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Dragon Slayer
01-01-07, 02:00
Thread Starter.

Dragon Slayer
04-11-07, 01:22
Pals,

I do not live in the Philippines but I am in the process of purchasing a second home here. I have so many close friends here now, Spamhogs, GoodEnough, Henny, Maurice O'Flanaganand very shortly, Coolerbrew. I think that buying home here (for a fraction of what the same house would sell for in my City) is a good idea.

One of the things I would try to do is live here during the US summer months of June, July and August. With cellphones and the Internet, plus DHL and LBC, I think I can conduct business for this period with out venturing back home. I once did seven weeks in Davao staying with GoodEnough. I was not prepared for the long duration away but have made many adjustments since then.

I will have a maid at the house but not sure about moving my Jen or someone else into it. I told GoodEnough a week ago that I would most likely stay for a night or two at either Casa Leticia or Marco Polo when I was entertaining non-Pro Davao Pussy, with the exception of my Jen or my Son or Daughter and their Mother's (only one at a time, naturally). They have occupations and both have homes on the respective islands where they live which I pay for (one is a house I had built).

I still have memories of early on in my travels to the Philippines when I had a woman pounding at my door demanding to be let in. Or the huge titted, 19 year old Marites in Cebu City, demanding, "Slayer, send the girl out now. I want to talk with you". I am uncertain that letting them know you have a permanent residence in the City, even on a Gated Compund with Security Guards (nothing will stop a determined woman), will make for much privacy.

Dragon Slayer

GoodEnough
04-14-07, 01:49
I could not resist posting here, since I also followed DS as (I think) the second poster on the original Davao thread. So this was a chance for history to repeat itself.

Slayer, the house you looked at the last time is still for sale and is almost sure to remain on the market until you arrive here again. The market here is small, in comparison to the US or Europe, and the universe of folks who can afford homes in gated communities is not expanding very rapidly. In fact, if you believe recent articles on the economy here, the rich are surely getting richer but the growth is not trickling down and the middle class/upper class is not expanding very much.

GE

Dragon Slayer
04-18-07, 17:41
Thanks GoodEnough. Soon you will have 1000 posts. Not bad! I will leave information here in my City for the wiring of necessary funds to put a down payment on the house, assuming I can reach favorable terms with the "pirate" who owns it. Having it vacant and never lived in for nearly a year now would make the owner a motivated seller back here in the USA. however, i have heard that these guys will "hang tough" for 2-3 years waiting for their cash price to "come home".

I will offer to make a rent/purchase on the house, giving a significant down payment, moving in and paying "rent" for 1-2 years. Then, the agreed balance will transfer. We need to get Rosanna to sell this to the owner. This way he has cash flow and up front capital, sufficient enough to assure a favorable outcome.

I just cannot see the point of payhing cash for an appreciating asset. Makes no sense at all. This is a house, not an automobile or boat that I am buying. I will arrange for my daughter to come down to sign the papers also as my co-owner and I will sign on behalf of my son (he was formally adopted by me, his real father, and has my Family Name).

My other option is to simply wait for the condos now under construction. I may even make an offer on one of them now to really mess up the head of the owner of the house.

Dragon Slayer

Spam Hog
04-21-07, 05:55
Thanks GoodEnough. Soon you will have 1000 posts. Not bad! I will leave information here in my City for the wiring of necessary funds to put a down payment on the house, assuming I can reach favorable terms with the "pirate" who owns it. Having it vacant and never lived in for nearly a year now would make the owner a motivated seller back here in the USA. however, i have heard that these guys will "hang tough" for 2-3 years waiting for their cash price to "come home".

I will offer to make a rent/purchase on the house, giving a significant down payment, moving in and paying "rent" for 1-2 years. Then, the agreed balance will transfer. We need to get Rosanna to sell this to the owner. This way he has cash flow and up front capital, sufficient enough to assure a favorable outcome.

I just cannot see the point of payhing cash for an appreciating asset. Makes no sense at all. This is a house, not an automobile or boat that I am buying. I will arrange for my daughter to come down to sign the papers also as my co-owner and I will sign on behalf of my son (he was formally adopted by me, his real father, and has my Family Name).

My other option is to simply wait for the condos now under construction. I may even make an offer on one of them now to really mess up the head of the owner of the house.

Dragon SlayerBe CAREFUL WITH REAL ESTATE! The Market here makes no sense, houses that would otherwise sell quickly stay on the market for years and years, while their owner tries to get the price HE thinks its worth and at the terms he wants IE cash, cash, cash or more cash, I have found FEW examples of owner financed or rent to own terms, these people cannot get it thru their skulls that they would make more money and sell their property faster if they came up with owner financing plans, but forget any kind of credit here unless you are a local VIP, flunking out on a loan is de riguer, so you can see their point. But they will let a property sit for years at an exhorbitant price before selling it for owner financed terms in which they could probably make more money with interest. Go figure.

Also get a lawyer to draw up a contract and research the title, make sure all Heirs or the rest of the family is contacted and in agreement with the sale.

A 'clean' title means nothing, someone in the family can and maybe will file a claim as an heir if you don't research it.

Dragon Slayer
04-21-07, 17:42
Spamhogs is correct But I have no intention of paying cash. I will check out the situation when I am here. I will also look at the plans for Davao's first Condos, supposedly under construction now. I have a Law Firm in Cebu City which has done legal work for me. I will seek advice from them. I will also see if the owner of the one house is now becoming flexible. I offered back in November to give a 40% DP and Balance is a couple years. He was not contacted but the Agent with the listing said he wanted to sell outright. Been six months since that time.

I just think it would be nice to have my own Place where I can leave my clothes and personal effects and not have to be concerned about Hotels during Sinulog or the Convention period. Be adding another Asset to my portfolio.

In any event I want to see the lovely Real Estate Agent again. I have to time everything as I will be meeting the Davao Stalker Lady this trip (we need some material for "exciting posts").

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
06-06-07, 00:33
Guys,

I mentioned before about my home on Leyte. I stayed here for several days this past Trip. During March, April, May & June the philippines is a combination of very hot and humid. Where my home is on Leyte is accessible via a 2 1/2 hour boat ride. Then a tricycle ride for 15 minutes to the Village. Located directly on the beach it has beautiful views of the ocean.

I have not yet installed air conditioning in the house, so while I stayed there it was absolutely miserable. At other times of the year it is better. But the main thing to contend wit is its remoteness and the abscence of many amenities. Fishing boating, sun bathing and swimming are the primary activities. For a single guy there are man available women here. You have to like them in the 18-23 year range. If single after this, most will leave to sek employment in the ajor cities or overseas. There are a few available women age 25-40 but you have mostly young, olive skinned girls here. But plenty of them.

For me with my daughter and her mother here there is no oportunity for seeking other women. I did bring the Kid here twice, but each time he could stay only one day as he had to move on. This was unfortunate because on this last Trip a coupe young girls approached my daughter's mother about getting set up with him.

I spent much of my time here sitting under a coconut tree on the beach or watching dvds with a couple of fans going. It was much too hot to be out in the water on a boat. The food is fresh fish, including squid and octopus. Also, chicken, pork, lamb and meat from the market on Saturday mornings. While staying here I always dine magnificently.

The nightlife is nonexistent. There are a couple Bars in the town where the boat docks that have girls to be fucked for less than P700. I keep trying to organize a mongering night here with a couple of the brothers of my woman, all of whom are married. There are two of these Bars that i am aware of and plenty of karaoke Clubs and many filipino restaurants. You need to arrange transportation there at night as there are no taxis r jeepneys running.

Living on these remote Islands is not for me and I soon departed for Ormoc, one of my favorite cities in the Philippines.

Dragon Slayer

TeenieWeenie
06-27-07, 03:23
Hey Guys.

Even though I am ATTEMPTING, (not too successfully! ), not to monger much anymore, I still like posting on this forum because there is much less be. S. Here than other places.

So. If you don't mind, which city in Mindanao do you think is best for a somewhat naive American to live in? Davao? CDO? My sweetie is from the Zamboanga peninsula, but I am afraid to live there!

And just what is the typical filipina's attitude towards extra-marital sex? When the inevitable occurs, and I get caught with my pants down, will I be subject to the same shrieking male-bashing that happens here in the USA?

Thanks!

Dragon Slayer
06-28-07, 10:25
Guys,

I would go for Davao. Zamboanga is NOT a place for a westerner to live. CDO is still too primitive, I think. Some guys live there but it would get boring. Davao has the Clubs, restaurants, an excellent int'l Airport and many great communities in which to live.

As to getting caught. I have gotten caught more times than i care to relate. is it like in the USA? No, fortunately. No one goes crazy, beats you or swears at you. She will cry for hours and seek solace with relatives. Not a good scen but I remember in my early 20's getting caught by the fucking "demon from hell" white girlfriend I had back then. All 5 ft, 95# (flat chested to boot) of her began to beat the fucking shit out of me infront of oh about 100 people. Using the worst language imaginable to describe me while doing this

I ended up with a bloody eye and a torn shirt from this C___. Got rid of her eventually and never loked back. Asian women will get upset but most likely you will survive intact and she will eventually forgive you. I cannot say the same for Chinese women however. My Shanghai Baby (see photos in old Davao) left me and that was it. I did apologize but she would have none of it.

Dragon Slayer

GoodEnough
06-29-07, 11:05
Probably Davao, though I would seriously consider CDO as well. It's booming now and has an international airport, enough expats so you will not lose your English, lots of nice housing, lots of restaurants and enough clubs so you will never be bored. I agree with DS about Zamboanga, from where I returned this Wednesday. It's perfectly safe, but it's too small and too third world.

The thing about Filipinas is that deep down, they know and accept the fact that all men are assholes and are going to play. The best policy is strictly "don't ask, don't tell." If she does catch you, DS hit is exactly right. You'll get 304 days of "tempo" with lots of crying, pouting and zero verbal communication, but that's about it.

Meanwhile, there are some things you can do to cut down on the odds of being caught. First and foremost, don't play in your own zip code. If you live in Davao, go to CDO, Zamboanga, Manila, to play. Second, do not give out your primary cell number. Buy another sim card and/or another phone and remember to change the card/phone back to the original before you get home. If you ignore these rules, sooner or latter your plaything(s) are gonna text you and your wife/girlfriend will see the phone that you forgot to put in your pocket and left lying on the table. At that point, you're screwed and the dreaded tempo will begin. The third bit of advice, if you're going to enter into some sort of committed relationship here, is to have only one such relationship. Do not establish any sort of expectations on the part of your playthings.

If you stick to some basic rules of prudence, you can cut way down on the odds of being caught.

Just my opinion of course.

GE

GoodEnough
07-30-07, 17:42
this should more appropriately be on a manila thread, but seeing as we do not yet have one in this forum i will post it here.

i was in manila on thursday night, and decided, after work and dinner to head down to ermita to see what i could see. of course, i first ending up at la cafe, but it was early and the pickings were sparse, so i decided to come back later and headed up the street to amazonia. i keep going back there in the futile hope that one day i'll find someone, but tonight, as with every other time i've ever been there, the choices were very limited and very few. i know that other guys have gotten lucky there. i never came even close.

by now, it's about 9:30 and i headed up to padre faura to the gpoint. the gpoint has always been one of my favorite bars there since (1) it's clean and reasonably attractive and (2) there's always room to sit down. it's somehow more relaxed than la and it's surely much cleaner, though only 20% the size. there were several couples rep001tered around and probably 10-15 unattached women, most of whom (but not all) did not appeal to me. i started chatting to a cutie at the bar and all of a sudden my conversation was interrupted when another cute young thing pulled out a bar stool and wedged herself in next to me. i would have considered taking her, but she immediately starting talking about money, and how much she needed for short time, and how much for long, and i told her i wasn't interested. she couldn't take a hint so i just left the place and strolled back to la.

la by now was, as usual at that time, packed, with the usual ratio of 5-6 women for every guy and 1 good looking woman to every 15 not-so-good looking woman. there were a couple that were really cute, and i immediately tried to get something going but got shot down each time. now i'm getting older, have started to get more than a few wrinkles and physically, i'm less than a dream date for a 22 year old, so i didn't take offense. it occurred to me later that they may have been waiting for their mamasans or get jumped by one of the korean guys but i didn't obsess on it very much.

having been shot down by two downstairs, i decided to head upstairs and didn't see much to my liking there either; except as i was about to leave. i happened to glance over at one of the tables and saw one of the two or three prettiest women i've ever seen. i sat down. we had drinks and then left to get something to eat at the shwarma restaurant up the street. she had never had middle eastern food, and i've only rarely had a woman that stunning on my arm, so i guess we were even. anyway, after thirty minutes or so she was all over me and it was time to leave and head back to the hotel before the mood left her.

as it has so many times in the past, la came through for me. in my view, it's still the best deal in town if you have the patience to wait.

Dragon Slayer
07-31-07, 08:32
Guys,

Another excellent Post here by GoodEnough. I spent a lot of time in Manila in the early 90's and Makati in the late 90's. Since then my time is taken mainly between Cebu and Davao (HOME). However, this Trip I spent 3 nights with my Jen (my Lady NOT my slave; refers to me as her "slayer"). We went over to Burgos Street so I could stop at a wine store on Makati Avenue and pick up "provisions". We then hit two of the clubs on Burgos St. Being the afternoon we were the only customers in each Club. There were 10-20 girls dancing and hanging out in each place, mostly 18-22.

The afternoon is a good time to hangout in these Clubs, get cheaper drinks during Happy Hour and relax. Plenty of places to grab a decent/inexpensive meal also. However, the women tend to want P3000/nt. However, last year I did get a lady to stay with me for P1000. She was off work and I did not have to deal with the barfine. She was willing to stay the night but I had a cute, young co-ed dropping by later that night. She droped by the next day to see me but I had another lady with huge tits there.

Even with the young, regular girls I am not certain how much looks has to do with it. In my young days as a ballplayer I was 50 ponunds lighter, worked our daily and looked good. I did not even come close to scoring the quality of pussy I am getting today. yes, i did have my share (and then some) of beautiful 18-23 y/o's back then but nothing Like I had this last Trip to Davao. no fucking way!

What is the difference? Money? Perhaps. When talking to a couple of professional ballplayer clients of mine, they stated emphatically that even for them in their 20's (good looking guys also), money was the primary motivator for a woman to get interested in them. Not their looks or the fact that they are in the NBA or MLB.

But face it, in the Philippines the women, especially the young ones, cannot differentiate froma guy making $25,000/Yr to one earning $ 250,000/Yr. This is a fact. I saw guys getting by on "allowances" from Mom and Dad (in one case a rich, older auntie in the Netherlands) who managed to land hot looking, young filipinas.

I firmly believe that the key factor in meeting and fucking regular, young filipinas (and not so young) is your outward appearance and your attitude. Dress nicely, leave the shorts and white t shirts and sandals for around your apartment. Lose the white sweat socks also. Ladies are not impressed by the "farmer look". Be clean, neat and look and smell good ( I met two women who sais they had met previously foreign men with bad breath and body odor). Smile a lot, be friendly and be polite. You will do great no matter what your income is or your age.

Dragon Slayer

GoodEnough
08-15-07, 07:40
I am in Manila today, and had a bunch of appointments scheduled throughout the day. This morning however, it started to pour and within an hour, the entire street in front of my hotel was flooded. It looked like Lake Michigan and even had waves that started to lap at the front steps of the hotel. This made traffic in much of Makati impassable and I am literally a prisoner in the hotel for the entire day and have been forced to reschedule everything for tomorrow. Now the lack of adequate drainage has plagued this city (and this country) for more than 20 years and for more than 20 years nothing has been done.

The total indifference to public safety, public convenience, public health or much of anything else on the part of the government is symptomatic of the entire country in which nothing works as it's supposed to (except the women), and inefficiency and incompetence are synonyms for life as usual. After five years, innumerable frustrations and amazement at the total incompetence of the place, it's all starting to get to me and the obvious attractions of young women, easy sex and cheap prices may not longer be sufficient compensation. To add insult to injury, my wife called me this afternoon to tell me that the cable company had just disconnected our house. Of course, we never received a bill, never received any notice of intent to disconnect, never a phone call or any communications, and this form a company with which I've been doing business for five years and whose bills I have always paid in full and on time.

This place is the Africa of SE Asia and it ain't ever gonna get better.

GE

Tom77
08-30-07, 10:22
Probably Davao, though I would seriously consider CDO as well. It's booming now and has an international airport, enough expats so you will not lose your English, lots of nice housing, lots of restaurants and enough clubs so you will never be bored. I agree with DS about Zamboanga, from where I returned this Wednesday. It's perfectly safe, but it's too small and too third world.

The thing about Filipinas is that deep down, they know and accept the fact that all men are assholes and are going to play. The best policy is strictly "don't ask, don't tell." If she does catch you, DS hit is exactly right. You'll get 304 days of "tempo" with lots of crying, pouting and zero verbal communication, but that's about it.

Meanwhile, there are some things you can do to cut down on the odds of being caught. First and foremost, don't play in your own zip code. If you live in Davao, go to CDO, Zamboanga, Manila, to play. Second, do not give out your primary cell number. Buy another sim card and/or another phone and remember to change the card/phone back to the original before you get home. If you ignore these rules, sooner or latter your plaything(s) are gonna text you and your wife/girlfriend will see the phone that you forgot to put in your pocket and left lying on the table. At that point, you're screwed and the dreaded tempo will begin. The third bit of advice, if you're going to enter into some sort of committed relationship here, is to have only one such relationship. Do not establish any sort of expectations on the part of your playthings.

If you stick to some basic rules of prudence, you can cut way down on the odds of being caught.

Just my opinion of course.

GEI now live in PI also, and really love your name. Everything is "good enough", which in this country is another phrase for "below acceptable standards".

I have lived in Asia for years and am very good at "don't ask, don't tell" and covering my tracks. Yesterday, I got busted good. As I sat in the bar playing with a really sexy girl friend, I forgot to buy peanuts from the blasted peanut vendor. So the prick ran the block and a half to my wife's boutique and squealed on me.

The moral of this story is: Don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the peanut vendor.

GoodEnough
08-31-07, 01:09
Ah Tom, you played in your own zip code area and got nailed but good. I won't even ask what you had to cope with once the wife found out. And to play around in your immediate neighborhood is truly playing with fire I guess. When it gets to the point that the peanut vendor knows your personal details it may be time to change neighborhoods!

As to your comments on the country, I agree, but it's never going to change. Either we, as foreigners learn to adapt to it and in a sense to accept it, or we're doomed to lives of perpetual frustration here. I know lots of guys who fall into the latter category and are forever angry at something. I try as hard as I can never to go there, though I'm not always successful. The whole place is sort of a soap opera written by an amateur.

GE

Dragon Slayer
08-31-07, 02:25
Tom 77,

Thanks for the Post. GoodEnough cannot be more correct. When the fucking peanut vendo rknows where you live, "get the fuck out of Dodge". I learned years ago that the old phrase "discretion is a part of valor" can be used in the Philippines to mean, "be discrete or yo won't eat (pussy)".

The fine, gated communities in Cebu, Makati and Davao cost more but have the advantage that the piece of shit "peanut vendor" or the fucking worthless "worm in the bar" cannot go running to your place to let loose your details. I had this unfortunate experience in Aug 2004, courtesy of the fucking demon witch Mila, whom GE had as his live in maid back then when I stayed with him. TO this day I still cannot believe the level she went to informing ALL of my ladies of my activities. Today, I stay in fine Hotels with security and give the specific instruction, "no woman and no person is to be told I am in this Hotel".

It is fucking impossible for the peasant class filipino (or filipina) to keep a secret. They have no fucking concept of discretion. In the Philippnes you must keep this in mind ALWAYS.

Dragon Slayer

GoodEnough
08-31-07, 10:45
It's been years since I frolicked on Burgos St. And I've never stayed in the area, so it's almost with a newbie's sense of wonder that I look on the scene as I walk out the door of the hotel at night. Same old bars and the same old guys wandering back and forth, but it's being inundated by every kind of hustler within thirty seconds of setting foot on the street that I didn't remember. Any time after sundown I am offered, within 5 minutes everything from cheap sunglasses and counterfeit name brand watches, to Cialis, Viagra, massage, straight sex, gay sex, flowers, peanuts, chewing gum, junk food, various articles of "name brand" clothing, and pretty much everything except home refinancing. Unbelievable. And it doesn't matter that the same hustlers may have seen me only an hour before; the entire drama in twenty-seven acts is played out every time. It's all done good naturedly and it's not overly aggressive so I don't really get pissed, but I do wonder if any of these folks (except the Viagra guys) ever make a sale. I had an adorable 35 kg. 19 or 20 year old offer me "full service" last night for Php500. I'm sure it's because of my dashing good looks and my devil may care grin.

