Bangkok Reports

[Goatscrot]

Involved.

For electronics and computers, Pantip is the better option IMHO. MBK is rather helter skelter when you are looking for something, and although there are electronics (probably concentrated towards cell phones, although there are also camera shops, some computer offerings, and so forth) Pantip has a lot more. I have gone there to get my laptop memory upgraded (took about 5 minutes to purchase and have the seller install); for computer cables, camera batteries, and so forth. Although I don't have the information to price compare, I would be very surprised if prices at MBK beat those at Pantip. I also sometimes find the "walking around" experience at MBK a bit frenetic with all the people and the narrow aisles and so forth. Pantip less so.

In any event, Pantip is worth a trip just to look around if nothing else.Panthip is a butt-kicking. Go to Fortune Town. You will find just about everything you would find at Panthip, and you don't have to hassle with the crowds. It is right at the Rama IX MRT stop as well. Bonus- Head right across the street to Central Rama IX for some food and to gaze at women.

[LA Guy 5]

Involved. . .

I don't know how "Involved" ended up at the beginning of my last post. Must have been some bad editing or cutting / pasting. It should not have been there. Sorry about that.

[Syzygies]

Has anyone tried this girl?

http://reenabangkokescort.com

Any reviews??In Gallery, last 2 pics appear to show after the enhancement implants have been done, looking a little ridiculous. Earlier pics, the tits looked better (natural). If you like footballs, great.

[Wolvenvacht]

Has anyone tried this girl?

http://reenabangkokescort.com

Any reviews??A little internet search finds that she advertises on other independent escort sites as well. I don't know her but it all looks rather amateurish.

[Ralph Kramden]

Panthip is a butt-kicking. Go to Fortune Town. You will find just about everything you would find at Panthip, and you don't have to hassle with the crowds. It is right at the Rama IX MRT stop as well. Bonus- Head right across the street to Central Rama IX for some food and to gaze at women.I have also had good luck at Fortune Town. And if you are in the mood for a little boom boom after your shopping experience, Amsterdam is close by.

[ViajeroGringo]

First off, allow me to pass on my praise for Scorcher's report. Very well written, informative, and entertaining. Reports like this make it worthwhile to RTFF. I had limited time (3 days) and limited opportunity traveling with work colleagues, so I mixed advice for my trip from various sources.

My first evening, a Monday, I went to get measured for a suit at Nana; great excuse to break away from colleagues. My tailor has moved a few blocks to be close to the Skytrain, and from his shop, I couldn't find Nana Plaza, even though his old shop was right next door. After too much walking, decided to follow Scorcher to Nataree and hopped on MRT at rush hour for short ride up to Huay Kwang. Just the ride alone, squeezed into the car with all the beautiful Thai girls, was enough to get me started.

I got off the train at about 1900. Stepped into Emmanuelle for a peak but only 5 or so girls in the fishbowl, and none looked very good. Glad to know that better things might await me next door at Nataree. Well worth it. While there were only 5 or 6 choices in the fishbowl, there were about 30 sideliners, and it was very difficult to chose among the many pleasures. I went for a petite young thing that kept waving every time I glanced her way, since many of my other top picks seemed indifferent to my presence. There were several men helping with selections, but no pressure, and besides taking my order for water (tailor's beer was free) no requests that I buy him drinks or tips. He confirmed my choice saying she gave great head, and pointed me to the desk to pay the 2300 Baht for 90 minutes.

We went upstairs and started with bath. Much appreciated after long day in Thai heat and humidity. We skipped the soapy massage, and I wish I had asked. There were mattresses outside several rooms, and I'm sure she would have accommodated. I guess I was in too much of a hurry. After bath, moved to bed for very short BBBJ, with cover as end approached. I would rather skip covered BJ, so went straight to various positions, and enjoyed very much. (Some things should be left to your imagination.) She then gave me short massage, which I reciprocated. Sometimes, I would rather give a massage than get a mediocre one. Feeling her tiny, tight body in my hands got me ready for second round, and she was very helpful. I'm getting old and the second shot takes a lot of work, but she did her part. While Nataree could use a little updating, I have no complaints; she was great, and I got more than I expected. I look forward to my next visit. I would score the place 6 out of 10, and the girl, 8 out of 10.

Before leaving, I noticed that the sideliners had grown to almost 40 spread around the room, but still only 6 or 8 in the fishbowl. Had I had it in me, I would have stayed for another round. As I walked back to MRT, I did a little research for you all and stepped into Caesars, across the street. While the ambiance was a lot more upscale, there were only 6 older women in the fishbowl, and no sideliners. The place was empty, and I gladly walked out. I don't know how they stay in business with such excellent competition across the street.

The next day, I had my first suit fitting and really missed my soapy massage. I remembered the signs and recommendations for Dr. BJ's and the associated Dr. Nuru's, so found my way down the soi after a couple of gin and tonics at the tailor. There were much better looking women outside the other massage places, but I had ISG recommendations, so I kept walking. I'm glad I understood the difference be / w the nurses and the consultants at Dr. BJ's, but really didn't connect with either. The Mamasan explained the procedure, and it sounded like a lot of $$ for FS, especially knowing that Nataree was only a few train stops away. So I tried Dr. Nuru across the street. Nothing nearly as good as the best at Nataree, but I was tired, and was really curious about "Bangkok's only nuru massage". The Mamasan was pushing a really dark – skinned girl, and she was about the cutest of the 8, so I said ok, with low expectations. They were charging 2500 baht, and I was too tired to go anywhere else.

The room was very basic, and badly needed an update. No tub, and hand shower in the corner never really got hot even at low pressure. But, when she poured on the nuru lotion and started sliding her little tits across my back, my worries went away. The massage didn't last very long (my fault) and she went onto a covered BJ and FS. I enjoyed both, but disappointed that the 45 minutes approached too quickly. If you're in the neighborhood and too tired to go elsewhere, it is alright, but don't make it a destination. I would give the place a 4 out of 10 (too expensive for services offered) but the girl was 6 out of 10 – she did her job well, although the establishment limited her job.

After my final fitting, I finally found Nana Plaza. After dinner at a seafood place near Nana, I walked into Annie's for memories. Annie's was my first introduction to the sport over 12 years ago. I'm not sure if my standards have gone up or the choice has gone done, but very disappointing. I moved onto the Nana Plaza Bars.

I ducked into a few of the gogos, but was physically pulled into Casanova, one of the ladyboy shows. Yes, after a quick lady drink with one of the girls, I decided to lower my inhibitions, and we went to the hotel at the corner for a ST. I must say, she was the most enthusiastic of the trip, she was happy to do BBBJ, all the way to fruition, and that type of girl can't lie about her orgasm. I really wished I didn't have to work in the morning. She left me wanting more, though physically unable to do much. I had a couple of beers in different gogos, and then headed home.

The next day, I flew onto Cambodia, then to Laos and Vietnam. I'll post a Cambodia report in the correct forum, but no action in Lao or Vietnam, but problems on my side, not based on availability.

[BrandonKelly]

Dr. BJ's was first on my list of places to check out, as it was only 2 Soi down from my hotel. But a flight delay at NRT screwed me over and I didn't even get to check in until about 1 am. Total travel time was just under 23 hours. I walked over but the street was quiet and the place looked shuttered.

I went over the next day early afternoon and Nick presented the lineup to me. As many on the forum recommend, I went with the one who was beaming a smile and eyeball fucking me. It was W. Her picture on the website seems to be professional shots she had taken before her tenure at Dr BJ's.

Upstairs, I really like the washing up beforehand, because it's a mini handjob and for me it gets everything rigid and ready to go for the girl. They can do a lot more with a hard one from the start, and W. Was really talented. Lots of deep throat, spit and ball sucking were to be had. She's got a decent body and all exploring was welcome. After, she wanted LT but I wasn't ready to commit on my first full day in Bangkok. I'm glad I didn't because as expected, the jet lagged whipped my ass a few hours later. I told her I'the be back later, and to pick out a girl for her to double up with.

After sleeping for around 5 hours, I cleaned up and met W. Again around 10:30. She picked out one of the "glasses" girls who so happened to be her younger cousin, I found out later. As expected, they were very comfortable with each other and had no problems taking direction from me. Alternating between tag team and full-on double action, I made it about ten minutes before W. Took over to finish me off. I'm pretty sure the partner was X. , but it may have been H. She was really really good with technique, not too DT but sloppy and long strokes, no hand. She was more of a licker than a t-bagger, and they were close to meeting up mouths when W. Was manning the stick. It's too bad the next time I went in the partner was busy with another customer, or I would have repeated that experience for sure.

I would have liked to try out a few other girls there but I think W. Would have been expecting me to take her each time. That being said, I moved on to **** for the next two sessions with "Nam" which of course is all the girls' names at like every place. She's tall and skinny and looked to be 18, but probably is older. Upstairs at **** is merely partitioned love seats, illuminated by red stage light. Both times I visited I was the only one there. She took a lady drink (Fanta) the first time but not the second.

Nam is cute for sure and gives good effort in her BJ, but it was really nothing to write home about. She only takes the head and uses her hand for the rest. Even so, the technique was very effective and she added appropriate moans and slurps which greatly helped things. She looked cute under the very bright lights up there so I left happy and ready to repeat with her in the morning.

BTW, the girls at **** BK were way better looking than the one in Pattaya. And that's really not a compliment.

[Bunky]

Thanks much to everybody who weighed in. As a two-week millionaire, I have to rely on the Old Asia Hands for detailed knowledge that comes only with experience.


For electronics and computers, Pantip is the better option IMHO. MBK is rather helter skelter when you are looking for something. I also sometimes find the "walking around" experience at MBK a bit frenetic with all the people and the narrow aisles and so forth. Pantip less so.

The first few times I shopped at the MBK Center I didn't mind its haphazard arrangement. I enjoyed wandering the narrow aisles, getting jostled by the other patrons, never knowing what curious electro-gimcrack would turn up in the next stall. (For example, a cell phone that looked like it was built in 1985, but fully functional on the modern network.) I also like how tiny stalls selling food were interspersed among the stall hawking gadgets.

But the past few visits I was less enamored of MBK, which started to seem like nothing but crowds, chaos and confusion. As an infrequent patron I got lost easily and it was always a struggle to find that one good stall where I had found what I wanted two years ago. Finally, as others have noted, MBK emphasizes all things cell phone and that's not really something I'm interested in as a visitor.

I will definitely check out Pantip, especially now that I know I can combine electronic shopping with certain naughty boy pursuits.

Bunky

[Oliver Kitsoff]

First off, allow me to pass on my praise for Scorcher's report. Very well written, informative, and entertaining. Reports like this make it worthwhile to RTFF. I had limited time (3 days) and limited opportunity traveling with work colleagues, so I mixed advice for my trip from various sources.

I ducked into a few of the gogos, but was physically pulled into Casanova, one of the ladyboy shows. Yes, after a quick lady drink with one of the girls, I decided to lower my inhibitions, and we went to the hotel at the corner for a ST. I must say, she was the most enthusiastic of the trip, she was happy to do BBBJ, all the way to fruition, and that type of girl can't lie about her orgasm. I really wished I didn't have to work in the morning. She left me wanting more, though physically unable to do much. I had a couple of beers in different gogos, and then headed home.

The next day, I flew onto Cambodia, then to Laos and Vietnam. I'll post a Cambodia report in the correct forum, but no action in Lao or Vietnam, but problems on my side, not based on availability.Good report ViajeroGringo.

I am not sure LB activities are condoned here, which I think is a litttle regressive for a community of professed sex hobbyists, but. The straight -and narrow- punters are the 'moral' majority, and that needs to be respected. Some guys won't even admit to a female giving them a prostrate massage, and it's a damn shame, because, man, that shit rocks your orgasm to another level, and Tom Byron is a fan, and John Stagliano, Joey Silvera, all porn legends, are freaks of note too. IMHO there really is nothing wrong with it. The Romans were into all this crossover shit big time, and they were no panty-waists either. Anyway, thanks for the report, and if you do want to explore further there are some excellent sites devoted to BKKs finest looking 'ladies' (and awesome providers) with a twist, on google. Enjoy.

[Member #4698]

Day 29 Thursday March 27,2014 Bangkok Day 13 (Semi Monogamy) Part 2:

After my EZ 1 massage I went back to the hotel and relaxed for an hour by the pool. Upon returning to my room, I found a text message from M telling me that her "Insurin" friend was back in town and wondering if I wanted to have BBQ dinner with them. I called her back and we agreed on Family BBQ near her apartment in about an hour, so I got my shit together and took a taxi over to Ramkhamhaeng. M said she had a surprise for me.

When I arrived at the restaurant, M was already seated at a table and I saw someone had ordered a small bottle of Whiskey and tonic water. M is not a whiskey girl and I dislike most whiskey except good Scotch so I wondered who could have ordered the booze. I said Hello, to M and I sat down at the table. M tells me that she does not have to show up for "Insurin" training until 10 am the next day so she can stay out late.

A short time later someone comes up from behind and starts hugging me. It is G! That was M's surprise; G was back in town! And she is very happy to see me again. G is another member of the entourage, a former Baccara dancer, who recently married her Canadian customer around 6 months ago and has since "quit" the business. Ha Ha Ha. She missed M's birthday party because she has been back home living in Isaan since getting hitched. M had showed me pictures of the wedding. M, Be, P, and De were all bridesmaids. G was in BKK now to arrange a visa to join her husband in Canada. I always liked G. She is a super friendly girl and exudes sensuality with every breath. While she is not a beauty, there is always something about her that is sexually charged and very attractive. She is a natural born guy magnate. She has a very sexy smile and I am sure she has made many customers happy over the years.

I ordered a beer and the girls started to cook our meal at the table. A short time later P gets out of a taxi and joins us. She is feeling much better now, thank you, her tummy is ok and she is famished. Another 20 minutes goes by and guess who, De joins the party and the gang is all here, except Be. Unfortunately, I did not see much of her this trip.

The dinner party goes on and on. The girls keep bringing more food to cook. I really don't know where these Thai girls can put all the food they eat: shrimp, various shell fish by the dozens, chicken, beef, pork, vegetables, hot, hot som tam with tarantula 555, and so much more. And we keep drinking all the while too. So dinner turned out to be a fun gathering.

Towards the end of our meal, the girl's favorite soap comes on Restaurant TV, I think it is called "Not with My Husband" or something like that and it is hysterical. The girls love to laugh and curse with every new pitfall and tragedy that strikes the forlorn lovers. They love to hate the beautiful villainous Thai girl who perpetually tries to steal the naive husband away from the virtuous and innocent bride. I quickly settled the bill which was quite reasonable considering all the food and drink consumed. A commercial break comes on the TV and the girls run to M's apartment to see the show better from there.

Nn shows up having just finished her insurance job, the one M is training for. She stays in M's apartment when she is in BKK. So there I am again, lying on M's bed which is the only place in her apartment to sit with 5 girls laying all around me and taking care of me, doing their makeup, playing video games, texting, and of course watching "Not with My Husband". I love this stuff and being part of the entourage.

M asks me if I mind going to Baccara later to barfine her. Her mamasan has been on her case. She also says there is a nudie show there later. I pretend to ponder whether I want to barfine M or not. She faux hits my arm with her little fist and laughs. M then invites her straight friend, Nn, the "Insurin" girl, who has never been to Baccara to join the party. NN has never been to Cowboy and wants to see the place. I privately advise M that it is probably not a good idea to invite her straight friend to Baccara to see what goes on there, but my western logic seems lost on M. I also begin to wonder how and why Nn can hang around with all these Baccara working girls since she is married and working a straight job. M later explains to me that all these girls know each other from Isaan since childhood and they all went to school together and grew up in the same small town. AH! That explains a lot especially the close knit supportive group structure these girls have with one another. So after the soap ends on another cliffhanger with the evil girl having just given the idiot husband a mickey so she can climb into bed with him and they can be caught later together in a compromising situation by the good wife; we all go downstairs and pile into a taxi headed for Baccara.

The Baccara Party:

We arrived at Soi Cowboy and I watched with amusement the look on Nn's face as she takes in all of Cowboy and then Baccara itself. She looks a little amazed and lost, but she is with friends. At Baccara the friendly fat waitresses can't find enough space for our posse on the ground floor so we go upstairs. In the back there is some room on a you-shaped couch in the corner, but we must share part of the space with 3 Japanese guys. The look on their faces when they saw our entourage consisting of a sole American punter, your humble narrator, with 5 girls was priceless. One Japanese guy's jaw seemed to drop to the floor. 555. It was very funny. To keep things lively, I ordered a round of Tequila for everybody except M and Nn who preferred beer and ice. Because G was in the entourage making a rare visit back to Baccara since getting married, many girls kept coming to our table to say Hello. G is not only popular with customers, but she also has a lot of friends here as well. After a 2nd round of Tequilas, the fat waitress came by to tell us that two tables had been found down on the 1st floor and we moved the party down there right in front of the stage.

After we settled into our front row seats, I looked over and saw Nn was transfixed by all she saw, but there was no sign of looking down on it, disapproval, or disdain from her. She was just amazed. G leaned over to me and pointed out a girl dancing in a corner of stage all by herself in front of a mirror. G gave me one of her sultry / sexy smiles and said she thought that girl was REALLY SEXY. Although this girl was not my type, I could see what G was talking about. The girl was dancing very erotically as opposed to all the other girls on stage that were merely doing the Baccara shuffle. G became fixated on the dancing girl and told me she was really turned on by that girl. I didn't know what to make of her admission. Was G really serious and turned on or what? I don't know, but then G turned around and bought the girl, with G's own money, 2 shots of Tequila, essentially barfining the sexy dancer. The dancer smiled at G and knocked back both shots while she was still on stage. G approached the dancer and they start talking very privately.

Meanwhile M apparently not aware of what G is up to, was sitting on my lap, sipping her beer and occasionally giving me a kiss. Aey2010 spotted me with my entourage and gave me another one of her sexy "invite me over too looks", but I shook my head and pantomime, "CAN NOT maybe later" and she nodded her head and smiled. After her set, G's sexy dancer came over to where we were all sitting and she and G are fast at it in a private close together conversation. All this is going on while scores of dancers are shuffling on stage and drinking with customers in booths and tables, right in front of "Insurin" girl, who still has this semi-permanent amazed and amused look on her face. I laugh to myself. It is all too much! I love BKK. I ordered another round of drinks for everybody including G's new girlfriend and the fat waitress. The mamasan came by to say Hello, and I buy her a drink too. The mamasan knows me and occasionally it is smart to pay her respect by buying her a drink. I want her to give M as much leeway as possible while I am still in town.

Then the hour strikes and it is time for the 2nd nudie show of the evening and a little choreographed entertainment. The show ends at around 1:30 am. M whispers in my ear that she wants to boom boom. So I ask the fat waitress for the bill. Oops, I am short of funds, but my Capital One Visa card is in my wallet. I never leave home without it. 555. It features 2% points back and no FX transaction fees. M and I take our leave and say goodbye. Everybody is having a real good time and thanks me for making it happen. No problem girls. It was my pleasure.

Back at the hotel, M is like a little tiger tonight. We fool around in the shower and then I dry off and I lay down on top of the bed buck naked. M comes into the bedroom with a towel wrapped around her body. She throws me a big smile and yanks the towel off with one thrust. Then she gives me her SZZZZZZZZZ hot sign as she touches her finger to her ass, and dives on top of me in bed. We start kissing and then she starts cat licking her way down to my dick where she stops and gives me a very passionate BBBJ. Then she gets on top and impales herself on my dick. When I am completely inside her, she says, and I swear this is true; "Mak, you so big tonight!" and we get going into some great cowgirl. For some reason I am really into her tonight, more than usual, and after M exhausts herself on top, I roll her over and finish her off with some missionary work.

After boom boom M says again that I was "real big tonight. " I still don't know what to make of that. Maybe she meant I was really turned on tonight and particularly passionate which was certainly true. But then she startles me by asking, "Have you been to "massager" today? Is that why you so big?" and I say, "No baby". And she says, "What you do today?" And I respond, "I just walk around and swim in pool. " And she looks me close up, straight in the eyes, and says, "Sure?" and I reply, "Sure" and that was the end of that line of conversation. It's uncanny, though, that she hit the nail right on the head. She was right. Hot P from EZ 1 really wound me up good today. That prostrate massage and shag was downright stimulating, but I still don't know what to make about M asking if I got a 'massager" today. Was it just a lucky guess, a blind coincidence, or was I spotted by one of her friends on Soi 24 today? Who knows?

It was around 3:30 am when I escorted M down to the lobby and she got a taxi to go home. According to her, she had "Insurin" training at 10 am this morning so not to worry. LOL. She will get up a 9 am. She waves as the taxi takes her away and I go back up to my room, swill down a can of coke light, and pass out on my bed. I think this was one of my best days in BKK so far this trip with the EZ massage with P in the afternoon, dinner BBQ with the girls, the party at Baccara, and really great sex with M to cap it all off. And I still had two more days in the big Mango before my 3 day getaway in Pattaya.

[Member #4698]

Day 30 Friday March 28,2014 Bangkok Day 14 (Semi Monogamy):

EZ 1:

It was a quiet morning. I had my morning skinny double latte and an almond croissant at the pastry shop inside the Marriott Thonglor. My desire to see P again got stronger as the morning went along. I wondered if she could top her performance of the previous afternoon or if things could become a little more GFE the 2nd time. So by around 2 pm, I couldn't hold out any longer and I went back early to EZ1. P was not there however, but the receptionist said she would be there around 4. There were only 3 other girls to choose from at this time. One girl, I forget her name was attractive, but I wanted P. So the hostess suggested I make a reservation for 3 pm and she called P to confirm.

I left EZ 1, caught the BTS to the Terminal 21 mall, and had some good noodle soap and a mango smoothie for lunch at the food court. I returned to EZ1 around 2:50 pm and P was waiting for me. She smiled and off we went. P seemed a little more friendly this time in the shower and I soaped her up and we body massaged each other. After she thoroughly cleaned me and dried me off, I laid down on the bed naked and waited for P to come to bed. She then joined me and asked what I wanted. I said everything. I want you and she gave me a knowing faint smile.

She began with a back massage and then front massage like yesterday. I just relaxed and let her do her thing knowing that the good stuff was coming. She then asked if I wanted a body to body massage and I said yes. Her technique was very good. She made long slow circular movements with her body which allowed me to kiss her neck and lips every time she completed her circular trip. Then she sat up and began to give me her amazing thigh massage (oily HJ). Again this was one of the highlights of being with this girl. She really knows how to give pleasure to a cock with her hands and slowly, very slowly, she inserted her finger into my a-hole while still caressing my dick with her other hand. Like yesterday she almost took me to orgasm, but I held off and said it was time for boom boom.

She got on top and inserted my dick into her vagina again like yesterday. And it felt great. At some point I sat up and we started to have sitting position sex. Now some girls are not that good at this position. They don't know what to do and leave it up to the man, but P is great at it. She knows just where to sit and how to move. I looked down and could see my dick going in and out of her pussy. It was a great ride and it really turned me on. After a while, I gently laid P on her back and finished her off in mish. It was a great session, although very similar to yesterday's one. Maybe it was my fault for not requesting something new when P asked what I wanted at the beginning of the session. Not that I am complaining, but I think P is probably capable of a lot more. I look forward to exploring new territory with her when I return to BKK next year. I do not think of my two sessions with P as a GFE, although P was friendly and she definitely aimed to please, she was also reserved and somewhat quiet. Thus my sessions with her seemed to be more technically designed and excellently performed choreography. She is not a wild girl, but she is very good at what she does. This might not please everyone, but I enjoyed my time with her a lot and I think there may be more Kama Sutra-esque ways to explore with this girl. Afterwards, we showered and I took some more pictures. P is reserved about nude photography. I think next time I may take her for an outcall and see what happens. I tipped her 300 bt for her excellent service. I told her I was leaving BKK for few days, but I would try to look her up again when I came back to town.

It was around 4:45 pm when I got back to my hotel, too late for an afternoon swim because M had called and left a message saying she was getting off work soon and she wondered if it was ok if she came by my hotel right after she was done with her "Insurin" training. I called her back and told her to come on by. Then I worked on some emails in the intervening time.

Semi Monogamy:

M arrived around 5:45 pm and we sat in the living room sipping fresh juice and talked about many things including the crazy night we had at Baccara. I brought up G's attraction to one of the dancers, but M maintained that nothing was going on with G and the sexy dancer, but I begged to differ. I pointed out to M that G had bought the two drinks for the girl and how "beautiful" (her words, not mine) G had described the girl to me. I then asked M if G loved her new Canadian husband and her answer was priceless. M said, "G loves her husband (pause) a little bit. " Then she smiled and gestured how much she thought G loved her new husband with her forefinger and thumb spaced about an inch and a half apart. 555. I laughed. But M quickly added that the new husband had given an appropriate sin sod to the family for his bride and paid all the family debts, so they considered him a good catch. Outstanding! I could not of have said it better.

Now M had been planning an outing for us and her friends on Saturday to go to fishing in the country. Apparently the girls knew of some beautiful natural park outside of BKK where there was a lake with boats to rent, cold beer to drink, and lots of food to eat. A Thai country picnic with 5 girls sounded like a lot of fun and I was kind of looking forward to this excursion, but unfortunately M now told me that she could not go fishing this Saturday because of another "Insurin" workshop. She really wanted to go and was thinking of playing hooky and cutting out of her apprenticeship work schedule, but I advised her not to do that. I cautioned her that she has put a lot of time and effort into getting this new job, but she has not yet been hired, so it is very important that she do everything they want now. Her insurance friend, and had told her pretty much the same thing, so M decided to go to work and not go fishing.

P and G have both told M that they can pick me up tomorrow morning and take me with them if I still want to go fishing without M. It sounds interesting, but I play the boyfriend and tell M no, I will stay in BKK and not go to the country with the girls. I tell M to thank them for the offer, but I would rather stay in town and see her as soon as she gets off work. M smiles. I have said the right thing. I am such a good man! LOL.

Now it is my turn to lower the boom and tell M something she did not know. She was under the impression that I was staying in BKK until April 6 when I fly to Macau. Actually I am leaving BKK Sunday for a 3 day getaway in Pattaya and then I will return and spend my last 3 nights in BKK. M has her own plans to visit her family on April 3 so that gives us only one last night together after I come back to BKK and it leaves me with 3 nights on my own, sans M, in the big Mango. This sounds real good to me by the way. Although I love my time with M, I am keenly away of the lost opportunities I have suffered as a result of my semi monogamy with her.

In any case, I tell M that I am leaving BKK and going to Ko Chang, not Pattaya, for 3 days. Yes, I am a deceiver. And double yes, there really is no reason why I choose to deceive M about Pattaya other than to keep the GFE fantasy whole. I definitely could have told her straight up I was going to Pattaya and she would have accepted it. She knows I fool around, I know she works in a Go Go, but like I said, my relation with her is partly a GFE fantasy which I enjoy greatly and so I try to keep it alive. At first M asks if she can come with me to Ko Chang. And I think that would not be a bad idea at any other time, if I were actually going Ko Chang or did not have hotel reservations in Pattaya. I will keep that in mind for my next trip. But, then M remembers she has more "Insurin" workshops, so she can't go and everything is settled.

Discussions over; M tells me she hasn't eaten all day and is very hungry. Yesterday she had mentioned she likes MK Suki style Chinese restaurants and I promised to take her to a very good one tonight; the MK Gold restaurant on Ekkamai. It is now around 6:30 so we head off to dinner. At MK Gold we discuss the large menu and I let M make most of the selections of herbs and greens. She asks if I want fish yes, beef or pork I say up to you, BBQ Duck yes, vegetables, mushrooms yes, yes and we have made our selection. The food items are brought to our table and M cooks our dinner. Her first job was working a food cart in Pattaya and she enjoys cooking for me. She always places a piece of meat or fish in my bowel first. Then I break it in two and place a piece in her bowel. Our Suki style dinner was great. MK Gold is a first class restaurant. The thecor is very stylish and all the food ingredients are top quality. M and I down two beers while enjoying our meal.

After dinner we walked back to the hotel for a little night time swim in the pool. We had the entire pool area completely to ourselves and we had a really good time playing around. It is a good thing we learned from our previous night's pool adventure and remembered to bring two hotel bathrobes with us because even though it is balmy at night in BKK, it feels cold when you get out of the warm pool all wet. M played some romantic Thai love songs on her cell phone and we lied together on one lounge chair. It was a good time.

We headed back up to my room, showered, and now it was massage time. M said she is not used to sitting at a desk and she really needed me to give her a solid back and neck massage which I am more than willing to do except that I can't help myself and I often let my hands wander over to her various erogenous zones to fondle her boobs or ass "American" massage style or I drop down to kiss her vagina or something else "American" and bad. It is a running joke between us and M always says "Mak, Thai massage, not "American" massage and I always respond by saying, "yes this is a Thai massage" as I continue to do something naughty to her and we both break out laughing. Then I go back to giving her a normal massage until the next time my hands wander.

After I finish M's massage, She gave me a back massage and even walked on my legs and lower back. I turned over on my back and we started making out. M slowly cat licked and kissed her way down to my dick and then she smoked me. I am too lazy tonight to reciprocate and go down on her. No matter. M is on fire and soon impales herself on my dick and off we go. She has an orgasm while riding me and then I rolled her over and finish up in mish.

Afterwards it is shower cleanup time and then we relax a little on the bed watching some TV. It is still early, but M tells me her sister is arriving in town tonight and she must go back to her apartment to let her in. It is 11:30 pm. I begin to put on my socks and shoes in order to escort M down to the lobby. Sometimes when I am just going to take her down to a taxi and I don't feel like going out, I just put on the house slippers, so noticing I am putting on socks and shoes this time, M asks, "why you put on shoes" and I tell her it is early and I don't feel like going to bed. She then asks, "Where you go?" and I say I don't know. To which she asks again with a wicked little smile "where you go, Baccara?" and I say no, I don't think so. Maybe I go Crazy House. And M says, "Why you go Crazy House? You want a girl?" And I say no. No more girls. I just want to get a drink and listen to music. So M again tries to steer me to Baccara and says, "the and P are at Baccara. You go Baccara. They take care of you" I say ok, maybe I go Baccara. Then M says and I love this, "if you want another lady, it ok, only take her to ST hotel, not here. OK?" And I assure her, no more ladies tonight. You my lady. I am such a gentleman! 555, but it is the truth more or less. Pammy and M are enough ladies for me today. I am not looking for another girl tonight. I just want to get a drink and do some scouting. So M is assured I am not going out looking for another lady and we kiss and joke around a little.

I escort her downstairs to get a taxi, but there are no free taxis. We wait a good 10 minutes in the Marriott lobby and nothing. Then we head out to Thonglor and Sukhumvit, a major intersection and wait another 10 minutes and still no free taxis. Meanwhile M has gotten two calls from her sister asking where she is. The sister does not have a key to the apartment. M tells her to go to Family BBQ restaurant across the street and get some food. M finally decides she can't wait any longer and reluctantly decides to take motorcycle taxi back home. We stand in cue on Thonglor for another few minutes and then her turn comes, we kiss, say good night and she is off.

I jump on the next available motorcycle taxi and go to Soi Cowboy. First I have a drink at Crazy House. I look around, but do not see A, the girl I barfined about a week ago, but I do like looking at some of the naked girls here. They have a couple of hot ones plus this is a lively bar. I finish my beer and move on to Shark. I don't see any girls here that interest me and the place is not as lively as Crazy House. Since Baccara is right next door to Shark, I walk over and see an attractive hostess girl sitting outside the bar. I order a beer and the girl comes over to say Hello,. She is very pretty; better looking than many of the dancers inside IMHO. Her name is Mae. She said she is 30. She spoke educated English. I offered her a drink and she ordered a whiskey and soda. We talked. She said she only worked in Baccara a short time to make ends meet. She says her sister owns a travel agency which operates guided tours throughout Thailand and she works there when business is good, but lately they have had some problems due to the demonstrations and the low volume of tourists. I looked at her closely; I liked what I saw, and imagined she would be a lot of fun on a trip to the hill country. Anyway, we had a couple drinks, I enjoyed her company, and she gave me her number for another time. And that was it. I called it a night.

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Day 31 Saturday March 29,2014 Bangkok Day 15 (Semi Monogamy):

I took it real easy this morning, but around lunch time I decided it was time to go somewhere really great so I headed over to Bussaracum Restaurant in the Silom neighborhood. It is easy to get there. Just take the Silom BTS line to Surasak Station. Exit the station on the north side of Sathon Tai Road. Head west towards the river until you come to Soi Surasak, turn right going north until you come to the next side street which is Si Wiang and hang another right. Bussaracum is halfway down the block. Believe me it is worth the effort to come here if you love 5 star classical, gourmet, fine, Thai dining.

Lunch at the restaurant is informal and remarkably not very expensive considering the quality. I had the Larb Lanna Moo (northern style minced pork with mint and herbs), and a variation on Gaeng Kiew Waan Gai (green curry with chicken), a mango smoothie, and a bottle of water for 640 bt total. There is also a mini degustation menu or tasting menu available for lunch only which offers 6 various combinations of items off the main menu for 500 bt. It is a great option. This is one of my all-time favorite BKK restaurants. It is also a great place to take a girl on a date.

http://www.bussaracum.com/

After lunch I walked up Silom Road past what Prasri Maha Umathewee, a Hindu temple, all the way to Patpong. It was a good walk although I was soaked with perspiration by the time I reached the Silom station and caught a ride back to Thonglor. Once I got back home, I headed straight for the pool to cool off and relax.

Around 4 pm, M called and told me she had an "Insurin" dinner party which she had to attend and she could not see me until late. She also told me Soi Cowboy would be closed yet again for some reason. No big deal. I started thinking about going back to La Belle or possibly checking out Thermae or something.

I had a tasty cheap dinner at one of the Soi 38 food stalls. After dinner I went to Cowboy and indeed it was closed. It was too early for Thermae and I didn't really feel like going to Nana since it was almost a certainty it would be closed as well. So I walked around the T 21 mall and debated whether to go to La Belle. In the end I decided to take it easy tonight and head back to the hotel. I went up to the roof top bar where I had a couple of glasses of Oregon State Pinot Noir while I admired the skyline view. Frankly I didn't care if I got laid or not tonight.

Then around 11 pm, M called and asked, "What I do?" She was finished with her "Insurin" dinner and wanted to come over. I told her to come by and 30 minutes later she phoned that she was in the lobby. I picked her up and we went back upstairs where we watched "Dark Shadows" with Thai subtitles on the bed. It is a dumb movie, but funny in parts and we had a few laughs. We were both tired from the long day and sort of just laid on each other as we watched TV. After the movie we had a soapy shower and I massaged her pussy. Back on the bed I gave M a massage for a little while and then she massaged me. Pretty soon we started making out and then M went down to smoke me. I turned her around and we got into a 69 position. Then we boom boomed. Since I was leaving BKK for 3 days, M wanted to spend the night. We fell asleep in each other's arms.

I woke up early the next day with a hard on. M was still wrapped around me. I pressed my woodie against her thigh and gave her few light kisses. She looked up at me through half closed eyes, smiled, and yawned. She turned on her side holding my arm around her breasts and then opened her leg slightly. My dick was now in contact with her vagina and it just slid right in.

