you need is a MFGA President may I suggest you vote for Marine LE Pen.
https://www.rt.com/news/608887-france-macron-centrism-crisis/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversy_in_Russia_regarding_the_legitimacy_of_eastward_NATO_expansion
https://www.rt.com/news/609134-musk-trmp-junior-zelensky-meme/
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/29/1076193616/ukraine-russia-nato-explainer
Its all moot now, My Dearest Vladimir is crushing the vile vermin, and is protecting some of the greatest people in the world.
Love Live Russia!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.Thanks for providing a link totally disproving your contention, as you typically do:
What is not in dispute: Gorbachev later agreed to withdraw from East Germany in exchange for financial concessions, in a treaty that did not place limits on the future expansion of NATO.Now, was your other link about "Elonia" Musk laughing at some fabricated photo or some such idiocy supposed to prove something else of importance?
Now, why would these AAA people make up stuff like this just to make our President-elect and the people who refused to vote for anyone else look like a bunch of blithering idiot liars? Shameful.
Record Number of Holiday Travelers Expected to Close Out 2024.
AAA projects more than 119 million Americans will travel over the year-end holidays.
Dec. 11, 2024
https://newsroom.aaa.com/2024/12/year-end-forecast/
This years domestic travel projection narrowly surpasses the previous record set in 2019 by 64,000 travelers. AAA expects an additional 3 million travelers this holiday season compared to last year.
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This holiday season, gas prices are lower than last year, when the national average was around $3.12 in the last two weeks of 2023.
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By Air: AAA expects air travel to set a new record this holiday season with 7.85 million passengers. That number surpasses the previous record of 7.5 million air travelers last year. AAA booking data shows flights are 4% more expensive this holiday season compared to last year. The average domestic ticket is $830. International flights are 13 % more expensive, averaging $1,630 a ticket.
By Other Modes: The number of Americans traveling by bus, train, and cruise this holiday season is up nearly 10% compared to last year. AAA expects 4.47 million people will travel by other modes. That number is the highest its been in 20 years.And how can anyone believe Americans are breaking travel records today when prices are higher this year and nobody can even buy, what is the word again, "groceries"?
It is also impossible for any patriotic American to believe that people are driving almost as much as they did pre Trump's Pandemic while the average price of a gallon of Regular Gasoline in the USA is a whole 11 cents more now than it was 5 1/2 years ago and it is well known that 107% of those record numbers of new jobs created under Joe Biden went to illegal aliens.
Seriously. None of this can be true in the face of what Trump and his MAGAs have been telling us over the past few years. I mean, unless the illegal aliens who got 107% of the new jobs created under Biden-Harris are the only ones doing all the traveling, flying and driving this holiday season while real Americans are sitting Home Alone without any, what is the word, "groceries" to eat and being laughed at by "Elonia" Musk.
MarquisdeSade1
12-11-24, 21:07
Thanks for providing a link totally disproving your contention, as you typically do:
Now, was your other link about "Elonia" Musk laughing at some fabricated photo or some such idiocy supposed to prove something else of importance?https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/11/opinion/democratic-party-wilderness-trump.html
Yuge thanks Scumbag Nancy Scumbag Joe and Scumbag Barry.
Post Script I won't even bother responding to you picking one line out of many saying many different things LMFAO!
Cherry Pick and Oversimplify Much?
As Sen. Tuberville now takes up the mantle and is now the lead Hegseth (and disgraced pedo/sex trafficker Gaetz) sexual misconduct sympathizer, tying to confirm Hegseth.
In what obviously looks like, a fool's errand and kind of like, "the proverbial fat lady trying to shoe horn her fat foot into a shoe size too small" (...kkkk!)
The problem(s) with Tubervilles absurd defense of Pete Hegseth
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maddow-blog-the-problems-with-tuberville-s-absurd-defense-of-pete-hegseth/ar-AA1vcxzk
Let face it, Hegseth, couldn't run a street corner lemonade stand and make a profit, better then a savvy 5th grader. Hegseth, is so incompetent and inept, on two (2) separate occasions, he took the very simple job of running a VA office, with budgets of around $15 million and mismanaged them and ran them into the ground, twice (2x). Any competent idiot would have learned from the first VA failure.
This kind of ineptitude and mismanagement, shouldn't be anywhere near the DOD, with 3+ million employees and a budget of more than $857 billion dollars, despite the cheerleading idiots like Tuberville.
MarquisdeSade1
12-11-24, 22:07
Thanks for providing a link totally disproving your contention, as you typically do:
Now, was your other link about "Elonia" Musk laughing at some fabricated photo or some such idiocy supposed to prove something else of importance?Hes laughing at Zelinsky the little boy tried to take on Mother Russia and get curbstomped (with most of the Wests help he's still get pulverized).
That's very very funny if you ask me! And any other "REAL" men.
MarquisdeSade1
12-11-24, 22:30
If I had been rooting for the awakening of BITCOIN I might have been lovin' on some Joe Biden since his election in November 2020.
And if I had been rooting for DOGECOIN, I REALLY would have been lovin' on some sweet Joe since then. "Elonia" Musk must have noticed that, too.Democrats Don't Have an Easy Way Out.
Dec. 11,2024.
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The weakened condition of the Democratic Party leaves it ill prepared to defend itself against a Republican Party determined to eviscerate liberalism and the left.
Evidence of the fraught state of the party can be found everywhere. Pew Research asked Democrats and Republicans whether they were optimistic or pessimistic about the future of their party after the five presidential and midterm elections from 2016 to 2024. Republicans in 2024 were more optimistic, 86-13, than after any of the previous four contests, including Donald Trump's 2016 victory. Among Democrats, optimism fell to 51 percent, while pessimism rose to 49 percent, well below the 61-38 for Democrats after the 2016 election.
Ken Martin, the chairman of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party and a leading candidate to become chairman of the Democratic National Committee, acknowledged this erosion of political clout in a memo to party leaders:
For the first time in modern history, the perception that Americans have of the two major political parties switched. The majority of Americans now believes that the Republican Party best represents the interests of the working class and the poor, and that the Democratic Party is the party of the wealthy and the elites. It's a damning indictment on our party brand.
Polling suggests that Trump is ideologically closer to the median voter than Kamala Harris. Third Way, a centrist Democratic think tank, conducted a post-election survey asking voters to place themselves, Harris and Trump on a scale ranging from zero (very liberal) to 10 (very conservative). The mean response for Harris was 2. 45, for Trump 7. 78 and for all voters 5. 63.
Matthew Dallek, a political historian at George Washington University, voiced serious doubts by email about the ability of the Democratic Party to compete successfully with the Republican Party:
A party whose base consists of culturally liberal, largely well-educated white Americans and a shrinking share of voters of color is almost by definition going to find it impossible to defend American democracy. Every Democratic president from Franklin Roosevelt to Joe Biden won the White House by voicing the fears and defending the interests of the working and middle classes. Democrats cannot credibly claim to represent the ideals of American democracy and peel support away from Trump's anti-elite, populist G. O. P. Without reimagining what it stands for and who is in its coalition.
The Democratic Party is perhaps more rudderless than at any time since Bill Clinton's presidency. Its leadership is aging. The party seems culturally out of touch to many Americans. Its brand is associated with championing niche interests, and the party — despite some crucial electoral victories — has ultimately failed its overarching mission since 2015 of defeating and defanging the MAGA movement.
In addition, Dallek went on to say, the centrality of anti-establishment themes in the MAGA movement makes opposition to it all the more difficult:
The Democratic Party faces a heavy burden: it has to defend democratic institutions in a time when these institutions are reviled by a large majority of the American electorate. Its message to the public that it is a bulwark of democracy failed to resonate with voters in November. In order to defend democracy, then, it must find ways to appeal to a majority of the American people on the bread-and-butter issues foremost in people's lives.
When Franklin Roosevelt called on the United States "to become the 'arsenal of democracy, Dallek wrote.
He persuaded citizens that protecting democracy was in their own self-interest: it was key to Americans' prosperity, freedoms, and their children's future. He helped explain to the public how anti-democratic threats imperiled their livelihoods. Today's Democratic Party has not yet found a way to make this case stick.
The pressure on the Democratic Party to assume the role of democracy's defender has arrived at a difficult time. Not only was the outcome of the 2024 election supremely deflating, but many of the party's institutional allies are struggling to deal with setbacks.
Controversies over pro-Palestinian demonstrations and expressions of antisemitism have forced the resignation of presidents of some of the nation's most prestigious universities. From 2015 to 2024, the share of adults with a "great deal" or "quite a lot" of confidence in higher education fell from 57 percent to 36 percent, while those with "very little" or "none" rose from 10 percent to 32 percent, according to Gallup.
The two liberal cable networks, CNN and MSNBC, have experienced sharp post-election declines in viewership. Forbes reported on Nov. 29 that "MSNBC's prime-time audience has dipped 53 percent since the week before the election," closely followed "by a 47 percent drop by CNN — while Fox News has largely held onto its audience since President-elect Donald Trump's victory. ".
In city after city, voters have ousted liberal district attorneys, many whose campaigns were backed by George Soros. Many if not most of those prosecutors pressed for no-bail policies and for the abandonment of prosecuting selected misdemeanors.
What's more, these cracks emerging in the institutional pillars of the left now accompany weakening Democratic support in three of its crucial constituencies: minorities, the young and urban voters.
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Trump and his allies are more than willing to kick an adversary when he or she is down. Don Moynihan, a professor of public policy at the University of Michigan, described by email the probable Republican agenda:
Authoritarians tend to target certain institutions to cement their control: typically the media, higher education, the bureaucracy, the legal system and the military. To varying degrees, Trump has promised to control, purge or punish all of these groups. He has pledged to remove woke bureaucrats and generals, and to protect free speech in the media and on campus by punishing organizations deemed to be outliers.
Moynihan stressed that "this is not about wokeness, or free speech; it is about Trump using government powers to engage in selective punishments and purges on a scale we really have not seen before. ".
Perhaps most striking is Trump's plan to excise a broad swath of the top ranks in the military, the crucial arm of government constraining or allowing authoritarian methods by the president.
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"I would fire them. You can't have a woke military," Trump said in a Fox News interview last June. And in a post-election podcast in November, Pete Hegseth, Trump's choice to become secretary of defense, said, "Any general that was involved — general, admiral, whatever — that was involved in any of the the. E. I. Woke shit, it's got to go. ".
The Trump transition team, The Wall Street Journal reported, is exploring the possibility of having Trump issue an executive order creating a "warrior board" of former ranking military personnel empowered to recommend removal of any three- or four-star generals found to be unfit for leadership.
Moynihan wrote that he has.
Taught and been impressed by a good number of military officers. The idea that the armed services is overrun with wokeness is simply not grounded in reality. "Wokeness" is really just an excuse to purge officials who might be expected to be less loyal to Trump.
Along similar lines, the American Accountability Foundation, a conservative group funded in part by the Heritage Foundation, was established in 2022 for the explicit purpose of "identifying and shining a spotlight on the high-ranking civil servants within the Departments of Homeland Security (DHS) and Justice (DOJ) who are likely to thwart an incoming conservative administration's immigration agenda. ".
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On Oct. 23, the Accountability Foundation announced publication of the "first tranche" of names and photos — the "Ten Top Targets"— of what it called "subversive, leftist bureaucrats serving in the federal government who cannot be trusted to enforce our immigration laws under a future administration intent on securing our border. ".
William Galston, a senior fellow at Brookings, warned in an email that "substantial portions of the Republican electoral base are so angry with 'liberal elites' that they will stop at nothing to destroy them, by whatever means Trump chooses to use. ".
At the same time, Galston continued, the Republican Party "contains many elected officials who believe in the Constitution and the rule of law but who are unwilling to risk their careers to defend them, especially if doing so requires them to break with or oppose Trump. ".
If Trump chooses "to arouse rather than tame the darkest passions of his base supporters, he and his followers will threaten constitutional democracy," Galston wrote. In those circumstances, "it will fall to the Democratic Party to defend constitutional democracy. ".
There are many hurdles the Democrats will have to overcome to be effective in that role.
First and foremost, according to Galston, will be regaining majority power "in at least one national institution. Democrats are currently consigned to minority status in all four — White House, the House of Representatives, the Senate, and the Supreme Court — and the trends revealed in the 2024 election are not encouraging. ".
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"The Democratic Party as now constituted," Galston added, "is not headed toward a durable majority. ".
The second hurdle is avoiding past strategic errors:
Even when Democrats do enjoy majorities, they have proved unwilling to give (or incapable of giving) priority to defending constitutional democracy. In the most recent Congress, for example, they failed to join bipartisan efforts to reform the dangerously broad Insurrection Act, reportedly because the Congressional Black Caucus refused to limit a tool used in the past to implement desegregation and civil rights laws against Southern opposition.
A political party, as Galston put it, echoing Justice Robert Jackson in 1949, "is not a suicide pact, and advocacy groups should stop pressuring elected officials to take positions that they cannot defend during elections. ".
How does that translate in practical terms?
Galston emailed his suggestions. For one, "Democrats must agree on an approach to immigration that can command majority support, even if left-leaning immigration lawyers denounce it. ".
And more generally, "without changes that subordinate moral posturing to the task of building a new majority, Democrats' efforts to protect constitutional institutions and democratic norms against populist ire may well fall short. ".
Robert Erickson, a political scientist at Columbia, pointed out in an email that the 2024 election presents a unique situation for the defeated party. He wrote by email:
Normally the task of the party that just lost the presidential election is for its members to leisurely lick their wounds, take an audit of their failings, and wait patiently for the eventual rebound. The losing party is otherwise irrelevant for the moment.
Trump's return presents a more urgent situation for the Democrats. Trump seeks to overturn the narrative about Jan. 6 and even jail some opponents. If he is allowed a clear runway, he can severely damage the rule of law. So the Democrats need to show that they will stand in his way and make him pause. For instance, Senate Democrats should challenge confirmation of political appointees who are J6 sympathizers or who would willingly facilitate retribution. Of course they would need at least a few Republican allies for any successful resistance.
Some analysts argue that a top priority for Democrats in 2025 should be building alliances with the few Republicans in Congress who have at least partially distanced themselves from Trump, including Senators Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Susan Collins of Maine.
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Without at least a semblance of bipartisanship, Democratic efforts to block Trump's anti-democratic initiatives will risk losing political legitimacy, their actions reduced in the minds of a deeply polarized electorate to political posturing, according to this line of thinking.
Julie Wronski, a political scientist at the University of Mississippi, elaborated on these themes in an email:
If there is a burden on the Democratic Party to be the protector of democracy, that burden entails genuine bipartisanship with democracy-supporting members of the Republican Party. It requires a flexible Democratic Party platform that is willing to compromise on various social and economic issues (immigration, trans rights, tax policies) in the short run to protect democracy in the long run. It requires an ideological pivot toward more moderate voters who may not always agree with socially and culturally liberal whites.
Trump and the Republican Party, Wronski continued.
Are not synonymous. Trump poses a threat to democracy. But the Republican Party is not just Trump, and there is variation within members of the Republican Party regarding support for upholding American democratic norms.
In that context, Wronski noted:
The threat posed by the Republican Party to American democracy will be their complacency in the face of Trump's behavior. Keep in mind, Republicans in the Senate could have convicted Trump for impeachable offenses following the Jan. 6 attack, but they chose not to.
One theme that repeatedly emerges in the comments of political analysts is the need for the Democratic Party and its candidates to regain the center and to avoid the adoption of more extreme cultural and social policies that alienate the middle and working classes.
At the same time, the conscious adoption of less controversial positions on cultural issues threatens to drive more radical constituencies "into abstention and sectarian party politics," Herbert Kitschelt, a political scientist at Duke who has studied the rise of populism in Europe, wrote by email.
But, Kitschelt continued.
The sustained pressure of an authoritarian Republican president and a Republican Party bending to that president's will could make it more likely for Democrats to coordinate and converge around political positions that promise electoral success with moderate voters while also preventing a retreat of more radical supporters into abstention, given how high the stakes are of the political game.
In other words, according to Kitschelt, the prospect of sustained defeat will be the mother of moderation:
Progressives in the Democratic Party have intolerantly preached distinctive conceptions of (group) tolerance that a majority of Americans have found to produce new forms of authoritarian intolerance — intolerance both at the level of individual, personal social interactions as well as at the level of group relations and political representation.
The apostles of an ethics of pure conviction — the uncompromising pursuit of intolerant moral postulates, no matter what may be the sacrifices, trade-offs, and prospects — will have to give way to an ethics of responsibility that weighs the opportunities to create political majorities, even if more far-reaching objectives of Democratic politics, as interpreted by this or that party wing, have to be put on the back burner, and probably permanently.
Losing political parties always go through a period of recrimination, blame and introspection, but this time the grieving among Democrats has taken on a tone of remorse and futility, a sense that Trump has tapped into a deepening well of anger and frustration that has the potential to become the dominant force in American politics for years to come.
Will America turn into an authoritarian one-party state as Trump seizes power and resources? Or will the United States once again — as it did during the American Revolution, the Civil War and two World Wars — demonstrate the resilience and creativity that carried it through crises in the past?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/11/opinion/democratic-party-wilderness-trump.html
Its all moot now, My Dearest Vladimir is crushing the vile vermin"The vile vermin" being Ukrainians defending their own country?
As Sen. Tuberville now takes up the mantle and is now the lead Hegseth (and disgraced pedo/sex trafficker Gaetz) sexual misconduct sympathizer, tying to confirm Hegseth.
In what obviously looks like, a fool's errand and kind of like, "the proverbial fat lady trying to shoe horn her fat foot into a shoe size too small" (...kkkk!)
The problem(s) with Tubervilles absurd defense of Pete Hegseth
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maddow-blog-the-problems-with-tuberville-s-absurd-defense-of-pete-hegseth/ar-AA1vcxzk
Let face it, Hegseth, couldn't run a street corner lemonade stand and make a profit, better then a savvy 5th grader. Hegseth, is so incompetent and inept, on two (2) separate occasions, he took the very simple job of running a VA office, with budgets of around $15 million and mismanaged them and ran them into the ground, twice (2x). Any competent idiot would have learned from the first VA failure.
This kind of ineptitude and mismanagement, shouldn't be anywhere near the DOD, with 3+ million employees and a budget of more than $857 billion dollars, despite the cheerleading idiots like Tuberville.The best part is when Dummy Dumberville assured us Trump wasn't going to nominate or appoint a "criminal" or anything like that. And then Trump promptly nominated or appointed TWO convicted criminals! LOL.
MarquisdeSade1
12-12-24, 19:17
"The vile vermin" being Ukrainians defending their own country?And those that support the 3 years of needless slaughter of many many good young men.
The Ukraine is not the victim here, they are the proxy for the provocateurs of the West.
Ukrainian men don't want to fight in this needless war they understand they are being used as meat for the meatgrinder for the benefit of the West.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-military-manpower-crisis-pressgang-recruitment/33161193.html
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
A classic case of projecting, reminds me of those politicians or clerics we see from time to time on the television constantly screaming about the evils of homosexuality, until of course they.
Are arrested for lewd behavior in public for visiting glory holes in books stores or man on man fellatio in public washrooms etcetera etcetera.
(...kkkk!) Yeah, you could be right about one thing, Repubs take the cake when it comes to your portrayal of "glory holes" and lewd behavior"!
Just take the latest round of Repoub hypocrites and "closet glory holers"
From Pastor and Lt.Gov. Mark Robinson (NC), jacking-off to porn repeatedly, with a pizza and soda, in said fav. dime store sex shop, to the anti-LGBTQ+ advocates Christian & Bridget Ziegler who loved threesomes with women (and men?), to Lauren Boebert hand-job jacking-off to Beetlejuice in public viewing, to ex-Gov. Eric Greitens (MO), charged with beating up his wife/kids and tying up and blackmailing his affair with his mistress with nude photos, to the Beavis & Butthead hijinx of Matt Gaetz and convicted and jailed Joel Greenberg's pedo sex trafficking, drug fueled sex parties, with questionably aged girls.
--50 times Republicans looked like fools and hypocrites in 2024
https://www.pride.com/politics/times-republicans-looked-like-fools-and-hypocrites-in-2024#rebelltitem18
Let's not forget some of the all-time Repub greats, like Trump (no explanation needed), Roy "Trolling Teenage Girls at the Mall" Moore, the many scandals of the disgraced and fake televangelists Jim & Tammy Bakker. Who can forget the notorious pool boy scandals and fake piety of Jerry Falwell, or Mark Foley, Jim Kolbe, Kathryn Lehman and Ken Mehlman...etc, the list is endless.
--18 Homophobic Leaders Who Turned Out to Be Gay or Bi
https://www.advocate.com/politicians/2018/5/24/18-homophobic-leaders-who-turned-out-be-gay-or-bi#rebelltitem25
Yep, one or two Dems on the list (as it has always been historically), but make no mistake about it, this "glory hole" projection of yours, is mainly the DOMAIN of Repub hypocrites.
Its all moot now, My Dearest Vladimir is crushing the vile vermin, and is protecting some of the greatest people in the world.
Love Live Russia!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
"The vile vermin" being Ukrainians defending their own country?
And those that support the 3 years of needless slaughter of many many good young men.
The Ukraine is not the victim here, they are the proxy for the provocateurs of the West.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.I see.
Just curious. Do you remember when it was the first time you fell in love with Putin?
Was it before or after you began hating your country?
I'm just curious what came first. Did you start hating America when you got fascinated with Putin or was Putin the answer to your hatred for America?
There is no doubt he agreed to ring the bell this morning on the assumption that his so far "meh" post-election relief rally would break into at least one demonstrably winning day after so many losing days in the Dow. So he gathered his family and a few favored cronies who stand to do most if not all of the real "winning" in his 2nd term to witness the Trumpian glory of it:
Trump rings bell at NYSE to cheers of 'USA' as Wall Street CEOs, business leaders look on.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/12/trump-rings-bell-at-nyse-to-cheers-of-usa-as-wall-street-ceos-business-leaders-look-on.html?__source=androidappshare
President-elect Donald Trump rang the opening bell at the New York Stock Exchange.
Trump was flanked by Vice President-elect JD Vance, incoming first lady Melania Trump, NYSE President Lynn Martin, and two of Trumps children, Ivanka and Tiffany.
The crowd of onlookers included Goldman Sachs David Solomon, Citigroups Jane Fraser, Verizons Hans Vestberg, Brian Cornell of Target, and Pershing Squares Bill Ackman.But, nope, the carefully orchestrated timing didn't turn out so well. LOL. Guess you can't always inherit good times and results produced by other people, virtually akways Dems. Just most of the time.
Dow futures are little changed after index posts longest losing streak since April: Live updates.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/12/stock-market-today-live-updates.html?__source=androidappshare
Dow futures were little changed in overnight trading Thursday following a losing session on Wall Street.Hey, where was "Elonia"? He should have been there hugging him even tighter than Melonia for that bell ringing.
Yes, Your typical Republican whacks off to porn, gets jacked off by busty MILF's in dark theatres, participates in threesomes with two women, bangs sugar babies, fucks porn stars and Playboy playmates, and grabs women by the pussy.
Your typical Democrat goes to feminist rallies and tries to get people fired for telling dirty jokes.
Your typical Libertarian believes in legalized prostitution.
Who's the most like you? Who would you rather have a beer with? Who should you vote for?
MarquisdeSade1
12-13-24, 07:37
Yes, Your typical Republican whacks off to porn, gets jacked off by busty MILF's in dark theatres, participates in threesomes with two women, bangs sugar babies, fucks porn stars and Playboy playmates, and grabs women by the pussy.
Your typical Democrat goes to feminist rallies and tries to get people fired for telling dirty jokes.
Your typical Libertarian believes in legalized prostitution.
Who's the most like you? Who would you rather have a beer with? Who should you vote for?Is the gay kind, see Jewish Barney Frank running a gay brothel out of his DC apartment.
MarquisdeSade1
12-13-24, 09:58
And those that support the 3 years of needless slaughter of many many good young men.
The Ukraine is not the victim here, they are the proxy for the provocateurs of the West.
Ukrainian men don't want to fight in this needless war they understand they are being used as meat for the meatgrinder for the benefit of the West.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-military-manpower-crisis-pressgang-recruitment/33161193.html
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.Send their young men to the meat grinder that is the Ukraine.
https://www.rt.com/news/609259-poland-troops-ukraine-tusk/
I'm guessing there won't be many, if any.
https://www.rt.com/news/609280-trump-eu-troops-ukraine/
"Nobody knew health care could be so complicated", said the numbskull "smart businessman" Repub Party icon who has spent 9 years mulling a "concept" of the Healthcare replacement for Obamacare and to this day has come up with zero.
We can add, "Nobody knew meaningful Infrastructure legislation and creating instead of destroying millions upon millions of jobs could be so complicated" to his repertoire of classic Know Nothing / Do Nothing Repub stalls and Lame Excuses.
And now we have "Nobody knew reducing the cost of "groceries", which is a word nobody knew about until I came along, could be so complicated."
Lolol. MAGAS, the Kremlin, China and Iran thank you for your vote.
Trump says it will be 'hard' to bring down grocery prices, pins hopes on lower energy costs and better supply chains.
The pace of food price growth has already slowed dramatically over the past year.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/trump-says-hard-bring-grocery-prices-down-why-rcna183960
Trump has promised to further increase American energy production. It is already at all-time highs.
He also did not specify how he would fix any supply chain issues, pivoting instead to complaints about the Biden administration's incentives for electric vehicles.
In fact, experts say Trump's much-talked-about tariffs proposals would likely exacerbate supply chain woes. It already happened during Trump's first administration, when ocean container shipping market rates spiked more than 70% in 2018 after he announced new tariffs, according to Reuters.
"Trumps import tariffs are history repeating and will cause a spike in ocean container shipping markets with consumers picking up the cost, Peter Sand, chief analyst at the shipping pricing platform Xeneta, told Reuters in September.
MarquisdeSade1
12-13-24, 10:35
I see.
Just curious. Do you remember when it was the first time you fell in love with Putin?
Was it before or after you began hating your country?
I'm just curious what came first. Did you start hating America when you got fascinated with Putin or was Putin the answer to your hatred for America?Xpartan Projecting Bob is the ideal name for you.
Well I love Putin and the Russian people I would love to swap out 1/2 of the USA for all of the people of Russia.
That would make the USA even better and send all the Cucks for Harris voters to a 3rd world shithole where they would be happier ala Port Au Prince.
MarquisdeSade1
12-13-24, 10:38
I wrote a couple posts but don't see them anywhere?
MarquisdeSade1
12-13-24, 19:58
Insider trading indictments.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/13/us/trump-transition-news#nancy-pelosi-hospitalized-Luxembourg-falling.
The Trump Administration: A Confederacy of Criminals. As everyone knows, I'm sure, the very stable genius knows "all the best" criminals.
SEC says Cantor Fitzgerald, led by Trump Commerce pick Lutnick, broke law.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/12/sec-cantor-fitzgerald-charges-howard-lutnick-trump-commerce-spac-.html?__source=androidappshare
WASHINGTON The Securities and Exchange Commission on Thursday charged global financial services firm Cantor Fitzgerald with violating laws related to regulatory disclosures by so-called blank-check companies before they raise money from the public.
Cantors chairman and CEO, Howard Lutnick, was recently nominated by President-elect Donald Trump to lead the Commerce Department. Lutnick is co-chair of Trumps transition team.
Cantor agreed to settle the SECs charges by agreeing to pay a $6.75 million civil penalty and agreeing to not violate the securities laws at issue in the case.
The firm did not admit or deny the charges, which relate to certain antifraud and proxy provisions of federal securities laws.
Cantors settlement echoes an $18 million settlement another blank-check firm, Digital World Acquisition Corp., agreed to pay to the SEC in July 2023 after being charged with fraud for failing to disclose to investors that DWAC had extensive merger discussions with Trumps then-private social media company, Trump Media. DWAC merged with Trump Media earlier this year.
It was unclear Thursday night whether the Trump transition vetting team was aware of the SECs investigation of Cantor when the president-elect said that he had selected Lutnick to become secretary of Commerce.History has shown it is simply not possible for The Trump Crime Family and Associates to make money without lying, cheating or stealing it.
Xpartan Projecting Bob is the ideal name for you.
Well I love Putin and the Russian people I would love to swap out 1/2 of the USA for all of the people of Russia.
That would make the USA even better and send all the Cucks for Harris voters to a 3rd world shithole where they would be happier ala Port Au Prince.If you really loved Russia and know about the country, then you can t support crazy shameful dangerous Putin who kill and fuck Russians who are blind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversy_in_Russia_regarding_the_legitimacy_of_eastward_NATO_expansion
https://www.rt.com/news/609134-musk-trmp-junior-zelensky-meme/
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/29/1076193616/ukraine-russia-nato-explainer
Its all moot now, My Dearest Vladimir is crushing the vile vermin, and is protecting some of the greatest people in the world.
Love Live Russia!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.Shame on you. You claim to love Russia and you don t know Russians and Ukrainians are brothers, with many mixed families, children who have parents Russian and Ukrainian. And more than 1 million dead and misery, Putin even killing babies and children. Urgent to erase him.
MarquisdeSade1
12-13-24, 21:11
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/13/business/mckinsey-oxycontin-settlement.html
Xpartan Projecting Bob is the ideal name for you.
Well I love Putin and the Russian people I would love to swap out 1/2 of the USA for all of the people of Russia.
That would make the USA even better and send all the Cucks for Harris voters to a 3rd world shithole where they would be happier ala Port Au Prince.I presumed you hated your country in whole when you called it "vile vermin," but apparently you only hate 50% of America. That makes you 50% more humanitarian than I thought you were. Kudos!
And those that support the 3 years of needless slaughter of many many good young men.
The Ukraine is not the victim here, they are the proxy for the provocateurs of the West.
Ukrainian men don't want to fight in this needless war they understand they are being used as meat for the meatgrinder for the benefit of the West.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-military-manpower-crisis-pressgang-recruitment/33161193.html
The only "acceptable" prostitution to the hyper femininized left
Is the gay kind, see Jewish Barney Frank running a gay brothel out of his DC apartment.You should avoid posting about economics. When you stick to foreign policy and the proclivities of hyper left Democrats you make a lot more sense.
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-one-thing-no-one-is-mentioning-in-their-barney-frank-tributes-the-prostitutes-2011-11
MarquisdeSade1
12-13-24, 22:50
Oh, "Pope Francis said," huh. LOL, didn't see that coming.
Now you went ahead and found another dude as delusional as you are.
Good job!https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/provoked-long-train-abuses-culminated-ukraine-war
MarquisdeSade1
12-13-24, 22:54
There is no doubt he agreed to ring the bell this morning on the assumption that his so far "meh" post-election relief rally would break into at least one demonstrably winning day after so many losing days in the Dow. So he gathered his family and a few favored cronies who stand to do most if not all of the real "winning" in his 2nd term to witness the Trumpian glory of it:
Trump rings bell at NYSE to cheers of 'USA' as Wall Street CEOs, business leaders look on.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/12/trump-rings-bell-at-nyse-to-cheers-of-usa-as-wall-street-ceos-business-leaders-look-on.html?__source=androidappshare
But, nope, the carefully orchestrated timing didn't turn out so well. LOL. Guess you can't always inherit good times and results produced by other people, virtually akways Dems. Just most of the time.
Dow futures are little changed after index posts longest losing streak since April: Live updates.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/12/stock-market-today-live-updates.html?__source=androidappshare
Hey, where was "Elonia"? He should have been there hugging him even tighter than Melonia for that bell ringing.Please give us your opinion of the quote about 2 billionaires with the black background, lets hear it.
MarquisdeSade1
12-13-24, 22:56
You should avoid posting about economics. When you stick to foreign policy and the proclivities of hyper left Democrats you make a lot more sense.
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-one-thing-no-one-is-mentioning-in-their-barney-frank-tributes-the-prostitutes-2011-11That you a Chase the Gun Oliver voter doesn't like my posts that concern economics!!
Now that Trump's already "meh" post-election relief rally has apparently morphed into a notable series of losers not suffered in the Dow since Trump's previous term, even stubbornly resistant to Trump's magic words, magic wand and magic bell ringing:
Dow slides for a seventh straight day for longest losing streak since 2020.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/12/stock-market-today-live-updates.html?__source=androidappshare
We might well ask is it because the reality of Trump's America-hating clown show of a clown administration is now coming into focus in general.
Or is it more specifically because, say, his nominee to head the FBI has been very vocal about fulfilling the decades' long Repub Party mission to Defund the Police by starting with the federal law enforcement agency responsible for preventing the next Repub GW Bush-style Attack on 9-11?
Trump picks loyalist Kash Patel to head FBI
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-picks-kash-patel-head-fbi-2024-12-01/
Patel, who during Trump's first term advised both the director of national intelligence and the secretary of defense, has previously called for stripping the FBI of its intelligence-gathering role and purging its ranks of any employee who refuses to support Trump's agenda.Or perhaps because his nominee for Secretary of Health and Human Brain-eating Worms has already gotten the ball rolling on creating Trump's Pandemic Part 2, only this time with Polio instead of with Covid? Or perhaps in addition to Covid and a few other scourges?
RFK Jr.s lawyer petitions the FDA to revoke its approval of the polio vaccine.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rfk-jr-lawyer-petitions-fda-192545811.html
Siri, a prominent conspiracy theorist like Kennedy, has already filed a petition to pause the distribution of 13 other vaccines, including those that protect against hepatitis B and COVID-19. His latest filing was to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Like Kennedy, Siri is critical of vaccines, and through Informed Consent Action Network, a nonprofit with which both men are affiliated , each person has repeatedly made the false claim that vaccines are dangerous or cause autism.Or is it about the sexually abusive roaring drunk he wants to head The Defense Department?
(No link necessary).
Or is it simply that the market has by now figured out that the numbskull President-elect who is a 34 times convicted Felon for conspiring to steal a previous election and produced every horrific result in his previous term to fully deserve a bi-partisan team of historians to rank him as The Worst President in History has been granted the opportunity to repeat that accomplishment by less than 115,000 angry, Netanyahu-hating but already regretful Muslims spread across the only decisive three states in the country?
These are all possibilities if not probabilities worth considering at this point.
MarquisdeSade1
12-14-24, 02:28
If anyone can find a passage in this blithering, blathering, incoherent nonsense from Trump in this first post-Squeaker Handful of a Muslim Jihad Against America Election interview that suggests in any way that Trump is informed, intelligent, prepared and fit to serve as anything except perhaps as Liar-in-Chief for a Con Man Clinic, you deserve a cookie:
Read the full transcript: President-elect Donald Trump interviewed by "Meet the Press" moderator Kristen Welker.
Trump spoke with NBC News for more than an hour in an interview that covered a range of topics.
Dec. 9, 2024
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-interview-meet-press-kristen-welker-election-president-rcna182857
I am telling you his only "plan" is to bluster, blather and complain for the next four years, coast on the terrific, Envy of the World Biden-Harris Economy he will inherit and play lots and lots and lots of golf, exactly as he did the first time around with the terrific Obama-Biden economy he inherited. And he will do that until he recognizes and seizes upon the opportunity to usher in and exacerbate another "Once in 100 Years Disaster" that only happen under Repub presidents and never under Dem presidents to exploit and blame on everyone else.
Whatever stray legislation or Executive Order he proposes and sticks will most certainly turn out to be a colossal addition to the deficit producing virtually no perceivable benefit to anyone but his already wealthy cronies.
He is the Unsolvable Mythical Grievances President for the Unsolvable Mythical Grievances MAGA Repub Party, a true modern-day blight and menace to economic success, national security and democratic freedom.
To the relative handful of angry Netanyahu-hating but already regretful Muslims in PA, MI and WI who "gave Trump the presidency" and the similarly-motivated MAGA Repubs around the country who squeaked out a razor-thin Plurality of the vote for him this time around, The Kremlin thanks you.https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/13/business/trump-bessent-economic-strategy.html
President-elect Donald J. Trump could soon brandish three arrows of his own. Mr. Trump's Treasury secretary pick, Scott Bessent, has mapped out a three-pronged approach to jump-starting a USA Economy that has been saddled with inflation and sluggish output.
MarquisdeSade1
12-14-24, 03:39
I see.
Just curious. Do you remember when it was the first time you fell in love with Putin?
Was it before or after you began hating your country?
I'm just curious what came first. Did you start hating America when you got fascinated with Putin or was Putin the answer to your hatred for America?https://www.rt.com/russia/608809-trenin-russia-win-ukraine/
Ah, those Magic Trump Words. LOL.
See, this is why and how Trump's mere blathering threats of increasing prices on imports accomplish that result even BEFORE his 10%-25%-200% Tax Increases on American Consumers are officially applied to the system. Or even if he drops the idea of doing it. Or even if he is too busy golfing, golfing, golfing at his failed resorts to get around to it.
It doesn't matter; The angry, Netanyahu-hating but already regretful handful of Muslims "mandate" President-elect Trump has already triggered supply-chain / delivery'chain price increases that will, not might, be passed on to sucker MAGAs, Bothsider / Neithersiders, non-Dem voters and, unfortunately, everyone else in America. And he did it just with his blithering, blathering "smart businessman's" Magic Words.
Shipping giant Maersk sees 'another year of disruption' for global trade in 2025.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/13/shipping-giant-maersk-sees-another-year-of-disruption-for-global-trade.html?__source=androidappshare
The disruptions include another potential International Longshoremens Association strike at East Coast and Gulf ports across the U.S., and tariff threats made by President-elect Trump ahead of an early Lunar New Year in Asia, when many manufacturing plants in China are idled for a month.
