FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Dr Cornelius]

Visited Artemis on Sunday with the intention of staying until closing time. I got there around noon, and the place wasn't too busy. Paid my 80 EUR, took my shower and began exploring the place. Checked out the downstairs pool and sauna area, the weight-room and fitness area, and the downstairs kino. I sat down on one of the sofas in the kino just to relax and within 30 seconds I had a big titted chick sitting on my lap going, "Heyyyyy!

(1) Her name was Sheeva and she was from the Czech Republic. From RTFF, all the advice says to wait at least an hour after showing up before taking a girl and don't take the first girl that talks to you. I was trying to keep this advice in the back of my mind while talking to her, but it was easy to get distracted with her tits in my face, her hand under my robe and German porn blasting on the kino screen. She was being friendly in her conversation but kept steering it to "do you want to go up stairs?" I tried to steer it back to chit-chat, but finally she was like, "I could blow you here for 3 or 4 minutes, then we could go fuck. " At this point, she had Cornelius Jr at full attention, so I was like, "well. Ok. " She then proceeded to give me a sloppy wet BBBJ right in the kino area. She was deep-throating and spitting, she even titty-fucked me for a while. We went to one of the beds just off the kino area, and it was more BBBJ, followed by great doggy, porn-star mish with her legs in the air, finished with more excellent doggy. I busted an epic load, and even though I had ignored all the wise advice here on the forum, I felt very satisfied. Rating: Excellent (9/10).

(2) Few hours later, I met Kimmy, aka Black Tinkerbell, from the Bahamas at the upstairs bar. I was having friendly conversation with her for awhile, nothing was rushed at all. Decided I want to fuck this girl. I went to the locker room and took a Powertab (75% Viagra 25% Cialis) I had picked up at a sex shop the day before. Normally don't need PEDs, but they add to my fun and I figured my balls would be drained by the end of my Artemis experience. More conversation with Ms. Kimmy and then I took her upstairs. I started getting hard while walking up the stairs. She started with a great BBBJ and I had what I can only describe as a angry, blue-vain diamondcutter hard-on. Started with doggy and I banged her six-ways from Sunday. I could see that my efforts were a little strenuous for her, but she took the pounding like a champ. I busted another epic load, and as we were cleaning up, she jokingly called me a monster. On our way down the stairs, I could see she was having a little trouble walking. Rating: Excellent (9/10).

(3) Next, I was in the mood for some German Blonde fun. Sat down in the kino area and within a minute I had one on my lap. Her name was Nyla, beautiful face, blonde hair, and something of rarity at Artemis: real tits! Of course, hers are a lot smaller than most of the other girls, but they are gorgeous none the less. Took her upstairs, at the top of the stairs was her friend. She asked me to take her friend as well because they wanted to go to the sauna afterwards (Red Flag #1). I said no thanks, just Nyla would be fine. Her friend told me to make it quick because she was waiting (Red Flag #2). We get into the room and she starts to explain the extras to me. I forget the exact numbers but they seemed really high for anal and CIM. I told her just the standard BJ and fuck for 60 EUR would be fine enough and this seemed to put her off (Red Flag #3). Since she wasn't going to be able to squeeze anymore money out of me, she was determined to get this over with as quickly as possible. She started with a BBBJ, which was quite good, but she quit after about a minute. I didn't protest because she put a condom on and started riding me cowgirl. Her pussy was tight, which was great, but she didn't ride me for that long either. Switched to doggy which was also good. Because this was my 3rd pop, I wasn't cumming right away and was taking my time, enjoying myself. Finally she stopped it and said my dick was too big for her (normally a compliment right?) and said she would jerk me off. I asked we could fuck a little more and she said no because time was almost up. We had been in the room about 10 minutes, but I didn't want to get in an argument. She started with the HJ but kept asking "You cum now?" which of course would only break my concentration. Finally she said, "Why don't you try since you know what you like. " At this point I just wanted to get this over with, so I said fine. I finally finished with me jerking off with my right hand while fingering her shaved pussy with my left. Not ideal, but I still came pretty hard. As I was walking into the locker room to get her 60 EUR, she had the balls to say, "And it would be great if you don't forget the tip. " please, I'm the one that finished the job. Her looks were good, but she's a hustler. Rating: Average (5/10).

(4) My final lady was Amira, a dark complexion German. I read somewhere on here that she's half-German, half-Morroccan. I took her sometime around midnight, meaning I had been at Artemis over 12 hours. I did leave around 7 pm to walk around town for an hour which was nice. I also found sometime to sleep downstairs to get some energy back. Amira was nice to talk too, no serious pressure, but she's also business minded. Got her upstairs, and she explained all the extras very clearly. CIM 50 EURO, Anal 100+ EUR, GFE sex: 1 hour with kissing and such 120 EUR. I was fine with the standard. Same as the first 3, started with BBBJ which was great and then got on top of me. Her pussy was tight too and she has a clit piercing which I've never experienced before. Switched to doggy and I gave her a pounding which she took in stride. Since this was pop #4, I again was not cumming and after a while, she had to call it quits. She too said my dick was too big, but at least she had a better attitude about it. She finished me off with a HJ. I came hard again, but this time hardly a drop of jizz came out which made her laugh. Rating: Decent (7/10).

Balls drained, wallet drained, mission accomplished.

Total damage:

Entry: 80 EUR.

Sheeva: 60 EUR.

Kimmy: 60 EUR.

Nyla: 60 EUR.

Amira: 60 EUR.

320 EUR.

[Kirk Lazarus]

(3) Next, I was in the mood for some German Blonde fun. Sat down in the kino area and within a minute I had one on my lap. Her name was Nyla, beautiful face, blonde hair, and something of rarity at Artemis: real tits! Of course, hers are a lot smaller than most of the other girls, but they are gorgeous none the less. Took her upstairs, at the top of the stairs was her friend. She asked me to take her friend as well because they wanted to go to the sauna afterwards (Red Flag #1). I said no thanks, just Nyla would be fine. Her friend told me to make it quick because she was waiting (Red Flag #2). We get into the room and she starts to explain the extras to me. I forget the exact numbers but they seemed really high for anal and CIM. I told her just the standard BJ and fuck for 60 EUR would be fine enough and this seemed to put her off (Red Flag #3). Since she wasn't going to be able to squeeze anymore money out of me, she was determined to get this over with as quickly as possible. She started with a BBBJ, which was quite good, but she quit after about a minute. I didn't protest because she put a condom on and started riding me cowgirl. Her pussy was tight, which was great, but she didn't ride me for that long either. Switched to doggy which was also good. Because this was my 3rd pop, I wasn't cumming right away and was taking my time, enjoying myself. Finally she stopped it and said my dick was too big for her (normally a compliment right?) and said she would jerk me off. I asked we could fuck a little more and she said no because time was almost up. We had been in the room about 10 minutes, but I didn't want to get in an argument. She started with the HJ but kept asking "You cum now?" which of course would only break my concentration. Finally she said, "Why don't you try since you know what you like. " At this point I just wanted to get this over with, so I said fine. I finally finished with me jerking off with my right hand while fingering her shaved pussy with my left. Not ideal, but I still came pretty hard. As I was walking into the locker room to get her 60 EUR, she had the balls to say, "And it would be great if you don't forget the tip. " please, I'm the one that finished the job. Her looks were good, but she's a hustler. Rating: Average (5/10).Sounds like you met the infamous Nella / Nyla who I met and reviewed on my previous trip to Artemis. Little blond German from Hamburg. Pretty face, straight blond hair and small fit body. She's a hustler for sure. She tries to finish as fast as possible and makes up excuses to do as little work as possible. And yes, she also asked for a tip at the end of the session. My response to her was that she wasn't getting a tip and that her service is below par.

[DasBooty]

(3) Next, I was in the mood for some German Blonde fun. Sat down in the kino area and within a minute I had one on my lap. Her name was Nyla, beautiful face, blonde hair, and something of rarity at Artemis: real tits! Of course, hers are a lot smaller than most of the other girls, but they are gorgeous none the less. Took her upstairs, at the top of the stairs was her friend. She asked me to take her friend as well because they wanted to go to the sauna afterwards (Red Flag #1). I said no thanks, just Nyla would be fine. Her friend told me to make it quick because she was waiting (Red Flag #2). We get into the room and she starts to explain the extras to me. I forget the exact numbers but they seemed really high for anal and CIM. I told her just the standard BJ and fuck for 60 EUR would be fine enough and this seemed to put her off (Red Flag #3). Since she wasn't going to be able to squeeze anymore money out of me, she was determined to get this over with as quickly as possible. She started with a BBBJ, which was quite good, but she quit after about a minute. I didn't protest because she put a condom on and started riding me cowgirl. Her pussy was tight, which was great, but she didn't ride me for that long either. Switched to doggy which was also good. Because this was my 3rd pop, I wasn't cumming right away and was taking my time, enjoying myself. Finally she stopped it and said my dick was too big for her (normally a compliment right?) and said she would jerk me off. I asked we could fuck a little more and she said no because time was almost up. We had been in the room about 10 minutes, but I didn't want to get in an argument. She started with the HJ but kept asking "You cum now?" which of course would only break my concentration. Finally she said, "Why don't you try since you know what you like. " At this point I just wanted to get this over with, so I said fine. I finally finished with me jerking off with my right hand while fingering her shaved pussy with my left. Not ideal, but I still came pretty hard. As I was walking into the locker room to get her 60 EUR, she had the balls to say, "And it would be great if you don't forget the tip. " please, I'm the one that finished the job. Her looks were good, but she's a hustler. Rating: Average (5/10).#AWFUL.

I had a similar experience with Xenia (before she dyed her black hair blonde).

[Rocketboy0]

(3) Next, I was in the mood for some German Blonde ... Her name was Nyla, ...We had been in the room about 10 minutes, but I didn't want to get in an argumentNext time you or anyone is in that situation, with all going south, just stop, esp if it is only 10 min into a session. Leave with (or without) the girl, go to the front desk and complain. At least you will save a load, and you might get all or certainly 1/2 your money back, and the desk and girl are on notice to stop such nonsense. Bad chemistry can happen, but a girl can and should just say no before going to the room. Once she has agreed, she is agreeing to a certain Artemis minimum of service. Those standards give you some rights. If you are polite and calm about it, management will surely take your side and a partial refund-which would be at least fair, can happen. It also helps others and keeps the service of the place up to a certain level.

I have been in your situation once or twice, I did nothing, the offending girls are still working in the Bahnhoff, and I wish every time I see them that I had stopped and complained vs just carrying on by hand, and feeling shitty on several levels afterwards.

[SuppenHuhn]

http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/girls/img_0778/

The blonde one (the left girl) is Nella. To demand tip is terrible.

[BoniFun]

I went to the locker room and took a Powertab (75% Viagra 25% Cialis) I had picked up at a sex shop the day before. These pills sounds like fun.

Where can I buy them? Are there any online shop that sells them?

[Dr Cornelius]

These pills sounds like fun.

Where can I buy them? Are there any online shop that sells them?I picked up six pills for 30 EUR the day before at a sex shop. The shop owner spoke really good English and seemed genuinely concerned about me not overdosing on the shit and giving myself a heart attack. As he explained to me, in Germany you need a prescription for boner pills, so selling me the pills isn't illegal but also not exactly legal, definitely a lot of grey area. For this reason, I'm a little hesitant to disclose the exact location of his shop, but I will say it was in a different part of Berlin and not close to Artemis. I don't have a paid membership, so I am not able to PM you the location. However, I assume you would be able to pick up these pills at any regular sex shop. I know there is one near the Zoological Garden Station. Just ask for Powertab.

The pills definitely work. The extra kick they give is great when you're screwing multiple times at a place like Artemis.

If caught by the police with the pills without a prescription I assume it isn't that big a deal because they're not illegal drugs, however I'm no German law expert so don't take my word for it. The shop owner gave me some great advice about putting the pills in my checked luggage at the airport. This saved my ass because the security search to board a plane at Tegel was more intrusive than anything I've experienced in the US. They did everything but stick a finger up my ass. I'm sure if I went through security and they found the pills in my possession, I would have had some explaining to do.

[ExcitedNoob]

Greetings,

I want to start by simply thanking everyone for the plethora of information you have provided in this thread! Some of the takeaway points I have garnered already will definitely aid me in my Artemis adventures! I've learned the etiquette, how to identify and say no to husslers, negotiate terms in advance, get names and country of origin, don't do the first girl that walks by, and the general vibe to expect upon arriving. Someone posted a clever trick, whereby you can gauge lady by how she responds to a decline of her services; "No, thank you not right now, but perhaps later," get the cold shoulder then it probably would have been very mechanical and let's get this over with type of sex.

I'm presenting a paper at a conference in Berlin next week and have been dreading the trip for months; my boss didn't give me a choice. Last week I was looking for interesting things to do while there, museums, sights, etc. To make the trip more bearable, when for one reason or another I decided to see if prostitution was legal. Boy did I do a 180 when I found out it was! I'm super excited to visit Berlin now, and all those late nights in the lab toiling away finally seem worth the time and energy expenditure. I did some research and found Artemis to be a popular choice then came across this thread and made up my mind.

I feel like I'm sort of taking advantage of you guys, because I cannot offer anything and am asking for some answers to questions. So if my abrupt entry into this thread is seen as a negative I will most definitely understand; I would definitely like to report back from my escapades in time though, as a thank you to those who answer.

So I have a couple of questions:

1. I can't speak German very well at all, is this going to be a large problem? I can pretty much only say the alphabet, count from 0-10, and pick up on a couple of common words. Google Translate works well on my phone and should get me out of any pickles, but I would be hard pressed to believe that they would allow me to bring my phone into the establishment.

2. This leads me to my second question, someone mentioned Kindles and IPads are allowed into the establishment; how about cell phones? Again, I'm betting not.

3. I'll be getting in on Tuesday and leaving Saturday. Thursday evening and Friday morning I must attend the conference; I plan on going to Artemis at least once and I sort of have a crowd phobia. Would you recommend going Wednesday or Friday? I plan on getting to the building early and staying as long as I can on either day, either until I'm spent or the crowd gets too dense.

Thanks for any suggestions / tips / answers I'm very much looking forward to posting something worth wild here in the near future.

[Rocketboy0]

Questions for you find gentlemenHi- I believe the girls would agree we are "find" gentlemen. To your Q's:

German not an issue; everyone speaks English. Artemis not a debating society in any case. The girls are used to mongers from everywhere. Euros speak louder than words.

Cell phones can be used in the reception area (2 big sofas) but not allowed inside. However people sort of discretely do, at least around the pool area outside. The obvious concern is snapping pictures of guests and posting somewhere. But lugging it in your bathrobe pocket also means you have to keep an eye on it, and there are far better things to keep one's eyes on. Plus you are not there to text and surf are you?

For sure go Friday- many more girls and choices. Arrive around 3 or 4 and just chill, swim, get your bearings, have some innocent chats unless of course lightning strikes and you hit it off. No rush, the full team will trickle in 5-730pm or so and there will be 10-20 girls on during the day. Things will be uncrowded or at least quite managable til easily 10 pm if not later. Of course, going on Wednesday would give you the option to also return Friday. Wed will not be quite the full line-up, and it is dessous/lingere day so not everyone strutting around naked which RB hugely favors. But you could go both days, and measure the difference for a future scientific paper to be presented in Berlin.

Just in passing, the idea of rejecting a girl, as a test to see if she is worthy is, to put it diplomatically, idiotic, as I have said before. Just imagine how you would feel. No matter how experienced, having sex with a total stranger has enough uncertainties as it is, and you really don't need to introduce mind games into the stew. These girls will rather obviously be more comfortable with someone who is a straight-shooter, fun, and appreciative. You just need to chat and feel a good vibe and it is quite simple. If you just take your time it will be quite clear whom to choose. A modicum of respect goes a long way. One linguistic issue is real - make sure you are comfortable talking and understanding her fully, and that she and you are clear about what to expect before going to a room.

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RB rolled the dice and was in the house last night, and it was shockingly not super crowded, just a good buzz on. I arrived early, very peaceful around the poolside the whole time, left around 11 pm and it was nothing like IFAs past. It was starting to build a bit then but nothing like years before. Great (great) lineup, no waiting for rooms. Was told Thurs pm was also like this. A number of girls were also commenting about it- could just be the general economic uncertainty. It is also slightly possible that the 10 rooms in the new Poondorf area have just spread things out enough. I have been there during IFAs past when it was just unbearable, even moving around was a chore, and left by 8pm, with maybe 50 guys que'd at the front door. Nothing like that yesterday.

Lately in general, Saturday nights have been more crowded than Fridays, so the past not a guide to tonight. And this post probably will not help things. But RBs guess is it won't be too bad, with a mighty fine lineup.

[ExcitedNoob]

Hi- I believe the girls would agree we are "find" gentlemen. To your Q's:Doh! Need to check my spelling! Thank you for the information, I very much appreciate it.


Just in passing, the idea of rejecting a girl, as a test to see if she is worthy is, to put it diplomatically, idiotic, as I have said before. Just imagine how you would feel. No matter how experienced, having sex with a total stranger has enough uncertainties as it is, and you really don't need to introduce mind games into the stew. These girls will rather obviously be more comfortable with someone who is a straight-shooter, fun, and appreciative. You just need to chat and feel a good vibe and it is quite simple. If you just take your time it will be quite clear whom to choose. A modicum of respect goes a long way. One linguistic issue is real - make sure you are comfortable talking and understanding her fully, and that she and you are clear about what to expect before going to a room.Roger that, I'll just be my charming self and simply relax, chat with the girls, and feel out the vibe; great advice.

Great to know many people speak English, that was my biggest concern; I'm even more excited to get there now. Perhaps I'll take your advice and get at least two sample points, I'm really not interested in the conference and a Wednesday Friday visit may be in order. Will keep you guys posted on my visit (s), thanks again!

[Rocketboy0]

In the interest of science, RB made an additional data collection pass by on Saturday. Arrived around 5 pm, It was indeed more crowded, but again, not unbearable. Had last very relaxed session around 9 and no wait for room, outside, with the delectable Debbie aus DE (sehr recommended; she could write a GFE instruction manual). Left about 11 pm when lots of computer nerds were piling in. It likely went over the top soon thereafter. Anyway the worst of the IFA is over, and there should still be good lineup this week.

[Kimino]

Debbie aus DE (sehr recommended; she could write a GFE instruction manual).And possibly force some of the other girls to at least read it LOL.

Kimino.

[Blue Swede]

I have to agree to the view from RB, Friday was slowest IFA-Friday I have seen (I think), but Saturday "boiled up" as time went on, as ususal. .

As always, I did what I mainly was there for first and then watched the scene, sometimes very amusing!

Both Fri and Sat, I went early, left 3 pm for some schnitzel and beer and came back at 7-8 pm.

T mention, I am a big fan of BJ, so that is my treat.

First encounter was Emilia, from Dortmund, a very sweet girl! She must have read most of the chapters in the mentioned manual.

Later, I took a session with Solida, very talented BJ in my book! Really exactly how I like it. Receiving BJ from her also have other upsides compared to other forms of sex, you guys knowing he, know what I mean. .

She is a really funny girl, a bit crazy, as myself!

Saturday started with a session with Nina, no comments needed.

Later, I spent a lot of time browsing without being able to decide who to go with (the curse in having too many choices), so finally I went for another round with Solida.

And yes, I spent some time at the IFA-messe as well! .

[BoniFun]

Just in passing, the idea of rejecting a girl, as a test to see if she is worthy is, to put it diplomatically, idiotic, as I have said before.I think it was me that posted this first, and it was not my intention at all to play any mind games with the girls.

I just posted it because it have helped me (unintentionally) quite a few times, and again, it's nothing I use to play any games. First time it was opposite, I turned a girl that approached me down a couple of times, because she was not my type. Not in any way disrespectfully. When she tried the third time with the same big smile (And she remembered being turned down earlier the same day) I decided to go with her anyway, and had a really great time.

My second experience with this was also something that was not intended, as I was approach by this girl which is really my type. She came straight up to me and asked if we should go to a room, even without introducing herself. Just coming down from upstairs, I told her "Sorry, but I was just upstairs, but maybe later tonight? When her answer was "Maybe never" and she turned her back on me. Well, I'll just say I didn't go with her regardless what I thought of her looks.

Thanks for all you're great reports Rocketboy0.

[BoniFun]

I picked up six pills for 30 EUR the day before at a sex shop. The shop owner spoke really good English and seemed genuinely concerned about me not overdosing on the shit and giving myself a heart attack.Thanks for the tip! I'll see if I can visit the shop near Zoological Garden Station (Is it at the Beate Uhse meseum? I seem to remember it being a sex shop there?

[Didi Vise]

She is back in Artemis, I had a very good session with her.


Maybe she is come back today from holiday. If someone see her please tell me on this forum. Thanks.

[Simon Rex]

What do you think about the 9 year celebrations at the Art on the 2nd of October? I heard a lot of girls talking about it almost promoting it.

[Rocketboy0]

What do you think about the 9 year celebrations at the Art on the 2nd of October? I heard a lot of girls talking about it almost promoting it.Well ah-they work there.

It is a different atmosphere: girls may dress (for a while anyway) in evening gowns which has the odd effect of making some more plain lookers glamourous, and it can also reveal the horrific fashion tastes of some of the hotties. There is lots of very good food (a huge ox steer turns on an open grill spit), free beer, sometimes a live band, fireworks at the end. Many guests are friends of the owners, and many just hang for the party vs actually zimmering, which gives it a different feel. Some girls are actually of a mixed mind on all this, between the beer effects and so so earnings. Not better or worse-just different.

[WarmStone25]

I picked up six pills for 30 EUR the day before at a sex shop. The shop owner spoke really good English and seemed genuinely concerned about me not overdosing on the shit and giving myself a heart attack. As he explained to me, in Germany you need a prescription for boner pills, so selling me the pills isn't illegal but also not exactly legal, definitely a lot of grey area. For this reason, I'm a little hesitant to disclose the exact location of his shop, but I will say it was in a different part of Berlin and not close to Artemis. I don't have a paid membership, so I am not able to PM you the location. However, I assume you would be able to pick up these pills at any regular sex shop. I know there is one near the Zoological Garden Station. Just ask for Powertab.

The pills definitely work. The extra kick they give is great when you're screwing multiple times at a place like Artemis.

If caught by the police with the pills without a prescription I assume it isn't that big a deal because they're not illegal drugs, however I'm no German law expert so don't take my word for it. The shop owner gave me some great advice about putting the pills in my checked luggage at the airport. This saved my ass because the security search to board a plane at Tegel was more intrusive than anything I've experienced in the US. They did everything but stick a finger up my ass. I'm sure if I went through security and they found the pills in my possession, I would have had some explaining to do.How do you know that the pills are the real thing? I did a google search and found Powertabs pills which were described as being made from herbs.

[Rocketboy0]

I did a google search and found Powertabs pills which were described as being made from herbs.I need a Powertab just to reread everyone copying full quoted entries when just a sentence will do.

Obviously all this quasi illegal drug stuff is dodgey. Probably from one of LSD sex shops near beüllowstr. Or Adenauerpltz.

[Buck Rogers]

sometimes a live band,I've heard rumours that Coldplay or The Killers or some other great band might attend.

If it'll turn out not to be true, I guess the interest will be 99,99% about the sex.

Cheers.

[Rocketboy0]

I've heard rumours that Coldplay or The Killers or some other great band might attend. Well Bucko, only because it is you, I will repeat what I was told in confidence:

It will actually be U2.

Their new album on those dinky Apple Watches is not so great, so they have agreed to pump it up in Artemis.

The plan is for Bono to take 50 Powertabs, so he can become Boner, for the night.

[FiddyCent]

Well Bucko, only because it is you, I will repeat what I was told in confidence:

It will actually be U2.

Their new album on those dinky Apple Watches is not so great, so they have agreed to pump it up in Artemis.

The plan is for Bono to take 50 Powertabs, so he can become Boner, for the night.Hello Rocketboy0.

Sting has been known to visit German brothels. Justin Bieber likes to go to Termas.

FiddyCent.

[Diddle]

Went around 4 PM arrived and walked around. Only about 25-30 girls at the time of arrival. Saw some German girls had one. Around 8-9 more girls showed up and lots of guys from IFA. I'd say there were about 50-70 girls and maybe 200 guys. Definitely no shortage of women, lots were sitting around the main bar area in groups of 3-5 smoking, legs spread, talking, etc.

Best one for me that night was a Bulgarian with glasses. She was petite, skinny, tan with big silicon tits. Lots of kissing and deep penetrating. Don't remember her name.

If anyone has bad experiences at a place like Artemis just try talking to the girl about what you like before you go to the room. I asked one or two German girls about kissing and they said "no" so I said no thank you and moved on. The line up was big enough for me not to take a chance and have a bad experience.

[Rocketboy0]

Saw some German girls had one.... Best one for me that night was a Bulgarian with glasses. Don't remember her name.Can't wait for the movie. And women sitting at the bar, talking and smoking - who'd a thunk it?

The Bulgarian is Samantha and she is very nice. But really, as has been said many times here, if you cannot remember names, there is almost no point in posting. That the line up was good in the past is not really helpful, and pros and cons of talking with girls before zimmering has been discussed 1 Gadzillion times. Sorry but this kind of la dee da stuff is slowly strangling the thread.

[KekuKuke]

I will be in Berlin on 13, 14 and 15 Sept. If anyone is in the area, please PM me.

What would be a good day to visit Artemis? Will that be Saturday (13-Sept.), Sunday or Monday? Please suggest. Very short time left to RTFF and find out.

Thank you

[Rocketboy0]

What would be a good day to visit Artemis? Will that be Saturday (13-Sept.), Sunday or Monday? Please suggest. Very short time left to RTFF and find out. As has been said a zillion times as in RTFF, Saturday the busiest night, lots of girls. Sun-Monday quieter, less girls. Your choice. Or do it twice and compare in the interest of science.

[RempNobbes]

I heard that Anetta should be back this weekend. Does anyone see her? Thanks and cheers. RM.

[Member #4347]

The afternoon was paradise for me. Most of my favorite girls present and only a few guys. Had a great time with Aylin, Xenia and Nadja until midnight when I had already spent a lot of both cash and cum.

During the late evening as usual lots of new punters arrived and it got a little too crowded so I left after what has been a great hour with one of my favorite girls. I spotted two presumably new girls, from the looks I would say Romanians without any spectacular feats at least nothing I could remember. Chayenne, Leura and some other women I love a lot I had to postpone until next time since I had been already drained and I usually don't pay a woman just for speaking to her except for the skilled lawyers, tax consultants and such. Vegas was absent by the way and I was pleased to see Romanian beauty Misha again even if I had to postpone that little adventure as well.

Cheers,

Diplomat

[WarmStone25]

I need a Powertab.This subject should be discussed in the Special Interests Forum. It is a wonder that we did not get a rocket for this.

[Nr 71]

Lucky me is probably given the chance to go to Artemis once more this fall.

