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Met up with Sysegies (spelling) and BKK mick one night. We took a small tour of cowboy. CH was again packed and Sys knew one of the girls. Cute and naked.
What a way to greet a person. We stayed a while and then moved on. After grabbing a bite to eat on the corner we looked into Doll house. Not a large crowd but it.
did have the naked girl requirement. Again, Sys knew one and she was happy to talk with him. I saw one I liked and almost called her down. Not a great lineup but.
there was some talent there. At that point BKKmick had to move home as a busy day was to follow and maybe some work that night. Sys decide he need to retry the lady he was sitting with so of
he went. I was alone so off to SW and see my friend Dtom. It turned out to be a fruitful time as a double was set up for Sunday evening. More on that later.
Again cowboy didn't have the crowds in the bars generally. Some were filled others were looking for customers. I would advise staying out of the little bars, toy, jungle jim and the other one. They have gone to a rip off style. 200 for LD which might have 1 ounce of coke and 2 ice cubes. That is crazy. Luckly I asked before. purchasing one.Baccarat are the same as well they want minimum 2 x lady drinks at 200 bht, then 600 BF and 2.5 k short time. On a happier note I met the cutest girl at Rawhide and had a great time.
Old New Guy
01-29-15, 20:28
Again cowboy didn't have the crowds in the bars generally. Some were filled others were looking for customers. I would advise staying out of the little bars, toy, jungle jim and the other one. They have gone to a rip off style. 200 for LD which might have 1 ounce of coke and 2 ice cubes. That is crazy. Luckly I asked before. purchasing one.If you have an issue with LD's prices then you better avoid the ones in Pattaya too because in LK metro they are Bt 240 if I'm not wrong.
Old New Guy
01-29-15, 20:34
I do it but I almost never watch the films after and certainly won't publish them online. Some part is habit and some part security. It's like mutual assured destruction, if they claim assault I can show the video but will in turn get burned for making porn. I know what I would rather have a police report from though, sexual assault is not it.I think you should relax more, luckily Thailand had no track record about prostitutes going very far with false accusations, neither about couples filming shags and being trialed for producing porn. On the opposite if you are caught by a woman secretly filming that is a lot more likely to cause an unpleasant moment.
HorneeFalang
01-29-15, 20:56
Enthusiasts,
Please bear with me as I am typing this from the iPad.
Last night spent some time at Angelwitch. Got to love the girls in black suspenders and the excellent hard rock soundtrack. However paid 180 BHT for some rum and coke. Decent shows including a dude tied to the stage with five fillies dangling asses in his face to the sounds of the great late Joe Cocker. Got out of there after 1200 BHT in booze. Including one for mamasan. Some OK lookers. One real energetic piece that was fucking the pole hard to ACDC's shoot to thrill.
Then went to Mandarin. Lovely looking things. Please note Coyotes in full force (wear orange tops). And available at a price. Bar staff excellent. Other girls in white lingerie although not amazing looking very tight bodies. Did not partake.
More to come.
Just trying to save you all some money: Visited Thigh Bar in Patpong, One dancer worthy of a bar fine. After wasting money on a ladydrink and tip, the mamasan insisted that barfine and money for services would be paid up-front before we head to my hotel. Um, that's not going to happen!
Dancer lost out on thousands of baht. Since they would not be reasonable, I left. Don't see much need for any of us to return to Thigh.
Happy hunting!This does get a bit tricky. A couple of years ago I visited a go-go in Patpong called Pussy Galore (if I recall correctly); it was one of my only Patpong outings. There was a bargirl I wanted but like your experience payment had to be made to the Mama-san in advance, which seemed to be the standard procedure for that establishment given the pricing for a session was on the bar's menu. I decided to go ahead anyway, and ended up with a truly great session, which included cumming twice during a short-time session.
I generally do not like paying in advance, and I know many believe one then loses leverage and this will encourage a bad session. But I wonder whether as a general matter paying in advance versus at the end of a session matters as much as many think, particularly if payment in advance is the norm at a particular establishment. I'm rather agnostic about this so am not trying to support one view or the other, just curious what others have experienced in this regard.
On the other hand, if a girl asks for money in advance while working at a place where the norm is for payment to be made after the session, for me that would raise a red flag. And I suppose if one is talking about a long-time session, there is a greater chance of getting a runner if one pays in advance. But for a short-time session, I'm less convinced it matters (which doesn't mean I'm saying it doesn't, just not so sure).
Baccarat are the same as well they want minimum 2 x lady drinks at 200 bht, then 600 BF and 2.5 k short time. On a happier note I met the cutest girl at Rawhide and had a great time.That's just ridiculous money any way you count it.
HorneeFalang
01-30-15, 00:59
Noticed on the walk home lots of Dark African things near McDonalds. Some very big busted maidens. Right to my taste.
Has anyone had a go?
Baccarat are the same as well they want minimum 2 x lady drinks at 200 bht, then 600 BF and 2.5 k short time. On a happier note I met the cutest girl at Rawhide and had a great time.Phew! Over $100 USD and you still must pay for a room. This in insane. How much time is a "short time" these days?
30,000 Baht is a lot of money for a hotel. How long were you planning to stay?
Your statement about the hotel customer service being first class is also confusing to me. Didn't they say you weren't entitled to a refund because you booked under a promotion and the promotion didn't allow a refund? I would think that if you had to complain to get a refund, their customer service can't be that great.
If the promotion terms include a no refund policy, then you're not entitled to a refund. Threatening them in order to get them to reverse their policy just for you is really classless.I read the terms and conditions page that was right above where I clicked on "Book now. " There was nothing in the terms and conditions that said I couldn't cancel, or wasn't refundable. I only learned this after trying to cancel my reservation.
The hotel has now updated their terms and conditions page to say that conditions do apply for a refund. You are welcome.
So for everyone so quick to call me classless and even worse, I say since money and principal mean nothing to you, go to Baccarra and spend your 3,000 baht for 45 minutes of fame. Or Nataree where you can get a nice romantic condom blowjob for 2,700.
Me, I'm taking the $1,000 to the Philippines. Better honeys and less money.
LA Guy 5 (and I'm an LA Guy, too) you hit the nail on the head about advance payment. If a venue requires advance payment, I think it is ok to pay in advance for a short-time. LT is another story. These girls get jerked around by their customers and I understand the need for advance payment. I will pay in advance if that is the custom. I suspect the overwhelming majority of ISGers would never pay upfront. Up to them.
Phew! Over $100 USD and you still must pay for a room. This in insane. How much time is a "short time" these days?Does not include your drinks either. I would say by the time a punter has a few and takes a gal he is looking at 125- 150 USD for ST.
Its just gotten ridiculous and if you are every in Nana drinking near one of the ST hotels you can clock the STs. When we were there the average "couple" spent less than 30 min in the ST room. And of course that includes 2 showers. So you are talking about less than 10 min of action. I really am amazed that some gals have them lining up to spend this.
FruitNinja
01-30-15, 07:32
Got here late Wednesday night. The good Dr. Was kind enough to let me get a "take the edge off travel" BJ even though I got there at closing. Ran over to Cowboy to see if I could grab my regular from Baccara but everything was closed. I guess the police came through and made everyone close on time. SHIT! Texted her but she was already home. DOUBLE SHIT. No big, I needed some rest anyway. Sat at a street vendor out in front of the Sofitel and had a beer or few. Watched the talent walk by but nothing of interest. There was a PG girl that walked by but I wasn't sure she was working. Got drunk and went to bed. Thanks Paul K for the recommendation on the Sofitel. Top notch! In the states this would be $500 a night and the service nowhere as good.
Spent the day doing errands. Ate a nice dinner on Soi 38 and headed to Cowboy. Crazy House was crazy. Not very crowded compared to other times I have been there. Had a few drinks and moved on to Baccara. The first floor was packed but I like the second floor better anyways. Looks like they added another floor after the fire but I didn't scope it out. Sat down and ordered a drink. My regular saw me and she came by. We had a few drinks and I BF'd her. Two drink minimum and 600 B BF. Just like last year. ST is usually 2500-3000, LT 5000. You can probably bargain down a bit but that usually works to you disadvantage, or at least that's been my experience. My regular was very lackluster this time. I usually take her for the whole time I'm here but I guess I'll take a pass this time. Plenty of girls here.
There were many more SW along Sukhumvit than I remember in previous years. Lots sitting at the street cafes. Lots of Africans, I'm thinking maybe pimps. I don't usually pull from the street unless in Pattaya. Heard a few bad stories and I don't like drama. I'm a little on the type A side and I don't want to risk getting in the shit here.
I was talking to a guy from California. He'd been here for two weeks and he looked like hell. Reminded me why I limit or at least try to limit my drinking. He was telling me about Poseidon Massage. Says the girls on the 3rd floor are model types, good service but pricy. I don't mind pricy as long as the service is good. Anyone been there? Thoughts.
Been traveling for three weeks now. Enjoying this nice hotel and the food in BKK.
Wolvenvacht
01-30-15, 08:07
Again cowboy didn't have the crowds in the bars generally. Some were filled others were looking for customers. I would advise staying out of the little bars, toy, jungle jim and the other one. They have gone to a rip off style. 200 for LD which might have 1 ounce of coke and 2 ice cubes. That is crazy. Luckly I asked before. purchasing one.Why'd you care what is in the girl's LD? You are not paying for the alcohol but for the giirl's company.
TesterTester
01-30-15, 08:24
Hey Macklin. Last I saw you was Phnom Phen. I just got to BKK last night. Stopped at the good doctors. He said you had been by. I got to Cowboy just as everything was closing. Contacted my regular from Baccara and she says she paid to go home. Wonder why so slow. Last year around this time it was standing room only, both floors. I wonder if the fire had something to do with it or if the talent fled because they changed the pay structure. HM.
If you're still around let me know. If anyone else wants to grab a cold one.What is the new pay structure at Baccara? Two girls I know who work there are at their hometowns for the next month. They didn't tell me why and I didn't ask, but waiting for them to return before I go to BKK again.
That's just ridiculous money any way you count it.I agree, especially for SE Asia. But there's no shortage of guys willing to spend it. The mainstream herd has already arrived and will continue to dump copious amounts of cash.
FruitNinja
01-30-15, 13:56
What is the new pay structure at Baccara? Two girls I know who work there are at their hometowns for the next month. They didn't tell me why and I didn't ask, but waiting for them to return before I go to BKK again.No disrespect dude but if you had read past the first paragraph or sentence you would have seen exactly what you were looking for.
"Two drink minimum and 600 be BF. Just like last year. ST is usually 2500-3000, LT 5000. You can probably bargain down a bit but that usually works to you disadvantage, or at least that's been my experience. ".
I know this site isn't the easiest to search but this is a little ridiculous.
FruitNinja
01-30-15, 14:05
I agree, especially for SE Asia. But there's no shortage of guys willing to spend it. The mainstream herd has already arrived and will continue to dump copious amounts of cash.I've probably been guilty of overpaying or not bargaining but yes it's getting ridiculous. In the states I can get an hour for about $200. The only advantage here is that you have 100's if not 1000's to pick from. The quality isn't assured in either location. Hit or miss at best. The times are changing around us. Asians from the more westernized countries like Japan and Korea throw money around like it's nothing. But I don't think they monger for the same reasons we do. You can still get laid reasonably in Vietnam, Cambodia, Philippines, Myanmar, and maybe Laos. I hear China is still relatively reasonable but a pain in the ass. It happened in Rio, is happening in Columbia and Costa Rica. So why fly 20 plus hours? I often ask myself. Probably because it's cold as hell back home. I like the culture and the vibe of Asia. I like to wonder.
Damn that's a price, 5 k. For that she had better be prepared to do something weird like letting me cum in her open eyes.
TesterTester
01-30-15, 16:24
No disrespect dude but if you had read past the first paragraph or sentence you would have seen exactly what you were looking for.
"Two drink minimum and 600 be BF. Just like last year. ST is usually 2500-3000, LT 5000. You can probably bargain down a bit but that usually works to you disadvantage, or at least that's been my experience. ".
I know this site isn't the easiest to search but this is a little ridiculous.Oh. That's not a new compensation scheme. I thought you meant different compensation in terms of bar paying the girl her daily stipend or commission on her drinks or something along those lines.
I've probably been guilty of overpaying or not bargaining but yes it's getting ridiculous. In the states I can get an hour for about $200. The only advantage here is that you have 100's if not 1000's to pick from. The quality isn't assured in either location. Hit or miss at best. The times are changing around us. Asians from the more westernized countries like Japan and Korea throw money around like it's nothing. But I don't think they monger for the same reasons we do. You can still get laid reasonably in Vietnam, Cambodia, Philippines, Myanmar, and maybe Laos. I hear China is still relatively reasonable but a pain in the ass. It happened in Rio, is happening in Columbia and Costa Rica. So why fly 20 plus hours? I often ask myself. Probably because it's cold as hell back home. I like the culture and the vibe of Asia. I like to wonder.And my answer to question whether it is worth it or not is. No, if the trip is just for sex. I get much better quality locally, when I want rather than starve myself for months and travel around the planet for over indulgent non stop buffet for two weeks.
But it still seems OK if one can add sightseeing etc to the mix.
The golden age of cheap and quality pussy are well behind us.
I agree, especially for SE Asia. But there's no shortage of guys willing to spend it. The mainstream herd has already arrived and will continue to dump copious amounts of cash.Sadly you are correct. And as prices have gone up attitudes have as well (worsened that is). Give a poor Asian gal that kind of money and all of the sudden she is a legend in her own mind. But really she is just a the same as a gal from West Virginia but with all her teeth, slanty eyes, a flat nose, and yellow skin. Got that 6th grade "edumacation" as well. As my grandaddy used to say, "You can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear. ".
FruitNinja
01-30-15, 19:21
And my answer to question whether it is worth it or not is. No, if the trip is just for sex. I get much better quality locally, when I want rather than starve myself for months and travel around the planet for over indulgent non stop buffet for two weeks.
But it still seems OK if one can add sightseeing etc to the mix.
The golden age of cheap and quality pussy are well behind us.I get good providers in the states. Mostly collage aged non-pros that just need to make a little to make ends meet. Usually an afternoon for a couple hundred. Very GFE and innocent. I have a young live in right now, double edged sword. Good pussy all the time but little opportunity to play unless sold as a threesome. So with all that in mind: why do we go? There are still a few countries where a deal can be had but I'm guessing that will change in the next decade. For me it's as much about getting out of dodge and the brutal weather. The food, sightseeing, pristine beaches. And of course sexual addiction can be a *****. .
DwayneJohnson
01-30-15, 19:44
I was talking to a guy from California. He'd been here for two weeks and he looked like hell. Reminded me why I limit or at least try to limit my drinking. He was telling me about Poseidon Massage. Says the girls on the 3rd floor are model types, good service but pricy. I don't mind pricy as long as the service is good. Anyone been there? Thoughts.If he considers Poseidon good then Amsterdam, CopaCabana and Utopia must be off the charts good for him. For me most soapy services were slightly better than gogo girls last few months.
To answer your question I would say paying 200 Baht for one swallow of coke and one minute with a conversation long enough to say what is your name is not my
Idea of a girl sitting with me. But if you think it is, go for it. Just letting others know what's up if it is ok with you?
Does not include your drinks either. I would say by the time a punter has a few and takes a gal he is looking at 125- 150 USD for ST.
Its just gotten ridiculous and if you are every in Nana drinking near one of the ST hotels you can clock the STs. When we were there the average "couple" spent less than 30 min in the ST room. And of course that includes 2 showers. So you are talking about less than 10 min of action. I really am amazed that some gals have them lining up to spend this.That's why I now go to Tijuana for serious boinking, and Thailand for other things. The travel, the culture, the food, the easy access to other countries. $150/ half-hour is about double the most expensive places in Tijuana. And you have to fly 20-odd hours for the privilege.
There were many more SW along Sukhumvit than I remember in previous years. Lots sitting at the street cafes.The streetwalkers have generally been chased from the NPL and the Suk 3/5 bus stop. One SW lady I know has moved to near the Holly Coffee on Suk Soi 15. So yeah I would agree that (after dark) on Suk from T21 to a little past the Sofitel has seen an increase in the FL scene.
SL.
Paul Kausch
01-30-15, 22:37
The streetwalkers have generally been chased from the NPL and the Suk 3/5 bus stop. One SW lady I know has moved to near the Holly Coffee on Suk Soi 15. So yeah I would agree that (after dark) on Suk from T21 to a little past the Sofitel has seen an increase in the FL scene.
SL.In June and November from east of the Sofitel to the Asoke intersection I saw many FLs, especially on the sidewalk outside of Thermae. Very late they congregate around the food stands and popup bars along that stretch. Also many on the sidewalk on the east side of Asoke north of Sukhumvit and along Sukhumvit to Soi 23. As I was staying at the Sofitel and went out in the wee hours to grab some food, I had many opportunities to observe.
Wolvenvacht
01-30-15, 22:38
To answer your question I would say paying 200 Baht for one swallow of coke and one minute with a conversation long enough to say what is your name is not my Idea of a girl sitting with me. But if you think it is, go for it. Just letting others know what's up if it is ok with you?I'm fine with it, Mackin.
Perhaps you misunderstood me but when I offer an LD to an agogo girl, I get at least 15 to 30 minutes of talking (and usually more than talking) out of her. It allows me to gauge the chemistry between us and is generally fun to do. Whether she is drinking alcohol or colored water is the least of my concerns. I wouldn't know where else in the world you get to fondle and grope a SYT for such a low price.
HorneeFalang
01-31-15, 01:25
Mongers,
After walking up and down Sukhumvit Road yesterday I finally gave up on Cherry Tree. Could not find the soi. I know I was right near it, however I like to find places on my own as it adds more to the worth for me, had too many San Mig's to have anyone take me seriously anyway if I was to ask for directions.
I DID however spend some time with the ladies at Eden. Oh yeah. Good times.
Report to follow soon.
Also went to Patpong last night. Very interesting after my last hit out 17 years ago.
Full details of campaign also to follow.
To answer your question I would say paying 200 Baht for one swallow of coke and one minute with a conversation long enough to say what is your name is not my
Idea of a girl sitting with me. But if you think it is, go for it. Just letting others know what's up if it is ok with you?Its all pretty sad really. Let's just look at some numbers. In 2000 the Baht was over 40, a beer in Cowboy was 80 baht (as was a lady drink), BF was 400 Baht in Cowboy, and ST was 1 k Baht. So you go out have three beers, a couple of lady drinks, BF, and screw. Your damage; 45 USD. A great deal, and why most of us chose to make the horrid fligth to come here and why many of us chose to move here. Fast forward to today and you are looking at three times that. Now how many things in your life are you paying three times the amount for now than you did in '00? Very few. The prices in BKK have gotten out of hand.
And drink prices exceed those in the US. There are BKK bars now (no GoGos) that are charging over 400 baht for a cocktail. Those are NYC, Paris, Tokyo prices, but you nowhere near get the quality of life or quality for money that you get in those cities.
BKK was a great place. It had a "decent" quality of life for very little money. Sadly it still has "decent" quality of life but for twice and sometimes three times the price. Hey, I still love the food here, but would I choose this as my home now? Probably not.
That's why I now go to Tijuana for serious boinking, and Thailand for other things. The travel, the culture, the food, the easy access to other countries. $150/ half-hour is about double the most expensive places in Tijuana. And you have to fly 20-odd hours for the privilege.Which is why I will make a trip to San Diego and Tijuana next time I am in the states. The appeal of great weather has more and more of a pull as I near 50!
FruitNinja
01-31-15, 03:14
I'm fine with it, Mackin.
Perhaps you misunderstood me but when I offer an LD to an agogo girl, I get at least 15 to 30 minutes of talking (and usually more than talking) out of her. It allows me to gauge the chemistry between us and is generally fun to do. Whether she is drinking alcohol or colored water is the least of my concerns. I wouldn't know where else in the world you get to fondle and grope a SYT for such a low price.Baccara is strict on how long the girls sit. Best you get is 5-10 minutes and they are back on the stage.
FruitNinja
01-31-15, 03:16
Which is why I will make a trip to San Diego and Tijuana next time I am in the states. The appeal of great weather has more and more of a pull as I near 50!I'm with ya on that. I'll probably make at least one more trip to Asia. Few there countries I'd like to see. Not necessarily for mongering. I do like the Philippines but realistically it's a dump in a lot of respects.
TwoTimeTed
01-31-15, 04:43
Went to this establishment that caters to Japanese and there are an abundance of really good lookers here. I approached a gal, didn't even bring up prices and she said no. On another night, a gal from this place said yes but she said st was 2500 the and LT was 5000 baht. I passed.
I'm with ya on that. I'll probably make at least one more trip to Asia. Few there countries I'd like to see. Not necessarily for mongering. I do like the Philippines but realistically it's a dump in a lot of respects.More and more Thailand will become the playground of Asian men, and I think we will be less and less welcome. The PI is a hole of epic proportions. Sadly, it is one of the few nations where we Americans are still quite liked.
In June and November from east of the Sofitel to the Asoke intersection I saw many FLs, especially on the sidewalk outside of Thermae. Very late they congregate around the food stands and popup bars along that stretch. Also many on the sidewalk on the east side of Asoke north of Sukhumvit and along Sukhumvit to Soi 23. As I was staying at the Sofitel and went out in the wee hours to grab some food, I had many opportunities to observe.Your observation is opposite of what I saw few months back. Freelancers were down by huge percentage and the quality, well lets not even talk about it.
My idea of a WG is someone who I want to have sex with in the first place. She has to exceed my minimum standard and obviously quite pretty, well looking. Then there is chemistry, language and all that good stuff. All I saw was horrible fuglies.
TwoTimeTed
01-31-15, 05:39
Soi 33 was dead last night. Its a Japanese catered area and full of massage parlors. I saw Honeys ball massage, didn't do it.
Went over to Soi 22, much better area, small bars, more girls, better atmosphere.
FruitNinja
01-31-15, 06:10
Went to this establishment that caters to Japanese and there are an abundance of really good lookers here. I approached a gal, didn't even bring up prices and she said no. On another night, a gal from this place said yes but she said st was 2500 the and LT was 5000 baht. I passed.I see more and more of this. Apparently if a girl is seen leaving with caucasian her status drops in the eyes of the Koreans and Japanese. I'm also guessing that they pay more, are less demanding, and done faster than your typical caucasian. No wonder the girls like Asian guys.
FruitNinja
01-31-15, 06:13
Went last night. Had a few drinks. Picked K and S from the lineup. Great time. I would highly recommend either of these girls. Individually or together. Very nice technique individually and even better together.
More and more Thailand will become the playground of Asian men, and I think we will be less and less welcome. The PI is a hole of epic proportions. Sadly, it is one of the few nations where we Americans are still quite liked.Sad but true. The Philippines has beautiful nature, weather and beaches. The women are beautiful. The food is so-so. Not Thai good, but good enough.
The problem is that it's so dirt poor. The Asian gains seen in the 80's, 90's, and 2000's by Vietnam, Singapore, Japan, Korean, China, and others just never happened in the Philippines. To this day, their best export is their own people to work in other countries as laborers and nannies.
But its still a great country to visit if you can dodge the landmines of corrupt police, pickpocket kids, crazy men who will abduct you for ransom, random violence by locals, and dishonest women.
Your observation is opposite of what I saw few months back. Freelancers were down by huge percentage and the quality, well lets not even talk about it.
My idea of a WG is someone who I want to have sex with in the first place. She has to exceed my minimum standard and obviously quite pretty, well looking. Then there is chemistry, language and all that good stuff. All I saw was horrible fuglies.Late at night the number of freelancers on Sukhumvit can be deceiving. First of all many of them are Ladyboys. Many of them are Africans. Many of the cute ones you see sitting at a roadside bar are staff and not willing to go. Also many of them are just getting a bite to eat with a customer or friends after getting out of the gogos or other work establishments and are not necessarily available but are not freelancers in the true sense. Most of those girls you see outside of Thermae are girls who work in Thermae and are out to get a bite to eat or a smoke and have no interest in you if you are not Japanese. It changes from night to night, but my best guess is that on a typical night the number of female Thai freelancers on Sukhumvit from soi 3 to Asoke is around 30 at best. Maybe 10 between soi 3 and soi 5 (who all get driven out by the Africans and the bars late at night), another 10 or so around Sofitel to the Thermae and then a few others around Robinsons. And the number of those that are attractive would be close to zero by most standards.
Paul Kausch
01-31-15, 07:17
Your observation is opposite of what I saw few months back. Freelancers were down by huge percentage and the quality, well lets not even talk about it.
My idea of a WG is someone who I want to have sex with in the first place. She has to exceed my minimum standard and obviously quite pretty, well looking. Then there is chemistry, language and all that good stuff. All I saw was horrible fuglies.Several weeks ago I first mentioned this in a post.
I was out between 2 am and 4 am about half a dozen times. On average I saw a few dozen FLs. Many were sitting at food stalls and popup bars. Most were average at best. A few were above average. I wouldn't describe any as very attractive. Earlier in the evening, from about 9 pm until about midnight I would see a dozen or so girls congregating on the sidewalk in front of Thermae. Most of these were above average to quite attractive, though their hair, makeup and overall appearance appeared to be designed to appeal to Japanese men. I saw considerably more FLs along this stretch of sidewalk in November than in June.
Paul Kausch
01-31-15, 07:55
Late at night the number of freelancers on Sukhumvit can be deceiving. First of all many of them are Ladyboys. Many of them are Africans. Many of the cute ones you see sitting at a roadside bar are staff and not willing to go. Also many of them are just getting a bite to eat with a customer or friends after getting out of the gogos or other work establishments and are not necessarily available but are not freelancers in the true sense. Most of those girls you see outside of Thermae are girls who work in Thermae and are out to get a bite to eat or a smoke and have no interest in you if you are not Japanese. It changes from night to night, but my best guess is that on a typical night the number of female Thai freelancers on Sukhumvit from soi 3 to Asoke is around 30 at best. Maybe 10 between soi 3 and soi 5 (who all get driven out by the Africans and the bars late at night), another 10 or so around Sofitel to the Thermae and then a few others around Robinsons. And the number of those that are attractive would be close to zero by most standards.I would estimate fewer than 10% of the FLs I saw were ladyboys, and I'm pretty good at spotting them. I saw African ladies west of the Sofitel, but very few on the east side. I wouldn't attempt to estimate how many of the ladies were looking for a customer, but on walks back from Soi Cowboy to the Sofitel after 2 am on average about half a dozen ladies would make a verbal solicitation and another dozen would make their intentions clear with eye contact.
My impressions are based on a relatively smaller number of observations over a few weeks on two occasions separated by a few months. Hardly enough to estimate what is typical. I'm sure you have a much better sense of what is typical.
It seemed to me from about 9 to 11 most of the ladies hanging outside of Thermae were taking a break and not looking for a customer; however, generally one or two would give me an inviting look. Later at night, at or shortly after closing, there might be a dozen ladies hanging out there. About half were earnestly looking for a customer and took great interest in me. I would describe most of these ladies as attractive, though not necessarily made up to suit my tastes. I've also mentioned in reports about my June and November trip that on several occasions I went inside Thermae. On every occasion it was crowded; most of the ladies were oblivious of me; but on every occasion about a dozen or so ladies, half of whom I'd describe as attractive, immediately looked at me and smiled. Most of the men in Thermae appeared to be Japanese. The vast majority of the ladies appeared to be only interested in these men. However, on every occasion, had I wished, I could have picked up any one of several attractive ladies.
Late at night the number of freelancers on Sukhumvit can be deceiving. First of all many of them are Ladyboys. Many of them are Africans. Many of the cute ones you see sitting at a roadside bar are staff and not willing to go. Also many of them are just getting a bite to eat with a customer or friends after getting out of the gogos or other work establishments and are not necessarily available but are not freelancers in the true sense. Most of those girls you see outside of Thermae are girls who work in Thermae and are out to get a bite to eat or a smoke and have no interest in you if you are not Japanese. It changes from night to night, but my best guess is that on a typical night the number of female Thai freelancers on Sukhumvit from soi 3 to Asoke is around 30 at best. Maybe 10 between soi 3 and soi 5 (who all get driven out by the Africans and the bars late at night), another 10 or so around Sofitel to the Thermae and then a few others around Robinsons. And the number of those that are attractive would be close to zero by most standards.Compared to 5 years ago the numbers are down at least 50%. Compared to 10 years ago, even more. In the early 2000's you could not make it 20 meters down Suk after 10 pm without hearing, "Go with you? Go with you?" The decrease is astounding. Also the numbers in the BG and other FL establishments are way down. Thermae still has lots of gals but a large percentage will shun us round-eyes.
Its all pretty sad really. Let's just look at some numbers. In 2000 the Baht was over 40, a beer in Cowboy was 80 baht (as was a lady drink), BF was 400 Baht in Cowboy, and ST was 1 k Baht. So you go out have three beers, a couple of lady drinks, BF, and screw. Your damage; 45 USD. A great deal, and why most of us chose to make the horrid fligth to come here and why many of us chose to move here. Fast forward to today and you are looking at three times that. Now how many things in your life are you paying three times the amount for now than you did in '00? Very few. The prices in BKK have gotten out of hand.
And drink prices exceed those in the US. There are BKK bars now (no GoGos) that are charging over 400 baht for a cocktail. Those are NYC, Paris, Tokyo prices, but you nowhere near get the quality of life or quality for money that you get in those cities.
BKK was a great place. It had a "decent" quality of life for very little money. Sadly it still has "decent" quality of life but for twice and sometimes three times the price. Hey, I still love the food here, but would I choose this as my home now? Probably not.Oh, and don't forget the cost of the airfare.
Cocktails? Now you've found a pet peeve. If you think 400 is bad, try Skybar. Last time I went it was 600 for the absolute worst mojito I've ever had. My gripe is that I have yet to find a Thai bartender who knows a single malt from a single-edged razorblade. And it seems the more "high class" the bar, the more incompetent the bartender. Maybe 3 years ago I walked into a nice Suk hotel (forgot the name), went to the bar and ordered a Daiquiri, straight up. I got rum and sour mix. And I paid over 300 baht for the privilege. Dayum!! If I'm going to pay LA prices I want LA quality.
Oh, and don't forget the cost of the airfare.
Cocktails? Now you've found a pet peeve. If you think 400 is bad, try Skybar. Last time I went it was 600 for the absolute worst mojito I've ever had. My gripe is that I have yet to find a Thai bartender who knows a single malt from a single-edged razorblade. And it seems the more "high class" the bar, the more incompetent the bartender. Maybe 3 years ago I walked into a nice Suk hotel (forgot the name), went to the bar and ordered a Daiquiri, straight up. I got rum and sour mix. And I paid over 300 baht for the privilege. Dayum!! If I'm going to pay LA prices I want LA quality.Exactly. This ain't LA or NYC. And FFS people don't make near the money folks do in the US, so it is ludicrous that prices should be anywhere near those cities. To be fair there are a few bars that mix really good cocktails here; but you are really paying for that privilege and they are filled with YUDs (young urban douchebags) and YADs (young Asian douchebags).
Why'd you care what is in the girl's LD? You are not paying for the alcohol but for the giirl's company.+1 I don't care what they drink and I don't want them too drunk either.
FruitNinja
01-31-15, 12:32
Late at night the number of freelancers on Sukhumvit can be deceiving. First of all many of them are Ladyboys. Many of them are Africans. Many of the cute ones you see sitting at a roadside bar are staff and not willing to go. Also many of them are just getting a bite to eat with a customer or friends after getting out of the gogos or other work establishments and are not necessarily available but are not freelancers in the true sense. Most of those girls you see outside of Thermae are girls who work in Thermae and are out to get a bite to eat or a smoke and have no interest in you if you are not Japanese. It changes from night to night, but my best guess is that on a typical night the number of female Thai freelancers on Sukhumvit from soi 3 to Asoke is around 30 at best. Maybe 10 between soi 3 and soi 5 (who all get driven out by the Africans and the bars late at night), another 10 or so around Sofitel to the Thermae and then a few others around Robinsons. And the number of those that are attractive would be close to zero by most standards.Got here Thursday in the morning. Like 12:30 am. There were probably 20 girls from the Sofitel and Soi 7/1. Last night hardly a one. I don't think there is anything "usual" here. Maybe the cops or business owners move them around. Who knows!
