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PedroMorales
07-21-19, 16:37
Well shit. If you are going to go that far. LOL. You already swallowed the elephant; no need to choke on the tail.It would make a great movie, fingering them to see if they are real. I am sure real women would not mind being turned inside out. All in a day's work. You want yours sunny side up?
Mr Enternational
07-21-19, 18:29
Why couldn't you just look to see if it was pink and wet inside instead of skin color and dry like some old shriveled up balls?
When I went to Thailand have to admit they are hard to tell so I just asked if they had a cock, 4 out of 5 times they will let you grab their pussies and a few grab your hand and stick it in their panties and if they are they will tell you, they do not want problems. A post op told me she was and even let me see and felt the man made snatch. Was going to fuck her but too many people knew me and were watching. Have to say I wanted to she was hotter than 95% of the girls at the casino pool party.
I was always curious to know just how good the plastic surgeons are to make a Vagina for a Post Op Ladyboy. I have never actually seen the real thing.
YouTube somewhere had a video of such an operation and everything was shown. Quite graphic and fascinating into how it is done. I was squirming in my chair as the surgeon sliced up a perfectly good penis, using the penile skin for the new vaginal wall, and the penile tip to fashion into a clit.
However, the goal should be to ID and eliminate all TS's and TV's BEFORE they get to our room.
I have nearly been duped 3 times I am ashamed to say, though I always wised up before we went up to a room. All were the smaller guys who spared the heavy makeup and the over-exaugurated feminism. For two, what finally wised me up was they were speaking very little. When I got more than a few words out of them I realized their voices were not matching their feminine-looking body. The third dude was a master. Excellent English and both looked an sounded like a real girl. I spent many minutes talking to her and was shocked when she casually brought it up in a very intelligent conversation that she was once a he. That is the closet I have come to BF one. I was not mad, I was blown away and gave him a hefty tip for the time and fine, illuminating conversation we had. Not sure if any of these were full post op or what, but while the bigger dudes are easily spotted, the smaller guys can sucker you in. Listen to them, look at them, spend some time if you aren't sure, and you will rarely be caught upstairs. Oh, and slip the night guard at the hotel some money and tell him to keep you safe.
Also, TS's do not get naturally wet. Lube will be needed. And since the depth of their vaginal canal is pretty much limited to their original penile length, they will likely be shallow. But as I said, you don't want to be at this stage before finding out they are a TS. But if you get them to their room, they have boobs and a functional vagina, will you stop at that point? By being careful and listening well, I have thus far avoiding having to ask myself that question!
MongerForSex
07-22-19, 00:52
I was always curious to know just how good the plastic surgeons are to make a Vagina for a Post Op Ladyboy. I have never actually seen the real thing.
I decided the easy way out was to download some Post-Op porn and have a look. Got one for a Thai LB Tukata, and another for Farang Samantha Fox. Yes we got to see the pussy in close up. Yes I have to admit the surgeon was very talented, however, having seen hundreds of real pussy in my time, I could certainly see easily that something was quite abnormal with the Post-Ops even if they have inner lips and some sort of clit, the shape is still strange.
.I have seen some fake vaginas in person. There is still a big difference between a fake vagina and real vagina.
I have seen some fake vaginas in person. There is still a big difference between a fake vagina and real vagina.A couple of weeks ago I mentioned in the Bangkok Reports thread that Enter Go-Go Bar on the third level of Nana Plaza was featuring naked post-op ladyboys in their shower stall if anyone is curious about seeing what at least the outside of a man-made vagina looks like in person.
I think combined with so many other physical tell-tale signs exhibited by the ladyboys involved, it was easy to notice that something wasn't quite right about the labia, the shape of the mons pubis and surrounding skin. I think I still would have noticed something not quite right if just the vagina and surrounding area had been visible and the rest of the body was hidden behind a curtain or something.
I have never gotten that far with a LB privately, but I am almost 100% certain that if I already had some tiny bit of doubt and then saw one of those vaginas naked from an arms length distance I would know without investigating further and deeper that he was not a natural born female. And even if I called it wrong and a DNA test proved otherwise, I would still have begged off from engaging in sex with the little lady because her vagina creeped me out too much.
I have never gotten that far with a LB privately.At least, as far as you know. Those LB's are tricky creatures.
At least, as far as you know. Those LB's are tricky creatures.Quite true. The fact is I have never seen a DNA test result for any of my sexual partners. As far as I can prove scientifically, it is entirely possible all 2500+ of my sexual partners have been very convincing ladyboys.
I want my money back.
PedroMorales
07-22-19, 17:50
Quite true. The fact is I have never seen a DNA test result for any of my sexual partners. As far as I can prove scientifically, it is entirely possible all 2500+ of my sexual partners have been very convincing ladyboys. I want my money back.Good thinking. Let's put in a class action. Bye bye Thailand if we win.
Quite true. The fact is I have never seen a DNA test result for any of my sexual partners. As far as I can prove scientifically, it is entirely possible all 2500+ of my sexual partners have been very convincing ladyboys.
I want my money back.Or at least a discount.
Mr Enternational
07-22-19, 18:28
Or at least a discount.If they were that convincing then he should be paying extra as many guys like to do.