Can't wait to go there again in about a month.

When I visited in August I saw a very nice brunette with curled hair and wearing glasses. Probably in her 30's. Anyone know her name? If you know who I mean, can you also please tell if she is good or not? Can't find her on the home site.

[ExcitedNoob]

Hey guys, if you recall I was visiting Berlin for a conference that I wasn't too keen on attending, and asked a couple of questions which were answered very well. I wasn't sure to go Wednesday or Friday so I totally went both days. Wednesday was pretty great, I'll admit I was a bit nervous about the whole ordeal, but very excited. When I arrived, it was really easy to get there, it was about 1 PM and I was greeted by a friendly woman at the front desk who explained the rules to me, gave me my robe and key, and then winked at me and told me to have a good time. The first thing I did was walk around for a little while, with a stupid grin on my face. I went up to the smoking bar area and ordered a coffee and before it was even given to me a beautiful blond German woman walked up to me and started asking where I was from and if it was my first time. She totally knew I as a noob at these types of things and definitely used that to her advantage, in retrospect I should have took my time a bit more but I really didn't mind I was too excited and thought what the hell. Before I could even finish half my coffee we were up in a room, and as this was my first time I just wanted the normal BJ and sex, it was pretty great with many positions but I couldn't cum. I was hard as a rock, but my mind kept trying to digest the situation and I couldn't focus. No worries though, I payed her and gave a tip for trying (she tried pretty hard to make me cum), showered up, and went to the pool area to collect my thoughts.

After a little nap, I went back to the main bar area and just ogled the ladies for a bit, then was approached by a sexy mink Turkish woman, we talked for a little bit but I explained that I was still trying to take in the scene and that perhaps later would be a better time. This fucking sexy redhead woman with straight bangs (who looks almost exactly like Marie McCray) came up to me after a little while and I told her I was going to have a drink to calm my nerves before I took another room. LOL, then less than a minute later the Turkish woman came back and I was like fuck it let's do it. I felt sort of bad because the redheaded woman saw the whole thing and I felt her staring at me as we walked past her to get a room. This woman was god damn gorgeous and she fucked really well, she deep throat me and I opted for the CIM addition; it felt amazing. After that I was tired, and I felt like going home.

Friday was better than Wednesday, I was in better spirits and felt like I knew the system much better after being able to sleep on the previous visit. After another very polite greeting into the building, I donned the robe and headed straight down the stairs to the pool area to lay down before any action took place. Right as I got to the base of the stairs the redhead from the previous visit stopped me and confronted me about the exchange we had. Her: "so you needed a drink huh? I saw you walk away with that small girl (she was holding up her pinky finger when she said that" Me: "uhh, well I had talked to her a bit earlier and you know one thing led to another" Her: "well I hope you come to you senses this evening" We chatted for a bit more and I went to go lay down at the pool. I kept thinking about her and how much I wanted to fuck her at that point, so I went to go find her and boy I should have definitely fucked her on the previous visit. She was awesome and really energetic as she sat atop me and fucked me hard; I opted for anal and came then fucked for a bit longer. Her asshole was so tight and she just felt really good all over; I also really liked how she stared into my eyes the whole time. She had a really bubbly personality and I think our personalities were a good match which made the fucking even more awesome. After that we chatted for a bit and I went back to the pool area to re-charge and kept thinking about how great it would be to fuck her tits the whole time. I woke up from a nap and there she was staring at me in the pool area, I was a bit startled and she said we need to fuck again and I was more than willing to comply. We went back up, she gave me a really great blow job, road me with a lot of energy, and then laid on her back while I fucked the living shit out her tits, and came all over her. It was a great ending to a great visit in Berlin!

I do apologize that I cannot remember any of the names of the women I was with. I really tried to remember them but just couldn't do it. They will be remembered as the blond German woman, the sexy mink Turkish woman, and the Czech woman that looked like Marie McCray and who was a great joy to fuck.

Thanks again for answering my questions, if you think you know any of the names to the women I would be interested in reading your response. The Turkish woman was petite with long wavy dark brown hair, the blond German woman was tall with short blond hair, and the Marie McCray looking woman had reddish-brown hair, straight bangs, and a tattoo that occupied a good portion of her upper back. I'll have to thank my boss for sending me on the trip, the next time I see him!

[Rocketboy0]

They will be remembered as the blond German woman, the sexy mink Turkish woman, and the Czech woman that looked like Marie McCray and who was a great joy to fuck.Glad you enjoyed it but it is somewhat pointless to write all this "Letters to Penthouse" stuff without names. And then expecting us to start some sort of guessing game which can go on and on? Otherwise, the post becomes just about you and your anonymous exploits.

This is public forum where people exchange info to learn what is good and not, and it is meant to be helpful to others, not just some sort of diary. You are a newb so once, ok. But over 2 days, not one name? Really.

Please, all you new posters, keep a small piece of paper in your locker and after a session, just write down the bloody names after a session, before your endomorphine-soaked mind blanks out all. It's not that difficult. It is the one small way you give something back to the forum, which has helped you.

[Dr Cornelius]

How do you know that the pills are the real thing? I did a google search and found Powertabs pills which were described as being made from herbs.I honestly don't know what was in them; all I can say is that they sure worked for me. Shop owner said 75% Viagra /25% Cialis, and he seemed like an honest dude. Only other similar product I've ever used was Kamagra oral jelly in Thailand, and these Powertabs were quite a bit stronger than that.

[Dr Cornelius]

Towards the end of my night at Artemis, when I was hanging out in the lounge, all fucked out and out of money, I still had girls coming up to me engaging me in flirty conversation. I was being friendly, but made it known quickly that I would not be going upstairs again. One of the girls stuck by me for a while, just chatting. She asked me how many times I had been up to the private rooms, and when I told her 4 times, she said she didn't believe me. I asked her, what's the most number of times she's heard of one guy going upstairs with a different girl in one day. She told me there was one guy who once took 19 girls upstairs in one day. She said, he would go upstairs, cum about 2 seconds after penetrating, then come back downstairs to find a new girl. Apparently he could get it up and cum like flipping a light-switch. I said that's pretty odd, but also strangely impressive. He must have been popping powertabs like tic-tacs.

[DethManRulz]

Glad you enjoyed it but it is somewhat pointless to write all this "Letters to Penthouse" stuff without names. And then expecting us to start some sort of guessing game which can go on and on? Otherwise, the post becomes just about you and your anonymous exploits.

This is public forum where people exchange info to learn what is good and not, and it is meant to be helpful to others, not just some sort of diary. You are a newb so once, ok. But over 2 days, not one name? Really.

Please, all you new posters, keep a small piece of paper in your locker and after a session, just write down the bloody names after a session, before your endomorphine-soaked mind blanks out all. It's not that difficult. It is the one small way you give something back to the forum, which has helped you.On the other hand he did at least apologize for not providing names. Obviously he should have remembered some names, but alas.

For people who don't have easy access to to FKK's it's still nice to read about the person's overall experience in the place, even without names.

So, I enjoyed reading his post.

[Rocketboy0]

She told me there was one guy who once took 19 girls upstairs in one day. She said, he would go upstairs, cum about 2 seconds after penetrating, then come back downstairs to find a new girl. Apparently he could get it up and cum like flipping a light-switch. I said that's pretty odd, but also strangely impressive. .Not at all, just a typical day for me. I would have stayed longer but Elvis was waiting in the Mothership and we had to get going before the wormhole snapped shut.

[Nr 71]

Glad you enjoyed it but it is somewhat pointless to write all this "Letters to Penthouse" stuff without names. And then expecting us to start some sort of guessing game which can go on and on? Otherwise, the post becomes just about you and your anonymous exploits.

This is public forum where people exchange info to learn what is good and not, and it is meant to be helpful to others, not just some sort of diary. You are a newb so once, ok. But over 2 days, not one name? Really.

Please, all you new posters, keep a small piece of paper in your locker and after a session, just write down the bloody names after a session, before your endomorphine-soaked mind blanks out all. It's not that difficult. It is the one small way you give something back to the forum, which has helped you.I agree with RB.

It's nice to read the stories, but it is really important to remember the names.

I have got many, many good tips on this forum, which I appreciate very much.

The last thing I can do to sort of pay back is to manage to remmber 3-4 names.

Too bad we can't post pics, would have done this much easier if we could put on pics from the Artemis-site.

[Pulani]

I have been 3 times to Berlin now, and paid 8-10 visits to Artemis.

This time I had 2 visits and went upstairs with 6 or 7 girls during my stay.

No one did DFK, just one girl let me kiss her "light".

It has not been like this before. Anyone else had the same experience?

Went upstairs with a girl which claimed that DATY only was allowed if I paid for extras.

Rules in Artemis

"Just ask the reception" she said. Didn't want to argue with a boner, but agreed on CIM so then was no problem in this case. Anyway, I got to DATY the other girls I went upstairs with.

Didn't ask the reception about the rules, and the website just say 'FO and Intercourse'.

Anyone?

[Pulani]

After 8 or 10 visits to Artemis, I have to share a couple of my favourites.

The first one I met I March this year. It is Gabriella from Poland. She's about 26-27 years.

If I not wrong. Dark hair, slim body but silicon-boobs. No rush with her in the room, and her personality is just absolutely wonderful. Sadly she wasn't working last weekend.

The second one I met Saturday 13th September. It is Kathy / Kati from Bulgaria. Age. ?

Hmmm. Didn't ask her but about 23 I would guess. Blond, not that very tall and natural boobs.

Also no rush with her in the room, and a wonderful personality.

Looks a bit like Shakira I told her. "Yes, people say that about me" was her reply.

Although I have met many nice girls in Artemis, these two make me feel like a snowball in the hot sun.

Your personal favourites anyone?

[WarmStone25]

This is public forum where people exchange info to learn what is good and not, and it is meant to be helpful to others,

Please, all you new posters, keep a small piece of paper in your locker.I enjoyed reading the report. It may be of interest to those with relatively less experience at Artemis. I put the names of the girls in my mobile phone. Names make the report potentially more useful. For example if you got a girl with smelly feet the other guys would want to avoid this. Using bad language lowers the tone of the thread.

[Member #4347]

I understand nobody likes to be criticized or patronized. In fact I think ExitedNoob put together a nice personal report and I enjoyed reading it. However I was a little surprised when he didn't include a single name in his report even though this may rather be the most important single point stressed by many of us. Having to guess a girls name may be a futile thing to do since there is more than one redhead, blonde, slim, tall, skinny, tattooed or natural beauty around.

So not against ExitedNoob but as a reminder to everyone reading and writing here: Keeping a little sheet of paper in the locker or just using your cellphone to memorize a girl's name and country of origin is what everyone should and can do without much effort.

On a personal note, I wasn't sure what to think about RB's way of saying things in the beginning. After I had taken a little pounding of his sarcasm myself my response was censored which was a little surprising to me back then. However, shortly after that I found out how refreshing and entertaining those posts are most of the time. At even when you don't feel entertained you can still put the information to good use.

Cheers,

Diplomat

[Mr Ho]

I understand nobody likes to be criticized or patronized. In fact I think ExitedNoob put together a nice personal report and I enjoyed reading it. However I was a little surprised when he didn't include a single name in his report even though this may rather be the most important single point stressed by many of us. Having to guess a girls name may be a futile thing to do since there is more than one redhead, blonde, slim, tall, skinny, tattooed or natural beauty around.

So not against ExitedNoob but as a reminder to everyone reading and writing here: Keeping a little sheet of paper in the locker or just using your cellphone to memorize a girl's name and country of origin is what everyone should and can do without much effort.

On a personal note, I wasn't sure what to think about RB's way of saying things in the beginning. After I had taken a little pounding of his sarcasm myself my response was censored which was a little surprising to me back then. However, shortly after that I found out how refreshing and entertaining those posts are most of the time. At even when you don't feel entertained you can still put the information to good use.

Cheers,

DiplomatI think as long as people are not insulting others whether it is people who post things on forum or girls or whoever it is all cool, but I feel the forum should be free and liberal to certain extent and we have Jackson to police around the forum, so there is no need to evaluate or criticize other peoples posts as long as it is insulting others and not remembering the name is not his fault.

I believe in freedom of forum and I thank him for taking time to write good report even without name of girls. If one do not like it, just skip it and don't read it. We have Jackson to police the forum and we do not need more I think.

[Kimino]

Went upstairs with a girl which claimed that DATY only was allowed if I paid for extras.

Rules in Artemis

"Just ask the reception" she said. Didn't want to argue with a boner, but agreed on CIM so then was no problem in this case. Anyway, I got to DATY the other girls I went upstairs with.

Didn't ask the reception about the rules, and the website just say 'FO and Intercourse'.

Anyone?Ciao Pulani.

It's complete bs and happened the same to me with a german / colombian girl, with which I'll never repeat again, although the session wasn't bad.

Every girl is obviously free to decide to allow daty or not, same with dfk or whatever is not strictly "standard" suck and fuck. DFK not my cup of tea but don't remember any girl ever refusing daty.

What is intolerable is to use daty to upsell other extras or extended time. A good way to avoid this as RB has pointed out many times, is to ask this before going to the room. Thing I never do, but makes great sense.

Kimino.

[Buck Rogers]

In 100+ encounters, I think I was told no to DATY once (this year) and maybe another time years ago. So pretty rare. I never encountered the upsell / extra thing for it though, I think it would be worse.

Suck&Fuck seems more a thing of a red light district, but of course nobody can't force daty, even though we generally expect a minimum of service.

Well if not, I have wasted 60 eur I won't cry over, I save the pop, and I am ready right away for another girl.
When this happened, the (gladly very few) bad service providers were surprised like:"Why you won't come?" Well saving it for better times.

DFK, I am not a great fan, doing a bit with some favourites, but the chance might be 50% or lower but there are people here that have probably more accurate statistics on this.

Since DATY is generally expected and DFK not important to me, and I won't spend 100 eur for anal, talking with a girl is for me more of a way to try to understand the general feeling / attitude than what she does or not.

[Breadman]

Many girls working last night for the Messe crowd that never came in the rush they'd hoped for. Many girls could be seen being taken to the front desk over pricing, one girl getting pretty well scolded by the bouncer. Even my favorite who knows I'm strictly a 50 euro guy started asking me why I wouldn't do extras (once you start, they'll expect it every time).

Long blonde hair Marie caught my eye last week, finally had the chance to grab her. Nice small be's, killer body, easily a 9. Kept her for the entire hour, an amazing fuck. She asked for a tip which wasn't going to happen, said I'd see her next visit. Will see if she plays happy to see me or ignores me.

[Charlie 123]

Hi, especially to old friends with whom I haven't corresponded for some time.

Made my return to Artemis a fortnight ago after a 2 year absence and met up with Kimino and Rocketboy, and also bumped into Nebula. A pleasure to see them all again.

Sessioned with 3 girls. Only one was memorable. Christina (ROM), mid 20's, very thin, medium height, straight dark hair, dark skin, angular face, very small tits, pretty, terrific figure (if you like that sort of thing, which I by no means always do).

Actually went with her twice, on consecutive days. Definite connection on the first, brief session and consummated fully on the 2nd occasion. Chatty (speaks good English), good kisser, nice BJ, passionate and sexually excitable, excellent GFE.

Recommended.

Never really did ratings in my previous incarnation on this board, but I'm going to initiate a scoring system by giving Christina 7. 5/10 (for service only, looks are just too subjective to be rated).

Back tomorrow, hoping to meet up with some of the chaps.

C123.

[Charlie 123]

Just in passing, the idea of rejecting a girl, as a test to see if she is worthy is, to put it diplomatically, idiotic, as I have said before. As stated, of course you're right.

But the poster's point is very valid in my view, and it is actually a concept I inherited from the great Angus M himself. He observed that the manner in which a girl responds to a polite rejection can be a good indicator of both her nature and her approach to service.

Think about it, how many times has one reluctantly turned away a stunner only to see her face turn into an ugly scowl as she storms off in a huff, and don't you always breath a sigh of relief and feel that you dodged a bullet there?

And by the same token, a girl who smiles sweetly and bids you a fun evening anyway, don't you often think 'Shit, maybe I should've gone with her'?

Well, I think one's intuitions are reliable in those situations, and whilst I also wouldn't advocate a strategy based on telling girls to fuck off so you can judge how well they take it, I do think the original poster was passing on a useful tip.


C123

[Kimino]

Back tomorrow, hoping to meet up with some of the chaps.

C123.We will have fun! See you tomorrow.

Kimino.

[Rocketboy0]

I think one's intuitions are reliable in those situations, and whilst I also wouldn't advocate a strategy based on telling girls to fuck off so you can judge how well they take it, I do think the original poster was passing on a useful tip.C123Well amigo, we shall just politely disagree on this. Rejection and what follows will trigger a variety of behaviours and it involves so many variables and moods that it is hardly a reliable guide to someone's "nature". That "nature" itself very much also a function of mutual chemistry-some people you click with and some you don't. I know my own reaction to rejection, whether in business or on special ops at Artemis varies all over the place, depending upon the context and the moment. I just don't think really seeing how a girl reacts to being told nyet is anything more than a momentary data point. It is a bit of information, and without understanding the full context, it is simply not a reliable guide to predicting anything. And this is just drawing upon a "normal" rejection observation; to deliberately reject a girl to see the reaction, which was suggested as a "tip" at one point, makes even less sense.

The nature of how we reject plays a huge role in this-the oafish, silent, curt dismissal via waving the hand away, or shaking the head, vs the polite "look, you are very attractive but I am really sorry but just not now" etc. And at times, even some of my steady favs have been mildly miffed when I would not muff. It was surprising as we both know we get on well, and have done so for years. Maybe they were just having a bad day, lots of rejections by scruffy men, their investments were tanking, their new designer shoes were not fitting right, business was slow, whatever. The next time, all was hunky dory. I don't think I am climbing way out on a limb to say women are moodier than men folk, and as any one who has been in a long-term relationship would say, things change....all the time. Just way too many variables at play, on both sides, to conclude anything reliable.

Not to bang on about this (as the danger of over-thinking all this is real), but there is also a flip side to the coin. On rare occasion, I have talked with (for me) a "new" girl and everything was just problematic, almost combative, and all the verbal signals were flashing danger Will Robinson. And yet, overcome with pure lust, I just thought well who cares, let's go, and the session was fantastic. At the end when lying in bed together after the fluids had flown, I would mention how odd our first contact was, she would reply, well that was just before I "knew" you. Predicting chemistry is a black art and rules to improve the odds are probably limited or doomed. At the critical moment, you just have to go with your gut. (By the way, also on occasion this "gut" strategy has blown up in my face and wallet). You just never really know, til the thin lady purrs.

Anyway, welcome back to the village of the damned, and happy hunting.

[Frozty]

Today was my first visit to Artemis in three months. I made my first visit to some of the Frankfurt clubs during July and I wondered how I would feel back at my usual place.

I felt good. I enjoyed the outside space at Sharks, but for everything else Artemis is tops.

It seemed to me that the line up had changed quite a bit over the summer. Lots of familiar faces, but many more that I didn't recognise. It may be because I am usually a Monday / Tuesday visitor. I asked Fatima "what's new?" and she said that she now has to tell the Boss her schedule in advance. It seems that the number of girls has increased, and consequently girls are required to book in.

I arrived soon after 11. The weather was great so I spent some time outside. The pool was too warm to be refreshing. Not sure if it's heated, but it felt like swimming in a bath. I wanted it refreshingly cold, so was disappointed. I also tried the steam room.

I caught up with Fatima when she arrived at 1, and we had a long catch up before heading for a room.

I spent quite a while relaxing in the main lounge. I usually prefer it downstairs, but I was keen to review the line up. I was reading, on and off, and nobody bothered me for a while. After 3 pm or so, it was a fairly constant procession of enquiries. What struck me was how friendly the girls were. Much more so than my experiences in Frankfurt. I turned down a lot of girls, and all took it with a smile.

Two blondes had attracted me, Nella (I think) and Roomi (sp?) and I resolved to find one of them for my next session. I don't usually have much success with Blondes, but I was determined to find one to add to my list of repeaters. I found Roomi, and took her upstairs.

I hadn't seen her before and she explained that she has only been at the club for two months. A native of Berlin, she was very sweet. And very sexy. Another one hour session, and although she prefers not to kiss, I will definitely repeat. A great blow job, daty, and cow girl. The chemistry was good and I think kissing will come in the future.

I didn't want another session so I relaxed downstairs. I met a few more girls, and was struck by the change in Valesca. The timid girl that I remembered seems to have become very confident girl. I will try and find her on my next visit.

I was approached by a slightly heavy brunette, and we chatted for a while. I told her that I was done for the day, but she didn't give up. I asked her name. Nicole. Nicole from Prague? I asked. It was. So, I told her that we had met before, and that we hadn't got on very well. She didn't remember, so I recounted how I had walked after 10 minutes due to repeated attempts to upsell to anal. To her credit, she took my comment in good spirit and still tried to convince me to go with her! She was bigger than I remember, but still looked good.

I had some dinner, which was an acceptable bolognaise, washed up and left.

I am back for a two day visit in mid October, when I hope to try a few more of the new faces.

[Frozty]

I've just done a little research, and it looks as if I dodged a bullet with Nella.

[Nr 71]

Probably a stupid question, but how do you find out who is who?

If I I. E. Am looking for Nella, is there a way to find her?

Is it OK to ask the bar-keepers? Do they know the girls?

[Kimino]

Nice meetup yesterday with Charlie123, Rocketboy, Buck Rogers and others. Thanks guys!

Day started really slow but the vibe went up during the day, never crowded.

Went with Jay Jay (that's how it sounds but I know the spelling is very different). Iranian but born and living in Berlin. 21 yo, long black hair, quite petite, brown eyes, piercing in upper lip (if I remember correctly). Looks really young. Wearing a red rose in her hair. Could remember Amy Winehouse, at least that's what crossed my mind. Anyway, exquiste girl, will definitely repeat.

Then spent over an hour with Viola. Russian, black hair, pony tail. Reported her many times. She was particularly hot yesterday, had great fun. She is leaving for a couple of weeks.

Had another session with Gabriella, Polish, blonde long hair, late twenties (at least). I like the girl and we find chemistry but probably not the best performer, or maybe my fault.

Closed the dances with Sissy, yes again. She is also leaving in a weeks time, coming back after 3 weeks If I understood correctly. She is consistently in my favourites. Also reported many times.

Don't know about the food as I was out for dinner but was told it was not bad.

[Charlie 123]

Hi.

Visited Thursday 17th and Friday 18th with Kimino, always a terrific guy to have at hand, and the person who probably has the most experience of the line-up at Artemis of all the people on this board.

There were about 10 girls present that I knew from the old days (2012 and earlier). I had a number of sessions with old faves about whom I've written on these pages many times before, so I'll ignore them for the purposes of this report with the exception of an honourable mention for Gabicza (HUN) who produced an epic performance to celebrate our reunion after 2 years.

Katarina (BUL) mid / late 20, tall, dark hair, tiny tits but not especially slender, full arse, good BJ, light kissing. Decent starter session to kick off the days activities but prob no repeat for me. 5. 0/10.

Alyna (ROM). 20's, 5'5', dark hair cut quite short, very pretty, perky silicon tits (look natural, best boob job I've seen) , first day in Artemis, light kissing, nice 69, quite into it, great cowgirl to finish. May repeat. 6. 5/10.

Zoe (DE). Unmistakeable, bright long purple hair and masses of tattoos, tall, tanned and toned, hot-looking girl with a fun smile. Decent session but no special connection, the CiF explosion she was shrieking for whilst I was fucking her turned into a CiM let-down. I have a faint intuition that somebody else might make a better connection with her and have a good time. 5. 5/10.

C123.

[Member #4347]

Good line up yesterday with a few of my favorite girls like Szoey, Nadja and Jenna present and also a few familiar faces among the fellow punters who I was happy to see and to have a few short talks with.

Kitty's sister Tiffany there, slim German brunette and still a little shy since she is new to the FKK club scene. I know them both for some time now but I cannot really recommend them.

Sarai a brunette German with Eastern Europe roots. E-Cup Boobs are nicely done, proportional to her great hot body. More a PSE than GFE. She knows how to challenge you in a conversation which I found quite refreshing as well as her talents in the room. Great deep sucking, can take a pounding. No real DFK for me. Still I would say it was money well spent, however I am not sure if I will repeat since I have more than a few favorites who I already have a great chemistry with.

I was a little surprised about German Nika and Austrian Lulu not being allowed to work at Artemis any more. I found them both highly attractive and despite the fact I have only zimmered them twice in a year they have been always nice and warm towards me. And since I like shark whispering as much as RB sometimes does I will miss them.

Speaking about missing women, I hope German Ukrainian Cheyenne aka Anne Hathaway will be back soon too. Fact is she has been one of the most interesting women around for me for months.

I spent a long time with a girl who is special for me. No need to go into details since she has already been described in this forum more than once by both me and a few of the other guys. However even if we should never forget we are still paying for the fun and the experiences we have there and in the end it will all just be a pleasant memory. But still we can have magic moments when you can forget all the stuff that turns you off and just enjoy that special connection. And that is what I did yesterday.

BTW, I am really sorry for that guy who was eating pussy when suddenly the door opened. I should know all the numbers and all the rooms and most of the girls by now but it still happens I take the wrong turn when going back to my gorgeous companion after a shower between sessions. But you know. At least we had a good long laugh that evening even when it was on my little misfortune.

Cheers,

Diplomat

[Frozty]

Probably a stupid question, but how do you find out who is who?

If I I. E. Am looking for Nella, is there a way to find her?

Is it OK to ask the bar-keepers? Do they know the girls?I've asked the bar staff on a couple of occasions, and they were happy to help. I've only tried during quiet times, as I suspect they will be less keen when it is busy.

I've never asked other girls; unless I know them very well.

[Rocketboy0]

I was a little surprised about German Nika and Austrian Lulu not being allowed to work at Artemis any more. I found them both highly attractive and despite the fact I have only zimmered them twice in a year they have been always nice and warm towards me. And since I like shark whispering as much as RB sometimes does I will miss them.Herr D, this was indeed somewhat shocking news. If this continues, we shall soon be able to venture out of the shark cage, and pull up the net. Strange doings in the Fick Fabrik.

[Aceh725]

I was a little surprised about German Nika and Austrian Lulu not being allowed to work at Artemis any more. I found them both highly attractive and despite the fact I have only zimmered them twice in a year they have been always nice and warm towards me. And since I like shark whispering as much as RB sometimes does I will miss them.

DiplomatEhm sorry about question but the news is real or a fake? Because I'm been with Lulu last Sunday and Monday and everythings seemed ok, Do you know what happened? I asked you because, like Kimino knows, Lulu is my prefer girl in Artemis, so in some way, this news touch me a little deep. Thanks in advance for any kind of informations.