Somehow, it's all sort of fun, though I would never pay the ridiculous bar fines here; not when I can be in EDSA in 15 minutes and in LA Cafe in 25. Still, it's a great street scene, though nowhere near as good as the never ending chaos of Patpong in Bangkok. Still, considering that two weeks from tomorrow I leave for Juba Sudan (aka the back of beyond) and will likely starve for a month, I'm trying to soak it all up now so I can replay it in moments of sheer, unadulterated boredom and sexual frustration.

What I don't understand is how and why the bars here simply ignore market forces. There are very few customers going into and out of those places and fewer still who pay the bar fines and take the girls. To a market-driven capitalist such as myself, this would suggest that I was pricing my product too high and should probably consider lowering prices. But not here. I do not understand how these places or these girls, survive. But this is just another great enigma of the Zen riddle that is the Philippines.

Enough ranting. Tonight I think I will return to the environs of LA Cafe; a place which seems well-attuned to the realities of the market.

GE

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Dragon Slayer
09-01-07, 00:09
Guys,

GoodEnough conntinues to make great Posts. I do enjoy the Burgos Street scene. I did, howeer, pass on the "Home Refinancing" guys (thought the rate on 15 year fixed was too high) but I DID buy some shades once from a tout but felt I could have done better than the P200 he wanted. I hope GE has sent over to my Hotel in Makati Cinema Square the envelope wiht me name on it (4 100mg Viagra fromPfizer inside).

I dropped by Burgos street during the afternoon last July with my Jen. Hit dimples for a few beers while she ran some errands and then she joined me there. I always have a good time. Last spring 2006 I piked up one of the girls from a Club on the Street when she was not working. Took her back for then night and fucked her for P1000. Had to send her home as another girl came over later (uninvited).

The Clubs on Brgos do get crowded late in the evening after 11:00PM and they are open until 04:00AM. Late at night in many Clubs you can get the girls to pull your dick out and give you a handjob or even a blowjob in one of the dark corners. Two years ago in one Club during the happy Hour I told one girl I would buy her a ladies drink if she took my dick in her mouth and sucked it. I unzipped trousersaurus rex and she bent over in the booth so no one could see her and took my dick in her mouth and sucked it for a few miinutes. Not like a full blowjob but I paid only P300, the cost of a ladies drink. I also had her pull up her top so I could suck her huge tits. That was a freebie.

I was with a British guy making his first visit to Burgos Street once and he pciked up two girls off the streets and took both of them back to his room. I had already met a lady walking around the area. I have also made arrangements for girls in the Clubs to come by my hotel when they were not working. This beats the high bar fines although they stayed only a few hours.

Dragon Slayer

GoodEnough
12-01-07, 01:45
i might as well post about my just-completed visit to cdo here, since we don't have an "other places" thread yet.

i returned yesterday from a three day odyssey to cagayan de oro. actually, i spent most of the days in either "the islamic city of marawi" and iligan, attending to various business functions and meetings, but used cdo as a base, since i prefer it to iligan, and since marawi is out of the question. the latter is safe enough, but has no alcohol, no amusements, no restaurants in which i would eat, and nothing in the way of any attractions or at least, any attractions that would attract me or the other members of this group.

the first night i made my rounds of the "big four" clubs, gion, bada bing, ontic and fantastic (formerly homecourt). herewith, my impressions:

bada bing was a shadow of its former self. it used to be packed with women, all of whom took off their clothes on stage, with those not dancing circulating around the room trying to get a horny male to sit with them and buy them drinks. alas, no longer. first, the mayor, in his wisdom, has decried that henceforth stripping is not allowed, and now the girls get down only to panties and bras. this would not be so bad if there was anyone you wanted to see in her panties and bra, but there wasn't. the overall quality of the women has been degraded and there was no on available whom i would have considered under blizzard conditions in the canadian far north woods. of course, there were only 6-7 women, with the others (as i was told by the gay floor manager) in the "dressing room" or any one of the down market vip rooms around the perimeter. no matter. i left after one drink and i doubt i'll be back.

ontic, directly across the street from bada bing, was much the same story: a handful of women, none of them worth getting excited about, and most of them sitting in a dark corner that made their features difficult to distinguish. in this case, there were no customers (bada bing was packed) and that made the place even more dreary. i'll give this place a miss in the future as well.

disappointed with the two former citadels of lovely and available women, i headed up to gion, which is about two blocks up and one block over. it did not disappoint. the place is furnished with overstuffed white couches, none of them bearing the traditional rips covered over with masking tape. there were probably 30 women, many of them fine looking, and a very friendly, if english deficient staff. i immediately pounced on a stunning 19 year-old who explained, to my dismay, that she was one of two or three girls who did not go out with customers. to be fair, she did not try to milk me for as many drinks as possible before announcing this lamentable state of affairs. however, by the time i got this information, all of the other girls in whom i might have been interested had been selected by other customers, so i decided to leave.

this is definitely the best bar in cdo. it's attractive. it's got lots of women and there's no pressure. if you do invite a lady to sit with you, you have to buy one ladies drink (php350 i think) every 30 minutes. the bar fine is php3,000 all inclusive, and i think that covers about 3 hours intensive short term experience. achilles, if you're reading this, and if you go out on the town, this is the place to start.

fantastic is just up the street about 20 meters from ontic and on the same side of the street. it's got small metal tables rep001tered around a room in front of the stage, and it too, is worth going to. the place had about 20 women and the deal is much the same as gion in that you have to buy a ladies drink every 30 minutes, but here the price is php250, however the bar fine is php3,500 all inclusive. however, if you've bought at least two ladies drinks the bar fine price falls to php3,200, again for about 3 hours. there were lots and lots of very good looking, very sexy women at the place, but not as many as at gion and the tables and chairs are not as comfortable as the couches at gion. however, the service is very friendly and there's no pressure at all to do anything but watch the girls descending from the metal spiral staircase. some of the women, in apparent defiance of the nudity ban, did whip off their bras for a few seconds. i imagine this ban, like so much else in this country, will be temporary, and was put in place to satisfy to moral outrage of some group or another that has nothing better to do with its time than to tell other people how to live their lives.

i did meet a stunning 21 year-old at fantastic whose face was more fantastic than her performance. but she was very sweet, accommodating, naive, cuddly and fun to be with. there's no point in describing this encounter in detail since sex acts, described narratively, tend to lose their sparkle and in any case, readers of this board are intimately familiar with what that's all about.

my second night there i became a lurker. i did go back to gion and it was every bit as good as the first night, but the women i might have considered were "entertaining customers" and i was tired and didn't want to wait for one of them to get free, so i left.

night three, having just returned from iligan, i was wiped out and decided that i could not cope with another late night, so i let my fingers do the walking. i know a guy (a gay pimp actually) who seems to have an endless string of young college girls (18-21) available, at php2,000, for 3 hour romps. these girls typically have to be home for mommy and daddy by 11 or midnight, so you need to meet them early. this guy never disappoints, and will show up with 2-3 women in a taxi. i wound up with a lovely 19 year old and a good time was had by all. if anyone if going there and wants this guy's contact info send me a pm and i'd be happy to send it along.

as usual, i stayed at the mallberry and as usual was not disappointed. the hotel has good service and a nice ambiance. it's the newest hotel in cdo and is typically fully booked or close to it, so for those thinking of going to the city, it's wise to book in advance. it's got wireless internet in all rooms at a cost of php100 for three hours.

ge

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Gangles
03-12-08, 03:08
This is a report from Thailand experience, but it warrants posting here in the Philippines

I have a regular gf in Bangkok, who was introduced by a mutual friend. Both are straight regular Thai women. My gf, Miss T, comes from a middle class family, and does not need money from me. However, I have funded her for some English classes. She has a regular job that enables her to pay her bills. I have visited her family, and they are pretty well off, nice house, good business, couple of trucks, couple of cars etc. Miss T shares a house with her friend, Miss U. Miss T also has two other friends, Miss V and Miss W.

I had met Miss U and Miss V last time I was in Thailand, and I thought that they were pretty well off, both had falang bf, and were independent. Well, that is what I thought, but I know a bit more now.

Miss U had an American bf. She became pregnant some time ago, in March 2007, and the baby was born in December. She says, and I assumed that he was the father, but I can not be sure now. He found her in a karaoke bar, barfined her, and eventually pulled her out of the bar and set her up with a regular allowance. He is about to cut the allowance next month. I tell her that she can follow through with this through the American Embassy, register the baby as an American citizen, but she will not, which makes me think that maybe the kid is not his, and maybe she was having it off with at least one other falang at the time.

I also believe that she was having other customers while her US bf was not there, and while she was pregnant, possibly right up to September.

When the allowance stops, Miss U plans to go to work in a bar, as a regular bargirl, like before. Meanwhile, she spends all night trawling the net for foreigners, but doesnít seem to follow through to form any sort of meaningful base for communication, and in the end, they stop. I shot some very complimentary photos, which have increased the number of hits she gets substantially, but nothing seems to have come of it.

Miss V is tall, slim, intelligent, articulate and glamorous. She is studying IT. She has a well respected falang bf, with whom she has lived for quite some years in a very respectable address. Her bf funds her and completely supports her. I thought that this is the ideal story of falang and Thai relationship.

However, now I know that he pulled her from a bar, where she worked as a bargirl. He set her up, took her into his house, turned her into the glamorous woman she now is. But she has two other regular bf. She has taken an apartment nearby so that she can spend periods of time with him, telling the regular bf that she has gone home to visit her mother. Meanwhile, the third bf visits her regularly. Both second and third bfís pay handsomely. We were supposed to meet up with Miss V one evening, but she texted to say that she has hooked up with another falang customer for the evening and cannot come. The first bf knows nothing of this, and to me he must be blind, or stupid, or both.

Muss W is short, well proportioned and full of bubbling fun. She has a regular falang bf who regularly sends money from abroad. She has another falang bf who is closer to home, who she meets when he calls, and is paid for her services. Anytime that money gets a bit short, she heads to Soi 4, Nana, to hawk the fork as a fl. Sometimes she gets calls throughout the day from previous customers, so she flies off to another assignation.

This has had an interesting effect on me. I have no argument with prostitutes, and prostitution. And on this trip, I have used 4 prostitutes out of the 13 women that I have slept with. But when the woman is a friend, like Miss W, I feel protective toward her, and I donít want her to go out. At least she is honest about her business, and is not being deceptive, towards me and her friends. I have no respect for Miss V, who was given a dream life by her bf, but who is deceiving him, not respecting him for what he has done, and behaving as any ordinary prostitute. I am ambivalent about Miss U, on the one hand sort of supportive, yet I suspect that most of her story is lies, and so I have little respect.

So, there you have it.

Gangles

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GoodEnough
04-06-08, 10:32
I've been following a discussion on one of the other Philippines boards here, on the topic of the attraction of Filipinas to Western men. Some guys apparently do not see the relationship between perceived wealth and sexual attraction or perhaps I should say sexual success. Some guys even brag about never spending any money on the women and still getting laid. Other guys contend that all that Filipinas want is a green card (or its European/Canadian equivalent) and a middle class life in the west, while still others think that Filipinas have no idea of how wealthy (or not) most Western guys are.

There's a lot of delusion at the center of these discussions. I contend that those who do not have, or at least do not spend any money on the girls with whom they want to establish relationships attract, for the most part, very poor city girls or naive provincial girls, for whom even staying in some shitty pension house is an upward move. Such guys are not however, typically going to attract decently-educated, reasonably intelligent and presentable "normal" women. There are, to be sure exceptions, but for the most part, this is true.

My second contention is that most Filipinas are neither as stupid nor as uninformed as a lot of these guys seem to believe. Where you stay, how you dress, where you take them to dine, the types of gifts you give, are all indications of relative wealth, and these girls can and do pick up on those trappings very quickly. Again, why would a middle class, educated Filipina want to spend time with the Western equivalent of a poor Pinoy? The answer is that she would not. For these girls, screwing a poor white guy is not a mark of distinction.

Third is the notion that all Filipinas want is a life of luxury in the West. While this may be true in a general sense, I contend that most informed Filipinas understand that being with a poor guy in the West isn't terribly different than being with the equivalent here, and that a Western passport alone is simply not sufficient to attract women from the middle and upper classes.

The bottom line? Money (at least a reasonable amount), and style do matter. You will find here (at least in Davao) that the guys with dirty shorts, no socks, filthy sneakers and no recent exposure to barbers tend to pick up the girls with no education, no curiosity and no style. The basic principle of like attracting like does still work here.

GE

Nvslim
04-06-08, 13:09
I've been following a discussion on one of the other Philippines boards here, on the topic of the attraction of Filipinas to Western men. Some guys apparently do not see the relationship between perceived wealth and sexual attraction or perhaps I should say sexual success. Some guys even brag about never spending any money on the women and still getting laid. Other guys contend that all that Filipinas want is a green card (or its European/Canadian equivalent) and a middle class life in the west, while still others think that Filipinas have no idea of how wealthy (or not) most Western guys are.GEThanks GE for the insight. Based on being married to a Pinay for 20+ years, you are right on the money. We both work, made a pretty good life for ourselves. House and both cars are paid for and we have a few bucks in the bank.

Thanks for your continued posts and insights.

Slim

Gangles
04-06-08, 13:11
I must say that I agree in part with comments made by GE. But there are other perspectives as well.

We have had many illegal entrants into Australia over the years. They are very aware of our welfare system, and they know that if they can get into the country and get permanent resident status, they are guaranteed a welfare income stream that ensures that they can live to a standard that they cannot live in their own country. And they are protected, far more so than in their own country - the legal system works, police are not corrupt, infrastructure works, there is consumer protection and all of the other regulatory environment which I find opressive, but which they embrace like a comfort blanket.

I know quite a lot of filipinas in my town, some married to men who are well off, most married to basic guys, farmers, drivers, ordinary, lower middle class to low class men. But whoever they live with, their life is generally far better than they could ever enjoy in the Philippines. They drive cars, they had a modicum of financial independence.

Most of these guys saved some money and went to the Philippines for whatever reason. But they brought back wives. One guy that I know spent 4 years fighting with immigration to get his wife into Australia. They now have 3 kids, and both love it. These guys are not well off by our standards, but have enough to convey the impression that they are financially stable.

My experience in my last trip is also a bit of an example.

Miss A in Davao, employed, able to take care of her needs. I did not give her any money, nor spend any money on her other than a meal in the hotel restaurant. But I looked after her, gave her as much sexual satisfaction as she could handle, showed some considration. Far more than her pinoy boyfriends.

Miss C in Davao - not a bar girl, just an ordinary relatively poor country girl. The only money I spent on her was a pizza, and reimburse her bus fare. We were in a hotel which was almost certainly more luxurious than she had experienced before, but I think that the compelling reason for her ongoing interest was that I treated her as if she was an equal. I looked after her needs before mine, she had her first orgasm. I masssaged her, and made her feel good.

Miss E in Butuan, we did not even meet in my hotel, but a cheap place that was pretty bare bones. But I showed her affection, looked aftr her sexual needs before mine, she has said since that she had never had an orgasm before. This was her first. I was the only man to give her a good tongue lashing.

Same with Miss K in Manila and Tagaytay. She is indeependent, good income, had to take unpaid leave to spend a few days with me, and paid all of her expenses. I think the only thing I paid for was a few meals and a few drinks.

I think that we forget that western men treat their women much differently than pinoys treat pinays.

I agree that falangs who dress like pigs end up with the lowest of the low pinays, but most guys that I have bumped in to are prettty basic, but dress respectively, and are generally pretty acceptable to the local filipinas.

East meets west, and vice versa.

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GoodEnough
04-07-08, 03:16
Thanks Gangles. I had forgotten to point out that (my opinion only) Western men generally seem to treat women here more kindly than do Pinoys. The Westerners tend to be kinder, and at least to respect the women as people rather than as walking semen depositories. This is an important aspect of the "East meets West" relationship. However, I'm not sure, if this were the only difference, that it would be enough to explain the success rate of Western males with local women.

GE

Fifty Fifty
04-07-08, 07:27
I think that we forget that western men treat their women much differently than pinoys treat pinays.I have to agree with everything you say and your experiences certainly mirror mine and those of several other Mongering Good Guys I know.

This has recently been the case in Dubai, Kazakhstan and the Phils, plus almost all other places I have mongered.

I am open minded and treat the girls with respect, despite paying to shag quite a few of them. I found that once the Ūce' has been broken and they realise that I just might be a genuinely good guy they want to stay with me for longer. (Days, Weeks and sometimes Months too)

For a (sometime poor) WG to be taken to good hotels, treated well and even given the odd shopping trip, it is an insight to life they may otherwise never know and they all seem to relish it.

Ok we may have more 'cash to splash' but it doesnt end there. I know some very rich guys who monger, pay big money and treat girls like sh*t , then just get on with it. However they either dont seem to get or dont want the GFE that some of us prefer.

Pinoys in general may be used to treating their women poorly, then along come the Western Guys, who in generall are seen as richer and more respectful.

Its horses for courses or YMMV as they all say.

Cheers, F/Fifty

Wicked Roger
04-09-08, 16:35
I think that we forget that western men treat their women much differently than pinoys treat pinays.


EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Just to reiterate GE and FF. I agree also.

I find that when I chat with the girls (18-22 is the main age range for me) all have a perception that westerners will be more respectful, truthful and kinder. We may also be horny old dogs and kinky to boot (well in my case) but that they accept as they get respect.

FF knows that in the UAE the Filipinas I see are all well looked after and I know he does same (did same) when he was here. A little cash does go a long way as long as you treat them well. Some I find jobs for real office jobs and I get loads of freebies as a result

Of course there are some westerners who are crazy and don't treat them well but I always think you may meet someone at least twice in your life so be nice to them first time.

When I was in Cebu had great fun, none were WGs, hotel was nice, good food, shopping and just walking around and being accepted was all that was need for me to have my wicked way. And they came back for more (not cash! , me: D)

Maybe it is because we are older (not wiser, well not in my case) that we are more attuned to what they want and that way they get attuned to what we want. : D

Bilbo Baggins
04-10-08, 03:04
Some guys apparently do not see the relationship between perceived wealth and sexual attraction or perhaps I should say sexual success.

The bottom line? Money (at least a reasonable amount), and style do matter.

GEWell GE is a smart man so its easy to agree with him. From my own experience, filipinas have a strong sense of smell and spend so much time making themselves smell nice they are very aware of you and your body odours. I would often get comments on how nice I smelled and the other thing I did was to have manicures and I was surprised at how many girls noticed. They are sizing you up all the time I often get the comment "you are handsome man" I don't have film star looks at first I thought it was bribing flattery but now I realise its code for "I find you acceptable" It has nothing to do with pretty boy looks as I wrongly thought.

Money and style and I think style is more important because it gives the impression of money. I agree with GE if you want a certain type of woman you have to fit their profile. To the filipina appearances are very important if not everything. Now I am asking myself what kind of woman do I want and what is my style?

Dragon Slayer
06-15-08, 00:09
Guys,

Living part of the year in the Philippines has been a long term goal of mine. I decided on Davao City due to the many friends I have here, foremost GoodEnough. The casual lifestyle and the fact that it has some of the advantages of large cities (restaurants, nightlife, beaches and shopping) without some of the disadvantages (heavy traffic, pollution, crime and dense population). Davao also has many Bars, Clubs and karaoke places frequented by, or employing Pro Girls. It also has many Colleges and Hospitals and, now a giant Call Center, with thousands or young, beautiful, regular women aged 18-29. Quite a few lovely ladies in the 30-45 year range to be found also (don't knock it;two very "hot"ladies I had here were 36 & 42)

My second and third choices would be Dumaguete City and Ormoc City. Both are college towns with many lovely coeds. Dumaguete has a sizable ex-pat population while Ormoc does not. Most of the ex-pats I found in Dumaguete were of the unemployed variety which I have little in common with now (or ever).

I could never live in the area where my Home is located in Leyte. I tried staying there as long as a week. Recently I did not get beyond three days. Unless you like fishing and hanging around working class filipinos who speak little or no english, you are lost. There are plenty of lovely, single women age 18-23 but I could never touch any of them. I could get an a/c unit for the house and a large satellite dish to capture international tv channels. But how much fucking tv can you watch? Just my daughter's mother to be with and she spends most of the day looking after our home and the two next to it and across the street that are Family Owned and vacant.

More on this topic next Post.

Dragon Slayer

GoodEnough
09-27-08, 14:42
This is my last night in Phnom Penh, the lovely city on the banks of the Mekong. Though I came here with the intent of screwing my brains outóand did in fact accomplish this objectiveóI found that I liked the city much more for its style and ambience than for its sexual opportunities. Itís still very much a French colonial city, more reminiscent of Hanoi than anyplace in the Philippines, with assorted sidewalk cafťs, great French, Thai, Khmer and Vietnamese food, terrific French wine, and all the other accoutrements that go with French civilization.

