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We spend probably on the high side so it is ofcourse possible to have simular fun for lower cost. The total bill when night ended was above 30K I was told and then my friend allready paid for the drinks. What will add up your bill on the high side are drinks for the ladies (400 or 500bht for each drink). The fun part is that even if you have prepaid bottles you are supposed to pay the girls even if they drink from your bottle.Hahahahaha! When in Bangkok I bet you also use 1000 Baht notes as toilet paper, right?
(Never-mind; I'm just one of those jealous Cheap Charlie's)
I Enjoy your reports.
NeverJerkOff
12-18-13, 08:57
Correct. They are akin to a West Virginia hillbilly, but with all their teeth. Most have very poor manners, are loud, and don't know how to conduct themselves. I find it so amusing when a monger takes an obvious bar girl in bar girl garb to a very upscale restaurant. Everyone is uncomfortable except the Dude. What a boob.Ok looks like I am going to have to spell this out. Here in Bangkok we have a lot of girls selling their pussy that have their shit together. The type of girls Skogis seems to be getting with, who live in any building in this city and you can find in my bed on any given day. Maybe they are opportunists more then working girls, which is why I never compensate and we usually still remain friends. They know the more they hang around foreigners the more good things will happen to them financially, whether it's 4000 in their purse, free meals, free club entrance, a rich boyfriend, husband or whatever. Maybe they have a little bit of standards and take a little bit of work but are still game for any guy that isn't a total weirdo or slob. The less you think she genuinely likes you the more generosity you should show her financially. Always keep in mind how girls normally act towards you as compared to the girls I speak of found at the bars and clubs in Sukhumvit, all listed below.
http://www.bangkok.com/sukhumvit/nightlife.htm
But seems you are referring to the obvious mongering destinations like massage parlors and bars. Even there you can find smart, polite girls who do not walk around town with their pussy hanging out. Admittedly, not a high percentage, but you can if that is what you desire.
Mr Enternational
12-18-13, 14:28
Some people prefer a bit of chemistry in their sexual life.You can't buy chemistry (but you can rent decent actors). You said that yourself:
"If you enjoy pumping away on an object that would rather be texting on their smart phone than pretending to any interest in the work Alchemists have been trying to do it forever. That's what girlfriends are for. But if you can't seem to be able to get one then that is another issue.
You can't buy chemistry (but you can rent decent actors). You said that yourself:
(snip)
Alchemists have been trying to do it forever. That's what girlfriends are for. But if you can't seem to be able to get one then that is another issue.Many want me to be their slave, er, BF, but I prefer freedom to have chemistry & biology class inside P4P ladies. To see the stained bed sheets after the deed is done. To make the girls squirm & cry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-fev20voMc
I don't speak Thai (and have no interest in learning) so it's a little difficult to for me to really get into a Thai girls head in a one on one situation (and I never repeat so my access to her little brain is limited)Speaking the language does have it's benefits and allows access into their "little brains". It's bizarre and strange inside there, and most of the time you'd wish you hadn't entered at all!
FreebieFan
12-19-13, 01:40
Arriving back home early Tuesday after a rather unusual mongerexperience starting with x mas giftshopping in NYC, meeting my special thaigirl in LAX ending up as usual in BKK.
The NYC part was with a close friend from back home and nothing extraordinary about this. During my stay here I recieved information from my special thaigirl she was actually in Los Angeles for business. Me so lucky. Beeing weakned and aroused at the same time due to this info I left all my newly bought gifts with my wingman back in NYC and informed him why (he is a very close friend so he was ofcourse supportive). I jumped on a plane and arrived into LAX a few hours later last Sunday. Spending a couple of days with ms sexy are allways nice and we barly left our Santa Monica hotel (Loews is a very nice place by the way). As we speak of without stillettos atleast 170cm well off, pale and very sexy thai beauty it was all worth changing my travel initiery a tad (supposed to be a roundtrip to EWR only). After 3 days inside our suite (almost non stop) I was feeling drenched and my sperm was not white anymore and looked more like KY. I don't know the biology behind it but this girl can make me cum way passed my usual number in one day which normaly would be a maximum of 5 to 6 times incl change of girl at one point during the day...Mr Skogis wins the " How far would you go to monger award 2013." Nice report as always sir!
Very well put.
Imagine a good day for the girl. A strange old man grabs her tits. Feels her vagina, put a penis in the vagina, ask if the anus is available, kisses the girl. Pumps for hours without cumming due to viagara, etc. All covererd. And this is a good normal customer. LOL.
All this day after day and they are rubbish by mid-20s.
How some guys think the girls got it good is beyond me.+1 from me. Bargirls generally rush to me quickly as I am relatively nice, fair, and not stingy on the scale of things and they well know there are limits to my bad behaviour. I may grab the tits or bum briefly / playfully if I know her well, but at least I don't ask for BB or A-hole and never give her a real "pounding". They are not scared of me at all. They tell me how bad some of the other customers are though. The really top bar girls are lucky enough to be able to choose and shun the customers they don't like. Regular customers generally get preference too (not the most handsome).
Its very easy to be like a "Prince among toads", without any special looks.
CheeChee889
12-19-13, 14:30
Been short-timing an ex-Rainbow 4 superstar the last 2 weeks. Value awesome at 2500 vs over $110 when she was on stage. She has admitted she has put on weight. Looking back over the past 2 weeks I notice a shape that resembles pregnancy. Bigger tits than I recall, tenderness when sucking. LOL.
Is it a bargirls M. O. To tell customers she just eating a lot to explain weight gain. As much as I like her I want no part of her if she is pregnant. I have my standards as a customer!
Tidbit, I bet this girl has more customers than than many of the girls working Rainbow 4.
Member #4698
12-19-13, 16:51
bargirls generally rush to me quickly as i am relatively nice, fair, and not stingy on the scale of things and they well know there are limits to my bad behaviour. i may grab the tits or bum briefly / playfully if i know her well, but at least i don't ask for bb or a-hole and never give her a real "pounding". they are not scared of me at all. they tell me how bad some of the other customers are though. regular customers generally get preference too (not the most handsome).
its very easy to be like a "prince among toads", it always amazes me when i read reports from guys who write bitterly about their experiences with go go girls in quality bars and talk of suffering consistently bad attitudes or lousy performance. it is bad luck of the draw when a customer occasionally experiences a so so night with a girl, but when this happens more than once within a short span of time, the fault is usually the guys. treat the girls nice. act like you are having a good time, in fact, aren't you? don't be tight about buying drinks. try to be a nice guy; smile and give the girls a reason to smile too. make the girls feel at ease. is that so hard? practice good hygiene. brush your teeth and rinse with listerine. wear clean clothes. and very important: learn how to shag. i find this very funny, but "pounding" a girl like a jack hammer is not good technique unless the girl asks for a "pounding'. and what is all this bullshit with ass fucking? just because it is all over the internet porn sites does not make it a fantastic desirable sex act. it is not all its drummed up to be. same same with cum in the mouth. it is a big internet thing and not much more. ok that's my opinion, but most thai girls are not into anal and do not want to swallow your cum. is this really news to anybody? if you want that shit (pardon the pun) limit yourself to the +a places or go to tijuana and forget about thailand.
p.s. the way you treat a girl spreads quickly throughout the go go grapevine. once you have established yourself as a good guy customer, you will be amazed at how the girls will warm to you. your reputation will proceed you every time you go back to that go go.
So let me get this right: BJ only with EE? That can't be all that's available. If a punter wanted more all he had to do was order up full service for 1000bt extra on top of the BJ service, right? The web site states "for VIP Service + 1000" and then the VIP room has a bed and soapy tub. So I am assuming that full service is on the menu if you want it.
Personally I'd take L or P over EE any day. EE's tits are a bad joke. (just my opinion) Still if all I wanted was a mouth massage, I guess EE might be ok. Her lips look interesting.Natty,
Sorry for the delay in answering. I have been very busy of late as well as being down the gym a lot. The plus 1000 is for full sex in the standard BJ booth and the duration is one hour whereas the VIP room with optional soapy is for two hours. To clarify the price question the two hour VIP is now 3,000 baht and not 2,500 as it was before. To put this into perspective this is the first price increase I have had in more than two years and the extra 500 baht goes to the ladies and not the establishment. Hope this helps.
Regards,
BJ
Wolvenvacht
12-19-13, 21:13
Arriving back home early Tuesday after a rather unusual mongerexperience starting with x mas giftshopping in NYC, meeting my special thaigirl in LAX ending up as usual in BKK.
(snipped)
Now arrived back to a barking GF. OMG.Don't forget to sell the movie rights to your life to some Hollywood director.
Beer Monger
12-19-13, 22:43
it always amazes me when i read reports from guys who write bitterly about their experiences with go go girls in quality bars and talk of suffering consistently bad attitudes or lousy performance. it is bad luck of the draw when a customer occasionally experiences a so so night with a girl, but when this happens more than once within a short span of time, the fault is usually the guys. treat the girls nice.
p. s. the way you treat a girl spreads quickly throughout the go go grapevine. once you have established yourself as a good guy customer, you will be amazed at how the girls will warm to you. your reputation will proceed you every time you go back to that go go.just like with any business. treat your vendors with respect and they come through in times of need. treat them like inferiors and watch them laugh when you hit a crisis.
Beer Monger
12-19-13, 22:50
Natty,
Sorry for the delay in answering. I have been very busy of late as well as being down the gym a lot. The plus 1000 is for full sex in the standard BJ booth and the duration is one hour whereas the VIP room with optional soapy is for two hours. To clarify the price question the two hour VIP is now 3, 000 baht and not 2, 500 as it was before. To put this into perspective this is the first price increase I have had in more than two years and the extra 500 baht goes to the ladies and not the establishment. Hope this helps.
Regards,
BJJust a suggestion that you might want to clarify the pricing section of your website. The way it reads now is "+ 1000 Baht for VIP Service". Since the rooms page says to check the prices page for the VIP room, and there is no other mention of the VIP room on the price page, I take it to mean the VIP room is 1000 baht extra for the VIP room, when it is actually +2000 Baht. Just my 0. 65 baht worth.
It always amazes me when I read reports from guys who write bitterly about their experiences with Go Go girls .If you want that shit (pardon the pun) limit yourself to the +A places or go to Tijuana and forget about Thailand.No, don't forget Thailand. There are LBs for that.
Beer Monger
12-19-13, 23:35
No, don't forget Thailand. There are LBs for that.I wish there was a "like" button! LOL.
Tony Hoeprano
12-20-13, 06:35
Don't forget to sell the movie rights to your life to some Hollywood director.Yep, like movies, his reports are a good piece of fiction ho ho ho!
it always amazes me when i read reports from guys who write bitterly about their experiences with go go girls in quality bars and talk of suffering consistently bad attitudes or lousy performance. it is bad luck of the draw when a customer occasionally experiences a so so night with a girl, but when this happens more than once within a short span of time, the fault is usually the guys. treat the girls nice. act like you are having a good time, in fact, aren't you? don't be tight about buying drinks. try to be a nice guy; smile and give the girls a reason to smile too. make the girls feel at ease. is that so hard? practice good hygiene. brush your teeth and rinse with listerine. wear clean clothes. and very important: learn how to shag. i find this very funny, but "pounding" a girl like a jack hammer is not good technique unless the girl asks for a "pounding'. and what is all this bullshit with ass fucking? just because it is all over the internet porn sites does not make it a fantastic desirable sex act. it is not all its drummed up to be. same same with cum in the mouth. it is a big internet thing and not much more. ok that's my opinion, but most thai girls are not into anal and do not want to swallow your cum. is this really news to anybody?
p. s. the way you treat a girl spreads quickly throughout the go go grapevine. once you have established yourself as a good guy customer, you will be amazed at how the girls will warm to you. your reputation will proceed you every time you go back to that go go.natty,
i agree with almost every single point you make. all good advice for getting on well with the girls. there are shit bar girls and good ones, and the same girl can be both depending on how you treat them. we have the time to see firstly which girls are highly exciting looking with their gear off. we have time to check their attitudes and the chemistry. then have to try, and sometimes / often (not always) find an extremely good or fun fuck to go with the optics. i am not looking for a porn star. bargirls may prefer to work the bar since they can choose their customers. i have seen a guy write that a girl was poor and scared on the bed (with pounding) and for me the same girl was a very enthusiastic great fuck wanting orgasm and great kissing, because i had concern for her enjoyment and making sure her pussy did not cop a bruising. if i go in the bar, she always runs to me (probably my favourite in that bar and great ass. young but has a baby already).
could go into an oily and get a girl whose body is a disaster (saggy ass, sloppy belly) and no turn on at all. see recent posts. i have a gf who has a very good curvy body (no sag) and good face, so i cannot drop my standards when mongering. just would not be a turn on after gf is still a great turn on (after 8 years).
porn doesn't affect me so have no desire to imitate all the warped / weird things that porn promotes. same as i don't want to be brain washed by religion and many other things.
i do see a value in cim, if the girl is happy with it. for me, this is when i have had too much sex and the next pop is going to be a very difficult one. however i never ask bargirls for cim. for guys who want a porn star, i recommend them to stick to the pse type of oilies. not my requirement.
Is it a bargirls M. O. To tell customers she just eating a lot to explain weight gain. As much as I like her I want no part of her if she is pregnant. I have my standards as a customer!If she is pregnant, she could make a killing. So many guys want to fuck a pregnant girl. Some sort of warped fantasy.
I recall seeing a dark skinned Sukhumvit SW a few years back that looked at least 7 months pregnant. I didn't try.
Just a suggestion that you might want to clarify the pricing section of your website. The way it reads now is "+ 1000 Baht for VIP Service". Since the rooms page says to check the prices page for the VIP room, and there is no other mention of the VIP room on the price page, I take it to mean the VIP room is 1000 baht extra for the VIP room, when it is actually +2000 Baht. Just my 0. 65 baht worth.Happy to oblige. The plus 1000 is for VIP "service" as opposed to VIP room meaning one hour in the standard BJ booth with blow-job and sex. The VIP "room" is for two hours at a cost of 3000 baht (as I stated previously). I hope this makes things clearer.
Regards,
BJ
Happy to oblige. The plus 1000 is for VIP "service" as opposed to VIP room meaning one hour in the standard BJ booth with blow-job and sex. The VIP "room" is for two hours at a cost of 3000 baht (as I stated previously). I hope this makes things clearer.
Regards,
BJI am guessing that he was suggesting that the website needed an update to make it more clear.
Western787
12-21-13, 08:44
Been in here multiple times in recent weeks trying to get the hang of the place, IMHO equal to Baccarra w / o the fire trap issue As far as "Superstars" I would say at least 30% are at least the stunning variety but not sure who would be given the superstar rating (R4 experts might want to chime in) , with #15 a slender cute blonde who was in last night probably the best last night. Although she doesn't seem to barfine much at last when I've seem her iTC in the last few weeks. Not in last night but great ass is #196. Now there is a very hot dancer #31 but dances crazy and perhaps actually is crazy. #8 very very cute. Not sure what normal level of business is in this club, while it draws good crowds every night. It does seem bar fine level is rather low. Maybe the demonstration issues cutting visitors.
Oveall this club looks excellent I have to admit
CheeChee889
12-21-13, 09:40
Been in here multiple times in recent weeks trying to get the hang of the place, IMHO equal to Baccarra w / o the fire trap issue As far as "Superstars" I would say at least 30% are at least the stunning variety but not sure who would be given the superstar rating (R4 experts might want to chime in) , with #15 a slender cute blonde who was in last night probably the best last night. Although she doesn't seem to barfine much at last when I've seem her iTC in the last few weeks. Not in last night but great ass is #196. Now there is a very hot dancer #31 but dances crazy and perhaps actually is crazy. #8 very very cute. Not sure what normal level of business is in this club, while it draws good crowds every night. It does seem bar fine level is rather low. Maybe the demonstration issues cutting visitors.
Oveall this club looks excellent I have to admitNot many guys rate #8 as hot. How do I know- she doesn't get barfined much. I see perhaps 3% stunners if that much.
Guys barfining does seem way less than I used to see. A whole lot of lookers only. I just don't see much girls worth $100 a pop. Maybe the market sees what I see- who knows.
My current analysis of Baccara. Haven't been there in over a week due to the stars not showing up, maybe theyve been barfined at 8. 59.
Crazy H had a few nice nudes on display. The night I went they were way better than the clothed.
NeverJerkOff
12-21-13, 16:07
Yeh I know what you mean TH. Apart from the ridiculous amount of name dropping, hotels, restaurants, clubs (always a sign of insecurity) there is a tedious familiarity to his posts. The girls are nearly always university students, executives or air hostesses, young and beautiful who find him so irresistible that they cannot wait to get their asses buggered. I have been around for a while and in my experience people with real money never talk about it nor do men who women find irresistible need to tell the world about it, but who knows! And before you start foaming at the mouth, no it is not envy because not being short of a bob or two I've been there done that in most of the Bangkok locations mentioned.Someone is staying at these hotels and fucking these girls. As a guy living 90% that life at 1% the price I find his stories perfectly believable. Not a big deal if there is exaggeration. And there are many guys spending that much and more on the girls. If there is one thing I would question Mr. Skogis is how he claims to get ass play most the time, even after money isn't mentioned. Is this like money is not mentioned after you split a 5000 baht bottle and she see you tip everyone 1000 baht type deals. As easy as it is to get pussy here, I find it very hard for the cute girls to give into ass fucking, working girls and normal, especially on the first encounter. If it is true, my guess would be the girls see a $500 per night hotel room and think they are in for a big pay day or are just not as hot as I am imagining.
SirWilliam4
12-21-13, 23:04
I apologize if this is a dumb question. And I'll ask it nevertheless. On a couple of occasions there has been reference to a "second floor" at R4. Recently I ducked in and out rather quickly and all I saw was the stage with all the women dancing in bikinis. What did I miss?
SW4
And what is all this bullshit with ass fucking? Just because it is all over the internet porn sites does not make it a fantastic desirable sex act.
It is not all its drummed up to be. Is this really news to anybody?
If you want that shit (pardon the pun) limit yourself to the +A places or go to Tijuana and forget about Thailand.I don't get it, why do you care if guys are fuckin asses? Sounds like a personal preference between consenting adults.
Western787
12-22-13, 02:25
Not many guys rate #8 as hot. How do I know- she doesn't get barfined much. I see perhaps 3% stunners if that much.
Guys barfining does seem way less than I used to see. A whole lot of lookers only. I just don't see much girls worth $100 a pop. Maybe the market sees what I see- who knows.
My current analysis of Baccara. Haven't been there in over a week due to the stars not showing up, maybe theyve been barfined at 8. 59.
Crazy H had a few nice nudes on display. The night I went they were way better than the clothed.Yes, my 30% stunners description is too generous, but by typical western standardsIMHO I see it as higher than 3. As far as #8 its that freshed face bird next door look that has an appeal. Hang around the ball busting fems in NYC and London-and in comparison Bangkok go go dancers can look pretty hot
Western787
12-22-13, 02:27
I apologize if this is a dumb question. And I'll ask it nevertheless. On a couple of occasions there has been reference to a "second floor" at R4. Recently I ducked in and out rather quickly and all I saw was the stage with all the women dancing in bikinis. What did I miss?
SW4Bacarra and Shark at Cowboy but far I've seen no 2nd floor at R4 in Nana
Western787
12-22-13, 02:46
At Soi Cowboy, spent a couple hrs there Saturday night, somewhat light crowd. Theater style seating not bad. Very young but pretty decent lineup. Unlike Rainbow 4 in Nana where the girls seem to just lay back between dance sets and talk to each other, at Shark they were all over the place pushing to sit down and sell lady drinks, some begging with the Wai thing. Didn't see any blokes doing any barfines while I was there.
In regard to Rainbow 4 other than #31 who I think (while rather hot) could be crazy, anyone know why the girls just keep to themselves pretty much?
I am guessing management at Rainbow 4 must instruct the girls to lay back vs Shark where they are told to be aggressive.
Western787
12-22-13, 02:51
I apologize if this is a dumb question. And I'll ask it nevertheless. On a couple of occasions there has been reference to a "second floor" at R4. Recently I ducked in and out rather quickly and all I saw was the stage with all the women dancing in bikinis. What did I miss?
SW4Probably the fact that its on 2nd floor in Nana Plaza, maybe a translation issue
SirWilliam4
12-22-13, 04:42
Thanks Western787. Maybe I'm not blind after all. .
SW4.
Probably the fact that its on 2nd floor in Nana Plaza, maybe a translation issue
CheeChee889
12-22-13, 06:24
At Soi Cowboy, spent a couple hrs there Saturday night, somewhat light crowd. Theater style seating not bad. Very young but pretty decent lineup. Unlike Rainbow 4 in Nana where the girls seem to just lay back between dance sets and talk to each other, at Shark they were all over the place pushing to sit down and sell lady drinks, some begging with the Wai thing. Didn't see any blokes doing any barfines while I was there.
In regard to Rainbow 4 other than #31 who I think (while rather hot) could be crazy, anyone know why the girls just keep to themselves pretty much?
I am guessing management at Rainbow 4 must instruct the girls to lay back vs Shark where they are told to be aggressive.Maybe Shark girls don't get barfined so they need something. I'm starting to think they don't want to be barfined as I'm always quoted 3,000 there. Everywhere else I'm quoted 2500 or less-and many times girls accept less.
If you comparing west agogos girls to BKK one. The BKK ones have 75% stunners!
I am in support of Skogis' reports.
They give an insight into the better endowed, and more interesting than the standard mongers report.
Hope you guys do not succeed in hounding him off the ISG forum.
Member #4387
12-22-13, 17:43
I am in support of Skogis' reports.
They give an insight into the better endowed, and more interesting than the standard mongers report.
Hope you guys do not succeed in hounding him off the ISG forum.Well that will not happen. I write when I have experienced something I feel is worth sharing. There are in my mongering life a lot going on outside MP, GoGo, streetwalkers etc thanks God as these venues don't suites my needs at all. Since it is a free world people are entitled to choose their own reaction upon other punters writings. I have nothing to complain about whatsoever.
Half a year back somebody rumored that SOL was to get renovated although the owner did not know in what way.
Anybody have an update?
Probably the fact that its on 2nd floor in Nana Plaza, maybe a translation issueMost likely lost in translation.
European call ground floor what the American call 1st floor. And so on.
So, at NEP when one does the first round of stairs will be first floor if European and second floor if American.
Globalization hasn't reached yet basic and useful issues.
Probably because they don't provide revenues to any corporate.
Franciscass
12-23-13, 01:42
I am in support of Skogis' reports., more interesting than the standard mongers report.Absolutely agree, along with the Economist we also need Hello mag. How else would we know how the other half lives. Seasons's greetings.
Most likely lost in translation.
European call ground floor what the American call 1st floor. And so on.
So, at NEP when one does the first round of stairs will be first floor if European and second floor if American.
Globalization hasn't reached yet basic and useful issues.
Probably because they don't provide revenues to any corporate.Thing about BKK is that there is no hard and fast rule. Ground Floor or 1st Floor depending on the building.