Afterwards we had a couple more hours of sleep until we both woke up and had to face the day. It was around 10 am when we finally got around to taking a shower together. Down at the pastry shop I bought M a chocolate croissant and tea while I had a cinnamon muffin and double shot skinny latte. I told M that I would text her later after I get settled in my new hotel. She asked me to be a good boy. 555. I told her no problem. I would be good. Then we said goodbye until we meet again in 3 days. I saw her off in a taxi and I went back upstairs to pack. I had VR Taxi Private Limousine service scheduled to pick me up at noon to take me to Pattaya that gem by the sea. I was really looking forward to the next 3 days.

Note: I will continue the trip report in the Pattaya Forum.

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Day 35 Wednesday April 2, 2014 Back in BKK Day 1:

Mr. Keuk's female driver was waiting for me when I checked out of my hotel at around 11 am. The drive to BKK was uneventful and I slept most of the way. For the night's lodging I had applied my Chase Marriott Visa card's anniversary voucher and checked into the Renaissance Hotel gratis. I was given an upgraded room on the top floor because of my gold member status with Marriott. The Renaissance is a very upscale modern hotel in the Siam Square Ratchaprasong neighborhood. I like everything about this hotel except its location which isn't quite conducive to my usual nighttime activities. However it is only two BTS stops away from Nana, one BTS stop from Patpong in the other direction, next door to Spasso, and right across the street from Mixx, so I enjoy, what has become for the past 3 years, my annual free night here.

My room was not ready yet so I had lunch at Renaissance restaurant on the 2nd floor. After my suitcase was delivered to my room I went out and fooled around in the neighborhood. At around 3 pm, I called M and told her I was back in town. She was happy to hear from me and asked if I had a good time in Ko Chang. I told her I had a good time, but that I missed her. She said she missed me too. She said she was at her "Insurin" job until 6 pm and we made a date to meet at Baccara around 8 pm. I spent the rest of the afternoon relaxing up at the pool.

Around 8 pm I headed to Cowboy. M texted me that she was stuck in a taxi in traffic and was approximately 20 minutes away. To kill a little time I went to Suzi Wongs. I bought a coke light and spotted a sexy little spinner with an amazing body. As soon as I saw Mn dancing topless on stage, and she smiled at me, it was love at first sight on my part and I knew I wanted her! There was no question about it. Mn was an absolute knockout. She was easily the most attractive girl I had ever seen in Suzi Wong. She had a beautiful face, a killer spinner body, fabulous small round ta ta's, and my initial impression was that she seemed to have an equally nice warm personality. She flashed me a big smile and I invited her over for a drink. She said she was from Cambodia. She reminded me a little of Vin, the Oasis hostess girl I had romanced earlier in my trip in Phnom Penh. (I will post my Phnom Penh trip report shortly.) Both girls had a similar look although I think Mn was even hotter.

We talked a little and she had an upbeat friendly personality. She asked if I wanted to barfine her. I said yes, but then explained my situation. Mn smiled coyly and suggested we go upstairs for a quickie. I was really tempted, but with M due to arrive in just minutes; I knew I just couldn't get away with it and so I had to man up and act responsibly. I tried to make a date with Mn for Thursday night, but she told me that she was off Thursday and Friday. What a drag. I really wanted this girl and I was leaving BKK early Sunday morning for Macau. That left open only Saturday night for a possible rendezvous. It did not look good. Anyway, I told Mn I would come back to see her Saturday. Her knowing smile conveyed an awareness that sometimes things just don't work out the way you want and she was right. It was not to be. So Mn sadly is the #1 girl of my entire trip that got away. Black Hair from Sensations Go Go in Pattaya and the Vietnamese girl from the Alexis Hotel in Jakarta are the #2 and #3 girls that got away this trip.

A fellow highly respected BKK punter knows Mn well and after talking to him privately I confirmed that his Nn is the same sweet girl I perchance met this night. I am not at liberty to post a photo of her, but believe me guys; she is super sexy and is the epitome of the type of girl I go for. I wouldn't have spent the last 3 paragraphs talking about this girl; if she were not really hot and I did not hugely regret not having her. She is a very popular girl at SW and not often available. I had my chance, but our stars were not aligned, maybe next year.

Anyway 30 minutes had gone by and I texted M to find out where she was and she replied she was still in taxi, so I headed over to Crazy House to kill some more time. I like some of the CH girls a lot. I did not see my former lover, but there were plenty of smiling girls to take her place. The Mama saw me sitting alone and tried to fix me up with a young red head, but I politely declined the invitation. Crazy House is a great bar IMHO. M finally called and asked where I was. She said she was standing on Soi 23 outside the 7/11. I walked out of Crazy House and I immediately saw her standing directly across the Soi. She saw me too and gave me a naughty smile. It was nice to see her again. We kissed Hello, and she asked me coyly, "what you do in NEW BAR?" That's the name she calls Crazy House, New Bar. I told her I was just having a drink and waiting for her. She asked me if there are a lot of girls in there and I told her not as many as Baccara, but they have some sexy topless girls there.

M asked if it was ok we go to Baccara and get a drink. This meant a barfine tonight, but I am a nice guy and did not object. We ordered two beers. M looked beautiful tonight. She was late because she went home after work to clean up and put on a new dress for me. Baccara was only half full. M suggested this was because it was a Wednesday night and it was still kind of early. But I think it was a sign that tourist numbers are way down because of the political situation. M said that none of her friends were coming to the bar tonight.

I asked her if she was hungry and she said politely, a little bit. After a brief discussion over where to go, we decided on the Love Scene, where else? And over dinner, M told me that her mother was coming to BKK tomorrow and staying at M's studio apartment (sharing her bed) for the next few days, so tonight was maybe going to be our last night together. M said she would try to see me later, but she couldn't be sure if that was possible. I joked around that she should introduce me to mom and I would take them both to dinner. M shook her head back and forth and gave me one of her "you crazy American looks". I continued to rib her about this asking her, "why don't you want mother to meet me?" 555, but truth be told, I had no desire to meet the family. I am very happy with our little P4 P GFE relationship and I do not want to make it any more real than it is. But M's reluctance to introduce me to her mother shows the mindset of a Thai family that is in total denial about what their youngest precious daughter is doing in BKK and how she is able to support herself in a nice apartment in a middle class neighborhood, have nice dresses, clothes, expensive makeup, and send money home regularly to support the entire family, all without a university degree and a steady job. All M would say to me on this is, "not time to tell ma. " Ha Ha.

So tonight was possibly our last night together. M wanted to make it festive so after dinner we stopped off at the 7/11 and stocked up on snacks, a small bottle of Absolut Raspberry Vodka, and some cans of Sprite before we headed back to the Renaissance Hotel. We got back to my room just in time to watch the concluding episode of "Not With My Husband" where finally the two main characters patch things up and get back together, but not before the wife throws her wedding ring into a field of sugar cane a couple times. But finally she forgives her husband for a season of near miss infidelities, was there any doubt, and accepts his pledge of undying love. It was the worst episode of the season and so cliched and sugary sweet, but the actress playing the wife was definitely hot. (I would love to shag her.) And still at the end of the show and the series, the TV audience does not get to see the long suffering star crossed lovers kiss. Kissing on the lips is not allowed on Thai TV, so all the husband is allowed to do is kiss his wife on the forehead and all she can do is look up at him real lovey dovey devoted like. And that was final scene. The end! I asked M why they no boom boom and she laughed and said I was an American bad boy.

After the show, we showered and then we boom boomed, that's for sure. M was funny, passionate and really great tonight. We had a lengthy soapy shower session. Afterwards M pulled one of her boom bada boom gags while walking into the bedroom and dropping her towel in front of me. I Daty'd her until she came and then she smoked me. She got on top and rode me passionately until she collapsed on top of me after her 2nd orgasm. I rolled her over and finished her up in missionary. It felt good to be with her again. I do like this girl. I may have paid a great deal in lost opportunities with many friendly hot BKK girls this trip by spending so much time with M, but the sex with her is really great. It is so personal and passionate. At this point in the relationship I feel she is holding nothing back during sex and it seems to be getting better every year I see her. She is a great girl. We talked a little about next year. I may take her to Ko Lipe or Chiang Rai. We will see.

It was around 12:30 am when we cleaned up and took another shower together. M said she had to get up at 8 am for her "Insurin" job. She said she was a little tired from waking up so early every day. She said she didn't want to leave, but she really needed to go back to her apartment to get some sleep. I don't know how long she can keep it up; I mean work at Baccara at night or stay out late with her friends and work her "Insurin" job during the day. I wish her the best.

Anyway we drank the last of the Absolut Vodka and then we said goodbye with hugs and kisses. M looked a little sad. She said she would try to get away from mother to see me, but she hinted that it did not seem too likely. That was ok with me. I had an historic great time with her this trip and I am looking forward to seeing her again in 2015, but at the moment I was also looking forward to a few days in BKK on my own. My Thailand chapter was almost over and there were a ton of girls that needed attending to.

I saw M off in a taxi and we waived goodbye at each other. I immediately headed over to the Hyatt Hotel and Spasso Bar right around the corner. It was a Wednesday night, a relatively slow night, but as soon as I entered the bar; I was hit with inviting looks from just about every available girl in the place. They all gave me that "I am here for you" look and many of the girls looked pretty good all dressed up in their fashionable evening dresses. That's why I like Spasso. You get to select from a different class of Thai girl, the Hi-So Freelance girl that you don't really find in too many other places. These girls are generally older than Go Go girls and they seem to be from a higher, better educated, class. Their rates are expensive. ST is 4000 bt and LT is 5000 bt and up. I generally hit this bar once a trip and it is the reason I have been staying for free at the Renaissance one night for each of the past 3 years. All the girls I have taken from Spasso have been real nice and are GFE oriented. They usually stay till 3 or 4 am with the ST plan. I imagine some of these girls have international sponsors. The girl I was with last year showed me pictures of her condominium. It looked really great with a built in bar, expensive wood paneling, and modern lighting. I was impressed.

There was a pretty good crowd for a Wednesday with about twice as many girls as guys. I walked around the bar and checked out the talent. I saw 3 or 4 very friendly girls that seemed pretty intriguing. I ordered a coke light (200 bt) and sat down at the bar. The band came on and they were not bad. Some girls were dancing alone and others were with guys. Spasso reminds me very much of Bats at the Shangri La in Jakarta and Brix Bar at the Hyatt in Singapore. I think Brix has the best looking girls. Many of the customers in Spasso were wearing sport coats, but I felt comfortable in my Polo T-shirt and jeans. I was continually recieving amorous glances from a number of attractive well-dressed girls sitting by themselves at the bar and in booths alongside the bar. After a while I could not take it any longer. I mean either it was time to pick up a girl and go for another round or let it go.

And as much as I would have liked to have made the acquaintance of one of these girls on any other night, I just did not feel the desire to do so tonight. I stayed for one more drink and until the band got going again. Then I left. I will go back next year for sure. I even decided not to walk across the street and check out Mixx which stays open all night. Instead I headed back to the Renaissance. It was around 1:30 am. I watched a little TV and fell asleep. It felt good to be back in BKK. Lots of pretty girls! Pattaya who?

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Day 36 Thursday April 3, 2014 Back in BKK Day 2:

In the morning I moved from the Renaissance to the Radisson Suites Hotel on Soi 13. My 65 sq meter 1 bedroom suite was roomy and comfortable. For $59/ night, I consider it a real bargain. The suite featured a decent size living room with an office area off to the side, a separate galley kitchen, a modern bath room and dressing area, and a good size bedroom. The hotel's red surface roof top pool was relaxing and peaceful, although the red concrete color is an unusual choice for a swimming pool surface. There was a small convenient bar in the patio area next to the pool. The Radisson Hotel staff were very friendly and courteous, so all in all, I think this is a pretty good 3. 5* to 4* hotel at a great price. My only criticism is that the view from my room was less than spectacular being that it looked out on a parking lot and another apartment building off in the distance. Also, location wise Soi 13 is not my favorite Soi, but it offers easy access to Soi 11 through the Ambassador Arcade and otherwise it is a fast walking commute to Sukhumvit.

One more thing about the Radisson: it is part of the Carlson Hotel Group. I had around 22,000 pts with Carlson from a stay I previously had at their Amsterdam hotel a while back. Before leaving on this trip, Carlson had offered me their signature Visa credit card with an 80,000 pt signing bonus. So after my stay at the Radisson Suites this trip my cumulative point level was over 130,000 pts. Consequently, I have booked 4 free nights at their new Radisson Blu Hotel on 489 Sukhumvit near Soi 27. The Radisson Blu is a higher class hotel than the Radisson Suites and I am looking forward to giving the Blu a try in 2015.

I had lunch at Monsoon Restaurant on Soi 8 where I had an interesting conversation with one of the waitresses. She was a reasonably attractive 42 year old Chinese / Thai gal and she gave me a startling condensed history of her life story which included time in a Burmese jail for sapphire smuggling and watching her best friend die of Malaria in that same prison, then buying her freedom with all the money she had in the world, breaking up with her American boyfriend, taking care of their 12 year old son, and her dream of setting up her own Thailand tourist agency and the obstacles she faced in doing it.

It sounds like a real soap opera when I list all these events here, but she sang her story in an interesting and convincing way. I liked her and I wasn't sure if she was hitting on me or not and if she wanted me to ask her out on a date. Like I said, she was fairly good looking for 42. We got on the subject of the goings on around Soi 8 and the rest of Sukhumvit and she exclaimed that everybody here was crazy, both the Thai girls and the tourists. She said Farangs were constantly hitting on her like she was a prostitute and she did not like that. I reminded her of where we were, but I added that any male tourists that assumed all Thai girls in lower Sukhumvit were P4 P were ignorant and she shouldn't hold that against all western men. I decided not to ask her out though. She was interesting and smart, but there were just too many younger fish in the sea and I don't mind paying for them. Ha Ha. I gave her a 100 bt tip in any case because she was interesting, broke, and reasonably attractive.

After lunch I relaxed by the red pool on top of the Radisson Suites. M called. She said mother was in town and she could not see me tonight. No problemo. It gave me the opportunity to do some of the things I had been missing.

Around 8 pm I walked over to Suzie Wong to see if by any chance Mn was around. She said she was not going to work on Thursday, but I was hoping she might be here anyway. I did not see her, so I inquired about her and the mama confirmed that Mn was off tonight and probably Friday night too. Damn, I really wanted to hook up with this girl. But that is life and I decided the next best thing was to take the MRT over to Phetchaburi and go visit La Belle Soapy Massage parlor as a consolation prize.

I had two recent sessions with "De" class La Belle girls that I really liked. J was a really sexy girl I met in 2013 and P was the girl I met on March 20 this trip, who needed extra clitoral stimulation. Go back to read my report on her; what a girl! She was great. In any case, I did not spot either girl on this visit. One of the hosts or papasans, Mr. Ting, came over and said Hello,. He escorted me to a table and chair in front of the fishbowl stage. At first he tried to steer me towards a tall girl with silly cones in the "S" class, but I was not attracted to her. He had recommended a similar looking silly cone girl the last time I was here. Realizing his mistake, he then recommended a smaller, cuter girl who was also in the "S" class, but by this time, I had noticed a very pretty little darling sitting by the bar to our right, who was looking and smiling at me. I immediately liked her look and the way she smiled which conveyed to me her message; "I like you and I want you to pick me. " Well, I did not even wait for my coke light to arrive. I told Mr. Ting that I wanted E and he called her over. E was all smiles and she extended her hand to me as we met and said Hello,. My coke came and she carried it over to the cashier's desk. E was a "P" class girl, ouch, and the charge for her services came to 5000 bt or 4000 bt plus the obnoxious 1000 bt Farang tax.

After I paid my bill with a credit card, E took me upstairs. In the room we got better acquainted. E was a natural darling and a very good kisser. I asked her if she wanted a drink and she ordered coconut water. As we waited for the Jacuzzi to fill, we continued to make out and I snapped a few pictures. E was ok with a photo shoot, but she insisted on "clean" photos only. I showed her the pics and she objected to one picture that included the Jacuzzi in the background. She asked me to delete it which I did.

We disrobed when the tub was full. E had a beautiful 22 year old body with perfect round breasts and a sculpted small ass. She took her time in the Jacuzzi and cleaned me gently, but thoroughly all over while we occasionally kissed. Then she started to give me a wet BJ in the tub and arranged her body so that her pussy was easy touching distant from my hand. As my fingers found her, she encouraged me to massage her pussy. It was all very erotic. At first I just lightly touched her outer lips with my hand, but pretty soon I was massaging her entire pussy and she seemed to love it. I placed my third finger on her bum hole and wrapped the rest of my hand around her pussy. Because of her upright position in the water and the water pressure, her pussy lips seemed dramatically well defined and my hand wandered all over and around them.

This mutual hand stimulation went on for a very long time. Then E moved up on my body and started to massage her pussy on the shaft of my dick. This was a great move on her part. Sometimes I perform a similar technique on my girls in bed. There is no penetration, but the pussy lips hold onto and caress the side of the penis while cradling it. It feels great for both parties. It is not like humping. The pussy and the dick are mutually massaging each other. I was very turned on and thinking naughty thoughts. I picked E up and positioned her a couple centimeters higher on my body in the Jacuzzi so that I might penetrate her on her next move, but she softly said, "Condom Please, Maak" and I, being a gentleman held back. In my experience, sometimes the girl does not say "condom please" and the pussy massage becomes a bareback shag. I was hoping for a bareback shag in the Jacuzzi, but I was not let down by E's legitimate request. She gave me the best Jacuzzi soapy massage I have ever had in BKK!

So we toweled off and headed to bed where we started off slow again with DFK'ing and caresses. Pretty soon E went down on me and started to smoke me and give me a simultaneous HJ. And just like P, my pervious La Belle girl, E positioned her pussy open face and within easy arm's length, just begging me to massage her there, which of course I did. So E was blowing me and I was massaging her pussy like we were initially doing in the Jacuzzi. I was very hard. Her pussy was now very close to my head, so I asked her if she wanted me to kiss it. She said it was up to me. I said no it's up to you and with that she straddled my head and presented her little box to my lips. I went down town on her and licked her all over. She became extremely wet while she continued to give me an excellent BBBJ. I love 69'ing beautiful fresh girls. This went on for a very long time. In fact, I don't recall ever having a 69 go on as long as this one did with any other massage parlor or sauna girl.

Eventually E turned around and said she wanted me. I said I wanted her too. So she reached for a condom on the nightstand and put it on my dick using only her mouth. Then she got on top and impaled herself on my dick. Her pussy felt great and I palmed her beautiful round breasts as she rode me. In this position physically, E reminded me a little of M, only E is a couple inches taller and a lot younger. In any case, she was just fantastic! All too soon I began to feel my orgasm building and I told E I was going to cum. She responded passionately to this and went wild. I tried to hold off as long as possible, but it was impossible to prolong my pleasure any longer and I shot off a load. E collapsed on top of me and we stayed in this embrace until my dick shrunk down out of her pussy.

Next E cleaned me off and we went back to holding each other closely and kissing occasionally. It was then time for a cleanup shower. After we dried off, we sat next to one another on the couch. We exchanged phone numbers and I told E that I would call her. She said, "Please do not forget me. " I think I have heard that line a couple times this trip. 555. I told her I would never forget her. Then as we were just about finished putting on our clothes; the phone rang indicating my time was up. Before we left the room, I tipped E 500 bt. She was worth it and more. This was one of the best soapy sessions I have ever had. That's 2 for 2 for La Belle this trip. P, my previous La Belle soapy girl gave me a great session too, although not quite as amazing as this one. Yeah, looking back, I have to say that this first time with E was definitely one of the top 3 experiences of my entire trip, not counting special times with M which belong in another category altogether. This was a great night and E is an extraordinary girl.

I think I have to give La Belle high ratings too. The elegant ambiance of the lounge area and the high quality of their rooms is outstanding. But more importantly, 95% of the girls I have met here were real friendly and gave me very good sessions. Is it just a coincidence that both girls I had on this trip presented their pussy's to me for stimulation and encouraged me to massage their twats and DATY them? Possibly, but a far more likely scenario is these sideline girls have been trained to give excellent service which includes clitoral stimulation. I don't know what the answer is, but as long as I continue to receive 10 out 10 * service like this from such good looking girls, I will continue to rate La Belle as the finest soapy in BKK!

E and I made out in the elevator down to the main floor. She asked if I wanted to see her tomorrow. I told her I might be busy tomorrow, but I would text her later and we would arrange something. She escorted me back to the lounge area where we said our formal goodbyes. She then went to the girl's makeup room and I lingered for a while in the lounge checking out the girls on the fishbowl stage and a few new sideline girls sitting by the bar.

It was around 11:30 pm. The Soi 11 nightlife scene was just beginning to get underway. Many massage girls from the Ambassador Arcade shops were out on the Soi trying to get a last customer. Climax was open and the first few customers were trickling in. I stopped off for a beer and saw a few friendly potential girls. It was early for Climax, but late for me. I just didn't have any more power left for another session. I walked back to the Radisson saying good night to a few massage girls as I passed by their small shops in the Ambassador Arcade. I watched a little TV and fell asleep before 1 am.

[EouroCouple]

Found it here: http://www.bangkok-beat.com/, and it sounds great for my purposes (bringing my Filipina GF and gradually introducing her to harder and harder scenes). Thanks very much!G'day all. First post after reading extensively and not being able to find a solid answer to my question. The thing is that I am looking for any hints as to where to go to in order to find couples massage I BKK. Yes. I have seen to earlier replies, but the thing is that I am lucky to have a 100% bi sexual wife who happens to be very attractive and she likes attractive women with large breasts.

Now. We have been travelling to BKK several times as we are lucky enough to live in Asia (originally from Europe) and I have sent countless emails to multitude of MP asking I they offer W2 W massage with additions and frankly only one has been successfully, Dream Heaven 33. We've gone there on couple of occasions but even they have only one Lady that is comfortable with the said meeting: Giftzy. She would seam to be a real bi herself, but with all sympathy to her; she is far from the ideal my wife is looking for and additionally, she'd really like to try something new the next time we come to BKK. Around 12.2014.

So in a nutshell. I do not take my wife through the steps of W2 W gradually and on the contrary; am looking for any information anybody could share on where to find guaranteed W2 W FS for a very attractive, mid 20's' Caucasian Lady where the massage would be only a potential add-on to the meeting.

We also know addresses like Eden Club but what we really are looking for is a Lady that would be experienced in this kind of meetings and would draw pleasure from it in opposition to simply working and pretending. The ideal would be non MP contact with a correct type of person but probably this is not realistic to expect, so any information on any MPs' (nuru / oil. No soap) and / or clubs with 'high probability' of meeting the described person would be highly appreciated.

We also would like to see some show this time around in BKK. Earlier either no time or the warnings in connection to Patpong has kept us out from these areas. I have read in several posts about Suzie Wong and the shows there. Based on the description higher, would this be a place the more experienced persons on the forum would suggest for us? Would a couple entering the venue create any major consternation with staff or any issues? Is the place 'honest' in regards to the consumption vs. Bill etc. ?

Any and all suggestions, recommendations and advise welcomed.

[Traveler1234]

G'day all. First post after reading extensively and not being able to find a solid answer to my question.
Any and all suggestions, recommendations and advise welcomed.There are several resident experts that might be willing to offer their assistance via pm. So first suggestion is to buy a subscription to send / receive PM. Then take a look back at some posts to see if you can identify those who are regulars to bars or oilies.

[Wolvenvacht]

We also would like to see some show this time around in BKK. Earlier either no time or the warnings in connection to Patpong has kept us out from these areas. I have read in several posts about Suzie Wong and the shows there. Based on the description higher, would this be a place the more experienced persons on the forum would suggest for us? Would a couple entering the venue create any major consternation with staff or any issues? Is the place 'honest' in regards to the consumption vs. Bill etc. ?

Any and all suggestions, recommendations and advise welcomed.Suzie Wong is my favourite agogo club in Bangkok. I never had any issues there with "padding" the tab. Suzie Wong indeed has a number of entertaining shows. The show where girls are painted with fluorescent paint by a local artist is most lovely. There is a "soapie" show and ever so often a lesbian show. Whether these are real lesbians (or rather bi-sexuals) I do not know. Most probably the mamasan(s) will know and can help you. The atmosphere in Suzie Wong is really friendly. No hustling for ladydrinks.

Bringing your wife to Suzie Wong will be no problem at all. I have seen this happen many times. If a couple comes to Suzie Wong they will have to be a bit more active to grab the attention of the girls as the girls will assume you are already "taken" and no longer a prime target for them. As I said above, ask the mamasan to help you and you should be OK or be outgoing and call your favourite dancer to your table.

[Member #4698]

Day 37 Friday April 4, 2014 Back in BKK Day 3:

During the day I received a few calls from M and a couple of texts from E. M called to say she missed me and to tell me her mother was still in BKK and she could not come see me tonight. E texted wanting to know if I wanted to see her today. It was nice to hear M's cheerful voice, but she was no longer my focus because of her conflicting family obligations. E was another story. I really wanted to see her again and replicate our amazing session, but I was concerned that two nights in a row might lessen the impact and not be optimal. I wanted our next get together to be just as great as our first night so I texted her that I could not see her tonight, but I that I was looking forward to seeing her Saturday. E texted back that Saturday was fine and asked that I call her tomorrow to firm up the time. I texted back that I would call her tomorrow and added that I really missed her and couldn't stop thinking of her yada yada yada.

So I hit Soi Cowboy solo this night. I started off at Suzie Wong in the vain hope I would see Mn. The waitress knew without my asking who I was looking for and came up to me and said Mn not coming in tonight. I bought a coke light and stayed long enough to check out the rest of the girls. Although there were a few likely candidates, no girl really hit me like I had to have her, so after I finished my coke I took off.

Next I walked over to Crazy House where I met a couple of really sexy girls. It was a very unusual pickup, but after everything was sorted out, I ended up barfining the right girl and had a great time. Here is what happened:

CH was in full swing when I arrived. I found a seat in the middle of the bar and ordered a Singha. The naked set of dancers was on stage. Oddly it was only on my first night in CH that I saw the 3 superstar naked spinners. They were gorgeous in every way. Still, there were a number of very attractive girls on stage and I was scoping them out to see which one I liked and which one showed an interest in me. As if she was reading my mind, a very pretty blond girl wearing glasses, I am a sucker for girls that wear glasses, and sporting a killer body squatted down right in front of me exposing her beautiful pussy not a foot away. I nodded my approval and she stood back up giving me a sexy knowing smile. A short time later she turned around and squatted again, this time exposing her beautiful little bum hole to me not a foot away. I palmed her ass and when she turned around I invited her over for a drink. I was sold.

After her set Tang Mo came down and joined me. She insinuated herself between my legs and semi sat on my lap. I ordered a round of Tequilas and we started getting acquainted. Tang Mo said she was from Chiang Mai and 24. I put my arm around her as we watched some of the other girls on stage. A young girl dancing seductively in front of us was trying to attract a Korean customer's attention with no apparent luck as he remained a little cold and distant. It was funny because I thought the way the young girl was acting and dancing was very sexy. Tang Mo introduced me to the girl and said they were good friends. Little Mee gave me a very naughty smile and I bought another round of Tequilas including a shot for Mee. She drank it down while she was still dancing on stage and then she squatted and lifted up her little bikini bottom giving me a private look at her pussy. Her group of dancers was partially clothed. After her dance set Mee joined Tang Mo and me. The mama came by and spoke to Tang Mo. Tang Mo nodded and then told me she had to talk to another girl on the far side of the bar for a minute or two. She asked me not to leave the bar and said she would be right back.

Now I was alone with tempting little Mee. Mee spoke only so so English. She said she was 19. Now she was definitely not as attractive (beautiful) as Tang Mo, her friend, but there was something erotically naughty and provocative about the way Mee acted that really turned me on and convinced me that she would be the better playmate. I looked across the bar and saw Tang Mo talking to another girl. She saw me and smiled. Mee snuggled in close between my legs and started rubbing my cock. I put my arm around her, I thought about it for a second, and then I started kissing her. Mee unzipped my jeans and I felt her hand wander around inside until she found my dick. Then she began to give me a hand job. I placed my hand underneath her little bottom covering and began to massage her pussy which was already wet. At some point I asked Mee if she wanted to go ST with me. She said yes and gave me a deep French kiss.

After a while Tang Mo rejoined us. She was not mad about what was going on between Mee and me. In fact she seemed quite pleased that we had hit it off. She told me privately that Mee was a good girl. I bought another round of Tequila for the three of us. Mee asked if I wanted her to change clothes now and I said yes. The Mama came over and thanked me for barfining Mee. Tang Mo continued to take good care of me until Mee returned. I said goodbye to her and escorted my little 19 year old outside.

The first taxi driver tried to extort me with a 100 bt fixed fee. I hate that. I don't think he would of tried that BS if I were not with a girl. The next driver though was honest and turned on his meter. Mee and I made out in the back of the taxi the whole 7 or 8 minutes it took to drive to the Radisson Suites on Soi 13. The fare came to only 40 bt or something. I gave the driver 80 bt because he was honest and didn't try to take advantage of the situation just because I was with a girl.

Mee sat down on the couch in the living room and I made us two Vodka and sprites. We watched a little TV and made out. Then it was soapy shower time. She cleaned my dick and balls thoroughly while I played with her pussy and then I soapy body massaged her. In bed we made out some more and then Mee smoked me. She applied a condom and I began shagging her in the missionary position. Everything was going fine but then, after about 10 minutes in mish, I started to lose my hard on. I am not exactly sure of the reason. I think it was probably a combination of too many Tequilas, sex every night since I can't remember when, and quite possibly it was on account of my last session with E being so spectacular that I had become jaded with just ordinary everyday good time sex with a happy, sexy 19 year old Thai girl. I don't know, but I was ok with it. I pulled out and tore off the condom. Mee looked up and seemed concerned. I told her everything was ok and she could finish me off with a smoke.

At this point I was sitting on my knees in front of Mee on the bed. Mee leaned forward and smoked me for a while until I was hard again. Then she grabbed my cock, leaned back, and started masturbating her clit with it. I can't recall any girl ever doing that to me before. I was caught up in the immediacy of the action, but this move surprised me. She was using the head of my dick like a dildo to stimulate her clitoris. I looked down at what she was doing and it really turned me on!

Mee was turning herself on as well and she was getting more randy by the minute. My Buddha, what the hell is going on with these BKK girls? I knew there was something erotic about Mee by the way she moved and related to me in the bar, but this was amazing. It was kind of similar to E's pussy lip massage, but Mee's actions were more directly focused. She wanted to get off! Plain and simple and I loved what she was now doing. And then, oops! Mee got a little carried away with it and my head popped into her vagina. We both looked at each other for a second and hesitated. Mee queried, "Condom?" and I said, "no need". And then she opened up wide and I went all the way in.

Whatever lethargy or loss of libido / sexual drive I thought I had before was gone. Mee had supercharged my batteries and I now let her have it. Of course the added feelings and sensations from barebacking her plus the risk element only added to the feeling of pleasure I was receiving and fortunately I lasted a long time. After mish I rolled her over and she performed a little cowgirl. Then Mee spun around and gave me a reverse cowgirl ride. Finally I rose up partially with the souls of my feet firmly on the bed and I took her from behind doggie style until the end.

Afterwards we lay together a long time until we both recovered and then we showered together. She asked if I wanted her to stay LT and I told her I was too tired tonight. I gave Mee an extra big tip (500 bt) for being so nice and sexy. Then I warned her about barebacking. I told her I was ok, but she had to be careful with other customers. Condom only and she nodded, the little minx. We both got dressed and I took her down to Soi 13 in front of the hotel. We said our goodbyes and kissed. Mee waived nonstop until the taxi took her out of view. What a nice little girl.

I walked over to Soi 11 and had a Vodka and ice with a lemon twist at Bash across from the Grand President Hotel. There was a boat load of nicely dressed girls ready for takeout. I just admired the scenery and ordered a final nightcap.

I knew then I was sure going to miss BKK! I would have loved hooking up with Mee again and possibly arranging a menage with Tang Mo, but tomorrow, Saturday was my last night in town and I wanted to see E one more time and maybe afterwards check to see if Mn was back at work at Suzi Wong. The next stop on Sunday was Macau. Look Out!

[Member #4698]

Day 38 Saturday April 5, 2014 Back in BKK Day 4 (Last Night):

I took a long nostalgic walk around an upper Sukhumvit residential neighborhood this morning. On my way back I stopped off at Bharani on Soi 23 for a bowl of their beef boat noodle soup. You can't go wrong with this tasty dish for 80 bt. Then for desert I dropped by I Wane 1975 around the corner for one of their red bean pastry buns. From there it was straight back to the Radisson and up to the red pool to cool off.

Starting sometime around 1 pm, E and I began texting back and forth the rest of the afternoon. It was decided that I would drop by La Belle at 7 pm to see her. I received her last text as I was walking through La Belle's parking lot and approaching the front door. It was 7 pm exactly. I immediately called her back and told where I was. She said she was in the dressing area and she would come out to greet me in the lounge.

I spotted her pretty face as soon as I got off the escalator and entered the main lounge area. She lit up a big smile as soon as she saw me. We sat down on one of the couches and I ordered a coke light for me and coconut water for her. We held hands and talked for a little while. Mr. Ting came by and welcomed me back. He smiled as he said something about E and me being a good looking couple. Ha Ha! I tipped him 100 bt for remembering us and treating me good. E then escorted me arm in arm to the cashier's desk where I settled the bill and then we strolled to the elevator.

This session was similar to our first one, but it seemed more relaxed and intimate. E was amazing again in the Jacuzzi as she massaged my dick between her pussy lips. In bed, we Frenched and pleasured each other for a good while. Then she moved down 180 degrees so we could 69. I made out with her beautiful fresh pussy for a long time and then while enjoying a close up view of her pretty little two toned bum hole, I couldn't resist and gave it a long slow kiss. Usually I can't hold out too long when I am doing this sort of thing with fresh, young, pretty Asian girls and sure enough I started to feel an orgasm coming on. I reluctantly had to ask E to stop what she was doing down below and come on up topside.

She condomed me and then she impaled herself on my dick. Her cowgirl was just fantastic. E really knows how to make every sensual move count. I palmed her small round breasts as I matched her movements. I looked up and I could see our reflection in the large ceiling mirror. After 10 to 15 minutes of bliss, I sat up so we could do each other in the sitting position. I loved looking down seeing my dick go in and out of her vagina while making out with her from time to time. Finally, I gently picked her up and laid her on her back so I could finish her off in mish.

We managed to go into overtime and the phone rang while we were still going at it. E said there was no rush and I completed our sexual union in a natural way. Afterwards we laid side by side and cuddled for a while. Then it was time to shower and we quickly got dressed. I told E that I was leaving for Macau tomorrow and she seemed a little sad to hear I was leaving. I was sad too. I really liked this girl and would have liked to have seen more of her especially on the outside on a date or something. We exchanged E-mail addresses and have been in semiweekly contact since I left BKK. She might be another M in the making. Who knows? I will have to see how it goes next time I am in BKK when I see her again.

E and I passionately made out in the elevator on the way down to the 2nd floor. She took my hand as we walked to the lounge area where we said our formal goodbyes. After she left, I hung around a little while checking out the girls. There were probably 40 girls or more on the stage (the fishbowl) and another 6 or 7 models to the side by the bar. Although a majority of the girls were not exactly my type, there was at least 7 to 10 high caliber, very sexy, hot girls that definitely were my type. So based on the quality and diversity of the girls plus the level of service they have almost always given me, La Belle remains my favorite soapy massage parlor in BKK. In truth, only a few Macau Saunas and possibly a couple of Bordellos in Jakarta can match or top the experience IMHO.

