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Yes, too much.
Are you sure? http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/221631/30-foreigners-detained-during-id-checks-in-pattaya-nightclubs/.
In fact is very difficult get scammed from freelancers. With a little care, avoiding to be too much drunk and use a hotel where the staff check girl's ID and call you in the room when you finish the session is enough for not have problem with a freelancers.
Recommend to avoid freelancers is a simply no sense, IMHO.It's very much worth noting that nothing reported on pattayaone is credible. Horrible source of information. They always spin the story leaving only 20% of it accurate. The people who are victims in some of those stories will show up in the comments and clearly explain how wrong and biased that website is, giving an account of the events that is so different than what was "reported". However, that doesn't mean it didn't happen according to what they say, in this particular case. Just depends on how much they feel the need to fabricate reality, since their so concerned with Pattaya's tourist image.
So "detained" doesn't mean arrested. It usually just means that the police stopped you for some duration, asking questions, or maybe you had to sit in a waiting room in the police station. Going to a club with your real passport is a horrible idea. It's so easy for it to just fall out of your pockets.
So, the article says (which is hard to believe what they say, given their past / recent screw ups):
On this occasion 30 foreign nationals were briefly detained at the Tourist Police Station until they were able to produce their passports.Which is exactly why I keep my passport safe. In the event I am detained, I can have it produced within mere hours. If I lose it however, I am stuck dealing with my consulate in proving my identity, which is difficult, and requires original birth certificates. Furthermore, the consulates in Thailand are very corrupt. The US consulate has connections with the boiler room mafia and even had 2 American citizens, who the mafia feared would snitch, falsely arrested (silenced): http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2015/02/bangkok-boiler-rooms-part-2-exclusive.html.
Recommend to avoid freelancers is a simply no sense, IMHO.
It is quite logical. For a newbie, simply avoid freelancers, if they are so timid and concerned. Let them get their feet wet with all the other options, which will still be sensory overload for them anyway. There are many reports (not in the corrupt media) of men being drugged and robbed. Sometimes they are dosed too high and die in their room.
Thai people carry their ID-cards too al the time. If it's OK for them, it will be OK for us too.Thais can replace their ID cards in their own country, within a reasonable process. They have access to plenty of paperwork and trust (family farm for example). Passports on the other hand, are way more difficult to replace while abroad. Maybe your country and their Thai consulate, this is easy. But for say a country like America, it is not a simple process. It requires: "an original or certified copy of a USA Birth certificate, or a previous or expired passport. " Good luck trying to get your original birth certificate IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY. You can have it mailed to you, but pray to the gods that isn't lost in transit or you will be screwed.
Basically, what it comes down to, is, for Americans. Carry your passport with you, if you don't mind going thru the hassles of replacing it. If you have a previously expired passport, you are in pretty good shape, although you may still have quite a migraine with the process anyway. If you don't have a previous passport, you're going to have a pretty bad time if you lose your current passport.
Source: http://bangkok.usembassy.gov/lost_stolen_passports.html.
Guys,
How do you be discrete for our activities in Thailand. I booked my ticket and my hotel together to get cheaper rates but now I am guessing the hotel staff would have my my full name and passport and etc. If I were to bring a girl to the hotel wouldn't they know? On another note I believe in Thailand you have to carry your passport everywhere so how do you guys make sure the lady does not open your passport and find out your identity? Could you guys share some tips on how to remain discrete and make sure nothing gets stolen? By the way I did a quite search on youtubr and it seems there is a poster who takes video and exposes guys soliciting ladies. He would sit in front of the short time hotel and switch on his camera. You can see mostly farang with younger ladies and etc. Am I being paranoid here?Yeah. There is a food degree of paranoid in this. Do you think an hotel will bother about your identity linked to bringing a girl or two? They just want to make nothing bad occurs to the hotel and to the hotel guests. So they collect the girl ID for your safety. Do you think they then call your wife? Just carry a photocopy of your passport in your wallet and, again, nobody will bother on who are you. Do you think they are so sophisticated? Even the worst Shangai scams, aim to drag money from you or, eventually put you in troubles with police if you go to police. Nobdiy at home will even know unless you are in jail, mbut even then. Most likely they kick you out of the country and never allow you back.
Mr Enternational
02-27-16, 19:49
Passports on the other hand, are way more difficult to replace while abroad. Maybe your country and their Thai consulate, this is easy. But for say a country like America, it is not a simple process. It requires: "an original or certified copy of a USA Birth certificate, or a previous or expired passport. " Good luck trying to get your original birth certificate IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY. You can have it mailed to you, but pray to the gods that isn't lost in transit or you will be screwed.Not true at all. My buddy arrived in Thailand and when he was dropped off in Pattaya he realized he had left his passport in the taxi. Ordinarily a taxi guy would have brought it back, but my boy had had it out with this driver for some reason. The next day he took the bus to Bangkok and went to the US Embassy for a replacement passport. He did not have any of that fancy certified birth certificate stuff that you speak of. If nothing else they can give you a temporary passport to travel on until you get back home. I think those are good for 1 year.
Banana Boi
02-27-16, 20:00
How do you be discrete for our activities in Thailand. By the way I did a quite search on youtubr and it seems there is a poster who takes video and exposes guys soliciting ladies. He would sit in front of the short time hotel and switch on his camera. You can see mostly farang with younger ladies and etc. Am I being paranoid here?Why do you need to be discrete? This is Thailand.
If you mean exposes by posting a video on youtube don't walk down Walking Street since tourists are taking videos everywhere. You can always wear a Donald Trump mask.
Eszpresszo
02-28-16, 03:05
I think the problem might be you my brother. Every time I go, if I'm not hungry, I decline the food. Beer is much cheaper than Soi cowboy or Nana, I just tell them I'm not hungry and keep ordering beer. If you don't want to drink and you sit there and order 1 beer every hour, then of course, any bar won't be happy. Think about it, it's common sense.Sounds like a plan. But we all have to eat. We all need to eat when we arein party mode.
If the prices are fair and they don't push drinks on you or the girls don't push lady drinks on you its sounds preferable to the loud and expensive venues th at cater to foreigners. Any reason not to enjoy a snack at these types of places? I've read other opinions from other places on the net which suggest one should seek out bars and clubs that appeal to locals and not just tourists. Maybe you expound more on this area and some of the specifics. Thanks.
Guys,
How do you be discrete for our activities in Thailand. I booked my ticket and my hotel together to get cheaper rates but now I am guessing the hotel staff would have my my full name and passport and etc. If I were to bring a girl to the hotel wouldn't they know? On another note I believe in Thailand you have to carry your passport everywhere so how do you guys make sure the lady does not open your passport and find out your identity? Could you guys share some tips on how to remain discrete and make sure nothing gets stolen? By the way I did a quite search on youtubr and it seems there is a poster who takes video and exposes guys soliciting ladies. He would sit in front of the short time hotel and switch on his camera. You can see mostly farang with younger ladies and etc. Am I being paranoid here?You can control your level of discreteness when you need to, if their is a reason. Firstly, you do not take bargirls or freelancer to your Hotel if your wife or colleagues stay at same Hotel. Likewise I do not monger at my home apartment. Blabber mouths and gossipers are very strong in Thailand. I have made the error of being a regular customer at a Sports Pub that is a little too close to Cowboy. One staff from the pub have seen me outside a ST Hotel and just outside Cowboy area with an very attractive young lady, who clearly was not my GF. Expect soon everyone to hear about it. Fortunately my GF keeps away from Sports Pub.
Fortunately I am a nobody but always risk being seen by someone who knows my girlfriend if mongering in public. So best to keep activities indoors, inside an Oily MP, inside a bar (don't use outside bars if risk someone could see you), travel with your girl by taxi to your Hotel to minimise visibility. Have particular Hotels where all your liaisons with girls will happen. I have concerns about Hotels reporting my behavior to someone. Does not happen as far as I know. Who would be interested? If I have mongered at a Hotel, would never take a Girlfriend or wife there.
I advise against carrying your Passport with you. A copy yes. I have lost a bag in a supermarket containing my passport on one occasion. Critical very very costly error. Caused some Visas to be terminated. You just cannot afford to lose your passport. Loss of phone, camera etc. In same bag paled into insignificance.
I have never been too concerned about a girl finding out who I am, they just aren't interested. However I am not famous. I have contact with some girls on LINE App. I tend not to include my surname on the details of my profile. They my know my nick names. No big deal. Never ever seen a girl trying to look in my wallet. Free Lancers are the least trustworthy and Ladyboys even less trustworthy.
Occasionally I have seen people using cameras in Soi Cowboy and am a bit wary of those.
Customers have been thrown out of the bar after they tried to take pictures on phone or otherwise. Usually it is Asian customers that try this. Never seen a Farang apprehended for this.
LittleBigMan
02-28-16, 06:03
Not true at all. My buddy arrived in Thailand and when he was dropped off in Pattaya he realized he had left his passport in the taxi. Ordinarily a taxi guy would have brought it back, but my boy had had it out with this driver for some reason. The next day he took the bus to Bangkok and went to the US Embassy for a replacement passport. He did not have any of that fancy certified birth certificate stuff that you speak of. If nothing else they can give you a temporary passport to travel on until you get back home. I think those are good for 1 year.That is correct. This would be considered a emergency and a appointment wouldn't be necessary.
That is correct. This would be considered a emergency and a appointment wouldn't be necessary.Agreed. And the notion you would need to present a USA Consulate with your birth certificate in order to get an emergency passport after losing the original doesn't make sense anyway, unless loss of passport is to be penalized by permanent banishment from the USA.
I don't carry my passport in Thailand, but do so in Jakarta where there are police blockades looking for, among other things, foreigners without passports that can be shaken down for bribes (before beginning to carry around my passport, I had two such incidents with corrupt police officers). In the Jakarta thread one of the senior citizens (or perhaps a "senile citizen") criticized me for carrying my passport and suggested that I therefore had no credibility on the forum on any topic. I suppose I also would have lost points with him had I revealed I also carry my driver's license on me while in my home country.
In any event, I put my passport in a passport holder that has a clip that attaches to one of my front belt loops while the passport is in my front pocket. This makes it virtually impossible to lose by pickpocket or it simply falling out of my pocket. I suppose if someone put a gun to may head I would have to give it up, but at that point losing my passport would likely be the least of my problems. In any event, carrying one's passport in a passport holder that attaches to a belt loop is one way to lower the risks inherent in carrying one's passport around town. It may be a bit inconvenient, but less so than dealing with situations where a police officer, particularly a corrupt one, asks for a passport and you don't have it on you. And although one might counter that a corrupt police officer will find something else to use against you, somehow even corrupt police have rules they abide by and in my experience showing that you have your passport generally will get them off your back.
Sounds like a plan. But we all have to eat. We all need to eat when we arein party mode.
If the prices are fair and they don't push drinks on you or the girls don't push lady drinks on you its sounds preferable to the loud and expensive venues th at cater to foreigners. Any reason not to enjoy a snack at these types of places? I've read other opinions from other places on the net which suggest one should seek out bars and clubs that appeal to locals and not just tourists. Maybe you expound more on this area and some of the specifics. Thanks.I have ordered food from a gogo bar, but very rarely. Most of us do not need to eat, other than the desire to eat pussy.
Thai entertainment venues are more for groups of people to eat, drink, and be merry, enjoy music and dancing. However, when I attend a gogo bar, I am usually arriving alone (did take a buddy to Saphan Kwai and could help being an interpreter), and am not there for eating, socialising with buddies, music not so much (although really bad non-music irritates), and don't even drink alcohol usually. It's purely for naked girls, and some regulars or new stunners hopefully. I can be in party mode (with girls) but do not require food and alcohol. I usually eat a small meal before arriving, unless time has run out and may eat a snack very late instead. I think I am more like Natty Bumpo. We prefer to party a little with girls. Other guys are quite unnecessary.
I imagine that Thai men at Sapahn Kwai venues would come in groups or join groups, typically.
I have ordered food from a gogo bar, but very rarely. Most of us do not need to eat, other than the desire to eat pussy.
Thai entertainment venues are more for groups of people to eat, drink, and be merry, enjoy music and dancing. However, when I attend a gogo bar, I am usually arriving alone (did take a buddy to Saphan Kwai and could help being an interpreter), and am not there for eating, socialising with buddies, music not so much (although really bad non-music irritates), and don't even drink alcohol usually. It's purely for naked girls, and some regulars or new stunners hopefully. I can be in party mode (with girls) but do not require food and alcohol. I usually eat a small meal before arriving, unless time has run out and may eat a snack very late instead. I think I am more like Natty Bumpo. We prefer to party a little with girls. Other guys are quite unnecessary.
I imagine that Thai men at Sapahn Kwai venues would come in groups or join groups, typically.So right. Thai entertainment venues all have food. It is just part of the culture. If they did not have food the locals would not go. It's a group thing and is about socializing as much as anything else. Thais go out in groups; they rarely go out alone.
Eszpresszo
02-28-16, 15:43
That is correct. This would be considered a emergency and a appointment wouldn't be necessary.Now you guys who are US citizens should be aware that there is such a thing as a "Passport Card". Its basically a small, driver's license size travel document that allows you to travel through North America in countries that previously only required a driver's license as ID (Canada, Mexico, much of the Caribbean.) This isn't going to get you into Thailand, but it is acceptable ID for the US consulate. These are cheap and they fit in your wallet. I carry one with me abroad, when I can't take my passport on the streets with me. It doesn't hurt to carry both (albeit not in the same place). You will see this document discussed in the forums about Mexico. Not sure what the rest of the world has that is an equivalent, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is some form of national ID card that would suffice at your consulate, in the event of a lost passport.
Now you guys who are US citizens should be aware that there is such a thing as a "Passport Card". Its basically a small, driver's license size travel document that allows you to travel through North America in countries that previously only required a driver's license as ID (Canada, Mexico, much of the Caribbean.) This isn't going to get you into Thailand, but it is acceptable ID for the US consulate. These are cheap and they fit in your wallet. I carry one with me abroad, when I can't take my passport on the streets with me. It doesn't hurt to carry both (albeit not in the same place). You will see this document discussed in the forums about Mexico. Not sure what the rest of the world has that is an equivalent, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is some form of national ID card that would suffice at your consulate, in the event of a lost passport.Lots of countries nearby accept EU ID cards (France, Spain, Germany, Italy all have one of their own, maybe others too) accept the national ID to enter their countries. It has been changing a bit though, recently, but I do recall Egypt and turkey did accept the national ID card to enter them. The national ID card is a fully legitimate ID card that your own authorities (consulate for one) HAVE to accept as identification mean. Has been good for me once in USA and Australia, when my passport picture was not making the immigration too happy (was badly passed at origin) and I showed them my ID card as a further proof of identification.
Member #4591
02-29-16, 02:55
Anyone know what happened to stumble inn? Prime location and used to be packed day and night. Girl I know quit and went to work at Hillary, something must have happened. New owners?Hmmm. I think you should ask the girl you know who quit and went to work at Hillary. She might know, don't ya think?
Member #4591
02-29-16, 03:09
I don't quite understand. Why is the difference between ST and LT so low? Is this basically due to girl only having the chance to make one ST per night? Does the girl keep all the 2000 ST or is someone taking a cut out of that? since you aren't paying that to her directly. Is this a set fee?
Why so much as 500 ti the moma. She must be raking it in?
I have been to T Det. My buddy took a short time but I did not. I found it a bit less easy to get to the most desirable girl than at cowboy. I. e. She was busy or assigned to other tables. I didn't find the next best level good enough to my taste.
Do you often end up getting your first choce girl easily? I guess there is always returning another night, but I couldn't be bothered, as not immediately hooked by the setup.
I suppose I did not know the system on how to get a lap dance from the most desired girl when she was not in the vicinity. Most of the customers sit politely and don't run around chasing a girl like I was tempted to do but resisted.
Its too spread out for me. This limits. the girls that are dancing nearby. If I like a girl, I would like to be near where she is dancing but this is not practical.
I guess this place is designed for guys that are not fussy and should like all the girls equally well. Not how I operate. I like a very small portion of the girls and ignore all the rest. You take a long time to see all the girls there wirh their rotation system and then by the time you have worked out which one you like, she is bound to be busy already with a customer.
Perhaps there are ways for a regular to overcome this?Let me try and help you with this. I have been to all the bars in the SK area. It's set up like most of the bars in nana or Soi cowboy. If you want a girl, it does not matter if you are Thai or Farang, the best and only way to do it is to call a MoMA son over and ask them to go and collect the girl. If you need time in any bar to decide, there is always a chance the girl will be busy. Your posts about CH prove that theory. There are 2 bars opposite each other at the beginning of the street. The one on the left is huge and seems to be the most popular, if you don't find a girl quick, she will be taken. The bar opposite is more a place to sing, eat and drink with your lady and is more laid back. As you comtinue around the corner there are 4 more bars. The largest is on the right side with 2 entrances. One entrance is down the Soi and the other on the main road. This one is also very popular with many girls spread out. However there are 2 smaller bars that are perfect for you. One is to the left of this bar, and the other is opposite. Both are small venues and not spread out. You can easily get the lay of the land and chill out until you can choose your girl.
Member #4591
02-29-16, 03:12
BKKDog,
Any chance to enlighten us on any of these questions? I thought perhaps some questions could be answered easily. Of course I can understand if you don't like the questions for one reason or another. Just that my one visit there did not give me enough knowledge to understand the workings that well myself?
Syzy.Syzy. Anytime you would like to meet up for a night in SK, let me know. I tried to send you a PM but for some reason you have turned your PM function off or it has been revoked. I can PM other members so it's not a problem on my end.
Now you guys who are US citizens should be aware that there is such a thing as a "Passport Card". Its basically a small, driver's license size travel document that allows you to travel through North America in countries that previously only required a driver's license as ID (Canada, Mexico, much of the Caribbean.) This isn't going to get you into Thailand, but it is acceptable ID for the US consulate. These are cheap and they fit in your wallet. I carry one with me abroad, when I can't take my passport on the streets with me. It doesn't hurt to carry both (albeit not in the same place). You will see this document discussed in the forums about Mexico. Not sure what the rest of the world has that is an equivalent, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is some form of national ID card that would suffice at your consulate, in the event of a lost passport.Once I was stopped in Jakarta for a passport check. I had a photocopy of my passport along with my USA -based driver's license and my friend had his passport card but not his passport. The policeman, who was obviously fishing for bribes, told me the copy of my passport and state ID. Were insufficient (even though I had earlier been told the opposite by an Indonesian lawyer, but he was probably wrong). When the police officer saw my friend's passport card he became a bit befuddled but then focused on me to get his bribe. In other words the passport card sort of worked although if my friend had been traveling alone without a better bribe prospect (I. E. , me with my photocopy) it might not have. In any case, it is not a bad idea to have one to carry around, although in situations where one might be vulnerable to being asked for one's passport, e. G. , North Jakarta at night, it may not be enough.
Edit: Usually I edit out the errors introduced by the auto-incorrector on this site, but there are just too many here so I'm leaving it alone.
Member #4591
02-29-16, 03:49
I have ordered food from a gogo bar, but very rarely. Most of us do not need to eat, other than the desire to eat pussy.
Thai entertainment venues are more for groups of people to eat, drink, and be merry, enjoy music and dancing. However, when I attend a gogo bar, I am usually arriving alone (did take a buddy to Saphan Kwai and could help being an interpreter), and am not there for eating, socialising with buddies, music not so much (although really bad non-music irritates), and don't even drink alcohol usually. It's purely for naked girls, and some regulars or new stunners hopefully. I can be in party mode (with girls) but do not require food and alcohol. I usually eat a small meal before arriving, unless time has run out and may eat a snack very late instead. I think I am more like Natty Bumpo. We prefer to party a little with girls. Other guys are quite unnecessary.
I imagine that Thai men at Sapahn Kwai venues would come in groups or join groups, typically.In the 2 larger bars the Thais come in groups but there are often single men in their too.
CaptCabins
02-29-16, 06:25
You can control your level of discreteness when you need to, if their is a reason. Firstly, you do not take bargirls or freelancer to your Hotel if your wife or colleagues stay at same Hotel. Likewise I do not monger at my home apartment. Blabber mouths and gossipers are very strong in Thailand. I have made the error of being a regular customer at a Sports Pub that is a little too close to Cowboy. One staff from the pub have seen me outside a ST Hotel and just outside Cowboy area with an very attractive young lady, who clearly was not my GF. Expect soon everyone to hear about it. Fortunately my GF keeps away from Sports Pub.
Fortunately I am a nobody but always risk being seen by someone who knows my girlfriend if mongering in public. So best to keep activities indoors, inside an Oily MP, inside a bar (don't use outside bars if risk someone could see you), travel with your girl by taxi to your Hotel to minimise visibility. Have particular Hotels where all your liaisons with girls will happen. I have concerns about Hotels reporting my behavior to someone. Does not happen as far as I know. Who would be interested? If I have mongered at a Hotel, would never take a Girlfriend or wife there.
I advise against carrying your Passport with you. A copy yes. I have lost a bag in a supermarket containing my passport on one occasion. Critical very very costly error. Caused some Visas to be terminated. You just cannot afford to lose your passport. Loss of phone, camera etc. Syzgies,
Thanks for the reply. Syzgies if I wanted girl who look like Chinese or Korean rather than brown skin Thai look which is better Nana plaza or Soi Cowboy? Could you suggest a club that has light skin or more Chinese or Korean looks?
By the way if you were by accident to take out ladyboy from an agogo club back are they dangerous. Will they hit you or something if you decide not to proceed with them in the hotel. From the youtube video it seems that the ladyboys really do like girls. My friend accidentally weren't to spanky and took a lb by mistake. It wad a bad experience for him I fuess as he refuse to talk in detail about it. I think maybe the lb roughed him up or something.
On another note if I had on eday which is better Nana plaza or sow c9 wboy. Ia 2500 baht a reasonable rate for short time?
After I had a go with the popular Ying from Tulip I headed to Mermaid Hotel for a short pit-stop and continued my journey to Soi Cowboy.
I think it was something before 10 PM that I reached CH and off I went in not really knowing what to expect. Even though I have been reading stories about CH I was not expecting that practically all women were naked. Let's say from all the women on stage which was about 12 to 15 ladies there were maybe two that still had 'something' on. As for me being a newbie here I have to say that there were quite some of them who were attractive with one that was very attractive (again, for me I would go for an overall 7,5/8 out of 10 even though the 8 might be a tiny bit too optimistic). A slim short haired tattooed woman with a small handful of tits. Not an inch of fat visible from where I was sitting (sat on a couch on the right side when you come in the place). It might even be that she has a piercing in her nipple (s) but I might be wrong. Forgot her number so I can't share which one I mean exactly. Don't mix it up with another heavily tattooed women that had maybe about 10 to 15 piercings in her face and pussy. Anyway, I enjoyed the various scenes and you could tell that I wasn't the only persons that was her favorite. On the other hand I'm not sure that she always came back to dance after sitting with her potential customers. Maybe her price was too high, I don't know and I didn't asked her for it nor was I planning to buy a ladies drink firstly as I wasn't sure I would take somebody with me and secondly I wanted to broaden my GoGo experiences now that I had the opportunity. The mamasan's weren't pushy at all. I seriously did liked this place. A bit on the darkish side, women walking by naked, in bikini or kimono's, not an establishment that tried to push you which is quite important for me. As for the music I'm not sure that the music was loud or not. Let's say that I was too much distracted to share an opinion about this. In all due honesty I don't really give a shit what kind of music they play. If the beat is alright she will dance all night. Drank two Singah beers. If I'm not mistaken then the price was 180 a beer although it could have been 160.
So went on and went directly into Baccara. Now the place was packed (just like CH) with a big amount of girls on stage. In all due honesty, the quality that I have seen there was below average. It might have been better not to have started with CH though. Just the place wasn't really for me with mediocre girls who were dancing if this is what you want to call it. (not that they danced that much better in CH but at least there were some efforts over there). Anyway, I didn't stayed longer than a minute I think. Maybe I should give it another go next time. Who knows my timing was bad but then there were a lot of people who didn't shared the same feeling as I did. Otherwise you don't want to spend your cash.
Tilac was number 3 on my list. Went inside and sat down like a regular. The girls dancing on stage were from a better caliber than Baccara but didn't reached the heels of the girls I have seen in CH. The mamasan was quite a pain in the ass though. Luckily there was punter who was sitting next to me who didn't really mind that she was talking his ears off. One girl somehow drew my attention. It was number 9. Name was something like Phieuw and even though I couldn't remember her name that well, I do remember her nearly perfect ass. Under the fabric I think that she had a nice rack but I can't confirm it and whether that were fake or not. But the ass definitely did the trick. Even though the dancing wasn't all that great she delivered me some twitches in my knob. That was enough for me to let her sit down with me and paid for her lady drink and I took another beer. To keep things short and again I can be a bit wrong with the numbers I believe that the bar fine was 600 or 800 Bath and 3000 for ST. When I told her where I stayed I could tell that she would not have been that keen to walk until there. She mentioned that it would be possible to have ST for 2500 Bath and we play some chess for one hour in a nearby hotel. At least that is what I understood from what she was telling in my ear. Oh well, I paid my bill (two SM Light and a tequila shot. Forgot the exact price) I thanked her for the info and I left with the thing in mind that I wanted some relief and adventure before going to sleep. Apparently the place to be for some this kind of experience is Afterskool.
Opened the sliding doors and I notice that the place is rather small with two girls dancing on stage. You might have the chance to add another girl on it but it might lead to accidents if you ask me. Anyway, I think that the stage only consisted of two poles so who cares. Even though I wasn't expecting to see such a place like this (thought that all gogo bars would have a stage in the middle) so my newbie mind made me realize I was wrong. The place looks more like a small ordinary bar if you ask me with couches facing the bar instead of having chairs. I forgot how many WG's were there mainly due to the fact that most of them were probably outside as inside I had the impression that you would rather freeze to death if you sit with a customer. I think that these might be the opportunity to let a punter touch you in order to warm up a bit if I would have been a WG. Let's say that I was lucky to be greeted by a girl by the name of Apple (Sorry, forgot her number) who asked that it would be allowed to sit next to me. As I said I don't like the pushy ones so I appreciated her tactics and let her sit with me. She ordered a coke while I was having a SM Light and we started to chit chat. Seems that she was working first for 6 months in another place in front owned by the same German owner and now she was working for one month in AS. While I was having an entertaining talk with the lady I was thinking about the dark corner and where that could be. For sure it could not be right next to the far at the far end. It didn't seemed to be dark enough. Mistake. Again. That was exactly the place where they clean pipes. Then there was another mistake made, the girl I was sitting with did not had the schoolgirl uniform on and she told me that she's not giving any BJ's which cost a 1000 Bath by the way. Actually there was a man who had a go surrounded by I believe three ugly ladies in school uniform. My lovely lady also told me that if I want to take her out I will have to pay 2000 Bath as she's, . She said something but from what I've read from you guys it seemed that she's probably a coyote? I was also starting to be afraid to that coca cola was topped with gold so I had a look at the bill but the rate was safe. The truth is that I had a great time talking about nothing with Apple. She was a sweet girl and I felt at ease. Paid for 2 cokes and 2 SM Light and gave her a tip for her company went home and choked the chicken.
Not sure where to go to tonight but probably I will be heading to Suzie Wong at 10 even though I know that the quality of women there isn't the best or we even might have to say terrible. You will most likely hear more about it later. Overall I had a good first night combined with Ying who emptied my ball sack twice. Not the prettiest girl in town but a sweetheart that makes you feel comfortable. Not that anybody have to tell me how I should write and I know that I have a mind like a sieve but let me know in case I have missed something out or where I have been making mistakes.
Syzy. Anytime you would like to meet up for a night in SK, let me know. I tried to send you a PM but for some reason you have turned your PM function off or it has been revoked. I can PM other members so it's not a problem on my end.Thanks not on Bangkok right now, but will return before long (2 or 3 weeks at a guess) and switch PM back on. Right now have to concentrate on work.
Member #4591
03-01-16, 01:26
After I had a go with the popular Ying from Tulip I headed to Mermaid Hotel for a short pit-stop and continued my journey to Soi Cowboy.
I think it was something before 10 PM that I reached CH and off I went in not really knowing what to expect. Even though I have been reading stories about CH I was not expecting that practically all women were naked. Let's say from all the women on stage which was about 12 to 15 ladies there were maybe two that still had 'something' on. As for me being a newbie here I have to say that there were quite some of them who were attractive with one that was very attractive (again, for me I would go for an overall 7,5/8 out of 10 even though the 8 might be a tiny bit too optimistic). A slim short haired tattooed woman with a small handful of tits. Not an inch of fat visible from where I was sitting (sat on a couch on the right side when you come in the place). It might even be that she has a piercing in her nipple (s) but I might be wrong. Forgot her number so I can't share which one I mean exactly. Don't mix it up with another heavily tattooed women that had maybe about 10 to 15 piercings in her face and pussy. Anyway, I enjoyed the various scenes and you could tell that I wasn't the only persons that was her favorite. On the other hand I'm not sure that she always came back to dance after sitting with her potential customers. Maybe her price was too high, I don't know and I didn't asked her for it nor was I planning to buy a ladies drink firstly as I wasn't sure I would take somebody with me and secondly I wanted to broaden my GoGo experiences now that I had the opportunity. The mamasan's weren't pushy at all. I seriously did liked this place. A bit on the darkish side, women walking by naked, in bikini or kimono's, not an establishment that tried to push you which is quite important for me. As for the music I'm not sure that the music was loud or not. Let's say that I was too much distracted to share an opinion about this. In all due honesty I don't really give a shit what kind of music they play. If the beat is alright she will dance all night. Drank two Singah beers. If I'm not mistaken then the price was 180 a beer although it could have been 160.
So went on and went directly into Baccara. Now the place was packed (just like CH) with a big amount of girls on stage. In all due honesty, the quality that I have seen there was below average. It might have been better not to have started with CH though. Just the place wasn't really for me with mediocre girls who were dancing if this is what you want to call it. (not that they danced that much better in CH but at least there were some efforts over there). Anyway, I didn't stayed longer than a minute I think. Maybe I should give it another go next time. Who knows my timing was bad but then there were a lot of people who didn't shared the same feeling as I did. Otherwise you don't want to spend your cash.
Tilac was number 3 on my list. Went inside and sat down like a regular. The girls dancing on stage were from a better caliber than Baccara but didn't reached the heels of the girls I have seen in CH. The mamasan was quite a pain in the ass though. Luckily there was punter who was sitting next to me who didn't really mind that she was talking his ears off. One girl somehow drew my attention. It was number 9. Name was something like Phieuw and even though I couldn't remember her name that well, I do remember her nearly perfect ass. Under the fabric I think that she had a nice rack but I can't confirm it and whether that were fake or not. But the ass definitely did the trick. Even though the dancing wasn't all that great she delivered me some twitches in my knob. That was enough for me to let her sit down with me and paid for her lady drink and I took another beer. To keep things short and again I can be a bit wrong with the numbers I believe that the bar fine was 600 or 800 Bath and 3000 for ST. When I told her where I stayed I could tell that she would not have been that keen to walk until there. She mentioned that it would be possible to have ST for 2500 Bath and we play some chess for one hour in a nearby hotel. At least that is what I understood from what she was telling in my ear. Oh well, I paid my bill (two SM Light and a tequila shot. Forgot the exact price) I thanked her for the info and I left with the thing in mind that I wanted some relief and adventure before going to sleep. Apparently the place to be for some this kind of experience is Afterskool.
Opened the sliding doors and I notice that the place is rather small with two girls dancing on stage. You might have the chance to add another girl on it but it might lead to accidents if you ask me. Anyway, I think that the stage only consisted of two poles so who cares. Even though I wasn't expecting to see such a place like this (thought that all gogo bars would have a stage in the middle) so my newbie mind made me realize I was wrong. The place looks more like a small ordinary bar if you ask me with couches facing the bar instead of having chairs. I forgot how many WG's were there mainly due to the fact that most of them were probably outside as inside I had the impression that you would rather freeze to death if you sit with a customer. I think that these might be the opportunity to let a punter touch you in order to warm up a bit if I would have been a WG. Let's say that I was lucky to be greeted by a girl by the name of Apple (Sorry, forgot her number) who asked that it would be allowed to sit next to me. As I said I don't like the pushy ones so I appreciated her tactics and let her sit with me. She ordered a coke while I was having a SM Light and we started to chit chat. Seems that she was working first for 6 months in another place in front owned by the same German owner and now she was working for one month in AS. While I was having an entertaining talk with the lady I was thinking about the dark corner and where that could be. For sure it could not be right next to the far at the far end. It didn't seemed to be dark enough. Mistake. Again. That was exactly the place where they clean pipes. Then there was another mistake made, the girl I was sitting with did not had the schoolgirl uniform on and she told me that she's not giving any BJ's which cost a 1000 Bath by the way. Actually there was a man who had a go surrounded by I believe three ugly ladies in school uniform. My lovely lady also told me that if I want to take her out I will have to pay 2000 Bath as she's, . She said something but from what I've read from you guys it seemed that she's probably a coyote? I was also starting to be afraid to that coca cola was topped with gold so I had a look at the bill but the rate was safe. The truth is that I had a great time talking about nothing with Apple. She was a sweet girl and I felt at ease. Paid for 2 cokes and 2 SM Light and gave her a tip for her company went home and choked the chicken.
Not sure where to go to tonight but probably I will be heading to Suzie Wong at 10 even though I know that the quality of women there isn't the best or we even might have to say terrible. You will most likely hear more about it later. Overall I had a good first night combined with Ying who emptied my ball sack twice. Not the prettiest girl in town but a sweetheart that makes you feel comfortable. Not that anybody have to tell me how I should write and I know that I have a mind like a sieve but let me know in case I have missed something out or where I have been making mistakes.I'm baffled you decided to call in a night. Mit seems you were afraid. I would have headed back to CH.
Member #4591
03-01-16, 01:30
Syzgies,
Thanks for the reply. Syzgies if I wanted girl who look like Chinese or Korean rather than brown skin Thai look which is better Nana plaza or Soi Cowboy? Could you suggest a club that has light skin or more Chinese or Korean looks?
