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Trump economic collapse worsens:
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2021-01-13/nyc-will-pull-city-contracts-with-trump-organization-mayor-says
ScatManDoo
01-13-21, 20:27
The Capitol building riot is being spun to distract from the failure of the neoliberal state to meet the needs of its citizens. No. The Capital Building riot was a temper tantrum generated by the most privileged in the United States afraid their raping of the country might possibly get constrained.
Legitimate Black Lives Matter people are heroes. Truly Heroes! Really and truly heroes that transcend any so called zealot "patriots".
As for Antifa, it is not even a real organization. Antifa lies in the imagination of "Agent Orange" and the extreme right-wing news media and Proud Boy terrorists minds. Anti-Fascism is something most Americans are against. We live in a democracy not fascist dictatorship.
The "trump-humper" terrorist mob, apparently included large number of off-duty police members from Seattle to New York. So called, "law-abiding" citizens.
The Washington Post reports the FBI explicitly warned of violence and war from an internal report issued one day before the Jan 6th deadly mob attack/coup on the Capital, that online right-wing zealots, were stating acts of violence including one that said:
"Be ready to fight. Congress needs to hear glass breaking, doors being kicked in, and blood from their BLM and Pantifa slave soldiers being spilled. Get violent. Stop calling this a march, or rally, or a protest. Go there ready for war. We get our President or we die. NOTHING else will achieve this goal. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/capitol-riot-fbi-intelligence/2021/01/12/30d12748-546b-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html Wow!! So called "Patriots" Hmmm...sounds like terrorists.
I'm not sure Mike's wife is really OK with the trips to Brazil and Germany. Talk about contradiction.Mike calls his wife, 'Mother'. That's right, for real, she's Mother Pence. Now, do you still suppose he's going to do anything without her approval?
It's no mystery what drives them, bigotry, plus paranoia fueled by Trump's lies.You've solved the mystery! All it took was a little projection. Well done.
ScatManDoo
01-13-21, 21:56
With about half of republicans so far casting ballots in Congress, 4 so far have voted to Impeach the giant Peach.
With McConnel and Cheney now in favor of the big I, could get ugly with major parts of GOP leadership turning their backs of their chief shit.
Ten House Repubs voted for impeachment, and they are great, principled Americans.
Trump unleashed a mob of deluded bigots on the capital, all of whom believed the stolen election myths of the demagogue. And these were not desperate people, but people with jobs, or as we found in some cases, deadbeat stay at home dads living off their wives. These same people had full stomachs and travel money. Making excuses for them with populist tripe or whatnot is a joke, to say the least. These are just criminals, without the will to fact check and review multiple media sources to sort out the truth, that the people spoke and Trump lost.
Impeached for the second time. Bring on the process.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-impeachment-vote-capitol-siege-0a6f2a348a6e43f27d5e1dc486027860
Years from now this will be a jeopardy clue.
Question: This loser is the only U.S. president impeached twice during one term in office.
Answer: Who is.....?
Legitimate Black Lives Matter people are heroes. Truly Heroes! Really and truly heroes that transcend any so called zealot "patriots".
As for Antifa, it is not even a real organization. Antifa lies in the imagination of "Agent Orange" and the extreme right-wing news media and Proud Boy terrorists minds. Anti-Fascism is something most Americans are against. We live in a democracy not fascist dictatorship.
The "trump-humper" terrorist mob, apparently included large number of off-duty police members from Seattle to New York. So called, "law-abiding" citizens.
The Washington Post reports the FBI explicitly warned of violence and war from an internal report issued one day before the Jan 6th deadly mob attack/coup on the Capital, that online right-wing zealots, were stating acts of violence including one that said:
Wow!! So called "Patriots" Hmmm...sounds like terrorists.LMFAO! They are most certainly not "heroes". They are black supremacists. Just look at the deranged woman Biden thought was a good pick:
https://meaww.com/tucker-carlson-accuses-kristen-clarke-joe-biden-pick-as-doj-civil-rights-division-racism-harvard
Black supremacists will play a big part in Bidens administration.
Too bad white liberal Americans wants to destroy the country. USA is on the path to become the next South Africa or Zimbabwe, a no-go area for white people.
No. The Capital Building riot was a temper tantrum generated by the most privileged in the United States afraid their raping of the country might possibly get constrained.Poor little Paulie has to play by all the rules, and pay to have his fun, while those bad, bad people get to run through the halls of Congress, and take selfies of themselves sitting in Nancy Pelosi's chair. But not to worry: Biden Time is at hand! Soon everything will be straightened out.
No. The Capital Building riot was a temper tantrum generated by the most privileged in the United States afraid their raping of the country might possibly get constrained.You're calling these people privileged, "the most privileged" What color's the sky where you are on your perch in the trailer patch?
ScatManDoo
01-14-21, 00:24
Nancy Pelosi is a traitor.Wrong. She just impeached one of the GOP traitors.
The one found unfit for Twitter and Facebook. Hahahaha.
Answer: Who is.....?"Agent Orange?" LOL!
ScatManDoo
01-14-21, 07:15
You're calling these people privileged, "the most privileged" What color's the sky where you are on your perch in the trailer patch?I saw it on three real networks and Fox.
ScatManDoo
01-14-21, 13:13
From Rolling Stone Magazine:
Snowflake Republicans Throw Tantrum Over Having to Pass Through Metal Detectors in Capitol.
Republicans are learning the hard way that supporting a president who inspires a violent attempt to overthrow the government has consequences.
There are the obvious ones, like the fracturing of the foundation of representative democracy, the adrenaline shot to future right-wing extremist terror, and the growing specter of a new civil war. This isn't what Republican members of the House of Representatives are concerned about, though. Instead, they're whining that they're being asked to pass through metal detectors as they enter the Capitol.
In addition to Reps. Gohmert, Boebert, and Taylor, Reps. Steve Stivers (R-Ohio), Larry Bucshon (R-Ind.), and Debbie Lesko (R-Ariz.) reportedly complained about or refused to pass through the metal detectors on Tuesday. "These new provisions include searches and being wanded like criminals," Lesko tweeted. "We now live in Pelosi's communist America!
Passing through metal detectors has for years been a standard practice for Americans entering vulnerable building like airports, arenas, and courthouses (and also many doors of the USA Capitol! Republican lawmakers like Stivers have even proposed expanding their use in schools, in lieu of tightening gun laws. Yet, Stivers and some of his colleagues feel they're too precious to comply with this rudimentary safety measure a week after the Capitol was infiltrated by a violent mob, and as the military has been mobilized to protect against future attacks ahead of Joe Biden's inauguration next week.
The threats of such attacks are real. The FBI has warned of armed protests at all 50 state Capitol buildings, and the areas around federal buildings and monuments in Washington, the. See. , have been turned into veritable Green Zones. National Guard troops from across the country are currently on the way to Washington, and 15,000 are expected to be in the nation's capital in coming days. The New York Times reported on Tuesday that Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy has decided that those stationed around the Capitol will be armed.
If Republicans are so unhappy about all of this, maybe they shouldn't have lined up behind a president who for the past four years has been nudging his followers toward taking violent action against his detractors. Even easier, they could have condemned Trump's campaign to overthrow the results of the election, which led to the insurrection, which led to tragic inconvenience of having to more frequently pass through metal detectors as they enter a federal building like everyone else in America.
But they didn't condemn it. Gohmert, Boebert, and Lesko all voted in favor of the effort to contest the election results, and did so hours after this very effort effort inspired the infiltration and desecration of one of America's most hallowed federal buildings, leaving five dead, including one Capitol Police officer. This may have been a wakeup call to some Republican representatives. To others, the insurrection was just another piece of news to be leveraged into a bad-faith attack against "Pelosi's communist America."
Wrong. She just impeached one of the GOP traitors.
The one found unfit for Twitter and Facebook. Hahahaha.Trump being banned from Facebook and Twitter only demonstrate their lack of respect for free speech.
Being called "traitor" by a deranged libtard like you is a compliment.
I saw it on three real networks and Fox.Well there you go, the mainstream narrative where you've learned to internalize the commands of your oppressors.
I saw it on three real networks and Fox.You let the people who run the 'real networks' and who decide the editorial line and the narrative tell you what to think? You let Jeffrey Adam Zucker, Brian (Fleischer) Roberts, Shari Rothstein (since her father Murray croaked last summer), Robert Iger and the lot of them lecture you about who's privileged? You must be joking or just willfully ignorant because no one can be that clueless.
From Rolling Stone Magazine:
Snowflake Republicans Throw Tantrum Over Having to Pass Through Metal Detectors in Capitol....If Republicans are so unhappy about all of this, maybe they shouldn't have lined up behind a president who for the past four years has been nudging his followers toward taking violent action against his detractors. Even easier, they could have condemned Trump's campaign to overthrow the results of the election, which led to the insurrection, which led to tragic inconvenience of having to more frequently pass through metal detectors as they enter a federal building like everyone else in America.
But they didn't condemn it. Gohmert, Boebert, and Lesko all voted in favor of the effort to contest the election results, and did so hours after this very effort effort inspired the infiltration and desecration of one of America's most hallowed federal buildings, leaving five dead, including one Capitol Police officer. This may have been a wakeup call to some Republican representatives. To others, the insurrection was just another piece of news to be leveraged into a bad-faith attack against "Pelosi's communist America."That's all just basic common sense, that anyone that is at least semi-honest with themselves knows. This all goes back to Trump encouraging violence against hecklers at his rallies. He encouraged the police not to be "too nice" with them, plus promised to bail any of his followers out of jail if they face consequences for assaults. And sure enough, some old dumbfuck sucker punched a guy at a rally. And we see where it has all led, to domestic terrorism, from the same sort of trash that, statistically, is our greatest domestic terror threat.
However acknowledging these simple truths is way outside the Trump, and by extension, Trumpism playbook, which is all about playing the victim, never taking responsibility for anything, while forwarding baseless, "the sky is falling" conspiracy theories. But thankfully, some Repubs are beginning to jump ship.
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf
P.S. Some of these same Repubs insist on exercising some imagined right to spread disease during a pandemic by not wearing masks, just arrogant morons, is no other way to access it.
ScatManDoo
01-14-21, 22:03
I saw it on three real networks and Fox.
Well there you go, the mainstream narrative where you've learned to internalize the commands of your oppressors.They deliver a clearer picture than the tin foil hat apparatus you prefer.
ScatManDoo
01-14-21, 22:15
Trump being banned from Facebook and Twitter only demonstrate their lack of respect for free speech.
Being called "traitor" by a deranged libtard like you is a compliment.On January 7th Mark Zuckerberg said the company was banishing Trump for using the platform to foment a violent riot in the District of Columbia a day before.
Zuck demonstrated his commitment to public safety, where Impeachment Boy has none.
ScatManDoo
01-14-21, 23:14
Revealed: MAGA rioter who walked huge Confederate flag through US Capitol stormed building with his son who smashed to lead the mob into Congress.
Kevin Seefried and his son, Hunter Seefried, of Laurel, Delaware, turned themselves into the FBI in Wilmington, Delaware on Thursday.
Kevin Seefried has been identified by investigators as the man who carried the Confederate flag into the United States Capitol during the MAGA mob riot on January 6.
Seefried and his son, Hunter, are both charged with misdemeanor counts of trespassing and disorderly conduct. Hunter also faces an additional charge of destruction of property.
Kevin told investigators that he brought the Confederate flag from his home, where he normally flies it outside the residence.
Hunter is alleged to be cleaning up part of the glass from the window that was shattered just moments before he and scores of other rioters climbed through and into the Capitol building.
The father and son are alleged to have been part of a group that 'verbally confronted' several Capitol Police officers.
The two men were photographed alongside other prominent MAGA rioters, including the 'QAnon Shaman' Jacob Chansley and Aaron Mostofsky, the son of a Brooklyn Supreme Court judge.
Stockholm University in Sweden has made 2-year "Visiting Professor" contract offers to both father and son to adjust their rankings among educational institutions.
ScatManDoo
01-14-21, 23:54
Donald J Trump
A name that will be associated in American history with the likes of Benedict Arnold, Joe McCarthy, George Wallace, and Richard Nixon.You made this post around nine weeks ago.
Clear thinking.
Chocha Monger
01-15-21, 00:28
LMFAO! They are most certainly not "heroes". They are black supremacists. Just look at the deranged woman Biden thought was a good pick:
https://meaww.com/tucker-carlson-accuses-kristen-clarke-joe-biden-pick-as-doj-civil-rights-division-racism-harvard
Black supremacists will play a big part in Bidens administration.
Too bad white liberal Americans wants to destroy the country. USA is on the path to become the next South Africa or Zimbabwe, a no-go area for white people.I guess the "black supremacists" decided that hundreds of years of white supremacy was not working out for them. White liberal Americans will do just fine in the new America. White supremacists not so much. LOL! Yes. The Blacks are taking their rightful place alongside woke Whites in politics and the private sector. The Blacks even marrying and breeding with Whites to create a new race. The inbred domestic terrorists who defiled the Capitol know that their time is ending. Agent Orange was very helpful in exposing them so that the FBI and DHS can better root them out and deal with them. Hahaha!
Elvis 2008
01-15-21, 00:52
Ten House Repubs voted for impeachment, and they are great, principled Americans.
Trump unleashed a mob of deluded bigots on the capital, all of whom believed the stolen election myths of the demagogue. And these were not desperate people, but people with jobs, or as we found in some cases, deadbeat stay at home dads living off their wives.My God, Paulie, you are such an arrogant blowhard. The reason there were riots after George Floyd is because the cops killed someone and the black community thought the cops would get away with it. The reason is the idiots at the Supreme Court have given cops a pass through qualified immunity. If a doctor does something leading to a patient's death, he gets sued. Even when it was determined that the cops were at fault and killed someone, the families rarely got a settlement. I know of only two cases were people were wrongly and brutally savaged by police where damages were awarded. Two!
People riot when there is not a fair court system.
The one place where a judge allowed a voting machine to be examined, there was a 70% error rate. All the other judges did not allow the machines to be examined.
In Georgia, Trump charged election officials of kicking out neutral election observers and sneaking in ballot boxes. Those unobserved counters scanned in 24,000 votes, and Trump lost the state by 12,000.
So a lawsuit is filed by a Georgia citizen. The judge tosses the case and cites three reasons: the person suing did not have a standing (usual way judges blow off cases), the citizen should have sued before the election, and my personal favorite the legislature does not have to be a state's elected body. In this case, Georgia voting law was not determined by the legislature but between a Republican (the one who outed Trump) and a Democrat suing him. If there is not a more fucked up way to come up with election rules, I cannot believe it because to change the law all you have to do is pay off this one guy. It is a fucking joke.
So why were the election observers kicked out? No one was deposed so no one knows and no one cares. Where did the ballot boxes come from and who are these people? No one was deposed so no one knows and no one cares.
The real question though is what was the vote total on those 24,000 votes. So if all 24,000 votes were for Biden, would you be saying there was no fraud? Knowing you, you probably would but a rational person would say that is proof of fraud.
So what were the vote totals? Nobody fucking knows. If there were 12,000 for Biden and 12,000 for Trump, that would be proof there was no fraud.
And all the polls say Trump is going to lose and the Dems will pick up seats in the house, and the Republicans win seats and Trump loses? That stinks to high heaven.
These riots and the BLM riots had the EXACT same cause: an incompetent federal judiciary.
And now the way it stands, we know those fucking judges won't do anything if there is cheating, and that puts the integrity of the whole system at risk.
Now it is no longer who gets the most votes but who cheats the best.
Of course, you do not care about that Paulie as long as your side wins.
Now that cheating is allowed the Republicans will do it 10 X more viciously than Democrats and you all are going to lose your asses next time. That is what always happen, and I hate that. There would have been no riots had these fraud cases been heard. Their being dismissed was complete bullshit.
https://meaww.com/tucker-carlson-accuses-kristen-clarke-joe-biden-pick-as-doj-civil-rights-division-racism-harvard
Black supremacists will play a big part in Bidens administration.
My web browser blows up and warns me not to go to this site. Any other reliable sources?
RandMcNasty
01-15-21, 03:23
My God, Paulie, you are such an arrogant blowhard.Love that you call Paulie an arrogant blowhard and then procede to write a fucking fictional novel full of arrogance.
ScatManDoo
01-15-21, 05:37
People riot when there is not a fair court system.
The one place where a judge allowed a voting machine to be examined, there was a 70% error rate. All the other judges did not allow the machines to be examined.Are you referencing the Dominion Voting Systems machines in Antrim County, Michigan? If so, that was something Trump lied about on Twitter (gee, what a surprise!) and the fraud rumor was debunked. If you are not talking about Antrim County, then where?
What Judge?
Report spreads debunked claims about Dominion machines in Michigan county.
By Ali Swenson.
December 15,2020.
Claim: A report released this week in Michigan shows Dominion Voting Systems machines in Antrim County, Michigan, were "intentionally designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results."
AP'S assessment: False. This report rests on falsehoods about a human error in Antrim County and about Dominion machines, according to state and local officials. The initial vote reporting error in Antrim County was isolated and has been identified and explained by election officials. It was caused by a clerk's failure to update media drives for certain tabulators to reflect the correct ballot content. It was not a machine problem.
ScatManDoo
01-15-21, 06:00
My God, Paulie, you are such an arrogant blowhard.Elvis, you are still an ignorant sluut!
In Georgia, Trump charged election officials of kicking out neutral election observers and sneaking in ballot boxes. Those unobserved counters scanned in 24,000 votes, and Trump lost the state by 12,000.
So a lawsuit is filed by a Georgia citizen. The judge tosses the case and cites three reasons: the person suing did not have a standing (usual way judges blow off cases), the citizen should have sued before the election, and my personal favorite the legislature does not have to be a state's elected body. In this case, Georgia voting law was not determined by the legislature but between a Republican (the one who outed Trump) and a Democrat suing him. If there is not a more fucked up way to come up with election rules, I cannot believe it because to change the law all you have to do is pay off this one guy. It is a fucking joke..This has to be quite the headscratcher of a fraud case.
There are 24,000 ballots allegedly scanned at a specific period of time when election observers were removed, and then let back in to continue observing the vote count.
And this is reported:
So why were the election observers kicked out? No one was deposed so no one knows and no one cares. Where did the ballot boxes come from and who are these people? No one was deposed so no one knows and no one cares.
The real question though is what was the vote total on those 24,000 votes. So if all 24,000 votes were for Biden, would you be saying there was no fraud? Knowing you, you probably would but a rational person would say that is proof of fraud.
So what were the vote totals? Nobody fucking knows. If there were 12,000 for Biden and 12,000 for Trump, that would be proof there was no fraud.So it is alleged that 24,000 votes were counted when the election observers were not allowed to observe the counting of ballots.
Why didn't these election count observers actually observe the vote count before they left the room and again when they returned?
If not, these appear to be the worst election observers that ever existed. My guess, regular republicans.
Elvis 2008
01-15-21, 06:54
Love that you call Paulie an arrogant blowhard and then procede to write a fucking fictional novel full of arrogance.What part was fiction you arrogant blowhard?
...
And all the polls say Trump is going to lose and the Dems will pick up seats in the house, and the Republicans win seats and Trump loses? That stinks to high heaven.
...Most of us cherry pick individual poll questions and results we are either in love with or hate. For example, one poll says Biden is ahead 14 points, that one gets stuck in our head and we forget the ones that only had him ahead by 3 points. Therefore, it is always more informative to look at the consensus of polls and where they are trending, not just at one poll or one poll question here and there.
Further, a poll is only a snapshot in time for what would happen "if the election were held today." As late as mid/late-October there is still a lot campaigning, advertising, lying about themselves and the other guy to do and that can and often does change the direction of the polls and the results. There is also the potential "Comey Late October/Early November Surprise" possibility.
So the most reasonable assessment of polls vs actual election results will be a consensus of the polls just 2-3 days or closer before election day. For the most part, that will tell you how accurate to within a normal +/-Margin of Error they were earlier as well, "if the election were held today." In that respect, the consensus of polls for the 2020 election was as remarkably accurate within a normal +/-Margin of Error as they usually are, which is quite accurate.
Probably the two most famous consensus of polls sites are FiveThirtyEight and RealClearPolitics. Here were their final forecasts for the 2020 election:
FiveThirtyEight Final 2020 Election Forecast
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/
(scroll down for the final U.S. Senate and U.S. House forecast buttons)
Biden was "Favored" to win the White House. He did. The Democrats were "Favored" to win the Senate with an 80% chance of holding between 48 and 55 seats. They did. The Democrats were "Clearly Favored" to win/retain the House (They did) with an 80% chance of winding up with at least 225 seats. They wound up with 222 seats. I'm going to call that damn close to nailing it well within a normal +/-MoE. If the final forecast had been Republicans were "Clearly Favored" to flip 50 seats and win control of the House then I would agree this consensus was horribly wrong. But it wasn't.
The Democrats won a rather historic Dem win in the House just 2 years ago, flipping 41 seats in districts that were heavily gerrymandered to within an inch on either side of every Republican in the area and flipping control of the House. It is not particularly shocking to me that in a huge turnout election this time around 10 of those seats snapped back to the Republicans.
RealClearPolitics Final Electoral Map Forecast, No Toss Ups
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/2020_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html
The consensus of polls here pretty much nailed it, too. Just switch Florida for Georgia (both close enough to fall within a normal +/-MoE) and they would have gotten it 100% right.
In Georgia, Trump charged election officials of kicking out neutral election observers and sneaking in ballot boxes. Those unobserved counters scanned in 24,000 votes, and Trump lost the state by 12,000.
So a lawsuit is filed by a Georgia citizen. The judge tosses the case and cites three reasons: the person suing did not have a standing (usual way judges blow off cases), the citizen should have sued before the election, and my personal favorite the legislature does not have to be a state's elected body. In this case, Georgia voting law was not determined by the legislature but between a Republican (the one who outed Trump) and a Democrat suing him. If there is not a more fucked up way to come up with election rules, I cannot believe it because to change the law all you have to do is pay off this one guy. It is a fucking joke.
So why were the election observers kicked out? No one was deposed so no one knows and no one cares. Where did the ballot boxes come from and who are these people? No one was deposed so no one knows and no one cares.Trump lost regarding observers because there were observers still present. As Trump's lawyer responded to the judge there was a non zero number of observers.
The Georgia votes were recounted twice. The recounts added a few hundred net votes to Trump when it was found a memory card from a machine was not included. The paper ballots were compared to the machine totals and found no errors.
Georgia elections were run by Republicans. Do you really think they were working to "Steal" votes from their candidate?
None of Trumps lawsuits claimed fraud because there was no proof of any fraud and if the lawyers claimed fraud without evidence they would face sanctions by the courts.
Everyone knows Trump is a pathological liar. All he has done is lie about the fraud to scam donations from his simpleton followers.
The Justice department has found no evidence of fraud, the recent prosecutor appointed in Georgia has commented that he was surprised given all the claims that there are no cases that support prosecutions.
The reality is Trump completely mismanaged the coronavirus response, his rhetoric turns away anyone but his fanboys, his actual achievement has been almost non existent apart from his over exaggerated boasting.
It is hardly a surprise that he lost. The only surprise is the 75 m simpletons that voted for him. What future does the US have when there are so many stupid people running around!
The one place where a judge allowed a voting machine to be examined, there was a 70% error rate. All the other judges did not allow the machines to be examined. If you choose not to accept the outcome, and cling to some other alternative reasoning, then that your choice. We all take solace in what we believe to be true.
People riot when there is not a fair court system. I think a more accurate statement is, that people riot (or protest) when they feel an injustice has been levied against them by an imposing authority. Sometimes it take very little, such as an apology, to right a wrong.
In Georgia, Trump charged election officials of kicking out neutral election observers and sneaking in ballot boxes. Those unobserved counters scanned in 24,000 votes, and Trump lost the state by 12,000. Sure that was the claim made, but none of it was substantiated. Anyone can make unsubstantiated claims, "Agent Orange" makes several a day. Proof is in the pudding. Where is the evidence? The Burden of proof?
When Rudy Giuliani, argued this very same discrepancy in the courts with video evidence, he failed to show the entire video footage. Those so called "sneaked in ballot boxes", were securely locked ballot boxes, that were already there and tucked away under tables, just before the ballot counters were told to go home. Then these poor unfortunate, exhausted and tired ballot counters were ask to comeback and continue working. So they re-open the securely locked ballot boxes they had just locked away. Giuliani, ONLY SHOWED the portion of the video where, it looks like they come in and opened newly so called "sneaked in ballot boxes". When in fact they had been there all along. The judge saw right through Giuliani's and Republicans' charades.
Even Republican appointed election and committee overseers have ALL stated there has been NO ELECTION FRAUD. NO ELECTION FRAUD or VOTER FRAUD!
Qualified lawyers (on both sides Rep. / Dem.) have argued and deliberated, many of the same arguments you've mentioned (especially Georgia) and Republicans lost in every case and were overwhelmingly defeated in every state they contested. I am not a lawyer, but if you happen to be pretty good lawyer and know the ins and outs of electoral constitutional voting laws. Then perhaps your arguments have more weight than I give them credit. By all means enlighten us, some more.
I will say this much, IMHO of any system that is broken (ie. Democracy, Capitalism, the Justice System, the Police, Corporate Welfare, Health Care, Economic Inequity, Housing. Etc), the Election Counting / Certification of Americans voting at the Ballots, isn't one of them. Both Democrats and Republicans take this part of their Democratic Constitution very, very seriously. (Well that is up until "Agent Orange" decided on a "no loose. Mus win by any means presidential gambit".).
Now I'm not talking about gerrymandering, voter suppression or a myriad of other tricks and traps, that BOTH PARTIES employ, but the official count, once the ballot has been placed in the ballot box. I think this is very sacred to both sides in order to ensure fair and just democracy. Time and time again electoral officials have stated the error rate of electoral voting count is very minor and does not impact the outcome.
Of course, you do not care about that Paulie as long as your side wins.
Now that cheating is allowed the Republicans will do it 10 X more viciously than Democrats and you all are going to lose your asses next time. That is what always happen, and I hate that. There would have been no riots had these fraud cases been heard. Their being dismissed was complete bullshit. In 2016, I thought that dear Ol'Hillary and Democrats won, especially with a convincing 7+ million in the popular vote. I feel even more gutted today, knowing that they stopped counting in several states (ie. Florida) and did not take into account the uncounted mail-in votes. Those votes may have given the Democrats the win. Not to mention losing to Bush in the courts in 2000. But hey, I guess those are the breaks. Naturally is just all speculation...right? So you win some, you lose some.
So to say cheating is "NOW ALLOWED", well that maybe a bit disingenuous and a bit of an oxymoron. I submit that, the unfortunate pastime of political "cheating" in US politics as always been present. Just take a look at, gerrymandering, voter suppression, voter redistricting, the removal of hundreds of voting stations in black / brown districts, the striking of 10's of thousands of black / brown registered voters off voter registration lists, but to name a few. My personal favorite is, the removal of mail-boxes, mail sorting machines and limited postal workers, from all over the country, right before a general election. Most all of these, have been long standing methods of "cheating".