After my session with E, I had a feeling of closure I. E. That this BKK trip was over. I certainly had a great time here. I don't remember when the girls were better, friendlier, or more revved up. I just wish I could have done more of them. 555! But, I was tired after my session at La Belle and I did not even feel like stopping by Cowboy to see if Mn was back at Suzy Wong's or to say goodbye to my entourage at Baccara. M's mother was still staying at M's apartment tonight so Wednesday night turned out to be our last time together. I spoke to M later in the evening and I asked her to say goodbye to everyone for me and to tell them I would miss them all.

I walked from the Asok MRT station to Soi 11. I stopped off one last time at Jue Jue's rolling food cart for dinner and then I went back to my hotel. Even the massage girls in the Ambassador Arcade seemed to sense I was done and a few just said Hi to me as I walked past their shops not even asking me if I wanted a massage. It was around midnight. My wakeup call was scheduled for 4:30 am. Bye Bye BKK. See you next year.

P.S. My trip report will continue in the Macau forum, but I will also simultaneously post my Singapore and Phnom Penh trip reports that I chronologically skipped over in my haste to post my BKK report. Singapore has a very healthy and robust P4 P scene. A lot of people do not know that about Singapore. So I think my Singapore report will be interesting and informative. Phnom Penh is a city in transition. The nightlife scene there is undergoing many changes. I believe my Phnom Penh trip report will be very controversial on the ISG. Some BM's are not going to like it. Ha Ha. But I had a real good time and that's what counts.

[EouroCouple]

Suzie Wong is my favourite agogo club in Bangkok. I never had any issues there with "padding" the tab. Suzie Wong indeed has a number of entertaining shows. The show where girls are painted with fluorescent paint by a local artist is most lovely. There is a "soapie" show and ever so often a lesbian show. Whether these are real lesbians (or rather bi-sexuals) I do not know. Most probably the mamasan(s) will know and can help you. The atmosphere in Suzie Wong is really friendly. No hustling for ladydrinks.

Bringing your wife to Suzie Wong will be no problem at all. I have seen this happen many times. If a couple comes to Suzie Wong they will have to be a bit more active to grab the attention of the girls as the girls will assume you are already "taken" and no longer a prime target for them. As I said above, ask the mamasan to help you and you should be OK or be outgoing and call your favourite dancer to your table.Much appreciated. I was hoping to read something similar. So at least one 'milestone' can be ticked off from the trip plan The schedule of shows etc. I will google. If there still would be any guidelines in connection to oilies it would be simply perfect.

Cheers!

[Chukar]

Natty,

I want to thank you for your well written, entertaining reports. It is trip reports like yours that make me want to visit ISG everyday.

[Wolvenvacht]

Much appreciated. I was hoping to read something similar. So at least one 'milestone' can be ticked off from the trip plan The schedule of shows etc. I will google. If there still would be any guidelines in connection to oilies it would be simply perfect.

Cheers!I remember seeing inside the bar their URL posted on the wall. But it was far from obvious and I failed to write it down. Googling "Suzie Wong Bangkok" did not find it. They have a facebook page: look for "Suzie Wong Agogo, Soi Cowboy" on FB.

Anyhow, the shows start around 10 PM, before that there are only girls doing the Bangkok Shuffle on stage. Suzie Wong is one of the few agogo clubs where all dancing is done in the nude.

[ActionOriented]

saturday, 27 september.

it has been an expensive day, or just another normal day in bangkok. not waiting to end my trip and posting the reports live, as and when i find the time. since sleep eludes me after an extremely satisfying session, rather than making a few notes this time, i decided to post a short report (apologies if it is too long for those that do not enjoy such reports).

arrival

after taking a graveyard shift flight from new delhi to suvarnabhumi on thai airways (i was trying this airline for the first time and i have only good things to say for it, the airline crew is definitely worth a look and the blanket and pillow make the trip comfortable), sailed through immigration and hopped onto a taxi for mac boutique on soi 7, the usual place. i am a little under the weather and i was already tired after several hectic work days and therefore had decided that i will take it light in bangkok today and make up on the mongering in pattaya. i caught shut eye for 2 hours, met up with fellow isg member with whom i make these trips and we decided to find some grub.

a quick bite to eat at kinnaree restaurant on soi 11, we take the bts to get currency changed. my usual choice for currency exchanges is super rich in rajdamri, but we got off at chitlom and checked out unite change (per recommendation from mr. nb). i found them offering usd at 32.10 and super rich on their website listed 32.23. so i called them to check up and turns out over the weekends the branch closes at 4. 30 pm. it was already 5 pm. i was getting a decent rate on inr, so changed more than enough to last two days. but after the days proceedings, i do not have any thb left (as you will see).

went around to big c to generally browse for stuff, and specifically looking for the sagami original 0. 01, but managed to find only 0. 02. picked one up just to try it out, more on that later.

som's haven

fellow isg member made me walk up and down asok to thong lor since he was hoping to take out a girl from either tulip or mango for the entire night (our plan to visit sk would have to wait). the line-up at mango at 7 pm this evening was very tempting but i wasn't feeling in the mood for pse. after a quick rate check, we moved onto to tulip where they refused to let the girl do an outcall lt, they were however fine with sending any of their girls to the hotel for 2 hours. i am sure regulars at this establishment manage to get the girls to do lt. we just weren't there yet.

so after all the walking around, i needed to unload. fellow isg member is a regular at som's and i was yet to try the place out. the line-up wasn't particularly attractive, although once i finished i did see a couple of good lookers emerge. i just went along with the first chic that approached, i am weak in that sense. anyways, i was here to see good skill at work and not get head from a stunner. som offered us some pomegranate that she had just peeled and we had some with a beer. while i went up with the girl by my side, my friend decided to skip a bj today, instead he played around with the girls in the lobby. i got a decent bj, which started off with washing the tool, then a bit of ball licking. when she moved onto the shaft, i looked up and read a message on the wall which suggested that patrons will be charged extra if they exceed 30-40 minutes, however, customer services is their number 1 priority. well i took a very long time to cum and the girl got tired after around 20 minutes, sometimes, just sometimes, a bj is not enough to get me off. experienced this today. she offered to end with a handie, i declined, told her to keep at it. after a while, i got frustrated, took matters into my own hands and brought her mouth onto over the shaft when it was time to cum. a good thb 800 spent (beer included), girl was tipped thb 200.

after som's we were passing by yolo, and i managed to get a glimpse of the tv and it appears i had completely forgotten that there was a derby premier league match on the telly. so we stopped there for a few of their beverages and food. watched the match, which had a satisfying end, paid the bin. i suggested that my friend go into mango and take his pick and i was not one to take a massage girl long time without having tried her first, too much risk. i got a half hour foot massage on soi 24 while i think (but can't be sure) but my friend must have snagged his catch. i woke up with a start to a heavy lady telling me who gave an intense rub down to my feet for thb 200 that the massage was over. i glanced into my phone and realised it was getting late and i should hit cowboy before all the good stuff had been picked apart.

cowboy

now i was under the impression that this was low season with high season soon approaching (nov) onwards. the last two times that i visited this year (may and july) were really slow times for cowboy ago-gos. this time, however, sc was pumping with life and almost all the go-gos appeared to be full up with patrons. i had noted down the arab owned bars and steered clear of them all, which kind of takes away half of sc from the hunting grounds. i quickly went into suzie wong, the line up was decent but not that great. several girls around and several punters. i quite like sw because they have never denied me entry on account of my ethnicity and they put up some good shows. i had reached too late. all the body paint shows etc end by 10 pm apparently. nevertheless, there seemed to be an energy to the place. i had run up a bill of thb 1,300 on lady drinks and had gotten close to bar fining one of the sisters of the waitresses there. the mms being the sharp cookie extracted a drink for herself as well, but i didn't mind, i had sensed it at the time that i won't be saving any money that night. i promised the girl that i would come back and i didn't quite want to exit sc within half an hour of arrival. instead of wheeling into bacarra which is my usual spot, i thought to try crazy house (i tried to reason in my mind over a smoke), last time i tried to go into ch, i wasn't allowed in. anyways, may be it was just my lucky day, i walked into ch. the place has an odd structure and i believe a first floor as well, with a glass ceiling separating the two. i didn't bother going upstairs, there was a lot of eye candy on the ground. the place did have quite a few stunners as has been pointed out by other punters, but no one seemed to have all the ratios right. some were extremely pretty but did not have the adequate cup size to pique my interest. so i just enjoyed the electronic music, went into another drink buying spree. i do not drink much now, i had one shot at sw and one shot at ch, followed by coke. the girls were free to get high on my dime, the preference i noted was for tequila (and not the weird lady drinks in round glasses).

i got comfortable in fondling a girl named pew and she was pretty little thing with natural b cups. the chemistry seemed to be right, with indications of kissing as well. after her set ended i asked for a bar fine. i was informed that the standard bar fine at ch is 700 and the girl wanted st 2,500. i had managed to get her down to 2,000, and i wasn't negotiating or anything, i just looked horrified, the price was reduced automatically. when it was time to seal the deal, mms was called over, she indeed runs a tight ship. i was informed, that like bacarra, the girls all have a standard bar fine and standard st rates, so i would be required to pay thb 2,500. the strange part was that she wanted all the money in advance. i was a little surprised, i told the mms if the girl pulls a runner? she assured me and also berated the girl in advance (in thai) that she should not do anything of the kind. with the amount of drinks that i had purchased during the evening, i realised i was short of funds and could only pay the bar fine and the bin which was thb 1,080. i had thb 100 left for taxi. so pew and i set off for soi 7, my hotel, during the journey i was informed that she was a laotian and not from nong khai as earlier informed. she hardly spoke english, but was a good sport, at least the girl wanted to make the night special for me. after a mix up with the cabbie, we walked from soi 11 to soi 7 and i promised pew a massage back in the room. i told her to disrobe immediately once inside the room so that i could get the massage out of the way. her pussy just looked too inviting, and i set myself down for daty. it had been a while since i had eaten and the daty was enjoyable for me, and had her writhing all over the bed with my moving along. after daty, we moved to the shower, where we played around some more. after coming out of the shower, and some more daty, she pushed me down and mounted me in cowgirl. she was incredibly tight (and for a 24 year old just unreal). i had to maneouvre around a bit to get her comfortable. soon we moved to missionary where she was making loud moans, just short of screaming, i wonder how of it was fake though. whatever be the case, she knew how to give a good time. did doggie for a while and repeated all three positions again. the tightness of the pussy just didn't go away and after the condom finally slipped off while withdrawing, i could see that she was in a little pain, her pussy was hurting. i decided that i had had enough boom-boom for the night and so had she. we had initially decided to go dancing afterwards, but she had had 10 tequila shots during her shift and was clearly still woozy. so we just ended things with exchanging numbers and line ids. she told me that she didn't enjoy this line of work and would be going back to laos within 10 days and if i could i should try and catch up with her again upon returning from pattaya. i think i will repeat her, i have been a butterfly long enough, but i guess one cannot plan these things while in los.

now for some sleep, pattaya awaits my arrival tomorrow. i have blurred the pictures, but i guess, you guys get the idea. the first picture is of pew sitting next to me after boom-boom and making a face that her pussy hurt and the second picture is of wa deep throating me at som's.

now to get to some self-medication to get back to 100% health wise. hoping for a quiet and monger free day in bangkok is just not possible, it truly still remains a candy shop for the discerning.

[EouroCouple]

I remember seeing inside the bar their URL posted on the wall. But it was far from obvious and I failed to write it down. Googling "Suzie Wong Bangkok" did not find it. They have a facebook page: look for "Suzie Wong Agogo, Soi Cowboy" on FB.

Anyhow, the shows start around 10 PM, before that there are only girls doing the Bangkok Shuffle on stage. Suzie Wong is one of the few agogo clubs where all dancing is done in the nude.Thanks for that. The information search from the net IS proving to be a challenge. I simply am not able to find any solid data on the times of the shows. Either "before 22:00" or "from 22:00". Would anybody have any more specific data on this subject? Or is the solution simply to go not long after opening hour and sit through till at least 22:00? I was sure this place would have a solid web page to get all relevant data from and / or a lot of information in general in the internet, but there simply is not much available. Without recommendations from this forum I'd not even 1) know much about the place, 2) consider it to be a 'stop' during our trip to BKK. We'd simply not want to miss out on the shows that looks to be twice each evening.

Does anybody have any information on the Ladies that are performing the LES act that I have read about? Real thing (doubtful) or just an act (probable)?

Still no recommendations on MP that would be happy to service Ladies?

[Raj45]

Saturday, 27 September.

It has been an expensive day, or just another normal day in Bangkok. Not waiting to end my trip and posting the reports live, as and when I find the time. Since sleep eludes me after an extremely satisfying session, rather than making a few notes this time, I decided to post a short report (apologies if it is too long for those that do not enjoy such reports).

Arrival

After taking a graveyard shift flight from New Delhi to Suvarnabhumi on Thai Airways (I was trying this airline for the first time and I have only good things to say for it, the airline crew is definitely worth a look and the blanket and pillow make the trip comfortable), sailed through immigration and hopped onto a taxi for Mac Boutique on soi 7, the usual place. I am a little under the weather and I was already tired after several hectic work days and therefore had decided that I will take it light in Bangkok today and make up on the mongering in Pattaya. I caught shut eye for 2 hours, met up with fellow ISG member with whom I make these trips and we decided to find some grub...A very detailed FR of the good time spent in the land of sin. Wish you many more of the happy mongering days of your trip bro.

Let the reports keep trickling in between your busy schedule.

[RumBuddy]

Saturday, 27 September.

It has been an expensive day, or just another normal day in Bangkok. Not waiting to end my trip and posting the reports live, as and when I find the time. Since sleep eludes me after an extremely satisfying session, rather than making a few notes this time, I decided to post a short report (apologies if it is too long for those that do not enjoy such reports).

Nice report. I look forward to the day when I can post stories such as yours. I used to post long stories of my fun at the local AMP's. But I haven't gone to one again for for months.

I will wait until I go to the LOS in the next year.

[Papae Noel]

Still no recommendations on MP that would be happy to service Ladies?Have you seen butterflybangkok.com? They had an ad on backpage.com. They have couples massage with 2 masseueses.

[Syzygies]

Thanks for that. The information search from the net IS proving to be a challenge. I simply am not able to find any solid data on the times of the shows. Either "before 22:00" or "from 22:00". Would anybody have any more specific data on this subject? Or is the solution simply to go not long after opening hour and sit through till at least 22:00? I was sure this place would have a solid web page to get all relevant data from and / or a lot of information in general in the internet, but there simply is not much available. Without recommendations from this forum I'd not even 1) know much about the place, 2) consider it to be a 'stop' during our trip to BKK. We'd simply not want to miss out on the shows that looks to be twice each evening.

Does anybody have any information on the Ladies that are performing the LES act that I have read about? Real thing (doubtful) or just an act (probable)?

Still no recommendations on MP that would be happy to service Ladies?Look just show up at 9:45 PM at Suzie Wong, have a little patience and you will okay For the Lesbian show. Consider getting seats by the stage for all the mouth watering action. Don't show up too late as all the best seats maybe taken.

Mostly its a show, but girls are fairly used to doing it. Dtom reckons she is expert at pussy licking and Bo who shows up occasionally is a real bi-sexual (I've seen pics of her GF) and enjoys girls for real, even telling me which girls she had the hots for. I have seen the show countless times and often arrange my own private sessions with two girls from the lesbian show.

[Syzygies]

All the body paint shows etc end by 10 pm apparently. Nevertheless, there seemed to be an energy to the place. I had run up a bill of THB 1,300 on lady drinks and had gotten close to bar fining one of the sisters of the waitresses there. Nope, this is not correct unless radical changes have occurred in last 4 weeks. Long time ago Suzie shows started around 9:30 PM but the time slipped back as patrons did not seem to attend early enough. The first shows rarely start much before 10 PM and if place is busy, there will be a 2nd round of shows later on maybe close to midnight. Body paint is one of the minor shows. I wonder if you get confused with Crazy House whose shows may start a bit earlier, perhaps, or if you were really at Suzie at 11 PM?

[Syzygies]

Have you seen butterflybangkok.com? They had an ad on backpage.com. They have couples massage with 2 masseueses.Have you tried this service? Do you recommend it? I mean, I would not touch this, being outcall only, girls sight unseen, and so few girls on the web site. I might be too cautious or pessimistic, but what is the attraction here?

[Marc7321]

Still no recommendations on MP that would be happy to service Ladies?My GF works in a MP and she likes to please ladies alot. She has regular female customers from Europe and Japan. And of course she is beautiful, please send me PM for more information.

[Wolvenvacht]

I quickly went into Suzie Wong, the line up was decent but not that great. Several girls around and several punters. I quite like SW because they have never denied me entry on account of my ethnicity and they put up some good shows. I had reached too late. All the body paint shows etc end by 10 pm apparently. Nevertheless, there seemed to be an energy to the place. I had run up a bill of THB 1,300 on lady drinks and had gotten close to bar fining one of the sisters of the waitresses there.As you will know, in Thailand "sister" is used in a very loose sense, like "she's female and from the same province as me".

You can of course also barfine the waitresses. Last time I was in Suzie Wong, I just did that. A somewhat older lady, sweet and curvy. The night before I barfined one of the hot dancers of Suzie Wong. The waitress asked jokingly to barfine her as well. I said I was too tired to handle two ladies that night and promised to come back for her the next night. She must have heard that a million times and was most surprised I showed up and indeed barfined her.

We had a leisurely fuck, nothing special but a nice change of "scenery". It doesn't have to be the sexual olympics every time.

As she was a waitress she didn't shave her pussy, so another change of "scenery".

[Papae Noel]

Have you tried this service? Do you recommend it? I mean, I would not touch this, being outcall only, girls sight unseen, and so few girls on the web site. I might be too cautious or pessimistic, but what is the attraction here?No I have not. Was not even aware if it was just outcall only. I would not know whether it should be recommended or avoided. Just pointing out to EuourCouple a possibility.

BTW Syz, always interested to read of your exploits.

[EouroCouple]

No I have not. Was not even aware if it was just outcall only. I would not know whether it should be recommended or avoided. Just pointing out to EuourCouple a possibility.

BTW Syz, always interested to read of your exploits.That's what I was looking at the page also. In our case outcall is not an option unfortunately. And that would open the new complications with the picture matching etc. Of course. Thanks for taking trouble to find a proposition though, Papa Noel.

Wolvenvatch. Again thank you for the info. We'll sure to arrive earlier as you write. Very much looking forward to this.

[ActionOriented]

Nope, this is not correct unless radical changes have occurred in last 4 weeks. Long time ago Suzie shows started around 9:30 PM but the time slipped back as patrons did not seem to attend early enough. The first shows rarely start much before 10 PM and if place is busy, there will be a 2nd round of shows later on maybe close to midnight. Body paint is one of the minor shows. I wonder if you get confused with Crazy House whose shows may start a bit earlier, perhaps, or if you were really at Suzie at 11 PM?I was at SW around 11 pm and I confirmed with a couple of waitresses and the girl I was about to bar fine both of them confirmed that the shows for that particular day had ended. So it might be the case that they had wrapped up the shows for that day and were only doing the general dance routine. I have seen the body paint shows and lesbian shows on my earlier visits and I do remember them being between 9:30 pm to 11 pm.

I checked into CH around 12:30.

[ActionOriented]

As you will know, in Thailand "sister" is used in a very loose sense, like "she's female and from the same province as me".

You can of course also barfine the waitresses. Last time I was in Suzie Wong, I just did that. A somewhat older lady, sweet and curvy. The night before I barfined one of the hot dancers of Suzie Wong. The waitress asked jokingly to barfine her as well. I said I was too tired to handle two ladies that night and promised to come back for her the next night. She must have heard that a million times and was most surprised I showed up and indeed barfined her.

We had a leisurely fuck, nothing special but a nice change of "scenery". It doesn't have to be the sexual olympics every time.

As she was a waitress she didn't shave her pussy, so another change of "scenery".I agree, the waitress was also pretty as well, and if I wanted I could have bar fined the "sister" i. e. the dancer and the waitress, but I guess it just wasn't my time yet to barfine two girls from the same place.

[Syzygies]

I was at SW around 11 pm and I confirmed with a couple of waitresses and the girl I was about to bar fine both of them confirmed that the shows for that particular day had ended. So it might be the case that they had wrapped up the shows for that day and were only doing the general dance routine. I have seen the body paint shows and lesbian shows on my earlier visits and I do remember them being between 9:30 pm to 11 pm.

I checked into CH around 12:30.Its known on quiet days that there will only be one set of shows and may finish by 11 PM. I would be surprised if start as early as 9:30 PM, but perhaps 9:30 PM is good time to arrive to be safe. On busy day like Friday, Saturday, providing reasonable customer numbers, there should be two sets of shows. I have seen shows well past midnight, but not every day. I don't know the exact days for this.

[LinuxSaint]

Hey Seniors, regular members,

I am visiting Bangkok next week, I am looking form high end massage parlors where I can get good massage and extras. Please share details of the SPA. Help highly appreciated.

[RumBuddy]

Visa or Master Card, Discover?

Is one CC accepted more over the other one in BKK??

[Wolvenvacht]

Visa or Master Card, Discover? Is one CC accepted more over the other one in BKK??All the hotels I used accepted both Visa and MasterCard and American Express. I wouldn't know about Discover.

Restaurants geared more towards business or part of a chain accept credit cards as well. The really local restaurants do this far less if at all. But then again, these are so cheap (but still very good) that the handling cost of the credit card would be more expensive than the food.

The shops in the big shopping malls accept all kinds of credit cards.

On the average, Visa and MasterCard seem the credit cards that are most accepted.

[Duniawala]

Visa or Master Card, Discover? Is one CC accepted more over the other one in BKK??Discover is pretty much unknown outside US. A few years ago Visa had a big push to have customer use it over MC. Amex is only at a (relatively) few high end places.

[Java Man]

Visa or Master Card, Discover? Is one CC accepted more over the other one in BKK??From the Discover Card website: Discover cards are currently accepted in multiple countries around the world through the Discover Network and our Network partnerships: China Union Pay, JCB, Diners Club International. They even have a Country Acceptance Map that includes Thailand.

https://www.discover.com/credit-cards/help-center/account/international-use.html?icmpgn=publichelpcenter

However, the map states that JCB is Japan Only and China Union Pay is Mainland China Only. That only leaves Diners Club network for Thailand. There are ATM's that accept Diners Club cards in Bangkok according to their site:

https://www.dinersclubcash.com/locator/searchSubmit.do

[LA Guy 5]

Visa or Master Card, Discover?

Is one CC accepted more over the other one in BKK??I haven't had any problem with Visa or Master Card in Bangkok. I haven't tried Discover and don't use AMEX there owing to their 2. 7 percent foreign currency conversion fee (which they have recently removed from their Delta branded card, however). I tend to use Chase cards or Capital One cards owing to their lack of foreign currency conversion fees although it is possible some, but a minority, of the Chase CC's still assess this.

One issue that I have not yet experienced in Bangkok, but have very occasionally in Indonesia, is some stores only accept credit cards that have smart chips embedded in them. I suspect this may become a growing trend in Asia so if you have a credit card with a smart chip it would be worth carrying that as backup if not your primary card. But as above, this has not yet been an issue for me in Bangkok although I wouldn't be shocked if at some point it becomes one.

[MichaelSamuel]

I haven't had any problem with Visa or Master Card in Bangkok. I haven't tried Discover and don't use AMEX there owing to their 2. 7 percent foreign currency conversion fee (which they have recently removed from their Delta branded card, however). I tend to use Chase cards or Capital One cards owing to their lack of foreign currency conversion fees although it is possible some, but a minority, of the Chase CC's still assess this.

One issue that I have not yet experienced in Bangkok, but have very occasionally in Indonesia, is some stores only accept credit cards that have smart chips embedded in them. I suspect this may become a growing trend in Asia so if you have a credit card with a smart chip it would be worth carrying that as backup if not your primary card. But as above, this has not yet been an issue for me in Bangkok although I wouldn't be shocked if at some point it becomes one.I have traveled through Europe and Asia with a Visa card and rarely had any problems. Some merchants and in particular automated kiosks will only take cards with chips though. A number of issuers are putting chips on their cards now though so it's not hard to find one just make sure you get one without the foreign exchange fees as well. Citi Hilton Reserve would be a good example. A travel blog site for points and redemption information I really like is milevalue.com. Last year got 2 free nights at the HK Conrad and this year flying free to and from HK first / business on cathay from cards and tips I picked up from the site.

[Sunlover2]

Visa or Master Card, Discover?

Is one CC accepted more over the other one in BKK??I have gone to all cash on my trips. No footprints. Pristine $100 USD bills get the best exchange rates at the money changers. Debit cards for ATM cash if the bankroll runs out. Credit cards are the emergency last choice option.

SunLover.

[TomSf]

I have gone to all cash on my trips. No footprints. Pristine $100 USD bills get the best exchange rates at the money changers. Debit cards for ATM cash if the bankroll runs out. Credit cards are the emergency last choice option.

SunLover.Going on a trip you need to plan for the unexpected. I bring $1000 for every week I am there. So if I go for 3 weeks I bring 3000 in Hundreds. Yes, it sucks carrying all that cash. But, maybe your debit card does not work. Which happened to me before! Or you bring all $100's and exchange places will not except your 100's because they do not except certain years it was printed. Or they don't accept old hundreds or new hundreds. All of these situations have happened to me before. So bottom line is you need to have back up plans in place. Have money in multiple places also.

[Allover]

I have gone to all cash on my trips. No footprints. Pristine $100 USD bills get the best exchange rates at the money changers. Debit cards for ATM cash if the bankroll runs out. Credit cards are the emergency last choice option.

SunLover.I carry a Schwab debit card, a Chase credit card, a Capital One Credit card and a few traveler checks on each trip. I always keep the traveler checks separate from my cards. The debit and credit cards are free to use. No bank charges or foreign exchange fees. I also carry cash but don't like carrying too much to avoid loss. I know guys that carry $5000-$6000 in cash and lock in their in-room safe. Staff can steal from in-room safes. Don't bring a lot of cash. Bring cards, debit or credit, that allow you to access your money without paying fees.

[Carlos Primeros]

I carry only pristine 100 USD notes or 100 Euro notes. No footprint is left. I pay cash and good-bye.

Carlos.

[Simon Wagstaff]

I carry only pristine 100 USD notes or 100 Euro notes. No footprint is left. I pay cash and good-bye.

Carlos.But sometimes I have had issues when traveling trying to use large bills. Many people are suspicious of counterfeit notes, especially outside the USA.

[Jgm005]

I carry only pristine 100 USD notes or 100 Euro notes. No footprint is left. I pay cash and good-bye.

Carlos.No way in ISIS hell would I carry around ONLY Cash. Specially since I am in LOS every three months for three months at a crack. Like 'Allover' it is Capital One CC, Schwab ATM and State Farm ATM. All fees re-imbursed and no conversion fee.

[Syzygies]

Is anyone getting laid? I would just point out there is the General Thread for non-mongering topics or non Bangkok topics.

I visited Crazy House today. I would say standard of girl looks has improved again after being a bit down a few weeks ago.

Was fun having two girls on my lap. Only got to fuck one as they were too shy to go together. LOL.

[PinkPearl]

Is anyone getting laid? I would just point out there is the General Thread for non-mongering topics or non Bangkok topics.

I visited Crazy House today. I would say standard of girl looks has improved again after being a bit down a few weeks ago.

Was fun having two girls on my lap. Only got to fuck one as they were too shy to go together. LOL.Natty Bumpo, apparently, or the guy just enjoys writing erotic fictions. Keep your eyes open for a new title at the book stores in 2015: "Food & Fuck, but mostly food, in SEA".

The NEP street scene is IMO the best it's ever been in all the years since 2007. Hotter girls, better service, young ones replacing oldies. I haven't had a lame session yet, after taking mostly those I never had before, which is either very unusual or extremely lucky. Almost all the ladies from 3 years ago are gone, so it's pretty much a completely new lineup.

They are being discouraged from sitting by the Nana hotel or standing on the car park, while more are seen along the sidewalk between the two seven eleven stores. Anecdotal evidence indicates they may be pushing for a few hundred extra baht & condom use.

[Vedado Fun]

Is anyone getting laid? I would just point out there is the General Thread for non-mongering topics or non Bangkok topics.

I visited Crazy House today. I would say standard of girl looks has improved again after being a bit down a few weeks ago.

Was fun having two girls on my lap. Only got to fuck one as they were too shy to go together. LOL.Wrong thread. This one is about cash, etc. LOL.

[Fun Filled]

Due to police pressure all the clubs are getting closed at 2 AM. Now you can't party till 5 in morning. Not a single after hours club is open these days, Its better to go to Pattaya if you like to party till morning like me.

[Syzygies]

police presence is high in soi cowboy right now. girls in crazy house were not dancing completely naked, although they still have no knickers on. **** girls have been told not to show up to work, i believe. fortunately there are still a lot left.

crazy house was pretty full of customers by 9pm. mostly japanese or similar looking asians, but maybe up to 30% westeners. it's strange that this place is so popular with japanese as the girls do not have the baccara plastic doll look. not much silicone implants and even not that many fake noses. superior young girls looks than many bars though. i don't recommend it as the best place to bf girls though. its rather hit or miss, with maybe more miss that hit. suzi wong girls are more reliable on the bed. fortunately i know one girl who is really good, and some reasonable backups.

i bfed a 19 yo. mamasan wanted me to meet the girl at the st hotel and not walk together there past the police, just in case of any problems. most bars are closed by 2 am.

[ActionOriented]

Saturday, 4th October.

Got into Bangkok by 6 pm and checked into the usual hotel Mac Boutique on soi 7. Since they seemed to be booked up fully I was upgraded to the presidential suite, woohoo, the room is on the top floor and is really big with an equally big drawing room area and two rest rooms. So the day (or rather evening) in Bangkok starts off on the right note. My friend did not want to bar fine from the Go-Gos tonight, so he ordered in Ana from Mango Massage, I had reviewed her in my last trip and he had a two hour session in his room. Once he was done, we set out for Saphan Kwai at around 11pm. Many thanks to Natty Bumpo for his excellent report on SK and additional inputs shared over PM. I was initially apprehensive in visiting a place so deep in local Thai territory but the place is not very difficult to locate. Get off at the Saphan Kwai BTS station and walk back the way you came and turn left on the first intersection which is the Suthisan Winitchai Road and walk in and at the T-junction take a right followed by an immediate left. Walk 50 metres down and the neon is plastered on one side of the street. We had thought to try out two places here, T Ded 99 and Music VDO. Music VDO could either not be spotted or it has closed down. We went into T Ded 99 and we probably got the most welcoming reception in any Go-Go ever in LOS. Big handicap in hunting in this area is knowing at least elementary Thai which would really make things simpler. The place is very dirty inside and almost falling apart but it was full of young Thai guys enjoying with girls on their laps just imagine soi Cowboy and take out the farangs and replace them with Thai guys. Not a single farang was to be seen and we were the only outsiders, the initial apprehensions disappeared and was now replaced by the interest in finding at least one girl to talk to. Language, as pointed out earlier, was the undoing. So I tried chatting with one girl but it was becoming pointless, there would have no point in bar fining someone with whom even mime would not have been effective.

We moved on walked up and down the street, could not locate Music VDO so we took a cab to soi Cowboy and we were there in 15 minutes. Cowboy was a little subdued (around 12:30pm) and I can confirm what Syzygies saw, several cops watching over the soi. Although no problems as such, because I walked by 4 cops in the middle of soi Cowboy with my bar fine and they didn't even look twice. Since I didn't go into SW or CH can't confirm the nude dancing thingy. I went into Bacarra and ended up bar fining here. I had decided after all the valuable learning at Pattaya that I would not buy any useless lady drinks only drinks necessary for my girl. The staff hadn't changed much and many of the familiar girls were in the line up at Bacarra. Although the girl that I had bar fined last time was no where to be seen. Anyways, the place as always had less farang and more Asian guys around. Girls were dressed in black bikinis and short skirts and another group was dressed in a blue shade bikini. I did not bother going up to the first floor because the girls in the reflection below appeared to be fully dressed and not very appealing. At Bacarra, I am usually required to wait it out for a girl to show some interest in me because first priority of business is to snag a Japanese. But I knew that I had made it in at a much later time and many would be desperate for a bar fine. So by the time I finished my first drink, Pim showed up and said hello. She wasn't pushy with a drink so I got her one. She appeared to have a genial personality. After finishing her drink she went up to dance and she gave me permission to ogle at other girls whilst she was on stage but she did keep flirting with me from the stage. I was sitting on the bar stool near the bell. After her round, I told her that I could bar fine her if she liked, she said "up to me" but I needed to buy another drink for her, not because she wanted it, but apparently MMS doesn't let girls go unless two drinks hit the girls tab. Who knows how much of it is true. I ordered two tequilas and we downed the shots, she went up to change. I paid the bar fine and we walked out of Bacarra.

I felt a little hungry and told her my hotel was on soi 7 but would like to eat a little something before boom-boom. She thought and said that the owner of Bacarra has a restaurent on soi 7 called New Wave Inn. I was fine with it, it's not like I had any understanding of Thai food. I told her to take care of that aspect, just told her what meat I did not want. She ordered chicken rice, a yummy soup similar to Tom Yum and a plate of raw oysters served on ice. It was an interesting meal. During dinner I enquired what her thinking was in respect of the punters that visit Bacarra and she told me that in her opinion (and also what some girls think) first choice always is Japanese (no big news), second was farang (this was new) and third was Korean (because apparently some of them can be cheap). No point asking about Indians, since not too many bar fine from here LOL (I could be one of the few suckers). I asked what about the Chinese, she says that they prefer to go on to soi 18 and watch LB shows and they do not bar fine much in any case. It was good to confirm my initial suspicions. But what sucked about the dinner was not the food but that my bill was padded with a 200 baht service charge and I had a sneaky feeling this was not charged to other customers. I went out for a smoke after check bin and she stood to chat with the staff. She came out and showed me that the restaurant had given her 315 baht and she was very happy, she says it was tip from the boss for getting Baccara customer to restaurant. I then went onto explain to her how it that money was collected from my pocket and handed to her. She genuinely seemed upset but did not offer the money back to me. In any case, I would not have accepted, I was just trying to make a point. I had decided then that no matter how good the service, she would not get a tip, because she had already made an extra 300 baht.

We got back to the room and we got into the shower, after which I went down on her and she was excited by it and did not want it to stop. However, I had to stop after a while because my jaw was locking up with the DATY. We made out but BJ was covered which is OK, her choice. She claimed to be 24 years old, I have my doubts seemed to be 26. In any case, the romp in bed was good, she was a sport and had a tight pussy. Cowgirl was the most difficult position as I was facing several obstructions and I usually like to finish in this position. Anyways, ultimately we did just that. Since the deal was for short time, we finished up and she had to go back to her apartment. So I walked her down the soi and found her a cab and put her in. Now to get some sleep after a good quality session with a quality Baccara girl.

[Goatscrot]

Due to police pressure all the clubs are getting closed at 2 AM. Now you can't party till 5 in morning. Not a single after hour club is open these days, Its better to go to.

