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Drbombay
12-15-20, 18:08
Most things said by Trumpites leave this impression. Read Elvis' posts here attacking science.So Riddle me this. I'm a fan of Trump but living here in Japan, for the last 3 years. Winter time mask wear is a normal occurrence in Japan. So why are cases increasing in places like Tokyo, and other areas, and the US Military has put certain areas in Tokyo and around Japan "off limits" to us due to their increase in cases, yet by and large the percentage of folks who wear a mask in Japan is far greater than that in the USA.

Paulie97
12-15-20, 18:44
So Riddle me this. I'm a fan of Trump but living here in Japan, for the last 3 years. Winter time mask wear is a normal occurrence in Japan. So why are cases increasing in places like Tokyo, and other areas, and the US Military has put certain areas in Tokyo and around Japan "off limits" to us due to their increase in cases, yet by and large the percentage of folks who wear a mask in Japan is far greater than that in the USA.Because even though Japan has seen a resurgence over the last month, the US daily cases counts are five times the rate of Japan when based on population, as to the recent information. Doing a bit of research usually trumps asking in a monger forum.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Also mask wearing can vary a lot in the US by region, meaning the more dumb rednecks, the fewer mask wearers.

ScatManDoo
12-15-20, 19:15
So Riddle me this. I'm a fan of Trump but living here in Japan, for the last 3 years. Winter time mask wear is a normal occurrence in Japan. So why are cases increasing in places like Tokyo, and other areasLike I am talking to a five year old:

Covid is currently spreading in most cities at this time. Tokyo is no different Skippy.

D Cups
12-17-20, 15:11
As Abraham Lincoln said "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt".Well then shut the fuck up, asshole!

ScatManDoo
12-17-20, 16:52
I do think that its rather cruel of members of this forum to beat up a harmless retired, overweight business professor like that. Shame on them. The poor old business professor only wants to marry his sweet 19 year old Illiterate Filipina fiance and live happily ever after in Pussy Heaven. What do you think an illiterate sex toy will be discussing with a Khao San Road instant PhD over a dinner of rice and err. Rice? Euclid's elements of geometry or King Agamemnon's quarrel in the Illiad?.Mad magazine's latest issue's pictures?

Blue Touch
12-19-20, 14:55
So Riddle me this. I'm a fan of Trump but living here in Japan, for the last 3 years. Winter time mask wear is a normal occurrence in Japan. So why are cases increasing in places like Tokyo, and other areas, and the US Military has put certain areas in Tokyo and around Japan "off limits" to us due to their increase in cases, yet by and large the percentage of folks who wear a mask in Japan is far greater than that in the USA.Mongers are just dumb.

The Cane
12-19-20, 17:18
Mad magazine's latest issue's pictures?Here's the cover shot.

ShooBree
12-19-20, 20:42
https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/18/expert-in-nyt-old-people-shouldnt-get-covid-vaccine-first-because-they-are-white/

Yikes, what's happening to USA? Terrorists have already take over Portland and now shit like this.

Beijing4987
12-19-20, 20:55
Here's the cover shot.Now I'll be on the cover every week and award myself the No Bell 🔔 Piece Prize every year.

Pardon me! What? Accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt according to a Supreme Court Rullng? I demand a recount!

Artisttyp
12-19-20, 21:15
Here's the cover shot.Are you sure?

Elvis 2008
12-19-20, 22:17
This is goes back to the Trump cultist idea that it's all a plot to turn the election. This while they fail to notice that masks and social distancing have been popular the world over, where no Democrats or Trumps exist. This gross oversight doesn't speak well for the average IQ of the Trumpite, to say the very least.Paulie, you arrogant blowhard, do you know the difference between a "scientist" without data and a lay person? Nothing! Fauci, you arrogant blowhard, said masks do not work and changed his mind. All this BS about social distancing, and you miss the point. 75% of cases of Covid are caught in the home. All this BS about essential businesses and social distancing then was for naught.

My favorite example of Democratic "science" though is global warming. Does the data support global warming? Hell no! CO2 levels went up from 1940 to 1980 while global temperatures went down. Newsweek magazine showed the earth covered in ice in 1975. We were all going to freeze to death unless man did something.

Fast forward 20 years and these same dumb shits who were wrong before saw temperatures going up, and they got together and said man was heating up the earth. If we didn't cut down on carbon emissions, we were all doomed due to global warming. For 20 years temperatures went up, and "scientists" proved global warming existed by taking a fucking poll.

Taking a poll is not science. It is Democratic "science". Temperatures did not rise high enough the next 10 years so did these "scientists" admit defeat? Fuck no! They changed global warming to climate change.

Shoot, every time there is a natural disaster. It is not nature but man made climate change.

The whole problem with global warming that these "scientists" leave out is the sun. The idea is that the amount of sunlight is constant when it is not and now these same scientists are hedging their bets. Start quote.

The sun may be dimming, temporarily. Don't panic; Earth is not going to freeze over. But will the resulting cooling put a dent in the global warming trend?

A periodic solar event called a "grand minimum" could overtake the sun perhaps as soon as 2020 and lasting through 2070, resulting in diminished magnetism, infrequent sunspot production and less ultraviolet (UV) radiation reaching Earth all bringing a cooler period to the planet that may span 50 years.

The last grand-minimum event a disruption of the sun's 11-year cycle of variable sunspot activity happened in the mid-17th century. Known as the Maunder Minimum, it occurred between 1645 and 1715, during a longer span of time when parts of the world became so cold that the period was called the Little Ice Age, which lasted from about 1300 to 1850.

End of quote.

So now all of sudden all those carbon emissions may save us from another ice age? LOL. You cannot make this shit up. But don't worry by 2070, global warming is coming. Of course, we will all be dead by then.

This is the epitome of Democratic "science", not data but poll driven consensus.

What kills me is that anyone who does not believe that man has a thermostat for the earth according to these lunatics is a "science" denying.

Hey, Paulie, you arrogant blowhard, it is raining where I am at, and I want to go fishing. Seeing as how you Democrats control the weather, how about dialing me up some sun?

ScatManDoo
12-20-20, 02:12
I demand a recount!Is this the seventh or eighth?

GDreams
12-20-20, 03:36
My favorite example of Democratic "science" though is global warming. Does the data support global warming? Hell no! CO2 levels went up from 1940 to 1980 while global temperatures went down. Newsweek magazine showed the earth covered in ice in 1975. We were all going to freeze to death unless man did something.

Fast forward 20 years and these same dumb shits who were wrong before saw temperatures going up, and they got together and said man was heating up the earth. If we didn't cut down on carbon emissions, we were all doomed due to global warming. For 20 years temperatures went up, and "scientists" proved global warming existed by taking a fucking poll.

Taking a poll is not science. It is Democratic "science". Temperatures did not rise high enough the next 10 years so did these "scientists" admit defeat? Fuck no! They changed global warming to climate change.

Shoot, every time there is a natural disaster. It is not nature but man made climate change.

The whole problem with global warming that these "scientists" leave out is the sun. The idea is that the amount of sunlight is constant when it is not and now these same scientists are hedging their bets. Start quote.Elvis I was born in 1960. No one in the 70's was talking ice age, greenhouse was already a term for global warming. Kyoto was in 91.

Republican idea of science is the book of Genesis!

The change in regard to wearing masks was that they will do little to protect against getting infected but they do significantly reduce the spread of infection by eliminating aerosols. That is science not faith!

GDreams
12-20-20, 03:40
So Riddle me this. I'm a fan of Trump but living here in Japan, for the last 3 years. Winter time mask wear is a normal occurrence in Japan. So why are cases increasing in places like Tokyo, and other areas, and the US Military has put certain areas in Tokyo and around Japan "off limits" to us due to their increase in cases, yet by and large the percentage of folks who wear a mask in Japan is far greater than that in the USA.Because in winter people spend more time indoors in close contact with other people making the risk of spread higher!

ScatManDoo
12-20-20, 18:43
Paulie, you arrogant blowhardElvis, you ignorant sluut!


Paulie, do you know the difference between a "scientist" without data and a lay person? Nothing!

My favorite example of Democratic "science" though is global warming. Does the data support global warming? Hell no! Of course it does, you stubborn Fox-washed knuckle dragger.

Multiple independently produced instrumental datasets show that the climate system is warming, with the 2009-2018 decade being 0.93 +/- 0.07 centigrade (1.67 +/- 0.13 F) warmer than the pre-industrial baseline (1850-1900). Currently, surface temperatures are rising by about 0.2 centigrade (0.36 F) per decade. Since 1950, the number of cold days and nights has decreased, and the number of warm days and nights has increased. Historical patterns of warming and cooling, like the Medieval Climate Anomaly and the Little Ice Age, did not occur at the same time across regions, but may have reached temperatures as high as those of the late-20th century in a limited set of regions. There have been prehistorical episodes of global warming, such as the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum. However, the modern observed rise in temperature and CO2 concentrations has been so rapid that even abrupt geophysical events that took place in Earth's history do not approach current rates.

ScatManDoo
12-21-20, 18:23
From Viagra and Covid vaccine manufacturer Pfizer:

"This week, we successfully shipped all 2. 9 million doses that we were asked to ship by the USA Government to the locations specified by them. We have millions more doses sitting in our warehouse but, as of now, we have not received any shipment instructions for additional doses".

I guess operation warp speed has to show enormous incompetency, for it to be believable as a Trump plan.

How many of today's newest infections could have been prevented by the millions of ready vaccines Trump officials chose to keep on the shelves?

Run Mann
12-28-20, 12:28
Rupert Murdock's conservative New York Post has had enough and is telling Trump to give it up. This is news because so many others in his party are unable or unwilling to tell the Pres he has lost the election and will no longer be president after Jan 20,2021.

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-up-mr-president-for-your-sake-and-the-nations/

The Cane
12-28-20, 13:30
Words and rhetoric. They matter. Especially when they come from somebody like the President.

ShooBree
12-29-20, 14:36
Obama the drug trafficker and protector of terrorists. Will Biden follow in his shameful footsteps? Too bad that the American people doesn't understand what's good for them, that or Trump's right regarding the numerous allegations of wide spread election fraud. USA reached a new low under Obama and Biden will probably undo all the progress Trump achieved during his four years. Trump is the greatest one-term President USA ever had.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/features/2018/11/28/Al-Arabiya-exclusive-documentary-reveals-Hezbollah-s-drug-trade-money-laundering-scheme.html

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/

ShooBree
12-29-20, 14:47
This will only get more frequent under and after the Biden administration. They've learned nothing by Europe and their problem with Islamic terrorists.

https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-terror-attack-suspect-sayfullo-saipov-entered-us-through-diversity-visa-program.amp

Beijing4987
12-29-20, 19:36
Words and rhetoric. They matter. Especially when they come from somebody like the President.All that was recovered was the man's hat and the gas cap from the vehicle. The surgeons worked for days to put Humpty Trumpty back together. Now he's running for Congress.

Paulie97
12-29-20, 19:42
Rupert Murdock's conservative New York Post has had enough and is telling Trump to give it up. This is news because so many others in his party are unable or unwilling to tell the Pres he has lost the election and will no longer be president after Jan 20,2021.

https://nypost.com/2020/12/27/give-it-up-mr-president-for-your-sake-and-the-nations/It's all a sham. Trump knows better. These charades have facilitated post election fund raising, that by some reports have exceeded 170 million dollars. Only 25% is required to go to legal fees. The rest is funneled to his new "Save America" PAC / into his own pocket.

These AM talk radio jocks also know better, and are as usual enriching themselves stirring the emotions of dumb people. Alex Jones surely knows better, but he's selling Covid cures over shortwave for $72. He has all sorts of worthless products for sale, bilking the hard earned money of ill educated Americans selling healthcare products for 50 to 100 dollars when the same stuff can be had at Walmart for 5 to 10. There's good $ in that game, just as Hannity, Tucker, David Duke, or Ken Matthews who is currently auditioning for Rush's job.

It's possible some of these Republican politicians backing Trump believe in the cause. Some real doofuses can manage to get elected, especially to Congress. Case in point would be that airhead Marjorie Taylor Greene of GA who openly supports QAnon. Most though are just whoring themselves out for political points, to maintain the support of Trump's cultic base.

It's all of course doomed to failure, but that doesn't matter to these folks. They are all getting what they are after.

ShooBree
12-29-20, 21:38
Words and rhetoric. They matter. Especially when they come from somebody like the President.What a shocker, you're wrong. It only goes to show how untrustworthy libtards are. Trump was so right about the fake news.

https://www.google.se/amp/s/amp.ibtimes.sg/anthony-warner-nashville-bombing-suspect-identified-trump-supporter-54482

The Cane
12-30-20, 02:31
What a shocker, you're wrong. It only goes to show how untrustworthy libtards are. Trump was so right about the fake news.

https://www.google.se/amp/s/amp.ibtimes.sg/anthony-warner-nashville-bombing-suspect-identified-trump-supporter-54482That trusted bastion of the truth the IB Times! I see that Shoetroll goes for whatever biased source happens to support his twisted views. Even a left leaning rag of dubious "distinction" if that's what it takes. Regardless of which photo is the correct one, the message is what's important, and it remains absolutely unchanged. Words and rhetoric matter. Proud Boys stand back and standby! Yes sir Mr. President!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/international-business-times/?amp

The Cane
12-30-20, 02:54
To be perfectly honest, I didn't care whether the photo was "legit" or not, and did no research behind it. You see, the Trumptards have been lying and misrepresenting the truth for 4 years straight without shame or apology. So, I enjoyed dishing out some of their own medicine! Just say it with no substantiation whatsoever to get a reaction, just like they do. In fact, I posted the photo specifically for ShooTroll knowing it would get his immediate attention. I'm surprised it took him so long to react actually. I guess he was researching his "trusted sources" such as the IB Times so he could tell me I'm wrong LOL! As if I was convinced it was true when I didn't care if it was true or not haha! Sorry ShooTroll, but it was a sucker punch, and you walked right into it! Screaming hoax! I don't care LOL!

Paulie97
12-30-20, 05:02
41 year old Louisiana Congressman elect Luke Letlow recently earned the right to serve but never will, dead from Covid. Yes it's something to take seriously.

"USA Sen. Bill Cassidy, a Republican and doctor who tested positive for COVID-19 earlier this year and has since recovered, posted in a Twitter video: "It just, just, just, just brings home COVID can kill. For most folks it doesn't, but it truly can. So, as you remember Luke, his widow, his children in your prayers, remember as well to be careful with COVID.'

https://apnews.com/article/health-monroe-louisiana-coronavirus-pandemic-shreveport-c76bcda2e5abd46a500763ed5a7e3440

PVMonger
12-30-20, 13:56
What a shocker, you're wrong. It only goes to show how untrustworthy libtards are. Trump was so right about the fake news.

https://www.google.se/amp/s/amp.ibtimes.sg/anthony-warner-nashville-bombing-suspect-identified-trump-supporter-54482Only tRUMPettes say "fake news". Oh, and AH used the term too, except he used "lying press".

ShooBree
12-30-20, 16:09
That trusted bastion of the truth the IB Times! I see that Shoetroll goes for whatever biased source happens to support his twisted views. Even a left leaning rag of dubious "distinction" if that's what it takes. Regardless of which photo is the correct one, the message is what's important, and it remains absolutely unchanged. Words and rhetoric matter. Proud Boys stand back and standby! Yes sir Mr. President!

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/international-business-times/?ampLMFAO! How pathetic are you? You lied and got caught! If you had any honesty or integrity you would apologize and feel ashamed. But you libtards got no shame! You lie time after time, it doesn't matter how many times you get caught.

You're a troll.

The Cane
12-30-20, 17:01
LMFAO! How pathetic are you? You lied and got caught! If you had any honesty or integrity you would apologize and feel ashamed. But you libtards got no shame! You lie time after time, it doesn't matter how many times you get caught.

You're a troll.I didn't care if the depiction in the photo was true of false. Do you really think I'm going to be that sloppy and just post up the first photo I see as "the truth"? LOL! I had my suspicions, but did not care to check it out. No, what I cared about was a reaction from you ShooTroll, and you didn't let me down. Hoax! Mission accomplished! LOLOLOL!

ScatManDoo
12-30-20, 17:02
LMFAO! How pathetic are you? You lied and got caught! If you had any honesty or integrity you would apologize and feel ashamed. But you libtards got no shame! You lie time after time, it doesn't matter how many times you get caught.

You're a troll.The shit move is Trump encouraging violence. Fortunately he will be put down soon.

Tavares
12-30-20, 17:09
LMFAO! How pathetic are you? You lied and got caught! If you had any honesty or integrity you would apologize and feel ashamed. But you libtards got no shame! You lie time after time, it doesn't matter how many times you get caught.

You're a troll.Let me guess: you also believe Trump won the election but that a conspiracy of supreme court justices, states officials, republican No Trumpers, BLMatter, the McCain family, you name it, denied him four more years he absolutely deserved. Where is he now that the pandemic is reaching new heights across the USA? Playing golf in Florida, of course.

You Trump supporters are pathetic. America will never be great again they way you want it to be because those days are long gone, the world has changed beyond recognition, the USA is now a melting pot of different races aware of their rights, in Miami you hear more spanish than english, China will overtake America's GDP in less that 10 years, there is no turning back the clock.

And did Trump followed on his promises? Are coal jobs back in West Virginia? Isn't Rocket Man still in power? Did he inject himself with bleach? It is a never ending list of broken promises and misleading if not false statements. Tax breaks for the rich and crumbs for the middle class. He took you for a ride and you seem to like it. Pathetic.

ShooBree
12-30-20, 21:31
Let me guess: you also believe Trump won the election but that a conspiracy of supreme court justices, states officials, republican No Trumpers, BLMatter, the McCain family, you name it, denied him four more years he absolutely deserved. Where is he now that the pandemic is reaching new heights across the USA? Playing golf in Florida, of course.

