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SwingerLover
01-21-13, 09:10
Just an example: http://www.partytreff-gelsenkirchen.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=2&lang=de&0c361d4c391726a239cb63f3f1ce8d45=99e7a18e1269f8f18bbd0daee5e3bf2e#motto

If you look at the picture for "Dienstag" (=Tuesday) you can clearly see what "Strapse" are: The suspenders holding the stockings. More examples here: http://baldis.net/events.html#c3 and here: http://baldis.net/events.html#c2

Hessen Bub
01-21-13, 09:28
Strapse means suspenders plus stockings.

HB

Djizz
01-22-13, 20:22
I keep reading reports of guys saying that for x amount of money, they get x services and they mention MPOS. ? Do I need to understand that the standard "suck and fuck" does not include MPOS with some girls? Is this just at Palace?

Thanks,

Djizz

Djizz
01-23-13, 02:23
Ok, I hope I won't offend any of you but I'm wondering if it's possible to get some some marijuana or hashish from the girls at Oase or Palace and actually smoke it with them. I'm planning a trip to Frankfurt late January and it should be even more fun a little high, not shitfaced. I'm not a big fan of alcohol, it just makes me crash. Obviously, if you do know and are willing to give me some contact info, please email me in private and I will of course delete your message as soon as I will have taken note of its content. Thanks.

Djizz

Banana Boi
01-23-13, 03:31
I keep reading reports of guys saying that for x amount of money, they get x services and they mention MPOS. ? Do I need to understand that the standard "suck and fuck" does not include MPOS with some girls? Is this just at Palace?I have never been asked for more money for MPOS.

Optimist
01-23-13, 11:50
MPOS. What does that mean? (I have looked in the Abbreviations list but couldn't find it)

Indi Companion
01-23-13, 11:53
MPOS. What does that mean? (I have looked in the Abbreviations list but couldn't find it)Could it be multiple positions? I also have no idea of the meaning of this abbreviation, from context I imagine it could have that meaning.

Angus Magee
01-23-13, 12:03
MPOS. What does that mean? (I have looked in the Abbreviations list but couldn't find it)Multiple Positions it seems.

http://www.internetslang.com/MPOS-meaning-definition.asp

Makes sense. And if a girl tries for extra every time you change positions, get out of there.

AM

Optimist
01-23-13, 13:09
Thanks Angus. Astonishing that any girl would even try to ask for extra. If that's her attitude she shouldn't be in an FKK.

By the way, is Nina still at Artemis? (I will get to Berlin this year).

Boulderado
01-26-13, 10:35
I have a crazy long layover 20 hr layover in FRA. I plan to do some sightseeing, then hit an FKK for late-night action, then make my way to FRA in time for the Senator lounges to open at 5am for a nap before my flight. I know that both Mainhattan and Palace stay open unti 4am, but which would be better in the wee hours of the morning? BTW, this will be on a Monday night / Tuesday morning.

Hessen Bub
01-26-13, 15:52
Monday's a slow day in all clubs, I'd prefer Palace over Mainhattan on a Monday night.

HB

Angus Magee
01-26-13, 16:07
By the way, is Nina still at Artemis? (I will get to Berlin this year).She was there this past December (my last visit) and as far as I know was planning to return after the holiday. I think you can be pretty sure that as long as she is not on one of her short vacation that she will be working later in the year.

AM

Simex
01-27-13, 00:08
It's possible, but no chance of smoking that stuff in the rooms.

The chances are higher with clubs along the Dutch boarder. GT; PHG; VV; YY where they have outside cabins to smoke.


Ok, I hope I won't offend any of you but I'm wondering if it's possible to get some some marijuana or hashish from the girls at Oase or Palace and actually smoke it with them. I'm planning a trip to Frankfurt late January and it should be even more fun a little high, not shitfaced. I'm not a big fan of alcohol, it just makes me crash. Obviously, if you do know and are willing to give me some contact info, please email me in private and I will of course delete your message as soon as I will have taken note of its content. Thanks.

Djizz

Yakob
01-27-13, 05:34
Thanks Angus. Astonishing that any girl would even try to ask for extra. If that's her attitude she shouldn't be in an FKK.

By the way, is Nina still at Artemis? (I will get to Berlin this year).Guys used to amsterdam red light district may have experiences of being ljmited to 1 position and have to negotiate more than 1 sex position. So to have many sex positions as you can habdle in the time is worth joting for smome people. I hope this gives context of why it is important

Vitrea
01-27-13, 05:48
It's possible, but no chance of smoking that stuff in the rooms.

The chances are higher with clubs along the Dutch boarder. GT; PHG; VV; YY where they have outside cabins to smoke.I fully agree that the NRW clubs and YY has more chances due to them close to the legal Mecca but I have to disagree that you can't smoke in the rooms. If you are smooth about it most girls will find a way to either help you smoke or smoke with you. Of course you need a room with a window. I have smoked with girls in GT, LR, VV, Oase and World. Note that I don't go over board and just take couple of hits. Most commonly I bring my stuff from.

AMS but I have had girls at GT hook me up.

Samplerr
01-27-13, 12:14
I fully agree that the NRW clubs and YY has more chances due to them close to the legal Mecca but I have to disagree that you can't smoke in the rooms. If you are smooth about it most girls will find a way to either help you smoke or smoke with you. Of course you need a room with a window. I have smoked with girls in GT, LR, VV, Oase and World.Agreed. I've smoked inside World, Oase and Globe, even in windowless rooms. The girl just sprayed a lot of air freshener afterwards. In all cases it was the girl who suggested smoking a spliff (s).

The garden in Oase or World is well suited to a discrete smoke at night.

Free Dude
01-27-13, 16:01
Being Dutch, you wouldn't believe how many girls' eyes light up and ask me if I 'brought something'. In most cases they are perplexed when I tall them I don't actually smoke weed every day; or hardly ever really.

Ortos
01-27-13, 17:41
Of course you need a room with a window. I have smoked with girls in GT, LR, VV, Oase and World. Note that I don't go over board and just take couple of hits.And which Zimmer at Oase has a window, one must ask? Maybe you mean the tents outside?

At World, the upstairs bathroom has window. At Oase / Palace, I would use the toilets downstairs / upstairs, which are windowless.

Best Technique for Toking in a Windoless Room / Chamber: Bring a small hash-pipe and do "micro-hits" (I. E. Putting just enough weed / hash in the bowl to produce less than a lung-full of smoke) , you will get virtually no ambient smoke to fill the room / toilet chamber. Thus no or very little tell-tale smoke smell. Exhale into a damp towel (as in towelling off after a shower) and the damp fabric will absorb most of the smoke in your lungs. It works for me.

Ibn Buttita
01-27-13, 18:04
During my virgin Saunaclub / FKK session (my first p4p fuck for that matter) at Yin Yang back in 2007 the girl, a cute, petite Romanian or Hungarian Roma, invited me to join her in a toke. The room opened up to a narrow concrete pathway around the building so we sat out there for a few minutes and had a joint. So if the layout of the club hasn't changed that could be an option. At the time I worried that the girl's using the weed was a commentary on my performance! The closest thing to happen since was when a girl at Magnum asked if she could do some coke in the room during a break in our session; I said no and she was cool about it.


It's possible, but no chance of smoking that stuff in the rooms.

The chances are higher with clubs along the Dutch boarder. GT; PHG; VV; YY where they have outside cabins to smoke.

Yakob
01-28-13, 01:13
Being Dutch, you wouldn't believe how many girls' eyes light up and ask me if I 'brought something'. In most cases they are perplexed when I tall them I don't actually smoke weed every day; or hardly ever really.Girls stereotype.

Yakob
01-28-13, 01:15
At World, the upstairs bathroom has window.The VIP rooms at World at the main bar level have windows / slide doors that open out to the garden.

PhiliPuki
01-28-13, 09:25
Being Dutch, you wouldn't believe how many girls' eyes light up and ask me if I 'brought something'.Would this be an indication that FKK girls are pot heads?

Finite
01-28-13, 23:18
I fully agree that the NRW clubs and YY has more chances due to them close to the legal Mecca but I have to disagree that you can't smoke in the rooms. If you are smooth about it most girls will find a way to either help you smoke or smoke with you. Of course you need a room with a window. I have smoked with girls in GT, LR, VV, Oase and World. Note that I don't go over board and just take couple of hits. Most commonly I bring my stuff from.

AMS but I have had girls at GT hook me up.Never asked for it, and never been offered any illegal stuff in the only FKK, I have visited. I have however smoked regular cigarettes after sex in Artemis, where many of the rooms have windows.

Free Dude
01-29-13, 01:13
Would this be an indication that FKK girls are pot heads?Well. I would say this means all 20 somethings are potheads (I get a similar reaction from non working girls). I know exactly 1 girl that said she didn't want to smoke, so she didn't like Amsterdam that much when she visited with her friends. German girls are most likely to start about the daily smoking; but that is also because German girls are most like 'normal girls' you meet outside the club. But don't fool yourself: many girls in FKK like to drink the alcohol, smoke the weed and powder the nose. Many don't mind sharing the info either.

PhiliPuki
01-29-13, 03:08
Well. I would say this means all 20 somethings are potheads (I get a similar reaction from non working girls). I know exactly 1 girl that said she didn't want to smoke, so she didn't like Amsterdam that much when she visited with her friends. German girls are most likely to start about the daily smoking; but that is also because German girls are most like 'normal girls' you meet outside the club. But don't fool yourself: many girls in FKK like to drink the alcohol, smoke the weed and powder the nose. Many don't mind sharing the info either.Maybe I could use (if you don't mind FD.),"I am Dutch" to the girls for some hotel room action? Now that would be sweeet. Alot of girls use hotels close to the Club, esp if Club is far from city.

Meeps77
01-29-13, 03:20
But don't fool yourself: many girls in FKK like to drink the alcohol, smoke the weed and powder the nose. Many don't mind sharing the info either.This is very, very true.

PhiliPuki
01-29-13, 03:23
Guys,

Your thoughts on using a money belt instead of the Club locker.

Has anyone seen guys with belts around their waist walking around the club?

Will management allow it?

Link: http://www.amazon.com/Under-Garment-Money-Belt-Black/dp/B000E6IEZS/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1359425824&sr=8-8&keywords=money+belt.

(clubs may have cameras on lockers, however by the time thief is chased down and money retrieved, if at all, I'd have left Germany)

PhiliPuki

PhiliPuki
01-29-13, 03:35
a girl at Magnum asked if she could do some coke in the room during a break in our session; I said no and she was cool about it.You should have let her snort the coke, wait a while then have a 2 hr session with her.

Indi Companion
01-29-13, 10:21
This is very, very true.Yes definetly absolutely true. It happens to me regularly that the girls smoke or powder their noses in the room. I must also say that this happens to me much more frequentely in NRW clubs than in FRA clubs.

The Cane
01-29-13, 12:14
You should have let her snort the coke, wait a while then have a 2 hr session with her.I was with a girl in Spain once. After we had straight sex, she wanted to snort some coke and offered me some. I don't do that shit. I don't do any kind of drugs, but I don't care if they do. As long as it doesn't mess up my session, I don't care. The girl snorted a line. Then I fucked her deep in her asshoe. She had her drug. Then, I had "my drug" too. It was good.

Meeps77
01-29-13, 18:17
Yes definetly absolutely true. It happens to me regularly that the girls smoke or powder their noses in the room. I must also say that this happens to me much more frequentely in NRW clubs than in FRA clubs.I don't criticize them for it. If I had to blow old man cock for a living I'd have a substance addiction instead of my sex addiction.

Angus Magee
01-29-13, 18:30
I was with a girl in Spain once. After we had straight sex, she wanted to snort some coke and offered me some. I don't do that shit. I don't do any kind of drugs, but I don't care if they do. As long as it doesn't mess up my session, I don't care. The girl snorted a line. Then I fucked her deep in her asshoe. She had her drug. Then, I had "my drug" too. It was good.You should have asked for some to sprinkle in her butt hole. I hear this is how girls in porn take a serious pounding. In any case anal infusion of any drug (suppository) is a quick way to ingest anything.

AM

Ibn Buttita
01-29-13, 22:11
You should have asked for some to sprinkle in her butt hole. I hear this is how girls in porn take a serious pounding. In any case anal infusion of any drug (suppository) is a quick way to ingest anything.
You should have let her snort the coke, wait a while then have a 2 hr session with her.Damn, maybe I should have! I didn't want to mess with her performance (wasn't sure what the stuff would do) since she had been very hot to that point, and plus I didn't want any problems with club management (though not sure how that would happen). A Hungarian spinner I sessioned with that night at Magnum was definitely on something, she was the absolute craziest girl I ever met in a club, just completely out of control.

Finite
01-29-13, 22:28
You should have asked for some to sprinkle in her butt hole. I hear this is how girls in porn take a serious pounding. In any case anal infusion of any drug (suppository) is a quick way to ingest anything.

AMSpain is great, however I got a rim- and blowjob with two girls + the usual "coca cola", and my ass is still strictly a no entrance. And there was no serious pounding after the drugs had effect, too much of the powder gets me soft.

Ableyone
01-29-13, 23:42
Your thoughts on using a money belt instead of the Club locker.Where would you put it when you shower?

Scott79
01-30-13, 00:08
Where would you put it when you shower?You can put it somewhere where it doesn't get wet and in the same time you can see it all the time.

PhiliPuki
01-30-13, 10:47
Where would you put it when you shower?
You can put it somewhere where it doesn't get wet and in the same time you can see it all the time.I hang it over the shower taps as I am showering.

I could wear it inside my towel while I am on the hunt.

No need to go to locker with girl after session.

I think its a workable plan.

Hessen Bub
02-02-13, 15:39
No need to go to locker with girl after session.Why worry about a bag? Keep your money in the locker and the key around your wrist, and you can fuck, shower, go to the sauna and there's nothing to forget. Money in lockers at FKK clubs doesn't get stolen. As long as you keep the locker locked.

HB

Angus Magee
02-02-13, 16:44
I think its a workable plan.Sure it is workable but why and what is the advantage? As HB notes, money does not get stolen in an FKK locker that is kept locked. The lockers are in high traffic areas with security cameras trained on them. The only two scenarios I see for theft is a good lock picker or a crow bar. Both scenarios have the distinct disadvantage of having to pull off the caper in an area with constant traffic. So I think we can say with near 100% certainty that unless you leave your locker open, your money will remain in the locker.

The money belt, well, I can imagine a number of scenarios in which it can become separated from your waist and disappear. So what is the possible advantage?

But, if you insist, go for it. No one is likely to stop you or say you can not keep your money this way.

AM

Trans Atlantic
02-03-13, 04:48
Money belt = solution to a non-existent problem.

What else are you going to include in there? Identification, smart phone, ATM card, car keys?

PhiliPuki
02-03-13, 11:52
HB / AM,

Fair enough, you make good points. I'll just bring enough money to the club for the days activities and leave it in locker.

Cheers

Shark16
02-03-13, 13:43
This is a FAQ, and here is the answer from Google Maps on a lazy Sunday afternoon:

1. Palace 13 mnts
2. Sharks 17 mnts
3. Mainhattan 18 mnts
4. Oase 25 mnts
5. World 42 mnts

So for all you guys in a hurry, there you go!

Some notes:
- I think most will find taxi fares to World too steep and not recommended (at least you need to negotiate a fixed price). The others are manageable by taxi by most of us. Still, don't forget the excellent PT options (when you can manage the extra travelling time and/or are on a tight budget).
- By experience I would say that you are more likely to experience some sort of traffic delays the closer to downtown you travel. I remember more than often a taxi to Palace would take closer to 20 mnts, while I rarely spend more than 25 mnts to Oase. I think the recent discussion in the Mainhattan thread pretty much confirms this.

Cheers,
S16
Who still finds rental car the best option, and best value for money in a FKK the further away from FRA ...

Frej Of Asgaard
02-16-13, 21:03
Guys,

Your thoughts on using a money belt instead of the Club locker.

Has anyone seen guys with belts around their waist walking around the club?

Will management allow it?

Link:

http://www.amazon.com/Under-Garment-Money-Belt-Black/dp/B000E6IEZS/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1359425824&sr=8-8&keywords=money

+belt.

(clubs may have cameras on lockers, however by the time thief is chased down and money retrieved, if at all, I'd have left Germany)

PhiliPukiMy thoughts.

Seen fromt he front this might be mistaken for a male **** instead of a money belt, and some of the girls might worry, that a guy wearing a **** at a FKK is seriously "kinky" and better be avoided. Others might just say that "****" and "Mama spanking" costs extra.

*apologizes* Sorry, could not help myself from blurting that out!

Eeyore
02-23-13, 21:50
I've spent literally hours on here searching how to get a new thread going for an FKK that has received multiple reviews. It looks like I still screwed it up. I made three attempts, based on what I read and what others have done, but they still did not quite conform to the rules. I entered in things like they should have been, so I thought.

If you could put in the FAQ what is needed to qualify as a new FKK, how one puts it forward after a report, and how one adds a thread-even if by a link-then that would be appreciated.

Neutron Flux
02-23-13, 23:52
Maybe you could specify what the problem is, and what you mean by "does not conform to style"? Your threads are there. Just add the content you like to the starting post. You could add earlier reports simply by "add report" as in the other threads.

SwingerLover
02-25-13, 03:21
Did you actually write something when you started the thread? Or only added the thread with just the headline and no additional text?

I had no trouble with the threads I started in the Germany Partytreff Clubs forum. I clicked on "Add new thread" and then proceeded as if I would simply add a new report. Worked just fine.

Kirk Lazarus
02-26-13, 14:44
Are the use of cellphones or iPads allowed in FKKs? Rather than bringing a newspaper or magazine to kill time between sessions, I was thinking of surfing the Internet on my ipad or phone. Since I spend most of the day at FKK, I want to be able to make calls if needed. I wonder if these devices are allowed since they have the ability to take pictures (which I don't intend to).

Trans Atlantic
02-26-13, 20:58
Are the use of cellphones or iPads allowed in FKKs? Rather than bringing a newspaper or magazine to kill time between sessions, I was thinking of surfing the Internet on my ipad or phone. Since I spend most of the day at FKK, I want to be able to make calls if needed. I wonder if these devices are allowed since they have the ability to take pictures (which I don't intend to).Depends on the place and where you aim the thing.

I've used iphone at Villa Vertigo, GoldenTime, and Aca without issues. All three have WiFi.