Itís also, of course Buddhist, which means thereís a certain gentility one simply doesnít find in the mayhem that is the Philippines. Itís an altogether calmer and quieter place, which is exactly what I was looking for after 5 non-stop years or so coping with the Philippines. For me, from the standpoint of culture, and "quality of life, " this place beats the Philippines by a long way.

From the perspective of our mutual hobby however, the story is exactly the converse. Yes, there are endless opportunities here, for P4P and, I think, with non-pro women, though I didnít try for the latter. However, thereís a much great commercial orientation to the entire transaction than in the Philippines. In the latter, even if youíre paying, in fact even if you have paid up-front, the whole experience is usually pretty GFE. In my brief experience here, this is not typically the case. Itís more overtly commercial and, though the ladies can be charming, and are certainly good looking enoughóbe they Khmer or Vietnameseóthey leave you with no doubt about what theyíre after, and leave you no doubt as well that the next night they will be looking for another meal ticket.

I know, from having read extensively in the Cambodia/Phnom Penh section of this forum that it would have been possible to access the bottom rung of the ladder and to snare girls for $10 off the streets or from some of the less expensive bars. Thereís nothing wrong with that, but it was not an option I chose. Staying with the middle and upper rung establishments, the prices are not much different from the Philippines, though thereís lots of up front negotiation which Iíve not found to be the case in the Philippines. The average cost of an overnight stay is about $30-$35 and regardless of what others may contend, my discussions with other expats here, plus of course my own experience, confirms this.

Thereís a marked difference in service as well I think, highly in favor of the Philippines, where itís all somehow less mechanical (or better faked), and oral sex is the norm, and not something that has to be negotiated before the fact. Oral sex, for those who are interested, is referred to here as "yum-yum, " and itís not unusual for a girl to say something like: "I like you yum-yum me but I no like yum-yum you. " You may have to go through this conversation three or four times before you get the results for which youíre searching. Even if you do though, the skills of the average Filipina in this department areóagain in my opinion onlyóhighly superior to that of most of the ladies here. Filipinas (appear to) get into it. For these ladies, itís part of their job and they do itóthose that do do itóbecause they have to. The bottom line? For cultural engagement, food, wine and just kicking back, this place is far preferable to the Philippines. Even the tuk-tuk drivers are pleasant and informative. For raw sex however, itís not even close.

Dragon Slayer
11-11-08, 22:07
Guys,

These are the four places I know the most about here. My home in Leyte in on the ocean in a Village where my one daughter's uncle is Police Chief, another Barangay Captain ( I was a major contributor to his campaign) and one more is a Police Sargeant in a major City in Leyte but lives two doors down from my home. It is safe there and this is the kind of environment you should consider if you plan to buy a home or rent one long term. Avoid squatter areas, pension houses or dumpy hotels. Yes, I know they are cheap. They also lack any security and are in areas full of poor, impoverished filipinos.

Please note that you are NOT a filipino but a foreigner. You DO NOT belong living amongst them. END OF STORY. Before when I frequented ex-pat bars I ran into many foreigners here. Most of them lived in pathetic conditions in areas where poor filipinos lived. None of them had a clue about safety and security and spent much of their days getting drunk.

Fourteen years ago I spent a week living at Kukuck's Nest in Cebu City. Back then I stayed in the only air conditioned room which also had a private bathroom. The other rooms shared a common bathroom and had only a fan and table lamp inside them. You can imagine the kind of weirdos and losers who occupied the other rooms. One of the cute girls working there age 21 was married. Her young, punk filipino husband was in jail awaiting charges for murder. He stabbed to death a tricycle driver for his money, P50.

Without permission or notifying the owner she left Friday afternoon to stay in the jail over the weekend fucking her worthless husband, a murderer. I was up drinking coffee at 07:30AM on Monday morning when she walked back to Kukuck's Nest, her clothes in a sack over her back. She was hot looking with a nice body. She asked me to get her a foreign boyfriend. No telling what diseases her had from the murderer or from sleeping in the putrid jail.

The Philippines is NOT your home. You have to exercise extreme caution here. After 20 years travelling here and at 6'4",240 lbs and countless years in the martial arts I still keep my guard up everywhere. The fine hotels are expensive but they offer security guards, safes, in room safes and vehicles for travel. No worry about waking up to find some filipino stranger in your room ever as one guy visiting Davao reported last year.

Dragon Slayer

Wrong Info
02-12-09, 21:30
I do aplaude the reports here.and for once I am glad to see someone give an honest report about safety etc. That isn't being atacked and discredited by a poster, that is either a liberal-doer that does not know his arse realy, or a propoganda poster trying to say you are crazy to say foriegners are often a target for scams and violence and you should go his bar all while under the disguise of a poster.

It is a true and accurate report and the others with info about Cambodia etc, very accurate as well.

I also will say as well as for Dragon Slayers comments about the older woman 35-45.--- I do enjoy the olders one as well.

I find that they are much more easily dealt with, and they generaly do not expect any special treatment as the younger ones with the boyfreind that thinks its cool his girl is being pimped out and when not working can buy beer for he and his buddy's as they try and create a plann to rob our foolish old asses.- OR WORSE

All said I do like the Philippines. What guy wouldn't. But do find it neccesary to

A: not give your personal info to anyone. Not a bar owner. ANYONE!

B: love them and leave them. Not get attached to a Bar Girl EVER- IMHO

C. Always be safe. Never brag houw much money you have and want some Bar Tramp to set you up for.

D: If you want to love a girl and have kids. Keep it seperate from your bar activity, and if she is a bar tramp. Even for a day. She may stay with you for life, but she will always be scamming you in her mind. NOT LOVE.

E: In th Philippines you do not get better service if you pay more or a better quality of girl, just like any Bar anywhere in the world, if you are willing to pay more for someting easily had.for less duhhh--- you have a big I'm A SUCKER tattoed to your forehead.

F to Z more of the above with details you can imagine

Great forum

Dragon Slayer
06-05-09, 00:07
I wanted to get in a post on having a home here from the esthetic and economic view points. I have a home on the beach in Leyte. I had it built six years ago but was not at all involved in construction design or anything. I just did it to satisfy my daughter's mother. The result was pretty inadequate.

One and one half years ago I got with my daughter's grandfather and had major renovations done. Two walls were removed that did nothing but waste space. An unused bedroom was removed and an addition to the house was added. The result was a nice, large livingroom, a formal dining room area and a nice kitchen. Good quality livingroom furniture was purchased last November.

This Trip I had two relatives re-paint the livingroom and diningrooms from a "swamp green" color to a nice off white. The fluorescent lighting fixtures which hung from the ceiling by their cords were replaced with circular wall lamps. The cheap, green curtains were replace with white, linen curtains with pink roses which matched the maroon red livingroom furniture. Two plastic coverings on the plastic tables/chairs were discarded and a solid wood, formal dining room set was added with pale rose fabric cushions to match the curtains and livingroom set.

The transformation was fabulous. My daughters entire Family was impressed and several male Family members spoke to me for the first time ever. I told my daughter's mother that I wanted her house to be something she can be proud of now. She replied, "it is your house, we just live here". Whatever. The important thing is that the house is comfortable and quite attractive. Two of her brothers got excited and undertook to paint the exterior of the house when I bought the paint and began to inquire for a painter. Their requested fee was a bottle of red wine.

The floor still needs to be tiled and the kitchen cabinets need to be replaced with something attractive and of good quality. Labor was rediculously cheap and all work completed within the agree upon time frame. The electrician charged P500 ($ 10.65) to install all three ceiling lamps and the wall switches for each lamp. The two painters for the interior walls got P360 each,including a P90 bonus each. The most expensive item was the solid wood diningroom table and six chairs which was less than half what I would have paid here in my City.

If you intend to build or re-model a home here you need to be involved in the design, interior decorating and the supervision of labor. I have had my entire house remodeled here in the US. Getting work done in Leyte was very easy. I went along to purchase all the various items and was on hand to supervise the work. People need work and this was the easiest part. But it was important that I was actively involved in the design and purchase elements.

The mistake I made before was to have no interest in what was being done. I just wired her money when she requested. She merely had a very simple house built and even simpler furnishings. Much of this had to redone (knocking out walls, interior painting, curtains, furniture) as a result of my initial indifference. But now the place looks nice and is comfortable. Having added a/c units in the master bedroom and livingroom / diningrooms enhanced this.

I just recommend that any man having a home built or re-modeled here be onhand to oversee the costs and installation. This is especially true if you intend to spend any amount of time living in the house. Air conditioning is a must if you will be here for any period of time, even a week. The units cost me P8500 ($ 180) each and "in wall" professional installation was P1200 ($25.50) each.

Dragon Slayer

Laylow3
06-08-09, 04:29
I have an extra about $1000 this month and I plan on using it in Davao. Like I mention in another report I have been going through DragonSlayerís forum. There was a report I saw that DS put out back in 2007 I believe that mentioned Davao being a very cheap place to live. Something like you could survive there on about $30 dollars a day and since everyone praises Davao about it having the best non-pro scene of any city in the world I assume that all the pussy Iíll get there should be "free", right?

So, my plan is to spend one month in Davao as cheap as possible. Actually I have $1300 but I donít want to spend it all if I donít have to. This isnít my first time to the PI, I was there 6 months ago in Dec. I have already written detailed reports about them in other threads if youíre interested. I went to Cebu, Manila, and Ilocos Norte. Umm, so Iím in decent shape and I donít smoke or drink alcohol. I shouldnít have a problem picking up "regular" ladies in Davao I hope. I was following the discussion where you were talking about dressing in Davao. You mentioned "black shoes, a pair of jeans or slacks, and a 100% cotton long sleeved shirt, and to smell good". Good advice, my thoughts on this is that it depends on the kind of girl you want to attract. Being as cheap as I am, Iím not sure if going that route would be the best bet. I would think that the girl would want me to spend more money on her when I dress that way. Please correct me if Iím wrong. I have never been to Davao and I base this off of my experience with girls here at home. You see, what I like to do is get the girl, maybe eat, and then go back and fuck. Pretty simple. Nevertheless I plan on trying out what you said anyway. I am a very light traveler so Iím going to bring just one outfit like you described. If it works like a charm and Iím banging 10s then I guess Iíll be wearing that one outfit everyday. Otherwise, Iíll just be casual as always. Also with it being so hot in PI, donít you sweat alot when you go out with long-sleeved shirts on?

Also, I have been looking into volunteer programs that are available in Davao. You see, when I went to the PI last Dec., I got so bored during the day. I am a busy body, I have to have something to do. I donít mind going on a vacation to do nothing but fuck but that canít be the only thing I do. So, I plan on volunteering somewhere for at least a couple of hours everyday. Can you advise me a bit on this or list some options. So far Iím thinking about the Red cross chapter there. I was a BLS instructor for two years but my creds are expired already. I havenít forgotten it all though. Also, Iím hoping there are some actual nightclubs there so I can dance. I love dancing, I breakdance here in Hawaiíi. I tried to find a nightclub like this when I was in Angeles and Cebu but I didnít see any. I heard there was a place called "Skytracks" in Angeles but I never made it there.

Everyone has said that Davao is very safe so Iím thinking about actually bringing my smaller Canon digital cam to take some nice pics. Iím hoping that it is as easy as talking to the girls for a little bit and then going back to fuck. I tried picking up regular girls in Angeles at the mall there but had no luck. They all wanted to go to a restaurant and get me to fed them. Now, I could have been wrong but I was thinking no we fuck first and then Iíll feed you or we can out but sex is first and foremost. I hope I am correct in strategy here. Oh yeah, also Iím military so Iíll be taking the Japan-Singapore-Davo route to get to PI. Iíll have to buy a ticket from Singapore to Davao ($120) but other than the flights will be free. I plan on working out also while Iím there. I guess I should also mention that I speak Tagalog. (my wife is a filipina) Ok, so what do you think?

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GoodEnough
06-08-09, 11:39
I think you may need to tweak your plan a bit. First of all, regardless of what you may have read a couple of years ago, you are not going to get by here on $30 a day; at least not if you want to live like a human being. You could stay at a place like the Sampagita Inn for maybe Php500 ($11) and you get eat the local crap for a few dollars a day if you're not too picky about taste or what goes into your stomach. That might leave you about $10 a day on which to "party."

DS, Barba, and others, including myself, have often spoken of Davao as an easy place to meet "normal" women. You seem to have inferred from these comments that it's a simple as approaching some lady on the street, introducing yourself, and then going somewhere to have sex. Lots of luck with that approach. I've been with DS and Barba often enough to know that what they meant was something a little different.

The most tried and true approach is the one that you apparently want to avoid: strike up a conversation, get a cell phone number, wine her, dine her, and then perhaps go have sex. Most of the women however that you will meet this way are not really interested in going to some cheap dump to get their rocks off. DS stays at the Marco Polo; a true five star hotel and it's a treat for the girls to go there. Barba has stayed there and in other nice establishments here.

I'm not saying that your entire approach is doomed to failure. Doubtless there will be girls from some level of society here who won't mind being treated to an inexpensive meal and then going back to an inexpensive hotel, but these are not the ladies to whom DS and Barba were referring--I can state this categorically since I've met many of the ladies whom they have met here.

I'm really not trying to be discouraging here, but I am trying to point out the reality of Davao. Barba, being far more adventurous than I, and having explored more of the darker corners of the city, may have other advice. But I've met Barba, and I know that he dresses well, treats the women very well, and "courts" them before he tries to bed them.

Finally, going to the better pick-up spots for normal women--Bar 183, Some Place Else, the Auto Shop, the bars on Torres St.--is not cheap, especially if you wind up picking up drinks for some of the women. Likewise, the cost of buying small, even inexpensive gifts can add up quickly.

So the bottom line is that for maybe $25 a day you can survive here in cheap accommodations and eating local food and limiting your intake of beer, but it leaves you almost no margin for chasing women. Barba did write a recent post about the cost of picking up SWs (something I've never tried) and as I recall, the price was Php500 - 1,000, which would push you over the $30 ceiling.

Please do post about your experiences here. You may discover survival modes about which I know nothing and I'm sure you will find a ready audience anxious to hear of your experiences.

GE

Member #4491
06-08-09, 18:57
Laylow3,

First of all congrats to your savings and upcoming vacation. This will for sure be uplifting both for you and Davaos economy. Davao has increased in costs as well, just like the rest of the world. I think a kilo of rice jumped up at least 15-20 peso just during 2008.

The non pro scene in Davao is great, especially since you obviously take good care of your body. Down in Davao you pretty much get the feeling they are all lining up for white guys. It is still a novelty and many girls will dream of coming with you back to your home/army base. Just try not to fool them to much and end up with a shotgun in your mouth. You might even get away with not feeding them at all. I heard of one guy who just had to buy a mango juice. And another gentleman who bought the girl a coffee.

So to conclude, I am pretty sure you do not have to waste the extra 300 USD, but can save those for harsher times. There are many restaurants that serve "unlimited rice" offers. If you buy a small chicken leg, you can fill up with rice so it lasts all night.

Yes, thats true. Fancier clothes means higher expectations. Keep it simple and just bring out the party outfit on week ends and for special "assignments", I. E. Girls that are hard to crack open. Sounds a bit like Clark Kent with his superman costume in SEA, doesn't it?

With regards to doing a little bit of break dance, I am pretty sure I did see some crazy "uprocks", "coin drops" and "shuffles" out at Bungoian beach back in 2007. This attracted a big crowd of clapping youngsters that clearly where impressed by the moves. Should be a sure way of scoring big time for free if you put a little effort and persistence to it. Do not give up, sometimes the crowds can be slow starters since they are very self conscious in Davao. Go crazy, B-boy and you will eventually stir up some party vibes!

Your Canon digital camera will be as safe as back in the states. I even doubt people would know what it is in some places. Those Mindanao-Philippinos are sometimes hopelessly behind, but will be curious as to what little black box your are pointing at them.

There are many people in need, just waiting to learn basic life support. Maybe you can contact a church. They normally portray themself as doing a lot to help the poor and needing families with 10-15 children to feed and clothe. Could it be an idea that you have BLS instructions on in the provinces in the daytime, before you go back to Davao in the evening to rumble, break and fuck the teenage girls that ventured into the city for opportunities?

Do not forget to report back.

Cheers from Barba, wondering who the hell hacked the ROD software?

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Laylow3
06-09-09, 04:31
I think you may need to tweak your plan a bit. First of all, regardless of what you may have read a couple of years ago, you are not going to get by here on $30 a day; at least not if you want to live like a human being. You could stay at a place like the Sampagita Inn for maybe Php500 ($11) and you get eat the local crap for a few dollars a day if you're not too picky about taste or what goes into your stomach. That might leave you about $10 a day on which to "party."I looked into the Sapagita Inn and it looks ok from the pics I saw. Umm, I really like filipino food. I eat it almost everyday being that my wife is pilipino so I hope I should ok there. But I do have a big appetite (i love all meat!) and I really don't like eating white rice much but I'm military and not that picky at all.


So the bottom line is that for maybe $25 a day you can survive here in cheap accommodations and eating local food and limiting your intake of beer, but it leaves you almost no margin for chasing women.
I'm curious, what daily amount would you recommend me to bring that would be sufficient but most definitely not lavish? Like just enough that you personally feel is ok.


Down in Davao you pretty much get the feeling they are all lining up for white guys.Oh, well I hope it isn't a bad thing that I'm not white.


You might even get away with not feeding them at all. I heard of one guy who just had to buy a mango juice. And another gentleman who bought the girl a coffee.Yeah, I'm hoping that it's like it is here at home. You have some guys who dress up and pull fine women and also you have guys that just wing it and also pull stunners. I'm hoping I fall into the later category! :)


Could it be an idea that you have BLS instructions on in the provinces in the daytime, before you go back to Davao in the evening to rumble, break and fuck the teenage girls that ventured into the city for opportunities?Sounds like a plan to me!


So to conclude, I am pretty sure you do not have to waste the extra 300 USD, but can save those for harsher times. There are many restaurants that serve "unlimited rice" offers. If you buy a small chicken leg, you can fill up with rice so it lasts all night.Ok, so I think I have your approval that $1000 is enough for everything for one month including fucking non-stop, correct?? I'll get more particulars from you guys here once I'm getting ready to depart on my way there.

Laylow3
06-10-09, 03:27
Or I wonder. You all seem to know a lot about the Philippines so. Is there a specific place/town/city in the Philippines that you would recommend me to go to instead of Davao that would be perfect for what Iím looking for? Somewhere thatís cheap as hell and at the same time I can bang fine vagina non-stop. (or is Davao the best place for me)

NOTE: I'm slightly considering Thailand since I can get to Thailand from Singapore just as easy as I can get to the PI. Also, I have never been to Thailand and I only speak Thai a little bit.

GoodEnough
06-10-09, 12:46
Or I wonder. You all seem to know a lot about the Philippines so. Is there a specific place/town/city in the Philippines that you would recommend me to go to instead of Davao that would be perfect for what Iím looking for? Somewhere thatís cheap as hell and at the same time I can bang fine vagina non-stop. (or is Davao the best place for me)

NOTE: I'm slightly considering Thailand since I can get to Thailand from Singapore just as easy as I can get to the PI. Also, I have never been to Thailand and I only speak Thai a little bit.I am probably not the one to ask. There are others here who know more than I about other islands in the country. Certainly there are some places less expensive than Davao. Whether they're as good for meeting women, I don't know.

As to Thailand, I just got back and I've been dozens of times. I love the place but Bangkok is significantly more expensive than Davao and your chances of meeting and bedding a non-pro Thai girl are zero.

GE

Member #4491
06-11-09, 00:13
If you did not see the irony in my last post I must spell it out for you. STOP FOOLING YOURSELF! Girls cost, one way or another. Save your money and jerk off is my best advice if your that cheap.

I must also add this; we are talking about humans and your cheap attitude annoys me. Not the fact that you might fuck a couple for free, but all the lies you will tell those girls to get in to their panties, because without lies you will not be e very successful. Lies about a future with a visa to the US. No wonder many perople in the Philippines nurse a profound hate for westerners, Indian, Pakis, Arabs, etc. Many of "us" are lying bastards that would say anything to stretch a dollar an extra day or two, with no regards of the implications to the girl that will be left with crushed dreams. Maybe sounds corny, but it annoys me when these girls are referred to as human cattle.

Maybe you should check out the Sulu Archipelago? Great bargains on hotels I have heard.

Do your homework, and do not trust that you can replicate what others do.

Over and out on this topic from Barba.

Nvslim
06-11-09, 09:58
Girls cost, one way or another. Save your money and jerk off is my best advice if your that cheap.

