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Travelerb69

03-12-10, 15:50

I visited GT last summer, I come from Asia & had no problem getting in GT so don't worry too much about the racist thing in GT thread. I like GT but it's way too crowed so I am thinking to try LR this month.

Can anyone confirm nowadays there is still a policy that if I pay 1 entry fee I can visit the other free? Because I remember it was the case (both LR & GT same company. Etc)

Also I will arrive about 3-4pm, which club should I go first?

The promotion combo GT/LR is still valid. Regardless of which club you go first, when leaving, tell the staff you are going to the other and they will give you a voucher that enables you to pay 25 only for entrance, but it is valid only for that day in particular.

As for the schedule, since GT closes at 1:00 am and LR at 3:00am, better go to GT first and then LR. GT is also known for getting too man-crowded after 6pm; on the other hand LR is pretty dead during the afternoon.

Also possible to have pizza at GT at 10:00pm and again at LR at 11pm, if you are that hungry.

Mingman

03-13-10, 05:13

Travelerb69, thanks for info

I will report the visits later on, actually I am using Iphone & if they have wifi in the club I may report it live!

Travelerb69

03-13-10, 06:56

Travelerb69, thanks for info

I will report the visits later on, actually I am using Iphone & if they have wifi in the club I may report it live!

They do have wifi at GT, we will wait for your live report-LOL

Woof Woof

03-14-10, 19:04

Travelerb69, thanks for info

I will report the visits later on, actually I am using Iphone & if they have wifi in the club I may report it live!

I get better wifi connectivity at LR than GT. At LR as long as you stay upstairs or go outside to the big tent, wifi access is excellent.

Woof Woof

03-14-10, 19:34

...The girls where of mixede nationalities and that was nice, but the quality was not as high as at Samya. I had a couple of cokes, talked to a few girls. One was Erika and I was very tempted to go with her to a rom, but it did not really click for me.

After the pizza-riot a girl took my arm and asked me what I was doing. I turned around and looked into a sweet smiling round face with frecles. Her name was Adina, 22 year old from Roumania, and we went to the cinema. During the smalltalk I learned that she did almost everything in the room exept anal and AO. I sent her to get a key. We got at warm, basic room in the basement. But she made up for everthing that the room lacked. Very GFE. A lot of talking and smiling. Great blowjob and a nice first fuck on this trip. Afterwards I have done my homework on the internet and realised that I struck gold with finding Adina. She has got a lot of great reviews and I think that I was not able to fully take advantage of all of her skills. A good reason for coming back to Living Room.

After a few more cokes, some sauna and wirlpool, and a shark attack at the bar by Anna and her friend I decided to leave the Livingroom and go to my bedroom. To be continued in the Samya section.

Hello Tjohoo,

It's not clear to me which day of the week you visited LR but I've been to LR fairly frequently lately and I'd give LR the edge over Samya. I've been impressed with the turnover in the lineup at LR. Some of the new talent like Dior (.hu, blonde, tattoos galore, fake tits, pse service) are just visiting for 1-2 weeks at a time so it could be hit or miss depending on when you visit. Even among the Romanian contingent, there have been some new standouts like Flory (21yo, thin, 1.60m, fake blond). Adina was a good choice. And then, there's Anastasia (.ro, beautiful long black hair, formerly of GT), she of the perfect butt but so so service. I don't think she'll be there for too long. It was a good idea for you to avoid Anna and her friend Melanie. There's also some German talent I can recommend. At the top of my list and one of my favorites is Stella whom i still call Kim from her GT days. She's the complete package: service, looks, personality. I've also had good experience with other German girls such as Suzy, Carmen and Eve. I would like to see more Polish girls at LR though.

Tjohoo

03-16-10, 16:50

Hello, Tjohoo,

It's not clear to me which day of the week you visited LR but I've been to LR fairly frequently lately and I'd give LR the edge over Samya. I've been impressed with the turnover in the lineup at LR.I was there Friday the 5th of March. I was not dissapointed at all. Great line-up. What made me think that Samyas line-up is better is because that at Samya almost all women are great lookers, and even thou there where a lot of great looking women at LR, there where also a whole bunch that where pretty plain. But I also realise that since I am a novis in LR I am probably paying to much attention to the looks, and therefore missing great talents. Thanks for the great info. I am trying to return to LR I three or four weeks.

Tjohoo

Wanking

03-18-10, 22:34

From here :

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=999786&postcount=406

Are you serious, I went there four times a couple of years ago and each time was a letdown plus the girls do not leave you alone. I hate that.

When I visited Living Room back in Jan 2007, the girls were fairly pushy as I remember, but yesterday they were not as pushy and the line up was visually very impressive, as were the services from the 3 girls I fucked. Full report soon.

Australiasucks

03-19-10, 04:08

My main complaint about LR, is that the girls are rarely nude. Cocoon was my favorite club but is gone. I was only there last time because I got a tip that Margarita formerly of DV was over there.

I got into a shoving match with some pimp at LR too.

Did you try the Algarve Bad Sauna nearby? I thought it was kind of empty.

OzPunter

03-22-10, 17:39

Big30

03-22-10, 21:52

Hi guys,

Planning a first time visit to LR on Weds night since it seems to be the club that closes latest in NRW (except for Dolce Vita which I won't go back to), and I won't get in until around 10pm, so 1am doesn't quite cut it.

Can anyone confirm the pricing for:

- 1 hr? Is it 50+25, or 100

- CIM? 25 or 50

- Anal? 50 or 100

Thanks

1 hr 75, cim 25, anal 50 euro but check first with the girl! It is NRW not Hessen :)!

I was in LR Saturday March 20. Had a great time. Excellent line-up. Food was great. Good interaction between girls and Ice-bears. Good to see my favorite Girl Fatima was back.
Met with other ISG member Chukar who also had a great time in LR.
Indeed LR closes at 03 hr. Note that VV now has open end. Last Friday and Saturday VV closed at 2.30hr.

Regards,
B30

Ladies Man69

03-23-10, 17:45

Hi guys,

I am new here, however I admire your work and I decided 2 join in.

I've been to several Fkk's in NRW "LR 4 times at least, PHG, Cocoon and Yin Yang". Only met one excellent performer can't recall her name the rest was nothing 2 remember.

I am planning a trip on the 6th of April 2 Frankfurt "1night" and Dusseldorf "2 nights".

My question is which girls do you guys suggest to look for, also what part of the day taking into consideration I am not a morning person.

Hope you would assist me being a newbie and everything.

BTW, I am from egypt but lived most of my life in the States.

Big 30 thumbs up as your always accurate and to the point.

Regards,

Ladies man

Vito Corleone

03-23-10, 22:02

BTW, I am from egypt but lived most of my life in the States.

GT would not be a good idea. Pretty good chance you will be denied entry.

Frankfurt - Palace, Oase or World.

Duss - Samya, LR, PHG, VV & Bernds. For more info on Bernds, ask BasketCase.

LR was off the hook back in Feb.

Breadman

03-23-10, 23:16

GT would not be a good idea. Pretty good chance you will be denied entry.

Especially if you arrive with a group like the one you described.

Australiasucks

03-24-10, 02:17

Big30

03-24-10, 02:28

I honestly prefer the real FKK clubs to anything else. From what I saw in LR, most of the women have an Arabic type appearance, seen Arabs at that club, even got into a shoving match with one because he thought I was looking at his girl.

Please tell us when you made the observation and stop posting your race dominated remarks full with prejudices!!

Most women in Lr do not have an Arabic type appearance and Arabs at the club are an exception, but Lr does not discriminate so it is possible you will find them in LR. So what?

B30

Australiasucks

03-24-10, 03:48

Ladies Man69

03-24-10, 11:47

There were plenty of Middle Eastern type women at LR, Vito Corleone basically tried to discourage a poster from going to GT, I was just reacting to it. I am not racial at all. Some pimp gangster did try to shove me there and I shoved the prick back. When I was there many of the girls there were dark haired and dark eyed, nothing wrong with that.

I already know LR does not discriminate.Guys,

i find it very sad that we still talk abt these issues in 2010, in my point of view we should skip colors, race and talk abt much more important issues like my upcoming trip for example:).

Looking forward 2 receiving some usefull info instead of ur comparative study of which clubs racist or not.

N.B: a friend of mine went 2 Oase last nite, asked abt the croatian gurl i heard so much abt "Yvonna or Ivanna" but couldnt find her, he went with another one and guess what:

The session took 7 seconds tops:) was soooo damn embarassing. i asked him did u tell her that ur egyptian he answered yes, so i told him now u disgraced a whole country. LoL

Australiasucks

03-24-10, 23:46

Big30 took my comment as some kind of insult, he has the reading comprehension of a 6 year old. I am not angered. LOL.

It is true that many German clubs do discriminate against certain groups, I saw the same in the Netherlands with window girls. I see it in Australia too. An Arab fellow beat an Australian prostitute so badly that she nearly died. That is sad. In fact when a serious crime happens in Australia, the media always has the the line "suspects of Middle Eastern appearance" were involved. That does not make suspect all Arab people.

LR for a fact will take anyone who pays, they do not care.

Vito Corleone

03-25-10, 00:28

Basketcase

03-25-10, 02:14

a friend of mine went 2 Oase last nite, asked abt the croatian gurl heard so much abt "Yvonna or Ivanna" but couldnt find her, he went with another one and guess what:

The session took 7 seconds tops:) was soooo damn embarassing. i asked him did u tell her that ur egyptian he answered yes, so i told him now u disgraced a whole country. LoL
What was the name of the girl that you friend fucked at Oase and who finished your friend in 7 seconds tops?

I think you need to recommend this girl to some of us that take more than the initial 30 minutes to come. She would save a lot of money. 300€ to come once in a session is a lot more than paying 50€ to come in a session.

I did not see Ivana or Yvonna during my visits last week.

Iseeu

03-25-10, 08:55

I am not racial at all.
Yeah, right. Choked on my coffee when I read this.

@AustraliaSucks AKA CBGB: In almost every single post you raise the race card, or the nationality angle at some point. I'm sure that if someone did statistical analysis on the prevalence of race, nationality, color and prejudices in your posts, it would show as way higher than any other poster. And since these comments are usually unsolicited and come straight from your fertile rancid mind, racial differences must be a big part of your thought process.

Unfortunately, most people who read this forum don't know you, and keep innocently responding expecting to receive sane and lucid feedback in return.

@My fellow ISGers: The only way to get him to stop posting his nonsense is to ignore him. Eventually, he'll crawl back under his rock.
Don't feed the troll.

Big30

03-25-10, 09:39

Don't feed the troll.

You fed the troll! But now very seriously! Australiasucks needs a ban. If this arsloch does not get a ban, Jackson can delete my account.
This forum is non existing to me as long as man as AS can post here.

Regards,
B30

Angus Magee

03-25-10, 09:52

You fed the troll! But now very seriously! Australiasucks needs a ban. If this arsloch does not get a ban, Jackson can delete my account.
This forum is non existing to me as long as man as AS can post here.

Regards,
B30

Why not simply use the ignore feature? Responses to the troll are getting less & less, at least over here in the FKK section. And I guess if you have to go, you have to go. But your posts of use to other members here and IMO valuable members leaving because of trolls is a shame.

The ignore feature is very effective.

OzPunter

03-25-10, 11:40

Went to Living Room last night for the first time.

Maybe it was my mood, but didn't have a good time.

Was quite tired after work commitments, also had a late night in Amsterdam the night before with 2 sessions there that may have tired me out. Listen to me complaining.

I find the setup to be too small and cramped and the line-up was quite disappointing.

Receptionist was very friendly and very helpful, checking several times if things were OK.

Started with Erika, small petite (fake) blond. Only sessioned with her because I thought best to get started with someone otherwise will waste the night.

Pizza turned up just as we were going to a room. Damn. Lucky was some left after wards.

Session was OK, there wasn't really any chemistry so went through the motions. BBBJ, small amount of DFK, some DATY and cowgirl to finish.

Hung around for a bit then decided to have one more before going, bumped into? (don't think I even asked her name)

She's a Romanian (aren't they all.) with long black hair she keeps in a long pony-tail.

Had a bit of a chat in the hallway then off to a room.

Very nice BBBJ for about 10 mins, then moved her into position for a bit of DATY. She has the weirdest pussy I've ever seen, its so low you can hardly get to it

Then moved back into position for some more BBBJ to CIM finish.

Always funny when they make a point of there being to much cum, as if we can control it.

Had a room with a mirror on the ceiling so had some great views during this.

Not a bad session, probably wouldn't repeat.

All in all, a bit disappointing, but as I said, probably wasn't in the right frame of mind and with a cramped setup and low quality line-up things were never going to be great.

Planning a trip today to either GT, VV or Samya. Haven't been to Samya so might go with that, although I think I need a guaranteed hot line-up so think GT will be the best bet.

Report to follow tomorrow.

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Chukar

03-25-10, 12:49

In my trips to Germany I have visited the LR more than any other club. There are many reasons. To my taste it has the best enviroment to party and relax. There are always plenty of FRIENDLY girls to choose from and it is easier to mingle and meet them compared to other clubs like GT, PHG, etc. I especially like the basement if you need a break to relax.

The most impressive feature of LR is the unbelievable level of service. The beautiful blonde mgr always remembers me and gives the kiss, kiss greeting. During the evening she always stops me and asks if I am having a good time. The ladies at the reception desk are all so pretty, warm, and charming.

The ladies at the bar also for the most part also are friendly and want to serve you quickly. They are constantly cleaning.

Food? A lunch buffet spread. About 1500 cakes. 1800 dinner. Next soup. Then at 2200 of course the pizza. Plus of course all the free beer and soft drinks you may want. All this for only 50e. I am glad there is not a LR near where I live because I would definetly become addicted.

I normally don't take the girls discussed on ISG or icebear forums, but when I got to LR the first time I was of course jet lagged and horny as hell. But I took a nice sauna and relaxed before I went upstairs. Strolled over to the kino and a lady put her arm around me. Talked a little told me her name and then I started walking away when it dawned on me this was The Adina, Rom, long dark hair, med height, B, slim. Pretty face, not beautiful. She has only been in LR 2 months and already the Legend is growing. Well I decided in an instant, get a key. PERFECT SERVICE for my taste. She was the first girl I saw and during my last visit to LR the last girl I saw in Germany. I joked to her the last nite I would not cum so easily as the first time and she only smiled. If you are searching for the perfect FT you might want to see Adina.

Lineups change all the time but my God LR had so many Beautiful girls this time. I visited LR 4 times and every time I saw new beautiful girls. For some reason I also picked a couple of extremely young girls. I am an old fart and 20s is young to me but ended up going with 1 girl who is 19, Trixie. I was hesitate but she was GFE and talented. Ger, A, dirty blonde, tall, slim, very naturla look.

Also by accident I also saw a lot of German girls.

Other girls I visited with,

Stella, 20, tall Blnd, A, Gem very sweet.

Susie, Ger, B, Tall, B/C, 30, wonderful GFE

Peggy, German {see what I mean about German girls] 22, C, black, and this girl is BEAUTIFUL, plus very good service.

I was very lucky this trip with my selections. Plus many of the girls were oh so good looking.

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Ladies Man69

03-25-10, 12:54

You fed the troll! But now very seriously! Australiasucks needs a ban. If this arsloch does not get a ban, Jackson can delete my account.
This forum is non existing to me as long as man as AS can post here.

Regards,

B30Big 30,

dont bale on me maaan, need ur assist, 4get abt racism and stuff like that its really nonsense.

is there any lebanese gurls that u guys can spot and recommend in either frankfurt or Dusseldorf fkk's?

looking forward to hearing from u

Ladies Man69

03-25-10, 13:00

What was the name of the girl that you friend fucked at Oase and who finished your friend in 7 seconds tops?

I think you need to recommend this girl to some of us that take more than the initial 30 minutes to come. She would save a lot of money. 300€ to come once in a session is a lot more than paying 50€ to come in a session.

I did not see Ivana or Yvonna during my visits last week.Basketcase,

1st of all she was Romanian so that won't help I guess as 90% of gals are.

2nd I don't think her talents made him cum that fast, I think him being so friggin horny although he is 42 yrs of age.

Last but not least let me give you a tip about this guy, he was coming back from Japan last month and he slept during the flight woke up and guess what! He found himself full of. Imagine 42 yrs and still get that.

Regards,

LM69

Australiasucks

03-25-10, 15:49

I think I saw you during my visit in Feb. I finally realized you were the pizza delivery boy!

I do not go to Germany that often, its 40 hour flight from me. I was there last in 2008, and then before in 2006 for FIFA, and also before that.

If I pissed off of some of you blokes....I will say I am sorry and thats it...words are not bullets. I did for a fact get into a shoving match near the staircase at LR with some Morroccan/Turkish pimp and he did get a scare from me because I knocked him on his ass.

They usually have a bouncer there during the day time, but its in the evening when the idiots come out. LR has some nice girls, but pushy and lack of nudity. Want to see everything before buying if you catch my meaning. It truly wets the appetite to see the steak before you eat it. LOL.

Big30 I just showed your blast off towards me to my Lebanese mate and he is laughing his ass off. Relax.

I really love the all nude stuff in German FKKs, it is meat on display for the lions like me to feast on. And 99 percent of the all the women I have had sex with in German clubs have been good, tasty pussies, tasty tits, I love their larger sweatier breasts. Asians do not have that taste on them, they both do work very hard(no pun intended) for the money.

LR's ups are top notch facilities, I love those lockers, saw a few girls showering in the men's area, one noticed my gigantic hard on and followed me around and would not stop bothering me because I found another girl I found even more attractive. In the main area, they wear skimpy clothes.

I only went here a few years back because I heard the lovely Margarita, the Greek Italian Goddess from Dolce Vita was working here, she had the best tasting pussy my mouth has ever had the pleasure of tasting, it was a very tasty Cinnamon like flavor. Usually most Caucasian women smell of cheese down there, usually Brie of Camembert, except for most American women whose pits smell like the KY they doused on themselves. 65 days and counting down for 30 days of fucking and sucking.

Big30

03-25-10, 23:24

Why not simply use the ignore feature? Responses to the troll are getting less & less, at least over here in the FKK section.

The ignore feature is very effective.

That is indeed a bettter option!

is there any lebanese gurls that u guys can spot and recommend in either frankfurt or Dusseldorf fkk's?

Nancy works in LR and is half German/Libanese. Slim A-B cup, about 1m65cm, black hair. Note there is (was?) also German Nancy working in LR.

Regards,
B30

Australiasucks

03-26-10, 01:06

That is indeed a bettter option!

Nancy works in LR and is half German/Libanese. Slim A-B cup, about 1m65cm, black hair. Note there is (was?) also German Nancy working in LR.

Regards,
B30

Nancy is a Lebanese? I will fuck her. Yummy. I love Lebanese pizza. LOL.

Ladies Man69

03-28-10, 12:34

That is indeed a bettter option!

Nancy works in LR and is half German/Libanese. Slim A-B cup, about 1m65cm, black hair. Note there is (was?) also German Nancy working in LR.

Regards,
B30Hi Big 30,

Thanks for ur info man, however u never mentioned does she offer gr8/good/average or poor service?

Regards.

LM69

Boofer

03-29-10, 15:05

will the clubs have a good line up in easter weekend?

Big30

03-29-10, 18:32

Hi Big 30,

Thanks for ur info man, however u never mentioned does she offer gr8/good/average or poor service?

Regards.

LM69

She offers good service! Nancy worked before also in VV and PHG.

Regards,
B30

Mingman

04-03-10, 03:45

Thanks to Travelerb69, I was in LR on March 17 using the Eur 25 coupon.

Lineup was good, My first girl was Mia from Romania, sex was great with nice services, 1 hour Eur 75.

2nd girl, sorry I forgot name but she's also from Romania, very good experience as well & nice half hour session.

LR on that nite opened room 16 so customers can watch champions League football in that room.

Dedalus

04-03-10, 20:44

The GT line up never really improved so FKK LOVER and myself took the GT-LR Express and the place is hoppin'.

I hardly recognize many of these girls but I have not seen such talent here in a while. Lover is chatting up a cute blonde named Vicky and I've made goo goo eyes at about 6 different possibilities in just 10 minutes. No sign of Indira, but we just got here.
More later,

Dedalus, live from LR

P.S. Mikey, no sign of Paula at Gt

Dedalus

04-03-10, 21:55

Mike De H

04-03-10, 23:03

Dedalus

04-03-10, 23:24

Or Monica? :(
Sorry Mikey.

Sandra was there. Mentioned you.

Plenty of plus sizes here at LR for you.

CHeers,

Dedalus, live from the LR Kino

Dedalus

04-04-10, 01:10

This is the sexy "devil with the blue dress on" that I have had eyes on most of the evening. Just finished a vigorous and oh so fun Kino freak on with this one.

Highly recommended! She has had some moron surrounding her for the past few hours without taking her to the room. I was relaxing in the Kino when both came in, laid down next to me and horsed around without doing anything. Morons will be morons I guess.

FKK LOVER was a great wingman and grabbed her in a free moment. Told her how nice his friend was (that would be me) and how much his friend would like to play doctor with her (sounding much more like me) and how she should come see him when she could ditch the moron.

FKK LOVER then found me in the Kino to inform me of the situation. Then we headed to the main you to watch the dark haired, Romanian vixen pole dance. Girl can sure shake that groove thang.

Amelia ditched moron boy and we went to the Kino where she came me a great workout.

Thanks to FKK LOVER for being a 1st class wingman!!!

Cheers,

Dedalus

Basketcase

04-04-10, 06:10

Curse my feeble minded memory for forgetting my last session with Anastasia from Gt.

She is here and look darn good. Hot gypsy looks. Could not remember if she was good or indeed if I had been with her.

Flirt, key, Zimmer.

Ok BJ (better than before at GT). Still kinda rushed but pretty wet and sloppy.

When the sex started it all came back to me.

"Ah yes. THIS is the hot number that positions herself so that deep penetration is difficult to impossible."

Only one way to deal with such an attitude: Spiderman.

For those who don't know the spiderman, you get a girl in doggy and pull her arms back, and pound away like there's no tomorrow. She resisted at first but gave in and it turned out to be a satisfactory session.

Wouldn't repeat. Girl has a bit of an attitude. But it is fun to tame one of those now and then.
Hi Dedalus

In last few trips I always miss little Anastasia (Romania). Yes, she is now working at Living Room having moved from Golden Time. She is a young looking 23 year old Romanian named Anastasia at Golden Time. I expect she uses Anastasia at Living Room but she could also be using another name at Living Room.

Yes, Anastasia has long straight dark hair to her lower back. Is around 1.55 metres without her high heels and is 1.65 meters with her high heels. She has natural B cups, tanned skin, no tattoos, brown eyes, pretty face, doe eyes and bee sting lips and her delectable bubble butt. Her trademark is a tiny black panties and usually goes topless. Also she has a penchant for black knee high socks.

Her BJ is quite good I think. She does not pay attention to the balls though. Yes, I agree her fuck is limiting and can be frustrating such that one may just give up on the sex and revert back to being finished off with her blow job. Many others have said the same thing. If you do click with her the sessions can be memorable. Having that beautiful bubble butt of Anastasia's, as Woof Woof described on this thread, to handle as you do her in doggie is a wonder to behold.

I find in doggie that she seems to almost sit on you with her upper body held up meaning that you are thrusting upwards and actually you gain quite deep penetration strangely in this position. She definitely does not position herself low so that you can have your way.

Big30

04-04-10, 06:47

Hi Dedalus

In last few trips I always miss little Anastasia (Romania). Yes, she is now working at Living Room having moved from Golden Time. She is a young looking 23 year old Romanian named Anastasia at Golden Time. I expect she uses Anastasia at Living Room but she could also be using another name at Living Room.

Indeed Anastasia is now working in LR. But in LR her name is Raluca/Raluka. I think she is 22 one years old and not 23 years old. Nice looking girl with very limited service.

Regards,
B30

Dedalus

04-04-10, 11:46

Indeed Anastasia is now working in LR. But in LR her name is Raluca/Raluka. I think she is 22 one years old and not 23 years old. Nice looking girl with very limited service.