[Member #4347]

Ehm sorry about question but the news is real or a fake? Because I'm been with Lulu last Sunday and Monday and everythings seemed ok, Do you know what happened? I asked you because, like Kimino knows, Lulu is my prefer girl in Artemis, so in some way, this news touch me a little deep. Thanks in advance for any kind of informations.Hi Aceh,

I am sorry but that is all I can say about the subject. I believe they had worked in other German FKK clubs before so maybe we will learn about their new workplace so that you can still meet them elsewhere.

[JonnieBoy]

Hi,

I'm going to visit Artemis for the first time next Saturday. To prepare I've been following this thread for a while. Thanks for all the great info and reports which I think will benefit me a lot. Hopefully I will be able to give something back in a report after my visit.

If anyone feels like meeting up for a chat at Artemis next Saturday please feel free to contact me.

Regards,

JonnieBoy

[DasBooty]

I banged her funbags past Friday (this was of course after she tried to sell me a threesome with her partner in crime Stella).

[Member #4347]

Ehm sorry about question but the news is real or a fake? Because I'm been with Lulu last Sunday and Monday and everythings seemed ok, Do you know what happened? I asked you because, like Kimino knows, Lulu is my prefer girl in Artemis, so in some way, this news touch me a little deep. Thanks in advance for any kind of informations.Of course its real. I do not post anything that is fake or false to my knowledge.

I am sorry Aceh I cannot disclose more on the subject. However since Nika and Lulu have been to other German FKK clubs it is likely they will eventually show up elsewhere and then you can meet your favorite girl again.

I don't know what happened to my last report. I posted it at least 10 hours ago so normally even I am used to it that my posts take hours to be shown here I am surprised. If it was deleted it would be nice to kindly notice me why.

[FiddyCent]

Of course its real. I do not post anything that is fake or false to my knowledge.

I am sorry Aceh I cannot disclose more on the subject. However since Nika and Lulu have been to other German FKK clubs it is likely they will eventually show up elsewhere and then you can meet your favorite girl again.

I don't know what happened to my last report. I posted it at least 10 hours ago so normally even I am used to it that my posts take hours to be shown here I am surprised. If it was deleted it would be nice to kindly notice me why.Hello Diplomat.

I have had the pleasure to have been with both of these girls. I was so looking forward to returning to Artemis for a repeat, but now I will have to find replacements. See'est la vie.

FiddyCent.

[Kimino]

I am sorry Aceh I cannot disclose more on the subject. However since Nika and Lulu have been to other German FKK clubs it is likely they will eventually show up elsewhere and then you can meet your favorite girl again.Met Lulu for the first time in Palace actually. But this means nothing. Don't know Nika very much but Lulu was always very friendly and had many sessions with her. For sure a Pro but a nice girl. Wherever she will go, wish her luck.

After Annika, now Lulu and Nika, this is the end of the German Sofa Group as we know it. Love it or leave it.

Kimino.

[FiddyCent]

Met Lulu for the first time in Palace actually. But this means nothing. Don't know Nika very much but Lulu was always very friendly and had many sessions with her. For sure a Pro but a nice girl. Wherever she will go, wish her luck.

After Annika, now Lulu and Nika, this is the end of the German Sofa Group as we know it. Love it or leave it.

Kimino.Hello Kimino.

Is Kitty still there? I met her as a blonde, but the last time I saw her, she was back to her natural brunette. I thought there were a few other German girls, namely Stella and a few others.

FiddyCent.

[Kimino]

Hello Kimino.

Is Kitty still there? I met her as a blonde, but the last time I saw her, she was back to her natural brunette. I thought there were a few other German girls, namely Stella and a few others.

FiddyCent.Ciao FiddyCent. There's a bunch of german girls in Artemis. Some great, some less, exactly like for the other nationalities. I was referring to a particular group of girls that used to hang around together in the past, just a joke.

Kimino.

[FiddyCent]

Ciao FiddyCent. There's a bunch of german girls in Artemis. Some great, some less, exactly like for the other nationalities. I was referring to a particular group of girls that used to hang around together in the past, just a joke.

Kimino.Hello Kimino.

I think I know what you mean. I plan to make a return to Artemis soon. I used to hang around that particular area of the bar just to spy on the German girls. The more things change, the more they stay the same. I might pick your brain to see who might be worth trying out. Hopefully, there will be some new girls to fill the void left behind by the departure of Nika and Lulu. Many thanks for the reply.

FiddyCent.

[Aceh725]

Of course its real. I do not post anything that is fake or false to my knowledge.
I am sorry Aceh I cannot disclose more on the subject. However since Nika and Lulu have been to other German FKK clubs it is likely they will eventually show up elsewhere and then you can meet your favorite girl again.
Thank you Diplomat and Kimino for the answer, sorry for my previous post, it seems that I put in doubt your words, only I was very surprised for what it happened. Like you Kimino, I know her since when she worked in Palace, so probably after this issues, she came back to this club. If somebody have occasion to see her in Palace or in another club, please let me know. Thanks.

[Kimino]

Hopefully, there will be some new girls to fill the void left behind by the departure of Nika and Lulu. Many thanks for the reply.

FiddyCent.Yep, I mean, lets not get carried out. LOL.

First, they are not dead, second all this story "could" be bs (total respect on what Diplomat says, but I tend to believe only what I see or hear directly), last but not least we are talking about 2 girls out of 100 and definitely not of the stars of Art (IMHO), so, not a big deal. Just go through the thread and you'll find plenty of suggestions to keep you busy for weeks.

Back to the reports.

Kimino.

[FiddyCent]

Yep, I mean, lets not get carried out. LOL.

First, they are not dead, second all this story "could" be bs (total respect on what Diplomat says, but I tend to believe only what I see or hear directly), last but not least we are talking about 2 girls out of 100 and definitely not of the stars of Art (IMHO), so, not a big deal. Just go through the thread and you'll find plenty of suggestions to keep you busy for weeks.

Back to the reports.

Kimino.True Kimino. They were not the best providers, but they were the best for PSE. Everything about them, their look, their swagger, and tattoos gave them that persona. The German Pornstar look. I'm sure there will be others that follow. I'll RTFF.

Danke!

FiddyCent.

[Rocketboy0]

Yep, I mean, lets not get carried out. LOL.This story "could" be bs (total respect on what Diplomat says, but I tend to believe only what I see or hear directly),Kimino.They gone.

Gone like the wind.

Confirmed. Lots of rumours why, nothing definite. And really the why (probably some abuse of either customers or fellow felines) does not matter; the result is the thing.

RB was never a fan; way too much engineering, too many tats, too many weird Abdul headgames, too PSE. I admit the later does nothing for me; if anything, feeling that cold detachment is a huge turnoff. However, if there is one takeaway from the wide diversity found at the Bahnhoff: everyone on both sides seems to find their niche, so RB accepts others can get off on the the challenge of the cyborg scene. And while Team Abdul has been gutted, a few still remain. Their habitat is more at or on the bar stools, while the main DE sofa gang is still doing what they do best, ie sitting on the sofas, and selling their too often soul-less service. Anyway, the Art Gallery never suffers from a shortage of pumped up porn princess PSE's, so the void can easily be filled. There are others who carry the ice queen torch more, but eg Zoe, Brigitta, and the more emotional Bella and, when she is there, Vegas (!!!), who are all IMHO even more attractive, and far nicer to be with.

Meanwhile, there are a fair number of interesting new recruits (finally), and like the late Russian regional governor Alexander Lebed once said, "The dogs bark, but the parade goes on". More than enough to keep busy. Debby (DE) kept me busy last night, and on the passionate GFE front, which helps RB fight off those pesky thoughts of existential angst, ich sage nur "Wow".

[Kimino]

True Kimino. They were not the best providers, but they were the best for PSE. Everything about them, their look, their swagger, and tattoos gave them that persona. The German Pornstar look. I'm sure there will be others that follow. I'll RTFF.

Danke!

FiddyCent.Yep, I see what you mean. I also like that look! And I would like a few more like that. Tall, tats, piercings, bitchy look, best for me on lingerie days. LOL.

Disneyland for adults.

Kimino.

[StarletVoyager]

Does anyone know if she is still regularly seen. Thanks.

[Excess]

They gone.

Gone like the wind.

Meanwhile, there are a fair number of interesting new recruits (finally), and like the late Russian regional governor Alexander Lebed once said, "The dogs bark, but the parade goes on". More than enough to keep busy. Debby (DE) kept me busy last night, and on the passionate GFE front, which helps RB fight off those pesky thoughts of existential angst, ich sage nur "Wow".Just checking for accuracy, RB, on your description of Debby (DE). That would be Wow as in "Great" and not Wow as in "Bow Wow", Ja?

E.

[FiddyCent]

Does anyone know if she is still regularly seen. Thanks.Hello StarletVoyager.

I was wondering the same thing. I think she was originally from Krakow, if I am not mistaken. I had a good 30 min with her a couple of years ago. Did not see her in 2013.

FiddyCent.

[Rocketboy0]

Just checking for accuracy, RB, on your description of Debby (DE). That would be Wow as in "Great" and not Wow as in "Bow Wow", Ja?E.Ja. I was the dog.

[Blover34]

Hi guys,

Just wanted to know if anyone been with her lately.

And if there is anyone that will hit the club soon.

I would like to pass her a massage thru someone of you.

Thanks in advance.

[DarkNumber]

Hi guys,

Just wanted to know if anyone been with her lately.

And if there is anyone that will hit the club soon.

I would like to pass her a massage thru someone of you.

Thanks in advance.Who are you talking about? I'll be visiting 5th of October.

[Pistons]

I am going back to Artemis in 3-4 weeks from now after having been away for half a year or so. How is the status quo with Juliette? Is she still only working in the weekends? (I will unfortunately only be at here at weekdays this time).

And is Carrie still going strong?

[Kimino]

I am going back to Artemis in 3-4 weeks from now after having been away for half a year or so. How is the status quo with Juliette? Is she still only working in the weekends? (I will unfortunately only be at here at weekdays this time).

And is Carrie still going strong?Juliette the russian girl, usually wearing stockings and gloves? If it's her I saw her a few times in the past months and it was always during weekdays, normally Friday nights.

Kimino.

[Blover34]

Who are you talking about? I'll be visiting 5th of October.I'm talking about heaven.

She's tall with an amazing! Body, one I can't forget and you don't think I will ever forget. She has a beautiful clean face and beside a tattoo on her down leg she's clean, Dark hair and usually wear glasses.

She's a girl of your dreams.

If you know the one I talk about than I'll be happy if you will tell her something from me.

[StarletVoyager]

Indeed polish hannah is a sultry musky cat oozing sex right out from between her very presence both in and outside of the infamous zimmers. I'm surprised you didn't see her I had two hour sessions and another threesome with her and her german friend 2012/13. I'm returning to artemis this December and if anyone has seen her recently can you let me know. I think her friend was megan.

[StarletVoyager]

Any news on the twins fernanda and valentina and czech lena would be gratefully received too!! i have not been to artemis for a year choosing instead vienna and frankfurt but now berlin is the destination.

[Pistons]

Yes, that's her. However I consider the weekend to be from Thursdays to Saturdays in my book, leaving the Friday well within the weekend. Which means weekdays will be Sundays till Wednesdays. Ever seen her on those days?


Juliette the russian girl, usually wearing stockings and gloves? If it's her I saw her a few times in the past months and it was always during weekdays, normally Friday nights.

Kimino.

[Ibrahimovic]

So my first visit to Artemis and I spent three consecutive days. I arrived on the Saturday at around 6:30 pm.

After exploring the facilities I entered the bar and felt a little bit overwhelmed and awkward in the crowded room so I halted just inside the doors. I started eying a very voluptuous ebony girl called Vanity from Barbados with kind of yellowish blonde hair. Since I didn't know what else to do with myself I approached her and we went upstairs right away. Vanity has a really wild body, very thin waist, a firm ass and huge tits that have a very natural feel to them. I felt quite comfortable with her and we started with kissing and then went on to BBBJ which was good. It was a heavenly experience to do her from behind caressing her bosom. Looks / body: 9. Service 7. 5.

She was probably the girl I came across in Artemis that spoke the best English (which of course is natural considering her origin) making the conversation feel a little bit more vivid. Going downstairs I was so satisfied I totally forgot it was time to pay and had my mind set on taking a shower when she asked where I had my things. That could have gotten embarrassing but I don't think she noticed my absent mind.

After having a have a chat with a fellow countryman in the bar I had my eye on a blonde girl sitting in one of the couches with a little bit of a porn star look, Alexis from Berlin. To have some PSE was one of my motives to visit Artemis so we decided to go upstairs for 30 min. When we got upstairs and sat down to wait for a room the atmosphere changed and she got quite apathetic. Looking at another direction and barely responding to questions. Accordingly, in the room she proved to be a disappointment. Did not allow DATY since that is not part of normal sex according to her. Lying lifeless like a cold fish during sex. Looks / body: 7. Service 2.

Third session was with Angel from Nigeria that I met leaving the relax area. Being an ebony admirer I could not resist despite her not being all that hot. She's got fairly big natural tits and a little more meet than most other girls. She suggested a room in the Kino but I preferred to go upstairs. In contrast to Alexis, this girl at least was quite lively and fun to talk with. Regrettably the action in the room was a let down. She put her hand around her pussy to interfere with the penetration and didn't really respond to my protest. I fucked her in a few positions to find out if it would get better but lost all interest in finishing. Looks / body: 6. Service 2.

After two disappointing sessions I was determined to find something better. I sat around in the bar to make a thorough assesment of what was on offer. Then a girl entered that I had seen a few times during the night but that always seemed busy with customers. She turned out to be Cuban Bella and has to me a very enticing porn star quality to her apperance. Since I speak a little bit of Spanish we got a little bit of chemisty going and she is a quite funny and charming woman. I opted to have a 1 hour session and it was great. Cuddling and massage was followed by an excellent BBBJ plus titjob and various positions. She's got good technique in everything she does and can take a good pounding. Looks / body: 8. Service 9.

Second day / Sunday:

Sitting in a couch, Jennifer from Domincan Republic made me a visit and sat down in my lap. I thought her face was quite beautiful and got a bit of a hard-on caressing her smooth skin. After comfirming that she does kissing and DATY we went to a room. With this girl I got into a cuddly mood and gave her some massage which she appreciated. Then on to licking her pussy which was tasty and seemingly she got quite taken with this treatment. She took a good grip of my hair and pressed me down, didn't let go for a good ten minutes until she finally came. She gave a good BBBJ and it was a very nice feeling fucking her. She has to be a little bit older than the average at Artemis but despite this her body is very firm and thin. Considering it was only a 30 min session (well, we probably stayed about 40 min given the prolonged oral activity on her) there was a very good atmosphere. Jennifer is very skilled at making you feel special and giving a good GFE. Looks / body: 8. Service 9. 5.

Next up was Brazilian Beatrice. She looks quite sweet and cute, dark skin and smaller tits, body more towards the petite. We went to a room for one hour and made lots of conversation and had a relaxed time together. This is a quite fun and smart girl and we tried some different unorthodox positions and had a laugh with it. Looks / body: 7. 5. Service 8.

Ina from Ukraine, brunette with enhanced tits. An average session with quite good BBBJ and missionary plus doggy. She wasn't really my type but not bad either. Looks / body: 7. Service 5.

Had a good finish to my day with Romainian Francesca, petite brunette with glasses and quite beautiful. She may be a little bit formal and icy but incredibly sexy, tight and firm body. We kissed a little bit and then BBBJ which was sexy with such a cute and young looking girl. Then doggy and I came caressing her perfect little ass. Looks / body: 9. Service 6.

[Kimino]

I consider the weekend to be from thursdays to saturdays in my book, leaving the Friday well within the weekend.Lucky guy. I only get weekends on Saturday and Sunday. LOL.

In the past months I only visited on fridays (except a couple of times) and I did see her a few times. I'll be up on a Wednesday in a couple of weeks.

Kimino.

[FiddyCent]

Indeed polish hannah is a sultry musky cat oozing sex right out from between her very presence both in and outside of the infamous zimmers. I'm surprised you didn't see her I had two hour sessions and another threesome with her and her german friend 2012/13. I'm returning to artemis this December and if anyone has seen her recently can you let me know. I think her friend was megan.Hello StarletVoyager.

You must have had her the whole time. Two x two hours and a threesome? I visited three times during my last October visit in 2013. I have to go back through my notes to see who I was with during that time. She was definitely not there when I was there. However, it was busy during Messe. Martina, the petite Bulgarian girl, kept me busy. How can I forget? Not too much mention of her on this forum.

FiddyCent.

[StarletVoyager]

Do you or anyone have up to date intell. On the twins?

[Ravein2]

I am going back to Artemis in 3-4 weeks from now after having been away for half a year or so. How is the status quo with Juliette? Is she still only working in the weekends? (I will unfortunately only be at here at weekdays this time).

And is Carrie still going strong?I had my first encounter with Juliette last week, and it was quite the nice one. She's got dark hair now, BTW. She told me that her normal days are Thursday to Saturday.

[Ibrahimovic]

Monday.

There was a weaker line-up then the two previous nights. My first session was with German / Moroccan Amira who I'd noticed the night before. She is a very beautiful, young and natural looking brunette. The only flaw on her body may be considered to be her ass that wasn't all that firm for a younger girl. But slim and nice natural tits to suck on. Afterwards I got a feeling she might have been worth more time than the 30 minutes, she seems quite smart and it should be possible to get a good chemistry going with her. Looks / body: 9. Service 7.

Samantha from Bulgaria. Blonde with glasses and big enhanced tits, a little bit older looking. She was a quite sweet lady and initiated DFK without me having asked for it which was arousing. She could take a good pounding in doggy style but has got a little bit of a bony arse. I couldn't finish so we relaxed and gave each other massage to end our time together. Looks / body: 6. Service 7.

Getting a little bit late there wasn't much of interesting talent left that I hadn't already tried, so for some reason I just hastily picked Romanian Dea without talking with her properly first. She was less good looking up close and generally tried to obstruct kissing and touching by moving around. I lost interest after a few minutes of fucking. Looks / body: 6. Service: 3.

To finish up my three days at Artemis I choose blonde Laura from Czech Republic. She wasn't really my type but I choose her because her tits looked so nice, it turned out that she had recently had a tit-job and they were a little sore. Laura was chatty and bubbly. We had an hour long session starting with massage. During missionary and doggy-style she was hurting and I didn't want to contribute to aggravate those problems so I pulled out and ended with CIF. Looks / body: 6. Service: 5.

Three days and 12 girls. 1050 Euro plus 3 times 80 Euro in entrance.

[Pistons]

Lucky guy. I only get weekends on Saturday and Sunday. LOL.

In the past months I only visited on fridays (except a couple of times) and I did see her a few times. I'll be up on a Wednesday in a couple of weeks.

Kimino.Nightlife weekends are not the same as work weekends.

[FiddyCent]

Do you or anyone have up to date intell. On the twins?Hello StarletVoyager.

Sorry, no. I am lucky to get to Artemis once or twice a year. I seem to meet new girls every time I go there. I don't even know who the twins are. Hopefully, there are others who are willing to share this information with you. Best of luck!

FiddyCent.

[Member #4347]

Thanks Ibrahimovic for the excellent report.

Concerning the girls you mentioned, just a few remarks. I know most of them but I didn't have them all.

What you said about Dea from Romania is particularly interesting for me since I had considered going with her in the past because I liked her looks but I actually never went. Your words sound like a warning to me so that is really helpful.

About Belle she seems to be a great performer since not only I had a great time with her in the past but also a few friends who are quite different guys and all were more than satisfied. With me she provided some great mix of both PSE and GFE.

Jennifer her friend from the Dominican Republic has been at Arte for years and you are right what you said about that point. She was one of my favorite years ago and she was always unproblematic, funny and passionate. However if I fuck the same callgirl for years it feels like a marriage and that is something I cannot imagine at such a place.

A final comment on one of the girls you have been with. German blonde Alexis. I don't like to speak or to even judge things from some national or ethnic or whatever point of view. Let me say it like this: If you are not a native or a good German speaker to have a great experience with a German girl she needs to be a real good pro or you need to have a lot of sympathy. If she is speaking English well or you have another common language than this makes things more simple for sure. Fact is I know Alexis and I like both her looks and her personality and I had a few good experiences with her. But I am sure she doesn't speak English a lot and despite the fact I like her personally and she is a kind woman I would not generally recommend her.

Cheers,

Diplomat

[Buck Rogers]

I have not seen the twins in a long time and I think if you search this thread you will find some information.

Cheers.

Buck

[Ibrahimovic]

Diplomat: I'm happy I could contribute.

Regarding Dea from Romania, she seemed to be the partner in crime with another cute girl that approached me a couple of times for a threesome with the two of them. In the end I think the friend might actually be better looking in my view. I didn't have a lot of time before closing time on my last night and had still room in my budget for two more girls. So I just picked her and didn't care to converse much with her first, which I of course knew might be a mistake. I thought she was quite good looking admiring her from a distance. But I just got a little bit less convinced being close to her. She's got a pretty nice thin body with a firm petite ass but she's also quite hairy. Nothing coarse but just like akin to lanugo hair or something, still unusual. Given that I hadn't allowed for any time between us to set up what kind of meeting I wanted and that all got kind of rushed, that might be a big reason for the week session. I would maybe at least give her a chance and have a conversation with her to see if you hit it off.

About Alexis I think that as soon we sat down in a sofa upstairs to wait for a room I got nervous and maybe she caught that feeling and the chemistry between us went sour. I am sure she might be a lot better match with others. And of course it's quite good that not every guy likes the same girls as well. However, our personalities didn't seem to go along that well and of course the language thing that you mention didn't help. I really noticed this with the latina girls that if you can speak and understand some rudimental Spanish or Portuguese it kind of gives an opening to a little bit of a connection. This small difference can set the tone to the time you have together and it's easier to joke around a little bit and be sweet with the girl if you can say some nice things in her own language.

Cheers,

Ibra

P.S. I noticed that if you say cheers to people in Germany they probably think you said "Tschuss" which I guess often comes out as pretty much the same thing anyway so.

[Laghman89]

Hi fellas,

Heading to Artemis with a friend tomorrow from Norway, and have a few question I hope you.

Guys can help use with.

1: You enter Artemis and pay entry fee, about 80 euro ish.

2: You get your robe and take shower and enter the establishment.

Now this is were my questions start, want to make the best of it.

1: Do you walk around with cash (EURO) in your pockets or is there a close area nearby were you can put that (locked).

Don't feel comfortable carrying 1000 euro plus in my pockets at all times.

2: Do you pay the girl before or after, I have always paid before at different establishment, those were not FKK Clubs.

3: I assume the rooms have a shower, that you use before and after the fun time.

I have been reading this thread for some time now, and I assume the same still applies.

1: Always come to an agreement with the lady about what services and at what prices, so you don't get surprises.

I am quite generous with the ladies, but don't want to be taken for fool LOL.

It opens around 11 I heard, so will there be any ladies around 13:00.

I prefer not going when its jammed packed, but still have a decent selection to choose from.

Anyways, love the forum and some of the post are really enjoyable.

Thanks and hope some of you vets can answer some of the question I have on my mind.

Cheers,

LM89

[Kimino]

Hi fellas,

Hi Laghman89.

Entrance is 80 euro. You get a robe and a key for the lockers.

You keep your money (and phone) in a safety locker just beside the reception, you can access it anytime. The same key will also open the locker in the changing room where you will leave your dresses, take the showers etc.

You pay after. Once you come out of the room you go downstairs where the safety lockers are and give the money to the girl. No need to carry money around with you.

The showers are in the changing room area and in other places, you can shower any time you feel like it. Not in the rooms.

From 11:00 to mid afternoon the lineup could be very limited. I also usually go there very early and take my time.

Prices are fixed. 60euro for 30min (BBBJ + Sex), 60euro more for any extra 30min (or part of it), +100 euro anal (if the girl does it), +50 euro CIM (if the girl does it). That's the basic stuff.

Have fun and report back.

Cheers,

Kimino.

[Nr 71]

Hi fellas,

Heading to Artemis with a friend tomorrow from Norway, and have a few question I hope you.

LM89Lahgman,

I come from the same country as you, I've been a total Artemis-fan after my visit there about a month ago.

Going again in three weeks, can't wait to be there again.

Kiminos answers will help you a lot, the club is very easy to get to know.

I was there about 1:00 pm, and had a blast for at least 10 hours.

Looking forward to your report!

[DarkNumber]

I'm talking about heaven.

She's tall with an amazing! Body, one I can't forget and you don't think I will ever forget. She has a beautiful clean face and beside a tattoo on her down leg she's clean, Dark hair and usually wear glasses.

She's a girl of your dreams.

If you know the one I talk about than I'll be happy if you will tell her something from me.I don't know her but if I see her I can forward what you want me to say to her. No problem.

[Laghman89]

Hi fellas,

First day and it was a freaking blast, got there early around 12:00 and there was quite a good selection of girls.

Majority of the girls were truly stunning and very friendly, and have a total of 3 sessions.

First one was from Germany and was a petite little thing with curly hair, and the session was great.

A+ for effort and was very friendly. Was regular sex with CIM as extra.

Was positively surprised that blowjob without condom was included, I was under the impression it was with condoms.

Second was a stunning Romanian with black hair, she was truly a stunner.

I would say 9 of 10 in looks and super cute and friendly.

Last one was a red head from Romania and she was overall a fun girl and easy to talk to.

Had a good time with here as well.

The atmosphere was very welcoming and calm and the entire place.

Was very well maintained and clean. They had breakfast until 14:00 almost, and from 18:00 it was dinner.

Food was decent and got the job done, was pasta with two different sauces and some salad and other stuff.

Overall I must say this Place was a mans dream, I was surprised on how beautiful these girls were.

Majority of the Girls are in the 7-8 range, but a few were 9 or even 10's.

Going again tomorrow and will stay for 3-4 hours, today I spend around 9 hours in total.

I have been to many places, but Artemis is the best place in my book now.

Will write a more detailed report tomorrow once I get back home, taking everything from start to finish.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Hi fellas,

I have been to many places, but Artemis is the best place in my book now.

Will write a more detailed report tomorrow once I get back home, taking everything from start to finish.Welcome!

You haven't been to enough places LOL.

Artemis is too much for tourist, I like it when I'm in Berlin otherwise.

There are better places than Artemis, LOL.

[StarletVoyager]

Glad to hear you time in Berlin was all good. In all my visits to artemis since 2008 I can say I have never had a bad time there. Some may debate as to the type of girls there as compared to frankfurt which has a younger east european crowd of girls. Artemis does offer more polish and germanic hot cakes. I will be back there this December and looking forward to it very much. IMHO artemis has the best club facilities hardware of any club in Germany with the palace in frankfurt coming second.

[Nr 71]

You haven't been to enough places LOL.

There are better places than Artemis, LOL.Coming from Scandinavia, where buying escorts is illegal, Artemis is like heaven and every man's dream.

Nille, can you please mention one or two clubs that in your opinion is better?

Personally I can't understand if that is possible, but I have only visited 3 FKK-clubs so far.

