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Without wishing to divert the board, the Chinese are well aware their citizens are behaving in a very bad way and creating perception images of the chinese.
They would like to be viewed as being sweet, and soft and happy and kind. Instead they are becoming well known for being incandescent with rage at the slightest mishap on many planes (latest being the well publicised scalding of Air Asia staff because a couple couldn't sit together). When the President went to Maldives he heard that Chinese vacationers were referred to a CN's. Not standing for Chinese, but for cup noodles and that hotels were refusing to send hot water to hotel rooms. They pay US $1000 per night but only eat cup noodles. There was a case of a kid scrawling his name in chinese characters on an ancient stone in Egypt. And many more cases.
They are aware that the world is slowly turning against their arrogant boorish "me first" type behaviour. Thank goodness they are still too afraid to drink a lot when they travel! LOL.You only need to visit Beijing (although I live here), but the Chinese are still country folk at best. I can't believe they spit everywhere, in the subway, inside public buildings, bathrooms, etc. When I go to HK, they look at the mainlanders with disdain, like the plague. And one only needs to look at how the government acts in the world, using fear and threats, but also mistaking fear by other countries as respect. I think it will take the Chinese ten plus years to realize that few if any countries actually respect them.
Most absurd thing I ever heard. Losing a job? More like losing a wife. But that goes for all nationalities.Most Americans don't even speak about mongering to their closest friends.
Most absurd thing I ever heard. Losing a job? More like losing a wife. But that goes for all nationalities.I do recall some Secret Service agents having a problem with their job. Other management or excutive level job positions might risk losing their jobs or at least future promtions.
A few other good places for Americans to go for legal PFP are Aruba, Curacao and St Maarten. All have legal brothels stocked with Colombian and Dominican girls. Campo Alegre in Curacao is this hemisphere's largest brothel, typically with around 150 chicas each with their own apartment.Thanks for the tip. Though I read on three islands in this area there are a total of 500 PFP gals. With Thailand it is closer 500 thousand, with many more options for the punter.
Of the pics on the Campo Alegre site I saw only one that was doable or white. The trip to these places is not short or cheap, but practicly to South America. Europeans would be way better off going to Thailand, as well as Asians, Africans, Oceanic nations & even many Canadians. IOW almost the entire world.
To chime in on the conversation I think a large percent of American mongers go to destinations in the Caribbean and south America. Places like the Dominican Republic, Costa Rica, Colombia, Brazil, Jamaica etc. The length of the flights are a big factor. The DR and Costa Rica are 3 hrs away from NY and the flights are considerably cheaper. Its easier to take a quick weekend getaway to those destinations than it is to go to Thailand, Cambodia, Jakarta etc.It makes no sense to fly to Siam from NYC for a weekend. You'ld be on airplanes and at airports almost the entire time. Even going to Cuba DR or CR etc travel would eat up quite a few hours. No doubt the vast majority of New York hobbyists would prefer to keep the cost for airfares & hotels, such as $400 to $500, in their pocket and use it to spend on local talent.
Without wishing to divert the board, the Chinese are well aware their citizens are behaving in a very bad way and creating perception images of the chinese.
They would like to be viewed as being sweet, and soft and happy and kind. Instead they are becoming well known for being incandescent with rage at the slightest mishap on many planes (latest being the well publicised scalding of Air Asia staff because a couple couldn't sit together). When the President went to Maldives he heard that Chinese vacationers were referred to a CN's. Not standing for Chinese, but for cup noodles and that hotels were refusing to send hot water to hotel rooms. They pay US $1000 per night but only eat cup noodles. There was a case of a kid scrawling his name in chinese characters on an ancient stone in Egypt. And many more cases.
They are aware that the world is slowly turning against their arrogant boorish "me first" type behaviour. Thank goodness they are still too afraid to drink a lot when they travel! LOL.Another Chinese American chiming in here. It's a shame that some of these nationals lack manners and common sense, but the guys that act like pricks overseas also act like pricks at home. China is going through a weird transitional phase right now and with sudden increases of wealth + the 1 child policy (higher chances of more spoiled brats), many nationals lack courtesy. With that said, the vast majority of Chinese people do not act this way, most rather avoid confrontation but since there are 1. 3 billion Chinese people, you're bound to find a couple in your lifetime. I myself haven't noticed any discrimination but I dread the day my family and I gets treated worse because of a few rotten apples. Oh well, what can you?
Here's a link to a very annoying site, full of ads and popups. Link didn't work & was titled most visited cities whereas the subject regards countries.
Note that Thailand is not in the top 10 destinations for Americans. Jamaica, Mexico and the DR are.The stat I've seen over 800,000 Americans visited LOS last year. I doubt the DR or Jamaica had that many, though Mexico would not surprise me as they border next to Uncle Sam. Yet Mexico doesn't have the rep as a sex tourist destination like LOS. In surveys for preferred PFP worldwide destinations Mexico hardly gets a mention. They'd be popular with their own kind in the Southern states who can speak the lingo & dare to go there, I suppose. But from the looks of the girls there, I think most Yankees would rather stay home, watch oceans full of stunning porn & jack off, LOL.
Where You Go
12-22-14, 21:07
Chinese New Year falls on February 19th this year. Is this a bad time to be in BKK? I could take a slight loss and postpone to March, please let me know what to expect if you have any idea.
Wolvenvacht
12-22-14, 21:45
I can't think of any Nationality that would be different. For a while my boss did not believe I had a Thai "wife" and daughter. LOL Had to show him some family pics. Ha Ha!For me it wasn't more difficult than putting a photo of my Thai GF on my office desk. Of course a new colleague came by and asked if she was my daughter. .
I do recall some Secret Service agents having a problem with their job. Other management or excutive level job positions might risk losing their jobs or at least future promtions.That's very true. The Secret Service agents were reprimanded over hiring a prostitute in Colombia and taking her to their hotel. See-level positions are always sensitive to any hint of moral turpitude. Latest one I can think of off the top of my head in the CEO (of HP who admitted to an improper relationship with a staff member.
Most absurd thing I ever heard. Losing a job? More like losing a wife. But that goes for all nationalities.You're apparently not up on the feminazi approach to prostitution. When I was a kid, the cops may bust a hooker and the john would skate. Then the lovely and gracious militant lesbians got control of some power and forced changes.
These days the cops like to set up sting operations. Yes, there are ways around them, but guys still get caught. The cops then arrest you, book you, and many localities publish your name and picture in the paper. Not only does the wife take you to the cleaners, your boss at that point has just cause to fire you. Moral turpitude, or whatever they call it, plus you're now a criminal. Oh, and many municipalities can confiscate your car (if you were using a car when busted) WITHOUT going to trial. If you're found not guilty you can ask for it back. Of course, by that time your life is pretty well ruined.
Now, a tip for the Yanks, according to Maxim, or a magazine like them. We all know that in the USA it's illegal to solicit a prostitute, or for one to solicit you. Sex in exchange for money is illegal. However, if I ask a girl to have sex on camera, and she signs a model release, it's suddenly no longer prostitution but "1st Amendment protected speech. " Go figure. So, if a lady asks if you want to party, tell her no. But, you're an amateur photographer and that you take pix of adult subjects for your private collection. You'd be happy to pay her to model for you. A ladycop won't go to your room with you. A real hooker normally won't have a problem. Once in the room, things can take their course. But you haven't offered sex for money, just money for 1st Amendment protected speech. Damn if our laws aren't fucked up.
On many nights I have been in go go's and I'll be the first to tell you " you whites guys all look the same " they come in already having a few too many talking loud as if they were getting ready for a Ruby game. I seen this regularly at Spanky's late, they come in and take those rubber things and start to whack the shit out of the girls. They smile but inside I'm thinking otherwise? I was once at Happy Go Go, sitting enjoying my drink two guys came in one of the guys look all pumped up on something. The both was sitting in front of me on the stools had a few girls having drinks with them. Next thing I know the pump up guy jumps up and gives his buddy a fucking headlock submission move on his friend head saying " I'll break you fucking neck " His friend had glasses on and look like Bill Gates? Didn't know what he said but he was no match for his friend. The girls jumped in and all the Thai waiters tried to break it up! The guy ended up paying for the broken glasses plus replacing my drink and a few others.
When I was leaving his buddy was outside sad and trying to fix his glasses. I felt sorry for him having a friend like that? A trip ruined! Sometimes I think people come to Pattaya like the college kids go on Spring Break?LBM,
I don't attend Spankies due to the loud whacking noises. Its fun only for some.
As for the fight, an isolated incident. Yes Australians can be Angry. The only fight I saw at a bar was in Crazy House. A Japanese or Korean threw a glass accross the bar. One or two slight injuries from flying glass. The culprit was not even ejected from the bar. Seems the behaviour was acceptable for a regular customer.
Most Americans don't even speak about mongering to their closest friends.Same as any other nationality, excepting buddies met at mongering locations.
FreebieFan
12-23-14, 01:51
You only need to visit Beijing (although I live here), but the Chinese are still country folk at best. I can't believe they spit everywhere, in the subway, inside public buildings, bathrooms, etc. When I go to HK, they look at the mainlanders with disdain, like the plague. And one only needs to look at how the government acts in the world, using fear and threats, but also mistaking fear by other countries as respect. I think it will take the Chinese ten plus years to realize that few if any countries actually respect them.I'm also in Beijing. Theres three things that bother me here (offset by some fair maidens who make life better! One is the endless spitting.
The other day I met someone who was new to China and said welcome to Spitland. He said what? I said well theres England, Newfoundland and now you are here in Spitland.
Then theres the smoking that goes on with total impunity. Every restaurant has no smoking signs and I've yet to see anyone follow it. "But sir, the guests will leave our restaurant if we don't let them smoke. ".
And the third is parking. These guys don't care at all. Park on pedestrian crossings, park on pavements, park in the middle of the road. No one cares.
Thank good ness for the maidens!
We all know the that the Chinese and that pub near Soi Nana called Bully's have a lot in common. .
You only need to visit Beijing (although I live here), but the Chinese are still country folk at best. I can't believe they spit everywhere, in the subway, inside public buildings, bathrooms, etc. When I go to HK, they look at the mainlanders with disdain, like the plague. And one only needs to look at how the government acts in the world, using fear and threats, but also mistaking fear by other countries as respect. I think it will take the Chinese ten plus years to realize that few if any countries actually respect them.Spitting has been a gross on-going problem with mainland Chinese when they go overseas. Now that they have money, they are visiting and / or moving overseas. I belong to a gym / health club and you can hear them spitting out big wads of spit in the shower. What's really gross is when they swim and spit out wads of spit into or near the floor drain. You give them a look of disdain and disgust, but they're clueless.
Sadly, I'm part Chinese so I get a lot flak for their behavior. It's as if I'm expected to personally change or correct it. A fellow gym member mentioned his disgust to me and I told him that he should be grateful that they're not pissing in the shower or the pool. They still might be doing it, but at least they're a bit more discreet.
Spitting has been a gross on-going problem with mainland Chinese when they go overseas. Now that they have money, they are visiting and / or moving overseas. I belong to a gym / health club and you can hear them spitting out big wads of spit in the shower. What's really gross is when they swim and spit out wads of spit into or near the floor drain. You give them a look of disdain and disgust, but they're clueless.
Sadly, I'm part Chinese so I get a lot flak for their behavior. It's as if I'm expected to personally change or correct it. A fellow gym member mentioned his disgust to me and I told him that he should be grateful that they're not pissing in the shower or the pool. They still might be doing it, but at least they're a bit more discreet.What's needed? A class required every term starting from year one in every mainland Chinese school. "How to behave like a human being. ".
Link didn't work & was titled most visited cities whereas the subject regards countries.
The stat I've seen over 800,000 Americans visited LOS last year. I doubt the DR or Jamaica had that many, though Mexico would not surprise me as they border next to Uncle Sam. Yet Mexico doesn't have the rep as a sex tourist destination like LOS. In surveys for preferred PFP worldwide destinations Mexico hardly gets a mention. They'd be popular with their own kind in the Southern states who can speak the lingo & dare to go there, I suppose. But from the looks of the girls there, I think most Yankees would rather stay home, watch oceans full of stunning porn & jack off, LOL.I would imagine that the majority of those 800 k were not single male sex tourists.
LittleBigMan
12-23-14, 02:51
LBM,
I don't attend Spankies due to the loud whacking noises. Its fun only for some.
As for the fight, an isolated incident. Yes Australians can be Angry. The only fight I saw at a bar was in Crazy House. A Japanese or Korean threw a glass accross the bar. One or two slight injuries from flying glass. The culprit was not even ejected from the bar. Seems the behaviour was acceptable for a regular customer.Correct certainly a isolated incident! Crazy house I'm surprise because as a tourist? They are really tame compare to when they are home. Although I have not visited in decades Japanese and Korean I can see this happening. The fight I saw they also didn't throw him out. Got him to settle down and he ended up staying. His friend? As noted I felt sorry for regardless of what was said between friends this should have never happen especially on holiday as a wing man?
I've seen two fights at Happy, a few years ago it was with two girls working there?
Chinese New Year falls on February 19th this year. Is this a bad time to be in BKK? I could take a slight loss and postpone to March, please let me know what to expect if you have any idea.Girls go home. You should stay home too.
A disturbing trend I'm noticing. A lot of flat-chested girls are being barfined. OK-not disturbing but funny.
FreebieFan
12-23-14, 03:48
What's needed? A class required every term starting from year one in every mainland Chinese school. "How to behave like a human being. ".Many years back, the Tawianese had to attend classes before they were allowed to travel. ACtually not just attend, but pass a test too.
The course content was " How to Behave" and centred on how not to draw adverse attention to yourself. Ie don't shout, don't queue jump don't spit, don't do anything to create a bad impression. Taiwanese are lovely people who talk softly, they will always stop at a crossing, and will queue in an orderly fashion.
Sadly, their compatriots don't know any of these, despite travelling and seeing normal people in normal countries behaving in " normal" ways. Many Chinese are quite normal and arent loud and pushy but theres a lot who only know "me first " and " I don't give a shit about you" mentality.
And the chickens are coming home to roost, as the world slowly turns on them, for their lack of manners and boorish behaviour. .
UltraHappy
12-23-14, 04:05
However, if I ask a girl to have sex on camera, and she signs a model release, it's suddenly no longer prostitution but "1st Amendment protected speech. " Go figure. In the States, this is true only in California due to a particular California supreme court case. That's why the adult film industry is entirely located within the state of California. Other states have either found otherwise, or folks haven't been brave enough to try their luck in other states.
So, I would definitely not ever suggest employing this strategy anywhere in the States outside of California.
Link didn't work & was titled most visited cities whereas the subject regards countries.
The stat I've seen over 800,000 Americans visited LOS last year. I doubt the DR or Jamaica had that many, though Mexico would not surprise me as they border next to Uncle Sam. Yet Mexico doesn't have the rep as a sex tourist destination like LOS. In surveys for preferred PFP worldwide destinations Mexico hardly gets a mention. They'd be popular with their own kind in the Southern states who can speak the lingo & dare to go there, I suppose. But from the looks of the girls there, I think most Yankees would rather stay home, watch oceans full of stunning porn & jack off, LOL.Pink I can only speak for Tijuana. This will surprise you but it is an excellent weekend PFP getaway. You won't get long time but you will get a pretty girl at a decent rate. And the pretty girls are available to all. Unlike the beauties of LOS who are more picky now about who they go with. Tijuana to be sure is no BKK or Pattaya but is a nice getaway for Southern Californians.
You're apparently not up on the feminazi approach to prostitution. When I was a kid, the cops may bust a hooker and the john would skate. Then the lovely and gracious militant lesbians got control of some power and forced changes.
Some of us were trying to discuss a somewhat Bangkok topic for once, an you want to go off on a USA (or Swedish) tangent again. USA topics get rather boring, especially for a lot of us who don't live there and don't wish to be there for mongering or any other reason. I wish we had an Expats thread here for you guys to discuss anything you like about the homeland.
I don't mind a little tangential stuff, but its getting to be just too high a percentage lately. This is supposed to be related to mongering or sex in Bangkok and "related" issues.
The forum does have USA Threads. I don't ever read them though.
LittleBigMan
12-23-14, 07:52
Some of us were trying to discuss a somewhat Bangkok topic for once, an you want to go off on a USA (or Swedish) tangent again. USA topics get rather boring, especially for a lot of us who don't live there and don't wish to be there for mongering or any other reason. I wish we had an Expats thread here for you guys to discuss anything you like about the homeland.
I don't mind a little tangential stuff, but its getting to be just too high a percentage lately. This is supposed to be related to mongering or sex in Bangkok and "related" issues.
The forum does have USA Threads. I don't ever read them though.There is a long history as to why people like myself do not use the Expat section. I always look at it as what goes around comes around this is just the history of the Website? Everything written is related in some way when you dig deep enough even if it is one or two words? If it isn't about the USA, it is about China, India, Europe, Aussie? That is why it is called " International " all this stuff related to what Bangkok has become? Dead and expensive? So everyone compares and talk about other countries which in turn should give everyone a hint it is still pretty damn good here no matter what is written or not written. I'm learning a lot.
Link didn't work & was titled most visited cities whereas the subject regards countries.
The stat I've seen over 800,000 Americans visited LOS last year. I doubt the DR or Jamaica had that many, though Mexico would not surprise me as they border next to Uncle Sam. Yet Mexico doesn't have the rep as a sex tourist destination like LOS. In surveys for preferred PFP worldwide destinations Mexico hardly gets a mention. They'd be popular with their own kind in the Southern states who can speak the lingo & dare to go there, I suppose. But from the looks of the girls there, I think most Yankees would rather stay home, watch oceans full of stunning porn & jack off, LOL.Had you read the article you would have seen that they took the countries most visited by Americans, and then winnowed out the most popular destinations within those countries. Thailand didn't make the top 10.
Look at this one:
http://www.travelweekly.com/Caribbean-Travel/Dominican-Republic-tops-in-Caribbean-tourism-and-growing/
DR had 1. 6 MILLION American tourists in 2013, roughly double your 800,000.
Jamaica had around 1. 3 MILLION Americans in 2012:
http://www.jtbonline.org/statistics/Annual%20Travel/Annual%20Travel%20Statistics%202012.pdf
Wikipedia shows American visits at just over 800,000 in 2013.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Thailand#Top_20_arrivals_by_nationality
That makes roughly 3 MILLION tourists in two Caribbean islands in one year. Thailand gets about 40% of that total. So. I think you're wrong about DR and Jamaica.
Dare to go to Mexico? Have you been there?
Some of us were trying to discuss a somewhat Bangkok topic for once, an you want to go off on a USA (or Swedish) tangent again. USA topics get rather boring, especially for a lot of us who don't live there and don't wish to be there for mongering or any other reason. I wish we had an Expats thread here for you guys to discuss anything you like about the homeland.
I don't mind a little tangential stuff, but its getting to be just too high a percentage lately. This is supposed to be related to mongering or sex in Bangkok and "related" issues.
The forum does have USA Threads. I don't ever read them though.I agree things are getting a bit ridiculous. And unfortunately when people start talking in a Bangkok thread about, for example, such tangential stuff as femnazies in the United States, or the spitting habits of Mainland Chinese, it only provokes the posting of a lot of irrelevant nonsense.
Pink I can only speak for Tijuana. This will surprise you but it is an excellent weekend PFP getaway. You won't get long time but you will get a pretty girl at a decent rate. And the pretty girls are available to all. Unlike the beauties of LOS who are more picky now about who they go with. Tijuana to be sure is no BKK or Pattaya but is a nice getaway for Southern Californians.That's one reason why if I ever move back to the states, San Diego would be a place I would consider. That and just amazing weather.
I would imagine that the majority of those 800 k were not single male sex tourists.That would be true of tourists to any country. Though I have seen reports of some planes to LOS being full of guys. It's mostly males in the arrivals lineups whenever I visit BKK. OTOH to DR apparently a large percentage of tourists arrive by cruise ship.
http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2014/1/2/50109/Dominican-Republic-gets-3-more-tourists-in-2013
Also the DR doesn't sound all that appealing:
"Dominican Republic. Exercise a high degree of caution.
"There is no nationwide advisory in effect for the Dominican Republic. However, you should exercise a high degree of caution due to a high crime rate.
"The official language of the Dominican Republic is Spanish.
"The hurricane season extends from June to the end of November.
"The Dominican Republic is located in an active seismic zone.
"Violent crime (including assault) against foreigners occasionally occurs. Petty crime (including pickpocketing) is common in urban areas. Thefts have been reported in resorts, including in hotel rooms and hotel room safes.
http://travel.gc.ca/destinations/dominican-republic
"Vaccinations: Suggested.
"Foreign tourists are often considered attractive targets for criminal activity and you should maintain a low profile to avoid becoming a victim of violence or crime.
"The dangers present in the Dominican Republic are similar to those of many major USA Cities. Criminals many have weapons and are likely to use them if they meet resistance. Visitors walking the streets should always be aware of their surroundings. Be wary of strangers, especially those who seek you out at celebrations or nightspots. Travel with a partner or in a group if possible.
"While pick pocketing and mugging are the most common crimes against tourists, reports of violence against both foreigners and locals are growing. Crime levels tend to rise during the Christmas season. You should take extra precautions when visiting the Dominican Republic between November and January.
"Credit card fraud is common in the Dominican Republic and has increased significantly in Santo Domingo and other resort areas of the country.
"Minimize the use of automated teller machines (ATMs), which are present throughout Santo Domingo and other major cities. ATM fraud schemes often result in cards becoming jammed within the ATM card reader. Once the card owner has concluded the card is irretrievable, the thieves extract the card for their use. Sophisticated "insiders" scams also occur, where criminals access and manipulate electronic data entered by legitimate card holders at properly functioning ATMs to steal funds from checking accounts.
"We strongly advise visitors to the Dominican Republic to take only hotel taxis or taxis operated by services whose cabs are arranged in advance by phone and can subsequently be identified and tracked.
http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/country/dominican-republic.html
"Latin American countries seem to have this comical fascination with white skin. The underclass is predominantly non-white while the newspapers, TV, professional and leadership positions are almost exclusively white. This is true, despite the fact that whites are overwhelmingly in the minority in this country. Remarkable.
"The typical Dominican almost looks like the typical African-American in the United States.
"It is as if you are in South Africa before Apartheid ended.
http://www.****************1999-archive/4940-treatment-african-americans-dr.html
"The DR is a safe country to travel, if you know how to travel and you speak a bit of spanish.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100504112102AACY0pV
"A sentinel surveillance study in 2006 reported that prevalence among prostitutes, or commercial sex workers (CSWs), is 4. 1 percent (2. 4 to 6. 5 percent, depending on location).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_the_Dominican_Republic
"Padilla examines the social and structural factors that contribute to the high rate of HIV and drug use within tourism zones in the Caribbean. ".
http://anthropology.msu.edu/anp204-us14/2014/08/08/hiv-in-the-dominican-republic/
"Reflecting global patterns, heterosexual sex is the main route of HIV transmission throughout the region and largely associated with commercial paid sex.
"HIV prevalence amongst sex workers varies across the region, from 1 percent in Cuba, up to 17 percent in Guyana.
"Migration between islands and countries is common, contributing to the spread of HIV and blurring the boundaries between different national epidemics.
http://www.avert.org/hiv-aids-caribbean.htm
That would be true of tourists to any country. Though I have seen reports of some planes to LOS being full of guys. It's mostly males in the arrivals lineups whenever I visit BKK. OTOH to DR apparently a large percentage of tourists arrive by cruise ship.
http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2014/1/2/50109/Dominican-Republic-gets-3-more-tourists-in-2013
Also the DR doesn't sound all that appealing:
"Dominican Republic. Exercise a high degree of caution.
"There is no nationwide advisory in effect for the Dominican Republic. However, you should exercise a high degree of caution due to a high crime rate.
"The official language of the Dominican Republic is Spanish.
"The hurricane season extends from June to the end of November.
"The Dominican Republic is located in an active seismic zone.
"Violent crime (including assault) against foreigners occasionally occurs. Petty crime (including pickpocketing) is common in urban areas. Thefts have been reported in resorts, including in hotel rooms and hotel room safes.
http://travel.gc.ca/destinations/dominican-republic
"Vaccinations: Suggested.
"Foreign tourists are often considered attractive targets for criminal activity and you should maintain a low profile to avoid becoming a victim of violence or crime.
"The dangers present in the Dominican Republic are similar to those of many major USA Cities. Criminals many have weapons and are likely to use them if they meet resistance. Visitors walking the streets should always be aware of their surroundings. Be wary of strangers, especially those who seek you out at celebrations or nightspots. Travel with a partner or in a group if possible...I have found places that are more edgy to be far better for gals overall. Why? Because there are fewer tourists there. Cheaper, more fun, and better attitudes. When they become safe and mainstream they are overrun and ruined. Cambo in the late 90's was great. I hear that Columbia when it was dangerous was wonderful as well. Beautiful gals for 10 bucks. Once they are safe and discovered it is over.