MongerForSex
07-24-19, 13:28
I have never gotten that far with a LB privately, but I am almost 100% certain that if I already had some tiny bit of doubt and then saw one of those vaginas naked from an arms length distance I would know without investigating further and deeper that he was not a natural born female. And even if I called it wrong and a DNA test proved otherwise, I would still have begged off from engaging in sex with the little lady because her vagina creeped me out too much.That's why you have no experience with human anatomy. As a health professional, no transexual looking woman or transexual will fool me. Ignorance is the best thing in this world.
That's why you have no experience with human anatomy. As a health professional, no transexual looking woman or transexual will fool me. Ignorance is the best thing in this world.Pardon me, but I have had tons of experience with the human anatomy. What do you think I was doing with those 2500+ different sex partners over the past 47 years?
That should provide a decent straight line set up for a few posters here. LOL.
MongerForSex
07-24-19, 15:22
Pardon me, but I have had tons of experience with the human anatomy. What do you think I was doing with those 2500+ different sex partners over the past 47 years?
That should provide a decent straight line set up for a few posters here. LOL.With all that experience, you may have been duped in your life. I only had over 2500 partners in 10 years. I fuck everyday. I am still not tired.
With all that experience, you may have been duped in your life. I only had over 2500 partners in 10 years. I fuck everyday. I am still not tired.Well, I was married twice and faithful to my wives for a total of 17 of those years, plus a couple of years prior to each of those marriages. And I was faithful to at least 2 other regular girlfriends along the way for about 9 more of those years. So that did put a crimp in my number of different partners for approximately 30 or more of those 47 years.
Can't say I fucked every day of those faithful marriages, of course. But I do know the number of times I have fucked in my life does not coincidentally match the 2500+ number of different sexual partners I have had. Amazingly enough, I somehow managed to inspire a few of those real or fake females to have sex with me a second, third or more times. If they hadn't been so adamant about my complying with their wishes, I suppose I might have been able to rack up the bulk of those different partners in less time than the remaining 17 years.
As a health professional, no transexual looking woman or transexual will fool me.Famous last words. In my opinion, if you think it's impossible, then you have been fooled. A buddy of mine is an ER doctor in the US. He's been an ER doc for over 20 years. He went to Bangkok for the first time a few years ago and took a known post op ladyboy to his hotel. The next day he claimed he was sure it was a girl.
The film "Ronin" starring Robert DeNiro contains the line, "if there is doubt, there is no doubt. " If you suspect for a moment that the would-be object of your affections may not be entirely female, and it makes a difference, then move along. Otherwise, enjoy the cock, it's what you wanted all along.
Member #4698
07-24-19, 17:32
"if there is doubt, there is no doubt. " If you suspect for a moment that the would-be object of your affections may not be entirely female, and it makes a difference, then move along. Otherwise, enjoy the cock, it's what you wanted all along.Copy that! This is what I mean when I say I do not mind if I make a false positive, type 1 error in judgement which causes me to pass on a natural born girl. I must have spotted at least 110% of all the ladyboys I have come in contact with. 555.
Ok, so is this pretty girl a Girl or a Katoey?
MongerForSex
07-24-19, 17:59
Famous last words. In my opinion, if you think it's impossible, then you have been fooled. A buddy of mine is an ER doctor in the US. He's been an ER doc for over 20 years. He went to Bangkok for the first time a few years ago and took a known post op ladyboy to his hotel. The next day he claimed he was sure it was a girl.He is not urologist, genecologist or dermatovenereologist. I have seen as many dicks as prostitutes. I can't be fooled by a fake vagina. I know it's disgusting, but it's thanks to my job, I make a good living and I understand STDs very well and I know STDs are not as dangerous as people think, it's also thanks to my job I can't be fooled by transexuals or real women looking like transexuals. That's why I am happy to have studied dermatolovenerology and infectology. My father wanted me to be cardiologist like him but I did not want because of my bad experience with tuberculous ulcers on my thorax when I was young I still have those scars. I decided to study dermatology and infectology to fight my fear of tuberculosis.
Ok, so is this pretty girl a Girl or a Katoey?That is clearly a male.
Copy that! This is what I mean when I say I do not mind if I make a false positive, type 1 error in judgement which causes me to pass on a natural born girl. I must have spotted at least 110% of all the ladyboys I have come in contact with. 555.
Ok, so is this pretty girl a Girl or a Katoey?Hey, that's my #1347! LOL. Just kidding. I say that is a natural born male. At least, my doubts about "her" being a natural born female based on that still photo are enough to prevent me from feeling any further curiosity about it or feeling aroused by "her" even if a DNA test proved she is a natural born female.
She looks more inherently masculine than either of the two real girls I met in the past few years that intrigued me enough to dismiss the small doubt I had and go with the flow until I was 100% certain in my room. All the obvious surgical implants and adjustments would be enough to put me off either way.
MongerForSex
07-24-19, 19:09
Copy that! This is what I mean when I say I do not mind if I make a false positive, type 1 error in judgement which causes me to pass on a natural born girl. I must have spotted at least 110% of all the ladyboys I have come in contact with. 555.
Ok, so is this pretty girl a Girl or a Katoey?We are waiting for the answer.
"if there is doubt, there is no doubt. "Reminds me of my ex wife and her bullshit "women's intuition". She was certain I was cheating on her, but I never was. Now I wish I had been.
Mr Enternational
07-24-19, 19:29
Ok, so is this pretty girl a Girl or a Katoey?That mf's 5 o'clock shadow is thicker than my 5 day shadow! And his adam's apple is about to jump out of his damn throat. Women are NOT shaped like that. Women's shoulders slope down. Men's shoulders go out then round down or drop down, like the corner of a square. Stop seeing a dress, long hair, and makeup and assuming these are the things that make up a woman.