I must also add this; we are talking about humans and your cheap attitude annoys me.Thanks for saying this for the group at large. Most of what I read here is respectful of the pinoys and pinays but the few who just see women as a piece of meat meant for pleasure are tiring and disgusting.

Its the old fly and honey. Be respectful to get respect.

Rant mode off.

Slim

Dragon Slayer
06-13-09, 23:30
Nvslim & Barba,

You guys have done an excellent job on this Forum without me reading posting. Thankyou. I was thinking of just shutting down the Forum but perhaps it will be of use to you adventurous men.

Nvslim,

I do not know what race you are but I do not think it matters. Back in 1993 I twice took along a black friend, former college basketball player. The women loved him. He began going to Thailand on his own and got "used, abused and musused" by a Thai prostitute in Pattaya. Like with my nephew, the Kid, I tried to advise him on this but, like the Kid, he ignored my advice, in spite of my numerous years traveling there, being able to speak Thai fluently and having had a horrible, brief (mercifully), expensive (absolutely) marriage to a Thai woman. He later began travelling solely to the Philippines, met and married a filipina.

As to places to stay cheap but nice in Davao City, consider the efficiency rooms at Red Knights Garden. Rose and I spent a night in one of these to check it out. It was not bad and Rose loved simply putting on a bikini swimsuit, walking 50 meters and jumping into the clean, beautiful swimming pool. This is opposed to riding an elevator from the top floor to 4th floor of Marco Polo, waling a couple hundred meters to the pool and having every man, single, divorced, fooling around or otherwise glaring at her (body easily a 9.5 on 1:10).

At RKG I paid $ 23.50/nt for only one night and the place was fully booked then. Stay a couple weeks and I bet you can get it for half that price. Also Guys liked the place off Illustre Street behind Gaisano Mall (forget the name). I know X Man stayed here and it was around P800/nt ($ 17). Has a swimming pool. Also try rooms at Casa Leticia on J Camus St. Standard room were about P1,000/nt before. Should be reasonable now with recession.

As to wining and dining filipinas to get laid, this is TOTALLY, COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY. I do this ONLY because I enjoy going to nice restaurants and having a good bottle of red. It does NOT assure me I will fuck the Lady. It only guarantees that I will spend a little money (so what?). Spend time talking with the lady and drinking a nice bottle of wine in your hotel room or the poolside restaurant (any halfway decent place will work). Be polite but gradually get very friendly (kissing her neck, cheeks, etc; rubbing her shoulder) and guage her response. She is NOT going to move on you.

As to dress: bring only 100% cotton clothing. Not only will you look great in a 100% Oxford swiss or egyptian cotton shirt, but you will fell comfortable. Wear whatever you like and that MAKES YOU LOOK GOOD. Ask women (especially hot looking ladies) their opinoins. I know that I look real good in long sleeve, tailored, oxford 100% swiss / egyptian cotton shirts because of the compliments I receive from women. Otherwise I would wear something else. Bring 2 or 3 nice shirts so you can switch in the evening, making you feel better (don't knock it, Frank Sinatra did a complete clothes change four times daily).

If you stay at the Marco Polo the women will believe you "have money to burn". I stay only because I like the Hotel. I am considering other places next Trip as I want to have privacy. Everyone knows to look for me at MP so I cannot remain "under the radar" there.

I almost neglected nice but inexpensive places to dine out. Try the dozen or so Filipino Barbecue Restaurants around Ground Zero (corner of J Camus/Illustre Sts.). These open at 5:00PM and close from 11:00PM to 04:00AM nightly, depending on which restaurant. When May Gomez arrived at the MP one Sunday evening with four (YES, 4!) of her "roommates" at Ateneo University, I first treated them to snacks and drinks at the Eagles Nest Bar in the MP.

Later, her 18 *itch, friend started complaining how she was told I would treat them ALL to dinner (news to me, as I did not even know the extra four were coming along), I brought them all to one of these restaurants. The cost was P550 for all. I had a single San Miguel and was the only one not to eat. None of them said "thankyou" when I, very sleepy after a long flight earlier that day, got up to leave at 12:30AM. I should have paid for my beer and had the "poor, little rich girls" pay for their own meals. Ateneo University is an expensive school. It they attend here, they have money. AND, I never invited them, only May, and in no way offered dinner for anyone!

Dragon Slayer

Laylow3
06-15-09, 05:49
As to wining and dining filipinas to get laid, this is TOTALLY, COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY.

Spend time talking with the lady and drinking a nice bottle of wine in your hotel room or the poolside restaurant (any halfway decent place will work). Be polite but gradually get very friendly (kissing her neck, cheeks, etc; rubbing her shoulder) and guage her response. She is NOT going to move on you.Hey! Looks like someone has been in my shoes before! I was about to just stop visiting this forum altogether for fear of my "cheap attitude" getting pounced on by everyone. Now don't get me wrong I don't have anything against the way Barba/Nvslim get women and I haven't said anything to that effect. That is their perogative. But I'm young and I don't have loads of dough and frankly even if I did I also don't think it's necessary at all to get laid. It works for my friends and I here (and the pilipinos there also) so should be the same the world over. You don't have to lie either but we all lie sometimes, right? Oh well, I'll leave it at that and my frugal inquiries are directed to DS since it seems we're on the same page at least in this area. No offence nvslim/Barba, no need for disagreements/irony, this is just the internet.

Anyway, I'll plan on relying on good looks and game to get my rocks off. Poolside restaurant at RKG sounds like a nice setting to work with at that.


I do not know what race you are but I do not think it matters. Being able to speak Thai fluently Yeah I'm married to one so yeah I don't think race matters either. I also speak tagalog pretty well like I mentioned earlier.


As to places to stay cheap but nice in Davao City, consider the efficiency rooms at Red Knights Garden. At RKG I paid $ 23.50/nt for only one night and the place was fully booked then. Stay a couple weeks and I bet you can get it for half that price.I'm going to look into this place. I was going to go with Sampagita Inn which only about $11 a night I believe but since RKG has a clean swimming pool paying $14 a night sounds like a good deal. You think I should call the hotel here from the USA and try to get a monthly rate of about $420 ($14*30 =420) or should I just inquire about a daily rate of $13-14 a day and mention that I'll be staying for a month? That should work out just fine. Heck, my rent here is $1000 a month.


Wear whatever you like and that MAKES YOU LOOK GOOD. Ask women (especially hot looking ladies) their opinoins. I know that I look real good in long sleeve, tailored, oxford 100% swiss / egyptian cotton shirts because of the compliments I receive from women. Otherwise I would wear something else. Bring 2 or 3 nice shirts so you can switch in the evening, making you feel better (don't knock it, Frank Sinatra did a complete clothes change four times daily).interesting. I never thought to ask women how I look in clothes. I never really cared but you're right though. Wearing whatever matches you whether it's casual or fancy. Nice tip!


If you stay at the Marco Polo the women will believe you "have money to burn". I stay only because I like the Hotel. I am considering other places next Trip as I want to have privacy. Everyone knows to look for me at MP so I cannot remain "under the radar" there.My point exactly. That's why I don't want to give out that vibe. I'd rather blend in and pretend I'm a balikbayan returning home for a while and then go back to USA.


I almost neglected nice but inexpensive places to dine out. Try the dozen or so Filipino Barbecue Restaurants around Ground Zero (corner of J Camus/Illustre Sts.). These open at 5:00PM and close from 11:00PM to 04:00AM nightly, depending on which restaurant.Weird hours but I'll definitely check them out.


I should have paid for my beer and had the "poor, little rich girls" pay for their own meals. AND, I never invited them, only May, and in no way offered dinner for anyone!

Dragon SlayerI'll be sure to watch out for stuff like this. Also I always thought that when in the PI, the rule is you don't buy anything "expensive" until AFTER the deed is done. And if then only if YOU really want to. Right?

Laylow3
06-15-09, 05:54
Oh yeah and DS, you never stated your opinion on the record in regards to $1000 being enough money to reside in the PI for a month considering what my plans are. (and probably countless other guys for that matter) I know for a fact that if I can get by with $1000 in Davao and have a blast with the ladies. I can for sure easily persuade at least four of my friends to accompany me on my next trip there.

Dragon Slayer
06-16-09, 01:28
Laylow3,

How long will you be staying? A month, 3 months, 6 months. Henny, owner of De Bonte Koe Restaurant (Rizal st, Habana Compound) told me he pays $ 300/ Mo US for his rental home, 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms. I have never seen it as he is NOT the type to invite Dragon Slayer over for drinks. Strangely, neither has GoodEnough seen it.

If you are staying for a month, try RKG. If you bring some pals along, your bargaining power increases. ALL OF YOU go together to negotiate rooms. Be friendly. GoodEnough might be willing to accompany you if asked. Have him assist with negotiations as he is good at this. Try to get a place where you can occasionally cook and you willl save even more.

A $ 1000 should cover your expenses for a month. Avoid taking women out of the Clubs (Hot Legs I, II, III, Galeras, Roman Plaza, The Aquarium,etc). This will entail a barfine of P2500 - P3500 ($53-$ 74) for a few hours with her and she will ask for a tip(give her a good tip, "stop ripping off foreigners"). I go to these places, drink 1-2 beers (P50 each) and catch the 10PM shower show. I might buy a hot looking dancer a drink and have her massage trousersaurus rex as she sits next to me. Around 11:30PM I head over to Rizal Promenade (Thurs, Fri, Sat nts) and look for a lovely lady. I do not push her coming back with me that night. I get her CP# and follow up the next day. This resulted in me meeting/fucking some very lovely, regular ladies.

Dragon Slayer

Laylow3
06-16-09, 06:11
I will be staying for one month only. I won't be able to persuade my friends to come this trip. They will only come after I have been there, tested the place out, and approve off on it. We each do this for each other. I'm not the only one.

I won't be taking any girls out of clubs there either. I plan on just winging it, approaching ladies anywhere and seeing where it goes. Kinda like I do here at home. I don't want to spend money at all if I don't have to so considering that you mentioned talking with the girl over a wine in your hotel room or hotel pool area. I wonder will I have any problems after I do this a couple of times.? I say this because I'll be bringing different girls back to either my room or the hotel pool. I'm curious if any of the girls will find their way back to my hotel and hang out around the pool area waiting for me.

It seems bold to me to directly invite the girl to my room for anything. Please correct if I'm wrong and it's perfectly ok in the PI but here I normally wouldn't go there until after I had at least a bit of time to converse with them. I'm thinking after I make contact in the street, mall, store, library, or wherever I meet them, I'll invite them to have coffee. I can briefly get to know them and feel them out during that time and then invite them to my room. My guess is that having a coffee is very cheap there and it shouldn't be a problem buying them a coffee or just simply talking at the coffee shop without drinking anything.

How about karaoke? Personally I love karaoke and I would love to go karaoke there in Davao. You know, when I visited Angeles city in December, I went to sing karaoke in the Korean area like four times with girls I took out of the bar! They enjoyed it and so did I. It was like $10 an hour compared to $30 an hour here. Anyone know of any specifically Korean karaoke places? If not Korean, then any will do but I'm referring to the type of karaoke where you go into a room and sing with your friends ONLY. Not a karaoke bar where everyone sings together. I don't like those places at all.

Dragon Slayer
06-16-09, 22:06
Laylow3,

First Karaoke. You did not read back to July 2007 here (great photos then). I got stuck taking this filipina with an awesome rack, body to die for and her two daughters out to sing karaoke music in Davao City. There are dozens of these karaoke places. The one we attended has what you are seeking, private singing room.

Go to Rizal Promenade by Bar 183. Across the street is Citibank. To the right is a Restaurant/Karaoke place. Has outdoor tables and private rooms for singing on the side fo P150/hr I think. Lot less than $ 10. Another place is on J Camus. From Casa Leticia Hotel walk in the opposite direction from Illustre St (where filipino barbecue restaurants are) for about 50 meters. Right here is a Restaurant with booths and Karaoke music.

Awhile ago I took my beautiful Jen here. She is a Professional Nightclub Singer in Manila. She does not EVER speak with any of the foreigners I know in Davao or anywhere. No way she would ever sing for them. But we were alone and Jen has no trouble singing, talking or prancing about nude when it is just me. No other foreigners in the Place, we got a booth, had a light meal for a whopping P 150 and she got a mike handed to her by the Manager. For the next hour she sang a multitude of beautiful filipino love songs. I will never forget that experience. FANTASTIC is too mild a word. Not surprising that no one else asked for the microphone.

As to filipinas coming by uninvited. Yes, Yes, and YESSS!!! It will happen so often you will want two rooms. Try to get ladies who are working and know their schedule. Have one visit in the daytime who works evenings and one who works days for the night. Know when each gets off. As to women who are not working. Time to play musical hotel rooms. Similar to the kid game, musical chairs, you change hotel rooms every 2-3 days (or every 2-3 different ladies you fucked, whichever is soonest).

See photo number 3 of the ladies I posted on the Davao Board? She was in my room, top floor Marco Polo, wearing the exact same outfit, when another lady, Rose and her lovely 36C rack, came knocking. It was Rose's day off at the Department Store. To keep the other lady quiet, I had her blow me again, even though I just finished fucking her a few minutes earlier.

I change hotel rooms every few days now. Inform hotel I do NOT want ANYONE to know what room I am staying in or if I am even registered at the Hotel. Excuse for the "revolving rooms" is I want a sea view now or a mountain view. Room is too hot (pussy even hotter) or too noisy (tell them couple in next room makes too much noise having sex at night; cannot sleep). You may need to change hotels after ten days, depending on how good you are with the ladies.

Have fun!

Dragon Slayer

Altered Ego
07-09-09, 20:47
trapped as i am here in the western world (planned a long trip to pi, but unfortunately work prevented it), my thoughts have turned to the possibility of 'retiring' permanently (or perhaps semi-permanently) to cebu, davao or some other philippine city. but not manila. at some point within the next couple of years.

with this in mind, i was wondering what you guys would consider to be the minimum monthly income required to 'live the good life' in the phils? yes, i realise that the answer to this question depends on many things, and that some people are far more extravagant with money than others, but i guess many readers of this forum probably have simiilar ideas about what constitutes a 'good life'. for example:

- an apartment of a reasonable standard, with aircon, and with fairly decent speed internet access (i would probably rent the apartment rather than buy). it should be located in a 'safe' district with reasonably easy access to bars, restaurants and other amenities.

- three good meals per day. let's assume at least one meal in a restaurant, eating western food, for two people (i. e. me plus one 'guest'), and the other two meals at home.

- one girl per day, five days per week. for the sake of argument, let's assume it is a different p4p girl each day, 20 days per month. and lets say (again for the sake of argument) she must be at least a 7 in looks!

- a few beers each day (not too many though! )

- transport costs (mainly taxis i guess. probably wouldn't bother to buy a car at this stage)

- utilities (electric, gas etc)

- mobile phone load charges

- other entertainment costs. e. g trips to the cinema?

- any other 'unavoidable' monthly expenses you can think of?

i guess that's a reasonable list of 'basic' needs. obviously there would be one-off purchases, plus a few holidays and occasional flights to the 'old country', but i would plan on keeping a cash reserve to cover all of these. also, i think it's natural to assume that at some point a person might get a bit tired of this lifestyle, but i am not thinking that far ahead (yet)!

your views would be much appreciated about how much it would cost to maintain such a lifestyle. i heard somewhere that you can 'live like a king' in the phils on 1000usd per month, but that sounded a bit cheap to me! what do you think?

GoodEnough
07-10-09, 11:29
This is a subject of endless debate on another (non-sex) board. There are, believe it or not, guys who claim to live well on $500-$600 a month, but they live well out in the boondocks, far from other expats, and live mainly on the local economy. There are other guys who spend $4,000-$5,000 a month, and there are guys who represent every spending stage between these extremes. That said, it's very difficult to generalize about how much is enough.

The consensus on the other board, and one with which I agree, is that to live a reasonable lifestyle you need between $1,500 and $2,000 a month. Here in Davao, you could rent a decent looking, unfurnished 2 bedroom home for Php12,000-Php15,000 ($250-$300+) a month. You would have to furnish it of course, but furniture is not expensive and you could make it attractive for $1,000 or less. Alternatively, you could rent a nicer place, in a nicer area, for $400 - $500 a month, again unfurnished. As another alternative, you could rent a furnished one bedroom apartment for about $25 - $30 a day (Red Knight Garden), with access to a swimming pool and internet.

If you want to eat Western food (which is all I eat), it will cost you about the same as it would in the States to purchase groceries. If you're willing to go local, it will cost you very little. In any case, fruits and veggies cost almost nothing. The price of restaurant meals will vary widely. You can eat at local "eatery"-type places for less than Php200, or you can eat at Claude's or Henny's for $20-$25 a person. Again, there are several options in between these two extremes.

The cost of transportation is another highly variable item. You can take the local jeepneys and tricycles for almost nothing. You can take taxis, which are fairly inexpensive but ten times the cost of the local modes, or you can own a car. Personally, I prefer the latter option, but it's also the most expensive. You can purchase a perfectly adequate used Kia here for about $2,000 or spend up to $50,000 or so on a new Pajero. Fuel is not cheap, and gasoline is about Php38 a liter, which is about $3.00 a gallon. Diesel is slightly cheaper at about Php33 a liter.

Beer is cheap and not an issue. P4P playmates are again a highly variable cost. If you go to the bars, you're going to spend $70 to $80 for the privilege of company. If you hit the streets, you're going to spend $10 or $11. If however, you work a little at it and meet enough women in the malls, restaurants, bars and clubs, you won't spend anything directly for the sex, but you will spend on meals, entertainment and "gifts."

The general rule, which I believe to be true though cannot verify, is that Cebu is about 20% less expensive than Manila, and Davao is about 20% less expensive than Cebu, so there's better value for money here in Davao for sure. On the other hand, while there's plenty to do in Davao, there's more to do in Cebu.

So the bottom line is that there is a host of highly variable costs that relate to how much you have, how much you want to spend and how you want to live. For $1,500 you can live "okay," but for each multiple of $500 in excess of that, the quality of your lifestyle will increase, if not exponentially, certainly substantially.

GE

Altered Ego
07-11-09, 20:50
Many thanks GE,

As usual you have provided a reply which is so comprehensive that it answers all my questions in a single hit (although of course if anybody else has anything to add, I would be very interested to hear their views).

I guess if I can keep on working for the next couple of years, save hard and don't blow it all on 'entertainment', then it might be possible to turn my 'dream lifestyle' into a reality!

AE

Albetros
08-18-09, 23:03
The prices quoted are a bit on the high side and seem to reflect the cost in Manila and I guess also Davao. I lived in Manila for about 4 years and Angeles for about 5. Angeles is much less expensive than this except for tri-cycles which have crazy prices. Taxis in Manila are less expensive. Go figure.

A two bedroom apartment in Mt-view Angeles is about $100 per month and in Diamond about $150 per month. A house to rent is $250-$300. Furniture is cheap however appliances are much more than in the developed world. For example what we would consider a small fridge with freezer, self defrosting is about $600.

Food (ex-pat) is very cheap compaired to the west. I think this is mostly due to high demand from a huge ex-pat community. For example Aussie Ribeye is about $5.00 per pound including tax. Seafood, pork and chicken is cheap in the local market and veggies cost nothing and are fresh everyday from Baguio. Restaurants serving all types of foreign food and owned and operated by foreigners is also (for the most part) inexpensive once you learn the right places to go and avoid Fields Ave where all the tourist migrate.

Entertainment: Ex-pat gogo bars $0.80-1.40 per beer and a girl $22.00 and she gets half. Tourist bars. Also expat. Hahaha $1.75-2.50 for a beer and the girl from $30-50 depending on the bar. This includes her fee; however, tips in Philippines are always appreciated. In reality if you live here you should never really have to pay for sex and if so no more than 500P.

With all this said I have one strong point to make. It is cheap here; therefore, you will probably spend more money than you would in the west. If this does not really make sense, indulge yourself in Angeles for two weeks, and count your change at the end. I say this because the women, ladies drinks, cheap food so you feed everyone, cheap so everybody gets to drink. A bottle of local Rum is $1.00 And Marlboro Lights are $0.60c. A beer in the Sari Sari store is 0.50c. Cheap but when you buy 5 to 1 of everything its a basic calculation. Its worth it! Have fun.


This is a subject of endless debate on another (non-sex) board. There are, believe it or not, guys who claim to live well on $500-$600 a month, but they live well out in the boondocks, far from other expats, and live mainly on the local economy. There are other guys who spend $4,000-$5,000 a month, and there are guys who represent every spending stage between these extremes. That said, it's very difficult to generalize about how much is enough.