Pattaya if you like to party till morning like me.As a local I like the early closings. Far easier to pull a FL gal at a reasonable time.

[TempStories]

Hi AO,

I am in BKK also, have sent you a PM. If free, please respond.


Saturday, 4th October.

Got into Bangkok by 6 pm and checked into the usual hotel Mac Boutique on soi 7. Since they seemed to be booked up fully I was upgraded to the presidential suite, woohoo, the room is on the top floor and is really big with an equally big drawing room area and two rest rooms. So the day (or rather evening) in Bangkok starts off on the right note. My friend did not want to bar fine from the Go-Gos tonight, so he ordered in Ana from Mango Massage, I had reviewed her in my last trip and he had a two hour session in his room. Once he was done, we set out for Saphan Kwai at around 11pm. Many thanks to Natty Bumpo for his excellent report on SK and additional inputs shared over PM. I was initially apprehensive in visiting a place so deep in local Thai territory but the place is not very difficult to locate. Get off at the Saphan Kwai BTS station and walk back the way you came and turn left on the first intersection which is the Suthisan Winitchai Road and walk in and at the T-junction take a right followed by an immediate left. Walk 50 metres down and the neon is plastered on one side of the street. We had thought to try out two places here, T Ded 99 and Music VDO. Music VDO could either not be spotted or it has closed down. We went into T Ded 99 and we probably got the most welcoming reception in any Go-Go ever in LOS. Big handicap in hunting in this area is knowing at least elementary Thai which would really make things simpler. The place is very dirty inside and almost falling apart but it was full of young Thai guys enjoying with girls on their laps just imagine soi Cowboy and take out the farangs and replace them with Thai guys..

[PinkPearl]

Panthip is a butt-kicking. Go to Fortune Town. You will find just about everything you would find at Panthip, and you don't have to hassle with the crowds. It is right at the Rama IX MRT stop as well. Bonus- Head right across the street to Central Rama IX for some food and to gaze at women.I was at Siam the other day as it was recommended over ripoff MBK by a Thai professional in the industry. There was a Samsung / Galaxy shop on the 3rd floor, then clustered together directly above it 3 shops on the 4th floor. IT City, Jamart & Powermall. Powermall had Acer 7 inch tablets from only 3290 baht. Samsung had phones from 590.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/764271-why-mbk/

[Mogwai]

As a local I like the early closings. Far easier to pull a FL gal at a reasonable time.To quote a famous football (soccer) player: every disadvantage has its advantage!

[Syzygies]

In any case, the romp in bed was good, she was a sport and had a tight pussy. Cowgirl was the most difficult position as I was facing several obstructions and I usually like to finish in this position. Anyways, ultimately we did just that. Some girls I cannot fuck due to foam sponge stuffed up the pussy making available pussy size too small, and creating a non smooth feel. Is that what you mean by obstructions?

I am a little surprised as you write as though Pim chose you. I am generally too fussy and like to decide which girl interests me, rather than just one that shows up. Maybe you got lucky and she just happened to be your spec or are not that fussy. I try to pick ones that may not be typical Japanese spec. Lacking silly hair, silicones, ops in general, and maybe even tanned skin. I still get refusals from girls that have their eye on some other guy, who did not yet BF them, of course. However that is no big deal. We get used to it. Actually its rare I go to Baccara any more. Just not enough girls of my type.

[TempStories]

Tried her today. She looks a Bengali with large eyes, cute looking school girl kind of face, very thin (not for people looking for big / medium size jugs). People from India will understand what girls from Bengal look like.

She is 2 weeks into the system. Apparently I was the first one in her ass and what a experience it was. She was almost crying but did not say anything to stop me. It took several attempts before making my way into her ass. But once I was inside, I was in no mood to come out. Spent 90 min for standard massage rate. Overall a great experience. With hits in a row, my regard for snow white has gone up.

[Muttley81]

Due to police pressure all the clubs are getting closed at 2 AM. Now you can't party till 5 in morning. Not a single after hour club is open these days, Its better to go to.

Pattaya if you like to party till morning like me.Went to Soi Cowboy last night and Nana night before. Any ideas why Cowboy is being hit so much harder? At Nana there was still topless dancing, but at Cowboy all girls in Sharks were forced to wear nipple tassels and in Suzi Wongs they didn't even have the shows on let alone nude dancing. Very disappointed in that, it's my favourite gogo.

Also, what should ST and LT prices be? We were quoted 3000 and 5000 respectively, without any option of bartering in Sharks. Girls said it was 'the new rules' and they couldn't do anything. In the end went for ST but I liked her enough that she stayed LT. More detailed report to follow later on that.

[Wolvenvacht]

Went to Soi Cowboy last night and Nana night before. Any ideas why Cowboy is being hit so much harder? At Nana there was still topless dancing, but at Cowboy all girls in Sharks were forced to wear nipple tassels and in Suzi Wongs they didn't even have the shows on let alone nude dancing. Very disappointed in that, it's my favourite gogo.Different police district?


Also, what should ST and LT prices be? We were quoted 3000 and 5000 respectively, without any option of bartering in Sharks. Girls said it was 'the new rules' and they couldn't do anything. In the end went for ST but I liked her enough that she stayed LT. More detailed report to follow later on that.5555+ You are too funny!

New rule? Not at all. It is the age old rule of telling the farang anything whatsoever to transfer his money to her.

[Traveler1234]

Natty Bumpo, apparently, or the guy just enjoys writing erotic fictions. Keep your eyes open for a new title at the book stores in 2015: "Food & Fuck, but mostly food, in SEA".How many chapters did you read? LOL ;)

[ActionOriented]

Some girls I cannot fuck due to foam sponge stuffed up the pussy making available pussy size too small, and creating a non smooth feel. Is that what you mean by obstructions?

I am a little surprised as you write as though Pim chose you. I am generally too fussy and like to decide which girl interests me, rather than just one that shows up. Maybe you got lucky and she just happened to be your spec or are not that fussy. I try to pick ones that may not be typical Japanese spec. Lacking silly hair, silicones, ops in general, and maybe even tanned skin. I still get refusals from girls that have their eye on some other guy, who did not yet BF them, of course. However that is no big deal. We get used to it. Actually its rare I go to Baccara any more. Just not enough girls of my type.Not sure I meant padding in the foamy sense, because I didn't find any such thing there, I did finger her and DATY her for a while so I guess that wasn't the obstruction. During cowgirl it seemed like I was missing the target several times and ended up hitting the not the hole or hitting it only partially, which is why I sensed some obstruction.

In Bacarra, as the girls have their eyes for only a select few kinds of punters, it was just that she made the first approach and I had turned down a hostess before that. But it is generally hard to attract the attention of some girls at this place. At least Pim did not have fake boobs, a nose job or anything of the type, seemed quite natural that ways. Two small tatoos.

[Goatscrot]

Went to Soi Cowboy last night and Nana night before. Any ideas why Cowboy is being hit so much harder? At Nana there was still topless dancing, but at Cowboy all girls in Sharks were forced to wear nipple tassels and in Suzi Wongs they didn't even have the shows on let alone nude dancing. Very disappointed in that, it's my favourite gogo.

Also, what should ST and LT prices be? We were quoted 3000 and 5000 respectively, without any option of bartering in Sharks. Girls said it was 'the new rules' and they couldn't do anything. In the end went for ST but I liked her enough that she stayed LT. More detailed report to follow later on that.3 k ST? Obscene. Really just ridiculous.

[Syzygies]

There was no nude dancing also in Suzi Wong and no shows since Saturday night similar to Crazy House not having nude dancing. I heard that Police were asking for increased payments. This was refused by some places on Cowboy as business is not good and they can't afford it. Hence some clubs get targeted and closed down some evenings. The police are basically there because they want money. Nana is controlled by different Police group as far as I know.

[Steve7777]

There was no nude dancing also in Suzi Wong and no shows since Saturday night similar to Crazy House not having nude dancing. I heard that Police were asking for increased payments. This was refused by some places on Cowboy as business is not good and they can't afford it. Hence some clubs get targeted and closed down some evenings. The police are basically there because they want money. Nana is controlled by different Police group as far as I know.This is what's wrong with the corruption as a rule business model. The corrupt will only want to grow their share if they see success! It will never end. They eventually kill the goose with the golden eggs. Everybody loses.

I hear Crazy House employed girls that were unemployable anywhere else. Now that the girls have been told to take a hike when will the other bad type girls be forced out? Leaving another run of the mill bar.

[Wolvenvacht]

There was no nude dancing also in Suzi Wong and no shows since Saturday night similar to Crazy House not having nude dancing. I heard that Police were asking for increased payments. This was refused by some places on Cowboy as business is not good and they can't afford it. Hence some clubs get targeted and closed down some evenings. The police are basically there because they want money. Nana is controlled by different Police group as far as I know.Ain't it funny? In the wake of the government's campaign against filth and corruption, actually new opportunities to get some extra tea-money are found!

[Muttley81]

Different police district?

5555+ You are too funny!

New rule? Not at all. It is the age old rule of telling the farang anything whatsoever to transfer his money to her.Thanks, but I wasn't trying to be. Haha. I'm not that naïve to believe everything they said but in Sharks all the girls were saying exactly the same thing and not willing to negotiate at all. They just stated its the rules and shrugged. With the increased police presence at end of street I wondered if the girls are having to give bigger take to bar now, so are all going high. Just seemed very coordinated and not a girl trying to get more money. More fool me.

[Syzygies]

Ain't it funny? In the wake of the government's campaign against filth and corruption, actually new opportunities to get some extra tea-money are found!A large portion of the police force is known to be corrupt. They are really just criminals on the "right" side of the law. Often people get framed up for crimes as its much easier than finding the real culprits. Its great for Police when activities in Cowboy are not strictly legal. Police can either get a big earnings boost or just shut them down.

E. g. Police are coming. Person with drugs quickly stashes it in someone else's bag. That innocent person then does a couple of years for high drug possession. Police are known to plant the evidence themselves when they want to get someone.

The number of Farangs involved in murders or "suicides" in Thailand that do get properly investigated or reported is extraordinary.

Stay well clear of trouble,

[Fun Filled]

As a local I like the early closings. Far easier to pull a FL gal at a reasonable time.Definitely its buyers market these days cause business is low, not enough tourist and every thing shutting down early. But I see one negative side of it also the.

Class of girls who use to go to clubs after finishing there work (Waitress in restaurants and Bars, support staff in restaurant, saloon girl, massage parlour girls.

Soapy girls) are out of market and business. These girls usually used to finish there work past midnight and then hit the after hours club around 2 just to make some easy money specially if they got off next day.

Second class of the girls who are out of market are 9-5 office going girls who used to go to party with there friends on weekend and once little drunk and horny.

They used to hit after hours club instead of going home and want to have some fun. Fun + money. Life can't be better.

And I miss those type of girls. Specially 5-9 office going girls on weekend.

[Steve7777]

Long wordy posts about prostitutes are just painful to read. I tried but just couldn't bear it. If you want us to read keep it short and concise. Highlight the funny parts. Good day!

[Wolvenvacht]

Thanks, but I wasn't trying to be. Haha. I'm not that nave to believe everything they said but in Sharks all the girls were saying exactly the same thing and not willing to negotiate at all. They just stated its the rules and shrugged. With the increased police presence at end of street I wondered if the girls are having to give bigger take to bar now, so are all going high. Just seemed very coordinated and not a girl trying to get more money. More fool me.Maybe the bargirls decided to become a member of the United Thai Bargirl Union and now can only work according to union scales?

Buddha knows what else they think of next: max. fucking time of 15 minutes followed by a compulsory 5 minute break; must use Union approved condoms (sold by the Southern Thailand Amalgamated Latex Tapper chapters of the "Strength through Unity" Farmworker Union); all positions except misssionary are subject to a additional fee; all payments up front; a 10% "voluntary" payment to the "Bargirls on the rag" Support Fund will be asked; . . .

[David 2]

Long wordy posts about prostitutes are just painful to read. I tried but just couldn't bear it. If you want us to read keep it short and concise. Highlight the funny parts. Good day!Long wordy posts about prostitutes are EXACTLY why people read this forum. They help prepare us for upcoming trips, and give us valuable information about the latest trends in pricing, dining, hotels, transportation, and massage. I've been reading and contributing here for years, and although I wasn't blessed with the writing skills that some members have, I do try to post when I discover something valuable that may help other members.

There is a painless remedy for you reading these posts. Just ignore them.

And like my Momma used to say. If you don't have anything nice to say, just say nothing. Still very good advice.

[SirWilliam4]

Long wordy posts about prostitutes are just painful to read. I tried but just couldn't bear it. If you want us to read keep it short and concise. Highlight the funny parts. Good day!You must realize, of course, that with no reference to another post we have no idea who or what you are talking about.

SW.

[Run Mann]

You must realize, of course, that with no reference to another post we have no idea who or what you are talking about.

SW.If you scroll back you'll see what he's talking about but most people know how to skim, scan and read only what they want to read. Pretty much the same way they did it to Steve.

[Member #4698]

Bar: CH.
Girl: 19 years old. From Isan.
Name: Mee.
Face: 6. 5*.
Body: 7*.
Attitude: 7. 5*.
DFK: yes - 7*.
BBBJ: yes - 6*.
Clitoral Stimulation with my Dick: yes - 8*.
DATY: available, but did not partake.
BBFS: yes - 8*.
Price: ST - 2500 bt.
Tip: yes - 500 bt.
WIR: yes.

As a writer, the short report would sure save a lot of time, but it leaves out a lot of the nuance and detail. Hell, I could just write: CH - Good bar, lots of girls, some nudity, 2500bt ST. I am sure this is better for some members, but not all. Like David said, if you don't like the wordy detailed reports just skim over them or ignore them completely. It is up to you.

[Sammyt]

Maybe the bargirls decided to become a member of the United Thai Bargirl Union and now can only work according to union scales?

Buddha knows what else they think of next: max. fucking time of 15 minutes followed by a compulsory 5 minute break; must use Union approved condoms (sold by the Southern Thailand Amalgamated Latex Tapper chapters of the "Strength through Unity" Farmworker Union); all positions except misssionary are subject to a additional fee; all payments up front; a 10% "voluntary" payment to the "Bargirls on the rag" Support Fund will be asked; . . .I do hope not. The reason that men go with prostiutes is that women have unionized pussy. That's why most women hate prostitutes; they see them as scab labor crossing a picket line and selling it for what its worth.

[SirWilliam4]

Bar: CH.
Girl: 19 years old. From Isan.
Name: Mee.
Face: 6. 5*.
Body: 7*.
Attitude: 7. 5*.
DFK: yes - 7*.
BBBJ: yes - 6*.
Clitoral Stimulation with my Dick: yes - 8*.
DATY: available, but did not partake.
BBFS: yes - 8*.
Price: ST - 2500 bt.
Tip: yes - 500 bt.
WIR: yes.

As a writer, the short report would sure save a lot of time, but it leaves out a lot of the nuance and detail. Hell, I could just write: CH - Good bar, lots of girls, some nudity, 2500bt ST. I am sure this is better for some members, but not all. Like David said, if you don't like the wordy detailed reports just skim over them or ignore them completely. It is up to you.Very good, Natty. Perfect response. Meanwhile, just keep on writing as you have. Many of us enjoy -- and learn from -- your extensive reports.

SW4.

[Goatscrot]

Definitely its buyers market these days cause business is low, not enough tourist and every thing shutting down early. But I see one negative side of it also the.

Class of girls who use to go to clubs after finishing there work (Waitress in restaurants and Bars, support staff in restaurant, saloon girl, massage parlour girls.

Soapy girls) are out of market and business. These girls usually used to finish there work past midnight and then hit the after hours club around 2 just to make some easy money specially if they got off next day.

Second class of the girls who are out of market are 9-5 office going girls who used to go to party with there friends on weekend and once little drunk and horny.

They used to hit after hours club instead of going home and want to have some fun. Fun + money. Life can't be better.

And I miss those type of girls. Specially 5-9 office going girls on weekend.Could not agree with you more. Increased salaries throughout every sector in Thailand has pretty much killed the semi-pro or part-timer market. Thermae used to attract office gals who would head out a few times a month to supplement their small salaries. These gals were my bread and butter for years. Since they already made some money they could afford to be a bit choosy as far as who they went with. So you would normally have a horny fun gal! With higher wages they no longer need this extra money.

Even restaurant and shopping mall staff can now make a living on their salaries.

What's left? The pros who are either too lazy or not smart enough to do anything else.

Of course most of my younger friends (dudes in their 20's and early 30's) are not active in the P4 P scene here at all, rather opting for "regular" girls who are quite easy if you are young, decent looking, and have a bit of cash. Drawback is they are becoming more and more similar to Western chicks as far as expectations and level of maintenance. Certainly not what I moved here for.

The "scene" we so loved will continue to decline as the country develops. P4 P will get more expensive (hell dudes are already paying close to 100 USD for a ST when you add in the BF), less fun, and the gals in the biz will become less desirable. Combined with certain coming crackdowns on the biz, my guess is in another 10 years you will see two classes of working girl: high end and street girls. The middle ground that made being here so fun will continue to disappear. Hey, don't get me wrong, I think it is great that gals have more choices these days and don't have to work as prostitutes if they don't want to. But, sadly that greatly reduces our fun as hobbyists. For now, I just enjoy the oilies and the occasional FL.

[Guido88]

Long wordy posts about prostitutes are EXACTLY why people read this forum. They help prepare us for upcoming trips, and give us valuable information about the latest trends in pricing, dining, hotels, transportation, and massage. I've been reading and contributing here for years, and although I wasn't blessed with the writing skills that some members have, I do try to post when I discover something valuable that may help other members.

There is a painless remedy for you reading these posts. Just ignore them.

And like my Momma used to say. If you don't have anything nice to say, just say nothing. Still very good advice.Absolutely right on target.

IMHO A mongering trip is all aspects of traveling, mongering, culture, cuisine and the friends you make in the process.

Guido88.

[Syzygies]

Long wordy posts about prostitutes are just painful to read. I find long wordy reports that are not about the girl or the monger place, rather touristy experiences in Thailand, are the most boring reports. E. g. What he had for breakfast or booking the Hotel, travelling from the airport, etc. Would be great if the rambling reports not about the girls were in a special thread. However we do have the right to just skim over them or avoid reading them altogether, so if it entertains the bored people, why not?

Anyway, I encourage people to use the General Thread for stuff not really about mongering in Bangkok, or keep it fairly brief.

[Syzygies]

Could not agree with you more. Increased salaries throughout every sector in Thailand has pretty much killed the semi-pro or part-timer market. Thermae used to attract office gals who would head out a few times a month to supplement their small salaries. I know this report will make some guys angry. I don't care.

Taking freelancer girls is a risk. I hardly ever see stunning ones. A few good looking ones spotted in Nana car park, but I hardly ever go there. Never really saw a stunner in Beergarten however only went a limited number of times. I don't have time and energy to do discos much. Maybe Bangkok Beat is a good option for me.Convenient and small and not too dark.

Being a free lancer or indeed a working girl is quite dangerous. There are significant numbers of cases of girls being beaten up or even murdered. So not getting paid is not the worst thing that can happen to a girl. The customer can seem charming at first.

I know of working girls that largely focus on their regular customers, and are reluctant to take a guy who they only just met. On of my very pretty bargirls, has a long list of regulars, and says she hardly takes on an unknown guy. She will know pretty much how long the guy will take for ST, how much HE will pay, etc. And be able to weigh up whether this customer is helping optimize her earnings per hour and per thrust. She is willing to take a very good customer for several days at a non-optimal rate, even though she knows she could make more money, since she will get some rest from the pounding.

Being able to be choosy and having too many customers is a good reason for a girl to work the bar instead of an Oily MP. She makes very good money indeed for her house building project. She controls how much pounding she has to take. She knows I am a little difficult, but maintains me as a regular, only because I am nice, do not pound forcefully, and always willing to fit into unusual time slots, and will give me long time on occasions when multiple STs are probably not a good bet. I have no illusions. She is a business woman, but can still let herself go on the bed. Her attitude is make money but still try to have some fun at times.

I lament that the prices in Oily MPs are largely stuck for many years, while others rejoice this. The problem is it gets more and more difficult to find pretty girls wanting to take an all day pounding in an MP. If they are stunning, surely they will be very busy, too busy. Oilies are great for guys who don't much care about the face, and can fuck almost anything. However its not as good as 7 or 8 years ago when I could find several very pretty top performers.

I used to do Cat from Mango who had a cute face, even if body not perfect. She used to tell me she disliked well over 50% of her regular customers. There were too many "psycho" like customers who wanted to do sick things to a girl. She left the scene not that long later, perhaps having found a sugar daddy, who knows.

I think over time, the better looking girls are migrating more to the bar scene, and so am I, as they can choose the customer, and make better money per period of pussy pounding. Sure the bar scene is too expensive, but I can take time to study girls carefully for long periods before choosing.

Obviously I am far more looks oriented than service oriented. When Angie was at Cherry, I did not care if the service was only mediocre, as the body was stunning and face pretty good. I also used to do Gaew at Pink, due to the looks and just average service. Bai Fern at Yoremichi was stunning and a hell of a lot of fun. Aor at Annies had a stunning body pre augmentation. These girls disappeared, and have been hard to replace. The Oily MPs don't really have much in the stunning department any more. I blame the prices being stuck for contributing to this problem. Its good that June has returned giving me another fairly good looking option, and a sure good time. There are some other options, but I don't really have any stunning Oily girl right now.

I hear that places start to charge extra for anal as a way for girl to make increased money. This is understandable.

There was a stunning girl Nat at Crazy House with amazing high tits that defied gravity but no silicone. Body was a 10 and face 9. Reported to have been a bi-sexual with a Tom girlfriend. Was quite good on the bed. Unfortunately she disappeared too. I would be happy to pay extra for her every time.

For me it becomes meaningless to fuck plain looking girls (outside the top 5% and I don't even waste time to do them for free any more. Girls with both fake noses and sillies are a dime a dozen.

[Goatscrot]

I know this report will make some guys angry. I don't care.

Taking freelancer girls is a risk. I hardly ever see stunning ones. A few good looking ones spotted in Nana car park, but I hardly ever go there. Never really saw a stunner in Beergarten however only went a limited number of times. I don't have time and energy to do discos much. Maybe Bangkok Beat is a good option for me.Convenient and small and not too dark.

Being a free lancer or indeed a working girl is quite dangerous. There are significant numbers of cases of girls being beaten up or even murdered. So not getting paid is not the worst thing that can happen to a girl. The customer can seem charming at first.

I know of working girls that largely focus on their regular customers, and are reluctant to take a guy who they only just met. On of my very pretty bargirls, has a long list of regulars, and says she hardly takes on an unknown guy. She will know pretty much how long the guy will take for ST, how much HE will pay, etc. And be able to weigh up whether this customer is helping optimize her earnings per hour and per thrust. She is willing to take a very good customer for several days at a non-optimal rate, even though she knows she could make more money, since she will get some rest from the pounding.

Being able to be choosy and having too many customers is a good reason for a girl to work the bar instead of an Oily MP. She makes very good money indeed for her house building project. She controls how much pounding she has to take. She knows I am a little difficult, but maintains me as a regular, only because I am nice, do not pound forcefully, and always willing to fit into unusual time slots, and will give me long time on occasions when multiple STs are probably not a good bet. I have no illusions. She is a business woman, but can still let herself go on the bed. Her attitude is make money but still try to have some fun at times.

I lament that the prices in Oily MPs are largely stuck for many years, while others rejoice this. The problem is it gets more and more difficult to find pretty girls wanting to take an all day pounding in an MP. If they are stunning, surely they will be very busy, too busy. Oilies are great for guys who don't much care about the face, and can fuck almost anything. However its not as good as 7 or 8 years ago when I could find several very pretty top performers.

I used to do Cat from Mango who had a cute face, even if body not perfect. She used to tell me she disliked well over 50% of her regular customers. There were too many "psycho" like customers who wanted to do sick things to a girl. She left the scene not that long later, perhaps having found a sugar daddy, who knows.

I think over time, the better looking girls are migrating more to the bar scene, and so am I, as they can choose the customer, and make better money per period of pussy pounding. Sure the bar scene is too expensive, but I can take time to study girls carefully for long periods before choosing.

Obviously I am far more looks oriented than service oriented. When Angie was at Cherry, I did not care if the service was only mediocre, as the body was stunning and face pretty good. I also used to do Gaew at Pink, due to the looks and just average service. Bai Fern at Yoremichi was stunning and a hell of a lot of fun. Aor at Annies had a stunning body pre augmentation. These girls disappeared, and have been hard to replace. The Oily MPs don't really have much in the stunning department any more. I blame the prices being stuck for contributing to this problem. Its good that June has returned giving me another fairly good looking option, and a sure good time. There are some other options, but I don't really have any stunning Oily girl right now.

I hear that places start to charge extra for anal as a way for girl to make increased money. This is understandable.

There was a stunning girl Nat at Crazy House with amazing high tits that defied gravity but no silicone. Body was a 10 and face 9. Reported to have been a bi-sexual with a Tom girlfriend. Was quite good on the bed. Unfortunately she disappeared too. I would be happy to pay extra for her every time.

For me it becomes meaningless to fuck plain looking girls (outside the top 5% and I don't even waste time to do them for free any more. Girls with both fake noses and sillies are a dime a dozen.Guess I have gone the other way as I age. I will take a 7 who performs like a 10 over a 10 that performs like a 7. I have very little use for gals that don't perfect their skill set.

I will say that the "looks" level at the PSE oilies has been on the decline for a couple of years now. No doubt about it. That is because they can make more for doing less in other places. Sadly most punters accept what they get. If a gal does not perform they pay her the money and go on about it and she has learned that she does not have to provide good service.

Gogos, meh, overpriced weak drinks and all the annoying young coyote dancers who think they are a great gift to the world. No way I would pay over 100 USD for the privilege of a ST with them. Doubt they would come even close to what I expect performance wise. Now if they performed like Macau sauna gals I would gladly pay that. But paying a lot more for less just does not sit well with me.

Truth be told 15 years ago many of the gogo gals looked every bit as good as most coyotes do now. All the coyote thing has done is add another level of expense.

Enjoy it while it lasts, because sooner than you think the gals in the gogos will be making enough money dancing and will not have to go with customers at all. Some of the long time bar owners I know see this as the future. Lap dancing bars like the US.

Again, it is all about the economy and salaries in Thailand. The FL scene was amazing here after the crash until the mid-'00's. I hardly ever took a full time P4 P gal back then. Now I rarely take a FL gal due to huge disappointments over the past few years. They don't want to kiss, don't want to be fingered, want to blow me with a condom, don't want to be eaten, etc. And when I pop up, call off the session, and get dressed, and leave 'them 100 baht they look so confused. I explain to them that I expect sex like in a porno or like with their boyfriend and they look completely dumbfounded. I am the one who is amazed. Dudes actually accept this service and pay for it? Luckily I still have a few oily gals that are ok to look at and perform like nymphomaniac porn stars. They will tell you stories about their sexual exploits, finger themselves in all holes, love to be rimmed and to rim, and seem to live for down and dirty sex. My kind of gal. I will add that most of these gals are late 20s and up. The younger ones just have not hit their sexual stride. Hey, I love looking at those early 20 gals but have found most to be pretty useless between the sheets. Last thing I want to do is train. I want a very experienced gal.

Scenes change, and you are getting less service for more money planet wide. It is not just a phenom with the Thai P4 P scene. The above mentioned saunas are one of the few places that take the time to train their gals and where you will get expert service and great looks.

So glad I was able to experience the end of the golden era here and in Cambo. It was really fun. Guess that is one of the main elements missing from the scene now. The fun. Your paragraph about baht per thrust just hammers that point home. Every night used to be a party; whether in gogos, Thermae, or Nana Disco. Gals would go out, party, and most nights make 1k. Now it is all about business. And it becomes work for the punter as well.

[Sunlover2]

Guess I have gone the other way as I age. I will take a 7 who performs like a 10 over a 10 that performs like a 7. I have very little use for gals that don't perfect their skill set.I agree here as I hold attitude / performance twice as important as looks. Mathematically it looks like this:

Looks 10 and performance 7: ((10 x1)+(7*2))/3 = 8 overall.

Looks 7 and performance 10: ((7 x1)+(10 x2))/3 = 9 overall.

SL.

[Steve7777]

I know this report will make some guys angry. I don't care.

Taking freelancer girls is a risk. I hardly ever see stunning ones. A few good looking ones spotted in Nana car park, but I hardly ever go there. Never really saw a stunner in Beergarten however only went a limited number of times. I don't have time and energy to do discos much. Maybe Bangkok Beat is a good option for me.Convenient and small and not too dark.

Being a free lancer or indeed a working girl is quite dangerous. There are significant numbers of cases of girls being beaten up or even murdered. So not getting paid is not the worst thing that can happen to a girl. The customer can seem charming at first.

I know of working girls that largely focus on their regular customers, and are reluctant to take a guy who they only just met. On of my very pretty bargirls, has a long list of regulars, and says she hardly takes on an unknown guy. She will know pretty much how long the guy will take for ST, how much HE will pay, etc. And be able to weigh up whether this customer is helping optimize her earnings per hour and per thrust. She is willing to take a very good customer for several days at a non-optimal rate, even though she knows she could make more money, since she will get some rest from the pounding..Suzies Wongs girls must be in the bottom 5% as far as looks go. Maybe its the lighting?

[Steve7777]

I agree here as I hold attitude / performance twice as important as looks. Mathematically it looks like this:

Looks 10 and performance 7: ((10 x1)+(7*2))/3 = 8 overall.

Looks 7 and performance 10: ((7 x1)+(10 x2))/3 = 9 overall.

SL.10's don't perform anywhere near a 7. And where are you finding 10's in the 1st place. Even 7's are har to find.

Lots of 4's, 5's, and 6's!

[Goatscrot]

I agree here as I hold attitude / performance twice as important as looks. Mathematically it looks like this:

Looks 10 and performance 7: ((10 x1)+(7*2))/3 = 8 overall.

Looks 7 and performance 10: ((7 x1)+(10 x2))/3 = 9 overall.

SL.Spot on. Love your math sir!

[Duniawala]

I know this report will make some guys angry. I don't care.
Taking freelancer girls is a risk. I hardly ever see stunning ones. A few good looking ones spotted in Nana car park, but I hardly ever go there. Never really saw a stunner in Beergarten however only went a limited number of times. I don't have time and energy to do discos much. Maybe Bangkok Beat is a good option for me.Convenient and small and not too dark.........................Syzygies, in all my years of having fun in LOS, I have never taken a girl from gogo places and very few from a bar. In fact, never been inside a gogo place, because the first one I tried to go into, turned me away. I was not farang enough. So that kind of pissed me off. I never had an issue with FLs and in fact quite a few of them became long time friends. A few from Thermae and none from Nana.

[FreebieFan]

As part of a larger trip I allowed myself a couple of days in BKK as its always fun and you just never know what will happen.

Arrived in hotel on soi 24 at 1 am, and feeling thirsty, I needed a beer. Walked to 7-11 and the beer freezer is locked. Thanks new government. Decided against replying to the mass of " people nearby" who were contacting me on wechat as most seemed to be ladyboys. Headed for bed alone.

Next day, bright and fresh, got my supplies of kamaga and went in search of happiness.

Walked up and down the small street of massage places between soi 24 and soi 26. Saw an interesting face, that wasnt pretty but was expressive.

Opted for a 90 minute session that was in a nice secluded upper floor area far way from anyone else.

The girl I chose had great English and as we talked it turned out she had back packed in Laos and Myanmar and was interesting with good english.

Eventually there was some accidental touching and I assured her, that all was good. A kiss or three followed, some nipple play by me bought about some gasps from her, and she responded with some great ball kissing and then one of my top 3 blow jobs ever. It was soo good. Gave a tip and advised said lady I would be back at 1 am to take her home. She was fine with that.

I had a wechat date arranged with a girl working in a Sukhumvit hotel, but couldn't find her in Asok as planned so was fine to do the normal Cowboy Nana routine.

Went back to the soi to meet the massage girl at about 1245. Some very large rats running around there, and a few boys on bikes picking up their ladies who had done a shift in the more japanese mps.

Took lady home and had a great blow again and a happy HJ in the morning. She was on period at the time.

As we had got on really well, with lots of laughter and smiles and great blow jobs (the porn star type, where she looks intensely in your eye as she's slurping and ball squeezing) I asked her on the spur of moment if she would like to join me in Pattaya a week later. She agreed. Taking a girl to Pattaya? Coals to Newcastle. Read on in PP and Pattaya section.

[Guido88]

I find long wordy reports that are not about the girl or the monger place, rather touristy experiences in Thailand, are the most boring reports. E. g. What he had for breakfast or booking the Hotel, travelling from the airport, etc. Would be great if the rambling reports not about the girls were in a special thread. However we do have the right to just skim over them or avoid reading them altogether, so if it entertains the bored people, why not?

Anyway, I encourage people to use the General Thread for stuff not really about mongering in Bangkok, or keep it fairly brief.Syzygies.

With all due respect.

What you find boring may be of help / interest to others. None of us are in the position to direct other posters on what to post, where to post nor dictate proper post size & approved content.

If a post is inappropriate Jackson will deal with it. You bring a wealth of mongering related experience. It's our loss you choose not share more of your combined experiences.

Guido88.

[FreebieFan]

Anyone know why the dear old Daily Mail (English newspaper) has been banned in Thailand. Well at least the online version has as of my last trip.

[Dusty Dog]

Anyone know why the dear old Daily Mail (English newspaper) has been banned in Thailand. Well at least the online version has as of my last trip.A few months ago the Daily Mail included a YouTube video related to Thailand that was unacceptable and has been blocked since.

[Syzygies]

Syzygies.

With all due respect.

What you find boring may be of help / interest to others. None of us are in the position to direct other posters on what to post, where to post nor dictate proper post size & approved content.

Guido88.I agree with you. I don't dictate anything. I merely suggest the forum would be better if non monger reports were in the general thread, so that people who don't want them don't have to go over them.

Also I just state what bores me. Its like casting a vote. I know it doesn't bore everyone. Others are welcome to say they love that touristy stuff.

So no need to be concerned about me giving my opinion. Everyone can give an opinion. We will never have everyone having the same view.

[Syzygies]

Syzygies, in all my years of having fun in LOS, I have never taken a girl from gogo places and very few from a bar. In fact, never been inside a gogo place, because the first one I tried to go into, turned me away. I was not farang enough. So that kind of pissed me off. I never had an issue with FLs and in fact quite a few of them became long time friends. A few from Thermae and none from Nana.Yes no worries. Each has their own preferences. I don't have anything against nice freelancers. I used to do Thermae girls a lot many years ago. I just gradually drifted away from free lancers due to different requirements, and difficulties to find what I was looking for.

[Syzygies]

Suzies Wongs girls must be in the bottom 5% as far as looks go. Maybe its the lighting?You have to learn to ignore the ugly ones. 90 to 95% don't interest me. There is one stunner and a few other acceptable girls, when they turn up. I you want great bodies with big tits included, its not the best place.

There are a lot of over weight young girls, who obviously have poor diet. I ignore those. I get very good performances and a lot of fun, from some acceptable (moderately pretty faced) looking girls there.

A number of bars have a very small number of good looking girls. Crazy House has a much bigger share of lookers, but finding a good performer is more difficult. Many girls are too young and not experienced.