Laghman, very nice report, I share your opinions. Please try to remember the girl's names after next visit.

[Rocketboy0]

Hi fellas, First day and it was a freaking blast, got there early around 12:00 and there was quite a good selection of girls.Will write a more detailed report tomorrow once I get back home, taking everything from start to finish.Great just 2 things: you don't need to use a "return" after every sentence. Only after Paragraphs. Otherwise it makes the post huge. And please when you report, include NAMES of girls. If necessary write them in reverse on your forehead, so when you look in the mirror the next morning, all right there. Normally just a small paper with notes in your locker will work if you cannot remember. It really helps others if you include names. Thanks.

[Nille Copenhagen]

IMHO artemis has the best club facilities hardware of any club in Germany with the palace in frankfurt coming second.Both clubs you mention have lack of garden.

Let us see when the Oceans and Grand Plaza open, I have high expectation of these clubs.

[Blover34]

Ok than if you'll see her please tell her that the guy from Iasi (when you say it it should sound like Iashi) think of her and didn't came to say goodbye because he broke his leg. And give her a kiss for me and try not to go inside with her it will make me jealous. LOL.

[DarkNumber]

Ok than if you'll see her please tell her that the guy from Iasi (when you say it it should sound like Iashi) think of her and didn't came to say goodbye because he broke his leg. And give her a kiss for me and try not to go inside with her it will make me jealous. LOL.Alright, will do that for you. I will be there next week.

[Kimino]

Ok than if you'll see her please tell her that the guy from Iasi (when you say it it should sound like Iashi) think of her and didn't came to say goodbye because he broke his leg. And give her a kiss for me and try not to go inside with her it will make me jealous. LOL.Quite a few girls read this forum regularly, so your message might already have been delivered. LOL.

Kimino.

[Accidenti]

Hi all,

Do you know something about the party this Thursday?

I did not been there before at the party nights but it looks will be great.

[Rocketboy0]

Do you know something about the party this Thursday?Discussed starting 10 Sept-just RTFF.

[Ray Reddington]

Hi all,

Do you know something about the party this Thursday?

I did not been there before at the party nights but it looks will be great.Quick question for the seasoned members who have attended one of the previous "Arttemis Birthday Parties": What would be the best time to go? I was planning on arriving around 4. 30 pm, grab some food and enjoy the facilities. I'll guess it'll be busier than usual especially since there will be a public holiday the next day.

Thanks,

Ray

[Member #4469]

Has anyone seen Iris lately?

[Manny51]

I visited Artemis on a Thursday recently, and I have to say, I was very underwhelmed.

Others have accurately pointed out that there were relatively less Romanians there compared to other FKKs. There are more Germans, and for some reason, a good number of Moldovans. But unfortunately, that doesn't change the attitude. It felt like a lame USA strip club, where women come up to you and ask, "Do you want a lap dance?" If you say no, they walk away, with the smile they first showed you disappearing like a fart in the wind. And that was just the attitude. In terms of looks, the women were nothing special. I didn't find a single woman charming. I did not session once the whole evening.

On top of that, the facilities are unimpressive. The food was terrible. And most importantly, the booze was WAY overpriced. 10 euro for a beer? Thats $13 us dollars for ONE beer. That's insane. If you like a little buzz while hanging in an FKK, drink BEFORE you get there. Have a few beers before you leave the hotel, because Artemis is in a freeway zone. There is NOTHING around it.

It reminded me of FKK Goldentime in Vienna. Extremely forgettable, but overpriced and overhyped because there is no other good FKK in the area.

Just my two cents. Maybe you may go and like it, but it was definitely not my cup of tea. There are better options in Berlin.

[Pharisaer]

Has anyone seen Iris lately?Spotted Iris last week.

[Iceberg27]

I visited Artemis on a Thursday recently, and I have to say, I was very underwhelmed.

Others have accurately pointed out that there were relatively less Romanians there compared to other FKKs. There are more Germans, and for some reason, a good number of Moldovans. But unfortunately, that doesn't change the attitude. It felt like a lame USA strip club, where women come up to you and ask, "Do you want a lap dance?" If you say no, they walk away, with the smile they first showed you disappearing like a fart in the wind. And that was just the attitude. In terms of looks, the women were nothing special. I didn't find a single woman charming. I did not session once the whole evening.

On top of that, the facilities are unimpressive. The food was terrible. And most importantly, the booze was WAY overpriced. 10 euro for a beer? Thats $13 us dollars for ONE beer. That's insane. If you like a little buzz while hanging in an FKK, drink BEFORE you get there. Have a few beers before you leave the hotel, because Artemis is in a freeway zone. There is NOTHING around it.

It reminded me of FKK Goldentime in Vienna. Extremely forgettable, but overpriced and overhyped because there is no other good FKK in the area.

Just my two cents. Maybe you may go and like it, but it was definitely not my cup of tea. There are better options in Berlin.I am just curious what other the options in Berlin which are better than Artemis?

Also if you are not impressed of Artemis where you are impressed? In Brasil or Thailand or Vegas? Just curious about your opinions and want to know your comparative opinions.

Regards.

[Rocketboy0]

Quick question for the seasoned members who have attended one of the previous "Artemis Birthday Parties": I'll guess it'll be busier than usual especially since there will be a public holiday the next day. Don't think this will be an issue -as with long weekend, some guys will be away with their families so it will be a wash. Might be a little more crowded than a normal Thursday but likely less so than a normal Saturday. It will likely be full but not unbearable. Would not worry about it, and certainly no need to turn up early. Food won't get going til 6 ish and with the usual food rush, with girls still drifting in, turning up even at 1930 would be fine to get a sense of the full pm shift and food will be served til late.

[Ray Reddington]

Don't think this will be an issue -as with long weekend, some guys will be away with their families so it will be a wash. Might be a little more crowded than a normal Thursday but likely less so than a normal Saturday. It will likely be full but not unbearable. Would not worry about it, and certainly no need to turn up early. Food won't get going til 6 ish and with the usual food rush, with girls still drifting in, turning up even at 1930 would be fine to get a sense of the full pm shift and food will be served til late.Hey Rocketboy0,

Thanks for your input. Much appreciated! It's my second time at Artemis. First time had been a year ago and I went with an excellent guide. I would recommend any first timer (who has never been to a FKK-Club before) to team up with someone as I found the whole experience somewhat overwhelming. I've only been to 2-3 bordellos in Greece & Switzerland, so not totally new to P6. But that had been a long time ago and a FKK-Saunaclub is defiantly something else.

[Rocketboy0]

.. team up with someone as I found the whole experience somewhat overwhelming.Well if you are there, as I can't send you a PM, if you plunk yourself down on the sofa just to the left of the reception desk, kind of under the money lockers on a landing, say 8 pm, will try to stop by and say hello. Wait 15 min just in case, you know. Like some of the girls, RB will likely be somewhat unshaven in keeping with the mood, and will be with an esteemed colleague who wears glasses.

[Ravein2]

Was finally able to visit Artemis again, after a painfully long absence. (Had time for a couple of expeditions to Royal, as well, so Berlin was good to me, again.) Thankfully my Berlin-trip was sandwiched between the IFA and InnoTrans, so I was spared the chaos caused by those crowds. Still, I found Artemis to be quite lively this time. Not too much to do outside, with temperatures dropping, so quite the crowd in the main bar area.

My first zimmer-visit was a forgettable one with a German blonde, sorry, I forgot her name almost before she told it to me. I guess I should have understood that the chemistry was missing. But the combination of excitement caused by finally being back in Art, and a naked beauty rubbing up against me in the doorway led me to make a bad choice. Well, it was sunk cost, nothing to worry about for the rest of my stay.

Another matter altogether, with Juliette (RUS). I eyed her for awhile as she was curled up on one of the bar stools. Even if she looked slinky and flexible enough on the bar stool, it did not look comfortable, so I decided to rescue her and take her upstairs for 30 minutes. She was a great choice, both visually and carnally. Long dark hair, toned and fit body with beautiful, natural, be-cups. All accessories were in black giving her a very sensual and mysterious look. Friendly in zimmer, no upsell, soft kisses, good owo and a great CG. Doing her from behind was a sight, and feeling, to remember. I guess we didn't click 100 per cent, but I definitely intend to see her again, and work on those last couple of per cent. Definite recommendation.

An hour or so later, I was planning to retire to my hotel. I had checked out this exotic looking chick for a while, and thankfully I bumped into her outside the downstairs cinema as I was heading up to leave. Valeska (GER), a great mix of German and African genes, her face does indeed remind me a bit of Rihanna. We hit it off immediately, and headed upstairs. On the way up (following her great ass up the stairs). I saw that she's got a bit more ink than I usually prefer, but it did not put me off. In zimmer she was friendly, and maybe a bit shy. All actions were delivered with gusto (even if I only have quite vanilla requests) leaving me totally satisfied. Another definite recommendation, and I think I should stay 60 minutes the next time.

To sum up: a great return to Artemis, after I remembered to take my time in the selection process. Now I just hope that it will not be too long before I get to return.

[Pistons]

Hehe, its funny how this needs to be said again and again. But I have yet to meet a Moldovan girl in an FKK. They are however all from Moldavia, a big region in Romania next to Moldova. In my mind the prettiest Romanians are from that region, so it is understandable that they point it out perhaps.

[KaveMan]

I visited Artemis on a Thursday recently, and I have to say, I was very underwhelmed.

Others have accurately pointed out that there were relatively less Romanians there compared to other FKKs. There are more Germans, and for some reason, a good number of Moldovans. But unfortunately, that doesn't change the attitude. It felt like a lame USA strip club, where women come up to you and ask, "Do you want a lap dance?" If you say no, they walk away, with the smile they first showed you disappearing like a fart in the wind. And that was just the attitude. In terms of looks, the women were nothing special. I didn't find a single woman charming. I did not session once the whole evening.

On top of that, the facilities are unimpressive. The food was terrible. And most importantly, the booze was WAY overpriced. 10 euro for a beer? Thats $13 us dollars for ONE beer. That's insane. If you like a little buzz while hanging in an FKK, drink BEFORE you get there. Have a few beers before you leave the hotel, because Artemis is in a freeway zone. There is NOTHING around it.

It reminded me of FKK Goldentime in Vienna. Extremely forgettable, but overpriced and overhyped because there is no other good FKK in the area.

Just my two cents. Maybe you may go and like it, but it was definitely not my cup of tea. There are better options in Berlin.Stunning. People rave about how FKKs are chock full of stunners, spinners and 9-10's and then you have a post like this.

I realize it can be an off day. But if you read the FKK reviews (even in Frankfurt) you will often see this type of post.

I can't see how a Club can be like the Playboy Mansion or Met-Art quality babes (18-20's) then a lame USA strip club in same month?

Something is definitely lost in translation German / English.

[FiddyCent]

I visited Artemis on a Thursday recently, and I have to say, I was very underwhelmed.

Others have accurately pointed out that there were relatively less Romanians there compared to other FKKs. There are more Germans, and for some reason, a good number of Moldovans. But unfortunately, that doesn't change the attitude. It felt like a lame USA strip club, where women come up to you and ask, "Do you want a lap dance?" If you say no, they walk away, with the smile they first showed you disappearing like a fart in the wind. And that was just the attitude. In terms of looks, the women were nothing special. I didn't find a single woman charming. I did not session once the whole evening.

On top of that, the facilities are unimpressive. The food was terrible. And most importantly, the booze was WAY overpriced. 10 euro for a beer? Thats $13 us dollars for ONE beer. That's insane. If you like a little buzz while hanging in an FKK, drink BEFORE you get there. Have a few beers before you leave the hotel, because Artemis is in a freeway zone. There is NOTHING around it.

It reminded me of FKK Goldentime in Vienna. Extremely forgettable, but overpriced and overhyped because there is no other good FKK in the area.

Just my two cents. Maybe you may go and like it, but it was definitely not my cup of tea. There are better options in Berlin.Hey Manny.

Perhaps King George suits you better. 79 Euro entry and all the booze you can drink. You buy KG dollars and give to the strippers before taking them to the back rooms. Other than Artemis, what other clubs do you suggest?

FiddyCent.

[PussyLiccker]

Hey Manny.

Perhaps King George suits you better. 79 Euro entry and all the booze you can drink. You buy KG dollars and give to the strippers before taking them to the back rooms. Other than Artemis, what other clubs do you suggest?

FiddyCent.Fook no. Stay away. Was there 2 years ago. Like 4 girls(not really, 1 girl, and 3 mams) there and only 1 young decent looking one that wanted to give me bad 2 sessions. :( Others, I just could not get myself to do with only 2 beers. Needed hard liquor for them. Probably not even after hard booze.

[Manny51]

Hey Manny.

Perhaps King George suits you better. 79 Euro entry and all the booze you can drink. You buy KG dollars and give to the strippers before taking them to the back rooms. Other than Artemis, what other clubs do you suggest?

FiddyCent.On this forum, Bobo has been a big proponent of the bordellos, and I agree. Royal, Kamilla Dee, and Van Kampen are all in the same part area, SE part of Zone A. Bobo has tried to start a separate section of the Germany forums, but it hasn't taken off. That's too bad. If you have not read about them on the forums, google them. They come up right away.

Its not that I don't like FKKs. I think highly of Oase and Globe, and even liked Sakura in Stuttgart recently. But Artemis is very average, especially given the prices. Read this forum back just a few pages. You'll see others who think the same. You may like it, and that's fine.

[Manny51]

Hehe, its funny how this needs to be said again and again. But I have yet to meet a Moldovan girl in an FKK. They are however all from Moldavia, a big region in Romania next to Moldova. In my mind the prettiest Romanians are from that region, so it is understandable that they point it out perhaps.Ha! I didn't know that the Moldova thing was a line. So I guess that the Romanian girls have figured out that they are getting a reputation.

[PussyLiccker]

My visits there lately has been pretty average. I remember when it was better two years ago. It's more similar to a Frankfurt clubs with higher session fee. Maybe attracts some Germans and upsellers compared to other clubs I've attended. If in Berlin, definately worth it. If no reason to be there, couple other areas of Germany comes to mind that have more options with number of clubs in the area.

[Pistons]

Ha! I didn't know that the Moldova thing was a line. So I guess that the Romanian girls have figured out that they are getting a reputation.Oh yes, haha!

They are probably reading everything we write in here. Although most of the wg's only reads the German forum.

I have to say though that some of the nicest girls I know are Romanians. It only really gets bad when they start forming gangs. Then some of them always start telling the other girls in the same gang what not to do. Normally it is the uglier girls who start it out so that the lookers will get a bad sharky reputation. Because the ugly ones are just lying to the pretty ones. Or something along those lines. There are basically no friends for them at the FKK's, and a lot of the younger Romanians gets dragged into those gangs and brought up the same way. When they realise the bad service thingy is a scam by their 'friends', they improve, yet they still tell their friends how stringent they still are.

It is all ONLY due to the reputation among the rest of the girls. And they lie and lie and lie to each other. The smart ones have fortunately figured this out though, because they all know they will make more money if they give a good service. The scam they tell their 'friends' about is so that they will get the customers who normally would pick their friends. But because of that it can sometimes be wise not to write anywhere or tell anyone that a girl gives good service. Sad but true.

[PussyLiccker]

There are plenty of nice Romanians. Don't know if the clubs you have been atttending has the thugish ones. Try NRW if you looking for the new young not thugish ones. I've met some nice Romanians even at Oase my last trip, but that was during Messe when it attacts girls from other clubs. I noticed newer younger girls though. Franfurt and Art is more business like when it comes to girl's approaches. Lots more upselling because of the price structure.

[FiddyCent]

My visits there lately has been pretty average. I remember when it was better two years ago. It's more similar to a Frankfurt clubs with higher session fee. Maybe attracts some Germans and upsellers compared to other clubs I've attended. If in Berlin, definately worth it. If no reason to be there, couple other areas of Germany comes to mind that have more options with number of clubs in the area.Hey PussyLiccker.

It is sad to hear that Artemis has declined. I thought the place was OK, especially after the expansion. The new rooms and the number of beautiful girls there made the club a good place to visit. Of course, it does not compare to the clubs in the Hessen area, but it is the only gig in town and with little competition with this type setup. There is supposed to be another club opening up soon. Maybe that will create some worthy competition. Personally, I never considered brothels like Royal, KD, and Van Kampen to be in the same league, although the girls may be of higher standards. It is the entire package that makes FKK experience complete. For the record, I have tried Royal and it was OK, but the selection there at the time I visited was not that impressive. Service levels were about the same. The only thing I enjoyed was the mutual shower after sex.

FiddyCent.

[Kimino]

Hey PussyLiccker.

Personally, I never considered brothels like Royal, KD, and Van Kampen to be in the same league, although the girls may be of higher standards. It is the entire package that makes FKK experience complete. For the record, I have tried Royal and it was OK, but the selection there at the time I visited was not that impressive. Service levels were about the same. The only thing I enjoyed was the mutual shower after sex.

FiddyCent.Same here, and I don't feel Artemis has declined.

Been visiting VK, Royal, Liberty, KD, Prestige, Tiffany, Monrouge, Odette and all the rest of the bunch ad nauseam. "Higher standards" girls working there? Not in my records. Better service happening there? Not in my records. It's hit and miss exactly like in Artemis or anywhere else.

It's a taste thing, period. Some like to relax and hang around for hours grabbing a girl now and then, Artemis is their choice. Some don't give a fuck about hanging around and prefer cruising a few clubs looking for the right girl, bothels are the choice. And this preferences change over time, at least for me.

Regarding the other FKK clubs, same story. Never liked Oase, still so many people reporting the place to be heaven (at least in the past). Always had fun and never went through hard upselling in Palace, while keeping reading horror stories about the place. Mainhattan, Paradise, Cola, all clubs in Koln area, same story. Still missing NRW for laziness and lack of enthusiasm. LOL.

What I learned is to take other's opinions for what they are and go see the places for myself, then decide.

My 2 cents.

Kimino.

[FiddyCent]

Same here, and I don't feel Artemis has declined.

Been visiting VK, Royal, Liberty, KD, Prestige, Tiffany, Monrouge, Odette and all the rest of the bunch ad nauseam. "Higher standards" girls working there? Not in my records. Better service happening there? Not in my records. It's hit and miss exactly like in Artemis or anywhere else.

It's a taste thing, period. Some like to relax and hang around for hours grabbing a girl now and then, Artemis is their choice. Some don't give a fuck about hanging around and prefer cruising a few clubs looking for the right girl, bothels are the choice. And this preferences change over time, at least for me.

Regarding the other FKK clubs, same story. Never liked Oase, still so many people reporting the place to be heaven (at least in the past). Always had fun and never went through hard upselling in Palace, while keeping reading horror stories about the place. Mainhattan, Paradise, Cola, all clubs in Koln area, same story. Still missing NRW for laziness and lack of enthusiasm. LOL.

What I learned is to take other's opinions for what they are and go see the places for myself, then decide.

My 2 cents.

Kimino.Thanks Kimino! I plan to return to Artemis regardless of what the others say. My only knock on Artemis is the amount of smoke that fills the main bar area. Sometimes, I need to retreat to the downstairs bar for some fresh air, or outside to the new rooms. They need to build a new heated waiting area during the cold months. Non-smoking of course.

The only brothel I was wanting to try was Liberty, since they had the gyno chair and the swing. I have always wanted to try that. Do you recommend any of the girls there? I wonder if Artemis can setup a room like that for a small premium fee?

FiddyCent.

[Kimino]

Thanks Kimino! I plan to return to Artemis regardless of what the others say. My only knock on Artemis is the amount of smoke that fills the main bar area. Sometimes, I need to retreat to the downstairs bar for some fresh air, or outside to the new rooms. They need to build a new heated waiting area during the cold months. Non-smoking of course.

The only brothel I was wanting to try was Liberty, since they had the gyno chair and the swing. I have always wanted to try that. Do you recommend any of the girls there? I wonder if Artemis can setup a room like that for a small premium fee?

FiddyCent.I like Liberty quite a lot. Don't know a thing about the chair, though.

I had great sessions with a german girl called Chris. Late twenties, tatoos, kind of pornstar look, a pro. Also had a threesome with a friend of her. Search the Berlin thread I must have filed a report.

Cheers.

Kimino.

[Member #4347]

In the end it is all a matter of taste. About other FKK clubs some of you may actually have more experience than I have. I have had both bad and great experiences with Romanians, Germans, Russians, Latina women etc. And for me the whole nationality talk is just a a lack of experience and sometimes just a matter of personal tastes again. Also we as men and mongers are all of different nations, ethnicities, sizes and we know we have different tastes and wishes. Despite all that our highly subjective reports may be beneficial to read for others. I have been with hundreds of women and what I have learned may help me to advise other men but I would never be arrogant and judge both women or other guys to the extent that I really know who is good for whom. What I have learned is mostly understanding my own tastes and my own approach and how to understand in the early stages of an interaction what I like and what I don't like.

I believe there are some points we can establish as facts such as that Artemis is one of the biggest FKK clubs in Germany and there is no competition in Berlin until now and the entrance fee is quite expensive compared to other German FKKs and that the quality of the food is below standard and that in Artemis you will find more girls with silicone boobs than elsewhere and that most if not all of the girls are professionals who have worked in other clubs, brothels or as escorts before starting to work at Artemis. Also the mix of different nationalities is more diverse than at other clubs this size in Germany while both Germans and Romanians seem to be forming the biggest groups. I am quite sure that most of the regular and frequent Artemis mongers would agree with me about what I have just said.

However comparing Artemis to the more expensive Berlin brothels like Kamilla Dee, Van Kampen, Royal, Liberty etc. Is more difficult because the concept, the price structure and the facilities are different. I have know all of the mentioned brothels and more for years and since they are all have in a similar price range and they are all among the higher class brothels we have in Berlin it makes sense to compare them. I will not go into details because I don't think we should do that in the Artemis thread however Van Kampen has declined a lot concerning the quality of the women concerning both looks and service. Liberty too is a big and beautiful place but I wasn't very enthusiastic about the lineup recently. Royal has at least a few stunners but still seems a little overpriced for the kind of standard service you get. Kamilla is among the brothels who have an excellent reputation concerning the atmosphere and the women being relaxed and the administration being both fair to the customer and to the girls.

But with all the experiences I have for me there is nothing better than Artemis right now. I understand if you are a first time visitor or if you can only be there once a year and then you get frustrated because you paid a lot of cash without finding your type of girl I really sympathize. But as a man who knows his own tastes I am happy to say I have had mostly good and sometimes unforgettable experiences at this place.

Happy anniversary for everyone who will be attending tomorrow.

Diplomat

[Frozty]

Thanks Kimino! I plan to return to Artemis regardless of what the others say. My only knock on Artemis is the amount of smoke that fills the main bar area. Sometimes, I need to retreat to the downstairs bar for some fresh air, or outside to the new rooms. They need to build a new heated waiting area during the cold months. Non-smoking of course.
FiddyCent.The FKK model suits me the best, and Artemis remains my favourite of the four clubs that I have visited. I like to take a full day, and relax between sessions, so it works well for me. The smoke, and the music, would be my only significant complaints, but I visit during the day when neither is a problem. I'm not tempted by the Bordellos and I'm not much of a drinker, so the FKK environment works well for me.

I suspect that if I ever start to tire of Artemis, it will be me that's the problem, not the club. I can't see that happening anytime soon.

[Manny51]

Stunning. People rave about how FKKs are chock full of stunners, spinners and 9-10's and then you have a post like this.

I realize it can be an off day. But if you read the FKK reviews (even in Frankfurt) you will often see this type of post.

I can't see how a Club can be like the Playboy Mansion or Met-Art quality babes (18-20's) then a lame USA strip club in same month?

Something is definitely lost in translation German / English.I understand what you are talking about. But the variation in reports and opinions is because so much of your opinion can be based on your experience with just one girl. That experience colors everything. A fantastic session can make a dingy FKK seem lovingly "dive," and a bad session can make a nice FKK look "sterile and clinical. ".

You have to read reports with a grain of salt. I look for reports from experienced people who have visited many FKKs, where they comment on more than just the girls, and reports that look like some thought is behind it. Newbies can be so awestruck by their first visit to an FKK that everything seems like Disneyland. Reports that are too enthusiastic, or those that read like Penthouse Letters, are obviously planted.

[Blover34]

There might be better clubs and maybe more beautiful girls but in my opinion Artemis is the most close place to the playboy mansion. I have seen there amazing black girl top top model I.

Have seen amazing Romanian and German girls. They pick the girls in there one by one. I think that if a man in there can't find.

At least a one girl to spend his time with than the problem is not the club it is more his problem. Maybe there are some guys that go in and think they look like George Cloney and they look for a kind of girl that wasn't yet born but for me as I can speak only about me this place is like toys are us for a little boy. I Just hurt my eyes from some of the girls in there and the memories won't let me sleep good at night, dreams dreams dreams.


I understand what you are talking about. But the variation in reports and opinions is because so much of your opinion can be based on your experience with just one girl. That experience colors everything. A fantastic session can make a dingy FKK seem lovingly "dive," and a bad session can make a nice FKK look "sterile and clinical. "

You have to read reports with a grain of salt. I look for reports from experienced people who have visited many FKKs, where they comment on more than just the girls, and reports that look like some thought is behind it. Newbies can be so awestruck by their first visit to an FKK that everything seems like Disneyland. Reports that are too enthusiastic, or those that read like Penthouse Letters, are obviously planted.

[Rocketboy0]

....they had the gyno chair ....I have always wanted to try that. Don't forget to bring your vagina.

[DarkNumber]

Don't forget to bring your vagina.Yeah, I also thought "wtf?" when I read that part.

What is NRW? I tried to google it, is it some club or is it a part of Germany?

[KaveMan]

I understand what you are talking about. But the variation in reports and opinions is because so much of your opinion can be based on your experience with just one girl. That experience colors everything. A fantastic session can make a dingy FKK seem lovingly "dive," and a bad session can make a nice FKK look "sterile and clinical. ".

You have to read reports with a grain of salt. I look for reports from experienced people who have visited many FKKs, where they comment on more than just the girls, and reports that look like some thought is behind it. Newbies can be so awestruck by their first visit to an FKK that everything seems like Disneyland. Reports that are too enthusiastic, or those that read like Penthouse Letters, are obviously planted.That is a fair point.

However, for many of us its $5,000 decision.

By the time you fly, hotel, cars, taxis, 7 days. Its min $3,000-5,000 sunk cost.

In most major USA Cities you can get a guaranteed 9-10 Escort for $1000 and a famous one (Playmate, Pet, Porn*, Swimsuit, Calendar, Lingerie Model for $2500).

So 5, 9-10's in USA v. $5,000 bet for a disaster lineup is not good trade off.

Posters have to realistically describe a 7-8-9-10's.

A 10 to a 60 year old Man and a 10 to a 30 year old man are usually very different.

[UltraHappy]

Yeah, I also thought "wtf?" when I read that part.