FKK Harmony in Hamburg has WiFi but bartender told me no cell phone allowed.

Eeyore
02-26-13, 22:51
Hi,

I started to and then when I went to save it, I couldn't see it in forum with the other threads, so I started over again. How do I delete the extra ones?


Did you actually write something when you started the thread? Or only added the thread with just the headline and no additional text?

I had no trouble with the threads I started in the Germany Partytreff Clubs forum. I clicked on "Add new thread" and then proceeded as if I would simply add a new report. Worked just fine.

SwingerLover
02-27-13, 09:17
How do I delete the extra ones?You go to your report, then click on "Report post" in the bottom left corner of your post. Then you click on "Delete my report" in the menue and write as a comment that you made a mistake and want the post deleted and the entire thread along with it.

Hessen Bub
02-27-13, 10:15
Are the use of cellphones or iPads allowed in FKKs? Rather than bringing a newspaper or magazine to kill time between sessions, I was thinking of surfing the Internet on my ipad or phone. Since I spend most of the day at FKK, I want to be able to make calls if needed. I wonder if these devices are allowed since they have the ability to take pictures (which I don't intend to).Cellphones and tablets with cameras are allowed in most (all?) NRW clubs. I've used both at Aca, GT, VV, LR, PHG. May vary from club to club.

Oase will allow use of mobiles and tablets in the garden. No mobiles inside. I did use an iPad1 without camera and an ereader without camera inside, no problems. Also used an iPad with camera inside, no problems.

World / Palace / Mainhattan / Sharks: No mobiles in the club. They are very strict about it. I did use an iPad with camera in all of these clubs, but you might be asked to put it away. Ereadera or tablets without camera shouln't be a problem.

HB

UltraHappy
03-06-13, 02:00
Cellphones and tablets with cameras are allowed in most (all?) NRW clubs. I've used both at Aca, GT, VV, LR, PHG. May vary from club to club.

Oase will allow use of mobiles and tablets in the garden. No mobiles inside. I did use an iPad1 without camera and an ereader without camera inside, no problems. Also used an iPad with camera inside, no problems.

World / Palace / Mainhattan / Sharks: No mobiles in the club. They are very strict about it. I did use an iPad with camera in all of these clubs, but you might be asked to put it away. Ereadera or tablets without camera shouln't be a problem.

HBAs far as Oase goes though, I never knew about this rule. I've been there dozens and dozens of time and I have my cell phone with me quite frequently. I show the girls photos or read stuff on my phone all the time in the club. No one has ever stated this rule to me nor has anyone ever bothered me about using my phone in the club. So, maybe this is "technically" a rule at Oase, but I've never heard of it nor have I ever experienced it.

I do remember Sharks being very strict about cell phones in the club. The receptionist was very clear about this recently when I paid, repeatedly telling me that no cell phones at all in the club (only allowed in the locker room and in the reception area).

Banana Boi
03-06-13, 03:55
Cellphones and tablets with cameras are allowed in most (all?) NRW clubs. I've used both at Aca, GT, VV, LR, PHG. May vary from club to club.I've seen a guy blatantly videotaping a girl dancing at the pole at ACA. Must have taped her for 2-3 minutes before anyone said anything. Within a minute after his warning he went back to videotaping! lol

Hessen Bub
03-06-13, 09:35
As far as Oase goes though, I never knew about this rule. I've been there dozens and dozens of time and I have my cell phone with me quite frequently. I show the girls photos or read stuff on my phone all the time in the club. No one has ever stated this rule to me nor has anyone ever bothered me about using my phone in the club. So, maybe this is "technically" a rule at Oase, but I've never heard of it nor have I ever experienced it.I do check e-mails in the club as well, and I have shown pictures to the girls as well. Maybe the are not as strict as they have been years ago, good for us.

HB

Apache7633
03-18-13, 21:01
BBFS at Palace. What was I thinking? Wonder how safe it is. Please tell!

Ossian
03-20-13, 02:27
You seem to be posting quiet a bit about your episode of BBFS.

If I were you and as concerned as you say you are, I would get the matter checked out at a clinic / hospital.

I think that is a more practical way of dealing with this issue rather than posting about it here in the Germany FKK Clubs ISG Section.

If you really must post about this episode, I suggest you post in the Safe Sex Section of ISG where this can be discussed in minute detail if you so wish.

I wish you the best of luck. You may need it.

Sucker17
03-20-13, 21:02
I wonder if any of the Düsseldorf clubs like LR, DV, ACA, Magnum are closed 1st of April, or is it business as usual during Easter?

Indi Companion
03-20-13, 21:19
I wonder if any of the Düsseldorf clubs like LR, DV, ACA, Magnum are closed 1st of April, or is it business as usual during Easter?Business as usual, at least GT, LR, PHG and VV but should not be different for ACA and Magnum.

Yakob
03-20-13, 21:25
I wonder if any of the Düsseldorf clubs like LR, DV, ACA, Magnum are closed 1st of April, or is it business as usual during Easter?Business as usual during Easter for these particular clubs except LR may opwn at 1pm instead of 11am.

Apache7633
03-21-13, 18:22
You seem to be posting quiet a bit about your episode of BBFS.

If I were you and as concerned as you say you are, I would get the matter checked out at a clinic / hospital.

I think that is a more practical way of dealing with this issue rather than posting about it here in the Germany FKK Clubs ISG Section.

If you really must post about this episode, I suggest you post in the Safe Sex Section of ISG where this can be discussed in minute detail if you so wish.

I wish you the best of luck. You may need it.Do you mean to say that places like these are not safe?

Basmobile
03-21-13, 20:00
Hi,

I am passing through Frankfort, Landing at 5:00 am and flying out at 2 pm. Are there any FKK clubs near the airport open in the morning?

Thanks

Yakob
03-22-13, 09:02
Hi,

I am passing through Frankfort, Landing at 5:00 am and flying out at 2 pm. Are there any FKK clubs near the airport open in the morning?

ThanksMainhattan in Frankfurt Ost opens at 11am and Palace in Hausen which is north of Frankfurt centre opens at 10am. Palace has the business man deal where you pay 75 euro entry and if you leave within 2 hours you receive 25 euro back making entry effectively 50 euro. Make sure you tell reception you want the business man special since they give you a different wrist tag to the normal full price wrist tag to distinquish you. Mainhattan has the entry price of 45 euro before 1pm and 45 euro if before 5pm on a Monday but you do are allowed beer drinks included so you must pay 4 euro per beer during your stay. If you want beer during your stay at Mainhattan then enntry is 60 euro.

Actually in terms of time but not distance I have found that Sharks is relatively close to the airport since you can see the motherfuckers fly over the club or as I drive down the A5 to Sharks. Sharks entry is 65 euro. It is known. So you can swap quicker time to get to the club than distance in this case.

Yakob
03-22-13, 09:03
BBFS at Palace. What was I thinking? Wonder how safe it is. Please tell!Who was the girl that you had sex with no condom with or did she just suck your cock with no condom and how much did it cost extra whether it was sex no condom or blowjob no condom?

Otto
03-22-13, 10:22
Hi,

I am passing through Frankfort, Landing at 5:00 am and flying out at 2 pm. Are there any FKK clubs near the airport open in the morning?

ThanksI would propose to book a girl which has her own appartement. For a morning session instead of hectically running through clubs which are pretty empty in the late morning.

Basmobile
03-22-13, 10:59
Mainhattan in Frankfurt Ost opens at 11am and Palace in Hausen which is north of Frankfurt centre opens at 10am. Palace has the business man deal where you pay 75 euro entry and if you leave within 2 hours you receive 25 euro back making entry effectively 50 euro. Make sure you tell reception you want the business man special since they give you a different wrist tag to the normal full price wrist tag to distinquish you. Mainhattan has the entry price of 45 euro before 1pm and 45 euro if before 5pm on a Monday but you do are allowed beer drinks included so you must pay 4 euro per beer during your stay. If you want beer during your stay at Mainhattan then enntry is 60 euro.

Actually in terms of time but not distance I have found that Sharks is relatively close to the airport since you can see the motherfuckers fly over the club or as I drive down the A5 to Sharks. Sharks entry is 65 euro. It is known. So you can swap quicker time to get to the club than distance in this case.Thanks Yakob, which one do you suggest and what do I tell a taxi to get there? Are they open on a Sunday morning? It is my first time to such clubs, so any information is highly appreciated.

Apache7633
03-22-13, 19:11
Who was the girl that you had sex with no condom with or did she just suck your cock with no condom and how much did it cost extra whether it was sex no condom or blowjob no condom?Cost 100 euro for bb fuck.

Apache7633
03-22-13, 19:16
BBFS at FKK Palace.

On my recent first visit to FKK Palace I got sucked in by the beauty on display and ended up having BBFS. What was I thinking? Obviously I was so mesemerized that I wasnt thinking. Now I am scared shitless. Are these places really safe as they claim to be? I had lost my mind and senses but how about the brazilian girl? Had she lost it too? Looking for advise from experienced mongers, especially visitors of FKK clubs in Germany.

Big Daddy 1906
03-28-13, 07:58
I have a 24 hour lay over coming up in Frankfurt and will be staying at one of the hotels by the airport. Which FKK would one recommend for a first timer? I've also RTFF but have not found a clear answer to my other question which is, do they take credit cards? Thanks.

CaptCabins
03-28-13, 11:59
BBFS at FKK Palace.

On my recent first visit to FKK Palace I got sucked in by the beauty on display and ended up having BBFS. What was I thinking? Obviously I was so mesemerized that I wasnt thinking. Now I am scared shitless. Are these places really safe as they claim to be? I had lost my mind and senses but how about the brazilian girl? Had she lost it too? Looking for advise from experienced mongers, especially visitors of FKK clubs in Germany.Fkk is an international brothel. Men from India, Balkans, USA, Korea and Thais visits the hooker there. You met a hooker who obviously does not care about her health.

Chances are:

1) She already has some incurable disease so things could not get any worse so she won't care what happens as long as she makes money to cover her medial treatment.

Did you show palace you medical status certificate? If not then so do other mongers as well as the girls. This place is not safe is a brothel and you just fucked a prostitute who doesn't care if you wear the rubber. You should be very afraid.

Angus Magee
03-28-13, 12:13
I have a 24 hour lay over coming up in Frankfurt and will be staying at one of the hotels by the airport. Which FKK would one recommend for a first timer? I've also RTFF but have not found a clear answer to my other question which is, do they take credit cards? Thanks.I think you need to give a few more details about when you make this stop over-time of day you arrive & leave, day of the week-for some one to give a god recommendation. For instance, Oase is quite doable in this time frame but it really depends when you arrive and leave if it is worth making the trip which is a reasonably long one. Palace is the obvious choice logistically but may not be the best for a first time at an FKK.

As for credit, you can use it to pay the entry at a big FKK but not to pay the girls unless you take cash advances. But the club will hit you with a big charge for this. In Europe merchants are not as enthusiastic about paying the percentage to the credit companies and really pass this on to you and then some. Better to get you cash in order before you arrive at the FKK.

AM

Optimist
03-28-13, 14:14
In addition some clubs will require a copy of your passport!

EastGoing
03-28-13, 16:16
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY AM:
As for credit, you can use it to pay the entry at a big FKK but not to pay the girls unless you take cash advances. But the club will hit you with a big charge for this. In Europe merchants are not as enthusiastic about paying the percentage to the credit companies and really pass this on to you and then some.

I paid the entrance at Artemis by credit card. At reception nobody complained or said anything, the receipt shows the correct amount and the "temporary" billings I can visualize on internet state 80 euros Artemis. The only "strange" thing I can notice is that they came out truly as Artemis, I remember that similar kind of places, for instance in Holland and Spain, years ago used to actually come out with "innocent clueless" names, to protect your privacy about going there.

Apache, what is done is done, you keep on posting in all threads the same thing. If this can be of help to you, read the AO section and ask SwingerLover or others about their opinions and advices. Maybe by PM they will even give you their secret recipe. I hope I gave you a good suggestion, I'm sure you'll feel better and have some relief

Angus Magee
03-28-13, 16:44
BBFS at FKK Palace.

On my recent first visit to FKK Palace I got sucked in by the beauty on display and ended up having BBFS. What was I thinking? Obviously I was so mesemerized that I wasnt thinking. Now I am scared shitless. Are these places really safe as they claim to be? I had lost my mind and senses but how about the brazilian girl? Had she lost it too? Looking for advise from experienced mongers, especially visitors of FKK clubs in Germany.Get tested, quit bragging, move on to some other topic or to the AO threads where they like to talk about it.

AM

Dreams
03-28-13, 20:21
Get tested, quit bragging, move on to some other topic or to the AO threads where they like to talk about it.

AMNo, this is just the opposite: no need to talk about this in an AO thread, where by definition, people have already made their mind.

Angus Magee
03-28-13, 20:31
No, this is just the opposite: no need to talk about this in an AO thread, where by definition, people have already made their mind.Fair enough, I was just trying to send him somewhere else. Can't blame me for trying.

Truth is I do not believe a word of the story, A relative newbie wanders into Palace and fuck a hot brazilian bare back for relatively little cash. Yeah, that is high likely.

AM

Ossian
03-28-13, 22:00
Truth is I do not believe a word of the story, A relative newbie wanders into Palace and fuck a hot brazilian bare back for relatively little cash. Yeah, that is high likely.Considering the professional disposition of most of the women working in Palace, I would have to say that I am very much in agreement with Angus Magee.

London Traveller
03-29-13, 00:45
I have a 24 hour lay over coming up in Frankfurt and will be staying at one of the hotels by the airport. Which FKK would one recommend for a first timer? I've also RTFF but have not found a clear answer to my other question which is, do they take credit cards? Thanks.Go to Oase and have a good time! Palace is full of sharks, Mainhattan is too small, Sharks is too boring and World is too far away.

Ossian
03-29-13, 02:00
Go to Oase and have a good time! Palace is full of sharks, Mainhattan is too small, Sharks is too boring and World is too far away.While I do agree that FKK OASE is indeed the most ideal choice, I would have to say that if travelling to OASE is not a possability, I would not discount travelling to either FKK PALACE or FKK MAINHATTAN. Certainly the girls in FKK PALACE can be that bit more sharky and the customer must be on guard for this. However, having said this I would rather visit FKK PALACE than not visit any FKK club at all. Same goes for FKK MAINHATTAN, although the girls are not noted particularly for their sharkiness (if this is a word!) and this club is smaller than any of the others mentioned, still better to visit FKK MAINHATTAN than not visit an FKK at all. Last choice is FKK SHARKS which is not so busy (I. E. Line-up quantity / quality can be hit or miss) except possibly on Friday and Saturday (possibly also on Thursday). Yet again better to visit FKK SHARKS than no FKK club at all. So to recap, my pick would be as follows FKK OASE (No. 1 choice) , FKK PALACE or FKK MAINHATTAN (depending on whether you can cope with a tougher attitude of the girls in PALACE or not) and finally FKK SHARKS as last choice.

Dreams
03-29-13, 11:24
Fair enough, I was just trying to send him somewhere else. Can't blame me for trying.

Truth is I do not believe a word of the story, A relative newbie wanders into Palace and fuck a hot brazilian bare back for relatively little cash. Yeah, that is high likely.

AMThanks for trying to send this time waster to others! But, yes, I can't blame you to be wanting tho get rid of him.

I don't know if I believe his story or not, but I think it is not impossible (and has already been reproted here and elsewhere) that a small minority of girls offer BB in big non AO clubs.

Hessen Bub
03-29-13, 11:42
Quite a few girls offer BB in any club. But a stunning Brasilian at Palace to a newbie at no / low extra cost? Hard to believe.

HB

Angus Magee
03-29-13, 12:55
Quite a few girls offer BB in any club.I do not dispute the availability of BB in the big clubs. What I am suspicious of is that I can not imagine it is causally offered to a guy who the girl does not know and who is new to the club. I could be wrong but offering BB seems risky (aside from the health risk) because if the guy balks at paying what recourse would the girl have? She could not take the complaint to management could she. In any case maybe the guy did get it. If that is the case he needs to just move on and not keep posting about it here wringing his hands and crying. What I suspect is he is just trying for attention so I will give no more to him.

AM

Ossian
03-29-13, 13:01
Quite a few girls offer BB in any club. But a stunning Brasilian at Palace to a newbie at no / low extra cost? Hard to believe.Working Girls tend to offer BB to regular clients, particularly if these clients are good and regular payers. In order to keep a good customer the WG will sometimes offer this special service. It is not usual for this service to be openly offered in the larger clubs. You either need to openly seek this service (by talking to the WGs in private I. E. As part of your WG interview process) or you might be offered this service (by a WG with whom you are familiar) in order to keep you as a customer.

Free Dude
03-29-13, 15:06
In my experience this whole AO thing is really becoming more and more prevalent. The amount of offers I've had (in non-AO clubs) this year is quite astonishing if I compare it to earlier years; which doesn't mean it happens every time or anything, but the difference to earlier years is big. For 2013 I can add the following surprising info: the kind of club doesn't matter, it has happened in big Hessen clubs, big NRW clubs and small NRW clubs (this covers pretty much all the clubs I visit) ; girls have offered it upfront, during sex with condom and have even just stuck the damn thing in there. Eventhough I never went through with it, none of the girl ever indicated extra pay was expected. And more surprisingly, all were first time bookings.

Hessen Bub
03-29-13, 15:24
It's not a new trend. It's been like this for years. Girls offering BB for various reasons without demanding extra money, on a first booking, after repeated bookings. Maybe they enjoy the session and forget the condom. Maybe the want to secure moneystreams from regular guests. Maybe they are unaware of the risks. Maybe they think the guy looks clean it should be alright. Maybe some do charge extra. I don't know. This topic has been up to discussion ever so often on various boards over the last years. And it's not the ugly old women having no business offering BB.

It's not a topic for a public board if you add names to it. Will get girls in trouble: a) stupid idiots asking openly for that service be) clubs throwing girls (and customers) out.

Months ago I was sitting in Oase's cinema, on the sofa in front of me was an American guy. Within 30min he was approached by minimum 15 girls, talking to them, leaning towards them and whispering something jn their ear. They ALL left him shortly after. Why? Because he asked for BB service. Two girls told me when passing by. I didn't see him go to the room that day. So asking openly doesn't seem to be the right "strategy" if you are looking for BB sex.