FreebieFan
12-23-13, 03:09
Yeh I know what you mean TH. Apart from the ridiculous amount of name dropping, hotels, restaurants, clubs (always a sign of insecurity) there is a tedious familiarity to his posts. The girls are nearly always university students, executives or air hostesses, young and beautiful who find him so irresistible that they cannot wait to get their asses buggered. I have been around for a while and in my experience people with real money never talk about it nor do men who women find irresistible need to tell the world about it, but who knows! And before you start foaming at the mouth, no it is not envy because not being short of a bob or two I've been there done that in most of the Bangkok locations mentioned.Live and let live. We all report on here in our own particular way. I particularly enjoy his reports as both his reporting is similar to my own (when I have the time) and he reminds me of myself. Back when I was young handsome and rich. There are and always will be all different types who report in many ways here. If one particular fella irks you, use that ignore button. But no need to rain on everyones parade. Live let live and enjoy life. As Skogis undoubtedly does.
Pointy Stick
12-23-13, 04:27
Half a year back somebody rumored that SOL was to get renovated although the owner did not know in what way.
Anybody have an update?The refurb is still in progress as of Friday. It looks quite substantial and given it is Thailand I estimate completion in 6 months.
Western787
12-23-13, 04:27
Maybe shark girls don't get barfined so they need something. I'm starting to think they don't want to be barfined as I'm always quoted 3000 there. Everywhere else I'm quoted 2500 or less-and many times girls accept less.
If you comparing west agogos girls to BKK one. The BKK ones have 75% stunners!True, even at Beer Garden where most are age 30 to 40 or higher and 4 through 7 level. Last night some (albeit modest) stunners actually did roll in around 8 pm. Pretty face, slender figure, leggy, small waist, clear skin, (breast size irrelevant) to me at least that puts into the 8 category. For example I ask this question, lets say you were in London or NYC, would you do a doubletake? It yes IMHO she's a stunner type.
Live and let live. We all report on here in our own particular way. I particularly enjoy his reports as both his reporting is similar to my own (when I have the time) and he reminds me of myself. Back when I was young handsome and rich. There are and always will be all different types who report in many ways here. If one particular fella irks you, use that ignore button. But no need to rain on everyones parade. Live let live and enjoy life. As Skogis undoubtedly does.Very well said. All too often people get sidetracked on this forum and start discussing synthetic TRT or whether Indian mongers should tuck their shirt in or not. No doubt there are forums to discuss such matters but this is not it. So I find it slightly incredulous that when Skogis goes to the trouble of reporting on his escapades people have the nerve to doubt his honesty.
Even more to the point one "member" went as far as suggesting his reports are not only delusional but also demonstrate his insecurity. I think this is particularly farcical on the grounds I know Skogis and insecurity is not a character trait he either demonstrates nor hides. Secondly this accuser rarely posts field reports. So take a good look in the mirror before you start pointing the finger. Enjoy the fact that there are still people like Skogis on this forum who take the time to post relevant FR's.
Regards,
BJ
Maybe shark girls don't get barfined so they need something. I'm starting to think they don't want to be barfined as I'm always quoted 3000 there. Everywhere else I'm quoted 2500 or less-and many times girls accept less.
If you comparing west agogos girls to BKK one. The BKK ones have 75% stunners!Gross exaggeration. Yeh, well if you like fake and plastic / silicone girls, Sharks and Baccara are the places. Not many naturally good looking girls in these places. Not for me. I can find more naturally looking girls in some other bars. To my taste Sharks has about 5% to 10% stunners (well at least pretty) by 9 PM. Maybe some good ones left early.
I did not notice as much as one single fake nose in Long Gun recently (maybe could have missed a really good job). Different bars. A completely different style of girl. A few silicone tits but a minor percentage. Not many fake noses in Crazy House either. Girls in there have a much more raw wayward sexual look in there instead of cutsy dolls in Shark.
When seeing girls walking along the Soi Cowboy, its amazing how many of them can be picked as a Shark or Baccara girl by the look, before they arrive there.
Japanese seem to frequent a lot of different Cowboy bars these days, but almost always wanting white skin of course, and often liking the fake looks but not always.
Gross exaggeration. Yeh, well if you like fake and plastic / silicone girls, Sharks and Baccara are the places. Not many naturally good looking girls in these places. Not for me. I can find more naturally looking girls in some other bars. To my taste Sharks has about 5% to 10% stunners (well at least pretty) by 9 PM. Maybe some good ones left early.
I did not notice as much as one single fake nose in Long Gun recently (maybe could have missed a really good job). Different bars. A completely different style of girl. A few silicone tits but a minor percentage. Not many fake noses in Crazy House either. Girls in there have a much more raw wayward sexual look in there instead of cutsy dolls in Shark.
When seeing girls walking along the Soi Cowboy, its amazing how many of them can be picked as a Shark or Baccara girl by the look, before they arrive there.
Japanese seem to frequent a lot of different Cowboy bars these days, but almost always wanting white skin of course, and often liking the fake looks but not always.If it is a good nose job, you can't even tell. Gone are the days of Thai surgeons giving every gal the "Michael Jackson."
Franciscass
12-23-13, 11:56
Live and let live. We all report on here in our own particular way. I particularly enjoy his reports as both his reporting is similar to my own (when I have the time) and he reminds me of myself. Back when I was young handsome and rich. There are and always will be all different types who report in many ways here. If one particular fella irks you, use that ignore button. But no need to rain on everyones parade. Live let live and enjoy life. As Skogis undoubtedly does.Couldn't agree more with you Freebiefan, live, let live and enjoy life philosophy that's me and no Skogis doesn't irk me why should he. It's a forum; people provide information and express opinions on other's post, that's how it works. No need to exercise the ignore button I find his writing style articulate but the content I happen to believe is part truth and part fantasy but I read it like I also read other fiction. He gets off on what he writes, no harm done. That's my opinion and if you find that unacceptable then as wisely suggested use the ignore button.
If it is a good nose job, you can't even tell. Gone are the days of Thai surgeons giving every gal the "Michael Jackson."It's true, Thai surgeons are really good now. The problem is what the girls ask for. Many of them still actually like that strange exaggerated look to their noses (just check out the TV soap opera actresses). And of course many of them doing boob jobs don't go up just one or two sizes as they ought to, but insist on giant plastic boobs that look totally fake. Stranger still, there must be quite a few punters who like those things too, or otherwise Shark etc. Wouldn't be full of those girls.
But 'raw wayward sexual look', hmm. I like the sound of that. Must check out Crazy.
Hi,
I am new to the local Thai forum and will be in BKK in a few weeks. Tried to search a bit more info on the forum on the BDSM scene with no success.
Anyone can shed some light, clubs, girls services etc or direct me to the right info sources please.
Cheers,
Joe
Hi,
I am new to the local Thai forum and will be in BKK in a few weeks. Tried to search a bit more info on the forum on the BDSM scene with no success.
Anyone can shed some light, clubs, girls services etc or direct me to the right info sources please.
Cheers,
JoeThe 2 that I remember (not being a S&M guy) were. BB BarBar on Patpong 2, and Demonia on a sub soi of Soi 33 also both links below.
http://www.demoniabangkok.com/dominas_demonia_bangkok.html
http://barbarfetishclub.com/bangkok-thailand.html
Another one I noticed was that looks interesting is Thaidomina, the link below.
http://www.thaidomina.com/home.html
Hi,
I am new to the local Thai forum and will be in BKK in a few weeks. Tried to search a bit more info on the forum on the BDSM scene with no success.
Anyone can shed some light, clubs, girls services etc or direct me to the right info sources please.
Cheers,
JoeHttp://www.thailand-undressed.com/bangkok-bdsm-fetish.html
http://barbarfetishclub.com/
The Bar Bar Club is a popular BDSM club located on Patpong 2. You might want to first give that club a try and expand from there.
Good luck.
Beijing4987
12-23-13, 20:38
I read the forum to find pussy and post reports if I find it. I ignore posters who only exhibit narcissism. If the guy actually tells us where he found her so he could fuck her x times that is a plus otherwise it is just Penthouse Letter again, and again. Why not create a thread for these longwinded fuck reports? I do like Freebie Fan and his attitude. His reports are not boring because he is actually educating how to get free pussy.
Couldn't agree more with you Freebiefan, live, let live and enjoy life philosophy that's me and no Skogis doesn't irk me why should he. It's a forum; people provide information and express opinions on other's post, that's how it works. No need to exercise the ignore button I find his writing style articulate but the content I happen to believe is part truth and part fantasy but I read it like I also read other fiction. He gets off on what he writes, no harm done. That's my opinion and if you find that unacceptable then as wisely suggested use the ignore button.[/QUOTE]
Originally Posted by Ehunter [View Original Post]
Half a year back somebody rumored that SOL was to get renovated although the owner did not know in what way.
Anybody have an update?
The refurb is still in progress as of Friday. It looks quite substantial and given it is Thailand I estimate completion in 6 months.Sounds like you got a look at what they are trying to do.
So what do you think. They are not looking to ruin the exhibitionist flavor of the place are they?
Or do you think it is too early to tell?
CheeChee889
12-24-13, 06:28
Free means lying and scheming the girl. What else do you need to know.
I read the forum to find pussy and post reports if I find it. I ignore posters who only exhibit narcissism. If the guy actually tells us where he found her so he could fuck her x times that is a plus otherwise it is just Penthouse Letter again, and again. Why not create a thread for these longwinded fuck reports? I do like Freebie Fan and his attitude. His reports are not boring because he is actually educating how to get free pussy.+1 from me. Some guys like the long winded penthouse type letters like a Kumbu report, which is fine. I just ignore because very little actual information. Perhaps some opinion about how to operate buried in there somewhere but I like more logical stuff than psychedelic, or subtle situation comedy stuff like Nic Frenchy used to write.
We just have to learn to ignore stuff of no use, particularly the very negative posters who just dump shit on everyone.
last time i was in bkk was around 2008. i just did the rounds a couple nights ago for first time since then. nana has always been my main spot, with cowboy as plan b.
in brief, nana right now is not what it was. there are a few spots where bars were (big ones even) that are now vacant. the number of katoey bars seems to be up. i remember one thing i used to do was stand near (or in) big dog at 2am closing time to watch everyone exit, which was a steady flow of crowd for something like 20-30 minutes, lots of girls exiting on their way home. and of course katoeys out in front (they patrol the entrance all evening) and others from those bars exiting too. last night it had to be 80% katoeys exiting at 2am. i guess the way it works is that girls get taken as the night goes on so there's not as many of them still in the bars by 2am, while i guess it doens't work that way in the fewer katoey bars that are in there. whatever, that was definitely not the place to be to make a late-stage pickup. the lineup across the street at the nana hotel car park was terrible last night. again, nothing like when i was there last time when there were dozens available there at 2am.
thermae was lousy, not really worth visiting. it didn't have the japanese-domination that i've seen in the past, but also not really anything i was tempted by in terms of girls.
soi cowboy, i have to say, is better than ever, as far as i could tell. seemed like quite a few bars that were well stocked with talent. as opposed to nana which had just a couple bars that i could find that had good selection and seemed happening (rainbow 4 and mandarin upstairs). at cowboy, my first stop was baccara. girls there seemed just as good as rainbow 4, a few 8s and 9s. i didn't see a 10 all night, i have to say, in any place. otherwise, rawhide was pretty amazing. girls there are overall almost as good as the previous 2, definitely a step up from the average place in terms of looks, but these girls really put their heart into the dancing, and if you have one sit with you and get her a drink, well, it can get mighty cozy. i never experienced that in a non-diddling bar. i'm not sure what the deal is there though because my girl didn't once pose the question of go-to-hotel, yet was all over me and eager, made me take her phone number after i paid to go. i'm wondering if policy there is that they can't be barfined, it seemed odd that she never offered. if it is, well, it seems as if they're plenty content with going with the customer outside working hours, so i guess that can be ok. just a little inconvenient. another question: what type of bar is crocodile dundee? is it just a normal go-go or is it more in the after school category? hard to tell and i was too tired by then to go try it.
so nana was a big disappointment i have to say. rainbow was no where close to as good as it has been in the past (to my eyes). it also wasn't packed with customers as i've seen it before. did not see a single drop-dead gorgeous girl there. lots in the 8 category but nothing that seemed like an obvious one to go for. rawhide was a big revelation, nice to find something new and interesting like that.
ah i had a good expreience at after school once years ago, got dragged in by a girl who was young and hot, a solid 9, who almost immediately started french-kissing to get me in the mood. but peeked in there last night and there was nothing close to enticing, which i guess is to be expected at that type of bar.
another thing i noticed was some girls in go-go outfits moving from one bar to another, and i believe they were exiting midnight and headed toward spice girls. would that be right? it looked like they were staffing both places, being moved from one to the other.
so that was my one night in bangkok. didn't close the deal on anything but more of a reconnaissance night.
Another change I forgot to mention was the area of Sukhumvit where it's all black African girls. Weird. They aren't my cup of tea, I have to say, but how strange to see that. When I used to go to BKK more often, you would just see them down on soi 3, and not as many. And now there's katoeys pretty much everywhere in abundance. But way too many down at Nana, both on Sukhumvit there and in the soi, and more and more the later it got. A bit much really. Honestly it looks like what is happening is that Nana is on its way to turning into the katoey bar area, and Cowboy will be the straight one. It's getting so dominated by katoeys down there that it will be driving a lot of straight customers away, it's just too much now. They're everywhere, and everywhere you go at Soi Nana at 1am-2am.
Another change I forgot to mention was the area of Sukhumvit where it's all black African girls. Weird. They aren't my cup of tea, I have to say, but how strange to see that. When I used to go to BKK more often, you would just see them down on soi 3, and not as many. And now there's katoeys pretty much everywhere in abundance. But way too many down at Nana, both on Sukhumvit there and in the soi, and more and more the later it got. A bit much really. Honestly it looks like what is happening is that Nana is on its way to turning into the katoey bar area, and Cowboy will be the straight one. It's getting so dominated by katoeys down there that it will be driving a lot of straight customers away, it's just too much now. They're everywhere, and everywhere you go at Soi Nana at 1am-2am.I suppose whatever is out there reflects upon the laws of supply and demand.
Typicaly lower Sukhumvit in the daytime had no black African P4P workers the other day, & several TGs. Including a cute busty DD in a school girl type of outfit.
Soi 4 had what seemed to be a blond LB on the wrong side of the street in the early evening. Maybe she was confused as to location & or time & where "she" should be.
Another question: what type of bar is Crocodile Dundee?Australians only. No Japanese allowed.
Just a guess.
. And now there's katoeys pretty much everywhere in abundance. But way too many down at Nana, both on Sukhumvit there and in the soi, and more and more the later it got. A bit much really. Honestly it looks like what is happening is that Nana is on its way to turning into the katoey bar area, and Cowboy will be the straight one. It's getting so dominated by katoeys down there that it will be driving a lot of straight customers away, it's just too much now. They're everywhere, and everywhere you go at Soi Nana at 1am-2am.Perhaps a sign of the times. Nana is the new gay destination?
Perhaps a sign of the times. Nana is the new gay destination?What are they, LB's?
Western787
12-25-13, 05:08
Note that Stickman's joke April 1st was that Nana Plaza was officially going 100% ladyboy. IMHO seems like most of them just like parading around and being seen as "women" and the business part is just a minor issue. Note the voice drop real low when they are talking to each, I mean you have to laugh at how over the top they are.
As for Rainbow 4 last night? #15 was in, the cute blonde, and some others but some missing. I know blokes in London who would give anything to even have the slightly less cute girls in R4 to hang with each night
I need an R4 expert to tell me exactly how R4 girls typically make money, because the amount of hang time (doing nothing between sets sitting with each other) is huge. No pushing of drinks or intermingling except a few girls. I am sure most would readily accept a lady drink for a chat, but the business model here doesn't make much sense to me
Do these girls get a per diem base rate like the G club girls? But even G club girls got to push drinks.
Its almost like these R4 girls are shy or at least 90% of them are
Western787
12-25-13, 05:13
There is a beautiful waitress that works there, tall. Slender, and elegant. Unfortunately her personality? Difficult to say the least, and noticeably out character for Thai women
what type of bar is Crocodile Dundee?Seems to be a straight bar. Otherwise they'd have called it "Cockodile Dandy"
What are they, LB's?Yes that's correct.
The Katoey ratio has steadily risen in that area over the years, and where it used to be a great spot for a 2am pickup, it's now mobs of katoeys that you're navigating through. Just not a pleasant experience.
Anyway, a key question, do girls at Rawhide get barfined as in other bars, or is it a different situation where they go after closing or during day?
Seems to be a straight bar. Otherwise they'd have called it "Cockodile Dandy"Yeah it's obviously not a gay bar, I meant whether its a BJ or diddling bar or a typical go go setup.
Thanks so much for the info.
Any chance you know about fetish closing shops? (for both male and female)
Thanks
Http://www.thailand-undressed.com/bangkok-bdsm-fetish.html
http://barbarfetishclub.com/
The Bar Bar Club is a popular BDSM club located on Patpong 2. You might want to first give that club a try and expand from there.
Good luck.
Yeah it's obviously not a gay bar, I meant whether its a BJ or diddling bar or a typical go go setup.Was there tonight. Seems like a small go-go with coyotes. Surprised the hell out of me when I tried to BF the gal I was buying THB 200 drinks for and found that she just dances.
That seems to be a strong trend, the coyote dancers thing. Good to know, guess I can skip that place then. Crocodile Dundee I mean.
Which bats are "The Atab" bats? Because I have heard those run the coyote dancer scheme too.
Which bats are "The Atab" bats? Because I have heard those run the coyote dancer scheme too.I meant Which bars are "The Arab" bars?
TesterTester
12-26-13, 04:35
Note that Stickman's joke April 1st was that Nana Plaza was officially going 100% ladyboy. IMHO seems like most of them just like parading around and being seen as "women" and the business part is just a minor issue. Note the voice drop real low when they are talking to each, I mean you have to laugh at how over the top they are.
As for Rainbow 4 last night? #15 was in, the cute blonde, and some others but some missing. I know blokes in London who would give anything to even have the slightly less cute girls in R4 to hang with each night
I need an R4 expert to tell me exactly how R4 girls typically make money, because the amount of hang time (doing nothing between sets sitting with each other) is huge. No pushing of drinks or intermingling except a few girls. I am sure most would readily accept a lady drink for a chat, but the business model here doesn't make much sense to me
Do these girls get a per diem base rate like the G club girls? But even G club girls got to push drinks.
Its almost like these R4 girls are shy or at least 90% of them areYes, the girls get a base rate of 600 baht per night and 50 baht per lady drink.
Western787
12-26-13, 04:46
Based on what I saw last night between 8 pm and 10 pm, nowhere near Baccara or Rainbow 4 in quality. I actually there before 8 pm but no happy hour prices The gimmick is half the girls dance totally nude and they grab their crotch as they dance. The first hour was mostly 5's and 6's and a few 7s then later some high 7's came in and perhaps a borderline 8. At least twice before 9 pm saw Farangs step into the club and take a peak, then walk out. In fairness full nude dancing doesn't exactly make most women look hotter. There were 6's who nude perhaps looked like 5's.
The barfine is said to be 600 plus 800 for "showgirls".who I guess by 9 pm were the 4 or 5 girls that were kind of hot and eventually started dancing, but none of the hotter girls and cuter girls seem to going full nude.
The seating is a little bit like Shark Bar (which has nice theater setup) has but not as good, just not alot of room in the tiered seats.
There were about average of 5 to 6 customers in the club in those 2 hours, with one guy doing barfine, and 2 Japanese guys hanging out.
There are some cute girls in here, but for example Rainbow 4 is loaded with cute high 7 types, they are everywhere at R4
Western787
12-26-13, 05:00
Yes, the girls get a base rate of 600 baht per night and 50 baht per lady drink.600 base could explain why they get all these cute girls. Is that common in go-gos? I know the G clubs do that, and as I recall its even a bit higher, but G club girls can push drinks w / o any implications of they being anything beyond (dance-only) coyotes.
Originally Posted by Yujin [View Original Post]
Http://www.thailand-undressed.com/ba.sm-fetish.html
http://barbarfetishclub.com/
The Bar Bar Club is a popular BDSM club located on Patpong 2. You might want to first give that club a try and expand from there.
Good luck.
Thanks so much for the info.
Any chance you know about fetish closing shops? (for both male and female)
ThanksThe Bar Bar website says there is a special event at the end of Dec so I am not sure why you feel they may have closed shop.
Yes, the girls get a base rate of 600 baht per night and 50 baht per lady drink.But at the same time the girls are fined for many things from not meeting drink or bar fine quotas to being late or taking more than 3 days off a month. I know a bunch of girls who end up at the end of the month with very little salary coming their way.
In Soi Cowboy most of the Arab bars are easy to spot. Lots of neon and lots of Coyote girls (again easy to spot because they are all dressed the same and are actually good looking for the most part) out front acting as touts to get you into the bar to waste your money. Avoid. Nana now has 2 Coyote bars that I know of. What used to be Las Vegas on the 3rd floor and now Fantasia has gone to 50% Coyotes though I was told by a waitress there that they are barfinable for 1, 100 baht but they were not much better looking than the regular dancers.
And Stickman's Nana LB joke is becoming all too real. Other than the 4 all LB bars a few others have some in the line-up which I think is really unfair unless they I'd themselves as such. Lollipop, Erotica and that little one on the left on the second floor and I suspect I have seen some in Spankys but not positive.
I see many policemen in Sukhumvit these days, and opposite Hollys Coffee I always see some farangs sitting obviosly arguing with policemen. Above is a sign "no littering". I haven't seen them so active before, maybe in need of money.
How much is the fine?
I see many policemen in Sukhumvit these days, and opposite Hollys Coffee I always see some farangs sitting obviosly arguing with policemen. Above is a sign "no littering". I haven't seen them so active before, maybe in need of money :-D.
How much is the fine?I think it is between 200 and 500 bahts. They might be buddhist but enjoy Christmas gifts.
The best is probably not to walk around smoking, eating and drinking, signs of possible littering (whether real or fictious).
I see many policemen in Sukhumvit these days, and opposite Hollys Coffee I always see some farangs sitting obviosly arguing with policemen. Above is a sign "no littering". I haven't seen them so active before, maybe in need of money :-D.
How much is the fine?More than a decade ago, I was nabbed for littering in JJ market. Back then it was 1500 baht.
I see many policemen in Sukhumvit these days, and opposite Hollys Coffee I always see some farangs sitting obviosly arguing with policemen. Above is a sign "no littering". I haven't seen them so active before, maybe in need of money :-D.
How much is the fine?They are notpolice.
They work for the BMA and have zero authority to detain or fine people.
They have people stationed up and down Sukhumvit who act as spotters and watch for anyone smoking a cigarette, they then radio the nearest person who then follows them waiting for them to drop the cigarette on the floor. Then they try to get 2000 baht fine from them. And everyone pays because they think they are police. As tourists cannot read Thai and cannot see they are BMA people and not police. They pay up.
It is a total scam. But then this is Bangkok. Run by the Democrats and the BMA is Democrat Party run.
As a word of warning. Many foreigners are now reporting being verbally abused and pushed by anti-government (anti-democracy) protestors. These people are ultra-Nationalists and hate farang generally and are really upset the worlds media is reporting them for what they are. So if you are in Bangkok steer well clear of them and if you see a group of people with whistles or who look like protesters. Keep away from them for your own safety.
TesterTester
12-26-13, 17:15
But at the same time the girls are fined for many things from not meeting drink or bar fine quotas to being late or taking more than 3 days off a month. I know a bunch of girls who end up at the end of the month with very little salary coming their way.