[Syzygies]

Truth be told 15 years ago many of the gogo gals looked every bit as good as most coyotes do now. All the coyote thing has done is add another level of expense.

Enjoy it while it lasts, because sooner than you think the gals in the gogos will be making enough money dancing and will not have to go with customers at all. Some of the long time bar owners I know see this as the future. Lap dancing bars like the US.
I don't agree that gogo girls used to look as good as all the Coyote girls now, unless its the very plain Coyote girls, but I do agree that Coyote is a bad thing wrecking the gogo bar scene. I don't like Coyote bars nor to watch Coyote dancers. Coyote type hip gyrations do not do anything for me. I hate girls wearing bras or frilly stuff at the waist. Really spoils the curves. Even 25 years ago, the number of stunning bar girls was limited. I still have some old printed photos of some of them from that era. They were not that special looking, even though I would having being trying to select the prettiest. To a newbie it looked like a stunning array. We just weren't used to it.

Doll House is acceptable in that they have a very limited number of Coyote girls taking turns to dance outside front of house, and you can still bar fine them. However it's a pretty shitty bar all up. Its decline is probably mostly due to owner, manager, mamasan, and too many silly rules.

I also agree that most bars are not very exciting and not worthy of a regular visit, unless you go to get specific girls, or just to relax and perve while taking a drink or too. I am warped in that I still like looking at naked girls, even if won't be fucking them. Its a strange addiction. However in Crazy House I see plenty of other regular faces of guys with similar addiction. I have probably only BFed 4 girls where I was happy with the performance (not PSE). I have probably also taken 4 different girls that were not good enough to be worthwhile. It's not great odds, but can repeat good ones. I know several reliable girls at Suzi Wong though and like to take threesomes from there. Haven't tried a new girl at SW for a fairly long time.

I don't have the addiction to keep trying new girls. 90% of time I am repeating known girls. No great risk. I know what to expect.

[Goatscrot]

I don't agree that gogo girls used to look as good as all the Coyote girls now, unless its the very plain Coyote girls, but I do agree that Coyote is a bad thing wrecking the gogo bar scene. I don't like Coyote bars nor to watch Coyote dancers. Coyote type hip gyrations do not do anything for me. I hate girls wearing bras or frilly stuff at the waist. Really spoils the curves. Even 25 years ago, the number of stunning bar girls was limited. I still have some old printed photos of some of them from that era. They were not that special looking, even though I would having being trying to select the prettiest. To a newbie it looked like a stunning array. We just weren't used to it.

Doll House is acceptable in that they have a very limited number of Coyote girls taking turns to dance outside front of house, and you can still bar fine them. However it's a pretty shitty bar all up. Its decline is probably mostly due to owner, manager, mamasan, and too many silly rules.

I also agree that most bars are not very exciting and not worthy of a regular visit, unless you go to get specific girls, or just to relax and perve while taking a drink or too. I am warped in that I still like looking at naked girls, even if won't be fucking them. Its a strange addiction. However in Crazy House I see plenty of other regular faces of guys with similar addiction. I have probably only BFed 4 girls where I was happy with the performance (not PSE). I have probably also taken 4 different girls that were not good enough to be worthwhile. It's not great odds, but can repeat good ones. I know several reliable girls at Suzi Wong though and like to take threesomes from there. Haven't tried a new girl at SW for a fairly long time.

I don't have the addiction to keep trying new girls. 90% of time I am repeating known girls. No great risk. I know what to expect.I was always a fan of new girls. Often doing at least one to two new ones per week for my first 7 or so years here. Now that is not so easy. Of course I only partake about 3 times a month. Just not as fun really.

Been to CH a couple of times. I'll admit, some ok looking gals in there, but well, most are just a bit too young for my tastes.

[Syzygies]

i was always a fan of new girls. often doing at least one to two new ones per week for my first 7 or so years here. now that is not so easy. of course i only partake about 3 times a month. just not as fun really.

been to ch a couple of times. i'll admit, some ok looking gals in there, but well, most are just a bit too young for my tastes.there are some older girls too. one with chin length hair an sillies looks about 40 perhaps only 35. business is down with no nude dancing, but no knickers.

another theory about the reason fir lack of nudity, is that army are mixed with the police now, so bribing police is less easy. it is assumed that **** girls are not turning up to work, but i can't prove that.

[Goatscrot]

there are some older girls too. one with chin length hair an sillies looks about 40 perhaps only 35. business is down with no nude dancing, but no knickers.

another theory about the reason fir lack of nudity, is that army are mixed with the police now, so bribing police is less easy. it is assumed that **** girls are not turning up to work, but i can't prove that.my target age is mid-20's to early 30's. things are a changin' in thailand. that is for sure. will it last? who knows. business is down all over, not just in the p4p scene.

[OldBugger]

Isn't it strange that some mongers find beauty, fun and happiness wherever they go and some others will only see and experience ugliness, bad service and trouble?

Are Natty Bumpo and OldBugger talking about the same city?Wolvenvacht,

I find your response in Pattaya report highly friendly I want to answer you on question here. I tend to only write if I have a bad experience. When things are good I don't write. I have not felt to report on 100's of good experiences in Europe and US (I have had bad there too and reported on them on account I forget). When one of the working girls give me a hard time I want to cry for everyone to know, when I am happy as is most the case I am just happy. I also like Thailand a lot 15 years before but now every time I go, and I keep going because of memories, I find that they put fat fucks everywhere?! Always hanging at least little from stomach or from the side most not like whale but what I used to love in Thailand was good body? Is good for fuck? Maybe is a bit about expectations concerning your questions if you put the 90% the woman from Thailand in good brothel Berlin Nevada Sydney people would be so angry they will never go back!! It was not this way 15 year ago. Is the Thai are getting less guest friendly putting all their ugly daughters for the sex work!! IS a disgrace if you ask for me? I can go to Bangkok again for suckyfuck because can browse for 3 or 5 good girls of 500 in that scene but other I only go back swim in the beach drink of the coconut. I don't ever want to go Pattaya because make me depressed with the women 95% should be in atrocity museum and few silly doll face only shake ass outside don't take it in the pussy?

[Syzygies]

Wolvenvacht,

I find your response in Pattaya report highly friendly I want to answer you on question here. I tend to only write if I have a bad experience. When things are good I don't write. "The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women". That means many of us don't want to hear just your crying / complaining, but something more useful.

If you post mostly positive reports, then negatives will become more believable. Otherwise you could paint yourself as a person who just looks for trouble and rubs people up the wrong way. Some of us are mostly having a pretty good time and write accordingly. The best reports for me are those that recommend a particular place or girl and go into enough detail that I would have a clue if I would be interested in the same or similar thing to try out.

There is a special thread called "Places to Avoid" specially intended for complaints about bad places.

[RumBuddy]

"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women". That means many of us don't want to hear just your crying / complaining, but something more useful.

If you post mostly positive reports, then negatives will become more believable. Otherwise you could paint yourself as a person who just looks for trouble and rubs people up the wrong way. Some of us are mostly having a pretty good time and write accordingly. The best reports for me are those that recommend a particular place or girl and go into enough detail that I would have a clue if I would be interested in the same or similar thing to try out.

There is a special thread called "Places to Avoid" specially intended for complaints about bad places.Good point!

[PinkPearl]

Anyone know why the dear old Daily Mail (English newspaper) has been banned in Thailand. Well at least the online version has as of my last trip.I don't know. The past week or so msn USA and Canada has been substituted or redirected to a Thai language site of msn. Something to do with the recent Hong Kong protests, perhaps?

[Abagneil]

Hi guys!

Having posted some useful (I hope) posts on my home country Latvia, I 'd be happy to have some fresh advise on Thailand.

Basically it would be a trip in January to Bangkok, but further most of time a Beach holiday.

If you can, please make it short for me and you, by answering below key points:

1. Of course. Best City / district for finding girls. But in particular. If you can distinguish daily prostitutes from, say, students who go out only on weekends to "find a descent man"?

2. Is there much difference between Bangkok or any other Cities / Resorts in terms of variety of girls? Top destinations?

3. Do you think we it would be a big problem if we actually as a Couple (me and my GF) try to "charter" a Thai girl for night or week?

4. Do you recommend any dating sites before our trip, or street-action is way to go?

5. Price range. Overnight or longer?

Just to give little idea, on what we are looking for. Couple years ago we were in Cambodia capital Phom-Penn. And there we went out to central bars where usual businessman and students go (not a beach resort prostitution type of thing). And so. In those parties we found best girls so far. Very beautiful, welcoming and not expensive. We actually gave them money at the end by our own initiative. This experience was way different from usual prostitution. It was like visiting a 2nd girlfriend in Cambodia for a week. So this is what we look for in Thailand this time. First time.

[Syzygies]

2. Is there much difference between Bangkok or any other Cities / Resorts in terms of variety of girls? Top destinations?
Bangkok may have higher standard girls. Pattaya may be cheaper.



3. Do you think we it would be a big problem if we actually as a Couple (me and my GF) try to "charter" a Thai girl for night or week?
Try to get one for a short time first. If that is very good, can try for the night. Its crazy to take anyone for a week till you know them well. Try some bar like Suzi Wong or Massage place like Annies or Dr BJ Nuru and ask what bi-sexual girls they have. Suzi Wong has girls quite used to licking pussy. "Dtom" thinks she is good at it. I would not know (as don't have a pussy) but her BJ is good. Take out from a massage place could be a bit expensive, however I know Annies has a lesbian / bi-sexual (short hair with big tits) and I know Dr. BJ Nuru has a bi-sexual as well (slim small tits) named Phat (sounds like putt).



4. Do you recommend any dating sites before our trip, or street-action is way to go?
As you can see above there are other options.

[Syzygies]

Suzies Wongs girls must be in the bottom 5% as far as looks go. Maybe its the lighting?Checked out Suzi tonight. I was looking for a threesome. Even the mamasan admits most girls (close to all) are ugly. Only 2 or 3 doable, for my picky taste. Best looker in the house is away in the temple for "Awk Phansaa". Won't be back for at least a week. Another favourite Knot is also away for a few days. Her nice looking sister Em is missing. Bo is not working at all. Yao also away. Known girls are very limited. Mint is highly recommended by one waitress for good service, but her figure is not quite my spec. Face looks very nice though. One or two other girls generally considered quite cute but I haven't tried them before.

At 9:30 PM they decided to risk getting the girls naked. Scouts have a whistle in case Police approach. Its quite a shock when some girls take the bra off and reveal a bad set of sillies. Hey, Paul Kausch hasn't posted recently I think. His "hour glass" girl was there, with sillies, thick thighs, thick hips, flattish ass, not skinny at all. Not my taste, however many guys think she looks okay I could prefer a slim girl with no tits over a girl built like a tank. So tastes vary a lot. Paul would probably say my favourite girl (not present) has no meat on her, being many kilos less, only A cups.

At 10 pm They commenced doing a small number of shows. Magic appearing flower show, lesbian show, and I did not stay for any more shows, as one of my girls came from the lesbian show (a normal choice of mine).

Bar was quite quiet till girls got gear off and then customers started increasing to reasonable numbers. A lot of touristy types.

[Member #4698]

Checked out Suzi tonight. Best looker in the house is away in the temple for "Awk Phansaa". Won't be back for at least a week... my favourite girl (not present) has no meat on her, being many kilos less, only A cups.
S, as you know, I really dig your "Awk Phansaa" princess. She has got a smoking hot spinner body, a beautiful face, and a wonderful smile. But don't tell anyone about her. LOL. I will put it this way; any punter who happens to find himself in SW when she is working the stage will instantly know who we are talking about. Even Paul! Only D Cups would have a contrary opinion. 555.

Look, most girls in most Go Go's are not duable IMHO, although some girls may grow on you if you give them a chance because they possess warm winning personalities. It has always been that way. I went to my first BKK Go Go in 1989. I distinctly remember there were 2 stunners on the stage. I didn't give a fig about the rest of the 25 girls. I barfinned one of the 2 hot girls and she showed me a great time. So I consider a Go Go pretty good if I am attracted to say 15% of the girls. No, what am I saying? If a bar has 1 girl I like, I like that bar and will keep coming back, but in my book, a really good bar has to have at least 4 or 5 pretty girls each with good personalities in order to make the grade.

[PinkPearl]

I also like Thailand a lot 15 years before but now every time I go, and I keep going because of memories, I find that they put fat fucks everywhere?! Always hanging at least little from stomach or from the side most not like whale but what I used to love in Thailand was good body? Is good for fuck? Maybe is a bit about expectations concerning your questions if you put the 90% the woman from Thailand in good brothel Berlin Nevada Sydney people would be so angry they will never go back!! It was not this way 15 year ago. Is the Thai are getting less guest friendly putting all their ugly daughters for the sex work!! IS a disgrace if you ask for me? I can go to Bangkok again for suckyfuck because can browse for 3 or 5 good girls of 500 in that scene but other I only go back swim in the beach drink of the coconut. I don't ever want to go Pattaya because make me depressed with the women 95% should be in atrocity museum and few silly doll face only shake ass outside don't take it in the pussy?So in the "places to avoid" thread for Thailand maybe you should just put one word. Thailand.

When you've got KFC on every corner & HIV is now no longer plaquing LOS like 15 years ago, that means the girls are not going to be looking as deathly skinny anymore. It also means every time you had sex way back then you were flirting with the casket maker, like doing it with crack heroin injecting ladies of the street in 2014. Are you sure you want to go back to that?

As a close alternative to LOS of the 1990's but with much safer sex, I'd suggest Vietnam, a country that is about 2 decades behind Siam modernization, is not full of fast food joints, poorer than Thailand, & with hotter women.

[Syzygies]

Look, most girls in most Go Go's are not duable IMHO, although some girls may grow on you if you give them a chance because they possess warm winning personalities. It has always been that way. I went to my first BKK Go Go in 1989. I distinctly remember there were 2 stunners on the stage. I didn't give a fig about the rest of the 25 girls. I barfinned one of the 2 hot girls and she showed me a great time. So I consider a Go Go pretty good if I am attracted to say 15% of the girls. No, what am I saying? If a bar has 1 girl I like, I like that bar and will keep coming back, but in my book, a really good bar has to have at least 4 or 5 pretty girls each with good personalities in order to make the grade.I agree. You have it right. Suzi failed to have 4 or 5 at the moment, may have come close for someone not too picky. Many of the preferred girls missing. Suzi was definitely at its best quite a while back when Sheba merged with Suzi Wong. Crazy House would have them for looks, but on the bed, I don't know. Some of the best girls from there are also currently missing.

I can go to Rainbow 4 (and did not that long ago), and fail to find 4 or 5 such girls, too. Some girls have pretty faces. Some have a good hot body. Some have neither, or wrecked by a bad nose job or tit job. Very few have both the face and the body. I don't confuse youth with beauty. No girl was really grabbing my attention last time for face, body, and personality, even if the average standard of looks was okay I can see that a guy who doesn't mind nose jobs and tit jobs will like R4, Baccara, Sharks, etc. But not for me. Crazy House has relatively little in nose and tit jobs. Mostly natural slim girls. Doll House is a crap bar but does have one or two cute fuckable girls, in amongst the fugglies. Same for Long Gun, etc. There are some stunning girls coming from various bars, its just that I usually end up the naked bars.

Above all, it makes a large difference to be to be able to see a girl naked, before choosing. No nasty shocks about how the body looks, when the gear comes off. Then you get to talk to girls for significant time before choosing, not like at an Oily. This is also critical to making a good choice for personality. Can also see how she will kiss by sneaking one in the bar. Can feel up her tits too just to be sure you are satisfied. The girl can feel your dick if she wants to make sure its not too large.

If girls at Oilies all had to Parade around naked, or wear only the tightest bodysuit or bikini, I would be happy. LOL. Actually I don't like to see girls wearing a bra. Tulip leotards were good in the old days. At Soapies its very tough to choose girls that are seated, as cannot see the bodies properly. I prefer to pick girls that have just walked out, as in standing position I can assess them better.

My Thai GF has a excellent curvy body and pretty good face, and is a very nice fuck too, just that its not quite frequent enough and she is no BBBJ expert. However its of little interest to go fuck someone no where near her standard. I can put up with small tits as long as not ugly, but I never choose an ugly nose or a mediocre ass. Those two are critical, but ass can only be checked properly when girl is naked. What a hassle this is.

[Tiger 888]

So in the "places to avoid" thread for Thailand maybe you should just put one word. Thailand.

When you've got KFC on every corner & HIV is now no longer plaquing LOS like 15 years ago, that means the girls are not going to be looking as deathly skinny anymore. It also means every time you had sex way back then you were flirting with the casket maker, like doing it with crack heroin injecting ladies of the street in 2014. Are you sure you want to go back to that?

As a close alternative to LOS of the 1990's but with much safer sex, I'd suggest Vietnam, a country that is about 2 decades behind Siam modernization, is not full of fast food joints, poorer than Thailand, & with hotter women.Spot on for me too. I haven't been mongering in Thailand anymore for over 2 years (overpriced non service as a rule with exceptions).

I Just go there to see my dentist.

[Syzygies]

Spot on for me too. I haven't been mongering in Thailand anymore for over 2 years (overpriced non service as a rule with exceptions).

I Just go there to see my dentist.Not sure why you even read the Thailand threads. HE was being satirical I think. So saying HE is spot on is sort of funny. I don't know why the forum software insists that "he" must be capitalised.

[Goatscrot]

I agree. You have it right. Suzi failed to have 4 or 5 at the moment, may have come close for someone not too picky. Many of the preferred girls missing. Suzi was definitely at its best quite a while back when Sheba merged with Suzi Wong. Crazy House would have them for looks, but on the bed, I don't know. Some of the best girls from there are also currently missing.

I can go to Rainbow 4 (and did not that long ago), and fail to find 4 or 5 such girls, too. Some girls have pretty faces. Some have a good hot body. Some have neither, or wrecked by a bad nose job or tit job. Very few have both the face and the body. I don't confuse youth with beauty. No girl was really grabbing my attention last time for face, body, and personality, even if the average standard of looks was okay I can see that a guy who doesn't mind nose jobs and tit jobs will like R4, Baccara, Sharks, etc. But not for me. Crazy House has relatively little in nose and tit jobs. Mostly natural slim girls. Doll House is a crap bar but does have one or two cute fuckable girls, in amongst the fugglies. Same for Long Gun, etc. There are some stunning girls coming from various bars, its just that I usually end up the naked bars.

Above all, it makes a large difference to be to be able to see a girl naked, before choosing. No nasty shocks about how the body looks, when the gear comes off. Then you get to talk to girls for significant time before choosing, not like at an Oily. This is also critical to making a good choice for personality. Can also see how she will kiss by sneaking one in the bar. Can feel up her tits too just to be sure you are satisfied. The girl can feel your dick if she wants to make sure its not too large.

If girls at Oilies all had to Parade around naked, or wear only the tightest bodysuit or bikini, I would be happy. LOL. Actually I don't like to see girls wearing a bra. Tulip leotards were good in the old days. At Soapies its very tough to choose girls that are seated, as cannot see the bodies properly. I prefer to pick girls that have just walked out, as in standing position I can assess them better.

My Thai GF has a excellent curvy body and pretty good face, and is a very nice fuck too, just that its not quite frequent enough and she is no BBBJ expert. However its of little interest to go fuck someone no where near her standard. I can put up with small tits as long as not ugly, but I never choose an ugly nose or a mediocre ass. Those two are critical, but ass can only be checked properly when girl is naked. What a hassle this is.My issue with most gogo and most working girls these days is one thing; the majority look way too "jungle" to me. By jungle I mean that hard almost simian Isaan look. High cheekbones, dark skin, big mouth, and what appears to be 64 teeth. Under the "gogo lights" with makeup many of these flaws are covered up. But get them back under regular light and take off that makeup and whoops, different gal.

In the oilies most of the gals have a lighter skin and look well, quite a bit less simian. Also I find the oily girls to be far better in the manners department. Many gogo gals treat customers rudely and with contempt, but of course without the customers even knowing it. The gals are constantly taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of customers in gogos. It is actually funny to watch, even funnier if you understand a bit of Isaan. In oilies and soapies you are treated with a bit of respect. And yes, that does make a difference to me.
But yes, I would love to see gals with looks like you see in Macau saunas in oilies.

[Abagneil]

Reading past posts from Thailand my expectations are downgrading.

I'd choose Thailand (from what I have heard) only to have girls who are skinny / slim / petite. You name it. But if, as I read 95%, of those are fat and ugly then I guess I would not try Thailand, not even for this first time I was going, but will go back to Cambodia again.

Cheers

[Member #4591]

For some of the guys using we chat listen to this story and then beware. Was in the mood for some strange and started playing we chat. No time to chat it up so there are always a few ladies who are very blunt about what they want. For example business only or even saying call girl or escort. One of the girls who was advertising escort replied to me right away. We negotiated our deal and time for the next evening. The next night I was late getting home because of traffic so I suggested we postpone until the next night. She got very pushy all of a sudden about the name of my condo or hotel. It got so annoying to the point I just gave her a fake name of of my condo. I then said we will meet tomorrow. What does this crazy girl do? She tells me she is on her way and will wait in the lobby. I tell her I will be very late and not to go. I then continue driving and ignore my phone. I arrive to my condo about 1130 and check my phone. This crazy girl has gone to the lobby of the fake condo name I have her. She tells me she thinks I am there. She says let her in. She says she has showed my photo to security and he says I am home LOL. I say you are crazy. Then she shows me a photo of a policemen in the same building and threatens me with him. Policemen even sends voice message on we chat to me. Anyways it is clearly a scam where this fake or real cop will try to extort money from you so beware. She was so stupid to send me her photos and the cops so I have my ass covered. But I am sure many others fell for her game and paid big at their condo.

[Member #4591]

Love this place! I have been 2 times and always picked a pure porn star for LT. LT is 4000 but you can get them down to 3000 if it is near closing. Number 36, and 83 are stunners with huge tits! These girls are easy going and don't push for condoms if that's your thing.

Enjoy!

[Hermescali]

My issue with most gogo and most working girls these days is one thing; the majority look way too "jungle" to me. By jungle I mean that hard almost simian Isaan look. High cheekbones, dark skin, big mouth, .You are just describing looks I like. I haven't been in Thailand for 6 years, but will return next week. Mostly travelling with family, but caqn travel up to 5 days alone. Am really courious if the scene has really deterioted. I first visited Thailand in 91 and can't say that 2008 was worse. Even then everybody was talking about the good old times. I will give you my comments on 2014.

[Steve7777]

Love this place! I have been 2 times and always picked a pure porn star for LT. LT is 4000 but you can get them down to 3000 if it is near closing. Number 36, and 83 are stunners with huge tits! These girls are easy going and don't push for condoms if that's your thing.

Enjoy!Very low price for long time. But the risk is higher also. Buyer beware of girls who don't insist on condoms.

I'd pass if it were free.

[PinkPearl]

Reading past posts from Thailand my expectations are downgrading.

I'd choose Thailand (from what I have heard) only to have girls who are skinny / slim / petite. You name it. But if, as I read 95%, of those are fat and ugly then I guess I would not try Thailand, not even for this first time I was going, but will go back to Cambodia again.Camdodia might be a better bet for skinny. Higher HIV rates, poorer, so less well fed & more malnourished, all helps in that regard.

OTOH I'm guessing they're a bit more infiltrated by fast food businesses than Vietnam.

Nevertheless I found my dream slim petite girl at the NPL a couple times recently. Never found one that hot before in 7 years.

It always surprises me at the 20 ish stunners who are there waiting, waiting, waiting, with no one scooping them up immediately. I'm sure a lot of guys are afraid to take them, concerned they are too young, even though they have identification. Many others guys are intimidated by girls that hot due to the relative comparison with their own looks or age. Or they think they won't get the service they want. Or they prefer a curvy lass with some ass tits & cushion for the pushing.

Or they think street girls are more dangerous for theft or STI. Interestingly the latest UNAIDS report showed non venue HIV rates were lower (at about 1.3 percent) in a couple areas of Thailand than those of venues (for example MP's gogos bars). A lot of freelancing girls just work part time, such as a couple I met recently near NEP, & have regular jobs or are students, so they're safer than your average FT working girl. The time of the month when rents become due is prime for picking up such.

[Goatscrot]

Camdodia might be a better bet for skinny. Higher HIV rates, poorer, so less well fed & more malnourished, all helps in that regard.

OTOH I'm guessing they're a bit more infiltrated by fast food businesses than Vietnam.

Nevertheless I found my dream slim petite girl at the NPL a couple times recently. Never found one that hot before in 7 years.

It always surprises me at the 20 ish stunners who are there waiting, waiting, waiting, with no one scooping them up immediately. I'm sure a lot of guys are afraid to take them, concerned they are too young, even though they have identification. Many others guys are intimidated by girls that hot due to the relative comparison with their own looks or age. Or they think they won't get the service they want. Or they prefer a curvy lass with some ass tits & cushion for the pushing.

Or they think street girls are more dangerous for theft or STI. Interestingly the latest UNAIDS report showed non venue HIV rates were lower (at about 1.3 percent) in a couple areas of Thailand than those of venues (for example MP's gogos bars). A lot of freelancing girls just work part time, such as a couple I met recently near NEP, & have regular jobs or are students, so they're safer than your average FT working girl. The time of the month when rents become due is prime for picking up such.Personally I have found the performance of NPL gals to be lacking in the last few years. Have had to call off several sessions. Eventually I just gave up on it. And yes, I do prefer some curves and also want a very experienced gal.

[Member #4591]

Very low price for long time. But the risk is higher also. Buyer beware of girls who don't insist on condoms.

I'd pass if it were free.May I inquire about what the price of LT should be Steve? If 3000 and 4000 is too low then what do you consider the going rate? 6000 THB?

[Mogwai]

But if, as I read 95%, of those are fat and ugly then I guess I would not try Thailand, not even for this first time I was going, but will go back to Cambodia again.
Cheers95% is highly exaggerated. There are still lots of nice looking slim girls to be found in Thailand. It will only take a bit more time and effort to find them compared to say 5 or 10 years ago.

[Syzygies]

Love this place! I have been 2 times and always picked a pure porn star for LT. LT is 4000 but you can get them down to 3000 if it is near closing. Number 36, and 83 are stunners with huge tits! These girls are easy going and don't push for condoms if that's your thing.

Enjoy!I have to be very sceptical about porn star for LT for 3000 Baht in Crazy House. Sounds like you exaggerate. 2000 was lowest I have heard of for ST. A girl would need to be desperate to do LT for 3K. 4K maybe. Many girls are asking for 5K. Don't know if they manage to get it often or not. I have had girls that did not quote a price, even for long time, if there was a really excellent chemistry. In my experience, its very hard to find a porn star type for service in Crazy House. You may have got lucky. There are a limited number of girls with big tits. I am not good at recalling numbers.

Recently saw a new pretty girl leaving on her 2nd ST of the night and was only 10PM. I am sure there is no way she is going to do a LT unless the money is high. O.K. I admit that this is not a typical case. Always some girls are struggling to get enough customers, especially if they get reputation as a star fish.

[Syzygies]

But if, as I read 95%, of those are fat and ugly then I guess I would not try Thailand, not even for this first time I was going, but will go back to Cambodia again.

CheersYou interpret wrongly. Only 5% of girls are interesting for a picky type of person. Does not mean that the remainder are fat and ugly. There are lots of reasons to reject a girl. Tastes vary. From photos of girls that other guys showed me, I still think the standard of looks in BKK is better than Phnom Penh, to my taste. I do know one stunning Cambodian girl here in Bangkok.

[Syzygies]

You are just describing looks I like. I haven't been in Thailand for 6 years, but will return next week. Mostly travelling with family, but caqn travel up to 5 days alone. Am really courious if the scene has really deterioted. I first visited Thailand in 91 and can't say that 2008 was worse. Even then everybody was talking about the good old times. I will give you my comments on 2014.The good old times is somewhat mythical, maybe partially true. Certainly in the old days, what seemed like every little money to us, was huge money for girls. One of my early cowboy girls went for 400 baht for LT. She was not stunning by any means. However liked fucking and was very hard to get rid of her. Did not want to leave at all. She probably had never been treated well in her life before by a guy, but very immature. I got bored with her quickly.

My estimation, is that the looks have not changed that much, perhaps more chubby girls at a very young age who have bad diet, and less really stunning figures. One has to understand that guys try to steal away girls that are really super looking, so usually they don't last. Young girls eat more junk than in the old days. Girls are not so innocent as 20 years ago, starting fucking at a younger age, less easy to manipulate or impress. Still some very naïve young girls arriving in the bars, especially those who cannot speak English. More pretty girls drifting into stupid Coyote roles caused by "the Arab" in Soi Cowboy as its more glamorous and more socially acceptable. Some think they are so sexy that they don't need to fuck, but most of these Coyote bars don't seem to be making money. Cowboy 2 may be an exception as Coyote girls are barfineable at a steep price.

I think the looks of girls in the Oilies and Soapies has declined a little more than the looks of bar girls. Working an Oily is much harder work than being a bargirl, especially if the girl has top looks. Why not work a bar and get to choose your customers, who won't fuck you too viciously. Get customers who will take you out to dinner, the movies, or a music nightclub.

Recently went to Dr be. J. And girl warned me that only BJ would be available after a sore pussy from some guy with a huge rock hard dick who wanted to fuck significant time hard and with no gel too. Not being a guy who is satisfied with just BJ, that often, I had to take the poor girls' ass instead, which is not normal for me. She was relieved to be able rest her poor pussy. I do understand why girls work as BJ specialists to reduce wear and tear on the pussy. Its less of a problem for bar girls as they fuck much less than Oily girls, speaking of the top popular girls.

I never can understand how an Oily girl can manage 8 customers in a day, but has been heard of. A top bargirl can make 10 K in a single good day but with far less customers.

[Francesco24]

Hello,

I haven't been to a Go Go bar in many years.

Maybe this coming week I will have a chance to visit Soi Cowboy early evening.

Could someone update me on ST and barfine prices?

Reading here seems many Coyote places popped up. I would like to avoid them. Any suggested bar to visit? I will have a look at Suzie Wong but would like to have a second option too. (the few bars I used to know years ago seems to have become Coyote style).

Thanks!

[Steve7777]

May I inquire about what the price of LT should be Steve? If 3000 and 4000 is too low then what do you consider the going rate? 6000 THB?Anyone notice Rainbow 2 is getting a lot more non-asian customers. Seems the bearded Iraqis are having a ball with the are. 2 girls-ok maybe not so much but the clientele is shifting.

3000 is fine for long time-esp. When you factor in the quality. The hot ones want no part of long time. If you want a good looking hot porn star for long time certainly at least 4,500 will do, possibly more.

P.S. I really wonder how many girls are enjoying our company -sexually speaking. I think many of you are just self promoting yourselves. Is sex with customers that satisfying for a prostitute? ONLY a customer would claim prostitutes are having multiple orgams due to their prowess.

[W20415]

Please forgive me I ve been reading for a couple of hours and looking for info on BK street scene. I see occasional reference but no real specific info on SW. I don't drink a lot and from what I read the bar scene has declined considerably. Ugly women and high prices. I prefer street girls. First trip to Thailand after many times in PI. The post I m reading don't sound encouraging. Should I avoid Thailand all together?

[Beach1708]

What is the difference between a coyote bar and a Go Go bar?

[Member #4591]

Just a heads up guys. Many spinners will head into the Beer Garden on Soi 7 as part timers 2 or 3 times a month when they need money. So yes some diamonds in the ruff can be found. I was able to pull a wonderful girl from here with no inhibitions. So persistence pays off.

[Syzygies]

Hello,

I haven't been to a Go Go bar in many years.

Maybe this coming week I will have a chance to visit Soi Cowboy early evening.

Could someone update me on ST and barfine prices?

Reading here seems many Coyote places popped up. I would like to avoid them. Any suggested bar to visit? I will have a look at Suzie Wong but would like to have a second option too. (the few bars I used to know years ago seems to have become Coyote style).

Thanks!In Cowboy, I suggest trying Crazy House (its around the corner in Soi 23), Suzi Wong at 10 PM for lesbian show, Bacarra, Shark, and Tilac. This will give you a good range so you can decide what you like. At the other end Five star and Country Road maybe worth a look for a completely different style. I personally don't like the style of girls in Bacarra and Shark, but others do, especially Japanese, who sometimes like a very artificial doll like look.

In Nana Plaza, can try Hot Lips, Angel Witch, Spankies and Rainbow 4. Watch out, there are several lady boy bars best avoided.

[Francesco24]

In Cowboy, I suggest trying Crazy House (its around the corner in Soi 23), Suzi Wong at 10 PM for lesbian show, Bacarra, Shark, and Tilac. This will give you a good range so you can decide what you like. At the other end Five star and Country Road maybe worth a look for a completely different style. I personally don't like the style of girls in Bacarra and Shark, but others do, especially Japanese, who sometimes like a very artificial doll like look.

In Nana Plaza, can try Hot Lips, Angel Witch, Spankies and Rainbow 4. Watch out, there are several lady boy bars best avoided.Thanks a lot for the suggestions!

Could I also ask you about what is the going price for ST and barfine?