And half the giveaway is the fake titties. There is nary a ladybody posted that someone is confused about that does not have bolt-ons. Maybe it is easier for me because I go for natural bodies and do not look twice at fake shit. Giraffe neck ass muthafucka! (Women have shorter necks in proportion than men as well.) I am with Intransit; some guys just want the dick.
Seriously, the shit is so obvious to me. But evidently it is not obvious to everyone. I am on the beach in the Dominican Republic with my girlfriend who is a medical doctor here. I showed her the picture and she said it was a female model. I started laughing. I explained to her why it was a male. She said at the university that she went to there are a lot of transexuals studying to be plastic surgeons. That is where the money is. Everyday American hoes are coming here to buy asses and shit.
Member #4698
07-24-19, 20:21
Nope. I had my doubts too based on a certain facial look, but we are all wrong. She is a girl, or at least I think she is based on what I know. But here is the thing, her oversized implants would have turned me off and on that basis alone I would have passed on her if I had seen her in a nightclub. But I do believe she is a real girl because she is a regularly featured bunny on Playboy Thailand Instagram with a personal following of 98.9 K. Her stage name is Mafia or bunny. Mafia.
Anyway, we are not alone in our false positive reading. My Atomic Blond, who is a thin, all natural Thai girl, except for her striking blond hair (555) saw a random pic of bunny. Mafia on my Instagram Playboy link one time and asked why I had a picture of a LB on my phone. I said are you sure she is a LB and Atomic said without a doubt. Ha Ha, so maybe Mafia really is LB, but prominently featured on Playboy Thailand makes me doubt even Atomic's opinion.
In any case, all the Thailand Playmates and Bunnies have two things in common: they all have very light skin and they all have very large silly cone breasts and other surgical modifications. The one bunny I like despite her surgical breast enhancements is called bunny. Evaava. I would like to meet bunny. Evaava. I would be shocked if Eva was a you know what.
MongerForSex
07-24-19, 20:29
Nope. We are all wrong. She is a girl, or at least I think she is based on what I know. But here is the thing, her oversized implants would have turned me off and on that basis alone I would have passed on her if I had seen her in a nightclub. But I do believe she is a real girl because she is a regularly featured bunny on Playboy Thailand Instagram with a personal following of 98.9 K. Her stage name is Mafia or bunny. Mafia.
Anyway, we are not alone in our false positive reading. My Atomic Blond, who is a thin, all natural Thai girl, except for her striking blond hair (555) saw a random pic of bunny. Mafia on my Instagram Playboy link one time and asked why I had a picture of a LB on my phone. I said are you sure she is a LB and Atomic said without a doubt. Ha Ha, so maybe Mafia really is LB, but prominently featured on Playboy Thailand makes me doubt even Atomic's opinion.
In any case, all the Thailand Playmates and Bunnies have two things in common: they all have very white skin and they all have very large silly cone breasts and other surgical modifications. The one bunny I like despite her surgical breast enhancements is called bunny. Evaava. I would like to meet bunny. Evaava. I would be shocked if Eva was a you know what.All the specialists in shemales were wrong. LOL Mr Enternational so called specialist is wrong and tooms is wrong too. Can we trust them not to be duped by transexuals or transexual looking women? I have to find another expert for my trip in Thailand. LOL.
Member #4698
07-24-19, 20:42
All the specialists in shemales were wrong. LOL Mr Enternational so called specialist is wrong and tooms is wrong too. Can we trust them not to be duped by transexuals or transexual looking women? I have to find another expert for my trip in Thailand. LOL.Yes, but there is nothing wrong with making a type 1 error. It is the the type 2 error or false negative that you must be on the lookout for. The non-rejection of a false null hypothesis ie thinking a LB is a girl and moving forward on that erroneous assumption. On that critical level, I don't believe that Mr E or EihTooms have ever been mistaken. I know I haven't and I would admit it if I had.
MongerForSex
07-24-19, 20:47
Yes, but there is nothing wrong with making a type 1 error. It is the the type 2 error or false negative that you must be on the lookout for. The non-rejection of a false null hypothesis ie thinking a LB is a girl and on that critical level, I doubt that Mr E or EihTooms have ever been mistaken. I know I haven't and I would admit it if I had.I don't really care if people make mistakes. There is something wrong with making a type 1 error when a person pretends to know how to identify.
All the specialists in shemales were wrong. LOL Mr Enternational so called specialist is wrong and tooms is wrong too. Can we trust them not to be duped by transexuals or transexual looking women? I have to find another expert for my trip in Thailand. LOL.I never claimed to be a specialist or an expert, especially not based on a still photo. I have always said still photos are the worst ways to tell the difference and the easiest ways to be fooled. A video clip tells much more. An in person observation usually clinches it.
I was just answering to play the game since it was of no real concern to me or threat to my perceived sexual preference to make a wrong guess. A risk I notice a couple of other genuine self-claimed experts declined to take. LOL.
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Giraffe neck ass muthafucka! (Women have shorter necks in proportion than men as well.)
... Really? I always thought a longer appearing neck was a more feminine feature.