In Soi Cowboy most of the Arab bars are easy to spot. Lots of neon and lots of Coyote girls (again easy to spot because they are all dressed the same and are actually good looking for the most part) out front acting as touts to get you into the bar to waste your money. Avoid. Nana now has 2 Coyote bars that I know of. What used to be Las Vegas on the 3rd floor and now Fantasia has gone to 50% Coyotes though I was told by a waitress there that they are barfinable for 1, 100 baht but they were not much better looking than the regular dancers.
And Stickman's Nana LB joke is becoming all too real. Other than the 4 all LB bars a few others have some in the line-up which I think is really unfair unless they I'd themselves as such. Lollipop, Erotica and that little one on the left on the second floor and I suspect I have seen some in Spankys but not positive.That's correct: they do only get 3 days off a month technically and they must have a certain number of bar fines a month and meet their quota for drinks, or their salary gets deducted. I don't know how much the quota is. I once did know, but I forgot. Don't really care to know I guess.
Based on what I saw last night between 8 pm and 10 pm, nowhere near Baccara or Rainbow 4 in quality. I actually there before 8 pm but no happy hour prices The gimmick is half the girls dance totally nude and they grab their crotch as they dance. The first hour was mostly 5's and 6's and a few 7s then later some high 7's came in and perhaps a borderline 8. At least twice before 9 pm saw Farangs step into the club and take a peak, then walk out. In fairness full nude dancing doesn't exactly make most women look hotter. There were 6's who nude perhaps looked like 5's.
The barfine is said to be 600 plus 800 for "showgirls". Who I guess by 9 pm were the 4 or 5 girls that were kind of hot and eventually started dancing, but none of the hotter girls and cuter girls seem to going full nude. The seating is a little bit like Shark Bar (which has nice theater setup) has but not as good, just not alot of room in the tiered seats. There were about average of 5 to 6 customers in the club in those 2 hours, with one guy doing barfine, and 2 Japanese guys hanging out. There are some cute girls in here, but for example Rainbow 4 is loaded with cute high 7 types, they are everywhere at R4True in terms of looks overall the Rb4 and Baccara lineups are better, tho I would say I didn't see any in those 2 bars that seriously tempted me as a must try. Almost but not quite. And at rawhide there were a few who were almost but not quite, actually 3 that I remember. When I was there there was no nude dancing, this from around 12 to 1:15 or so. The clear difference at Rawhode was the girls' attitude. My girl was al over me, danced and gyrated a few times for me. I saw others doing that for their customers, and the guy next to me was in a French kissing session with his girl, while another 2 guys were getting lap dances. I didn't see anything close to this at RB4 or Baccara. Visitor numbers seem down now, noticeable even at RB4, so maybe the ideal time to get special attention like this from the girl of your choice. Oh and, last thing, those girls at Rawhide seriously dance. Number 69 for example was amazing. Great curvy body and excellent ass. Not my preferred type bu she was seriouy tempting me to convert. Every once in a while they do a song with a middle eastern type beat, and the girls dance in a kind of belly dancing style (almost). It's pretty hot.
Somewhere15
12-27-13, 10:38
I see many policemen in Sukhumvit these days, and opposite Hollys Coffee I always see some farangs sitting obviosly arguing with policemen. Above is a sign "no littering". I haven't seen them so active before, maybe in need of money :-D.
How much is the fine?I give you my experience and view.
A city should be proud on their visitors and want them to be returning and positive over their experience in the city. Bangkok is an example where it looks like they act opposite.
In my view the City officials do not look to this aspect and it seems that (Police) departments are operating very Independently in their policy when and where to control (and that is also they reason why you do not see this in every part of Bangkok).
At least for sure they target only tourist people; I look to this already for years and never saw that a Thai person got a fine.
So it seems to me that the local Police has created 'fine point'. Around 500 meters from a (mobile) fine point there is even no dustbin. And when the fine point is in operation (at least that was / is the case between Soi 2 and 4 and around Soi 22 and Soi 24 by the Emporium, they put plastic bins outside to show you where you can drop your stuff.
If you drop a cigarette or a napkin they come to you and guide you to the fine point. The officer their (who mostly also do not speak any English makes a report, you have to show your I'd and they ask for THB 2. 000 payment. Only if you ask for it they give you a copy of the in Thai written document which you had to under sign.
Mid 2000 they picked me several times, mostly for dropping a cigarette or napkin in a flower basked (by the absent of a dustbin). The first time, I guess around 2005 I paid the fine and continuing, I was wrong so count your blessings. Shortly after they picked me again but I started to argue about where I should have leave my short cigarette piece because by a lack to dustbins. Only one guy spoke a little English and probably I was too complex for him and they send me away without paying anything.
Some years later they picked me again and they wanted 2000. I showed them a THB 500 biljet and said it was all I have but offered them my credit card. The guy was so smart to take the THB 500 note.
I saw also the activities between Robinson Soi 19 and Soi 3 so on a certain day I took pictures. One officer stand up and asked me why I took picture. I answered him: it's for your next Marketing campaign. LOL.
Anyhow it seems additional income for the police but a city who support this on the end would get customers who act as customers: they chooses with their feeds and would stay away. I believe it's a form of what the protesters these days publicly say: we want change. So it will take some years before the dustbins are back in the street and police will try to help you instead of rip you.
Honestly it looks like what is happening is that Nana is on its way to turning into the katoey bar area, and Cowboy will be the straight one. It's getting so dominated by katoeys down there that it will be driving a lot of straight customers away, it's just too much now. They're everywhere, and everywhere you go at Soi Nana at 1am-2am.Unfortunately the ladyboys are starting to infiltrate and stuff up Cowboy too. Cockatoo bar plus "Five Star" I think it was plus the odd Katoey sighted at Deja Vu since years ago.
Then there are the girls in Baccara that have been "altered" so much that they remind me of ladyboys in appearance. LOL. Still popular with the Japanese customers though.
There are several Coyote oriented bars in Cowboy now, most owned by "the Arab" (who is not really an Arab at all) . I struggle to remember the names perfectly. Consult the bangkokeyes web site. I think they are like: "Club Rio", "Midnite","Deja Vu", "Cowboy 2", "Kiss", "Sahara" (I try to recall the signs as have not been inside all of them). Someone correct me if I got a name wrong (should be close). There is a rumour that these bars don't actually have to make a profit as may be there for the purpose of laundering money made from other businesses. Having looked into these bars on occasions, they don't look like they have enough customers to be profitable but seem to keep going some how. Some of them are mixed business with half Coyote girls and half go-go girls. usually the go-go girls are of low quality.
Doll House and maybe some others has just a very small number of coyote girls that work out the front in the street to try to attract customers.
That's correct: they do only get 3 days off a month technically and they must have a certain number of bar fines a month and meet their quota for drinks, or their salary gets deducted. I don't know how much the quota is. I once did know, but I forgot. Don't really care to know I guess.Despite bargirls having very few days off, the reality is that they are taking a lot of days off and many risk being fined the majority of their monthly salary. Some girls do not show up to work for a trivial reason, like it was raining and they might get wet, so not worth chancing to get sick.
Based on what I saw last night between 8 pm and 10 pm, nowhere near Baccara or Rainbow 4 in quality. I actually there before 8 pm but no happy hour prices The gimmick is half the girls dance totally nude and they grab their crotch as they dance. The first hour was mostly 5's and 6's and a few 7s then later some high 7's came in and perhaps a borderline 8. At least twice before 9 pm saw Farangs step into the club and take a peak, then walk out. In fairness full nude dancing doesn't exactly make most women look hotter. There were 6's who nude perhaps looked like 5's.I don't find nude dancing to be a "Gimmick". I like it. I think girls with good bodies can really look at their best with their gear off to show the beautiful curves. Also you get to see clearly just how hot the girls really are or not. It helps avoid picking a girl with something about her body that you don't like that was hidden. For example, I don't find extra large protruding pussy lips to be that attractive nor very wrinkled ones. Others guys may like it. As to grabbing the crotch, I think its more likely that some girls are indicating some shyness by attempting to hide their pussy, at least that is what I observed in Long Gun and other bars. I haven't seen many girls grabbing their crotch in a raunchy manner. Girls are normally nude to make more money but only are small percentage are true wanton exhibitionists.
I recently did go into Rawhide briefly, but the quality of girls was well below Long Gun to my taste, so I did not stay that long. Doll House has a lot of very mediocre girls but just a couple of really good bodies including the Coyote girls there. The Dollhouse mamasan is a real pest. It was a serious mistake to ever be nice to her as now she does not leave me alone, so now I have to ignore her. Suzie Wong has a large number of girls and is busy, so a few good ones. I find SW not quite as relaxed an atmosphere as what I would ideally like. They hassle the customers to pick a girl a bit too much.
Its very important in most Cowboy bars not to be nice to anyone, except for those you want to keep returning to you all the time. Overly nice guys get swamped. LOL
I give you my experience and view.
A city should be proud on their visitors and want them to be returning and positive over their experience in the city. Bangkok is an example where it looks like they act opposite.Looks like they think they are in Singapore. LOL Its just a money making scheme. The whole Police force is based on corruption as the means of making a living. One wonders if the opposition to the government is really serious about finding a road to reduce corruption in the future. They can't just sack the majority of the police force.
Other than the 4 all LB bars a few others have some in the line-up which I think is really unfair unless they I'd themselves as such.Took me a while to guess what this was trying to say. Sorry. Just pulling your leg. ;) I know the problem is probably the forum automated software that tries to correct what you wrote, but actually can mash it completely. I hate it when words I did not write appear. e.g. "Mamas an" instead of Mamasan, "I'd" instead of Id. A few punctuation marks might make it a little easier to follow though, for non-intuitive types like me.
My recommendation is to cut/copy your entire post before posting. After posting, then edit it, wipe out the entire mashed text, and then paste your message back in again and save. This causes your original unedited text to appear.
I give you my experience and view.
A city should be proud on their visitors and want them to be returning and positive over their experience in the city. Bangkok is an example where it looks like they act opposite.
In my view the City officials do not look to this aspect and it seems that (Police) departments are operating very Independently in their policy when and where to control (and that is also they reason why you do not see this in every part of Bangkok).
At least for sure they target only tourist people; I look to this already for years and never saw that a Thai person got a fine.
So it seems to me that the local Police has created 'fine point'. Around 500 meters from a (mobile) fine point there is even no dustbin. And when the fine point is in operation (at least that was / is the case between Soi 2 and 4 and around Soi 22 and Soi 24 by the Emporium, they put plastic bins outside to show you where you can drop your stuff.
If you drop a cigarette or a napkin they come to you and guide you to the fine point. The officer their (who mostly also do not speak any English makes a report, you have to show your I'd and they ask for THB 2. 000 payment. Only if you ask for it they give you a copy of the in Thai written document which you had to under sign..See my earlier post. They are not Police!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1512077&viewfull=1#post1512077
Western787
12-27-13, 21:03
Got there much later than usual, after 12:30 AM, and I noticed right away the girls were circulating and trying to get lady drinks much more than normal. Didn't see that in the other 10 or so visits in the last month or so. There were at least 10 to 15 stunners, some I had not seen before, and many others I'd describe as very cute to hot. Fairly busy when I first arrived with a lot of Japanese. As far as makeout girls compared to Rawhile someone mentioned below, #31 will do sometimes do quick makeout sessions right in full view at the bar rail. Didn't see her tonight. Perhaps got barfined.
Management must have figured out they were leaving money on the table by letting all these girls hang idle in.between dance sets. Either that or it was just a fluke
Wolvenvacht
12-27-13, 21:10
I give you my experience and view.
(snip)
If you drop a cigarette or a napkin they come to you and guide you to the fine point. The officer their (who mostly also do not speak any English makes a report, you have to show your I'd and they ask for THB 2. 000 payment. Only if you ask for it they give you a copy of the in Thai written document which you had to under sign.Easy, don't litter and they leave you in peace.
. Mid 2000 they picked me several times, mostly for dropping a cigarette or napkin in a flower basked (by the absent of a dustbin). The first time, I guess around 2005 I paid the fine and continuing, I was wrong so count your blessings. Shortly after they picked me again but I started to argue about where I should have leave my short cigarette piece because by a lack to dustbins. Only one guy spoke a little English and probably I was too complex for him and they send me away without paying anything.
Some years later they picked me again and they wanted 2000. I showed them a THB 500 biljet and said it was all I have but offered them my credit card. The guy was so smart to take the THB 500 note.Why is it that they put up a sign that tells you that it is forbidden to lilter on the streets of BKK? I believe that it is because they don't want people to throw napkins or cigarrets in the streets. Where I am from we don't litter. Therefor I don't litter when I am in BKK. If people followed the rules there wouldn't be a problem. I agree that it can be hard to find dustbins beside from outside everyother Family Mart and 7 / Elleven but that doesn't give rights to litter. Just my humble opinion here on the "International Sexguide Bangkok Reports Thread" ha ha
Danieol Brasil
12-27-13, 23:55
Hi!
I will be for New Years Eve in Bangkok. What are the best places to go for New Years Eve. Is there also party in Nana and Soi Cowboy?
Any special events for new years eve?
Easy, don't litter and they leave you in peace.Exactly. Its like going to a friends house, throwing shit on the floor and then complaining when they get mad.
Their house, their rules.
They are notpolice.
They work for the BMA and have zero authority to detain or fine people.
They have people stationed up and down Sukhumvit who act as spotters and watch for anyone smoking a cigarette, they then radio the nearest person who then follows them waiting for them to drop the cigarette on the floor. Then they try to get 2000 baht fine from them. And everyone pays because they think they are police. As tourists cannot read Thai and cannot see they are BMA people and not police. They pay up.
It is a total scam. But then this is Bangkok. Run by the Democrats and the BMA is Democrat Party run.Would you "pay up" or just walk away? Resist "arrest"? Bargain them down to 500 baht?
Tell them you have no money? Call the police or your hotel to get help?
Wolvenvacht
12-28-13, 09:07
Hi!
I will be for New Years Eve in Bangkok. What are the best places to go for New Years Eve. Is there also party in Nana and Soi Cowboy?
Any special events for new years eve?I always had the impression they had a party every night, but it is rumored that on New Year's Eve, the dancers in the agogo-clubs will go with you to your place and will make love to you the whole night (expecting nothing but a modest tip for their service). ;)
Danieol Brasil
12-28-13, 15:36
I always had the impression they had a party every night, but it is rumored that on New Year's Eve, the dancers in the agogo-clubs will go with you to your place and will make love to you the whole night (expecting nothing but a modest tip for their service). ;)Thank you for your advice.
Member #4387
12-28-13, 15:45
Thanks God we are different. I can maby understand my mongeringstyle and writingstyle can have a provocative effect on a few fellow punters. And I will be the first to admit my mongeringstyle have changed quite a bit over the years where I more often find myself in a more upscale environment than when I got started as a fresh from the farm mongerer 10 years ago. Probably have something to do with me getting a fellow friend from back home positioned in BKK and he has contacts in every aspects of Bangkoks citylife (he has lived here on numerous occations and more or less permanentaly the last 15 years). He used to be a pilot but these days he is working more administrative and educational towards the aviation industry. This is why I have been let into a more thaibased cabincrew environment and it is a nice one I might add with a lot of beauty and sexy women. My business have also gone through the roof the latest years so i am not very pricesensitive(without me destroying any FL market).
We have also a few years back hooked up with a fellow countryman doing big investments in Pattaya building highrised buildings (condos). I admit driving around in his Bentley in the streets of Bangkok sometimes feels a bit strange but sometimes you get wanted attention viewed from a horny guy point of view (me).
Some punters attack me and blaming me to be irrasistable. Reading back in my postings I can not find any statement me claiming I am gods gift to women though. I do get along nicely with women around the world both P4P and regular girls but I am no Brad Pitt. Only a fairly well maintained viking. I do put my pride into well grooming, dressing and behaving nicely (p4p and regular) and I strongly believe in chemistry chemistry and chemistry building. If I meet girls in celeb party at Bangkoks The Continent or in Beergarden (BG) I put my pride in treating them good and probably make the BG girls feel not beeing p4p for a while and through this you get good treatment. I will still continue to alternate between FL's and more regular to upscale regular girls as I find the combination very nice. While thinking about it I find I treat more lowscale BG girls more nice than the hi so ones.
What we the latest years with success have joined is various fashion venues in BKK (this is where my USA girl is met). I can for 2013 enlighten the crowd by telling March 13, Elles fashion week W Hotel (and numerous other locations) , May, The Coninent Hotel (celeb party) , June, Fashion and Jewlery fair (impact arena) and last in November, International Fashionweek (siam paragorn amongst other places). Especially the afterparties are of great success not highly described in my postings. Carshows I have not attended yet.
So this is a recepie for others as well on how to meet the more upscale public in general (focusing big time on girls). I started to get this interest as a few posters inside here told a couple of years back that if you did not speak Thai then you are fucked outside lower Sukhumvit. This is extremely bullshit as people of this kind speaks from good to very good english. You find also a lot of mixed thai crew here and my latter described is of mixed USA / Thai origin. In fact many of them I meet would not indulge themself with foreign people speaking Thai as this will be viewed negatively(dont shoot me i have only been told. Negatively as in they expect you to have been working the girly market for to long. I can allways state i am a newbee if needed, knowing "nam and ting tong" only. Atleast wherever ive been in BKK i have not have any trouble girlwice not speaking Thai..
About the analsuccess of mine it is a overstatement by a few as in I get this everytime. But to answer this I also think this is more common than even I expected. I choose to believe I, by my naughty, kind and sociable approach, get a+ service due to this. Beeing nice and the chemistry chemistry and chemistry i do stress in all aspects of dealing with ladies.
To comfort you negative guys I run a much more down to earth program in phils as I am not that well connected (so far) in Makati(know only some embassy personell and a few highranking policeofficers). Even if I deleted my pinalove account yesterday I am much more into datingsitegirls in this area.
Thong Lo(r)area is a great area in BKK to test ones checkup skills in a more nightclub, fancy pubs area. Hope you got some ideas guys. On the negative side my way is not so effective as going into a MP, GOGO or barfine but i dont find venues like that exciting at all. Actually i find these venues more repulsive so to speak. Much bcs i dont like the setup.. And i have time and enjoy gaming..
Why is it that they put up a sign that tells you that it is forbidden to lilter on the streets of BKK? I believe that it is because they don't want people to throw napkins or cigarrets in the streets. Where I am from we don't litter. Therefor I don't litter when I am in BKK. If people followed the rules there wouldn't be a problem. I agree that it can be hard to find dustbins beside from outside everyother Family Mart and 7 / Elleven but that doesn't give rights to litter. Just my humble opinion here on the "International Sexguide Bangkok Reports Thread" ha haThe sign and the fines are specially made to discourage Indians (among others) whose littering habits are world renowned. Just go to Little India in BKK for confirmation.
After seeing a friend's band play I decided to make a trip up Suk to all the old haunts. The BG Soi 7, Nana parking lot, the street, BKK Beat, Cowboy, and Thermae. Jeez, what an awful excursion. Very few attractive girls, attitudes, and a band at BKK Beat that was just plain awful.
Nostalgic? You bet I am. I miss the days when one could walk into a FL venue or grab a quite attractive gal off the street with little more than one word and off you go. Sexwas always pretty good and the damage was 1k. Very little attitude or effort expended in finding a gal and getting the deed done.
Now, it is difficult to find lookers and when you do, especially in a disco, they want to hang out and party. Not my idea of a good time.
Personally I did not come to Thailand to date or romance P4P gals, I came here to doink them.
I am so glad the oilies exist. They certainly save things.
Back to BKK first time in a few years, so tried my luck at BG a couple of times this week.
Snared a probable 6 first time up, about 30-35, quite good in the sack at ST hotel. 1000ST BBBJ, CFS nice would do again.
Next was mid 20's 7-8 rare for BG these days. 1500ST, not as experienced but good to look at while on the job, only CBJ unfortunately but DFK.
You need to strike quickly when the women ones walk in.
HornyDude353
12-28-13, 19:19
First of thanks for all the advice on these forums, I have finally booked a trip to BKK mid Jan for about 4 days. Based on this forum and previous trips, I'm thinking of hitting up Emanuelles / Amsterdams for day time action along with some other massage places to see what's on offer (I'm constantly horny so don't think I will run out). Evenings I'm thinking doing a night at Soi cowboy, Nana and Patpong separately, hopefully there will be something good each night. I'm manily looking for LT in the evenings, and will try to stay in those specific areas, maybe check out the other areas if none of those hit the spot.
Do you think this sounds like a good rough plan? I'm getting paid the day before I arrive in BKK so money is not an issue.
Also for LT what rate should I not be paying above in those areas, I don't want to mess it up for everyone else. Is 3-4k realistic or should I expect to pay more?
This reads, to my ear, like an episode of Duck Dynasty. If you have a script I can pitch it to some people I know but we need a hook.
Do you wear a cravat?
Thanks God we are different. I can maby understand my mongeringstyle and writingstyle can have a provocative effect on a few fellow punters. And I will be the first to admit my mongeringstyle have changed quite a bit over the years where I more often find myself in a more upscale environment than when I got started as a fresh from the farm mongerer 10 years ago. Probably have something to do with me getting a fellow friend from back home positioned in BKK and he has contacts in every aspects of Bangkoks citylife (he has lived here on numerous occations and more or less permanentaly the last 15 years). He used to be a pilot but these days he is working more administrative and educational towards the aviation industry. This is why I have been let into a more thaibased cabincrew environment and it is a nice one I might add with a lot of beauty and sexy women. My business have also gone through the roof the latest years so I am not very pricesensitive (without me destroying any FL market).
We have also a few years back hooked up with a fellow countryman doing big investments in Pattaya building highrised buildings (condos). I admit driving around in his Bentley in the streets of Bangkok sometimes feels a bit strange but sometimes you get wanted attention viewed from a horny guy point of view (me)..
First of thanks for all the advice on these forums, I have finally booked a trip to BKK mid Jan for about 4 days. Based on this forum and previous trips, I'm thinking of hitting up Emanuelles / Amsterdams for day time action along with some other massage places to see what's on offer (I'm constantly horny so don't think I will run out). Evenings I'm thinking doing a night at Soi cowboy, Nana and Patpong separately, hopefully there will be something good each night. I'm manily looking for LT in the evenings, and will try to stay in those specific areas, maybe check out the other areas if none of those hit the spot.
Do you think this sounds like a good rough plan? I'm getting paid the day before I arrive in BKK so money is not an issue.
Also for LT what rate should I not be paying above in those areas, I don't want to mess it up for everyone else. Is 3-4k realistic or should I expect to pay more?Emannuelle and Amsterdam are soapies or body massage places. Selection is poor during the day. I wouldn't go to these until 5:30 at the very earliest. 7:00PM is better. The oil massage places are open during the day and are your best bet for day action. Since it's your first trip I would recommend Mango or Snow White. They get the best reviews overall for oilies on this website. You should know that oilies are much cheaper than soapies.
If you go to Emanuelle be sure to check out the other soapies nearby. Mirage, Nataree, and Hi-Class are all about a 2 minute walk from Emannuelle. Go to all of them and check out their lineups. Then go back to the place with the girl or girls you like best. Nataree has the most girls when I visited all of them last month. Caesar's is just across the main road from Emanuelle and Poseidon and Copacobana are across the road and a few minutes away by foot. To get there take a taxi to the Emerald Hotel and you'll see the signs for these places. You can also take the MRT subway (cheap, quick, and easy). Using the MRT get off at the Huay Kwang station and walk out exit#3. You'll be right there.