Most Americans don't even speak about mongering to their closest friends.That's because they are conservatives on the outside (for show). Where do you think is the easiest to pick up girls (don't mean P4 P) in America? Churches in the Bible belt.
As far as the Secret Agents go, they were on the President's security detail. Mongering puts them at serious security risk.
Wolvenvacht
12-23-14, 19:04
Now, a tip for the Yanks, according to Maxim, or a magazine like them. We all know that in the USA it's illegal to solicit a prostitute, or for one to solicit you. Sex in exchange for money is illegal. However, if I ask a girl to have sex on camera, and she signs a model release, it's suddenly no longer prostitution but "1st Amendment protected speech. " Go figure. So, if a lady asks if you want to party, tell her no. But, you're an amateur photographer and that you take pix of adult subjects for your private collection. You'd be happy to pay her to model for you. A ladycop won't go to your room with you. A real hooker normally won't have a problem. Once in the room, things can take their course. But you haven't offered sex for money, just money for 1st Amendment protected speech. Damn if our laws aren't fucked up.I remember the time when hookers in Las Vegas carried a copy of the Supreme Court Decision about the "1st Amendment Protected Speech" in their bags and their business cards and advertisements actually had a reference to that decision.
Canada is an option for those close to the northern border of the states, outcall is legal and there's even the occasional incall joints. Don't forget Brazil, that's a big draw for those living down south or near a major airport hub where airfare is cheaper and obtaining a visa to visit Brazil is easier. Europe is also a 'semi close' destination for many on the east coast. Again, if your at the right airport you can be in Europe in under 9 hours, compare that with a 25 hour travel time to reach Thailand.Since December 6, 2014 buying sex in Canada is illegal, the same as it is generally in the USA.
Certainly Europe is closer than LOS for some Americans, but on the whole pricey compared to third world dirt poor Thailand.
Thailand offers way more bang for the buck & better menu diversity without the attitudes.
LOS also gives one quick access to other SEA and Asian destinations full of PFP variety.
The forum does have USA Threads. I don't ever read them though.Where are these USA discussions. I've never seen them. Only Canada & Mexico are listed for North America. Though the BKK thread here seems best suited for comparisons between Bangkok, Thailand & "God's country".
I agree things are getting a bit ridiculous. And unfortunately when people start talking in a Bangkok thread about, for example, such tangential stuff as femnazies in the United States, or the spitting habits of Mainland Chinese, it only provokes the posting of a lot of irrelevant nonsense.Dude! Thread hijacking is a wonderful sport. You should try it. :D
Merry Christmas to all!
Hi,
I am planning to visit Thailand end of Feb. To first week of March.
Please suggest me place where I should stay for easy and good pick up of girls.
Thanks in advance.
..........Where are these USA discussions. I've never seen them. Only Canada & Mexico are listed for North America. .................Here you go.
http://usasexguide.info/forum/
Whats the reasoning behind 1000 baht barfines on Dec. 24? If its to keep the girls in the bar. Seems it works.
Christmas eve in Thai don't seem to be a big deal! I'm pretty sure Christmas day is no biggie either.
SirWilliam4
12-24-14, 18:45
Hi,
I am planning to visit Thailand end of Feb. To first week of March.
Please suggest me place where I should stay for easy and good pick up of girls.
Thanks in advance.As a newbie here, you are just asking for some not-so-nice responses to this post. Perhaps you could read back in this forum for a few months, get a basic idea of what is available, refine your questions, and then try posting again.
SW4.
Member #4698
12-24-14, 19:46
...Where I should stay for easy and good pick up of girls?
Sir William is right. Read back a few months in the BKK Hotel thread to see BM reviews on many of the best possibilities. There is no shortage of good accommodations in the Sukhumvit, BKK neighborhood at all price points. Once you settle into your digs, you will find yourself literally tripping over friendly girls looking to make a connection on any Suk Soi corner and more importantly you will be very close to some of the best venues in town. To start you off in the right direction; check out the Phachara Suites Hotel. A friend of mine likes this hotel a lot. I like the 1 bedroom suites at the Fraser, Admiral Premiere, Grand Mercure Asoke, and the Grande Center Point T21. Prices range from around 1900bt to 4800bt a night for suites at these hotels.
I have found places that are more edgy to be far better for gals overall. Why? Because there are fewer tourists there. Cheaper, more fun, and better attitudes. When they become safe and mainstream they are overrun and ruined. Cambo in the late 90's was great. I hear that Columbia when it was dangerous was wonderful as well. Beautiful gals for 10 bucks. Once they are safe and discovered it is over.IMO the reason the edgy more dangerous places offer more bang for the buck is that they tend to be poorer. They don't necessarily have less tourists, as AC & BKK amply prove. Though IME service & attitudes in BKK appear to improve during the low season when there are fewer tourists than in high season.
As for the Dominican Republic, I have no idea re how cheap, fun or the attitudes there. Never been in the Caribbean or researched PFP there. Though if you like white or Oriental babes, you will be disappointed.
Even generally expensive nations usually have cheap options, like the USA:
"So, hooked up with Shannon today. Went to her house in Pasadena about 12:20. Went down to the basement. Agreed on half / half for. 60. Laid down on an air mattress that was on the floor. She started me off with a really nice BBBJ. Got me nice and hard. I put some lube on and switch to some BBFS from behind. Hit it nice and hard doggy-style for several minutes which led to a nice pop inside. Paid her. Got dressed. Was out by 12:45. Will definitely repeat. Number for trade available to trusted seniors. ".
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3735-Streetwalker-Reports&
From a recent Baltimore streetwalker report.
Hi,
I am planning to visit Thailand end of Feb. To first week of March.
Please suggest me place where I should stay for easy and good pick up of girls.
Thanks in advance.I was there last may and I think the best place to stay is around the Nana Hotel. Though I didn't stay there because I felt it was not a good deal. 1500 baht a night and it seemed a bit shabby, you cannot beat the location. Walk outside and there are 20+ sw at the street. Cross the street and the Nana strip go go's, walk a few blocks. Ambassador disco w FLs lots of them though way over priced. Also easy access to public train system. I also liked all the street vendors on the main road that passes by the Nana. Can't remember the name. If you are on the cheap as you pass the Nana (on the right) about 100 m on the right there is a 7_11 and a road / alley to the left. The first hotel down the alley on the right is nice / clean / modern small, no windows but 600 baht a night. I stayed there, a bit of a cave, but I only used it to sleep and take girls to do. They also do st for 300 baht. At the end of the alley there is also a hostel 100 baht a night, bunk beds with lockable drawer, bring own lock or buy cheap one. Not conclusive to bringing girls back. I too will be in LOS at the end of Feb. For 10 days but I will only spend a night in Bangkok and head to Pattaya for most of the trip. I feel it is much better place for girls and better atmosphere. If you want to meet up and go hunting, let me know.
Fun Filled
12-25-14, 07:52
Can any one put some light on after hour clubs scene, Club like Bossy, Spicy, Mixx and Swing. Last time when I was there all of them were getting closed at 3. Not a single bar or club was allowed to be open after 3. Scene is still the same or there has been some changes in timing? I Miss those days when you were allowed to party till 5 in morning in after hours clubs. I am planning a short trip in Feb so any kind of update will be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance and wish everyone Merry Christmas.
Wolvenvacht
12-25-14, 09:45
Hi,
I am planning to visit Thailand end of Feb. To first week of March.
Please suggest me place where I should stay for easy and good pick up of girls.
Thanks in advance.The whole of Bangkok is only a short taxi-ride or trip on the BTS away from Nana or Soi Cowboy, so any hotel in Central Bangkok would be OK.
But if you want to be really close to where the action is, then choose a hotel near Nana or Soi Cowboy, in other words somewhere near the lower part of Sukhumvit Road. Go to a website such as htttp:/www.booking.com, tick the "Sukhumvit" box, choose the map and zoom in on the western part of Sulhumvit Road. There are scores of hotels to choose from, depending on your budget and style.
Of course you also want to to go through a few weeks (months?) of reports here on the forum to get more detailed advice.
Personally I favour Citypoint Hotel (http://citypointhotel.com/) for a shorter stay and Citadines 23 (http://www.citadines.com/en/thailand/bangkok/sukhumvit23.html) for a longer stay.
IMO the reason the edgy more dangerous places offer more bang for the buck is that they tend to be poorer. They don't necessarily have less tourists, as AC & BKK amply prove. Though IME service & attitudes in BKK appear to improve during the low season when there are fewer tourists than in high season.
As for the Dominican Republic, I have no idea re how cheap, fun or the attitudes there. Never been in the Caribbean or researched PFP there. Though if you like white or Oriental babes, you will be disappointed.
Even generally expensive nations usually have cheap options, like the USA:
"So, hooked up with Shannon today. Went to her house in Pasadena about 12:20. Went down to the basement. Agreed on half / half for. 60. Laid down on an air mattress that was on the floor. She started me off with a really nice BBBJ. Got me nice and hard. I put some lube on and switch to some BBFS from behind. Hit it nice and hard doggy-style for several minutes which led to a nice pop inside. Paid her. Got dressed. Was out by 12:45. Will definitely repeat. Number for trade available to trusted seniors. ".
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3735-Streetwalker-Reports&
From a recent Baltimore streetwalker report.AC and BKK are far from edgy. I would say BKK used to be a bit edgy, but now, not at all. Edgy was Cambo in the 90's. And Columbia in in the late 90's early '00's. Yes, danger is a factor. Once a place is considered "safe" and on the radar, there will be folks going there, unless there is really nothing for tourists to see there. The later is why Jakarta is still such a great place for mongering. Unless I had a job there I would not choose to live there, as there is not a lot to do. But for gals at all price levels, it is hard to beat.
To all my friends who post in the Thailand forums, all the best for a great Mongermas. Go out there and find your Mary Magdalene for the evening.
Visited Crazy House last night and it was full. But I have never understood the "hype" of this bar. The girls are mostly average, even though there are some stunning girls there. But in my opinion the mamasans are too pushy and there is a lack of good atmosphere in this bar. Temperature is too cold so most girls complain about this all the time.
SNIP
I concur. With the addition that the music is extremely loud. I had to get out of there after 45 minutes because I was seriously afraid of hearling loss.
I went there around 9 PM yesterday and since it was Christmas Eve I expected the place to be packed. But to my surprise it wasn't. It was only filled for approximately 2/3 and the second floor wasn't even in use.
I did understand the hype of this bar because the line up was often wonderful and most of the girls dance nude and often sit with you nude as well. But yesterday the line up was the worst I have ever seen there. Only a few lookers.
Maybe (and I want to emphasize that this is just a theory!) they have lost their best girls to other agogo's where they don't have to dance nude all the time and sit nude with the customers. I can imagine that a lot of girls don't like that very much especially if customers have their hands all over them almost right away.
And the 'big mamasan' in particular is not a very nice person so she might scare away some girls as well. But again, this is just a theory.
So I left the place around 10 PM and walked back to my hotel in Soi 4 in the hope to 'catch' a nice SW. And I did. At one of the bus stops along Sukhumvit I spotted a cute young girl who could very well be a WG. Just to be sure I asked her if she was waiting for the bus but she shook her head. She didn't say anything and with some hand gestures she made clear to me that she was mute! Not deaf mute as I initially thought but only mute.
Then she showed me a small piece of paper that said something like "Sexy girl for you, 1 hour 1500 Bath". She seemed to be a very nice girl and when I had negotioted the price down to 1000 Bath I took her to my hotel.
Communicating wasn't easy but we managed by typing 'messages' on my phone and the use of Google Translate (her English was basic).
She was really lovely and although she didn't want to give a BJ which was a bit of a disappointment I had a good time with her. She had a beautifull little body (no kids) and a nicely trimmed pussy that felt great. It just had the right combination of tightness, wetness and smoothness.
God I love the gems you find on the streets every now and then!
I concur. With the addition that the music is extremely loud. I had to get out of there after 45 minutes because I was seriously afraid of hearling loss.
I went there around 9 PM yesterday and since it was Christmas Eve I expected the place to be packed. But to my surprise it wasn't. It was only filled for approximately 2/3 and the second floor wasn't even in use.
I did understand the hype of this bar because the line up was often wonderful and most of the girls dance nude and often sit with you nude as well. But yesterday the line up was the worst I have ever seen there. Only a few lookers.
You have to be careful about not sitting right at a speaker and also sit to avoid the direct line of air conditioners. This is not easy if bar is very full.
I noticed the line up is quite variable. 1 reason is some of best girls are not working daily but only on like Friday, Saturday. Some seem to be free lance and turn up when they feel like it. Another issue is better girls getting barfined very early. The line up has dropped off from earlier standard. They are starting to take to many ordinary type of girls. Most stunning girl ever Nut is gone a few months. Another hot girl doesn't take clothes off any more.
What's more many girls have been getting nose jobs and spoiling their appearance IMHO.
One day I attended recently I noticed a predominance of Farangs rather than Japanese. This seemed strange. My interest in this bar has certainly dropped off with the decline of beauty and increase in nose jobs. I suppose still a few cuties.
All bargirls I really think are both worthwhile and very good looking are elsewhere at the moment.
I do see too much high pressure sell with new customers. Mamasans know to leave me alone though.
JesseJames
12-25-14, 14:51
I concur. With the addition that the music is extremely loud. I had to get out of there after 45 minutes because I was seriously afraid of hearling loss.
I went there around 9 PM yesterday and since it was Christmas Eve I expected the place to be packed. But to my surprise it wasn't. It was only filled for approximately 2/3 and the second floor wasn't even in use.
I did understand the hype of this bar because the line up was often wonderful and most of the girls dance nude and often sit with you nude as well. But yesterday the line up was the worst I have ever seen there. Only a few lookers.
Maybe (and I want to emphasize that this is just a theory!) they have lost their best girls to other agogo's where they don't have to dance nude all the time and sit nude with the customers. I can imagine that a lot of girls don't like that very much especially if customers have their hands all over them almost right away.
And the 'big mamasan' in particular is not a very nice person so she might scare away some girls as well. But again, this is just a theory.
So I left the place around 10 PM and walked back to my hotel in Soi 4 in the hope to 'catch' a nice SW. And I did. At one of the bus stops along Sukhumvit I spotted a cute young girl who could very well be a WG. Just to be sure I asked her if she was waiting for the bus but she shook her head. She didn't say anything and with some hand gestures she made clear to me that she was mute! Not deaf mute as I initially thought but only mute.
Then she showed me a small piece of paper that said something like "Sexy girl for you, 1 hour 1500 Bath". She seemed to be a very nice girl and when I had negotioted the price down to 1000 Bath I took her to my hotel.
Communicating wasn't easy but we managed by typing 'messages' on my phone and the use of Google Translate (her English was basic).
She was really lovely and although she didn't want to give a BJ which was a bit of a disappointment I had a good time with her. She had a beautifull little body (no kids) and a nicely trimmed pussy that felt great. It just had the right combination of tightness, wetness and smoothness.
God I love the gems you find on the streets every now and then!I picked that chick up, with her notes, in front of nana parking lot. I told her "you give good smoke" I took her to Nanaplaza short time room. She didn't want to BJ. I started to put on my clothes and she changed her mind and opened her mouth. Avoid her she's some kind of pyscho *****.
Asian Geek
12-25-14, 15:13
Merry Christmas folks. Hoe you are having fun in LOS.
I often travel in Asia, but LOS has benn off my itinerary for long and still continues to be. This time.
, I have 4-5 hours layover at airport. I read thru that there is a massage shop at the airport for clean massage. Is there anything else Possible in this short time period you know what I mean suggestions would be greatly appreciated here on thru the private chat.
AG.
The whole of Bangkok is only a short taxi-ride or trip on the BTS away from Nana or Soi Cowboy, so any hotel in Central Bangkok would be OK..
I was there last may and I think the best place to stay is around the Nana Hotel. Though I didn't stay there because I felt it was not a good deal. Thanks a lot Wolvenvacht, AmaBondSx. I am planning to stay Nana hotel opposite to Nana entertainment plaza.
AmaBondSx, I am staying in Bangkok 28 Feb. -3 Mar. We can meet if your stay time match with mine.
As a newbie here, you are just asking for some not-so-nice responses to this post. Perhaps you could read back in this forum for a few months, get a basic idea of what is available, refine your questions, and then try posting again.
SW4.
Sir William is right. Read back...Thank you sir for the suggestions. For now I have decided on the hotels based on the post and other blog / review.
I picked that chick up, with her notes, in front of nana parking lot. I told her "you give good smoke" I took her to Nanaplaza short time room. She didn't want to BJ. I started to put on my clothes and she changed her mind and opened her mouth. Avoid her she's some kind of pyscho *****.I didn't get the impression she was a psycho but I'll keep it in mind when I meet her again. The only 'strange' thing I noticed were some weird translations from Thai into English of some of the lines she entered in Google Translate. But I blame that on Google Translate for the time being, LOL.
By the way, I got her mobile number and she popped up in Line when the app synchronized with my phone's contacts. Her profile shows a picture of her and a Thai man who could very well be her boy friend. I wonder if he knows about her activities, LOL!
Merry Christmas folks. Hoe you are having fun in LOS.
I often travel in Asia, but LOS has benn off my itinerary for long and still continues to be. This time.
, I have 4-5 hours layover at airport. I read thru that there is a massage shop at the airport for clean massage. Is there anything else Possible in this short time period you know what I mean suggestions would be greatly appreciated here on thru the private chat.
AG.I doubt you have enough time as you need to consider at least two hours getting out of immigration / customs and getting back an hour before departure time.
Merry Christmas folks. Hoe you are having fun in LOS.
I often travel in Asia, but LOS has benn off my itinerary for long and still continues to be. This time.
, I have 4-5 hours layover at airport. I read thru that there is a massage shop at the airport for clean massage. Is there anything else Possible in this short time period you know what I mean suggestions would be greatly appreciated here on thru the private chat.
AG.With the new airport railway link you can be at Nana Plaza within approximately 50 to 60 minutes. A taxi might be faster depending on the time of day and the traffic but is more expensive.
If you want to take the train go to the basement of the airport. Currently the express line is out of order and only the commuter line is running, 3 times per hour. It takes 30 minutes to Phaya Thai station and it costs a whopping 45 Bath. At Phaya Thai you can take the Sky Train to Nana which takes about 10 minutes.
AC and BKK are far from edgy. I would say BKK used to be a bit edgy, but now, not at all. Edgy was Cambo in the 90's. And Columbia in in the late 90's early '00's. Yes, danger is a factor. Once a place is considered "safe" and on the radar, there will be folks going there, unless there is really nothing for tourists to see there. The later is why Jakarta is still such a great place for mongering. Unless I had a job there I would not choose to live there, as there is not a lot to do. But for gals at all price levels, it is hard to beat.IMO, relative to Singapore, it is generally significantly more dangerous in BKK, Pattaya, Phuket & Thailand as a whole. SG is on the average more expensive, though it's still easy to get laid there for the same prices as NEP gogos or street walkers around NEP in BKK.
Relative to BKK I'd opine that DR and AC are way more risky to visit. The difference in safety between BKK & SG is about equal to that between BKK and AC.
In Canada, which is almost as safe as SG, you can still get bargain prices for sex like in the PI & LOS, but you may have to pick up street girls who have addictions & work in relatively dangerous neighborhoods, or take ladies who are generally considered unattractive. But some of the ladies of the street IME can be quite stunning, especially if you like them slim, petite and white.
The question is, is it worth it to invest one's precious pooning baht in these high voltage dumps. And what precautions can be taken to not become another statistic. Having street smarts can help.
I'd consider Phnom Penh as more dangerous than Siam but less so than the PI. Also poorer than BKK. Yet I doubt the PFP prices, service or attitude is any better in PP than BKK.
Vietnam is less traveled to & poorer than BKK. Yet I doubt if the PFP prices, attitudes & service is in the same leaque as Thailand.
Hong Kong is a first world destination safer than LOS. HKG hotel costs are pricey but it has a thriving PFP scene comparable to SG including the bargains rates mentioned above. And, of course, drop dead gorgeous white PRC stunners.
Asian Geek
12-26-14, 00:59
Thanks. Will try options around airport.
I doubt you have enough time as you need to consider at least two hours getting out of immigration / customs and getting back an hour before departure time.
Asian Geek
12-26-14, 01:00
Thank a lot.
With the new airport railway link you can be at Nana Plaza within approximately 50 to 60 minutes. A taxi might be faster depending on the time of day and the traffic but is more expensive.
If you want to take the train go to the basement of the airport. Currently the express line is out of order and only the commuter line is running, 3 times per hour. It takes 30 minutes to Phaya Thai station and it costs a whopping 45 Bath. At Phaya Thai you can take the Sky Train to Nana which takes about 10 minutes.
Thanks a lot Wolvenvacht, AmaBondSx. I am planning to stay Nana hotel opposite to Nana entertainment plaza.
AmaBondSx, I am staying in Bangkok 28 Feb. -3 Mar. We can meet if your stay time match with mine.I am arriving 24 Feb, leaving 8 Mar. Only planning on spending the night in Bangkok unless have a very good time. Will get on bus to Pattaya 25 Mar. Last time I went (from Pattaya to Airport) on bus it was 180 baht. If any one can tell me where to get bus back to Pattaya relative to Nana Hotel, it would be appreciated. Last time I took a Carolla "limo" from airport to Pattaya for 1000 baht and it was not better as the bus was more comfortable. Bang4444, I recommend you get down to Pattaya at least once in your life. If you do make it, we can meet in front of Alcatraz agogo and go hunting from there. Good luck!
Also, try not to pay more than 1000 baht for SW ST in Bangkok or Pattaya and 1500 baht for LT (unless she looks incredible). It seems to be the going rate. Post your adventures. Stay horny my friend.
I doubt you have enough time as you need to consider at least two hours getting out of immigration / customs and getting back an hour before departure time.In my experience two hours to get out of immigration / customs is a gross overestimate. At immigration the lines are not that long and rarely take more than fifteen minutes. If in a pinch one can purchase a pass to get through the expedited line (or arrive business class on Thai Air or some other carriers and it is free) and immigration then would take maybe five minutes at most. Baggage is usually delivered within about 20 or 30 minutes of arrival time, and customs consists of walking past some officers without stopping (unless they peg you as suspicious, which in about thirty trips they never have in my experience).
On the other hand, getting to the airport only one hour before departure may be cutting it a bit close, particularly if flying economy class on an airline that has long check-in lines.
Carpaccio18
12-26-14, 02:25
Merry Christmas folks. Hoe you are having fun in LOS.
I often travel in Asia, but LOS has benn off my itinerary for long and still continues to be. This time I have 4-5 hours layover at airport. I read thru that there is a massage shop at the airport for clean massage. Is there anything else Possible in this short time period you know what I mean suggestions would be greatly appreciated here on thru the private chat.
AGIf you got 5 hours for the action, its not much but possible still. Takes you about hour from touch down until you can be in Sukhumvit area. A bit faster if you're between fights and don't need to pick up you luggage. Need to spare around 1 hour to get thru security if you don't need checking either on a stopover. You will probably need a taxi from the airport.
Depending on time of day several options are possible. But midday you can go to Eden on Sukhumvit Soi 7/1 and get a 2-girl 90 minute session for about 4000 bath. With the time you appear to have this could be possible.
I am arriving 24 Feb, leaving 8 Mar. Only planning on spending the night in Bangkok unless have a very good time. Will get on bus to Pattaya 25 Mar. Last time I went (from Pattaya to Airport) on bus it was 180 baht. If any one can tell me where to get bus back to Pattaya relative to Nana Hotel, it would be appreciated. Last time I took a Carolla "limo" from airport to Pattaya for 1000 baht and it was not better as the bus was more comfortable. Bang4444, I recommend you get down to Pattaya at least once in your life. If you do make it, we can meet in front of Alcatraz agogo and go hunting from there. Good luck!
Also, try not to pay more than 1000 baht for SW ST in Bangkok or Pattaya and 1500 baht for LT (unless she looks incredible). It seems to be the going rate. Post your adventures. Stay horny my friend.Prices seem about right. You won't find incredible looker in Pattaya-its just a fact.
Anyways, the problem with silicone implants is it doesn't FIX the face. Silicone has got to be the greatest hoax perpetuated on prostitutes ever. Very rarely do I see a girl become popular with them.