Yes, but there is nothing wrong with making a type 1 error. It is the the type 2 error or false negative that you must be on the lookout for. The non-rejection of a false null hypothesis ie thinking a LB is a girl and moving forward on that erroneous assumption. On that critical level, I don't believe that Mr E or EihTooms have ever been mistaken. I know I haven't and I would admit it if I had.That is true, unless I really was fooled by a very convincing LB or LBs sometime along the way. It doesn't disturb me to allow that possibility. But I really don't believe it ever happened.
However, Natty, I can't say that anyone ought to conclude the case is settled once and for all regarding that lady or ladyboy in the still photo. I mean, you "think" she is a natural born female? Playboy Thailand? LOL. I wouldn't take those shaky assurances as enough reason to sign an ironclad contract for real money to spend a night having sex with that person in the photo. A video clip might help. But based on just a still photo and those assurances, no.
It sounds like some of you guys are missing out on some extremely hot pussy thinking those chicks are too hot to be real girls.
Member #4698
07-24-19, 21:32
That is true, unless I really was fooled by a very convincing LB or LBs sometime along the way. It doesn't disturb me to allow that possibility.
However, Natty, I can't say that anyone ought to conclude the case is settled once and for all regarding that lady or ladyboy in the still photo. I mean, you "think" she is a natural born female? Thailand Playboy? LOL. I wouldn't take those shaky assurances as enough reason to sign an ironclad contract even for real money to spend a night having sex with that person in the photo. A video clip might help. But based on just a still photo and those assurances, no.It doesn't matter to me. I wouldn't take her regardless, but she has video clips on her instagram site and in them she appears to be a natural girl. I have seen them. But you are right; one still photo is the least accurate evidence to rely on. It is nothing like seeing someone in real life. This was just a little game for everyone's amusement. I wasn't trying to prove anything.
Member #4698
07-24-19, 21:34
It sounds like some of you guys are missing out on some extremely hot pussy thinking those chicks are too hot to be real girls.I am trying to figure out where these girls go when they want to let loose and party. Like I said, I have a thing for Bunny EvaAva.
Mr Enternational
07-24-19, 21:37
All the specialists in shemales were wrong. LOL Mr Enternational so called specialist is wrong and tooms is wrong too. Can we trust them not to be duped by transexuals or transexual looking women? I have to find another expert for my trip in Thailand. LOL.You can trust us for not mistaking a dude for a chick. Like the man said, if you have to pause and wonder if the chick is a dude, then why even attempt to go there.
And as I have said before, trans used to fashion themselves to attempt to look like women. Now women are fashioning themselves to look like trans.
It doesn't matter to me. I wouldn't take her regardless, but she has video clips on her instagram site and in them she appears to be a natural girl. I have seen them. But you are right; one still photo is the least accurate evidence to rely on. It is nothing like seeing someone in real life. This was just a little game for everyone's amusement. I wasn't trying to prove anything.It was an amusing game. But you should have waited just a tad longer before the big reveal so MongerForSex could have weighed in with his guess. I mean, his never fail expert conclusion as a specialist in these matters. Actually, I guess he did have that opportunity to weigh in but took a pass on it. I suppose he just didn't want to spoil the game for the rest of us by giving the correct answer before you were ready to end the game.
Blanquiceleste
07-25-19, 01:01
It was an amusing game. But you should have waited just a tad longer before the big reveal so MongerForSex could have weighed in with his guess. I mean, his never fail expert conclusion as a specialist in these matters. Actually, I guess he did have that opportunity to weigh in but took a pass on it. I suppose he just didn't want to spoil the game for the rest of us by giving the correct answer before you were ready to end the game.Let me say what everyone has been thinking about.
MFS is someone who claims to have slept with over 2500 females and never once been duped, but, strangely, refuses to accept that anyone else who has been staying in or visiting Thailand for a long time is capable of the same. At best, someone seeking cheap thrills out of the arguments this generates. At worst, a harmless fool and nothing more.
You can trust us for not mistaking a dude for a chick. Like the man said, if you have to pause and wonder if the chick is a dude, then why even attempt to go there.
And as I have said before, trans used to fashion themselves to attempt to look like women. Now women are fashioning themselves to look like trans.I think it is noteworthy that nobody came forward with a definite vote in favor of the girl in that photo being a female. Nobody.
To me, that illustrates once again how weak a still photo can be for determining the most important factors about a potential sex partner, a point I have probably made with regard to posted photos more than any other member here. My contention has always been that photos can mislead as often as they prove or confirm.
Those factors almost always include whether or not I and others would really be all that inspired to fuck the person in that photo once we have met them in person even when there is no question about her being a natural born female. Now I can reasonably state a still photo might not even be enough to accurately convince anyone viewing it which gender they are looking at.
That still photo clearly showed a bad boob job. And as I said in agreement with Natty, the bad implants were reason enough for me to take a pass anyway. But the light and shadows in the photo also suggested a bad chin implant and traces of an Adam's Apple, more than a mere trace of the latter in your eyes.
I think all of it put together was plenty to prevent any and every member who looked at that one still photo from publicly stating without a doubt that it was a natural born female. Most conspicuously missing for such a vote were the self-described , never fail specialists and experts in these matters.
And, in my oft stated opinion about posted photos, it still says nothing about how we would feel if we met the girl in a photo face to face and in person. Girls who look hot in a photo are sometimes the least fuckable in person and girls whose photos elicit derisive laughter might turn out to be some of the sexiest, most fuckable girls you've met in a month once you are in their presence. It is fun to see photos. But they don't necessarily prove much.