Regards,
B30

Hey B30 and BC,

No way that I could recommend Anastasia to anyone unless I was trying to screw with them. There are too many other fine looking ladies at both GT and LR who top her in both looks, service and attitude. And BC, I'm not all that impressed with her oral skills. She is sure a far cry from Sabrina.

If I had not been a bit of a jerk and took some heavy controll over my session with her, then it would have been a disaster. Shouldn' t be that way and while I don't mind taming a shrew, most guys (especially newbies) might have issues with that type of service.

Girl is a borderline scammer. At the very best she is a lazy and lousy lay.

However Ms. Amelia is a serious winner!

Cheers,

Dedalus

Masayama

04-04-10, 13:00

I also spotted Raluca/Anastasia in World 8 days ago. Don't know what name she uses there.

Basketcase

04-04-10, 13:12

I also spotted Raluca/Anastasia in World 8 days ago. Don't know what name she uses there.
Hi Masayama,

Anastasia is known as Maya (Romania) at FKK World. She could not call herself Anastasia at World since there is already an Anastasia (Germany) that works at World. Anastasia only works sporadically at World and only the weekends I am told.

It must be the phonetics when I imagine a Romanian accent say it but "Raluca" or "Raluka" sounds a little like Dracula. LOL.

Here is me thinking of making the journey up to Nord Rhein Westfalen for a visit now....

Hessen Bub

04-04-10, 15:23

To make confusion perfect: Ralucca from World is now at Oase. Her nick there's Simona.

HB

Basketcase

04-30-10, 19:50

Note : when I entered LR I saw that 2 guests were refused, they did indeed not match with the mainstream German/Dutch racial profile as defined by O. Although LR door policy is less selective than GT's also in LR there is a selection at the door. LR at 21 hr was only very crowded with girls at that time more girls than guests this in contrast with GT.
Hi Big30,

I think this summer I will make my debut visit to Living Room. I know I have it pencilled in for June. Maybe I go earlier during one of my five trips in May that I have lined up.

Good to know that at 21:00 that Living Room on a Thursday can have more women guests than man guests. This is in stark contrast to Golden Time on a Thursday where the men can be outnumbering the women already at 15:00 and then rooms with one hour waits by 16:00! This does not work.

I know some girls have said to me that Thursdays at Golden Time can be the busiest day of the week.

Big30

04-30-10, 21:11

I know some girls have said to me that Thursdays at Golden Time can be the busiest day of the week.

Hi BC,

You are right I guess that Thursday in GT is the busiest day. For reasons I do not understand most Dutch Icebears tend to prefer visit GT on a Thursday.

LR had a very good line-up. Saw little Romina again, Amalia indeed is a very nice girl 18 years old :eek:, no sign of Indira ex-Palace (before Lavinia PHG) I heard that she is now in Artemis, spotted also blond Carmen before VV.

Staff in LR as always very friendly. I 'll be back :) May 12.

B30

Basketcase

04-30-10, 21:22

You are right I guess that Thursday in GT is the busiest day. For reasons I do not understand most Dutch Icebears tend to prefer visit GT on a Thursday.

LR had a very good line-up. Saw little Romina again, Amalia indeed is a very nice girl 18 years old :eek:, no sign of Indira ex-Palace (before Lavinia PHG) I heard that she is now in Artemis, spotted also blond Carmen before VV.

Staff in LR as always very friendly. I 'll be back :) May 12.
Hi Big30,

It is good that you notice also that Thursdays at Golden Time are manic with Ijsberen and women guests. Do the men take a day off work to come to the club or do they say they have business meeting and come to Golden Time for the meeting?

I caught up with The Painter (Picasso) last week at Oase. He has lots of nice things to say about Living Room. He could not remember if he saw long dark haired Romanian Anastasia (GT) / Raluka (LR) there.

I saw that Romina from Romania is now to be found at Living Room. So she give up the Villa vertigo?

Oh boy!! Little blond Romanian Carmen is now working at Villa Vertigo and not Golden Time. It is good that I and a team will visit Villa Vertigo and make some up to date reports for the english forum on the Villa vertigo. We go in mid June but I am over in Germany often so maybe I can do a solo tour to the Villa Vertigo and also to Living Room.

I have been watching avidly the password protected section of the Villa Vertigo blog and see some real stunning women that now work at Villa Vertigo. I really do hope that I meet some of them. Nice movies and pictures of the women working at the Villa.

Sadly, I cannot come to LR on May 12 as I am working. Maybe I can take 13 May off as it is Acension Day which is a public holiday where I am. It is a long drive from where I am to the LR to get there on the evening of 12 May after work.

I do want to see Carmen again. She makes me horny. I also owe her to take up her offer to give her a very sore bottom for 50 euro extra.

Big30

04-30-10, 21:49

Hi Big30,

I caught up with The Painter (Picasso) last week at Oase. He has lots of nice things to say about Living Room. He could not remember if he saw long dark haired Romanian Anastasia (GT) / Raluka (LR) there.

I saw that Romina from Romania is now to be found at Living Room. So she give up the Villa vertigo?

Sadly, I cannot come to LR on May 12 as I am working. Maybe I can take 13 May off as it is Acension Day which is a public holiday where I am. It is a long drive from where I am to the LR to get there on the evening of 12 May after work.

- Picasso1 knows the club scene very well, yesterday he was also in LR. LR seems to be a very popular club nowadays. Can not remember I spotted Raluca.
- No idea when Romina left VV but she is hopping a lot between the different clubs.
- As you know May 12 will be a small party in LR, first is was scheduled May 13 but because of the fact it is then a public Holiday some men could not attend.
- Can not tell why Thursday in Gt is such a popular day. Most Icebears live not far from GT and can be present early enough.
- VV on Fridays and Saturdays can be very crowded since all the action is now concentrated in the old Villa building. At those 2 days VV now has an open end. So at 22-23 hr a lot of guests are still entering. Some porn actrices are now working in VV, check the blog.

B30

Hessen Bub

05-01-10, 12:50

- No idea when Romina left VV but she is hopping a lot between the different clubs.

Unfortunately her service still is mediocre. No illusion, go let her blow your dick and then fuck her - that's her kind of service. She hates kissing and DATY.

HB

Duralong

05-08-10, 15:42

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Could have it been the stress of the day before or not, I didn’t sleep well and awake on Monday morning with one of my arrhythmic crises. A nasty one, which lasts almost the entire morning and leaves me quite weak. They are quite rare in my normal life, but they appear to be a constant in these tours.
I consider taking the day off, but roaming around without a plan and having to think what to do, where to eat, etc., would have been much more stressful, and perhaps even more expensive, than spending the day in club. Thus I decide to go anyway. At worst I will just rest, but in case I recover forces, like it happened other times…
I arrive at LR at about 13, and at least 20-25 girls are already present. I am feeling better :)
I came here with a remote hope of meeting Sandra, whom I met here, exactly on a Monday, more than one year ago, but she is not present, nor she will show up later. Who knows where is she now? I don’t know any of the girl present, thus quite a turnover has taken place here too.

* Melissa *

I am particularly impressed by a tall bootylicious brunette. Gee, that’s an ass, and she is quite “a lot of a woman”. Notable also her make-up, which gives her a magnetic gaze, Cleopatra’s style. But maybe I am still not in condition… thus I go outside to relax on a cot. Perhaps she noticed my interest in her, so when I step inside again, some 40’ later, she soon approaches me. She is Melissa, 26, Italian mother and Romanian father (yes a true rarity!), about 178, B/C cups, great body, as I said, but perhaps a bit overweight even for me that I like voluptuous girls, certainly overweight for those of you into the thin model type. She speaks 6 languages! German, English, Spanish, French, plus obviously Romanian and Italian. We can thus speak Italian for the rest of our time together. After ascertaining that what I like was in the menu, and that, in any case, she wouldn’t have stepped out of the room before the regular time, I decide she is perhaps worth a session. Once in the room she descends from her (almost normal) heels, so I realize she is in reality 1-2 cm. shorter that me, which is however a considerable height for a woman. Thus I don’t have to bend my neck to kiss her :) Foreplay is correct and enjoyable. Then it gets time to fuck. Whenever I am faced with “monumental” women like her (e.g. Katja at Bernds, Melissa at YY, or Yula at VV, etc.) and I get to fuck them, I am always surprised that my dick doesn’t get lost inside those huge bodies. Adaptation is always quite good instead and I don’t really perceive a notable difference with respect to fucking smaller girls :-) (nature has done things right to favor the mixing of genes to the greater extent, isn’t it?). She is not an exception, she is all wet and I fuck her good, all the way. I also adventure myself in a dirty talk, which seems effective in maintaining or increasing mine and her excitation. Taking into account what happened yesterday and the fact that I am still not at 100%, I think that I made a great job in extending the session past the 40’ mark, before releasing my long kept load.
When excitement is over I must admit that I see her with slightly different eyes. I notice details of her that I overlooked before and conclude that she is perhaps more beautiful when staring at her from a distance than when observing her from so close. Anyway the game is almost over and it was a good fuck. Now fondling and social time for a pleasant ending.
She should have found in me a sensitive and comprehensive guy, as she recounts me a lot of her life and opens her thoughts to me. I understood she is tired of this business, but makes it for her daughter. I tell her that, with all the languages that she knows, it shouldn't be difficult for her to find a “normal” job, if she wants (but, as we know, far less remunerative). I notify her that time is almost over, but she appears not to care of it and we continue talking. We exit the room well after the hour. To me it’s obvious that I just have to pay her the regular price for 1h, which she accepts, apparently with some disappointment, but I don’t see a reason to pay more or leave her a tip. Later I will clarify the point with her and she says it’s OK.

Well, all in all a good start for a day that I thought it was lost.

* Miriam (ex Natalie, GT) *

While I was taking the shower, I see a known girl passing by in the corridor. She also recognizes me and we LOL surprised. I knew her as Natalie at GT (and I will continue to call her so), but her new art name here is Miriam. She has just arrived and she appears glad of seeing me. OK, I am glad too, see you later.
Once upstairs I see her diligently sat on a couch in patient waiting. We smile each other. Although I am tempted and the fact that I am feeling my friend below extraordinary responsive, it’s too soon for me to be able to do something serious with her. Better if I wait some more time… but I won’t wait much longer. I go to her. How comes you are here and not at GT? She explains me that actually she has been rejected by the management of GT! I cannot believe my hears! What? And why? She tells me that they made a selection, to keep only the most active (and supposedly good, according to their criteria) girls. As I told you guys, she was used to frequent GT just 2-3 days a week, and keep for her the rest of her time. Now she works less here, thus she has to be present at least 4-5 days a week (but also to please the direction here, I understood).
Hmm.., I used to think that girls were free of doing whatever they wanted; it’s the first time that I hear of such an interference from the management of a club!
As you will learn, reading my next report on GT, I can only blame what they did. 1st it’s bad in principle, and 2nd in banning a girl like Natalie and in keeping others, IMHO they certainly made a bad deal!
Natalie is not the best looking girl ever, but she is very attractive to me. She has only one defect that I can tell, her teeth are somewhat darker than ideal, but she has a cute face and a sexy body (she also is a big, curvy girl), with a light skin, incredibly soft and a sultry ass that’s fun to grab :) I also like her attitude, she is tender, even timid at times, and somewhat funny.
I know I could have a good long session with her and we head to a room. The touch of her skin and her kisses are so exciting! And when I reach her pussy I discover she is incredibly wet! This increased even further the strength of my erection, if possible. “Natalie you are sooo wet!”, “Oh, well, I guess so!”. But I am surprised she doesn’t allow me to touch her inside, while last time she made no problem with this. She explained that she had been scratched a couple of times by some dull guys, so that she is much more cautious now. It’s not easy to convince her to let me do, at least a little, but finally I succeed. Not only she is a big girl with a big round booty, she also has one of those meaty pussy I like to lick. And I do. After some minutes of DATY she shivers impressively. Maybe I have improved my technique, because I never assisted to so many feminine climaxes like in this tour :-) (as far as payed sex is concerned).
What followed is worth to be remembered, but writing of it would be the usual routine of hard sex up to physical exhaustion that I already recounted you many times :) Approaching the hour I ask her if she had another orgasm in sight (that would have given me a motivation to continue harder, although I really have few energy left), but she says no, and explained that it's not so easy and not so frequent for her to have one. As for me I was not able to come either, but I was happy anyway.

I get a Weissbeer and go for dinner. The meal, also this Monday, is cooked at request outside and resulted, as usual, above the average club's standard.

Relaxing on a cot, I think that, after the terrible morning, a wonderful afternoon has come out indeed. I think that I even could call it a day, but... who knows. New girls have arrived for the evening and among them there is a really cute blonde.

* Hila * (hope this is the correct spelling)

Hila has a Barbie face, average height, a firm body with a sculptured ass and very nice legs. She also looks very lively and happy, in chatting and making jokes with her friends at the bar desk. Just one disturbing thing that's quite notable, also without being a fine observer, she has a tooth missing! Although not on the front, but on her right side (if I am not wrong) quite disconcerting, particularly in a beautiful face like hers. Why doesn't she fix this simple problem? Details sometimes are important, I am amazed by how this girls (and people in general), often disregard them! Anyway, considering the context, a defect that can be neglected without a great effort. But, although very much desirable, I think I don't have enough energy left for a good session with her today. However, why not to approach her and get to know her, perhaps for another occasion? It's so that ASAP a stool becomes available I sit next to her and start talking to her at the first occasion. Hila is German, she looks young, and in fact she is 23, but, quite surprising to me, she is the mother of two children! I explain her my situation and ask if I could see her in the next days. She tells me it's difficult for her to make plans, she is not present on a regular basis, but she should be here also tomorrow. I understand this is not a solid certainty, but I hope she will maintain this purpose.

I wait some more time relaxed on a stool, facing the lounge, next to the game machines. What could be called a BBW, who has been the entire day chatting with her friends and gaming, suddenly turns her head. She has ignored me hitherto, but now she sees me and comes to stamp her fleshy body against my legs and... cock. The stupid guy below seems to have a reaction to her immense pink boobs, but luckily the brain takes control. Yes a BBW, but too big (too much belly in particular) and not enough beautiful for my taste.

It's dark already and I had enough for the day. My favorites are all on duty at peak time, but for me it's time to go.

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Duralong

05-08-10, 15:42

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Tuesday I return to LR. I usually don’t like to go to the same club two days in a row, but coming here on Wed or Thu could be worse. Today I hope to see Hila again and it won’t be bad to reprise what I left half way yesterday with Natalie (aka Miriam).

* Natalie *

She arrives shortly after me and she approaches me. We talk for a while on a couch. I am uncertain if to take her immediately, but I feel the blood flowing in my friend below and cannot do otherwise. The session is a good continuation of the one we had yesterday. I am willing to come and void my balls this time. I have an hard time in making it, but slightly after the regular time I succeed and I am feeling relieved.
I am grateful to Natalie because I felt her always participative. The rooms have no bathroom here, but we have a shower together at the public place. Something not intimate and to be remembered thus.
Later we will have some eyes contact and some brief chatting, but I won’t feel of repeating with her again.
Today it's a day than slower than yesterday, fewer girls and even less bears. She will spend almost the entire afternoon alone, before being able to take another guy to a room! Too bad that she is too much in the business when she is in public. She prefers to spend even long hours alone, not to miss an occasion to catch a guy, rather than taking it easy and spend some time jokingly with you (i.e. me), just for the sake of it. Could be less boring for her too, I think.

Hila won't show up even later. Quite a disappointment for me. I am feeling down, none of the girls present seems worth the money and the effort of a session.
But I have at least another good meal.
An horde of bears has arrived for the evening, but no new girls. Perhaps I should have waited longer, but I am bored and tired. At about 20 I leave, just in time for the sunset.

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Tjohoo

05-18-10, 18:39

Living Room has a real beauty working in the reception, brown hair, long legs. I wish she would drop her clothes and change side!

Friendly welcome with a smile and a handshake. The whole club is a very friendly and polite place in my opinion.

I went down and undressed and after doing my homework last time, I skipped the big showerroom and went to the small one next to the sauna instead. Better showers, more hot water.

Up to the bar and grabbed a CocaCola. I could not find Adina, I would have liked a repeat with her. I talked with Erika. I was almost giving her a green light when I saw a blond young 10 on the other side of the room. I turned Erika down and started some light flirting with the blond girl. Soon she moved to a sofa and signaled for me that there where an empty spot next to her.

Her name is Daniela, she is 21 and from Romania. Daniela is a funny happy girl. Easy to talk with and very open. She has that thing that is really important: presence. She is constantly looking me into my eyes, trying to steal kisses (not a difficult thing to do with succes!) stroking me and asking me to touch her. Well, we soon ended up in a room, and so this years so far best session started.

I would describe Daniela like this: GF w PSA = girlfriend with pornstar abitions!. That is an exellet combination. With her on top of me riding me softly, and at the same time looking me in the eyes smiling horny I did not last long enough. After the sex we talked about a lot of things and she continued to entertain my body and mind. It's a pleasure to do business with people who like their work and that are fitted for it.

After the failiure with Mandy at Samya the day before and the now sucess with Daniela I was almost planning to leave the club to be certain to go back home with a fresh happy memory. But I did not do that. Instead I took a long sauna, a nap out in a sunchair outside (15 degrees celcius) and then it was dinnertime. I had spotted a really short thin blond girl (whats her name?) that I was planning to "hunt down". But she was very busy, and when she finally came in reach a BIG blackhaired girl came up to me with a very persistant selltalk. I am not in to big girls but she would not take my hints. The blond girl disapeared and I did not se her anymore that evening. I excused me from the blakhaired girl and went out with a coffea to the sun-chairs. When I came in again I ended up at the bar next to a blond really beautiful young girl with many tatoos. She had that kind of "GirlNextDoor" look to her.

Her name was Chayenne (not sure about the spelling). She is 21 years old and from Dusseldorf. She reminded me of all the blond beautis that I never got to fuck when I was 20 years old. It was time to correct that error now. Chayenne was hard to flirt down. She was very polite, tried to talk english with me. We talked of and on for maybe 20 minutes before she asked: Sex?.

Do I want sex with a 21 year old blond beauty? Of course!

We had to wait for a room for maybe 15 minutes. We ended up in a room without a window. LR has not so good rooms as they have in Samya. She gave me a great blowjob. And the we had a nice fuck. It's difficult when you had a super-session just hours earlier. It's impossible not to compare. And Cayenne did not come close to Daniela. But that do not meen that the session with Chayenne was not worth 50E. Because it was.

Now I was spent and drained. I took some more sauna, talked to a trio of guys from Lithuania who recommended Acapulco. Next trip maybe. After the sauna I went up to the bar, drank some water, said goodbye to Chayenne and went back to my hotel. Next trip is planned to be in June. I can hardly wait.

Vito Corleone

05-28-10, 05:02

Visited the club a couple of times recently & really enjoyed myself. I do not remember all the babes I sessioned with, but I remember 2 really hot German women.

Shaleen. German. Blonde. Drop dead gorgeous! Tall with a tight toned bod & bolt-ons. Bj & sex was average, but I just loved watching her pretty face working my cock. Incredible abs! I think she used to work @ GT.

Fee (a traditional German name). Pretty face with incredible greens eys that made me melt durng oral. Tall, blk hr & a nice slim bod with great large B's. BJ was decent & doggie was great. Watching her in the mirror getting banged doggie was priceless! Looks like Megan Fox!

A couple of hot Romy babes were also good sessions. Forgot their names. Romina & Anastasia were also there for those who accually give a fcuk.

Rumors of LR's lineup going down hill are premature. There was a really hot, tall, thin babe working the bar. If she needs to make some extra cash.......

Ortos

05-28-10, 07:04

Visited the club a couple of times recently & really enjoyed myself...Rumors of LR's lineup going down hill are premature. There was a really hot, tall, thin babe working the bar. If she needs to make some extra cash.......

Which nights did you visit LR, weekends or weekday nights?

Also what would be your rough esitimate as to numbers of girls in the line-up during peak periods?

Thx,

O

Vito Corleone

05-28-10, 21:47

Which nights did you visit LR, weekends or weekday nights?

Also what would be your rough esitimate as to numbers of girls in the line-up during peak periods?

Thx,

O
Wednesday & Friday. I would guess around 45 on Wed & 60 on Fri.

Masayama

05-31-10, 01:43

I made a couple of visits to Living Room about a week ago. Here's a brief report about the girls I sessioned with:

Sheila: Greece, age 26, brunette, 170cm?, C or B cup. Charming girl, quite enthusiastic. Nice body, pretty face. Kissing, DATY, BBBJ, sex in several positions and CIM finish. WIll repeat.

Vicky: Romania, blonde, 170cm?, B cup, middle twenties? I think her face looks more German than Romanian, slightly upwards pointing nose. Very nice session, but I was tired and didn't finish in half an hour. I think she offered CIM, but my memory is a bit blurry about the details. Will probably repeat.

Erika/Erica: Romania, bleached blonde, 155cm?, B cup, middle/early twenties. Very nice, fit body. Quite cute. Nice 1 hour session with kissing, DATY, BBBJ and sex in multiple positions. Don't think she offers CIM. After the session she tried to get me donate a larger amount to her allegedly sick mother, though she didn't complain when I only gave her a small tip. Will probably repeat.

Kati/Katy/Cathy: Romania, brunette, 160-165cm, A cup, early twenties. Quite average looking Romanian. Average session with BBBJ and sex in a few positions. I didn't ask for DATY. Didn't finish within 30 minutes, and didn't see any point of extending. She probably doesn't do CIM - neither of us asked. Not worth repeating.

The line-up at LR seems quite good these days, with more girls (especially pretty ones) than I've seen at most of my other visits to this club. But I did miss BJ queen Dana (PL), who's apparently been oberved more often at Acapulco recently by members of the Dutch polar bear forum.

Henio

05-31-10, 01:58

Visited LR Saturday night. Pretty extensive lineup, probably about 50-60 girls which is a lot for this club. Plenty of guests without it getting too crowded. It was a nice day so the garden was in play. Never a wait for room, at least not when I needed one.

Did three sessions, all Romanian:

Lori: One of the prettiest girls in the place, has one of them smiles that is genuine and reaches to the eyes. Great GFE session. About 165 cm, b-cups, very nice figure, dark hair

Erika: Small blond girl. Nice tits, b-cups borderline c. Ended up doing 90 minutes with her. Another great GFE session. Gives pretty good massage as well

Carla: She looked like a girl I did at VIPS/Privee in Tarragona that wanted to be a pornstar (and gave the performance to prove her point) and for a while I thought it was the same girl. Session started out ok, but then at one point she asks me not to lick her body since that will mean she will have to take shower after the session. That kinda killed the mood for me

Masayama

05-31-10, 09:07

Never a wait for room, at least not when I needed one.
I did have to wait for a room on one occasion the weekend before. But at least I didn't have to resort to the kino this time. Actually the kino was pretty dead compared to some previous visits. Could be because the girls in the porn films shown this time were less attractive than many of the girls in LR, but probably there were fewer "polar bears".

Hessen Bub

05-31-10, 11:31

Last visit (on a Wednesday) around midnight I had to wait for over one hour for a room. And I was led into a room with 3 beds, two of them occupied by couples fucking and sucking.