I am arriving 24 Feb, leaving 8 Mar. Only planning on spending the night in Bangkok unless have a very good time. Will get on bus to Pattaya 25 Mar. Last time I went (from Pattaya to Airport) on bus it was 180 baht. If any one can tell me where to get bus back to Pattaya relative to Nana Hotel, it would be appreciated. Last time I took a Carolla "limo" from airport to Pattaya for 1000 baht and it was not better as the bus was more comfortable.I have done the Bangkok to Pattaya trip many times in both directions. IMO all things considered Bell Travel Service works the best. Door to door service, always in aircon, safe and professional. I think it runs about 345 baht these days. Google Bell Travel Service for the details.
SunLover.
A taxi might be faster depending on the time of day and the traffic but is more expensive..Certainly a taxi is "more expensive" but we talk about an overall cost of 10 euro or 12/13 US dollars at the worst. Each way.
Wait, there's a special arrivals hall for Business Class? Damn, I've travelled business class for years with Thai Airways through Bangkok and always get in with the regular crowd. LA Guy, where is this secret arrival immigration section for Business Class.
I always use the business class departure immigration and yes it's super quick, no more than 15 minutes from your car dropping you off to getting through to the biz lounge for Thai Airways.
If in a pinch one can purchase a pass to get through the expedited line (or arrive business class on Thai Air or some other carriers and it is free) and immigration then would take maybe five minutes at most. Baggage is usually delivered within about 20 or 30 minutes of arrival time, and customs consists of walking past some officers without stopping (unless they peg you as suspicious, which in about thirty trips they never have in my experience).
Wait, there's a special arrivals hall for Business Class? Damn, I've travelled business class for years with Thai Airways through Bangkok and always get in with the regular crowd. LA Guy, where is this secret arrival immigration section for Business Class.
I always use the business class departure immigration and yes it's super quick, no more than 15 minutes from your car dropping you off to getting through to the biz lounge for Thai Airways.Thai Airways used to give fast track coupons for business and first class passengers, but now all you need to use the fast track lane is your boarding pass (assuming you are flying business or first class). Because there are a couple of immigration areas, I get confused about exactly where the fast track lane is. In one case, it is maybe 50 meters beyond where you turn left into general immigration. It is a bit of a hole in the wall (I wouldn't go so far as to call it an arrival hall), but is clearly marked (and on the same side as general immigration). But I have also been in a situation where you simply turned right after entering general immigration and there is the fast track lane. I don't know whether this difference represents a change in their configuration, or differences in the configurations of the two immigration areas (there are two, correct?). One potential problem is if you ask someone who looks official where the fast track lane is (as I sometimes have had to do) the odds you will be correctly directed probably runs around 50 percent, maybe slightly more. It might be worth asking a flight attendant about this before landing.
It is strange how in the past Thai Airways handed out fast track coupons before landing, but now keep it a relative secret that you can use fast track by showing the boarding pass. Some other airlines, but not so many, give out fast track coupons, I think Malaysia Air may be one of them; Singapore another. To my knowledge though the only case in which the boarding pass alone suffices is Thai Airways.
Hope this helps.
Edit: In reading my original post I notice one thing that could be misinterpreted so let me now clarify. Once through the fast track immigration line, you are in the same baggage area all others are in. So, my comments about waiting maybe 20 minutes for baggage, and walking through customs without stopping, apply to everyone, not just business class passengers.
LittleBigMan
12-26-14, 06:56
The last 3 times I came back to Thailand, I used this method and I'm no V. I. P. First choice is your regular immigration line, if short I use that, if busy I take out my Thailand Driver License I. The. And use the Thai local line, and once tried it on the V. I. P line and nothing was said to me YET?
Question for experts on Thai visa.
I am scheduled to fly to Phuket via Bangkok.
Do I have to get visa on arrival at Bangkok (First port of arrival) or can get at Phuket too.
The reason the time available between two flights is 90 Minutes, in which I have to get off the plane, get visa on arrival, security and have to board next plane.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers!
My last night in Bangkok I had an interesting experience in Spankys in Nana Plaza. I was there with a girl I had barfined from Soi Cowboy. We did some barhopping and ended up at this particular bar were spanking is the "theme" but they also have a shower in there. In comes a bunch of guys in their twenties. Just regular guys having a good time. After a while one of them takes his clothes off and join the naked girl in the shower. The girl seems to be happy and she starts gyrating against him and work her magic. After some time she moves on to give the guy a blow job. The guy plays along and do not seem to be bothered even his member is fully erect. The girls on stage are cheering and even the audience seems to enjoy the show. It was the closest to a live show I ever saw in Bangkok. Does this happens in other bars? I have seen some explicit pussy licking at several bars in Pattaya butnever in Bangkok. Can any of the forum members fill in with similar experience from Bangkok? Everybody in the bar was happy and it was all for good fun, but what would happen if the couple continued to full sex? Would the bar allow it? The girl that was with me refused to look because she felt it was "over the top" even she does nude shows herself at her bar!
I Bang4444, I recommend you get down to Pattaya at least once in your life. If you do make it, we can meet in front of Alcatraz agogo and go hunting from there. Good luck!
Also, try not to pay more than 1000 baht for SW ST in Bangkok or Pattaya and 1500 baht for LT (unless she looks incredible). It seems to be the going rate. Post your adventures. Stay horny my friend.Thanks for the info AmaBondSx, I do have plan to visit Pattaya too in this trip.
I will take 1-2 day out from 28 Feb-3 Mar. For Pattaya.
After that I am going to Phuket for rest of 4 days, I heard of full moon party so planning to attend there.
Do you know mongering conditions in Phuket compare to Bangkok and Pattaya.
Pipe Layer99
12-26-14, 14:21
Question for experts on Thai visa.
I am scheduled to fly to Phuket via Bangkok.
Do I have to get visa on arrival at Bangkok (First port of arrival) or can get at Phuket too.
The reason the time available between two flights is 90 Minutes, in which I have to get off the plane, get visa on arrival, security and have to board next plane.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers!Good question. I would guess that you will be fine. To be sure, call your local or nearest Thai embassy and ask them.
Pipe Layer99
12-26-14, 14:36
I am arriving 24 Feb, leaving 8 Mar. Only planning on spending the night in Bangkok unless have a very good time. Will get on bus to Pattaya 25 Mar. Last time I went (from Pattaya to Airport) on bus it was 180 baht. If any one can tell me where to get bus back to Pattaya relative to Nana Hotel....Two choices, go to Ekamai bus station or back to the airport.
BTS Skytrain - Ekamai is just a few train stops (about 4 stops) from Nana. Very easy to get there. You can take the BTS or grab a cab depending on your baggage. Should only take about 10 minutes. The bus costs about 124-133 baht.
At the airport you can get the hourly bus to Jomtien. Leaves every hour on the hour. Non-stop and cost about the same price.
Ethan Hunt123
12-26-14, 14:51
Question for experts on Thai visa.
I am scheduled to fly to Phuket via Bangkok.
Do I have to get visa on arrival at Bangkok (First port of arrival) or can get at Phuket too.
The reason the time available between two flights is 90 Minutes, in which I have to get off the plane, get visa on arrival, security and have to board next plane.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers!You will have to pass immigration to get onto Phuket flight. I think there is a seperate queue for connecting flights so it shouldn't be a issue. Just keep all the documents / money etc ready and rush once your first flight lands.
Question for experts on Thai visa.
I am scheduled to fly to Phuket via Bangkok.
Do I have to get visa on arrival at Bangkok (First port of arrival) or can get at Phuket too.
The reason the time available between two flights is 90 Minutes, in which I have to get off the plane, get visa on arrival, security and have to board next plane.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers!You always clear immigration in BKK, it is customs you do at the final destination if your luggage has been checked through.
Depends on your nationality if you need VoA.
You will have to pass immigration to get onto Phuket flight. I think there is a seperate queue for connecting flights so it shouldn't be a issue. Just keep all the documents / money etc ready and rush once your first flight lands.That is correct. Immigration with direct connection to domestic departures after the security check.
Thai Airways used to give fast track coupons for business and first class passengers, but now all you need to use the fast track lane is your boarding pass (assuming you are flying business or first class). Because there are a couple of immigration areas, I get confused about exactly where the fast track lane is.One of the fast track lines is aside the Visa on Arrival, a sort of hidden access indeed. Depends from which wing you arrive BUTNT memory helps it might eve be in between the two main immigration halls. So you might always have to pass the access to one fo these. If you follow the signs Visa on arrival you will to fail.
Airlines now do seldom give the coupon so keep the business or first class tag of the boarding pass and show it. It suffices.
Asian Geek
12-26-14, 15:37
Thanks see. Let me try the "sprint" to city and back. .
If you got 5 hours for the action, its not much but possible still. Takes you about hour from touch down until you can be in Sukhumvit area. A bit faster if you're between fights and don't need to pick up you luggage. Need to spare around 1 hour to get thru security if you don't need checking either on a stopover. You will probably need a taxi from the airport.
Depending on time of day several options are possible. But midday you can go to Eden on Sukhumvit Soi 7/1 and get a 2-girl 90 minute session for about 4000 bath. With the time you appear to have this could be possible.
In my experience two hours to get out of immigration / customs is a gross overestimate. At immigration the lines are not that long and rarely take more than fifteen minutes. If in a pinch one can purchase a pass to get through the expedited line (or arrive business class on Thai Air or some other carriers and it is free) and immigration then would take maybe five minutes at most. Baggage is usually delivered within about 20 or 30 minutes of arrival time, and customs consists of walking past some officers without stopping (unless they peg you as suspicious, which in about thirty trips they never have in my experience).
On the other hand, getting to the airport only one hour before departure may be cutting it a bit close, particularly if flying economy class on an airline that has long check-in lines.I am sorry, but I meant 2 hrs total. You are right that on the return leg 1 HR. May be too tight. Depending on the flight arrival time, immigration can be anywhere between 15 minutes to an hour. I have had both experience. Anyway the bottom line is the person has 2-3 hrs to go to the city, have a good time and get back. IMHO, it's not worth it even if it is doable.
Thanks see. Let me try the "sprint" to city and back. .I do sometime the sprint run landing at 3 pm and taking off at midnight. Leaving town at 9/9. 30 pm airport bound with or without boarding pass alewady in my hands. I just allow some 30 minutes extra if I need to check in baggage as need to recollect at the baggage locker service where I left it on arrival.
Not needed if my bags have already been checked through from my origin airport to final destination.
Have to say that flying business class gives some time saving advantages.
Plenty of offers and plenty of options during those hours in town.
Anyway the bottom line is the person has 2-3 hrs to go to the city, have a good time and get back. IMHO, it's not worth it even if it is doable.Indeed 2-3 hrs is not worth and risky.
One of the fast track lines is aside the Visa on Arrival, a sort of hidden access indeed. Depends from which wing you arrive BUTNT memory helps it might eve be in between the two main immigration halls. So you might always have to pass the access to one fo these. If you follow the signs Visa on arrival you will to fail.
Airlines now do seldom give the coupon so keep the business or first class tag of the boarding pass and show it. It suffices.That does jog my memory about fast track being next to Visa on Arrival. Thanks for the info.
Regarding airlines other than Thai, are you saying if they do not give out the fast track coupon, business class passengers can use fast track by showing their boarding pass irrespective of which airline they flew in on? I guess there are two levels of answer to this (1) whether officially only certain airlines are allowed to have their business class passengers go through fast track, and (2) irrespective of what the official rule is, whether the immigration officers just let any business class passenger through. I had always thought this was something only passengers from particular airlines were allowed to use, and indeed I was told this by a couple of flight attendants from the supposedly excluded airlines, but if the actual practice is to let any business class passenger use fast track, that would be something worth knowing (as I don't always fly Thai Airways into Bangkok).
That does jog my memory about fast track being next to Visa on Arrival. Thanks for the info.
Regarding airlines other than Thai, are you saying if they do not give out the fast track coupon, business class passengers can use fast track by showing their boarding pass irrespective of which airline they flew in on? I guess there are two levels of answer to this (1) whether officially only certain airlines are allowed to have their business class passengers go through fast track, and (2) irrespective of what the official rule is, whether the immigration officers just let any business class passenger through. I had always thought this was something only passengers from particular airlines were allowed to use, and indeed I was told this by a couple of flight attendants from the supposedly excluded airlines, but if the actual practice is to let any business class passenger use fast track, that would be something worth knowing (as I don't always fly Thai Airways into Bangkok).I fly Thai Airways all the time, only occasionally I land with Emirates. Always on business class. If I don't get the voucher I show the boarding pass. Voluntary, kind of not giving them the option, as if I know my way. Was once asked for the coupon (shown the fast track one by the agent) and I have shown the boarding pass in a polite but assertive way.
There is seldom people on line, so even in the unlikely case of not being legitimate you are not doing any harm.
I would then say option 2 is the case.
Anyway the bottom line is the person has 2-3 hrs to go to the city, have a good time and get back. IMHO, it's not worth it even if it is doable.If someone wants to have fun in Thailand, have a proper stopover. I always stop in Bangkok for at least a day or 2 minimum, if flying in the general direction (which is 90% of the time). Can't see any reason to ever do otherwise. A very short stop is super dumb unless you have a completely different agenda.
I hate to ever fly more than a 11 hour stretch in one go anyway. Its possible, but why do it if it can be avoided?
Know your rights if a policeman stops you in Bangkok.
http://www.richardbarrow.com/2014/12/know-your-rights-if-a-policeman-stops-you-in-bangkok/
Does anybody know where to post stuff about BKK in gerenal?
Does anybody know where to post stuff about BKK in gerenal?The BKK or general threads would be 2 possibilities.
Papae Noel
12-28-14, 01:55
My last night in Bangkok I had an interesting experience in Spankys in Nana Plaza. I was there with a girl I had barfined from Soi Cowboy. We did some barhopping and ended up at this particular bar were spanking is the "theme" but they also have a shower in there. In comes a bunch of guys in their twenties. Just regular guys having a good time. After a while one of them takes his clothes off and join the naked girl in the shower. The girl seems to be happy and she starts gyrating against him and work her magic. After some time she moves on to give the guy a blow job. The guy plays along and do not seem to be bothered even his member is fully erect. The girls on stage are cheering and even the audience seems to enjoy the show. It was the closest to a live show I ever saw in Bangkok. Does this happens in other bars? I have seen some explicit pussy licking at several bars in Pattaya butnever in Bangkok. Can any of the forum members fill in with similar experience from Bangkok? Everybody in the bar was happy and it was all for good fun, but what would happen if the couple continued to full sex? Would the bar allow it? The girl that was with me refused to look because she felt it was "over the top" even she does nude shows herself at her bar!That is a nice show. I would hope that this girl got some nice tips not just from the guy and his group of buddies but from the other patrons as well.
I'd even leave a little tip for the mamasan.
Regarding airlines other than Thai, are you saying if they do not give out the fast track coupon, business class passengers can use fast track by showing their boarding pass irrespective of which airline they flew in on? I guess there are two levels of answer to this (1) whether officially only certain airlines are allowed to have their business class passengers go through fast track, and (2) irrespective of what the official rule is, whether the immigration officers just let any business class passenger through. I had always thought this was something only passengers from particular airlines were allowed to use, and indeed I was told this by a couple of flight attendants from the supposedly excluded airlines, but if the actual practice is to let any business class passenger use fast track, that would be something worth knowing (as I don't always fly Thai Airways into Bangkok).The correct answer is (1). Most legacy carriers (confirmed list: AF, BR, CX, EK, JL, KE, KL, LX, MH, NH, QF, QR, SQ, UA) give out priority lane cards to their business class passengers onboard; for a few lower priced ones (Austrian, Finnair and Turkish come to mind), their ground service rep at the end of the air bridge have them, but only hand them out on request. For the rest (DL, many regional carriers eg. VN, most Chinese ones, etc.), no fast track.
Only Thai Airways business class boarding passes qualify for fast track.
That said, I once had a rather enterprising seatmate who talked his way through it (directly with the immigration official); I tried the same without success; my Austrian business class boarding pass didn't help.
For first class, if you get a priority card on board, don't fill it out and keep it for next time as your escort will take you through the VIP lane without having to show the card. Actually, never fill out those cards; the immigration staff couldn't care less, and if the regular lanes are empty that allows you to keep it for when that upcoming flight in economy.
As for the fast track booths, there is a main area in the middle between the two normal immigration areas, but one can also use the 2nd booth on the rightmost of the normal areas (1st one is diplomats' lane, 3rd one families with small children and seniors, IIRC).
Member #4387
12-28-14, 04:56
Once again stopping through BKK on my way to the phils. Lately having done pretty much an all in regular girls routine in BKK I thought why not go back to old hunting grounds. Climax is almost where my BKK virginity was taken so my visit here yesterday brought back some great memories.
I like Climax as it is a easygoing place. You have the devided group of people from the obvious FL's to the girls joining in groups out to have fun. Punterwice you have the oldies and the young guys dressed in all kinds of ways. It has its charm. I find myself in the middle, not to young and not to old (no offence old guys ofcourse) and as usual decent dressed.
Took the taxi from the Aloft to Climax (2 people). A very short ride of maby 200+ mts but this makes the taxi driver get a 200 bht commision so I do this only to be nice gent. Was met by the as usual nice bouncers and they recogniced me so just popped in without paying any covers. On my way me and friend ordered 2 btls of spirits as we have learned 1 is not enough (not that we drink it all but it is nice icebreaker to invite girls over for a hicky). Took one table in the back away from the stage. Around midnight it was a nice girlie crowd present and we could see potential objects all around. After sharing some warstories me and my friend went into business and shortly after two spinners where locked to our table. We handed out the booze in most generous ways making the girls all horny and tipsy (maby not in this order). I took mine 26 yo for inspection making sure her abdominoes where strechmarked free (I have fobia for stretches). She was a 5"7, 5"8 ish with kurves, firm ass and a chineesethai look on her. Well dressed as she told me she came from some sort party with her company choosing to set foot in Climax on her way home. We made out a lot so we did not stay to long before walking back to the Aloft.
Back in room she did me a nice rimming session. She planted my dildo in my ass and we giggled about it. My GF back home also do this shit as in a punishment for me wanting to her ass so I am quite used to this by now (does not mean I am gay). This was also her request for me doing her a proper ass banging. I was as usual realy shitfaced so I banged her a bit and then I collapsed on the floor. As I write now we have had a morning bang me moving back into bed ofcourse. Waiting for my Willy to reload and I have another go at her. She is funny and friendly and I have decided she will get the usual 3 k LT compensation. What worries me is that she have allready told her sister she will spend the hole day with me without consulting me. Pretty cheeky if you ask me. I will create a white one to get away from this scenario.
Climax still cooking and alive (not surprised).
Anyone found any gun shooting ranges in Bangkok? I don't want to travel 2-3 hours north.
Wolvenvacht
12-28-14, 10:16
I have seen some explicit pussy licking at several bars in Pattaya butnever in Bangkok. Can any of the forum members fill in with similar experience from Bangkok?Pussy licking is part of the lesbian show at Suzi Wong in Soi Cowboy. And in that same bar, I did once lick a dancer's pussy on the stage.
In the booths (but still clear to see for all) you can go quite far with your girl.
Pussy licking is part of the lesbian show at Suzi Wong in Soi Cowboy. And in that same bar, I did once lick a dancer's pussy on the stage.
In the booths (but still clear to see for all) you can go quite far with your girl.What booths?
After some time she moves on to give the guy a blow job. The guy plays along and do not seem to be bothered even his member is fully erect. The girls on stage are cheering and even the audience seems to enjoy the show. It was the closest to a live show I ever saw in Bangkok. Does this happens in other bars? I have seen some explicit pussy licking at several bars in Pattaya butnever in Bangkok. Can any of the forum members fill in with similar experience from Bangkok? Everybody in the bar was happy and it was all for good fun, but what would happen if the couple continued to full sex? Would the bar allow it? The girl that was with me refused to look because she felt it was "over the top" even she does nude shows herself at her bar!Years ago Pat Pong bars used to have full sex shows. They were surprisingly boring for me. Maybe they still do. I did not attend for a few years. I prefer the lesbian shows at Suzi Wong with explicit pussy licking, which is far more erotic for me.
It may seem strange to you but not everyone likes to watch a blowjob. I am not interested to look at cocks, being sucked or otherwise, especially if they are very small ones LOL. It doesn't bother me to see guys naked but there is little turn on factor for me. It's ho hum. If watching porn, I would always skip or fast forward the BBBJ scene. I don't like Bukkake and don't like Spanking either. Each to their own.
Make your own live sex show is possible and I do that with multiple girls. You could find another guy too if you needed that to make your own orgy. There used to be live sex in the Star of Light bar in Patpong put on by customers (like me), but they may have stopped it under the new military rule. I was too claustrophobic to go fuck in the toilet. LOL So fucking in the bar used to happen. Unfortunately girls wanted it to be quick like just 15 minutes. Not enough for me really. I have also had BJs and licked pussy the bar in Star of Light and other BJ bars in the past. However maybe my exhibitionist tendancies are somewhat over. Many girls are less shy in private, or with only close friends watching.
20 years ago a visit to Kangaroo bar (upstairs) at lunchtime was a great way to have an orgy with multiple girls, even the girl behind the counter would come over and let you pull down her pants and play with her pussy. Lots of oral both ways and then eventually could go to the back room to fuck. One Kangaroo bar girl had natural D cups and quite reasonable looking, and I enjoyed both her pussy and tits a lot. Not sure why girls were shy about actual fucking. Maybe the Thai boys hanging around, that ring the bell for a customer arriving or touts outside, were supposed to be their boyfriends. Sometimes Thai boys were sleeping in the bar area. "Rose" was another. I became aware of Star of light many years later.
Wolvenvacht
12-28-14, 15:27
What booths?Indeed "Booth" is not the right word. I mean the benches with the narrow tables in front.
Baccarra is so disappointing. A top girl there would have trouble being a top girl at one of the bigger Rainbows!
Be is full of the kind of girls one would find at Suzie Wongs or Tilacs, Ok maybe not that bad-but you get the picture.
Know your rights if a policeman stops you in Bangkok.
http://www.richardbarrow.com/2014/12/know-your-rights-if-a-policeman-stops-you-in-bangkok/There has now been issued by the police a leaflet in English about your rights during police searches.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/787561-searching-foreigners-thonglor-police-leaflet-explaining-search-policy/
Best faces can be found at Rainbow 2. I saw this trend happening when the farang started to invade Rainbow 4. Rainbow 4 has very limited amount of Asian style girls now.
Some of the girls in are 2 are having way too much fun in the bar. Rainbow 2 also has the most girls who seem to enjoy their job.
TesterTester
12-29-14, 20:45
Baccarra is so disappointing. A top girl there would have trouble being a top girl at one of the bigger Rainbows!
Be is full of the kind of girls one would find at Suzie Wongs or Tilacs, Ok maybe not that bad-but you get the picture.I think it depends on the day you go and of course your taste. Sometimes I see the most beautiful girls in Baccara while Rainbow 4 for example might have very few lookers.
Member #4387
12-29-14, 22:36
Pussy licking is part of the lesbian show at Suzi Wong in Soi Cowboy. And in that same bar, I did once lick a dancer's pussy on the stage.
In the booths (but still clear to see for all) you can go quite far with your girl.
Best faces can be found at Rainbow 2. I saw this trend happening when the farang started to invade Rainbow 4. Rainbow 4 has very limited amount of Asian style girls now.
Some of the girls in are 2 are having way too much fun in the bar. Rainbow 2 also has the most girls who seem to enjoy their job.I haven't been to much inside Go Go's but I stand my ground on the fact that the best looking ladies not frequent the Go Go's(depends ofcourse what is your search area). Ever been to Thong Lor and watched the smashing BKK normal girl crowd? I would bet a lot of money it is here you can find the best looking BKK gals all the time it is here the models and stars are holding out.. Just making the balance as newbees could actually think hookers are the best lookers out there, hehe..
I haven't been to much inside Go Go's but I stand my ground on the fact that the best looking ladies not frequent the Go Go's(depends ofcourse what is your search area). Ever been to Thong Lor and watched the smashing BKK normal girl crowd? I would bet a lot of money it is here you can find the best looking BKK gals all the time it is here the models and stars are holding out.. Just making the balance as newbees could actually think hookers are the best lookers out there, hehe..As part of the whole population of girls agogo girls are not that great. Very few 7's, even less higher than that.
What really pretty girl wants to get on stage 20-30 minutes of every hour?
I was rating agogos girls looks. I really don't want to sit outside a Thonglor 7-11 sipping a cola watching pretty girls walk by. If there are better places- let us know.
Baccarra is so disappointing. A top girl there would have trouble being a top girl at one of the bigger Rainbows!
Be is full of the kind of girls one would find at Suzie Wongs or Tilacs, Ok maybe not that bad-but you get the picture.You seem to make a random comment. If you see girls entering Cowboy, you will be able to pick which are the Bacarra or Sharks girls. They have a completely different look to Suzie Wong girls. Its the alien plastic doll face look with funny hairstyles.
