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Dragon Slayer
01-01-07, 02:00
Thread Starter.

Dragon Slayer
04-11-07, 02:16
Pals,

I often get asked one question: "how do you meet all these gorgeous women?" The answer is simple. I work at it. You can do it also.

Here is what I do that works for me. You do not have to pay attention. If you have a method which works, then keep at it. If you are always paying for Pros (nothing wrong with this) and would like the company of regular ladies; or you find yourself spending many lonely nights in Manila, Cebu or Davao, you may want to try my approach.

1. I believe that "appearance is everything". First impressions do matter and they are made within seven seconds after the person notices you. Second impressions can alter the "first impression" but it is much easier to start on a high note and continue upward. I always dress nice when I go out seeking pussy. This means a long sleeve 100% cotton dress or casual shirt, a nice pair of jeans or dress pants (no shorts) and black dress shoes and black socks. Leave the sneakers and white socks for the gym or basketball court.

2. I mentally force myself NOT to be shy. I approach women I see on the street or in a cafe. I smile, introduce myself and give it my best at being friendly. If the lady is clearly uninterested, I move on. Wasting time with a woman who is clearly not interested is the biggest mistake we make. In this approach the thing I like is that I am doing the picking. Like with my Jen, I noticed a "drop dead gorgeous lady and politely approached her, smiled, asked her name and complimented her on her beauty.

I waited a brief period and approached her for her cellphone number. Got it and promised to call her. When I did call, I invited her over to my Room at the Marco Polo. She told me she would "think about it". I informed her that I would leave Davao the following day (big lie) if she did not come over. This way I would hear from her in the next 24 hours or not at all. I would then know if I had to move on to another lady. As it turned out, I heard from her hours later informing me she would come over the following evening by 7:00PM. She arrived promptly at 7:00PM. I fucked her for the first time at 7:15 PM and was doing her a second time at 8:M0Pm when GE called asking if we were ready to join them for dinner. I told him I was "deep into something at the time" but would meet them at the Restaurant by 9:30PM.

3) This one really helps. Plan Ahead. Get on the internet and in chat rooms for the Philippines and meet young ladies from the cities you plan to visit. Have a webcam so they can see you. Get them to go on webcam also. Compliment them on their beauty and inform them of how anxious you are to be with her in a few short weeks. Get the cellphone number and call a few times before departing on your Trip. Do NOT tell them the exact date of your arrival or what Hotel you will be staying at unless you are certain she is the only lady you want to meet. Politely get her to promise to come alone to meet you but do not go balistic if she brings a couple friends or even mother.

I will post shortly about the girl I met last January 2007 who came with her 20 y/o cousin and 38 y/o auntie, both very beautiful. I entertained them all for hours in the livingroom of my Suite. Then the two left and the beautiful, 20 y/o Sarah stayed behind. I had her nude within ten minutes, sucking on her lovely tits as she held my dick. Then. holding my dick in her hand, she took it in her mouth and sucked on the head of my dick as I had a hand on her tit. When I was ready to cum, I gently pushed her head down so she engulfed my cock as I shot a load of cum into her mouth.

After drinking it all down, she smiled at me and proudly stated, "I drank all your gism honey". I replied, "yes you did". I was tempted to give her a "high five" just like duirng a ball game when I passed off to a teammate and he made a fast score on the basket.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
04-18-07, 18:00
Guys,

I will spend the first few nights in manila with my Jen and then head down to Davao alone to look into some possible business ventures and the home purchase. I also have a few ladies to see in the Mindanao and I may take a "road trip" to General Santos City and Cagayan De Oro.

Dragon Slayer

Redman69
06-14-07, 22:30
Dragon Slayer,

I thank you for all the time you put into these reports. I am 52 and have two half philipina daughters living in the states. My x came from Cabadabaran, Agusan Del Norte, We were maried in Cebu. I hope I live long enough to do what you are doing. And it seems real easy to entertain your vistitng son. You are lucky. I will continue to read your stuff.

Just wanted to say thanks.

Red

Dragon Slayer
06-16-07, 03:07
Thanks for the nice words. You have a ton of years to go. My Father died recently at 89. He was doing pretty good up until the last 1 1/2 years. Noteworthy is the fact that he was a very heavy drinker until age 74. Once he retired from US Law Enforcement he began to drink constantly, I guess out of boredom. One of many reasons I will not retire. But another noteworthy point that at the age he died he was earning $90,000/yr.

I do not intend to ever retire. I see what it does to many expats I run into. My young son is too big and too strong at just over a year. When at the mall a few weeks ago in Cebu he did a fast disappearing act when we stopped to have coffee with Cooler Brew from the Board. I had to get up, but Cooler Brew was even quicker. His mother found him in seconds but he was fast.

I am looking to buy a home in the Philippines so I have a place of my own here. When my reservation was messed up last Dec 31 at Casa Leticia it ad me thinking about this even more. I cannot count the number of times I had to scramble for a Hotel due to a Convention, Fiesta or whatever. Having your own place is not only a good investment but eliminates all this worry.

Dragon Slayer

Lookin
06-26-07, 18:33
As a new member I have eagerly read many. Would love to contribute a report of my own about the Phillipines some day. Have never been there but am looking forward to a trip. Just wondering? How accepting are "good looking" young bar girls to older men? I am 61 but could pass for 55. Of course willing to pay. Hope I didn't miss something about this subject in earlier forum discussions. If so my apology's.

Lookin

Dragon Slayer
06-27-07, 01:10
Lookin,

Did you get a moment to read my recent Post in Davao here about the guy in Henny's De Bonte Koe Restaurant last May 5? As I mentioned he was also staying at the Marco Polo Hotel with his girlfriend. I would guess his age at 72 (give or take 10 years depending on the booze, smoking, drugs, etc). She could not have been more than 21, and was a gorgeous 21!. No pro either.

The pros DO NOT CARE if you are 30 or 80. Anyone who thinks otherwise, call me. I am unloading some "family heirlooms" from my Dad;s Estate. Make you a hell of a deal. The girls in the Clubs want MONEY $$$$$. End of Story.

Your first Post in my Forum! Thankyou. I wrote a Post in 2004 that a few guys called the "Best Report they ever read". No joke. It was titled, "Davao on $15 a day". This included three meals, Hotel with a/c and 12 beers. It needs to be updated but the point is this: You do not have to be wealthy to travel to the Phils for 2-3 weeks.

Today Davao would run you $ 25/day to $ 30/Day for a decent Hotel room, three good meals and 8-10 San Miguel beers. You do not have to be cheap or a freeloader. Just some simple steps. More on this later.

If you are after the pro girls in the Clubs head for Angeles City first. Skip Manila as it is too expensive for this, although I am certain GE will insist you do a night at LA Cafe. In Cebu do the Happy Hour time at Silver Dollar from 5-9PM nightly. Drinks and ladies drinks are both cheaper than and there are far fewer men around. Women start arriving by 5:00PM and there are at least 20 there by 7:00PM. I like the time as less men means more attention from the ladies and less smoking to have to contend with as a non smoker.

In Davao the girls in the Clubs tend to be expensive. Everything is negotiable, of course. The simple phrase, "will you take a little less"? is effective. Still more fun to try your luck on Rizal Promenade and the area around Ground Zero.

Dragon Slayer

Lookin
06-27-07, 01:55
Thanks for the quick reply. Verrry encouraging. Makes me more inclined to start setting some money aside for the trip from Massachusetts.

GoodEnough
06-29-07, 10:53
As a new member I have eagerly read many. Would love to contribute a report of my own about the Phillipines some day. Have never been there but am looking forward to a trip. Just wondering? How accepting are "good looking" young bar girls to older men? I am 61 but could pass for 55. Of course willing to pay. Hope I didn't miss something about this subject in earlier forum discussions. If so my apology's.

LookinI am older than you are and probably look younger than my age, but no one is ever going to mistake me for a callow youth. The woman with whom I've lived for the past three years is less than half my age. The same is true of all of my friends here. The DS has a gorgeous friend, Jen, about whom he's often posted, and believe me, she's lots younger than he is.

The fact is that age doesn't matter much here and many women (I'm not speaking of the pros who will go with anyone) prefer older foreigners. Why? They tend to be kinder. They tend to treat them better, which is probably due to a combination of having more money and being generally more mature. I'm sure there are other reasons as well. The bottom line for you is that you should not consider your age as a liability here. I knew a guy a few years ago who had just turned 75 and had just fathered a child with his 20 something girlfriend.

The bar girls don't care as long as you have the money to pay for their services. However, you do not have to limit yourself to this circle if you do not want to. You will find plenty of non-pros equally willing to spend time with you provided you're reasonably articulate, dress reasonably well and are reasonably nice to them.

In general, I agree with the DS about the pro scene in Manila. It's ubiquitous, but expensive. LA Cafe however (my opinion is not always shared by others) is worth the trip. No ladies drinks, no bar fines and no hassle. If you're lucky, you will end up with a nice looking girl and it will not cost you more than Php1,500. The EDSA entertainment complex in Manila, where the bar fines are only Php1,000 the the girls' tips Php1500-2000 can also be fun. Bourgos St. and the Roxas Street bars are outrageous and should be avoided, though there are lots of free lancers on Bay Walk. I have a very good friend who recently picked up a freelancer outside Cafe Havana in Greenbelt and he paid only Php1500, so that might be worth a try as well.

I hope you eventually make it to the PI and check it out yourself.

GE

Lookin
07-02-07, 21:02
It all sounds very enticing. I first got the idea of finding an Asian babe when an old friend from L.A., Cal. went to China and brought 1 home to marry and she is very intelligent. I am not into the marriage thing, been there-done that. I just want to participate in some great sex with young good looking girls. Guess I just never got enough of that in my younger days and want to make up for some lost time.


I am older than you are and probably look younger than my age, but no one is ever going to mistake me for a callow youth. The woman with whom I've lived for the past three years is less than half my age. The same is true of all of my friends here. The DS has a gorgeous friend, Jen, about whom he's often posted, and believe me, she's lots younger than he is.

The fact is that age doesn't matter much here and many women (I'm not speaking of the pros who will go with anyone) prefer older foreigners. Why? They tend to be kinder. They tend to treat them better, which is probably due to a combination of having more money and being generally more mature. I'm sure there are other reasons as well. The bottom line for you is that you should not consider your age as a liability here. I knew a guy a few years ago who had just turned 75 and had just fathered a child with his 20 something girlfriend.

The bar girls don't care as long as you have the money to pay for their services. However, you do not have to limit yourself to this circle if you do not want to. You will find plenty of non-pros equally willing to spend time with you provided you're reasonably articulate, dress reasonably well and are reasonably nice to them.

In general, I agree with the DS about the pro scene in Manila. It's ubiquitous, but expensive. LA Cafe however (my opinion is not always shared by others) is worth the trip. No ladies drinks, no bar fines and no hassle. If you're lucky, you will end up with a nice looking girl and it will not cost you more than Php1,500. The EDSA entertainment complex in Manila, where the bar fines are only Php1,000 the the girls' tips Php1500-2000 can also be fun. Bourgos St. and the Roxas Street bars are outrageous and should be avoided, though there are lots of free lancers on Bay Walk. I have a very good friend who recently picked up a freelancer outside Cafe Havana in Greenbelt and he paid only Php1500, so that might be worth a try as well.

I hope you eventually make it to the PI and check it out yourself.

GE

GoodEnough
07-03-07, 21:03
Lookin, I don't think any of us ever got enough in our younger days, which is why we love this place. I think most of us are coming from the same place. The exceptions being the younger guys who are smarter than we were and discovered the country earlier than we did. Of course the PI, most of the rest of SE Asia and most of Africa (and I understand much of South America) illustrate that there's a way of life that's radically different from North America and Europe. It just takes many, if not most of us a long time to find it out.

Let me know if/when you decide to come over here.

GE

GoodEnough
07-06-07, 12:15
So, the Slayer has been in country for about three days but I haven't seen him yet. He just arrived in Davao this afternoon while I was working. I have spoken with him a few times though while he was in Manila. Seems like last night, while he was with the lovely Jen, her sister came to visit and wound up sharing the Slayer's bed. Together with Jen of course. I told him that two sisters was definitely medal territory, though the gold may have to go to someone who has actually been with triplets all at the same time. Until I hear about that guy however, I think I'll let DS keep the gold.

Tonight, we'll meet at Chico's and I'll watch DS troll for new women, and I'm sure he'll post about it. Chico's on Friday night should be excellent, even if all I get to do is watch.

GE

Dragon Slayer
07-09-07, 04:11
Guys,

My first post since arriving in the Phils. Still in Davao (do NOT want to ever leave). Ben incredible so far. Will post on Davao Board, unless this 21 y/o pussy shows up first. She texted she is on her way. I had to squeeze her into a "relief Position" on my "roster" as I have Jenny whom I met Saturday night at "Pussy Central" (21 and a 9. looks and 8.5 body; small tits) meeting me for lunch. and my May from Friday night at Pussy Central coming by this evening.

I love Chinese women. Wonderful, beautiful and great at fucking. Second only to filipinas in my List. Make the effort to visit China along with Davao.

Dragon Slayer

Genghois
08-09-07, 00:00
Hey DS. You express your fondness for Ormoc. I may be going through in October and would love to have some info on GF accomodations, venues for entertainment, etc.

Dragon Slayer
08-10-07, 00:50
Genghois,

I love Ormoc City. Still need to get the Post i about the "three 9's in my Penthouse Suite". This is a great college town with at least 7 colleges here and located right on the water. I have stayed at Don Felipe and the newer hotel in town that was a Days Inn but now is something else. I much prefer the Don Felipe where the rooms have been renovated thi past year. They have a terrace where you can sit and see the girls going by. At night the park acroos the street is great during school session for co-eds looking to fuck for tuition money (got this on insider information from a girlfriend of my Jen living in Ormoc).

This is a city you definitely want to visit during school session. I now stay in the Penthouse Suite on the rooftop, a magnificent accomodation with a terrace that wraps around, giving you ocean views from two angles. The kid loves this Hotel also. The restaurant has good food and terrace dining as well. A nice Club is here also with live music 7 nights.

As to Clubs, there used to be two in town. I visited one back in 2000. Have no idea what it has for this now. I will have to inquire. I have always picked up the regular, young co-eds here.

Dragon Slayer

Genghois
08-14-07, 03:37
Thanks DS.

You're a gentleman.

I'll report back on any adventures I should have.

Blunderer
12-22-07, 13:09
I was chatting to a friend yesterday about what it would cost to retire & settle in SE Asia permanently.

Things required in the budget:

Decent car
Boat
Nice place to live (rental I am thinking - maybe a serviced apartment)
Enough to support a family should one decide it was what one wanted
Trips to Europe annually
New laptop annually
Eating out (nice places) v frequently
Broadband, cable blah blah
Enough for frequent trips to the rest of S E Asia
Enough for women

Now, for a while, my 'dream number' was $US2000* a week. I think that'd be plenty to do all of the above... but it is probably way too much. The thing is, the more it needs to be, the longer I have to keep working, so, I want to try and come up with the lowest reasonable number I can.

I've noticed DS seems to bounce back and forth to the States quite a bit, so, I imagine his costs are not entirely dissimilar to what mine would be. Any chance you could give some indication as to your weekly/monthly/annual budget in a manner that might be helpful for me when trying to calculate mine.

Is $1000 a week more than enough? Less?

*All numbers index linked of course

Dragon Slayer
12-22-07, 20:44
Blunderer,

I go First Class all the way in my travels now. But I have had my own Firm in the US for a very long time and my own Home also. On the latter I never refinanced or added a second and it is now "free and clear". I did have two corvettes and a boat once but now keep it modest. I am primarily operating on a budget at home which aloows for lots of good red wines and magnificent champagnes (I have a Client/good friend in the business; pays his bill in the above and I get anything I need at wholesale or less which saves me thousands annually).

My largest expenditure is my two chiildren in Asia and my adopted daughter there. This is very expensive. Private schools for the two girls (silk designer uniforms and formal dress for ???) and I pay the rent on a nice apartment for my Son, his mother and older sister (have no fucking idea why I do this,so do not ask me). My son has been hospitalized twice and this is another large bill.

Other basic living expenses are extremely low in the Philippines. You could get by for $1000/month before Entertainment. A live in maid runs you $ 45/mo plus food which is little. GE knows a couple gusy with 2-3 maids and regular blowjobs/fucking is part of their duties for each man (a bit higher slaary of course). A car is not expensive and neither is a boat.

I am now seeking to buy a nice home in Davao City as my costs in Hotels is a bit high. I have also begu n to work while on Trips to Asia using the Business Centers at the Hotels but GE was kind enough to provide a small Office (my rent is fine reds and good Champagnes).

More on this in a seprate post here.

Dragon Slayer

GoodEnough
12-23-07, 02:15
I was chatting to a friend yesterday about what it would cost to retire & settle in SE Asia permanently.

Things required in the budget:

Decent car
Boat
Nice place to live (rental I am thinking - maybe a serviced apartment)
Enough to support a family should one decide it was what one wanted
Trips to Europe annually
New laptop annually
Eating out (nice places) v frequently
Broadband, cable blah blah
Enough for frequent trips to the rest of S E Asia
Enough for women

Now, for a while, my 'dream number' was $US2000* a week. I think that'd be plenty to do all of the above... but it is probably way too much. The thing is, the more it needs to be, the longer I have to keep working, so, I want to try and come up with the lowest reasonable number I can.

I've noticed DS seems to bounce back and forth to the States quite a bit, so, I imagine his costs are not entirely dissimilar to what mine would be. Any chance you could give some indication as to your weekly/monthly/annual budget in a manner that might be helpful for me when trying to calculate mine.

Is $1000 a week more than enough? Less?

*All numbers index linked of courseBlunderer:

To a large extent, your costs will be driven by where you want to live and how you want to live. It's going to cost you 20% more, in general to live in Cebu than to live in Davao, for example, and 20% more than Cebu to live in or around Manila. It will cost you far less to live in a semi-rural area outside of CDO say, than it will in CDO or Davao. So that's the first decision you need to make and you will probably not be able to make an informed decision until you come over here for an extended stay (or repeated shorter stays) and see several areas.

Having said that, let's assume for the sake of a baseline that you would like to live in Davao and let's further assume you want to live in a gated community with upper middle class Filipinos and expatriates. Depending on the type of house you want to rent (you cannot buy remember), that's going to cost you between $1,000 and $2,000 a month with three months security deposit and three months rent up front.

You do not say what type of boat you want to buy, but again, for the sake of argument, let's assume you want a standard banca. That will run you about $3,000 plus maintenance and operating costs and dockage fees, so guesstimate another $250 a month for those expenses. Again, you don't say what type of car you want other than a "nice" one, so assume about $15,000 for a very nice used car or $35-$45,000 for a really nice new one.

If you want to eat like a westerner, figure anothre $350 a month for food. If you're more into the Filipino cuisine, take it down to $150 a month. Throw in about $100 a month for utilities and another $200-$400 for entertainment and you've about got it. Of course, you can throw in another $50 or so for a helper and amortize the cost of clothes at another $20-$30, and $100 or so a month for fuel for the car and boat, but you've got the idea. By the way, it's a lot easier just to rent a boat and captain whenever you want to take to the water than to get your own, but that's a choice you need to make.

Based on the above, your estimate of $1,000 a week would let you live extremely well here. Anything above that would pretty much be extraneous. I live, I think, very well, and I spend somewhere between $4,000-$5,000 a month depending on whether I've bought any toys during the month. I'm not sure I could realistically spend much more above that and improve my lifestyle.

This may be too generalized to be very helpful to you however. You may want to purchase a condominium (which you can own), which would affect your monthly costs, or you may decide to live in or around Manila, in which case you can forget about having a boat and you really don't need a car. As I said in the beginning, your first decision needs to be where you want to live.

DS has probably made 100 or more trips here and he's been all over the country, so he's been able to make informed decisions about where and how he wants to live when he's here. But remember, his experience, or my experience will not be your experience. Each person's framework of choices is unique to him and there's simply no substitute for coming over and looking around.

GE

Soapy Smith
01-17-08, 07:24
DS, GE, or anybody else with

I have been an occasional poster on another of the Philippine boards for about a year and half and just recently wandered into DS's forum here. Although posting is much more sporadic here than on other Philippine forums, including Jackson's main board, I like the tone you guys maintain. I am probably just a few years younger than GE, and I certainly fit the description one of you guys gave about why Filipinas like older Western men. We're more gentle, when we want to be we can afford to be generous, we're more likely to take our time -- sometimes we can't help it, and, perhaps most important, we're less likely to let our glands overload our brains. I sometimes just don't enjoy the macho, insulting, competitive stuff that runs in some other forums. Or maybe, considering an observation one of you guys suggested, I'm just jealous I didn't discover RP when I was that age. But it is fun trying to catch up a little bit for everything I missed out on when I was younger. And having sex with Filipinas younger than your own children sure can make you feel young. Let's face it, Filipinas are very exotic women. Interestingly, a few months ago I helped tour a small group of Filipino entrepreneurs (mostly aged 25 to 35) here in my home town in the states. When we took them out to a really thriving bar and they got a few drinks in them and women started to show up, they just kept repeating that "American women are so beautiful, American women are so beautiful." I think maybe the principal libidinal trigger is between the ears.

A year ago I had occasion to spend about five months in the Manila area on business. I became a weekend regular at LA Cafe and really got to know my way around that area and around those freelancers. I may soon be on the verge of returning to RP but would like to travel a little more broadly. When I was there a year ago I traveled once into the Visayas and a few times into several of the provinces north and south of Manila on Luzon. But now I am working with some others on some potential business connections that could take us elsewhere. Of particular interest are Cagayan de Oro, Puerto Princesa, and Iloilo City. Of these, I've only been to Iloilo City, and it seemed kinda quiet and tame. Given your travel experiences, and considering that my style of mongering is probably more like GE's than DS's, that is, more likely to look for bargirls than the smooth pickups of "normal" girls that DS does, which of these three cities is going to suit my mongering needs better?

Thanks for whatever advice you can offer. Skip

GoodEnough
01-17-08, 12:06
skip, thanks for the post and the observations. i agree fully with the libidinal location. i remember during one trip to indonesia, meeting a group of government bureaucrats who were about to make their first trip to the states, and kept joking with each other about finally having a chance to "ride the white horse;" a goal apparently, of every red-blooded indonesian man. our exoticism is their boredom threshold and i suppose the converse is also true.

of the three cities you mention, i can only comment on cdo, where we have an office and to which i travel frequently. it's a lovely city. clean and attractive, with plenty of clubs to entice you. my favorite club is probably gion but there are several others including bada bing, fantastic and another one directly across the street from bada bing. there are others of course, like pyramid and several more down market places, but the ones i mentioned are probably the best known. there are also some lovely restaurants, nice malls, coffee shops and other amenities rep001tered around the center of the town. there are also several hotels, of which my favorite, in terms of both location and quality, is the mallberry, directly across the parking lot of limketkai mall.

the city is also extremely safe and you need not have any worries about walking around the center of town. if you hook up with someone with whom you want to spend a few days, camiguin island is only about 3 hours away and it's a terrific place to unwind. it's very quiet though and there's zero nightlife, so you've got to bring someone.

hope this helps. if you need any more information on cdo, just send me a pm and i'll try to provide additional details.

ge

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Soapy Smith
01-18-08, 08:44
Thanks GE. I've seen your advice on CDO in other threads and other boards, but this update is appreciated. Are the clubs you mention in CDO, and in particular the indicators and numbers of women who are available for commerical takeout, similar to what we see, for example, at LA Cafe? Or does the monger have to acquire an eye and a certain amount of assertiveness for approaching a few who are eager to connect from among a majority who do not want to be approached by lecherous old Westerners?

As I anticipate a new type of bar scene I reflect back on my first visit to LA Cafe. I had played lurker and taken a few notes from another board for about six months before I traveled to RP the first time but wasn't at all sure what to expect. I settled in on business matters for the first five days after arriving in Manila, then reserved a hotel room for Saturday night at Las Palmas, checked my maps to figure out the layout in Ermita, and struck out by taxi. This was in November '06. I checked in to the hotel, showered, and walked nervously to where the notes had said the LA Cafe should be. This was about two in the afternoon. The lighted signs make it hard to miss. I had no idea what was on the other side of the door, but the smiling doorman opened the door, thus erasing any fear I had about opening it. Also, since I could see inside and saw what was a fairly simple bar and a few tables -- and nobody or nothing that looked particularly threatening, it seemed perfectly safe to step over the threshold.

One of the drink waitresses, undoubtedly sensing I was a newbie, pointed me to an open stool on the near side of the bar, probably because it was within her area of responsibility. Given the perspective of many later visits, I now know this was a slow time, so the waitresses, mamasans, and freelancers all saw me as fresh meat. I suspect the blades of green grass were still sticking up behind my ears for all to see. I'd barely gotten my San Mig when I was approached simultaneously by two women. One of them asked if I wanted to talk, and when I turned to the left sideways on the stool to answer, they quickly made contact, literally. The one who talked first spoke a few more words and then stepped in between my right leg and the bar, leaning against the outside of my right thigh. This sort of obligated me to talk with them or send them packing verbally, since where she stood made it impossible for me to turn back to the bar. The other woman then stepped in near my other leg, and within a short while was actually standing inside my left knee, also making direct contact with my leg. Although I'd had one previous MP experience in China, this was my first ever encounter with bargirls in a Third World setting. I liked it.

The usual questions followed, "how long have you been in RP, is this your first time, what are you doing in RP, have you been to LA Cafe before, how long will you be in RP, where are you from in America, are you married, do you speak Tagalog," and so on. They gave me a little banter in return. One was from one of the southern Luzon provinces and had a young son living at home with her parents, the other had lived mostly in Manila and had a Japanese boyfriend who sent her money for support. The barmaid asked if I wanted another SM (I did) and whether I wanted to buy drinks for the two women. I agreed. At early afternoon prices the SM was only 50 or 55 pesos, and the women got iced tea or some kind of soda, each of which was in the same price range. I kinda liked that the music coming over the speakers made it hard to hear each other, which I used to justify leaning in close to their ears, also occasionally touching them on their bare arms. It all felt very intimate and very enjoyable. I guess I knew when I started touching their arms that I was really marking territory I wanted to explore. Soon the woman to the left, Anna, was gently stroking the inside of my thigh and my groin was beginning to develop a mind of its own. I'm sure they both noticed.

The other woman, Katalina, the one with Japanese boyfriend, asked where I was spending the night. When I indicated I had a room at Las Palmas, she asked if I wanted to take a woman back to my room. I said it seemed like it might be fun, but it depended what the price was. "Besides," I said, "it seems like this might become a difficult choice between two lovely women." She said it would cost me 1000 pesos, but maybe I should take both of them. The other one (Anna) agreed that she'd do it for 1000 as well. I'd only done one other threesome in my life, but I really liked these two, so I agreed. As I gained experience over the subsequent weeks I realized that much more attractive women were available and that I'd been much too easy and unselective in this first trip, but for that moment I was too horny to care.

They were great. I told them I was unsure whether we'd be hassled by the hotel doorman, but Katalina assured me we wouldn't, that the doorman would simply take down their names or hold their IDs. Clearly they'd done this many times before, but never together they told me later. In fact, I know now they barely knew each other. Once inside the room Katalina suggested we take a group shower. What fun. I couldn't resist helping them each soap up, and then they teamed up getting my special parts especially clean and especially well enlarged. Once we climbed onto the bed Anna showed she was very at ease in her nakedness and very willing to initiate a little BBBJ. She and I then did a little double-backed beast in several different contortions. It was great, she was great. Lots of DFK, gentle and stimulating moaning (probably fake but still convincing), legs wrapped around my hips. It just felt wonderful, and she was really into it. Even having been with more attractive women before and after, both p4p and GF, this woman was just one of the most enthusiastic sex partners I've ever been with.

A little later I turned to Katalina, who by then was still ready mentally, but her treasure tunnel was anything but relaxed. We took our time and eventually got into the deed, which is unfortunately what it felt like. Okay, so sex with her wasn't all that great, but good enough to complete a cup of coffee. Afterward we all talked a bit. They both were very nice, gave me some tips about things to look out for among girls at the bar, and talked a little more about themselves. I told them I was probably going back later in the evening, but that I really didn't want to get involved so planned to be a butterfly. They said they understood. I paid them and walked them out to the doorman's stand. Katalina told me that the girls appreciate this, because it keeps the doormen from hassling them for bribes. I ran into Katalina several other times at the Cafe, but I smiled and shook my head no, and she never pushed me for any follow-up encounters. Anna came up to me several times, and once, even with other more attractive women around, I grabbed her and took her out for a ST. I hadn't even settled in to order a drink. I was very horny, remembered how enthusiastic she was, and we were out the door within five minutes of my arrival. It was even better the second time with her. But several other times I passed on her as well, and although she still came and rubbed on me and made a pitch, I just told her "no, I'm playing butterfly," and she went on her way. I soon became quite selective and learned how to play the area in behind the first floor bar to avoid the undesirables while staying in play for the better looking ones. I had a lot of memorable experiences over the many weekends in a five month span.

I give this blow-by-blow, perhaps more detailed than most will appreciate, to give a sense of how the LA Cafe can be like shooting fish in a barrel. I can only hope it might be like this in some of the clubs in CDO that GE describes. Feedback welcomed.

Skip

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Soapy Smith
01-18-08, 10:13
Thanks GE. I've seen your advice on CDO in other threads and other boards, but this update is appreciated. Are the clubs you mention in CDO, and in particular the indicators and numbers of women who are available for commerical takeout, similar to what we see, for example, at LA Cafe? Or does the monger have to acquire an eye and a certain amount of assertiveness for approaching only a few who are eager to connect with an older Westerner?

As I anticipate a new type of bar scene I reflect back on my first visit to LA Cafe. I had played lurker and taken a few notes from another board for about six months before I traveled to RP the first time but wasn't at all sure what to expect. I settled in on business matters for the first five days after arriving in Manila, then reserved a hotel room for Saturday night at Las Palmas, checked my maps to figure out the layout in Ermita, and struck out by taxi. This was in November '06. I checked in to the hotel, showered, and walked nervously to where the notes had said the LA Cafe should be. This was about two in the afternoon. The lighted signs make it hard to miss. I had no idea what was on the other side of the door, but the smiling doorman opened the door, thus erasing any fear I had about opening it. Also, since I could see inside and saw what was a fairly simple bar and a few tables.- and nobody or nothing that looked particularly threatening, it seemed perfectly safe to step over the threshold.

One of the drink waitresses, undoubtedly sensing I was a newbie, pointed me to an open stool on the near side of the bar, probably because it was within her area of responsibility. Given the perspective of many later visits, I now know this was a slow time, so the waitresses, mamasans, and freelancers all saw me as fresh meat. I suspect the blades of green grass were still sticking out from behind my ears for all to see. I'd barely gotten my San Mig when I was approached simultaneously by two women. One of them asked if I wanted to talk, and when I turned to the left sideways on the stool to answer, they both quickly made contact, literally. The one who talked first spoke a few more words and then stepped in between my right leg and the bar, leaning against the outside of my right thigh. This sort of obligated me to talk with them or send them packing verbally, since where she stood made it impossible for me to turn back to the bar. The other woman then stepped in near my other leg, and within a short while was actually standing inside my left knee, also making direct contact with my leg. Although I'd had one previous MP experience in China, this was my first ever encounter with bargirls in a Third World setting. I liked it.

The usual questions followed, "how long have you been in RP, is this your first time, what are you doing in RP, have you been to LA Cafe before, how long will you be in RP, where are you from in America, are you married, do you speak Tagalog, " and so on. They gave me a little banter in return. One was from one of the southern Luzon provinces and had a young son living at home with her parents, the other had lived mostly in Manila and had a Japanese boyfriend who sent her money for support. The barmaid asked if I wanted another SM (I did) and whether I wanted to buy drinks for the two women. I agreed. At early afternoon prices the SM was only 50 or 55 pesos, and the women got iced tea or some kind of soda, each of which was in the same price range. I kinda liked that the music coming over the speakers made it hard to hear each other, which I used to justify leaning in close to their ears wen I wanted to talk to one of them, also occasionally touching them on their bare arms. It all felt very intimate and very enjoyable. I guess I knew when I started touching their arms that I was really marking territory I wanted to explore. Soon the woman to the left, Anna, was gently stroking the inside of my thigh and my groin was beginning to develop a mind of its own. I'm sure they both noticed.

The other woman, Katalina, the one with Japanese boyfriend, asked where I was spending the night. When I indicated I had a room at Las Palmas, she asked if I wanted to take a woman back to my room. I said it seemed like it might be fun, but it depended what the price was. "Besides, " I said, "it seems like this might become a difficult choice between two lovely women. " She said it would cost me 1000 pesos, but maybe I should take both of them. Anna agreed that she'd do it for 1000 as well. I'd only done one other threesome in my life, but I really liked these two, so I agreed. As I gained experience over the subsequent weeks I realized that much more attractive women were available and that I'd been much too easy and unselective, and too quick to agree on price in this first trip, but for that moment I was too horny to care.