You Trump supporters are pathetic. America will never be great again they way you want it to be because those days are long gone, the world has changed beyond recognition, the USA is now a melting pot of different races aware of their rights, in Miami you hear more spanish than english, China will overtake America's GDP in less that 10 years, there is no turning back the clock.

And did Trump followed on his promises? Are coal jobs back in West Virginia? Isn't Rocket Man still in power? Did he inject himself with bleach? It is a never ending list of broken promises and misleading if not false statements. Tax breaks for the rich and crumbs for the middle class. He took you for a ride and you seem to like it. Pathetic.Yawn, funny that you mentioned Miami considering that Florida voted for Trump! The Latinos turned away from the Democratic Party and their crazy ideas. That despite of the medias radical left-wing propaganda against Trump. Neither the Cubans or Venezuelans are impressed by the Dems foreign policies.

The Democrats is the most racist and sexist party to ever have existed in US history. No self-respecting White man can ever vote for them.

Trump did a great job according to those who elected him president in 2016, so who are you to complain? You don't seem to know much about politics when you seem to believe that everything a candidate says will come true. Maybe you should read up on how politics works?

It's extremely ridiculous to see how you're trying to politicize a pandemic. Go and cry some more.

ShooBree
12-30-20, 21:35
The shit move is Trump encouraging violence. Fortunately he will be put down soon.Actually quite the opposite. It's always been and will always be the libtards who are encouraging violence. Just look at BLM, anti-fa and the fake news media. They never respected the outcome of the election in 2016. You don't even know what democracy is, to you democracy is when your candidate wins. Otherwise it's "threat against democracy". You're disgusting and the true threat against democracy.

ShooBree
12-30-20, 21:36
Only tRUMPettes say "fake news". Oh, and AH used the term too, except he used "lying press".Ever heard of Godwin's law?

How pathetic.

ShooBree
12-30-20, 21:40
I honestly wonder what's the point of this part of the forum. There's no discussion of politics, just a bunch of old, fat libtards spewing their fake news and hatred against democracy and the current president.

Whenever I bring up real politics, only crickets. They're not interested in politics, they just want to spread their hate, lies and propaganda.

ScatManDoo
12-31-20, 00:28
Actually quite the opposite. It's always been and will always be the libtards who are encouraging violence. Just look at BLM, anti-fa and the fake news media. They never respected the outcome of the election in 2016. You don't even know what democracy is, to you democracy is when your candidate wins. Otherwise it's "threat against democracy". You're disgusting and the true threat against democracy.Wah wah wah wah.

Hahahaha. Your comments are so empty and meaningless (white noise).

ScatManDoo
12-31-20, 02:25
Actually quite the opposite. It's always been and will always be the libtards who are encouraging violence.I guess if you are wrong about what's happened in the past, your predictions of the future will miss the mark also.

Hahahaha. You are a laughing stock.

With these types of deluded residents, no wonder Sweden fucked up royally and harshly their strategy of dealing with covid.

Revere
12-31-20, 02:50
Does not matter if your the President your not above the law. Trump is fighting to stay in power because he knows what is coming. You cannot pardon yourself to prevent prosecution. Also, you play a dangerous game when you start pardoning family members because they no longer can plead the 5th. They have to testify when called and if they lie they will go down for perjury.

Most of you all are not from NYC because if you were you would have heard all the horror stories of how Trump screwed over honest hard working contractors who worked on his projects then Trump stiffed them at the end through litigation so he would not have to pay them. I got no love for people like that as they are criminals and for those of you who support that type a behavior then what does that make you.

The one thing about New York that many of you do not know is it still has the two strongest prosecution offices in the country: The Manhattan District Attorneys office which has hired FIT, the best forensic accounting firm in the world to go after Trump and on the Federal Level the Southern District. You do not want to be in there cross hairs and they have been waiting. They are about to get busy as when you screw over big money it might take time, but they will get you. By the way, a few days ago the Banker who works for the only bank that funded Trumps deals was forced to resign from Deustch Bank. What that says is the bank just told that banker we are not protecting you because you should have done better due diligence when it came to Trump bank financed deals. Time to get your popcorn ready!

Now was anything I just said fake news.

Elvis 2008
12-31-20, 03:45
Elvis I was born in 1960. No one in the 70's was talking ice ageHow long does it take you to google 1970's and global cooling?

"The central fact is that, after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the Earth seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. " – Newsweek: April 28,1975.

You are a Democrat GDreams, so I will give you that almost unanimous and no one are much the same thing. A Democratic "scientist" is more about the title than the data.


Republican idea of science is the book of Genesis!
Yes, the notion that God or mother nature or even the sun has anything to do with the climate is crazy. It is all man made climate.

Gdreams, I am looking a little pale. Can you turn up the sunlight tomorrow? I need to work on my tan.

ScatManDoo
12-31-20, 06:36
My favorite example of Democratic "science" though is global warming. Does the data support global warming? Hell no!.Of course it does, you ignorant guy referencing 1975 news stories trying to make irrelevant arguments.

Multiple independently produced instrumental datasets show that the climate system is warming, with the 2009-2018 decade being 0.93 +/- 0.07 centigrade (1.67 +/- 0.13 F) warmer than the pre-industrial baseline (years 1850 to 1900). Currently, surface temperatures are rising by about 0.2 centigrade (0.36 F) per decade. Since 1950, the number of cold days and nights has decreased, and the number of warm days and nights has increased. Historical patterns of warming and cooling, like the Medieval Climate Anomaly and the Little Ice Age, did not occur at the same time across regions, but may have reached temperatures as high as those of the late-20th century in a limited set of regions. There have been prehistorical episodes of global warming, such as the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum. However, the modern observed rise in temperature and CO2 concentrations has been so rapid that even abrupt geophysical events that took place in Earth's history do not approach current rates.

ShooBree
12-31-20, 11:57
I didn't care if the depiction in the photo was true of false. Do you really think I'm going to be that sloppy and just post up the first photo I see as "the truth"? LOL! I had my suspicions, but did not care to check it out. No, what I cared about was a reaction from you ShooTroll, and you didn't let me down. Hoax! Mission accomplished! LOLOLOL!Wow, you just never stop with the lies. Its strange that you are not better lying considering the numerous lies that you've told.

However, you do admit that you're just a pathetic, lying troll.

ShooBree
12-31-20, 11:59
Wah wah wah wah.

Hahahaha. Your comments are so empty and meaningless (white noise).What else to expect from you, I didn't expect you to change your crooked ways.

ShooBree
12-31-20, 12:08
I guess if you are wrong about what's happened in the past, your predictions of the future will miss the mark also.

Hahahaha. You are a laughing stock.

With these types of deluded residents, no wonder Sweden fucked up royally and harshly their strategy of dealing with covid.Haha, you're so fucking stupid. My party has never been in government in Sweden. I'm absolutely innocent to the mess Sweden is today. The country got destroyed by libtards like you with their moronic migration policy.

The COVID-19 strategy in Sweden was much better than the mess we see in blue states in USA. Your beloved libtard politicians are not only hypocrites and liar which ignored the restrictions they had implemented themselves, they also managed to cause a economic havoc and more deaths than Sweden.

PVMonger
12-31-20, 14:56
Ever heard of Godwin's law?

How pathetic.Why is it that you are the only one that's correct? AH's speeches often referred to "Lügenpresse. This is a well-documented fact. (By FACT I refer to a real fact not an alternative one) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/10/24/the-ugly-history-of-luegenpresse-a-nazi-slur-shouted-at-a-trump-rally/.

Why is it that YOU, even though you want us to believe that you are a reasonable human being, constantly refer to liberals as libtards? That doesn't sound reasonable to me.

I suppose you think trump's reelection was stolen, too.

Talk about pathetic.

ScatManDoo
12-31-20, 18:08
Haha, you're so fucking stupid. My party has never been in government in Sweden. I'm absolutely innocent to the mess Sweden is today. The country got destroyed by libtards like you with their moronic migration policy.Sweden got destroyed by Covid because they are too fucking lazy to take appropriate heath and safety measures. You are just too fucking lazy lying with a keyboard in your basement eating pickeled herring and masterbating with your fish-oil greasy fingers.


The COVID-19 strategy in Sweden was much better than the mess we see in blue states in USA.You are absolutely right in pointing out the United States failings in dealing with Covid from our our failed President, who apparently wants more death and destruction.

Paulie97
12-31-20, 18:19
"When we talk in private, I haven't heard a single Congressional Republican allege that the election results were fraudulent -- not one," Sasse wrote. "Instead, I hear them talk about their worries about how they will 'look' to President Trump's most ardent supporters."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9102363/Ben-Sasse-says-private-not-one-GOP-member-believes-election-fraudulent.html

This putrid autocracy comes to an end in three weeks, in spite of all the kicking and screaming.

Happy New Year.

Tavares
01-01-21, 11:27
Yawn, funny that you mentioned Miami considering that Florida voted for Trump! The Latinos turned away from the Democratic Party and their crazy ideas. That despite of the medias radical left-wing propaganda against Trump. Neither the Cubans or Venezuelans are impressed by the Dems foreign policies.

The Democrats is the most racist and sexist party to ever have existed in US history. No self-respecting White man can ever vote for them.

Trump did a great job according to those who elected him president in 2016, so who are you to complain? You don't seem to know much about politics when you seem to believe that everything a candidate says will come true. Maybe you should read up on how politics works?

It's extremely ridiculous to see how you're trying to politicize a pandemic. Go and cry some more.

No I am not crying, on the contrary, I am elated at Biden's victory. Answer please one simple question: do you think the election was stolen and, borrowing his own words. that Trump won BIG?

ShooBree
01-01-21, 12:48
Sweden got destroyed by Covid because they are too fucking lazy to take appropriate heath and safety measures. You are just too fucking lazy lying with a keyboard in your basement eating pickeled herring and masterbating with your fish-oil greasy fingers.

You are absolutely right in pointing out the United States failings in dealing with Covid from our our failed President, who apparently wants more death and destruction.LMFAO! You really should start living in the real word instead of your libtard bubble. Sweden is still doing better than many countries with lockdowns. You would have known that if you cared more about facts than your little libtard fantasies. But we do have a problem with having way too many immigrants.

It's amazing how you libtards always refuses to take any responsibility for your failures. Are you unaware of the hypocrisy and lies from liberal politicians like the one in Cali with his pants on fire, the old lizard woman and that ugly female (though she looks like a man) mayor with the awful haircut.

ShooBree
01-01-21, 12:52
No I am not crying, on the contrary, I am elated at Biden's victory. Answer please one simple question: do you think the election was stolen and, borrowing his own words. that Trump won BIG?Well it's obvious that the libtards feel no boundaries or decency.

BigBuddy69
01-01-21, 17:58
LMFAO! You really should start living in the real word instead of your libtard bubble. Sweden is still doing better than many countries with lockdowns.And terribly worse than the other Nordic countries with a lockdown.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20) 32750-1/ fulltext.

Drbombay
01-01-21, 18:50
I had said in other forums that give it until Fall 2021 and things will get better. Lo and behold latest from Dr. Fauci was that he expects the US to start to return to normal until near the end of 2021. In other words, the Winter Games in Beijing will go on as expected and the international flights will start back in full swing making their Asia rounds, and other variants of COVID will be deemed more transmissible but less deadly (I. E. A bad cold). As we continue on down the road in 2021 we will see more organizations and governments start moving in this direction.

Don't get me wrong, not trying to say this whole thing is a hoax, lost a few folks I knew, but the approaches that have been taken leave me to be suspect on a few things. I. E. They were not doing as best as they could while Trump was in office but now that he's out, look at this we have a clear way ahead but if he would have mentioned, it nothing but claims of a hoax, etc.

I hope Fauci is right, the vaccines work and people can start back getting to normal, but quit playing around and give us the truth and let us decide what we need to do.

ScatManDoo
01-01-21, 18:53
LMFAO! You really should start living in the real word instead of your libtard bubble. Sweden is still doing better than many countries with lockdowns. You are the one living in a fantasy world if you believe Sweden is doing better than their neighbor countries.

Their neighboring countries are monitoring the real situation. Many of Sweden's neighbors, who have taken steps to avoid spread, don't want Swede visitors to their country.

Sweden's COVID-19 death toll is nearly six times the combined number in neighboring Denmark, Norway and Finland as well as Iceland, all of which adopted stricter measures.

Tavares
01-01-21, 18:53
Well it's obvious that the libtards feel no boundaries or decency.

Let's not beat about the bush. Answer please: did Trump win or not?

ScatManDoo
01-01-21, 18:55
No I am not crying, on the contrary, I am elated at Biden's victory. Answer please one simple question: do you think the election was stolen and, borrowing his own words. that Trump won BIG?Shobee has to run away and avoid answering your question.

ShooBree
01-01-21, 19:13
Let's not beat about the bush. Answer please: did Trump win or not?I could answer the question but since I don't like you nor respect you I couldn't care less what you want.

I'm just happy that you can celebrate with the CCP and all the diaper heads in Tehran. Great company you have.

Paulie97
01-01-21, 21:02
Now it's down to Rudy Giuliana and Vanilla Ice, hardly a graceful exit. LOL.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/01/politics/mar-a-lago-new-years-eve/index.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNJ8_Dh3Onk

Tavares
01-01-21, 23:55
I could answer the question but since I don't like you nor respect you I couldn't care less what you want.

I'm just happy that you can celebrate with the CCP and all the diaper heads in Tehran. Great company you have.I understand it is hard for you to admit your hero failed miserably with more than 7 million votes behind Biden.

But I'm wondering if Trump is going to return the money people paid for four-figure tickets to a party he ditched yesterday. Let go swindler, forget about 4 more years and pay the money you owe to american taxpayers. ShooBree, your hero is pathetic, in fact you are both pathetic.

ShooBree
01-02-21, 14:07
Shobee has to run away and avoid answering your question.Haha, I though that you had embarrassed yourself enough on here, but apparently not.

ShooBree
01-02-21, 14:10
And terribly worse than the other Nordic countries with a lockdown.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20) 32750-1/ fulltext.Oh, and now you're on here cherry-picking as well. Shouldn't you be more concerned with the epic failures of your own country?

Funny have you have an opinion about a country that's doing so much better than yours. I get this is why we call you bigtroll.

ShooBree
01-02-21, 14:37
You are the one living in a fantasy world if you believe Sweden is doing better than their neighbor countries.

Their neighboring countries are monitoring the real situation. Many of Sweden's neighbors, who have taken steps to avoid spread, don't want Swede visitors to their country.

Sweden's COVID-19 death toll is nearly six times the combined number in neighboring Denmark, Norway and Finland as well as Iceland, all of which adopted stricter measures.Oh, I see that you're out cherry-picking. You forgot to mention that the population of Sweden is much larger than any of the countries that you mentioned. Roughly 30 times more people lives in Sweden than Iceland, which is a tiny island far away from the rest of Europe. Not only is Sweden a country with a much larger population we also have a much percentage of immigrants which plays a big part.

You made two other big mistakes, there are more factors to take into account than the death toll and secondly no one knows the true number of deaths caused by COVID-19. You're too daft to understand that.

Anyways as a Swedish citizen I'm extremely pleased that the government (although by the wrong reasons) refrained from implementing populist lockdowns. I've seen how the lockdowns failed in country after country. You're just too stupid to understand that.

You're also required to answer the question how long the draconian measurements should have stayed in place given the absence of a vaccine? Also shouldn't we have lockdowns because of the regular flu as well? You know, to save lives?

There are currently 7 times more COVID-19 related deaths in Spain than in Portugal. That must seem inexplicable to you given that they are neighbors and Spain's had even stricter restrictions than Portugal.

It's hilarious to see how out of touch with reality you're, actually it's Sweden who refused to let Danes into Sweden. You should leave your bubble and learn some real facts.

https://www.thelocal.se/20201221/sweden-blocks-travel-from-denmark-over-virus-fears

In cases you missed it, there are currently less deaths per capita in Sweden than in the best country of Europe, Switzerland.

ShooBree
01-02-21, 14:46
I understand it is hard for you to admit your hero failed miserably with more than 7 million votes behind Biden.

But I'm wondering if Trump is going to return the money people paid for four-figure tickets to a party he ditched yesterday. Let go swindler, forget about 4 more years and pay the money you owe to american taxpayers. ShooBree, your hero is pathetic, in fact you are both pathetic.Trump is the best American President since the 80's. I love how he still manages to make a pathetic libtard like you cry like a little baby.

Although Trump's great in comparison to Obama, Rodham and Biden I still wouldn't consider him a "hero". Another failed guess from you. Can you get anything right? Just an honest question from my part.

Beer 30
01-02-21, 16:01
The problem is that the 1% would very soon become 10%, 20%, 30%, and so on, if the authorities would not fuck the lives of the 99%. Or if a significant part of the 99% does not want to listen to the authorities, which is exactly what is happening in the USA and many other places.Sitting in the USA right now, this past month I got to spend time with nearly 100 friends. Nearly 75% have tested positive for Covid and only 1 was admitted to the hospital early on for treatment. Most, including me, didn't know we had Covid until we took one of the tests. Not sure what the 10, 20, 30% you are talking about but nearly all of the people I know that had it are against lockdowns and see no need as the "get it and you will die" rhetoric is on the nightly news is proving false.

Chocha Monger
01-02-21, 16:13
Let's not beat about the bush. Answer please: did Trump win or not?He lost big! Only idiots dispute that fact.

PedroMorales
01-02-21, 16:21
Sitting in the USA right now, this past month I got to spend time with nearly 100 friends. Nearly 75% have tested positive for Covid and only 1 was admitted to the hospital early on for treatment. Most, including me, didn't know we had Covid until we took one of the tests. Not sure what the 10, 20, 30% you are talking about but nearly all of the people I know that had it are against lockdowns and see no need as the "get it and you will die" rhetoric is on the nightly news is proving false.I know people fighting in ICUs for their lives with C19. I do not go into crowds where 70% have C19 and I don't want to know anyone who does. Your alleged complacency is like the C19 parties students have.