Personally, I think the Republicans are way better cheaters than the Democrats. Let me say, some of the doozies, that they came up with this time, was just jaw-dropping Machiavellian guile. Look, when COVID-19 sought to make voting even more difficult with longer lines and longer hours, especially in black / brown districts with 1 polling station in the nearest 10-15 miles. Republicans thought to themselves "yippie!
• But then COVID-19 helped more people realize (especially COVID-19 fearing Democrats), ". Hey no problem, we'll just vote by mail".
• But in true Machiavellian fashion and not be out done by COVID-19 and mail-in voters, Republicans hatched a scheme to remove as many US mail-boxes, mail sorting machines and limit postal worker schedules, as much as they possibly can, from all over the country.
• Man, did I laughed my socks off, "...Ahhhhh! Genius! Pure genius! I literally laughed out loud. I was laughing so hard, I was crying...Kkkkkk! And with "Agent Orange", declaring voting by mail to be fraudulent, it was an icing on the cake.
• Ahh yes! But like "Best laid plans of mice and men", it was not to be.
Both parties know how the game is played. I'm just not sure why the Republicans are still crying in their beers. But fear not, much like yourself, I too think Republicans with return, with even more insidious schemes, even more Machiavellian plans and I for one can wait to see how they top the scheme to remove as many mail-boxes & mail sorting machines as they possibly can, from all over the country. Genius! Pure genius!
Trump being banned from Facebook and Twitter only demonstrate their lack of respect for free speech.
Being called "traitor" by a deranged libtard like you is a compliment.Think of trump's moronic tweets (et al) as "wedding cakes for gay couples" and Twitter et al as "Christian bakeries with a moral objection". Get it now?
My web browser blows up and warns me not to go to this site. Any other reliable sources?Apparently she has repeatedly defended several anti-Semites over the last decades.
https://www.google.se/amp/s/forward.com/news/national/462089/bidens-deputy-ag-pick-defends-record-on-antisemitism-amid-criticism-of/%3Fgamp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-doj-pick-defense-ex-womens-march-leader.amp
https://latribunadelpaisvasco.com/art/14386/kristen-clarke-una-racista-que-defiende-la-superioridad-genetica-de-la-raza-negra-formara-parte-del-posible-gobierno-de-joe-biden
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/usa/512341-civil-rights-pick-racism/amp/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/01/12/tucker_carlson_biden_pick_to_head_doj_civil_rights_division_wrote_blacks_had_superior_physical_and_mental_abilities.html
https://mobile.twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1348817652299530240
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1994/10/28/blacks-seek-an-end-to-abuse/
I guess the "black supremacists" decided that hundreds of years of white supremacy was not working out for them. White liberal Americans will do just fine in the new America. White supremacists not so much. LOL! Yes. The Blacks are taking their rightful place alongside woke Whites in politics and the private sector. The Blacks even marrying and breeding with Whites to create a new race. The inbred domestic terrorists who defiled the Capitol know that their time is ending. Agent Orange was very helpful in exposing them so that the FBI and DHS can better root them out and deal with them. Hahaha!So you are confessing that the Democrats are not interested in having a meritocracy, they're are more interested in having a racist society where incompetent blacks will be chosen instead of competent whites.
You are apparently a rabid racist and you actually manages to justify what happened in the Capitol. It was an attempt to stop the racist apartheid regime that you support.
I'm so extremely happy that I don't live in Zimbabwe, USA or South Africa. Let's hope that Trump wins the election in 2024.
On January 7th Mark Zuckerberg said the company was banishing Trump for using the platform to foment a violent riot in the District of Columbia a day before.
Zuck demonstrated his commitment to public safety, where Impeachment Boy has none.Omfg, you don't actually believe that do you? Are you really that stupid?
Anyways, Zuckerberg lied. He's just another nerdy libtard with no respect for free speech.
I guess the "black supremacists" decided that hundreds of years of white supremacy was not working out for them. White liberal Americans will do just fine in the new America. White supremacists not so much. LOL! Yes. The Blacks are taking their rightful place alongside woke Whites in politics and the private sector. The Blacks even marrying and breeding with Whites to create a new race. The inbred domestic terrorists who defiled the Capitol know that their time is ending. Agent Orange was very helpful in exposing them so that the FBI and DHS can better root them out and deal with them. Hahaha!Disgusting to see that you support black supremacists.
Qualified lawyers (on both sides Rep. / Dem.) have argued and deliberated, many of the same arguments you've mentioned (especially Georgia) and Republicans lost in every case and were overwhelmingly defeated in every state they contested. That's the bottom line. They had their day in court dozens of times only to rack up loses. Trump set all this up in advance with the "it's rigged!" nonsense, crying before the first vote was ever cast. The bigot did the same thing on behalf Romney in 2012, and of course before the vote in 2016. He was going to pull the same scam if Hillary had won.
A mob just ransacked our capital. Five people are dead but it could have been a massacre. Tin foil hat twerps like Elvis are partly responsible with their spreading of lies. The same applies to propagandists like Sean Hannity and radio jock con men that likely know better, but choose to tell lies for profit. Rush Limbaugh though was having none of it. Good for him. The same can be said for Bob Barr.
Elvis 2008
01-15-21, 19:32
Trump lost regarding observers because there were observers still present. As Trump's lawyer responded to the judge there was a non zero number of observers.No, there were not. This is from the very liberal Huffington Post: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/video-georgia-election-false-fraud_n_5fcac976c5b619bc4c330575.
Confusion arose when election workers thought they were done for the night, but then were instructed to continue scanning ballots.
Pick claimed it showed a staff member telling partisan observers to leave the facility for the night about 10:30 pm After observers were "cleared out," she said, four election workers stayed behind, pulled suitcases of ballots out from underneath a table, and counted them for two hours with no witnesses present.
After a short period when observers weren't present, an independent state election board monitor arrived to oversee the scanning at 11:52 pm, Barron said. A state investigator arrived at 12:15 am Both individuals remained at the facility until the count concluded for the night, he said.
From the conservative POV: With four people working and over two hours to count "votes" without observers or press present, they could have added at least 24,000 fraudulent votes to the total.
Back to Huffington Post: Fulton County Elections Director Richard Barron refuted those claims on Friday, saying in a public meeting that no observers were ever told to leave the facility.
Then, the supervisor onsite got a call from Barron, who instructed the team to continue scanning the ballots that had already been prepared. They pulled the same boxes of ballots back out, and resumed scanning, Sterling said.
Who is this guy Richard Barron?
Williamson County Election Administrator Rick Barron, who survived a no-confidence vote earlier this year, submitted his resignation Wednesday. He has announced he has been hired to take over as election administrator for Fulton County, Ga. , next month.
Speaking via cell phone from Georgia, Barron said his last day in Williamson County will be June 7. His first day in Atlanta is to be June 19. Barron said the November 2012 Election Day controversies, which led to Williamson County Republicans seeking his ouster, played a role in his decision.
On the morning of Nov. 6, Barron summoned sheriff's deputies to have election judge John Gordon removed from the Stony Point High School polling place in Round Rock. Barron said Gordon was taking actions that overstepped his authority and was verbally abusive to a county employee at the precinct. Gordon denies the allegations.
Meanwhile, in far-northern Williamson County, an estimated 15 voters received incorrect ballots in a Jarrell school board race that was ultimately decided by three votes. Barron's critics contend the Jarrell snafu happened because Barron was distracted at Stony Point.
Then Barron invoked even more controversy, https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-news/backlash-follows-after-firing-of-fulton-poll-workers-who-spoke-out/IASV5RPWTFH2JPC2MT2VA6RPGM/.
Elected state officials at all levels have chastised the Fulton County elections department for not rehiring two poll workers who publicly criticized how the majority-Democrat county ran the presidential election.
The three Republican members of the Fulton County Board of Commissioners, which has budgeted more than $35 million to elections this year, released a joint statement Monday asking that the county's elections board "investigate the actions of Director Richard Barron and his staff that were involved in these decisions and to take action as appropriate."
Thorne, who was certified as a technician to help Dominion Voting Systems, tested and calibrated voting machines. Part of that job was printing realistic ballots. She claimed Dominion employees handled those ballots in a "haphazard and careless way."
"I am personally aware that some batches of test ballots were lost during the process and I was required to reprint entire polling districts test ballots a second time," she wrote in her affidavit.
"They were identical, and that's what drew my attention to it," she said during the Hannity program. She added: "We were amazed at the count. Every one that was in the entire batch was for Biden, overwhelmingly."
The votes were from Quality Living Service, which is non-profit that offers housing for those over age 50 in southern Fulton.
End of quote.
So here you go guys. The more I look, the worse it gets. You said there were neutral observers the whole time. There were not.
You have a guy Richard Barron who smells to high heaven of corruption, who was given a no confidence vote, and who made the clearly incorrect statement that observers were not asked to leave, and then fires / does not rehire people who were critical of him.
If Trump got Georgia, he would not even win the election but we are talking about why there were riots. Barron, the four vote counters, the Republican whistle blowers, and the Republican poll watchers all should have been deposed.
This is not proof of fraud. It is proof when there is possible fraud no one wants to do anything.
If there were public depositions of these people and a court case, there would not have been riots.
Think of trump's moronic tweets (et al) as "wedding cakes for gay couples" and Twitter et al as "Christian bakeries with a moral objection". Get it now?Exactly. The first amendment doesn't apply to private companies. Plus Twitter for the longest time published Trump's election fraud lies with the disclaimer denoting that claims of election fraud are disputed. They of course were not under any obligation to publish the nonsense to begin with, but did so out of respect for a general principle of free speech. However when Trump's nonsense and associated exhortations fueled violent insurrection they rightly drew the line. And again, they have every right to do this.
I'll add that it's noteworthy that most of the Trump defenders on this thread aren't Americans but bored Euros in basements, toughing out the cold weather. Wink.
Elvis 2008
01-15-21, 20:13
Trump lost regarding observers because there were observers still present.That is wrong.
Georgia elections were run by Republicans. Do you really think they were working to "Steal" votes from their candidate?This is a half-truth. Georgia has a Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. Raffensperger has already criticized Fulton County Director Richard Barron over firing two Republican whistle blowers. Barron was hated by Republicans even before he set foot in Fulton County for kicking out an observer in a previous election.
None of Trumps lawsuits claimed fraud because there was no proof of any fraud and if the lawyers claimed fraud without evidence they would face sanctions by the courts.Republican observers are told to leave. This idiot Barron says he did not tell them to leave but he just told the counters to leave? That makes no sense. Then Barron fires two Republican whistle blowers.
As to why they were fired, https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-news/backlash-follows-after-firing-of-fulton-poll-workers-who-spoke-out/IASV5RPWTFH2JPC2MT2VA6RPGM/.
The spokeswoman added that the women were under review for infractions, including: a violation for using cell phones to photograph elections activities, inappropriately showing ballots to a poll monitor and "making misrepresentations to the public on YouTube about problems with the elections that were false and misleading."
The spokeswoman did not respond when the AJC asked for the number of poll workers who were not re-hired for the January election.
She said that one batch of "absentee-style" ballots was "pristine" and didn't appeared to have been folded or handled like she would have expected from her 20 years of working elections. In that batch of about 110 ballots, basically all appeared to have been copies and were votes for former Vice President Joe Biden, she claimed. Two were for Trump.
The votes were from Quality Living Service, which is non-profit that offers housing for those over age 50 in southern Fulton.
Nguyen said that demographics show that an overwhelming Biden vote isn't suspicious in that part of the county.
The Justice department has found no evidence of fraud, the recent prosecutor appointed in Georgia has commented that he was surprised given all the claims that there are no cases that support prosecutions.Yeah, and that and $4 will buy you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Reading between the lines Barron only fired the two whistleblowers.
If controversial ballots go 110 to 2 for Biden, you have an official saying there is no fraud.
That pretty much tells me the same ratio of those 24,000 votes went for Biden, 55 to 1, and that is why they would not release the numbers.
You guys keep blaming Trump for the riots like you blame him for everything. There were rioters because of perceived injustice. This is a text book case of how fraud could have occurred. There needed to be depositions and a court case to see if in fact fraud did occur.
I am no political scholar like you guys but I think Biden won the same way Trump did in 2016. Back in 2016 the last thing this country wanted or needed was Hillary Clinton as president while she was embroiled in her scandals. It would have been bad for the country to start off like that.
This election IMO the electoral college gave it to Biden even if the number were so very close. WHY? Every city in America was boarded up prepared for what looked like a category 5 hurricane. Was this for a Biden win? NO.
If Trump was declared winner cities would have been turned upside down. A horrible way to start a presidency. Especially during Covid.
So far Biden has said and done all the right things. Unfortunately once his crew takes charge a whole new set of problems will arise and he and his administration will be blaming Trump for 4 years.
Are the elections 100% legit? I doubt it but I do believe the electoral college or whoever has the best interest of the country which is reflected in these presidential election results.
I guess it's only appropriate that the Trump presidency wind down with a late night infomercial pitch man, bad hair dye and all.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/15/mike-lindell-mypillow-trump-white-house-martial-law
ScatManDoo
01-16-21, 06:28
Trump being banned from Facebook and Twitter only demonstrate their lack of respect for free speech.On January 7th Mark Zuckerberg said the company was banishing Trump for using the platform to foment a violent riot in the District of Columbia a day before.
Omfg, you don't actually believe that do you? Yes, I believe what Mark Zuckerberg wrote about TrumpShit using his platform to foment a violent riot in the District of Columbia. You been under a rock ShooBree?
Are you really that stupid?Hey Stupid Swede, who do you think invited and incited that mob?
Again?
Anyways, Zuckerberg lied.No you spreader of lies. Trump invited and incited on Facebook.
It's been two weeks. Shoobree, can you finally answer the question? Did Trump win or lose his re-election bid? Oily smelt got your tongue? Hahahaha.
Yeah, and that and $4 will buy you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Reading between the lines Barron only fired the two whistleblowers.
If controversial ballots go 110 to 2 for Biden, you have an official saying there is no fraud.
That pretty much tells me the same ratio of those 24,000 votes went for Biden, 55 to 1, and that is why they would not release the numbers.
You guys keep blaming Trump for the riots like you blame him for everything. There were rioters because of perceived injustice. This is a text book case of how fraud could have occurred. There needed to be depositions and a court case to see if in fact fraud did occur.The Georgia votes were recounted twice. The recounts added a few hundred net votes to Trump when it was found a memory card from a machine was not included. The paper ballots were compared to the machine totals and found no errors.
Trump had is day in court. He could not provide any evidence in any cases. He lost. He is just shitting himself because he will spend the rest of eternity in court or jail.
His call to Raffensperger was clearly illegal. His only real hope is to be convicted on the Impeachment charges and hope Biden pardons him for the federal crimes as a healing gesture!
Chocha Monger
01-16-21, 12:08
I'm so extremely happy that I don't live in Zimbabwe, USA or South Africa. Let's hope that Trump wins the election in 2024.Your twice-impeached fallen idol will never hold public office in the United States of America again. However, you can always lead your own insurrection and crown him King of Sweden.
Chocha Monger
01-16-21, 12:34
So you are confessing that the Democrats are not interested in having a meritocracy, they're are more interested in having a racist society where incompetent blacks will be chosen instead of competent whites.You are confessing that the terrorist attack on the USA Capitol was an attempt by incompetent white supremacists to keep their failed president in office. LOL! The ragtag mob of insurrectionists were the worst trash from the underbelly of American society. Your hero QAnon Shaman is a bald failed actor who is unemployed and lives with his mommy in her basement. Why not do Americans a favor and petition the Swedish government for asylum for the insurrectionists? They will love socialist Sweden with the overpriced booze and radical feminists. LOL!
"One explanation I haven't heard for Trump's strong performance among Hispanic voters in 2020 has been the high regard in which the leftist president of Mexico, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, holds Trump. If your cousins back in Mexico are big AMLO fans and they tell you AMLO likes Trump, that cuts across ideological lines pretty well. . . I think the Trump-AMLO friendship was an enemy-of-my-enemy thing involving the Bush family in the US and the various neoliberals in Mexico like the Salinas family, with whom Jeb Bush used to vacation.
On election night 1988, the Mexican party of the left was finally about to win a Presidential election when suddenly the lights went out at the vote counting central. When the power finally went back on, the ruling Institutional Revolutionary party was somehow in the lead.
When the Cold War ended, the PRI president Carlos Salinas went to George H. W. Bush with a message the Bush family had long dreamt of: Mexico would open up to American business if it could be included in the free trade pact the US was (boringly) negotiating with Canada. This has been the Grand Strategy of the Bush family ever since GHWB had to hire front men to nominally own his Zapata oil company in Mexico because Americans have been banned from the Mexican oil biz since 1938. It's not widely recognized in the USA Media that the Bush dynasty's fundamental strategic vision over the last half century has been to knock down the barriers keeping American business out of Mexico in return for lowering the barriers keeping Mexican people out of America. (It's not a coincidence that two President Bushes' oil firms were named Zapata and Arbusto.) This is not an irrational plan, but it benefits elites (who own oil companies) more than the American public (that works for a living).
AMLO especially sympathizes with Trump's complaints about election fraud, in part because Lopez Obrador believes the 2006 Mexican presidential election was stolen from him by a late-arriving vote dump. He led a year of protests outside the capitol, then finally was elected president in 2018 . . . Steve Sailer.
From the Associated Press: Mexican president mounts campaign against social media bans.
MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico's president vowed Thursday to lead an international effort to combat what he considers censorship by social media companies that have blocked or suspended the accounts of USA President Donald Trump.
President Andrés Manuel López Obrador's administration is reaching out to other government to form a common front on the issue.
"How can a company act as if it was all powerful, omnipotent, as a sort of Spanish Inquisition on what is expressed?" he (AMLO) asked. . . "
Confusion arose when election workers thought they were done for the night, but then were instructed to continue scanning ballots... There was no confusion when ALL the facts, procedures and evidence you state here, was put forth in the courts. They were found baseless and unsubstantiated. In EACH and EVERY state, jurisdiction and court room throughout the country, where they were contested.
Qualified lawyers (on both sides Rep. / Dem.) have argued and deliberated, many of the same arguments you've mentioned (especially Georgia) and Republicans lost in every case and were overwhelmingly defeated in every state they contested. I am not a lawyer, but if you happen to be pretty good lawyer and know the ins and outs of electoral constitutional voting laws. Then perhaps your arguments have more weight than I give them credit. By all means enlighten us, some more. If you choose not to accept the outcome, and cling to some other alternative reasoning, then that your choice. We all take solace in what we believe to be true.
I guess the "black supremacists" decided that hundreds of years of white supremacy was not working out for them. White liberal Americans will do just fine in the new America. White supremacists not so much. LOL! ...
Disgusting to see that you support black supremacists. SB, dude, the irony of your statement is so laughable, you only serve to incriminate yourself. If this isn't a clear case of "...the pot calling the kettle BLACK" ...LOL! ..kkkkkkk (Sorry just couldn't resist the irony).
You, dude are the arch white supremacist supporter in chief and no doubt you'll probably take this a complement. Disgusting Indeed!!!
Courts to Voters: Election Fraud Is 'Too Big to Fail' by Karen McQuillan.
The courts have spoken, one after another. Some 74 million Americans have been denied our day in court. The Democrats' crime of stealing a presidential election is too big to fail. . . " According to this author, the courts refused to hear the evidence due to "laches" and untimely filing. I. e. Should have sued before the election fraud took place. . . Sort of like calling the police before the burglars rob your house, otherwise it is untimely. . . So which courts heard "ALL the facts, procedures, and evidence you state here, was put forth in the courts. They were found baseless and unsubstantiated. . . " So which courts heard the evidence and issued rulings? From what I read, the courts were afraid to get involved. . . And accepted no cases and thus heard no evidence or made any rulings. I do think Trump should take the blame for not pushing through basic reforms like Mexico has for free government issue voter ID cards or requiring each voter in a federal election to either put their finger in purple ink or get a notarized signature on the election mail envelope. . .
A more useful guide is the BBC article on Vote Rigging: "Vote rigging: How to spot the tell-tale signs".
BBC World News. Africa.
2 September 2016.
BBC World News. Africa www dot bbc dot com / news / world-africa-37243190.
Too many voters Watch the turnout figures ‒ they can be a big giveaway.
You never get a 98% or 99% turnout in an honest election. You just don't.
Voting is compulsory in Gabon, but it is not enforced; even in Australia where it is enforced, where you can vote by post or online and can be fined for not voting, turnout only reaches 90-95%.
The main reason that a full turnout is practically impossible is that electoral registers, even if they are recently compiled, can rarely be 100% up-to-date.
Even if no-one gets sick or has to travel, people still die. And when a register is updated, new voters are keen to add themselves to the list.
No-one, however, has any great enthusiasm for removing the names of those who have died, and over time the number of these non-existent voters increases. ."
A simplified version of this is a classroom of 30 kids votes for class president. Suzy gets 21 votes; Tommy get 152 votes. Over votes are a giveaway as to vote rigging. You do the math. Another giveaway is to watch the inauguration on TV. If the number of soldiers surrounding the new "elected" leader "protecting" him from the public exceeds the number of his supporters, you might have had a stolen election. . . Time for Americans to grow up and realize that there is no Santa Claus and the people who counted the votes are the ones that matter, not the people who voted, just as Stalin said.
There was no confusion when ALL the facts, procedures and evidence you state here, was put forth in the courts. They were found baseless and unsubstantiated. In EACH and EVERY state, jurisdiction and court room throughout the country, where they were contested.
If you choose not to accept the outcome, and cling to some other alternative reasoning, then that your choice. We all take solace in what we believe to be true.
ScatManDoo
01-16-21, 21:12
Never in the United States has a presidential incumbent had more votes casts against his re-election than Trump.
No incumbant has ever gotten as much ballot rejection than Donald Fuck-up Trump.
The last incumbent to run was Barack Obama. He got about 66 million votes. Romney got around 61 million and roughly 2 million votes went to minor party candidates.
63 million voters did not want a repeat of Barack Obama. When counting all the votes against Trump, it looks like it will be 35 or 40% greater!
Donald Trump was not beloved. He's been spit out of office by around 84 million votes and still counting! That's over 20 million more thumbs down votes than anyone else that held that office.
Donald Trump is so beloved that despite a recession and having the fake news media against him, they still had to count the votes for four days before they could even announce a winner. No one had received over 70 million votes before this election, The relevant point is that no incumbent before ever lost by a crushing 7 million vote margin.
Trump crushed it by several millions.No idiota, TrumpShit was crushed by 84 million votes cast against his lying ass.
Biden hasn't received 84, not even 82, million votes as we speak. I never said he did liar. Can you read in English?
You should learn how to count.You should learn how to read, stupido.
You're an embarrassment for yourself. Stop being a pathetic hater.Projecting once more.
Lies like ShooBree continues to tell, resulted in 4 deaths on January 6th by his fellow Trump Goons as well as an on-duty Cop protecting our Capital & elected officials.
To perpetuate these ridiculous lies from Donald Trump leaves blood on all the Trump Goon hands.
On January 7th Mark Zuckerberg said the company was banishing Trump for using the platform to foment a violent riot in the District of Columbia a day before.
Yes, I believe what Mark Zuckerberg wrote about TrumpShit using his platform to foment a violent riot in the District of Columbia. You been under a rock ShooBree?
Hey Stupid Swede, who do you think invited and incited that mob?
Again?
No you spreader of lies. Trump invited and incited on Facebook.
It's been two weeks. Shoobree, can you finally answer the question? Did Trump win or lose his re-election bid? Oily smelt got your tongue? Hahahaha.
SB (stupid bastard) knows very well his hero lost but he won't admit it otherwise Trump becomes a loser in his eyes. SB should see a shrink. And to make matters worse, Trump lost even after vomiting thousands of lies year after year to mislead people.
Your twice-impeached fallen idol will never hold public office in the United States of America again. However, you can always lead your own insurrection and crown him King of Sweden.This by far is the greatest suggestion I have seen on this thread!
Elvis 2008
01-16-21, 23:41
The Georgia votes were recounted twice. The recounts added a few hundred net votes to Trump when it was found a memory card from a machine was not included. The paper ballots were compared to the machine totals and found no errors.So what? What were the results of the 24,000 unsupervised votes cast in Fulton County? You want me not to believe there was fraud. What was that number? What is known is that when a counter complained about questionable ballots going 55 to 1 in Biden's favor, we were told that is perfectly fine.
Trump had is day in court. He could not provide any evidence in any cases. He lost.No, he did not. Quit lying. There was no one deposed. The judges tossed the cases even with all the circumstantial evidence and affidavits that fraud occurred.
You cannot prove fraud unless you know the vote total. Shit, if those unsupervised votes went 24,000 Biden and zero Trump, you would probably still be saying there was no evidence of fraud.
ScatManDoo
01-17-21, 02:40
So what? What were the results of the 24,000 unsupervised votes cast in Fulton County?There were election count observers prior, during and after these cast votes you keep taking about. That was the testimony in court.
If observers failed to observe, it proves no fraud, just that the GOP can't find competent election observers as well as competent candidates.
Hahahaha.
No, he did not. Quit lying. There was no one deposed. The judges tossed the cases even with all the circumstantial evidence and affidavits that fraud occurred.
You cannot prove fraud unless you know the vote total. Shit, if those unsupervised votes went 24,000 Biden and zero Trump, you would probably still be saying there was no evidence of fraud.If Trump had competent legal counsel.
They would have questioned witnesses. And then deposed the witnesses that had evidence a competent attorney wants to highlight and present.
Competent attorney's refer to this as the the 'nuts and bolts' of building a case.
Why did TrumpShit lawyers present no evidence of fraud? Seems like they could not find any evidence.
And that is why TrumpShit attorneys had NO evidence to present on the days of trial, in contrast to what winning attorneys do.
But we saw from court that Trump and his legal team are a bunch of incompetents.
Only dumb shithead attorneys and Fat Elvis try to gather evidence after the day of the hearings.
So what? What were the results of the 24,000 unsupervised votes cast in Fulton County? You want me not to believe there was fraud. What was that number? What is known is that when a counter complained about questionable ballots going 55 to 1 in Biden's favor, we were told that is perfectly fine.
No, he did not. Quit lying. There was no one deposed. The judges tossed the cases even with all the circumstantial evidence and affidavits that fraud occurred.
You cannot prove fraud unless you know the vote total. Shit, if those unsupervised votes went 24,000 Biden and zero Trump, you would probably still be saying there was no evidence of fraud.Trump lost his cases because he had not evidence. Heresay is not evidence.
But in the real world.
Prosecutors in Georgia appear increasingly likely to open a criminal investigation of President Donald Trump over his attempts to overturn the results of the state's 2020 election, an inquiry into offenses that would be beyond his federal pardon power.