FruitNinja
01-31-15, 12:34
Exactly. This ain't LA or NYC. And FFS people don't make near the money folks do in the US, so it is ludicrous that prices should be anywhere near those cities. To be fair there are a few bars that mix really good cocktails here; but you are really paying for that privilege and they are filled with YUDs (young urban douchebags) and YADs (young Asian douchebags).I spent a night drinking in HCMC at the Chill Skybar. I could have gotten drunk cheaper in NYC. Yet there were plenty of gringos spending their money with some HOT ass Vietnamese women.
I spent a night drinking in HCMC at the Chill Skybar. I could have gotten drunk cheaper in NYC. Yet there were plenty of gringos spending their money with some HOT ass Vietnamese women.Lots of hot Thai chicks with the YADs. They do love their money. The jigs up and the secret is out. So prices high in HCMC as well, eh? Times they are a changing.
Cocktails? Now you've found a pet peeve. If you think 400 is bad, try Skybar. Last time I went it was 600 for the absolute worst mojito I've ever had. [Over priced, yes. As a venue, I found it a bit overrated, despite having highly desirable company. It was quite windy up there, when I attended recently, and the view was not that special. Did not get a very good view from a normal seating position, I found. Maybe I failed to have the very best seats. I have found other rooftop high bars with a very decent view and much better prices. Just being the highest is not that special. Slightly lower can give better views. Can't see myself motivated to go a second time, unless a stunning girl really wants it.
Even Baiyoke Sky Hotel has pretty decent city lights views from some guest rooms. Also Column Hotel near Sukhumvit.
Crocodilexp
01-31-15, 16:04
It changes from night to night, but my best guess is that on a typical night the number of female Thai freelancers on Sukhumvit from soi 3 to Asoke is around 30 at best. Maybe 10 between soi 3 and soi 5 (who all get driven out by the Africans and the bars late at night), another 10 or so around Sofitel to the Thermae and then a few others around Robinsons. And the number of those that are attractive would be close to zero by most standards.Good observation. That stretch of lower Sukhumwit is deceivingly busy that I kept walking around often for years after the supply dried up.
The street looks long, bustling and potentially promising but the actual numbers of Thai freelancers are small (estimate of about 30 +/- 20 sounds correct). The ones that are passable are usually veterans who were around 8-10 years ago and still kept their looks, but only occasionally venture out these days.
A massive change over 5-10 years ago when there was always well over a 100 Thai freelancers on lower Sukhumwit at any time, some of them so good looking that I had to double back and ask them if they're working or just there by some accident. 1000 baht was the going rate and many were in no hurry to leave. I wouldn't mind prices doubling or even tripling if the selection and service remained similar... but there days that stretch no longer worthwhile except for people watching.
These days, the cheap Thai streetwalker areas (WW22 and Khlong Lot) actually have better numbers than Sukhumwit, although the service is abysmal (always has been), and there isn't even token friendliness: walk 10 paces behind to the ST hotel, stick it in, jiggle, gtfo.
I would estimate fewer than 10% of the FLs I saw were ladyboys, and I'm pretty good at spotting them. I saw African ladies west of the Sofitel, but very few on the east side. I wouldn't attempt to estimate how many of the ladies were looking for a customer, but on walks back from Soi Cowboy to the Sofitel after 2 am on average about half a dozen ladies would make a verbal solicitation and another dozen would make their intentions clear with eye contact.
I hardly even notice the street walkers anymore if in the area. They are not my scene. Very few stunners, if any, and many LBs. A stunner would certainly make me stop and take notice, but doesn't happen any more. I certainly would not try to guess the percentage of LBs since I just don't really pay enough attention, but I suspect well over 10% (a very low number indeed. Surely underexaggeration). Certainly a lot in vicinity very close to Nana. Used to be many nearly all the way to Asoke really, and even some on other side of Asoke. Maybe there is difference in behaviour. Seated ladies are more likely to be real ladies than those standing, I guess.
In the old days, if they came at me, I would always dodge and avoid, fearing mistaking a LB for a normal girl, and assuming the LBs were the aggressive ones.
I did not pay attention to African and other foreign ladies either. They were not special looking.
I feel like DRRonin is much closer to the mark on this topic.
Baccara is strict on how long the girls sit. Best you get is 5-10 minutes and they are back on the stage.So Baccara is a crappy bar IMHO. I don't even like very many of the plastic girls.
Crocodilexp
01-31-15, 16:24
BKK was a great place. It had a "decent" quality of life for very little money. Sadly it still has "decent" quality of life but for twice and sometimes three times the price. Hey, I still love the food here, but would I choose this as my home now? Probably not.Outside of the mongering scene, Bangkok is still a good deal with decent quality of life, albeit not as inexpensive as it once was. Sure, many things doubled in price and some tripled, but they started off ridiculously low there was some inflation in all other places too. Long term expats generally anchor to prices back home at the time they left, disregarding a fact that they double as well.
Price-wise, Bangkok is now in the ballpark (bit cheaper, but rising) with 3rd tier cities in Europe and the USA, but is still a 1st tier mega-city with most of the benefits. Sadly, the freelancer scene has been crap since about 2010 now. Not exactly dead, just lively and busy enough to maintain some hope, but not to satisfy.
The last 3 nights I have gone to the park where the Uni girls hang out.
They need cash for their tuition.
Tight and horny.
1000 be.
Heading out now to find another.
Tango and wechat. Some pics / profiles show up with numbers and suggestive invitations. Scams or what is the hooker protocol for these apps? Looking for starved matures or compensated dating so not really in to romancing collage girls.
Paul Kausch
01-31-15, 19:08
I hardly even notice the street walkers anymore if in the area.
I certainly would not try to guess the percentage of LBs since I just don't really pay enough attention, but I suspect well over 10% (a very low number indeed. Surely underexaggeration).
I feel like DRRonin is much closer to the mark on this topic.
Nor am I interested in picking up FLs. I do like to observe people. I think we're in agreement on numbers. I say a few dozen, 24-36. Others are saying 20 to 30. I'm including the stretches along the east side of Asoke between Sukhumvit and Soi Cowboy. I'm very confident in my estimates of lady boys, no more than one in ten. People overestimate unusual low frequency events. It is to be expected that most casual observers will overestimate the numbers of lady boys. There has been some excellent research on this subject. Kahneman & Tversky did pioneering research on this subject. I first became aware of it in the late 1980's. A simplified explanation is that people make the ridiculous assumption that their observations are unbiased samples of events. Nothing could be further from the truth. Infrequent events are more likely to catch our attention, as do unusual events. Lady boys are unusual and make up a fairly small percentage of the population so when we see a few they catch our attention and we think they are far more numerous than they really are. There is a plethora of empirical research on this topic.
Outside of the mongering scene, Bangkok is still a good deal with decent quality of life, albeit not as inexpensive as it once was. Sure, many things doubled in price and some tripled, but they started off ridiculously low there was some inflation in all other places too. Long term expats generally anchor to prices back home at the time they left, disregarding a fact that they double as well.
Price-wise, Bangkok is now in the ballpark (bit cheaper, but rising) with 3rd tier cities in Europe and the USA, but is still a 1st tier mega-city with most of the benefits. Sadly, the freelancer scene has been crap since about 2010 now. Not exactly dead, just lively and busy enough to maintain some hope, but not to satisfy.Prices back in TX have not accelerated at the rate that have in BKK. Mind you, BKK is still a great place for wonderful local food at very reasonable prices. But the multitude of "gastro-pubs" and other trendy eateries has definitely altered the price landscape of BKK. But if you want to eat good Western food, you can still get better deals in the US, and imported foods, forget it. Even when the baht was at its strongest we did not get a break on imports. Rents are still pretty good here as well. What has gone up in price the most? Alcohol and women. A horrid local beer in the supermarket is more than a good craft beer back in the US.
Agree with you completely about the FL scene. It seems it really died after the flood in '11. Gals left and never came back.
Over priced, yes. As a venue, I found it a bit overrated, despite having highly desirable company. It was quite windy up there, when I attended recently, and the view was not that special. Did not get a very good view from a normal seating position, I found. Maybe I failed to have the very best seats. I have found other rooftop high bars with a very decent view and much better prices. Just being the highest is not that special. Slightly lower can give better views. Can't see myself motivated to go a second time, unless a stunning girl really wants it.
Even Baiyoke Sky Hotel has pretty decent city lights views from some guest rooms. Also Column Hotel near Sukhumvit.The very best view from the State Tower Skybar is at night, up against the back rail overlooking the river. The day view ain't shabby, either. But anywhere else, especially seated in the eating part, isn't that spectacular. And the wait service is extremely spotty. Yet the food prices are quite high.
It was a "better" place (using the term loosely) before Hangover II. Then it got absolutely mobbed with tourists, the bar at night was 3 and 4 deep, what little quality the cocktails had before went out the window as said tourists fought over the privilege to pay $20 US for a drink. The last time I was there was to please a sort of blind date I had. But to go back on my own volition? Forget it!
Paul Kausch
01-31-15, 19:59
but as has been pointed out it is cheaper than major cities in North America and Western Europe. Prices have risen in Bangkok and a US dollar no longer gets you forty-plus bahts. However, the favorable exchange rate was an aberration. Hotels are much cheaper in Bangkok, especially the high-end hotels. As FruitNinga recently pointed out a hotel in a first tier city in the USA comparable to the Sofitel would cost $500 a night. You can buy good street food for less than fast food in the USA; and high-end restaurants are much less expensive than comparable restaurants in the USA. For example, I have been to Zuma in Miami, Florida and Bangkok several times. The food, beverages, service and ambiance are comparable. But I spend less than half as much at the Zuma in Bangkok. The biggest difference is in the cost and quality of sex. A couple of weeks ago I went to a popular club in Miami. I spent several hours there, had several JW Blacks, bought a few drinks for a couple of the dancers. Had a good steak dinner and spent a couple hours in a backroom with a very attractive dancer. The room was comfortable but had no bed or shower, just a very large sofa. The lady was very attractive, in my opinion. I've attached three of many photos I've taken of her to illustrate what I consider attractive. She's twenty years old and wears a wrist band identifying her as too young to drink alcohol. I've been with this lady before; I was one of her first clients in the fall; and we've developed a good rapport. The first time with her was typical. Once we were in the backroom she was cold and mercenary. Though she claimed I was one of the first men to take her into a back room and she was nervous. Because of our relationship now the sex is much better than average for this type of venue in Miami. Still there was no DFK, and there was a CBJ and FS. In comparisons, every girl I've been with in Bangkok over the past two or three years provided a better sexual experience. As for cost, I got to use the private room for an additional half hour without being charged, and the girl gave me about 40% off the going rate at this club. The evening still ended up costing me over two thousand dollars.
I understand guys who have been living in Bangkok for a decade or more find the rising costs upsetting, if not downright painful. And it can be argued the costs in other cities are irrelevant if you are living in Bangkok. But if you weren't living in Bangkok, where would you live? Can you find a cheaper city offering as much as Bangkok? Depending on what you are looking for, that may not be so easy. If one is traveling from North America, a short stay is hard to justify. But if you're able to stay several weeks, Bangkok is a very reasonably priced place to monger.
FruitNinja
01-31-15, 20:31
So Baccara is a crappy bar IMHO. I don't even like very many of the plastic girls.Syz, I still think its probably the best bar in BKK as far as talent. I never s do the first floor. I like the second floor. There's now a third floor but I've not been. But we all like a different look.
I went to Nataree tonight with a local. Although it was 99% Asian punters I managed to snag a great girl. Very nice time and reasonable compared to gogos. I think between that and Dr BJ's I'm happy.
Natare had about 70 girls. The fishbowl girls were 2 K the other better looking girls were 2600. Don't know if I got lucky but I had a great experience. The local I was with had a good time as well. We're going again tomorrow. These will be my new regular places. I think I'm done with the gogos other than maybe to have a drink and look at scantily clad girls.
Next door to Nataree was a club called Emanuale. Looked huge. We stopped for a drink. Don't waste your time. Got a few good comments about Poseidon. Will take a peek tomorrow and see if its legit.
FruitNinja
01-31-15, 20:35
I hardly even notice the street walkers anymore if in the area. They are not my scene. Very few stunners, if any, and many LBs. A stunner would certainly make me stop and take notice, but doesn't happen any more. I certainly would not try to guess the percentage of LBs since I just don't really pay enough attention, but I suspect well over 10% (a very low number indeed. Surely underexaggeration). Certainly a lot in vicinity very close to Nana. Used to be many nearly all the way to Asoke really, and even some on other side of Asoke. Maybe there is difference in behaviour. Seated ladies are more likely to be real ladies than those standing, I guess.
In the old days, if they came at me, I would always dodge and avoid, fearing mistaking a LB for a normal girl, and assuming the LBs were the aggressive ones.
I did not pay attention to African and other foreign ladies either. They were not special looking.
I feel like DRRonin is much closer to the mark on this topic.Yeah, I'm not interested in either Africans or SWs. But there are those that do like that scene. It's 2 am and I just walked from Nana to Soi 15. Maybe 5 girls total. As I said before I think it's as random as people are random.
As much as BKK has gotten ridiculous as far as pricing I'll still be back next year. There's a lot of options to explore.
Paul Kausch
01-31-15, 21:13
Natare had about 70 girls. The fishbowl girls were 2 K the other better looking girls were 2600. Don't know if I got lucky but I had a great experience. The local I was with had a good time as well.I've always had a good experience with the girls at Nataree. They're young, pretty and not very experienced, so don't expect a PSE, but if you go in with the right attitude and make it fun for the girl, you can have a very good time. I approach the girl like I'm dealing with a young teen in the USA, though the last time I was with a young teen, I was also a young teen and had no idea what I was doing. ;) Now that the rooms have been refurbished I think Nataree is well worth a visit.
Which door do you go in through? The one on the north side or south side of the building?
HorneeFalang
02-01-15, 00:35
Mongers,
My time at Eden was great, although structured these gals have the proceed down part.
Great rimming, fantastic cock sucking and nice lesbo action.
Ladies a little older and some flab rolls, but overall good for me.
Would give the total experience a 6.5 to 7.
Loved getting my cock sucked BBBJ whilst ladies one was doing ladies 2 whilst moaning. I came buckets and lady 2 commented on how much she had in her hands.
Also went really hard on Lady 1's asshole.
I noticed she had tears in her eyes. Man I really did fuck her deep whilst Lady 2 gave my asshole a tongue bath.
Got to love this amazing place.
FruitNinja
02-01-15, 01:19
I've always had a good experience with the girls at Nataree. They're young, pretty and not very experienced, so don't expect a PSE, but if you go in with the right attitude and make it fun for the girl, you can have a very good time. I approach the girl like I'm dealing with a young teen in the USA, though the last time I was with a young teen, I was also a young teen and had no idea what I was doing. ;) Now that the rooms have been refurbished I think Nataree is well worth a visit.
Which door do you go in through? The one on the north side or south side of the building?Paul,
I went into the North door. The first one coming from the MRT stop. After I was done I couldn't help but checking out the other door. What a difference. Day and night. Both in quality and quantity of girls.
One of the papasans "cowboy" thin, maybe early 60's was pretty animated. Joked with him a lot. I think that will go a long way in helping pick the better providers.
I'm done with the gogos. As I said between Nataree and Dr BJ's I'm set. Watching a little soccer last night I met a guy from South Africa. Says the women are amazing and available in both versions. Pay and free. Hmm. You ever been to South Africa?
Paul Kausch
02-01-15, 01:21
Paul,
I went into the North door. The first one coming from the MRT stop. After I was done I couldn't help but checking out the other door. What a difference. Day and night. Both in quality and quantity of girls.
One of the papasans "cowboy" thin, maybe early 60's was pretty animated. Joked with him a lot. I think that will go a long way in helping pick the better providers.
I'm done with the gogos. As I said between Nataree and Dr BJ's I'm set. Watching a little soccer last night I met a guy from South Africa. Says the women are amazing and available in both versions. Pay and free. Hmm. You ever been to South Africa?I like what is on the other side of both doors.
I've never been to South Africa.
but as has been pointed out it is cheaper than major cities in North America and Western Europe. Prices have risen in Bangkok and a US dollar no longer gets you forty-plus bahts. However, the favorable exchange rate was an aberration. Hotels are much cheaper in Bangkok, especially the high-end hotels. As FruitNinga recently pointed out a hotel in a first tier city in the USA comparable to the Sofitel would cost $500 a night. You can buy good street food for less than fast food in the USA; and high-end restaurants are much less expensive than comparable restaurants in the USA. For example, I have been to Zuma in Miami, Florida and Bangkok several times. The food, beverages, service and ambiance are comparable. But I spend less than half as much at the Zuma in Bangkok. The biggest difference is in the cost and quality of sex. A couple of weeks ago I went to a popular club in Miami. I spent several hours there, had several JW Blacks, bought a few drinks for a couple of the dancers. Had a good steak dinner and spent a couple hours in a backroom with a very attractive dancer. The room was comfortable but had no bed or shower, just a very large sofa. The lady was very attractive, in my opinion. I've attached three of many photos I've taken of her to illustrate what I consider attractive. She's twenty years old and wears a wrist band identifying her as too young to drink alcohol. I've been with this lady before; I was one of her first clients in the fall; and we've developed a good rapport. The first time with her was typical. Once we were in the backroom she was cold and mercenary. Though she claimed I was one of the first men to take her into a back room and she was nervous. Because of our relationship now the sex is much better than average for this type of venue in Miami. Still there was no DFK, and there was a CBJ and FS. In comparisons, every girl I've been with in Bangkok over the past two or three years provided a better sexual experience. As for cost, I got to use the private room for an additional half hour without being charged, and the girl gave me about 40% off the going rate at this club. The evening still ended up costing me over two thousand dollars.
I understand guys who have been living in Bangkok for a decade or more find the rising costs upsetting, if not downright painful. And it can be argued the costs in other cities are irrelevant if you are living in Bangkok. But if you weren't living in Bangkok, where would you live? Can you find a cheaper city offering as much as Bangkok? Depending on what you are looking for, that may not be so easy. If one is traveling from North America, a short stay is hard to justify. But if you're able to stay several weeks, Bangkok is a very reasonably priced place to monger.Paul, I would say that girl is uber-hot. Way better than most anything that I see in BKK that is available to farangs. I think that mongering in the US is not really the answer, but for those in North America there are closer and cheaper options that don't have the stress of jet lag. Tijuana for those in CA provides a very close option. Phord can tell you all about it. For those in TX that don't mind a little risk there are gems in border towns, more so now that most dudes are scared to go. Costa Rica, the DR, and Colombia all provide good options without flying half way around the world. In my hometown there are AMPS and it is about 140 USD.
The last 3 nights I have gone to the park where the Uni girls hang out.
They need cash for their tuition.
Tight and horny.
1000 be.
Heading out now to find another.Which park is that? Please enlighten us.
Can you find a cheaper city offering as much as Bangkok? Depending on what you are looking for, that may not be so easy. If one is traveling from North America, a short stay is hard to justify. But if you're able to stay several weeks, Bangkok is a very reasonably priced place to monger.I think Mexico City would fill the bill. Only slightly smaller than BKK, loads of women starting around $18 for a 20+ minute quickie, up to $75+ for an hour. Lots of freelance action available for longer times and better hourly rates. Knock-out street food (albeit not quite in the same league as Thailand). First-class restaurants and clubs are also available.
Assuming this web site is correct, here's a comparison between the two cities. DF scores better in all areas except restaurant prices.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Thailand&country2=Mexico&city1=Bangkok&city2=Mexico+City.
I think Mexico City would fill the bill. Only slightly smaller than BKK, loads of women starting around $18 for a 20+ minute quickie, up to $75+ for an hour. Lots of freelance action available for longer times and better hourly rates. Knock-out street food (albeit not quite in the same league as Thailand). First-class restaurants and clubs are also available.
Assuming this web site is correct, here's a comparison between the two cities. DF scores better in all areas except restaurant prices.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Thailand&country2=Mexico&city1=Bangkok&city2=Mexico+City.I love Mexico but not so much Mexico City, the city is much bigger than Bangkok and can be very dangerous while Bangkok is safe. Also in winter considering that is 2300 meters high can be quite cold.
And I never found $18 ladies available. It must be something new, maybe is because I have not been there recently.
Wolvenvacht
02-01-15, 08:53
Paul,
Do I really see a "no prostitution" sign in the background of the third photo?
That's an other reason to go to Bangkok (or South East Asia in general): far less hypocrisy in all things sexual.
Which park is that? Please enlighten us.Yes if Luvpuss didn't have over 1000 posts I would assume he was on drugs. A park with Uni girls for 1000 baht? Is that the same park that has the 72 virgins waiting for Jihadists? I hope none of these girls are majoring in economics because they have to be the stupidest girls in Bangkok.
Paul Kausch
02-01-15, 12:58
Paul,
Do I really see a "no prostitution" sign in the background of the third photo?
That's an other reason to go to Bangkok (or South East Asia in general): far less hypocrisy in all things sexual.That is what the sign says. That's why I included that particular photo. It's ridiculous. You are absolutely right about the attitudes being better in SE Asia. It shows up in the performance of the ladies, which is much better in Bangkok.
I have been to Poseidon a couple of times. But the best has been Nataree where you have good service and options, but rooms are a bit run down.
Got here late Wednesday night. The good Dr. Was kind enough to let me get a "take the edge off travel" BJ even though I got there at closing. Ran over to Cowboy to see if I could grab my regular from Baccara but everything was closed. I guess the police came through and made everyone close on time. SHIT! Texted her but she was already home. DOUBLE SHIT. No big, I needed some rest anyway. Sat at a street vendor out in front of the Sofitel and had a beer or few. Watched the talent walk by but nothing of interest. There was a PG girl that walked by but I wasn't sure she was working. Got drunk and went to bed. Thanks Paul K for the recommendation on the Sofitel. Top notch! In the states this would be $500 a night and the service nowhere as good.
Spent the day doing errands. Ate a nice dinner on Soi 38 and headed to Cowboy. Crazy House was crazy. Not very crowded compared to other times I have been there. Had a few drinks and moved on to Baccara. The first floor was packed but I like the second floor better anyways. Looks like they added another floor after the fire but I didn't scope it out. Sat down and ordered a drink. My regular saw me and she came by. We had a few drinks and I BF'd her. Two drink minimum and 600 B BF. Just like last year. ST is usually 2500-3000, LT 5000. You can probably bargain down a bit but that usually works to you disadvantage, or at least that's been my experience. My regular was very lackluster this time. I usually take her for the whole time I'm here but I guess I'll take a pass this time. Plenty of girls here.
There were many more SW along Sukhumvit than I remember in previous years. Lots sitting at the street cafes. Lots of Africans, I'm thinking maybe pimps. I don't usually pull from the street unless in Pattaya. Heard a few bad stories and I don't like drama. I'm a little on the type A side and I don't want to risk getting in the shit here.
I was talking to a guy from California. He'd been here for two weeks and he looked like hell. Reminded me why I limit or at least try to limit my drinking. He was telling me about Poseidon Massage. Says the girls on the 3rd floor are model types, good service but pricy. I don't mind pricy as long as the service is good. Anyone been there? Thoughts.
Been traveling for three weeks now. Enjoying this nice hotel and the food in BKK.
Paul Kausch
02-01-15, 13:20
Paul, I would say that girl is uber-hot. Way better than most anything that I see in BKK that is available to farangs. I think that mongering in the US is not really the answer, but for those in North America there are closer and cheaper options that don't have the stress of jet lag. Tijuana for those in CA provides a very close option. Phord can tell you all about it. For those in TX that don't mind a little risk there are gems in border towns, more so now that most dudes are scared to go. Costa Rica, the DR, and Colombia all provide good options without flying half way around the world. In my hometown there are AMPS and it is about 140 USD.Yes, she is hot. And of course English is her first language. And there many more girls as hot or hotter here in SE Florida. This babe want's me to take her out (outside of the club) one Saturday night. She says she's been in Miami for about 4 months and has never done that. She's from a little town in Texas so a night out in a city like Miami would be special. She'd want more than what I paid her that night, but I could get her for the same amount. Still by the time I paid for everything it would set me back as much as that night, US $2000 - 3000. I'm confident the sex would be pretty good, finally. But damn that's a lot of money to spend for a few hours of partying and a couple hours of fucking.
I have a Cuban friend my age here who raves about Medellin. Of course he's fluent in Spanish, or at least Cuban as my Colombian friends say. ;) Even though I don't speak Spanish he still thinks if I went I'd have a good time and would have no problem finding plenty of hot woman. It would be a much faster and easier trip. And there is a Medellin thread on ISG. One of these days I'll give it a try.
Visited Patpong 2 why-day evening. Spent most my time in Electric Blue. Being disappointed on Soi Cowboy, Crazy House perhaps excluded, I was pleasantly surprised to find at least 3 really good-looking young slim girls. Not only good-looking and sexy, they were also enjoying dancing and having fun. You can't say that of most girls and places. Not pushy for LD either. LDs are 180. Barfine for category 1 (red tops) are 1200,700 for the fatter white-top girls. 2500ST + 600 for nearby hotel.
LT or taking back to your own hotel not possible, officially.
Best go-go I found this trip!
Also had a look inside Strip and Bada Bing, they are just next door but they looked just like any other BKK place to me.
Paul Kausch
02-01-15, 13:23
I have been to Poseidon a couple of times. But the best has been Nataree where you have good service and options, but rooms are a bit run down.They were run down for years, but sometime before June 2014 they were remodeled and are now quite nice.
Hey thanks for the update. Was in Bkk in Dec 14 but did not visit any soapies during that trip. I happened to meet a Colombian in a disco who kept me busy and also went back to Oilies for some good action. I will be back in 2 months and would certainly visit Nataree as I have seen some of the best ones there.
They were run down for years, but sometime before June 2014 they were remodeled and are now quite nice.
I think Mexico City would fill the bill. Only slightly smaller than BKK, loads of women starting around $18 for a 20+ minute quickie, up to $75+ for an hour. Lots of freelance action available for longer times and better hourly rates. Knock-out street food (albeit not quite in the same league as Thailand). First-class restaurants and clubs are also available.
Assuming this web site is correct, here's a comparison between the two cities. DF scores better in all areas except restaurant prices.
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Thailand&country2=Mexico&city1=Bangkok&city2=Mexico+City.I hope its kosher to post this price comparison site for the cost pf P4P worldwide which I found few weeks ago, If not please delete.
Prices in BKK & Thailand can be compared to other cities, then you need to factor other costs to get the overall picture.
http://www.havocscope.com/black-market-prices/prostitution-prices/
Here is a link for mongers thinking of doing the mongering trip to BKK.
http://www.thailandredcat.com/the-different-types-and-costs-of-hookers-in-thailand/
Click dollar figure to see original post and source information. Prices that was submitted by users is listed as such.
But as we all know Prices are not set in stone.
Paul Kausch
02-01-15, 15:19
Hey thanks for the update. Was in Bkk in Dec 14 but did not visit any soapies during that trip. I happened to meet a Colombian in a disco who kept me busy and also went back to Oilies for some good action. I will be back in 2 months and would certainly visit Nataree as I have seen some of the best ones there.You may already be aware of this but there are two entrances. Through the entrance on the north side of the building are ladies with good massage skills. They tend to me older and fairly attractive. The south entrance is where you enter to find the cute young girls Nataree is famous for. I think you'll like the new rooms.
Crocodilexp
02-01-15, 18:12
I think Mexico City would fill the bill. Only slightly smaller than BKK, loads of women starting around $18 for a 20+ minute quickie, up to $75+ for an hour. Lots of freelance action available for longer times and better hourly rates.Cherry-picking can slant comparisons.
There is still poon available in Bangkok for 300-600 baht ($10-$20) for a 20+ minute quickie in Thai low-end areas (Wong Wian 22, Khlong Tom), but the problem is that's nobody's idea of fun. Then, you can get an oily like Tulip for 2100 ($70) for 1. 5 h with very high service standards (PSE, A+, multiple pops).
The problem is that the Bangkok scene in general has soured, with scant selection (of mostly bad lookers), disappearing freelancers scene, and high asking prices. It's easy to get laid, the service can be decent occasionally, but it's just not really fun anymore.
Paul, I would say that girl is uber-hot. Way better than most anything that I see in BKK that is available to farangs. I think that mongering in the US is not really the answer, but for those in North America there are closer and cheaper options that don't have the stress of jet lag. Tijuana for those in CA provides a very close option. Phord can tell you all about it. For those in TX that don't mind a little risk there are gems in border towns, more so now that most dudes are scared to go. Costa Rica, the DR, and Colombia all provide good options without flying half way around the world. In my hometown there are AMPS and it is about 140 USD.Agree with the overall assessment on looks of the ladies and lack of value in Bangkok (with the exception of select places like BJ bars) -- someone recently posted about a great night at a go go where they were lucky enough to find 3 (good looking women in a gogo who were nice enough to give out a half hour of their time in a dirty short time hotel for $132. There are better prices in many places, including throughout South America and many places in Asia that aren't nearly as popular for farangs (yet?) but also in other parts of the LOS beyond the capital.
Cherry-picking can slant comparisons.
There is still poon available in Bangkok for 300-600 baht ($10-$20) for a 20+ minute quickie in Thai low-end areas (Wong Wian 22, Khlong Tom), but the problem is that's nobody's idea of fun. Then, you can get an oily like Tulip for 2100 ($70) for 1. 5 h with very high service standards (PSE, A+, multiple pops).
The problem is that the Bangkok scene in general has soured, with scant selection (of mostly bad lookers), disappearing freelancers scene, and high asking prices. It's easy to get laid, the service can be decent occasionally, but it's just not really fun anymore.Yes, agreed. The sanuk factor seems to all but have dried up. Just not much fun anymore.
I tried not to cherry-pick, but no matter how hard one tries it's difficult to do a completely apples-to-apples comparison of any two places. Paul asked if one could find a cheaper city than BKK with as much to offer. DF had a population of around 9 million, is very "cosmopolitan," has infrastructure and mass transit, a relatively robust economy, and available women. The $20 quickies are not my idea of fun, but they are an order of magnitude better than their Thai equivalent. Mexico's not noted for its massages, but pretty Latinas abound, both in bars and online, for prices very reasonable to what Thailand has become.
The food is different, but great. The weather, well, it's different. Not swampy like BKK, but much colder. There are better places in Mexico, certainly, but DF is "reasonably" equivalent to BKK, and cheaper.
I hope its kosher to post this price comparison site for the cost pf P4P worldwide which I found few weeks ago, If not please delete.
Prices in BKK & Thailand can be compared to other cities, then you need to factor other costs to get the overall picture.
http://www.havocscope.com/black-market-prices/prostitution-prices/
Here is a link for mongers thinking of doing the mongering trip to BKK.
http://www.thailandredcat.com/the-different-types-and-costs-of-hookers-in-thailand/
Click dollar figure to see original post and source information. Prices that was submitted by users is listed as such.
But as we all know Prices are not set in stone.Well, that does it! I'm off to Bangladesh. $0. 60? Can't beat that!
But, seriously, those prices seem all over the map. Some look reasonable, others wildly inflated, others, like the virgins and minors, just idiotic. But it did make for an interesting read. Thanks.