By the way if you were by accident to take out ladyboy from an agogo club back are they dangerous. Will they hit you or something if you decide not to proceed with them in the hotel. From the youtube video it seems that the ladyboys really do like girls. My friend accidentally weren't to spanky and took a lb by mistake. It wad a bad experience for him I fuess as he refuse to talk in detail about it. I think maybe the lb roughed him up or something.
On another note if I had on eday which is better Nana plaza or sow c9 wboy. Ia 2500 baht a reasonable rate for short time?I can chime in for Syzgs here. Go to Rainbow 4. Plenty of white skin girls there. If you want to go to a club then head to Ratchada. The massage shops have some Karaoke rooms where you can chill with the girls. Lately would be the G clubs like the Pimp for example. Lots of info here and a user blog thread below. Many of the Japanese bars cater to this style of lady. Search online to find them but some are on ekamie.
Wolvenvacht
03-01-16, 08:05
Thanks for the reply. Syzgies if I wanted girl who look like Chinese or Korean rather than brown skin Thai look which is better Nana plaza or Soi Cowboy? Could you suggest a club that has light skin or more Chinese or Korean looks?
"Soi Dead Artists" (Sukhumvit Soi 33) used to have many bars and clubs that have hostesses dressed up as Japanese girls. It is also an area where many Japanese men go Probably the prices are accordingly.
It is not Chinese or Korean, but it comes close I think.
It is a few years ago I went there, in the days when Livingstone Lodge was still active.
I'm baffled you decided to call in a night. Mit seems you were afraid. I would have headed back to CH.Thanks for the reply Dog.
In fact after Afterkool I passed by CH and popped my head inside which was at about 2:15 AM I believe. It seems that the tenderloin was sold out and I'm no in the mood to take a mediocre girl to my room. For me it's just a new adventure without the need to have sex. Of course if the chemistry is perfect with a top looker I wouldn't say no.
Went yesterday to Suzie Wong to watch the show (waste of time), went over to NEP in are&be (lot of fake noses and silicone tits), had a look around in the BJ bars of soi 6, 8 and 10 if I'm not mistaken (unattractive women) and went back to the girl in Afterskool. Apple is sweet, doesn't mean that I would fuck her so again, no sex this time and didn't even bothered to stick my head in CH as I wasn't in the mood. That same day I checked that Sandy (Addict Massage) was available but unfortunately she's on a holiday so I left it for what it is. It doesn't mean that I'm afraid. I just know what I want.
"Soi Dead Artists" (Sukhumvit Soi 33) used to have many bars and clubs that have hostesses dressed up as Japanese girls. It is also an area where many Japanese men go Probably the prices are accordingly.
It is not Chinese or Korean, but it comes close I think.
It is a few years ago I went there, in the days when Livingstone Lodge was still active.Actually initially the Art Bars were not really Chinese, Japanese, or Korean. Back in the 90's they were the hangout of expats who did not like to frequent the GoGo areas. Drink price were always higher (with the exception of the damn good happy hours all the bars had) and the gals were always about 2 k as opposed to 1 k in Cowboy. The girls were really not any better looking. Same Isaan girls, but in dresses. The Asian influx started about '04.
Thanks for the reply Dog.
In fact after Afterkool I passed by CH and popped my head inside which was at about 2:15 AM I believe. It seems that the tenderloin was sold out and I'm no in the mood to take a mediocre girl to my room. For me it's just a new adventure without the need to have sex. Of course if the chemistry is perfect with a top looker I wouldn't say no.
Went yesterday to Suzie Wong to watch the show (waste of time), went over to NEP in are&be (lot of fake noses and silicone tits), had a look around in the BJ bars of soi 6, 8 and 10 if I'm not mistaken (unattractive women) and went back to the girl in Afterskool. Apple is sweet, doesn't mean that I would fuck her so again, no sex this time and didn't even bothered to stick my head in CH as I wasn't in the mood. That same day I checked that Sandy (Addict Massage) was available but unfortunately she's on a holiday so I left it for what it is. It doesn't mean that I'm afraid. I just know what I want.2:15 am is a very weak time for CH. Just dregs left mostly. 11 Pm can be OK some days but unreliable. I prefer to arrive no later than 9 PM max with some girls just arriving late. Even then, line up is very variable. My favorite girls seem to show up rarely, these days. One of them may have had an issue with the new 20 rule.
I find I am better off to check with them on LINE app first.
I also get very fussy with the looks and know what I want. You need to build a collection of girls.so there are plenty of options. Otherwise can go empty handed.
2:15 am is a very weak time for CH. Just dregs left mostly. 11 Pm can be OK some days but unreliable. I prefer to arrive no later than 9 PM max with some girls just arriving late. Even then, line up is very variable. My favorite girls seem to show up rarely, these days. One of them may have had an issue with the new 20 rule.
I find I am better off to check with them on LINE app first.
I also get very fussy with the looks and know what I want. You need to build a collection of girls.so there are plenty of options. Otherwise can go empty handed.As I have been reading a lot of the posts I wasn't expecting to find that much that early in the morning but it was worth a try.
On my last night in BKK I went to CH at around 9 PM but there wasn't anybody that sticked out the bunch. You're right that the line up varies. Unfortunately the one I saw on my first appearance a couple of days before wasn't there either. All looked pretty much similar to my opinion. It's not that I have a specific ideal in my mind. She may be tall or short, big tits or not. For me the whole package has to match. That short haired tattooed vixen met my requirements back then and I would give her a solid 8 for her looks. I only could wish that she would be a bit of a more active dancer but then again if you are on stage for hours I can imagine that it's not easy to keep performing. Still it would be an indicator for me to choose her even more. All others I have seen in CH are below the tattooed one but still attractive enough if I compare it with the few other bars I have checked out. Of course this is according to my taste which is relative. For the newbies amongst us please make sure that when you pick a girl and buy her a lady drink, ask her what she wants and order it for her. I took one lady who ordered a drink which was a shot and something else. I read about it but I didn't thought about it while I had two perky tits in my hands and a tongue my mouth. My bad.
Sorry Syzygies but can you please explain about the 20 rule? Or if you can let me know where to find the info back as I have not read about it.
As for LINE I assume you need to have her ID number already or can you do a search what's around in the neighborhood? I'm not used to utilise LINE but I have noticed that this is the app that people use in BKK.
I have been using Tinder while I was there just to check it out and I had the impression that there are quite some FL available. Have been chatting with some of them but didn't went going out dating with them. Knowing the fact that I was only there for a few days I thought it was not worth the risk also due to the fact that I haven't been reading a lot about it on this forum.
Only having been there for a couple of days it's hard to tell that the success rate is higher with a WG from a massage joint or a gogo bar. At the end my best experience was my last fuck in NEP. Fake tits and fake nose which didn't turned me off but a great chemistry, no pushing and boy she knew how to give a DT. Best hour I've spend (600 bar fine / 350 for the I would say nice room /1500 for sex) during my short stay in BKK.
I thought about trying number 14 in Annie's but never made it. Having this said it gives me a good reason to return if she's still around that is.
As the heading says.
These Thai women seem to have their phones stitched on to their ears! It's very unappealing.
Once the deal is agreed with your lady de jour, does anyone here implement a cell / mobile phone policy? What is it?
Thanks.
Styk.
I have been to Thailand many times during the last decade. Will be visiting again soon. Have a couple of questions. Is the short time price still 1000 THB for freelancers? How is the Beer Garden these days? And what is a good place to pick up freelancers in the evening? Is Bangkok Beat still going strong? How about the disco in the Nana Hotel? Any other info you can provide to this returning veteran would be much appreciated! Cheers!
Crocodilexp
03-03-16, 12:01
Is the short time price still 1000 THB for freelancers? How is the Beer Garden these days? And what is a good place to pick up freelancers in the evening? Is Bangkok Beat still going strong? How about the disco in the Nana Hotel? Cheers!When have you last been? In my opinion, Bangkok freelancer scene has nosedived in both looks, numbers and quality of service since around 2010 or so. Yes, many freelancers will still go for 1000 baht, but they might be reluctant to go far, or stay long. That used to be the no-hassle going rate, now it's a lower bound for most. The better looking ones might ask for 1500-2000 and only accept 1000 if the evening is slow.
Beer Garden still has the usual not-so-gracefully-aged pros, minus a few good ones who moved one (why is it always the good ones who get out of the scene? Disco in the Nana Hotel has changed format so many times that I have no idea what's going on there right now. At one point it was ladyboy-friendly and named "Equality", not sure if that's still on.
Influx of decent looking new girls into the freelancer scene is minimal. I find that girls who looked slightly better than mediocre 5-10 years ago are now the ones that look the best of the meager choice available, despite the extra age, wear & tear.
The semi-pros, girls who have day jobs or study, but supplement earnings by occasional freelancing on Sukhumvit, are almost totally extinct. There are occasional reports of sightings (often by people who can't tell them apart from pros), but they're like the Yeti now.
Along Sukhumvit, you'll still find more freelancers than in most other cities, but don't come with the expectations that it will be anything like the good not-that-old times.
When have you last been? In my opinion, Bangkok freelancer scene has nosedived in both looks, numbers and quality of service since around 2010 or so. Yes, many freelancers will still go for 1000 baht, but they might be reluctant to go far, or stay long. That used to be the no-hassle going rate, now it's a lower bound for most. The better looking ones might ask for 1500-2000 and only accept 1000 if the evening is slow.
Beer Garden still has the usual not-so-gracefully-aged pros, minus a few good ones who moved one (why is it always the good ones who get out of the scene? Disco in the Nana Hotel has changed format so many times that I have no idea what's going on there right now. At one point it was ladyboy-friendly and named "Equality", not sure if that's still on.
Influx of decent looking new girls into the freelancer scene is minimal. I find that girls who looked slightly better than mediocre 5-10 years ago are now the ones that look the best of the meager choice available, despite the extra age, wear & tear.
The semi-pros, girls who have day jobs or study, but supplement earnings by occasional freelancing on Sukhumvit, are almost totally extinct. There are occasional reports of sightings (often by people who can't tell them apart from pros), but they're like the Yeti now.
Along Sukhumvit, you'll still find more freelancers than in most other cities, but don't come with the expectations that it will be anything like the good not-that-old times.Thanks so much for the response, Croc!!
Wow. Things sure have gone south from what you say! Now I am not sure I want to go! The last time I was there was definitely before 2010 (2007-8?)
I wonder what caused the disappearance of the FLs. If you don't mind me asking, what are the options now (yes, I have been reading the reports here. And most seem to be going go-gos). I am not a big fan of nudie bars, even if the quality seems nice. The like illusion of sitting at Beer Garden or where ever, chat with the girls, and take one for an hour or two at leisure.
Thanks again, Croc.
When have you last been? In my opinion, Bangkok freelancer scene has nosedived in both looks, numbers and quality of service since around 2010 or so. Yes, many freelancers will still go for 1000 baht, but they might be reluctant to go far, or stay long. That used to be the no-hassle going rate, now it's a lower bound for most. The better looking ones might ask for 1500-2000 and only accept 1000 if the evening is slow.
Beer Garden still has the usual not-so-gracefully-aged pros, minus a few good ones who moved one (why is it always the good ones who get out of the scene? Disco in the Nana Hotel has changed format so many times that I have no idea what's going on there right now. At one point it was ladyboy-friendly and named "Equality", not sure if that's still on.
Influx of decent looking new girls into the freelancer scene is minimal. I find that girls who looked slightly better than mediocre 5-10 years ago are now the ones that look the best of the meager choice available, despite the extra age, wear & tear.
The semi-pros, girls who have day jobs or study, but supplement earnings by occasional freelancing on Sukhumvit, are almost totally extinct. There are occasional reports of sightings (often by people who can't tell them apart from pros), but they're like the Yeti now.
Along Sukhumvit, you'll still find more freelancers than in most other cities, but don't come with the expectations that it will be anything like the good not-that-old times.Excellent assessment. Yes, the BG is pretty dismal most nights. The gals are very old (as are most of the guys) and a majority need to hang it up. I certainly feel for old P4 P gals, but then again if they were the least bit resourceful they could have snagged a dude when they were younger and hung onto him. But too many worry more about their parasitic families as opposed to taking care of themselves. Either that or they were way too greedy in their younger days and thought they could always get better.
Christian G
03-03-16, 18:30
I wonder what caused the disappearance of the FLs. Social Network like Thaifriendly, Badoo, Tinder, WeChat, BeeTalk, ecc. Girls can open a profile easy, upload some sexy pics (photoshop help) and find alot of customer without waiting for them along the sidewalks of Sukhumvit Road, Soi 4, ecc. Exchange some message and plan to meet customer in hotel or somewhere for dinner or party.
Social Network like Thaifriendly, Badoo, Tinder, WeChat, BeeTalk, ecc. Girls can open a profile easy, upload some sexy pics (photoshop help) and find alot of customer without waiting for them along the sidewalks of Sukhumvit Road, Soi 4, ecc. Exchange some message and plan to meet customer in hotel or somewhere for dinner or party.That is certainly a big part of it. The other is rising salaries in Thailand. Average salary has risen by quite a bit over the past decade. Gals don't have to supplement any more.
Crocodilexp
03-04-16, 04:58
Social Network like Thaifriendly, Badoo, Tinder, WeChat, BeeTalk, ecc. Girls can open a profile easy, upload some sexy pics (photoshop help) and find alot of customer without waiting for them along the sidewalks
People say that all the time, but there's little similarity. None of those networks are an efficient venue for picking up a working girl. They don't allow girls to explicitly identify as hookers, nor customers to search for them explicitly. It takes a fair bit of sifting through, pointless time-wasting chatting, scheduling / arranging and waiting to meet one. At that point, it's as much work / time / hassle as a proper date, so I might well get a proper decent girl for a date (which can occasionally be way more rewarding), rather than going through the same inconvenience and then paying for a half-arssed sex session. Perhaps as you approach 60 the math changes (more tolerance for the hassle since regular under-35 girls are more difficult).
General dating sites in Thailand are 2% hookers, 10% maybe but should I ask, 88% regular girls. I with Thailand had a real online hooker exchange like Hong Kong 141 where you can clearly browse hookers, see prices and locations.
Crocodilexp
03-04-16, 05:12
Wow. Things sure have gone south from what you say! Now I am not sure I want to go! The last time I was there was definitely before 2010 (2007-8?)
There is still a fair number of freelancers on Sukhumvit, you just need to revise your expectations sharply downwards compared to 2008.
As for alternatives, I'd go to Pattaya. The scene there is also not as good as before, but at this point clearly better than Bangkok, and cheaper too.
I wonder what caused the disappearance of the FLs.
I think it was caused by low unemployment, improved wages (minimum wage is now good enough to live on), demographics (birth rate fell sharply in the 1980's and now we're seeing it) and the proliferation of smartphones. Hardcore hookers who are too greedy, stuck in the lifestyle, or too lazy to be doing anything else are still around, but the sweet regular girls dipping in the scene to supplement their meager day job income are a thing of the past.
In the past, a good number of working girls often had in the back of their minds the option of snagging a husband / boyfriend / sponsor, or at least a multiple-day customer, so service was accordingly nicer. Now they just want to finish the job, get the money and go back to get another one.
In the past, a good number of working girls often had in the back of their minds the option of snagging a husband / boyfriend / sponsor, or at least a multiple-day customer, so service was accordingly nicer. Now they just want to finish the job, get the money and go back to get another one.And from reading some other forums that is the case in other countries as well. Not just confined to Thailand. Jeez, what's the hobby going to be like in 15 years when I'm 65? FFS, one of the reasons for choosing Thailand was seeing all the older dudes with hot chicks back in '99. Now older dudes are with gals in their 40's. Urgh! And to top it off many of those gals have very lofty expectations.
Hello all,
Will be my first time mongering outside of my home city in Canada. I'll be in Bangkok for my birthday later in March and am looking for something a bit specific.
I'm looking for a duo (4 hand) oil massage with body slides. I'm not looking for FS, just HJ / BJ from both girls after the massage / slide. In terms of the women, I want bust sizes at least see or bigger. Natural or fake doesn't matter.
I'm willing to pay more for higher quality providers. Can any of you give any suggestions? I don't have a location for my accommodation yet but am very flexible.
Thanks in advance.
Hello all,
Will be my first time mongering outside of my home city in Canada. I'll be in Bangkok for my birthday later in March and am looking for something a bit specific.
I'm looking for a duo (4 hand) oil massage with body slides. I'm not looking for FS, just HJ / BJ from both girls after the massage / slide. In terms of the women, I want bust sizes at least see or bigger. Natural or fake doesn't matter.
I'm willing to pay more for higher quality providers. Can any of you give any suggestions? I don't have a location for my accommodation yet but am very flexible.
Thanks in advance.Happy 18th birthday. Look and research under BKK / massage 4 hands with slide BJ / HJ see+forum.
Pipe Layer99
03-04-16, 20:09
Happy 18th birthday. Look and research under BKK / massage 4 hands with slide BJ / HJ see+forum.Good one! LMAO. 18th be-day!
I wonder what caused the disappearance of the FLs.Social media. Why sit in a bar for hours or walk the streets when you can sit at home or at an air conditioned Starbucks and respond to emails. Oh and BTW charge double or more what a SW does while your at it.
SL.
BigRig2007
03-04-16, 21:49
Hey guys,
Final question for this forum before I depart next week for my first Thailand / Singapore trip. I am very excited. My question is: can I get the generic Viagra (sideagra) at any Bangkok Rx? I'm, not worried about price so I don't need to know how much, just if I can buy them without a Rx. Thanks for all your reviews and advice.
Hey guys,
Final question for this forum before I depart next week for my first Thailand / Singapore trip. I am very excited. My question is: can I get the generic Viagra (sideagra) at any Bangkok Rx? I'm, not worried about price so I don't need to know how much, just if I can buy them without a Rx. Thanks for all your reviews and advice.The answer to your question is "yes" and "no. " Many of the "first-tier" pharmacies require a prescription and won't budge on this. But what might be called "second-tier" pharmacies will have generic viagra (sildenafil) available without a prescription and possibly the brand-name stuff.
Others here should be able to direct you to specific pharmacies; unless things have changed recently there should be a lot of them that offer this without a prescription in the Sukhumvit area.
Uncle Volodya
03-05-16, 00:47
Hey guys,
Final question for this forum before I depart next week for my first Thailand / Singapore trip. I am very excited. My question is: can I get the generic Viagra (sideagra) at any Bangkok Rx? I'm, not worried about price so I don't need to know how much, just if I can buy them without a Rx. Thanks for all your reviews and advice.Yes you can. You can also get the original too (imported from Australia I think).
The answer to your question is "yes" and "no. " Many of the "first-tier" pharmacies require a prescription and won't budge on this. But what might be called "second-tier" pharmacies will have generic viagra (sildenafil) available without a prescription and possibly the brand-name stuff.
Others here should be able to direct you to specific pharmacies; unless things have changed recently there should be a lot of them that offer this without a prescription in the Sukhumvit area.Thai generic available at 2nd pharmacy on Sukhumvit heading from petrol station Soi4 towards Soi 2. Price should be around 200 to 300 Baht for pack of 4 100 MG tablets.
Original Viagra can be bought too, but what is the point. Far too expensive. Cheap original genuine Viagra elsewhere are not really genuine at all, so don't kid yourself.
Lots of other stuff available too.
Thai generic available at 2nd pharmacy on Sukhumvit heading from petrol station Soi4 towards Soi 2. Price should be around 200 to 300 Baht for pack of 4 100 MG tablets.
Original Viagra can be bought too, but what is the point. Far too expensive. Cheap original genuine Viagra elsewhere are not really genuine at all, so don't kid yourself.
Lots of other stuff available too.If you are staying out of the main Farang tourist area you can get the Thai generic, Sidegra, for a very good price. Usually 100 Baht for 4 50's or 150 Baht for 4 100's. Consistent and good.
If you are staying out of the main Farang tourist area you can get the Thai generic, Sidegra, for a very good price. Usually 100 Baht for 4 50's or 150 Baht for 4 100's. Consistent and good.Sidegra official price, 100 bahts for 4 x50 MG, and 180 bahts for 4 x100 MG. In Sukumvit in Pattaya in Patong they all try to sell 30-50 above the real price. If they do, tell them the real price, or you can buy in local areas at official price.
Wolvenvacht
03-05-16, 08:58
I with Thailand had a real online hooker exchange like Hong Kong 141 where you can clearly browse hookers, see prices and locations.Why would Thailand need that? It is already so easy to get a P4P-date and besides, although prostitution is not illegal in Thailand, advertising it too openly (i.e. "solliciting") might run afoul of the law.
Wolvenvacht
03-05-16, 09:03
Yes you can. You can also get the original too (imported from Australia I think).I once bought Vitamin "V" in a regular pharmacy in Bangkok and it was imported from Austria. I found that very funny.
Why would Thailand need that? It is already so easy to get a P4P-date and besides, although prostitution is not illegal in Thailand, advertising it too openly (i.e. "solliciting") might run afoul of the law.One wonders if Thailand will take the cue from Indonesia and start closing P4 P venues. Personally I think this a real possibility under the current regime. I would not be surprised if things were far different a few years from now.
One wonders if Thailand will take the cue from Indonesia and start closing P4 P venues. Personally I think this a real possibility under the current regime. I would not be surprised if things were far different a few years from now.That would be a bit ironic because I remember when Thaksin took power it seemed he wanted to close things down, at least to some extent. Now that the army is in charge (I assume they still basically are although I don't follow Thai politics that closely), there have been some indications they too may not be happy about the P4 P places.
But Indonesia is very different in that it is largely a Muslim country, and the anti-prostitution moves seem to be largely coming from that direction. One of the other sexual issues that is being discussed in Indonesia is whether gays should be generally shunned and prohibited from participating in daily life. The "liberal" position advocated, for example by their Minister of Religious Affairs, is gays should only be considered mentally ill and rather than being entirely shunned should be forced to be cured through psychotherapy. Not exactly the type of debate you would hear from governmental officials in Thailand.
So while it is possible Thailand might have clampdowns in the future, the analogy to Indonesia likely doesn't hold. In Indonesia the clampdowns have at their core Islamic thought (I. E. , the serious clampdowns, not the temporary ones designed to show muscle so as to receive more bribes); in Thailand I suspect it is more a result of globalization and the "we have to look respectable to other countries" mentality (although I'm sure one can think of other reasons and mine might not be the correct ones).
Crocodilexp
03-05-16, 13:42
And from reading some other forums that is the case in other countries as well. Not just confined to Thailand. Jeez, what's the hobby going to be like in 15 years when I'm 65? FFS, one of the reasons for choosing Thailand was seeing all the older dudes with hot chicks back in '99. Now older dudes are with gals in their 40's. Urgh! And to top it off many of those gals have very lofty expectations.I'm thinking the exact same thing. Back in the day, got a warm and fuzzy feeling whenever I would see an old crumbling codger with a relatively hot girl on his arm: "one day, that will be me! Seeing this is exceedingly rare these days in Thailand, though I've seen a few such couples in Jakarta last year (a rather homely old white guy with a bombshell Indonesian).
The future of PFP options seems bleak now. I do wonder, historically, how a good PFP scenes gets started, what are the key elements? The declines are easy to observe, but rises, not as much. Parts of Eastern Europe were good after the fall of communism, though it didn't last long, under 10 years in most places. Thailand was good since the 1970's, at least for westerners. Other parts of Asia were good for shorter periods. Is the decline in PFP irreversible, or is there a chance of a new hotspot popping up? I once believed Burma could be the next spot, but after visiting it doesn't feel likely.
Wolvenvacht
03-05-16, 14:31
One wonders if Thailand will take the cue from Indonesia and start closing P4 P venues. Personally I think this a real possibility under the current regime. I would not be surprised if things were far different a few years from now.I don' think so at all.
Prostitution is so much an integral part of the Thai culture that it would take a few generations to change that.
Don't forget that the "farang" part of their sex-industry is such a small part of it that it hardly registers on the Thai's radar. Besides the whole sex-industry brings in so much money for so many people on all levels of the society that stopping it will make the military government very unpopular and that is the last thing they want.
Of course one can expect the regular token deference to "clean up" initiatives, but it will not go beyond closing a bar, arranging a press conference and carrying on as usual.
Wolvenvacht
03-05-16, 14:38
I'm thinking the exact same thing. Back in the day, got a warm and fuzzy feeling whenever I would see an old crumbling codger with a relatively hot girl on his arm: "one day, that will be me! Seeing this is exceedingly rare these days in Thailand, though I've seen a few such couples in Jakarta last year (a rather homely old white guy with a bombshell Indonesian).
I think the crumbling old dodgers of now have wisened up and found out they are much better served and taking care of by middle aged (say around 40 years old) Thai women than by hot young spinners who hardly know how to cook a decent meal, do laundry, iron your shirt and do your housekeeping. Besides that, these more mature women are still good looking and enjoy a romp in the hay as much as you do.
SimpleGuy85
03-05-16, 17:13
Dear members,
Hope everyone is doing well.
I am going to be placed in Bangkok for 3 days starting tomorrow. I will be put up near Ratchaprarop road near Ratchathewi. I am looking for FS massage parlors in the area with a good fish bowl. I implore the seniors to kindly guide me through private messages. I want to know which MPs are good, which ladies to choose and what's the decent rate to offer as I would not want to offer to low and disrespect their service or pay more and disturb the market rates. Any guidance would be much appreciated and reciprocated if anyone wishes to know about mongering in Delhi or Mumbai.
Regards.
PeeTeePeet
03-05-16, 21:03
Went to Mango and took Anna yesterday. She has removed her braces and now looks fitter and more hard body.
Service as usual. Excellent and predictable.
Overall the cast is in decline, but one or two other decent looking ones.
Business is down and most of them were just sitting around.
Makes me wonder if they get more than 10-15 customers per day, all day.
Pete
I don' think so at all.
Prostitution is so much an integral part of the Thai culture that it would take a few generations to change that.
Don't forget that the "farang" part of their sex-industry is such a small part of it that it hardly registers on the Thai's radar. Besides the whole sex-industry brings in so much money for so many people on all levels of the society that stopping it will make the military government very unpopular and that is the last thing they want.
Of course one can expect the regular token deference to "clean up" initiatives, but it will not go beyond closing a bar, arranging a press conference and carrying on as usual.I used to share your sentiment, but that has changed over the past year. The current regime has a very moralistic bend to it and cracking down would go along with their theme. Hell, they are looking to raise the alcohol tax yet again, not to raise revenue but to discourage drinking. I hope I am wrong, but I fear that things will be changing.
When mentioning Indonesia the scene there is almost completely local guys. No one ever thought that Korea would really crack down, but they did. No one ever thought that China would crack down, but now Chongping is but a memory.
I used to share your sentiment, but that has changed over the past year. The current regime has a very moralistic bend to it and cracking down would go along with their theme. Hell, they are looking to raise the alcohol tax yet again, not to raise revenue but to discourage drinking. I hope I am wrong, but I fear that things will be changing.
When mentioning Indonesia the scene there is almost completely local guys. No one ever thought that Korea would really crack down, but they did. No one ever thought that China would crack down, but now Chongping is but a memory.To follow comments on Thailand, Indonesia and China, Mongolia has introduced a complete ban on alcohol sales in stores and restaurants on the 1st day of every month; ostensibly, I believe, to try to encourage abstinence on at least 1 day each month.
PapaSchlumpf
03-06-16, 12:01
Hell, they are looking to raise the alcohol tax yet again, not to raise revenue but to discourage drinking. I hope I am wrong, but I fear that things will be changing.Even in 7/11 you can't buy alcohol after 12 pm.
Wolvenvacht
03-06-16, 13:34
To follow comments on Thailand, Indonesia and China, Mongolia has introduced a complete ban on alcohol sales in stores and restaurants on the 1st day of every month; ostensibly, I believe, to try to encourage abstinence on at least 1 day each month.And no doubt the sale of alcohol on the last day of the month has tripled.
Governments never learn. The USA banned the production and sale of all alcohol in the 1920's and that only caused the emergence of a huge black market for alcohol and a boost to organized crime.
Arguably it caused an increase of consumption of hard alcohol such as spirits and less of light alcohols such as beers.
MusicalToM
03-06-16, 20:12
I believe some of you will be able to answer me with this query of mine.
I'll be travelling to LOS coming weekend. Apart from mongering activities I've reserved 1-2 days for shopping & sight seeing as well. A friend of mine has asked to buy an Action camera like GoPro or SJCAM from Thailand. I'm also planning to get one, but I've no clue where can I get it. I know it will be available in BKK. I'd be thankful if somebody can help me out with locations / shops from where I can get this item for the best price.
And to this help I can give a beer party if we meet.
And no doubt the sale of alcohol on the last day of the month has tripled.
Governments never learn. The USA banned the production and sale of all alcohol in the 1920's and that only caused the emergence of a huge black market for alcohol and a boost to organized crime.
Arguably it caused an increase of consumption of hard alcohol such as spirits and less of light alcohols such as beers.Yes, and it almost killed the wine industry, too. Thank God for the religious exemption and the Catholic Church, who uses wine in their sacraments. It's a fascinating story how small wineries held on by their fingernails until that nitwit law was repealed. To this day you can still buy Old Vine Zinfandel made from some of those surviving vines.
I don' think so at all.
Prostitution is so much an integral part of the Thai culture that it would take a few generations to change that.
Don't forget that the "farang" part of their sex-industry is such a small part of it that it hardly registers on the Thai's radar. Besides the whole sex-industry brings in so much money for so many people on all levels of the society that stopping it will make the military government very unpopular and that is the last thing they want.
Of course one can expect the regular token deference to "clean up" initiatives, but it will not go beyond closing a bar, arranging a press conference and carrying on as usual.Yes, it's an integral part of society, at least "Thai-style" prostitution. However, the "Farang-style," I have long maintained, is an anachronism left over from the Vietnam war. Yes, it's a small part overall, but it's a very, very visible part. And, IMHO, an easy target.
There is no one thing that will kill off the Farang-style P4 P, but the writing's on the wall. Low unemployment, rising wages, bad attitudes, a change in the tourist demographic, all have been repeatedly discussed. Rising land values are making a huge dent in the viability of said venues. In the West, a place like Soi Cowboy would have been zoned (or eminent domain-ed) out of existence long ago.
But let's not overlook the religious aspect, especially concerning totalitarian regimes. Such regimes are extremely Puritanical. Look all over SEA for examples. A while back I showed the GF a video some clown had shot while wandering around lower Suk. He filmed all the girls propositioning him outside of some venue like Dr. BJ, and eventually went inside, picked a lady, etc. The GF was aghast. Not at the thought of what they were getting up to behind closed doors, but the brazenness of it all. "How can this happen in a Buddhist country?" So, we shouldn't overlook the effect of a totalitarian regime combined with a bit of religious zealotry. The Thais may not be Muslims, but they are every bit as proud of Buddha as the Muslims are of Mohammed.
No, as long as there are men and women there will be prostitution. But I will be very surprised if the scene as it is today is around in 5 years. And, frankly, I wouldn't miss it. I prefer doing P4 P the way locals do it, regardless of the country. I have never liked seeing some doddering fat fool dragging an obvious prostitute around town, acting proud. At home the guy wouldn't be caught dead taking some hooker with a 6th grade education around town and introducing her to his friends and business acquaintances. Neither would any respectable Thai.
I believe some of you will be able to answer me with this query of mine.
I'll be travelling to LOS coming weekend. Apart from mongering activities I've reserved 1-2 days for shopping & sight seeing as well. A friend of mine has asked to buy an Action camera like GoPro or SJCAM from Thailand. I'm also planning to get one, but I've no clue where can I get it. I know it will be available in BKK. I'd be thankful if somebody can help me out with locations / shops from where I can get this item for the best price.
And to this help I can give a beer party if we meet.I'm not sure what your home country is, and you may already know this, but the prices in Thailand for consumer electronics will not be overly attractive. For example, I find prices are somewhat lower in the US than in Thailand, particularly if one does comparison internet shopping. But if you have already taken this into account, you might try Pantip Plaza, or maybe MBK. Others here might add to these suggestions.
I believe some of you will be able to answer me with this query of mine.
I'll be travelling to LOS coming weekend. Apart from mongering activities I've reserved 1-2 days for shopping & sight seeing as well. A friend of mine has asked to buy an Action camera like GoPro or SJCAM from Thailand. I'm also planning to get one, but I've no clue where can I get it. I know it will be available in BKK. I'd be thankful if somebody can help me out with locations / shops from where I can get this item for the best price.
And to this help I can give a beer party if we meet.I would go to MBK to shop for something like that. Check the 4th and 5th floors. I don't know how the prices compare with the internet on those particular items but when I shop for smartphones snd tablets a moderate amount of negotiation at an MBK shop will lop off a good 20-30% from the posted full retail prices found in PowerBuy, PowerMall or the brand label's own store such as Samsung, LG or whatever. Just confirm that you are negotiating for an original, new item not a copy or used one. The fact that you are looking to buy 2 gives you another advantage for a negotiated price reduction.
Be prepared to walk away if the discount offered is only 20%,. Every tentative step away is likely good for an additional 2-3% lopped off while they try to reel you back to the display case.
Again, I have never shopped for the items you mentioned so I suppose it is possible they are among the few items that are tightly price protected and there is little or no wiggle room for negotiation. Don't know. But there is plenty of wiggle room off of widely posted and accepted retail prices for most other items in MBK. Generally to the tune of 20-30% discount.
Lord Farquard
03-07-16, 10:48
I would go to MBK to shop for something like that. Check the 4th and 5th floors. I don't know how the prices compare with the internet on those particular items but when I shop for smartphones snd tablets a moderate amount of negotiation at an MBK shop will lop off a good 20-30% from the posted full retail prices found in PowerBuy, PowerMall or the brand label's own store such as Samsung, LG or whatever. Just confirm that you are negotiating for an original, new item not a copy or used one. The fact that you are looking to buy 2 gives you another advantage for a negotiated price reduction.
.Might also try Pantip or Fortune mall. I saw some gopro cameras there, and some other brands. There are many shops at pantip that sell cameras.