These threats have stoked the price of the cargo container as shippers vie for the coveted boxes to ship their imports. Over the last several months, ocean freight spot rates had been on the decline, but on Monday, when ocean carriers released their rates for the Dec. 15- Dec. 31 bookings, logistics managers told CNBC they jumped, a bullish demand indicator.
In ContainerXChanges latest update, it reported North America has experienced the sharpest rise on a global basis, at 20%, in average container prices over the last 90 days.
The National Retail Federation recently said inbound cargo traffic as a result of strike and tariff threats would fuel container import records in both November and December.
Maersk has started to see a progression of trade moving over to the West Coast, Van der Steene said. With volumes remaining strong, We can at least conclude that volumes are being pulled forward, or volumes are incredibly more strong now because of the anticipation of a potential disruption, he said.And on that potential Longshoremsn's strike price-increasing disruption, Trump is claiming he will do the same thing Joe Biden did to end it quickly for the sake of the workers and for the benefit of America, because:
A strike that lasts longer than a few days would cost the U.S. economy $5-$7 billion per week, according to EY.However, bear in mind Joe Biden was known and for decades proved himself to be a truth-telling American Patriot always putting America First, making difficult decisions and taking principled stands regardless of the political risk that turned out to produce the very best results for America and the vast majority of Americans.
Uh. But Donald Trump is known and proven throughout his life to be a pathological liar about everything big and small, to always put himself first, everyone else be damned, and who makes decisions from his golf cart that turn out to be the most damaging to America, the vast majority of Americans and everyone else in the world, totally justifying his ranking among bi-partisan teams of presidential hisorians as The Worst President in History.
Big difference.
The Trump / Repub 'squeaker' of a win just got squeakier, taking the Repub expertise at rigging elections to new heights:
GOP Gerrymandering in NC Tipped the Scales of Congress, Outgoing Lawmaker Says.
The MAGA Republicans in Raleigh didnt care about reflecting the will of the people, Rep. Wiley Nickel wrote. https://truthout.org/articles/gop-gerrymandering-in-nc-tipped-the-scales-of-congress-outgoing-lawmaker-says/
In an op-ed for the Raleigh News & Observer, Nickel noted that the result of the presidential election in North Carolina and the results of other races in the state showed close to a 50-50 split, representative of the purple status North Carolina is known for. However, because of Republican gerrymandering last year, the congressional delegation leaned Republican, with a 10-4 split.
What is even more alarming in North Carolina (NC), about the corrupt Repub's over-the-top and extreme aggressive gerrymandering you cited, is their deceitful, shameful and unabashed desire to hold on to power, in a resounding defeat, by Dems and the will of North Carolinians, that resoundingly voted for democracy and Dems, down ballot.
Yes, the power hunger, corrupt and political abusers of American democracy, the Repubs, have yet again found a way to pervert democracy and the will of the people, with a bill that strips power from incoming Democratic elected officials, so now law in NC.
North Carolina GOP lawmakers enact a law eroding the incoming Democratic governors powers, Dec 12th, 2024 https://apnews.com/article/north-carolina-legislature-veto-governor-powers-9da3f0f546300707da96d379ff88341c
So it appears, that on the way out the door, the outgoing Repubs in NC, have "jerry-rigged", a hurricane Helene relief bill, to hamstring and handicap the legislative power of the incoming Dems, who won all state down-ballot offices, except one, where this power grab bill now puts the bulk of the legislative power, with the State Auditor, Dave Boliek (a Trump bootlicker (...kkkk!) and election denier), the one down ballot race, the Dems, unfortunately did not win. Essentially, bypassing the incoming Dem Governor, majority Dem State Congress and state offices, into what most likely will become, a "lame-duck" state parliament.
Once again a prime example, of the shameful and unmitigated gall from Repubs, who care nothing for the vote from hardworking Americans, and place power, greed and a fealty, to a wannabe "orange" dictator, above the love for democracy and their country.
Can't wait for the false equivalences on this one, from the MAGA peanut gallery! (...kkkk!)
After jumping like monkey Musk buying votes with his millions for Trump, also corruption for Trump? What a really great country like in third world.
Trifecta68
12-14-24, 18:05
Are you Overjoyed that We Shall Never have to Hear from Cackling Kamala Jones Ever Again? Also Uncle Obama's Deep State Shadow government Shall Be Destroyed?Wood, Love your Patriotic Post! Just hoping Trump & His Team can execute thru the criminal cartel of Democrat governance. I could go on with hundreds of other issues, but this board is not for that.
Tiny's heroes:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Portrait_of_Milton_Friedman.jpg
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Margaret-Thatcher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUYPNsTpO4Y
Tooms' heroes:
https://people.com/politics/jimmy-carter-life-in-pictures/
https://x.com/econjared?lang=en
https://sandersinstitute.org/fellows/dr-stephanie-kelton
Sirioja's heroes:
https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/thomas-piketty-interview-inequality-book-covid/
https://eml.berkeley.edu/~saez/Saez_photopage_8_1.html
https://gabriel-zucman.eu/bio/
Two of Sirioja's three heroes moved moved to the USA because the economy in France sucked. Kind of like California progressives who move to Austin, Texas.
The Marquis' heroes:
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/nov/30/bernie-sanders-mittens-viral-biden-inaugu-brendan-smialowskis-best-photograph
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Juan-Peron
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Karl-Marx
Tiny's heroes:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Portrait_of_Milton_Friedman.jpg
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Margaret-Thatcher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUYPNsTpO4Y
Tooms' heroes:
https://people.com/politics/jimmy-carter-life-in-pictures/
https://x.com/econjared?lang=en
https://sandersinstitute.org/fellows/dr-stephanie-kelton
Sirioja's heroes:
https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/thomas-piketty-interview-inequality-book-covid/
https://eml.berkeley.edu/~saez/Saez_photopage_8_1.html
https://gabriel-zucman.eu/bio/
Two of Sirioja's three heroes moved moved to the USA because the economy in France sucked. Kind of like California progressives who move to Austin, Texas.
The Marquis' heroes:
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/nov/30/bernie-sanders-mittens-viral-biden-inaugu-brendan-smialowskis-best-photograph
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Juan-Peron
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Karl-MarxMine were the only ones who actually produced historic economic recoveries and job gains.
Thank you.
Yours?
Margaret Thatcher:
The result was a dramatic increase in unemployment, from 1.3 million in 1979 to more than double that figure two years later. At the same time, inflation doubled in just 14 months, to more than 20 percent, and manufacturing output fell sharply. Although inflation decreased and output rose before the end of her first term, unemployment continued to increase, reaching more than three million in 1986.Typical of the "conservative" Repub presidential results in the USA. Seems to the pattern of "conservative" economic philosophies and agendas worldwide and throughout history.
All of the others are a joke; fanciful, lazy academic theories that fail miserably in the Real World.
Sorry to say the price of eggs and egg-related "groceries", a word nobody used until Donald Trump started using it, had nothing to do with Joe Biden after the price of many foods and restaurant menu items began to skyrocket in 2018 due to Trump's failed Trade War with China and other countries, his tariffs and, of course, his supply-chain destruction during Trump's Pandemic.
And, no, Joe did not defund and remove any Bird Flu Pandemic Prevention teams against all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid and then spend a critical year lying about it to thereby usher in and exacerbate Bird Flu the way Trump ushered in and exacerbated Trump's Pandemic. It spreads into effective pandemics due to uncontrollable worldwide Bird migration.
Egg prices may soon 'flirt with record highs,' supplier says. Here's why.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/12/why-egg-prices-may-soon-flirt-with-record-highs-supplier.html?__source=androidappshare
There are two primary reasons for the surge: bird flu, which has reduced egg supply, and the strong consumer demand thats typical around the winter holiday season, according to economists and market analysts.
..........
How a serious bird flu outbreak is affecting egg prices
Now, as in 2022-23, highly pathogenic avian influenza better known as bird flu is a big culprit.
Bird flu is a highly contagious and lethal disease among birds, including chickens. The U.S. is in the midst of a serious outbreak, Moscogiuri said.
The disease entered the U.S. in late 2021 and has lingered, experts said. Prior to that, the last time bird flu had impacted egg-laying chickens at commercial farms was in 2015, Moscogiuri said.What is bird flu and how worried should I be about a pandemic?
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-63464065
H5N1 has been on scientists' radar for the past few years, with the virus spreading across all continents. Thousands of outbreaks have been recorded in poultry and wild birds.
There have been outbreaks in animals farmed for their fur, including mink.
In late 2023 in Peru, more than 5,000 sea lions died with the virus, which scientists say was caused by the animals' direct contact with infected wild birds.
There have been outbreaks in animals farmed for their fur, including mink.
In late 2023 in Peru, more than 5,000 sea lions died with the virus, which scientists say was caused by the animals' direct contact with infected wild birds.
The virus has also been detected in foxes, bears, otters, raccoons, cats, dogs, goats and others.
"It's a virus that's on the march so we've been watching it with concern for that reason," says Dr Ed Hutchinson, Senior Lecturer, MRC-University of Glasgow Centre for Virus Research.However, sure enough, in Trump's zeal to embrace and exacerbate any available "Once in 100 Years" typical and common Repub Disaster, his nominee for Secretary of Health and Human Brain-eating Worms appears to be poised to promote everything necessary to usher in a Bird Flu Pandemic among humans:
Vaccines, fluoride, raw milk: How RFK Jr.s views may shape public health.
Kennedys debunked claims on many public health topics make him a controversial pick to lead HHS
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/rfk-vaccines-fluoride-autism-milk-covid
Fact: Microbes in raw milk can make people sick
Whats more, genetic traces of bird flu have shown up in milk amid an outbreak in U.S. dairy cows (SN: 4/25/24). While pasteurization kills the virus, it could stick around in raw milk and pose an infection risk. Mice that consume virus-spiked milk can get infected with bird flu, for example, suggesting humans might be at risk, too.Therefore, let us all pray to whatever religious denomination totem suits us that Trump's Magic Words can not only reduce the cost of eggs and egg-related "groceries", with an appreciative nod to him for being the first person to ever use that word, but that he can also wave his Magic Wand and clear RFK Jr's raw milk recommendation of any traces of Bird Flu Virus that might trigger Trump's Pandemic Part 2.
Oh, and to prevent the total national health disaster RFK Jr's other Loony stances are sure to usher in. See the full report and list of horrors in the link above.
MarquisdeSade1
12-14-24, 22:15
Wood, Love your Patriotic Post! Just hoping Trump & His Team can execute thru the criminal cartel of Democrat governance. I could go on with hundreds of other issues, but this board is not for that.https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2024/12/12/nolte-lesley-stahl-van-jones-extremely-worried-death-corporate-media-influence/
Thanks Scumbag Joe.
MarquisdeSade1
12-14-24, 22:21
Tiny's heroes:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Portrait_of_Milton_Friedman.jpg
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Margaret-Thatcher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUYPNsTpO4Y
Tooms' heroes:
https://people.com/politics/jimmy-carter-life-in-pictures/
https://x.com/econjared?lang=en
https://sandersinstitute.org/fellows/dr-stephanie-kelton
Sirioja's heroes:
https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/thomas-piketty-interview-inequality-book-covid/
https://eml.berkeley.edu/~saez/Saez_photopage_8_1.html
https://gabriel-zucman.eu/bio/
Two of Sirioja's three heroes moved moved to the USA because the economy in France sucked. Kind of like California progressives who move to Austin, Texas.
The Marquis' heroes:
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/nov/30/bernie-sanders-mittens-viral-biden-inaugu-brendan-smialowskis-best-photograph
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Juan-Peron
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Karl-MarxDonald Trump is a living GOD.
MarquisdeSade1
12-14-24, 22:23
Wood, Love your Patriotic Post! Just hoping Trump & His Team can execute thru the criminal cartel of Democrat governance. I could go on with hundreds of other issues, but this board is not for that.Thats exactly what this thread is for.
MarquisdeSade1
12-14-24, 22:34
Shame on you. You claim to love Russia and you don t know Russians and Ukrainians are brothers, with many mixed families, children who have parents Russian and Ukrainian. And more than 1 million dead and misery, Putin even killing babies and children. Urgent to erase him.I don't support the war, I only support the Russians winning it!!
I am Anti-War unless it directly involves Xi Jinping.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/provoked-long-train-abuses-culminated-ukraine-war
https://www.rt.com/news/609361-trump-eu-nightmare-punishment/
https://www.rt.com/russia/608809-trenin-russia-win-ukraine/
I want you to send your sons when Macron conscripts them.
MarquisdeSade1
12-15-24, 07:59
Tiny's heroes:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Portrait_of_Milton_Friedman.jpg
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Margaret-Thatcher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUYPNsTpO4Y
Tooms' heroes:
https://people.com/politics/jimmy-carter-life-in-pictures/
https://x.com/econjared?lang=en
https://sandersinstitute.org/fellows/dr-stephanie-kelton
Sirioja's heroes:
https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/thomas-piketty-interview-inequality-book-covid/
https://eml.berkeley.edu/~saez/Saez_photopage_8_1.html
https://gabriel-zucman.eu/bio/
Two of Sirioja's three heroes moved moved to the USA because the economy in France sucked. Kind of like California progressives who move to Austin, Texas.
The Marquis' heroes:
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/nov/30/bernie-sanders-mittens-viral-biden-inaugu-brendan-smialowskis-best-photograph
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Juan-Peron
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Karl-Marxhttps://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/14/opinion/china-trump-us-rivalry.html
Trump's Way Could Win the Contest With China Once and for All.
Nov. 14,2024.
An image shows the arms of then-president Donald Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping extended for a handshake against a backdrop representing the Chinese and American flags.
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By Craig Singleton.
Mr. Singleton is a China analyst and senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies in Washington.
Donald Trump's first term signaled a historic shift in USA Policy toward China. His strategic blend of economic pressure, unpredictability, sanctions and tariffs knocked Beijing off balance. It was a turning point: Washington moved from passive acceptance of China's revisionist ambitions to assertive opposition. The Biden administration has wisely maintained and in some cases expanded on this framework.
Mr. Trump's second term could help America to win this strategic contest altogether.
China faces an array of challenges, especially a stagnating economy, making it vulnerable to the president-elect's assertive tactics. If Mr. Trump can couple the blustery style of his first term with a more focused strategy and tighter discipline, the next four years are a golden opportunity to keep Beijing on the defensive and permanently transform the rivalry in America's favor.
For China, the ideal outcome in the USA Election would have been another four years of the Biden-Harris administration's cautious approach. Although President Biden maintained targeted pressure on Beijing, his emphasis on theétente and aversion to escalation would have afforded China's leader, Xi Jinping, the predictability he needs to address his domestic troubles and advance China's ambitions in critical areas such as technology, trade and the future of Taiwan.
But Mr. Trump isn't content with merely managing the competition with Beijing. He aims to win it. His zero-sum approach and unconventional tactics — as well as an emerging cabinet of China hawks — are likely to deny Mr. Xi the breathing room he desperately needs and push the Chinese leader into a high-stakes test of wills he cannot easily control or predict.
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Despite a decade of projecting outward strength, China is, in fact, a declining power, its rise having been undone by Mr. Xi's mismanagement, heavy-handed repression and strategic blunders. The country faces crippling debt, record-high youth unemployment and a shrinking, rapidly aging population. His ideology-driven approach, which places the Chinese Communist Party at the heart of economic decision making, has eroded business confidence, spurred capital flight and led to unprecedented drops in foreign investment. China's era of sky-high growth is giving way to a stagnation reminiscent of Japan's so-called lost decade, a period of deflation and economic inertia from which Japan has yet to fully recover. Even Mr. Xi cautioned citizens last year to be prepared to "eat bitterness," a Chinese phrase signaling hard times ahead.
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The USA Economy, meanwhile, is gaining momentum, and Mr. Trump — who views China's centrally planned, manufacturing-heavy model as predatory and harmful to American workers — seems ready to aggressively leverage USA Strength, as he did in his first term. He has proposed tariffs as high as 60 percent on Chinese imports, which, according to some estimates, could shave up to two percentage points off China's gross domestic product.
The bluster and brinkmanship of Mr. Trump's first term could also prove invaluable regarding Taiwan. Mr. Xi's goal is to bring the democratically ruled island under Chinese rule, by force if necessary. Mr. Trump, however, is threatening tariffs as high as 200 percent on Chinese goods if China takes military action. The president-elect summed up the situation best when he noted last month that Mr. Xi wouldn't dare provoke him over Taiwan because the Chinese leader knows that he's "crazy. ".
Chinese anxiety over Mr. Trump's return is already surfacing. During the Biden administration, Beijing often struck a defiant tone, accusing the United States of encirclement and containment. But after Mr. Trump's decisive election victory, Chinese leaders quickly struck a more conciliatory tone, calling for peaceful coexistence and a new era of cooperation.
But America must build on today's momentum, especially in the high-stakes contest with China over critical technologies such as semiconductors, artificial intelligence, autonomous vehicles and quantum computing — the engines of tomorrow's industrial revolution. Allowing China to seize the lead would dangerously tilt global power dynamics in its favor, undermining USA National security. Mr. Trump recognizes this risk and has signaled he would probably intensify tariffs, export controls and sanctions on China's tech and manufacturing sectors that have already hindered the country's economy and its potential for innovation. He may also champion tighter screening of USA Investments in China's tech sector, a strategy that has bipartisan support and could impede China's development and deployment of advanced military capabilities.
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Mr. Xi is pinning China's economic hopes on an outdated, state-subsidized manufacturing-for-export model. But this strategy is highly vulnerable to USA Tariffs. Mr. Xi might appeal to Mr. Trump's deal-making instincts by offering selective concessions to blunt the impact of tariffs, but these are unlikely to sway Mr. Trump for long.
Mr. Xi has tools of his own that he can use, but nearly all of them are risky. He could shore up his economy by cutting interest rates, extending tax rebates or further subsidizing exporters. But these are short-term remedies that are likely to worsen long-term economic instability by inflating China's staggering debt, which is currently estimated to be nearly three times the size of the country's G. The. P. Striking back with his own tariffs could ignite a trade war that affects USA Consumers, but Mr. Trump has shown a readiness to absorb short-term political costs for strategic gain, and polls indicate that most Americans support his tariff threats.
Mr. Xi could retaliate by restricting USA Companies' access to Chinese markets, but that may further unsettle foreign investors already wary of China's economic trajectory. Curbing Chinese exports of minerals essential for high-tech manufacturing could also backfire by accelerating USA -led efforts to secure alternative sources. Devaluing the Chinese currency would make the country's exports cheaper, offsetting the impact of tariffs. But it is likely to accelerate capital flight and strain relations with other trade partners.
As a last resort, Mr. Xi could escalate tensions over Taiwan or in the South China Sea, but that risks galvanizing USA Alliances and inviting a stronger American military presence in the region.
To fully capitalize on China's current vulnerabilities and secure lasting American advantages, the next Trump administration must recognize the historic opportunity it faces. Today's international landscape echoes the latter stages of the Cold War, when President Ronald Reagan confronted a weakening Soviet Union and hastened its collapse by forcing Moscow to make costly resource allocation decisions that ultimately bankrupted it. This isn't to suggest America's goal with China should be regime change; rather, the United States should aim beyond mere coexistence. It should confidently wield the moral and economic strength of its democratic model until China's leaders and people recognize that their system is unsustainable and embrace a freer and less hostile path.
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But achieving lasting success will require more than pressuring China for pressure's sake. It will demand a wider peace-through-strength approach that combines American domestic renewal, enhanced military spending, entrepreneurial dynamism and, critically, the alliance network that Mr. Biden revitalized across Asia and Europe. The incoming administration needs to grasp that this is a crucial piece of the puzzle in confronting China and ensure that a renewed "America First" approach focuses on fair burden sharing among allies rather than excessive tariffs on allies or questioning American commitments to mutual defense arrangements. These would only undermine deterrence and create diplomatic rifts that China would be quick to exploit.
Mr. Trump's bold style isn't for the fainthearted. In a time of fierce global competition, he sees balance as weakness and coexistence as capitulation. Yet if he can draw from past lessons, engage with our allies and stay disciplined, he just might be crazy enough to confront China — and win.
I don't support the war, I only support the Russians winning it!!
I am Anti-War unless it directly involves Xi Jinping.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/provoked-long-train-abuses-culminated-ukraine-war
https://www.rt.com/news/609361-trump-eu-nightmare-punishment/
https://www.rt.com/russia/608809-trenin-russia-win-ukraine/
I want you to send your sons when Macron conscripts them.Ukrainians are fully right to defend their country and freedom, and when I love Russia, but hate Putin, I will always support Ukrainians versus criminal Putin. Same like if China attacked USA, they would eat You with their 1,4 billions, when You lost in Vietnam, Afghanistan versus rats, when they will start eating You for economics strength, when senile Trump will fuck You.
Donald Trump is a living GOD.When more difficult to shoot his ear than his senile big head, we could wonder if not organized just to make believing so many low brained in USA, who think they elected a lying god. They may experience how new god will fuck them, I would then laugh a lot.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/14/opinion/china-trump-us-rivalry.html
Trump's Way Could Win the Contest With China Once and for All.
Nov. 14,2024.
An image shows the arms of then-president Donald Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping extended for a handshake against a backdrop representing the Chinese and American flags.
Credit. Damir Sagolj / Reuters.
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By Craig Singleton.
Mr. Singleton is a China analyst and senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies in Washington.
Donald Trump's first term signaled a historic shift in USA Policy toward China. His strategic blend of economic pressure, unpredictability, sanctions and tariffs knocked Beijing off balance. It was a turning point: Washington moved from passive acceptance of China's revisionist ambitions to assertive opposition. The Biden administration has wisely maintained and in some cases expanded on this framework.
Mr. Trump's second term could help America to win this strategic contest altogether.
China faces an array of challenges, especially a stagnating economy, making it vulnerable to the president-elect's assertive tactics. If Mr. Trump can couple the blustery style of his first term with a more focused strategy and tighter discipline, the next four years are a golden opportunity to keep Beijing on the defensive and permanently transform the rivalry in America's favor.
For China, the ideal outcome in the USA Election would have been another four years of the Biden-Harris administration's cautious approach. Although President Biden maintained targeted pressure on Beijing, his emphasis on thetente and aversion to escalation would have afforded China's leader, Xi Jinping, the predictability he needs to address his domestic troubles and advance China's ambitions in critical areas such as technology, trade and the future of Taiwan.
But Mr. Trump isn't content with merely managing the competition with Beijing. He aims to win it. His zero-sum approach and unconventional tactics as well as an emerging cabinet of China hawks are likely to deny Mr. Xi the breathing room he desperately needs and push the Chinese leader into a high-stakes test of wills he cannot easily control or predict.
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Despite a decade of projecting outward strength, China is, in fact, a declining power, its rise having been undone by Mr. Xi's mismanagement, heavy-handed repression and strategic blunders. The country faces crippling debt, record-high youth unemployment and a shrinking, rapidly aging population. His ideology-driven approach, which places the Chinese Communist Party at the heart of economic decision making, has eroded business confidence, spurred capital flight and led to unprecedented drops in foreign investment. China's era of sky-high growth is giving way to a stagnation reminiscent of Japan's so-called lost decade, a period of deflation and economic inertia from which Japan has yet to fully recover. Even Mr. Xi cautioned citizens last year to be prepared to "eat bitterness," a Chinese phrase signaling hard times ahead.
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The USA Economy, meanwhile, is gaining momentum, and Mr. Trump who views China's centrally planned, manufacturing-heavy model as predatory and harmful to American workers seems ready to aggressively leverage USA Strength, as he did in his first term. He has proposed tariffs as high as 60 percent on Chinese imports, which, according to some estimates, could shave up to two percentage points off China's gross domestic product.
The bluster and brinkmanship of Mr. Trump's first term could also prove invaluable regarding Taiwan. Mr. Xi's goal is to bring the democratically ruled island under Chinese rule, by force if necessary. Mr. Trump, however, is threatening tariffs as high as 200 percent on Chinese goods if China takes military action. The president-elect summed up the situation best when he noted last month that Mr. Xi wouldn't dare provoke him over Taiwan because the Chinese leader knows that he's "crazy. ".
Chinese anxiety over Mr. Trump's return is already surfacing. During the Biden administration, Beijing often struck a defiant tone, accusing the United States of encirclement and containment. But after Mr. Trump's decisive election victory, Chinese leaders quickly struck a more conciliatory tone, calling for peaceful coexistence and a new era of cooperation.
But America must build on today's momentum, especially in the high-stakes contest with China over critical technologies such as semiconductors, artificial intelligence, autonomous vehicles and quantum computing the engines of tomorrow's industrial revolution. Allowing China to seize the lead would dangerously tilt global power dynamics in its favor, undermining USA National security. Mr. Trump recognizes this risk and has signaled he would probably intensify tariffs, export controls and sanctions on China's tech and manufacturing sectors that have already hindered the country's economy and its potential for innovation. He may also champion tighter screening of USA Investments in China's tech sector, a strategy that has bipartisan support and could impede China's development and deployment of advanced military capabilities.
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Mr. Xi is pinning China's economic hopes on an outdated, state-subsidized manufacturing-for-export model. But this strategy is highly vulnerable to USA Tariffs. Mr. Xi might appeal to Mr. Trump's deal-making instincts by offering selective concessions to blunt the impact of tariffs, but these are unlikely to sway Mr. Trump for long.
Mr. Xi has tools of his own that he can use, but nearly all of them are risky. He could shore up his economy by cutting interest rates, extending tax rebates or further subsidizing exporters. But these are short-term remedies that are likely to worsen long-term economic instability by inflating China's staggering debt, which is currently estimated to be nearly three times the size of the country's G. The. P. Striking back with his own tariffs could ignite a trade war that affects USA Consumers, but Mr. Trump has shown a readiness to absorb short-term political costs for strategic gain, and polls indicate that most Americans support his tariff threats.
Mr. Xi could retaliate by restricting USA Companies' access to Chinese markets, but that may further unsettle foreign investors already wary of China's economic trajectory. Curbing Chinese exports of minerals essential for high-tech manufacturing could also backfire by accelerating USA -led efforts to secure alternative sources. Devaluing the Chinese currency would make the country's exports cheaper, offsetting the impact of tariffs. But it is likely to accelerate capital flight and strain relations with other trade partners.
As a last resort, Mr. Xi could escalate tensions over Taiwan or in the South China Sea, but that risks galvanizing USA Alliances and inviting a stronger American military presence in the region.
To fully capitalize on China's current vulnerabilities and secure lasting American advantages, the next Trump administration must recognize the historic opportunity it faces. Today's international landscape echoes the latter stages of the Cold War, when President Ronald Reagan confronted a weakening Soviet Union and hastened its collapse by forcing Moscow to make costly resource allocation decisions that ultimately bankrupted it. This isn't to suggest America's goal with China should be regime change; rather, the United States should aim beyond mere coexistence. It should confidently wield the moral and economic strength of its democratic model until China's leaders and people recognize that their system is unsustainable and embrace a freer and less hostile path.
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But achieving lasting success will require more than pressuring China for pressure's sake. It will demand a wider peace-through-strength approach that combines American domestic renewal, enhanced military spending, entrepreneurial dynamism and, critically, the alliance network that Mr. Biden revitalized across Asia and Europe. The incoming administration needs to grasp that this is a crucial piece of the puzzle in confronting China and ensure that a renewed "America First" approach focuses on fair burden sharing among allies rather than excessive tariffs on allies or questioning American commitments to mutual defense arrangements. These would only undermine deterrence and create diplomatic rifts that China would be quick to exploit.
Mr. Trump's bold style isn't for the fainthearted. In a time of fierce global competition, he sees balance as weakness and coexistence as capitulation. Yet if he can draw from past lessons, engage with our allies and stay disciplined, he just might be crazy enough to confront China and win.Trump's trade war on China was a failure in every possible way
https://www.axios.com/2021/02/01/trump-trade-war-china-failure
China bought none of the extra $200 billion of US exports in Trump's Trade Deal
https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2022/china-bought-none-extra-200-billion-us-exports-trumps-trade-deal
More pain than gain: How the US-China trade war hurt America
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/more-pain-than-gain-how-the-us-china-trade-war-hurt-america/
Trumps Trade War Was a Loser.
Tariffs destroyed jobs in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and made all Americans worse off.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-trade-war-was-a-loser-employment-manufacturing-international-economy-tariffs-unemployment-9d8a7c7c
Trump Advisor Admits Trade War Against China Failed.
In an interview, former National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien admitted that "the Chinese didnt honor" the terms of the deal, years after it was clear.
https://reason.com/2024/06/19/trump-advisor-admits-trade-war-against-china-failed/
Trumps trade war was a total flop
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-trade-war-was-a-total-flop-224150586.html
MarquisdeSade1
12-16-24, 03:42
Ukrainians are fully right to defend their country and freedom, and when I love Russia, but hate Putin, I will always support Ukrainians versus criminal Putin. Same like if China attacked USA, they would eat You with their 1,4 billions, when You lost in Vietnam, Afghanistan versus rats, when they will start eating You for economics strength, when senile Trump will fuck You.But even for you this post is to much ROTFLMMFAO.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/prices-won-t-stop-falling-in-china-and-beijing-is-grasping-for-solutions/ar-AA1vQ2J2
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/14/opinion/china-trump-us-rivalry.html
Trump's Way Could Win the Contest With China Once and for All.
Nov. 14,2024.
An image shows the arms of then-president Donald Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping extended for a handshake against a backdrop representing the Chinese and American flags.
Credit. Damir Sagolj / Reuters.
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By Craig Singleton.
Mr. Singleton is a China analyst and senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies in Washington.
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Donald Trump's first term signaled a historic shift in USA Policy toward China. His strategic blend of economic pressure, unpredictability, sanctions and tariffs knocked Beijing off balance. It was a turning point: Washington moved from passive acceptance of China's revisionist ambitions to assertive opposition. The Biden administration has wisely maintained and in some cases expanded on this framework.
Mr. Trump's second term could help America to win this strategic contest altogether.
China faces an array of challenges, especially a stagnating economy, making it vulnerable to the president-elect's assertive tactics. If Mr. Trump can couple the blustery style of his first term with a more focused strategy and tighter discipline, the next four years are a golden opportunity to keep Beijing on the defensive and permanently transform the rivalry in America's favor.
For China, the ideal outcome in the USA Election would have been another four years of the Biden-Harris administration's cautious approach. Although President Biden maintained targeted pressure on Beijing, his emphasis on theétente and aversion to escalation would have afforded China's leader, Xi Jinping, the predictability he needs to address his domestic troubles and advance China's ambitions in critical areas such as technology, trade and the future of Taiwan.
But Mr. Trump isn't content with merely managing the competition with Beijing. He aims to win it. His zero-sum approach and unconventional tactics — as well as an emerging cabinet of China hawks — are likely to deny Mr. Xi the breathing room he desperately needs and push the Chinese leader into a high-stakes test of wills he cannot easily control or predict.
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Despite a decade of projecting outward strength, China is, in fact, a declining power, its rise having been undone by Mr. Xi's mismanagement, heavy-handed repression and strategic blunders. The country faces crippling debt, record-high youth unemployment and a shrinking, rapidly aging population. His ideology-driven approach, which places the Chinese Communist Party at the heart of economic decision making, has eroded business confidence, spurred capital flight and led to unprecedented drops in foreign investment. China's era of sky-high growth is giving way to a stagnation reminiscent of Japan's so-called lost decade, a period of deflation and economic inertia from which Japan has yet to fully recover. Even Mr. Xi cautioned citizens last year to be prepared to "eat bitterness," a Chinese phrase signaling hard times ahead.
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The USA Economy, meanwhile, is gaining momentum, and Mr. Trump — who views China's centrally planned, manufacturing-heavy model as predatory and harmful to American workers — seems ready to aggressively leverage USA Strength, as he did in his first term. He has proposed tariffs as high as 60 percent on Chinese imports, which, according to some estimates, could shave up to two percentage points off China's gross domestic product.
The bluster and brinkmanship of Mr. Trump's first term could also prove invaluable regarding Taiwan. Mr. Xi's goal is to bring the democratically ruled island under Chinese rule, by force if necessary. Mr. Trump, however, is threatening tariffs as high as 200 percent on Chinese goods if China takes military action. The president-elect summed up the situation best when he noted last month that Mr. Xi wouldn't dare provoke him over Taiwan because the Chinese leader knows that he's "crazy. ".
Chinese anxiety over Mr. Trump's return is already surfacing. During the Biden administration, Beijing often struck a defiant tone, accusing the United States of encirclement and containment. But after Mr. Trump's decisive election victory, Chinese leaders quickly struck a more conciliatory tone, calling for peaceful coexistence and a new era of cooperation.
But America must build on today's momentum, especially in the high-stakes contest with China over critical technologies such as semiconductors, artificial intelligence, autonomous vehicles and quantum computing — the engines of tomorrow's industrial revolution. Allowing China to seize the lead would dangerously tilt global power dynamics in its favor, undermining USA National security. Mr. Trump recognizes this risk and has signaled he would probably intensify tariffs, export controls and sanctions on China's tech and manufacturing sectors that have already hindered the country's economy and its potential for innovation. He may also champion tighter screening of USA Investments in China's tech sector, a strategy that has bipartisan support and could impede China's development and deployment of advanced military capabilities.
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Mr. Xi is pinning China's economic hopes on an outdated, state-subsidized manufacturing-for-export model. But this strategy is highly vulnerable to USA Tariffs. Mr. Xi might appeal to Mr. Trump's deal-making instincts by offering selective concessions to blunt the impact of tariffs, but these are unlikely to sway Mr. Trump for long.
Mr. Xi has tools of his own that he can use, but nearly all of them are risky. He could shore up his economy by cutting interest rates, extending tax rebates or further subsidizing exporters. But these are short-term remedies that are likely to worsen long-term economic instability by inflating China's staggering debt, which is currently estimated to be nearly three times the size of the country's G. The. P. Striking back with his own tariffs could ignite a trade war that affects USA Consumers, but Mr. Trump has shown a readiness to absorb short-term political costs for strategic gain, and polls indicate that most Americans support his tariff threats.
Mr. Xi could retaliate by restricting USA Companies' access to Chinese markets, but that may further unsettle foreign investors already wary of China's economic trajectory. Curbing Chinese exports of minerals essential for high-tech manufacturing could also backfire by accelerating USA -led efforts to secure alternative sources. Devaluing the Chinese currency would make the country's exports cheaper, offsetting the impact of tariffs. But it is likely to accelerate capital flight and strain relations with other trade partners.
As a last resort, Mr. Xi could escalate tensions over Taiwan or in the South China Sea, but that risks galvanizing USA Alliances and inviting a stronger American military presence in the region.
To fully capitalize on China's current vulnerabilities and secure lasting American advantages, the next Trump administration must recognize the historic opportunity it faces. Today's international landscape echoes the latter stages of the Cold War, when President Ronald Reagan confronted a weakening Soviet Union and hastened its collapse by forcing Moscow to make costly resource allocation decisions that ultimately bankrupted it. This isn't to suggest America's goal with China should be regime change; rather, the United States should aim beyond mere coexistence. It should confidently wield the moral and economic strength of its democratic model until China's leaders and people recognize that their system is unsustainable and embrace a freer and less hostile path.
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But achieving lasting success will require more than pressuring China for pressure's sake. It will demand a wider peace-through-strength approach that combines American domestic renewal, enhanced military spending, entrepreneurial dynamism and, critically, the alliance network that Mr. Biden revitalized across Asia and Europe. The incoming administration needs to grasp that this is a crucial piece of the puzzle in confronting China and ensure that a renewed "America First" approach focuses on fair burden sharing among allies rather than excessive tariffs on allies or questioning American commitments to mutual defense arrangements. These would only undermine deterrence and create diplomatic rifts that China would be quick to exploit.
Mr. Trump's bold style isn't for the fainthearted. In a time of fierce global competition, he sees balance as weakness and coexistence as capitulation. Yet if he can draw from past lessons, engage with our allies and stay disciplined, he just might be crazy enough to confront China — and win.
Mine were the only ones who actually produced historic economic recoveries and job gains.
Thank you.
Yours?
Margaret Thatcher:
Typical of the "conservative" Repub presidential results in the USA. Seems to the pattern of "conservative" economic philosophies and agendas worldwide and throughout history.
All of the others are a joke; fanciful, lazy academic theories that fail miserably in the Real World.In the Spirit of Christmas, I offered up the Ghost of Democrat Past (Jimmy Carter), Ghost of Democrat Present (Jared Bernstein who ramrodded Biden's economic program) and Ghost of Democrat Future (Stephanie Kelton, the "go to" economist for the Squad and other upcoming progressives.) Ebenezer Scrooge had no reason to freak out after visits from the ghosts of Christmas Past and Present. But he had an extreme change of outlook after he knew what was coming down the pike. And so should you dear Tooms. At such time as the new breed of Democrats come to control America for an extended period, there will be hell to pay. The Modern Monetary Theorists, like Stephanie Kelton, believe deficits and debt do not matter and the size of government should grow, grow, grow.
Using Zimbabwe as a model for monetary and fiscal policy is not wise.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/14/opinion/china-trump-us-rivalry.html
Trump's Way Could Win the Contest With China Once and for All.
Nov. 14,2024.
An image shows the arms of then-president Donald Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping extended for a handshake against a backdrop representing the Chinese and American flags.