HB

Ed Setra

05-31-10, 15:06

http://www.fkk-livingroom.de/

After the long trip to Golden Time yesterday it was good to take the S28 from Dusseldorf Hbf to Ikea Kaarst station and then a short 5 minute walk to the Living Room. I hadn’t been here for a couple of years and heard here that it had improved and got more popular. I always liked the place and can say that it is certainly busier and the talent pool has improved too. I visited during the daytime from about 13.00 to 19.00 and there were always more than 25 girls present at any time, probably more than this number later as the evening shift arrived.
Always a nice welcome at the desk, asked had I been there before and off to change. First session was with Karina (possibly Karolina?) from Poland. Blond, 27, really cute smile and very chatty (in English). She explained the menu and prices in the room and the session was so hot I didn’t mind being gently upsold. This girl is nice but could cut back on the moaning a bit. Afterwards I rested a while on a sun lounger in the garden with a drink and got chatting to Flora and a pal.
Then a strange thing happened. The girl on reception came over to me along with Mercedes a very slim tanned SP dressed in a type of chiffon high waisted swimsuit. She had very distinctive eye make-up. The receptionist asked if I’d like to fuck Mercedes. Well yes I replied but not right now, I’m resting. She said that another customer would pay for my session. WTF? I laughed and said maybe later. She then explained that there was a guy downstairs in the sauna who wanted to pay to watch someone have a session with this girl. Why me? They must have heard about my pornstar equipment and performance. Eh no, more likely they wanted a foreigner, someone who was unlikely to be a regular. Not sure about the other guy watching though, but I’ve been to sex parties before so nothing new in performing in front of another.
I decided I’d give it a go and must say it was a bit strange. Started out OK, but let’s say that my enthusiasm waned a bit after about 25 minutes of oral and multi-positioned sex. Not sure why, nice girl but not greatly gifted in technique. I suppose the fact that a German guy was lying at the side of the bed watching probably had something to do with it. Anyways, I decided to leave them to it at about the half hour mark. I made my apologies and left.
They say that after a fall from a horse the best thing to do is get back in the saddle as soon as possible, so that’s just what I did. I had enjoyed chatting earlier with Flora so I sought her out. She asked how my session went, I told her it was not good and she invited me to the Kino for a massage. From there it was on to a room for an hour of GFE mixed with PSE. Flora is really a delight, not one of your Opticks but genuinely gifted in attitude and technique. She is almost gymnastic in her use of positions. Highly recommended. Afterwards she joined me for dinner which was a nice touch too.

Qjump

06-01-10, 13:26

I am currently spending a large amount of time in Dusseldorf, and have even rented a house there (just 6klm from LR) the choice of house was swayed some what, with its position.
Anyway I have been going three or four times a week for around a month now, but was there again last night after a weeks travels away from there.
Last night the football was on so it was really quiet with loads of girls moaning the slowness of business.
But on the up it was a buyers market!
Anyway, there has been an improvement in the class of girls in the last month, and last night some super looking and more importantly sessions.
See you all there in the summer months!
Q

Wanking

06-06-10, 17:43

NLG report: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1029168&postcount=3223

Spent 5 hours in Living room from 1 pm to 6pm until I had to leave for the airport.

Was very tired when I arrived and spent 2 hours in the wellness area to recover all my party treff fucking from the previous days. I thought the day selection was weak with some real mingers evident.
In fact the line up in No Limit Girlies the previous day was much better visually than the day line up here. Of course the really hot women only seem to arrive in Living room from the late afternoon onwards.

I had one session but a hot Polish babe, and I took her for one hour. Milena 22, and really beautiful. A tall slim brunette, an easy 8 in my book. Took her for one hour, and I am glad I did. My cock was sore from all my previous days fucking, so after so blowing she gave me this wonderfully sensual sort of cock massage with loads of oil. Not a hand job as such but it was just what the doctor ordered. I told her she should visit the schools of Germany and teach the young ladies her great technique, which made her laugh out loud. With her sitting on my face I eventually came after about 50 minutes. €75 and worth it.

I notice they serve the dinner at 5 pm now.

Ortos

06-06-10, 20:48

NLG report: http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1029168&postcount=3223

Spent 5 hours in Living room from 1 pm to 6pm until I had to leave for the airport.

I had one session but a hot Polish babe, and I took her for one hour. Milena 22, and really beautiful. A tall slim brunette, an easy 8 in my book. Took her for one hour, and I am glad I did.

Nice report about LR, which really rang home more than normal because I was just in the club myself a few nights ago. You're right about the line-up getting good visually after 18.00, because when I arrived, around 20.30, the place was hopping with more than 40 girls! Lots of decent visuals, though I personally, rated the LR line-up below the level I observed at World and Oase (on Weds and Thurs respectively)...but I suppose this is a subjective thing --though subjectivity in taste for beauty is strongly counter-balanced by the more favourable pricing that NRW clubs like LR offer vs the standard Hessen Pries.

About the Polish girl, Melina, can you give a brief physical description? Because I was chatting heavily with a Polish girl there and I completely forgot her name...I wonder if I passed up a real gem?

Thanks once again for your superb report.

O

Vompat

06-07-10, 08:00

Hi,

Got to LR in around 1400, have to say that line up was poor, a lots 6s and 7s, few 8s. Probably the time of the week and day. Have to say that I have become very picky when I am in FKK

After looking carefully, picked Joanna from Romania, would have not normally bothered in place like LR. I was very happy for the session she showed passion and good oral skills.

I had a massage and was going to leave to catch my plane, but in the kino I saw Monica from Germany lying down and just end up fucking her and that was crazy, passioned session under the supervision of large, polite, german gentleman, very happy. Later when I saw her face in the light I tought; oh my god, did I fuck that?

That make me think, should I start doing those 6s and 7s to get this kind of service.

Wanking

06-08-10, 18:37

About the Polish girl, Melina, can you give a brief physical description? Because I was chatting heavily with a Polish girl there and I completely forgot her name...I wonder if I passed up a real gem?

She said she was 22, about 5'8'', slim with C cup tits. Beautiful face, a bit like Catherine Zeta Jones with blue eyes. Shoulder length dark brown or maybe it was black hair. Reasonable English. Has been living in Germany 11 years, moved here with her Mom.

Qjump

06-17-10, 11:41

Basketcase

06-21-10, 22:47

So Ok, I was there last night, and I went to the room with a girl, we have a session, I pull out and finish on her chest. we finish go downstairs I get 50 out she tells me no its 25 extra to finish on chest..... first time I have seen this girl in the club... I am thinking she has me down as a tourist.....I tell he no.... but she insists, I go upstairs direct to reception and complain, they give me a sorry and a discount card for 25 euros next visit. ok I think that is the fairest way to make me happy.
After around two hours is start to session with two girls in the Kino, we then go to room, we have a great time, i pull out to finish off and come over her breasts.
One follows me down to get paid I get 100 euros out and she says no you finished on both of our breasts you need to give us another 25 each!
Of course I say no and she says ok lets go to reception on this i say ok lets go then she backs down.
I really like this club but can not understand how suddenly the girls have started to try these games?
Anyone else had these experiences in Living room recently?
Q
In Living Room I do usually finish in the girls mouth when going for extras or maybe anal if I fancy a bit of ass and her ass does it for me and it is on offer.

I do have done my best to not pay for COB and will not pay unless the girl did advise prior that COB is extra. IN saying that I have paid for COB finish many times whether at 25 euro or 50 euro per extra.

You have to know that in some clubs that 25 euro for COB finish seems perfectly fine. It is standard extra at FKK Palace where it is 50 euro extra so in comparison to Palace you should count yourself lucky that you were charged 25 euro extra.

I think also at Das 5 Element there is a price list placed in the men's locker that come on body is an extra as well. There are probably other clubs too that I know that list COB as an extra.

At Golden Time there are girls that insist that COB is an extra at 25 euro which tend to be the German and Polish girls I have found in my experience. Then there are the girls that do not charge for the COB finish.

I do need to keep private my list of girls who allow this since I do not want to lose their forbearance. Some girls now charge for it since they learn that other girls also charge for it.

Nonetheless you did not have to pay for the COB in either case really since in the first instance you got a 25 euro discount card and in the second case you did not pay both girls or even one.

So if anything you have won out of the deal. Feel proud of that. Others probably did not win out since they did not stand your ground like you did. Will those girls now repeat with you any more?

Charlie 123

06-22-10, 01:15

I recall reading in the past on one or more of the West German FKK threads here that the pricing policy for one (or more) of the FKK clubs is 50E for the first 30 minutes and then 25E for subsequent half-hours. As I often like to extend when I get on with a girl, I'd be keen to take advantage of such a pricing structure when I'm in Düsseldorf next Tuesday.

I seem to recall that it is LR that has this price system - can one of the local experts please confirm/correct me

Many thx

Charlie

Basketcase

06-22-10, 08:44

Charlie 123

06-22-10, 10:24

Yes, correct.Thx Basket.

Charlie

Qjump

06-22-10, 20:43

So if anything you have won out of the deal. Feel proud of that. Others probably did not win out since they did not stand your ground like you did. Will those girls now repeat with you any more?

Oddly yes have been with one of the pair again with COB and no mention of 25 extra!
I have found most girls in LR seem to do COB with no problems and no extra costs, its my local and find myself thee three times a week at least.
The single girl who tried to charge I would not repeat anyway, her performance was not that good anyway.
Cheers for the feedback anyway BC!

Basketcase

06-22-10, 21:11

I did go to Living Room after spending 9.75 hours at Golden Time. Martha the Thekefrau at Golden Time did give me a discount card when I asked so that I may only pay 25 euro extra to enter Living Room.

The pretty blond Thekefrau at Living Room did shake my hand on entry and took my name and did take my 25 euro and discount card from Golden Time. The blond Living Room Thekefrau did wear a low cut top with push up bra so I did become a bit distracted staring at her breasts as one does.

The bar staff took ages to serve customers. Annoying.

During my stay I did not eat any of the food. I did miss the pizza at Living Room and I also did miss pizza at Golden Time. It was no loss since this type of food is not the best anyway.

We did take a whirl pool and did note the quaint smallness of Living Room and the similarities with Golden Time in terms of the furnishing, wall hangings and girl line ups.

My sessions were:

1. 75 euro for 45 minutes in the room and CIM finish. We did make kissing, breast licking, pussy licking, nipple licking on me, blasen, sex in three positions and then more blasen to completion. I did send a large dollop of come into her mouth such that it hit the back of her throat and she did gag and got up from her kneeling position but she did keep pumping my schwanz with her hand to make sure I was milked.

2. 100 euro for one hour of time in between Kino blow job and room time. This session was one that I did not need but I was greedy and just went and did it since I was being a man. The girl did allow kissing, breast licking, nipple licking on me, blasen, more kissing, ass rimming on her, more blasen on me, kissing, blasen and then sex in three positions. I did then take the condom off for some body to body play over her young firm but curvy nubile body with my schwanz doing all the exploring. Then more blasen and then rest, more blasen, then rest and more blasen. Then more body to body hugging and fondling. Then more blasen such that I said to stop since I would not come after so much stimulation. I did intend to come in her mouth and she did make such an effort that I did give 100 euro.

My friends did say I did pick well for my girls that I did session with. Very pretty girls that turn heads.

There were many girls that I recognise from World, Golden Time and smaller NRW clubs. These girls did come and greet me and I did note that these girls did work here now for future reference. For example, Romina (ro) works at Living Room. Pretty blond Kim also works here.

At the end when we left I did get given, as did my companion, a 5 euro discount card to return to Living Room. That was a nice touch. I will add that 5 euro discount card to the 7 other 10 euro discount cards for Living Room that I have already. I have no idea when I will use all of these discount cards.

We had spent 5 hours in Living Room to 02:45.

Basketcase

06-22-10, 21:12

Oddly yes have been with one of the pair again with COB and no mention of 25 extra!
I have found most girls in LR seem to do COB with no problems and no extra costs, its my local and find myself thee three times a week at least.
The single girl who tried to charge I would not repeat anyway, her performance was not that good anyway.
Cheers for the feedback anyway BC!
Qjump,

Very good then. No harm done.

Go knock yourself out coming all over the girls tits, chests, asses and faces.

Sky Ryder

06-22-10, 22:42

First let me say to all of the guys who take time to put the train, subway, bus stop info in their postings. Were it not for that little tidbit of info I probably would not have ventured to Living Room today. It also saved me a part of the cost of a rental car and the hassle factor went WAY DOWN!
If I ever am in a club with one of the guys that does this, I will personally pay your entrance or a 30 min session!
Now to the fun stuff!
I read a lot of reviews about this place and had a good feeling that it might well turn out to be a place I would enjoy a lot, I was correct and so were the reviewers.
Took the S Bahn to Kaarst IKEA, and then walked towards Mikkie D's turn right across the little stream, next right, walk about 300m and there is a big sign! All in all about 15 mins on foot.
Paid the 50E entry and was given a nice "first timers tour" ,by Silva. This is the first time I have ever met an English gal in an FKK club, but she was friendly and forthcoming and even gave me a few pointers on how to make sure I didn't get taken advantage of, or get "ripped off".
Not the prettiest gal, but nice legs and a great ass if you like you women over 25. I filed her name away as a possible and as it turns out a lot was possible!
I showered, shaved and found a nice place outside at one of the tables, it was a glorious day to be outside for sure!
She came over and asked if she could sit and I said yes, but when I looked closer I noticed she was crying. Now I was thinking, OH GREAT!, what a way to start the day. As it turns out, her Mother had died and she just got the news. I gathered they were not close, but anyway. We moved to a lounge chair and while talking watched a gent get a nice BBBJ from one of the Romanian gals.
It was nice conversation, with no pressure to session, of course I was one of about 5 guys in the place at this early hour.
I found her attractive and got the feeling she would be a fun session, I am on a roll, I was right again.
We decided to enjoy the sunshine outside and moved to one of the couches outside. She told me that another gent had told her he wanted a session while I was in the W/C, she told him she was currently busy, so he made it point to choose the lounge chair directly across from us, and she made it point to make sure he got his money's worth in viewing pleasure!
I didn't figure out what was going on until she positioned her hips in such a way that this guy could see my tongue in action and watch her face at the same time. I have to admit, it was kind of funny. I had brought a little pocket rocket with me and she asked me to insert it while she fingered herself to orgasm, and then covered me up and said, "how about standing up doggie style and I want you to really give it to me." Who am I to disappoint a lady? We went at it like two teenagers, I know that part of it was a show, but I also know she was REALLY wet. I couldn't keep up the pace and sat down on the lounge and she mounted me reverse cow girl and was staring right at the guy across from us as she rode me for all I was worth, I really enjoyed the sight of her ass bouncing on my balls, and lasted about 5 mins. At the appropriate moment, she let out a big Yippieeee! I almost busted a gut trying not to laugh.
After the shower I grabbed a bite and was sitting outside when the manager came over and introduced himself and asked if it was my first time, how I heard about the place, if I was having a good time, and then asked me if I had sessioned with one of the gals. I said, "yes" and he asked who and if I enjoyed myself. I told him it was very nice and she was a funny and personable lady. I was impressed by this gesture, and it got better as the day went on. A little later, he saw me inside and made a point to tell me about the BarBQ at 5 pm. He also told me if I had any questions about any of the girls to be sure to ask him and he would let me know about them. I did ask about a couple of the recommendations and he told me the ones that were not working, and when I asked about one lady, his response was "she is cute", when I asked about another, he said she," gives a great session", I was really impressed.
It was getting closer to the time I had to leave to catch my train, so I wanted to get one more session in before I left. I wanted to try the manager's suggestion, a tall dark haired beauty, but she was busy. I had been eyeing another curvy gal, who had a sweet face, but she disappeared. I was interested in a little cutie, but I thought she was busy, but lucky for me the guy moved on. He name is Roxana and I think she is from Hungary, rather petite, but nicely formed breasts, and an ass you can bounce a quarter off of, OMG!
We chatted for a few minutes, her no English, my no German, or anything else she spoke. She invited her friend over to help with the translation, and as it turns out, it is her friends first day at this club. She works as a private trainer 3 days a week and has worked in a private house/ massage before.
I told Roxana I would like to go for a session and she tried to get me to take her friend as well, I declined on the fact I was almost out of cash.
Went into room 7, which has mirrors on three sides and the ceiling. I was really glad to be able to watch her in action anyway I turned, good BBBJ, and then she got down on all fours to offer me to return the favor, I think she started out with some pretty good fake moans, and then I must have really hit the spot, because she started quivering and the juices really started flowing. She wouldn't let me put on the cover as she wanted to demonstrate her method of orally donning a condom.
Going at doggie with that great little ass in three sets of mirrors was a mental picture that should last a few cold nights……LOL
The lineup got a LOT better after 4:00pm, there were at least 35 girls and I hated to leave.
The BBQ was nice and they have tent set up to watch the World Cup on big screen.
I will certainly return to this place as there were a number of gals I would love to try and I can't wait for a return engagement with Roxana. The other interesting thing here is the second 30 mins in the same session is only 25 Euros, so an hour would be 75 E, and 90 mins 100E….not bad with a good girl!

Due Facce

06-23-10, 14:04

I will certainly return to this place as there were a number of gals I would love to try and I can't wait for a return engagement with Roxana. The other interesting thing here is the second 30 mins in the same session is only 25 Euros, so an hour would be 75 E, and 90 mins 100E….not bad with a good girl!I think that 90 min are 125 Euro.

75euro for the first hour + 50 for the first half of second hour (another half hour is 25 so 2hour = 75+75 {=50+25 + 50+25} )

I suppose.

Henio

06-23-10, 19:10

I think that 90 min are 125 Euro.

75euro for the first hour + 50 for the first half of second hour (another half hour is 25 so 2hour = 75+75 {=50+25 + 50+25} )

I suppose.
nope, not unless the girl announces that up front. House standard is 50+25+25+25+25+25... Same house standard at GT
At YY it is 50+25+50+25 if I remember correctly

Akibono

06-23-10, 22:13

nope, not unless the girl announces that up front. House standard is 50+25+25+25+25+25... Same house standard at GT
At YY it is 50+25+50+25 if I remember correctly

Not many girls will go for 25 the second 30 minutes--unless they really like you. The better girls won't ever take 25 for the second 30 minutes.

Henio

06-23-10, 23:05

Actually I remember exactly one girl who once charged me 50+25+50 at GT. She did only mention it at the locker afterwards and at that time apologised for forgetting to tell me that was her pricing and it would be up to me if I would pay her 100 or 125. For some reason I cant remember if I then payed her 100 or 125, but since then I have done a number of additional sessions with her (all 30 or 60 minutes) and no hard feelings on either side.

Never been charged 50+25+50 etc. at LR and I have done quite a number of long sessions there (for some reason my sessions at LR are usually longer than at GT). If I am not hitting it decently off with a girl, I am sure as hell not gonna hang around in the room with her for 90 minutes so maybe the like and dislike has something to do with it and I just get out soon enough from the ones that I give the creeps, but serisouly, who is gonna hang around in a room with a girl for 90 minutes that you are not having any kind of chemisty with?

I have encounter few up-front 50+50 girls in the past at GT and one that anounced it at the lockers, but dont recall ever meeting a 50+50 girl at LR, I would say about 5-7% of the ones I have sessioned with at GT have been 50+50 girls (all announced upfront except one) so I am always a bit surprised hearing the number of 50+50 girls there where some even say that "many" or "most" of the girls are doing the 50+50.

I never ask upfront about the price and if the girl does not announce it to be 50+50 before I enter the room, I just hand over the correct amount at the end which I believe to be 50+25+25....etc and everything seems to be fine.

Vito Corleone

06-24-10, 02:33

Not many girls will go for 25 the second 30 minutes--unless they really like you. The better girls won't ever take 25 for the second 30 minutes.Nadine (German) & Joy (Poland) are very popular girls who charge 50+25+25. Heidi was also 50+25 last year, but I hear she is a 50+50 babe now.

Vito Corleone

06-24-10, 02:49

I would say about 5-7% of the ones I have sessioned with at GT have been 50+50 girls (all announced upfront except one) so I am always a bit surprised hearing the number of 50+50 girls there where some even say that "many" or "most" of the girls are doing the 50+50."Many" or "most" charging 50+50 is kind of ridiculous, but I have noticed more women charging 50+50 since December 09'. I do not mind paying the extra 25 euro for a super hot babe like Cheyenne (last year) or Carla, but some are really trying to get away with it. Denise (Romy) only charged 50+25 late last year, but now charges 50+25. Gave her 75 & she said "100." Rolled my eyes & told her "next time" & headed for the shower.

Travelerb69

06-24-10, 03:39

From my experience in LR all girls I sessioned with charged 75 for the hour. Never met a 100 hour girl there, the same happened with all friends I was hanging around with. Like Henio,at LR I never ask before- if they say nothing, price is the standard 50 for the first 1/2 hour and 25 for each following ones. If girl demands you more just after the session, if you go to management they will support your side.

As for really extended time at LR, my only experience was with a girl I spent 2 hours, and was charged 50+25+25+25. But this girl was a friend I already knew quite well from another club.

The only clubs I know of whose standard fares are 50+25+50+25 and so on are Samya in Köln and Yin Yang in Roermond. At Samya this rule is really enforced.

However, at GT although the standard fare is like LR, I have met, read about and heard of several girls charging 100 for the hour. A few times I paid that because I really liked the girl, but girl always told me that ahead. I can not say which is the proportion of girls charging 75 or 100 for the hour. Again, if one girl demands you more than 50+25+25+25 just after the session, if you see management they will support your side.A few times I made a deal of 50+25+50+25 with girls that generally charge 50+50 but again that was negotiated ahead and I had already been to the room with them before.

From what I read here things might have changed recently because management has been trying to enforce the 75 for the hour price. This is second hand info, not sure about the present situation.

At the youppie forum they even have a specific thread for "girls that charge 75 or 100 for the hour at GT".

Travelerb69

06-24-10, 03:51

Not many girls will go for 25 the second 30 minutes--unless they really like you. The better girls won't ever take 25 for the second 30 minutes.

Have to disagree on that one.I do not see a relation between better girls and prices at GT, regarding looks or performance.As just an example, German Lisa is a stunner, only gets good reviews(despite her "no kissing no pussy licking mantra" and charges 75, while on the other hand not so good looking and bad performers charge 100. It depends.

True that some girls charge 75 from old regular customers they already knew before they changed their price to 100, that's what they demand from "new" customers.

Akibono

06-24-10, 04:03

Have to disagree on that one.I do not see a relation between better girls and prices at GT, regarding looks or performance.As just an example, German Lisa is a stunner, only gets good reviews(despite her "no kissing no pussy licking mantra" and charges 75, while on the other hand not so good looking and bad performers charge 100. It depends.

True that some girls charge 75 from old regular customers they already knew before they changed their price to 100, that's what they demand from "new" customers.

I don't have enough experience at LR to definitively say what the pricing is. However, at GT, until recently, alot of girls charge 50/30 minutes and a few will only do 30 minute sessions.

GT gets alot of regular customers. I can't see how a girl what charges more and gives bad service or looks bad will get many customers. Would you pay more and get less? I believe the law of supply and demand still holds true. Now, you may be as good looking or charming as Henio which may change the entire equation.

Vito Corleone

06-24-10, 04:13

From my experience in LR all girls I sessioned with charged 75 for the hour. Never met a 100 hour girl there, the same happened with all friends I was hanging around with.

From what I read here things might have changed recently because management has been trying to enforce the 75 for the hour price. This is second hand info, not sure about the present situation.I have never met a 50+50 babe at LR, but I wonder if Romina & Cassandra are charging 50+50. I heard they were charging 50+50 at GT.

Management is really cracking down on the 50+50 girls. Carla & a hot German chick (forgot her name) practically begged me not to mention the pricing with management. I did not complain or raise an issue with the pricing, just shrugged my shoulders & said "100 an hour is fine" as I was sucking their perky tits. Both seemed a little paranoid as they made sure again as we were leaving the room to not make an issue with management. Sounds like their jobs might be on the line.

Big30

06-24-10, 04:52

There is no House Standard in NRW! Forbidden by law.

In the past 50/25/25/25 was the informal rule. Currently it is: 50/25/50/25/50 ... .

Theke at GT/LR/VV/PHG accept these informal rules. 50/50/50/50 is OK as long as girls inform you before making a room.

Last night I saw the Germany-Ghana game in PHG! Ciao!

Big30

Travelerb69

06-24-10, 05:03

There is no House Standard in NRW! Forbidden by law.

In the past 50/25/25/25 was the informal rule. Currently it is: 50/25/50/25/50 ... .

Theke at GT/LR/VV/PHG accept these informal rules.
Big30

You mean 50-25-50-25 is the current (yeah,we know, informal, girls are independent)rate at both GT an LR now? Since when?

Big30

06-24-10, 05:23

You mean 50-25-50-25 is the current (yeah,we know, informal, girls are independent)rate at both GT an LR now? Since when?

Yes that is my point! Do not ask me since when! There was not an exact moment, so I cannot tell you.