The consensus on the other board, and one with which I agree, is that to live a reasonable lifestyle you need between $1,500 and $2,000 a month. Here in Davao, you could rent a decent looking, unfurnished 2 bedroom home for Php12,000-Php15,000 ($250-$300+) a month. You would have to furnish it of course, but furniture is not expensive and you could make it attractive for $1,000 or less. Alternatively, you could rent a nicer place, in a nicer area, for $400 - $500 a month, again unfurnished. As another alternative, you could rent a furnished one bedroom apartment for about $25 - $30 a day (Red Knight Garden), with access to a swimming pool and internet.

If you want to eat Western food (which is all I eat), it will cost you about the same as it would in the States to purchase groceries. If you're willing to go local, it will cost you very little. In any case, fruits and veggies cost almost nothing. The price of restaurant meals will vary widely. You can eat at local "eatery"-type places for less than Php200, or you can eat at Claude's or Henny's for $20-$25 a person. Again, there are several options in between these two extremes.

The cost of transportation is another highly variable item. You can take the local jeepneys and tricycles for almost nothing. You can take taxis, which are fairly inexpensive but ten times the cost of the local modes, or you can own a car. Personally, I prefer the latter option, but it's also the most expensive. You can purchase a perfectly adequate used Kia here for about $2,000 or spend up to $50,000 or so on a new Pajero. Fuel is not cheap, and gasoline is about Php38 a liter, which is about $3.00 a gallon. Diesel is slightly cheaper at about Php33 a liter.

Beer is cheap and not an issue. P4P playmates are again a highly variable cost. If you go to the bars, you're going to spend $70 to $80 for the privilege of company. If you hit the streets, you're going to spend $10 or $11. If however, you work a little at it and meet enough women in the malls, restaurants, bars and clubs, you won't spend anything directly for the sex, but you will spend on meals, entertainment and "gifts."

The general rule, which I believe to be true though cannot verify, is that Cebu is about 20% less expensive than Manila, and Davao is about 20% less expensive than Cebu, so there's better value for money here in Davao for sure. On the other hand, while there's plenty to do in Davao, there's more to do in Cebu.

So the bottom line is that there is a host of highly variable costs that relate to how much you have, how much you want to spend and how you want to live. For $1,500 you can live "okay," but for each multiple of $500 in excess of that, the quality of your lifestyle will increase, if not exponentially, certainly substantially.

GE

Saibb
09-14-09, 19:52
which of these two banks would be the best choice in opening an account at? looking at number of atm's rep001tered around the country with no atm fees.

thanks,

sb

Josephandjaz
09-14-09, 23:10
which of these two banks would be the best choice in opening an account at? looking at number of atm's rep001tered around the country with no atm fees.

thanks,

sbhsbc is a personal favorite of mine after traveling around the world. great in the middle east as well.

joseph

GoodEnough
09-14-09, 23:15
which of these two banks would be the best choice in opening an account at? looking at number of atm's rep001tered around the country with no atm fees.

thanks,

sbit all depends on where you're planning to be. here in davao, there's a single hsbc branch and there's no citibank. in manila, both banks have several branches.

ge

Dragon Slayer
09-22-09, 03:59
Guys,

This topic is a "hot one" with me. I am seriously considering staying here during the "off peak" periods in my work and operating the Company from the Philippines. Davao is my # 1 option for this. My Home on Leyte is nice but remote and the area has none of the necessary elements for me to effectively communicate with Clients in the USA and elsewhere. Also, I do not fish and have little use for boating (owned a boat once; used it 5 times in four years). Not thinking of "going native" at any point in my foreseeable future.

I will do two things shortly. First, with GoodEnough, discuss the option of renting a Hotel Suite in Davao City for six months of the Year at a Set Price. Otherwise, I will look into renting a 2-3 bedroom home, perhaps on a "rent to own basis". I have looked into what I pay for Hotels in the Philippines over the last three years. The Amount is Significant. A "home base" in Davao City would be great. In a Hotel it would eliminate the need to furnish the Place.

This is just at the discussion stage now and I will update you guys on what I learn over the next few months. One thing is that I would be in the Phils primarily when the Hotels are experiencing less capacity and in the USA during peak capacity (Feb, March, April, May). The only overlap would be that August is the slowest month of the Year in my work. I made the mistake or returing home in early August, only to find that everyone was vacationing or at summer homes and disinterested in work. The second half of August is Sinulog in Davao City and Hotels are fully booked.

When I was leaving Davao in early August, the female valet in the Continental Club asked me to call if I was returning. I was heading to Hong Kong and then the USA. But she was telling me they would make a room there (Club Floor) available for me should I choose to return. With Sinulog approaching this was a nice gesture and makes me wonder if I could work out some arrangement.

Dragon Slayer

Minuteman
10-16-09, 03:20
I currently reside in Bangkok but several of my pals have adamantly recommended that I move to the Philippines instead.

I have to admit, I do favor Filipino women over Thai women.

I've been to Manila and didn't like it. What other parts of the Philippines do you suggest I look at as a place to live? What's important to me?

1. Reliable and fast internet service. I like to work at coffee shops, bars, restaurants, etc because I get bored working out of my house.

2. Reasonable airport service since I still travel 8-10 times a year (just around Asia) for business.

3. Young, sweet, cheap pussy. In general, I'd rather pay for it and get rid of them afterwards.

Suggestions please! Thanks!

Dragon Slayer
11-18-09, 15:09
Minuteman

Sorry for replying so late. I did not check this Board. I made my first twelve (12) Trips to asia solely visitng Thailand. Then I discovered the Philippines. My former wife is Thai. I spean the language almost fluently. I doubt there is a more avaricious woman than a Thai woman. And YES, I have had girlfriends there who were educated and from good families.

For the Airport proximity you need to stay in Davao City, Cebu City or Cagayan de Oro. Ormoc City is nice and has the internet access, coffee shops and tons of beautiful, young women. But you are one and one half hours to the nearest airport in Tacloban. Not much for fine dining, which is on my List, though you did not mention it.

Davao City would be your best move. It has Bo's Coffee Shops all over and the Airport is only 20 minutes from downtown. Tons of women to fuck. Pros, semi pros and regular women. I go for the regular girls here age 18-30. They love to fuck and most do not become clingy. I have three age 18, 24 and 24 that I see and fuck every Trip. It is my guess that all three have filipino boyfriends but I cannot state this absolutely. They all come by to see me before or after work or on their days off. The 18 y/o sees me between classes, blows and fucks me quickly. She then showers, puts on her school uniform and gets a cab back to School.

Drop down to visit Davao, Cagayan de Oro and Ormoc. Spend a few days in each place and then you will be able to decide. Also try Dumaguete. It is much like Ormoc: on the sea, clean and not crowded, tons of lovely co-eds. It also has an airport right there. Flights are limited and are mostly to Manila but this will work for you.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
11-18-09, 23:53
I started the Dumaguete thread on the other Forum back in late 2004. I do not believe my pal, GoodEnough has made it here. I like Dumaguete City for its beauty, lovely sea views and lack of traffic or crowds. Nothing in the way of fine dining, elegant hotels or anything. I once viewed all the Hotels along the Boulevard. None were above standard and the Bethel House is owned and operated by some right wing religious extremists. Must sing an "agreement" upon check-in that you will NOT drink alcoholic beverages, smoke or bring women in the hotel. What is the point of staying there then???
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I stayed at a smal resort on the opposite end of the Island once. Took a 45 minute taxi ride to get there from the Boulevard. It was nice but absolutely nothing there once you arrived and after 7PM you were stuck there until morning. When I stayed in a Hotel on the Boulevard directly to the left of the "What Not Bar" the room was standard and the hotel had nothing to offer in amenities. The "What Not Bar" and its Disco are where everyone hangs out from morning until evening.

This is a very inexpensive place to live. A good 25%-35% less than Cebu City. Quiet, peaceful but with little in what I enjoy suck as nightlife, fine dining and decent places to go and listen to music in the night. Does have a few Go-Go Bars with dancers that stay open until 02:00AM and down the corner of the Boulevard is an Open Air Restaurant that is open until 05:00AM.

You are 3 1/2 hour boat ride from Cebu and flights go daily to Manila from the small AIrport. Do not think any flights go to Davao or Cebu.

Dragon Slayer

SergeantRay
11-19-09, 02:40
Dragon Slayer,

I agree that Dumaguete is really an enjoyable place, even if it is "low rent."

There isn't fine dining, unless the steak place on the boulevard counts (Attilo's?). I like the simple stuff, like Shakey's, the Persian Palate, Jo's Chicken Inato, and the cafeteria at Scooby's.

I like the view of Siquijor from the food court on the upper floor of Lee Super Plaza.

There used to be an Angelo's Italian, owned by a guy straight from Italy, but it wasn't there this July when I was in town.

The town is safe and easy to get around on foot. I studied Thai boxing and eskrima there (Look up Khru Ike Villaflores), and there are nice places just out of town, like Sea Foerest, Apo Island, Siquijor, Casaroro Falls, Mabinay, etc. There are several small theaters, too.

When you get tired of Dumaguete, Cebu isn't very far.

My girlfriend really enjoyed it. I think it's a great place to get away from Cebu for a while.

Firedick
02-12-10, 17:24
Gentlemen,

I'm a former regular poster and former resident of Angeles and Manila (commuted).

Back in the states now dreaming of the day I get to retire and move back. As with many of you, it seems, I'm looking for something less hectic than AC. So, I'm considering the south. As an avid diver, the under sea side is almost as important as the top side fun.

I'm leaning toward Palawan, based solely on what I've learn from non-sex travel sites. Yes... I will "RTFF" deligently, but would appreciate any personal input you guys might have.

Next RP trip has to wait until April 2011, and I'm gonna try not to let my pecker do all the thinking,, as to where we're going, and do some real research into living locales.

Regardless of responses. Thank you much for the info already provided.

Firedick

GoodEnough
02-13-10, 03:33
DS is correct. I've not been to Dumaguete and, despite the fact that its laid back, I probably wouldn't find it appealing. I'm strictly a city boy and get nervous with too much nature and not enough concrete! However, one alternative that I would consider is CDO. It's a smallish city, but it's got pretty much everything that Davao has, albeit on a smaller scale. It's reasonably clean; it's got decent (but not outstanding) restaurants; good hotels, malls and other shopping areas, and it's reasonably attractive. From what I understand from colleagues of mine who live there, it's also got a reasonably low crime rate.

DS has written about CDO fairly extensively and recently, and commented to me while we were there together that he could live in CDO. I understand fully why he said this.

GE

It5507
02-13-10, 13:49
I know the forum is for sex, but I will be traveling to Davao for family and business research purposes. Mainly staying in the Matina area... Juna or just north of Juna.

Davao sounds like a nice city with many city conveniences.

I am looking for recommendations for the following:

- Tailor for alterations for a few suits (I've recently lost alot of weight and need my jackets and slacks taken in) What is a fair price for such work?

- Dentist: I have a few crowns needed in the molars. The price I've found in Manila is starting at 150 US with standard metal

- A nice condotel or hotel that can hold 3 adults and 2 toddler.

Also is Paradise Island close enough for day trips?

Thanks for your feedback.

Rubio Tonto
02-14-10, 01:36
Some of the best land-based diving in the country, plus five or six girlie bars on Sabang Beach. From what I saw last month in two of the bars plus walking around Sabang during the day, the attractiveness of the girls is consistently higher than the girls in AC. I was with my gf so I couldn't do a test drive, but there was some very decent trim walking around.

GoodEnough
02-14-10, 14:28
I've responded to your questions in the body of your post.


I know the forum is for sex, but I will be traveling to Davao for family and business research purposes. Mainly staying in the Matina area... Juna or just north of Juna.

Davao sounds like a nice city with many city conveniences.

I am looking for recommendations for the following:

- Tailor for alterations for a few suits (I've recently lost alot of weight and need my jackets and slacks taken in) What is a fair price for such work? Chardin Tailor around the corner from the Apo View Hotel. It's the best in town and does and excellent job, with lovely cloth from Italy, France and England.

- Dentist: I have a few crowns needed in the molars. The price I've found in Manila is starting at 150 US with standard metal Contact me by PM and I'll send you the contact information on my dentist. She's excellent.

- A nice condotel or hotel that can hold 3 adults and 2 toddler.

There are several. You could take an apartment at Red Knight Garden, or try the Micro Hotel on Aliongto Rd. The latter's not a condohotel but it's got some enormous rooms.

Also is Paradise Island close enough for day trips? Paraside Island is about a 5 minute boat ride and you can easily spend a few hours there and make it back to Davao whenever you want.

Thanks for your feedback.

It5507
02-22-10, 09:20
I've responded to your questions in the body of your post.Thanks for the feedback GE. I don't have PM function for the dentist information, but will look for the one in Matina Square as mentioned by DS.

How much for a massage with HE or BJ at the Apo View basement?

Thanks again.

X Man
02-23-10, 13:14
The answer is yes, as has already been posted. Just a quick warning in case you are a late riser like me, the place seems to shut down about 5pm. After 5pm the boats will try to convince you that a private boat charge is necessary, but there are regular boats after 5pm. At least one for the employees who live in Davao.

If you go snorkeling, be advised that there is a strong current. Figure out where the current will take you and enter the water up-current. Don't be a dumbass like me and spend 15 min swimming and getting nowhere.

X


SNIP

Also is Paradise Island close enough for day trips?

Thanks for your feedback.

It5507
03-13-10, 21:00
Thanks for the replies.

I made it to Davao for a short week.

No offense intended, but wanted to share my experience with Chardon's, Red Knight, and Paradise.

Chardon's may be good, but very expensive compared to before (at least what DS ballparked alterations). Brian quoted me P850 to take in my slacks (waist and thighs) and P4000 to take in my jacket. Lead time. At least a week. For that I decide to just buy new suits in the US. 3 Day Suit Broker in LA has CK suits for $159, less for less famous tag.

Red Knight was ok, but the others with me didn't care for the ants in the kitchen, bathroom, or living room. Also did not receive daily towel service. The restaurant was good with reasonable pricing. Karen is a sweet girl. Interesting seeing the 60. 70 year old men with the 18. 20 year old females. Since I was with company, I could not party with a few of the perm. Residents, could be a good time.

Paradise was good for day trips. Enjoyed it even with low tide and weekday.

Thanks again.

Irony Monger
03-23-10, 02:43
ds, ge, hope you two can help out here. i've been trying to plan a vacation to pi for some time now, but various work emergencies keep coming up that prevent me from taking more than a few days off at a time.

fortunately though, i have a job that lets me work from anywhere, as long as i have a good internet connection, so i am considering an extended working vacation instead (2-3 weeks). maybe put in 4 hours/day keeping up with emails, a few phone calls over skype, etc., then spend the rest of my time enjoying the company of the lovely ladies.

so, any recommendations for quiet, companion-friendly hotels that are reasonably secure with reliable power and high speed internet? price wise i would prefer something under $80/night, with decent food in the area. at this point, any city is fine, as long as "opportunities" abound. i figure i could always take weekend trips to other locations as desired.

Dragon Slayer
03-24-10, 12:41
Irony Monger,

Short and brief as I worked all night and have a Meeting in a few hours. Hotels under $80/Nt with wifi and desks, good lighting, and efficient work areas:

Makati City Herald Suites Hotel
Cebu City Crowne Regency Hotel, Guadalupe (no wifi but good computers to use and a nice Conference Room in the business center. I worked in for four hours once). Rooms have decent work areas that I used even when my daughters' were with me.

Davao City Marco Polo Hotel is absolutely the best for this. Next is Apoview Hotel. For the Marco get the Deluxe Room and it is in your budget.

Cagayan de Oro City Mallberry Hotel GoodEnough and I get the Executive Rooms with a decent work area and wifi.

Dragon Slayer

Irony Monger
03-24-10, 17:16
Irony Monger,

Short and brief as I worked all night and have a Meeting in a few hours. Hotels under $80/Nt with wifi and desks, good lighting, and efficient work areas:

Makati City Herald Suites Hotel
Cebu City Crowne Regency Hotel, Guadalupe (no wifi but good computers to use and a nice Conference Room in the business center. I worked in for four hours once). Rooms have decent work areas that I used even when my daughters' were with me.

Davao City Marco Polo Hotel is absolutely the best for this. Next is Apoview Hotel. For the Marco get the Deluxe Room and it is in your budget.

Cagayan de Oro City Mallberry Hotel GoodEnough and I get the Executive Rooms with a decent work area and wifi.

Dragon SlayerThanks DS! I'm looking at either late April or sometime in May, so this info will is quite helpful. Regarding the Crowne in Cebu, I am assuming you mean this hotel right?

http://www.crownregencyhotels.com/hotel/accommodations.php

Seems to have in-room internet (wired, I assume), which is more important to me than wireless throughout the hotel, so this is looking like a good candidate for me. If I head up to Davao for a few days I'll keep the Marco in mind.

GoodEnough
03-24-10, 23:00
irony monger:

the internet connections in mindanao right now can be a bit erratic, given the power cuts, especially for those hotels that advertise wireless access, since the routers go down when the power goes off. the same, i'm sure, for cebu which is also experiencing power outages. to be safe, you might consider purchasing the wireless modems offered by both smart and globe. they cost about php1800 ($38), and work with a sim card that comes with the modem. you can then purchase time. i think the cost is about php40 ($.45) an hour. these are reasonably reliable, but the speed can vary enormously. however, they're fine for emails. i've even used mine--with mixed success--for skype.

at the larger hotels in davao you will not run into these problems since they all have generators. the mallberry in cdo has a generator as well and the mallberry suite rooms are great for work. the constant power outages can damage the wireless routers there, but the hotel will also lend you a cable so you needn't depend on the wifi.

ge

Irony Monger
03-25-10, 17:24
irony monger:

the internet connections in mindanao right now can be a bit erratic, given the power cuts, especially for those hotels that advertise wireless access, since the routers go down when the power goes off. the same, i'm sure, for cebu which is also experiencing power outages. to be safe, you might consider purchasing the wireless modems offered by both smart and globe. they cost about php1800 ($38), and work with a sim card that comes with the modem. you can then purchase time. i think the cost is about php40 ($.45) an hour. these are reasonably reliable, but the speed can vary enormously. however, they're fine for emails. i've even used mine--with mixed success--for skype.

at the larger hotels in davao you will not run into these problems since they all have generators. the mallberry in cdo has a generator as well and the mallberry suite rooms are great for work. the constant power outages can damage the wireless routers there, but the hotel will also lend you a cable so you needn't depend on the wifi.

gege,

thanks for the info. good to know about the outages. i plan to be working off a netbook with long battery life, and will definitely get one of the wireless modems you mentioned to keep me afloat with email, and a backup cell phone with a reasonable international calling plan for when skype fails.

GoodEnough
03-30-10, 11:18
Today I got my Globe bill, and was shocked to see that it was about three times higher than it's ever been. Given that there was nothing unusual about my calling patterns over the last month, I took a really hard look at the itemized bill, only to realize that there were more than 50 calls to some number I didn't recognize in the 408 area code of the US. Since I use Skype to make about 98% of all calls to the US, it was pretty obvious that I hadn't made those calls, and since the BlackBerry was never with anyone else but me, it was fairly obvious that someone had "cloned" my sim card.

I have to admit that Globe was very understanding, and told me that I certainly wasn't the first customer to whom this had happened. Though I had been cloned twice years ago in the States, this is the first time I've even heard of it here. So a word of caution for those with post-paid sims, is probably in order.

GE

Irony Monger
07-12-10, 17:51
Just returned from my first trip to PI, and thought I would share my thoughts on what I loved best:

Things I love about the Philippines (serious edition)

* Girls, girls, girls!

* Feeling quapo

* SmartBro cellular broadband. Should have been the first thing I bought, but silly me thought that when a place advertizes internet access, they would actually have it and it would be somewhat reliable. Once I got my SmartBro, I was always connected. Though it was sometimes slow.

* San Miguel Light

* More girls!

* Winks, thumbs up, or outright high fives from hotel doormen when you bring back 4 girls, vs. The dirty looks our outright eviction one would typically receive from 4+ star hotel staff in the west (Vegas excluded).

* Feeling rich with just $100 worth of local currency in my pocket.

* Did I mention the girls?

Things I love about the Philippines (sarcastic edition)

* "Itsokay" is the answer to every problem (me: you're 5 ***ing hours late! Her: "Itsokay! ")

* All the friendly people trying to "help you" anytime you look lost or confused. Amazing how they all seem to have the same relative in the hospital about to die if you don't give them PHP 1000 in the next 5 minutes. Of course they will meet you back at the hotel and return the money later tonight after they get paid. Don't you trust them?

* No need to remind yourself that insects make up the majority of the biomass on the planet. Just look under the bed.

* Seems that 100 PHP can also double as a boarding pass at airport security. How convenient!

* Every time I plug in my laptop. SPARKS! Hey, who doesn't love free fireworks!