HB

London Traveller
03-29-13, 17:00
In my experience this whole AO thing is really becoming more and more prevalent. The amount of offers I've had (in non-AO clubs) this year is quite astonishing if I compare it to earlier years; which doesn't mean it happens every time or anything, but the difference to earlier years is big. For 2013 I can add the following surprising info: the kind of club doesn't matter, it has happened in big Hessen clubs, big NRW clubs and small NRW clubs (this covers pretty much all the clubs I visit) ; girls have offered it upfront, during sex with condom and have even just stuck the damn thing in there. Eventhough I never went through with it, none of the girl ever indicated extra pay was expected. And more surprisingly, all were first time bookings.It must be because you are a handsome hunk and the girls fancy you. It has never happened to me. In fact I have the opposite problem, some girls refuse to let me take them to a room to just do the usual stuff.

Free Dude
03-29-13, 17:16
It must be because you are a handsome hunk and the girls fancy you. It has never happened to me. In fact I have the opposite problem, some girls refuse to let me take them to a room to just do the usual stuff.Yes, that must be it. I know this thing has been happening forever, but it seems to have become much more common lately. I've been noticing it, people that I know (very regular clubvisitors) have mentioned the same thing, more and more clubs are openly advocating it. Remember when the Bernd's bonus was considered something special and we only knew about Dolce Vita Raubach and Laluna as real AO places. That's how I remember the scene a couple of years back. Now there is the whole Vila Venus, Arabella, Grimberg clubs that have recently added Alina and have taken over Dietzenbach. Also clubs like Angelique, Cleopatra Arena and many other PT's that are openly AO. In addition I notice that boards that used to be strictly anti AO, have more and more reports on these clubs and discussions about AO are ever more focused on the relative small risks.

I'm just saying that in my experience it has become more mainstream on all fronts. HB is right though, all offers of AO have been with girls I had good to great chemistry with. And I agree, that one should not mention names and clubs in these public discussions.

Ossian
03-29-13, 18:07
Months ago I was sitting in Oase's cinema, on the sofa in front of me was an American guy. Within 30min he was approached by minimum 15 girls, talking to them, leaning towards them and whispering something jn their ear. They ALL left him shortly after. Why? Because he asked for BB service. Two girls told me when passing by. I didn't see him go to the room that day. So asking openly doesn't seem to be the right "strategy" if you are looking for BB sex.Agreed! The subject needs to be broached very carefully if at all. Better for to have BB offered (by the WG) and accepted than sought (by the client) and refused.

UltraHappy
03-29-13, 19:42
In my experience this whole AO thing is really becoming more and more prevalent. The amount of offers I've had (in non-AO clubs) this year is quite astonishing if I compare it to earlier years; which doesn't mean it happens every time or anything, but the difference to earlier years is big. For 2013 I can add the following surprising info: the kind of club doesn't matter, it has happened in big Hessen clubs, big NRW clubs and small NRW clubs (this covers pretty much all the clubs I visit) ; girls have offered it upfront, during sex with condom and have even just stuck the damn thing in there. Eventhough I never went through with it, none of the girl ever indicated extra pay was expected. And more surprisingly, all were first time bookings.
It's not a new trend. It's been like this for years. Girls offering BB for various reasons without demanding extra money, on a first booking, after repeated bookings.

Months ago I was sitting in Oase's cinema, on the sofa in front of me was an American guy. Within 30min he was approached by minimum 15 girls, talking to them, leaning towards them and whispering something jn their ear. They ALL left him shortly after. Why? Because he asked for BB service. Two girls told me when passing by. I didn't see him go to the room that day. So asking openly doesn't seem to be the right "strategy" if you are looking for BB sex.

HBI find Free Dude's experience perplexing since no WGs have ever offered me BB, ever. Not once. And I've been with quite a number of WGs in quite a number of clubs. I've gotten to know many girls quite well since I repeat often with the same girls over and over again.

This makes me wonder why girls are offering this to other guys and not me. Now, I have absolutely no interest in AO and would absolutely refuse if ever offered. But, this reminds me of a TV show where one guy later learns as an adult that the school coach molested the other boys in gym class years ago during high school. That guy then wonders why the coach didn't molest him? Is there something wrong with him? So, the guy later visits the coach to try to find out why the coach didn't molest him during high school. Kind of a funny show, I forget the name of it.

In any case, I've been with a ton of girls at most of the big clubs and no girl has ever offered this to me. On the bright side, I do usually get good services from the girls, at least compared to the reported experiences with the same girls.

Now there were two different times when girls were getting too close to me in a cowgirl position without a raincoat in place. I remember tensing up (which they sensed) and holding them so they couldn't make contact downstairs. I remember even explaining to them that we couldn't touch down there without a cover in place because I didn't want there to be any confusion on this point. So maybe in these two instances, things might have progressed to AO if I had let it. But, I have no death wish (or I at least value my health). Still, I've received no verbal offers for AO. Maybe I don't reach far enough down the barrel so-to-speak? I pick only the top girls (at least IMO) these days. I also avoid AO clubs. I figure if the girls are doing AO, that just increases the risk for me, even if I'm wearing a cover (covers break, aren't a 100, etc).

Frankly, I'm quite puzzled here.

CaptCabins
03-30-13, 01:39
This makes me wonder why girls are offering this to other guys and not me. Now, I have absolutely no interest in AO and would absolutely refuse if ever offered. But, this reminds me of a TV show where one guy later learns as an adult that the school coach molested the other boys in gym class years ago during high school. That guy then wonders why the coach didn't molest him? Is there something wrong with him? So, the guy later visits the coach to try to find out why the coach didn't molest him during high school. Kind of a funny show, I forget the name of it.

Frankly, I'm quite puzzled here.Maybe you are not good looking enough and look like a an old men like me LOL. Just kiddin ultrahappy. Don't think too much about it as at the end of the day man like you and me are paying hookers to fuck. Keep it simple S.

Dreams
03-30-13, 11:05
I.

Frankly, I'm quite puzzled here.Don't be. Don't ask yourself too many questions.

Do as you feel, and enjoy. If you are worried going to AO clubs, don't go. If you are worried about a girls's nether regions touching yours BB, don't let her do.

Wether this is rational or not is irrelevant, if this is what you feel.

I may speculate that your "puzzling" is consecutive to some, perhaps hidden, desires to explore furtherr. But if I am wrong, then WTF?

Angus Magee
03-30-13, 11:18
Let's face it we would all fuck bare back if we were not scared of the consequences. Condoms are okay but there ain't nothing like the feeling of membrane to membrane. Aside from not visiting clubs that openly advertise AO sex all you can do is cover your unit and be as safe as possible. You just do not know what any particular girl does with another monger or in her private life. Best just not to get over worked with worry as plenty of guys visit the clubs and for the most part everything works out ok.

AM

UltraHappy
03-30-13, 13:51
Don't be. Don't ask yourself too many questions.

Do as you feel, and enjoy. If you are worried going to AO clubs, don't go. If you are worried about a girls's nether regions touching yours BB, don't let her do.

Wether this is rational or not is irrelevant, if this is what you feel.

I may speculate that your "puzzling" is consecutive to some, perhaps hidden, desires to explore furtherr. But if I am wrong, then WTF?You missed the point of my post. Let me be more clear. I have absolutely, positively no interest in AO. If offered, I will refuse. I am not curious.

What puzzles me is that Free Dude is reporting that the ladies are offering him certain services with high frequency that they are not ever offering me. If I were fat and ugly or really old, then I could explain or rationalize this difference by saying to myself,"Look, that Free Dude is a total young stud. Me, I am fat, old, and ugly. Yes, I understand why all the girls are offering him services that they aren't offering me." But, this is not the case. I am not fat. I am not particularly old. I am not ugly. Instead, I am rather fit, and while I'm not Brad Pit, I am not so ugly. I generally get good services.

So really, my only puzzlement is the fact that the girls are *reportedly* offering stuff to Free Dude that they aren't offering to me. Just imagine that the girls offered kissing to everyone except you. Wouldn't you naturally wonder,"Why the F are all the girls offering to kiss the other guys but they never offer to kiss me?" EVEN IF you had absolutely no interest in kissing, you would wonder why the girls are going around asking the other guys if they'd like to kiss all the time but never ask you the same thing.

This is my puzzlement. No big deal. Just wondering out loud. Maybe Free Dude visits a different quality of girls than I do. Maybe he goes different places than me. Maybe he looks more "safe" than me. Who knows?

CaptCabins
03-30-13, 14:18
You missed the point of my post. Let me be more clear. I have absolutely, positively no interest in AO. If offered, I will refuse. I am not curious.

What puzzles me is that Free Dude is reporting that the ladies are offering him certain services with high frequency that they are not ever offering me. If I were fat and ugly or really old, then I could explain or rationalize this difference by saying to myself,"Look, that Free Dude is a total young stud. Me, I am fat, old, and ugly. Yes, I understand why all the girls are offering him services that they aren't offering me." But, this is not the case. I am not fat. I am not particularly old. I am not ugly. Instead, I am rather fit, and while I'm not Brad Pit, I am not so ugly. I generally get good services.To you maybe you are not fat or ugly but to the girl they might see you as another thing. Anyway if you are normal and decent looking then you would not be paying for sex. Maybe free dude is a regular and maybe he splashes a lot of money in the club. So girls wants to get him to be a loyal customer a steady cash flow.

Sucker17
03-30-13, 14:26
Guys, bareback fucking. That's what GFs are for. Please leave the FAQ for more interesting issues!

SwingerLover
03-30-13, 14:38
, read the AO section and ask SwingerLover or others about their opinions and advices. Maybe by PM they will even give you their secret recipe.No need to, I've made my position clear several times. Just RTFF.


No, this is just the opposite: no need to talk about this in an AO thread, where by definition, people have already made their mind.Indeed!


Fair enough, I was just trying to send him somewhere else. Can't blame me for trying.Hahahahaha. Thumbs up! You're absolutely right. Posting his question once in the appropriate thread would have sufficed.


And I agree, that one should not mention names and clubs in these public discussions.I agree with not mentioning names, if it would get the girls in trouble. But I disagree with keeping silent about the clubs! Please do tell at which clubs (who don't advertise it openly anyway) AO is possible and where not. It's helpful to guys who want it, so they know where to look and where they needn't bother. It's helpful to guys like Ultrahappy too, to help them find or avoid. That's what a public forum is for! To share helpful information; not to deliberately avoid it. (Except if it would get the girls in trouble.)

SwingerLover
03-30-13, 15:44
Guys, bareback fucking. That's what GFs are for. Please leave the FAQ for more interesting issues!Oh, Buh-huh! Do you make room for the possibility that most guys here maybe don't have a girlfriend or wife to cheat on?


But, this reminds me of a TV show where one guy later learns as an adult that the school coach molested the other boys in gym class years ago during high school. That guy then wonders why the coach didn't molest him? Is there something wrong with him? So, the guy later visits the coach to try to find out why the coach didn't molest him during high school. Kind of a funny show, I forget the name of it.Don't you think it's slightly different if someone is molested, compared to a girl offering AO out of her own free will? And why do you complain about NOT being offered something that you don't even want in the first place? I for one am always happy if (for example) Creampie-Ronja does NOT offer to me working my ass with a dildo; I would never get the idea to complain about this fact when she offers it to other guys.


But, I have no death wish (or I at least value my health).But you don't give a flying fuck about the much greater and much, much more common dangers that come with travelling to and from the clubs. How come? Unless you live next door to an FKK, I think you will have to use cars, busses, trains, even airplanes (depending from where you are) like everybody else. Look at how many people get hurt and even killed in car-accidents. Compare that to the number of STD-cases in Germany. I really don't get it why anybody who isn't afraid to drive to an FKK for over an hour is afraid of STDs. There are also the thousands of bareback fucks presumably happening every weekend on all the disco-toilets or in the bushes behind the beer-tents at every fair, kermis and Volksfest between complete strangers, where also no one cares about so-called "protection". (Where else, if not from such and similar, do all those unwanted pregnancies in the country come from?) But when it comes to paid sex, then there is a lot of fuzz to be made about.

I always use Natascha the Gangbang Queen as another example to evaluate risk: Like Creampie-Ronja, she even sends away anybody who approaches her with a condom. She did (and propably still does) bareback mass gangbangs all over the world (from Fort Lauderdale, Texas to Phuket, Thailand and back) for decades, including bareback everybody-may-fuck-me-at-any-time summer vacations to Cap D'Agde in France, and is to my knowledge still alive, healthy and agile. About Ronja I've heard several stories too; like running around in a pedestrian zone wearing a T-Shirt that says "BAREBACKSLUT" in capitol letters on the front, in order to pick up guys to bare-fuck her in the next best porntheatre. No tests, no rubbers. Lately advertised as "no birth control" too. Another story was about an AO-Gangbang near a lake, where she not only fucked the horde that had registred for it on her website, but also called upon every random guy that passed by to barefuck her too. She is also alive, well and healthy.

I on the other hand have never travelled more than 240 km for sex at all. So why worry, in light of what I just wrote about? And yes, I've fucked both Ronja and Natascha too. Natasha once so far, at a relatively small AO-gangbang with maybe 20 guys in a porntheatre near Neuwied; Ronja twice, both times at (HIV-tested) Spermagames-AO-Gangbangs. (Reports about those can be found in the Spermagames-thread.)

So, Ultrahappy, if it makes you happy to play with condoms, be my guest. But I don't see what bareback fucking has to do with having a deathwish. In that regard I throw in the question that was already posted in another thread by someone else about the so-called risks of bareback fucking compared to the risk of getting cancer, because a lot of the girls are heavy-duty chainsmokers. About which no one cares either.

Free Dude
03-30-13, 16:51
You missed the point of my post. Let me be more clear. I have absolutely, positively no interest in AO. If offered, I will refuse. I am not curious.

What puzzles me is that Free Dude is reporting that the ladies are offering him certain services with high frequency that they are not ever offering me. If I were fat and ugly or really old, then I could explain or rationalize this difference by saying to myself,"Look, that Free Dude is a total young stud. Me, I am fat, old, and ugly. Yes, I understand why all the girls are offering him services that they aren't offering me." But, this is not the case. I am not fat. I am not particularly old. I am not ugly. Instead, I am rather fit, and while I'm not Brad Pit, I am not so ugly. I generally get good services.

So really, my only puzzlement is the fact that the girls are *reportedly* offering stuff to Free Dude that they aren't offering to me. Just imagine that the girls offered kissing to everyone except you. Wouldn't you naturally wonder,"Why the F are all the girls offering to kiss the other guys but they never offer to kiss me?" EVEN IF you had absolutely no interest in kissing, you would wonder why the girls are going around asking the other guys if they'd like to kiss all the time but never ask you the same thing.

This is my puzzlement. No big deal. Just wondering out loud. Maybe Free Dude visits a different quality of girls than I do. Maybe he goes different places than me. Maybe he looks more "safe" than me. Who knows?I wasn't planning on going into this any further, but you didn't interpret my post correctly, or maybe I wasn't clear enough. I just said it was happening more than before. I'm not going into percentages or anything, but let's say it has been 'offered' more in the last 3 months than in the two previous years; still not a 'high' frequency, but a lot 'higher' than in previous years. I don't know the reason, but I'm pretty sure it has little to do with the 'quality of girls'; and I don't really appreciate what you're trying to say here. One thing that might play a role, is that I'm not 'scared' of a pussy touching my dick. On the contrary, I enjoy a bit of dry humping or 'pussy sliding'. Maybe this gives some girls the idea I would like to fuck au naturale as well; maybe on the whole this is even true for guys who like this kind of thing, I wouldn't know. All this happens somewhere midway through a session, I've never been offered it before going to a room or before doing anything; always at the point in the sesion where the condom 'should' be introduced.


I agree with not mentioning names, if it would get the girls in trouble. But I disagree with keeping silent about the clubs! Please do tell at which clubs (who don't advertise it openly anyway) AO is possible and where not. It's helpful to guys who want it, so they know where to look and where they needn't bother. It's helpful to guys like Ultrahappy too, to help them find or avoid. That's what a public forum is for! To share helpful information; not to deliberately avoid it. (Except if it would get the girls in trouble.)I'm not so naive as to think girls 'only offer it to me', but in general I have no idea how often a girl does this or how standard it is. One thing I do know is that I would prefer for it to happen less (I happen to be prefer a situation where girls aren't pressured into thinking about offering AO). So without judging anyone who likes AO, I'm not going to give the clubs, since AO hunters might have an influence on the girls that I dislike.

Angus Magee
03-30-13, 16:52
Swinglover I do not think that the fear around bare back sex in this day and age is logical or in much proportion to the actual risks involved. But to become HIV positive (or to risk it) is way more scary to most guys not because of the death but because of the total change in circumstance that would occur in one's life should it happen. In this day and age there are plenty of diseases promoted by the media and the medical industrial complex. More than enough illness to go around I'd say. None carry quite the same social stigma though as HIV. I think it is this people react to even though it often comes out in such statements as-you have a death wish.

As I think I have said before, playing the AO game, and talking about it openly on a forum with a wide range of mongers with different degrees of risk taking tolerances, will always invite such comments. It is the nature of your involvement in the hobby in this way. You are after all one of the most prolific posters on the board currently and you post useful info for those who want what you want. Nothing wrong with that IMO.

AM

Hessen Bub
03-30-13, 17:23
nge of mongers with different degrees of risk taking tolerances, will always invite such comments. It is the nature of your involvement in the hobby in this way. You are after all one of the most prolific posters on the board currently and you post useful info for those who want what you want. Nothing wrong with that IMO.It's not only HIV, there's many other serious STDs to catch. What's the risk in a non AO club if you do AO? I have no idea.

Answering the question in which clubs can you get BB service is fairly easy: In ALL of them.

HB

SwingerLover
03-30-13, 17:40
So without judging anyone who likes AO, I'm not going to give the clubs, since AO hunters might have an influence on the girls that I dislike.Valid point and likeable self-serving statement to which I can fully relate, only from the other end. Because I don't like rubber-fuckers at a bareback orgy any more than you seem to like the girls being influenced towards AO. So I don't think we will ever meet. Happy mongering!