What is NRW? I tried to google it, is it some club or is it a part of Germany?Nord-Rhein-Westphalia. Region of Germany surrounding thesseldorf and Kln with many smaller FKKs, for example: Golden Times, Living Room, Samya, Acapulco, Magnum, Planet Happy Garden, and many more.

When people travel to Germany for FKKs, they usually venture to Hesse (Oase, Sharks, World, etc) or to NRW (the clubs listed above). Other regions also have FKKs but these two regions are the most popular.

[FiddyCent]

Don't forget to bring your vagina.Hey Rocketboy0.

I thought they provided vaginas there. I want to play doctor. Aren't there any sexy nurses with the S&M outfits?

FiddyCent.

[Manny51]

There might be better clubs and maybe more beautiful girls but in my opinion Artemis is the most close place to the playboy mansion. I have seen there amazing black girl top top model I.

Have seen amazing Romanian and German girls. They pick the girls in there one by one. I think that if a man in there can't find.

At least a one girl to spend his time with than the problem is not the club it is more his problem. Maybe there are some guys that go in and think they look like George Cloney and they look for a kind of girl that wasn't yet born but for me as I can speak only about me this place is like toys are us for a little boy. I Just hurt my eyes from some of the girls in there and the memories won't let me sleep good at night, dreams dreams dreams.Like I said, reports or opinions that are unrealistically enthusiastic, especially from people with only a few posts, got to be suspicious.....

[FiddyCent]

I like Liberty quite a lot. Don't know a thing about the chair, though.

I had great sessions with a german girl called Chris. Late twenties, tatoos, kind of pornstar look, a pro. Also had a threesome with a friend of her. Search the Berlin thread I must have filed a report.

Cheers.

Kimino.Hello Kimino.

I will look for her when I show up in Berlin. I know you have good taste in women. Give me Liberty. I want to mount her on either the gyno chair or the love swing and take her for an aerial flight.

Thanks for the tip.

FiddyCent.

[Blover34]

The forum is a place where all people old and new can share their opinion, this is what I did. I don't have hundreds of posts and I haven't been to FKK clubs many times but still I wanted to share my experience but Manny don't like it so from now on the whole forum should only listen to Mannys opinion since HE knows everything better than us.


Like I said, reports or opinions that are unrealistically enthusiastic, especially from people with only a few posts, got to be suspicious.....

[Rocketboy0]

I want to play doctor. Aren't there any sexy nurses with the S&M outfits?Many of the bordellos have a room with such chairs, certainly Lliberty, Kamilla Dee, I think van Kampen and Prestige. A few even have pictures of girls dressed as nurses, such as Marlene (Liberty) and Holly (van K).

However, doctors don't normally examine their nurses in gyno chairs, and nurses uniforms tend to be white vs some S&M outfit. So you are clearly working on some rather subtle fantasy concept here, possibly involving scrambled eggs. But nothing a few euros won't cure.

In any case, I will gently note we are in the Art's thread and all this might (if needs to) continue elsewhere.

[FiddyCent]

Many of the bordellos have a room with such chairs, certainly Lliberty, Kamilla Dee, I think van Kampen and Prestige. A few even have pictures of girls dressed as nurses, such as Marlene (Liberty) and Holly (van K).

However, doctors don't normally examine their nurses in gyno chairs, and nurses uniforms tend to be white vs some S&M outfit. So you are clearly working on some rather subtle fantasy concept here, possibly involving scrambled eggs. But nothing a few euros won't cure.

In any case, I will gently note we are in the Art's thread and all this might (if needs to) continue elsewhere.Question answered Rocketboy0. Thanks.

I had suggested that Artemis build a theme room such as this. I am sure they can charge a premium for using it. I would have my nurse go on the gyno chair or the love swing. I am off to make some house calls.

FiddyCent.

[Oskar517]

Has anyone been there and can give an opinion on the place?

Thank you very much.

[Manny51]

That is a fair point.

However, for many of us its $5,000 decision.

By the time you fly, hotel, cars, taxis, 7 days. Its min $3,000-5,000 sunk cost.

In most major USA Cities you can get a guaranteed 9-10 Escort for $1000 and a famous one (Playmate, Pet, Porn*, Swimsuit, Calendar, Lingerie Model for $2500).

So 5, 9-10's in USA v. $5,000 bet for a disaster lineup is not good trade off.

Posters have to realistically describe a 7-8-9-10's.

A 10 to a 60 year old Man and a 10 to a 30 year old man are usually very different.Respectfully, that's not a fair comparison.

First of all, a 7 day trip to Germany can easily be under $3000. Secondly, in the USA case, you are paying 1000 for one session. That's a big gamble. Do you really think that sex with her is going to be ten times better than an FKK? All sessions, no matter what you pay, or a gamble of a sorts. You can never really know what kind of experience you are going to get, unless you stay with a regular. Paying less per session reduces the risk from variability.

Thirdly, $3000 is not a sunk cost, its a trip to Germany! If you are thinking of $3000 as essentially your cover charge for an FKK, then you are travelling with the wrong philosophical approach.

I suggest that you look at punting as a holiday activity, like scuba diving. Travel to countries with great diving, but you don't only dive. For weekends of debauchery, just go to a closer, cheaper destination, like the DR or SXM. You can get plane tickets there for $400, and very nice hotel rooms for $80.

[Manny51]

In the end it is all a matter of taste. About other FKK clubs some of you may actually have more experience than I have. I have had both bad and great experiences with Romanians, Germans, Russians, Latina women etc. And for me the whole nationality talk is just a a lack of experience and sometimes just a matter of personal tastes again. Also we as men and mongers are all of different nations, ethnicities, sizes and we know we have different tastes and wishes. Despite all that our highly subjective reports may be beneficial to read for others. I have been with hundreds of women and what I have learned may help me to advise other men but I would never be arrogant and judge both women or other guys to the extent that I really know who is good for whom. What I have learned is mostly understanding my own tastes and my own approach and how to understand in the early stages of an interaction what I like and what I don't like.

I believe there are some points we can establish as facts such as that Artemis is one of the biggest FKK clubs in Germany and there is no competition in Berlin until now and the entrance fee is quite expensive compared to other German FKKs and that the quality of the food is below standard and that in Artemis you will find more girls with silicone boobs than elsewhere and that most if not all of the girls are professionals who have worked in other clubs, brothels or as escorts before starting to work at Artemis. Also the mix of different nationalities is more diverse than at other clubs this size in Germany while both Germans and Romanians seem to be forming the biggest groups. I am quite sure that most of the regular and frequent Artemis mongers would agree with me about what I have just said.

However comparing Artemis to the more expensive Berlin brothels like Kamilla Dee, Van Kampen, Royal, Liberty etc. Is more difficult because the concept, the price structure and the facilities are different. I have know all of the mentioned brothels and more for years and since they are all have in a similar price range and they are all among the higher class brothels we have in Berlin it makes sense to compare them. I will not go into details because I don't think we should do that in the Artemis thread however Van Kampen has declined a lot concerning the quality of the women concerning both looks and service. Liberty too is a big and beautiful place but I wasn't very enthusiastic about the lineup recently. Royal has at least a few stunners but still seems a little overpriced for the kind of standard service you get. Kamilla is among the brothels who have an excellent reputation concerning the atmosphere and the women being relaxed and the administration being both fair to the customer and to the girls.

But with all the experiences I have for me there is nothing better than Artemis right now. I understand if you are a first time visitor or if you can only be there once a year and then you get frustrated because you paid a lot of cash without finding your type of girl I really sympathize. But as a man who knows his own tastes I am happy to say I have had mostly good and sometimes unforgettable experiences at this place.

Happy anniversary for everyone who will be attending tomorrow.

DiplomatWas the entire point of your eloquently written post that "its all a matter of taste?

You are responding to posts saying that Artemis is in decline, and that places like Royal or KD may be better options. This is a compartive discussion. You have to explain WHY you like Artemis better. Otherwise, you haven't defended it at all.

[Frozty]

Was the entire point of your eloquently written post that "its all a matter of taste?

You are responding to posts saying that Artemis is in decline, and that places like Royal or KD may be better options. This is a compartive discussion. You have to explain WHY you like Artemis better. Otherwise, you haven't defended it at all.To be honest, it is all a matter of taste. I am sure that all of the places mentioned are good options. None of these places are perfect; all are transient and will suffer from bad moments. I have found a place where I am comfortable (Artemis) and take the bad experiences with the good.

[Pizda Hut]

According to rumors Ukrainian Cheyenne has been kicked out of Artemis due to meeting customers outside the club.

Does anyone have any intel about the whereabouts of this first class service provider?

PH

[Rocketboy0]

Was the entire point of your eloquently written post that "its all a matter of taste? This is a compartive discussion. You have to explain WHY you like Artemis better. Otherwise, you haven't defended it at all.Actually, my esteemed colleague Diplomat did explain it rather well (even though he does not "have" to defend anything). He likes Artemis warts and all, he likes the girls, and he has been there a zillion times to find his niche. You don't like it after your one visit. You found it a poor value. Fine. To each his own.

I would be the first to agree there are cracking great girls in the private flats, and I have my favorites. But I also like hanging out at the Bahnhoff, partly for other reasons. Frozty said it well, as do the hundreds who go there every day.

This is not a compartive (which is not even a word) discussion, it is indeed only an exchange of subjective tastes and opinions. As in, which is better red wine or white wine, or actually apples or oranges as the FKK vs private flats or indies are two different experiences? You cannot compare subjective experiences-people like different things for different reasons. This kind of stuff keeps economists and philosophers up late at night.

If you read the forum over several years, all this has been discussed, exhaustively. So now, we can all declare victory, and move on.

[Manny51]

Actually, my esteemed colleague Diplomat did explain it rather well (even though he does not "have" to defend anything). He likes Artemis warts and all, he likes the girls, and he has been there a zillion times to find his niche. You don't like it after your one visit. You found it a poor value. Fine. To each his own.

I would be the first to agree there are cracking great girls in the private flats, and I have my favorites. But I also like hanging out at the Bahnhoff, partly for other reasons. Frozty said it well, as do the hundreds who go there every day.

This is not a compartive (which is not even a word) discussion, it is indeed only an exchange of subjective tastes and opinions. As in, which is better red wine or white wine, or actually apples or oranges as the FKK vs private flats or indies are two different experiences? You cannot compare subjective experiences-people like different things for different reasons. This kind of stuff keeps economists and philosophers up late at night.

If you read the forum over several years, all this has been discussed, exhaustively. So now, we can all declare victory, and move on.I was not trying to be confrontational. Perhaps I should have said "with all due respect. ".

Its just that it was a very long, eloquently written rebuttal, that essentially said nothing. If his opinion was that strong, I was just trying to elicit more elaboration. Obviously, he doesn't HAVE to do anything.

[PussyLiccker]

According to rumors Ukrainian Cheyenne has been kicked out of Artemis due to meeting customers outside the club.

Does anyone have any intel about the whereabouts of this first class service provider?

PHWhat's up with this rule? Does this rule take affect at other clubs?

[Leifeide]

I used to go to La Folie earlier years, and I used to love it! Normally there would be between 10 and 15 girls available, many of them very good looking. I remember some of them working for as long as 10 years or so. So I guess it must be a nice place to work.

The only little thing I don't really appreciate is the mild pressure to buy small bottles of Champagne (sekt) to the girls. But most of them accepts it if you don't buy.

My best advise is to look for the german girls. They are much more enthusiastic than the eastern europeans.

Good luck and don't forget to write a report.


Has anyone been there and can give an opinion on the place?

Thank you very much.

[Samplerr]

Has anyone been there and can give an opinion on the place?

Thank you very much.Plenty have, but you have to search in the appropriate forum.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin

[Member #4347]

Hi Manny51,

RB already said a few things so I see no need to repeat it all.

I admit I have not read a lot of your posts but I am sure you contributed a lot to this forum and I always respect that.

On the other hand in my home forum I have 1,500 posts and many of them are actual reports and still there are guys who talk so much and have nothing to say. On the other hand some people have a few dozen points but there reports are quite entertaining and useful to me so I don't really care about internet fuck blog celebrities. So please don't get annoyed when I say I am not easily impressed.

I believe I have made a few valid points about Artemis and other Berlin brothels and I tried to give at least a few facts and experiences that illustrate it all.

Dinking alcohol there is something I don't like because I don't need it to be relaxed and many of the guests who drink too much cause problems and are bringing the girls mood down generally. That is why I am actually happy alcohol is quite expensive there.

I also said why I didn't want to get into details about the other brothels in the Artemis thread. Do you seriously believe I cannot elaborate when I tell you I know a place like VanKampen for more than 10 years?

The main point is: Over a longer period of time which is more than a single visit there is not brothel in Berlin that has more beautiful callgirls than Artemis and among the FKK clubs Artemis is the one with the greatest variety of different girls. Also if you use only some of the FKK facilities such as sauna, wellness, restaurant etc. And if you zimmer at least 2-3 times it will not be more expensive than any of the better Berlin brothels we mentioned. At Royal in Wilmersdorf for example you pay 200 Euro for an hour if you book DFK and BBBJ as extras. At Artemis you pay 120 Euro for the same service provided the girl kisses you. Even if you add the entrance fee its 200 Euro for both places which makes Artemis still cheaper because you can stay a long time and use most of the facilites included.

I could easily elaborate further. I am not a native English speaker so yes I make mistakes but I do believe my points are quite clear. You don't have to agree with anything I say but if you still don't UNDERSTAND my points or you don't want to, sorry to say but then it wouldn't really my problem. On the other hand, I don't know you and I have no problem having a controversial discussion and I wish you a great time in whatever brothel or FKK club you choose to visit next time.

Cheers.

Diplomat.

[Member #4347]

Since I never went to the Artemis anniversaries in the past, this was the first time I had planned to go.

Despite the fact the anniversary took place on a Thursday at least for the guys living and working in Germany it was surely helpful that the following day. The Day of German Unity. Is indeed a public holiday.

In the late afternoon the place was already unusually crowded with women and still there was work going on to prepare for the big evening. Both the staff and the girls seemed more friendly and genuinely looking forward to the party. Of course there was a steadily increasing number of guys but aside from the waiting for the rooms in the late evening and a few minutes to wait for a drink in the main bar room it was not really disturbing to me.

I was in a great mood since I was looking forward to a woman who has become quite special to me. She has been discussed here more than once so I won't go on talking about her. In fact she had planned to attend and I was sure she would be there so I didn't call the reception in advance to ask for her. But when I entered the main room and one of her friends approached me trying to sell her services in absence of her my dream girl I realized I had to adapt to the situation. After complaining a little bit to my friends and so called 'Arte brothers' I decided not to give in into some stupid irrational mood but to enjoy the party. And, as a friend correctly stated: There would be no shortage of beautiful women tonight.

I am among those who have repeatedly described Artemis food as below standard. One day I had the idea to invite Gordon Ramsay and I already know what he would say (Bland, dated and ... whatever). But tonight it was excellent. Roasted ox is not for me so I had wels catfish and veggies which I didn't regret. What was interesting is that contrary to most of my visits I didn't spot many of the big groups of tourists but rather many of the regular guests or some who might be considered VIPs mostly because they spend tons of money in there. Honestly I don't care about all that very much but I was happy to see at least a dozen friendly faces among the guys, some of them I would call friends and others at least guys you can have a nice chat and an exchange of experiences with.

The girls were wearing lingerie and little black dresses some of them hot and sexy, others quite elegant. The hottest dress in my opinion was Jenna's. The little black thing she wore was so very sexy since it enhanced the look of her great body even further. Besides of this very well known and highly recommended German blonde I was quite happy to see amazing Vegas, sweet Valeska, hot Szoey, elegant Xenia, adorable Clara, extremely hot Leura and many other women I know and like a lot.

The fireworks was great as we enjoyed it from the parking lot with a glass of Champagne. It is a little bizarre but amazing at the same time to be with so many guys there, mostly wearing robes and those gorgeous ladies all celebrating together.

There are a few things that show there is still much room for improvement: The was not much of the great food left in the evening which is especially annoying for those who joined the party in the evening and is really surprising considering how long you can stay and celebrate. There was a towel shortage in the outdoor area which is not a big deal for me personally because they still have towels in other parts of the building. The music and other aspects of such a big anniversary party in a place where there is so much money could also be of higher quality.

Concerning the sexual pleasures it was even a little less for me than what I am used to, but still I had great times with German african beauty Valeska who I had not been with for months and slim natural German Xenia who is one of my favorite girls at Arte. There was another woman I have been with but all of those have been described more than once and there was nothing new on this front for me.

All in all I of course didn't regret my visit and it was a great anniversary party just being a regular visitor besides from the food quality and the fireworks not better than many of the other nights I spent there.

Cheers.

Diplomat.

[Kimino]

Since I never went to the Artemis anniversaries in the past, this was the first time I had planned to go.

Thanks for the report Diplomat. I was looking forward to hear how it was. My timetable never gets me to be there in that occasion, but I'll get my share of lingerie next week, hopefully. LOL.

Cheers.

Kimino.

[Hessen Bub]

OMG, has it really been 9 years that I visited Artemis for the first time?

HB.

[Manny51]

Hi Manny51,

RB already said a few things so I see no need to repeat it all.

I admit I have not read a lot of your posts but I am sure you contributed a lot to this forum and I always respect that.

The main point is: Over a longer period of time which is more than a single visit there is not brothel in Berlin that has more beautiful callgirls than Artemis and among the FKK clubs Artemis is the one with the greatest variety of different girls. Also if you use only some of the FKK facilities such as sauna, wellness, restaurant etc. And if you zimmer at least 2-3 times it will not be more expensive than any of the better Berlin brothels we mentioned. At Royal in Wilmersdorf for example you pay 200 Euro for an hour if you book DFK and BBBJ as extras. At Artemis you pay 120 Euro for the same service provided the girl kisses you. Even if you add the entrance fee its 200 Euro for both places which makes Artemis still cheaper because you can stay a long time and use most of the facilites included.

I could easily elaborate further. I am not a native English speaker so yes I make mistakes but I do believe my points are quite clear. You don't have to agree with anything I say but if you still don't UNDERSTAND my points or you don't want to, sorry to say but then it wouldn't really my problem. On the other hand, I don't know you and I have no problem having a controversial discussion and I wish you a great time in whatever brothel or FKK club you choose to visit next time.

Cheers.

Diplomat.Thanks for the elaboration. Actually, I am surprised that you are not a native English speaker. I thought that your post was well written.

Prost!

[KaveMan]

Respectfully, that's not a fair comparison.

First of all, a 7 day trip to Germany can easily be under $3000.

.. you are travelling with the wrong philosophical approach.

I suggest that you look at punting as a holiday activit...Good points.

Air form USA $1000.

Hotel from $150-200 night. Nice not motel.

Return Taxis ($50-75/ day).

FKK Entry $75-100

FKK session $75/ ea.

Food: $25-50 day.

Its adds up. Appreciate travel tips / recs.

I have been to Dusseldorf and actually like Germany quite alot.

Comparison is really on a competitive basis v. Globe Zurich or Privat Clubs (Aphrodisiac, Diskret, etc).

[Jmioffe]

Met Lulu for the first time in Palace actually. But this means nothing. Don't know Nika very much but Lulu was always very friendly and had many sessions with her. For sure a Pro but a nice girl. Wherever she will go, wish her luck.

After Annika, now Lulu and Nika, this is the end of the German Sofa Group as we know it. Love it or leave it.

Kimino.Aw. I was a big fan of this group. If anyone knows where they turn up, please let me know.

[Photographe]

Hi guys,

I wanted to start by thanking everyone here for their reports in this thread, without them I would never have known such a place as Artemis existed!

I'm in Berlin for a few days and went to Artemis for the first time on Thursday night, which was the big anniversary celebration night. In retrospect, maybe not the best night for a first time visit. It was quite busy and seemingly many more men there than available women. The atmosphere was festive however and not particularly off-putting, except that I do not enjoy clubs with loud music in general. So, the main room in Artemis was a bit much but overall it was fine. Quite a scene!

Okay, so I know I have read over and over here not to go with the first girl that approaches you, but I was cornered while exploring downstairs and I let my dick start doing my thinking for me! Her name was Nikki, or perhaps Nicky, from Hungary. I've looked for information about her on here and maybe it's the same girl, I'm not sure. She had dark hair, not blonde as in the descriptions I've read, but perhaps she has changed it. Large breasts, curvy body, nice large butt. I was attracted to her and she seemed sweet so off we went upstairs just a few minutes after I entered the club.

Once in the room is where I began making a series of rookie mistakes, and I think Nikki knew she had a real fish on her hook, if you catch my drift. We started out with a massage and I quickly agreed to extend our time to an hour so we could take things at a more relaxed pace. In the past I've sometimes had difficulty finishing if I feel rushed or nervous, so I was happy with this arrangement. We started off slowly, with her giving me a handjob at a relaxed pace while we talked a little bit. She asks if I'm sexually adventurous, and I tell her I like to think so. She offers anal because I've never tried it before, and I say okay (and agree to the added cost, no deception was happening here, I want to make sure this is clear). I tell her I'm only in Berlin for a few days and, being from somewhere where prostitution is illegal and I don't go, I'm not that concerned with the cost besides.

We 69 for a while (one of my favorites, and I really loved her big ass on my face), do anal for a few minutes, then switch to vaginal. Things are going okay but the condom is giving me some difficulty; not a lot of sensation so I start having a little trouble staying hard. We switch back to oral / hand for a few more minutes, then vaginal sex again. She starts asking if I've tried a prostate massage before, which I have done solo with myself, and I'm thinking I might as well try it here since it's not the kind of thing you can ask for with most girls unless you know them quite well and they're sexually open. This goes okay and I'm hard enough for a little more intercourse. But then I start worrying our time will run out and get inside my head again. So we finish things up with her pulling out all the stops, playing with my nipples, sucking and jerking me, me jerking myself, her kissing around my neck, talking dirty. Eventually I finish with a powerful orgasm and breathe a big sigh of relief. I wasn't worried about the money per se, but I would've felt bad if there wasn't an orgasm at the end of all that effort!

So between adding anal, prostate massage, extending our time several times, the final tally was 350! A bit of sticker shock for me having come to Artemis expecting to spend 60 or 120 at most on each girl. However, I had agreed to everything and she had been clear as we went, so I still felt okay about it, just a little annoyed at myself for spending so much so quickly. We got cleaned up and I paid her and we went our separate ways, myself going back to take a shower and regroup a little.

I had been traveling all day to get to Berlin, so I found I was quite drained after my first round. I spent some time just watching the club scene and ate some food at the buffet out by the pool. I even took a little nap in one of the pool chairs. Then I drank some Coca Cola hoping that the caffeine would wake me up again and get me ready for round two.

After maybe another hour or so wandering the club, watching some people have sex in the porno theaters, etc. , I finally started feeling horny again around maybe 2:30 or 3 am.

There was one dark-haired beauty I saw hanging around the bar area for a long time, but she was sitting in the lap of a man there who she seemed to know somewhat well. Maybe a regular client or just someone she was getting on with. I kept waiting to see if she might get up and start circulating again, but no such luck, she seemed to hang out there in the same place for more than an hour, she was still there every time I came back.

I was considering leaving until suddenly I saw her: another dark-haired, tan-skinned beautiful girl, doing a sexy dance for a prospective customer who seemed to politely decline. She began making the rounds around the club and I knew at once I had to pursue her. I quickly moved down from the raised area where I was sitting to the floor below where she was just coming around towards me next to the couches and the other girls. We made eye contact and I said something simple like "Hello" and it seemed she understood right away what was on my mind! No big surprise there.

Her name was Chaz, I believe, although I could have the spelling wrong. And she's from Turkey. We didn't waste much time talking downstairs, we went quickly upstairs to wait for a free room. It seems at that time of night the rooms get much busier and she seemed a bit weary of all that. We talked about how busy the club was tonight and she was saying if I wanted a calmer atmosphere I should come back a different day, perhaps Sunday, which I intend to do. I'm not much of a drinker and she was glad to finally be approached by, as she put it, "a regular guy" instead of an intoxicated one.

Once in the room, we got to it pretty quickly. I could tell she was a bit worn out from the evening's festivities and she acknowledged it but said it was okay, she was a tough girl. I even offered for us not to do anything, since I really do not enjoy the thought that it's 100% work for the girl, or exceedingly unpleasant. She reassured me things were okay so we both got undressed. What a stunning beauty! I would very much have loved kissing her, as in DFK, but she didn't initiate and I figured I wouldn't push it since she was tired and maybe not in the mood. Her oral skills were incredible; I would have been happy just to let her suck me for the entire time, I could have cum like that. But we did switch to sex, first missionary, then doggie. Again, condoms render these sensations pretty minimal so although we were going at it hard in doggie (and I was savoring the view of her beautiful hair, skin, and lovely ass) I wasn't much closer to orgasm, although I think with enough time it might've happened. But we switched to a combination of oral and HJ, which was heavenly. She seemed to know just the right pace. Not too fast, like so many girls, I like it a little slower so I can really enjoy the sensations. She was half-joking half-serious about how she wanted to "kill me" for taking so long to cum.

I eventually closed my eyes and concentrated and before long, I was there. I came a huge amount, and what's more, managed to hit myself in the face and hair! We both started laughing. I wasn't upset at all, I've done that on a few occasions before while masturbating. I guess I have pretty strong PC muscles or something. Whatever it is, I'm not that worried about it or about getting some on me. She said one time before that a guy who was a bit of jerk had done it, except some of it landed in his mouth and was quite upset about it. I'm a straight guy but for whatever reason I just do not have that many hangups about these kinds of things. I'm not worried about doing things some guys might worry are "gay" or whatever. If it's with myself, or a girl, it hardly seems gay to me! And besides, I'd almost like it if I were gay, or bi, since it would be a lot of fun to go cruising the way guys can. Alas, it seems I'm wired for women only.

Grand total: 60. Now, that's more like it! And I will certainly repeat with her if I am lucky enough to see her again. I'm going to read the more recent pages of this thread now and quite possibly return again to Artemis later tonight. I went my first day almost out of a sense of obligation, even though I was quite tired and not especially horny. Writing all this just now, and on a good night's sleep, I'm predicting a much more active outing this next time around!

[DarkNumber]

We talked about how busy the club was tonight and she was saying if I wanted a calmer atmosphere I should come back a different day, perhaps Sunday, which I intend to do.
Thanks for the report! I will be in Artemis today (Sunday) too! Maybe we will bump into each other.

[Rocketboy0]

Again, condoms render these sensations pretty minimalWhew, lots of info here. Anyway after a few more confessions, you are pardoned, not gay, and glad you had a good time. Thursday was an unusual day and things are back to normal now if you return.

The condoms on offer at Artemis are to use the technical term, shit. I think trash bags have similar sensitivity. It obviously does not bother many men, but RB is plenty bothered. So bring your own. Non-latex, poly-isophrene or polyethalene are a lot more sensitive, such as Durex Avanti Bare, Trojan Supras or Lifestyle Skyn Just carry them in an obviously safe secure pouch (so she sees you have not punched holes in it -seriously etc) and explain to the girl what you are doing. Most are ok with it.