B30

Ascari

06-24-10, 23:52

"Many" or "most" charging 50+50 is kind of ridiculous, but I have noticed more women charging 50+50 since December 09'. I do not mind paying the extra 25 euro for a super hot babe like Cheyenne (last year) or Carla, but some are really trying to get away with it. Denise (Romy) only charged 50+25 late last year, but now charges 50+25. Gave her 75 & she said "100." Rolled my eyes & told her "next time" & headed for the shower.From what i can remember the 50-50 pricing started around june 2008, i think the Romanian girls started this trend. The first time i payed 50-25-50 was in october 2007 in GT.

Creature2

06-30-10, 05:22

Still Day 2

Living Room

After GT,
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1038183&postcount=1689

and after a 30 min rides, we arrived easily at 11 pm to Living Room. The sound of high level of music was fulfiling the street. The club seems vivid from outside, even at that late night. We entered by paying 25 Euro and the discount card. Than downstairs to change. When I checked the club, I found that the premises was intact, no change since 2008, but the line-up was really amazing. This was a Thursday night, and there were more than 40 girls (young and restless) inside the club. There were mostly Romanian and Bulgarian but I saw a few Baltic (Russian, Latvian, Polish) girls as well (to my liking).

As this was late, I didn’t wanted wait too much. After some jacuzzi, I went to chat to a big Polish girl Jenny. She had another Polish girlfriend, which name escapes me, and she was even bigger than Jenny. Jenny was a blond from Wroclaw, she had decent English without accent. I asked what was the hourly rate, she says this is 75 Euro but she added they prefer to do only 30 min, it seems they find one hour too long for the bucks. Ok, we moved downstairs for a quick 30 min. The room downstairs was simple (on my previous visit, I went to a room upstairs with a lovely nice bed and four walls and the ceiling was covered by big mirrors). The French forumers says she was a bit distant in the room. I should agree, she didn’t kiss well, she didn’t fuck well, too. She said I am a bit tired and she can feel it. Maybe this was true. It was 2 am in the morning, I was still trying to fuck, even I didn’t sleep well the previous night. Of course, I couldn’t finish after 30 min with Jenny and the session with Jenny has nothing to write home about, except she is being an awesome blond Polish girl.

After the session, we stayed until 3 am, watching those Romanian tiny little babes and some super hot chicks going with the flow of the fast music, some of them were dancing topless and it was nice to watch how they move and rotate their young, cute bodies. They were really young and restless, very agile and energetic in this late night time. How do they found that energy, with spermas of male generations? Maybe it is much better to have the eye candy instead of going to a room with one of them, especially when you are tired, cause you miss the fun part of the atmosphere when you are in the room. Time to call it a night at 3 am, in Dusseldorf.

Next day, please, I need some rest, no more sessions just relax;
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1038194&postcount=502

Basketcase

06-30-10, 21:19

From what i can remember the 50-50 pricing started around june 2008, i think the Romanian girls started this trend. The first time i payed 50-25-50 was in october 2007 in GT.
Ascari,

You are not wrong. I do remember in 2008 that in Golden Time there were girls starting to charge 50 euro per half hour. Only a few but there were girls starting to do it. As you say it was the Romanian girls that come to mind mainly as the ones that were doing it. Romina (ro) and Antonia (ro) were two definite culprits in 2008. Ricarda (turkey) was another one from 2008 who charged 50+50+50+50. There was also murmurings in 2008 that come 2009 that the pricing at Golden Time would be standard 50+50+50+50 but this appears to be just the girls talking and colluding amongst themselves.

The only sauna club that I know doing 50+50+50+50 pricing in Nord Rhein Westfalen is Park Sauna Residenz. There may be others but that is all I know.

Henio

07-01-10, 01:29

Polish Melissa was charging 50+50 (as far back as at least 2006) and was not informing clients before hand. Same with Regie around the same time, perhaps a bit later and she is Czeck.

Stop blaming Romanians for all bad things :-)

Big30

07-01-10, 02:25

There is no House Standard in NRW! Forbidden by law.

In the past 50/25/25/25 was the informal rule in NRW. Currently it is: 50/25/50/25/50 ... .

Theke at GT/LR/VV/PHG accept these informal rules. 50/50/50/50 is OK as long as girls inform you before making a room.

Friday I will see how Holland will beat Brasil. Yes in GT, the place to pay 60Euro/30m :)!

Big30

And Yes:

Sehr geehrte Herren,

die weiblichen Gäste sind ebenso selbständige Unternehmer wie die jeweils tätigen Masseure und bieten ihre Leistungen völlig eigenständig und auf eigene Rechnung an.

Die Zahlung der von den anwesenden Frauen in Anspruch genommenen Leistungen erfolgt ausschließlich an die jeweilige Dame Ihrer Wahl.

Insbesondere weisen wir darauf hin, dass mit dem Eintritt keine Leistungen der weiblichen Gäste bezahlt werden.

Charlie 123

07-01-10, 20:14

Made my debut at Living Room on Tuesday. What a disappointment!

I found the quality of the eye-candy to be a big let-down. I don't normally go for the scoring mechanisms that others use here, but I have to say that there were to my mind a severe paucity of 7's and 8's, and the vast majority booked a rating of 5 or lower in my book.

So much so that I couldn't find a single girl I wanted to fuck, and after the football I left.

Maybe I just turned up on a bad night, but I would rate this club some way below the other NWR places I've visited previously (Bernd's, Samya, GT).

Not a terribly helpful report I'm afraid, but I think I discovered an undervalued place at Dolce Vita later that evening - plz see report on that thread

Charlie

Akibono

07-02-10, 01:30

Henio

07-02-10, 14:32

...In the past 50/25/25/25 was the informal rule in NRW. Currently it is: 50/25/50/25/50 ... .
few weeks ago did 90 minutes with Olga at GT and 90 minutes with Erica at LR. Payed 100€ both times. No complaints. I recon I owe them 25€ each? Do you know when aprox. did the 50/25/50/25/50....become the "not_to_ be_enforced_by club_because_it_is_illegal" price "informal guidance" rule?

Big30

07-03-10, 02:09

few weeks ago did 90 minutes with Olga at GT and 90 minutes with Erica at LR. Payed 100€ both times. No complaints. I recon I owe them 25€ each? Do you know when aprox. did the 50/25/50/25/50....become the "not_to_ be_enforced_by club_because_it_is_illegal" price "informal guidance" rule?

No problem! You pay what the Girls asks. Next time beacause now they have it hard to earn money try to go for less money!
It is most certainly not illegal.

Kind regards,
B30

Henio

07-03-10, 04:25

No problem! You pay what the Girls asks. Next time beacause now they have it hard to earn money try to go for less money!
It is most certainly not illegal.

Kind regards,
B30
nah, I never negotiate, never ask the price and just rely on the house guide and pay by that. Has served me fine in the past. I get enough negotiating girls in other markets so when in Germany I kind of want to keep just paying whatever is the "informal_nonrestrictive_house_rule_that_is_not_really_rule_because_it_is_illegal_to_set_the_prices_by_the_house" price :-)

Big30

07-03-10, 05:06

nah, I never negotiate, never ask the price and just rely on the house guide and pay by that. Has served me fine in the past. I get enough negotiating girls in other markets so when in Germany I kind of want to keep just paying whatever is the "informal_nonrestrictive_house_rule_that_is_not_really_rule_because_it_is_illegal_to_set_the_prices_by_the_house" price :-)

OK! Great info, so you just rely on the house guide and pay by that? Please tell me more about this house guide info.

You consider this to be a legal or illegal rule? Please inform ISG members about this "house guide rule". I would appreciate it if you would share this rule with other members.

B30

Henio

07-03-10, 10:29

OK! Great info, so you just rely on the house guide and pay by that? Please tell me more about this house guide info.

You consider this to be a legal or illegal rule? Please inform ISG members about this "house guide rule". I would appreciate it if you would share this rule with other members.

B30 Yes, I do rely on the house rule. You have a problem with that? I don't care about the legality of the rule, there are lot of gray areas of this business. Set prices are one of the thing that many guys like about the FKKs, and most if not all FKK/sauna clubs in Germany have it weather you like it or not. According to you the house rule is:

....In the past 50/25/25/25 was the informal rule in NRW. Currently it is: 50/25/50/25/50 ... .

Theke at GT/LR/VV/PHG accept these informal rules. 50/50/50/50 is OK as long as girls inform you before making a room.
so I dont really understand where you are going with your question of legality or seemingly beeing annoyed by my question since you are the one giving the "house rule" info to start with. I have conflicting information right not and I am trying to get it confirmed so I don't have to practice the annoying negotiation up front or haggling at the locker after the session, and at the same time not short changing the girls.

Anyways, I am there next week. I'll just ask.

Big30

07-03-10, 11:05

Anyways, I am there next week. I'll just ask.

Just ask! You will ask all the girls or only ask at the theke? Goodluck! I am looking forward for your info.

B30

Toscana

07-03-10, 22:55

Just ask! You will ask all the girls or only ask at the theke? Goodluck! I am looking forward for your info.

B30Why the cantankerous tone in your last few posts? The pricing issue is valid, interesting to members, relevant on the forum and, fuck me, the Netherlands pissed all over Brazil! :-) :-)

GandJim

07-04-10, 04:15

Yes, I do rely on the house rule. ..... Set prices are one of the thing that many guys like about the FKKs, and most if not all FKK/sauna clubs in Germany have it ....
Fully agree with this.

Jim

Duralong

07-05-10, 11:58

Yes, I do rely on the house rule. ...
Anyways, I am there next week. I'll just ask.

Hi dudes. I checked this thread after several weeks and found this discussion on prices. This is in fact an issue, as this discussion proves.

I tend to agree with Henio and I follow a similar approach. I usually paid the standard house rates for my sessions (as I wrote in my reports), meaning for “standard rates” those that were explained to me the first time I visited the places, around 3 years ago.

Thus: 50+25+25+25… at GT, LR and PHG; 50+25+50+25… at YY, VV and Samya. Unless the girl tells me otherwise in advance, I assume this are the rates to apply.

This is still valid, I think, although in my latest tour I found the girl at the desk at GT more elusive. I asked if something had changed in the price structure and she just said “ask the girls”. I am curious to read the most recent findings from Henio in this field.

In any case, hitherto, I had many 1h sessions in every club, which I paid 75€. Sometimes the 60’ session ended in a CIM, which accounted for a 100, still a regular price. Once (nearly 2 years ago) I also brought the issue at the desk in GT (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=772014&postcount=670) because the girl insisted for charging me a 100, and the management told me I was right.
So, for 1h sessions I think the issue is clear. However I used to pay standard rates for even longer sessions.
I paid a 100€ for 90’ sessions at GT and LR, and 125€ at YY. 2hs sessions are rare, but I had a couple at YY, which I paid a regular 150€.

Most of the girls that I encountered give these rates for granted and are happy with that.
Leaving the girl happy (and me too) depends on how well I was able to connect with her. If we had a good time, it won’t make her much happier to give her a few bucks more; nevertheless I tipped a few of them in sign of recognition.

IMHO the 50+25+25+25… scheme penalizes too much the girl for sessions lasting >= 2hs, the 50+25+50+25… is more balanced, but penalizes 90’ sessions, thus a 50+30+30+30… should be perhaps better for every lasting, but none is using this scheme.

Finally, I tend to avoid girls who upsell themselves, as I experienced that paying more doesn’t necessarily mean to get more! This should be for you too. So I strongly encourage you to stick to standard rates and not contribute to inflation.

Capt Dan

07-05-10, 23:31

I was in GT a few weeks back (must write a trip report) and on at least one occasion the girl refused to stay in the room for less than 50 for the second half hour. I was in LivingRoom and VV too and the Euro 25 second half hour was not always accepted.

CD

Hi dudes. I checked this thread after several weeks and found this discussion on prices. This is in fact an issue, as this discussion proves.

I tend to agree with Henio and I follow a similar approach. I usually paid the standard house rates for my sessions (as I wrote in my reports), meaning for “standard rates” those that were explained to me the first time I visited the places, around 3 years ago.

Thus: 50+25+25+25… at GT, LR and PHG; 50+25+50+25… at YY, VV and Samya. Unless the girl tells me otherwise in advance, I assume this are the rates to apply.

This is still valid, I think, although in my latest tour I found the girl at the desk at GT more elusive. I asked if something had changed in the price structure and she just said “ask the girls”. I am curious to read the most recent findings from Henio in this field.

In any case, hitherto, I had many 1h sessions in every club, which I paid 75€. Sometimes the 60’ session ended in a CIM, which accounted for a 100, still a regular price. Once (nearly 2 years ago) I also brought the issue at the desk in GT (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=772014&postcount=670) because the girl insisted for charging me a 100, and the management told me I was right.
So, for 1h sessions I think the issue is clear. However I used to pay standard rates for even longer sessions.
I paid a 100€ for 90’ sessions at GT and LR, and 125€ at YY. 2hs sessions are rare, but I had a couple at YY, which I paid a regular 150€.

Most of the girls that I encountered give these rates for granted and are happy with that.
Leaving the girl happy (and me too) depends on how well I was able to connect with her. If we had a good time, it won’t make her much happier to give her a few bucks more; nevertheless I tipped a few of them in sign of recognition.

IMHO the 50+25+25+25… scheme penalizes too much the girl for sessions lasting >= 2hs, the 50+25+50+25… is more balanced, but penalizes 90’ sessions, thus a 50+30+30+30… should be perhaps better for every lasting, but none is using this scheme.

Finally, I tend to avoid girls who upsell themselves, as I experienced that paying more doesn’t necessarily mean to get more! This should be for you too. So I strongly encourage you to stick to standard rates and not contribute to inflation.

Eric Cartman

07-07-10, 00:45

This is a bit rushed b/c it's late as I write. Sorry.

Hit LR tonight around 7pm after a day trip to Ying Yang in Roermond, NL just over the boarder (see the Other FKK thread).

Weird fact: on our way back to Germany from Ying Yang to go to LR, we cross the border and are cruising along in our C-class Mercedes when out of nowhere we see flashing lights behind us on a white BMW. They pull us over and 2 plainclothes dudes walk up to the car and say "Police. Passport check. Give us your passports." I'm like, um, you look like a 30-something German in street clothes and I don't see a badge ... where is your badge? Confusion ensues in the translation. Finally I get him to show me an ID which looks like a photocopied laminated card. I'm like, well, here goes nothing ... we turn over our passports, and they tell us to drive ahead of them to the next freeway exit. We get there, they come up to the car again, ask how long we were in Holland (a few hours), ask how long we are in Germany (1 week), and then give us our passports back. Then he says "Do you have any Hashish or Marijuana?" I'm thinking to myself, um, why do you want some? ;) But we say "No, not at all." Then they let us go. Super odd.

Anyway, GPS takes us right to LR. Best part is the main street right before it is called "Siemenstrasse" -- had us cracking up ;)

LR is a smaller club that is like a private house almost, with a basement (has the sauna/showers/some rooms) and a smaller back yard with some sofas, table seating, and then a big tent with sofas where they were showing football/soccer.

Receptionist was smoking hot -- wish I could have taken her. She got this tall, thin, blonde Albanian (Ana?) to show us the club. My friend nailed her later and said her body was 100% awesome. Similar lockers to GT (same ownership).

On a first pass through the facilities, ended up with a small, thin, brunette named (I think) Livya from Romania. I haven't had much luck with Romanian girls giving good service. But she looked cute. I asked if she kissed and she said yes. Off to the room -- again, a bullshit not-deep BBBJ -- and again she said she can't take it deeper. OK eye contact during a few positions. But she didn't seem into it, so I just sort of ended things at the 20 min mark. Another Romanian lesson learned for 50 Eur. I think she was 21.

Ran into a cute, slightly chubby blonde girl with beautiful slavic / inuit eyes at the bar. She's Ella from Russia via Germany. 20 years old (today's theme -- sex with girls literally half my age!). Chubbier than I would like but nice natural tits, cute face, tongue stud, bubbly personality. Seemed fun. Said she didn't deep throat and that almost ended it, but she said she'd make up for it. Pretty decent hand-and-mouth BBBJ, lots of rubbing including holding my unit between her legs from behind while I cupped her breasts, and then straddling me and grinding on me before slapping on the condom for sex. Great eye contact and pretty good kissing. Fun times. 50 Eur. She actually hung out with me outside for about 20 mins after (I'd asked her if she'd do this before taking her to the room). Which was nice.

Chilled out for about an hour before trying to re-enter the fray. Met a smoking hot, hard-bodied girl with perfect tits and long jet-black hair and some tattoos. Said she only worked there 3 weeks and previously was in Spain. Spoke English, Spanish, and ...wait for it ... Romanian. So as hot as she was, I had to shy away. Tried approaching another girl, tall blonde with natural tits and slightly curly hair. German girl. She didn't seem interested in chatting with me so I moved on. My friend was ready to head out, so in the interest of a safe bet, I grabbed one more quick session with Ella. Pretty much the same as the first one, and really good. another 50 Eur well spent.

Bottom line -- I liked the clubby feel of LR. There were a lot of girls to guys (not many guys on a Tues night) and the quality ratio was high -- lots of fuckable hotties. It felt a little more like a Brazilian terma due to the smaller space, and the surplus of girls meaning they would actually talk to you and spend some time. I am getting a bit tired of the hit-and-miss Romanian chicks though.

Henio

07-07-10, 02:19

Big30

07-07-10, 03:20

According to info from the field, the house guide for pricing at LR is still 50+25+25+25 and all the girls I asked and/or sessioned with for the last couple of days follow the house rule. This I got from asking girls and then trying it out as well on several of them for the last couple of days.

That is great news! So you made a room with all girls in LR present the last months for at least more than 1.5 hours and paid them according to the house rules?
You made a room with Carla, Sophia, Peggy, Celina, Simona or even more with my best Girl Friend in LR Tricky??

Sorry Henio! I like some of your contributions to this board but but please do not lie!
I am 100 % sure the Girls I mentioned do not provide this 50/25/25/25/25/ service. So please provide us with a list of girls you met last week that still give this 50/25/25/25/25 service!

Actually many girls do! But my message is not all Girls do ... .

My only message is that in LR/PHG/GT/VV there is no house guiding for 50/25/25/25 prices.

Disclaimer: This board is a little to serious in my opinion. Remember there is more in life than Sauna/FKK-Clubs!

Chukar

07-07-10, 12:08

Big30,

Your Best Friend is Tricky ? I would have never guessed.

I too am a fan of Tricky even not the typical body type I would normally chose.

Basketcase

07-07-10, 20:42

You made a room with Carla, Sophia, Peggy, Celina, Simona or even more with my best Girl Friend in LR Tricky??

I am 100 % sure the Girls I mentioned do not provide this 50/25/25/25/25/ service. So please provide us with a list of girls you met last week that still give this 50/25/25/25/25 service!
Ralucca (ro) also charges 50/50/50/50 pricing. She does charge 25€ for CIM though which is nice. I do like FT with it.

Big30

07-07-10, 21:01

Big30,

Your Best Friend is Tricky ? I would have never guessed.

I too am a fan of Tricky even not the typical body type I would normally chose.

Hi Chukar,

I know her already since 2005. In the past made a few rooms with her, now when I am in LR she always wants to know from me how it is in the different clubs. Then we talk a lot and I look at her D-E duo in her front :).
So who is where etc. She is very friendly and I know she has a lot of fans.

Regards,
B30

Big30

07-07-10, 21:09

Ralucca (ro) also charges 50/50/50/50 pricing. She does charge 25€ for CIM though which is nice. I do like FT with it.

Hi BC,

Yes unfortunately some Girls even charge 50/50/50. Actually not only in LR but also in GT, PHG and VV.

The only point I wanted to make is that let us say for 3-4 years indeed we could say 50/25/25/25 could be considered as the house rule.
Now at least it can be called questionable to call this the house rule. But OK that is also a matter of definition.
Furthermore I hope Henio will understand I put some Irony in my message. My intention is never to upset someone!

The only thing that currently really matters is that Holland Sunday will play the final, against Spain it seems!

Regards,
B30

Charlie 123

07-07-10, 22:45

I was at LR last week. As reported here, I couldn't find any girls that I liked enough to session with them. However, when I paid my entrance fee I asked about the pricing structure and was told in no uncertain terms whatsoever that the cost was 50 Euros for the first 30 minutes and 25 Euros for every half-hour after that. The lady was quite specific about that.

Charlie

Henio

07-08-10, 04:34

That is great news! So you made a room with all girls in LR present the last months for at least more than 1.5 hours and paid them according to the house rules?
You made a room with Carla, Sophia, Peggy, Celina, Simona or even more with my best Girl Friend in LR Tricky??

Sorry Henio! I like some of your contributions to this board but but please do not lie!
I am 100 % sure the Girls I mentioned do not provide this 50/25/25/25/25/ service. So please provide us with a list of girls you met last week that still give this 50/25/25/25/25 service!

Actually many girls do! But my message is not all Girls do ... .

My only message is that in LR/PHG/GT/VV there is no house guiding for 50/25/25/25 prices.

Disclaimer: This board is a little to serious in my opinion. Remember there is more in life than Sauna/FKK-Clubs!
Can't really find any reason why I should lie. I am trying to give the best information I have to the board. I paid 50+25 to Carla last time I went with her, but that was in May. Have not done 90 minutes with her. I have not gone with the other girls you mention. Other girls sampled this week (and asked about 90 min) were Lily.br, Janeta.ro, Adina.ro and Andrea.ro. Did 90 minutes with Andrea and paid 100.

I wanted to know what the informal house rule is. The girls I asked all said it was 50+25+25+25. Of course I did not ask all of the girls in the club, dont be silly, I am trying to provide the best information I can based on my experience.

I do realize there are 50+50 and 50+25+50 (although I have never encounterd the 50+25+50 my self, but i know a few 50+50 in GT). My point is: What should one expect to pay if no price is discussed up front and my conclusion is 50+25+25.... my experience is my experience and yours is yours.

My advice to others would be: Ask about the price and if you do not ask and price is not discussed at all, pay according to 50+25+25....

btw: Andrea.ro is a great session, one of the better ones I have been with this year. A cups, slim body, rather short (about 160 cm), dark hair.

Sorry about the game next Sunday, but 2nd place is pretty ;-)

Hessen Bub

07-08-10, 09:20

Ralucca (ro) also charges 50/50/50/50 pricing. She does charge 25€ for CIM though which is nice. I do like FT with it.

She does. And on my last visit I did report this to the receptionist when checking out. She was very interested as the club is enforcing the 50/25 EUR pricing structure.

HB

Dedalus

07-08-10, 10:15

Sorry Henio! I like some of your contributions to this board but but please do not lie!
I am 100 % sure the Girls I mentioned do not provide this 50/25/25/25/25/ service. So please provide us with a list of girls you met last week that still give this 50/25/25/25/25 service!

Actually many girls do! But my message is not all Girls do ... .

My only message is that in LR/PHG/GT/VV there is no house guiding for 50/25/25/25 prices.

Disclaimer: This board is a little to serious in my opinion. Remember there is more in life than Sauna/FKK-Clubs!

Hey Big 30,

I know quite a few NRW girls who keep to the 50/25/25 rule. Also, I've heard Tatiana at GT explain (both in English and German) this pricing system to guests on a number of occasions, though I'll admit, the last time was several months ago.

I don't think anyone here is lying (interesting choice of words on your part there, btw) and I don't doubt the info that you have gathered either. I'm just saying that it is not difficult to find GT and LR girls who will still hold to the 50/25/25 plan and that as far as I know, the "house" hasn't changed the unofficial house prices. I agree that there are girls who ply their trade for 50/50/50 (I remember once a few years ago being asked by some personnel at GT to let them know if any girl tried to do this) but rarely will I do extended sessions with these girls.

Actually I'm a little surprised that, given Germany's neighboring country's penchant for tightness, some from that region would so easily accept such a price increase ;-)

Cheers,

Dedalus

Big30

07-08-10, 10:46

Sorry about the game next Sunday, but 2nd place is pretty ;-)

This is this the only part of your message I do not agree with :)!

@Dedalus

As said, I used some Irony in my message. I agree with what you say that "the "house" hasn't changed the unofficial house prices".
The majority of the girls I am certain stick with the 50/25/25 "unofficial_house_rule". Although ofcourse I do not have statistics to prove this.