Any man with a minimal amount of experience choosing and meeting girls from the internet dating sites can attest to that fact. And vice versa. Lol
MongerForSex
07-25-19, 04:18
It was an amusing game. But you should have waited just a tad longer before the big reveal so MongerForSex could have weighed in with his guess. I mean, his never fail expert conclusion as a specialist in these matters. Actually, I guess he did have that opportunity to weigh in but took a pass on it. I suppose he just didn't want to spoil the game for the rest of us by giving the correct answer before you were ready to end the game.I never pretended to be an expert from stupid pictures. I don't trust pictures as I said in all my posts. I don't need to play that stupid game. Don't forget I am not superman's son.. The stupid game is for you.
Mr Enternational
07-29-19, 15:58
The thing is we will be picking those with the best hairdresser and makeup, and better clothes.
That is the same with normal women and stars. If people saw them when they woke up in the morning versus all glammed up, it would be a different story on who is the bee's knees. I used to fuck with a chick in Brazil that made porn movies. She would have to go in for 8 hours and 4 of those hours would consist of getting her hair and makeup done.
As I explained to a (very naive) colleague while working in London when he pointed to phone booth and the gorgeous pictures. "do you remember as a child when you opened the box of your Christmas gift and compared the toy inside with the tv ad?
That is the same with normal women and stars. If people saw them when they woke up in the morning versus all glammed up, it would be a different story on who is the bee's knees. I used to fuck with a chick in Brazil that made porn movies. She would have to go in for 8 hours and 4 of those hours would consist of getting her hair and makeup done.
Mr Enternational
07-29-19, 20:29
As I explained to a (very naive) colleague while working in London when he pointed to phone booth and the gorgeous pictures. "do you remember as a child when you opened the box of your Christmas gift and compared the toy inside with the tv ad?LOL. I remember having to have Zips shoes when I was a kid. On the TV ad it made you think you would be able to run faster and jump higher. That was a bust. If they did something as simple as take the music and fast talking out of those ads then nobody would probably buy any of that shit.
TurdyCurdyOne
07-30-19, 01:23
I think it is noteworthy that nobody came forward with a definite vote in favor of the girl in that photo being a female. Nobody.
To me, that illustrates once again how weak a still photo can be for determining the most important factors about a potential sex partner, a point I have probably made with regard to posted photos more than any other member here. My contention has always been that photoscan mislead as often as they prove or confirm.
Those factors almost always include whether or not I and others would really be all that inspired to fuck the person in that photo once we have met them in person even when there is no question about her being a natural born female. Now I can reasonably state a still photo might not even be enough to accurately convince anyone viewing it which gender they are looking at.
That still photo clearly showed a bad boob job. And as I said in agreement with Natty, the bad implants were reason enough for me to take a pass anyway. But the light and shadows in the photo also suggested a bad chin implant and traces of an Adam's Apple, more than a mere trace of the latter in your eyes.Eih is right of course. It's very difficult to tell for certain which women will be good in bed.
Sometimes their demeanor talking to you can give hints. What is their experience? Tatoos, first sex at younger age, no strict religion, not from abused background and healthy relationship with Father, etc are indicators, but you never know for sure.
I thought I could separate the transvestites (ladyboys) from real women till I came to Philippines. Very difficult here, they are all small boned, no dead give sways and even have high voices.
And they LIE sometimes. Some of the ladyboys in San Francisco are also difficult to tell and some are actually female having had the complete surgery, but still cannot get pregnant, so technically not really female.
One poster studied them and concluded that ladyboys are mentally ill. Not sure about that.
Often it's the sleeper girl, the quiet one who does not dress sexy who is best in bed. The more hey show, often the less they GO. Hot, very attractive women are frequently spoiled and selfish both in bed and not. Older are frequently better than younger.
Re photos: They are frequently misleading or worthless. Get them on cam, to see the truth.
LOL. I remember having to have Zips shoes when I was a kid. On the TV ad it made you think you would be able to run faster and jump higher. That was a bust. If they did something as simple as take the music and fast talking out of those ads then nobody would probably buy any of that shit.As men we are raised to handle disappointment from an early age.
Mr Enternational
07-30-19, 13:22
I thought I could separate the transvestites (ladyboys) from real women till I came to Philippines. Very difficult here, they are all small boned, no dead give sways and even have high voices.Definitely dead givaways. They have big ass feet and they don't have the mannerisms of a real woman. They have mannerisms of how they think a woman acts. For instance they stick their arm out and hang their purses where their elbow bends. You don't see women doing that.
One poster studied them and concluded that ladyboys are mentally ill. Not sure about that. I would not say mentally ill. But here is my take on life. We all start off as female in the womb. Some people's body and brain make a complete change over to being a male and we are what I would call natural males. Some people's body change to male, but their brain is still stuck as a female. These are what I would call a natural ladyboy. Some people's brain change over to being a male, but their body does not. This is what I would call a butch. Then of course there are people along along the entire spectrum that could go however way.
Being organisms we all have defects for lack of a better word. I have asthma, someone else has bad eyesight, another person's right leg is shorter than the left, and some people are ladyboys. That is why I say normal does not exist. Everyone has something about them.
Make no mistake though. There are also ladyboys that pick it up as a learned behavior. I was sitting at Kokomos on Walking Street in Angeles one time and at the bar across the street there was a young kid maybe 7 or so and it seemed the girls surrounding him were trying to teach him to be feminine. That is why little boys need to be around men and not women.