ScatManDoo
01-02-21, 17:15
Oh, I see that you're out cherry-picking. You forgot to mention that the population of Sweden is much larger than any of the countries that you mentioned. Roughly 30 times more people lives in Sweden than Iceland, which is a tiny island far away from the rest of Europe.Talk about cherry picking, and distortion of numbers, you only mention Iceland to make you dishonest distortion.

I said:


Sweden's COVID-19 death toll is nearly six times the combined number in neighboring Denmark, Norway and Finland as well as Iceland, all of which adopted stricter measures.Sweden's current population is around 10.4 million. The combined population of Denmark, Norway, Finland and Iceland is around 17 million. A combined population 60% greater than Sweden with 1/6th the Covid death toll. The government of Sweden is the Great Grim Reaper!

But you try to distort the facts by only singling out Iceland, with a population of around 365,000 while the other three counties I mentioned in the combined statistic each exceed 5 million in population.


Not only is Sweden a country with a much larger population we also have a much percentage of immigrants which plays a big part.You clearly lack enough skill with the English language to write coherent sentences. I've got to realize it is unfair to debate someone stupid and lacking education.

ScatManDoo
01-02-21, 20:02
Although Trump's great in comparison to Obama, Rodham and Biden I still wouldn't consider him a "hero". Another failed guess from you. Can you get anything right? Just an honest question from my part.ShooBree the stupid Swede makes these great debate points.

This is his level of debate.

Like we are talking to a nine year old.

SMH.

Paolo99
01-02-21, 21:06
Millions of people believe exactly that.

The fundamental problem is many people don't sufficiently understand the science to realize how destructive this virus is when left unchecked. Or maybe part of the problem might be that millions are still blindly believing whatever the mainstream media is feeding them with or the propaganda of their own government.


They refuse to abandon their fun times now to save lives and have a better future. Even though we are on a forum which purpose is mainly to talk about fun times, the huge majority of people that consider lockdowns being counterproductive is because these lockdowns are destroying millions of people lives.

And I have a hard time picturing the better future that you're talking about when the only thing I'm seeing is lockdowns being enforced over and over.


They don't care if somebody else suffers or dies.This is the center of the problem. You're mostly thinking of people directly suffering or dying of covid while others aknowledge that a much bigger proportion of people are suffering economically and psychologically from these lockdowns.

The Cane
01-02-21, 23:48
ShooBree the stupid Swede makes these great debate points.

This is his level of debate.

Like we are talking to a nine year old.

SMH.Never argue with a fool, for he will bring you down to his level, and he is more comfortable down there.

Mr Enternational
01-03-21, 00:03
The "they" are sometimes called "the elite", you should understand very wealthy and very influential people along with many top leaders of the westernized and affiliated governments (if you want to read names, these are the Klaus Schwab, the Rockfellers and many others from their tribe).
So what do you plan on doing about "THEM"?

ShooBree
01-03-21, 00:43
Talk about cherry picking, and distortion of numbers, you only mention Iceland to make you dishonest distortion.

I said:

Sweden's current population is around 10.4 million. The combined population of Denmark, Norway, Finland and Iceland is around 17 million. A combined population 60% greater than Sweden with 1/6th the Covid death toll. The government of Sweden is the Great Grim Reaper!

But you try to distort the facts by only singling out Iceland, with a population of around 365,000 while the other three counties I mentioned in the combined statistic each exceed 5 million in population.

You clearly lack enough skill with the English language to write coherent sentences. I've got to realize it is unfair to debate someone stupid and lacking education.So in other words you admit that you're cherry-picking, great!

It's great to see that you finally admit that you're without any proper education. It's pretty embarrassing that you can't even read and understand English, do you speak any other language? I'm fluent in several different languages so if you feel more comfortable with another language it's no problem for me.

You could also apologize for only quoting and answering two out of seven paragraphs. It's almost like you're scared of me and unable to retort.

ShooBree
01-03-21, 00:45
ShooBree the stupid Swede makes these great debate points.

This is his level of debate.

Like we are talking to a nine year old.

SMH.You're making me laugh. Your lack of self-awareness is laughable. You're a pathetic joke.

EihTooms
01-03-21, 03:20
Or maybe part of the problem might be that millions are still blindly believing whatever the mainstream media is feeding them with or the propaganda of their own government.

Even though we are on a forum which purpose is mainly to talk about fun times, the huge majority of people that consider lockdowns being counterproductive is because these lockdowns are destroying millions of people lives.

And I have a hard time picturing the better future that you're talking about when the only thing I'm seeing is lockdowns being enforced over and over.

This is the center of the problem. You're mostly thinking of people directly suffering or dying of covid while others aknowledge that a much bigger proportion of people are suffering economically and psychologically from these lockdowns.It seems to me the "elites" of which you speak would be the people who publicly proclaimed it to be a "HOAX!", that "there is 1 case out of China, only 15 cases here and that will be near zero soon", that "we've got this under control", "this virus harms almost nobody", "it will go away without a vaccine", "there will be no coronavirus in the Fall", etc in order to argue against any mitigation measures, lockdowns and curfews to influence you to ignore the warnings and continue to buy stuff 24/7 all while they are on tape privately telling authors it is very serious, "bad", many times worse than the flu, highly infectious even for young people and so on.

What exactly is the evil motive for the mitigation measures, lockdown and curfew crowd again?

Despite the persistent effort from the earliest days by the ones I quoted above to discourage any effort to invent a vaccine for this virus or to even consider one might be necessary, a bunch of scientists did invent some vaccines anyway. And once we get the King of Chaos on his way to the golf course, the penitentiary or wherever and as far away from the levers of power as possible there will eventually be enough jabs of the vaccine in enough arms to put the lockdowns, curfews and whack-a-mole business closures behind us.

And, as bad as lockdowns are, that end will come with many more people still alive to get jabs (and buy stuff 24/7!) than would have been the case if we'd only listened to the "HOAX!" crowd 10 months ago.

Mogwai
01-03-21, 08:19
Sitting in the USA right now, this past month I got to spend time with nearly 100 friends. Nearly 75% have tested positive for Covid and only 1 was admitted to the hospital early on for treatment. Most, including me, didn't know we had Covid until we took one of the tests. Not sure what the 10, 20, 30% you are talking about but nearly all of the people I know that had it are against lockdowns and see no need as the "get it and you will die" rhetoric is on the nightly news is proving false.75% positive is an alarming number, so I think you've made that up and are exaggerating just to prove your point.
But let's assume it's true. How many other people were infected by this 75%? And how many of these other people ended up in hospital with serious symptoms? And how many of them died? Most likely quite a lot.
Even with the lockdowns hospitals all over the world are overwhelmed by Covid19 patients. Without lockdowns and other methods, like keeping distance and face masks, the situation would be even more dramatic. For people as well as the economy.

Beno69
01-03-21, 10:16
.... And once we get the King of Chaos on his way to the golf course, the penitentiary or wherever and as far away from the levers of power as possible there will eventually be enough jabs of the vaccine in enough arms to put the lockdowns, curfews and whack-a-mole business closures behind us.

.... if we'd only listened to the "HOAX!" crowd 10 months ago.

What you like to tell us? Is it a Hoax like yor crazy golfplayer told. Or is it good, that the crazy President pushed them to invent a vaccine against a hoax?

BigBuddy69
01-03-21, 10:44
ShooBree the stupid Swede makes these great debate points.

This is his level of debate.

Like we are talking to a nine year old.

SMH.What else would you expect from someone supporting trump and Bolsonaro?

EihTooms
01-03-21, 12:03
What you like to tell us? Is it a Hoax like yor crazy golfplayer told. Or is it good, that the crazy President pushed them to invent a vaccine against a hoax?No current president of the USA pushed anybody to invent a vaccine. The inventors all around the world were already swinging into action to invent one as early as February/March of last year when the only current president of the USA that I know about was still on the world stage trying to convince everyone nobody should bother doing anything about it (although he obviously knew better) since the risk was only a politically motivated "HOAX!", mocking mitigation efforts, that there would be near zero cases any minute now, it would go away on its own without a vaccine and would surely be gone on its own by April or by the Fall at the latest.

BigBuddy69
01-03-21, 15:23
So in other words you admit that you're cherry-picking, great!Actually he just said the total opposite but you have serious issues with reading and understanding.

ShooBree
01-03-21, 15:26
What else would you expect from someone supporting trump and Bolsonaro?Everyone with a functioning brain supports Trump and Bolsonaro. You're a braindead libtard.

PVMonger
01-03-21, 15:48
{SNIP} In cases you missed it, there are currently less deaths per capita in Sweden than in the best country of Europe, Switzerland.I guess Denmark (237 deaths / million), Germany (416), Ireland (454), Norway (80) Portugal (692) have left Europe since all have fewer deaths per capita than Sweden.

HorseTrader
01-03-21, 17:42
... it would go away on its own without a vaccine and would surely be gone on its own by April or by the Fall at the latest.Probably true statements. The only question is what year.

ScatManDoo
01-03-21, 18:04
He lost big! Only idiots dispute that fact.Don't forget Shoobee the stupid Swede.

When he's asked to state whether Trump won or lost.

He shrinks and melts into a corner, unable to process and answer the question. Like the question is his Kryptonite that's killing him.

Hahahahaha.

Tavares
01-03-21, 18:23
There are currently 7 times more COVID-19 related deaths in Spain than in Portugal. That must seem inexplicable to you given that they are neighbors and Spain's had even stricter restrictions than Portugal.

In cases you missed it, there are currently less deaths per capita in Sweden than in the best country of Europe, Switzerland.

In the last 7 days there were on average 69,9 deaths in Portugal and 144,7 in Spain...7 times more? stricter measures in Spain? no, the same.

Deaths per 100.000 in Sweden currently: 0,6; Belgium: 0,6; France, Netherlands, Denmark, 0,5; Spain: 0,3; Finland, Iceland and Norway: less than 0,1.

So you see, Sweden is the worst amongst nordic countries...probably because of that stupid idea of herd immunity.

More Trump style lies or you got your numbers wrong?

ShooBree
01-03-21, 18:29
Deaths per capita in Sweden currently: 0,6; Belgium: 0,6; France, Netherlands, Denmark, 0,5; Spain: 0,3; Finland, Iceland and Norway: less than 0,1.

More lies or you got your numbers wrong?Your numbers are incorrect and make no sense.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

ShooBree
01-03-21, 18:31
Actually he just said the total opposite but you have serious issues with reading and understanding.You're the moron who doesn't understand sarcasm. Unlike you I can read between the lines.

BigBuddy69
01-03-21, 19:16
In cases you missed it, there are currently less deaths per capita in Sweden than in the best country of Europe, Switzerland.And in case you missed it it has been the opposite during something like 8 months. (like two times less deaths during a loooooong period).

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-19..latest&country=SWE~CHE&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=total&perCapita=true&smoothing=0&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

And guess what they did a few months ago? They eased the restrictions! And guess what they're doing right now? They're toughening the restrictions!

Paulie97
01-03-21, 19:27
In the last 7 days there were on average 69,9 deaths in Portugal and 144,7 in Spain...7 times more? stricter measures in Spain? no, the same.Counting from the beginning Spain has about seven times the total deaths of Portugal, 50,887 to 7, 118. Shoobree though omitted the population disparity, Spain approaching five times greater which renders the comparison much less significant. What IS quite significant is the comparison between Sweden and their neighbor Norway, the former with 11 times the per capita Covid death rate. This is especially telling given the similar demographics and logistics of the two countries. But you are correct, for as to the recent information over the last two months, Portugal is actually doing worse than Spain when population is considered.

I'll add this for the sake of the overall discussion, and it's not directed at Tavares. Some make a fatal mistake when they assume that "lockdowns" and the like are consistently followed. Yet in many places the masks go on in the streets where the police are checking but come right off for the house parties. Same can be said for inside the bars and night clubs in places where they are open.

BigBuddy69
01-03-21, 20:53
Unlike you I can read between the lines.The problem is you can't read the lines.

Paulie97
01-03-21, 21:03
Don't forget Shoobee the stupid Swede.

When he's asked to state whether Trump won or lost.

He shrinks and melts into a corner, unable to process and answer the question. Like the question is his Kryptonite that's killing him.

Hahahahaha.It's a sure dilemma. If he says yes then he aligns himself with a bunch of moronic conspiracy theories that have been constantly laughed out of court. If he says no then he admits that Trump is a blustering liar.

BigBuddy69
01-03-21, 21:23
You know ShoeTroll suffered a heavy head trauma when he he hit the table after sucking dr Tegnell's cock for 6 months. It's easier for him if you show him a nice chart:

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-19..latest&country=ESP~PRT&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

So since mid November Spain is actually doing better than Portugal concerning confirmed deaths. And if we look at the cumulative confirmed deaths we have 1087 deaths in Spain and 691 in Portugal (per million people). To my knowledge 691 times 7 is not equal to 1087. Mid-April it was the case yes, Spain had 7 times more deaths than Portugal but it was 8 months ago.

The white supremacist website where he finds his arguments needs a good update!

ShooBree
01-03-21, 21:33
And in case you missed it it has been the opposite during something like 8 months. (like two times less deaths during a loooooong period).

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-19..latest&country=SWE~CHE&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=total&perCapita=true&smoothing=0&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

And guess what they did a few months ago? They eased the restrictions! And guess what they're doing right now? They're toughening the restrictions!So what? There are still more deaths per capita in Switzerland than in Sweden. It only goes to show that even if you are one of the few countries that had any success with the lockdowns all can be undone in a wink of an eye. I laugh when I see the panic in Thailand, Norway and Denmark.

You have displayed time after time that you don't see the full picture. It is like you are autistic, you are obsessing over the numbers of deaths when there are other factors that matters as well.

ShooBree
01-03-21, 21:38
Don't forget Shoobee the stupid Swede.

When he's asked to state whether Trump won or lost.

He shrinks and melts into a corner, unable to process and answer the question. Like the question is his Kryptonite that's killing him.

Hahahahaha.Oh how sad I get when the crack***** fucker calls me stupid.

Why do you fuck crack*****s? Is it because all the regular working girls won't touch you or are you simply unable to afford a decent, drugfree hooker?

You obviously lack class, intelligence and good taste.

Golfinho
01-03-21, 22:42
What IS quite significant is the comparison between Sweden and their neighbor Norway, the former with 11 times the per capita Covid death rate. This is especially telling given the similar demographics and logistics of the two countries.Norway and Sweden similar demographics and 'logistics'? You obviously have never been to these countries. Oslo is a village compared to Stockholm, the biggest, only really city in Scandinavia. The international arrivals and transits into Sweden, immigrant population, and access by Chinese in the critical pre-pandemic weeks all on totally different scale from Norway where many of their population centers are remote if not isolated from ready international access for virus spread.

Run Mann
01-04-21, 00:26
Trump Pressured Georgia Secretary of State to 'Find' Votes. 'There is nothing wrong with saying, you know, that you recalculated,' the president told Brad Raffensperger. Listen to the audio in the second link.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-urged-georgia-secretary-of-state-to-overturn-election-results-11609707084

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Beijing4987
01-04-21, 01:13
Methinks the members protest too much. Anybody see the side by side photos of Wuhan, China and Times Square, NYC on 1/1/2021 ?

Sweden, Portugal, Brazil, Norway, Lost Angeles. Not many mentions anymore of Bengazi, where the CIA station boss was offed.

"Lock her up" ? Nope. Teflon President? Spike Lee made the latest movie about the American. War, in S. E. Asia. Covid 19 is still a moving target. Quit The quibbling or quarrel behind the scenes on PM.

Paulie97
01-04-21, 01:16
Trump Pressured Georgia Secretary of State to 'Find' Votes. 'There is nothing wrong with saying, you know, that you recalculated,' the president told Brad Raffensperger. Listen to the audio in the second link.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-urged-georgia-secretary-of-state-to-overturn-election-results-11609707084

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia-vote/2021/01/03/d45acb92-4dc4-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.htmlHis strong arm tactics against the Georgia officials of his own party are the very election fraud that he's complaining about. The votes have been counted there three times and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation did an audit of the signature matching systems. Only 20 more days and the clown is out of power.

ShooBree
01-04-21, 02:59
You know ShoeTroll suffered a heavy head trauma when he he hit the table after sucking dr Tegnell's cock for 6 months. It's easier for him if you show him a nice chart:

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-19..latest&country=ESP~PRT&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

So since mid November Spain is actually doing better than Portugal concerning confirmed deaths. And if we look at the cumulative confirmed deaths we have 1087 deaths in Spain and 691 in Portugal (per million people). To my knowledge 691 times 7 is not equal to 1087. Mid-April it was the case yes, Spain had 7 times more deaths than Portugal but it was 8 months ago.

The white supremacist website where he finds his arguments needs a good update!As usual you get everything confused, you should focus on improving your lacking reading comprehension skills instead of fantasizing about me. It's creepy. But maybe that's a result of your father / grandpa molesting you.

Spain has a total of 50'837 deaths and Portugal 7'118 deaths. That's 7.14 times more deaths. Congratulations, in next post I might teach you the difference between a million and a billion. You're welcome.

But go ahead with your irrelevant BS, are you trying to make me sleepy? Get a life weirdo.

It's extremely funny to be a called a White supremacist, there's no truth to it whatsoever, but it only reveals how you know absolutely nothing about me. Don't you get tired of being wrong all the time? I'm even starting to get tired of asking you that.

Funny how worldometers.info became a "white supremacist website".

EihTooms
01-04-21, 04:22
Career Crybaby Loser Trump has already lost Georgia to Biden 3 times. Now he is demanding a 4th loss to Biden. lol.

He knows he REALLY needs the Dems to control the Senate so there is at least a chance he can make back some of the hundreds of million$ he owes those Putin thugs in another Dem economic recovery/expansion after this latest in a century-long uninterrupted series of Great Republican Crashes/Depressions/Recessions.