Currently is a little confusing also for me. Clearly 50/50/50 is not accepted by the club. But if a girl charges 50/25/50 I really do not know whether this gives you the right to complain at the theke.

Even some of my Dutch Icebear friends come with conflicting info and they are almost every week in the clubs in NRW.
Pricing structure should be clear the moment you enter a club and should be no point of discussion realising that the girls are formally independent in the club and do not have contract with the club.

For example in FKK-Amnesia in every Room you will find a card where all prices for the different services are listed.

Pricing structure should be clear as it is in Hessen. Now it can be a discussion point with a girl or the theke when you are charged more than expected. That is not good. I think we can all agree on that.

Regards,
Big30

Zathrus

07-08-10, 11:36

Greetings Everyone,

I deleted this "report" because the text contained so many strange abbreviations, misspelled words and local slang that it was literally unreadable. It was so bad that the only way I can describe it was that it looked like English translated into Chinese, then translated back to English, with every third letter subsequently deleted.

Thanks,

Jackson

Dedalus

07-08-10, 13:41

This is this the only part of your message I do not agree with :)!

@Dedalus

As said, I used some Irony in my message. I agree with what you say that "the "house" hasn't changed the unofficial house prices".
The majority of the girls I am certain stick with the 50/25/25 "unofficial_house_rule". Although ofcourse I do not have statistics to prove this.

Currently is a little confusing also for me. Clearly 50/50/50 is not accepted by the club. But if a girl charges 50/25/50 I really do not know whether this gives you the right to complain at the theke.

Even some of my Dutch Icebear friends come with conflicting info and they are almost every week in the clubs in NRW.

Pricing structure should be clear the moment you enter a club and should be no point of discussion realising that the girls are formally independent in the club and do not have contract with the club.

For example in FKK-Amnesia in every Room you will find a card where all prices for the different services are listed.

Pricing structure should be clear as it is in Hessen. Now it can be a discussion point with a girl or the theke when you are charged more than expected. That is not good. I think we can all agree on that.

Regards,

Big30Agreed.

For the record, I personally consider the 75/25/25 price structure a tad low and maybe even bordering on degrading. There are only a handful of NRW girls that I do long, extended sessions with, and if it happens to be one of those 2 to 3 hour romps, then I pay a higher rate: usually 50/25.

As Toscana has mentioned, the price structure is a valid topic and needs to be discussed. A "Freier" has the right to pay (even overpay) what he wants to for a session, but I have a problem with certain girls taking advantage of uninformed tourists and the unclear nature of the pricing structure. Too many girls use this to scam an unsuspecting guy.

Carla (LR hammer body) seems to be fine with the 50/25/25 model.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Breadman

07-08-10, 15:30

Agreed.

For the record, I personally consider the 75/25/25 price structure a tad low and maybe even bordering on degrading. There are only a handful of NRW girls that I do long, extended sessions with, and if it happens to be one of those 2 to 3 hour romps, then I pay a higher rate: usually 50/25.My understanding of the pricing situation has always been 50 for the first 30 minutes, 25 for the next 30 minutes and then if you stay for another hour you fall back on this 50/25 rate. A 2 hour session would run you 150 euro's. A 3 hour session would be 225 euro's. Its never entered my mind that a girl would stay for multiple hours at 25 euro's for 30 minutes.

Now in places like Costa Rica, ive heard of girls doing an all nighter for around 75 euro's...giving the guy several goes at night and then in the morning when they wake up.

Henio

07-08-10, 15:47

....Now in places like Costa Rica, ive heard of girls doing an all nighter for around 75 euro's...giving the guy several goes at night and then in the morning when they wake up. ...and in Philippines you can do the same for 15-25 euros, in Madagscar even for less, and you can go to a flat rate club in Germany and have sex with 10-15 girls for a flat rate of 100-150 euros.

Since I have been visiting GT and LR it has been 50+25+25 as house standard, but it is best to ask up front if you wish to do a long session.

The only time I visited YY I was informed at the desk that it was 50+25+50+25

When I visited VV (long time ago) I was informed by the theke it was 50+25+25... but then one girl I sessioned with said it was 50+25+50+25

Then I know some 50/50 girls that provide 50/25 to some of their clients. Melissa and Romina come to mind

Confusing eh? Better just ask up front.

ps: there is one club in Spain I sometimes visit where the asking price is 30 minutes 60€, 45 minutes 100€ and 60 minutes are 120€. I have couple of times tried to get the girls to rationalize the math behind the 45 minute rate because it just does not make sense, but without result.

ok, enough on this as this is the LR thread so lets get some info on LR :-)

Eric Cartman

07-10-10, 01:29

Gents -

After some debate today about Palace (decided -- too many sharks per reports) and then World (decided again, too many sharks per reports), my buddy and I decided to drive up from Koln to Living Room. It's about 43KM and the drive at 5pm was a little slow from traffic. Much faster coming back at 12am ;)

Arrived with only 1 of the 2 discount return cards we'd gotten the other day, but the receptionist gave us both the discount. In the space of 3 days, LR had finished their 2nd shower area near the lockers which 3 days ago was sort of open rubble. Fucking hot today -- 30+ (maybe 35), especially in the bar, rooms, and even the garden. Why LR doesn't have air conditioning is a great unknown. Apparently the girls hate it b/c when it's this hot, the guys don't want to fuck, just get blown and HJs.

Anyway, we hung out a while in robes (fucking hot!) while we watched the assembled throngs eat. The BBQ was just going and the girls & punters were stuffing it down. There was the same stunning Romanian girl I'd seen the other day, with 6-inch platform heels, jet-black hair in a high ponytail, back & body tattoos ... but I knew she didn't speak much English or kiss, so I avoided. We spotted another had-to-be-Romanian girl, thin, tall, beautiful tits (small and perky), long dark hair loose, kind of looked like Taylor Rain (porn star). I spoke with her and her English was OK. But she doesn't kiss, or suck deep, so I didn't pull. I told her kissing was important, but she sort of shrugged lol. Think her name was Cynthia.

We ate some food around 6pm, and then around 6.30 I spotted a slim, dark-haired girl inside wearing a little leather mini skirt. Named Lori, I believe. Romanian, of course. She said she'd kiss and even "French" and that she'd try to suck it deep. I decided to take one for the team. In the room she was sufficient -- but not GFE, not that great kissing, not that great at BBBJ. She also conveniently "forgot the condom" which I took as a time-waster, but she came back pretty fast. Finished up and gave her the 50 Eur.

Then I went out to the garden to smoke a big old Partagas #2 Cuban cigar. While I'm sitting on the couch, this bigger black girl walks over, steps over my legs, trips a little (lol), and sits next to me. We'd seen her earlier. She's got short, straightened hair and is what we call Wesley Snipes black. Out of Africa black. Joseph Conrad Heart of Darkness black. Beautiful big pointy nipples on her tits. A little curvy, but a pretty face. Turns out her English is excellent, as she's from Ghana which apparently is a former British colony and English is spoken. Over the next hour, she hangs out and increasingly snuggles against me while telling her story -- owns a shop in Ghana run by her sister, married a Dutchman to get an EU passport (he got sex, she got papers, then they divorced), and has plied her trade in Rotterdam and other Dutch cities, with some time in Germany. She was pretty funny, joking with us about the other girls, bad clients she's had, making fun of other customers. Fun times. Her name, she said, was Paula.

As my friend knows, I have had a predilection in the past for the dark meat, and while I promised myself on this trip I'd stick to Eastern Europe, she was too tempting to pass up. I asked if she kissed deep, French, and she started making out with me GFE-style on the couch while saying "I hate kissing" (joking). In the room, she was sexy and committed. Amazing make-out session into another Class A deep-throat all-the-way-down BBBJ. I had her on her knees to start, but then she made me sit on the bed while she really went to town. She even licked my balls for about 5 minutes, sucking each one into her mouth and giving it loving care. The BBBJ went on for about 20 mins and I basically had to beg her to fuck me. She was so good on top that I blew into the condom inside her after some sitting and leaning-over cowgirl. By the way, the room was sweltering and we were 100% soaked in sweat. 50 Eur and 20 Eur tip (flame away) for being so awesome in the room and for having spent basically an hour hanging out with me before.

At this point I was pretty spent, so I hung out on a lounge-chair for a while. Things had started to cool down around 9pm as the sun went down. I ended up hanging out for a while waiting for a massage from 10.45-11.15. There were 2 masseuses, one dude (previously there) plus now a female -- so I got one from her. Wasn't as strong as I got at Bernd's, but ok for 25 Eur.

I was waiting to see Paula again but she seemed to have disappeared. It got to be 11.45 and we were having trouble spotting alternatives. There was another, slightly bigger girl with beautiful titties and long dark hair (wearing red fishnet leggings), but she looked Romanian and she ended up sitting with some enormously fat dude outside. Finally, I saw a chance to talk to a little blonde spinner wearing half-socks and just panties ... I'd seen her a bunch that day, and also saw her churn guys fast, but she looked hot -- thin, white, pierced nipples and tongue, short blonde hair pulled back. Called her over. Her name is Jenna and she's German. She's also a Mommy with her baby daddy's name tattooed on her left inside forearm. Wait, actually it says "Property of [Baby Daddy's Name]." Lol. Apparently he rents her out by the hour. WTF is wrong with these chicks?

Anyway she seemed fun and told a story about only taking a little coke today with a client (lol). I wanted to see that little firm ass naked (I couldn't believe she'd had a baby). So off we go after confirming she kisses and would try to go deep. Kissing was OK, a little DFK, and the BBBJ was short but ok. Basically it went like this. She goes to get a key and I set my chrono to mark 30 mins. In the room, she strips off her panties and jumps doggy-style on the bed, looking back at me and shaking her amazing ass. I watch a bit. Then she flips over, rubs her cooter, and motions for me to lick it. I decide instead to give her the "dedos magicos" (magic fingers). She seems to enjoy it but says she can only come from fucking, and she needs to come. Tells me she hasn't come yet today. I get her to suck me on her knees a bit and then in 69, staring at that great little ass & cooter. Then she condoms me up, and hops on top -- warm, wet, wild. But she says "I can only come from behind" .... so she wants me to nail her in doggy. I push her down onto her stomach in Prone Bone and go at it, biting her neck. She seems to come. Then some normal doggy while she looks back at me the whole time. By this point, she's urging me to come -- it's only been about 15 minutes. I'm like, fuck, she's a rusher like I thought. I strip off the condom and try to get her to suck me again -- but she grabs lotion and goes to an HJ. She says I can come on her body anywhere for free (no charge), but CIM is extra. She asks if I want to come on her ass or tits. I put her on her knees and let her HJ me a bit. She's urging me to come. I'm like "How much time do we have left?" -- knowing full well my chrono shows about 15 minutes. She demurs. I say, "About 10 minutes right?" And she acquiesces. But I'm a bit off my game due to the time checks. So I have her lean back and play with herself while I take matters in my own hand(s). She gets pretty into it, plunging her fingers in and out of her cooter while looking right at me. As I approach the end, she can tell and slides over to let me dump whatever remains of my jizz on her cute little pierced nipples. "Nothing came out" I say. "There's something," she says. "Something is better than nothing!" 50 Eur down.

All in all, she's a very cute, perky girl. But the rushing wasn't ideal. I wish I had had the stamina to really plow her, which would have been interesting. Anyway, when her Baby Daddy is licking her nips later tonight, I hope he gets a little taste of Cartman ;)

Tomorrow, debate on LR vs. Samya or both. How late is LR open on Sat?

-Cartman

PS My buddy had an amazing session at LR with an Italian girl whose name he can't remember, lol. 1 hour of beyond-GFE. Wish I could tell you more but he can't remember her name!

PPS What is it with all the Romanian chicks? So many of them look fabulous, but just sit there looking all pouty and like they're having no fun. And then they don't kiss or French, or go deep, and just generally are poor peformers. Why are the clubs letting so many Romanians in given this kind of baseline performance? Sure there are exceptions, but don't the owners know?

PPPS Seriously, if some of the girls would just circulate and approach new guys who enter, maybe with a smile or a joke, I think they'd get so much more business. This whole sit-around-and-wait for an approach thing is not conducive to business. Then at night, I see 4 Romanian girls sitting smoking at a table on the patio by themselves ... that's a way to avoid getting approached. Or girls sitting in the dark on lounge chairs in the garden where you can't even see them! Now sure maybe they've had their fill for the day. But you'd think, if the girls are there to work and they want business, they'd take some initiative to come up, smile, say hello, and give just enough rapport/intimacy to get guys to like you. Maybe not doing this is the NRW way, but it seems like missed opportunity to me.

Basketcase

07-10-10, 03:13

She's also a Mommy with her baby daddy's name tattooed on her left inside forearm. Wait, actually it says "Property of [Baby Daddy's Name]." Lol. Apparently he rents her out by the hour. WTF is wrong with these chicks?
Eric Cartman,

I noted that you have mentioned the tattooed name on the girl's back or neck in your Samya report. This is a common theme.

I am no expert and I only know what the girls tell me since it is the girls who I expect know it first hand. I think the description is that some girls have "given up themselves" to control. I am not saying your girl was one as I have no idea but I just noted the theme in your reports like you are pointing towards something there. I have no idea why some of these girls allow this to happen to them selves to have Direction. Then there is the bounties (abstandgeld) which are like business objectives that need to be achieved like one would have in any business.

Take what you see at face value but I guess what you are implying is do not be naive.

On another note it is interesting that you turned down Palace and World to stay in Nord Rhein area especially after your excellent times at Oase. No issue but I expect you need to get back to FFM for your flight out from FRA airport. These clubs are on the way out again. A nice round circuit.

GandJim

07-10-10, 03:45

This whole sit-around-and-wait for an approach thing is not conducive to business. Then at night, I see 4 Romanian girls sitting smoking at a table on the patio by themselves ... that's a way to avoid getting approached. Or girls sitting in the dark on lounge chairs in the garden where you can't even see them! Now sure maybe they've had their fill for the day. But you'd think, if the girls are there to work and they want business, they'd take some initiative to come up, smile, say hello, and give just enough rapport/intimacy to get guys to like you. Maybe not doing this is the NRW way, but it seems like missed opportunity to me.
You probably have read about last year's police crackdown on a Hungarian gang putting their girls at Oase. If not, check this link:

http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1034360&postcount=5810

Some of the girls are there just because their pimps put them there and they have to bring back a certain amount per day if they don't want a broken leg the next day. The pimps just give them a ridiculous amount for basic needs (or less) and keep all the rest, so once their daily quota is met, they have no incentive to make any effort to work more.

The Hungarian and Oase do not have the exclusivity of this scheme.

Jim

Henio

07-10-10, 05:06

....There was the same stunning Romanian girl I'd seen the other day, with 6-inch platform heels, jet-black hair in a high ponytail, back & body tattoos ... but I knew she didn't speak much English or kiss, so I avoided.... The description fits Carla. Had a good session with her few weeks back and a running mate had a good session with her very recently.

I had a session with Lori few weeks back and agree with you she is not the most passionate you can find, but I would rate her above club standard and the session was pretty good. I think she is one of the best looking girls in the club for my money. Has this kind of look of the girl next door cuter sister

LR is open until 3 am every night.

Dedalus

07-10-10, 18:43

The description fits Carla. Had a good session with her few weeks back and a running mate had a good session with her very recently.

Speaking of Karla, she's sitting across from me in the LR outdoor area as I type this. Lookin' good too!!!

Babe factor here is average to above average. I just arrived and it could be that many Gents are stuffing sessions in before the football match starts.

Henio, your lady is giving me the grins right now ;-))

Cheers,

Dedalus, live at LR

Dedalus

07-10-10, 21:56

Hey Gents,

What a way to spend a Saturday night! Get some sun. Grab a hot, fullsome Romanian (Karla), give her a good shagging, watch Germany win their football match, then enjoy the night air outside on a lounge chair with an Alt.

Could be worse.

BTW, I read somewhere that Karla doesn't kiss. Not so in my experience.

Lot of Romanian bashing goes on here, but I usally have good fortune with ladies from that land. To me it is always funny to read a report from someone who slams Romanians in general, but raves about the "Spanish" or "Italian" girl he went with.
Go figure.

Line up has a few stars. Nancy is here (for all you guys who have shot me PMs).
Andrea also. Have not seen this Lori, but I haven't ben looking that close.

Cheers,
Dedalus, hedonist

Henio

07-11-10, 00:29

Vito Corleone

07-11-10, 01:55

She also conveniently "forgot the condom" which I took as a time-waster, but she came back pretty fast.This might seem like a scam, but it does happen once in a while. Not only with Romanians trying to hustle, but with my regulars. They buy them in bulk of 10-15 & stuff it in their purses. Some use thier own or purchase from the front desk.

Tjohoo

07-17-10, 21:56

On the 26 of June a spent a day at Living Room. I arrived at 13:30 to something best described as "MILF-Messe"! A lot of, in my opinion, old and not attractive women resting in the sun on the backyard. Inside just a few younger females sitting bored stiff in the sofas.

I took a sunchair in the shadow and began watching people, resting and drinking water. I fell a sleep. At 16:00 I woke up and went on a hunt for a girl.

I found a familiar face at the bar, Erica. 21 years old, blond, 165 cm. We have talked on my other visits to LR, but never been to a room together. Outside the room Erica is very open, in the room she was a little more shy in my opinion. Erica has a beatiful body and very nice breasts, and we had a hot, sweaty session in a very warm room. There in something very sweet and tender about her that I like. I have read somewhere that she does anal, so I guess I will repeat with her on an other visit.

After dinner, some football and some sauna I started to look for a new women to session with. Unlike on my previous visits I this time had difficulties to find anyone that made me tick. Suddenly I spotted Danilella for the first time this day. We had a session in May that was very good. So I grabbed her again and we went to a room. Daniella is 20 years old, blond. 165 and from Roumania. She has a perfect body if you ask me, and a great personality. We had a fun and hot session, and she worked hard to make me "cum" She is "bubbly-happy-easy going". A favorite.

T

Nille Copenhagen

07-25-10, 18:57

Vito Corleone

07-26-10, 21:37

Normally LR has a great line up in the evening.

Are all the young and nice girls on holiday.

Can any one please inform on the line-up this weekend, I going to LR next weekend I hope I don't get disappointed.I was a little disappointed with both GT & LR's lineup. I thought Villa Vertigo had the best lineup.

Big30

07-27-10, 06:41

I was a little disappointed with both GT & LR's lineup. I thought Villa Vertigo had the best lineup.

When where you disappointed VC??? Last weekend in LR or GT? Why?

Big30

Vito Corleone

07-27-10, 23:19

When where you disappointed VC??? Last weekend in LR or GT? Why?

Big30Both lineups were kind of thin last weekend. Not as many stunners as past 7-10 visits. Many are most likely on vacation or whatever, but GT did not have as many milfs as previously reported. More than the norm, but mostly is pushing it. There were a couple of grandmother types that looked 60+.

I just expected a better lineup between Thurs - Sat. Lineup was still good enough to bang a couple of babes, but nothing that makes you do the Tiger Woods fist pump. Villa was off the hook on Sun & Mon. Go figure.

Simex

09-01-10, 23:46

LR was good quality for me - was there on 26 August - pumped a Romanian and Polish - my best ever FKK sessions have all been at LR. :-)

Both lineups were kind of thin last weekend. Not as many stunners as past 7-10 visits. Many are most likely on vacation or whatever, but GT did not have as many milfs as previously reported. More than the norm, but mostly is pushing it. There were a couple of grandmother types that looked 60+.

I just expected a better lineup between Thurs - Sat. Lineup was still good enough to bang a couple of babes, but nothing that makes you do the Tiger Woods fist pump. Villa was off the hook on Sun & Mon. Go figure.

Nille Copenhagen

09-02-10, 10:21

LR was good quality for me - was there on 26 August - pumped a Romanian and Polish - my best ever FKK sessions have all been at LR. :-)I love LR too.

Who was the Romanian and Polish girls you pumped ? Any names and description.

Vito Corleone

09-03-10, 21:24

LR was good quality for me. Was there on 26 August. Pumped a Romanian and Polish. My best ever FKK sessions have all been at LR.Lineup was pretty good last week & the club was rockin with babes dancing on the bar counters. Hooked up with FKK master Simex & 2 other senior members. I do not remember all the babes I banged, Polish Dana (search) was the highlight! She is only at LR on Wed & Sun, the rest of the week she's at Acapulco. Still an off the hook session.

Barbie. Romy. Tall & thin with a pretty face. Blonde with A cups. Fun personality made the session interesting. Service was above average, but she is really tight down there. She was really busy for 2 days straight so best to grab her when she is free.

Simex

09-04-10, 01:04

The Romanian is Aleasha or Alisha..very tall with dark hair and only 21, reminds me of Tom Cruise wife, but better looking.

Has this kind of stuck-up supermodel facial expression, but she's damn friendly once you start talking to her...

The Polish name = can't remember, but something along the line of Milena, also tall and only 23 with very tone body.

I love LR too.

Who was the Romanian and Polish girls you pumped ? Any names and description.

Big30

09-04-10, 02:25

The Romanian is Aleasha or Alisha..very tall with dark hair and only 21, reminds me of Tom Cruise wife, but better looking.

Her Name is Alessia. The name of the Polish Girl yes indeed I think it was Milena.

B30

Markthomas1950

09-21-10, 21:41

Hi all,

I will be at the party on October 16 at Living Room.

Anyone else going?

Jimmy22

09-23-10, 04:47

Nille Copenhagen

09-23-10, 10:43

All,

I will be in Dusseldorf next week and need help on the best way to get to the Living Room. I'm guessing by taxi (how much)? I will be in town next Monday.

Also trying to decide between Living or Dolce Vita? Any input?

Where would by best shot be at getting some good old fashioned anal? Any ladies in particular?

JimHi Jim,

I would say the line up is better in LR at night. DV has better wellness options.

Taxi from DUS airport to LR about 30€

Ed Setra

09-24-10, 17:56

All,

I will be in Dusseldorf next week and need help on the best way to get to the Living Room. I'm guessing by taxi (how much)? I will be in town next Monday.

Also trying to decide between Living or Dolce Vita? Any input?

Where would by best shot be at getting some good old fashioned anal? Any ladies in particular?

Jim
Both are easily accessible by public transport from Dusseldorf, or take a taxi as said below. Full details of address and access on their websites or on this fine forum if you do a search and read some of the reports.

http://www.city-fkk.de

http://www.fkk-livingroom.de/

Simex

09-26-10, 00:20

not been to DV - but I know for sure LV line-up very good....then again it's Monday evening...so tricky to comment.

Both are easily accessible by public transport from Dusseldorf, or take a taxi as said below. Full details of address and access on their websites or on this fine forum if you do a search and read some of the reports.

http://www.city-fkk.de

http://www.fkk-livingroom.de/

Simex

09-26-10, 13:07

Gents,

I appreciate this is the wrong thread, but I have never been to Happy Garden and I'll be in the dusseldorf area next week - so having a tough call on whether to do VV or Happy Garden (http://www.planet-happy-garden.info/)

I know for sure VV lineup decent and the a place is good to chill out on Saturday. What's PHG Saturday lineup like and the faciities any good?

Thanks in advance for helping.

S

Big30

10-02-10, 02:41

Hi all,

I will be at the party on October 16 at Living Room.

Anyone else going?

I will be there!

Saturday October 16 in LR there will be a Party because the Dutch Icebearforum exists 5 years.
Entrance 40 Euro! But please note this registration site.
http://www.ijsberenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22651&page=4

Kind regards,
B30

Big30

10-02-10, 02:58

Gents, What's PHG Saturday lineup like and the faciities any good?

Thanks in advance for helping.

S

No Kino or Jacuzzi in PHG.

But a very relaxed atmosphere. About 40-50 CDL's. Best food in NRW. For me the perfect place to chill out on a Saturday or any other day in the week!

B30

Markthomas1950

10-02-10, 09:44

I will be there!

Saturday October 16 in LR there will be a Party because the Dutch Icebearforum exists 5 years.
Entrance 40 Euro! But please note this registration site.
http://www.ijsberenforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22651&page=4

Kind regards,

B30Hi Big30,

Thanks for the link. Reading back, I have always enjoyed your posts and sense of perverse humour.