They were great. I told them I was unsure whether we'd be hassled by the hotel doorman, but Katalina assured me we wouldn't, that the doorman would simply take down their names or hold their IDs. Clearly they'd done this many times before, but never together they told me later. In fact, I know now they barely knew each other. Once inside the room Katalina suggested we take a group shower. What fun. I couldn't resist helping them each soap up, and then they teamed up getting my special parts especially clean and especially well enlarged. Once we climbed onto the bed Anna showed she was very at ease in her nakedness and very willing to initiate a little BBBJ. She was also eager to receive a little DATY, and she and I then did a little double-backed beast in several different contortions. It was great, she was great. Lots of DFK, gentle and stimulating moaning (probably fake but still convincing), legs wrapped around my hips. It just felt wonderful, and she was really into it. Even having been with more attractive women before and after, both p4p and GF, this woman was just one of the most enthusiastic sex partners I've ever been with.

A little later I turned to Katalina, who by then was still ready mentally, but her treasure tunnel was anything but relaxed. We took our time and eventually got into the deed, which is unfortunately what it felt like. Okay, so sex with her wasn't all that great, but good enough to complete a cup of coffee. Afterward we all talked a bit. They both were very nice, gave me some tips about things to look out for among girls at the bar, and talked a little more about themselves. I told them I was probably going back later in the evening, but that I really didn't want to get involved and planned to be a butterfly. They said they understood. I paid them and walked them out to the doorman's stand. Katalina told me that the girls appreciate this, because it keeps the doormen from hassling them for bribes. I ran into Katalina several other times at the Cafe, but I smiled and shook my head no, and she never pushed me for any follow-up encounters. Anna came up to me several times, and once, even with other more attractive women around, I grabbed her and took her out for a ST. I hadn't even settled in to order a drink. I was very horny, remembered how enthusiastic she was, and we were out the door within five minutes of my arrival. It was even better the second time with her. But several other times I passed on her as well, and although she still came and rubbed on me and made a pitch, I just told her "no, I'm playing butterfly, " and she went on her way. I soon became quite selective and learned how to play the area in behind the first floor bar to avoid the undesirables while staying in play for the better looking ones. I had a lot of memorable experiences over the many weekends in a five month span.

I give this blow-by-blow, perhaps more detailed than most will appreciate, to give a sense of how the LA Cafe can be like shooting fish in a barrel. I can only hope it might be like this in some of the clubs in CDO that GE describes. Feedback welcomed.

Skip

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Member #4491
01-19-08, 03:14
Great reading Skip!

Obviously more than I who feel/felt a bit nervous and lost walking in to those places. It's even worse in east euorpe where you have 2 large gorillas staring you down in the entrance.

I have to go to AS and Manilla some day. Seems like fun, even though many report about difference in price and quality from "the good old days". Well I wasn't around so I can't comapre anyway.

Everything is an upgrade from the schene in say Riga or Prague I think.

B

Soapy Smith
01-21-08, 06:03
After my post on the 18th I discovered X Man had provided a nice summary of CDO clubs in the "other areas" thread of the main Philippines forum. It's a summary of posts he'd collected from others, including GE. So, my apologies, first, for not having seen his summary previously, and, second, managing to post my own long message here twice. As a new user I don't have privileges to edit my own messages so couldn't go in delete it.

Now, if all goes well, here's a link to X Man's summary. His post is #589:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1012&page=1

GoodEnough
01-21-08, 14:10
Nice post Skip. The thing I like most about LA Cafe I guess is that it's unique, or at least, in the 62 countries I've visited, I've never seen another place quite like it. First, there's the fact that it's open 24/7 and you can always get lucky there. Second, I like the fact that whether you meet someone who appeals to you pretty much depends on luck; the time of day, the weather, the day of the week. Third, it's so laid back. There's no pressure from the bar at all to do anything, even to buy a drink for yourself--no ladies drinks, no bar fines and no hassle whatsoever. Finally, I like the fact that if you don't find anyone who appeals to you, there will always be another wave breaking along the coastline of lust if you're just patient enough.

CDO has "hostess" bars, and some of them are quite nice, but nothing like LA. Virtually all of the clubs include ladies drinks, bar fines, and "dancers," all of whom work for the clubs. As I think I've said many times before, my favorite is the Gion, which has large, overstuffed couches and is fairly comfortable. It also has a largely Japanese-populated karaoke club downstairs, though I've never seen it. The girls seem to rotate between the two floors. Also, several of the ladies disappear early into the VIP rooms, so the one you might consider most desirable are not always available. Best to get there early.

Most of the clubs have bar fines of about Php3,000 that includes the girl and most of the girls will eventually want to go back to the bar after a couple of hours.

Soapy Smith
02-03-08, 08:06
I believe that "appearance is everything". First impressions do matter and they are made within seven seconds after the person notices you. Second impressions can alter the "first impression" but it is much easier to start on a high note and continue upward. I always dress nice when I go out seeking pussy. This means a long sleeve 100% cotton dress or casual shirt, a nice pair of jeans or dress pants (no shorts) and black dress shoes and black socks. Leave the sneakers and white socks for the gym or basketball court.DS,

This post is now nearly ten months old, but I read it once some time ago and then came across it again tonight. I've given a lot of thought to this since the first time I read it, so I want to dig back into it a bit.

I guess I had always previously tried to look layed back and sporty by wearing print T-shirt, sneaks, white socks, and jeans. I presume this appearance you recommend works because Filipinas have learned to associate these outward trappings with "succeesful businessman." So I'm willing to rework my wardrobe a little. The only item I don't understand is long sleeve shirts. Isn't this sort of a weather mis-match? Why not short sleeve dress shirts, short sleeve oxford shirt, or even a print hawaiian shirt? Why the long sleeves?

Dragon Slayer
02-05-08, 01:46
Skip,

Hi. Nice to hear from you. I attended two separate seminars put on by professional dress consultants years ago in order to determine proper attire. I then read a book on dressing up. I paid attention to the chapters dealing with dressing for women.

Essentially the long sleeve dress shirt (100% cotton, button down with collar for wearing a tie) has long been associated with Professionals, successful business executives and the aristocratic upper class. A scrutiny of portraits of paintings in 18th & 19th century historical journals upholds this. I then followed an additional piece of advice from a book on how to meet young, beautiful women. It stated, "look at how men dress who tend to be successful with women and follow their lead".

Short sleeve shirts, just like dark blue or black overcoats are viewed as "office boy" or :rank and file". This has not changed. I did not always do good with ladies but I found out it is a "skill" that can be acquired, just as Salesmanship can be acquired.

I do not go around in suits and ties in the Philippines but I do dress nicely and this has allowed me to meet (and fuck) a lot of regular women, including some of the upper class filipino chinese women. Yes I know tons of guys who claim to do good with the ladies by wearing t shirts, shorts, white socks and sneakers all the time. Perhaps they do. What I do know is that I receive a hell of lot of compliments from filipinas on my attire and this may be part of the reason why I was invited to join the private club in the Davao Marco Polo and why a few hotels offered me 50-60% discounts off normal rates. Again maybe not.

I follow what works. In the USA I always meet Clients wearing a cashmere wool or Japanese silk suit, white, egyption cotton oxford dress shirt and hermes tie. I found that if you dress with style and class and talk the same, people will respect you and treat you like you are "class". I have no trouble getting paid either.

I tried to get the Kid, my nephew in NYPD, to dress similarly to me. It was hopeless. But the Kid never gets laid except by prostitutes from the Clubs, massage parlors and streets. In Cebu he came in to the hotel bar from hanging out with some young girl I had him set up with from the internet. He was wearing a sloppy gray t shirt, jeans, white socks and sneakers. The shirt was hanging out over his stomach accentuating how overweight he is. And I could smell the tobacco on him from ten feet before he reached me.

No, he did not "hookup" with the girl and she left for home, possibly happy to get away from the uncouth guy. My Son's mother has fixed him up with nurses, lab technicians and MDs at the hospital where she is on staff. She has exhausted the supply of available women as they ALL said he does not look or dress (or smell) nice. He has cleaned up his verbal communication which three years ago had fuck, shit, cock and *unt in every sentence uttered. At least this is gone.

For GoodEnough's New Year's Eve Party I decided to go "all out" (it WAS New Year's Eve) and wore attire which I saw Tom Cruise wearing in a recent tv interview: Black silk suit, black oxford cotton dress shirt, dark hermes silk tie and black florsheims. Did it "work". I cannot say, only it made me feel good. Perhaps GE can comment honestly ( I will NOT be offended GE). Jen had a pink, silk dress with no back, v cut front (huge tits hanging out which GE loved) and going to her ankles. I objected to the choice of color (pink) for New Year's Eve but she was insistent.

We have photos taken New Year's Eve '07 and I will post them in the Davao Board shortly.

Dragon Slayer

Soapy Smith
02-05-08, 08:50
Short sleeve shirts, just like dark blue or black overcoats are viewed as "office boy" or :rank and file".

For GoodEnough's New Year's Eve Party I decided to go "all out" (it WAS New Year's Eve) and wore attire which I saw Tom Cruise wearing in a recent tv interview: Black silk suit, black oxford cotton dress shirt, dark hermes silk tie and black florsheims. Dragon SlayerI agree that blue and black blazers say "office boy" or "Kinney Shoes" sales clerk, but doesn't a good quality blue or black pinstripe suit, particularly when matched with a red tie, convey a different image? Silk jackets breathe better than anything else, so they make sense if you must wear a jacket to some function in PI? Do you ever wear a good quality near-transparent barong with dress undershirt?

Please promise you won't go out and join the Church of Scientology, although, even if you did, I guess nobody would know until they see you saluting Tom or one of the other high muckimucks.

GoodEnough
02-05-08, 13:55
I've heard it said that the way you dress--depending on the occasion--reflects, at least in part, how you feel about yourself. Whether this is true or not (and I think that it is), the clothes you wear determine in large measure the appearance you make, and in turn has a lot to do with the way people first perceive you. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I feel better about myself when I know I've done the best I can do look nice. Like DS, I have closet full of Hermes ties, and lots of Egyptian cotton shirts with long sleeves. I never wear short sleeve shirts unless I'm on a dive boat or slouching around the house and I do not own a pair of shorts or white socks. It all has to do with the impression that I want to make.

It's simple logic to assume that women will react more favorably--will have a better first impression--if you're well dressed, and the Slayer, even during the day when he's not chasing pussy, is always well dressed. The fact is that most men here do not dress very well--promotional tee shirts and cheap slacks are big--so that people who do dress well stand out, especially with the women.

Clothes are not of course the only thing that matter, but they do make a difference.

GE

Dragon Slayer
02-05-08, 23:36
Skip Post,

I am ashamed to say do I not yet own a barong Tagolog. I intend to have one made for me this coming Trip. Every guy should have one for the Special Occasions in the Philippines. Again, Chardins is the Place for this. I also will have a black evening style tuxedo made as I intend to form a wine club in Davao where "proper attire" will be mandatory and the wines and champagnes will be exquisite. Meetings will be held Quarterly at the rooftop Private Club in the Marco Polo, the basement Wine Cellar at Swiss Deli, the private party room over by Claude's and Henny's on Rizal Street and perhaps even late evening at the Restaurant at the Red Knights Garden (after the regular crowd is back in their rooms).

Will there be pussy???? YES! A plethora of beautiful, elegant Asian women will be invited as "guests" (members also if they are willing to ante up the Annual Membership Fee). I will host the initial meeting in May upon my Return. Place to be determined but I am leaning towards the basement wine cellar at Swiss Deli from 9:00PM until "last man/woman standing".

No, I have no desire to join Scientology. I once saw how much a Member spends on whatever they call their "programs". No thanks!. I do however think Tom Cruise is a Class Act, save for the insane jumping act on Oprah.

Dragon Slayer

Piper1
02-06-08, 00:37
Guys,

Thanks for the last few posts - I needed a laugh. Funniest stuff I've read since I flicked through a tattered old woman's magazine in the dentist's waiting room.

DS be careful wearing cashmere shirts - very clingy. Better to wear starched black cotton shirts - very slimming. So says Andre', my fashion consultant. LOL.

Soapy Smith
02-06-08, 07:18
Guys, Thanks for the last few posts - I needed a laugh. Funniest stuff I've read since I flicked through a tattered old woman's magazine in the dentist's waiting room.

DS be careful wearing cashmere shirts - very clingy. Better to wear starched black cotton shirts - very slimming. So says Andre', my fashion consultant. LOL.P,

Methinks you do protest too much, especially with choice of subject heading.

Dragon Slayer
02-06-08, 13:14
Piper 1,

The sjuits are cashmere wool or Japanese silk. The shirts are 100% Egyptian cotton "Oxford" buttondown dress. Now I know you are out there in the desert someplace riding a camel with a bed sheet and towel wrapped around your head. No need for the "affluent look" of western civilization.

Behave yourself or I will not invite you to our first wine party in May. Pussy is already getting excited about it as I have NOT been talking it up here but I HAVE been telling Davao and neighboring hot ladies about it.

Dressing nice does NOT impress many of the guys hanging out in the Philippines TRYING TO GET LAID. It does impress filipinas, as well as ladies in China (fuck like wild there), Japan and even Thailand.

Want to be like most guys visiting Asia? Then dress like a fucking slob!. My nephew will be happy to advise you. Guys can hang with him smoking and drinking while your Dragon Slayer is fucking some gorgeous 21 year old.

Dragon Slayer

Piper1
02-06-08, 21:38
Okay okay, so you're right. As our good friend Mark Twain once said: ďClothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence in society.Ē

Can I come to the party now?

Finrod
02-07-08, 06:07
Wearing cashmere wool in the Phils? How does that work for you? What's your cleaning bill like? Heck, can you get them properly cleaned at all?

I can get into dressing well, but I would think it best to stick with materials like cotton or silk. Do khaki or chino work?

Dragon Slayer
02-07-08, 15:37
Finrod,

Nice to haVe you posting. I wear light weight cashmere woll and as it is wooL, it "breathes". I do not wear the jacket to a suit except for Fine Dining at an elegant restaurant or GE's New Year's Eve Party.

I pay $ 2.65 at current exchange rates to get my pants dry cleaned at the Marco Polo in DAVAO. My long sleeve dress shirts run me $ 2.00 Us. Pick them up in the morning and deliver all on hangers in the early evening. I get my clothes done for a small fraction of this cost at Red Knights Garden (no dry cleaning however) where they come back a day lateR folded. It is A very small price at the hotel I stay at in Ormoc City also. Laundry services are all over Davao City and filipinas will do 5-6 dress shirts and 5-6 dress pants by hand and return them ironed and folded for about $ 5.00 US a day later.

I like having my dress pants dry cleaned and returnd nicely ironed on hangers from the Marco Polo. Cost more but I only have the pants done once every two weeks. I bring 5 pairs of dress pants with me and a dozen long sleeve egyptian cotton dress shirts and 4-5 casual shirts. Just as in the US, I do a full clothing change twice daily so I always have clean, pressed clothes on me.

This is how I do it. Some guys want to roll out of bed and headout in what they slept in, "go for it"! I could give a tinker's fuck! But if you are looking to hook up with the beautifully dressed, elegant ladies working in the malls or attending the finer universities or from filipino chinese families you may want to try my style. For the street walking pros or the girls in the Clubs none of this is necessary. Just bring money and your dick.

Please note that I NEVER stay at any of the dumpy pension houses or apartelles. Life is way too short to subject myself or the Lady I am with to this kind of lifestyle (if you can even call it that), and the denizens who stay here. Red Knights Garden is the closest to this and still far apart. And I only stayed there for two nights, two different kinds of rooms, so I could post in my Forum for the guys as to how I found the place (not bad actually).

Piper 1:

It was Mark Twain that made this quote? My favorite quote is by Oscar Wilde: "My tastes are simple, I like the best of everything". I follow this. Oh and yes, you are invited.

Dragon Slayer

GoodEnough
02-07-08, 15:40
I guess Mark Twain never went to an orgy, where naked people have all the influence. I think we're getting a little overboard here. The point is that it's important to look nice and to take just a little bit of care about your appearance. Whether you wear chinos and a nice short or cashmere and wool slacks (which I actually happen to be wearing now), at least you're not not decked out in faded shorts, a dirty tee shirt, white socks and black shoes.

GE

South by SW 2
02-11-08, 08:26
Looks like I'm going to be in Tokyo again in April on business. Up until now, I've let my business schedule dictate my mongering. That has included short trips to Singapore and Seoul. I'd like to do a dedicated side trip this time to explore some other places.

You gents obviously have a lot of experience around Asia, so I'd welcome any suggestions. Although I love Tokyo, I don't think I'd go for Beijing, Bangkok, or Manila.

The China boards are sprawling and I suspect my lack of language skills will make things difficult. Ditto for Vietnam and Cambodia. Sex in Thailand seems pretty commercialized, which might make freebies harder to obtain. You guys make the Cebu and Davos sound like heaven, plus I've gotten some attractive nibbles from the PI on WF despite a Japan-centric ad. My only concern about the Philippines is that as a side trip it might consume a lot of travel time to get outside of Manila.

I'm 45 and in good shape. I tend to dress well unless I'm trying to keep the P4P prices down. I always pick up at least a few phrases in the local language. I've been to India and South America, so I can handle the third world reasonably well. I'm open to an on-going relationship with the right woman, but playing the field in the meantime. GFEs are always my goal.

Thanks in advance. I'm a subscriber if a PM is more appropriate and the first bottle of wine is always on me.

SbySW

GoodEnough
02-11-08, 12:10
SW:

Nice to hear from you. Though I recommend the Philippines, I wouldn't worry about the lack of English in Vietnam. It never was a problem for me during the six months that I spent there and I really loved Hanoi, where I stayed most of the time. I've never been to Cambodia, but I'm spending some time now with a friend of mine who has lived there for 5 years or so, and he says it's never been a hangup for him. Says the women are gorgeous and that it's all very easy.

The trip from Manila to Davao will take you 90 minutes and there are loads of flights per day on three airlines. Ditto for Cebu, though the flights between Davao and Cebu are limited to a couple of flights a day. The distances are not very great and should not be a deterrent to your considering the Philippines. I agree about not hanging around Manila. I really don't like the place at all, and rarely go there unless I need to go (as I do this week) on business. There are, it's true, lots of clubs, but the place is so polluted and clogged with traffic that it's just no fun for me.

Between Davao and Cebu, I much prefer Davao. It's cleaner. It's not polluted and it's not got the same horrific traffic as Cebu does. On the other hand, Cebu is more sophisticated in terms of restaurants, and it's got lots more pick-up bars. DS knows Cebu far better than I and can give you much better advice about the city.

I guess, in the end, it all comes down to what you're looking for. Davao is very laid back and it's very, very easy here to meet "normal" women.

Let me know if you have any specific questions.

GE

Dragon Slayer
02-11-08, 16:01
gentlemen:

a post was made on this board that implied that i could or might be a ****. whether in jest or not, i deeply resent the comments made by the individual.

as a father of two children and one adopted child i deeply resent any comments concerning ****s. if it was up to me, these sick creatures would be executed. having sex with children is beyond disgusting.

any further references to this topic will not be tolerated.

dragon slayer

Concarne
02-20-08, 22:16
Hello everyone,

I am already planning my second trip to the PHils, I just noticed this subforum. Is there a particular reason as to why it was created DS?

Forgive my ignorance,

Concarne

Dragon Slayer
02-25-08, 23:56
Hi Concarne,

The original Davao Forum had less than a dozen posts over 3 years when I began posting as a new ISG member back in Oct '04. The posts all dealt with how dangerous Davao was and to not go there. I mentioned how I had been going to Davao for nearly ten years then, was having a great time and the situation had improved dramatically.

Soon, a guy calling himself GoodEnough posted on the Davao Board how he had just relocated to Davao for business reasons and was having fun meeting women. He discovered the convenience store on the corner of J Camus St & Illustre St (actually I walked past it a year earlier and paid no attention to it). He posted how he was meeting a lot of young, regular women there in the early evening.

Soon GE and I were making 10-20 posts a week on the Davao Board about the hunt for lovely women in Davao City. We met up Feb 1, 2004 back when I had my beautiful Annie in Davao City. Together, we started picking up women at Ground Zero (my name for this convenience store) and posting our exploits at Clubs like Hot Legs (only the original Hot Legs 1 back then), Galleras, ITME's etc. In April 2004 I stayed as a guest at GE's home and met a young 21 y/o at O'Flanagan's that gave me a handjob in the now famous "handjob booth" (got my second HJ there in July '07).

Before long we had dozens of guys posting, the vast majority had never gone to Davao. Our notoriety soon attracted the lowlifes and "bottom feeders" of the Forum who bagan to insult and ridicule both of us. I received two death threats in PMs and one young guy in New Zealand Pm'd me as to how he wanted to beat the shit out of me. It climaxed in Dec '06 when a Lurker on the ISG Boards using a fake scottish accent came on and began an attack at me. Threatened me with physical abuse and made disgusting comments concerning my religion and my woman, Jen.

Nothing I could do about the piece of shit as he never travelled anywhere and was pretending to be someone he was not (Scottish). By the end of December 2006 both GoodEnough and I stopped posting. I refused to answer any PM's and gave up.

Jackson e-mailed me with a solution: have my own Forum where GoodEnough and I could continue to post our expolits and should "Fake Scotty" or any other cocksucker come onto our Forum, I could delete them in a "New York Heartbeat".

It has worked out pretty good. Many guys post here now and we have no problems with the lowlifes. GE gets anywhere from 5-20 PMs weekly from guys reading our Forum. Everyone appears to get along fine here and nobody feels the need to insult or ridicule another member. Both GE and I do NOT ridicule anyone and asking the same questions that have been asked 100 times is okay.

Look forward to yo posting your experiences here.

Dragon Slayer

Piper1
02-26-08, 00:05
DS - your subforum is much better now than the early aggressive days. It's much better now that you've settled in with some self-confidence and less aggression. I think I know who you can thank for that.

I like your subforum, and it almost makes me want to visit Davao one day.

You're a character, and good fun.

Member #4351
02-26-08, 00:08
Jackson in his wisdom recently did the same on the Peru board giving me my own forum. We didnīt have as many scum posters as you, and I only received a couple of threats, none of them deadly, but it was a good solution and things are slowly getting back to normal.

Dragon Slayer
02-26-08, 20:00
David 33,

It is good to have your comments here. I once ended up in the Peru Forum by accident (clicked on Peru instead of Philippines). I began to read the posts. I noticed that a lot of guys just insulted other members and were not posting any information or comments. This is what was taking place on the old Davao Board back in 2006 and early 2007.

It really got out of hand. The one guy threatened me in PMs and Posts and I had just mentioned how my Son's mother was holding a party for his birthday at the Ayalla Mall Mc Donald's in Cebu, in case some guys wanted to attend (tons of lady MDs and nurses there). I was back home still working but was terrified that this one fucking nutcase would try to get at me by doing something at my son's party. It was too late to cancel as she had already given Mc Donald's at $ 300 deposit (she insisted on renting the entire place for this party; I gave up arguing with her over it).

Mc Donald's agreed to put on Security for the event and the Cebu Police sent a couple guys to patrol the area. Spamhogs, former 25 year Police Detective in a major US city arrived three hours early to sit and work surveillance. I called some guys I knew from my younger days with ____ and they sent a wire to Manila to check out the situation. ALL THIS FOR SOME FUCKING NUTCASE WHO HATED ME FOR POSTING HOW I WAS ENJOYING DAVAO,

This is all supposed to be fun and about having fun with the gorgeous asian women. Hopefully, it will continue to be fun and guys will enjoy reding the Post in this Forum and make their own Posts.

Dragon Slayer

Member #4351
02-26-08, 22:37
I tried to send you this by PM, but your box is full. You can just delete it, no problem;

I won't clutter up your forum with chit chat. I remember reading about your party in Ayala Mall a couple of years ago. I had my best luck there last October when I was in PI and staying in the Marriott next door. I hope to make it back again around Oct. After Ramadan this time for a hop over to Jakarta as well.

Later,

David

Member #4647
03-01-08, 22:28
What is the rock bottom cheapest airfare from LAX to MNL?

What websites, airlines, time of day/week should i fly?

Dragon Slayer
03-02-08, 23:58
I have not checked for my next flight yet. But now through June 15 is a very good time to travel to the Philippines from Manila. After that the summer vacation season begins and fares increase dramatically.

The best days of the week to fly are Tuesday and Wednesday. The worst is Friday, Satureay and Sunday. I fly NWA mainly because I get a 100% mileage bonus and do not have to wait in any lines and get to board whenever I feel like it. I am sure other air ines like Japan Air are better with hot looking flight attendents but my gold cad on NWA makes travel a lot easier. I am frequently upgraded into busniess class also.

There ae several websites offering discounted airfares. Just google up "cheap tickets to the Philippnes". I will post what my next ticket costs when I purchase it.

Dragon Slayer

Concarne
03-04-08, 16:04
DS I appreciate the response.

My only experience in the Phils is limited to AC but I am now working on a second trip. Nice to hear about other options.

I am not sure whether posting re AC is of any use as it is point and shoot. However, I will double check and see what pics I posted in the pic gallery and post new ones here to contribute a bit...unless this is discussion only?

Look forward to having some good exchanges!

Dragon Slayer
03-05-08, 01:35
Feel free to post photos. I have asked many guys to put photos here but unfortunately, it is neve done. Piper 1 placed some photos a few weeks ago. I have put virtually all the photos here and a couple hundred in the other Forums in the past.

I have never been to Angeles City in the nearly 20 years travelling here. I was told by several friens who went there that I was too young and too good at meeting gorgeous, regular women. I still think I would like to visit there, perhaps in early May when I return. I only hope there are some Fine Dining establishments, a Wine Bistro and a Hotel with large sized suite rooms and jacuzzi bathtubs. I hate doing it up "second class".

I did look into flights in late April and early May from the West Coast to Manila. Prices on NWA were a bit steep, around $ 1100-$1200 for economy class. I am certain other airlines will be cheaper.

Keep in touch.

Dragon Slayer

Maple Red
03-05-08, 04:46
Feel free to post photos. I have asked many guys to put photos here but unfortunately, it is neve done. Piper 1 placed some photos a few weeks ago. I have put virtually all the photos here and a couple hundred in the other Forums in the past.

I have never been to Angeles City in the nearly 20 years travelling here. I was told by several friens who went there that I was too young and too good at meeting gorgeous, regular women. I still think I would like to visit there, perhaps in early May when I return. I only hope there are some Fine Dining establishments, a Wine Bistro and a Hotel with large sized suite rooms and jacuzzi bathtubs. I hate doing it up "second class".

I did look into flights in late April and early May from the West Coast to Manila. Prices on NWA were a bit steep, around $ 1100-$1200 for economy class. I am certain other airlines will be cheaper.

Keep in touch.

Dragon SlayerAngeles City is not the best for "fine dining", but I did enjoy a nice Italian meal with wine while I was there.

http://www.citaliandining.com/content/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

In my experience, Philippine Airlines has offered the lowest fares from western USA to Manila. As expected, prices vary by demand (season), but often around $900.

Member #4647
07-19-08, 22:50
There ae several websites offering discounted airfares. Just google up "cheap tickets to the Philippnes". I will post what my next ticket costs when I purchase it.

Dragon SlayerWhat can one expect to pay in October-November?

Tout01
07-21-08, 07:53
Check the websites for JAL Cathay Pacific NWA and PAL but more importantly check authourized dealers for PAL in your local Phil community for the best direct flights to Manila because they are much cheaper than their online prices.

If you are not on the west coast you can still hook up with PAL with a domestic flight to Las Vegas which is usually plentifull and cheap.

For us, on the west coast we have many choices. However, Japan then Korea then Hong Kong are the shortest stop in Asia en route to Phil.

My preference is Cathay Pacific serving Manila and Cebu via Hong Kong but always try to give PAL a shot at the biz. Their online pricing system is good.

JAL serves Manila via Japan and is top rated.

However just getting to Hong Kong direct from your city is good enough as there are a ton of flights to the Phil at all hours of the day and night from Hong Kong on Cebu Pacific and PAL

The sundry Korean and Chinese airlines including Taiwan, just don't do as well for me in the time category. I don't know much about NWA as they do not work for a Canuck.

Tout01
07-28-08, 06:38
Just to make it clear.

PAL's online pricing system sucks and is expensive. PAL flights starting in Las Vegas pick up passengers in Vancouver. Their service is just ok.

Cathay Pacific prices are reasonable, service and connection times are great and their online system is good too.

However, best deals and fastest travels time can be achieved via Hong Kong and then hooking up with Cebu Pacific. However CP has its own sets of problems - flight delays, excess baggage etc.

I prefer Cathay Pacific straight thru to Cebu on an open ticket. Excellent connection times.

Tout01
07-28-08, 20:01
as i am back in sex prison i have a little time to catch up on the phil dating sites. i highly recommend now "dating in asia" just google that. the reason being is that the women can communicate with you even if you are not a paid member unlike fh etc. i had some women comment that they prefer cb to find a quality man unlike fh. i think dia is more suited for the whorist. my profile at dia portrays that image of me and i am getting great response which translates into some curtain down shows here at my home alone with ladies with computers at their employers house. maids etc, ladies from the sundry online pay for play peep shows wishing to attract new business etc.

of course i prefer the maids, makes me feel better.

when it comes to fh i just play a different script and try to snag some quality there although it rarely translates into time under the sheets. best to be in phil with your laptop on during the day tuned into fh waiting for hits whilst you change your location on your profile to the current city you are in. then, you have some real game.

Dragon Slayer
11-12-08, 20:27
Guys,

Besides the obvious one, "how do you meet all these gorgeous, young women", I often get asked about airlines and where to buy V and C in the Phils. On the first I fly NWA over and in the Phils use either Cebu Pacific and PAL. Excess baggage gets expensive now, may double the ticket cost. I am thinking of leaving one bag at the Hotel in Manila to retrieve upon return. This may not work however as I still need to get the Chmpagnes and gifts for my children down to Cebu. Real champagne is very expensive in the Phils and well worth paying the excess baggage fees.

On the matter of buying viagra or cialis, first and foremost, bring 4-5 tabs with you, unless of course you will not be getting laid during the first week of your journey. In which case the site "living in the Philippines" is where you belong (loaded with old farts seeking a cheap place to live). But, I will assume here that like me, you immensely enjoy sex with beautiful asian women and go to the Philippines to get laid 3-4 times a day, beginning with the night you arrive. And you want to be a "Man of Stell" from Night #1.

DO NOT rely on someone else to purchase V for you. Upon arrival in Manila head over the very next day to Burgos St. Walk around during the day. When filipino hustlers approach you tell them you need viagra (not fake watches, pens, glasses, etc). They will offer a 4 Pack of 100mg V for P1500. Do like I do and "politely" reply "eat shit cocksucker". Then say, "I never pay more than P1000 for five (5) 4 packs of 100mg V (20 tablets). You will get it at this price.

If the guy wants to sell you more tell him you will pay P1000 for seven (7), 4 packs and you will get this or 6, 4 packs at this price, 1000 pesos. I did this just last week with the Kid and my Jen. We had five of these assholes surround us and I told them to "blow me"(the Kid's gf got real nervous; my Jen is used to this when I make street purchases). We got out price immediately and moved out of there quickly to avoid further hassles with these guys. We were there at night but the Kid (NYPD) is bigger then me but I suggest you do this ONLY during daytime.

Most of the Clubs on Burgos St open at 11AM and have discounted drink prices until 9PM. We visited Dimples and Hollywood. We were the only patroms in each place and Dimples had 2 girls dancing that were a 9.2 on looks and a 9.0 and 9.3 on body. I was with my Jen however.

BUY 100% OF YOUR V OR C IN MANILA. This last Trip a Pal told me had 5, 4 packs of V for me and would have it to me upon my arrival. It was not at my Hotel and he said he would send it over. Did not happen. I flew to Davao City and he said he would have it forwarded to me there. This never happened. I had 5 100mg tabs with me but had 4 young, lovely filipinas in Davao City,including the new 19 y/o, Jobeth 20, Rose (huge tits) 22 and Marjorie 23 (lovely rack, hot body). It was literraly a "Fucking Marathon".

I always had one over for the night, ate breakfast together in the Club, back to the room to fuck and then she left for work or home. I then had either Jobeth drop by between classes to blow me,fuck me and return to school, or Marjorie would drop over to blow/fuck me as she lived 15 minutes from MP. I arrived at 5PM Friday and by Tues. morning I was out of V. Rose was with me as it was her day off. She fucked me great after breakfast but I was not "up to the matter" afterwards. Fortunately, The Wine Pairing Dinner in the elegant 4th Floor Restaurant (fabulous; consider attending as it is very reasonably priced) was that night.We had a huge, six course dinner with four different wines and at 10PM headed upstairs to relax and watch movies.

Rose was very upset the next morning when T Rex was not his usual giant self. She blew me until I was finally erect (but nothing like with V) and fucked me. She left for work. Jobeth came by looking hot but all we did was talk (I have to "kill" the guy in Manila who said "I have y V, do not buy any"). She left and I called GE. He had none! What the fuck!!!!!!!!!!!. Gave me his prescription for cialis and I went out that evening. First, Rose Pharmacy closed at 9PM. I went to Mercury Drug, waited in a long line and when I get there the pharmacist inspects the "script" like it was an ancient egyptian hieroglyphic. Finally, he scratches his head and says "okay".

He then comes up with the price per pill, 759pesos ($16US). Holy Ass Fucking! Over twice what you pay in the US and 10 times more than in Makati. I say give me two pills (1,518 pesos; $36). He goes in the back for ten minutes as I wonder if he decided to "go on break" now. When he returns he states, "sorry we are out of stocks". No viagra or cialis! What kind of shit is this??? Who ever heard of a pharmacy with no V or C? Answer is that at P759/tab there is little call for it.