Trump pressures Georgia top election official to 'find' votes and overturn Biden victory in phone call.
"Well Mr. President, the challenge that you have is the data that you have is wrong," Brad Raffensperger told Trump, according to the recording.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/03/trump-pressures-georgia-top-election-official-to-find-votes-and-overturn-biden-victory-.html?__source=androidappshare

At this point Trump should just hold a Covid Super Spreader rally in Georgia and implore his lemming cult followers to "Please, for the love of God and upside-down bibles, VOTE for the Dems in this runoff election! We all need the money! And no one needs it more than me, your Lord and Savior!"

That would at least be more direct and manly than this pathetic leaked audio way for him to try to shift votes to the Dems.

Run Mann
01-04-21, 04:57
His strong arm tactics against the Georgia officials of his own party are the very election fraud that he's complaining about. True but give those electors credit for not falling for the con. Coupled with Dick Cheney and Donald Rumpsfled along with all the former living Defense secetaries signing a letter saying the election is over, you'd hope Trump would stop losing but nope.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-defense-secretaries-release-letter-003636520.html

Paulie97
01-04-21, 05:22
Norway and Sweden similar demographics and 'logistics'? You obviously have never been to these countries. Oslo is a village compared to Stockholm, the biggest, only really city in Scandinavia. The international arrivals and transits into Sweden, immigrant population, and access by Chinese in the critical pre-pandemic weeks all on totally different scale from Norway where many of their population centers are remote if not isolated from ready international access for virus spread.The population of Stockholm is only about 1/3rd larger than urban centers that you call "villages," like Oslo. Copenhagen is about the same size as the latter. Yes, governments, cultures, and public transportation are all similar in Sweden and Norway, as well as Denmark. The percentage of Norwegian residents with an immigrant background is 16.8%. For Sweden it's 24.9% and not drastically higher.

https://www.urbantransportgroup.org/system/files/general-docs/UTG%20Scandinavian%20Transport%20Report_Final.pdf

So with that out of the way, what does that leave us? Airports. According to the graphs linked below, the "village" Copenhagen has the busiest airport in Scandinavia, followed by the "village" Oslo. The "only real city" Stockholm is third. In fact it even includes a post Covid stat, and Oslo airport was far busier than Stockholm in April of 2020. I realize this is Wikipedia, but it's sourced, with Euro language links at the bottom.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_the_Nordic_countries

But anyway, if you want to prove that Sweden's somewhat higher percentage (8.1%) of immigrants and / or an onslaught of infected Chinese at the Stockholm airport early on explains the extreme disparity, Sweden to Norway in per capita death rates, 11-1, then be my guest. The overwhelming consensus though sees differing pandemic responses, both as to governments and citizens as the primary causes. Here's one link, and more are of course legion. The case is practically common knowledge at this point. And going forward, keep in mind that a bit of decent research goes further than a guy in a monger forum making sweeping assertions while claiming he has been some place.

https://partner.sciencenorway.no/epidemic-health-healthcare/comparing-norway-and-sweden-norwegian-coronavirus-measures-reduced-hospitalizations-drastically/1701510

BigBuddy69
01-04-21, 06:05
As usual you get everything confused, you should focus on improving your lacking reading comprehension skills instead of fantasizing about me. It's creepy. But maybe that's a result of your father / grandpa molesting you.

Spain has a total of 50'837 deaths and Portugal 7'118 deaths. That's 7.14 times more deaths. Congratulations, in next post I might teach you the Don't you get it ShoeTroll it's a bigger country.

You know, 'per capita'? When it suits your delusional views you like to use 'per capita' datas!

So according to your new way of thinking there are 20 times more deaths in Sweden than in Norway. And nearly 300 times more than in Iceland! Is there a war in Sweden?

ScatManDoo
01-04-21, 06:14
It's creepy. But maybe that's a result of your father / grandpa molesting you.Projecting again?

Calm down.

Deep breaths.

We won't let him harm you or the pickled herring anymore.

Beijing4987
01-04-21, 06:37
True but give those electors credit for not falling for the con. Coupled with Dick Cheney and Donald Rumpsfled along with all the former living Defense secetaries signing a letter saying the election is over, you'd hope Trump would stop losing but nope.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-defense-secretaries-release-letter-003636520.htmlThe derangement syndrome will reverse to include the One who did not win and a basket of deplorables.

Don't call him a loser.

ScatManDoo
01-04-21, 07:00
You have displayed time after time that you don't see the full picture. It is like you are autistic, you are obsessing over the numbers of deaths when there are other factors that matters as well.What factor matters more than the # of deaths or death rate?

Paulie97
01-04-21, 07:26
Norway and Sweden similar demographics and 'logistics'? You obviously have never been to these countries. Oslo is a village compared to Stockholm, the biggest, only really city in Scandinavia. The international arrivals and transits into Sweden, immigrant population, and access by Chinese in the critical pre-pandemic weeks all on totally different scale from Norway where many of their population centers are remote if not isolated from ready international access for virus spread.All three cities, Oslo, Copenhagen, and Stockhlom had direct flights from China during the early stages of Covid, though the latter two had more carriers. Of course Sweden's per capita death rates are far higher. So yea you were all over the place. Literally nothing you said was true, and the conclusions you drew wholly unsubstantiated.

Paulie97
01-04-21, 08:18
True but give those electors credit for not falling for the con. Coupled with Dick Cheney and Donald Rumpsfled along with all the former living Defense secetaries signing a letter saying the election is over, you'd hope Trump would stop losing but nope.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-defense-secretaries-release-letter-003636520.htmlYes a lot of people deserve credit, even Bob Barr who did what was right in the end. Trump has thrown everything and the kitchen sink at the system and it has held up. It should concern us though that so much disruption has been possible, and that Trump was able to function as a quasi-dictator in spite of the Constitution. But I give the most credit to the people who responded to the pandemic and a reckoning on race with record voter turnout. We spoke loud and clear, and there's enough reasonable people in authority to prevent the usurpers from taking it from us.

P.S. Was funny, Trumpites saying Joe couldn't draw a crowd, totally disproven by the celebrations all over country in the streets after the election was called. This is our time. Enjoy it.

Tavares
01-04-21, 10:18
As usual you get everything confused, you should focus on improving your lacking reading comprehension skills instead of fantasizing about me. It's creepy. But maybe that's a result of your father / grandpa molesting you.

Spain has a total of 50'837 deaths and Portugal 7'118 deaths. That's 7.14 times more deaths. Congratulations, in next post I might teach you the difference between a million and a billion. You're welcome.

But go ahead with your irrelevant BS, are you trying to make me sleepy? Get a life weirdo.

It's extremely funny to be a called a White supremacist, there's no truth to it whatsoever, but it only reveals how you know absolutely nothing about me. Don't you get tired of being wrong all the time? I'm even starting to get tired of asking you that.

Funny how worldometers.info became a "white supremacist website".All participants in this discussion are anxious to hear from you: Did Trump win the election, yes or no? Very easy. Just share your opinion with all of us, mongers.

ShooBree
01-04-21, 18:06
All participants in this discussion are anxious to hear from you: Did Trump win the election, yes or no? Very easy. Just share your opinion with all of us, mongers.I really want to answer your question but I won't since you haven't contributed any information of value to this website.

ShooBree
01-04-21, 18:07
What factor matters more than the # of deaths or death rate?That's a question you should answer since you wrote about deaths and not deaths per capita in your post.

ShooBree
01-04-21, 18:10
Projecting again?

Calm down.

Deep breaths.

We won't let him harm you or the pickled herring anymore.I'm not projecting anything.

ShooBree
01-04-21, 19:26
Don't you get it ShoeTroll it's a bigger country.

You know, 'per capita'? When it suits your delusional views you like to use 'per capita' datas!

So according to your new way of thinking there are 20 times more deaths in Sweden than in Norway. And nearly 300 times more than in Iceland! Is there a war in Sweden?You should focus on trying to read and comprehend what I actually wrote instead of fantasizing.

BigBuddy69
01-04-21, 20:20
Yes please and we also would love to know how strong is herd immunity in Sweden right now, four months after you defeated the virus thanks to the good doctor Tegnell. And what's going on with your charming king?

At Paulie: me too I like this sweet Norwegian website. These Norwegian dudes seem to be really good friends with their neighbours!

https://sciencenorway.no/borders-covid19-nordics/the-border-between-norway-and-sweden-is-closed-for-the-first-time-since-1954-will-the-pandemic-ruin-their-special-friendship/1780394

Paulie97
01-05-21, 01:10
Canada, there is no point in arguing with the fanatics & cool aid drinkers.... Everyone knows the recent election was a fraud. A while back we had a few here like the guy above, arguing that Trump was robbed, but they all flew the coop as Trump and far right media got more and more ridiculous and the lawsuits tumbled one after another. Sad thing is that guys like this can't see who the real Koolaid drinker is, but you know such a cause is long lost when someone like Shoobree won't sign on.

Better luck next time conservatives. You deserve a seat at the table, but bring any more pathological liars / quasi-dictators / bigots and expect to see more very high voter turnout. And there are more of us than there are of you.

Paulie97
01-05-21, 03:08
Yes please and we also would love to know how strong is herd immunity in Sweden right now, four months after you defeated the virus thanks to the good doctor Tegnell. And what's going on with your charming king?

At Paulie: me too I like this sweet Norwegian website. These Norwegian dudes seem to be really good friends with their neighbours!

https://sciencenorway.no/borders-covid19-nordics/the-border-between-norway-and-sweden-is-closed-for-the-first-time-since-1954-will-the-pandemic-ruin-their-special-friendship/1780394These Wingnuts have such a hard time letting go of lost causes, whether it's Trump, Covid denialism, or their great hope, Sweden.

Another point about the demographics of Scandinavia is that population is heavily concentrated in urban areas, 84% and above when we are talking about the four largest countries. And actually the greatest population density, and by far, is found in Denmark, not Sweden. So yea, the excuse mongering, scapegoating immigrants, complaining about Chinese when they were flying into Norway and Denmark as well doesn't hold water. Bad policy in Sweden is responsible for many thousands of preventable deaths.

ShooBree
01-05-21, 04:05
Yes please and we also would love to know how strong is herd immunity in Sweden right now, four months after you defeated the virus thanks to the good doctor Tegnell. And what's going on with your charming king?

At Paulie: me too I like this sweet Norwegian website. These Norwegian dudes seem to be really good friends with their neighbours!

https://sciencenorway.no/borders-covid19-nordics/the-border-between-norway-and-sweden-is-closed-for-the-first-time-since-1954-will-the-pandemic-ruin-their-special-friendship/1780394Why do you ignore the everything going against your ridiculous propaganda?

https://www.thelocal.se/20201221/sweden-blocks-travel-from-denmark-over-virus-fears

Tegnell did a much better job than the lockdown populists.

I still wonder why you want to punish over 90% of the population for which the COVID-19 isn't worse than the regular flu. You have no right to limit the freedom of others because you're a scared little geezer.

For you to not be a total hypocrite you must also advocate lockdowns to limit the deaths caused by the regular flu. So what is it, are you a total crazy person or a just a hypocrite?

Paulie97
01-05-21, 04:46
The people who complain about Antifa and BLM while giving these guys a pass. Going after houses of worship, WOW, all in the spirit of Dylann Roof.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/proud-boys-leader-arrested-after-allegedly-destroying-d-c-church-n1252789

And while ignoring the fact that white supremacists are our "most persistent and lethal" domestic terror threat, this according to a recent report from DHS that was released in spite of Trump's protestations.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-10-06/dhs-white-supremacists-the-most-persistent-and-lethal-threat-within-the-us

BigBuddy69
01-05-21, 07:41
You should focus on trying to read and comprehend what I actually wrote.. .Utter crap?

Tavares
01-05-21, 09:31
I really want to answer your question but I won't since you haven't contributed any information of value to this website.On the contrary, I corrected your information wrongly comparing Spain and Portugal and assessing Sweden's death rate pc in comparison with the rest of nordic countries.

OK if you don't want to admit that mentally retarded lost. In Europe you are pretty isolated, you know, in supporting that deranged guy.

BigBuddy69
01-05-21, 10:35
Hey,

I also corrected him when he was wrongly saying that Sweden was doing better than Ireland and when he said that France was taking too much money from Europe and I never got credit!

I also forgot his funny theory about the Chinese origin of the Spanish flu (only vaguely supported by one historian).

ShooBree
01-05-21, 10:57
On the contrary, I corrected your information wrongly comparing Spain and Portugal and assessing Sweden's death rate pc in comparison with the rest of nordic countries.

OK if you don't want to admit that mentally retarded lost. In Europe you are pretty isolated, you know, in supporting that deranged guy.You're totally wrong. My stats were 100 percent correct. There are more Covid-19 related deaths in Spain than in Portugal. 1092 per million in Spain and 707 per million in Portugal. Over 1.5 times more deaths in Spain than Portugal per capita.

Your cherry-picking only shows how weak your arguments are.

You're the deranged guy and millions of Europeans do support Trump.

Can't you get anything right?

ShooBree
01-05-21, 11:08
On the contrary, I corrected your information wrongly comparing Spain and Portugal and assessing Sweden's death rate pc in comparison with the rest of nordic countries.

OK if you don't want to admit that mentally retarded lost. In Europe you are pretty isolated, you know, in supporting that deranged guy.You're totally wrong. My stats were 100 percent correct and what you wrote made no sense, you're just too stupid to understand that. There are more Covid-19 related deaths in Spain than in Portugal. 1092 per million in Spain and 707 per million in Portugal. Over 1.5 times more deaths in Spain than Portugal per capita.

Your cherry-picking only shows how weak your arguments are.

You're obviously the deranged guy and millions of Europeans do support Trump.

You still haven't understood that I was referring to information about P4P, that's what this website is for. You should start contributing to this site instead of writing your moronic opinions.

ShooBree
01-05-21, 15:05
Yes a lot of people deserve credit, even Bob Barr who did what was right in the end. Trump has thrown everything and the kitchen sink at the system and it has held up. It should concern us though that so much disruption has been possible, and that Trump was able to function as a quasi-dictator in spite of the Constitution. But I give the most credit to the people who responded to the pandemic and a reckoning on race with record voter turnout. We spoke loud and clear, and there's enough reasonable people in authority to prevent the usurpers from taking it from us.

P.S. Was funny, Trumpites saying Joe couldn't draw a crowd, totally disproven by the celebrations all over country in the streets after the election was called. This is our time. Enjoy it.China, Iran and the American flag burners are celebrating.

It's true as they say; Americans are stupid.

ShooBree
01-05-21, 17:53
Hey,

I also corrected him when he was wrongly saying that Sweden was doing better than Ireland and when he said that France was taking too much money from Europe and I never got credit!

I also forgot his funny theory about the Chinese origin of the Spanish flu (only vaguely supported by one historian).France do not contribute with as much as they should to the EU, Sweden contributes with much more per capita than France. The UK left the EU because they had to pay so much more than shitty countries like France. Sweden's net contribution per capita is almost twice (77% to be more precise) as big as the net contribution per capita of France.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48256318

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/which-countries-are-the-biggest-boost-or-drag-on-the-eu-budget/

You're wrong as usual. Several experts claims that the Spanish flu originated from China. You're fact-resistant.

ShooBree
01-05-21, 17:55
Utter crap?That's what you're.

Beijing4987
01-05-21, 18:14
Georgia on my mind. A trail of tears, from sea to shining sea. From Old Virginia to Astoria, Oregon.

BigBuddy69
01-05-21, 18:58
So, poorer countries and those with a lot of farms get more.Look, the European union wrote a document for trolls like you: https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/food-farming-fisheries/key_policies/documents/cap-separating-facts-from-fiction_en.pdf.

Let's get to the numbers:

https://ec.europa.eu/budget/graphs/revenue_expediture.html

France gives 22,78 billions for a total population of 67 M. Sweden gives 3,56 billions for a population of 10,2 M. Per capita that makes 340,3 for France and 349 for Sweden. You want me to thank you for the 9 euros? That's correlated to the GDP Shooshoo, you should understand that.

And France receives 15,09 billions, Sweden 1,71 billions.

Of course if you cherry pick like you love to do it, you stop here and say that 'Evil parasites blablabla we're going to do the Swexit" (suit yourself).

But if you read all the words in the article, you see something about agriculture.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/factsheets/en/sheet/104/the-common-agricultural-policy-in-figures

Look at the table V above, 9,55 billions of the amount that France receives is for the agriculture. For Sweden it's 0,89.

Still in the same table, 16,9% and 1,6% are the two percentages for France and Sweden (percentage of the total agricultural policy expense).

Now look at the table II. France has 16,3 % of the total agricultural area, Sweden 1,7 %. France produces 18,3 % of the total agricultural output of EU, Sweden 15,1 %.

Maybe know you get it, the 16,9 % and 1,6 %.

So if we deduce the help for agriculture from the total income coming from EU, we have 5,54 billions for France and 0,82 for Sweden. Per capita: 82,7 for France and 80,4 for Sweden.

Sorry for the 2,3. Maybe that's because France founded EU with a few other altruistic countries and we have something like European Parliament in Strasbourg.

As for China, I already explained you the contents of the article you quoted but you're really stubborn, with the money saved by cutting the internet access your parents could pay for some reading lessons.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/1/140123-spanish-flu-1918-china-origins-pandemic-science-health/


Historian Mark Humphries of Canada's Memorial University of Newfoundland says that newly unearthed records confirm that one of the side stories of the war may have been the source of the pandemic.
Humphries acknowledges that his hypothesis awaits confirmation by viral samples from flu victims
Humphries concedes that a final answer to the mystery of the Spanish flu's origins is still a ways off
"I'm not sure if this question can ever be fully answered," Taubenberger cautions, noting that even the origin of a smaller flu pandemic in 2009 still eludes certainty.Got it now? When one guy says that maybe, it came from China, that's not really 'several experts'.