I have 7 cards that each give me 10 euro discounted entrance to Living Room and just one card that gives me a 5 euro discount on the Living Room entrance. Is that how you get to 40 euro entrance from the original 50 euro?

I may make a detour to Villa Vertigo during that weekend as well as I have a 10 euro off the entrance fee plus a free massage voucher valid to 31 December 2010. I printed that one off the internet from a Spanish language site using a link that I got.

Nille Copenhagen

10-02-10, 20:19

Hi Big30,

Thanks for the link. Reading back, I have always enjoyed your posts and sense of perverse humour.

I have 7 cards that each give me 10 euro discounted entrance to Living Room and just one card that gives me a 5 euro discount on the Living Room entrance. Is that how you get to 40 euro entrance from the original 50 euro?

I may make a detour to Villa Vertigo during that weekend as well as I have a 10 euro off the entrance fee plus a free massage voucher valid to 31 December 2010. I printed that one off the internet from a Spanish language site using a link that I got.Hi Markthomas1950,

How how do you get the 10€ discount card, I was in LR for 3 days this week and I only got the 5€ discount card ?

Nille

Ladies Man69

10-03-10, 14:15

No Kino or Jacuzzi in PHG.

But a very relaxed atmosphere. About 40-50 CDL's. Best food in NRW. For me the perfect place to chill out on a Saturday or any other day in the week!

B30Hi big 30,

My road trip 2 fkks in NRW were so good I wanted 2 live there

Been 2 LR twice Saturday night and Monday night.

On Saturday round 50 girls and so many men, had just one session with a morrocan girl, I'd give her a 7/10 in all criterias

Sunday we went 2 PSR great facility the best I've ever been 2, but the line up didn't match the place food was so nice indoor pool saunas and jacuzzi, didn't have any sessions that day noone clicked as the women varies from average 2 hideous. They were all warm and nice lots of action happening including an old guy banging a girl in the jacuzzi.

Its a shame that a place like that has no talents or very few 2 be more accurate.

Monday we went 2 villa vertigo at 4pm we stayed till 10pm "after an unsuccesful try 2 enter GT" wrote on it in the GT forum.

Had 3 sessions:

1) 40 minutes with Romanian slim girl excellent body small breast ut all nice, would give her a 6/10 in services but she was alright.

2) 2 sessions with Romanian in her 30"s name wooooowwwww GFE, pse, all what a man wants and more

A- 1 hr session

B- 1 hr and a half. Super I would give her a 9.

We left 2 my fav place LR, and had a great surprise, lineup round 40 and very few guys ratio was like 1:3. At least 10 were stunners "IMHO" and 20 varies from 7 to 8. 5.

Was so exhausted but couldn't leave without tasting the goods.

A Romanian girl round 22 oh my god most beautiful girl I ever been with breathtaking took 30 minute session a 9/10 easily maybe more but I was wasted I am 40 yrs of age so I was done

All in all 3 great days only dissapointment is GT as its the second time we werent able 2 get in with no specific reason 2 my mind but race as we are egyptians.

Thanks 2 big 30, nille copenhagen and others who helped me a lot

Big30

10-04-10, 00:01

Hi Big30,

I have 7 cards that each give me 10 euro discounted entrance to Living Room and just one card that gives me a 5 euro discount on the Living Room entrance. Is that how you get to 40 euro entrance from the original 50 euro?

Hi Mt1950,

No that is not what I mean! For this party you get a 10 Euro discount if you register yourself on the meeting point of the Icebearforum.

Your nick will then be on a list at the theke of LR and maybe (not sure in this case) you will also receive an invitation by IM. But it is sufficient your nick is on the list on order to get the discount. But if you plan to be at LR October 16, let me know and your name will be on the list.

Kind regards,
B30

Markthomas1950

10-04-10, 22:43

Hi Markthomas1950,

How how do you get the 10€ discount card, I was in LR for 3 days this week and I only got the 5€ discount card ?

NilleHi Nille,

I was given the seven 10€ discount cards by the Thekefraus at Golden Time. I guess they were inducing me to go to Living Room instead of Golden Time. I got the single 5€ discount card on the way out by the very pretty and busty blond Thekefrau at Living Room. I would love to fuck her.

If you go from Golden Time to Living Room and ask for a pass for the same day then you receive 25€ discount entry. The same goes for the other way going from Living Room to Golden Time. I prefer to go from Golden Time to Living Room since Living Room has a later closing time and so I can extend the party to 3am.

Markthomas1950

10-04-10, 22:47

Hi Mt1950,

No that is not what I mean! For this party you get a 10 Euro discount if you register yourself on the meeting point of the Icebearforum.

Your nick will then be on a list at the theke of LR and maybe (not sure in this case) you will also receive an invitation by IM. But it is sufficient your nick is on the list on order to get the discount. But if you plan to be at LR October 16, let me know and your name will be on the list.

Kind regards,

B30Hi Big30

I get it now. Sorry I am a bit thick understanding what you meant. Now may I ask do I have to register on the Icebearforum to be allowed in or is that only for the 10€ discount?

I already have a stack of 10€ discount cards for Living Room and so do you know if they are valid for the party day on October 16 or do the 10€ discount card only work on the non party days?

It does sound like it will be a swell party. I suppose I should get there early to avoid the crowds and the queues for the room. I may end up doing my sessions in the cinema. LOL.

Kind regards

Mark Thomas

Markthomas1950

10-04-10, 22:53

My road trip 2 fkks in NRW were so good I wanted 2 live there

Been 2 LR twice Saturday night and Monday night.

On Saturday round 50 girls and so many men, had just one session with a morrocan girl, I'd give her a 7/10 in all criterias

We left 2 my fav place LR, and had a great surprise, lineup round 40 and very few guys ratio was like 1:3. At least 10 were stunners "IMHO" and 20 varies from 7 to 8. 5.

Was so exhausted but couldn't leave without tasting the goods.

A Romanian girl round 22 oh my god most beautiful girl I ever been with breathtaking took 30 minute session a 9/10 easily maybe more but I was wasted I am 40 yrs of age so I was done

Hi Ladies Man69,

Cheers for the report. I am glad that you enjoyed yourself immensely at 40 years of age.

I am just wondering whether you are just being a gentleman and not divulging the names of any of the girls that you sessioned with since a gentleman does not tell stories?

If not, would be good if you gave some names to the Morrocan and Romanian girl that you took to the room at Living Room.

Thanks for sharing

Ladies Man69

10-05-10, 10:20

Hi Ladies Man69,

Cheers for the report. I am glad that you enjoyed yourself immensely at 40 years of age.

I am just wondering whether you are just being a gentleman and not divulging the names of any of the girls that you sessioned with since a gentleman does not tell stories?

If not, would be good if you gave some names to the Morrocan and Romanian girl that you took to the room at Living Room.

Thanks for sharingHi Markthomas,

Of course I didn't look at it this way at all, its just I was a bit drunk, hence I forget names 2 seconds after they say it.

This forum to me is the most important thing as I feel that there is always collective efforts to get better service.

Morrocan girl,

Tall, very funny, brunette with nice body enhanced boobs but not bad at all. Round 29 or early 30's. She said her name ofcourse.

Romanian girl

Simply the best looking girl in the place"no opinions" we were six guys we all agreed on it.

Cheers mate.

LM69

Nille Copenhagen

10-05-10, 14:50

Hi Nille,

I was given the seven 10€ discount cards by the Thekefraus at Golden Time. I guess they were inducing me to go to Living Room instead of Golden Time. I got the single 5€ discount card on the way out by the very pretty and busty blond Thekefrau at Living Room. I would love to fuck her.

If you go from Golden Time to Living Room and ask for a pass for the same day then you receive 25€ discount entry. The same goes for the other way going from Living Room to Golden Time. I prefer to go from Golden Time to Living Room since Living Room has a later closing time and so I can extend the party to 3am.Hi Markthomas1950,

I know the 25€ discount deal when changing club on the same day, I also go to GT first and in the evening move to LR.

I still wondering how you got the 10€ card from GT, I've been there many times but only get 5€ cards for GT, do you need to pull any trick to get the 10€ cards, and you got 7 cards how did you do it?

Nille

Markthomas1950

10-05-10, 21:19

Hi Markthomas1950,

I know the 25€ discount deal when changing club on the same day, I also go to GT first and in the evening move to LR.

I still wondering how you got the 10€ card from GT, I've been there many times but only get 5€ cards for GT, do you need to pull any trick to get the 10€ cards, and you got 7 cards how did you do it?

NilleHi Nille Copenhagen,

That is good you know about the reciprocal deal between the sister clubs of Living Room and Golden Time whereby you receive a 25€ discount card for same day entry at the other club. Makes for a nice 75€ expended to sample two clubs' line ups.

I got the 10€ discount cards in the european summer time. Golden Time were handing them out and I happen to be at Golden Time regular at the time due to being located there. So I just collected them. They are quite nice cards, made of plastic and have pictures of topless pretty girls. There is a Living Room logo, address, and a picture of the building and garden on them and there is a note for 10€ on it as well. I dare not carry them in my wallet lest it accidentally falls out when at the shops or with friends and they wonder what the card is for. LOL.

So no tricks. It was just a limited offer I believe. Anyone could have got them. I would like to think Tatiana likes me but I think it is repeat custom that the management are after.

Markthomas1950

10-05-10, 21:29

Hi Markthomas,

Of course I didn't look at it this way at all, its just I was a bit drunk, hence I forget names 2 seconds after they say it.

This forum to me is the most important thing as I feel that there is always collective efforts to get better service.

Morrocan girl,

Tall, very funny, brunette with nice body enhanced boobs but not bad at all. Round 29 or early 30's. She said her name ofcourse.

Romanian girl

Simply the best looking girl in the place"no opinions" we were six guys we all agreed on it.

Cheers mate.

LM69Hi Ladies Man69,

So you are saying that you are not a gentleman? LOL.

Also you are forgetful when drunk. Blame the drink. LOL.

Okay, thanks for the descriptions of the Morrocan and Romanian girl. Only caveat that I have is that one man's definition of best looking differs to other men's definition of best looking.

I have seen some of the girls that guys rave about on this forum and I think that she is nothing to write home about. On the other hand, I accept that the girls that I regularly repeat with and think in my opinion is the best looking girl in the club are probably considered dogs or horse faced by other guys. They even tell me that to my face. But it matters not to me since the girls I like to fuck are beautiful to me. That is all that matters.

Big30

10-06-10, 01:18

Hi Big30

I get it now. Sorry I am a bit thick understanding what you meant. Now may I ask do I have to register on the Icebearforum to be allowed in or is that only for the 10€ discount?

I already have a stack of 10€ discount cards for Living Room and so do you know if they are valid for the party day on October 16 or do the 10€ discount card only work on the non party days?

It does sound like it will be a swell party. I suppose I should get there early to avoid the crowds and the queues for the room. I may end up doing my sessions in the cinema. LOL.

Kind regards

Mark Thomas

Hi MT,

- Everyone is allowed to enter LR on that day. It is just that at that day the Icebearforum will have its 5 year existence Party. If you register we know how much Icebears we can expect and you will be put on the list to get the 10 euro discount. But your name is now already on the list!

- The 5/10 euro discount is valid but not in Combination with the 10 euro party discount.

- You may expect that day LR will be a little crowded.

Kind regards,
B30

F Nature

10-06-10, 15:03

I've been to Living Room only once, about a year ago.

I wasn't that impressed really, the club didn't become a favourite for me.

The place didn't look as nice and elegant IRL as it does on the homepage.

Barbecue was good and free beer is included, which was nice of course, although you're not there to get drunk.

Most of the girls had way too much clothes on, they didn't even wear bikinis but dresses, LOL.

In the evening the club almost resembled a regular nightclub with very loud music and lot of people just hanging by the bar.

To me all this was just boring.

Simex

10-07-10, 00:12

Just got back from LR last weekend - I believe the best looking ROM girl with the best body has to be Kasey (she told me Aleasha last time)

She reminds me of Jenni Lee (US porn star - but Kasey has much better racks and body) http://www.porn-star.com/jennylee/08.html

Hi Markthomas,

Of course I didn't look at it this way at all, its just I was a bit drunk, hence I forget names 2 seconds after they say it.

This forum to me is the most important thing as I feel that there is always collective efforts to get better service.

Morrocan girl,

Tall, very funny, brunette with nice body enhanced boobs but not bad at all. Round 29 or early 30's. She said her name ofcourse.

Romanian girl

Simply the best looking girl in the place"no opinions" we were six guys we all agreed on it.

Cheers mate.

LM69

Simex

10-07-10, 00:15

Agree LR facilities and layout a complete dump compared to their sister GT est.

And their line-up can be a hit and miss too.

I've been to Living Room only once, about a year ago.

I wasn't that impressed really, the club didn't become a favourite for me.

The place didn't look as nice and elegant IRL as it does on the homepage.

Barbecue was good and free beer is included, which was nice of course, although you're not there to get drunk.

Most of the girls had way too much clothes on, they didn't even wear bikinis but dresses, LOL.

In the evening the club almost resembled a regular nightclub with very loud music and lot of people just hanging by the bar.

To me all this was just boring.

Mike De H

10-07-10, 14:58

It is a bit unfair of me to dump this on GT because its an embellishment of something that happened to me at world. Nevertheless, I thought if I was to Lampoon the other establishments then GT should come in for some lightheatred stick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=491PtJoBSqU

The way I see it, I could have been crueller, having people being refused at reception for instance. LOL.

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Wrong thread sorry

Markthomas1950

10-07-10, 21:29

Hi MT,

- Everyone is allowed to enter LR on that day. It is just that at that day the Icebearforum will have its 5 year existence Party. If you register we know how much Icebears we can expect and you will be put on the list to get the 10 euro discount. But your name is now already on the list!

- The 5/10 euro discount is valid but not in Combination with the 10 euro party discount.

- You may expect that day LR will be a little crowded.

Kind regards,

B30Hi Big30,

Thank you for the clarification on who is and who is not allowed to go to the 5 year Ijsberen party on October 16. I did think it was open entry but you had me second guessing myself when you posted a link that there was an invitation list.

I am so grateful that my name is now on the list. So I just go in and say my name is Mark Thomas to the pretty and buxom blond Thekefrau and I get into the club for 40€ being 10€ discount since my name is on the invite list. Man, that blond Thekfrau has great tits. She shows them off to great effect in tight fitting tops or enclosing bras that accentuate her cleavage. She mesmerizes my senses.

Yes, I am expecting LR to be a little crowded so yes I will try to get in early do my sessions with the girls that I want to fuck thensay hello to all the Ijsberen and then make my excuses and leave.

Cheers

Big30

10-10-10, 03:01

Hi Big30,

Thank you for the clarification on who is and who is not allowed to go to the 5 year Ijsberen party on October 16.

I am so grateful that my name is now on the list.

Yes, I am expecting LR to be a little crowded so yes I will try to get in early do my sessions with the girls that I want to fuck then say hello to all the Ijsberen and then make my excuses and leave.

Cheers

Hi MT1950,

Your name is on the list! So do not worry, be happy October 16. Do not leave to early! We have a Tombola with some very nice prices, some games, a quiz and a lot of prices that you can win :)!

Stay there have some fun in LR and meet some of the IJsberen and yes it will be a little crowded there.

Cheers B30.

Ladies Man69

10-10-10, 13:57

Member #4243

10-17-10, 22:10

Germano123

10-18-10, 06:27

Be scared. I have seen so many strangers in the LR, and also egyptians. So can go there and have a nice day there.

I will go in the next time also, when do you want to come?

I live here and maybe can give you a helping hand, maybe showing you around, also going to Golden Time, that is also not so far from here and has nicer rooms and possibilities.

Just ask me.

Local Visitor

10-18-10, 09:58

Ladies Man69

10-18-10, 13:31

I am thinking of doing a nrw FKK tour, having done the Hessen clubs. I know that GT can block entry to foreigners based on race, I also know that at samya this is not a problem. Can someone please confirm to me the poilicy at LR and if forum members have seen customers of diffferent cultures at LR? I am of egyptian origin.

ThanksHi Mohab,

I am egyptian been to Living Room at least 6 times, last time we were 6 egyptiansso you won't find a problem believe me

People are so friendly.

Cheers mate.

Member #4243

10-22-10, 01:56

Is LR nearer to Dusseldorf or Colgone and what would the cost from these cities.

Be in a taxi?

Thanks,

Mohab

Basketcase

10-23-10, 00:24

Is LR nearer to Dusseldorf or Colgone and what would the cost from these cities.

Be in a taxi?

Thanks,

Mohab
Mohab,

Get a map out and take a look please.

Breadman

10-23-10, 03:23

Is LR nearer to Dusseldorf or Colgone and what would the cost from these cities.

Be in a taxi?

Thanks,

Mohab

Mohab, here are all the answers you need as to club locations...ask no more. please.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=112127550579963948884.00045d515d0f87adf527e&z=5

Bobo.fr

10-23-10, 18:42

Is LR nearer to Dusseldorf or Colgone and what would the cost from these cities.

Be in a taxi?

Thanks,

Mohab

1) From Dusseldorf train station , taxi cost me , if I remember well, around 35 Euros. By the way, the taxi driver sold me his "VIP card" (just a free entrance card that clubs offer to taxi drivers, don't expect for special VIP services) for 40 Euros.

2) According to the French written forum ( http://www.youppie.net/main/index.php?pageid=livingroom ) : there is the S-bahn S28 from Dusseldorf train station to "Living Room" ("Ikea Kaarst" stop).

3) From Koln/Cologne, I think that taxi fees will be more expensive.

Duralong

10-31-10, 19:04

Prev:

My tour starts at LR, which gave me wonderful Mondays in the past. No way this time. None of my favorites of the past are present and none of the girls present gives me that sparkle that I need.
The most attractive girl, this time again, is one of those behind the counter! Too bad that, instead of being a provider, she is a student, earning money working here a couple of days a week, and of course she has a boyfriend, who doesn't come to these places. I trust her, I wouldn't need either, if I were in his feet :)

In my original plan I intended to pay another visit to LR, but after this I changed the plan. LR can be good if you are lucky, but otherwise, especially if the whether is bad, you may don't know where to place yourself, and it's difficult to spend an entire day there.

Next: [URL=]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1087070&postcount=98 (]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1087067&postcount=4996[/URL)

Iseeu

11-01-10, 11:03

Hi

Here are my ratings for Living Room:

Girls 20/25

Selection 11/15

Service 14/25

Food 3/8

Facilities 5/10

Cleanliness 5/8

Staff 4/5

Accessibility 3/4

Total – 65/100

Member #4243

11-06-10, 06:59

Are the girls here fully nude as in the Hessen clubs?

Thanks,

Mohab

Markthomas1950

11-06-10, 15:47

Are the girls here fully nude as in the Hessen clubs?

Thanks,

MohabHay Mo,

Living Room at times feels like you are in someone's Living Room. It is not a big club on the size of the land area at Golden Time. Mores the pity. I mean once you enter the bar area there is the Living Room, off to another hall way is a couple of rooms and then access to a manicured back garden with some loungers, outdoor style tables and chairs. The ground level has the changing rooms, a jacuzzi and some more rooms to fuck in.

Some girls will go topless at Living save for a small slip around to cover their twats. Girls are happy to roam naked if need be but this is more rare than the norm - like when running between rooms or fucking in the cinema. Miosost times the lady love friends will be in some type of attire. As we reach the colder months of the northern year we will see more clothing being worn.

Better bet for naked lady love friends is Bernds. That Bernds club comes recommended. Read that thread for the glowing reviews of the nubile women that fuck for money there.

Nille Copenhagen

11-06-10, 16:33

Are the girls here fully nude as in the Hessen clubs?

Thanks,

MohabNope they are not nude, some are topless.

None of the NRW clubs expect Bernds, where the ladies are totally nude.

Have you been able to visit GT or any club yet?

Nille

Akibono

11-06-10, 18:34

Are the girls here fully nude as in the Hessen clubs?

Thanks,

Mohab53 questions zero reports.

Member #4243

11-06-10, 20:03

Again, please see my response under Samya thread where all is explained.

Big30

11-07-10, 02:31

Are the girls here fully nude as in the Hessen clubs?

Thanks,

Mohab

Dear Mohab,

This is to inform you that since August 2010 the girls in LR wear the so called Burka dress.
Actually this is now true for all clubs in NRW (Partytreffs and Flatrate Clubs excluded).
It is a new law in NRW. Just returned from Happy and guess what? -> Also in Happy the Burka Dress.

Viel Spass noch und Tschüss!

Kind Regards,
Big30

Member #4243

11-07-10, 18:47

Please make sure that no members of the french secret service infiltrate any of the NRW FKK clubs as I have just heard this type of dress is no longer legal in the french republic of france as it was recently banned by the govt there, and I have a feeling that this law may be enforceable beyond the intl boundaries of the republique francais. Be on guard. [Non-English text deleted by Admin].

Mohab!

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Nille Copenhagen

11-07-10, 23:11

Basketcase

11-07-10, 23:15

Dear Mohab,

This is to inform you that since August 2010 the girls in LR wear the so called Burka dress.
Actually this is now true for all clubs in NRW (Partytreffs and Flatrate Clubs excluded).
It is a new law in NRW. Just returned from Happy and guess what? -> Also in Happy the Burka Dress.

Viel Spass noch und Tschüss!

Kind Regards,
Big30
Hi Big30,

Thanks for the update that the Burka is the standard dress for all the girls at Living Room and across all the sex clubs in NRW save partytreffs and flat rate clubs. I guess I will not be heading NRW way for a while and staying in Hesse where last I saw it was FKK naked. Yay! I hope that the Burka dress code does not reach Hessen, Badem Wurtemberg, OWL, Berlin and Bayern.

Sorry, to be honest, I do not find the Burka that sexy. Sorry. I would be very sad if the Burka came to pass.

Basketcase

11-07-10, 23:21

Please make sure that no members of the french secret service infiltrate any of the NRW FKK clubs as I have just heard this type of dress is no longer legal in the french republic of france as it was recently banned by the govt there, and I have a feeling that this law may be enforceable beyond the intl boundaries of the republique francais. Be on guard.

Mohab!Hi Mohab,

Is it true that the Burka banning law is enforceable beyond the boundaries of France? Knowing the powers of the European Union it is not beyond the realms of reality that the laws enacted can have effect for French nationals everywhere. I know there is a sizeable French population in the UK centred on London especially in the Kensington and Chelsea area. Where did you read or find that out from?

It is like Switzerland banning the Minarets. EEEKKK...

Member #4243

11-08-10, 01:30

Hi,

No obviously it is just my attempt at a joke, I know no french people and being of egyptian parents I can categorically tell you that arab men are the most girl obsessed in the world LOL!

Ortos

11-08-10, 17:53

Big30

11-08-10, 17:59

Cleaning through my wallet --I only use it when I travel to Germany, btw-- I discovered that I have two "VIP" cards for visiting Living Room: one for 10E off the entry price; and one for 5E.

Question: Is it possible (or polite) to use both cards in tandem for a combined 15E discount on the Eintritt? or must one use them separately during two independent visits? Just wondering...

Thanks,

O

They cannot be used combined. Would be nice if this was true. Just collect 10 5E Vip Cards any the entrance would be free.

B30

Ortos

11-08-10, 20:08

They cannot be used combined. Would be nice if this was true. Just collect 10 5E Vip Cards any the entrance would be free.

B30

Thanks, Mr Big, for confirming what I had suspected.

Following on from that, the next natural progression:

If one arrives with the 25E entry pass having just left GT, can one use one of VIP cards for an even further reduction in Eintritt? If, coming from GT can I hand over the 10E VIP discount card together with the 25E entry card from GT and end with only paying 15E? Please don't think me too cheap, because I ask this question in the true tradition of a Nord-Nederlander....:)

O

Big30

11-08-10, 22:54

If one arrives with the 25E entry pass having just left GT, can one use one of VIP cards for an even further reduction in Eintritt? If, coming from GT can I hand over the 10E VIP discount card together with the 25E entry card from GT and end with only paying 15E? Please don't think me too cheap, because I ask this question in the true tradition of a Nord-Nederlander....:)

O

Hello O,

Again I have to confirm that also in this case discounts do not ad. Believe me, if so, I would have known as you will understand being a Nederlander :)!