Tilac is a bit different again. More pretty girls than Suzie Wong (and less fake looks than Bacarra) and less fatties than SW. Most of these bars have a high percentage of very uninteresting girls to my taste. However always can be the odd good one.
Wolvenvacht
12-30-14, 07:53
I haven't been to much inside Go Go's but I stand my ground on the fact that the best looking ladies not frequent the Go Go's(depends ofcourse what is your search area). Ever been to Thong Lor and watched the smashing BKK normal girl crowd? I would bet a lot of money it is here you can find the best looking BKK gals all the time it is here the models and stars are holding out.. Just making the balance as newbees could actually think hookers are the best lookers out there, hehe..You are right, but it is all just eye candy (do you remember Fon Tok's photos?). I doubt if these gals will join me in my hotel for some horizontal gym for a few thousand baht.
A pretty girl is a pretty girl. If you don't know when you see one that's on you.
Personal taste comes into play when you go down the ladder. Some like basement level girls-that doesn't make them hot.
Eric Swiss
12-30-14, 16:05
I went out to Nana Plaza recently and checked out the go-go bars. I have this new policy of drinking just one beer at one place and moving on if I haven't found a girl. It seems to work, as multiple changes of venue make the night seem more dynamic and wild.
After a while I ended up at the Mandarin. There are two of them side by side, I am talking about the upstairs one. There was a girl who was really dancing very well. She had amazing pelvic motility.
When I was younger I used that as a test to forecast what girls would be good in the sack. I'd set the passenger seat in my car way backwards before giving her a lift, and she'd have to reach the lever underneath the seat while making a strong pelvic motion forwards to adjust her seat position. When the girl couldn't do it in one fell swoop and struggled with it, she wasn't worth the effort.
I tried to motion her to come sit with me a few times but she was acting shy. At some point the Mamasan just told her to come down the stage and have a lady drink with me. She was very slim, not too tall, just right. Maybe 26 years old, which is a good age. The older ones wear the traces of their history of sin on their face like the portrait of Dorian Gray, and I am reluctant to go with girls less than half my age (although that may have to change in the future, ha!) She told me her name was Ding.
I asked her if she gave blowjob without condom and she said yes. We agreed on the price and checked into the short-time hotel.
After shower, she said she was going to do only BJ. That was a shit test! The shit test is a concept originally designed by Pick-Up Artists (also called The Game by Neil Strauss) for "normal" girls, but the principles of Game are universal, so using some Game on working girls enhances your experience. The basic idea is that the girl gives you shit to test how you react. If you fold, apologize or accommodate, her pussy dries up and her legs clench shut. If you just blow past the shit test with a minimum of skill, her hormones know you're a real man and she will give you her best.
So I just got up, said "We've got a problem here", and started to dress up. I was always smiling, not unnerved, not judgmental, just matter-of-fact. Her story was that, because I had only asked her about her BJ technique, I had not asked for full service while we were negotiating in the bar, and I was not going to get it. I could have told her that the price we agreed upon was clearly Full Service price, but I thought that was too harsh, so I kept it in reserve, and dialed it down by explaining that some girls give covered (= bad) Blow Jobs, so I wanted to make sure before I bar-fined her. I passed the test by being very nice but keeping my hand on the door handle. Chicks dig guys who act like a rebuff is no big deal because they have plenty of options: the abundance mentality.
Then just like that she flipped around, agreed to Full Service, and went on to give me one of my most memorable sexual experiences. It was very intimate, and she looked like she was really into it. I went on for a long time, and when my erection was flagging she gave me an enthusiastic blow job to revive it. This was exactly what picking up a girl in a disco and bringing her home the same night felt like back in my younger days in the West.
She seemed to be pretty fresh off the boat for her age. Maybe she got dumped by a long-time boyfriend recently and is trying the pay-for-play scene as a transitional period. If so she won't last long, because some guy will pay her a monthly stipend to keep her as his mistress. This is written in stone, given how high-quality she is.
VanWilderGuy
12-30-14, 19:51
and went on to give me one of my most memorable sexual experiences. It was very intimate, and she looked like she was really into it.Well done sir. Never fold under pressure, Maybe I will take her for a test drive when I arrive on the 6th! Sounds like a champ! I will report back on my experience if I can find her.
VW
I went out to Nana Plaza recently and checked out the go-go bars. I have this new policy of drinking just one beer at one place and moving on if I haven't found a girl. It seems to work, as multiple changes of venue make the night seem more dynamic and wild.
After a while I ended up at the Mandarin. There are two of them side by side, I am talking about the upstairs one. There was a girl who was really dancing very well. She had amazing pelvic motility.
When I was younger I used that as a test to forecast what girls would be good in the sack. I'd set the passenger seat in my car way backwards before giving her a lift, and she'd have to reach the lever underneath the seat while making a strong pelvic motion forwards to adjust her seat position. When the girl couldn't do it in one fell swoop and struggled with it, she wasn't worth the effort.
I tried to motion her to come sit with me a few times but she was acting shy. At some point the Mamasan just told her to come down the stage and have a lady drink with me. She was very slim, not too tall, just right. Maybe 26 years old, which is a good age. The older ones wear the traces of their history of sin on their face like the portrait of Dorian Gray...Ning is slim. Flat chest I suppose?
Fresh off the boat? Her tactic reeks of an old veteran.
Thanks for all of the reports on the go gos. They have been helpful to me, but now I have a question that I am unsure of for an answer.
On my next trip in I will be arriving in BKK on a Friday night, landing at 11:15 pm. I will have the fast track through customs and immigration and a car taking me to my hotel, which is across the street from Soi Cowboy. After checking in and getting a bit settled I suspect it will be after 1 am before I can head out to a bar. So I will have not too long to find a decent girl, if they have not all been barfined out already.
So how do I play this? What club would still have decent girls available on a Friday night that late? Any? I think I would be in a decent bargaining position, but the girls left might not be one I want to bargain for.
Alternatively, should I call and agency and suck it up price-wise to make sure I have a good companion? Or should I just walk toward Nana until I find something decent?
Kevin McIntosh* rang us as he was sending his girlfriend 25,000 baht a month to take care of her rent, food and families bills. He became concerned when her phone was off and suspected that she was back in Pattaya working the bar again despite her promise to the contrary.
He was getting anxious every night, not knowing what was happening and whether his money was being wasted on a girl who was lying. After a quick search on Google he contacted us and told us exactly what he wanted us to do. We knew it wasn't easy for him and we tried to be as sensitive as possible.
After evaluating his needs and noting all the information he had, we went to her bar and didn't find her. The next day we tried again and this time she was working. As requested we bar fined her and headed for the hotel. On the way to the hotel the PI staff made an excuse and the girl was paid for her time and she went on her way.
The PI staff then wrote a painful report to Mr McIntosh, to be emailed immediately. One can only assume when a lady is not only bar fined but heads for a hotel, she is willing to go the full way. Mr McIntosh was able to re-evaluate his situation and is now better off financially and has now moved on.
Happy New Year to all the bargirls of BKK.
Could the above be you. If it is hahahaha. And good luck.
Last night Spankys was very crowded around midnight. It was hard to even get a seat. Several stunners and an overall good vibe, and the music was banging. Only downside was that the staff was very rude. Several times I was asked to move closer to the fellow sitting next to me (to sit 5 at the table that is meant for 4 people) and when I had enough I check bin'ed. When the girl went for change, another staff member came and asked if I wanted another beer, but I told her that I was just about to leave. Then she told me that I had to go now. Very rude way to treat a paying customer.
On my way home, I got a smile on my face when I was about to cross Sukhumvit. A large group of tourists were standing at the middle of the crosswalk. Even though there was a green light, they didn't dare to continue to walk because of the traffic that was just keeping on coming from Soi 3. The crowd was getting bigger and bigger, until someone got the courage to start walking.
When I was younger I used that as a test to forecast what girls would be good in the sack. I'd set the passenger seat in my car way backwards before giving her a lift, and she'd have to reach the lever underneath the seat while making a strong pelvic motion forwards to adjust her seat position. When the girl couldn't do it in one fell swoop and struggled with it, she wasn't worth the effort.
After shower, she said she was going to do only BJ. That was a shit test! The shit test is a concept originally designed by Pick-Up Artists (also called The Game by Neil Strauss) for "normal" girls, but the principles of Game are universal, so using some Game on working girls enhances your experience. The basic idea is that the girl gives you shit to test how you react. If you fold, apologize or accommodate, her pussy dries up and her legs clench shut. If you just blow past the shit test with a minimum of skill, her hormones know you're a real man and she will give you her best.
So I just got up, said "We've got a problem here", and started to dress up. I was always smiling, not unnerved, not judgmental, just matter-of-fact. Her story was that, because I had only asked her about her BJ technique, I had not asked for full service while we were negotiating in the bar, and I was not going to get it. I could have told her that the price we agreed upon was clearly Full Service price, but I thought that was too harsh, so I kept it in reserve, and dialed it down by explaining that some girls give covered (= bad) Blow Jobs, so I wanted to make sure before I bar-fined her. I passed the test by being very nice but keeping my hand on the door handle. Chicks dig guys who act like a rebuff is no big deal because they have plenty of options: the abundance mentality.
Fascinating stuff this pelvic watch. I'm just going through life not obsrvant like you. I need to read some books LOL.
But for what working girl would the shit test matter?
She just wanted to be paid more for just giving a BJ, no?
She couldn't get away with it tho, so she had to work the full menu. Great that ther service eded up being sensual, but it would be a mood killer for me and I wouldn't as much feel like banging her any more.
A shit test by a real girl trying to size me up on something during a date and I picked up on it and I passed, I'd fcuk her hard that night though.
There has now been issued by the police a leaflet in English about your rights during police searches.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/787561-searching-foreigners-thonglor-police-leaflet-explaining-search-policy/Some more useful info, how to spot the police from the litter man:
http://www.stickboybangkok.com/lifestyle/easily-spot-cigarette-litter-police/
I'm 35 yrs. What is the normal dress attire if I wanted to check out a night club like Climax or Insomnia in Bangkok to pick up a FL? Are jeans pants and a collared polo with covered casual shoes normal or shorts and collared shirt okay?
JR
Climax is OK with flip flops and short pants! Insanity not sure about that. But I really recommend you to wear some nice modern look jeans and and a collared polo wherever you go.
Nice decent clothes go a long way with the girls in Thailand. But not forget in the end it's about the money.
I'm 35 yrs. What is the normal dress attire if I wanted to check out a night club like Climax or Insomnia in Bangkok to pick up a FL? Are jeans pants and a collared polo with covered casual shoes normal or shorts and collared shirt okay?
JR
Thanks for all of the reports on the go gos. They have been helpful to me, but now I have a question that I am unsure of for an answer.
On my next trip in I will be arriving in BKK on a Friday night, landing at 11:15 pm. I will have the fast track through customs and immigration and a car taking me to my hotel, which is across the street from Soi Cowboy. After checking in and getting a bit settled I suspect it will be after 1 am before I can head out to a bar. So I will have not too long to find a decent girl, if they have not all been barfined out already.
So how do I play this? What club would still have decent girls available on a Friday night that late? Any? I think I would be in a decent bargaining position, but the girls left might not be one I want to bargain for.
Alternatively, should I call and agency and suck it up price-wise to make sure I have a good companion? Or should I just walk toward Nana until I find something decent?Whats the rush? I recommend waiting for Sat. - the prostitutes of Soi Cowboy and Nana plaza ain't going anywhere fast.
If you insist you need to define decent. One fella think s Suzie Wongs has decent girls.
Crocodilexp
12-31-14, 17:42
After shower, she said she was going to do only BJ. That was a shit test!... Chicks dig guys who act like a rebuff is no big deal because they have plenty of options: the abundance mentality.You handled that ok, but in your place I would have simply proceeded to kick her out (politely but without payment) after that. A prostitute is not a freebie I picked up in a club. As a paying customer, I sure ain't going to deal with any shit. She should be paying me for that. A civilian girl does, in pussy.
As for the abundance mentality, in Thailand we have actual abundance. No need to pretend.
Paul Kausch
12-31-14, 17:52
I'm 35 yrs. What is the normal dress attire if I wanted to check out a night club like Climax or Insomnia in Bangkok to pick up a FL? Are jeans pants and a collared polo with covered casual shoes normal or shorts and collared shirt okay?
JRYou will see everything from smart casual to very casual. Dress as you feel comfortable.
You will see everything from smart casual to very casual. Dress as you feel comfortable.Then sneakers are fine I'd say, what about beach flipflops (not that I would like to).
You handled that ok, but in your place I would have simply proceeded to kick her out (politely but without payment) after that. A prostitute is not a freebie I picked up in a club. As a paying customer, I sure ain't going to deal with any shit. She should be paying me for that. A civilian girl does, in pussy.
As for the abundance mentality, in Thailand we have actual abundance. No need to pretend.I'm in agreement.
IllusionHeart
12-31-14, 18:32
December 23 (Day 1: Tuesday)
I landed in Bangkok at 7. 20 am in the morning. Took almost 2. 30 hours to get through VOA as multiple flights had landed at same time. I was anyways not in a hurry, check-in being after 12 am. I had booked Hotel Manhattan as this was a last minute trip and tariffs for preferred hotels were beyond reach. I was to be joined by a buddy from Singapore in the evening and we were to go to Pattaya on 25th December. I had planned to spend 2 nights in this city as my first experience had been really good in November.
I made it to the Hotel and was granted early check-in. Got currency exchanged at the shop on corner of 7/1 alley. Rested for a while and plan was to hit a soapy later in the afternoon. I took the BTS around 4 pm to get to Cherry Massage, looked up the site on way but no pics of girls were available, looked like the site had been revamped to acknowledge the place's presence and give directions only. On my Last visit there were 3 girls, not doable hence had moved onto Tulip. I walked in and it seemed like a dejavu, 3 girls again and none interested me. I stepped out and was contemplating on where to go and decided to step next door into Angel massage. The receptionist were stocking photographs of the girls present on the day. She explained the charges and I browsed through the album selected few but got turned down as they had a pink or yellow tag which the receptionist explained meant they were either busy at the moment or had a booking lined up. I asked her which ones were actually free and available. She said I better take a look for myself. She opened the door in front of the counter and there were 7/8 girls sitting. I screened briefly and decided to take Pim as she was smiling and looked kinda cute to me. I do prefer GFE and she seemed a promising candidate. I decided to get into VIP room and ordered for a Heineken. Pim took me upstairs. Usual shower and brief lotion massage process followed. I checked later and found Pim listed on the site but on the 3rd or 4th page. She had A sized boobs, trimmed Bush, couldn't guess earlier due to her smart padding. CBJ and few positions. PIM was energetic but somehow it just ended like an average session and got my load off. Total 2350 (1500 + 650 + 200 tip). Session: 5/10.
I came back and took a nap. My buddy joined me at around 8 pm. He settled down and we had few shots of JD he had brought along from Singapore. It was 10 pm before we left hotel and decided to walk towards NEP. The crowd slowed us down considerably and on reaching the corner I moved to the right, wanted to check out stuff available in Grace hotel I had read in one senior members FR. Nothing great observed and to write, took a leak in the lobby and walked back towards NEP. While chatting on the way our conversation ended on Russians and somehow we ended up in lobby of Hotel Rajah. SP immediately accosted us to the 4th floor. He took us from one room to another with 1 or more ladies sitting in each room with the door open. Price was 3000 baht for ST. We came out as soon as we could and ended up in NEP finally.
We went in, place looked quite lively. There was decent crowd in the bar. Walked up to Angelwitch first, bad choice. 3 women on stage, none interesting but good rock music was playing so decided to sit for a few songs and cool off. Bad decision, ac was not working properly and the place was quite warm and smoky. Continued to work our way through the first beer, the show started and it was repeat performance of what I had seen a month earlier. Not happening for me decided to walk across to Hot lips. Candy land had replaced hot lips though the staff and girls remained same. Spent some time there but nothing to write about. NEP really seems to be going downhill with each passing month. We decided to hit Climax. Reached there paid entrance and got in. Lot of mature ladies. Girls strictly MIA. Stuck around for an hour and got out. It was nearing 2 pm and I wanted to get to Soi cowboy before time ran out. Walked briskly towards soi cowboy. Saw that the mobile bars on the footpath leading to were being set up so had an option in back of my mind. Baccara had closed and they were winding up, walked upto Suzie wong was almost empty, walked toward Crazy House and as soon as we approached the entrance the guy asked us to go in but another guy sitting on the stool towards the road said that we need to buy drinks. I thought isn't that why we were entering, to drink. There was a confusion between both with one holding hand and asking to enter while other insisting to buy drinks. I wanted to avoid this and we walked away. Back to the mobile street bars outside soi cowboy as other bars inside were also packing up and seemed empty as most had folded the curtains on the entrance. Settled in one had a few drinks there and got a guy with guitar hanging around to play some rock ballads for drinks in exchange. There were some girls but none interesting, changed to another bar right on the corner, met some aussie guys, interesting conversation over cricket but no decent girl around, hung around enjoying our drinks and the hot cricket conversation with the chilly weather. Maybe this was not our lucky night. We also had to walk up to country road or the corner bar at the entrance of soi cowboy to take a leak and they charged 20 baht for it. Was almost 6 am by the time we finished and reached hotel.
IllusionHeart
12-31-14, 18:41
December 24 (Day 2: Wednesday)
We got up at 1 pm took the BTS and got ourselves to Boat noddle alley for lunch (I really thank Natty for sharing this place, outstanding noodles). My buddy went to get a massage in Soi 7/1 and I went and rested for a while, was not feeling quite well. Got up and booked a taxi through VR for morning pickup to pattaya, smooth process and charge was 1200 baht. Lady confirmed on txt. We then had a few JD cola shots in the room and hit Soi cowboy. Went to Baccara at 10 pm. As usual amazing selection of girls. I found the cute and young ones on the ground floor as both the first and second floor had more silicones and girls looked better suited for PSE to me. We settled on the stool near the bar. The girls changed stage and few approached us. Found one to be good but wanted to have a better look around. Went up to the first floor to smoke. I liked one of the waitress serving near the right hand corner tables, amazing looks, slim body, cute smile was wondering how come she's not on the stage. I got myself and her a drink, broke ice with her. Within minutes I asked if I could bar fine her, her look was of surprise, she showed her hand towards all the girls on the floor and asked me to take a pick from there. I said I was interested in her. She told me that mamasan will not let her out before closing time as the place was quite busy. Hard luck but she was worth trying for me. We sat on the sofa staring at the silicones all around. Meanwhile the girl we had met down came upstairs and we invited her to join us. She was from Laos, name was ruchiba or ruchita. Barfined her ST, split with buddy and headed to hotel. Surprisingly Manhattan charged joiner fee of 500 baht despite booking room 2 rooms each with 2 person. Good session with the girl though, be sized boobs, girl was very active. Total 3800 (2500 + 600 + 200 tip+ 500 joiner fee). Session: 6. 5/10. Surprisingly she said that there are some more Laotian girls in Baccara. I wanted to get into Crazy house to check Laos / Cambodian girls earlier night but couldn't. I will definitely return to Baccara to check these women out in future.
I finished and let the girl go. I than took a walk upto Soi 33, wanted to check if there was any flesh left on bones of Dali and I had never been to a hostess bar before. Better to check one before they all close down. I went in and was followed by the old mamasan sitting at the door. Few guys hanging around and maybe 6/7 ladies, 3 of which were ok. They were all well dressed (party / long dress) not the typical gogo tube tops and tanks. Most of them seemed to be enjoying drinks with old timers at the bar, could make out by the way they were chatting up with girls across the bar. I took a seat near the cash counter at the end. Got a SML. One free lady walked up to me and settled in the chair besides. I got her a drink, was on cruise mode now. Looks wise she was average but she knew her sport. Unfortunately she couldn't speak or understand much English except basic pleasantries which I found quite surprising. So the other lady played the interpreter. This lady seemed to be fast and good, maybe the lack of customer coming this was must be making them eager to not let go of anyone who walks in. I switched to google translate, helps most of the times. Didn't want an interpreter hanging around. Within minutes the lady had started kissing me, blowing smoke from her lips to mine, rubbing her arse to my tool. She was really skilled, must have been 30 yr old, be cups, good body and a shapely arse. It happened so fast that I didn't even remember her name, didn't want to ask again as I really needed time from the session just finished. I resisted my hands from entering her panties. I told her that I couldn't take her now and maybe will come back later, settled my tab and moved back towards Asoke junction wherein I would catch up with my buddy.
We entered Soi cowboy again and got a seat on the corner bar at the right of the entrance to the soi, needed to cool off more. Got ourselves a beer, place started filling up with LBs, decided to move on. We entered Suzie wong, it was empty again, 2 matured girls dancing topless on the stage. I wondered whether all girls had been barfined or they were just having a bad day. Didn't stick around, festivities were high outside with all coyote girls cheering and wishing Merry Christmas to each other and customers. Few had already opened beer bottles and were splashing around. It was really a very lively atmosphere. It was nearing 2 pm and I decided to walk into Sharks. There were quite few girls on the floor, felt good after having come from an almost empty Suzie Wong, liked one but someone had already barfined her. I asked the mamasan regarding the closing time to which she replied late today for Christmas, I assumed 4 or 5 am minimum. Also must be the reason why so many girls were still available. Sat around but none ticked the list. We decided to check another bar now armed with the knowledge that we had some more time on our hand.
As were standing out contemplating which bar to enter Baccara had closed. Guess all their girls must have got barfined while other bars still had loads of coyotes on the street. It was barely 3. 30 am now.
We decided to walk towards main road. While passing through I saw a stunning girl amongst the numerous coyotes sitting outside Cowboy2. I just froze in my tracks, she looked tired and weared down and was leaning on another girls shoulder, both sitting on stool outside the bar. I felt as if she's pulling me towards herself (JD and SML were doing their magic). I decided to go in. Whoah!! This place had an amazing selection of girls inside, must be 20/25 girls up on stage and few customers around and another 20 odd sitting on the sofas near the toilet entrance. Good enough for us to settle down and have a few beers. But my eyes were looking for the girl I saw outside. I went out for a smoke and made eye contact with her followed by a smile, maybe she got my message. She walked in and settled on the sofa with other girls. Huge commotion being caused by few dudes getting girls to pole dance at their tables on the opposite side of the stage. The girls then changed stage and I was like a tiger waiting to pounce on my prey. I just wanted her. Another lot of 15 odd girls got on stage. Surprising for me that so many girls at this time of the night and available. Not waiting for the mamasan I waved to her as soon as she got on stage she responded with a smile. Now the wait for her to get off stage, another 15 minutes later girl was sitting besides me. Buddy bagged another one. Got them drinks, started chatting with her. She was from Isaan, the unique jawline and sharp nose, slender body like a cheetah. Anna was her name. I immediately told her that I wanted to barfine her. She said she couldn't go with me as she had to get home by 5 a, was staying with her family. I didn't believe it and couldn't take her refusal, got her another drink and kept working my way. Told her that my hotel was also close by and it would be fast and quick looking at the watch which was almost nearing 4. 15 am. I told her I really liked her and persisted like a kid to spare me that 1 hour. She finally said she would check with counter and come back in few minutes. I waited and she was back with a sad face. She said that she could come but I would have to pay a barfine of 3000 and another 3000 to her for ST, 6000 baht got my eyes rolled up. It hit me suddenly that maybe this steep barfine was the reason that so many stunning girls were still in the bar and on street. But now the crowd had thinned quite a bit and holding back these girls didn't seem sensible but who was I to question that. I took her out for a smoke and wondered in my mind. She told me that if I come early tomorrow I could barfine her and the charges would be normal again. 3000 was kept for Christmas eve specifically. Why this day? I wondered. I took a deep breath and decided against spending this amount of money as I was going to pattaya next day and wanted to hold onto the cash. 6000 seemed ridiculous to me at that point despite the crazy urge to fuck her. I even offered her to tag along to pattaya with me and that I would take care of all her expenses and bar fines, etc to which she smilingly refused. I wasn't expecting her to say yes though but no harm in trying. Spend some more time with her till I could finish my drink and then walked away with heavy heart, sorry, heavy balls.
She saw me off at the door and I walked away with a raging hard on. Had become immune to the pulling and laughter of all the coyote girls who were drunk and still having fun around shouting and cheering.
Ended up in the street with mobile bar of last night, didn't feel like drinking anymore so called it a night. Next evening was to be in Pattaya and hoped for a good one.
I was woken up by a call from the VR taxi driver at 11.30 am. I asked him to wait for an hour as we had just got up and needed to pack and check out. He did without any issue, really appreciated that. Packed fast and checked out and were on way to Pattaya.