I tried not to cherry-pick, but no matter how hard one tries it's difficult to do a completely apples-to-apples comparison of any two places. Paul asked if one could find a cheaper city than BKK with as much to offer. DF had a population of around 9 million, is very "cosmopolitan," has infrastructure and mass transit, a relatively robust economy, and available women. The $20 quickies are not my idea of fun, but they are an order of magnitude better than their Thai equivalent. Mexico's not noted for its massages, but pretty Latinas abound, both in bars and online, for prices very reasonable to what Thailand has become. The food is different, but great. The weather, well, it's different. Not swampy like BKK, but much colder. There are better places in Mexico, certainly, but DF is "reasonably" equivalent to BKK, and cheaper.The problem with Mexico City is that there is no equivalent to the Thai go-go's, the German FKKs, or the Brazilian termas. I'm also not aware of any internationally well-known bars, clubs, or hotels in DF where working girls go to ply their trade. There could be a good MP scene, but I haven't investigated that yet. Of course, there is Tijuana, but Tijuana is no where on par with places like Bangkok, Rio de Janeiro, or Berlin (or even Frankfurt). Sure, for an American you don't have to travel half way around the world to get there. But, you get what you pay for. And with Tijuana, that's a city with a tiny P4P scene in comparison that's far, far removed from being anywhere near a world-class vacation destination. Yeah, if you live where it's convenient to get to it cool. But, nobody is going to convince me that Tijuana is just as good as Bangkok! Just looking at sheer choice and options alone, especially when you add in Pattaya and Phuket, Tijuana is a big loser on that count! I enjoyed Tijuana for what it is, but it can't compete favorably overall with with top-tier mongering destinations like Thailand, Brazil, and Germany! The one area where it seems to me that Mexico can compete is in the call girl scene. This is not what I prefer though. I want to go out to music, naked dancing, dining, drinking, and selecting my choices "live". I enjoy the social, in-your-face aspect of mongering in certain places, and I like to see what I'm getting before she shows up at my door. That puts a stop to "baiting and switching", and it allows you to see if you have any chemistry with the girl at all.
You may already be aware of this but there are two entrances. Through the entrance on the north side of the building are ladies with good massage skills. They tend to me older and fairly attractive. The south entrance is where you enter to find the cute young girls Nataree is famous for. I think you'll like the new rooms.Question: Can you reach both venues by going in either door?
The problem with Mexico City is that there is no equivalent to the Thai go-go's, the German FKKs, or the Brazilian termas. I'm also not aware of any internationally well-known bars, clubs, or hotels in DF where working girls go to ply their trade. There could be a good MP scene, but I haven't investigated that yet. Of course, there is Tijuana, but Tijuana is no where on par with places like Bangkok, Rio de Janeiro, or Berlin (or even Frankfurt). Sure, for an American you don't have to travel half way around the world to get there. But, you get what you pay for. And with Tijuana, that's a city with a tiny P4P scene in comparison that's far, far removed from being anywhere near a world-class vacation destination. Yeah, if you live where it's convenient to get to it cool. But, nobody is going to convince me that Tijuana is just as good as Bangkok! Just looking at sheer choice and options alone, especially when you add in Pattaya and Phuket, Tijuana is a big loser on that count! I enjoyed Tijuana for what it is, but it can't compete favorably overall with with top-tier mongering destinations like Thailand, Brazil, and Germany! The one area where it seems to me that Mexico can compete is in the call girl scene. This is not what I prefer though. I want to go out to music, naked dancing, dining, drinking, and selecting my choices "live". I enjoy the social, in-your-face aspect of mongering in certain places, and I like to see what I'm getting before she shows up at my door. That puts a stop to "baiting and switching", and it allows you to see if you have any chemistry with the girl at all.I agree with your statement about Mexico, but not your "baiting and switching" in Thailand. I lost count of the girls in Bangkok that agreed to my terms but only reveal they are on their period after we get to the hotel. Or their phone rings when they get back to my room because their girlfriend is sick and they can only do a blowjob and go. Or they get to the hotel, have stomach pain from food they ate earlier so they have to go, but ask for 300 baht for taxi.
This is Thailand, everyone wants to scam you. For bars, fewer customers mean raising the drink prices and barfines. For girls, fewer customers mean raising the price.
The problem is that the Bangkok scene in general has soured, with scant selection (of mostly bad lookers), disappearing freelancers scene, and high asking prices. It's easy to get laid, the service can be decent occasionally, but it's just not really fun anymore.Spot on. Its just not fun anymore and there are far fewer working girls.
Paul Kausch
02-02-15, 04:41
Question: Can you reach both venues by going in either door?No, each door takes you to a separate large room with a fishbowl and ladies sitting in chairs. You could go through one door take a look; then leave go through the other door and take another look; then decide which you preferred. Be prepared to have the papasan on each side try to persuade you that the girls on his side are better than the ones on the other side.
No, each door takes you to a separate large room with a fishbowl and ladies sitting in chairs. You could go through one door take a look; then leave go through the other door and take another look; then decide which you preferred. Be prepared to have the papasan on each side try to persuade you that the girls on his side are better than the ones on the other side.There is also a door between the two sections, around where the rest rooms are. I have always wondered though what the relationship between the two sections is. They almost seem like different businesses and I generally have ignored the fishbowl in the room to the left. Are they owned by the same person or group? And is there any reason one might prefer the girls in the room to the left (when I've looked, they seemed sub-standard in looks, whereas the room on the right is known for having lookers; but maybe the girls on the left are performers?
Edit: I now see Paul you provided the answers to most of my above questions in an earlier post (that I did not see before). Thanks.
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Made a choice as I walked in, and caught the girl a bit by surprise. No idea her name or number, sorry. Shoulder length hair, nice tits but not huge, guessing about 24. Sweet, not much English.
Pants off, get a cleaning. She started the blow without taking her top off, then I took my shirt off (didn't want to risk getting wayward cum on it), and she took hers off. Nice tits, a good handful. Good technique. Let her tits brush against my palms as she sucked me. Didn't last too long, shot it all in her mouth, she took every drop. Was in and out probably in 20 minutes. 800 fee, gave her 200 as a tip. A good value (US $25), and they open at 8 am! Imagine stopping in for a blow on the way to work.
Will try Dr. BJ's tomorrow to compare.
Paul Kausch
02-02-15, 18:19
There is also a door between the two sections, around where the rest rooms are. I have always wondered though what the relationship between the two sections is. They almost seem like different businesses and I generally have ignored the fishbowl in the room to the left. Are they owned by the same person or group? And is there any reason one might prefer the girls in the room to the left (when I've looked, they seemed sub-standard in looks, whereas the room on the right is known for having lookers; but maybe the girls on the left are performers?
Edit: I now see Paul you provided the answers to most of my above questions in an earlier post (that I did not see before). Thanks.As to your question about ownership, as the story goes, Nataree is run by a Thai-Chinese mob; and they bring down a lot of young girls from Chiang Rai which is in the Golden Triangle, the far north where Burma, Thailand and Laos converge and not far from China.
So women don't get naked in BJ bars and we are not allowed to grope?
Also do you have any idea if CIM in 69 position is a possibility?
Thanks
Pants off, get a cleaning. She started the blow without taking her top off, then I took my shirt off (didn't want to risk getting wayward cum on it), and she took hers off. Nice tits, a good handful. Good technique. Let her tits brush against my palms as she sucked me. Didn't last too long, shot it all in her mouth, she took every drop. Was in and out probably in 20 minutes. 800 fee, gave her 200 as a tip. A good value (US $25), and they open at 8 am! Imagine stopping in for a blow on the way to work.
Will try Dr. BJ's tomorrow to compare.
I agree with your statement about Mexico, but not your "baiting and switching" in Thailand. I lost count of the girls in Bangkok that agreed to my terms but only reveal they are on their period after we get to the hotel. Or their phone rings when they get back to my room because their girlfriend is sick and they can only do a blowjob and go. Or they get to the hotel, have stomach pain from food they ate earlier so they have to go, but ask for 300 baht for taxi.
This is Thailand, everyone wants to scam you. For bars, fewer customers mean raising the drink prices and barfines. For girls, fewer customers mean raising the price.Just returned from BKK, in agreement with your writings. My recent trip to BKK had the same negatives with the FL, s. I find works best for me to avoid the problems you mention, is to stick with the oilys and the soapies. Especially the soapies because talking with the chicas, I do not think the chicas are as free to move around as the oily girls. Possibly the chicas are under contract with the soapies whereas not so much with the oilys. I have deducted this with conversations with chicas working in both types of places. My point being the soapy chicas are more prone to wanting to have you leave happy and satisfied so you would not complain to the mamasan. Highly recommend the soapy Colonze 2 , but only after 3. 30 pm for lots of chicas. When you find a diamond then you can book for 1 pm or 2 pm appointment a fresh rose.
The problem with Mexico City is that there is no equivalent to the Thai go-go's, the German FKKs, or the Brazilian termas. I'm also not aware of any internationally well-known bars, clubs, or hotels in DF where working girls go to ply their trade. There could be a good MP scene, but I haven't investigated that yet. Of course, there is Tijuana, but Tijuana is no where on par with places like Bangkok, Rio de Janeiro, or Berlin (or even Frankfurt). Sure, for an American you don't have to travel half way around the world to get there. But, you get what you pay for. And with Tijuana, that's a city with a tiny P4P scene in comparison that's far, far removed from being anywhere near a world-class vacation destination. Yeah, if you live where it's convenient to get to it cool. But, nobody is going to convince me that Tijuana is just as good as Bangkok! Just looking at sheer choice and options alone, especially when you add in Pattaya and Phuket, Tijuana is a big loser on that count! I enjoyed Tijuana for what it is, but it can't compete favorably overall with with top-tier mongering destinations like Thailand, Brazil, and Germany! The one area where it seems to me that Mexico can compete is in the call girl scene. This is not what I prefer though. I want to go out to music, naked dancing, dining, drinking, and selecting my choices "live". I enjoy the social, in-your-face aspect of mongering in certain places, and I like to see what I'm getting before she shows up at my door. That puts a stop to "baiting and switching", and it allows you to see if you have any chemistry with the girl at all.DF certainly has strip clubs and clubs where ladies are available to dance with, chat up, etc. , etc. As you've not been yet, I think you may have unrealistic expectations of what the BKK go-go scene has become. There is no "dancing" in any meaningful sense (with some exceptions), there is very little nudity (again, there are exceptions but these days it's not the norm), and, as many others have pointed out, the pricing schemes, "sick friend" scams, etc. , make the scene far less enjoyable than it once was and, far too often, you don't get what you pay for. This is no longer the pre-Purachai era, when a go-go bar was a wild den of debauchery, with naked women everywhere.
As a long-time Thailand uber-fan, I must say that the level of service in Tijuana now tends to surpass that of BKK. And that's a sorry state of affairs, indeed.
But more to the point, the OP asked for a similar place to BKK. DF's scene is certainly not identical to BKK. No place is. Latins roll differently than Asians or Gringos. But the scene is certainly robust, overall the pricing structure is cheaper, DF has all the modern conveniences of a big city, as does BKK. So, the point is that there are "equivalents" to BKK. One may prefer Asia over Mexico, certainly. But the days of BKK being a premier sex tourist destination (I. E. Loads of pretty girls, good value for money, lots of fun, etc.) are coming to a close. You may not like it, but the freelancer / call girl scene seems to be taking over BKK, too.
I agree with your statement about Mexico, but not your "baiting and switching" in Thailand. I lost count of the girls in Bangkok that agreed to my terms but only reveal they are on their period after we get to the hotel. Or their phone rings when they get back to my room because their girlfriend is sick and they can only do a blowjob and go. Or they get to the hotel, have stomach pain from food they ate earlier so they have to go, but ask for 300 baht for taxi. This is Thailand, everyone wants to scam you. For bars, fewer customers mean raising the drink prices and barfines. For girls, fewer customers mean raising the price.I believe you misunderstood me. I was talking specifically about the call girl or escort scene in particular. I don't partake in that scene anywhere in the world because of the "bait and switch". You think one girl is going to show up, but somebody else shows up. Or, it's the same girl but 10 years older or something. And you have no good way to judge chemistry before a call girl shows up at your door. That's what I was talking about, and that can happen in Thailand just like anywhere else. Of course, you can run into a scam anywhere right? But, I don't get scammed or disappointed by arranging for "escorts" via telephone or the internet. Because I just don't do that. Anywhere. And speaking now to Phordphan, I have never had unrealistic expectations for any place I have ever visited before. That's because I do my research and know exactly what to expect. I'm going to love Bangkok far, far more than Tijuana! I'm going for both the mongering and more. And Bangkok (plus Phuket and Pattaya) are both going to offer a lot more that interests me as a tourist than Tijuana ever will! At least in my lifetime LOL!
As a long-time Thailand uber-fan, I must say that the level of service in Tijuana now tends to surpass that of BKK. And that's a sorry state of affairs, indeed.Really? Where are you finding girls for long time P4P in Tijuana? And where are you taking them?
They can but not all will. I could have easily squeezed her tits during the act but that's not my thing.
You may be able to do CIM in 69 if the girl's willing, but they may charge you for sex (1,200) instead of just a blow. The appeal of the blow work for women is that they believe they are exposing themselves to less disease / risk, and also that it's less intimate (See the film "Clerks" for a discussion of this.), so they may or may not do it.
So women don't get naked in BJ bars and we are not allowed to grope?
Also do you have any idea if CIM in 69 position is a possibility?
Thanks
DF certainly has strip clubs and clubs where ladies are available to dance with, chat up, etc. , etc. As you've not been yet, I think you may have unrealistic expectations of what the BKK go-go scene has become. There is no "dancing" in any meaningful sense (with some exceptions), there is very little nudity (again, there are exceptions but these days it's not the norm), and, as many others have pointed out, the pricing schemes, "sick friend" scams, etc. , make the scene far less enjoyable than it once was and, far too often, you don't get what you pay for. This is no longer the pre-Purachai era, when a go-go bar was a wild den of debauchery, with naked women everywhere.
As a long-time Thailand uber-fan, I must say that the level of service in Tijuana now tends to surpass that of BKK. And that's a sorry state of affairs, indeed.
But more to the point, the OP asked for a similar place to BKK. DF's scene is certainly not identical to BKK. No place is. Latins roll differently than Asians or Gringos. But the scene is certainly robust, overall the pricing structure is cheaper, DF has all the modern conveniences of a big city, as does BKK. So, the point is that there are "equivalents" to BKK. One may prefer Asia over Mexico, certainly. But the days of BKK being a premier sex tourist destination (I. E. Loads of pretty girls, good value for money, lots of fun, etc.) are coming to a close. You may not like it, but the freelancer / call girl scene seems to be taking over BKK, too.An excellent post. Yes, the "social-order" crackdown that started under Purachai in 02 was the beginning of the end. Early closing times, [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) tests, less nudity changed the BKK GoGo scene for many different reasons, the most important being it was less fun for the gals.
Combined with an improving economy, police harassing street workers, and more recently various social media platforms and you have created the perfect storm. The "smart" gals are not dancing in GoGos or sitting in FL venues. They are working on LINE, We Chat, etc. From home.
I certainly prefer Asia. I love the food, the lack of machismo, and the attitude of the people. However, the P4 P scene in BKK is simply a shadow of its former self and I firmly believe this trend will continue. I foresee a day when GoGos are a thing of the past and not long after the soapies and oilies closing as well. It is inevitable with economic and social development. How long? 5 years, 10 years, certainly less than 20. My guess would put it somewhere between 5 and 15 years from now.
Paul Kausch
02-03-15, 02:39
This is Thailand, everyone wants to scam you.
I believe you misunderstood me. I was talking specifically about the call girl or escort scene in particular. I don't partake in that scene anywhere in the world because of the "bait and switch". You think one girl is going to show up, but somebody else shows up. Or, it's the same girl but 10 years older or something. And you have no good way to judge chemistry before a call girl shows up at your door. That's what I was talking about, and that can happen in Thailand just like anywhere else. Of course, you can run into a scam anywhere right? But, I don't get scammed or disappointed by arranging for "escorts" via telephone or the internet. Because I just don't do that. Anywhere. And speaking now to Phordphan, I have never had unrealistic expectations for any place I have ever visited before. That's because I do my research and know exactly what to expect. I'm going to love Bangkok far, far more than Tijuana! I'm going for both the mongering and more. And Bangkok (plus Phuket and Pattaya) are both going to offer a lot more that interests me as a tourist than Tijuana ever will! At least in my lifetime LOL!I have never had experiences in Thailand like Uwillu describes. It has been a couple of years since I picked up an FL, but the last one I did she was great. I have booked numerous MP girls, mostly on outcall, escorts at several agencies and a number of bar girls at several bars on Soi Cowboy and in Nana Plaza. I don't recall a lady doing less than what she said she was willing to do and on a few occasions girls have volunteered to stay longer and offered more, Moojie in particular comes to mind. Many of the girls I now see know me. These girls often say I am jai dee and take very good care of me. I have no problems with the new girls; and when I run into them on subsequent trips many lobby me to take them out again. I'm an average looking man approaching 65. I don't haggle with the girls over money. I don't accept any "up to you" nonsense. I tell them to tell me how much they want. Sometimes they ask for too much and I say no; then they often come down. Usually they quote about what I'm prepared to pay. I tip the girl extra if the sex is good, generously if it's exceptional. Otherwise I don't tip, other than a hundred baht or two for a taxi. I've been known to give a few thousand bahts to ladies who I know from a reliable source are in serious need of money; and I ask for nothing in return. I swore to never forget there were times in my past when I was rescued by the generosity of friends. Simply put, I believe you reap what you sow.
In an earlier post I asked about good mongering destinations other than Bangkok. Places in Latin America were suggested. These have been suggested by others. I mentioned a Cuban friend who loves Medellin. However, my Cuban friend has an older retired friend who rents his rather nice house in Miami and lives most of the year in Medellin. The guy says its because he can live lavishly there and the young ladies are much nicer than they are in Miami. However, about two years ago this guy visited Bangkok and told my friend he believed as a mongering destination it beats Medellin hands down. That is one opinion and who knows, maybe he met Aor while she was still at Annie's. ;) His opinion has not dissuaded me from visiting Medellin at the first opportunity. Still, I feel compared to other destination when you consider the girls, the food, the exotic nature of the country and the cost, Bangkok is tough to beat.
Finally, I posted the photo of the girl at the club in Miami to give an idea of how very hot the girls are here. Still, given a choice of fucking her or any of a dozen or so ladies I know in Bangkok, I'd take the Bangkok ladies hands down. Even though that lady's attitude improved the second time around it still didn't compare to the attitudes of the Bangkok ladies; and the sex with them is much better. Then, when you consider cost the comparison is ridiculous. A few hours with a high quality hooker in Miami will set you back a few thousand US dollars. We all know how far that will go in Bangkok.
In an earlier post I asked about good mongering destinations other than Bangkok. Places in Latin America were suggested. These have been suggested by others. I mentioned a Cuban friend who loves Medellin. However, my Cuban friend has an older retired friend who rents his rather nice house in Miami and lives most of the year in Medellin. The guy says its because he can live lavishly there and the young ladies are much nicer than they are in Miami. However, about two years ago this guy visited Bangkok and told my friend he believed as a mongering destination it beats Medellin hands down. That is one opinion and who knows, maybe he met Aor while she was still at Annie's. ;) His opinion has not dissuaded me from visiting Medellin at the first opportunity. Still, I feel compared to other destination when you consider the girls, the food, the exotic nature of the country and the cost, Bangkok is tough to beat.I already know that although for me Bangkok will most definitely be better than Tijuana, it will never be able to supplant my number 1 (Brazil) or my number 2 (Germany). That's because my favorite kind of women for sexing are the Latinas and the white girls over most Asian girls. And, I love fucking my favorite types in the ass! My friend, I can go to Brazil or Germany and butt fuck my life away LOL! I haven't found any other places yet that compare when it comes to anal, and I doubt I ever will. But, spot number 3 is potentially available to be filled by Thailand. We shall see, we shall see. Right now Costa Rica sits at number 3 on my list of "permanent monger member nations". We shall see!
I have never had experiences in Thailand like Uwillu describes. It has been a couple of years since I picked up an FL, but the last one I did she was great. I have booked numerous MP girls, mostly on outcall, escorts at several agencies and a number of bar girls at several bars on Soi Cowboy and in Nana Plaza. I don't recall a lady doing less than what she said she was willing to do and on a few occasions girls have volunteered to stay longer and offered more, Moojie in particular comes to mind. Many of the girls I now see know me. These girls often say I am jai dee and take very good care of me. I have no problems with the new girls; and when I run into them on subsequent trips many lobby me to take them out again. I'm an average looking man approaching 65. I don't haggle with the girls over money. I don't accept any "up to you" nonsense. I tell them to tell me how much they want. Sometimes they ask for too much and I say no; then they often come down. Usually they quote about what I'm prepared to pay. I tip the girl extra if the sex is good, generously if it's exceptional. Otherwise I don't tip, other than a hundred baht or two for a taxi. I've been known to give a few thousand bahts to ladies who I know from a reliable source are in serious need of money; and I ask for nothing in return. I swore to never forget there were times in my past when I was rescued by the generosity of friends. Simply put, I believe you reap what you sow..A hooker in Miami is $200 per hour. Have no idea where you spend a few thousand, but you are being taken. Check out Backpage or Craigslist.
As far as Bangkok, I don't spend 6,000 from escort agencies like you. I also don't spend money on photo-shopped MP girls, photo-shopped agency girls, or overpriced bar girls.
I hit the streets. Plain and simple. 1,000 short time is my offer. On soi 4 if you pay more than that for a freelancer you are being taken. You can find great girls this way, but my point is, there are a lot of scammers working this Soi. Your budget compared to most of us isn't the same. I don't fly 22 hours to spend 6,000 on a short time girl. I knock out overtime at work for 6 months to fly 22 hours to be with as many 1,000 baht girls as possible in my vacation.
In the end, I'd rather have 6 - 1,000 baht freelancers over a photo-shopped escort model anytime. Even the scammers. But they are all disappearing in Bangkok. Every freelancer thinks her pussy is worth 2,500, pregnancy scars in all.
Hi everyone.
I would be traveling to BKK in a couple of weeks for two nights onlyThis would be my first solo business trip and would like to take full advantage of it. However, probably time is definitely going to be a crunch as will be accompanied by my hosts until 8. 30 or even 9 pm.
I will be staying for 2 nights, either Novotel, Siam or the other one down sukhumvit road. Is this a GF hotel or do I have to show an I'd.
I have got pointers from senior members like AO, Mumbaiguy, HSH, TonyIndian, iamramesh of how to have a good time. I will be having one afternoon post 3 pm and that evening free to myself. I then have only one night to myself. So this is what I plan to do.
1. First afternoon. Cherry Massage, would like to try the famous 3 sum combinations Bell, Focus and Game. Planning to try the Nuru massage here.
2. Evening. Would like to experience a soapy, may be Eden or Annie's. Seniors would kindly request your suggestions.
3. Night. Plan to visit NEP. Not sure if I will take someone back to my hotel, may be go to ST hotel near by. Plan to check out angel witch, rainbow.
Next night. BierGarten to try and pick up a free lancer back to the hotel. Guys many websites talk that there is a risk of these freelancers as we do not know if they have any diseases.
I have had my share of 3 sums in India (hope I am not racially discriminated, have to say I am not stinky and absolutely hopeless in bargaining. Zero skills) but what I am looking out for here is total PSE, where I direct the whole scene.
I have never had experiences in Thailand like Uwillu describes. It has been a couple of years since I picked up an FL, but the last one I did she was great. I have booked numerous MP girls, mostly on outcall, escorts at several agencies and a number of bar girls at several bars on Soi Cowboy and in Nana Plaza. I don't recall a lady doing less than what she said she was willing to do and on a few occasions girls have volunteered to stay longer and offered more, Moojie in particular comes to mind. Many of the girls I now see know me. These girls often say I am jai dee and take very good care of me. I have no problems with the new girls; and when I run into them on subsequent trips many lobby me to take them out again. I'm an average looking man approaching 65. I don't haggle with the girls over money. I don't accept any "up to you" nonsense. I tell them to tell me how much they want. Sometimes they ask for too much and I say no; then they often come down. Usually they quote about what I'm prepared to pay. I tip the girl extra if the sex is good, generously if it's exceptional. Otherwise I don't tip, other than a hundred baht or two for a taxi. I've been known to give a few thousand bahts to ladies who I know from a reliable source are in serious need of money; and I ask for nothing in return. I swore to never forget there were times in my past when I was rescued by the generosity of friends. Simply put, I believe you reap what you sow..You are a well mannered old man. Please check your vision though -your Miami's prostitute is just OK looking.
Wolvenvacht
02-03-15, 08:29
Hi everyone.
I would be traveling to BKK in a couple of weeks for two nights onlyThis would be my first solo business trip and would like to take full advantage of it. However, probably time is definitely going to be a crunch as will be accompanied by my hosts until 8. 30 or even 9 pm.9 PM is still early day for most of the agogo clubs. Suzi Wong in Soi Cowboy only starts with their shows around 9:30 PM.
I will be staying for 2 nights, either Novotel, Siam or the other one down sukhumvit road. Is this a GF hotel or do I have to show an ID.Always be prepared that the girl has to show ID in your hotel, so make sure she has her ID with her when you take her with you. That has absolutely nothing to do with the hotel being guestfriendly or not. It is just a security measure.
I have got pointers from senior members like AO, Mumbaiguy, HSH, TonyIndian, iamramesh of how to have a good time. I will be having one afternoon post 3 pm and that evening free to myself. I then have only one night to myself. So this is what I plan to do.
1. First afternoon. Cherry Massage, would like to try the famous 3 sum combinations Bell, Focus and Game. Planning to try the Nuru massage here.Nuru plus 3 girls is too much. Enjoy the Nuru massage with one girl. It is a wonderful experience on its own with a dedicated massage girl. You have to savor the delights, not overdose yourself.
2. Evening. Would like to experience a soapy, may be Eden or Annie's. Seniors would kindly request your suggestions.Eden is not a soapy. It is the place to be for threesomes with somewhat older, but very experienced ladies with guaranteed A+ if you so choose.
3. Night. Plan to visit NEP. Not sure if I will take someone back to my hotel, may be go to ST hotel near by. Plan to check out angel witch, rainbow.Unless you are superman, you will be exhausted by now and happy to crawl to your bed. Anyhow, no reason to go to an ST hotel when your own hotel is close by. Also, one of fhe things I like so much in Bangkok (or Thailand in general) is the option for LT. What could be nicer to have good sex in the evening, fall asleep in the arms of a SYT and in the morning have her take good care of your morning wood? All in the comfort of your hotel room.
Next night. BierGarten to try and pick up a free lancer back to the hotel. Guys many websites talk that there is a risk of these freelancers as we do not know if they have any diseases.Risk of disease is everywhere. I don't think the risk is too big if you take the usual precautions (never go bareback; don't go with junkies or drunks). However as a newbie in Bangkok Biergarten is perhaps not the best place to be. Stick with the agogo or well known oilies and soapies. Why not visit Soi Cowboy for your second night?
I have had my share of 3 sums in India (hope I am not racially discriminated, have to say I am not stinky and absolutely hopeless in bargaining. Zero skills) but what I am looking out for here is total PSE, where I direct the whole scene.In Eden Club you can be the Director of your own porn movie. Eden girls will do exactly what you ask them to do and you can watch yourself in the mirrors on the walls and ceiling.
Have fun in Bangkok, but don't stress it! Go with the flow and take it easy.
Thank you so much for replying to all my queries. Really appreciate the time you have taken to write back.
Yes, I agree, I will cherish the NURU with one and then probably opt for 3 sum at Eden. Cherry website does say they give NURU. Planning to take one with Bell.
I had a good time with freelancers in Jakarta, but may its something different in BKK. Will check out the place, but not sure about the chick.
The only fear I have of gogo is that, I have seen some jerks holding videos of the place and then posting them on youtube and everyones face is visible. Have to say, being a family man, that is kind of risky, albeit the chances may be less than 1% though and I could be exaggerating.
So, thanks again for your time and advice.
Regards.
A.
FruitNinja
02-03-15, 10:24
I have never had experiences in Thailand like Uwillu describes. It has been a couple of years since I picked up an FL, but the last one I did she was great. I have booked numerous MP girls, mostly on outcall, escorts at several agencies and a number of bar girls at several bars on Soi Cowboy and in Nana Plaza. I don't recall a lady doing less than what she said she was willing to do and on a few occasions girls have volunteered to stay longer and offered more, Moojie in particular comes to mind. Many of the girls I now see know me. These girls often say I am jai dee and take very good care of me. I have no problems with the new girls; and when I run into them on subsequent trips many lobby me to take them out again. I'm an average looking man approaching 65. I don't haggle with the girls over money. I don't accept any "up to you" nonsense. I tell them to tell me how much they want. Sometimes they ask for too much and I say no; then they often come down. Usually they quote about what I'm prepared to pay. I tip the girl extra if the sex is good, generously if it's exceptional. Otherwise I don't tip, other than a hundred baht or two for a taxi. I've been known to give a few thousand bahts to ladies who I know from a reliable source are in serious need of money; and I ask for nothing in return. I swore to never forget there were times in my past when I was rescued by the generosity of friends. Simply put, I believe you reap what you sow..I have had one problem in BKK and that was my fault. I think if you approach this like buying a car you will be ok. You have to be very forthright with what options you are looking for. Know what your buying before you hand over your money and you will avoid lemons. Never pay upfront. It's all in the forum. We need a "Rules of The Road" forum. Another thing that goes a long way in getting good service is being reasonable in what you're offering. Find out what the going rate is at the place you're at. Only haggle if she's asking more than the going rate. Don't try and get her to discount the service too much or you'll get discounted service. Common sense. If she's asking 50% more than the going rate then more than likely she doesn't want to go. Don't push it, it won't turn out well.
Paul, I've spent quite a bit of time in Columbia, Cuba, and a few others south of the border. It's been a while but I periodically read those forums just to keep current as it's a heck of a lot closer than BKK. I'm still infatuated with Asia so it won't be for a while. Email me if you want to discuss. I think I have a lot of pics of what's available and I'll give you my take on it. I think you and I are similar mongers.
I think you would like some of the Philippine scene.
In AC right now. Had a good time last night.
FruitNinja
02-03-15, 10:44
I agree with your statement about Mexico, but not your "baiting and switching" in Thailand. I lost count of the girls in Bangkok that agreed to my terms but only reveal they are on their period after we get to the hotel. Or their phone rings when they get back to my room because their girlfriend is sick and they can only do a blowjob and go. Or they get to the hotel, have stomach pain from food they ate earlier so they have to go, but ask for 300 baht for taxi.
This is Thailand, everyone wants to scam you. For bars, fewer customers mean raising the drink prices and barfines. For girls, fewer customers mean raising the price.In that case I would call the deal off, go back and get my BF and move on. Of you have to be more specific with your dealmaking. Ask questions like "are you on your period. " The only time that happened to me was in the Philippines. I took a girl to an island. Four days into the five day trip (just after I fucked her) she came out of the bathroom with her underwear in hand and there was blood on them. She still managed to keep me entertained and offered to do it regardless if I was interested. If it had been the first or second day I probably would have done her on her period. But by the 4th day I'm sure I had gotten more than my monies worth.
This lack of, or substandard performance is such a recurring issue that really doesn't need to be if one negotiates the terms up front. Make sure you know what you're getting, cover all the details that are important to you. And never pay upfront. The girl I pulled last night was very upfront about giving blow jobs "I'm not that good" but I liked her look and took her anyway. But at least I got to decide. It was a good decision and quite frankly she underestimated her abilities. It was a girl that was worthy of Pip Yaegers attention. About 4'10 and 75 lbs.
Awesome Man
02-03-15, 16:33
Just visited Spankys at NEP and they tried to charge me 1250 Baht while my correct bill should be just 750. I always look at my receipt after every new ordered beer, so I new they were wrong and Spankys sorted this out without hesitation when I complained. But I left immediately so that they should know that this isn't ok.
I've toured NEP for four nights in a row now, and all agogos are pretty much the same. Dispite the accident at Spankys earlier today I would say that Spankys is the best agogo at NEP. Fair priced when it comes to drinks, and fully naked and friendly girls.
I went to Soi Cowboy a few nights ago and Crazy House was the winner by far over there.