Now read this one:

https://academic.oup.com/emph/article/2019/1/18/5298310

I know it's difficult, no big title for you.

I'll help you:


The simplest objection is to the idea that Chinese labourers were responsible for the spread of the pandemic virus. Crucially, Shanks showed that influenza cases among Chinese and Southeast Asian labourers and military recruits lagged, rather than led, cases among other groups in the same locales. Moreover, Chinese labourers were also shipped to Europe from the East via Suez or the Cape, although these routes were rapidly abandoned in March of 1917 in favour of transporting them across Canada . Finally, although the Chinese workers were reportedly transported across Canada in sealed trains, it seems unlikely even under this harsh scenario that the virus would not have initiated detectable spread in Canada if these individuals really were the original hosts of the pathogen.This one is rather good for you too, you just have to read the first lines: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/1918-pandemic-history.htm.

ScatManDoo
01-05-21, 19:15
Georgia on my mind. A trail of tears, from sea to shining sea. From Old Virginia to Astoria, Oregon.The results from today's Senate elections in Georgia will be interesting.

Polling was showing both contests were running tightly. Running neck and neck and neck and neck.

Going to get down to who's motivated more: Voters strongly wanting democratic majority rule for the US, or those fiercely against it.

John Clayton
01-05-21, 19:37
...

You're wrong as usual. Several experts claims that the Spanish flu originated from China. You're fact-resistant.I think the more recent research shows it likely is of North American origin, probably avian but maybe (surprisingly) equine.

Artisttyp
01-05-21, 19:43
I think the more recent research shows it likely is of North American origin, probably avian but maybe (surprisingly) equine.True. I think Kentucky.

Great Video on the topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MHT5xTkL2g&t=1490s

ScatManDoo
01-06-21, 00:26
Why do you ignore the everything going against your ridiculous propaganda?

https://www.thelocal.se/20201221/sweden-blocks-travel-from-denmark-over-virus-fears

Tegnell did a much better job than the lockdown populists.

I still wonder why you want to punish over 90% of the population for which the COVID-19 isn't worse than the regular flu.Because it kills a big portion of the remaing 10% that want to stay in the population.

Why does your King now apologize for Dr? Tegnall's stupid losing herd immunity roulette?


You have no right to limit the freedom of others because you're a scared little geezer.

For you to not be a total hypocrite you must also advocate lockdowns to limit the deaths caused by the regular flu. So what is it, are you a total crazy person or a just a hypocrite?You seem like a cray person making crazy comparisons. But I'm not afraid to answer your question, despite you being crazy-shit afraid to answer some questions.

We don't lockdown to prevent spread of the flu, which might turn out deadly for some.

For the same reason we don't outlaw automobiles, which are involved in deadly accidents.

Part of the way to identify crazy, is to see if a person can logically sort out and choose between realistic, real world rewards and consequences.

ScatManDoo
01-06-21, 02:55
With over half of the vote counted at 6 PM PST the dems both lead for both seats with each getting approx. 52% of the votes.

ShooBree
01-06-21, 04:41
Look, the European union wrote a document for trolls like you: https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/food-farming-fisheries/key_policies/documents/cap-separating-facts-from-fiction_en.pdf.

Let's get to the numbers:

https://ec.europa.eu/budget/graphs/revenue_expediture.html

France gives 22,78 billions for a total population of 67 M. Sweden gives 3,56 billions for a population of 10,2 M. Per capita that makes 340,3 for France and 349 for Sweden. You want me to thank you for the 9 euros? That's correlated to the GDP Shooshoo, you should understand that.

And France receives 15,09 billions, Sweden 1,71 billions.

Of course if you cherry pick like you love to do it, you stop here and say that 'Evil parasites blablabla we're going to do the Swexit" (suit yourself)..Wow, you can't even read. You're such a troll.

The net contribution / capita of Sweden is 77% higher than the one of France. You're are not doing your part! Which is partly why the UK left. France is a worthless country with moronic politicians as Macron dividing and destroying the Union. The hard facts are in front of you, you just have to accept the reality for what it is.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48256318

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/whi...the-eu-budget

Just look at Calais, migrants are desperate to leave France for England. France is such a mess.

I know that you're just a troll but no matter how many times you repeat your lies they won't become reality.

France is still not contributing with what they should to the EU and several experts are still writing that the Spanish flu probably originated from China. It's out there. I didn't make it up and I honestly couldn't care less where it came from, but the experts are still talking about how the Spanish flu may be the Chinese flu. Don't take it up with me, take it up with the experts. I'm sure they can't wait to laugh in your face.

Paulie97
01-06-21, 07:51
Sing it for us Ray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GufSJChOFG8&list=RDMMI_miwWpWStY&index=2

BigBuddy69
01-06-21, 09:59
I made a typo. Sweden produces 1,5 % of the total output of EU, not 15,1 %.

BigBuddy69
01-06-21, 16:55
The net contribution of Belgium and Luxembourg is negative.

You should exterminate them by playing Abba records until they die. Or force fed them with herrings?

Are you so illiterate that you can only read the title or look at the graphs when you read an article?

I gave you all the sources and the figures!

ShooBree
01-06-21, 18:39
Because it kills a big portion of the remaing 10% that want to stay in the population.

Why does your King now apologize for Dr? Tegnall's stupid losing herd immunity roulette?

You seem like a cray person making crazy comparisons. But I'm not afraid to answer your question, despite you being crazy-shit afraid to answer some questions.

We don't lockdown to prevent spread of the flu, which might turn out deadly for some.

For the same reason we don't outlaw automobiles, which are involved in deadly accidents.

Part of the way to identify crazy, is to see if a person can logically sort out and choose between realistic, real world rewards and consequences.Show me the "apology".

Hilarious, you're aware that the "king" is the laughingstock of Sweden? That fool can barely even read! He's generally considered to be the dumbest person in Sweden. But thank you for demonstrating how out of reach with reality you really are, just like the "king".

Sweden's strategy was never to reach herd immunity, that's simply another false statement from you. The strategy was to keep things as normal as possible to reduce the harm done to the rest of the society which got nothing to fear from the virus.

We both know that you are the one who's crazy. It becomes evident looking at your posts on here, in particularly the ones from Tijuana.

Let me see if I got it correct, you're okay with people dying from the regular flu but not the coronavirus. Will you confess now that you're a hypocrite?

BigBuddy69
01-06-21, 18:46
Congrats maybe you're not so much a desperate case after all.


The Spanish flu originated from China.
Everyone knows that the Spanish flu came from China.

The flu came from China according to most experts.

According to many experts the Spanish flu came from China,

Several experts claims that the Spanish flu originated from China.

several experts are still writing that the Spanish flu probably originated from China....
but the experts are still talking about how the Spanish flu may be the Chinese fluEveryone == Most == Many == Several == Several. . . Probably / The. . . May be.

You're the kind of guy to have really robust opinions no? In 8 days we've been from 'everyone knows' to 'several experts. Probably'.

It looks like slowly, a little spark of intelligence is making its way inside your herring-flavored brain.

I'm going to help you again:


A2
some, but not a lot:

Several people have complained about the scheme.
Several of my friends studied in Manchester.
Do you want to take one? - We've got several.

More examples
I left her several messages, but she hasn't returned my call.
There are several properties for sale in this area.
He was stabbed several times in the chest.
Adams is being courted by several football clubs.
The explosion wrecked several cars and damaged nearby buildings.https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/learner-english/several

You seem to have a very plastic brain like 2 yo toddlers, I'm going to insist until you finally confess that the spanish flu came from Sweden and you spread it to the world by selling pickled herrings, Abba records and Ikea Billy shelves (which are really good by the way just like your Sandvik steel, too bad you sold it to the bad guys 80 years ago).

ScatManDoo
01-06-21, 19:14
Wow, you can't even read. You're such a troll.

The net contribution / capita of Sweden is 77% higher than the one of France. You're are not doing your part! Which is partly why the UK left. France is a worthless country with moronic politicians as Macron dividing and destroying the Union. The hard facts are in front of you, you just have to accept the reality for what it is.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48256318This article that Shoobee the stupid has cited actually matches up better with what BigBuddy69 is telling us, not what the Swde writes.

The BBC article actually says this:

"Each country pays the same proportion of its national income to the EU budget, so richer countries pay more and poorer ones less. Some countries, such as the UK, pay less because they receive a rebate."


Are you so illiterate that you can only read the title or look at the graphs when you read an article?

I gave you all the sources and the figures!

ShooBree
01-06-21, 19:34
Hey bigtroll, facts still don't care about your feelings.

https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.statista.com/chart/amp/18794/net-contributors-to-eu-budget/

Run Mann
01-06-21, 20:05
Sing it for us Ray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GufSJChOFG8&list=RDMMI_miwWpWStY&index=2Bet you won't hear that song in the White House, at least not until Trump is evicted. Trump has made America great again though, he gave control back to the Democrats. Wanock is in and Ossoff looks is looking like the winner now.

This tune is not as sweet as Ray's Georgia on my mind but it gets you moving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCIDRLCROWE

ShooBree
01-06-21, 20:48
Congrats maybe you're not so much a desperate case after all..The Spanish flu came from China according to several experts. That's the truth. That you spend so much time on debating that tells me that you're a sad excuse for a human. You're so pathetic.

I won't stop until you admit that you're a pathetic little man without any real life.

BigBuddy69
01-06-21, 21:03
The Spanish flu came from China according to several experts. That's the truth. You're backtracking, you regressed to the 'several experts' step. Did you forget to take your medecine this morning or the electroshock session was too intense this afternoon?

Ask mommy to make you copy 100 times the definition of 'several' that I gave you. Or maybe you also want the definition of truth? Experts?

Then read your article again. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/1/140123-spanish-flu-1918-china-origins-pandemic-science-health/.

What do you think of this sentence?


Humphries concedes that a final answer to the mystery of the Spanish flu's origins is still a ways off.

BigBuddy69
01-06-21, 21:06
I won't stop until you admit that you're a pathetic little man without any real life.Unfortunately it doesn't work like this also.

https://www.positiveparenting.com/dealing-with-power-struggles/

Maybe I should try side-stepping with you.

John Clayton
01-06-21, 21:53
The Spanish flu came from China according to several experts. That's the truth. ..Cite even one expert, please. I believe both the epidemiology and the virology show the virus originating elsewhere. Probably North America.

ShooBree
01-06-21, 23:42
Best picture of 2021! I love that pic!

John Clayton
01-07-21, 04:55
Best picture of 2021! I love that pic!Thinking he should have covered his face. Perfect evidence that Trump supporters aren't very smart. It's also pretty good evidence that he has committed at least three federal crimes. Hoping he will be prosecuted and sent to prison.

ShooBree
01-07-21, 11:22
Thinking he should have covered his face. Perfect evidence that Trump supporters aren't very smart. It's also pretty good evidence that he has committed at least three federal crimes. Hoping he will be prosecuted and sent to prison.No worries, he will just say that he thought it was a BLM riot and all charges will be dropped.

Considering that the Democratic base lives in the inner-city ghettos I think it's easy to conclude that Democrats aren't very smart.

The Cane
01-07-21, 12:35
Best picture of 2021! I love that pic!You and Trump. Quite pleased to have a bunch of ignorant morons go out and do the dirty, hands-on criminal work while you sit back talking crazy shit and urging them on. Well this is my country, and I care about what happens to it. Donald Trump is going to be in a world of hurt. And it's just getting started. Four people were killed yesterday because of his seditious bullshit! There's going to be hell to pay! Including for the piss poor security! Remember, Charles Manson didn't kill anybody either. But still. He was culpable. With each passing day Trump proves himself to be the worst president ever! Trump is going to pay a price! Just wait and see.

ShooBree
01-07-21, 17:02
You and Trump. Quite pleased to have a bunch of ignorant morons go out and do the dirty, hands-on criminal work while you sit back talking crazy shit and urging them on. Well this is my country, and I care about what happens to it. Donald Trump is going to be in a world of hurt. And it's just getting started. Four people were killed yesterday because of his seditious bullshit! There's going to be hell to pay! Including for the piss poor security! Remember, Charles Manson didn't kill anybody either. But still. He was culpable. With each passing day Trump proves himself to be the worst president ever! Trump is going to pay a price! Just wait and see.Hahahaha, go cry some more!

Trump is the best president since the 80's.

The police must be held responsible for yesterday's murders of four patriots.

Trump should pardon all the accused patriots.

Revere
01-07-21, 17:22
Best picture of 2021! I love that pic!Here is the good news because of Twitter. They already have his name and he received a PPE Loan. So, he will be paying that back, will lose his business and the Biden administration said they will prosecute those protestors caught. Now, the last part which is really funny Trump signed into law any desecration of government property is now a 10-year sentence. So, much for you BLM theory he is going to jail and nothing he can do to stop it.

Revere
01-07-21, 17:33
Best picture of 2021! I love that pic!Your notnthatbsmart to think to think this will be blamed on BLM:

https://mobile.twitter.com/wontsurvive4mor/status/1347093860690898944?s=10

ShooBree
01-07-21, 18:04
You and Trump. Quite pleased to have a bunch of ignorant morons go out and do the dirty, hands-on criminal work while you sit back talking crazy shit and urging them on. Well this is my country, and I care about what happens to it. Donald Trump is going to be in a world of hurt. And it's just getting started. Four people were killed yesterday because of his seditious bullshit! There's going to be hell to pay! Including for the piss poor security! Remember, Charles Manson didn't kill anybody either. But still. He was culpable. With each passing day Trump proves himself to be the worst president ever! Trump is going to pay a price! Just wait and see.Let's be real, that was nothing compared to the BLM / antifa riots.

What happened yesterday was inspired and made possible by the BLM riots. This only highlights the hypocrisy of liberal media and liberals.

The Cane
01-07-21, 23:11
They got in on the fun too.

The Cane
01-07-21, 23:13
The evangelicals showed up early!

Chocha Monger
01-08-21, 00:05
You and Trump. Quite pleased to have a bunch of ignorant morons go out and do the dirty, hands-on criminal work while you sit back talking crazy shit and urging them on. Well this is my country, and I care about what happens to it. Donald Trump is going to be in a world of hurt. And it's just getting started. Four people were killed yesterday because of his seditious bullshit! There's going to be hell to pay! Including for the piss poor security! Remember, Charles Manson didn't kill anybody either. But still. He was culpable. With each passing day Trump proves himself to be the worst president ever! Trump is going to pay a price! Just wait and see.He came in his pants at the sight of the pathetic coup attempt! However, he will shit his pants when the radical Islamists storm the Riksdag and implement sharia law. Hahaha!

Paulie97
01-08-21, 00:42
Here is the good news because of Twitter. They already have his name and he received a PPE Loan. So, he will be paying that back, will lose his business and the Biden administration said they will prosecute those protestors caught. Now, the last part which is really funny Trump signed into law any desecration of government property is now a 10-year sentence. So, much for you BLM theory he is going to jail and nothing he can do to stop it.https://www.5newsonline.com/article/news/politics/national-politics/arkansas-man-caught-with-foot-on-nancy-pelosi-desk-mob-storms-capitol-building/527-1e0d9e1b-ebef-4296-859b-9de8c26be2d3

ShooBree
01-08-21, 00:46
Your notnthatbsmart to think to think this will be blamed on BLM:

https://mobile.twitter.com/wontsurvive4mor/status/1347093860690898944?s=10"Your notnthatbsmart".

LMFAO!

ShooBree
01-08-21, 00:48
Here is the good news because of Twitter. They already have his name and he received a PPE Loan. So, he will be paying that back, will lose his business and the Biden administration said they will prosecute those protestors caught. Now, the last part which is really funny Trump signed into law any desecration of government property is now a 10-year sentence. So, much for you BLM theory he is going to jail and nothing he can do to stop it.No problems, Trump can pardon him anyways.

ShooBree
01-08-21, 00:50
The evangelicals showed up early!Always good to know what the *****monger has to say about the evangelicals. LMFAO!

Kelso1
01-08-21, 02:07
You and Trump. Quite pleased to have a bunch of ignorant morons go out and do the dirty, hands-on criminal work while you sit back talking crazy shit and urging them on. Well this is my country, and I care about what happens to it. Donald Trump is going to be in a world of hurt. And it's just getting started. Four people were killed yesterday because of his seditious bullshit! There's going to be hell to pay! Including for the piss poor security! Remember, Charles Manson didn't kill anybody either. But still. He was culpable. With each passing day Trump proves himself to be the worst president ever! Trump is going to pay a price! Just wait and see.You say Trump is the worst President ever? I guess you were not around when LBJ was in charge.

Golfinho
01-08-21, 02:12
Let's be real, that was nothing compared to the BLM / antifa riots.
What happened yesterday was inspired and made possible by the BLM riots. This only highlights the hypocrisy of liberal media and liberals.Aren't the antifa and mattering black looters being prosecuted for their riots? And, aren't the people who funded them to do their dirty work while they sat back rubbing their hands together (or in the case of Jeffrey Toobin, rubbing his shlong) being called out? Except of course at culturewars.com where they nailed the take on it, https://culturewars.com/news/the-invisible-man-at-the-race-riots.

Beijing4987
01-08-21, 02:22
No problems, Trump can pardon him anyways.Lincoln Memorial. BLM demonstration, June 2,2020.

See any difference between this and January 6,2021 ?

Golfinho
01-08-21, 02:58
Lincoln Memorial. BLM demonstration, June 2,2020.
See any difference between this and January 6,2021 ?Difference: Trump's been playing checkers while the people orchestrating his opposition have been playing chess.

Now, watch what the Democratic leadership does with the opportunity gifted to them by the 'crisis' of 6 January.