But to become HIV positive (or to risk it) is way more scary to most guys not because of the death but because of the total change in circumstance that would occur in one's life should it happen.True. But the results of a car accident or being attached to a respirator due to lung cancer might cause total change in circumstances as well. And maybe with no significant difference. The only difference is the awareness and the media-fueled paranoia which is responsible for a certain degree of stigmatisation.


will always invite such comments. It is the nature of your involvement in the hobby in this way.Of course it will. But I still comment back. And only comment back, instead of launching an anti-condom crusade like some people do anti-AO-propaganda. Like for instance Partytreff Mettmann or Anja's Leidenschaften in Bochum. (Both no FKKs. But someone who's so militant that she's bragging on her own website about having kicked out several guys for just ASKING about AO is someone I wouldn't even rubberfuck if it were for free!)


You are after all one of the most prolific posters on the board currently and you post useful info for those who want what you want. Nothing wrong with that IMO.Thanks. As far as I can see I can return the compliment, regarding the stuff and places you write about.


Answering the question in which clubs can you get BB service is fairly easy: In ALL of them.Okay, thanks. But my original question was intended to find places who don't openly advertise AO, but where it is still common practice without secrecy and any fallout for the girls who practice it covertly. (Uncovered sex practiced covertly; how's that for a paradox?) So if the management at Palace gives the girls a hard time for doing AO, then I'm not interested and won't put the place on my AO-map either. I was thinking more about places like DV Raubach, where I have never seen anything about AO on their website, but know from guys who'd been there that it is an AO-club. That's the kind of places I'm interested to know about.

Hessen Bub
03-30-13, 18:23
I guess all the known AO clubs have been mentioned here.

HB

EastGoing
03-30-13, 18:51
[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1404699No need to, I've made my position clear several times. Just RTFF.]

As you know, I do RTFF, and among other posts, you know I willingly read your adventures, because I somehow envy you (and other AO practitioners) for doing something I'd love and need so much but I'm afraid of (who prefers to use a condom when having sex?). Anyone can think for themselves how right or wrong that could be. In the specific case, I meant to be ironic (I'm finding out german guys have troubles spotting irony, it's not the first time I'm heavily misunderstood) , and anyway I'm positive (can't think of a better word, L-O-L!) about the fact that Apache ignored the existence of AO thread and its posters. It's no secret I'm 0 with computer and internet, in my case, when I enter the forum, I don't visualize directly the AO threads, not even by clicking "Germany" or "FKK clubs", I don't know if it's my fault. I had already been reading the forum for months before I learnt about AO, if you remember by YOU (and eventually also Dark Vader, because still I wasn't getting it!) , YOU posted the link for me! Otherwise I'd maybe never find out about AO, especially if one doesn't read the German threads. I thought it could be Apache's case too.

QUOTED by SL [But you don't give a flying fuck about the much greater and much, much more common dangers that come with travelling to and from the clubs. How come? Unless you live next door to an FKK, I think you will have to use cars, busses, trains, even airplanes (depending from where you are) like everybody else. Look at how many people get hurt and even killed in car-accidents. Compare that to the number of STD-cases in Germany. I really don't get it why anybody who isn't afraid to drive to an FKK for over an hour is afraid of STDs.]

The basic difference is that one doesn't look for disgraces or unwanted risks intentionally: if the airplane crashes, I did nothing for it to happen and there was nothing I could do to avoid or prevent, even though I was aware that could happen, so I can't be blamed, I was unlucky. To follow your example of driving, if one drives safely (uses a condom) his chances to have an accident still exist but go down and keep relatively low, if one passes through with the red light at an intersection (no condom) , he may not have an accident but his chances to make it happen are much higher.

Friendly yours, EG

ZeevZ
03-30-13, 19:15
[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1404699No need to, I've made my position clear several times. Just RTFF.In the specific case, I meant to be ironic (I'm finding out german guys have troubles spotting irony, it's not the first time I'm heavily misunderstood) , and anyway I'm positive (can't think of a better word, L-O-L!) about the fact that Apache ignored the existence of AO thread and its posters. It's no secret I'm 0 with computer and internet, in my case, when I enter the forum, I don't visualize directly the AO threads, not even by clicking "Germany" or "FKK clubs", I don't know if it's my fault. I had already been reading the forum for months before I learnt about AO, if you remember by YOU (and eventually also Dark Vader, because still I wasn't getting it!) , YOU posted the link for me! Otherwise I'd maybe never find out about AO, especially if one doesn't read the German threads. I thought it could be Apache's case too.[/QUOTE]EastGoing, you are right. Germans very often do not spot irony at first sight. Never been their speciality. I come from a very ironic culture and even if I spend since very long maybe 4 months per year in Germany still sometimes it happens my German friends do not distinguish when I am serious or ironic!

However, I can tell you out of exerience, remember that AO practices are a national sport of German males. Therefore, it is hard fr them to imagine that someone is not at least part-time enjoying that or is not looking for that and therefore spots the appropriate section on the forum.

I enjoy myself of course much more AO than covered sex, but at the same time I try to refrain myself in most cases for two reasons: as you say it is different vountarily choose to face risks tht can be avoided even if statistically almost non-existent and second (main real reason) because usually most of the best looking girls with the hottest bodies work in the big cubs and do not offer AO. And I love to spend my money for hot bodies!

SwingerLover
03-30-13, 19:17
so I can't be blamed, I was unlucky. To follow your example of driving, if one drives safely (uses a condom) his chances to have an accident still exist but go down and keep relatively low, if one passes through with the red light at an intersection (no condom) , he may not have an accident but his chances to make it happen are much higher.I would put those limping analogies in a different order. IMO the "red light at an intersection" analogy is more like fucking a stoned chick bareback in a disco-toilet while being half-drunk yourself. (And I don't even want to know how often THAT happens.)

Bareback fucking at an organized sex-party, even more so with public groupsex and for from anywhere from 50 to 150 € is IMO more like "chances to have an accident still exist but go down and keep relatively low". Whereas condom-fucking IMO is more like driving around in an armored car and still worry about getting a house dropped on you.

London Traveller
03-30-13, 21:52
It's not only HIV, there's many other serious STDs to catch.The other STDs can all be caught easily from OWO, which is standard practice in all clubs.

Optimist
03-30-13, 22:06
STDs in FKK. This discussion seems to be neverending (so I'll make it even more lengthy). Yes, STDs can be caught from OWO. But just for the record I know a worker who had OWO several thousand times and did not catch anything (this is confirmed as she was regularly tested). She did not do bareback, but as reported by others repeatedly, the risks of BB are exaggerated. So we need to keep this in a sense of proportion. As I said elsewhere I am more worried about the effects of smoking and cervical cancer risks to the girls (both of which can be terminal, even more than HIV)

As to perceptions of risk. I loathe secondhand smoke but when it's coming out of the mouth of my favourite girl it becomes almost as desirable as she :eek:

Hessen Bub
03-30-13, 23:07
The other STDs can all be caught easily from OWO, which is standard practice in all clubs.Can. Don't have to. Never caught anything in over 15 years (knock on wood). Of you want to minimize the risk: Don't kiss, no BBBJ, no DATY, no BB. But you could also stay at home, you could catch something in the clubs shower. Or in Oase's filthy rooms (BTW, if you think Oase is dirty, try Arabella or Grimberg).

HB

Kimino
03-30-13, 23:10
[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1404691]Anyway if you are normal and decent looking then you would not be paying for sex. /QUOTE]
An interesting point for a conversation CaptCabins. I'm sure If you think about it you will realize it's not true. Be it a wife, a girlfriend or even an occasional that you'll have to take out for dinner and put up with her phonecalls the next day, sex is almost never free, and it doesn't matter how cool or goodlooking you are. LOL.

One thing I love about "true" prostitution is the honesty behind it. I pay, you suck my dick. You know I'm paying you to suck my dick, I know you will suck my dick if I pay you. We are the best lovers, for 30 min. And we can make the deal any time, no phonecalls needed, except for booking. And it's generally very cheap, if compared to other ways of getting sex, let alone the peace of mind.

And now guys, ready to be killed for saying this. :)

Kimino

Hessen Bub
03-30-13, 23:15
And now guys, ready to be killed for saying this. .

KiminoWhy? It's true. Or as someone said: we are paying the girls 50€ so they leave (us alone) after 30 min.

HB

Kimino
03-30-13, 23:28
We are paying the girls 50€ so they leave (us alone) after 30 min.

HBAwesome. Wish I could print this on a tshirt!

Kimino

CaptCabins
03-31-13, 01:28
[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1404691]Anyway if you are normal and decent looking then you would not be paying for sex. /QUOTE]An interesting point for a conversation CaptCabins. I'm sure If you think about it you will realize it's not true. Be it a wife, a girlfriend or even an occasional that you'll have to take out for dinner and put up with her phonecalls the next day, sex is almost never free, and it doesn't matter how cool or goodlooking you are. LOL.

And now guys, ready to be killed for saying this.

KiminoYes I understand different point of view. Just that I feel it is riduclous for someone to say I am not old, I am fit and get good service but I don't get AO. You are paying to fuck a hooker. You want bareback put more money in!

Kimino
03-31-13, 08:04
[QUOTE=Kimino; 1404869]Yes I understand different point of view. Just that I feel it is riduclous for someone to say I am not old, I am fit and get good service but I don't get AO. You are paying to fuck a hooker. You want bareback put more money in!Really don't know. I fall in the tourists category but I visit Artemis quite often, and for sure I know many of the girls quite well. I don't look like Brad Pitt but not even like Yoda and for sure some of the girls know I don't look too much at the money. Still, I was never, ever, been offered unprotected sex. And never asked. Boh. It's not the way one looks, it's not the getting to know better some girls. Out of total ignorance, I would expect less popular or less eye candy style girls to offer it. In Fkks, I mean.

Kimino

Hessen Bub
03-31-13, 09:59
. You want bareback put more money in!No, that's not the thing. It does just happen, no extra money.


Out of total ignorance, I would expect less popular or less eye candy style girls to offer it. In Fkks, I mean.No, it's also the top acts fucking BB. No extra money needed. Also at ARTE.

HB

Kommodore
03-31-13, 12:29
In case the wrong impression is given, please do not expect to be inundated with offers of BB sex as soon as you walk in the doors of the bigger Hessen or NRW FKK / Sauna clubs. That being said, BB appears to be a bit more readily on offer these days and who can know exactly why this is. My own theory is that it was always offered by girls to regular, good paying clients. The idea being to hold onto this client. BB may also be initially offered to mongers who regularly attend a particular club and who are regarded as reasonable fellows and good payers. The idea here is that the girl wants to acquire a particular customer who is known to behave / pay well. Beyond the above reasons, perhaps financial pressures put on the girls (either by themselves or their employers) are causing the girls offer this service or perhaps because other girls are offering this service it is becoming less taboo to also offer this BB service. Who knows and I repeat offers of BB sex are not the norm. But lets put it this way, IMO it is a service that seems to be offered less occasionally.

Angus Magee
03-31-13, 13:02
Sounds good except I have been a fairly regular and good customer at Artemis for about 4 years and never once been offered to bare back any of the girls. Not that this proves anything one way or the other. It may well be common as HB says but I never see evidence of it. The truth is I do not know what I would do if a fave girl offered to slip me in un covered.

AM

Kommodore
03-31-13, 13:13
Sounds good except I have been a fairly regular and good customer at Artemis for about 4 years and never once been offered to bare back any of the girls. Not that this proves anything one way or the other. It may well be common as HB says but I never see evidence of it. The truth is I do not know what I would do if a fave girl offered to slip me in un covered.

AMYou are correct. My previous post (below) should read "My own theory is that it was always offered by SOME girls to regular, good paying clients." The key word should be SOME. Definitely not ALL by any means.

We are probably more or less in agreement on this issue. BB is not immediately or frequently offered. I have been occasionally offered BB in Hessen / NRW clubs. I am aware of mongers who have occasionally received this service from regular girls. Also these guys were spending considerable time (paying a lot of money) with these girls per visit (at least €300 and often much more). They were not paying extra for BB as such.

K

Angus Magee
03-31-13, 13:29
We are probably more or less in agreement on this issue. BB is not immediately or frequently offered. I have been occasionally offered BB in Hessen / NRW clubs. Friends of mine have occasionally received this service from regular girls. Also the guys were spending considerable time (paying a lot of money) with these girls per visit (€400 - €500). They were not paying extra for BB as such.Well there you go then. While I used to spend more these days I am a Half Hour Harry all the way. Probably just as well.

AM

Kommodore
03-31-13, 13:46
Well there you go then. While I used to spend more these days I am a Half Hour Harry all the way. Probably just as well.

AMI have been offered BB sex on at least three occasions in the past five years when initially encountering a WG. There was no promise of extended time in the room but I am known to spend a certain amount of money per club visit so there is no guarantee that had not been observed. I have also been offered this service by a number of girls whom I would take to the room on a more frequent basis but because of the health risk and also because I prefer not to tie myself too much to any particular WG, I have always declined this service. It would be interesting to read the experiences of other mongers on this subject and why they think that BB sex is now more often offered. If indeed that is their oppinion.

Indi Companion
03-31-13, 15:16
No, that's not the thing. It does just happen, no extra money.

No, it's also the top acts fucking BB. No extra money needed. Also at ARTE.

HBAgree on this topic with HB. It is not a question of money and not necesserily a question of bad looks. Often it was offered without any extra to be paid as well as from some of the most beautiful girls of the club.

Indi Companion
03-31-13, 15:25
I have been offered BB sex on at least three occasions in the past five years when initially encountering a WG. There was no promise of extended time in the room but I am known to spend a certain amount of money per club visit so there is no guarantee that had not been observed. I have also been offered this service by a number of girls whom I would take to the room on a more frequent basis but because of the health risk and also because I prefer not to tie myself too much to any particular WG, I have always declined this service. It would be interesting to read the experiences of other mongers on this subject and why they think that BB sex is now more often offered. If indeed that is their oppinion.Hey Kommodore, I have lived the same kind of experience of yours in being offered BB.

Just two times it happened that the girl was going BB just simple and naturally consequence of the great chemistry between the two of us.

For sure there is an increasing of BB offering and this depends (discussing the issue with the girls) on two factors. On one side the crisis that brings always less customers to the clubs has the conseque ce that the girls accept to take higher risks for tieing a new client particularly if the new client is someone visiting regularly the clubs. On the other side the girls are a bit more desperate about their lives as prostitutes and therefore easier pray of thinking that they may have found their prince charming.

However, I never accepted BB from girls offering it. It would mean they most likely offer it on regular basis making much higher the risks involved in such practice.

Nevertheless, and just to avod to spread the thinking that in any FKK or sauna club is easy to find BB, I would say that in any club max 1 percent of the girls may accept to do it. Therefore, if anyone is going to these clubs just for it, it is highly probable that he will take a lot of visits and money before he can find one. If anyone is interested in such practices better to stick to the clibs that officially advertise is or admit it. Better for everyone, so who looks for thatservice will be happy and who looks for a little risk less in this hobby will feel more comfortable!

EastGoing
03-31-13, 18:12
Kommodore,

I can't speak too much about Germany and FKKs, I can tell you I asked a girl in Artemis if we could do AO and she politely refused. I asked more for curiosity than for real intention, I don't know what I would have done if she had said yes, turning down a stunner is much harder than turning down an average or ugly girl. But I can tell you that last year I made a couple of trips to Bucharest, Romania, THE factory. About 40 girls done out of several more seen and contacted, a few times I was offered AO, without asking. I remember a couple of very pretty teenies, so maybe because they were beginners, one was tired I had been fucking her nearly one hour and not unloaded yet, she was kindly wanting me to finish and offered to do unprotected, without surcharge, I brokenheartedly refused. Then a couple of real pros, but on the chubby side, and a few others offering AO (some of them before hand) only to married (and I'm not sure also to engaged) men, they told me that, by looking at me, they were sure I was in the cathegory, in spite me having no ring, I still wonder if I had to take it as a compliment or not, LOL! Anyway, for your own curiosity, you may want to give a look at www.anuntul.ro, the most popular (and no wallet squeezing, because it's not a site intended for gullible tourist, it's for locals) site, you will nearly surely find adds, any given day, where some girls openly advertise "sex total", AO.

My opinion is that in big numbers, and this works for everything, you can find some of whatever. If you investigate something out of 10 people, you may find 0, out of 300 it may be 2, out of thousands of course you have more chances to find more of the researched subject. Now earth inhabitants are more than 7 billions. This may explain why nowadays you can find many more girls offering AO than in the past, this probably applies to Germany like to Thailand, Brazil, Cuba, etc going down the scale towards countries where P4p is made difficult by other circumstances, for instance laws. Other minor reasons could be ignorance, desperate need, competition, greed, I wouldn't give a relevant importance to punter's look and fitness, this is more likely something we want to praise ourselves with, even though, in big numbers, that might happen. My 2 cents.

EG

Jymondor
03-31-13, 19:45
What it stands for? Found on Arabella website.

Thanks

Hessen Bub
03-31-13, 19:52
FT = Französisch Total = CIM.

http://www.lustscout.to/forum/showthread.php?tid=37964

HB

Trans Atlantic
04-01-13, 06:35
FT = Französisch Total = CIM.

http://www.lustscout.to/forum/showthread.php?tid=37964

HBIs CIM the same as Französisch mit Aufnahme?

JunkJock
04-01-13, 19:20
Does anyone have stories about doing a successful COF at an FKK club?

SwingerLover
04-01-13, 23:25
I always used http://www.traummaennlein.com/abkuerzungen.htm If I wanted to look something up. But on the Lustscout-site is some stuff that's missing from the Traummännlein-site (and vice versa). Good to have another option. Thanks, Bub!

Yakob
04-02-13, 00:46
Is CIM the same as Französisch mit Aufnahme?This is correct. Literally means French with shot.

SwingerLover
04-02-13, 14:50
This is correct. Literally means French with shot.Literally "Französisch mit Aufnahme" translates as "French with intake". Ergo: CIM.

And as we are on the subject: Swallowing = Schlucken; She swallows. = Sie schluckt.

MrAdams
04-11-13, 20:59
Hello guys,

I was thinking of going either to Germany and visit a FFK a club or to Prague first week in June. Can't make up my mind really which tho.

So I thought about throwing out the question and hope to get some help / opinions / advice from experienced guys.

Reading the forum, FFK seems like the best option however I am not sure I like the concept. Sharing changing room with other naked men and walking around half naked with other men. Also, after I have sex I want to get away from thst environment. I am not sure I could stand to be around it more. I get disillusioned easily.