Mr. Big

Breadman

11-11-10, 21:49

Cleaning through my wallet --I only use it when I travel to Germany, btw-- I discovered that I have two "VIP" cards for visiting Living Room: one for 10E off the entry price; and one for 5E.

Question: Is it possible (or polite) to use both cards in tandem for a combined 15E discount on the Eintritt? or must one use them separately during two independent visits? Just wondering...

Thanks,

O

They used to have stacks of those cards sitting out for free when they first opened...i have about 40 that would add up to 4 free entrance fee's. Id be willing to sell these cards for .50 on the euro.

Member #4243

11-29-10, 15:46

I would like to know if girls at Lr Kiss by standard, or do they charge? Also regarding sessions is it 75/hr? And how much time does a 100 get you then? I would need an accurate response if possible to help me draw up a budget for my trip. Finally is the range at girls at lr similar to samya for looks, beauty etc thanks mohab. To double check it is about 30min by cab from Dusseldorf for 40euros? I do not drive and all info is very valuable to me.

Thanks,

Mohab

Nille Copenhagen

11-29-10, 18:43

I would like to know if girls at Lr Kiss by standard, or do they charge?

Thanks,

MohabHey man,

My answer goes for your question at Samya too.

LR and Samya girls do kiss if they like you and it costs nada.

I'll go for Samya, if I had to choose between LR and Sam. larger club more fun, lively atmosphere.
There are some stunners at both clubs. The girls are not fully nude.

Going price is 75/H, some girls charge 100/H so ask her first.

Taxi from Dus-LR is 41€

Nille

Ableyone

11-30-10, 00:23

To double check it is about 30min by cab from Dusseldorf for 40euros? I do not drive and all info is very valuable to me.If you don't mind taking the train then the S28 from Dusseldorf Hbf to Kaarst Ikea costs 4. 50 Euro and takes 25 Minutes. LR is then just a 3 minute walk from the station.

Or Stay at the ISA hotel 1 minute walk from LR from around 40 Euro a night.

Nille Copenhagen

11-30-10, 09:39

If you don't mind taking the train then the S28 from Dusseldorf Hbf to Kaarst Ikea costs 4. 50 Euro and takes 25 Minutes. LR is then just a 3 minute walk from the station.

Or Stay at the ISA hotel 1 minute walk from LR from around 40 Euro a night.Nice to walk in the Summertime, but who wants to walk now in the snowy condition. Even when I stayed at ISA I took my car, I'd saved the energy for the girls :)

Big30

12-14-10, 01:34

Nice to walk in the Summertime, but who wants to walk now in the snowy condition. Even when I stayed at ISA I took my car, I'd saved the energy for the girls :)You are joking! It 's a 160m walk, in the evening most of the times I have to park my car in front off the ISA hotel. Or the parking spaces at the other side of the street that at day time mo-fr are not available. You will not save a lot of Energy, besides moving a car also involves Energy!

B30

Basketcase

01-03-11, 13:25

DAY 1 NRW TOUR
SAUNA CLUB LIVING ROOM

My flight arrived one hour late in Germany due to its late arrival from its prior destination. I then had a hectic drive from the airport to Living Room. It was meant to be 2 hours 10 minutes per googlemaps for the 227 Km but it took me actually 2 hours 30 minutes including a 5 minutes stop for a comfort break en route. There was bumper to bumper traffic and it was snowing slightly. At times I was driving at 50 Km per hour on the autobahn.

My arrival at Living Room was 18:40 and my departure was at 02:08 so around 7.5 hours were spent in the club. Official closing today at Living Room was 03:00 due to the Christmas hours. Living Room closed at 04:00 the night before.

I parked my car on the road just 15 metres from the Living Room entrance. There was thick snow all around the road but I could park fairly easily. I went to the entrance and buzzed to be let in. The dark haired Thekefrau came out to open the gate and shook my hand in welcome. In reception I gave the Thekefrau my name. The Thekfrau asked whether I had been to Living Room before and I said, “Yes I had been to Living Room before and Golden Time many times as well.” Entry was 50€ but I paid only 40€ due to 10€ discount card obtained from Golden Time, the sister club of Living Room.

I then went down the stairs to the locker rooms to get unchanged, have my shower and don my white bathrobe. My magnetic locker key was 138.

In the main contact room there was in total I would say 20 to 30 girls / gazelles for 15 to 20 bears so a better than 1:1 ratio. There is a bit of a gloomy atmosphere, but very relaxed. I found that the girls this visit do not approach unless you indicate her to come to you. After midnight there were never more than 5 bears in the club spread between the bar and the down stairs Jacuzzi area. I usually like to have a program of sex, sauna, shower, Jacuzzi, relax, sex, sauna, reading, etc... But somehow the small size of Living Room does not allow it despite the fact that the club was fairly empty.

After a review of the line up I do not see any gazelle that stands out. There are a few prospects but I also wanting to calm myself after the awfully long drive up to NRW. I take a drink, getting served is a little slow and the club is not busy even. There is two blond bar staff girls. I think one of the bar staff must be an ex-working girl since she is petite, really pretty and a lot of the customers seem to know her well giving her kisses. I sit at the bar and look around. Deriana (bg) comes to me. She has long dark hair and goes topless wearing just a pair of pants. She falls into my arms and snuggles up with me. Deriana gives me the hard sell and I politely refuse as Deriana is not my type.

Dinner at Living Room is served at 18:00 so the evening meal has been out for some time. I head outdoors into the snow to the cooking tent at 19:10 and find that the chef is still serving. The chef is the one that I recognise from Golden Time. He asks what I would like and suggested that the rump steak was good. I deferred to the chef’s recommendation.

18:00-19:30 Dinner
1. Grilled rump steak, sauté potatoes, pepper sauce; or
2. Taglitelle noodles and creamy spinach sauce
Both meals are served with green mixed salad.

The chef cooks me a steak fresh to my wellness order. I take my food into the main lounge to eat and keep warm. Although the cook tent was warm as well with gas braziers warming it up.

I have noted a cute blond Evelyne that was doing the rounds. She was lively and seemed popular in getting customers to book her for half hour sessions.

1 hour session: 20:00 to 20:55

EVELYNE (Romanian - blonde)

Nationality / Languages spoken: Romanian / English
Age: 22 (23 in January)
Face: cute, round
Hair: Blonde
Eyes: blue
Height: 1.70 m
Bust: natural C cup, a little saggy, large areolas
Silhouette / body: slim, long shapely legs, fully shaven pussy, very loose pussy, did not need lube for sex
Tattoos - Piercings: lower stomach tattoo
Fellatio: yes
Cunnilingus: allowed a little but would not let me make her come
Kiss (Yes / No): we kissed a little
Time: 1 hour
Price: 100€
Other features:

I note that Evelyne would take her time to give social time with her man before going to the room. That looked good in that she was not a hustler. When she was free Evelyne would be doing the rounds making being charming and having fun with her friends. I also noted that Evelyne likes to dance to the Living Room house music. She will when in the mood make a breathtaking pole dance show. She is a slim pretty blonde doll with decent tits and a bit of a gymnast from her moves.

While I am sitting at the bar I motion for Evelyne to come over. She sees me, makes a smirk and then goes over to talk to her friends. I think, “The gazelle has ignored me.” Then Evelyne makes her way to me in her sexy way. She was being playful. Evelyne wears a short pink satin dress that is low cut at the front, but enough to support her natural breasts and wears pink pants. She has a very pretty face, one of the best looking girls at Living Room that night. She is leggy and her bosom just looked like it needed exploring. She also has lovely long blond hair. I found Evelyne to be charming, she did not broach going to the room and was happy to chat to get to know each other. She has a beautiful smile and a gorgeous body albeit her stomach is not a taut drum.

Evelyne melts into my arms and I get to hold her warm body against mine and get to rest my hands on her arse. Evelyne has worked at Villa Vertigo for a fortnight long ago before coming to work at Living Room. I decide to book Evelyne and ask her to get a key.

Evelyne comes back and we take room on the main bar level to the right. There is a mirror on the ceiling and the bed is a double. We set the bed up and Evelyne strips off her pink dress and I take off my bathrobe.

We both lie on the bed facing each other and DFK. Evelyne kisses really well. I lick Evelyne’s breasts. Evelyne’s other great advantage is her magnificent natural C Cup breasts with big dark areola, which is sucked, licked and eaten with pleasure. I lick the nipples, suck the areola and lick the sensitive underside of her heavy breasts.

Evelyne moves to BBBJ and does fellatio for no more than 2 minutes. There is no BLS.

I then indicate to Evelyne to lie back and relax. I run my hands over her naked body exploring her to find her erogenous zones. I then get in between Evelyne’s spread legs and kiss her then work my way down her body slowly, lingering over the best bits before getting to her shaven pussy. I lick her pussy and get her dripping wet. Evelyne stops me from making her come since it is hard for her to continue to work once she comes.

I ask Evelyne can we go for one hour and Evelyne says that she wants 50€ for each half hour so one hour is 100€.

Then Evelyne gives me another blowjob and then it is on with one of my condoms. We start off in missionary, and then move to doggie style sex and then dead doggie with Evelyne lying face down on her stomach. I am not getting any friction in Evelyne. She did not use any lube so it must be natural wetness. I do not come.

We take a rest.

Evelyne gives me another blowjob, then licks my nipples, puts on one of my condoms with her mouth and continues to perform a blowjob. Then to my surprise Evelyne hops on me in cowgirl. This girl sure knows how to move and is flexible about it. Evelyne bends in low to me to lick my nipples and kiss me as she fucks me as I lay on my back. The sensations she produces are enjoyable and the position is visually pleasing. I fondle and kiss Evelyne’s hanging breasts in return. Evelyne’s breasts are warm, soft and yielding. The flesh massage my chest as she humps up and down on me.

I indicate for Evelyne that I want to get up and we move to missionary where I fuck her some more then pull out and turn Evelyne over onto her stomach and enter again for dead doggie again. I fuck her and then when the time is to come I finish with a COB.

We clear up.

We go downstairs to the shared lockers where I hand over 100€ to Evelyne and receive some nice kisses in thank you and good bye.

During the stay the brunette day time Thekefrau is relieved by the stunning slim long haired blond Thekefrau who is today wearing a one piece black mini dress tightly tucked in by a broad belt and enhanced with light pink knee high leather boots. The last time I saw this gorgeous creature she wore a tight fitting bodice top that exposed a fair amount of cleavage which was incredibly sexy. The blond Thekefrau is smooth, cool, tall. I would love to book her and have my cock in her mouth, pussy and asshole and then finish in her mouth. She is that beautiful.

20:00 Soup is served, made from dinner’s left over’s, so chunks of steak, potatoes, enhancement of beans and spiced up with chilli.

23:00 Pizza is served, there was no queue or crowd so gazelles and Ice bears picked slices off the trays at leisure in a buffet style. I had a magherita slice, ham and pineapple slice, salami slice and peppers (paprika) slice.

While in the cinema I noticed a tall cute blond in a red bra and bikini panty set. She was invited to join a prone Ice Bear lying on his back at the top mattress watching the porno movie. She lay with her giving him a hand job and giving him kisses. She did this for around 10 minutes before the cute blond went off to get a key and they went to the room. It was 00:00 now.

I thought that I would need to wait half hour at least for her. There were no other prospects except doing Evelyne again but by now I had lost sight of Evelyne.

There was another cute, slim, petite blond that was wrapped in a towel that was popping out every so often to get drinks from the bar, stopping to chat with friends and then returning to the room. I would like to meet her but she seemed well occupied.

It was now 00:30 and I see the tall, cute blond finish with her client walking through the main bar to the lockers to get paid. I finish my drink, freshen up and head to the cinema to wait this girl out. From what I see this slim cute blond hunts for customers in the cinema so I decide to wait for her there. I am lying in the back of the cinema on the mattress.

At 00:27, I see the tall cute blond come into the cinema. Bingo! I wave her over, the blond comes over a leaves her hand bag on the mattress near me and says she going to get a towel and a drink. The girl returns and climbs on to the mattress to my right hand side and snuggles up to me into the crook of my arm.

We introduce ourselves and I find that she is Olga from Latvia. I have some pre session time with Olga (lv) from 00:40 to 00:50 in the cinema cuddling, fondling and kissing. She strokes my chest, my inner thighs and then gives me a hand job before giving me sweet kisses with tongues. Olga looks good and is in shape. I agree to book her.

1 hour session: 00:50 to 01:53

OLGA (Latvian - blonde)
________________________________________
Nationality / languages: Russian / Speaks very little German or English
Age: 24
Face: charming
Hair: short haired dark blond.
Eyes: clear blue eyes
Size: 1.75 m
Chest: A cups
Silhouette / body: slim, fine, beautiful....
Tattoos - Piercings:
Blow job: Yes
Cunnilingus: Yes
Kiss (Yes / No): great kissing, lots of tongue and with passion
Time: 1 hour
Price: 75€
Other features:

Olga is a charming young lady. There is a bit of a communication problem, since she only speaks Russian so I have to keep the English and German very simple. She seems very shy but soon warms up especially when in private where she is active and very much into the session. Olga is from Riga. She is nice looking. Dark blond, tall at 5’ 8”, early twenties, solarium tanned per her admission, A cups, slim build, leggy, a tight firm ass, a belly that is not firm, and wears a red bra and panty set which were tiny.

Since she speaks neither German nor English we do not talk much. She embraces me incredibly well and intensely. We DFK, Olga’s DFK is forceful and passionate. We fondle each other, I lick her breasts and then Olga gets me to lie back so that she lick my body from chest, nipples, stomach, inner thighs then goes for the blow job. She also does an excellent BLS. I get one of my condoms and we attempt sex, but somehow I lose my woody. Olga performs more BBBJ on me after taking the condom off, BLS, licking my nipples, then some body to body frottage to stimulate me.

I ask Olga if we can go for one hour and she says yes.

I call a rest and get her to lie on the bed on her stomach. I caress her back, her tight shapely arse and her legs. I then start to nuzzle her ass and her pussy with my lips and tongue. Olga spreads her legs to allow me access to her pussy to be licked. Olga arches her back and pushes her arse up into the air to allow me better access to her rear end so I could lick and suckle on her cunni. Olga becomes aroused and then turns over to lie back on the bed to face me to get the full enjoyment and to allow me better access to her pussy. I start slowly kissing from her face, lips, neck to her torso, breasts, stomach, inner thighs before I perform DATY on her. Olga comes.

Olga says that she wants to smoke. I say she cannot smoke until I have come too. I get Olga to lie down flat on her stomach and I enter her from behind, I hump away pounding her arse. Olga clenches her arse cheeks to squeeze my cock. The sensation is wonderful. I pull out and COB finishes over her backside.

Olga is then allowed to have her smoke and I give her a massage for 15 minutes. I think Olga would have let me keep on touching her and massaging her but I was not sure of the time as my watch was in my bathrobe so I could not see the time. When I asked if we could finish I saw that we had been 1 hour and 3 minutes in the room and Olga was in no hurry or demand by Olga to leave since she was enjoying the relaxing massage I was giving her so much.

I escort Olga to the down stairs lockers and extract 75€ for her. I get some really nice kisses in response. She really enjoyed the session. So did I!

At 02:00 the club is really dead. It is time to leave. I take a last drink at the bar and check on the line up on whether I had missed anyone. I have not. In fact the Living Room line up is dwindling. I was with Olga (lv) from 00:40 to 01:53 in total so I missed how gloomy it had become in the intervening period.

I go to the lockers to get changed into my outdoor clothes.

After 7.5 hours in Living Room I leave the club at 02:08. The gorgeous blond Thekefrau in the black mini dress and light pink leather knee high boots gives me a smile and a 5€ discount entry card for my next Living Room visit on the way out. When I am getting into my car I spot another 5€ discount entry card for Living Room and add that to my stash. I note that I now have 6 x 10€ discount cards and 3 x 5€ discount cards which I have for Living Room in my FKK cards wallet. It will take a few visits to work through all those discount cards.

Total spend in the club is 40€ entry, 100€ on blond Eveline (ro) and 75€ on blond Olga (lv) so 215€ all up for 2 hours in the room including COB finishes.

I drive to my hotel room at Etap hotel in West Willich. The drive did not take long. I park the car and enter my reservation code into the after hours machine. My entry code and room number are printed out. I punch the entry code into the panel by the door and I go up to my room 203 to sleep.

Tomorrow was Villa Vertigo and Golden Time.

*** GIRLS LINE UP ***

1. Carla
2. Deriana (bg) black hair, G string wearing, goes topless to show off her firm B cups, continually hunts the room and spends social time with customers.
3. Evelyne / Evelyne (ro) blond, blue eyes slim, C cups
4. Melissa (kz) dark blond/ light brown hair, A cups, slim build, ex Golden Time
5. Olga (lv) dark blond
6. Vera (ro) blond, friendly, average looks
7. ? (ro) tiny black haired girl, huge perfect shaped breasts that must have been D cups
8. ? (ru) MILF
9. ? (?) slim pretty blond, always wore a towel wrapped around her waist like she was constantly booked. She would come from the rooms to the bar and get a drink, have a chat to her friends and then return to the room. She did this several times during my stay so the guy must have been having a marathon session.
10. ? (ro) tiny blond, maybe South American since she had that Latin look and was playing the poker machine in Spanish language
11. ? (ro) dark blond, ultra skinny
12. ? (?) tall, average build, but looks huge due to her size, MILF, brown hair
13. ? (bg)

+ Several non-descript overweight Romanians in G strings that showed off their more than curvaceous arses hanging out.

*** Logistics ***

Car hire for 3 days with Hertz 80.77€ plus snow tyres at 45.02€ making a combined 125.79€ or 41.93€ per day for car hire. Hertz gave me a dark blue, manual drive, 1.6 litre Ford Focus station wagon so there was plenty of room and a powerful enough car.

Petrol used was 54.42 litres costing 80.70€ which drove me 650 Km per the Hertz recording (or 647.3 Km per the odometer). So the 1.6 Litre Ford Focus was getting me 12 Km per litre in relatively dry conditions in the cold German depths of December 2010. The petrol cost per Km was 12.4 cents per Km.

Total spend on land transport in Germany was 206.49€ for three days. That works out at 31.8 cents per Km. I think that maybe taking public transport of taxi and train may actually work out much cheaper but probably not as convenient. It is the winter tyre hiring that ramp up the cost over the short trip since winter tyres are a one off fixed charge regardless of the term of hire.

Hotel was the Etap hotel in West Willich which was 35€ per night (70€ for two nights) booked on www.accorhotel.com.

My flight was on special and cost 70.18€ return. Return bus to the airport was 17.55€.

Entrance fees for Living Room, Villa Vertigo, and Golden Time twice would normally cost 2004 came to 180€ since I managed to obtain 20€ in entry discounts. The discounts were 10€ at Living Room and 10€ at Villa Vertigo.

Total fixed costs for this 3 day trip works out to be 206.49+70+70.18+17.55+180 = 544.22€ before I start even fucking any courtesan. That is 181.41€ per day on average. That 181.41€ actually buys at least one hour with a top class escort at home. Makes me think about whether these trips are value for money.

When I add in the expenditure on girls from day 1 at Living Room of 175€, Day 2 at Golden Time of 220€ and today day 3 at Golden Time of 350€ then that is another 745€ on top of the base cost of 544.22€ making a grand total of 1,289.22€ for 7 hours in the room over 3 days. That works out at 184.17€ per hour of room time which as said above is equivalent to the price of a high end escort at home for one hour but without the trip away, refreshments and wellness facilities.

Nille Copenhagen

01-03-11, 16:27

* Logistics *

Car hire for 3 days with Hertz 80. 77€ plus snow tyres at 45. 02€ making a combined 125. 79€ or 41. 93€ per day for car hire. Hertz gave me a dark blue, manual drive. 1.6 litre Ford Focus station wagon so there was plenty of room and a powerful enough car.

Hi Basketcase, great report on LR,

I do enjoy the GT+LR combo. Staying long time at LR is a bit boring and the smoke in the main lounge is killing me. So I tend like you to be in the room for 1 hour or more with my favorites.

I've approx. Same travel cost as you flying from DK. I always rent a car as it is convenient and I like to stay late at the clubs, so public transportation (PT) is not a good option for me except for Artemis in Berlin where PT is more convenient. Yes you may wonder if you include the travel cost to your fuck budget, then is hourly rate is sometimes higher than your local provider, but then again where can you enjoy and fuck so many nice girls in one place than the in the German FKKs or Termas in Rio. If you stay home would you fuck girls for 7 hours in 3 days? Na.

Last time in Dec. I complained to Hertz about the Winter tires fee, I look at the weather forecast and insist in.

No Winter tires is needed. But they charge me for the fee anyway with out putting on the Winter tires, so I got the refund after the complaining, in your case there was much snow, so it was wise to choose the Winter tires.

Nille

Toscana

01-03-11, 16:45

Last time in Dec. I complained to Hertz about the Winter tires fee, I look at the weather forecast and insist in.

No Winter tires is needed. But they charge me for the fee anyway with out putting on the Winter tires, so I got the refund after the complaining, in your case there was much snow, so it was wise to choose the Winter tiresOff topic, this, but surprising. Winter tyres are now obligatory in Germany. EUR 40 if you are stopped. And indeed you need them, every year.

Big30

01-03-11, 17:33

Off topic, this, but surprising. Winter tyres are now obligatory in Germany. EUR 40 if you are stopped. And indeed you need them, every year.Yes that is true. Effective since December 1 2010. But only when you drive in Winter conditions. Risk that they stop you and check is minimal but clearly Winter tyres are a better option than summer tyres.
80 Euro when they stop you while causing a traffic disturbance ... .

Problem is they are currently difficult to get.

B30

Nille Copenhagen

01-03-11, 17:54

Yes that is true. Effective since December 1 2010. But only when you drive in Winter conditions. Risk that they stop you and check is minimal but clearly Winter tyres are a better option than summer tyres.

Problem is they are currently difficult to get.

B30I know the rules in Germany for Winter tires that is why I didn't want to pay for Winter tires, when the weather forecast said no snow and it was about plus 1 degree.

What makes me mad at Hertz is they didn't have proper Winter tires on the car, it was all season tires. The tires are a bit better than Summer tires, but they are not proper Winter tire and would perform badly in snow,

I know what I'm talking about as I've always used good quality winter tires like Continental WinterContact TS 8xx, Michelin ALPIN, Goodyear Ultra Grip. For years.

I did took a photo of the "claim Winter tires" to show it to Hertz.

Don't mess me about the Winter tires.

I'm living in a Nordic country where Winter tires are very important for us.

I'm still laughing my ass off that Heathrow and Frankfurt. Airport had to close due to some snow. We had lot of snow here and the airport is never closed.

I guess this is off, off-topic, let's back to the girls.

Nille

Hessen Bub

01-03-11, 19:00

Anybody seen Maya, RO, formerly working at Acapulco in Velbert at LR? Heard that she switched the location.

HB

Fearless8

01-03-11, 19:16

Yes that is true. Effective since December 1 2010. But only when you drive in Winter conditions. Risk that they stop you and check is minimal but clearly Winter tyres are a better option than summer tyres.

80 Euro when they stop you while causing a traffic disturbance. .

Problem is they are currently difficult to get.

B30A friend and I are planning to make a trip to Germany in March. Are winter tires required then? I'm not concerned about driving in snow as I'm a "veteran" of winter driving in Michigan and the mountains of NE Pennsylvania. I just don't want to spend money uselessly.

Basketcase

01-03-11, 20:16

Anybody seen Maya, RO, formerly working at Acapulco in Velbert at LR? Heard that she switched the location.

HBI am not sure if its the same girl but I fucked a Maya at Golden Time last week. Beautiful girl and she gave some good service. I did not ask where she worked before Golden Time. I had not seen her before and I had not noticed her names on line up lists for Golden Time. My Golden Time trip reports are still being written up.