Credit. Damir Sagolj / Reuters.
Share full article.
418.
By Craig Singleton.
Mr. Singleton is a China analyst and senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies in Washington.
Donald Trump's first term signaled a historic shift in USA Policy toward China. His strategic blend of economic pressure, unpredictability, sanctions and tariffs knocked Beijing off balance. It was a turning point: Washington moved from passive acceptance of China's revisionist ambitions to assertive opposition. The Biden administration has wisely maintained and in some cases expanded on this framework.
Mr. Trump's second term could help America to win this strategic contest altogether.
China faces an array of challenges, especially a stagnating economy, making it vulnerable to the president-elect's assertive tactics. If Mr. Trump can couple the blustery style of his first term with a more focused strategy and tighter discipline, the next four years are a golden opportunity to keep Beijing on the defensive and permanently transform the rivalry in America's favor.
For China, the ideal outcome in the USA Election would have been another four years of the Biden-Harris administration's cautious approach. Although President Biden maintained targeted pressure on Beijing, his emphasis on thetente and aversion to escalation would have afforded China's leader, Xi Jinping, the predictability he needs to address his domestic troubles and advance China's ambitions in critical areas such as technology, trade and the future of Taiwan.
But Mr. Trump isn't content with merely managing the competition with Beijing. He aims to win it. His zero-sum approach and unconventional tactics as well as an emerging cabinet of China hawks are likely to deny Mr. Xi the breathing room he desperately needs and push the Chinese leader into a high-stakes test of wills he cannot easily control or predict.
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Despite a decade of projecting outward strength, China is, in fact, a declining power, its rise having been undone by Mr. Xi's mismanagement, heavy-handed repression and strategic blunders. The country faces crippling debt, record-high youth unemployment and a shrinking, rapidly aging population. His ideology-driven approach, which places the Chinese Communist Party at the heart of economic decision making, has eroded business confidence, spurred capital flight and led to unprecedented drops in foreign investment. China's era of sky-high growth is giving way to a stagnation reminiscent of Japan's so-called lost decade, a period of deflation and economic inertia from which Japan has yet to fully recover. Even Mr. Xi cautioned citizens last year to be prepared to "eat bitterness," a Chinese phrase signaling hard times ahead.
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The USA Economy, meanwhile, is gaining momentum, and Mr. Trump who views China's centrally planned, manufacturing-heavy model as predatory and harmful to American workers seems ready to aggressively leverage USA Strength, as he did in his first term. He has proposed tariffs as high as 60 percent on Chinese imports, which, according to some estimates, could shave up to two percentage points off China's gross domestic product.
The bluster and brinkmanship of Mr. Trump's first term could also prove invaluable regarding Taiwan. Mr. Xi's goal is to bring the democratically ruled island under Chinese rule, by force if necessary. Mr. Trump, however, is threatening tariffs as high as 200 percent on Chinese goods if China takes military action. The president-elect summed up the situation best when he noted last month that Mr. Xi wouldn't dare provoke him over Taiwan because the Chinese leader knows that he's "crazy. ".
Chinese anxiety over Mr. Trump's return is already surfacing. During the Biden administration, Beijing often struck a defiant tone, accusing the United States of encirclement and containment. But after Mr. Trump's decisive election victory, Chinese leaders quickly struck a more conciliatory tone, calling for peaceful coexistence and a new era of cooperation.
But America must build on today's momentum, especially in the high-stakes contest with China over critical technologies such as semiconductors, artificial intelligence, autonomous vehicles and quantum computing the engines of tomorrow's industrial revolution. Allowing China to seize the lead would dangerously tilt global power dynamics in its favor, undermining USA National security. Mr. Trump recognizes this risk and has signaled he would probably intensify tariffs, export controls and sanctions on China's tech and manufacturing sectors that have already hindered the country's economy and its potential for innovation. He may also champion tighter screening of USA Investments in China's tech sector, a strategy that has bipartisan support and could impede China's development and deployment of advanced military capabilities.
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Mr. Xi is pinning China's economic hopes on an outdated, state-subsidized manufacturing-for-export model. But this strategy is highly vulnerable to USA Tariffs. Mr. Xi might appeal to Mr. Trump's deal-making instincts by offering selective concessions to blunt the impact of tariffs, but these are unlikely to sway Mr. Trump for long.
Mr. Xi has tools of his own that he can use, but nearly all of them are risky. He could shore up his economy by cutting interest rates, extending tax rebates or further subsidizing exporters. But these are short-term remedies that are likely to worsen long-term economic instability by inflating China's staggering debt, which is currently estimated to be nearly three times the size of the country's G. The. P. Striking back with his own tariffs could ignite a trade war that affects USA Consumers, but Mr. Trump has shown a readiness to absorb short-term political costs for strategic gain, and polls indicate that most Americans support his tariff threats.
Mr. Xi could retaliate by restricting USA Companies' access to Chinese markets, but that may further unsettle foreign investors already wary of China's economic trajectory. Curbing Chinese exports of minerals essential for high-tech manufacturing could also backfire by accelerating USA -led efforts to secure alternative sources. Devaluing the Chinese currency would make the country's exports cheaper, offsetting the impact of tariffs. But it is likely to accelerate capital flight and strain relations with other trade partners.
As a last resort, Mr. Xi could escalate tensions over Taiwan or in the South China Sea, but that risks galvanizing USA Alliances and inviting a stronger American military presence in the region.
To fully capitalize on China's current vulnerabilities and secure lasting American advantages, the next Trump administration must recognize the historic opportunity it faces. Today's international landscape echoes the latter stages of the Cold War, when President Ronald Reagan confronted a weakening Soviet Union and hastened its collapse by forcing Moscow to make costly resource allocation decisions that ultimately bankrupted it. This isn't to suggest America's goal with China should be regime change; rather, the United States should aim beyond mere coexistence. It should confidently wield the moral and economic strength of its democratic model until China's leaders and people recognize that their system is unsustainable and embrace a freer and less hostile path.
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But achieving lasting success will require more than pressuring China for pressure's sake. It will demand a wider peace-through-strength approach that combines American domestic renewal, enhanced military spending, entrepreneurial dynamism and, critically, the alliance network that Mr. Biden revitalized across Asia and Europe. The incoming administration needs to grasp that this is a crucial piece of the puzzle in confronting China and ensure that a renewed "America First" approach focuses on fair burden sharing among allies rather than excessive tariffs on allies or questioning American commitments to mutual defense arrangements. These would only undermine deterrence and create diplomatic rifts that China would be quick to exploit.
Mr. Trump's bold style isn't for the fainthearted. In a time of fierce global competition, he sees balance as weakness and coexistence as capitulation. Yet if he can draw from past lessons, engage with our allies and stay disciplined, he just might be crazy enough to confront China and win.The Chinese sent us clothes and cheap electronic items. And we sent them dollars which they invested in Treasury securities. Securities that became worth less because of high inflation, and negative real interest rates, during the Biden administration. It was a great deal! We got real stuff and they got paper! Now partly as a result of tariffs, the manufacture of clothes and cheap electronics is moving onto places like Bangladesh and Vietnam, and the Chinese are becoming higher value added manufacturers.
Meanwhile, as to products that really matter, like rare earth metals, neither Trump nor Biden did jack to try to make the USA more self sufficient. China still has us over a barrel.
BTW, other than tariffs and running up the national debt, I agree more with Trump on economic policy than you do.
....Same like if China attacked USA, they would eat You with their 1,4 billions, when You lost in Vietnam, Afghanistan versus rats, when they will start eating You for economics strength, when senile Trump will fuck You.Yeah, right. How many times has the USA bailed out France? World War I, World War II, and the Indochina War come to mind. If not for the USA, France would have been eaten multiple times. Actually I guess Hitler and Germany did swallow France. However, the United States forced him to throw you up and spit you out. And afterwards the USA paid toward rebuilding your country with the Marshall Plan.
Please note you lost in Vietnam too. As well as Algeria, Rwanda, Mali, Chad, the Central African Republic, Niger, and others.
MarquisdeSade1
12-16-24, 05:02
The Chinese sent us clothes and cheap electronic items. And we sent them dollars which they invested in Treasury securities. Securities that became worth less because of high inflation, and negative real interest rates, during the Biden administration. It was a great deal! We got real stuff and they got paper! Now partly as a result of tariffs, the manufacture of clothes and cheap electronics is moving onto places like Bangladesh and Vietnam, and the Chinese are becoming higher value added manufacturers.
Meanwhile, as to products that really matter, like rare earth metals, neither Trump nor Biden did jack to try to make the USA more self sufficient. China still has us over a barrel.
BTW, other than tariffs and running up the national debt, I agree more with Trump on economic policy than you do."And we sent them dollars which they invested in Treasury securities".
So what about the nukes they have pointed at the west coast where did they get the money for them?
https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2024/10/24/china-leading-rapid-expansion-of-nuclear-arsenal-pentagon-says/
BTW, other than tariffs and running up the national debt, I agree more with Trump on economic policy than you do.
Seriously? But you still voted for this thing with the loaded GUN? I really hope you're ashamed of yourself.
The Chinese sent us clothes and cheap electronic items. And we sent them dollars which they invested in Treasury securities. Securities that became worth less because of high inflation, and negative real interest rates, during the Biden administration. It was a great deal! We got real stuff and they got paper! Now partly as a result of tariffs, the manufacture of clothes and cheap electronics is moving onto places like Bangladesh and Vietnam, and the Chinese are becoming higher value added manufacturers.
Meanwhile, as to products that really matter, like rare earth metals, neither Trump nor Biden did jack to try to make the USA more self sufficient. China still has us over a barrel.
BTW, other than tariffs and running up the national debt, I agree more with Trump on economic policy than you do.Now, what are we to learn from that little Trump's Failed Trade War With China story you have spun there?
That Trump's crap 2018 and 2019 negotiations led him to give China something real and valuable in exchange for junk but then he "brilliantly" ushered in and exacerbated Trump's Pandemic with all of the Millions of Deaths, Massive Jobs Destruction, Global Supply-Chain Collapse and, most importantly, Global Inflation that followed and did all of that just so China would ultimately be stuck with as much junk as China dumped in Trump's lap?
Or is it that Biden was the "brilliant" one in producing the best, fastest and most effective Recovery from Trump's Pandemic, which unavoidably produces some transitional Inflation, pulled America First but also the rest of the World out of Trump's Economic Disaster, averted a Domestic AND Global Depression / Recession and, oh as a bonus, contributed to converting the highly valuable loot they snatched right from under blithering numbskull Trump's nose into junk?
Either one provides a fascinating moral of the story you have spun there. Or is it some combination of the two?
Yeah, right. How many times has the USA bailed out France? World War I, World War II, and the Indochina War come to mind. If not for the USA, France would have been eaten multiple times. Actually I guess Hitler and Germany did swallow France. However, the United States forced him to throw you up and spit you out. And afterwards the USA paid toward rebuilding your country with the Marshall Plan.
Please note you lost in Vietnam too. As well as Algeria, Rwanda, Mali, Chad, the Central African Republic, Niger, and others.USA make business with wars. Even when they lose, killing many of their young, but they make good money. Wars are part of USA business, when nothing is for free. Only economics war versus China could make falling USA business, when so easy to control, just matter of education. When I know Chinese products like their electric cars are cheaper, but I don t buy shit, I refuse chinese made phones proposed by my operator. Just matter of brain. I m not afraid of China, because they are not on my standard for quality and USA are also not, I would worry to take a Boeing and won t buy a Tesla. I prefer to buy European product, even more expensive, but higher quality and for sure, bullshiting Trump won t improve quality, when only making fog, he would play good Indian.
In the Spirit of Christmas, I offered up the Ghost of Democrat Past (Jimmy Carter), Ghost of Democrat Present (Jared Bernstein who ramrodded Biden's economic program) and Ghost of Democrat Future (Stephanie Kelton, the "go to" economist for the Squad and other upcoming progressives.) Ebenezer Scrooge had no reason to freak out after visits from the ghosts of Christmas Past and Present. But he had an extreme change of outlook after he knew what was coming down the pike. And so should you dear Tooms. At such time as the new breed of Democrats come to control America for an extended period, there will be hell to pay. The Modern Monetary Theorists, like Stephanie Kelton, believe deficits and debt do not matter and the size of government should grow, grow, grow.
Using Zimbabwe as a model for monetary and fiscal policy is not wise.Is this scary GOP foretelling of Certain Dem Christmas Future Economic Doom anything like their foretelling of Certain Economic Doom if FDR enacted The New Deal, if JFK / LBJ cut middle and lower income tax rates disprortionately greater than the top income margin rate, if Carter required employers to offer the same 401 K deferred tax investment deal to the rank and file employees as those in the Executive Offices, if Bill Clinton passed the 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act and raised the top marginal tax rate 2-3 percentage points, if Barack Obama passed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act and The Affordable Care Act, if Joe Biden passed the American Rescue Plan Act and The Inflation Reduction Act?
Or will it be as truly historically scary and horrific as the Great Repub Hoover Depression, the three Recessions and Historically Bad Jobs Creation Record under Repub Eisenhower, another way below average jobs creation record along with gas lines and inflation under Nixon / Ford, the Great Recession and 10 whopping months of 10% plus Unemployment Rates across his 3rd and 4th year in office while tripling the National Debt under Reagan, the next historically low jobs creation under GHW Bush, the 1st Recession and 2nd Great Recession and Massive Job losses under GW Bush and the Trillions deficit-adding Economic "stimulus" Legislation producing a million fewer jobs with it than without it, the failed Trade War and Tariffs that required him to issue emergency welfare checks to our agriculture and manufacturing industry just to keep them afloat along with the worst economic and national security decisions of all time leading directly to ushering in and exacerbating Trump's Pandemic and the 1 million American deaths, so far, the millions upon millions of jobs wiped out, the global supply-chain collapse, the hyper-inflation and opportunistic corporate price gouging under Donald Trump?
Because if it is anything like ALL of the former combined, I know I can go right back to sleep on Christmas Eve without a worry in the world.
But if it is anything like any ONE of the latter than that is a truly scary foretelling indeed and I might just stay up all night worrying about it.
WestsideGuy89
12-16-24, 12:58
83 mil in gold. They can afford it. That gold just strengthened their dollar. Hes going to be different this time. Hes taking it serious and different. You can see it.
Are you drunk or just imitating Spidy and ET now I'm drunk! BAHAHAHAHAHA!
Is this scary GOP foretelling of Certain Dem Christmas Future Economic Doom anything like their foretelling of Certain Economic Doom if FDR enacted The New Deal, if JFK / LBJ cut middle and lower income tax rates disprortionately greater than the top income margin rate, if Carter required employers to offer the same 401 K deferred tax investment deal to the rank and file employees as those in the Executive Offices, if Bill Clinton passed the 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act and raised the top marginal tax rate 2-3 percentage points, if Barack Obama passed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act and The Affordable Care Act, if Joe Biden passed the American Rescue Plan Act and The Inflation Reduction Act?
Or will it be as truly historically scary and horrific as the Great Repub Hoover Depression, the three Recessions and Historically Bad Jobs Creation Record under Repub Eisenhower, another way below average jobs creation record along with gas lines and inflation under Nixon / Ford, the Great Recession and 10 whopping months of 10% plus Unemployment Rates across his 3rd and 4th year in office while tripling the National Debt under Reagan, the next historically low jobs creation under GHW Bush, the 1st Recession and 2nd Great Recession and Massive Job losses under GW Bush and the Trillions deficit-adding Economic "stimulus" Legislation producing a million fewer jobs with it than without it, the failed Trade War and Tariffs that required him to issue emergency welfare checks to our agriculture and manufacturing industry just to keep them afloat along with the worst economic and national security decisions of all time leading directly to ushering in and exacerbating Trump's Pandemic and the 1 million American deaths, so far, the millions upon millions of jobs wiped out, the global supply-chain collapse, the hyper-inflation and opportunistic corporate price gouging under Donald Trump?
Because if it is anything like ALL of the former combined, I know I can go right back to sleep on Christmas Eve without a worry in the world.
But if it is anything like any ONE of the latter than that is a truly scary foretelling indeed and I might just stay up all night worrying about it.Bill Clinton, in his second term, did a pretty good job, thanks in no small part to Republicans who controlled Congress during that period. I'd go so far as to say he's the last really good president we've had.
As to Jimmy Carter's and Joe Biden's stewardship of economic policy, a majority of Americans agree with me. It sucked.
Bill Clinton, in his second term, did a pretty good job, thanks in no small part to Republicans who controlled Congress during that period. That would be Newt Gingrich's Congress that threw every wrench, drill and screwdriver in the gears to obstruct and sabotage, and when they failed, claimed it was the Republican governors who lifted the economy despite Clinton's efforts.
Sheesh!
Even when you're right, you're only half-right and that's being generous.
Bill Clinton, in his second term, did a pretty good job, thanks in no small part to Republicans who controlled Congress during that period. I'd go so far as to say he's the last really good president we've had.
As to Jimmy Carter's and Joe Biden's stewardship of economic policy, a majority of Americans agree with me. It sucked.So was this fine and detailed understanding of the national economy by the American electorate why Nude Grinbitch went on to become a revered longterm Speaker of the House, so popular and appreciated for his "no small part" in triggering the unprecedented economic success and growth in America that, miraculously, firmly began several months BEFORE he and his Party's took majority control of the House that, after he had geen booted from office and had plenty of free time on his hands, they urged his Party to make him their nominee for President of the United States?
I mean, what with their clear understanding and appreciation that Carter's far and away better average annual jobs creation record (although even at that not as great as Biden's) vs the Repubs before and after him "sucked", they must have been running to the polls in the primaries to choose Nude Grinbitch as the Repub nominee soon after Bill Clinton's presidency in order to thank him for shutting down the government multiple times and lose the legislative battle against Clinton every time in his vain attempt to crash and reverse the historic economic growth that began under Clinton, his Dem House and Dem Senate in 1994, in a stark recovery from what came before.
Oh, and without a single Repub vote for the 1993 legislation that triggered it. And, again, at which point the American electorate demonstrated their clear and fine understanding of the national economy that they rewarded the Dems for that by replacing the Dem House and Senate Majority with a Repub Majority in November 1994.
You honestly think the current USA economy "sucks"? Lolol. Compared to what, where and when? You realize that flies in the face of every credible economic publication assessment at home and abroad as well as all available data and evidence, right?
Or, like the American electorate under Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Biden, et al, are you just aping what the typically pro Repub Mainstream Media spins into your mind about it regardless what the data and all available evidence shows? When was the last time you couldn't afford to buy a Bird Flu-inflation priced egg?
MarquisdeSade1
12-16-24, 23:56
Bill Clinton, in his second term, did a pretty good job, thanks in no small part to Republicans who controlled Congress during that period. I'd go so far as to say he's the last really good president we've had.
As to Jimmy Carter's and Joe Biden's stewardship of economic policy, a majority of Americans agree with me. It sucked.No guessing necessary you loved Scumbag Bubba doing NAFTA putting the CCP into the WTO and repealing Glass Steagal.
https://selectcommitteeontheccp.house.gov/media/press-releases/moolenaar-introduces-legislation-revoke-chinas-permanent-normal-trade
https://asiatimes.com/2024/11/china-calculates-impact-of-losing-most-favored-nation-status/
Moolenaar said that when China prepared to enter the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 2000, the US Congress voted to extend PNTR status to China, hoping that the Chinese would liberalize and adopt fair trading practices, but "this gamble failed. ".
"Having PNTR with China has failed our country, eroded our manufacturing base and sent jobs to our foremost adversary. At the same time, the CCP has taken advantage of our markets and betrayed the hopes of freedom and fair competition that were expected when its authoritarian regime was granted PNTR more than 20 years ago," he said.
Republican Senators Marco Rubio, Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley on September 26 introduced The Neither Permanent Nor Normal Trade Relations Act to end PNTR with China. On November 13, Rubio was nominated by Trump to be the next US secretary of state. Rubio is likely to gain Senate confirmation and begin his term after Trump's January 20,2025, inauguration.
"Giving Communist China the same trade benefits that we give to our greatest allies was one of the most catastrophic decisions that our country has ever made," Rubio said in a press release in September. "Our country's trade deficit with China more than quadrupled, and we exported millions of American jobs. Ending normal trade relations with China is a no-brainer. ".
https://prosperousamerica.org/cpa-guest-opinion-we-must-revoke-chinas-most-favored-nation-status/
MarquisdeSade1
12-17-24, 01:56
Now, what are we to learn from that little Trump's Failed Trade War With China story you have spun there?
That Trump's crap 2018 and 2019 negotiations led him to give China something real and valuable in exchange for junk but then he "brilliantly" ushered in and exacerbated Trump's Pandemic with all of the Millions of Deaths, Massive Jobs Destruction, Global Supply-Chain Collapse and, most importantly, Global Inflation that followed and did all of that just so China would ultimately be stuck with as much junk as China dumped in Trump's lap?
Or is it that Biden was the "brilliant" one in producing the best, fastest and most effective Recovery from Trump's Pandemic, which unavoidably produces some transitional Inflation, pulled America First but also the rest of the World out of Trump's Economic Disaster, averted a Domestic AND Global Depression / Recession and, oh as a bonus, contributed to converting the highly valuable loot they snatched right from under blithering numbskull Trump's nose into junk?
Either one provides a fascinating moral of the story you have spun there. Or is it some combination of the two?He may even have less integrity and credibility than you and Spidy.
He really needs a new moniker, may I generously propose Morbidly Obese Bob?
MarquisdeSade1
12-17-24, 02:37
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/20/us/trump-womens-march-protests-activism.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/16/opinion/trump-tech-leaders-support.html
The Great Capitulation.
Dec. 16,2024, 7:00 pm ET.
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At a press conference at Mar-a-Lago on Monday, Donald Trump described recent visits from Tim Cook, see. E. O. Of Apple, Sergey Brin, a co-founder of Google, and other tech barons. "In the first term, everyone was fighting me," he said. "In this term, everyone wants to be my friend. " For once, he wasn't exaggerating.
Since Trump won re-election — this time with the popular vote — many of the most influential people in America seem to have lost any will to stand up to him as he goes about transforming America into the sort of authoritarian oligarchy he admires. Call it the Great Capitulation.
Following Jan. 6, Mark Zuckerberg, the Facebook co-founder, suspended Trump's account. But last month at Mar-a-Lago, The Wall Street Journal reported, Zuckerberg stood, hand on heart, as "the club played a rendition of the national anthem sung by imprisoned" Jan. 6 defendants. (It's not clear if Zuckerberg knew what he was listening to.) he's pledged a million-dollar donation to Trump's inauguration, as did the OpenAI see. E. O. Sam Altman and Jeff Bezos' company Amazon, which will also stream the inauguration on its video platform.
After Time magazine declared Trump "Person of the Year," the publication's owner, the Salesforce see. E. O. Marc Benioff, wrote on X, "This marks a time of great promise for our nation. " The owner of The L. A. Times, the billionaire pharmaceutical and biomedical entrepreneur Patrick Soon-Shiong, killed an editorial criticizing Trump's cabinet picks and urging the Senate not to allow recess appointments.
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Most shocking of all, last week ABC News, which is owned by the Walt Disney Company, made the craven decision to settle a flimsy defamation case brought by Trump.
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As you may remember, a jury last year found Trump civilly liable for sexually abusing the writer E. Jean Carroll. In a memorandum, the judge in the case explained that while a jury didn't find that Trump had raped Carroll, it was operating under New York criminal law, which defines rape solely as "vaginal penetration by a penis. " It did find that he'the forcibly penetrated her with his fingers.
"The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was 'raped' within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump 'raped' her as many people commonly understand the word 'rape, wrote the judge. "Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that. ".
The ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos appeared to be using this broader definition when, in March, he said on-air that a jury had found Trump "liable for rape. " Trump, who regularly threatens, and sometimes files, defamation cases against his perceived enemies in the press, sued. And though his case seemed absurdly weak, ABC News decided to settle in exchange for a $15 million donation to Trump's future presidential library or museum, $1 million in legal fees and a public statement of regret from Stephanopoulos and the network.
Displays of submission aren't limited to tech and media. Christopher Wray, the head of the F. Be. I. , agreed to step aside before the end of his 10-year term rather than make Trump fire him. Several Democrats have signaled their willingness to work with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, whose so-called Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, seems poised to hack away at our already threadbare safety net.
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In The New Yorker, Jonathan Blitzer wrote of the current administration's refusal, at least so far, to renew the humanitarian parole of immigrants from countries such as Venezuela and Haiti to possibly shield them from deportation under Trump. "For a president who considers Trump a fascist and has warned about the horrors of mass deportation, the atmosphere of Biden's White House has struck several people I spoke with as curiously sedate," Blitzer wrote.
Different people have different reasons for falling in line. Some may simply lack the stomach for a fight or feel, not unreasonably, that it's futile. Our tech overlords, however liberal they once appeared, seem to welcome the new order. Many hated wokeness, resented the demands of newly uppity employees and chafed at attempts by Joe Biden's administration to regulate crypto and A. I. , two industries with the potential to cause deep and lasting social harm. There are see. E. O. S who got where they are by riding the zeitgeist; they can pivot easily from mouthing platitudes about racial equity to slapping on a red MAGA hat.
Some Democrats appear to think that they might steer DOGE in a productive direction and that, regardless, they'll get credit for bipartisanship. The electorate, after all, has rendered its verdict on #Resistance.
One of Kamala Harris's pollsters, Politico reported, recently warned the Democratic National Committee leadership against pearl-clutching over Trump's transgressions, including the wildly unfit characters he's announced for his administration. The voters, she said, "don't care about who he's putting in cabinet positions. ".
Collectively, all these elite decisions to bow to Trump make it feel like the air is going out of the old liberal order. In its place will be something more ruthless and Nietzschean.
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"The individual has the intrinsic moral right to live his life in a special and fulfilling way without subordinating to the universal collective," Marc Andreessen, the software engineer and venture capitalist at the forefront of Silicon Valley's rightward lurch, wrote on X last week. "Purveyors of abstract guilt must not steal that from you. " Even powerful people who didn't vote in favor of this harsh new world can find their consolations in it.
So let me get this right! Repubs/MAGA had been told Americas, were suffering from high inflation, high food prices and no money for beacon, but somehow, now they have money for $200 Trump Perfume? (...kkkk!).
Who'd pay $99 to smell like Donald Trump? Eau d'Insurrection
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-fragrance-perfume-victory47-b2498669.html
Yes, yes, I know, all of you MAGAs and, frankly, many others out there are puzzled and wondering "WTF!? There was an 8 day losing stretch in the Dow under economic lord and savior Donald Trump years BEFORE he crashed er I mean rescued his China Trade War and the Global Economy with Trump's Pandemic in 2020? Even during is "best economy ever" years"?
Yep. In fact, and I hope the diligent stock market-watchers among you MAGAs as is Trump himself are sitting down for this. But not only did Trump log at least one remarkable 8-Day losing stretch in the Dow during 2018, one of those "best economy ever" years before "the China virus and the pandemic came out of the blue, nobody thought something like that could happen", but there was actually a Bear Market Decline in the broad USA Stock Market that very same year!
I know, I know, that contradicts what Mainstream Media has led or allowed so many of the American people to believe. Those who today have such a clear and detailed understanding of the national economy that they are certain today's stock market is at an all-time low, the unemployment rate is at an all-time high, that 107% of the new jobs created under Biden went to illegal aliens, that nobody can buy anything, nobody can eat anything, nobody can do anything, nobody can travel anywhere, that we are currently IN a Recession and that this economy "sucks" by any measure compared to other economies around the world and vs all previous USA economies.
But it turns out that even though 2018 was one of Trump's self-described and claimed "best economy ever" years before "the China virus" totally surprised everyone and developed into a raging Pandemic without any Pandemic Prevention Team Leadership in those Chinese labs to give us a heads-up about it just "2 months sooner" so we could have avoided all the problems as there had been before Trump defunded and removed them several months earlier, there was a Bear Market greater than 20% decline in the total usa stock market.
And it happened at a time when Trump's failed Trade War with China and Tariffs were very much in the system and failing so badly to accomplish what Trump claimed they would do that he had to issue emergency welfare checks to the industries most damaged by them just to keep them afloat.
And now we already have this swirling around in today's USA Stock. Market:
Stock futures inch lower after Dow notches longest losing streak since 2018
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/16/stock-market-today-live-updates.html?__source=androidappshare
"If you are going to worry about something, it is that the tariffs are not just talk but truisms, and that we will actually be putting up barriers to trade", Stovall said. "If that is an actuality, I think that could be a very big problem."
...no money for beaconSorry, meant to read 'bacon'.
Yes, for those with a severe memory loss.
That would be Newt Gingrich's Congress that threw every wrench, drill and screwdriver in the gears to obstruct and sabotage, and when they failed, claimed it was the Republican governors who lifted the economy despite Clinton's efforts.
Sheesh!
Even when you're right, you're only half-right and that's being generous.Of course, it isn't a "memory loss". Wingers actively engage in revisionist history in order to promote more Repub-style economic agenda and, therefore by definition, more crap economic results.
I watched Trump's make-believe "press conference" yesterday where he never answered a question with anything but a blithering, near incoherent bullshit story leading inevitably to the usual Yes AND No response which he can then later claim he answered EITHER way. And at one point he totally revised history by claiming "We had the greatest economy ever before The China Virus came out of nowhere", "We had NO WARS when I was president", "We were paid $600 Billion from China from my trade war tariffs", blah blah blah and not one person in that room nor anyone on the cable news network followed up by pointing out everything he said in that event was a blatant, easily debunked revisionist history lie.
Which is no surprise since that is what Trump has been allowed to get away with for the past 9 years in Mainstream Media, especially leading up to an election.
Tooms and Xpartan, You will never achieve true enlightenment until you learn to love Republicans. And Marquis, you must learn to love the Chinese. And the moderate Democrats. For until that happens you will live in ignorance and hatred. Learn how to love, and you shall see the Light. And the darkness shall be lifted from your hearts.
There is no need however to admonish you, Marquis, to love the Progressive Democrats, for you are one.
Buddha Tiny
This MAGA Repub loon is challenging MAGA Repub loon Marjorie Taylor Greene for the Crown as Queen of the MAGA Repub Loons in ChristoFascist Mike's now even THINNER razor-thin majority to go along with Trump's handful of angry Netanyahu-hating but already regretful Muslims across the only three states that mattered "mandate" squeaker.
Republican House Majority in Peril
https://www.newsweek.com/republican-house-majority-victoria-spartz-2002016
The Republican wafer-thin majority in the House of Representatives is facing growing uncertainty as GOP members of Congress line up for Donald Trump's Cabinet.
Representative Victoria Spartz, an Indiana Republican, announced on Monday that she would no longer "sit on committees or participate in the Republican caucus" so she could dedicate more time to the newly created Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), headed by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy.
"I will stay as a registered Republican but will not sit on committees or participate in the caucus until I see that Republican leadership in Congress is governing. I do not need to be involved in circuses. I would rather spend more of my time helping @DOGE and @RepThomasMassie to save our Republic, as was mandated by the American people," she said in a post on X.
In another post, Spartz added, "@realDonaldTrump, @elonmusk and @VivekGRamaswamy are our only hope to drain the swamp through reconciliation, and we can come up with more than $2T to fully offset tax cuts. The swamp is very deep, @DOGE!"And she won't be the only one in that less than Pink Tinkle Repub House to pull this kind of stunt.
Bear in mind, NO Repub wants to actually government, legislate, solve any problems, know anything, do anything or earn their government paycheck.
With Deadbeat To The Core Nude Grinbitch being the honored historic template for being a total Repub deadbeat with no expertise or interest in accomplishing anything except shutting down the government so they can do even LESS than nothing for their pay, especially if doing that one idiotic thing will serve to thwart and fuck up any positive jobs creation and economic expansion and gains trajectories put in place by Dems, there are bound to be more Attention Hoo'are Deadbeat Repub Loons waiting in the wings for their moment in the spotlight, demanding to be handed a Participation Trophy for Doing Nothing so remarkably well.
As King of the Know Nothing, Do Nothing, Deadbeat MAGA Repub Loons, Donald J. Trump, knows better than anyone, of course.
MarquisdeSade1
12-17-24, 20:00
Tooms and Xpartan, You will never achieve true enlightenment until you learn to love Republicans. And Marquis, you must learn to love the Chinese. And the moderate Democrats. For until that happens you will live in ignorance and hatred. Learn how to love, and you shall see the Light. And the darkness shall be lifted from your hearts.
There is no need however to admonish you, Marquis, to love the Progressive Democrats, for you are one.
Buddha TinyThey are thee most vile creatures known to humanity, watch the movie "Thank You for Smoking".
Call me a progressive Democrat? Everyone has redeeming qualities except Libertarians.
You are an iteration of Hiroo Onoda he refused to deny the war was over for many years.
You on the other hand refuse to deny we are already at war with the CCP, be it Cold for the moment.
You should be tried for Treason for giving and and comfort to the enemy!!
You honestly think the current USA economy "sucks"? Lolol. Compared to what, where and when? You realize that flies in the face of every credible economic publication assessment at home and abroad as well as all available data and evidence, right?
Or, like the American electorate under Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Biden, et al, are you just aping what the typically pro Repub Mainstream Media spins into your mind about it regardless what the data and all available evidence shows? When was the last time you couldn't afford to buy a Bird Flu-inflation priced egg?That's not what I wrote. I said a majority of Americans and I think Biden's economic policy sucked.
An NBER paper earlier this year written by economists at the IMF and Democrat Larry Summers explains why. You can download the paper here.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w32163
Or read a summary here.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2024/03/23/summers-inflation-reached-18-in-2022-using-the-governments-previous-formula/#text=argue%2 C%20%E2%80%9 Cwill%20 understate%20 the%20 pressure, November%202022%2 C%20 and%20 remains%20 elevated.
If you look at the official numbers, the median American wage earner saw prices increase about 1/2 of 1% more than wages during the Biden administration. Compare to the Trump administration, when wages rose by almost 7% more than prices. Those are wages before tax. After income tax, median real wages were up more than 7%, because of the Trump tax cuts for the middle class.
But the official numbers don't take into account the increase in interest payments borne by Americans, manifested in higher house, car and credit card payments and the like. The consumer price index, the way it was calculated prior to 1983, did take that into account. What Summers and the rest did in the NBER study was go back and calculate CPI using the pre-1983 method. And then they compared it to consumer sentiment.
Using the old methodology, which includes interest expense borne by consumers, inflation peaked at 18% in November, 2022! And if you look at consumer sentiment, which can serve as a proxy for how much Americans believed Biden's economic policy sucks, it tracks the Summers et al CPI a lot better than the current CPI.
In other words, the workingman is way behind the eight ball. And that's the reason Biden got poor numbers for economic policy in surveys.
Now undoubtedly you're not going to accept that. We had a similar discussion about why Americans thought the economy sucked under Carter because of high inflation, and, reading between the lines, you attributed it to mass psychosis.
Why do I (as opposed to the majority of Americans) think his economic policy sucked? We've been through that a million times. Since Biden took office, the economy has done well (no recession), we've been at peace, and we were over the worst of the pandemic. Yet his policies, as implemented with the help of a Democratic controlled Congress in 2021 and 2022, have put us on track to rack up fiscal deficits around 6% per year as far as the eye can see! That's not sustainable. It's a recipe for disaster.
Far from buying votes as expected, the Democrats' profligate spending ignited inflation and caused them to loose the election. However, yes, if you're part of the welfare class, or received benefits from the massive amounts of corporate pork spread far and wide by the Biden administration, then you probably think the economy is / was hunky dory.
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12-17-24, 21:15
Tooms and Xpartan, You will never achieve true enlightenment until you learn to love Republicans. And Marquis, you must learn to love the Chinese. And the moderate Democrats. For until that happens you will live in ignorance and hatred. Learn how to love, and you shall see the Light. And the darkness shall be lifted from your hearts.
There is no need however to admonish you, Marquis, to love the Progressive Democrats, for you are one.
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Ocean over 4,000 miles away.
On Jan. 20, Donald Trump will regain.
Control of these weapons.
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Volatile time in history.
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By The Editorial Board.
The editorial board is a group of opinion journalists whose views are informed by expertise, research, debate and certain longstanding values. It is separate from the newsroom.
In the United States, only the president can decide whether to use nuclear weapons. It's an extraordinary instance in which Mr. Trump's decision-making power will be absolute. He will not need to consult Congress, the courts or senior advisers on when or how to use them. He will have a free hand to craft our nation's nuclear posture, policy and diplomacy.
On the campaign trail, Mr. Trump commented on the peril posed by the rest of the world's growing nuclear arsenals. His return to the White House offers new opportunities for him to steer America clear of those threats. His administration will need to act urgently and with creativity, all while also demonstrating the understanding that nuclear weapons are too dangerous to be brandished as a cudgel.
This article is part of the Opinion series At the Brink.
About the threat of nuclear weapons in an unstable world. Read the opening story here.
The leaders of China, Russia and the United States are in the midst of a new great-power competition, a global struggle for military, economic and geopolitical dominance. But not all aspects of this contest are zero-sum, especially in nuclear weapons matters. There are ample opportunities for all sides to improve their own national security conditions by staving off a costly arms race and dangerous confrontation.
Most Americans have never seen — or perhaps even contemplated — what it takes to be ready for nuclear conflict. Times Opinion gained rare, up-close access this summer to film what this looks like in the United States. Observing the missile launch procedures provided a glimpse at the inner workings of a warfighting machine that should never be set in motion.