Hairy Wonder
12-29-10, 22:26
I recently started searching for information on sending text to cell phones from my e-mail. I know it is possible here in the US, by sending to XXXXXXXXXX@txt.att. (where X represents the phone number). And I am sure the other major carriers in USA have similar methods. But I can't seem to find any information for similar techniques with the major carriers (Smart, Globe, Sun) in PI. I try to keep in touch with the mothers of my 2 kids in PI, as well as some of the other women I have met in person, or online. With inflation constantly on the rise, I'm trying to find the most inexpensive way to do this. If anyone has information about this, please let me know. I have lists of the carriers, and their prefixes. I just need to know how to format the "send to" address.

Thanks!

HW

Davao Local Hunk
01-03-11, 04:47
How about telling your loved ones to log in to Yahoo Messenger via their Cellphones. There's a monthly rate for it or daily I think. Its cheaper compared to you sending text messages to them. How it works is simple, you just open your YM and send them messages, they will receive it in their phones if they're subscribed to YM. Local carriers support it and has lots of promos.

Sadly theres no email to sms thing here.


I recently started searching for information on sending text to cell phones from my e-mail. I know it is possible here in the US, by sending to XXXXXXXXXX@txt.att. (where X represents the phone number). And I am sure the other major carriers in USA have similar methods. But I can't seem to find any information for similar techniques with the major carriers (Smart, Globe, Sun) in PI. I try to keep in touch with the mothers of my 2 kids in PI, as well as some of the other women I have met in person, or online. With inflation constantly on the rise, I'm trying to find the most inexpensive way to do this. If anyone has information about this, please let me know. I have lists of the carriers, and their prefixes. I just need to know how to format the "send to" address.

Thanks!

HW

Hairy Wonder
01-14-11, 06:34
DLH,

Thanks for the suggestion. I have used YM on occasion to send messages to the phones there. It is a great service, but after 3 texts, it will not send any more, until they reply to your YM. I have also used Chikka. Com for sending. But it is flaky sometimes, sending duplicate texts to the phone, or not sending at all. I was once asked why I was sending the same message multiple times everyday for a week. Just trying to find something with less restrictions, and more reliability.

HW.

P. S. Hope you are feeling better DS!

Progman
02-05-11, 17:21
Gentlemen,

I'm a former regular poster and former resident of Angeles and Manila (commuted).

Back in the states now dreaming of the day I get to retire and move back. As with many of you, it seems, I'm looking for something less hectic than AC. So, I'm considering the south. As an avid diver, the under sea side is almost as important as the top side fun.

I'm leaning toward Palawan, based solely on what I've learn from non-sex travel sites. Yes. I will "RTFF" deligently, but would appreciate any personal input you guys might have.

Next RP trip has to wait until April 2011, and I'm going to try not to let my pecker do all the thinking, as to where we're going, and do some real research into living locales.

Regardless of responses. Thank you much for the info already provided.

FiredickHey buddy. It's been ages since I last saw anything from you other than your Facebook page. My asawa and I visited Puerto Princesa for a weekend. The resorts were nice but one thing I quickly noticed about Palawan was an overall lack of infrastructure IMO.

I ended up building a home in Surigao Del Norte. Our town is only about 10 km from Surigao City. You might want to look around this area. Also, Siargao Island has seen an increase in foreigners moving there permanently (not just to enjoy the Surfing). That said General Luna has really built up. They now have an airport that you can fly to from Cebu. Rumor has it they are expanding the runway to accommodate aircraft as large as a Boeing 727. This will be significant because they can possibly support International flights.

Anyway I have not regretted planting my roots in Mindanao. I only visit once or twice a year but my wife is able to fly back and forth often to oversee renovations and upgrades (like we're doing now).

Take care. (prog)

Paul2020
02-15-11, 01:05
I recently started searching for information on sending text to cell phones from my e-mail. I know it is possible here in the US, by sending to XXXXXXXXXX@txt.att. (where X represents the phone number). And I am sure the other major carriers in USA have similar methods. But I can't seem to find any information for similar techniques with the major carriers (Smart, Globe, Sun) in PI. I try to keep in touch with the mothers of my 2 kids in PI, as well as some of the other women I have met in person, or online. With inflation constantly on the rise, I'm trying to find the most inexpensive way to do this. If anyone has information about this, please let me know. I have lists of the carriers, and their prefixes. I just need to know how to format the "send to" address.

Thanks!

HWBesides Yahoo that was mentioned previously, I've used.

www.ipipi.com

And Skype to send SMS messages internationally. Rates are far below what Verizon (my USA carrier) charges.

www.ipipi.com

Typically originates the SMS out of the U. K. That can be good to disguise where you are. Return texts are directed to the online web application and / or your email.

Skype will either show your home cell number or nothing if you choose. Skype return texts go to your home cell number which if you are traveling isn't great unless you are roaming. Verizon currently offers no method to get access to texts from an application.

GoodEnough
06-15-11, 14:03
Gentlemen:

Today, the US Department of State posted a new travel advisory on the Philippines. It contains little that's new, but its tone is more strident and makes the country appear more dangerous than the prior advisory. The State Department warning reads, in part, as follows:


Philippines.

June 14, 2011.

The Department of State warns USA citizens of the risks of terrorist activity in the Philippines, particularly in the Sulu Archipelago and on the island of Mindanao. Terrorist attacks could be indiscriminate and could occur in other areas, to include Manila. Targeted sites may be public gathering places including, but not limited to, airports, shopping malls, conference centers, and other public venues. This Travel Warning replaces the Travel Warning dated November 2, 2010, and updates specific regions of concern and reflects continuing threats due to terrorist and insurgent activities.

Travelers should exercise extreme caution if traveling to Mindanao or the Sulu Archipelago. Regional terrorist groups have carried out bombings resulting in injuries and death. Sporadic clashes have occurred between lawless groups and the Philippine Armed Forces throughout Mindanao, particularly in rural areas. USA Government employees must seek special permission to travel to Mindanao or the Sulu Archipelago.

The Philippine government declared a state of emergency on November 24, 2009, for the Maguindanao and Sultan Kudarat provinces, as well as Cotabato City in Mindanao, as a result of election-related violence. Although the elections have passed, this state of emergency is still in effect. Travelers should be aware of heightened police activity and significant military presence in these areas. They should carefully research restrictions imposed on travel and follow the instructions of government officials. *

Kidnap-for-ransom gangs are active throughout the Philippines and have targeted foreigners. USA citizens traveling, living, and working throughout the Philippines are urged to exercise heightened caution in public gathering places. **USA citizens should exercise caution when traveling in the vicinity of demonstrations since they can turn confrontational and possibly escalate to violence.What this implies, to me, is that less-than-intrepid souls are going to avoid coming here, and that the market of punters (the demand side of the demand-supply equation) will shrink. Assuming that the supply side remains constant, which is likely will given the crap economy and the lack of opportunity, those of us who will ignore the warning and remain and / or continue to travel here may experience a bonanza.

GE

Dragon Slayer
06-17-11, 00:54
GoodEnough,

Thankyou for this informative post. I have been calling you for over a week now. I finally gave up three days ago as I had called more than _______ since my return and I cleared the security block on my phone each time so you would have no doubt it was me calling. But to no avail as either my calls went unanswered and unreturned or were "cut off" in the middle of the ringing, indicating that you could not or would not answer at that time.

Good to know you still post here in any event.

Dragon Slayer

Cyber Whip
06-17-11, 01:20
Besides Yahoo that was mentioned previously, I've used.

www.ipipi.com

And Skype to send SMS messages internationally. Rates are far below what Verizon (my USA carrier) charges.

www.ipipi.com

Typically originates the SMS out of the U. K. That can be good to disguise where you are. Return texts are directed to the online web application and / or your email.

Skype will either show your home cell number or nothing if you choose. Skype return texts go to your home cell number which if you are traveling isn't great unless you are roaming. Verizon currently offers no method to get access to texts from an application.There is now free SMS text to Smart and Sun in Gmail. You get something like 50 txts initially then if you get a reply, from anyone, you get 5 credits return. The reply can be your own cell phone, so in theory it is almost limitless txting. Be warned though, a reply from Philippines to gmail is something like 20p, so the local's load will evaporate quickly. Best to have a smart sim in unlocked at&t phone, put it in international mode. Then you can receive replies for 1p as if you were still in the country. So you can send a text for free and get a reply back from them (their cost is 1p, or so, depends on system). Best to use Smart for all this, I haven't tested with Sun to know the details.

Chocha Monger
06-17-11, 02:44
Gentlemen:

Today, the US Department of State posted a new travel advisory on the Philippines. It contains little that's new, but its tone is more strident and makes the country appear more dangerous than the prior advisory. The State Department warning reads, in part, as follows:

What this implies, to me, is that less-than-intrepid souls are going to avoid coming here, and that the market of punters (the demand side of the demand-supply equation) will shrink. Assuming that the supply side remains constant, which is likely will given the crap economy and the lack of opportunity, those of us who will ignore the warning and remain and / or continue to travel here may experience a bonanza.

GEHave you noticed that the most beautiful Filipinas live in the dangerous areas?

Member #4491
06-17-11, 20:21
There is now free SMS text to Smart and Sun in Gmail.Could you elaborate a bit more on how you set this up, Cyber Whip? I did not quite understand the AT&T phone strategy either, but it does sound interesting. I associate AT&T with USA. Maybe I am wrong but it might be in place to mention that I am one of those not residing there.

B

Dragon Slayer
07-03-11, 04:06
Guys,

Many of us travelling here have encountered ladies who are married but "separated" due to the No Divorce Law here. I met a few who told me they were single and I later discovered they were married. A few said they were Legally Separated but later they were back with their Husband. And of the 140, 000 or more Women working in Hong Kong as domestic helpers, I was told by one there that a very high percentage of these women are married. They have husbands and children back in the Philippines but this does not stop them from trying to.

Attract the attention of Foreign Men. What I never once thought about was the ADULTERY LAW that exists in the Philippines. Not until I was watching a program here in the USA last week.

I was in my livingroom in the evening eating, drinking some excellent No. California red and looking for a program to watch. Since I had my satellite system installed I am overwhelmed with several hundred stations. This time I check out the National Geographic Channel. The Program is titled,"locked up abroad". It is weekly and lasts for one hour. This one got my immediate attention. Concerned a handsome, educated and very articulate British man who meets and falls in love with a beautiful filipina in her mid 20s who lives in Manila. She becomes pregnant by him. Problem is she is still legally married and her estranged husband files a Complaint citing the Adultery Law.

This took place in 2005-2006, not 25 years ago. They are both arrested and charged with Felony Adultery. The sentence if found guilty is 17 years imprisonment. They are placed in the same cell where they stay for a week or longer until they are able to make bail. Having hired a decent, honest Attorney through the girl's Family in Manila, he was able to arrange their bail. He also gets charges against the man dropped as the Criminal Complaint had been issued in the wrong Name. But he tells him in a short period they will rectify this and once again arrest him.

The attorney advises the British guy to leave the Philippines immediately, never to return. But his woman is not more than eight months pregnant with his child. They go into hiding with members of her Family. Her husband, however, is taking this personally for whatever reason. He has men wait for them for their next Court Appearance. When they exit, a black van follows the car driven by their attorner. On the highway, he tries to shoot both of them, sitting in the back seat. The attorney runs a red light causing a traffic jam which blocks the van, and then pulls off the road and the two get out and run off and hide, as he drives in a differnt direction.

They have the baby and bring the child to the British Embassy, a Place they had previously gone seeking help but getting nothing. Here, they are informed that underr Philippine Law, the Child is legally Property of the girl's husband, to do with as he chooses. Miserable, they go back to her Family. Fortunately the British man has some money. He is able to bribe Government Officials with a sum of $ 10, 000 US for papers for both the child and his woman. Then they exit the country for Hong Kong and onto the UK from their.

They can never return to the Philippines as they face arrest and possibly murder at the hands of her husband there.

It had me re-thinking quite a lot. No more "separated" filipinas crossing my path. I leave them for the rest of you guys. Only single women for me and widows (I may insist on viewing and sniffing the corpse of her husband to verify this).

Dragon Slayer

TazDevil
07-03-11, 05:45
Slayer,

I posted in the "Living in the Philippines" section about this episode.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1512-Living-in-the-Philippines/page2

I wasn't as detailed as you were in some of the info, however, got the same conclusion as you did. I've deleted all of the separated and single ones with children I selected in Filipino Cupid as potential contacts for my next trip to the Islands. I'll be sticking to the single ones with no kids from now on. Why take any un-necessary risks as there are so many fish in the pond.

Chocha Monger
07-04-11, 00:02
Slayer,

I posted in the "Living in the Philippines" section about this episode.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1512-Living-in-the-Philippines/page2

I wasn't as detailed as you were in some of the info, however, got the same conclusion as you did. I've deleted all of the separated and single ones with children I selected in Filipino Cupid as potential contacts for my next trip to the Islands. I'll be sticking to the single ones with no kids from now on. Why take any un-necessary risks as there are so many fish in the pond.It would behoove anyone thinking of knocking up a Filipina to request an official copy of her CENOMAR. The small fee of 400 pesos can keep you out of jail and reduce the odds of being murdered as an unwitting party to adultery. Many Filipinas marry young to men from their province but it doesn't end their aspirations to catch a rich foreigner for immigration benefits or to give birth to babies with blue eyes and long noses. It's best to steer clear of the hustlers and social climbers in your quest for sweeter meats. When that 'separated' or 'single with children' brown clam beckons sweetly to you just remember Article 349 of the Revised Penal Code and the risk of being locked up abroad for 17 long years over an errant cum shot.

Dragon Slayer
07-05-11, 02:46
Guys,

Chocha Monger,

Thankyou. Are you an Attorney practicing in the Philippines? Citing the Philippine Penal Code is of great assistance to us all. I will take time to research this Section in depth to be certain I am fully aware of it and the Outcome for those violating this.

Tazdevil,

Thankyou also for taking the time to provide your opinion on this matter.

Guys,

DO NOT BE FUCKING DUBMSHITS AND THINK THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO YOU. I will spare you how many times in my Life I have had some hustler here in the USA tell me he "knew what he was doing" when I advised him that he was coming into conflict with US Laws and should mend the error of his wasy fast. My erstwhile pal, Steve, who dies four years ago at only age 62 is one example of this. He would ignore my advise and, instead, want to tell me what to do. He died from illness complicated by chronic drinking and failure to receive prompt medical treatment. At the time of his death, he was broke and alone. Another case in point is my pal I have referred to here in the past, Ed, an engineer of some prominence. He just thought he could ignore the Law. Now, he is in hiding as the Law, as I advised him, is searching for him. He shut down all his e-mail addresses and cellphone numbers. If the Feds really want him, it is only a brief period of time before they find him.

If we do ignore all the women that are pregnant or have children, it is a high percentage of the women we will encounter here in the Philippines. What is necessary is to verrify that she IS NOT MARRIED. There is no divorce here and all the husband needs to do is get to the Government Office and file a complaint citing the Adultery Law. They will handle the rest. Have any of you "tough guys" ever seen the inside of a US State Prison where the hardened criminals are housed? It IS a Place, as my Father once appropriately stated to me as a teenager, where you would NOT wish to spend a single night, let alone several years (I was complaining of a light sentence dished out to some piece of shit). Now just imagine how much worse the INSIDE OF A PHILIPPINE PRISON MUST BE.

No, I do NOT think any of you would want to find out. Yes, a few of us do have funds available, and perhaps, other influences, to get us out of Trouble. But for me, I will avoid this situation forever. As I said, I met several women who told me they were unmarried, only later did I find that a husband was "sitting in the shadows".

Dragon Slayer

Bob Bowie
07-05-11, 09:55
Now I always ask a girl for her Facebook (or Friendster in the past). Her Facebook wall, friends list and photos will tell you so much about her. If she says she does not have a an account she is lying 99 percent of the time.

I have used facebook to find out girls had children (pinays love to post pics of the babies) , many boyfriends and some gays. Most of the time you can plug in the yahoo address they give you to search for them on Facebook.

Ps. I plan to be back in mid Sept-mid Oct. GE, hope to run into at Swiss Deli.

Dragon Slayer
09-21-11, 06:17
Guys,

Sending money to the Philippines has always been a challenge. With children here I need to be able to send money to the Mommies on a regular basis. Placing a large sum in a bank account in their Name or sending a large sum (ie: $ 500) at once is unacceptable. Any one of the little ladies would take and utilize ALL the money for imagined "needs" or "emergencies" within a week. Wolfgang, GM of Apoview Hotel in Davao City says I am optimistic in thinking they would allow the money to sit there for such a "long period of time" as one week. It is just impossible for a filipina to NOT spend any and all available money the moment she gets her hands on this.

Fifteen years ago I learned this the Hard Way with a Filipina in Cebu City. I left just before December 1, having spent the long US Thanksgiving holiday with her. I had opened three bank accounts in both our Names earlier in the Year in anticipation of getting married. Before leaving I left her these Accounts just in case she needed a little money. I returned exactly three (3) weeks later to find that she had spent 100% of the money I had deposited over the year. It amounted to about 60-70% of her annual earnings working at MEPZ in a factory there in Lapu-Lapu City. ANd she had a BS in English degree from a College in the Mindanao.

I later was to learn what I initialy suspected. She had a Filipino boyfriend who took the money for alcohol, drugs, prostitutes, etc. Important things. ANd she gave him the money, MY MONEY! Now I do not think any of the Mothers are as stupid as she was or as devious. They each could very well have a boyfriend hidden but I am sure as hell NOT giving them access to any of my money.

In any event I finally got set up online with Metro Bank in the Philippines. I established ATM Accounts in the Names of each little mother. Using my Bank Account I transfer via the internet amounts in pesos directly into the Bank Accounts of each mother. This works perfectly and saves me much time and thousands of dollars in wire transfer fees to send money via Western Union, Moneygram or Xoom (cheapest but also inefficient and prone to fuckups). I decide how much and when to make the transfer and it is accomplished immediately. For transfers to Accounts not in the same Area as my Primary Account (such as to Leyte, Cebu or Manila) , I pay a 25 peso fee; about sixty cents US.

I recommend this for all guys who need to send funds to a girlfriend or wife or mother of your children in the Philippines. Having a bank account there also reduces the need to carry large amounts of cash with you on your Trips. ANd it also is great for times of emergency.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
10-09-11, 05:01
Guys,

The US Ambassador to the Philippines has done what every Bureaucrat does: make a dumb, fucking comment! Why I have no respect for bureaucrats, among many other reasons. He said that "40% of the men who visit the Philippines each year come here for sex trade". What a dumb ass! I mean even I stop and think before I make any statements to ANYONE. And no one is really listening to me. But he says this IN THE PHILIPPINES. He, at first, even tried to confirm his comment.

No matter what the truth of this is (actually I think 40% is a bit low) , you first ask yourself what will be the reaction of the People it affects, in this instance, the People of the Philippines. He ONLY backtracked when faced with tons of criticism. Personally, I think he is not long for the Philippines. Time for a replacement.

On another topic, when I speak of Bank Accounts I need to mention that you have a Primary Bank Account where only your Name is on the Account. And you set up minor, joint accounts for any ladies in your life where you transfer the funds from the Primary Bank Account.

DO NOT be a stupid fuck! If you tell her how much is in the Primary Account, you will be flooded with "emergencies" requiring money UNTIL the Primary Bank Account has been exhausted.

Back fifteen years ago in Cebu City I met ol Petey, dumb fuck if ever there was one. He came from some tiny place in Iowa, easily one of the coldest and least populated of our 50 States. He should have been hanging out with the Kid, my nephew, as he was equally as bad at meeting filipinas. He spent virtually all his waking hours hanging out in the lobby restaurant of this tiny hotel in Cebu City, Acropolis Hotel. The hotel has long since disappeared and so, I assume did ol Petey. He came after New Year's as he spent the Holidays with Mommy, sort of like Sir Brad.

Petey was 46, never married and "starving for pussy". He meets some filipina in her mid 20's that says she is in college studying pre-med (ya right!). He is so mesmerized with this hustler that, in an effort to impress her, he opens an ATM bank account for her and shows her how to withdraw funds using her card. He puts five thousand dollars (Yes you read it correctly, $ 5, 000 US) into this Account. He is really proud of himself and struts around the hotel telling one and all what he did. Dumbest fucker I ever met! He makes Jellyfish look intelligent! Something I would have labelled an "Impossible Task".

Oh and I forgot to mention: not only has Petey NOT gotten laid by this Hustler (She did "fuck" him over figuratively, quite magnificently however) , but he confided to me after the "damages" that she never even kissed him. But she DID clean out ALL the money in twenty-five days (25 days) , as fast as she could withdraw it at the maximum of $ 200 / day. I was in the restaurant next to the swimming pool early one afternoon. Petey almost knocked me over as he went to get the bar phone as it rang. WHen I asked Dumb Fuck what the hell he was doing, he explained his predicament.