The new Fulton County district attorney, Fani Willis, is already weighing whether to proceed, and among the options she is considering is the hiring of a special assistant from outside to oversee the investigation, according to people familiar with her office's deliberations.
At the same time, David Worley, the lone Democrat on Georgia's five-member election board, said this week that he would ask the board to make a referral to the Fulton County district attorney by next month. Among the matters he will ask prosecutors to investigate is a phone call Trump made in which he pressured Georgia's secretary of state to overturn the state's election results.
In 2002 when then former President G. W. Bush, made finding voter fraud his top priority. He had his attorney general, John Ashcroft, assign voter fraud as a top priority for the Department of Justice. After years of trying, the federal prosecutors kept coming up empty. They charged more people with violating migratory bird laws (when people change states) than voting statutes.
They found nothing! No Fraud! No Violations! Even after several years of searching and examining over a BILLION votes spanning more than a decade and they found 31 cases of voter fraud. Only 31 Cases! ..
In October 2006, President Bush told Mr. Ashcroft's successor, Alberto are. Gonzales, that he had heard about fraud in Albuquerque, Milwaukee and Philadelphia. Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's aide, warned Mr. Gonzales he had these so called "concerns" about voter fraud.
In several highly unusual moves, seven United States attorneys were forced to resign, on top of two more pushed out earlier. Events unfold and soon a scandal erupted and those involved in the scheme to manufacture voter fraud, found themselves in congressional hearings. Those involved, resigned, quit or were fired in disgrace.
So true to form with regards to losing an election, the Republicans, proceed to tell lies, spread falsehoods and try to manufacture the evidence to support said voter frauds. If you can't find the crime, then fire the attorney generals and prosecutors, install your own people and make shit up. Sound familiar!
Certainly does seem like the Republicans, relish repeating the FAILURES of the past. Political insanity, perhaps. Political suicide?
In 2002 when then former President G. W. Bush, made finding voter fraud his top priority. He had his attorney general, John Ashcroft, assign voter fraud as a top priority for the Department of Justice. After years of trying, the federal prosecutors kept coming up empty. They charged more people with violating migratory bird laws (when people change states) than voting statutes.
They found nothing! No Fraud! No Violations! Even after several years of searching and examining over a BILLION votes spanning more than a decade and they found 31 cases of voter fraud. Only 31 Cases! ..
In October 2006, President Bush told Mr. Ashcroft's successor, Alberto are. Gonzales, that he had heard about fraud in Albuquerque, Milwaukee and Philadelphia. Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's aide, warned Mr. Gonzales he had these so called "concerns" about voter fraud.
In several highly unusual moves, seven United States attorneys were forced to resign, on top of two more pushed out earlier. Events unfold and soon a scandal erupted and those involved in the scheme to manufacture voter fraud, found themselves in congressional hearings. Those involved, resigned, quit or were fired in disgrace.
Add Kris Kobach to the phony fraud hunter list. Trump whined about losing the 2016 election by 3 m votes and put Kris to work. Net result a big nothing burger!
So what? What were the results of the 24,000 unsupervised votes cast in Fulton County? You want me not to believe there was fraud. What was that number? What is known is that when a counter complained about questionable ballots going 55 to 1 in Biden's favor, we were told that is perfectly fine.
No, he did not. Quit lying. There was no one deposed. The judges tossed the cases even with all the circumstantial evidence and affidavits that fraud occurred.
You cannot prove fraud unless you know the vote total. Shit, if those unsupervised votes went 24,000 Biden and zero Trump, you would probably still be saying there was no evidence of fraud.https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/04/giuliani-boasts-about-finally-providing-evidence-fraud-which-doesnt-appear-be-evidence-fraud/
ScatManDoo
01-17-21, 14:25
. . . So which courts heard "ALL the facts, procedures, and evidence you state here, was put forth in the courts. They were found baseless and unsubstantiated. . . " So which courts heard the evidence and issued rulings? From what I read, the courts were afraid to get involved. . . .Transcripts and news reports consistently reported why Trump lost. His attorneys consistently presented cases that were big on accusations of fraud, but lacked evidence demonstrating the fraud. So just a bunch of foolish, empty accusations that convince only the most foolish of Trump supporters, like you.
Another giveaway is to watch the inauguration on TV. If the number of soldiers surrounding the new "elected" leader "protecting" him from the public exceeds the number of his supporters, you might have had a stolen election. . . .Or in our case, we have thousands of deluded fools taking their cues from seditious liars. Fools that eat-up the lies gleefully.
Elvis 2008
01-17-21, 17:36
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/04/giuliani-boasts-about-finally-providing-evidence-fraud-which-doesnt-appear-be-evidence-fraud/That official, Frances Watson, also denied that anyone had been told to leave the room. A monitor from the state election board also told Lead Stories that he was present the entire time.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/video-georgia-election-false-fraud_n_5fcac976c5b619bc4c330575
After a short period when observers weren't present, an independent state election board monitor arrived to oversee the scanning at 11:52 pm.
So one story says an observer was present and another says none were present. You dumb ass Dimocrats cannot even get your stories straight in the liberal press!
From the conservative press, https://noqreport.com/2020/12/03/bombshell-video-evidence-of-clear-voter-fraud-presented-in-georgia-for-the-first-time/.
Attorney Jackie Pick presented video evidence that Georgia election officials in that State Farm Arena tabulation center instructed press and ballot observers to leave around 10:20 pm on election night because counting was going to stop until the morning. We can see the observers leave while four people stayed behind doing nothing. Once the observers were gone, the four ballot counters sprung into action, pulling boxes of ballots from under their tables to continue counting.
Let me go back to this quote from the Washington Post for a second: That official, Frances Watson, also denied that anyone had been told to leave the room. A monitor from the state election board also told Lead Stories that he was present the entire time.
There is a fucking video showing everyone leaving! The people covered up the tables, and four people stayed behind on the instructions of Barron. Where is this fucking observer on the video?
If you are a Dimocrat dumbshit only concerned about winning and do not give a damn about the election process and your own fucking vote, everything that happened in Fulton County was fine.
You cite a story that no one was told to leave, and you look at that video where everyone but four people leave and covers up their tables, and you all are, "Gee, Duh, looks fine to me".
It really is amazing how stupid people you are.
Another giveaway is to watch the inauguration on TV. If the number of soldiers surrounding the new "elected" leader "protecting" him from the public exceeds the number of his supporters, you might have had a stolen election. . .What amateurish reasoning. Can we say non-sequitur? You apparently missed all the mass street celebrations breaking out all over the country on the Saturday when the media called the election. And for the 1000th time, Trump had his day in court upwards of 50 times and only struck out. And while we are at it lets call this for the race baiting that it is, targeting predominantly black urban populated counties, straight out of Trump's playbook from day one. Most in the country aren't on with bigotry and Covid denialism, thus Trump lost. Better luck next time pal. In the meantime quit crying.
Josh Hawley sees consquences for being an unAmerican, opportunistic little weasel.
"'As a publisher,' Simon and Schuster's statement continued, 'it will always be our mission to amplify a variety of voices and viewpoints. At the same time we take seriously our larger public responsibility as citizens, and cannot support Senator Hawley after his role in what became a dangerous threat to our democracy and freedom.'
"His one-time mentor, former Missouri Sen. John Danforth, told the St. Louis Post Dispatch that Hawley is to blame for the riot and that supporting Hawley's 2018 bid for USA Senate was 'the worst mistake' of his life."
https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/08/josh-hawley-book-deal-lost-publisher-dc-riots-simon-schuster/6590357002/
On January 7th Mark Zuckerberg said the company was banishing Trump for using the platform to foment a violent riot in the District of Columbia a day before.
Yes, I believe what Mark Zuckerberg wrote about TrumpShit using his platform to foment a violent riot in the District of Columbia. You been under a rock ShooBree?
Hey Stupid Swede, who do you think invited and incited that mob?
Again?
No you spreader of lies. Trump invited and incited on Facebook.
It's been two weeks. Shoobree, can you finally answer the question? Did Trump win or lose his re-election bid? Oily smelt got your tongue? Hahahaha.Haha, pathetic! But what to expect from a libtard like you.
Show me the evidence. Show me the posts on Facebook where Trump "incited violence".
You can't, because you're a liar.
You are confessing that the terrorist attack on the USA Capitol was an attempt by incompetent white supremacists to keep their failed president in office. LOL! The ragtag mob of insurrectionists were the worst trash from the underbelly of American society. Your hero QAnon Shaman is a bald failed actor who is unemployed and lives with his mommy in her basement. Why not do Americans a favor and petition the Swedish government for asylum for the insurrectionists? They will love socialist Sweden with the overpriced booze and radical feminists. LOL!Blah, blah, blah.
Come back when you've anything of value to say. Anyways, I guess you have yet to see the inner city ghettos and all the nice Democrats living there.
Don't worry, USA is already full of radical feminists.
"One explanation I haven't heard for Trump's strong performance among Hispanic voters in 2020 has been the high regard in which the leftist president of Mexico, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, holds Trump. If your cousins back in Mexico are big AMLO fans and they tell you AMLO likes Trump, that cuts across ideological lines pretty well. . . I think the Trump-AMLO friendship was an enemy-of-my-enemy thing involving the Bush family in the US and the various neoliberals in Mexico like the Salinas family, with whom Jeb Bush used to vacation.
On election night 1988, the Mexican party of the left was finally about to win a Presidential election when suddenly the lights went out at the vote counting central. When the power finally went back on, the ruling Institutional Revolutionary party was somehow in the lead.
When the Cold War ended, the PRI president Carlos Salinas went to George H. W. Bush with a message the Bush family had long dreamt of: Mexico would open up to American business if it could be included in the free trade pact the US was (boringly) negotiating with Canada. This has been the Grand Strategy of the Bush family ever since GHWB had to hire front men to nominally own his Zapata oil company in Mexico because Americans have been banned from the Mexican oil biz since 1938. It's not widely recognized in the USA Media that the Bush dynasty's fundamental strategic vision over the last half century has been to knock down the barriers keeping American business out of Mexico in return for lowering the barriers keeping Mexican people out of America. (It's not a coincidence that two President Bushes' oil firms were named Zapata and Arbusto.) This is not an irrational plan, but it benefits elites (who own oil companies) more than the American public (that works for a living).Probably the most interesting post I've ever read on ISG.
SB, dude, the irony of your statement is so laughable, you only serve to incriminate yourself. If this isn't a clear case of "...the pot calling the kettle BLACK" ...LOL! ..kkkkkkk (Sorry just couldn't resist the irony).
You, dude are the arch white supremacist supporter in chief and no doubt you'll probably take this a complement. Disgusting Indeed!!!Haha, pathetic. Not supporting black supremacy doesn't make me a white supremacist. You have to do better than that.
The relevant point is that no incumbent before ever lost by a crushing 7 million vote margin.
No idiota, TrumpShit was crushed by 84 million votes cast against his lying ass.
I never said he did liar. Can you read in English?
You should learn how to read, stupido.
Projecting once more.
Lies like ShooBree continues to tell, resulted in 4 deaths on January 6th by his fellow Trump Goons as well as an on-duty Cop protecting our Capital & elected officials.
To perpetuate these ridiculous lies from Donald Trump leaves blood on all the Trump Goon hands.Haha, you're a pathetic hater.
Trump is living rent free in your head.
You're a liar, just admit it.
I can read, I can count and I can honestly call you out for being a liar.
Trump holds the record of most received votes for a sitting US President, 8 million more votes compared to Obama in 2012. Obama actually received 3.5 millions less votes in 2012 than in 2008.
You're a simpleminded weirdo. A disgusting, lying libtard with hate in your heart.
I find you to be boring, for you it's all about personal attacks and never a word about real political issues. Probably because you actually don't know anything about politics.
In 2002 when then former President G. W. Bush, made finding voter fraud his top priority. He had his attorney general, John Ashcroft, assign voter fraud as a top priority for the Department of Justice. After years of trying, the federal prosecutors kept coming up empty. They charged more people with violating migratory bird laws (when people change states) than voting statutes.
They found nothing! No Fraud! No Violations! Even after several years of searching and examining over a BILLION votes spanning more than a decade and they found 31 cases of voter fraud. Only 31 Cases! ..
In October 2006, President Bush told Mr. Ashcroft's successor, Alberto are. Gonzales, that he had heard about fraud in Albuquerque, Milwaukee and Philadelphia. Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's aide, warned Mr. Gonzales he had these so called "concerns" about voter fraud.
In several highly unusual moves, seven United States attorneys were forced to resign, on top of two more pushed out earlier. Events unfold and soon a scandal erupted and those involved in the scheme to manufacture voter fraud, found themselves in congressional hearings. Those involved, resigned, quit or were fired in disgrace.Didn't Al Gore and the Democrats cry about "voter fraud"?
Maybe that doesn't count. LOL!
ScatManDoo
01-18-21, 01:59
Trump holds the record of most received votes for a sitting US President, 8 million more votes compared to Obama in 2012. Obama actually received 3.5 millions less votes in 2012 than in 2008.That's a stupid comparison from the stupid Swede.
Why not compare compare eight years in office, to just four years and sent packing? Celebrate your loser's loss. Drink a toast to losing. It's what you appear to know and find comfort in.
Compare Obama's reelection bid where he won reelection with 3 million more votes than Romney. Compare that to Trump being trounced, more than 7 million votes short of what the popular winning choice was. Hahahaha.
You don't compile a winning record like Obama's, by falsely denying you losses and defeats as loser Trump and his loser followers do.
Trump holds the record of most received votes for a sitting US PresidentHe also holds the record for most impeachments of all one and two term presidents. Double the next worst.
ScatManDoo
01-18-21, 02:06
Didn't Al Gore and the Democrats cry about "voter fraud"?
Maybe that doesn't count. LOL!Gore does not have the blood on his hands from lying and inciting idiots to storm the congress over false voter fraud claims.
That official, Frances Watson, also denied that anyone had been told to leave the room. A monitor from the state election board also told Lead Stories that he was present the entire time.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/video-georgia-election-false-fraud_n_5fcac976c5b619bc4c330575
After a short period when observers weren't present, an independent state election board monitor arrived to oversee the scanning at 11:52 pm.
So one story says an observer was present and another says none were present. You dumb ass Dimocrats cannot even get your stories straight in the liberal press!
From the conservative press, https://noqreport.com/2020/12/03/bombshell-video-evidence-of-clear-voter-fraud-presented-in-georgia-for-the-first-time/.
Attorney Jackie Pick presented video evidence that Georgia election officials in that State Farm Arena tabulation center instructed press and ballot observers to leave around 10:20 pm on election night because counting was going to stop until the morning. We can see the observers leave while four people stayed behind doing nothing. Once the observers were gone, the four ballot counters sprung into action, pulling boxes of ballots from under their tables to continue counting.
Let me go back to this quote from the Washington Post for a second: That official, Frances Watson, also denied that anyone had been told to leave the room. A monitor from the state election board also told Lead Stories that he was present the entire time.
There is a fucking video showing everyone leaving! The people covered up the tables, and four people stayed behind on the instructions of Barron. Where is this fucking observer on the video?
If you are a Dimocrat dumbshit only concerned about winning and do not give a damn about the election process and your own fucking vote, everything that happened in Fulton County was fine.
You cite a story that no one was told to leave, and you look at that video where everyone but four people leave and covers up their tables, and you all are, "Gee, Duh, looks fine to me".
It really is amazing how stupid people you are.Don't tell me that Trump won the election BIG, a landslide, as he used to say! Get real, your candidate and idol LOST the election, 7 million votes behind Biden. I am really sorry for people that resort to insults out of desperation. You can call us names but that won't change the outcome, from Wednesday the americans will have a decent if not charismatic guy at the White House.
ScatManDoo
01-18-21, 02:18
You're a liar, just admit it.
I can read, I can count and I can honestly call you out for being a liar.
Trump holds the record of most received votes for a sitting US President, 8 million more votes compared to Obama in 2012. Obama actually received 3.5 millions less votes in 2012 than in 2008.
You're a simpleminded weirdo. A disgusting, lying libtard with hate in your heart.As ShooBree crumbles to his knees, sobbing uncontrollably.
Unable to be consoled when he thinks about no longer getting all those personalized Tweets that Trump would send only to him, and his nine cats.
Don't tell me that Trump won the election BIG, a landslide, as he used to say! Get real, your candidate and idol LOST the election, 7 million votes behind Biden. I am really sorry for people that resort to insults out of desperation. You can call us names but that won't change the outcome, from Wednesday the americans will have a decent if not charismatic guy at the White House.I'll add that some people are under the impression that if they lie often enough and for long enough, and especially if they cut on the cap key and use exclamation marks, that what they say will become true. But regarding the unanimous decision of a federal three judge panel, 3rd District of PA:
"'Charges of unfairness are serious,' Bibas wrote in the nonprecedential opinion. 'But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here. " Bibas is a former clerk for USA Supreme Court Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, a former federal prosecutor, and a former law and criminology professor at the University of Pennsylvania Law School. The two other judges on the panel, Chief Judge the. Brooks Smith and Judge Michael Chagares, are appointees of President George W. Bush. ".
https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/3rd-circuit-calling-an-election-unfair-does-not-make-it-so
And rehashing info from proven, chronic liars like Hannity, Roger Stone, Alex Jones, Rudy Giuliani etc. Of course will never cut it. Proof is needed in a court of law. Well damn, it never happened, not even after 50+ tries. Conservatives that are still crying need to mop up the tears and look to the midterms.
RandMcNasty
01-18-21, 03:24
Didn't Al Gore and the Democrats cry about "voter fraud"?
Maybe that doesn't count. LOL!Do you mean did Al Gore even before the election say that the only way he would lose is if the other guy cheated?
And that Al Gore never conceded, claiming the whole time that he won in a LANDSLIDE?
And Al Gore had a team of lawyers filing 60 lawsuits trying to get the results overturned in each of the 3 swing states he would have needed to overturn to change the outcome of the election? Quite unsuccessfully.
And Al Gore phoned the Secretary of State of each of these states asking for them to "find more votes" for him?
And Al Gore whipped up a roided out army of thugs to come to the capital to "encourage" the sitting VP (also Al Gore oddly enough) to ignore his constitutional duty to certify the election he lost?
And when Al Gore (the VP) didn't give in to Al Gore (the Presidential candidate) he got his mob of liberals to storm the capitol, chanting "Hang Al Gore"?
And when Al Gore then praised these people that he loved them and they were special AFTER they had chanted "Hang Al Gore", breached the capitol and almost got to Al Gore? (WOW he IS FAST).
Oh yeah, you are right. Al Gore did all these things!
Chocha Monger
01-18-21, 04:09
I still get questions as to why I, being Norwegian, write more about Sweden than I do about my own country. First of all: I do write about Norway sometimes. And second of all: If you look at capital cities alone, Oslo could quite possibly be the worst city in Scandinavia. However, in virtually all other respects, Sweden is worse. And yes, it is every bit as bad as I say it is.
The primary reason why I write so much about Sweden is because it is the most totalitarian country in the Western world, and should thus serve as a warning to others. The second reason is that Sweden, like my own country, now needs some "tough love. " Too many Swedes still cling on to the myth of the "Swedish model" while their country is disintegrating underneath their feet. If Sweden the nation is to be saved – if it still can be saved, I'm not so sure – then Sweden the ideological beacon for mankind must be smashed, because vanity now blocks sanity.
https://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2278
DoomBringer321
01-18-21, 04:09
You know, one of the things about growin up in 3 different countries in my formative years, is that you get cultural perspective. Being in high school in america what I recall growing up in FL is the indoctrination your typical cuban or latino migrant used to come in and within a year was an expert in baseball and wearing the hat backwards and all of that, I used to hear my classmates talk about how in third world countries thay were so different so primitive that this could never happend to US america the greatest country on planet earth, I even believed this illusion good memories good times.
However we forgot that even though we are amercian we are also HUMANS subject to the same pressures and prejudices like any other culture, it's quite frankly a goddam shame the greatest country in theory on planet earth managin this pandemic like a complete shit show, we can complain who's fault it's but one thing is clear this sort of thing is not happening in Germany or even latin america, the chaos the entitlement the dillusion and mismanagement is not just a thing OTHERS do, and this level of political chaos is not supposed to be an american thing and this era has higlighted this with abundant clarity that this is apparently an american thing, so there are two choices either people pressure it's leaders to get off their ass and LEAD or let the nation decend on a slow chaotic decent like most empires of the past. One thing is clear as an american citizen I am happy to not be near the mess and enjoying the chaos from afar preferibly with a young thing or two as the suck on my dick as it should be done.
Do you mean did Al Gore even before the election say that the only way he would lose is if the other guy cheated?
And that Al Gore never conceded, claiming the whole time that he won in a LANDSLIDE?
And Al Gore had a team of lawyers filing 60 lawsuits trying to get the results overturned in each of the 3 swing states he would have needed to overturn to change the outcome of the election? Quite unsuccessfully.
And Al Gore phoned the Secretary of State of each of these states asking for them to "find more votes" for him?
And Al Gore whipped up a roided out army of thugs to come to the capital to "encourage" the sitting VP (also Al Gore oddly enough) to ignore his constitutional duty to certify the election he lost?
And when Al Gore (the VP) didn't give in to Al Gore (the Presidential candidate) he got his mob of liberals to storm the capitol, chanting "Hang Al Gore"?
And when Al Gore then praised these people that he loved them and they were special AFTER they had chanted "Hang Al Gore", breached the capitol and almost got to Al Gore? (WOW he IS FAST).
Oh yeah, you are right. Al Gore did all these things!Be careful of saying such things in public even though everyone currently knows none of that ever happened. Just saying it aloud or writing it is enough for it to take root in the minds of susceptible wingers starving to fill their heads with something, anything that will keep their fantasies alive. That is how Trump does it. He has been bamboozling his targeted suckers into believing things happened that never happened for years.
His first Impeachment was about him blackmailing the president of the Ukraine to merely announce that he has opened an investigation of the one likely Dem candidate that Team Trump knew even then would probably defeat him in 2020. He knew there was no evidence of Biden corruption to be found. That wasn't the point. All Trump needed was for an investigation announcement to be made and he would fill in the rest.
Same as they did with Comey's announcement of looking into Clinton's nothing burger emails again just days before the 2016 election.
Expect half the wingers who read that post to be 100% convinced Al Gore DID all those things by Noon tomorrow and the other half not quite sure but believe he might have.
Do you mean did Al Gore even before the election say that the only way he would lose is if the other guy cheated?
And that Al Gore never conceded, claiming the whole time that he won in a LANDSLIDE?
And Al Gore had a team of lawyers filing 60 lawsuits trying to get the results overturned in each of the 3 swing states he would have needed to overturn to change the outcome of the election? Quite unsuccessfully...
Oh yeah, you are right. Al Gore did all these things!
Didn't Al Gore and the Democrats cry about "voter fraud"?
Maybe that doesn't count. LOL!"Agent Orange", worst president in history. Even the, Republican Ex-Govenor "The Terminator", Arnold Schwarzenegger: Trump 'will go down in history as the worst president ever'. Well at least he got that right.
"Agent Orange", will be facing lawsuits from women accusing him of sexual misconduct, including rape; criminal investigations by both state and federal prosecutors in New York; a Senate impeachment trial that could bar him from holding federal office again; and potentially both civil and criminal exposure for his weekslong efforts to spark chaos at the USA Capitol in order to prevent Biden from being certified as the winner of the 2020 election. The ONLY US president to be impeached twice. What a legacy of FAILURES!
"Agent Orange", makes Al Gore, looks like a choir boy.
But according to "The Terminator", "Agent Orange", WON'T BE BACK....kkkkkkkkkk!
Josh Hawley sees consquences for being an unAmerican, opportunistic little weasel.
"'As a publisher,' Simon and Schuster's statement continued, 'it will always be our mission to amplify a variety of voices and viewpoints. At the same time we take seriously our larger public responsibility as citizens, and cannot support Senator Hawley after his role in what became a dangerous threat to our democracy and freedom.'
"His one-time mentor, former Missouri Sen. John Danforth, told the St. Louis Post Dispatch that Hawley is to blame for the riot and that supporting Hawley's 2018 bid for USA Senate was 'the worst mistake' of his life."
https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/politics/2021/01/08/josh-hawley-book-deal-lost-publisher-dc-riots-simon-schuster/6590357002/If you want to see "an unAmerican, opportunistic little weasel", I suggest that you take a look in the mirror.
The witch hunt's starting to get ridiculous. It's funny how Biden welcomes black supremacists and not a critical word is written by you un-American libtards. I can't really blame those in doubt of the fairness of the election considering how many times the deep state has overthrown democratically elected leaders in other countries.
Beijing4987
01-18-21, 08:14
Fat Nixon / Agent Orange Menace is tossed out like bird cage newspaper litter. What comes next won't be a picnic, but definitely a breath of fresh air. The basket of deplorables will wander the desert for forty years looking for another Moses. Two impeachments and not even one BJ. FN is a walking, talking impeachment.
ScatManDoo
01-18-21, 08:43
Haha, you're a pathetic hater.
Trump is living rent free in your head.
You're a liar, just admit it.
I can read, I can count and I can honestly call you out for being a liar.
Trump holds the record of most received votes for a sitting US President, 8 million more votes compared to Obama in 2012. Obama actually received 3.5 millions less votes in 2012 than in 2008.
You're a simpleminded weirdo. A disgusting, lying libtard with hate in your heart.
I find you to be boring, for you it's all about personal attacks and never a word about real political issues. Probably because you actually don't know anything about politics.Trump still was beaten by 7 million votes.
No matter how many personal attacks you wish to throw in your temper tantrums.
Hahahaha.
ShooBree, once again: Did Trump win or lose the 2020 presidential election?
Simple question to answer. Cat got your tongue?
Find your balls yet?
Fat Nixon / Agent Orange Menace is tossed out like bird cage newspaper litter. What comes next won't be a picnic, but definitely a breath of fresh air. The basket of deplorables will wander the desert for forty years looking for another Moses. Two impeachments and not even one BJ. FN is a walking, talking impeachment.I understand you feel that way considering that you adore the CCP and Biden is in their pocket.
Be careful of saying such things in public even though everyone currently knows none of that ever happened. Just saying it aloud or writing it is enough for it to take root in the minds of susceptible wingers starving to fill their heads with something, anything that will keep their fantasies alive. That is how Trump does it. He has been bamboozling his targeted suckers into believing things happened that never happened for years.
His first Impeachment was about him blackmailing the president of the Ukraine to merely announce that he has opened an investigation of the one likely Dem candidate that Team Trump knew even then would probably defeat him in 2020. He knew there was no evidence of Biden corruption to be found. That wasn't the point. All Trump needed was for an investigation announcement to be made and he would fill in the rest.
Same as they did with Comey's announcement of looking into Clinton's nothing burger emails again just days before the 2016 election.
Expect half the wingers who read that post to be 100% convinced Al Gore DID all those things by Noon tomorrow and the other half not quite sure but believe he might have.Please explain why a shady company like Burisma hired Joe Biden's crack smoking son?