Paulie97
01-08-21, 03:20
Aren't the antifa and mattering black looters being prosecuted for their riots? And, aren't the people who funded them to do their dirty work while they sat back rubbing their hands together (or in the case of Jeffrey Toobin, rubbing his shlong) being called out? Except of course at culturewars.com where they nailed the take on it, https://culturewars.com/news/the-invisible-man-at-the-race-riots.Okay, culturewars.com = E. Michael Jones, conspiracy theory peddling, openly Anti-Semitic bigot with quite a history that argues massacres of Jews throughout history have essentially amounted to their getting what they deserved. But hey, I wasn't expecting any useful sourcing from a guy who called Oslo and Copenhagen "villages," and did not know that Norway and Denmark are as heavily urbanized as Sweden.

https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/documents/assets/pdf/combating-hate/E-Michael-Jones.pdf

But yea we are talking apples and oranges. BLM has a legit cause, IE. Police brutality and systemic racism going back to the roots of the country. Those MAGA seditionists had none when they violently crashed the capital and congressional chamber to try and prevent the certification of a legitimately elected incoming government. They are traitors. As we all know they had their day in court dozens of time and were continually laughed out the doors.

The people have spoken. Conservatives are welcome to a seat at the table to discuss and vote on policy, but can take a hike with the kooky conspiracy theories and coup attempts. In fact for the latter they are going to jail.

ScatManDoo
01-08-21, 03:32
"Because yesterday the President of the United States incited an armed insurrection against America.

The gleeful desecration of the USA Capital, which is the temple of our American democracy, and a violence targeting Congress are horrors that will forever stain our nation's history.

Instigated by the President of the United States! That's why it's such a sting!

In calling for this seditious act, the President has committed a unspeakable assault on our nation and our people.

I join the Senate Democratic leader in calling on the Vice President to remove this President by immediately invoking the 25th Amendment.

If the Vice President and cabinet do not act, the Congress may be prepared to move forward with impeachment.

That is the overwhelming sentiment of my caucas.

And the American people by the way. " -- Spoken today, January 7, 2012 by Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi. A genuine, true patriot.

Trump Goons = False patriots.

ScatManDoo
01-08-21, 04:12
Here is the good news because of Twitter. They already have his name and he received a PPE Loan. So, he will be paying that back, will lose his business and the Biden administration said they will prosecute those protestors caught. Now, the last part which is really funny Trump signed into law any desecration of government property is now a 10-year sentence. So, much for you BLM theory he is going to jail and nothing he can do to stop it.
No problems, Trump can pardon him anyways.Two weeks from now this Richard Barnett clown pictured reclining in Nancy Pelosi's office chair:

Is going to find how things wind up when you stick your neck (or dick) out for our current backstabber-in-chief.

In February Nancy Pelosi will be in Washington, District of Columbia, in power.

Richard (Trump Goon) Barnett will be in Washington, District of Columbia, in dc jail.

Donald Trump will be far away from Washington, on the lam or fighting extradition.

Paulie97
01-08-21, 04:37
You say Trump is the worst President ever? I guess you were not around when LBJ was in charge.Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a huge, historic accomplishment to say the least, assuming you aren't a bigot. I don't know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

Vietnam policies left some to be desired, but even still, less than 50 K US combat dead for the whole war when Trump's constant lies and Covid-19 denialism cost untold numbers of lives, perhaps in the 100's of 1000's.

LBJ publicly told the KKK to have a seat or else, and was man enough to know when it was time to retire.

Then we have Trump's kooky "stop the steal" Alex Jonesesque conspiracy theories and constant lies, pardoned convicted murderers and the corrupt cronies that lied for him, then inspires acts of sedition that lead to the sacking of the Capital and Congressional chamber, first time since the British in 1814, WOW. Let it sink in, because he lives in infamy forever, along with the dumbfucks that followed him.

And sadly it took every last bit of that to get that half assed concession speech out him, and to get him to sit the fuck down for two more weeks. 25th Amendment was breathing down his neck.

ScatManDoo
01-08-21, 07:20
"As I swiped through more harrowing accounts of those who were inside the capital,. , scanned new pictures and video clips that emerged overnight.

Yesterday's trauma suddenly became fresh again. I shudder to think just how close to the edge our democracy teetered, in a sustained violent spasm of pure and simple revolt and terror.

The fact that it happened at a time our country is already at it's most vulnerable, suffering under this soul-crushing pandemic, is not only unamerican, it's cruel.

And to think that it was all fanned by a campaign of lies, and phony conspiracies from guardians of democracy, simply rips your heart out.

Democracy however prevailed. In the wee hours of the morning, the electoral votes confirmed. And in thirteen days we will have a new President, just as the framers intended.

That's nightly news for this Thursday, I'm Lester Holt."

Lester Holt closing out the real news tonight.

ShooBree
01-08-21, 08:01
Lincoln Memorial. BLM demonstration, June 2,2020.

See any difference between this and January 6,2021 ?It's ridiculous when the fanboy of the CCP wants to have an opinion.

How much money did China spend on their campaign for Biden?

At least one demonstrator was murdered, why don't you mention that? Because it doesn't fit your agenda?

The Cane
01-08-21, 14:31
Always good to know what the *****monger has to say about the evangelicals. LMFAO!The difference is that I'm not trying to be something that I'm not in order to be president, and then conning a bunch of doofuses into believing my lies. I don't fuck porn stars and prostitutes behind my wife's back and then try to pay hush money to cover it up. And that's just the beginning. Come to think of it, I don't have a wife! Free to fuck who I want when I want. And the way I see it, prostitution between consenting adults ought to be legal, and in fact is in the places I go! What's always funny is when the first thing a sanctimonious monger does is call another monger out for being a monger, when he himself is one, oftentimes married and cheating on his wife. Takes one to know one! LMBAO!

The Cane
01-08-21, 14:43
You say Trump is the worst President ever? I guess you were not around when LBJ was in charge.And to set you straight, yes I was around. And for your further information, it just so happens that I studied his presidency in detail when I was an undergraduate! So, I know of what I speak. Now, I don't like the way that LBJ handled the Vietnam War (something that he inherited), but there were many other things that he did on the domestic front that I absolutely do love about his presidency, such as successfully pushing forth groundbreaking civil rights legislation, which is something that the United States needed. LBJ was controversial in a lot of ways, but he is lauded by people in the know for many accomplishments, and rarely does he show up as the worst ever. That title now is assuredly reserved for Donald J. Trump. For real!

ShooBree
01-08-21, 15:36
He came in his pants at the sight of the pathetic coup attempt! However, he will shit his pants when the radical Islamists storm the Riksdag and implement sharia law. Hahaha!It wasn't a coup, it was merely a BLM / antifa-styled riot.

Why would the Islamists storm the Riksdag? The politicians are their friends, the politicians keep them out of prison and fly them back to Sweden when they get into trouble abroad.

The Islamists have infiltrated Swedish politics on every level. The same is happening in USA, just look at Ilhan Omar and how lobbyist for the Islamic regime in Iran were invited often to the White House to meet Obama.

Tavares
01-08-21, 17:42
It wasn't a coup, it was merely a BLM / antifa-styled riot.

Why would the Islamists storm the Riksdag? The politicians are their friends, the politicians keep them out of prison and fly them back to Sweden when they get into trouble abroad.

The Islamists have infiltrated Swedish politics on every level. The same is happening in USA, just look at Ilhan Omar and how lobbyist for the Islamic regime in Iran were invited often to the White House to meet Obama.By removing troops from northern Syria some time ago, your hero the mentally retarded Trump opened the door for the islamist terrorists to increase their military operations and sow havoc in the region once more. So please stop criticizing Ilhan Omar who is a moderate and by the way VERY sexy.

Revere
01-08-21, 17:53
A lot of knew Trump was a fraud. He said Obama was not from the USA and you racists jumped on it because you wanted to believe that lie. Now, a capitol police officer has died in the riot. This should have happened a long time ago, but his legacy will be a disaster! Go ahead and wear that MAGA hat around world now and see how you get treated. But how can we be surprised he went bankrupt 6 times it was only a matter time before this happened. Its officially over now and now they want blood I hope none of you were in that building because they coming for you.

ShooBree
01-08-21, 17:56
By removing troops from northern Syria some time ago, your hero the mentally retarded Trump opened the door for the islamist terrorists to increase their military operations and sow havoc in the region once more. So please stop criticizing Ilhan Omar who is a moderate and by the way VERY sexy.She's not a moderate!

I've known so many Muslim women and she's not a moderate! The fact that you suggest otherwise tells me that you know nothing about Muslims in the West. When I went to school with many female muslims no Muslim women wore a hijab. And Ilhan Omar hates the West, Israel and USA. But on second thought liberals and socialists seem to share that hatred.

You seem to be extremely ignorant.

The hijab is a symbol of radicalism.

John Clayton
01-08-21, 18:20
It wasn't a coup, it was merely a BLM / antifa-styled riot.

Why would the Islamists storm the Riksdag?...Maybe you're looking for "Reichstag"? The insurrection against the United States by Trump and his minions is not surprising, but it was still shocking. Social animals, including we social primates, have evolved to be lead. We choose leaders that bully, have big hair and an overbearing presence. Females want to mate with the leader. Trump supporters are no less likely to question what he does or says than a Chacma baboon in the Ethiopian highlands.

From the very beginning, Trump has praised "low information voters". Of course, without them he would be nothing. I remember far back when Republicans were a legitimate party. Unfortunately, they have devolved into an antiscientific, sado-masochistic group that revels in obedience to a Supreme Leader. The high correlation between Trump voters, Qanon believers, evangelical christians and even flat earthers is not surprising -- it is required. (It also explains why they are such perfect marks for his con.) If you can believe that there is a god who lives in the sky who controls your actions, that the Earth is flat (or that the Comet Ping Pong Pizza even had a basement), then you can believe anything.

ScatManDoo
01-08-21, 18:22
At least one demonstrator was murdered, why don't you mention that? Because it doesn't fit your agenda?They were not demonstrators. More accurate to describe them as rioters.

And to use the term "Murdered" is also disingenuous since murder is the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

Her killing was lawful, and we all got to see it on video from numerous angles. I will gladly go over it.

ShooBree, the stupid Swede, is referring to a fellow dumb that was a San Diego resident until she committed suicide by cop in the middle of Trump's fail coup attempt.

Her fellow rioters had smashed out rectangular glass panels from a locked door inside our nation's capital.

This locked door was at the end of a secured hallway in the capital, I believe the hallway led to over a dozen private offices of elected and appointed officials.

Capital police and other legitimate law enforcement officers apparently retreated into that secured hallway, protecting themselves and maybe also our capital from the armed rioters.

San Diego's former dumbest decided to storm the capital during the failed coup and was climbing through the door's smashed out glass.

When three bullets stopped her forward progress, and left her dead.

She won the competition for being Trump's biggest domestic sucker and collected her prize Wednesday.

Trump's Russian & German lenders are still competing for the international sucker's title.

ScatManDoo
01-08-21, 18:34
It wasn't a coupYou are finally correct about something.

A coup is a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.

A genuine coup requires successful seizure.

It was no coup. Trump led an unsuccessful coup, more correctly called a "failed coup".

A failed coup led by a failure of a person.

ShooBree
01-08-21, 20:14
Maybe you're looking for "Reichstag"? The insurrection against the United States by Trump and his minions is not surprising, but it was still shocking. Social animals, including we social primates, have evolved to be lead. We choose leaders that bully, have big hair and an overbearing presence. Females want to mate with the leader. Trump supporters are no less likely to question what he does or says than a Chacma baboon in the Ethiopian highlands.

From the very beginning, Trump has praised "low information voters". Of course, without them he would be nothing. I remember far back when Republicans were a legitimate party. Unfortunately, they have devolved into an antiscientific, sado-masochistic group that revels in obedience to a Supreme Leader. The high correlation between Trump voters, Qanon believers, evangelical christians and even flat earthers is not surprising -- it is required. (It also explains why they are such perfect marks for his con.) If you can believe that there is a god who lives in the sky who controls your actions, that the Earth is flat (or that the Comet Ping Pong Pizza even had a basement), then you can believe anything."Insurrection", what do you call this:

https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/this-day-in-history/james-hodgkinson-shooting-republicans-baseball-game

When will see the the liberal journalists and liberal politicians take responsibility for their rhetoric which caused this terrorist attack to happen? They should have been prosecuted for sure. More importantly how many Republicans / Trump supporters were radicalized by that terrorist attack and the rhetoric which caused the terrorist attack to happen?

Did you miss the antifa / BLM-riots caused by the lies and one sided propaganda from the liberals?

Not to mention the murders of two policemen caused by the divisive rhetoric from Biden and other liberals? Biden's words are killing innocent police officers! When will he be brought to justice?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

It's easy to see that Trump is just the scapegoat for a situation caused by the media, democrats, republicans and himself.

Biden has clearly shown that he is unwilling to even try to unite the country.

PedroMorales
01-08-21, 20:19
That the Clintons and Obamas are war criminals and serial liars. I detest Trump because of his Labour policies. I despise most Americans, in particular, those apologists like you who despise others.


Maybe you're looking for "Reichstag"? The insurrection against the United States by Trump and his minions is not surprising, but it was still shocking. Social animals, including we social primates, have evolved to be lead. We choose leaders that bully, have big hair and an overbearing presence. Females want to mate with the leader. Trump supporters are no less likely to question what he does or says than a Chacma baboon in the Ethiopian highlands.

From the very beginning, Trump has praised "low information voters". Of course, without them he would be nothing. I remember far back when Republicans were a legitimate party. Unfortunately, they have devolved into an antiscientific, sado-masochistic group that revels in obedience to a Supreme Leader. The high correlation between Trump voters, Qanon believers, evangelical christians and even flat earthers is not surprising -- it is required. (It also explains why they are such perfect marks for his con.) If you can believe that there is a god who lives in the sky who controls your actions, that the Earth is flat (or that the Comet Ping Pong Pizza even had a basement), then you can believe anything.

Golfinho
01-08-21, 20:39
Okay, culturewars.com = E. Michael Jones
BLM has a legit cause, IE. Police brutality and systemic racism going back to the roots of the country. Those MAGA seditionists had none when they violently crashed the capital and congressional chamber to try and prevent the certification of a legitimately elected incoming government. They are traitors...How fast you forget the leftist fascists that stormed the Supreme Court at the Kavanaugh nomination hearings.

Congratulations on your wikipedia insta-education. What a coincidence the doors to the US Congress left accessible when everyone knew what could potentially happen. Now, the Democrat party has another reference point to go along with Charlottesville. So, the fools were led into a trap, big surprise.

A lot of Americans feeling that something's gone wrong with their country and have become desperate enough to grasp at straws. Just be glad it was Donald Trump that came along and not someone who really knew how to play the game. Meanwhile the Democrat Party that wants to vaccinate, control, globalize and disarm you, censor your internet and issue vaccine passports and micro-chip currency are the ones calling the Trump supporters fascists? Nothing conspiratorial here: simply some people doing what some people like to do.

How can anyone who enjoys the freedom to engage in the pursuits of ISG be so clueless as to endorse people like Kamabala Harris and her ilk, when it's obvious how they would shut down websites like this one given half the chance and to put YOU on a no-fly list.

The Cane
01-08-21, 22:02
Never won the popular vote, lost it by an even wider margin the second time, had more people vote against him than any president before in history, instigated an insurrection against the world's greatest democracy, the only president to be impeached twice (likely if he doesn't resign), and a laughing stock around the world! The greatest one termer? Hahahahahahaha!

https://youtu.be/6lekVjaDHxE

ShooBree
01-08-21, 22:57
The difference is that I'm not trying to be something that I'm not in order to be president, and then conning a bunch of doofuses into believing my lies. I don't fuck porn stars and prostitutes behind my wife's back and then try to pay hush money to cover it up. And that's just the beginning. Come to think of it, I don't have a wife! Free to fuck who I want when I want. And the way I see it, prostitution between consenting adults ought to be legal, and in fact is in the places I go! What's always funny is when the first thing a sanctimonious monger does is call another monger out for being a monger, when he himself is one, oftentimes married and cheating on his wife. Takes one to know one! LMBAO!I've never seen a *****monger on such a high horse before. Passing judgement left and right.

Oh, the irony. Too bad you can't see it from your high horse.

No need for you to get your panties in a bunch. My post to you contained nothing but facts, yet your little brain started fantasizing about this and that. I'm a *****monger and I don't start to cry when someone calls me that. Unlike you I see the irony in a *****monger passing judgement on others considering the social stigma surrounding prostitution.

Tell me more about the time a prostitute wanted to tell the public about her rendezvous with you? Oh, it never happened. Walking in a other man's shoes etc.

How many Supreme Court justices did Trump appoint? I might be wrong, but I do believe it was an important issue for Evangelicals.

ShooBree
01-08-21, 23:01
You are finally correct about something.

A coup is a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.

A genuine coup requires successful seizure.

It was no coup. Trump led an unsuccessful coup, more correctly called a "failed coup".

A failed coup led by a failure of a person.It wasn't not a failed coup nor was it a terrorist attack.

I think you're the failed person. Don't get me started on what you're doing in Tijuana.

ShooBree
01-08-21, 23:37
"Because yesterday the President of the United States incited an armed insurrection against America.

The gleeful desecration of the USA Capital, which is the temple of our American democracy, and a violence targeting Congress are horrors that will forever stain our nation's history.

Instigated by the President of the United States! That's why it's such a sting!

In calling for this seditious act, the President has committed a unspeakable assault on our nation and our people.

I join the Senate Democratic leader in calling on the Vice President to remove this President by immediately invoking the 25th Amendment.

If the Vice President and cabinet do not act, the Congress may be prepared to move forward with impeachment.

That is the overwhelming sentiment of my caucas.

And the American people by the way. " -- Spoken today, January 7, 2012 by Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi. A genuine, true patriot.

Trump Goons = False patriots.Nancy Pelosi is a traitor. What she's doing is nothing short of an attempt of a military coup. She is trying to circumvent the democratic process to take away the powers given to Trump by the American people.