I was pissed off and in rough shape after this. Friday afternoon I flew to Cebu. I had to be here and I knew how to buy V here easily (or so I thought). I passed on the hustlers selling it at Fuente Osmena as I bought from them a year earlier and it was fake and useless. I went to Silver Dollar where I knew I could buy the real thing. I got there at 7PM. New bartender told me he knew nothing about (what the fuck?) this and that the owners (Chris/John) would be there by 9PM. I hang around until 9:30PM getting sick from the smoke from all the old farts making sure they die soon by smoking away. As I leave I literally run into Chris as I opn the door.

Chris quickly gets me four (4), 4 packs of V for P3000 ($62.50); expensive but I had lovely Marina coming over that night so I was in no position to complain. When I got to Makati the first thing I did was hook up with the Kid, my nephew in NYPD, and I got another 50 tabs in Burgos.

My Jen is a professional nightclub singer. She said she will purchse it for me in the future as she can purchase the exact same 4 packs of 100mg V for 100 pesos each NOT 200 pesos like I paid. This was confirmed in a discussion with the Lady Floor Manager at Hollywood Club on Burgos.

In any event, bring at least 5 tablets with you and buy at least 20 more tablets on Burgos St. Pay 1000 pesos for this and do not rely on a friend, relative, grandmother, cousin or anyone to buy it for you. And unless you have a GirlFriend/Lover of a few years that is 100% trustworthy and a Professional Singer in Manila with considerable "Street Knowledge", buy it yourself directly as I did last week.

Dragon Slayer

Slylock
02-09-09, 15:51
Hello everyone,

This is my first visit to this Board. Nice work DS and GE.

OK, for the guys sitting at home in the US or Canada. Look in the travel section of your major local paper. Airlines always have whole sellers in every market who's job is to make sure they sell the projected missing seats for International flights. All international flights are never projected full and need to have these fews seats sold off relatively cheap to fill the plane and to make a bit more profit. You can Identify these whole sellers by their small adds on the bottom of the pages near the end of the section. Not all of these will be whole sellers, just companies piggy backing on the real ones. What you need to look at is the prices for Bangkok, Singapore and HK due to the fact that these are the big interchange locations for flights. So anyways I can really get into this but never mind the little details. Call these companies, tell them your are somewhat flexible on the dates and days you leave. That you do NOT mind 2 layovers and they will get you tickets at dirt cheap prices! I flew from Portland to Singapore for 575 USD round trip in 2007! Flew to BKK one way for 562 USD. These prices are including tax. If you are a frequent flyer, and benefit from a certain airlines reward programs, remeber that ALL airlines are apart of a partnership. Like 5 star alliance and so forth. So tell the travel agent that you have 'X' reward system with 'X' airline and want to travel on that airline OR one of its alliance partners. This way you get miles to the same account, you get the same perks and usally a better price as you can be put on a under booked flight! Anyways if you have any more questions just ask, and no I am not a travel agent just too many damn years traveling for business!

Slylock

Dragon Slayer
04-21-09, 00:47
Guys,

I had an unsual experience last Trip when leaving the Philippines. Going through security in Manila, I walk through the metal detector and reach out to retrieve my reading glasses, cellphone and misc from the tray. Slight problem as my cellphone had "disappeared" in the few seconds it took for me to pass through the metal detector.

In filipino fashion the men/women working this security checkpoint merely shrugged indifference when I calmly stated, "my cellphone is missing. It was with my glasses in this tray where I placed it just 20 seconds ago". No one made any comment or move to help. They NEVER intended to do anything.

I yelled outloud that I had been robbed at this Security Checkpoint and that my cellphone was just stolen. It had recently cost me P12,000. I then yelled "Police, Police, Help me I have been robbed". I then asked a Japanese businessman to allow me his cellphone to call Police. I said this very loudly also as I stated, "you people are legally responsible bor my phone until I retrieve it". I dialed Police and began to relate my experience.

Several security guards "jumped to life". One had seen the old filipino man reach into the tray and steal my phone. He would have done nothing but I was obviously NOT going to "shrug this off". The old man was grabbed and brought back to me. He gave me the "filipino trademark smile" and said he made a mistake. I replied, "You made one fucking big mistake old man". The guards then gave me the same trademark filipino smile (same one taxidrivers give when charing P800 for a P90 cab ride).

I GUESS WE HAVE TO BE ALERT AND ON GUARD EVERYWHERE HERE.

Dragon Slayer

Poppyseed
04-29-09, 01:05
I am going to Manila in June to see my beautiful woman Jelle there and will keep this in mind. I have decided not to bring my laptop this trip because I have been informed by a reliable source there of some funny business with computer searches at the Nino airport. I wonder if I would get "the business" if they saw my explicit videos of my woman and I on the laptop?

The way you handled "the theft' was absolutely perfect. Wish I had been there to assist. At 6ft 200lbs I am trained in close quarter combat, and you being 6ft4, 240 with a martial arts background, I think they might think twice about SCAMMING foreigners!

Lucky for the punks and thieves there that we foreigners cannot legally carry our heaters in the phils as I do here in the great state of Texas. That's the biggest problem I have actually is that I am without arms when I get on that flight. My last trip I had a run in with a couple of punks whom I wisely did not engage because it was 4 to 1 and blades were shown. They got my watch and a couple thousand pesos about 3 am in the morning 2 blocks from my hotel. The next punk or punks (I can handle 2 to 1), who wants to rob or fuck with me in Manila will get his head smashed in.

That aside, I am looking forward to a long awaited return to Baguio after a 9 year absence with my woman Jelle.

GoodEnough
04-29-09, 11:29
I go through the airport at least twice a month, and often more, however I always put my phone deep inside my carry on bag, so someone who tries to take it is going to be noticeable when he unzips about four different compartments while looking for it. What DS has reported, and unfortunately what Poppyseed has reported as well do not surprise me. In fact, as the economic crisis worsens, and as people get ever more desperate, things are (in my opinion) just getting worse. The number of beggars is increasing, the number of jobs is shrinking, options are narrowing, and the inevitable consequence is that petty theft is going to increase.

As to beating the crap out of locals, no matter how capable you are of doing it, it's is never a great idea--especially in a rather public place--because of the possible consequences involved. You're a foreigner here and you are therefore always in the wrong, and you have no idea of who may be in the crowd and watching.

GE

Poppyseed
04-29-09, 19:19
Good Enough,

Sadly, I know your right. Bottom line is: avoid situations where you have no escape route and dim lighting. I took an I'll advised shortcut, which led to the trouble. We are indeed in the wrong, even with a known gang of punks and thieves---just the reality of the PI, take it or leave it. I will reevaluate my future routes to help avoid another incident. It can still happen of course to anyone, anywhere, but the odds will be significantly more favorable. Thanks for bringing me back to "reality".

Brastrav
05-16-09, 13:04
Hello,

Did you guys ever had troubles with online booking of tickets at the website of Philippine Airlines? After choosing the fligths and filling in everything what's needed, I always receive an error message that says that they have problems validating my credit card.

I've contacted my bank already. Everything's OK with my credit card and nothing is been charged by PAL. Also online booking on the website of Cebu Pacific does not work.

Do any of you guys know what could've been wrong or why it is online bookings can't be made? Are there decent solutions to handle this problem?

Thanks,

Mike Bel

Southbound69
05-16-09, 17:56
Hello,

Did you guys ever had troubles with online booking of tickets at the website of Philippine Airlines? After choosing the fligths and filling in everything what's needed, I always receive an error message that says that they have problems validating my credit card.

I've contacted my bank already. Everything's OK with my credit card and nothing is been charged by PAL. Also online booking on the website of Cebu Pacific does not work.

Do any of you guys know what could've been wrong or why it is online bookings can't be made? Are there decent solutions to handle this problem?

Thanks,

Mike BelYes, I had problems booking a flight on PAL about a month ago. I never had a problem in the past with PAL. It was a great fare so I ended up booking it through a third party website (Cheapo Air) for $14 more. I still need to book a local flight through them. I had the same problem you did. Everything was fine until I submit my credit card, which was the same one I've always used. CC company said everything was fine on their end.

Cebu Pac (and Air Asia) has been fine for me as long as I use my Citibank Mastercard debit card. I recently booked a CRK-BKK flight on their website with no problem. My Capital One card won't work with them but always has with PAL (until now). I like them because they don't charge a foreign transaction fee, which, for a $1, 200 ticket can be about $40.

It's frustrating but keep trying, perhaps try a Mastercard. Also, make sure your personal info that you submit is exactly the same as it is with the cc company.

Southbound69

Dragon Slayer
05-21-09, 13:06
Guys,

Before departing on this Trip I wasted two hours attempting to purchase my ticket from Manila To Hong Kong on websites for Cebu Pacific and PAL. In desperation, I fiannly tried Expedia. Had the ticket purchased on PAL in less than 10 minutes (not used to expedia website) for less than on PAL site where I could not purchase it anyway.

I had my daughter's mother contact a Travel Agent for her R/T ticket to Hong Kong on PAL. I then went to expedia and purchased it in five minutes for less then half the fare quoted by the Travel Agent.

Not sure why the above occurred, but expedia will be getting more business from me.

Dragon Slayer

Carmex
05-22-09, 06:11
In fact, as the economic crisis worsens, and as people get ever more desperate, things are (in my opinion) just getting worse. The number of beggars is increasing, the number of jobs is shrinking, options are narrowing, and the inevitable consequence is that petty theft is going to increase. GENo kidding. My girl in Leyte just got robbed while txting me outside the market. Same old MO, drove up on motorbike and snatched her phone, a nokia music express. Her father told her not to leave the house with the phone, and she never takes her bag with her.

I was really surprised with this happening in the village. But she said she was in the "big" town of baibai (sp? ) just after the horse fights. Bummer part is, the phone had all kinds of video and pictures in it, and the video was good stuff!

GE, this the same happening in Davao and Gen San? Kinda funny, she blamed the "mountain people" for the crime. I told her now she gonna have to leave the phone in her panties and turn it on vibrate hehe. Have to find some humor somewhere in all this.

Tighten your belts folks, it's looking bad all over.

C.

GoodEnough
05-22-09, 11:43
No kidding. My girl in Leyte just got robbed while txting me outside the market. Same old MO, drove up on motorbike and snatched her phone, a nokia music express. Her father told her not to leave the house with the phone, and she never takes her bag with her.

I was really surprised with this happening in the village. But she said she was in the "big" town of baibai (sp? ) just after the horse fights. Bummer part is, the phone had all kinds of video and pictures in it, and the video was good stuff!

GE, this the same happening in Davao and Gen San? Kinda funny, she blamed the "mountain people" for the crime. I told her now she gonna have to leave the phone in her panties and turn it on vibrate hehe. Have to find some humor somewhere in all this.

Tighten your belts folks, it's looking bad all over.

C.I don't know the answer to your question, but I assume that it's happening all over as things get ever more desperate. In a "normal" economy, almost half the population of the country subsists on less than $2 a day, and I have no idea what the percentage is now as more overseas workers lose their jobs, though according to the government the flow of remittances on which the country depends has not slowed, but then that's the government reporting and it's got a problem sorting truth from fiction, so who knows?

It's interesting to contrast the Philippines, where you're mobbed by child beggars at every corner, with Thailand, where the incidence of beggars seems to be about a tenth of the Philippines. I'm now in Bangkok and while it's true that the normal flood of tourists has obviously become a trickle, there doesn't seem to be any true desperation on the streets. Bangkok seems to be pretty much what it's always been, absent the tourists of course.

GE

MongerManiac
05-22-09, 15:02
I just booked Honk Kong to Cebu online at Cebu Pacific. I was declined with my UK credit card, but about 2 minutes later I got a call from the Bank antifraud department telling my someone was trying to use my card in The Philippines. When I explained that I was trying to book airline tickets online, they asked the amount and told me to try again. I was successful booking at the second attempt.

The moral of the story is. Before you book online with Cebu Pacific, call your Bank or Credit Card company and tell them what you're doing. They'll then release any geographical anitfraud block.

Good luck,

MM

Brastrav
05-22-09, 23:59
Dragon Slayer,

I've visited the website of Expedia, but found out that the prices of the flights are more expensive. For a return flight Manila-Cebu and back prices shown on the Expedia website are quoted $254. Prices quoted on the PAL website are about 3, 191 PhP, inclusive of taxes and other charges.

Strange that you've had it for less on the Expedia website than the PAL website.

Mike Bel


Guys,

Before departing on this Trip I wasted two hours attempting to purchase my ticket from Manila To Hong Kong on websites for Cebu Pacific and PAL. In desperation, I fiannly tried Expedia. Had the ticket purchased on PAL in less than 10 minutes (not used to expedia website) for less than on PAL site where I could not purchase it anyway.

I had my daughter's mother contact a Travel Agent for her R/T ticket to Hong Kong on PAL. I then went to expedia and purchased it in five minutes for less then half the fare quoted by the Travel Agent.

Not sure why the above occurred, but expedia will be getting more business from me.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
05-23-09, 11:54
Mike Red.

Both four weeks ago from my City in the USA and last Tuesday May 19 I got cheaper flights using Expedia than what PAL quoted. I tried both Cebu Pacifia and PAL for over 2 hours 4 weeks ago in USA and used four separate credit cards. No luck on either site. Went to expedia and had it booked and paid for on PAl for $ 90 less. It was $ 250 less for R/T for L from MLA to HKG to MLA.

Dragon Slayer

GoodEnough
05-31-09, 12:56
I'm putting this post here, as the FAQ Section seemed most appropriate, though this is not a response to any particular question, but a simple commentary.

I just got back late last week from a nine day trip to Thailand, which I enjoyed, as I always do. It has always seemed to me that Thai culture, Thai food, and the Thai people in general are simply more interesting than the food, culture and people in the Philippines.

Today, I read a post by Old Thai Hand on the Thailand Board, and he made the point--as others including myself have made here--that living and working in Thailand, particularly outside of the retirement "bubble" of Pattaya, can be enormously frustrating, and disillusioning. This of course struck a responsive chord in me, since I feel the same way about the Philippines. That is, once you live here and work here, and have to try to actually get things done here, the bloom fades from the rose fairly quickly: the incompetence, deceit, corruption, and general lack of capability somehow becomes insufficient to offset the obvious benefits that so many intermittent travelers here enjoy.

My response to the poverty and hopelessness has been to try to adopt a dispassionate point of view. I have a good job. I'm well paid. I have a nice life, so why should I care about the rest? Recently however, I've found that this doesn't seem to be enough; that the emptiness of the culture is pervasive, and it seeps like smoke under a door, into your life no matter the barriers that you try to erect to keep it at bay.

I'm getting fed up to the point that I'm seriously thinking of looking for someplace else to go and something else to do. I guess I'm writing this as a sort of intellectual catharsis, but I do want to point out that coping with the frustrations intrinsic to living here is far different from vacationing here, and that this should factor into any decisions about moving here on a permanent or semi-permanent basis.

GE

X Man
06-02-09, 16:08
I'd love to be in your position GE. Nevertheless, I start getting antsy myself after a few weeks in the Philippines.

But where would you go?

X


I'm putting this post here, as the FAQ Section seemed most appropriate, though this is not a response to any particular question, but a simple commentary.

I just got back late last week from a nine day trip to Thailand, which I enjoyed, as I always do. It has always seemed to me that Thai culture, Thai food, and the Thai people in general are simply more interesting than the food, culture and people in the Philippines.

Today, I read a post by Old Thai Hand on the Thailand Board, and he made the point--as others including myself have made here--that living and working in Thailand, particularly outside of the retirement "bubble" of Pattaya, can be enormously frustrating, and disillusioning. This of course struck a responsive chord in me, since I feel the same way about the Philippines. That is, once you live here and work here, and have to try to actually get things done here, the bloom fades from the rose fairly quickly: the incompetence, deceit, corruption, and general lack of capability somehow becomes insufficient to offset the obvious benefits that so many intermittent travelers here enjoy.

My response to the poverty and hopelessness has been to try to adopt a dispassionate point of view. I have a good job. I'm well paid. I have a nice life, so why should I care about the rest? Recently however, I've found that this doesn't seem to be enough; that the emptiness of the culture is pervasive, and it seeps like smoke under a door, into your life no matter the barriers that you try to erect to keep it at bay.

I'm getting fed up to the point that I'm seriously thinking of looking for someplace else to go and something else to do. I guess I'm writing this as a sort of intellectual catharsis, but I do want to point out that coping with the frustrations intrinsic to living here is far different from vacationing here, and that this should factor into any decisions about moving here on a permanent or semi-permanent basis.

GE

Dragon Slayer
06-03-09, 23:39
Guys,

GoodEnough was just a little "bummed out". A close friend of his left Davao City when a five year work contract was over. Another much lesser frient, R (cocksucker if you ask me) also left and he was a drinking/smoking pal of GE's. Losing a good friend as things change is difficult. Plus, he was in Thailand most of the tiime when I was in Davao. Safe bet the ISG guys he met fell short of the excitement and good times he has with Dragon Slayer.

Living year round in the US and having to deal with life here is not always a "bed of roses". You have an abundance of rude, nasty gerry's (geriatric, old witches age 40 & above). These women can be unpleasant even under the best circumstances. Throw in low income, being overweight, and the realization that their life may not turn out the way they had hoped, and you have genuine "demons from hell". Nothing worse than being confronted by one of these hippos for no other reason then you happen to be neatly dressed and in the same restaurant or whatever as they are.

In the Philippines people are very friendly and life flows at a much easier pace. Inefficiency is the "option for everyone" but this is often not the case. I rarely have problems at my Hotel in Makati City, my Hotel in Leyte or the Marco Polo in Davao where I stay. I do have problems at the Crowne Regency in Cebu City and I will explore other options this July.

I had three new suits made at my Tailor's in Davao City. All were expertly done of Armani silk. They were completed to my satisfaction in the time frame I requested. They even telephoned me a few times to inquire as to my specifications or to explain that the material was enough for only one extra pair of pants for each suit and offered possible solutions (I got the third suit at an even better price).

This goes a long ways from back when I was yelling at them, shaking my fists because they failed to have shirts for me completed on time. Got so bad that Bengy, the "fudge packer" manager, asked GoodEnough to accompany me on future visits because "he scares us, Sir". Now, I get VIP treatment and the prices for magnificent suits of Armani Silk is rediculously inexpensive. Quality is at least as good as what I used to get made in US for $ 2000-$2500.

I had to visit a Specialist in Davao for continuing health review/treatment since my illness last year. I was very well cared for and everyone was really nice. I took my Son and his older sister to a pediatrician in Davao a few weeks ago as both arrived in Davao ill. I waited as their mother took them in to see the Pediatrician and they were treated professionally and the cost, $10.25 US wass far more bearable than the $85 - $150 here in my US City.

I could go on but the point is that the Philippines has faults but the positive far outweighs the negative. This is even before we begin discussing $10 blowjobs from coeds needing tuition money.

Dragon Slayer

Piper1
06-04-09, 12:56
GoodEnough was in Thailand most of the tiime when I was in Davao. Pure coincidence, I'm sure. ;-)


Safe bet the ISG guys he met in Thailand fell short of the excitement and good times he has with Dragon Slayer. Don't worry. GE had a fantastic time in Thailand. Many fantastic times! GE is a great guy - worldly, smart, energetic, a great sense of humor, and knows how to enjoy life. Great to meet him.

One day I might post a report about the night GE and I played a practical joke on my pal during one of the nights we all went out on the town (involving 'ladies' of the night). I still laugh about it now, but my pal still hasn't recovered from being Punk'd by GE and me, and has sworn me to secrecy.

Dragon Slayer
06-05-09, 00:35
GoodEnough mentioned to me only that he met a couple ISG members in Thailand. He did NOT specify whom he met. My comment that he would have preferred my company was merely light humor. I was in Hong Kong when he returned to the Philippines. In numerous conversations on the internet or the 5-6 times I telephoned him, he failed to mention anyone he met in Thailand.

I again owe no one an explanation, but my previous post here was an attempt to interpret his extremely negative comments concerning life in the Philippines. I know for a fact, at least from what he recently related to me, that he can leave here fairly easily, should he so desire. If it is really so bad, why stay?

Personally, I like the Philippines and view it as a possible future second home. I am much too young to retire and never plan to do this. I want to maintain a home in the US and my home on Leyte. Anything else is uncertain.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
06-14-09, 05:59
Guys,

I checked again for R/T tickets to/from Hong Kong to Manila on Expedia.com. Got the exact $ 207.50 that I paid for my daughter's mother's ticket a month ago. I also checked into Hong Kong Hotels on hotelshongkong.com and I was totally surprised at the incredibly low prices offered. Then I looked on expedia.com and spotted equally low prices there for Hong Kong hotels.

Now Hong Kong is still expensive but if you are in the Philippines and would like to visit for 2-7 nights, this is the time. The Marco Polo in HK where I stayed last month also contacted me with a complimentary upgrade to a Superior Room at Deluxe Room rate and an extra night free if I stay for 2 nights. I wonder if they will again invite me to have a temporary Membership in their private club. For reasons unexplained (perhaps they liked my armani suit ?) to me, last Trip they gave me a corner suite with harbor views from livingroom and bedroom when I asked for us to be moved to a room with a view of the harbor. I got a Suite for the price of a Club Executive Room.

I advise no one to fly Cebu Pacific unless absolutely necessary. Also they have a checked baggage limit of like 10 kgs. I got charged an extra P1500 a month ago on my flight from Davao to Cebu, nearly doubling my Flight cost. I tried to purchase the ticket at a large Travel Agency across from MP. They told me they did not handle Cebu Pacific as the Airline will not pay a commission. I ended up waiting 2 hours at one of their ticket offices. I could have had the Marco Polo handle it but the girl there fucked it up last time resulting in my being detained 1 1/2 hours in the Airport line and having to buy a Second ticket. She had neglected to include my Ticket Purchase Receipt in the envelope she provided me and, as usual, Cebu Pacific's computers were offline, unable to verify I had bought a ticket for the Flight.

Upon my Return to Davao City, I got reimbursed for about 60% of the cost of the second ticket. I was too fucking tired to argue over the extra money. Hate that fucking Airline.

Dragon Slayer

Dodger Bulldog
07-14-09, 09:01
Guys,

I checked again for R/T tickets to/from Hong Kong to Manila on Expedia.com. Got the exact $ 207.50 that I paid for my daughter's mother's ticket a month ago.
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I advise no one to fly Cebu Pacific unless absolutely necessary. Also they have a checked baggage limit of like 10 kgs. I got charged an extra P1500 a month ago on my flight from Davao to Cebu, nearly doubling my Flight cost.I don't know much about economics, but I can work a calculator.

If 1500 pesos doubled your cost, it still only went from $31 to $62.

Yes, on Cebu Pacific the weight limits are tight (7kg, carry on, 15 kg checked) and no one likes add-ons at the gate. But you can prepurchase checked bags for 200 pesos, USD $4.15.

I bought a roundtrip from Hong Kong on Cebu which included a checked bag for $67. For myself, I can handle some minor annoyance to save the $140 difference from what you paid.

I just want to show the other side of the equation so that each one can decide for himself if he wants to pay extra to fly a different airline.

DB

Dragon Slayer
08-17-09, 15:40
Guys,

For years I have been using Xoom to send money to the Philippines. I had a glitch this past week that resulted in the Xoom Technical Staff freezing my Account. They failed to notify me of this, causing me to think my Bank or my Credit Cards were the problem. Calls to both informed that all was fine with then. A call Sunday to Xoom Customer Service resulted in my learning that Technical Staff "froze" my Account for unspecified reasons.

The Xoom Customer Service Sunday Staff had to be a bunch of pathetic "weekend warriors" telling me simply to AGAIN e-mail Technical Staff and WAIT for a reply. After 30 minutes I finally got a telephone number for Xoom Technical Staff BUT they work only Monday - Friday. The whole episode struck me as pathetic and my daughter's mother had been contacting me for days saying she needed P5600 for the Tuition for my Daughter and "adopted daughter: so they could take their mid-term exams on Monday.

I tried Western Union which I had used for many years until I found Xoom. Registering online I was informed I had to call their 800 number to get my Account approved. I waited on "hold" again and I got yet another mindless "weekend warrior". This one had to be braindead. After asking me a lot of personal questions to determine I really AM ME, she informed me I could NOT open an Account to send money since I was calling from an unlisted, private phone number, preventing her from determining that it was really my phone line. My cellphone would not work also as that, she surmised, was also unverifiable.

I asked what difference it made if I called from my home phone, my cellphone or the phone of Barack Obama. I was ME as she determined by asking every fucking personal question the *itch could think of and it was my credit card that was being use to wire the money, NOT Genghis Khan's!

I then went back online and got E Money Gram.com. I once more completed the tedious, online verification. Again, I was asked to telephone yet another "Sunday Monkey". But this time I first unlocked the security and privacy modes on my telephone. Got asked still more personal questions (age of my eldest sister, address I had an office at in 1990, etc;all but the lenght of my cock and I am sure that it is on the List somewhere).

This time I passed with "flying colors". I went back to their online Account and wired the funds. They were received within an hour and no trouble obtaining them. From when I first called Xoom Customer Service (on hold 15 minutes), until I finally established a New Account with E Money Gram and wired the funds was three hours and fifteen minutes! INSANE!

Obviously, past of my problem was dealing with Sunday part time and weekend freelance staff. They are there solely to pick up a few dollars of pocket money and could "give a tinker's fuck" if I got my wire transaction or ever used the Company again.

Does anyone know of an Inexpensive and Competent Company for wiring money quickly to the Philippines? Xoom worked for years but when their system gets screwed up it is not easy to resolve the issue.

Dragon Slayer

The Departed
08-18-09, 22:19
Guys,

For years I have been using Xoom to send money to the Philippines.

Dragon SlayerI know you manfully send money to support your kids. But what is the legal situation with that? If a British subject or American citizen is not sending money (to Thailand in this case), can the woman do anything to nail the asshole?

I like your posts and only occasionaly use xoom myself

Bob Bowie
08-19-09, 17:16
Guys,

For years I have been using Xoom to send money to the Philippines. I had a glitch this past week that resulted in the Xoom Technical Staff freezing my Account. They failed to notify me of this, causing me to think my Bank or my Credit Cards were the problem. Calls to both informed that all was fine with then. A call Sunday to Xoom Customer Service resulted in my learning that Technical Staff "froze" my Account for unspecified reasons.

Dragon SlayerI have used Western Union on line many times. It cost about $14 fee and the moneys is available for the Pinay almost immediately. You get an email informing you when she picks up the money.

Dragon Slayer
08-22-09, 16:01
The Departed,

Hi. I hope you are NOT abandoning a child you have in Southeast Asia. But to answer you question, No, there is no legal recourse for the Mother. She could never gain access to the grounds of either the US or British Embassy. I have been to the US Consulate in Bangkok and it is not easy gaining access through the iron gates. I was wearing a business suit, white, dress shirt and tie and I look and talk like an American Professional (contrary to Dragon Slayer) when in business attire. I was viewed as a fucking slimeball by the woman at the gate and ignored by the marine guards. I had to first produce my US Passport and then state my purpose for accessing American Territory before I was given access. Imagine a Thai woman showing up there to request child support.

AND unless Thai Law has changed in recent years, just as in the Philippines, the piece of shit father cannot be legally compelled to pay. However, I DO know of circumstances where the girl's brothers, Father, uncles and cousins went after the Father with unpleasant consequences. Remember my Post back in August 2004 on the original Davao Board (My First Board)? My daughter's young uncle got drunk and came to shoot me to death at 5AM(think he could have waited until 8AM at least) NOT for non support ( I was and still am giving plenty) but because he learned that I had other women besides my daughter's mother (a little variety doesn't hurt or does it?). You could never go anywhere near where the girl lived and I mean not with a fifteen kilometer radius.

Still words cannot describe the misery you cause when you IMPREGNATE AN ASIAN WOMAN AND ABANDON HER. This is a despicable act equal only to that of a fucking piece of shit getting a woman pregnant and then FORCING HER TO HAVE AN ABORTION.

This is particularly horrible in the Philippines where abortion is not only illegal but immoral and grounds for excommunication from the Catholic Church. I was deeply saddened to learn the number of suicides in the Philippines AND in the USA by women who have had abortions. For a man to commit either of the above two is BEYOND DESPICABLE.

Little Chucky, the Bone Collector (more skeletons in his closet than the County Morgue), in my city got a Korean girl I introduced him to pregnant years ago, and then abandoned her, referring to her as "nothing" and a "piece of shit". The Family asked me, Dragon Slayer, to kill Little Chucky (not a bad idea when you think of it). I told them that might just result in my arrest and incarceration and that they could handle this, with my assistance, through legal channels. First expose his actions (sex tours, abandoing a young Korean woman from a good family, etc). Bones would do ANYTHING to avoid this, including paying out thousands of dollars.

Sadly, they did not really comprehend this outlet and still believed my beating this cocksucker to death was the correct method. In a different time it mght work but not this one.

Dragon Slayer

The Departed
08-22-09, 18:19
No I am not the "proud father". The piece of shit in question is a British Indian and the lady in question is Thai. The baby in question was born in London and the papa signed the birth cert. She is now back in Thailand in a dead end job.

That makes the kid a British subject, I do believe. Now when the Yanks pulled out of Angeles and Vietnam, there were issues with kids left behind.

If the major powers value their citixens, subjects, then surely they should follow through on the most vulnerable.

I don't get this. A Brit or Yank can impregnate all round them and there are no legal comebacks.

Access to the Embassies has to be restricted because of the recent political climate. But access to justice should not.

I admire your posts and writing style. Nice collection of women too.

GoodEnough
08-23-09, 04:17
DS is wholly accurate. Unless a father acknowledges paternity, the woman has no recourse whatsoever. That this is both inequitable and immoral is beyond dispute, but it's US law. The mother cannot compel the putative father to undergo DNA testing, nor can she petition the US Government for any kind of action on her behalf. Thus, if some amoral expatriate seed spreaders decide to abandon their offspring, there's nothing the women can do legally.

The morality of abandoning a child that you created however, is another matter entirely. Filipinos of course consider such abandonment routine behavior, which accounts for the motivation of a large majority of bar girls and prostitutes doing what they do. I however would always hope for a higher standard of moral obligation from expatriates, though I've known of many who have abandoned their progeny without a second thought to the economic consequences.

As DS points out, abortion in the Philippines is illegal. No matter what your moral stance is on the procedure, the fact is that in the Philippines, though it's widely available, it's unsafe, performed by practitioners with highly questionable credentials, and thus highly risky. Simply put, it's not really a viable alternative if performed in the Philippines.

GE

Warbucks
08-23-09, 07:09
The Departed,

Hi. I hope you are NOT abandoning a child you have in Southeast Asia. But to answer you question, No, there is no legal recourse for the Mother. She could never gain access to the grounds of either the US or British Embassy. I have been to the US Consulate in Bangkok and it is not easy gaining access through the iron gates. I was wearing a business suit, white, dress shirt and tie and I look and talk like an American Professional (contrary to Dragon Slayer) when in business attire. I was viewed as a fucking slimeball by the woman at the gate and ignored by the marine guards. I had to first produce my US Passport and then state my purpose for accessing American Territory before I was given access. Imagine a Thai woman showing up there to request child support.

AND unless Thai Law has changed in recent years, just as in the Philippines, the piece of shit father cannot be legally compelled to pay. However, I DO know of circumstances where the girl's brothers, Father, uncles and cousins went after the Father with unpleasant consequences. Remember my Post back in August 2004 on the original Davao Board (My First Board)? My daughter's young uncle got drunk and came to shoot me to death at 5AM(think he could have waited until 8AM at least) NOT for non support ( I was and still am giving plenty) but because he learned that I had other women besides my daughter's mother (a little variety doesn't hurt or does it?). You could never go anywhere near where the girl lived and I mean not with a fifteen kilometer radius.

Still words cannot describe the misery you cause when you IMPREGNATE AN ASIAN WOMAN AND ABANDON HER. This is a despicable act equal only to that of a fucking piece of shit getting a woman pregnant and then FORCING HER TO HAVE AN ABORTION.

This is particularly horrible in the Philippines where abortion is not only illegal but immoral and grounds for excommunication from the Catholic Church. I was deeply saddened to learn the number of suicides in the Philippines AND in the USA by women who have had abortions. For a man to commit either of the above two is BEYOND DESPICABLE.

Little Chucky, the Bone Collector (more skeletons in his closet than the County Morgue), in my city got a Korean girl I introduced him to pregnant years ago, and then abandoned her, referring to her as "nothing" and a "piece of shit". The Family asked me, Dragon Slayer, to kill Little Chucky (not a bad idea when you think of it). I told them that might just result in my arrest and incarceration and that they could handle this, with my assistance, through legal channels. First expose his actions (sex tours, abandoing a young Korean woman from a good family, etc). Bones would do ANYTHING to avoid this, including paying out thousands of dollars.

Sadly, they did not really comprehend this outlet and still believed my beating this cocksucker to death was the correct method. In a different time it mght work but not this one.

Dragon SlayerDragon Slayer,

Nice post. I have realized it is guys out there who are just past caring (they have a it's her problem attitude) and it is nothing no one can do it about it.