The Bier garden on Soi 7 is another daytime option as are Dr. BJ's places on Soi 7/1.
Somewhere15
12-29-13, 07:11
See my earlier post. They are not Police!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1512077&viewfull=1#post1512077Thanks I didn't see before, sorry.
You are right. What I see is the discriminator effect they only target foreign people.
My Thai girlfriend told me yesterday, like you said they do not have any authority but they pick people who a an easy target.
Here alternative was ask them, when you brought up, to register you on a police station. The fine is the same but the MBA is not willing the official paperwork and a good change that they let you go.
Agree that you should not litter, and I learned my lessons here (honestly you should also not hunt on girls LOL).
Paul Kausch
12-29-13, 07:53
Been busy with the holiday merriment. Sorry it has taken so long to report. Also haven't read any of the Thailand reports since I left on my trip. Wonder what I've missed. I'll find out after I finish all my reports. There is much to tell. I'll try to be organized. Expect many reports over the next few days. To make things easier, I'm going to number each post in the subject line, and at the end of each report write which thread contains the next installment.
Flight landed just before midnight. Had checked a large bag. Was on the taxi leaving the airport in a little less than an hour. Took the expressway. Traffic was minimal, even on lower Sukhumvit. Checked into the Landmark. Was in my room unpacking before 2am. I'm a bit anal and have to get unpacked and situated in my room before I can do anything else.
Unfortunately I starting developing flu symptoms towards the end of the last leg of my flight. I spent the first few days taking it easy in my room. Flu shots and a good immune system generally enable me to recover quickly, but the down time cut into my mongering activities as I had to juggle my work schedule.
The weather was excellent. No rain. One day was very muggy. The next day was unusually mild and dry for Bangkok. I saw little sign of the protests. One day there was a March in front of my hotel that lasted 3 or 4 hours, blocking westbound Sukhumvit. It was peaceful and orderly.
There were noticeably fewer tourists compared to last December. Except for the last weekend of my stay, I arrived on the 4th and departed on the 18th, the Landmark felt empty. I rarely encountered anyone on the elevators. I was staying on the 29th floor and appreciated not having to stop for lower floors.
As in previous trips, the longer I stayed the longer I wanted to stay. Oh my, I do love Bangkok. In two weeks I had no unpleasant and many wonderful experiences.
Next report in Bangkok Hotels Thread.
See my earlier post. They are not Police!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1512077&viewfull=1#post1512077Fact is there is a legit fine for littering. Up to 2000 baht.
What's to stop them from detaining you for hours until the police show up? Things could get even worse than 2000 baht for you.
What is their official job description?
BTW today I saw a large waste bin, for the first time ever, beside their booth on sukhumvit, not far from the soi 3 and soi 4 intersection. Hadn't ever noticed that before. Is it something new?
HornyDude353
12-29-13, 17:51
Emannuelle and Amsterdam are soapies or body massage places. Selection is poor during the day. I wouldn't go to these until 5:30 at the very earliest. 7:00PM is better. The oil massage places are open during the day and are your best bet for day action. Since it's your first trip I would recommend Mango or Snow White. They get the best reviews overall for oilies on this website. You should know that oilies are much cheaper than soapies.
If you go to Emanuelle be sure to check out the other soapies nearby. Mirage, Nataree, and Hi-Class are all about a 2 minute walk from Emannuelle. Go to all of them and check out their lineups. Then go back to the place with the girl or girls you like best. Nataree has the most girls when I visited all of them last month. Caesar's is just across the main road from Emanuelle and Poseidon and Copacobana are across the road and a few minutes away by foot. To get there take a taxi to the Emerald Hotel and you'll see the signs for these places. You can also take the MRT subway (cheap, quick, and easy). Using the MRT get off at the Huay Kwang station and walk out exit#3. You'll be right there.
The Bier garden on Soi 7 is another daytime option as are Dr. BJ's places on Soi 7/1.Thanks mate, I will definitely check out those massage places, I'm going to be by myself in BKK so will most probably end up spending the majority of my time around those places.
Crocodilexp
12-29-13, 22:07
See my earlier post. They are not Police!
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1512077&viewfull=1#post1512077Thesakit (Bangkok Metropolitan Authority personnel) are legally entitled to enforce city ordinances and levy fines, like making sure street vendors follow the rules and people are not littering. Thai street vendors obey them, and so should the foreigners. Of course, if you get a fine, either insist on a proper receipt, or ask to have it reduced.
While the they cannot arrest you, if you make problems, the regular police will come to their assistance. You can try ignoring them and walking away, it worked for some people (in a busy area they'd often just look for an easier target). But do this at your own peril. In case they decide to pursue you and regular police gets involved you'll be in a world of trouble. Some people have done the pretend-not-to-see & walk-away thing with regular police stops as well, and it works occasionally (Thai cops are lazy) , but it's hardly advisable.
Yeah, targeting foreigners is unfair. But is it so difficult not to litter?
The Bier garden on Soi 7 is another daytime option as are Dr. BJ's places on Soi 7/1.Hi Guys, I picked up two nice young (21 and 23) busty (C and D cup) ones from Biergarten the last two days. 1500ST and 2000 all night. Happy New Year! Off to Cebu day after tomorrow.
Hey guys I'm at Nana Hotel Thursday 23rd for 4 days.
Its my second time only to BKK.
If theres any guys that wana meet up, would be great,
Clubs and bars are a little uncomfortable when your alone, (I say a little)
Would be good to know someones watching my back.
BTW I don't mean my back door, I need to be very clear "I don't do the manlove thing".
BTW I'm mozzie 20+years.
BKK (& ISG reporter) Noobie.
I managed to free up some time just for me; so I decided to take the plunge and spend a few days in BKK for the first time. Pattaya seemed too booked up and BKK was a straightforward destination to plan my itinerary.
Staying in the Omni Syncate (Soi 4) got a really big room, partly due to a booking mix up but very happy with the choice. Didn't check the guest friendliness but I'm certain it's NP, it being serviced apartments rather than a hotel.
Started out with the mongering on Sunday evening at Annies. Picked a dark skinned girl called "Sow" (#87) pronounced like the name of a female pig but there was no resemblance apart from that. She was a pretty girl, very friendly and willing and keen to please. Pretty standard stuff, soapy bath with body-to-body then shower off and dry before FS. I licked her up a bit which she seemed to enjoy, good BBBJ then FS where she stayed involved. I was finished after an hour, even though you get up to two hrs for the 2500 Baht.
Annies is a bit run-down, the room was quite tatty but clean. Plenty girls on show but no stunners. Mine stood out cause she was so much darker skinned than the rest.
Repeat? Annies, yes."Sow" #87, maybe. Depends on the selection.
Afterwards (into early morning) , I strolled around the Nana bars. Despite some reports talking of being hassled, esp by ladyboys I didn't have a problem. I just wandered past and didn't engage with them. If I'm grabbed I keep moving and slowly disengage.
Enjoyed Angelwitch and Spankys. Full nude on show in both, they must have some strange time-limits on nudity, since they get dressed and undressed on a regular basis. Bought a lady drink for one of the girls in Spankys but she immediately ran off to dance (said she'd come back and didn't). Noobie error. I wasn't that bothered. I thought the shows in Spankies were a bit better than AWs.
Day 2
Morning, I tried out an oil massage in OKD Massage. It's a small door on the left if you go South on Soi 4 from Nana Plaza. Girls sit on the narrow doorstep in Thai dress, there's another similar one called Aspari (?) further down, although I didn't try that one.
Got a girl called "Porn", yes really and that was how she spelt it. I didn't go in fixed with a thought of sex. Mainly wanted a good massage, however, the inevitable happened after the top of my legs was massaged and show offered BBBJ / HJ. She wanted 3k, settled on 2k, which seemed pricey but what the hell. She was very competent with hand and mouth, she stripped off and I could touch her up anywhere. She was a fairly chunky and very smiley girl, lots of chuckling.
Showered off and got dressed. All-in-all a very pleasant experience.
Repeat? OKD, yes. Porn, maybe.
For the evening I had in mind to try Dr BJ's but first I looked around the bars in Cowboy. Baccara was uber-busy with Jap tourists, girls were good looking, this is the one where the girls dance on a see through floor above you. Beer was pricey, you had to buy one just to get in. Experience was OK but I moved on to look at others. Stuck my head in a few (Tilac, Spicey Girls, Suzie Wong) but wasn't so impressed cf Nanas, but then I found Dollshouse. Plenty fully naked girls on stage (the usual occasional dressing / undressing) some very nice looking. It would be my bar recommendation for Cowboys. But after my (very limited) experience Nana's has more to offer currently. Since I had a plan to visit dr BJ I didn't hang around tool long.
Dr BJ's (just google dr BJ Bangkok) is north of Sukhumvit at the back of Soi 7. They have 2 places, there is also a Dr BJ place which seems to specialise in nuren gel, but I settled for the BJ place on the right.
They offer "Nurses" and "Consultants".700/1000 for BJ or 1400/2000 for FS for 1 hr. A VIP package get's you a proper room and 2 hrs. I went for girl "B" based on Mamasan's recommendation. (I'm done in an hour anyway).
Small clean but slightly tatty room room with a business chair for the BJ. I have to say girl B was great! Licking well below the nut sack and all around. She was a very enthusiastic fuck, and genuinely seemed to enjoy it. (I know they are great actos) , her toungue was practically down my throat. She gave me a gentle 15 min to go warning and finished me off with BBBJ. She got a 500 tip for her effforts.
Repeat? Dr BJ, yes. But maybe the VIP package next time. Having a chair but no bed just makes things awkward (if different). Girl B (Her name is Lek) absofuckinglutely.
Now relaxing for a couple of hrs before the NY parties.
Up to now I'm very happy with the choice to come to BKK.
Cheers,
B
Thanks I didn't see before, sorry.
You are right. What I see is the discriminator effect they only target foreign people.
My Thai girlfriend told me yesterday, like you said they do not have any authority but they pick people who a an easy target.
Here alternative was ask them, when you brought up, to register you on a police station. The fine is the same but the MBA is not willing the official paperwork and a good change that they let you go.
Agree that you should not litter, and I learned my lessons here (honestly you should also not hunt on girls LOL).Here is the Bangkok Post write up on the scam :
http://www.aladdin.st/holiday11/cigpolice.htm
As you say, prostitution is also illegal in Thailand, just like littering. And if people never littered then it would put hundreds of road sweepers and cleaners out of work.
As you say you can tell them, should you get caught, that you want to go to the Police station to pay the fine as they are not Police and you are unsure if they are real or not.
They will not want to take you to the Police station as the Police would keep the 2000 baht.
This is why they want to fine you on the spot. The 2000 baht goes into the Kitty and then its all split later amongst all the BMA cronies. Into their pockets. Its a scam, its corruption and its from the Democrats (Suthep and co).
So if you ever get caught just say you will not pay cash to them, you want to go to a Police station and pay the fine to the Police and have a receipt saying you paid 2000 baht to whatever their name is and their number.
They are not doing it to keep the streets clean, they are doing it to make money. And they do not want to waste time on paperwork at a Police station if the money is not going direct into their pocket.
Thesakit (Bangkok Metropolitan Authority personnel) are legally entitled to enforce city ordinances and levy fines, like making sure street vendors follow the rules and people are not littering. Thai street vendors obey them, and so should the foreigners. Of course, if you get a fine, either insist on a proper receipt, or ask to have it reduced.
While the they cannot arrest you, if you make problems, the regular police will come to their assistance. You can try ignoring them and walking away, it worked for some people (in a busy area they'd often just look for an easier target). But do this at your own peril. In case they decide to pursue you and regular police gets involved you'll be in a world of trouble. Some people have done the pretend-not-to-see & walk-away thing with regular police stops as well, and it works occasionally (Thai cops are lazy) , but it's hardly advisable.
Yeah, targeting foreigners is unfair. But is it so difficult not to litter?Another prominent scam in Thailand is Tollway receipts.
Always ask your taxi driver to get them.
Thailand has constantly tried to install an electronic system for tollway receipts. But anyone who tries to do it then the computers get smashed up. As they prefer the "count the paper receipts" system. As the money paid to the tollway operator is based purely on the paper receipts handed out.
So each time a driver does not get a receipt this money builds into a massive daily kitty which is siphoned off and split between the very rich people who run Bangkok. And the toll both operators get a little of it to for smashing the computers up and keeping the paper system in place.
Think of the money these people get. Every tollway payment where no receipt is given out. This money goes straight into the corrupt Bangkok elites pocket.
There are many scams in Bangkok, which is why you have protestors on the streets now trying to protect the corrupt system of the elite and keep themselves in control. Not allow the government to control Bangkok.
One of the reasons Thaksin has enemies in Bangkok is he got army cadets to sit and count the traffic at each tollway booth and cross reference this to the payments received. He did many things to root out corruption which really upset the Bangkok elites. Which is why they had a coup to kick him out and come up with some false allegations against him to make him "guilty". He was not totally innocent but he was a massive threat to the Bangkok elite.
Thailand is the land of scams. Always remember that.
Western787
12-31-13, 22:50
New Years Eve, i was in Rainbow 1 (1st floor Nana) and got there at 9; 30 and stayed 2 hours and the place was loaded with stunners. Many getting barfined but lots of hotties everywhere all 2 hours so mamasans were doing the hip gyration thing pointing at the dancers while goading customers to barfine. Last time I was in there was a very poor selection, maybe New Years Eve had the full crew in so more hotties. IMHO one third were stunner level min which is pretty much Rainbow 4 levels. (saw one very hot girl with no number, perhaps a Coyote? anyone know?) and aother dancer #47 ended up with a Japanese customer, smoking hot brunette. Also there is very hot (presumably Issan as she is very dark) who is a close to a 10 level. and was barfined out by this older Farrang she pushing her (hot) ass into him at the stage side for an an hour on and off.. Then I went to Rainbow 3 (2nd floor Nana) and perhaps 6 or so very hot to stunner level but many were apparently already barfined out . Crazy New Years celebration going on in there for the hour I was there. Lot of fun actually. Then went to Rainbow 4 and no doubt half to two thirds of the inventory was missing so must have barfined out, but that smoking hot slender redhead (probably back from early barfine (s) was in , so i presume was available. At one point they had all the remaining dancers (20 perhaps) get dressed in street clothes so they would be instantly ready to barfine, and they all got up to dance (Thai music playing) on the stage and also Japanese customers dancing on the stage and the very large waitress, pretty funny stuff. Aside from the redhead, lots of other hotties, and as in all 3 clubs many begging to be selected for barfine. In R3 there was this hot model type (slender with flip hair style, pouty lips, hot in a model way, but bitchy I would say) kind of all over a Japanese guy, practically making love at his table, then I guess he didn't barfine her so she was later with a middle age Farang hanging all over him.
BKK (& ISG reporter) Noobie.
I managed to free up some time just for me; so I decided to take the plunge and spend a few days in BKK for the first time. Pattaya seemed too booked up and BKK was a straightforward destination to plan my itinerary.
Morning, I tried out an oil massage in OKD Massage. It's a small door on the left if you go South on Soi 4 from Nana Plaza. Girls sit on the narrow doorstep in Thai dress, there's another similar one called Aspari (?) further down, although I didn't try that one.
Up to now I'm very happy with the choice to come to BKK.
Cheers,
BApsara massage has quite some ladyboys on duty, so, folks, be aware in case you do not partake that choice.
In a recent post I talked about a visit to a Soi Cowboy bar about 10 days ago, where I got great service at one bar from quite good looking girls, which seemed like the norm there.
Last night I returned, and it turned out that bar was not Rawhide at all (I actually went in there around 8:30 and had a beer, the lineup was indeed weak, I sat there and eventually figured out that the layout of the place was similar but different. I had to go from bar to bar to eventually find out that it was Cowboy 2. And that place is like I described before. Special attention often paid to the customer. The girl I had last time wasn't in last night, nor was my plan B #69, so I didn't sit with anyone. But I could see other guys being made quite happy as they drank their beers. The dancing there is a step up from most places, and the girls would score as 4 out of 5 overall.
I also stopped in at a few more, including Dundee (no Crocodile in the title actually). And saw the least motivated bar girl I have ever seen. She stood still on stage with her arms folded. A Japanese guy who was enjoying the show regardless playfully egged her in to start dancing. She just looked back at him with a serious face and nodded No.
Earlier I spotted what seemed to be a cute girl or 2 at Afterskool. Of course that one is a diddle and BJ bar. Looked in again just before 1 to see the place empty of girls. Ugh. I wouldn't think that's the kind of bar where all the girls get barfined.
I was at the nana car park at near 2 am and noticed something. Quite a few of the girls who stand there around that time are deaf mutes. Especially the ones at the far end closer to Sukhumvit.
Started out with the mongering on Sunday evening at Annies. Picked a dark skinned girl called "Sow" (#87) pronounced like the name of a female pig but there was no resemblance apart from that.
Got a girl called "Porn", yes really and that was how she spelt it. I didn't go in fixed with a thought of sex.
BDon't get Thai Names confused with English words. Sow is better spelled "Saao" and means 'young girl'.
Porn is better spelled "Paawn" which can have a slightly different pronunciation (mouth open wider) and means something like "blessings", and is a very common Thai nick name. A common syllable in proper names too.
There is a Thai dish called "Fuk Soup" but its not rude at all."Prick" means chili. So you can see that when hearing Thai words, you should not think of English words that sound similar unless that is the only way you will remember them. Nothing rude about "Bangkok" either.
Don't get Thai Names confused with English words. Sow is better spelled "Saao" and means 'young girl'.
Porn is better spelled "Paawn" which can have a slightly different pronunciation (mouth open wider) and means something like "blessings", and is a very common Thai nick name. A common syllable in proper names too.
There is a Thai dish called "Fuk Soup" but its not rude at all."Prick" means chili. So you can see that when hearing Thai words, you should not think of English words that sound similar unless that is the only way you will remember them. Nothing rude about "Bangkok" either.Some more common Thai words are Phuket, boom & poo. Just off the top of my head.
What's your analysis on those.
For the general thread, of course.
Wolvenvacht
01-02-14, 20:01
Don't get Thai Names confused with English words. (snip) Nothing rude about "Bangkok" either.Doesn't Bangkok mean "Mango Garden"? It is not rude, but I don't think about the fruit when I hear it. ;)
Doesn't Bangkok mean "Mango Garden"? It is not rude, but I don't think about the fruit when I hear it. ;)"Today, the city is known in Thai as Krung Thep Maha Nakhon. Its full ceremonial name, which came into use during the reign of King Mongkut, reads as follows:[b][6]
Krungthepmahanakhon Amonrattanakosin Mahintharayutthaya Mahadilokphop Noppharatratchathaniburirom Udomratchaniwetmahasathan Amonphimanawatansathit Sakkathattiyawitsanukamprasit.
The name, composed of Pali and Sanskrit root words, translates as:
City of angels, great city of immortals, magnificent city of the nine gems, seat of the king, city of royal palaces, home of gods incarnate, erected by Visvakarman at Indra's behest. [13]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangkok
Eddie Munster
01-03-14, 05:22
First time trip to BKK coming up Jan 17. I'm staying for a month, living and working there over the net. Hope to experience lots of the great times I've read about on the forum. Thanks to all for your excellent reports. I'm also juggling about 6 different ladies from Thai Love Links, a few of which are quite cute. Any tips on handling multiple non-pros? Is it a huge mistake?
Don't get Thai Names confused with English words. Sow is better spelled "Saao" and means 'young girl'.
Porn is better spelled "Paawn" which can have a slightly different pronunciation (mouth open wider) and means something like "blessings", and is a very common Thai nick name. A common syllable in proper names too.
There is a Thai dish called "Fuk Soup" but its not rude at all."Prick" means chili. So you can see that when hearing Thai words, you should not think of English words that sound similar unless that is the only way you will remember them. Nothing rude about "Bangkok" either.It goes the other way, too: I was looking up a Thai word in the dictionary and saw my name a few entries below. I was hoping it meant,"Handsome, witty, great lay." No, it means, uh. Well. "vagina"
My manliness is in tatters. I think I'll go buy some plush toys to snuggle with.
AmeriMan14
01-03-14, 19:32
Guys,
Apologies in advance if this is not the proper forum for posting this. I just discovered this site and haven't found specific details about what I'm looking for from searching.
What I would like to know if there are any massage places in Don Mueang airport that might be offering some extra services? I will have two upcoming layovers of about 4 and 6 hours each. I read on another site that there previously were a couple of places in the terminal, but cannot confirm if they still exist.
Thanks in advance,
A. M.
Wolvenvacht
01-03-14, 20:25
My manliness is in tatters. I think I'll go buy some plush toys to snuggle with.You can rent those plush cuddly toys in Bangkok by the hour or by the night. ;)
And they are good in restoring your manliness. But it can do no harm to apply for a name-change.
Paul Kausch
01-06-14, 17:49
paul, the military is divided. they also know if there is a coup the ne and n will have real problems with it, and it could lead to real conflict.
the majority of the population lives in the ne. the cat is out of the bag and they will not allow a non-representative gov.
the dems have not won an election since '92. they have the support in bkk and the south, but that will not win them an election.
perhaps the only solution at this point is decentralization.
i lived through the red shirt ordeal and was never really concerned. this has me a bit jumpy. first time in 14 years for that.
do not discuss this subject with any thai. you could get into serious hot water, and if you say the wrong things you could end up in jail as thailand has very strict laws and anything to do with the monarchy is strictly taboo for farangs to talk about. there is no basic freedom of speech in thailand with regards to certain items.
i agree with goatscrot i have been through the last 3 coups and all the previous trouble but this has the likelihood of being the worst we have yet seen.thanks for the candid opinions and good information. wise advice to stay completely away from local politics. i hope violence can be avoided and everyone can stay safe.
More talk about hookers and less about elephant penis. Let's stay the course guysTry JiuWan's posts in the VN section.
With LOS imploding that will be the new P4P heaven, remiscient of Siam 30 years ago.
I went into crazy house last night just after 11 pm. The last time I was there was about September last year and I have to say the talent on offer was significantly better. They still have the robed and de-robed dance shifts but IMO the nude dancers were noticeably hotter. Of the 12-15 girls doing the nude stint I honestly could not pick out one that was not worthy of a BF. There was one girl who had a sizable C scar but was so well put together in all other departments I would not hesitate to BF her as well.
I would strongly suggest to anyone who has not been there to check it out. Needless to say the place was packed with punters. The place must be turning over some serious coin on a weekly basis. Big salute to whoever does their recruitment they are doing a sterling job.
Regards,
BJ
Of the 12-15 girls doing the nude stint I honestly could not pick out one that was not worthy of a BF. There JThe thing here that differentiates this place is nowhere is the Isaan. Local recruitment, and from places west and south. And Bangkok. They want the barfine 700 and girls want nothing less than 3k. In that sense, no different from any other Cowboy go-go. Anyone long time in Bangkok, ought to be able to easily find girls this quality all on their own, if not then can go to crazy girl place if you want short time non-Isaan princess.
Sorry guys to ask this question here, but I am sure it had been answered, just that I am short on time, and did not read past too many pages.