The girl, having acquired the $ 5000, bluntly told old Petey to GET LOST! This was too much for Petey to take! I honestly expected him to commit suicide as he was realting his sad tale to me. He had called her and told her she had to either meet him to talk at Mc Donald's on Osmena BLvd or he would NOT introduce her friend to his Pal from Iowa. Obviously she figured that his friend was every fucking bit as dumb as Petey was. For 1 1/2 hours I sat in this tiny restaurant eating a hamburger and sipping coffee, watching Petey literally jump out of his chair and "run like the devil was chasing him" to get the bar phone whenever it rang.

I did my best to avoid Petey (his brain disease or whatever he had might be contageous) whenever I was going to / from my room to the lobby to go out. He was always strutting around talking to one and all and relating his "Tale".

And this was 15 years ago. That $ 5000 today would be at least $ 12, 000 in actual spending power.

Dragon Slayer

Irony Monger
10-11-11, 21:02
Guys,

If we do ignore all the women that are pregnant or have children, it is a high percentage of the women we will encounter here in the Philippines. What is necessary is to verrify that she IS NOT MARRIED. There is no divorce here and all the husband needs to do is get to the Government Office and file a complaint citing the Adultery Law.Very informative post. I've been chatting with a VERY attractive young mother for a while and was planning on visiting her, but recently found out that she has not finished her annulment (not even sure if she started it now to tell the truth). I was thinking no big deal, but now I hear warning bells going off.

I would be interested to know what amounts to adultery. I'm pretty sure that meeting for coffee is ok, and that fathering a child out with her is not ok, but where is the line in between?

In all honesty I will probably just brush this one off and move on, as there are many more fish in the Philippine Sea, but it would be nice to know the legal definitions, burden of proof and such anyone who unknowingly falls into this trap, perhaps after the fact.

By the way, anybody know if girls working in bars are required to be single? Could a random barfine in fact land you in jail over adultery?

Dragon Slayer
10-14-11, 01:53
guys,

adultery is simply defined as "ingaging in sexual relations with a married person. in our case it amounts to having sex with a filipina who is legally married, there is no divorce in the philippines and an anullment can take years. getting a married woman pregnant is the easiest way to prove adultery. there has to be proof under the law and what better proof is there than getting the woman pregnant! testimony of "witnesses" is not likely unless the woman is checked and dna tests can prove that you had sex with her.

many fillipinas lie about being married. one more thing to be aware of when seeking filipinas. as to the women in the clubs, i doubt very much if the owner knows whether or not the girls working there are married. in many of the clubs i visited, i got the impression that women were being hired to work there on a regular basis. requirements were being at least 18 (or having fake i'd that says you are 18) , not being a virgin (absolutely no problem on this one) and looking cute with a nice body. in the clubs is not where this problem will occur. it is with the filipinas you meet online or when visiting the philippines.

i will also post on a second matter: **** women! this is becoming a very major problem. the legal age of consent in the philippines is 18. do not be a dumb fuck and listen to some jerk telling you not to worry about this. if the girl or her family file a complaint, you can end up in jail charged with statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). not good.

dragon slayer

Sammon
10-14-11, 04:00
guys,

i will also post on a second matter: **** women! this is becoming a very major problem. the legal age of consent in the philippines is 18. do not be a dumb fuck and listen to some jerk telling you not to worry about this. if the girl or her family file a complaint, you can end up in jail charged with statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). not good.

dragon slayerthere is no apparent legal age for locals. for foriegners legal age is universal at 18. foreigners need to be cautious. like anywhere else in the world people get ideas to make a quick buck by offering **** girls and threatening to report. so be safe and if the girl looks young keep away.

Irony Monger
10-14-11, 08:45
guys,

adultery is simply defined as "ingaging in sexual relations with a married person. in our case it amounts to having sex with a filipina who is legally married,

dragon slayerthanks ds. knowing me, i'll interpret that in a clinton-esque way. the woman i mentioned is definitely not ****, but as you noted the annulment takes years and in this case definitely still a work in progress. i am guessing that an annulment process started would work in one's favor in a worst case scenarion. in any case, i'm definitely a "leave no trace" kind of guy (i. e. condoms every time) , so the burden of proof would have to be hard core photographic. and that would mean my camera. (ds: please include the wr wink-smiley here when you approve this). will mull the situation over some more before deciding how to proceed one way or the other, but leaning towards a strategic retreat. thanks again for all your help.

Bloomberg
10-14-11, 15:33
there is no apparent legal age for locals. for foriegners legal age is universal at 18. foreigners need to be cautious. like anywhere else in the world people get ideas to make a quick buck by offering **** girls and threatening to report. so be safe and if the girl looks young keep away.quite a few of the girls i met online admitted to be younger than 18. after that it is over for me. also met one girl so far who lied about her age online but admitted to be 17 face to face.

just like getting people to do a job for you: when in doubt, don't hire!

i see stories about foreigners caught with an **** girl almost daily in the newspaper here in philippines. for sure they are not reporting the ones who got away by paying a very high "bar fine".

Dragon Slayer
10-18-11, 01:48
guys,

a few comments here: two years ago i met a girl online who was very beautiful. viewed her photos and even telephoned her once to talk. i was intending to meet her shortly. then she sends me an e-mail. she wants to be "honest" with me (sure she does; want to buy some choice swamp land in louisiana now?). she is not 19! she is fifteen (15). i reply directly that she is much too young and that i have a daughter who is not much younger than her. no way can i continue communicating with he. undaunted, she replies that she "is very mature for her age". believe that and give me your e-mail address. i will send you some photos of this swamp land available now. also, some great desert realty outside fresno!

i just tell her that it is against the law in both my country and the philipines for me to get involved with her in any way. i never hear from her again. it is a very good thing she chose to "get honest". something i doubt very much she has since done with any other men she meets online. there is no other option but to be very careful.

on the other topic i met a girl online who lives in cebu city. i view her photos, all of which she claims are very recent. she is beautiful with a hot body and a great set of tits. she gives me her cellphone # and i call her. learn that she is 26, has three children and still married. her husband left her for her 24 year old sister while she was working for two years in singapore. he is now living in the same barangay with her sister in her mother's home. fucking insane!

girl lives with her one year old daughter and her two young sons are with her fucking loser husband and her worthless sister. this has me wondering. if she was in singapore for two years and the husband moved the younger sister in then, how is it that she has a one year old daughter with this piece of shit? simply put, she returned and was still with this guy inspite of his having an affair with her sister. and, of course, the guy is unemployed.

i dropped her like a "stinking cadaver" and moved on to "more fertile" and less torrid,"grounds". but i could not help laughing at the irony of this entire "soap opera" in cebu. many of us know of situations where a foreign man of substance ($$$$) meets a filipina and quickly ends up fucking a few of her grilfriends, cousins and ever her sisters. fuck, i did this years ago here in my own city, fucking a couple girlfriends of one filipina i was dating. at the time all the ladies were divorced from american husbands and anywhere from 5. 12 years older than me. i was in my 20s and had not yet made a trip to the philippines. so, i did not know of the "fertile grounds of beautiful, young pussy" that awaited me.

but in the instances with the filipinas, i am not aware of any stories about a married foreigner fucking the sister of her wife. and here it is the unemployed filipino boinking the younger sister of his wife who is gainfully employed. and ol mommy not only condones this, but provides a place for these scumbags to live! i was beginning to think i had not much more to learn about the activities of filipinas. reality is that i have just "scraped the tip of the iceberg.

dragon slayer

Hairy Wonder
10-18-11, 04:47
After reading the posts of those much more knowledgeable than I on the Philippines laws, I think that my idea of having a vasectomy is even better than I realized. I have been thinking about this for a few years (actually since I separated from my now ex-wife in 2005) , because I did not want to father anymore children than I already have. Well, my little brain overwhelmed my big brain when it came to having sexy, young Filipinas naked in my bed. Now, I am the proud father of 2 fil-am kids from 2 different Filipinas. Just as I thought I was about to be free of kids, with my legitimate teenagers about to finish high school, now I have 2 more to support for 16 years. I definitely don't want anymore kids running around looking like me (and probably nobody else does either). Since, as stated earlier, the main source of proof of adultery in the Philippines seems to be the resulting kids, I feel a vasectomy is a great idea. Of course, Iron Monger's idea of always using a condom is pretty good also.

Dragon Slayer
11-03-11, 02:16
Guys,

We all know condoms do a decent job of limiting our chances of getting STDs. I do not like to use them. For one, if any woman insists I weat a condom for a blowjob I point her to the door and say GO! I like to get blown for awhile and then fuck her a bit. Then back to getting blown and then back to fucking. Again, if the lady has a problem with this she can leave.

I had a beautiful 23 year old in Shenzhen China that I met onlind a few years back. We meet at the Huang Gong Border crossing from Hong Kong one afternoon after I flew in from Manila. We get to my Hotel and I begin to kiss her neck and chest. This has the Immediate, Desired Effect. She quickly pulls off her blouse, unhookds her bra and pulls down her jeans and panties. Naked in front of me she demands I use a condon. STDs she says in what little English she knows. I look but cannot find one in my bag. She yanks open all the numerous draws in the bathroom and returns with a condom in a little wrapper. Thankyou Chinese People for thinking of everything!

The condom feels a bit snug and trousersaurus rex is every bit the fierce reptile you would expect. However, one more factor will shortly come into play. As she began yanking off her clothes, I took the opportunity to down a 50mg viagra pill. Wanted to be as big and thick and hard as possible for this tiny, cute Chinese nymph. She had what I term the "hidden huge tits" quality. In her blouse she appeared to be just a typical 34 a cup lady. However, unleashed, those puppies were, in reality, huge, lovely, delectable 36 C cup kaboonkers. I wanted to get the most out of this.

She takes my now, rock hard cock and sticks it inside her love box. She begins riding me like a rodeo champion! Yells out OIH! OIH! OHHHHH OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Yahhhhhh! AHHHHHH! And more AHHHHHH and still more OIHHHHHH. My dick is holding on for dear life as she is going crazy. Oblivious to my existence, it is my huge, swollen cock that she wants. I could drop dead that moment but as long as my cock was big, fat and throbing inside her pussy hole, she was more than a little satisfied.

My cock jumped out once and she stopped moving, grabbed the "naughty boy" and stuck in back inside her faster than you could say "Horny China Doll"! The inevitable happened. I felt the tearing of latex as my cock pulled a "superman" and broke through into the wet, throbbing "lovehole". It was tight and warm and soaken wet. I just laid back as she kept screaming and fucking, oblivious to the cock now as bareback as "Annie Oakley" in an old Western Show. She kept screamming out and I just let loose with a pourful load of cum, deep inside her tight hole. She keeps riding until T Rex goes limp and I lay there exhausted. This entire episode took a good hour.

Seeing my cum soaked cock head and the sperm leaking out of her now dripping hole, she races into shower. Spends fifteen minutes hosing out the "pipeline" like a "Gulf Oil Driller" cleaning out the pipes at the end of loading a huge Ocean Tanker Vessel. When she returns. She looks as beautiful as ever but a little dismayed that she has become a "Sperm Bank". I say nothing as 1) I am a "Man in Bliss".2) I do not wish to get her going at me for pulling the "superman" stunt with the condon and 3) I am much too exhausted to talk.

We go to dinner and afterwards, she departs for home. I drink a bottle of Rose Champagne in the room to celebrate the Experience. Life is Good!

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
07-05-13, 06:57
Guys,

Living in the Phlippines requ9ires a lot of patience. I have a home on the ocean i9n Leyte and I enjoy it but get bored quickly. I like City life.

Virtually few if any of the regular Filipinos speak English above the first grade level. In a conversation with a bellboy in Cebu at the Elizabeth Hotel I was relating a recent experience travelling from Manila to Cebu. I went through four (4) sentences of conversation. I mentioned my plane (airplane) in the last sentence. He interrupted me to ask,"you check out today sir". He had no fucking clue as to what I was saying. He heard plane and assumed it had to mean I was leaving on a plane "today". In replied,"what are you talking about? I am not leaving for several days yet. Did you understand anything that I just said to you"? He gave me a blank stare and a smile. I then said,"you do not understand english at all do you"? He replied,"sorry I speak English only litten". SAD!

Today, I call the Operator at my hotel, Park Inn, in Davao. I ask for the Cebu City phone number of Delta Airlines. She replies,"very good, I will get you the telephone # of Philippine Airlines in Cebu City". I say,"NO! I need the phone # of DELTA (I spell it out) Airlines in Cebu City". Her reply is,"yes sir, I will get you the telephone # of Philippine Airlines in Cebu City". I hang up. In my bag I locate the card for the Manager in Cebu of Delta Airlines.

Dragon Slayer

LexLuther
07-05-13, 08:53
Guys,

Living in the Phlippines requ9ires a lot of patience. I have a home on the ocean i9n Leyte and I enjoy it but get bored quickly. I like City life.

Virtually few if any of the regular Filipinos speak English above the first grade level. In a conversation with a bellboy in Cebu at the Elizabeth Hotel I was relating a recent experience travelling from Manila to Cebu. I went through four (4) sentences of conversation. I mentioned my plane (airplane) in the last sentence. He interrupted me to ask,"you check out today sir". He had no fucking clue as to what I was saying. He heard plane and assumed it had to mean I was leaving on a plane "today". In replied,"what are you talking about? I am not leaving for several days yet. Did you understand anything that I just said to you"? He gave me a blank stare and a smile. I then said,"you do not understand english at all do you"? He replied,"sorry I speak English only litten". SAD!

Today, I call the Operator at my hotel, Park Inn, in Davao. I ask for the Cebu City phone number of Delta Airlines. She replies,"very good, I will get you the telephone # of Philippine Airlines in Cebu City". I say,"NO! I need the phone # of DELTA (I spell it out) Airlines in Cebu City". Her reply is,"yes sir, I will get you the telephone # of Philippine Airlines in Cebu City". I hang up. In my bag I locate the card for the Manager in Cebu of Delta Airlines.

Dragon SlayerDragon Slayer,

I hope you don't mnd a differeing opinion. When the bellboy at the Elizabeth Hotel in Cebu said he only spoke a little English, he was being gracious. I am constantly amazed at how well many Pinoys and Pinays speak English. But that doesn't mean they always understand what I say to them and it doesn't mean I always understand what they say to me the first time.

The first time I met my gf, she was shy to speak with me. She said she didn't speak English very well. But as it turned out, she has an amazing knowledge of the language and a huge vocabulary which constantly astounds me. But we don't always understand each other, especially not the first time. The problem with Philippino people speaking English is the same problem you encounter when you speak in English to a Vietnames, a Chinese, or really anyone for whom English is not their first language. And when I say that, I mean a person for whom American English is not their first language. So it can take a while for me and a Brit to understand each other.

Here's the explanation of the problem. Let's take a Vietnamese for example. In Vietnamese, there are a set number of phonemes in their language. A phoneme is the smallest contrastive unit in the sound system of a language. The set of phonemes available to a native speaker of Vietnamese is different than the set of phonemes available to a native speaker of American English. So when a Vietnamese person has to learn American English as a second language, what he does is to fall back on the set of phonemes with which he is familiar in order to attempt (not always successfully) the phonemes that he thinks he is hearing in American English. So when he speaks American English using the set of phonemes that is familiar and English to him, it is going to be difficult for you to understand him and it is going to be difficult for him to understand you.

The same is true in speaking with Philippino people. They will pronounce the vowels (a, e, I, o, you) differently than you do. They are also going to have trouble with the fact that in American English, as in British English, there is a lot of irregularity not only in the structure of English but also in the pronounciation of vowels and (to a lesser degree) consonants. This does not occur in many (if not most) other languages. So most foreigners who did not learn English as children will have trouble with the fact that the letter "o" is pronounced differently in the words "hot" and "broke". They will try to resolve this by replacing the two different phonemes which we generate from this one letter with one phoneme which is familiar to them in both cases. As a result, they may pronounce both words as though the phoneme were the one that we generate when we see "o" on "brock".

Or in another vein, to a Philippino the consonant "are" is always rolled. This is something that must be decoded by us as Americans (I assume you are American) as they must constantly decode what we say.

I hope this helps. And I urge you to be a bit more generous in judging Philippino people when they speak English and when they try to understand spoken English.

LexLuther

BionicMan
07-05-13, 08:57
Guys, I just tell her that it IS AGAINST THE LAW IN BOTH my country and the Philipines for me to get involved with her in any way. I never hear from her again. It is a very good thing she chose to "get honest". Something I doubt very much she has since done with any other men she meets online. There is no other option but to be VERY CAREFUL.

Dragon SlayerVery well and wisely managed. Was just wondering if she was not honest. It is a fact a lot of Asian, by body, can look younger than what they are in reality. But behave, right or not, like older girls. I mean, it is normal in Philippines for a 15yo girls with a more mature man, and I assume on possible intimate encounters,.and this is misleading: a westerner girl at that age, for education and DNA, would not engage. Normally. In such chats. So the question is: would you have been able to detect such a young age when meeting her in real? Would you have been concerned to check her age when seeing her, when other 22yo girls might look 17? Or 17 looking 22?

And here "you" is not only Dragon Slayer, but anybody of us.

I don't even take into account a possible (for sure not the specific case) of a police scam to clamp unwilling potential minor chasers. There are many, we know and they do not deserve justifications.

But I feel so time some guys get into shit by just not being careful enough and underestimating some dangers. Maybe drawn by little head liking the young, but certainly not looking for the minors.

There is often a very thin line between legitimate and against the law.

As a principle, in many cases, I stay away from the borderlines and play safer with those where no doubt can come out. Doesn't mean ugly old ladies, of course. But a 25yo looking will never look and will never be 15. Add the experience factor, BTW, which is better with a not very young girl. I think the perverts aiming to the very young, on the other hand, don't care about performance and experience. Their game is another one. Shame on them.

FreebieFan
07-05-13, 09:25
guys,

he is now living in the same barangay with her sister in her mother's home. fucking insane!

girl lives with her one year old daughter and her two young sons are with her fucking loser husband and her worthless sister. this has me wondering. if she was in singapore for two years and the husband moved the younger sister in then, how is it that she has a one year old daughter with this piece of shit? simply put, she returned and was still with this guy inspite of his having an affair with her sister. and, of course, the guy is unemployed.

but in the instances with the filipinas, i am not aware of any stories about a married foreigner fucking the sister of her wife. and here it is the unemployed filipino boinking the younger sister of his wife who is gainfully employed. and ol mommy not only condones this, but provides a place for these scumbags to live! i was beginning to think i had not much more to learn about the activities of filipinas. reality is that i have just "scraped the tip of the iceberg.

dragon slayerand still these people listen to catholic priests because they are the moral compass. what a sad joke.

there is a law in the philippines that concerns adultery and is successfully used against foreigners to basically extort money, and yet the low life you described will never get hit with such a law.

the law of course was promoted in its promulgation by the good ol church as the dimwit priests figured " hey if we promote a law against adultery then no one will ever be adulterous, right ". shows what happens when you let the paedophilic priests shape public opinion.

Hairy Wonder
10-15-13, 01:34
Dragon (and everyone else) ,

I haven't been posting on here for a long time, just lurking around, because I have been stuck in sex prison (good old USA) since early 2010. But I just now read Dragon's account of the bellhop and the telephone operator that could not understand what he was saying. I just felt compelled to post my own reply.

As far as international travel goes, mine has been a bit limited, but still more than the average American I would think. I traveled to Germany and lived with a German family for a few months when I was a teenager (God! That's a lifetime ago!). I lived, thanks to my military time, in Korea for 11+ years. I also met and married my second wife (now divorced) there, and made the mistake of not only bringing her to the states, but also putting up with her for 21 years. After separating from her during our last stay in Korea, I found the wondrous pleasure that is known as Filipinas. I escorted one back to the Philippines when her contract ended in Korea. (Yes, she was working at a bar there.) Of course, at my expense, we traveled to Hong Kong first to see her sister (also working at a bar, go figure). And I then made several trips to paradise until I was forced to move back to prison because of some inane law restricting US government employees from being overseas for more than 5 years.

Anyhow, the reason for telling you about my foreign experiences is to show that I do have some knowledge of dealing with people that do not speak English as their native language. In Germany, from what little I can recall, it was not a big problem, as their school curriculum requires them (or it did at that time) to study English. Korea has the same requirement, but I never felt that they pushed it as hard as the Germans. Most adult Koreans could not utter anything more difficult than "Hello. My name is." Even though my ex-wife was attending classes at an "English Institute" when I met her, I'm glad I also learned to speak Korean. After bringing her to the states, it came in very handy. There were many instances where we would have had a lot of problems if I had not been able to explain things to her in her own language. When I traveled to the Philippines, I also noticed that many Filipinas (and the guys) could not (or would not) speak English. So I took it upon myself to try to learn Tagalog. I can't say that I am fluent with it, but the little bit that I do know has helped when I was there.