[Syzygies]

due to recent crackdown in cowboy, causing considerably reduced duration of full nudity, i decided to have a look at nana.

i am aware that spankies has some complete nudity but i don't really like the spanking, so decided to look some others. arrived at rainbow shortly after 8pm. stayed about half an hour. the girls were not very pretty. no. 4 looked o.k. but legs a bit big for me. i like slim thighs with gap. a couple of girls looked o.k. except for really horrible looking silicones. there were quite a few silly hair styles like japanese like. i soon realised that the cute one in the place was the waitress no. 223. i was about to call her over when some white haired farang walked in and called her over immediately plus one of the dancing girls that i did not fancy. at last a reasonably good looking dancer got up on stage but i recognised her. she was lai, previously worked at suzi wong. although fairly pretty no one at sw liked her as she was an actress, a bullshit artist, and exaggerated everything like a ladyboy would. i actually barfined her once in the past and quickly regretted it, due to the fake character acting. i decided to move on.

next went to check on rainbow 4. the standard of the figures in there is pretty good, a lot better than suzi wong, as there are no fat tummies, however there are thick thighs (a lot) and silicones are not uncommon. there are also fairly prevalent nose jobs. the faces mostly range from ugly to plain to very ordinary, to my taste. its partly due to the silly hairdos (similar to bacarra). a small number of o.k. faces including a girl i previously bfed who was crap on the bed.

no. 15 had slim thighs and a spectacular ass. she had chin length hair curving inward, that framed the face, and with a fringe could not see more than about 50% of the face peeking out. this made it quite hard to decide if she was pretty or not. i don't like that all the girls are wearing bras. i guess no. 15 had sillies but could not be 100% sure with a bra on. 108 looked reasonable, however i was not sold, especially with bra on. with two stages its very hard to see all the girls properly. i might have called no. 15 over for a drink to see if there was any chemistry but a japanese regular called to her faster. decided to move on.

next hot lips. i was immediately much more impressed here, despite the smaller line up. several girls looked doable. girls are more natural looking and i don't remember seeing any sillies at all, perhaps one girl. it helped that 50% were topless. some very nice tits on show. i called over noi, a girl i have known for maybe 3 years who used to work at doll house. she is slim toned, cute nose, small tits, but spectacular tight ass. no. 19 also had a great body and reasonable face, with only drawback being nose a little too big. there are some other cutish possibilities. i moved seats as the japanese guy i was sitting next to was making no effort at all to allow enough space for me and noi, despite plenty of spare on his other side. he had a very blank face and did not call any girl over. noi said this is typical japanese rudeness, but i would not know. i do have japanese friends that are not like that.

around 9pm or so, a girl walks into the bar (obviously very late). although she is fully clothed, i like her face immensely in the first second i see her. black hair, cute nose, teeth braces causing lips to pout a little, north eastern thai look. later call her over for a drink after she has danced a little. even though not topless it is evident she has very nice tits. maybe a b cup. only weak point is thighs are not that broad, causing waist to thigh ratio to be not as good as noi, and ass not as good as noi. however tits are definitely better than noi. both have cute little slightly upturned noses, not at all broad. her name is mint. seems a bit shy. this is soon cured somewhat with a couple of tequilas. she likes to drink and get slightly tipsy it seems. been in the bar just 2 months. apparently worked in some beer bar in soi 22 previously where an american took her out of the bar after only 2 to 3 weeks, but they later separated. she looks pretty hot to me. comes from mahaasarakham (the expected type of region). i can understand some guy pulling her away from the bar very quickly. in the end girls agree to me barfining them both for a threesome. this is strange as noi has never done a threesome with me before. she did not really know mint but has taken a fairly instant liking to her character.

we find this really nice looking short time hotel further up soi 4 in a little side soi past the 7 eleven, but on same side as np. the charge for room for 2 hours 2 girls is 500. this is much better than taking a st room in the np, where room is lower standard cramped, and lucky if you get 1 hour. noi has warned me that its the end of her period and there could be a tiny amount of blood. i warn her not to stuff a "luuk gai" (literally "chicken" but actually a sponge) up her pussy as she is naturally very tight and i don't want any obstacles to make it even more difficult to get in properly. actually she arned me "end of period", before bfing her.

everyone gets naked and showered and we get on the bed. mint is dfk kissing me extremely nicely, despite her braces, while noi blows me. neither girl smokes hooray! not having done mint before, i decide to do her first in case of any difficulties. a bout of daty first. i need not have worried. her pussy is an extremely good fit for me, she raises legs back in a very relaxed way, making the fucking very easy. she is into it too. you can feel the way she moves is getting some action on her clit. her soft moaning does not seem fake. noi is massaging my balls gently from behind while a fuck mint and i also use one hand to play with noi's pussy a little. i also keep kissing mint. she is just so lovely and doing everything to perfection. greatly enjoy mint in doggy position as well. i am sure i could have come but have not done noi yet.

noi has the tighter pussy of the two so i really should have done noi first. change condoms. have to penetrate noi gradually till her pussy expands. she has a squeezing pussy too which feels great. change to doggy with her also and finally blow my load. was a really great time i had and mint performed well beyond my expectations. would not have needed noi as backup. can't wait to do this tag team again, or when not possible, either one of the two will be fine. noi is older but mint is only 20. there was no lesbian action but i know these girls are not bi-sexuals, so no problem.

mint is really the prettier of the two. if i was a young man, i would really like to steal her away from the bar too. o.k. i don't really know her full character just yet, but she was a lot of fun, starting off just a little shy but not too much.

if you like more natural looking girls, and some very nice natural tits on display, i recommend hot lips bar. in the happy hour, i guess up to 9pm, you get two drinks for the price of one. one of the more crazy girls in the bar previously worked crazy house apparently, but not really my type. i will clearly return to hot lips before any other bar in nana plaza. its a very different style to rb4, and feels infinitely more friendly and fun for me. the music is pretty good for me too. i can't see myself going past noi and mint though. they were just too good for me in a gfe way (not pse).

i spent more money than visiting an oily, however its a long while since i found any girl as stunning as mint in an oily. it makes a significant difference to my enjoyment. i don't get the same thrill from fucking a plain looking porn star. mint is very good competition for the one stunning girl at suzi wong. she has better tits and is a more convincing gfe with better kissing than the sw stunner.

[Wolvenvacht]

P.S. I really wonder how many girls are enjoying our company -sexually speaking. I think many of you are just self promoting yourselves. Is sex with customers that satisfying for a prostitute? ONLY a customer would claim prostitutes are having multiple orgams due to their prowess.I am quite sure the girls don't get multiple earth shattering orgasms with every client. But on the other hand, there is no reason why they should not enjoy what they do, and sometimes they even willingly avoid to have an orgasm as it seems to drain their energy. This is the perfect proof that from time to time they do orgasm if they want to. Avoiding an orgasm seems to happen more with massage girls as they work a lot harder than your average bargirl or agogo-girl and they cannot wear themselves out too early in the day.

As with most other women, simple straight-up-and-down fucking does not give them an orgasm easily. They will need some clitoral or G-spot stimulation for that, but many of them are good actresses and as by magic reach their orgasm simultaneously with you. That is likely to be fake.

Personally I think that the majority of the bar or agogogirls I engaged for LT enjoyed the sex and many did reach orgasm, some already during foreplay when licking or fingering their pussy. Did they cum again when I fucked them? Probably only a very few did. But honestly I can say they generally enjoyed our romp. It is a job for them, but in Thailand even your work must be "sanuk"!

[ActionOriented]

Next Hot Lips.


If you like more natural looking girls, and some very nice natural tits on display, I recommend Hot Lips bar. Isn't Hot Lips the same a Go Go which got re-branded recently, it was known as something else earlier (and then something else before that). I happened to venture in on my last trip and this was the only a Go Go other than Spanky's which appeared to be open in NEP at the time and served alcohol post 12 am. Had couple of cute girls although it was a holiday (no alcohol day) and a severely depleted line up. Should have bar fined the girl I was sitting with.

Nice report regarding the girls at this place. Looks like you may have finally found an alternative to CH, or may be not?

[Global Surfer]

Please forgive me I ve been reading for a couple of hours and looking for info on BK street scene. I see occasional reference but no real specific info on SW. I don't drink a lot and from what I read the bar scene has declined considerably. Ugly women and high prices. I prefer street girls. First trip to Thailand after many times in PI. The post I m reading don't sound encouraging. Should I avoid Thailand all together?Try Soi 4, Soi 3, Nana Plaza Hotel Parking lot.

Pavement between Soi 3 and Soi 5.

In and out side Grace Hotel.

In Aran Restaurants between Soi 3 and Soi 5 you can find CIS primarily Uzbek, Columbian, Syrian etc.

[PinkPearl]

Please forgive me I ve been reading for a couple of hours and looking for info on BK street scene. I see occasional reference but no real specific info on SW. I don't drink a lot and from what I read the bar scene has declined considerably. Ugly women and high prices. I prefer street girls. First trip to Thailand after many times in PI. The post I m reading don't sound encouraging. Should I avoid Thailand all together?Specifically what specific info are you looking for? List your questions or particular interest areas.

If you can find the videos that I've posted from youtube or search Nana Hotel Parking Lot at the same site you may get an idea of what BKK street girls look like & whether or not you should "avoid Thailand all together".

[ZuperFly]

Tried her today. She looks a Bengali with large eyes, cute looking school girl kind of face, very thin (not for people looking for big / medium size jugs). People from India will understand what girls from Bengal look like.

She is 2 weeks into the system. Apparently I was the first one in her ass and what a experience it was. She was almost crying but did not say anything to stop me. It took several attempts before making my way into her ass. But once I was inside, I was in no mood to come out. Spent 90 min for standard massage rate. Overall a great experience. With hits in a row, my regard for snow white has gone up.Bonus has been working at Snow White for years.

[Syzygies]

Nice report regarding the girls at this place. Looks like you may have finally found an alternative to CH, or may be not?Crazy House still has its place, to watch girls dance naked, when Police situation allows. Usually not the best place to BF a girl though with the odd exception.

Hot Lips girls are only topless (some of them), G-strings don't hide the ass much so okay To enjoy the aesthetics of a girl's body even if not totally naked, however to get a pretty girl to fuck, yes Hot Lips becomes a "go to" bar. I don't see myself changing girls much there as already happy with the choice made. Better looking girls than Suzi Wong. I believe that Hot Lips was re-branded and may have changed concept and girls about 5 to 6 months ago. So if you went there a long time ago, its probably quite different now. Its near to RB4 but one LB bar in between I think.

I will obviously go in Suzi Wong much less. For a threesome including lesbian action, Suzi Wong will still be useful occasionally when some better girls return. Suzi Wong does have too many over weight girls, as I like them quite slim / skinny.

I could go to Rainbow just to check out the cute waitress again. RB4 just doesn't do it for me. I have been there several times over years, and never been that impressed by the weird looks. A plain face (typical) or fake face on a great body doesn't work for me. Face comes first for me, every time. Maybe the odd girl has looked a little interesting, but being over-dressed tends to kill my interest unless the face is stunning. This visit, no girl made it to the natural stunning category. I can see it's for guys (mostly Japanese) with a totally different girl spec.

[Syzygies]

I am quite sure the girls don't get multiple earth shattering orgasms with every client. But on the other hand, there is no reason why they should not enjoy what they do, and sometimes they even willingly avoid to have an orgasm as it seems to drain their energy. This is the perfect proof that from time to time they do orgasm if they want to. Avoiding an orgasm seems to happen more with massage girls as they work a lot harder than your average bargirl or agogo-girl and they cannot wear themselves out too early in the day.
Spot on. I pleased you are not so naïve as to believe a working girl never enjoyed herself, as well as taking the money. In my experience Thai girls are willing to have fun themselves more so than western hookers, especially the Thai girls who don't fuck that often. After a period of time away up country, they can return in a very horny mood. Its also quite difficult for them to resist being stimulated by a good DATY for example, and so some of them pull out of it to conserve energy as you say. Its a little similar to asking "Can a guy resist being stimulated by a really excellent BBBJ?" With a fair degree of difficulty.

There is a strong rumour that one girl in Snow White is very multi-orgasmic, getting many orgasms per day, and squirts as well leaving the bed rather wet. The rumour came from a reliable other working girl who used to work at SW. I did not get the name of the SW girl, but I am sure someone here will know who it is. Maybe I can ask the name next time. Someday I will try a squirter just for the experience, even though it doesn't massively appeal to me. Just curious.

[Syzygies]

Thanks a lot for the suggestions!

Could I also ask you about what is the going price for ST and barfine?BF is usually 600 Baht and 700 Baht in some places. I don't like to discuss ST prices much as it starts price squabbles on the forum. I don't believe that better quality girls in bars do ST for 1500 any more. Perhaps the ugly ones do. I never take really low quality girls. Will probably need to be 2000, and some extra hot girls may require 2500. I don't really know precisely. If you are a newbie, girls may try very hard for more. There are plenty of times girls can get more than that especially from customers who know little or maybe very generous ones. We hear that Japanese pay very well. I haven't asked what they typically pay. It also depends for regular customers on how difficult the customer is.

If you are difficult and don't pay well enough, the girl will choose a different customer next time. I say this, because the very top girls can be choosy. They get so many offers. If you are a guy that pops after just a few minutes and use low total time, the girl may be happy with a lower amount.

I am sure the best Suzi Wong girl has different prices. One price for a quickie upstairs, a different one for a longer ST outside, a different one for a multi-day customer, etc. If the guy is hard pounder, she will just refuse him altogether. She doesn't need the damage. She tells me she hardly ever takes a new customer any more, she has so many regulars. I don't know if this is really true. Quiet business days do happen.

If you want the cheapest girls, you are better off in an Oily like Snow White, Cherry, Bamboo, Mango, etc. Bars are for choosing pretty faced girls with great bodies, beautiful asses, at a slightly higher price, in my opinion. When you choose in an Oily, you see the mostly plain faces, can't see the asses and inner thigh gap properly and only get some idea about the tits. The tits get much smaller once the push-up bra comes off.

[Mogwai]

Try Soi 4, Soi 3, Nana Plaza Hotel Parking lot.

Pavement between Soi 3 and Soi 5.

In and out side Grace Hotel.

In Aran Restaurants between Soi 3 and Soi 5 you can find CIS primarily Uzbek, Columbian, Syrian etc.Also further down Sukhumvit Road, roughly between Soi 13 and 19 and towards the Asok intersection. But only a dozen or so.
And occasionally also on the other side of Sukhumvit Road, the 'quiet' side, between Nana and Asok.

But most street walkers are to be found in Soi 4 near the Nana Hotel but usually only late in the evening / night. But again, don't expect hundreds of them and the 'quality' is mostly mediocre.
Also quite a lot of lady boys there, especially near the Dynasty Inn Hotel.

Pattaya is a much better and cheaper place for street walkers. Hundreds of them on Beach Road starting from +/- 7 PM.

[Mogwai]

What is the difference between a coyote bar and a Go Go bar?Coyote girls are sexy but nevertheless fully dressed and will never go naked or show any more skin.
Go Go girls are hardly dressed and will often go half or fully naked.

In some bars you cannot bar fine Coyote girls or only for a steep price. They will only sit and chat with you and ask for expensive lady drinks.
Go Go girls are always bar finable (unless they are 'on mens' or similar excuses).

[Goatscrot]

If you want the cheapest girls, you are better off in an Oily like Snow White, Cherry, Bamboo, Mango, etc. Bars are for choosing pretty faced girls with great bodies, beautiful asses, at a slightly higher price, in my opinion. When you choose in an Oily, you see the mostly plain faces, can't see the asses and inner thigh gap properly and only get some idea about the tits. The tits get much smaller once the push-up bra comes off.Oily prices have not changed since their inception. Twas the same cost at Barons 10 years ago as it is now. Back then I thought they were expensive, and they were. At that time GoGo gals were 1 k ST with a 400 or 500 baht BF (less that 40 USD total at the time). Now GoGo gals are approaching the ridiculous. Over 100 USD ST for gal and BF. Nuts. Oilies are now the bargain.
To compare, back in '95 a ST in a TX-MEX border town was 40 USD on average. Now it is 50 USD.
Oily gals tend to have lighter skin, tend to be less "simian" facially, and IMHO are far more mannered and polite. Aside from the PSE shops, you will find gals that are IMHO better looking than the gals in the GoGos. Again, not in the PSE shops, but in some of the other shops along 24/1.

[Francesco24]

BF is usually 600 Baht and 700 Baht in some places. I don't like to discuss ST prices much as it starts price squabbles on the forum. I don't believe that better quality girls in bars do ST for 1500 any more. Perhaps the ugly ones do. I never take really low quality girls. Will probably need to be 2000, and some extra hot girls may require 2500. I don't really know precisely. If you are a newbie, girls may try very hard for more. There are plenty of times girls can get more than that especially from customers who know little or maybe very generous ones. We hear that Japanese pay very well. I haven't asked what they typically pay. It also depends for regular customers on how difficult the customer is.

If you are difficult and don't pay well enough, the girl will choose a different customer next time. I say this, because the very top girls can be choosy. They get so many offers. If you are a guy that pops after just a few minutes and use low total time, the girl may be happy with a lower amount.

I am sure the best Suzi Wong girl has different prices. One price for a quickie upstairs, a different one for a longer ST outside, a different one for a multi-day customer, etc. If the guy is hard pounder, she will just refuse him altogether. She doesn't need the damage. She tells me she hardly ever takes a new customer any more, she has so many regulars. I don't know if this is really true. Quiet business days do happen.

If you want the cheapest girls, you are better off in an Oily like Snow White, Cherry, Bamboo, Mango, etc. Bars are for choosing pretty faced girls with great bodies, beautiful asses, at a slightly higher price, in my opinion. When you choose in an Oily, you see the mostly plain faces, can't see the asses and inner thigh gap properly and only get some idea about the tits. The tits get much smaller once the push-up bra comes off.Thanks again for the detailed explanation.

Honestly my budget is quite limited and I mostly spend it in the PSE Oily shops (and mostly just the famous girls, like Ice I just briefly reviewed in the Tulip thread today) or just freelancers at slightly cheaper prices.

Anyway the GoGo would be a one time thing as usually I can't go out at night so if I find a nice girl I can pay a bit more once. Just wanted to have an idea of what to expect (to not feel scammed mostly.

By the way, when is the earliest time to go to a GoGo like Suzie Wong? If I arrive there at 19:30 there are girls already on stage / available?

[Steve7777]

Funny, as I went into Hot Lips for the first time. Don't waste your money. The best they got is below avg. Maybe as a group 3. 5. Currently they are giving 2 for 1 drink special so if that's what you after-go for it.

[Syzygies]

Aside from the PSE shops, you will find gals that are IMHO better looking than the gals in the GoGos. Again, not in the PSE shops, but in some of the other shops along 24/1.I do check 24/1 regularly. I did not find any stunner recently. Last ones were Angie at Cherry and Bai Fern at Yoremichi. That is some time ago. So I don't agree. Stunners can be found in bars. Both face and body. Its not easy but possible. I suppose if I looked in many Oilies including for Japan customers only I might find something, but its not easy to devote time to survey all the Oilies.

Looks in Soapies have become more plastic in the modern times with too many nose jobs and tit jobs.

I don't consider the average looking types at either place, since they become somewhat invisible to me. I only focus on the best. I don't believe the lighter skin theory either.

PSE shops are dominated by Nakorn Phanom and nearby girls. Bar girls come from many locations. Oily girls probably similar. Obviously Buri Ram girls can be dark but not always.

Chiang Rai girls are more commonly in Soapies and probably are considered the best looking on average.

I think Khon Kaen and Udon girls are in bars more than in Oilies. They can be tall and pretty sometimes.

I think girls with really bad bodies will work in Oilies more than as go go as body will look terrible with clothes off. Ugly faces can be found anywhere. Last time at Tulip, T1234 and I were rather stunned by how horrible the line up was. We were really shocked. We may have picked an unlucky time. Never seen that bad in a bar recently. Really we would need to receive a lot of money to consider doing them. The decline is severe indeed since the days of Dao, Nestle, Yok, etc. or seemed so at the time.

[PinkPearl]

Personally I have found the performance of NPL gals to be lacking in the last few years. Have had to call off several sessions. Eventually I just gave up on it. And yes, I do prefer some curves and also want a very experienced gal.Over the past 7 years I've occasionally kicked a street girl out when she was not providing what was agreed upon beforehand or expected minimum service or demanded payment upfront. Not on the present trip, though, with about 10 different NEP area street girls in the past month.

As these gals are generally not under a bar mamasan or pimp, but free & independent, & not in an MP where certain services like ass licking are required, ladies of the street have more liberty as to what they'll do with customers. So unless you have a regular girl who performs consistently every time you see her, a random street girl can offer everything from little or no service during a session to a PSE to sucking you nonstop for hours.

[Wolvenvacht]

By the way, when is the earliest time to go to a GoGo like Suzie Wong? If I arrive there at 19:30 there are girls already on stage / available?The girls in the Soi Cowboy agogo clubs start to arrive between 7 PM and 8 PM. At 7:30 PM it will not be crowded yet, but they may have a few girls on stage already and as soon as they are on stage they will be available. A number of girls, still wearing their street clothes will be in front of the building eating their evening fare. I don't think those will be available yet. Believe me, you don't want to separate a Thai girl from her food.

[JokerInter]

My fellow mongers,

Before writing this post I tried to figure out from the account settings how long I have been a member. I was not able to. Point being, I don't post often as I should.

Something happened tonight that I feel I should share so that all reading can beware. I have visited BKK six times in the last 10 months and will continue, due to my job. I love Thailand and the people, especially the women. My first visit today was Shark" at Soi Cowboy and had a blast. I met two beautiful gals (#57 and 118) that I will see later tonight or this week. "Shark "has some of the best looking gals I have seen so far. I paid a visit to Teen VIP massage yesterday on Sukhumvit 33 yesterday and did the deed with "Donna" whom I recommend both on looks and personality and performance. I also visited DR. BJ an choose "P" who performed well and was cute.

I have been a member of this site and WSG probably since 2006/2007. I travel to world due to my job in the transportation industry. I seldom post, but after today I will be more active.

After visiting Soi cowboy, I jump on the BTS and visited Nana plaza. I browsed around and went in a bought drink in two places on the second floor, I don't remember the names. I then proceeded to the first floor to Raibow 2. I was about to go in when the little Thai guy said it was members only. I ask how much the fee was, as I would have had no problem paying. He seemed edgy that I was questioning him. Then he proceeded to say in broken English that I should leave if I don't want any problems. I said "problems from who- you" and I turn and walked away. I then felt a blow to the back of my head while my back was turn. I then turn around quickly and confronted him asking why would you hit me while my back was turn? Then his friend showed up with a 1 x 2 stick that I grabbed and broke in half. I was not pissed, I was just annoyed. I ask him to try again while I was facing him then he ran inside the curtains. The guy whose stick I broke stood there with arms folded with another guy who should up. I asked if he wanted it back and I threw it at him towards his ankles. He ran inside also. The girls around who saw the ordeal had a look of shock on their face. Like that has never happened before. I am an American, but not white nor black. I mix well with all types except Asian. You can't tell with me.

I am more disappointed that pissed off of what happened because I love Thai. I don't want this experience to remain in my head so that's why I'm writing about it and I don't want fellow mongers to go thru this especially if you're easily intimidated or alone one day. Now I am an American, EX military, 6'1" 255 lbs. I can handle myself with tiny Thai dudes. So my advice, spend your money elsewhere, there are plenty of places in Bangkok. Stay away from Rainbow 2 at NANA Plaza.

Has anyone had this issue before??

[Goatscrot]

Over the past 7 years I've occasionally kicked a street girl out when she was not providing what was agreed upon beforehand or expected minimum service or demanded payment upfront. Not on the present trip, though, with about 10 different NEP area street girls in the past month.

As these gals are generally not under a bar mamasan or pimp, but free & independent, & not in an MP where certain services like ass licking are required, ladies of the street have more liberty as to what they'll do with customers. So unless you have a regular girl who performs consistently every time you see her, a random street girl can offer everything from little or no service during a session to a PSE to sucking you nonstop for hours.Pink, for my first seven or so years here I took FLs about 75% of the time. Have had hundreds of them. And I would say, "back in the day" 95% of my experiences were quite good. However, the past few years I have not been so fortunate. And I really don't have the patience these days to put up with even a 50% batting average. That is why unless I know the girl or have heard several good reports from friends who have similar tastes as me, I just don't go with FLs.

[Goatscrot]

i do check 24/1 regularly. i did not find any stunner recently. last ones were angie at cherry and bai fern at yoremichi. that is some time ago. so i don't agree. stunners can be found in bars. both face and body. its not easy but possible. i suppose if i looked in many oilies including for japan customers only i might find something, but its not easy to devote time to survey all the oilies.

looks in soapies have become more plastic in the modern times with too many nose jobs and tit jobs.

i don't consider the average looking types at either place, since they become somewhat invisible to me. i only focus on the best. i don't believe the lighter skin theory either.

pse shops are dominated by nakorn phanom and nearby girls. bar girls come from many locations. oily girls probably similar. obviously buri ram girls can be dark but not always.

chiang rai girls are more commonly in soapies and probably are considered the best looking on average.

i think khon kaen and udon girls are in bars more than in oilies. they can be tall and pretty sometimes.

i think girls with really bad bodies will work in oilies more than as go go as body will look terrible with clothes off. ugly faces can be found anywhere. last time at tulip, t1234 and i were rather stunned by how horrible the line up was. we were really shocked. we may have picked an unlucky time. never seen that bad in a bar recently. really we would need to receive a lot of money to consider doing them. the decline is severe indeed since the days of dao, nestle, yok, etc. or seemed so at the time.yep, nakhom p gals dominate the pse shops. all stem from the original baron's girls. nakhon p girls tend to be a bit lighter skinned and and bit bigger bodied than girls from farther south in isaan. not dark like khmers.

i do find chiang rai and mai girls to be the most attractive in the country, albeit most are quite short. second for me would be either bkk / central gals or southern girls, who are a bit dark skinned, but have more malay features and fuller figures.

tulip has been in decline for a long time. and it seems the average age is getting on up there. i agree with you there.

it seems that better looking gals are gravitating to places where they have to perform less. of course so many dudes just accept what they get and pay "full price" even when the session was crap.

my pet peeve is gals who have had kids. just don't like 'them. always ask which girls have kids when i am at an oily. that thins the herd.

was in electric blue tonight. nanapong dance contest. you know the coyote gals there just don't interest me. too young, hard isaan faces, and most are too thin for me. a few good bodies, but the attitudes, yesh! gals think they are a gift to the world.

i still say that girls in gogos were better looking in 99 when i moved here. far more stunners (and more gals from the far north). and definitely better attitudes.
truthfully syn, i partake less and less now. probably only about 3 times a month. why? because it is harder and harder for me to find a decent mix of looks and performance and i get tired of doing the same gal over and over again. many times i do a walk of the pses and i'm hornier than a three-peckered billy goat, but the gals there are so physically unappealing that i just end up heading home. i would be just as frustrated if i took a "pretty" gogo gal and she would not rim or get nasty like a pse shop gal. i would gladly pay gogo gal prices if i was assured of getting full on pse performance. sadly that option just does not really exist here. closest to here might be the saunas in macau.

[PinkPearl]

Pink, for my first seven or so years here I took FLs about 75% of the time. Have had hundreds of them. And I would say, "back in the day" 95% of my experiences were quite good. However, the past few years I have not been so fortunate. And I really don't have the patience these days to put up with even a 50% batting average. That is why unless I know the girl or have heard several good reports from friends who have similar tastes as me, I just don't go with FLs.Showing them porn video of what you want & they agree to do and establishing chemistry beforehand should up your percentage to near perfect. Others negotiate what they want in advance, though nowadays I usually just let them do whatever they're going to do or comfortable with & have not been disappointed. It's always a surprise as with independents such as ladies of the street every girl is different rather than following a cookie cutter mold. Speaking Thai should make all of this even easier, but I don't & do ok.

[Keeper50]

Would anyone know where a guy can catch NFL games? I'm specifically looking for the Sunday night game, which would be early Monday morning here in BKK (around 7:30 am).

[Eric Tile]

Thank you Joker for your excellent informative report. ET.

[Goatscrot]

Showing them porn video of what you want & they agree to do and establishing chemistry beforehand should up your percentage to near perfect. Others negotiate what they want in advance, though nowadays I usually just let them do whatever they're going to do or comfortable with & have not been disappointed. It's always a surprise as with independents such as ladies of the street every girl is different rather than following a cookie cutter mold. Speaking Thai should make all of this even easier, but I don't & do ok.Pink, I speak Thai fairly well after 15 years as a resident of BKK. I think on issue with residency is the longer you are here the less BS you are willing to put up with. I don't take gal to my room and so showing them a video is not an option. And truth be told I have very little want to hang out and talk with a working girl. I just want a nice 90 min, two shot, PSE encounter, and then I want to be on my merry way. And I never want a girl to do anything she is uncomfortable with. If she does not want to do something I don't get upset. I just get up, put my clothes on, leave a small tip (as I do negotiate what I want before hand), and I am out of there. Of course since I really don't take FLs unless I know them or they are vouched for these days, I don't have this issues so much.

[Pipe Layer99]

.... the less BS you are willing to put up with... Pink Pearl is right. If the girl (FL or otherwise) does not deliver as previously agreed upon, she has to go and right away. Sure, no need to get upset, just send her packing.

[ActionOriented]

Has anyone had this issue before??Thanks for the report. Rainbow bars have got the worst at-door management, there was an old report on ISG from way back where an American of Indian origin was hurt by the doormen for questioning why he was being denied entry. This issue seems to have cropped up after a while, but this is in no way a new incident at this establishment. The door men at the Rainbow bars seem to be the worst of the lot in all of LOS, who unnecessarily get aggressive and I am glad to hear that you stood up to them and managed to get away with it. These bars are best avoided since these weak (asshole) men at the door would try and gang up on patrons who they think do not deserve to be let in. I have tried to enter this place only once and when I was told I won't be allowed in on account of not being a member (and I saw others not being asked the same question), I walked away not wanting any trouble. This place just has a seedy reputation, avoid it, nothing can be done about it.

[Steve7777]

My fellow mongers,

Before writing this post I tried to figure out from the account settings how long I have been a member. I was not able to. Point being, I don't post often as I should.

Something happened tonight that I feel I should share so that all reading can beware. I have visited BKK six times in the last 10 months and will continue, due to my job. I love Thailand and the people, especially the women. My first visit today was Shark" at Soi Cowboy and had a blast. I met two beautiful gals (#57 and 118) that I will see later tonight or this week. "Shark "has some of the best looking gals I have seen so far. I paid a visit to Teen VIP massage yesterday on Sukhumvit 33 yesterday and did the deed with "Donna" whom I recommend both on looks and personality and performance. I also visited DR. BJ an choose "P" who performed well and was cute.

I have been a member of this site and WSG probably since 2006/2007. I travel to world due to my job in the transportation industry. I seldom post, but after today I will be more active...So what are you. Paki-american? Egyptian-American? Philipino-american? Indian-american? Mex-american?

Next time you should walk away when that happens. 20 little Thai dudes will kick your butt.

Unfortunately Rainbow 2 is one of the few top quality bars around so its not to go elsewhere.

[Fast Eddie 48]

I do check 24/1 regularly. I did not find any stunner recently. Last ones were Angie at Cherry and Bai Fern at Yoremichi. That is some time ago. So I don't agree. Stunners can be found in bars. Both face and body. Its not easy but possible. I suppose if I looked in many Oilies including for Japan customers only I might find something, but its not easy to devote time to survey all the Oilies.

Looks in Soapies have become more plastic in the modern times with too many nose jobs and tit jobs.

I don't consider the average looking types at either place, since they become somewhat invisible to me. I only focus on the best. I don't believe the lighter skin theory either.

PSE shops are dominated by Nakorn Phanom and nearby girls. Bar girls come from many locations. Oily girls probably similar. Obviously Buri Ram girls can be dark but not always.

Chiang Rai girls are more commonly in Soapies and probably are considered the best looking on average.

I think Khon Kaen and Udon girls are in bars more than in Oilies. They can be tall and pretty sometimes.

I think girls with really bad bodies will work in Oilies more than as go go as body will look terrible with clothes off. Ugly faces can be found anywhere. Last time at Tulip, T1234 and I were rather stunned by how horrible the line up was. We were really shocked. We may have picked an unlucky time. Never seen that bad in a bar recently. Really we would need to receive a lot of money to consider doing them. The decline is severe indeed since the days of Dao, Nestle, Yok, etc. or seemed so at the time.To Syzygies.

I am one of the lucky one who did Angie at cherry 6 month ago one of the most beautiful model quality girl I ever meet in Thailand, too bad she is no longer around she told me she work part time from her modeling job during the shutdown she only work for few week at cherry.

Fast eddie 48.

[Allover]

I can handle myself with tiny Thai dudes. So my advice, spend your money elsewhere, there are plenty of places in Bangkok. Stay away from Rainbow 2 at NANA Plaza.

Has anyone had this issue before??You've traveled extensively and been on this board for a long time but you still foolishly put yourself in position to wind up in a Thai hospital. Normally I wouldn't respond to this but I'm concerned a newbie might read this and try the same thing. Leave your American values of fairness and discrimination at home when you depart for Thailand. Life is different in the LOS. Viva la difference (although I don't agree with their discriminatory practices).

As others before have stated on this board just move on. Thais don't fight fair. There are too many other venues to explore.

[Goatscrot]

Pink Pearl is right. If the girl (FL or otherwise) does not deliver as previously agreed upon, she has to go and right away. Sure, no need to get upset, just send her packing.Which is exactly what I do and what I stated.

[LA Guy 5]

You've traveled extensively and been on this board for a long time but you still foolishly put yourself in position to wind up in a Thai hospital. Normally I wouldn't respond to this but I'm concerned a newbie might read this and try the same thing. Leave your American values of fairness and discrimination at home when you depart for Thailand. Life is different in the LOS. Viva la difference (although I don't agree with their discriminatory practices).

As others before have stated on this board just move on. Thais don't fight fair. There are too many other venues to explore.I don't disagree about the dangers of getting in a fight with a Thai or group of Thais. Not a good idea at all. As to leaving American values of fairness and discrimination at home, I may be wrong about this but aren't the NEP bars owned by westerners? If so, given the general rule "fish rot from the head," aren't they the ones imposing the discriminatory practices?

Again, I'm not suggesting creating a scene over such issues would prove productive, but that does not detract from the offensiveness of such discriminatory practices. I for one am that much less inclined to frequent the Rainbow bars after hearing these sorts of accounts.

[Stykler]

As to leaving American values of fairness and discrimination at homeIsn't this what they call a misnomer?

[Syzygies]

my pet peeve is gals who have had kids. just don't like 'them. always ask which girls have kids when i am at an oily. that thins the herd.
i don't mind mothers at all. the only problem is some mothers have ugly saggy tits. however i don't need a tiny extremely tight pussy, with girls being really dick scared. mothers are generally less dick scared.

isn't june (ex-sw) and recently back at lilly, a mother? i forget.

[Syzygies]

What a difference a day makes. Went to Hot Lips a 2nd time. Sunday line up was well below the Saturday line up. 50% of girls over weight for my standards. Only 2 hot girls remained, and one had nose a little two big. Mint was absent. Noi got BFed by someone else. Some other nice girls were missing.

Just shows that small bars are particularly unreliable, if not there on the best day.

[Goatscrot]

I don't mind mothers at all. The only problem is some mothers have ugly saggy tits. However I don't need a tiny extremely tight pussy, with girls being really dick scared. Mothers are generally less dick scared.

Isn't June (ex-SW) and recently back at Lilly, a mother? I forget.Pussy size is not really my concern. It is as you say, the saggy tits and the map of Thailand on the stomach.

June has a kid, but it is quite hard to tell. She took good care of herself when preggers, obviously.

[JokerInter]

You've traveled extensively and been on this board for a long time but you still foolishly put yourself in position to wind up in a Thai hospital. Normally I wouldn't respond to this but I'm concerned a newbie might read this and try the same thing. Leave your American values of fairness and discrimination at home when you depart for Thailand. Life is different in the LOS. Viva la difference (although I don't agree with their discriminatory practices).

As others before have stated on this board just move on. Thais don't fight fair. There are too many other venues to explore.My report was simply to share my event with fellow mongers on this site and help to to avoid places as such. I do not know why I was not allowed in, and at this point I really don't care. Perhaps a group of Japanese men had the placed packed $$ and did not want others as Japanese are very insecure. I read about this in Tokyo section and stayed away from those places when I was there, but this is all speculation. My point being, I read and research places on this site before I visit and stay away from trouble. My report was simply to contribute to all the usefulness of this site.

Viva la difference? When it comes to working girls and money, it the same everywhere you go. It aint like its free!

On a different note, Koi #57 from Shark on soi cowboy was great excellent last night. She's from Chang mai and has the best body and looks from anyone girl I have seen so far in LOS. BBBJ, CIM, anal and a pussy to die for, tight and wet. I fucked her all positions. A+ to her for fucking like a rabbit.

I met Kong from Afterskool (Soi Cowboy) on Saturday night. Did not take her out but fingered her pussy while she sat on my hand. Cute young chic. If your not shy, check out Afterskool.

[Bunky]

You've traveled extensively and been on this board for a long time but you still foolishly put yourself in position to wind up in a Thai hospital. Normally I wouldn't respond to this but I'm concerned a newbie might read this and try the same thing. Leave your American values of fairness and discrimination at home when you depart for Thailand and just move on. Thais don't fight fair.I realize it's easy for me to pile on here. I'm a pasty-faced, middle-aged falang who travels alone, so doormen size me up as an ideal customer and I'm welcome at all the usual haunts on the punter circuit. (OK, my baht are welcomed. But I'm comfortable being a life support system for my wallet. I really am.)