Haha, you're a pathetic hater.
Trump is living rent free in your head.
You're a liar, just admit it.
I can read, I can count and I can honestly call you out for being a liar.
Trump holds the record of most received votes for a sitting US President, 8 million more votes compared to Obama in 2012. Obama actually received 3.5 millions less votes in 2012 than in 2008.
You're a simpleminded weirdo. A disgusting, lying libtard with hate in your heart.
I find you to be boring, for you it's all about personal attacks and never a word about real political issues. Probably because you actually don't know anything about politics.So, are you saying that Trump won because he received more votes than Obama? Correct me if I'm wrong but was Obama even running for President in 2020?
Please explain why a shady company like Burisma hired Joe Biden's crack smoking son?The usual reasons a company hires the children of high profile figures in the absence of remarkable qualifications is to lend credibility and status to their company and to perhaps buy some valuable influence.
Now, your turn. Please explain why Trump's personal Attorney General of the United States, Bill Barr, dismissed any need for a special council to investigate Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, any influence peddling or corruption between, by or for them and voter fraud even though his guy really, really needed and wanted him to?
Please explain why Trump's personal Attorney General of the United States, Bill Barr, dismissed any need for a special council to investigate Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, any influence peddling or corruption between, by or for them and voter fraud even though his guy really, really needed and wanted him to?Barr's a long-time Republican Party insider you've seen his resume, right?
Trump was his own worst enemy, in failing to compromise and accept political alliances. The current situation isn't and shouldn't be all about Donald Trump. It's being made that way by the Democrat Party for political capital. Like they created the conspiracy story of Russian election meddling for political capital.
Meanwhile, the forces that should really concern us are consolidating: with censorship. Tech monopolists Amazon, Apple & Google have removed Parler, a competitor to Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. With corporations enabled to direct elected officials to do their bidding, the classic definition of fascism becomes installed: the Corporate State. Don't be misdirected: so-called 'white supremacy' is not fascism, it may a component, a means to an end but is not in and of itself fascism. And, note the irony that an ethno-religion based on actual supremacy is in the forefront flogging the narrative of 'white supremacy.'
If you want to see "an unAmerican, opportunistic little weasel", I suggest that you take a look in the mirror...Dude, is that the best you can do, kindergarten insults? I expected better.
I know insulting ISGers and sending ISGers death threatening e-mails , is your thing, but you could put some "backbone" into it. Kindergarten insults are beneath you.
Go do it with some gusto, man!
SB, dude are the arch white supremacist supporter in chief, now run along and don't disappoint!
Beijing4987
01-18-21, 18:37
Members: please put trolls on your ignore list and most importantly, do not quote them. The rest of us are then exposed to their screed. Just state your case. Do not get sucked into a pissing contest with a fool. The only outcome is wet shoes.
Ignore me too or send a PM. My opinion means little.
So, are you saying that Trump won because he received more votes than Obama? Correct me if I'm wrong but was Obama even running for President in 2020?That's not what I wrote, I simply wrote that more people voted for Obama or any other sitting president.
The usual reasons a company hires the children of high profile figures in the absence of remarkable qualifications is to lend credibility and status to their company and to perhaps buy some valuable influence.So you're saying that hiring Joe Biden's son was a way to buy protection from Joe Biden. Sounds as corrupt as it gets!
ScatManDoo
01-18-21, 23:27
Donald Trump is STILL ranting that he won the election with less than 48 hours left in office. And calling GOP House leader Kevin McCarthy a 'puzzy' because 10 of his caucus voted to impeach.
President Donald Trump is still ranting that he won the election with less than 48 hours to go before he leaves office.
The New York Times reported Monday that Trump is especially mad at House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy as he nears his exit.
Trump called McCarthy a "pussy" for not being able to keep his members in line last week during Wednesday's impeachment vote.
Ten House Republicans voted alongside Democrats to impeach Trump for a second time, over his role in the January 6 MAGA riot.
McCarthy went on the House floor and assigned some blame to Trump, but also argued against impeaching the president.
That didn't matter to Trump, who has lashed out at his longtime political allies in recent weeks, also calling Vice President Mike Pence a 'puzzy'.
Trump is refusing to attend President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration on Wednesday and will land in Florida before Biden is sworn-in.
Beijing4987
01-18-21, 23:45
Today the life of a great American is celebrated, even in Arizona, which at first resisted, then capitulated in order to continue national conventions. Some racists changed the address of a Chattanooga, Tennessee hotel to avoid it being on a street named after MLK. By 2003,730 cities in 39 states had such a street name. Twenty-Five Thousand National Guard troops will insure a peaceful transfer of the presidency on January 20,2021 A Black man and a Jew will represent the state of Georgia as senators for the first time. Bob Dylan: "he not busy being born is busy dying".
So you're saying that hiring Joe Biden's son was a way to buy protection from Joe Biden. Sounds as corrupt as it gets!Hopin' and askin' ain't gettin'.
I said perhaps that is what Burisma was hoping for as is the case with every company that hires or appoints someone on their board with a famous last name.
But if merely hoping is an act of corruption then wag your finger of shame and disapproval at Burisma. Even Barr did not see a reason to assign a special council to investigate the Bidens more than the routine investigation and, so far, bupkiss that has turned up.
Same as his dismissal of Trump's unfounded claims of voter/election fraud as so much horseshit.
Elvis 2008
01-19-21, 02:08
Don't tell me that Trump won the election BIG, a landslide, as he used to say! Get real, your candidate and idol LOST the election, 7 million votes behind Biden. I am really sorry for people that resort to insults out of desperation. You can call us names but that won't change the outcome, from Wednesday the americans will have a decent if not charismatic guy at the White House.Where did I say Trump should have won? But to your larger point is as long as there were only 6 million fraudulent votes that is okay.
Yeah, you are really showing me how smart you are. You care more about who won then the power of your vote.
Elvis 2008
01-19-21, 02:11
I completely agree. I'll add that some people are under the impression that if they lie often enough and for long enough, and especially if they cut on the cap key and use exclamation marks.So if there were 6 million fraudulent votes, you were okay with that? Oh wait, I forgot who I was taking to. You are so arrogant you do not think anyone should get a vote.
30,534 lies told by Trump in 1,458 days.
Disconcerting of course, but what is even more disconcerting is all the sheeple that believe them. That represents a real threat to our democracy, as we've seen most glaringly in recent days.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?itid=lk_inline_manual_1
Barr's a long-time Republican Party insider you've seen his resume, right?
Trump was his own worst enemy, in failing to compromise and accept political alliances. The current situation isn't and shouldn't be all about Donald Trump. It's being made that way by the Democrat Party for political capital. Like they created the conspiracy story of Russian election meddling for political capital.
Meanwhile, the forces that should really concern us are consolidating: with censorship. Tech monopolists Amazon, Apple & Google have removed Parler, a competitor to Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. With corporations enabled to direct elected officials to do their bidding, the classic definition of fascism becomes installed: the Corporate State. Don't be misdirected: so-called 'white supremacy' is not fascism, it may a component, a means to an end but is not in and of itself fascism. And, note the irony that an ethno-religion based on actual supremacy is in the forefront flogging the narrative of 'white supremacy.'Like most people, you don't have a clue what fascism is. Or isn't. I suggest that you read the following Britanica article (remember to access the links on the left side). When you are done, you'll see how much of the definition applies to DJT. https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism.
Donald Trump is STILL ranting that he won the election with less than 48 hours left in office. And calling GOP House leader Kevin McCarthy a 'puzzy' because 10 of his caucus voted to impeach.
President Donald Trump is still ranting that he won the election with less than 48 hours to go before he leaves office.
The New York Times reported Monday that Trump is especially mad at House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy as he nears his exit.
Trump called McCarthy a "pussy" for not being able to keep his members in line last week during Wednesday's impeachment vote.
Ten House Republicans voted alongside Democrats to impeach Trump for a second time, over his role in the January 6 MAGA riot.
McCarthy went on the House floor and assigned some blame to Trump, but also argued against impeaching the president.
That didn't matter to Trump, who has lashed out at his longtime political allies in recent weeks, also calling Vice President Mike Pence a 'puzzy'.
Trump is refusing to attend President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration on Wednesday and will land in Florida before Biden is sworn-in.Of course the election was not rigged. It is impossible to rig an election. This election was handled fairly just like the elections in China and Russia. Also just as fair as the recent Uganda election. Now I suppose some of you are going to tell us that China and Russia are rigged too.
Of course the election was not rigged. It is impossible to rig an election. This election was handled fairly just like the elections in China and Russia. Also just as fair as the recent Uganda election. Now I suppose some of you are going to tell us that China and Russia are rigged too.Of course the democratic primaries were not rigged to deny Bernie Sanders the nomination. It is impossible to rig an election.
Yikes, many elderly in Norway died after taking the COVID-19 vaccine. 23 dead to be exact.
A commitment to citizenship also requires a firm rejection of those ridiculous two words: "both sides. " That both sides "do it," whatever "it" may be, is an anesthetizing balm for tribalists faced with uncomfortable evidence of wrongdoing. Yes, violent protest is always wrong. And yes, both the right and left have visible activists who accept or promote it. But to equate violence by a small group of antifa protesters in Portland with a presidentially-instigated insurrection in Washington the. See. Is not just wrong, it's madness.
A close cousin of the "both sides" opium poisoning our minds is whataboutism. Whataboutism holds no water as a moral defense when offered by toddlers battling for crayons. But it is now the go-to political get-out-of-jail-free card. For every clear breach of law or decency by Trump there is a bottomless inventory of transgressions by some Democrat to make everything right. Through some unholy alchemy, breaking a window in the Capitol is excused by a broken window in Portland.
No party or individual has a monopoly on sin or virtue. After the Civil War, the Democratic Party worked to reestablish murderous White supremacy in the South. There were no "both sides. " Meanwhile, last week, and over the last four years, the Republican Party supported and excused every anti-constitutional depredation of Trump, such as his desire to baselessly contest ballots that were lawfully cast and affirmed by the Electoral College, including on the very day of the insurrection. There were no "both sides."
That "they do it, too" is not a defense in kindergarten, in court or in the politics of a supposedly great democracy.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/opinions/america-almost-lost-democracy-protect-it-himes/index.html
Where did I say Trump should have won? But to your larger point is as long as there were only 6 million fraudulent votes that is okay.
Yeah, you are really showing me how smart you are. You care more about who won then the power of your vote.Of course there were a few fraudulent votes as always. And of course I am against rigged elections like in Russia whose leader Trump admires so much. He envies Mr. Putin as well because he would have liked to run the USA the same way the russian dictator does.
The point I would like to make once and for all is that the election was free and fair as state authorities declared and courts confirmed over and over again. The irony is that Trump could have won the election if he hadn't lied like there was no tomorrow and swept the pandemic under the carpet, if he had reached out to people instead of pandering to his supporters' basic instincts and making enemies everywhere because he can't stand being criticised, out of a inferiority complex he was apparently born with.
For me he is / was undoubtedly the worst american president ever, because he is ignorant, a liar and a crook, primitive, in a word, scum. I sincerely hope he will be barred from holding office in the future. The world will be grateful, with the exception of Putin, the rocket man, Bin Salman of SA and up to a point Xi as well.
Like most people, you don't have a clue what fascism is. Or isn't. I suggest that you read the following Britanica article (remember to access the links on the left side). When you are done, you'll see how much of the definition applies to DJT. https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism.This whole oxymoronic idea of "liberal Fascism" is a joke that serious historians and political scientists give no credibility to. It was put forth in 2008 by a conservative journalist, Jonah Goldberg in his book Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning. Golfinho is obsessed with the idea, but like with most any subject, he lacks a grip of even the basics. He's not worth investing much time with. Here are some reviews of the book and it's novel, non-historical arguments.
Austin W. Bramwell wrote in The American Conservative:
Repeatedly, Goldberg fails to recognize a reduction ad absurdum. In no case does Goldberg uncover anything more ominous than a coincidence. In elaborating liberalism's similarities to fascism, Goldberg shows a near superstitious belief in the power of taxonomy. Goldberg falsely saddles liberalism not just with relativism but with all manner of alleged errors having nothing to do with liberalism. Not only does Goldberg misunderstand liberalism, but he refuses to see it simply as liberalism. Liberal Fascism reads less like an extended argument than as a catalogue of conservative intellectual clichés, often irrelevant to the supposed point of the book. Liberal Fascism completes Goldberg's transformation from chipper humorist into humorless ideologue.
Curtis Yarvin wrote about the book:
One reason the Jonah Goldbergs of the world have such trouble telling their right from their left is that they expect some morphological feature of the State to answer the question for them. For anyone other than Goldberg, Stalin was on the left and Hitler was on the right. The difference is not a function of discrepancies in administrative procedure between the KZs and the Gulag. It's a function of social networks. Stalin was a real socialist, Hitler was a fake one. Stalin was part of the international socialist movement, and Hitler wasn't.
In The Nation, Eric Alterman wrote:
The book reads like a Google search gone gaga. Some Fascists were vegetarians; some liberals are vegetarians; ergo some Fascists were gay; some liberals are gay. Fascists cared about educating children; Hillary Clinton cares about educating children. Aha! Like Coulter, he's got a bunch of footnotes. And for all I know, they check out. But they are put in the service of an argument that no one with any knowledge of the topic would take seriously.
In The American Prospect, journalist David Neiwert wrote:
In his new book, Goldberg has drawn a kind of history in absurdly broad and comically wrongheaded strokes. It is not just history done badly, or mere revisionism. It's a caricature of reality, like something from a comic-book alternative universe: Bizarro history. Goldberg isn't content to simply create an oxymoron; this entire enterprise, in fact, is classic Newspeak. Along the way, he grotesquely misrepresents the state of academia regarding the study of fascism.
David Oshinsky of The New York Times wrote:
Liberal Fascism is less an exposé of left-wing hypocrisy than a chance to exact political revenge. Yet the title of his book aside, what distinguishes Goldberg from the Sean Hannitys and Michael Savages is a witty intelligence that deals in ideas as well as insults—no mean feat in the nasty world of the culture wars.
Michael Tomasky wrote in The New Republic:
So I can report with a clear conscience that Liberal Fascism is one of the most tedious and inane—and ultimately self-negating—books that I have ever read. Liberal Fascism is a document of a deeply frivolous culture, or sub-culture. However much or little Goldberg knows about fascism, he knows next to nothing about liberalism.
Philip Coupland, whose paper "H. G. Wells's 'Liberal Fascism'" was used as a source for Liberal Fascism, criticized Goldberg's understanding of the term:
Wells did not label his 'entire philosophy' liberal fascism, not in fact and not by implication. Liberal fascism was the name which he (and I) gave to his theory of praxis, that is his method of achieving his utopian goal, not the goal itself. Wells hoped for activists who would use what he considered to be 'fascist' means (technocratic authoritarianism and force) to achieve a liberal social end. In contrast, a 'liberal fascist' would pursue fascist ends but in a 'liberal' or at least more 'liberal' way.
Elvis 2008
01-19-21, 20:06
The point I would like to make once and for all is that the election was free and fair as state authorities declared and courts confirmed over and over again.You mean this court system? In a landmark case, the United States Supreme Court decided 7–2 against Scott, finding that neither he nor any other person of African ancestry could claim citizenship in the United States.
Blowing off thousands of affidavits of people who allege possible fraud is hardly reassuring. Those people needed to be deposed and then the people could decide if there was fraud.
I never said Trump won. What I have said is that all the electoral votes from Georgia could have easily gone to Trump. Then you look at the same pattern of kicking out Republican observers in all the other close states which just so happen to all go for Biden save for North Carolina and something stinks.
But it is what it is.
So here is my question to you Tavares: what do you think is going to happen in the next time? This asshole Barron in Georgia has already kicked out a neutral Republican observer before this election. What happens next time he tries this stunt? I think it is going to be a blood bath.
Elvis 2008
01-19-21, 20:21
Of course the democratic primaries were not rigged to deny Bernie Sanders the nomination. It is impossible to rig an election.LOL. Yeah Golinho, I was thinking the same thing. This is actually the Democratic establishment's 3rd go around. OTOH, Trump won even though the Republican establishment hated him.
What was funny was how open everyone was so open about what happened in 2020 with Bernie and how he got screwed.
I just want to show you something that cracked me up from the NY Times. Start of quote:
Early in the pandemic, many health experts — in the USA And around the world — decided that the public could not be trusted to hear the truth about masks. Instead, the experts spread a misleading message, discouraging the use of masks.
Their motivation was mostly good. It sprung from a concern that people would rush to buy high-grade medical masks, leaving too few for doctors and nurses. The experts were also unsure how much ordinary masks would help.
But the message was still a mistake.
It confused people. (If masks weren't effective, why did doctors and nurses need them?) It delayed the widespread use of masks (even though there was good reason to believe they could help). And it damaged the credibility of public health experts.
"When people feel as though they may not be getting the full truth from the authorities, snake-oil sellers and price gougers have an easier time," the sociologist Zeynep Tufekci wrote early last year.
Now a version of the mask story is repeating itself — this time involving the vaccines. Once again, the experts don't seem to trust the public to hear the full truth.
Right now, public discussion of the vaccines is full of warnings about their limitations: They're not 100 percent effective. Even vaccinated people may be able to spread the virus. And people shouldn't change their behavior once they get their shots.
These warnings have a basis in truth, just as it's true that masks are imperfect. But the sum total of the warnings is misleading, as I heard from multiple doctors and epidemiologists last week.
"We're underselling the vaccine," Dr. Aaron Richterman, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Pennsylvania, said.
"It's going to save your life — that's where the emphasis has to be right now," Dr. Peter Hotez of the Baylor College of Medicine said.
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are "essentially 100 percent effective against serious disease," Dr. Paul Offit, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, said. "It's ridiculously encouraging."
End of quote.
Can you believe this was from the New York Times? That they actually printed an article and Trump was not to blame for Covid? That others in government may have made a mistake?
If you work in government, it must be a scary time. Blaming all your screwups on Trump looks like it is now no longer fashionable.
The point I would like to make once and for all is that the election was free and fair as state authorities declared and courts confirmed over and over again. The irony is that Trump could have won the election if he hadn't lied like there was no tomorrow and swept the pandemic under the carpet, if he had reached out to people instead of pandering to his supporters' basic instincts and making enemies everywhere because he can't stand being criticised, out of a inferiority complex he was apparently born with. Yep, I thought the same thing too, right before COVID-19, came on the scene. "Agent Orange" and the Republicans had a very good chance to repeat.
But COVID-19 was IMHO, their "Achilles' heel". The onslaught of COVID-19, turned out to be serendipitous stroke of political irony for the Democrats. In the wake of COVID-19, record number of voters, in the 10's of millions, turned to MAIL-IN voting.
COVID-19 and MAIL-IN voters (and a heavy dose of presidential hubris), in one swift stroke, took down the Republicans and their gerrymandering, voter suppression and voter redistricting schemes. 7+ million more votes, for the win.
Tech monopolists Amazon, Apple & Google have removed Parler, a competitor to Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.'It has nothing to do with "monopolies," and everything to do with the fact that Parler is a rogue service that facilitated violent speech and planning that proceeded an attack on the US Capital, not to mention the stolen election lies that more mainstream platforms finally had enough of. Free speech isn't absolute, plus the US Constitution doesn't touch private companies in this matter. And since you list several different and independent social media and tech entities you cut against the concept of "monopoly. " I suppose behind this is supposed to be yet another unproven, diabolical conspiracy theory.
Successful, well managed companies tend to grow. That's called capitalism, the best of all the imperfect systems. If you think anti-trust laws are being violated then by all means make your case and promote implementation. Squawking half-baked ideas and conspiracy theories in a monger forum won't get you far.
That said, the fact that you stick up for scum like Parler betrays your sense of community with the wingnuts who can't get enough feasting on lies.
"Washington, D. C. —President-elect Joe Biden will be inaugurated this week, and due to his incredible popularity with the American people, he will be inaugurated in a top-secret location behind a massive 12-foot wall guarded by 30,000 soldiers.
"The reason President-elect Biden has to do this is that he's just so incredibly popular," said Don Lemon on CNN. "he has so many rabid fans that they might try to rush the stage as they're overcome with enthusiasm and love for Biden who is by far the most beloved candidate who has ever run for President."
In addition to the 12-foot electric fence topped with razor wire and the 30,000 heavily armed soldiers who have been vetted as loyal Democrats, there will be flying drones programmed to target MAGA hats, a platoon of ninjas, and a moat filled with crocodiles dug all the way around the Capitol Building and White House.
Biden will then be escorted to a secret underground bunker patrolled by attack choppers where he will give the oath of office in a dark concrete room with all the recording equipment turned off.
"This is a slight break in tradition but it's necessary because Biden is just so incredibly popular and loved by the people," said Nancy Pelosi.
Sources say that Biden will be brought to an undisclosed basement location after the inauguration to live out his remaining days peacefully until Kamala Harris's inauguration next week. . . '
Babylonbee Semisatire.
Mitch has finally grown a pair and is calling out Trump. Even though he is out of office tomorrow it appears that he may still be convicted in the Senate which would prevent him from running again.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-trump-capitol-riot-senate-weighs-another-impeachment-trial
McConnell addressed the insurrection during a floor speech Tuesday afternoon and said Trump "provoked" the mob that tried to use "fear and violence" to stop the Joint Session of Congress from certifying President-elect Joe Biden's win. :eek:
Mitch has finally grown a pair and is calling out Trump. Even though he is out of office tomorrow it appears that he may still be convicted in the Senate which would prevent him from running again.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-trump-capitol-riot-senate-weighs-another-impeachment-trial
McConnell addressed the insurrection during a floor speech Tuesday afternoon and said Trump "provoked" the mob that tried to use "fear and violence" to stop the Joint Session of Congress from certifying President-elect Joe Biden's win. :eek:Whatever his motives he's speaking the pure truth. One can watch the videos, listen to what the rioters were saying to each other and it's crystal clear what their motivations and aims were. And it's also very clear by tweet and speech that Trump had been egging them on with incendiary lies.
Elvis 2008
01-19-21, 23:53
Mitch has finally grown a pair and is calling out Trump. Even though he is out of office tomorrow it appears that he may still be convicted in the Senate which would prevent him from running again.Yeah, Congress is telling the public a guy who won a presidential election and got 70 million votes is not allowed to run again? There is no due process, no hearing, no witnesses, just Trump is obviously guilty by the House, and the Senate is going to say that is fine with us. And you are excited about that?
What do you think those 70 million Trump voters are going to think? Say sounds good to us?
Maybe you Dimocrats will figure out one day that the reason Trump got elected was how many of us were disenfranchised with the government, being told our votes do not matter, too big to fail meant too big to jail. I love how you dummies are cheering on how your vote counts less and less. Congress should not pick the president. We should. How much of an idiot do you have to be not to get that?
Like most people, you don't have a clue what fascism is. Or isn't. I suggest that you read the following Britanica article (remember to access the links on the left side). When you are done, you'll see how much of the definition applies to DJT. https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism.Encyclopedia Britannica? What is this: your homework assignment to get your 7th grade equivalency? Like most people educated in the language of their oppressors, you wouldn't know fascism from 'a bundle of elm or birch rods'.
And of course, Britannica references their two go-to bogeymen as fascism personified. I'd suggest for you Democracy Incorporated by Sheldon Wolin.
Repeat: Donald Trump is a symptom, not the problem.
This whole oxymoronic idea of "liberal Fascism" is a joke that serious historians and political scientists give no credibility to. It was put forth in 2008 by a conservative journalist, Jonah Goldberg in his book Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning. Golfinho is obsessed with the idea, but like with most any subject, he lacks a grip of even the basics. He's not worth investing much time with. Here are some reviews of the book and it's novel, non-hi.What irreverence are you cutting-and-pasting now?
If you ever get yourself able to comprehend the meaning and original context of classical liberalism you might be able to get a grip on the basics of the current system: 'neoliberalism'. Of course that would be wishful thinking: the 'political science' you reference has been rebranded as 'political economy' decades ago, long since evidently you had a book open in front of you.
What do you think those 70 million Trump voters are going to think? Say sounds good to us?
What do you think those 80 million plus Biden voters are going to think and say?
Here's the bottom line.
Go find yourself a nice quiet corner. Then man up and look to the midterms. The people have spoken and chosen a different path, which commences tomorrow.
ScatManDoo
01-20-21, 03:26
Yeah, Congress is telling the public a guy who won a presidential election and got 70 million votes is not allowed to run again?Yes, if Trump is impeached for high crimes.
There is no due process, no hearing, no witnesses,Accused criminal Trump gets a trial in the Senate.
just Trump is obviously guilty by the House, and the Senate is going to say that is fine with us.I think so. The evidence is clear that he invited and incited a riot at the capital to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power.
And you are excited about that?I am looking forward to it. Lock him up by June.
What do you think those 70 million Trump voters are going to think?Trump lost and lied to us about it. His lies cost lives.
Say sounds good to us?Should sound good to the nearly 82 million Americans that voted for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. That's should count more, because their count was more. Millions more!
Maybe you Dimocrats will figure out one day that the reason Trump got elected wasBy lying constantly when he ran in 2016 to bunch of midwestern suckers.
Anyone old enough (and not yet senescent, paulie) recollects how in the late 60's, it was the Left that entrenched power had to suppress in order to maintain their hegemony. Fast forward to now, and it's the Right that is being targeted.
It has everything to do with the suppression of Free Speech.
That 'the US Constitution doesn't touch private companies' is the means whereby your civil liberties will be taken away from you. Pay attention.
Yeah, Congress is telling the public a guy who won a presidential election and got 70 million votes is not allowed to run again? There is no due process, no hearing, no witnesses, just Trump is obviously guilty by the House, and the Senate is going to say that is fine with us. And you are excited about that?
What do you think those 70 million Trump voters are going to think? Say sounds good to us?
Maybe you Dimocrats will figure out one day that the reason Trump got elected was how many of us were disenfranchised with the government, being told our votes do not matter, too big to fail meant too big to jail. I love how you dummies are cheering on how your vote counts less and less. Congress should not pick the president. We should. How much of an idiot do you have to be not to get that?The guy is being impeached. He will get the chance to call witnesses, present evidence go through all the due processes this time. Just like he will get the opportunity in the many cases he will be facing in life after presidency. Can you run for public office when you are bankrupted and in prison?
"Washington, D. C. President-elect Joe Biden will be inaugurated this week, and due to his incredible popularity with the American people, he will be inaugurated in a top-secret location behind a massive 12-foot wall guarded by 30,000 soldiers.
"The reason President-elect Biden has to do this is that he's just so incredibly popular," said Don Lemon on CNN. "he has so many rabid fans that they might try to rush the stage as they're overcome with enthusiasm and love for Biden who is by far the most beloved candidate who has ever run for President."
In addition to the 12-foot electric fence topped with razor wire and the 30,000 heavily armed soldiers who have been vetted as loyal Democrats, there will be flying drones programmed to target MAGA hats, a platoon of ninjas, and a moat filled with crocodiles dug all the way around the Capitol Building and White House.