Approximately three times each year, the USA.
Air Force performs this intricate test.
Service members pull a missile from an.
Underground silo in the Great Plains.
The missile is stripped of its nuclear payload and.
Shipped to Vandenberg Space Force Base.
Other nuclear nations conduct tests like these.
On a routine basis.
The global nuclear balance is more tenuous in 2024 than it has been in decades.
"Tomorrow, we could have a war that will be so devastating that you could never recover from it," Mr. Trump said in June. "Nobody can. The whole world won't be able to recover from it. ".
The last remaining major bilateral accord limiting the United States' and Russia's arsenals, New START, expires in just 14 months. And Russian leaders have rejected the Biden administration's offers to discuss a new nuclear arms control framework, which follows the dismantling of other accords meant to lessen the risk of conflict. We are on the precipice of living in a world that has no restraints on how many nuclear weapons are deployed.
President Vladimir Putin of Russia continues to raise the specter of escalating his war on Ukraine to nuclear use. India and Pakistan have an estimated 170 nuclear weapons each but are expanding their arsenals. USA Intelligence believes China plans to double by 2030 the size of its stockpile of an estimated 500 warheads, as it continues the most ambitious expansion and diversification of its weaponry in its history. North Korea has developed missiles designed to strike America. The war in Gaza threatens to expand into a wider regional conflict; Israel already has nuclear weapons and Iran is moving closer to building a bomb, risking a proliferation cascade throughout the Middle East.
The nuclear risk isn't found only among America's adversaries. Allies without nuclear aims are now seriously discussing whether they also need nuclear capability. The recently impeached South Korean president, Yoon Suk-yeol, has raised the possibility of building a bomb, and polls have shown that 70 percent of Koreans think the country should. If South Korea proceeds, experts assume Japan will as well. Germany is debating whether it should develop its own nuclear program, and Poland has sought a more active role in NATO's nuclear sharing. Ukraine's leader, President Volodymyr Zelensky, has made his nation's need for a nuclear weapon clear if the country isn't granted NATO membership.
If Mr. Trump is serious about truly making America great again, this is one critical issue where he can make his mark. The United States spent the second half of the 20th century and into the next with a single stated goal when it came to nuclear weapons: to make the world safer from them. After its devastating bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, this aim was not a given — in the first several decades of the Cold War, the United States and the Soviet Union amassed nuclear arsenals large enough to destroy the human race many times over. By the early 1960's, the Americans and Soviets appeared to be on a collision course toward nuclear war, armed with the most dangerous technology man has ever produced.
The Cuban Missile Crisis put both countries on a new path. In 1963, the superpowers agreed to the first treaty on nuclear testing. By 1968, many nations of the world had agreed in the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty to a grand bargain: In exchange for nonnuclear states forgoing such weapons, the nuclear states would work to get rid of theirs. Facing ever more public pressure, American leaders and diplomats would spend the next five decades leading the effort to set limits on the number of nuclear warheads deployed, as well as establish transparency and clear lines of communication. Shrinking the nuclear arsenal became a bipartisan, generational effort.
Today, nearly all of that work has unraveled.
It can't be ignored that in his first term, Mr. Trump played a significant role in fostering at least some of the risk the world now faces. Yet, given the changed landscape, the United States will have no choice but to lead — something that, based on his campaign rhetoric, Mr. Trump appears to embrace.
In the past, Mr. Trump has said that he first appreciated the true danger of nuclear weapons after talking to an unlikely source: his uncle, an M. I. T. Professor. In 1986, when he was still principally a New York real estate developer, Mr. Trump reached out to the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, which had just received a Nobel Peace Prize for its disarmament work. He hoped to arrange negotiations with the Soviets to lower the nuclear threat.
Now it will be the job of President Trump to pull the world back from the brink. It's time to discuss what he and the United States should prioritize.
I.
America Should.
RENEW ARMS.
CONTROL TALKS.
Visiting Hiroshima in 2016, President Barack Obama was optimistic enough to call on nations that possessed nuclear weapons to "have the courage to escape the logic of fear and pursue a world without them. ".
Abolition is something the United States has not seriously considered — and cannot now afford to consider. With China's unprecedented nuclear buildup underway, the world faces, for the first time, the reality of not just two but three nuclear superpowers. The bipolar strategic balance of the Cold War no longer holds. American diplomats have no choice but to figure out how to restart sustained arms control negotiations and lay the groundwork for future generations to complete the job of nuclear disarmament.
America's tests provide the military with fresh.
Data on how its personnel and aging weapons.
Systems perform in a real-world scenario.
Air Force officers work every day on 24-hour.
Shifts in underground bunkers, awaiting.
The signal to launch if the president ever gives.
The order.
The tests also send an unmistakable message.
To America's adversaries that the nuclear arsenal.
Is ready if that command ever comes.
Mr. Trump's first administration refused to sign on to the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons, in keeping with other nuclear nations' stance on the ban. It also unilaterally withdrew the United States from the Iran nuclear deal, the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty and the Open Skies Treaty. But Mr. Trump did demonstrate an ambitious willingness to sit down with Kim Jong-un of North Korea, even though those talks ultimately went nowhere.
He has a chance now to atone for past mistakes. Masoud Pezeshkian, the new president of Iran, has signaled a willingness to restart serious nuclear negotiations with the West.
Mr. Trump's campaign trumpeted his withdrawal from the previous deal, but in September, the candidate told reporters that he may be open to new talks. As reported in Politico, when asked about it, Mr. Trump said: "We have to make a deal, because the consequences are impossible. We have to make a deal. ".
Mr. Trump, to his credit, grasps the dangers here. Perhaps he can also use some of his influence with President Putin to come to terms on the issue. Here again, some of his campaign rhetoric offers a glimpse of hope. Referring to Mr. Putin, Mr. Trump said in 2023, "he goes, 'You know, we're a great nuclear power. ' he says that publicly now. " Mr. Trump added, falsely: "he never said that when I was here. Because you don't talk about it. It's too destructive. You don't talk about it. Now they're talking about it all the time. ".
To entice China to the table, Mr. Trump could express an openness to declare that the United States would not be the first to use nuclear weapons. The president-elect has shown a willingness to engage, inviting China's leader, Xi Jinping, to his January inauguration.
China has spent the past year signaling the importance of this issue as a necessary requirement for it to move forward in meaningful nuclear talks.
A willingness to engage on a blanket no-first-use policy may ease tensions and provide a foothold for more ambitious discussions.
II.
America Should.
ENSURE NUCLEAR TESTING.
BANS STAY PUT.
While the military still regularly tests the intercontinental ballistic missiles that would deliver a nuclear strike, it hasn't conducted an explosive underground test of the warheads themselves in more than three decades.
A moratorium on testing nuclear weapons has also held in China and Russia. There are growing fears this could soon change, as all three nations update and expand the infrastructure and sites needed to test nuclear weapons, according to commercial satellite imagery by Planet Labs PBC. The photos, analyzed by the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, show each nation is adding buildings, cutting roads and boring tunnels — construction that many fear could presage live explosions.
A nuclear weapon doesn't need to be used in war to have lasting impact. More than 2,000 such weapons were tested during the 20th century, spreading fallout that still affects human beings, public health and the environment. That, in part, is why the United States, along with every other country with nuclear weapons, except North Korea, has voluntarily observed a testing moratorium since the 1990's. The next Trump administration should work to make sure it remains in effect.
The conservative manifesto Project 2025, published by the Heritage Foundation, specifically calls for preparing the nuclear testing site in Nevada for a new generation of tests, which — unlike the tests at Vandenberg — involve detonating actual nuclear explosives. Last summer, in the journal Foreign Affairs, Mr. Trump's former national security adviser Robert O'Brien wrote that "the United States has to maintain technical and numerical superiority to the combined Chinese and Russian nuclear stockpiles. To do so, Washington must test new nuclear weapons for reliability and safety in the real world for the first time since 1992 — not just by using computer models. " Given this logic, Russia and China would be justified in thinking the same.
Mr. Trump's campaign distanced itself from both Project 2025 and Mr. O'Brien's comments, and Mr. O'Brien has not yet been tapped to join the next administration.
While there is no nuclear warhead in this.
Missile, the military still must clear the surrounding airspace and stretch of ocean.
For safety.
If a part fails or the missile veers off course.
During flight, the military will destroy it by.
Remotely detonating onboard explosives.
Data from the missile streams into the Air.
Force's encrypted computer system inside the.
Launch monitoring center.
If Mr. Trump decides the United States should resume nuclear explosive testing, China and Russia will almost surely follow suit. Mr. Putin has already threatened as much. Emerging nuclear powers, such as Iran, would also presumably feel no restraint on carrying out their own tests.
On top of all this, it makes no strategic sense. Starting to test again now would erode the huge scientific advantage the United States enjoys today. The USA Government has conducted more than 1,000 known nuclear detonations — more than China and the Soviet Union combined. Data from those tests, combined with our unparalleled computing power, has allowed America to maintain and improve its arsenal in a way that its rivals can't.
III.
America Should.
REVIEW USA SPENDING.
The United States, Russia and China are now feverishly overhauling their nuclear arsenals in sweeping multibillion-dollar efforts that the federal government benignly calls "modernizing. " The Pentagon plans to update the nuclear arsenal over the next 30 years, including the missiles, bomber jets, submarines and warheads, at nearly $2 trillion.
Mr. Trump could roll back some of that effort. Why must the USA Military replace all of its weapons in one go? Hundreds of millions of dollars could be saved simply by buying fewer of them. Even if Mr. Trump doesn't want to cancel anything, he could at least give himself the political space to rethink such investments by appointing a commission to examine the full range and progress of the modernization plans, which are already over-budget and behind schedule.
The cost of this one test launch: $18 million. It.
Takes about 200 service members to carry it out.
Two officers act as if they've received the.
Presidential order, turning keys on.
Their consoles that ignite the 79,432-pound.
Missile's rocket engines.
Once the weapon roars into the night sky, a.
Message flashes on screens: "MSLA," shorthand.
For "Missile Away. ".
Project 2025, however, rejects congressional efforts to find more cost-effective alternatives to the current plans, calling instead for a nuclear escalation that could rival President Ronald Reagan's at the height of the Cold War.
While Mr. Trump may have distanced himself from Project 2025 on the campaign trail, Christopher Miller, a former USA Army Special Forces colonel who served as his acting defense secretary, was the lead author of its 42-page chapter on defense. Some other alarming proposals include that the second Trump White House prioritize nuclear weapons; develop nuclear-armed, sea-launched cruise missiles, which were withdrawn in the early 1990's; and continue a Biden-era effort to develop a sweeping, untested "cruise missile defense of the homeland" — all of which would require a significant budget increase to bankroll.
Mr. Trump has often condemned the hawkish attitudes of other conservatives. This is the time for him to show that he believes nuclear escalation is a bad idea. It's taken some political courage for Mr. Trump to stake out an independent path from Republican orthodoxy on war-and-peace issues, and this is a chance to put his own views into action.
IV.
America Should.
END SOLE AUTHORITY.
President Trump will command about 3,700 weapons that he alone is empowered to launch. Any decision responding to an incoming nuclear attack on the United States would have to be made within as little as 15 minutes.
It is concern over any precipitous action that led Senator Edward Markey of Massachusetts and Representative Ted Lieu of California, both Democrats, last year to propose legislation to prohibit any president from launching a first-strike nuclear weapon without congressional approval.
Although it is unlikely to be taken up by this Republican-led Congress, the bill would not undercut Mr. Trump's ability to respond to a nuclear attack, an authority all presidents have had and should have.
Agreeing that a pre-emptive nuclear strike should also be endorsed by Congress would be a signal to the world that the United States is serious about limiting nuclear brinkmanship — that disputes among nations should not turn on impulsive nuclear threats of the type that Mr. Putin regularly issues. Mr. Trump wouldn't be weakening himself. He'the be showing the world that he rejects hollow threats.
Fire and exhaust light up the foggy coastline.
As the Minuteman III missile traces an arc across.
The Pacific.
Roughly a half-hour later, a dummy warhead.
Falls away, re-entering the Earth's atmosphere at.
A blistering four miles per second.
It strikes the target area — a lagoon in the middle.
Of the Marshall Islands' Kwajalein Atoll — like a.
Lightning bolt.
Data from this exercise in June will help USA.
Commanders fine-tune future tests scheduled.
Under the next Trump administration.
One paradox of the nuclear age is that it has often been the most bellicose leaders who become the most committed — and who are the most effective — at securing arms control deals and shrinking global stockpiles. Dwight Eisenhower, who led the allied war effort against the Nazis, came to warn against the military-industrial complex. Nikita Khrushchev and John F. Kennedy were swaggering brinksmen until they brought the world close to annihilation. Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev each came to see that nuclear weapons were vastly more dangerous in an unstable world.
Donald Trump ran a campaign of peace through strength. Time will tell if he can deliver what he promised. But all Americans should rejoice if Mr. Trump leaves the world a safer place from nuclear weapons than it was when he took office for the second time.
The editorial board is a group of opinion journalists whose views are informed by expertise.
That would be Newt Gingrich's Congress that threw every wrench, drill and screwdriver in the gears to obstruct and sabotage, and when they failed, claimed it was the Republican governors who lifted the economy despite Clinton's efforts.
Sheesh!
Even when you're right, you're only half-right and that's being generous.Without the Republican Congress, Clinton and Rubin would never have balanced the budget. You put one party in control of government and it spends with drunken abandon. Without the Republicans, welfare reform, cutting the capital gains tax, NAFTA and the Crime Bill wouldn't have happened the way they did either. I'm not a fan of the Crime Bill but believe the other items were positive.
In his second term, Clinton didn't start any wars, was not a class warrior or sanctimonious prick, didn't try to overturn American democracy, and didn't run wild with progressive policies. That and balancing the budget are why I believe he was a better president than Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden respectively. And he got blow jobs in the oval office from an intern! Yeah, maybe she was a chubby, homely looking intern, but all the same, he's my favorite! True, he was no Ronald Reagan, but in his second term he was a solid president.
The Marquis (aka The Bernie Bro) undoubtedly will use the NAFTA reference as an excuse to say I'm pure evil, but he's just towing the Progressive line.
That's not what I wrote. I said a majority of Americans and I think Biden's economic policy sucked.
An NBER paper earlier this year written by economists at the IMF and Democrat Larry Summers explains why. You can download the paper here.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w32163
Or read a summary here.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2024/03/23/summers-inflation-reached-18-in-2022-using-the-governments-previous-formula/#text=argue%2 C%20%E2%80%9 Cwill%20 understate%20 the%20 pressure, November%202022%2 C%20 and%20 remains%20 elevated.
If you look at the official numbers, the median American wage earner saw prices increase about 1/2 of 1% more than wages during the Biden administration. Compare to the Trump administration, when wages rose by almost 7% more than prices. Those are wages before tax. After income tax, median real wages were up more than 7%, because of the Trump tax cuts for the middle class.
But the official numbers don't take into account the increase in interest payments borne by Americans, manifested in higher house, car and credit card payments and the like. The consumer price index, the way it was calculated prior to 1983, did take that into account. What Summers and the rest did in the NBER study was go back and calculate CPI using the pre-1983 method. And then they compared it to consumer sentiment.
Using the old methodology, which includes interest expense borne by consumers, inflation peaked at 18% in November, 2022! And if you look at consumer sentiment, which can serve as a proxy for how much Americans believed Biden's economic policy sucks, it tracks the Summers et al CPI a lot better than the current CPI.
In other words, the workingman is way behind the eight ball. And that's the reason Biden got poor numbers for economic policy in surveys.
Now undoubtedly you're not going to accept that. We had a similar discussion about why Americans thought the economy sucked under Carter because of high inflation, and, reading between the lines, you attributed it to mass psychosis.
Why do I (as opposed to the majority of Americans) think his economic policy sucked? We've been through that a million times. Since Biden took office, the economy has done well (no recession), we've been at peace, and we were over the worst of the pandemic. Yet his policies, as implemented with the help of a Democratic controlled Congress in 2021 and 2022, have put us on track to rack up fiscal deficits around 6% per year as far as the eye can see! That's not sustainable. It's a recipe for disaster.
Far from buying votes as expected, the Democrats' profligate spending ignited inflation and caused them to loose the election. However, yes, if you're part of the welfare class, or received benefits from the massive amounts of corporate pork spread far and wide by the Biden administration, then you probably think the economy is / was hunky dory.That is a perfect example of the fanciful, lazy, academic theories that conservatives hang onto like rats on a rafter but that fail miserably in the Real World.
Joe Biden's economic policy results are better than any conservative Repub's economic policy results since the inception of the Repub Party. Which isn't saying much, I realize. But they are also better than most other Dem's policy results. Which is saying a tremendous amount.
But, of course, in the mind of a conservative, Repub or not, those policies suck because they don't fit some fanciful, lazy, academic notion that sounds great, looks great on paper and appears to be oh so easy to enact (lazy) but that always fail miserably in the Real World.
Of course, those conservative notions are never really tested when producing positive Real World results really matter and are critical to economic survival for millions of Americans.
Why? Because no outgoing Dem has ever handed those kind of horrific economic results to an incoming Repub to handle and resolve. No. Only outgoing Repubs hand those kind of horrific economic policy results conditions for incoming Dems to handle and resolve. And without exception it was after the Repub had applied those wonderfully fanciful, lazy, academic economic policies that sound great, look great on paper but also without exception have failed miserably to produce anything but horrific economic results in the Real World.
And that was after the Repub inherited historically great economic conditions, as FDR / Truman handed Eisenhower, JFK / LBJ handed Nixon / Ford, Carter handed Reagan, Clinton handed Bush2, Obama handed Trump and Biden is handing Trump again.
So one can only imagine the new depths of horrorific results those Repub economic policies would produce if they ever once were put to the Real World challenge that virtually every Dem has had to face and surmounted over the past 100 years of sucked Repub economic policy results..
Remember "the best economy ever" that Donald Trump and his Repubs produced starting on "day one" after inheriting already damn good economic conditions from Obama-Biden back in 2017?
I mean, before "the China virus" came out of nowhere and developed into a worldwide economy-destroying Pandemic that "Nobody predicted would happen" except every expert in the field but only if some so-called potus was stupid enough to defund and remove the Pandemic Prevention team leadership that had been stationed in those Chinese labs, which Trump then promptly did?
You know, the Trump economic nirvana years that polls if not specific election results indicated Americans were pining to repeat again?
Most Americans say finances haven't improved since 2016 election.
Twenty-seven percent of people earning under $30,000 a year said their finances have worsened since the last presidential election.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/most-americans-say-their-finances-haven-t-improved-election-n923776
Behold what poll respondents virtually ALWAYS say about the economy and their own financial situation.
Similarly, polls have almost always shown that "most people" think Repubs are better at handling the economy than Dems.
However, that is most certainly NOT the way "most people" vote when the sucky Repub economic policy results have the economy crashing down around our ears and millions of jobs are being wiped out. They don't elect more Repubs to "handle" the problem. Nope. They elect more Dems to "handle" the problem.
When do they NOT run out to elect Dems and elect Repubs or allow Repubs to get elected instead? All too often it because they are in reality fairly satisfied with their own economic and financial situation.
Similar to what the 1. 47 percentage point more Trump voters than Harris voters did this time around. That is despite the actual and specific reason Trump was elected instead of Harris being because a relative handful of angry, Netanyahu-hating but already regretful Muslims were mobilized to vote for Trump instead of Harris in the only three states that mattered in order to express their hatred for Netanyahu.
And all of that is very much in keeping with my observation many months ago that the greatest threat to a 2nd term election of Joe Biden (but then it became Kamala Harris) was that, despite the perennial grousing about the economy we see from poll respondents, the reality is Bidenomics has produced "too good" of an economy, which generally means people stay home and don't bother to vote because, hey, what's the worst that could happen in this "Bothsider / Neithersider", selective Amnesia world.
Without the Republican Congress, Clinton and Rubin would never have balanced the budget. You put one party in control of government and it spends with drunken abandon. Without the Republicans, welfare reform, cutting the capital gains tax, NAFTA and the Crime Bill wouldn't have happened the way they did either. I'm not a fan of the Crime Bill but believe the other items were positive.
In his second term, Clinton didn't start any wars, was not a class warrior or sanctimonious prick, didn't try to overturn American democracy, and didn't run wild with progressive policies. That and balancing the budget are why I believe he was a better president than Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden respectively. And he got blow jobs in the oval office from an intern! Yeah, maybe she was a chubby, homely looking intern, but all the same, he's my favorite! True, he was no Ronald Reagan, but in his second term he was a solid president.
The Marquis (aka The Bernie Bro) undoubtedly will use the NAFTA reference as an excuse to say I'm pure evil, but he's just towing the Progressive line.The 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act passed by Clinton and the Dems in Congress without a single vote from a Repub had tax cuts, tax increases and spending provisions that were all paid for within the bill. Which is typical of Dem-proposed legislation. And it was already creating positive gains in the economy vs what Reagan / Bush1 left behind by the middle of 1994, months before Repubs took majority control of Congress and began to do everything possible to thwart and reverse that positive economic trajectory.
Thankfully, they failed in those efforts.
Consequently, by the end of Clinton's presidency, not only had America enjoyed an unprecedented 7 years of Peace, Prosperity, Growth, Job Gains, Stock Market Gains AND a Budget Surplus.
All of which came to a crashing halt as soon as the brilliant American Electorate demonstrated their usual clear and fine understanding of how a national economy works, voted in Repub GW Bush (or at least got it close enough for GW Bush's brother and confederates in Florida to allow it to be stolen) and that Repub potus launched into the usual conservative Repub policies sure to produce Sucky Economic Policy Results. Which they well and surely did with a vengeance.
You want to find tax cuts and legislation that produce little or nothing of value and go unpaid for, adding Trillons to the deficit? I direct you to Trump's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, fully supported by a "Republican Congress" and without a single Dem vote.
Among other Repub potus proposed and passed legislation.
The 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act passed by Clinton and the Dems in Congress without a single vote from a Repub had tax cuts, tax increases and spending provisions that were all paid for within the bill. Which is typical of Dem-proposed legislation. And it was already creating positive gains in the economy vs what Reagan / Bush1 left behind by the middle of 1994, months before Repubs took majority control of Congress and began to do everything possible to thwart and reverse that positive economic trajectory.
Thankfully, they failed in those efforts.
Consequently, by the end of Clinton's presidency, not only had America enjoyed an unprecedented 7 years of Peace, Prosperity, Growth, Job Gains, Stock Market Gains AND a Budget Surplus.
All of which came to a crashing halt as soon as the brilliant American Electorate demonstrated their usual clear and fine understanding of how a national economy works, voted in Repub GW Bush (or at least got it close enough for GW Bush's brother and confederates in Florida to allow it to be stolen) and that Repub potus launched into the usual conservative Repub policies sure to produce Sucky Economic Policy Results. Which they well and surely did with a vengeance.
You want to find tax cuts and legislation that produce little or nothing of value and go unpaid for, adding Trillons to the deficit? I direct you to Trump's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, fully supported by a "Republican Congress" and without a single Dem vote.
Among other Repub potus proposed and passed legislation.The federal deficit as a % of GDP was in the range of 2.1% to 3.7% during the time Clinton and Democrats controlled the presidency and Congress, and during the year afterwards. The budget surplus peaked at 2. 3% of GDP when Clinton was president and Republicans controlled Congress.
The Congressional Democrats during the early 1990's were a different breed. Your party has increasingly moved to the left. The two best Democratic Senators, Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin, abandoned their membership in the party because of that. They were bulwarks against the spending getting really crazy during the Biden presidency. The increasingly-progressive Congressional Democrats now look for guidance to people like your Economic Hero, Stephanie Kelton, instead of wise men and women like Larry Summers. Some believe, like Kelton, that deficits don't matter. Bah humbug!
I'm not going to defend Republicans failure to control spending in 2017 and 2018. Like I already said, when one party controls the presidency and Congress, the bastards spend like drunken sailors. No insult intended towards sailors. And, as I've written more than once, go out past 4 years from inception and the corporate tax rate cut implemented in 2018 starts to generate more income for the Treasury than would have been the case with the old status quo.
That is a perfect example of the fanciful, lazy, academic theories that conservatives hang onto like rats on a rafter but that fail miserably in the Real World.
Joe Biden's economic policy results are better than any conservative Repub's economic policy results since the inception of the Repub Party. Which isn't saying much, I realize. But they are also better than most other Dem's policy results. Which is saying a tremendous amount.
But, of course, in the mind of a conservative, Repub or not, those policies suck because they don't fit some fanciful, lazy, academic notion that sounds great, looks great on paper and appears to be oh so easy to enact (lazy) but that always fail miserably in the Real World.
Of course, those conservative notions are never really tested when producing positive Real World results really matter and are critical to economic survival for millions of Americans.
Why? Because no outgoing Dem has ever handed those kind of horrific economic results to an incoming Repub to handle and resolve. No. Only outgoing Repubs hand those kind of horrific economic policy results conditions for incoming Dems to handle and resolve. And without exception it was after the Repub had applied those wonderfully fanciful, lazy, academic economic policies that sound great, look great on paper but also without exception have failed miserably to produce anything but horrific economic results in the Real World.
And that was after the Repub inherited historically great economic conditions, as FDR / Truman handed Eisenhower, JFK / LBJ handed Nixon / Ford, Carter handed Reagan, Clinton handed Bush2, Obama handed Trump and Biden is handing Trump again.
So one can only imagine the new depths of horrorific results those Repub economic policies would produce if they ever once were put to the Real World challenge that virtually every Dem has had to face and surmounted over the past 100 years of sucked Repub economic policy results..There are two problems with your analysis. The first is that the name of the highly partisan Democrat economist Larry Summers is on that paper, along with several other economists who work at Harvard and the IMF. Summers was Director of the NEA under Obama and Treasury Secretary under Clinton.
The second is that it's not much of an academic theory. Rather it's mostly common sense. As they say in the paper, "Home prices are up almost 50 percent since the start of the pandemic, while the 30-year mortgage rate has tripled since the historic lows of 2021. Given that home prices remain at historic highs despite higher interest rates, the interest payment on a new 30-year mortgage for the average house has increased more than threefold since 2021. The interest payment on a new car loan has increased more than 80 percent since the start of the pandemic. It is not surprising that this would affect how consumers feel about the economy. ".
None of that is reflected in the CPI. And even not considering the interest-related costs borne by the workingman, the median real weekly earnings from the date of Biden's inauguration until September 30,2024, just before the election, barely budged. They went down slightly.
You most likely don't make car payments or house payments in the USA. You don't shop for groceries in the USA. As such, you don't understand what's obvious to many Americans.
You always come back to the 1. 5% margin by which Trump won the presidency. Well, Trump was a very poor general election candidate. Any other mainstream, reasonably likeable, well known Republican candidate would have beat Harris like a drum. And the reason why is what we've been debating.
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In 30 minutes, it will hit a target in the.
Ocean over 4,000 miles away.
On Jan. 20, Donald Trump will regain.
Control of these weapons.
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In the United States, only the president can decide whether to use nuclear weapons. It's an extraordinary instance in which Mr. Trump's decision-making power will be absolute. He will not need to consult Congress, the courts or senior advisers on when or how to use them. He will have a free hand to craft our nation's nuclear posture, policy and diplomacy.
On the campaign trail, Mr. Trump commented on the peril posed by the rest of the world's growing nuclear arsenals. His return to the White House offers new opportunities for him to steer America clear of those threats. His administration will need to act urgently and with creativity, all while also demonstrating the understanding that nuclear weapons are too dangerous to be brandished as a cudgel.
This article is part of the Opinion series At the Brink.
About the threat of nuclear weapons in an unstable world. Read the opening story here.
The leaders of China, Russia and the United States are in the midst of a new great-power competition, a global struggle for military, economic and geopolitical dominance. But not all aspects of this contest are zero-sum, especially in nuclear weapons matters. There are ample opportunities for all sides to improve their own national security conditions by staving off a costly arms race and dangerous confrontation.
Most Americans have never seen or perhaps even contemplated what it takes to be ready for nuclear conflict. Times Opinion gained rare, up-close access this summer to film what this looks like in the United States. Observing the missile launch procedures provided a glimpse at the inner workings of a warfighting machine that should never be set in motion.
Approximately three times each year, the USA.
Air Force performs this intricate test.
Service members pull a missile from an.
Underground silo in the Great Plains.
The missile is stripped of its nuclear payload and.
Shipped to Vandenberg Space Force Base.
Other nuclear nations conduct tests like these.
On a routine basis.
The global nuclear balance is more tenuous in 2024 than it has been in decades.
"Tomorrow, we could have a war that will be so devastating that you could never recover from it," Mr. Trump said in June. "Nobody can. The whole world won't be able to recover from it. ".
The last remaining major bilateral accord limiting the United States' and Russia's arsenals, New START, expires in just 14 months. And Russian leaders have rejected the Biden administration's offers to discuss a new nuclear arms control framework, which follows the dismantling of other accords meant to lessen the risk of conflict. We are on the precipice of living in a world that has no restraints on how many nuclear weapons are deployed.
President Vladimir Putin of Russia continues to raise the specter of escalating his war on Ukraine to nuclear use. India and Pakistan have an estimated 170 nuclear weapons each but are expanding their arsenals. USA Intelligence believes China plans to double by 2030 the size of its stockpile of an estimated 500 warheads, as it continues the most ambitious expansion and diversification of its weaponry in its history. North Korea has developed missiles designed to strike America. The war in Gaza threatens to expand into a wider regional conflict; Israel already has nuclear weapons and Iran is moving closer to building a bomb, risking a proliferation cascade throughout the Middle East.
The nuclear risk isn't found only among America's adversaries. Allies without nuclear aims are now seriously discussing whether they also need nuclear capability. The recently impeached South Korean president, Yoon Suk-yeol, has raised the possibility of building a bomb, and polls have shown that 70 percent of Koreans think the country should. If South Korea proceeds, experts assume Japan will as well. Germany is debating whether it should develop its own nuclear program, and Poland has sought a more active role in NATO's nuclear sharing. Ukraine's leader, President Volodymyr Zelensky, has made his nation's need for a nuclear weapon clear if the country isn't granted NATO membership.
If Mr. Trump is serious about truly making America great again, this is one critical issue where he can make his mark. The United States spent the second half of the 20th century and into the next with a single stated goal when it came to nuclear weapons: to make the world safer from them. After its devastating bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, this aim was not a given in the first several decades of the Cold War, the United States and the Soviet Union amassed nuclear arsenals large enough to destroy the human race many times over. By the early 1960's, the Americans and Soviets appeared to be on a collision course toward nuclear war, armed with the most dangerous technology man has ever produced.
The Cuban Missile Crisis put both countries on a new path. In 1963, the superpowers agreed to the first treaty on nuclear testing. By 1968, many nations of the world had agreed in the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty to a grand bargain: In exchange for nonnuclear states forgoing such weapons, the nuclear states would work to get rid of theirs. Facing ever more public pressure, American leaders and diplomats would spend the next five decades leading the effort to set limits on the number of nuclear warheads deployed, as well as establish transparency and clear lines of communication. Shrinking the nuclear arsenal became a bipartisan, generational effort.
Today, nearly all of that work has unraveled.
It can't be ignored that in his first term, Mr. Trump played a significant role in fostering at least some of the risk the world now faces. Yet, given the changed landscape, the United States will have no choice but to lead something that, based on his campaign rhetoric, Mr. Trump appears to embrace.
In the past, Mr. Trump has said that he first appreciated the true danger of nuclear weapons after talking to an unlikely source: his uncle, an M. I. T. Professor. In 1986, when he was still principally a New York real estate developer, Mr. Trump reached out to the International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War, which had just received a Nobel Peace Prize for its disarmament work. He hoped to arrange negotiations with the Soviets to lower the nuclear threat.
Now it will be the job of President Trump to pull the world back from the brink. It's time to discuss what he and the United States should prioritize.
I.
America Should.
RENEW ARMS.
CONTROL TALKS.
Visiting Hiroshima in 2016, President Barack Obama was optimistic enough to call on nations that possessed nuclear weapons to "have the courage to escape the logic of fear and pursue a world without them. ".
Abolition is something the United States has not seriously considered and cannot now afford to consider. With China's unprecedented nuclear buildup underway, the world faces, for the first time, the reality of not just two but three nuclear superpowers. The bipolar strategic balance of the Cold War no longer holds. American diplomats have no choice but to figure out how to restart sustained arms control negotiations and lay the groundwork for future generations to complete the job of nuclear disarmament.
America's tests provide the military with fresh.
Data on how its personnel and aging weapons.
Systems perform in a real-world scenario.
Air Force officers work every day on 24-hour.
Shifts in underground bunkers, awaiting.
The signal to launch if the president ever gives.
The order.
The tests also send an unmistakable message.
To America's adversaries that the nuclear arsenal.
Is ready if that command ever comes.
Mr. Trump's first administration refused to sign on to the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons, in keeping with other nuclear nations' stance on the ban. It also unilaterally withdrew the United States from the Iran nuclear deal, the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty and the Open Skies Treaty. But Mr. Trump did demonstrate an ambitious willingness to sit down with Kim Jong-un of North Korea, even though those talks ultimately went nowhere.
He has a chance now to atone for past mistakes. Masoud Pezeshkian, the new president of Iran, has signaled a willingness to restart serious nuclear negotiations with the West.
Mr. Trump's campaign trumpeted his withdrawal from the previous deal, but in September, the candidate told reporters that he may be open to new talks. As reported in Politico, when asked about it, Mr. Trump said: "We have to make a deal, because the consequences are impossible. We have to make a deal. ".
Mr. Trump, to his credit, grasps the dangers here. Perhaps he can also use some of his influence with President Putin to come to terms on the issue. Here again, some of his campaign rhetoric offers a glimpse of hope. Referring to Mr. Putin, Mr. Trump said in 2023, "he goes, 'You know, we're a great nuclear power. ' he says that publicly now. " Mr. Trump added, falsely: "he never said that when I was here. Because you don't talk about it. It's too destructive. You don't talk about it. Now they're talking about it all the time. ".
To entice China to the table, Mr. Trump could express an openness to declare that the United States would not be the first to use nuclear weapons. The president-elect has shown a willingness to engage, inviting China's leader, Xi Jinping, to his January inauguration.
China has spent the past year signaling the importance of this issue as a necessary requirement for it to move forward in meaningful nuclear talks.
A willingness to engage on a blanket no-first-use policy may ease tensions and provide a foothold for more ambitious discussions.
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America Should.
ENSURE NUCLEAR TESTING.
BANS STAY PUT.
While the military still regularly tests the intercontinental ballistic missiles that would deliver a nuclear strike, it hasn't conducted an explosive underground test of the warheads themselves in more than three decades.
A moratorium on testing nuclear weapons has also held in China and Russia. There are growing fears this could soon change, as all three nations update and expand the infrastructure and sites needed to test nuclear weapons, according to commercial satellite imagery by Planet Labs PBC. The photos, analyzed by the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, show each nation is adding buildings, cutting roads and boring tunnels construction that many fear could presage live explosions.
A nuclear weapon doesn't need to be used in war to have lasting impact. More than 2,000 such weapons were tested during the 20th century, spreading fallout that still affects human beings, public health and the environment. That, in part, is why the United States, along with every other country with nuclear weapons, except North Korea, has voluntarily observed a testing moratorium since the 1990's. The next Trump administration should work to make sure it remains in effect.
The conservative manifesto Project 2025, published by the Heritage Foundation, specifically calls for preparing the nuclear testing site in Nevada for a new generation of tests, which unlike the tests at Vandenberg involve detonating actual nuclear explosives. Last summer, in the journal Foreign Affairs, Mr. Trump's former national security adviser Robert O'Brien wrote that "the United States has to maintain technical and numerical superiority to the combined Chinese and Russian nuclear stockpiles. To do so, Washington must test new nuclear weapons for reliability and safety in the real world for the first time since 1992 not just by using computer models. " Given this logic, Russia and China would be justified in thinking the same.
Mr. Trump's campaign distanced itself from both Project 2025 and Mr. O'Brien's comments, and Mr. O'Brien has not yet been tapped to join the next administration.
While there is no nuclear warhead in this.
Missile, the military still must clear the surrounding airspace and stretch of ocean.
For safety.
If a part fails or the missile veers off course.
During flight, the military will destroy it by.
Remotely detonating onboard explosives.
Data from the missile streams into the Air.
Force's encrypted computer system inside the.
Launch monitoring center.
If Mr. Trump decides the United States should resume nuclear explosive testing, China and Russia will almost surely follow suit. Mr. Putin has already threatened as much. Emerging nuclear powers, such as Iran, would also presumably feel no restraint on carrying out their own tests.
On top of all this, it makes no strategic sense. Starting to test again now would erode the huge scientific advantage the United States enjoys today. The USA Government has conducted more than 1,000 known nuclear detonations more than China and the Soviet Union combined. Data from those tests, combined with our unparalleled computing power, has allowed America to maintain and improve its arsenal in a way that its rivals can't.
III.
America Should.
REVIEW USA SPENDING.
The United States, Russia and China are now feverishly overhauling their nuclear arsenals in sweeping multibillion-dollar efforts that the federal government benignly calls "modernizing. " The Pentagon plans to update the nuclear arsenal over the next 30 years, including the missiles, bomber jets, submarines and warheads, at nearly $2 trillion.