Tomorrow I'll go to Pattaya and so looking forward to it. I miss the sea view!
After realizing how economical and quick a BJ bar is compared to full service, I decided to compare Dr. BJ's Salon, of which I had heard, to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, which I have visited two or three times now.
Dr. BJ's is right next door to the famous Eden Club on Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. There's Dr. BJ's Salon, which is a blowjob bar, and Dr. BJ's Nuru next door, which is self-explanatory. Most of the girls are waiting outside, but when you enter, the line-up formally. Ladies in white nurse outfits are 700 THB, those in black dresses are 1,000 THB. These are not stunners. As such I chose the best looking one in black, who also had big but obviously fake tits. She was identified only by a L' on a heart pin on her bra.
Dr. BJ's describes it self as a "business class BJ Bar. " At least based on the room I had, this is bullshit. Even if it is a "fusion Beauty Salon / Dr Clinic" as it says on its website, I would not patronize either the beauty salon or the doctor's clinic. For a relatively new establishment, the upstairs seemed awfully rundown. The "leather recliner" looked like a dorm room chair. It may perhaps be leather, but I'm guessing it's imitation. It was not the Barcalounger I had envisioned.
L' brought me to the room, she was friendly and made some small talk. She went out, asking me to take my pants off before she left. When she returned, she brought me over to the sink, which is the same style as the kind used at hair salons. She gave the knob a thorough washing, then I sat down, and she brought out something to kneel on.
Her technique was very good, starting by tonguing my balls, then working her way up to the shaft. She did not take off her bra at first, but I asked her to, and she did, although she said "but I'm shy" more than once.
I lasted a few minutes, then shot it in her mouth. She took all of it and then I believe spit it into a towel. She went out again, then came back and washed me off again. We dressed, I tipped her before we left the cubicle, and then went downstairs.
I was not disappointed with L' or her service, but I was disappointed with a promise of a "business class" experience that was definitely economy. Next time, I'll go back to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s.
In the end, I'd rather have 6 - 1,000 baht freelancers over a photo-shopped escort model anytime. Even the scammers. But they are all disappearing in Bangkok. Every freelancer thinks her pussy is worth 2,500, pregnancy scars in all.If every monger thought as you do, BKK would still be paradise. Kudos. And don't ever change that attitude.
Really? Where are you finding girls for long time P4P in Tijuana? And where are you taking them?Craigslist is full of them. It takes a bit more effort, yes. But the payoff seems to be worth it, so far. And the minimum short time for non-gringofied girls is an hour. Minimum. Subsequent dates net far more time at a far better hourly rate. Case in point, I had a 4-some with a long time fave, a club girl and a girl from CL. Several hours drinking, back to the room for some fun (I would do one while my friend did the other, then we'd change). Total cost, outside of a bucket of beers, was a couple of hotdogs and $120 USD. Two weeks ago I had a 3-some with the above club girl and one of her friends. Several hours of dancing and drinking, followed by a trip to the hotel. Unfortunately everybody was rather drunk and things weren't as good as they might have been. Total cost was a bucket of beers (around $20) and $100 for the girls to share.
As far as where do I take them? Let's see. Movies. Dancing, Clubbing, Dining, just to name a few, if it's a long time. A multiple hour short time is usually a dance club or two, followed by an hour or two in the room.
The issue you've pointed out is "long time. " Back in the "good olde days" it was very easy to waltz into virtually any go-go and nab an attractive lady who had no problem going long time. In fact, payment arrangements were usually "Up to you. " Those days appear to be gone, or at least few and far between. At Mr. Goat pointed out earlier, the "short time" appears to be closer to 30 minutes, the norm in the gringo clubs of Mexico. My "short times" in Tijuana are usually several hours, equivalent to the BKK short time of 15 years ago.
I already know that although for me Bangkok will most definitely be better than Tijuana, it will never be able to supplant my number 1 (Brazil) or my number 2 (Germany). That's because my favorite kind of women for sexing are the Latinas and the white girls over most Asian girls. And, I love fucking my favorite types in the ass! My friend, I can go to Brazil or Germany and butt fuck my life away LOL! I haven't found any other places yet that compare when it comes to anal, and I doubt I ever will. But, spot number 3 is potentially available to be filled by Thailand. We shall see, we shall see. Right now Costa Rica sits at number 3 on my list of "permanent monger member nations". We shall see!Cane,
I think we may have lost sight of the original point. We were discussing alternatives to BKK. DF and BKK are similarly sized cities, with similar infrastructure and a robust P4 P scene. They are not mirror images, but it could be an alternative.
Tijuana is NOT BKK, There can be no comparison. My point was that the average service levels in a typical BKK go-go bar have declined to Tijuana levels and at a generally higher price.
Tijuana has around 1. 5 million people. BKK has between 8 and 10 million, depending on who you ask. Of course there are far more things to see and do in a city as large and varied as BKK. Apples and oranges. If you want a closer apples-to-apples comparison, compare Tijuana to Chiang Mai, a city with about 1. 6 million people. The "touristy" P4 P scene in both cities is limited to an area roughly the same size. You're hard pressed to find a decent go-go in CM, let alone one like Hong Kong club. I know both cities and, sadly, Tijuana comes out on top. Which truly sucks.
If you want a closer apples-to-apples comparison, compare Tijuana to Chiang Mai, a city with about 1. 6 million people. The "touristy" P4P scene in both cities is limited to an area roughly the same size. You're hard pressed to find a decent go-go in CM, let alone one like Hong Kong Club. I know both cities and, sadly, Tijuana comes out on top. Which truly sucks.Based on my extensive RTFF research, I know this to be true. If the choice is Tijuana or Chiang Mai and mongering is your desire, then Tijuana wins no question about it. And not even close, both in terms of quality and distance LOL! I wouldn't mind visiting Chiang Mai if I had more time to spend, but I won't. So Bangkok, Phuket, and Pattaya it shall be! And maybe Chiang Mai some other time. Speaking of Chiang Mai, did you see the Bourdain "Parts Unknown" episode where he went to that city? It was funny because he got tricked into kissing a lady boy, who according to Tony looked just like Ernest Borgnine, right on the lips hahaha! There was also this great sequence that made it look like Bourdain was "on a trip" LOL! I posted that in the "Jokes" section of this site a little while ago.
El Vagabundo
02-04-15, 00:57
I just returned home from my 5 weeks in Thailand. I spent the first 4 weeks in Koh Samui. I was in a detox and fasting spa. It was great! I lost 13 kilos, gained lots of muscle and I feel like a million bucks. The spa was New Leaf Detox Resore and I highly recommend some time there for anyone looking to regain some youth.
While there I started a testosterone therapy. I have to say, after 6 weeks of therapy, I feel like a bull. I am once again waking up with wood and my poor girl friend here at home, 23 years younger than me is walking with a limp. She wants to please and is trying to accommodate but I am like I was when I was 25 again.
After the spa, I went to Bangkok for a week. I stayed in Hotel Mermaid, a corner suite around $60 a night. I recommend this hotel. It was at Soi 19, far enough away from the crazy part but close enough to walk when I wanted. Clean, quite, comfortable. Good security but still able to allow guest in without any walk of shame. Breakfast was included. Nothing fancy but good enough and great coffee. All the staff did there best to accommodate me.
I really enjoyed the BeerGarten. I went two times and although I never pulled a girl, I felt I was amongst my piers. The best girl I had in Bangkok was a street girl standing out in front of some sports bar close to the BeerGarten. 1500 baht and it was money well spent. I did a lot of little massage places on the street, usually paying 300 plus 500 for the happy ending and generally a tip of 200 for a job well done.
I hired a guide / friend for my last 3 days in BKK. Turned out he was fluent in Spanish, English and Thai and he looked like a gringo. We had a great time going all over. We would speak English and then when the locals were speaking Thai, he would tell me what they were saying in Spanish. No one ever caught on. I had a lot of fun with that.
Several times we would go into a massage place, I would ask for what I want, the girls would say something very nasty about us in Thai, we would discuss what to do in Spanish and then as we leave, he would whisper to the girl in native Thai that I am a very rich falang and he is getting 10,000 baht a day to help me find a wife. The look on their faces was priceless!
I went through the Craigs List adds and did some texting back and forth with a couple of older girls. I found one who worked in an office close by. She came to my hotel several times at 6:30 in the morning, woke me up, gave me a blow job and then a nice message and then a good fuck and then left for work. A perfect way to start the day. Whats not to like.
All in all, a great vacation.
I want to go back in May or June for 2 months. If anyone has experience with short term apartment rentals, please let me know.
Based on my extensive RTFF research, I know this to be true. If the choice is Tijuana or Chiang Mai and mongering is your desire, then Tijuana wins no question about it. And not even close, both in terms of quality and distance LOL! I wouldn't mind visiting Chiang Mai if I had more time to spend, but I won't. So Bangkok, Phuket, and Pattaya it shall be! And maybe Chiang Mai some other time. Speaking of Chiang Mai, did you see the Bourdain "Parts Unknown" episode where he went to that city? It was funny because he got tricked into kissing a lady boy, who according to Tony looked just like Ernest Borgnine, right on the lips hahaha! There was also this great sequence that made it look like Bourdain was "on a trip" LOL! I posted that in the "Jokes" section of this site a little while ago.LOL. Yes, I saw that and it's saved on my DVR. Being something of a foodie, and traveler, I really dig him and his show.
I liked that episode but I won't be eating blood soup anytime soon. If the GF won't eat it, I ain't going to touch it.
It was his 2009 "No Reservations" show that turned me on to the "train to nowhere" that departs BKK and goes to the Mae Klong market. Definitely an interesting day trip and hardly anybody knows about it.
Hi all,
First time visitor soon to Bangkok and Pattaya and I was wondering if massage and soapy establishments more often than not accept credit card?
Thanks
Alaska Manman
02-04-15, 06:23
I am heading to Thailand for the first time next month. I will have a couple of days in Bangkok on the way to a rather remote part of the country. I would like to stay near the Don Mueang airport so I can catch a flight from there.
On the top of my wish list are a Bubble and or Nuru Massage and second to be able to go to a place where you pick the ladies sitting behind glass.
Any tips on hotels and places to visit greatly appreciated. Also on how to get between between the two airports.
P.S. Any tips on Railay Beach. Sounds pretty dead there from what I have been able to find out.
Thank-you.
Hi guys,
I'm in Bangkok right now (until Sunday) so if anyone wants to meet up do drop a pm, I'll login for a few minutes every day. I'll post full reports of my experiences when I get time.
Anyways, a quick question. Anyone encountered Russian ladyboys? Or ladyboys who could pass for Russian / central asian? I was just outside and on the main sukhumvit road, roughly opposite majestic suite I was propositioned by a "Russian girl" who had dark hair, fairly tall, wearing black framed glasses. She had a fairly deep voice and altho a nice body her chin looked kinda manly. Her asking price was only 1,000 Baht for 3 hours which is also suspiciously low.
Hi all,
First time visitor soon to Bangkok and Pattaya and I was wondering if massage and soapy establishments more often than not accept credit card?
ThanksYou don't want to give them your CC info. Cash is king.
I just returned home from my 5 weeks in Thailand. I spent the first 4 weeks in Koh Samui. I was in a detox and fasting spa. It was great! I lost 13 kilos, gained lots of muscle and I feel like a million bucks. The spa was New Leaf Detox Resore and I highly recommend some time there for anyone looking to regain some youth.
While there I started a testosterone therapy. I have to say, after 6 weeks of therapy, I feel like a bull. I am once again waking up with wood and my poor girl friend here at home, 23 years younger than me is walking with a limp. She wants to please and is trying to accommodate but I am like I was when I was 25 again.
.13 Kilos in 4 weeks? That is the sort of weight loss that folks who have a duodenal bypass achieve! If you gained a lot of muscle (which weighs a lot more than fat), you probably lost the equivalent of even more kilos of fat. I am sure (or hope) you know the risks of such severe weight-loss which can only be brought about by extremely low calorie diet, in your case in conjunction with a very punishing muscle building regime. Throwing some testosterone supplementation on top of that at the same time could have serious effects on your body long term, especially depending on whether you supplemented with pills or using other delivery systems. I hope that you are just joking about this. But if not, I hope for your sake that you are under the care of a medic given the effect this kind of behaviour can have on your heart and liver, let alone anything else.
Wolvenvacht
02-04-15, 20:17
I am heading to Thailand for the first time next month. I will have a couple of days in Bangkok on the way to a rather remote part of the country. I would like to stay near the Don Mueang airport so I can catch a flight from there.You realize Don Muang is really out of the center of Bangkok and thus far away from the usual mongering places?
On the top of my wish list are a Bubble and or Nuru Massage and second to be able to go to a place where you pick the ladies sitting behind glass.Bubble massage? Do you mean a soapy massage? There are many soapy and oily massage places that have a "fishbowl" where you can choose your lady. Check out the massage places thread.
Any tips on hotels and places to visit greatly appreciatedCheck out the Bangkok Hotels thread. For "places to visit", perhaps you can go to any of the common tourist websites? Tripadvisor springs to mind.
. Also on how to get between between the two airports.There is a free shuttle bus between Bangkok airport and Don Muang.
P.S. Any tips on Railay Beach. Sounds pretty dead there from what I have been able to find out.You can always take a longtail boat at Railay Beach and go to Ao Nang. There are some girlie bars there. At Railay, the best you can expect are some massage places which offer happy endings.
Thank-you.You're welcome. Don't forget to post some tripreports.
Wolvenvacht
02-04-15, 20:20
You don't want to give them your CC info. Cash is king.As far as I know, only Eden Club accepts credit-cards and I've never had a problem with a CC-payment there.
El Vagabundo
02-04-15, 22:20
Yes, 13 kilos is really big. Add to that the adding of muscle and it is really impressive. The story behind the story is complex. Part of detoxing includes daily colemas (enemas). It is amazing what gets built up in your colon over 60 years. Even after weeks and weeks of no solid food, the nastiest, gross, disgusting things were coming out. I was told you can have between 5 and 15 kilos of old dried waste stuck to the walls of your lower intestines. That was a big part of the weight loss. The liquid diet was 700 calories a day and between the walking, water aerobics and weights, I was burning 4,000 calories a day.
This was a very controlled environment, with a daily visit to the nurse, a nutritionist and other experts.
One more note, I have been on Losortan and a diuretic for the last 5 years. I weened off of the meds during the first week and for the last week, my blood pressure ran steady at 120/80.
Of course out side this very controlled environment I am still struggling with my same demons, but I do feel like a kid again.
So, are there health risks involved, for sure. But the same can be said of being 30 kilos overweight, taking beta blockers everyday for the rest of your life, and chewing Viagra like candy just to get a half ass woody.
By the way, I am injecting the testosterone every other day. I am trying to get my level up to between 1000 and 1200.
My goal is to die by getting shot in the back at the age of 99 by a jealous husband while drilling his wife and leaving a check to pay my funeral expenses that gets returned "Insufficient Funds".
I came into this world broke via pussy and I am going out the same way, I hope!
Day 1:
So I arrived Tuesday morning and made my way to the hotel via the air link train to Makkasan and then a cab the rest of the way. Arrived about midday-ish and shown to my room. Despite being tired I didn't rest long, unpacked a few bits, showered, had a snack and went out to get money exchanged, get sim card and look around. After some food at Soi Arab looked for a shop to buy some cheap booze, I only see some 7/11's nearby and small bottles of branded spirits really aren't much cheaper than the hotel so some pointers on where to get good prices on booze would be nice, I'm not into trying local beer as I'm not a big drinker and would rather stick to what I know.
After this I retired to hotel to shower and change, had a couple vodka with red bull and had a look around the Nana area before heading into nana itself. By now it was about 10 pm and I surveyed the ground floor as I walked by the GoGos I spotted Rainbow 2, having heard good things about the Rainbow GoGos I decided to make this my first stop but as I approached a man stopped me and said it was members only. I don't believe this but I guess it could be because I'm of Indian origin (albeit born and raised in the UK), I would have thought the fact that I speak perfect English with a strong British accent would make that obvious but I guess this guy was an idiot.
One of the girls outside London Calling invited me in, this is a new GoGo that's replaced Angelwitch 2. She told me that the bar is 100% ladies. No ladyboys whatsoever. This convinced me to give it a try. Went in and was seated in the first row in front of the stage, about a dozen girls "dancing" at a time with a change of girls after 20 minutes or so. Most of the girls looked pretty good so I ordered myself a cocktail and asked about the bar fine. The waitress went and got my drink and brought the Papasan over who explain the pricing to me, ladies drinks 200 baht, barfine 800 baht for gogo girls and 1000 baht for coyotes. He also said the girls charged a fixed rate go to back to hotel, 2 K short time and 4 K long time. Despite the pricey drinks the other rates seemed quite reasonable to me given the number of attractive girls here. After a little while I made a selection and Papasan came over, he told me that girl isn't barfineable, which although disappointing is better than finding out after paying for a lady drink, so I salute Papasan's honesty, I picked another girl and was told that she'll only go to the short time rooms and not the hotel, again saved myself 200 baht on a wasted lady drink. I definitely do not want to use a filthy ST room. Finally 3rd choice Patih came over, bought her a lady drink and chatted a little. Patih was 22, fairly tall with a nice toned figure. Paid for the barfine and made our way back to the hotel.
In the room we both showered and got down to action, kissing on lips with some tongue action and on to BJ. This is where things began to go downhill, her technique was poor, very light BJ just doesn't go it for me, no tongue action, pretty robotic. Put on a condom and tried sex, wanted her on top but she was tired within minutes and having not had any rest after my 20 hour journey I wasn't full of energy either, the redbull had worn off and Patih's skills in the sack (or lack thereof) weren't getting me going. Spent quite some time gently going in missionary but this just wasn't doing it for me, tried to get her to go back on top again but again she was tired within minutes. Back to me on top again but by now I was getting less and less horny. After spending an hour of gentle fucking with me doing almost all the work she began complaining that she had to go back to dance. I figured I wasn't going to pop in her anytime soon so I gave her the 2000 baht and sent her on her way. For some reason she gave me her number and expected me to return on day 2. I'm happy to share it if for some reason anyone wants it. So in the end a disappointing evening for me, but London Calling did seem like a good place despite the pricey drinks, the fixed prices for ST and LT and Papasan's honesty (I. E. Not making me waste money on lady drinks for non-fineable ladies) was a big plus. Unfortunately I won't be going back since my research tells me Patih will probably be highly offended if I go there and barfine a different girl!
Day 2:
Spent much of the day sleeping, woke up for the complimentary breakfast, which was decent quality but really lacking in quantity! Went back to sleep till lunch time and then tried out Thailand's McDonalds. Found a place that does Brazilian waxing for men, I'd been considering trying it lately so I got one done! Now I got a smooth junk for the girls, LOL! Tonight I wanted to check out some of the non-mongering nightlife before going mongering so headed to Ocean Lounge on Soi 33. This is a bar with swimming pool and DJs that had good reviews, having got there however, found it dead and was told there wasn't anything happening that night. Despite it supposedly being open 7 days a week!
Well, headed back toward the hotel to cool down as it was very humid and hot, it was this time that I encountered a free lancer so said she was Russian. She did have a white complexion and judging from the nose I'd say she could well be Tatar or Uzbek, however her chin and voice hinted that it could be a ladyboy. Her asking price was 1000 baht for 3 hours which seemed suspiciously low too. I told her I wasn't there for mongering and got away from her. Now, she did have a nice body and given my love of BJs the chin wouldn't really be an issue if I don't look at it, however the thought that there could be a dick down there and the price being unbelievably low made upper brain over rule lower brain.
After a short break at hotel went to Soi Arab and grace hotel to check the scene there before heading to Levels club to check out the non-monger scene again. Had a 250 baht drink and chatted to some of the clubbers before heading out and stopping at Australian Pub, where a live band was performing with acoustic instruments. Sat down with a Breezer and watched for a bit, the singer asked if anyone had a request and one customer (who did actually sound Australian) wanted Iron Maiden! Well, hats off to the lady, she did a pretty impressive rendition of The Trooper! After another drink, made my way to Rajah hotel as I was considering a Russian girl because I'm really hoping for a nice BJ, entered the coffee shop and saw not a single girl! Asked the guy at reception about them and he took me upstairs to one of the hotel rooms with 3 Russian girls. He told me they charge 3,100 Baht for ST. One girl was asleep, didn't want to wake her, other girl spoke no English and third girl said none of them do uncovered BJ. Disappointed I decided to go to Nana. By now it was almost 1 am, headed up to the first floor (that's 2nd floor for our American friends), popped into one GoGo and quickly popped out, was passing Rainbow 4 so decided to take a look but once again I'm stopped, told it's member's only. This time I decided to act like I've frequented this place in the past and know it's not members only. Guy tells me the policy was brought in "last week" and that I can simply become a member for 1,200 Baht. HELL NO! I continue browsing, getting accosted by lady boys a couple times and politely declining. Went into another bar, name escapes me, and have a drink with a girl there. The papasan was a ladyboy but he assured me that all the other staff were 100% girl. After some chatting I politely declined the barfine as the girl didn't look that good once she'd gotten close to me. Finally I was considerig calling it a night but was politely invited in to Mandarin. Attractive and chatty girl named Yuna (I think) followed me up and sat down with me. She soon prompted me to buy a lady drink for her so I got both of us a drink and asked about the rates. 1000 baht barfine and she was 3000 for ST. I had decided before arriving here that my first time with any new girl will be ST. Anyways, Yuna quickly downed her drink and soon wanted another, for 160 baht I expect to get more than 5-10 mins time to chat to a girl but she was hot and energetic so I decided go let her have another drink. She downed this one even faster and then went on to the stage to dance. In all honesty she was by far the most enthusiastic girl on stage but her rapid downing of lady drinks told me she may well employ the same tactics elsewhere. After coming off stage she immediately wanted another drink but I declined and decided to call it a night. It was now approaching 2 am and despite not popping a load for a couple days now I just wasn't horny enough to take chances on girls that I don't think will give great service.
So a disappointing couple days so far, and my monies getting eaten away on overpriced booze already! Tomorrow I'm thinking of trying a soapy instead, from what I've read the environment may be more suited to my taste (I. E. Where I feel relaxed and know how much time I'll get and what I'll spend. I would always choose good sex with a hot girl over cheap sex any day but all this wading through ladyboys and buying lady drinks that come to nothing really annoyed me today).
Day 1:
So I arrived Tuesday morning and made my way to the hotel via the air link train to Makkasan and then a cab the rest of the way. Arrived about midday-ish and shown to my room. Despite being tired I didn't rest long, unpacked a few bits, showered, had a snack and went out to get money exchanged, get sim card and look around. After some food at Soi Arab looked for a shop to buy some cheap booze, I only see some 7/11's nearby and small bottles of branded spirits really aren't much cheaper than the hotel so some pointers on where to get good prices on booze would be nice, I'm not into trying local beer as I'm not a big drinker and would rather stick to what I know.
After this I retired to hotel to shower and change, had a couple vodka with red bull and had a look around the Nana area before heading into nana itself. By now it was about 10 pm and I surveyed the ground floor as I walked by the GoGos I spotted Rainbow 2, having heard good things about the Rainbow GoGos I decided to make this my first stop but as I approached a man stopped me and said it was members only. I don't believe this but I guess it could be because I'm of Indian origin (albeit born and raised in the UK), I would have thought the fact that I speak perfect English with a strong British accent would make that obvious but I guess this guy was an idiot.
One of the girls outside London Calling invited me in, this is a new GoGo that's replaced Angelwitch 2. She told me that the bar is 100% ladies. No ladyboys whatsoever. This convinced me to give it a try. Went in and was seated in the first row in front of the stage, about a dozen girls "dancing" at a time with a change of girls after 20 minutes or so. Most of the girls looked pretty good so I ordered myself a cocktail and asked about the bar fine. The waitress went and got my drink and brought the Papasan over who explain the pricing to me, ladies drinks 200 baht, barfine 800 baht for gogo girls and 1000 baht for coyotes. He also said the girls charged a fixed rate go to back to hotel, 2 K short time and 4 K long time. Despite the pricey drinks the other rates seemed quite reasonable to me given the number of attractive girls here. After a little while I made a selection and Papasan came over, he told me that girl isn't barfineable, which although disappointing is better than finding out after paying for a lady drink, so I salute Papasan's honesty, I picked another girl and was told that she'll only go to the short time rooms and not the hotel, again saved myself 200 baht on a wasted lady drink. I definitely do not want to use a filthy ST room. Finally 3rd choice Patih came over, bought her a lady drink and chatted a little. Patih was 22, fairly tall with a nice toned figure. Paid for the barfine and made our way back to the hotel.
In the room we both showered and got down to action, kissing on lips with some tongue action and on to BJ. This is where things began to go downhill, her technique was poor, very light BJ just doesn't go it for me, no tongue action, pretty robotic. Put on a condom and tried sex, wanted her on top but she was tired within minutes and having not had any rest after my 20 hour journey I wasn't full of energy either, the redbull had worn off and Patih's skills in the sack (or lack thereof) weren't getting me going. Spent quite some time gently going in missionary but this just wasn't doing it for me, tried to get her to go back on top again but again she was tired within minutes. Back to me on top again but by now I was getting less and less horny. After spending an hour of gentle fucking with me doing almost all the work she began complaining that she had to go back to dance. I figured I wasn't going to pop in her anytime soon so I gave her the 2000 baht and sent her on her way. For some reason she gave me her number and expected me to return on day 2. I'm happy to share it if for some reason anyone wants it. So in the end a disappointing evening for me, but London Calling did seem like a good place despite the pricey drinks, the fixed prices for ST and LT and Papasan's honesty (I. E. Not making me waste money on lady drinks for non-fineable ladies) was a big plus. Unfortunately I won't be going back since my research tells me Patih will probably be highly offended if I go there and barfine a different girl!
Day 2:
Spent much of the day sleeping, woke up for the complimentary breakfast, which was decent quality but really lacking in quantity! Went back to sleep till lunch time and then tried out Thailand's McDonalds. Found a place that does Brazilian waxing for men, I'd been considering trying it lately so I got one done! Now I got a smooth junk for the girls, LOL! Tonight I wanted to check out some of the non-mongering nightlife before going mongering so headed to Ocean Lounge on Soi 33. This is a bar with swimming pool and DJs that had good reviews, having got there however, found it dead and was told there wasn't anything happening that night. Despite it supposedly being open 7 days a week!
Well, headed back toward the hotel to cool down as it was very humid and hot, it was this time that I encountered a free lancer so said she was Russian. She did have a white complexion and judging from the nose I'd say she could well be Tatar or Uzbek, however her chin and voice hinted that it could be a ladyboy. Her asking price was 1000 baht for 3 hours which seemed suspiciously low too. I told her I wasn't there for mongering and got away from her. Now, she did have a nice body and given my love of BJs the chin wouldn't really be an issue if I don't look at it, however the thought that there could be a dick down there and the price being unbelievably low made upper brain over rule lower brain.
After a short break at hotel went to Soi Arab and grace hotel to check the scene there before heading to Levels club to check out the non-monger scene again. Had a 250 baht drink and chatted to some of the clubbers before heading out and stopping at Australian Pub, where a live band was performing with acoustic instruments. Sat down with a Breezer and watched for a bit, the singer asked if anyone had a request and one customer (who did actually sound Australian) wanted Iron Maiden! Well, hats off to the lady, she did a pretty impressive rendition of The Trooper! After another drink, made my way to Rajah hotel as I was considering a Russian girl because I'm really hoping for a nice BJ, entered the coffee shop and saw not a single girl! Asked the guy at reception about them and he took me upstairs to one of the hotel rooms with 3 Russian girls. He told me they charge 3,100 Baht for ST. One girl was asleep, didn't want to wake her, other girl spoke no English and third girl said none of them do uncovered BJ. Disappointed I decided to go to Nana. By now it was almost 1 am, headed up to the first floor (that's 2nd floor for our American friends), popped into one GoGo and quickly popped out, was passing Rainbow 4 so decided to take a look but once again I'm stopped, told it's member's only. This time I decided to act like I've frequented this place in the past and know it's not members only. Guy tells me the policy was brought in "last week" and that I can simply become a member for 1,200 Baht. HELL NO! I continue browsing, getting accosted by lady boys a couple times and politely declining. Went into another bar, name escapes me, and have a drink with a girl there. The papasan was a ladyboy but he assured me that all the other staff were 100% girl. After some chatting I politely declined the barfine as the girl didn't look that good once she'd gotten close to me. Finally I was considerig calling it a night but was politely invited in to Mandarin. Attractive and chatty girl named Yuna (I think) followed me up and sat down with me. She soon prompted me to buy a lady drink for her so I got both of us a drink and asked about the rates. 1000 baht barfine and she was 3000 for ST. I had decided before arriving here that my first time with any new girl will be ST. Anyways, Yuna quickly downed her drink and soon wanted another, for 160 baht I expect to get more than 5-10 mins time to chat to a girl but she was hot and energetic so I decided go let her have another drink. She downed this one even faster and then went on to the stage to dance. In all honesty she was by far the most enthusiastic girl on stage but her rapid downing of lady drinks told me she may well employ the same tactics elsewhere. After coming off stage she immediately wanted another drink but I declined and decided to call it a night. It was now approaching 2 am and despite not popping a load for a couple days now I just wasn't horny enough to take chances on girls that I don't think will give great service.
So a disappointing couple days so far, and my monies getting eaten away on overpriced booze already! Tomorrow I'm thinking of trying a soapy instead, from what I've read the environment may be more suited to my taste (I. E. Where I feel relaxed and know how much time I'll get and what I'll spend. I would always choose good sex with a hot girl over cheap sex any day but all this wading through ladyboys and buying lady drinks that come to nothing really annoyed me today).Dude, go get an oily. Snow White, Mango, or Cherry. Don't waste your time in GoGos. Overpriced in every sense.
Yes, 13 kilos is really big. Add to that the adding of muscle and it is really impressive. The story behind the story is complex. Part of detoxing includes daily colemas (enemas). It is amazing what gets built up in your colon over 60 years. Even after weeks and weeks of no solid food, the nastiest, gross, disgusting things were coming out. I was told you can have between 5 and 15 kilos of old dried waste stuck to the walls of your lower intestines. That was a big part of the weight loss. The liquid diet was 700 calories a day and between the walking, water aerobics and weights, I was burning 4,000 calories a day.
This was a very controlled environment, with a daily visit to the nurse, a nutritionist and other experts.
One more note, I have been on Losortan and a diuretic for the last 5 years. I weened off of the meds during the first week and for the last week, my blood pressure ran steady at 120/80.
Of course out side this very controlled environment I am still struggling with my same demons, but I do feel like a kid again.
So, are there health risks involved, for sure. But the same can be said of being 30 kilos overweight, taking beta blockers everyday for the rest of your life, and chewing Viagra like candy just to get a half ass woody.
By the way, I am injecting the testosterone every other day. I am trying to get my level up to between 1000 and 1200.
My goal is to die by getting shot in the back at the age of 99 by a jealous husband while drilling his wife and leaving a check to pay my funeral expenses that gets returned "Insufficient Funds".
I came into this world broke via pussy and I am going out the same way, I hope!Although you didn't ask, I'm going to butt in here.
The colon cleanse thing is an absolute fraud. This idea stems from Victorian era medicine. Back then some doctors were convinced that you built up loads of undigested food in your lower intestine, etc. , etc. , and the only way to purge these "toxins" is by laxatives, high colonics, etc. And in like 100% of "testimonials" the patient claims that tons of weird junk flushed out of their colon. "Wow! Old cornflakes. I haven't eaten cornflakes in 10 years. " That sort of thing.
Of course, that was before the endoscope. Now a doctor can shove one of these miracle devices up your ass and look around. And guess what? No caked on crud. No old cornflakes. Nada. Zip. Zilch. The colon is an amazing self-cleaning device. About the only exception would be if you had a bad case of diverticulosis. But people do NOT have 20 - 30 pounds of waste cluttering up their colon. Sorry, just ain't true.