I am looking for massage parlors with real massage, not need to have happy ending or hanky panky. Can anyone recomend? I also do not mind if the said massage is in one of the massage parlors we like to go, as long as the massage is good. I am in the sukuhmvit area, anywhere around here is good.
Thanks.
Paul Kausch
01-09-14, 06:25
Sorry guys to ask this question here, but I am sure it had been answered, just that I am short on time, and did not read past too many pages.
I am looking for massage parlors with real massage, not need to have happy ending or hanky panky. Can anyone recomend? I also do not mind if the said massage is in one of the massage parlors we like to go, as long as the massage is good. I am in the sukuhmvit area, anywhere around here is good.
Thanks.There's a good real massage shop on Soi 8, it's on the right not too far down. For the life of me, can't remember the name. It's before you get to Adelphi Suites. Also, I got a good massage from #20 at Annie's, but unless you want the sex on the side you'll be overpaying for just a massage.
Beer Monger
01-09-14, 06:35
There's a good real massage shop on Soi 8, it's on the right not too far down. For the life of me, can't remember the name. It's before you get to Adelphi Suites. Also, I got a good massage from #20 at Annie's, but unless you want the sex on the side you'll be overpaying for just a massage.That should be Spring Garden according to my Google Street View right? I'm staying at Adelphi next week and will check it out. Or Tong Manhattan barber?
Sorry guys to ask this question here, but I am sure it had been answered, just that I am short on time, and did not read past too many pages.
I am looking for massage parlors with real massage, not need to have happy ending or hanky panky. Can anyone recomend? I also do not mind if the said massage is in one of the massage parlors we like to go, as long as the massage is good. I am in the sukuhmvit area, anywhere around here is good.
Thanks.1. There are 2 places in the court across the street from Foodland market.
2. At the new Nana Plaza shopping mall, the second massage place on the right coming off the elevator on the 4th floor.
Harry Dude
01-09-14, 07:52
That should be Spring Garden according to my Google Street View right? I'm staying at Adelphi next week and will check it out. Or Tong Manhattan barber?Well. Tong Manhattan Barber is a real barbershop that offers haircuts as well as massage. It was weird having sex with the massage chick while the owner of the place was giving a haircut to an elderly gentleman about 1 meter (3 feet) away with just a curtain separating us. I think I managed to keep things quiet while the girl was rimming and while she was giving a nice BBBJ, but I may have made a little bit noise while fucking her in various positions. Strange.
SirWilliam4
01-09-14, 08:30
Sorry guys to ask this question here, but I am sure it had been answered, just that I am short on time, and did not read past too many pages.
I am looking for massage parlors with real massage, not need to have happy ending or hanky panky. Can anyone recomend? I also do not mind if the said massage is in one of the massage parlors we like to go, as long as the massage is good. I am in the sukuhmvit area, anywhere around here is good.
Thanks.Try Foot Joy on Sukhumvit, Soi 8. Less than 5 minutes from Nana BMY. Just about 25 meters from Sukhumvit Road. Excellent foot, Thai, and oil massages given by experienced women.
SW4
Paul Kausch
01-09-14, 08:32
That should be Spring Garden according to my Google Street View right? I'm staying at Adelphi next week and will check it out. Or Tong Manhattan barber?Took a look with Google Street View. It's Baan Dalah right next to Coffee @ 8 & Restaurant. Start at the beginning of Soi 8 and "walk" looking to your right. It's not far from the beginning of the soi.
Does anyone remember a web page called Bangkok Rules? It has been gone for maybe 10 years or longer. But the 'rules' were really great, anyone remember them?
Hi Giotto,
I am glad to see you alive and still kicking!
As always, you have manged to summarize the upcoming snafu perfectly, thank you.
I wonder if you could look into your crystal ball once more and give us (me!) your guess (no guarantee!) for the time beyond the 13th.
My personal problem is as follows:
I am due to arrive in BKK on Jan. 23.
Should things turn really bad, my flight will either be canceled or diverted, or else I'll hop on another flight without even leaving Suvarnabhumi and get out fast. That should not be a problem.
Since you chose to desert and leave us homeless (I don't fancy the virgin-white entourage of the new LL) , back in October and by pure chance, I happened to book Citadines23 at soi 23 of all places!
I can still cancel till Jan. 19 and find another place farther down Suk, which is what I probably will do anyway.
Could you make a guess what will happen after the 13th or at least sketch out the likely scenarios?
Danke I'm Voraus.
DS
well, this is my first trip to bkk. before i started my trip, i've asked several senior member about the scene, so i got some understanding. this report will consist of 2 parts:
1) dr. bj fr.
2) various other tourist stuff.
before i arrive, to bkk, i chatted a few girls on aff, a few agree to meet, but 1 dated me for this evening at terminal 21.
i arrive at amora neoluxe around 6, so got out about 7. got to terminal 21 by walking and didn't find the mall too interesting. alas, my aff girl told me she won't finish her work until 8pm (network engineer) and probably can't make it because she live somewhere i can pronounce, that would take her 1. 5 hrs to get to sukhumvit area. told me to postpone our date to the next day.
my take on it, i am in bkk, sukhumvit area, the worst situation would be which establishment to choose.
1) dr. bj fr.
so i decided to go to dr. bj for a fast session and maybe later at night i can get to other places, i was planning eden.
went in, there were a lot of girls, unfortunately, the selection was not to my taste. the photos on the website are a little "reduced".
anyway, i decided that i need to try this at least once and no need to come back. picked my provider and up we went.
upstairs is much more worn down than the clean look at the entrance. in to my cubicle with a leather / vinyl couch. was asked to strip pants, went on a basin similar to the barbershop that used to wash hair, but this one is modified to wash my dick.
to the couch, some licking, and started the bbbj.
2 things i was not expecting. firstly, the girl does not strip, she was blowing me with her full uniform on. well, i didn't ask her to strip tho. secondly, she gave total deep throats, almost every stroke had covered my whole shaft. being asian with above average size (condom, min is 54, fit me best is 56) , i was amazed she could keep up with deep throating all the way for so long. then i cummed. wash, talk a little, put pants back on, go down, pay 1000b, then out i went.
total pse, but i probably won't be back for the selection that i had. (more on next fr)
2) other stuff.
amora neoluxe.
i stayed in this hotel because agoda was offering 50% discount, and it looked nice on website and it is on sukhumvit road.
the reason i booked this hotel is because i was expecting company (non-wg) and hoping to be more discreet.
i would recommend anyone to stay in this hotel, but the internet is painfully slow. which is why i got a 3g prepaid plan.
ps: i walked by sukhumvit suites that some recommended here. holy crap, the location is really superb, right below the bts! and near all action. never been in there though.
3g pre-paid plan.
hotel reception suggested me to get my sim at 7-11. the cashier does not speak much english nor understand the 3g plans. long story short. got a true number for 299b, found rep at true store in terminal to explain to me (after countless attempts at reading the very limited english manual). reloaded / top-up another 400b. so i got 500mb at 42mbps for 30 days, with some credit left for phone calls. after the 500mb, the speed will be limited to 512kbps. will still be able to use 3g, just slower.
i urge everyone with a smartphone to get 3g in a foreign city. my co-workers thought i came to bkk a lot as i was bringing them to all sort of places with the bts. although this is my first trip to bkk in 15 yrs.
dinner.
got stood up by date, didn't find anything i like to eat in terminal 21. recalled there was a street stall with a lot of people. walk back, i think it is around soi 20-30. a noodle stall with tables at the street side. the noodles were fantastic (i am cantonese and from malaysia, i know my noodles). ordered 2 bowls, finished, paid 100b and happy.
went back to hotel. found out a lot of mp like eden, annie's and etc closes at midnight. i got phone calls to make, and when i finished it was past midnight. was thinking to rest a while on the bed, then maybe go check out the bars and street walkers, although i am not a fan of them. but long flights + only slept for 1 hr the night before, i dozed off on the bed. woke up in the morning.
will be continued.
I can still cancel till Jan. 19 and find another place farther down Suk, which is what I probably will do anyway.
Could you make a guess what will happen after the 13th or at least sketch out the likely scenarios?
Danke I'm Voraus.
DSDon't you live in patts?
Well, this is my first trip to BKK. Before I started my trip, I've asked several senior member about the scene, so I got some understanding. This report will consist of 2 parts:
1) Dr. BJ FR.
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Went back to hotel. Found out a lot of MP like Eden, Annie's and etc closes at midnight. I got phone calls to make, and when I finished it was past midnight. Was thinking to rest a while on the bed, then maybe go check out the bars and street walkers, although I am not a fan of them. But long flights + only slept for 1 hr the night before, I dozed off on the bed. Woke up in the morning.
Will be continued.By starting with Dr BJ and Eden you are definitely starting at the lower end, class wise. I don't think Eden is worth a visit any more and I would only use Dr BJ if on a very tight time limit myself. Each to their own though. However I think you agreed the girls were not that special looking.
MPs close at midnight but still plenty of bars open after that. At that time of day I would use Cowboy bars normally. I prefer Crazy House, Long Gun, Suzie Wong, Doll House (just one or two girls I like) , but being Asian you might like the more white skinned highly modified dolls at Shark or Baccara (not my taste. Liking a more natural look). Others prefer Nana Plaza.
P.S. My taste is slim models with small face, cute nose, and stunning asses. I little difficult to find many of these with truly super ass but Crazy House has a few.
I went into crazy house last night just after 11 pm. The last time I was there was about September last year and I have to say the talent on offer was significantly better. They still have the robed and de-robed dance shifts but IMO the nude dancers were noticeably hotter. Of the 12-15 girls doing the nude stint I honestly could not pick out one that was not worthy of a BF. There was one girl who had a sizable C scar but was so well put together in all other departments I would not hesitate to BF her as well.
I would strongly suggest to anyone who has not been there to check it out. Needless to say the place was packed with punters. The place must be turning over some serious coin on a weekly basis. Big salute to whoever does their recruitment they are doing a sterling job.
Regards,
BJHave to agree. If you like watching natural looking totally nude hot girls dancing, this is the place. Of the nude dancing places, this place has the most quality girls (not much fake stuff too). Some girls maybe trying for a high ST price, but not all. They have better girls simply because the girls' monthly salaries are a little higher than the other bars. Simple method to get good lookers. They don't look so bored as girls in Baccara either.
Trashcanman77
01-11-14, 09:00
Giotto,
Your posts are absolutely outstanding!
One would not expect to find those in a sex tourist forum.
Thanks!
Damn, elections being held Sunday 2nd February? My flight lands BKK that morning. I'm guessing all bars will be closed, no alcohol to be sold for 3 days? Massage shops closed?
What's the real deal; what is shut down during general elections?
Damn, elections being held Sunday 2nd February? My flight lands BKK that morning. I'm guessing all bars will be closed, no alcohol to be sold for 3 days? Massage shops closed?
What's the real deal; what is shut down during general elections?I don't think MPs likely to close. Remember Annies never closes, as far as I know.
I might be worse off as my flight leaves 2nd Feb hopefully.
Its always wise to collect phone numbers of your favourite girls just in case.
For fans of tall skinny Bo at Suzie Wong, I just was told she is back at the bar after could not make enough money with alternate employ. Always good for double lesbian / bi trouble as she is really into girls as well as guys (no joke).
Today had a massage. The girl said she is 21. I asked if she had a baby. Yes she said. 7 years old almost 8. Yes, she had a baby at age 13. So then I ask what age she started having sex. She says her mother had a German BF and plenty of porn in the house. At age of 6 she and a young boy watched the porn and then played mummy and daddy trying to fuck. Hard to imagine how successful they would be at age 6. However probably was fucking well before she was capable of getting pregnant and at that age knew nothing about birth control. X movies don't cover that. Despite all this experience, she was just okay Not skilled at all. Said she doesn't get any Farang customers (all Japanese, Korean etc.).
Anybody have an update how the renovations at SOL are coming along?
I asked this a few pages back and nobody chimed back.
Hey everyone,
New user here, but been reading the Thailand posts for a few months. Going to BKK for about a month in March to April. I know no-on can tell the future, but can anyone give any thought how the BKK + protests / shutdown thing might be around then?
My concerns are: BTS, MRT, Nana area, Soi cowboy, Sukhumvit, traffic in general like hopping into a taxi anywhere at anytime. Also will mongering at night not be a big deal because the protests be during the day? Would still like to go out during the day, but understand the warning areas: Victory monument, Asok, Silom, etc.
I been to BKK a few times + enjoy the atmosphere all around.
NeverJerkOff
01-12-14, 16:59
So, when did this become the USA Tax Forum? How about we get back on track?
SW4Sure sport. The activities tonight included brutally butt fucking a university girl's virgin ass and making her say "I love you" as I do it. But if you are looking for a mongering location never mentioned on ISG take a taxi along sukhumvit 71 at night.
Last night in Cowboy, some of the girls did not seem to know if their bars would be open tonight or not. Demonstration in Aoske at Sukhumvit corner could have an effect. Already people were arriving and setting up at 1AM last night.
I took Bo (also Knot) from Suzie Wong and gave Bo her first dick in about a year she claimed. She has been spending time up NE and her GF there does not know that she works the bar, licks other girls pussies, and takes dick too.
Would be nice IMHO if all the totally non-monger related posts would be in the general thread. I sort of thought that was what it was for. Maybe this thread should be renamed to "Bangkok Mongering". Alternatively we could have a Bangkok non-mongering thread.
Since Bo at Suzie Wong has a GF and is a confirmed Bi-sexual, I decided to find out a few things.
Bo showed me pics of her GF. Although her GF is a Tom, was still quite pretty, but shortish hair. Bo likes pretty girls not just butch ones.
Do lesbians Trib (bounce their pussies together)? Bo confirmed my suspicion that tribbing is somewhat bullshit and just for X movies. She is much more into DATY and 69.
How about strap-ons? Bo said she could receive it gently but much prefers a real cock. She would not like to wear the strap-on as would not give her any feeling / benefit. Her GF would not like to receive it as would be bad "form", as though indicating the GF really preferred to have cock rather than be a real tom. Bo's GF doesn't know Bo is working in the bar and taking cock too, and doing lesbian shows. If knew this would cause jealousy problems. So strap-ons are pretty much bullshit in Bo's opinion. A dildo vibrator would be okay for Bo but a real Tom would not use a dildo.
Does Bo play with her GF in the shower? Apparently although Bo is not shy, her GF is so they never take a shower together. Funny. She does make nice soapy showering games with me.
So the Bo style of lesbian play is pretty much kissing, touching, fingering, DATY, and 69 only. She liked my extended DATY a lot and seemed to cum eventually after a progressive gradual build up. Doesn't mind dick too but definitely prefers slow action rather than pounding. Hardly surprising.
For private lesbian / bi show action, ask Bo which girls she has the hots for. Bo is a tall slim girl with good waist to thigh ratio nice ass but virtually but flat chested. Very pleasant face too.
Since Bo at Suzie Wong has a GF and is a confirmed Bi-sexual, I decided to find out a few things.
Bo showed me pics of her GF. Although her GF is a Tom, was still quite pretty, but shortish hair. Bo likes pretty girls not just butch ones.
Do lesbians Trib (bounce their pussies together)? Bo confirmed my suspicion that tribbing is somewhat bullshit and just for X movies. She is much more into DATY and 69.
How about strap-ons? Bo said she could receive it gently but much prefers a real cock. She would not like to wear the strap-on as would not give her any feeling / benefit. Her GF would not like to receive it as would be bad "form", as though indicating the GF really preferred to have cock rather than be a real tom. Bo's GF doesn't know Bo is working in the bar and taking cock too, and doing lesbian shows. If knew this would cause jealousy problems. So strap-ons are pretty much bullshit in Bo's opinion. A dildo vibrator would be okay for Bo but a real Tom would not use a dildo.
Does Bo play with her GF in the shower? Apparently although Bo is not shy, her GF is so they never take a shower together. Funny. She does make nice soapy showering games with me.
So the Bo style of lesbian play is pretty much kissing, touching, fingering, DATY, and 69 only. She liked my extended DATY a lot and seemed to cum eventually after a progressive gradual build up. Doesn't mind dick too but definitely prefers slow action rather than pounding. Hardly surprising.
For private lesbian / bi show action, ask Bo which girls she has the hots for. Bo is a tall slim girl with good waist to thigh ratio nice ass but virtually but flat chested. Very pleasant face too.Splendid stuff, more what I'm here to read.
I was part of a threesome in Santiago a few weeks ago where the two girls "tribbed" and then faked orgasm IMO.
So now I know.
I was part of a threesome in Santiago a few weeks ago where the two girls "tribbed" and then faked orgasm IMO.I think it would be very difficult to orgasm that way. Bo said "it would not work well, so girls generally don't do it" like its a waste of time. A tongue can be a highly skilled and highly targeted instrument for sexual pleasure and therefore far better. Fingers can also work far better. I suppose tribbing could be similar to flat of the hand pussy pounding (but not as good) and Bo does not seem to be into using flat of hand when she is doing other girls. A bit of fingering mainly targeted at the clit but mouth lips and tongue seems preferred. She (and most girls) does like G-spot fingering concurrent with clit licking / sucking / flicking. I am liking very much the same stuff as Bo likes.
Getting a two girl BBBJ is superb. Typically, one licks the balls while other does the shaft. Its heaven IMHO.
Hi guys,
My fantasy is to have a girl sucking my dick under the apron while getting a haircut. Has anyone ever done it or can recommend a place? Also, if the girl cutting the hairs would be naked with only high heel shoes. That would be great. Any such place in Bangkok?
Since Bo at Suzie Wong has a GF and is a confirmed Bi-sexual, I decided to find out a few things. Bo's GF doesn't know Bo is working in the bar and taking cock too, and doing lesbian shows. If knew this would cause jealousy problems. So strap-ons are pretty much bullshit in Bo's opinion. A dildo vibrator would be okay for Bo but a real Tom would not use a dildo.Great deal of information and happy we have sorted the IRS issues too!
Interesting to see that her GF does not know she works in a bar, does lesbian shows and takes cocks for a job!
What does she believe she does? I am quite curious as working in a bar has also unusual working hours for a normal job (ok, you can work at 7/11 during same opening window of a go-go. I know, but still.)
My name here describes me much better than those labels.Indeed it does as it appears the modern day equivalent to American kids wearing Beatles haircuts in the 1960's.
Interesting to see that her GF does not know she works in a bar, does lesbian shows and takes cocks for a job!
What does she believe she does? I am quite curious as working in a bar has also unusual working hours for a normal job (ok, you can work at 7/11 during same opening window of a go-go. I know, but still.) Yes its not just us customers cheating on wives / GFs etc.
Apparently GF is up country (not in Bangkok. Maybe Nong Khai) and thinks Bo has some regular service job in Bangkok like waitress or Hotel staff, I forget which now. Bo said that GF was asking about getting a similar job in Bangkok too, so that would be very awkward. Bo shares a room in Ratchada with other bargirls too. Bo was missing from bar for a year and before that only seemed to work the bar in patches and disappear for periods. I guess room sharing bargirls come and go. I always thought it was strange how she never picked up a BF and left the bar scene for good since several years.
Some working girls' parents are knowing what they do, but accept it, as they understand that the money just has to be obtained to support the child etc. Other girls are telling their families they do something else, but one would suspect that many parents have decided that they just don't want to know and avoid awkward questions.
Yes its not just us customers cheating on wives / GFs etc.Eh eh sounds funny, If she lives upcountry the story can be sutastaimed till the minute something happens. As in Every "cheating"story. I recall I picked up a girl at Livingstone sports bar and she said she could not stay long time as her family knew she was a cashier in a bar so at 3am she had to leave (and if the story was true. 3am was already quite stretched as a working time for a bar cashier). Something is the family, something else is the GF, more "attentive" in general and on principle.
You certainly got a good insight and thanks for sharing this here.
Hi guys,
I know the Shutdown has just started and nobody, not even Giotto with his Crystal Balls can predict how it will develop, but given the current situation (7 key intersections, including Asok blocked etc.)
-How can one get from Suvarnahumi (BKK) and Don Mueng (DMK) to lower Sukhumvit, Soi 23 and higher, by taxi?
-Is the Airport Link an option for BKK, getting off somewhere near Sukhumvit 71 or Ekkamai (I don't know what the stations are called) and taking a taxi from there?
Thanks for your info.
DS
Wolvenvacht
01-13-14, 21:20
Hi guys,
I know the Shutdown has just started and nobody, not even Giotto with his Crystal Balls can predict how it will develop, but given the current situation (7 key intersections, including Asok blocked etc.) :
-How can one get from Suvarnahumi (BKK) and Don Mueng (DMK) to lower Sukhumvit, Soi 23 and higher, by taxi?
-Is the Airport Link an option for BKK, getting off somewhere near Sukhumvit 71 or Ekkamai (I don't know what the stations are called) and taking a taxi from there?
Thanks for your info.
DSThe best thing you can do is take a taxi from Dong Muang to the Mo Chit BTS Skytrain station and then take the BTS, direction Bearing (all trains from Mo Chit go to Bearing). You will avoid all the heavy traffic and blockades. For Sukhumvit Soi 23 ("Soi cowboy") you need to get off at BTS station Asoke. Soi 23 is within easy walking distance. You can cross the Asoke intersection by using the upper walkways almost until the end, then turn left and follow the small walkway to the right of the stairs into the "Citibank" building. Inside go right, take an elevator to the ground floor and use the Soi 23 exit. That way you will probably be able to circumvent the people blocking the Asoke intersection.
Alternatively from Mo Chit you can also take the underground (MRT) direction Hua Lamphong to Sukhumvit station and then look for exit 2. Upon getting out of the station, turn right and then right again (this is the infamous Soi Cowboy). Go through Soi Cowboy and you are in Soi 23.
From Suvarnabhumi, take the Airport Link train to Phaya Thai http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaya_Thai_Station and then change for the Skytrain (BTS) , Sukhumvit Line, direction Bearing. For Sukhumvit Soi 71 you need Phra Khanong Station. For Ekkamai, the BTS station is called "Ekkamai". For Sukhumvit 23, see above.
How is business in MPs and nightclubs in response to this shutdown stuff?
Are there still plenty of girls ready to serve mongers or does it seem like that some of them have already bolted out?
Wondering if business is as usual for mongers?
Sorry, didn't mean to branch this to off topic stuff. You make some interesting points though, and if you want to discuss further send a PM.Discuss! Preferably over beers looking at naked gals. Now that would be a plan.
Beer Monger
01-14-14, 03:27
Discuss! Preferably over beers looking at naked gals. Now that would be a plan.I'm in! Used to actually play in a band called "John Galt" in the '80s.
Hi guys,
I know the Shutdown has just started and nobody, not even Giotto with his Crystal Balls can predict how it will develop, but given the current situation (7 key intersections, including Asok blocked etc.) :
-How can one get from Suvarnahumi (BKK) and Don Mueng (DMK) to lower Sukhumvit, Soi 23 and higher, by taxi?
-Is the Airport Link an option for BKK, getting off somewhere near Sukhumvit 71 or Ekkamai (I don't know what the stations are called) and taking a taxi from there?
Thanks for your info.
DSI will still be using taxi to and from the airport. Unless really pick the wrong hotel, should not be too difficult to avoid the shutdown areas. I might avoid staying in Soi 19 as its just to close to the Asoke intersection, and not on the airport side of that intersection.
East of Asoke intersection say Soi 31 onwards should be okay Soi 22 was still usable as of last night.