Hogie4
08-24-09, 01:49
What the Slayer said is true, if your not stupid enough to sign the birth certificate and then not stupid enough to register the kid and receive US passport at the embassy where they will have you sign a paper saying you will support the kid until it is 18.

I've got 6 yrs still to pay. I know this because I was stupid on both counts. I had been with the mother off and on for 9 yrs . I really started getting ripped off after I signed those papers.

The Departed
08-24-09, 14:10
The British Indian signed the birth cert in London, where the child was born, She is now back in Pattatya, Thailand.

This makes the child a British subject, right? And if one is a British subject, one has rights in a British court, right?

She does have a case, right? But how to screw him is the problem.

Embassies should respond to correspondence they get and maybe feminist groups or sympathetic MPs could help. There must be a lot of these kids about. It would be good to screw at least one errant papa however.

Dragon Slayer
08-24-09, 15:25
Hogie4,

Why would you NOT support your own Child? And how the fuck can you live with yourself if you abandoned your own child? I will give your Little Chucky's (Bone Collector) Home, Office & CP#s. I have not spoken to the fucking loser in many years but as GE says, I have a unique memory and phone numbers, like names I seldom forget. You guys can commiserate together.

Registering your child at the US Embassy gives the child the Right to US Citenzenship and to Social Security payments in the unfortunate event the Father dies. It also provides considerable tax benefits for the Father. All of my children have my Family Name. This does a lot, including removing the stigma of illegitamacy.

GoodEnough and I were discussing this Topic by telephone. This IS part of the reason the two of us have nothing to do with a couple of guys from the ISG Boards that we both met. As I commented, if a guy thinks nothing of abandoning his own child, he would think nothing of ripping off another individual. The Kid's father never paid a dime of child support. And we are a Family full of individuals in Law Enforcement. Yes, he was arrested over a dozen times. Yes, he was sentenced to terms of from a few days to several weeks in jail. But he still found this preferable to supporting his own children.

Speaking solely for me, my children have been the BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO ME.

Dragon Slayer

Hogie4
08-25-09, 02:00
Your point is was that your not responsible legally unless you sign the birth certificate.

Which is true in PI , and I agreed with you , I was just trying to point out what can happen if you do sign the papers and try to be a good guy that you set yourself up to be taken advantage of. I know for a fact that most mongers are not as noble as you or I. Having lived in Makati from 1992-1998 so I've seen alot of expats slink off without signing/paying for anything.

My point was that if you sign the birth certificate and register at the embassy then you do not have the option of walking away. I never said that I wasn't paying or that I walked away. I pay for private school and 400 a month in support.

Nothing made me register my kid at the embassy but once I did that this women tried to rip me off in ways she hadn't in the previous 9 yrs. So I guess you missed my point.

Most people don't do what I did , they don't sign the birth certificate and they certainly don't register the kid at the embassy. So I don't get where your trying to make me the bad guy.

Jambo
09-24-09, 02:28
What I used for my greedy "inlaws", I opened an additional bank account within my account, and sent them the debit card. I would transfer some allowance monthly, and they could withdraw it, with some fee and loss to exchange rate of course. It helps to call/email the bank and tell them you are traveling in the PI. The card has my name on it, but it works.

You wouldn't want to do with with just anyone, of course.

My feeling is, if they aren't inlaws, they can life long enough for any Xoom glitch to be worked out.

Warbucks
09-24-09, 07:03
Your point is was that your not responsible legally unless you sign the birth certificate.

Which is true in PI, and I agreed with you, I was just trying to point out what can happen if you do sign the papers and try to be a good guy that you set yourself up to be taken advantage of. I know for a fact that most mongers are not as noble as you or I. Having lived in Makati from 1992-1998 so I've seen alot of expats slink off without signing/paying for anything.

My point was that if you sign the birth certificate and register at the embassy then you do not have the option of walking away. I never said that I wasn't paying or that I walked away. I pay for private school and 400 a month in support.

Nothing made me register my kid at the embassy but once I did that this women tried to rip me off in ways she hadn't in the previous 9 yrs. So I guess you missed my point.

Most people don't do what I did, they don't sign the birth certificate and they certainly don't register the kid at the embassy. So I don't get where your trying to make me the bad guy.People make mistakes and men especially when hard dicks and wet pussies are involved. If a guy made a mistake and got one of those girls pregnant then IMHO one would be obligated to give the girl some type of support but I agree with 100% don't give her the opportunity to sick the law on you by signing documents especially if she has nothing (no education, poverty stricken). I am not even 30 but I plan on getting clipped to prevent these mistakes and no I do not have children.

Amavida
09-24-09, 14:22
For years I have been using Xoom to send money to the Philippines. I had a glitch this past week that resulted in the Xoom Technical Staff freezing my Account...Xoom Sucks


The Xoom Customer Service Sunday Staff had to be a bunch of pathetic "weekend warriors" telling me simply to AGAIN e-mail Technical Staff and WAIT for a reply. After 30 minutes I finally got a telephone number for Xoom Technical Staff BUT they work only Monday - Friday. The whole episode struck me as patheticAgreed Xoom really sucks. Stopped using them back in 2005 because of these all too frequent hassles with them.


I tried Western Union...WU is expensive!


Does anyone know of an Inexpensive and Competent Company for wiring money quickly to the Philippines?

Dragon SlayerIn my home country some of the local Filipino grocery stores have hook ups to the M LLulier money transfer agents in PI. These are as fast as WU but half the cost.

AV

Dragon Slayer
09-25-09, 01:43
Hogie4,

Thankyou for relating your experriences here, Pal.

Warbucks,

Hold off on the vasectomy. I spoke to a Surgeon Client of mine. Not a "sure thing" at all that they can rectify this at a later date. Consider other options for now as having your own children can be a very rewarding experience.

Amavida,

I cannot use Western Union to wire via internet due to having "encrypted my land line" to prevent security breaches or possible illicit scrutiny of my conversations via internet or telephone. And YES, Western Union is very expensive. I am unaware of any filipino stores here in my City. Used to be one about ten miles from my Home on the opposite side of the City (poor, high crime area). I am still seeking alternatives to Xoom.

Jambo,

Aside from my daughter's family, upper middle class filipinos, I would NOT trust any Family members to handle finances of any nature. When Rose had Conor I waited until the Hospital received her health insurance payment from her employer. Then I wired the money to GoodEnough and he paid the Hospital directly for me. Eliminated any hassle with her Family fucking up the entire process. GE told me Rose had no idea how the Hospital was to be paid. (you go to the Adminsitrative Office, get the bill, less insurance payment, from the computer and pay it! Get a receipt!).

When my Daughter's mother became seriously ill, I was home here. I wired a large sum of money for her Surgery and Hospital Bill but I sent it to my young Daughter. Conferred with her by cellphone. She personally picked up the money and brought it to her mother. An elder brother then paid it to the Hospital Admin Office directly.

I honestly believe that most filipinos, having never seen actual amounts of money before, know only one thing to do with it: SPEND IT QUICKLY. Instant gratification is EVERYTHING!

Dragon Slayer

Warbucks
09-25-09, 07:20
Hogie4, Thankyou for relating your experriences here, Pal.

Warbucks,

Hold off on the vasectomy. I spoke to a Surgeon Client of mine. Not a "sure thing" at all that they can rectify this at a later date. Consider other options for now as having your own children can be a very rewarding experience.Some people say there is joy to be found in fathering kids but I don't see it. 18 years and more if you take into account college tuition for the kid to give them a chance at a decent life. I see it as a money and time consuming task.

The time it takes to raise them properly and teach them to be a decent human being. Bonding you to the mother of the child for life. Yes you are bonded to the mother for life through that kid unless you do a runner. What if the mother is *****, what if she is a conniving money grubbing *****, what if she is dumb as box of rocks? You are stuck with her once she says she I am pregnant.

Lets say a kid will run you about $300 a month from birth to 18 years of age. Now $300 is a paltry sum but that comes out to about $64800. Add additional $300 to the typical poverty stricken Filipina (because now its like you have two kids) and now that sum comes out to $129,000. How many mongers have that type of money to give out to multiple women? Not many because SOGOs and the lowest fuck price possible seems to be the most desired accommodations if you read these boards.

I have a dear Filipina friend who is by all accounts rich. She owns a nice 4 bedroom condo in Tokyo (paid for in cash). Multiple upscale properties in PI.(paid for in cash) I have went to her on numerous occasions for investing advice in PI.

She went to Japan with nothing but the clothes on her back. She worked 2 and 3 jobs saved her money and invested wisely. Along the way she had some kids. One of her kids is in her early teens and runs the streets of Tokyo with 30 and up year old Japanese men doing who only knows what. The other kid he recently threw himself off a building.

Also while were on this subject what the fuck is up with Filipinos having so many kids in abstract poverty? My live in maid has nine kids. I pay her about 5000PHP ($106) a month. Her husband is some type of farmer. How the fuck are they feeding nine kids on this money? I told my ole lady that we may be letting her go soon because I like having my privacy and the woman was in tears because of her need of the job. I just don't understand it.

So while some call kids a bundle of joy I see them as something much more sinister.

Chocha Monger
09-25-09, 10:26
warbucks:

get yourself splayed and neutered as soon as possible. like you mentioned your child rearing experience is largely based upon the mother and itís really luck of the draw. you can end up having a kid with a woman who goes berserk later on if your relationship comes to an end. in that case you will be forced to deal with her psycho behavior until your child reaches adulthood. the other option will be supporting your child financially from afar and youíll have zero input on how those funds are actually spent. if you sign any documents like birth certificate and registration of the birth of a u.s. citizen abroad the childís mother will have you by the balls in and out of the philippines. of course, you should support your child but you shouldnít hand the mother a license to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and pillage. good intentions pave the way to hell. you canít fix one mistake with another. just because someone screwed up by busting a nut without protection in a womanís pussy doesnít mean he owes her his life. he has a duty to the child and thatís it. there are other ways to protect your childís future like establishing a trust and getting life insurance. of course, anyone who stands to gain from your death should not know about the existence of these provisions. donít give anyone a motive for your bringing about your demise. also, never let the government of any nation get involved in providing for your kid. you can always file citizenship papers for your kids just before they become adults to reduce the risk of the mother using them as tools against you.

poverty does strange things to people and extreme poverty does even stranger things. i have seen this over and over again. when a poor girl gets a cash cow she isnít just satisfied to milk it and live off milk, butter and cheese. she usually wants to milk then slaughter the cow because it producing milk fast enough in her mind. after a life of being destitute they want to feast. itís like over eating because you went a day or two without a meal. theyíll consume your flesh if you let them.

get your balls fixed! you wouldnít regret it. if you want an escape clause you can actually have some of your ball juice put on ice back in the us for a small fee. however, i donít recommend even doing this. clip your nuts and donít ever look back! i know a guy who had his nuts clipped after divorcing his crazy wife. he had three daughters with her and he was forever in and out of court. then he met another much younger woman and against the advice of everyone he married her. before the marriage he told her that he was fixed. she said it was okay and she didnít want kids of her own. a few months into the marriage she started pressuring him for a kid. he caved and had his ball sack slashed for a second time to reverse the procedure. meanwhile she was spending money like a drunken pirate driving him deep into debt. she had him on a strict regimen shooting nuts into her pussy every night. then he finally woke up one day and decided that it wasnít what he signed up for. he filed for divorce. the whole thing lasted less than a year.

you only have one life on this planet and youíre not coming back. live your life according to your dreams and aspirations. donít let a woman dictate a how a significant portion of your life is spent just because your dick had three spasms inside of her vagina in the absence of birth control. if you donít want kids donít have kids. more importantly, donít leave the possibility of having one by accident.

some guys have the fortitude to deal with baby mamas. they have the means of paying child support for those children and the time to be meaningfully involved in their lives. children bring joy and happiness to these guys and sometimes grief but at the end they always find it a rewarding experience overall. i have great respect for these gentlemen. anyone not having those qualities should opt out on reproduction.

poor people have a lot of kids for many reasons. for those in agriculture it is a way of providing free labor. for others it is a simple case of probability that at least a few of those kids will survive to adulthood and become successful. success can take many forms for the girls it can be marrying a rich foreigner who will wire money back to the parents. in the absence of government provided social security a large number of offspring becomes that security. itís like a pyramid scheme with the father being at the top.

p.s.

dragon slayer, i hope you don't mind us having this discussion in your thread.

regards,

cm

GoodEnough
09-25-09, 12:09
I think, like so much else in life, the decision on whether or not to have kids is intensely personal on the one hand, and ultimately depends on what you want out of life. I have three (American) kids--all extremely well-educated and doing very well. They're decent, intelligent and caring people. As Warbucks pointed out however, the cost--financial and emotional--of getting them to this point was extremely steep, but then again, so were the emotional rewards. It's a two way street and ultimately everyone has to decide for him/herself if the enormous cost of raising children (not only the financial cost, but the time commitment and the strain) is worth the joy that they can (but do not always) bring.

I think the decision not to have children is a perfectly rational and acceptable choice and in Warbucks' case it's a decision at which he appears to have arrived after reflecting on what he wants and needs out of life.

As to why the poor have numerous children, there are a number of factors. First, the catholic church, which wields enormous political power here, categorically refuses to allow the introduction of sex education into public schools. Thus, the country has one of the highest, if not the highest, birthrates in the world since poor people have no access to accurate family planning information. Middle class and more affluent Filipinos have the sense to ignore whatever drivel the church espouses on this subject and plan their families.

Another reason of course is that in this country, large families are seen as a sort of old age pension--as sources of income when the parents become too old or sick to work. The whole concept of "utang na loob" (the debt of the heart that can never be repaid) is drummed into young children together with mother's milk so they grow up believing it's their obligation in life to support their parents by whatever means necessary.

Third, since most of the population here is drastically un or at least under educated, there's not much value attributed to education and little thought given to the cost of raising children. Virtually no thoughts are wasted by the poor multitudes on parental obligations to provide quality education for their children and education per se, is not looked upon as having an economic, much less an intrinsic value. In this way, poverty becomes self-perpetuating and of course it's exacerbated by the dearth of social safety nets and government indifference to the plight of the poor.

Finally, I think Warbucks' estimate of the cost of raising children might be accurate here in the Philippines, but in the US it's a gross underestimation of the true cost of raising children in a middle class environment. Just the cost of a four-year Ivy League (or equivalent) education now in the US is about $150,000 and that's only for an undergraduate degree. Sending one of your children to a university here--unless the child wishes to remain here--is about as useless as a hind tit on a bull, so if you have kids here, you're almost certainly going to have to educate them abroad and it's going to cost you big time.

GE

Dragon Slayer
12-22-09, 00:39
Guys,

A good man is ONLY AS GOOD as his Equipment. For condoms, always have a few with you. Same for V (viagra). Buying condoms is fast and easy. Every hotel will have them at either the frontdesk or the gift shop. BUt if you are in some hovel or pension house and are in need of protection from diseases, you can buy them at pharmacies or CLubs. Any Club with women will have them Just inquire if you can purchase a few. Do this after you have bought at least one dring and one ladies drink. I have known cheap assed losers who would walk in off the street making this inquiry, never intending to patronize the Club ("well hell drinks cost P50 ($ 1.05) in there, too much for me").

The Club is only doing a patron a favor by selling him a few. So be polite and sit down and have a couple drinks. Hell, you might even enjoy yourself. End up using one co the condoms, provided complimentary, in the VIP with one of the ladies working there.

The Viagra requires a tiny bit more effort. In Manila head to Burgos St, off Makati Avenue, Makati City. On the streets you will encounter guys selling everything they believe a foreigner will buy (except pussy, which is readily available everywhere here). They will offer a four pack of 100mg Vaigra for 1,000 to 1,500 pesos. Tell them FUCK NO!. I pay P1,000 ($ 21) for six (6) four packs of 100mg here. I do this every time I am in Makati for the last five years. Once I got a second seven four packs for 1,000 after buying the initial six. Stock up here.

If you miss buying V in Manila, your next stop is Cebu. Go to Fuente Osmena (circle) during the day. Around Rose's Pharmacy guys will be selling V and you should ger five, four packs for 1,000 pesos. Slightly more than Manila but still rediculously inexpensive. If night falls, go to either Silver Dollar on Osmena south of the circle or Exotica Club on General Maxilom Street across from the other Clubs. Here the price is a bit more. P 1,000 for one, four pack at SiIver Dollar and a little less at Exotica. But you can buy your provisions. In the Provinces it is very difficult to purchase. First you need a prescription and then you go to a pharmacy and hope they keep it in stock (most do not; things being the way they are here, filipinos cannot afford it). You will most likely pay 550 -850 pesos per tablet. Way too much, but again, if you want a "stiff dick" worth it just the same.

Dragon Slayer

Zootsuite
12-22-09, 15:18
Guys,

A good man is ONLY AS GOOD as his Equipment. For condoms, always have a few with you. Same for V (viagra). Buying condoms is fast and easy. Every hotel will have them at either the frontdesk or the gift shop. BUt if you are in some hovel or pension house and are in need of protection from diseases, you can buy them at pharmacies or CLubs. Any Club with women will have them Just inquire if you can purchase a few. Do this after you have bought at least one dring and one ladies drink. I have known cheap assed losers who would walk in off the street making this inquiry, never intending to patronize the Club ("well hell drinks cost P50 ($ 1.05) in there, too much for me").

The Club is only doing a patron a favor by selling him a few. So be polite and sit down and have a couple drinks. Hell, you might even enjoy yourself. End up using one co the condoms, provided complimentary, in the VIP with one of the ladies working there.

The Viagra requires a tiny bit more effort. In Manila head to Burgos St, off Makati Avenue, Makati City. On the streets you will encounter guys selling everything they believe a foreigner will buy (except pussy, which is readily available everywhere here). They will offer a four pack of 100mg Vaigra for 1,000 to 1,500 pesos. Tell them FUCK NO!. I pay P1,000 ($ 21) for six (6) four packs of 100mg here. I do this every time I am in Makati for the last five years. Once I got a second seven four packs for 1,000 after buying the initial six. Stock up here.

If you miss buying V in Manila, your next stop is Cebu. Go to Fuente Osmena (circle) during the day. Around Rose's Pharmacy guys will be selling V and you should ger five, four packs for 1,000 pesos. Slightly more than Manila but still rediculously inexpensive. If night falls, go to either Silver Dollar on Osmena south of the circle or Exotica Club on General Maxilom Street across from the other Clubs. Here the price is a bit more. P 1,000 for one, four pack at SiIver Dollar and a little less at Exotica. But you can buy your provisions. In the Provinces it is very difficult to purchase. First you need a prescription and then you go to a pharmacy and hope they keep it in stock (most do not; things being the way they are here, filipinos cannot afford it). You will most likely pay 550 -850 pesos per tablet. Way too much, but again, if you want a "stiff dick" worth it just the same.

Dragon SlayerIs it ok to buy viagra from those streetmongers around Osmena?

How can I be sure itīs the right stuff -?

Dragon Slayer
12-23-09, 04:43
Zootsuite,

I purchased viagra three times from the guys selling it around Robinson's and in front of Rose's Pharmacy and the pizza place, all at Fuente Osmena. THe first time I did not think it worked. I gave it to an american friend of mine here in my City and never heard him complain about it. The last two times it worked fine. I paid 1,000 pesos for four (4) or five (5) "four packs". I had no side effects either.

I cannot think of any way of being certain you get what you want except trying it. The boxes say Phizer and viagra just like the real thing. Same with the 100mg blue tabs which read "viagra 100 mg" on them exactly as the genuine item selling for $ 10+ per tab. I normally purchase it in Makati on Burgos St as the guys all know me after five years buying it there. Always had good results.

Dragon Slayer

Ben2
12-23-09, 09:46
As to why the poor have numerous children, there are a number of factors. First, the catholic church, which wields enormous political power here, categorically refuses to allow the introduction of sex education into public schools. Thus, the country has one of the highest, if not the highest, birthrates in the world since poor people have no access to accurate family planning information. Middle class and more affluent Filipinos have the sense to ignore whatever drivel the church espouses on this subject and plan their families. GEI'll add my. 02 worth. The church refuses to allow. Because these priests' are also mongering and you can bet. Many Filipinas have given birth to many Priests' children over the centuries. Obviously the Church's teachings are NOT working! The majority are NOT following the Church! Pray Sunday morning and come afternoon. Out playing around!

Hairy Wonder
12-27-09, 22:14
I have to agree with GE on this subject. This is a very personal decision to make. And what might be right for some, will not always be right for others. DS made the choice to keep his balls in tact, and deal properly with any outcome of that decision. A very honorable position to take. Warbucks has decided he does not want the obligation of children, and I feel that is his decision to make.

I have 2 teenagers, that are living with me, in accordance with the divorce decree from my Korean ex-wife of almost 22 years. Since I have custody, I am severely limited in my social interaction with the young Filipinas that I want to be with for now. However, I am also free of a crazy Korean b*tch that would try to take every penny I earn if she had custody.

On my first (really the only) mongering trip to the PI, I met a girl from one of the clubs on P. Burgos Street, Makati. She offered to come to my hotel on her day off. I figured she would come there, fuck me a time or three, and leave the next morning. But I could not get rid of her. She insisted on staying with me until my flight 2 days later. Of course this meant that I was paying not only for her pussy, but her bar fine, food, and bar hopping as well. She even took me into the bar she worked at, and left me hanging as 5 or 6 of the other girls mobbed me. After I left the PI, she would chat with me, after a week or two, she asked "What if I told you I am pregnant?" I told her to immediately find someplace to have an abortion. This is something I would not do, if I knew that mine was the only dick that had been inside of her. But this was obviously not the case, as she had considerable knowledge and skills in the bed. If I picked up a girl from a shopping mall, or from an online contact, I might choose to support the resulting pregnancy and the child. But I will not be forced to support a kid that might very well be the offspring of another mongerer. And who knows? The mother of that kid might be pulling a scam on several guys, saying to each "you are the father" in order to get monthly payments from all of them.

I'm all for supporting the kids that I know I have produced. I have one cooking in the oven as we speak, with a fun little Filipina that I have spent the last 2 or 3 years fucking. However, we are not on speaking terms right now, because she has turned into a crazy ***** (that side of her has been in remission, but I always knew it was there.) I know for a fact that the baby is mine, and I fully intend to support it. But I don't think I will be signing any papers or seeing the mother any more. And I have also made the same decision that Warbucks has made. Enough is enough! I will have myself clipped in order to be able to enjoy our hobby without the worry of producing more kids.

HW

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Marconista
12-28-09, 02:11
If I may add to this; You must make sure you get the International Size of condoms.
One time my baggage was delayed and I had to buy at a 7/11. Did not notice, but too small and painful to use.

However - international hotels, such as Shangri-La, have suitable size for most westerners. No pun intended.


Guys,

A good man is ONLY AS GOOD as his Equipment. For condoms, always have a few with you.

Redman69
01-05-10, 23:32
H.W. I had mine clipped, Am happy to know that I will not be raiseing a third. Got my two in the house as you do. I married a crazy Pinoy BBBBIIIICTH. In time I have learned they are all that way. Even the two I am raiseing. Can live with out them. But sure don't have to make more.

Dragon Slayer
10-31-10, 20:22
Guys,
'
This last Trip I spent my last two days with my baby daughter and her mother in Makati. As such, I neglected to pick up extra viagra. Result, I got home to fine that my pal here who watches my home had relieved me of what I had left behind.

I went online to a site my other pal uses and bought some viagra four weeks ago. It is now waiting for me at the US Post Office. It was to arrive within ten days of ordering as I paid for express shipping. Instead I got barraged with phone calls by guys with middle eastern names and accents wanting more information. I finally, sick of this harrassment, told the one to "fuck off"! I then contacted my credit card company to cancel the order.

Fuck, I am going to the Phils this week. No need for it now. I can buy all I need in Makati on burgos street for one tenth what it cost me to buy online here in the USA. And, I will NOT have to deal with Hosni or Achmad or Benji calling me at 7:00PM on a saturday night here as I am on my way out to dinner. These cocksuckers have no idea and no concern about privacy.

Meanwhile, the assholes, not wanting to lose a sale, went ahead and sent me the viagra after three fucking weeks telephoning me to discuss the order. All it took was my, "listen asshole, stop fucking calling me at night here you pathetic piece of shit". That had the effect of them sending my order out immediately. No more fucking calls and no "questions" about my order.

Only problem is I no longer need it. I will purchase six (6) four packs of viagra in Makati for 1,000 pesos ($22.70). A far cry from the $ 99.00 these pathetic hustlers charged me four (4) weeks ago. And I still have not received it BUT I DID get a good 25-30 phone calls from middle eastern accented individuals calling me by a Name than no one who knows me would EVER fucking address me. Guess these dickheads were trying to be "buddy buddy" with me. DID NOT WORK!

Dragon Slayer

Patricio1974
10-31-10, 21:49
Guys,
'
This last Trip I spent my last two days with my baby daughter and her mother in Makati. As such, I neglected to pick up extra viagra. Result, I got home to fine that my pal here who watches my home had relieved me of what I had left behind.

I went online to a site my other pal uses and bought some viagra four weeks ago. It is now waiting for me at the US Post Office. It was to arrive within ten days of ordering as I paid for express shipping. Instead I got barraged with phone calls by guys with middle eastern names and accents wanting more information. I finally, sick of this harrassment, told the one to "fuck off"! I then contacted my credit card company to cancel the order.

Fuck, I am going to the Phils this week. No need for it now. I can buy all I need in Makati on burgos street for one tenth what it cost me to buy online here in the USA. And, I will NOT have to deal with Hosni or Achmad or Benji calling me at 7:00PM on a saturday night here as I am on my way out to dinner. These cocksuckers have no idea and no concern about privacy.

Meanwhile, the assholes, not wanting to lose a sale, went ahead and sent me the viagra after three fucking weeks telephoning me to discuss the order. All it took was my, "listen asshole, stop fucking calling me at night here you pathetic piece of shit". That had the effect of them sending my order out immediately. No more fucking calls and no "questions" about my order.

Only problem is I no longer need it. I will purchase six (6) four packs of viagra in Makati for 1,000 pesos ($22.70). A far cry from the $ 99.00 these pathetic hustlers charged me four (4) weeks ago. And I still have not received it BUT I DID get a good 25-30 phone calls from middle eastern accented individuals calling me by a Name than no one who knows me would EVER fucking address me. Guess these dickheads were trying to be "buddy buddy" with me. DID NOT WORK!

Dragon SlayerHey DS,

thanks a lot, I used to think they give max 4 4-packs for 1000. Now I know what deal to make the next time I go to burgos street to buy some help.

Dragon Slayer
11-16-10, 07:19
Guys,

After the trouble buying over internet in US I stocked up on viagra when i9n Makati. First time I bought 6, 4 pack for P 1000. Following afternoon I returned and told the guy I would only pay 1000 pesos for 7 four packs or no deal. He agreed and we made the transaction. Wicked Roger was with me and bought 7 four packs of cialis for 1000 after my purchase from the same guy as we stood on Buros St.

This took all of five minutes and was a lot simpler and much cheaper than buying via the internet.

Dragon Slayer

Member #4698
11-16-10, 13:41
Guys,

After the trouble buying over internet in US I stocked up on viagra when i9n Makati. First time I bought 6, 4 pack for P 1000. Following afternoon I returned and told the guy I would only pay 1000 pesos for 7 four packs or no deal. He agreed and we made the transaction. Wicked Roger was with me and bought 7 four packs of cialis for 1000 after my purchase from the same guy as we stood on Buros St.

This took all of five minutes and was a lot simpler and much cheaper than buying via the internet.

Dragon SlayerHi DS,

Good info here (as always), but I have a question: did you purchase the product in a pharmacy? And if so, which one.

I am bringing with me my own ST supply of C which I get with my Dr's prescription at Costco in the good old' USA. It costs a fortune, $18/pill. I know where to get more in Bangkok at my favorite pharmacy on soi 22 for around 200bt per box of 4, but I won't get to BKK until week 5 of my trip. So I will need to replenish by the time I get to Makati.

Dragon Slayer
11-17-10, 06:34
Natty,

It us bought on Burgos St. The guys come up to me and I tell them what I want and the price I am going to pay. After years buying here I have no trouble. To buy in a Pharmacy here will cost you from 550 -850 pesos per tablet. Pharmacies often do not stock it ( Davao for instance; my post 2 years ago in Davao board here).

Wicked Roger was with me. After I negotiated for seven (7) four packs of 100 mg viagra for 1000 pesos he followed with a request for 7 four packs of cialis for 1000 pesos. Divide 1000 by 43 to get the US $ price we paid. You should get at least 6 four packs for 1000 pesos and spend 2000 for 14 four packs and stock up.

I am done buying on the internet and I do NOT need the telephone pals from Indiaor the Middle East (Ahmad, Saleem, Ahmad, Kafhi etc).

Dragon Slayer

Member #4698
11-17-10, 14:50
I am done buying on the internet and I do NOT need the telephone pals from Indiaor the Middle East (Ahmad, Saleem, Ahmad, Kafhi etc).
Dragon SlayerDS, I tried the internet prescription business 2 times: my first and last time. Like you I made an initial purchase a few years ago (diazepam in my case) for a very low price. I think it was 100 (10mg) pills manufactured in India for $25. The product was legit, but I was immediately bombarded with junk email solicitations from every internet drug panhandler under the sun. Ok. I put my email blocker on and that was that. But then two months later, I get an unsolicited package in the mail from India with another 100 diazepam and a bill inside. I notified the outfit that I did not order these pills and would return them at their expense. A few more messages later; the issue was dropped and I kept the 2nd shipment free. But I really did not like being sent unsolicited stuff from third world countries for many reasons as you can imagine (9/11)!

Like you, I prefer not to conduct this kind of business over the internet. Fortunately I am in BKK once a year and can stock up on Vitamin C. I still have to supplement my domestic supply once in awhile at Costco with the outrageous U.S. pricing, but that is the cost of show business.

Tiger43
12-08-10, 06:49
I tried to find some nice girls over DIA, before travelling to the Philipines beg. Of next year. As far as I coud find out, behind the photos of pretty young women, are many cam2cam services and all kinds of scams. Can anybody report about good experiences on DIA and how to find them?

Thanks

Wicked Roger
12-08-10, 17:21
I tried to find some nice girls over DIA, before travelling to the Philipines beg. Of next year. As far as I coud find out, behind the photos of pretty young women, are many cam2cam services and all kinds of scams. Can anybody report about good experiences on DIA and how to find them?

ThanksAlways scammers and LBs and chubbies, hence C2C but I have had many a good slim shaved pinay from DIA and other sites so keep trying. On the other thread are hints and tips so try there but while it can be frustrating it is worthwhile. My Cebu favourite came that way.

Patience is a virtue even if you don't intend to be when you met them.

Brymor
12-08-10, 20:13
I tried to find some nice girls over DIA, before travelling to the Philipines beg. Of next year. As far as I coud find out, behind the photos of pretty young women, are many cam2cam services and all kinds of scams. Can anybody report about good experiences on DIA and how to find them?

ThanksI have been using DIA for several years with varying degrees of success. I totally rely on this site together with another fee paying site called International Cupid as I prefer not to use bars very often. I met my current long term gf from Cebu on DIA and I have been seeing her for the last few years. I have met innocent virgins, pros, semi pros, students needing extra money, single parents (many of these) needing some foreigner sugar daddy and surprisingly a large number of normal next door type girls who have a dream to marry a foreigner who will whisk them away from their life of poverty. I have had a large minority of girls who will not fuck on the first date, but who will often succumb on the second or third date. I have been scammed by a girl from Pagadian City who I chatted to for months and then kept the 2000 pesos I sent her to travel to CDO to meet me. Stupid girl would have gained far more than 2000 pesos if she had made the trip. The only one thing I have learnt with any certainty and DS has mentioned this in one of his posts, make sure you line up at least 10 to 12 (what you think are) reliable contacts. By reliable I mean girls that you have invested time chatting to on line and got to know properly. As sure as eggs are eggs you will be let down, no matter how much they promise to meet you and no matter how much they tell you they love you. Be prepared to send some money if you really like the girl and she lives a long way out of town, many of these girls are living in poverty and it is not always easy as we think for them to borrow a few hundred pesos. Of course if it is just one or two jeepney rides away then I would not send money, they can usually borrow the fare. I have met some very beautiful, honest and decent girls from DIA, potential marriage material and if you have a pulse you will not be disappointed with DIA. Yes DIA also has cam girls and lady boys and a few scammers, but these are easy to weed out. If I did not have DIA as a resource I would feel truly lost

Redman69
12-12-10, 04:26
Just got back. Met and chatted several DIA girls. Bedded most. As mentioned not allways the first date. Also had sent money to 4 or 5. Only lost out on one who said she was 16. The rest did meet me. But, I have to say. They all moved on. Would still text. But, while there went back to their lives. Did not stay around. There were 3 on different occasions I want to stay around.

So, DiA of cherry Blossom [never used myself] are great tools for lining up straight girls for meets. Virgins and non pros and students. But it can be a emotional rollercoaster. It was fun getting the first out of her drawers. But after awhile. It did get tireing. And then them wanting space to watch cartoons. Well that is another subject.

Sometimes a plan old wg with a set price and deal can be fun. I have not found a non-pro yet who gives a good massage. With a pro, you can turn off the phone, the tv and say give me a massage. I can tell you that has its benifits also.