Paul Kausch
12-31-14, 18:54
Then sneakers are fine I'd say, what about beach flipflops (not that I would like to).I wear sneakers. I have a pair of Converse All-Stars that I often wear with five-pocket cotton jeans and a nice sport shirt. I get compliments from ladies who are surprised to see such an old fart wearing something hip. ;) In the nicer clubs people tend to be better dressed. In a more Plebeian club like Climax you will see the gamut. Some guys will wear not very flattering clothes with a lot lof miles on them. I've seen guys in sandals. I don't recall seeing flip-flops, but I wasn't looking. When I go out in Bangkok I wear smart casual because that is how I feel comfortable. But the bottom line is the ladies are interested in the depth of your pocket. You could show up looking like a bum, grab a table, order several bottles and invite ladies to join you. None would refuse.
TwoTimeTed
12-31-14, 18:56
Kevin McIntosh* rang us as he was sending his girlfriend 25,000 baht a month to take care of her rent, food and families bills. He became concerned when her phone was off and suspected that she was back in Pattaya working the bar again despite her promise to the contrary.
He was getting anxious every night, not knowing what was happening and whether his money was being wasted on a girl who was lying. After a quick search on Google he contacted us and told us exactly what he wanted us to do. We knew it wasn't easy for him and we tried to be as sensitive as possible.
After evaluating his needs and noting all the information he had, we went to her bar and didn't find her. The next day we tried again and this time she was working. As requested we bar fined her and headed for the hotel. On the way to the hotel the PI staff made an excuse and the girl was paid for her time and she went on her way...I hope I never fall into this category (again).
But it does remind me of a case here in Las Vegas recently.
The gentleman married a Thai girl here in the states and after just a few months, he is getting a divorce. It seems this guy didn't check her background because this gal was doing massages and BJs here in Vegas, advertising on BP and CL. I guess this gal continued her ways even after she got married.
If you want to read for yourself, just google "Vegas Thai Massage Kate" and within a few pages is a Facebook rant for all to see.
Surprisingly Manhattan charged joiner fee of 500 baht despite booking room 2 rooms each with 2 person. I went thru barfriendlyhotels website and 99% of the hotels that replied to emails came straight out and said 'no, we don't charge a joiner fee'. Then there's Manhattan who's response:
Thank you very much for enquiry, refer to Hotel Manhattan Bangkok guest register. If you wish not charge for visitor, we would suggest you should book and pay for twin or double room rate. With kind regards, Wasana.Guess I'll never be staying at this hotel.
I wear sneakers. I have a pair of Converse All-Stars that I often wear with five-pocket cotton jeans and a nice sport shirt. I get compliments from ladies who are surprised to see such an old fart wearing something hip. ;) In the nicer clubs people tend to be better dressed. In a more Plebeian club like Climax you will see the gamut. Some guys will wear not very flattering clothes with a lot lof miles on them. I've seen guys in sandals. I don't recall seeing flip-flops, but I wasn't looking. When I go out in Bangkok I wear smart casual because that is how I feel comfortable. But the bottom line is the ladies are interested in the depth of your pocket. You could show up looking like a bum, grab a table, order several bottles and invite ladies to join you. None would refuse.I was thinking about some kinda cargo pants, easy to carry crap in pockets, or cargo shorts. Jeans might be a bit stuffy for me for thailand weather, though somebody might be eyeing my cargo pant pockets. Lookin for a 1-200 $ watch actually to wear too, maybe some casio thingy, would love to buy something from somewhere while there, but I'd have to wear something in the mean time while arriving there and really don't want to. All my current watches are over a two thousand.
Well you write quite well for a bloke in converse all-stars.
Paul Kausch
01-01-15, 02:16
I was thinking about some kinda cargo pants, easy to carry crap in pockets, or cargo shorts. Jeans might be a bit stuffy for me for thailand weather, though somebody might be eyeing my cargo pant pockets. Lookin for a 1-200 $ watch actually to wear too, maybe some casio thingy, would love to buy something from somewhere while there, but I'd have to wear something in the mean time while arriving there and really don't want to. All my current watches are over a two thousand.
Well you write quite well for a bloke in converse all-stars.I don't wear denim jeans in Bangkok - too hot. I have several pair of summer twill jeans in various colors for casual wear. I see a lot of cargo pants worn in Bangkok. I've read pick pockets love guys who wear cargo pants. I think Bangkok is a pretty safe city. Still, I wouldn't wear a $2K watch walking the sidewalks at night. I wear a Citizen watch I paid a couple hundred for when I travel.
SirWilliam4
01-01-15, 02:31
My apologies in advance for a non-mongering post.
On several occasions in the past I've read recommendations for high quality, dependable tailors (for custom made suits) in the Sukhumvit area. Now I cannot seem to find them.
Current recommendations from first-hand experience would be greatly appreciated.
SW4.
Paul Kausch
01-01-15, 02:38
My apologies in advance for a non-mongering post.
On several occasions in the past I've read recommendations for high quality, dependable tailors (for custom made suits) in the Sukhumvit area. Now I cannot seem to find them.
Current recommendations from first-hand experience would be greatly appreciated.
SW4.Boss Apparel across from National Stadium is reputable. Here's an article Stickman wrote about them a few years ago.
http://www.stickmanweekly.com/IndianTailorBangkokRecommendation.htm
I've had suits and shirts made by Tailor on Ten, which is actually on Soi 8. It is owned by two Canadian guys who are very pleasant to deal with. They are not the cheapest but I've found them to be honest and they stand behind their work. Check their website.
I'm 35 yrs. What is the normal dress attire if I wanted to check out a night club like Climax or Insomnia in Bangkok to pick up a FL? Are jeans pants and a collared polo with covered casual shoes normal or shorts and collared shirt okay?
JRWhat you describe is perfect. But while we're on the subject, as a cranky fussbudget, I'll say that this is a pet peeve. Guys who show up in clubs looking like a wino. Thailand is but one of a great many countries where grown men don't wear shorts, unless they are poor manual laborers or are at the beach. I always wear jeans in BKK (you get used to it), or a summer weight pair of slacks and a collared shirt if going to someplace decent at night.
Now, as a farang, you can usually get by in anything this side of a Speedo (If you look like Brad Pitt you can probably do the Speedo, too), but that doesn't mean you should. Asians place a large emphasis on appearance, so if you look good, you'll be treated better.
I don't wear denim jeans in Bangkok - too hot. I have several pair of summer twill jeans in various colors for casual wear. I see a lot of cargo pants worn in Bangkok. I've read pick pockets love guys who wear cargo pants. I think Bangkok is a pretty safe city. Still, I wouldn't wear a $2K watch walking the sidewalks at night. I wear a Citizen watch I paid a couple hundred for when I travel.Bangkok has become one of the most important cities in the world for good denim. I am certainly a fan. Went to the Pronto Denim Carnival a few weeks ago and the Japanese manufacturers all said that BKK is as important as Tokyo is not more so now. There are more great shops selling selvedge denim here than you will see in any US major city. Also quite a few folks manufacturing and doing bespoke jeans in Thailand. There is nothing like a great pair of jeans. Have three great pair myself. And yes, I wash the once a year. And no, they don't smell. Even in the Bangkok heat my 18 oz ones are comfortable. Good denim breathes better than most fabrics.
Get a great pair of jeans Paul. You won't be hot.
What you describe is perfect. But while we're on the subject, as a cranky fussbudget, I'll say that this is a pet peeve. Guys who show up in clubs looking like a wino. Thailand is but one of a great many countries where grown men don't wear shorts, unless they are poor manual laborers or are at the beach. I always wear jeans in BKK (you get used to it), or a summer weight pair of slacks and a collared shirt if going to someplace decent at night.
Now, as a farang, you can usually get by in anything this side of a Speedo (If you look like Brad Pitt you can probably do the Speedo, too), but that doesn't mean you should. Asians place a large emphasis on appearance, so if you look good, you'll be treated better.You are actually starting to see more and more Thai men in shorts. Not shorts and tank tops, but shorts and a nice shirt paired with a good pair of shoes.
Paul Kausch
01-01-15, 04:18
Bangkok has become one of the most important cities in the world for good denim. I am certainly a fan. Went to the Pronto Denim Carnival a few weeks ago and the Japanese manufacturers all said that BKK is as important as Tokyo is not more so now. There are more great shops selling selvedge denim here than you will see in any US major city. Also quite a few folks manufacturing and doing bespoke jeans in Thailand. There is nothing like a great pair of jeans. Have three great pair myself. And yes, I wash the once a year. And no, they don't smell. Even in the Bangkok heat my 18 oz ones are comfortable. Good denim breathes better than most fabrics.
Get a great pair of jeans Paul. You won't be hot.I noticed a temporary booth at Terminal 21 taking orders for custom denim jeans. They weren't truly bespoke. You started by selecting the waist and inseam measurements, the cut and then had scores of custom options to choose from. There was a young man taking orders and helping customers with the multitude of options. Had I run across it at the beginning of my trip I would have ordered a pair. I really like jeans. I live in Southeast Florida and do find them hot in the summer. I wear mostly linen and summer weight twill, which I find more comfortable. Perhaps my jeans, which are fine in our mild winters, are made from too heavy a weight denim. I will take your advice and shop for a pair of bespoke or custom made jeans on my next trip this spring. Where do you recommend I look?
You are actually starting to see more and more Thai men in shorts. Not shorts and tank tops, but shorts and a nice shirt paired with a good pair of shoes.Yes and even Thais commented I looked better in shorts than jeans, but depends on the occasion.
I wear sneakers. I have a pair of Converse All-Stars that I often wear with five-pocket cotton jeans and a nice sport shirt. I get compliments from ladies who are surprised to see such an old fart wearing something hip. ;) In the nicer clubs people tend to be better dressed. In a more Plebeian club like Climax you will see the gamut. Some guys will wear not very flattering clothes with a lot lof miles on them. I've seen guys in sandals. I don't recall seeing flip-flops, but I wasn't looking. When I go out in Bangkok I wear smart casual because that is how I feel comfortable. But the bottom line is the ladies are interested in the depth of your pocket. You could show up looking like a bum, grab a table, order several bottles and invite ladies to join you. None would refuse.I wear sandals a lot for fresh air and lack of stinkiness (no socks). However not to club obviously, where proper shoes are called for, even if Thais are telling you to go more casual (they can be wrong). I don't really think sneakers are a good idea if you are dressing up a bit, however maybe I can be wrong on this.
In most situations its too hot to wear sneakers really.
Paul Kausch
01-01-15, 06:16
You are actually starting to see more and more Thai men in shorts. Not shorts and tank tops, but shorts and a nice shirt paired with a good pair of shoes.I noticed that. A nice pair of Bermuda shorts, a sport shirt and nice looking casual shoes can look very smart and sporty, and it's sensible in the tropics. The department stores in South Florida sell men's dress socks that just cover the foot, like the "no show" athletic socks. Since dress socks and shorts look ridiculous, and shoes with no socks can get sweaty and smelly, they are a good solution if you want to wear leather loafers with your Bermudas.
I wear sandals a lot for fresh air and lack of stinkiness (no socks). However not to club obviously, where proper shoes are called for, even if Thais are telling you to go more casual (they can be wrong). I don't really think sneakers are a good idea if you are dressing up a bit, however maybe I can be wrong on this.
In most situations its too hot to wear sneakers really.I agree with you, though I don't find sneakers to be any hotter than leather shoes. I believe sneakers are inappropriate for smart casual casual; though I have seen young male models in men's fashion magazines wearing sneakers with jeans and a sport coat. I would only wear sneakers with very casual attire. I bought mine for nostalgic reasons. I used to wear them as a kid. I was surprised when Fiona, the escort with Pure Bangkok Escorts I frequently booked, carried on about how stylish I looked in them. I have a hard time thinking of an old (or even new) pair of Converse as stylish. On a related note, Keds were the alternative popular brand when I was a kid. They were commonly worn by younger boys and girls. They used to come in colors, while Converse were only available in black and white. Are Keds still around? I can find them on the internet, but I haven't noticed young people wearing them.
Member #4387
01-01-15, 06:19
I'm 35 yrs. What is the normal dress attire if I wanted to check out a night club like Climax or Insomnia in Bangkok to pick up a FL? Are jeans pants and a collared polo with covered casual shoes normal or shorts and collared shirt okay?
JRClimax beeing more or less an all in FL place you could do the Victoria Bitter singlet and adidas shorts and flip flops routine but as the girls there choose freely your apperiance can help the outcome as in get you the present top lookers or not. Same goes for Bangkok Beat. If we move up a notch to Insanity (no more Insomnia in Bangkok, it is in Pattis), Shock, Levels, Mixx decent dressed will do. Clubs in Thong Lor you can also find newest trends from the fashion industry so without beeing nazi about it I try to atleast have one eye open what is cooking in this department. But classic clothing as Paul Smith, Diesel Denims, Ralph Lauren, Gant, Jim Thompson (local hero) etc will do you fine in almost all cases. I dress pretty much as you describe for the nightlife ex the shorts. Daytime activity I wear mostly denim shorts, t-shirts and some decent footwear. I put away expensive watches and other accesories if stralling pointless around during daytime ex for the Silom area and high end mall visits. I put it back on for the nightlife activity. Never experienced any safety issues in BKK no matter what but ofcourse that could be just pure luck, I don't know.
As some comments i get the feel the regular BKK crowd becomes more and more occupied with fashions. Probably due to they have more money to spend. I see through my regular non prostitute girls they do some high quality shopping more often now and same goes for their male friends as well.
I noticed a temporary booth at Terminal 21 taking orders for custom denim jeans. They weren't truly bespoke. You started by selecting the waist and inseam measurements, the cut and then had scores of custom options to choose from. There was a young man taking orders and helping customers with the multitude of options. Had I run across it at the beginning of my trip I would have ordered a pair. I really like jeans. I live in Southeast Florida and do find them hot in the summer. I wear mostly linen and summer weight twill, which I find more comfortable. Perhaps my jeans, which are fine in our mild winters, are made from too heavy a weight denim. I will take your advice and shop for a pair of bespoke or custom made jeans on my next trip this spring. Where do you recommend I look?Yep, I know who you are talking about. I have been to their shop. Ok, but I would probable go with a different shop. A Canadian guy, Ben Viapiana, does really good work. Also Nama Denim in T21 on the men's floor makes some great jeans. I have jeans from both and am very happy. Ben takes about 2 weeks. Once you get a great pair made of Japanese selvedge you will be a convert. I would suggest about a 15 oz fabric to start with. PM me next time you are in town and I can direct you to Ben's.
Wolvenvacht
01-01-15, 09:47
I don't wear denim jeans in Bangkok - too hot. I have several pair of summer twill jeans in various colors for casual wear. I see a lot of cargo pants worn in Bangkok. I've read pick pockets love guys who wear cargo pants. I think Bangkok is a pretty safe city. Still, I wouldn't wear a $2K watch walking the sidewalks at night. I wear a Citizen watch I paid a couple hundred for when I travel.Cargo pants can be risky unless you wear the right kind of cargo pants. I find Tilley has very comfortable and secure cargo pants / shorts: http://www.tilley.com/uk_en/men/pants-shorts/shorts/multi-tech-cargo-shorts.html and http://www.tilley.com/uk_en/men/pants-shorts/outdoor-active/classic-zip-off-pants.html. Wash in the hotel sink and hang to dry: ready to wear again the next morning. Pockets are zippered and / or velcro-ed, with some extra "hidden" pockets inside.
Add some of their tropical fabric "safari" style shirts and you are ready to face the urban jungle of Bangkok by day or night!
Wolvenvacht
01-01-15, 09:55
I wear sandals a lot for fresh air and lack of stinkiness (no socks). However not to club obviously, where proper shoes are called for, even if Thais are telling you to go more casual (they can be wrong). I don't really think sneakers are a good idea if you are dressing up a bit, however maybe I can be wrong on this.
In most situations its too hot to wear sneakers really.I actually bought a few pairs of crocs-loafers in Thailand and Singapore. I find them very comfortable, lightweight and stylish. http://www.crocs.com/crocs-mens-stretch-sole-loafer/14773,default,pd.html?cid=464&cgid=men-footwear-loafers#start=2.
Wolvenvacht
01-01-15, 10:04
My apologies in advance for a non-mongering post.
On several occasions in the past I've read recommendations for high quality, dependable tailors (for custom made suits) in the Sukhumvit area. Now I cannot seem to find them.
Current recommendations from first-hand experience would be greatly appreciated.
SW4."Tailor on Ten" (http://www.tailoronten.com/), definitely. But don't expect your suit to be ready in 24 hours as a good suit will need at least 2 fittings. Think about 5 days. You will pay the price of a good (non-bespoke) suit in Europe, but of course this one will be fully made-to-measure.
They also have the best shirts I've ever seen: solid quality and fully customizable down to the last detail.
Paul Kausch
01-01-15, 14:13
"Tailor on Ten" (http://www.tailoronten.com/), definitely. But don't expect your suit to be ready in 24 hours as a good suit will need at least 2 fittings. Think about 5 days. You will pay the price of a good (non-bespoke) suit in Europe, but of course this one will be fully made-to-measure.
They also have the best shirts I've ever seen: solid quality and fully customizable down to the last detail.My first suit by Tailor on Ten took a week, which entailed the first visit when I made my selections and they took my measurements; two subsequent fittings; and a final fitting when they finished the jacket sleeves and hemmed the trousers. I agree with your assessment of their shirts.
Paul Kausch
01-01-15, 14:14
Yep, I know who you are talking about. I have been to their shop. Ok, but I would probable go with a different shop. A Canadian guy, Ben Viapiana, does really good work. Also Nama Denim in T21 on the men's floor makes some great jeans. I have jeans from both and am very happy. Ben takes about 2 weeks. Once you get a great pair made of Japanese selvedge you will be a convert. I would suggest about a 15 oz fabric to start with. PM me next time you are in town and I can direct you to Ben's.Thank you. I will contact you shortly before my next trip.
Ralph Kramden
01-01-15, 14:15
I had good luck with competitive prices and service at Raja's but that was some years ago. They are still located at the same convenient location just below the Sky Train Nana Station.
http://www.rajasfashions.com/index.php
Member #4698
01-01-15, 14:47
Yep, I know who you are talking about. I have been to their shop. Ok, but I would probable go with a different shop. A Canadian guy, Ben Viapiana, does really good work. Also Nama Denim in T21 on the men's floor makes some great jeans. I have jeans from both and am very happy. Ben takes about 2 weeks. Once you get a great pair made of Japanese selvedge you will be a convert. I would suggest about a 15 oz fabric to start with. PM me next time you are in town and I can direct you to Ben's.I think this is the Denim Festival you guys are talking about:
http://bk.asia-city.com/shopping/news/best-jeans-denim-bangkok
I agree that there is nothing like a custom made pair of bespoke jeans. Match them with a loose fitting Thai silk or linen shirt from Jim Thompson (avoid the elephant patterns) and a pair of Brooks Cascadia Trail Running Shoes and you are ready to hit the best clubs and discos in town.
Happy New Year everybody. I think 2015 is going to be a good year.
Paul Kausch
01-01-15, 15:16
I think this is the Denim Festival you guys are talking about:
http://bk.asia-city.com/shopping/news/best-jeans-denim-bangkok
I agree that there is nothing like a custom made pair of bespoke jeans. Match them with a loose fitting Thai silk or linen shirt from Jim Thompson (avoid the elephant patterns) and a pair of Brooks Cascadia Trail Running Shoes and you are ready to hit the best clubs and discos in town.
Happy New Year everybody. I think 2015 is going to be a good year.Yes, my visit to T21 was during that time period. What do you have against elephants? ;)
FruitNinja
01-01-15, 15:24
I don't wear denim jeans in Bangkok - too hot. I have several pair of summer twill jeans in various colors for casual wear. I see a lot of cargo pants worn in Bangkok. I've read pick pockets love guys who wear cargo pants. I think Bangkok is a pretty safe city. Still, I wouldn't wear a $2K watch walking the sidewalks at night. I wear a Citizen watch I paid a couple hundred for when I travel.I have some linen slacks that are cut like jeans. Very comfortable and very cool. Thicker linen so they don't wrinkle as easy. Shorts are a US phenomena. I've been to 60 plus countries and grown men don't normally wear shorts. If someone is fashion challenged all you have to do is get online and look what the high end stores are selling. If you can swing it shop at Nordstrums, you can't go wrong. If that's not your budget then hit some of the smaller brands that sell to teenagers. H&M comes to mind. Just keep your purchase to the conservative looking garb.
I have a knock off of the Panerai 268 that I bought in Thailand years ago for $125. I leave the 11 K one at home. My philosophy if I get robbed is to hand over everything in my possessions and ask the guy if he wants a cup of coffee to go. Always have back up cash and debit cards in the hotel safe.
8 Days! Man I have a lot to do before I leave.
Paul Kausch
01-01-15, 15:58
I have some linen slacks that are cut like jeans. Very comfortable and very cool. Thicker linen so they don't wrinkle as easy. Shorts are a US phenomena. I've been to 60 plus countries and grown men don't normally wear shorts. If someone is fashion challenged all you have to do is get online and look what the high end stores are selling. If you can swing it shop at Nordstrums, you can't go wrong. If that's not your budget then hit some of the smaller brands that sell to teenagers. H&M comes to mind. Just keep your purchase to the conservative looking garb.
I have a knock off of the Panerai 268 that I bought in Thailand years ago for $125. I leave the 11 K one at home. My philosophy if I get robbed is to hand over everything in my possessions and ask the guy if he wants a cup of coffee to go. Always have back up cash and debit cards in the hotel safe.
8 Days! Man I have a lot to do before I leave.Thank you for the suggestions. Next time I get mugged I'll try your technique. ;)
Just can't comprehend how the top girls do it. Do they use a tube full of lube every session?
I think this is the Denim Festival you guys are talking about:
http://bk.asia-city.com/shopping/news/best-jeans-denim-bangkok
I agree that there is nothing like a custom made pair of bespoke jeans. Match them with a loose fitting Thai silk or linen shirt from Jim Thompson (avoid the elephant patterns) and a pair of Brooks Cascadia Trail Running Shoes and you are ready to hit the best clubs and discos in town.
Happy New Year everybody. I think 2015 is going to be a good year.
Happy New Year guys!
Yep, that is the one. Ben, the first guy in the article is a great dude. Can't say enough good things about him. Have a pair of 14.5oz from him. Just had their first wash after a year and around 45 or so wears.
The Nama guys (third in the article) are fantastic as well. Have one of their earlier pairs. They just had their first wash after a year and about 100 wears.
Both are coming along. My one mass market pair is an Unbranded 18 oz that was made for last year's Pronto Denim Fair here in Bangkok. They too just had their first wash and the fades are coming in nicely.
For me it is jeans, a good Jersey T-Shirt in black or white, and either my Red Wing Beckmans, 8130's, or Converse. Have a couple pair of PF Flyers waiting in the US. Can't wait to get 'them over here.
Shorts are a US phenomena. I've been to 60 plus countries and grown men don't normally wear shorts. .Interesting that you used the term "grown men" in your effort to reproach the short wearers of society.
DwayneJohnson
01-01-15, 21:17
Bangkok felt like a candy land just after Phuket trip. A candy land full of SYT candy of course. I will keep this a pretty short FR as I had only few hours of freedom.
First of all Banyan tree hotel was fantastic and girlfriend chose this on purpose. It is away from almost all action. Anyway thanks to future mother in law taking her daughter for shopping got few hours of bachelorhood back. Took a cab around 3 pm to soi26 sukhumvit and rushed in to 101 premier massage. I had booked one pretty girl online for 2 hour oily session, the girl came out was shining example of power of photoshop. Anyway she was still beautiful enough but that was only thing positive about whole session. It was pretty much robotic. I tried my best to flirt with her and get her in mood using broken thai along with google translator. She opened up a bit but it wasn't enough. Oil massage was good and at par with some you might get at legit massage shop but sex was ordinary. She seemed a little sad and her silicone boobs further killed the mood. After fifteen minutes of changing positions, sex became more of a work to be finished than fun. She was not in any rush but it was me who wanted to rush to ending so asked her to perform BBBJ. Good thing was that I went back to hotel 30 minutes earlier than planned and girlfriend was happy to see me still seating in same place. I would not still write off this place as it seemed more of a personal issue with girl I booked.
Next stop patpong. I must thank my girlfriend for taking me away from Sukhumvit. Visited Bada Bing, Club electric blue, Black pagoda and really liked quality of girls present, especially at Bada Bing. BadaBing had more farangs than those likes of Baccara in cowboy. There is a reason for that, girls seemed slightly more tanned than those found in Soi Cowboy. Patpong girls seemed more flirtatious and less plastic nose, less silicon than those found in Sukhumvit. For those who love tanned beauties this could be worth a visit. These are crude generalization from one short visit so please take it with a pinch of salt. I was tired of picking up plastic barbies and never take grannies so patpong is a refreshing change. A word of caution though, pressure for lady drinks is much more than Cowboy and one should be ready to take a blow to pocket before coming instead of whining later.