As I don't monger at Nana much, I don't have much problem as yet. I should have checked out Cowboy last night but was too lazy to get down there. Oily MPs could see a boost in business if guys start avoiding the bars.
Paul Kausch
01-14-14, 07:06
The Bangkok Post reports food courts in malls, fast food outlets and street stalls are doing an excellent business selling food to protesters. It reports the street stall vendors in particular welcome the rallies because they are so good for their business. Earlier I was watching the Landmark's live webcam noticing how little vehicular and foot traffic there was along that stretch of Sukhumvit. Tonight I've noticed they've changed the camera's view so you can no longer see the empty street and sidewalk.
I've read on another website Nana is empty, Soi Cowboy is slow and there are few ladies at either. I bet the MPs around Phrom Phong are thriving. The ladies who can't (won't) go to work in the gogos must be going somewhere working as FLs. They've got to eat. I wonder where they are?
Paul Kausch
01-14-14, 07:09
Hi guys,
I know the Shutdown has just started and nobody, not even Giotto with his Crystal Balls can predict how it will develop, but given the current situation (7 key intersections, including Asok blocked etc.) :
-How can one get from Suvarnahumi (BKK) and Don Mueng (DMK) to lower Sukhumvit, Soi 23 and higher, by taxi?
-Is the Airport Link an option for BKK, getting off somewhere near Sukhumvit 71 or Ekkamai (I don't know what the stations are called) and taking a taxi from there?
Thanks for your info.
DSI read an article earlier today that said there is a plan afoot to give airport taxis a special medallion that would give them passage through the protest areas.
I suggest any vehicle with a gogo dancer in her club uniform be granted free passage through the protest areas.
I know the Shutdown has just started and nobody, not even Giotto with his Crystal Balls can predict how it will develop, but given the current situation (7 key intersections, including Asok blocked etcBoy am I glad I waited before pulling the trigger on another trip. I am hoping the Thai exchange rate falls before I try again in another 8 weeks.
This ignorant rant should be moved / removed.Debatable whether it is a left wing OR right wing rant since 99. 9% of either party would reject it. Both parties have their share of morons.
Since Bo at Suzie Wong has a GF and is a confirmed Bi-sexual, I decided to find out a few things.If I were a Bisexual I would roll the same way as she. Nice to read this type of straight up stuff.
Northern Europe has the highest standards of living in the world, also the happiest people. The US could learn a lot from their systemsMany over-proud Americans insist nothing is better outside their country. These are the people who have never spent significant time out side of it. Over time both models are seeming to migrate closer to each other. I know, different thread!
Thank you all for your input.
1. Is it true that BTS and MRT are operating normally, even across the blocked intersections on Sukhumvit and elsewhere? They are likely to be very busy.
2. Is it true that taxis are operating subject to the many blocked zones?
3. Is it true that pedestrian traffic is possible, even though the blocked zones?
Can you please confirm / comment? This seems to me to be crucial to transferring between the airports (mainly BKK) and lower Suk.
From a hotel around Soi 22 or Soi 31, one can keep oneself pleasantly occupied for a long time.
DS
I was at Asoke last night. 11 pm, around 10, 000 protesters, whistle blowing, somebody on the stage stirring the crowd up. Tends were built up, people preparing to sleep on the streets.So what has the effect of the BKK Shutdown been on the bars business at Soi Cowboy?
From a hotel around Soi 22 or Soi 31, one can keep oneself pleasantly occupied for a long time.
DSSure no problem. See my post in General thread. Taxis available for me but I haven't needed to use any. Using Motorcycles shorthish distances. Must go check out a Soi 22 MP.
If I were a Bisexual I would roll the same way as she. Nice to read this type of straight up stuff.I have known Bo for at least 5 years (don't remember exactly when she started at SuzieW could be more than 5 years). She just doesn't have anything to gain by bullshitting me and is very popular with almost all girls at the bar as she is just so nice even if she molests a few other girls just a little. However all Thai girls lie when they really need to (same as anyone else). Bo always admitted to "really" like doing certain other selected girls (not all. She is entitled to be fussy just like I am).
The very smart Thai girls try not to lie much and prefer to avoid awkward topics completely, rather than bullshit. I know a few that are so expert I have never ever caught them out telling lies even if I suspect."Clamming up" is a very Thai technique. Dumb girls may talk a lot of bullshit habitually. I have met some incredibly angelic honest bar girls in my time even if they might be the exception. Mint at Crazy House is a very honest girl, a relative newbie. I hope that time in the bar doesn't wreck her character too much.
"Can't take the bar out of the girl" doesn't apply just yet.
SimonBolivar
01-14-14, 15:39
I'm going to Bangkok in February with my GF, you know a good massage center (SPA) where I can get a real massage for my GF and a massage special for me without her knowledge.
While her make a real Thai massage me make it one FS or BBBJ.
Thanks
XXXperimental
01-14-14, 16:43
Having a long standing fetish for nice asses and deprived of them after banging thai chicks for a few days, had a nice time with a couple of African free lancers near the Nana area. I had been always on the lookout for someAafrican ass wihout much success even after roaming around the Sois. This was until I realised one of the nights when I was outside around 11pm how much the scene changes after 11. The street pavements turn to booze parlors and African FLs are dime a dozen, all ripe for the pciking. The first night picked up a girl from Uganda. 1500baht with an amazing booty. Took her to the room, no BBBJ but agreed to CBJ, excellent doggy. Once you have an African booty, tough to give it up! So around Soi 5, after 11 is the best place to get african booty!
Cheers
I'm going to Bangkok in February with my GF, you know a good massage center (SPA) where I can get a real massage for my GF and a massage special for me without her knowledge.
While her make a real Thai massage me make it one FS or BBBJ.
ThanksYou haven't thought this one through, have you?
I'm going to Bangkok in February with my GF, you know a good massage center (SPA) where I can get a real massage for my GF and a massage special for me without her knowledge.
While her make a real Thai massage me make it one FS or BBBJ.
ThanksThat instead of diving in with this question that you might read a bit more of this forum.
Hint. Spas for women do not offer FS from men.
And if you thought about it you would be horrified if they did.
But above all, before asking not very bright questions go back six months' posts and read, read and read.
Wolvenvacht
01-14-14, 21:00
Thank you all for your input.
1. Is it true that BTS and MRT are operating normally, even across the blocked intersections on Sukhumvit and elsewhere? They are likely to be very busy.
2. Is it true that taxis are operating subject to the many blocked zones?
3. Is it true that pedestrian traffic is possible, even though the blocked zones?
Can you please confirm / comment? This seems to me to be crucial to transferring between the airports (mainly BKK) and lower Suk.
From a hotel around Soi 22 or Soi 31, one can keep oneself pleasantly occupied for a long time.
DSIt would be very unhealthy for the protesters to sit on the tracks of the BST or MRT and they go either over (BST) or under (MRT) the blocked intersections. Of course, even more people than usual will use them.
Taxis are still operating, but whether they get you anywhere in a reasonable time, is a guess. Use the public transport, Airport Link, BTS and MRT. Much more likely you arrive within a reasonable time.
I don't think it is a good idea to walk through the occupied zones. Farang tourists have nothing to do there.
SimonBolivar
01-15-14, 02:19
That instead of diving in with this question that you might read a bit more of this forum.
Hint. Spas for women do not offer FS from men.
And if you thought about it you would be horrified if they did.
But above all, before asking not very bright questions go back six months' posts and read, read and read.I'm sorry but I do not speak and read English well for writing and reading using google translator. I tried to read previous messages but I only found where the spa is certainly not to go with the GF, as I said before for me to read messages in English is not easy. The only thing I found would seem the "Divana" maybe. I thought I had come up with the perfect plan! While GF does a nice Thai massage I get one particular.
Thanks for any help
AncntFornicatr
01-15-14, 03:57
Sure no problem. See my post in General thread. Taxis available for me but I haven't needed to use any. Using Motorcycles shorthish distances. Must go check out a Soi 22 MP.Previous info was appreciated but it focused Soi 22 and up. I will be getting into Suvarnabumi about midnight on Sunday. Realize the fit may hit the shan between now and then and all bets are off, but, under current conditions how is traffic to and from Soi 4 to 12?
Taxi from airport sounds like it should be reasonable the way things are now. I would appreciate any comments.
JesseJames
01-15-14, 04:17
Previous info was appreciated but it focused Soi 22 and up. I will be getting into Suvarnabumi about midnight on Sunday. Realize the fit may hit the shan between now and then and all bets are off, but, under current conditions how is traffic to and from Soi 4 to 12?
Taxi from airport sounds like it should be reasonable the way things are now. I would appreciate any comments.Yesterday, (Tues) I went to the taxi line, at Suanaphboom, around 6 PM, and told them I was going to Sukhumvit 43. The driver called the manager of my apartment building and all seemed well. He drove Bangna to Sukhumvit and as soon as we hit traffic he started whinning he couldn't get to my building. I told him at 6 PM there is always traffic at that intersection. He insisted he would drop me off at On Nut. I chose Udom Suk, which has elevators, because I had luggage. It was a real hassle for me to deal with the luggage at Phrom Pong. There was absolutely no traffic on Sukhumvit, in my neighborhood, and even a taxi line in front of the Emporium.
The airport has signs and they have shuttles but it's all bullshit. I would use a limo from AOT. The taxi drivers, in the past year have become, for the most part lying, rotten rats. At midnight you don't want to be dumped out somewhere along the way. Book a limo.
JesseJames
01-15-14, 04:25
Thank you all for your input.
1. Is it true that BTS and MRT are operating normally, even across the blocked intersections on Sukhumvit and elsewhere? They are likely to be very busy.
2. Is it true that taxis are operating subject to the many blocked zones?
3. Is it true that pedestrian traffic is possible, even though the blocked zones?
Can you please confirm / comment? This seems to me to be crucial to transferring between the airports (mainly BKK) and lower Suk.
From a hotel around Soi 22 or Soi 31, one can keep oneself pleasantly occupied for a long time.
DSIt is total anarchy. BTS and MRT could be shut down at any time. They could jump on the tracks or just shoot guns or rockets at them, or bombs.
Don't rely on taxis to go anywhere. I wouldn't walk down there.
Thank you all for your input.
1. Is it true that BTS and MRT are operating normally, even across the blocked intersections on Sukhumvit and elsewhere? They are likely to be very busy.Daddy,
BTS and MRT are quite full right now, but normally working. You might have problems to get in / out in the areas where the demonstrations are (Asoke, Siam, Silom etc.). Not sure. I haven't checked it out.
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2. Is it true that taxis are operating subject to the many blocked zones?Lots of taxis available, and some of them try to make some additional money. Of course they cannot go into areas where the roads are blocked. Usually the drivers know.
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3. Is it true that pedestrian traffic is possible, even though the blocked zones?Yes.
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Can you please confirm / comment? This seems to me to be crucial to transferring between the airports (mainly BKK) and lower Suk.
From a hotel around Soi 22 or Soi 31, one can keep oneself pleasantly occupied for a long time.You can easily get with a taxi from the airport to Soi 22 and Soi 31. I am moving around in this direction back and forth several times a day (to Ekkamai / Thong Lor).
I heard that Mr. Suthep leads some protestors to Thong Lor today. So there will be a bit more of a mess in the area around Soi 22 and Soi 31. But still - you can get into both roads not only from Sukhumvit, but also from Rama 4 (Soi 22) and Petchaburi (Soi 31). No problem up to now.
Traffic coming from the upper Sukhumvit area (Soi 39 ++) is light and has to perform a U-Turn close to Soi 23. The traffic flows. But cannot get through to the lower Sukhumvit area. To get there you have to cross over to Petchaburi Road and then get into Sukhumvit Soi 3. All that is no problem at all!
Giotto
Previous info was appreciated but it focused Soi 22 and up. I will be getting into Suvarnabumi about midnight on Sunday. Realize the fit may hit the shan between now and then and all bets are off, but, under current conditions how is traffic to and from Soi 4 to 12?
Taxi from airport sounds like it should be reasonable the way things are now. I would appreciate any comments.AncientFornicatr,
To get to Soi 4 with a taxi should not be a problem (Petchaburi Road, Sukhumvit Soi 3). To get to Soi 12. Not sure right now, for that there must be a U-Turn somewhere close to Soi 19. But I expect that the Asoke road block on that side also allows a U-Turn. So you get there.
I might check it out today.
Giotto
JesseJames
01-15-14, 05:53
AncientFornicatr,
To get to Soi 4 with a taxi should not be a problem (Petchaburi Road, Sukhumvit Soi 3). To get to Soi 12. Not sure right now, for that there must be a U-Turn somewhere close to Soi 19. But I expect that the Asoke road block on that side also allows a U-Turn. So you get there.
I might check it out today.
GiottoIt will be up to the driver. If he thinks he's going to get stuck he'll drop you off wherever he feels like. They don't feel obligated to deliver some Falang to a place where he doesn't want to go. They don't care about you. Good Luck.
Bailey1515
01-15-14, 16:03
I too am arriving Sunday night at 11PM and overnighting on Sathorn Road. Can anyone please tell me if I should have any issues getting from Suvarnabhumi to Sathorn Road by taxi? Its Sathorn 6, off Sathorn Road.
I'm going to Bangkok in February with my GF, you know a good massage center (SPA) where I can get a real massage for my GF and a massage special for me without her knowledge.
While her make a real Thai massage me make it one FS or BBBJ.
ThanksTry the spa on the 7th floor at the Grand Diamond hotel next to Panthip Plaza. It is a nice upscale spa that your lady will enjoy and you will get whatever additional services you might want. I've been there several times and full service was always offered.
SimonBolivar
01-16-14, 03:05
Try the spa on the 7th floor at the Grand Diamond hotel next to Panthip Plaza. It is a nice upscale spa that your lady will enjoy and you will get whatever additional services you might want. I've been there several times and full service was always offered.Thank you so much for the information. If you have any another tip will be very welcome.
Beer Monger
01-16-14, 07:29
Actually with the current situation in BKK there is a bit of a lull in the P4P scene. About 30 people total in Thermae at 11 last night and several gogos in Cowboy closed before 10pm.
And I don't think the US is a model for much of anything these days, except for fair play in sports and great music!Beer! Don't forget the emergence of incredible craft beer!
Beer! Don't forget the emergence of incredible craft beer!Yep, sorry about that. Greatest beer nation on earth, bar none!
Paul Kausch
01-16-14, 08:07
I intended to post this report a week ago, but got distracted. Hopefully this will get the Bangkok Report thread back on topic.
I enjoyed writing my trip reports. Gave me an opportunity to relive some wonderful experiences. As I wrote in my first report. I love Bangkok. Truly a mongers' paradise, with so many other excellent reasons to visit. Bangkok is a city filled with sexy women, great food and a vibrant social scene.
Unfortunately, a brief illness at the time of my arrival messed up my schedule and catching up with work prevented me from get out during the day as much as I had planned. I wanted to sample some of the MPs that are seldom mentioned and pay a visit to at least one of the soapies on Ratchada. I'm determined to make a special effort to do both in June. I also spent very little time in the gogos. Crazy House in particular is a venue I wish I had visited. Again, next time.
One of the things I've been thinking about is which of the ladies I saw on this past trip I'd like to see on my next trip in June. I'd have to put the three ladies from Bangkok Gold on the list, with Pim at the top of my list. For me she's the complete package, pretty, classy, sexy, smart, great company and great sex. Mint's bisexuality makes me particularly keen on doing a duo with her and another lady of her choosing. Escorts in general and Goldie's ladies in particular are expensive, but for me they're worth it.
Having said that, I think the MP ladies, especially on outcall, are great, and great value. I'd love to see Cheer and Bo again; great sex, great fun and two real sweeties. The little good luck going away ceremony they arranged for me touched my heart. I'm really happy to see Ploy is now working at Bamboo. Wish she had been there while I was in town. Oh well, she's high on my list of ladies to see in June.
I think I'd like to see #20 (Lois) at Annie's again, but this time on outcall. In my opinion she was the prettiest of all the ladies I was with on my entire trip. I also like the fact that she is a mature lady in her mid-thirties (I'll be almost 63 in June). That plus her excellent English language skills I think will make for a very nice evening; and the overnight outcall allows plenty of time for another great massage, with plenty of time for even more great sex on the side. Surprisingly, I'm not in a big hurry to see #24, Aor, on my next trip. She's hot as hell and the sex on the first outcall was fantastic, no beyond fantastic, but one of the things I've experienced in my life is that an encounter with sex that wild is hard to duplicate. Maybe with the perfect girlfriend when the stars are properly aligned, but not with a sex worker. Perhaps I'll feel differently in six months. Perhaps the slightly disappointing second outcall is too fresh on my mind, not that I'm blaming her for that. Hell, maybe she's already booked up through September.
Then there's Fiona. I saw her because her age, appearance and relative inexperience appealed to one of my particular prurient interests. She wasn't the prettiest lady I saw; though she certainly was the tiniest. Her lack of sexual experience was amusing; and I mean that in a nice way. I'm not being cruel and mocking her. It's just that I haven't been with a woman with so little sexual experience in decades, which made her a lot of fun for me. I think it would be interesting to see her again in June to see what she's like after another six months in the business. I'm under the impression that at the time I saw her she had been with less than a dozen clients. I figure by June that number could be more than a hundred. Of course by then she could be a hardened pro, which would mess up my impression of her. My hunch is that won't be the case. I think her sweetness is too deeply embedded into every fiber of her being. I confess, another reason I'm interested in seeing her again is that a most deviant thought is running through my mind. Should I be lucky enough to run into a fellow as depraved as me in June, I'd be tempted to see if I could use the lure of a double payday to entice her into a threesome. Me bad! :D
I think I'll stop by Dr. BJ's on my next trip. Not necessarily to see Consultant P again, though she was fine. Actually, it's because I really liked the VIP room. It was so big and with the A/C off and the fan on it was very comfortable. Frankly, I thought the lobby and it's social atmosphere was a bit cold, but I think I'll stop by to see if anyone appeals to me. Of course I plan to hit the old standards: Mango, Cherry, SW and Tulip. And as I mentioned, I'm determined to explore some of the lesser known establishments.
To change the topic. Prior to my trip I ordered a bunch of polyurethane condoms on Amazon. I bought the Okamoto .02 EX large size. They are expensive. Two US dollars each when you buy them in a six pack. But they are absolutely the best condoms I have ever used. Good fit. Contrary to what some men claim, they are not that difficult to put on. They are strong. The biggest plus is they are excellent heat conductors. Fucking while wearing one of them is very close to the bareback experience. You really feel the heat from being inside a woman. The only thing you're missing is that wet feeling you get as your dick slides in and out of her pussy.
I'd consider staying at the Landmark again. My room wasn't perfect, but it was very quiet. The hotel's location is fantastic. My room looked down on Nana Plaza. Bamboo Massage is just around the corner. Close to Annie's'. And it's a couple minutes walk to the Nana BTS stop. During my stay I learned they have a membership program that entitles you to one-half off the rack rate. A Premium Club Floor Superior Room (newly renovated) will end up costing US$92 (before the ++). Though you do have to amortize the THB4900 membership cost across the length of stay. The membership is good for a year, during which I expect to spend at least 5 or 6 weeks in Bangkok, at my own expense for a change. A number of free perks come with the Club Floor accommodations, including one piece of dry cleaning each day, a very substantial buffet breakfast, snacks and beverages throughout the day and drinks and hors the'oeuvres in the early evening in the Club Lounge. Free internet. Ten percent off your bill in all the restaurants, not that I recommend them, except for the Chinese restaurant which had good dim sum daily. Plus you get fast check in and check out in the Club Lounge with late checkout (16:00).
Finally, I want to close by thanking all you sick, twisted mongers who contribute to the Bangkok threads. I have a great time reading your reports. I learn a lot. And I even managed to use some of I what I learned to have a fantastic time in the City of Angels.
Wolvenvacht
01-16-14, 08:21
Yep, sorry about that. Greatest beer nation on earth, bar none!Mmmm, make that "bar Belgium".
IamJohnGalt
01-16-14, 08:22
Yep, sorry about that. Greatest beer nation on earth, bar none!Any chance there are beer making supplies in Bangkok? Is it legal to make your own?
Brewing beer (while drinking previously brewed beer, of course) is one of the best hobbies for a beer lover.
Beer! Don't forget the emergence of incredible craft beer!Beer lover, ever brew any of your own? If not, you should give it a go.
Have a look at the book "The Complete Joy of Home Brewing"
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/292055.The_Complete_Joy_of_Homebrewing
Mmmm, make that "bar Belgium".If you have not been to the US in the last 5 years, you would be surprised at what has happened with beer there. It has been taken to an entirely new level. Don't get me wrong, Belgian beers are amazing, but craft beer from the US is an art form.
Any chance there are beer making supplies in Bangkok? Is it legal to make your own?
Brewing beer (while drinking previously brewed beer, of course) is one of the best hobbies for a beer lover.
Beer lover, ever brew any of your own? If not, you should give it a go.
Have a look at the book "The Complete Joy of Home Brewing"
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/292055.The_Complete_Joy_of_HomebrewingThanks for the site!
Sadly, it is illegal to brew beer here, although there is a place to get supplies and folks are starting to do it anyway.
Craft beers are popping up in neighboring nations, but Thailand has very restrictive tax laws that protect the big boys.
In order to get a license to brew you have to pay tax on a million liters a year. At that level you can only brew and sell on premises. You cannot bottle.
The next level is tax on 10 million liters, effectively cutting out any potential craft breweries.
I intended to post this report a week ago, but got distracted. Hopefully this will get the Bangkok Report thread back on topic.
I enjoyed writing my trip reports. Gave me an opportunity to relive some wonderful experiences. As I wrote in my first report. I love Bangkok. Truly a mongers' paradise, with so many other excellent reasons to visit. Bangkok is a city filled with sexy women, great food and a vibrant social scene.
Unfortunately, a brief illness at the time of my arrival messed up my schedule and catching up with work prevented me from get out during the day as much as I had planned. I wanted to sample some of the MPs that are seldom mentioned and pay a visit to at least one of the soapies on Ratchada. I'm determined to make a special effort to do both in June. I also spent very little time in the gogos. Crazy House in particular is a venue I wish I had visited. Again, next time.
One of the things I've been thinking about is which of the ladies I saw on this past trip I'd like to see on my next trip in June. I'd have to put the three ladies from Bangkok Gold on the list, with Pim at the top of my list. For me she's the complete package, pretty, classy, sexy, smart, great company and great sex. Mint's bisexuality makes me particularly keen on doing a duo with her and another lady of her choosing. Escorts in general and Goldie's ladies in particular are expensive, but for me they're worth it.
Having said that, I think the MP ladies, especially on outcall, are great, and great value. I'd love to see Cheer and Bo again; great sex, great fun and two real sweeties. The little good luck going away ceremony they arranged for me touched my heart. I'm really happy to see Ploy is now working at Bamboo. Wish she had been there while I was in town. Oh well, she's high on my list of ladies to see in June.