But, would I do internet serches next trip? Damm right.

Tiger43
12-12-10, 10:59
Just got back. Met and chatted several DIA girls. Bedded most. As mentioned not allways the first date. Also had sent money to 4 or 5. Only lost out on one who said she was 16. The rest did meet me. But, I have to say. They all moved on. Would still text. But, while there went back to their lives. Did not stay around. There were 3 on different occasions I want to stay around.

So, DiA of cherry Blossom [never used myself] are great tools for lining up straight girls for meets. Virgins and non pros and students. But it can be a emotional rollercoaster. It was fun getting the first out of her drawers. But after awhile. It did get tireing. And then them wanting space to watch cartoons. Well that is another subject.

Sometimes a plan old wg with a set price and deal can be fun. I have not found a non-pro yet who gives a good massage. With a pro, you can turn off the phone, the tv and say give me a massage. I can tell you that has its benifits also.

But, would I do internet serches next trip? Damm right. Thank you very much Mr Red- and Mortman,

That gives me hope! I've been chatting with a really nice and cute girl (student 20 years old) from a broken family for one month. Never asked for money, until tonight, when she needed a "loan" for her tuition. I almost believe her and I would not mind the small amount, if I knew about the risks of her not showing up, when I want to meet her beg of next year. So now I know, most of the girls are real, just need a little "help". Why not, I need it too (I am 67)?

Redman69
12-13-10, 01:48
Tiger I am 55 and need the V to keep up with it all.

There are lots of storys.

I have to say. Having been maried to pi girl. There is no such thing as a loan. It goes in one direction only. I have never got a check or western union in twenty years. I quit calling them loans 18 years ago. They are gifts that are for a good cause. If you can afford it. Then does so becasue you want to give the little darling something. Make sure you feel good about it.

Red Kilt
12-13-10, 03:01
.

That gives me hope! I've been chatting with a really nice and cute girl (student 20 years old) from a broken family for one month. Never asked for money, until tonight, when she needed a "loan" for her tuition. I almost believe her and I would not mind the small amount, if I knew about the risks of her not showing up, when I want to meet her beg of next year. So now I know, most of the girls are real, just need a little "help". Why not, I need it too (I am 67)? Tiger.

I have a fixed rule. I tell them nicely that I have a rule to NEVER send money until I have met them in person.

They accept this quite well. And it shows that you are not a soft touch.

The girls laugh at guys who send money to them even though they have never met. And if you do send money it reinforces their belief that we have so much money that we are willing to just give it away to strangers we meet on the net.

Would you honestly expect anyone you met on the net to send you money if you asked for it. You are 67 and she is 20. She is playing you as a desperate soft touch. Sorry to be harsh but think about it!

Believe me. There is NO NEED to send money in advance. She will still meet you if ever you come for a visit, and she will appreciate you more since she now knows that you are not an "easy pushover"

Rather remarkably, she will also find an alternative source of funds if you say NO.

Tiger43
12-13-10, 07:36
Tiger.

I have a fixed rule. I tell them nicely that I have a rule to NEVER send money until I have met them in person.

They accept this quite well. And it shows that you are not a soft touch.

The girls laugh at guys who send money to them even though they have never met. And if you do send money it reinforces their belief that we have so much money that we are willing to just give it away to strangers we meet on the net.

Believe me. There is NO NEED to send money in advance. She will still meet you if ever you come for a visit, and she will appreciate you more since she now knows that you are not an "easy pushover"

Would you honestly expect anyone you met on the net to send you money if you asked for it. You are 67 and she is 20. She is playing you as a desperate soft touch. Sorry to be harsh but think about it!

Rather remarkably, she will also find an alternative source of funds if you say NO. Dear Red Kilt.

Thanks for your good advice! You are absolutely right and you must be Scottish, according to your name. One more reason to listen to you, because I am not rich and I cannot throw around with money either. I already spent some on a really lousy cam2cam show (youporn is free and 1000 times better) , together with some chatting and wild stories. I did not believe anyting the DIA-camgirls told me, but was curious. Apart from that I sent some tuition money to the one girl only, I have been chatting with for a whole month. I had a lot of fun with her, so the girl already earned her money. Maybe her story is even true. Then there are 2 possibilities: she is grateful and gives me a good time when I meet her in Davao or General Santos next year and she will stay with me, as long as she expects more from me. I just cannot afford to continue with my generous behaviour forever. Then she will leave me and I will meet another DIA-girl, or relax on my own for a while. 2nd choice: the "tuition" money I sent her, was all she wanted from me and she is already looking for another victim with her "true story" (true of course, but not her own) , but why then has she not asked for money earlier, why wait for one month? Some girls (and / or their greedy families/"aunts"/"mamas" asked for a "loan" after a few chats. I blocked the girls immediately). I will report about my experiences soon. From now on I will continue with my search your way!

Tiger43
12-13-10, 07:39
Tiger.

I have a fixed rule. I tell them nicely that I have a rule to NEVER send money until I have met them in person.

They accept this quite well. And it shows that you are not a soft touch.

The girls laugh at guys who send money to them even though they have never met. And if you do send money it reinforces their belief that we have so much money that we are willing to just give it away to strangers we meet on the net.

Would you honestly expect anyone you met on the net to send you money if you asked for it. You are 67 and she is 20. She is playing you as a desperate soft touch. Sorry to be harsh but think about it!

Believe me. There is NO NEED to send money in advance. She will still meet you if ever you come for a visit, and she will appreciate you more since she now knows that you are not an "easy pushover"

Rather remarkably, she will also find an alternative source of funds if you say NO. Dear Red Kilt.

Thanks for your good advice! You are absolutely right and you must be Scottish, according to your name. One more reason to listen to you, because I am not rich and I cannot throw around with money either. I already spent some on a really lousy cam2cam show (youporn is free and 1000 times better) , together with some chatting and wild stories. I did not believe anyting the DIA-camgirls told me, but was curious. Apart from that I sent some tuition money to the one girl only, I have been chatting with for a whole month. I had a lot of fun with her, so the girl already earned her money. Maybe her story is even true. Then there are 2 possibilities: she is grateful and gives me a good time when I meet her in Davao or General Santos City next year and she will stay with me, as long as she expects more from me. I just cannot afford to continue with my generous behaviour forever. Then she will leave me and I will meet another DIA-girl, or relax on my own for a while. 2nd choice: the "tuition" money I sent her, was all she wanted from me and she is already looking for another victim with her "true story" (true of course, but not her own) , but why then has she not asked for money earlier, why wait for one month? (Some girls and / or their greedy families/"aunts"/"mamas" asked for a "loan" after a few chats. I blocked the girls immediately). I will report about my experiences soon. From now on I will continue with my search your way!

Dragon Slayer
12-16-10, 10:42
Guys,

I am still sick with fever and have not gotten to the Forum. I did not realize we had all this activity in this Board. Now with Christmas almost here ladies will spend countless hours online asking for money from foreigners. DO NOT SENT ANY OF THEM ANYTHING. I did so last year to supposedly help out Ceresfe whom I met and fucked in Davao over a year earlier. I gave her $ 80 for her children. She told me she had twins but did not mention the third child or the husband. As notel last February she refused to meet me in Davao when I was there in January. Cam, e online again to try to "make nice" with me last June. I have ignored her and I think she may have finally given up.

I also sent money to two ladies in Manila to get dresses and passports to see me and possibly go with me to Hong Kong when I was there in December / January. Neither one got the passport or had a dress made! Both told me they had and just thought they could "work around it" with me when I was there last December.

I am seldom online now except for work. I ignore all requests for money. To be noted is that the Mothes of me last three children (my ledest Son, Daniel, Son, Conor and infant Daughter, Devinia) never asked me for money until they were several months pregnant with my baby. Nothing during the time we were seeing and having great sex!

Dragon Slayer

Tiger43
12-16-10, 13:36
Guys,

I am still sick with fever and have not gotten to the Forum. I did not realize we had all this activity in this Board. Now with Christmas almost here ladies will spend countless hours online asking for money from foreigners. DO NOT SENT ANY OF THEM ANYTHING. I did so last year to supposedly help out Ceresfe whom I met and fucked in Davao over a year earlier. I gave her $ 80 for her children. She told me she had twins but did not mention the third child or the husband. As notel last February she refused to meet me in Davao when I was there in January. Cam, e online again to try to "make nice" with me last June. I have ignored her and I think she may have finally given up.

I also sent money to two ladies in Manila to get dresses and passports to see me and possibly go with me to Hong Kong when I was there in December / January. Neither one got the passport or had a dress made! Both told me they had and just thought they could "work around it" with me when I was there last December.

I am seldom online now except for work. I ignore all requests for money. To be noted is that the Mothes of me last three children (my ledest Son, Daniel, Son, Conor and infant Daughter, Devinia) never asked me for money until they were several months pregnant with my baby. Nothing during the time we were seeing and having great sex!

Dragon SlayerThank you too, Dragon Slayer,

I will be on my watch, but until now there is no reason to have any doubts about the girl to whom I sent a little tuition money, so she could take her exam. If it is all fake, the girl is extremely clever, then she earned her money for inventing and remembering all those little details and continuing with her story, even after she had got her desperately needed tuition. I am grateful for the replies of you guys, because then I will not mind the loss in the end. If I am lucky and everything is true, it will be like winning the jackpot, because the girl is something special, a diamond in the rough. I would not have the chance even getting near to anyone like her in my country. For one month I have had the best chats of my whole life with her. Still if she starts asking for more, before we have met in person, that will be the end of it.

Wicked Roger
12-17-10, 05:35
Thank you too, Dragon Slayer,

I will be on my watch, but until now there is no reason to have any doubts about the girl to whom I sent a little tuition money, so she could take her exam. If it is all fake, the girl is extremely clever, then she earned her money for inventing and remembering all those little details and continuing with her story, even after she had got her desperately needed tuition. I am grateful for the replies of you guys, because then I will not mind the loss in the end. If I am lucky and everything is true, it will be like winning the jackpot, because the girl is something special, a diamond in the rough. I would not have the chance even getting near to anyone like her in my country. For one month I have had the best chats of my whole life with her. Still if she starts asking for more, before we have met in person, that will be the end of it. T43.

Am happy you are cool with the situation. My philiosophy has been don't give what you can't afford to lose. Small amount asre nothing but can be very irritating once you realsied the lady was not entirely truthful.

As for commnet "I would not have the chance even getting near to anyone like her in my country" I would agree. You try chatting up an 18 year old in the west and at our age you will considered seriuosly warped or worse. There was the news article from Germany recently about a father castrating the 57 year old boyfriend of his 17 year ol daughter. Proof of the lack of enlightenment. He did because he felt it was not "right". Come to PI it is alwys right and that why I love the country. Well the ladies.

Red Kilt
12-18-10, 06:13
For one month I have had the best chats of my whole life with her. Still if she starts asking for more, before we have met in person, that will be the end of it.T43.

No need to be that drastic in saying "that will be the end of it". As all of us have said to you, just be wary about sending money to someone whom you have NEVER MET.

If she starts tapping you for some more, then that's when you let her know that there is no more until you have met. Quite frankly, she will not be surprised by this; in fact, she will be impressed that you are not a rug for her to walk all over.

Hang in there. She could be a jewel.

Tiger43
12-18-10, 07:46
T43.

Am happy you are cool with the situation. My philiosophy has been don't give what you can't afford to lose. Small amount asre nothing but can be very irritating once you realsied the lady was not entirely truthful.

As for commnet "I would not have the chance even getting near to anyone like her in my country" I would agree. You try chatting up an 18 year old in the west and at our age you will considered seriuosly warped or worse. There was the news article from Germany recently about a father castrating the 57 year old boyfriend of his 17 year ol daughter. Proof of the lack of enlightenment. He did because he felt it was not "right". Come to PI it is alwys right and that why I love the country. Well the ladies. Thank you all for your very useful information! As I am really German, I can give at least some information about the sex-situation in Germany for old men like me (67 but still strong) : in the big cities and more so in their centers nobody will be bothering you, if you have a young gf or mistress. It has been part of our culture for many centuries. For those who could afford it, preferably for the higer clergy and the nobility. Not long ago even I, not being rich at all, had gfs half my age and for free, but those "girls" have become too old for my taste! I would have to "chat up" their daughters (soon granddaughters) now, which they obviously would not like at all. It is also not part of the separated youth culture (about 12. 24) , having an old bf. This would mean, that at my age a young girl in Germany will only go with me, because of a financial advantage. I can afford that situation in some Asian countries, but not in Germany. That is also the reason, why Germany will never become a mongering destination, even though the laws are still quite liberal.

Redman69
12-20-10, 16:00
i know they are for pay. but, i have heard the sites are something else.

on my last trip to cebu, i met and beded the same night a 19 year old sales clerk. she had just got off work. that would not happen hear. i sent money to a 20 year old student. 100. 00 us who met me. gave it up left and never asked for a thing. i met a 20 college grad who i sent 100. 00 spend 3 nights with her off and on. got it the 2nd night. so, this is what cebu has to offer. and you are right that you and i can not afford the same thing in our countrys.

let me say, though. at 55 i did get tired of the 20 year olds. watching cartoons. texting all the time. no blow jobs. hell most had never had sex in a bed. just standing up between buildings. i did get tired of all the emontional stuff. they were all late except one. more no shows after the first time than i care to talk about.

so, i am saying it is gfe country, you can meet a bar girl. say no texting, all night. take her to the beach. and even say could you give me a massage. or of course you two can fall in love and you can start a new family again. the 20 year old has a sister 24 or so married to a german guy your age. and they lost the first baby but are trying agin. he has bought a house that they will use as a boarding house. in cebu, you will find many who have started all over again. and they look happy.

actually there is a board called living in cebu. and i would say 50% are mongers like us who have settled down. and the old ladys are on the board also. so, watch you [CodeWord133] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord133) there. but, if you are interested in seeing that life it is free or donation. i prefer being here as we are a bunch of dirty old men. but, if i were to settle down i would spend my time there.

hope you have a good trip. my grandad was half german. we were mullers at one time. i think we becaome millers aroudn 1916. merry christmas

GoodEnough
12-21-10, 00:05
I think it's more likely than not that the story of the girl with whom Tiger43 has been chatting is true. Unless you live here, or at least stay for longer periods and have occasion to visit some of these communities in the "real" Philippines, it's easy to misunderstand how desperately poor are the families from which many of these young women come. I'm about Tiger's age, and I've had the opportunity during my working life to live and work in dozens of developing countries, so I'm no stranger to seeing extreme poverty. But the situation here in the Philippines, for the third or so of the population living at or below the poverty line ($2 a day) , is as deplorable as I've seen anywhere on the planet.

Given the wholly inadequate system of public education, the pitiful performance of the economy that produces few jobs, and the overwhelming corruption of politicians and government employees, it's commendable that these girls are determined to try to make something better of their lives.

I know that lots of the guys who come here for brief vacations don't really care about understanding the true socio-economic conditions here, and I'm not suggesting that they should. The fact is however, that, in the case of many of these girls-whether met online or in bars-there's a history of extreme poverty, enormous families, primitive living-that is a history of need. Understanding the context even a little, might put some of the endless tragic stories we all hear into some sort of perspective.

I'm not trying to preach here, just to share the perspective of one who travels frequently to some of the communities in which many of these ladies were raised.

GE

Tiger43
01-07-11, 15:56
I think it's more likely than not that the story of the girl with whom Tiger43 has been chatting is true. Unless you live here, or at least stay for longer periods and have occasion to visit some of these communities in the "real" Philippines, it's easy to misunderstand how desperately poor are the families from which many of these young women come. I'm about Tiger's age, and I've had the opportunity during my working life to live and work in dozens of developing countries, so I'm no stranger to seeing extreme poverty. But the situation here in the Philippines, for the third or so of the population living at or below the poverty line ($2 a day) , is as deplorable as I've seen anywhere on the planet.

Given the wholly inadequate system of public education, the pitiful performance of the economy that produces few jobs, and the overwhelming corruption of politicians and government employees, it's commendable that these girls are determined to try to make something better of their lives.

I know that lots of the guys who come here for brief vacations don't really care about understanding the true socio-economic conditions here, and I'm not suggesting that they should. The fact is however, that, in the case of many of these girls-whether met online or in bars-there's a history of extreme poverty, enormous families, primitive living-that is a history of need. Understanding the context even a little, might put some of the endless tragic stories we all hear into some sort of perspective.

I'm not trying to preach here, just to share the perspective of one who travels frequently to some of the communities in which many of these ladies were raised.

GEGE, thanks a lot for your interest,

At the moment, I suspect, that it was a scam, but I am not 100% sure, so I do not yet want to give details here. I any other guy is chatting with a girl in GSC and has doubts, he can pm me. Maybe it is the same person or family?

Dragon Slayer
01-09-11, 09:35
Guys,

I have been ill for a few weeks and online solely for work. I hope to head to the Phils shortly and catch up with GoodEnough then.

Make it a rule to never give money to a girl that you have not met in person. This makes a lot of sense. I always say that I cannot send money until I have met in person. I am tired of getting ripped off by filipinas hustling online for money. Most of these women are working dozens of foreign men. Some ever hundreds. Filipinas I know tell me of girls in their Barangay or School who are online daily meeting foreigners in various sites and asking them for money. The way it works is simply that the more men you ask, sooner or later you will get a few who will send you $ 40. $ 100; a large amount of money for these women.

Remember that no matter what they tell you, most of these young women have Filipino boyfriends their own age. This IS a Fact! Don't be naieve of a dumbshit and think they have become "totally enamored" with you after chatting online. You have to be verry foolish to think this. Remember when we were young and in school. The hot looking, young women in scholl were all seeing guys from school or where they lived. It is no different here.

What we have going for us is $$$ and the offer of a much better life than they have now. The Filipino boyfriend cannot give them this. Add that most filipinos look to their women for money and help while fucking everything in sight, and you can add that many of us will treat them far better than they have ever been treated before. This is what I hear most from the young ladies. Staying in an elegant hotel, drinking real, magnificent champagne and getting chocolates as gifts; they have never experienced this before. The cute one in the Cebu photos commented to me" thankyou for such a wonderful evening. I have never been to dining in an elegant restaurant before." ANd it was only the Restaurant in the Elizabeth hotel. Nice but far from elegant.

Dragon Slayer

Red Kilt
01-09-11, 11:02
Make it a rule to never give money to a girl that you have not met in person. This makes a lot of sense. I always say that I cannot send money until I have met in person. <SNIP

Dragon SlayerIf you put DS's quote (see above) alongside my post # 115 you get very clear advice from 2 very experienced Phils mongers.

If you disregard it then you are very very silly.

Tiger43
01-09-11, 14:55
If you put DS's quote (see above) alongside my post # 115 you get very clear advice from 2 very experienced Phils mongers.

If you disregard it then you are very very silly.Thanks DS and RK,

You are 100% right again! I think I am just as stupid as I want to be. I this case a "Christian" sect seems to be involved, maybe that is why the girl seemed to be so genuine. She is doing it for God! I would not mind, if she would give me a good time for a little money. I would not care to whom she gives the money in the end, but now I believe that the fundamentalistic US- sect totally provides the infrastructure for the whole scam. And the sect is even real, with church, priests, worshipping and everything! Unbelievable?

Has anyone made similar experiences?

My own advice to myself now: never extend the chats over an limited time and avoid chatting from far away places. You will get soft after a while. Try to get an immediate date from a girl of one of the villages or small towns not too far from a bigger city, so they can pay for their ticket themselves, meet them there in a public place (as advised by others) , probably refund their bus tickets round trip, but take the girl to your hotel only if she is really nice. Maybe better stick to the Catholic girls in the future?

Sammon
01-09-11, 18:43
Guys,

I have been ill for a few weeks and online solely for work. I hope to head to the Phils shortly and catch up with GoodEnough then.

Make it a rule to never give money to a girl that you have not met in person. This makes a lot of sense. I always say that I cannot send money until I have met in person. I am tired of getting ripped off by filipinas hustling online for money. Most of these women are working dozens of foreign men. Some ever hundreds. Filipinas I know tell me of girls in their Barangay or School who are online daily meeting foreigners in various sites and asking them for money. The way it works is simply that the more men you ask, sooner or later you will get a few who will send you $ 40. $ 100; a large amount of money for these women.

Remember that no matter what they tell you, most of these young women have Filipino boyfriends their own age. This IS a Fact! Don't be naieve of a dumbshit and think they have become "totally enamored" with you after chatting online. You have to be verry foolish to think this. Remember when we were young and in school. The hot looking, young women in scholl were all seeing guys from school or where they lived. It is no different here.

What we have going for us is $$$ and the offer of a much better life than they have now. The Filipino boyfriend cannot give them this. Add that most filipinos look to their women for money and help while fucking everything in sight, and you can add that many of us will treat them far better than they have ever been treated before. This is what I hear most from the young ladies. Staying in an elegant hotel, drinking real, magnificent champagne and getting chocolates as gifts; they have never experienced this before. The cute one in the Cebu photos commented to me" thankyou for such a wonderful evening. I have never been to dining in an elegant restaurant before." ANd it was only the Restaurant in the Elizabeth hotel. Nice but far from elegant.

Dragon SlayerI know lots of people send money first without meeting the girls. It is a individual choice. I have been been guilty of that also. In my experience I have sent money total of four times. All the girls I met through DIA. Only one percieved virgin did not meet me after I sent $50 for a one way ticket to meet me. So my success rate is 75. I guess it is not bad. Another virgin met me and became my GF for a while. She flew to Manila many times to be with me. Two other girls did come to Manila to meet me. One I did not like much mainly because she was not pretty although she looked prettier on the cam. The other girl was good and we met few times. In my case I always want them to fly to manila or cebu to meet me. So I had to take a chance by sending money. Apart from these I have wooed and met other DIA girls but mostly around Manila or Cebu. Never send money for the bus or jeepney but always compensated later.

So I guess it goes both ways. Few times I have gone to the girls place of residence and generally disliked the attention from family members and lack of privacy for us together. When away from their home area they are much relaxed and freer.

So for people who want to try this I would say, If you can afford to loose money send money for them to buy tiket to meet you. But be aware that you may loose this money with no show. Be ready to chalk it upto experience and donation to some poor girl and her family.

Dragon Slayer
01-12-11, 01:51
Sammon,

You had better luck than I did with sending money for travel. I do if the Lady is really sweet purchase her a plane ticket using a credit card so she can travel. But even this I do not like to do. Too many women tend to back out or

Get scared and decide not to come. Many asked me to pay for their Friend, Cousin, Mother, Sister or Auntie to come.

Also. I tell them I am NOT Foreign Aid and cannot finance the Citizens of the Phils.

Women who are seriously interested in Meeting DO come. I do not stay only in Makati City and I travel through Cebu, Leyte, Davao and CDO on my Trips. I get close to where the Lady is so her travel to meet me is not a problem. I DO NOT meet the Family. Too fucking old and too tired of this nonsense. Listening to some Filipino relative "advice" me in first grade english as he gets drunk on my money is something I have had enough of for the rest of my Life. I have a Daughter now with my Beauty in Luzon and I have never met any of her Family. I first met Rose's Family after my second Son, Conor, was born. I did not travel to them but they attended the Birth Party for Conor at GoodEnough's Estate.

Guys,

Do be careful with the sending money matter. The one good thing that came out of my illness was that I was not online the last three weeks of December, except for work. I did not get the dozens of pleas for assistance at Christmas time. I got taken last year by four women on the "please send me money so I can buy my children gifts". One, in February 2010 even told me I was a fool to send her the money like this.

Don't be stupid! Send money ONLY to ladies you have met. If you get close to where they live you can send them 500 pesos for a small fee by Cebuano Lhuillier.

Dragon Slayer

Red Kilt
01-15-11, 02:41
Notice the final line in the article, just to confirm what DS, myself and several others have been saying over and over.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20110114/tph-phl-post-in-guangzhou-warns-vs-onlin-ac8c905.html

Boricua
02-18-11, 16:39
Hi!

I'm really glad I read this post. I have plans to visit the PI in June. During my last trip, I met a really beautiful young lady and her sister. When we met, she also brought her aunt along. I have told this lady that I will be be in Subic Bay for a few days and I invited her and her sister. Wouldn't you know it, she asked if she could bring her mom and dad and also wants for me to meet the rest of the family in Manila. I did tell her that the invitation to Subic was for her and her sister only. After reading your post, I have decided that I want no part in meeting the family.


Sammon,

You had better luck than I did with sending money for travel. I do if the Lady is really sweet purchase her a plane ticket using a credit card so she can travel. But even this I do not like to do. Too many women tend to back out or

Get scared and decide not to come. Many asked me to pay for their Friend, Cousin, Mother, Sister or Auntie to come.

Also. I tell them I am NOT Foreign Aid and cannot finance the Citizens of the Phils.

Women who are seriously interested in Meeting DO come. I do not stay only in Makati City and I travel through Cebu, Leyte, Davao and CDO on my Trips. I get close to where the Lady is so her travel to meet me is not a problem. I DO NOT meet the Family. Too fucking old and too tired of this nonsense. Listening to some Filipino relative "advice" me in first grade english as he gets drunk on my money is something I have had enough of for the rest of my Life. I have a Daughter now with my Beauty in Luzon and I have never met any of her Family. I first met Rose's Family after my second Son, Conor, was born. I did not travel to them but they attended the Birth Party for Conor at GoodEnough's Estate.

Guys,

Do be careful with the sending money matter. The one good thing that came out of my illness was that I was not online the last three weeks of December, except for work. I did not get the dozens of pleas for assistance at Christmas time. I got taken last year by four women on the "please send me money so I can buy my children gifts". One, in February 2010 even told me I was a fool to send her the money like this.

Don't be stupid! Send money ONLY to ladies you have met. If you get close to where they live you can send them 500 pesos for a small fee by Cebuano Lhuillier.

Dragon Slayer

Tiger43
02-19-11, 11:02
Notice the final line in the article, just to confirm what DS, myself and several others have been saying over and over.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/gma/20110114/tph-phl-post-in-guangzhou-warns-vs-onlin-ac8c905.htmlHi victims and future victims, the above link is not accessible any more, but yesterday I even found one of my DIA favourites here:

http://www.dragonladies.org/viewforum.php?f=9

My trip to the Philippines was delayed, because of minor health issues, so I had plenty of time to search for girls on DIA. One I really liked (she was not the one I found on dragonladies yesterday). After more than one month of nice chats came the first request for "tuiton money", but not over the dating site's messenger or ym, but it was texted to my mobile phone in bad broken English, while the girl knows English very well. The txt was sent from the girl's aunties number, which I used, to call my darling to tell her, when I was online. I believe that the girl really wanted to meet me in person and stay with me for a little while, which in the end would have been the most profitable way for her individually, to meet a foreigner, but the greedy relatives then wanted to see instant cash. We Westerners have to take into consideration, that Phlippine girls obviously never act alone on the internet. There seems to be an annoying family around, all the time! I real turnof for me and maybe the reason to cancel my trip to the Philippines.

Wicked Roger
02-19-11, 18:13
Hi victims and future victims, the above link is not accessible any more, but yesterday I even found one of my DIA favourites here:

http://www.dragonladies.org/viewforum.php?f=9

I believe that the girl really wanted to meet me in person and stay with me for a little while, which in the end would have been the most profitable way for her individually, to meet a foreigner, but the greedy relatives then wanted to see instant cash. We Westerners have to take into consideration, that Phlippine girls obviously never act alone on the internet. There seems to be an annoying family around, all the time! I real turnof for me and maybe the reason to cancel my trip to the Philippines. T43.

You are very observant. The girl herself may not be greedy but the relatives / family inevitably can't help themselves and put pressure on the girl. Have known good relationships messed up for good due to interferring and greedy families. The westerner provides help and pasalubongs for the girls (affection etc) but the family / relatives want it as well. They truly believe they are entitled as in their culture you everything for family. Not so in ours and this 'clash' causes so much friction that I haveseen first hand.

So many pinays I have met working overseas are the only ones working while the rest sit at home and ask for more cash. If they can shit on their own they will definitely try and shit on you (ie get you to pay for their lifestyle) by pressurising the girl who will feel obliged to ask you as family is always first.

Dragon Slayer
02-20-11, 10:49
Tiger43,

You just met some "bad apples". Don't let it stop you from meeting filipinas. There are millions of beautiful, single, dceent women here. You just "weed out" the garbage and keep the Quality Ladies. I just learn from my mistakes with the sleazy hustlers. No matter what they say on the internet, I DO NOT send them money. I tell them straight out that I will NOT give money to a lady I have not met in person. And anyone can get money for a busride. Now if you are in Manila and the girl is in South Cotabato, you will have to fly to Davao City to get within bus riding distance for her. THIS IS NECESSARY. And Davao City is a good place to travel to and enjoy as I fuond out 15 years ago. If she is in Iligan or Butuan or Camiguin or somewhere on the island of Zamboanga, you fly to Cagayan de Oro. You can enjoy the dozens of Clubs here where the girls dance nude while waiting for her. Get a few "warm up" Fucks and Blowjobs in while waiting also.

NEVER, EVER MEET THE GIRL'S FAMILY! You heard it from me many times. You will thank me for this advice. Believe me, you DO NOT want to go there. If, after seeing the lady a few times and "fucking her tits off", you can then go to her residence and take Mom and Dad and the dozen or so Brothers, Sisters, Cousins, Aunties and uncles to lunch or dinner. If the number accompanying you is more than five, DO choose a carendeiria. They will not mind and the Filipino food will be fine for them and the men will enjoy the San Miguel beers. They will not know how to act in an elegant restaurant, although, I do take them to these places, letting them know ahead of time to dress up a bit. THey do feel awkward but a good bottle of french red gets them relaxed. I think it is nice to have them experience this, assuming there are not too many accompanying you and your wallet can stand the "freight".

Dragon Slayer

Finrod
02-20-11, 22:46
I got to chime in here: I agree about using local style restaurant and entertainment when meeting the girl's family. Do not ever take them to anything upscale from that, it's you who has to get down to their level. Only way to keep the cost down. A couple of anecdotes to illustrate:

When in Cebu City a year ago, I once took a girl from outside the city and her friend to the nice Filipino restaurant at or near the end of the Terraces in Ayala Center. It was a clearly inappropriate choice as they weren't dressed well enough for it (I was dressed OK, good jeans and button-front shirt not out of place there, but they were in shorts, t-shirts and cheap sandals). Also their table manners were a tad lacking. You can imagine the looks of disapproval from the other diners there. The bill was around 900p, IIRC. No wine or other alcoholic beverages. Not that bad, but still. I should have taken them to the top floor where there is a food court with Filipino-style eats. The better idea was to isolate the girl and take her to Juliana's later that night. She was definitely not out of place there.

When in Surigao City a week later, I took the local girl (different girl I had met in Manila on a previous visit) and her relatives to a lechon baboy outlet on the street for takeout that was taken back to their home. A few more pesos in a cousin's hand led to cheap soda pop purchased from the local market nearby. Not remembering the total outlay, but it was dang cheap for feeding a dozen people. On my last night there, I took them to a family-style karaoke bar where we rented a room for 3 hours. I was the only foreigner in the entire place. Total bill was about 800p for 9 people. They were good that time about keeping my costs down by ordering the bar's specialty drink by the pitcher; this was an odd concoction that tasted like sweetened ice tea but was mixed with enough Tanduay to pack a nice kick. The private room was good; it helped me avoid the drunk pinoys in the common area.

So I hope you see these examples for what works and what doesn't if you ever get roped into providing a meal or entertainment for the relatives. Cheap is OK, do not feel bad about that, these girls mostly can't appreciate any better beyond that you have money.

Wicked Roger
02-22-11, 18:07
I got to chime in here: I agree about using local style restaurant and entertainment when meeting the girl's family. Do not ever take them to anything upscale from that, it's you who has to get down to their level. Only way to keep the cost down. A couple of anecdotes to illustrate:

When in Cebu City a year ago, I once took a girl from outside the city and her friend to the nice Filipino restaurant at or near the end of the Terraces in Ayala Center. It was a clearly inappropriate choice as they weren't dressed well enough for it (I was dressed OK, good jeans and button-front shirt not out of place there, but they were in shorts, t-shirts and cheap sandals). Also their table manners were a tad lacking. You can imagine the looks of disapproval from the other diners there. The bill was around 900p, IIRC. No wine or other alcoholic beverages. Not that bad, but still. I should have taken them to the top floor where there is a food court with Filipino-style eats. The better idea was to isolate the girl and take her to Juliana's later that night. She was definitely not out of place there.

So I hope you see these examples for what works and what doesn't if you ever get roped into providing a meal or entertainment for the relatives. Cheap is OK, do not feel bad about that, these girls mostly can't appreciate any better beyond that you have money. Could have been Cafe Laguna if the ground floor but maybe the top floor one. I avoid both having been in there. If Cebu again go to Gerrys Grill as for you if you want fish there is a nice marlin steak but the girls always go for chop suey, sisig and similar 'cuisine'. GG is cheap. My Cebu favourite who loves Gustavian and other nice restaurants also likes GG as it does good pinoy food and is cheap (she knows I won't eat but for us it is a good compromise and for 2 of us it is value)

Xfactors
03-24-11, 11:16
DS, I tried the internet prescription business 2 times: my first and last time. Like you I made an initial purchase a few years ago (diazepam in my case) for a very low price. I think it was 100 (10mg) pills manufactured in India for $25. The product was legit, but I was immediately bombarded with junk email solicitations from every internet drug panhandler under the sun. Ok. I put my email blocker on and that was that. But then two months later, I get an unsolicited package in the mail from India with another 100 diazepam and a bill inside. I notified the outfit that I did not order these pills and would return them at their expense. A few more messages later; the issue was dropped and I kept the 2nd shipment free. But I really did not like being sent unsolicited stuff from third world countries for many reasons as you can imagine (9/11)!