She should be incarcerated awaiting her trial for treason.

https://www.google.se/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/08/politics/house-speaker-joint-chiefs-milley/index.html

ScatManDoo
01-09-21, 00:01
Meanwhile the Democrat Party that wants to vaccinate, control, globalize and disarm you, censor your internet and issue vaccine passports and micro-chip currency are the ones calling the Trump supporters fascists?Nothing but Golfinho's right wing blather BS. Sure the Dems want to vaccinate and control us, but not any of this other wack-a-doodle bullshit stuff.


How can anyone who enjoys the freedom to engage in the pursuits of ISG be so clueless as to endorse people like Kamabala Harris and her ilk, when it's obvious how they would shut down websites like this one given half the chance and to put YOU on a no-fly list.I don't fear Kamala Harris trying to shut down hooker websites. What I fear is Michael Pence trying to shut down hooker websites.

The Cane
01-09-21, 00:28
Best picture of 2021! I love that pic!How about this? You like as well? I wonder if he will like a decade in jail?

https://www.kark.com/news/local-news/arkansas-native-and-capitol-rioter-richard-barnett-arrested-in-little-rock/amp/

Beijing4987
01-09-21, 01:56
How fast you forget the leftist fascists that stormed the Supreme Court at the Kavanaugh nomination hearings.
Screaming people interrupting a Senate hearing is not equivalent to breaking down doors and windows,beating up and killing policemen or destroying property or bringing bombs to a protest

Congratulations on your wikipedia insta-education. What a coincidence the doors to the US Congress left accessible when everyone knew what could potentially happen. Now, the Democrat party has another reference point to go along with Charlottesville. So, the fools were led into a trap, big surprise.

The doors and windows were broken down. Even entering the building without permission is a crime. Looking for a bathroom?

A lot of Americans feeling that something's gone wrong with their country and have become desperate enough to grasp at straws. Just be glad it was Donald Trump that came along and not someone who really knew how to play the game. Meanwhile the Democrat Party that wants to vaccinate, control, globalize and disarm you, censor your internet and issue vaccine passports and micro-chip currency are the ones calling the Trump supporters fascists? Nothing conspiratorial here: simply some people doing what some people like to do.

Feeling that something is wrong is not license to riot. Smallpox was eliminated by universal vaccine use. You have been controlled since birth. You have no control. name calling will change nothing. If you do not want to be perceived as a fool here, start producing some solid evidence of your grievances. Some people like to get in fights. Some Anti Fascists relish fights with Proud Boys and Vice versa. Many countries now require Covid tests and weeks of quarantine to enter. Call it a passport? Sure,why not. Taking away your multi shot military weapon you dont need for hunting or protection? Get a hand gun or shotgun. You are under control and Artificial Intelligence and facial recognition will control you further. DMT had four years to make everything great.The voters tossed him out. In two years you can hope the house or Senate flips again . Can you please post messages that show some intelligence and reflection, and provide strong evidence not feelings.

How can anyone who enjoys the freedom to engage in the pursuits of ISG be so clueless as to endorse people like Kamabala Harris and her ilk, when it's obvious how they would shut down websites like this one given half the chance and to put YOU on a no-fly list.Everyone here is allowed to express their opinions and "feelings".

Golfinho
01-09-21, 02:21
Everyone here is allowed to express their opinions and "feelings".Sorry to hear you feel like you've been controlled since birth. But, hey, you're entitled to it.

The Cane
01-09-21, 02:21
I've never seen a *****monger on such a high horse before. Passing judgement left and right.Oh yeah? Then try having a look in the mirror! Once again yet another sanctimonious response.

Golfinho
01-09-21, 02:34
Nothing but Golfinho's right wing blather BS. Sure the Dems want to vaccinate and control us, but not any of this other wack-a-doodle bullshit stuff.
I don't fear Kamala Harris trying to shut down hooker websites. What I fear is Michael Pence trying to shut down hooker websites.Fear of Mike Pence shutting down websites? Yeah, he's been just waiting to get out of office to start shutting them down.

The paradigm of 'right' and 'left' wing are outdated concepts. But, go ahead and keep clinging to it, if it makes you feel better.

We've seen the worst Trump can do, which is amateur compared to what the Democrats have in store.

ScatManDoo
01-09-21, 03:34
It wasn't not a failed coup nor was it a terrorist attack.The Trump failed coup was precisely both these things.

Plus an insurrection.

I think incitement of insurrection is the charge they plan to use for the second impeachment of Trump.

There is now evidence that some of the Trump Goons were equipped for and planning to take elected congress people hostage!

Nancy Pelosi is doing her job right now of securing GOP votes in favor of impeachment. Those old GOP men did not appreciate Trump sending his goons to disrupt their work in congress.

Paulie97
01-09-21, 03:50
What a coincidence the doors to the US Congress left accessible when everyone knew what could potentially happen.... Now, the Democrat party has another reference point to go along with Charlottesville. So, the fools were led into a trap, big surprise....Meanwhile the Democrat Party that wants to vaccinate, control, globalize and disarm you, censor your internet and issue vaccine passports and micro-chip currency are the ones calling the Trump supporters fascists?.It would be hilarious if it hadn't gotten serious.

I rest my case with this guy, kooky new world order conspiracy theories, and links to the website of the bigoted Anti-Semite conspiracy theorist E. Michael Jones. "Walked into a trap," but dressed up playing soldier, laying out pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, pistols with extra clips, inside the Congressional chamber with stacks of zip ties in hand, breaking widows, smashing down doors, setting up nooses, defying commands from the capital police, not to mention the planning in social media in advance. Yes the stupid Mo Brooks told them to go "kick ass and take names" and they did. All a staged "hoax" of "the deep state," right? Man up, stop playing the perpetual victim, and join reality. This very weak, whiny little boy many thought was strong is out of the WH in 12 days.

ScatManDoo
01-09-21, 04:00
It wasn't not a failed coupDid they teach you English in school?

John Clayton
01-09-21, 04:16
...I despise most Americans, in particular, those apologists like you who despise others.It's pity I feel, not despisal.

Paulie97
01-09-21, 04:17
How can anyone who enjoys the freedom to engage in the pursuits of ISG be so clueless as to endorse people like Kamabala Harris and her ilk, when it's obvious how they would shut down websites like this one given half the chance and to put YOU on a no-fly list.The sky isn't falling because it already fell. Due to legislation put through during the Trump admin this site is now hosted out of Europe. Around the same time the site Backpage was removed and replaced by a few Euro hosted entities. Minor detail I know, given all the other "facts" you've gotten wrong, but still deserved honorable mention.

Paulie97
01-09-21, 04:28
Trump is now permanently banned from Twitter. Here is one of his last tweets, since removed.

"These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & peace. Remember this day forever!

Yes, we will always remember this insurrection, fueled by his fantasies and his insistence on forever playing the victim.

Elvis 2008
01-09-21, 04:50
Four people were killed yesterday because of his seditious bullshit! There's going to be hell to pay! Including for the piss poor security! Remember, Charles Manson didn't kill anybody either. But still. He was culpable. With each passing day Trump proves himself to be the worst president ever! Trump is going to pay a price! Just wait and see.This is where you get the phrase Dimocrat from. It is stuff like this. For four years, they have been filled with notions that Trump is Hitler.

You cannot expect a Dimocrat to be critical of another Dimocrat like LBJ. No, the funniest criticism from Dimocrats is when they long for the days of a sane president like GW Bush.

Bush left office with the worst economy of my lifetime, government surplus to deficit, hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq and Afghanistan, and a horrific restrictions on freedoms via the Patriot Act which pretty much dismantled the 4th amendment.

I am not going to argue who is worse among Nixon, LBJ, and GW Bush but if anyone thinks Trump is in their class, that person is fucking brain dead.

Paulie97
01-09-21, 06:28
Nothing but Golfinho's right wing blather BS. Sure the Dems want to vaccinate and control us, but not any of this other wack-a-doodle bullshit stuff.It's all predictable, paranoid, the new world order is out to get me stuff. They are never responsible for anything. Trump is never responsible for anything while telling 1000 lies a day. Now his mob isn't responsible for anything, for even though they showed up with pistols, pipe bombs, zip ties, bats and nooses, and a US Congressman is outside with them telling them to go kick ass, it's all the fault of the Capital Police due to their inadequate response. Doesn't matter what it is, they can make themselves the victim and the deep state the perpetrator.

Check the Info Wars site sometime. They are the front line of the silliness, and just like Trump profit well selling tripe to stupid people. For example they had the headline "Woman executed in Capital by Capital Police. " Yea okay, while leaving out the fact that she's part of a mob trying to smash through a locked door guarded by law enforcement officers leading to the Congressional chamber, hardly a wise thing to do if you value your life. And she died for nothing because Trump lost, and by a lot.

But these folks actually, though they don't realize it, will be more comfortable now with the Dems back in power. That creates a much more fertile climate to play their "I'm a victim" role. Opportunities have been fewer the last four years, aside from crying about the media picking on Trump.

Paulie97
01-09-21, 07:58
Rush Limbaugh deactivates his Twitter account, apparently in protest after Trump ban.

Well, the first amendment isn't absolute. There's the potential for liable lawsuits. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater among other examples. But Twitter is a private company, thus first amendment doesn't apply. If a user incites violence, or habitually posts false claims, the online entity has a right to ban them. Same applies if someone comes in my home telling lies and inciting violence, they can be shown the door. A lot of people complain about "censorship" without any understanding of the law and how and where it applies. And of course Rush has every right to leave Twitter in protest.

https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2021/01/08/rush-limbaugh-deactivates-his-twitter-account-after-president-trump-banned/

Paulie97
01-09-21, 12:22
We choose leaders that bully, have big hair...You clearly aren't talking about Trump. That monstrosity on top of his head is a three part comb over to cover up scars from a botched hair transplant operation back in the 80's. And most American presidents have been men, not bullies like Trump. Every bully is terrified inside push come to shove.

ScatManDoo
01-09-21, 17:30
Bush left office with the worst economy of my lifetime, government surplus to deficit, hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq and Afghanistan, and a horrific restrictions on freedoms via the Patriot Act which pretty much dismantled the 4th amendment.Which makes watching Trump dismantle the party shitheads so delightful.

Todays featured humor was watching a half dozen Trump Goons chase Lindsey Graham all over the airport chanting "Traitor" and trying to trip him to the ground as he ran away.

Funnier than the Keystone Capital Kops and Fat Elvis.

ScatManDoo
01-09-21, 18:08
From Newsweek:

Twitter permanently suspends Trump as presidency crumbles.

Newsweek logoDonald Trump's Administration Falls Apart in Dying Days over USA Capitol Attack.

President Donald Trump's administration appears to be unravelling amid resignations and increasing demands for his removal or resignation with just 12 days left in his term.

In grade school I remember being taught by my classmates the appropriate phrase: Good riddance to bad rubbish.

The Cane
01-09-21, 18:16
This is where you get the phrase Dimocrat from. It is stuff like this. For four years, they have been filled with notions that Trump is Hitler.

You cannot expect a Dimocrat to be critical of another Dimocrat like LBJ. No, the funniest criticism from Dimocrats is when they long for the days of a sane president like GW Bush.

Bush left office with the worst economy of my lifetime, government surplus to deficit, hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq and Afghanistan, and a horrific restrictions on freedoms via the Patriot Act which pretty much dismantled the 4th amendment.

I am not going to argue who is worse among Nixon, LBJ, and GW Bush but if anyone thinks Trump is in their class, that person is fucking brain dead.Excuse me, but you never saw me say bring back George W. Bush. And I'm not going to argue with a Trumptard who won't criticize Chump for anything, and therefore can't see out of blind loyalty that Donald J. Trump is the worst American president ever! Attempting to excuse away a man who incited insurrection against his own country. That's not being brain-dead. That's not having a brain at all!

Paulie97
01-09-21, 18:23
The paradigm of 'right' and 'left' wing are outdated concepts. Trying to sound intellectual I see. If you want to look smart, I'd first stop linking to fringe websites of known Anti-Semites, then work from there. Left and right, though useful and still widely used across the media spectrum and in political discussions, come up short where you are concerned. Tin foil hat conspiracy theory peddler better fits the bill, and you can add gullible. Sadly that's a concept that is perpetual.

The Cane
01-09-21, 18:35
Of Donald J. Trump. How a Retrumplican like it now?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-protecting-american-monuments-memorials-statues-combating-recent-criminal-violence/

The Cane
01-09-21, 18:48
Be careful what you ask for. You might get it!

https://www.politico.com/video/2019/06/13/trump-elevator-president-068293

ShooBree
01-09-21, 18:56
You clearly aren't talking about Trump. That monstrosity on top of his head is a three part comb over to cover up scars from a botched hair transplant operation back in the 80's. And most American presidents have been men, not bullies like Trump. Every bully is terrified inside push come to shove.All Democrats are bullies, just look at this forum. You cry because Trump gave you a taste of your own medicine.

Obama was so extremely disastrous that the American people thought Trump looked good by comparison.

ShooBree
01-09-21, 18:59
Trump is now permanently banned from Twitter. Here is one of his last tweets, since removed.

"These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & peace. Remember this day forever!

Yes, we will always remember this insurrection, fueled by his fantasies and his insistence on forever playing the victim.Facebook and Twitter wants to suppress free speech. Watching those two sites shows the future of free speech in America if the Democrats are left in charge of the country.

Just awful.

ShooBree
01-09-21, 19:00
Oh yeah? Then try having a look in the mirror! Once again yet another sanctimonious response.Haha, pathetic comeback. You know that I'm right and that's why you couldn't reply.

ShooBree
01-09-21, 19:02
Did they teach you English in school?Obviously, can't you read?

I'm obviously way better educated than you.

ShooBree
01-09-21, 19:12
The Trump failed coup was precisely both these things.

Plus an insurrection.

I think incitement of insurrection is the charge they plan to use for the second impeachment of Trump.

There is now evidence that some of the Trump Goons were equipped for and planning to take elected congress people hostage!

Nancy Pelosi is doing her job right now of securing GOP votes in favor of impeachment. Those old GOP men did not appreciate Trump sending his goons to disrupt their work in congress.You are laughable.

If you want look less like a moron / hypocrite you might want to call the BLM / antifa riots for a "failed coup" and condemn the Democratic politicians for their rhetoric leading up to the insurrection.

You're such a loser.

Golfinho
01-10-21, 01:00
It would be hilarious if it hadn't gotten serious.I rest my case dressed up playing soldier, laying out pipe bombs, Molotov cocktails, pistols with extra clips, inside the Congressional chamber with stacks of zip ties in hand, breaking widows, smashing down doors, setting up nooses, defying commands from the capital police, not to mention the planning in social media in advance. Yes the stupid Mo Brooks told them to go "kick ass and take names" and they did. All a staged "hoax" of "the.You wouldn't know what case had if you had one one. People "defying police commands" really got yer panties in a twist, huhn? LOL.

The American system allows people to accumulate earnings and wealth. Works great until a point is reached where these resources are used to corrupt democracy at the expense of their fellow citizens. Elected officials are serving their donor class. Americans realize they're no longer being represented, so they take to the streets to get things changed. That's what it took to end the War in Vietnam. That's what it took to get the Civil Rights Act. And, that will be only way to stop Corporate Capitalism from destroying peoples' lives, and possibly from destroying the planet.

People with real grievances don't need a Donald Trump to tell them what to do. While entrenched power can go on deplatforming and censoring all they want to preserve their narrative, desperate people will do whatever they have to do. Characterizing this recent farce as "an attempted coup" is nothing but a means for entrenched power to solidify its grip. Ridiculing these MAGA people is no different than telling BLM people that racism doesn't exist.

The Cane
01-10-21, 01:27
Haha, pathetic comeback. You know that I'm right and that's why you couldn't reply.You're not right about anything ShooTroll. Short, succinct, and to the point. You say you've never seen it? I say again. Have a look in the mirror! That's the only response required. You obviously revel in petty back and forth one-upmanship. I have better things to do with my time than to waste it on the likes of you.

ShooBree
01-10-21, 02:33
You're not right about anything ShooTroll. Short, succinct, and to the point. You say you've never seen it? I say again. Have a look in the mirror! That's the only response required. You obviously revel in petty back and forth one-upmanship. I have better things to do with my time than to waste it on the likes of you.So many words to say nothing, but what else to expect from a troll like you.

I owned you and now you want to deflect. Go ahead coward.

ScatManDoo
01-10-21, 05:57
It wasn't not a failed coupDid you even learn English in school?


Obviously, can't you read?

I'm obviously way better educated than you.Fools often overestimate their intelligence.

Weren't that not right?

Hahahahaha.

Chocha Monger
01-10-21, 14:25
The sky isn't falling because it already fell. Due to legislation put through during the Trump admin this site is now hosted out of Europe. Around the same time the site Backpage was removed and replaced by a few Euro hosted entities. Minor detail I know, given all the other "facts" you've gotten wrong, but still deserved honorable mention.Many Trumpers belong to the QAnon movement, which attacks suspected mongers.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/03/us/what-is-qanon-trnd/index.html

Golfinho
01-10-21, 19:00
This will clearly be beyond the depth of some people, but here goes anyway:

https://www.rt.com/shows/on-contact/511893-west-america-existential-crisis/

ScatManDoo
01-10-21, 22:48
This will clearly be beyond the depth of some people, but here goes anyway:

https://www.rt.com/shows/on-contact/511893-west-america-existential-crisis/Why do these sucker sites have so many pop-ups you can never get to the content?

And no matter how hard it persists and pesters. I am not going to share my location with groups now on FBI watchlists.

ScatManDoo
01-10-21, 23:12
Capitol rioter Eric Munchel, age 30, is the Trump Goon that was pictured in the House or Senate chamber carrying zip-ties.

Munchel was revealed to be a Nashville bartender who stormed Congress with his mom. And was identified by his very specific paramilitary clothing.