I think I'd like to see #20 (Lois) at Annie's again, but this time on outcall. In my opinion she was the prettiest of all the ladies I was with on my entire trip. I also like the fact that she is a mature lady in her mid-thirties (I'll be almost 63 in June). That plus her excellent English language skills I think will make for a very nice evening; and the overnight outcall allows plenty of time for another great massage, with plenty of time for even more great sex on the side. Surprisingly, I'm not in a big hurry to see #24, Aor, on my next trip. She's hot as hell and the sex on the first outcall was fantastic, no beyond fantastic, but one of the things I've experienced in my life is that an encounter with sex that wild is hard to duplicate. Maybe with the perfect girlfriend when the stars are properly aligned, but not with a sex worker. Perhaps I'll feel differently in six months. Perhaps the slightly disappointing second outcall is too fresh on my mind, not that I'm blaming her for that. Hell, maybe she's already booked up through September.
Then there's Fiona. I saw her because her age, appearance and relative inexperience appealed to one of my particular prurient interests. She wasn't the prettiest lady I saw; though she certainly was the tiniest. Her lack of sexual experience was amusing; and I mean that in a nice way. I'm not being cruel and mocking her. It's just that I haven't been with a woman with so little sexual experience in decades, which made her a lot of fun for me. I think it would be interesting to see her again in June to see what she's like after another six months in the business. I'm under the impression that at the time I saw her she had been with less than a dozen clients. I figure by June that number could be more than a hundred. Of course by then she could be a hardened pro, which would mess up my impression of her. My hunch is that won't be the case. I think her sweetness is too deeply embedded into every fiber of her being. I confess, another reason I'm interested in seeing her again is that a most deviant thought is running through my mind. Should I be lucky enough to run into a fellow as depraved as me in June, I'd be tempted to see if I could use the lure of a double payday to entice her into a threesome. Me bad! .
I think I'll stop by Dr. BJ's on my next trip. Not necessarily to see Consultant P again, though she was fine. Actually, it's because I really liked the VIP room. It was so big and with the A / C off and the fan on it was very comfortable. Frankly, I thought the lobby and it's social atmosphere was a bit cold, but I think I'll stop by to see if anyone appeals to me. Of course I plan to hit the old standards: Mango, Cherry, SW and Tulip. And as I mentioned, I'm determined to explore some of the lesser known establishments.
To change the topic. Prior to my trip I ordered a bunch of polyurethane condoms on Amazon. I bought the Okamoto. 02 EX large size. They are expensive. Two US dollars each when you buy them in a six pack. But they are absolutely the best condoms I have ever used. Good fit. Contrary to what some men claim, they are not that difficult to put on. They are strong. The biggest plus is they are excellent heat conductors. Fucking while wearing one of them is very close to the bareback experience. You really feel the heat from being inside a woman. The only thing you're missing is that wet feeling you get as your dick slides in and out of her pussy.
I'd consider staying at the Landmark again. My room wasn't perfect, but it was very quiet. The hotel's location is fantastic. My room looked down on Nana Plaza. Bamboo Massage is just around the corner. Close to Annie's'. And it's a couple minutes walk to the Nana BTS stop. During my stay I learned they have a membership program that entitles you to one-half off the rack rate. A Premium Club Floor Superior Room (newly renovated) will end up costing US$92 (before the ++). Though you do have to amortize the THB4900 membership cost across the length of stay. The membership is good for a year, during which I expect to spend at least 5 or 6 weeks in Bangkok, at my own expense for a change. A number of free perks come with the Club Floor accommodations, including one piece of dry cleaning each day, a very substantial buffet breakfast, snacks and beverages throughout the day and drinks and hors the'oeuvres in the early evening in the Club Lounge. Free internet. Ten percent off your bill in all the restaurants, not that I recommend them, except for the Chinese restaurant which had good dim sum daily. Plus you get fast check in and check out in the Club Lounge with late checkout (16:00).
Finally, I want to close by thanking all you sick, twisted mongers who contribute to the Bangkok threads. I have a great time reading your reports. I learn a lot. And I even managed to use some of I what I learned to have a fantastic time in the City of Angels.Thanks Paul, you've just given me a road map for my upcoming first trip to BKK.
Finally, I want to close by thanking all you sick, twisted mongers who contribute to the Bangkok threads. I have a great time reading your reports. I learn a lot. And I even managed to use some of I what I learned to have a fantastic time in the City of Angels.You are lucky. Some of us only get a useful tipbit only very occasionally. Thanks to Dan and one other for mentioning the return of Yok (Bo) to Cherry last year.
Very hard to think of anything else recently I didn't find for myself. Maybe I have used a Hotel hint on rare occasions and ages ago got a tip on best chemist to use. Go back many years and I was convinced to try an Oily and Tulip for first time, try Livingstones, and eventually to try Annies, Mango, Snow White. My interest in Bamboo has not yet occurred at all.
For guys that are here all the time, there is truly very little of use. Its mainly help for the newbies and occasional tourists.
AussieDoug
01-16-14, 15:45
I intended to post this report a week ago, but got distracted. Hopefully this will get the Bangkok Report thread back on topic.
I'd consider staying at the Landmark again. My room wasn't perfect, but it was very quiet. The hotel's location is fantastic. My room looked down on Nana Plaza. Bamboo Massage is just around the corner. Close to Annie's'. And it's a couple minutes walk to the Nana BTS stop. During my stay I learned they have a membership program that entitles you to one-half off the rack rate. A Premium Club Floor Superior Room (newly renovated) will end up costing US$92 (before the ++). Though you do have to amortize the THB4900 membership cost across the length of stay. The membership is good for a year, during which I expect to spend at least 5 or 6 weeks in Bangkok, at my own expense for a change. A number of free perks come with the Club Floor accommodations, including one piece of dry cleaning each day, a very substantial buffet breakfast, snacks and beverages throughout the day and drinks and hors the'oeuvres in the early evening in the Club Lounge. Free internet. Ten percent off your bill in all the restaurants, not that I recommend them, except for the Chinese restaurant which had good dim sum daily. Plus you get fast check in and check out in the Club Lounge with late checkout (16:00).I've had the Landmark Club membership for about 15 years or so, it is darn good value, the food discounts pay for it many times over if you stay for a few weeks a year. Go for the top level cost, it includes a free room for one night.
Beer Monger
01-16-14, 16:22
Any chance there are beer making supplies in Bangkok? Is it legal to make your own?
Brewing beer (while drinking previously brewed beer, of course) is one of the best hobbies for a beer lover.
Beer lover, ever brew any of your own? If not, you should give it a go.
Have a look at the book "The Complete Joy of Home Brewing"
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/292055.The_Complete_Joy_of_HomebrewingWith my travel schedule I only have time to make 2 or 3 batches a year. Last year I made a Russian Imperial at 7. 2% ABV and a Strong Dark Belgian that came in at close to 9.
Belgium is incredible. Had a chance to spend a couple of days in Brussels last year. 20 beers over two days and managed not to gain wait by walking a KM between each one. It is definitely unique, as the history and variety of styles make it like no place on earth. I was about to say that it might be the best place per capita, but then remembered that I was in Bend, Oregon in September. 8 world class craft breweries in a town of 20, 000 people. My God I love Bend.
Paul Kausch
01-16-14, 17:04
You are lucky. Some of us only get a useful tipbit only very occasionally. Thanks to Dan and one other for mentioning the return of Yok (Bo) to Cherry last year.
Very hard to think of anything else recently I didn't find for myself. Maybe I have used a Hotel hint on rare occasions and ages ago got a tip on best chemist to use. Go back many years and I was convinced to try an Oily and Tulip for first time, try Livingstones, and eventually to try Annies, Mango, Snow White. My interest in Bamboo has not yet occurred at all.
For guys that are here all the time, there is truly very little of use. Its mainly help for the newbies and occasional tourists.Syzygies, you in particular are one of several very knowledgeable guys whose posts I've been reading closely for the past year. I can appreciate that the forum doesn't do much to expand your knowledge of Bangkok; and I suppose after a year of being a pretty avid reading I've reached the point that the entertainment value of the forum outweighs the amount of new information I get on a weekly basis. I still appreciate the fact that I can ask a question and get an answer, or several answers.
Before starting to read the forum I'd been to Bangkok a few dozen times over a couple of decades. Despite all those visits, I didn't have an organized understanding of the sex scene. I knew the drill in the gogo bars. I knew where Patpong, Soi Cowboy and NEP were located. Over time I'd learned to avoid Patpong. I knew Annie's and Tulips (but no other MPs by name) , that there were a bunch of oilies around the Emporium. I was aware of the good value Bangkok escorts provided compared to Western Europe and North America. I knew somewhere north of Sukhumvit at Asok there were a bunch of big fancy soapy MPs and how to get to them on the MRT. In other words, I had some sense of the forest's typography. Now I have an understanding of the various species of trees in the forest and each specie's characteristics.
The Bangkok protests are an example of another thing I like about the forum. I read the little badly researched reporting that appears in the USA about the protests. I read the Bangkok Post. I've learned more about what's behind the protests on this forum than anywhere else. I've had to sift through information and opinions (noise) and take what everyone says with a grain of salt, but it's strange, and a bit sad, that ISG is one of my prime sources for expanding my understanding of Thai politics.
Thanks again guys.
AssLover945
01-16-14, 18:03
Any chance there are beer making supplies in Bangkok? Is it legal to make your own?
Brewing beer (while drinking previously brewed beer, of course) is one of the best hobbies for a beer lover.
Beer lover, ever brew any of your own? If not, you should give it a go.
Have a look at the book "The Complete Joy of Home Brewing"
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/292055.The_Complete_Joy_of_HomebrewingIs there any place in Bangkok where I can get these brewing kits? To brew beer at home?
Member #4698
01-16-14, 18:11
My morning ritual begins with making a pot of coffee, feeding the Macaw, reading the headlines in Drudge and WSJ, going through the overnight stack of emails and then settling down to read the ISG. I think I know my way around BKK as much as any tourist can, but occasionally I pick up new info here or there about a new massage parlor, a Go Go, a particular lady, a restaurant, current political events, and various other things, you name it. The new info doesn't come every day, but over a month or so there is usually something relevant and worth taking note of. In addition I enjoy reading the posts of a few knowledgeable and interesting board members. You guys know who you are. It kind of keeps me connected to the scene while I am at home. When I travel I hardly look at the ISG because I am living it and don't want or need to read about it anymore. Pretty soon I will be back in LOS. New places for me will be Crazy House, Bamboo, a few restaurants, and some nightclubs away from Sukhumvit. All of which I think first heard about here on the ISG. Yep, that's my morning ritual: the ISG and coffee.
AncntFornicatr
01-16-14, 20:11
AncientFornicatr,
To get to Soi 4 with a taxi should not be a problem (Petchaburi Road, Sukhumvit Soi 3). To get to Soi 12. Not sure right now, for that there must be a U-Turn somewhere close to Soi 19. But I expect that the Asoke road block on that side also allows a U-Turn. So you get there.
I might check it out today.
GiottoThanks Giotto and all who replied with info on traffic problems on getting from the airport to Suk. I will continue to monitor as the situation develops as info here in the States is slow and unpredictable. Eager to get back for another couple of months in the land of lovely ladies. LOLL.
It seems that the Land Of Smiles, LOS, may have gone the way of Thaksin. Looking forward to it's return and a beer at the Londener. I'm buying if anybody is thirsty, PM me.
AF
Is there any place in Bangkok where I can get these brewing kits? To brew beer at home?Http://www.brew-by-me.com/
With my travel schedule I only have time to make 2 or 3 batches a year. Last year I made a Russian Imperial at 7. 2% ABV and a Strong Dark Belgian that came in at close to 9.
Belgium is incredible. Had a chance to spend a couple of days in Brussels last year. 20 beers over two days and managed not to gain wait by walking a KM between each one. It is definitely unique, as the history and variety of styles make it like no place on earth. I was about to say that it might be the best place per capita, but then remembered that I was in Bend, Oregon in September. 8 world class craft breweries in a town of 20, 000 people. My God I love Bend.Awesome. Would love to start home brewing. Amazing thing is that there are craft breweries in almost every nook and cranny of the US!
IamJohnGalt
01-17-14, 02:59
Http://www.brew-by-me.com/Thanks for finding and posting the link.
Higher pricing of kits compared to US, NZ, Oz.
Example Coopers DIY kit is $90 in Oz vs $200 on that site.
That's for basic equipment and supplies to make about 65-70 bottles.
You would also need a large pot to boil the wort and some sanitizer to use on all equipment and bottles. You could probably use your own glass bottles from purchased beer if you buy a capper and caps. I had a local pub saving bottles for me so I could try a lot of different brews. You can get a lot of recipes at www.hopville.com and save your own in an account there if you wish.
Other kits on that site are about double the prices I paid in Auckland NZ.
(Perhaps due to legal issues and lower demand.)
So 2nd beer brewed would be about $60 for 65 bottles at those prices.
Thanks for finding and posting the link.
Higher pricing of kits compared to US, NZ, Oz.
Example Coopers DIY kit is $90 in Oz vs $200 on that site.
That's for basic equipment and supplies to make about 65-70 bottles.
You would also need a large pot to boil the wort and some sanitizer to use on all equipment and bottles. You could probably use your own glass bottles from purchased beer if you buy a capper and caps. I had a local pub saving bottles for me so I could try a lot of different brews. You can get a lot of recipes at www.hopville.com And save your own in an account there if you wish.
Other kits on that site are about double the prices I paid in Auckland NZ.
(Perhaps due to legal issues and lower demand.)
So 2nd beer brewed would be about $60 for 65 bottles at those prices.There are a lot of kitchen supply companies on Rama IV near Phrakanong. One could probably get the other equipment there.
IamJohnGalt
01-17-14, 04:08
There are a lot of kitchen supply companies on Rama IV near Phrakanong. One could probably get the other equipment there.Definitely get a stainless steel brew pot, not aluminum. I think I used about a 15 ltr pot for the relatively simple beers I did in NZ, but you will need a larger one if you want to make things like barleywine ale (which is an amazing brew for special occasions.)
Beer Monger
01-17-14, 05:40
Definitely get a stainless steel brew pot, not aluminum. I think I used about a 15 ltr pot for the relatively simple beers I did in NZ, but you will need a larger one if you want to make things like barleywine ale (which is an amazing brew for special occasions.)I would go 20 liter on the pot. You need two plastic buckets, each about 6 gallons, with spickets, and one of them needs a tight fitting lid with a small hole for the airlock, and an airlock. You will need a length of tubing, a bottle filler, a bottle capper, and blank bottle caps.
The hard part is going to be getting good ingredients. Unless you go hardcore and make your own malt, you will need to get liquid malt (fermentable sugars) , yeast (to turn sugar to alcohol) , grains (for flavoring) and hops (for bittering and flavoring).
I would suggest getting a good book (http://www.howtobrew.com/ Is the bible I use) and read through it before you buy any equipment. Once you've read this, figure out what you can buy or make in Thailand, and what you will have to import / smuggle.
IamJohnGalt
01-17-14, 06:41
I would go 20 liter on the pot. You need two plastic buckets, each about 6 gallons, with spickets, and one of them needs a tight fitting lid with a small hole for the airlock, and an airlock. You will need a length of tubing, a bottle filler, a bottle capper, and blank bottle caps.
The hard part is going to be getting good ingredients. Unless you go hardcore and make your own malt, you will need to get liquid malt (fermentable sugars) , yeast (to turn sugar to alcohol) , grains (for flavoring) and hops (for bittering and flavoring).
I would suggest getting a good book (
http://www.howtobrew.com/
Is the bible I use) and read through it before you buy any equipment. Once you've read this, figure out what you can buy or make in Thailand, and what you will have to import / smuggle.All good advice, beer monger. Only thing I would add is that getting dry malt extract might be easier (or might not.) The practical advantage is if you can get it shipped in at a good price, you don't have to ship the weight of water that's in the liquid extract. Either dry or liquid can be used to make fantastic beer. If you have the space, the time, and the inclination then making your own extract from grain would be a solution if there is a supply problem on getting malt extract. But as beer monger indicated, using extract is a lot easier especially for someone just getting started. Using extract or a kit gives more immediate gratification and positive feedback on the brewing process. Brewing a simple beer will only take about 2 weeks. We often cooked the wort on Saturday and let it cool overnight. Then pitched the yeast the next morning. It would take a few days to ferment. (The yeast eats almost all the sugar in the wort and creates alcohol and CO2.) Then on the next weekend we would bottle the beer (after adding bottling sugar for the yeast to create carbonation.). Then it would take about a week for the beer to carbonate in the bottle. More complicated (and low temperature) brewing recipes take a longer elapsed time. Thats another reason to start with a simple one. Its more fun to brew beer when you already have some of your own brew to drink during the process;)
LoveKitKat
01-17-14, 10:15
I paid 200 baht for an oil massage and it was made by a woman who was for sure a novice. I was really upset there and is not a guide, a website, an application who show the price and the ability of the woman.
I can report that the road East of Soi Cowboy is closed. But, it's like a big party with people dancing, concerts and artists.
It's still a bit early (7pm) but girls are arriving continuously to Soi Cowboy.
I arrived half an hour ago from Nana where there's business as usual.
I recommend mc-taxi cause the traffic is really bad.
The link is now on the "Front Page". This might work:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_forumrules
Hi guys,
Thanks for all the information that you always provide! It's just great!
You guys are on the ground. I'm coming to Thailand on 7th of February. I booked a long time ago when problems and the upcoming elections weren't even a subject. My plan is to spend three days in Bangkok before heading for the Philippines for a week and coming back to Thailand then to spend a week in Pattaya. Let me please ask the following questions:
- Have I understood correctly that the area of Nana, Sukhumvit 6 and 8 are still okay nowadays?
- Coming from Suvarnabhumi airport by taxi, going to a hotel in Sukhumvit 4, 6 or 8, will I have to confront with the same traffic as usual or is it heavier?
- Or does it make more sense to skip Bangkok and better go to Pattaya right away?
What I learnt from my last stay, according to a taxi driver, coming from Suvarnabhumi airport, it's better to go to the even Sois than uneven like for example Sukhumvit 7 (beer garden).
- Is that still the case because I assume that the exit "Sukhumvit" is busier because of the shut down?
Thanks a lot for your answers! I'd really appreciate to get the answers.
I paid 200 baht for an oil massage and it was made by a woman who was for sure a novice. I was really upset there and is not a guide, a website, an application who show the price and the ability of the woman.Thanks for the laugh. You paid the equivalent of 6 USD and you were "really upset" that she was a novice. Ha ha. Thanks again.
Soi Cowboy was working as normal last night. I crossed through the people camped on Asoke to get there no problem at all.
Mob previously at Thonglor is gone so taxi can travel East from Cowboy no problem. To travel other way to Suhimvit low Sois simply do the walk of shame through the Asoke gathering if have girl with you LOL.
I took girl to Penny Black ST Hotel for 90 min ST. After drink commissions she had just 140 Baht in her purse. My ST money was desperately needed as she had tooth ache and needed to see the dentist today.
Despite toothache she was really into the sex and cum more than once. This was a newbie girl in Dec and has very low English but picking up a few words now using bar girls English handbook.
Slow moving taxis in Soi 23 but out on Suk late no problem at all.
Soi Cowboy was working as normal last night. I crossed through the people camped on Asoke to get there no problem at all.
Mob previously at Thonglor is gone so taxi can travel East from Cowboy no problem. To travel other way to Suhimvit low Sois simply do the walk of shame through the Asoke gathering if have girl with you LOL.
I took girl to Penny Black ST Hotel for 90 min ST. After drink commissions she had just 140 Baht in her purse. My ST money was desperately needed as she had tooth ache and needed to see the dentist today.
Despite toothache she was really into the sex and cum more than once. This was a newbie girl in Dec and has very low English but picking up a few words now using bar girls English handbook.
Slow moving taxis in Soi 23 but out on Suk late no problem at all.Normal crowd on Cowboy or was it slow?
Normal crowd on Cowboy or was it slow?Girl told me business has been down a bit this week, but seemed fairly busy last night at midnight as was Friday. I could not detect anything different to normal Friday but only went in one bar.
Greetings Everyone,
I moved the last several pages of discussion regarding "Thailand Politics" to another thread in this forum titled "Thailand Politics".
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2526-Thailand-Politics
This "Thread Splitting" process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently moved / did not move a few reports. If you find that your own report was also moved / not moved, please don't take it personally.
Thanks,
Jackson
- Coming from Suvarnabhumi airport by taxi, going to a hotel in Sukhumvit 4, 6 or 8, will I have to confront with the same traffic as usual or is it heavier?
- Or does it make more sense to skip Bangkok and better go to Pattaya right away?
What I learnt from my last stay, according to a taxi driver, coming from Suvarnabhumi airport, it's better to go to the even Sois than uneven like for example Sukhumvit 7 (beer garden).I think the traffic on Sukhumvit is generally lower than normal. In the area of the Sois you mention, much lower than normal.
I see any great difference between the even and odd Sois as long as stay in odd Soi where can do a U turn on Sukhumvit at Soi 11 to go back to the Expressway that comes out at approx. Soi 1. Once get past the last U turn spot before Asoke gets harder. Soi 11 should be no great problem as normally can turn right into Sukhumvit I believe. Sois 13, to 19 would have to take the back Sois to exit from Soi 11 or lower then go to express way.
Even Sois would be better for getting to airport a bit quicker.
Greetings Everyone,
I moved the last several pages of discussion regarding "Thailand Politics" to another thread in this forum titled "Thailand Politics".
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2526-Thailand-Politics
This "Thread Splitting" process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently moved / did not move a few reports. If you find that your own report was also moved / not moved, please don't take it personally.
Thanks,
JacksonWould be nice to have a "Bangkok non-sex topics" related thread, as people do not seem inclined to use the General thread for this purpose. Thailand Politics is very specific so something more general would be useful.
Normal crowd on Cowboy or was it slow?I was there a little to early to judge. The girls (in 2 bars) said it was a bit down. But, from my pint of view it was almost a little better. The Protestant played nice music with live bad, and the girls was more active / interested.
But, as usual I went to Nana after a few hours, I think it's more relaxed and also the same price. But for a longtime girl. I always appreciate my morning massage.
The link is now on the "Front Page". This might work:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_forumrulesWell I have to be honest. I just looked through the whole set of rules and I actually do not see anything in there that says off-topic posts are verboten. Closest is "no trolling" which is defined as not posting something that "disrupts the peace and harmony" of the thread.
It really seems like it should have a rule though. Somehow I think if I put up 15 consecutive posts here about buying socks, that would annoy the crap out of everybody. Jackson just removed all the stuff about the protests (I never did click that Report Post link, just for the record) but left all the stuff about taxes and beer-making, which to me at least was way more annoying to have to scroll through.
Apologies to anyone offended by my outburst yesterday, got a bit too hot under the collar. I mean, I still do get irritated when the thread is overhwlemed with non-pertinent discussion. But I probably came on too strong. Appreciated that the beer talk simmered down. No personal offense meant.
I paid 200 baht for an oil massage and it was made by a woman who was for sure a novice. I was really upset there and is not a guide, a website, an application who show the price and the ability of the woman.And where did this happen? Was it a genuine massage palce or maybe was an oliy where massage is a collateral and the purpose of the place is another one? Have you been offered any thing else (for a tip)?
Well I have to be honest. I just looked through the whole set of rules and I actually do not see anything in there that says off-topic posts are verboten. Closest is "no trolling" which is defined as not posting something that "disrupts the peace and harmony" of the thread.
It really seems like it should have a rule though. .On the principle there should not be a real rule (we are on a sex / monger forum, not on "life_in_Thailand") but common sense should prevail. It is clear common sense seems to lack in a lot of people.
PS: socks are available in many Sukh stalls, by the way.