After patpong gogos wanted to check out Lumpini freelancer scene so walked till lumpini park police station from lumpini MRT. I was there from 12:30 to 1:20 at night. Prices are very cheap compared to MP's,Gogo's but did not wanted to take someone decade older than me. There were 2-3 young girls but since I just had better quality girls did not really bothered taking anyone back. Overall, I would rate Climax, Thermae better venue for FLs but Lumpini is lighter on pockets (I was quoted "1 K LT for hansum man").
Visit to Emmanuelle: A lot less cute, hot sideliners than a year ago. I went here because did not had a time to go soapy hopping and had pretty good sessions in past however lot less beautiful girls than before. Picked one good looking girl, Pan (M24). She has one of the best natural boobs, not too tight – not too loose pussy and pleasant personality (along with big list of NO's). Kissing, Anal was not on menu but treat her well and few things start re-appearing on card. Really sweet girl and had good time with her. She is educated and from upper middle class family, don't really get why she is in this business but who am I to complain. Anyway it was expensive than other MP's but baht well spent considering time constraints I had. Only thing I regret is that I had planned visit to Office MP but could not manage.
Happy Mongering in 2015.
Interesting that you used the term "grown men" in your effort to reproach the short wearers of society.In Singapore, men wear shorts a lot of the time!
The BKK or general threads would be 2 possibilities.So that would be a great place to put my questions or recommendations on what to wear, which airport are better, should I wear sandals or not, and general stuff like that? -and then post reports related to mongering here in the "Bangkok Reports" thread?
Next stop patpong. I must thank my girlfriend for taking me away from Sukhumvit. Visited Bada Bing, Club electric blue, Black pagoda and really liked quality of girls present, especially at Bada Bing. BadaBing had more farangs than those likes of Baccara in cowboy. There is a reason for that, girls seemed slightly more tanned than those found in Soi Cowboy. Patpong girls seemed more flirtatious and less plastic nose, less silicon than those found in Sukhumvit. For those who love tanned beauties this could be worth a visit. These are crude generalization from one short visit so please take it with a pinch of salt. I was tired of picking up plastic barbies and never take grannies so patpong is a refreshing change. A word of caution though, pressure for lady drinks is much more than Cowboy and one should be ready to take a blow to pocket before coming instead of whining later.
Happy Mongering in 2015.You are going down the slippery slope. Is your GF really a GF or just a prostitute you like-there is a difference.
Next stop patpong. I must thank my girlfriend for taking me away from Sukhumvit. Visited Bada Bing, Club electric blue, Black pagoda and really liked quality of girls present, especially at Bada Bing. BadaBing had more farangs than those likes of Baccara in cowboy. There is a reason for that, girls seemed slightly more tanned than those found in Soi Cowboy. Patpong girls seemed more flirtatious and less plastic nose, less silicon than those found in Sukhumvit. For those who love tanned beauties this could be worth a visit. These are crude generalization from one short visit so please take it with a pinch of salt. I was tired of picking up plastic barbies and never take grannies so patpong is a refreshing change. A word of caution though, pressure for lady drinks is much more than Cowboy and one should be ready to take a blow to pocket before coming instead of whining later.
Thanks for that. I may take a look although too much pressure for lady drinks might [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off a bit quick especially is unwanted girls won't go away.
Are you sure you want to get married? Its all downhill from there. LOL I would much rather have a few long term Giks myself. If I lose current GF / wife, I don't really want a new one to put the shackles on, unless she fucks my brains out daily. Steve7777's questions are a bit out of line. I don't think should be asking any personal questions.
Amazing I got "Codeworded". I can say Fuck all I like but Piss1 is not allowed
So that would be a great place to put my questions or recommendations on what to wear, which airport are better, should I wear sandals or not, and general stuff like that? -and then post reports related to mongering here in the "Bangkok Reports" thread?Absolutely. I was thinking of trying to start a new thread. "Bangkok Reports related to Sex - Only". Then all the other general guff could be either in General or Bangkok thread if it is really Bangkok specific.
Interesting that you used the term "grown men" in your effort to reproach the short wearers of society.It's hardly reproach. In many countries throughout the world children wear shorts. Once one becomes an adult, I. E. "grown," one no longer wears them.
MichaelSamuel
01-02-15, 05:23
After a nice start at bamboo I was all set for cowboy my first night in the big mango. This was my third time in Bangkok and stayed at GCP T21 to be close to cowboy as it is my favorite and had the best luck there. Headed to shark and settled in a nice spot to watch the rotation. Was there sun – Thur. And business was definitely a bit slow. Seemed like there weren't a lot of girls closing the deal though as I saw very few bar fines. There was definitely an A and be squad in the lineups, but the A squad had a bunch of solid 7-8's and a couple 9's.
During my first visit two years ago had met a girl at shark with an awesome smile and personality who got a call from the sponsor and had to split. Last year I went back to shark and managed to find her again on my last night and had a nice ST session before heading to the airport. So I am looking for her again this year with the hope of getting better acquainted. After around 45 minutes I hadn't spotted her and wanted to do some more browsing so was about to pay my chit when I think I see her on the opposite side of the stage in the latest rotation. The poor girl facing me thought I was spying her but eventually she understood and signaled her friend. Low and behold it's the girl. I feel a bit like I just found the needle in a haystack. Didn't think it was likely she would remember me, but the odd sequence of our first meeting and then finding her again last year had created a memory and she remembered me right off. I pay her barfine and we get some drinks around cowboy before heading back to the hotel for a wonderful evening. So this where my plan goes awry. Not only does she stay she stays the next day as well. She is a real sweat heart and I have a great time tooling around Bangkok with her. Basically I end up spending pretty much my whole trip with her and have a great time, wasn't the adventure I had planned, but I was happy and after all that's why we come here right? I paid her barfine each day about she got 16 k for the time we spent together. We went by shark most nights and I bought lots of drinks for her and her friends which was making them happy and I enjoyed all the attention.
Now for the information that may be helpful to others. Shark had a solid lineup and no coyotes or scams and is still my favorite. Long gun seems to be managed by the same group as shark as my girl has a number there for her drink credits as well. Not nearly the selection as Shark, but certainly worth checking out. There were a set of tall sisters with long legs and slim figures that I was drooling over thinking about a threesome. Crazy house's shows on the 2nd floor were interesting and worth a look, but overall I wasn't impressed with the talent. However there was a dark skinned tattooed stunner there I am going to try to track down on the next trip. Last Bacarra certainly had a quality talent as well and I liked the remodel post fire a lot more than the old setup. Just felt more spacious and had better angles to view the girls. The policy of buying drinks outside only occurred one night going into Bacarra, didn't seem any different than any other night so don't know how they decide to do this or not. I did have one afternoon free that I stopped by Nataree which was good and will post on that soon.
Interesting that you used the term "grown men" in your effort to reproach the short wearers of society.Perhaps read old and inflexible ("booran") There is nothing wrong with shorts in Bangkok most of the time, but not for clubs at night. However by shorts, I don't mean something resembling pajamas or boogie board shorts. Like a good pair of pants but just cut shorter. In the very hot weather it is better not to have legs enclosed with sweat dripping down the back of your legs. Thais even encourage me to wear my nice shorts. If the weather is nice right now, shorts may not be necessary.
Is there any problem with legs exposure. I don't think so. If its a problem in visiting some royal temple, then a temporary wrap can be borrowed. I don't think wearing a singlet to show off muscles is such a great idea. At least a T-shirt with collar is preferable. Personally I don't like to wear gold chains, ear-rings, expensive watches (in fact I prefer no watch at all), but that is just me. I don't know what Thai girls think of it.
Last night Spankys was very crowded around midnight. It was hard to even get a seat. Several stunners and an overall good vibe, and the music was banging. Only downside was that the staff was very rude. Several times I was asked to move closer to the fellow sitting next to me (to sit 5 at the table that is meant for 4 people) and when I had enough I check bin'ed. When the girl went for change, another staff member came and asked if I wanted another beer, but I told her that I was just about to leave. Then she told me that I had to go now. Very rude way to treat a paying customer.
On my way home, I got a smile on my face when I was about to cross Sukhumvit. A large group of tourists were standing at the middle of the crosswalk. Even though there was a green light, they didn't dare to continue to walk because of the traffic that was just keeping on coming from Soi 3. The crowd was getting bigger and bigger, until someone got the courage to start walking.The waitstaff at Spankys are the rudest in the plaza, however they appear to not care and get away with it. I reported a similar experience last year.
Johnie.
Shorts. Good or not good-that is the question of the day.
Me- I don't care what you wear. I'm not concerned if senoir citizens are in them or nice dress slacks. Just wondering who are you trying to impress- Isarn prostitutes or Isarn men?
It would be a great ice breaker if you were to go into a disco with your Hello, kitty pajamas- I bet the girls would go with you for free.
It's hardly reproach. In many countries throughout the world children wear shorts. Once one becomes an adult, I. E. "grown," one no longer wears them.If I recall correctly, Sean Connery, as the first and best of the James Bond's, and the epitome of Scottish cool in mens fashion, dress and otherwise, occasionally wore Bermuda shorts in one or more of his great Bond flicks. If he can to it, so can you and I in the hot climate of Thailand.
Member #4611
01-02-15, 08:46
Absolutely. I was thinking of trying to start a new thread. "Bangkok Reports related to Sex - Only". Then all the other general guff could be either in General or Bangkok thread if it is really Bangkok specific.Good idea! Maybe also those who want to comment on the appropriateness of shorts can have a thread "Fashion for mongers". They may even want to extend the whole thing to a glossy mag and even create their own line.
JamesNry1982
01-02-15, 10:05
Absolutely. I was thinking of trying to start a new thread. "Bangkok Reports related to Sex - Only". Then all the other general guff could be either in General or Bangkok thread if it is really Bangkok specific.Syzygies,
I think it is a brilliant idea. Thank for the initiative.
If I recall correctly, Sean Connery, as the first and best of the James Bond's, and the epitome of Scottish cool in mens fashion, dress and otherwise, occasionally wore Bermuda shorts in one or more of his great Bond flicks. If he can to it, so can you and I in the hot climate of Thailand.Connery's shorts are more of a swim short or trunk so they are a bit too short to go out and about town. Daniel Craig as Bond also wore similar shorts in Skyfall.
Wolvenvacht
01-02-15, 12:05
Perhaps read old and inflexible ("booran") There is nothing wrong with shorts in Bangkok most of the time, but not for clubs at night. However by shorts, I don't mean something resembling pajamas or boogie board shorts. Like a good pair of pants but just cut shorter. In the very hot weather it is better not to have legs enclosed with sweat dripping down the back of your legs. Thais even encourage me to wear my nice shorts. If the weather is nice right now, shorts may not be necessary.
Is there any problem with legs exposure. I don't think so. If its a problem in visiting some royal temple, then a temporary wrap can be borrowed. I don't think wearing a singlet to show off muscles is such a great idea. At least a T-shirt with collar is preferable. Personally I don't like to wear gold chains, ear-rings, expensive watches (in fact I prefer no watch at all), but that is just me. I don't know what Thai girls think of it.Canvas boots, socks to just under your knees, shorts to just above your knees, safari shirt and "aussie" style hat with one side buttoned up and you are the epitome of the old-style colonial gentleman.
JesseJames
01-02-15, 13:03
If I recall correctly, Sean Connery, as the first and best of the James Bond's, and the epitome of Scottish cool in mens fashion, dress and otherwise, occasionally wore Bermuda shorts in one or more of his great Bond flicks. If he can to it, so can you and I in the hot climate of Thailand.That's a movie. Men wearing shorts marks you as a stupid falong tourist. Men shouldn't show their legs, unless you're gay and want to show off your shapely legs.
That's a movie. Men wearing shorts marks you as a stupid falong tourist. Men shouldn't show their legs, unless you're gay and want to show off your shapely legs.Maybe I'm a stupid falang, but I'm neither tourist nor gay, and at least I don't go around like some deluded moron trying to impress Thai hookers less than a third of my age with my clothing in the silly assed hope that they will like me and think I'm hip and cool. I can do well enough with hookers using my sparkling personality and the contents of my wallet, thank you. Beyond that my concern is being comfortable and I really don't give a shit what hookers think about the way I dress.
Canvas boots, socks to just under your knees, shorts to just above your knees, safari shirt and "aussie" style hat with one side buttoned up and you are the epitome of the old-style colonial gentleman.Aussie and gentleman in the same sentence, how about that. Shorts (to below the knee) from sun-up to sundown; Never after dark, wherever you are.
JesseJames
01-02-15, 14:37
Maybe I'm a stupid falang, but I'm neither tourist nor gay, and at least I don't go around like some deluded moron trying to impress Thai hookers less than a third of my age with my clothing in the silly assed hope that they will like me and think I'm hip and cool. I can do well enough with hookers using my sparkling personality and the contents of my wallet, thank you. Beyond that my concern is being comfortable and I really don't give a shit what hookers think about the way I dress.Hookers don't care what you're wearing. Short pants wearing falangs look like fools. If you have no self respect, fine. Walk around in a jock strap. Make a ******* of yourself.
It's hardly reproach. In many countries throughout the world children wear shorts. Once one becomes an adult, I. E. "grown," one no longer wears them.You're nuts, Phordphan. Are you from a country where men wear wigs and those fluffy shirts?
That's a movie. Men wearing shorts marks you as a stupid falong tourist. Men shouldn't show their legs, unless you're gay and want to show off your shapely legs.Well I am certainly not gay and could care less what you or others think of my handsome, uncovered, former track star legs. Geez, get a life.
Hookers don't care what you're wearing. Short pants wearing falangs look like fools. If you have no self respect, fine. Walk around in a jock strap. Make a ******* of yourself.Far better to look to the moron like a fool in shorts, than to be the deluded moron in trousers who fancies himself the sole arbiter of men's fashion in Thailand. Good luck with the hookers in your designer jeans -- moron.
Hookers don't care what you're wearing. Short pants wearing falangs look like fools. If you have no self respect, fine. Walk around in a jock strap. Make a ******* of yourself.Women prefer well dressed well groomed men. And the hookers we are interested in are women.
Paul Kausch
01-02-15, 17:01
Is there any problem with legs exposure. I don't think so. If its a problem in visiting some royal temple, then a temporary wrap can be borrowed.I went to the Grand Palace one afternoon in November. I observed a couple of guys with shorts sternly told they had to cover their legs before they could enter the Wat Phra Si Rattanasadaram.
JesseJames
01-02-15, 17:09
Far better to look to the moron like a fool in shorts, than to be the deluded moron in trousers who fancies himself the sole arbiter of men's fashion in Thailand. Good luck with the hookers in your designer jeans -- moron.I'm not the sole arbiter of wearing short pants, the entire population of Thailand is. Look like a buffoon, if you like. Give everyone a good laugh.
IllusionHeart
01-02-15, 17:30
Maybe I'm a stupid falang, but I'm neither tourist nor gay, and at least I don't go around like some deluded moron trying to impress Thai hookers less than a third of my age with my clothing in the silly assed hope that they will like me and think I'm hip and cool. I can do well enough with hookers using my sparkling personality and the contents of my wallet, thank you. Beyond that my concern is being comfortable and I really don't give a shit what hookers think about the way I dress.Thanks mate, I also feel that women here care more about the green in our pockets rather that what we wear outside. In the end majority of them are going to go to their husbands / lovers or move on to next Mr Green.
The waitstaff at Spankys are the rudest in the plaza, however they appear to not care and get away with it. I reported a similar experience last year.
Johnie.Agree. Rudest place I've ever been to in Thailand (gogo, that is). Consistently shitty. Hadn't been there in almost a year and had forgotten about this; went back last night and was immediately greeted by rude stuff being bitchy for no reason. Left and don't plan to ever return.
You're nuts, Phordphan. Are you from a country where men wear wigs and those fluffy shirts?No, I live in the slobocracy of SoCal, where you can wear shorts for practically everything. However, apparently unlike you, I have traveled to places outside the USA and the farang ghettoes of BKK. I'm hard pressed to think of any country where shorts are considered proper attire when not in a beach setting. Exceptions exist, but they are just that; exceptions.
I don't care what anybody wears, but if one dresses like farang kee nok then one should expect to be treated as such.
Paul Kausch
01-02-15, 20:29
Far better to look to the moron like a fool in shorts, than to be the deluded moron in trousers who fancies himself the sole arbiter of men's fashion in Thailand. Good luck with the hookers in your designer jeans -- moron.
Women prefer well dressed well groomed men. And the hookers we are interested in are women.The same discussions tend to resurface over and over again. How to dress in Bangkok and whether it matters is one example. I think everyone should dress as he feels comfortable, physically and socially. I'm going on 64. I don't feel comfortable dressing like a 25 year old. However, I noticed some nicely dressed mature men in Bermudas and know it is hot in the spring so am going to buy some nice shorts for my May trip.
Also, my overwhelming experience is the ladies respond favorably to smart casual attire, taking them to clubs and nice restaurants popular with Thais, and letingt them feel like they are on a real date. I do this because I enjoy doing it, and because I'm an average looking older man. I'm not going to sweep a lady off her feet with youthful good looks. But I can make a good impression by acting like a worldly older gentleman.
There are sex workers who are hardened mercenaries who only care about your money. Especially in Bangkok I've encountered many sex workers who like being out with a man who has made an effort to look good for them and treat them nicely. My experiences are a woman who has managed to retain her natural femininity is conditioned to try harder to please a man who acts like a gentleman and tries to make the evening fun for her. Woman like to dress up. The woman I do outcalls with fix up with fresh makeup and a nice sexy dress; and they smile favorably when they see I've taken the effort to shower, shave, put on a nice aftershave balm and dress nicely.
But as they ladies say, "Up to you. ".
What it all comes down to is this: wear shorts in a gogo, get a HJ. Wear pants in a gogo, get blue balls. HJ wins every time.
unless there is really nothing for tourists to see there. The later is why Jakarta is still such a great place for mongering. Unless I had a job there I would not choose to live there, as there is not a lot to do. But for gals at all price levels, it is hard to beat.Everything I hear about Jakarta is it's a horrid place relative to BKK. High HIV rate in PFP, for one.
"Let's be honest: There are some cities in the world that are worse much worse than others, cities from which a multitude would flee if offered half a chance to relocate elsewhere. Lagos comes to mind, as do Karachi, Lima, Nairobi, Cairo, Caracas, Dhaka, Jakarta, Manila. These are utterly charmless cities (such charm as there once was in a few of them has been murdered by noise, traffic, a teeming population, dirt and crime); these are edgy, aggressive and inhospitable cities, cities in which contempt for the resident is everywhere apparent, cities with few parks and sidewalks, and with scarcely any of the amenities that comprise the core of urban civilization. "
http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/02/new-york-paris-mumbai-rome-berlin-opinions-21-century-cities-09-world-class-cities.html
As for various price levels, you can find that all over the world. In generally expensive Canada I can get ladies of the street as cheap as in BKK.
Everything I hear about Jakarta is it's a horrid place relative to BKK. High HIV rate in PFP, for one.
http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/02/new-york-paris-mumbai-rome-berlin-opinions-21-century-cities-09-world-class-cities.html
As for various price levels, you can find that all over the world. In generally expensive Canada I can get ladies of the street as cheap as in BKK.You're using a 5 yr old opinion piece? I've been to Jakarta a couple of times. Not great but certainly not terrible. Try Central and South Jakarta. South Jakarta is clean, modern, wide roads, etc. Lots of moola in both Central and South. And if you're worried about HIV, use condoms.
Canadian streetwalkers? Ugh. I'm from Montreal and I live near the infamous Jarvis / Church St. Stroll in TO. You cannot pay me enough to go near those "women".
Member #4698
01-03-15, 00:01
One picture is worth a thousand words. Enough said.
To Phordphan who said No, I live in the slobocracy of SoCal endquote. Well, congratueffinlations. I 'm on the other end of the state now where we don't care what other people wear either. Obviously I have never been out of America. All of my 1000+ posts have all been about Northern California, Fix Or Repair Daily. Happy effin New Year in your pants in tropical countries. Geez.
I'm not the sole arbiter of wearing short pants, the entire population of Thailand is.IMO:
Shorts well below the knee = the style for Thai men.
Shorts at or just below the knee = borderline.
Shorts above the knee = you will stick out like a sore thumb.
None of this applies to the ladies; as their cigar-band sized shorts are always in fashion.
YMMV.
I went to the Grand Palace one afternoon in November. I observed a couple of guys with shorts sternly told they had to cover their legs before they could enter the Wat Phra Si Rattanasadaram.Naturally, it's a religious shrine. Buddha does not want to see anyone's legs.
You're using a 5 yr old opinion piece? I've been to Jakarta a couple of times. Not great but certainly not terrible. Try Central and South Jakarta. South Jakarta is clean, modern, wide roads, etc. Lots of moola in both Central and South. And if you're worried about HIV, use condoms.
Canadian streetwalkers? Ugh. I'm from Montreal and I live near the infamous Jarvis / Church St. Stroll in TO. You cannot pay me enough to go near those "women".That piece mirrors what more recent comments I've seen have generally agreed upon. Of course even the worst of the worst cities always have some areas that are better than others.
"If Jakarta want to keep the worst traffic and flood prone city in SE Asia, their business. LOL".
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/668854-jakarta-to-imitate-bangkok-to-overcome-city-problem/
"Armed robberies are reported regularly and criminals are increasingly using weapons. Petty crime, including pick pocketing, bag snatching, and forced cash withdrawals from automated banking machines (ABMs), remains a serious concern. Keep car doors locked and windows rolled up at all times. Use reputable taxis from major hotels or book in advance by phone. ".
http://travel.gc.ca/destinations/indonesia
About 20 percent of Canadian hobbyists use street walkers there. Not everyone can afford or wants to pay the generally high local prices & quite a few of the girls are stunners. They also may offer a wider menu & are much more into kissing than Bangkok ladies. I've saved myself many thousands in USD using their services.
Use condoms? I might rather stay home & wank.
Paul Kausch
01-03-15, 02:18
Naturally, it's a religious shrine. Buddha does not want to see anyone's legs.Syzygies raised the question of whether or not shorts were allowed in temples. I reported what I saw. Seems obvious to me to dress respectfully when entering a temple. I guess those two tourists thought of the Temple of the Emerald Buddha as a tourist attraction. Sometimes I marvel at how the Thais put up with us.
To Phordphan who said No, I live in the slobocracy of SoCal endquote. Well, congratueffinlations. I 'm on the other end of the state now where we don't care what other people wear either. Obviously I have never been out of America. All of my 1000+ posts have all been about Northern California, Fix Or Repair Daily. Happy effin New Year in your pants in tropical countries. Geez.I'm not sure who pissed in your cornflakes this morning, but lighten up. Feel free to wear whatever you like. Don't forget your backwards baseball cap to complete the ensemble.
But, more to the point, tropical or not, can you show a few examples, based on your 1000+ posts, of countries you've visited where shorts are the norm for adult men? I'll give you Bermuda.
Now, most of my 1600+ posts (I can play that game, too), concern activities in tropical countries, or at least hot countries. And, as I stated before, it's difficult to find a place where shorts are the norm for adult males, outside of the beach. Without getting your panties into another wad, just name a few. I'm certainly open to being educated.
BTW, that's First On Race Day. :)
IMO:
Shorts well below the knee = the style for Thai men.
Shorts at or just below the knee = borderline.
Shorts above the knee = you will stick out like a sore thumb.
None of this applies to the ladies; as their cigar-band sized shorts are always in fashion.
YMMV.Shorts above the knees = You are a 60 plus year old male of German, Austrian, or Swiss origin.
Everything I hear about Jakarta is it's a horrid place relative to BKK. High HIV rate in PFP, for one.
"Let's be honest: There are some cities in the world that are worse much worse than others, cities from which a multitude would flee if offered half a chance to relocate elsewhere. Lagos comes to mind, as do Karachi, Lima, Nairobi, Cairo, Caracas, Dhaka, Jakarta, Manila. These are utterly charmless cities (such charm as there once was in a few of them has been murdered by noise, traffic, a teeming population, dirt and crime); these are edgy, aggressive and inhospitable cities, cities in which contempt for the resident is everywhere apparent, cities with few parks and sidewalks, and with scarcely any of the amenities that comprise the core of urban civilization. "
http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/02/new-york-paris-mumbai-rome-berlin-opinions-21-century-cities-09-world-class-cities.html
As for various price levels, you can find that all over the world. In generally expensive Canada I can get ladies of the street as cheap as in BKK.Huh? Jakarta is one of the last great places for p4 p left. Good attitudes a wide variety of prices. And Indonesian chicks are great performers. But Jakarta is not a place you would want to live if you were not working there. And source? A Forbes article? Better to read about it on the Jakarta forum here or go visit yourself.