I am not sure if it was mentioned before on this thread, but a local girl explained me that the Adam's apple is give away. I put it to test and can report with 90% certainty that this method works. The other 10% I am not sure LOL.
I am not sure if it was mentioned before on this thread, but a local girl explained me that the Adam's apple is give away. I put it to test and can report with 90% certainty that this method works. The other 10% I am not sure LOL.Nope, not a certainty at all. It can be shaved down to almost completely get rid of it. I have read on this forum before that it can be done as day surgery.
Nope, not a certainty at all. It can be shaved down to almost completely get rid of it. I have read on this forum before that it can be done as day surgery.Not only that, but hard to see Adam's A on some guys and see one on some girls. People vary. Its a bit rude to go feeling the size of the lump on the throat too. I can feel my Adam's Apple well enough, but I can't see it if look in the mirror and my neck is relatively slim (not thick fat layers).
I still maintain the only way to be very sure is detailed well lit pussy exam. The fake ones never look precisely right, just an approximation. Have seen several examples in LB porn and non of them look quite right, even have a constructed Clit and inner lips.
Guys that think LB ID is so easy will come unstuck one day for sure. Yeh we all know 95+% of them are fairly obvious, yet a few on hormones since a very young age can be very difficult to pick, and LBs can carry a fake ID card too. I don't believe I met any LBs that can walk in a normal female gait / manner, but I don't kid myself this is foolproof either. If I did meet one, I might not know it.
Picking ladyboys reliably from photos is far too hard, if they are very good imitations, hence we get lots of guys claiming the pic was a LB, when there is little way to tell for sure. All we can say is some girls look suspicious.
Real girls accused of being ladyboys is very common. Some of us get overly wary of anything unusual looking.
Being a guy that mostly avoids surgery girls, helps a lot, since most LBs have surgeries. Extra tall girls don't bother me though. I can tell when they are real girls. I always make finger in pussy test to make sure she has a Uterus too. Ha Ha!
Best to employ several ways to pick LBs in conjunction. Maybe no one thing is sure enough until get deep into the pussy.
If one eventually still cannot pick a LB from a girl, one could argue that it doesn't matter then. I have heard reports of guys that were deeply badly psychologically affected by finding out they had fucked a LB. One assumes it occurred in dim lighting or he wanted anal, or got sucked off before the knickers came off. However can't be too big a deal if a guy never was aware he did a LB.
The "Crying Game" movie (I think it was) concerned a guy doing a LB, and not knowing supposedly, despite the "girl" having strange looks. The movie cheated though by having a dark skinned girl play the LB part, to make it more difficult to see anything was wrong.
So bullshit movie really.
If one eventually still cannot pick a LB from a girl, one could argue that it doesn't matter then. I have heard reports of guys that were deeply badly psychologically affected by finding out they had fucked a LB. One assumes it occurred in dim lighting or he wanted anal, or got sucked off before the knickers came off. However can't be too big a deal if a guy never was aware he did a LB.
The "Crying Game" movie (I think it was) concerned a guy doing a LB, and not knowing supposedly, despite the "girl" having strange looks. The movie cheated though by having a dark skinned girl play the LB part, to make it more difficult to see anything was wrong. So bullshit movie really.I agree that if someone bangs a LB without knowing then it doesn't really matter, or they did know but had buyers remorse afterwards.
I have a girlfriend in BKK who is quite tall, in her late 30's. She's from out in the country so she also has darker skin. She also likes the beach. She has trouble getting a local BF because of her height and skin colour. She has also been mistaken for an LB but she isn't. Not a working girl eithr, just a regular girl.
I thought the crying game was a great movie. The "girl" didn't really have strange looks and when the movie was released a lot of people wouldn't have come across LB's very often, so for the general public they wouldn't have known. It didn't really cheat having a dark skinned girl because her first boyfriend in the movie was african american, so it worked for the movie. I won't give more away about the plot for those who haven't seen it.
Member #4698
08-12-19, 13:59
I thought the crying game was a great movie. The "girl" didn't really have strange looks and when the movie was released a lot of people wouldn't have come across LB's very often, so for the general public they wouldn't have known. It didn't really cheat having a dark skinned girl because her first boyfriend in the movie was african american, so it worked for the movie. I won't give more away about the plot for those who haven't seen it.Yeah, I thought "the Crying Game" was a fairly entertaining suspense movie. Spoiler alert: Don't want to give the ending away so stop reading this post if you haven't seen the movie, but the final scene where the LB visits the hapless hero in prison and over his protests that she is not his girlfriend and that she should forget about him, the LB smiles and says something to the effect that, but your doing time for me my love, of course I am your girlfriend, and the final look on Stephen Rea's face is priceless. 555.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE9-jjToiJU
Spoiler alert: Don't want to give the ending away so stop reading this post if you haven't seen the movie.Yeah, I didn't post about the way he found about that she was an LB because it's a critical scene in the movie and I didn't want to spoil it for those who haven't seen it.
John Clayton
08-13-19, 15:38
Yeah, I didn't post about the way he found about that she was an LB because it's a critical scene in the movie and I didn't want to spoil it for those who haven't seen it.It's okay to reveal the ending of a movie more than 25 years old. BTW, Ilsa gets on the plane and Rick shoots Strassner.