Hi guys,
Thanks for all the information that you always provide! It's just great!
You guys are on the ground. I'm coming to Thailand on 7th of February. I booked a long time ago when problems and the upcoming elections weren't even a subject. My plan is to spend three days in Bangkok before heading for the Philippines for a week and coming back to Thailand then to spend a week in Pattaya. Let me please ask the following questions:
- Have I understood correctly that the area of Nana, Sukhumvit 6 and 8 are still okay nowadays?
- Coming from Suvarnabhumi airport by taxi, going to a hotel in Sukhumvit 4, 6 or 8, will I have to confront with the same traffic as usual or is it heavier?
- Or does it make more sense to skip Bangkok and better go to Pattaya right away?
What I learnt from my last stay, according to a taxi driver, coming from Suvarnabhumi airport, it's better to go to the even Sois than uneven like for example Sukhumvit 7 (beer garden).
- Is that still the case because I assume that the exit "Sukhumvit" is busier because of the shut down?
Thanks a lot for your answers! I'd really appreciate to get the answers.By the 7th of next month it might be completely different than it is now. But for now there are no problems around the Suk area. None. Taxis have managed to figure out how to get in and out of the neighborhood. Traffic in Bangkok is probably lighter than ever because people are not driving. A few more hand grenades may change all this but the protests at Asoke today were still very friendly and it has partly turned into a street market to sell Bangkok Shutdown souvenirs. Tourists are way down but the girls are coming in because they need the money. Check back in two weeks because it is a fluid situation. But if you really want to be sure I would definitely go straight to Pattaya.
Member #4387
01-18-14, 12:38
By the 7th of next month it might be completely different than it is now. But for now there are no problems around the Suk area. None. Taxis have managed to figure out how to get in and out of the neighborhood. Traffic in Bangkok is probably lighter than ever because people are not driving. A few more hand grenades may change all this but the protests at Asoke today were still very friendly and it has partly turned into a street market to sell Bangkok Shutdown souvenirs. Tourists are way down but the girls are coming in because they need the money. Check back in two weeks because it is a fluid situation. But if you really want to be sure I would definitely go straight to Pattaya.Haha that is so funny they sell "shutdown souvenirs" allready. Well I am monitoring the situation rather closely. And I am thinking sometime late next week to hit BKK for a "normal" mongering spree doing my business in lower Suk. If the city is blasted to heaven I just stay put in Makati (or maby HKG). But nice to here there are no trouble whatsoever to get to convenient monger locations. Thank you for the heads up so far mr DRRonin.
FruitNinja
01-18-14, 13:32
Thanks for the laugh. You paid the equivalent of 6 USD and you were "really upset" that she was a novice. Ha ha. Thanks again.. At $6 I was getting one or two a day. It cost almost that much for a cup of coffee here in the states.
Thanks to DRRonin and Syzygies for your replies! It's true, things can be different in two weeks. Good is, that I've got a flight booked to Phuket on my day of arrival on 7th. So if things turn bad, I'll still be able to spend three days in Phuket before heading for the Philippines. But I like Bangkok and its lower Sukhumvit area for mongering. And I'd definitely loose less time by staying in Bangkok before going to the Philippines.
Not only that we don't know how things are going to be in two weeks. What if the protesters want to take over the airports in order to get what they want? I mean, if things don't change the way they are right now, the protesters will have to take more or other measures to get what they want. What do you guys think changes are that problems can occur at the airports?
What do you guys think changes are that problems can occur at the airports?We don't have crystal balls and cannot foresee airport problems. However it seems inevitable that the situation in Bangkok must deteriorate at some point. Its not going to just fade away. However now its still very meek and mild compared to the time of red-shirts' protests.
Calling a gathering "the mob" gives a bad impression. In Asoke they are not tightly packed in. Spread out thinly in many areas. I have no problem with mingling with them. In the past times of red-shirt action, I thought safer to stay away.
Taxis coming to Soi 23 by Cowboy to get passengers report traffic jam in the back Sois as they mostly enter at Soi 31 I think. Taxi cannot go into Soi 23 from Sukhumvit. Taxis exit Soi 23 to Sukhumvit and then there is little traffic.
PS: socks are available in many Sukh stalls, by the way.I'm glad you mention it. For the average guy, buying socks ranks right up there with taking out the garbage and cleaning the bathroom on the list of life's thankless chores. However, a well-planned, well-executed socks-buying mission can take care of all your lederhosen needs for a couple of years. Here's how to go about it.
First, take out all your shoes. Unless you're the kind of guy who wears purple polka-dot socks with black leather shoes, you'll want to at least nominally match your socks to your shoe ensemble. Take note of how many shoes you own, in which colors, and what color of socks would match them best. (For example, blue socks go well with dark brown shoes, and light brown socks with light brown shoes.) Next, make all your purchases in one store. The last thing you want to do is buy dress socks at a men's clothing store, gym socks at a sporting-goods store, and ordinary, everyday socks at your local retail store. See if there's a good outlet store in your area, or a department store that carries a variety of styles. Sure, you may have to visit different departments, but you'll only have to get out of your car once. Third, look for bargains. Most stores have promotions on socks, offering 3 pairs for $7 or $10. Before you load up your cart, feel the fabric and figure out if these socks will last more than 2 weeks (you'd be surprised how quickly a hole can develop in a cheaply woven sock). If you decide it's a good deal, get as many bundles as you can afford-it's not like your feet are going to grow. Remember, you don't want to shop for socks again any time soon. Also, buy 2 or 3 pairs of nice socks. It may seem criminal to spend $15 on a single pair of socks, but you can generally count on them lasting for a few years and looking spiffy along with your dress shoes. Make sure not to wear these socks while you're jogging or lounging around in your apartment-you want to preserve them for a special occasion. Finally, avoid white gym socks (unless you jog or belong to a gym). Remember those thick, white, dorky socks with the colored stripes on top that always fell down around your ankles in gym class? Unless you'd like to relive your elementary school days, act like an adult and opt for nice, solid colors like blue or brown. Remember, sneaker socks should only be worn with sneakers. ;.)
I'm glad you mention it. For the average guy, buying socks ranks right up there with taking out the garbage and cleaning the bathroom on the list of life's thankless chores. However, a well-planned, well-executed socks-buying mission can take care of all your lederhosen needs for a couple of years. Here's how to go about it.
First, take out all your shoes. Unless you're the kind of guy who wears purple polka-dot socks with black leather shoes, you'll want to at least nominally match your socks to your shoe ensemble. Take note of how many shoes you own, in which colors, and what color of socks would match them best. (For example, blue socks go well with dark brown shoes, and light brown socks with light brown shoes.) Next, make all your purchases in one store. The last thing you want to do is buy dress socks at a men's clothing store, gym socks at a sporting-goods store, and ordinary, everyday socks at your local retail store. See if there's a good outlet store in your area, or a department store that carries a variety of styles. Sure, you may have to visit different departments, but you'll only have to get out of your car once. Third, look for bargains. Most stores have promotions on socks, offering 3 pairs for $7 or $10. Before you load up your cart, feel the fabric and figure out if these socks will last more than 2 weeks (you'd be surprised how quickly a hole can develop in a cheaply woven sock). If you decide it's a good deal, get as many bundles as you can afford-it's not like your feet are going to grow. Remember, you don't want to shop for socks again any time soon. Also, buy 2 or 3 pairs of nice socks. It may seem criminal to spend $15 on a single pair of socks, but you can generally count on them lasting for a few years and looking spiffy along with your dress shoes. Make sure not to wear these socks while you're jogging or lounging around in your apartment-you want to preserve them for a special occasion. Finally, avoid white gym socks (unless you jog or belong to a gym). Remember those thick, white, dorky socks with the colored stripes on top that always fell down around your ankles in gym class? Unless you'd like to relive your elementary school days, act like an adult and opt for nice, solid colors like blue or brown. Remember, sneaker socks should only be worn with sneakers. ;.) Post of the decade!
Post of the decade!Should go on the RoD.
Calling a gathering "the mob" gives a bad impression. In Asoke they are not tightly packed in. Spread out thinly in many areas. I have no problem with mingling with them. In the past times of red-shirt action, I thought safer to stay away.There have been grenades thrown into the protestor areas. Some people criticly injured.
In another report a guy entering his office found a hole in the window & stray bullet lodged in the wall. This may have been on the 7th floor, if I recall.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/thai-protesters-march-defiant-grenade-attack-011139103.html
Post of the decade!So I guess that I ought not to wear my "Hello Kitty" polkadot socks with my patent leather shoes!
Fish N Chips
01-19-14, 10:57
Guys coming into town,
I live up country and plan to hit BKK early next month for a visa check-in.
Plan to leave the airport early AM 6 or 7 am on the train.
Can you give me a list of a few good early morning phishing spots, IE: biting around 6 to 8 am?
Then I'm off to my check-in & the rest of the day will be spent hunting as well.
Once the afternoon hits I'm good, just not that familiar with hunting that early.
Thanks
We don't have crystal balls and cannot foresee airport problems. However it seems inevitable that the situation in Bangkok must deteriorate at some point. Its not going to just fade away. However now its still very meek and mild compared to the time of red-shirts' protests.
Calling a gathering "the mob" gives a bad impression. In Asoke they are not tightly packed in. Spread out thinly in many areas. I have no problem with mingling with them. In the past times of red-shirt action, I thought safer to stay away.
Taxis coming to Soi 23 by Cowboy to get passengers report traffic jam in the back Sois as they mostly enter at Soi 31 I think. Taxi cannot go into Soi 23 from Sukhumvit. Taxis exit Soi 23 to Sukhumvit and then there is little traffic.Apparently another two hand grenades tossed at Victory Monument today and a bunch of people hurt. These could be random incidents or just a couple people causing trouble or something more organized. Impossible to say. But I think at this point I will stop visiting the protests. You don't want to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. On the other hand Climax was full to the rafters last night and the two go-go's I visited had a full retinue of girls and not a lot of customers.
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Not only that we don't know how things are going to be in two weeks. What if the protesters want to take over the airports in order to get what they want? I mean, if things don't change the way they are right now, the protesters will have to take more or other measures to get what they want. What do you guys think changes are that problems can occur at the airports?Last time, they shut down the Bangkok airports by physical occupation, which took quite a number of people.
I read, that this time they got clever and are planning to take over the Thai Air Traffic Control.
The Thai Air Traffic Control is located in an office building in the city (I believe) and it should not take more than a handful of people to occupy it.
If that happens there will be no civil air traffic to, from and over Thailand.
A classic stroke of genius!
I am due in BKK this coming Thursday, so I am keeping my fingers crossed!
Beer Monger
01-19-14, 14:14
Last time, they shut down the Bangkok airports by physical occupation, which took quite a number of people.
I read, that this time they got clever and are planning to take over the Thai Air Traffic Control.
The Thai Air Traffic Control is located in an office building in the city (I believe) and it should not take more than a handful of people to occupy it.
If that happens there will be no civil air traffic to, from and over Thailand.
A classic stroke of genius!
I am due in BKK this coming Thursday, so I am keeping my fingers crossed!Unfortunately for them, the reports I read said this won't work as the air traffic controllers have three remote sites up and running in case of a shut down. One step ahead. Guess these guys need to read "Art of War"
However, a well-planned, well-executed socks-buying mission can take care of all your lederhosen needs for a couple of years. Here's how to go about it.WTF? I guess you ain't German as lederhosen are not socks. Did you get shot by the spelling auto-corrector and actually wrote something else completely?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lederhosen
Back to mongering?
Beer Monger
01-19-14, 16:31
WTF? I guess you ain't German as lederhosen are not socks. Did you get shot by the spelling auto-corrector and actually wrote something else completely?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lederhosen
Back to mongering?So as long as it's your little group it's ok to go off topic and write ten posts about it? Guess I see how it works now. There may not be a rule about off topic posts, but there is one about posts that belittle people, which I see many of you 1, 000+ posters doing. Just amazing how petty you are.
Paul Kausch
01-19-14, 16:41
I read, that this time they got clever and are planning to take over the Thai Air Traffic Control.The Network of Students and People for Reform of Thailand (NSPRT) is the group that said it would shut down the air traffic control system. This would impact more than the airports. The system controls the entire Thai airspace. The People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) has said it is well aware of the consequences and will not allow this to happen. There were articles in the 13th and 14th January Bangkok Post reporting on this. I'm not sure this is something you need to worry about.
Fish N Chips
01-19-14, 17:36
Guys,
Coming into town next month for a visa check in, plan to leave the airport early AM 6 or 8 am.
Need a suggestion on some quick phishing locations, I know the afternoon locations but never went hunting this early in the morning.
Thanks
Last time, they shut down the Bangkok airports by physical occupation, which took quite a number of people.
I read, that this time they got clever and are planning to take over the Thai Air Traffic Control.
The Thai Air Traffic Control is located in an office building in the city (I believe) and it should not take more than a handful of people to occupy it.
If that happens there will be no civil air traffic to, from and over Thailand.
A classic stroke of genius!
I am due in BKK this coming Thursday, so I am keeping my fingers crossed!The ATC in the city? Thanks for the laugh.
Next time when you go to the airport look for a tall skinny round building with an all glass enclosure at the top. That, for the uninformed. Is the ATC tower.
So as long as it's your little group it's ok to go off topic and write ten posts about it? Guess I see how it works now. There may not be a rule about off topic posts, but there is one about posts that belittle people, which I see many of you 1, 000+ posters doing. Just amazing how petty you are.Now you've got it. Many with no earning or social skills and no other audience, those with hidden agendas with escorts agencies or other, haters and oh, of course the occasional mongering tip. Socks? Go figure.
The ATC in the city? Thanks for the laugh.He may have the last laugh as he's probably right. I don't know where BKK's air traffic controllers are but in New York the "tracon" as its called is on Long Island for the big 3 and the minors as well, Bostons's is in Merrimack, NH, etc.
You are confusing an airport control tower which mainly handles ground traffic and "air" issues within visual distance around the airport with a tracon responsible for airspace sequencing.
Better to stick to what you know (if anything).
Think again.
The ATC in the city? Thanks for the laugh.
Next time when you go to the airport look for a tall skinny round building with an all glass enclosure at the top. That, for the uninformed. Is the ATC tower.Probably the guy gets confused with the national aviation authority.
Occupying the Tower can generate disruptions in the airport, but the general air traffic, controlled by radars, is anyhow usually located elsewhere, very rarely in an airport.
The ATC in the city? Thanks for the laugh.
Next time when you go to the airport look for a tall skinny round building with an all glass enclosure at the top. That, for the uninformed. Is the ATC tower.The tower at the airport is for local control, inbound and outbound flights and ground movements.
National / International flights can be controlled anywhere. And not normally at the airport.
Paul Kausch
01-19-14, 19:47
The Network of Students and People for Reform of Thailand (NSPRT) is the group that said it would shut down the air traffic control system. This would impact more than the airports. The system controls the entire Thai airspace. The People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC) has said it is well aware of the consequences and will not allow this to happen. There were articles in the 13th and 14th January Bangkok Post reporting on this. I'm not sure this is something you need to worry about.
Probably the guy gets confused with the national aviation authority.
Occupying the Tower can generate disruptions in the airport, but the general air traffic, controlled by radars, is anyhow usually located elsewhere, very rarely in an airport.Yes, the students were planning to occupy the building that houses the Aeronautical Radio of Thailand, also the stock exchange building.
Monday jan. 20. I just arrived to Suvarnabhumi from EU this early midday. The airport was busy as always and things seemed to be business as usual. Went to the Public taxi counter to get a cab for my hotel in Sukh. Soi 19. I asked the lady aswell as the driver at the counter if they thought there would be any trouble driving to my destinantion and they said no. And there was no problems at all. As expected there is less traffic on Sukhumvit than normal. Actually no cars until soi 15 where the traffic got stucked.
Now its time to explore.
Monday jan. 20. I just arrived to Suvarnabhumi from EU this early midday. The airport was busy as always and things seemed to be business as usual. Went to the Public taxi counter to get a cab for my hotel in Sukh. Soi 19. I asked the lady aswell as the driver at the counter if they thought there would be any trouble driving to my destinantion and they said no. And there was no problems at all. As expected there is less traffic on Sukhumvit than normal. Actually no cars until soi 15 where the traffic got stucked.This is true. There is no problem to get to Soi 19. However leaving by taxi could be more difficult so you need to allow extra time to navigate back Soi traffic jams at certain times of day. Still the taxis that dropped you off had to leave too, so they would not drop you if they had no escape. Do they return back along Sukhumvit travelling on the wrong side of the road or forced to use back Sois?
OK, I stand corrected. Learned something new.
This is true. There is no problem to get to Soi 19. However leaving by taxi could be more difficult so you need to allow extra time to navigate back Soi traffic jams at certain times of day. Still the taxis that dropped you off had to leave too, so they would not drop you if they had no escape. Do they return back along Sukhumvit travelling on the wrong side of the road or forced to use back Sois?Inspecting entrance of Soi 19 today, I now see they have set up to turn right out of Soi 19, so no issues at all. Last year that was not possible. Also Taxis can U-turn in Sukhumvit at Soi 19.
Today decided to check out Nana Plaza. It gets started later than Soi Cowboy with bars opening at 8PM. However at 8. 30 neither Rainbow 1 or 2 had more than 3 girls dancing. Tried Mercury bar. The impressive pretty girl had a customer maybe Japanese already. A few good bodies, a few fatties, plenty of average faces. Moved to Billboard but very few girls.
Moved to Rainbow 4 and spotted the uncle of a friend. He used have a share in Midnight Upstairs bar in Cowboy nearly 25 years ago. That was the time I first BF-ed a go-go girl. RB4 had some fantastic figure natural girls, some pretty faces, but very few with both. Some fakish girls too, and of course many a hairdo with the fancy look for Japanese. The ancient uncle decided to move on. He had not decided to where. I also moved on, skipping a few bars with uglies or very few girls and then noticed Fantasia had a few better lookers. However then saw was a Coyote bar and Coyote dancing is boring for me. In fact many of the bars were boring to me because too many girls wearing bras. Girls with small breasts definitely look much better topless.
Finally stopped at Spanky's only because some of the girls were nude. Did not like their shows or the faked S&M stuff. The ancient uncle was there too. During the Horny Nurses show I spotted one girl with very good fakes to a large B cup. They almost curved the right way breasts should so I was impressed. However they did not bounce when she jiggled around during the show. That is the dead give-away if shape not that suspicious to your eye.
Spotted a girl whose face appealed, a very skinny type with very small breasts but nice ass and pretty shave pussy. Name was Faai (means cotton) number 10. Has teeth braces and a few belly stretch marks. Black straight hair. No more than 42 kilos.
I bought my scrawny girl a couple of tequila leg-openers (LOL really just to make her less shy). The lesbian show was unimpressive. I asked if my girl would like to find out how much better I can do the licking. I then suggested ST and she was happy. She did not discuss the price. This is a good sign the chemistry is going good. We had been joking round a lot. Used the ST Hotel upstairs as taking her to Bang Chak would have been difficult. Turned out to be a super fire cracker on the bed. We kissed deeply while molesting each other in the shower. On the bed more DFK, and started the DATY. Went for quite a while with her writhing around a bit. Eventually she suggested we switch to "hok-gao" (69). This also went for extended time. Then very nice mish with her obviously moving like having a great time. Tight pussy so only half penetration at the start gradually progressing to deep. Doggy was super too. Finished us both fucking from behind with her lying face down. Nice ass view and fabulous feel to her pussy. She was a really great fuck and into it big time. I believe we were in the ST room for nearly 2 hours so she was not in any rush to get the fucking over with. Highly recommended if you are into natural skinny girls with great ass, big lips, and a cute nose. Collected the phone number too. Seems she has been at Spanky's for 2 years. Her experience is excellent. Definite repeat girl to add to the super performers. Did not ask for anything kinky.
Don't understand why bargirls get such a bad reputation, although none of the RB4 girls really excited me enough perhaps as they all came across as too confident with that smirk on their faces, or the face body combination wasn't quite right. I like girls that start shy in the bar, loosen up with a couple of Tequilas, and then turn to a tiger on the bed.
Came out and got a burger. There were very girls in the Nana carpark. Mostly LBs. However the girls that were there were surprisingly good looking, in fact way higher standard than I ever witnessed there before although it has been a while. I don't understand what might have caused this marked improvement. Was around midnight. Several were very doable and I don't mean the LBs.
To get home took motorcycle to Soi 19, then walked across Asoke and collected a taxi at Soi 23 to head off to the East. A slight difficulty but not too serious.
Is any one else getting any mongering done? Ha Ha. I guess its a bit quiet, or maybe the mongers have no time to post.
Don't understand why bargirls get such a bad reputation.There were very girls in the Nana carpark. Mostly LBs. However the girls that were there were surprisingly good looking, in fact way higher standard than I ever witnessed there before although it has been a while. I don't understand what might have caused this marked improvement.Nothing has changed. It has always been that way and I swear by the quality and quantity Nana has to offer. In fact, I never even go to cowboy anymore as there are just too many coyotes for my liking. Check out the rarely mentioned Erotica both upstairs and down. They always have some talent and is my personal favorite.
And she may still be there.
Today decided to check out Nana Plaza. It gets started later than Soi Cowboy with bars opening at 8PM. However at 8. 30 neither Rainbow 1 or 2 had more than 3 girls dancing. Tried Mercury bar. The impressive pretty girl had a customer maybe Japanese already. A few good bodies, a few fatties, plenty of average faces. Moved to Billboard but very few girls.
Moved to Rainbow 4 and spotted the uncle of a friend. He used have a share in Midnight Upstairs bar in Cowboy nearly 25 years ago. That was the time I first BF-ed a go-go girl. RB4 had some fantastic figure natural girls, some pretty faces, but very few with both. Some fakish girls too, and of course many a hairdo with the fancy look for Japanese. The ancient uncle decided to move on. He had not decided to where. I also moved on, skipping a few bars with uglies or very few girls and then noticed Fantasia had a few better lookers. However then saw was a Coyote bar and Coyote dancing is boring for me. In fact many of the bars were boring to me because too many girls wearing bras. Girls with small breasts definitely look much better topless.
Finally stopped at Spanky's only because some of the girls were nude. Did not like their shows or the faked S&M stuff. The ancient uncle was there too. During the Horny Nurses show I spotted one girl with very good fakes to a large B cup. They almost curved the right way breasts should so I was impressed. However they did not bounce when she jiggled around during the show. That is the dead give-away if shape not that suspicious to your eye.
Spotted a girl whose face appealed, a very skinny type with very small breasts but nice ass and pretty shave pussy. Name was Faai (means cotton) number 10. Has teeth braces and a few belly stretch marks. Black straight hair. No more than 42 kilos...So don't keep us in suspense. How much did you give her for ST?
Today decided to check out Nana Plaza. It gets started later than Soi Cowboy with bars opening at 8PM. However at 8. 30 neither Rainbow 1 or 2 had more than 3 girls dancing. Tried Mercury bar. The impressive pretty girl had a customer maybe Japanese already. A few good bodies, a few fatties, plenty of average faces. Moved to Billboard but very few girls.
Is any one else getting any mongering done? Ha Ha. I guess its a bit quiet, or maybe the mongers have no time to post.Life is not fair!
Here I am on the other side of the world wishing for nothing else then to be in Bangkok to have fun.
And you are there just looking!
I think we better switch places!
T
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