Might also try Pantip or Fortune mall. I saw some gopro cameras there, and some other brands. There are many shops at pantip that sell cameras.Yes, I would add Fortune Mall to my earlier recommendation of Pantip and maybe MBK. From among Pantip and MBK I would say Pantip is better for this, but I cannot rank order Fortune Mall because of the three it is the one I haven't shopped at. Indeed, I usually go to Pantip for camera supplies if I run short while in Bangkok (e.g., camera batteries and so forth, which I sometimes forget to pack); there are indeed quite a few camera shops as well as electronics shops that carry cameras at Pantip..
Depending on where one is from Pantip and MBK may also be worth seeing as part of Bangkok sightseeing as they are quite interesting as they are a bit different from shopping centers one might see at home.
MusicalToM
03-07-16, 20:37
Thanks all for the suggested comments. I've prioritized to check first with Pantip then MBK. Unable to locate "Fortune Mall" in Google maps, is it near to Pantip plaza?
Apart from this I checked "Lazada Thailand" is also offering the same product with a decent discount. I was wondering if anybody has used this website to buy anything & tried getting the delivery at one's Hotel?
Thanks all for the suggested comments. I've prioritized to check first with Pantip then MBK. Unable to locate "Fortune Mall" in Google maps, is it near to Pantip plaza?
Apart from this I checked "Lazada Thailand" is also offering the same product with a decent discount. I was wondering if anybody has used this website to buy anything & tried getting the delivery at one's Hotel?Fortune Town is on Ratchada. Take the MRT and get off at Praram 9.
Robert Long
03-07-16, 23:05
I believe some of you will be able to answer me with this query of mine.
I'll be travelling to LOS coming weekend. Apart from mongering activities I've reserved 1-2 days for shopping & sight seeing as well. A friend of mine has asked to buy an Action camera like GoPro or SJCAM from Thailand. I'm also planning to get one, but I've no clue where can I get it. I know it will be available in BKK. I'd be thankful if somebody can help me out with locations / shops from where I can get this item for the best price.
And to this help I can give a beer party if we meet.I bought a SS S6 Edge for my employee in Bali. She had problems and when she went to SS in Bali they told her she would have to take in back to Thailand to honor the warrantee. I live in Hawaii and so I called SS America and they confirmed that wherever you buy a SS product you must return to that country for repair work.
This is interesting as the phone was made in Viet Nam. But this is a Sam Sung policy.
You might want to have your friend check with the company in your country on repair and warrantee issues.
RL.
MichaelSamuel
03-08-16, 01:32
GoPro's are fairly price fixed so I would be surprised if you can do much better than regular retail, but always worth a shot. One other note for those with gopros. I had my camera out of its housing in the safe in January and went to pull something out and it fell maybe 3 ft and landed right on the lense and cracked to pieces. If you take a good look you can see the dome of the lense extends beyond the rubber surrounding it so it's really susceptible to this type of break. Ordered a replacement lens on the internet but haven't tried to replace it yet. If that doesn't work is going to be a $400 mistake and gopro doesn't repair them at all. If you are US based costco has the 3+ for a deal right now.
I believe some of you will be able to answer me with this query of mine.
I'll be travelling to LOS coming weekend. Apart from mongering activities I've reserved 1-2 days for shopping & sight seeing as well. A friend of mine has asked to buy an Action camera like GoPro or SJCAM from Thailand. I'm also planning to get one, but I've no clue where can I get it. I know it will be available in BKK. I'd be thankful if somebody can help me out with locations / shops from where I can get this item for the best price.
And to this help I can give a beer party if we meet.
SuperMarckus
03-08-16, 17:24
Have booked my tricker for late summer, so was a bit unnerved to read this report in Time magazine about random police extortion in Bangkok and (I presume) elsewhere.
The report's a year old now, so I wondered. Is it still going on? And was it ever really going on that much?
I guess it ties in with the discussion below about how martial law / the new more puritanical regime is changing the game.
Crocodilexp
03-09-16, 07:11
Have booked my tricker for late summer, so was a bit unnerved to read this report in Time magazine about random police extortion in Bangkok and (I presume) elsewhere.
Thai police will very, very rarely stop and try to extort you just for walking in the street, though that has been known to happen on the stretch of Sukhumvit road between Asoke and Phrom Phong.
If you're riding a motorbike, they might stop you, and fine you for whatever alleged violation you committed, perhaps extracting a bribe instead of issuing a ticket. If you buy drugs, they might stop you, having been informed by the guy that just sold them. Obviously, in that case, you'd be in a real pickle.
For people doing certain types of business, police can be an expensive and unpredictable hassle, but a normal tourist / monger is unlikely to interact with them much (and is well advised not to seek out interaction).
Thailand is not like the Philippines where they're actively working to scam you, even if you've done absolutely nothing wrong (like placing bullets in your bag at the airport). If you mind your own business and don't get into any conflicts with the locals, police trouble is unlikely.
Have booked my tricker for late summer, so was a bit unnerved to read this report in Time magazine about random police extortion in Bangkok and (I presume) elsewhere.
The report's a year old now, so I wondered. Is it still going on? And was it ever really going on that much?
I guess it ties in with the discussion below about how martial law / the new more puritanical regime is changing the game.I have visited Thailand maybe thirty times, perhaps more, and never interacted with a policeman. I did read a while back they were stopping some people for drug testing, and that worried me, but I myself haven't seen any of this and I have been in Bangkok maybe three or four times in the last twelve months, for a total of around 50 to 75 days..
If anyone here has first-hand knowledge of such things, perhaps they would care to comment. But until I see some concrete information to suggest this sort of thing is happening these days on anything other than a super-isolated basis, I am not going to worry about it. And I would suggest it shouldn't be something that should make one hesitant to visit Thailand.
Wolvenvacht
03-09-16, 08:16
Thai police will very, very rarely stop and try to extort you just for walking in the street, though that has been known to happen on the stretch of Sukhumvit road between Asoke and Phrom Phong.
If I remember well that wasn't even Police. Some kind of civil servants that were "looking after" cleanliness of the area and started handing out fines to random tourists for littering. Given that Thai rarely if ever take the effort of putting their garbage in a bin (if there is a garbage bin available in the neigbourhood at all!) it seemed rather strange that foreigners where singled out for these fines.
These "police" did not seem to approach Thai, as the Thai seemed to know somehow that these people did not have the authority to levy fines at all.
That is probably also the reason (real) Police don't bother most of the tourists as the Police would actually struggle with the language barrier to explain to the tourist why they are being fined! Far easier to extort some quick money from a fellow Thai (who seem to accept this as a fact of life) rather than laborously try to have a tourist cough up some money. The above mentioned "litter patrol" was much better organised and had leaflets printed in English (all looking very official) explaining why the tourists were being fined. It seems that this practice has now come to an end.
I guess it ties in with the discussion below about how martial law / the new more puritanical regime is changing the game.
No, it had nothing to do with the Army. If anything the Army seems to stay far away from tourists. Somehow they understand that military regimes are ill respected in "Western" countries and they do not want to give the "West" any reasons to complain.
I was actually in Bangkok during the height of the military take-over and the taxi I was in was stopped once or twice at a roadblock. As soon as the Army saw that a farang was using the taxi, we were waived through quickly without even having to show any ID.
Bless me ISG for I have sinned. It's been several weeks since my last confession (report) and these are my sins:
I decided to separate my escapades into 4 separate reports for brevity and easier reading.
When I last wrote a report in Mid January, I had discussed a romp with a girl from Bangkok Beat who previously claimed to be in the diamond cutting business but had lost some of her sight, at least temporarily, and has resorted to P4P as a consequence. Whatever! I left a few days after hooking up with her as I had a one month trip to Chiang Mai and Myanmar scheduled. Both locations were a disaster for mongering purposes though from a strictly touristic point of view, they were entertaining locales.
However, during my trip I maintained contact with little Ms. Diamond cutter and I invited her to my apartment upon my return. She came over, spent Saturday night with me, and overall it was a positive repeat from the first time. She stayed to early afternoon but insisted on taxi fare upon departing in addition to her agreed payment of 2 k bt. which was unlike the first time when the subject never came up as she lives one metro stop away, I told her no and she got pissed off. I also found it disconcerting the implausible stories she kept telling me about her personal life.
Her poutiness and her overall behavioral patterns turned me off so decided not to see her again though I responded to a few of her lame texts during the week. On Friday night, I went to Bangkok Beat where I spotted a girl who I had flirted with in the past. In no time, we were dirty dancing moving to the ultimate conclusion when I spotted Ms. Diamond cutter entering the club. She went to another section of the club and I thought nothing more about it until she popped up next to me, grabbed my new girl by the arm, shouted some Thai to her, and then proceeded to hit me in the temple with a half open fist. This was done in front of several other girls in addition to my friend.
The chemistry between myself and my potential new partner seemed to drain away like sand through an hourglass though the girl invited me outside for a chat. It was at this point, I realized she could barely speak English making it rather difficult to defend myself. Nevertheless, I was attempting to rouse a defence when out struts Ms. Diamond cutter with her posse. Naturally, she could not resist blasting my friend again with more Thai babble before striking me on the arm and storming into the night.
Ms. Diamond, BTW, also claimed to me that she had a Norwegian BF who bought her a condo on Soi 22 and a car. She also said she was mad at him about something or other, hence the reason she went wit me the first time. I have no idea whether even one iota of what she told me is true, which was part of the reason that I tossed her back.
Even though that night ended poorly, things did pick up starting the following night.
What is my penance?
I debated whether I should return to Bangkok Beat after the incident written about in my prior report but finally decided to get back on that horse immediately and reclaim my territory, so to speak.
I strolled into Bangkok Beat about 10:30 pm, ordered a saspirilla and waited to see what the pickings were that night. As it turned out, the two girls discussed in the prior report did not make an appearance. However, there were at least three girls to my liking: a wafer thin Chinese looking girl in a tight red short dress, a girl with a classic Thai face and a cute pageboy cut, and a tall very white skinned girl directly behind me. Being the lazy type, I exchanged glances with the tall girl and was invited over. First, I listened to her voice to determine female gender due to her height and was reassured that her timbre was female. We ended up leaving together around 2 am though first stopped for some food and did not arrive at my apartment until 3 am. At this point, no money had been discussed and in fact, I was not even certain that she intended to go with me after we ate. Her English was poor and in fact almost non existent.
But she did come to my apartment. She took a shower and returned to the couch with a towel whereupon I unwrapped my present and proceeded with some spirited DATY on this long legged beauty. I should mention something else at this juncture. During the day, I ingested a packet of Kamagra with the intent on visiting a MP, which for various reasons never took place. Before coming home with with my friend, I also popped some Seagra (Thai viagra) so I was really primed for this excursion.
Anyway, Viagra, or its knockoffs, usually give me some retardant when coming but I was so excited with her twisting and moaning that after a few strokes inside her, I popped off (Japanese style) on her stomach. After that, things got pretty wild! About twenty minutes later, we were laying on the couch when I started DATY again. This time, with my encoragement, she straddled my face where I proceeded to dine exclusively for several minutes culminating in her squirting all over my face. It happened all of a sudden with no warning on her part.
We cleaned up and proceed to the bedroom. In the next twelve hours or so, I had two more orgasms and one dry run. As I am 67, this was world record for yours truly. Finally, in mid afternoon the following day, she got dressed to leave, or so I thought. I was accompanying her to the lobby and outside to the street when I realized she was not leaving but getting something to eat. KFC, as it turned out. At this point, I brought up the delicate question about compensation. She mumbled something to me that I failed to understand. Long story short, she stayed to 11 am the following day and I gave her taxi fare when she left. Never asked for money.
Lest some members think all my experiences are good or overally dramatic, I should add one other story.
Several days ago, I was in Bangkok Beat and spotted a good looking girl off in the distance who was occupied with another punter. I finally got her attention and ultimately gave her my number as she passed to the bathroom. She called me a few days later and we met at BB before she came over to my apartment. But I quickly realized, it was a mistake to invite her as she wanted our agreed amount up front. I said no, invited her to leave, and she quickly backed down (editors note: they always do). There was some disagreement about length of time too but then she agreed to stay until 5 am. Not the best situation but I went along. She turned out to be abysmal in the sack and as flat chested as any girl I ever bedded, and then wanted to play with her phone the rest of the time until 5 am. I was so annoyed with her that I lost interest and almost asked her to leave since I had no intention of attempting to bang her again.
She left at 5 am and I gave her the 2 k bt but crossed her off my list.
Unbelievablely, I got a text from her yesterday asking me if I wanted company.
Completely clueless. Yeah right!
Yes, it's an integral part of society, at least "Thai-style" prostitution. However, the "Farang-style," I have long maintained, is an anachronism left over from the Vietnam war. Yes, it's a small part overall, but it's a very, very visible part. And, IMHO, an easy target.
There is no one thing that will kill off the Farang-style P4 P, but the writing's on the wall. Low unemployment, rising wages, bad attitudes, a change in the tourist demographic, all have been repeatedly discussed. Rising land values are making a huge dent in the viability of said venues. In the West, a place like Soi Cowboy would have been zoned (or eminent domain-ed) out of existence long ago.
But let's not overlook the religious aspect, especially concerning totalitarian regimes. Such regimes are extremely Puritanical. Look all over SEA for examples. A while back I showed the GF a video some clown had shot while wandering around lower Suk. He filmed all the girls propositioning him outside of some venue like Dr. BJ, and eventually went inside, picked a lady, etc. The GF was aghast. Not at the thought of what they were getting up to behind closed doors, but the brazenness of it all. "How can this happen in a Buddhist country?" So, we shouldn't overlook the effect of a totalitarian regime combined with a bit of religious zealotry. The Thais may not be Muslims, but they are every bit as proud of Buddha as the Muslims are of Mohammed.
No, as long as there are men and women there will be prostitution. But I will be very surprised if the scene as it is today is around in 5 years. And, frankly, I wouldn't miss it. I prefer doing P4 P the way locals do it, regardless of the country. I have never liked seeing some doddering fat fool dragging an obvious prostitute around town, acting proud. At home the guy wouldn't be caught dead taking some hooker with a 6th grade education around town and introducing her to his friends and business acquaintances. Neither would any respectable Thai.We are on the same page. Agree with all you said. In 5 years the scene will be very different. I too prefer discretion.
Bless me ISG for I have sinned. It's been several weeks since my last confession (report) and these are my sins:
I decided to separate my escapades into 4 separate reports for brevity and easier reading.
When I last wrote a report in Mid January, I had discussed a romp with a girl from Bangkok Beat who previously claimed to be in the diamond cutting business but had lost some of her sight, at least temporarily, and has resorted to P4P as a consequence. Whatever! I left a few days after hooking up with her as I had a one month trip to Chiang Mai and Myanmar scheduled. Both locations were a disaster for mongering purposes though from a strictly touristic point of view, they were entertaining locales.
However, during my trip I maintained contact with little Ms. Diamond cutter and I invited her to my apartment upon my return. She came over, spent Saturday night with me, and overall it was a positive repeat from the first time. She stayed to early afternoon but insisted on taxi fare upon departing in addition to her agreed payment of 2 k bt. which was unlike the first time when the subject never came up as she lives one metro stop away, I told her no and she got pissed off. I also found it disconcerting the implausible stories she kept telling me about her personal life.Just get on your knees and pray you find some more Thai girls who are pissed off with their Norwegian boyfriends. Maybe even ask someone to put in an ad for you in Thai with such a title in the ad?
As I noted, I found a bit of a freebie but as we know rarely is anything for free. My new girl, the squirter, started burning up my phone all week with texts and early morning phone calls after out first encounter. I finally decided to tell her that I had a girlfriend (a lie) and could not see her again. As luck would have it, I met a girl a few nights earlier at BB and we decided to meet again there last Friday. The 'squirter' was there and I was concerned about a negative response from her but instead she gently tapped me on my forearm as she walked by.
I was not invested at all with my date that evening as she was just an acquaintance and decided to call the squirter the following day. She readily agreed to a lunch date at Terminal 21 despite the fact I had 'broken up' with her a day before. After lunch, she came back to my apartment at her insistence and we had a nice leisurely mid day tryst. However with her, I always had to set boundaries so sent her packing several hours later as I had other plans for the evening. Once again no money was requested and think she would have not accepted any, if offered. Still, I received multiple texts and calls from her during this week though today the phone has gone strangely silent. She told me Yesterday she was not feeling well so really not sure what is going on. Actually, now I am but concerned about her health as she has not responded to me.
I had one other nice experience between all this activity. Last Wednesday, I went to BB just to hang out and not with any horizontal action in mind. Famous last words: Nevertheless, I began flirting with a short girl with a great rack. We started dancing and in no time she was expressing interest in going with me. As usual, I offered 2k bt long time. She countered with 2500 short time and I said no. She quickly reverted and accepted my offer and said she would stay to the morning.
When she first arrived at the apartment, I was half expecting a dud as she was rather demure in the taxi but instead after her shower, she straddled me on the couch and it was game on including some enthusiastic DATY on my part. Her totally shaved pussy certainly added to the thrill. We had sex twice and then cuddled for an hour or so before she went down and gave me perhaps the best head I have experienced in Thailand. Just an observation, but giving good head does not seem to be a Thai speciality outside the pros in the MP's. When I was ready to blow, she mounted me and screwed the bejesus out of me.
I then went to the shower and when I returned to the bedroom she was putting on her clothes. Technically it was before her agreed departure time but had no problems giving her an early release. She did her job and then some. Wow what a night!
BigRig2007
03-09-16, 20:31
Well, off on my first trip tomorrow. An overnight in Manila. Hopefully, I will have an experience or two to contribute reports from Manila. Then two nights in Bangkok, two in Pattaya, two in Phuket, a weekend in Singapore and a couple more nights in Bangkok. I look forward to actually posting reviews and reports for you all. Thanks again for all the advice and tips.
Lord Farquard
03-09-16, 22:11
Thanks all for the suggested comments. I've prioritized to check first with Pantip then MBK. Unable to locate "Fortune Mall" in Google maps, is it near to Pantip plaza?
Apart from this I checked "Lazada Thailand" is also offering the same product with a decent discount. I was wondering if anybody has used this website to buy anything & tried getting the delivery at one's Hotel?I have used Lazada numerous times, good prices and usually 2 or 3 day delivery and see. O. the. If you have the street address of the hotel there should not be a problem, if you go cod, and.
They cannot find the address, you are not out any money.
I think the crumbling old dodgers of now have wisened up and found out they are much better served and taking care of by middle aged (say around 40 years old) Thai women than by hot young spinners who hardly know how to cook a decent meal, do laundry, iron your shirt and do your housekeeping. Besides that, these more mature women are still good looking and enjoy a romp in the hay as much as you do.Indeed.
I'm 61 and I just spent a week on a beach in Koh Lanta with a 45 year old (with a regular job) whom I met on Thai Cupid. She took very good care of me in all senses. I felt much more relaxed with her than I think I would have done with a 20-something.
FreeWillyBruh
03-12-16, 18:25
Finally getting around to writing my TR. Mixed in big swampy with Pattaya, Phuket, Pnom penh and SR. Hit some favorite haunts in BKK and will just stick to them here. Stayed in Soi 8 and Soi 29 as I enjoyed Queens Park plaza last year. I did the rounds in all the bars leading down to QPP and most hostesses are nice with some miles from Suk down. Don't know what happened with QPP but got tired quickly of all the drink requests as even though I don't mind ringing the bell, when ready to pull and depart the additional requests for more rounds gets old. I understand the quality is less here but I enjoy some small venues at times with the liberty to play a bit of DJ. Prices were 600 b BF and 2 k on average. Created alot of of 3 some here last year but didn't pull as their just wasn't the vibe happening here from years past. Started the night on 22 only. Of note, found Anne working at the sub Soi down from QPP at Anastasia. A bit lazy but what a booty and bod. Standard 400 with 2 k + tip. Checked out BKK48 but only 3 there with cards to overview services. Not good but worth a visit if you want some middle of the road fiestas. Checked out Addict and saw a nice line up and went with Mama's choice of Frame, top shelf body and service of 8/10 with damage of 2100 b + tip. They have some quality at this place and was allowed 2 pop. Went to Pink to see if Kaew was working but settled for another tanned Issan gem for same pricing. Rooms same from years past but you have choice of book or line up. Kaew still has the most perfect chest from 5 yrs ago.
Went to 24 and checked all those out. Pulled an outcall from Boss at 3 k to hotel and the girl names was Pupy and although a small chest, she had an even smaller frame and is a couple years older than the website age. Good service and attitude. If you want tiny, she is your chica!
Did Insanity and left as this place sux now as the number of girls there is anemic compared to the guys.
Cowboy bars were the usual as what is typically echoed here but found better fun and line up to my taste at Shark where I was allowed to send tips and get some good tunes spun. Would pull from here for 3 some. Another JLO booty discovery with 3 k ST and 6 k LT quote. Negotiations bruh!
NP was OK and was surprised that Billboards quality was down a tad but still a good place to drink and get some good times in. FLS outside entrance actually had some prospects and pulled a 22 yr old post partum sista for 1500 b to hotel on Soi 8. Quoted 3 k for her friend but declined.
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) girls are friendly and although lacking in looks, good service. Would have the am java and pop here. Kasalong looked promising but did not partake. Dr BJS needs to get some warm water in the prewash basin but the service was good even though the chic didn't take her see-cup friends out.
Used to like Magic Table but the girls there are way below doable but a good place to drink outside and watch the MP girls marketing strategies in the Soi.
Would frequent the Soi 11 MP'S for late night fiascos and you can find the odd gem in there for 400 b shop and 1000-2000 FS. Street bars up and down Suk are good times with some additional gems.
Will do the other posts in the appropriate sections. Love BKK but more Epic follies are always guaranteed in Patts.
MusicalToM
03-13-16, 12:20
Dear all,
Could somebody please guide me with Freelancer clubs. Bars in BKK. I'm looking for places like Insomnia / iBar in Pattaya.
Hope somebody would be able to guide me.
Blanquiceleste
03-13-16, 16:24
Dear all,
Could somebody please guide me with Freelancer clubs. Bars in BKK. I'm looking for places like Insomnia / iBar in Pattaya.
Hope somebody would be able to guide me.Read up on Uncle Volodya's reports. He is a self confessed Disco / Club fan. There is more information than you will need for one trip in all his reports.
Leisure Dude
03-13-16, 22:17
Met my driver who brought me to the Landmark hotel, checked into a nice room on the 24th floor. Decompressed for a little bit and surf. The net to find what to do decided on a soapy from Poseidon, so I wrote down the name and address and headed to the cabstand. I showed the attendant where I wanted to go and he flagged down a taxi and for 150 bht I was there shortly. On the way I noticed this selection of the street a lot of soapy on it.
Walked in and I saw a fishbowl to the left and walked in and was told models on third floor. Walked back into the lobby and noticed the.
Staircase with a sign on stating 3rd floor Models Closed. Someone pointed out the elevator to the right with a white glove female elevator operator. The door opened and there where about 8 to 10 ladies in different type of costumes from playboy bunny to natty nurse just.
Sitting outside of the elevator doors. I walked out and there was another fishbowl there, I was surprised how bright it was lit. There were about 10 to 15 ladies sitting there. Mama-son came over and asked if I would like some thing to drink, I order a coke asked which lady I would like it was kind of hard to choose we were sitting far away. I choose a lady with big boobs, she was wearing a white half top witched showed off those big boobs and a pink fringed mini skirt and 4" silver heels. She came over and sat down, she pulled some napkins from.
The hold and wrapped my glass of coke with it. Her name is Moo I think and she started playing with the hair on my forearms while Mama-son wrote up some things quickly the cost of the coke, the girl, the room which total out to be about 6,000 bht. We took the elevator up. To the 6th floor it looked like a common hotel corridor with lots of doors off of it. Moo walked us down the corridor I saw an attendant.
Folding towels in one room. Moo walked me to this Egyptian style room with a red reclining chair, a king size bed, and a two person tub. An attendant came in and asked if we would like something to drink. Moo order water and I was fine with my coke. Moo started running the water for the tub, we talked for a bit while she got undressed she was wearing a nude strapless bra and panty I like when the girls who wear the same color bra and panties.
We got into the tube together were I just laid back and let Moo do her thing, she criss-cross her legs and had me sit nice and close were she washed my chest, arms and legs. Whit those big boobs of her she placed my cock in the middle of them for a nice little tits fuck.
Moo did a very fine wash job, we dried off and made are way to the bed were she started off with a JB, 69, miss. As we were getting dressed I notice Moo had a scorpion tattoo on her back and ask her when was her birthday? She said October 26th just one day before.
Mine. What a nice start to this vacation went back to the Nana area and walked around the Hotel, grabbed something to eat at Burger King it was very late around 12 am. I found Soi Nana and walked around all three levels from the outside just checking things out. Recon today for when I return back to Bangkok spotted a few lady boy by the bugle in their bikini bottoms and there voices is another give away. I saw this hot looking lady in a gray. Dress and a black lace bra on level three just walking without out a care in the world.
I would like to invite the contributors to this forum to share their experiences with diseases contracted because of this very enjoyable hobby we have.
My personal experience is that I contract something for every 80 encounters. I should mention that I absolutely always use a condom, which has broke.
For every 125 encounters to be very exact.
This is what I have contracted:
1. Scabies. I got it from some lady on Koh Lanta. It's very easy to contract. It will itch increasingly but the good news is that it can be easily treated.
Unfortunately I spread it to one other person before finding out about the diagnosis, and we both had to have treatment. Gone in a few days.
2. Giardia Lamblia. This is a parasite thriving in the intestines. People can be carriers without knowing about it, and for sure one of my temporary friends.
Was one of them. Got it after rimming her and another beautiful lady, both very well groomed and immaculate. I got acutely very ill and spent two days alternating.
Between the bed and the bathroom in a very bad state. Treatment worked fast and it was gone in two days after starting the cure. I had no appetite and thus lost weight.
Which was a nice side effect of getting it. If you rim a girl, she can only have Giardia, but also a nice selection of worms (15 % of Thais have), you will not see them.
Protruding from her most intimate bottom part but depending on your enthusiasm for getting into her entrails the invisible eggs will find their way into you.
3. Molluscum contagiosum. This virus is extremely common in the Sukhumvit area. At first you think it is a pimple, then they grow and protrude from.
The skin with a white middle that you cannot easily squeeze out. Maybe you will have only a few of them, maybe, with time, one hundred. It normally takes a.
Few months until the immune system discovers them and kills the virus, but some are very unlucky and the condition will last for several years. It is extremely.
Contagious and jut by touching it you can easily spread it to other parts of the body. You will also very easily spread it to others, either.
By skin contact, or by another person using the same towel or bed lining as you. It thrives especially in hot and humid areas, like, well you know.
The good news is you can treat the lesions with podophyllotoxin. Personally, I got rid of the condition in a matter of weeks, thus I was among the.
Lucky ones. I spread it to one other person before finding out what it was. If you have molluscum, there is quite a chance you have some other sexually.
Transmitted disease as well.
The good news is you can blame it on taking a bath in a public swimming pool. In some cases this has been enough to contract it. Or, if you pass it to a.
Family member, hide your lesions well then after a few weeks reveal it and suggest you got it from her.
Genital warts are endemic and can be difficult to get rid of. If you look closely at porn movies, quite a few actors have it. Can be treated with.
Podophyllotoxin or cryotherapy, I surprisingly never got this but from what I know is most often more difficult to get rid of compared to molluscum contagiosum.
4. Amphetamine or other drug intoxication. My friend went to a club and the women he left with was into everything. For the first time ever, my friend was tempted to snort.
A line she offered. The effect was immediate, he got talkative, very friendly, and also, his judgment was severely impaired, My friend took her to his hotel and the first line.
Was followed by 4-6 more snorts, he doesn't remember. In his hyper-excited, euphoric, friendly state he said yes to everything she suggested, and lost a lot.
Of money to this mercenary, extremely manipulative women. As a very nice side effect, the stimulant resulted in a completely limp dick, as is commonly the case.
This can be the case for a number of stimulants, including cocaine, amphetamine, crack, ice, exctacy, and many others, including many medications. A very elevated.
Feeling, but no sex except all things that can be done without penetration. After she left the hotel he experienced a terrible comedown including fast heart rate, anxiety.
Restlessness and fear of dying from a heart attack or stroke which does happen to several thousand people around the world every year. Is your heart strong enough?
If you like Russian roulette, my tip is snorting a line with a unknown substance is much more exciting. Fortunately, I had pregabalin, benzos and zolpidem with me.
And slept through most of this terrible phase.
Now I know the tricks of an the most proficient SW I have ever met, and I don't think it will happen again. I am generally a very trustful person and even with a lot.
Of experience I was easy pray in the presence of a woman hellbound to, and extremely clever in, withdrawing money from you in a very efficient manner using the.
Whole emotional specter women are capable of. Unfortunately, I am very sensitive to womens' needs and complains, and I think many others in this forum would.
Have identified the red flags much earlier, for instance the constant offers of expensive upselling.
Here is a summary of other diseases you risk:
Herpes virus type 1 is extremely common among everybody and almost all of us already have it in the mouth area, however most of us are lucky.
And there are no outbreaks. Because the virus sheds even if there is no outbreak, you can spread it to other peoples mouth and also genitalia when kissing.
And in other ways enjoying those parts of a person with your mouth. Of course, it goes the other way round too. If you have had a lot of BBBJ, then you.
Most likely already have contracted it. If you are among the lucky majority, you do not have any outbreaks, or you have very small ones which you.
Mistakenly think are pimples or just red spots.
Herpes virus 2 is most common in the genital area and condoms do not protect very well against contracting this. Again, if you are among.
The lucky ones, you do not notice anything, but you will be a lifelong carrier. Because this virus sheds even if there is no outbreak, you will transfer.
It to others.
Sooner or later. You can get it in the mouth also. Most SW have it, in Bangkok, based on reports, most likely your darling for the next hours or night.
Has it.
Herpes 1 and 2 have stigma but really they are like a common cold and the medical society is partly responsible for making it a big deal. However,
For women, contracting it can be a very heavy burden, especially if it hits the vagina, and I had a mistress for some time with this condition and she.
Spent several days in hospital in agonizing pain when she had her first outbreak, contracted from a firmer boyfriend.
Condoms do not provide sufficient protection unless you just put your little man out of your underwear so that all parts are covered. However, it might.
Take time, to say the least, before this is common practice.
Some have a lot of outbreaks, however it can be kept partly in check with valaclovir but if you get it you will no longer be able to have unprotected.
Sex with anybody without they risking contracting it as well. Taking valaciclovir before the close encounter will reduce but not eliminate the risk.
If you are lucky, she already has the disease, or if she contracts it from you, she might be among the lucky ones who do not notice. But you will not.
Know. The worst case is that you both will have regular mouth sores and no sensible girl will kiss you or let you go down on her. Frequent deep.
French kissing and DATY means you will get it today, in a few months, or maybe in a few years. However, if persistent in this hobby, sooner or later.
You will get it.
Trichomonas, gardnerella, chlamydia and yeast infections: If you DATY and she smells like fish, it is most likely gardnerella. If her genital lips are.
Bloated and read, it is most likely yeast infections. All of these conditions can be easily treated. Chlamydia is especially bad for girls as they can get.
Sterile because of it. As men, we are most often only carriers and do not notice anything, until the day our wife or regular girlfriend gets it. Taking.
Metronidazole or / and azitromycin generallys cures those nuisances.
Gonorrhea: It will normally show in men. Often a thick, yellow discharge. Can be treated easily in most of cases, however treatment-resistant.
Strains are on the raise and if you are among the lucky ones then this is not what you get. Personally, this is one of my biggest fears.
Hepatitis A: Hepatitis A spreads with rimming and will normally leave you very weak and sometimes hospitalized, for a few month.
Hepatitis be spreads with unprotected intercourse and is generally a life-long condition meaning you will always have to use a condom.
Even with your wife. Try to explain that. Not easy.
Hepatitis see spreads with sexual contact and is a life-long disease.
HIV: One, unprotected intercourse carries, in general, a low risk for contracting it. Vaginal sex, for men: 1/2500 chance to get it per unprotected.
Intercourse. Women, the vagina not being protected by skin: 1/1250 chance per time. The bad news: The risk will be much higher if she has.
Genital herpes, as she most likely has, or if the disease is in an active phase. Not possible to know for you! In Bangkok, if you engage in.
Unprotected sex, research shows that you have a 1/2-300 risk per intercourse there. Given of course, that the lady has HIV.
If you had a bowl with 200 white candies, and one was deadly, would you eat one of the candies? Ten? One hundred?
If one hundred, you have a 50 % chance you have already taken the pill. If contracted, you will have to take strong medicines for the rest of.
Your life, always have protected sex, and of course struggling with whether and how to tell other.
Anal sex: In average, you have a 1/71 chance of contracting it if engaging in unprotected sex.
Every time. Same risk for men and women.
See http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv for some additional information and also look for high-quality.
In PubMed.
Bareback in general: If statics from large groups of people doing the same as you, you will quite, intercourse-wise, rather quickly get chlamydia, gardnerella.
And thrichomonas, then herpes 1 and 2, and gonorrhea. Quite likely, you will not notice any of them, you will only, at least FR. When you go bareback with a girl, she is the one most likely.
To pay the price. Maybe you don't care, in that case you should work on you empathy for other living beings. You are not more important than her.
If you do care, never go bareback.
I think that contraction of diseases is heavily underreported in this forum. My guess is that quite a few have stayed away from the business for.
Months or years because of these embarrassing disease. Others simply do not pay notice and happily and unknowingly spread their illnesses to others.
Unfortunately, safe sex does not exist, condoms protect the penis and the vagina only but not the area around. Here, herpes, molluscs, and many.
Other interesting, minuscule creatures nurture and are looking for a new host. At what time it will be you, well heaven knows. Avoiding BBBJ and DATY.
Rimming, and kissing, reduces the risk. If these activities is what you particularly enjoy, you have to make a choice.
In the worst case, you will regularly or for a long time not be able to enjoy your hobby. If you ignore it and go on as usual, you have to live with.
The case that girls will contract it from you and will not be able to work, either for short or for a prolonged time.
Personally, I am willing to take the risk, and reckoning that getting a few diseases is part of this game. I always use a condom, have a regular booster.
Dose of the vaccine that exist for the two conditions.