Mr. Trump could roll back some of that effort. Why must the USA Military replace all of its weapons in one go? Hundreds of millions of dollars could be saved simply by buying fewer of them. Even if Mr. Trump doesn't want to cancel anything, he could at least give himself the political space to rethink such investments by appointing a commission to examine the full range and progress of the modernization plans, which are already over-budget and behind schedule.
The cost of this one test launch: $18 million. It.
Takes about 200 service members to carry it out.
Two officers act as if they've received the.
Presidential order, turning keys on.
Their consoles that ignite the 79,432-pound.
Missile's rocket engines.
Once the weapon roars into the night sky, a.
Message flashes on screens: "MSLA," shorthand.
For "Missile Away. ".
Project 2025, however, rejects congressional efforts to find more cost-effective alternatives to the current plans, calling instead for a nuclear escalation that could rival President Ronald Reagan's at the height of the Cold War.
While Mr. Trump may have distanced himself from Project 2025 on the campaign trail, Christopher Miller, a former USA Army Special Forces colonel who served as his acting defense secretary, was the lead author of its 42-page chapter on defense. Some other alarming proposals include that the second Trump White House prioritize nuclear weapons; develop nuclear-armed, sea-launched cruise missiles, which were withdrawn in the early 1990's; and continue a Biden-era effort to develop a sweeping, untested "cruise missile defense of the homeland" all of which would require a significant budget increase to bankroll.
Mr. Trump has often condemned the hawkish attitudes of other conservatives. This is the time for him to show that he believes nuclear escalation is a bad idea. It's taken some political courage for Mr. Trump to stake out an independent path from Republican orthodoxy on war-and-peace issues, and this is a chance to put his own views into action.
IV.
America Should.
END SOLE AUTHORITY.
President Trump will command about 3,700 weapons that he alone is empowered to launch. Any decision responding to an incoming nuclear attack on the United States would have to be made within as little as 15 minutes.
It is concern over any precipitous action that led Senator Edward Markey of Massachusetts and Representative Ted Lieu of California, both Democrats, last year to propose legislation to prohibit any president from launching a first-strike nuclear weapon without congressional approval.
Although it is unlikely to be taken up by this Republican-led Congress, the bill would not undercut Mr. Trump's ability to respond to a nuclear attack, an authority all presidents have had and should have.
Agreeing that a pre-emptive nuclear strike should also be endorsed by Congress would be a signal to the world that the United States is serious about limiting nuclear brinkmanship that disputes among nations should not turn on impulsive nuclear threats of the type that Mr. Putin regularly issues. Mr. Trump wouldn't be weakening himself. He'the be showing the world that he rejects hollow threats.
Fire and exhaust light up the foggy coastline.
As the Minuteman III missile traces an arc across.
The Pacific.
Roughly a half-hour later, a dummy warhead.
Falls away, re-entering the Earth's atmosphere at.
A blistering four miles per second.
It strikes the target area a lagoon in the middle.
Of the Marshall Islands' Kwajalein Atoll like a.
Lightning bolt.
Data from this exercise in June will help USA.
Commanders fine-tune future tests scheduled.
Under the next Trump administration.
One paradox of the nuclear age is that it has often been the most bellicose leaders who become the most committed and who are the most effective at securing arms control deals and shrinking global stockpiles. Dwight Eisenhower, who led the allied war effort against the Nazis, came to warn against the military-industrial complex. Nikita Khrushchev and John F. Kennedy were swaggering brinksmen until they brought the world close to annihilation. Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev each came to see that nuclear weapons were vastly more dangerous in an unstable world.
Donald Trump ran a campaign of peace through strength. Time will tell if he can deliver what he promised. But all Americans should rejoice if Mr. Trump leaves the world a safer place from nuclear weapons than it was when he took office for the second time.
The editorial board is a group of opinion journalists whose views are informed by expertise.Who tried to fuck your Capitol? Not even Bin Laden. USA seem so scared of China with 4 times more population and same for India, when USA are less than 5% of the new world. Biggest danger for USA is to come, inside.
There are two problems with your analysis. The first is that the name of the highly partisan Democrat economist Larry Summers is on that paper, along with several other economists who work at Harvard and the IMF. Summers was Director of the NEA under Obama and Treasury Secretary under Clinton.
The second is that it's not much of an academic theory. Rather it's mostly common sense. As they say in the paper, "Home prices are up almost 50 percent since the start of the pandemic, while the 30-year mortgage rate has tripled since the historic lows of 2021. Given that home prices remain at historic highs despite higher interest rates, the interest payment on a new 30-year mortgage for the average house has increased more than threefold since 2021. The interest payment on a new car loan has increased more than 80 percent since the start of the pandemic. It is not surprising that this would affect how consumers feel about the economy. ".
None of that is reflected in the CPI. And even not considering the interest-related costs borne by the workingman, the median real weekly earnings from the date of Biden's inauguration until September 30,2024, just before the election, barely budged. They went down slightly.
You most likely don't have to make car payments or house payments in the USA. You don't shop for groceries or buy gasoline in the USA. As such, you don't understand what's obvious to many Americans.
You always come back to the 1. 5% margin by which Trump won the presidency. Well, Trump was a very poor general election candidate. Any other mainstream, reasonably likeable, well known Republican candidate would have beat Harris like a drum. And the reason why is what we've been debating.So nobody has been able to buy anything, go anywhere, travel or eat an egg in America since Biden recovered us from the worst economic downturn since GW Bush, which was the worst economic downturn since Reagan, which was the worst economic downturn since Hoover. Because Larry Summers told you so.
Got it.
And how about the Repub claiming to have produced "the greatest economy ever" by adding Trillons to the deficit with an economic "stimulus" legislation that produced a million fewer jobs with it than without it assuring us that "107% of the new jobs Biden created went to illegal aliens" and that "tariffs are tax payments to American Consumers by other countries and we will be able to pay for all the child-care and anything else anyone needs with the money we get from taroffs on China"?
Brilliant conservative economic principles, right? Got a nice fanciful, lazy academic chart to support those? What does Larry Summers have to say about it? If he says hey it's all good you'll be fine with it too, right?
I make mortgage payments in the USA and have done so for one property or another since 1986, paying USA Federal taxes since 1966, paid California State taxes from 1966 to 2013.
I assume the data on jobs creation, purchasing power, gas prices, retail sales, travel trends, GDP Growth, the stock market, housing values, corporate profits, the unrmployment rate, jobs creation, NBER's Recession analysis etc did not suddenly become one lie after another over the past 4 years of the Biden-Harris / Dem recovery from Trump's Pandemic. Unless you have heard otherwise from Larry Summers, that is.
Fed cuts by a quarter point, indicates fewer reductions ahead.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/18/fed-rate-decision-december-2024-.html?__source=androidappshare
Powell has indicated that the rate cuts are an effort to recalibrate policy as it does not need to be as restrictive under the current conditions.
We think the economy is in really good place. We think policy is in a really good place, he said Wednesday.Hasn't Powell heard Larry Summers' pronouncement on this? The Fed should be as angry about the state of today's sucky economy as that relative handful of Netanyahu-hating but already regretful Muslims across just three states that "gave Trump the presidency" while Trump has also acknowledged as much. They should be lowering the Fed Funds Rate to 0% or near it to pull us out of this horrible economic downturn like they had to with at least 4 Repub presidents' economic policy results over the past 100 years!
Doesn't the Fed have access to all those lovely charts and graphs that Larry Summers and his slavish devotees refer to that prove this economy sucks because Biden's economic policy sucks?
Oh, but then there is this:
Moreover, the Fed will have to deal with the impact of fiscal policy under President-elect Donald Trump, who has indicated plans for tariffs, tax cuts and mass deportations that all could be inflationary and complicate the central banks job.
We need to take our time, not rush and make a very careful assessment, but only when weve actually seen what the policies are and how theyve been implemented, Powell said of the Trump plans. Were just not at that stage.Well, we know Trump has already increased the price of imported goods and products since the election. His repeated insistence that he will add 10%-25%-200% across-the-board tariffs on so many imported goods and services "on Day One" has created uncommonly high and early retailer demand for front loading inventory that has driven container and shipping costs to increase. The higher costs of which will be passed on to the American Consumer and will absolutely positively not be paid by China, Canada, Mexico or any other countries.
Then again, until Larry Summers weighs in on it nobody really knows what to think about it.
Numbskull Repub President-elect Ramaswamy has not as of this writing weighed in but Numbskull President-elect Musk and Numbskull Repub President-elect Banning have been very clear that they want ChristoFascist Mike to follow the venerable tradition of the Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat Repub Party in simply shutting down the government instead of earning so much as one more day of their generous American tax-payer dollars paychecks by actually working for their pay.
Trump joins Elon Musk in opposing House GOP's government funding bill.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/18/trump-joins-elon-musk-in-opposing-house-gops-government-funding-bill.html?__source=androidappshare
Note to Larry Summers: THIS is why Biden and the Dems had no choice but to get as much economic stimulus into the system as early as possible to pull America and the rest of the world out of the colossal and unprecedented disaster of Trump's Pandemic and whatever variation of it might have mutated into existence at any moment back in early 2021 in the first trip to the well. As long as THIS current incarnation of the Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat Repub Party exists and it was easily predictable by historic precedence that they would be granted at least a Pink Tinkle Majority in the House by the usual fine and clear understanding of how the national economy works, legislation and governance gets done by the American Electorate, there was no way they could count on incrimental increases if or when it might be desperately needed.
The fact that Biden and the Dems ONLY over-estimated by a dime or two and arguably if even that much in order to make it unnecessary to go back to the Numbskull Repub Congress Pink Tinkle well any time after January 2023 and that America only had to endure a relatively minor transitional rate of Inflation compared to the rest of the world is a testament to his and the Dems' true brilliance in what could and should be done to prevent another Great Repub Depression as well as, very possibly, millions more Americans and others mass murdered by Trump's incompetence.
This current incarnation of the Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat Repub Party is infinitely more malignant and hateful of America than when Nude Grinbitch's version of it for the last 6 years of Bill Clinton's presidency simply meant they kept themselves busy doing nothing but a couple of expensive and wasteful government shutdowns while they spent their few working days just sniffing around Clinton's dick and balls to find out where they've been.
It is currently more malignant and hateful of America than when they pushed for shutdown after shutdown, finally got the USA credit rating lowered and were happy to spend their few working days ranting about Obama's tan suit and whether or not he was called "Barry" in his university days.
No, this time around they have managed to gin up their hatred for America to another level. It is going to be a wild and potentially most damaging to America and Americans' conservative Repub ride for the next four years.
Those less than 115,000 domestic terrorist-inclined angry, Netanyahu-hating Muslims who shouted "Allahu Akbar" as they sailed into polling places in those three states to swing the election to Trump instead of Harris sure got their anti-America goals met. Perhaps more than even they ever hoped for or expected.
And if anyone doubts that both Party's will eventually come to realize that was indeed the "tie-breaker" demo and motive that swung the election from Harris to Trump, let's see how much pandering and catering to the Muslim communities in PA, MI and WI each Party lavishes on them starting sometime in early 2028. And if he is still installed and not in prison, let's see what Netanyahu does that year to manupulate that demo into "giving the presidency" to his preferred nominee then. LOL.
So nobody has been able to buy anything, go anywhere, travel or eat an egg in America since Biden recovered us from the worst economic downturn since GW Bush, which was the worst economic downturn since Reagan, which was the worst economic downturn since Hoover. Because Larry Summers told you so.
Got it.
And how about the Repub claiming to have produced "the greatest economy ever" by adding Trillons to the deficit with an economic "stimulus" legislation that produced a million fewer jobs with it than without it assuring us that "107% of the new jobs Biden created went to illegal aliens" and that "tariffs are tax payments to American Consumers by other countries and we will be able to pay for all the child-care and anything else anyone needs with the money we get from taroffs on China"?
Brilliant conservative economic principles, right? Got a nice fanciful, lazy academic chart to support those? What does Larry Summers have to say about it? If he says hey it's all good you'll be fine with it too, right?
I make mortgage payments in the USA and have done so for one property or another since 1986, paying USA Federal taxes since 1966, paid California State taxes from 1966 to 2013.
I assume the data on jobs creation, purchasing power, gas prices, retail sales, travel trends, GDP Growth, the stock market, housing values, corporate profits, the unrmployment rate, jobs creation, NBER's Recession analysis etc did not suddenly become one lie after another over the past 4 years of the Biden-Harris / Dem recovery from Trump's Pandemic. Unless you have heard otherwise from Larry Summers, that is.
Fed cuts by a quarter point, indicates fewer reductions ahead.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/18/fed-rate-decision-december-2024-.html?__source=androidappshare
Hasn't Powell heard Larry Summers' pronouncement on this? The Fed should be as angry about the state of today's sucky economy as that relative handful of Netanyahu-hating but already regretful Muslims across just three states that "gave Trump the presidency" while Trump has also acknowledged as much. They should be lowering the Fed Funds Rate to 0% or near it to pull us out of this horrible economic downturn like they had to with at least 4 Repub presidents' economic policy results over the past 100 years!
Doesn't the Fed have access to all those lovely charts and graphs that Larry Summers and his slavish devotees refer to that prove this economy sucks because Biden's economic policy sucks?
Oh, but then there is this:
Well, we know Trump has already increased the price of imported goods and products since the election. His repeated insistence that he will add 10%-25%-200% across-the-board tariffs on so many imported goods and services "on Day One" has created uncommonly high and early retailer demand for front loading inventory that has driven container and shipping costs to increase. The higher costs of which will be passed on to the American Consumer and will absolutely positively not be paid by China, Canada, Mexico or any other countries.
Then again, until Larry Summers weighs in on it nobody really knows what to think about it.I'm about to give up Tooms. This is like arguing theology with a Southern Baptist minister.
Summers is more upset than you are about Democratic losses in the election. Furthermore, he agrees with you, and me, that if Trump does what he said he will, his policies would have the potential to be more inflationary than Biden's. Summers however notes that Trump's advisors like Bessent are very aware of and sensitive to markets, which hopefully will help save Trump from himself. You've already seen him back off on his threat to fire Jerome Powell. What Summers doesn't say, because he's a partisan Democrat like you, is that Biden's people weren't as knowledgeable about markets. His chief economic advisor was a social worker. Janet Yellen had good instincts, but the Elizabeth Warren appointees in the White House were calling the shots.
This is all in an interview of Summers by the FT's Martin Wolf last week. Summers also basically repeated my explanation to you of why Harris lost (higher prices, including increases in the cost of money). And here was his response to Wolf's contention, similar to yours, that supply shocks, shortages and the war in Ukraine were primarily responsible for inflation: "I find it surprising that people who I respect would take the position that you just laid out. I'd advise those at some distance from the debate that they may want to give more weight to the views of those who forecast inflation than to the views of those who were confident it would not take place. And were confident when it started to appear, it was only transitory. ".
You realize the reason the Dow dropped 1100 points today was because the Fed signaled it won't drop rates as quickly as many expected? And it's entirely possible part of the reason is that the Fed fears the inflationary effects of what Trump says he wants to do? Or is reacting to similar fears on the part of bond investors, who've moved yields up recently?
I'm about to give up Tooms. This is like arguing theology with a Southern Baptist minister.
Summers is more upset than you are about Democratic losses in the election. Furthermore, he agrees with you, and me, that if Trump does what he said he will, his policies would have the potential to be more inflationary than Biden's. Summers however notes that Trump's advisors like Bessent are very aware of and sensitive to markets, which hopefully will help save Trump from himself. You've already seen him back off on his threat to fire Jerome Powell. What Summers doesn't say, because he's a partisan Democrat like you, is that Biden's people weren't as knowledgeable about markets. His chief economic advisor was a social worker. Janet Yellen had good instincts, but the Elizabeth Warren appointees in the White House were calling the shots.
This is all in an interview of Summers by the FT's Martin Wolf last week. Summers also basically repeated my explanation to you of why Harris lost (higher prices, including increases in the cost of money). And here was his response to Wolf's contention, similar to yours, that supply shocks, shortages and the war in Ukraine were primarily responsible for inflation: "I find it surprising that people who I respect would take the position that you just laid out. I'd advise those at some distance from the debate that they may want to give more weight to the views of those who forecast inflation than to the views of those who were confident it would not take place. And were confident when it started to appear, it was only transitory. ".
You realize the reason the Dow dropped 1100 points today was because the Fed signaled it won't drop rates as quickly as many expected? And it's entirely possible part of the reason is that the Fed fears the inflationary effects of what Trump says he wants to do? Or is reacting to similar fears on the part of bond investors, who've moved yields up recently?Interesting that Summers' big media coverage on this comes after the election and on the world famous Martin Wolf private party club.
He probably would have gotten that message to a wider audience if YOU had bothered to mention it here before you were cornered into it. And prior to the election would have been nice.
That is quite a difference from the whirlwind media coverage good ol' Dem-partisan Larry got or apparently even tried to get in the lead up to the 2022 midterms and in the years prior to the handful of angry Muslim election of Trump last month, wouldn't you say? At one point the name "Larry Summers" was better known and repeated throughout Mainstream Media and HERE as Kamala Harris.
Of course, MSM and You were a lot more motivated and fond of posting, airing and repeating his Biden / Dem-slamming message back then.
I'm about to give up Tooms. This is like arguing theology with a Southern Baptist minister.Here is the big difference; a Southern Baptist minister has zero evidence that there is a god or that the spirit of long dead and buried Jesus Christ gives a shit about human beings or anything else on planet Earth.
By stark contrast, I have all available evidence, data and the historical record on my side proving that no Repub potus' policies and stewardship of the past 100 years produced anything but crap results vs that of, say, Jimmy Carter much less Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Joe Biden in terms of economic recovery, economic expansion and average annual jobs creation unless that Repub has also tripled the National Debt to counter the crap results of his policies and stewardship without it.
On my side of the argument, I've got every major downturn, every historic jobs destruction and none of the major economic recoveries, economic expansions and historic jobs creation for Repubs over the past 100 years vs every major economic recovery, economic expansion, historic jobs creation and none of the Great Depressions, Great Recessions or Historic Jobs Destruction for Dems.
Southern Baptists ministers only have, "oh, but look at the pretty trees. ".
The latter of which is a hell of a lot closer to the way Repubs, Bothsiders and Neithersiders argue in favor of their beloved Repubs than you probably are willing to acknowledge.
Elvis 2008
12-19-24, 13:10
I'm about to give up Tooms. This is like arguing theology with a Southern Baptist minister.LOL. I am not sure what you expected.
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/biden-lied-about-everything-philly-fed-finds-all-jobs-created-q2-were-fake
So after Biden lied about creating nearly one million jobs in 2023, his labor department lied again in Q2 2024.
And so, after it first revised the 12 months ending March 31 by 818 K, the downgrades extended into the second quarter of 2024, when the Philadelphia Fed early benchmark estimates showed that instead of the 1. 1% gain shown initially by the BLS, payroll jobs in the 50 states and the District of Columbia were actually down 0. 1%!
We do know that all the jobs reportedly "created" in the second quarter, were actually fake, there were no net jobs created at all, and in fact, the US lost jobs in Q2!
Translation: in his latest attempt to create an impression of economic growth, Biden lied about everything, again.
End of link. And keep in mind these job losses came despite record deficits with Biden creating as many bullshit federal jobs as he could.
Then you had Loony Tooms not only bragging about the great job market but saying crime was down.
That was MSNBC and the NYT blabbing about government stats that were bullshit as well. Crime was not down. The police were just not arresting criminals.
There is a great youtube video on the subject about Burlington, VT here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2lA_DsvuvY.
The title is They Ruined My Hometown. Don't Let This Happen to Yours (Burlington, VT) 🇺127480;.
You do not have to watch the whole video. The first 15 minutes with the shop keeper is enough. He describes how the homeless think stealing from his store became a right when Biden came into office. In fact, that was the real Biden strategy, using the homeless and illegals to outvote guys like the shopkeeper. This is where Democrats fall on their face with rule of law. They will make up some shit law with Trump and bend themselves all out of shape when a Congressman fucks a lying 17 year old hooker with a fake ID, both victimless crimes, but when the homeless steal, that is okay.
They will also turn a blind eye to the homeless smoking crack in front of the town's church and for some reason even in deep blue Vermont, all this criminal activity somehow is the fault of the MAGA movement and Trump.
Then you have the other alternative media site with Joe Rogan bringing on billionaire Marc Anderson who pointed out after the Obama bank reform bill, no new banks have opened. He switched from Dem to Republican after seeing Biden and the Dems wanting to control the entire AI market by having only 2 or 3 AI companies under government control. That is much like the banks today.
The merging of public and private, the use of NGOs funded by government doing things the government cannot do WAS Biden's and Obama's economic policy and just like the USSR and China, it had its early successes. At first the productive people try to make it work. But with productive people like the Vermont shopkeeper, it only works if he stays on. Once the productive people catch on they are being lied to and used, the system falls apart.
So the better question to ask Loony Tooms is how is the Biden-Obama economic policy any different than the CCP because I do not see much difference at all. With China, they are on the verge of collapse with most every productive person looking to park their capital abroad. The rich Chinese are overpaying for foreign assets just to have them outside of the greedy hands of the CCP.
As it stands now, the move of the productive from blue to red states was on. With Biden, the next phase was their moving out of the country.
When you look at shit cities like Burlington VT or San Francisco, you can only lie and blame MAGA and Trump for so long. Eventually the Democrats and their shit economic policies come home to roost.
MarquisdeSade1
12-19-24, 16:33
LOL. I am not sure what you expected.
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/biden-lied-about-everything-philly-fed-finds-all-jobs-created-q2-were-fake
So after Biden lied about creating nearly one million jobs in 2023, his labor department lied again in Q2 2024.
And so, after it first revised the 12 months ending March 31 by 818 K, the downgrades extended into the second quarter of 2024, when the Philadelphia Fed early benchmark estimates showed that instead of the 1. 1% gain shown initially by the BLS, payroll jobs in the 50 states and the District of Columbia were actually down 0. 1%!
We do know that all the jobs reportedly "created" in the second quarter, were actually fake, there were no net jobs created at all, and in fact, the US lost jobs in Q2!
Translation: in his latest attempt to create an impression of economic growth, Biden lied about everything, again.Bernie Sanders country is going red and jumping on the Trump train also.
Bernie Sanders country is going red and jumping on the Trump train also.All MAGAs aboard!
Elvis 2008
12-19-24, 19:10
Bernie Sanders country is going red and jumping on the Trump train also.The NYT story is under a paywall. It looks like Dems lost a supermajority in both chambers in Vermont but still dominate the Legislature there. https://www.sevendaysvt.com/news/democrats-on-track-to-lose-supermajority-in-legislature-42212929.
Democrats and Progressive currently hold a combined 109 seats, more than the 100 votes needed to override vetoes by Gov. Phil Scott. In the Senate, meanwhile, Democrats and Progressives currently have 23 seats.
But by the end of election night, Democrats had lost their grip in both chambers, giving Scott much more leverage. The governor, who cruised to reelection on Tuesday night, campaigned vigorously this cycle for other Republicans he said would help him bring affordability to the state.
End of link. Yeah, Vermont is moving in the right direction, but it is sad Republicans are not ruling there yet. If you watch the whole video, what really got me is how many regular citizens were scared to talk on camera about the shit conditions of Burlington. This is the Democratic douche version of justice. They can say anything about MAGA and Trump but any negatives about Democratic douches and their policies and it is misinformation that needs to be censored.
You have to wonder how many of these Democratic ciities, even smaller ones like Burlington, are this messed up. Like San Francisco, it is a beautiful city that has gone to shit.
In a secret ballot, the House Ethics Committee members, have decided to release their findings, in the Matt Gaetz, ethnics report.
Seems like there are enough Repub House Ethic Committee members, who (secretly anyways) despise Matt Gaetz, after all.
However, it's release, said to happen, just before the Christmas holidays, is the perfect timing for the Repub cowards and Gaetz sympathizers, to run-home for the holidays, and not have answer uncomfortable or difficult questions, w/r to Gaetz's pathetic nomination, should said report be demonstrably incriminating, due to Gaetz's alleged pedo, sex trafficking, drug fueled, sex parties.
Stay Tuned!
MarquisdeSade1
12-19-24, 21:22
In a secret ballot, the House Ethics Committee members, have decided to release their findings, in the Matt Gaetz, ethnics report.
Seems like there are enough Repub House Ethic Committee members, who (secretly) despise Matt Gaetz, after all.
However, it's release, just before the Christmas holidays, is the perfect timing for Repub cowards and Gaetz sympathizers, to run-home for the holidays, who shall not be answering any uncomfortable or difficult questions, w/r to Gaetz's pathetic nomination should said report be demonstrably incriminating, due to Gaetz's alleged pedo, sex trafficking, drug fueled, sex parties.
Stay Tuned!Gaetz's alleged, sex trafficking, drug fueled, sex parties.
But I'm in for the rest of it LMFAO, where do I sign up?
This is ISG after all, maybe you should get back to your nambla / feminist lesbian forums.
Gaetz for President 2028!!
In a secret ballot, the House Ethics Committee members, have decided to release their findings, in the Matt Gaetz, ethnics report.
Seems like there are enough Repub House Ethic Committee members, who (secretly anyways) despise Matt Gaetz, after all.
However, it's release, said to happen, just before the Christmas holidays, is the perfect timing for the Repub cowards and Gaetz sympathizers, to run-home for the holidays, and not have answer uncomfortable or difficult questions, w/r to Gaetz's pathetic nomination, should said report be demonstrably incriminating, due to Gaetz's alleged pedo, sex trafficking, drug fueled, sex parties.
Stay Tuned!And just when we thought Watergaetz was over! LOLOLOL!
Here is the big difference; a Southern Baptist minister has zero evidence that there is a god or that the spirit of long dead and buried Jesus Christ gives a shit about human beings or anything else on planet Earth.
By stark contrast, I have all available evidence, data and the historical record on my side proving that no Repub potus' policies and stewardship of the past 100 years produced anything but crap results vs that of, say, Jimmy Carter much less Bill Clinton, Barack Obama and Joe Biden in terms of economic recovery, economic expansion and average annual jobs creation unless that Repub has also tripled the National Debt to counter the crap results of his policies and stewardship without it.
On my side of the argument, I've got every major downturn, every historic jobs destruction and none of the major economic recoveries, economic expansions and historic jobs creation for Repubs over the past 100 years vs every major economic recovery, economic expansion, historic jobs creation and none of the Great Depressions, Great Recessions or Historic Jobs Destruction for Dems.
Southern Baptists ministers only have, "oh, but look at the pretty trees. ".
The latter of which is a hell of a lot closer to the way Repubs, Bothsiders and Neithersiders argue in favor of their beloved Repubs than you probably are willing to acknowledge.Agreed!
I'm surprised, Tiny 12, didn't again turn to Chat GTP for answers, on Southern Baptist ministerial Repubs and see a pic of the "Black Nazi" pastor, Repub Mark Robinson (NC), who denies going by the moniker "minisoldr", on the sex forum Nude Africa.
But just like Repubs caught in their own web of lies (especially since he's pulling a Trump, trying to sue the press for false claims), Robinson has now recently been seen, as logged in to a state meeting as 'minisoldr,', the very handle (in the sex forum), he claims, to know nothing about! (...kkkk!).
MarquisdeSade1
12-19-24, 23:03
Fed cuts by a quarter point, indicates fewer reductions ahead.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/18/fed-rate-decision-december-2024-.html?__source=androidappshare
Hasn't Powell heard Larry Summers' pronouncement on this? The Fed should be as angry about the state of today's sucky economy as that relative handful of Netanyahu-hating but already regretful Muslims across just three states that "gave Trump the presidency" while Trump has also acknowledged as much. They should be lowering the Fed Funds Rate to 0% or near it to pull us out of this horrible economic downturn like they had to with at least 4 Repub presidents' economic policy results over the past 100 years!
Doesn't the Fed have access to all those lovely charts and graphs that Larry Summers and his slavish devotees refer to that prove this economy sucks because Biden's economic policy sucks?
Oh, but then there is this:
Well, we know Trump has already increased the price of imported goods and products since the election. His repeated insistence that he will add 10%-25%-200% across-the-board tariffs on so many imported goods and services "on Day One" has created uncommonly high and early retailer demand for front loading inventory that has driven container and shipping costs to increase. The higher costs of which will be passed on to the American Consumer and will absolutely positively not be paid by China, Canada, Mexico or any other countries.
Then again, until Larry Summers weighs in on it nobody really knows what to think about it.https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/19/us/politics/voter-turnout-election-trump-harris.html
Change in votes compared with 2020.
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Key to Trump's Win: Heavy Losses for Harris Across the Map.
By Ashley Wu, Lazaro Gamio, Robert Gebeloff, Elena Shao and Michael see. Bender Nov. 19,2024.
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It may seem like a clear story: Donald Trump won the election by winning the most votes. He improved on his totals, adding about 2. 5 million more votes than four years ago. But just as consequential to the outcome were Kamala Harris's losses: She earned about 7 million fewer votes compared with Joseph are. Biden Jr. 's performance in 2020.
Ms. Harris failed to find new voters in three of the seven swing states and in 80 percent of counties across the country, a New York Times analysis shows. In the places where she matched or exceeded Mr. Biden's vote totals, she failed to match Mr. Trump's gains.
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We can't yet know how many Biden voters backed Mr. Trump or did not vote at all this cycle. But the decline in support for Ms. Harris in some of the country's most liberal areas is particularly notable. Compared with Mr. Biden, she lost hundreds of thousands of votes in major cities including Chicago, LOS Angeles and New York, and overall earned about 10 percent fewer votes in counties Mr. Biden won four years ago.
Mr. Trump, by contrast, found new voters in most counties, with significant gains in red states like Texas and Florida and also in blue states like New Jersey and New York.
Change in votes by county partisanship, compared with 2020.
Counties Harris Trump.
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Larry Sabato, the director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, acknowledged that Biden voters who swung toward Mr. Trump played a part in Ms. Harris's loss, but pointed to low Democratic turnout as the larger factor.
"They just weren't excited," Mr. Sabato said of Democratic voters. "They were probably disillusioned by inflation, maybe the border. And they didn't have the motivation to get up and go out to vote. ".
The national rightward shift is a continuation of voting patterns seen in the last two elections. Even in his 2020 defeat, Mr. Trump found new voters across the country. (Both parties earned more votes in 2020 than in 2016.) And although Democrats outperformed expectations in 2022, when some had predicted a "red wave," they lost many voters who were dissatisfied with rising prices, pandemic-era restrictions and immigration policy.
At the local level, three distinct patterns help illustrate the overall outcome in 2024:
1. Where both candidates gained votes, but Trump gained more.
In hard-fought Georgia, both parties found new voters, but Mr. Trump outperformed Ms. Harris. For example, in Fulton County, which contains most of Atlanta, Ms. Harris gained about 4,500 votes, but Mr. Trump gained more than 7,400.
How vote totals changed in Atlanta precincts.
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By Eli Murray, Elena Shao, Charlie Smart and Christine Zhang.
In addition to his gains in the Atlanta area, Mr. Trump won new voters in every other part of Georgia. He flipped the state back to Republicans after Mr. Biden's win there in 2020. He similarly outran Ms. Harris where she made gains in Wake County, and. See. , Lancaster County, Pa. , and Montgomery County, Texas.
2. Where Trump gained a little and Harris lost a little.
In Milwaukee County in swing-state Wisconsin, Ms. Harris lost 1,200 voters compared with Mr. Biden's total in 2020, while Mr. Trump gained more than 3,500.
How vote totals changed in Milwaukee precincts.
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By Eli Murray, Elena Shao, Charlie Smart and Christine Zhang.
Ms. Harris still won the county at large, but her margins there and in other liberal enclaves of Wisconsin were not enough to hold off Mr. Trump's victories in rural, blue-collar counties that voted Republican in 2016 and 2020.
Democrats' inability to maintain their vote totals in battleground states was also apparent in the crucial areas around Charlotte, and. See. , Flint, Mich. , and Scranton, Pa.
3. Where Trump gained a little and Harris lost a lot.
Mr. Trump won Florida's Miami-Dade County, becoming the first Republican to do so since 1988. But again, Ms. Harris's loss was just as much of the story as his gain: Mr. Trump won about 70,000 new votes in the county, while she lost nearly 140,000.
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By Eli Murray, Elena Shao, Charlie Smart and Christine Zhang.
Other counties that Mr. Trump flipped had similar vote disparities. In 21 of these 77 counties, Mr. Trump received fewer votes in this election than in 2020, but the Democratic vote drop-off was much steeper. This happened from coast to coast, from Fresno County, Calif. , to Pinellas County, Fla.
Joel Benenson, the chief pollster for Barack Obama's presidential campaigns, said he thought Democratic turnout was hurt by the party's lack of a presidential primary. (Mr. Biden dropped out of the race in July.) That process, he said, helps energize core voters who get involved with volunteering, making phone calls and knocking on doors early in the year.
"That was a real challenge for Vice President Harris, who had a short runway and would have benefited from a real primary season," Mr. Benenson said. "Republicans had a contested primary — even with a former president, they didn't just hand it to him. ".
Mr. Trump was clearly able to harness enthusiasm beyond his base. He made gains across almost all groups ranging in demographics, education and income, including those that traditionally made up the Democratic coalition. Ms. Harris failed to match Mr. Biden among the same groups.
Change in votes by county type, compared with 2020.
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–9%.
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Retirement destinations.
–2%.
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Pre-election polls showed minority voters swinging toward Mr. Trump, and he appeared to make gains with those groups. He picked up votes in majority-Hispanic counties and in Black neighborhoods of major cities, a preliminary analysis of precinct data shows. But he lost votes, as did Ms. Harris, in majority-Black counties, especially those in the South where turnout dropped overall.
Mr. Trump found new voters in more than 30 states, including in the battleground states that were the sites of robust campaigning. His gains were modest in most other places. Ms. Harris was able to improve on Mr. Biden's performance in only four of the seven battlegrounds and just five states overall.
Change in votes by state, compared with 2020.
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John McLaughlin, Mr. Trump's campaign pollster, said the campaign was focused on finding supporters who were not reliable voters and making sure they turned out to the polls. He said that internal polling showed that voters who cast a ballot in 2024 after not voting in 2022 or 2020 supported Mr. Trump, 52 percent to 46 percent.
"The strategy was very much like 2016, to bring out casual voters who thought the country was on the wrong track," Mr. McLaughlin said. "These voters blamed Biden and Harris and generally had positive approval for Trump. ".
In a secret ballot, the House Ethics Committee members, have decided to release their findings, in the Matt Gaetz, ethnics report.
Seems like there are enough Repub House Ethic Committee members, who (secretly anyways) despise Matt Gaetz, after all.
However, it's release, said to happen, just before the Christmas holidays, is the perfect timing for the Repub cowards and Gaetz sympathizers, to run-home for the holidays, and not have answer uncomfortable or difficult questions, w/r to Gaetz's pathetic nomination, should said report be demonstrably incriminating, due to Gaetz's alleged pedo, sex trafficking, drug fueled, sex parties.
Stay Tuned!I suspect the Repubs who secretly voted to release the findings on Gaetz were hoping there would be photos, videos or detailed descriptions of his dick and balls in them. From Nude Grinbitch's House under Bill Clinton, to the Repub House over the past two years and up until now and probably into the next two years, Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat Repubs were always interested in filling their few "working" days musing about and sniffing around Bill Clinton's dick and balls, Hunter Biden's dick and balls, probably Matt Gaetz' dick and balls, anybody's dick and balls will do.
But this time around Numbskull Repub President-elect Musk, Numbskull Repub President-elect Ramaswamy and Numbskull Repub President-elect Banning have pulled the ultimate Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat Repub stunt in demanding the USA government of, by and for the American people be shutdown rather than fund Cancer Research for American children instead of plowing all the additional Trillions in deficit spending they plan to add during their presidencies giving more tax breaks to Musk, Ramaswamy and other billionaires. Makes sense.
Why doesn't the now but set to shrink even further Repub Pink Tinkle in the House call an emergency vote to elect Elon, Vivek or Steve as the first ever Speaker of the House AND President-elect so any one of them can call the shots all the way around?
The Repubs are going to need any extra hands they can scrounge up on a gavel, their dicks and balls, wherever in order to get those additional Trillions in deficit-spending never-paid-for Repub tax cuts for Elon, Vivek and their fellow billionaire cronies:
Rep. Spartz wont caucus with GOP, narrowing Republican margin in House
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-spartz-won-t-caucus-171900676.html
The ugly GOP math is even worse than it seems because scandal-tarred ex-Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Florida, already resigned his seat and has said he wont rejoin the new Congress in January.
Two more lawmakers, Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-New York, and Rep. Mike Waltz, R-Florida, are expected to step down after Trump takes office on Jan. 20 because they are expected to be confirmed to Cabinet posts.
That means House Speaker Mike Johnson could find himself with just a 216-215 edge for at least several weeks until special elections can be held for what he hopes will be Republican replacements to take up those vacant seats.MAGAs, Bothsider / Neithersiders and most especially that relative handful of angry Muslims in those three decisive states who specifically "gave the presidency" to, well, now to Musk, Ramaswamy and Banning, The Kremlin, China and North Korea thank you for your votes.
The Musk / Ramawamy / Banning Train Has Left The Station!
MarquisdeSade1
12-20-24, 13:31
The NYT story is under a paywall. It looks like Dems lost a supermajority in both chambers in Vermont but still dominate the Legislature there. https://www.sevendaysvt.com/news/democrats-on-track-to-lose-supermajority-in-legislature-42212929.