Like you, I prefer not to conduct this kind of business over the internet. Fortunately I am in BKK once a year and can stock up on Vitamin C. I still have to supplement my domestic supply once in awhile at Costco with the outrageous USA pricing, but that is the cost of show business. For a good cheap place to buy Viagra, I tried this securetabs website, and had pretty good luck with it. They advertise on this forum, ISG. The only problem is I've received a lot of spam email after I ordered from this website, which I don't appreciate, but I do feel this is a good cheap place to buy Viagra. When I need some more, I'll probably order from this website again. This is the website I ordered from.

http://securetabs.com/viagra100.html?id=1&sub=usa I ordered 10 Generic Viagra Super Active pills for $42. 16. With that order I also got 10 free Generic Viagra Mint Soft Tabs at no cost + free shipping on this order. Total cost was $42. 16 for this order. This stuff comes from India. So it's 20 pills, for $42. 16, or about $2. 10 per pill. If you place larger orders, you get more of a discount. Just get ready for the spam emails.

Dragon Slayer
03-25-11, 23:17
Guys,

I purchased viagra from a website last September. Cost me $99 for 40 100mg tabs and took 14 days for delivery. I normally buy it on Burgos St in Makati City. I pay P1000 ($ 23) for seven (7) four packs. It is a savings of roughly.

$ 1. 70 off what I paid on the internet. It cost P680 ($ 15. 60) for just one 100mg tablet at a pharmacy in Davao (prescription required) and it was Out of Stock.

Go to Burgos and the guys selling items will approach you if you hang out on the street during daytime. Tell them you will pay 1, 000 pesos for seven boxes of 4, 100mg tabs. They begin at 1, 500 pesos for one four pack and I guess there are plenty of dumb shit tourists who fall for it. Just politely reply with "fuck you dickhead! Seven boxes for 1, 000!"

In Cebu you can buy it from the guys on the Street at Fuente Osmena. I bought it once but I did not get any added pump" from normal erection. With the viagra it is normally bigger and harder and longer and it stays erect longer. Again, I may have just purchased a bad batch or I had eaten something that offset its usefullness (pizza, fast foods, drinking more than 1-2 glasses of alcohol). You can buy it at Silver Dollar when the owner is around (after 9PM) for 1, 000 pesos for a four pack. Not a good price but a lot cheaper than a Cebu pharmacy which will require a prescription and most likely will not even have it in stock.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
10-24-11, 00:54
Guys,

Just back online after some sort of glitch that left me for 36 hours without my Landline phone OR my internet service. You soon realize how much you depend on these. And I had not yet replaced my cellphone provider as I was considering which to use. Had to resort to a prepaid service for my old US cellphone.

I have this past week read two online articles concerning horrific cellphone bills incurred by individuals who travelled out of the US and kept their US cellphone activated. I do not need my US phone when overseas but I am still concerned. I want to have it with me so I can use it during the initial part of my Trip when I am in US Airports before my initial overseas flight to Tokyo. But I do not want some idiots texting or calling me on it while I am away, running up huge charges for me.

Any suggestions?

Dragon Slayer

GreenBud
10-24-11, 01:16
I want to have it with me so I can use it during the initial part of my Trip when I am in US Airports before my initial overseas flight to Tokyo. But I do not want some idiots texting or calling me on it while I am away, running up huge charges for me.

Any suggestions?1) You can just turn off the phone when you are overseas. You won't be charged for the text and voicemail if you don't answer them when you are overseas. Note that you can use skype to check your voicemail.

2) You can call customer service and tell them to turn off international access.

Bob Bowie
10-24-11, 08:29
Last year I brought my Iphone with me to the Philippines. Most places I stayed had Wifi, so it was very convenient to to use for surfing the net or checking emails. I was even able to watch the NFL games using the Iphone and Slingbox. Before I left the US I called ATT and had them cut off any international service, just in case I accidentally turned on a roaming feature.

On my trip this year I brought my old iphone and paid some kid 500 peso in a Manila mall to jail break the old phone so I could use it there. I had him put in a Smart Sim card and I was able to text using the "keyboard" instead of the slow way I had been forced to use on my Nokia.

Also, I was now able to use the Smart 3G for the Internet, it was fast enough and I never had a problem with it going offline (as long as I had load) In the past I had used the Smart Bro modem with my laptop, and it was just about useless during peak times.

I am sure you can find an old iphone or equivalent on Craigslist before your next trip.

Finrod
10-25-11, 20:58
Two things:

- turn off the networking other than wifi.

- don't answer the phone, let everything go to voice mail and use Skype or similar service to check your voice mails and return calls.

On my last trip, I paid an extra flat fee $35 to Verizon to have overseas data service on my global phone, giving me access to local 2G / 3G service where available (Verizon global phones come with GSM SIM card as well as the usual CDMA stuff). That was pretty convenient for checking my emails and browsing hotel websites on the road. The fee doesn't include SMS / MMS texting. This allowed me to use cheap phones for local calling / texting. I think with the prevalence of wifi, I will likely not pay that fee, I'll just rely on wifi connection.

Parife
11-01-11, 12:57
Hello, brothers.

I am going over to cebu for 3 weeks in a few days. This is my first time to ph.

I have been chatting up a few girls from facebook and will be trying a few of them. They are all regular girls and not prostitutes.

Some girls are very young (around 18 or so) and still want to do the deed with me. I am trying to be cautious.

Could some bros help me on this issue. What is the age of consent in ph. Do I need to look out for any I'd to establish age.

Thanks a lot in advance to all those bros out there.

Dragon Slayer
11-02-11, 01:01
Parife,

You have NOT been reading the Posts in this Forum. THe issue of legal age has just been discussed at some lenght here over the past ten days. Age of consent in the Philippines IS 18. For filipinos they tend to look away unless the girl is from a wealthy Filipino-Chinese Family. In this case the buy most likely is found in some alley as rat meat.

Filipinas should have a valid I'd. The ones who never worked and are from poorer families of lowlifes may not have this. Just avoid them. If the girl is employed in any decent occupation, such as sales lady (promo girl) in a Mall Shop or as an Office worker, she would have to be 18 and prove it in order to get the job. If she is in school anywhere she will have a school I'd and you can verify her age. If she is a street urchin, who knows and you, as a rookie, should stay clear.

Dragon Slayer

Parife
11-03-11, 13:36
I really appreciate your patience to reply to me. I was hoping to get a reply from other brothers out there. But to get a reply from "The Dragon Slayer" is quite humbling.

I would take in your inputs and play safe.

Thanks again bro

Member #4491
11-03-11, 19:11
parife, please note that you will have to moderate your sexual encounters yourself. do not rely on information you get from the girls or mamasan. you can, and most likely will, be offered sex with **** girls, both in bars, casas and on the street. you could of course go ahead and fuck these girls like for example many locals do with little remorse, but sooner or later you will find yourself locked up in the "pound me in the ass"-penitentiary.

why do you ask? what is the age of consent where you come from? i am not flaming you, just asking.

b

Parife
11-04-11, 14:51
parife, please note that you will have to moderate your sexual encounters yourself. do not rely on information you get from the girls or mamasan. you can, and most likely will, be offered sex with **** girls, both in bars, casas and on the street. you could of course go ahead and fuck these girls like for example many locals do with little remorse, but sooner or later you will find yourself locked up in the "pound me in the ass"-penitentiary.

why do you ask? what is the age of consent where you come from? i am not flaming you, just asking.

bto be frank i want to pop the cherry of a virgin. but i am not sure if i ever will be lucky. but i 100 % am not interested in sex with an **** girl. the reason why i asked the question was to get more clarity to the **** issue.

i think it is wise to hook up with 20+ yr olds.

Dragon Slayer
11-04-11, 20:40
parife,

why would you want a virgin? in the philippines you can still meet ladies who are virgins, but why in the world would you want this? i mean who needs it? i posted in my cebu board on the 19 year old college girl i met last year in cebu. she was a virgin and if i had known this before i met her, i would have passed. yes, i did get laid but so what! nothing like with the dozens of ladies here i meet, a few of whom i have been seeing for several years now.

anyone who uses a little common sense and is careful can avoid getting involved with **** women. again, if she is working, she almost definitely is 18 or older. and if a student, you can check her student i'd which she must have. you can also, if concerned, as to see.

her birth certificate or other papers.

i do not meet **** women and i inform them of this right away. i do like to meet younger women from 19-25 as they often are a lot of fun to be around, sweet and affectionate, and they usually do not carry a ton of "excess baggage" about with them (children, ex-husband / boyfriend, tons of debts, lousy attitude on men and life, etc).

no need to obscess on this age thing. just take the time to do the "research" and be aware. again, if she is working you can determine her age very easily.

dragon slayer

Bloomberg
11-05-11, 15:18
to be frank i want to pop the cherry of a virgin. but i am not sure if i ever will be lucky. but i 100 % am not interested in sex with an **** girl. the reason why i asked the question was to get more clarity to the **** issue.

i think it is wise to hook up with 20+ yr olds.you want to do this because you have never done it before or is it just something you like? i have had a few virgins in my life so far and i try to avoid it now because it doesn't give me something extra, besides the mess.

also if you meet one who is in her twenties here, be a bit careful. if you "pop her cherry" it is quite likely she expects more from you than a free lunch and some taxi money. don't be surprised if some angry family members knock on your door later on.

Parife
11-05-11, 18:29
parife,

why would you want a virgin? in the philippines you can still meet ladies who are virgins, but why in the world would you want this? i mean who needs it? i posted in my cebu board on the 19 year old college girl i met last year in cebu. she was a virgin and if i had known this before i met her, i would have passed. yes, i did get laid but so what! nothing like with the dozens of ladies here i meet, a few of whom i have been seeing for several years now.

anyone who uses a little common sense and is careful can avoid getting involved with **** women. again, if she is working, she almost definitely is 18 or older. and if a student, you can check her student i'd which she must have. you can also, if concerned, as to see.

her birth certificate or other papers.

i do not meet **** women and i inform them of this right away. i do like to meet younger women from 19-25 as they often are a lot of fun to be around, sweet and affectionate, and they usually do not carry a ton of "excess baggage" about with them (children, ex-husband / boyfriend, tons of debts, lousy attitude on men and life, etc).

no need to obscess on this age thing. just take the time to do the "research" and be aware. again, if she is working you can determine her age very easily.

dragon slayerdragon slayer.

the primary reason i would want a virgin is that the chances of any infection is very less. but i do have some reservations on boning a virgin. still a bit confused weather to use them or not

i do accept the fact the 19-25 yr olds can be much fun. lets see whats in store for me in ph. thanks for your time and advise. really appreciate this bro.

parife

Finrod
11-05-11, 23:17
To be frank I want to pop the cherry of a virgin. But I am not sure if I ever will be lucky.Some points:

I sure hope you are not the type of scum who will say and promise anything just to get in her pants. If this is going to be a one-off for you, you need to be upfront with her about that, otherwise you may break her heart.

You may be offered virgins via p4p. Typically outrageous prices. For instance during my first visit to Manila several years ago, I was offered an 18 year old virgin for 50k pesos to take her virginity. This isn't my thing so I passed. I did hear from her agent / pimp a few weeks later that someone else took her virginity for that price and she had become available for a lot less.

Last thing, you may find girls who will lie about their virginity. You most certainly will find girls who understate their number of sexual partners. Caveat emptor is all I can say.

IMO, this search for virgins is frought with issues that are moot when you take this requirement off the table. And I say this regardless of your intent with the girls from marriage to one night stand and in between.

Dragon Slayer
11-10-11, 20:11
Guys,

Personally I cannot comprehend why any adult male would want a virgin. I have had more than a few of these over the 20+ years travelling here in the Philippines. I was NOT seeking them out. Just my bad luck. But I can avoid them today. And, as to sexually transmitted diseases, I have been fortunate to avoid these. I limit activities with ladies that are pros or semi-pros and use a condom with them. Been fortunate with the regular ladies to not ever incur any problems. Of course, you need to be wary and aware. But having sex with virgins to avoid STDs is a bit extreme.

On another matter, I was seeking a way to transfer additional funds into my Bank Account for the Little Mothers of my young children living in the Philippines. A phone call to the Bank Branch Manager had her suggesting that I go into the Branch of my US Bank and arrange for them to wire the funds. Ya, and I could also shoot myself. TO get one of those incompetent assholes to do an international wire transfer would be something. Add to this the Fact that in the USA your Private, Banking Businees is anything but private. Last thing I need is for those assholes to be discussing over coffee, or drinks at Happy Hour, the wire transfer they made to the Philippines on behalf of Dragon Slayer.

But the conversation DID achieve its Goal. While talking to the Branch Manager of this Phil Bank, a "font of financial knowledge if ever there was one" (I am, of course, being very sarcastic) , I did come up with not one but two viable solutions to this Matter. Both I came up with and inquired of her if both options would work. She answered affirmatively. Why didn't she suggest either one? Simple, she did NOT think of them. As Manager, she IS paid to Manage, NOT THINK! If she was capable of Original Thought, she would be operating her own successful business. NOT WORKING FOR SOME INSTITUION.

The conversation achieved its purpose. I will undertake this today. Report back in a few days as to how everything went.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
12-08-11, 02:12
guys,

i use various websites when checking hotel rates and i do on rare occasions make bookings. i have established relationships with several hotels in makati, cebu and davao over the years that make them my preferred places to stay. but still you do get decent rates by carefully (as in very carefully) checking hotel sites like agoda, expedia, hotels, etc.

please note that the ratings on these sites and the photos and the "testimonials" need to be taken very casually. do not go by these ratings. i viewed hotel sites on agoda yesterday. some real fucking dumps were given good ratings and the rathole, cebu hotel i have trashed after my horrible stay there last jan / feb 2011 (3 horrible nights} is given great ratings. outstanding testimonials through the ass! no mention of my rep001hing review or those of the three (3) other men who posted in my cebu board about lousy service and even being ripped off on room rates. you really do need to get reviews from men who stayed at these hotels and best from guys who have similar taste as you (a backpacker will love a squalid boarding house or a "room" in a filipino's home; not sure you will).

my guess is that they ignore all negative comments and even make up good reviews. bad reviews do not get bookings. no bookings, no commissions to agoda.

do your homework and do be careful. on a final comment, red knight garden in davao city (out by airport) is given very mediocre rating. most likely because this place is usually full and rarely needs assistance with bookings. i did stay here and this is one inexpensive place to stay that is nice. it is available for the end of this year. price looks a bit steep on agoda but call and talk with them directly. don't be koripot! spend a few pennies on the int'l call and negotiate a fari rate with them.

dragon slayer

FreebieFan
12-08-11, 06:49
guys,

i use various websites when checking hotel rates and i do on rare occasions make bookings. i have established relationships with several hotels in makati, cebu and davao over the years that make them my preferred places to stay. but still you do get decent rates by carefully (as in very carefully) checking hotel sites like agoda, expedia, hotels, etc.

please note that the ratings on these sites and the photos and the "testimonials" need to be taken very casually. do not go by these ratings. i viewed hotel sites on agoda yesterday. some real fucking dumps were given good ratings and the rathole, cebu hotel i have trashed after my horrible stay there last jan / feb 2011 (3 horrible nights} is given great ratings. outstanding testimonials through the ass! no mention of my rep001hing review or those of the three (3) other men who posted in my cebu board about lousy service and even being ripped off on room rates. you really do need to get reviews from men who stayed at these hotels and best from guys who have similar taste as you (a backpacker will love a squalid boarding house or a "room" in a filipino's home; not sure you will).

bad reviews do not get bookings. no bookings, no commissions to agoda.

dragon slayerbe a little cautious with expedia reviews as many are posted by expedia themself, especially the good ones. same with the hotels they "rank" as their best.

simply, expedia recieves commissions on various sliding scales from both individual hotels and chair hotels. obviously the chain hotels can negotitate a lower commission for higher bookings generation. an individual hotel however can generate up to 25% commission to expedia, so it should be no suprises that these hotels magically receive "glowing " recommendations.

better the recommendation (even if penned by expedia staff) , the higher the commission. be warned.

Dragon Slayer
02-15-12, 21:44
Guys,

This is something apart from the Philippines. In earlier times before I joined ISG I made Trips to Latin America. I studied Spanish to the extent that I speak it fairly good, but not even close to fluent. I took some time recently to check out some newly uncoverred Net Sites on Latin American Women. The places I got interested in are Panama and the Dominican Republic. I made two Trips to Panama City in '97 &'98 and I enjoyed it.

On one Site I have met dozens of beautiful women age 18-29 in the Dominican Republic. All beautiful and most with racks of 36C/D cup tits. Main obstacles are they speak absolutely no english at all and have no concept of the USA except we are wealthy here. Also, use only msn for chat and solely in Spanish. Webcams (camera in espanol) appear to be a rare item.

I was thinking of making a Trip for 3-4 nights in March or late APril, going from the southwest. I would fly Delta or its affiliate solely as my gold card gets me first class seating, if available, and many privlileges, along with miles. No interest in flying AMerican. I had enough shitty experiences flying Northwest Airlines during its bankruptcy era and been insulted by disgruntled, ugly women employees in Detroit and elsewhere.

My pal, Horny Al, told me to review the ISG Forum on these areas. I made only a brief overview op posts. A lot of detritous and useless information (sorry but I call it as I read it). Full of guys asking taxi drivers where to take them and guys in cheap, apartelles. Reminiscent of the Phil Forum and why I never waste time reading that. I have NEVER relied on a taxi driver for advice on anything in any foreign country.

Do any of you have recommendations for decent, nice hotels in Santo Domingo, Santiago, etc in DR? Also, restaurants and decent bars. As to the mongering holes, I will not need them. Know a good fifty ladies in the 18-24 age range in the DR now. All ask the same fucking question: "cuanto tu va Santo Domingo (or Santiago or Puerto Plata or whereverr the fuck she is). My reply is always "yo no se".

To be honest the sole advantages I see are that it is much, much closer than the Phils and it will be a "New Adventure" for me. I already have a good idea of where to go and what to do in Panama City. I can make inquiries for this should I choose to go there first. But the Dominican Republic is uncharted waters for me. Might be fun.

Any comments on this?

Dragon Slayer

Member #4351
02-15-12, 22:07
Many nice hotels in Santo Domingo aren't GF. I was going to stay at the Marriott Renaissance Santo Domingo Jaragua Hotel & Casino for an upcoming trip, but they won't let in girls. So I will stay at the Courtyard Santo Domingo which has a relatively decent room with breakfast promotion. Jaososua is a poster who knows a lot about Santo Domingo and is very helpful if you PM him.

Slippery
02-16-12, 03:08
Guys,

This is something apart from the Philippines. In earlier times before I joined ISG I made Trips to Latin America. I studied Spanish to the extent that I speak it fairly good, but not even close to fluent. I took some time recently to check out some newly uncoverred Net Sites on Latin American Women. The places I got interested in are Panama and the Dominican Republic. I made two Trips to Panama City in '97 &'98 and I enjoyed it.

On one Site I have met dozens of beautiful women age 18-29 in the Dominican Republic. All beautiful and most with racks of 36C / D cup tits. Main obstacles are they speak absolutely no english at all and have no concept of the USA except we are wealthy here. Also, use only msn for chat and solely in Spanish. Webcams (camera in espanol) appear to be a rare item.

I was thinking of making a Trip for 3-4 nights in March or late APril, going from the southwest. I would fly Delta or its affiliate solely as my gold card gets me first class seating, if available, and many privlileges, along with miles. No interest in flying AMerican. I had enough shitty experiences flying Northwest Airlines during its bankruptcy era and been insulted by disgruntled, ugly women employees in Detroit and elsewhere.

My pal, Horny Al, told me to review the ISG Forum on these areas. I made only a brief overview op posts. A lot of detritous and useless information (sorry but I call it as I read it). Full of guys asking taxi drivers where to take them and guys in cheap, apartelles. Reminiscent of the Phil Forum and why I never waste time reading that. I have NEVER relied on a taxi driver for advice on anything in any foreign country.

Do any of you have recommendations for decent, nice hotels in Santo Domingo, Santiago, etc in DR? Also, restaurants and decent bars. As to the mongering holes, I will not need them. Know a good fifty ladies in the 18-24 age range in the DR now. All ask the same fucking question: "cuanto tu va Santo Domingo (or Santiago or Puerto Plata or whereverr the fuck she is). My reply is always "yo no se".

To be honest the sole advantages I see are that it is much, much closer than the Phils and it will be a "New Adventure" for me. I already have a good idea of where to go and what to do in Panama City. I can make inquiries for this should I choose to go there first. But the Dominican Republic is uncharted waters for me. Might be fun.

Any comments on this?

Dragon SlayerYeah, its alot more convenient. I had a home down there for 4 years. To me, filipinas are higher quality females than the Dominicanas but to each his own. I have not returnd to DR since I discovered PI. In any event go to the DR forum and read ANYTHING Jaososua has to say. He's the man anywhere in the DR and that's coming from a guy who has made at least 60 trips there. He's most informative and will probably be happy to hook up with you if you are both there at the same time.

Dragon Slayer
02-16-12, 20:15
Slippery & David 33,

I certainly feel that only Mainland China has women to come close to rivaling those in the Philippines. But, again, it is a hell of a long Trip. I will be travelling from the southwestern USA (so Cal) , I read how one guy flies from Las Vegas. I have a young Client, former professional athlete, who goes regularly to Columbia and raves about it. He told me a flight to DR would be,"A piece of Cake".

Again, I am thinking of a trip of only 4 nights. Just see one City and dine out and hit a few nice, upscale bars / clubs. Meet and fuck a couple of the ladies I met and have spoken with over the last few weeks. Probably ones in the 19-23 age range. Older tend to carry a lot of "baggage" (same in Phils) , some bitterness to men and want to Marry, Get Married, Marry, Get Married IMMEDIATELY to any foreigner who comes along. In fact, this IS a major reason why I look for younger women in the Philippines. If still studying, just begginning a career, etc, they are not looking for some Yank to "sweep them away to the USA".

Okay, the Kid (my fat nephew in NYC) did this. But it took six trips and my calling in dozens of favors to set him up with a good froty (yes 40) women. His record was beyond horrific and when Rose from his initial Trip got interested in marrying him (after her sister was in Chicago and the old fuck she married 6 months earlier died as planned) , it was his only option. So, naturally, a guy like that will get married. What are hischoices?

Again, this DR Trip may wait until July but I just think a change can be fun. And I do not have the "Mommy Pressure". My children are great but the little mothers really "turn up the heat ($$)" when I am there. I might return to Panama City first. But, as I recall, for mongering it was the Little League compared to the Philippines. But, again, I met a few women there in the 25-28 age range (but no english; hate talking solo en espanol). Might do a long weekend there as I did in '97 & '98.

I saw the movie "White Elephant" late last evening. Have not been to Thailand in ten years. Brought me back there. Have some great memories! Again, in no fucking way do the Thai women come close to the Filipinas and I DO speak nearly fluent Thai and my only marriage 25 years ago was to a Thai woman. I learned young enough to "RENT, DON'T BUY; EVER!".

Again, only Place I have been yet where the women rival Filipinas in sheer Beauty, Skin Quality, Personality, Kindness / Human Decency AND Unbelievable fucking Ability IS CHINA! But a VISA is required and it is a very long haul.

Now again, my one pal, Horny Al, raves about black, African women. A few years back he told me and I quote,"much, much more passion". I have never been there and I guess I need to go. Al has one attribute I admire deeply: When it comes to Exquisite Pussy, He Knows His Stuff! I rarely have a chance to meet him anymore as I spend so much time with the children (actually I feel the time spent is not enough so my mongering days could be numbered).

In any event, Anyone wanting to Meet Up with me at Bangkok Int'l Airport in early May, please indicate herein. I will arrive late night from US and take a car direct that night to Pattaya City and stay in one of the Hotels I stayed at 10-15 years prior. Not likely to be out of business and I enjoy the late night ride there. No traffic and it IS a Fun Trip (save one and one half hours also). As I recall, Pattaya City Bars are still "flying high" at 02:00 AM.

After a few days we will head to Bangkok in time for the evening fun on various Streets (not Patpong; always found it a ripoff). I remember once how a girlfriend in Bangkok got me into the Lek Hotel not so far from Nana Plaza. Late at night the restaurant in the hotel, overlooking the street, was full of young, regular Thai people (plenty of Thai women). English is taught in schools now and most speak halfway decent english if college level. If not, who cares? I like to speak Thai and it has been a long time.

Because I speak Thai I tend to dine in places frequented solely by Thais and Chinese. Better food, cheaper prices and women, women, women! But, I am somehow certain that the CLubs and Bars and Discos I frequented years ago are still there. If not, plenty of new ones will have been born.

Dragon Slayer

Wolvenvacht
02-16-12, 20:38
Guys,

I use various websites when checking Hotel rates and I do on rare occasions make bookings. I have established Relationships with several Hotels in Makati, Cebu and Davao over the Years that make them my preferred places to stay. But still you do get decent rates by carefully (as in VERY CAREFULLY) checking hotel sites like Agoda, Expedia, Hotels, Etc. (snip) Did you try.

http://www.booking.com?

I cannot prove they do not add "good" comments for certain hotels in return for a higher commission (although I would be really surprised if they did) , but at least they also show negative comments. The prices they quote are "all inclusive" (no hidden "tax" added at the final booking stage; they operate a generous and liberal cancellation policy; no payment up-front is to be made and they have a very user-friendly web-site.

Great Muta
02-25-12, 17:21
DS basically said on a few years ago that it does not hurt to be an older guy in the Philippines. I am a younger guy (a little past 20, yes 20) and I can tell you that it's true. While I will be making my first trip there this year, I've been dealing with these girls for years online. I go after girls all the time and I think if I was about 20 years older I'd be in better positions. Girls there really seem to think older men have the cash and are more willing to marry.

I also should note that I prefer the older girls as opposed to the younger girls. Older women tend to be more busty and have better backsides. There's way too many younger filipina's who are super conversative and I want none of that lifestyle. While I like older women without kids, atleast if they have kids YOU KNOW they put out at some point.

Great Muta
02-25-12, 17:39
By the way, thanks for all of your great information especially about how Filipino's can't divorce. I just saw that after making my post. That's something that I don't think anyone would even think of.

Dragon Slayer
02-28-12, 02:17
Great Muta,

Thankyou for posting your comments here. Good to have you Onboard.

Guys,

On this Situation with Married FIlipinas, the REAL PROBLEM occurs when you 1) get involved with a Woman.

Who is married (in the Phils Separated does NOT mean Shit!) from a well to do Family or married into a well to do.

Family and 2) you get her pregnant. What should you do? My advice would be to get on a plane back Home and

Stay there for a Year or Two until the "Air" cools down a bit so you can safely (without looking over your shoulder every few seconds) return.

As for the Lady. Again, see if she can get on a plane out of the Phils on any pretext at all. Get her to your Country.

And keep her there until she gives birth. After that, well she better apply for a Permanent Residency VISA. And as for you, just kick yourself hard in the shins until it bleeds to remind you what a dumb fuck you were.

Now, if the Lady is one of 80% who has a Filipino husband who is a total fucking loser. No worry; he is mostlikely long gone and has little recollection of his wife. SHould he arrive on the scene he can be dealt with in various ways, including handing hims a wad of cash and telling him that Angeles City has the "best *hores for his (newfound) money. Setting hims up with a string of street pros for a couple thousand pesos will work also. For the other ways to resolve this, get your checkbook open as I charge for Serious Resolutions to Problems.

The story of the Brit and the lovely, MARRIED Filipina from 2005 was on National Geographic,"Locked Up Abroad". This dvd can be purchased from National Geographic and it IS MONEY WELL SPENT. If you are KORIPOT, I have no fucking use for you so you can fuck up as you please. DO remember, it cost the British Guy a $ 10, 000 US "Consulting Fee" to certain Individuals in __________ to get her and himself out of the Philippines. I am not sure of the cost of this dvd but I believe it is a little less than $ 10, 000. Oh, and he paid a few thousand dollars (not pesos) in legal fees to a very prominent Filipino Attorney. This guy earned his money and then some. Especailly when the Husband's thugs tried to kill all three of them.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
02-28-12, 02:49
Great Muta,

Welcome to "Cougar Town". I know it well. As a young, extremely fit, tall, slender ballpayer and martial arts practitioner I was more or less mediocre with the ladies. Why you as Grasshopper? Simple! I was MUCH TOO FUCKING SHE! A goofy looking wimp in my college fraternity who never played any sport, smoked two packs of cigs daily and did more than his share of drugs referred to often as "a sexually deprived muscle". No fat anywhere on my body and arms and shoulders that should have impressed most women immensely (and a huge cock but who's asking?). I just had little in the way of balls and little nerve. ANd beautiful, black women hung around the ballplayers, all of whom were black, save for Dragon Slayer. And I would have cut off my left nut for one of these beautiful ladies. I also had the only car and was constantly lending it out to my black pals and driving them and their black ladies to places. But my balls were in the closet or someplace.

All I had to do was say,"would you like to have dinner with me tonight?" to one of these black beauties. If she said no I could try the next. The guys were NOT limiting themselves to black girls and my black roommate and the other guys needed my perimeter shooting and rebounding (needed my car even more).

Today, I am a hell of a lot older but I have balls the size of Godzillas. Bigger! I approach any woman I like and who the fuck cares! Just skip ones with husbands or boyfriends. Still leaves millions more.

My advice to Great Muta is to first, STOP TELLING THEM YOUR AGE! If necessary, tell them you are 30 and look young. When I was 30 I was getting asked for I'd (drinking age is 21). More than a few ladies told me they did not want a "baby" (Old (itches can fuck themselves; work the "walking cadavers" with limp dicks!). When asked my age today I say whatever comes to mind. Could be 42 or 45 or whatever. If some girl does not like what she hears I move on to the next.

I tend to avoid women in late 30's and 40's as they tend to carry a Load of Hatred for Men and "more baggage than an overloaded 747". But I have to admit they FUCK LIKE DEMONS. Read my Posts on the Davao Board here back in July / August 2007; I was fucking ol Cyber Mike's Lady in Davao; 42 with huge tits, cute face and a "body to die for". And she was a GREAT FUCK! For three + years Cyber Asshole (Mike) had been carryong on an Internet Romance with her. She managed to get him to send her P 10, 000 / Mo ($200 US then; $235 US today) No real sex ever! No cybersex even. Just him chatting with her online for an hour 3-4 times a week in an internet cafe. I met her when she was chatting ol Mike as I stopped into the Net Cafe. She blew me an hour later back at the Marco Polo.

Mike had to be married as both GoodEnough and I concluded. He lived outside Houston, Texas. Telephoned "Big Tits" every day at 10:00AM and 10:00PM Phil Time. As GE stated: "he calls her when he arrives at work and before he goes home. He was supposedly the Controller (chief Accountant) at an Auto Dealership. Long hours and a large salary come with this job. Kept telling "Big Tits" he just could not get to the Phils. As long as P10, 000 showed up each month Big Tits could fucking care less.

One evening she was on me in my room at the Marco Polo, riding my dick like she belonged in the rodeo back in Cyber Mike's Houston, Texas. She was moaning and wailing, her huge tits flopping in the wind. I was hanging on to those "huge puppies" as Big Tits was really working Trousersaurus Rex for all her was worth. It was getting close to 10:00PM, ol Mike's calling time. She was waailing outloud and I could see the clock on the desk as I held her huge knockers. I tld her she could "feel free to take Mike"s call; no need to stop fucking or keep silent on my account". She actually thought seriously about this. A real dick inside her is what she wanted. So long as Mike sent his 10, 000 pesos he could call once a year for all she cared. But Mike would text, threatening to kill himself (I saw a few of these insane texts) when she missed his call.

She told me I might start laughing and Mike would hear it. I told her to tell him that was her tv that her daughter's were watching. Reality was she knew she could not stop wailing outloud so long as my "giant lizard" was inside her. So she began massaging my balls to make me cum inside her sooner. She ended up still missing Mike's call due to her orgasm. Yes, Mike texted her that she was killing him and he would die! When she showed it to me, I laughed so hard I nearly fell over.

Dragon Slaye

Dragon Slayer
11-03-12, 11:39
Guys,

On way to airport to Cebu I had the taxi cruise Burgos St and I got out to purchase viagra from the street guys. First slimeball, reaky of bad breath and body odor and appeared to be half monkey. He told me the "price had gone up". I told hi Goodbye. Had the taxi go a block down and I was beseiged by another group of stret hustlers. I paid P 1000 for five (5) four packs of 100 mg viagra. More than in prior trips when I always paid this for seven four packs and once for nide (9). But I was in a taxi which had me at a disadvantage. They knew I needed it and that I as in a hurry.

Next time I will hangout on the Street and take my time. But I was in Makati only for the weekend and I wanted to get down to Cebu. Anxious to spend time with ALL my children here and also some of the Mommies.