Biden will then be escorted to a secret underground bunker patrolled by attack choppers where he will give the oath of office in a dark concrete room with all the recording equipment turned off.Will still draw a bigger crowd than Trumps inauguration.
Joseph Biden's "inauguration" is empty. It's that simple, and that humiliating.
And that goes beyond the COVID restrictions freshly introduced for the event – with even the near-side of the National Mall which is allowed to be occupied – empty.
As One America News's Jack Posobiec said on the War Room Pandemic this morning: "This is what 80 million votes looks like?
Compare the images from 2017 (Trump's inauguration) and 2021 (Biden's) for yourself. . . "
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/this-is-what-80-million-votes-looks-like-biden-inauguration-empty-pics/
Biden inauguration: Tight security, small crowd, big problems. . . Dallas Morning News. Trump snub casts pall, as do heavy troop presence after Capitol riot and sparse attendance. . .
Will still draw a bigger crowd than Trumps inauguration.
Can you run for public office when you are bankrupted and in prison?That's the whole idea: make an example of Trump to send a message to anyone who would dare to presume that he could run for the Presidency, as if the USA was a democracy where the citizens could choose their leaders.
It's the same idea that is keeping Julian Assange in max-prisons for years on a 'bail' charge. And, he's not even a USA Citizen. Shouldn't anyone wonder at this point what a thing like Kambambala Harris (your president-in-waiting!) thinks about something like this website?
By lying constantly when he ran in 2016 to bunch of midwestern suckers.Was certainly key to the Trump election.
ScatManDoo
01-20-21, 21:44
Joseph Biden's "inauguration" is empty. It's that simple, and that humiliating.The Trump stain will be with the United States for a while.
Chocha Monger
01-20-21, 22:52
As it became clear that Trump was not, in fact, going to suddenly appear and order the arrest of all the Democrats, QAnon believers began to wonder if they had been tricked.
As the rest of the country waited for Joe Biden to be inaugurated, believers in the QAnon conspiracy theory thought they were about to see something else: the long-awaited mass arrests of Biden and a host of other "deep-state" Democrats, followed by the restoration of the Trump presidency.
"Trump will walk out during the arrest and thank America for reelection," one QAnon supporter posted on a forum shortly before the inauguration. "This will be remembered as the greatest day since the-Day."
As Biden was sworn in, though, the mass arrests that QAnon believers call "The Storm," stubbornly refused to happen. Trump really did appear to have left office, rather than springing the sly trap as they had all hoped. . The Democrats really did have control of the White House and both chambers of Congress.
The tens of thousands of National Guard soldiers QAnon believers thought would help Trump retake Washington instead appeared to be there for a more obvious purpose: protecting the city from the same crazed QAnon believers who had violently attacked the Capitol two weeks earlier.
"I'm about to puke," one QAnon fan watching Biden take the oath of office wrote.
For more than three years, tens of thousands of QAnon believers have pinned their hopes for the future on a second Trump term. They've become convinced that the government is run by a cabal of satanic pedophile-cannibals, and that Trump is the only way to restore justice. Many of them, egged by promises that Trump's "Plan" included the eradication of diseases and personal debt, pinned their dreamson QAnon as well, alienating friends and family with their ideas.
Then, on Wednesday afternoon, the QAnon future vanished, presenting the ever-expanding conspiracy theory with its greatest challenge yet.
As Biden's inauguration became ever more certain on Wednesday, QAnon believers rapidly cycled through rationalizations. They claimed that Trump was stepping down as the head of the United States "corporation" an idea borrowed from fringe sovereign citizen legal theories to become the head of a restored republic. Some QAnon leaders claimed that Biden himself was in on the scheme, and would soon help Trump carry out the arrests.
As Biden finally took office, however, the mood changed quickly on QAnon forums. QAnon channels on messaging app Telegram filled with gifs of far-right mascot Pepe the Frog crying, as believers claimed they had been duped. Believers said they felt sick, or wanted to throw up.
"Trump fooled us," complained one Telegram commenter.
"All my family and co-workers think I'm crazy," wrote another.
"I feel stupid," wrote a third.
Even major QAnon boosters saw their faith in the bizarre conspiracy theory shaken on Monday. QAnon booster Roy Davis co-authored a bestselling book promoting QAnon under the alias "Captain Roy," even getting his sports car painted with a giant, blazing "Q" on the hood.
As Biden was sworn in, Davis initially told The Daily Beast he didn't want to comment until he was sure Biden was really president. But as Biden's new title became official, Davis said he was ready to move on from Q something his doctor has long urged him to do anyway.
"We misinterpreted it," Davis said. "Maybe we should have done something different."
Other top QAnon figures appeared to be backing away. As the former administrator of QAnon clues website 8 kun, Ron Watkins had control over who posted as the mysterious "Q" and has been accused of being Q himself. But on Wednesday, Watkins suggested that the QAnon fight was over.
"Please remember all the friends and happy memories we made together over the past few years," Watkins wrote in a Telegram post.
Still, there are many signs that QAnon and the kind of unreality world it promoted will persist.
As Trump's defeat became more certain, QAnon followers changed their claims, beginning to insist that the president's war against the "deep state" had only begun. As the shock of Biden's inauguration wore off on Wednesday, QAnon forum posters encouraged one another to "hold the line," claiming that they had merely misunderstood the QAnon clues.
The problem created by QAnon seems set to remain, as well. QAnon has been tied to three murders and a terrorist incident near the Hoover Dam, along with a series of other crimes. Biden's top intelligence chief has promised an analysis of the threat posed by the conspiracy theory.
Even as he distances himself from QAnon, for example, Davis still thinks "Q" really was a government whistleblower revealing the truth about the world.
"It wasn't some kid in a basement," Davis said.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/im-about-to-puke-qanon-in-chaos-as-biden-takes-office
Chocha Monger
01-20-21, 23:13
LMFAO! They are most certainly not "heroes". They are black supremacists. Just look at the deranged woman Biden thought was a good pick:
https://meaww.com/tucker-carlson-accuses-kristen-clarke-joe-biden-pick-as-doj-civil-rights-division-racism-harvard
Black supremacists will play a big part in Bidens administration.
Too bad white liberal Americans wants to destroy the country. USA is on the path to become the next South Africa or Zimbabwe, a no-go area for white people.Agent Orange pardoned Little Wayne and Kwame Kilpatrick among dozens of Black heroes. The white supremacist insurrectionists waited in vain for pardons that never materialized. They will spend the next several years trying not to drop the soap. What a bunch of suckers! LOL!
https://www.bet.com/news/national/2021/01/20/kwame-kilpatrick-lil-wayne-trump-presidential-pardons-commutations.html
Joseph Biden's "inauguration" is empty. It's that simple, and that humiliating.
And that goes beyond the COVID restrictions freshly introduced for the event with even the near-side of the National Mall which is allowed to be occupied empty.
As One America News's Jack Posobiec said on the War Room Pandemic this morning: "This is what 80 million votes looks like?
Compare the images from 2017 (Trump's inauguration) and 2021 (Biden's) for yourself. . . "
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/this-is-what-80-million-votes-looks-like-biden-inauguration-empty-pics/
Biden inauguration: Tight security, small crowd, big problems. . . Dallas Morning News. Trump snub casts pall, as do heavy troop presence after Capitol riot and sparse attendance. . .What are you getting at? That Trump won because his inauguration had way more people than Biden's, right?
Chocha Monger
01-21-21, 00:11
As ShooBree crumbles to his knees, sobbing uncontrollably.
Unable to be consoled when he thinks about no longer getting all those personalized Tweets that Trump would send only to him, and his nine cats.He is locked in vigorous debate with his council of nine cats regarding the contents of the note that Trump left President Biden. The cats assert that Agent Orange was actually the Democrat's man all along and that he colluded with Zuckerberg to flush out all of the QAnon wackos and white supremacists nut jobs on social media, allowing the FBI to arrest and incarcerate them. SB is having a hard time believing his nine cats although they make a good case, seeing how no pardons were forthcoming for the insurrectionists. After all, did not Agent Orange say that he loved them? SB argues with the cats that he must be dreaming and that any moment Agent Orange will appear on Fox to say that it was all a big hoax and he is still president. The cats roll over meowing in laughter!
Beijing4987
01-21-21, 00:23
Let's ask a trusted news source, Sean "Spicey) Spicer to weigh in on size matters, or Sara Sanders, who changed her story about the FBI while under oath and the hot breath of the independent counsel. Spicer and his motorized lectern is applying for a spot in the White House press room.
That's the whole idea: make an example of Trump to send a message to anyone who would dare to presume that he could run for the Presidency, as if the USA was a democracy where the citizens could choose their leaders.Its not about sending a message to anyone who would dare to run for the presidency. It is about the fact that Trump is is a pile of putrid corruption whose sole purpose in running for President was enrichment and self gratification. If he had only a modicum of competence he would have been well on the way to making himself President for life.
That 'the US Constitution doesn't touch private companies' is the means whereby your civil liberties will be taken away from you. Pay attention.Correct, private companies can get away with abuses that democratically elected governments couldn't dream of. And I agree with you, that will be the downfall. Until we institute democratic principles within the workplace, the US will always be a plantation nation and far from free. Keeping the balance of power between labor and capital through the democratization of the workplace is essential especially with automation. Workers having a say in what is produced, what technology is used to produce it, and how it is distributed is paramount if we are ever to truly call ourselves a free society, which in essence it never has been.
Gabon's opposition says it was cheated of victory, after official results showed a turnout of 99.93% in President Ali Bongo's home region, with 95% of votes in his favour. Elizabeth Blunt has witnessed many elections across Africa, as both a BBC journalist and election observer and looks at six signs of possible election rigging.
1. Too many voters. Watch the turnout figures they can be a big giveaway. . . I once reported on an election in the Niger Delta where some areas had a turnout of more than 120%. "They're very healthy people round here, and very civic-minded," a local official assured me. But a turnout of more than 100%, in an area or an individual polling station, is a major red flag and a reason to cancel the result and re-run the election.
2. A high turnout in specific areas. Why would one particular area, or one individual polling station, have a 90% turnout, while most other areas register less than 70%? Something strange is almost certainly going on, especially if the high turnout is an area which favours one particular candidate or party over another.
3. Large numbers of invalid votes. Keep an eye on the number of votes excluded as invalid. Even in countries with low literacy rates this isn't normally above 5%. High numbers of invalid votes can mean that officials are disqualifying ballots for the slightest imperfection, even when the voter's intention is perfectly clear, in an attempt to depress votes for their opponents.
4. More votes than ballot papers issued. . . If there is a discrepancy, something is wrong. And if there are more papers in the boxes than were issued by the polling staff, it is highly likely that someone has been doing some "stuffing". (Except in the USA where vote counters are seen on video kicking out the authorized vote monitors then pulling out suitcases filled with ballots for off the books counting. . .)
5. Results that don't match. It is now standard practice to allow party agents, observers and sometimes even voters to watch the counting process and take photographs of the results sheet with their phones.
(Except in the USA where vote monitors are kicked out due to "water leaks" and the windows are covered with cardboard while the 'count" continues. . .
6. Delay in announcing results. Election commissions, particularly in Africa, can appear to take an inordinately long time to publish official results. . . Giving time to "massage" the results. . ."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37243190
Reading this article somehow reminds one of the sudden change after a delay at 4 in the morning then drastic "change" in the "winner" after the results were "massaged".
Seems weird that "the most popular politician in the USA" had virtually no turnout for his rallies or inauguration and had numerous election 'glitches" - need to stop trusting my eyes and believing the "truthtellers" in the mainstream media like Dan Rather. LOL A suspicious person might believe after reading the hallmarks of election fraud that the USA had an "African" style election. . .
What are you getting at? That Trump won because his inauguration had way more people than Biden's, right?
Lady does a great job with this Bill Withers classic, dedicated to our healthcare workers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4n_jDe0JsQ
What do you think those 80 million plus Biden voters are going to think and say?Half of these 'voters' have been dead for more than 50 years.
I think so. The evidence is clear that he invited and incited a riot at the capital to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power.
What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?
Funny how the US authorities can muster up tens of thousands of troops, police officers and secret service agents to lock down DC to protect Joe Biden at the inauguration, yet when the Burn Loot Murder and anti-fa mobs went on a 6 month riot spree last summer in cities all over the US the authorities looked the other way. These Democrat sponsored mobs murdered more than 25 people, injured many hundreds (many were left with life-changing injuries), caused over USD2 billion in damages and thousands of businesses were destroyed. When will the Democrats be held to account for their treachery?
Keeping the balance of power between labor and capital through the democratization of the workplace is essential especially with automation. Workers having a say in what is produced, what technology is used to produce it, and how it is distributed is paramount if we are ever to truly call ourselves a free society, which in essence it never has been.Way too far out leftist concept for our so-called liberals, who are in reality neoliberal totalitarians. As has been said, the political game in America is played between the forty yard lines.
Funny how the US authorities can muster up tens of thousands of troops, police officers and secret service agents to lock down DC to protect Joe Biden at the inauguration, yet when the Burn Loot Murder and anti-fa mobs went on a 6 month riot spree last summer in cities all over the US the authorities looked the other way. These Democrat sponsored mobs murdered more than 25 people, injured many hundreds (many were left with life-changing injuries), caused over USD2 billion in damages and thousands of businesses were destroyed. When will the Democrats be held to account for their treachery?Never, the Democrats will never take any responsibility for the violence perpetrated by their voters and supporters. Most liberals are brainwashed beyond repair by the liberal media. Just have a look on the liberals on this forum. Damaged goods.
Funny how the US authorities can muster up tens of thousands of troops, police officers and secret service agents to lock down DC to protect Joe Biden at the inauguration, yet when the Burn Loot Murder and anti-fa mobs went on a 6 month riot spree last summer in cities all over the US the authorities looked the other way. These Democrat sponsored mobs murdered more than 25 people, injured many hundreds (many were left with life-changing injuries), caused over USD2 billion in damages and thousands of businesses were destroyed. When will the Democrats be held to account for their treachery?Good points all-around, MDE. Thanks. It's useless to banter with the brainwashed dumbocrats. Watch how prices on everything skyrocket now on everything you fucking liberal. And crime soars. Trump did more good in office in four years than all the democrats did in history combined. Bring it you shit-for-brain liberal ding dongs.
ScatManDoo
01-21-21, 16:52
What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?The evidence presented at his impeachment trial.
I you ever saw some news coverage about the January 6th riot to disrupt the joint session of Congress.
You would see footage of Trump speaking before the crowd "Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down and I'll be there with you. We're going to walk down we're going to walk down. Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong".
Of course Trump knew that his Trump Goons would be too stupid to wait there, until he joined them in marching to the Capital. It was known that the Trump Goons watching the president's speech near the White House were livestreaming TrumpShit's speech to another group of Trump Goons already at the Capital, waiting for the battle call.
Funny how the US authorities can muster up tens of thousands of troops, police officers and secret service agents to lock down DC to protect Joe Biden at the inauguration, yet when the Burn Loot Murder and anti-fa mobs went on a 6 month riot spree last summer in cities all over the US the authorities looked the other way. These Democrat sponsored mobs murdered more than 25 people, injured many hundreds (many were left with life-changing injuries), caused over USD2 billion in damages and thousands of businesses were destroyed. When will the Democrats be held to account for their treachery?Also amazing was that only riots yesterday were in Portland, Seattle, Denver. More peaceful protests as CNN claims just BLM and Antifa burning and looting. Demand defund police, abolish ice, burn American flags.
Big winner yesterday was China, followed by Russia, followed by illegal citizens followed by asylum seekers.
Big losers yesterday American business, all American citizens more so for the lower income. More taxes and higher energy costs. Manufacturing will start going back to China and USA will start moving their jobs overseas again. Business in USA can't compete in world market with Obama regulations.
The first reward for China payoffs for the Biden family.
The only good thing is that people that voted for Biden will suffer the most but they aren't smart enough to figure it out as their suffering will all be blamed on Trump for the next 4 years as Obama did blaming Bush. Biden is smart. He knows that everything that he screws up he can blame on Trump and the media will agree and verify it.
Another thought is that Biden is a big supporter of BLM. Shouldn't he be impeached for this. No because he will go after the White supremist's who aren't protesting and looting.
It won't affect me but it is devastating for our kids and grand kids.
The Trump stain will be with the United States for a while.Trump Stain.
1. Standing up for Americans and American business. Supporting black neighborhoods and universities. Lowest unemployment in history for women, backs, Hispanics. Getting the vaccine less than a year when they said it would take 2-3 years. Lowering taxes for everyone. Killing the Iran deal and Paris Accord. Making USA energy self sufficient. Keeping our borders safe. Holding China accountable. Keeping USA from war.
Biden Plan: Screw USA businesses. Keep everybody poor and dependent in the government. Open our borders to all. Good or bad. Medicare and citizenship for illegals. Kill the USA energy business. Cancel free speech. Eliminate our history as we are all racists and need to be punished. Give 11,000,000 illegals citizenship so they can vote legally next time not like this year. Open borders will give democrats 20,000,000 new votes in 4 years. Doesn't matter if they take jobs away from USA citizens.
I guess not many of the guys on this site had business's and employees. Didn't have to deal with govt regulations and govt stupidity. They were teachers, professors, lawyers, government workers.
Biden first day will be biggest stain on USA for a very long time.
Trump Stain.
1. Standing up for Americans and American business. Supporting black neighborhoods and universities. Lowest unemployment in history for women, backs, hispanics. Getting the vaccine less than a year when they said it would take 2-3 years. Lowering taxes for everyone. Killing the Iran deal and Paris Accord. Making USA energy self suffecient. Keeping our borders safe. Holding China accountable. Keeping USA from war.
Biden Plan: Screw USA businesses. Keep everybody poor and dependent in the government. Open our borders to all. Good or bad. Medicare and citizenship for illegals. Kill the USA energy business. Cancel free speech. Eliminate our history as we are all racists and need to be punished. Give 11,000,000 illegals citizenship so they can vote legally next time not like this year. Open borders will give democrats 20,000,000 new votes in 4 years. Doesn't matter if they take jobs away from USA citizens.
I guess not many of the guys on this site had business's and employees. Didn't have to deal with govt regulations and govt stupidity. They were teachers, professors, lawyers, government workers.
BIDEN FIRST DAY WILL BE BIGGEST STAIN ON USA FOR A VERY LONG TIME.Trump's stain or Trump's Stalin? Or he would love to.
Also amazing was that only riots yesterday were in Portland, Seattle, Denver. More peaceful protests as CNN claims just BLM and Antifa burning and looting. Demand defund police, abolish ice, burn American flags.
Big winner yesterday was China, followed by Russia, followed by illegal citizens followed by asylum seekers.
Big losers yesterday American business, all American citizens more so for the lower income. More taxes and higher energy costs. Manufacturing will start going back to China and USA will start moving their jobs overseas again. Business in USA can't compete in world market with Obama regulations.
The first reward for China payoffs for the Biden family.
The only good thing is that people that voted for Biden will suffer the most but they aren't smart enough to figure it out as their suffering will all be blamed on Trump for the next 4 years as Obama did blaming Bush. Biden is smart. He knows that everything that he screws up he can blame on Trump and the media will agree and verify it.
Another thought is that Biden is a big supporter of BLM. Shouldn't he be impeached for this. No because he will go after the White supremist's who aren't protesting and looting.
It won't affect me but it is devastating for our kids and grand kids.Let me remind you Proud Boys that the scenes of violence and looting followed the gratuitous killing of citizens by people for whom Black Lives don't Matter.
What irreverence are you cutting-and-pasting now?
If you ever get yourself able to comprehend the meaning and original context of classical liberalism you might be able to get a grip on the basics of the current system: 'neoliberalism'. Of course that would be wishful thinking: the 'political science' you reference has been rebranded as 'political economy' decades ago, long since evidently you had a book open in front of you.You said "Liberal Fascism," which is terminology that has been used in the past by journalists trying to do history, Jonah Goldberg and more recently Dinesh the'Souza. The aim is to connect modern political liberals in the US with Fascism. Even still if you meant neo-liberalism then you still have no case. Pay attention.
The concept of "corporatism" in the Fascism of Mussolini, who coined the term, is distincty different from the role of large corporations in the US capitialist economy. In the former competition, market entry, and innovation weren't allowed. At the top were state run syndicates, with only one allowed in each industry. There's also a number of features of Fascism that aren't prominent in the ideas of most of today's free market advocates, that PVMonger linked you to. So yea, as usual, you are just swinging and missing. Posturing will never be a substitute for substance.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fascism-corporations-corporatism-dictionary/
https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism
P.S. If the term "political science" is now out of favor then you need to contact every university in the states who still uses it to name certain departments and award degrees. Out the window it went with "right and left" I suppose. You are hilarious. LOL.
As it became clear that Trump was not, in fact, going to suddenly appear and order the arrest of all the Democrats, QAnon believers began to wonder if they had been tricked.
As the rest of the country waited for Joe Biden to be inaugurated, believers in the QAnon conspiracy theory thought they were about to see something else: the long-awaited mass arrests of Biden and a host of other "deep-state" Democrats, followed by the restoration of the Trump presidency.
"Trump will walk out during the arrest and thank America for reelection," one QAnon supporter posted on a forum shortly before the inauguration. "This will be remembered as the greatest day since the-Day."
As Biden was sworn in, though, the mass arrests that QAnon believers call "The Storm," stubbornly refused to happen. Trump really did appear to have left office, rather than springing the sly trap as they had all hoped. . The Democrats really did have control of the White House and both chambers of Congress.
The tens of thousands of National Guard soldiers QAnon believers thought would help Trump retake Washington instead appeared to be there for a more obvious purpose: protecting the city from the same crazed QAnon believers who had violently attacked the Capitol two weeks earlier.
"I'm about to puke," one QAnon fan watching Biden take the oath of office wrote.
For more than three years, tens of thousands of QAnon believers have pinned their hopes for the future on a second Trump term. They've become convinced that the government is run by a cabal of satanic pedophile-cannibals, and that Trump is the only way to restore justice. Many of them, egged by promises that Trump's "Plan" included the eradication of diseases and personal debt, pinned their dreamson QAnon as well, alienating friends and family with their ideas.
Then, on Wednesday afternoon, the QAnon future vanished, presenting the ever-expanding conspiracy theory with its greatest challenge yet.
As Biden's inauguration became ever more certain on Wednesday, QAnon believers rapidly cycled through rationalizations. They claimed that Trump was stepping down as the head of the United States "corporation" an idea borrowed from fringe sovereign citizen legal theories to become the head of a restored republic. Some QAnon leaders claimed that Biden himself was in on the scheme, and would soon help Trump carry out the arrests.
As Biden finally took office, however, the mood changed quickly on QAnon forums. QAnon channels on messaging app Telegram filled with gifs of far-right mascot Pepe the Frog crying, as believers claimed they had been duped. Believers said they felt sick, or wanted to throw up.
"Trump fooled us," complained one Telegram commenter.
"All my family and co-workers think I'm crazy," wrote another.
"I feel stupid," wrote a third.
Even major QAnon boosters saw their faith in the bizarre conspiracy theory shaken on Monday. QAnon booster Roy Davis co-authored a bestselling book promoting QAnon under the alias "Captain Roy," even getting his sports car painted with a giant, blazing "Q" on the hood.
As Biden was sworn in, Davis initially told The Daily Beast he didn't want to comment until he was sure Biden was really president. But as Biden's new title became official, Davis said he was ready to move on from Q something his doctor has long urged him to do anyway.
"We misinterpreted it," Davis said. "Maybe we should have done something different."
Other top QAnon figures appeared to be backing away. As the former administrator of QAnon clues website 8 kun, Ron Watkins had control over who posted as the mysterious "Q" and has been accused of being Q himself. But on Wednesday, Watkins suggested that the QAnon fight was over.
"Please remember all the friends and happy memories we made together over the past few years," Watkins wrote in a Telegram post.
Still, there are many signs that QAnon and the kind of unreality world it promoted will persist.
As Trump's defeat became more certain, QAnon followers changed their claims, beginning to insist that the president's war against the "deep state" had only begun. As the shock of Biden's inauguration wore off on Wednesday, QAnon forum posters encouraged one another to "hold the line," claiming that they had merely misunderstood the QAnon clues.
The problem created by QAnon seems set to remain, as well. QAnon has been tied to three murders and a terrorist incident near the Hoover Dam, along with a series of other crimes. Biden's top intelligence chief has promised an analysis of the threat posed by the conspiracy theory.
Even as he distances himself from QAnon, for example, Davis still thinks "Q" really was a government whistleblower revealing the truth about the world.
"It wasn't some kid in a basement," Davis said.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/im-about-to-puke-qanon-in-chaos-as-biden-takes-officePerfectly, sums up the delusional, lunatic fringe that is the, QAnon, radical right-wing cabal.
Agent Orange pardoned Little Wayne and Kwame Kilpatrick among dozens of Black heroes. The white supremacist insurrectionists waited in vain for pardons that never materialized. They will spend the next several years trying not to drop the soap. What a bunch of suckers! LOL!
https://www.bet.com/news/national/2021/01/20/kwame-kilpatrick-lil-wayne-trump-presidential-pardons-commutations.html Soap...What? We don't need no stinking, soap! ...kkkk.
That goes double for the Republican lawmakers that are complicit in the insurrection and were trying to weasel a last minute pardon.
That 'the US Constitution doesn't touch private companies' is the means whereby your civil liberties will be taken away from you. Pay attention.Look who isn't paying attention. You cannot take something away from someone that they never had. The US Constitution doesn't afford anyone the right to state their views in a private publication. You can start your own though, or organize a public demonstration.
What sort of political and economic systems do you advocate? Exploitation, inequality, and unfairness have always existed, and likely always will. But yea, let's get to the nuts and bolts and hear your proposals.
If it involves defanging private corporations by removing them from the political sphere, then it's back to civil liberities as their financial contributions are protected by the first amendment. See Buckley v. Valeo (1976) and Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (2010).
Trump Stain.
1. Standing up for Americans and American business. Supporting black neighborhoods and universities. Lowest unemployment in history for women, backs, hispanics. Getting the vaccine less than a year when they said it would take 2-3 years. Lowering taxes for everyone. Killing the Iran deal and Paris Accord. Making USA energy self suffecient. Keeping our borders safe. Holding China accountable. Keeping USA from war. Next you'll be telling us, he cured cancer and brought world peace.
Biden Plan: Screw USA businesses. Keep everybody poor and dependent in the government. Open our borders to all. Good or bad. Medicare and citizenship for illegals. Kill the USA energy business. Cancel free speech. Eliminate our history as we are all racists and need to be punished. Give 11,000,000 illegals citizenship so they can vote legally next time not like this year. Open borders will give democrats 20,000,000 new votes in 4 years. Doesn't matter if they take jobs away from USA citizens.