Democrats and Progressive currently hold a combined 109 seats, more than the 100 votes needed to override vetoes by Gov. Phil Scott. In the Senate, meanwhile, Democrats and Progressives currently have 23 seats.
But by the end of election night, Democrats had lost their grip in both chambers, giving Scott much more leverage. The governor, who cruised to reelection on Tuesday night, campaigned vigorously this cycle for other Republicans he said would help him bring affordability to the state.
End of link. Yeah, Vermont is moving in the right direction, but it is sad Republicans are not ruling there yet. If you watch the whole video, what really got me is how many regular citizens were scared to talk on camera about the shit conditions of Burlington. This is the Democratic douche version of justice. They can say anything about MAGA and Trump but any negatives about Democratic douches and their policies and it is misinformation that needs to be censored.
You have to wonder how many of these Democratic ciities, even smaller ones like Burlington, are this messed up. Like San Francisco, it is a beautiful city that has gone to shit.I know people that live there that say its a dystopian hellhole, and yes they are Democrats.
I wouldn't go there anymore if you paid me!! Same with Seattle, the downside they will be leaving to move to sane red states and they will fuck them up also.
No different than inner city dirtbags that move out of cities to suburbs only to decimate them too, they destroy everything they touch!!
I used to see bumper stickers in Portland please don't Californicate Portland.
Or yard signs Californians please stay out!! And these are not MAGA voters.
But hey things are looking up here in Chicago we just got rid of Soros non prosecuting prosecutor Kim Fox and we voted in Eva Brauns protege'.
https://kfoxtv.com/news/nation-world/almost-100-murder-suspects-in-chicago-allowed-to-stay-out-of-jail-under-house-arrest-cook-county-violent-crime-criminals-sheriff-tom-dart-pretrial-program
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/opinion/west-coast-liberal-failure.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/15/opinion/progressives-california-portland.html
Gaetz's alleged, sex trafficking, drug fueled, sex parties.
But I'm in for the rest of it LMFAO, where do I sign up?
This is ISG after all, maybe you should get back to your nambla / feminist lesbian forums.
Gaetz for President 2028!!(...kkkk) Contrary to popular opinion, I couldn't care less, as to how messed up, coked up, fucked up, or teen bum fucked, Gaetz wants to get at one of his drug fueled sex trafficking parties.
It still stands that his nomination for AG was just horrific, a very simple vetting or independent background check would have eliminated all the hoopla.
But if you're saying, Gaetz for President Dog Catcher in 2028, that would still be a big fat HELL NO!
BTW, whether you as an atheist, believe in HELL or not, I'm pretty sure, on more than one occasion, you yourself, have told us, there IS A HELL for pedos!
But this time around Numbskull Repub President-elect Musk, Numbskull Repub President-elect Ramaswamy and Numbskull Repub President-elect Banning have pulled the ultimate Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat Repub stunt in demanding the USA government of, by and for the American people be shutdown rather than fund Cancer Research for American children instead of plowing all the additional Trillions in deficit spending they plan to add during their presidencies giving more tax breaks to Musk, Ramaswamy and other billionaires. Makes sense.
Why doesn't the now but set to shrink even further Repub Pink Tinkle in the House call an emergency vote to elect Elon, Vivek or Steve as the first ever Speaker of the House AND President-elect so any one of them can call the shots all the way around?
The Repubs are going to need any extra hands they can scrounge up on a gavel, their dicks and balls, wherever in order to get those additional Trillions in deficit-spending never-paid-for Repub tax cuts for Elon, Vivek and their fellow billionaire cronies:
Rep. Spartz wont caucus with GOP, narrowing Republican margin in House
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-spartz-won-t-caucus-171900676.htmlOh Yes! The 118th Congress led Repub clown show, is now poised to end, not with a bang, but as a Mike Johnson, christofascist whimper and a snivel. All ineptitude, buffoonery and clowning, duly predicated on and derived from the Kevin McCarthy, 15th ballot "shit show horse", Repubs rode in on.
Excellent question you pose! Will it be President-elect Musk, numbskull Repub President-elect Ramaswamy, or President-elect Trump? Or will Musk, just be a "Shadow" President and form his own "Shadow Gov't"? House Repubs, certainly liked him for Speaker of the House, which doesn't bode well for the current christofascist speaker. As all signs point to the fact, he maybe very well be on his way out.
But Yeah...the Trump/MAGA chaos, dysfunction and gov't paralysis is back!
BTW, does that mean the kids get the proverbial, "lumps of coal" for Christmas?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/11/19/us/politics/voter-turnout-election-trump-harris.html
Change in votes compared with 2020.
2. 5 million.
More votes.
For Trump.
7. 1 million.
Fewer votes for.
Harris than Biden.
Key to Trump's Win: Heavy Losses for Harris Across the Map.
By Ashley Wu, Lazaro Gamio, Robert Gebeloff, Elena Shao and Michael see. Bender Nov. 19,2024.
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It may seem like a clear story: Donald Trump won the election by winning the most votes. He improved on his totals, adding about 2. 5 million more votes than four years ago. But just as consequential to the outcome were Kamala Harris's losses: She earned about 7 million fewer votes compared with Joseph are. Biden Jr. 's performance in 2020.
Ms. Harris failed to find new voters in three of the seven swing states and in 80 percent of counties across the country, a New York Times analysis shows. In the places where she matched or exceeded Mr. Biden's vote totals, she failed to match Mr. Trump's gains.
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We can't yet know how many Biden voters backed Mr. Trump or did not vote at all this cycle. But the decline in support for Ms. Harris in some of the country's most liberal areas is particularly notable. Compared with Mr. Biden, she lost hundreds of thousands of votes in major cities including Chicago, LOS Angeles and New York, and overall earned about 10 percent fewer votes in counties Mr. Biden won four years ago.
Mr. Trump, by contrast, found new voters in most counties, with significant gains in red states like Texas and Florida and also in blue states like New Jersey and New York.
Change in votes by county partisanship, compared with 2020.
Counties Harris Trump.
Heavily Democratic.
12%.
+3%.
Moderately Democratic.
10%.
+3%.
Lean Democratic.
6%.
+3%.
Lean Republican.
6%.
+4%.
Moderately Republican.
5%.
+3%.
Heavily Republican.
2%.
+4%.
Larry Sabato, the director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, acknowledged that Biden voters who swung toward Mr. Trump played a part in Ms. Harris's loss, but pointed to low Democratic turnout as the larger factor.
"They just weren't excited," Mr. Sabato said of Democratic voters. "They were probably disillusioned by inflation, maybe the border. And they didn't have the motivation to get up and go out to vote. ".
The national rightward shift is a continuation of voting patterns seen in the last two elections. Even in his 2020 defeat, Mr. Trump found new voters across the country. (Both parties earned more votes in 2020 than in 2016.) And although Democrats outperformed expectations in 2022, when some had predicted a "red wave," they lost many voters who were dissatisfied with rising prices, pandemic-era restrictions and immigration policy.
At the local level, three distinct patterns help illustrate the overall outcome in 2024:
1. Where both candidates gained votes, but Trump gained more.
In hard-fought Georgia, both parties found new voters, but Mr. Trump outperformed Ms. Harris. For example, in Fulton County, which contains most of Atlanta, Ms. Harris gained about 4,500 votes, but Mr. Trump gained more than 7,400.
How vote totals changed in Atlanta precincts.
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Buckhead.
Forest Park.
Smyrna.
Marietta.
Alpharetta.
Decatur.
East Point.
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Atlanta.
Buckhead.
Forest Park.
Smyrna.
Marietta.
Alpharetta.
Decatur.
East Point.
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In addition to his gains in the Atlanta area, Mr. Trump won new voters in every other part of Georgia. He flipped the state back to Republicans after Mr. Biden's win there in 2020. He similarly outran Ms. Harris where she made gains in Wake County, and. See. , Lancaster County, Pa. , and Montgomery County, Texas.
2. Where Trump gained a little and Harris lost a little.
In Milwaukee County in swing-state Wisconsin, Ms. Harris lost 1,200 voters compared with Mr. Biden's total in 2020, while Mr. Trump gained more than 3,500.
How vote totals changed in Milwaukee precincts.
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Cudahy.
Greenfield.
Wauwatosa.
West Allis.
Shorewood.
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Lake Michigan.
Whitefish Bay.
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Cudahy.
Greenfield.
Wauwatosa.
West Allis.
Shorewood.
East Side.
Lake Michigan.
Whitefish Bay.
By Eli Murray, Elena Shao, Charlie Smart and Christine Zhang.
Ms. Harris still won the county at large, but her margins there and in other liberal enclaves of Wisconsin were not enough to hold off Mr. Trump's victories in rural, blue-collar counties that voted Republican in 2016 and 2020.
Democrats' inability to maintain their vote totals in battleground states was also apparent in the crucial areas around Charlotte, and. See. , Flint, Mich. , and Scranton, Pa.
3. Where Trump gained a little and Harris lost a lot.
Mr. Trump won Florida's Miami-Dade County, becoming the first Republican to do so since 1988. But again, Ms. Harris's loss was just as much of the story as his gain: Mr. Trump won about 70,000 new votes in the county, while she lost nearly 140,000.
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Hialeah.
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By Eli Murray, Elena Shao, Charlie Smart and Christine Zhang.
Other counties that Mr. Trump flipped had similar vote disparities. In 21 of these 77 counties, Mr. Trump received fewer votes in this election than in 2020, but the Democratic vote drop-off was much steeper. This happened from coast to coast, from Fresno County, Calif. , to Pinellas County, Fla.
Joel Benenson, the chief pollster for Barack Obama's presidential campaigns, said he thought Democratic turnout was hurt by the party's lack of a presidential primary. (Mr. Biden dropped out of the race in July.) That process, he said, helps energize core voters who get involved with volunteering, making phone calls and knocking on doors early in the year.
"That was a real challenge for Vice President Harris, who had a short runway and would have benefited from a real primary season," Mr. Benenson said. "Republicans had a contested primary even with a former president, they didn't just hand it to him. ".
Mr. Trump was clearly able to harness enthusiasm beyond his base. He made gains across almost all groups ranging in demographics, education and income, including those that traditionally made up the Democratic coalition. Ms. Harris failed to match Mr. Biden among the same groups.
Change in votes by county type, compared with 2020.
Counties Harris Trump.
Majority Black.
12%.
4%.
Majority Hispanic.
18%.
+7%.
Urban.
12%.
+3%.
High income.
9%.
+3%.
Highly educated.
9%.
+3%.
Retirement destinations.
2%.
+8%.
Pre-election polls showed minority voters swinging toward Mr. Trump, and he appeared to make gains with those groups. He picked up votes in majority-Hispanic counties and in Black neighborhoods of major cities, a preliminary analysis of precinct data shows. But he lost votes, as did Ms. Harris, in majority-Black counties, especially those in the South where turnout dropped overall.
Mr. Trump found new voters in more than 30 states, including in the battleground states that were the sites of robust campaigning. His gains were modest in most other places. Ms. Harris was able to improve on Mr. Biden's performance in only four of the seven battlegrounds and just five states overall.
Change in votes by state, compared with 2020.
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Georgia.
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+8%.
Michigan.
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+6%.
North Carolina.
+1%.
+5%.
Nevada.
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+12%.
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1%.
+5%.
Wisconsin.
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John McLaughlin, Mr. Trump's campaign pollster, said the campaign was focused on finding supporters who were not reliable voters and making sure they turned out to the polls. He said that internal polling showed that voters who cast a ballot in 2024 after not voting in 2022 or 2020 supported Mr. Trump, 52 percent to 46 percent.
"The strategy was very much like 2016, to bring out casual voters who thought the country was on the wrong track," Mr. McLaughlin said. "These voters blamed Biden and Harris and generally had positive approval for Trump. ".This was as of 2-3 days ago. But a few votes up or down here and there since then won't change the reality of this much if at all.
Scroll down to Results.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election
Pennsylvania:
3,543,308 votes for Trump.
3,423,042 votes for Harris.
Trump advantage in PA was 120,226 votes or 1. 7 point more.
Michigan:
2,816,636 votes for Trump.
2,736,533 votes for Harris.
Trump advantage in MI was 80,103 or 1. 4 point more.
Wisconsin:
1,697,626 votes for Trump.
1,668,229 votes for Harris.
Trump advantage in MI was 29,397 votes or 0. 9 point.
Total advantage for Trump in PA, MI and WI was 229,726 votes.
If half of those 229,729 voters had been convinced to vote for Harris instead of Trump in those three Battleground / Swing States where each candidate went to battle to swing votes to them by campaigning and ad buys more than any other three states, approximately 114,864 votes (or 0. 9 point, 0. 7 point and 0. 5 point), plus one additional vote in each of the three states = 114,867, Kamala Harris would be the President-election today instead of Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy and Steve Bannon and none of those other demographics you cited above would have changed it or mattered.
There are hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters in those three decisive states. Both nominees worked to win their votes because they knew that demo could be the decisive one. The Muslim Community leaders in those states mobilized and applied every Ground Game tactic to convince their community to deny Harris the presidency because they were angry, Netanyahu-haters who extrapolated the Biden Administration's support for Israel in the conflict with Gaza as support for Netanyahu.
It is almost impossible to imagine that at least 114,867 of those hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters in those three states did not follow their Leadership's requests.
That is the demo that "gave the presidency" to, well, now to Musk, Ramaswamy and Bannon in the only three states necessary for them to do it. They have claimed that as their doing. Trump has acknowledged their incomparable contribution to giving the presidency to, well, now Musk, Ramaswamy and Bannon.
The Kremlin, China, North Korea and, oh that's right, Iran thank you for your and their vote.
Well, unless you are an angry Muslim in one of those three states that voted for Trump instead of Harris, The Kremlin, China, North Korea and Iran can only thank you for giving Trump 1. 47 point more votes than Harris nationally, although not the Majority of the Vote.
The Trump Train. Er, I mean Musk / Ramaswamy / Bannon Train:
Elvis 2008
12-20-24, 17:38
Contrary to popular opinion, I couldn't care less, as to how messed up, coked up, fucked up, or teen bum fucked, Gaetz wants to get at one of his drug fueled sex trafficking parties.Yeah, you no longer live in the USA. If you did, you would not want Gaetz disqualified for personal reasons. Namely you are a horndog monger. With your being out of the country, all you care about is your social security check.
It still stands that his nomination for AG was just horrific, a very simple vetting or independent background check would have eliminated all the hoopla.Ah yes, it is so simple. Nothing like a monger criticizing a guy who banged a lying 17 year old hooker with a fake ID. And why are YOU not worried about that? Oh right. You no longer live here. You do not care about the laws of the USA and what it is like to live there. All you care about is your check.
If this were a moral crusade and you were not such a partisan Democratic douche, you would be holding the Bidens and Clintons to the same standards. Instead you play your moronic partisan games. Gaetz was as bad as Epstien. Hunter bravely stood trial. Give me a fucking break. Gaetz was not convicted. Hunter was. Biden abused the legal system so much the woman who accused him of raping her is in Russia. His own daughter wrote in her diary that Joe Biden was showering with her in her teen years. The hair sniffing Joe Biden is a fucking perv, and everyone knows it.
Why do you push the abortion and IVF issue so badly Soy Boy? Oh right, I forgot. You do not live her. I am all for women's rights as long as that helps me get my fucking check.
If you did live here, you would want a Gaetz, a guy who hobbied but stayed in the gray areas of the law. Why is it so black and white for you? Because you do not live here and just want your check.
With you and Loony Tooms, I think we should actually start means testing guys with social security payouts. Why should you get the full amount if you live abroad and expenses are cheaper? Hey, let's cut off payments if any social security recepient is banging foreign hookers. Oh yeah, you two are so fucking moral and law abiding. Would you be for that?
The difference between Dems and Republicans is Republicans pay for their own hookers. Dems like Willie Brown, Fani Willis, and Bill Clinton use public funds to pay the people they sleep with. Hunter used bribes meant for his father to pay for his hoors. I guess you are one in the same Spidy: letting government pay for yours too. Keep patting yourself on the back and telling the world what a moral good boy you are.
I cannot believe a monger like yourself could be such a hypocrite and criticize Gaetz. He is the exact kind of AG mongers should want, you fool.
MarquisdeSade1
12-20-24, 20:03
This was as of 2-3 days ago. But a few votes up or down here and there since then won't change the reality of this much if at all.
Scroll down to Results.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election
Pennsylvania:
3,543,308 votes for Trump.
3,423,042 votes for Harris.
Trump advantage in PA was 120,226 votes or 1. 7 point more.
Michigan:
2,816,636 votes for Trump.
2,736,533 votes for Harris.
Trump advantage in MI was 80,103 or 1. 4 point more.
Wisconsin:
1,697,626 votes for Trump.
1,668,229 votes for Harris.
Trump advantage in MI was 29,397 votes or 0. 9 point.
Total advantage for Trump in PA, MI and WI was 229,726 votes.
If half of those 229,729 voters had been convinced to vote for Harris instead of Trump in those three Battleground / Swing States where each candidate went to battle to swing votes to them by campaigning and ad buys more than any other three states, approximately 114,864 votes (or 0. 9 point, 0. 7 point and 0. 5 point), plus one additional vote in each of the three states = 114,867, Kamala Harris would be the President-election today instead of Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy and Steve Bannon and none of those other demographics you cited above would have changed it or mattered.
There are hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters in those three decisive states. Both nominees worked to win their votes because they knew that demo could be the decisive one. The Muslim Community leaders in those states mobilized and applied every Ground Game tactic to convince their community to deny Harris the presidency because they were angry, Netanyahu-haters who extrapolated the Biden Administration's support for Israel in the conflict with Gaza as support for Netanyahu.
It is almost impossible to imagine that at least 114,867 of those hundreds of thousands of Muslim voters in those three states did not follow their Leadership's requests.
That is the demo that "gave the presidency" to, well, now to Musk, Ramaswamy and Bannon in the only three states necessary for them to do it. They have claimed that as their doing. Trump has acknowledged their incomparable contribution to giving the presidency to, well, now Musk, Ramaswamy and Bannon.
The Kremlin, China, North Korea and, oh that's right, Iran thank you for your and their vote.
Well, unless you are an angry Muslim in one of those three states that voted for Trump instead of Harris, The Kremlin, China, North Korea and Iran can only thank you for giving Trump 1. 47 point more votes than Harris nationally, although not the Majority of the Vote.
The Trump Train. Er, I mean Musk / Ramaswamy / Bannon Train:I don't agree with your nonsensical post as usual, she was never holding the entire blue wall LMAO she couldn't even hold one of the states.
Of 7 swing states? How many did she win ZERO! He took every single one of them which makes your post that much, more ridiculous.
But if if if if if if if if.
MarquisdeSade1
12-20-24, 20:06
(...kkkk) Contrary to popular opinion, I couldn't care less, as to how messed up, coked up, fucked up, or teen bum fucked, Gaetz wants to get at one of his drug fueled sex trafficking parties.
It still stands that his nomination for AG was just horrific, a very simple vetting or independent background check would have eliminated all the hoopla.
But if you're saying, Gaetz for President Dog Catcher in 2028, that would still be a big fat HELL NO!
BTW, whether you as an atheist, believe in HELL or not, I'm pretty sure, on more than one occasion, you yourself, have told us, there IS A HELL for pedos!That you'll be going there!!
Just Remember Roevember!
MarquisdeSade1
12-20-24, 22:37
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/deport-the-pandas/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=blog-post&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=top-bar-latest&utm_term=fifth
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Giant male panda Xiao Liwu eats a meal of bamboo at the San Diego Zoo in San Diego, Calif. , April 18,2019.
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The New York Times has a big report up today on how the Chinese Communist Party has used panda bears to gain favor and influence with local American officials, including San Francisco mayor London Breed.
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"Her city's zoo was faltering," Mara Hvistendahl, Heather Knight, and Vik Jolly write. "Tourism was suffering and Breed faced a tough re-election campaign. ".
Mayor Breed therefore decided to carry out months of negotiations with Beijing, all without the help of USA Counterintelligence agencies who could have helped protect her, in an effort to curry favor with the highest levels of the Chinese Communist Party. Breed visited China, meeting with its vice president and deputy foreign minister. She traveled with Chinese-government-aligned journalists. And she cultivated a relationship with the "Chinese People's Association for Friendship with Foreign Countries," a Chinese Communist Party–aligned foreign-influence organization that has about as Orwellian a name as could be thought of.
What was the Chinese bargaining chip? Ailuropoda melanoleuca a. K. a. The Giant Panda.
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More specifically, the peculiar American obsession with those cuddly looking but very nefarious beasts.
"A pair of pandas from China would be a political and public relations win" for London Breed, the Times writes dryly.
Americans should make no mistake: Panda diplomacy — I. E. , the effort by your local zoo to put a panda in a cage in your hometown — is a communist influence operation that uses Americans' emotions, love of animals, and their goodwill against them.
As the Times reports, "Chinese officials have sought to use pandas to cultivate relationships, shape policy on Taiwan and soften China's image abroad, a major goal of Mr. Xi. Panda exchanges provide Chinese leaders with rare, high-profile opportunities to rebrand their country. ".
Oh, but surely — skeptics might say — this doesn't have any real-world implications? Small-bit American politicians such as London Breed might embarrass themselves by groveling to Xi Jinping to get a panda or two, but what's the harm?
Well. . .
During panda negotiations with Omaha and with Oakland in the mid-2000's, Chinese diplomats tried to scuttle a Nebraskan trade deal with Taiwan and to persuade a California congresswoman to stop criticizing Beijing, negotiators for the American side said. When those efforts failed, China denied pandas to both cities.
And:
In 2022, the American director of national intelligence warned statehouses and city halls that China had "stepped up its efforts to cultivate USA State and local leaders in a strategy some have described as 'using the local to surround the central. '" Intelligence officials cited the friendship group as part of that effort.
Why should we doubt that the Chinese Communist Party — which never told the truth about the origins of the Covid pandemic and is currently busy hacking into American telecom systems, running a massive influence op on Americans via TikTok, crushing the last vestiges of liberty in Hong Kong, ruling a slave state in Xinjiang province with an iron fist, and arming itself to the teeth in preparation for war against the United States and Taiwan — would shrink from using pandas as a tool for national power?
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And let us dispense with the idea that while "panda diplomacy" might be bad for America, it's at least good for the pandas. It's not!
Pandas are the face of wildlife conservation. Zoos pay about $1 million a year to rent them from China and breed them in captivity, in hopes that pandas will someday be released into the wild. China is supposed to use the money to protect the wild species.
But a New York Times investigation this year revealed that after three decades, China has actually captured more pandas than it has released. And aggressive artificial breeding has injured and even killed pandas. China has steered millions of dollars toward building infrastructure such as apartments and roads as American zoo administrators and regulators looked the other way.
It's long past time to put a stop to this evil game. The importation of pandas has never done anything but weaken America and cozy our people up to the communist dictatorship in Beijing — a dictatorship that wishes for nothing but our ruin and which has the blood of hundreds of millions on its hands.
Should a free, democratic China on the mainland ever exist, all Americans would be happy to welcome pandas back to our lands.
But until then, we should put an end to "Panda Diplomacy. " Put an end to the subversion of America that has been propagated via the cuddly paws of those white-and-black spooks.
Deport the commie spies. Deport the pandas.
LOL. I am not sure what you expected.
https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/biden-lied-about-everything-philly-fed-finds-all-jobs-created-q2-were-fake
So after Biden lied about creating nearly one million jobs in 2023, his labor department lied again in Q2 2024.
And so, after it first revised the 12 months ending March 31 by 818 K, the downgrades extended into the second quarter of 2024, when the Philadelphia Fed early benchmark estimates showed that instead of the 1. 1% gain shown initially by the BLS, payroll jobs in the 50 states and the District of Columbia were actually down 0. 1%!
We do know that all the jobs reportedly "created" in the second quarter, were actually fake, there were no net jobs created at all, and in fact, the US lost jobs in Q2!
Translation: in his latest attempt to create an impression of economic growth, Biden lied about everything, again.
End of link. And keep in mind these job losses came despite record deficits with Biden creating as many bullshit federal jobs as he could.
Then you had Loony Tooms not only bragging about the great job market but saying crime was down.Yes Elvis, this is common knowledge, the downward revisions in employment numbers and the high % of "jobs added" that were government workers. It's also common knowledge that inflation and higher interest rates hurt Democrats in last month's election. Don't expect Tooms to appreciate that though. He grabs onto every data point that supports Democrats and discards every one that doesn't. He's hung his hat on spurious correlations between employment, GDP growth, and the party of the president. As such, it wasn't an uncontrollable Chinese virus that caused the pandemic and the related recession, it was Trump. I imagine he'd blame the 1980 recession during Carter's term on high oil prices. And totally ignore the effect of oil price on recessions in 1981 (starting six months after Carter left office) and 1990, when Reagan and GHW Bush were president.
So don't sweat silly factors like demographics, changes in technology, globalization, the business cycle, Fed policy, what's happening in the rest of the world outside the USA, wars, commodity price shocks, Congress, or pandemics. All you have to remember is God hates Republican presidents!
The merging of public and private, the use of NGOs funded by government doing things the government cannot do WAS Biden's and Obama's economic policy and just like the USSR and China, it had its early successes. At first the productive people try to make it work. But with productive people like the Vermont shopkeeper, it only works if he stays on. Once the productive people catch on they are being lied to and used, the system falls apart.
So the better question to ask Loony Tooms is how is the Biden-Obama economic policy any different than the CCP because I do not see much difference at all. With China, they are on the verge of collapse with most every productive person looking to park their capital abroad. The rich Chinese are overpaying for foreign assets just to have them outside of the greedy hands of the CCP.
As it stands now, the move of the productive from blue to red states was on. With Biden, the next phase was their moving out of the country.
When you look at shit cities like Burlington VT or San Francisco, you can only lie and blame MAGA and Trump for so long. Eventually the Democrats and their shit economic policies come home to roost.
I was prepared to leave in the event Democrats swept the 2024 elections and took complete control of the federal government. Things didn't get extremely bad, except for the deficit spending and inflation in 2021 and 2022. But with rational moderates like Sinema and Manchin becoming increasingly rare in the Democratic Party, it's going to be a whole different world if the current breed of Democrats take control and hold if for 10 or 20 years. The USA will become Sirioja's wet dream. France on Steroids.
I did watch the first 15 minutes of the video. I felt sorry for the Lebanese businessman. He pays a million a year in property taxes and can't get the police to show up. I'm sure Elizabeth Warren would say he doesn't pay his fair share.
There is a great youtube video on the subject about Burlington, VT here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2lA_DsvuvY.
The title is They Ruined My Hometown. Don't Let This Happen to Yours (Burlington, VT) 🇺127480;.
You do not have to watch the whole video. The first 15 minutes with the shop keeper is enough. He describes how the homeless think stealing from his store became a right when Biden came into office. In fact, that was the real Biden strategy, using the homeless and illegals to outvote guys like the shopkeeper. This is where Democrats fall on their face with rule of law. They will make up some shit law with Trump and bend themselves all out of shape when a Congressman fucks a lying 17 year old hooker with a fake ID, both victimless crimes, but when the homeless steal, that is okay.
They will also turn a blind eye to the homeless smoking crack in front of the town's church and for some reason even in deep blue Vermont, all this criminal activity somehow is the fault of the MAGA movement and Trump.
I know people that live there (Portland, Oregon) that say its a dystopian hellhole, and yes they are Democrats.
I wouldn't go there anymore if you paid me!! Same with Seattle, the downside they will be leaving to move to sane red states and they will fuck them up also.
No different than inner city dirtbags that move out of cities to suburbs only to decimate them too, they destroy everything they touch!!
I used to see bumper stickers in Portland please don't Californicate Portland.
Or yard signs Californians please stay out!! And these are not MAGA voters.
But hey things are looking up here in Chicago we just got rid of Soros non prosecuting prosecutor Kim Fox and we voted in Eva Brauns protege'.
https://kfoxtv.com/news/nation-world/almost-100-murder-suspects-in-chicago-allowed-to-stay-out-of-jail-under-house-arrest-cook-county-violent-crime-criminals-sheriff-tom-dart-pretrial-program
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/opinion/west-coast-liberal-failure.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/15/opinion/progressives-california-portland.html
Bernie Sanders country is going red and jumping on the Trump train also.I wake up every morning and thank God I've lived in a red city in a red county in a red state. Republicans are so much more efficient at administering local government than Progressives. Elvis, I'm not sure what part of the Great State you live in, but there are certain red towns in Texas that are completely surrounded by blue cities. Dallas and Highland Park come to mind. Property values are much higher in the red towns, in part because of more effective city government and policing, and better quality schools.
Yes Elvis, this is common knowledge, the downward revisions in employment numbers and the high % of "jobs added" that were government workers. It's also common knowledge that inflation and higher interest rates hurt Democrats in last month's election. Don't expect Tooms to appreciate that though. He grabs onto every data point that supports Democrats and discards every one that doesn't. He's hung his hat on spurious correlations between employment, GDP growth, and the party of the president. As such, it wasn't an uncontrollable Chinese virus that caused the pandemic and the related recession, it was Trump. I imagine he'd blame the 1980 recession during Carter's term on high oil prices. And totally ignore the effect of oil price on recessions in 1981 (starting six months after Carter left office) and 1990, when Reagan and GHW Bush were president.
So don't sweat silly factors like demographics, changes in technology, globalization, the business cycle, Fed policy, what's happening in the rest of the world outside the USA, wars, commodity price shocks, Congress, or pandemics. All you have to remember is God hates Republican presidents!
I was prepared to leave in the event Democrats swept the 2024 elections and took complete control of the federal government. Things didn't get extremely bad, except for the deficit spending and inflation in 2021 and 2022. But with rational moderates like Sinema and Manchin becoming increasingly rare in the Democratic Party, it's going to be a whole different world if the current breed of Democrats take control and hold if for 10 or 20 years. The USA will become Sirioja's wet dream. France on Steroids.
I did watch the first 15 minutes of the video. I felt sorry for the Lebanese businessman. He pays a million a year in property taxes and can't get the police to show up. I'm sure Elizabeth Warren would say he doesn't pay his fair share.It was an uncontrollable Chinese virus that caused a pandemic, made uncontrollable by January 2020 due to Donald Trump defundung and removing the highly touted and effective Pandemic Prevention team leadership from those Chinese labs several months earlier contrary to all expert warnings for him not to do something so dangerous and stupid.
"Defund the Police" is a demand of several Repub leaders and has been for years, even Trump through his nominee for Director of the Federal Police. I never heard a Dem leader demanding such a thing.
Carter's historically great Fed Chairman appointee, Paul Volcker, clearly stated and identified why he was raising Fed Funds rates in order to reduce inflation and cool down an overheated economy that was creating too many jobs for applicants to take them. Not much to do with the high gas prices and gas lines Carter inherited from Nixon / Ford's Arab Oil Embargo.
And that purposely and strategically induced mini recession that barely counted as a recession was finished by mid 1980, months before Reagan took office. You're a big fan of NBER on the issue of recessions, right? Look it up.
As was the rise of inflation reversing to a steady, almost month over month decline in Inflation and reduction in the Fed Funds rates, thanks to Carter's Fed Chairman appointee, beginning many months before Reagan took office.
We had pretty high prices for gas under Joe Biden for a while. But no recession. Not even a mini one like was purposely induced under Carter where the unemployment rate spiked up to about 7. 8% for single month before steadily declining, much less a Great Recession where it spiked up to 14%, as it did under Trump or those 10 whopping consecutive months of 10% plus unemployment rates that started during Reagan's 2nd year in office or the ridiculously low jobs creation under GHW Bush.
Under Biden the unemployment rate never exceeded upward to even 4. 5% since his policies were put into the system in mid 2021. And his historic record of new jobs created exceeds that of all three of the previous Repub presidents combined along with a sizable portion of the 4th previous one even if a downward adjustment of 1 million was made over time.
Weird, huh? Just more wild coincidences that seem only to plague Repub presidents' policies and stewardship and benefit Dem presidents' policies and stewardship I guess.
There are a couple of reasons the vast majority of American Workers live and work in Dem Cities and Dem States; that is where the jobs and the good life in America is.
Why did U.S. homicides spike in 2020 and then decline rapidly in 2023 and 2024?
New evidence and solutions to prevent future violence in U.S. cities.
DECEMBER 16, 2024
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-did-u-s-homicides-spike-in-2020-and-then-decline-rapidly-in-2023-and-2024/
Homicide, Most Other Violent Crimes Drop to Pre-Pandemic Levels in U.S. Cities.
JULY 25, 2024
https://counciloncj.org/homicide-most-other-violent-crimes-drop-to-pre-pandemic-levels-in-u-s-cities/
New data shows violent crime dropping sharply in major U.S. cities.
AUGUST 12, 2024
https://www.axios.com/2024/08/12/violent-crime-harris-trump-election
Red States Have Higher Gun Death Rates Than Blue States. Heres Why.
April 28, 2023
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/04/28/red-states-have-higher-gun-death-rates-than-blue-states-heres-why/
Republicans claim Democrats cant keep us safe crime data disagrees.
Studies show that states with higher murder rates are those that vote red even as conservatives stoke fear about crime.
June 28, 2023
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/30/murder-rates-democrat-republican-states-gun-control
Can't those Repub governors control the per capita murder and crime rates in their States' most populated and important cities? Are they just Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeats regarding the vast majority of people, workers and tax-payers living in their State?
Shameful.
Tooms and Xpartan, You will never achieve true enlightenment until you learn to love Republicans. And Marquis, you must learn to love the Chinese. And the moderate Democrats. For until that happens you will live in ignorance and hatred. Learn how to love, and you shall see the Light. And the darkness shall be lifted from your hearts.
There is no need however to admonish you, Marquis, to love the Progressive Democrats, for you are one.
Buddha TinyOh kumbaya! Tiny says all we need is a huge amount of love! Ahahaha! What we all need for Christmas is love sayeth Tiny LOL!
https://youtu.be/rYaIWbhKQsI?si=_a-vVPni4SFmStSu
Elvis 2008
12-21-24, 20:05
There are a couple of reasons the vast majority of American Workers live and work in Dem Cities and Dem States; that is where the jobs and the good life in America is.
Can't those Repub governors control the per capita murder and crime rates in their States' most populated and important cities? Are they just Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeats regarding the vast majority of people, workers and tax-payers living in their State?
Shameful.Here we have some Democratic douche in Thailand telling us how things are in the USA. Yes, Salt Lake City and Des Moines are not safe; you had best live in Harlem, South Chicago, and South Phily.
Of course, it really shows Loony Tooms is a racist. The Democratic douches said black and white could not be used to distinguigh thing but last I checked you could not change the color of your skin. However, red and blue is cool because if you choose to vote blue, although no one really knows if you did, your IQ soars as does your immune system when it comes to fighting Covid, and you live in crime free paradises. The douches cannot figure out why anyone could be opposed to voting blue then. They point to the NYT and say, "Well, THEY said it is true. ".
Of course, the whole thing could come down to the equation, if A=be and be=see, then A must equal see right? In other words, if crime is higher in black neighborhoods and blacks vote Democrat, then crime is higher in Democratic / blue neighborhoods right?
Wait, Elvis, you cannot do that and by that, I mean think logically and not politically. Why do the hell do these dumb douches think it is okay to put South Chicago and Southern Illinois in the same grouping, distinguish the impossible to distinguish red v. Blue (because people can change how they vote), but not the black and white skin color grouping that has been done for centuries?
It is also okay to pit Christian Americans versus Arab Americans, those previously Democratic voting turn coats who saw their race being mowed down by Biden approved American bombs. That is just being honest, Elvis. That is not racist at all.
If Loony Tooms came back to the USA, the first place he would go to live is Detroit or Baltimore right? Someone needs to tell him that the head of BLM now lives in a gated community. Yes, Loony Tooms, the blacks / blues leave their own ghettos when given the chance.
Buddha Tiny does not celebrate Christmas.
MarquisdeSade1
12-22-24, 03:57
Buddha Tiny does not celebrate Christmas.Would never entertain such a magnanimous concept.
MarquisdeSade1
12-22-24, 04:17
Here we have some Democratic douche in Thailand telling us how things are in the USA. Yes, Salt Lake City and Des Moines are not safe; you had best live in Harlem, South Chicago, and South Phily.
Of course, it really shows Loony Tooms is a racist. The Democratic douches said black and white could not be used to distinguigh thing but last I checked you could not change the color of your skin. However, red and blue is cool because if you choose to vote blue, although no one really knows if you did, your IQ soars as does your immune system when it comes to fighting Covid, and you live in crime free paradises. The douches cannot figure out why anyone could be opposed to voting blue then. They point to the NYT and say, "Well, THEY said it is true. ".
Of course, the whole thing could come down to the equation, if A=be and be=see, then A must equal see right? In other words, if crime is higher in black neighborhoods and blacks vote Democrat, then crime is higher in Democratic / blue neighborhoods right?
Wait, Elvis, you cannot do that and by that, I mean think logically and not politically. Why do the hell do these dumb douches think it is okay to put South Chicago and Southern Illinois in the same grouping, distinguish the impossible to distinguish red v. Blue (because people can change how they vote), but not the black and white skin color grouping that has been done for centuries?
It is also okay to pit Christian Americans versus Arab Americans, those previously Democratic voting turn coats who saw their race being mowed down by Biden approved American bombs. That is just being honest, Elvis. That is not racist at all.