Dragon Slayer

Blacklisted
11-04-12, 14:19
Hey Guys and Special Hey to DS,

Congrats on the well maintained forum and great info. Have been enjoying reading the advice and exploits immensely.

I've been to Phils a fair few times, but have limited myself to the Puerto Galera area mainly, with a couple of trips to AC. I feel it's time to expand my footprint and thought I'd check with you for some advice.

What I love about Sabang in PG is the combination of diving all day and shagging all night. It seems very rare!

Wondered if you know of any other places that have a similar state of play you would recommend for a look?

I've read here that Cebu is quite good, but that the dive sites are a way away from the play areas. Could you also comment on that?

Thanks kindly in advance and keep up the great work!

-Blacklisted

Dragon Slayer
11-05-12, 08:00
Blacklisted, Thankyou.

For diving / fucking the # 1 Place IS DAVAO CITY! Simply drop by De Bonte Koe Restaurant (Henny's) on Rizal St, Habana Compound right acrss from Metrobank on Rizal St and in back of the Club, Chico's. Henny will give you the best dive site info. He often arranges dive trips on Saturday / Sunday mornings for a small fee if there is interest. Henny runs a diving instruction school for PADI Certification.

When I got certified, it involved 16 long weeks, twice weekly for four hours / night in a freezing cold YMCA swimming pool back when I was 16. After getting certified I did not do any diving for a few years due to my parents and family Physicial flay out refusing to permit me. In Henny's Course you train daily for a week, get tested / certified and then embark on your initial dive with him in the ocean water.

In Cebu the diving is done on Mactan Island where there aremany dive places and resorts offering scuba diving. Mactan is full of Japanese and Taiwanese Families vacationing. I do not enjoy this environment with a lady. Perhaps I will bring some of my children here one day.

Dragon Slayer

Great Muta
11-09-12, 14:49
Hey DS, what is the best job to have for a monger in your opinion?

Blacklisted
11-09-12, 19:09
Blacklisted, Thankyou.

For diving / fucking the # 1 Place IS DAVAO CITY! Simply drop by De Bonte Koe Restaurant (Henny's) on Rizal St, Habana Compound right acrss from Metrobank on Rizal St and in back of the Club, Chico's. Henny will give you the best dive site info. He often arranges dive trips on Saturday / Sunday mornings for a small fee if there is interest. Henny runs a diving instruction school for PADI Certification.

Dragon SlayerThanks DS. If I could ask one more question. Assume other readers will also be interested in this info.

Does Davao have a similar situation to Sabang where one can dive in the day and who. Re in the night? In Sabang you can basically get up in the morning, eat breakfast with your girl, kiss goodbye and jog down to the boat. I'm guessing there must be other similar locations. Sounds like Davao is a bit more of a big city situation where the diving is farther away from the action. Unless I am mistaken.

Any other keen divers have any advice on this?

Thanks!

GoodEnough
11-09-12, 21:18
The diving action in Davao is typically around Samal. The dive boats run out of Sosa Pier, which is only minutes away from the centre of town, and the typical trip to a decent site is about 30-45 minutes. Usually, we take a dive, then go over to a beach somewhere on Samal for a picnic lunch, then back on the boat, have another dive and head home. It's a nice day and, depending on water clarity, the dives are decent but not world class. Most of the big pelagic life is long gone from the bay, but there are some excellent walls, decent tropicals, and thus some good drift diving at about 20-30 meters. The dives are easy to arrange and DS' suggestion is a good one. Alternatively, there are at least three dive shops around the pier-Carabao, Wind and Wave are two-that run dive trips several times a week and will be happy to hook you up. There are also a couple of wrecks just off the Pearl Farm, and you can make arrangements through the dive shops to take a look at these as well.

GE.


Thanks DS. If I could ask one more question. Assume other readers will also be interested in this info.

Does Davao have a similar situation to Sabang where one can dive in the day and who. Re in the night? In Sabang you can basically get up in the morning, eat breakfast with your girl, kiss goodbye and jog down to the boat. I'm guessing there must be other similar locations. Sounds like Davao is a bit more of a big city situation where the diving is farther away from the action. Unless I am mistaken.

Any other keen divers have any advice on this?

Thanks!

Ebauche
11-09-12, 22:59
Hey DS, what is the best job to have for a monger in your opinion?Consulting or global sourcing/supply chain/supplier development.

Dragon Slayer
11-10-12, 08:36
Great Muta,

Consulting is good as pointed out here. If you have the skills, Money Managing and Financial Consulting is great as it' allows you to do a lot of work online. I do NOT recommend my Profession as I incur several periods of time where I am stuck in my home City for Client Meetings. But I do have several periods during the Year when I can get away, like now, and continue working online and via telephone. Got a call at dawn today from A Client in the US. Missed call as phone was charging on a table, Returned the call over breakfast in the MP Continental Club. Nothing to it!

Dragon Slayer

Blacklisted
11-10-12, 18:24
The diving action in Davao is typically around Samal. The dive boats run out of Sosa Pier, which is only minutes away from the centre of town, and the typical trip to a decent site is about 30-45 minutes. Usually, we take a dive, then go over to a beach somewhere on Samal for a picnic lunch, then back on the boat, have another dive and head home. It's a nice day and, depending on water clarity, the dives are decent but not world class. Most of the big pelagic life is long gone from the bay, but there are some excellent walls, decent tropicals, and thus some good drift diving at about 20-30 meters. The dives are easy to arrange and DS' suggestion is a good one. Alternatively, there are at least three dive shops around the pier-Carabao, Wind and Wave are two-that run dive trips several times a week and will be happy to hook you up. There are also a couple of wrecks just off the Pearl Farm, and you can make arrangements through the dive shops to take a look at these as well.

GE.Thanks GE for the helpful reply. Sounds like it should be well worth a trip in the future to check it out. Guess Sabang is something of a special place as I consider both the diving and the who. Ring to be world class.

Cheers!

Otari
12-03-12, 20:39
I'm going fist time to Philippines therefore I have some newbie stupid questions:

ē Do in Philippines the bar fine include the full price for the girl? If yes is there a difference between ST and LT bar fine or you have to pay always LT bar fine even if you like to be with a girl for 2-3 hours only? What is an average bar fine and do the girls expect always a tip?

ē If you pay everything upfront how you can ensure the quality of the service (I used to pay always after for P4P)? How much is an average tip for a good service?

ē Is the P4P scene mostly bars or there are good all included massages (oil, soap, nuru) as well?

Cheers

Otari
12-03-12, 20:49
Blacklisted, Thankyou.

For diving / fucking the # 1 Place IS DAVAO CITY!Are there any places on Luzon that you can recommend for this?

Otari
12-03-12, 21:00
Except of Ageless City and Manila Are there any places on Luzon that you can recommend?

Dragon Slayer
12-05-12, 19:06
Otari,

The diving scene exists in Manila / Makati. I just do not know where. On Valdez St, just up from Robelle House, an old, Family owned Hotel that I like, there IS a Diving School. Now I have not checked to see if it still there but a swimming pool and training area existed. I will look to see if it is there still when I return. All major hotels can guide you to diving Places.

Massage Parlors are everywhere in Manila & Makati. To my knowledge all provide sex as a service along with a massage. Again, on Makati Avenue, near Valdez St, is a Health Club that is really a Massage Parlor. You go in and choose the women. Bone Collector discovered this Place a good 17 years ago. He was walking by and thought it might be a place to get one of his "30 minute workouts on a bicycle, etc. He saw all the young girls sitting on benches and was told to make a selection. He walked out as he scares easily (wimpy shit ol Bones). I gave the Kid basic directions to the Place and he found it a good 12 years after Bones. Cost him about P3500 but he was happy with the service.

In Clubs you pay the fee up front and they usually want P2500-3500 from foreigners. Girl expects a tip and taxi fare afterwards. Usually another P1000. Gets expensive fast. Last time I did this I was on Burgos St (off Makati Ave; all taxis know it. Just say you are going to Burgos St). I took a girl into the back room. She was 21 and pretty and nice tits and body. No solid beauty but still Hot. She gave me a fast blowjob to get me fully erect. Then she fucked me as I held her ass cheeks and she rode me nicely.

It cost me P2000 and she wanted an extra P1500 and the old hag mamason wanted a tip for doing Absolutely nothing. I made a mental note to not fuck a girl in that Place again. It was the Club "Mirrors". All Clubs on Burgos St can be ripoffs. I took a girl out of the Club acrss the street from Mirrors on the corner. Cost me P1500 to the Bar for ST, P900 for a Room in a hotel next door and I tipped the girl P500 I think. She fucked me nicely and blew me good also. She was 22 and very cute.

I use this when really horny for a quick fuck. No desire to have one of these women hanging out with me. Just a nice fuck and then I am gone.

Dragon Slayer

Otari
12-06-12, 22:42
Thank you very much Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
02-09-13, 11:31
Guys,

Robust cost 45. 75 pesos at Rose Pharmacy in Ayala. Paid 49 pesos per tablet at Mercury Drub at Fuente Osmena (circle) here in Cebu. I will buy some more elsewhere before leaving Cebu heading home to USA.

I do not take it on an empty stomach as I was told by an MD to NEVER take vitamins or medication EVER without eating something first. Can try it and if you feel anuseous or have abdominal pains, eat some cooking, toast, rolls right away! I took a tablee an hour ago. My 19 year old and her "Rack of Gibraltor" are napping on my bed as I post here at the table. I will let you guys know later how the Robust did this time. So far, I have NOT used viagra once since I got the Robust. As essentially a vitamine supplement, robust has to be healthier for you.

Please note that Horny Al also highly recommends going to a Chinese Medicine Shop at the Malls in Cebu and Davao. Ask the Staff for Sex Pills. Then ask them which one is the best. He gave me two Chinese pills awhile ago that had me "straight and tall" for hours fucking away. Sadly, I neglected to keep the package they were in so I do not know what they were.

Anyone find Robust on the internet?

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
02-26-13, 20:29
Guys,

Checking mail this morning here in America. See an ad for "Testosterone SUpplements" online. The ad has a photo of a brunette, white skined lady of about 25, with huge tits hanging out of her dress top. Says,"Many men want testosterone supplements". With an advertisment like that, guys wi9ll be willing to try whatever you are selling. Price is no object!

The reality is that ROBUST, which can be purchased over the counter in any pharmacy in the Philippines work fabulously. As I stated, I began using it this past January and stopped with the vagra. No need for vagra which costs a lot more and is not as effective. Also, viagra has bad side effects. I saw no side effects with Robust, save for a cock made of steel the size of a small country. And staying like this for up to 12 hours!

Horny Al says to take two to be "All the Man you can BE!". Al knows what he is talking about. And at a cost of $1. 10-$1. 25 each, it is so cheap to be foolish to quibblee over taking two (except you may end up with an erection into the next day). I think that with the New Interest on this Forum for Robust, we could soon see an increase in price. My suggestion is to Stock Up Now! I will have one of the little Mommies mail me a dozen here in the USA. She thinks it is a viatmin supplement for my health (And IT IS!). She purchased it for me when buying my young son's medicine.

Discussion has it that the pill should be taken 1-2 hours prior to sex and on an empty stomach. I have not tried it on an empty stomach and I found that taking it with warm water, I was "a Man of Steel" 30 minutes later.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
06-07-13, 21:26
Guys,

Want to Note that Robust takes a couple hours (2-3) to "kick in". I found this out. It lasts up to twelve (12) hours but you might need something that works faster. I take 50 mg of Viagra with warm water. And in 30 minutes I am a :Man of Steel". If I intend to do some serious fucking during the day, I take a Robust tablet in the morning. I am then ready for fucking 2-4 times during the day and into the night. Of course, like the ancient joke told by Ronald Reagan at the White House to the Annual Party for all 50 Governors, it helps if you have more than one woman during the day. But my 19 year old and her huge tits give me enough of an "incentive" along with the Robust to fuck all day / night.

The joke by old RR refers to when Calvin Coolidge was President of the US. He toured a huge dairy farm with his wife and Staff. His wife was introduced to the prize bull on the Farm and told that he was used for breeding as much as ten times in a single day. Mrs. Coolidge says "ten times?" and gets the reply,"yes that is correct". She then says,"kindly tell this to the President". So when President Coolidge comes along they inform him of the bulls capability for fucking ten times in a day. He asks,"with only one cow?" and gets the reply,"oh no, we use a different cow every time". He then says,"please tell this to the First Lady".

I had a Post back in January 2012 during the Fiesta in Cebu City. I mentioned how I began the day with an awesome blowjob from my lovely 19 year old, cumming in her mouth. At noon I had another cute 19 year old come by and fuck me nicely. She had huge tits and was nursing a 4 month old baby. After fucking her I drank some of the milk from her right tit. She enjoyed this. Milk was much too sweet. She left to see her baby and at 8 PM I had yet a third 19 year old come over. We fucked within ten minutes of her arrival and I shot a load in her tight pussy that would have had old Aunt Martha wailing back in my teen years as I did her on the bench press in my Father's garage.

I was pondering whether the Monica Wolinsky" I got in the morning counted as SEX and if I could say I had a Trifecta!lovely 19 year olds in a single day! But then I got a text from my woman, the original 19 year old asking if she could come over then. I popped my second 50 mg Viagra tab of the day with a glass of warm water after showering (had to clean off the pussy juice from the lady who had just left after fucking me roy ally. Her Auntie was texting her to come home). I got her naked and fucked her hard for a slikd 45 minutes without stopping. Ended up shooting a "good load" of sperm into her lovebox. Looked at the time and it was 11:30PM. Got a BJ from one Lady in the early morning and fucked two other ladies during the day and then fucked her in the night. AWESOME!

One correction is that my Lady was only 18 at the time. Few months later she turned 19. And I later found out that the one who came by in the early even9ing to fuck me was also 18 and lied about being 19, thinking I would not want her as she was too young. Only legitimate 19 year old that day was the one at Noon with the nice rack full of milk. Bone Collector would bee pissed. I did my "Ode to the Bone Collector" (Little Chucky) three times after. Tough Shit Bones!

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer
07-05-13, 07:26
Guys,

I personally do NOT think Robust is that good. It takes 3-4 hours to work and I do NOT get the same results as with Viagra. Iagra takes about 20-30 minutes when taken with warm water. I used Viagra a couple times this Trip (goone now) and I found it much better than robust. Robust is okay but you have to take it early in the day not knowing if you need it or not, as the time for it to become effective is long. Cannot simply pop a tab with warm water and be a "Man of Stell" hald an hour or an hour later.

I took two tabs of Robust one can I had sever pain in my neck area. Also a headache. This lasted about 20 minutes but I never used two tablets again. I do not get this with Viagra and I always take only 50 mg of V. This woeks just fine.

Best thing I ever found was the Chinese sex pills Horny Al gave me. These worked good.

Dragon Slayer

KongKing
02-02-14, 05:50
Just wondering- Is Dragon Slayer alive and well in 2014?

Dragon Slayer
08-23-14, 20:18
Guys,

As most of you know I took a hiatus from posting for four months from the end of 2013 until March 2014. I want to mention a vitamin supplement called deferol. It is an over the counter supplement to enhance your sex life. In other words it helps make your dick hard and to stay hard longer. I tried it before my last Trip. I took one a day and on days when I thought I would fuck, I took an extra pill. On the day that I fucked the beautiful 20 year old with the three year old daughter, I took one of these early in the morning. It was the only thing I took. No Viagra, cialis, robust or the Chinese sex pills available at Chinese pharmacies in the Philippines.

As stated in the Davao Board I was anticipating fucking this gorgeous lady. SO horny for her, I jerked off early in the morning so that I would not be a "horny, wild man" when she arrived. It did no good! I got a huge erection as soon as I pulled one of her tits out of her blouse and noticed how big and full her tits were. She dresses very nicely but conservatively. So, her tits were hidden. This was in stark contrast to my lovely Jen of a few years prior or the sexy, hot looking 19 year old of recent times. Both of them had their tits exposed. Jen would wear a loose blouse so her big tits could be viewed (loved it) and the beautiful Ellen would wear low cut dresses so her huge "rack" was exposed, save for her big nipples.

This girl has a lovely body and huge tits. I had an erection the size of Los Angeles!. I was scrapping the paint off the ceiling when she "climbed on top" and stuck the lizard inside her. We fucked for a good 20 minutes and I shot a huge load into her that would have had old Aunt Martha wailing in my Father's garage back in my teen years (I would turn the radio up high to cover her wails).

Now it could be purely the result of her being so hot that I got a giant erection, in spite of having "strangled the lizard" a few hours earlier. But the deferol could have helped. I am uncertain BUT I just got a new supply of 40 deferol tablets ($ 29 online from Walgreens Pharmacy here in western US). Before my Trip I will order another 40 tablets and take them religiously each day!

Deferol requires no prescription and is available Online Only from Walgreens.

Dragon Slayer.

Radical Guy
08-25-14, 13:05
I shot a huge load into her that would have had old Aunt Martha wailing in my Father's garage back in my teen years (I would turn the radio up high to cover her wails).DS, one of these days, you should post in detail about your relationship with old Aunt Martha. Sounds like quite a story, even if it's off topic.

RG.

Dragon Slayer
08-28-14, 03:23
Guys,

I just want to relate my experience this last Trip. I have been booking with Hotels.com now as I think Agoda.com is a joke. I first booked the Marco Polo Plaza Hotel in Cebu City for early July for four nights. I decided I needed a bigger room with a kingsize bed so I booked a Deluxe Grand Room. The net price on this, as I reported in the Cebu Board, was $ 107. When I returned to Cebu in early August I used hotels.com and I again booked the Marco Polo Plaza Hotel. This time I booked a Superior Room, the least expensive room they had. It was $ 77 Net Price.

As I did the first time, at check-in, I requested a room near the elevator and one with a walk in shower. I was placed in the EXAC SAME ROOM (different floor) as the first time. BUT, I paid $ 30/ night less for the room. My suggestion is that you book the hotel for the least expensive room and then politely state your preference when you are at the front desk checking in. I think it IS a good idea to dress nicely, leaving the shorts, t-shirts and sandals / sneakers in your bags. Smile a lot and mention how you intend to bee coming here quite regularly now.

I had a similar experience a few years ago at the Marco Polo in Davao when I returned after Wolfgang left as GM at Apoview Hotel, turning the Hotel in to a real fucking dump! I was then asked, at the front desk, if I wished to upgrade to the Continental Club. I said Yes and the Upgrade Price brought it to less than what I ever paid.

Booking through hotels.com gives you a free night for every ten nights you stay. Last Trip, had I booked all my rooms in all the hotels through hotels.com I would have had three free nights. Not bad!

Dragon Slayer.

Wicked Roger
08-28-14, 04:17
Guys,


Booking through hotels.com gives you a free night for every ten nights you stay. Last Trip, had I booked all my rooms in all the hotels through hotels.com I would have had three free nights. Not bad!

Dragon Slayer.I tend to use the same web site but also I check hotelscombined for prices.

http://www.hotelscombined.com/

This is good and gives the prices on other site but make sure it is like for like etc (ie some exclude tax etc).

Agoda I have used DS on the odd occasion when the price is so low I can't refuse to use their services but I do find them annoying in that you need to print off the booking and show it to the hotel unlike other sites I use.

Dragon Slayer
09-16-14, 09:19
Guys,

Has anyone here tried the deferol? I think you should take two (2) tablets in the morning to keep your dick healthy and strong. Again, no prescription needed and simply go to the Walgreens Pharmacy website (omit pharmacy and do the usual).

Correct me if I am wrong but we can NOW STAY 30 days without a VISA. Up from 21 before. I found this out when leaving. Also, the guys at the Tariff Desk who collect the 4,040 peso penalty fee for overstaying checked and informed me this time to get a VISA when I am going through Immigration. Cost is ONLY 750 pesos and it takes only a few minutes they told me. Saves a lot and then you are good for up to six weeks I think with this Entry VISA. The Office is on the left side just before the Immigration windows.

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
11-17-14, 22:36
Guys,

At the start of my last Trip I met up with my longtime Pal, Horny Al. As you may know Al and I go way back and years ago he did me a huge favor that comes in line with the Japanese concept known as giri. This IS an obligation of immense magnitude that can NEVER be repaid! Needless to say, Al has been making the utmost use of this concept.

I call him Horny AL for two (2) reasons: 1) his name IS Al and 2) he IS horny. In fact he is one of the horniest man I have ever encountered on my travels throughout the world. Al is constantly stating how badly he needs to get laid. I admire a man who knows EXACTLY WHAT he WANTS AND GOES AFTER IT WITH A PASSION. Al wants pussy and he wants pussy all the time.

I met up with Al at a Club just off Burgos St in the world famous red light district. I actually enjoy this area even though the prices can run from the Expensive to the Rediculous. One thing that IS NOT Expensive is Viagra. I got into the Club after Al met me outside the entrance. He IS a well known person, sort of a celebrity in this Club. As I enter I indicate that I need to purchase Viagra. He gets one of the doormen over and I tell him to go out and purchase seven (7) four packs of 100 MG Viagra for me from the guys selling on the Street. He tells me he cannot get me that much for only 1,000 pesos. I tell the guy to "blow me a good one". I hand him 1,000 peso note and I tell him to bring me back the 7 four packs of V NOW.

The guy scratches his head and goes out. He is back in 10 minutes with the 7 boxes. All have been opened for inspection first as AL and I both instructed him. This IS to make certain there IS four (4) tabs of V in each box. He tells me he bought it from a friend of his on the Street and was surprised to learn that you could get this much for only 1,000 pesos.

I no longer use Robust which can be purchased, over the counter, at any pharmacy in the Philippines for 45 pesos per tablet ($ 1 US). It takes a good four (4) hours to kick in and I do not think it is as effective as Viagra. It may last for 12 hours but you can always pop another 50 MG V tab to get your dick "rock hard" again!

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
01-24-15, 02:34
Guys,

I am getting far more PMs than Posts in my Forum. I prefer the Posts and I take a bit of time to reply to PMs, as you have noticed.

Did you all see the photo I posted in the Mindanao Board this morning? I am wondering if Facebook has some sort of method of monitoring and removing photos of the Prurient nature. Is there some old fuck with spectacles and bald head viewing Posts to make certain they meet his criteria for "acceptable". Or worse yet, some old hag, the kind that Jellyfish like, reviewing Facebook posts and deleting those that do not meet "Standards for Decency". I mean the founder of Facebook with all the "behind the back sneaky shit he pulled" (cheated his partner / best friend out of his interest in Facebook and got hit with a massive lawsuit which he was forced to settle), would NOT have some fuckwad reviewing ALL posts.

In Any event, it IS clear that some photos DO get by these "Holier than Shit" Assholes. Man, What a Photo! And the girl even replied inquiring why it would make me useless to work the rest of the day. View it yourselves and let me know what you think. And by the way, the Lady IS HOTTT!

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
02-26-15, 17:53
Guys,

I still get PMs but NO POSTS from guys. GOt so sick and tired of this that I stopped responding to the PMs. One guy wrote me several PMs telling me his ENTIRE LIFE STORY!. Went on for pages. Thought he was writing his autobiography and sending me a few chapters at a time to proofread. I kept telling him to POST IN MY FORUM. He constantly replied, "no, this is only for you to read" (like I give a tinker's fuck).

I get PMs asking me how I get regular ladies with college degrees and good Employment (teachers, MDs, Lawyers, etc) to fuck me right away and also permit me to photograph them nude. It has to do with first, making the lady feel Special and Sexy and Beautiful.

The how NOT to do this can be shown using an example from my old enemy here i8 n my City, "Bone Collector". Bones earned his nickname by literally having "more 'skeletons' in his closet than at the county morgue". He lives a life that is phonier than a three dollar bill, full of lies and deception. He told me 12 years ago about this ISG Forum and that he was spending 4-6 hours DAILY reading posts in every possible area. Yet, he never joined. Told me it could damage his reputation (what reputation? Everyone knows he is a Lying Piece of Shit).

Bones has a few lowlifes like him that he associates with here. He was eagerly relating how one of these Losers meets a cute, sexy girl and gets her back to his apartment. She gets naked and the guy sees a huge, furry "Bush" of pubic hair covering her pussy entrance. Like the scumbag that he IS, he yells out, "Damn, shave that 'Bush' The girl is embarrassed, ashamed and insulted. She dresses in a moment and runs from his apartment. All the time, Asshole is laughing his pathetic head off over how he hurt the girl. Bones thought this was the funniest story he ever heard.

The guy hurt a cute lady and he DID NOT GET LAID! Sort of like every night for ol Bones. He also related how he and another of his Loser Friends were out drinking one night. The one asswipe goes up to a cute girl. He does NOT say Hello, but he Sticks his Tongue in Her Ear! Both he and Bones are tossed out of the Club. Lucky they were not arrested. Again, Bones thought this was "so fucking funny". NOT GETTING LAID BUT GETTING THROWN OUT OF A CLUB!

You compliment the Lady. Make and hold eye contact with her and smile only slightly. Compliment the blouse she is wearing, her perfume, anything that will sound genuine and sincere. After she appears really interested, invite her to join you for a few drinks. Then to your Hotel. I have used this dozens of times in Davao and Cebu. Just be suttle and move slowly. Be polite and make the lady think she IS Very Special. I had a girl in Makati City once who, when nude, showed me a thick Bush of pubic hair. I rubbed my fingers through her forest, told her it felt like silk and kissed the hairy Bush. I assfucked her first. When I got my dick hard a second time, I fucked her in her pussy. She was a virgin and the initial fucking in her ass was due to that hole being easier to penetrate. She blew me magnificently after I shot a "load of cum" into her lovebox (after first filling her ass with my cum.

I DID GET LAID! Beautiful, Young, Sexy Girl and a VIRGIN. Bones would have spent the entire evening laughing his nuts off in his room, ALONE, having insulted the girl about her hairy Bush. Buut then Bones had a VERY HARD TIME GETTING AN ERECTION ANYWAY. He was nicknamed by some Chinese girls I knew back then as "Chuck no can get it up". Due to his inability to get an erection with the huge titted Chinese girl I set him up with back in the '90's. : Sherry must stroke Chuck's dick long time, very long time. Still, Chuck no can get it up. Great nickname for ol Bones!

Dragon Slayer.

Radical Guy
02-26-15, 19:32
Bones has a few lowlifes like him that he associates with here. He was eagerly relating how one of these Losers meets a cute, sexy girl and gets her back to his apartment. She gets naked and the guy sees a huge, furry "Bush" of pubic hair covering her pussy entrance. Like the scumbag that he IS, he yells out, "Damn, shave that 'Bush' The girl is embarrassed, ashamed and insulted. She dresses in a moment and runs from his apartment. All the time, Asshole is laughing his pathetic head off over how he hurt the girl. Bones thought this was the funniest story he ever heard.What an imbecile! Personally, I prefer a girl with a naturally thick Bush. It sure beats getting a face rash from rubbing your face against pubic hair stubble.

RG.

Dragon Slayer
05-25-15, 03:09
Guys,

Please purchase and carry with you a bottle of Pepto Bismol tablets. They can be purchased at any pharmacy in the USA. I bought them on a recommendation of a Pharmacist a couple years ago. I would imagine that Mercury Drug and Rose's Pharmacy in the Philippines also carry this. You can go online and purchase from Walgreen's Pharmacy. Just add the dot com to the end of Walgreen's.

When you begin to feel nausea or stomach pain AFTER EATING OR DRINKING something, Immediately take two of these pills. If pain and discomfort persists, take two more an hour later. I ate something that made me sick upon my return home. I took two of these capsules and it was over immediately. These DO WORK!

I would guess that everyone is aware that you can now purchase Sydanifil pills (generic Viagra) over the counter without a prescription in any Mercury Drug store in the Philippines. I bought five (5) 100 MG tablets for 700 pesos ($ 15.75 US) a week ago. I used half a tablet so far and YES, IT WORKS!

I tried a robust tablet ten days ago in Davao City with the lovely 20 year old Filipina that I met / fucked last August in Davao City. I wrote at length about how she was easily the BEST FUCK I HAD IN 2014. She got upset or whatever and disappeared a few hours after fucking me. She is now back at age 21 and still lovely. The robust did NOT work and I was a limp dick and she was trying hard to "make me hard". I popped a tablet of "Black Ant", some Chinese pill. My dick was hard and swollen within an hour. So, we fucked magnificently. I did not try any of the robust pills again. I had taken the one pill five (5) hours earlier than when we had sex, so the 4 hour time needed for it to work was not a question.

Black Ant works fine. I bought mine on Burgos Street in Makati City. I paid the guy my usual 1,000 pesos ($ 22.50 US) for seven (7) Four packs of the Black Ant. This IS the same price I pay for seven four packs of 100 MG Viagra here. However, I prefer to purchase the generic Viagra at Mercury Drug at the higher price. You know what you are getting when you do this.

There is a Mercury Drug store down the block to the left from the Marco Polo Hotel in Davao City. A taxi took me there and, after all these years, I had no idea it was there. You can walk to it from the MP but take a taxi the first time to make certain you find it as it is of the main street.

Dragon Slayer.

Jp Slicky
05-25-15, 12:01
DS,

Are you not a bit concerned about buying on the streets at Burgoes or about anywhere I Phils?

Buying from some guy on the street shares me a bit.

Or you but from same guy all the time?

Your thoughts?

WestCoast1
05-25-15, 20:17
DS,

Are you not a bit concerned about buying on the streets at Burgoes or about anywhere I Phils?

Buying from some guy on the street shares me a bit.

Or you but from same guy all the time?

Your thoughts?I buy things from street vendors routinely. Never had a problem.

Dragon Slayer
05-26-15, 15:17
Guys,

I have been purchasing Viagra on Burgos Street for at least eight years. I never have had any side effects or problems, save for my dick. It would stick up straight and be about twice as thick as it normally is and I would have to unzip my pants to give the "big fells" some "breathing room". BUT I have heard some stories from GoodEnough concerning guys becoming sick in some way within a day or so of taking the street purchased Viagra.

Now that safe generic Viagra can be purchased very easily at ANY MERCURY DRUG STORE in the Philippines, I see no need to buy the street bought Viagra. Yes, I pay 700 pesos for five (5) 100 MG tablets and this is a lot more than what I pay on Burgos St BUT I have a good idea that what I am buying is the real item and safe.

I bought the black ant on Burgos St because I tried it once and it worked fine. I am unaware of any pharmacy selling this Chinese sex pill. So, I went to Burgos St to buy it. Actually, I was already there with my Pal, Horny Al, whom I have written about many times in the past, mostly in the Mindanao.

The Robust did not work for me this time and I had taken it five (5) hours earlier (supposed to give it 3-4 hours to work). I still have five more robust pills and I may try one next trip.

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
06-10-15, 18:36
Guys, I got a lot of PMs from guys concerning what medication to take to insure a stiff, strong dick for a good amount of time. I still believe that Viagra works the best. I tried the black ant and it is not as good and appears to take a few hours to work. Now what the fuck do you tell your gorgeous, Asian lady (or any lady)? "Be patient honey, we just have to give it a few hours to work". You'll get laid a lot with that one.

Years ago a doctor Client of mine told me that taking any medication with warm water will accelerate the effects. Warm means around 80-90 F. I do this all the time.

I posted years ago in the Cebu Board about my first ever bona fide Threesome. I was in Cebu at the Robinson's Mall at Fuente (circle). I had just purchased my Cebu Pacific ticket to Davao. I was drinking coffee at the Shop on the 2nd floor of the Mall right in front of the entrance. This Cafť has since been remodeled but the layout is still the same. You sit at tables in the mall and watch people walk by.

It was around 10:00 AM and few people were around. I noticed a pretty, slender girl sit at a table alone. I invited her to join me. She told me, "wait a moment till my friend gets back". They both joined me. The first was a lovely 19 year old and the second was 21. We got talking as we sipped drinks. I had a feeling this was going to work out, so I took a 50 MG Viagra tab with my coffee. They accompanied me back to my Hotel. I placed my wallet in the hotel safe deposit box I had and we went to my room. We agreed on P 1,000 each.

The 21 year old proceeded to get nude and then give me a nice blowjob. It was only 30 minutes since I took my V yet my dick was huge and "rock hard". The other came out of the bathroom naked and joined me on the bed. I sucked her tits as the other girl blew my dick. I then had the 21 year old stop blowing me and stuck my dick inside her. We fucked in a couple different positions and then I motioned for the 19 year old.

She quickly got onto my dick as soon as the 21 year old withdrew it from her hole. The 19 year old had a very tight pussy hole and she smiled at me as I fucked her. I could not hold it for long and shot a heavy load into her vagina, more than enough to have ol Aunt Martha wail outloud back when I was 17. I paid the two and gave each a large chocolate bar and they departed. I ran into each at later dates but never together. I fucked the 21 year old a few months later together with a 2nd 21 year old with an awesome body. She Absolutely looked better with her clothes off than dressed. A couple years later at the same cafť I met the 19 year old again, now 22. Together with a 24 year old from her Barangay, I fucked them both nicely.

Only thing I found that was better than the Viagra was a blue, round pill which was a Chinese Sex Pill. It worked fantastic! I got two of them from Horny Al who told me he purchased them at a Chinese Herb Store in some Mall. He did not remember the name but told me to go into any Chinese Herb Store in a Mall and ask for 'sex pills' and ask which are the best sellers.

Does anyone know where to find Chinese Herb Shops in Cebu, Makati or Davao that sell Chinese sex pills?

Dragon Slayer.