I guess not many of the guys on this site had business's and employees. Didn't have to deal with govt regulations and govt stupidity. They were teachers, professors, lawyers, government workers.
BIDEN FIRST DAY WILL BE BIGGEST STAIN ON USA FOR A VERY LONG TIME.Does corporate welfare come to mind? Think about it now?
See attachment comparing Trump with Bush and Obama. . . As to cancer, don't think any politician can control medical issues, but they can control whether to attack other countries. Biden BTW was a big supporter in the Senate of Bush's attack on Iraq. In politics the choice is not usually between good and bad, but bad and worse. Trump was bad, but Hillary was worse. As to Biden opening up the borders to hordes of illegals carrying COVID and other diseases and costing thousands of union jobs due to the shutdown of the Keystone pipeline project and the border wall project, this is not the type of Democrat politician I would vote for. If the Democrat doesn't protect union jobs, then he is good for nothing. Trump was obviously better for union workers than Biden IMO after what Biden just did to thousands who just lost their jobs.
Next you'll be tell us, he cured cancer and brought world peace.
Does corporate welfare come to mind? Think about it now?
Way too far out leftist concept for our so-called liberals, who are in reality neoliberal totalitarians. As has been said, the political game in America is played between the forty yard lines.So what is the proposal? The Democratic Socialism of Crazy Bernie and Cornell West? Yet you stick up for Parler and the Capital mob, link to the site of a known Anti-Semite E Michael Jones, and have array an of alt right conspiracy theories going. Your confusion is contagious. LOL.
Soap...What? We don't need no stinking, soap! ...kkkk.
That goes double for the Republican lawmakers that are complicit in the insurrection and were trying to weasel a last minute pardon.Considering the riots and cop murders encouraged by liberal politicians and committed by their supporters I think you should take it easy with the unfounded accusations against your political opponents.
Let me remind you Proud Boys that the scenes of violence and looting followed the gratuitous killing of citizens by people for whom Black Lives don't Matter.Last time I checked more white people are killed by the police than blacks, but hey, don't let facts come in the way of you playing the race card.
Good points all-around, MDE. Thanks. It's useless to banter with the brainwashed dumbocrats. Watch how prices on everything skyrocket now on everything you fucking liberal. And crime soars. Trump did more good in office in four years than all the democrats did in history combined. Bring it you shit-for-brain liberal ding dongs."The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" The market has actually been doing quite well the last two and one half months since it has been known that Biden would be president. Markets like stability, and are glad to see the Covid denialism, childish tantrums, and constant lies of a traitorous wannabe autocrat go. Bring a legitimate conservative candidate next time and we'll listen.
Anyone old enough (and not yet senescent, paulie) recollects how in the late 60's, it was the Left that entrenched power had to suppress in order to maintain their hegemony. Fast forward to now, and it's the Right that is being targeted. It has everything to do with the suppression of Free Speech..It doesn't matter how old you are or what you try to insult your way out of. Calls to hang the vice-president and violently stop an election certification at the US Capital weren't protected speech. And any calls to violence are risky, and no media entity should feel compelled to host it, by law or any other reason. Same also applies to stolen election allegations when no evidence was ever presented for it. So yea, Parler, E. Michael Jones, you need to find some new populist soapboxes to stand on, if you want to be taken seriously.
P.S. This was already stated by the way, but as usual you lacked the balls to quote the material you responded to, in order to clear the way to repeat the same fallacy.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Argument-by-Repetition
ScatManDoo
01-21-21, 22:48
Obama's administration successfully contained a virus that had the potential to be a global pandemic.
Primarily most of what the Trump Administration did was lie hundreds of times claiming to have contained their pandemic.
See attachment comparing Trump with Bush and Obama. . . As to cancer, don't think any politician can control medical issues, but they can control whether to attack other countries. Biden BTW was a big supporter in the Senate of Bush's attack on Iraq. In politics the choice is not usually between good and bad, but bad and worse. Trump was bad, but Hillary was worse. Hillary probably would have successfully contained the pandemic. The playbook on fighting pandemics was above Trump's reading level, so he just ignored it.
Trump damaged the economy. His mismanagement of the pandemic has caused a loss of 3 million American jobs during the carnage administration.
Joe and Kamala will get back the jobs Trump lost. 400,000 new jobs in clean air technologies alone.
Beijing4987
01-21-21, 23:09
Let's take on one issue at a time. Of course some influence others. Start with the invasion of the north and South American continents in 1492, culminating in the genocide of native peoples and theft of their lands. "Manifest Destiny" "Trail of Tears" any of heard those terms. (James) "Monroe Doctrine" "Remember the Maine" & "Alamo" too, USA's training South American soldiers (Fort Benning, named for Confederate General / slave holder) in "counter insurgency" tactics as part of its dirty little wars? Coup in Chile? Henry "Make the economy scream" Kissinger. Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas when Mina, AR was the staging point for weapons sent to the Contras, former members and supporters of the Somoza regime, using terror trying the retake Nicaragua from Daniel Ortega, the liberator now an oppressor of his own opposition. So many countries, so many insurgencies. The immigrant gang members sent to Honduras are back now. After two hurricanes and no help, it's no wonder a caravan is heading to "El Norte" Carlson says they will make USA dirtier and dangerous. They may work hard, send their children to schools and resist the next wave as Nimby's.
ScatManDoo
01-21-21, 23:17
Considering the riots and cop murders encouraged by liberal politicians and committed by their supporters I think you should take it easy with the unfounded accusations against your political opponents.Although some have drawn misguided parallels between the two, there is an important distinction here: Violence that is intended to spread democracy, end injustice and encourage fairness in the application of the rule of law has nothing in common with the wanton, anti-democratic riots of Jan. 6, fueled by QAnon and other conspiracy theories that tell the story of an election stolen by a Satan-worshipping cabal.
We can't let peaceful protesters be likened to criminals.
Funny how the US authorities can muster up tens of thousands of troops, police officers and secret service agents to lock down DC to protect Joe Biden at the inauguration, yet when the Burn Loot Murder and anti-fa mobs went on a 6 month riot spree last summer in cities all over the US the authorities looked the other way.Yea, "funny," Portland activity was all on Trump's watch. Why didn't he do what you think he should have done? And Antifa doesn't equate with the Democratic Party. It's not a single organization, but typically involves relatively small groups of people that follow Anarchism, an ideology very different from that of your typical Democrat. Look it up. Plus, if you have any ancestors that fought in World War II, well then they were "antifa," just an aside.
These Democrat sponsored mobs murdered more than 25 people, injured many hundreds (many were left with life-changing injuries), caused over USD2 billion in damages and thousands of businesses were destroyed. When will the Democrats be held to account for their treachery?"Democrats" did no such thing. See above. As to being "held to account" there's been nearly 14,000 arrests in Portland alone. As to DC, well, uh, a band of Trumpite, "Stop the Steal" goons violently ransacked the Capital and promised to return. We had this thing called a presidential inauguration planned where the incoming president and many elected officials planned to attend. So yea, security was important unless you prefer chaos and lose of our officials and government stability. Your comparison is ridiculous. Also, while I'm here, cite your source for the deaths and injuries in Portland. It may be so or partly so, but I can find nothing parallel to it in Google.
Anyway, Whataboutism will be the cry of the right for some time. I mean WOW, a Trumpist, murderous mob crashes a vote certification at the Capital with many intent on murdering the vice president. No surprise you want to talk about something else, but there of course is no comparison.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/whataboutism
That said, one and all, I'm outtahere for one month, on vacation, and I don't do politics when focused solely on having fun. The rest of you sensible folks hold down the fort, unravel the lies and fake spins as you wish, but most of all relish in the fact that we won the election, and "by a lot. " Wink.
P.S. Regarding this post that I'm replying to and others, what we need more than anything is an informed citizenry. When we have so many people running around believing and spreading lies, and lacking the ability to make valid deductions and comparisons, we have real problems. We could start with improving public education in the US. So when a liar like Lin Wood, Hannity, Alex Jones, etc. Opens their mouth one is skeptical and investigates. For example, the other day Alex made a statement about CDC numbers that the sheeple will accept without question. But one quick look at the source and the claim was instantly refuted. That is one of a slew of examples.
So what is the proposal? The Democratic Socialism of Crazy Bernie and Cornell West? Yet you stick up for Parler and the Capital mob, link to the site of a known Anti-Semite E Michael Jones, and have array an of alt right conspiracy theories going. Your confusion is contagious. LOL.Your inability to comprehend is Congenital? Dude, you are stuck in some manichean place where it is either liberal / conservative or dem / repub. The US political duopoly has caught you in its matrix: right where they want you. For people who've supposedly experienced other countries and cultures, haven't you learned a thing overseas other than where to find bar girls and how much they charge to let you touch them?
(How would you know what and who E. M. Jones is since you never heard of before I referenced him for you.).
The market has actually been doing quite well the last two and one half months since it has been known that Biden would be president. Markets like stability, and are glad to see the Covid denialism, childish tantrums, and constant lies.Markets like the Fed printing 120 billion dollars, err, temporarily injectioning liquidity a month. LOL. That'll buy some price 'stability'. Looking forward to the Biden administration's response to the inflation later this year. At least Trump dodged that, and gives the Dems a parting gift as well.
Half of these 'voters' have been dead for more than 50 years.Free speech yes, but feasting on lies. Lies get us nowhere.
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54874120
Correct, private companies can get away with abuses that democratically elected governments couldn't dream of. And I agree with you, that will be the downfall. Until we institute democratic principles within the workplace, the US will always be a plantation nation and far from free. Keeping the balance of power between labor and capital through the democratization of the workplace is essential especially with automation. Workers having a say in what is produced, what technology is used to produce it, and how it is distributed is paramount if we are ever to truly call ourselves a free society, which in essence it never has been.Most of the world would give a limb to live in this "plantation economy," but bring on the Socialism, sky high taxes to pay for freebies while de-incentivizing hard work. And the more freeloaders you have the more everyone else is dragged down. That's some of the problem at the moment in the US with all the easy access unemployment benefits during Covid. And the more freeloaders you have the more everyone else is dragged down. Without greed, without the big "evil" companies that started small and with innovation, America wouldn't be the prosperous country that it is, while laying claims to so many of the world most significant inventions. Work hard and work smart, save more and indulge less, and your chances of success here are very high.
Most of the world would give a limb to live in this "plantation economy. " Socialism has typically been a disaster, though there has been successes in Scandinavia, due largely to the strong work ethic of the Nordic people. But many with great success run to evade the taxes. And with the more immigrants they are taking in, of whom many may not possess the same work ethic, what will the future hold?
And to changing employment landscapes, people need to adapt, learn new skills. But then we are back to personal responsibility, which is much harder than shaking one's finger at Facebook and Amazon. There BTW has been a lengthy discussion about this in the "Rants" thread under the FKK section in the Europe section.
P.S. This may sound harsh, but here goes. The fact that so many Americans today are believing ridiculous lies doesn't speak well to the intelligence of many of our citizens. Do you want them creating technology and deciding how the business is run? Or rather a couple of greedy college kids in a Harvard dorm room. You can give free college to the former, but you'll have to dumb down the work and they may drop out anyway. These though should have some kind of living and some entertainment, if they are able and willing to work, and there are plenty of opportunities in the USA.
Some have wanted to make excuses for the Capital rioters, but all we know of had a job or a business, or was leeching off a wife who did. So Socialism is a tough sell in the states, thus the Crazy Bernies and AOCs haven't seen success at the national level.
ScatManDoo
01-22-21, 01:30
Last time I checked more white people are killed by the police than blacks, but hey, don't let facts come in the way of you playing the race card.You attempt to use facts to mislead.
According to Mapping Police Violence, officers have killed 1,066 people in 2020 more than 28 percent of them Black, despite Black people making up only 12 percent of the USA Population.
So on a per-capita basis, blacks are more than twice as likely to be killed by cops.
Then have it excused by ShooBree due to his Stupid Swede prejudice.
"Agent Orange", says "NO SOUP FOR YOU..." He reportedly DID NOT grant pardons to any Republican lawmakers involved in the "Stop the Steal" rally that preceded the deadly Capitol insurrection.
"Republican lawmakers involved in the rally that preceded the Capitol insurrection reportedly asked Trump for preemptive pardons".
https://news.yahoo.com/republican-lawmakers-involved-rally-preceded-072156635.html
Soap...What? We don't need no stinking, soap! ...kkkk.
That goes double for the Republican lawmakers that are complicit in the insurrection and were trying to weasel a last minute pardon.
Of course the democratic primaries were not rigged to deny Bernie Sanders the nomination. It is impossible to rig an election.Sarcasm noted, and yea, of course it's all "rigged" in your tinfoil hat world. Crazy Bernie has twice had his chance to make his case to the voters but failed. Bring a failed philosophy and expect failure. Someone has to pay for all the free lunch he wants to hand out, and working tax payers aren't on with the idea.
Democratic Congresswoman Mikie Sherrill, revealed Tuesday that several Republican members gave “reconnaissance” tours to would-be rioters on the eve of the insurrection..
Several members of congress (both Dems. And Repl.), feared for their lives and thought they'd be turned over to the white supremacist riot / mob insurrectionists, by their fellow congress QAnon and Republicans members sympathizers.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/13/aoc-capitol-mob-republicans-death/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/watch-aoc-thought-she-d-be-killed-feared-white-supremacist-members-of-congress-would-turn-her-over-to-trump-rioters/ar-BB1cIJHj
Encyclopedia Britannica? What is this: your homework assignment to get your 7th grade equivalency?.And what does it say about you when a basic, though highly accurate source is all it takes to refute your moronic, oxymoronic "Liberal Fascism" notion? Not to mention that you have violated Godwin's Law and automatically lose, shame to shame. LOL.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Godwin%27s%20Law
Beijing4987
01-22-21, 02:36
Get out of jail cards for the low level republican and other rioters would have pushed Moscow Mitch really over the edge, enough to trigger an immediate impeachment trial on the single, promoting insurrection charge. Mitch knows how to count to 17 and how to twist arms out of sockets. Now magnanimously suggested a trial delay until next month, giving Fat Nixon time to scarf up enough to pay lawyers upfront, although Satan has offered Alan Dershowitz 71 virgins. Will the Supremes chime in on this toxic mess? Stay tuned. Fox News May grant Judge Judy a sabbatical to join the team. The court jesters Carlson & Hannity remain on duty to rouse the troops to defend the Alamo.
And what does it say about you when a basic, though highly accurate source is all it takes to refute your moronic, oxymoronic "Liberal Fascism" notion? Not to mention that you have violated Godwin's Law and automatically lose, shame to shame. LOL.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Godwin%27s%20LawEncyclopedia Britannica. I do confess to not being able to slog through the entire thing, even at one paragraph. Explaining fascism in one paragraph, and then illustrating with a gurning El Duce. The Godwin honor's all yours. You must have aced your way through middle school.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism
After his bizarre inaugural behind fences and 20,000 military troops, Biden hobbled to the Oval Officer were he signed several executive orders including the end of construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline and the end of construction of the Trump border wall.
"Mark McManus, General President of the United Association of Union Plumbers and Pipefitters: "In revoking this permit, the Biden Administration has chosen to listen to the voices of fringe activists instead of union members and the American consumer on Day 1. Let me be very clear: When built with union labor by the men and women of the United Association, pipelines like Keystone XL remain the safest and most efficient modes of energy transportation in the world. Sadly, the Biden Administration has now put thousands of union workers out of work. For the average American family, it means energy costs will go up and communities will no longer see the local investments that come with pipeline construction".
Canceling the Keystone Pipeline costs over 11,000 construction jobs and 42,100 jobs throughout the US during the construction process according to the US State Department. Canceling the Trump border wall will cost 10,000 jobs.
With the stroke of a pen, Biden has put 11,000 jobs and over $1.6 billion in wages on the chopping block. The kicker, the pipeline's developer has pledged that the project would have zero carbon emissions.
Indeed, union leaders are already calling out Biden for the loss of good-paying union jobs.
If that doesn't bother you, gas prices going up to fill your tank due to the cancellation of cheap Canadian oil to refineries should get your attention. It now must be shipped by rail with Warren Buffett getting paid off for his Biden campaign contribution $ out of your wallet.
Obama's administration successfully contained a virus that had the potential to be a global pandemic.
Primarily most of what the Trump Administration did was lie hundreds of times claiming to have contained their pandemic.
Hillary probably would have successfully contained the pandemic. The playbook on fighting pandemics was above Trump's reading level, so he just ignored it.
Trump damaged the economy. His mismanagement of the pandemic has caused a loss of 3 million American jobs during the carnage administration.
Joe and Kamala will get back the jobs Trump lost. 400,000 new jobs in clean air technologies alone.
"The reason President-elect Biden has to do this is that he's just so incredibly popular," said Don Lemon on CNN...
Are you QAnon or Trump brainwashed or what's's hapen with so many Americans? The howl world is happy that the biggest lier and Mafia in history is disapearing and there is hope for a united America. With Trump Clan in Jail for 20 years. And you ask stupid fake question about Don Lemon? - People like you should know, why DC looked like a war zone!
You attempt to use facts to mislead.
According to Mapping Police Violence, officers have killed 1,066 people in 2020 more than 28 percent of them Black, despite Black people making up only 12 percent of the USA Population.
So on a per-capita basis, blacks are more than twice as likely to be killed by cops.
Then have it excused by ShooBree due to his Stupid Swede prejudice.https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/who-kills-police-officers-315701%3Famp%3D1
"In 2013,44 percent of cop killers were white, 37 percent were black and 11 percent were Hispanic."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States
"According to the FBI, African Americans accounted for 52.4% of all homicide offenders in 2018, with Whites 43.1% and "Other"/ Unknown 4. 4%. Of these, 15.4% were Hispanic or Latino. The per-capita offending rate for African Americans was roughly six times higher than Whites".
Can you connect the dots now or do I have to do it for you? You're so incredibly stupid and ignorant.
Although some have drawn misguided parallels between the two, there is an important distinction here: Violence that is intended to spread democracy, end injustice and encourage fairness in the application of the rule of law has nothing in common with the wanton, anti-democratic riots of Jan. 6, fueled by QAnon and other conspiracy theories that tell the story of an election stolen by a Satan-worshipping cabal.
We can't let peaceful protesters be likened to criminals.So you're a supporter of political violence as long as the perpetrators have the same political views as you?
Yikes, that's messed up.
The BLM terrorists are not peaceful, they are attacking and terrorizing the society to enforce their radical views.
You've revealed yourself to be a true extremists who will not condemn political violence and terrorism.
BIDEN FIRST DAY WILL BE BIGGEST STAIN ON USA FOR A VERY LONG TIME.Yet another disgruntled Chicken Little that doesn't want to talk about the historic horrors committed at our Capital by Trump cultists. American will never forget it. But take heart, the midterms are in two years. Bring us some good candidates. I have no problem with center and center right Repubs, and they can very possibly earn my vote. But this Trump debacle had to end.
Yiiipppppeee that's it. Vacation starts now. See you guys in a month when I resume my political posting. Wish me safe travels.
You said "Liberal Fascism," which is terminology that has been used in the past by journalists trying to do history, Jonah Goldberg and more recently Dinesh the'Souza. The aim is to connect modern political liberals .Said "Liberal Fascism"? Where?
Trump Stain.
1. Standing up for Americans and American business. Supporting black neighborhoods and universities. Lowest unemployment in history for women, backs, hispanics. Getting the vaccine less than a year when they said it would take 2-3 years. Lowering taxes for everyone. Killing the Iran deal and Paris Accord. Making USA energy self suffecient. Keeping our borders safe. Holding China accountable. Keeping USA from war.
Biden Plan: Screw USA businesses. Keep everybody poor and dependent in the government. Open our borders to all. Good or bad. Medicare and citizenship for illegals. Kill the USA energy business. Cancel free speech. Eliminate our history as we are all racists and need to be punished. Give 11,000,000 illegals citizenship so they can vote legally next time not like this year. Open borders will give democrats 20,000,000 new votes in 4 years. Doesn't matter if they take jobs away from USA citizens..Thank you Canada. You are a good and honest neighbor.
Last time I checked more white people are killed by the police than blacks, but hey, don't let facts come in the way of you playing the race card.The last time I checked, blacks made up about 13.4% of the population while whites made up about 60.1%. Why not produce your proof adjusted on a "per capita" basis.
I'll wait.
You attempt to use facts to mislead.
According to Mapping Police Violence, officers have killed 1,066 people in 2020 more than 28 percent of them Black, despite Black people making up only 12 percent of the USA Population.
So on a per-capita basis, blacks are more than twice as likely to be killed by cops.
Then have it excused by ShooBree due to his Stupid Swede prejudice.Maybe it is because 28% of the blacks commit more crimes than than the 72% whites. USA statistics show the 28% of the blacks murder over 50% of total murders. The reason is obvious to 4th grader that you are more likely to get shot by a cop if you are actually doing a crime. White people at home sleeping at night are less likely to be killed by a cop than a black guy at 2:00 AM breaking into a business. Does it not make sense to the liberals that the people committing the crimes are more likely to be arrested or shot by the police than the people who are at work or sleeping?
Arrests by offense by race.
Offenses All races White black.
Murder and and. 11,060 5,070 5,660.
Originally Posted by Mdemde: "What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?
The evidence presented at his impeachment trial.
I you ever saw some news coverage about the January 6th riot to disrupt the joint session of Congress.
You would see footage of Trump speaking before the crowd "Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down and I'll be there with you. We're going to walk down we're going to walk down. Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong".
Of course Trump knew that his Trump Goons would be too stupid to wait there, until he joined them in marching to the Capital. It was known that the Trump Goons watching the president's speech near the White House were livestreaming TrumpShit's speech to another group of Trump Goons already at the Capital, waiting for the battle call.You really call that evidence of incitement to riot? Is that really the best you have?
Next you'll be telling us, he (Trump) cured cancer and brought world peace.If Trump did find a cure for cancer, brought world peace, and ended poverty, the Democrats would still find a way to criticise him for it.
If Trump found a cure for cancer the Democrats would blame him for destroying the jobs of tens of thousands of doctors and medical researchers.
If he brought world peace and all the armies in the world were disbanded then he would be blamed for destroying the jobs of millions of soldiers and destroying the jobs of the millions who work for the weapons manufacturers.
If he ended world poverty he would be blamed for destroying the jobs of hundreds of thousands of Aid workers. LOL.
Start with the invasion of the north and South American continents in 1492, culminating in the genocide of native peoples and theft of their lands.
Invasion you say? Genocide? Theft?
Here's an opinion piece that was published online about 4 months ago (link below) that challenges those outrageous, scurrilous and preposterous claims;.
The myth of the 'stolen country'.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-myth-of-the-stolen-country
Although some have drawn misguided parallels between the two, there is an important distinction here: Violence that is intended to spread democracy, end injustice and encourage fairness in the application of the rule of law has nothing in common with the wanton, anti-democratic riots of Jan. 6, fueled by QAnon and other conspiracy theories that tell the story of an election stolen by a Satan-worshipping cabal.
We can't let peaceful protesters be likened to criminals.Peaceful protestors? Do you mean the ones who went on a 6 month rampage last summer in dozens of cities across the US and murdered more than 25 people, injured many hundreds (many were left with life-changing injuries), caused over USD2 billion in damages and destroyed thousands of businesses? Those protestors?
Originally Posted by Mdemde: "Half of these 'voters' have been dead for more than 50 years. ".
Free speech yes, but feasting on lies. Lies get us nowhere.
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54874120Don't take my word for it, even Joe Biden, about a month before the election, bragged about the upcoming steal;.
"Democratic Presidential Nominee Joe Biden recently bragged that Democrats have created the "most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. ".
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/24/joe-biden-says-democrats-created-the-most-extensive-and-inclusive-voter-fraud-organization-in-american-history/
Originally Posted by Mdemde: "Half of these 'voters' have been dead for more than 50 years. ".
Don't take my word for it, even Joe Biden, about a month before the election, bragged about the upcoming steal;.
"Democratic Presidential Nominee Joe Biden recently bragged that Democrats have created the "most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. ".
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/24/joe-biden-says-democrats-created-the-most-extensive-and-inclusive-voter-fraud-organization-in-american-history/What Biden obviously meant was an an organization to DETECT voter fraud. People normally don't brag about illegal things, just the mentally retard DTrump. You have no idea how ridiculous you look.
Also, while I'm here, cite your source for the deaths and injuries in PortlandIn my post yesterday I did not give any figures for deaths and injuries in Portland, I gave overall figures for deaths and injuries across the whole of the US;.
This is what I wrote;.
"when the Burn Loot Murder and anti-fa mobs went on a 6 month riot spree last summer in cities all over the US the authorities looked the other way. These Democrat sponsored mobs murdered more than 25 people, injured many hundreds (many were left with life-changing injuries), caused over USD2 billion in damages and thousands of businesses were destroyed. ".
Here's a link to a news website that reported that there were at least 30 deaths across the US in the riots of last summer;.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/19/death-toll-rises-to-an-estimated-30-victims-since-mostly-peaceful-protests-began/
ScatManDoo
01-22-21, 17:53
Peaceful protestors? Do you mean the ones who went on a 6 month rampage last summer in dozens of cities across the US and murdered more than 25 people, injured many hundreds (many were left with life-changing injuries), caused over USD2 billion in damages and destroyed thousands of businesses? Those protestors?When you peacefully protest at the White House you get tear gassed for breathing.
At least that used to be the case until voters drove away the criminals that occupied the White House.
ScatManDoo
01-22-21, 18:05
In my post yesterday I did not give any figures for deaths and injuries in Portland, I gave overall figures for deaths and injuries across the whole of the US;.
This is what I wrote;.
"when the Burn Loot Murder and anti-fa mobs went on a 6 month riot spree last summer in cities all over the US the authorities looked the other way. These Democrat sponsored mobs murdered more than 25 people, injured many hundreds (many were left with life-changing injuries), caused over USD2 billion in damages and thousands of businesses were destroyed. ".
Here's a link to a news website that reported that there were at least 30 deaths across the US in the riots of last summer;.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/19/death-toll-rises-to-an-estimated-30-victims-since-mostly-peaceful-protests-began/Why not say they were Republican sponsord mobs. That would be just as truthful as writing Democrat sponsored mob.
Well, unless you are talking about wild mobs storming the Capital shouting "Treason" at the top of their lungs.
Those undoubtedly will be Republican gleeful criminal protestors. Hahahaha.
Lub your new VP.
What Biden obviously meant was an an organization to DETECT voter fraud. People normally don't brag about illegal things, just the mentally retard DTrump. You have no idea how ridiculous you look."What Biden obviously meant" That should be fun if he ever has to give a decision on whether or not to launch a nuclear strike LOL!
"People normally don't brag about illegal things".