You can rip it off at the last minute if you still want to practice target shooting or self facials. But they will feel a lot better.

[Buck Rogers]

The condoms on offer at Artemis are to use the technical term, shit. I think trash bags have similar sensitivity. It obviously does not bother many men, but RB is plenty bothered. So bring your own.I think those condoms have been tested to handle a fire extinguisher or something and likely are of the cheaper sort. That makes sense in such a place though. They don't bother me so much but still a bit yes. Never brought mine though, maybe next time.

[SuppenHuhn]

Her name was Chaz, I believe, although I could have the spelling wrong. And she's from Turkey. Your spelling is nearly right. Her name is Shaz http://www.fkk-artemis.de/page/girls/img_0593/ and she comes from Romania I think not Turkey.

[FeelzGood]

Hi guys,

I'll be visiting Art next weekend for the first time in approx. 1 year. Have any of you guys seen Sonia / Sonja around lately? (petite brunette, 20-ish, ROM). She is my fav.

Thanks!

[FeelzGood]

Hi guys!

I'll be visiting Art next weekend and wondered if anybody has seen Sonja / Sonia around lately? (petite brunette, 20-ish, ROM).

Thanks!

[Hessen Bub]

Aw. I was a big fan of this group. If anyone knows where they turn up, please let me know.Lulu and Nika are at Palace. At least they were end of this week and the week before.

HB.

[Simon Rex]

Her name was Chaz, I believe, although I could have the spelling wrong.The one with a dot / birth mark under her left eye-brow? She's from Turkey and usually sit on the sofas left to the bar with another Turkish girl named Alev.

[FlyByCable]

I apologize for any typos or incorrect sentences.

I went to the Artemis on the 9th birthday party and arrived at 11:30, I have about 7-8 hours to go to Berlin by car from Sweden so I use to have a little trip to Germany about 10-15 times a year, sometimes I also go to Frankfurt but this time the choice fell on Artemis, I really do like Artemis even there can be a lot of tourists sometimes, I started the day with having some relaxing time beside the cold indoor pool, I don't like to rush, Stayed there for an hour to charge up myself after the driving, then I went out to the outdoor pool area, it smelled wonderful out there by food, a great ox hung on the grill to cook, a catering company was there to do the food this day, I really looked forward to have some food later in the evening.

I lay by the pool for about 20 minutes and watched the people, decided to have a swim, fairly good weather, 21-22 degrees in the air, and the outdoor pool is always warm, the pool is preheated, I had a relaxing swim for about 25 minutes and was then starting to think about the best with Artemis and why I'm there, Girls and sex! I had a shower and then went out to hunt on the meet market, time was 14:00, I went in to the bar lounge and placed myself in a sofa with a cold cola light in my hand, I looked out over the market and the day to honor all the girls had some kind of sexy lingerie on themselves, no one was completely naked as otherwise may be the normal customary, All girls becomes more sexier with lingerie and push up, but It's make it harder to make the choice, It's easy to be disappointed when the underwear and push-up bra comes off, you don't know what you are going to get, Ha Ha.

A black woman came up to me where I was in the couch and asked if she could sit down, of course I said, she introduced herself as Angel from Nigeria, she said she was 28 years old, Quite a good looking girl with nice tits, We talked for a while and I asked her if she can give me a real good GFE moment with kisses and she said of course she can so we went to a room, we started to kiss, she did it good but not with so much tongue, but it was okay, I liked it, I started to caress her dark nice soft skin, She said my hands were a little dry and hard so she picked up a bottle with baby oil and asked me to rub and massage her back, I massaged her back and her beautiful ass for about 8-10 minutes and then I asked her to turn around, I wanted to play with some baby oil on her beautiful front side, It was wonderful to make her whole body slippery and wet with baby oil, I liked it very much and I think she did too.

I so decided to try to give her an orgasm, I started to kiss her whole body softly and gentle from up to down and slowly moved my kissing down to and around her beautiful pussy, Started to lick her and let my hands softly goes to the inside of her thighs and over her belly and breast, she responded well on my treatment and it seemed as if she was feeling real good, I was going on with my treatment for about 25 minutes and then she was breathing heavier and heavier, and threw her head back and closed her eyes and said, Yes Yes, Go on, I will come, 3-4 minutes later her body shakes into a lovely orgasm, I continue to lick her gently and carefully in a minute or two and then we were just laying there hugging each other and she breathing hard in my ear, was it good I ask, yes wonderful she says and she smiled with a beautiful smile and we had some nice kissing for a while.

We then lie there in the bed hugging and talking about things for about 15 minutes when she then grab my little friend who has falling to sleep, I'll wake him, she says, and she slowly begins to suck, My friend is of course quickly a wake, now I'm horny I can say, she give me a blowjob for about 10 minutes, Not the best I had in my life, but quite okay, I say I want to fuck her and she put the condom on and we start with the missionary for some minutes and she all the time look me in the eyes, and then we change to doggy, It only takes a couple of minutes before I can't handle it anymore and I come inside her pussy, Lovely! She gave me exactly what I wanted, we were in the room for 1 hour and 45 minutes and I gave her payment for 2 hours. I took a long nice shower and I then went out to the outdoor pool for some swimming and relaxing, trying to charge up again.

I stayed out there for little more than an hour before I decide to take a walk inside, Looking around after another babe I want to find, a babe named Belinda, but I can't find her, So after a while (time is close to 17:00) I came to speak with a girl called herself for Sharon, she says she come from Ukraine, we decided to go to a room, immediately she starts to nag about anal and everything that's extra, but I say no thanks, I DON'T like anal at all, nothing for me, we so agree on 30 minutes normal sex and additional CIM, we start with a little kissing, she is a good kisser I think, after 4-5 minutes she starts with the blow job, which she does quite well, but I can't come, so we start to fuck in missionary for a while and then we go back to the blow job, but I can't come, She starts to nag about selling prostate massage, but I say no, because I don't like things in my ass, let's try doggy I say and we do that for about 8-10 minutes and so finally I feel that I will come, so I do, I don't tell her, Hell! She gets angry, she shows a unhappy face and give me a slap on my arm, No do not be angry, I say, and I put my hand on her cheek in an attempt to appease her, she gets up out of bed and start taking her clothes on, with a angry face she then says you owe me 110 euro, No just 60, I say, You promised me 50 extra for CIM, she says, I sigh deeply and say, okay, 110 euro you will get, so we went down and I give her 110 euro, I know it's wrong but I just don't have any energy to argue with her, She is a beautiful girl with a nice face, and she is a good kisser, but I will not repeat her.

I take a nice shower again and then it's time for food, of course I eat too much and I become a little tired so I go for a sleep down stairs beside the indoor pool, the clock is running away and the time will be 20:30 when I feel myself in a mood for some more girls again, I so go up to the bar and sit myself down for a while, I see a girl I have been with before a couple of times, Diana, a very nice, slim and funny girl but she disappears before I can speak to her, I suddenly see Angel again sitting on a couch all alone so I put myself down with her, we speak for 10-15 minutes and then she says that she want more time with me so we once again decides to go to a room, It's a long wait for the rooms upstairs, lots of people here now, like a crowded Saturday, So we decided to go to an outdoor room, but it is the same there, four couple before us is waiting for a room, Angel asks me if we should go to the Jacuzzi and put us down for a while, so we do that, we sit there for half an hour and hugging and cuddling and kissing with each other, that's nice, after 30 minutes we see that a room outdoor is free so we go there and have some fucking for 30 minutes, Once again I come when we doing the doggy. Wonderful!

One more shower and then some relaxing in the outdoor pool, nice and warm, You know guys, in October it's not possible to be in an outdoor pool in Sweden, the pool time in Sweden is maybe three weeks in July and maybe two in the August, so I have to take the opportunity for a nice swim when I can.

After some swim and some visit in the sauna time had become midnight and my little friend once again started to think about sex, I went in to the crowded bar and tried to find a place to sit down, All girls seemed to be very busy, I sat there for sure an hour without finding someone who attracted so I started thinking about going to the hotel, Just then it came up a girl I met before, she calls herself Iris or Iriz? She has said to be from Malaysia, I have had a very nice session with her earlier this year, That time she gave me a real good body massage with VERY much of oil, and when I say VERY, I really mean a LOT of oil, We nearly drowned in oil, It was a VERY slippery and funny session, She's really not my dream girl but she is quite okay anyway, so we went to a room and I told her that I just want to have some normal sex for 30 minutes this time, But she was really nagging about extra this time, Anal and CIM and prostate massage, I was surprised she nagged so much and I told her, NO, several times, We fucked in different positions for about 12-15 minutes before I said stop, I was not in the mood to listen to her complaining of the extra selling, She seemed very stressed this night, I left the room without any orgasm and paid her 60 euro for 30 minutes, This time I was disappointed about her, I took a shower and then decided to leave this wonderful building for this time and go to the hotel for some much needed sleep. I know that I will come back very soon to Artemis and the others of the wonderful FKKs in Germany.

Just one boring thing to see when I came out to the car, When I was in the room with Iris she asked me if I had seen the fireworks earlier that night, And I said, oh no, I sadly missed that show, When I came out to the car I realized that the fireworks had not missed me or rather my car I should say, I had a big crack in the windshield on my one year old car from a firework rocket, And the rest of the rocket was laying there on the engine hood, Fuck!

I would appreciate advice on girls that you know, provides a good GFE.

Thanks

[Rocketboy0]

When I came out to the car I realized that the fireworks had not missed me or rather my car I should say, I had a big crack in the windshield on my one year old car from a firework rocket, And the rest of the rocket was laying there on the engine hoodHej FbC, quite the report. Just like the old Letters to Penthouse days. I had to spray water on my computer screen to put the flames out..

But on the missile attack:

Did you report this to the management, before disturbing the evidence? Surely they would have done something? Unless of course the rocket had Russian markings on it.


I would appreciate advice on girls that you know, provides a good GFE.This is really mostly a chemistry thing that you just have to sort out between her and you. Some girls seem to have sort of a reputation for it eg Nina, Fatima, Jenna, Vegas, Amalia, Debby, Ina, Ping, Malik, others. Some RB knows, some he don't. I bet Kimino would include some more except he probably can't remember their names (and some might not even be alive).

But what I or anyone else might think is irrelevant, as you might not agree with the chemistry part, your definition of GFE might be different, and as always YMMV. No easy way. Just have to go with the flow.

[Photographe]

So I couldn't help myself and went back to Artemis on Saturday night. Much more relaxed atmosphere, less noise, less smoke, less people, for my preferences just better overall.

When I first arrived I said to myself I would wait and not go with the first girl to approach me this time. This was just as much about letting excitement and arousal build and easing into the environment as it was any hesitation about finding the 'right' girl. I walked over by the upstairs cinema and was approached by an older woman, whose name I can't remember, but I believe said she was from Mali. She told me a little about her extra services like massage and relaxation therapy, in addition to the usual blowjob / sex menu. I didn't want to see anyone that quickly and truth be told I was also not feeling much chemistry with her so I tried to politely decline by saying I had just arrived and needed a little time to myself first. She seemed to take slight offense to this saying that Americans often tell her this reason, and then go with other girls. Well, so be it I suppose, I had to be a little firm and just restate that I wasn't interested "for now. " Unfortunately I did see her again about an hour later, having just come down from upstairs, and walked quickly past her with a smile and wave, so it seems her estimation about what I would do was correct.

So about the first visit upstairs, after I was in the club for a few minutes and grabbed a soft drink from the pool area, I went back in the bar and made a circle around the room to see who was there. I bumped into Nikki / Nicky almost right away and we started chatting in a friendly manner. She has a very laid back manner about her which I like a lot. I wasn't intending to have a session with her but after a few minutes she started making light touches on me, rubbing her knee up against my crotch in a playful manner, hugging me, and I got really turned on and thought, what the hell, why not, so I laughed and asked her if she wanted to go upstairs, which of course we did. It was a nice session, a good way to start the night. Nothing earth shattering but it's nice being with someone who's conscientious of your specific likes and dislikes. There was no crazy upselling although we did end up doing CIM extra. Total €110.

Afterwards, I went out to the buffet to grab some food and recharge a little. Nikki had come from the showers out to eat some food herself and we sat together and chatted for a few minutes. I was having a little difficulty making conversation because I'm reluctant to poke and prod too much about the girls' personal lives so it leaves me a little vexed as to how to proceed. We chatted a little about the food options around Artemis, she advised me not to take the train too late at night even though they run 24 hours on the weekend, that sort of thing. After a few minutes she went back into Artemis and I went downstairs for a little time in the pool and sauna area.

After that I came out and sat in the downstairs cinema. I realize now it's much more of a cruising area; girls see you sitting on a couch alone and assume you are wanting sex. This is when Irene from Romania (I believe) came over to me. A stunning, fit blonde with a beautiful face and amazing breasts, she moved in very close to me and looked into my eyes asking if I wanted sex and I could not resist even though I at first made some attempts to get her to sit next to me and talk a bit. We first tried to get a room upstairs (my preference, a little more privacy) but things were full and I could tell she wanted to get things going quickly. We went back down to the cinema and one of the curtained-off rooms there. Blowjob, missionary (nice eye contact during this part), then more blowjob and HJ to finish. I finished in a pretty spectacular manner, which got quite a bit on Irene because she was striding across me with her lovely butt in my face while she stroked me. I could tell she was non too happy about this but didn't say much other than just kind of laughing and shaking her head with a slight frown. €60.

After this I went back upstairs and ate a little more food. I met a guy from Italy who sat with me and ate and talked for a while. We talked about the different girls in the club and certain tendencies we noticed about who was more businesslike and who was more relaxed. I was a little thrown off by my encounter with Irene. We hardly said two words of any substance to each other, and I had been having sex with her within maybe 15 minutes of ever seeing her which was exciting but also a little strange. We agreed we both like a little less wham-bam of an approach when possible and HE told me a little about some of the other FKK clubs around Germany. After a few minutes, Shaz came out and spotted me and joined us. She seemed quite happy to see me which was a pleasant surprise because I thought the other night maybe I had annoyed her a little by taking so long to finish. She played footsie with me under the table while we ate but I wasn't quite ready to go for another round, so after a few minutes she went back inside and I chatted with my Italian friend for a few more minutes.

Back inside, I looked for Shaz but I gather she had gone upstairs with someone. Not surprising, a girl like her I'm sure stays quite busy. Well, now there was a rather imposing, tall girl with a beautiful face who I spotted but was actually a little intimidated to approach her! In a way she's quite like girls I see sometimes in real life and feel the same way about: I just think they won't like me at all, their beauty is almost threatening somehow, their features not giving any real indication of personal warmth. I was trying to work up the nerve to approach her but she went off with another guy. I decided I needed a break anyway and went down to the pool / sauna for a while.

I came back upstairs and still couldn't find Shaz, but this girl was back. This time she was sitting alone on one of the round couches behind the bar with her legs spread and clearly inviting any man who had the desire and the nerve to go speak to her! I finally approached her and introduced myself. Her name was Elektra. I forget now where she said she was from. I don't think she's the same Elektra I found when I searched this thread, who was described as dyed-blonde. Or perhaps she went back to her natural brown / dark hair since then. Anyways, I asked her if she liked to do kissing or 69, and she said kissing not really and 69 was all right, but not for a €60 / half-hour session. At that point I probably should have just said okay, thanks, see you, but I was so hung-up on how she looked and what her looks represented to me personally in terms of unapproachable gorgeous women that I just decided I should do it anyway. Regret something I have done rather than not done for once.

Things went similar as with Irene; not a bad performance, but rather impersonal. It being my third session of the day, I also had a little more difficulty cumming. I was pretty close in the blowjob but I couldn't quite get over the line. She tried with her hand for a while, but I just kept hovering near orgasm, seemingly unable to relax and focus the rest of the way. Ultimately we finished by her masturbating while I watched and worked on myself. That was quite nice, us looking at each other as we did it, even though to get the last bit of the way I had to close my eyes and think of some other erotic imagery. How strange! Well, that was another €60 session with not bad sex but also pretty impersonal.

Back in the main room, I finally saw Shaz again although I had just finished with Elektra and I needed a few minutes before going again. I told her I was going to go take a little nap downstairs and made sure she would still be around when I got done. Maybe 20 or 30 minutes later I came back upstairs and found her again after a few nervous minutes of not spotting her anywhere. She had to go wash up from another session but I waited out in the round area. While waiting there I encountered a few more girls I hadn't seen much inside, a couple of them I was interested in spending time with but politely explained I was waiting for someone else now but perhaps later.

Finally Shaz was done and we were on our way upstairs. It was probably 2:30 or 3 AM at this point. I warned her this was my fourth session today and she playfully joked she wanted to kill me again for always making her work so hard. No real details needed for this session but it was a good one, and I promised her I would try to see her earlier in the evening next time when we were both less tired!

So, that's my second Artemis trip, overall a very good experience. A couple just-okay sessions but both taught me important things I think I'll take with me into my dating life outside the P4P world. Namely, that looks are not such a big deal if there is not also chemistry! You have to trust your instincts and go with what feels right. I haven't been with that many women in my life so I'm still learning a lot. I do hope I can reach the GFE level with a girl at Artemis at some point, as I think that more than anything would put me over the edge during regular sex rather than having to rely so often on manual stimulation.

I'm undecided but leaning towards another visit tonight (Sunday) as I am only in town a couple more days and then I don't know how long before I'll be back, if ever! I'm almost embarrassed at becoming such a regular there, but I suppose I should make the best of the opportunity while I still have it. I can see how this place could become very habit forming if you lived in Germany.

[Kimino]

I bet Kimino would include some more except he probably can't remember their names (and some might not even be alive).I did file a request to management to ask that girls wear plates (or at least flags and numbers) but I have the feeling it didn't get through. LOL.

BTW Vegas usually present on weekdays? (To me Wednesday is a weekday, just in case...)

Kimino.

[FlyByCable]

Hej FbC, quite the report. Just like the old Letters to Penthouse days. I had to spray water on my computer screen to put the flames out..

But on the missile attack:

Did you report this to the management, before disturbing the evidence? Surely they would have done something? Unless of course the rocket had Russian markings on it.

This is really mostly a chemistry thing that you just have to sort out between her and you. Some girls seem to have sort of a reputation for it eg Nina, Fatima, Jenna, Vegas, Amalia, Debby, Ina, Ping, Malik, others. Some RB knows, some he don't. I bet Kimino would include some more except he probably can't remember their names (and some might not even be alive).

But what I or anyone else might think is irrelevant, as you might not agree with the chemistry part, your definition of GFE might be different, and as always YMMV. No easy way. Just have to go with the flow.Thanks, Ha ha ha, No there was not an Intercontinental ballistic missile from Russia, Just a small one from China, Made in Taiwan I guess? But even a small angry Chinese can do great damage when HE kicks you on your balls.

When I came home late the next day I started to think about that I maybe should have made a report to the management immediately when I saw the damage but it's always easy to be wise one day later.

Well, my insurance will take the bang, just boring money to pay almost 400 euro for that shit.

And yes, that's true what you are saying about GFE, about the definition of GFE.

I've had a few really good GFE moments on the FKK both at the Artemis and in Frankfurt, I always looking for a real good GFE moment, GFE is important for me, but it can be some sort of a lottery to get what you want, But I have learn to sit down with the girl for a while and be clear against her with what I want to have from her, But some girls say "yes of course!" to all questions.

I guess I've been with about 20 girls at Artemis but I have not actually been with any of them as you counted up, I must learn to recognize them better. Nina and Jenna I recognize but I have never been with them in a room, they always seem to be very busy.

Oh well, there will be new opportunities further ahead to go with the flow.

And as Kimino says, A flag on the girl would do the work, good idea, Ha Ha Ha.

[Rocketboy0]

Vegas usually present on weekdays? (To me Wednesday is a weekday, just in case...)Kimino.Well at the moment, yes. But 3 days from now, who knows. And then there is present, but unavailable, as in Saturday night, some dude with a lot of champagne and even more euros captured V and 4 others for hours. The rest of us paupers just gave up.

[Pharisaer]

BTW Vegas usually present on weekdays? (To me Wednesday is a weekday, just in case...)Usually? Don't know. But, for sure, spotted her at various weekdays, including Wednesdays.

[Nr 71]

Going back to Artemis in about 10 days, I am very much looking forward to it!

As last visit I go to Berlin from Scandinavia just to visit this German paradise.

I have read so much on this thread about Nina and Fatima, I would really want to try them both.

How do I find them?

Pics on Artemis' website is a little helpful, but not very much. Anyone has some good advice?

[Frozty]

I did file a request to management to ask that girls wear plates (or at least flags and numbers) but I have the feeling it didn't get through. LOL.

BTW Vegas usually present on weekdays? (To me Wednesday is a weekday, just in case...)

Kimino.I often see her on Monday's and Tuesday's, my regular days.

[Jmioffe]

Lulu and Nika are at Palace. At least they were end of this week and the week before.

HB.Thanks HB! Alas, Annika, my favorite, is long gone I suppose. Are the rumors true?

[Simon Rex]

On my last visit I spotted a dark skinned girl who I wanted to go with but I never got the chance since she always seemed busy. One of the other girls told me her name is Marisol. She seemed a little bit arrogant as well although I never talked to her. Does anyone know her?

[Bearsk]

Hej FbC, quite the report. Just like the old Letters to Penthouse days. I had to spray water on my computer screen to put the flames out...To be honest, it would have been one of the better Letters to Penthouse.

And. Did your screen needed a clean anyway.

[Pistons]

What does this Vegas girl look like?

Anyone got a link to a picture of her, or a description? I cannot see her on the website.

[Rocketboy0]

What does this Vegas (or Nina or Fatima) girl look like?V is tall, thin, chiseled features, big enhanced guns, lots (LOTS) of tats, wears different wigs from short blond pageboy to long, hangs out at the front / beginning of the main bar. Pretty difficult to miss. Think of what the girl next door would never look like. Taller and not as super thin as her dark haired amigo Lea who might have been to the same body shop, and not to be confused with Leura who hangs out at the sofas behind the bar. V knows she is hot, very in demand, she can be very cool upon first contact, and obviously chemistry will need to be there, so don't proceed if you feel intimidated. RB just does not care after his lobotomy. But in the room, have a fire extinguisher nearby.

All descriptions of limited use, as are the website photos (V & L not there). The pix of Nina and Fatima are a reasonable guide.

But as all readers of dass Fuckingforum know , you either call ahead, or ask at the front desk to see if X is even in that day (and they might not know til 8 pm). Then inside, just ask one of the barristas or a security guy to point someone out, or ask another girl.

* * *

Marisol - very attractive and sexy, but actually very quiet in the room, kind of ethereal and distant, which you could mistake for arrogance (but really, who can be arrogant working at the FickFabrik..). RB kept thinking this is what cloud-based sex must be like. While YMMV, she sure does know how to use those lips.

* * *

Bearsk - I hope you will start Monday at the office with a dramatic reading of that letter, just to see who is paying attention.

[Member #4347]

I came back upstairs and still couldn't find Shaz, but this girl was back. This time she was sitting alone on one of the round couches behind the bar with her legs spread and clearly inviting any man who had the desire and the nerve to go speak to her! I finally approached her and introduced myself. Her name was Elektra. I forget now where she said she was from. I don't think she's the same Elektra I found when I searched this thread, who was described as dyed-blonde. Or perhaps she went back to her natural brown / dark hair since then. Anyways, I asked her if she liked to do kissing or 69, and she said kissing not really and 69 was all right, but not for a 60 / half-hour session. At that point I probably should have just said okay, thanks, see you, but I was so hung-up on how she looked and what her looks represented to me personally in terms of unapproachable gorgeous women that I just decided I should do it anyway. Regret something I have done rather than not done for once.

Things went similar as with Irene; not a bad performance, but rather impersonal. It being my third session of the day, I also had a little more difficulty cumming. I was pretty close in the blowjob but I couldn't quite get over the line. She tried with her hand for a while, but I just kept hovering near orgasm, seemingly unable to relax and focus the rest of the way. Ultimately we finished by her masturbating while I watched and worked on myself. That was quite nice, us looking at each other as we did it, even though to get the last bit of the way I had to close my eyes and think of some other erotic imagery. How strange! Well, that was another 60 session with not bad sex but also pretty impersonal. Hi Photographe, thank you for those reports. I believe it is likely the girl you met was not Elektra but Alektra. She is one of the tallest girls around and is German Turkish with natural boobs, mostly sitting on the couch on the right hand directly after you enter the main room. The couch is also home of the famous German Sofa Group. I know it is impossible to always get the names right especially if you are not a regular guest at Artemis. But correcting the names makes sense anyway because it helps searching the thread for a particular girl.

Personally I don't find Alektra unattractive but somehow a little boring. She talked to me a few times but since I never went with her she now started ignoring me which is allright for me anyway.

Cheers.

Diplomat.

[Ray Reddington]

After missing last year's birthday party, I made sure not to miss this year's, resulting in my second visit at Artemis. First time round I went on a Wednesday night, since I find girls in lingerie a bigger turn on compared to just plane nudes. This might be in part due to Playboy's Playmate: Tiffany Taylor (Miss November 1998) and her wonderful lingerie shots! However, I agree with fellow ISG members when it comes to "the goods": sometimes that push-up bra makes it difficult to choose because it's hard to figure out what one gets. Presently my number one criteria when it comes to choosing would be big boobs!

I arrived around 6 pm and bumped into my guide who helped me stay sane during my first visit. Was great to catch up and we later shared some of that fantastic catering (I had roasted ox with grilled vegetables and potato wedges as a side) with a fellow (distinguished) ISG member. It's great to have some seasoned people around who are willing to share their experiences, which in this case was the wonderful Nina.

Nina:

A cute girl from the Czech Republic. If you're looking for GFE and the chemistry is right she's the one. We had 1 1/2 hours of kissing (not on the lips), hugging and very slow sex. I managed to get a hold of Nina outside the shower area (main entrance). I approached her and asked her whether it was ok to spend an hour. She said yes and we made our way to one of the rooms in the back of Artemis where the outdoor pool area was. After undressing we lay down on the bed where we cuddled for a while. Then I started kissing her all over her body and sucking on her breasts. There was no kissing on her lips or DATY. However it was the light kissing and teasing what would turn us both on and made her incredibly wet. When she started to nibble on me, I said not to be shy and go ahead and bite me, which she happily did giggling asking whether I'the like to play it rough. I feel that Nina quickly adapts to the situation and as long as there's mutual respect she can be very accommodating. After blowing on my member, she saddled up and took me for a ride which felt great. I then put her on her back and did a very slow and gentle fuck, missionary style, which turned her crazy, and made me come hard in her tight, wet pussy. All in all a very satisfying session and definitely a repeat.