But at the risk of wasting bandwidth I think it's important to add a big Plus One to Mr. Allover's most excellent advice. American notions of equal treatment for all are unknown to the hard men who make their living in the adult entertainment industry overseas. These guys make regular bouncers look like Maya Fucking Angelou. So save the Kumbaya for Berkeley. Resist the temptation to cite Title II of the Civil Rights of 1964. When a bouncer says move along, shake a leg. Sure it's not right. But would you rather be right or UPRIGHT? Bouncers gravitate to that job because they enjoy the power trip. They are just looking for an excuse to kick your ass. It's better to walk away to get laid elsewhere than it is to stand on principle.

Bunky

[Syzygies]

Bouncers gravitate to that job because they enjoy the power trip. They are just looking for an excuse to kick your ass. It's better to walk away to get laid elsewhere than it is to stand on principle.

BunkyDon't pick a fight with a Thai girl either at any bar area, etc. You would be surprised how many Thai guys could show in a big hurry to beat the crap out of you.

I saw a guy coming out of the Thermae once who just could not let some argument go, and just had to keep coming back to the girl. Very soon got beaten up just a little further down the street. I didn't see it but from the sound, it wasn't good.

Another thing. The number of Farangs, that I hear of committing suicide or getting murdered in Bangkok is quite astonishing. I probably don't know them personally but manager of a popular pub knew many of them. Most are not investigated properly. Try hard not to give anyone a motive. Bangkok seems a safe place, but still need to take some care not to look for trouble. Those who look for trouble, find it very quickly.

[Simon Wagstaff]

I am planning on spending a couple of days in Bangkok in March of next year. I am planning a business trip around some things and would have the option of spending a couple days mid-week or over a weekend. I can plan things how I would like. I am not into big crowds and party scene, my gut is telling me that I would have a more relaxed and enjoyable time visiting on a Tuesday and Wednesday. This works well for me in Tijuana for example. I know it's not much time, I will plan things out, but not too much and want to come away with just a little of the flavor of Bangkok and then proceed on to Singapore. Any advice welcome, also, any holidays or festivals I need to be aware of?

Now, I have read through this forum and will also ask a lazy question I suppose. If you had just two full days in Bangkok, what would you do?

[Syzygies]

What a difference a day makes. Went to Hot Lips a 2nd time. Sunday line up was well below the Saturday line up. 50% of girls over weight for my standards. Only 2 hot girls remained, and one had nose a little two big. Mint was absent. Noi got BFed by someone else. Some other nice girls were missing.

Just shows that small bars are particularly unreliable, if not there on the best day.Today bumped into Tansak KTV while walking from Nana BTS past Landmark. We split up as HE was going to a different bar to meet someone. I looked in Hot Lips again. Line up improved again, even before Mint showed up very late. Bar girls are expected to arrive at 7 PM. They get fined for each minute past that time, 3 Baht. She arrives 9:20 PM. That is expensive. She has her reasons. Minding some other girl's child during the day.

I BF her immediately. She does not need to even get changed. Great fuck. No pornstar, but she was into it. She got turned on during the DATY. Could tell when her back arching position changed to different posture to make the DATY work better. However no cum yet. Excellent slow and deep BJ despite the braces. Raises knees very high and very relaxed during sex which helps a lot. You can tell when a girl's motion and pace changes during the sex that she is getting close. I reckon she got two pops from pressure on clit area. Me only one.

Got her number this time so can check when working. Very pretty to my taste, great nose and lips, very nice tits with very dark nipples. Only weakness is her ass is a slightly on small side. Slightly shy. For a relatively inexperienced bargirl she is pretty damn good (inexperience can be great). She only gets barfined by Farangs. Not the type for the Japanese and Chinese customers. Right now there are a very large number of Chinese tourists in Bangkok, it seems, perhaps many from Hong Kong.

Nude dancing and limited shows have returned to some bars in Cowboy. However very limited in duration due to the Police. The Police go home at 2AM or so.

[Wolvenvacht]

Now, I have read through this forum and will also ask a lazy question I suppose. If you had just two full days in Bangkok, what would you do?First day: get up early and take the SkyTrain and Express Riverboat to the Royal Palace / Emerald Buddha Temple and visit it. Have some street food and go to a naughty massage place for a massage with happy ending. Then take some rest and after dinner go to Soi Cowboy and get an agogo girl for LT.

Second day: have the agogo girl take care of the morning wood, then breakfast and go to some shopping malls and do some shopping. Have lunch in the foodcourt of the shopping mall. In the afternoon visit Eden Club and have a PSE threesome. In the evening (if I have still energy) go to Dr. BJ or have another naughty massage and finish with a good Thai dinner.

But of course none of these plans ever seem to work in Thailand.

[Simon Wagstaff]

First day: get up early and take the SkyTrain and Express Riverboat to the Royal Palace / Emerald Buddha Temple and visit it. Have some street food and go to a naughty massage place for a massage with happy ending. Then take some rest and after dinner go to Soi Cowboy and get an agogo girl for LT.

Second day: have the agogo girl take care of the morning wood, then breakfast and go to some shopping malls and do some shopping. Have lunch in the foodcourt of the shopping mall. In the afternoon visit Eden Club and have a PSE threesome. In the evening (if I have still energy) go to Dr. BJ or have another naughty massage and finish with a good Thai dinner.

But of course none of these plans ever seem to work in Thailand.Thank you for your kind response. I certainly have the Eden club on my radar but may be looking for a kinder, gentler experience. I definitely want to get some Thai food and think that a combination of street vendors and a nice restaurant or two will provide a nice experience. Won't be going until March, lots of time.

[Wolvenvacht]

Thank you for your kind response. I certainly have the Eden club on my radar but may be looking for a kinder, gentler experience. I definitely want to get some Thai food and think that a combination of street vendors and a nice restaurant or two will provide a nice experience. Won't be going until March, lots of time.Actually the Eden Club is less hard-core than you might expect. Much will depend what you want and unless you can keep active for the full 90 minutes (which at my age is no longer possible), there is ample opportunity to hug & cuddle too and recover your breath. As always, the key is good communication. Just tell the girls what you want and I'd be surprised if they cannot deliver.

[Syzygies]

Now, I have read through this forum and will also ask a lazy question I suppose. If you had just two full days in Bangkok, what would you do?What we would do is little relevance to what you would do. You are lazy indeed to not think about what appeals to you. If I had just two days, I would make it include Saturday if possible for best bar line ups, but maybe you don't like bars anyway. Sunday could be weak. Mid week could be okay Different guys would do very different things. I assume we are not talking sight-seeing.

However my suggestion is to try everything significant if you have time and haven't tried before, a Pornstar Oily Massage place, maybe a Soapy place like Amsterdam or Nataree, a go-go bar, a BJ shop, and maybe even a body slide like Dr. BJ Nuru. Your plans may well change if you liked some thing too much.

Eden would not be on my list of "significant". It was a sort of acted script type place when I went there.

[Francesco24]

Today bumped into Tansak KTV while walking from Nana BTS past Landmark. We split up as HE was going to a different bar to meet someone. I looked in Hot Lips again. Line up improved again, even before Mint showed up very late. Bar girls are expected to arrive at 7 PM. They get fined for each minute past that time, 3 Baht. She arrives 9:20 PM. That is expensive. She has her reasons. Minding some other girl's child during the day.

I BF her immediately. She does not need to even get changed. Great fuck. No pornstar, but she was into it. She got turned on during the DATY. Could tell when her back arching position changed to different posture to make the DATY work better. However no cum yet. Excellent slow and deep BJ despite the braces. Raises knees very high and very relaxed during sex which helps a lot. You can tell when a girl's motion and pace changes during the sex that she is getting close. I reckon she got two pops from pressure on clit area. Me only one.

Got her number this time so can check when working. Very pretty to my taste, great nose and lips, very nice tits with very dark nipples. Only weakness is her ass is a slightly on small side. Slightly shy. For a relatively inexperienced bargirl she is pretty damn good (inexperience can be great). She only gets barfined by Farangs. Not the type for the Japanese and Chinese customers. Right now there are a very large number of Chinese tourists in Bangkok, it seems, perhaps many from Hong Kong.

Nude dancing and limited shows have returned to some bars in Cowboy. However very limited in duration due to the Police. The Police go home at 2AM or so.After reading the nice reviews of Hot Lips I decided to change my visit from Cowboy to Nana!

If I go tomorrow evening I'll post my experience. Even if I have to go very early at 7 pm.

Does Mint have any number tag to identify her?(even I really couldn't wait for her until 9 pm).

[Pipe Layer99]

After reading the nice reviews of Hot Lips I decided to change my visit from Cowboy to Nana!

If I go tomorrow evening I'll post my experience. Even if I have to go very early at 7 pm.

Does Mint have any number tag to identify her?(even I really couldn't wait for her until 9 pm).Don't over-think your night plans. Go to the place of your choice and have a look around. You might get there and decide you don't like it. Or maybe the line up of ladies on that night is not your taste. Then you can stroll on over to check out the next place of interest. After checking out the scene at nana, if it's not doing it for you, grab a cab to cowboy. You will be there in just a few minutes. .

[Syzygies]

After reading the nice reviews of Hot Lips I decided to change my visit from Cowboy to Nana!
You should be aware my individual taste is not typical. Other guys like to go to Rainbow and RB4. Bars that bore me. If I like one girl at a bar, doesn't mean anyone else will like her. I just point out as an example that can find a pretty bar girl that can be fun rather than be a star fish.

Skinny toned Noi with a hot ass is recommended. Squeezing pussy. Could be No. 12. I am not good with numbers.

In general I prefer Cowboy over Nana for finding girls of my types. The only girl I liked in Rainbow was waitress No. 223. Very cute.

Don't bother to show up before 8PM. The bars don't really open at 7PM. Some officially open at 7:30 or 8PM but are slow to get going. Good advice by Pipe Layer. You have to find what YOU like, not what I like.

One or two girls can be the difference between a dull bar and an O.K. bar for me. Others might want to be impressed by the whole line up. Can't see that happening.

As I said before, some bars like RB4 have a lot of good bodies, but standard of faces lag far behind. I prefer a pretty face, cute nose, and a great ass with skinny thighs.

[Oliver Kitsoff]

actually the eden club is less hard-core than you might expect. much will depend what you want and unless you can keep active for the full 90 minutes (which at my age is no longer possible), there is ample opportunity to hug & cuddle too and recover your breath. as always, the key is good communication. just tell the girls what you want and i'd be surprised if they cannot deliver.eden club is to my mind, one of the ultimate brothel experiences to be had.

you are entirely correct in saying the girls response is limited only by your imagination, although i have never asked for it, i'm sure they'd even [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on you, i don't think they'd go further than that in terms of toilet, not that it's my thing, i'm just rambling.

they will use strap on (even on you, they even openly ask you sometimes when doing their lez thing.) in my time i have even arranged a quiet little 420 session in the room, although i'm not sure if that's ok these days. there was no additional charge for that btw, one of the girls downstairs must have had it.

i always leave with a genuine smile on my face, the same one i had when i was driving home from losing my cherry to a milf in my late teens.

i also like eden because it is milf central, also any girl still fucking at their age is genuinely into the sex for its own sake, they have literally ridden and tamed the burn-out that knocks most of the little spinners out the game early. true some may 'wear' the lifestyle on their faces, but the slightly haggard look of uber-nymphos appeals to me too.

i go to the bars to ogle, i rarely get my sex from them.

my beat is freelancers and eden, although the biergarten talent pool has been disappointing in the last year or so. thermae, which supplied me with some unforgettable and very repeatable services is pretty much a japanese venue now, i can't remember the last time i found a suitable girl in there, must be years ago, and yet i morosely haunt it like a homesick ghost.

the girls are just over-paid (b4000) little jap 'baby doll' types, i like that in porn but it does not work for me in reality.

the last girl i took from biergarten was a bit of a user. the sex was ok, but she had a whole bunch of sly shark tactics, and even started to nag me like a gf at one point! fatal mistake, she was out the door in two minutes, never even had time to grab her panties.

[Oliver Kitsoff]

Nude dancing and limited shows have returned to some bars in Cowboy. However very limited in duration due to the Police. The Police go home at 2AM or so.These crackdowns just puzzle me, almost every new parliament / junta initiate them, they rarely last. All it does is hurt the 'tourist industry' as a whole. I use the word 'tourist industry' loosely.

Punter or not, a channel news-asia report last night said that Thai tourism was in the doldrums due to recent history and current events.

The best thing the Thai Police could ever do for themselves and this country, is get serious about road traffic violations. Leave the girls and boys alone, you have the worlds second worst traffic death statistics, fix it!

[Mouse1]

In my time I have even arranged a quiet little 420 session in the room, although I'm not sure if that's OK these days. There was no additional charge for that BTW, one of the girls downstairs must have had it.I realise that the forum spell-checker does strange things, but otherwise I am intrigued... What is a 420 session, and why might it not be OK these days?

On a similar line, you are probably aware that the Devils Den in Pattaya provides a very similar service, and the girls are on the whole younger and cuter that the Eden Club.

But whether they provide a 420 service I don't know...!

[Syzygies]

Doll House is being refurbished downstairs. Upstairs has see through outfits and no knickers. Praow is rather cute and has magnificent natural Cee cups. I decided to BF her at 19:50 and then was told there is no BFing till 21:00.

Fuck them and their stupid rules. Walked out promptly. Went to Dr. BJ Nuru for a body slide plus very nice fuck.

My one complaint would be there are too many Thai boys hanging round this joint. More than are need to provide waiting service to the rooms. So you can guess what this means. Even one very short Tom working there. So her GF probably works there as well.

I think its a bad image having these types hanging around. Fortunately my girl has no one special there (I believe).

Don't understand as Annies does not have heaps of boys hanging around. Maybe the odd one.

[David 2]

I realise that the forum spell-checker does strange things, but otherwise I am intrigued... What is a 420 session, and why might it not be OK these days?

On a similar line, you are probably aware that the Devils Den in Pattaya provides a very similar service, and the girls are on the whole younger and cuter that the Eden Club.

But whether they provide a 420 service I don't know...!420 is code for "cannibis culture", which translates to smoking some marijuana.

[Mad Mad]

Stayed a couple of days recently at the Ruahmchitt hotel in Bangkok.

Was lacy so just went down to Thermae for pick-ups. Hard to come below 3000 Bath.

Age was also hard to find in lower twenties.

Is there other places like Thermae in Bangkok packed with freelancers but cheaper and if possible 20?

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Or how does it works if you find a bar girl / gogo girl with a number batch. Do they offer ST or LT hotel services.

[Margaya]

These crackdowns just puzzle me, almost every new parliament / junta initiate them, they rarely last. All it does is hurt the 'tourist industry' as a whole. I use the word 'tourist industry' loosely.

Punter or not, a channel news-asia report last night said that Thai tourism was in the doldrums due to recent history and current events.

The best thing the Thai Police could ever do for themselves and this country, is get serious about road traffic violations. Leave the girls and boys alone, you have the worlds second worst traffic death statistics, fix it!Wot?

Do you mean there are hardly any topless or nude shows in cowboy now a days? I find that impossible to believe. Baccara would be deserted without nudity.

[Goatscrot]

Stayed a couple of days recently at the Ruahmchitt hotel in Bangkok.

Was lacy so just went down to Thermae for pick-ups. Hard to come below 3000 Bath.

Age was also hard to find in lower twenties.

Is there other places like Thermae in Bangkok packed with freelancers but cheaper and if possible 20?

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Or how does it works if you find a bar girl / gogo girl with a number batch. Do they offer ST or LT hotel services.Wow! So they are up to 3 k on average now. Amazing. Last year gals were wanting 2 k.

Thermae used to be a wonderful place. I must have taken over 200 plus gals from there from 99 till about 07. Never paid more than 1 k ST. And it used to be a fun place as well with gals dancing by the juke box and most all of them drinking as well. They would walk up and grab your crotch, talk dirty, want to drink and party. Now they simple stand like zoo animals on display while the Japanese take laps around the place like horses past their prime on a track. Sad really. Both the cost and the absence of fun. Along with the original Martini's in Nom Pehn, it was one of the great bars in Asia. Kind of funny how when prices increase the fun level decreases, eh?

And dudes will continue to pay more and we will all have less fun.

[FreebieFan]

Wow! So they are up to 3 k on average now. Amazing. Last year gals were wanting 2 k.

Thermae used to be a wonderful place. I must have taken over 200 plus gals from there from 99 till about 07. Never paid more than 1 k ST. And it used to be a fun place as well with gals dancing by the juke box and most all of them drinking as well. They would walk up and grab your crotch, talk dirty, want to drink and party. Now they simple stand like zoo animals on display while the Japanese take laps around the place like horses past their prime on a track. Sad really.

Last trip I was doing the Cowboy / Nana walk and for old times sake, plus a bathroom needed, popped in.

It was like a set from a movie. Guys all chatting amongst themselves at the bar, and girls standing like mannequins. The only thing moving were their eyes.

Used to be great and fun. But long long long gone.

[PinkPearl]

Was lacy so just went down to Thermae for pick-ups. Hard to come below 3000 Bath.

Age was also hard to find in lower twenties.

Is there other places like Thermae in Bangkok packed with freelancers but cheaper and if possible 20?I'd have no idea how old TGs are without seeing their identification cards. Do you believe the age they tell you?

I've seen many at the Nana Hotel Parking Lot who looked about 18 & it turns out they're 5 or 10 years older.

RTF. There are plenty of references to where to find younger ladies.

3000 baht? For LT or the newbie to BKK who doesn't know any better rate? Or the it's low season no customers so up the price so I can pay loom pricing? Try the NEP area streetwalkers for no more than 1000 to 1500ST.

[Stykler]

Eden Club is to my mind, one of the ultimate brothel experiences to be had.

{Snip}

They will use strap on (even on you, they even openly ask you sometimes when doing their lez thing.) In my time I have even arranged a quiet little 420 session in the room, although I'm not sure if that's OK these days. There was no additional charge for that BTW, one of the girls downstairs must have had it.

{Bigger Snip}

I may get around with my head stuck up my arse, but after 10's of trips to Bangkok and years of reviewing these Thailand forums, this is the first reference to the dreaded weed I have seen on this forum. In my visits I've certainly never been offered any, and would be unlikely to trust a Thai to get me some 420 action in any event.

If this story is true, this bloke must have some guts. If there was one thing I wouldn't do in Thailand, it would be involving one's self in drugs. And I'm no prude by anyone's standards, trust me.

[Syzygies]

Thermae used to be a wonderful place. I must have taken over 200 plus gals from there from 99 till about 07. That would be the new Thermae? I used to use the old location Thermae from about 1991, but had only limited stay in Thailand in those years. I had fairly weak Thai language skills at that time. It was fun to find some good amateur hookers. By this, I mean girls with other types of work who were trying to make some extra on the side to make ends meet, afford a trip up country, or whatever. These girls often worked low paid jobs like shop assistants, hotel maids, switchboard operators, waitresses, etc. Some quite pretty girls available.

Met some really fun girls, also some very sweet girls, mostly they could not speak English at all well, so I got to practice my Thai speaking. Most confusing of all were girls who spoke a mixture of Thai and English, like one who would insert English pronouns "I" and "You" into a Thai sentence.

There was also "The Grace Coffee Shop" in competition with the Thermae, but a different mix of girls (less slim girls), and not as good.

I used to also attend the Thermae Soapy massage upstairs which was quite small but had a few hot girls. It was way better than the competition Darling in those days, for girl talent. Annies I did not try at that time.

I never had that much experience with the new relocated Thermae. Probably due to having a GF, and limited opportunity, and then when did try years later, wasn't the same. I recall not finding a girl inside (pretty late) one day and taking one from outside at the front. Maybe some girls were already oriented toward Japanese.

[Mouse1]

I may get around with my head stuck up my arse, but after 10's of trips to Bangkok and years of reviewing these Thailand forums, this is the first reference to the dreaded weed I have seen on this forum. In my visits I've certainly never been offered any, and would be unlikely to trust a Thai to get me some 420 action in any event.

If this story is true, this bloke must have some guts. If there was one thing I wouldn't do in Thailand, it would be involving one's self in drugs. And I'm no prude by anyone's standards, trust me.OK, now I understand 420. I agree I wouldn't touch drugs in any SE Asia country, but I get offered weed very often in pattaya. I hate getting mistaken for a hippy.

[Mogwai]

I hate getting mistaken for a hippy.Maybe it's time for a hair cut and a job? LOL!

[Syzygies]

Maybe it's time for a hair cut and a job? LOL!Are you talking Hair cut and a blow job or?

[BionicMan]

. Went to Dr. BJ Nuru for a body slide plus very nice fuck. My one complaint would be there are too many Thai boys hanging round this joint. More than are need to provide waiting service to the rooms. So you can guess what this means. Even one very short Tom working there. So her GF probably works there as well. I think its a bad image having these types hanging around. Fortunately my girl has no one special there (I believe). Don't understand as Annies does not have heaps of boys hanging around. Maybe the odd one.Maybe they are opening to new marketing options. LOL.

[Syzygies]

Maybe they are opening to new marketing options. LOL.I hope its not like girls saying they can only work there if their partner, also gets to stay there, or have a paid position. Anyway I don't like loads of Thai boys hanging around sex shops. It just gives a bad impression of the girls. We are better off not knowing their personal arrangements.

I saw a bargirl Crazy House (ex-Doll House) "Chocolat" at 2 am walking hand in hand with a Thai boy, not seeming to care if any of her customers saw her. I maybe biased / discriminatory, but I prefer Thai girls who don't have a BF potentially leaching off them. May not be the case every time, but one has to be suspicious.

Crazy House is a strange case as most of serving staff are girls or ladyboys. Still the odd Thai male staff but not too many fortunately. I like that they dispensed with having an older Thai guy manning the toilet to collect tips. Recently saw him hanging around Asoke entrance to Cowboy, not sure what he is doing there. Probably looking to take Farangs to special places.

I don't mind as much if Thai working girls have some "gik" that they meet for fun, however one wonders if they would use condoms and are safe form diseases.

One girl in Suzi Wong, mentioned before in posts, still works in the bar as has apartment and maybe car paid for by some Farang BF, who often isn't there, but not receiving enough money. She isn't even good looking to my taste. She picked up some fancy Thai boy, who then bashes her when she doesn't give him money. One time she could not come to work due to bruises. Why do working girls pick up such guys on drugs, etc. ? Its mystifying. The key point is one loses all respect for such girls.

There are other working girls financing gambling habits of some close family member, be it parent or brother. Some of these seem like nice girls, but cannot get a permanent good man, because stuck with supporting a bad family.

[Simian]

these crackdowns just puzzle me, almost every new parliament / junta initiate them, they rarely last. all it does is hurt the 'tourist industry' as a whole. i use the word 'tourist industry' loosely.

punter or not, a channel news-asia report last night said that thai tourism was in the doldrums due to recent history and current events.

the best thing the thai police could ever do for themselves and this country, is get serious about road traffic violations. leave the girls and boys alone, you have the worlds second worst traffic death statistics, fix it!best to see the police as gardeners and their patch as a garden. they weed out their garden from time to time (show who is boss, clear the freelancers off the street so that they do not compete with their "plants" in the form of lady bars, go-gos etc). from time to time they show up to collect some of the ripe produce in the form of payments.

do they make any money or get much benefit from road traffic violations (apart from the usual speed-trap operations etc which provide bribes) or the thieves, wife-beaters etc? no, or at least not as much as they make with so-called vice crackdowns. it is why they put so much effort into it.

[Syzygies]

Seemed to be little or no Police presence in Cowboy last two nights. Nude dancing, and naughty shows returned to the bars. Someone said their bar was recently visited by the army. Not sure if that is relevant. Bars seemed back to normal, except I am not what time they would close. 2AM is generally late enough for me.

Sukhumvit and Asoke full of outdoor illegal bars, not sure what time they open. Don't seem to have been suppressed much.

[DRRonin]

I saw a bargirl Crazy House (ex-Doll House) "Chocolat" at 2 am walking hand in hand with a Thai boy, not seeming to care if any of her customers saw her. I maybe biased / discriminatory, but I prefer Thai girls who don't have a BF potentially leaching off them. May not be the case every time, but one has to be suspicious.


I don't mind as much if Thai working girls have some "gik" that they meet for fun, however one wonders if they would use condoms and are safe form diseases.

There are other working girls financing gambling habits of some close family member, be it parent or brother. Some of these seem like nice girls, but cannot get a permanent good man, because stuck with supporting a bad family.It has been my experience that nearly every Thai bar girl has either a Thai BF or a Thai Tom or are simply between them. Of course nearly all will say that they don't but they do. I know only of one girl in Rainbow 3 who will tell the customer that she can't do Long Time because she has a BF waiting for her. Let's face it these girls are prime targets for leeching boyfriends, they have more money than any other girls in Thailand, are sexually available and love to party. Exactly the kind of girls they want. A lot of these guys work, if they work at all, around the girls as either dj's, security, servers or motorcycle drivers. If you get on to the Facebook pages of many of these girls they will have photos of their BF's and children. I recall all too well when I had one girl over with her friend and she sort of said she wanted so see more of me and I told her she had a BF. "Noooo. Not me! Never" I told her I had seen him many times on her FB page. Oops. The look between the two friends was classic. Caught!

I have gotten to know one girl pretty well who works in a gogo and she went through every girl in the place and told me where their BF's work. Or Toms which a lot more have than you might expect. Nearly all worked around Nana Plaza. Of course she is the only girl who doesn't have one! And I think we can all assume that condoms are rarely used which is why so many of these girls get knocked up sooner or later. There is no need to have allusions though that these girls are single independent workers. Why should we care really? But if you get interested in a girl for more than sex, believe me the chances of her having someone is really high. So be careful.

[PinkPearl]

Pink, I speak Thai fairly well after 15 years as a resident of BKK. I think on issue with residency is the longer you are here the less BS you are willing to put up with. I don't take gal to my room and so showing them a video is not an option. And truth be told I have very little want to hang out and talk with a working girl. I just want a nice 90 min, two shot, PSE encounter, and then I want to be on my merry way. And I never want a girl to do anything she is uncomfortable with. If she does not want to do something I don't get upset. I just get up, put my clothes on, leave a small tip (as I do negotiate what I want before hand), and I am out of there. Of course since I really don't take FLs unless I know them or they are vouched for these days, I don't have this issues so much.Take gal to "your room" to see a porn clip? Why? News flash, it's 2014 not 1995 now. Almost everyone has a mobile device, including working girls.

I assume you are in a room when you have sex with a hooker. Unless you like to do it out in public somewhere.

[Syzygies]

It has been my experience that nearly every Thai bar girl has either a Thai BF or a Thai Tom or are simply between them. Your sample bar may be unrepresentative.

I find little point in generalising or trying to say they are all the same. Every individual has varying circumstances. There are definitely bargirls smart enough to not have a Thai BF. Girls that go away with customer for one or 2 week stretches are unlikely to have a Thai BF.

It maybe that the majority of Bargirls have a Thai BF. Its wise to be aware its a strong possibility. There is no need to try to be sure in each and every case. I have never tried to have a GF that came from a bar, so its not so important. I too have known bargirls that were fairly open and one girl showed me pictures of her Tom, who was in another province and did not supposedly know her GF was a part time bargirl, nor fucking guys. LOL. There is plenty of gossip about other girls' BFs or Toms too.

I know of bargirls that left bar to go live with a Farang living in Thailand 24/7. Probably does not have Thai boy on the side, but cannot be sure. Not wise to trust any bargirl completely. Plenty of deception.

Some bargirls left bar and went to live in a foreign country with Farang husband. Would not be possible to take a Thai BF with them in the suitcase. LOL.

[DRRonin]

Stayed a couple of days recently at the Ruahmchitt hotel in Bangkok.

Was lacy so just went down to Thermae for pick-ups. Hard to come below 3000 Bath.

Age was also hard to find in lower twenties.

Is there other places like Thermae in Bangkok packed with freelancers but cheaper and if possible 20?

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Or how does it works if you find a bar girl / gogo girl with a number batch. Do they offer ST or LT hotel services.No. The Freelance scene in Bangkok has gotten horrible over the past 3-4 years. Not really sure why but there are a bunch of possible reasons. The vast majority of them are older and more expensive and less friendly than those of only a few years ago. Gullivers. Numbers are way down, generally in their late 20's and go for 2-3 k, sometimes ask for more. Beer Garden. Basically a retirement home for old working girls. Bangkok Beat, again nearly all are from 25-35 and not great, ask for 2-3 k. Sukhumvit on the street, stay far away, mainly Africans at night and the girls in the day time should have an expiration date stamped on their foreheads. Nana Parking Lot, the numbers are drastically lower than a few years back due to police raids, every now and then you can find a young cute one but your timing has to be impeccable. Lots of Ladyboys as well. Climax Disco, mainly in the 25+ category but sometimes younger. Ask for 3 k but may take less. A service girl there told me it closes at 2 am now and doesn't really get started till midnight, so a small window of opportunity. For years I never bothered with gogo girls and stuck strictly to freelancers but over the past 2 years I have had no choice but to go to gogos. Heck, they are with barfine included cheaper than girls at the Thermae who are asking for 3 k and you get to see how they look. People have to be nuts to be giving Fls 3000 baht for short time but apparently they are.

As to your second question I am not sure I understand, in gogos and beer bars any one with a badge is available always for short time and sometimes for long time. They will go to your hotel with you unless they insist on a nearby short time hotel which is becoming more common. Or in some cases I have heard of lately in the RB bars they will charge you 500 baht more to go to your hotel rather than a st hotel. Its all getting crazy and will continue to do so I expect.

[Hermescali]

Should have an expiration date stamped on their foreheads.

[Kerrstar]

No. The Freelance scene in Bangkok has gotten horrible over the past 3-4 years. Not really sure why but there are a bunch of possible reasons. If you're even in Singapore you'll find lots of young Thai (and Lao, Viet, etc.) girls working there. Easy visas and cheap airfares, plus substantially better money for them has probably convinced a lot to ply their trade there instead.

Can't really blame them. Well, this is my theory behind an apparent lack of talent in BKK. I'd also say that a much higher standard of living for younger, more educated girls earning better salaries than 10 20 years ago has probably taken a lot out of the game.

[Kerrstar]

I hope its not like girls saying they can only work there if their partner, also gets to stay there, or have a paid position. Anyway I don't like loads of Thai boys hanging around sex shops. It just gives a bad impression of the girls. We are better off not knowing their personal arrangements.I was told by the owner of a bar in Soi 7/1 that the Dr. Nura (? I can't remember the name) bar on the left is mainly for show and it's more for money laundering than mongering, although that goes on as well. It's one of the few bars where you do see lots of Thai boys hanging around. Not sure how much truth there is to this but it's a big place and doesn't seem to have that many customers from what I've seen the few times I've drunk down that way.

[Syzygies]

I was told by the owner of a bar in Soi 7/1 that the Dr. Nura (? I can't remember the name) bar on the left is mainly for show and it's more for money laundering than mongering, although that goes on as well. It's one of the few bars where you do see lots of Thai boys hanging around. Not sure how much truth there is to this but it's a big place and doesn't seem to have that many customers from what I've seen the few times I've drunk down that way.Dr. BJ Nuru is a body slide massage joint. Its not a bar as such even if getting a drink is possible. Associated with Dr BJ blowjob shop and Annies Massage. I imagine that owner of Annies is probably at least the majority owner or more. Several ex-Annies girls work there. Perhaps you talk about something else. Your story seems slightly garbled.

I have been a customer several times and nothing strange about it other than more Thai boys hanging around than desirable. They can't all be useful. The girls do seem to get customers. No reason why not. There is a shortage of shops providing a good body slide "massage" in Bangkok.

There are number of bars and massage shops and many do not look that busy with a brief passing by regularly. E. g. Plame Massage. Has lady boys and ugly girls sitting out the front. Never saw them actually get a customer, but it doesn't mean they don't. The girls at Bai Fern body massage shop definitely look a hell of a lot better. Obviously there is also Eden, Magic Tables, and a few other businesses I can't remember the names of.

Its quite possible there are businesses in Thailand that don't actually need to make money in reality, and for money laundering. The Arab's Coyote bars in Soi Cowboy seem to be a great example, as don't ever seem to have enough business to pay all those Coyote girls and there are lots.

[Sunlover2]

Nana Parking Lot, the numbers are drastically lower than a few years back due to police raids, every now and then you can find a young cute one but your timing has to be impeccable. Lots of Ladyboys as well.While this is true timing is indeed everything. I have found Friday and Saturday nights to be the best time to find a part time semi-pro with decent looks and body. Arrive around dusk and patiently hang out at one of the bars overlooking the NPL. Watch them arrive via taxi and moto and be prepared to act quickly. The LB's are generally across the street on the Nana Plaza side but their number do increase as the night progresses.

It also helps to be able to make multiple passes through at different times, so staying near ground zero assists in the NPL hunt. The ladies also prefer customers staying in the area as time is money for them.

SunLover.

[BionicMan]

Its quite possible there are businesses in Thailand that don't actually need to make money in reality, and for money laundering. The Arab's Coyote bars in Soi Cowboy seem to be a great example, as don't ever seem to have enough business to pay all those Coyote girls and there are lots.Talking about strange bars (opening-closing-opening-repainting), the one in the premises of Raja Hotel, just next to Annie's seems also a strange one.

Last year was opened as a sort of biker bar (Hot Pistons or something like).

In September there have been works going on to open a new bar there, Paradise.

I attach some pictures of the front.

Funny enough it says "opening 19th September" but the pictures were taken on the 27th!

After the 19th there was what looked a soft opening, but then closed then seems opened, but no punters.

[BionicMan]

I hope its not like girls saying they can only work there if their partner, also gets to stay there, or have a paid position. Anyway I don't like loads of Thai boys hanging around sex shops. It just gives a bad impression of the girls. We are better off not knowing their personal arrangements..I agree it does not look good to see the bar girl or working girl has a (thai) BF.

[Goatscrot]

Your sample bar may be unrepresentative.

I find little point in generalising or trying to say they are all the same. Every individual has varying circumstances. There are definitely bargirls smart enough to not have a Thai BF. Girls that go away with customer for one or 2 week stretches are unlikely to have a Thai BF.

It maybe that the majority of Bargirls have a Thai BF. Its wise to be aware its a strong possibility. There is no need to try to be sure in each and every case. I have never tried to have a GF that came from a bar, so its not so important. I too have known bargirls that were fairly open and one girl showed me pictures of her Tom, who was in another province and did not supposedly know her GF was a part time bargirl, nor fucking guys. LOL. There is plenty of gossip about other girls' BFs or Toms too.

I know of bargirls that left bar to go live with a Farang living in Thailand 24/7. Probably does not have Thai boy on the side, but cannot be sure. Not wise to trust any bargirl completely. Plenty of deception.

Some bargirls left bar and went to live in a foreign country with Farang husband. Would not be possible to take a Thai BF with them in the suitcase. LOL.Syn, I am amazed that is bothers some dudes that a WG has a Thai boyfriend. Does not bother me in the least. Kind of likes dudes that get upset when some other guy they know takes the same WG. They are WGs FFS! A quick shower and they are good as new.