There are sex workers who are hardened mercenaries who only care about your money. Especially in Bangkok I've encountered many sex workers who like being out with a man who has made an effort to look good for them and treat them nicely. My experiences are a woman who has managed to retain her natural femininity is conditioned to try harder to please a man who acts like a gentleman and tries to make the evening fun for her. Woman like to dress up. The woman I do outcalls with fix up with fresh makeup and a nice sexy dress; and they smile favorably when they see I've taken the effort to shower, shave, put on a nice aftershave balm and dress nicely.
But as they ladies say, "Up to you. ".A friend told me something he heard from another monger years ago and I think it fits. "Its always about the money, but its not always only about the money. " That fits Thai p4 p gals to a tee.
Paul Kausch
01-03-15, 03:22
"Its always about the money, but its not always only about the money."That's great. Sums it up perfectly in a dozen and one words.
I went to the Grand Palace one afternoon in November. I observed a couple of guys with shorts sternly told they had to cover their legs before they could enter the Wat Phra Si Rattanasadaram.Unfortunately they are practising hypocrisy as the rules for Dress for Farangs are stricter than for the local Thais at the Grand Palace. A westerner could dress the same as a Thai and be considered disrespectful, where the Thai person isn't. Clear racial discrimination based on the assumption that Farangs are dirty and smelly, or perhaps purely a money making measure to force Farangs to pay a charge to borrow some shoes and socks for example. I was refused entry to whole Palace tour for wearing sandals where the locals were all wearing sandals. My sandals were "disrespectful".
Naked Gunz
01-03-15, 03:53
"Let's be honest: There are some cities in the world that are worse much worse than others, cities from which a multitude would flee if offered half a chance to relocate elsewhere.========== Nairobi, ====, Manila. These are utterly charmless cities .Charm. I don't go there for charm. I go for cheap, young pussy, not available to me in the good ole USA. Also some of the night life is quite good. I don't think these two cities are on the same level as Lagos. I would not even get off the plane in Lagos. Don't knock them till you tried them.
I'm hard pressed to think of any country where shorts are considered proper attire when not in a beach setting. Exceptions exist, but they are just that; exceptions.Then I guess Holland is one of the exceptions. Most of the Dutch don't give a shit what you're wearing.
By the way: has anyone got laid lately in Bangkok? In shorts or pants or whatever? Please post a report! Please please, LOL!
IMO:
Shorts well below the knee = the style for Thai men.
Shorts at or just below the knee = borderline.
Shorts above the knee = you will stick out like a sore thumb.
None of this applies to the ladies; as their cigar-band sized shorts are always in fashion.
YMMV.Below the knee shorts are not Shorts at all, but short pants. Starting to get silly unless needing to walk though flooded streets (LOL) where jeans are too long. Just above the knee flat material (not pleated like golfers wear) in khaki, navy, olive, stone colours are fine practical wear for everyday use in very hot weather, not too loose or baggy but a good fit, not trying to make a fashion statement at all, and not for nightclubs, merely to be acceptable. Maybe its not so widespread in Thailand as yet, and I admit to wearing shorts infrequently, but definitely on the rise and more accepted by Thais in general. I don't care what old Farangs think of it. Shorts are clearly very casual wear and must only be used with very casual shirts obviously. Nothing even slightly formal. Like would be silly with a long sleeved shirt.
Sweaty Singlets on the top are not "cool" at all. I believe this is seen as slob (Farang "khee nok") style by Thais. Thongs are also not great except for beach wear. Beech is where any type of shorts might come in.
Socks with sandals as in Natty's pic, is completely stupid. The whole point of sandals is to avoid the socks and give feet plenty of air. If your are wearing socks, you may as well wear proper shoes. I wear socks and shoes in Thailand for special occasions only (or the office if I had one - but I work from home). Its just too hot for socks.
In the end you have to ask yourself the question, "Am I trying to feel comfortable, or who am I trying to impress?" This will govern your decision.
The same discussions tend to resurface over and over again. How to dress in Bangkok and whether it matters is one example. I think everyone should dress as he feels comfortable, physically and socially. If a farang is coming to Thailand to do business, or visit temples and palaces, go to gentlemen's clubs, nightclubs, high class restaurants with wives or pricy escorts, and such; by all means do bring and wear your business suits, designer slacks, long sleeved silk shirts and ties, together with your Rolex watches and other expensive gold and silver bling. You'll feel comfortable and fit right in. No one will think you a fool. Don't bother to bring any shorts. Don't wear shorts. If you do, you won't fit in and will likely be thought of as a fool.
I'm certainly no stranger to formal wear. For many years my professional activities obliged me to wear a business suit, long sleeved dress shirt and tie every weekday. No, I never dressed casual nor ever wore shorts to my office or in the courtroom. I dressed according to the requirements of the situation and that's exactly what farangs should do in Thailand.
Today, I've been essentially retired from the profession during the last 19 years, and living in Thailand for the last 7 years in the resort area of Jomtien and Pattaya. I don't even own a single business suit today. I brought some pairs of slacks and a few long sleeved shirts from the USA but almost never wear them here. There's no need. I don't do business, visit temples, or eat at high class restaurants, frequent gentlemen's clubs or nightclubs. That's not my thing.
It's usually hotter than Hell in Thailand day and night. If you go to Thailand to monger in Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, or Patpong in Bangkok; Walking Street, Beach Road or Soi LK Metro in Pattaya; if you want to visit the brothels, Go-Go bars, beer bars, and pick up SW's; if you want to go to massage shops, and soapies any time, day or night; eat at most restaurants and street vendor carts; do almost any activity at all, you should feel most comfortable dressing casual, usually in shorts, short sleeved shirt, t-shirt and sandals or sneakers. No one will think you a fool except perhaps some snobby morons who insist that grown men never wear shorts except to the beach.
Always remember that you are a farang and will always be a farang in Thailand whether you are a tourist or a long term expat who speaks Thai fluently. You will never ever be accepted as a Thai. The Thai people expect farangs to be farangs, dress like farangs; and foreigners to dress like foreigners. So if you wear a turban, for example in your country, no Thai will think you a fool for wearing it here.
No girl who works at a soapy or oily massage shop is going to think you a fool for walking through the door wearing a pair of clean shorts, a t-shirt and sandals. After all, you're going to be stripped naked, your clothes piled in a heap, within the first 5 minutes after you arrive; likewise with bar girls and every other kind of hooker. They will certainly like you if you have money; are clean, pleasant, smell good, well groomed and neatly dressed in casual apparel, including shorts and sandals, just as much they might like the anal retentive moron who never wears shorts even when the weather is scorching hot and the sweat drenching his entire body.
Take it from Daddy; that's how most farangs should dress in the land of smiles.
Always remember that you are a farang and will always be a farang in Thailand whether you are a tourist or a long term expat who speaks Thai fluently. You will never ever be accepted as a Thai. The Thai people expect farangs to be farangs, dress like farangs; and foreigners to dress like foreigners. So if you wear a turban, for example in your country, no Thai will think you a fool for wearing it here.
Well said. We can be influenced by Thais to try to be cool and have better manners, but in the end we are still Farang. Just that we don't need to be the very worst Farang: arrogant, aggressive, sloppy and stinky.
Being clean and polite is going to be rated far higher than being in top fashion. I don't want to waste money buying the latest fashions each year. I use clothes now till they wear out. I also don't wear suits and ties anymore even though I work in a European country. Dress expectations are quite relaxed and casual in Europe, as others have noted.
No, I live in the slobocracy of SoCal, where you can wear shorts for practically everything. However, apparently unlike you, I have traveled to places outside the USA and the farang ghettoes of BKK. I'm hard pressed to think of any country where shorts are considered proper attire when not in a beach setting. Exceptions exist, but they are just that; exceptions.
I don't care what anybody wears, but if one dresses like farang kee nok then one should expect to be treated as such.Take a look at a map of the world. There's a large island just south of Asia. It has "Australia" written on it.
Huh? Jakarta is one of the last great places for p4 p left. Good attitudes a wide variety of prices. And Indonesian chicks are great performers. But Jakarta is not a place you would want to live if you were not working there. And source? A Forbes article? Better to read about it on the Jakarta forum here or go visit yourself.What's so great about it? The only Indo chick I ever met was in Singapore, her attitude was awful, service lousy, just average looking & didn't speak a word of English.
Every source I've seen about Jakarta says the same as the article, including a bunch of recent comments on a well known Thai visa forum. Even if the PFP there was half way decent, the city itself is pathetic, a nightmare & a dump.
For the same reasons I'd never set foot in AC or Manila, if anywhere in the PI. Bangkok is far superior.
No girl who works at a soapy or oily massage shop is going to think you a fool for walking through the door wearing a pair of clean shorts, a t-shirt and sandals. After all, you're going to be stripped naked, your clothes piled in a heap, within the first 5 minutes after you arrive; likewise with bar girls and every other kind of hooker. They will certainly like you if you have money; are clean, pleasant, smell good, well groomed and neatly dressed in casual apparel, including shorts and sandals, just as much they might like the anal retentive moron who never wears shorts even when the weather is scorching hot and the sweat drenching his entire body.
Take it from Daddy; that's how most farangs should dress in the land of smiles.I find it easy to dress nicely, as in not wearing shorts but pants as Thais generally do, and not get sweaty & stink. Thailand has cheap air conditioned taxis & mass transit to get you where you're going smelling clean & fresh. There's really no excuse.
Even with shorts you are going to sweat if you're out in the heat for long enough, so you might as well dress in a manner that is respected, respectful & improves your odds with the ladies.
Even the male Thais often compliment me on dressing as they do. But never once has that occurred when I was wearing shorts.
Take it from Pinkpearl; that's the truth & how you should dress in Siam.
If you are concerned about stench, I suggest you do as Brad Pitt & invest in some Chanel number 5.
Wolvenvacht
01-03-15, 09:37
Hookers don't care what you're wearing. Short pants wearing falangs look like fools. If you have no self respect, fine. Walk around in a jock strap. Make a ******* of yourself.A jockstrap? Now there's an idea. I'd do it if it was not I'd have too much trouble avoiding the LBs trying to pinch my shapely butt. ;)
Feel free to wear whatever you like.So kind of you to give me your permission, P. [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), I mean peace, out.
Traveler1234
01-03-15, 15:59
What's so great about it? The only Indo chick I ever met was in Singapore, her attitude was awful, service lousy, just average looking & didn't speak a word of English.
I don't visit as often as these days but have lived there years back for several years and know just a smattering of Bahasa. Great experience!
Jakarta is a haven for P4 P but agree much nicer to live in Bkk. Unlike LOS, local ceweks luv bule meat. Not sure what sources you're relying, maybe you should visit one day. As usual, YMMV.
Eric Swiss
01-03-15, 16:55
As I'm usually on the go-go bar scene, I decided to try the FreeLancers in a night club for a change. I've had good experiences at Insomina in Pattaya before, but never ventured down such venues in Bangkok.
I went to Climax pretty late, after warming up on Soi Cowboy. There was one Coyote in Tilac whose ass was amazing. The way she moved it, man! At some point I couldn't hold it anymore and physically moved from my seat a few yards away to the one directly underneath her chrome pole. She was litterally shaking her money-maker a few inches from my face. Other farangs next to me were looking at me weird, but when you're hypnotized there is nothing you can do about it. After a while my beer bottle was empty so I asked for the check-bin and just left.
As I was walking into Climax some time after 2 am, suitably warmed up by the Tilac coyote episode, I locked eyes with a girl and she said: "Did I see you before?" Of course I lied and said yes. She asked where, and I improvised: "Dancing over there", pointing in a vague direction. I figured that statistically it was a safe bet. We started talking, she did some dirty dancing with me. The way she rubbed herself against me made her look like a real working girl, not one of those amateurs who have a proper day job.
After a while, I suggested we go out to a hotel together, and she asked: "You pay me?" Of course I replied in the affirmative. A lengthy pause made me realize that it was my turn to make things more precise, so I asked how much. We agreed on a price and off we went.
Now here's a question for you experienced gentlemen: is there a good short-time hotel within walking distance of Climax? Ideally with a safe and clean-looking. Near Nana Plaza I know the FreeLancers have good addresses, but this girl seemed a bit lost when I told her I wasn't willing to take her back to my hotel. Eventually she found a place but it was far, expensive and somewhat dodgy.
In the taxi on the way, she blurted out of the blue: "You say you've seen me before, then why I didn't seen you?" Oh darn, my opening lie was coming back to haunt me! Should I admit I'd just bullshitted in order to open the conversation with her? No way: I just brazened it out and told her: "Because I'm wearing black. " Obviously that would not make any sense to any normal human being. But she looked me up and down and was satisfied that I was a good-enough liar for her taste. Sometimes a blatant lie, if delivered smoothly enough, is better than the truth.
There must have been something about my bald-faced lying abilities that turned her on, because she gave me a very long and enthusiastic performance, similar to the Ding I reviewed a few days ago. Lots of kissing and intimacy. I walked out of there not knowing what hit me, a typhoon or a tornado.
By the way, I don't want you guys to think I only have great experiences with the working girls, because between Ding from Mandarin and the girl from Climax, I barfined a chick with big tits from Rainbow 4 in Nana named June and that was crap.
Conclusion is: even though this is a new experience for me in Bangkok, I think I will start patronizing discos with FreeLancers, at least after 2 am, because the talent is strong.
As I'm usually on the go-go bar scene, I decided to try the FreeLancers in a night club for a change. I've had good experiences at Insomina in Pattaya before, but never ventured down such venues in Bangkok.
I went to Climax pretty late, after warming up on Soi Cowboy. There was one Coyote in Tilac whose ass was amazing. The way she moved it, man! At some point I couldn't hold it anymore and physically moved from my seat a few yards away to the one directly underneath her chrome pole. She was litterally shaking her money-maker a few inches from my face. Other farangs next to me were looking at me weird, but when you're hypnotized there is nothing you can do about it. After a while my beer bottle was empty so I asked for the check-bin and just left.
As I was walking into Climax some time after 2 am, suitably warmed up by the Tilac coyote episode, I locked eyes with a girl and she said: "Did I see you before?" Of course I lied and said yes. She asked where, and I improvised: "Dancing over there", pointing in a vague direction. I figured that statistically it was a safe bet. We started talking, she did some dirty dancing with me...But the most important question what all are thinking, what did you wear?
You're using a 5 yr old opinion piece? I've been to Jakarta a couple of times. Not great but certainly not terrible. Try Central and South Jakarta. South Jakarta is clean, modern, wide roads, etc. Lots of moola in both Central and South. And if you're worried about HIV, use condoms.
Canadian streetwalkers? Ugh. I'm from Montreal and I live near the infamous Jarvis / Church St. Stroll in TO. You cannot pay me enough to go near those "women".Wow you live arond that cabbage town? Place has been gentrifying. Hooka harvee's? LOL, any sw there now? Was dead one night I passed on Sept. No one.
I had a beautifal blonde SW almost 10 years ago, I couldn't believe nmy eyes as she stood out from allthe rest by a mile. By a mile. Like model pretty but not runway thin. And she was so sweet sweet and not hardened with any attitude it was unreal.
Everything I hear about Jakarta is it's a horrid place relative to BKK. High HIV rate in PFP, for one.
"Let's be honest: There are some cities in the world that are worse much worse than others, cities from which a multitude would flee if offered half a chance to relocate elsewhere. Lagos comes to mind, as do Karachi, Lima, Nairobi, Cairo, Caracas, Dhaka, Jakarta, Manila. These are utterly charmless cities (such charm as there once was in a few of them has been murdered by noise, traffic, a teeming population, dirt and crime); these are edgy, aggressive and inhospitable cities, cities in which contempt for the resident is everywhere apparent, cities with few parks and sidewalks, and with scarcely any of the amenities that comprise the core of urban civilization. "
http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/02/new-york-paris-mumbai-rome-berlin-opinions-21-century-cities-09-world-class-cities.html
As for various price levels, you can find that all over the world. In generally expensive Canada I can get ladies of the street as cheap as in BKK.Yikes hope you don't mean the sw that no one would touch?
Bangkok felt like a candy land just after Phuket trip. A candy land full of SYT candy of course. I will keep this a pretty short FR as I had only few hours of freedom.
First of all Banyan tree hotel was fantastic and girlfriend chose this on purpose. It is away from almost all action. Anyway thanks to future mother in law taking her daughter for shopping got few hours of bachelorhood back. Took a cab around 3 pm to soi26 sukhumvit and rushed in to 101 premier massage. I had booked one pretty girl online for 2 hour oily session, the girl came out was shining example of power of photoshop. Anyway she was still beautiful enough but that was only thing positive about whole session. It was pretty much robotic. I tried my best to flirt with her and get her in mood using broken thai along with google translator. She opened up a bit but it wasn't enough. Oil massage was good and at par with some you might get at legit massage shop but sex was ordinary. She seemed a little sad and her silicone boobs further killed the mood. After fifteen minutes of changing positions, sex became more of a work to be finished than fun. She was not in any rush but it was me who wanted to rush to ending so asked her to perform BBBJ. Good thing was that I went back to hotel 30 minutes earlier than planned and girlfriend was happy to see me still seating in same place. I would not still write off this place as it seemed more of a personal issue with girl I booked.
Next stop patpong. I must thank my girlfriend for taking me away from Sukhumvit. Visited Bada Bing, Club electric blue, Black pagoda and really liked quality of girls present, especially at Bada Bing. BadaBing had more farangs than those likes of Baccara in cowboy. There is a reason for that, girls seemed slightly more tanned than those found in Soi Cowboy. Patpong girls seemed more flirtatious and less plastic nose, less silicon than those found in Sukhumvit. For those who love tanned beauties this could be worth a visit. These are crude generalization from one short visit so please take it with a pinch of salt. I was tired of picking up plastic barbies and never take grannies so patpong is a refreshing change. A word of caution though, pressure for lady drinks is much more than Cowboy and one should be ready to take a blow to pocket before coming instead of whining later.
After patpong gogos wanted to check out Lumpini freelancer scene so walked till lumpini park police station from lumpini MRT. I was there from 12:30 to 1:20 at night. Prices are very cheap compared to MP's,Gogo's but did not wanted to take someone decade older than me. There were 2-3 young girls but since I just had better quality girls did not really bothered taking anyone back. Overall, I would rate Climax, Thermae better venue for FLs but Lumpini is lighter on pockets (I was quoted "1 K LT for hansum man").
Visit to Emmanuelle: A lot less cute, hot sideliners than a year ago. I went here because did not had a time to go soapy hopping and had pretty good sessions in past however lot less beautiful girls than before. Picked one good looking girl, Pan (M24). She has one of the best natural boobs, not too tight not too loose pussy and pleasant personality (along with big list of NO's). Kissing, Anal was not on menu but treat her well and few things start re-appearing on card. Really sweet girl and had good time with her. She is educated and from upper middle class family, don't really get why she is in this business but who am I to complain. Anyway it was expensive than other MP's but baht well spent considering time constraints I had. Only thing I regret is that I had planned visit to Office MP but could not manage.
Happy Mongering in 2015.Wow you accomplished a heck of alot! LOL, I do say all the photos at the 101 site look post edited. All skin tones softened out, age lines blemishesmassaged away.
"Tailor on Ten" (http://www.tailoronten.com/), definitely. But don't expect your suit to be ready in 24 hours as a good suit will need at least 2 fittings. Think about 5 days. You will pay the price of a good (non-bespoke) suit in Europe, but of course this one will be fully made-to-measure.
They also have the best shirts I've ever seen: solid quality and fully customizable down to the last detail.Where are his fabrics sourced from though? His workmanship is local thai I guess but the dressshirt fabrics, pinpoint, broadcloath etc are from where? His suits, the wool are from where, Italy? Zegna fabrics?
Yep, I know who you are talking about. I have been to their shop. Ok, but I would probable go with a different shop. A Canadian guy, Ben Viapiana, does really good work. Also Nama Denim in T21 on the men's floor makes some great jeans. I have jeans from both and am very happy. Ben takes about 2 weeks. Once you get a great pair made of Japanese selvedge you will be a convert. I would suggest about a 15 oz fabric to start with. PM me next time you are in town and I can direct you to Ben's.Ben just imports japanese made selvedge and then hones his own jeans? How much? Ready made brand name selvedge is mostly? Around 180-250 ISG usd, but part of it is due to the made in Japan labor and fashion brand.
I don't wear denim jeans in Bangkok - too hot. I have several pair of summer twill jeans in various colors for casual wear. I see a lot of cargo pants worn in Bangkok. I've read pick pockets love guys who wear cargo pants. I think Bangkok is a pretty safe city. Still, I wouldn't wear a $2K watch walking the sidewalks at night. I wear a Citizen watch I paid a couple hundred for when I travel.What to wear topics come and go like the wind in the weather, I welcome them personally when they appear, as we can talk about trends and likes / drawing from culture to movies to anything.
Haha, I suspected that cargo pants are everywhere in thailand. I don't even own a pair ever, but always wanted one not for travelling times but just for some weekends. I'd actually hesitate to wear them in BKK as well regardless.
I do believe that PickPokcets in general eye the Cargo pants wearer. any pants with the baggy canvas look and thigh puff pockets, and those stretch waistbands.
What I've decided is to get a pair of pants from rohan (UK) and another from an american make, both of which will be entirely officelike, but performance fabrics, and has no cargo pant look LOL, yet has secret pockets.
I'll look into a basic g-shock casio then as far as watches go.
Sukumvit would be my homebase (hotel) for 5 nights, is it worth any to trek to Pattaya for that location's nightlife, or just stick with all the scene in Nana and Soi and dont bother w/ Pattay except for a day at the beach?
asking cuz is it not a 2 hour taxi ride (sigh) to go from sukumvit to pattaya.... which is the closest beach away eh?
Every source I've seen about Jakarta says the same as the article, including a bunch of recent comments on a well known Thai visa forum. Even if the PFP there was half way decent, the city itself is pathetic, a nightmare & a dump.
After spending the last week in Indonesia, I couldn't agree more. You've hit the nail right on the head.
Jakarta itself is a dump, with the best attraction being the road to the airport on the way out. The women are just so so, and certainly not to my taste. The food is disappointing and not up to the enjoyable standards of other S. E. A. Countries. I'm sure others will beg to differ though.
Wolvenvacht
01-04-15, 01:33
Sukumvit would be my homebase (hotel) for 5 nights, is it worth any to trek to Pattaya for that location's nightlife, or just stick with all the scene in Nana and Soi and dont bother w/ Pattay You will not get bored by Bangkok in a mere 5 days. Going to Pattaya for a few days is a waste of time, IMHO. It takes a few days to get to "know" the place. Splitting 5 days between Bangkok and Pattaya will not get you "into the place" for either location.
except for a day at the beach?
asking cuz is it not a 2 hour taxi ride (sigh) to go from sukumvit to pattaya.... which is the closest beach away eh?If it is only the beach you want then go to Bangsaen, as many people from Bangkok do. About one hour driving from the airport (a bit more from the center of Bangkok, depending on the traffic). It is halfway between Bangkok and Pattaya and the beach is much nicer.
After spending the last week in Indonesia, I couldn't agree more. You've hit the nail right on the head.
Jakarta itself is a dump, with the best attraction being the road to the airport on the way out. The women are just so so, and certainly not to my taste. The food is disappointing and not up to the enjoyable standards of other S. E. A. Countries. I'm sure others will beg to differ though.I would agree with everything but your statement about the women. I find they are adventuresome, many have true hourglass figures, and they are much "nastier" as a rule than Thai chicks. Most are monotheistic. Sex is still "dirty" so that makes it more fun. I have never had an Indo gal come out of the shower in a towel and play the shy routine. In fact, usually there is no shower. You hit the room and are at it.
Ben just imports japanese made selvedge and then hones his own jeans? How much? Ready made brand name selvedge is mostly? Around 180-250 ISG usd, but part of it is due to the made in Japan labor and fashion brand.Yep, that is what he does. You can check him out on FB and he also has a website. www.viapiana.ca. Pair will run you under 200 USD.
Eric Swiss
01-04-15, 03:42
But the most important question what all are thinking, what did you wear?Cowboy boots, brown leather.
Blue jeans from a renowned designer brand in America. Tight-fitting. Dark blue, not too faded. No rips / holes.
Dark brown leather belt with the well-worn look to match my shoes.
Black underwear with big logo from a well-known European fashion designer brand.
Black polo top from a different European designer.
Perfume: a nice American Cologne.