And thats why I think Prague would be great. Visit private and night clubs. And good looking girls. And cheap too perhaps.

Anyways, based on this and based on your own experience, what would your advice to me be if you were my "consigliere"?

Foolish
04-26-13, 18:48
Hello guys,

I was thinking of going either to Germany and visit a FFK a club or to Prague first week in June. Can't make up my mind really which tho.My thoughts on this: I too wanted to visit Prague after a wonderful visit to FKKs in November. It depends on a few factors (at least to me).

Do you like being around others, ie fkks or stripclub types in Prague? Or do you prefer privats / apartments?

Do you like Romanians? Fkks have a lot of them. I like them, but I like Czech girls too.

Most males at FKKs are low key and keep to themselves. Most of the time I was at Oase, World and Mainhatten, the locker rooms were empty (although girls at World will be in the bathroom sometimes). Most people wash quickly and want to be out of there. Depending on which days you go in June, might be swarmed though with people. Are you thinking Frankfurt or NRW?

I like to see and sample goods first (kissing, personalities / attitude). FKK wins hands down because of this and some decent info here on the forums. But you have figure out what you like to really get the most out of reviews. From what I heard about privats, many girls are busy (so you don't see all when you're there). After experiencing this with escorts back home, don't like booking without seeing girls for myself, although talking / hanging out guarantees nothing in the room.

If you care about sights and other things to do, Prague will definitely be better. I read, eat, get a normal massage, talk to girls, go the sauna and basically relax at a fkk.

Pricing will be similar for sex, although privats have no entrance fee and are cheaper for things like anal (could be a $20 extra vs $100-150 in hessen, cheaper in nrw). But fkks include food and drinks, albeit basic / poor sometimes.

My overall observation from the forums is that fkks seem to please more just when it comes to the blend of ease of transport, use of English (didn't end up needing my basic Romanian) , cost, selection and services. Especially for a global monger newbie like myself.

Hope this helps. Don't get me wrong, I will visit Prague one day regardless.

F.

Maxime
04-27-13, 18:00
Prague is a great city, I visit it regularly, and I like it very much, but the only thing that you should avoid is paid sex there! Of course there are (good) exceptions, but in general the service of the girls is (way) below what you get in the German FKK or Sauna clubs. You can be lucky with some privates (see Prague thread) , or some clubs (Neon is the only one acceptable enough for me with respect to offered services) , but in general french kiss and OWO are not standard (as it is in Germany) and extensive pre-saling (like in some German clubs) is not very common in Prague either. The best to do in Prague is go to a decent bar or (dance) club and pick up a non-paid girl. Happens to me 50% of the time, so not so bad. If you want 100% chance, either call an escort lady (those tend to offer good service including frenck kiss and OWO, but are more expensive) or go to German FKK / Saunaclubs.

Enjoy!

MrAdams
04-29-13, 16:40
Maxime and Foolish,

Thanks a lot for your input. It will be Frankfurt this time. I like the kissing and so I guess its better chance of getting it in Frankfurt.

Going to study the forum.

So my plan is to go there for a wknd. Arrive Friday eve, check out the RLD and maybe go for one session there. Then Saturday and Sunday I will visit a FFK. First session early in the day and then after 2-3 sessions I will get back to the hotell to get some rest before I head back in the eve / night. Does it sound like a solid game plan?

Prolly Mainhattan or / and Palace. Oase seems to be too far away. Am I right here? Is there a good chance of getting DFK in Palace or Mainhattan? It seems that Oase might be slightly better but who really knows.

Is it possible to ask the girl for a free sample of kissing before I decide? Where goes the line? If a girl starts grabbing my dick etc do and I let her play is it automatically agreed then that we are going to session?

Hmmm. Think I need to research the forum.

Levitraboner
04-30-13, 05:03
Maxime and Foolish,

Thanks a lot for your input. It will be Frankfurt this time. I like the kissing and so I guess its better chance of getting it in Frankfurt.

Going to study the forum.

So my plan is to go there for a wknd. Arrive Friday eve, check out the RLD and maybe go for one session there. Then Saturday and Sunday I will visit a FFK. First session early in the day and then after 2-3 sessions I will get back to the hotell to get some rest before I head back in the eve / night. Does it sound like a solid game plan?

Prolly Mainhattan or / and Palace. Oase seems to be too far away. Am I right here? Is there a good chance of getting DFK in Palace or Mainhattan? It seems that Oase might be slightly better but who really knows.

Is it possible to ask the girl for a free sample of kissing before I decide? Where goes the line? If a girl starts grabbing my dick etc do and I let her play is it automatically agreed then that we are going to session?

Hmmm. Think I need to research the forum.Dude, rent a car and go to oase and world. Make sure you get one with GPS. Don't screw around with trains. That's my advise.

Yakob
04-30-13, 07:25
Going to study the forum.

So my plan is to go there for a wknd. Arrive Friday eve, check out the RLD and maybe go for one session there. Then Saturday and Sunday I will visit a FFK. First session early in the day and then after 2-3 sessions I will get back to the hotell to get some rest before I head back in the eve / night. Does it sound like a solid game plan?

Prolly Mainhattan or / and Palace. Oase seems to be too far away. Am I right here? Is there a good chance of getting DFK in Palace or Mainhattan? It seems that Oase might be slightly better but who really knows.

Is it possible to ask the girl for a free sample of kissing before I decide? Where goes the line? If a girl starts grabbing my dick etc do and I let her play is it automatically agreed then that we are going to session?

Hmmm. Think I need to research the forum.MrAdams.

Please do study the forum.

Your game plan of FRiday eve at RLD to save on entry and then FKK all day on Saturday and Sunday is a good idea and is recommended.

If you need to go back to your hotel to sleep then a FKK in down town is better than one FKK in the wilderness. So Mainhattan or Palace is the places to go if you hotel is in Frankfurt. If you can get a hotel close to the FKK like oase or Sharks or World then its the same thing since there are hotels or pensions very close to Oase or World and Sharks too.

You can get DFK in all the clubs. Just be sure to ask before you go to the room. Sometimes I have been caught out on that but this has only been at Golden Time from Romanians where I should know better to avoid but it was optifucks that drove me to do it so what the fuck.

You can ask a girl for a free sample of kissing but it is up to the girl to give it or not for that matter. You will see.

Yes, go study the forum more.

Purayil
04-30-13, 08:58
The last time I visited fkk Palace was in 2009& in 2011, I had 2 wonderful daysatOase (both reported in FR) Has booked hotel near to Frankfurt Hbf from May 23 Road & the idea is to visit World (never been there) on day 1, day 2 at Palace & may be Rld / manhattan on day 3. Am an avid follower of the Forum which gives you very useful tips. Aprreciate if I can get some leads on the doable ChicasatWorld and Palace. The Palace website showed mostly unfamiliar names& faces (3 yrs is a along time I suppose) & I am a newbie to World.

Foolish
04-30-13, 14:16
It will be Frankfurt this time. I like the kissing and so I guess its better chance of getting it in Frankfurt.

Is it possible to ask the girl for a free sample of kissing before I decide? Where goes the line? If a girl starts grabbing my dick etc do and I let her play is it automatically agreed then that we are going to session?

Hmmm. Think I need to research the forum.
Dude, rent a car and go to oase and world. Make sure you get one with GPS. Don't screw around with trains. That's my advise.Good choice with the rld and fkk combo. I haven't tried rld yet, might do so earlier on a Friday just to check it out.

What Yakob said. I agree with Levitra in terms of the car, but the train system is very affordable and reliable. In terms of kissing, some girls don't like kissing in public. I usually like the "interview" a bit out of view. Sampling kissing is possible. I usually don't like them hand jobbing me under the towel too much. Also, if they touch their lips to your cock, you're pretty much committed to the minimum session. Not sure of too many who will let you get away with it unless you can convince them to give a free sample. Also, if a session is just plain terrible (it can and will happen) , you can just leave and pay and save your energy. I don't usually do this, I go more with the flow and have low expectations.

F.

Rupert Pupkin2
05-01-13, 05:14
Hey folks, I'm just going to throw a few annoying rookie questions out there. I've done only a little research on FKK clubs, but I have been researching Partytreffs / Pauschalclubs extensively for the last few weeks and really don't have time to do the same with FKK clubs before I leave for Europe.

1. Are there any comprehensive lists of FKK and Sauna Clubs? Preferably with links to their websites and / or address and phone number. Better still would be a map with links to these clubs, in the fashion of Wanking's Partytreff map.

Is this list at all comprehensive? http://www.***************.com/fkk-clubs/

2. The reason I've been doing more research on Pauschalclubs / Partytreffs than FKK's is because the FKK clubs may be a little out of my price range. However, I've noticed that some of these clubs only charge around $30 entry and then $30 for each girl. Basically I would be interested in any clubs where I can pay entry and get 3 high quality girls for under $150 (Looks wise, I have typical tastes. Fit 18-30 year old girls with nice C+ tits. 20-30 min with each would suffice). What would be the easiest way for me to obtain info on only clubs that would fall into this price range?

Any clubs that charge $50+ entry and $50+ per girl, for example, is out of my price range. I may spoil myself one day but I definitely won't be making a habit of it.

It'd be really helpful if somebody could point me in the right direction here. Cheers.

Hessen Bub
05-01-13, 13:52
http://www.isaw-db.com/map_de.html

HB

Mainlander
05-01-13, 17:53
I am going to be in Germany from Sunday to Friday next week. Last visit a year ago I found almost no German, Czech or west Europeans in Oase, World or Mainhatten. I will have a car and so travel is not a problem.

Can anyone recommend a few FKK or Sauna clubs where there might be a high proportion of German, Czech or West Europeans? I enjoyed all the Romanians and Bulgarians I met but would like some variety as well on this trip. Even if it means going further afield.

Thanks

Hessen Bub
05-01-13, 18:39
Difficult. Probably Palace, Artemis, GT, Magnum and maybe Paradise habe the highest "non-BuRo" percentage. Doesn't mean CZ and D girls only, but also black girls, Polish and Russian girls etc.

Oase, Sharks, World, Mainhattan, Acapulco, LivingRoom, Samya. Mostly Romanian and Bulgarian girls. Doesn't mean you don't find other nationalities there, but they are the minority.

HB

Angus Magee
05-01-13, 19:00
Can anyone recommend a few FKK or Sauna clubs where there might be a high proportion of German, Czech or West Europeans? I enjoyed all the Romanians and Bulgarians I met but would like some variety as well on this trip. Even if it means going further afield.I can say the Artemis has a very good Czech presence with Nina, Nikole, Marketa, Fatima (who is Slovakian but I assume that counts) and at least a couple others. All four mentioned are star performers. I myself am not so much into Germans but I know there are some top German girls there as well.

AM

Angus Magee
05-01-13, 19:08
Basically I would be interested in any clubs where I can pay entry and get 3 high quality girls for under $150 (Looks wise, I have typical tastes. Fit 18-30 year old girls with nice C+ tits. 20-30 min with each would suffice). What would be the easiest way for me to obtain info on only clubs that would fall into this price range?I guess it depends on what you mean by "high quality" but generally 150 for three sessions and entry is pretty much low balling. Finding that price may well be possible but I would question just how much high quality you can expect for that level. You can certainly scour the cheaper clubs and come up with the occasional gem but my experience is that this in itself costs money. Seems to me that you are asking-How can I cherry pick the cheap clubs and come up with nothing but gems? If you figure it out please do let the rest of us know. It would be a neat trick to pull off. Most of us just go to the clubs where we can afford to play and do the research that way.

AM

Free Dude
05-01-13, 19:31
If you go early to acapulco, you pay 30 entry and then it's 40 for half an hour. Plenty model like Romanians there.

Then there are clubs that allow 20 minute sessions:

Dolce Vita at 35 entrance and 35 for 20 minutes will get you three rounds for 140 (I personally am not too enthusiastic about service levels).

Salome in Bochum has 30 for 20 minutes and the same for entry; I think the same for Mondial in Cologne and Neby in Dortmund.

Luder Lounge in Dortmund had about 18 girls there, with very high service levels (frenching and BBBJ on the couch are standard and time starts in the room). Before 2 pm 20 entry and 30 for 20min; so here you could have 4 sessions and only be out 140; but you will probably meet a few girls that will make you want to spend more time).

And of course also the RTC (with maybe less stunners) : FKK Alina, Grimberg, Villa Venus, Dietzenbach, Arabella. All slightly different pricemodels, but three sessions is 120 or less at all of them (and all extras inclusive). Service is pretty good.

Bel Ami in Dortmund and Penelope in Essen ask 25 for 20 minutes, but service is closer to laufhauses.

I would say only the top two will always have enough good looking women.

London Traveller
05-01-13, 21:00
I have a work trip to Munich coming up in August. Is it worth my while going to FKK Hawaii if I am used to clubs like Oase and Golden Time? Advice please!

Hessen Bub
05-01-13, 22:19
I'd give it a try. Was there twice and had great sessions, although line-up is sub Oase in quantitiy you will find a handfull of good looking girls. Or you go to Colosseum, which I don't like, too sterile, no atmosphere. Still it does have its fans.

HB

Rupert Pupkin2
05-02-13, 00:25
If you go early to acapulco, you pay 30 entry and then it's 40 for half an hour. Plenty model like Romanians there.

Then there are clubs that allow 20 minute sessions:

Dolce Vita at 35 entrance and 35 for 20 minutes will get you three rounds for 140 (I personally am not too enthusiastic about service levels).

Salome in Bochum has 30 for 20 minutes and the same for entry; I think the same for Mondial in Cologne and Neby in Dortmund.

Luder Lounge in Dortmund had about 18 girls there, with very high service levels (frenching and BBBJ on the couch are standard and time starts in the room). Before 2 pm 20 entry and 30 for 20min; so here you could have 4 sessions and only be out 140; but you will probably meet a few girls that will make you want to spend more time).

And of course also the RTC (with maybe less stunners) : FKK Alina, Grimberg, Villa Venus, Dietzenbach, Arabella. All slightly different pricemodels, but three sessions is 120 or less at all of them (and all extras inclusive). Service is pretty good.

Bel Ami in Dortmund and Penelope in Essen ask 25 for 20 minutes, but service is closer to laufhauses.

I would say only the top two will always have enough good looking women.Many thanks for the tips.

I was reading up on Acapulco yesterday and this looks like exactly the sort of club I am looking for, based on the impression I get from their website and some of the reviews I read. It's stretching the budget but it's manageable. In general the girls definitely look hot enough. They don't have to be stunners. Just normal hot girls. The girls on their website generally look well sufficient.

I'll read up on those other clubs later today. And yes, there is always the danger of wanting to extend or pay for extras but just knowing that I can get a few girls and entry for a certain price is enough to get me through the door. I'm not too fussed about extras. BBBJ is good but I can do without. BBFS I'm not even sure I'd want to take the risk. Anal I can do without. As long as I can fuck these girls in a few positions and touch and suck them where I want to (pussy eating / fingering is not a must, but preferable) , then I am happy. Anything else they offer is a bonus. As for the quality of the service, I'm happy to take the risk and find out the hard way if a girl is a dud.

What does RTC stand for? I was reading up on a couple of those clubs yesterday (Arabella, Villa Venus) , and the reviews were really positive and I was thinking wow, great. But then I found some threads with pictures of the girls and a lot of them were downright horrible. A few of them were ok at best. Lower quality than almost all of the all inclusive clubs I've been researching.

Thanks again, champ.

Also cheers for the advice, Angus Magee. I'll keep that in mind. I'm just looking for clubs that have an affordable price but still good quality girls, looks wise. Like I said they don't have to be stunners. Just normal hot. Like 7's and 8's for example. A 7 average amongst all girls would be a good club.

And thanks for that map, Hessen Bub. That's great!

Vito Corleone
05-02-13, 01:53
If you go early to acapulco, you pay 30 entry and then it's 40 for half an hour. Plenty model like Romanians there.

Then there are clubs that allow 20 minute sessions:

Dolce Vita at 35 entrance and 35 for 20 minutes will get you three rounds for 140 (I personally am not too enthusiastic about service levels).

Salome in Bochum has 30 for 20 minutes and the same for entry; I think the same for Mondial in Cologne and Neby in Dortmund.

Luder Lounge in Dortmund had about 18 girls there, with very high service levels (frenching and BBBJ on the couch are standard and time starts in the room). Before 2 pm 20 entry and 30 for 20min; so here you could have 4 sessions and only be out 140; but you will probably meet a few girls that will make you want to spend more time).

And of course also the RTC (with maybe less stunners) : FKK Alina, Grimberg, Villa Venus, Dietzenbach, Arabella. All slightly different pricemodels, but three sessions is 120 or less at all of them (and all extras inclusive). Service is pretty good.

Bel Ami in Dortmund and Penelope in Essen ask 25 for 20 minutes, but service is closer to laufhauses.Heaven 7 in Willich 30E for 30 minutes. Club has improved ever since PHG owners took over.

Bnoska
05-02-13, 10:27
Fellow Monger's,

I am in Frankfurt for 2 days in later this month. I have read the sub forums of the FKK, and thanks to all the contributors. I have a question which is not necessarily answered by reading the forums and therefore request your assistance on this.

If I have only two days to spend, which are the two clubs I should definitely visit? I know the ladies are going to be hit and miss regardless of which club I go to, but in terms of size of line-up, ambiance etc, which are the two clubs you would recommend? Thank you in advance for any help provided, and I promise to be a "Newbies guide to FKK" upon my return.

Yakson

Rupert Pupkin2
05-02-13, 14:33
I've been researching those cheaper clubs today and there's a few that have gotten my interest.

Just some more annoying rookie questions, this time regarding the more expensive FKK clubs ($50+ entry. $50 for half hour etc.)

I'd really like to visit at least one of these clubs. At most I may visit 2 or 3 of them. So I don't want to spend a lot of time researching these clubs when I'm only planning to visit so few of them.

Are these clubs generally pretty similar? Like are all the more expensive clubs pretty reliable in terms of the quality of the appearance of the girls?

Do they vary much in how the clubs operate? Like I've heard in some clubs all the girls present themselves naked for example.

Do you generally get the same sort of deal by paying the entrance fee? Food, drinks (alcohol?) , use of facilities etc.

Are there certain clubs that are generally agreed to be the best by a majority of people who visit these clubs? For me personally the most important thing is the quality of the girls and also just a generally enjoyable club to spend time in would be preferred.