Thanks to my military time, and now working for the Army, I have lived in many areas of the United States as well. While driving through Louisiana one time, a local at a gas station attempted to strike up a conversation with me. And I honestly can't say that I understood more than 2 or 3 words of what he said. Now, I live in the great state. Uh, er. Well, I'll just say Kentucky. I was raised about 250 miles north of here, and there are many locals that I have not been able to understand in the 3 years that I have been here. And one of them, I meet and attempt to talk with on almost a weekly basis. My point here, is that we are all speaking English, and I still can't understand some people from these different areas.

Based on all of my long-winded discussion here, I would say that it should be easy to understand why anyone that is not a native American English speaker would have trouble with our language. While living in Korea, I heard many Americans complain about the lack of English speaking Koreans. My advice to them, and to anyone going into any country outside of the United States, is learn the language of the country you are going into. It's great if the locals can speak to us in our language. But, are we really that lazy that we expect them to be fluent in English when we can't speak their language? This is just my opinion.

H. W.

Dragon Slayer
01-02-15, 22:31
Guys,

An experience I had in Ormoc, Leyte two years ago in February. I am riding the Supercat boat to Cebu City. She accompanies me to the boat as in the past. At the entrance a tiny man, a porter who laods and unloads freight and baggage is there. He literally is not more than 5'0" tall and weighing 40 kgs (seriously). His age is hard to determine given the horrible ridges and wrinkles and pockmocks in the skin of his face from years of smoking, drugs, sun light and cheap whiskey. I guess he was about 45-48.

This little man begins to rip into my Lady in vasayan. He is going much too fast for me but I look at her and she has a look of terror on her beautiful face. I begin to "lose it". I get a grip and say to myself, "Slayer do NOT kill this monkey". I decide to speak to him "very politely" in English. I know he understands Porter as they are called this. So I begin at the absolute loudest I can and "kindly" say, "Porter, you useless fucking piece of shit! You dare speak to my woman like this! I will pick your fucking ugly, useless body up and too you into the ocean".

At the first "fucking piece of shit", I was yelling to the air. The guy ran off so fast he should be trying out for the US 100 m Team. No idea where he went but NOT ANOTHER FUCKING PORTER CAME TO TAKE HIS PLACE. I look around, hands clenched, face drawn, in a martail arts stance like I was fighting a match in my youth. No one says a thing and not a single passenger waiting to board even looks at me. I hear the Captain, elegantly dressed say, "Sir the Business Class section is here. Please board this way". The passengers made a path for me to board the boat and I got up and kissed Baby and Mommy goodbye. Walked past the Ship's Officers and boarded. I had a BC ticket but no one checked to verify this. Never say the little cock sucker again.

I do NOT comprehend why he went into a rage at my Lady for seeing me off, baby in her arms. And why the fuck would he think I would simply stand there and allow him to do this? I get along quite good with Filipinos and taxi drivers are usually the only ones I have occasional trouble with when they try the "Sir you are a rich man. You must pay more" bullshit.

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
02-08-15, 01:16
Guys,

I recently got robbed online by a Filipina I met on a website. Here is how it happened:

I am online in yahoo messenger with the Mother of my Daughter, age 16. I am sending her the code for the weekly allowance they get. I have to send it weekly because she cannot control her spending. Whatever I send, it will be gone in a few days so I must do it every week.

I am giving her the Amount and the code to pick up the money. I stopped many years ago using western union as they are way too expensive. Out of nowhere a girl pops up and IMs me. She is one I just met who says she is in General Santos, 3 hour bus ride from Davao City. I do not realize it at first but the code and amount in pesos was intercepted by her I'm. I notice this but the Name is that of my daughter's Mother. I think it is SAFE as you need a photo I'd to pick up the money. I inform this girl that the money is for my daughter.

A couple days later I get a call from my Woman. She never got the money as it was unavailable. I check and the money was picked up a few hours after I sent it. The little tramp in General Santos stole the money. SHe had the Amount and the Reference #. She must have come up with a phony I'd in the Name of my daughter's Mother. Or she had a Friend working at the Cebuano Lhuillier Office and she bribed her to give her the Money.

This *unt had the audacity to even come online and say Hello, to me the next day. I think she was checking to see if I realized she stole the money. I tell her I will visit Davao soon and I can ride in a private car to meet her in GS. I ask her full Name so I will be able to ask her Barangay Captain where she lives. I get al this and then I rip into the Fucking Thief telling the little *unt how I will have her arrested. I let her know my prior employment here in the US and how I will pay whatever the cost to have her arrested and sent to jail.

Of course she denies everything. BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM HER AGAIN. I will look for her in Facebook and online in the internet and then make further inquiries. I just want all of you to be aware of hos fucking dishonest some of these Filipinas are and how cunning they are. Got the money and a fake I'd in a matter of hours. IMPRESSIVE.

Dragon SLayer.

Radical Guy
02-08-15, 02:42
Guys,

I recently got robbed online by a Filipina I met on a website. SNIP... I just want all of you to be aware of hos fucking dishonest some of these Filipinas are and how cunning they are. Got the money and a fake I'd in a matter of hours. IMPRESSIVE.

Dragon SLayer.Wow, DS, a dishonest Filipina? Surely you jest! Whoever heard of such a thing? LOL.

Eric Tile
02-08-15, 04:39
DS, thankyou for sharing this information with us. Pity the Mother is incapable of responsible budgeting. However I am familiar with this character flaw requiring you to remit weekly. What a pain!

You are very experienced but got caught by this thief. What chance do those less experienced have. I don't really understand how the thief achieved her theft. How can you avoid this happening again? Regards, ET.

Dragon Slayer
02-08-15, 12:40
Guys,

I have been impressed a few times with how cunning some of these women can be. I had a cam girl contacting me and I told her I could not send her money as I needed to transfer into the Account that I use to wire the money additional funds. This was true but I should have just told her straight out that I was not interested in her putting on a show for me. She gave me several ways of wiring the money to her that I have never heard of. I know of Western Union (expensive), Xoom (cheap but unreliable), Xooom (never tried it) and MoneyGram which I use and get to send very inexpensively and reliably. Putting money into bank accounts does NOT work for two of the Mothers' of my children as they both simply clean out the Account each time, creating a additional bank charge of P150 per month. I DO still have Bank Accounts for two of the Mothers who are more responsible.

I have learned that you need to stay in a Hotel which provides In Room Safes where you can safely keep your money. You also need to hide, out of sight, your cellphone whenever you have a new Filipina come by to see you. She may steal it and she may also transfer your Account Balance to her phone or, as one girl did back in 2004 in Cebu, transfer all phone #s in my phone to her phone. She then messaged all of them informing them of her and that she was my fiance. Girl always struck me as beautiful but not too bright (great fuck). Obviously she had some smarts and not much in the way of honesty or ethics. And NO, I did not EVER tell her I would marry her or that I wanted a serious relationship with her. She was lovely and a fantastic fuck who liked getting fucked in her ass.

You can NEVER permit a Filipina you do not know to use your computer. She will most likely go into your photos and mail and document storage. I do allow my two young sons to play and view "Angry Bird" on my laptop and let Mommy check her mail and Facebook. But they are part of my Family.

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
02-13-15, 23:07
Guys,

Valentine's Day IS a huge celebration in the Philippines. Everyone gets with friends or a Lover or their wife / husband and goes out to dinner. Flowers and chocolates are bought for ladies. All restaurants are fully booked and the fine dining restaurants put on quite a program. I have celebrated this Day twice in the Philippines. It is a lot of fun. This year I am back working and do not have to be too concerned about this. So ican relax. Just make sure the little Mothers of my children are able to celebrate with my children.

Only other Asian country that I noticed this Day being celebrated was in Hong Kong. It is very common to get a room in a nice hotel and dine in the Hotel restaurant and celebrate the Evening. I thought a few times about arranging to go to HK for Valentine's Day.

Making money is my priority now. I will visit the Philippines in early Spring. I hope that all the guys now in the Philippines DO get out and celebrate with a beautiful Filipina.

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
04-04-15, 01:33
Guys,

Yesterday I read a news item about an ex marine here in the USA. He was married to a young Chinese woman from Dalian. They got divorced and the cost of this was unbelievably expensive. Then, he allows this DEMON to take their five year old Son, whom he had been granted custody, back to China for a short Trip. Of Course, she stays in China with the boy. He has spent all his savings trying to get his Son back.

He is now requesting donations to assist him in this endeavor. I, personally, do not think he has much chance. SHe has the boy with her Family in China. I think his only option is to take the boy via a kidnapping similar to what the young black woman did whose Korean ex-husband stole their Son and took him to South Korea.

How he could be so fucking naieve is something else. I hav e dated enough Chinese women to know that what they say to You and what they Do are often completely different. I get totally offended whenever someone in our Group is rude enough to carry on a conversation in another language in front of me. Normally, I simply get up and leave. Put down whatever I think my part of the bill may be and depart. This has happened a few times NOW at Bon Appetit French Restaurant in Davao City. Has me considering skipping this Place on my upcoming Trip.

With the Chinese you have to expect that they will talk in Mandarin in front of you ALL THE FUCKING TIME! When dating / fucking a pretty Chinese girl some years ago we would go to a Restaurant owned by friends of hers and sit and eat and then talk with the owners. This ended when I found out from her how the puny Owner was asking her if I would repay her the $ 10 I had borrowed one night to cover our bill. Why I would need $10, I do not recall. Place must not have accepted credit cards and I was out of cash, something which DOES NOT happen. I never returned to that Restaurant and I soon stopped seeing the China girl. She was missing tits anyway, something I hate.

I am uncertain if a Filipina taking your baby back to the Philippines would have the same results as with the marine and his Son now in China. I doubt it. Still, it is always best to keep your children with you. In Asia, the woman's Parents exert a very strong influence on their daughter, no matter what her age. If they become enamored with the Baby, they may compel to keep the child in the Philippines.

Dragon Slayer.

Ikksman
04-04-15, 03:31
Guys,
Yesterday I read a news item about an ex marine here in the USA. He was married to a young Chinese woman from Dalian. They got divorced and the cost of this was unbelievably expensive. Then, he allows this DEMON to take their five year old Son, whom he had been granted custody, back to China for a short Trip. Of Course, she stays in China with the boy. He has spent all his savings trying to get his Son back.
{S N I P}
Dragon Slayer.The guy was certainly naive, especially after an American court decided that the mother did not deserve custody. I reckon the guy has a snowball's chance in hell of getting his kid back through the Chinese 'legal' system.

Actually I feel sorry for the son. He is old enough to remember and miss his father. He will have a difficult time growing up in China as a 'half caste' (typical Chinese racial prejudice). And he will have a miserable time with not one, but two "Tiger moms". He would have been far better off with a Filipina mother who would genuinely welcome the kid as part of the family.

Ikksman.

Dragon Slayer
07-26-15, 00:53
Guys,

One of the many things I have gained knowledge of through years of visiting the Philippines is that Filipino men get laid a lot. Yes, it helps if they are from wealthy Families in that then they can fuck women who are also from wealthy Families. But the average, run of the mill Filipino with a regular job and a college degree or simply a high school diploma, gets far more than his share of hot, young pussy.

I just viewed a group of photos on my Facebook from a Filipina. She had the photos of her Company outing to some resort there. It shows a dozen, young Filipinas in a swimming pool with 2-3 men in the photos. Some photos have one guy and half a dozen girls in bikinis. I wonder how many times each girl got fucked during this weekend outing and by how many of the men. My guess is that 80% of the women fucked at least one of the Filipinos and 30% fucked 2 or more of them.

Filipinas, with the mix of latin and Asian ancestry are VERY HORNY WOMEN. Back when Wolfgang was GM of the ApoView Hotel, he related how earlier that day as he was walking along the corridor of the second floor landing in the Hotel, he came upon a young guy and girl, both hotel trainees, fucking on one of the couches there. A Hotel Guest could come by and witness the same thing at any moment. Yet, here they were fucking away right there in the corridor like monkeys in the wild. No thought to how difficult it is to land employment in a decent, upscale Hotel, they were horny and went at it.

In the CDO Board here I posted how I met Melody's young, beautiful sisters back in 2010. I was to later here how both the 18 and 19 year old were each pregnant by Filipino buys who left as soon as they found out the ladies were pregnant. Both girls were beautiful and had great bodies. They were also attending College at the time. Now they are unwed mothers living in the cramped, squalid place I visited five years ago. And the 16 year old sister who had a miscarriage back then was pregnant by a new Filipino guy (1st ran off after getting her pregnant) and still 16.

These Filipinas are a very horny lot! The big titted 19 year old in Cebu that I was fucking in 2012-2013 once related how her cousins, aged 16-21, would fuck guys under trees at night or walk to the road and enter the back of a parked car that was unlocked. Imagine a guy returning to his car, getting in and driving off. While driving he hears loud moaning and heavy breathing coming from the back seat. He turns to see a young couple fucking away. Does he keep on driving or does he stop, remove the guy and take over fucking the girl?

We foreigners have the disadvantage of not being from the Philippines and being much older than the women we want to fuck. We can only capitalize on our assets: money, ability to offer them a better life, more responsible behavior (average Filipino guy cannot even spell responsibility, let alone tell you what it means) and generousity.

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
10-22-15, 01:24
Guys,

Just this past week I was talking with my Pal, goodEnough by phone from the West Coast of the USA. He enlightened me of the fact that he was informed that my ENEMY, Coolerbrew, aka "Jellyfish", had moved to Cebu Island Permanently. I FUCKING HATE THIS RED NECK PIECE OF SHIT!

Obviously, Jellyfish still texts GoodEnough. GE told me he is in some remote part of the Province, where, I bet, it is very cheap to live, Providing, you live like a poor Filipino. GE, assured me, "I do not think you will ever run into him in Cebu City". Most likely this IS TRUE. Jellyfish is not very intelligent. He is too fucking stupid to avoid me, BUT he lives on retirement. One of the many decent things I did for this "Piece of Shit" BEFORE he fucked me over with my then Love, "Jen" was to advise him NOT to start taking Social Security here in the USA at age 62 1/2.

Jellyfish, an uneducated redneck, of course, did not listen to my advice. He is today living on a fixed income about what I spend each month on fine wines and champagne. Or what my daughter spends on dresses, cosmetics and CDS / DVDs.

For newcomers to my Board, Jellyfish is a World Class Lurker. He has NEVER posted in ISG. He read my Posts back in 2008/2009 and sent me a PM. Back then I trusted ISG Members, even lurkers. I befriended this Scumbag and had him at my Son Conor's Baptism and Reception held at Crossroads in May 2010. I even tried to set this ugly turd up with women. It was a hopeless task! Too nerdy, too ugly and too fucking shy to ever meet any decent woman, Jellyfish ended up with the Old Hag, Marybeth. She was an ugly Filipina in her 40's with two children from two (2) different Filipino losers. Broke and living with Family, an old Idiot like Jelly was "Ripe for the Picking".

Jellfish takes Jen and myself to ol Marybeth's idea of Find Dining, the "Lighthouse" in Cebu. It was my first and ONLY time ever dining there. I hated the food and the "Three Blind Mice" singing on stage in tagalog. Reminded me of Shakespear's famous tragedy, "Hamlet". In it Iago pays the band to stop playing as the music is so horrible as to ruin the party. This was, of course, one of Shakespear's many means to please the "Pit" (area of the theatre where the cheap seats were for scuzzbals who had the habit of tossing rotten fruit at the Actors should the Play become boring).

I had joking commented as to if the fellows would stop playing if I handed them each P 1,000. Old Marybeth sent me a cold stare from her ugly face and, in vasayan, made offensive comments to Jen about me. I took Marybeth and Jellyfish to dinner the following evening at "Olio's" at Crossroads. This IS a magnificent, fine dining place, white linen table tops, candlelight, soft music and magnificent continental cuisine. I was paying so why the fuck did old hag Marybeth spend the night complaining to my Jen: "why are the lights so dim?" "Why do we have three men serving us?" Why don't they serve Filipino food?" She went on and on. Jellyfish was used to being an abused husband from his former marriage to an old hag white woman in Ohio, USA. He told me his entire life story (bored the shit out of me).

Marybeth was, on a 1-10 a solid 3! Jellyfish himself was no Brad Pitt or Vin Diesel. But, still, if he wanted a mean, ugly forty something demon, there WERE AND STILL ARE millions of them in the USA. Why travel across the world for one? Jen, on a 1-10 was a solid 9. 5 in looks and a 9. 0 in body. Beautiful does not begin to describe her. She was my woman for over four years then. If I was going to fuck it up, I DID NOT NEED JELLYFISH (COOLERBREW) to do it for me. I had befriended this lowlife, someone I would never, ever meet here in the USA, even if he lived in my City or I was in his town in Ohio.

But Jellyfish had to do it. He informed Jen one night in Cebu of all the other women he and old hag Marybeth had seen me with when I was kind enough to invite this redneck scumbag to a Party or Celebration. Jen was VERY VERY UPSET. She informed me of it when Jellyfish was away. She feared I may B_ the Fucking_ of this puny, old fat guy.

I posted on this here and I held nothing back. GoodEnough contacted Jelly and Jelly did NOT deny any of what he or Marybeth (Old Hag) had said to Jen. I approached Jellyfish when he was again in Cebu. Fifteen years older than me (maybe more), 8 inches shorter than me and 80 pounds lighter, it was a JOKE. Jelly has a speech impediment and stutters, especially when nervous. With me standing in front of him, he did a lot of stuttering. He replied to my accusations: "wall you uh uh duh, you have a lot of women. Duh uh uh, that ain't right duh duh". He stodd there trying to act normal, well as normal as a Jellyfish can act. He WAS SHAKING MORE THAN AN OLD OAK TREE DURING A TYPHOON! Seeing his tiny frame and beer belly, he looked pathetic. I just could NOT bring myself to give the bum the beating he deserved. I simply told him to avoid me for the balance of my like!

I mentioned what Jellyfish told me to GoodEnough. GE replied, "that guy heads directly to Angeles City from the Airport as soon as he arrives in Manila, so he can fuck as many *hores as his little dick can handle"! But Jelyfish sees nothing wrong with what he does. His warped mind thinks it IS okay to fuck prostitutes as long as you DO NOT fuck more than one normal, regular lady.

Shortly after this, Jen left me! I HOLD JELLYFISH PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE. My daughter's Uncle (eldest brother of her Mother) was recently made Chief of Police in a major City in the Philippines. He likes me and he likes even more the bottles of Hennessey and Remy Martin XO I give him. I will mention old Jellyfish to him and ask him to pass the info on the Chiefs of Police in certain towns and Cities in Cebu. Ol jelly gets picked up for so much as a parking ticket he will do jail time and be deported. Fuck, I wonder what it will take to have Jelly deported just on the fact that I hate his guts?

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
11-12-15, 22:55
Guys,

I DO my best posting when I am in a good Mood. And today I am in a very good mood. Has to do with my eldest Son and making contact with his Mother for the first time in a very long time. Of course, she needed my money as my Son became ill and she was "hurting (as in broke) for money". What is her income working on Staff in a Hospital in Saudi Arabia (The Sand Box), I have no fucking idea. For me, in my early 20's while attending Graduate School, ArAramco was seeking men in my Profession, especially of my age (young, energetic, no dependents and stupid enough to take such an assignment in the Sand Box). Even then, as dumb and naieve as I was, I was intelligent enough to PASS on this one. I regret a lot of things in Life, BUT I do NOT regret passing that opportunity. And the Salary offered was 2. 5 times more than what I initially started at when re-entering the work force. Plus 30 days paid vacation and a ton of Holidays. Of course they were desperate.

But this Filipina wanted to "Show Me" by again leaving my eldest Son with her fat, unemployed sister, her worthless brother and her fat, old Mother. No phone # for me to contact them but I used my skills to find where they lived. But I sent her a lot of money this morning with no conditions. The stupid *unt was willing to do without the money rather than allow me to see my Son. But I "rose above" it and sent the money as it was meant for my Son who was hospitalized.

In any Event I feel good NOW. I return to the Philippines soon. Ol Jellyfish had best stay in hiding in his shack in the Cebu Province. I will ask my Daughter's Uncle, eldest brother of her, Mother to check up on him. He is Chief of Police in a major City in the Philippines. I will simply tell him the truth, JELLYFISH IS A SCUMBAG!

In any event I will be in Makati, Cebu and Davao. No idea how long yet at any location. I want to determine this later. Nothing is happening at any of these cities so rooms are plentiful and reasonable. I will skip celebrating US Thanksgiving as it would mean going to an Ex-pat hangout. I like to avoid this.

Dragon Slayer.