[BionicMan]

Syn, I am amazed that is bothers some dudes that a WG has a Thai boyfriend. Does not bother me in the least. Kind of likes dudes that get upset when some other guy they know takes the same WG. They are WGs FFS! A quick shower and they are good as new.A thai boyfriend adds to the sick buffalo, the dead grandmothers, the young brother in hopistal, the mother about to die, the elder sister at university. Money suckers.

[Wolvenvacht]

I was told by the owner of a bar in Soi 7/1 that the Dr. Nura (? I can't remember the name) bar on the left is mainly for show and it's more for money laundering than mongering, although that goes on as well. It's one of the few bars where you do see lots of Thai boys hanging around. Not sure how much truth there is to this but it's a big place and doesn't seem to have that many customers from what I've seen the few times I've drunk down that way.These are stories that regularly are told about many bars and not only in Bangkok. I think that if you really want to do some serious money laundering a bar or naughty massage shop is the last thing that comes into your mind. Not only is the amount of money you can channel through it too small to bother, the various overheads (such as contributions to the local constabulary's tea money fund; maintaining all that useless staff; . . .) will eat into your bottom line, making the whole operation rather inefficient.

I think one can safely say that this is one of the urban legends.

[Oliver Kitsoff]

I may get around with my head stuck up my arse, but after 10's of trips to Bangkok and years of reviewing these Thailand forums, this is the first reference to the dreaded weed I have seen on this forum. In my visits I've certainly never been offered any, and would be unlikely to trust a Thai to get me some 420 action in any event.

If this story is true, this bloke must have some guts. If there was one thing I wouldn't do in Thailand, it would be involving one's self in drugs. And I'm no prude by anyone's standards, trust me.Like everything in life, one does a risk assessment. You choose your mark. I know several punters who indulge, and ladies too. Full moon parties (not my generation) are legendary for the menu on offer.

The guys doing long time in jail here try to smuggle shit in or out by the kilo. That's suicide.

If you were unlucky enough to get nailed for a smoke, a reefer is likely to cost you a relatively expensive bribe, and you're walking away. Have you ever seen anyone, Thai or Farang, paraded before the cameras with a single blunt on the desk of shame? Me neither.

If you think about it, the girls really want as little to do with the cops as possible, extrapolate that to your home country and the same rules of disengagement apply, for universal reasons, no one is turning you in for a quick puff, it implicates them, plus for all the girl knows, you could be one evil sumbitch, and arrange a little 'snitch payback' from inside, thus for a piddly smoke or a few shards, no one would risk it, the cops would not 'reward' them either, especially here, that's just ludicrous.

Much worse shit is rife here, and we all know that. In December of last year the Viagra stalls were selling rather crappy leaf on Sukhumvit, you just needed to look for the famed five fingered leaf motif either as a decal or a drawing, at those particular stalls, and you could get a compressed large 'oxo' cube for about THB200 bargaining hard.

Someone using a 'vicks' inhaler on the same street or in a club / bar is signalling they are marketing or looking for nose candy, which is likely to be meth rather than charlie. Naturally, now you're getting into heavy territory, but yeah, shit and the means to get it is everywhere, most of the girls are well up for it too, and if they aren't, just move on, so long as you are not dumb enough to be carrying in public, chances of being busted are no greater than elsewhere, and maybe even less. This is not news, actually it is, people (anonymous young recreational user Thais) have told no less than the Bangkok Post about the 'vicks' thing. That's how I know about it. Glass meth pipes and bongs can be found along Sukhumvit as well, what are they for, tourist souvenirs? Clearly there is a reasonable market, or they would not go to the trouble.

No doubt there will be outraged howls from blokes who are not willing to take the risk, or who always just say 'no' so be it. Strokes for folks. It's out there and it's not going away no matter how may people they hang, and lock up. One day they'll figure out there's more money to be made by taxing it like nicotine, instead of letting the cartels make trillions forever.

[Goatscrot]

A thai boyfriend adds to the sick buffalo, the dead grandmothers, the young brother in hopistal, the mother about to die, the elder sister at university. Money suckers.No doubt. Mang das they are. But I am just there for her snatch. Not really interested in her personal life.

[Syzygies]

Syn, I am amazed that is bothers some dudes that a WG has a Thai boyfriend. Does not bother me in the least. Kind of likes dudes that get upset when some other guy they know takes the same WG. They are WGs FFS! A quick shower and they are good as new.I have no jealousy for other custmers or who she wants to fuck. I prefer not to know if she has a Thai BF.

However when I know the BG has a Farang BF being duped, gets bashed by her Thai boy on the side I lose all respect for her and suddenly the desire disappears, perhaps even if she is the hottest girl around. If she is financing a house construction or Mother's gambling habit, I don't get the same bad feeling.

One girl I knew did booze, drugs, gambling, had a Thai BF, etc. Its like the money is getting pissed away, same as I waste it on mongering. Its better not to know anything.

[SteelBaton]

I partake less and less now. Probably only about 3 times a month. Why? Because it is harder and harder for me to find a decent mix of looks and performance and I get tired of doing the same gal over and over again. Many times I do a walk of the PSEs and I'm hornier than a three-peckered billy goat, but the gals there are so physically unappealing that I just end up heading home. I would be just as frustrated if I took a "pretty" GoGo gal and she would not rim or get nasty like a PSE shop gal. I would gladly pay GoGo gal prices if I was assured of getting full on PSE performance. Sadly that option just does not really exist here. Closest to here might be the saunas in Macau.Goat, sounds like you know the town too well! I haven't been to BKK in many years. Been spending my time in China. But I'll be passing through for one afternoon in a few weeks and was looking for a few suggestions. I am picky. I don't want MILFs and I don't want chubby girls and I don't want hard fake tits. I DO want young (truly less than 25), thin, be or see cups and naturally good service (BBBJ, fingering, anal would be a plus but I know that's asking a lot. Can I find this at Annies (pix look like a lot of fatties)? Or one of the oilies? Cherry's? Bamboo? On a Thursday late afternoon??

I was in Tulip a few years ago and that was depressing. Lots of old flabby gals. If you had to make a rifle shot suggestion of the one best place for me to try, what would you say??

Anyone else have a suggestion?

Much appreciated!

Mick.

[Mogwai]

These are stories that regularly are told about many bars and not only in Bangkok. I think that if you really want to do some serious money laundering a bar or naughty massage shop is the last thing that comes into your mind. Not only is the amount of money you can channel through it too small to bother, the various overheads (such as contributions to the local constabulary's tea money fund; maintaining all that useless staff; . . .) will eat into your bottom line, making the whole operation rather inefficient.

I think one can safely say that this is one of the urban legends.So then what is your explanation for the bars filled with Coyoto girls and no customers?

For all I know the local constabulary might be involved as well and is also laundering money through these bars.

[Member #4361]

Goat, sounds like you know the town too well! I haven't been to BKK in many years. Been spending my time in China. But I'll be passing through for one afternoon in a few weeks and was looking for a few suggestions. I am picky. I don't want MILFs and I don't want chubby girls and I don't want hard fake tits. I DO want young (truly less than 25), thin, be or see cups and naturally good service (BBBJ, fingering, anal would be a plus but I know that's asking a lot. Can I find this at Annies (pix look like a lot of fatties)? Or one of the oilies? Cherry's? Bamboo? On a Thursday late afternoon??

I was in Tulip a few years ago and that was depressing. Lots of old flabby gals. If you had to make a rifle shot suggestion of the one best place for me to try, what would you say??

Anyone else have a suggestion?

Much appreciated!

Mick.Hey, Mick.

During my recent trip I went to a bunch of different oily and soapy parlors. Nataree, the soapy near Huay Kwang Station, was by far the best. Get there around 4 pm and you will be more than pleased. Probably no anal but you will find the rest on your list.

Good luck,

Scorcher.

[Goatscrot]

Goat, sounds like you know the town too well! I haven't been to BKK in many years. Been spending my time in China. But I'll be passing through for one afternoon in a few weeks and was looking for a few suggestions. I am picky. I don't want MILFs and I don't want chubby girls and I don't want hard fake tits. I DO want young (truly less than 25), thin, be or see cups and naturally good service (BBBJ, fingering, anal would be a plus but I know that's asking a lot. Can I find this at Annies (pix look like a lot of fatties)? Or one of the oilies? Cherry's? Bamboo? On a Thursday late afternoon??

I was in Tulip a few years ago and that was depressing. Lots of old flabby gals. If you had to make a rifle shot suggestion of the one best place for me to try, what would you say??

Anyone else have a suggestion?

Much appreciated!

Mick.Gratzi!

Your best best for decent looking at the oilies is either Snow White or Lilly. There are some new gals at Lilly that might fit the bill.

[Goatscrot]

I have no jealousy for other custmers or who she wants to fuck. I prefer not to know if she has a Thai BF.

However when I know the BG has a Farang BF being duped, gets bashed by her Thai boy on the side I lose all respect for her and suddenly the desire disappears, perhaps even if she is the hottest girl around. If she is financing a house construction or Mother's gambling habit, I don't get the same bad feeling.

One girl I knew did booze, drugs, gambling, had a Thai BF, etc. Its like the money is getting pissed away, same as I waste it on mongering. Its better not to know anything.How can you tell when a Thai bar girl is lying? Her mouth is open and sound is coming out. Not in 100% of the cases, but in many. Why? Truth just is not that important to Thais. Seems to be that way in all face based cultures. Losing face is not the same as having a conscience.

[Roginho]

I'd have no idea how old TGs are without seeing their identification cards. Do you believe the age they tell you?

I've seen many at the Nana Hotel Parking Lot who looked about 18 & it turns out they're 5 or 10 years older.

RTF. There are plenty of references to where to find younger ladies.

3000 baht? For LT or the newbie to BKK who doesn't know any better rate? Or the it's low season no customers so up the price so I can pay loom pricing? Try the NEP area streetwalkers for no more than 1000 to 1500ST.Hey PinkPearl,

Where is NEP area? Never heard of that so far. Thanks for responding.

[Syzygies]

How can you tell when a Thai bar girl is lying? Her mouth is open and sound is coming out. Not in 100% of the cases, but in many. Why? Truth just is not that important to Thais. Seems to be that way in all face based cultures. Losing face is not the same as having a conscience.Bargirls may be a different breed. Most Thai girls that I have known closely (non bar girls) really hate liars. Truth is important to them, but not to all Thais. I have even known some apparently truthful bargirls that have little to hide from me, but have plenty to hide from others. One long time bargirl, these days only appears occasionally, tells me she has a Tom girlfriend not in Bangkok and shows me the picture, but then tells me the Tom doesn't know she sometimes works in the bar and especially doesn't know she fucks guys. I try to always put myself in a position where there is little reason to tell me bullshit.

Obviously girls that work the sex industry, need to lie to others about what they do, as it is generally not socially acceptable. So really the justification behind lies is important, and many things that a person does not know about me, will not hurt them.

Girls I have been close to in recent years typically clam up and say nothing rather than tell outright lies. I have known some really shocking liars as well.

I imagine that while we can be truthful on this forum, hiding behind a pseudonym, very few of us will be fully truthful about our mongering in real life.

In my opinion, everyone lies if they really have to. I don't fully understand why someone having told a minor or diplomatic lie should be reviled. The people that irritate me are the ones who lie needlessly, or what we might call bullshit artists or even con artists. Thais that recommend certain things where they get commission are of course a type of con artist. Even relatively truthful Thais have been known to do this and not think it is so bad.

Thai society is indeed full of liars, especially including Politicians, Police, etc.

[PinkPearl]

Hey PinkPearl,

Where is NEP area? Never heard of that so far. Thanks for responding.NEP stands for Nana Entertainment Plaza, the most famous mongering spot in Thailand, SEA, & the globe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nana_Plaza

[Wolvenvacht]

So then what is your explanation for the bars filled with Coyoto girls and no customers?

For all I know the local constabulary might be involved as well and is also laundering money through these bars.I have no idea what they are up to. Perhaps the owner of the bar is just a charitable person, providing employment for poor girls. It seems just as likely as it being a money laundering operation.

[BionicMan]

Hey PinkPearl,

Where is NEP area? Never heard of that so far. Thanks for responding.Have you ever been to BKK?

[Wolvenvacht]

Hey PinkPearl,

Where is NEP area? Never heard of that so far. Thanks for responding.Google is your friend: https://www.google.be/maps/@13.7415058,100.5529999,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1scmL4j2ih8kVdb0PULrJZ6w!2e0?hl=nl

[IllusionHeart]

I am visiting Bangkok from 1st Nov to 5th Nov. Then flying to Singapore.

Basis of RTFF and other inputs I have planned as under to experience a mix of FL, Oily / Soapy, BJ and Go-Go scene being my first visit to BKK.

Day 1: Land in afternoon. Session at Nataree in evening and later in the night at Spasso / CM2.

Day 2: BJ session at kasalong / Dr BJ in afternoon followed by session at Mango in the evening and visit to Thermae / Mixx or Shock 39.

Day 3: Session at EZ1 in afternoon followed by Eden in evening and NEP at night either in Hot Lips / Angelwitch / Mandarin.

Day 4: A massage session w BJ at one of the 7/1 alley in evening followed by visit to Soi cowboy in night either in Baccara / Crazy House / Suzie Wong.

Day 5: Session at Poseidon or Amsterdam. Leave for Singapore in evening.

I have booked stay in Sukhumvit. I would request seniors and other members to provide their valuable inputs.

Thank you in advance.

[Goatscrot]

Bargirls may be a different breed. Most Thai girls that I have known closely (non bar girls) really hate liars. Truth is important to them, but not to all Thais. I have even known some apparently truthful bargirls that have little to hide from me, but have plenty to hide from others. One long time bargirl, these days only appears occasionally, tells me she has a Tom girlfriend not in Bangkok and shows me the picture, but then tells me the Tom doesn't know she sometimes works in the bar and especially doesn't know she fucks guys. I try to always put myself in a position where there is little reason to tell me bullshit.

Obviously girls that work the sex industry, need to lie to others about what they do, as it is generally not socially acceptable. So really the justification behind lies is important, and many things that a person does not know about me, will not hurt them.

Girls I have been close to in recent years typically clam up and say nothing rather than tell outright lies. I have known some really shocking liars as well.

I imagine that while we can be truthful on this forum, hiding behind a pseudonym, very few of us will be fully truthful about our mongering in real life.

In my opinion, everyone lies if they really have to. I don't fully understand why someone having told a minor or diplomatic lie should be reviled. The people that irritate me are the ones who lie needlessly, or what we might call bullshit artists or even con artists. Thais that recommend certain things where they get commission are of course a type of con artist. Even relatively truthful Thais have been known to do this and not think it is so bad.

Thai society is indeed full of liars, especially including Politicians, Police, etc.I have found that most Thais purport to be truthful and to hate "liars. " I think this is all part of keeping and saving face. Of course this is a double edged sword. They will also give you the benefit of the doubt in many situations.

I think most Thai gals "expect" Farangs to be "honest" with them. Most western dudes I know promise gals the world right off the bat. As I have said before, they stick it in and in 6 seconds they are in love. They promise fidelity and then they end up with a gal who follows their every move. Never really had that experience myself. My gals have always left me alone. Never been "up in my shit" at all. Of course I am not up in theirs either.

[Gm698]

Gratzi!

Your best best for decent looking at the oilies is either Snow White or Lilly. There are some new gals at Lilly that might fit the bill.Helpful insight Goatscrot. Snow White is definitely on the short list but I don't see Lilly massage on google, any info appreciated! Also do you think 101 Premier is worth a look? I know even after the best made plans it usually ends up being blind luck.

[ActionOriented]

I am visiting Bangkok from 1st Nov to 5th Nov. Then flying to Singapore.

Basis of RTFF and other inputs I have planned as under to experience a mix of FL, Oily / Soapy, BJ and Go-Go scene being my first visit to BKK.

Day 1: Land in afternoon. Session at Nataree in evening and later in the night at Spasso / CM2.

Day 2: BJ session at kasalong / Dr BJ in afternoon followed by session at Mango in the evening and visit to Thermae / Mixx or Shock 39.

Day 3: Session at EZ1 in afternoon followed by Eden in evening and NEP at night either in Hot Lips / Angelwitch / Mandarin.

Day 4: A massage session w BJ at one of the 7/1 alley in evening followed by visit to Soi cowboy in night either in Baccara / Crazy House / Suzie Wong.

Day 5: Session at Poseidon or Amsterdam. Leave for Singapore in evening.

That's an action packed schedule, if you are up for it, they all sound good. However, just go with the flow, since you are in the general Sukh area you can move from one place to another easily without having to consult an itinerary. Among the BJ bars, other than those listed you could also look into Som's Haven. For PSE Oilies, morning staff IME at EZ1 isn't great (unless you will be booking a particular girl in advance), alternatively you can look into Mango, Tulip, Snow White etc. , which are around the corner. After a PSE Oily, wonder if you will want to go to another extreme joint like Eden, but no harm in trying.

[Syzygies]

Basis of RTFF and other inputs I have planned as under to experience a mix of FL, Oily / Soapy, BJ and Go-Go scene being my first visit to BKK.
I would request seniors and other members to provide their valuable inputs.
I think like another poster you should consider to go with the flow more. You might walk into some joint, spend 10 minutes, really hate it, and move on.

By all means create a list of places and where they are located understand where they are roughly on a Map and how you will get there by sky train, underground, taxi, motorbike taxi, or walk, expected "class" level of the place, etc. Then tick them off after you look in each. Choose depending on your mood on the day.

Maybe create a Google Map with pins for places that might be worth looking at. I guess you won't go very far afield that often.

I would suggest you will want to look at many things in first day or 2 but not partake in everything looked at.

When some things really appeal, you will want to return another time. Some idiots met their future wife on first day in Thailand. LOL.

Its easy for me because I already know where everything is, how best to get there, etc. , but I still don't know which thing will be good on the day. I often check out several places in succession before deciding which place has girls that appeal on the day.

As example, both Nana Plaza and Cowboy have many bars I could look in on same day, but I will not check them all. Sukhumvit Soi 24/1 has many massage places, so I can check several in fairly quick time.

Finally, be aware that that tall pretty girl with exaggerated walk and movements, may have a deep voice or not, may have a dick or not. Watch out for suspicious looking girls. Nana Plaza has huge numbers of Ladyboys.

Also beware of people trying to be too helpful. There are a lot of scams. Don't take Tuk Tuks. For tourists only and will be ripped off. Don't take a parked taxi. Take one passing by.

Speak English very slowly and no complex words. Walk away from trouble. Shower at least twice per day. Dress casual but well. Thais like clean and tidy. You can't get into Mixx unless you wear shoes and socks, shirt with collar etc.

[Wolvenvacht]

I am visiting Bangkok from 1st Nov to 5th Nov. Then flying to Singapore.

Basis of RTFF and other inputs I have planned as under to experience a mix of FL, Oily / Soapy, BJ and Go-Go scene being my first visit to BKK.

Day 1: Land in afternoon. Session at Nataree in evening and later in the night at Spasso / CM2.

Day 2: BJ session at kasalong / Dr BJ in afternoon followed by session at Mango in the evening and visit to Thermae / Mixx or Shock 39.

Day 3: Session at EZ1 in afternoon followed by Eden in evening and NEP at night either in Hot Lips / Angelwitch / Mandarin.

Day 4: A massage session w BJ at one of the 7/1 alley in evening followed by visit to Soi cowboy in night either in Baccara / Crazy House / Suzie Wong.

Day 5: Session at Poseidon or Amsterdam. Leave for Singapore in evening.

I have booked stay in Sukhumvit. I would request seniors and other members to provide their valuable inputs.

Thank you in advance.That's a very comprehensive program. I'd call it "See all of naughty Bangkok in 5 days". Obviously you have done your homework remarkably well. My congratulations to you. It is refreshing to see someone really preparing his trip, rather than demanding the information is provided to them on a silver platter.

I have but one general comment: with this program you will either fall in love before the second day is over or by then you will be so tired and worn out that you will want to sleep for the next three days.

Take it easy dude! This is Thailand where the best laid plans don't survive contact with reality. Know the lay of the land and let the vibe of the place get into you.

I am a fairly regular visitor to Thailand for many years and I have yet to visit most of the places you list in your schedule, but that probably says more about me and my age. For all I know you are a young stud and have a magic dick.

[Syzygies]

Day 2: BJ session at kasalong / Dr BJ in afternoon followed by session at Mango in the evening and visit to Thermae / Mixx or Shock 39.

Day 3: Session at EZ1 in afternoon followed by Eden in evening and NEP at night either in Hot Lips / Angelwitch / Mandarin.

Day 4: A massage session w BJ at one of the 7/1 alley in evening followed by visit to Soi cowboy in night either in Baccara / Crazy House / Suzie Wong.

Day 5: Session at Poseidon or Amsterdam. Leave for Singapore in evening.
Some additional comments.

Once my Japanese friend, tried Thermae, HE liked little else. However if you are not Japanese, it could be a waste of time, other than a quick look to see what happens.

If at Nana Plaza, you should look in Rainbow 4 as it has the most girls and is most popular I guess.

If looking in Poseidon, may as well look in Copa Cabana also as its very close by 3 minutes walk in the side Soi.

Mango and EZ are right near each other in Soi 24. May as well look in both on same day although Mango is more porn star oriented of the two.

Some day have a look at Soi 24/1 Massage places including Lilly, Boss, etc. And check Snow White at Soi 26 very close.

[Syzygies]

A very quick glance in Crazy House last night. At that time girls were not fully naked. I guess it is currently varying from night to night and time to time depending on whether the Police are hanging around too close or not. 2 previous nights they were naked.

Other naked bars maybe similarly variable. e.g. Suzi Wong.

I really hate it when all the girls have bras on, even if there are no knickers under the semi-see-through short skirt. Seeing pussy is just not enough for me. LOL I like sleek naked curves.

[Somewhere15]

I am visiting Bangkok from 1st Nov to 5th Nov. Then flying to Singapore.

Basis of RTFF and other inputs I have planned as under to experience a mix of FL, Oily / Soapy, BJ and Go-Go scene being my first visit to BKK.

Day 1: Land in afternoon. Session at Nataree in evening and later in the night at Spasso / CM2.

Day 2: BJ session at kasalong / Dr BJ in afternoon followed by session at Mango in the evening and visit to Thermae / Mixx or Shock 39.

Day 3: Session at EZ1 in afternoon followed by Eden in evening and NEP at night either in Hot Lips / Angelwitch / Mandarin.

Day 4: A massage session w BJ at one of the 7/1 alley in evening followed by visit to Soi cowboy in night either in Baccara / Crazy House / Suzie Wong.

Day 5: Session at Poseidon or Amsterdam. Leave for Singapore in evening.

I have booked stay in Sukhumvit. I would request seniors and other members to provide their valuable inputs.

Thank you in advance.You can skip CM2 from your list. Already closed since beginning 2014. Spasso is still a good pick up place. You also can try Bangkok Beat Sukhumvite Soi 7/1. But take in mind that since the military took over all these bars close strickly at 2 AM. Enjoy.

[IllusionHeart]

That's an action packed schedule, if you are up for it, they all sound good. Thank you ActionOriented. Yes I guess I am up for it. Two years of FKK trips have help me build confidence and strength to do multiple sessions in short time. Need a lot of aqua and fresh orange juice in the breaks (smokes also help me relax. Nothing like one after a good session). Avoid drinking so as to not impair / delay my schedule and trust me I enjoy it this way. Not a rush job that I am trying to finish or achieve a record. Only thing that relaxes me is the jacuzzi / whirlpool which I won't get to enjoy as much in this part of the world in places I intent to visit. I had read your in your earlier report on Soms haven, included that as an option. Similarly will do a walk through with EZ and keep Mango, Tulip, Snow White as an option as well.

And yes I am going to hunt and buy those Sagami 0.01 or 0.02 before I start.


I think like another poster you should consider to go with the flow more. You might walk into some joint, spend 10 minutes, really hate it, and move on.
...........................................can't get into Mixx unless you wear shoes and socks, shirt with collar etc.Thank you Syzygies. All inputs taken. No tuk tuks. Avoid interaction with people overly friendly or trying to. Avoid parked taxi. My Singapore buddy might be joining me for 2/3 days hence that would help in company terms while going around. As suggested by all of you am going to be doing a lot of walk through and then decide. The itinerary was designed by me as a base. Will update basis of your and other members inputs. Since I plan to visit FL bars will be carrying few clothes and shoes for entry to the venue.


That's a very comprehensive program. I'd call it "See all of naughty Bangkok in 5 days". Obviously you have done your homework remarkably well. My congratulations to you. It is refreshing to see someone really preparing his trip, rather than demanding the information is provided to them on a silver platter......................... For all I know you are a young stud and have a magic dick.Thank you Wolvenvacht. My biggest fear is what you have mentioned. Either I fall in love with the city. Or I won't return soon. I am going to take it slow as I don't carry any other agenda to this city. Maybe a visit to Royal palace, Buddha temple, Lebua tower (etc but complete time is dedicated to relaxing myself and experiencing the best possible of Bangkok without stressing or exhausting myself. My benchmark currently is Germany. Singapore have not yet been able to experience well enough maybe once I fly back from Bangkok I have 4 days there to try the city all over again. Second chance in the city and then form an opinion.

I have just turned 40 and single. But when you are living in a conservative country like mine then one tends to build up attitude and stamina to enjoy on these small excursions throughout the year and release the bottled up energy.


Some additional comments.

Once my Japanese friend, tried Thermae, HE liked little else. However if you are not Japanese, it could be a waste of time, other than a quick look to see what happens. If at Nana Plaza, you should look in Rainbow 4 as it has the most girls and is most popular I guess.

Some day have a look at Soi 24/1 Massage places including Lilly, Boss, etc. And check Snow White at Soi 26 very close.Syzygies,

I belong to South Asia hence basis reading of earlier posts in the forum I would want to avoid Rainbow 4 so as to not spoil up my mood for the trip or evening in particular. Sometimes the best might not be for me. Is my thinking.

I have kept options for Thermae and will skip it as I am not Japanese.

I am still skeptical about the hotel hence am going to request inputs in the appropriate thread. And yes I will post all my experience from the trip as soon as I am back.

And thank you to all other seniors and members who help amateurs like me.

[IllusionHeart]

You can skip CM2 from your list. Already closed since beginning 2014. Spasso is still a good pick up place. You also can try Bangkok Beat Sukhumvite Soi 7/1. But take in mind that since the military took over all these bars close strickly at 2 AM. Enjoy.Thank you Somewhere15. I do plan to retire back to hotel latest by 1 am preferably. I have a list of options in FL places listed as under. However as pointed out by you my information might be slightly outdated.

Spasso.

MIXX.

Levels.

Thermae Bar.

Insanity disco (ex Insomnia).

Q Bar.

Spicy.

Shock 39.

Climax.

Swing.

Mai Peng.

Bossy.

I have planned 2 nights for FL bars hence request if you can help me identify places which I should visit for a better experience basis of current situation.

[Goatscrot]

Helpful insight Goatscrot. Snow White is definitely on the short list but I don't see Lilly massage on google, any info appreciated! Also do you think 101 Premier is worth a look? I know even after the best made plans it usually ends up being blind luck.Never been to Premier. At the bottom of the Snow website you can see the Lilly gals. Same owner.

[Member #4361]

Helpful insight Goatscrot. Snow White is definitely on the short list but I don't see Lilly massage on google, any info appreciated! Also do you think 101 Premier is worth a look? I know even after the best made plans it usually ends up being blind luck.I went there twice during my trip and would recommend it as a stop. The facility was nicer than most of the competing nearby oily places and the selection of girls is good. I tried a girl called Lilly and she was very nice. There was a better selection of girls than Snow White and the other places as well.

Scorcher.

[ActionOriented]

Only thing that relaxes me is the jacuzzi / whirlpool which I won't get to enjoy as much in this part of the world in places I intent to visit. I had read your in your earlier report on Soms haven, included that as an option. Similarly will do a walk through with EZ and keep Mango, Tulip, Snow White as an option as well.

And yes I am going to hunt and buy those Sagami 0.01 or 0.02 before I start.

You have done your research, that's good LOL. May be you can enjoy the jacuzzi (not sure about the whirlpool) in LOS, but probably from your hotel room. While I was in Pattaya, I booked rooms having jacuzzi's (some are reasonably priced - Fourteen Again, China Garden etc) and just bring the girls back to your room and make full use of the facilities on the premises. Also, while I do not know any such place in Bangkok, there is a place called M-club in Pattaya which has a pool and girls (not sure about a jacuzzi and sauna) all at the same place (there could be more such places but I am not aware). You can check this place out, if you are planning to extend your trip to cover Pattaya as well.

http://www.mclubpattaya.com/entertainment/

Also, if you are going to be spending time at the soapies, they will have extra large tubs where you will be washed thoroughly but you may not get to enjoy a jacuzzi unless you take their premium rooms (others may know more about this, I never bother with the higher priced rooms).

[IllusionHeart]

You have done your research, that's good LOL. May be you can enjoy the jacuzzi (not sure about the whirlpool) in LOS, but probably from your hotel room. While I was in Pattaya, I booked rooms having jacuzzi's (some are reasonably priced - Fourteen Again, China Garden etc) and just bring the girls back to your room and make full use of the facilities on the premises. Also, while I do not know any such place in Bangkok, there is a place called M-club in Pattaya which has a pool and girls (not sure about a jacuzzi and sauna) all at the same place (there could be more such places but I am not aware). You can check this place out, if you are planning to extend your trip to cover Pattaya as well.

http://www.mclubpattaya.com/entertainment/

Also, if you are going to be spending time at the soapies, they will have extra large tubs where you will be washed thoroughly but you may not get to enjoy a jacuzzi unless you take their premium rooms (others may know more about this, I never bother with the higher priced rooms).Thank you for the suggestions. Will be booking hotel accordingly to ensure at least they have a Jacuzzi in the spa.

Regarding Pattaya. Trip is scheduled but in April next year when I will do my 3rd trip to Singapore. Will be within 1 year span. Never exposed and didn't want to visit this side of the world after my 2 trips to Deutschland (FKKs) but then guess I am really falling in love with Singapore. The food, cleanliness and cozy nature of the city has simply got me and not to mentioned short distance travel to Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Indonesia (all in my future visit list) can be clubbed. I will be joined by two of my other similar interests gentlemen on that Pattaya trip. I will definitely be seeking inputs from all of you that time in Pattaya thread.

Also needed your inputs on whether I should stick to unite change or try super rich for the forex.

[ActionOriented]

Also needed your inputs on whether I should stick to unite change or try super rich for the forex.I don't want to write off Unite Change with only one attempt, you can make that your first stop and you can always have the rate on Superrich website handy on your phone. Also, I think the Phloen Chit / Chitlom station where you will get off also has a Superrich (this is orange) (there are two Superrich, I prefer this one - http://superrichthai.com/ (this is green)). Whichever shop offers the best rate, my suggestion would be go there (unless a few dollars doesn't make a difference). Also, Superrich is closed on Sunday and closes by 6 pm on Saturday, so plan accordingly. I wonder if there is a better money changer offering a better rate out there.

[ViajeroGringo]

I am visiting Bangkok from 1st Nov to 5th Nov. Then flying to Singapore.

Basis of RTFF and other inputs I have planned as under to experience a mix of FL, Oily / Soapy, BJ and Go-Go scene being my first visit to BKK.

Day 1: Land in afternoon. Session at Nataree in evening and later in the night at Spasso / CM2.

Day 2: BJ session at kasalong / Dr BJ in afternoon followed by session at Mango in the evening and visit to Thermae / Mixx or Shock 39.

Day 3: Session at EZ1 in afternoon followed by Eden in evening and NEP at night either in Hot Lips / Angelwitch / Mandarin.

Day 4: A massage session w BJ at one of the 7/1 alley in evening followed by visit to Soi cowboy in night either in Baccara / Crazy House / Suzie Wong.

Day 5: Session at Poseidon or Amsterdam. Leave for Singapore in evening.

I have booked stay in Sukhumvit. I would request seniors and other members to provide their valuable inputs.

Thank you in advance.Great itinerary; shows your research and devotion to topic. I tried to do similar trip a few weeks ago, but had to squeeze in work while there, so not so much time. But I'll be back in December, and get a weekend between trips. Maybe worth a run down to Pattaya?

I was very impressed with Nataree. It, too, was my first stop, and nothing else quite met that level of service. The next day I went to Dr. BJ, and was not impressed with any of the ladies. I wound up across the street at their sister shop, Dr. Nuru, and was very pleased with both massage and service. However, for the same price, there was much better selection at Nataree. I spent the next night wandering around NEP, but didn't make it to Soi Cowboy. Have to leave some things for the next trip.

[Syzygies]

I was very impressed with Nataree. It, too, was my first stop, and nothing else quite met that level of service. The next day I went to Dr. BJ, and was not impressed with any of the ladies. I wound up across the street at their sister shop, Dr. Nuru, and was very pleased with both massage and service. However, for the same price, there was much better selection at Nataree. I spent the next night wandering around NEP, but didn't make it to Soi Cowboy. You can be impressed on with the line up at a place. For service, it is the individual lady that matters. Then, if you get the combination of looks and super service, you got lucky. That is my experience.

[Luvpuss]

I arrived late last night from the UK. Been traveling for work a lot but finally made it back here. I met this lady at Insanity disco.

She is 32 and very sexy. She has a day job but I made her work extra hard last night.

Nothing has changed here I see. Still many pretty girls who will take care of you.

[Monster4057]

Hi guys,

I am on trip to Bangkok from 24th October to 26 October.

Please share important things I have to try.

Cheers

[IllusionHeart]

I don't want to write off Unite Change with only one attempt, you can make that your first stop and you can always have the rate on Superrich website handy on your phone. Also, I think the Phloen Chit / Chitlom station where you will get off also has a Superrich (this is orange) (there are two Superrich, I prefer this one - http://superrichthai.com/ (this is green)). Whichever shop offers the best rate, my suggestion would be go there (unless a few dollars doesn't make a difference). Also, Superrich is closed on Sunday and closes by 6 pm on Saturday, so plan accordingly. I wonder if there is a better money changer offering a better rate out there.Noted. I am going to land on Saturday so will go to unite change and check super rich on phone. Should be done before thy close.


Great itinerary; shows your research and devotion to topic. I tried to do similar trip a few weeks ago, but had to squeeze in work while there, so not so much time. But I'll be back in December, and get a weekend between trips. Maybe worth a run down to Pattaya?

I was very impressed with Nataree. It, too, was my first stop, and nothing else quite met that level of service. The next day I went to Dr. BJ, and was not impressed with any of the ladies. I wound up across the street at their sister shop, Dr. Nuru, and was very pleased with both massage and service. However, for the same price, there was much better selection at Nataree. I spent the next night wandering around NEP, but didn't make it to Soi Cowboy. Have to leave some things for the next trip.Thanks for the input ViajeroGringo. This was a base itinerary. Have added Som's haven as an alternative. Besides I am going to be doing a lot of walk through and would indulge only if I feel like. Not going to complete the act only as a formality or out of compulsion of having entered the joint.

[Margaya]

I am not impressed with Thermae and Biere garten. Both peak in the last evening and still have hopeless quality.

I am wondering if there is any point in visiting Gullivers during afternoon around 2/3 pm for freelancers?

Or is the quality same as in Beer Garten?

And I guess that's about it for freelancers during day time or am I missing some other venue?