Are there certain clubs I should avoid?

Any help would be appreciated. I'm just trying to minimise research time here. I am spending so much time researching these German clubs and still have so much to do before I leave for Europe in 2 weeks.

Cheers

Rupert Pupkin2
05-02-13, 14:42
Also I forgot to mention that location is not an issue as I will be travelling through Germany in a van and have no particular route planned. I'm just going to take it as it comes. I may even base my route on which clubs I plan to visit, at least to some degree.

Ocampo2
05-02-13, 22:42
I will be in in Flensburge for a 5 days (later this month) and I wanted to know some nice newbie friendly places to see. I only speak English and I am not white, will this be a problem in getting service? Can someone also recommend a monger friendly hotel near Hamburg Airport? And where to get service in Hamburg (what clubs to visit). I like slim / fit girls. I would do indian, black, asian and whites in that order. I really can do with any good looking woman.

BigsOne
05-09-13, 10:10
Hi,

I'm visiting Frankfurt for a day and have never been to a fkk. Seems like oase is the closet one here. 2 questions

1. Is it worth visiting oase on Thursday

2. Are there cabs post midnight near OASE?

Maxime
05-09-13, 18:09
Hi,

I'm visiting Frankfurt for a day and have never been to a fkk. Seems like oase is the closet one here. 2 questions

1. Is it worth visiting oase on Thursday

2. Are there cabs post midnight near OASE?Thursday is normally a good lin up, but watch out, I think it is dessoux day (meaing, girls are and lingerie, so not naked) , for me it I seven advantage, because more sex, but ok. Most girls wil; be back from orthodox Eastern coming week.

Cabs are everywhere outside Oase entrance, also after midnight.

London Traveller
05-11-13, 00:03
I will be in in Flensburge for a 5 days (later this month) and I wanted to know some nice newbie friendly places to see. I only speak English and I am not white, will this be a problem in getting service? Can someone also recommend a monger friendly hotel near Hamburg Airport? And where to get service in Hamburg (what clubs to visit). I like slim / fit girls. I would do indian, black, asian and whites in that order. I really can do with any good looking woman.Best hotel near Hamburg Airport is the Radisson Blu. You will need to meet your girl downstairs though as the lifts need key cards inserted to go up. It is big and anonymous but I would suggest that your girl dresses tastefully. I haven't been but a friend of mine recommends FKK Atmos in Hamburg. I think that service might be a bit more limited than in the Frankfurt clubs though. So don't expect anything too adventurous.

Yakob
05-11-13, 03:25
I have a work trip to Munich coming up in August. Is it worth my while going to FKK Hawaii if I am used to clubs like Oase and Golden Time? Advice please!London Traveller,

If you are used to the extensive line ups of Oase and Golden Time then going to Hawaii may be a disappointment. It is not so many as these clubs. You will find some gems but then you are an experienced man so it should be no hardship to do some ground work to seek what you find.

Munich is no the place to go for FKK. There are some clubs in Nuremburg way but once again no destination club like Artemis in Berlin or the FKKs of Frankfurt. Munich is all about the privates.

This is why you find the Bavarian man coming to the Frankfurt clubs and evens flying up over the weekend to come to Frankfurt for FKKs. Munich cannot compare for FKK.

Yakob
05-11-13, 03:29
Fellow Monger's,

I am in Frankfurt for 2 days in later this month. I have read the sub forums of the FKK, and thanks to all the contributors. I have a question which is not necessarily answered by reading the forums and therefore request your assistance on this.

If I have only two days to spend, which are the two clubs I should definitely visit? I know the ladies are going to be hit and miss regardless of which club I go to, but in terms of size of line-up, ambiance etc, which are the two clubs you would recommend? Thank you in advance for any help provided, and I promise to be a "Newbies guide to FKK" upon my return.

YaksonYaksonB,

Answer depends on what your criteria is for the best clubs.

Personally for me, it is Oase and World for their line ups and facilities and service levels if I had to pick two Frankfurt clubs. That decision may also be influenced by which 2 days you plans to visit as a Messe could be in town, or a weekend day may be the decider to what clinches the decision.

In saying that, if you never been to a FKK then any FKK will be an experience in itself seeing all them naked hoes wanting to suck on your big one sans condom.

Yakob
05-11-13, 03:35
Hi,

I'm visiting Frankfurt for a day and have never been to a fkk. Seems like oase is the closet one here. 2 questions

1. Is it worth visiting oase on Thursday

2. Are there cabs post midnight near OASE?BigsOne,

Hows are you getting to the Frankfurt?

Are you walking, taking the train, bicycle or driving the freight truck? This may sway the decision as what is the best.

If you have your own transportation as many mans does then Oase is a good choice.

If you stay in down town Frankfurt and no have own transport then if the criteria is closest then that means Palace or Mainhattan.

Yes, it is worth visiting on a Thursday if you have never been to a FKK bevore. You will have the time of your life.

Njoy,

Yakob
05-11-13, 03:38
Also I forgot to mention that location is not an issue as I will be travelling through Germany in a van and have no particular route planned. I'm just going to take it as it comes. I may even base my route on which clubs I plan to visit, at least to some degree.I thinks this is a good idea.

I always plans a summer holiday route based on the clubs that I visit. You can take in the lands of Badem Wurttemberg, Hessen, Rhineland Palz and Nord Rhein Westpahlia into OWL for a FKK and sauna club tour.

Njoy.

Miller75
05-11-13, 11:17
Hello people, I've read a lot of reports and tips for rookies, hope I'm ready to enter this world.

I'm going to Sachsen, visiting family as usual for me in June, but this time without wifey, so thought I'm going to have some fun.

There are now two FKK's in Leipzig, the old one, FKK-Europa and the new one, FKK-Leipzig. I've read on other forums that the last one gets girls from FKK-World (same owner).

Any experiences of the other, Europa? And, being a first timer. I could travel some distance, but not to NRW. Too far. That leaves FKK-Paradies in Erfurt or FKK-Artemis in Berlin.

What will be the best? Any advice at all on the places? I prefer German or Polish / CZ girls. And are quite happy with 25-35 age and not superslim.

I have a regular girl in Dresden that I could visit so will not go blue-balled anyway back to the top of the freezing cold Norway.

Thanks in advance,

M.

Neutron Flux
05-11-13, 20:37
Hello people, I've read a lot of reports and tips for rookies, hope I'm ready to enter this world.

I'm going to Sachsen, visiting family as usual for me in June, but this time without wifey, so thought I'm going to have some fun.

There are now two FKK's in Leipzig, the old one, FKK-Europa and the new one, FKK-Leipzig. I've read on other forums that the last one gets girls from FKK-World (same owner).

Any experiences of the other, Europa? And, being a first timer. I could travel some distance, but not to NRW. Too far. That leaves FKK-Paradies in Erfurt or FKK-Artemis in Berlin.

What will be the best? Any advice at all on the places? I prefer German or Polish / CZ girls. And are quite happy with 25-35 age and not superslim.

I have a regular girl in Dresden that I could visit so will not go blue-balled anyway back to the top of the freezing cold Norway.

Thanks in advance,

M.If I was you, I would check out FKK Leipzig and Artemis. Leipzig I have not been yet, but will check it out next time when I'm around. It's probably medium-sized, not thrilled about the connection to World, but it appears like they want to develop it into something and it's just 50 euros entry, so you don't lose a lot. Artemis is well discussed here, it has its pros and cons, its more expensive, but it is one of the bigger clubs and probably also one of the better on a national scale. The other two are just small clubs, they have mixed reviews, I have not been, it is probably possible to find good girls there, but the risk of not finding anyone according to your taste is higher there, and also the smaller clubs are a bit more difficult to navigate if you don't have a lot of experience. If you can, go to Artemis first.

Hessen Bub
05-11-13, 21:11
It really hurts my eyes when seeing the German Federal States (Bundesländer) spelled in a German-English-Mix. ;)

Here's the correct translations or German term:

http://www.englisch-hilfen.de/words/germany_states.htm

HB

Miller75
05-11-13, 21:16
It really hurts my eyes when seeing the German Federal States (Bundesländer) spelled in a German-English-Mix. .

Here's the correct translations or German term:

http://www.englisch-hilfen.de/words/germany_states.htm

HBLOL sorry about that mr Bob.

And thanks for the other reply, Artemis it is.

Hbengkok
05-12-13, 07:32
Everytime always has questions about how to travel to certain FKK, and also the accomodation near by. Some members may have written about that, but it's difficult to search after so many times and pages. How about make a Travel and Accomodation Forum, then sub with the FKK and PT, so if we want to look for that, it will be easier. For example if I want to stay near Palace FKK in Frankfurt, what is the best alternatif for budget hotels (just for sleep and maybe breakfast). How to go there by public transportation etc.

I read back then about someone who travel and sleep in a rental car, but I can not find the reports again. So the forum / sub thread would be very helpfull in finding that. Thank you.

Bnoska
05-12-13, 08:02
YaksonB,

Answer depends on what your criteria is for the best clubs.

Personally for me, it is Oase and World for their line ups and facilities and service levels if I had to pick two Frankfurt clubs. That decision may also be influenced by which 2 days you plans to visit as a Messe could be in town, or a weekend day may be the decider to what clinches the decision.

In saying that, if you never been to a FKK then any FKK will be an experience in itself seeing all them naked hoes wanting to suck on your big one sans condom.Thanks for the response Yakob. I did end up visiting Oase, a full report to follow shortly.

Banana Boi
05-12-13, 13:13
We already have them.

Fkk http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3443-Travel-information-for-FKKs-and-sauna-clubs

Pt http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3377-Trip-Planning-Tips-Public-Transport-Hotels-and-Practical-Details

YJH9152
05-28-13, 07:56
I have an early morning 4-hour layover in Frankfurt next week. Is that enough time to go to OASE and back? Any suggestion or rwcommendation welcomed!

Captain Dan's Alises
05-29-13, 00:12
I have an early morning 4-hour layover in Frankfurt next week. Is that enough time to go to OASE and back?No.


Any suggestion or rwcommendation welcomed!Stay at the airport and buy a good book.

Dreams
05-30-13, 10:32
No.

Stay at the airport and buy a good book.Or go by taxi to palace, you will have about 2 h there, enough for 2 sessions.

Hessen Bub
05-30-13, 12:01
Or go by taxi to palace, you will have about 2 h there, enough for 2 sessions.If you stay only 2h you can use the "Business Tarif" at Palace which reduces entrance to 50€.

HB

Super Flanker
05-31-13, 01:17
I have an early morning 4-hour layover in Frankfurt next week. Is that enough time to go to OASE and back? Any suggestion or rwcommendation welcomed!Early morning?

Are you sure that OASE will be open during your layover?

Business Hours:

Sunday - Tuesday 10:00AM - 4:00AM

Wednesday - Saturday 10:00AM - 5:00AM

MrAdams
06-04-13, 01:36
Hi guys.

Seems 2 me like 9/10 girls are Romanian. Correct assumption?

Not that I don't mind romanians but I would prefer a better mix.

Also regarding shaving, how much is recommended to shave? Girls do in general like the scruffy look but maybe its different in these environments? Also is it recommeded to go porn star below the belt?

Would you recommend to skip RLD (too filthy?) in favor for the FKK ckubs?

Optimist
06-04-13, 16:21
McAdams

Not sure where you are thinking of shaving. Generally the girls prefer shaved below the belt, but more than anything they appreciate 50 euros, so as long as you are clean and not drunk it will not really matter.

For a first visit go to FKK. Less chance of serious cheating, and more relaxed.

Your trip is planned for this week I believe. I look forward to your posts

MrAdams
06-04-13, 22:17
Your trip is planned for this week I believe. I look forward to your posts[/QUOTE]Thanks optimist.

Yeah, if I can get my fat ass on the plane (my pp has expired) I shall do my best to recall my experiences on the board.

All I need is a nice girl whom I can make sweet love to.

WarmStone25
06-06-13, 20:50
The Oase web site says under the heading of FAQ that it is not permissible for men to be clothed in the club.

It is not only the girls who are naked. I can not wait to get there.

Maxime
06-06-13, 21:00
The Oase web site says under the heading of FAQ that it is not permissible for men to be clothed in the club.

It is not only the girls who are naked. I can not wait to get there.In Oase, the man are not in clothes. But not nude, they wear wardrobe or towel.

Realist
06-09-13, 01:50
Hello people, I've read a lot of reports and tips for rookies, hope I'm ready to enter this world.

I'm going to Sachsen, visiting family as usual for me in June, but this time without wifey, so thought I'm going to have some fun.

There are now two FKK's in Leipzig, the old one, FKK-Europa and the new one, FKK-Leipzig. I've read on other forums that the last one gets girls from FKK-World (same owner).

Any experiences of the other, Europa? And, being a first timer. I could travel some distance, but not to NRW. Too far. That leaves FKK-Paradies in Erfurt or FKK-Artemis in Berlin.

What will be the best? Any advice at all on the places? I prefer German or Polish / CZ girls. And are quite happy with 25-35 age and not superslim.

I have a regular girl in Dresden that I could visit so will not go blue-balled anyway back to the top of the freezing cold Norway.

Thanks in advance,

M.I am also a newbie. If you are in Berlin Artemis June 25/26th give me a shout if happy to meet up as newbies.

Troll222
06-12-13, 21:58
I go to Frankfurt first saturday, Sunday and Monday. Satarday I have Oasen as my option. I see from reports that Mainhatten is out of questions Sundays. What is the best option Sunday and Monday in FKK clubes in Hessen.

Magic191
06-13-13, 21:40
Hi,

The last few years I have had the opportunity to visit a few of the German FKK Clubs. However I still feel like an amateur when reading the feedbacks here. Some impressions:

FKK Villa, Hannover: Small Club, but all clean, good food and friendly staff. The girls were all nice, but maybe not used to foreigners. Some of them went away when I informed that I dis not speak German very well. However, met a few nice girls from Frankfurt "on tour", and decided to visit Franfurt next time.

Palace, Frankfurt: Visited the club a Friday early January a few years ago. Nice set-up, friendly girls, clean, maybe a bit simpler on the food. I belive I avoided the worst "sharks" and had a very good experience with nice girls. OK in January, but see the advantage with outdoor area during summer.

Oase, Frankfurt: First visit during summer, second September and last April. Had a very good impression of Oase, mostly because of the line-up. Many nice girls, friendly attitude, exciting with the action in the cinema and a huge outdoor area. Not as clean and tidy as Palace. My last visit was on a Thursday. Unfortunately, to me this was a downside. One of the main ideas of the FKK concept is the naked girls, in addition there were periods with more men than women.

Mainhattan, Frankfurt: Two visits so far. Can't really understand why I went back. The club is smaller and has a very special set-up, you have to pass through the dressing area to move between the cinema and the bar. Few girls and most of them seem to group up and mingle in special areas (in periods filling the smoking area). If you refuse one in a group, the rest will soon be informed. Food is OK.

World, Frankfurt: So far my best experience (a Saturday). Many girls, different nationalities (however many from Romania) , nice set-up, clean and good food. Maybe a bit few rooms, but no problem to wait outside with a nice girl.

Now I plan a new visit a Sunday. Arrive Frankfurt 0830 and leave 2030. If World is good on Sundays, I want to return despite the extra travel. Any advice World vs Oase vs Palace?

Sahar
06-14-13, 14:58
Now I plan a new visit a Sunday. Arrive Frankfurt 0830 and leave 2030. If World is good on Sundays, I want to return despite the extra travel. Any advice World vs Oase vs Palace?World is much quieter on Sunday. Oase normally has the best lineup on this day.

London Traveller
06-15-13, 14:17
Now I plan a new visit a Sunday. Arrive Frankfurt 0830 and leave 2030. If World is good on Sundays, I want to return despite the extra travel. Any advice World vs Oase vs Palace?I have never been to World on Sunday so can't comment here. However, I find it difficult to decide between Oase and Palace, if you are able to cope with the sharks at the latter club.

At Oase things are quiet on Sunday but decent girls start coming in later on, from about 4-5 pm. So, if you can stay till 1830 then I would recommend Oase as you should find a good girl there later in the afternoon. If the weather is good and you want to sit outside then Oase is obviously the place.

However, the food is better at Palace (which is important before a flight) and I think that if you have to get to the airport earlier then this is a better bet as there are more attractive girls there earlier on in the afternoon.

Soft Bob
06-15-13, 18:22
I will be in Frankfurt at the end of September. I stay near the Frankfurt Hbf train station. I do not drive.

I see that Palace is the closest club and easiest to reach by train and with 25 minute walk. Is it an easy walk?

How much would a taxi cost from Frankfurt Hbf to Palace?

Palace has a 50 euro entrance fee if you visit from 10 A. M. To 1700 hours. Is it a good deal or better to pay the 65 euro entrance and stay as long as you like?

Can you pay at Palace with a credit card ?

Hessen Bub
06-15-13, 20:04
Palace does have a "Business Tariff". If you enter before 4pm and stay max. 2 hours you will pay 75€ and get 25€ back if you leave in time. If you don't you pay 75€.

It's about 4km from HBf to Palace. A cab should be less than 15€. A walk would be save but more likely around 40min.

I'd take cash to Palace. To any club. If they take plastic commission is high.

HB

Syzygies
06-15-13, 20:30
I will be in Frankfurt at the end of September. I stay near the Frankfurt Hbf train station. I do not drive.

I see that Palace is the closest club and easiest to reach by train and with 25 minute walk. Is it an easy walk?

How much would a taxi cost from Frankfurt Hbf to Palace?

Palace has a 50 euro entrance fee if you visit from 10 am To 1700 hours. Is it a good deal or better to pay the 65 euro entrance and stay as long as you like?

Can you pay at Palace with a credit card?The best way to get to Palace is take U4 train to Bockenheimerwarte (2 stops) and change to U6 / U7 (toward Hausen / Heerstrasse) , with Indrustriehof as final destination (3 stops). Its 3. 5 Km walk so quiet possible in good weather. I can't say exactly what the taxi will cost. If an efficient route could be as little as 15 Euros. Could be 20 on a longer route. Some taxis are devious.

You don't want to pay with credit card for many reasons. I never ever take a 2 hour stay discount as I don't want to be under time pressure to choose a girl. You really should take your time and consider carefully who has the right chemistry for you. As a newbie, remember not to let the girl choose you. You must choose and carefully. The stronger the girl comes on to you, the more the reasons to stay away from her. You don't want to be her victim!