Geneva Guy
06-10-15, 19:06
Slayer,

Just so you know that we DO read your posts (they are always very interesting). A bit more information.

Drugs like Viagra and Cialis are "changed" in the body by a very specific process. Some of this happens before the drugs get into your blood. Since the drugs can be costly, there is a way to get more "bang for your buck". That is, take the drugs with either a glass of fresh or frozen grapefruit juice, but you cannot use canned or bottled juice. Grapefruit juice has some natural ingredients in that that reduce these drugs from being "changed" as fast (when they are changed. They are not effective. I won't use the medical term "metabolized") If you do this. You can use 1/2 the dose of these drugs with the grapefruit juice.

Also. To get a faster effect. Crush the tablet and take the powder. Drugs need to be a liquid to be absorbed from the gut into the blood (similar to your suggestion to use warm water). So it works faster.

DS. When you pump sperm into these girls. You carry some morning after pills with you? I am not "fixed" so I have started carrying these with me since I find that both the Filipinas and the Viets will go bare anytime you want to (oh. And probably your Aunt Martha too yes?) And I don't want any little GG's running around SE Asia LOL.

GG

Dragon Slayer
06-15-15, 00:12
Guys,

I just heard this and I want to make certain anyone on the US West Coast reads it. Cathay Pacific, rated one of the Top Four Airlines in the World in Service and Comfort (includes food & beverages served in flight). It begins service from SFO to Hong Kong in a few days. In Late July it begins service from SFO to Manila and a week later from SFO to Cebu. Fares through Dec 15 are locked in at $ 784 Round Trip in Economy Class for Manila and $ 747 Round Trip Economy Class to Cebu. You can fly to San Francisco from virtually any place in the western USA via Southwest Airlines or US Airways. Not sure of prices but they had offered deep, advance purchase discounted fares in years past.

An Employee of one of the US Airlines recently wrote an Article on his Experiences flying the Four Top Rated Airlines on International Flights in Business Class. He paid full fare and when all was said and done, he rated Cathay Pacific behind only EMirates Air. Singapore Airlines, considered # 1 in Service and Amenities (not to mention gorgeous flight attendants) was rated lowest of the Four in BOTH Service (poor and had to get up twice for water in Business Class) and Quality (Food was mediocre at best and small portions).

He rated Emirates # 1, Cathay Pacific # 2, # 3 (lazy in flight crew and lousy food; IN BUSINESS CLASS) and Singapore AIrlines # 4 WORST!

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
06-16-15, 20:21
Guys,

The Airline rated # 3 based on the Airline Employee's experiences travelling in Business Class internationally was Qatar Airline. The top four Airlines in the world are Singapore, Cathay Pacific, Emirates and Qatar according for various travel networks and consultants. This guy flew them all on separate, international flights to determine which was the best. He rated Emirates # 1 (has full service bar in Business Class, complete with couches fitted with seat belts so as not to have to return to your seat when turbulence appears. It also has a bartender and stereo music.

Geneva Guy, what are you a chemist? Main concern for all of us here is effectiveness of the Viagra, etc. Here, in the USA viagra / Cialis are expensive, like most drugs sold in pharmacies and it requires a MD's prescription (trip to your MD, physical, $ 150 Fee to MD).

I need to mention to you guys that for excellent physical performance you DO need to keep physically fit and on a good diet. Many of the expats I encounter in the Philippines (Thailand before) were smokers, heavy drinkers and over weight. You have to QUIT SMOKING, go very easy on the drinking and eliminate salt in your diet and fatty foods. I seriously doubt any of the guys will do any of this.

I never smoked a day in my life but I did have a lousy diet and I drank way too much. I got very ill back in April 2008 and was hospitalized for eight (8) nights. I was then recovering at home for another month. I reduced my drinking to about 10% of what it had been, reduced salt in my diet by 90% and began to sleep good, work less and rest more. I ate only fresh foods. Result was I ended up with my last three (3) sons, Conor, Colin and Dylan. Not that you want this to happen but it does underscore that when you become healthy, your body changes for the better.

Eliminate ALL Filipino food from your diet. It is loaded with salt and fats. Stop the beer and whiskey and the diet soft drinks. When training and losing weight years ago, a professional trainer told me to stop drinking diet soft drinks as they are loaded with salt. I just read an article in a health journal that diet soft drinks use a sweetener that has the EFFECT OF DAMAGING YOUR SEX DRIVE AND SEXUAL PERFORMANCE! Studies were done and the results are conclusive that soft drinks consumed regularly, will reduce, dramatically, a person's ability to sexually perform.

Now I know none of you guys will listen to me on any of this. But I feel better if I at least put it out there. And drink your coffee or tea without sweetener or use ONLY real sugar. A health specialist and two doctor clients of mine mentioned how bad the artificial sweeteners were for your health. And only real cream or milk in the coffee or tea. None of that powdered crap!

Stay Healthy, Get Laid More and Much Better!

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
06-21-15, 03:19
Geneva Guy,

Where are you picking up your Morning After Pills? I stopped seeing a few ladies because they decided they wanted to have a baby with me. No matter that I am "up to my ears" in children. In their minds there was "always room for one more". What was that reality tv show, "19 Kids and counting"? Couple appeared to be total halfwits from how there spoke on tv during a recent interview about one son's sexual misconduct. I never saw the Show but it had a huge audience apparently. Tons of people out there with nothing but TIME ON THEIR HANDS.

I had a huge titted 19 year old (began to first fuck her when she was 18) with a very hot body that I fucked regularly in Davao. I even made a video with her once while we fucked, and she screamed out loud and gave a play by play of how good my dick felt inside her for the viewers. She cam by once when I had to go out to Cebuano Lhuillier to wire funds for my Daughter and eldest Son. She got the idea that it was a "smart move" for her to become pregnant with a baby from me. Fortunately she informed me of this so I could move on.

I fucked a girl in Leyte once with huge tits and a lovely body. I shot a full load into her body. Told her to take a Morning After Pill the following morning. She already had a young daughter by some Filipino. Her reply was, "you should be happy to have a baby with me". These women love to have children with.

Western men they believe to be Wealthy and Successful.

Most Filipinas perceive ALL western men as "Wealthy and Successful" by virtue of their simply being westerners. Huge titted Marites whom I fucked regularly in Cebu back in the mid '90's worked at Our Place, the dive bar Ex-0 pat hangout in downtown Cebu. She once told me that Old Bob, a drunk and retired longshoreman (loaded freight on ships in London) was a "secret millionaire". He lived in a beat up building on Sangciangko street, down from Our Place and received monthly Social Security checks as his sole source of income. Secret millionaire alright!

Dragon Slayer.

Geneva Guy
06-21-15, 13:07
Hi DS,

IN fact, I live in NY and bring the morning after pills from the USA. There are generic versions now so the price has dropped (about $33 USD). And for me, that cost is reasonable to prevent being a daddy in Asia.

The morning after pill is simply a large dose of levonogesterol (a progesterone, not an estrogen). Unfortunately, the amount of levonogesterol in oral contraceptives is only 0. 15 MG, and in the morning after pill is 1. 5 MG. So you cannot buy oral contraceptives and use them for a morning after pill, you would have to give the girl 10 oral contraceptive pills to get enough levonogesterol and they would get sick from all of the estrogen they would get.

I find that many of the pinays have no idea when their menses begin and end (or they say that). I fucked a girl in Bacolod city when I was there in April and asked her about her menses cause I wanted to pump a big load of cum deep into her pussy. Nope, she didn't know. So I pulled out and came all over her instead (I also find the if you are in their pussy and want to cum in their mouth, they are against that). And I agree, I have had a number of them ask me to "make a guapo baby for me". Ummm. Nope, think I'll pass on that, my daddy days are over.

I don't know if you can buy morning after pills in PHIL. But I would guess not (Catholic church) although they can buy many types of oral contraceptives at the pharmacies without prescriptions. I don't get to PHIL too much but you may want to ask at a pharmacy, levonogesterol 1.5 MG.

So. Must be you ask them before you cum in them? Myself. I would be nervous, the pinay brain is different hehehe.

In Vietnam, seems the girls are more aware of when their periods are. So you can figure out if it is their safe time or not. I think every Viet girl I have fucked has walked away full of my cum in her pussy. Ahhh.

I agree with your statements, not smoking, drinking excessive alcohol and no illicit drug. Has done me well.

Anyway, again, I personally enjoy your forum. And I bet there are more than 6-7 guys that read it.

GG

Sammon
06-21-15, 13:32
Geneva Guy,

Where are you picking up your Morning After Pills? I stopped seeing a few ladies because they decided they wanted to have a baby with me. No matter that I am "up to my ears" in children. In their minds there was "always room for one more". What was that reality tv show, "19 Kids and counting"? Couple appeared to be total halfwits from how there spoke on tv during a recent interview about one son's sexual misconduct. I never saw the Show but it had a huge audience apparently. Tons of people out there with nothing but TIME ON THEIR HANDS.

I had a huge titted 19 year old (began to first fuck her when she was 18) with a very hot body that I fucked regularly in Davao. I even made a video with her once while we fucked, and she screamed out loud and gave a play by play of how good my dick felt inside her for the viewers. She cam by once when I had to go out to Cebuano Lhuillier to wire funds for my Daughter and eldest Son. She got the idea that it was a "smart move" for her to become pregnant with a baby from me. Fortunately she informed me of this so I could move on.

I fucked a girl in Leyte once with huge tits and a lovely body. I shot a full load into her body. Told her to take a Morning After Pill the following morning. She already had a young daughter by some Filipino. Her reply was, "you should be happy to have a baby with me". These women love to have children with.

Western men they believe to be Wealthy and Successful.

Most Filipinas perceive ALL western men as "Wealthy and Successful" by virtue of their simply being westerners. Huge titted Marites whom I fucked regularly in Cebu back in the mid '90's worked at Our Place, the dive bar Ex-0 pat hangout in downtown Cebu. She once told me that Old Bob, a drunk and retired longshoreman (loaded freight on ships in London) was a "secret millionaire". He lived in a beat up building on Sangciangko street, down from Our Place and received monthly Social Security checks as his sole source of income. Secret millionaire alright!

Dragon Slayer.While it is admirable how you accept responsibility and bring up your children well, there are many others who do not. I know of some girls who used to be with me but still friends with tell me different. Is is well known that Phi women do not use protection and do not care about " Morning after Pill ". I hear complaints that foreign men make babies and abandon them. Somehow the girl thinks it is not their fault as well. Irrespective of whose fault it is Phi women love to have a foreign baby. In fact as evidenced by population they love to have as many children as possible. It does not matter if they are too poor to support. Somehow the whole family and extended family helps them raise the children. They just want children and also know the foreign man may vanish. There are no guarantees. Just because they say they want a baby with you does not mean WU money is flowing regularly.

As to birth control My lady in Manila who I still see gets a Depo Shot before we meet and it is good for three months. Others I see do not care. So far only one pinned me as being the father but later admitted it is by her Phi BF after I wanted to get a DNA swab.

Definitely western men has more money by the power of dollars whether it is by social security or otherwise. It is more than what these girls have. I guess if you live nearby the girls can force you to pay child support.

Dragon Slayer
07-27-15, 21:28
Geneva Guy,

You never did answer my question as to where you purchase "morning After pills". Your reply is very, very similar to what Obama's spokesperson said right after the "Iran Nuclear (ripoff) Agreement" was reached. The woman beat around numerous questions like 1) who will DO the Actual Inspections and 2) Why we agree to anything with Iran when they are our arch enemy and 3) How can we reach an Agreement that does NOT bring the four (4) US hostages in Iran home. She went on at length about the talks taking along time and how excited she was. SHE NEVER ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS ABOVE.

In any event, after 25 years travelling to the Philippines on a 3-5 times a year basis for from 2 -7 weeks each trip, I think I have a certain grasp on whether or not Filipinas want as many babies as they can have or want to have a foreign baby. I personally know at least a dozen women in the Philippines who have babies by foreigners who abandoned them when they got pregnant. One met a Canadian man on holiday and was with him for a week in November four (4) year ago. Soon, she got found out that she was pregnant. Fucking cocksucker told her it was NOT his baby and he did not care anyway. She is struggling to raise her daughter. I saw the baby and she IS definitely half western.

Another girl met a US guy who works in LOS Angeles for American Airlines. Piece of shit took a vacation to Manila. He promised to marry her. Fucked her a dozen times and got her pregnant. Even told her it was NOT his baby and that the hairs and tissue she sent to him in a plastic wrapper were DNA tested and it was not his. Fact that he was the only guy she was fucking made no difference to Lowlife American Airlines Employee (think he is a shitty flight attendant). DNA tests in the USA run around $ 850. I know this as one of my Clients was an Investigator with Chi8 ld Protective Services. She had arranged and overseen hundreds of DNA tests and told me the average cost. No way this airline waiter would shell out $ 850.

Another was a 61 year old BUM from Australia. He lived with a beautiful, very sexy 20 year old in Cebu for six months. He got her pregnant and returned to Australia. The Aussie scumbag laughed when told of the baby girl and said, "if I ever win the lottery I will send you a few dollars". I hope he gets run over by a herd of kangaroos in the outback. Girl has resorted to online cam shows, nude, to earn money to support her baby. I also saw this baby and it IS a western child.

Lastly, we have my huge titted lady in Cebu, the former 19 year old (now 20) that I fucked since she just turned 18. She got pissed off when I could not send her money by Christmas (problem with my laptop). I got it to her before NYE but she still told me a week later to get lost. She met and got with a wealthy guy from Germany. He took her travelling with him and got her a place in Lapu Lapu. She got pregnant and a month later he was gone. I had her and her baby with me in Davao last May. She refers to this German as "the Asshole father of my baby".

This IS a hard topic with me. I see too much abuse of Filipinas by western men. One of a dozen reasons why I will NEVER introduce any western guy to a lady in the Phils or elsewhere.

On a final note, I booked my flight to the Philippines. I tried what worked once before and searched flights beginning two weeks from now and slowly worked forward until I found a cheap flight. Booked it in a "New York Heartbeat"!

Dragon Slayer.

Geneva Guy
07-28-15, 01:49
DS,

Oh. If you look at post #202. I did reply. I buy the pills in the USA at pharmacies. I buy the generic versions, about $33 USD and they are over the counter, no prescription needed. You can buy them in any pharmacy and even in Walmart.

Sorry. I never blow off a senior member. Maybe I just wasn't clear when I said this before.

GG

James Bond 1
07-29-15, 01:38
I buy the pills in the USA at pharmacies. I buy the generic versions, about $33 USD and they are over the counter, no prescription needed. You can buy them in any pharmacy and even in Walmart.I see All Day Chemist (online seller in India) has these for < $5 each. They're made by Cipla (who I believe are reputable).

Dragon Slayer
07-30-15, 21:55
Guys,

I had several girls inform me that they bought Morning After Pills at 360 Pharmacy on Colon St, Cebu City (one just north of Fuente Osmena also) and at Sav More Pharmacy on Ponciano St in Davao City. Told me the pills cost 60 pesos each. Sounds cheap. Birth Control Pills cost 300 pesos for a month's supply. This I do know.

I am not sure I would want to give a Lady a pill to take from India. We need more discussion on this. I also find that when some women see how I interact with my young son in Davao, they get ideas. Same if they see his Mother come to get him. She always dresses nicely and she is getting her hair, nails and makeup done at a Beauty Salon on a regular basis now.

I can't do much about them seeing me with my Son as I want him around me. Not about to begin beating him or screaming at him. So, they think I would make a good Father for a child of theirs. I do intend to keep his Mother away from any of the ladies.

Dragon Slayer.

George03
07-30-15, 22:19
Small but terrible! (or terrible).

I keep seeing this on FC or DIA profiles. Any translation?

Member #4351
07-30-15, 22:36
Dragon Slayer,

Here is some information I found about a year ago pertaining to the subject at hand:

"It is surprising that many Filipinos still don't know much about the morning-after pill. There are several regular contraceptive pills you can use for this purpose: Lady, Microgynon 30, Nordette, Rigevidon 21+7, Trinordiol, Tri-Regol, Nordiol 21, Femenal, Logynon. Those pills either have a combination of Levonorgestrel / Estradiol or Norgestrel / Estradiol. The amounts of hormones also vary among brands thus there are different dosages for these pills. For example:

*Lady, Microgynon, Nordette - 4 tabs taken as soon as possible after coitus (not more than 72 hrs) then 4 more tabs taken 12 hrs later.

*Femenal - 2 tabs within 72 hrs then another 2 tabs 12 hrs later.

The most common reactions are nausea, vomiting, abdominal cramps. The nausea can be very severe but they subside after a day. There are more serious side effects like stroke (usually among smokers) but the incidence is rare.

2 tabs of Bonamine one hour before taking the pills can lessen the nausea and vomiting which are common side-effects. ".

Dragon Slayer
07-31-15, 15:56
George 03,

Good to see you post here. Based on recent PMs I have received and new posters here there are NOW at least 15 people reading my Forum. I, of course, am basing this on guys who post (most of whom post here regularly) and guys who send me PMS here. GoodEnough has met, by my unofficial count, at least 300 ISG Members. I heard him relate to me AFTER a business trip to another Country, "Slayer, you have thousands of guys reading your posts. When I told them my ISG moniker, first thing I got asked was 'what is this guy Dragon Slayer like'.

In any event, "Small But Terrible" is occasionally used by a tiny lady to tell you that 1) she is wild, as in "a wild fuck", or, more likely, 2) she has a very bad temper. If you date one of these ladies, most likely you will see the second. Tread carefully with women who use this self description. Just not worth the nonsense.

I tried DIA for a One Time test when I visited the Philippines last October / November 2014. I found it to be a total fucking waste of time! It IS where I met ALL the fat girls in Davao City that I posted in abundance on last November / December. Only one photo, 90% just "head shots", leaves little to determine how the women look. I was NOT able to get any of the women to chat on webcam to determine how they actually looked. If you read my Posts in Davao from the end of last year and January 2015, you will see how I waited more than an hour for a fat girl to meet me for dinner at Henny's with my young Son. As we left, I commented to Henny, "she would be a pretty, sexy lady if she lost 30 pounds". Note that on a woman who is five feet tall (152 cm), an extra 30 lbs is a really fat *itch!

I had another Fat Pig show up, also an hour late, for breakfast in the rooftop, private Club, inside the Marco Polo Hotel. Again, I was with my Son. I guess he went home and told his Mommy that "Daddy is becoming a 'Pig Farmer'.

I also encountered, on text, the Four Assholes. Again, I met one through DIA and I never did find out if it was one, two or four women texting me. I got a solid 30-40 texts / day for three days from this group of assholes. One told me she was "on her way" one morning to dine with me and my Son in the Continental Club atop the MP Hotel. She kept texting me to WAIT. At 11:00 AM, she was not there and breakfast ended. We waited for this worthless, piece of shit for an hour after we were done. I almost asked the Club to put out a breakfast for her for when she arrived.

Turns out she was simply "fucking with me", and had no intention of joining us. Another texted me that she was in front of the MP Hotel and for me to go out and meet her. I called down to the bellboys, all of whom know me by name, and I asked them to get her. Turns out that there was no one waiting outside the Hotel and the Security Guards at the Entrance to the Hotel driveway confirmed that no one was anywhere around the Hotel. I had to ignore their numerous texts for several days before they grew weary of "fucking with my head" via text.

DIA is free. Remember, YOU REALLY DO GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR IN LIFE!

Dragon Slayer.

George03
07-31-15, 17:22
Thanks for the info.

I have been to Phil twice. Manila, Cebu, and Davao the first time. I used FC and had two girls that I skipped, YM, etc before meeting, all turned out well. I met one of them again on the second trip. Both times I combined these with LA Cafe etc. If I can find a good flight, may come back in a couple of months.

I actually saw an older women in my town in the US on FC that had the small but terrible. Not that attractive but I am not always that picky.


George 03,

Good to see you post here. Based on recent PMs I have received and new posters here there are NOW at least 15 people reading my Forum. I, of course, am basing this on guys who post (most of whom post here regularly) and guys who send me PMS here. GoodEnough has met, by my unofficial count, at least 300 ISG Members. I heard him relate to me AFTER a business trip to another Country, "Slayer, you have thousands of guys reading your posts. When I told them my ISG moniker, first thing I got asked was 'what is this guy Dragon Slayer like'.

In any event, "Small But Terrible" is occasionally used by a tiny lady to tell you that 1) she is wild, as in "a wild fuck", or, more likely, 2) she has a very bad temper. If you date one of these ladies, most likely you will see the second. Tread carefully with women who use this self description. Just not worth the nonsense.

I tried DIA for a One Time test when I visited the Philippines last October / November 2014. I found it to be a total fucking waste of time! It IS where I met ALL the fat girls in Davao City that I posted in abundance on last November / December..

D Cups
07-31-15, 19:48
at least 15 people reading my Forum...
DIA is free... Hi DS, I read your stuff with interest. Have to disagree with you DIA, tho. It's been a goldmine for me. Probably 3 out of 5. Cheers.

Geneva Guy
07-31-15, 22:40
Dragon Slayer,

Here is some information I found about a year ago pertaining to the subject at hand:

"It is surprising that many Filipinos still don't know much about the morning-after pill. There are several regular contraceptive pills you can use for this purpose: Lady, Microgynon 30, Nordette, Rigevidon 21+7, Trinordiol, Tri-Regol, Nordiol 21, Femenal, Logynon. Those pills either have a combination of Levonorgestrel / Estradiol or Norgestrel / Estradiol. The amounts of hormones also vary among brands thus there are different dosages for these pills. For example:

*Lady, Microgynon, Nordette - 4 tabs taken as soon as possible after coitus (not more than 72 hrs) then 4 more tabs taken 12 hrs later.

*Femenal - 2 tabs within 72 hrs then another 2 tabs 12 hrs later.

The most common reactions are nausea, vomiting, abdominal cramps. The nausea can be very severe but they subside after a day. There are more serious side effects like stroke (usually among smokers) but the incidence is rare.

2 tabs of Bonamine one hour before taking the pills can lessen the nausea and vomiting which are common side-effects. ".OK let's be clear here. The morning after pill contains 1.5 MG of levonorgestrel. The pills above contain 1/10th the required dose needed for the "morning after" effect. In addition, the pills above contain estrogen (levonorgestrel is a progesterone and is the contraceptive part of the pill, the estrogen is put into the pill to reduce things like spotting and breakthrough bleeding a woman can have when using only a progesterone for contraception). So, while non-medical websites recommend things like microgynon, nordette and femenal, these pills do not have enough progesterone in them to be effective as a morning after pill.

As I tell people on the viagra forums on ISG, don't believe non-medical websites, they are anecdotal only, not science.

Think of it this way. If you knew someone who jumped out of an airplane without a parachute and lived. And they that person wrote of his experience online, would you jump out a plane without a parachute. This is anecdotal information, not science.

So. Morning after pill. You need 1. 5 MG of levonorgestrel. And there is no oral contraceptive on the market that provides this in 1-2 pills. The woman would have to take 10 pills to get this dose. And believe me, she would be sicker than stink if she did this. And you would be dead meat with her.

GG

George03
07-31-15, 22:48
Ok, auto correct must be messing with me. I mean to say two girls I "Skyped".


Thanks for the info.

I have been to Phil twice. Manila, Cebu, and Davao the first time. I used FC and had two girls that I skipped, YM, etc before meeting, all turned out well. I met one of them again on the second trip. Both times I combined these with LA Cafe etc. If I can find a good flight, may come back in a couple of months.

I actually saw an older women in my town in the US on FC that had the small but terrible. Not that attractive but I am not always that picky.

Dragon Slayer
08-01-15, 00:41
George03,

The "Small but Terrible" "cadaver" in your City has one thing and only one thing going for her: She IS in your City. I am extremely picky on my women. I have no objection to "dusting off the relics" except that these older women are often nasty, rude and selfish. Who needs it! The Philippines is so fucking near when you realize that you can get there in 24 hours.

A month ago I met a very hot looking, very sexy lack lady online. She was in London, England and 31. Had emigrated from Africa. We chatted on cam and it was the evening in London. She was in her bed wearing only a bra and panties. I could see her nice legs and huge tits hanging out of her bra. I enjoy London. I was planning to fly to see her in September when schools re-open and vacation season ends there.

I call her a few days later to talk. She tells me her friend dropped over for drinks. I hear a British accent as the lady yells out a Hello, to me. I joke with her that I thought her friend might be a man as she is so lovely. The phone went dead. I call back and she answers. She rips into me like she caught me stealing 100 pound notes from her purse. Here I was jokingly paying her a compliment and she tears me apart. I patiently let her rant for several minutes and then tell her I better hang up now. WHAT A FUCKING *UNT!

I get a message from her the next day that says I more or less confuse her. I delete and block her from messaging me again. I call a couple Filipinas I know in Cebu and Davao that evening. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!. A sweet voice and no yelling, ranting or acting like a fucking lunatic. Just a sweet, polite conversation with each Filipina.

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
09-27-15, 21:32
Guys,

You all must now by now how I got the Name "Dragon Slayer". Eastern martial arts tournaments where I fought and defeated Asian men my age. Long ago. I should never have left the sports of Judo and Karate. Got involved with a 21 year old white woman back then, who tried with some success to dominate my life. Flat chested and wearing glasses and no blowjobs (*itch said it was disgusting). My older sisters later told me they had no idea what the hell I ever saw in the girl.

Anyway that was long ago. NO ONE dominates my life today! I hope no one dominates yours either. Sadly, I know that for many of you, this IS the case. Time for a change.

George03 and the Cups, where are you guys? You constitute 2 of the 12 men who read my Forum. I need to know where and how a man can purchase Morning After Pills that work and are safe for the Lady. This last Trip, at the end of a long meeting with my New Banker (fat girl assigned to me quit the bank, great!) I dropped by the Mercury Drug pharmacy a block down and on a side street about 500 meters from the Davao Marco Polo.

It was not very busy and I am more or less, well liked by the girls working here. They all, as normal, gathered around to talk to me. I joked with them and complimented them on being lovely and made my usual requests. I get the 120 MG Arcoxia I need for my lousy left hip (product of martial arts and playing many years of basketball in NJ). I ask for and get five (5) 100 MG generic Viagra tabs for P 700 ($ 15 US). Very reasonable for something that you can rely on as opposed to what we buy on Burgos St. I use 50 MG at a time so this lasts awhile.

I have my Lady in Davao with me and we request the Morning After Pill. Manager goes to the Internet and comes up with something for her to take. The three lady pharmacists get into a discussion in vasayan as to what is the proper dosage and what will work best. They are NOT stupid and I think they DO know what they are talking about. I get what they suggest for her as she is there listening intently to the discussion and asks the Manager some questions.

I am just wondering if they have available in the Philippines the best for the money on this. As to the generic Viagra, IT WORKS!. This pharmacy is convenient for anyone. If you are at the Marco Polo you exit the Hotel and walk to the left past the Metro Bank to the corner street and go left and there it is. On this side street, it is easy for a taxi to bring you here and wait for you.

Want the real Viagra? In Cebu City my Lady went to Rose's Pharmacy by Country Mall. No generic Viagra but she bought me all they had, three (3) 100 MG tablets of Viagra for P454 ($ 9. 80) each. I noticed no difference in effect between this and generic V. All are sidanifol.

Before leaving your country determine that you DO NOT have a cold or fever. Then, GET A FLU SHOT!. I arrived in Manila feeling great and in excellent health. I met a lovely 24 year old with a Perfect Rack! This is a lady with natural, full, round tits that are very big for her tiny body. They were full, soft and beautiful. I held on to those puppies and fucked her several times.

On my Flight from Manila to Cebu, normally a 50 minute commuter flight, I am stuck in Cebu Pacific departure area for eight (8) hours! Bad weather in Cebu and a "traffic Jam" at Manila Airport, coupled with the general incompetence of the Airport Personnel, had passengers on this and other flights stranded. Stuck in an area with three times as many people as it was meant to hold, I developed a severe cough, nasal congestion and fever. I arrive in Cebu at midnight and get to my Hotel. I awaken in the morning weak and miserable. My Son, Colin, and his Mother arrive but they cannot come near me as I am much to sick.

For the rest of the Trip I am not at my best. I take medicine and cough syrup but it is not until several days after arriving home that I fee well. I recommend that you get a flu shot as prevention and see an MD in the Phils at the first sign of coming up with any cold or illness. Not worth trying to "ride it out". I could not hold my 4 year old son ever and my teenage daughter had to keep her distance from me to avoid illness and missing School. All of this due to being trapped with several hundred people in the holding area while the fucking Airport Personnel decide what to do.

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
11-08-15, 17:28
Guys,

After "extensive research" and "numerous trial tests" I have determined that VIAGRA is the best for keeping you erect, going for "Round 2 or 3" and again in the morning. I tried Black Antz and this is NOT even close in performance to Viagra. Neither is Robust. While you can easily purchase Robust at any pharmacy in the Philippines for $ 1. 00 US per tablet, it IS NOT that efficient. And, I found that quite frequently I experienced severe pain in the back of my neck, just as I was reaching orgasm. Not good!

I suggest avoiding both and sticking with the Viagra, either the real thing from Pfizer or the generic purchased at Mercury Drugs in the Phils for 5, 100 MG tablets for 700 pesos ($15). The only thing I ever found that worked as good or better were some round, blue colored Chinese Sex Pills I got from Horny Al. Readers of my Forum note that Horny Al got his Name because 1) he IS "AL" and 2) he is very horny! Constantly saying, "Slayer I got to get laid". He is a "! Man Sex Tour of Southeast Asia". Al told me he cannot remember where he purchased the Chinese Pills. Told me to simply go into any Chinese Herbal Shop, ask the young, teenage girl working the counter for Sex Pills and inquire as to which are the most popular.

For some reason, I have not been able to work up the "balls" to walk in and ask a girl the age of my daughter for Sex Pills.

Dragon Slayer.

Dragon Slayer
11-17-15, 02:18
Guys,

After the Horrific Tragedy that took place in Paris last Friday evening, I expect this will have a dramatic effect on travel overseas. Many planning trips to Asia (Philippines) in December and January will postpone or cancel. I remember flying out in late April of 2003 when SARS was at its height. Though confined primarily to Beijing, Guangdong Province, Hong Kong, Taipei and somewhat in Singapore ALL TRAVEL dropped dramatically.

The Philippines had exactly one (1) case of SARS, an elderly man travelling from Hong Kong. Yet everyone and anyone was "advising" me NOT to take my trip. At the Airport flights were reduced to one daily from LAX to Tokyo. Pandemonium is the word to describe the way the boarding gate was run. Employees accustomed to an essentially stress free regimen were ranting and raving and screaming (literally) at passengers. IT SUCKED! However, on board it was "smooth sailing" and no trouble with hotel rooms or flights within the Philippines. ISIS threats made Today will heighten the Terror. I mean for many, the very thought of travelling out of the USA to Asia is a "Thing of Peril". These individuals will NOT be able to even contemplate travel at this time.

I depart shortly on my short Trip. I will report on how everything is.

Dragon Slayer.

Red Kilt
11-17-15, 04:11
I depart shortly on my short Trip. I will report on how everything is.
I hope your transit through Manila airports on either 20 or 21 is without drama DS but I fear the worst.

Manila has been virtually gridlocked since Saturday, Nov 14 and the city is in a severe state of chaos. I am glad I decided to stay in my condo for the past 4 days and don't intend to move until at least the weekend. Because thousands of flights were cancelled between Nov 16 to 20, airlines are expecting a massive swell of passengers on Nov 21 and the period soon after.

I predict that the airport will be chaotic. If you have difficulty in getting from one terminal to another on Nov 21 then don't say I didn't warn you.

Dragon Slayer
11-24-15, 07:06
Guys,

I arrived at 11:00 PM Thursday night in Manila from Tokyo. I easily got a taxi and went to my hotel. Got an Upgrade to a large room on the 24th floor. Main problem is that much of the Hotel Staff is poorly trained and speak virtually no English (all reply "yes" when asked, "do you understand English" Wasted a lot of time trying to convey my various requests to housekeeping and Restaurant Staff.

I departed the Hotel just after 08:30 AM for Cebu Pacific Terminal 3. Some traffic on road but driver knew some back streets and we arrived without trouble. Flight to Davao was uneventful and plane was a huge Boeing 737 with plenty of open seats. I had all three seats in my row. No trouble getting to Hotel as MP van was there and had my Name. Recognized me and called out to me as I walked in the exit area.

Dragon Slayer.

Wicked Roger
11-24-15, 17:43
Guys,

I arrived at 11:00 PM Thursday night in Manila from Tokyo. I easily got a taxi and went to my hotel. Got an Upgrade to a large room on the 24th floor. Main problem is that much of the Hotel Staff is poorly trained and speak virtually no English (all reply "yes" when asked, "do you understand English" Wasted a lot of time trying to convey my various requests to housekeeping and Restaurant Staff.

Dragon Slayer.DS,

Good to see you that evening at the airport. I was surprised. My flight was delayed due to APEC hence the late arrival. Shame we could not catch up but am now the other side of the world as I said.

What was your impression of the Oxford as I (and others) think it has gone downhill a lot, very threadbare, musty / damp smell. Maybe the upgraded rooms are better but for very quick trips to Manila as mine was I stay at the Red Planet (Tune) or St Giles as OK pricing and rooms, easy walk to Burgos bar and some cheap restos.