Since I was exhausted, I decided to take a break and enjoy the whirlpool, sauna and downstairs 'quite area'. I didn't bring my watch so never knew what time it was. However after recovering, I believe around 2.30 am I was hanging around the stair case and lay my eyes on naked Jasmina: Slim girl, dark hair, big tits from Moldovia. She's a pretty up front girl: She caught my stare and almost shouted across: "Do you like this body!" I nodded, do you like to "Fuck it", I nodded again. So we went upstairs and waited for a room.

Jasmina:

She's definitely more business oriented: after I requested an hour with her, she asked me if I knew how much it would cost. While waiting for a room, sitting on the sofa, she explained again that I also had to pay for extras (e. G. Prostata Massage). Now the Jekyll and Hyde I'am and after that wonderful loving session with Nina, I found this business like behavior a big turn on. But poor Jasmina didn't know or at least didn't expect: when we went to the room I asked her not to take off her dress while I would caress her from behind, kissing her neck moving my hands down her body. I could see her rolling her eyes in the mirror, which turned me on even more. This would be an interesting session: after taking off her dress I asked her to lay down while I would move my hands all over her body. I assume because it was late and maybe she wasn't up for it, she just lay there and looked bored. This really turned me on and I asked her to rub my member hard with her hands. After a while she proceeded to a light blow job and from there it moved on to penetrating her missionary style. I almost came, but just before stopped and asked her to play with herself while I would gently stroke myself. She agreed and continued until climax, the same time I finished myself off. What an interesting experience. So would I repeat? Well depends on the mood and if on occasion you find rejection a big turn on.

After taking a final swim downstairs and enjoying the sauna, I left Artemis around 4.30. Now I just need to find that spare time in my busy schedule to return and try some of the other girls recommended by fellow ISG members. There's still so much to explore.

Ray

[Dutedrac]

V is tall, thin, chiseled features, big enhanced guns, lots (LOTS) of tats, wears different wigs from short blond pageboy to long, hangs out at the front / beginning of the main bar. Pretty difficult to miss. Think of what the girl next door would never look like. Taller and not as super thin as her dark haired amigo Lea who might have been to the same body shop, and not to be confused with Leura who hangs out at the sofas behind the bar. V knows she is hot, very in demand, she can be very cool upon first contact, and obviously chemistry will need to be there, so don't proceed if you feel intimidated. RB just does not care after his lobotomy. But in the room, have a fire extinguisher nearby.
All descriptions of limited use, as are the website photos (V & L not there). Vegas was quite popular as Nicky in GT for some time.

Tough chick, very smart. Understands what makes sex so much fun.

I think she fits much better in the Berliner Fick Fabrik (besonders wegen die Preisliste).

[Rocketboy0]

if on occasion you find rejection a big turn onSay hay Ray. As witness to the crime, glad it all worked out.

But, if you really like this rejection thing, and want to save a lot of money, I have a secret tip for you:

It is called the real world. :D:

[DarkNumber]

Ok than if you'll see her please tell her that the guy from Iasi (when you say it it should sound like Iashi) think of her and didn't came to say goodbye because he broke his leg. And give her a kiss for me and try not to go inside with her it will make me jealous. LOL.Sorry man, did not see her.


Afterwards, I went out to the buffet to grab some food and recharge a little. Nikki had come from the showers out to eat some food herself and we sat together and chatted for a few minutes. I was having a little difficulty making conversation because I'm reluctant to poke and prod too much about the girls' personal lives so it leaves me a little vexed as to how to proceed.Yeah, I am also a bit confused on what to talk about with the girls without getting into their personal life.


So, that's my second Artemis trip, overall a very good experience. A couple just-okay sessions but both taught me important things I think I'll take with me into my dating life outside the P4P world. Namely, that looks are not such a big deal if there is not also chemistry!I came to this conclusion as well after my visit there yesterday. Does not matter if you are banging the most beautiful girl in the world, if you two do not click with each other then you might as well spend your time jerking off to some internet porn instead.

[Frozty]

Yeah, I am also a bit confused on what to talk about with the girls without getting into their personal life.

I came to this conclusion as well after my visit there yesterday. Does not matter if you are banging the most beautiful girl in the world, if you two do not click with each other then you might as well spend your time jerking off to some internet porn instead.One of the reasons that I like to repeat is that we the relationship becomes a bit more like friends, and we share updates on each others lives. It amazes me how good some of their memories are! With a new girl, I am very cautious about where I take the conversation so as not to pry.

I like the 'girl next door' look, but every now and then I will pick for looks alone. I would say that those sessions are often worse, on average. That could be my fault rather than the girl.

[Photographe]

Another day, another Artemis trip report from me!

I went again after my post on Sunday night. Truth be told, as I was taking the train to Westkreuz I began to doubt whether I even wanted to go or not. I was a bit sexed out and tired from sightseeing in the city earlier in the day, but I said to myself I would regret it if I gave up another opportunity to visit Artemis since it's almost time for me to leave Berlin. But all the same, I was a little down in my mood and starting the feel the sameness in this pattern: every night, the train out to Westkreuz, the same solitary walk down the highway to the club, what I assume must be the same knowing looks from people in their cars as they drive past on the highway seeing a guy by himself walking in that direction at night. Oh well, on to the club.

I arrived around 23 h and, as promised, the place was far less busy than I'd ever seen it before. I thought this would be appealing but in reality I found it a bit depressing. Perhaps it's my own projections but I felt I could sense a certain weariness and tiredness from many of the girls as well, because business was slow. More women were approaching more but I knew it was just a question of money; I wasn't suddenly a more enticing option for any other reason.

I saw Shaz again and she, too, seemed rather tired and a bit annoyed with me for once again arriving so late. We went up to the room and had a pretty good session. We talked after and agreed that tomorrow, my last day, we would meet earlier and try some different condoms that allow for more sensitivity. €60.

Not long after, in fact just as I was coming out from the showers, I ran into Nicky on the round stairs area. I was feeling a bit more fired up so, somewhat impulsively, I went ahead and went with her to a room downstairs. By now we have found a good routine of positions and things that works well so things went smoothly. Ended up doing COF as an extra this time, €110.

After these two back-to-back sessions I needed a good rest. I headed for the pool and sauna. After probably 30 or 45 minutes, I ate some food upstairs and was ready to see if there were any other new girls around that I was interested in. Some of the other girls that had caught my eye on previous nights unfortunately didn't seem to be around this night. Alektra was there, but that was not a session worth repeating, and I say that knowing the feeling is probably mutual!

There was a tall girl with long blonde hair I had seen around a few times that I had been looking for. She had a very nice ass and an overall warm and sexy way about her, always smiling. Watching her walk around the room, I started to get really turned on. But just to be sure I stayed a little while longer and made sure I didn't see anyone else. And the girl seemed to disappear a few minutes later. Damn. More time wandering and looking, saying polite hellos to the other girls, talking a little here and there with girls I've been with before.

I sat down on one of the couches behind the bar and realized this same blonde girl was at the bar talking to a customer. I was admiring her body from a few feet away and after a minute we made eye contact and smiled at each other. This happened a few more times as she seemed to be winding down her conversation with the guy who perhaps wasn't going to act decisively then to have a session with her, or maybe they had previously. Finally she came over to me and we introduced ourselves.

Her name was, I believe, I'la. I asked her how to spell it and I think that's right, but I see no other mention or that name or any other name that's close to it in this thread, so I don't know. She's Russian, from St. Petersburg I believe. We talked a little about what we both like, she asked me if I like to go fast or more slow, I eagerly said more slow, romantic, not so rushed like some girls. She smiled and said okay, she likes this better too. We went upstairs.

It ended up being my best session at Artemis by far, a total GFE. Finally a girl who is okay with doing DFK and is comfortable in general with her body and yours! For long stretches we were talking and kissing and just enjoying being physically close with each other, nothing overtly sexual. It being my third session of the day, and coming after a long week with a lot of sex as well, my batteries were pretty low but with her, there was no problem. She even came during our 69, the only girl I brought to orgasm at Artemis. We ended up spending about 90 minutes in the room, without discussing it. I knew we had to be going over time but I wasn't the least bit concerned about it. I could've stayed in there with her all night, and in fact basically did, because when we left the room it was about 4:50 am and Artemis was closing.

She's a student with one year of schooling left, and was going to drive back to her university that night (it seems she alternates weeks at Artemis and at school). I was very sad to hear she wouldn't be there the next night which would be my last in Berlin, but at the same time I was really happy that this sweet girl was far along in higher education and would have other work opportunities in the future. Anyways, I will keep with me many pleasant memories of my time with her and miss her terribly. The sad thing is I had seen her my other days at Artemis as well, and felt some kind of intuition about her, but didn't act on it. Oh well, at least we had the one great session.

So that was my third night at Artemis. It ended up being a very good decision to go in the end.

[DarkNumber]

One of the reasons that I like to repeat is that we the relationship becomes a bit more like friends, and we share updates on each others lives. It amazes me how good some of their memories are! With a new girl, I am very cautious about where I take the conversation so as not to pry.

I like the 'girl next door' look, but every now and then I will pick for looks alone. I would say that those sessions are often worse, on average. That could be my fault rather than the girl.Yeah, I was very surprised how all the girls I had been with on my first time in Artemis a year ago remembered me! How do they do that? Don't they have like hundreds of customers each year?

[Blover34]

Darknumber,

Thank you to remember and at least you tried, I'm sure that you would have seen her you would have like the way she look she's amazing.

[AltimaTravels]

I booked my weekend trip some months ago, not realising that it would coincide with the Birthday Party, having not been to such an event before, I was looking forward to it.

I arrived at about 10 pm. As has been noted before, the clothes that the girls wear either enhances their looks. Or not.

A different vibe was evident, mostly German and Turkish guys. More drunks than usual. One older Turkish guy (the owner?) was clearly high status and was being greeted with kisses.

And deference by the Turkish contingent. The girls were partying to various extents. Jenna was happily dancing away at the restaurant end of the bar and by evening end was very, very drunk. Being chaperoned around by one of her regular clients as she cheerfully wobbled about the place.

Interestingly Vegas was also very drunk and equally unhappy. Clearly upset by something. There were tears and mascara running down her face at one point. Last time I saw her she was being looked after by Sandra.

I hooked up with. Here I have to admit I cannot remember her name. Can somebody help? Thai girl, pretty, best figure of the Thai girls I think, quite wide face with high cheek bones, a close of friend of Pinky. She was wearing a very fetching little black dress that evening. I get confused between Kimmy and Kammy and Katty and so on. Pinky I always remember as she is a great, great provider but now working in Munich apparently. All of the rooms were busy, so we queued for one of the outside room, chatting between us and with Nina and her customer. A great session, took an hour to include an excellent massage.

Later I hooked up with Bella, she was in a good mood and was passionate in the room. Bella always seems to enjoy my oral efforts and remembers me as a result.

Great fireworks, great BBQ food, the beef and pork were particularly good. I left at 4 and headed to IBIS Messe.

Friday was back to normal. A steady increase in the number of people through the day, although not hugely busy in the evening. I saw Bella again. I also to the lovely Vanessa to a room. Vanessa is the beautiful black girl with shoulder length straight hair, a shapely large bum and an enhanced chest. I last went with her about a year ago and her levels of service and intimacy have increased in that time, at least in my experience. She too enjoys being DATY and by the time we got down to sex, no lube was needed.

Jenna was in place at 11 am but she looked wrecked, but to her credit, stuck it out and made it through the day. Vegas appeared late PM, hung around for a few hours and then disappeared. I didn't see her take any customers.

Lastly I went with Jacqueline. Another black girl, new to me, from Latin America. Wearing a revealing dress which showed her natural breasts off wonderfully. Great service. French kissing, nice oral, enthusiastic sex. That was it for Friday. I headed off at 10 pm, feeling exhausted.

Saturday. I have often watched Marta as she walks about the place. Tall. Slim, long dark hair. Tends to keep her towel wrapped around her waist. I suspect that this is because she does have quite long labia, which are very visible, deliciously slow. She doesn't smile much and I haven't seen her approach many guys before. I watched her approach a guy, smile (beautifully) and sensually entwine him in her arms, murmuring in his ears and stroking his head and neck. Now, many girls so that, but from Marta, this was something special. The guy succumbed, so after an hour or so, I caught Marta's eye and we went upstairs. Sod it! I wish I had done this before! Hugely enjoyable, sensuous, intimate, a wonderfully smooth pussy, those long labia begging to be licked and sucked. So I did.

I then chilled, read my book by the pool outside (great weather all weekend) and wandered about taking in the scenery. I have always had fun with Aleph, not in a room, but just laughing and joking. I finally took her to a room. For me, she was OK, not spectacular, rather that restrained. She made a bit of a fuss about my cock being "too big". For info. My cock is nothing extraordinary. I won't repeat the sex but will confine myself to light hearted joking with Aleph in future.

A last session with Bella, that woman turns me on like few others. She now works 4-ish days on (Thursday PM to close of play Sunday at 5 am) and 10-ish days off, so being there when she is there is a 50/50 bet. I could count the weekends and work it out, but the variables over 3 or 4 months make such a calculation unreliable; and I can't be arsed.

Sunday was as usual quiet. My Thai lady was due to come in on Sunday, but didn't. Nobody else grabbed my attention especially, so I didn't bother. I chilled, read, gazed and naked ladies, had dinner and left for the airport.

[Member #4347]

Hi AltimaTravels.

I find your report both informative and entertaining for the most part.

I am sorry if what I am going to say will sound as if I want to patronize you. I surely don't want to do that.

But reporting about who was drunk and who cried and naming NAMES so that the whole world knows is something we really should not do. I know the women you mentioned and I do like and respect them a lot. But even if I didn't know them I would never want to put their feelings or their grief on public display. They are professionals but they are still human beings. I am sure you are an educated and respectful man so please grant those women the respect they deserve.

Thank you for understanding.

Diplomat.

[Rocketboy0]

They are professionals but they are still human beings. I am sure you are an educated and respectful man so please grant those women the respect they deserve.Herr D, I agree with you on this, but you raise a complex issue.

We discuss girls' sexual performance and looks in great detail and that is deemed ok, but other observations are not, as if the boundary lines on privacy are clear? To me, all just murky grey. Which vices or displays of emotion or behaviour are off limits; sloppy blowjobs, drooping labia, are ok, but drinking til getting sotted is not?

I personally tend to go light on intimate details beyond just a general description of looks and how things went in a session, precisely because I think there are boundaries of privacy to be respected. Others treat the forum like writing a screenplay or a diary, what we call "Letters to Penthouse" stuff. Some readers clearly like this and imagine "they are there" and enjoy the titillation. RB does not, for the record, because he finds it often narcissistic (dick size, making girls cum, true confessions about inner psychological tensions, etc), often boring, droning on and on and on like Dostoyevski visits an FKK, not really fitting the spirit of a public forum. But most importantly, IMHO, I think these do cross privacy boundaries. Where the boundary is - I dunno. A judgement call to be sure.

[Member #4347]

i understand that everybody will define his own limits and boundaries when it comes to reports. i know its all highly subjective. i am sure some people will come out now in defense of 'freedom of speech' which i value very highly myself. but i do believe if there are no rules regarding our reports maybe we should start making up a few. speaking about a certain woman and saying she was crying which has nothing to do with her performance in the room or anything of relevance and it is just put on display for our 'entertainment' should not be possible.

i know i am just one of the many members here in this forum and i am not a long term member and i have not contributed as much as others did. i am only entitled to my own opinion. i think ofc we can discuss or disagree on everything but if we for all our differences can not agree on some minimal form of mutual respect towards the women then this would be a very sad thing.

[Optimist]

Diplomat and Altima. I agree totally with Diplomat's general points. However I didn't read Altima's reports about crying etc as entertainment, since his notes were limited to observation only. It is a difficult one, but I thought it served to remind us that the girls are human and have issues in their lives and are not just there to provide a service like automatons. Thanks for your contribution Diplomat: if we respect the girls as you suggest then the boundaries draw themselves.

Rocketboy . Well said. I think the reports are for information not titillation

[Manny51]

Hi AltimaTravels.

I am sorry if what I am going to say will sound as if I want to patronize you. I surely don't want to do that.

But reporting about who was drunk and who cried and naming NAMES so that the whole world knows is something we really should not do. I know the women you mentioned and I do like and respect them a lot. But even if I didn't know them I would never want to put their feelings or their grief on public display. They are professionals but they are still human beings. I am sure you are an educated and respectful man so please grant those women the respect they deserve.

Diplomat.I don't think that his report encroached on any rules of courtesy in regards to privacy. He reported on what anyone who was physically there could have seen. Its like saying I saw Jane throwing up at that party on Saturday night. Gossip, but not anything that crosses a line.

Now if it was something said or done in confidence, or in private, that would have been another matter. If a girl had said she had needed an abortion a month ago, for example, and that was repeated, that would obviously cross a line of privacy and decency.

[AltimaTravels]

Interesting comments all round, thank you.

I stand by my observational approach. As has been noted anybody attending the evening would have seen what I saw. I reported it as such. There are many reports of the sexual performance of the ladies, which to my mind could be seen as being intrusive but are generally not viewed as such. The ladies attend Artemis in a professional capacity thus their behavior in their workplace, I think, is fair comment. In the same way, a footballers behavior on the pitch is fair comment, but to my mind their privates lives should stay private.

The private revelations of ladies are not fair comment and I do not reveal what I have been told in confidence.

I did reflect on what I reported as I wrote and so did not mention other observations which gave me specific concerns. Those concerns are conjecture on my behalf and so are not suitable for public airing as they may be completely inaccurate.

My comments about both ladies were largely prompted by the fact that both normally seem self assured and in-control. That they had in their different ways, relaxed this somewhat, was I think worthy of reporting.

[Simon Rex]

Marisol - very attractive and sexy, but actually very quiet in the room, kind of ethereal and distant, which you could mistake for arrogance (but really, who can be arrogant working at the FickFabrik..). RB kept thinking this is what cloud-based sex must be like. While YMMV, she sure does know how to use those lips.


RB does not, for the record, because he finds it often narcissistic (dick size, making girls cum, true confessions about inner psychological tensions, etc), often boring, droning on and on and on like Dostoyevski visits an FKK, not really fitting the spirit of a public forum.Does she do DFK aswell or just LK and BBBJ?

I totally agree on some reports being quite narcissistic always mentioning that they were "too big" or gave her multiple orgasms and such but I often just translate them to the girl being either good at her job or just polite.

[Rocketboy0]

He reported on what anyone who was physically there could have seen. As one who was there, I can also report that what was "seen" is all just pure speculation. There was a lot of booze flowing and girls were laughing really hard, and tears and running eye makeup could easily have been caused by that. Since none of us were at the table, the scenarios can go on and on and on. Things in Ukraine were not going to plan. Elvis was sighted in the parking lot (again). Currency futures were tanking. Shoes were too tight. An attractive male guest turned out to be a transgender pre op. Who knows.

RB has over the past several centuries seen mongers doing some pretty odd, silly, or completely whacko things. Things they surely would not like repeated on the interweb by strangers who might take things out of context, and once out there, never to be recalled. Shame with digital immortality. So do we post what we see or think we see no matter what....???? RB thinks not.

Diplomat has usefully raised the issue of privacy, and what and how comments might be posted or not. Just something to think about in the future, and thus we may move onward.

* * *

Simon-with me it was lite, lite, floating away (as I said). I can't understand it as I brushed and flossed in June. YMMV. And like always, BBBJ was impossible because of my 30cm diameter. But she orgasmed several times, just looking at it. We were overflowing with our various passionate juices, and when we opened the room door, the fluids and us with it, roared out and flushed us right down the stairs (think The Shining), til we crashed and sprawled out, conveniently near the money lockers.

[Member #4581]

Altima, good report. Ignore the barbs. It is much better to read detailed reports than carping from others who find faults but don't post detailed reports of their own.

And is there anything more pompous and silly than referring to oneself in third person? Well, oneself as in the self bestowed pseudonym in third person?

[Manny51]

Altima, good report.

And is there anything more pompous and silly than referring to oneself in third person? Well, oneself as in the self bestowed pseudonym in third person?LOL! I was wondering whether I was the only one who noticed that.

[Rocketboy0]

And is there anything more pompous and silly than referring to oneself in third person?Apparently there is.

So RB cordially invites you both to not read his posts, and add him to your "ignore list" (a setting inside your profile) so you're never troubled again. Surely all forum readers will find this little pissing contest helpful to them as they try to navigate the mongering world. Or perhaps not.

And on the barbs front, Diplomat, I and others were talking about privacy issues in a pretty respectful way. Obviously that did not sink in. What a surprise.

[Frozty]

Frozty does not normally make use of the third person writing style, preferring the first person omniscient, but does find it amusing when used correctly.

Frozty also finds it unnecessary to criticise others' writing style, but is not above occasional pomposity.

I also find myself regretting some things that I write on this forum. In my early days, I was a bit harsh in my description of a girl. I regret my unnecessary declaration of distaste for one particular girl who kept bothering me at Sharks. Nobody picked me up on it, but rest assured, brutal self-flagellation ensued.

I now try not to comment without reviewing it from the girls' point of view. I can still be critical, but try (and no doubt sometimes fail) to be fair, and not too personal.

[Kimino]

Just to give it a title actually.

Big meetup yesterday with Zimmerbaby (after a long time), Buck Rogers and Charlie123. The food was at it's lowest levels but the project to go out for dinner failed immediately. There's no way we could ever manage to be all out of the rooms, simultaneously, at any given point.

Arrived around noon and left at 5:00 am, economic disaster but lots of fun.

The lineup was quite good even very early in the afternoon, was quite surprised about it, long time I didn't visit on dessous tag and kind of rememberd it was quite a slow day. It was never crowded but great vibe.

Was going to opt for Vegas but for various reasons changed my mind. Being still focused on starting with a pornstar look girl, grabbed Zoe. Easy to spot, long red hair, she just changed color a bit and it's now a bit more purple. Lots of tatoos (pistols around the pussy, "puta" on the back, a brand new one on the back). Walks around a lot or sits and hangs around in German Sofa Group 2.0 area, just after the sliding door, on the left. Last time I've been with her it was about one and half year ago. Zoe is a nice girl, if you like her look, gives solid service, a pro. Still, it's kind of difficult for me to get some real contact with german girls in general, and she is not different. Had a 30 min session + extra. I enjoyed it but probably won't repeat any soon.

Later on, Amalia showed up, wearing these sexy jeans short, leaning on a column showing her fantastic ass. Lasted two minutes watching the show and then took her to zimmer. I find Amalia to be one of the sexiest girls in Artemis, she reminds me a lot of Janita and even if she plays a bit crazy, it's a fun girl to be with. Had an hour with her. She is Romanian, blonde, long hair, big eyes, blue. She always hangs around in the area between the the lap dance pole closest to the bar and the big plastic champagne bottle on the column just beside. Quite easy to spot. Recommended, will repeat.

Next, again Jay Jay (don't know the spelling), it's the same girl form my last report. I can only confirm the good. Iranian / german, lives in Berlin. Petite, long black hair, piercing (a diamond or something) on the left side of her upper lip. 1 HR. Young. Recommended, will repeat.

Out of the blue, bulgarian Elena showed up. She is quite new to Artemis. Very, very young. Pony tail, blond (now a bit darker) hair. No tatoos, no piercing, blue eyes. A great performer, deep throats like she is never going to give it back. Very responsive and extremely sweet. Recommended, will repeat. 1 HR.

The 3:30 girl winner was Viola. Been with her many many times, and every time gets better. Russian, pony tail, black hair. Always wearing a shirt with short sleeves (red / black). Speaks very little english if that's an issue for you. To me she is fantastic and I know Zimmerbaby agrees. LOL.

That's all folks.

Kimino.

[Kimino]

And is there anything more pompous and silly than referring to oneself in third person? Well, oneself as in the self bestowed pseudonym in third person?And is there anything more sad than a complete lack of sense of humour?

Come on guys, lets cut this crap and back to reports.

Kimino.

[Rocketboy0]

Frozty also finds it unnecessary to criticise others' writing style, but is not above occasional pomposity.
age.Frozty- RB is glad you also don't take any of this too seriously. And better to be pompous than pimp us.

[Frozty]

Come on guys, lets cut this crap and back to reports.
Sadly, it's too long since I have had anything to report. But, I travel this coming Monday for a two-day visit. If I can avoid rooming with Fatima and Nina I might actually have something new to say. I can't see it happening.

[Kimino]

Sadly, it's too long since I have had anything to report. But, I travel this coming Monday for a two-day visit. If I can avoid rooming with Fatima and Nina I might actually have something new to say. I can't see it happening.Ciao. Nina was there yesterday but didn't see Fatima, maybe day off.

Kimino.

[Pharisaer]

But, I travel this coming Monday for a two-day visit. If I can avoid rooming with Fatima and Nina I might actually have something new to say. I can't see it happening.Fatima is back for some days actually. Good chance to bump into her next Monday or Tuesday. Good luck!

[Charlie 123]

Hi.

Without wishing to stir up any residual prevailing animosities, I have chosen to have my say on this topic because I think it covers some important ground. The consensus appears to be that there is some sort of arbitrary boundary of discretion that we as reporters should be mindful of in a public forum, and that surely must be correct.

But let's not fool ourselves. The prime function of this board is not an altruistic one. We are here to share info as mongers, with the purpose of getting more fun out of our FKK time and expenditure. 'More bang for our buck', in the most literal sense. Thus any fact-based info that doesn't severely impede upon a girl's private circumstances is admissible IMHO, and especially anything that occurs in the public areas, even if the value or relevance of the information can't be established at the time.

A good example arose this week and it flowed directly from the topic under discussion. I happened to read Altima's report the night before I went to Artemis, and happened also to notice what he had said about Vegas being in tears at the party. I was sitting next to Kimino in the lounge a day or two later. He's a big fan of Vegas; I don't know who she is. He mentioned that he had found her to be a bit off with him earlier that day. He asked her if there was something wrong or if he had upset her in some way, but she had shrugged him off. I mentioned what Altima had observed a couple of nights earlier, and we speculated that maybe there was a connection and she was in a bad phase, and thus perhaps today wasn't the best day to pick her for a session.

Imagine for instance that Altima's intel happened to lead or influence Kimino that day to make the successful choice, for example, of Viola over Vegas. Is that not precisely what we are here to achieve, helping each other with both direct and indirect information to make better choices in the heat of battle?

And whilst I respect and endorse Diplomat's general concern for the sensitivities of the girls, I think that the info Altima provided falls well short of the line as far as breaches of discretion are concerned.

[Charlie 123]

Arrived around 1. 30 and met with Buck rogers, Kimino and Zimmerbaby from this forum. It's always good to have company at Artemis, especially when it comprises such genial and well-informed mongers. It seemed very busy to my eye, lots of girls around despite the early hour. Wednesday is Lingerie Day, a treat for those of us like Kimino and I who prefer to see the girls in an enticing outfit. More continued to flow in (or waddle in, in some cases) throughout the afternoon and early evening and so there was generous selection available all day. I saw a few girls I recognise from the past including Gabizca (HUN), Mary (BUL), Martina (BUL), NINA (CZE) & Sophie (GRE / BUL), but the vast majority of the girls were new to me.