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BigRig2007
03-14-16, 07:33
I arrived from Manila at around 6:00 pm the other night. The flight was delayed because I hear all flights are delayed from Manila. I used the Siam Resorts fast track and limo service and they did a good job, though I don't know how I ended up for speed through immigration and customs, relative to everyone else on my flight. No complaints though. I would use them again. I believe it cost me like $45 USD. I stayed at the Majestic Grande Hotel and I stayed in the Majestic Grande Suite. This room was off the hook with two bedrooms, a living room and a huge outdoor area with a hot tub. The staff were very gracious and helpful. The breakfast was decent with lots of choices. I booked May, someone did a short review of her in the Bangkok Escorts forum. She is very pretty, 5'1", probably 110 or 115 lbs because she is fit not lithe. She has a very nice ass and legs. Small bees. She has very long black hair that is sexy as hell. I don't want to post pictures because I don't think she would want her face pics up relative to this forum. Anyway, she was worth it IMHO. She arrived early with her overnight bag because I had requested a 24 hour appt. When I met her it seemed like we were old friends already. She was very friendly and accommodating. In fact, I told her that I had to shower to wash the Manila yuckies off me and when I came out of the shower she had on a sexy outfit with garter stockings and all that, ready to go a round. I declined because I was hungry and we went out. We had a laugh about that one though. She took me to Gullivers to eat and that was pretty good. I love sports bars! Very laid bag was out time as we talked (she speaks very good English) and she took me for a walk around the area. We walked by Soi Cowboy and, honestly I was not impressed. I didn't see any good looking girls out front of any place. It was around midnight. It didn't seem too crowded either. We continued to walk and rode a tuktuk home to the hotel. She was ready for some action as I called the hotel staff to get the hot tub ready. We started in there and quickly worked out way to the bed where there was lots of BBBJ then Some DATY with FIV till I believe she came a bunch. Then mish and finish in K9. I was tired so cleaned up and went to bed. The next day, we were up early with a full day ahead of us. She jumped on for some morning BBBJ and took me for a rcg ride till completion. We did a day of temples and she arranged all the transportation with the boats and taxis and tuktuks. Let's just say we did a lot of stuff, I was completely exhausted. She let me nap after returning To the hotel. She went out and got beautified from somewhere nearby and I woke up to an angel in my face. She stripped down and BBBJ and rode me again, then we were off to Lebua Sky bar. Lebua Sky bar is fucking expensive to eat at. Don't do it. I spent almost $300 USD, my steak was two pieces. Anyway, it was a lovely spot though. We ended up coming home and went directly to sleep. So, May stayed for a couple of nights with me way over what I paid for. She was an excellent tour guide and a great companion in general. At no time did I feel as if I was with an escort. Obviously, I'm sure YMMV. She also pointed me in the direction of Vasu Money exchange where I got a full, almost 5 baht per dollar more than the airport! Love this girl. Anyway, I just arrived in Pattaya and I am relaxing, the bell guy said he would send up a massage girl so I guess my Pattaya report will start with that. Aloha!
BigRig2007
03-14-16, 23:29
FYI. I did end up buying some Viagra from the Rx with a little walk up window right across the street from NEP. They were 2100 baht for 4 pills. I bought 2 packs so 8 pills for 4200 baht, this works out to be a little over 15 USD per pill. Still a pretty good price.
FYI. I did end up buying some Viagra from the Rx with a little walk up window right across the street from NEP. They were 2100 baht for 4 pills. I bought 2 packs so 8 pills for 4200 baht, this works out to be a little over 15 USD per pill. Still a pretty good price.That's really expensive, you should've stick with generic version. Even so the Viagra brand shouldn't be that expensive per pill.
I booked May, someone did a short review of her in the Bangkok Escorts forum.Very nice report mate. What did May cost for the 24 hrs booking if you don't mind me asking?
BigRig2007
03-15-16, 02:57
Very nice report mate. What did May cost for the 24 hrs booking if you don't mind me asking?I gave her 30 k and it was well worth it, to me, for what I received she was also the best tour guide for the day!
BigRig2007
03-15-16, 12:46
That's really expensive, you should've stick with generic version. Even so the viagra brand shouldn't be that expensive per pill.Than in the US. So I am very happy with the price. Not for me anyway, going to turn it around at a $$.
I would like to invite the contributors to this forum to share their experiences with diseases contracted because of this very enjoyable hobby we have.
My personal experience is that I contract something for every 80 encounters. I should mention that I absolutely always use a condom, which has broke.
For every 125 encounters to be very exact.
This is what I have contracted:
1. Scabies. I got it from some lady on Koh Lanta. It's very easy to contract. It will itch increasingly but the good news is that it can be easily treated.
Unfortunately I spread it to one other person before finding out about the diagnosis, and we both had to have treatment. Gone in a few days.
2. Giardia Lamblia. This is a parasite thriving in the intestines. People can be carriers without knowing about it, and for sure one of my temporary friends.
Was one of them. Got it after rimming her and another beautiful lady, both very well groomed and immaculate. I got acutely very ill and spent two days alternating.
Between the bed and the bathroom in a very bad state. Treatment worked fast and it was gone in two days after starting the cure. I had no appetite and thus lost weight.
Which was a nice side effect of getting it. If you rim a girl, she can only have Giardia, but also a nice selection of worms (15 % of Thais have), you will not see them.
Protruding from her most intimate bottom part but depending on your enthusiasm for getting into her entrails the invisible eggs will find their way into you.
3. Molluscum contagiosum. This virus is extremely common in the Sukhumvit area. At first you think it is a pimple, then they grow and protrude from.
The skin with a white middle that you cannot easily squeeze out. Maybe you will have only a few of them, maybe, with time, one hundred. It normally takes a.
Few months until the immune system discovers them and kills the virus, but some are very unlucky and the condition will last for several years. It is extremely.
Contagious and jut by touching it you can easily spread it to other parts of the body. You will also very easily spread it to others, either.
By skin contact, or by another person using the same towel or bed lining as you. It thrives especially in hot and humid areas, like, well you know.
The good news is you can treat the lesions with podophyllotoxin. Personally, I got rid of the condition in a matter of weeks, thus I was among the.
Lucky ones. I spread it to one other person before finding out what it was. If you have molluscum, there is quite a chance you have some other sexually.
Transmitted disease as well.
The good news is you can blame it on taking a bath in a public swimming pool. In some cases this has been enough to contract it. Or, if you pass it to a.
Family member, hide your lesions well then after a few weeks reveal it and suggest you got it from her.
Genital warts are endemic and can be difficult to get rid of. If you look closely at porn movies, quite a few actors have it. Can be treated with.
Podophyllotoxin or cryotherapy, I surprisingly never got this but from what I know is most often more difficult to get rid of compared to molluscum contagiosum.
4. Amphetamine or other drug intoxication. My friend went to a club and the women he left with was into everything. For the first time ever, my friend was tempted to snort.
A line she offered. The effect was immediate, he got talkative, very friendly, and also, his judgment was severely impaired, My friend took her to his hotel and the first line.
Was followed by 4-6 more snorts, he doesn't remember. In his hyper-excited, euphoric, friendly state he said yes to everything she suggested, and lost a lot.
Of money to this mercenary, extremely manipulative women. As a very nice side effect, the stimulant resulted in a completely limp dick, as is commonly the case.
This can be the case for a number of stimulants, including cocaine, amphetamine, crack, ice, exctacy, and many others, including many medications. A very elevated.
Feeling, but no sex except all things that can be done without penetration. After she left the hotel he experienced a terrible comedown including fast heart rate, anxiety.
Restlessness and fear of dying from a heart attack or stroke which does happen to several thousand people around the world every year. Is your heart strong enough?
If you like Russian roulette, my tip is snorting a line with a unknown substance is much more exciting. Fortunately, I had pregabalin, benzos and zolpidem with me.
And slept through most of this terrible phase.
Now I know the tricks of an the most proficient SW I have ever met, and I don't think it will happen again. I am generally a very trustful person and even with a lot.
Of experience I was easy pray in the presence of a woman hellbound to, and extremely clever in, withdrawing money from you in a very efficient manner using the.
Whole emotional specter women are capable of. Unfortunately, I am very sensitive to womens' needs and complains, and I think many others in this forum would.
Have identified the red flags much earlier, for instance the constant offers of expensive upselling.
Here is a summary of other diseases you risk:
Herpes virus type 1 is extremely common among everybody and almost all of us already have it in the mouth area, however most of us are lucky.
And there are no outbreaks. Because the virus sheds even if there is no outbreak, you can spread it to other peoples mouth and also genitalia when kissing.
And in other ways enjoying those parts of a person with your mouth. Of course, it goes the other way round too. If you have had a lot of BBBJ, then you.
Most likely already have contracted it. If you are among the lucky majority, you do not have any outbreaks, or you have very small ones which you.
Mistakenly think are pimples or just red spots.
Herpes virus 2 is most common in the genital area and condoms do not protect very well against contracting this. Again, if you are among.
The lucky ones, you do not notice anything, but you will be a lifelong carrier. Because this virus sheds even if there is no outbreak, you will transfer.
It to others.
Sooner or later. You can get it in the mouth also. Most SW have it, in Bangkok, based on reports, most likely your darling for the next hours or night.
Has it.
Herpes 1 and 2 have stigma but really they are like a common cold and the medical society is partly responsible for making it a big deal. However,
For women, contracting it can be a very heavy burden, especially if it hits the vagina, and I had a mistress for some time with this condition and she.
Spent several days in hospital in agonizing pain when she had her first outbreak, contracted from a firmer boyfriend.
Condoms do not provide sufficient protection unless you just put your little man out of your underwear so that all parts are covered. However, it might.
Take time, to say the least, before this is common practice.
Some have a lot of outbreaks, however it can be kept partly in check with valaclovir but if you get it you will no longer be able to have unprotected.
Sex with anybody without they risking contracting it as well. Taking valaciclovir before the close encounter will reduce but not eliminate the risk.
If you are lucky, she already has the disease, or if she contracts it from you, she might be among the lucky ones who do not notice. But you will not.
Know. The worst case is that you both will have regular mouth sores and no sensible girl will kiss you or let you go down on her. Frequent deep.
French kissing and DATY means you will get it today, in a few months, or maybe in a few years. However, if persistent in this hobby, sooner or later.
You will get it.
Trichomonas, gardnerella, chlamydia and yeast infections: If you DATY and she smells like fish, it is most likely gardnerella. If her genital lips are.
Bloated and read, it is most likely yeast infections. All of these conditions can be easily treated. Chlamydia is especially bad for girls as they can get.
Sterile because of it. As men, we are most often only carriers and do not notice anything, until the day our wife or regular girlfriend gets it. Taking.
Metronidazole or / and azitromycin generallys cures those nuisances.
Gonorrhea: It will normally show in men. Often a thick, yellow discharge. Can be treated easily in most of cases, however treatment-resistant.
Strains are on the raise and if you are among the lucky ones then this is not what you get. Personally, this is one of my biggest fears.
Hepatitis A: Hepatitis A spreads with rimming and will normally leave you very weak and sometimes hospitalized, for a few month.
Hepatitis be spreads with unprotected intercourse and is generally a life-long condition meaning you will always have to use a condom.
Even with your wife. Try to explain that. Not easy.
Hepatitis see spreads with sexual contact and is a life-long disease.
HIV: One, unprotected intercourse carries, in general, a low risk for contracting it. Vaginal sex, for men: 1/2500 chance to get it per unprotected.
Intercourse. Women, the vagina not being protected by skin: 1/1250 chance per time. The bad news: The risk will be much higher if she has.
Genital herpes, as she most likely has, or if the disease is in an active phase. Not possible to know for you! In Bangkok, if you engage in.
Unprotected sex, research shows that you have a 1/2-300 risk per intercourse there. Given of course, that the lady has HIV.
If you had a bowl with 200 white candies, and one was deadly, would you eat one of the candies? Ten? One hundred?
If one hundred, you have a 50 % chance you have already taken the pill. If contracted, you will have to take strong medicines for the rest of.
Your life, always have protected sex, and of course struggling with whether and how to tell other.
Anal sex: In average, you have a 1/71 chance of contracting it if engaging in unprotected sex.
Every time. Same risk for men and women.
See http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv for some additional information and also look for high-quality.
In PubMed.
Bareback in general: If statics from large groups of people doing the same as you, you will quite, intercourse-wise, rather quickly get chlamydia, gardnerella.
And thrichomonas, then herpes 1 and 2, and gonorrhea. Quite likely, you will not notice any of them, you will only, at least FR. When you go bareback with a girl, she is the one most likely.
To pay the price. Maybe you don't care, in that case you should work on you empathy for other living beings. You are not more important than her.
If you do care, never go bareback.
I think that contraction of diseases is heavily underreported in this forum. My guess is that quite a few have stayed away from the business for.
Months or years because of these embarrassing disease. Others simply do not pay notice and happily and unknowingly spread their illnesses to others.
Unfortunately, safe sex does not exist, condoms protect the penis and the vagina only but not the area around. Here, herpes, molluscs, and many.
Other interesting, minuscule creatures nurture and are looking for a new host. At what time it will be you, well heaven knows. Avoiding BBBJ and DATY.
Rimming, and kissing, reduces the risk. If these activities is what you particularly enjoy, you have to make a choice.
In the worst case, you will regularly or for a long time not be able to enjoy your hobby. If you ignore it and go on as usual, you have to live with.
The case that girls will contract it from you and will not be able to work, either for short or for a prolonged time.
Personally, I am willing to take the risk, and reckoning that getting a few diseases is part of this game. I always use a condom, have a regular booster.
Dose of the vaccine that exist for the two conditions.Thanks a lot!! What a party pooper / Debbie downer you are. What is your point? Anyone can find that information online. Besides this belongs in a different section of this forum. Geez.
Roger Sideways
03-15-16, 21:08
FYI. I did end up buying some Viagra from the Rx with a little walk up window right across the street from NEP. They were 2100 baht for 4 pills. I bought 2 packs so 8 pills for 4200 baht, this works out to be a little over 15 USD per pill. Still a pretty good price.That certainly is expensive. In Australia I can get it on prescription for less than $4 per pill.
MusicalToM
03-15-16, 21:29
I came from Pattaya with mixed experience & hit Nana Plaza around 12 pm. Oh god, mongering is so easy and interesting in Pattaya. I feel Bangkok is nothing in terms of accessibility and comfortable in front of Pattaya. It's too congested and non-interesting here.
Anyway I goes up to 1st Floor in Nana Plaza and checks out some girls just outside. I was a club, I don't remember the name but it's exactly opposite to "Angel Witch" doesn't allow brown and black skinned people. Too pathetic. When somebody is ready to spend some money what's your problem to let that person in. Idiots.
Anyway checked out FLs in front of Nana Plaza, but none looked attractive. Returned to room and going to have a good night sleep. Planning to move to Pattaya for one more day before leaving from Thailand, although it's going to cost a good amount of money. Let's see.
And somebody please provide some light on this racism in P4P industry as well.
That certainly is expensive. In Australia I can get it on prescription for less than $4 per pill.That's because Pfizer, the maker of Viagra, decided to make a generous contribution to help the men down under (pun intended). Well, we all know you guys need it more than the rest of us. So, enjoy! Sideways, or any which way it works for you! LOL. Jk . 😛
I gave her 30 k and it was well worth it, to me, for what I received she was also the best tour guide for the day!Lucky for May to have found a generous guy like you. That is an insane amount of money in Thailand but you seem very happy with what you got for it and that all it matters. Good on you my friend.
BigRig2007
03-16-16, 01:50
Lucky for May to have found a generous guy like you. That is an insane amount of money in Thailand but you seem very happy with what you got for it and that all it matters. Good on you my friend.Yeah, I was going to book a regular private tour guide and they wanted like $200 anyway so I got a tour guide with benefits for 2 days. I am really happy with my purchase. Haha. Plus, I think I've made a friend in a really cool girl. I'm shooting some dust already so I might be done with the mongering down here for the next few days anyway! LOL.
SuperMarckus
03-16-16, 03:50
Anal sex: In average, you have a 1/71 chance of contracting it if engaging in unprotected sex.
Every time. Same risk for men and women.Dude,
If you're going to gross people out at least get your facts straight. I knew for a fact that this bit was wrong and so checked with Catie. According to them the chance of getting HIV from an infected partner is 1 in 71 for both men and women who are the receptive partner. For men who are topping a woman the chance is worked out as 1 in 1,667. Not quite the same thing now, is it?
I'm not suggesting anyone take that as an all-clear to bum a bargirl without a raincoat, in fact the thing you say about respecting a working girls' life and health was the only part of your post I wholly agreed with.
What I don't agree with is you pissing in the pool under the auspices of being an insider. I'll wager there's be a lot of disinformation in your report if I could be bothered to check it all out. But it's fine, I get it: you don't like prostitution. That's okay, thousands don't. But you're not telling the truth.
As an aside, I've never really understood the American hysteria about herpes. I was born with it, had it all my life. I couldn't give a shit. It's really not that big a deal. I have to laugh when I read on the internet that I'm meant to be suffering from a 'stigma'.
Dude,
If you're going to gross people out at least get your facts straight. I knew for a fact that this bit was wrong and so checked with Catie. According to them the chance of getting HIV from an infected partner is 1 in 71 for both men and women who are the receptive partner. For men who are topping a woman the chance is worked out as 1 in 1,667. Not quite the same thing now, is it?
I'm not suggesting anyone take that as an all-clear to bum a bargirl without a raincoat, in fact the thing you say about respecting a working girls' life and health was the only part of your post I wholly agreed with.
What I don't agree with is you pissing in the pool under the auspices of being an insider. I'll wager there's be a lot of disinformation in your report if I could be bothered to check it all out. But it's fine, I get it: you don't like prostitution. That's okay, thousands don't. But you're not telling the truth.
As an aside, I've never really understood the American hysteria about herpes. I was born with it, had it all my life. I couldn't give a shit. It's really not that big a deal. I have to laugh when I read on the internet that I'm meant to be suffering from a 'stigma'.Here are the CDC's numbers on the risk of transmission of HIV from an infected individual, http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/risk.html. Although the CDC's data might not be perfect--these types of data never are-- there presently is no better source of information about HIV transmission rates in at least most of the world (Africa is another story). Lysmar's statistics are nonsense.
It should also be noted this topic, including the CDC's statistics, have been discussed here before; quite a bit in fact. I don't think a relative newbie to this forum who apparently hasn't read the earlier posts on this subject, and who is armed with inaccurate statistics, is going to add much to the discussion of this issue.
I will write my last reviews from my November trip.
As I came back from Pattaya in Bangkok, I remembered that I planned to visit Som's Heaven a place that I discovered 2 years ago. It's close to Soi cowboy on a back alley.
Last time when I was in BKK, I spent some time at the place, and I talked a lot with Som the owner. She was a blowing lady herself in one of the BJ bars in Sukhumvit, I don't remember exactly which one (maybe lollipop) .
As I got there she was eating so I waited for her to finished while I spoke with the girls. There was one that I remembered from last visit but my favorite one was not there. As Som finished eating I asked her about the girl and she told me she works in another bar. I asked her for a recommendation, she pointed me one of the friendly ladies with whom I have already spoken.
I agreed on taking here and we went to the room. I asked her about filming her, and she said not right now. That answer is usually used to refuse in a polite manner. After blowing me in a decent way I told her I want to fuck her. We started fucking which was quite pleasing, especially because I could here other 2 girls sucking in the other rooms. This almost group sex is quite appealing to me.
She sucked me until I came, than she let me took a few pictures (clothed), we went down stairs, I payed and I left.
To be honest, I was quite disappointed this time of the whole experience. Som isn't so friendly any more, my lady was not so good. At least the selection seamed decent, even though most of them are fat.
I always like fucking the BJ bar girls, as they don't get the amount of fuck the normal WG are getting so they are likely to be more tight, wet and even horny.
Next day I decided to try finding something exotic. As the hijab ladies that were staying in from of rajak (I still don't know how to spell it) were too old and fat for me, I tried to find something else.
After about two hours of going up and down Sukhumvit, I found a young Indian lady, about 21 , big tits, dark skin, a little big ugly face.
She wanted 1500 for ST, I offered 2000 including video and COF which she immediately agreed on.
We went to a short time hotel, we got into the room, we showered and than we started fucking.
After a decent BJ, we started fucking in different positions. Her pussy was really tight and she seamed to enjoy it. I finished on her face which she didn't particularly like but she tried not to show it.
I payed her and than we both left.
Looks: 6 (her body was OK but tits was kind of saggy, face was ugly).
Sex: 7.5 (extra points for tight pussy, COF and video, some minuses for lack of anal and lack of kinkiness).
GFE: 7 (one can seldom rate the GFE in Thailand but she was quite friendly, she spoke decent English, she didn't rush, and she seemed very relaxed).
In my last night I wanted to take one of the girls that I had at the start of the trip from Angelwicht. I won't repeat the story, but I ended up taking another girl.
I chose a girl that looked a bit out of the ordinary. For me she looked like a Vietnamese, but apparently she was half Laotian. Mamasan which I trust told me that she is quite new in the bar and that she didn't really work too much. As far as she knew, she had a relationship before with an European (that was confirmed by the girl later in the room).
I bought her a drink, we had some chemistry, I told her that I want to take her for LT and that I will be paying the 4000 that she is asking for if she will agree to COF and video. She hesitated but in the end, after an intervention from mamasan that vouched for me, she accepted. The drinks were about 300 , the BF was around 700 , tip for mamasan 300.
We went out to eat something and she started telling me her life story. Being my last night, I didn't really mind hearing the same thing that I already heard 1000 times (she only wants to do it for a short time, she needs the money, bla bla) . She told me that she worked in a restaurant, and actually showed me the place, allegedly that being the source of her good English. I was surprised that she spoke a few German words as well (that she learned from her BF) . She was young, skinny, petite and very very cute.
When we got into the room she was quite shy but horny. Her pussy was really wet and she was really getting hornier with every touch. She sucked me, than I fucked her in many positions which she really seamed to enjoy. I finished on her face in a glorious way. We repeated in the morning, I gave her the money, than she left.
Looks: 9.5 (from the Asian standard she was amazing, great tight body, small firm breasts, great ass, cute face, hypnotizing smile).
Sex: 9 (I know I am kind of over evaluating, but that is how it felt, she was really horny, she was shy but than she relaxed, she was tight and submissive).
GFE: 8 (I ll rate again the GFE as it really felt like sex with a GF, if only she wouldn't have that sad look in her eyes).
In conclusion, it was a great trip again but I think I'll skip Thailand this year. I am looking for a new destination that has video friendly ladies. Any recommendation would be greatly appreciated. It would really help to have a separate category for the video lovers.
CaptCabins
03-16-16, 14:12
I came from Pattaya with mixed experience & hit Nana Plaza around 12 pm. Oh god, mongering is so easy and interesting in Pattaya. I feel Bangkok is nothing in terms of accessibility and comfortable in front of Pattaya. It's too congested and non-interesting here.
Anyway I goes up to 1st Floor in Nana Plaza and checks out some girls just outside. I was a club, I don't remember the name but it's exactly opposite to "Angel Witch" doesn't allow brown and black skinned people. Too pathetic. When somebody is ready to spend some money what's your problem to let that person in. Idiots.
And somebody please provide some light on this racism in P4P industry as well.Have some dignity and walk away. Why pay money to them when they do not want your money.
As a farang I tend to be quoted higher prices compared to a local. Do I like it the answer is no. So what I do is I avoid places that quote farang prices and support buss. That gives me a fair price.
Spankys accept anyone to their club so go there. There are other clubs you can go to and support their buss. Why bother going to a place that does not welcome you.
Banana Boi
03-16-16, 15:33
Which is the best disco that plays good house music around the sukhumvit area between Nana and Cowboy? Not looking for a pick up place since I'm bringing 2 gogo girls from Pattaya. Just looking for good music and atmosphere. The louder the music, the wilder the party the better. We're pretty crazy.
In the main area was thinking of levels. A bit further out was thinking of Grease and Demo / Funky Villa. Thoughts?
Thanks.
Christian G
03-16-16, 15:44
Which is the best disco that plays good house music around the sukhumvit area between Nana and Cowboy? Not looking for a pick up place since I'm bringing 2 gogo girls from Pattaya. Just looking for good music and atmosphere. Thanks.Maybe you could try CHI Ultra Lounge on soi 13. I think this is a ex Bed Supper Club located on soi11, at BSC I always found a good house music and cool atmosphere it was a good place for relax with your girl.
Dextro Sol
03-16-16, 15:54
I read an article a couple of weeks ago about prostitution in Bkk. The author wrote that most of the girls in go-go bars and massage parlors are burmese nowdays. It is a couple of years since I visited Soi Cowboy, but I never noticed. Has this changed recently or is the author just guessing?
BigRig2007
03-16-16, 16:52
Which is the best disco that plays good house music around the sukhumvit area between Nana and Cowboy? Not looking for a pick up place since I'm bringing 2 gogo girls from Pattaya. Just looking for good music and atmosphere. The louder the music, the wilder the party the better. We're pretty crazy.
In the main area was thinking of levels. A bit further out was thinking of Grease and Demo / Funky Villa. Thoughts?
Thanks.I noticed that the Thais love electronic music and classic rock, well not classic rock but 80's Rock. Haha.
Hey there,
Will be in Bangkok on April 2nd & 3rd. Was in town last year about this time for 4 days. And the best visit between Nana, Soi Cowboy & Thermae was definitely Thermae. Found a slim mid 20's part timer looking for a payday for a 12 hour, 3 shot evening for 3,500 baht. As I said, slim, 7-8, be cup, and very friendly GFE. As I will be in town for only 2 nights, any recent Thermae experiences? Searched over the past 6 months & did not see anything. When there last year had to have been over 150 girls of all shapes & sizes, all asking or 3,00-4,500 Baht for LT. Any recent experiences? Any other recommendations? Have not tried Pattaya even though been to town 4-5 times- is it worth it? Anyone around looking for a wing man? Staying at Grande Majestic.
Thank you! Will report.
Will
Christian G
03-16-16, 18:59
I read an article a couple of weeks ago about prostitution in Bkk. The author wrote that most of the girls in go-go bars and massage parlors are burmese nowdays. It is a couple of years since I visited Soi Cowboy, but I never noticed. Has this changed recently or is the author just guessing?It seems very strange to me. Personally I do not believe it.
Wolvenvacht
03-16-16, 19:58
I read an article a couple of weeks ago about prostitution in Bkk. The author wrote that most of the girls in go-go bars and massage parlors are burmese nowdays. It is a couple of years since I visited Soi Cowboy, but I never noticed. Has this changed recently or is the author just guessing?Burmese? I think that is rather unlikely. Girls lfrom Laos or Cambodia (who can easily pass for Isaan girls and their language is closer to the Isaan dialect) are certainly a part of the WGs in Thailand, both in Bangkok and Pattaya. Everytime a raid is held on an agogo club, illegal Laos or Cambodian workers are reported. I don't remember ever having read that they found Burmese girls.
I read an article a couple of weeks ago about prostitution in Bkk. The author wrote that most of the girls in go-go bars and massage parlors are burmese nowdays. It is a couple of years since I visited Soi Cowboy, but I never noticed. Has this changed recently or is the author just guessing?There have been a lot of rumors about Burmese ladies coming to Thailand in the last years. I personally like the Burmese looks and always looked for them. In all my trips o didn't had more than 2 , and those were living in Thailand for a while. And a few times when I was there, I didn't see any that would look Burmese whatsoever.
Burmese? I think that is rather unlikely. Girls lfrom Laos or Cambodia (who can easily pass for Isaan girls and their language is closer to the Isaan dialect) are certainly a part of the WGs in Thailand, both in Bangkok and Pattaya. Everytime a raid is held on an agogo club, illegal Laos or Cambodian workers are reported. I don't remember ever having read that they found Burmese girls.Crazy House has at least 2 Burmese Girls working.
But still then, it's way out of "most girls". There are a few, but still a minority.
FreeWillyBruh
03-17-16, 02:37
Crazy House has at least 2 Burmese Girls working.
But still then, it's way out of "most girls". There are a few, but still a minority.For consecutive years at Honey 2 soapy in Patts, I managed to pick Burma stunner that were so sweet and service centric. The only common theme per last month's girl was the fact they prefer Singapore for trade and shopping and know they can hoard big bucks in LOS during peak season. Disappointing that this year was only 1 pop for the 3 k sideline but she pampered for the full 90 min. There are more of her colleagues there from her homeland.
Preben From Dk
03-17-16, 03:29
I'll be in Bangkok from the 11th of April. I'm a bit worried that many of the girls working in the industry will go back to their home regions. What do you Bangkok "specialists" think?
The author wrote that most of the girls in go-go bars and massage parlors are burmese nowdays. It is a couple of years since I visited Soi Cowboy, but I never noticed. Has this changed recently or is the author just guessing?This is a side comment and not about 'working girls' specifically. I went diving in Phuket / southern Thailand in December and the incidence of Burmese workers in the south is just astonishing. Many speak very limited Thai but have actually better English than the local staff. And I was similarly amazed at the number of Fillipinas working in the hotels. I suspect that (at least for legit businesses) the ASEAN now provides the ability to hire foreign nationals who have better English skills and there you have it. Not sure I'd expect to find a pinay in Cowboy, but who knows?
MusicalToM
03-17-16, 12:02
Well it was my last night. I was planning for a nice time since haven't laid for a night. Started from hotel around 10:30 directly to Cowboy. Had dinner and thought of checking out Club Insomnia or Insanity whatever you call it.
Insomnia / Insanity:
Paid entry fee 300 which contains one free drink. Took Manao Soda (I don't drink alcohol), occupied a place. Time was around 11:30 and very thin crowd. Interesting music was playing, couple of girls were dancing on center stage. No one caught my eye except one cute standing next to my table but smoking cigarettes, so a big no from my side. In between 2 aged girls come up and ask for free beers from my side, sorry ladies I'm not an idiot. Waited till 1 but no one caught eye. Left with disappointment. I've been to Insomnia in Pattaya and it's a great place to pick nice freelancers, but here it's too pathetic. Won't go and future. But yes if somebody is looking for partying with friends, then it's a nice place.
Next I hit Cowboy around 1:15, went directly inside to Baccara.
Baccara:
Was asked to buy drink first, 180 bahts for a plain soda damn costly. Went inside and got a place to sit in ground floor. WTF man, all girls are Chinese / Japanese and saw a huge Chinese / Japanese client base as well. Are they targeting east Asian clients? Few Caucasians. Some real stunners were there but I'm in Thailand to see Thai girls not Chinese or Japanese. Went to 1st floor and sit for few minutes, but again no one interesting. They have real stunners with model kind of faces but they are not Thai which I don't like. I believe Thai girls are more beautiful than Chinese or Japanese. Waited till 2 pm and left. There was a topless show going on on top floor as well, you can see their nice asses if sit on ground floor and look up.
While returning almost all agogos are either dormant or closed, nothing to check. Was returning to hotel with empty vessel when saw a good looking Freelancer opposite to Nana Plaza, checked out and she was only available for ST. Said good night and walked to hotel. Another night of loneliness.
Heading now to Pattaya, for which I've extended my vacation by 4 days. Already have spoken with my temporary GF from Laos for the night. We are going for bowling and dinner as well. Hoping for the best.
I read an article a couple of weeks ago about prostitution in Bkk. The author wrote that most of the girls in go-go bars and massage parlors are burmese nowdays. It is a couple of years since I visited Soi Cowboy, but I never noticed. Has this changed recently or is the author just guessing?Nowadays No. Many years ago before Thaksin, large numbers of ThaiYai from Burma worked in Bangkok in Soapies and bars. Itried one or two. Nice girls. Then the big sweep out came from one of Thaksin's ministers.
Recently there is a new crack down and sweep out. Only Thai Nationals can be gogo girls or work in MPs. Below the age also cannot. Maybe the odd bar that is special exception above the law especially if owned by the Police. Special bars are always notified in advance of an inspection or raid. E. g. Crazy House. I have not detected any Burmese girls in Crazy House that cannot speak Thai clearly, however I don't speak to everyone.
I agree there are plenty of Burmese non sex workers in south of Thailand and even Koh Chang to the east. They speak English ok usually but not Thai.
Even some Bangkok Hotels have Burmese workers, like Silq for example.
ThaiYai in Thailand usually can speak the northern dialect of Thai moderately well but some words they change the tone or consonants. One girl I know says "Wat" when she means to say "bat" meaning Id Card. I eventually got used to her strange Thai. Known her since before Thaksin came to power. Many years.
Thai Yai come from the mountains of Myanmar but are not really Burmese as such. Look more like Tibetan chinese. Other hilltribes from Myanmar maybe around like Akha, Karen, Maew, Yao, Lisu, etc. I met one such girl at Livingstones Sports bar a few years back. She was good GFE performer.
Some have worked in the sex industry in the past but right now, I doubt it unless they are Thai Nationals?
Mumbai Guy
03-17-16, 16:09
Hey there,
Will be in Bangkok on April 2nd & 3rd. Was in town last year about this time for 4 days. And the best visit between Nana, Soi Cowboy & Thermae was definitely Thermae. Found a slim mid 20's part timer looking for a payday for a 12 hour, 3 shot evening for 3,500 baht. As I said, slim, 7-8, be cup, and very friendly GFE. As I will be in town for only 2 nights, any recent Thermae experiences? Searched over the past 6 months & did not see anything. When there last year had to have been over 150 girls of all shapes & sizes, all asking or 3,00-4,500 Baht for LT. Any recent experiences? Any other recommendations? Have not tried Pattaya even though been to town 4-5 times- is it worth it? Anyone around looking for a wing man? Staying at Grande Majestic.
Thank you! Will report.
WillBeen to Thermae twice during my trip to BKK last month. The scene is still the same. Girls out number guys. All shapes and sizes available. 1500-2000ST and 3500-4000 LT. Took two girls on two different days. Both ST and 2000 Baht. One was a starfish while the other was VFM.
Solo Traveler
03-17-16, 16:22
Are there any European-style sauna clubs / FKK clubs in Bangkok?
(A brothel with sauna facilities+swimming pool+small bistro+bar. You can relax, eat, and drink before you start picking up girls).