If you feel better, it's a good thing, and more power to you. I'm posting this in case somebody else reads it and thinks there's something to this so-called therapy.
Dude, go get an oily. Snow White, Mango, or Cherry. Don't waste your time in GoGos. Overpriced in every sense.I would have absolutely marched back there the next night and barfined somebody else. Dayum. 3000+ baht for nothing? "Oh, I'm tired. Oh, I need to get back and dance. " WTF? A session with Rosy Palm sounds better.
LittleBigMan
02-05-15, 08:40
Although you didn't ask, I'm going to butt in here.
The colon cleanse thing is an absolute fraud. This idea stems from Victorian era medicine. Back then some doctors were convinced that you built up loads of undigested food in your lower intestine, etc. , etc. , and the only way to purge these "toxins" is by laxatives, high colonics, etc. And in like 100% of "testimonials" the patient claims that tons of weird junk flushed out of their colon. "Wow! Old cornflakes. I haven't eaten cornflakes in 10 years. " That sort of thing.
Of course, that was before the endoscope. Now a doctor can shove one of these miracle devices up your ass and look around. And guess what? No caked on crud. No old cornflakes. Nada. Zip. Zilch. The colon is an amazing self-cleaning device. About the only exception would be if you had a bad case of diverticulosis. But people do NOT have 20 - 30 pounds of waste cluttering up their colon. Sorry, just ain't true.
If you feel better, it's a good thing, and more power to you. I'm posting this in case somebody else reads it and thinks there's something to this so-called therapy.Like you do not believe in stuff like that but to each his own whatever works for you. For me every year or so I take three days and just eat fruits and thereafter it comes right out? Personally I'm due for my colon checkup soon.
As for that other stuff unless you test count is really low I stay away from that stuff, just found a friend who took it for his reason now he's got cancer!
Although you didn't ask, I'm going to butt in here.
The colon cleanse thing is an absolute fraud. This idea stems from Victorian era medicine. Back then some doctors were convinced that you built up loads of undigested food in your lower intestine, etc. , etc. , and the only way to purge these "toxins" is by laxatives, high colonics, etc. And in like 100% of "testimonials" the patient claims that tons of weird junk flushed out of their colon. "Wow! Old cornflakes. I haven't eaten cornflakes in 10 years. " That sort of thing.
Of course, that was before the endoscope. Now a doctor can shove one of these miracle devices up your ass and look around. And guess what? No caked on crud. No old cornflakes. Nada. Zip. Zilch. The colon is an amazing self-cleaning device. About the only exception would be if you had a bad case of diverticulosis. But people do NOT have 20 - 30 pounds of waste cluttering up their colon. Sorry, just ain't true.
If you feel better, it's a good thing, and more power to you. I'm posting this in case somebody else reads it and thinks there's something to this so-called therapy.Spot on. And in fact colonics can be a dangerous thing. Want to clean yourself out? Take some Epsom salts. Will do just as good a job.
Hi guys,
I'm in Bangkok right now (until Sunday) so if anyone wants to meet up do drop a pm, I'll login for a few minutes every day. I'll post full reports of my experiences when I get time.
Anyways, a quick question. Anyone encountered Russian ladyboys? Or ladyboys who could pass for Russian / central asian? I was just outside and on the main sukhumvit road, roughly opposite majestic suite I was propositioned by a "Russian girl" who had dark hair, fairly tall, wearing black framed glasses. She had a fairly deep voice and altho a nice body her chin looked kinda manly. Her asking price was only 1,000 Baht for 3 hours which is also suspiciously low.My general rule is that if you think it might be a ladyboy it probably is. And 1000 baht for 3 hours is crazy from any one these days. My guess is something more will take place like a knock on your head or a drug in your drink. I would stay away from whatever it is.
I once had swiped my CC at a Pattaya Establishment called Galaxy (Not a place to go in Thailand) for a lap dance. My bank called on the International No and blocked my card saying it may be misused later. They issued a new card by the time I went back home. That was the first and last time I ever took a chance with my CC. As fellow ISGians suggested its better to cash and carry with this hobby.
Hi all,
First time visitor soon to Bangkok and Pattaya and I was wondering if massage and soapy establishments more often than not accept credit card?
Thanks
I have just returned from a nearly 3 week stay in Thailand. I hope this trip report will add something different to what is usually shared.
Through my previous trips I realized that I enjoy more when I can spend a few days with a girl. Some BMs report from time to time about the online dating sites. On another forum I have read extensive discussions on how it can be very fruitful but only if you live in Thailand. I decided to give it a go any ways. I figured, if nothing came out of it, then I could always fall back on oilies, soapies, the freelancers and go-gos!! I setup a profile and starting making contacts about 6 weeks ahead of my trip. I created a standard message and sent it to any girl that looked interesting. Most of the girls probably receive a lot of messages and I figured that it was best to send messages to only those who were online. In most cases they almost immediately read the message and replied (or not). I logged in at least 2-3 times a day. Must confess, it did take a fair bit of time and effort.
I made it clear from the beginning that I was not looking for a serious relationship. Given the strong bias against the Indians in Thailand, I also made it very clear in my profile that I am British Indian, and if anyone had any issues with that then not to bother!
I would say about 60% of the girls with whom an initial contact got made just fell off. The conversation didn't go that far or wasn't interesting. With the girls where there was interest, I asked for their Line ids and it was much easier to chat there. The one downside of the dating websites is that one does not know how many dates it will take before the girl sleeps with you, or if she will even sleep with you! That's been one the most frequently stated reasons for why the sites don't probably work for short time visitors. I just made sure that I pushed it just enough with the girls I was chatting to and it was amazing how quickly it becomes clear which way it will go. I think I lost a few good ones as a result of this approach but by the time I landed in BKK, I had 8 girls that I was sure would sleep on the first date and few more maybes. Interestingly, I never met 2 of the 8 girls and the girl that I ended up spending most time with was on my 'not sure' list.
In terms of how these girls looked, I would say the looks varied from 6-9. The sex varied from awesome to mind blowing with each one of them. They felt genuinely into it. With the girls I spent longer time with, I did not have to initiate it each time. Even when we were outside doing other things, some of the girls were very naughty but very discreet. In fact that made it all the more fun. They would talk dirty, or just brush their hands discreetly. One of the girls had me finger her when we were watching a movie, and at the same time they would all act very 'proper' in public. It really created some great sexual tension which would then end up in passionate love making. It really felt like being with a real girlfriend in the early stages of a relationship.
I was amazed how little it took to sleep with these girls. A dinner and some drinks in a decent place was good enough! Most did show interest in going away on a short holiday and I made it very clear I was not planning on doing that and that was not a show stopper at all! I did treat the girls to nice restaurants and bars but no money was ever exchanged. I am also amazed by the capacity Thai girls have for partying. To be able to get drunk and be up till 3 am and then go to work at 8 am!!
The girl I spent the most time with was 24, beautiful, spoke fluent English and Spanish, had a university degree, worked in an office and was super horny each day first thing in the morning!! I still cannot for the life of me figure out why she would want to spend all that time with me. It was clear to her that I was not going to get into a relationship, she could easily get guys to sleep with her. But who am I to complain!
It was a little bit of a challenge juggling all these girls but because I had not made rigid plans it all worked out pretty well in the end! Of the 19 days in Thailand I ended up spending all the time in Bangkok because there were all these girls to play with. Went on some amazing 'dates', had great conversations, watched movies, went to restaurants that I would not venture to on my own, places where I was the only non-Thai, and did many naughty things as well! The girls being at work during the day gave me time to sleep in and do some of my own work as well!
I did make a couple of trips to Nana and Cowboy, but did not bar fine anyone. I found Spankys to be most fun. Just did not feel like visiting any of the massage parlours. I took 2 girls from Climax and sampled twice from The Den. I really liked the Den, very well done and the quality of girls definitely better than the beer garden. All the girls gave great service but must say that compared to the TF girls, these girls felt too professional. Maybe I have been spoilt!
So in a nutshell, I would agree that TF would work much better if one was living in Thailand but with a little bit of prep and work it can work for the 2 week millionaires as well! I have been back for two days. To be honest, I feel quite lost. Just want to take a flight back to Thailand! Any tips on how get over this hang over will be much appreciated.
El Vagabundo
02-05-15, 14:38
Although you didn't ask, I'm going to butt in here.
The colon cleanse thing is an absolute fraud.Spoken like a true Republican!
Day 1:
So a disappointing couple days so far, and my monies getting eaten away on overpriced booze already! Tomorrow I'm thinking of trying a soapy instead, from what I've read the environment may be more suited to my taste (I. E. Where I feel relaxed and know how much time I'll get and what I'll spend. I would always choose good sex with a hot girl over cheap sex any day but all this wading through ladyboys and buying lady drinks that come to nothing really annoyed me today).Mate,
I would highly recommend visiting Climax and sample some free lancers from there. It closes at 3 am. The going rate is 3000 bhat for an overnight and 2000 for ST. There may be some exceptions, but that's what I ended up with most of the times. They will usually quote more, but stick to your guns and every single time they agree. I would suggest making it very clear whether you are looking for ST or LT. Its on Soi 11, basement of Ambassdor Hotel. Sleeping alone two nights in a row in Bangkok must be a punishable offence Hope the rest of your trip goes great!
Old New Guy
02-05-15, 16:37
13 Kilos in 4 weeks? That is the sort of weight loss that folks who have a duodenal bypass achieve! If you gained a lot of muscle (which weighs a lot more than fat), you probably lost the equivalent of even more kilos of fat. I am sure (or hope) you know the risks of such severe weight-loss which can only be brought about by extremely low calorie diet, in your case in conjunction with a very punishing muscle building regime. Throwing some testosterone supplementation on top of that at the same time could have serious effects on your body long term, especially depending on whether you supplemented with pills or using other delivery systems. I hope that you are just joking about this. But if not, I hope for your sake that you are under the care of a medic given the effect this kind of behaviour can have on your heart and liver, let alone anything else.You speak like one these fearful mainstream doctors that to a 110 Kg obese would recommend "reducing calories intake and moderate exercise". My ass. The only thing that this guarantees is that the person would remain an (obese) patient for life.
Anything from 10 Kgs above ideal weight can be effectively solved with one approach only: bootcamp. 13 Kgs in 4 weeks is a little above 3 Kgs a week, thatis definitely achievable. Well done El Vagabundo, even for testosterone taking, now you can be proud of you achievements while Simian thinks of a ways of arranging his belly folds without hurting himself.
So a disappointing couple days so far, and my monies getting eaten away on overpriced booze already! Tomorrow I'm thinking of trying a soapy instead, from what I've read the environment may be more suited to my taste (I. E. Where I feel relaxed and know how much time I'll get and what I'll spend. I would always choose good sex with a hot girl over cheap sex any day but all this wading through ladyboys and buying lady drinks that come to nothing really annoyed me today).Your trip announcement says you'll be in Bangkok until Feb 8, are you interested in checking out the Thai places near Saphan Kwai? I'm in Bangkok this weekend and solo, but I don't speak Thai, so it might be easier for two unintelligible foreigners to get along with the Thais than just one.
Let me know if you want to go Friday, Feb 7, tomorrow night.
Although you didn't ask, I'm going to butt in here.
The colon cleanse thing is an absolute fraud. This idea stems from Victorian era medicine. Back then some doctors were convinced that you built up loads of undigested food in your lower intestine, etc. , etc. , and the only way to purge these "toxins" is by laxatives, high colonics, etc. And in like 100% of "testimonials" the patient claims that tons of weird junk flushed out of their colon. "Wow! Old cornflakes. I haven't eaten cornflakes in 10 years. " That sort of thing.
Of course, that was before the endoscope. Now a doctor can shove one of these miracle devices up your ass and look around. And guess what? No caked on crud. No old cornflakes. Nada. Zip. Zilch. The colon is an amazing self-cleaning device. About the only exception would be if you had a bad case of diverticulosis. But people do NOT have 20 - 30 pounds of waste cluttering up their colon. Sorry, just ain't true.
If you feel better, it's a good thing, and more power to you. I'm posting this in case somebody else reads it and thinks there's something to this so-called therapy.Just to second this opinion, if you want to cleanse your colon, you can do what they do to patients prior to an colonscopy (when the specialist wants to check your colon for cancer and polyps, which is to put you on a cleansing medication (such as sodium picosulfate but there are a number of others in use in different countries) along with a boiled chicken diet for a prescribed number of days (usually a day or two) - your colon will be as clean as a whistle after that.
Yes, you will feel really good after a colon cleanse but the one involving the medication is easier, quicker and safer.
You speak like one these fearful mainstream doctors that to a 110 Kg obese would recommend "reducing calories intake and moderate exercise". My ass. The only thing that this guarantees is that the person would remain an (obese) patient for life.
Anything from 10 Kgs above ideal weight can be effectively solved with one approach only: bootcamp. 13 Kgs in 4 weeks is a little above 3 Kgs a week, thatis definitely achievable. Well done El Vagabundo, even for testosterone taking, now you can be proud of you achievements while Simian thinks of a ways of arranging his belly folds without hurting himself.Your interest in my body is totally one-way, ONG! I have no interest in sharing what you imagine my belly to be (including your obsession with the imaginary belly folds) with you.
I simply expressed concern for El V and gave my reasons. Apart from the danger to his organs and his life, the problem with what you term "bootcamp" is that he will "yoyo" back to his original weight pretty quick. El V took my friendly concerns like a gentleman while you acted the troll.
By the way, someone can be 110 kilos and not be obese if he has sufficient height to lower his body-mass index below 30. But then I am sure you knew that anyway, ONG, didn't you.
Old New Guy
02-05-15, 21:13
Your interest in my body is totally one-way, ONG! I have no interest in sharing what you imagine my belly to be (including your obsession with the imaginary belly folds) with you.
I simply expressed concern for El V and gave my reasons. Apart from the danger to his organs and his life, the problem with what you term "bootcamp" is that he will "yoyo" back to his original weight pretty quick. El V took my friendly concerns like a gentleman while you acted the troll.
By the way, someone can be 110 kilos and not be obese if he has sufficient height to lower his body-mass index below 30. But then I am sure you knew that anyway, ONG, didn't you.I'm happy to disagree with you and your trite arguments.
I absolutely cannot believe what I'm seeing in this thread! Bangkok is one of the top mongering destinations in the world, and here we have people bickering back and forth about proper techniques for weight loss and cleansing of the colon! Really? Can we please get back on topic? If you want to argue about colon cleansing, can we at least make it relevant? Perhaps like, what a tute who intends to offer anal must do in order to prepare her anus for anal sex. Aahahahahaha!
DwayneJohnson
02-05-15, 23:37
I have been back for two days. To be honest, I feel quite lost. Just want to take a flight back to Thailand! Any tips on how get over this hang over will be much appreciated.Welcome to the club.
I may physically be out of Thailand but Thailand can not go out of my mind. This is one of the sweetest hangover that you could latch on to till next trip. I see my colleagues whining about their married life everyday, I see below average girls treating their boyfriends like trash, I see terrible oppression of male species everyday and my Thailand hangover never goes away.
On a serious note, I have been searching for a software engineer jobs in Thailand, only thing that has dissuade me is pathetic salary offered in comparison with my current earnings. I dream of opening my own company with headquarters in Bangkok. .
Welcome to the club.
I may physically be out of Thailand but Thailand can not go out of my mind. This is one of the sweetest hangover that you could latch on to till next trip. I see my colleagues whining about their married life everyday, I see below average girls treating their boyfriends like trash, I see terrible oppression of male species everyday and my Thailand hangover never goes away.
On a serious note, I have been searching for a software engineer jobs in Thailand, only thing that has dissuade me is pathetic salary offered in comparison with my current earnings. I dream of opening my own company with headquarters in Bangkok. .If you are American you can do that without too many problems. US citizens are the only ones that can own a company 100% without a Thai partner under the treaty of amity. The only obligation is to employ 4 local Thais for every Farang employee. And you have to put in a minimum investment of THB 3,000,000 which however can be used as working capital later.
Easy!
On a serious note, I have been searching for a software engineer jobs in Thailand, only thing that has dissuade me is pathetic salary offered in comparison with my current earnings. I dream of opening my own company with headquarters in Bangkok. .This is a typical reaction from guys who visit SE Asia for the first time for a few weeks and then realize how dull and boring their life is "back home". You said Thailand DJ but the same thing happens for newbies in Philippines too (and probably other places like Vietnam).
I did lots of short-term work in Thailand and Philippines in a previous life in Australia and when the opportunity to work in Philippines (but on a foreigner salary) was offered to me I took it very eagerly (for the same reasons as no doubt you want a job here too).
That was 18 years ago. I am still here, but ONLY because of the work. My area of work is stimulating and challenging and I am helping the locals develop in many ways; none of my pleasure in staying here has anything to do with mongering.
If I didn't have my daily work, I would go crazy.
You eventually realize you are living in a country with a different culture completely. Everything is different, and the novelty soon wears off.
Going back home for a holiday becomes one of life's greatest events to look forward to.
There has to be a better reason for displacing yourself from a good well-paid job than the availability of beautiful women. You honestly need to consider a whole host of other factors, none of which seem very important at first but gradually become more and more important the longer you stay here.
MikeKelimir
02-06-15, 05:01
Guys,
I have read back about 11 pages of posts, and I hope I don't get flamed for posting this, but I need some advice as of Jan 2015. I am finally planning my trip to Thai in March to April this year. I plan to work during the day and stay about 30 days.
Ideally, I would like to go out regularly to clubs, drink some, party some, P4P some, etc. And also explore the city like a normal tourist. I've lived outside the US for about 10 years throughout Latin America, so I am comfortable outside of the US. But, I've never been further east than Germany.
Anyway I was thinking to get an apartment in the area called "Sukhumvit Road" which from my understanding is one of the nicer parts of the city. The apartment I found runs $700 USD for about 30 days and includes internet, gym, etc. Can someone tell me, if they were to say in BK, is this a good spot? And the price?
Also, I am younger and prefer some nightlife and also maybe want to hit the soapy things, MP's and I would love to find a place that is a large brothel / bar 24 x7 that has other English-speaking guys I could fall back on. I have no issue of finding a "GF" or two, but if I don't find what I'm looking for P4P p is an option.
I'm not wanting to travel all over the country mainly just because I want to chill for a month without traveling but also have fun 24 x7 (days or nights) depending on work. Maybe 2-3 chill drinking nights a week, 2 party nights, and then some touristy stuff.
So. My questions are: 1) area of town, 2) USD costs of MP's, bars, etc (no street walker types. I'm into the model types), 3) subway vs. Taxi, etc.
Thanks in advance.
Member #4591
02-06-15, 05:40
I have just returned from a nearly 3 week stay in Thailand. I hope this trip report will add something different to what is usually shared.
Through my previous trips I realized that I enjoy more when I can spend a few days with a girl. Some BMs report from time to time about the online dating sites. On another forum I have read extensive discussions on how it can be very fruitful but only if you live in Thailand. I decided to give it a go any ways. I figured, if nothing came out of it, then I could always fall back on oilies, soapies, the freelancers and go-gos!! I setup a profile and starting making contacts about 6 weeks ahead of my trip. I created a standard message and sent it to any girl that looked interesting. Most of the girls probably receive a lot of messages and I figured that it was best to send messages to only those who were online. In most cases they almost immediately read the message and replied (or not). I logged in at least 2-3 times a day. Must confess, it did take a fair bit of time and effort.
I made it clear from the beginning that I was not looking for a serious relationship. Given the strong bias against the Indians in Thailand, I also made it very clear in my profile that I am British Indian, and if anyone had any issues with that then not to bother!
I would say about 60% of the girls with whom an initial contact got made just fell off. The conversation didn't go that far or wasn't interesting. With the girls where there was interest, I asked for their Line ids and it was much easier to chat there. The one downside of the dating websites is that one does not know how many dates it will take before the girl sleeps with you, or if she will even sleep with you! That's been one the most frequently stated reasons for why the sites don't probably work for short time visitors. I just made sure that I pushed it just enough with the girls I was chatting to and it was amazing how quickly it becomes clear which way it will go. I think I lost a few good ones as a result of this approach but by the time I landed in BKK, I had 8 girls that I was sure would sleep on the first date and few more maybes. Interestingly, I never met 2 of the 8 girls and the girl that I ended up spending most time with was on my 'not sure' list.
In terms of how these girls looked, I would say the looks varied from 6-9. The sex varied from awesome to mind blowing with each one of them. They felt genuinely into it. With the girls I spent longer time with, I did not have to initiate it each time. Even when we were outside doing other things, some of the girls were very naughty but very discreet. In fact that made it all the more fun. They would talk dirty, or just brush their hands discreetly. One of the girls had me finger her when we were watching a movie, and at the same time they would all act very 'proper' in public. It really created some great sexual tension which would then end up in passionate love making. It really felt like being with a real girlfriend in the early stages of a relationship.
I was amazed how little it took to sleep with these girls. A dinner and some drinks in a decent place was good enough! Most did show interest in going away on a short holiday and I made it very clear I was not planning on doing that and that was not a show stopper at all! I did treat the girls to nice restaurants and bars but no money was ever exchanged. I am also amazed by the capacity Thai girls have for partying. To be able to get drunk and be up till 3 am and then go to work at 8 am!!
The girl I spent the most time with was 24, beautiful, spoke fluent English and Spanish, had a university degree, worked in an office and was super horny each day first thing in the morning!! I still cannot for the life of me figure out why she would want to spend all that time with me. It was clear to her that I was not going to get into a relationship, she could easily get guys to sleep with her. But who am I to complain!
It was a little bit of a challenge juggling all these girls but because I had not made rigid plans it all worked out pretty well in the end! Of the 19 days in Thailand I ended up spending all the time in Bangkok because there were all these girls to play with. Went on some amazing 'dates', had great conversations, watched movies, went to restaurants that I would not venture to on my own, places where I was the only non-Thai, and did many naughty things as well! The girls being at work during the day gave me time to sleep in and do some of my own work as well!
I did make a couple of trips to Nana and Cowboy, but did not bar fine anyone. I found Spankys to be most fun. Just did not feel like visiting any of the massage parlours. I took 2 girls from Climax and sampled twice from The Den. I really liked the Den, very well done and the quality of girls definitely better than the beer garden. All the girls gave great service but must say that compared to the TF girls, these girls felt too professional. Maybe I have been spoilt!
So in a nutshell, I would agree that TF would work much better if one was living in Thailand but with a little bit of prep and work it can work for the 2 week millionaires as well! I have been back for two days. To be honest, I feel quite lost. Just want to take a flight back to Thailand! Any tips on how get over this hang over will be much appreciated.Excellent report on how you incorporated the dating sites and line app. Frankly what you did has been done by many before you. These girls get tons of messages from guys with planned holidays in Thailand. Even though you were very straight forward with the girls in the back of their mind they have the word sponsor. The power of the pussy can convince many a man to do things out of the norm like falling in love with a working girl or FL, or office girl / part time FL, even just the serial farang daters. Anyways great report.
Guys,
I am a semi-regular visitor to BKK, heading to town next weekend (about a year since my last trip) and having read most of the recent reports, I am concerned that quality in the gogos seems to be going way down. I have basically concluded that I should be hitting Baccara, Sharks and particularly Crazy House. I am sorry to hear Rainbow 4 has gone downhill, and that Nana Plaza seems a shadow of its former glory. Given the poor reports on Soi Cowboy and Nana, I am even considering going to Pat Pong to check out Bada Bing and Pagoda. I used to really like Safari. About 15 years ago. Anyway, if anybody can suggest a gogo with a strong line up of hot young girls, other than the above, I would appreciate it. I prefer LT to ST, and love a threesome, as long as its quality.
Thanks in advance,
Gonzo8
Member #4591
02-06-15, 05:58
Tango and wechat. Some pics / profiles show up with numbers and suggestive invitations. Scams or what is the hooker protocol for these apps? Looking for starved matures or compensated dating so not really in to romancing collage girls.Stay away from those profiles. Talk with the normal looking ones. Scan their photos to know more about them and look for English speakers compared to Thai speakers. I have had the most luck with the profiles in Thai language.
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PrinceRaj2126
02-06-15, 07:43
I have a simplest of the questions or doubts like, there are so many beer gardens in Sukumuvit area right? One I know is Soi 5 Guillvers beer garden?
Where are the others & which Sois?
Is the below one Soi 5 Beer Garden? Please throw some light fellow members.
Cheers and stay horny.
That afternoon I happened to cross Beer Garden. Just popped in, out of curiosity and I think punting will never be the same for me again! Met the most amazing girl ever, and no I am not in love!
I got a drink, sat down and looked around didn't see anyone that interested me till I saw this girl sitting with a few friends in the corner towards the back. Went upto her and sat next to her. Given my brown skin was met with a little apprehension. But once I spoke I guess she figured my accent, asked me where I was from and when I said London suddenly seemed to relax. Later on we had some great conversations about Indians in Bangkok. But I guess enough has already been discussed about it here. Her name is Nok and she usually works from the BG. Is 5 ft5 ish, Chinese origin, good English, very sexy body, great ass and amazing friendly person. She agreed for 1500ST. We walked back to the hotel and then after the showers, the fun began. Another superstar in bed. Lots of kissing, great BBBJ, lovely sex and responds amazingly to DATY. Was full of very natural maoning and screaming and even came a couple of times. When we finished, it was around 5 pm and because I was having a great time. (Including some great conversations) with her I asked her for LT. She asked 3000 and I agreed.
Once again, thanks guys for answering all the questions, sharing your experirnces. If I can help in any way. Would love to!
El Vagabundo
02-06-15, 11:36
we have people bickering back and forth about proper techniques for weight loss and cleansing of the colon! Really? Can we please get back on topic? If you want to argue about colon cleansing, can we at least make it relevant?Not exactly the condition of my colon, but my / our over all sexual health and how it relates to banging chicas. In my day, probably before you knew what wood was for, 3 chicas a day was not unreasonable. Overtime, things change and I want to be there again. Those of us who are, shall I say, a little long in the tooth, are discussing, not bickering issues of health.
Who knows, some of the girls I banged last month could be the granddaughters of girls I banged the first time I was in the land of smiles.
You could be from the drip that got away, my child!
So do not sell us so short.
Monomensch
02-06-15, 17:29
Guys,
I have read back about 11 pages of posts,Read 100 pages and you'll know it all.
Excellent report on how you incorporated the dating sites and line app. Frankly what you did has been done by many before you. These girls get tons of messages from guys with planned holidays in Thailand. Even though you were very straight forward with the girls in the back of their mind they have the word sponsor. The power of the pussy can convince many a man to do things out of the norm like falling in love with a working girl or FL, or office girl / part time FL, even just the serial farang daters. Anyways great report.I did not get the sense at all with any of the girls that sponsorship was the target (or maybe they are so smooth that it will come much much later!) and that's why I cannot figure out why do they do this? Is it for a good meal and drinks? That does not sound right. Maybe the more experienced that throw some light?
I have a simplest of the questions or doubts like, there are so many beer gardens in Sukumuvit area right? One I know is Soi 5 Guillvers beer garden?
Where are the others & which Sois?
Is the below one Soi 5 Beer Garden? Please throw some light fellow members.
Cheers and stay horny.The one I mentioned in my post is the one on Soi 7. I think that is 'The Beer Garden' and my understanding is that that is the place being referred to when people say BG.
Wolvenvacht
02-06-15, 19:57
Anyway I was thinking to get an apartment in the area called "Sukhumvit Road" which from my understanding is one of the nicer parts of the city. The apartment I found runs $700 USD for about 30 days and includes internet, gym, etc. Can someone tell me, if they were to say in BK, is this a good spot? And the price?Sukhumvit Road runs from the centre of Bangkok to the border of Cambodia and is one of the longest roads in Thailand. So your appartment "on Sukhumvit Road" could almost be anywhere in Bangkok, all the way up to the outskirts and far beyond.
Guys,
I have read back about 11 pages of posts, and I hope I don't get flamed for posting this, but I need some advice as of Jan 2015. I am finally planning my trip to Thai in March to April this year. I plan to work during the day and stay about 30 days.
Ideally, I would like to go out regularly to clubs, drink some, party some, P4P some, etc. And also explore the city like a normal tourist. I've lived outside the US for about 10 years throughout Latin America, so I am comfortable outside of the US. But, I've never been further east than Germany.
Anyway I was thinking to get an apartment in the area called "Sukhumvit Road" which from my understanding is one of the nicer parts of the city. The apartment I found runs $700 USD for about 30 days and includes internet, gym, etc. Can someone tell me, if they were to say in BK, is this a good spot? And the price?
Also, I am younger and prefer some nightlife and also maybe want to hit the soapy things, MP's and I would love to find a place that is a large brothel / bar 24 x7 that has other English-speaking guys I could fall back on. I have no issue of finding a "GF" or two, but if I don't find what I'm looking for P4P p is an option.
I'm not wanting to travel all over the country mainly just because I want to chill for a month without traveling but also have fun 24 x7 (days or nights) depending on work. Maybe 2-3 chill drinking nights a week, 2 party nights, and then some touristy stuff.
So. My questions are: 1) area of town, 2) USD costs of MP's, bars, etc (no street walker types. I'm into the model types), 3) subway vs. Taxi, etc.
Thanks in advance.We may have another one here. Young, handsome, well-off guy is going to snowball Bangkok. Set up shop in a nice apartment and start dating Thai models. As a last resort he'll consider paying. :)
Maybe you didn't mean to come off sounding like that, but it did give me a chuckle.
First, as Wolfie said, Suk is a very, very, long street. Sort of like saying you have an apartment somewhere on Wilshire Blvd. You'll need the cross-street or at least the name of the neighborhood for us to make any intelligent recommendation as far as your apartment goes.
It sounds like you're asking for something like the Sportsman's Lodge in San Jose, or the equivalent in the DR. There are no 24 x7 bar / brothels with resident English speakers in BKK. Although you wouldn't know it by Pattaya Soi 6, brothels are illegal in Thailand. About your best bet would be to become a regular at one of the various "English" or "Irish" pubs. The wisdom of that could be debated, but at least you'll be able to mingle with English speakers.
Meeting and bedding Thai models may be a bit more of a challenge. You'll not find any in the Farang bars. You may have some luck with the various on-line sites and apps. The Thai venues will have the best lookers, overall, but you'll probably need to have some proficiency in the language. The genuine Hi-so model types probably won't give a Farang the time of day, unless you're driving a high-end BMW.
I'm not sure how you're going to do a lot of "touristy" stuff without traveling around. None of it's going to come to you. There's stuff to see in BKK, but, frankly, if you've seen one wat, you've seen them all. If you limit your sightseeing to weekends, you'll have enough in BKK to keep you occupied for, maybe, a month. Any more often and you'll need to travel outside of the city.
So, to answer you questions:
1. Need more specifics.
2. The MP threads are full of pricing.
3. If your destination is anywhere near a BTS or MRT station, use them. Otherwise you'll have to use a taxi. Unless you do have the high-end BMW.
Anyway I was thinking to get an apartment in the area called "Sukhumvit Road" which from my understanding is one of the nicer parts of the city. The apartment I found runs $700 USD for about 30 days and includes internet, gym, etc. Can someone tell me, if they were to say in BK, is this a good spot? And the price?
Also, I am younger and prefer some nightlife and also maybe want to hit the soapy things, MP's and I would love to find a place that is a large brothel / bar 24 x7 that has other English-speaking guys I could fall back on.If you are on Sukumvit, just make sure you are near either Nana or Asoke Stations. Then you are in the middle of nightlife, you can walk to hundreds of bars and restaurants. In Thailand, all these massage parlours are basically big brothels. You pick a girl in a fish bowl or outside of fish bowl called sideline girls then you go up to the rooms. You can eat drink and screw all inside the parlours. You like high end model types, many parlours on Ratchada Road, Rama 9 Road, and Petchaburi Road will have many model class girls, many parlours also have special catalogues with models pictures and profiles, they can call them for your viewing.