Biden isn't a normal person. He's a clown. Even Barack Obama warned the Democrats about Biden when he told them "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up. ".
https://www.dailywire.com/news/obama-on-biden-running-for-office-dont-underestimate-joes-ability-to-fk-things-up-report-claims
Beijing4987
01-22-21, 19:40
Which is it? Get your message straight, trolls. Biden has not rambled on about injecting bleach or disinfecting light into the body. He's warning about an upcoming surge in deaths and difficult times that must be overcome, not "it (an infectious didease) will be gone suddenly, POOF. Let's see which predictions come true. An be sure to watch "The Simpsons" for clues.
ScatManDoo
01-22-21, 20:07
Originally Posted by Mdemde: "What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?
You really call that evidence of incitement to riot? Is that really the best you have?Do you really think that TrumpShit did not know the size and make-up of of his January 6th Capital Hill Goon Squads?
Remember, they make up mutual admiration objects.
Think about what real-time info would have been available to TrumpShit. TrumpShit knew the comparative size of Those Guarding the capital and the size of His Goon Squad.
Think for the first time in your life.
ScatManDoo
01-22-21, 20:15
Which is it? Get your message straight, trolls. Biden has not rambled on about injecting bleach or disinfecting light into the body.Maybe Trump has some prior gape-ing experience where he got juice from disinfecting light frequencies allowed up his ass.
He's had enough money, enough years, for these types of experiences.
Hahahaha.
"What Biden obviously meant" That should be fun if he ever has to give a decision on whether or not to launch a nuclear strike LOL!
"People normally don't brag about illegal things".
Biden isn't a normal person. He's a clown. Even Barack Obama warned the Democrats about Biden when he told them "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up. ".
https://www.dailywire.com/news/obama-on-biden-running-for-office-dont-underestimate-joes-ability-to-fk-things-up-report-claimsEven Dr. Fauci says it is a somewhat liberating feeling not to have the retard breathing on his neck anymore.
ScatManDoo
01-22-21, 20:37
"What Biden obviously meant" That should be fun if he ever has to give a decision on whether or not to launch a nuclear strike LOL!Mdemde,
Let me give you a little civics lesson.
Joe Biden has already been making these decisions.
You seem to be not quite knowledgeable, or well, at lest ready yet, to discuss politics with adults.
Biden went on video admitting he extorted the firing of an prosecutor investigating corruption in Ukraine: In 2016, Ukraine's top anti-corruption prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, had an active and ongoing investigation into Burisma and its owner, Mykola Zlochevsky. At the time, Hunter Biden continued to serve on Burisma's board of directors. According to news reports, then Vice-President Biden "threatened to withhold $1 billion in United States loan guarantees if Ukraine's leaders did not dismiss prosecutor Shokin. " After that, Ukraine's Parliament fired Shokin.
Biden would have to be sure that his Biden supporters were ignorant peasants to stupid to understand what was going on to admit what he did on video repeatedly. . . Watch Joe Biden Brag About Bribing Ukraine To Fire The Prosecutor Investigating His Son's Company. . . Google: watch-joe-biden-brag-about-bribing-ukraine-to-fire-the-prosecutor-investigating-his-sons-company /.
Stop putting words in Biden's mouth. He is quite open about what he was doing. . . Being an enabler of admitted fraud and corruption makes you look like a useful idiot or a tool.
What Biden obviously meant was an an organization to DETECT voter fraud. People normally don't brag about illegal things, just the mentally retard DTrump. You have no idea how ridiculous you look.
Biden went on video admitting he extorted the firing of an prosecutor investigating corruption in Ukraine: In 2016, Ukraine's top anti-corruption prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, had an active and ongoing investigation into Burisma and its owner, Mykola Zlochevsky. At the time, Hunter Biden continued to serve on Burisma's board of directors. According to news reports, then Vice-President Biden "threatened to withhold $1 billion in United States loan guarantees if Ukraine's leaders did not dismiss prosecutor Shokin. " After that, Ukraine's Parliament fired Shokin.
Biden would have to be sure that his Biden supporters were ignorant peasants to stupid to understand what was going on to admit what he did on video repeatedly. . . Watch Joe Biden Brag About Bribing Ukraine To Fire The Prosecutor Investigating His Son's Company. . . Google: watch-joe-biden-brag-about-bribing-ukraine-to-fire-the-prosecutor-investigating-his-sons-company /.
Stop putting words in Biden's mouth. He is quite open about what he was doing. . . Being an enabler of admitted fraud and corruption makes you look like a useful idiot or a tool.Why do tard supporters insist on hiding behind Joe Biden? To protect the retard? Don't waste you time. He will have an army of prosecutors and judges eager to put him behind bars for his wrongdoings.
What Biden obviously meant was an an organization to DETECT voter fraud. People normally don't brag about illegal things, just the mentally retard DTrump. You have no idea how ridiculous you look.Yes, of course that is what Biden not only meant but what he actually said and what he was talking about, in context.
Whenever you see a video clip of Biden saying something that is cut away from almost on the syllable of him supposedly saying something "incriminating", you can be pretty sure the editors of that video do not want you to see the next words (or the previous ones) that clarify the context and meaning of what he is talking about, as is the normal way we all generally speak.
When Trump's various Cabinet members, Administration officials, top advisors and spokesmen were summoned to appear in a Criminal Court Building, I wonder if the entertainers on Fox News Channel tried to convince their viewers that is a building with a courtroom in it that has committed crimes?
Biden went on video admitting he extorted the firing of an prosecutor investigating corruption in Ukraine: In 2016, Ukraine's top anti-corruption prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, had an active and ongoing investigation into Burisma and its owner, Mykola Zlochevsky. At the time, Hunter Biden continued to serve on Burisma's board of directors. According to news reports, then Vice-President Biden "threatened to withhold $1 billion in United States loan guarantees if Ukraine's leaders did not dismiss prosecutor Shokin. " After that, Ukraine's Parliament fired Shokin.
Biden would have to be sure that his Biden supporters were ignorant peasants to stupid to understand what was going on to admit what he did on video repeatedly. . . Watch Joe Biden Brag About Bribing Ukraine To Fire The Prosecutor Investigating His Son's Company. . . Google: watch-joe-biden-brag-about-bribing-ukraine-to-fire-the-prosecutor-investigating-his-sons-company /.
Stop putting words in Biden's mouth. He is quite open about what he was doing. . . Being an enabler of admitted fraud and corruption makes you look like a useful idiot or a tool.Biden pressured? Ukraine to fire Shokin because he was not prosecuting anyone. Shokin did not have an active investigation into Burisma. Even the idiot republican senator Ron Johnson along with othe republican senators wrote a letter supporting Bidens actions. Compare that to Trump holding up approved funds for Ukrainian defence against Russia and making the delivery of the funds conditional on an an announcement of an investigation into Hunter Biden! The real villain in all of this is your hero Trump. Well Trump will be facing criminal and civil actions against him for about 20 years after he dies!
The real crime of Trumps though has been he disregard of the threat of the Corona virus. We now no why! For the past 12 months revenues across Trumps businesses were down $120 m. He put trying to get people into his hotels above the health and safety of the nation!
I want to unite the country. LOUD CACKLE. Seriously, is anyone dumb enough to believe that shit about uniting the country?!
It's time to come clean. We stole the presidency fair and square. I even warned the Republicans before the election that we had the "most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics" but the dumb fucks still went out to vote for Trump! Losers, all 74 million of them. As someone else once said, "it's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes".
For 4 years, 5 if we include the lead up to the 2016 election, we called Trump voters irredeemable, deplorable, nazis, white supremacists, racists, fascists, rapists, child molesters, uneducated, sexist, islamophobes, misogynists and a host of other derogatory terms. But we hold the moral high ground so are entitled to debase our enemies.
Yes, Barack Obama spied on Trump. Yes, we told you baseless lies about Trump, we told you he was a Russian asset, that he was in Putin's pocket. We spent the last 5 years demonising and vilifying Trump, we fantasised about killing him. What about it? Republicans are our enemies, not our political opponents. We need to crush and destroy them. And we will succeed.
We are preparing a list of names of all those conservatives who supported Trump or who worked for Trump and we will purge them. We control social media and the MSM. Heck, they even covered up my son Hunter's illegal business dealings for me! Now we need you to just sit back while we be* slap you everyday, strip you of your freedoms of speech, de-platform you, demonetise you, ban you from all social media networks, confiscate all your legally owned firearms, and force you to pay for all entitlements for anyone that comes through our southern border.
If you ain't Black you are smart enough to, I mean you ain't smart enough, don't vote for White kids errrrm all men are created Black. Errr no White, no, I mean equal to my hairy legs. I'm Irish, kids like to touch my white hairy legs, errrrrm, truths are evident, no facts are truths. Hey you know what I mean. Cmon man.
I note that the fencing in DC is still up. Is it to keep Joe from wandering off?
I want to unite the country. LOUD CACKLE. Seriously, is anyone dumb enough to believe that shit about uniting the country?!
It's time to come clean. We stole the presidency fair and square. I even warned the Republicans before the election that we had the "most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics" but the dumb fucks still went out to vote for Trump! Losers, all 74 million of them. As someone else once said, "it's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes".
For 4 years, 5 if we include the lead up to the 2016 election, we called Trump voters irredeemable, deplorable, nazis, white supremacists, racists, fascists, rapists, child molesters, uneducated, sexist, islamophobes, misogynists and a host of other derogatory terms. But we hold the moral high ground so are entitled to debase our enemies.
Yes, Barack Obama spied on Trump. Yes, we told you baseless lies about Trump, we told you he was a Russian asset, that he was in Putin's pocket. We spent the last 5 years demonising and vilifying Trump, we fantasised about killing him. What about it? Republicans are our enemies, not our political opponents. We need to crush and destroy them. And we will succeed.
We are preparing a list of names of all those conservatives who supported Trump or who worked for Trump and we will purge them. We control social media and the MSM. Heck, they even covered up my son Hunter's illegal business dealings for me! Now we need you to just sit back while we be* slap you everyday, strip you of your freedoms of speech, de-platform you, demonetise you, ban you from all social media networks, confiscate all your legally owned firearms, and force you to pay for all entitlements for anyone that comes through our southern border.
If you ain't Black you are smart enough to, I mean you ain't smart enough, don't vote for White kids errrrm all men are created Black. Errr no White, no, I mean equal to my hairy legs. I'm Irish, kids like to touch my white hairy legs, errrrrm, truths are evident, no facts are truths. Hey you know what I mean. Cmon man.I keep wondering whether you are ignorant or in bad faith, maybe a bit of both in fact. Anyway you should see a doctor: it looks like a bad case of mental pneumonia.
Beijing4987
01-23-21, 08:45
Did anyone here actually read the Special Counsel Robert Mueller's Report or notice the 37 indictments, 199 criminal charges and 7 guilty pleas? If not, my next post will start with Volume 1. "Criminal Conspiracy".
Keep in mind that it's impossible to nail a mafia boss that has the power to pardon federal crimes. The underlings flip when staring a hard time.
I want to unite the country. LOUD CACKLE. Seriously, is anyone dumb enough to believe that shit about uniting the country?!
It's time to come clean. We stole the presidency fair and square. I even warned the Republicans before the election that we had the "most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics" but the dumb fucks still went out to vote for Trump! Losers, all 74 million of them. As someone else once said, "it's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes".
For 4 years, 5 if we include the lead up to the 2016 election, we called Trump voters irredeemable, deplorable, nazis, white supremacists, racists, fascists, rapists, child molesters, uneducated, sexist, islamophobes, misogynists and a host of other derogatory terms. But we hold the moral high ground so are entitled to debase our enemies.
Yes, Barack Obama spied on Trump. Yes, we told you baseless lies about Trump, we told you he was a Russian asset, that he was in Putin's pocket. We spent the last 5 years demonising and vilifying Trump, we fantasised about killing him. What about it? Republicans are our enemies, not our political opponents. We need to crush and destroy them. And we will succeed..So you're still drinking the kool aid?
ScatManDoo
01-23-21, 10:41
I note that the fencing in DC is still up. Is it to keep Joe from wandering off?Maybe to keep you out.
Do you really think that TrumpShit did not know the size and make-up of of his January 6th Capital Hill Goon Squads?
Remember, they make up mutual admiration objects.
Think about what real-time info would have been available to TrumpShit. TrumpShit knew the comparative size of Those Guarding the capital and the size of His Goon Squad.
Think for the first time in your life.My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?
You haven't answered the questions. But yes of course he knew there would be a protest, because he was the one who called for the protest! But he did NOT incite or encourage these protestors to commit violence or to engage in any illegal activity.
I keep wondering whether you are ignorant or in bad faith, maybe a bit of both in fact. Anyway you should see a doctor: it looks like a bad case of mental pneumonia.It was a satirical piece, mocking and ridiculing Sleepy Joe. It also contained many elements of truth about the Democrats, and also about Sleepy Joe.
My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?
You haven't answered the questions. But yes of course he knew there would be a protest, because he was the one who called for the protest! But he did NOT incite or encourage these protestors to commit violence or to engage in any illegal activity.After telling his supporters over and over again that the elections were rigged and asking them to "stop the steal"? Isn't it enough? What the next step would be to "stop the steal" except for storming the Capitol and preventing the Congress from certifying the results? You are in bad faith. Or you want to pull us mongers' leg?
ScatManDoo
01-23-21, 12:42
It was a satirical piece, mocking and ridiculing Sleepy Joe.Amateurishly written.
It also contained many elements of truth about the Democrats, and also about Sleepy Joe.Only in your shattered and confused mind.
ScatManDoo
01-23-21, 12:49
My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?.That was provided yesterday in this very thread.
By me.
You are sounding like a broken record.
I mean a moron broken record.
Chocha Monger
01-23-21, 13:07
My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?
You haven't answered the questions. But yes of course he knew there would be a protest, because he was the one who called for the protest! But he did NOT incite or encourage these protestors to commit violence or to engage in any illegal activity.Biden will implement strict gun control to disarm the QAnon and white supremacist nut jobs. After their guns are gone, they will be less of a threat to democracy.
Philosophus
01-23-21, 13:40
My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?
You haven't answered the questions. But yes of course he knew there would be a protest, because he was the one who called for the protest! But he did NOT incite or encourage these protestors to commit violence or to engage in any illegal activity.Mitch McConnel: People were fed lies. People were provoked by the President and other powerful people.
President Donald J. Trump greets the crowd at the "Stop The Steal" Rally on January 6th, 2021 in Washington, DC. Urging their presence at the legislature to give "weak" Republicans in Congress "the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. "* "Let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue," he told the crowd in front of him, concluding his speech right around 13:10 hours Eastern time. * "We're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and -women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them," Trump told the crowd a few minutes after noon. *"I'll be there with you," he noted. *"We're never going to take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. " Trump called out members of Congress and the vice president by name, over and over, taking his time to explain to the crowd that the legislators' choice to certify Biden's victory would stick with them for life. "Right over there — right there! — we see an event, going to take place, and I'm going to be watching, because history is going to be made," Trump said. "We're going to see whether or not we have great and courageous leaders, or whether we have leaders that should be ashamed of themselves throughout history. "*.
"America's elections used to be respected the world over, Trump said. Unfortunately, though, his loss meant that was no longer the case: "You know what the world says about us now? They say we don't have free and fair elections. " The President turned up the temperature, comparing his base of supporters to a fighter with his hands tied behind his back. * "We want to be so nice," he said. "We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people, and we're going to have to fight much harder. " Then, he turned his focus to Vice President Mike Pence. Pence had told Trump that he did not have the power to throw out the election results as Trump wanted. Trump was reportedly furious at this. But he didn't let on that he knew what the vice president would do. * "Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us, and if he doesn't, that would be a sad day for our country," he said. "Because you're sworn to uphold the Constitution. "*"Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy," he said. Shortened by the author. Source: TPM (talking point memo, Jan 9th, 2021).
Donald Trump ought to be convicted by the parliament he sought to besiege. One of the worst presidential acts in the history of the US.
Originally Posted by Mdemde: "What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?
You really call that evidence of incitement to riot? Is that really the best you have?Actually, the clearest evidence is coming out of the mouths of the lawyers for the insurrectionists. Virtually all of them are saying that they'll use a version of the Flip Wilson defense ("Trump made me do it") or a version of the Nuremberg defense ("I was just following orders from Trump".
By the way, the insurrectionists are on tape saying that Trump told them to do it. But not to worry, there aren't 17 Senators with spines.
Mitch McConnel: People were fed lies. People were provoked by the President and other powerful people.
President Donald J. Trump greets the crowd at the "Stop The Steal" Rally on January 6th, 2021 in Washington, DC. Urging their presence at the legislature to give "weak" Republicans in Congress "the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. "* "Let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue," he told the crowd in front of him, concluding his speech right around 13:10 hours Eastern time. * "We're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and -women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them," Trump told the crowd a few minutes after noon. *"I'll be there with you," he noted. *"We're never going to take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. " Trump called out members of Congress and the vice president by name, over and over, taking his time to explain to the crowd that the legislators' choice to certify Biden's victory would stick with them for life. "Right over there right there! we see an event, going to take place, and I'm going to be watching, because history is going to be made," Trump said. "We're going to see whether or not we have great and courageous leaders, or whether we have leaders that should be ashamed of themselves throughout history..Donald Trump is undoubtedly the best American president since the 80's.
The Democrats created this situation by their unprecedented witch-hunt against Trump and their support of extremists initiating insurrections and riots all over America. The Democrats needs to apologize for how they attacked US democracy by calling Donald Trump "illegitimate" and encouraged terrorists to attack one American city after the other. Cops were killed because of the liberal media and liberal politicians.
The leftist made USA look like a third world country.
After telling his supporters over and over again that the elections were rigged and asking them to "stop the steal"? Isn't it enough? What the next step would be to "stop the steal" except for storming the Capitol and preventing the Congress from certifying the results? You are in bad faith. Or you want to pull us mongers' leg?I would say that you're in bad faith.
I understand what this is about, you liberals supports political violence and terrorism as long as it's carried out by your own people. What you haven't realized is that conservatives do not condone political violence no matter of the perpetrators political affiliation.
So you're still drinking the kool aid?So you actually believe that Biden wants to unite the nation? LMFAO!
In a way it's actually true, he wants to unite the nation but without having to compromise on a single issue. Joe Biden is the most radical left wing president USA ever seen.
After telling his supporters over and over again that the elections were rigged and asking them to "stop the steal"? Isn't it enough? What the next step would be to "stop the steal" except for storming the Capitol and preventing the Congress from certifying the results? You are in bad faith. Or you want to pull us mongers' leg?I took that to mean to demonstrate, peacefully, outside the Capitol. As did the vast majority of the tens of thousands / hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters who went on the protest. It was just a tiny minority of Trump supporters that got carried away and entered the Capitol Building, along with some anti-fa agitators. Some of the protestors broke in, some were waved in by the security who were guarding the building. But But the very idea that Trump wanted an insurrection is simply preposterous. Those protestors that broke the law will have to face the consequences of their actions and Trump has condemned those that broke the law.
As for the allegations that the election was rigged, Biden could have stepped up back in November and announced that his first act after he was sworn in as President would be to set up an independent audit of the voting and invited Trump to participate. But Biden didn't. It's almost as if he, and the Democrats, are frightened of what such an audit might dig up.
I took that to mean to demonstrate, peacefully, outside the Capitol. As did the vast majority of the tens of thousands / hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters who went on the protest. It was just a tiny minority of Trump supporters that got carried away and entered the Capitol Building, along with some anti-fa agitators. Some of the protestors broke in, some were waved in by the security who were guarding the building. But But the very idea that Trump wanted an insurrection is simply preposterous. Those protestors that broke the law will have to face the consequences of their actions and Trump has condemned those that broke the law.
As for the allegations that the election was rigged, Biden could have stepped up back in November and announced that his first act after he was sworn in as President would be to set up an independent audit of the voting and invited Trump to participate. But Biden didn't. It's almost as if he, and the Democrats, are frightened of what such an audit might dig up.Hundreds of judges, many of them republicans appointed by Trump, officials galore from every state, many of them republicans as well, confirmed Biden's win, several files, submitted by Trump's legal team, were laughed out of court after court.
You are a second edition of Shoo Bree? If not, stop beating about the bush and tell us once and for all WHO in your opinion did win the election?
My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?
You haven't answered the questions. But yes of course he knew there would be a protest, because he was the one who called for the protest! But he did NOT incite or encourage these protestors to commit violence or to engage in any illegal activity.If Trump did not intend for his lies and rant to rile up his mob to storm and invade the Capitol Building then when the case is made at his Impeachment trial in the Senate he can present the evidence that he immediately picked up his well worn phone to call out the military and demand all effort be made to stop them the minute he saw on live TV like the rest of us that his mob was doing exactly that.
Surely there must be plenty of evidence that he was shocked and dismayed by behavior he never, ever intended, in real time, when he saw them climbing the walls, breaking windows, getting a blow-by-blow report for what they were actually doing when they arrived at the Capitol Building on his orders. And he must have gotten that intel sooner than almost anyone else in the country. So there must also be a phone record and lots of documentation of President Trump making those calls at an emergency pace within a minute of the first sound and report of broken glass.
Now, if instead, there is only evidence and testimony of him sitting back on his couch watching the rioters storm and invade the place without him springing into action to call out the troops to respond to what he later called "defiling the seat of American democracy", well then that behavior will go a long way to substantiating the most difficult aspect to prove for the crime of inciting a riot with ones words; intent.
"This going to be hard to live down.
Majority Leader Chuck Schumer got a rise out of lawmakers on the Senate floor Friday when he fumbled his words and said that they will have to decide if former President Donald Trump incited the "erection" against the US.
"Make no mistake, there will be a trial and when that trial ends, senators will have to decide if they believe Donald John Trump incited the erection against the United States," Schumer said. . . " NY Post.
Commenters: "Gads. Maybe he has whatever Biden has. " "Erections have consequences."
"is it constitutional to impeach someone not in office? This seems like a pretty straightforward yes or no question. If it's unclear, and they move forward, I can't wait until the trial for Obama once the MAGA party moves in."
Is that Jeffrey Toobin's defense? Trump incited his erection? LOL.
"That was Freudian. Chuckie has always had a hard on for Trump since Day One. " "In before the Toobin remark. " "Is that Jeffrey Toobin's defense? Trump incited his erection? LOL".
If Trump did not intend for his lies and rant to rile up his mob to storm and invade the Capitol Building then when the case is made at his Impeachment trial in the Senate he can present the evidence that he immediately picked up his well worn phone to call out the military and demand all effort be made to stop them the minute he saw on live TV like the rest of us that his mob was doing exactly that.
Surely there must be plenty of evidence that he was shocked and dismayed by behavior he never, ever intended, in real time, when he saw them climbing the walls, breaking windows, getting a blow-by-blow report for what they were actually doing when they arrived at the Capitol Building on his orders. And he must have gotten that intel sooner than almost anyone else in the country. So there must also be a phone record and lots of documentation of President Trump making those calls at an emergency pace within a minute of the first sound and report of broken glass.
Now, if instead, there is only evidence and testimony of him sitting back on his couch watching the rioters storm and invade the place without him springing into action to call out the troops to respond to what he later called "defiling the seat of American democracy", well then that behavior will go a long way to substantiating the most difficult aspect to prove for the crime of inciting a riot with ones words; intent.
So, what's in the letter Trump left for Biden? I know! "I won sleepy Joe"! LOLOLOL!
ScatManDoo
01-24-21, 04:09
Now, if instead, there is only evidence and testimony of him sitting back on his couch watching the rioters storm and invade the place without him springing into action to call out the troops to respond to what he later called "defiling the seat of American democracy", well then that behavior will go a long way to substantiating the most difficult aspect to prove for the crime of inciting a riot with ones words; intent.There are a lot of accounts (I believe corroborating more than a dozen sources) of WH staff and government officials present in the White House when Trump finished inciting on January 6th and went back inside the White House. The Trump White House leaks more than a 1992 Cadillac with over 180,000 miles on the odometer.
Donald Trump riled up the crowd with his first words at around 12:15 until his final words to the Eclipses' crowd around an hour later at 1:15 PM. Before TrumpShit finished his speaking, crowd members began heading to the Capital. The first of five barricades at the Capital was breeched at 12:53 PM and by 2 PM essentially all the different barricade boundaries had been crossed by groups of rioters.
He was delighted with the rioting he was seeing on TV and he seemed confused (like not understanding) that the people around him were not as gleeful about what was unfolding as he was.
He expressed his pleasure and enjoyment with the insurrection.
Numerous WH people were encouraging TrumpShit to call in the National Guard, but for around two hours of repeated encouragement from the folks there, TrumpShit made no call to the National Guard.
Mike Pence, securely guarded with other Pence family members in the Capital grounds was the one to eventually call for the National Guard.
The National Guard mobilized after a brief delay, the delay used to confirm they would act this time on Pence's request alone.
If you remember, around a half dozen people who work in the Trump administration, and who were witness to all this fucked-up crap from the President, resigned in less than 24 hours.
What is the literary comparison?
Maybe Roman Emperor Nero fiddling as Rome burned?
I took that to mean to demonstrate, peacefully, outside the Capitol. As did the vast majority of the tens of thousands / hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters who went on the protest. It was just a tiny minority of Trump supporters that got carried away and entered the Capitol Building, along with some anti-fa agitators. Some of the protestors broke in, some were waved in by the security who were guarding the building. But But the very idea that Trump wanted an insurrection is simply preposterous. Those protestors that broke the law will have to face the consequences of their actions and Trump has condemned those that broke the law.
As for the allegations that the election was rigged, Biden could have stepped up back in November and announced that his first act after he was sworn in as President would be to set up an independent audit of the voting and invited Trump to participate. But Biden didn't. It's almost as if he, and the Democrats, are frightened of what such an audit might dig up.No there was a coordinated attack on the capital building. Yes some protestors may have just come along for the ride. No there was no antifa presence. All those arrested have long social media histories of Trump support.
The Federal government has no say in how states conduct there elections. Trump already did an audit in 2017 and found nothing. Many states just told him to go jump. Biden could not institute an audit without cooperation from the states. Georgia did several recounts and an audit and it did not change the result. The bottom line is Trumps behavior antagonizes more people than it wins.
I would say that you're in bad faith.
I understand what this is about, you liberals supports political violence and terrorism as long as it's carried out by your own people. What you haven't realized is that conservatives do not condone political violence no matter of the perpetrators political affiliation.So all those militias Trump so loves just like to play with those guns and go marching with them but of course they would never use them.
My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?The way you ask this question, it's as if you are under the impression that impeachment hearings are criminal trials in which evidence must be provided to prove guilt "without a doubt."
The reality, however, is that while impeachment is a legal hearing, it is not necessarily a criminal trial. The standard of proof is much lower than, say, a murder trial, despite multiple numerous defense teams' attempts to try a case otherwise.
As such, if a reasonable case can be made that, even if Trump did not directly instruct the crowd to cause violence, his actions leading up to the 6th of January (knowingly promoting unwarranted claims, coercing election "officials to find votes," the inflammatory speeches and tweets, etc) it would be reasonable for the Senate to find him responsible for "incitement of insurrection" even without direct verbiage to promote violence. In this case, it is a case of personal conduct, one that betrays "public trust. " Even if his words cannot be proven to be direct incitement, his cumulative actions from the election to the riots are being evaluated in their totality, not just the speech on the 6th of January.