Den Haag
06-16-13, 00:35
I have never been to World on Sunday so can't comment here. However, I find it difficult to decide between Oase and Palace, if you are able to cope with the sharks at the latter club.

At Oase things are quiet on Sunday but decent girls start coming in later on, from about 4-5 pm. So, if you can stay till 1830 then I would recommend Oase as you should find a good girl there later in the afternoon. If the weather is good and you want to sit outside then Oase is obviously the place.

However, the food is better at Palace (which is important before a flight) and I think that if you have to get to the airport earlier then this is a better bet as there are more attractive girls there earlier on in the afternoon.FKK Oase may be quieter on Sunday but it is still busier than FKK World. Both are good clubs but FKK Oase tends to have the better lineup, if indeed lineup is the most important requirement. This is true most days of the week in my opinion and particularly true on Sunday. FKK Palace is another good choice but as you say you need to be a little bit experienced in dealing with the slightly more agressive sales technique which many of the Palace ladies adopt. Saying that FKK Palace is a little bit more laid back on Sundays than it would be on the busier days of the week. My favourite club of the three is FKK World because of the combination of girls, facilities and quality of food. However in my opinion if lady lineup is the main criteria, then I suggest that the best choice would be FKK Oase. Saying that any of these three clubs will provide plenty of fun on any given Sunday.

Soft Bob
06-16-13, 18:30
The best way to get to Palace is take U4 train to Bockenheimerwarte (2 stops) and change to U6 / U7 (toward Hausen / Heerstrasse) , with Indrustriehof as final destination (3 stops). Its 3. 5 Km walk so quiet possible in good weather. I can't say exactly what the taxi will cost. If an efficient route could be as little as 15 Euros. Could be 20 on a longer route. Some taxis are devious.

You don't want to pay with credit card for many reasons. I never ever take a 2 hour stay discount as I don't want to be under time pressure to choose a girl. You really should take your time and consider carefully who has the right chemistry for you. As a newbie, remember not to let the girl choose you. You must choose and carefully. The stronger the girl comes on to you, the more the reasons to stay away from her. You don't want to be her victim!Great information Syzygies. Thank you.

The stupid google maps said to take commuter train S3, S4 or S5 and get off after 3 stops at some place Rodelshiem? (spelling) and walk 2. 1 km. To Palace. The U bahn tram U4 and U6/7 will get me really close.

I also agree cash is king and I could find an ATM at Frankfurt main hfb before I start.

Also best to pay the 65 euros and stay for about 8 to 10 hours. I should be able to dodge the sharks but thanks for the warning.

Hessen Bub
06-16-13, 20:57
http://www.rmv.de/en/

Enter "Hauptbahnhof" to "Industriehof". It shows 13 minutes. U4 to Bockenheimer Warte, change to U6 or U7 to Industriehof.


Go by U-Bahn U4 from Frankfurt (Main) Hauptbahnhof towards Frankfurt (Main) Bockenheimer Warte to Frankfurt (Main) Bockenheimer Warte.

Your departure from Frankfurt (Main) Hauptbahnhof is on 16. 06. 13 at 21:58 hrs, Your arrival in Frankfurt (Main) Bockenheimer Warte is at 22:01 hrs.

Go by U-Bahn U7 from Frankfurt (Main) Bockenheimer Warte towards Frankfurt (Main) Hausen to Frankfurt (Main) Industriehof.

Your departure from Frankfurt (Main) Bockenheimer Warte is at 22:07 hrs, Your arrival in Frankfurt (Main) Industriehof is at 22:11 hrs.

The duration of your journey is: 0:13 hours.

Route operates on these days: daily, not 30. Nov. 7,14. Dec.

The number of connections is: 1.

We hope you enjoy travelling with us.Never took public transport to a Hessen club.

HB

Vito Corleone
06-17-13, 03:12
The best way to get to Palace is take U4 train to Bockenheimerwarte (2 stops) and change to U6 / U7 (toward Hausen / Heerstrasse) , with Indrustriehof as final destination (3 stops). Its 3. 5 Km walk so quiet possible in good weather.About a 5 minute walk from platform to Palace.

Magic191
06-21-13, 20:35
I have never been to World on Sunday so can't comment here. However, I find it difficult to decide between Oase and Palace, if you are able to cope with the sharks at the latter club.

At Oase things are quiet on Sunday but decent girls start coming in later on, from about 4-5 pm. So, if you can stay till 1830 then I would recommend Oase as you should find a good girl there later in the afternoon. If the weather is good and you want to sit outside then Oase is obviously the place.

However, the food is better at Palace (which is important before a flight) and I think that if you have to get to the airport earlier then this is a better bet as there are more attractive girls there earlier on in the afternoon.All for sharing your experiences, looking forward to next visit ti Frankfurt, and probably Palace as the time is limited.

North94
06-27-13, 05:15
Hello,

I'm new to this forum. I'm thinking of going to a FKK in germany, probably in Frankfurt.

How would someone young be seen at a club? I'm 19 and get the impression that most guys are 30+.

London Traveller
06-27-13, 07:35
Hello,

I'm new to this forum. I'm thinking of going to a FKK in germany, probably in Frankfurt.

How would someone young be seen at a club? I'm 19 and get the impression that most guys are 30+.You are right that most guys are older, but you will be popular with many of the girls. Enjoy!

Soft Bob
06-27-13, 17:23
Do you need to have valid I'd when you go to a FKK club?

Will a copy of your passport do if ID is required?

I prefer not to carry my passport with me when wandering around in a foreign city.

Ararat
06-27-13, 18:23
AFAIK you are required to have your passport on your person in Germany (and eg. USA) if you are an alien.

That said, the club won't ask for ID unless perhaps if you look too young.

Hessen Bub
06-27-13, 19:24
Everybody in Germany has to have a valid I'd / passport on him all the time. If you don't the police might take you to your hotel to check you identity. Why bother, just have your passport with you. Germany's a safe place, you are not in Teheran.

HB

Soft Bob
06-28-13, 16:23
I know that Germany is safe but certain travel precautions that I take include keeping a copy of my passport with me especially on trains and trams so that pickpockets do not have the pleasure of getting more than a couple of $100 at most. No credit cards or passport.

I guess when going to Palace I will just have to be extra careful as I will have about 500 euros in cash and my passport as you recommend.

Thanks

Loup123
06-28-13, 16:56
Hello,

I am planning my first trip to a fkk and have chosen FKK Oase. Does anyone know if it is possible to find a hotel room and pay cash? I don't want to receive a credit card statement back home for a hotel room in Germany.

Thanks in advance

Pharisaer
06-28-13, 20:26
Everybody in Germany has to have a valid I'd / passport on him all the time. If you don't the police might take you to your hotel to check you identity. Why bother, just have your passport with you. Germany's a safe place, you are not in Teheran. HBSorry, Mr. Hessenbub is wrong. You don't have to carry your I'd in Germany neither native nor alien. But you have to hand it out to entitled persons, if needed. That's the reason why it could be a good decision to carry your I'd with you. Note: Germany is a safe place in general. The surrounding of Palace FKK is safe as well, but the Frankfort RLD may be a little bit less safe.

Hessen Bub
06-28-13, 20:33
OK, you are right, you don't have to carry your I'd with you. But. If there's police in the club or anywhere else asking you to identify yourself you have to show your passport or I'd. So they will take you to your hotel. A copy won't help. So why bother and not carry your passport?

HB

Pharisaer
06-28-13, 21:20
Hello, I am planning my first trip to a fkk and have chosen FKK Oase. Does anyone know if it is possible to find a hotel room and pay cash? I don't want to receive a credit card statement back home for a hotel room in Germany. Thanks in advanceOf course you can pay cash. They love cash. If you just walk in and book your room: no problem. Sometimes they ask for your CC as a deposit, just tell them, you have none. But, if you book in advance, maybe by phone, and have to get your reservation guaranteed (usually if you arrive later than 6 pm) , you have to give them your CC number and your name in advance.

Loup123
06-28-13, 21:24
Of course you can pay cash. They love cash. If you just walk in and book your room: no problem. Sometimes they ask for your CC as a deposit, just tell them, you have none. But, if you book in advance, maybe by phone, and have to get your reservation guaranteed (usually if you arrive later than 6 pm) , you have to give them your CC number and your name in advance.Excellent! Thank You.

Hessen Bub
06-28-13, 21:48
Even if you give them your CC as a deposit you can still pay cash the next day.

HB

CuriousGeorge5
06-29-13, 23:16
Dear fellow punters.

I know my timing sucks as most places don't open till 10am and even then I don't suspect the good girls to come in until 11 to noon. Having said that, that is what I get to work with.

I've narrowed down to two FKK's: 1) Oase and 2) Dietzenbach.

Whilst my research indicate that that Oase would be my best bet on a Sunday morning in terms of the line up, I can't help but get get drawn to Dietzenbach for the 90/3 promo they have going. Then my honey brain would say 90/3, um. Very value for money but often you get what you pay for and I'm back to Oase again.

Originally I was thinking that I'll head to Oase first as they open at 10, and if I don't like it then I can go to Dietzenbach as they open at 11 on a Sunday. However as I'll be racing against time and logistical problems I think this plan is bound to end badly.

After my rant, I would be grateful to hear other members who know the FKK scene at lot better than I do in my sad little situation? Oase, Dietzenbach or another FKK?

Much obliged,

Cheers,

CG

London Traveller
06-30-13, 18:25
Dear fellow punters.

I know my timing sucks as most places don't open till 10am and even then I don't suspect the good girls to come in until 11 to noon. Having said that, that is what I get to work with.

I've narrowed down to two FKK's: 1) Oase and 2) Dietzenbach.

Whilst my research indicate that that Oase would be my best bet on a Sunday morning in terms of the line up, I can't help but get get drawn to Dietzenbach for the 90/3 promo they have going. Then my honey brain would say 90/3, um. Very value for money but often you get what you pay for and I'm back to Oase again.

Originally I was thinking that I'll head to Oase first as they open at 10, and if I don't like it then I can go to Dietzenbach as they open at 11 on a Sunday. However as I'll be racing against time and logistical problems I think this plan is bound to end badly.

After my rant, I would be grateful to hear other members who know the FKK scene at lot better than I do in my sad little situation? Oase, Dietzenbach or another FKK?

Much obliged,

Cheers,

CGIf you go to Oase at 10 then there will be hardly any girls. They aren't all lined up at that time! You can't tell what the line-up will be like even an hour or so later. I used to go early on Sunday and never managed to actually pick a girl until about 5pm. Anyway, breakfast is lousy at Oase. Go to Oase if the weather is good and you want to sit round the pool.

I would recommend that you go to Palace. There are decent girls there early on Sunday and the breakfast is great! You will miss the good weather though and you may need to pay a bit more for the best service from some of the girls.

Fuzz Bucket
06-30-13, 20:12
I have visited a fair few FKK's, but never in the summer. I have also lived & worked in Europe, so I'm fully aware that the girls must head out on vacation like the rest of Europe. /Q / I was planning on spending a week'ish visiting GT, PHG, Oase, World, Bernds, YY, etc. If I have the option to visit at the end of July or August, which timeframe would be better? Or is it really just a crap shoot based on club, day of the week, etc?

Thank you in advance.

Captain Dan's Alises
06-30-13, 20:24
I have visited a fair few FKK's, but never in the summer. I have also lived & worked in Europe, so I'm fully aware that the girls must head out on vacation like the rest of Europe. /Q / I was planning on spending a week'ish visiting GT, PHG, Oase, World, Bernds, YY, etc. If I have the option to visit at the end of July or August, which timeframe would be better? Or is it really just a crap shoot based on club, day of the week, etc?

Thank you in advance.I think that you are correct and some girls will go away for a few weeks in the summer. If I were to choose when to visit end of July or end of August with a view to perhaps fewer girls away from the clubs I would probably choose the end of August. I would be in hope that some of the girls (who were away) might be back a little early for the September Trade Fairs (particularly the Frankfurt Motor Show which happens mid-September). Although saying all that even if the clubs (particularly the bigger clubs) are a lttle depleted with regards to line-up, you can still have a really great time!

London Traveller
06-30-13, 21:59
I have visited a fair few FKK's, but never in the summer. I have also lived & worked in Europe, so I'm fully aware that the girls must head out on vacation like the rest of Europe. /Q / I was planning on spending a week'ish visiting GT, PHG, Oase, World, Bernds, YY, etc. If I have the option to visit at the end of July or August, which timeframe would be better? Or is it really just a crap shoot based on club, day of the week, etc?

Thank you in advance.I haven't visited all the clubs you mention but I have found that July is a good month to visit GT, Oase and World. PHG is far too noisy for me!

CuriousGeorge5
07-01-13, 01:50
If you go to Oase at 10 then there will be hardly any girls. They aren't all lined up at that time! You can't tell what the line-up will be like even an hour or so later. I used to go early on Sunday and never managed to actually pick a girl until about 5pm. Anyway, breakfast is lousy at Oase. Go to Oase if the weather is good and you want to sit round the pool.

I would recommend that you go to Palace. There are decent girls there early on Sunday and the breakfast is great! You will miss the good weather though and you may need to pay a bit more for the best service from some of the girls.Thank you London Traveller. That would actually work out even better for I don't have to run from one side of town to the other.

Cheers,

CG

Soft Bob
07-05-13, 17:44
From Frankfurt Hauptbahnoff to Palace is a short ride on U-bahn and a 5 min. Walk. But to get to Oase is a 30 min ride on S-bahn and then taxi ride.

I have one day in Frankfurt at the end of September (Wednesday) and it could be a bikini day at Palace, should I make the effort to go to Oase? Also is service generally better than Palace? Plan to stay at least 6 hours.

This will be my first visit and may also be my last.

Ortos
07-05-13, 20:02
From Frankfurt Hauptbahnoff to Palace is a short ride on U-bahn and a 5 min. Walk. But to get to Oase is a 30 min ride on S-bahn and then taxi ride.

I have one day in Frankfurt at the end of September (Wednesday) and it could be a bikini day at Palace, should I make the effort to go to Oase? Also is service generally better than Palace? Plan to stay at least 6 hours.

This will be my first visit and may also be my last.No brainer: Go to Oase. Take the S-bahn to Friedrichsdorf and then taxi. It'll be well worth it, imo,

O

Fuzz Bucket
07-06-13, 13:36
LT & CD. Thanks for the input. Decision made for me. Going end of July, beginning of August. Split the difference!


I have visited a fair few FKK's, but never in the summer. I have also lived & worked in Europe, so I'm fully aware that the girls must head out on vacation like the rest of Europe. /Q / I was planning on spending a week'ish visiting GT, PHG, Oase, World, Bernds, YY, etc. If I have the option to visit at the end of July or August, which timeframe would be better? Or is it really just a crap shoot based on club, day of the week, etc?

Thank you in advance.

BonePony
07-06-13, 20:55
A general question. I am planning another trip next week and have previously taken public transportation (train / cab). I am considering renting a car and wondered about the logistics of parking at the clubs. Is there any charge for parking, and has anyone encountered difficulty finding spots at other than the busiest times?

The clubs in question would be Oase, World, Palace, Mainhattan, Artemis, possible Acapulco. Thanks! BP

Trans Atlantic
07-06-13, 21:12
Free parking private lot: Oase, World, Yin Yang.

Free parking private lot limited availability: Golden Time, Acapulco. Goldentime has three lots and they fill up daily. Aca has a large lot but fills up during popular times.

Street parking (due to small or no private lot) : Magnum, Haus Panthera, Mainhattan, Dolce Vita, Living Room

Kraken1
07-07-13, 17:31
Can I enter a mobile phone or a laptop to the club?

Trans Atlantic
07-08-13, 03:48
Can I enter a mobile phone or a laptop to the club?Yes in all clubs if you keep them in the locker.

The ones I know of allowing mobile use in the club:

Mobile friendly clubs: Aca, GT, LR, Villa Vertigo.

No mobiles allowed: World, Harmony

Optimist
07-08-13, 17:14
I think it's ok to have a laptop in the screened off Beach Club area at World (if my knowledge is not out of date). But there is no wifi

Ortos
07-08-13, 19:29
I think it's ok to have a laptop in the screened off Beach Club area at World (if my knowledge is not out of date). But there is no wifiCorrect me if I am wrong: Isn't that like trying to get an egg from a Cow? Or up the creek with out a paddle?

O

Optimist
07-09-13, 11:57
Correct me if I am wrong: Isn't that like trying to get an egg from a Cow? OWell, I've always avoided the rear ends of any non-human female...... but I bow to your experience :) and assume you're correct. For foreign guests the lack of wifi makes computer / tablet / handy of very limited use

All For Bb
07-15-13, 01:18
Please advise if a trip to FKK in first 10 days in August good? Will girls be on vacation and line up down then? Thanks!

GstringLover
08-03-13, 19:16
Go to one of the larger, well known clubs like Artemis in Berlin or Oase near Frankfurt. Go on a busy night when there are good number of guys and girls. Pick out a girl and ask her clearly if she would be OK having sex with you in the kino. Based on my own experience, lots of girls (but not all of them) will agree. Then take her into the kino and enjoy. On a busy night, there will be other couples in the kino going at it and a few guys just enjoying the view.Belated thanks, Capt Renno!

I have yet to make it to either Artemis or Oase, but both are definitely on the "to do" list. Here's what I've learned so far:

- FKK Sakura in Stuttgart is the most public-sex-friendly FKK I've visited so far. Many, probably most of the girls there are up for public sex, and there are several locations to choose from. There's a circular bed off to the side of the main lounge, separated from the main lounge only be a see-through curtain. I've fucked on it several times. At a busy time, like Friday or Saturday evening, you're sure to have lots of onlookers. Next-best place is the Kino. There's a bed in it, and the chairs are comfy and extra-large. Great for blow jobs and foreplay. Many of the times I've visited, though, the Kino is empty, which takes some of the fun out of having sex there. When the weather is nice, you can also have sex in one of the two cabanas in the garden. I did that on my most recent visit, and the girl I was with had no problem leaving the curtains of the cabana open. One time (it was a weekday afternoon and not yet very busy) , a girl at Sakura had no problem with fucking me right on one of the couches in the main lounge.