I know you can order food in some large Massage Parlors, but you will be dressing in normal clothes and is not relaxing at all, and there are no sauna or steam room in most Massage Parlors.
However, most Sauna websites I found online are gay saunas.
It's a huge cultural difference that one can be seen as a homosexual if he says he likes to go to Sauna clubs, while in Europe, Sauna clubs are heaven for heterosexual men who love young and hot girls.
Anyway, I need a Sauna which is for heterosexual men whether just to relax or to fuck working girls.
Any recommendations?
I don't know about Burmese girls in BKK, but last time I was there, in January, I picked up a Cambodian girl in Climax.
She was cute, a tiny bit older than average girls there (around 30), spoke decent English and was a good performer.
I even picked her up back to back which is a bit unusual for me.
Damage: 2000 bath short time. Well worth it!
Christian G
03-17-16, 18:06
Are there any European-style sauna clubs / FKK clubs in Bangkok?
(A brothel with sauna facilities+swimming pool+small bistro+bar. You can relax, eat, and drink before you start picking up girls).
I know you can order food in some large Massage Parlors, but you will be dressing in normal clothes and is not relaxing at all, and there are no sauna or steam room in most Massage Parlors.
Anyway, I need a Sauna which is for heterosexual men whether just to relax or to fuck working girls.
Any recommendations?I never heard about this kind of Sauna FKK style in Bangkok nor in Thailand in general. Maybe is better you check the Macau section, sauna in Macau are famous and expensive. (For me not worth the price IMHO).
Fun Filled
03-17-16, 18:50
Which is the best disco that plays good house music around the sukhumvit area between Nana and Cowboy? Not looking for a pick up place since I'm bringing 2 gogo girls from Pattaya. Just looking for good music and atmosphere. The louder the music, the wilder the party the better. We're pretty crazy.
In the main area was thinking of levels. A bit further out was thinking of Grease and Demo / Funky Villa. Thoughts?
Thanks.I guess you choice are pretty good but you should also check chi ultra lounge at Soi 13, Its latest addition and quite happing these days. You should definitely check RCA area also though its bit away from Sukumvit road.
Are there any European-style sauna clubs / FKK clubs in Bangkok? +1 Curious to know. Will be there in less than two weeks, would be awesome.
Are there any European-style sauna clubs / FKK clubs in Bangkok?
(A brothel with sauna facilities+swimming pool+small bistro+bar. You can relax, eat, and drink before you start picking up girls).
I know you can order food in some large Massage Parlors, but you will be dressing in normal clothes and is not relaxing at all, and there are no sauna or steam room in most Massage Parlors.
However, most Sauna websites I found online are gay saunas.
It's a huge cultural difference that one can be seen as a homosexual if he says he likes to go to Sauna clubs, while in Europe, Sauna clubs are heaven for heterosexual men who love young and hot girls.
Anyway, I need a Sauna which is for heterosexual men whether just to relax or to fuck working girls.
Any recommendations?You can swim at your Hotel. Bangkok weather is hot and humid like a Sauna. Thais are not crazy enough to want a real Sauna. Neither am I. In FKK I don't see any need to use the Sauna. Plenty of massage places. In bars like Crazy House you can eat drink and relax with lots of naked girls but no Sauna. In some bars like Star of light you can get a blow job while sitting at the bar and maybe fuck a girl on the sofa.
Saunas are just not relevant to sex for heteros. Nor all that wellness shit. In Thailand people want to cool down rather than steam cook themselves.
Are there any European-style sauna clubs / FKK clubs in Bangkok?If you need a sauna, simply walk around outside, especially from April onward.
When it's 108 F outside, with 80% humidity, you won't need a sauna. It's not a part of the Thai culture, so you'll find very few.
Somewhere15
03-18-16, 01:56
I'll be in Bangkok from the 11th of April. I'm a bit worried that many of the girls working in the industry will go back to their home regions. What do you Bangkok "specialists" think?There are always enough girls around who want to make business (and even real FREElancers) but don't forget your raincoat.
Thais who celebrate Songkran can get crazy and before you now you are partly or totally wet.
In 7/11 and similar stores the sell before Songkran special plastic pouches for hiding your cellphone (in case the cellphone isn't weatherproof).
CaptCabins
03-19-16, 13:39
Hi,
Can you guys recommend soapies with young anal providers (below 30 years old)? Looking for rate between 2000 to 2500 baht per hour? No fatties.
William Kewy
03-19-16, 20:43
Hey fellas,
I am visiting Bangkok for 2 days, would like to a have a full time companion. Senior members please advice. Best and cheap places to look for or if you know any angels pass on the contacts please.
Thanks.
Hello guys,
Visited Thailand in the beginning of February and was in Phuket, Pattaya and Bangkok.
Will be writing a detailed account of all experiences soon. Have been a little tied up with work and another small trip I made in between.
Stay tuned.
Hi,
Can you guys recommend soapies with young anal providers (below 30 years old)? Looking for rate between 2000 to 2500 baht per hour? No fatties.Anal is not a normal service at Soapies. Annies does have anal girls. Just a few slim girls amongst many fatties.
Why Soapy? You are better off at Snow White, Mango, Cherry, or Tulip.
Crocodilexp
03-19-16, 22:43
Are there any European-style sauna clubs / FKK clubs in Bangkok?
(A brothel with sauna facilities+swimming pool+small bistro+bar. You can relax, eat, and drink before you start picking up girls).
Would be interesting to see if there are such clubs. Being foreign, I imagine such an arrangement would be expensive here.
As for the sauna itself, it's fairly obvious why it has a limited appeal in Bangkok (just go outside and you're guaranteed to sweat profusely). A swimming pool is much more appealing.
Crocodilexp
03-20-16, 00:00
FYI. I did end up buying some Viagra from the Rx with a little walk up window right across the street from NEP. They were 2100 baht for 4 pills. I bought 2 packs so 8 pills for 4200 baht, this works out to be a little over 15 USD per pill. Still a pretty good price.Thank you for posting the pictures as a warning to others. Nice design, but it doesn't look much like genuine Pfizer packaging (including the updated one) that I've seen.
Most people naive enough to believe that a hole-in-the-wall pharmacy would sell you genuine Viagra are also naive enough to pay 2100 baht for it. Good business.
You paid over 10 times what you needed to. Sidegra, the Thai generic with same active ingredients, costs 100 baht for 4 x50 MG pills and 180 baht for 4 x100 MG pills. Too cheap to profitably fake.
Still, don't worry much, the active ingredients are cheap, so your pills will probably work anyway (though the likelihood of contaminants and consistency is higher than a proper generic like Sidegra).
Wolvenvacht
03-20-16, 00:25
Most people naive enough to believe that a hole-in-the-wall pharmacy would sell you genuine Viagra are also naive enough to pay 2100 baht for it. Good business.
I've bought Viagra there many times, both the original stuff and later when it became available, the Thai generic version and never have been cheated. It's not because it is small and in the middle of the action that you should doubt it.
CaptCabins
03-20-16, 04:12
Anal is not a normal service at Soapies. Annies does have anal girls. Just a few slim girls amongst many fatties.
Why Soapy? You are better off at Snow White, Mango, Cherry, or Tulip.Hi syzgies,
Snow white, Mango and Cherry are those agogo bars. What are their rates? Is anal extra?
I've bought Viagra there many times, both the original stuff and later when it became available, the Thai generic version and never have been cheated. It's not because it is small and in the middle of the action that you should doubt it.That little place does a lot of business with the working girls. I bought some generic there after watching the locals lining up for all kinds of meds. No rip offs here.
Crocodilexp
03-20-16, 09:54
That little place does a lot of business with the working girls. It does, I was once passing by and saw a girl buying Acyclovir pills (for HIV treatment) there. She looked good! Good reminder of the perils of our hobby.
It does, I was once passing by and saw a girl buying Acyclovir pills (for HIV treatment) there. She looked good! Good reminder of the perils of our hobby.Acyclovir is for Herpes not for HIV.
Acyclovir is for Herpes not for HIV.Yet another reason why guys should NEVER rely on self-medication advice that is liberally offered by wannabe medicos on this board.
DrInTheDesert
03-20-16, 15:01
Hi all,
I'm a user visiting from Dubai (Western expat, FWIW). I'm writing today because I'll be in town for another week and would love some suggestions on where I should go based on my preferences (which I will detail below). I've been to Bangkok several times and have had many hits and many more misses, so I hope you can help. I'll state what I'm looking for first and then I'll offer some AAR of experiences both this trip and in the past. You will have my profound gratitude if you can help (either publicly or via PM).
Okay. So what am I looking for. Here are my preferences (in no particular order):
1. Light-skinned Thai ladies.
2. Russians (and Russian-looking CIS / not Kazakhs and such).
3. Arabs, should they exist.
4. Latin American.
I have preferences very similar to Thai men. Darker skinned, scrawny (or chubby, for that matter) Isaan girls don't do it for me. What's more: they're crude and greedy. I can't tell you how many times I've had my arse (or crotch) grabbed followed by a "halo, welcome," buy me drink, etc. No thank you. Not to mention these broads can't hold their liquor and insist on drinking it. Even when I offer to get them diet coke or something like that.
Money isn't an issue. I'm coming from Dubai where things are super pricey. I'm willing to pay more for better quality. So, my basic questions are (a) where can I find ladies that fit the description above and (b) what's the going rate for ST / LT with them? Also, it doesn't have to be FS. I could live with a gorgeous woman meeting my criteria only doing HJ or something similar.
And yes, I've RTFF. However, some places that used to be good for Russians (CM2, for ex.) are now closed. Up-to-date info would be helpful.
Okay. With that out of the way, as an act of good faith, let me offer some AAR on places I've gone this trip and past trips.
- I've learned to stay the hell away from gogo bars. Girls and mamasans are aggressive, constantly demanding drinks. It's always a slippery slope. Once you show a willingness to buy a drink for one lady, you get the whole Isaan brigade demanding drinks. No thanks. Moreover, these girls get drunk very easily and then they're terrible to deal with. For example, one trip I visited Angelwitch at NEP. I kinda liked it so I went back several times. One day, big mama thrusts a new girl at me. Not my type. I was actually enjoying banter with the waitress. But I bought drinks just to shut mama up. Well, the new girl got trashed and asked me to take care of her. I felt bad, so I did. We got back to my hotel. She laid on bed, closed her eyes, and demanded we have sex but was clearly not in to it. Next morning, same thing. Even after the sobered up. No thanks.
- The Ratchada road places around Suthisan on the MRT are fantastic. Yes, you pay more. However, these places are classy. Copacabana is my personal favorite. They have a smooth house band and a nice bar. I avoid the fishbowl and look for the sidelines. My first time there the papasan assumed I was like most farang dudes and liked tan girls. I said hell no. I'm like a Thai guy. He hooked me up with a 10/10 in my book. She's a sweetheart and I go see her every time. 5,900 B is not cheap, but for 90 minutes in a classy environment with a top-quality lady. Hell, yes. Poseidon is also good. Caesar's is dated and overpriced.
- As for night clubs, I've had recent success at Mixx. I met a smoking hot Colombian last week. I wasn't even necessarily looking for a date. I just wanted to have a drink and a smoke with some good music and eye candy. Then this chick asks if she can have a cigarette, which I happily oblige. Once I learn she's Colombian, I speak a little Spanish to her. Which she loved, BTW. We met around 2:30 am. Stayed and danced until 5:00 am, then headed back to my hotel. Both of us were kind of tired, so she cuddled up to me and fell asleep. We woke up around noon, she made us coffee, and we chatted in Spanish for five hours. No joke. She starts kissing me and you can figure out the rest. Stupid me. I forgot to ask her how much before we left the club. Amateur mistake. Anyhow, she was flexible and she did stay with me over 24 hrs. I ended up giving her 15,000 B. I'm sure there are some of you reading that and ready to keel over. I know I overpaid (tell me how much? But to be frank - $430 for a 24 HR jaunt is not bad at all.
Anyhow, that's all for now. Thanks in advance for any advice.
Crocodilexp
03-20-16, 15:14
Acyclovir is for Herpes not for HIV.Reading a bit more, I guess you're right. Primary use is for Herpes, but it also lowers HIV viral load, and is often used to treat opportunistic infections in people with HIV.
Pipe Layer99
03-20-16, 17:49
FYI. I did end up buying some Viagra from the Rx with a little walk up window right across the street from NEP. They were 2100 baht for 4 pills. I bought 2 packs so 8 pills for 4200 baht, this works out to be a little over 15 USD per pill. Still a pretty good price.You could have walked around the corner less than 100 m and got Thai viagara (which works great!) for 180 baht for 4 pills! Sidegra (Thai brand) works just as good if not better than the other brand. That's about 1. 30 US per pill.
Pipe Layer99
03-20-16, 18:01
I gave her 30 k and it was well worth it, to me, for what I received she was also the best tour guide for the day!30 K for 1 day.
Daaammmnnn, I banged 6 girls in the last 8 days. 4 were free. 1 woman I know from a year ago, 1 I just met, 1 from 2 years ago, and 1 here from Laos to see the music festival this weekend.
The other two I gave 1000 each (1 is gogo girl who I met on wechat, she got 1000 + 120 for taxi, she stayed 1. 5 hours).
The second one, also a wechat pick-up stayed all night. No negotiations. Just met, ate at the condo, drank, and fucked. I gave her 1000 the next day to help her pay rent) LOL.
AssLover945
03-20-16, 18:28
I gave her 30 k and it was well worth it, to me, for what I received she was also the best tour guide for the day!Wow amazing.
That is my budget for next 15 girls at least!!
WTF dude !!?? Did you just add one zero extra by mistake ?
LOLOL
Cant stop laughing hahaha
Somewhere15
03-20-16, 18:59
Wow amazing.
That is my budget for next 15 girls at least!!
WTF dude !!?? Did you just add one zero extra by mistake ?
LOLOL
Cant stop laughing hahahaHe will reply that he had her 24 hours (and most of the hours he sleep) and that compare to his own country this is a bargain!
I don't understand why he is happy; he could have at least 6 hot girls from Mixx.
- I ended up giving her 15,000 B. I'm sure there are some of you reading that and ready to keel over. I know I overpaid (tell me how much? But to be frank - $430 for a 24 HR jaunt is not bad at all.
There is no need to pay these prices. If a FL girl like you she will stay with you. I meet girls in places like Climax and Bangkok Beat that will stay with me 12 - 24 hours for 2500 - 3000 Baths. That is if they do not have a day job. No need to spoil the girls with overpaying. The service will be the same.
Wow amazing.
That is my budget for next 15 girls at least!!
WTF dude !!?? Did you just add one zero extra by mistake ?
LOLOL
Cant stop laughing hahahaYes; there have been a few reports of relatively huge overpays recently. My advice to the newbies:
The service you receive will not be better if you overpay. You will not be consider generous. You will be considered foolish. In fact this behavior will likely be considered condescending and showing off. More likely than not you will be thought of as a clueless chump farang and looked down upon.
Leave you home market mongering comparisons at home. Learn the local Thai market prices and do not make yourself a mark.
SL.
Pipe Layer99
03-20-16, 23:01
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5,900 B is not cheap, but for 90 minutes in a classy environment with a top-quality lady. Hell, yes. Poseidon is also good. Caesar's is dated and overpriced.
- As for night clubs, I've had recent success at Mixx. I met a smoking hot Colombian last week. I wasn't even necessarily looking for a date. I just wanted to have a drink and a smoke with some good music and eye candy. Then this chick asks if she can have a cigarette, which I happily oblige. Once I learn she's Colombian, I speak a little Spanish to her. Which she loved, BTW. We met around 2:30 am. Stayed and danced until 5:00 am, then headed back to my hotel. Both of us were kind of tired, so she cuddled up to me and fell asleep. We woke up around noon, she made us coffee, and we chatted in Spanish for five hours. No joke. She starts kissing me and you can figure out the rest. Stupid me. I forgot to ask her how much before we left the club. Amateur mistake. Anyhow, she was flexible and she did stay with me over 24 hrs. I ended up giving her 15,000 B. I'm sure there are some of you reading that and ready to keel over. I know I overpaid (tell me how much? But to be frank - $430 for a 24 HR jaunt is not bad at all.
Anyhow, that's all for now. Thanks in advance for any advice.You can get a girl at a soapie for 2500. Don't know why you spent 5900 for 90 minutes in Thailand. That's fucking double the price.
Then you grab a girl and take her with you after 5 am. And you end up giving her 30,000.
For me, the most I have even given a girl in Bangkok in 2000 for ALL night. That's sex at night and sex in the morning. And I had the same girl come back that day. So we fucked 4 x for 4,000 baht! This is Thailand! SEA.
If anyone would bother reading the fucking forum they would know the going rates.
I submit that over paying does very little to zero harm to the mongers that follow the over payer. I assure you the girl who hit the sucker jackpot and was handed 10,000 baht on Monday for what I would only pay 2,000 baht will be just as broke and in need of my 2,000 baht on Tuesday as if she hadn't even seen 10,000 baht before.
The most disturbing thing about so many of these reports and the thing that I am convinced does tremendous and lasting harm to the market is that so many punters are handing out decent money, doesn't matter if it is 10,000 or as little as 1,000 baht, for ridiculously low levels of service. HJs? CBJ? No DFK? 10 times more sleeping than fucking? Punters who think they got a BJ but in reality any time you finish outside of the girl's mouth that can no longer be considered a BJ finish?
Seriously?
There is no way a girl can be "spoiled" in the sense of learning how to play the customer by hitting the sucker jackpot and getting 10,000+ baht for something she knows cannot possibly be worth more than 1,000 baht. Like the lottery where you either draw those lucky numbers or not and you can't count them coming in on a regular basis, that 10,000+ baht sucker either walks into the bar, into the soapy or up to her on the street or not.
But being handed that much or even as little as 1,000 baht while playing the customer into believing good Thai girls no longer allow DFK, stay very long with the customer, accept hot jets of cum shooting fully into their mouths and so on is a skill the girls CAN perfect if enough low demand customers continue to teach them how to perfect it.
And that unfortunate trend does affect the treatment and service level the next monger gets. Over paying, under paying or paying the exact going rate for laughably low levels of service is immaterial when the real damage being done comes from accepting that low level of service as "normal", not the amount some other dude paid for it.
I submit that over paying does very little to zero harm to the mongers that follow the over payer. I assure you the girl who hit the sucker jackpot and was handed 10,000 baht on Monday for what I would only pay 2,000 baht will be just as broke and in need of my 2,000 baht on Tuesday as if she hadn't even seen 10,000 baht before.
The most disturbing thing about so many of these reports and the thing that I am convinced does tremendous and lasting harm to the market is that so many punters are handing out decent money, doesn't matter if it is 10,000 or as little as 1,000 baht, for ridiculously low levels of service. HJs? CBJ? No DFK? 10 times more sleeping than fucking? Punters who think they got a BJ but in reality any time you finish outside of the girl's mouth that can no longer be considered a BJ finish?
Seriously?
There is no way a girl can be "spoiled" in the sense of learning how to play the customer by hitting the sucker jackpot and getting 10,000+ baht for something she knows cannot possibly be worth more than 1,000 baht. Like the lottery where you either draw those lucky numbers or not and you can't count them coming in on a regular basis, that 10,000+ baht sucker either walks into the bar, into the soapy or up to her on the street or not.
But being handed that much or even as little as 1,000 baht while playing the customer into believing good Thai girls no longer allow DFK, stay very long with the customer, accept hot jets of cum shooting fully into their mouths and so on is a skill the girls CAN perfect if enough low demand customers continue to teach them how to perfect it.
And that unfortunate trend does affect the treatment and service level the next monger gets. Over paying, under paying or paying the exact going rate for laughably low levels of service is immaterial when the real damage being done comes from accepting that low level of service as "normal", not the amount some other dude paid for it.Yes it can. Why? Because once a Asian gal gets the big bucks, settling for less is a loss of face in her mind. And then she also thinks she has to do less and less for that money as she has achieved a higher status. So it is all interrelated. Overpaying here does far more damage to the market than it would do in the West. However, I have found that the price you "come in at" is the price that you continue to pay. I have gals that I met years ago that will still accept what I paid them back in the mid-00's.
And honestly, we came to Thailand because the poon was cheap and good. That was the whole point of traveling and settling half way around the world.
DrInTheDesert
03-21-16, 09:24
Just to be clear: I overpaid for a Colombian, not for a Thai. And I never would. FWIW if the Russian ladies at Rajah are making 4-5 k for ST, I didn't overpay too badly. Bear in mind that these ladies undertake far more risk than the Thais do.
Anyway, rather than lament a poor choice I made, can someone help with my questions after the ceremonial stoning is done?
Yes it can. Why? Because once a Asian gal gets the big bucks, settling for less is a loss of face in her mind. And then she also thinks she has to do less and less for that money as she has achieved a higher status. So it is all interrelated. Overpaying here does far more damage to the market than it would do in the West. However, I have found that the price you "come in at" is the price that you continue to pay. I have gals that I met years ago that will still accept what I paid them back in the mid-00's.
And honestly, we came to Thailand because the poon was cheap and good. That was the whole point of traveling and settling half way around the world.
Anyway, rather than lament a poor choice I made, can someone help with my questions after the ceremonial stoning is done?http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?3187-Foreign-Sex-Workers-in-Thailand
SL.
Yes it can. Why? Because once a Asian gal gets the big bucks, settling for less is a loss of face in her mind. And then she also thinks she has to do less and less for that money as she has achieved a higher status. So it is all interrelated. Overpaying here does far more damage to the market than it would do in the West. However, I have found that the price you "come in at" is the price that you continue to pay. I have gals that I met years ago that will still accept what I paid them back in the mid-00's.
And honestly, we came to Thailand because the poon was cheap and good. That was the whole point of traveling and settling half way around the world.But then you are talking about a weird reaction in individuall girls to getting over paid once or twice. Given a few nights waiting in vain for another sucker jackpot to hit will generally cure or clear up that delusion.
I have been with too many girls happy to do a good job for me for the going rate that I am sure were over paid by 200-300% by other guys a few days earlier. The "damage" done to me had nothing to do with them demanding more money from me without budging due to the previous over payers. It was all about my now having to describe in almost excrutiating detail what a blowjob finish actually is (it is not finished outside the mouth, by hand. That is not a blowjob, honey. That is a handjob) as though they'd never heard of a woman doing that for a man from either their 2,000 custimers OR their 6,000 baht customers, or that LT starting near midnight does not end at 6 am and so on. The shocker is the wild over payer is apparently as willing to accept crap service from the girls as the deep discount negotiator.
Meanwhile, even you said you have plenty of options that have not followed hyper-inflation that some of their P4 P sisters have gotten. While I agree with you that a main reason for that was the starting point, but those girls are also part of the market and they don't seem to be affected by sucker jackpot fever. I am sure they have either heard or experienced the wild over payment incidents. I just don't see many girls misreading the occasional wild over payment as a sign that they are now even 4,000-5,000 baht girls instead of the 1,000-2,000 baht girls they know they could get tonight now that they need the money again.
Much bigger problem, IMO, is there are too many weak, low demand customers willing to pay them 2,000 baht or anything at all for crap levels of service, refusal to finish a BJ like a BJ and so on.
Yes it can. Why? Because once a Asian gal gets the big bucks, settling for less is a loss of face in her mind. And then she also thinks she has to do less and less for that money as she has achieved a higher status. So it is all interrelated. Overpaying here does far more damage to the market than it would do in the West. However, I have found that the price you "come in at" is the price that you continue to pay. I have gals that I met years ago that will still accept what I paid them back in the mid-00's.
And honestly, we came to Thailand because the poon was cheap and good. That was the whole point of traveling and settling half way around the world.I don't want to seem argumentative, but a loss of face is usually when others know. If she's come back to reality and accepted the going rate, don't see how this would become a loss of face. Perhaps being Asian is why I don't get it.
A couple of new tales to relate. Last report, I noted a girl who I referred to as the squirter. She also has not asked for money since our first encounter and turned down my cash offer on our first fandango.
So she comes over and once again blows a monster squirter after some heavy duty DATY by yours truly. Afterwards, she wants to go out and thinking it's to eat, I agree. But it's not to eat as 15 minutes later I find myself and her strolling the aisles of Big Country. The utter depravity of it all. Felt like I was in Target in USA with my suburban parked outside.
Racks up about $50 in food, drink, and cleaning items. I thought that I was buying things for her apartment. Fair enough but they are all for my apartment. When we return she makes me dinner in between washing my clothes and general clean-up. I told her not to wash as my apartment has this service but she ignores me.
After all this, I am informed she will be leaving for evening at 10:30 to make her appointed rounds, I suppose. She gets mad at me next day as I had to cancel a movie date. I suggest following evening but she ignores my text.
But hell has no fury as a woman scorned. The following early morning, I am awoken by my phone ringing. I decide not to answer but the phone continues to ring perhaps a dozen times. I look at the phone and now I see a photo of my front door lobby and another of the pool. I continue to ignore ringing; now it's up to 35 calls in a half hour. Finally, it stops but not before one more call at 5:30 am.
I send her a text following day. Don't call me at that hour; don't come to my apartment again, and finally good luck and have a nice life.
She writes back. OK, she says, and 'good luck'. End of story, I think.
I don't want to seem argumentative, but a loss of face is usually when others know. If she's come back to reality and accepted the going rate, don't see how this would become a loss of face. Perhaps being Asian is why I don't get it.And you think they don't tell the other gals what they get paid? Of course they do. Aside from being Thai, they are also female with all the cattiness, competitiveness, and snideness that goes along with it. Many would rather starve than except less than what they think they are "worth. ".
I am sure this has also happened to other punters but I thought that I should relay my most recent 'free' encounter.
Once again, I dropped into Bangkok Beat and immediately placed myself at a standing table near the entry. There were two Thai girls and a Thai guy also occupying the space and the Thai guy engaged me immediately and began to try to set me up with the girl directly next to me. As he confessed later, he is gay with a Dutch boyfriend, and the other girl was unemployed due to her beneficial financial relationship with a Norwegian guy. Those Norsemen are really raising the bar for all of us.
It turns out the girl next to me is visiting from Chiang Mai and it was her first time here at BB. She was clearly not free lancing as she owns a business and home in CA. It took a while but finally got around to some canoodling a few hours later whereupon I asked her to go with me. She would not as I suppose not that kind of girl but agreed to meet me on the following day and stay with me that night if all went well. Unfortunately, she did not speak English but intrigued I agreed anyway. So I walked her to her hotel and went home empty handed hoping my gambit paid off.
The next day we met and I bought her a bikini for our pool swim later. After a lunch, we returned to my apartment and it was game on. One interesting thing is she resisted DATY (though finally acquiesced) but gave me the best and most enthusiastic BBBJ and CIM (swallow too) since I have been in Thailand. Unlike most Thai P4 P, she really seemed to enjoy it. Most P4 P here I have discovered are not into it and especially avoid CIM.
So after a swim in the pool we returned to the apartment for another romp plus one in the morning. Later in the morning, she reconfirmed her departure time at 4 pm, which I thought would be from my apartment. But no, instead she puts me in her phone with her friend who says she wants to meet us at MCDonalds at Soi 5. We go over there only to find her friend has moved on to Gullivers. I won't bother with the details here but the end cost for lunch and drinks was 2400 bt. I had to leave for a bit to meet a friend and while the cats away, they racked up the tab. Her friend lamely offers me 500 bt off the tab when chastised by my friend though it was not even close to what she actually consumed.
Since I was lured out to meet at McDonald's, I did not expect this financial outcome. I am hoping my gal was not part of a conspiracy here but quite annoyed about what eventually transpired
The freebie girl wants me to visit her in Chiang Mai now but not a chance after that episode. I can see the same scenario unfolding with family members, friends etc.
I wrote a report a few months ago about a P4 P girl who told me she was expensive and never went for less than 3 k baht and that was short term. I said too bad as I never paid more than 2 k baht. She then countered with 2500 *(it was 2:45 am). I stuck to my guns and she accepted my 2 k baht offer and stayed to mid afternoon.
She eventually slapped me at a club one night a month or so later when she saw me dancing with another girl. She did not like that I was even consorting with another girl in a place she went regularly. I guess for her it was a kind of losing face situation though the only time I left with her at the aforementioned club was when it was shutting down for the night. Very few girls even saw us leave.
Basically, she is a spoiled brat and spoiled in part by a Norwegian guy (another one) who, at least according to her, bought her a condo on Soi 22 and a car. And she still hustles on the side...
And you think they don't tell the other gals what they get paid? Of course they do. Aside from being Thai, they are also female with all the cattiness, competitiveness, and snideness that goes along with it. Many would rather starve than except less than what they think they are "worth. ".
I am sure this has also happened to other punters but I thought that I should relay my most recent 'free' encounter.
Once again, I dropped into Bangkok Beat and immediately placed myself at a standing table near the entry. There were two Thai girls and a Thai guy also occupying the space and the Thai guy engaged me immediately and began to try to set me up with the girl directly next to me. As he confessed later, he is gay with a Dutch boyfriend, and the other girl was unemployed due to her beneficial financial relationship with a Norwegian guy. Those Norsemen are really raising the bar for all of us.
It turns out the girl next to me is visiting from Chiang Mai and it was her first time here at BB. She was clearly not free lancing as she owns a business and home in CA. It took a while but finally got around to some canoodling a few hours later whereupon I asked her to go with me. She would not as I suppose not that kind of girl but agreed to meet me on the following day and stay with me that night if all went well. Unfortunately, she did not speak English but intrigued I agreed anyway. So I walked her to her hotel and went home empty handed hoping my gambit paid off.
The next day we met and I bought her a bikini for our pool swim later. After a lunch, we returned to my apartment and it was game on. One interesting thing is she resisted DATY (though finally acquiesced) but gave me the best and most enthusiastic BBBJ and CIM (swallow too) since I have been in Thailand. Unlike most Thai P4 P, she really seemed to enjoy it. Most P4 P here I have discovered are not into it and especially avoid CIM.
So after a swim in the pool we returned to the apartment for another romp plus one in the morning. Later in the morning, she reconfirmed her departure time at 4 pm, which I thought would be from my apartment. But no, instead she puts me in her phone with her friend who says she wants to meet us at MCDonalds at Soi 5. We go over there only to find her friend has moved on to Gullivers. I won't bother with the details here but the end cost for lunch and drinks was 2400 bt. I had to leave for a bit to meet a friend and while the cats away, they racked up the tab. Her friend lamely offers me 500 bt off the tab when chastised by my friend though it was not even close to what she actually consumed.
Since I was lured out to meet at McDonald's, I did not expect this financial outcome. I am hoping my gal was not part of a conspiracy here but quite annoyed about what eventually transpired
The freebie girl wants me to visit her in Chiang Mai now but not a chance after that episode. I can see the same scenario unfolding with family members, friends etc.I read your post several times, but I still don't understand your reaction. A cost of 2400 bt for several rounds of good sex and enjoyment with a nice girl seems fair. I would call it a good deal. I have gone with several girls that invite friends like this and I accept is as normal socializing. If I like the girl I am happy to spend 2-3000 bt for drinks and lunch, even I also pay the girl for her time. Her (and the friends) reaction seems perfectly normal, but you come across as a little stingy. Yes, you bought her a small gift, food etc. But I'm not sure the girls racked up the bill on purpose. My point is that in my experience girls behave like this all the time, so there was nothing special with this Chiang Mai girl.
ISo after a swim in the pool we returned to the apartment for another romp plus one in the morning. Later in the morning, she reconfirmed her departure time at 4 pm, which I thought would be from my apartment. But no, instead she puts me in her phone with her friend who says she wants to meet us at MCDonalds at Soi 5. We go over there only to find her friend has moved on to Gullivers. I won't bother with the details here but the end cost for lunch and drinks was 2400 bt. I had to leave for a bit to meet a friend and while the cats away, they racked up the tab. Her friend lamely offers me 500 bt off the tab when chastised by my friend though it was not even close to what she actually consumed.
Since I was lured out to meet at McDonald's, I did not expect this financial outcome. I am hoping my gal was not part of a conspiracy here but quite annoyed about what eventually transpired
The freebie girl wants me to visit her in Chiang Mai now but not a chance after that episode. I can see the same scenario unfolding with family members, friends etc.It is cultural and comes with the territory. In a social situation they will order more food they can possibly eat even if it is with last baht in their pocket. They live for today and want to have good face with their friends and family. And especially when it is OPM (other peoples money) the sky is the limit.
As the old saying goes: if you think something is expensive now, just wait until it's free!
SL.
Of course, I don't object to buying my new friend (lover) lunch. In fact, I bought her lunch the day before along with her gay friend who helped with translating and facilitated our initial meeting.
I do object to buying lunch for someone I have never met and likely will never see again. As I mentioned, I turned down this women's offer of 500 baht for her 'share' of the meal after her friend made a comment to her when the bill was presented. If I was stingy, I would have taken her cash. What I find peculiar was this women told me and my friend we should meet at McDonalds but changed her location after our conversation. It's really the principal of the matter.
However, I can understand why you might be generally agreeable to paying the bill for your friend and her gal pals but I did not like the particular circumstances of this meeting. It also may have been the other woman was giving me the third degree about my travel plans and other sundry matters etc. And I just took a dislike to her. She must have told me half dozen times I should visit my friend in CM putting me on the spot.
Needless to say, I volunteered to pay the bill and let the issue slide undetected. In fact, my principal concern now is what to do about the onslaught of texts I have received from Chiang Mai today; not to mention an invitation to visit. 'Don't you miss me' etc.
CaptCabins
03-24-16, 00:47
Hi,
Team.
I would appreciate some pointers for massage parlors near suvarnabhumi airport.
Actually pointing for a parlour near to airport as on a tight schedule going to Bombay.
I'm staying in rayong, tried to find places here bt things seems dry here not many options.
I'm going back to India on 25th. Have a evening flight and running tight on schedule so want a quickie.
Please suggest good massage parlors near airport.
Shall help out surely in India.
Thanks.No MPs there. You have to travel bit and spend some of those rupees in the wallet on taxi.
Basically, she is a spoiled brat and spoiled in part by a Norwegian guy (another one) who, at least according to her,
bought her a condo on Soi 22 and a car. And she still hustles on the side...I keep hearing about these generous Norwegians. Are they all gullible or just filthy rich?