I thought the crying game was a great movie. The "girl" didn't really have strange looks and when the movie was released a lot of people wouldn't have come across LB's very often, so for the general public they wouldn't have known. Oh no, her looks were normal? Or looks like a dude somewhat? I leave a pic to judge.
Not really feminine enough looking for my taste. I guess she was made up to look a bit strange. For me it is a little disturbing when a girl has an extra large clit. I prefer mid sized clit. No so large it starts to resemble a dick, and not so small that it is easy to lose it in DATY, and of course not missing altogether.
Mr Enternational
08-14-19, 04:06
Oh no, her looks were normal? Or looks like a dude somewhat? I leave a pic to judge.Remember it only looks like a full grown dude to me and you because we have special powers. To everyone else it looks like a female.
If you see this "girl" in Jakarta, you may want to avoid.
If you see this "girl" in Jakarta, you may want to avoid.Hip shape slightly strange, but I guess not many would pick this as obvious LB, from a still pic. Too many clothes on can be hiding lots of surgeries.
Strange point on chin but nose job looks superior.
5 Star bar in Cowboy has some "girls" (Post-Ops) slightly like this, although a slightly lower standard. The real girls dance naked and are much plainer. When I see the pussy vividly, then I know its a girl (without having super powers).
It's okay to reveal the ending of a movie more than 25 years old. BTW, Ilsa gets on the plane and Rick shoots Strassner.Dang, I was going to watch Casablanca tonight! OK, it's not the end but during the movie when the guy hooks up with the LB and starts making out. Gets her gear off and starts to go down on her when, there it is, a flacid cock! He runs straight to the sink and pukes.
Oh no, her looks were normal? Or looks like a dude somewhat? I leave a pic to judge.Ha ha, the girl in the crying game was a bit better looking than Chris Lillie in drag from one of his shows. That's who's in the pic.
In L.B. Pharmacy yesterday, a girl with high surgeries and high makeup had just exited. It was amusing to me that even the Thai shop assistants were debating whether was a real girl. Thais have so much experience, they should be able to pick LBs almost infallibly, yet sometimes even they are unsure. So we suspect a girl trying hard to look like a LB. Her walking style as she left the shop ought to give it away if she was a LB. She was probably about to go to the Thermae. May have been buying condoms first. Ha ha.
I find conservatively dressed tall girls are less likely to be lady boys and especially when the walk looks very natural. Ladyboys just can't help exaggerating it seems. Ladyboys like to look like hookers, where shy girls don't like to look like a hooker too much.
Jeans shorts on my tall girl here (does not need high heals) shows gap but shorts not hugging her tight little ass to really show how skinny but sexy she is. I call that a bit conservative. Not really a ladyboy look.
Back in the 90's there was gangs of LBs drugging punters by smearing knock out drops on their nipples many were drugged and robbed before they were rounded up and put in jail. Some of the punters never work up at all.
It was reported in the thai press at the time.
Back in the 90's there was gangs of LBs drugging punters by smearing knock out drops on their nipples many were drugged and robbed before they were rounded up and put in jail. Some of the punters never work up at all.
It was reported in the thai press at the time.Was that really happening in the 90's? I only ever read one or two reports of something like that and was maybe closer to 2010, certainly after I was an ISG member. I would love to see a report to see if it was really believable or possibly fake news. Being drugged and robbed was all to common, however I believe the Nipple drugging plot appeared in a movie called the "Butterfly Man". Seems a bit far fetched in real life. Drugged drinks seems far more likely.
I have maybe read something about a woman poisoning her cheating husband via nipple poison but again seemed to be possible fiction. However a strong deadly poison may work better than a sleeping drug.
Years ago I thought there was a Thai riddle told to me in Thai language by the wife of a buddy, concerning a woman who poisoned her nipple, and the question was who died, was it the baby or the lover or the husband. Folklore.
Many years ago heard a story about a Psycho guy that murdered girls in his Grace Hotel room, and kept bodies under the bed if that is possible (or in closet) for days. Possibly did not have his room cleaned. Was it true or just a story? Hard to know.
Was that really happening in the 90's? I only ever read one or two reports of something like that and was maybe closer to 2010, certainly after I was an ISG member. I would love to see a report to see if it was really believable or possibly fake news. Being drugged and robbed was all to common, however I believe the Nipple drugging plot appeared in a movie called the "Butterfly Man". Seems a bit far fetched in real life. Drugged drinks seems far more likely.
I have maybe read something about a woman poisoning her cheating husband via nipple poison but again seemed to be possible fiction. However a strong deadly poison may work better than a sleeping drug.
Years ago I thought there was a Thai riddle told to me in Thai language by the wife of a buddy, concerning a woman who poisoned her nipple, and the question was who died, was it the baby or the lover or the husband. Folklore.
Many years ago heard a story about a Psycho guy that murdered girls in his Grace Hotel room, and kept bodies under the bed if that is possible (or in closet) for days. Possibly did not have his room cleaned. Was it true or just a story? Hard to know.I always insist the girl showers WITH ME, and pay careful attention to her nipples and pussy under the water.
Vagabundo1
11-14-19, 02:41
Man if you can't tell by then, you picked a dog anyway.
That's like saying the pussy is a urethra and it was too tight a fit.
I always insist the girl showers WITH ME, and pay careful attention to her nipples and pussy under the water.