If Loony Tooms came back to the USA, the first place he would go to live is Detroit or Baltimore right? Someone needs to tell him that the head of BLM now lives in a gated community. Yes, Loony Tooms, the blacks / blues leave their own ghettos when given the chance.https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/dnc-finance-chair/2024/12/21/id/1192532/
There are a few in this thread that write like they still belong with David Koresh and The Branch Davidians.
Here we have some Democratic douche in Thailand telling us how things are in the USA. Yes, Salt Lake City and Des Moines are not safe; you had best live in Harlem, South Chicago, and South Phily.
Of course, it really shows Loony Tooms is a racist. The Democratic douches said black and white could not be used to distinguigh thing but last I checked you could not change the color of your skin. However, red and blue is cool because if you choose to vote blue, although no one really knows if you did, your IQ soars as does your immune system when it comes to fighting Covid, and you live in crime free paradises. The douches cannot figure out why anyone could be opposed to voting blue then. They point to the NYT and say, "Well, THEY said it is true. ".
Of course, the whole thing could come down to the equation, if A=be and be=see, then A must equal see right? In other words, if crime is higher in black neighborhoods and blacks vote Democrat, then crime is higher in Democratic / blue neighborhoods right?
Wait, Elvis, you cannot do that and by that, I mean think logically and not politically. Why do the hell do these dumb douches think it is okay to put South Chicago and Southern Illinois in the same grouping, distinguish the impossible to distinguish red v. Blue (because people can change how they vote), but not the black and white skin color grouping that has been done for centuries?
It is also okay to pit Christian Americans versus Arab Americans, those previously Democratic voting turn coats who saw their race being mowed down by Biden approved American bombs. That is just being honest, Elvis. That is not racist at all.
If Loony Tooms came back to the USA, the first place he would go to live is Detroit or Baltimore right? Someone needs to tell him that the head of BLM now lives in a gated community. Yes, Loony Tooms, the blacks / blues leave their own ghettos when given the chance.One's IQ soars and THEN they vote straight Dem up and down the ballot every time.
Unless your goal is to install elected officials whose only mission and historic claim to fame is to be a Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeat bent on creating chaos, Great Depressions, Great Recessions, Massive Jobs Destruction and embrace and exacerbate any and every "Once in 100 Years Disaster" they can possibly find every 4-8 years, then I suppose whatever IQ it takes to choose that for your family, friends, country and your own life will lead you to vote for at least one Repub every now and then.
I think if I were to get tired of enjoying life with my FDR, JFK / LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden well-earned entitlements, career and investment gains in Thailand, I would move into a certain Southern California rental property, the mortgage of which is close to being fully paid for by my highly responsible and near zero hassle tenants. That particular neighborhood is lovely. A true "walker's paradise", university area, entertainment, widely diverse ethnic, cultural and restaurant options abound, comfortable year round weather, low crime and very little "blight" unless I make a determined effort to go searching for it.
I keep very close tabs on what is going on in that part of the world with my rental management company, tenants, friends, family, business associates, etc.
But I don't recall ever voting for anyone based on their immigration and / or racial stance or ethnicity.
Unlike MAGAs and their Party's lord and savior, whoever that is:
Republicans claim Democrats cant keep us safe crime data disagrees.
Studies show that states with higher murder rates are those that vote red even as conservatives stoke fear about crime.
June 28, 2023
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2467-American-Politics&p=2785837&viewfull=1#post2785837
Can't those Repub governors control the per capita murder and crime rates in their States' most populated and important cities? Are they just Know Nothing, Do Nothing Deadbeats regarding the vast majority of people, workers and tax-payers living in their State?
Shameful.Why would you look to governors to police individual cities? That's like blaming Biden for high murder rates in Mississippi.
It's the local sheriffs and police chiefs who are responsible. And in many Democratic counties and cities they do a piss poor job:
As I don't want you gentlemen to waste a huge amount of time on a losing proposition, here are the ten counties in the USA with the highest homicide rates in 2017, from the source linked below, and the margin by which Biden won each in 2020.
1. Orleans Parish, Louisiana 68.2%.
2. Coahoma County, Mississippi 42.9%.
3. Phillips County, Arkansas 19.3%.
4. tie St. Louis City, Missouri 66.2%.
4. tie Baltimore City, Maryland 76.6%.
6. Petersburg, Virginia 76.5%.
7. tie Macon County, Alabama 63.8%.
7. tie Washington, D.C. 86.7%.
9. Washington County, Mississippi 39.6%.
9. Dallas County, Alabama 37.5%.
https://www.police1.com/ambush/articles/10-us-counties-with-the-highest-murder-rate-kerWgaEUmxJkn74J/
I'm two lazy to do the same exercise for the cities with the highest homicide rates, but just looking at them, I bet they all went heavily for Biden in 2020 too:
https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/cities-with-most-murders
You are the victim of Simpson's paradox. You must segment the data to better understand cause and effect. The cause is Democratic Party local government and the effect is higher homicide rates.
MarquisdeSade1
12-22-24, 08:48
Why would you look to governors to police individual cities? That's like blaming Biden for high murder rates in Mississippi.
It's the local sheriffs and police chiefs who are responsible. And in many Democratic counties and cities they do a piss poor job:
I'm two lazy to do the same exercise for the cities with the highest homicide rates, but just looking at them, I bet they all went heavily for Biden in 2020 too:
https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/cities-with-most-murders
You are the victim of Simpson's paradox. You must segment the data to better understand cause and effect. The cause is Democratic Party local government and the effect is higher homicide rates.Obsessive "Motivated Reasoning".
Why would you look to governors to police individual cities? That's like blaming Biden for high murder rates in Mississippi.
It's the local sheriffs and police chiefs who are responsible. And in many Democratic counties and cities they do a piss poor job:
I'm two lazy to do the same exercise for the cities with the highest homicide rates, but just looking at them, I bet they all went heavily for Biden in 2020 too:
https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/cities-with-most-murders
You are the victim of Simpson's paradox. You must segment the data to better understand cause and effect. The cause is Democratic Party local government and the effect is higher homicide rates.Has a week gone by when MAGAs and Bothsider / Neithersiders HAVEN'T blamed Biden or Harris or Biden-Harris for national crime rates? Like you just tried to do here.
Who are those governors' constituents if not the people who live in their states' cities and towns? Rattlesnakes, groundhogs and Zeke the desert trailor-dwelling hermit nobody has seen since he dropped off a bucket of severed feet and hands at Aunt Bea's Roadside Chicken Stand last month?
I assume those Repub governors show up to be thanked for their "fine governance" at the celebration of the capture of a Monarch Butterfly by Hooterville's Mayor Beauregard.
Why shouldn't they be expected to be responsible for at least some if not most of the safety, welfare, job opportunities, business expansion and all the other elements of life that factor into crime rates everywhere else on the planet?
Damn. Just how DEADBEAT do these Deadbeat Repub governors and other Repub elected officials have to be before Presidents-elect and Department of Efficiency Secretaries Musk and Ramaswamy cut their pay down to the zero they apparently ever earn?
Has a week gone by when MAGAs and Bothsider / Neithersiders HAVEN'T blamed Biden or Harris or Biden-Harris for national crime rates? Like you just tried to do here.
Who are those governors' constituents if not the people who live in their states' cities and towns? Rattlesnakes, groundhogs and Zeke the desert trailor-dwelling hermit nobody has seen since he dropped off a bucket of severed feet and hands at Aunt Bea's Roadside Chicken Stand last month?
I assume those Repub governors show up to be thanked for their "fine governance" at the celebration of the capture of a Monarch Butterfly by Hooterville's Mayor Beauregard.
Why shouldn't they be expected to be responsible for at least some if not most of the safety, welfare, job opportunities, business expansion and all the other elements of life that factor into crime rates everywhere else on the planet?
Damn. Just how DEADBEAT do these Deadbeat Repub governors and other Repub elected officials have to be before Presidents-elect and Department of Efficiency Secretaries Musk and Ramaswamy cut their pay down to the zero they apparently ever earn?I've never blamed Biden or Harris for national crime rates. It's the opposite. I've blamed Harris et al for criminalizing behavior like posting reviews on a hooker board.
You really have four choices.
1. Local police and local government in blue counties aren't very good at preventing homicides.
2. Democrats have a higher propensity to kill people.
3. Other. "Other" should be more convincing than something about Aunt Bea, Hootersville, rattlesnakes and monarch butterflies
4. Combination of the above.
Please write an essay on this and if it's good enough we'll submit it to the RNC to incorporate into campaign advertising in 2026.
Blackhearted Libertarians
Would never entertain such a magnanimous concept.Firstly I'm a white-hearted Libertarian. I believe in a social safety net.
Secondly, I'the rather be a blackhearted Libertarian than a Bernie Bro.
MarquisdeSade1
12-22-24, 21:25
Firstly I'm a white-hearted Libertarian. I believe in a social safety net.
Secondly, I'the rather be a blackhearted Libertarian than a Bernie Bro.Secondly, I'the rather be a blackhearted Libertarian than a Bernie Bro lolol that's because you are.
You've written you think the min wage should be set by locals govts as opposed to Washington.
If so, then what if a state, lets say Idaho wants to set it at 25 cents per hour.
I've never blamed Biden or Harris for national crime rates. It's the opposite. I've blamed Harris et al for criminalizing behavior like posting reviews on a hooker board.
You really have four choices.
1. Local police and local government in blue counties aren't very good at preventing homicides.
2. Democrats have a higher propensity to kill people.
3. Other. "Other" should be more convincing than something about Aunt Bea, Hootersville, rattlesnakes and monarch butterflies
4. Combination of the above.
Please write an essay on this and if it's good enough we'll submit it to the RNC to incorporate into campaign advertising in 2026.5. Instead of voting in Defund The Police and Supply-Side / Trickle-Down failure Repub presidents and members of Congress, vote in pro police Dem presidents and enough Dem members of Congress to pass legislation that funds the police, staffing and resources needed to control crime in cities where most Americans live and work, outside of Hooterville.
That is what Clinton and his Dem Congress did for New York City and other big real cities around the country in the early 1990's and the Reagan / Bush1 crime rates plummeted.
LOL. Did you really think Loony Rudy Giuliani had anything whatsoever to do with reducing crime and cleaning up a mess in New York City during the Clinton years?
Nope. It was because Clinton took away a precious 2-3 percentage points of taxes from still wealthy Americans to fund police and resources in those cities to get the job done, some $100,000,000 plus to New York City alone.
5. Instead of voting in Defund The Police and Supply-Side / Trickle-Down failure Repub presidents and members of Congress, vote in pro police Dem presidents and enough Dem members of Congress to pass legislation that funds the police, staffing and resources needed to control crime in cities where most Americans live and work, outside of Hooterville.
That is what Clinton and his Dem Congress did for New York City and other big real cities around the country in the early 1990's and the Reagan / Bush1 crime rates plummeted.
LOL. Did you really think Loony Rudy Giuliani had anything whatsoever to do with reducing crime and cleaning up a mess in New York City during the Clinton years?
Nope. It was because Clinton took away a precious 2-3 percentage points of taxes from still wealthy Americans to fund police and resources in those cities to get the job done, some $100,000,000 plus to New York City alone.
Secondly, I'the rather be a blackhearted Libertarian than a Bernie Bro lolol that's because you are.
You've written you think the min wage should be set by locals govts as opposed to Washington.
If so, then what if a state, lets say Idaho wants to set it at 25 cents per hour.I don't understand why you two bicker. You're two peas in a pod. The duly elected representatives of the people of Idaho shouldn't decide the minimum wage in Idaho. Instead Bernie Sanders and other politicians in Washington should. And the people of New York City, one of the wealthier cities in the world, shouldn't fund their own policing. That should be up to Democrats in Washington to direct too.
That's crazy IMHO, and anti-democratic. Government should be closest to the people whenever that makes sense. The people of Idaho should decide how they'll be governed, not Bernie Sanders. And New Yorkers should pay for their own policing.
MarquisdeSade1
12-23-24, 20:01
I don't understand why you two bicker. You're two peas in a pod. The duly elected representatives of the people of Idaho shouldn't decide the minimum wage in Idaho. Instead Bernie Sanders and other politicians in Washington should. And the people of New York City, one of the wealthier cities in the world, shouldn't fund their own policing. That should be up to Democrats in Washington to direct too.
That's crazy IMHO, and anti-democratic. Government should be closest to the people whenever that makes sense. The people of Idaho should decide how they'll be governed, not Bernie Sanders. And New Yorkers should pay for their own policing.What if Alabama says 5 cents an hour? Duly elected representatives? How about at the county level or the village of 27 people level?
It's easy to see they would have a race to the BOTTOM, of who could pay less
BTW I wish there were a maximum wage also
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/12/22/manchin-democratic-party-brand-toxic-they-have-tried-to-mainstream-the-extreme/
Hey ET is he talking about your sucker issues? LMAO.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/23/opinion/democrats-election-future.html
More Trannies and Illegal Aliens please.
Thanks Scumbag Joe and the Junkie.
did you see the scumbag commuted 37 death sentences
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/12/23/biden-spares-murderers-who-killed-entire-families-including-children-infants/
wow Scumbag Joe is making sure he goes down in history as thee worst President ever and to think they cheated to install this Piece Of Shit
quite impressive he even beats out Barry Hussein Bubba and GW as worst ever!!
MarquisdeSade1
12-23-24, 20:06
Firstly I'm a white-hearted Libertarian. I believe in a social safety net.
Secondly, I'the rather be a blackhearted Libertarian than a Bernie Bro.LOL ID rather be "anything" instead of an evil Libertarian.
You believe in a social safety net? Oh really please tell us more?
What soup kitchens like in Oliver Twist or simple bread lines during the depression?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tOkpntQtBM
MarquisdeSade1
12-23-24, 20:14
5. Instead of voting in Defund The Police and Supply-Side / Trickle-Down failure Repub presidents and members of Congress, vote in pro police Dem presidents and enough Dem members of Congress to pass legislation that funds the police, staffing and resources needed to control crime in cities where most Americans live and work, outside of Hooterville.
That is what Clinton and his Dem Congress did for New York City and other big real cities around the country in the early 1990's and the Reagan / Bush1 crime rates plummeted.
LOL. Did you really think Loony Rudy Giuliani had anything whatsoever to do with reducing crime and cleaning up a mess in New York City during the Clinton years?
Nope. It was because Clinton took away a precious 2-3 percentage points of taxes from still wealthy Americans to fund police and resources in those cities to get the job done, some $100,000,000 plus to New York City alone.https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ny-times-bret-stephens-opinion/2024/12/23/id/1192625/
What if Alabama says 5 cents an hour? Duly elected representatives? How about at the county level or the village of 27 people level?
It's easy to see they would have a race to the BOTTOM, of who could pay less
BTW I wish there were a maximum wage also
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/12/22/manchin-democratic-party-brand-toxic-they-have-tried-to-mainstream-the-extreme/
Hey ET is he talking about your sucker issues? LMAO.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/23/opinion/democrats-election-future.html
More Trannies and Illegal Aliens please.
Thanks Scumbag Joe and the Junkie.
did you see the scumbag commuted 37 death sentences
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/12/23/biden-spares-murderers-who-killed-entire-families-including-children-infants/
wow Scumbag Joe is making sure he goes down in history as thee worst President ever and to think they cheated to install this Piece Of Shit
quite impressive he even beats out Barry Hussein Bubba and GW as worst ever!!Yes I did answer the question. Politicians like Bernie Sanders have no business telling Idahoans and Alabamans what to do. I don't give a flying fuck what the minimum wage is in Idaho, Alabama, California, New York or any other place where I don't live. And I'm not so arrogant as to believe that my views should be imposed on people in those states. Like many Libertarians, I don't give a crap either if you decide to whack off your penis, buy new breasts, and start calling yourself the Marquesa de Sade. In fact, more power to you. Maybe you could take up a new career as a dominatrix and pull down the big bucks.
And of course you want a maximum wage. That fits right in with the Bernie Bros' extreme left ideology. You really should pay more attention to your links. Manchin is talking about your favorite politicians.
Trump would never claim you. You're a socialist and farther to the right on social issues than he is. Trump may say differently, but like me he doesn't really give a fuck what bathroom a Trannie uses, just as long as that Trannie votes for him or buys something from him.
Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller might claim you though.
LOL ID rather be "anything" instead of an evil Libertarian.
You believe in a social safety net? Oh really please tell us more?
What soup kitchens like in Oliver Twist or simple bread lines during the depression?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tOkpntQtBMWhat do you notice about that kid? He's not obese like a lot of American youngsters. He's energetic. He sure as hell can outrun you. If he keeps up a calorie restricted diet, he'll likely live a lot longer than he would otherwise. That's been proven true in rats, dogs, and monkeys, and it's almost certainly true among humans. So stop complaining.
Oh yeah, and good on Biden for commuting those 37 death sentences to life in prison. If there's anything that's truly evil, it's the state directing the execution of its citizens.
"Then Peter came up and said to him, 'Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him?' Jesus answered him, 'I say to you, not up to seven times, but seventy times seven'"
"Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven"
Or, the version I prefer,
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
- The Reverend Tiny
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/ny-times-bret-stephens-opinion/2024/12/23/id/1192625/What Trump "understood" is that his Israel criminal fugitive counterpart, Netanyahu, was nice enough to keep his conflict with Gaza going without a hint of a ceasefire on the table long enough to inflame the hatred of at least 114,900 angry Muslims in PA, MI and WI to the point of them voting for Trump instead of Harris. That's it.
If anyone wants to "teach" the Democratic Party a lesson about why Trump won instead of Harris, the only pro-active measure to recommend is to get into those 3 states early and often in 2028 and start pandering to the Muslim Community and catering particularly to the Muslim Community Leadership in those three states.
That is what the Republican Party will be doing. Without question. They know.
Otherwise, the greatest "messenger" for the Dems will be Presidents Musk, Ramaswamy and Bannon, their assistant Trump and, most importantly, their horrific economic and foreign policy and stewardship results over the next four years. They are already jacking up prices for goods, products and mortgage loans just by "talking" about what they're going to start doing on Day One.
MarquisdeSade1
12-24-24, 05:18
Yes I did answer the question. Politicians like Bernie Sanders have no business telling Idahoans and Alabamans what to do. I don't give a flying fuck what the minimum wage is in Idaho, Alabama, California, New York or any other place where I don't live. And I'm not so arrogant as to believe that my views should be imposed on people in those states. Like many Libertarians, I don't give a crap either if you decide to whack off your penis, buy new breasts, and start calling yourself the Marquesa de Sade. In fact, more power to you. Maybe you could take up a new career as a dominatrix and pull down the big bucks.
And of course you want a maximum wage. That fits right in with the Bernie Bros' extreme left ideology. You really should pay more attention to your links. Manchin is talking about your favorite politicians.
Trump would never claim you. You're a socialist and farther to the right on social issues than he is. Trump may say differently, but like me he doesn't really give a fuck what bathroom a Trannie uses, just as long as that Trannie votes for him or buys something from him.
Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller might claim you though.
What do you notice about that kid? He's not obese like a lot of American youngsters. He's energetic. He sure as hell can outrun you. If he keeps up a calorie restricted diet, he'll likely live a lot longer than he would otherwise. That's been proven true in rats, dogs, and monkeys, and it's almost certainly true among humans. So stop complaining.
Oh yeah, and good on Biden for commuting those 37 death sentences to life in prison. If there's anything that's truly evil, it's the state directing the execution of its citizens.
"Then Peter came up and said to him, 'Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him?' Jesus answered him, 'I say to you, not up to seven times, but seventy times seven'"
"Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven"
Or, the version I prefer,
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
- The Reverend TinyYou're an evil Libertarian like Nick Gilespie or Chas Koch.
I love Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller both would be great Presidents, I'm guessing better than Trump.
Stephen Miller the first Hebrew Nazi for President 2028!!
I'd say nice try but NOT, Manchin and I agree probably agree on 99% of issues.
MarquisdeSade1
12-24-24, 05:29
Yes I did answer the question. Politicians like Bernie Sanders have no business telling Idahoans and Alabamans what to do. I don't give a flying fuck what the minimum wage is in Idaho, Alabama, California, New York or any other place where I don't live. And I'm not so arrogant as to believe that my views should be imposed on people in those states. Like many Libertarians, I don't give a crap either if you decide to whack off your penis, buy new breasts, and start calling yourself the Marquesa de Sade. In fact, more power to you. Maybe you could take up a new career as a dominatrix and pull down the big bucks.
And of course you want a maximum wage. That fits right in with the Bernie Bros' extreme left ideology. You really should pay more attention to your links. Manchin is talking about your favorite politicians.
Trump would never claim you. You're a socialist and farther to the right on social issues than he is. Trump may say differently, but like me he doesn't really give a fuck what bathroom a Trannie uses, just as long as that Trannie votes for him or buys something from him.
Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller might claim you though.
What do you notice about that kid? He's not obese like a lot of American youngsters. He's energetic. He sure as hell can outrun you. If he keeps up a calorie restricted diet, he'll likely live a lot longer than he would otherwise. That's been proven true in rats, dogs, and monkeys, and it's almost certainly true among humans. So stop complaining.
Oh yeah, and good on Biden for commuting those 37 death sentences to life in prison. If there's anything that's truly evil, it's the state directing the execution of its citizens.
"Then Peter came up and said to him, 'Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him?' Jesus answered him, 'I say to you, not up to seven times, but seventy times seven'"
"Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven"
Or, the version I prefer,
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
- The Reverend TinyGo ahead and tell this woman's family what you just wrote.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/migrant-suspect-arrested-after-allegedly-setting-woman-fire-nyc-subway-car
I used to be Vehemently Anti Capital Punishment, until I grew the FUCK UP.
You just hate the govt having any authority that's why you vote for Gay ass soft on crime Soros like "liberal" prosecutors.
(until they rape and kill your sons and daughters and make you watch).
You are probably one of those whacko "Sovereign Citizens".
You're crazier than ET, take your damn pills and we want to know how you snuck a laptop into the State Mental Hospital?
MarquisdeSade1
12-24-24, 05:34
Yes I did answer the question. Politicians like Bernie Sanders have no business telling Idahoans and Alabamans what to do. I don't give a flying fuck what the minimum wage is in Idaho, Alabama, California, New York or any other place where I don't live. And I'm not so arrogant as to believe that my views should be imposed on people in those states. Like many Libertarians, I don't give a crap either if you decide to whack off your penis, buy new breasts, and start calling yourself the Marquesa de Sade. In fact, more power to you. Maybe you could take up a new career as a dominatrix and pull down the big bucks.
And of course you want a maximum wage. That fits right in with the Bernie Bros' extreme left ideology. You really should pay more attention to your links. Manchin is talking about your favorite politicians.
Trump would never claim you. You're a socialist and farther to the right on social issues than he is. Trump may say differently, but like me he doesn't really give a fuck what bathroom a Trannie uses, just as long as that Trannie votes for him or buys something from him.
Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller might claim you though.
What do you notice about that kid? He's not obese like a lot of American youngsters. He's energetic. He sure as hell can outrun you. If he keeps up a calorie restricted diet, he'll likely live a lot longer than he would otherwise. That's been proven true in rats, dogs, and monkeys, and it's almost certainly true among humans. So stop complaining.
Oh yeah, and good on Biden for commuting those 37 death sentences to life in prison. If there's anything that's truly evil, it's the state directing the execution of its citizens.
"Then Peter came up and said to him, 'Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him?' Jesus answered him, 'I say to you, not up to seven times, but seventy times seven'"
"Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven"
Or, the version I prefer,
Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
- The Reverend TinyWhen you dream you don't dream about pussy like normal men, you dream about being a Slave Owner circa 1800 Savannah Ga.
Hey, congratulations, MAGAs, admitted Repubs, pretend Bothsider / Neithersiders, pretend Independents, those decisive 114,900 angry Muslims in PA, MI and WI and any other suckers who didn't vote all Dem straight down your ballot this year!
There is now no doubt about it; the assistant to the assistant to the assistant Presidents-elect, Donald J. Trump, has definitely increased the cost of cargo containers and shipments, which will be added to the price of all those goods and products to be paid for by the American Consumer and no one else AND the cost of the "American Dream" of owning a home, an added cost that typically extends throughout the decades of most borrowers' mortgage loan.
And he has done that just by flappin' his yappy pie-hole over and over again about keeping his economically disastrous campaign promises, even before he takes his Lie of Office and even if he realizes he hasn't got the slightest clue how to do anything nor the slightest bit of energy to do it and decides to just play lots and lots and lots of golf for the next for years and nothing else:
The Fed cut interest rates but mortgage costs jumped. Here's why
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/12/20/why-mortgage-rates-jumped-despite-fed-interest-rate-cut.html?__source=androidappshare
The Federal Reserve on Wednesday cut interest rates for the third time in 2024. Despite the move, mortgage rates increased.
The 30-year fixed rate mortgage spiked to 6.72% for the week ending Dec. 19, a day after the Fed meeting, according to Freddie Mac data via the Fed. That is up from 6.60% from a week prior.
.........
To understand that disconnect, it is important to remember that mortgage rates closely follow the Treasury yields and are only slightly affected by the federal funds rate. Mortgage rates climbed in November as the bond market reacted to Donald Trumps election win.
..........
"That, in conjunction with Trumps desired policies on tariffs, immigration and tax cuts which are all inflationary spooked the bond market", Cohn said.It could very well turn out that adding at least 20% to the cost of everything is the only campaign promise Donald J. Trump keeps.
Oh well.
What Trump "understood" is that his Israel criminal fugitive counterpart, Netanyahu, was nice enough to keep his conflict with Gaza going without a hint of a ceasefire on the table long enough to inflame the hatred of at least 114,900 angry Muslims in PA, MI and WI to the point of them voting for Trump instead of Harris. That's it.And you don't think that left-wing ultras who instigated this anti-Semitic madness on American streets and campuses bare even a little responsibility for fomenting that cut-my-nose-to-spite-the-face attitude?
Well, I'm not quite sure what--in your opinion--Netanyahu should've done that would've prevented angry Muslims in PA, MI and WI from voting against their own slef-interests. Maybe he should've welcomed Hamas with an open heart and kindly allow them to proceed to murder, rape and burn alive 1,500 more Israelis. Although a little bird tells me even that might not have been enough to pacify Muslims because neither 3,000 nor 100,000 dead Jews would've quenched that thirst.
What Trump "understood" is that his Israel criminal fugitive counterpart, Netanyahu, was nice enough to keep his conflict with Gaza going without a hint of a ceasefire on the table long enough to inflame the hatred of at least 114,900 angry Muslims in PA, MI and WI to the point of them voting for Trump instead of Harris. That's it.
If anyone wants to "teach" the Democratic Party a lesson about why Trump won instead of Harris, the only pro-active measure to recommend is to get into those 3 states early and often in 2028 and start pandering to the Muslim Community and catering particularly to the Muslim Community Leadership in those three states.
That is what the Republican Party will be doing. Without question. They know.
Otherwise, the greatest "messenger" for the Dems will be Presidents Musk, Ramaswamy and Bannon, their assistant Trump and, most importantly, their horrific economic and foreign policy and stewardship results over the next four years. They are already jacking up prices for goods, products and mortgage loans just by "talking" about what they're going to start doing on Day One.Not Musk, but Muslims elected Trump? So, he will have to suck them on his knees. When Putin fuck and kill Russians, Netanyahou will kill many Jews all over the world, USA should experience how to be deeply fucked with crazy senile Orange.
And you don't think that left-wing ultras who instigated this anti-Semitic madness on American streets and campuses bare even a little responsibility for fomenting that cut-my-nose-to-spite-the-face attitude?
Well, I'm not quite sure what--in your opinion--Netanyahu should've done that would've prevented angry Muslims in PA, MI and WI from voting against their own slef-interests. Maybe he should've welcomed Hamas with an open heart and kindly allow them to proceed to murder, rape and burn alive 1,500 more Israelis. Although a little bird tells me even that might not have been enough to pacify Muslims because neither 3,000 nor 100,000 dead Jews would've quenched that thirst.The percentage of universities where there were even slightly noticeable protests was extremely small. At those universities the percentage of students protesting was extremely small. We're not talking even a tiny fraction of the civil rights and anti Vietnam War university protests of the 1960's.
For sure, Mainstream Media hyped it in ways that made it much more of an anti-Biden Administration election issue than it ever should have been. And those MSM efforts logically fueled the Muslim Community anger in PA, MI and WI as well.
You bring up a good point. Was there a way for Netanyahu to acknowledge and express appreciation for the plight of whatever innocent bystanders in Gaza who never harbored Hamas Terrorists were suffering? I think he probably could have.
Netanyahu / Israel had every right to strike back and strike back hard. But he takes the tough talking, no compromise approach that Trump prefers and wins him nothing. He and Israel is now a pariah in the Middle East more than ever before.
I believe one reason Netanyahu did not soften his stance after a certain level of devastation was visited on Gaza is precisely because he prefers the wider leverage to do whatever the hell he wants to Gaza he expects to enjoy with Trump as assistant to the assistant to the assistant President.
That will not be "better" for any pro Gaza protestors or voters in PA, MI and WI than the Dem Administration alternative and certainly not better for Israel.
MarquisdeSade1
12-24-24, 23:37
LOL ID rather be "anything" instead of an evil Libertarian.
You believe in a social safety net? Oh really please tell us more?
What soup kitchens like in Oliver Twist or simple bread lines during the depression?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tOkpntQtBMI'm guessing the the morbidly obese cow handing out the gruel at the child slavery / orphanage just might be a white-hearted Libertarian too?
You're an evil Libertarian like Nick Gilespie or Chas Koch.
I love Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller both would be great Presidents, I'm guessing better than Trump.
Stephen Miller the first Hebrew Nazi for President 2028!!
I'd say nice try but NOT, Manchin and I agree probably agree on 99% of issues.
Go ahead and tell this woman's family what you just wrote.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/migrant-suspect-arrested-after-allegedly-setting-woman-fire-nyc-subway-car
I used to be Vehemently Anti Capital Punishment, until I grew the FUCK UP.
You just hate the govt having any authority that's why you vote for Gay ass soft on crime Soros like "liberal" prosecutors.
(until they rape and kill your sons and daughters and make you watch).
You are probably one of those whacko "Sovereign Citizens".
You're crazier than ET, take your damn pills and we want to know how you snuck a laptop into the State Mental Hospital?
When you dream you don't dream about pussy like normal men, you dream about being a Slave Owner circa 1800 Savannah Ga.I do not know what a Sovereign citizen is. I've seen Nick Gillespie on television once or twice and all I remember is that he's kind of Neanderthal looking. Charles Koch on the other hand, like his brother David, is a Genuine American Hero. The Koch Brothers donated billions to education, medicine and poverty alleviation. They've done much more to improve the USA than anyone posting on this board. More than Bernie's Benefactor George Soros.
Estimates of the number of innocent people sentenced to death run between 4% and 12% of the total number who were on death row.
Let's compare you and me.
The Marquesa:
1. Favors the execution of innocents.
2. Wants to either put trannies, gays and immigrants in death camps or kick them out of the country.
3. Wants to impoverish America with big government and Bernie Sanders socialist policies.
4. Has crushes on Steve Bannon and JAP (Jewish American Prince) Stephen Miller.
5. Wanted to overthrow 250 years of democracy in the United States of America in 2020.
The Reverend Tiny:
1. Favors a system like Singapore's Central Provident Fund, which would provide decent retirement and decent medical care to all, as well as money for education and a house.
2. Prefers individual freedom. If it doesn't hurt other people, then what people do is none of the government's damn business.
3. Prefers smaller government, along the lines of what has made the USA, Switzerland and Singapore the most prosperous decent-sized countries in the world.
4. Has crushes on Milton Friedman and Ronald Reagan.
Now who's evil?
Nevertheless Marquesa, I love you as I do all fellow humans.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!
- The Reverend Tiny.
MarquisdeSade1
12-25-24, 03:50
I do not know what a Sovereign citizen is. I've seen Nick Gillespie on television once or twice and all I remember is that he's kind of Neanderthal looking. Charles Koch on the other hand, like his brother David, is a Genuine American Hero. The Koch Brothers donated billions to education, medicine and poverty alleviation. They've done much more to improve the USA than anyone posting on this board. More than Bernie's Benefactor George Soros.
Estimates of the number of innocent people sentenced to death run between 4% and 12% of the total number who were on death row.
Let's compare you and me.
The Marquesa:
1. Favors the execution of innocents.
2. Wants to either put trannies, gays and immigrants in death camps or kick them out of the country.
3. Wants to impoverish America with big government and Bernie Sanders socialist policies.
4. Has crushes on Steve Bannon and JAP (Jewish American Prince) Stephen Miller.
5. Wanted to overthrow 250 years of democracy in the United States of America in 2020.
The Reverend Tiny:
1. Favors a system like Singapore's Central Provident Fund, which would provide decent retirement and decent medical care to all, as well as money for education and a house.
2. Prefers individual freedom. If it doesn't hurt other people, then what people do is none of the government's damn business.
3. Prefers smaller government, along the lines of what has made the USA, Switzerland and Singapore the most prosperous decent-sized countries in the world.
4. Has crushes on Milton Friedman and Ronald Reagan.
Now who's evil?
Nevertheless Marquesa, I love you as I do all fellow humans.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!
- The Reverend Tiny.But you haven't told us how you snuck that laptop into the Texas State Mental Hospital (under your rolls of fat? Or your YUGE ass crack?
Koch bros, the dead one wasn't nearly as bad as Chas.
Chas Koch=a real life iteration of Montgomery Burns.
MarquisdeSade1
12-25-24, 04:08
I do not know what a Sovereign citizen is. I've seen Nick Gillespie on television once or twice and all I remember is that he's kind of Neanderthal looking. Charles Koch on the other hand, like his brother David, is a Genuine American Hero. The Koch Brothers donated billions to education, medicine and poverty alleviation. They've done much more to improve the USA than anyone posting on this board. More than Bernie's Benefactor George Soros.
Estimates of the number of innocent people sentenced to death run between 4% and 12% of the total number who were on death row.
Let's compare you and me.
The Marquesa:
1. Favors the execution of innocents.
2. Wants to either put trannies, gays and immigrants in death camps or kick them out of the country.
3. Wants to impoverish America with big government and Bernie Sanders socialist policies.
4. Has crushes on Steve Bannon and JAP (Jewish American Prince) Stephen Miller.
5. Wanted to overthrow 250 years of democracy in the United States of America in 2020.
The Reverend Tiny:
1. Favors a system like Singapore's Central Provident Fund, which would provide decent retirement and decent medical care to all, as well as money for education and a house.
2. Prefers individual freedom. If it doesn't hurt other people, then what people do is none of the government's damn business.
3. Prefers smaller government, along the lines of what has made the USA, Switzerland and Singapore the most prosperous decent-sized countries in the world.
4. Has crushes on Milton Friedman and Ronald Reagan.
Now who's evil?
Nevertheless Marquesa, I love you as I do all fellow humans.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!
- The Reverend Tiny.You are opposed to Killing the SAVAGES.
"If there's anything that's truly evil, it's the state directing the execution of its citizens. " even the evil savages? So you defend the evil savages right to live.
I most definitely do NOT!
I know your problem (well at least one of them) you have no clue the difference between good and evil!!
Here's a question for you?
I hope it doesn't hurt.
You wrote.
"If there's anything that's truly evil, it's the state directing the execution of its citizens. ".
Ok this savage is an illegal alien from the NYC subway, and you still want to defend this monsters right to breathe at tax payers expense for the next 50 yrs?
$556,000 per person each.
(Credit: Jim Henderson) In 2021, the New York City Comptroller revealed the cost of incarceration has grown to more than $556,000 per person each year. That's over $1,500 each day to lock up just one person. Jan 17,2024.
"Good peace to all and all a good night".
(except Evil homicidal savages).
Not Musk, but Muslims elected Trump? So, he will have to suck them on his knees. When Putin fuck and kill Russians, Netanyahou will kill many Jews all over the world, USA should experience how to be deeply fucked with crazy senile Orange.There were no other Electoral College state "surprises" other than the historically acknowledged Blue Wall of PA, MI, and WI flipping Red for assistant President-elect Trump. By a slim margin. Thanks to a particular demo targeted with a specific and especially persuasive message by their overwhelmingly dutifully followed community's leadership.
There were not even any real "surprise" flips among the House seats and numbers around the country.
The 3-4 Senate seat flips from Blue to Red were barely flips at all considering everyone expected them to "go back" to their typical, historical Red status this time around anyway.
Factoring in where the candidates' time and money were spent, there is simply no evidence that all the messaging about Trannies, sons being dropped off at school in the morning being picked up in the afternoon as daughters with their dicks chopped off, caravans of immigrants taking "107% of Biden's record millions of new jobs", all grandma's getting shot, stabbed and raped every time they go to the market, that nobody can buy, eat or do anything, the unemployment rate is at an historic high, the stock market is at an historic low, blah blah blah" made the slightest dent or change in the totally predictable Electoral College state outcomes.
This election outcome actually defied the global trend of "change" elections. There was practically no meaningful "change" at all in America except in one respect.
And this was it:
Except in the three Blue Wall states where there IS plenty of evidence that one particular sliver of the population responded as ordered by just enough swings and "change" from their usual Dem votes to Repub votes. And only for that one office. There were no shocking swings from Blue to Red in the other election contests. Which further confirms it was a One Issue swing in those three decisive Blue Wall states. The one that Netanyahu hoped for and got.