You need to research these parlours, simply too many to name them. But you are in Sukumvit, you are always short taxi ride from all these massage parlours. The sideline to model class girl cost about 2500-6000.
There are also so many so called oily massage places, many near Phrom Phong station near Emporium also on Sukumvit, they are not as fancy as these big massage parlours, but offer full service, also can find some nice model types, many have their websites, you should read the massage sections. Lots of store infos and lady infos.
Don't worry about English, all these venues get tons of foriegn customers a day, many parlours get mostly foreigners, and some oily places even foriegners only. If you have a higher budget, P4P can be quite enjoyable in Bangkok.
Crocodilexp
02-07-15, 14:28
I was thinking to get an apartment in the area called "Sukhumvit Road" which from my understanding is one of the nicer parts of the city. The apartment I found runs $700 USD for about 30 days and includes internet, gym, etc. Can someone tell me, if they were to say in BK, is this a good spot? And the price?
Sukhumwit Road starts in central Bangkok and goes on for several hundred kilometers all the way to the Cambodian border. $700 (23 k baht) is not cheap, if price is a concern, passable accommodation can be found for 8 k-18 k baht. Do not commit to anything before seeing it, and checking out the neighborhood. Hotels can be cheap here, and staying in a hotel for a week first (while you look for a more permanent place) is a good investment.
Regarding your other questions, there are very, very few model types in the foreigner-oriented nightlife industry (freelancers, oilies, bars). Most of the women in that segment are well in the bottom 30% of Thai women by looks. Sure, high-end prostitutes exist, but they'd mostly be in Thai oriented venues... providing so-so service at relatively high prices (3k-10k baht/h, often just one shot), and usually not speaking great English.
Please be careful about telling newbies to take taxi to places without explaining the commission / kickback system that might apply.
Also, don't be scared of the BTS.
Etaoin2003
02-07-15, 16:41
So. My questions are: 1) area of town, 2) USD costs of MP's, bars, etc (no street walker types. I'm into the model types), 3) subway vs. Taxi, etc.
1. Lower Sukhumvit. This means the west end of the street, the area between the Phloen Chit skytrain station and Thong Lo station. The BTS skytrain makes it very easy to getup and down the street while laughing at the traffic below, but you can actually walk this whole area in not too much time. Nana Plaza is near the Nana station, Soi Cowboy is near the Asoke station, there are oilies near Thong Lo, and Soi 33 has what's left of the hostess bars named after impressionist painters.
2. USD costs: Converting from thb to usd is easy; it's a touch over 30 baht to the dollar. This means 300 thb (basic massage) is a little under ten bucks. Typical short-time prices are 1000 to 2000 thb (figure $30-60) depending on situation and negotiating skills. Soapies and oilies will run higher but the prices are posted and you can do the math easily. Plan to tip.
3. BTS Skytrain and MRT Subway are clean, fast, safe, and cheap. San Saep canal transit boats and Chao Phraya transit boats are very, very cheap and a good way to do some sightseeting while getting around. Taxis are cheap and very underpaid, so drivers are motivated to scam you. Do not tell them the name of your destination, but rather the general location, demand that they use the meter, and then be nice and add a tip. Tuk-tuk drivers are unpredictable, most are scammers who will divert you to gem and rug shops unless you're Thai.
HTH.
Guys,
I am a semi-regular visitor to BKK, heading to town next weekend (about a year since my last trip) and having read most of the recent reports, I am concerned that quality in the gogos seems to be going way down. I have basically concluded that I should be hitting Baccara, Sharks and particularly Crazy House. I am sorry to hear Rainbow 4 has gone downhill, and that Nana Plaza seems a shadow of its former glory. Given the poor reports on Soi Cowboy and Nana, I am even considering going to Pat Pong to check out Bada Bing and Pagoda. I used to really like Safari. About 15 years ago. Anyway, if anybody can suggest a gogo with a strong line up of hot young girls, other than the above, I would appreciate it. I prefer LT to ST, and love a threesome, as long as its quality.
Thanks in advance,
Gonzo8I would not say that any of the gogos that I visit from time to time were overall very good but the thing is that we all have different tastes and most gogos have at least a couple decent girls. And all we need at any one time is one. Or two. Occasionally three. You just have to be patient and look around.
ActionOriented
02-08-15, 06:19
Please be careful about telling newbies to take taxi to places without explaining the commission / kickback system that might apply.
Also, don't be scared of the BTS.Agreed. No point in being scared of the BTS or MRT, they are efficient and easy to use. Also, google maps has BKK charted out really well, so even if one gets lost or wants to give general instructions to the cabbie, its easy to find your way back.
FruitNinja
02-08-15, 08:16
You speak like one these fearful mainstream doctors that to a 110 Kg obese would recommend "reducing calories intake and moderate exercise". My ass. The only thing that this guarantees is that the person would remain an (obese) patient for life.
Anything from 10 Kgs above ideal weight can be effectively solved with one approach only: bootcamp. 13 Kgs in 4 weeks is a little above 3 Kgs a week, thatis definitely achievable. Well done El Vagabundo, even for testosterone taking, now you can be proud of you achievements while Simian thinks of a ways of arranging his belly folds without hurting himself.As a matter of fact I think anything radical is the answer. I'm old enough and know enough people that have tried everything from cleanses to pills to operations. I have a friend that did lipo. Yeah it worked for about six months. What they don't tell you is the time after the operation is a sort of boot camp in itself. He's back to the weight he was. Operations work but you got to change your lifestyle. Ad why would you want to put your body through that stress at your age? Makes no sense. There's no better way to slim down that stepping away from the table. Putting the cheeseburger down. I eat enough fro two people. Seriously! But it's more a function of what I eat. Breakfast: High in protein and sugar. But the sugar isn't from donuts. It's from fruit, and plenty of it. My body knows what to do with it. Very efficiently. Most of my protein comes from stuff like eggs, and chicken. Yes I'll have a few pieces of bacon and a pancake periodically but not often. I even get McDonalds every once in a while. Maybe once a month. Love Big Macs and the fries are damn good. I drink but not every day. I get the once in a while pizza and wash it down with a beer. I also walk. I'm in Singapore right now. Ate a huge breakfast and then went touring for four hours. Stopped back at the hotel and had a bit of ham and a small salad. I'll walk more this afternoon and then eat a big dinner. High in protein and some vegetables or more fruit. I'm 57,5'11" weigh about 180, which is maybe 5 lbs over my ideal but I stay within the 175-185 range as long as I do what I just described. I veered from that about 10 years ago and I was up to 195 in 3 months. My cholesterol is perfect. Slight hypertension but I think that's a hereditary thing. I watch my salt intake and all is good. The problem with processed shit is there is so much sugars, fats, and salts, and in the form that confuses your body. Another misconception is all this diet food. Your body has no way to differentiate sweet. It' treats anything your mouth that tastes sweet the same way. Starts a process. An apple your body knows how to process. I'm thinking twinkle gets stored as fat as your body is confused. (guess on my part).
As in most things in life there are no quick fixes. You got to put work into anything. Hunting pussy too.
Now back to pussy. Wrong forum but I visited Geylang in Singapore last night. Lot's of availability both in the houses and the streets. The street stuff was kinda rough. I suppose if you wait there's always the diamond that will pop up. I've not seen many here or in BKK. Pattaya, yes. Had quite a few of them last year. Going to take a break for a few days. I've been on the road for over a month. I'll be back in Mikati or AC soon and want to conserve a little of that energy for this cute little honeys before I finally head back to the arctic circle like place I call home.
Well maybe I'll take a break. The only time I ever fail at moderation is with pussy. I'm not sure that's that bad of a thing. As long as one keeps it in perspective. No falling in love with bar girls.
As in most things in life there are no quick fixes. You got to put work into anything. Hunting pussy too.Agree 100%. Lifestyle changes are the only answer. Anything radical will only last so long. I am 49 yrs old, 5'11, and I weight 77 kgs or 170 lbs. Been at this weight for the better part of 20 years. Before that I was a bit thinner. Been in the gym religiously since '94 and have always been careful with food a bit. At one point I got up to 82 kg because I was hitting the beer 5 nights a week. Now it is a max of two drinks once or twice a week, and if I cannot drink craft beer, top shelf spirits, or good wine I pass altogether. Choices; that's what it is all about.
The one I mentioned in my post is the one on Soi 7. I think that is 'The Beer Garden' and my understanding is that that is the place being referred to when people say BG.You are correct. "The" beer garden by excellence is the one in soi 7. 100 mtrs on the left from the Sulhumvit junction.
Go there before it disappears.
I have strange feelings it won't be up for too long se the whole area has been dumped for reconstruction, maybe one more mall?
Girls are up and down there. Some old timer, some young just off the bus from Issan and poor English. Prices should be 1000 b. For ST. Sometime less, sometime you want to tip them afterwards?
Agreed. No point in being scared of the BTS or MRT, they are efficient and easy to use. Also, google maps has BKK charted out really well, so even if one gets lost or wants to give general instructions to the cabbie, its easy to find your way back.And buy a Rabbit Card, prepaid. You can relate any amount, works fine and audio. No need to que up to get your ticket, after having sufficient coins. I keep one since two or three years. Always working even if there is a 5-6 months pause between one trip and the other.
Guys,
I am a semi-regular visitor to BKK, heading to town next weekend (about a year since my last trip) and having read most of the recent reports, I am concerned that quality in the gogos seems to be going way down. I have basically concluded that I should be hitting Baccara, Sharks and particularly Crazy House. I am sorry to hear Rainbow 4 has gone downhill, and that Nana Plaza seems a shadow of its former glory. Given the poor reports on Soi Cowboy and Nana, I am even considering going to Pat Pong to check out Bada Bing and Pagoda. I used to really like Safari. About 15 years ago. Anyway, if anybody can suggest a gogo with a strong line up of hot young girls, other than the above, I would appreciate it. I prefer LT to ST, and love a threesome, as long as its quality.
Thanks in advance,
Gonzo8Arrived in Bangkok last night and was really haggard after several days of partying in Hong Kong. Had a couple of beers outside Tilac bar in Soi Cowboy and suddenly got the idea that I should visit an old favourite of mine; Sharks. Must say the quality here is just top class. I can hardly think of any go-go that can match them. Even Happy and Baccara.
In Pattaya will struggle in this competition. I go there often and the quality is also consistent. Last night I was almost sober. So I do not view it with "beer eyes" every night! What is there not to like in this bar? I see no "average" ladies. They are all beautiful! No big bellies, no mothers with stretchmarks. Just top notch young pussy! And they are fun to talk to as well. Waiters that do not push drinks is also a bonus. Barfine is 600 bath but I was just to tired to try anything this night. If you know any better place in SC please tell me.
DwayneJohnson
02-08-15, 17:41
I did not get the sense at all with any of the girls that sponsorship was the target (or maybe they are so smooth that it will come much much later!) and that's why I cannot figure out why do they do this? Is it for a good meal and drinks? That does not sound right. Maybe the more experienced that throw some light?It could be one of the below reasons:
1) Girl is very smooth operator and you will pay big time later.
2) You are her "get out of thailand" card (Visa sponsorships).
3) She is one of those serial farang daters for whom having farang boyfriend is status symbol.
4) She is just as much bored of single life as you and wanted to fuck away the pain.
5) She just want to taste something different.
6) She is really in love with you.
I also don't get why my thai girlfriend is still my girlfriend. These are mysteries of life that one should enjoy but not investigate.
It could be one of the below reasons:
1) Girl is very smooth operator and you will pay big time later.
2) You are her "get out of thailand" card (Visa sponsorships).
3) She is one of those serial farang daters for whom having farang boyfriend is status symbol.
4) She is just as much bored of single life as you and wanted to fuck away the pain.
5) She just want to taste something different.
6) She is really in love with you.
I also don't get why my thai girlfriend is still my girlfriend. These are mysteries of life that one should enjoy but not investigate.Thanks for your response. Yes those are all possibilties. But your last line is top notch wisdom! Cheers!
Going to Thailand for the first time. Been to Costa Rica, Cartagena Co, Sosua DR 4 Times, Puerto Rico once. Is there a Google map for both Bangkok and Pattaya that is in circulation. Its my birthday trip so my friend and I want to stay close to the action in Bangkok and Pattaya so we don't spend our entire vacay in taxi trying to get somewhere. Something fairly modern but not too pricey 1500 Baht max a nigh and close to the action. Can anyone make a recommendation.
I thank you in advance.
Johnny Bangkok
02-08-15, 22:58
Going to Thailand for the first time. Been to Costa Rica, Cartagena Co, Sosua DR 4 Times, Puerto Rico once. Is there a Google map for both Bangkok and Pattaya that is in circulation. Its my birthday trip so my friend and I want to stay close to the action in Bangkok and Pattaya so we don't spend our entire vacay in taxi trying to get somewhere. Something fairly modern but not too pricey 1500 Baht max a nigh and close to the action. Can anyone make a recommendation.
I thank you in advance.I stay at PJ WaterGate (Not WaterGate) in Pratunum Bangkok. Nice hotel for Thailand- Remember the level of standards are much less then Western countries. Average about 1300 THB. Close to shopping and not to far from Nana Plaza 10 minutes by BTS.
Safe mongering.
Going to Thailand for the first time. Been to Costa Rica, Cartagena Co, Sosua DR 4 Times, Puerto Rico once. Is there a Google map for both Bangkok and Pattaya that is in circulation. Its my birthday trip so my friend and I want to stay close to the action in Bangkok and Pattaya so we don't spend our entire vacay in taxi trying to get somewhere. Something fairly modern but not too pricey 1500 Baht max a nigh and close to the action. Can anyone make a recommendation.
I thank you in advance.https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?oe=UTF8&source=embed&ie=UTF8&msa=0&mid=zaqzsApeE0tY.k6cbW5nDvHi8
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?msa=0&mid=zyeWgDmL3bl8.kENMZcTGTj-c
Not too hard to do, just look at the map and pick a girl friendly hotel in your price range.
http://www.bargirlfriendlyhotels.com/bangkok-girl-friendly-hotels/ (click on pattaya for the pattaya hotels).
Old New Guy
02-08-15, 23:00
Going to Thailand for the first time. Been to Costa Rica, Cartagena Co, Sosua DR 4 Times, Puerto Rico once. Is there a Google map for both Bangkok and Pattaya that is in circulation. Its my birthday trip so my friend and I want to stay close to the action in Bangkok and Pattaya so we don't spend our entire vacay in taxi trying to get somewhere. Something fairly modern but not too pricey 1500 Baht max a nigh and close to the action. Can anyone make a recommendation.
I thank you in advance.All you have to do is NOT to read the "Bangkok and Pattaya hotels" respective section. And be careful NOT not purchase a forum membership, so that you will have no access to private message, and your postings will be delayed.
Member #4698
02-08-15, 23:08
Basically you want to stay near Sukhumvit Road, the main drag, anywhere from Soi 2 (Nana) to Soi 23 (Asok / Cowboy) up to Soi 39/ Soi 26 (Phrom Phong) and all the oily massage shops). Read the BKK hotel forum for more specific hotel recommendations.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?oe=UTF8&gl=au&ll=13.729943,100.567389&ie=UTF8&msa=0&spn=0.014549,0.018775&z=16&hl=en&mid=zSwFcBcbnzww.ktUBr9Cd5bKI
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?oe=UTF8&gl=au&ll=13.747722,100.567474&ie=UTF8&msa=0&spn=0.214099,0.299377&z=12&hl=en&mid=zjzhsbPblLuU.kq8MVd2CjycA
Day 1:
So I arrived Tuesday morning and made my way to the hotel via the air link train to Makkasan and then a cab the rest of the way. Arrived about midday-ish and shown to my room. Despite being tired I didn't rest long, unpacked a few bits, showered, had a snack and went out to get money exchanged, get sim card and look around. After some food at Soi Arab looked for a shop to buy some cheap booze, I only see some 7/11's nearby and small bottles of branded spirits really aren't much cheaper than the hotel so some pointers on where to get good prices on booze would be nice, I'm not into trying local beer as I'm not a big drinker and would rather stick to what I know.
After this I retired to hotel to shower and change, had a couple vodka with red bull and had a look around the Nana area before heading into nana itself. By now it was about 10 pm and I surveyed the ground floor as I walked by the GoGos I spotted Rainbow 2, having heard good things about the Rainbow GoGos I decided to make this my first stop but as I approached a man stopped me and said it was members only. I don't believe this but I guess it could be because I'm of Indian origin (albeit born and raised in the UK), I would have thought the fact that I speak perfect English with a strong British accent would make that obvious but I guess this guy was an idiot..I have seen Indians let in at Rainbow 2. The girls love them. Rainbow 4 I've seen many Indians be blocked from going inside.
Member #4591
02-09-15, 05:16
All you have to do is NOT to read the "Bangkok and Pattaya hotels" respective section. And be careful NOT not purchase a forum membership, so that you will have no access to private message, and your postings will be delayed.We were all newbies before so maybe I will give this answer a shot.
Member #4591
02-09-15, 05:22
Going to Thailand for the first time. Been to Costa Rica, Cartagena Co, Sosua DR 4 Times, Puerto Rico once. Is there a Google map for both Bangkok and Pattaya that is in circulation. Its my birthday trip so my friend and I want to stay close to the action in Bangkok and Pattaya so we don't spend our entire vacay in taxi trying to get somewhere. Something fairly modern but not too pricey 1500 Baht max a nigh and close to the action. Can anyone make a recommendation.
I thank you in advance.Ok so let's see. I suggest you go to booking dot com and search for your hotels in Thailand, great service. Secondly please read through the forums hotel sections for Pattaya and Bangkok. Many members have recommended and posted regarding the best choices. Thirdly contribute enough to the forum to be awarded a senior level membership so you can exchange messages with the rest of us regarding your questions or purchase the $25 dollar yearly membership. Please don't get discouraged by some of the members telling you to read in a sarcastic way. Actually for a newbie it is really overwhelming and with all the useless dribble, bickering, and unrelated posts it is sometimes easier to just ask rather than read through so much. Cheers mate and happy mongering.
Member #4591
02-09-15, 05:25
I stay at PJ WaterGate (Not WaterGate) in Pratunum Bangkok. Nice hotel for Thailand- Remember the level of standards are much less then Western countries. Average about 1300 THB. Close to shopping and not to far from Nana Plaza 10 minutes by BTS.
Safe mongering.Good second post sir. Way to start off posting in a positive manner. Keep contributing!
Going to Thailand for the first time. Been to Costa Rica, Cartagena Co, Sosua DR 4 Times, Puerto Rico once. Is there a Google map for both Bangkok and Pattaya that is in circulation. Its my birthday trip so my friend and I want to stay close to the action in Bangkok and Pattaya so we don't spend our entire vacay in taxi trying to get somewhere. Something fairly modern but not too pricey 1500 Baht max a nigh and close to the action. Can anyone make a recommendation.
I thank you in advance.I've stayed at the Majestic Suites, on main road at corner of Soi 4. If you book in advance you should get a room for less than 1500 baht and its definitely one of the better 3 star hotels I've stayed in, also right opposite Soi Arabe so a variety of cuisines available within a short walk and BTS Nana station 6 minutes walk away.
ActionOriented
02-09-15, 15:11
.....good things about the Rainbow GoGos I decided to make this my first stop but as I approached a man stopped me and said it was members only. I don't believe this but I guess it could be because I'm of Indian origin (albeit born and raised in the UK), I would have thought the fact that I speak perfect English with a strong British accent would make that obvious but I guess this guy was an idiot.
.....Guy tells me the policy was brought in "last week" and that I can simply become a member for 1,200 Baht. HELL NO! The policy definitely wasn't brought in last week. I was quoted THB 1000 to enter Rainbow 4 two years ago, after I was told its members only, LOL (I didn't pay of course). There are several reports across the pages which indicate that Rainbow clubs are not Indian friendly. Atleast, Rainbow 4 definitely isn't. Rainbow 2 (I think) which is next to Spanky's on the first floor you can have better luck, several times I noticed the entrance not being manned by anyone, thus quick entry and exit if required.
Many here believe that Rainbow girls are surgically done up with nose jobs, boob jobs et al thus plasticy. I have never been inside so can't comment. Wonder if you are really missing anything?
Also, a note of caution, the idiots manning the entrance to these clubs can be hopped up on drugs and are prone to violence (a couple of such reports which report physical harm can also be found on the forum), so better to not get aggressive with them and move on or better still avoid entirely.
I have been a long time lurker on this forum and have gotten a lot of great info about Thailand and the Philippians during the last 2-3 years. I my report is not too long.
A while back someone posted a link to a website and I ended up reading a few page till I ended up here http://afarangabroad.com/find-thai-girlfriend.
I am not on a huge salary in Aus and with the AUD going down I need to spend my money a little more wisely than spending 1,000-2,000 in various afterhours night clubs. The person who manages that site also echos what people say on here about finding Thai girls online, here is my experience.
I recently just left after a 2 week trip and spend most of my time in Bangkok and Phuket. Two weeks before my flight I signed up to Thai Friendly and decided to check it out. I am in my mid 40's but look a lot younger, I don't get a lot of attention for girls in Australia but can usually do okay once I get talking. I uploaded one picture and got a few messages. I read online that the more better dressed you look the better reaction your profile will get. I took a few more pictures with me in a shirt and saved, next thing I know I was getting 10-15 messages a day. Pretty good even for a old fart like me.
I started sorting though the messages and saw a few girls I like.
#1 - the first girl met me at the airport after we chatted for a while on skype. She was a nice girl but her English was pretty bad (we text chatted on Skype). The taxi ride to my hotel was really awkward as she hardly said a word, we got some food and she hardly spoke a word. I decided to call it a night but she wanted to come back with me to my room. Anyway I won't go into details with what happened.
#2 - The second girl I met up in Terminal 21 (mall) and her English was a lot better and I had 100% more fun. The girl seemed bubbly and flirty and said she worked some office job. I meet her again a few days a later and a bar, we had some drinks and she asked if she could come back to mine because as she lived far away and taxis for women are dangerous at night. You can guess what happened. This girl was a bit older and afterwards she was madly in love with me or maybe it was lust. She kept wanting to meet me everyday but I enjoy time alone, in the end I felt a bit guilty and spent more time then I would have liked with this girl. She was sweet and even paid her share of the bills expect when we went somewhere pricey and I thought it was only right that I pay the bill given their low salaries.
I think in total I was talking to around girls, a few of them flaked or just stopped chatting to me for no reason after a few days, I am not sure what the deal was there. I would have liked to meet more but girl #2 took most of my time. While I think the level of sex is better in massage if you are looking for cheaper ways to get laid in Bangkok online works well and I am not that good looking. I feel I spent too much time on these dating sites and it would be great if there was a middle man who manged your account and setup the dates for you. I spent the first week talking to any who messages me but half of the girls have a poor grasp and its hard to get anything good going.
Just wanted to let everyone know of my experiences and give a little back since you have helped me over the years find a few gems that otherwise I would never have known about.
Old New Guy
02-09-15, 18:38
We were all newbies before so maybe I will give this answer a shot.You're welcome. There is a difference between being newbies and asking for no good reason.
I have been a long time lurker on this forum and have gotten a lot of great info about Thailand and the Philippians during the last 2-3 years. I my report is not too long.
A while back someone posted a link to a website and I ended up reading a few page till I ended up here http://afarangabroad.com/find-thai-girlfriend.
I am not on a huge salary in Aus and with the AUD going down I need to spend my money a little more wisely than spending 1,000-2,000 in various afterhours night clubs. The person who manages that site also echos what people say on here about finding Thai girls online, here is my experience.
I recently just left after a 2 week trip and spend most of my time in Bangkok and Phuket. Two weeks before my flight I signed up to Thai Friendly and decided to check it out. I am in my mid 40's but look a lot younger, I don't get a lot of attention for girls in Australia but can usually do okay once I get talking. I uploaded one picture and got a few messages. I read online that the more better dressed you look the better reaction your profile will get. I took a few more pictures with me in a shirt and saved, next thing I know I was getting 10-15 messages a day. Pretty good even for a old fart like me...Where did you find the gems. Soi 7 Beer Garden?
The policy definitely wasn't brought in last week. I was quoted THB 1000 to enter Rainbow 4 two years ago, after I was told its members only, LOL (I didn't pay of course). There are several reports across the pages which indicate that Rainbow clubs are not Indian friendly. Atleast, Rainbow 4 definitely isn't. Rainbow 2 (I think) which is next to Spanky's on the first floor you can have better luck, several times I noticed the entrance not being manned by anyone, thus quick entry and exit if required.
Many here believe that Rainbow girls are surgically done up with nose jobs, boob jobs et al thus plasticy. I have never been inside so can't comment. Wonder if you are really missing anything?
Also, a note of caution, the idiots manning the entrance to these clubs can be hopped up on drugs and are prone to violence (a couple of such reports which report physical harm can also be found on the forum), so better to not get aggressive with them and move on or better still avoid entirely.I think you are mistaking Baccara for Rainbows. Sorry but I don't see the barmen as junkies. I doubt management would allow that-just for business reasons.
Once I did see a R4 door guy get aggressive but that was after a Ippun threw the first punch.
Member #4591
02-10-15, 20:11
Badoo, Tagged, Skout, Tango-Hi 5, and We-Chat all have apps for google play and IOS. If you want to snag the non pros, semi pros, and freebies follow these simple rules. Be polite, speak some basic Thai, don't ask for naked photos or sex chat, and don't ask them to meet right away. Build a rapport so the ladies trust you. Switch to Line application as soon as possible. Thai ladies consider this as sacred as giving their number up. Once you get their line ID you are almost there. Once they let their guard down you will be surprised how many will pay you a late night visit for a booty call. But never talk about sex openly. Just invite them over to talk, watch a movie, or to cuddle. Do your searches when near popular locations like Sukomvit, Ratchada, or. Lat. Phrao, however you can find ladies playing all over Bangkok. We chat has a distance limit depending on the number of users playing in your area. The less users, the farther the distance. My top 2 apps for success are We chat and Skout. Bottom line guys, don't act like a sex crazed nymphomaniac. The pros will have naked photos and are easy to spot with status messages like call girl or no money no honey. Stay away from them. They operate similar to the. CL girls, mostly scams. Stick with the non pros or semi pros. I usually hook up with about 2 girls per week. They usually just pop by my place late night to cuddle 55555
IAmRamesh86
02-10-15, 23:06
Thanks to Bkkdg I had hooked up with non pros through online dating apps and website this is a small update about we chat usually pros and pimps are online on we chat after midnight they are looking for clients desperately lately some gal pinged me on we chat stating she wants to see me was quoting 5 k I negotiated to 2.5 k for the night she agreed and told me to send my hotel address and room number! She was so adamant that she would meet me at my room I insist that I wait near Nana bts as it is only 1 min walk from my hotel!! I'm a experienced monger I know how things work in Bangkok, and am very cautious as I'm travelling alone I waited for 5 min and one taxi arrived with three girls one hottie got down from the taxi and greeted me she was not the same girl as the pic she shared through we chat and God grace some Thai guy came behind me and said she is a lady boy run!! She no girl "lady boy run run" thank god I showed the pic to the girl she took the next taxi and went away so please be aware be very cautious if your travelling lot many FR with pic is coming I will post everything in details once I get back home.
So newbies just be aware never give your hotel address or room number to anyone and when you're taking a girl from the club get to know her well before taking to your hotel always opt for St and tell the the girl I will take you full night if your nice so the girl will take extra effort to please you I never take fun I always fool them LOL.
Its 5 am that douche-bag pimp spoiled my good night sleep.
Badoo, Tagged, Skout, Tango-Hi 5, and We-Chat all have apps for google play and IOS. If you want to snag the non pros, semi pros, and freebies follow these simple rules. Be polite, speak some basic Thai, don't ask for naked photos or sex chat, and don't ask them to meet right away. Build a rapport so the ladies trust you. Switch to Line application as soon as possible. Thai ladies consider this as sacred as giving their number up. Once you get their line ID you are almost there. Once they let their guard down you will be surprised how many will pay you a late night visit for a booty call. But never talk about sex openly. Just invite them over to talk, watch a movie, or to cuddle. Do your searches when near popular locations like Sukomvit, Ratchada, or. Lat. Phrao, however you can find ladies playing all over Bangkok. We chat has a distance limit depending on the number of users playing in your area. The less users, the farther the distance. My top 2 apps for success are We chat and Skout. Bottom line guys, don't act like a sex crazed nymphomaniac. The pros will have naked photos and are easy to spot with status messages like call girl or no money no honey. Stay away from them. They operate similar to the. CL girls, mostly scams. Stick with the non pros or semi pros. I usually hook up with about 2 girls per week. They usually just pop by my place late night to cuddle 55555Can we see transcripts on what you say to gain a girls confidence. No lying I hope. Why would a good girl go to a strangers hotel to Kuddle-makes no sense other than Thai girls are stupid.
ActionOriented
02-11-15, 05:44
I think you are mistaking Baccara for Rainbows. Sorry but I don't see the barmen as junkies. I doubt management would allow that-just for business reasons.
Once I did see a R4 door guy get aggressive but that was after a Ippun threw the first punch.No, I know exactly which bar I am talking about. I have been inside Bacarra several times, never been stopped. I have even bar fined a few girls from there. So Bacarra is definitely not the bar I was talking about. There is only one doorman at Bacarra who remains quiet most times.
Rainbow 4 does not allow Indians in, and will first say "Members Only", following which they will say "1000 baht to enter" or some such. I have personally not witnessed any violence at the entrance of Rainbow 4, but if you trawl through earlier reports you will see at least 2 reports which speak of violence where the monger was hurt or caused hurt to the guys at the entrance. The thing about being hopped up on drugs, I can't confirm one way or another, but people do reference it in their reports. Perhaps other members with more information on Rainbow 4 could confirm.
Member #4591
02-11-15, 06:52
Thanks to Bkkdg I had hooked up with non pros through online dating apps and website this is a small update about we chat usually pros and pimps are online on we chat after midnight they are looking for clients desperately lately some gal pinged me on we chat stating she wants to see me was quoting 5 k I negotiated to 2.5 k for the night she agreed and told me to send my hotel address and room number! She was so adamant that she would meet me at my room I insist that I wait near Nana bts as it is only 1 min walk from my hotel!! I'm a experienced monger I know how things work in Bangkok, and am very cautious as I'm travelling alone I waited for 5 min and one taxi arrived with three girls one hottie got down from the taxi and greeted me she was not the same girl as the pic she shared through we chat and God grace some Thai guy came behind me and said she is a lady boy run!! She no girl "lady boy run run" thank god I showed the pic to the girl she took the next taxi and went away so please be aware be very cautious if your travelling lot many FR with pic is coming I will post everything in details once I get back home.
So newbies just be aware never give your hotel address or room number to anyone and when you're taking a girl from the club get to know her well before taking to your hotel always opt for St and tell the the girl I will take you full night if your nice so the girl will take extra effort to please you I never take fun I always fool them LOL.
Its 5 am that douche-bag pimp spoiled my good night sleep.I reported about this scam already but I refused to even give my address. I gave a fake address and they showed up to the wrong place. They brought a fake policemen who would have tried extorting money from me. Good job it never even got to that stage with you.
El Vagabundo
02-11-15, 15:34
Any one ha e experience with Eva Air, economy class. They have one way, Lax. Bkk for around $400.00 United has the same deal, but the seats on Eva spec out a little larger.
Thanks,
Martin
Member #4591
02-11-15, 16:20
Your report is a pure lie to get people excited. But points for you for trolling.Could you explain the logic of your post please? I fail to see it myself? I would not get excited about this situation. I believe this information to be useful for our membership and given the number of ladyboys in Thaialnd and the scams they pull on craigs list, on the streets, and in bars, I tend to believe this story 100%. But thanks for coming out mate!