Hi,
Team.
I would appreciate some pointers for massage parlors near suvarnabhumi airport....Please suggest good massage parlors near airport..
Thanks.Tried to send you this note by PM but your inbox is full. You are probably not going to find what you are looking for unless you can detour down to Sukhumvit. (There is a thread in this forum about short-term options -- few / nonexistent--near Suvarnabhumi for guys with limited transit time, because this question is asked frequently.) There are no "sure thing" MPs near the airport. Good luck! TTG.
Mumbai Guy
03-24-16, 03:14
Hi,
Team.
I would appreciate some pointers for massage parlors near suvarnabhumi airport.
Actually pointing for a parlour near to airport as on a tight schedule going to Bombay.
I'm staying in rayong, tried to find places here bt things seems dry here not many options.
I'm going back to India on 25th. Have a evening flight and running tight on schedule so want a quickie.
Please suggest good massage parlors near airport.
Shall help out surely in India.
Thanks.I am afraid my friend, there are virtually no MP options available near Suvarnabhumi airport. You have to go to Sukhumvit or Huai Khwang for that. You can manage a quickie there but you must have at least 4-5 hours.
Hi,
Team.
I would appreciate some pointers for massage parlors near suvarnabhumi airport.
Please suggest good massage parlors near airport
Thanks.We could help if you were more specific with how much time you have available. "tight schedule" is unclear. Nataree Massage is an option. Using the incredibly efficient and fast Rail Link to / from the airport and transferring to the MRT to Huai Khwang and 3 minute walk. If you've never been in Bangkok and never used either of these rail systems, you are SOL. If you've used them, you land in happy world in 45 minutes.
Banana Boi
03-26-16, 06:38
Quick question. Will be at BKK airport and have a few hours to kill Sunday afternoon (2 pm to 7 pm). Any decent soapies or other areas I can go to within around 15 minutes from the airport? Thank you.
Another night, another escapade in Bangkok Beat. There was a quite bit of talent there last night including several new ones I have not seen before. I try to concentrate my efforts with this group as non P4 P can on occasion be found along with the wild cards. As it turns out, my efforts rewarded me the latter type. This girl seemed especially enthusiastic and bouncy when I slipped in next to her. She was also buying her own shots, which led to considerable issues later in the evening. I will discuss that later. However, her best feature was her ample breasts, plump behind, and nice smooth looking white skin, framed with lustrous dark wavy hair. Even though she said she was Thai, I did not think she sounded or really looked totally Thai and her accent seemed a little off too when she started speaking English to me. Vaguely Russian sounding or from one of the 'Stans, I thought.
After ignoring her initial entreaties and glances, I started reconsidering because she was just so sexy looking. I made her move and within 30 seconds, we were dirty dancing and making out prob in 10 minutes. This went on for quite a while until I proposed she come to my apartment. She readily agreed after we discussed prices. 2 k short time and 3 k long time. How long do you stay for LT, I inquired. Until at least noon, she said, and added you are in control.
Well, ok then. Game on. After a few smoking and toilet breaks, we started to leave but then she wanted to go to Climax for a drink. I said No and said I don't like Climax either. When we got outside BB, she tried to change her price to 4 K baht and I emphatically rejected it. This prob came about when she talked to one of the girls in the bathroom. Thick as thieves, these girls.
So we grabbed a taxi towards my place at the end of Soi 4, which necessitated passing Hillary bar. She pleaded for one drink there and finally I acquiesced. Hard to do as she was stroking my cock and offering her nipple for me to lick in the taxi. Basically, once we went inside, the wheels came off with my date. After a tequila shot or two, she disappeared in the crowd hitting up random and surprised guys, dancing with whomever on the floor. She then came over with a girl friend and offered me as a replacement for her. This girl friend was cute enough but really I was totally annoyed by how this evening was turning out. Several times I thought of leaving but finally corralled her and told her in front of her friend that I am either leaving with you or going home solo. This seemed to do the trick and I quickly got her in the taxi.
As soon she got to my apartment, the clothes came off immediately. She must have disrobed in under a minute and we headed to the shower. I quickly discovered she had an affinity for being spanked on her nice succulent ass and wanted to be spanked hard.
But, more than that, she wanted me to fuck her ass and I gladly accommodated her wishes. We went at it hard for quite a while. But this one was different, quite vocal, loved to talk dirty and was quite proficient and expressive in this subset rarely encountered with Thai girls. She also kept calling me Daddy, even asked me to slap her face when I was banging her mish. Declined on the face slapping though. Afterwards, she complained that I did not spank her ass hard enough. Afterwards she put on her clothes and said wanted to do only short time so paid her the 2 k agreed upon. However, she ended up staying another hour or so leisurely sucking my cock and balls, curling up on the bed for a time before leaving. By now, it must have been 4:30 am so don't think she was after another customer at that hour. However, we have made tentative plans for a long time session this week.
Oh, one other thing. She claims she sells cereal during the week for a regular living. The occupations these girls seem to have!
Another night, another escapade in Bangkok Beat. This went on for quite a while until I proposed she come to my apartment. She readily agreed after we discussed prices. 2 k short time and 3 k long time. How long do you stay for LT, I inquired. Until at least noon, she said, and added you are in control.You are not in control. Readily agree, she can readily disagree. We grant woman's prerogative at any time to change her mind. And, we too can change our mind -- any time we want. We never have this LT / ST discussion. Instead, just tell her at what time you intend to hand over the money. Later, if she wants to leave early- fine. Just be back at the appointed hour to receive compensation. You can prelude this by offering 'medium time' with the objective to preempt yourself from getting caught paying FT for ST.
Another night, another escapade in Bangkok Beat. There was a quite bit of talent there last night including several new ones I have not seen before. I try to concentrate my efforts with this group as non P4 P can on occasion be found along with the wild cards. As it turns out, my efforts rewarded me the latter type. This girl seemed especially enthusiastic and bouncy when I slipped in next to her. She was also buying her own shots, which led to considerable issues later in the evening. I will discuss that later. However, her best feature was her ample breasts, plump behind, and nice smooth looking white skin, framed with lustrous dark wavy hair. Even though she said she was Thai, I did not think she sounded or really looked totally Thai and her accent seemed a little off too when she started speaking English to me. Vaguely Russian sounding or from one of the 'Stans, I thought.
After ignoring her initial entreaties and glances, I started reconsidering because she was just so sexy looking. I made her move and within 30 seconds, we were dirty dancing and making out prob in 10 minutes. This went on for quite a while until I proposed she come to my apartment. She readily agreed after we discussed prices. 2 k short time and 3 k long time. How long do you stay for LT, I inquired. Until at least noon, she said, and added you are in control.
Well, ok then. Game on. After a few smoking and toilet breaks, we started to leave but then she wanted to go to Climax for a drink. I said No and said I don't like Climax either. When we got outside BB, she tried to change her price to 4 K baht and I emphatically rejected it. This prob came about when she talked to one of the girls in the bathroom. Thick as thieves, these girls.
So we grabbed a taxi towards my place at the end of Soi 4, which necessitated passing Hillary bar. She pleaded for one drink there and finally I acquiesced. Hard to do as she was stroking my cock and offering her nipple for me to lick in the taxi. Basically, once we went inside, the wheels came off with my date. After a tequila shot or two, she disappeared in the crowd hitting up random and surprised guys, dancing with whomever on the floor. She then came over with a girl friend and offered me as a replacement for her. This girl friend was cute enough but really I was totally annoyed by how this evening was turning out. Several times I thought of leaving but finally corralled her and told her in front of her friend that I am either leaving with you or going home solo. This seemed to do the trick and I quickly got her in the taxi.
As soon she got to my apartment, the clothes came off immediately. She must have disrobed in under a minute and we headed to the shower. I quickly discovered she had an affinity for being spanked on her nice succulent ass and wanted to be spanked hard.
But, more than that, she wanted me to fuck her ass and I gladly accommodated her wishes. We went at it hard for quite a while. But this one was different, quite vocal, loved to talk dirty and was quite proficient and expressive in this subset rarely encountered with Thai girls. She also kept calling me Daddy, even asked me to slap her face when I was banging her mish. Declined on the face slapping though. Afterwards, she complained that I did not spank her ass hard enough. Afterwards she put on her clothes and said wanted to do only short time so paid her the 2 k agreed upon. However, she ended up staying another hour or so leisurely sucking my cock and balls, curling up on the bed for a time before leaving. By now, it must have been 4:30 am so don't think she was after another customer at that hour. However, we have made tentative plans for a long time session this week.
Oh, one other thing. She claims she sells cereal during the week for a regular living. The occupations these girls seem to have!Wow, you are one lucky dude! Exceptional girl! Your report will stay embedded in my brain for quite some time, I think! Congrats! (BTW there are many ways this could have gone wrong, so I am really glad this worked out for you).
I'm going to be on the lookout for girls selling cereal when I'm in Bangkok next! LOL! 😛.
Another night, another escapade in Bangkok Beat. There was a quite bit of talent there last night including several new ones I have not seen before. I try to concentrate my efforts with this group as non P4 P can on occasion be found along with the wild cards. As it turns out, my efforts rewarded me the latter type. This girl seemed especially enthusiastic and bouncy when I slipped in next to her. She was also buying her own shots, which led to considerable issues later in the evening. I will discuss that later. However, her best feature was her ample breasts, plump behind, and nice smooth looking white skin, framed with lustrous dark wavy hair. Even though she said she was Thai, I did not think she sounded or really looked totally Thai and her accent seemed a little off too when she started speaking English to me. Vaguely Russian sounding or from one of the 'Stans, I thought.
After ignoring her initial entreaties and glances, I started reconsidering because she was just so sexy looking. I made her move and within 30 seconds, we were dirty dancing and making out prob in 10 minutes. This went on for quite a while until I proposed she come to my apartment. She readily agreed after we discussed prices. 2 k short time and 3 k long time. How long do you stay for LT, I inquired. Until at least noon, she said, and added you are in control.
Well, ok then. Game on. After a few smoking and toilet breaks, we started to leave but then she wanted to go to Climax for a drink. I said No and said I don't like Climax either. When we got outside BB, she tried to change her price to 4 K baht and I emphatically rejected it. This prob came about when she talked to one of the girls in the bathroom. Thick as thieves, these girls.
So we grabbed a taxi towards my place at the end of Soi 4, which necessitated passing Hillary bar. She pleaded for one drink there and finally I acquiesced. Hard to do as she was stroking my cock and offering her nipple for me to lick in the taxi. Basically, once we went inside, the wheels came off with my date. After a tequila shot or two, she disappeared in the crowd hitting up random and surprised guys, dancing with whomever on the floor. She then came over with a girl friend and offered me as a replacement for her. This girl friend was cute enough but really I was totally annoyed by how this evening was turning out. Several times I thought of leaving but finally corralled her and told her in front of her friend that I am either leaving with you or going home solo. This seemed to do the trick and I quickly got her in the taxi.
As soon she got to my apartment, the clothes came off immediately. She must have disrobed in under a minute and we headed to the shower. I quickly discovered she had an affinity for being spanked on her nice succulent ass and wanted to be spanked hard.
But, more than that, she wanted me to fuck her ass and I gladly accommodated her wishes. We went at it hard for quite a while. But this one was different, quite vocal, loved to talk dirty and was quite proficient and expressive in this subset rarely encountered with Thai girls. She also kept calling me Daddy, even asked me to slap her face when I was banging her mish. Declined on the face slapping though. Afterwards, she complained that I did not spank her ass hard enough. Afterwards she put on her clothes and said wanted to do only short time so paid her the 2 k agreed upon. However, she ended up staying another hour or so leisurely sucking my cock and balls, curling up on the bed for a time before leaving. By now, it must have been 4:30 am so don't think she was after another customer at that hour. However, we have made tentative plans for a long time session this week.
Oh, one other thing. She claims she sells cereal during the week for a regular living. The occupations these girls seem to have!Sounds like a very nice time. Truth be told, they should all perform like that. Seems you do well at BKK Beat. Sadly I just can't stomach the music or the late hour.
James Dean 2
03-26-16, 12:15
Not even remotely close to the likes of Artemis FKK, there are a few local such saunas. One such is Silom Sauna. Its in the back roads of Rama 4 in Thung Maha Mek, Sathon.
It is frequented by Korean clientS mainly but has the closest version for what you may be looking for. English is not spoken here so come prepared accordingly!
Are there any European-style sauna clubs / FKK clubs in Bangkok?
(A brothel with sauna facilities+swimming pool+small bistro+bar. You can relax, eat, and drink before you start picking up girls).
I know you can order food in some large Massage Parlors, but you will be dressing in normal clothes and is not relaxing at all, and there are no sauna or steam room in most Massage Parlors.
However, most Sauna websites I found online are gay saunas.
It's a huge cultural difference that one can be seen as a homosexual if he says he likes to go to Sauna clubs, while in Europe, Sauna clubs are heaven for heterosexual men who love young and hot girls.
Anyway, I need a Sauna which is for heterosexual men whether just to relax or to fuck working girls.
Any recommendations?
I won't quote my report again suffice to say that the evening almost ended as a complete flop. After trying and failing to get her to come with me to fulfill her commitent, I walked to the front and was standing on the sidewalk ready to head home.
But I was so annoyed I walked back in trying to figure out how to rescue the remnants of the evening. I thought briefly about taking her friend who was more than willing but instead loosely danced with her as I eyed my little trollop making a fool of her herself all over the bar. Finally, she came to the where we were standing. I think what put me over the top was my unequivocal statement that she either come with me as I was not going with her friend or I go home solo. So she sobered up just enough to agree.
I neglected to mention one other comment she made to me, when she said that she was a lesbian and liked to eat pussy. She even (drunkenly) agreed to meet me in Pattaya, where I am going soon, in order to search for prospects for us for a 3some romp. Whether that is true remains to be seen but promises like that are where legends are made.
This girl seemed especially enthusiastic and bouncy when I slipped in next to her. She was also buying her own shots, which led to considerable issues later in the evening. I will discuss that later. However, her best feature was her ample breasts, plump behind, and nice smooth looking white skin, framed with lustrous dark wavy hair. Even though she said she was Thai, I did not think she sounded or really looked totally Thai and her accent seemed a little off too when she started speaking English to me. Vaguely Russian sounding or from one of the 'Stans, I thought.
Oh, one other thing. She claims she sells cereal during the week for a regular living. The occupations these girls seem to have!I've ran into her before and had just about the same experience, great to know she is still kicking around. Think she was called Laaya, late-30's but looked a hell of a lot younger.
Doggies:
Can't PM you as you are not a member but she told me her name is MAY so you are close. I thought she was late 20's so interesting to hear her real age is more. She certainly seemed more experienced than most Thai girls I encounter here. A lot of these girls are just bluster. This girl was the real deal. It was funny but I live in a remote location near the Tobacco Monopoly plant at end of Soi 4. When she arrived at my apartment, May expressed surprised that she had never been in this part of Nana neighborhood before. Guess she has done the rounds.
What made you think it was her? Her stated occupation, my physical description, or her overall behavior?
Doggies: What made you think it was her? Her stated occupation, my physical description, or her overall behavior?It just sounds soooo familiar, certainly the shape, she is kinda Brazilian looking, Thai buddhist tattoo on back. I had much the same night you had (Bangkok Beat, Climax, pimping her other friends) but played it a bit coy, I'm mid-30's and most Thai women think I'm good looking so I alway try the freebie angle first.
Money was never discussed but she started acting crazy drunk one we got back to the hotel room, I went a bit cold on her but said she could stay over if she wanted and I wasn't interested in sex. She suddenly sobered up went and had a shower, put on on of my shirts and we chatted for an hour or so. She has a teenage boy back up north (Ubon Thani?) she said that she worked in marketing for some condo company. Wasn't until we decided to go to sleep that she was all over me. Straight away with rimming and amazing deep throat so I knew she was a pro, anyway the deeping was too much for me and I shot my load, then fell asleep. Work up next morning with killer stomach pains from Som-Tam bacteria so had to get rid of her before I could sample her further.
I'll join as a member to get her number from you if that's ok? I'm back in BKK in a couple of weeks and would certainly like to hook up.
On my way back to Europe from Cambodia I had a stopover in Bangkok. I arrived 11 am. It took 1 hour to get out from airport. I took the train to city. First a little tourist thing. I visited Jim Thompsons House. I realy love that place. Then I walked to Sukhumvit Road. A realy nice walk. I visited Dr. BJ. Nice experience. Then it was time for dinner. After dinner 2 hour at Bamboo. Nice fuck with A+. I still had a couble of hour to kill, so I walked to Soi Cowboy. Spend time in Crazy House and in Vindmill. Walked to the station and back to the airport. I was in the airport 11 pm. What a nice day in Bangkok.
BKK it is:
Working hard has its syndromes and I was fed up of Dubai. Work took me to HK: SQ and we had to wrap up our 8 year old operations in Philippines which was a very sad and disturbing day of my life. I am a very simple honest guy so unexpected losses by people who are cheat are always a set back to me as I tend to make an emotional connection with all our employees and partners in different parts of the world. Back to SQ and with a heavy heart I took a break to LOS I usually don't take an off but it was a big loss with a a lot of time and emotions were involved, rather than the money we lost a lot of face value and in our business its just face value which is most important. Landed in BKK at about 5 pm local time after finishing the work in SG and the moment I land in this city I have fond memories its been at least 2 years I haven't come here for mongering but today was the time. Check-in in to my usual suite in the Davis one of the best rooms I have stayed in my entire life, entering the room is like eternity have an instant flashback of the crazy things I have done here when I was a party animal and used to frequent BKK for work every fortnight.
Its a room which has all the tendencies of a porn movie there is jacuzzi right in the living room all women who I have brought here are crazy and want to come back again and again. Any how the pressure had built up for sex since the last few days as I don't monger in HK or SQ so was high and horny there are 2 small and cute massage joints just opposite the hotel which I frequented last time so went to the first one and the boss lady recognized me what I pimp I must have been she said boss same room in Davis with hot oil 2 hrs I was hell shocked am I so ugly women remember me instantly. Any how she sent the lady with me to my room and she started the usual massage naked in my bedroom I like this part better than the MP thing as I am comfortable in my room and relaxed. Lady was good I was horny lets say super horny the oil was hot on my legs it felt nice then she started massaging my bum cheeks from bums to asshole wow it was paradise then she started massaging my balls slowly slowly she started raising my back and started to massage more with extra oil that oil was hot insane hot not as in hot or cold but the sensations inside the bones were crazy with some menthol I think I was high and grunting she was increasing the pace very calmly raising my tempo but this oil was feeling a bit strange on my asshole and balls I was having a burning sensation but she was so good and I was fucking high I ignored she was pouring oil as if it was water and massaging like a continuous machine I have to give full marks for her massage skills I was head down and she was fully clothed and my dick wanted a release but this sensation was now taking over and I could not take it, I got up asked her to stop and make the towel wet and clean me nicely I was in pain this burning was too much I could not take it she was scared saying sorry sorry and I asked her you have another oil she said yes normal oil I was like OK and she started to massage me again but that sensation was too much she was a very nice lady got the towel wet again and again to calm my balls and asshole and she started to massage again, then she made me horny again so my mind could be taken away from the sensation and I was high in no time she changed sides from being on my back she came on a side and with one hand she started to massage my dick and one hand on my nipple and her tongue in my ear lobes Alex jr was high and higher and highest I came in no time and these massage ladies they don't stop shagging you after you have cum rather they want to secrete every drop of cum from your balls.
After that it was 1 hour of blissful massage I dozed off while she did her deed. Time over sent her off with a good tip what we pay in BKK is half what we pay for a normal massage in DXB with no extras, BKK is great. Slept like a small baby and woke up at 2:45 am in the morning with a high and hard boner the massage was showing its effect I was horny again and wanted pussy but even the stomach wanted food so went to my fav Dubai restaurant on Soi 4 most of the staff is of bamboo from Soi 3 the manager Ali, my friend Abdulla from Syria the duty manager of restaurant had left for Sweden, I was so happy for him he was a noble soul then met my fav waiter robin who is inside the Indian dance bar the only Indian dance bar in BKK as I know if there are more someone please guide the other waiter chups had gone back home so robin guided me saying Alex today is Saturday go enjoy in a club bring a lady as we are open till 7 am you can come back in 2 hrs and then 2 hrs we can have fun here OK I said forgetting about my food he suggested shock 39 so I went there.
Reached shock and its a dark dingy place I have been here but that was maybe 3 years ago when it was purely a thai joint or only an after hours place when the clubs of RCA used to close this used to get active but last night it was like a mess something like Astoria or panorama in DXB low or normal men scouting for a pussy with only a free drink in there hand not buying another drink they were in shorts flip flops stinking drunk I was surprised but I was horny so I had come here plus I have had some excellent pickups from shock in the prime days. Was not surprised or happy about the place thought twice or thrice to leave for mixx but somehow just didn't go, had a couple of drinks on an empty stomach and balls full with cum and I was feeling a bit high already but no action in the club for a Saturday night it was 4 am in the morning or maybe this club has lost its charm or maybe I am not in a good mood but somehow nothing was interesting or exciting for me took a couple of rounds of the club but nothing was exciting me so was standing near the dance floor and this CIS babe started flirting with me openly she was OK must be in her late 20's MILF nothing great but Alex jr was in charge so he gave in ordered a beer for her and she was delighted was from antalya in turkey somehow I never ask the question but I think it is the norm for everyone in a pickup club or it is a pick up line any how started chatting and she was working for a boss so I asked you stay in omni and she started laughing how I know so much about BKK when I have landed just today. One talk lead to another and another beer and we start hugging and kissing slowly on the cheeks she says is new in BKK only 20 days but I think she is a pro in fucking that is what I want tonight a hardcore fuckathalon but any how dats for later, I was in a mood for a hot Thai lady but shock had none forget hot not even warm all cold old farts in shock so we left the place for Soi 4 Dubai around 5:15 I thought will have 1 HR of comfortable music and make this babe hot with alcohol and kisses reached Soi 4 and they have just closed something to do with military, robin proudly said Alex if our club is closed it means almost all clubs have closed in BKK as we are one of the last clubs to close I said OK and ordered my tom yung kung, this place serves awesome food, has shisha and is open till 6 am or 7 am, the babe ordered her soup and drinks were also coming. I started chatting with robin about the past 2 years and somehow loose track of the babe she gets unhooked from me and as we were sitting opposite sides. It happens once the tempo is lost then you have to start all over again with women.
We eat and head home she is back to normal all the beers have gone down with the food so she is sober and a bit shy also now we reach home and instantly I start to DFK she is back, very hot and into it but not so passionate on to the bedroom DFK, BBBJ, DATY, miss, CG, rcg, doggy and she comes women like it doggy when you take your whole dick out and then put it in do this about 5-7 times and she starts to have cum farts. I was no way near and was starting to get tired as she was getting dry, she jumps back to BBBJ but I am not cuming then she starts HJ with both the hands and licks the tip of my dick man that was bliss in 5 minutes I am cumming and even she is not stopping even after I cum, I think maybe she is also a massage lady LOL back in Turkey.
Time for Jacuzzi we both head into the now filled Jacuzzi bath tub and I switch off all the lights and turn on the Jacuzzi it's a bliss full feeling after sex you are in a hot bath tub with a naked lady, she is hot over me, on my side, rubbing here and there kissing, DFK, passionately. But I am cold now I cope with her but I want to relax so I take a break take a head bath and join again in 10 minutes she is nicely enjoying her time here. She is over me wants another session I want to relax so quietly send her off to relax in the bath tub.
My hunt for exclusive Thai pussy is still on, local members have any clue if climax or insanity are the only 2 thai exclusive pick up joints as I am club guy go go and massage parlors is not my thing.
Is CM2 in the Novotel open or still close.
Which other good pick up clubs are there for exclusive hot Thai ladies kindly guide will visit and then post.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Alex
Another night, another escapade in Bangkok Beat. There was a quite bit of talent there last night including several new ones I have not seen before. I try to concentrate my efforts with this group as non P4 P can on occasion be found along with the wild cards. As it turns out, my efforts rewarded me the latter type. This girl seemed especially enthusiastic and bouncy when I slipped in next to her. She was also buying her own shots, which led to considerable issues later in the evening. I will discuss that later. However, her best feature was her ample breasts, plump behind, and nice smooth looking white skin, framed with lustrous dark wavy hair. Even though she said she was Thai, I did not think she sounded or really looked totally Thai and her accent seemed a little off too when she started speaking English to me. Vaguely Russian sounding or from one of the 'Stans, I thought.
The occupations these girls seem to have!Hey buddy
Can you tell me where is Bangkok Beat, is it near the Nana hotel I am unable to locate it .
Congrats! That's a nice use of your limited time available for Bangkok. Well planned too. Jim Thompson house is a must, in my view, when visiting Bangkok. It provides a glimpse of old Bangkok. All sites you visited and mentioned (plus airport) are easily accessible from the Sky Train.
On my way back to Europe from Cambodia I had a stopover in Bangkok. I arrived 11 am. It took 1 hour to get out from airport. I took the train to city. First a little tourist thing. I visited Jim Thompsons House. I realy love that place. Then I walked to Sukhumvit Road. A realy nice walk. I visited Dr. BJ. Nice experience. Then it was time for dinner. After dinner 2 hour at Bamboo. Nice fuck with A+. I still had a couble of hour to kill, so I walked to Soi Cowboy. Spend time in Crazy House and in Vindmill. Walked to the station and back to the airport. I was in the airport 11 pm. What a nice day in Bangkok.
CaptCabins
04-03-16, 07:05
Hi,
Does anyone know how much does a cab fair from Nana plaza to Mermaid hotel cost? Do you guys use the pink or green taxi and do the taxi use meter?
Can you tell me where is Bangkok Beat, is it near the Nana hotel I am unable to locate it .Google is your friend: http://www.thebangkokbeat.com/.
SL.
Orange Crust
04-03-16, 19:02
Google is your friend: http://www.thebangkokbeat.com/.
SL.Best way to find it is to look for the Subway Shop on Sukhumvit Rd at Soi 7/1. Just walk down towards the end of Soi and you are there. You can't miss the sound of the live band and of course all of the people.
Had a free Saturday so connected in Bangkok for Saturday. Will add more detail when I get home, but was shocked by the bar fine at Mandarin. Arrived about 10:30, settled on a girl by 11. Mamasen came over & tried to charge me 1,500 baht for 2 hour bar fine! Said it was because she was in high demand. She suggested to leer girl fee (from 2,500 to 2000) - but couldn't see penalizing the girl, so I left. Is this the new BF in Nana?
More later, but went to Thermea instead and had fantastic LT for 3,500.
Will.
Robert Long
04-03-16, 21:22
Hi,
Does anyone know how much does a cab fair from Nana plaza to Mermaid hotel cost? Do you guys use the pink or green taxi and do the taxi use meter?Not far. A Tuk-Tuk should be at most 35 baht. If you want a taxi you need to cross the street to the side headed towards The Mermaid.
RL.
Wolvenvacht
04-04-16, 07:07
Hi,
Does anyone know how much does a cab fair from Nana plaza to Mermaid hotel cost? Do you guys use the pink or green taxi and do the taxi use meter?The color of the taxis are irrelevant. And yes, in Bangkok always use the meter. Everytime a driver suggested a "fix price" it turned out to be more expensive than the meter.
Depending on the traffic, that trip should cost perhaps 50 baht. But again, never hesitate to use the meter!
Hi everyone,
A few nights ago I ended up in the African Bar, I am quite sure it was on Soi 3. Had to take an elevator to get in.
Can anyone tell me the exact address? I would like to go again and don't want to look stupid in a taxi. LOL.
Regards,
Vince
CaptCabins
04-04-16, 17:56
Had a free Saturday so connected in Bangkok for Saturday. Will add more detail when I get home, but was shocked by the bar fine at Mandarin. Arrived about 10:30
, settled on a girl by 11. Mamasen came over & tried to charge me 1,500 baht for 2 hour bar fine! Said it was because she was in high demand. She suggested to leer girl fee (from 2,500 to 2000) - but couldn't see penalizing the girl, so I left. Is this the new BF in Nana?
More later, but went to Thermea instead and had fantastic LT for 3,500.
Will.Depending on bar. For short time usually it is between 600 to 700 baht per hour. This is the second time I heard about mandarin pulling a fast one. At least you got quoted 2500 baht for st. I was quoted 3000 baht. Did you negotiate to get 2500 baht?
Billboard and Spankys gave me good rates. Rainbow is crap IMHO lots of scumbag prossies and mamasan.
Truth be told Bangkok is no VFM. I prefer FKK more hot girls and cheaper. 1 hour in Bangkok is close to 80 euros all in and only 1 pop. In FKK it is 2 pops and girls are way more hotter.
Finnish Fucker
04-04-16, 19:53
During my short stay in Bangkok 2 weeks ago I visited a couple of bars / clubs.
1. KuDeTa. This nightclub is located in 98 Sathorn Square Building, Silom. Not a good place to pick up hookers, there were mostly non-pros. Crowded with youngsters, loud and designed by a moron who has put the toilets behind the fance floor so you have to squeeze through the crowd to get there. No cover charge.
2. Spasso at Grand Hyatt hotel. I stepped in briefly, full of working girls on Wed evening asking for 6000 be and more for ST. Many ladies in their late 20's or early 30's, some nice looking ones. Did not rent any.
3. Bangkok Beat. A very brief visit. Too dark, too loud and I was too sober.
4. Thermae. Girls lined up by the wall and buyers sitting in the middle and checking the merchandise. Many asian punters and I guess the girls here prefer them. Quick fuck upstairs and 3000 be in the purse, easy money. I did not take any girls from here.
I did not have time enough to visit Levels or Climax, I guess they are the same as last year.
Had a free Saturday so connected in Bangkok for Saturday. Will add more detail when I get home, but was shocked by the bar fine at Mandarin. Arrived about 10:30, settled on a girl by 11. Mamasen came over & tried to charge me 1,500 baht for 2 hour bar fine! Said it was because she was in high demand. She suggested to leer girl fee (from 2,500 to 2000) - but couldn't see penalizing the girl, so I left. Is this the new BF in Nana?
More later, but went to Thermea instead and had fantastic LT for 3,500.
Will.The upstairs Mandarin Bar in Nana is one of the bars the has a two tiered barfine system; 700-800 baht for some of the girls and 1,500 baht for other girls that someone on their staff has determined to be "special" girls due to their looks, age, popularity, skills, who knows. I think Electric Blue Bar in Patpong has a similar system. Maybe you can tell which are which by their costume, badge style, number or something. You can just ask first, of course. The mamasan has a list of badge numbers stating which are the "special" girls. So in that sense, it isn't a scam or a trick. I mean, they aren't just making up a barfine anount for every girl on a whim or depending on the customer.
IMO, the "special" girls in Mandarin aren't exactly "Coyotes" like they are in some other bars. After all, thay ARE available for barfine, the barfine for them only jumps to about double the usual 700-800 baht rate instead of jumping from 700-800 baht to 3,000 baht (just to the bar!) as might be the case elsewhere and, as was suggested, after you pay the barfine, the money you pay the girl is comparable to what you would probably pay the regular girls.
I am adamently against the bait-and-switch Coyote scam as practiced in many venues. But I have partaken of the 'special" girl system in Mandarin Bar a few times, paid the 1,500 baht barfine and, guess what, I would have no problem doing it again almost anytime based on my previous experience with it so far.
By god, the four or five times I did pay the 700 baht greater barfine (1,500 baht) for a girl at Mandarin, the experience in my room was indeed "special" in that they turned out to be some of the sweetest, most hassle-free REAL Girlfriend Experiences I've had with a go-go girl in quite a while. Plus, those girls were hot lookers too! And you know what, if that is what I can reasonably count on to get for the extra 700 baht, I will happily pay it.
FOR SURE, your mileage may still vary just like always and I would not recommend anyone alter their usual interview process on the assumption they won't need it with one of those girls. But my experiences with a few of those "special" 1,500 baht barfine girls did not turn out to be a scam and was an additional 700 or so baht well spent in my case.
I keep hearing about these generous Norwegians. Are they all gullible or just filthy rich?Maybe working in the oil rig industry.
This is a repost of mine from another board.
I went to Crazy House the other night, *sat down,*saw a stunning pair of tits and called her down. *As soon as she sat down the waitress was there to take get her an LD (300 b) and almost the first words out of the dancer's mouth was, *are you going to BF me? *I told her not tonight, *maybe tomorrow.*The mamasan came to the table and asked the same thing. *I said no again. *The dancer downed her shot and was called to dance. I said wait a minute you just sat down. *She said I have to dance but I will return, *she said, *I promise I will come back.
Well she didn't and I didn't pay for her LD.
This is the kind of abuse you can go through if you call a lady down from the stage. *In that bar it was all about ripping as much cash as possible away from the patrons. *It was over the top.*I will cut my trip short if I continue to be treated like a sucker.
But you should of seen these tits, they were something.
How did I get out of paying for the LD?
As I sat there the amount of steam coming out of my nostrils was intensifying. *They would see my empty beer and motion me to buy another or pay and I would look at them and say bring me the manager. *The dispute portion of my time there went on for about 20 minutes,*at that point I said I would pay for the beer. *A few minutes later I received the bill for 170 b.
I'll put it mildly, the Crazy House bar is run by heartless scum and their management style will fuck the Thai bar scene up to where I can just stay home and get abused there if that's what I want. I sure as fuck don't need 14 hours of plane torture to get fucked over in Thailand when I have that a home.
There is probably a strategy for this kind of ripoff bar but pulling a lady off stage for temporary company and pay 300 b is not a good one. Maybe it was the lady or I pissed off the mamasan.
In the past I have taken 4 or 5 ladies from this place and it seems to be getting more & more cut throat as time rolls on. They have some really hot nudes there and so the general monger population is all over that place. They have outstanding talent but fuck, that doesn't give them the right to blatantly rip off welling meaning mongers. *I was blatantly lied to and cheated, I was fucking mad about it too.
The management here and in most other top gogos do not care about a monger here or there who speaks up. These bars can do what they want and they have no one to answer to. *Had they tried to force me to pay I would have said get the police.