Eric Munchel has been named as the man pictured with a bundle of flex-cuffs (around a dozen plastic handcuffs).

'We wanted to show that we're willing to rise up,' he told The Times of London.

Mom, Lisa Eisenhart, 57, said: 'We have to organize if we're going to fight back'.

The pair are said to have driven from Nashville, Tennessee for the protest.

Mental illness, stupidity and perception deficiencies can run in families.

And Donald Trump loves his stupid, even stupid Swedes.

The Cane
01-10-21, 23:18
Here's the new MAGA design guys. What do you think? LOLOLOL!

Paulie97
01-11-21, 02:04
You wouldn't know what case had if you had one one. People "defying police commands" really got yer panties in a twist, huhn? LOL.

The American system allows people to accumulate earnings and wealth. Works great until a point is reached where these resources are used to corrupt democracy at the expense of their fellow citizens. Elected officials are serving their donor class. Americans realize they're no longer being represented, so they take to the streets to get things changed. That's what it took to end the War in Vietnam. That's what it took to get the Civil Rights Act. And, that will be only way to stop Corporate Capitalism from destroying peoples' lives, and possibly from destroying the planet.

People with real grievances don't need a Donald Trump to tell them what to do. While entrenched power can go on deplatforming and censoring all they want to preserve their narrative, desperate people will do whatever they have to do. Characterizing this recent farce as "an attempted coup" is nothing but a means for entrenched power to solidify its grip. Ridiculing these MAGA people is no different than telling BLM people that racism doesn't exist.Actually the murder of a Capital police officer concerns me much more than the refusal to obey. His family's "panties are in a bunch" I'm sure, and I'm equally sure they aren't laughing. The Capital Police response was inadequate and heads rolled for it, those at the top resigned. You claim that the MAGA mob "walked into a trap," that what proved an inadequate level of security was set up that way deliberately, as the thugs were lured by some entities that wanted the siege to happen so they could attain political advantages in response to it. That's a serious charge, but instead of providing evidence for it, or any of your other conspiracy theories regarding Covid, vaccinations, the new world order, cryto currencies, etc. You go on a historical / philosophical rant.

Not surprisingly the rant was full of inaccuracies and false analogies. The successes of the Civil Rights Movement were largely attained through passive resistance, as were those of the 60's anti-war movement. As to the former, the television media was key in showing the dogs and firehoses used on protestors, and thus in generating moral outrage in the populace. That inspired federal intervention. There's little in the images of the recent events that illicit sympathy, except perhaps from people such as yourself. They also lacked a legitimate cause as no election was stolen, yet they truly believe it was because they are blindly following a demagogue. Yes there is a lot of bigotry among those folks. And Trump has played those sentiments to the hilt and for several years, going back to the Obama birther nonsense, and it all finally got out of hand, kid playing with firecrackers and blew off a couple of his fingers. If you are looking for parallels look at David Koresh or Jim Jones, or these KKK morons and lynch mobs back in the 20's.

But yea your communication style is similar to that of Trump. You lay out a lot of nonsense, conspiracies and the like, and when it comes time to back them up, you lay out more nonsense about vaguely related or wholly unrelated themes. It's called dodging, deflecting, spinning BS, and it's all evasive and dishonest. I only have so much time for that game, and for people that link to the websites of, and make excuses for bigots.

But anyway, old news I know, but we won. A new Democratic administration is coming in. There have been many successful ones in the past. Expect a more sane Covid response and a gradual return to some normalcy. And the market likes it, Dow steadily setting record numbers. My portfolio has never looked better. Hannity and Tucker have also switched gears playing reruns of old hits, complaining about the Clintons and the Obamas, so looks like Trump is getting to be more and more too out there for Fox.

Paulie97
01-11-21, 02:18
Many Trumpers belong to the QAnon movement, which attacks suspected mongers.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/03/us/what-is-qanon-trnd/index.htmlThey can squawk all they want, as long as they don't control the WH and other seats of power. And I'm forever amazed by the mongers who are scared they aren't going to be able to buy pussy. LOL Someone will always be selling it.

Paulie97
01-11-21, 02:26
Capitol rioter Eric Munchel, age 30, is the Trump Goon that was pictured in the House or Senate chamber carrying zip-ties.

Munchel was revealed to be a Nashville bartender who stormed Congress with his mom. And was identified by his very specific paramilitary clothing.

Eric Munchel has been named as the man pictured with a bundle of flex-cuffs (around a dozen plastic handcuffs).

'We wanted to show that we're willing to rise up,' he told The Times of London.

Mom, Lisa Eisenhart, 57, said: 'We have to organize if we're going to fight back'.

The pair are said to have driven from Nashville, Tennessee for the protest.

Mental illness, stupidity and perception deficiencies can run in families.

And Donald Trump loves his stupid, even stupid Swedes.It's worth noting that these people aren't starving. Your typical Trumpite has a job, as we have seen from the many in the mob that have been identified. And if not, they are getting enhanced unemployment checks at the moment, even gig workers. It's no mystery what drives them, bigotry, plus paranoia fueled by Trump's lies.

Paulie97
01-11-21, 04:50
This will clearly be beyond the depth of some people, but here goes anyway:

https://www.rt.com/shows/on-contact/511893-west-america-existential-crisis/This from someone who has yet to demonstrate any depth. It's easy to rehash conspiracy theories from fringe media sources. Providing evidence to support them is where it gets hard, and we've seen none. But if you feel this video from this Russian news source has some legitimate arguments that relate to the recent acts to stop the Congressional vote certification at the US Capital (coup attempt by definition), then present them here. Show us that you understand the material and demonstrate why you think it is valid. Methinks democracy is a lot of hard work with imperfect results. But that liars like Trump, and his Swamp creatures like Don Jr, Stephen Miller, Roger Stone etc. And the media sources that prop them up are largely responsible for the violent actions perpetuated in the name of lies.

But yea, get to work. Don't just link a video.

ShooBree
01-11-21, 07:58
Did you even learn English in school?

Fools often overestimate their intelligence.

Weren't that not right?

Hahahahaha.I speak several languages fluently, you're the loser.

ShooBree
01-11-21, 08:00
Capitol rioter Eric Munchel, age 30, is the Trump Goon that was pictured in the House or Senate chamber carrying zip-ties.

Munchel was revealed to be a Nashville bartender who stormed Congress with his mom. And was identified by his very specific paramilitary clothing.

Eric Munchel has been named as the man pictured with a bundle of flex-cuffs (around a dozen plastic handcuffs).

'We wanted to show that we're willing to rise up,' he told The Times of London.

Mom, Lisa Eisenhart, 57, said: 'We have to organize if we're going to fight back'.

The pair are said to have driven from Nashville, Tennessee for the protest.

Mental illness, stupidity and perception deficiencies can run in families.

And Donald Trump loves his stupid, even stupid Swedes.And you're undoubtedly one of the dumbest persons on this forum.

Paulie97
01-11-21, 08:57
PGA has jumped ship, and surely more are to come. No amount of populist tripe is going save Trump from his words and actions that fueled violence on the heart of US democracy.

https://www.golfchannel.com/news/pga-america-says-2022-pga-championship-wont-be-played-trump-course

The Cane
01-11-21, 18:59
PGA has jumped ship, and surely more are to come. No amount of populist tripe is going save Trump from his words and actions that fueled violence on the heart of US democracy.

https://www.golfchannel.com/news/pga-america-says-2022-pga-championship-wont-be-played-trump-courseYes, let the economic damage to his already faltering empire begin as well. Cut off from social media platforms. No more PGA events held at his courses. I hope all Trump Hotels fail. I hope even the Saudis won't want to deal with him anymore. Let the economic ruin of the low class, trashy Trumps begin!

The Cane
01-11-21, 21:23
Taking a knee in silent protest = a traitor, but storming and ransacking the seat of democracy and people getting killed = a patriot? That smacks of complete and total hypocritical bullshit!

ScatManDoo
01-11-21, 21:40
The count so far, as of noon Monday (today), law enforcement has identified and arrested 120 of the Wednesday rioting Trump failed Coup Goons.

TrumpShit demands loyalty from his followers / deplorables. How many of these goons that he "Invited and Incited" will get Presidential Pardons?

Suckers.

The Cane
01-12-21, 00:24
We love you sayeth the tyrant!

https://amp.dailycaller.com/2021/01/08/rioters-feces-urine-capitol

BigBuddy69
01-12-21, 06:15
Taking a knee in silent protest = a traitor, but storming and ransacking the seat of democracy and people getting killed = a patriot? That smacks of complete and total hypocritical bullshit!The first guy on your second picture is Jon Schaffer I think. He's the leader of a second tier heavy metal band called iced earth. That's funny but I don't think that the bigots from the republican party like Mike pence and all his buddies really endorse heavy metal. I'm rather sure they're more on the pmrc side and that they would be very happy if this evil music was banned.

But even on his board, you have a bunch of cronies supporting Mike and his friends. I'm not sure Mike's wife is really OK with the trips to Brazil and Germany. Talk about contradiction.

Paulie97
01-12-21, 07:44
Listen to these Republican voices. Prophets, every one of them.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/republicans-warned-against-trump-brianna-keilar-roll-the-tape-nr-vpx.cnn

Paulie97
01-12-21, 08:32
Here's an article from 2019 where Trump cries about big tech, playing the victim as usual. It's not surprising that he's non-committal about any anti-trust measures.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-claims-collusion-between-big-tech-democrats-backs-antitrust-fines-n1015726

Tucker Carlson was on Fox crying about the same thing today, alleging conspiracies and whatnot. But tech companies don't have to allow demagogues on their platforms who incite violence and repeatedly tell lies about stolen elections. And it's not about Repubs and Dems, but dangerous pricks and the rest of us. But he can go start his own media platform with the money he fleeced from the flock recently in his quest to stay in power.

The good news is that Fox is coming around, as to the true journalists. Tucker and Hannity though are still spinning propaganda, which is hardly surprising.

ShooBree
01-12-21, 11:21
What about white male business owners?

ScatManDoo
01-12-21, 17:27
What about white male business owners?They are still allowed to loot federal buildings for one more week.

SouthEaster
01-12-21, 18:20
Have been on the designated "ok to kick' list for some time now. Because we were "privileged" for so long, apparently, we are now the last to be taken into consideration, for anything. In this I am not a fan of the new, progressive, woke, inclusive blah blah blah mindset. It does not seem to include a large percentage of the population, the aforementioned white males. That said considering the makeup of the mob on the hill perhaps one can see why. Not our finest moment!

The Cane
01-12-21, 18:50
Warning! They aren't done yet! Have your spray ready!

Canada
01-12-21, 19:19
They are still allowed to loot federal buildings for one more week.And BLM and Antifa can loot Portland for another four years.

The Cane
01-12-21, 19:38
Trump empire in crisis. Goody, goody, goody!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-11/trump-sparks-a-crisis-for-his-empire-just-before-returning-to-it

Paulie97
01-12-21, 21:44
From the Fox News comments section:

"Told the wife he was going to a job interview and stormed the Capitol instead. The mother-in-law has to be so proud" LOL.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-man-capitol-riot-pelosi-lectern-viral-photo-lawyer

Beijing4987
01-12-21, 22:18
And BLM and Antifa can loot Portland for another four years.BLM was formed to counter racial injustice. They state their goals. The violence and property damage emanates from pure rage for the most part. Surely, there are some nihilists in the mix. Antifa shows up to counter those they consider fascists. Some of them revel in street fighting. Hitler and his brown shirts were countered at one point (Beer Hall Putch) November 8,1920.2000 Nazis marched on the Feldherrn Hall in the center of Munich. Hitler escaped, but was arrested two days later and charged with treason, found guilty and sentenced to 5 years in jail. There he dictated his book to Rudolf Hess. "Released after 9 months Hitler directed his focus on obtaining power through legal means, further developing nazi propaganda.

Paulie97
01-12-21, 22:40
And BLM and Antifa can loot Portland for another four years.Whataboutism, whatever. You lost. Be unlike the traitors at the Capital last week and lose with dignity. Trump went down to look at his fence today. He leaves DC in a week.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/whataboutism

ShooBree
01-12-21, 22:42
BLM was formed to counter racial injustice. They state their goals. The violence and property damage emanates from pure rage for the most part. Surely, there are some nihilists in the mix. Antifa shows up to counter those they consider fascists. Some of them revel in street fighting. Hitler and his brown shirts were countered at one point (Beer Hall Putch) November 8,1920.2000 Nazis marched on the Feldherrn Hall in the center of Munich. Hitler escaped, but was arrested two days later and charged with treason, found guilty and sentenced to 5 years in jail. There he dictated his book to Rudolf Hess. "Released after 9 months Hitler directed his focus on obtaining power through legal means, further developing nazi propaganda."Racial injustice", what a load of bullshit.

Does "affirmative action" ring any bells?

Not to mention how the interracial violent crime statistics looks.

BLM and antifa are against democracy and launched several attacks against the police and innocent business owners. They were rioting and looting. Setting businesses on fire. Occupied cities and murdered police officers. It continued all summer long and the politicians did not only do nothing, they cheered them on. Encouraged them. Confirmed their beliefs. Repeated their narrative.

But I'm glad to see that the Democrats finally condemned a riot. Hypocritical? Yes sir! But it proved that liberals can be against criminal behavior such as rioting.

Spidy
01-13-21, 02:31
Once he's run out of office and business finances in shambles, he'll at least still be able to find work hosting beauty pageants, where he can always go back to groping, fingering and sexually abusing beauty pageants.

Oh wait! Maybe for the sake of the beauty pageants, perhaps he should be impeached and locked up...LOL!

These Republicans warned Americans about Trump (and to some degree so did the beauty pageants)
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/republicans-warned-against-trump-brianna-keilar-roll-the-tape-nr-vpx.cnn


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46QsdKRxjbU

Vagabundo1
01-13-21, 02:39
Clearly, Brazil and Iran will declare war on America tomorrow.

For the win.

ShooBree
01-13-21, 02:55
Once he's run out of office and business finances in shambles, he'll at least still be able to find work hosting beauty pageants, where he can always go back to groping, fingering and sexually abusing beauty pageants.

Oh wait! Maybe for the sake of the beauty pageants, perhaps he should be impeached and locked up...LOL!

These Republicans warned Americans about Trump (and to some degree so did the beauty pageants)
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/republicans-warned-against-trump-brianna-keilar-roll-the-tape-nr-vpx.cnn


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46QsdKRxjbUSounds more like Biden.

Creepy Joe, yikes! How embarrassing for USA.

https://time.com/5831100/joe-biden-tara-reade-allegation/

https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.thecut.com/amp/2019/03/an-awkward-kiss-changed-how-i-saw-joe-biden.html

ShooBree
01-13-21, 03:03
Whataboutism, whatever. You lost. Be unlike the traitors at the Capital last week and lose with dignity. Trump went down to look at his fence today. He leaves DC in a week.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/whataboutismThat's not how it works, your party embraced those rioters & looters. If they were Republicans Biden would call them terrorists, so so I guess that's what we should call them.

Your party embraced terrorists, emboldened them, repeated their narrative and confirmed their perception of reality.

It's not about "whataboutism", which to be honest is just a childish way for you to say that you don't want nor dare to talk about that. You should grow up and stop talking as a childish teenager.

Vagabundo1
01-13-21, 12:02
Indian African stars dominating white and Chinese porn will make bank.

African dimming Indian (little red dot) doming Japanese domming Latina domming Irish red headed will flourish.

Gangbang creampie kink.

Fortunes can be made.

Golfinho
01-13-21, 13:08
The system has not been meeting the needs of the American people, its naked dysfunctionality is bare for all to see, and the ruling circles are experiencing a crisis of legitimacy. The response of the rulers to mass discontent is not to address the root causes but to step up suppression as the trajectory of neoliberalism lurches toward fascism. The aftermath of the events of January 6 has precipitated blowbacks by the ruling elites, such as proposed anti-domestic terrorism measures, in anticipation of popular resistance to the intensifying contradictions of the US imperial project.

The drama played out on January 6 reflected the distress generated by historical developments in late-stage capitalism: globalization and automation-induced job losses, accelerating wealth and income inequality, reduced access to educational opportunities and health care, food insecurity and hunger, and the threat of becoming homeless.

The system's unresolved contradictions are increasingly visible to its victims in both progressive (e. G. , Black Lives Matter movement) and reactionary forms (E. G, the Trump phenomenon). Neither of these tendencies are likely to fade away because the conditions that precipitated them will only be exacerbated. Nativist and white-supremist elements long an undercurrent in the American polity have been given oxygen by Trump. The Democrats dismiss the right-wing insurgency as a "basket of deplorables. " The left needs to both resist the growing right-wing presence and neutralize them, if not win them over to understand the true source of their discontent.

The Capitol building riot is being spun to distract from the failure of the neoliberal state to meet the needs of its citizens. Suddenly forgotten are urgently needed reforms like Medicare for All and a stimulus that benefits working people. Instead, the incoming administration of Joe Biden is pushing extensions of the authoritarian state under the guise of combatting domestic terrorism. But thanks to the Patriot Act, for which Biden takes credit as its prime writer, and other such repressive legislation already on the books, the state has already too much power over its citizens.

These extensions of the coercive power of the state have been and will be used to suppress popular movements and need to be resisted. Beware, the mania for censoring so-called hate speech is a tool for silencing any dissent to the ruling powers. The price of cutting off Trump's rants on Twitter and Facebook is the ascendance of monopoly corporations that are so powerful that they can even muzzle an elected president. Commonplace is the new normal of unchecked private corporations collecting data 24/7 on our most intimate activities.

Because the ruling class cannot solve the maturing contradictions of global capitalism, their response to their crisis of legitimacy is to increasingly rely on repression. We cannot rely on the Democrats, who are now backed by the so-called moderate Republicans and underwritten by finance capital, because they are the ones cheerleading the descent into accelerating authoritarianism, as they champion censorship and the oppressive security state measures.