Member #4591
02-11-15, 16:24
Can we see transcripts on what you say to gain a girls confidence. No lying I hope. Why would a good girl go to a strangers hotel to Kuddle-makes no sense other than Thai girls are stupid.Well Mr. 4 posts. I certainly wouldn't be doing anything of the kind at the request of you. Maybe after you contribute some useful information though? I tell you what. I will be happy to PM you the information after you have contributed enough to the forum or paid for a subscription so that you can send and receive messages. Deal?
Member #4698
02-11-15, 17:05
Why would a good girl go to a strangers hotel to Kuddle-makes no sense other than Thai girls are stupid.No, they are not stupid. They are warm blooded sexy women. Apparently you are not used to this from the girls you know back home. Come to Thailand, the PI, and Indonesia and see for yourself. You will never want to leave.
WarmStone25
02-11-15, 18:42
Visit to Bangkok.
I returned from Bangkok two days ago. Stayed at Grande Centre Point hotel across the road from Soi Cowboy. In the afternoon went over to scout out this area. My first impression was that it looked like an area that should be demolished and redeveloped. Did I travel so far to see this?
Later the darkness and bright lights covered up the run down nature of the place.
I went into some of the bars to have a look. All of the girls that I spoke to asked for 3000 bht short time. Short time was defined as the time it takes you to come. One girl said that she would permit me to come twice. Another girl that I bumped into outside the bar asked for 5000 bht. I asked what it would be for short time and she said there is no difference between short time and long time.
I thought that Bacarra had a good number girls sufficiently good looking that I would be happy to take them back to the hotel. I particularly enjoyed the topless dancing upstairs. I bar fined two girls from here on separate occasions. As soon as I pulled them from the bar top the waitress was on me to buy a drink. The bar fine was 600 bht, plus two drinks at 200. Total about 1000 bht to pull a girl from the bar. Both girls performed well in the room but did not want to stay very long after the deed was done. The second girl would not let me into the bathroom or shower with her. Later I noted the ugly scars on her back, probably due to an accident. This did not put me off, however, but it seemed to me that it may be better to pull girls from the topless show in the intermediate level bar at Bacarra. The same girl had the kind of cute but not necessarily stunning looks that I like. Outside of the bar I thought that her complexion was slightly different. The lighting conditions in the bar can make it difficult to make a judgement. Too, when you pull a girl off the bar you do not know what she will turn up wearing. This girl turned up wearing orange coloured pants and top, which I thought a bit garish, and I started to feel a bit embarrassed to take this back to the hotel.
The best place for judging was Suzy Wong where I found, much to my delight, that girls would come onto the bar naked. I pulled one girl from here. The bar fine and drink cost about 750 bht, a bit less than before. The girl asked for 2000 bht for two hours. This was a much better offer than before, so I took it. This girl, name of the, performed well. She allowed me into the shower with her.
After an energetic hour, or more, I made her some tea and gave her a cake, thinking that this would reinvigorate her. Conversely, she fell asleep. I let her sleep past the time, but not for too long. I gave her a good tip.
I also scouted out Nana Plaza. When I was there Rainbow 4 had a good number of attractive young women, most of whom I would have been happy to take back to the hotel.
I intended to try Nataree, but was to tired on my last day.
On those occasions when I walked out with a girl the police were at the end of the soi, but they did not say anything. On two occasions when I walked towards Nana there were two sets of police on the pavement, on the same side as the hotel, but they did not say anything.
Would I return? There appears to be a tendency to a 3000 bht cum once service. Taking into account the cost including bar fines and drinks and currency conversion factors. I can get that level of service where I come from for about the same cost. The 2000 bht, 2 hour service offers more for less. Too, there are hotel and flight costs to consider. It is nice to go somewhere different from your own back yard, but, as an example, I can be in Berlin in less than two hours. There is enough variety there at different levels. In comparison Bangkok is about 12 hours away. Too, Berlin is a more attractive city to visit. It is unlikely that I will return to Bangkok.
Does anyone have experience with Eva Air, economy class? They have one way, Lax. Bkk for around $400.00 United has the same deal, but the seats on Eva spec out a little larger.
Thanks,
MartinI have a lot of experience with EVA over the years. Unfortunately, this is the first year I'll be stuck in Economy on the Transpacific leg. But I found the $1,000 premium between EC and Premium Economy to be ridiculous.
EVA has about the "best" Economy legroom and seat size on the Transpacific routes, save THAI, who has the largest. The other carriers are all variations of cattle cars. The biggest problem with EVA's EC is that it's always packed. And noisy. The Chinese are not a quiet people to begin with. Cram 300 of them together in a flying cigar tube and things can get downright loud.
On the upside, I tend to prefer transferring planes in Taipei rather than Tokyo.
Does anyone have experience with Eva Air, economy class? They have one way, Lax. Bkk for around $400.00 United has the same deal, but the seats on Eva spec out a little larger.
Thanks,
MartinI have flown Eva Air economy, although on a different sector (London-Bangkok) and I had a pleasant experience. I would use it again without hesitation.
Visit to Bangkok.
I returned from Bangkok two days ago. Stayed at Grande Centre Point hotel across the road from Soi Cowboy. In the afternoon went over to scout out this area. My first impression was that it looked like an area that should be demolished and redeveloped. Did I travel so far to see this?
Later the darkness and bright lights covered up the run down nature of the place.
I went into some of the bars to have a look. All of the girls that I spoke to asked for 3000 bht short time. Short time was defined as the time it takes you to come. One girl said that she would permit me to come twice. Another girl that I bumped into outside the bar asked for 5000 bht. I asked what it would be for short time and she said there is no difference between short time and long time.
I thought that Bacarra had a good number girls sufficiently good looking that I would be happy to take them back to the hotel. I particularly enjoyed the topless dancing upstairs. I bar fined two girls from here on separate occasions. As soon as I pulled them from the bar top the waitress was on me to buy a drink. The bar fine was 600 bht, plus two drinks at 200. Total about 1000 bht to pull a girl from the bar. Both girls performed well in the room but did not want to stay very long after the deed was done. The second girl would not let me into the bathroom or shower with her. Later I noted the ugly scars on her back, probably due to an accident. This did not put me off, however, but it seemed to me that it may be better to pull girls from the topless show in the intermediate level bar at Bacarra. The same girl had the kind of cute but not necessarily stunning looks that I like. Outside of the bar I thought that her complexion was slightly different. The lighting conditions in the bar can make it difficult to make a judgement. Too, when you pull a girl off the bar you do not know what she will turn up wearing. This girl turned up wearing orange coloured pants and top, which I thought a bit garish, and I started to feel a bit embarrassed to take this back to the hotel.
The best place for judging was Suzy Wong where I found, much to my delight, that girls would come onto the bar naked. I pulled one girl from here. The bar fine and drink cost about 750 bht, a bit less than before. The girl asked for 2000 bht for two hours. This was a much better offer than before, so I took it. This girl, name of the, performed well. She allowed me into the shower with her.
After an energetic hour, or more, I made her some tea and gave her a cake, thinking that this would reinvigorate her. Conversely, she fell asleep. I let her sleep past the time, but not for too long. I gave her a good tip.
I also scouted out Nana Plaza. When I was there Rainbow 4 had a good number of attractive young women, most of whom I would have been happy to take back to the hotel.
I intended to try Nataree, but was to tired on my last day.
On those occasions when I walked out with a girl the police were at the end of the soi, but they did not say anything. On two occasions when I walked towards Nana there were two sets of police on the pavement, on the same side as the hotel, but they did not say anything.
Would I return? There appears to be a tendency to a 3000 bht cum once service. Taking into account the cost including bar fines and drinks and currency conversion factors. I can get that level of service where I come from for about the same cost. The 2000 bht, 2 hour service offers more for less. Too, there are hotel and flight costs to consider. It is nice to go somewhere different from your own back yard, but, as an example, I can be in Berlin in less than two hours. There is enough variety there at different levels. In comparison Bangkok is about 12 hours away. Too, Berlin is a more attractive city to visit. It is unlikely that I will return to Bangkok.Thanks for the great TR. Yes, SC and Patpong, much like Las Vegas, look far better at night. I agree with the demolished and redeveloped part.
A lot of bars use a sort of pinkish light to illuminate the girls. It compliments the Isaan skin tone and hides a TON of imperfections. Once you get them into natural light you're often surprised. And yes, isn't it nice to walk down the street, and into your hotel, with a girl wearing clothes that scream "uneducated hooker? :)
You've succinctly illustrated the extremely poor value that go-go bars have become. Why anybody wants to fly half-way around the world (in my case) or 12 hours (your case) for $150 quickies is beyond me. The sooner these anachronisms that are go-go bars go away, the better off we'll all be.
Visit to Bangkok.
I returned from Bangkok two days ago. Stayed at Grande Centre Point hotel across the road from Soi Cowboy. In the afternoon went over to scout out this area. My first impression was that it looked like an area that should be demolished and redeveloped. Did I travel so far to see this?
A dirty, disgusting filthy city but at the same time it so alive, never the same thing twice and an amazing people living there. Can't wait to get back there.
HorneeFalang
02-12-15, 02:08
A dirty, disgusting filthy city but at the same time it so alive, never the same thing twice and an amazing people living there. Can't wait to get back there.So true. Am here now. Just woke up from a large night. Nana. Spent most of my time at Spankys. Good service. Hands on. I got jerked and felt up the whole time I was in there. I went early and had the joint to myself. It got really busy later. They quoted me 600 BHT bar fine and 2000 for short time. The lady I was with was a typical Issan spinner. Said she was 31, looked 20. Great ass and titties. No baby. I did not follow through, however tipped heavy and was apart of the show with many mongers looking on with my hands on action. Dang I love this dirty, stinky, hot, corrupt city!
Because I missed my United flight from San Francisco to Hong Kong due to a weather delay from my originating airport, I had an opportunity to fly with EVA from SFO. The flight leaves around midnight and decided to take it rather than wait until the next afternoon and fly with United.
The flight was only half full and many passengers selected a seat in the middle aisle and were able to stretch out and sleep by using all the empty seats. This is totally not possible with United as they are usually fully booked for these flights. I had a seat next to the emergency door with no one next to me and had a lot of legroom so it was a comfortable journey. The flight stopped in Tapei before continuing to Hong Kong. The food was good and the service excellent plus, if I recall, the wine was free. I may fly with them on my return as I can earn miles via United since they are both part of Star Alliance.
I have a lot of experience with EVA over the years. Unfortunately, this is the first year I'll be stuck in Economy on the Transpacific leg. But I found the $1,000 premium between EC and Premium Economy to be ridiculous.
EVA has about the "best" Economy legroom and seat size on the Transpacific routes, save THAI, who has the largest. The other carriers are all variations of cattle cars. The biggest problem with EVA's EC is that it's always packed. And noisy. The Chinese are not a quiet people to begin with. Cram 300 of them together in a flying cigar tube and things can get downright loud.
On the upside, I tend to prefer transferring planes in Taipei rather than Tokyo.
IAmRamesh86
02-12-15, 03:45
Its easy to hook up online only thing you need some skills to talk there are semi pros who like to earn extra income check out yourself you would not what I'm talking about! Some people are colour blind that doesn't mean rainbows doesn't exist!
Can we see transcripts on what you say to gain a girls confidence. No lying I hope. Why would a good girl go to a strangers hotel to Kuddle-makes no sense other than Thai girls are stupid.
So I noticed a couple of Rainbow 1 girls who went to Rainbow 4 are now back at Rainbow 1.
Unless you are a bonafide moneymaker changing from one Rainbow to another is futile. The Rainbow bars have a lot of fierce competition.
Perhaps a Mediocre Rainbow girl, if wanting to increase income, should go to a Suzy Wongs type establishment where the girls are kinda mainly hard to look at. Hahahaha.
IAmRamesh86
02-12-15, 10:30
Why you would I lie about the scams happening in Bangkok? What do I get from it??
I think you are some kinda horny nut crack head who can't hook up with a decent chick even if you pay them! Get a life mate no one is paying me to write reports over here in ISG I'm just trying to help!
Your report is a pure lie to get people excited. But points for you for trolling.
IAmRamesh86
02-12-15, 12:32
I have already posted a screen shot of my conversation with a Thai chick who's currently my guide! See those site works you need some skills to talk to a girl out of 50 girls 20 will be non pros college students or working women! It works for me check my previous post you can see the screen shot I have attached!
Can we see transcripts on what you say to gain a girls confidence. No lying I hope. Why would a good girl go to a strangers hotel to Kuddle-makes no sense other than Thai girls are stupid.
The sooner these anachronisms that are go-go bars go away, the better off we'll all be.You once again have me scratching my head (Craig's list in Mexico as a viable option to BKK, etc.) and though I suspect the real anachronism is your recent post (s) in this thread, I'll bite.
So just how am I better off without go go's in BKK?
You once again have me scratching my head (Craig's list in Mexico as a viable option to BKK, etc.) and though I suspect the real anachronism is your recent post (s) in this thread, I'll bite.
So just how am I better off without go go's in BKK?Don't mind the closed minded liberal. If he don't like it he don't want you to like it.
I don't like oilies that offer anal with hard lookers but I don't want them to go away. A lot of guys like doing anus with fugly girls. Hahahahaha. T o each his own.
LittleBigMan
02-13-15, 02:39
Because I missed my United flight from San Francisco to Hong Kong due to a weather delay from my originating airport, I had an opportunity to fly with EVA from SFO. The flight leaves around midnight and decided to take it rather than wait until the next afternoon and fly with United.
The flight was only half full and many passengers selected a seat in the middle aisle and were able to stretch out and sleep by using all the empty seats. This is totally not possible with United as they are usually fully booked for these flights. I had a seat next to the emergency door with no one next to me and had a lot of legroom so it was a comfortable journey. The flight stopped in Tapei before continuing to Hong Kong. The food was good and the service excellent plus, if I recall, the wine was free. I may fly with them on my return as I can earn miles via United since they are both part of Star Alliance.Fellas, keep this information quiet! I flown nearly every Airline going to the Far East in the last 30 plus years, either full fare or on a Airline discount. I started using Eva Airlines 10 years ago and even after all those years I have never had a problem with any of their staff, never seen a flight crew get bend out of shape on a flight no matter. A few years back I had to fly home for a emergency and when it was time to return to Thailand, I got the date mixed up and show up on the wrong day. The flight was full but the manager moved things around and got me a seat in Deluxe economy without even taking my miles. Although they have changed many of the structure of their fares like other Airlines, usually the cheapest fare does not give miles any longer if you obtain so many segments you are issue a Silver card to use their clubs and that itself is worth obtaining especially the club out of Bangkok and Taipei.
Your experience out of SFO, is unusual since every flight I have used for the last few years have been full requiring me to purchase at full fare ticket instead of a standby pass. Whatever method they use to determine the best airline in the world. Eva I believe was voted once in the last ten years. I believe that itself is a shame! Flying into Taipei in the winter can be at times scary and only once that the landing was scary but from my experience their pilots seem to be well trained.
FreebieFan
02-13-15, 03:47
plus, if I recall, the wine was free. I may fly with them on my return .Its a sad commentary on the state of airlines when its remarked that the wine was free. Or should we say, included in price of the ticket.
Thankfully I have very few US flights these days. But have seen no end of city to city flights in US where the attendant will pass the guy in 1 A a box of donuts and tell him to take one and pass it on. And that qualifies in US airlines as "service ".
Asian airlines generally understand what service and passenger comfort is. US airlines have no idea what those words begin to mean.
Member #4591
02-13-15, 03:49
I have already posted a screen shot of my conversation with a Thai chick who's currently my guide! See those site works you need some skills to talk to a girl out of 50 girls 20 will be non pros college students or working women! It works for me check my previous post you can see the screen shot I have attached!Don't mind this guy who has popped out of the woodwork with only a few posts. He does not really help anyone or post anything of any interest. If I had to guess I would say he is a past member who is using a new account for obvious reasons. Anyways I got your PM about clubs in Bangkok. I know exactly what you are talking about. Check your PM. I will elaborate for any newbies here in Bangkok. If you are looking for a similar clubbing experience as Pattaya in Bangkok, your best bet is Climax inside the Ambassador hotel on soi 11. Get there before midnight so you can watch all the hotties strole in. Stay away from Mixx in Bangkok. Nothing like the Pattaya one. The old Insomnia club at suk soi 12 is also a good second choice. The smaller bars on soi 4 operate similarly to the beer bars in Pattaya. They are all owned by the Climax group. The soi 7 beer bar is a hit amd miss these days. Many older ladies. But if you go around 8 PM you can score a young hot newbie girl who wants to get an early start. She will love to avoid the late night bars. At these places the prices are much more in line with Pattaya for the girls. This has worked for me countless times. However recently I have been scoring so much on the mobile chat apps that I have given up going to the bars.
HorneeFalang
02-13-15, 03:57
Mongers,
Last night was spent at Soi Cowboy. Oh my Buddha!
Very quiet in Tilac, also very expensive. Ohhhh the Angels in there. Coyotes of course, some nice bar staff wanting to come back to my loom for no charge, was not not focused. Dang!
Was told by one of the waitresses that she love lady too and would double up on a dude like me for minimal BHT, again had too many San Mig with lemon. Mamoooth was asleep.
I love this dirty, stinking, filthy. Beautiful city.
Long live The King!
Thoughts on Tilac.
Haven't been there but once. Very clean and spiffy looking-prolly due to the fact no customers. Hahhaa! Times must be really tough if staff is willing to go for minimal amounts.
This sounds so interesting. I am also Indian origin from USA. If you don't mind of asking, which forum has more discussions about online dating, which website you used to create your profile? Can you send me some more details.
I have just returned from a nearly 3 week stay in Thailand. I hope this trip report will add something different to what is usually shared.
Through my previous trips I realized that I enjoy more when I can spend a few days with a girl. Some BMs report from time to time about the online dating sites. On another forum I have read extensive discussions on how it can be very fruitful but only if you live in Thailand. I decided to give it a go any ways. I figured, if nothing came out of it, then I could always fall back on oilies, soapies, the freelancers and go-gos!! I setup a profile and starting making contacts about 6 weeks ahead of my trip. I created a standard message and sent it to any girl that looked interesting. Most of the girls probably receive a lot of messages and I figured that it was best to send messages to only those who were online. In most cases they almost immediately read the message and replied (or not). I logged in at least 2-3 times a day. Must confess, it did take a fair bit of time and effort.
I made it clear from the beginning that I was not looking for a serious relationship. Given the strong bias against the Indians in Thailand, I also made it very clear in my profile that I am British Indian, and if anyone had any issues with that then not to bother!t..
Wolvenvacht
02-13-15, 07:37
Any one ha e experience with Eva Air, economy class. They have one way, Lax. Bkk for around $400.00 United has the same deal, but the seats on Eva spec out a little larger.
Thanks,
MartinA few years ago I took EVA Air from Amsterdam-Schiphol to Bangkok. I was very pleased with their upgraded economy class. For a few 100 EUR extra I got a lot more legroom and even better service.
Uncle Volodya
02-13-15, 08:16
Hi BKK Dog!
Very informative post! Never FL'd in BKK so this is all nice to know.
Do you think that one could use the apps to also score hotties in Pattaya?
Uncle Volodya
02-13-15, 08:21
Badoo, Tagged, Skout, Tango-Hi 5, and We-Chat all have apps for google play and IOS. If you want to snag the non pros, semi pros, and freebies follow these simple rules. Be polite, speak some basic Thai, don't ask for naked photos or sex chat, and don't ask them to meet right away. Build a rapport so the ladies trust you. Switch to Line application as soon as possible. Thai ladies consider this as sacred as giving their number up. Once you get their line ID you are almost there. Once they let their guard down you will be surprised how many will pay you a late night visit for a booty call. But never talk about sex openly. Just invite them over to talk, watch a movie, or to cuddle. Do your searches when near popular locations like Sukomvit, Ratchada, or. Lat. Phrao, however you can find ladies playing all over Bangkok. We chat has a distance limit depending on the number of users playing in your area. The less users, the farther the distance. My top 2 apps for success are We chat and Skout. Bottom line guys, don't act like a sex crazed nymphomaniac. The pros will have naked photos and are easy to spot with status messages like call girl or no money no honey. Stay away from them. They operate similar to the. CL girls, mostly scams. Stick with the non pros or semi pros. I usually hook up with about 2 girls per week. They usually just pop by my place late night to cuddle 55555Yup! This is basic common sense stuff. And it works. Thanks for posting.
The only real drawback is that it takes some time and patience. Not sure if going online is the best strategy if you are in town for just a short period of time. But for a long time stay it is gold.
Man I hate you fuckers that get to live in LOS. LOL.
This is my FR from my first time in Bangkok. Mostly just observations. Sorry for the long post.
Having already spent 10 days in Thailand, I already got a feel for what Bangkok might actually be. I've done a lot of research and watched a few videos on the red light districts, and to my surprise, nana plaza, soi cowboy, and patpong were a lot smaller than I originally thought. Bangkok is very famous for it's sex tourism, so I thought those places were going to be huge, but they're not. Their crammed onto a block or two, or crammed into a strip mall. This was shocking to me when I arrived. I walked Bangla road in Phuket and was expecting the same thing. All three combined probably aren't the same size as bangla road. Nana plaza has three floors compact with bars, go go bar, pickup bars, and ladyboy bars. Most of the women here on a Wednesday night werent great looking. I mean, I'm not gay, but the ladyboys were much better looking than the girls, which is pretty sad. Seriously, some of these ladyboys looked like cartoons of women. You have to give it up to these plastic surgeons, they do a pretty damn good job. With the abundance of them, I didn't want to take my chances here. You'll never know who will be honest about their original gender. Anyways, it was a Wednesday night and not much was happening. It was near closing time for most places. The first thai girl I wanted to be with was a girl from Dr. Bjs blowjob bar. She's listed as EE on the website, with her face blocked. But if you search the internet, there's pictures of her full face. I saw this girls a few months back and I had to have this girl. Unfortunately, she wasn't working, and it was around midnight, and everything was closing at around 1 am. I went to go check out loli-tas across the way, and since I was running out of time, I pretty much had to take my pick there.
The girls aren't great looking here. Most are on the chubby side, with ok looking faces. They all were wearing school girl outfits. The most popular girl, who might have had a 7. 5 body, and a 7. 5 was snatched up back to back when I got there. The girl who brought me in was pretty pushy and annoying, but the 2nd best looking out of the whole bunch. One of the girls, who probably had the best body, had a manly looking face. I was almost convinced she was a ladyboy or used to be a man. I even asked the whole group, just to see what kind of response I got from her. And in typical fashion, she answered that they are all women, and always have been. She had to be a man, especially with that face. Time was ticking, and the girl who brought me in was occupied. My choices were 3 chubsters and the man. And then the choice became harder when a group of guys came in. I opted to wait out for the original girl, who's name was Nont, a 32 year old with 1 kid. Luckily, the guy she was with, finished pretty quickly. And I snatched her up before any of the other guys could see her. She took me upstairs into a room, with curtains for privacy. If you guys are into privacy, this is not the place. You will hear everything going on in the next chair, it's literally 1 feet of separation between each chair. You can even see the socks on the feet of everyone being serviced. I have no problem with it, even prefer it because I get to hear all the girls moaning and gagging, while most of the guys were too shy to make a peep, except for me hahaha. She cleans you up and begins right away. It's very mechanical, and no change in technique or anything. She just goes up and down with her head, like if you were jerking yourself. I asked to see and grab her boobs, but she made a big fuss about it. I told her I can cum quicker that way, so she obliged. Her boobs were ok, not big or great looking, but soft and a handful. She didn't like her nipples twisted or squeezed, they were the large saucer types. For another 15 minutes she continues going up and down, doesn't work my boys, doesn't stroke me, nothing. I told her to make eye contact with me while I blew my load in her mouth, she obliged. I emptied out 5 days worth of my cum into her mouth, while she takes the whole thing and maintains deep eye contact while I do it. Takes every last violent drop. She goes to clean up, comes back to clean me up. She asks for a tip, I say no. And go downstairs to pay and be on my way. 800 THB for that, 1200 THB for full service, 1500 THB for 1 hour full service. I had a couple of beers, so damage was 1060 THB. Face: 7 Body: 7 Service: 8.
The next day I opted to check out patpong, and I think it's no longer as the main red light district anymore as there are street vendors in the middle of the street, attracting tourist, backpackers, and families there, rather than the sextourist or sexpats. However, while walking the street you can peep inside many of these places and see what's going on. I wanted to catch a ping pong show, it's on my bucket list. And man, was this a mistake. I don't know why these shows still exist. It's one scam after the other. And it's nonstop for a mediocre show. First, you have to negotiate the price for the show, but you have to establish what you get with the show, what you have to buy, and what you're paying all together. Even then they try to scam you. I paid 400 THB, but I talked to a few others and they only paid between 200-300,1 drink included. I went to the place next to and upstairs from Golden Fingers, I want to say it's Super Pvssy, but not too sure. Once you get in there, all the free ladies come to you and talk you up and ask for drinks, I said no. They bring the drinks anyway, I said no, take them away, I didn't order them. Then after every show, they come around asking for tips. I told them I already paid for a show, I'm not paying anymore. The girls here weren't really attractive, you have a couple who were, but the rest were kind of undesireable. Shows included, ping pong, blowing a horn, writing some words with a crayon, popping balloons with darts, blowing out candles, something with shoe laces, and others that werent too impressive. Some ladyboy, who I thought was a gorgeous girl from far away, came up and asked for a tip for dancing, I asked if she was a lady boy, and she just kept her hand out and said "tip! Tip!" again and ignoring my question, therefore she validated my assumption. I was also told there were no ladyboys here. Luckily, the upside to this whole thing was I met a couple who sat next to me and we became instant friends. We decided to head out to soi cowboy.
At Soi cowboy, we walked a bit to check out the talent, and headed into The Doll House. The place isn't bad, but the drinks were ridiculously priced. For a regular sized singha or chang, was 150 thb. They rotate girls dancing, but they don't really dance. You have some that just don't want to be there at all, to some who are super spunky and trying to get bought for the night. I kept making eye contact with one, and she glanced back at me a few times, but never came over to chat me up. Upstairs, the girls dance on tables in the nude, with less patrons than downstairs. Eventually we headed to Khao san Road to see some of the action.
Khao san road is where the party is at. Mostly tourists are here, drinking, dancing in the street, and doing drugs. Anything and everything can be bought here. I tried out laughing gas for the first time, although a cool experience, lasts only a minute or two. There were also a couple of street walkers hitting up guys for the night. If you've got game and reasonably attractive, you can hook up with local girls who are there looking for foreigners. It's a refreshing change of pace from all of the girls hitting you up just for your money. We eventually left at 4 am because the police cleared the place out at around 3am.
The next day was my last day in Bangkok for a month, so I had to try to be with a thai woman. I headed back to Dr. Bjs, looking for EE. Luckily she was working, however, she was pretty sore from the day before and wasn't offering vip (full service). Imagine my disappointment. She offered to let me be with someone else, but seeing this girl in person and how gorgeous she was, I was okay with settling for a BJ from her. Asked if I wanted a drink, so I yes, and asked if she can have a lady drink, which I also obliged. Be aware though, she didn't take one sip from this drink, I believe they just give her the same drink throughout the night and split the profits from the lady drink. She's tall, about 5'8, thin, beautiful face, big rack (can't tell if real or fake, huge pink saucer nipples though), no kids, and 28. She speaks with a british english accent, and wouldn't tell me her name, didn't want to tell me a fake one. So she said to call her by her I'd tag name, the letter E. Says she only does this part time. All this mysteriousness, has me questioning her true motives and identity. She might be connected to someone important, or trying to hide. Regardless, she takes me upstairs to this tiny room with a chair that used to be for washing hair in beauty salons. The place is not comfortable nor comfortable for her, as she has to kneel on a metal stool with no pad or pillow. She told me how shy she was because of how handsome I was, I'm sure she says that to a lot of people, although I get this a lot from a lot of the girls I session with. After washing my junk, she sits me down and starts with my boys. Oh my goodness, this girl has amazing tongue skills. Probably the best ball job I've ever had. It's soft and delicate and great swirling action. She then goes to work on my little guy. Not as impressive, but that face and body, I'm sure I didn't mind it much. She also didn't like her nipples twisted, and was too shy to take her boobs out, only letting the top out to sit on the bra. I told her if she lets me play with her boobs, I can cum faster, and she told me not to worry, we can take as long as you need. Wow! So she stands up and starts sucking me from the side, so I can play with her butt, boobs, legs, and vajayjay. I was getting excited and was ready to cum. I tell her, and she speeds up the power and motion while moaning. She's doing her tongue swirl on me and my head, and starts to suck while I pound her mouth while grabbing her boobs and playing with her damp pvssy. I eventually explode in her mouth, but unfortunately, most of it got on me, but she kept tongue swirling the head for whatever that cum followed, tasting a lot of my man juice. She cleans me up, and I'm on my way. Damage for the service and 2 drinks: 1240 THB. Face: 8. 5 Body: 8. 5 Service: 8. 5.
I'm a little disappointed with how hard it was to get a session with the girls in Bangkok. I'm not used to having to go to a bar and chatting a girl up and bringing her back to my hotel (I feel unsafe revealing my location to a girl, as well have having her in the same room as my valuables, and lastly, getting dirty looks from the hotel staff and other clients of the hotel). I think Bangkok needs more brothels, and not massage parlors that are secretly brothels. I think I came in with the wrong mentality, high expectations, and bad strategy. I'll be back in 3 weeks to give pattaya a try and Bangkok another try with a whole different strategy. On to Laos!
DwayneJohnson
02-13-15, 16:16
This sounds so interesting. I am also Indian origin from USA. If you don't mind of asking, which forum has more discussions about online dating, which website you used to create your profile? Can you send me some more details.Online dating's modus operandi is to woo some thai chick with sweet talk while not letting yourself know that you're self are falling in the trap. After a while it starts with random gifts or money minting incidents then if you still hang in there, she becomes full fledged girlfriend swallowing everything including your life like an emotional wrecking ball.
Free V-Day advice is that nothing is free in life. (I should have paid to get laid like usual. Regretting now LOL).
TwoTimeTed
02-13-15, 18:33
I'm a little disappointed with how hard it was to get a session with the girls in Bangkok. I'm not used to having to go to a bar and chatting a girl up and bringing her back to my hotel (I feel unsafe revealing my location to a girl, as well have having her in the same room as my valuables, and lastly, getting dirty looks from the hotel staff and other clients of the hotel). I think Bangkok needs more brothels, and not massage parlors that are secretly brothels. I think I came in with the wrong mentality, high expectations, and bad strategy. I'll be back in 3 weeks to give pattaya a try and Bangkok another try with a whole different strategy. On to Laos!I kind of had that same feeling, taking a chick back with my valuables exposed. So this is my recommendation to you and others on this.
Before you go out for the night and plan to bring a chick back, put everything of value in the hotel safe. Put money, credit cards, extra phones, stuff you bought into the safe.
When you go out to get your girl, you come back to the hotel room and everything is already secured, just have your condoms ready available somewhere. So if you're drunk or pass out, you don't have valuables exposed. By the way many hotels will ask for and retain the girl's I'd and will call you to see if they can release the I'd back to her, so its safe in that sense.
Pattaya will be the same way, just much more bar beers (beer bars) and chicks are everywhere. After you do the Walking Street scene, you will quickly realize there are girls everywhere and whatever street (Soi) you go down. Just pick the gems rather quickly because the senior citizens down there do it early, like 6 p-8 pm. After that you can still find them but you look a little harder and sometimes easier if you had a few Changs!
Hi everyone,
I am back in Bangkok after three years this time having a little more time to monger around and discover the possibilities. So, decided to check the BJ bar scene in Bangkok and report back. My previous experience was only limited to Star of Light (SOL).