These bars purposely do not have management available if there is a problem. I have been down this road many times but this episode was quite shocking and w / great consequences for me. If I cannot trust that a lady will spend at least 10 minutes w / me if I buy her an expensive LD then why would I ever do it again?
As I waited this situation out I watched the whole scene there w / a critical eye. The gyrating flesh, the waitresses hunting for empty beers, the mamasans sticking their noses everywhere. *Then on the other side you have this collection of sweaty mongers all trying to find some pleasure, laughing, searching, *nursing their drinks. The ladies dancing w / these blank looks on their faces as if they're at a bus stop just wanting to be gone. It wasn't pretty. It was a rip off industrial line w / top pussy on the conveyer belt.
I'll go back but if I'm smart I'll nurse a beer for an hour and just enjoy the flesh moving about the stage. There's risk in calling one down and that's what pisses me off the most. Fucking greedy fuckers run these joints and they want more and more of your money w / out giving anything in return.
I repost this here for the benefit of other ISG gogo enthusiast.
Cheers
Day 2 in BKK.
My friend robin the waiter at Bollywood dance bar in Dubai restaurant Soi 4 came to my room around 5 pm in the evening that was this Sunday and wanted to drink beer around a couple of beers and a nice hot bath in the steam and then Jacuzzi and an exceptional massage from the joint opp Davis he was sleeping like a small baby as in a mothers womb, I was working and even I took a power nap and woke up around midnight woke robin up and we both landed in climax at 1:30 am the place was still half full with live band playing with all the so called falangs in there shorts and flip flops near the band so we went at the back side of the club near the bar, I wanted to stand at a table and open a bottle of vodka to enjoy he very strictly said no and wanted to scout for a slim Thai chick I strictly said no so we just stood near the bar me gulping my drinks like shots and he just drinking his first beer.
There is some amazing Thai talent in climax reminds me of bamboo bar around 10 years ago there used to be some crazy Thai stunner there when I started my mongering in BKK same was the case in climax that night, I was having a good time standing near the bar he was upset wanted to go for a round of the club I was not interested he dragged me forcefully so we went for a round but I was least interested how do I explain him that you are a kid in hunting but I was quiet so we came at the same place and I was drinking and flirting with 3 or 4 sets of girls at various tables couple of them alone and the other with falang boyfriends but Alex's charm was at its peak, these 3 girls right next to the dance floor were standing with a tall falang in shorts drunk and chatting he had bought them a round of drinks and the ladies were openly flirting with him but when Alex goes crazy he is a beast I smiled at this cute pie she had long hair black top and jeans nice elephant tattoo on her back I smiled she smiled I raised my glass she did the same I winked she replied I called her with my eyes she left the falang and came running to me I was smiling hugged her kissed her cheeks asked her a drink gin tonic she wants winkad at the hoard of vultures I mean waiters already hovering around us she held my hand and took me to her table booed off the falang saying her boyfriend has come poor guy had a sorry face man sometimes it's a curse to be shit drunk.
The lady spoke exceptional English for a Thai lady so I understood either she is well educated or she is well bred with falangs turns out its both what a pussy, saw her other two friends one was an old fart 36 with an ex German husband with whom she lived in SG for 9 years and the other was more cuter and had bigger boobs than my lady I was like WTF she is more doable but I had chosen the lady kisses hugs smooches DFK it was all on in climax but robin was lost in the club finding pussy he came to the table saw this lady and was taken the women wanted to party in mixx so after a couple of more drinks we all went to Mixx it was about 3:00 in the morning when we landed there it was empty as compared to the crazy nights I've had in Mixx anyhow we took a table bottle of Grey Goose the club was out of Absolut what a shame or maybe smartness wtf anyhow music was worse, maybe a more degrading word but the availability of pussy was nice one side the CIS and stans and the other side only Thais same as it was couple of years ago.
We were drinking and enjoying but neither was robin contended nor were the 2 friends of my Thai lady happy all the three were like vultures roaming for prey at last robin found his prey in a silicon enhanced boobs of a Thai lady not so pretty but she was sexy as hell so he came and said Alex I want go home and fuck the brains out of her I said OK no problem gave him the keys and he was off like a cat. We paid bill and the ladies wanted to party more in spicy so we all headed for spicy at 5:00 in the mining, people are entering the club like it's a free place, its 5 in the morning and the place is packed like crazy good music I met my old security guard he was super happy to see me got us a table and the place is happening girls are dancing like crazy at the elevated dance floor it's a gay mens paradise around 5-7 gay couples all on the dance floor me and my babe had a hearty laugh and had quite a bit of fun for about an hour and half around 6:30 we came to the Thai restaurant just opposite spicy where the lady boy cashier remembers I must be super ugly, sumptuous hot spicy Thai food early morning the women are happy and contented I am happy everyone is full we return home back around 8 in the morning with the sun full on blazing. We return home and robin is sleeping like a pig all entangled with the lady after an amazing fuck he is happy me and my babe we go for a make out session she wants to be in the Jacuzzi and we both enter the already full bath tub and start to make out there she is hot and she knows how to kiss and kiss passionately she was hot super hot in kiss and we are in the hot Jacuzzi making out like teens I want to enter her but she says on bed so we come out and go for a shower together where we again make out like sliver gosh she is hot man she kisses like a film star we clean up and head to the bed.
She does not do BJ, WTFI say no BJ, I am so disappointed she puts the condom and starts rcg she is tall nice thick ass but I can feel from her pussy she is just humping me not enjoying at all 10 minutes of humping and then CG again same then miss she wants to change condoms I am like WTF again miss no fun she is not into it I am disappointed then doggy she can't take it anymore says I am too big for her, I was so upset I wanted to throw her out but deep down I am true gentleman so I said OK no problem babe she ruined the whole night any how she slept and I went in to the Jacuzzi to cool myself met robin in his room he was humping his babe for a breakfast fuck I was so tempted she had enhanced 38 dd monsters and a cute ass and even was looking super sexy moaning and taking robin fully I was so tempted robin said Alex put your dick in her mouth I just came out and jumped in the Jacuzzi gosh those scene of robin fucking her like crazy was like a porn movie, I was so high but the hot water cooled me down..
To be continued: I am high and horny writing all this:
Alex
Part 2.
This babe was hot pussy the one with robin mine was looking hot but pussy was cold and dry like a star fish so I was in the Jacuzzi thinking what to do then robin came out after his fuck and joined me in the Jacuzzi his babe had gone for a shower, he was all praise for his fuck while I was cribbing like a mother in law so we had a heart laugh and I showed courage went to my room to check on my babe and she was sleeping like a queen after an amazing night and sumptuous Thai food. I gathered the courage and entered the other room she was on the bed lying, just showered she was like a fresh flower I went and lied next to her and we started talking in 2 minutes our lips had locked and she was all over me was she still horny after an instant fuck or was I dreaming she was insatiable I was high in 5 minutes I was pumping her and she was moaning like a cat I was so fucking horny I came in no time and am panting like crazy. Quietly I come out and join robin in the Jacuzzi as if nothing happened we both laughed and laughed like crazy. Talking nasty stuff and the babe comes out naked and calls robin inside I was like WTF is she a sex machine. Had a hot bath went in robins room to take my phone and there she was all over him robin invited me and he took her doggy the babe nicely took my dick in her mouth and robin was pumping her super hard. What a scene right out of a porn movie he was humping her and I could feel her mouth with those humps on my dick oh man she was a sex goddess robin humped and pumped her hard and she did not leave my dick for a second it was as if she was being charged at two points pussy and mouth robin came but I was no where near as I had just came but I was hard like a rock and she kept on sucking and sucking, she wanted me to continue from where robin had stopped I had no energy.
Robin went to the bathroom and I kept the money we agreed multiplied by 2 she was very happy hugged and kissed me, I thanked her in typical Thai style hands folded head down and she did the same very respectfully. Came out and ordered food as we all were hungry checked on my babe she is up, I act like a dutiful BF ask her food she like a queen says Alex I want nice massage inside my head I want throw her out but outside I am very calm and quiet order for the same massage lady for her and she is happy. In the other room robin wants to bring his Uzbek GF, he told me she is a sugar mother to him and he is a sugar baby she gives him X amount every month so he can fuck her like a man and also gifts and in a day or so she will gift him an Iphone we both again laugh like silly stupid school kids. So robin tells the lady to dress up and I set up the massage lady in my room for my girl she is enjoying like a queen with her masseur who is an awesome women so my lady is lying naked in our room getting a nice oil massage and I tell the masseur to give her 2 hrs of bliss she is happy my lady is happy and my dick is happy, I leave them in the room close the door and head towards robins room he has already left for to see his GF and the Thai lady is in bathroom dressing up I go to say bye to her and she is looking pornolicious. 4" red high heels short very sexy denim dress tight top super sexy cleavage I was high hugged her to say bye we generally kissed on lips as a complimentary gesture I opened my mouth she was expecting that and maybe she was ready ohhh we smooched non stop, I turned her around and you can see the road and the square from the bathroom down its just 4th floor not high, I just slid her panties away and I was in Thai-land man it went like a butter knife, the thrill of all these people down and my lady in another room was incredible this lady was hot and sex goddess and I was happy. From the bathroom I picked her and brought her to the bed closed and locked the door and she was naked in a flash with only the red high heels she took over was on me an pumping like a tigress, went off and she started BBBJ and in a flash again on me she was wet I was hard and high and we both were in a lust she came in a flash all her body shocking like an electric current I was not done.
I took over bent her over and started pumping her she was in a rhythm with my dick, I was in a mood for a marathon she was into me, I took her hand and back in bathroom she was naked my pajama was just half down she started sucking me like a vacuum she was bold brave naked and in a mood to fuck one of the best blowjobs it was she sucked and sucked and I came inside her mouth not a minute she stopped and not a drop did she waste like an obedient sex goddess. I was completely exhausted and she was just smiling came out gave her a child beer and she nicely jumped in the bed naked with the beer. What a sight it was I came back and checked on my lady she was face down enjoin her massage, I flirted with her a bit it was awesome when you are relaxed and are in no mood to fuck a female you look and behave with her in an altogether different style only.
I was done now and wanted some peace and my time so I sent everyone as in everyone and just dozed off in my room. When robin came with his Uzbek mama and what they did I don't know I just told him not to disturb me. I slept like eternity and woke up at 3 am with missed calls and tons of msgs.
To be continued.
Fun Filled
04-05-16, 13:35
Master Alex welcome to BKK.
After getting numbers of petitioners and info from you at DBX forum its time to pay back Just try Club Spaso at Hayat all the girls are available there. What I like aoput Spaso is all the girls are nicely dressed up more over the drinks price are bit high as compared to Shock or climax so the class of people is also Better.
If you wanted to take your chances just try club Levels at Sukhumvit Soi 11 past midnight. At levels you might find some gems but that is all about luck cause all Girl are not working there some of them are just there to party with friends. After 3 Just walk in to club Wax at Soi 11, this is the only after hour club at Soi 11.
Just Walk in there after 3 AM. As you know Mixx is also a good choice after 3 Am. Quality of people visiting shock, bossy, spicy have gone down like any thing. These clubs have No face check policy they have become like low end clubs. The last club to close is swing its very small and dark after after hour club open At 5:30 AM and close around 11 AM depending on the crowed.
Just ask any taxi driver about it and they will take you there. On weekend its pack to its capacity noting great about this club but no harm trying if you not able to find what you looking for till 5 in morning, more over the Thai food joint below this club is also open till 9 in morning it serve amazing food.
CM2 was closed long time back for renovation not sure they have opened it or not.
Hope I am able to offer you some insight. Show must go on.
Just waiting for your next report.
BKK it is:
Working hard has its syndromes and I was fed up of Dubi. Work took me to HK: SQ and we had to wrap up our 8 year old operations in Philippines which was a very sad and disturbing day of my life. I am a very simple honest guy so unexpected losses by people who are cheat are always a set back to me as I tend to make an emotional connection with all our employees and partners in different parts of the world. Back to SQ and with a heavy heart I took a break to LOS I usually don't take an off but it was a big loss with a a lot of time and emotions were involved, rather than the money we lost a lot of face value and in our business its just face value which is most important. Landed in BKK at about 5 pm local time after finishing the work in SG and the moment I land in this city I have fond memories its been at least 2 years I haven't come here for mongering but today was the time. Check-in in to my usual suite in the Davis one of the best rooms I have stayed in my entire life, entering the room is like eternity have an instant flashback of the crazy things I have done here when I was a party animal and used to frequent BKK for work every fortnight.
Its a room which has all the tendencies of a porn movie there is jacuzzi right in the living room all women who I have brought here are crazy and want to come back again and again. Any how the pressure had built up for sex since the last few days as I don't monger in HK or SQ so was high and horny there are 2 small and cute massage joints just opposite the hotel which I frequented last time so went to the first one and the boss lady recognized me what I pimp I must have been she said boss same room in Davis with hot oil 2 hrs I was hell shocked am I so ugly women remember me instantly. Any how she sent the lady with me to my room and she started the usual massage naked in my bedroom I like this part better than the MP thing as I am comfortable in my room and relaxed...
Day 2 part III.
3 Am in the morning life comes to a stand still in DXB but this is BKK baby I showered dressed and was in Bollywood by 4:30 and the place was OK not full not empty for a Monday night. Robin was damn happy to see me he brought the absolute bottle and gave me a good table just nice to have a clear view of the ladies, the LU was not so great but still OK OK only 1 or 2 doable babes or watchful babes as there is no takeout from here in BKK can you believe it, even in DXB all most all dance bar babes go out its only that you need to be a high roller but here not possible so its only looking no touching and forget fucking. Couple of drinks later I was high what is happening to my capacity in BKK either the absolute is different or maybe something else but I was getting drunk pretty soon anyhow enjoyed the music and played a couple of songs from my taste Mirchi style it was full on fun when you listen to your music in foreign land. Around 6 they were closing the dance bar as no one was ordering songs so I paid and headed to spicy, I was there last night so it was OK landed there and spicy is closed and swing above the restaurant is open, it's a dark dingy place I remember but it's the only club open till 9 am yes guys 9 am drunk falang young backpackers visit here with there muses or looking for pussy so you can have diamonds once in a pink moon. The moment I went up my security guy was also here he is so happy to see me free beers and a goo tip keeps him happy and all the drunkards away from me, plus the girls understand someone special is here in no time I had a Thai pussy on my I mean she was smooching me in the club the best part about swing is it is so dark you can do loads of naughty stuff LOL and I mean naughty stuff its BKK my friends.
Shooed her away and the security is helping me look for a gal with his torch in pitch black darkness LOL its crazy second Thai lady is on me what was happening I dint know maybe the security guy was telling gals or whatever, shoo this one also off then a Uzbek chick she is a bit sober but she also rubs her boobs on me was in no mood for CIS then again a Thai lady she is dressed like a hip hop star and is drunk order a beer for her she is all over me smooching non-stop my hands are all over her her hand is fixed on my dick no other place man I thought she is high and horny like I am. We dance for a while but she is no mood for dance she wants to fuck and only fuck I am high and horny after the Indian songs so off we go back home and she is all over in the taxi, I am trying to control her but she is unstoppable she wanted to pull out my dick in the taxi only I was smiling and the taxi guy was looking in the rear view mirror with all anger. LOL we reached home and robin also landed with his sugar mama in maybe 10 seconds later, my babe was sloshed by the time we were in room and I came to washroom and then talk with robin for a couple of minutes came back and she was fast asleep, nicely tucked her in the bed and let her sleep. 1 more fucking gone down I thought came out and took a nice 1 hour in Jacuzzi then a shower its makes you hungry so went for breakfast. Spent a good 1 HR there also came back and started to work around 5 in the evening I was tired of non stop working and came to bed to rest for a while my hand touched the babe and she was hot I just touched her faced and she just came on me it was like my touch gave her life man was she hot she smooches crazy two Thai babes two nights both of them smooch 100% perfect thanks and a big shout out to my falang fuckers our Indian Paki brigade don't even know what is a DFK they only know is lips touching LOL pity on us.
This babe and we started to make out she was hot horny and it was a case of morning wood or whatever but it was cool what followed was 30 minutes of super sex she was so tight super fucking tight reminded of my Philli girl from ratsky same was her very tight but it was fun she wanted to fuck so we were at it like rabbits. After sex she took a shower and slept again what a life I was working and robin woke in a while so we started chatting and planning for tonight. Babe also woke up after a while and wanted to make out again I was not in a mood. She wanted to stay but I wanted some time with robin and then work and ISG all together and some time alone my peace so I sent all of them.
Plans for tonight:
Spasso:
CM2 :
Bollywood:
Mixx:
Cheers,
Alex
Roger Sideways
04-05-16, 17:23
Sone sort of police crackdown in Bangkok tonight. Dr BJ Nuru was raided and closed by the cops and the rest of the Soi was in a right state. I spent the early part of the evening at Magic Table and for most of the time I was the only customer and playing pool with the girls in their street clothes. At one stage I thought I was going to have to barfine the whole crew (4 of them) and they were certainly all all over me like a rash. But later things quietnened down and I had a very happy session with just two.
Then later while recovering with a couple of beers back at one of the bars outside Nana there were suddenly police everywhere and all the girls in the Nana car park disappeared.
Anyone know what is going on?
This is a repost of mine from another board.
I went to Crazy House the other night, *sat down,*saw a stunning pair of tits and called her down. *As soon as she sat down the waitress was there to take get her an LD (300 b) and almost the first words out of the dancer's mouth was, *are you going to BF me? *I told her not tonight, *maybe tomorrow.*The mamasan came to the table and asked the same thing. *I said no again. *The dancer downed her shot and was called to dance. I said wait a minute you just sat down. *She said I have to dance but I will return, *she said, *I promise I will come back.
Well she didn't and I didn't pay for her LD.
(MAJOR SNIP)
I'll go back but if I'm smart I'll nurse a beer for an hour and just enjoy the flesh moving about the stage. There's risk in calling one down and that's what pisses me off the most. Fucking greedy fuckers run these joints and they want more and more of your money w / out giving anything in return.
I repost this here for the benefit of other ISG gogo enthusiast.
CheersThanks for the report and thanks again for demanding a refund and standing your ground until you got it. As an aside, you mentioned if they insisted you pay for the Lady Drink hustle scam the girl pulled you would say call the police. Very uncertain how that would have turned out since I believe Crazy House is at least partially owned by a highly placed policeman or two or three.
Crazy House used to be one of the better bars to meet and barfine worthwhile hotties in Bangkok. Now it is one of the worst. I know several of the best girls who used to dance there when great P4 P experiences was what it was all about, a couple of years ago. But they left to work elsewhere because they hated the mamsans, hated the management, even hated the constant Lady Drink hustle they were required to engage in.
So who is left among the majority of girls still working at Crazy House or newer ones comfortable with the system? Why, girls who just LOVE the Lady Drink hustle, enjoy the scams and never had the least bit of interest in delivering quality P4 P experiences in the first place, that's who.
Can you still stumble upon an exception? Sure. I have. But when you do you can almost count on such an exception being gone in a matter of a few weeks if not a few days.
MusicalToM
04-05-16, 22:03
The management here and in most other top gogos do not care about a monger here or there who speaks up. These bars can do what they want and they have no one to answer to.
These bars purposely do not have management available if there is a problem. I have been down this road many times but this episode was quite shocking and w / great consequences for me. If I cannot trust that a lady will spend at least 10 minutes w / me if I buy her an expensive LD then why would I ever do it again?
As I waited this situation out I watched the whole scene there w / a critical eye. The gyrating flesh, the waitresses hunting for empty beers, the mamasans sticking their noses everywhere. *Then on the other side you have this collection of sweaty mongers all trying to find some pleasure, laughing, searching, *nursing their drinks. The ladies dancing w / these blank looks on their faces as if they're at a bus stop just wanting to be gone. It wasn't pretty. It was a rip off industrial line w / top pussy on the conveyer belt.
CheersIf one will go few pages back then one can find a lot of related reports like this involving Crazy House in it. I've not been to Crazy House and wouldn't like to try after reading all these BS stuff about them.
However in my recent trip I checked out Baccara and IMO they act exactly opposite to Crazy House. Although I was asked to buy a drink straightaway even before entering but no one bothered me thereafter. I saw all cool mamsans over there, the girls were very cool too. The funny thing was, a Japanese client asked one mamsan to lift the tiny skirt of a girl so that he could see the bare ass of her, to which the mamsan obliged quickly. I was seating right there when all these happenings were happening and quite enjoying too.
May be you should go to Baccara in your next.
Eric Swiss
04-06-16, 03:31
Sone sort of police crackdown in Bangkok tonight. Dr BJ Nuru was raided and closed by the cops and the rest of the Soi was in a right state. I spent the early part of the evening at Magic Table and for most of the time I was the only customer and playing pool with the girls in their street clothes. At one stage I thought I was going to have to barfine the whole crew (4 of them) and they were certainly all all over me like a rash. But later things quietnened down and I had a very happy session with just two.
Then later while recovering with a couple of beers back at one of the bars outside Nana there were suddenly police everywhere and all the girls in the Nana car park disappeared.
Anyone know what is going on?I wouldn't be surprised if it's because today is Chakri day. Does anybody remember if they close Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy on Chakri day? I also read somewhere that all wine stores would be closed, although it's too early to confirm.
ScaredOfLuv
04-06-16, 03:45
If one will go few pages back then one can find a lot of related reports like this involving Crazy House in it. I've not been to Crazy House and wouldn't like to try after reading all these BS stuff about them.
However in my recent trip I checked out Baccara and IMO they act exactly opposite to Crazy House. Although I was asked to buy a drink straightaway even before entering but no one bothered me thereafter. I saw all cool mamsans over there, the girls were very cool too. The funny thing was, a Japanese client asked one mamsan to lift the tiny skirt of a girl so that he could see the bare ass of her, to which the mamsan obliged quickly. I was seating right there when all these happenings were happening and quite enjoying too.
May be you should go to Baccara in your next.Thanks for the info I'll be there in 5 days hope to see some board members.
Master Alex welcome to BKK.
After getting numbers of petitioners and info from you at DBX forum its time to pay back Just try Club Spaso at Hayat all the girls are available there. What I like aoput Spaso is all the girls are nicely dressed up more over the drinks price are bit high as compared to Shock or climax so the class of people is also Better.
If you wanted to take your chances just try club Levels at Sukhumvit Soi 11 past midnight. At levels you might find some gems but that is all about luck cause all Girl are not working there some of them are just there to party with friends. After 3 Just walk in to club Wax at Soi 11, this is the only after hour club at Soi 11.
Just Walk in there after 3 AM. As you know Mixx is also a good choice after 3 Am. Quality of people visiting shock, bossy, spicy have gone down like any thing. These clubs have No face check policy they have become like low end clubs. The last club to close is swing its very small and dark after after hour club open At 5:30 AM and close around 11 AM depending on the crowed..Many thanks for your advice mate, Spasso it was last night and the place feels high end, I wonder what those Gentleman's club would feel like.
Need your advice on that also. Which one to start from. I speak no Thai: Nit Noi:
If babes were nicely dressed here so what would be the scene in Gentleman's clubs must be young hotties there I think and some top class Thai babes as they cater to local men.
Urgent assistance needed.
SOS.
Banana Boi
04-06-16, 05:26
Not sure if this has been posted before but just in case wanted to warn that Levels disco does not allow entry to anyone under 20. The girl I took was 19 and she was not able to get in.
We went to The Club and West 99 (?) in Khaosan Road area instead and had fun on a recent weekend. West 99 had no farang. All Thai.
Thick Thai Lady:
Sending everyone away, I had a peaceful time for a couple of hours and then landed in Bollywood on Soi 4 at about 12:30 the place was dead so now it seems it gets alive only around 1:30 till 5 am I suppose or maybe even late when other clubs close and then many men come here with there ladies in tow to relax and listen music and enjoy the food outside. I have to say the food is exceptional much better than the restaurant at spicy something like bamboo, I used to enjoy the food at bamboo a lot it had ME food, Turkish and Thai all mix so its kinda same. Even if you don't want to go in club you can just sit out and enjoy shisha and food a lot of Arab guys and families were there when I entered around midnight.
Listen to some songs and a couple of drinks later I am ready to go to CM2 to checkout if the place is back in action or not but half way change my mood and go to Spasso the oldest club in BKK and they say one of the classiest Thai ladies are found here plus one of the forum members suggested so I went. The place is classy instead with only Thai ladies in wide variety not at all young all between 25-40 but dressed nicely as they class with wine in there hands in those crazy big wine glasses. Stood by the bar and this hot bartender starts to flirt with me when I tip her the first 100 and then another drink and another tip the ladies start to feel the attention of Alex in the house about 500 bht more in tips here and there and a couple of vodka shots down the women start to find me attractive and the falangs next to me at the bar also start to be pally, LOL what magic money does on everyone a bit far away I see this tall beautiful Thai lady, I am 5"9-10" and she was taller than me I could see her easily towering over all these small tiny Thai ladies and equal to the taller men in action.
Smiles exchanged from far off and I just raise my glass so does she with water in her hand, I ask her drink she just nods her eyes I wink the bartender he goes and takes her order she is happy and quietly walks towards me, dressed in black top and black leggings not even an inch of flesh on show she is a diva in my eyes what I like absolutely perfect 10 just a bit fat but that's OK I am fat like a football myself tall must be 5"10 at least 1 " taller than me I look down she is wearing a very small heel almost minimal very thick big tight ass nice 36 see boobs flawless face cat eyed lenses she came to say thanks for the drink and I just hugged her she hugged back we were together from there. Enjoyed the music with her kisses light not so much but I could feel her and she was tight super tight I was surprised it cannot be silicon all the way, if this is Thai beauty then I am ready to go to gentleman's clubs its time to upgrade for these beauties absolutely sexy these Thai babe was, she had me taken I was trying to stay calm and quiet but when Jr. Thinks you can only pray it was uncontrollable, babe wanted to go home I wanted party and acted a bit like a newbie she took me to Mixx upon entering when we took a table and she saw the half vodka bottle of previous night she understood she was with a high roller and no cheap Charlie falang. Mixx was fun there are some super hot women to be had from here, should go for a night out of hunting here and not with a lady the music sucks or maybe the music of smoking room side sucks I dunno, anyhow we had about an hour in mix and some super hot Thai babes came and said Hi to my babe so I think I am in right company of a good experience hooker: LOL.
From Mixx we shifted to Bollywood at about 4 in the morning and the place was buzzing with people and music like an Indian night club good to see falangs also come for a beer with there GF's and enjoying Indian dance and gazing over Indian women variety is the spice of life I should say. If there is availability of Indian, Arabic and Latin women in BKK like the stans and CIS women I suppose traffic in BKK will increase by 50 % for sure. I can bet a million on that but that's to be discussed sometime else, my babe was gone now she was acting like a dutiful thai GF making my drinks not letting robin even touch anything and serving me, we were in the dance bar for 1 HR and she is hungry I am hungry so we come and sit out for food in the restaurant, I should say in food I give this place a perfect 10 at 5 in the morning hot sumptuous food and super service. After food we head home and me and the babe are making out she takes over the lead now does everything takes off my shoes clothes everything, in the Jacuzzi she is all over me puts some shampoo on her boobs and does the massage part she is super charged and too much of a pleaser I am taken by her looks and now service and also her body is flawless an ass to die for I should say and super tight she is 33 and so hot I cannot believe have met Thai and Stani women at 21 they are loose and this one is super tight. I am just a mute guy she is smooching rubbing from the Jacuzzi to the bed and she has my dick in her mouth in a flash, one of most amazing BBBJ I've ever had with she only looking in my eyes all the time, I am now simply lost in her eyes she is a hardened pro but for me she is GF material would keep her with me and no need to fuck every night just with me and have babies with her class she is. In no time I am coming maybe 10 minutes max. Alex is the prey tonight.
Back on the bed we kiss like lovers and she is ready for round two I am not but tonight I am the prey, excellent BBBJ skills with BL with AR, I am under her control she can anything to me tonight and I say anything when she rolls over the condom I don't even know and she is on me CG she is totally I and control I am just a hooker tonight with her man [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) her continuously, man she is in total control CG, RCG, MISS, Doggy, again CG when she finally comes and I am only panting. We both sleep in each others arms like long lost lovers am woken after an hour or so by phone robin wants to join I shoo him off and go back in my lovers arms she is also up and wants to go home to take off her lenses and then sleep, OK I say, exchange no she wants to meet again tonight I am nobody to say no.
Drop her down to the taxi like a obedient wife and off she goes leaving fond memories in me.
I have no words to express my desire for her.
Adios amigos.
Alex.
Fun Filled
04-06-16, 09:23
Nice to know you had fun and enjoyed the night at Spaso. Mate no idea about Gentleman club, I have never tried. I am more club guy like you so restricting my self to clubs only. How was the talent at Bollywood? Is it worth visiting at morning alone for some pick-up?
Many thanks for your advice mate, Spasso it was last night and the place feels high end, I wonder what those Gentleman's club would feel like.
Need your advice on that also. Which one to start from. I speak no Thai: Nit Noi:
If babes were nicely dressed here so what would be the scene in Gentleman's clubs must be young hotties there I think and some top class Thai babes as they cater to local men.
Urgent assistance needed.
SOS.
I'm doing a bit of academic research into the P4 P scene in Bangkok, particularly as it relates to business and (micro) economics. I'm primarily interested into your experiences with determining how much you will pay, and negotiations concerning this.
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Nice to know you had fun and enjoyed the night at Spaso. Mate no idea about Gentleman club, I have never tried. I am more club guy like you so restricting my self to clubs only. How was the talent at Bollywood? Is it worth visiting at morning alone for some pick-up?So man which other clubs for pickups. Update here and I will start trying but should be pickup clubs. I am not young and not a falang. LOL.
I am about to begin my SE mongering expedition, I had just one thing on my mind, I request people to suggest some good places (oilies / P4P) where they accept payment from Credit Card.
Thick Thai Lady:
half way change my mood and go to Spasso the oldest club in BKK and they say one of the classiest Thai ladies are found here plus one of the forum members suggested so I went. The place is classy instead with only Thai ladies in wide variety not at all young all between 25-40 but dressed nicely as they class with wine in there hands in those crazy big wine glasses. Stood by the bar and this hot bartender starts to flirt with me when I tip her the first 100 and then another drink and another tip the ladies start to feel the attention of Alex in the house about 500 bht more in tips here and there and a couple of vodka shots down the women start to find me attractive and the falangs next to me at the bar also start to be pally, LOL what magic money does on everyone a bit far away I see this tall beautiful Thai lady, I am 5"9-10" and she was taller than me I could see her easily towering over all these small tiny Thai ladies and equal to the taller men in action.
How much did you for this girl mate?
Member #4698
04-07-16, 04:21
I am about to begin my SE mongering expedition, I had just one thing on my mind, I request people to suggest some good places (oilies / P4P) where they accept payment from Credit Card.All the Soapies I know plus Crazy House & Baccara Go Go's accept CC's but add 2 to 5 percent. They will inform customers of this surcharge ahead of time so you make the decision. Addicts also accepts CC's and I do not remember them charging a surcharge.
I'm doing a bit of academic research into the P4 P scene in Bangkok, particularly as it relates to business and (micro) economics. I'm primarily interested into your experiences with determining how much you will pay, and negotiations concerning this.
If anyone would be willing to answer some questions, I've made a simple survey here:
http://goo.gl/forms/HZednRQWam
And if anyone would be interested in reading some of the eventual findings, you can send me a message.Mod: I suggest this post and this person be deleted.
Wolvenvacht
04-07-16, 07:12
I am about to begin my SE mongering expedition, I had just one thing on my mind, I request people to suggest some good places (oilies / P4P) where they accept payment from Credit Card.The only place I ever paid with a credit card was at Eden Club, but that can hardly be called an "oilie": it is a plain brothel specializing in threesomes.
Wolvenvacht
04-07-16, 07:15
Mod: I suggest this post and this person be deleted.Would you care to elaborate on that?
Eric Swiss
04-07-16, 07:16
I had a weird experience with a girl named Ploy from Baccara. She was all over me, until fucking time came, and then she was terrible in the sack. I had to pay her to eject because I wanted to keep my seed for a more worthy girl.
I went to Climax and found an old flame, also named Ploy by some strange coincidence, but I did not want to repeat, so I walked down Soi 11 to the little alley near Villa Market. It has girls on the sidewalk who can drag you into a "regular" massage shop and get naughty. Earlier in the evening I had noticed a smoking hot one there, tall, skinny, with short black hair, but unfortunately she wasn't there. I'll have to sample her some other time.
Anyway there was an attractive girl there named Yaan. She led me into a shop on the right past completely normal customers into a tiny cubicle with a bed. She gave me an excellent massage. She knows what she's doing with her hands. Not like the girls at Addict. After the flip, she asked if I wanted a "special". HJ was 500 and FS 2000. I picked HJ because I couldn't be bothered to go through the whole rigmarole and just wanted a nice ejaculation.
That she delivered. She even stuck one finger up my ass to make the feeling more intense. What a talented girl.
All in all, I recommend. I think it's just so cool that this also operates as a normal place. It just feels very mischevious. Also the anticipation of what she would do to arouse me so I would take the special, while still pretending to give a regular oil massage. I love the ambiguity. Would I repeat? Not with her, but with the other girl I've had my eyes on.
Eric Swiss
04-07-16, 07:20
Would you care to elaborate on that?That's the kind of trick Anonymous or USAID would run to harvest IP addresses and doxx everybody.
I went to Climax and found an old flame, also named Ploy by some strange coincidence, but I did not want to repeat, so I walked down Soi 11 to the little alley near Villa Market. It has girls on the sidewalk who can drag you into a "regular" massage shop and get naughty. Earlier in the evening I had noticed a smoking hot one there, tall, skinny, with short black hair, but unfortunately she wasn't there. I'll have to sample her some other time.
All in all, I recommend. I think it's just so cool that this also operates as a normal place. It just feels very mischevious. Also the anticipation of what she would do to arouse me so I would take the special, while still pretending to give a regular oil massage. I love the ambiguity. Would I repeat? Not with her, but with the other girl I've had my eyes on.I have reported on the little massage shops next to Villa Market before. The girls are there 24 hours. I often stay near there at Grand President on Soi 11 and take girls to my hotel from there. I have had many nights saved when I couldn't find a suitable girl elsewhere and picked one up from these massage shops.