- At FKK Paradise in Stuttgart, the Kino is the main place for public sex. Go at a busy time / day, and you'll have an audience. It's built as a series of upholstered layers with lots of pillows laying around. Your girl will instinctively lead you to the upper tier, where's its dark and most everyone else will be facing the opposite direction. On my most recent visit, I suggested to my girl that we do it on the lowest tier, right in front of the screen, which caused everyone else in the kino to see us. That was a lot more fun. In good weather, there are several cabanas with curtains on the roof. I haven't had a chance to try one of those yet.

- Public sex doesn't seem to be an option at FKK Colosseum in Augsburg. You pretty much have no choice but to go upstairs to a private room, a zimmer, when you've chosen a girl and are ready to fuck her. On the positive side, Colosseum has the most authentic "nudist" atmosphere. The girls are very high quality and are invariably wearing nothing but high heels and jewelry, none of the annoying lacy, frilly items that girls in other clubs are wearing most of the time when they're really supposed to be naked. The pool / sauna / jacuzzi / shower facilities, all arrayed around the main lounge in Colosseum, are great. And most, or maybe even all, of the girls there offer the option of making out in the jacuzzi before heading up to a room (100 euros seems to be the going rate for a jacuzzi session followed by a half-hour of sex). Nothing wrong with that. Making out with a beautiful girl in a jacuzzi, you and she are both naked, and you're in full view of everyone else there.

Gesab
08-05-13, 07:12
I am thinking of going to an FKK while in Germany next month, but I suffer from premature ejaculation. I am very sensitive and embarrassed about this issue. Do the hookers care?

Cucumber
08-05-13, 11:50
I have never been to an FKK. Can one use them like a hotel and sleep overnight in addition to mongering, or should one have a hotel to return to after the FKK? (I will be in Frankfurt and Essen areas).

Banana Boi
08-05-13, 14:03
I am thinking of going to an FKK while in Germany next month, but I suffer from premature ejaculation. I am very sensitive and embarrassed about this issue. Do the hookers care?They won't care at all and you could possibly become their favorite customer for an easy session.

Jimmy Boy 99
08-05-13, 14:37
I am thinking of going to an FKK while in Germany next month, but I suffer from premature ejaculation. I am very sensitive and embarrassed about this issue. Do the hookers care?Jack-off in the rest room before you go looking for a girl. That should slow you down a bit in the room.

SunterBoi
08-05-13, 14:49
Hi everyone,

I'm planning to go to Munich on Oktoberfest and would like to try FKK Colosseum in Augsburg as I already search it is the best club around Munich. Am I right? Or there are any other FFKK club closer to Munich which has better girls than Colosseum?

Anyway, I'm planning to take train and taxi to Colosseum, I'm wondering if there is taxi roaming around fkk Colosseum at 11:30 to midnight as I consider to get the last train back to Munich.

Thank you.

Optimist
08-05-13, 15:13
Gesab. And don't forget. You pay for half hour and don't have to leave the room as soon as you come. A good worker will offer massage or at least some chat. Most girls will be happy if you are a quick finisher

Jimmy Boy 99
08-05-13, 17:52
Gesab. And don't forget. You pay for half hour and don't have to leave the room as soon as you come. A good worker will offer massage or at least some chat. Most girls will be happy if you are a quick finisherMany, if not most, girls operate under rule that 30 minutes is the maximum time, not the guaranteed time, and if you finish before 30 minutes, they have done their job and the session is over. Since he is presumably new to the FKK scene and does not know who the good workers are, he should tell the girl up front that he comes very quickly and is not interested in going with her if she is going to leave the session as soon as he comes. If she agrees, fine. If not, he has saved 50 Euro. Another way to extend the time he can last in the session is not to do the BJ and sex right away, but do more foreplay, like massaging and kissing her, and DATY.

UltraHappy
08-06-13, 02:35
Many, if not most, girls operate under rule that 30 minutes is the maximum time, not the guaranteed time, and if you finish before 30 minutes, they have done their job and the session is over. Since he is presumably new to the FKK scene and does not know who the good workers are, he should tell the girl up front that he comes very quickly and is not interested in going with her if she is going to leave the session as soon as he comes. If she agrees, fine. If not, he has saved 50 Euro. Another way to extend the time he can last in the session is not to do the BJ and sex right away, but do more foreplay, like massaging and kissing her, and DATY.Jimmy Boy's recommendation for addressing this upfront is spot on in this situation. But, if anyone ever finds themselves in this situation where a girl tries to leave the room way before the 30 minutes is up, let her leave. Just sit in the room. She can't really leave you unless she wants to give up her 50 Euros. You paid for 30 minutes. Once she sees that you aren't leaving the room, she won't be going anywhere. Of course, that doesn't mean that she will service you anymore, but you will at least have made your point and prevented her from taking advantage of you and she won't be able to get to any other customers on account of trying to cheat you out of your 30 minutes. Just sit there calmly with a smile on your face until the 27 minute mark and then you can stroll to the lockers and pay her. Of course, this is a pretty crappy option for the guy too. I imagine it would be rather boring just sitting there waiting for the 27 minute mark to arrive. I'm sure just pulling this stunt for 4-5 minutes would be enough to make your point that you decide when it's time to leave the room, not her.

It's pretty rare for me to find a girl who makes the first move to leave the room, even after I finish. Just about all girls I go with wait for my signal that it's time to go.

Gesab
08-07-13, 03:47
Thank you for the advice. Just one more question: do you all bring your own condoms to the FKKs?

UltraHappy
08-07-13, 15:02
Thank you for the advice. Just one more question: do you all bring your own condoms to the FKKs?Girls provide these. You don't have to bring anything with you except lots of cash.

I would recommend bringing mouth wash with you. Put it in your locker for freshening up between sessions and after meals.

You may want to bring your own deodorant with you for after showering if you don't like the club's spray-on brand.

You are all ready now. Have fun!

Hessen Bub
08-07-13, 15:51
Thank you for the advice. Just one more question: do you all bring your own condoms to the FKKs?Go to FKK Dietzenbach. No need for condoms. ;)

HB

Optimist
08-08-13, 14:11
Condoms. Yes the girls provide their own but they are usually of a very robust and cheap style. So you might want to take your own better quality ones (although some girls will be suspicious of this). It is always a good sign when you find a rare girl who provides upmarket condoms herself

MrAdams
09-02-13, 20:49
Gesab. And don't forget. You pay for half hour and don't have to leave the room as soon as you come. A good worker will offer massage or at least some chat. Most girls will be happy if you are a quick finisherBut when does the time begin?

Is it when I enter the room?

If she has massaged my precious one and kissed me a little bit as a tease in the kino or some public place elsewhere, can she then claim that x minutes have already passed when we finally enter the room?

Hessen Bub
09-02-13, 21:13
Is it when I enter the room?

If she has massaged my precious one and kissed me a little bit as a tease in the kino or some public place elsewhere, can she then claim that x minutes have already passed when we finally enter the room?It's when you enter the room unless you had more than 5 min of DFK and BBBJ outside the room, then I would suggest to add that to the room time.

HB

Syzygies
09-03-13, 06:25
But when does the time begin?

Is it when I enter the room?

If she has massaged my precious one and kissed me a little bit as a tease in the kino or some public place elsewhere, can she then claim that x minutes have already passed when we finally enter the room?Many girls don't like if you try to get free session time. A session can be in the kino, in a room, in the yard, on a couch, or anywhere. Okay A hello kiss clearly doesn't count, nor a bit of cock stroking over the towel, but once you clearly start going at it, one way or another, you should regard the session as having started. Wait time for the room is normally not counted unless you are indulged in heavy sex play. Just how much you can get away with probably depends on the girl.

Really the girl should warn you if she believes the time has started. So probably in your case the time should not have started however you are a bit too vague to be sure. You should know if you were in the kino or somewhere else and exactly what you did there. Many sex sessions commence in the kino and then move to a room. You can't expect to get the entire Kino part for free, unless very little actually occurred there, and you headed to the room directly.

Member #4364
09-03-13, 19:30
My experience; you meet a girl on the sofa; talking, maybe touching is ok;

I can say round 10 minutes; but touching the pussy; time is running.

And; I'm frequently costumer in my club; so the girls knowing me so.

It's not a question to count the minutes.

Solo Traveler
09-27-13, 12:00
Hi,

I will go to Frankfurt for FKK Club on November.

I have some detailed questions about FKK Sauna Club in Frankfurt. (I do the research all over the Internet, but I can't find the answers.)

Q1: After my research, the most high rating FKK clubs around Frankfurt are: Oase, World, Shark, Palace, and Mainhattan.

Finally, I decide to go to Oase, World, Shark, and Palace.

However, it seems to be very cold during November.

I wonder will the cold weather affect the the outdoor areas of Oase, World, and Shark? Will they shut down the outdoor area?

(Palace don't seem to have any outdoor areas at all, so I guess the weather is not a problem for Palace.)

Q2: I'm nearsighted. I usually wear a pair of glasses, but sometimes wear Contact lenses.

I am afraid that the heat caused by the sauna facilities in the club will damage my Contact lenses.

I am also afraid that it will inconvenient for me to wear a glasses when I'm having exercise with the girls.

Therefore, glasses or Contact lenses, which one should I wear when going to a FKK Sauna Club?

Q3: Can I bring my own laptop into the club to surf the Internet and check emails when I feel bored in the club?

I know they don't allow photoing there, so the smartphone may be forbiddened.

What about a laptop?

Thanks, guys.

Banana Boi
09-27-13, 15:14
You will always have access to the outdoor area year round except it will be cold. Contact lenses are fine. Never had an issue with mine.

Trans Atlantic
09-27-13, 17:44
Thanks a lot.I wear one day disposable contact lens.

Simex
09-27-13, 23:45
No Laptops or Ipads allowed in any of the clubs you mentioned.

You can bring a smartphone and use it discreetly in the rooms.

Presuming the girls don't mind.


Hi,

Q3: Can I bring my own laptop into the club to surf the Internet and check emails when I feel bored in the club?

I know they don't allow photoing there, so the smartphone may be forbiddened.

What about a laptop?

Thanks, guys.

Solo Traveler
09-29-13, 14:20
No Laptops or Ipads allowed in any of the clubs you mentioned.

You can bring a smartphone and use it discreetly in the rooms.

Presuming the girls don't mind.Thanks,

As a foreign tourist, I don't want to get into any trouble.

Therefore, I think I will just leave all of my stuff in the locker.

DrPorn
10-10-13, 06:24
I have never been to a FKK and have done some research that tells me that prices are higher in Zurich (Globe) vs Germany. In November, I will be staying near the Zurich airport 1 day. Is it much cheaper to take a train across the German border and visit a FKK there? If so, where is the closest FKK (Konstanz?)?

Or is it not worth the hassle of the train ride and I should just stay local and visit Globe or Bumsalp?

Do these places take credit cards or do you have to have cash for the ladies?

Thank you!

Banana Boi
10-15-13, 06:23
If you only have 1 day stay in Zurich. If you have a few days take a train up to FRA or NRW. Personally I would never make a special trip from germany to Globe but I would be happy there if I had a day in Zurich.

ShoesAndSocks
10-15-13, 06:44
I have never been to a FKK and have done some research that tells me that prices are higher in Zurich (Globe) vs Germany. In November, I will be staying near the Zurich airport 1 day. Is it much cheaper to take a train across the German border and visit a FKK there? If so, where is the closest FKK (Konstanz?)?

Or is it not worth the hassle of the train ride and I should just stay local and visit Globe or Bumsalp?

Do these places take credit cards or do you have to have cash for the ladies?

Thank you!If only one day in Zurich (and especially if you're not likely to visit again), I'd definitely recommend the Globe going by my first visits there mid-year. Based on my FKK experience of Palace, Oase (FRA) , and Artemis (BER) , you'll be starting at the top in terms of service, so I'd accept paying a premium for what should prove to be a very memorable "bucket list" experience.

Easily reached by train from Kloten (via Oerlikon station) to Schwerzenbach (see.

www.sbb.ch

For details).

Money-wise, you can pay by card or cash (in CHF, of course). I'd suggest cash, as I'm sure there would be a surcharge when using your card. It's 140 CHF / 30 mins, and you pay 105 CHF on entry (10 CHF of which is a refundable key deposit).

Arjun31
10-15-13, 15:56
Hey guys,

Visiting Frankfurt for the first time and would be staying near the trade fair. Did some research on the forum and got some very useful info. Based on that looks like FKK Palace seems to be the closed option. Would be really helpful if you could suggest any other FKKs near the trade fair.

Cheers

Hessen Bub
10-15-13, 16:50
Closest is Palace. Then in that order: Mainhattan. Oase. Sharks. World. Not including the smaller options like Royal, Atlanta, Bahama.

HB

Syzygies
10-15-13, 18:37
Hey guys,

Visiting Frankfurt for the first time and would be staying near the trade fair. Did some research on the forum and got some very useful info. Based on that looks like FKK Palace seems to be the closed option. Would be really helpful if you could suggest any other FKKs near the trade fair.

CheersPalace is about 4 to 5 km away and Mainhatten about 8 to 9 km away. The next closest is Oase at 20 km. So it really depends on what method you are considering to get there and how much you want it to cost.

Taxi To Sharks or World is really too expensive, but has been known to happen, particularly for groups sharing the cost.

If you are prepared to catch a train part way to Oase then taxi, that can reduce the cost. If you will have a hire car, Sharks also comes into contention as takes not much more time to get there compared to Mainhatten.

You can get to Palace by S-Bahn train to Hauptwache, then U-bahn 6 or 7 to Industriehopf. Or by S-Bahn to Roedelheim then Bus 34 (in direction of Bornheim Mitte) to Industriehopf. So taxi not really necessary but will be a lot quicker.

Taxi return from Oase at night can cost just 35 Euros if the taxi takes optimal method (sometimes they don't as they want to receive more).

It's hard to recommend what is best without knowing how much time you have and which day it will be. I am closest to Palace but like it the least.

SunnyPuraVida
10-15-13, 20:16
Hi all, my first post on here.

I am going to be 1 day in Frankfurt landing on Oct 23rd at 10:45 am. I plan to spend a day in either Oase or Palace. I have to go back to the airport approx 7:30pm.

I will be again going to the one of the two on Mon Oct 28th for one day.

Does anyone want to share a taxi ride from the airport to either one of these places?

It's my first time here guys. Very excited

Sunny


Palace is about 4 to 5 km away and Mainhatten about 8 to 9 km away. The next closest is Oase at 20 km. So it really depends on what method you are considering to get there and how much you want it to cost.

Taxi To Sharks or World is really too expensive, but has been known to happen, particularly for groups sharing the cost.

If you are prepared to catch a train part way to Oase then taxi, that can reduce the cost. If you will have a hire car, Sharks also comes into contention as takes not much more time to get there compared to Mainhatten.

You can get to Palace by S-Bahn train to Hauptwache, then U-bahn 6 or 7 to Industriehopf. Or by S-Bahn to Roedelheim then Bus 34 (in direction of Bornheim Mitte) to Industriehopf. So taxi not really necessary but will be a lot quicker.

Taxi return from Oase at night can cost just 35 Euros if the taxi takes optimal method (sometimes they don't as they want to receive more).

It's hard to recommend what is best without knowing how much time you have and which day it will be. I am closest to Palace but like it the least.

SharkEater
10-15-13, 22:07
We should know the closest club is not always the fastest one from Frankfurt Hbf. World is definitely the worst accessible club from Frankfurt center that takes 50min (40min train + 10 min taxi). Palace is 25 min (20min S-bahn and U-bahn + 5min walk). If I spent whole day in the club, these travel time differences are almost nothing. You can just go to the club you want!

Solo Traveler
10-15-13, 23:29
Taxi return from Oase at night can cost just 35 Euros if the taxi takes optimal method (sometimes they don't as they want to receive more).Yes, I've just seen another punter mentioned that he successfully negotiated with the taxi driver, and get the fixed price of 35 EUR from Oase back to Frankfurt Hbf at night.

However, this "35 EUR price from Oase to Frankfurt Hbf" taxi fare really seems to depend on the mood of the taxi driver.

You can't get this kind of good deal everytime.

Do anybody know what's the most common fixed price one can get from the taxi driver?

Is it better to have a fixed price negotiation or by meter from Oase back to Frankfurt Hbf at night?

ShoesAndSocks
10-16-13, 06:43
Yes, I've just seen another punter mentioned that he successfully negotiated with the taxi driver, and get the fixed price of 35 EUR from Oase back to Frankfurt Hbf at night.

However, this "35 EUR price from Oase to Frankfurt Hbf" taxi fare really seems to depend on the mood of the taxi driver.

You can't get this kind of good deal everytime.

Do anybody know what's the most common fixed price one can get from the taxi driver?

Is it better to have a fixed price negotiation or by meter from Oase back to Frankfurt Hbf at night?Every time I've got a taxi from the station to Oase, the taxi driver has given me his card and told me to get the club to ring him when I was ready to get changed and leave. During my last visits in June and August 2013, I was quoted 35 EUR back to Frankfurt. One trip was to Hbf, other time to airport.

Arjun31
10-16-13, 19:23
Palace is about 4 to 5 km away and Mainhatten about 8 to 9 km away. The next closest is Oase at 20 km. So it really depends on what method you are considering to get there and how much you want it to cost.

Taxi To Sharks or World is really too expensive, but has been known to happen, particularly for groups sharing the cost.

If you are prepared to catch a train part way to Oase then taxi, that can reduce the cost. If you will have a hire car, Sharks also comes into contention as takes not much more time to get there compared to Mainhatten.

You can get to Palace by S-Bahn train to Hauptwache, then U-bahn 6 or 7 to Industriehopf. Or by S-Bahn to Roedelheim then Bus 34 (in direction of Bornheim Mitte) to Industriehopf. So taxi not really necessary but will be a lot quicker.

Taxi return from Oase at night can cost just 35 Euros if the taxi takes optimal method (sometimes they don't as they want to receive more).

It's hard to recommend what is best without knowing how much time you have and which day it will be. I am closest to Palace but like it the least.Thank you guys for the prompt replies,at Syzygies.

Would be in Frankfurt for about 4 days. Tuesday-Saturday. After having done some research on the forum, felt that Palace was ideal but now after reading your post I am kinda skeptical.

Have time to visit only one of the FKKs as I have a tight work schedule. Probably planning to go at 4 PM and stay for a few hours and return back just before mid-night. If not palace what would you suggest would be better. Staying at the Holiday Inn express (Messe).

Thank you