This time, my hotel is located in Sukhumvit near Phloen Chit BTS station which is a convenient place to visit BJ bars such as Lollipop 1, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, Dr. BJs, and Som's Haven. I started with Lollipop 1. Visited Lollipop 1 two times. Here is the report for the first visit:
First time at about 8:00 PM. Line-up of 6 ladies. None of them can be classified as a beauty queen. Chosen a late-20/ early-30-year-old lady in sexy red short dress (named Tee or Ti) and we straightly headed upstairs with each other. Upstairs not the cleanest place, more like an attic in an old house. Soon discovered the action taking place behind the curtains on the left side with a lady moaning loudly (seems like they've already changed places and the guy was down on his knees giving pleasure to the lady). We headed to the small room on the right side which had a door and was kinda separate from the whole place. Initial greetings and cleanings took place and we began our program. Asked her to took her cloths off first which she kinda obliged by taking off her top and bra (small perky tits). Her skills was good (definitely still not comparable to those I've experienced in SOL) she used her hands and controlled the depth but the pace and strength was well and thank god there was no teeth involved. And she was tickling my anus with her other hand while giving me the BJ. Shot in her mouth after 10 minutes. Usual cleaning took place and we went downstairs. Getting back from the room I noticed that the couple behind the curtain had decided to proceed to FS with the lady riding her sitting customer cowgirl-style (I just saw their shadows). The moaning was very loud now making the atmosphere much more appropriate for my taste. Nevertheless, we headed downstairs, gave 700 THB to the cashier and 300 THB to the lady, thanked her, and left.
Overall, good experience! WIR? Yes but the rating is still below SOL in my notebook.
You once again have me scratching my head (Craig's list in Mexico as a viable option to BKK, etc.) and though I suspect the real anachronism is your recent post (s) in this thread, I'll bite.
So just how am I better off without go go's in BKK?We have an entire thread, lately, about guys talking up the advantages of Wechat, Line, various methods of finding freelancers and avoiding bars. And you don't see the connection between these and CL in MX?
Anachronism. Noun. A thing belonging or appropriate to a period other than that in which it exists, especially a thing that is conspicuously old-fashioned.
If the above isn't a perfect definition of a BKK go-go bar, I don't know what is. :)
A "go-go" bar is a holdover from the Vietnam War days. Even the name "go-go" is an anachronism. SEA never had such a thing until the influx of western military personnel. Asians, in general, are pretty modest when it comes to sex. They may love to get up to mischief, but they don't flaunt it to the same extent as their Western counterparts. So, IMHO, the "go-go" concept was never a good fit for the Asian P4 P scene. It was designed to attract horny soldiers on I & I.
As we can all see, the Go-go scene has degenerated into scams, very high prices, very plain girls, very bad service. And it seems to me that most of the clientele are "tourists" looking to tick a particular box on their vacation to-do list.
I have had wonderful times in Vietnam with beautiful ladies. And VN has no go-go bars. I have had the time of my life in Myanmar, with some very wonderful ladies. Again, no go-go bars. I've had nice times, with nice ladies, in Chiang Mai and Udon Thani. And they have, what? One and zero go-gos, respectively? Go-go and the Asian P4 P scene don't really go together. There appears to be no cultural basis.
So, to summarize, if these 1960's rejects go away, maybe the scene will get back to what it was. Maybe the homely ladies will go back to their rice farms. Maybe we'd be rid of the "Coyote Scourge." Maybe the hordes of overpaying tourists will seek greener pastures. Maybe service levels in the remaining venues will go up. Who knows? If those things did happen, to answer your question, we'd all be better off. Maybe none of the above will happen. But I think my point still stands. Go-go bars are an anachronism.
As we can all see, the Go-go scene has degenerated into scams, very high prices, very plain girls, very bad service. Dude,
I appreciate your sincerity and don't doubt your (very long winded) personal experiences but I think your getting a little caught up in your own head. And I don't know how to say it any simpler.
I like gogo's.
I only do LT and I have no problem with girls agreeing to come to my hotel (which is really great) LT.
I like the variety and the quality level.
My experiences have been 98 percent good.
So again, why would I be better off if Go Go's did not exist?
Or do we all need to live in your world?
Wolvenvacht
02-13-15, 23:06
I'm a little disappointed with how hard it was to get a session with the girls in Bangkok. I'm not used to having to go to a bar and chatting a girl up and bringing her back to my hotel (I feel unsafe revealing my location to a girl, as well have having her in the same room as my valuables, and lastly, getting dirty looks from the hotel staff and other clients of the hotel). I think Bangkok needs more brothels, and not massage parlors that are secretly brothels. I think I came in with the wrong mentality, high expectations, and bad strategy. I'll be back in 3 weeks to give pattaya a try and Bangkok another try with a whole different strategy. On to Laos!Thomkatt, you clearly went in with the wrong ideas. Patpong is for silly tourists who wear a big sign "Scam me, please!". Nana is a bit to frenetic and pushy for me, but Soi Cowboy just fits the bill. Of course YMMV.
Suzi Wong is my favourite agogo club. Actually quite laid back with the girls, waitresses and mamasans not too pushy for LDs.
Remember that the whole idea of an agogo is actually to present you a good view of the girls before you decide which one to take home. You are not there to admire their dancing skills (although the way they move can tell you already something about how they will move in bed), nor to consume many drinks. It is rare I spend more than an hour in an agogo; two (soft) drinks max for me and one LD for the girl I choose. During that time I will have seen the whole line-up (they change about once every 10 to 15 minutes), have choosen my tirac, interviewed her and negotiated her services and fee. I rarely if ever am still in the club after 11 PM. The best talent is taken away quickly. By midnight you are already looking at the left-overs. Think of an agogo club as a "take out restaurant" and you will understand better how to act.
Khao San Road is for (young) tourists. It is not where I like to go as the chances to find a friendly-no-ties-attached Thai companion is rare IMHO.
And please, lighten up. I have never ever had a problem with bringing a girl to my hotel. Put your valuables in the room safe and have fun. Girls you have taken from an agogo won't risk any funny business as they will be out on the street quickly if you complain to the club.
The hotel staff is not at all interested in you and your companion. They actually couldn't care less. Just smile and act normal. And as to the other hotel guests: half of the men are in the same position of you and the other half of the men wish they were in your shoes. As to their women, . . .
Don't mind this guy who has popped out of the woodwork with only a few posts. He does not really help anyone or post anything of any interest. If I had to guess I would say he is a past member who is using a new account for obvious reasons. Anyways I got your PM about clubs in Bangkok. I know exactly what you are talking about. Check your PM. I will elaborate for any newbies here in Bangkok. If you are looking for a similar clubbing experience as Pattaya in Bangkok, your best bet is Climax inside the Ambassador hotel on soi 11. Get there before midnight so you can watch all the hotties strole in. Stay away from Mixx in Bangkok. Nothing like the Pattaya one. The old Insomnia club at suk soi 12 is also a good second choice. The smaller bars on soi 4 operate similarly to the beer bars in Pattaya. They are all owned by the Climax group. The soi 7 beer bar is a hit amd miss these days. Many older ladies. But if you go around 8 PM you can score a young hot newbie girl who wants to get an early start. She will love to avoid the late night bars. At these places the prices are much more in line with Pattaya for the girls. This has worked for me countless times. However recently I have been scoring so much on the mobile chat apps that I have given up going to the bars.Absolutely true! Apps work all okay, especially when you do not stay in Sukhumvit area but in a more Thai residential area. Less suspicious to Thai girls. But don't forget the bars in Thong Lor Soi's. Loads of single Thai women go there diring weekdays for a drink or two an often something more. But you have to invest a bit.
Dude,
I appreciate your sincerity and don't doubt your (very long winded) personal experiences but I think your getting a little caught up in your own head. And I don't know how to say it any simpler.
I like gogo's.
I only do LT and I have no problem with girls agreeing to come to my hotel (which is really great) LT.
I like the variety and the quality level.
My experiences have been 98 percent good.
So again, why would I be better off if Go Go's did not exist?
Or do we all need to live in your world?Whether or not you, personally, like go-gos has absolutely no bearing. You asked why I thought they were an anachronism and I answered, as well as why I thought the scene might be better without them. You don't have to be an asshole about it. Nobody has to share my opinion, nor live in my world. But, instead of engaging any of my points, you descended to snark. If you care to offer a rebuttal and tell us why you think the go-go concept is fresh, modern and in tune with modern-day P4 P standards in Asia, I'm all ears.
I couldn't care less if you, or others like you, continue to patronize these establishments. As I said, to each his own. Let's let the free market decide. In that vein, it seems that economics will be the deciding factor. Everywhere you turn you hear that business is down. This is the worst high season, etc. , etc. Whether or not you agree, I think the days of the go-go are numbered. There are not enough pretty women to support the current number of bars. That situation will not change soon, if ever. There is apparently not enough demand, either, as evidenced by declining patronage numbers. Whether or not anybody likes it, I think there will be a big shakeout of this section of the industry in the next few years. Enjoy it while you can.
I couldn't care less if you, or others like you, continue to patronize these establishments. As I said, to each his own. Let's let the free market decide. In that vein, it seems that economics will be the deciding factor. Everywhere you turn you hear that business is down. This is the worst high season, etc. , etc. Whether or not you agree, I think the days of the go-go are numbered. There are not enough pretty women to support the current number of bars. That situation will not change soon, if ever. There is apparently not enough demand, either, as evidenced by declining patronage numbers. Whether or not anybody likes it, I think there will be a big shakeout of this section of the industry in the next few years. Enjoy it while you can.Yep, biz is down in all but a few GoGo. And interestingly enough there are more and more newbies who are posting less than positive first reports on ISG. In another post Sr Phordphan states that there are fewer gals, attitudes are bad, prices are sky high for both alcohol and women, ST is 30 min if you are lucky, gals are not as attractive, the Coyote phenom is horrid, and the you see "tourists" who just come to gawk in GoGo areas. GoGos used to make a lot of their money off locals, especially during low season. I can't point to any of my friends or acquaintances who are long term residents that still patronize GoGos on a regular basis. When I arrived in 99 Cowboy was the hangout for expats with 80 baht beer, 400 baht barfines, and good looking gals who were actually nice that would stay all night for 1 k. About 80% of the time when you went into the bathroom the gal would have already put toothpaste on your toothbrush and when you came out of the toilet you clothes would be folded. You were treated like gold. Now, it is the guys that have to treat the P4 P gals like gold. Kinda bassackwards I think.
GoGos have become theater. Yes, I know there are a few dudes out there that still like them, but Phord it right, its a dying business.
I was the last years quite, because I live in Dubai and ISG is blocked. I know I should use VPN, which I have, but only little time to write and read.
So, I am back in Bangkok since yesterday and I can say I was abit surprise, about the change in quality. Lower Sukhumvit and the Night Clubs were not as busy like about half year ago. I am first time in February in Bangkok, maybe it's normal for that time of the year, but the Sukhumvit and the Sois were quite. Also, only older Ladys around. I can't recall that I have seen a Lady below 30 years of age. Same in the Clubs. In Climax were like 5 - 7 ladies whose might be younger than 30.
Well, from the older ones, some were Ok, but it's not more like it used to be. Maybe the good looking girls went to other places on weekend, or February is just a bad time for a holiday in Bangkok.
We have an entire thread, lately, about guys talking up the advantages of Wechat, Line, various methods of finding freelancers and avoiding bars. And you don't see the connection between these and CL in MX?
Anachronism. Noun. A thing belonging or appropriate to a period other than that in which it exists, especially a thing that is conspicuously old-fashioned.
If the above isn't a perfect definition of a BKK go-go bar, I don't know what is. :)
A "go-go" bar is a holdover from the Vietnam War days. Even the name "go-go" is an anachronism. SEA never had such a thing until the influx of western military personnel. Asians, in general, are pretty modest when it comes to sex. They may love to get up to mischief, but they don't flaunt it to the same extent as their Western counterparts. So, IMHO, the "go-go" concept was never a good fit for the Asian P4 P scene. It was designed to attract horny soldiers on I & I.
As we can all see, the Go-go scene has degenerated into scams, very high prices, very plain girls, very bad service. And it seems to me that most of the clientele are "tourists" looking to tick a particular box on their vacation to-do list.
I have had wonderful times in Vietnam with beautiful ladies. And VN has no go-go bars. I have had the time of my life in Myanmar, with some very wonderful ladies. Again, no go-go bars. I've had nice times, with nice ladies, in Chiang Mai and Udon Thani. And they have, what? One and zero go-gos, respectively? Go-go and the Asian P4 P scene don't really go together. There appears to be no cultural basis.
So, to summarize, if these 1960's rejects go away, maybe the scene will get back to what it was. Maybe the homely ladies will go back to their rice farms. Maybe we'd be rid of the "Coyote Scourge." Maybe the hordes of overpaying tourists will seek greener pastures. Maybe service levels in the remaining venues will go up. Who knows? If those things did happen, to answer your question, we'd all be better off. Maybe none of the above will happen. But I think my point still stands. Go-go bars are an anachronism.Just to add to the notion go-gos basically are foreign to Asian culture, aren't the vast majority of go-gos in Bangkok and Pattaya owned by foreigners? And most of the soapies and oil massage places by Thais? I'm not sure about this, but have that impression.
This is my FR from my first time in Bangkok. Mostly just observations. Sorry for the long post.
The next day was my last day in Bangkok for a month, so I had to try to be with a thai woman. I headed back to Dr. Bjs, looking for EE. Luckily she was working, however, she was pretty sore from the day before and wasn't offering vip (full service). Imagine my disappointment. She offered to let me be with someone else, but seeing this girl in person and how gorgeous she was, I was okay with settling for a BJ from her. Asked if I wanted a drink, so I yes, and asked if she can have a lady drink, which I also obliged. Be aware though, she didn't take one sip from this drink, I believe they just give her the same drink throughout the night and split the profits from the lady drink. She's tall, about 5'8, thin, beautiful face, big rack (can't tell if real or fake, huge pink saucer nipples though), no kids, and 28. She speaks with a british english accent, and wouldn't tell me her name, didn't want to tell me a fake one. So she said to call her by her I'd tag name, the letter E. Says she only does this part time. All this mysteriousness, has me questioning her true motives and identity. She might be connected to someone important, or trying to hide. Probably the best ball job I've ever had. It's soft and delicate and great swirling action. She then goes to work on my little guy. Not as impressive, but that face and body, I'm sure I didn't mind it much. She also didn't like her nipples twisted, and was too shy to take her boobs out, only letting the top out to sit on the bra. I told her if she lets me play with her boobs, I can cum faster, and she told me not to worry, we can take as long as you need. Wow! So she stands up and starts sucking me from the side, so I can play with her butt, boobs, legs, and vajayjay. I was getting excited and was ready to cum. I tell her, and she speeds up the power and motion while moaning. She's doing her tongue swirl on me and my head, and starts to suck while I pound her mouth while grabbing her boobs and playing with her damp pvssy. I eventually explode in her mouth, but unfortunately, most of it got on me, but she kept tongue swirling the head for whatever that cum followed, tasting a lot of my man juice. She cleans me up, and I'm on my way. Damage for the service and 2 drinks: 1240 THB. Face: 8. 5 Body: 8. 5 Service: 8. 5.
!Miss EE is more than 28, has a kid this by now should be 12 or so, has had a badly done boob none and that is why she very seldom takes them out. Not shy at all, she just don't want to expose the boobs. Super skilled I. BJ's she learnt the massage ropes at Annie's. She is definitely more fit for Dr BJ's so she doesn't have to be completely naked. She has been living abroad for a whole and had an italian boyfriend she lived with.
It is really a pit she never corrected the boob job as she could work in a more relaxed way.
Nice lady to chat with and a true professional.
Stopped into The Den on SOI 12 near the entrance to Insanity Night Club. This is a new concept in this area of Bangkok. I was told that the club used to be a Russian club or restaurant of some sort that was short lived. When the place went under, the bank left the Victorian bordello type couches to the new owners. The Den, as part of their decor, also features an aquarium above the bar that holds four black tip reef sharks and some sting rays, which is fascinating to observe if you get bored looking at the ladies of the club.
Next to this club is a short term hotel with several very nice rooms and tiled glass enclosed showers. They rent out the rooms for 500 bhat or 1000 for the large suite suitable for several girls or a small party. The Victorian era plush red couches can be enclosed by a diaphanous curtain for those who seek more privacy while they test drive the goods.
The first few times I stopped in I had a drink or two as they are reasonably priced. Lady drinks are 150 bhat. The third time I was looking for a girl who I briefly spoke to the night before. However, she was not working; indeed I was informed by the mamasan she would not be working in the future. Need to find out why as the mamaSan graciously provided me the girls phone number. Anyway, I invited another girl to sit with me.
Within a few minutes, I was making out with her on the couch like a teenager in the back seat of his dad's 57 Chevy while at he drive in movie. Really hot! The other girls noticed our activity and drew the curtains for more privacy. It was not long before the mamasan came over to arrange the final details. Basically 500 bhat for the room and 2000 to the girl which was supposed to be for 1 1/2 but the girl who spoke no English did not get this memo. When I say no English even 'What's Your name?' was a challenge. The room was very comfortable and she was an enthusiastic shag but refused DATY or a BJ, covered or otherwise. However, I found myself barebacking this girl, which is a rarity for me. Can't remember the last time it happened.
Anyway, the 1 1/2 amount of time did not happen but still enjoyed this sweet 23 year old.
I went to go check out loli-tas across the way, and since I was running out of time, I pretty much had to take my pick there.
The girls aren't great looking here. Most are on the chubby side, with ok looking faces. They all were wearing school girl outfits. The most popular girl, who might have had a 7. 5 body, and a 7. 5 was snatched up back to back when I got there. The girl who brought me in was pretty pushy and annoying, but the 2nd best looking out of the whole bunch. One of the girls, who probably had the best body, had a manly looking face. I was almost convinced she was a ladyboy or used to be a man. I even asked the whole group, just to see what kind of response I got from her. And in typical fashion, she answered that they are all women, and always have been. She had to be a man, especially with that face. Time was ticking, and the girl who brought me in was occupied. My choices were 3 chubsters and the man. And then the choice became harder when a group of guys came in. I opted to wait out for the original girl, who's name was Nont, a 32 year old with 1 kid. Luckily, the guy she was with, finished pretty quickly. And I snatched her up before any of the other guys could see her. She took me upstairs into a room, with curtains for privacy. If you guys are into privacy, this is not the place. You will hear everything going on in the next chair, it's literally 1 feet of separation between each chair. You can even see the socks on the feet of everyone being serviced. I have no problem with it, even prefer it because I get to hear all the girls moaning and gagging, while most of the guys were too shy to make a peep, except for me hahaha. She cleans you up and begins right away. It's very mechanical, and no change in technique or anything. She just goes up and down with her head, like if you were jerking yourself. I asked to see and grab her boobs, but she made a big fuss about it. I told her I can cum quicker that way, so she obliged. Her boobs were ok, not big or great looking, but soft and a handful. She didn't like her nipples twisted or squeezed, they were the large saucer types. For another 15 minutes she continues going up and down, doesn't work my boys, doesn't stroke me, nothing. I told her to make eye contact with me while I blew my load in her mouth, she obliged. I emptied out 5 days worth of my cum into her mouth, while she takes the whole thing and maintains deep eye contact while I do it. Takes every last violent drop. She goes to clean up, comes back to clean me up. SHE ASKS FOR A TIP, I SAY NO. And go downstairs to pay and be on my way. 800 THB for that, 1200 THB for full service, 1500 THB for 1 hour full service. I had a couple of beers, so damage was 1060 THB. Face: 7 Body: 7 Service: 8.It's pretty common to give a BJ Bar girl a tip. The service she gave you is the kind of service you will get from the majority of these girls. It's a wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am kind of business. IMHO a 200 B tip is normal for this standard service.
I mean, I'm not gay, but the ladyboys were much better looking than the girls, which is pretty sad. I doubt that gays like ladyboys. Gays like real men, not men who behave and look like women.
And straight men who like ladyboys like them because they are feminine. So also for them it has nothing to do with homosexuality.
Uncle Volodya
02-14-15, 08:56
The first thai girl I wanted to be with was a girl from Dr. Bjs blowjob bar. She's listed as EE on the website, with her face blocked. But if you search the internet, there's pictures of her full face.!Is this her? She is hot indeed.
Thanks for the FR. Very informative. I'm sorry you had a tough time finding GFE girls. Yes it seems it is getting harder.
But I am glad you had a nice time at Dr BJs. I will definitely give it a try next time I am in BKK.
Stay horny my friend.
UNcle-V.
The next day was my last day in Bangkok for a month, so I had to try to be with a thai woman. I headed back to Dr. Bjs, looking for EE. Luckily she was working, however, she was pretty sore from the day before and wasn't offering vip (full service). Imagine my disappointment. She offered to let me be with someone else, but seeing this girl in person and how gorgeous she was, I was okay with settling for a BJ from her. Asked if I wanted a drink, so I yes, and asked if she can have a lady drink, which I also obliged. Be aware though, she didn't take one sip from this drink, I believe they just give her the same drink throughout the night and split the profits from the lady drink. She's tall, about 5'8, thin, beautiful face, big rack (can't tell if real or fake, huge pink saucer nipples though), no kids, and 28. She speaks with a british english accent, and wouldn't tell me her name, didn't want to tell me a fake one. So she said to call her by her I'd tag name, the letter E. Says she only does this part time. All this mysteriousness, has me questioning her true motives and identity. She might be connected to someone important, or trying to hide. Regardless, she takes me upstairs to this tiny room with a chair that used to be for washing hair in beauty salons. The place is not comfortable nor comfortable for her, as she has to kneel on a metal stool with no pad or pillow. She told me how shy she was because of how handsome I was, I'm sure she says that to a lot of people, although I get this a lot from a lot of the girls I session with. After washing my junk, she sits me down and starts with my boys. Oh my goodness, this girl has amazing tongue skills. Probably the best ball job I've ever had. It's soft and delicate and great swirling action. She then goes to work on my little guy. Not as impressive, but that face and body, I'm sure I didn't mind it much. She also didn't like her nipples twisted, and was too shy to take her boobs out, only letting the top out to sit on the bra. I told her if she lets me play with her boobs, I can cum faster, and she told me not to worry, we can take as long as you need. Wow! So she stands up and starts sucking me from the side, so I can play with her butt, boobs, legs, and vajayjay. I was getting excited and was ready to cum. I tell her, and she speeds up the power and motion while moaning. She's doing her tongue swirl on me and my head, and starts to suck while I pound her mouth while grabbing her boobs and playing with her damp pvssy. I eventually explode in her mouth, but unfortunately, most of it got on me, but she kept tongue swirling the head for whatever that cum followed, tasting a lot of my man juice. She cleans me up, and I'm on my way. Damage for the service and 2 drinks: 1240 THB. Face: 8. 5 Body: 8. 5 Service: 8. 5.So you didn't tip this girl either? The service at Dr BJ is on average better than in most other BJ venues. The kind of service this particular girl gave you is worth a 300 B tip IMHO.
Wolvenvacht
02-14-15, 09:01
A "go-go" bar is a holdover from the Vietnam War days.
(. . .)
So, to summarize, if these 1960's rejects go away, maybe the scene will get back to what it was. Maybe the homely ladies will go back to their rice farms. Maybe we'd be rid of the "Coyote Scourge." Maybe the hordes of overpaying tourists will seek greener pastures. Maybe service levels in the remaining venues will go up. Who knows? If those things did happen, to answer your question, we'd all be better off. Maybe none of the above will happen. But I think my point still stands. Go-go bars are an anachronism.Interesting analysis and from a historical point of view, probably even contains a grain of truth.
But. . . My question is: if the agogo clubs go away, what will replace them? How will the scene actually improve?
Is this her? She is hot indeed.
UNcle-V.Really? Not my type of girl but we all have different taste of course. Although in the pic she looks very 'plastic' and photoshopped so maybe she looks better in reality.
Pointy Stick
02-14-15, 13:55
Miss EE is more than 28, has a kid this by now should be 12 or so, has had a badly done boob none and that is why she very seldom takes them out. Not shy at all, she just don't want to expose the boobs. Super skilled I. BJ's she learnt the massage ropes at Annie's. She is definitely more fit for Dr BJ's so she doesn't have to be completely naked. She has been living abroad for a whole and had an italian boyfriend she lived with.
It is really a pit she never corrected the boob job as she could work in a more relaxed way.
Nice lady to chat with and a true professional.She's definitely over 30 probably around 32 I think. She's been servicing me for about 2 years so had about 20 BJ's from her with 1 VIP session. Maybe she afraid of being stalked or something hence her reticence about giving out her personal details and having her pic blurred out since she told me in the past. Damn can't get the thought of those lips and tongue around my knob from my head.
Really? Not my type of girl but we all have different taste of course. Although in the pic she looks very 'plastic' and photoshopped so maybe she looks better in reality.Actually the photo is real though several years old. EE really looks that way. I haven't seen her in a year. The problem with EE unless she has had another op is that she has the worst sillies I have seen on a girl. They are EE and droopy. It is actually better when she keeps the bra on to keep up the illusion. Service is excellent and she does anal as well. At least she used to. She does a great Nuru body slide. All in all great service but the boobs put me off so much that I haven't repeated.
Member #4698
02-14-15, 16:01
Yeah, horrible boobs. It is really a shame. I know another girl from Baccara, an absolute darling, who ruined herself as well with an awful boob job. She had such lovely natural "A" cups before. I took her twice after her augmentation. The first time because I did not know for sure. She looked a little fuller, but sometimes the girls wear pushup bras to flatter their bust line. I had trouble cumming and the sweet girl did everything she could think of to make it happen, finally succeeding in reverse cowgirl after 40 minutes of action. The 2nd time I barfined, her post enhancements, was a mercy shag. I don't know why I did it really except that I liked her a lot and I knew her a long time prior. To induce me a 2nd time she offered herself bareback and I accepted. I couldn't say no.
She was not in BKK the last time I was in town and I wonder if she will be around when I shortly return. Why do these girls go under the knife? That is a rhetorical question. It's too bad. There is no accounting for the bad taste of some punters.
So you didn't tip this girl either? The service at Dr BJ is on average better than in most other BJ venues. The kind of service this particular girl gave you is worth a 300 B tip IMHO.Been going to oilies for about 8 years running now. Pay the house oily fee plus the 1500 baht to the cashier as I walk out. Never tip a baht, except to the gal who bring my water to whom I give 20. Always get fantastic service from gals.
Hi everyone,
This is the second post of my "Checking BJ Bars" series. Here's the link to the first post:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1682125&viewfull=1#post1682125.
Due to the good service I received on my first visit to Lollipop 1, I gave it another try the following day. This time in the evening around 6:30 PM and the line-up contained 4 girls excluding the one behind the bar. Spotted a slim and relatively tall one with short blue dress talking to her mobile phone and immediately selected her. She was kinda attractive and was definitely a few years younger than the one I chose on my first visit. Grabbed my hand and we went upstairs. Going behind her, the figure of her buttocks made me rock hard. So, we went to the attic and this time she chose to sit on the left side behind the curtains. Initial greetings and cleanings and taking off the cloths went on and she started the job. Thumbs up to her warm mouth and yes! She has a good technique to but she was still using her hands may be to prevent me from the possibility of making her go deep by force which I would definitely never ever do to a lady. She kept the pace and went on very well for about 10 minutes and then I blew my load and OMG! I think my shot gone very far down her throat which made her choke and cough for a while. She immediately recovered and gave me a nice smile answering my question about whether she is OK or not. A few minutes chatting and cleaning and we were out. 700 THB to the bar-girl and 300 THB to the girl. I said goodbye and left.
Well! I give them a score of 3 out of 5. Very good service. Good English. Staff very very friendly (at least the two I've chosen) and not pushy at all.
Here it is! My next report is going to be about my visit of Dr. BJs.
WarmStone25
02-14-15, 19:42
Business Model.
In my recent visit to Bangkok I saw a city of contrasts. The hotel that I stayed in was to a good modern standard in terms of facilities and service. Adjacent and connected to the hotel was Terminal 21 Mall which is was also to a good modern standard in terms of facilities and service. This is probably the best mall in Bangkok. These business make their offering in accordance with modern and relevant business models and in accordance with what their customers demand. I came to think of the hotel as an oasis. In contrast, and on the opposite side of the road, the businesses in Soi Cowboy make their offering in a dilapidated run down area in accordance with a business model which has not been updated since the time of the Vietnam war. Businesses have to adapt according to what their customers demand to survive.
Uncle Volodya
02-14-15, 21:51
Yeah, horrible boobs. It is really a shame. I know another girl from Baccara, an absolute darling, who ruined herself as well with an awful boob job. She had such lovely natural "A" cups before. I took her twice after her augmentation. The first time because I did not know for sure. She looked a little fuller, but sometimes the girls wear pushup bras to flatter their bust line. I had trouble cumming and the sweet girl did everything she could think of to make it happen, finally succeeding in reverse cowgirl after 40 minutes of action. The 2nd time I barfined, her post enhancements, was a mercy shag. I don't know why I did it really except that I liked her a lot and I knew her a long time prior. To induce me a 2nd time she offered herself bareback and I accepted. I couldn't say no.
She was not in BKK the last time I was in town and I wonder if she will be around when I shortly return. Why do these girls go under the knife? That is a rhetorical question. It's too bad. There is no accounting for the bad taste of some punters.I actually don't mind them if they are nicely done. I am no expert on cosmetic surgery, but I've found that if the girls have the smaller ones that are done through an incision under the armpit, that they can be quite nice and feel good to the touch too.
I am no fan of the big hard basketball feeling ones. These are definitely a turn off for me. Maybe this is a cheaper option that a lot of girls go for?
Uncle Volodya
02-14-15, 21:53
Really? Although in the pic she looks very 'plastic' and photoshopped so maybe she looks better in reality.That was my thought exactly. I am not a glasses fan either. But I know a lot of guys are.
Anyhow I think she looks pretty good. If you combine that with the wicked BJ she gave the guy in the FR it seems like a pretty appealing package. IMHO.
Member #4698
02-14-15, 22:13
I actually don't mind them if they are nicely done. I am no expert on cosmetic surgery, but I've found that if the girls have the smaller ones that are done through an incision under the armpit, that they can be quite nice and feel good to the touch too. I am no fan of the big hard basketball feeling ones. These are definitely a turn off for me. Tip's bolt-ons were baseballs. Very unnatural. A mutilation, IMHO, of a really cute, nice girl.
Folks, its likely that I will get to be in BKK in early March and would greatly appreciate if someone could please point me to where could I get some Super Kamagra. I have tried asking the pharmacies in the past and they don't seem to have it. Some of the street vendors seem to carry it but not sure how legit it is. Thanks!!
Uncle Volodya
02-14-15, 22:39
Tip's bolt-ons were baseballs. Very unnatural. A mutilation, IMHO, of a really cute, nice girl.Well that is indeed a travesty/tragedy.
I actually don't mind them if they are nicely done. I am no expert on cosmetic surgery, but I've found that if the girls have the smaller ones that are done through an incision under the armpit, that they can be quite nice and feel good to the touch too.
I am no fan of the big hard basketball feeling ones. These are definitely a turn off for me. Maybe this is a cheaper option that a lot of girls go for?Agree, if it is a good job I quite like them. The teardrop implants look natural and feel great. A great help to so many Thai gals who are ferociously under-titted.
Houston Player
02-15-15, 03:01
Business Model.
Terminal 21 Mall which is was also to a good modern standard in terms of facilities and service. This is probably the best mall in Bangkok.I believe this is the second time you have made a reference to the Mall at Terminal 21 as the best mall in Bangkok. While I agree with your first statement about the mall I disagree with it being the best in Bangkok. Even with my limited knowledge of Bangkok I think the mall at Siam is a much better and larger mall than Terminal 21.
I believe this is the second time you have made a reference to the Mall at Terminal 21 as the best mall in Bangkok. While I agree with your first statement about the mall I disagree with it being the best in Bangkok. Even with my limited knowledge of Bangkok I think the mall at Siam is a much better and larger mall than Terminal 21.Agreed, if "best" means upscale, then Siam Paragon might be the best. The stores in Terminal 21 are smaller and they don't carry the Hi so brands. It is the best mall I know of, anywhere, for eating, if you're not looking for a fancy meal.
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