Nille Copenhagen

01-03-11, 20:24

I am not sure if its the same girl but I fucked a Maya at Golden Time last week. Beautiful girl and she gave some good service. I did not ask where she worked before Golden Time. I had not seen her before and I had not noticed her names on line up lists for Golden Time. My Golden Time trip reports are still being written up.Nope the dear Maja is new at GT she is an ex-VV girl, she is from Letvia and sweet girl with fake boobs, I know her from VV, she is a bit inexperience IMO.

Nille

Basketcase

01-03-11, 20:38

Nope the dear Maja is new at GT she is an ex-VV girl, she is from Letvia and sweet girl with fake boobs, I know her from VV, she is a bit inexperience IMO.

NilleHi Nille,

I think you have got the right girl. Strawbery blond Maya or Maja as you have spelt her name does indeed have fake boobs. C cup and she is a sweet funny girl. She hangs out with Blond Lia (de) and Elena (gr) at Golden Time who are both veteran girls there.

The difference is that Maya told me that she was from Germany and not Latvia. She certainly felt like she was German.

I fucked Olga at Living Room and she was definitely Latvian.

Big30

01-03-11, 20:43

Anybody seen Maya, RO, formerly working at Acapulco in Velbert at LR? Heard that she switched the location.

HBYes but that was begin December. Was the Maya ex-ACA. The Maya in GT is indeed the Maya / Maija ex-VV. See pictures VV blog:
http://saunaclub.com/saunaclub-vertigo-news/ein-top-fotomodel-aus-litauen-in-der-villa/

There is also a German (half Tunesia) Maya in GT, guess that is the girl BC was with.

B30

Basketcase

01-03-11, 20:55

Yes but that was begin December. Was the Maya ex-ACA. The Maya in GT is indeed the Maya / Maija ex-VV. See pictures VV blog:

http://saunaclub.com/saunaclub-vertigo-news/ein-top-fotomodel-aus-litauen-in-der-villa/

There is also a German (half Tunesia) Maya in GT, guess that is the girl BC was with.

B30Hi Big30,

Thank you for the link and the pictures of Maija / Maya from Lithuania. I am afraid that is not the Maya that I booked at Golden Time. The ex VV Maya is really stunning, slim, tall and black haired. I would not mind boning that as well.

The Maya that I went with was well tanned, strawberry blond, petite and had enhanced C cups and said she was German. I think I did book the half Tunisian Maya that you mention. Thanks for the confirmation.

Big30

01-03-11, 21:00

Hi Big30,

The Maya that I went with was well tanned, strawberry blond, petite and had enhanced C cups and said she was German. I think I did book the half Tunisian Maya that you mention. Thanks for the confirmation. Most probably Yes! Saw her Nov in GT and she grew up in Germany, so speaks fluently German, also your description matches well.

Hessen Bub

01-03-11, 21:37

Thanks Big30. She wanted to return December 27.

HB

Nille Copenhagen

01-03-11, 21:45

Hi Big30,

Thank you for the link and the pictures of Maija / Maya from Lithuania. I am afraid that is not the Maya that I booked at Golden Time. The ex VV Maya is really stunning, slim, tall and black haired. I would not mind boning that as well.

Yes Maija is her real name (a tattoo confirms that, you'll have to find it when you see her naked.) and she is stunning in look department, but sex is quite ordinary, she is not that tall as you think, but she has style, dancing with her at VV parties is priceless.

Nille

Italian Buz

01-04-11, 23:06

Yesterday, after a day in GT I moved to LR as far as I had an appointment with one of my 3 best girl-friends in the clubs.

She is a tall blond Polish, known in GT as Juliana and in LR as Francesca (I think. I know her with her real name so I get confused sometimes.)

Anyhow you cannot miss her: tall, blond, striking beautiful face with blue eyes and great C natural cups.

So yesterday was my first time in LR on aMonday. It was evident also there that many girls were still missing but it was anyhow simply great. The situation was around 10/15 men at 9pm and 30/35 girls! So the best situation for having a great choice.

But I was very tired so just enjoyed one hour of chatting and one hour in the room with Francesca and I missed the occasion of a repeat with an other great regular performer of LR who is Sonia. Please see my previous reports in the thread for a description of her.

Tomorrow evening, but very late I will again go to LR but I will be there at around midnight as far as I have to pick up a friend at the airport landing at 22, 30.

All the best.

ITB

Italian Buz

01-06-11, 12:18

So yesterday I was at Weeze at 22, 45 to pick a friend of mine up who just landed and then driving 200km / h at 23, 25 we were already entering LR, LOL!

The line up improved quite a lot since Monday but the ration girls men was still 3 to 1 at least, a real joy for someone enjoying our hobby!

I sat there with my Polish Francesca and then out to the room for a great hour as usual with almost no comparison but ok at the end we have developed a friendship so we also talk about our personal life etc and that also builds up the level of the services.

We stood there till 3am and then we moved on to go to sleep driving back to Bruggen.

All the best,

ITB

Italian Buz

01-07-11, 12:56

So yesterday I left GT and moved on to LR for the evening, when I arrived the atmosphere was like the day before, few guests and lot of Girls.

Many girls also from VV who told me that there it is was dead over the week, too less business for them. Among the others I am pleased to inform her fans that Russian Marina, fromerly at VV is now to be seen with her incredible bottom in LR.

I was there to meet with Francesca so I did non sample other girls also because after so many days it is getting hard without any chemical help!

We chatted for one hour and then out we were in the room, simply great as usual but she in indeed an incredible girl in every aspect so you can only and simply enjoy her company in everyway.

Now I get back to my live reports, I will likely attend again LR tomorrow over my last night here in NRW to enjoy the company of the girls in ca great club that I love till 4am.

All the best.

ITB

Nille Copenhagen

01-07-11, 15:14

Among the others I am pleased to inform her fans that Russian Marina, fromerly at VV is now to be seen with her incredible bottom in LR.

She is called Nadia at LR, I had fun with her a few times, she gets mad if you don't cum.

Nille

Italian Buz

01-07-11, 16:23

She is called Nadia at LR, I had fun with her a few times, she gets mad if you don't cum.

NilleYes, I know it very well as far as once I did not come when she was still working in VV and she really got mad. But I must say that she really tried her best to make me come and I enjoyed her services at their best this way!

Voyager1

01-09-11, 01:11

A friend and I are planning to make a trip to Germany in March. Are winter tires required then? I'm not concerned about driving in snow as I'm a "veteran" of winter driving in Michigan and the mountains of NE Pennsylvania. I just don't want to spend money uselessly.I was in Frankfurt renting a car at the airport in March 2009 and had ordered winter tyres. But just before I was going to pick up the vehicle I happened to pass by the Tourist desk and asked him if they were required. He informed me that since the weather was no longer freezing cold I would be wasting my money in ordering the tyres. I subsequently took his advice and changed the order to summer tyres and went on to do about 800km without any issues. As the weather is the variable, you may want pass it by the tourist desk and get his input. The tourist desk is in the same wing as the car rental area in the airport. Hope this helps.

Toscana

01-09-11, 20:49

Can anyone say anything about the line-up early in the day at this club? Thanks.

Dedalus

01-10-11, 01:57

Can anyone say anything about the line-up early in the day at this club? Thanks.Hit or miss during the week. Some times you can step into a goldmine. But most mid-week lunch line ups that I've seen there have been thin. Great club, but quirky. Sometimes it is the best line up in the NRW and sometimes it is just plain rough.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Charlie 123

01-10-11, 18:20

I was in Frankfurt renting a car at the airport in March 2009 and had ordered winter tyres. But just before I was going to pick up the vehicle I happened to pass by the Tourist desk and asked him if they were required. He informed me that since the weather was no longer freezing cold I would be wasting my money in ordering the tyres. I subsequently took his advice and changed the order to summer tyres and went on to do about 800km without any issues. As the weather is the variable, you may want pass it by the tourist desk and get his input. The tourist desk is in the same wing as the car rental area in the airport. Hope this helps.Be careful. Driving without the correct tyres is a serious offense in Germany. At a minimum, your insurance would be invalidated and you would be responsible for the accident damage to both cars whether or not the crash was your fault. I do not know exactly which date is the change-over date for summer tyres, but it is a fixed date regardless of the weather.

This is NOT a good area in which to skimp.

Charlie

Big30

01-10-11, 20:37

I do not know exactly which date is the change-over date for summer tyres, but it is a fixed date regardless of the weather.

CharlieNo that is not true. Winter tyres are required when you drive in "Winter weather conditions". Most Germans use them typical from November untill March. There is no fixed period defined by Law when you must drive winter tyres.

@Toscana: I would not recommend LR if you stay there only During day time. But you can certainly have a good time during day-time in LR, it is just that LR is more a club where more is hapening in the evening and night.

B30

Breadman

01-10-11, 20:50

As the weather is the variable, you may want pass it by the tourist desk and get his input. The tourist desk is in the same wing as the car rental area in the airport. Hope this helps.Why would you even think of stopping by the tourist desk to get a weather forecast? I land in Germany, I'm hurtling past all the slow travelors so that I can squeeze in one more fuck. Its also possible that his bunion wasn't hurting anymore, so you might actually be correct in stopping by his booth.

I was in Frankfurt renting a car at the airport in March 2009 and had ordered winter tyres....and changed the order to summer tyres and went on to do about 800km without any issues..Do you really think they had a car with summer tires handy to replace your car that had winter tires on it? Or maybe they have very fast mechanics hidden somewhere who changed your tires before you made it to the parking garage. Or maybe there was some idiot arriving a half hour after you who insisted on having a car with summer tires. And they forced him to take your car with winter tires. I figure they change over the tires on all their cars before winter hits to conform with the law. And that 'adding winter tires' to your rental is just an expense you didn't need to click. But I'm not sure, next time I'm in Frankfurt I'll ask the tourist desk if this is true.

Hessen Bub

01-10-11, 21:44

Big30

01-10-11, 21:54

Actually the rule is "from O to O", meaning from Oktober bis Ostern (October thru Easter).

HBI know HB, but that is an informal Rule and in NRW it is different when compared with Hessen or Bayern. Easter 2011 is very late, almost Summer by then, LOL!

Basketcase

01-10-11, 22:17

No that is not true. Winter tyres are required when you drive in "Winter weather conditions". Most Germans use them typical from November untill March. There is no fixed period defined by Law when you must drive winter tyres.Hi Big30,

For all my December 2010 trips, Avis and Hertz just added snow tyres to my car hire with no demur. I had no problem for the snow tyres additions since I was actually wanting them anyway. For my January 2011 trips so far I have not had to take snow tyres per Hertz since the snowy conditions were melted away. During last week the weather was almost balmy with sunshine in pockets where I did walk in the forest for a bit since it was so warm. My car thermometer read 14 degrees celsius at times.

I am hoping that Hertz is following the law here in regard to snow tyres?

Big30

01-10-11, 22:42

Hi Big30,

During last week the weather was almost balmy with sunshine in pockets where I did walk in the forest for a bit since it was so warm. My car thermometer read 14 degrees celsius at times.

I am hoping that Hertz is following the law here in regard to snow tyres? Yes BC it was relatively hot last week and all snow melted away. But Winter is not over yet. But do not forget you as a car driver are responsible. In Hessen if I were to rent a car I would always ask for a car with winter tyres. In NRW it is less critical, reaching LR, GT, VV no problem. ACA and PSR I speak from experience in Winter time on Summer tyres is not recommended.

Hessen Bub

01-12-11, 19:56

I am hoping that Hertz is following the law here in regard to snow tyres?You are the driver, you are responsible. So you have to pay the extra fee for the winter tires.

HB

Akibono

01-16-11, 18:33

Lr on sat was a disaster. Weak lineup and.

Hour waits for rooms. Plus some were

So stinking hot because they were in

Constant use. Met up with Lomi German.

MILF, new on Job with great tongue technique.

Also romina looking really good.

Nille Copenhagen

01-16-11, 18:47

Also romina looking really good.Hey Akibono,

Is Romina now blond or dark hair, last time I was with her she has dark hair.

Nille

Akibono

01-19-11, 00:00

Hey Akibono,

Is Romina now blond or dark hair, last time I was with her she has dark hair.

NilleRomina has dark hair and is looking mighty hot. She must have been busy since I rarely saw her.

Fearless8

01-27-11, 18:54

No that is not true. Winter tyres are required when you drive in "Winter weather conditions". Most Germans use them typical from November untill March. There is no fixed period defined by Law when you must drive winter tyres.

B30I just made my rental car arrangements and this is what it said on the rental agreement.

"According to German law, winter tires are mandatory from October until March if the temperature is 7 degrees Celsius or below. Extra charges are not included in rental rates. Cost for Winter Tires: EUR 13. 00 / day, EUR 130. 00 max charge.". Thrifty Car Rental.

7 degrees Celsius = 44. 6 degrees Fahrenheit.

I hope that clarifies it.

Akibono

01-28-11, 04:01

Fats

01-28-11, 05:08

I just made my rental car arrangements and this is what it said on the rental agreement.

"According to German law, winter tires are mandatory from October until March if the temperature is 7 degrees Celsius or below. Extra charges are not included in rental rates. Cost for Winter Tires: EUR 13. 00 / day, EUR 130. 00 max charge.". Thrifty Car Rental.

7 degrees Celsius = 44. 6 degrees Fahrenheit.

I hope that clarifies it. This clarifies that Thrifty Car Rental wants to charge everyone who rents a car in Germany between October and March an extra EUR 13 / day, EUR 130 max charge for a German law which does not exist. The actual road conditions are the only thing that matter, the month of the year and the temperature are irrelevent.

§ 2 Abs. 3a StVO (neue Fassung ab. 4.12. 2010)

Straßenbenutzung durch Fahrzeuge.

Bei Glatteis, Schneeglätte, Schneematsch, Eis- oder Reifglätte darf ein Kraftfahrzeug nur mit Reifen gefahren werden, welche die in Anhang II Nr. 2.2 der Richtlinie 92/23 / EWG des Rates vom 31. März 1992 über Reifen von Kraftfahrzeugen und Kraftfahrzeuganhängern und über ihre Montage (ABl. L 129 vom 14. 5.1992, S. 95) , die zuletzt durch die Richtlinie 2005/11 / EG (ABl. L 46 vom 17. 2.2005, S. 42) geändert worden ist, beschriebenen Eigenschaften erfüllen (M+S-Reifen).

Levitraboner

01-28-11, 06:31

Don't they have all season tires in germany? I think almost all tires are considered all season. Look at the small witing on the tire, if it says the size then at, I believe it is all-season. But I'm not an expert.

Big30

01-28-11, 12:59

Jack42

01-28-11, 18:39

Oh no not again: A new discussion about winter tires.

Basketcase

01-29-11, 00:26

Indeed you are not an expert, LOL. All season is not winterreifen (= M+S sign)

Read what Fats is writing, only there you find the correct info. The law only states "Winter conditions" and the definition is given there : § 2 Abs. 3a StVO (neue Fassung ab. 4.12. 2010)

This is my last remark about Winterreifen! This is also what Hertz explained to me as well. The fines were 40€ to 80€ depending on if you get stuck or obstruct or in an accident.

I took the winter tyres as a precaution. I have done so every trip I have made since early December.

On my last trip which was last week I knew the weather was going to be fine. Maybe got to. 2 degrees celsius but no ice and only a pitter patter of snow. Cost me 45. 02€ extra for 3 days snow tyre hire. I did get an upgrade on the rental car by two classes since the small cars did not seem to be equipped for snow tyres. So I paid for a VW Polo with maybe 1. 2 litre engine but ended up with a 1. 6 litre engined spacious rental car. Nice to drive.

In the end I realise that I did not need them as it was relatively ambient during the time I was in country.

Toscana

01-29-11, 21:28

Oh no not again: A new discussion about winter tires.For someone whose last report on anything on this entire forum was in September 09, and indeed that report concerned only taxis (irony supreme!), your remonstration might reasonably be treated with a little worldly weariness. Have you by any chance fucked anyone / anything in the last sixteen months? I'm just gagging to hear the details.

Scubaman57

01-31-11, 16:28

For someone whose last report on anything on this entire forum was in September 09, and indeed that report concerned only taxis (irony supreme!), your remonstration might reasonably be treated with a little worldly weariness. Have you by any chance fucked anyone / anything in the last sixteen months? I'm just gagging to hear the details.Just Back from a Great weekend in Dusseldorf and spent time in Living Room on Friday Afternoon early, not to busy. Some nice ladies walking around, but to many on the slots machines. Had my first session with a nice girl from Hungary, good action with a great blow job and then a very passionate sex with her. Then on to sit in movie room for a rest. Later in the move room meet a girl from Russian thin black hair had a session on the couch and of to room a quick fuck all she wanted and money. Plenty of men arriving at 7 o clock had my final session with a tall Hungarian girl had to work hard but was worth it. Left Living Room at 9. 00 while outside waiting for taxi only to see men being told house full. Decided as night was early would go to Dolce Vita, not busy but had a great session with a little black girl called Annabell a little tiger lovely nipples. Found Dolce Vita was expencive to get in€ 65 and drinks extra. Saturday decided to try Planet Happy Garden got their at 7 o clock after Taxi man got lost a few times. Big group of men from Holland out on a birthday party plenty of girls there. Lots of smoking one thing that was not enjoyable. Got the eye of Clara from Moldova tall black hair nice bouncy bobs great ass and good fun, then of to room for, as it turned out 2 hours, could not get enough of her in all the positions that I wanted. Back to the bar for some more fun with the girls, got hassled by some girls saying the were from Spain but really from Romania. The birthday party was in full flow with some pole action from the girls it was good. Food was ok left it late to get it. Must be a sucker but back to Clara for one more session of one hour. Liked what I got before so back for more and was not disappointed has a gifted mouth and body to get the most out of me

Left the club at closing time of one with the taxi man who brought us their he had a session with the tall black girl kept talking about it on the way home. Was in two minds on going in to Living Room on the was home as we passed by but decided to hit back to hotel.

Sunday, Düsseldorf is quite no shops open decided to walk around the old town and enjoyed a few beers looking at river, but the urge said Living Room so out again we go get their at 4 o clock and see a lot of men their as the evening goes on more girls. See the Russian girl with her friend are their none of the girls from Hungary get to meet a nice French girl topless but also see a beauty from Morocco and go for her, room 1 again with mirrors on the roof. To start with one of the best blow jobs I have had and soon afterwards have her from behind. Time is against me so have to leave, would like to have got to know one of the girls with black short hair but she was playing the slot machine, her loss as she would have more playing with me that she got from the machine.

Over all had a great weekend in Düsseldorf looking forward to going back to try other clubs. Sorry I did not rent a car and I could have talked better on the snow tires. Our Taxi man was doing 150 km in. 4.5 degrees first time for me. Taxi are expensive.

Hessen Bub

01-31-11, 17:56

Hhm, some names would have been helpful.

HB

Oliver Huntemann

02-03-11, 23:19

I went Wednesday night to the Living Room. After having been at Artemis, Palace, Dolce Vita I actually liked the club quite a lot. Lots of girls, free alcohol, clean and good atmosphere. There were a lot of Rumenians but my first session was with an small italian brunette. Nice but my big cock seemed to hurt her a little bit. Only 8 minutes of fucking there.

My second session was a threesome with 2 rumenian girls. Really nicesex. Third sessiona and by far the best was with a german blonde wich I did sex and CIM. Loved it.

Second night I did one session with rumeninan blonde.

Overall a nice club and actueally I would have liked to fuck the blonde girl at the reception most.

Simex

02-04-11, 12:36

The tall German Blonde. Was it Kim with short hair or her best friend Emma (half Swedish / German) with longer Blonde extension (more curvey)

I was there on Wednesday evening. Had long session with Emma.

After a disappointing visit (line-up) to Samya on Thursday evening I headed to LV again. Lineup was very impressive (given the 2 German blonde absent) Miko or Mika. Tall dark long hair from Poland; and the return of Naiomi (21 year. Long brunnette hair from Germany. Used to be regular at GT)

I went Wednesday night to the Living Room. After having been at Artemis, Palace, Dolce Vita I actually liked the club quite a lot. Lots of girls, free alcohol, clean and good atmosphere. There were a lot of Rumenians but my first session was with an small italian brunette. Nice but my big cock seemed to hurt her a little bit. Only 8 minutes of fucking there.

My second session was a threesome with 2 rumenian girls. Really nicesex. Third sessiona and by far the best was with a german blonde wich I did sex and CIM. Loved it.

Second night I did one session with rumeninan blonde.

Overall a nice club and actueally I would have liked to fuck the blonde girl at the reception most.

Big30

02-04-11, 14:17

Well known German Lisa was last weekend in LR. But most probably she will be hopping between LR and GT. Januari she also tried FKK-Planet for a few days.

Nille Copenhagen

02-04-11, 15:15

There were a lot of Rumenians but my first session was with an small italian brunette.Hehe, you been fooled. There are no Italian girls at LR! Some Romanian girls claim to be Italian because the can speak a few words. But who care where the girls are from as long they are sweet and beautiful.

Nille

Italian Buz

02-05-11, 12:59

Dear All,

Back in NRW and ready for a new weekend of live reporting from my favourite places, I just wanted to drop a few lines about yesterday night experience in LR.

I just landed late in Weeze at 23, 15 as far as my flight was delayed but I had lust to see some girls so I drove over till LR because they close at 4am.

There the situation was really good for hunting as far as around midnight it was no longer really crowded but most of the girls were present. Line-up was excellent for LR standards and many new faces were there but what a surpise when I saw Liza there!

I talked quite long with her, she was really in a great mood and we chatted along for a while where she explained me that she moved definetl from GT for logistic reasons. So all her fans can find her in LR now usually attending the night shift 6pm till closing!

I was really tired so simply enjoyed the atmosphere and had only one session with Romanian Alma, slim brunette with A cups. Not the most beautiful but really nice both out of the room as well as in the room where she perfomed grat DFK and BBBJ and we fucked in a couple of positions. It was just what a tired man like me needed to go to sleep deeply.

So I can confirm that LR is as usual a very good place for hunting and the line up is likely stronger than ever.

Take care.

ITB

BikerDiver34

02-07-11, 07:50

Hi folks,

I'm back from my short trip to DUS and I had an excellent time@LR, thank you very much for your valuable feedback.

I've arrived to LR quite late at 10 PM on Tuesday by using the S28 line from DUS Hbh, it was very convenient. There were a good selection of girls for all taste, around 20 to 30 girls in total.

My first session was with a lovely Polish girl named Anna, tall, blond, blue eyes, beautiful smile. She said that she was studying in DUS and working only 2 days a week in LR. The sex was a real GFE with tons of kissing and giggling. The only drawback was the language as I don't speak German and her English was limited. I've paid the usual 50 EUR for 30 min.

I've spent some time at spa area and had some slices of pizza served at 11 PM as usual.

I've decided to have another session with Anna unfortunately I couldn't see her around. I was approached by a little Romanian cutie at the bar but her name escapes me. She had dark hair, dark skin and small breasts. She was also speaking French as she's been to Le Havre for a while. Attracted by the romance of French, I've decided to have a try. However, the experience was very mechanic, no kissing and a routine sex. 30 min. And 50 EUR again. From now on no Romanians for me.

It was getting late and I was quite tired with the all business meetings of the day so I've took off at around 1 AM. Taxi to DUS has cost me 25 EUR.

In general, I've had a very good time@LR and I would definitly love to return one day.

Sorry for the limited report but I have a quite short memory.

Basketcase

02-07-11, 22:11

There were a lot of Rumenians but my first session was with an small italian brunette. Nice but my big cock seemed to hurt her a little bit. Only 8 minutes of fucking there.

Actueally I would have liked to fuck the blonde girl at the reception most. Oliver Huntemann,

As Nille says, your small Italian was probably Rumanian trying to pass off as Italian expecting you to not know any different.

However, similar to you of the Living Room girls the girl that I would like to fuck the most was the delectable blonde receptionist. She is well hot and dresses so sexy. She gets me horny.

Simex

02-07-11, 23:39

The receptionist is Anna. From Poland. Rumours has it she used to work many years back.

Oliver Huntemann,

As Nille says, your small Italian was probably Rumanian trying to pass off as Italian expecting you to not know any different.

However, similar to you of the Living Room girls the girl that I would like to fuck the most was the delectable blonde receptionist. She is well hot and dresses so sexy. She gets me horny.

Jack42

02-11-11, 04:11