President-elect "Elonia" Musk's money? LOL. He continued his penchant for WAY OVERPAYING for his purchases. There was absolutely no need for him to have spent some $277 Million to win the presidency. He got exactly zero value out of it anywhere and everywhere in the country except for whatever relatively small fraction of it went to influence and encourage the Muslim Community Leaders in PA, MI and WI to issue the orders that mobilized those voters, and it only took a minor percentage of them to do it, to decide the presidential election by voting for Trump instead of Harris.
He probably wasted a good $250 Million of his money spending it on anything else.
Which, of course, makes him the perfect Repub choice to lead some idiotic and non existant "Department of Government Efficiency" to root out wasteful and excessive spending. Lololol.
So far his most notable accomplishment in his pretend position has been to produce a BIG WIN for China and his BIGGEST FACTORY in China for his car company, Tesla. And he accomplished that with a very, very big contribution from his assistant, Donald Trump, who is already well known as a proven lackey and pro economic agent for Xi and China as well as the Repub Party in general with that last second Repub House Continuing Resolution deal they maneuvered.
Shh. Don't anybody tell MDS about that. Lolol.
Aw. Now the media is blabbing about something I had hoped would be kept a secret from MDS and other MAGAs for a while so they could enjoy their Christmas and New Year's holidays undisturbed by reality:
Republican Spending Bill Proposal Is Amazing for China, and for Musk
https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-china-continuing-resolution-budget-deal-proposal-2004103
Why It Matters
Musk, who is the world's richest man, has significant business interests in China. His company Tesla opened a "gigafactory" in Shanghai in 2019, building cars for the Chinese domestic market as well as Australasia. By 2022, China accounted for about 22.5 percent of Tesla's total revenue.
MarquisdeSade1
12-25-24, 05:53
I do not know what a Sovereign citizen is. I've seen Nick Gillespie on television once or twice and all I remember is that he's kind of Neanderthal looking. Charles Koch on the other hand, like his brother David, is a Genuine American Hero. The Koch Brothers donated billions to education, medicine and poverty alleviation. They've done much more to improve the USA than anyone posting on this board. More than Bernie's Benefactor George Soros.
Estimates of the number of innocent people sentenced to death run between 4% and 12% of the total number who were on death row.
Let's compare you and me.
The Marquesa:
1. Favors the execution of innocents.
2. Wants to either put trannies, gays and immigrants in death camps or kick them out of the country.
3. Wants to impoverish America with big government and Bernie Sanders socialist policies.
4. Has crushes on Steve Bannon and JAP (Jewish American Prince) Stephen Miller.
5. Wanted to overthrow 250 years of democracy in the United States of America in 2020.
The Reverend Tiny:
1. Favors a system like Singapore's Central Provident Fund, which would provide decent retirement and decent medical care to all, as well as money for education and a house.
2. Prefers individual freedom. If it doesn't hurt other people, then what people do is none of the government's damn business.
3. Prefers smaller government, along the lines of what has made the USA, Switzerland and Singapore the most prosperous decent-sized countries in the world.
4. Has crushes on Milton Friedman and Ronald Reagan.
Now who's evil?
Nevertheless Marquesa, I love you as I do all fellow humans.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!
- The Reverend Tiny.I have never heard of Chas Koch donating to anything EVER.
That wasn't completely self serving, like donating to help illegals get drivers licenses or new immigrants to vote.
As that what you call poverty alleviation? You're TWISTED.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdurot/2023/10/10/exclusive-charles-koch-koch-industries-has-given-more-than-5-billion-of-his-koch-industries-stock-to-two-nonprofits/
He's a parasitic turd and you consider him your hero.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd753r47815o
I hope they execute her on live TV and its so popular it makes it way to US court rooms.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39535957
US executions need to be televised live like the Super Bowl.
4%-12% of executions are innocent LMFAO.
You're going to make ET piss himself when he reads that.
Lets see some facts to back that up Morbidly Obese Tiny The Bullshitter.
The percentage of universities where there were even slightly noticeable protests was extremely small. At those universities the percentage of students protesting was extremely small. We're not talking even a tiny fraction of the civil rights and anti Vietnam War university protests of the 1960's.
For sure, Mainstream Media hyped it in ways that made it much more of an anti-Biden Administration election issue than it ever should have been. And those MSM efforts logically fueled the Muslim Community anger in PA, MI and WI as well.Small or not, they're Ivy League schools. Which means MSM inevitably covers them ad nauseam and amplifies the message for left-wing anti-Semitic morons.
You bring up a good point. Was there a way for Netanyahu to acknowledge and express appreciation for the plight of whatever innocent bystanders in Gaza who never harbored Hamas Terrorists were suffering? I think he probably could have.Your "bystanders" repeatedly elected Hamas in reasonably-free elections. They did bring it to power, yes, that very Hamas who openly claims that their ONLY responsibility is to destroy Israel, not govern the territory and its people.
When your "government" starts a war, you will get caught in it. That's simply inevitable. It maybe tragic, but that's how wars are. Especially with a "government" like yours that LOVES IT when you get killed. That LOVES IT when your children get killed. When your women and elderly get killed. Why else would that "government" intentionally place their legitimate military targets in schools, mosques and hospitals?
Now the hordes of useful idiots in the West, already outraged by their own anti-Semitic bias, have an excuse to occupy Ivy League campuses for a "legit" protest.
Well, the blood of your bystanders is on Hamas, not Israel. Their blood is on the anti-Semitic UN agencies that help them perpetrate violence against Jews for the last 80 years. The blood is on fucking useful idiots too, because if you're a grown-up, you have an obligation to use your own brain.
Their blood is not on Jews or the state of Israel.
Netanyahu / Israel had every right to strike back and strike back hard. But he takes the tough talking, no compromise approach that Trump prefers and wins him nothing. Ah, the infamous "Israel has the right to defend itself, but!" , where the "BUT" cancels everything that stands before it.
Doesn't matter how many times I've heard this BS, it never fails to amaze me. Why don't you tell me how Israel can defend itself without hurting civilians -- when dealing with an enemy who not only doesn't give a fuck about civilian deaths, but wants more of them. Who not only DOESN'T attempt to protect children, but intentionally puts them in the harm's way?
If you can't answer this question -- and no, you can't -- then you have no right to utter your "BUT".
And, by the way, Israel is protecting Gazan civilians the way it's never been done in the history of warfare, but that's a discussion for another time.
He and Israel is now a pariah in the Middle East more than ever before.Really? Gee, if only did you have time to put your considerable research abilities to actually research the subject matter.
"Kiss the hand of your enemy" says an Arab proverb, "if you cannot chop it off. ".
That's the direction we're moving in -- not that they would kiss Netanyahu's hand, but they really seem to be concerned about their future right now.
The ceasefire with Hezbollah is a direct result of Israel's cutting that hydra's heads, not Kumbaya.
The one in the works with Hamas right now? Also made possible by IDF's relentless military actions, not Kumbaya.
Did you notice how quiet Iran is nowadays? Gee, I wonder why.
Of course, the Houthis are still standing for now. I hear they're so stubborn no one can defeat them. That's fine, I think they'll soon realize that their stuborness is no match to IDF"s determination.
Even the internal split in Gaza's attitude toward Hamas would never have taken place if Israel didn't deliver a crushing blow to Hamas and its supporters. Look at them now. Much fewer Gazan "bystanders" like Hamas nowadays. Who could've thought?
Hamas faces growing public dissent as Gaza war erodes support
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0vewvp14zdo
Pariah, you say?
I believe one reason Netanyahu did not soften his stance after a certain level of devastation was visited on Gaza is precisely because he prefers the wider leverage to do whatever the hell he wants to Gaza he expects to enjoy with Trump as assistant to the assistant to the assistant President.
That will not be "better" for any pro Gaza protestors or voters in PA, MI and WI than the Dem Administration alternative and certainly not better for Israel.If you believe that Netanyahu didn't "soften" his stance for a political reason, you know nothing about Israel and its people.
Netanyahu can be 1,000 times corrupt, and you're not wrong--he's a slick politician. But he's a soldier and patriot first. He would've done what he did regardless of who's sitting in the Oval Office and all other high offices around the world.
But you believe whatever you want.
Hey, if it worked for Matt Gaetz. It could work for you too!
https://www.aol.com/customer-appreciation-gaetz-report-uses-222852053.html
You'd never dare demand from other nations the level of restrain you ask from Israel.
Small or not, they're Ivy League schools. Which means MSM inevitably covers them ad nauseam and amplifies the message for left-wing anti-Semitic morons.
Your "bystanders" repeatedly elected Hamas in reasonably-free elections. They did bring it to power, yes, that very Hamas who openly claims that their ONLY responsibility is to destroy Israel, not govern the territory and its people.
When your "government" starts a war, you will get caught in it. That's simply inevitable. It maybe tragic, but that's how wars are. Especially with a "government" like yours that LOVES IT when you get killed. That LOVES IT when your children get killed. When your women and elderly get killed. Why else would that "government" intentionally place their legitimate military targets in schools, mosques and hospitals?
Now the hordes of useful idiots in the West, already outraged by their own anti-Semitic bias, have an excuse to occupy Ivy League campuses for a "legit" protest.
Well, the blood of your bystanders is on Hamas, not Israel. Their blood is on the anti-Semitic UN agencies that help them perpetrate violence against Jews for the last 80 years. The blood is on fucking useful idiots too, because if you're a grown-up, you have an obligation to use your own brain.
Their blood is not on Jews or the state of Israel.
Ah, the infamous "Israel has the right to defend itself, but!" , where the "BUT" cancels everything that stands before it.
Doesn't matter how many times I've heard this BS, it never fails to amaze me. Why don't you tell me how Israel can defend itself without hurting civilians -- when dealing with an enemy who not only doesn't give a fuck about civilian deaths, but wants more of them. Who not only DOESN'T attempt to protect children, but intentionally puts them in the harm's way?
If you can't answer this question -- and no, you can't -- then you have no right to utter your "BUT".
And, by the way, Israel is protecting Gazan civilians the way it's never been done in the history of warfare, but that's a discussion for another time.
Really? Gee, if only did you have time to put your considerable research abilities to actually research the subject matter.
"Kiss the hand of your enemy" says an Arab proverb, "if you cannot chop it off. ".
That's the direction we're moving in -- not that they would kiss Netanyahu's hand, but they really seem to be concerned about their future right now..You're lashing out at the wrong people on the wrong point.
My point was regarding the 114890 votes for Trump instead of Harris. I am more in line with Harris' opinion of the conflict; that.
Israel has a right to defend itself and how it does so matters. The same as I felt about my country after the Attack On 9-11.
And that Harris was not in control of the factors that caused those 114,890 votes to swing from her to Trump in those three states and thereby "gave the presidency" to Trump.
Neither did Biden.
In fact, neither did Trump.
Netanyahu held the lever of control on the issue that "gave Trump the presidency" in that regard. Wittingly and willingly or not.
Now, if your follow up argument then is that, no, Hamas held all the levers on it and there was nothing Netanyahu could say or do to alter his and his alone decisions on this, go for it.
My larger point is that the media and political pundits would love nothing better than for Dems to please for the love of God stop doing whatever it is they do time and time again to recover the USA Economy from one Great Repub Downturn and Massive Jobs Destruction after another, examine their conscience for getting it so wrong this year, change their entire Party agenda and please start being more like Economy-Destroying Repubs. That is a bad idea. And not even remotely necessary based on what all the evidence and facts tell us about this election.
The reason Trump won instead of Harris is due to a very narrow demo decision in three battleground / swing states on an issue neither Harris nor, presumably, Trump had any control and nothing more than that.
As far as the assertion in your post Subject line goes, I dare to demand from MY OWN COUNTRY a level of restraint when it comes to fuck ups like GHW Bush sleeping through the warnings he got from our Iraq Ambassador for Saddam Hussain's inquiries about how he felt about him annexing Kuwait, which plunged US into an unnecessary war that could have been averted.
Same for idiot GW Bush who slept through an astonishing level of terrorist "chatter" intel and at least one alarming Presidential Daily Briefing that allowed his Attack On 9-11 to succeed without a hitch and led US into 2-3 unnecessary wars that could have been averted.
Same with idiot Donald Trump, who slept through all expert warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid as to defund and remove the highly regarded and successful Pandemic Prevention team leadership from those Chinese labs, leading directly to US losing more than a million citizen lives along with historic economic collapse and hardship.
These are examples of American numbskulls of whom I demanded restraint to the point of them resigning and nobody voting for anyone in their Party ever again. Obviously, my demands were not met. But I had plenty of justification in demanding it.
And I will add this; when I say Netanyahu is Israel's version of GW Bush and Donald Trump, there sure appears to me to be ample evidence of complicity with the enemy and near criminal negligence on National Security on Netanyahu's side to suggest the bloody conflict his country is embroiled in today could very likely have been averted as well had it not been for Netanyahu's GW Bush / Trump-like incompetence. I'm not seeing Netanyahu as just an innocent, blameless victim in his mess, buffetted by fate into a position where there was and is no possibility of mitigation or steering away from the storm anymore than I saw it in those three idiot Repub presidents of my own country:
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now its blown up in our faces.
The premiers policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from.
Oct 8, 2023
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
Why did Israel, Netanyahu knowingly neglect West Bank security in 2017? - analysis.
Feb. 28, 2023
https://m.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/article-733000
The border was just too long and not enough Israelis had been killed by West Bank border terrorism until March 2022.
The State Comptrollers Report about the severe lack of the Seam Line security fence in the West Bank is a story of how the whole security and political establishment abandoned the fence and border security in general.
MarquisdeSade1
12-25-24, 20:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AM3VDyVIpY
You're lashing out at the wrong people on the wrong point.
My point was regarding the 114890 votes for Trump instead of Harris. I am more in line with Harris' opinion of the conflict; that.
Israel has a right to defend itself and how it does so matters. The same as I felt about my country after the Attack On 9-11.
And that Harris was not in control of the factors that caused those 114,890 votes to swing from her to Trump in those three states and thereby "gave the presidency" to Trump.
Neither did Biden.
In fact, neither did Trump.
Netanyahu held the lever of control on the issue that "gave Trump the presidency" in that regard. Wittingly and willingly or not.
Now, if your follow up argument then is that, no, Hamas held all the levers on it and there was nothing Netanyahu could say or do to alter his and his alone decisions on this, go for it.
My larger point is that the media and political pundits would love nothing better than for Dems to please for the love of God stop doing whatever it is they do time and time again to recover the USA Economy from one Great Repub Downturn and Massive Jobs Destruction after another, examine their conscience for getting it so wrong this year, change their entire Party agenda and please start being more like Economy-Destroying Repubs. That is a bad idea. And not even remotely necessary based on what all the evidence and facts tell us about this election.
The reason Trump won instead of Harris is due to a very narrow demo decision in three battleground / swing states on an issue neither Harris nor, presumably, Trump had any control and nothing more than that.
As far as the assertion in your post Subject line goes, I dare to demand from MY OWN COUNTRY a level of restraint when it comes to fuck ups like GHW Bush sleeping through the warnings he got from our Iraq Ambassador for Saddam Hussain's inquiries about how he felt about him annexing Kuwait, which plunged US into an unnecessary war that could have been averted.
Same for idiot GW Bush who slept through an astonishing level of terrorist "chatter" intel and at least one alarming Presidential Daily Briefing that allowed his Attack On 9-11 to succeed without a hitch and led US into 2-3 unnecessary wars that could have been averted.
Same with idiot Donald Trump, who slept through all expert warnings not to do something so dangerous and stupid as to defund and remove the highly regarded and successful Pandemic Prevention team leadership from those Chinese labs, leading directly to US losing more than a million citizen lives along with historic economic collapse and hardship.
These are examples of American numbskulls of whom I demanded restraint to the point of them resigning and nobody voting for anyone in their Party ever again. Obviously, my demands were not met. But I had plenty of justification in demanding it.
And I will add this; when I say Netanyahu is Israel's version of GW Bush and Donald Trump, there sure appears to me to be ample evidence of complicity with the enemy and near criminal negligence on National Security on Netanyahu's side to suggest the bloody conflict his country is embroiled in today could very likely have been averted as well had it not been for Netanyahu's GW Bush / Trump-like incompetence. I'm not seeing Netanyahu as just an innocent, blameless victim in his mess, buffetted by fate into a position where there was and is no possibility of mitigation or steering away from the storm anymore than I saw it in those three idiot Repub presidents of my own country:
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now its blown up in our faces.
The premiers policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from.
Oct 8, 2023
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
Why did Israel, Netanyahu knowingly neglect West Bank security in 2017? - analysis.
Feb. 28, 2023
https://m.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/article-733000I was trying to make a very narrow point that wouldn't warrant covering the last few decades of US politics. Maybe I need to explain better.
1. You're right, Netanyahu and his security apparatus were complicit in Oct 7. No doubts about it. I hope after this is over, Israelis will make him take responsibility for his inaction and other trespasses as well.
2. That said, you'll have to forgive Netanyahu for defending his country to the best of his ability regardless whether it did or didn't somewhat, somehow, maybe contribute to Trump's win. I personally find your statement quite problematic. It doesn't take too much to enrage Arab-American voters, who, quite honestly, don't need any excuses to hate Israel. In this regard, the relentless MSM coverage of Ivy League occupiers "movement" and their uncritical parroting of Hamas lies about Gaza civilian casualties did more damage than Netanyahu could ever do.
3. Your response shows you misunderstood what I meant by saying some people wouldn't dare demand the same restrain from anyone else that they demand from Israel. It's probably my fault for not making it clear.
Israel is not sending troops overseas -- Israel is fighting for its own existence.
To illustrate, imagine that a few gangs of bloodthirsty, sadistic Belizeans are sent across the border by the Belize government to kill everyone they find in their path, be it a soldier or civilian man, woman or child. Imagine further that those gangs follow their orders with such intense medieval enthusiasm that it makes your blood curdle. Then, after they murdered 1,500 Americans, they proceed taking hundreds of American hostages back to Belize to hide behind their hostages as well as innocent Belizean bystanders, who, by the way, immediately take the streets of Belize cities and chant Glory to Our Leaders and Death to America. Oh, and I totally forgot to mention that the whole country of Belize is one densely populated urban area, with all kinds of military targets embedded within civilian infrastructure, which makes it IMPOSSIBLE to avoid civilian casualties despite the US military technological advances.
And did I also mention that the Belize government routinely sent rockets into the US for years with almost no reaction from the US? No? Well, they did.
So how about you? Would you demand from the United States to compromise with the terrorist government of Belize in order to avoid collateral damage? If yes, then would the US comply with your demands? Would ANY COUNTRY on this planet comply with such demands under similar circumstances?
I think you know the answer already.
* Since we're living in interesting times, let me state expressly that I have nothing against Belize and its people, that my Belize references were purely for illustration purposes, and that Belize is probably a wonderful country populated by friendly and peace-loving people (never been)..
Elvis 2008
12-26-24, 02:30
You're lashing out at the wrong people on the wrong point.No, you are as usual. You are so full of your usual Dem good, Republican bad nonsense that you NEVER criticize your own team even when they fuck up.
While you babble on about Arab Americans, the real Democratic turncoats were Jews. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-won-muslim-vote-larger-margin-than-jewish-vote.
Thirty-four percentage points separated Trump from Vice President Kamala Harris among Jewish voters, according to Fox News Voter Analysis. Harris won their support 66% to 32%. In 2020,69% voted for President Biden, 30% voted for Trump. That is +5 for Trump.
In the mean time, you demonized Arab Americans, but Muslim voters favored Harris. Trump won 32% of their vote, while Harris won 63%. In 2020, Biden had won 64% of the Muslim vote, and Trump had won 35%. That is a total of only +4 for Trump.
And who could blame the Jewish voters for being like this? Kamala left competent governor Josh Shapiro at the altar for the idiot Tim Walz. And they did as you just did and trashed Isreal's uber defender, Netanyahu. How dare you compare him to Trump!
There is nothing less to say other than Merry Fucking Christmas everyone and more importantly, Happy fucking Hanukkah! He he he.
No, you are as usual. You are so full of your usual Dem good, Republican bad nonsense that you NEVER criticize your own team even when they fuck up.
While you babble on about Arab Americans, the real Democratic turncoats were Jews. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-won-muslim-vote-larger-margin-than-jewish-vote.
Thirty-four percentage points separated Trump from Vice President Kamala Harris among Jewish voters, according to Fox News Voter Analysis. Harris won their support 66% to 32%. In 2020,69% voted for President Biden, 30% voted for Trump. That is +5 for Trump.
In the mean time, you demonized Arab Americans, but Muslim voters favored Harris. Trump won 32% of their vote, while Harris won 63%. In 2020, Biden had won 64% of the Muslim vote, and Trump had won 35%. That is a total of only +4 for Trump.
And who could blame the Jewish voters for being like this? Kamala left competent governor Josh Shapiro at the altar for the idiot Tim Walz. And they did as you just did and trashed Isreal's uber defender, Netanyahu. How dare you compare him to Trump!
There is nothing less to say other than Merry Fucking Christmas everyone and more importantly, Happy fucking Hanukkah! He he he.Assistant to the Presidents-elect, Donald Trump, had been campaigning for that 2nd Term run since 12:01 pm January 20,2017.
His reliably pro Repub Mainstream Media has been sane-washing his idiotic blather and normalizing his Anti-America, America-hating rhetoric and nonsensical "plans" for the economy and national security ever since that hour.
Kamala Harris had 107 days to campaign and get her message out about where the economy is, why, what her plans are as president regarding the economy, national security and foreign policy and to clear up almost 7 solid years of Trump / Repub / MSM lies about all of it.
She had to focus her time, the money and attention on the states that would matter, particularly PA, MI and WI, with perhaps GA, NV and Arizona to spare.
There was no time and, as it turned out, no value in her campaigning in every Blue State, no matter how interesting and more widely informative every campaign appearance might be to the broader demos around the country just so she could shore up and recover to full strength and beyond every historically Dem demo out there, especially if she wouldn't need them to win those states anyway.
Consequently, no one should be surprised that among the millions of Biden 2020 voters who didn't bother to vote because they are perfectly fine with their situation today and, what the hell, "bothsiders" assure us it doesn't matter who is president and how bad could it get no matter who wins anyay, that there were significant percentages of those demos who went missing for the Dem candidate this time.
The drop in demos for Harris is largely irrelevant. She didn't lose California, New York or Virginia because there was a drop in Dem demos she simply did not have time to rally back to awareness and sanity. In fact, she didn't lose any hisorically Blue state for that reason. She only lost PA, MI and WI for the reason I have stated and the campaign strategists on both sides will most sure come to realize and that only by a narrow margin.
With all this red herring talk about Harris or the Dems losing demos to Trump and the Repubs, where is the evidence of it in an outcome that would have had the Dems being sworn in as House Majority in about three weeks were it not for the unprecedented, outrageous undemocratic rigging and cheating by the NC Repubs, the "shocking" outcome of Ruby Red West Virginia, Montana and Ohio voting for Repub Senators and Assistant to the Presidents-elect Trump squeezing out a narrow win based solely on a relative handful of voters from a demo over which no Dem, Repub or domestic elected official had control or meaningful influence?
And this in a year where the Global Trend was fir "change" from the party in the top spot? LOL.
Sorry, it ain't there in the numbers and results.
I was trying to make a very narrow point that wouldn't warrant covering the last few decades of US politics. Maybe I need to explain better.
1. You're right, Netanyahu and his security apparatus were complicit in Oct 7. No doubts about it. I hope after this is over, Israelis will make him take responsibility for his inaction and other trespasses as well.
2. That said, you'll have to forgive Netanyahu for defending his country to the best of his ability regardless whether it did or didn't somewhat, somehow, maybe contribute to Trump's win. I personally find your statement quite problematic. It doesn't take too much to enrage Arab-American voters, who, quite honestly, don't need any excuses to hate Israel. In this regard, the relentless MSM coverage of Ivy League occupiers "movement" and their uncritical parroting of Hamas lies about Gaza civilian casualties did more damage than Netanyahu could ever do.
3. Your response shows you misunderstood what I meant by saying some people wouldn't dare demand the same restrain from anyone else that they demand from Israel. It's probably my fault for not making it clear.
Israel is not sending troops overseas -- Israel is fighting for its own existence.
To illustrate, imagine that a few gangs of bloodthirsty, sadistic Belizeans are sent across the border by the Belize government to kill everyone they find in their path, be it a soldier or civilian man, woman or child. Imagine further that those gangs follow their orders with such intense medieval enthusiasm that it makes your blood curdle. Then, after they murdered 1,500 Americans, they proceed taking hundreds of American hostages back to Belize to hide behind their hostages as well as innocent Belizean bystanders, who, by the way, immediately take the streets of Belize cities and chant Glory to Our Leaders and Death to America. Oh, and I totally forgot to mention that the whole country of Belize is one densely populated urban area, with all kinds of military targets embedded within civilian infrastructure, which makes it IMPOSSIBLE to avoid civilian casualties despite the US military technological advances.
And did I also mention that the Belize government routinely sent rockets into the US for years with almost no reaction from the US? No? Well, they did.
So how about you? Would you demand from the United States to compromise with the terrorist government of Belize in order to avoid collateral damage? If yes, then would the US comply with your demands? Would ANY COUNTRY on this planet comply with such demands under similar circumstances?
I think you know the answer already.
* Since we're living in interesting times, let me state expressly that I have nothing against Belize and its people, that my Belize references were purely for illustration purposes, and that Belize is probably a wonderful country populated by friendly and peace-loving people (never been)..Netanyahu hide his crimes behind war. Palestinians deserve a real country, as well as Israelians who were given, but USA have much more interest with Israel.
Netanyahu hide his crimes behind war. Palestinians deserve a real country.And they will have it but not before they learn how to live in peace with their neighbors.
For the umpteenth time: They had their independence, but they blew it by starting the war. Losing a war has consequences. A Frenchman who knows the history of his own country should understand it better than anyone.
Elvis 2008
12-27-24, 05:47
Kamala Harris had 107 days to campaignAnd whose fault is that? The Arab American Democrats? LOL.
The drop in demos for Harris is largely irrelevant. Votes do not matter? Yes, this is why you are Loony Tooms.
She had to focus her time, the money and attention on the states that would matter, particularly PA, MI and WI, with perhaps GA, NV and Arizona to spare. And yet she was up in the polls and in the betting markets until the VP debate. She followed up that bump in the road with incredibly idiotic comments about NC hurricane victims and it was all over after that.
Of course, there was time to recover, but the next problem was Democratic douches like yourself. If Trump is Hitler and Netanyahu is Trump, then Netanyahu is Hitler. It is hard to be more antisemitic than that. And then there was portraying Josh Shapiro as Hermann Goering. Dems may have won Pennsylvania if Shapiro had been chosen. If the Democratic douches like yourself were not so proArab and antisemitic, Kamala may have won. He he. Allah Akbar indeed!
No, you are as usual. You are so full of your usual Dem good, Republican bad nonsense that you NEVER criticize your own team even when they fuck up.
While you babble on about Arab Americans, the real Democratic turncoats were Jews. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-won-muslim-vote-larger-margin-than-jewish-vote.
Thirty-four percentage points separated Trump from Vice President Kamala Harris among Jewish voters, according to Fox News Voter Analysis. Harris won their support 66% to 32%. In 2020,69% voted for President Biden, 30% voted for Trump. That is +5 for Trump.
In the mean time, you demonized Arab Americans, but Muslim voters favored Harris. Trump won 32% of their vote, while Harris won 63%. In 2020, Biden had won 64% of the Muslim vote, and Trump had won 35%. That is a total of only +4 for Trump.
And who could blame the Jewish voters for being like this? Kamala left competent governor Josh Shapiro at the altar for the idiot Tim Walz. And they did as you just did and trashed Isreal's uber defender, Netanyahu. How dare you compare him to Trump!
There is nothing less to say other than Merry Fucking Christmas everyone and more importantly, Happy fucking Hanukkah! He he he.Interesting observation. It doesn't just apply to Jews and Muslims. Tooms probably could also come up with similar reasons why Harris lost because she got fewer votes than Biden among other groups. For example black men in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Or Hispanics. Suburban women, and so on. The fact is that you add up all these groups, including white males, and Harris lost by 2. 3 million popular votes and 86 electoral votes. Trump and Republicans may not have a mandate, as the country's still close to being split down the middle. But they won, and they get to call the shots.
His argument that Kamala didn't have enough time to get out her message doesn't ring true either. She was a lousy candidate, plain and simple. She would have lost if she'd been the nominee from the start. The Democrats might just have won the presidency if they'd run someone like Kyrsten Sinema, Joe Manchin or a middle-of-the-road governor against Trump, who also was a weak candidate IMHO. But the Democratic Party's moved too far to the left to nominate someone like them.
What's very curious is Tooms' rejection of the House results:
With all this red herring talk about Harris or the Dems losing demos to Trump and the Repubs, where is the evidence of it in an outcome that would have had the Dems being sworn in as House Majority in about three weeks were it not for the unprecedented, outrageous undemocratic rigging and cheating by the NC Repubs, the "shocking" outcome of Ruby Red West Virginia, Montana and Ohio voting for Repub Senators and Assistant to the Presidents-elect Trump squeezing out a narrow win based solely on a relative handful of voters from a demo over which no Dem, Repub or domestic elected official had control or meaningful influence?The Democrats lost the House popular vote by 4 million, and 2. 7%. Yet Democrats should have won the House? Somehow Republicans in North Carolina rigged and cheated more than Democrats in Illinois, Maryland, New York, New Mexico, etc. I don't get that.
https://www.cookpolitical.com/vote-tracker/2024/house
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AM3VDyVIpYYou admire one of America's Grand Oil Fa*s and ex-Trannies, Mr. Garrison.
I shall reply to the blasphemy in your other posts in due course.
And whose fault is that? The Arab American Democrats? LOL.
Votes do not matter? Yes, this is why you are Loony Tooms.
And yet she was up in the polls and in the betting markets until the VP debate. She followed up that bump in the road with incredibly idiotic comments about NC hurricane victims and it was all over after that.
Of course, there was time to recover, but the next problem was Democratic douches like yourself. If Trump is Hitler and Netanyahu is Trump, then Netanyahu is Hitler. It is hard to be more antisemitic than that. And then there was portraying Josh Shapiro as Hermann Goering. Dems may have won Pennsylvania if Shapiro had been chosen. If the Democratic douches like yourself were not so proArab and antisemitic, Kamala may have won. He he. Allah Akbar indeed!My assessment for why Biden dropped out has not changed since I posted it here the week it happened; Typically pro Repub Mainstream Media's collective gasp and way over-reaction to Biden's worsening with age verbal tick in the debate spooked the down ballot Dem donors and the money for their campaigns was pulled. He knew he would not have lost less than a 0. 9 point vote swing to Trump in PA, MI and WI and therefore win a 2nd term. But that might have come at the expense of more Repubs in the House and Senate. So he dropped out.
Meanwhile, Joe Biden's intellect, analytical skills, cognitive competence, experience, knowledge, preparedness and fitness for office, the attributes a person uses to do the job of president well, are all far superior this very day to any Repub presidential candidate or president ever.
Sure, if Harris has spent the last 7 years campaigning for November 5, 2024 the way Trump has then she would have had time to shore up any demos necessary. But her only deficit in hitting the 270 EC Votes she needed to win was a razor-thin swing in those three states, wherever it came from. It happened to come from a demo both sides courted but neither side was responsible for their grievance or the fix for it.
Aw, voters rushed to poor Trumpty-Dumpty because his VP pick and other meanies said bad things about him, calling him Hitler and all that. Poor baby. LOL.
After campaigning for 7 solid years, even the 114,890 angry Muslim voters who voted for him instead of Harris and thereby "gave Trump the presidency" already deeply regret that decision.
Trump is Hitler?
Trump is Netanyahu?
Nope.
Trump is Presidents-elect Musk, Ramaswamy and Bannon's boy, sucker. LOL.
Interesting observation. It doesn't just apply to Jews and Muslims. Tooms probably could also come up with similar reasons why Harris lost because she got fewer votes than Biden among other groups. For example black men in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Or Hispanics. Suburban women, and so on. The fact is that you add up all these groups, including white males, and Harris lost by 2. 3 million popular votes and 86 electoral votes. Trump and Republicans may not have a mandate, as the country's still close to being split down the middle. But they won, and they get to call the shots.
His argument that Kamala didn't have enough time to get out her message doesn't ring true either. She was a lousy candidate, plain and simple. She would have lost if she'd been the nominee from the start. The Democrats might just have won the presidency if they'd run someone like Kyrsten Sinema, Joe Manchin or a middle-of-the-road governor against Trump, who also was a weak candidate IMHO. But the Democratic Party's moved too far to the left to nominate someone like them. House Majorities are not determined by how many votes every Dem House candidate got across the country vs every Repub House candidate.
House districts are so gerrymandered that many if not most districts barely experience a true campaign. The candidates' party has chosen its voters and they simply wait for the election results to come in.
We don't know how many overall votes would be for Dems vs Repubs if districts were drawn strictly by population and not by Party affiliation, thereby requiring each Party's candidate to duke it out in a real campaign.
It may very well be that the only reason more Repubs vote for Repub House candidates is because the Repub Party gerrymanders their districts so tight within an inch on either side of a registered Repub that there is virtually no reason for a Dem to spend 1 dime or an afternoon campaigning there trying to reverse total insanity.
If the number of votes for Dem Senators vs Repub Senators as well as Dem presidential candidates vs Repub presidential candidates over the past 35 years is any indication of how outlawing gerrymandering would change the overall number of votes across the country for House Dems vs Repub Dems I would say Repubs better hope gerrymandering is never outlawed.
See, the kind of campaign I am talking about is where the candidates have to put some time into covering their particular district's needs while also actually explaining that, no, the unemployment rate is not at an all-time high, the stock market is not at an all-time low, the price of gasoline is not double where it hit in 2019, Joe Biden did not overturn Roe V Wade, yes, Joe Biden did drop out of the race and Kamala Harris is now the Dem presidential candidate and so on.
You know, basic information that sizable numbers and percentages of voters were actually unclear about, thanks to the wonderful world of typically pro Repub Mainstream Media, right up to and beyond November 5th.
PREVIEW OF COMING ATRACTIONS:
Trump's Pandemic, Part 2!
Trump transition team plans immediate WHO withdrawal, expert says.
Dec. 24, 2024
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-transition-team-plans-immediate-who-withdrawal-expert-says-2024-12-23/
Plan aligns with Trump's criticism of WHO, isolates U.S. from global health efforts
Trump nominated WHO critics to key health positions, including Robert F. Kennedy Jr
Critics warn U.S. withdrawal weakens WHO, boosts China's global health influence.
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The plan, which aligns with Trump's longstanding criticism of the U.N. health agency, would mark a dramatic shift in U.S. global health policy and further isolate Washington from international efforts to battle pandemics.
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Critics warn that a U.S. withdrawal could undermine global disease surveillance and emergency response systems.
"The U.S. would lose influence and clout in global health and China would fill the vacuum. I can't imagine a world without a robust WHO. But U.S. withdrawal would severely weaken the agency," Gostin said.Swear to god, Trump is such a suck-up and lacky to China, he is going to once again "defund and remove" far superior USA-Centric Pandemic Prevention teams and influence and hand it over to the country he left it to in late 2019.
That is when he left it up to China to keep and eye on emerging viruses and potential Pandemics, expecting them and not US to give the world a heads up about potential Pandemics soon enough to PREVENT a deadly, worldwide economy-destroying Pandemic from developing!
Remember how well that worked out last time he did that? Well, he's determined to do it again.
MarquisdeSade1
12-27-24, 21:27
I do not know what a Sovereign citizen is. I've seen Nick Gillespie on television once or twice and all I remember is that he's kind of Neanderthal looking. Charles Koch on the other hand, like his brother David, is a Genuine American Hero. The Koch Brothers donated billions to education, medicine and poverty alleviation. They've done much more to improve the USA than anyone posting on this board. More than Bernie's Benefactor George Soros.
Estimates of the number of innocent people sentenced to death run between 4% and 12% of the total number who were on death row.
Let's compare you and me.
The Marquesa:
1. Favors the execution of innocents.
2. Wants to either put trannies, gays and immigrants in death camps or kick them out of the country.
3. Wants to impoverish America with big government and Bernie Sanders socialist policies.
4. Has crushes on Steve Bannon and JAP (Jewish American Prince) Stephen Miller.
5. Wanted to overthrow 250 years of democracy in the United States of America in 2020.
The Reverend Tiny:
1. Favors a system like Singapore's Central Provident Fund, which would provide decent retirement and decent medical care to all, as well as money for education and a house.
2. Prefers individual freedom. If it doesn't hurt other people, then what people do is none of the government's damn business.
3. Prefers smaller government, along the lines of what has made the USA, Switzerland and Singapore the most prosperous decent-sized countries in the world.
4. Has crushes on Milton Friedman and Ronald Reagan.
Now who's evil?
Nevertheless Marquesa, I love you as I do all fellow humans.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!
- The Reverend Tiny.You sound just like the anti semitic Spidy.
1. Favors the execution of innocents.
2. Wants to either put trannies, gays and immigrants in death camps or kick them out of the country.
3. Wants to impoverish America.
4. Has crushes on Steve Bannon and JAP (Jewish American Prince) Stephen Miller.
5. Wanted to overthrow 250 years of democracy in the United States of America in 2020.
Spidy is that really you?
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