First up, Grace (Cameroon), late 20's, black-skinned, long braided hair, medium build, speaks v good English, engaging personality, promised much in her pitch in the bar and delivered on pretty much all of it. Passionate girl, prolonged DFK, sloppy BJ, a really enjoyable GFE. 1 hour session, will probably repeat. Recommended.

Ella (RUS), well known to almost everybody here I imagine. My third or fourth session with Ella and the first for at least two years. When I took off my robe she said immediately 'Oh, you've got a new tattoo!' just another example of the astonishing memory that some of these girls have; god knows how many punters she's been with in the interim and it's not like I was a regular customer of hers anyway. The session itself was terrific, the best I've had with her. She is the consummate professional, does and says all the right things at the right time. She must have been something special 25 years ago, and she still looks pretty hot today from most angles.

Suzanna (HUN), late 20's, 5'8', slim, small natural titties, angular Slavic features, one script tattoo on the rear of her neck, medium blond hair, pretty girl, typical EE looks. She recognised me from years ago, I have to say that I didn't remember her, but I will next time. Fun, sexy girl with a cheeky disposition, perfect GFE. Stayed 1.5 hours. Wins the Session of The Day Award. Definite repeat for me.

Medezin (ROM), 23,5'4' perhaps, quite long dark hair, looks more Mediterranean than Gipsy and could pass for Spanish / Italian, pretty, medium breasts slightly drooping, good figure. Restricted service, no connection and I was shattered anyway, so a disappointing session which I terminated after 20 minutes. Perhaps somebody could do better with her, she's pretty enough and quite a sweet girl, but no repeat for me.

C123.

[Member #4347]

I have no problem admitting that in a way I stand alone with something that I really found important and I felt I had to point it out the way I did.

Nearly all of you argued in favor of reporting all of which Altima reported. Many of you argued along the line 'privacy is what I am told in private vs. What everyone can see in public can be reported without hesitation'.

It makes sense. In fact many of your points make sense. BTW, I am not altruistic myself and I know the forum is for exchanging information about the subject at hand. I am not Mother Theresa guys.

Many of you went at great length to get into some theoretical argument, nearly academic, as if a woman's tears were a matter of the law.

What most of you failed to do was at least to TRY to understand the perspective of the women involved. We are already exposing a lot about them and also about our encounters with them, myself included. You can be sure most of them don't like it. But then again I know we pay for it and we want to know who is good and who isn't and who we might have a great chemistry with and with whom we wouldn't.

The internet makes it easy for us to reduce all that to a few 'facts' and 'observations' and we don't have to think about how it feels for the women because while THEY can be identified we most of the time CAN NOT. We feel so secure because even though they may read it will be difficult to point the finger at us. It may be unlikely that they will have the opportunity to slap your face or to send their pimp to beat you up. Especially for those who are here once a year maybe there is no reason to think about such things.

About Altima's report it may sound surprising but I liked it a lot and I did not critizise his style of writing. On the contrary I found it quite interesting and I am also sure HE knows both the place and the people involved well. In fact if Altima had written about a drunken pro and one who had a weak moment and maybe there were tears even then I would never have mentioned it. I only felt the need to speak out because HE had to mention their NAMES. And Charlie I am sure someone with Kimino's experience and instincts knows who or what HE will do even if it this little situation had not been reported.

I respect Altima's response and I also see all the valid arguments that others made and I know everybody will either be annoyed by what I say or being ready to move on. I too want to move on.

But for me, if someone cries or is having a weak moment I will try to be a gentleman and I will surely not report it in a forum for anonymous punters among hundreds and thousands of people. No theoretical argument can take that away.

No more for me to say on the subject.
Diplomat

P.S. I don't know why 'he' in my post always appears in captial letters. Its not intended and I tried to correct it.

[Member #4347]

Being still focused on starting with a pornstar look girl, grabbed Zoe. Easy to spot, long red hair, she just changed color a bit and it's now a bit more purple. Lots of tattoos (pistols around the pussy, "puta" on the back, a brand new one on the back). Walks around a lot or sits and hangs around in German Sofa Group 2.0 area, just after the sliding door, on the left. Last time I've been with her it was about one and half year ago. Zoe is a nice girl, if you like her look, gives solid service, a pro. Still, it's kind of difficult for me to get some real contact with german girls in general, and she is not different. Had a 30 min session + extra. I enjoyed it but probably won't repeat any soon.
Hi Kimino, I have always liked Zoe / Szoey and to me her body is among the hottest at Artemis. One of my favorites but still I know what you mean about that it might be hard getting a little closer, even for a German. Her tattoos are not really my taste but ofc they don't have to be and I sometimes overlook these things when I find a woman highly attractive. She is quite athletic and the experience can get better when someone is prepared to book her for 60 minutes. However booking her again it always depends on my mood and who is else is present among the girls.

Cheers.

Diplomat.

[Charlie 123]

No more for me to say on the subject.
Diplomat

P.S. I don't know why 'he' in my post always appears in captial letters. Its not intended and I tried to correct it.Not much more for me to say either, other than I believe that most of us have as much empathy for the girls and their sensitivities as you, it's just a question of where one draws the line in the sand.

I also had a problem today in my earlier reports with the word HE. As a poker player, HE is an anacronym I write a lot in reference to 'Hold them', and I assumed that the auto-correct facility on my laptop had clicked in each time I wrote the word. I had to manually edit it 14 times to get it right. I guess that it must instead be some glitch in the software on this website.

C123.

[Member #4581]

Glad you have the sense of humor to take up cudgels on his behalf. Anyway, in my view, missile baby is happy to dish dirt to others but quick to cry foul when some one calls him on it. A few months ago, I wrote a lengthy report after visiting Artemis, and HE attacked me in a very personal way simply because I said something about the music being played in Artemis. I guess I must have offended his pompous, er pimp us sensibilities.


And is there anything more sad than a complete lack of sense of humour?

Come on guys, lets cut this crap and back to reports.

Kimino.

[Syzygies]

I have no problem admitting that in a way I stand alone with something that I really found important and I felt I had to point it out the way I did.

Nearly all of you argued in favor of reporting all of which Altima reported. Many of you argued along the line 'privacy is what I am told in private vs. What everyone can see in public can be reported without hesitation'.
I am not taking a side fully one way or the other, however I would point out the forum is full of non-diplomats, and little thought about the girl before posting. I will write that a girl was crap in the room, if she clearly did not try, and name her, or that she had bad smoker's breath. Some guys will even write stuff like the girl looked like she was a drug addict, which is grossly unfair to a girl who just looks a little unusual, was tired, or too slim. Then there is stuff about the "bullshit sob stories" told by girls, who never told me anything of the sort.

So worse than the non-diplomatic types, which are fairly normal, are the complete assholes on the forum. Not much can be done about it. I don't think they will get censored. However I can understand you want to put your point of view. I am not sure its so bad to write that girls are partying and like to get drunk, as long as its actually true. That a girl was crying and makeup smudged is not exactly assassinating her character. Many far worse things have been written about girls, that were far more unfair and unjustified.

If a 100 guys at the club saw a girl doing something, and reporting on the forum just makes a slightly larger audience aware, no great crime there, as along as the report is factually accurate and does not proceed to unfair assumptions.

[Kimino]

Glad you have the sense of humor to take up cudgels on his behalf. Anyway, in my view, missile baby is happy to dish dirt to others but quick to cry foul when some one calls him on it. A few months ago, I wrote a lengthy report after visiting Artemis, and HE attacked me in a very personal way simply because I said something about the music being played in Artemis. I guess I must have offended his pompous, er pimp us sensibilities.Ok, so I probably jumped in something that started in the past.

Anyways, don't know what the music argument was about, but IMHO the music right know is shit. At the time they would put some mainstream EDM at least in the night, at decent volumes. Nothing fantastic but at least club music that would keep you awake. In the last months the music has begun to be be really boring and tasteless.

I'm probably alone in this.

Kimino.

[Manny51]

Hi AltimaTravels.

But reporting about who was drunk and who cried and naming NAMES so that the whole world knows is something we really should not do. I know the women you mentioned and I do like and respect them a lot. But even if I didn't know them I would never want to put their feelings or their grief on public display. They are professionals but they are still human beings. I am sure you are an educated and respectful man so please grant those women the respect they deserve.

Diplomat.No one is trying to be a jerk here, and reveal private information or embarass someone. But don't you think its a little ironic that you are defending the proposition of being chivalrous and not repeating that you saw a certain lady crying. But you ARE ok discussing whether she takes cocks up her ass, sucks dicks without a condom, or lets you cum on her face.

Have a little perspective. You, and everyone here is a punter. Unless someone is being a complete jerk, taking the moral high ground is a little hypocritical.

[Kimino]

If I was concerned about my privacy, I would probably not work in an FKK in the first place. LOL.

This said, I'm generally not interested in the sexual details and very rarely give them in my reports. I also won't report things that I talk about with girls in the room if it's even vaguely private, obviously. Whatever happens in the public areas of the club, can't be seen as private in any way so if someone feels like it's somethng that could be of general interest and reports it, there's nothing wrong and might be usefull.

I personally skip through very long and detailed reports, let alone when they are filled up with psicological stuff. YMMV rulez, so I'm really not interested in that kind of stuff. But again, that's personal.

I know some people like to write details and some like to read them, so as long as it's done with good taste it doesn't diturb. If it does, I simply skip it. Not a big deal.

Regarding Altima's report (that I didn't read before and wish I did), I find it absolutely ok and the kind of report I'm interested in and that I would read. Gave the feeling of what was going on, short enough, good taste, a nice report. I don't understand how all this fuss started.

Kimino.

[AltimaTravels]

Many thanks Kimino and indeed everybody else who have posted on the subject. I think that it does this Forum credit that we can exchange views, agree and disagree without it becoming a war of words.

My final word on the weekend. Can any anybody remind of the name of the Thai girl I saw? Prettiest of the current Thai bunch, great figure, quite a wide face with very slanted eyes, she could be Korea, was wearing a little black dress at the party. Cammy? Catty?

[Marine One]

I saw a few girls I recognise from the past including Gabizca (HUN), Mary (BUL), Martina (BUL), NINA (CZE) & Sophie (GRE / BUL), but the vast majority of the girls were new to me.

Ella (RUS), well known to almost everybody here I imagine.

Suzanna (HUN), late 20's, 5'8', slim, small natural titties, angular Slavic featuresInteresting report! Does this mean that most of the girls in Artemis are EE (but not many Romanians)? Years ago around 2008 I went there and was blown away by the number of beautiful blondes, I thought I was in heaven! But later around 2010 there were hardly any EE girls and a lot of darker ones, with some Romanians thrown in. Are things swinging back to the 2008 type crowd?

[Member #4581]

I made a comment about this song with lyrics that go "John Doe. Once you put your drinks on hold. John doe".

It had a moderately catchy tune I admit, but man, they kept playing that song repeatedly. In my 6 hours or so in Artemis on that night, they played it at least 20 times, may be more.


Ok, so I probably jumped in something that started in the past.

Anyways, don't know what the music argument was about, but IMHO the music right know is shit. At the time they would put some mainstream EDM at least in the night, at decent volumes. Nothing fantastic but at least club music that would keep you awake. In the last months the music has begun to be be really boring and tasteless.

I'm probably alone in this.

Kimino.

[SuppenHuhn]

Interesting report! Does this mean that most of the girls in Artemis are EE (but not many Romanians)? Years ago around 2008 I went there and was blown away by the number of beautiful blondes, I thought I was in heaven! But later around 2010 there were hardly any EE girls and a lot of darker ones, with some Romanians thrown in. Are things swinging back to the 2008 type crowd?I think at this moment there are about 30 % German girls, 20 % from Romania, 5-10 % from Bulgaria, 5-10 % from Hungary and the rest from for example Turkey, Slovakia, Tchechia, Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Brasil, Asia (Thai), Africa, Spain, Moldavia, Greece and so on.

Most of German girls are blonde and that's nice.

[Member #4347]

I think at this moment there are about 30 % German girls, 20 % from Romania, 5-10 % from Bulgaria, 5-10 % from Hungary and the rest from for example Turkey, Slovakia, Tchechia, Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Brasil, Asia (Thai), Africa, Spain, Moldavia, Greece and so on.

Most of German girls are blonde and that's nice.I agree to Suppenhuhn's figures in general, give or take a few percent. I would say the percentage of Germans has steadily increased until now and Romanians and Moldovans together surely are the second largest group. If you put everyone from Eastern or Southeastern Europe together then they will surely be a majority. I think its interesting as a general observation but don't forget some women will not be honest about their country of origin and ofc there are always reasons.

Among the women I like the most are a lot of Germans (despite the fact I had great experiences other nationalities too) but many of them. Maybe most. Have non German roots. Thats why I tend to include both countries when I describe them. Among the most gorgeous for my taste is Turkish German Aylin (Ayleen), Czech German Leura, maybe Middle Eastern or North African German (I am not sure in this case) Lia, just for example. Nationalities and ethnicities are of little relevance for me personally but as I pointed out earlier sometimes it makes things easier if you have a common language, heritage etc. Vegas, her Ukrainian German friend Chayenne and Russian German Mira who sadly was at Artemis only for a few weeks during summer I count as Germans mostly because they speak German as if it was their mother tongue. But as I said, in the end it is not relevant for me.

[Kimino]

Most of German girls are blonde and that's nice.Yep, at least they are easy to spot. LOL.

Kimino.

[Manny51]

I think at this moment there are about 30 % German girls, 20 % from Romania, 5-10 % from Bulgaria, 5-10 % from Hungary and the rest from for example Turkey, Slovakia, Tchechia, Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Brasil, Asia (Thai), Africa, Spain, Moldavia, Greece and so on.

Most of German girls are blonde and that's nice.Ahh! But don't you need to differentiate the true blonds from the Romanians who have dyed their hair? Heh!

On my recent visit to Artemis, there was one blonde who I thought was uniquely pretty. She had hair cut very short around the sides, but long in the front. She is thin, with a few tatoos, and had dark eyeliner around her eyes. She smoked constantly. Her overall look was very much "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. " I wish I asked her where she was from.

[Kimino]

Ahh! But don't you need to differentiate the true blonds from the Romanians who have dyed their hair? Heh!There's also natural blondes romanians and many germans are not blonde. Then there's polish blonds, russians. Mission impossible.

Kimino.

[Member #4347]

Ahh! But don't you need to differentiate the true blonds from the Romanians who have dyed their hair? Heh!

On my recent visit to Artemis, there was one blonde who I thought was uniquely pretty. She had hair cut very short around the sides, but long in the front. She is thin, with a few tatoos, and had dark eyeliner around her eyes. She smoked constantly. Her overall look was very much "Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. " I wish I asked her where she was from.What was her name? If she is in her early twenties, around 5'7' tall, beautiful natural boobs and has a big tattoo showing a girl (a dragon tattoo I don't remember but that doesn't mean its not her) on one arm it maybe was Misha from Romania. She had taken a longer break and came back a few weeks ago. Mostly present during the night shift and hanging around with her friend Clara, also Romanian and very sweet, silicone boobs. I have zimmered her 2 or 3 times in the past and had a great GFE always. Spoke English with her because her she seemed to know only little German back then. She seems full of energy most of the time but rarely approaches the men which means you will most likely have to approach her.

[Manny51]

What was her name? If she is in her early twenties, around 5'7' tall, beautiful natural boobs and has a big tattoo showing a girl (a dragon tattoo I don't remember but that doesn't mean its not her) on one arm it maybe was Misha from Romania. She had taken a longer break and came back a few weeks ago. Mostly present during the night shift and hanging around with her friend Clara, also Romanian and very sweet, silicone boobs. I have zimmered her 2 or 3 times in the past and had a great GFE always. Spoke English with her because her she seemed to know only little German back then. She seems full of energy most of the time but rarely approaches the men which means you will most likely have to approach her.That sounds about right. At least to me, she looked very different from the other girls. Its takes a woman with guts to buzz cut the sides of her head. Especially if they are pretty.

Funny. If I head to guess, I would have said that she was German. Its the blonde hair, man. If they dye it, you can't tell if they are Romanian.

[Marine One]

I agree to Suppenhuhn's figures in general, give or take a few percent. I would say the percentage of Germans has steadily increased until now

Among the women I like the most are a lot of GermansThanks for answering my question, Diplomat and Suppenhuhn! It may seem silly, but this is important to me and I am in the process of planning a trip right now.

I am totally astonished and intrigued to hear about the increasing number of Germans! What do you think accounts for this, a worsening German labour market?

In my 13 visits to FKKs, I can only remember meeting 2 Germans! (2008 to 2012).

[Member #4347]

Thanks for answering my question, Diplomat and Suppenhuhn! It may seem silly, but this is important to me and I am in the process of planning a trip right now.

I am totally astonished and intrigued to hear about the increasing number of Germans! What do you think accounts for this, a worsening German labour market?

In my 13 visits to FKKs, I can only remember meeting 2 Germans! (2008 to 2012).We are only speaking about Artemis, I didn't say that its a general tendency in FKK Clubs. So please don't jump to conclusions about the whole scene. During my recent visits to a smaller FKK (Saunaclub Harem in Bad Lippspringe) nearly all of the women seemed to be Romanians or from other South European countries and it was really difficult to find a German among the roughly 25 women present both nights. As I said earlier it also depends on your definition. A woman with Turkish roots speaking German like a native and living in Germany for a long time I would describe as Turkish German or German and others may describe her as Turkish. Romanians sometimes say they are Italian, some Bulgarians say they are Greek (Greeks are very rare in the business) and sometimes Arab women say they are Turkish or Italian too. Some lie to protect themselves or their cover story (some Arabs and Iranians), others want to appear more exotic (being Romanian, Bulgarian or Turkish for example is not exotic in Germany because there are so many but being Greek, Italian or Arab might be exotic) and others don't want to be bothered by some of their countrymen.

So if you want to meet German women you will find a lot of them at Artemis. Other than that, I wouldn't get too much into all that and personally I would focus on your personal impression and sympathy before booking the woman rather than her nationality.

I didn't want to get too much into other topics in this thread but I hope this was a little helpful.

Diplomat.

[Mr Ho]

we are only speaking about artemis, i didn't say that its a general tendency in fkk clubs. so please don't jump to conclusions about the whole scene. during my recent visits to a smaller fkk (saunaclub harem in bad lippspringe) nearly all of the women seemed to be romanians or from other south european countries and it was really difficult to find a german among the roughly 25 women present both nights. as i said earlier it also depends on your definition. a woman with turkish roots speaking german like a native and living in germany for a long time i would describe as turkish german or german and others may describe her as turkish. romanians sometimes say they are italian, some bulgarians say they are greek (greeks are very rare in the business) and sometimes arab women say they are turkish or italian too. some lie to protect themselves or their cover story (some arabs and iranians), others want to appear more exotic (being romanian, bulgarian or turkish for example is not exotic in germany because there are so many but being greek, italian or arab might be exotic) and others don't want to be bothered by some of their countrymen.

so if you want to meet german women you will find a lot of them at artemis. other than that, i wouldn't get too much into all that and personally i would focus on your personal impression and sympathy before booking the woman rather than her nationality.

i didn't want to get too much into other topics in this thread but i hope this was a little helpful.

diplomat.i would say half of german girls in artemis are always stationed in same spot:

when you walk into the main bar. the area of the bar facing directly to you when you just walk in are the area where german girls station themselves, usually few blondes, some dark brunette. some of them have famous abdel tattoo on them. i guess they are so called german sofa group on this forum.

other half of german girls are kinda rep001tered around, i feel they do not want to sit with german sofa group for some reason that i do not know for sure, but i guess mainly because gsg are not the best service provider and often do up selling, so i guess this other half of german girls do not want to convey such a image to the clients? or kinda feel not secure enough to hang out with abdel tattoo girls?

however, some of gsg girls are quite good looking and worth going ounce or twice to taste if you are in artemis for consecutive days, but i would not expect them to be best performer in the club. the good side is that they can take heavy pounding comparison to other girls in artemis. expect some up selling, but if you refuse they are not that pushy about it, this is just my experience.

[Member #4347]

i would say half of german girls in artemis are always stationed in same spot:

when you walk into the main bar. the area of the bar facing directly to you when you just walk in are the area where german girls station themselves, usually few blondes, some dark brunette. some of them have famous abdel tattoo on them. i guess they are so called german sofa group on this forum.

other half of german girls are kinda rep001tered around, i feel they do not want to sit with german sofa group for some reason that i do not know for sure, but i guess mainly because gsg are not the best service provider and often do up selling, so i guess this other half of german girls do not want to convey such a image to the clients? or kinda feel not secure enough to hang out with abdel tattoo girls?

however, some of gsg girls are quite good looking and worth going ounce or twice to taste if you are in artemis for consecutive days, but i would not expect them to be best performer in the club. the good side is that they can take heavy pounding comparison to other girls in artemis. expect some up selling, but if you refuse they are not that pushy about it, this is just my experience.annika has left artemis a long time ago, nika and lulu will most likely not come back neither so there are no 'abdul' tattoo girls at artemis right now. if anyone knows another one with this tattoo in the club right now then please correct me.

of course what you say about good performers don't like being associated with bad performers sounds logical and i am sure it is correct sometimes. but on the other hand its difficult to make a generalisation about that because i know many girls where this is not the case and many have only one or two 'real friends' at artemis and those are the few they feel they can trust and won't have any issues with over customers, money or whatever.

in my view, the smarter and the more professional the woman is, the more she knows she can be more successful not hanging out with her group so much and not relying on anyone else but herself.

but i believe you are correct that mostly the girls seem to have favorite places and sometimes it reminds me a little bit of strassenstrich areas like oranienburger strasse where i witnessed a few years ago what can happen if a girl tries to occupy a part of the street that was claimed by someone else.

german sofa group gsg in this forum seems to be a vague description of a big group of women hanging around the famous sofa and also to the short side of the bar opposite to it. it was home of the famous german austrian abdul team but also for most of the hamburg girls and a few other germans. stella, yara, giuliana, nadja, jana, michelle, blair, megan, alektra, aylin, lia, donna, hadisse, just to name a few. if you pass that area and move along the window side of the bar you will find other germans, mostly from berlin but also other cities like kitty, jamie, leura, alexis, toni, valeska, xenia, madlen, manja, etc. if you are there on a regular basis or if you have a great memory you can surely close your eyes and do that kind of 'virtual memory tour' around the place and you might see that maybe a majority of the women have favorite places and many are hanging around in groups.

i would also say that most of the time the girls are hanging around with others from the same country. of course some also know each other from other clubs they worked before.

cheers.

diplomat.

[FMoreau]

Closed the dances with Sissy, yes again. She is also leaving in a weeks time, coming back after 3 weeks If I understood correctly...Anyone knows if she's back?

I'm planning a quick visit to Berlin next week.

Thanks

[Frozty]

Today was the first day of a two day visit to Artemis. When I arrived I discovered that it is to become a one day visit, as I must travel to Warsaw tomorrow. Armed only with Jeans and t's, I must also find some time to go shopping in the morning.

I arrived at midday, and the place was very quiet. Management has finally started to invest in some new robes, although I was presented with an old one. The second piece of news is that I seem to have dropped a shoe size, which I found very disconcerting.

Anyhow, it turned out to be a decent day of sport, although all with familiar faces. I was approached by Zoey early on, but too soon for me to partake. I regret that a little, as I had resolved to man-up and try one of the pro's. I didn't see her again all day.

I sessioned with Nina (2 hrs), Gabrielle (Poland, 30 minutes), Fatima (1 HR). I had not seen Nina for four or five months, and it took us a little while to warm up. However, I love to spend time with her, and was delighted to see her. She informed me that the girls no longer get paid for Champagne sales. Not my scene, but she did tell me that a friend of hers had never sold any champagne in nine years, until she worked through three bottles of Dom Pom on the first day that this new rule began. Seemed a bit harsh.

Gabrielle is sweet, but somehow we don't quite hit it off, hence the quick session. The session with Fatima was fabulous; a very nice end to the day. She was also very helpful with my shopping needs!

Food was awful. Something pretending to be chicken. Or maybe it was pork? Who knows.

I'm sad to be missing tomorrow, but must try harder next visit to pick some new faces. I was struck again at how friendly all the girls were after a rejection. Very different from my experiences in Frankfurt.

[Kimino]

Anyone knows if she's back?

I'm planning a quick visit to Berlin next week.

ThanksShe should be back soon, at least that's what she said. I'm also up next week.

Kimino.

[StarletVoyager]

Does anyone know if the following girls are still found in artemis. Charlie, megan, de. Hannah pol. Stunning twins? Will be back in December 15/12-22/12/ salut.

[Pistons]

Annika has left Artemis a long time ago, Nika and Lulu will most likely not come back neither so there are no 'Abdul' tattoo girls at Artemis right now. If anyone knows another one with this tattoo in the club right now then please correct me.True, I talked with them last week at Palace where they work now.

PS: I am also considering going to Artemis next week, but it will probably be early and/or mid week.

[Nr 71]

Going to Artemis tomorrow Wednesday, really looking forward to it!

Hoping to meet Nina and Fatima, as they have gotten very nice reviews on here.

Anyone care to give me a hint on how to find them, as I only have pics from Artemis' website to help me?

Would be fun to meet up with some of the forumers, if anyone is interested.

Planning on arriving at about 2 pm, staying as late as I want to.

[Masayama]

Hoping to meet Nina and Fatima, ...
Anyone care to give me a hint on how to find them, ...Fatima: Slim, fit, A cups, dark hair. One of the very few girls there with some pubic hair (landing strip). Usually starts early in the day, not likely to be seen late at night. Can sometimes be seen downstairs, in the "relax" area.

BTW, has Marketa (CZ) been spotted recently?

[Frozty]

Going to Artemis tomorrow Wednesday, really looking forward to it!

Hoping to meet Nina and Fatima, as they have gotten very nice reviews on here.

Anyone care to give me a hint on how to find them, as I only have pics from Artemis' website to help me?

Would be fun to meet up with some of the forumers, if anyone is interested.

Planning on arriving at about 2 pm, staying as late as I want to.Nina is the one without any teeth. She left them in my shoulder yesterday.

[Oskar517]

Going to Artemis tomorrow Wednesday, really looking forward to it!

Hoping to meet Nina and Fatima, as they have gotten very nice reviews on here.

Anyone care to give me a hint on how to find them, as I only have pics from Artemis' website to help me?

Would be fun to meet up with some of the forumers, if anyone is interested.

Planning on arriving at about 2 pm, staying as late as I want to.Nina always smiling.

She has a white band on the right leg.

Good luck.

[Galazy2]

Nina has long, wavey hair and a rose and thorns tattoo on her lower back.

[Ray Reddington]

Nina is the one without any teeth. She left them in my shoulder yesterday.Did I Start Something? Maybe, my fascination for vampires is beginning to rub off on fellow huntsmen?

Ray