Just before heading out, I spent half an hour in the shower room, shaving, shampoo, brushing my teeth, scraping my tongue, trimming my nostrils, etc.
No helmet on the moto-taxi on my way to Climax because it ruins my hair style.
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The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
Jakarta itself is a dump, with the best attraction being the road to the airport on the way out. The women are just so so, and certainly not to my taste. The food is disappointing and not up to the enjoyable standards of other S. E. A. Countries. I'm sure others will beg to differ though.Jakarta is generally a dump, with that I agree. However, I tend to prefer Indonesian women to Thai, much for the same reasons as given by Goatscrot. And although this is a matter of personal taste, I prefer good Indonesian food to good Thai food, although prefer both to most western food. But Bangkok is a world-class city and Jakarta is not, so it stands to reason the food options are much greater in Bangkok, particularly for the casual visitor who hasn't learned the terrain in much detail.
You will not get bored by Bangkok in a mere 5 days. Going to Pattaya for a few days is a waste of time, IMHO. It takes a few days to get to "know" the place. Splitting 5 days between Bangkok and Pattaya will not get you "into the place" for either location.
If it is only the beach you want then go to Bangsaen, as many people from Bangkok do. About one hour driving from the airport (a bit more from the center of Bangkok, depending on the traffic). It is halfway between Bangkok and Pattaya and the beach is much nicer.Outstanding, thankyou. That is what I wanted to know. I'm looking for reasons not to bother wasting the roundtrip time to pattaya for possibly just one beach day. I'm not concerned much about spending all my days in bbk actually.
Any further suggestions about this beach?
I do think of going to the beach on a weekday, less crowds. Maybe going by noon, via taxi, stay until sunset to catch that, then taxi back to sukumvit?
Any notable eats at bansaen? Massages avail at the beach under an umbrella?
Wolvenvacht
01-04-15, 10:57
Outstanding, thankyou. That is what I wanted to know. I'm looking for reasons not to bother wasting the roundtrip time to pattaya for possibly just one beach day. I'm not concerned much about spending all my days in bbk actually.
Any further suggestions about this beach?
I do think of going to the beach on a weekday, less crowds. Maybe going by noon, via taxi, stay until sunset to catch that, then taxi back to sukumvit?
Any notable eats at bansaen? Massages avail at the beach under an umbrella?Any part of the beach at Bangsaen Beach is OK. Just tell the taxi to go to beach road and get out at the Beach Road Monument (https://www.google.be/maps/place/Wongwian+Bang+Saen/@13.283804,100.915678,2a,90y,90t/data=!3m5!1e2!3m3!1s47110677!2e1!3e10!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x3102b4ba2b345035:0x34fd05894f39415e!2sBang+Saen+Beach!3b1!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xff37d867d15dfd5a!6m1!1e1?hl=nl).
You can rent a beach chair for 50 baht for the whole day and there are lots of food stands on beach road, with delicious seafood.
I haven't seen any massages being given at the beach and certainly during the week when it is more quiet I doubt if there will be any.
Warning: there are not many taxis in Bangsaen to bring you back to Bangkok in the evening, so you better book the taxi that brought you to bangsaen to bring you back.
Outstanding, thankyou. That is what I wanted to know. I'm looking for reasons not to bother wasting the roundtrip time to pattaya for possibly just one beach day. I'm not concerned much about spending all my days in bbk actually.
Any further suggestions about this beach?
I do think of going to the beach on a weekday, less crowds. Maybe going by noon, via taxi, stay until sunset to catch that, then taxi back to sukumvit?
Any notable eats at bansaen? Massages avail at the beach under an umbrella?I have never seen a beach massage at Bangsaen beach. And don't expect pristine beaches either. But if you are there and feel like having a massage then I can recommend 2 places close by Bangsaen beach Road: the first one is the Samutra Spa and salon. It is part of the Tide Resort on Beach Road, but expensive compared to any beach massage at any beach in Thaland. Use google "Bangsaen Samutra" for more details. The other one I can recommend is a very good massage shop at the roundabout (aka Bangsaen Monument). That shop is on the same block as the 7/11-shop. In both cases: strictly legit.
And take Wolvenvacht's advise on taxis.
Outstanding, thankyou. That is what I wanted to know. I'm looking for reasons not to bother wasting the roundtrip time to pattaya for possibly just one beach day. I'm not concerned much about spending all my days in bbk actually.
Any further suggestions about this beach?
I do think of going to the beach on a weekday, less crowds. Maybe going by noon, via taxi, stay until sunset to catch that, then taxi back to sukumvit?
Any notable eats at bansaen? Massages avail at the beach under an umbrella?If someone into the pure beach views and planning to be around bkk city than certainly Pataya should not be the good choice. Even Jomtien beach also not to be adaptable for my liking.
I think Chaam and Bangsaen beach could be the best bet for the beach lovers. Not even polluted same as Pattaya adulteries, but available in limited collections.
I was there with my GF, so unable to direct exact findings. But I had seen cluster of bars and ladies, as well as massage both the places.
To arrive these places riding a taxi is most easiest way. But for me I always prefer buses for long drive in Thailand. For a long drive, I am a faint hearted one for riding the taxies in Thailand. I had a bitter experience to be.
Buses are available for Bangsaen beach from Ekkami. Ride the Chonburi bus and be confirmed about the bus stoppage where to get down, since I forget the stoppage name. Sure it is not the last end of the ride. Then take a Tuk Tuk to the beach. Anyone can find that easily. There are lots of hotels and resorts all along the beach road as someone like.
The pic of PDF format is from chaam beach and the kids playing with sand are from Bangsaen beach.
Yikes hope you don't mean the sw that no one would touch?Polls reveal that about 20 percent of Canadian punters visit ladies of the street there. I'd guess somewhat less for foreign hobbyists in Bangkok & Americans in the USA. Look at all the threads dedicated to the street scene in the USA forums. A number of cities have their own thread with street scene in the titles.
In Vancouver, like in Bangkok, I've consistently found very attractive or stunning ladies there. Due to the low prices relative to the rest of the sex industry in each country, I've saved many thousands in USD by taking my business there for 10 years of frequent action.
Paul Kausch
01-04-15, 20:08
The latest Stickman Weekly reports that #50 at Crazy House won the most often BFed award. She had 165 BFs over the last three months. Very few were repeat customers. What does that tell you?
Hey Syzygies, do you know who she is? Does she have silly titties and a modified face?
I have never been to AC but wondering if it should be explored. Are average working girls there have.
1. Better looks.
2. Bigger boobs.
As compared to average working girls in Bangkok (Soapies / FLs).
The latest Stickman Weekly reports that #50 at Crazy House won the most often BFed award. She had 165 BFs over the last three months. Very few were repeat customers. What does that tell you?
Hey Syzygies, do you know who she is? Does she have silly titties and a modified face?This was my #50 back in May of last year, I repeated with her and she was much better the second time around. Killer body but service was pretty average, she'd want to quit the BJ but I'd just say 'yes' and she'd go back to work.
I have never been to AC but wondering if it should be explored. Are average working girls there have.
1. Better looks.
2. Bigger boobs.
As compared to average working girls in Bangkok (Soapies / FLs).No and No.
Dark thin and small tits and last but not least un-sightly is what PI has to offer in droves.
You can find that also in droves in Thailand. Only advantage PI has is girls speak decent English.
The latest Stickman Weekly reports that #50 at Crazy House won the most often BFed award. She had 165 BFs over the last three months. Very few were repeat customers. What does that tell you?
Hey Syzygies, do you know who she is? Does she have silly titties and a modified face?Is it an industry award? Or just A CH award?
I got to believe MOJI gets way more than 165 every 90 days. Although I haven't seen much of her lately.
Being an Indian I was wondering how we are treated in Bangkok MP. Do Thai women treat us like Africans or Westerners or do we have a classification of our own.
She have a quite big tattoo on her back. I remember I take her on the first night of the BKK shutdown (Jan. 14 2014) and she go home very late in the afternoon.
Later a drink service lady told me at that time she was the top scorer in ST's, but mostly never had repeat customers.
And I can relate to that. Face is attractive, body too, but service wasn't that good. Although I visit CH regularly that time I never thought of barfining her again.
In the bar she have some kind of arrogance over her! You like that attitude or you hate it.
I know her name, but will not tell because of some privacy.
She was solely in it for the money and told me she had a very young farang BF (not living in Thailand).
The latest Stickman Weekly reports that #50 at Crazy House won the most often BFed award. She had 165 BFs over the last three months. Very few were repeat customers. What does that tell you?
Hey Syzygies, do you know who she is? Does she have silly titties and a modified face?
Paul Kausch
01-05-15, 13:54
Is it an industry award? Or just A CH award?
I got to believe MOJI gets way more than 165 every 90 days. Although I haven't seen much of her lately.It was a CH award. Assuming a 6 day work week, which may not be accurate, 6 times 13 weeks in a quarter equals 78, so that is an average of 2.11 a day. I bet there are more than a few girls, including Moojie, who top that.
I have never been to AC but wondering if it should be explored. Are average working girls there have.
1. Better looks.
2. Bigger boobs.
As compared to average working girls in Bangkok (Soapies / FLs).Yes you should explore AC (and the rest of the PI). On average they don't have better looks, they are just a little bit different.
And I think they have slightly bigger boobs on average but quite a lot of them have really very beautiful boobs. Must be their Spanish heritage.
I have never been to AC but wondering if it should be explored. Are average working girls there have.
1. Better looks.
2. Bigger boobs.
As compared to average working girls in Bangkok (Soapies / FLs).When it comes to the quality of the girls in go-go's I would say Bangkok is the winner. Much more eye candy in Bangkok in my experience. PI girls speak very good English and they tend to be more playful than most Thai girls. The GFE factor is really high. AC bargirls mostly come from very poor conditions in the province. They share room with maybe 10 other girls in their boarding house (I have been to several.) and I must admit that sometimes I wonder how they are able to smile and be happy when they live in such conditions and have to send their hard-earn money back to their parents. You can find a "diamond in the ruff" in many bars in AC and they are as beautiful as in Thailand. But they are different; I think you will understand when you go there. Another difference is that PI girls are basically looking for a boyfriend / husband. Someone to take them away from the bar. That is why some of them can be hard to get rid of if they like you! So be careful. Thai girls are more after the money only. In my opinion.
AC is like going to the Wild West, so it can not be compared to Bangkok at all. AC is really a dump and there is nothing to do there during daytime. If you do not like shopping. Be careful in Philippines, it is actually more dangerous than you think. Some people carry guns and seems to be more and more desperate as the social differences widens. Desperate times sometimes lead to desperate actions. Never carry valuables or even suggest that you are wealthy. The men in PI is much more "macho" than Thai men, so stay out of trouble. The police is corrupt and is a pain in the ass also for the bar owners in AC. I would suggest to try out AC for a few days and also go to Olongapo / Subic Bay (Barrio Baretto). It is only an hour away and has a nice beach and some go-go's as well. You will have a good time in both places if you treat everybody nice and offer a smile! But Bangkok is a completely different world compared to Angeles City.
Yes you should explore AC (and the rest of the PI). On average they don't have better looks, they are just a little bit different.
And I think they have slightly bigger boobs on average but quite a lot of them have really very beautiful boobs. Must be their Spanish heritage.How easy is it to reach compared to Bangkok and Pattaya?
TempStories
01-05-15, 19:10
You are treated like a regular Asian, not as wealthy as Japanese or farangs.
Being an Indian I was wondering how we are treated in Bangkok MP. Do Thai women treat us like Africans or Westerners or do we have a classification of our own.
TempStories
01-05-15, 19:12
Any recommendations for MP in Patpong? I am in BKK during 10 am-2 pm time in Feb. I am wondering if I should try Patpong MPs this time. Are they open this early? How do they compare to ones like Bamboo, Cherry, Snowwhite etc?
Wrong place but will answer in any case. There are flights into Manila and Clark air field (AC) from different airlines. Try air asia, Cebu pacific, or Tiger. Into Manila most major airlines will get you there. This is from Bangkok. About 3 hours. From Bangkok tourist area, Sukhumvet to Pattaya is about 1 1/2 hours depending on traffic. Same from Manila to AC.
No and No.
Dark thin and small tits and last but not least un-sightly is what PI has to offer in droves.
You can find that also in droves in Thailand. Only advantage PI has is girls speak decent English.How much time have you spent in the PI, Stevie Wonder? And, are you related to Phordphan?
MichaelSamuel
01-05-15, 21:35
This was my #50 back in May of last year, I repeated with her and she was much better the second time around. Killer body but service was pretty average, she'd want to quit the BJ but I'd just say 'yes' and she'd go back to work.Yep. That's her. I can tell from that photo she is the hottie I mentioned in my post that I wanted to track down next week. She was definitely still working in November. Going to rethink my previous urge to look her up next week. Funny thing is the few nights I was in CH I never saw her get barfined.
When it comes to the quality of the girls in go-go's I would say Bangkok is the winner. Much more eye candy in Bangkok in my experience. PI girls speak very good English and they tend to be more playful than most Thai girls. The GFE factor is really high. AC bargirls mostly come from very poor conditions in the province. They share room with maybe 10 other girls in their boarding house (I have been to several.) and I must admit that sometimes I wonder how they are able to smile and be happy when they live in such conditions and have to send their hard-earn money back to their parents. You can find a "diamond in the ruff" in many bars in AC and they are as beautiful as in Thailand. But they are different; I think you will understand when you go there. Another difference is that PI girls are basically looking for a boyfriend / husband. Someone to take them away from the bar. That is why some of them can be hard to get rid of if they like you! So be careful. Thai girls are more after the money only. In my opinion.
AC is like going to the Wild West, so it can not be compared to Bangkok at all. AC is really a dump and there is nothing to do there during daytime. If you do not like shopping. Be careful in Philippines, it is actually more dangerous than you think. Some people carry guns and seems to be more and more desperate as the social differences widens. Desperate times sometimes lead to desperate actions. Never carry valuables or even suggest that you are wealthy. The men in PI is much more "macho" than Thai men, so stay out of trouble. The police is corrupt and is a pain in the ass also for the bar owners in AC. I would suggest to try out AC for a few days and also go to Olongapo / Subic Bay (Barrio Baretto). It is only an hour away and has a nice beach and some go-go's as well. You will have a good time in both places if you treat everybody nice and offer a smile! But Bangkok is a completely different world compared to Angeles City.I totally agree give me Bangkok, Havana, or Medellin any day of the week over the Phillipines.
No and No.
Dark thin and small tits and last but not least un-sightly is what PI has to offer in droves.
You can find that also in droves in Thailand. Only advantage PI has is girls speak decent English.O boy, looks like it is worth trying once and that's it.
Yes you should explore AC (and the rest of the PI). On average they don't have better looks, they are just a little bit different.
And I think they have slightly bigger boobs on average but quite a lot of them have really very beautiful boobs. Must be their Spanish heritage.Yes our upbringing defines who we are so I guess it is a different culture. Won't hurt to try once.
When it comes to the quality of the girls in go-go's I would say Bangkok is the winner. Much more eye candy in Bangkok in my experience. PI girls speak very good English and they tend to be more playful than most Thai girls. The GFE factor is really high. AC bargirls mostly come from very poor conditions in the province. They share room with maybe 10 other girls in their boarding house (I have been to several.) and I must admit that sometimes I wonder how they are able to smile and be happy when they live in such conditions and have to send their hard-earn money back to their parents. You can find a "diamond in the ruff" in many bars in AC and they are as beautiful as in Thailand. But they are different; I think you will understand when you go there. Another difference is that PI girls are basically looking for a boyfriend / husband. Someone to take them away from the bar. That is why some of them can be hard to get rid of if they like you! So be careful. Thai girls are more after the money only. In my opinion.
AC is like going to the Wild West, so it can not be compared to Bangkok at all. AC is really a dump and there is nothing to do there during daytime. If you do not like shopping. Be careful in Philippines, it is actually more dangerous than you think. Some people carry guns and seems to be more and more desperate as the social differences widens. Desperate times sometimes lead to desperate actions. Never carry valuables or even suggest that you are wealthy. The men in PI is much more "macho" than Thai men, so stay out of trouble. The police is corrupt and is a pain in the ass also for the bar owners in AC. I would suggest to try out AC for a few days and also go to Olongapo / Subic Bay (Barrio Baretto). It is only an hour away and has a nice beach and some go-go's as well. You will have a good time in both places if you treat everybody nice and offer a smile! But Bangkok is a completely different world compared to Angeles City.Thanks a lot Aviator12. Not just for beautifully explaining the scene and the girls but also covering what is not hot over there. I almost made it to Philipines last year but changed my mind when I read about shooting at manila airport. Decided to visit Bangkok despite aggressive demonstrators few feet from my hotel.
Wrong place but will answer in any case. There are flights into Manila and Clark air field (AC) from different airlines. Try air asia, Cebu pacific, or Tiger. Into Manila most major airlines will get you there. This is from Bangkok. About 3 hours. From Bangkok tourist area, Sukhumvet to Pattaya is about 1 1/2 hours depending on traffic. Same from Manila to AC.Thanks for explaining the distances nicely, now I won't forget how far AC is from Manila.
Thanks all for your wonderful replies. I will check it out once but obviously it ain't # 2 after LOS.
Be careful in Philippines, it is actually more dangerous than you think. Some people carry guns and seems to be more and more desperate as the social differences widens. Desperate times sometimes lead to desperate actions. Never carry valuables or even suggest that you are wealthy. The men in PI is much more "macho" than Thai men, so stay out of trouble. The police is corrupt and is a pain in the ass also for the bar owners in AC.I concur that the PI is much more dangerous than Thailand. But I don't agree with you if you say that the men in PI are more "macho" than Thai men. On the contrary, I think the average Pinoy (Philippine man) is more easy going and approachable than the average Thai man. They are very sociable.
If someone into the pure beach views and planning to be around bkk city than certainly Pataya should not be the good choice. Even Jomtien beach also not to be adaptable for my liking.
I think Chaam and Bangsaen beach could be the best bet for the beach lovers. Not even polluted same as Pattaya adulteries, but available in limited collections.
I was there with my GF, so unable to direct exact findings. But I had seen cluster of bars and ladies, as well as massage both the places.
To arrive these places riding a taxi is most easiest way. But for me I always prefer buses for long drive in Thailand. For a long drive, I am a faint hearted one for riding the taxies in Thailand. I had a bitter experience to be.
Buses are available for Bangsaen beach from Ekkami. Ride the Chonburi bus and be confirmed about the bus stoppage where to get down, since I forget the stoppage name. Sure it is not the last end of the ride. Then take a Tuk Tuk to the beach. Anyone can find that easily. There are lots of hotels and resorts all along the beach road as someone like.
The pic of PDF format is from chaam beach and the kids playing with sand are from Bangsaen beach.Thankyou for this insight. I think I'd lean on Bangsaen, it's a closer ride versus Cha am, it seems.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/442726/deck-chairs-food-vendors-cleared-off-bang-saen-beach-in-chon-buri
I have never seen a beach massage at Bangsaen beach. And don't expect pristine beaches either. But if you are there and feel like having a massage then I can recommend 2 places close by Bangsaen beach Road: the first one is the Samutra Spa and salon. It is part of the Tide Resort on Beach Road, but expensive compared to any beach massage at any beach in Thaland. Use google "Bangsaen Samutra" for more details. The other one I can recommend is a very good massage shop at the roundabout (aka Bangsaen Monument). That shop is on the same block as the 7/11-shop. In both cases: strictly legit.
And take Wolvenvacht's advise on taxis.Noted, thank you. For the headsup.
Any part of the beach at Bangsaen Beach is OK. Just tell the taxi to go to beach road and get out at the Beach Road Monument (https://www.google.be/maps/place/Wongwian+Bang+Saen/@13.283804,100.915678,2a,90y,90t/data=!3m5!1e2!3m3!1s47110677!2e1!3e10!4m7!1m4!3m3!1s0x3102b4ba2b345035:0x34fd05894f39415e!2sBang+Saen+Beach!3b1!3m1!1s0x0000000000000000:0xff37d867d15dfd5a!6m1!1e1?hl=nl).
You can rent a beach chair for 50 baht for the whole day and there are lots of food stands on beach road, with delicious seafood.
I haven't seen any massages being given at the beach and certainly during the week when it is more quiet I doubt if there will be any.
Warning: there are not many taxis in Bangsaen to bring you back to Bangkok in the evening, so you better book the taxi that brought you to bangsaen to bring you back.Thank you, and for attaching that link, I saw one pic of food and beer. Looks like a good day. Definitely want to rent a beach chair / umbrella thing. Yeah, sounds like the in-sand massages just don't happen, too bad.
Can you eat your food on the beach, or eating is at the food stall?
Yep, I thought about the prospect of no transportation at night since it's not a very busy night life location. Do you need a cell phone w you for these random taxis to remember to come back for you at a designated spot at the agreed time? They want a 'fee' for this arrangement?
How often are 'issues' with taxis though. I read on stickman's site somebody kept on having to deal w / taxis not turning on the meter etc. Pain in the ass.
Dear,
Daily 10 flight from India to Thailand and average 200 people per flight, Imagine no of people visiting Thailand every year.
Still we Indians are not considered better due to money stinginess or some attitudes of the Indian over their. We value.
For our money.
But the English Guy and American guy gets better deals because of the their conversion rate they through money.
Still we can have a better choices.
Regards
Being an Indian I was wondering how we are treated in Bangkok MP. Do Thai women treat us like Africans or Westerners or do we have a classification of our own.
Wolvenvacht
01-06-15, 08:21
Thank you, and for attaching that link, I saw one pic of food and beer. Looks like a good day. Definitely want to rent a beach chair / umbrella thing. Yeah, sounds like the in-sand massages just don't happen, too bad.
Can you eat your food on the beach, or eating is at the food stall?Vendors will walk by or he food stalls will bring the food to you at the beach.
Yep, I thought about the prospect of no transportation at night since it's not a very busy night life location. Do you need a cell phone w you for these random taxis to remember to come back for you at a designated spot at the agreed time? They want a 'fee' for this arrangement?It is always safe to have your taximan's cell phone number available.
How often are 'issues' with taxis though. I read on stickman's site somebody kept on having to deal w / taxis not turning on the meter etc. Pain in the ass.I never had any issues with taxis. For Bangsaen I pre-agreed a price of 1000 baht for the trip from BKK airport to Bangsaen. That will be about the same price as using the meter. I know it seems pricey since going to Pattaya (at about double the distance) is in the same price range, but remember that in Pattaya the taxi is likely to get a customer back to BKK, whereas from Bangsaen most probably he will have to return empty.
Within Bangkok I always insist on using the meter, but for longer trips or outside of Bangkok I tend to agree on the price beforehand. I see my Thai GF doing the same.
Any bars still around like Wild Country? Used to love setting up shop in that place for a few hours getting jacked and sucked by numerous women in exchange for lady drinks. Sad to see the whole place is gone. Looks like some of the bars relocated nearby but no fun to be had inside? Any tips?
ChoduMadan
01-06-15, 12:16
Being an Indian I was wondering how we are treated in Bangkok MP. Do Thai women treat us like Africans or Westerners or do we have a classification of our own.Hi,
It depends where you are going to, If its a regular MP or a soapy or a Regular Massage place no problem you are treated like a normal customer nothing different, But if you are trying some specific BJ Bars or Clubs or Japanese type establishments it is likely that you will not be treated well and also entry might be denied to you, Some girls also do not prefer Indian guys for personal reasons.
OldGentleman
01-06-15, 16:09
After check out from customs, went upstairs to departures lounge negotiated with taxi for 350 bahts inclusive of toll to Sukhumvit Soi President Palace hotel.
Checked in at 4 PM, after refreshing shower and adequate preparations left for hunting.
Day 1.
Every time I come to either Bangkok or Pattaya how much ever of my self control I act like kid in candy store even this trip was not different.
Courtesy of you people armed with knowledge of oily and soapy massages my first stop was bamboo.
Very easy to find, but mind the stairs.
Went up one lady did not show any interest in me, I am 50 fatty, baldy guy. Finally gypsy bubbly lady, good attitude had great time in VIP room.
After 2 hours and 2 shots service DFK, porn star, everything '.
Purchased season pass from Nana station proceeded to terminal 21 at Asoke station.
Top floor has mobile service providers got Thai sim card with internet package for around 500 bahts. After satisfactory good food at food court I noticed itch in groin.
Proceeded to Asoke sub way purchase one more seasons pass off to huwekwang, exit gate 3 walk for 200 meters there is Nataree.
Nataree is dream come true from 2400,2800 , 3500,5500 so on good collection.
Had nice 90 minutes one shot good looking girl.
When I came out I saw still many stunners sitting.
Again back to hotel in less than 30 minutes.
Remaining days next time.
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