(I am no constitutional legal expert but I can read Wikipedia and the sources that it references.)
ScatManDoo
01-24-21, 06:04
In a way it's actually true, he wants to unite the nation but without having to compromise on a single issue.As opposed to Trump, who would just get outmaneuvered by politicians in both parties that could easily wipe the floor with Trump when he would stubbornly refuse to compromise, like a confused, frustrated & powerless child. Easy to outmaneuver the outmatched and unaware.
Joe Biden is the most radical left wing president USA ever seen.Funny, I hear him always described as a moderate democrat by people who are professionally employed as political analysts.
Not amateur blind fools.
Did you think of this on your own or did you have to go to a liberal school to think this stupid crap up?No schooling at all should be necessary to figure out if Trump just sat on his big rump and watched his mob invade and vandalize the Capitol Building on TV rather than spring into action to call out the troops to stop them the first minute he saw that happening then they were obviously doing exactly what he intended his lies and rant to incite them to do.
Really? Something so obvious never once occurred to you in the weeks since the insurrection until I mentioned it here?
Joseph Biden's "inauguration" is empty.
Compare the images from 2017 (Trump's inauguration) and 2021 (Biden's) for yourself. . . "
Why not compare with Obama inauguration? Insted the half empty Trump. Or was it the Kukuksclan white dress? - that make it look so empty during Trumps inauguration?
An opinion piece by Douglas Murray, published today in the Daily Mail (link below).
In what way is this policy a good idea? Is this not open to abuse? Would you Liberals be happy to let your daughter or your granddaughter or your girlfriend share a restroom / changing room with a male?
"During his first hours in office, Biden signed an executive order calling on all federal agencies to ensure that people who identify as the opposite sex should be free to use whatever changing room or 'restroom' they wish to. And that school sports must sign up to 'combat discrimination on the basis of gender identity'.
There is something of the late Roman empire about this, the arrogance of a ruling elite in terminal decline. The world's most powerful man gets into office at a time of unprecedented crisis and one of his first priorities is to ensure that men who identify as women should be allowed to use female changing rooms and pulverise any woman he comes across in competitive sports. All in the name of equality, obviously. ".
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9179953/DOUGLAS-MURRAY-Left-stop-fawning-Joe-Biden-fear-wont-end-well.html
Donald Trump is undoubtedly the best American president since the 80's.
The Democrats created this situation by their unprecedented witch-hunt against Trump and their support of extremists initiating insurrections and riots all over America. The Democrats needs to apologize for how they attacked US democracy by calling Donald Trump "illegitimate" and encouraged terrorists to attack one American city after the other. Cops were killed because of the liberal media and liberal politicians.
The leftist made USA look like a third world country.Really? Democrats did that? There isn't a single shred of evidence for that except in Hannity's head.
ScatManDoo
01-24-21, 15:39
Why not compare with Obama inauguration? Insted the half empty Trump. Or was it the Kukuksclan white dress? - that make it look so empty during Trumps inauguration?It was the large, empty lawn areas that made the Mall look so empty during TrumpShit's inauguration.
And T. Shit look so pitifully & desperate when he tried lying about his crowd size when compared to Obama.
Trump was always afraid of being objectively "Measured Up" to Barack Obama.
Melania knows what I mean.
An opinion piece by Douglas Murray, published today in the Daily Mail (link below).
In what way is this policy a good idea? Is this not open to abuse? Would you Liberals be happy to let your daughter or your granddaughter or your girlfriend share a restroom / changing room with a male?
"During his first hours in office, Biden signed an executive order calling on all federal agencies to ensure that people who identify as the opposite sex should be free to use whatever changing room or 'restroom' they wish to. And that school sports must sign up to 'combat discrimination on the basis of gender identity'.
There is something of the late Roman empire about this, the arrogance of a ruling elite in terminal decline. The world's most powerful man gets into office at a time of unprecedented crisis and one of his first priorities is to ensure that men who identify as women should be allowed to use female changing rooms and pulverise any woman he comes across in competitive sports. All in the name of equality, obviously. ".
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9179953/DOUGLAS-MURRAY-Left-stop-fawning-Joe-Biden-fear-wont-end-well.htmlWhat about women who identify as men?
Daniel Greenfield January 24,2021.
On a cold, windy day with a small group of spectators watching from behind barbed wire, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. Swore another in a long series of false oaths before his motorcade passed between a long row of soldiers with their backs to him looking outward for threats.
No inauguration has been this empty in a century of American history. And at no inauguration have the spectators been outnumbered by a raw display of armed force. American presidents have been inaugurated in wartime and during actual national emergencies with a better turnout.
Through world wars and wars on terror, Washington the. See. Has remained a national capital where the hundreds of millions of taxpayers who labor to pay for its grand edifices, free museums, and lavish lifestyles could briefly come to enjoy a little of the life lived by the ruling class in the Imperial City. Now the ruling class has made it clear that it doesn't want peasants entering the. See.
Even as Biden's team prepped the executive orders that would end the national emergency at the border and shut down construction of the wall, new walls topped by razor wire were rising across the imperial city. The new Fortress of Government sealed off two miles of the National Mall and parts of downtown the. See. And filled it with more soldiers than are deployed in Iraq.
The Secret Service designated green and red zones. Some 25,000 National Guard members were dispatched from Vermont, Maine, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Arkansas, Missouri, South Carolina, Rhode Island, Virginia, and Colorado to prepare for a fake invasion that never came. But the armored vehicles and heavy weaponry did come. President Trump had wanted a military parade that would show America's strength to the world. Biden held his own military parade to intimidate his fellow Americans.
Democrats had deployed more soldiers in the. See. Than they had in Iraq and Afghanistan while authorizing them to use lethal force and investigating their politics before the deployment. The radical leftists who had resisted using the military to fight terrorism or secure the border from invasion were eager to deploy the military against the people of the United States of America. . . ".
Full article: http://www.danielgreenfield.org/2021/01/the-dc-occupation-will-continue-until.html.
Why not compare with Obama inauguration? Insted the half empty Trump. Or was it the Kukuksclan white dress? - that make it look so empty during Trumps inauguration?
No schooling at all should be necessary to figure out if Trump just sat on his big rump and watched his mob invade and vandalize the Capitol Building on TV rather than spring into action to call out the troops to stop them the first minute he saw that happening then they were obviously doing exactly what he intended his lies and rant to incite them to do.
Really? Something so obvious never once occurred to you in the weeks since the insurrection until I mentioned it here?What is really obvious is you only condone violence from the right. Biden is doing nothing to stop the left BLM and Antifa from destroying property, looting and physical violence. Does this mean Biden should be impeached because he is allowing it? Are you liberals proud of yourself for your beliefs that defunding the police, open borders, abolish ice, transgender men or women in children bathrooms. Is this really the values of Americans who care for their country? Who care to keep children safe? Do you really believe that we should allow millions of people to come into our country and take jobs away from our citizens? Our kids? Our friends? Why do you hate the American way of life? Do you really think your parents would be proud of your thinking? Do you really believe that your parents and grandparents were all racist and their history should be abolished? Why are you still living in such a horrible country that needs all these changes. Do you really believe that this will make America better? If you are proud of this it pretty much sums up who you are.
Philosophus
01-24-21, 18:26
Donald Trump is undoubtedly the best American president since the 80's.
The Democrats created this situation by their unprecedented witch-hunt against Trump and their support of extremists initiating insurrections and riots all over America. The Democrats needs to apologize for how they attacked US democracy by calling Donald Trump "illegitimate" and encouraged terrorists to attack one American city after the other. Cops were killed because of the liberal media and liberal politicians.
The leftist made USA look like a third world country.Shoo, call me a Reagan Republican. Don't scapegoat "Democrats". All Americans in power, Democrat and Republican alike, must deal with nihilism, hooliganism and class warfare. Mrs. Clinton polemicized (deplorables) but she conceded on election night. Mr Trump certainly made insult a standard tool of his communication but he did not concede even weeks after the fact. Compare that with Al Gore in 2000, who lost Florida and the presidency by 500 votes. We expect more of any politician of any color. Trump alone is responsible for his words on Jan 6th and prior, no matter how much he was harrassed.
In hindsight, most Americans view their presidents positively. They are woven in their lives. It makes perfect sense. I diagree with what you claim to be an "undoubtable" truth. Trump's legacy will be the infamy of Jan 6th, 2021, sadly. Americans are unforgiving in this respect. Nixon had his merits, but his reputation never recovered. Lincoln is a saint for somehow weaving the country back together. Wilson won a war, as did Truman. Reagan and George W. Bush were very good persons and loving spouses. Reagan finished communism off. George Bush oversaw unification of Germany. Clinton was handsome and balanced the budget with Newt. George W. Invested in Africa and in American children, also managed 911 admirably. Obama will forever be etched in the history books as the first man of color in that post, no matter what else you and I agree or disagree on. As for Trump, the scenes of Jan 6th 2021 will dominate. I hope his clarity on Israel and his dedication to the rue of law at the Southern border will prevail. But they are peanuts compared to his morbid stubbornness, his inability to recognize who he is, his bullying and his perpetual fact twisting which led this nadir of American political culture.
Funny, I hear him always described as a moderate democrat by people who are professionally employed as political analysts.
Not amateur blind fools.Oh really, did you hear that on CNN? LMFAO!
Looking at what Biden is saying and what people he's nominating I think it's rather clear that Biden is by no means a moderate. He's a left-wing extremist who would be consider too extreme by most European countries.
Really? Democrats did that? There isn't a single shred of evidence for that except in Hannity's head.I understand that you as a leftist wants to ignore the obvious. The liberal politicians are egging them on by repeating their narrative. Just look at the Democrats; Camel Harris basically accused Biden of being a racist and AOC did the same against the lizard woman in the senate.
Please tell me, is the Democratic Party:
A. Full of racists.
Or.
B. Social justice warriors playing the race card against their own colleagues?
Shoo, call me a Reagan Republican. Don't scapegoat "Democrats". All Americans in power, Democrat and Republican alike, must deal with nihilism, hooliganism and class warfare. Mrs. Clinton polemicized (deplorables) but she conceded on election night. Mr Trump certainly made insult a standard tool of his communication but he did not concede even weeks after the fact. Compare that with Al Gore in 2000, who lost Florida and the presidency by 500 votes. We expect more of any politician of any color. Trump alone is responsible for his words on Jan 6th and prior, no matter how much he was harrassed.
In hindsight, most Americans view their presidents positively. They are woven in their lives. It makes perfect sense. I diagree with what you claim to be an "undoubtable" truth. Trump's legacy will be the infamy of Jan 6th, 2021, sadly. Americans are unforgiving in this respect. Nixon had his merits, but his reputation never recovered. Lincoln is a saint for somehow weaving the country back together. Wilson won a war, as did Truman. Reagan and George W. Bush were very good persons and loving spouses. Reagan finished communism off. George Bush oversaw unification of Germany. Clinton was handsome and balanced the budget with Newt. George W. Invested in Africa and in American children, also managed 911 admirably. Obama will forever be etched in the history books as the first man of color in that post, no matter what else you and I agree or disagree on. As for Trump, the scenes of Jan 6th 2021 will dominate. I hope his clarity on Israel and his dedication to the rue of law at the Southern border will prevail. But they are peanuts compared to his morbid stubbornness, his inability to recognize who he is, his bullying and his perpetual fact twisting which led this nadir of American political culture.I disagree completely. Trump did nothing wrong and he can't be blamed for the actions of other free women and men.
Things do not happen in a vacuum. The Democrats didn't accept the result of the election in 2016. They repeatedly attacked the legitimacy of the president and the election. They basically claimed that the election was stolen by Russia and Trump wasn't the legitimate president.
Trump did what the Democrats had done against him. I support him to 100 percent.
Also, you don't think that all the violence and disorder supported by the liberals and carried out by BLM / antifa had any effect on the far right?
The liberals turned the heat on, first by attacking the election in 2016 and then by attacking American cities in 2019.
I've said it before and I will say it again, the liberals are turning USA into a third world country.
ScatManDoo
01-24-21, 20:44
Oh really, did you hear that on CNN? LMFAO!
Looking at what Biden is saying and what people he's nominating I think it's rather clear that Biden is by no means a moderate. He's a left-wing extremist who would be consider too extreme by most European countries.No doubt you would have made the same loopy analysis to claim moderate Bill Clinton and moderate Jimmy Carter were really wildly left extremists.
Biden was one of the moderates among the 2016 democratic candidates. And he remains a moderate democrat today, despite what his opponents try to paint him as day to day for the convenience of matching the day's talking points.
Kiss those $75 k per year starting pay on the Keystone Oil pipeline goodbye!
"Joe Biden has already made labor unions regret their support for him. During his first day in office, Biden revoked the construction permit for the Keystone XL oil pipeline, destroying thousands of jobs.
TC Energy Corp. , the Canadian company sharing ownership of the pipeline with the Alberta government, had estimated that 10,000 jobs would be created in 2021 thanks to the construction of the pipeline.
A total of 42,000 jobs were to be filled once the pipeline was completed.
The Laborer's International Union Of North America issued this statement:"The Biden decision to cancel the Keystone XL pipeline permit on day one of his presidency is both insulting and disappointing to the thousands of hard-working LIUNA members who will lose good-paying, middle-class family-supporting jobs.
"By pandering to environmental extremists, a thousand union jobs will immediately vanish and 10,000 additional jobs will be foregone."
This comes after LIUNA bragged about pushing Biden "over the top" in 2020:
The North American Building Trades Union said: "North America's Building Trades Unions are deeply disappointed in the decision to cancel the Keystone XL permit on the President's first day in office. Environmental ideologues have prevailed, and over a thousand union men and women have been terminated from employment on the project.
The United Association Of Union Plumbers and Pipefitters released this statement:"In revoking this permit, the Biden Administration has chosen to listen to the voices of fringe activists instead of union members and the American consumer on Day 1. ". . . Full article:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/insulting-unions-endorsed-biden-now-lashing/
Beijing4987
01-24-21, 22:21
Anyone read this before, or did you rely on Attorney General Fred Flintstone's false summary before the redacted version was published?
"The Russian Government believed it benefited from Trump winning the election, so it hacked the Democrat's computers and ran a massive disinformation campaign online. Vol 1 pg 5.
"Donald Trump and his campaign invited interference in the election and his campaign repeatedly communicated with. Russia and Wikileaks, which hacked Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC and spread the stolen data. Vol 1 pg 5,49.
"Trump's campaign chairman Paul Manafort met repeatedly with an individual linked with Russian intelligence and provided internal strategy plans to target voters in key midwestern states. Vol 1 pg 136,138,140.
"Trump and his campaign had advanced knowledge of the release of stolen information, and his campaign planned press strategy around it" vol 1 pg 54.
"Trump and his campaign repeatedly signaled that his administration's policy would be favorable to Russia".
Robert Muller's Team incited 37 individuals on 199 charges. Secured 7 convictions.
Attorney General Sessions was forced to recuse himself for lying about contact with Russian Ambassador Kislyak, setting in motion the appointment of the Special Prosecutor.
Keep this in mind: a mafia boss with temporary presidential immunity from the justice department and dangling the pardon power for federal crimes in front of his co conspirators will not be convicted by a Senate controlled by his party.
Philosophus
01-24-21, 22:28
I disagree completely. Trump did nothing wrong and he can't be blamed for the actions of other free women and men.
Things do not happen in a vacuum. The Democrats didn't accept the result of the election in 2016. They repeatedly attacked the legitimacy of the president and the election. They basically claimed that the election was stolen by Russia and Trump wasn't the legitimate president.
Trump did what the Democrats had done against him. I support him to 100 percent.
Also, you don't think that all the violence and disorder supported by the liberals and carried out by BLM / antifa had any effect on the far right?
The liberals turned the heat on, first by attacking the election in 2016 and then by attacking American cities in 2019.
I've said it before and I will say it again, the liberals are turning USA into a third world country.Please reconsider. The former president did a lot of wrong that day and before. He encouraged police violence. Roughing up detainees. "Proud boys stand back and stand by". Do you really think those messenges are not received? Bill Clinton was harrassed. Special prosecutor. Became a sex drive case. Obama was harrassed. They kept their discipline. But that can never justify what Trump said and what resulted directly from his actions. It is quite unique in the 2. 5 centuries the US exists. No congressperson is in Antifa. No congressperson is for BLM violence. Of course those groups had an effect. Stop grouping like "the liberals". A lot of bad comes from the violent left. But that does not justify by any means what the former president did. And he will pay dearly for it. And you should move on an identify a Republican whose views you share and who does not carry that awful awful baggage.
GeneHickman
01-24-21, 22:53
Please reconsider. The former president did a lot of wrong that day and before. He encouraged police violence. Roughing up detainees. "Proud boys stand back and stand by". Do you really think those messenges are not received? Bill Clinton was harrassed. Special prosecutor. Became a sex drive case. Obama was harrassed. They kept their discipline. But that can never justify what Trump said and what resulted directly from his actions. It is quite unique in the 2. 5 centuries the US exists. No congressperson is in Antifa. No congressperson is for BLM violence. Of course those groups had an effect. Stop grouping like "the liberals". A lot of bad comes from the violent left. But that does not justify by any means what the former president did. And he will pay dearly for it. And you should move on an identify a Republican whose views you share and who does not carry that awful awful baggage.I agree Trump is likely unelectable. People who pinched their noses and voted for him after Charlottesville will not after Jan 6th. Democrats approach is just as wrong now as it was during his tenure. Extremely divisive. Biden would do HIMSELF and the country a favor by calling off this impeachment but its full speed ahead. In a way, many like me quietly hope they ensure Trump can't run again.
But democrats and the left will be wrong to assume a lot of the tenets of Trumpism are dead.
Whether it was the attention paid the working class, the manufacturing rennaisance, the China and globalization and trade policy, NATO spending, no judicial activism policy, the development zones policy or so much more, these policies should have a champion as they deserve to be presented as a choice to the american public. If those can be separated from the cultural and racial issues, trumpism has a strong future in my opinion.
Philosophus
01-24-21, 22:55
Anyone read this before, or did you rely on Attorney General Fred Flintstone's false summary before the redacted version was published?
"The Russian Government believed it benefited from Trump winning the election, so it hacked the Democrat's computers and ran a massive disinformation campaign online. Vol 1 pg 5.
"Donald Trump and his campaign invited interference in the election and his campaign repeatedly communicated with. Russia and Wikileaks, which hacked Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC and spread the stolen data. Vol 1 pg 5,49.
"Trump's campaign chairman Paul Manafort met repeatedly with an individual linked with Russian intelligence and provided internal strategy plans to target voters in key midwestern states. Vol 1 pg 136,138,140.
"Trump and his campaign had advanced knowledge of the release of stolen information, and his campaign planned press strategy around it" vol 1 pg 54.
"Trump and his campaign repeatedly signaled that his administration's policy would be favorable to Russia".
Robert Muller's Team incited 37 individuals on 199 charges. Secured 7 convictions.
Attorney General Sessions was forced to recuse himself for lying about contact with Russian Ambassador Kislyak, setting in motion the appointment of the Special Prosecutor.
Keep this in mind: a mafia boss with temporary presidential immunity from the justice department and dangling the pardon power for federal crimes in front of his co conspirators will not be convicted by a Senate controlled by his party.The Mueller report is relevant and will lead to legal trouble for the former president. But there are also problems. The Russian government rightly concluded that the former president was less biased against them than his opponent. Mrs. Clinton's book seethes with anti-Russian sentiment. To rout for Trump is nothing unusual. Many Europeans routed for Clinton. Her husband had a much better hand in Strobe Talbott to handle things Russia. The Russian government has neither the power nor the wherewithal to impact US elections. Russian engages in asymmetric warfare which includes cybercrime abroad. And they tried to influence the US elections, which is and was foolish. But did that meaningfully impact the outcome? No. Mrs Clinton lost because she could not articulate why she ran (this is a quote from the current president). Because she was elevated by her husband onto a stage she could not fill. Because she used computers with the intent to hide her communications, a practice that would have gotten me fired in my assignments. Because of general skepticism with male and female US voters who for various reasons prefer men. Special prosectors burn up a lot of money and veer off target, whether their name is Walsh or Starr or Mueller. It is a sharp sword that ought to be wielded with caution. Walsh annoyed me because Reagan had fired the contrite Poindexter and North anyway. Starr invoked the breach of oath in a mutually consentual sex case. That to me is an insult to the cultural history of mankind akin to prohibiting alcohol. Just stupid. Clinton was wrong, in practice and taste, to do it with that chubby lady. Mueller I think is a very good man who caught a bunch of crooks, the former president included. But the premise that Russia swayed the elections is ludicrous.
What is really obvious is you only condone violence from the right. Biden is doing nothing to stop the left BLM and Antifa from destroying property, looting and physical violence. Does this mean Biden should be impeached because he is allowing it? Are you liberals proud of yourself for your beliefs that defunding the police, open borders, abolish ice, transgender men or women in children bathrooms. Is this really the values of Americans who care for their country? Who care to keep children safe? Do you really believe that we should allow millions of people to come into our country and take jobs away from our citizens? Our kids? Our friends? Why do you hate the American way of life? Do you really think your parents would be proud of your thinking? Do you really believe that your parents and grandparents were all racist and their history should be abolished? Why are you still living in such a horrible country that needs all these changes. Do you really believe that this will make America better? If you are proud of this it pretty much sums up who you are.Biden has been in office less than a week so your comments about Biden doing nothing shows that you are not even going to give the guy a chance. Trump had 4 years and was a complete failure.
Philosophus
01-24-21, 23:03
I agree Trump is likely unelectable. People who pinched their noses and voted for him after Charlottesville will not after Jan 6th. Democrats approach is just as wrong now as it was during his tenure. Extremely divisive. Biden would do HIMSELF and the country a favor by calling off this impeachment but its full speed ahead. In a way, many like me quietly hope they ensure he can't run again.
But democrats and the left will be wrong to assume a lot of the tenets of Trumpism are dead.
Whether it was the attention paod the working class, the manufacturing rennaisance, the China and globalization and trade policy, NATO spending, no judicial activism policy, the development zones policy or so much more, these policies should have a champion as they deserve to be presented as a choice to the american public. If those can be separated from the cultural and racial issues, trumpism has a strong future in my opinion.I agree, but would not call that Trumpism any more. It may become Pencism or Rubioism or if the hot and smart Nikky Haley runs Haleyism. Trumpism includes insult as a method to penetrate in all its forms. It is a losing proposition. He pulled it off against Hillary Clinton. As long as the Democrats nominate centrists like Clinton, Obama or Biden, they will always beat Trumpism. Biden will be in trouble soon. And. Korea. The Europeans. Eastern Ukraine. The deficit. Elitism will resurge among the liberals, like that idiot with the Dior Jordans for 5 000 bucks. May a good Republican rise to the occasion.
Shoo, call me a Reagan Republican. Don't scapegoat "Democrats". All Americans in power, Democrat and Republican alike, must deal with nihilism, hooliganism and class warfare. Mrs. Clinton polemicized (deplorables) but she conceded on election night. Mr Trump certainly made insult a standard tool of his communication but he did not concede even weeks after the fact. Compare that with Al Gore in 2000, who lost Florida and the presidency by 500 votes. We expect more of any politician of any color. Trump alone is responsible for his words on Jan 6th and prior, no matter how much he was harrassed.
In hindsight, most Americans view their presidents positively. They are woven in their lives. It makes perfect sense. I diagree with what you claim to be an "undoubtable" truth. Trump's legacy will be the infamy of Jan 6th, 2021, sadly. Americans are unforgiving in this respect. Nixon had his merits, but his reputation never recovered. Lincoln is a saint for somehow weaving the country back together. Wilson won a war, as did Truman. Reagan and George W. Bush were very good persons and loving spouses. Reagan finished communism off. George Bush oversaw unification of Germany. Clinton was handsome and balanced the budget with Newt. George W. Invested in Africa and in American children, also managed 911 admirably..Exactly. No matter the controversies, most Presidents eventually garner a respectable level of bipartisan adoration in hindsight; the pros and cons of Trump's presidency will just not measure up for that to happen. The January 6th event is the final nail in the coffin to hammer that fact legacy, although I think the legacy was probably already cemented.
His Presidency has pushed away a generation of future conservatives. As a conservative-leaner myself, the decision of so many of my peers to support this man despite logically understanding and seeing how he has bastardized the conservative brand and waged cultural warfare worse than anything that modern Democrats have done has made me question if rational conservatism is dead. While I know many conservative voters who publicly rebuke this man, most end up still casting a vote for him because they fear that the alternative is worse. I luke warmly disagree.
I agree Trump is likely unelectable. People who pinched their noses and voted for him after Charlottesville will not after Jan 6th. Democrats approach is just as wrong now as it was during his tenure. Extremely divisive. Biden would do HIMSELF and the country a favor by calling off this impeachment but its full speed ahead. In a way, many like me quietly hope they ensure Trump can't run again.
Whether it was the attention paid the working class, the manufacturing rennaisance, the China and globalization and trade policy, NATO spending, no judicial activism policy, the development zones policy or so much more, these policies should have a champion as they deserve to be presented as a choice to the american public. If those can be separated from the cultural and racial issues, trumpism has a strong future in my opinion.Biden has no say in the impeachment process so he cannot call it off. Trump would be better off pleading guilty as it would give Biden the opportunity to offer him a pardon for Federal offences. Trump is going to be sued civilly and criminally for a wide range of offences so there is not going to be a quick end to this.
Trump failed in pretty much everything he has done. His China trade war and his global trade policies have had no impact in increased manufacturing in the US its just been shuffled to other third world countries. The current account deficit is still expanding. Trump had a golden opportunity to shrink US military expenditures and shrink the military but failed to do so.
An opinion piece by Douglas Murray, published today in the Daily Mail (link below).
In what way is this policy a good idea? Is this not open to abuse? Would you Liberals be happy to let your daughter or your granddaughter or your girlfriend share a restroom / changing room with a male?
"During his first hours in office, Biden signed an executive order calling on all federal agencies to ensure that people who identify as the opposite sex should be free to use whatever changing room or 'restroom' they wish to. And that school sports must sign up to 'combat discrimination on the basis of gender identity'.
There is something of the late Roman empire about this, the arrogance of a ruling elite in terminal decline. The world's most powerful man gets into office at a time of unprecedented crisis and one of his first priorities is to ensure that men who identify as women should be allowed to use female changing rooms and pulverise any woman he comes across in competitive sports. All in the name of equality, obviously. ".
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9179953/DOUGLAS-MURRAY-Left-stop-fawning-Joe-Biden-fear-wont-end-well.htmlHow to make a unisex toilet? Put on a sealed door. Ooops that's a bit hard for republicans to imagine, how do they manage to do their toe tap intros then?
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