I always insist the girl showers WITH ME, and pay careful attention to her nipples and pussy under the water.It was reported in the Bangkok post at the time due to the dead and drugged punters. The film prolly got the idea from the press of the time. If you search online you can maybe find some details but its before the internet days. Soc. Culture. Thai was the first thai forum before all else had arrived online in the 80's period and it was on there.
There was so much drugging s goin on that pharmacies in Pattaya were banned from selling any form of knock out drops to stop the punters being drugged.
Back to jail you go! Pattaya ladyboys robbing tourists again after just one week's release.
By rooster59,1 hour ago in Pattaya News.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1134315-back-to-jail-you-go-pattaya-ladyboys-robbing-tourists-again-after-just-one-weeks-release/
Writer in that Thaivisa News article, is strange to refer to police arresting 2 men (Ladies of the 2nd type). Men is not really a sensible term to use for ladyboys. It just reads too incongruous. Thais would not use the equivalent "Phuu Chai" meaning males, if writing about the same incident. Thais would say two Gatoeys were arrested.
Many of the Japanese guys taking LBs in Bangkok seem to smart enough to use a ST Hotel, e. G. Asoke Place on Soi Asoke. Seem to be more LBs taken there than regular girls. Hopefully they don't take much valuables with them like gold etc.
I don't lock my valuables in a safe as I rarely take an unknown girl to my room, certainly not a LB, and that German guy taking 2 unknown LBs, was pushing his luck maybe. I don't have much valuables anyway. Have one new phone worth a few thousand baht and passport. Notebook computer too old and broken to be worth anything.
To put it into perspective. LBs are not generally dangerous, just a bad few. I have chatted to one or two really funny and charming LBs at cart bars, amongst the real girls, and the odd LB at bar can be okay I don't frequent LB only bars, naturally. So I don't have a strong bias against LBs, just not interest in them sexually, same as for men.
Okay If walking on Sukhumvit very late at night I tend to keep my distance from the ladyboys, making it clear I am not interested to be grabbed. Same as I would keep my distance from guys. Once many years ago as a somewhat newbie, a skinny thing grabbed me on sukhumvit in a tight embrace and wanted me to take her. She was appealing and I was tempted, but I was not completely sure she was a real girl, so passed. The exaggerated behaviour could have spelled LB perhaps, or a very bold girl. After years more experience, I would probably know now if was a real girl or not. I say probably. It is too arrogant to believe we are infallible.
A relative of Mrs is a LB and used to live in the same house as me. That meant lots of other LB visitors and their male friends. I was never concerned about thieving at all. Maybe once was a mixup with whose sandals were whose at the front door when a LB had feet same size as me. Ha ha.
That LB was once robbed outside a 7 Eleven by two girls on a motorcycle. It is hard to defend when long hair is being pulled. Thai bystanders like taxi drivers, etc. Showed no interest to assist the LB at all. Not clear if the girls were known to them. Phone and money stolen. So LBs can be the victim too.
Mr Enternational
12-10-19, 04:49
One more way to tell:
https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshh7eAtQAPQaHdFprWk
One more way to tell:
https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshh7eAtQAPQaHdFprWkWithout the chair, raising up the head from this position can be slightly awkward or difficult for men, but can be done. Men are more top heavy most likely with heavy shoulders and chest, and back muscles are not used to recovering from this sort of bending over (ha ha). So a man's balance be wrong. His imbalance could make him fall over instead or go no where.
I think greatly dependent on the balance of weight in the posterior and in the chest and upper body. The purpose of the chair in the test is to make the guy's imbalance worse. The classic muscleman is very top heavy and small ass.
Then whether I could do it, would just depend on the weight of the chair. If a very light chair then no great problem. My ass maybe heavier than average for a guy not in the fat category. A normal weight chair I fail, but imagine some guys would have stronger back muscles if they always worked on them. Women can be very bottom heavy because of narrow shoulders.
I think some LBs have a very female like body, so I would not be relying on this test at all. There must be real girls that would also fail.
One more way to tell:
https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/android/video.php?v=wshh7eAtQAPQaHdFprWkWhoa. Baby got back.
That's a fine looking bootay.
https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1151184-pattaya-ladyboy-in-caustic-soda-attack-on-american-who-refused-sexual-services/
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Posted yesterday at 01:53 AM.
Pattaya: Ladyboy in caustic soda attack on American who refused sexual services.
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Picture: Pattaya policeman.
Police in Pattaya said they had arrested a Thai man who they said was a ladyboy (type two woman).
The Pattaya police site on Facebook said that Anupong, 34, approached an American man offering sexual services.
After the man turned down his advances Anupong threw caustic soda (sodium hydroxide) on his back injuring him.
Anupong appeared in a police photo in front of a blonde wig and underwear.
The attack occurred on Soi 6 off Beach Road.
I'm not a fan of the Ladyboys but it's impossible to not run into a few at Nana Entertainment. Visually a lot of them are hard to tell from the real thing. When I can't tell from physical appearances usually when they talk I can tell.
PopUpMenu123
07-01-23, 21:21
Are there any BBFS providers on smooci? Pm if possible. Respectfully no TS no lady boys.
Was that really happening in the 90's? I was drugged via a beer bottle in Patpong in 1991. I've taken a lot of recreational drugs in my life but that stuff really knocked me out.
I first went to AC in 2006 and I was worried about girls drugging me with something on the nipples so that story.
Must have been doing the rounds again.
I remember being with a girl whose nipples had a very weird acidic taste so I kept wiping my mouth and tongue on the pillow.
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