How much did you for this girl mate?Buddy 3100 bht is the standard I am giving to every lady in this trip, when its time to go in the morning I quietly slip in her purse and make her feel its been done.
Not even once has any lady complained and rather wanted to be despo to be with me.
This room is magic for me I tell you, its expensive as for BKK standards but its worth it, very private, pure GFE and the best part we have in house Starbucks.
Enjoy.
I have reported on the little massage shops next to Villa Market before. The girls are there 24 hours. I often stay near there at Grand President on Soi 11 and take girls to my hotel from there. I have had many nights saved when I couldn't find a suitable girl elsewhere and picked one up from these massage shops.I just wanted to add for others not as familiar with the area that there is a strip of those kind of Happy Ending massage shops in the arcade that runs along next to Villa Market, those are the 24 hour shops, AND there are more Happy Ending massage shops even further down that arcade, go all the way back to the last one, take a quick left and right to a true sub-soi / alley that connects Soi 11 with Soi 13. Most of those are not 24 hours though. They close around 10-11 PM.
HJs and fully covered FS would probably be commonplace in all those shops. But my experience with trying to get even one out of, say, 20 or more different girls working in any of those shops next to Villa Market or around the corner to the small sub-soi over the past couple of years to agree to and actually perform a BBBJ with a proper CIM finish either in the shops' cubicles or barfine take out to a Short Time room has been abysmal. In fact, that is exactly what the ratio has been for me; 1 out of 23 girls working in that area that I either discretely asked before committing, discretely asked after committing, or was told at some point along the way that it would be done but at crunch time was NOT done. Only 1 out of that many actually DID it. And she no longer works there. LOL.
But that is my abysmal record for getting those particular massage shop girls to actually deliver a BBBJ CIM. Your mileage may and, I hope, will vary.
I live in the area and shop in Villa Market quite a bit. Also often have reason to walk to and from Soi 11 and Soi 13 by way of that small sub-soi at the end of the arcade. So I have had ample opportunity to encounter those shop girls, be nearly tackled by them, clawed at by them, begged by them etc. to please please please hire them to "take care everything for you, anything you want". That is when I have discretely asked the big question about BBBJ CIM and the overwhelmingly typical answer there (to me, that is) is a definite NO. And when a precious few of them actually said "yes", all but one was lying about it at crunch time.
Eric Swiss
04-07-16, 10:26
I just wanted to add for others not as familiar with the area that there is a strip of those kind of Happy Ending massage shops in the arcade that runs along next to Villa Market, those are the 24 hour shops, AND there are more Happy Ending massage shops even further down that arcade, go all the way back to the last one, take a quick left and right to a true sub-soi / alley that connects Soi 11 with Soi 13. Most of those are not 24 hours though. They close around 10-11 PM.24 hours, really? I always thought there was nothing in Bangkok if I need to get laid at, say, 8 am or 9 am. But apparently this could be the ultimate cure for morning wood.
But that is my abysmal record for getting those particular massage shop girls to actually deliver a BBBJ CIM. Your mileage may and, I hope, will vary.Funnily enough, Yaan offered HJ and FS, but BJ was not on the menu. This makes no sense. When I enquired specifically, she pretended she did not understand. What self-respecting Thai hooker does not understand "blow job"?
Robin was home and started drinking beer in two hours he was sloshed and hungry and the tall thick lady of morning was constantly messaging me she wanted to meet up again and come home for dinner and some nice time. So me and robin went down to eat at this nice boutique restaurant next to Davis, I can bet it has the best chicken wings in BKK, KFC tastes shit in front of this place even the fries are super nice some days they make fries with sweet potato, its just awesome the babe joins half way and man she is looking hot in a super small shorts with those thick legs I was high already, robin wanted to do her he was like Alex, please I beg you only once I want be inside her robin is 5'5 she is 5'10 it was so hilarious eating chicken wings and lychee's ice tea and talking crap babe was hot raising the tempo she was making me high as in horny pure GFE it was openly kissing and smooching I was not able to control and as the place is just down our hotel I was in my Nike sports thick pajamas without underwear and she made me so horny touching and feeling my hard on was visible and this babe was caressing it from top in the restaurant, it was laughter all over me and Robin were laughing like school kids and she was also smirking but not stopping I was babe please she was like Alex I want you, I want you sex with me now I was again laughing on top. Paid bill and I adjust my dick with great skills and we reach home, babe leads my hand and in the bedroom she has awesome BBBJ skills and I am sky high she was sucking me as it was her life support system, I was high and was about to cum so I push her to the bed raise her skirt and start DATY gosh she is wet not wet leaking wet she is huge mind it and her hand on the back of my head pushing me deep down I felt a bit like a slave but I was super high enter her in miss and in 10 minutes we both are coming and panting like crazy absolute pure bliss it is to be on a female who is so awesome. We are kissing for quite a while even after cumming then I have my shower and she is in the Jacuzzi relaxing, we all get ready and head towards MBK for some shopping.
Robin buys a t-shirt she also buys one, robin buys another she goes for her make up shopping me and robin are looking for a t-shirt for me and he is openly flirting with the sales girls, this guy is a player man I am so surprised looks like a teenager but is a big time humper. So robin goes for work and me and babe enjoy these Thai food stalls outside mbk, man I am so happy to be with these people what happiness it is to sit with them and eat tasty fresh food at 30-60 bht I am like this is real Thailand. I was so happy and contented that I wanted to sleep with this amazing chica back home her friends call her and they have to meet at Spasso, you never hear a no from my side. Off she goes and I start to work again around 12 enough of work I want go out for a drink but to a new place. So head off towards CM2 in the siam square its time for some CIS pussy I feel or if I can find an odd Colombian lets see, upon reaching the hotel I see no taxi around, no people going in or coming out even the entrance from outside was dark so I didn't bother to even get down from the taxi and told the taxi guy climax. Reached and the place was empty not full but the band is impressive full marks for the guys I go to my usual place at the back side.
On the way to climax the taxi took the back street so I saw some very happening places, some nice bars on soi 11 , I think it's a very happening place also saw Oskar it was jam packed no place to sit over there, needs to be checked out I think, if anyone has checked it out do post a report or some reviews back in climax things were slow so I was happy with my drinks like water, the vultures ie the waiters are happy staying with me all the time at least 2 of them so this lady from the front of the club comes and start to dance with me drinks ordered and she starts to twerk on me dry hump another drink and then I see this very sexy African babe super slim and an ass tight with actual figures being 32:24:38 man she was in a red lipstick and super sexy but was with a fucking falang. This babe gets super upset on seeing me eye the black lady, I need to hump this African without fail man she is hot and so doable. In the meanwhile this normal lady big boobs nice dress is watching me from the mirror I am looking at her since long she has thick big black bold beautiful eyes, has a nice ass is a bit fat I can see but for me its acceptable, I could sense she is watching me since long even while I was smooching this Thain (new word for Thai chicks: Robin taught me) so this Thain goes off with anger I am cool another round of drinks but now at a table relaxing a bit just next to this African and right at the back of this Thain a bit plump one. She and me we are flirting from the mirror she is game ask her a drink and she walks over to my table speaks English with an accent so in my mind it is the same view she has been humped by a falang since long time, good news she has been blacked, I was like WTF with a baby 5 yr old daughter man but she was classy I was already horny so a couple of drinks later she is drunk and tells me please Alex no more drinks I have a car to drive back home, I said my home or your home we both burst out in laughter and the lips meet she is an awesome kisser I said babe lets go clubbing one club I take you of your choice and one club we go of my choice she is game and says you first as she is into hip hop and rnb and no way she will like my club so eventually we will have to go her club I am like cool. We head towards Bollywood its 2 or maybe 3 in the morning I don't remember as I was a bit drunk but alas still OK not sloshed, place was buzzing tonight loads of people must be 3 am yes now I remember we were given our usual table and there were people all around and in 10 minutes more people were coming in it was getting crowded this was fun I thought my babe was in a shock super shock.
I think its an awesome combo this club after you have your pickup come here have some more drinks enjoy your own Indian music order some songs of your choice cozy up with your babe with more alcohol and some making out on the sofa couches make her hot and make her feel special if you want GFE, just my advice so last night was jam packed and super fun, my babe was shocked surprised in awe. The place was packed with a bunch of punters lets say 10 punters or groups including me only 3 soft or less prone to craziness of a dance bar rest all super crazy and in 10 minutes things were hot. Song request after song request the dance floor was full of money 5-10 k bht on each song was flowing and babe had her mouth open with so much money around she was in a state of shock, I changed her drink to simple water so she returns to reality but it was pure bliss in Bollywood last night awesome music crazy people, I think the best time is after 2 am: Lets say 2-5 am peak hours. Even I requested a couple of no's and the babe was made to do the honors she was in sky, I had some smooches after the songs. We were out at 5 for dinner and she is again taken back by the food at this time and its taste absolutely awesome is the word, we tried lamb chops delicious she said. 6 we went climax picked her Toyota Camry and back to Davis and it was pure fun we entered the room and she has her mouth open she is unable to control in no time we are naked and in bed she is leaking I lick her clean and its time for CG she is in control DFK and wot together she is cumming in 5 minutes and again after a break of a minute its time for more fucking she does not let me come up and in 15 minutes we both are cumming again.
Game over and I sleep like a baby wake up and she is sleeping next to me in a towel her hot body I am high start to kiss her hands and cheeks and man she is ready she comes over me sucks Jr like a ice cream and I am already high horny hard man this babe has been blacked she knows how to please a dick starts to ride me and she is coming in 10 minutes I can't handle this as she is having all the fun I bend her over and put a pillow down her and start to pump her like it's a marathon she is moaning moaning as in porn movie moans and I getting more high I increase my speed, then slow down, then little humps then all the way in then in and full out she is cumming again I can feel the cum farts she is getting more vocal this babe has stamina she is strong in sex, I am liking this babe I flip her over again and enter miss, position the legs in such a way I can go for a long session and it's a marathon hump but this babes is begging for more, more, yes ales yes, come on honey I want you the more I was going strong the more vocal she is getting my legs and thighs are all wet with her cum juices I am sweating like a pig she is unsatisfiable, in the fucking I am asking her babe I want you tonight in your car come without panties I want to hump you on the boot she was going more crazy I was in heaven after about 30 minutes of passionate porn start sex I am cumming and she is still sucking my dick with her pussy. Gosh is she crazy then I think she is Blacked.
Adios,
Cheers,
Alex
Funnily enough, Yaan offered HJ and FS, but BJ was not on the menu. This makes no sense. When I enquired specifically, she pretended she did not understand. What self-respecting Thai hooker does not understand "blow job"?Ah, that's it exactly! I don't know what it is about that massage shop area that so many girls pretend VERY STRONGLY not to have any idea what a REAL blowjob is and, worse, seem not even to appreciate or believe that they work within easy walking distance of cute young Thai girls who PROVIDE that service for less than 1,000 baht, room included! I swear, I have gotten some of the most outlandish shocked reactions to my even asking about such a thing of girls at those particular shops, been lectured that I will never find a Thai girl who would do such a horrible thing, etc. LOL. Hard to believe my record of failure in this regard in just this one cluster of massage shops is so unlucky.
You know, much is said on these boards about not judging an entire venue, bar or shop by the behavior or performance of just one girl working there. I understand that intellectually. But I have also noticed there is such a thing as what I would call "Venue Culture". That is, a certain culture of behavior or performance level is developed in a venue due to whatever certain popular or charismatic girls boast about being able to get paid for doing as little as possible. Other girls hearing the glory of those war stories begin to believe they ought to be paid such and such amount of money for doing nothing or while refusing to do certain things as well. And it can go the other way too. I have been in bars where it is a fact that the most popular and charismatic girls would not think of giving less than Value For Money and, you know what, most of the other girls know they cannot afford to slack off and sit on their lazy butts doing nothing in a hotel room with a customer as long as that is so.
Could be that is what has happened in that cluster of massage shops next to and behind Villa Market. Sitting around having nothing better to do but chat about it (and they have a LOT of free time on their hands in that area), some of the better looking and more charismatic girls make a face over the idea of giving a BBBJ CIM, say they never have to do that to make good money and all the other girls in that "culture", that particular closed society of massage shops, don't think they ought to have to do it either. I have no idea what else is going on. How can you make a living servicing men in a Happy Ending massage shop smack in the center of Bangkok's P4P district and NOT know what a REAL blowjob is and, worse, NOT be fantastically skilled at it after just a few days on the job? Or, it could just be virtually none of those girls can imagine themselves giving ME a BBBJ CIM. LOL.
Now, that is not to say those girls won't put a dick in their mouth and swish it around for a moment or two as mere oral foreplay before slipping on a condom for FS. But that isn't what we're talking about here, right? We're talking about a REAL blowjob Happy Ending to the point of finishing IN the mouth, not outside by hand. Finishing outside by HER hand, for those who aren't sure, is a "handjob", not a blowjob. Finishing outside by YOUR hand is "masturbation", also not a blowjob. Fact is, a REAL blowjob shouldn't even need the additional "CIM" description attached to it, isn't that right gentlemen?
That's the kind of trick Anonymous or USAID would run to harvest IP addresses and doxx everybody.I'm pretty sure they don't care about microeconomics in the p4 p market.
But I do.
Use an IP proxy if you're that scared of a google survey.
I'm also interviewing working girls and asking them some of the same questions.
I have reported on the little massage shops next to Villa Market before. The girls are there 24 hours.Half of them are not girls. Choose wisely.
Finnish Fucker
04-07-16, 13:55
I'll put it mildly, the Crazy House bar is run by heartless scum and their management style will fuck the Thai bar scene up to where I can just stay home and get abused there if that's what I want. I sure as fuck don't need 14 hours of plane torture to get fucked over in Thailand when I have that a home.
In the past I have taken 4 or 5 ladies from this place and it seems to be getting more & more cut throat as time rolls on. They have some really hot nudes there and so the general monger population is all over that place. They have outstanding talent but fuck, that doesn't give them the right to blatantly rip off welling meaning mongers. *I was blatantly lied to and cheated, I was fucking mad about it too.
As I waited this situation out I watched the whole scene there w / a critical eye. The gyrating flesh, the waitresses hunting for empty beers, the mamasans sticking their noses everywhere. *Then on the other side you have this collection of sweaty mongers all trying to find some pleasure, laughing, searching, *nursing their drinks. The ladies dancing w / these blank looks on their faces as if they're at a bus stop just wanting to be gone. It wasn't pretty. It was a rip off industrial line w / top pussy on the conveyer belt.
CheersI visited CH 2 times a few weeks ago. Thursday and Friday nights. The place was packed with customers, a sardine can. Some old snake heads in the mix. The quality of the girls was mediocre, nobody stood out for me. Bored girls who danced with blank looks on their face as Socker expressed. Well this is the case in many other agogos as well. The only good thing in CH is the girls dance nude. But it won't save the place if the quality of the girls is poor.
One of the fat mamasans is an asshole. On my second visit she was clearly drunk and aggressive. I asked her how much is one lady drink and my GT. She said 600 baht. I asked how the hell is that possible? She said 150 for my gin&tonic and 450 for 2 tequilas. I told her I want to buy ONE girl ONE ladydrink. Fucking moron. I stood up and went to another side of the stage. Winked number 50 with nice tits to come down when the dance shift stopped and she came and I bought her one LD. I did not barfine any hooker from CH, I found better girls in other BKK venues.
Cheers, FF.
Traveler1234
04-07-16, 14:08
Mod: I suggest this post and this person be deleted.Evanist is legitimate and bona fide contributor.
I was wondering if this time while in BKK if I could even get a real GFE by knowing a girl well in advance, pointers required to contact girls before hand, so what are the different media that could be used to contact some non pros, FL etc.
If some generous person could share digits it would be wonderful.
Thanks.
CaptCabins
04-07-16, 18:12
I visited CH 2 times a few weeks ago. Thursday and Friday nights. The place was packed with customers, a sardine can. Some old snake heads in the mix. The quality of the girls was mediocre, nobody stood out for me. Bored girls who danced with blank looks on their face as Socker expressed. Well this is the case in many other agogos as well. The only good thing in CH is the girls dance nude. But it won't save the place if the quality of the girls is poor.
One of the fat mamasans is an asshole. On my second visit she was clearly drunk and aggressive. I asked her how much is one lady drink and my GT. She said 600 baht. I asked how the hell is that possible? She said 150 for my gin&tonic and 450 for 2 tequilas. I told her I want to buy ONE girl ONE ladydrink. Fucking moron. I stood up and went to another side of the stage. Winked number 50 with nice tits to come down when the dance shift stopped and she came and I bought her one LD. I did not barfine any hooker from CH, I found better girls in other BKK venues.
Cheers, FF.How much did they gave you for short time by the way?
ShangHangin
04-07-16, 18:26
In town from Shanghai on business. After a long day of customer meetings, I hit Soi Cowboy for a drink to chill out. After a walk up and back, settled in for a drink with a girl (I liked her legs and ass) at Fanny's. After a few, I decided that I was not going to BF her as I have to get up early in the morning, so pulled the plug and decided to hit Soi 23 to see about a massage. Ended up at Body&Mind Aromatherapy only because I liked the girl that waive me in. Picked the 1 hour oil massage for 400 baht. Showered up and then Ahn proceeded to give a nice massage. After a while, she gives me a little peck on the cheek, and that turns into DFK. Off come her clothes and she showers up. BBBJ, DATY and couple of pops later, we shower up together. I drop her 1 K for the service. She's a 22 YR old spinner. Very fun, passionate girl.
SH.
ShangHangin
04-07-16, 18:39
A question for BKK regulars. As a China resident, WeChat is the social media app of (government) choice. All others are basically blocked. I see in BKK using the People Nearby function lots of call girls, lady boys and "real girls". Any thoughts on quality, cost, etc?
SH.
Half of them are not girls. Choose wisely.Some are, but not close to half as I have seen it. But you might have only been using that figure as an expression. There definitely are some ladyboys working in some of those shops. Ladyboys probably represent no more than 1 in 5 of the service providers in the shops inside the Villa Market arcade, some shops do not employ any. But there are a couple of shops in the small sub-soi alley area beyond the Villa Market arcade that have mostly ladyboys, maybe 4-5 working in a couple of those shops, while most of the other shops employ none or maybe one.
Also, in venues like these, the ladyboys are not going to be the higher-end, latest expensive surgical and chemical technology gender appearance transformations you might encounter in the Nana and Soi Cowboy Ladyboy go-go bars or those massage shops on Sukhumvit Rd. between Soi 5 and Soi 7. Uh, to put it politely, I don't think anyone with less than a keg of beer in his system would be easily fooled by any of them.
A question for BKK regulars. As a China resident, WeChat is the social media app of (government) choice. All others are basically blocked. I see in BKK using the People Nearby function lots of call girls, lady boys and "real girls". Any thoughts on quality, cost, etc?
SH.Just stick to monger price as they, like the escorts, tend to milk more than the regular rates. Thinking social media is a gold mine full of idiots.
In town from Shanghai on business. After a long day of customer meetings, I hit Soi Cowboy for a drink to chill out. After a walk up and back, settled in for a drink with a girl (I liked her legs and ass) at Fanny's. After a few, I decided that I was not going to BF her as I have to get up early in the morning, so pulled the plug and decided to hit Soi 23 to see about a massage. Ended up at Body&Mind Aromatherapy only because I liked the girl that waive me in. Picked the 1 hour oil massage for 400 baht. Showered up and then Ahn proceeded to give a nice massage. After a while, she gives me a little peck on the cheek, and that turns into DFK. Off come her clothes and she showers up. BBBJ, DATY and couple of pops later, we shower up together. I drop her 1 K for the service. She's a 22 YR old spinner. Very fun, passionate girl.
SH.Very nice story and experience! Glad for you! She looks awesome as well. Doubt she is just 22 though. Hey but who knows and by the pic it really does not matter!
She's a keeper IMO. Hope you have her contact info for your next trip. Definitely spend more time with her man.
Thanks for the report!
A question for BKK regulars. As a China resident, WeChat is the social media app of (government) choice. All others are basically blocked. I see in BKK using the People Nearby function lots of call girls, lady boys and "real girls". Any thoughts on quality, cost, etc?
SH.Quality is pretty low.
If you can find real girls amidst all the ladyboys on there, they're the same girls who hang out around McDonald's and Subway during the day, or in some of the freelance discos at night.
I've tried it and find very little of interest.
You know, much is said on these boards about not judging an entire venue, bar or shop by the behavior or performance of just one girl working there. I understand that intellectually. But I have also noticed there is such a thing as what I would call "Venue Culture". That is, a certain culture of behavior or performance level is developed in a venue due to whatever certain popular or charismatic girls boast about being able to get paid for doing as little as possible. Other girls hearing the glory of those war stories begin to believe they ought to be paid such and such amount of money for doing nothing or while refusing to do certain things as well. And it can go the other way too. I have been in bars where it is a fact that the most popular and charismatic girls would not think of giving less than Value For Money and, you know what, most of the other girls know they cannot afford to slack off and sit on their lazy butts doing nothing in a hotel room with a customer as long as that is so.I think you are spot on. Always kind of been this way. The tone is influenced by the gals but the mamasan can certainly have an effect as well. Sadly with most venues these days the culture is set by the workers and is for the workers not the customers. I harken back to the glory days of Midnight Bar in the early '00's when it was managed by Aussie Mark. He specifically told the gals that if they ever showed any annoyance towards punters who take different ladies each night or if they got angry at a customer or another gal when a guy switched they were fired. Gals were told to expect guys to butterfly. He operated a customer centric bar and I would say it was the most fun you could have on the soi in those days. Sadly most mamasans now cater to the gals, especially if they have a lot of lookers. Really in the end as Tooms says, it is the fault of the punters that we all get poorer service. As long as dudes except what they get and don't complain and vote with their feet; service will get worse.
It's the same with classes at school, or office work environments, or any group really.
There might be one or two strong personalities and everyone kind of falls in line behind them, and they dictate the mood and behavior of the group.
So if you have a couple girls who decide customers are shitheads and you should just try to take as much money from them while doing as little as possible, this behavior will spread. Especially if other girls see them profiting and being successful at it. Then they'll keep pushing it further and further.
I've had several venues I really liked ruined in this manner.
When tourism and the economy are on a downward slope (Chinese tourists don't gogo), you'll see a lot more cutthroat attitudes develop.
Goat,
Totally agree. Used to visit Midnight during that time period and it was always a fun party. I have fond memories of that place!
If one will go few pages back then one can find a lot of related reports like this involving Crazy House in it. I've not been to Crazy House and wouldn't like to try after reading all these BS stuff about them.
However in my recent trip I checked out Baccara and IMO they act exactly opposite to Crazy House. Although I was asked to buy a drink straightaway even before entering but no one bothered me thereafter. I saw all cool mamsans over there, the girls were very cool too. The funny thing was, a Japanese client asked one mamsan to lift the tiny skirt of a girl so that he could see the bare ass of her, to which the mamsan obliged quickly. I was seating right there when all these happenings were happening and quite enjoying too.
May be you should go to Baccara in your next.Yes when I return I will try Baccara (in Udon Thani now).
On this trip I have had some great takeouts from Spankys in NEP. This bar is monger friendly and there are a few very hot dancers of which I took two. They have some fun dance routines, and silly concepts that keep things light. Both honeys I took (on separate occasions) were not in a rush as I primed them at other bars before the session, both sessions were off the charts good, but no pics allowed both times.
Udon Thani is a hot hick town w / under 20 bars and some decent takeout for 300 b barfine and 1000 b tip for lady. Not many rules up here so far. I had a pretty good session last night. I will do a TR in the appropriate forum. Thanks for the feed back guys. Enjoy your day.
I have reported on the little massage shops next to Villa Market before. The girls are there 24 hours. I often stay near there at Grand President on Soi 11 and take girls to my hotel from there. I have had many nights saved when I couldn't find a suitable girl elsewhere and picked one up from these massage shops.Some of those girls are a real surprise. Was there last year in one of the shops down opposite the hairdresser. The price quoted was 1500 thb for boom boom. Not a bad looker & very chatty & friendly. Not much massage which is ok. DFK, BBBJ, cap on and she is CG. I'm playing with her arse & she says you want to do. I say up to you. She lubes up with coconut oil & a minute later I'm balls deep in her arse. Unexpected & I gave her an extra 200 bht which she was happy with. Said she liked sometimes.
Another day another night.
The Thai blacked babe had squeezed every inch of cum from inside me so I went for a nice lunch at mono+mono chicken wings shop after a heartiest lunch came home and started to work around 6 pm I was shit tired my eyes and my body had given up its been 3 days I had not slept for a good 6 hrs I could still smell her pussy juices on me all over my body so took a hot bath in the Jacuzzi and dozed off when I woke up it was 2:30 am WTF I slept for 6 hrs man it was bliss feeling. Took a shower and was in shock by 3:30 just when I entered this Uzbek had seen her on the first night also took hold of my hand and smooched me I had just entered she said Alex I was in awe how does she know my name it seems that women do talk about there customers between themselves. She was cute not hot but had hooters and that also natural I was taken from her boobs and the way she kissed or smooched or DFK. Went to the bar for my drink and she was already hugging me saw two more awesome Uzbek babes both doable but I was already taken poor me I did not have the guts to say no to her it was disrespectful to degrade a lady even if she is hooker I always think respect for the lady plus if the lady is into you it's a guarantee the night is going to be 100 % rocking. So I tell her lets go another disco she said Alex I know you like Bollywood disco I was surprised to hell and thought she knew from Bollywood she must have seen from there with another lady and she must be there with another punter.
So we reach Bollywood after a couple of drinks later at shock and the place was already packed with some Arabic punters with two Arabic babes one Iranian and the other maghrib with these 5 guys all In shorts and flip flops we get to our usual table I wanted to drink tonight and this babe wanted to drink also so we were into heavy drinking and she was an awesome dancer with those big tits half out she was a stealing every ones attention. She was going crazy making out with me in the club on the sofa, smooching and kissing biting me her and there she had my shirt almost open. I was shy but this Uzbek was out of control she wanted to dance with the girls on the stage so she ordered her song and robin said Alex I want fuck this babe tonight you do what you want but I want to fuck her like a ***** I was quiet we both had a big laugh the babe was high and horny I could feel it from her panties I slid my hand inside and it came out wet I licked it clean and she was shocked she licked my face clean and had her tongue inside me I was in a crazy state now.
We enjoyed our 2 hrs in Bollywood and she was in awe with me I am a gentleman and make my lady also feel special and classy she was surprised to see the respect with me in Bollywood never did her glass was empty, not even once did she even have to open the washroom door, not even once she had to light her cigge her side of table was cleaned time and again different waiters asking her time and again do you need anything perks of being with Alex, we head out and the food never fails to amaze me tummy full we land home, entered room and she is horny strips out of her clothes in a flash and has me naked in moments she is into me its non stop smooches and she is fondling my dick like a play station remote. I am today fresh after a 6 HR sleep so even this bottle of vodka does not make me high anymore so we were kissing she was horny she wanted sex I wanted to wait and make her high she had me in her mouth and was sucking it compare it with the Thai ladies sucking speed and skills she was a failure in that department so I started DATY and she was pink and clean and was wet very wet my tongue started the swirling and she was in heaven only saying jonim please fuck me please jonim I want fuck and I entered her but she was tight very tight even after being so wet she was tight I was unable to enter she screamed and I started to smooch her and then enter her she was in pain but she wanted it so badly the moment it was fully in I could feel my dick is stretching her pussy walls a lot she was enjoying it like crazy in 5 minutes she was cumming and was shy I started to hump again and in 10 minutes she is into it throws me down and starts to ride me like crazy man she is a tigress in bed but I am no so much into it so its RCG now and then BBBJ she is fucking crazy I am feeling the rhythm and I throw her under me and start the marathon fuck man she is gasping for air thatçs the problem with slim babes both the Thai thick lady and Blacked babe were so comfortable with me when I started the marathon she was feeling the heat but I was in mood and motion and in 5 minutes even she was leaking crazy. In no time I am cumming like crazy and she is already in a cum mode so we both rest for a while and then head to the Jacuzzi for a hot bath. It's a bliss this Jacuzzi after sex so much fun, 20 minutes in the Jacuzzi the babe wants sex again. You crazy I tell her yes she says I am crazy I want sex again I like too much sex. I laughed like crazy back in room in 5 minutes she is sleeping like a baby, I am working and starting my day.
Nothing great but tonight I am going to hunt in Soi 4 in the Arab quarter for an Indian, Paki or Arab or even for a black babe.
Cheers,
Alex
Crocodilexp
04-08-16, 08:32
Quality is pretty low.
If you can find real girls amidst all the ladyboys on there, they're the same girls who hang out around McDonald's and Subway during the day, or in some of the freelance discos at night.
I've tried it and find very little of interest.Good to hear a honest assessment of WeChat, I fully agree.
Several times, I heard random posters say "the (hooker) scene is no worse, maybe better, than before, but the girls have just moved online, like on WeChat, ThaiFriendly and Tinder". And it's maddening since that's simply not the case. Plenty of girls online, but they're mostly normal girls, and even if some are looking money in some shape, not explicit, require work, you can't just ask and have them come over within an hour or two (plus there are so many flakes / ladyboys to contend with in the small group who are obviously PFP).
I would agree on this front but not fully, I have been in contact with some hotties I am gona meet on my trip starting in about 10 days, I am chatting with about 10 girls I know I will meet at least 2 but all from different sources like badoo and DIA I know most of the girls are regular girls by the amount of pictures I have seen but you never know, I have made it very clear to them I won't pay any money and still 4-5 wana meet me for coffee and drinks let's see how lucky I get I have been doing this same thing for my HK trips and been fucking free fucks.
Good to hear a honest assessment of WeChat, I fully agree.
Several times, I heard random posters say "the (hooker) scene is no worse, maybe better, than before, but the girls have just moved online, like on WeChat, ThaiFriendly and Tinder". And it's maddening since that's simply not the case. Plenty of girls online, but they're mostly normal girls, and even if some are looking money in some shape, not explicit, require work, you can't just ask and have them come over within an hour or two (plus there are so many flakes / ladyboys to contend with in the small group who are obviously PFP).
I was told that the scene is much worse nowadays for providers. Customer numbers are way down.
White and japanese aren't visiting as much, and the Chinese don't stray too far from their tour buses.
One girl who works on wechat and the street told me that her opening offer 5 years ago was 2000, and nowadays it's 1500 because people don't want to pay a lot, and there aren't as many customers to be choosy with.
Other girls are taking the opposite approach and trying to push ST rates up to 2500 and 3000 to make up for the fewer customers (Thai logic).
And whenever I drop by Cowboy or Nana in the past year or two they're pretty dead except for a few popular bars.
I remember 5 years ago it was hard to get a seat in almost every bar if it was 10 pm, but now that's only the case maybe in baccara.
I wouldn't say the online p4 p scene is very good, but the freebie scene is amazing nowadays thanks to dating apps and the moderate sexual revolution they've caused globally.
Probably not so much for tourists, but as an expat I frequently feel like I need a secretary to schedule all the girls who want to meet for sex, and I often have to turn them down.
Some of them are hookers and want some cash, but most are just horny or want to land a boyfriend.
Today I slept with 3 girls and it's not 9 pm yet.
1) Gogo bargirl (don't know which bar).
Then a 3 some with a 2) 33 year old rich girl virgin and a 3) 22 year old deaf freelancer visiting from phuket.
I wouldn't say the online p4 p scene is very good, but the freebie scene is amazing nowadays thanks to dating apps and the moderate sexual revolution they've caused globally.
Probably not so much for tourists, but as an expat I frequently feel like I need a secretary to schedule all the girls who want to meet for sex, and I often have to turn them down.
Some of them are hookers and want some cash, but most are just horny or want to land a boyfriend.
Got to say that is what I am experiencing, too. Which kind of pisses me off because I moved to Thailand in order to enjoy the more emotionally liberated and complication free P4 P scene and NOT just for more of a "dating" scene but like it is on steroids. I posted a while back that if all the go-go bars in Bangkok closed tomorrow it would barely cause a glitch in my already very filled dance card.
The weirdest part of it is it turns out that, despite the fact that I still get some real winner P4P experiences here, because of the deterioration of the quality of service among the P4 P girls overall, it is now a much greater certainty that I will get laid and / or blown royally and my way by my next non pro 20-something year old "first time date" in exchange for nothing more than dinner at an inexpensive Thai restaurant and a movie, if that, than with my next 350 baht of Lady Drinks, 800 baht barfine, 2500 baht-to-the-girl go-go dancer with whom I have engaged in a tedious and uncomfortable detailed pre-barfine interview in an effort NOT to totally waste my time and money over the next two hours.
The money I have spent in a few so-called "PSE" oily Massage Shops has only bought even LESS certainty about my getting laid and/or blown anything worth a damn.
Isn't it supposed to be the other way around? Isn't the "first time date" girl supposed to be the sexually uncertain partner for the evening while the "good time for cash" bargirl the absolute sure thing? lol. Not in Thailand anymore. Not for me, at least.
Crocodilexp
04-08-16, 21:20
been in contact with some hotties I am gona meet... I am chatting with about 10 girls... will meet at least 2... I have made it very clear to them I won't pay any money and still 4-5 wana meet me for coffee and drinks Good luck. Personally, to me all that sounds like a massive amount of work, and not the kind of work that I particularly enjoy doing or care to perform only to dip my end into some Thai pussy (paid or civilian). Perhaps if I were looking for a real long-term relationship it could be worthwhile, but that is hard to find (different criteria altogether) I already have a GF. In the old days, getting a decent semi-pro for an hour or three of fun used to be way less complicated and cheaper too, unless you value time spent doing the chore of online chasing / dating at zero.
moved to Thailand in order to enjoy the more emotionally liberated and complication free P4 P scene and NOT just for more of a "dating" scene but like it is on steroids. Great description, the online scene is indeed dating on steroids. If you work hard and spend the time, with a bit of pipelining (it takes about 2 weeks to start up), you can arrange a date for nearly every day and shag a new girl every week. If I were just arriving to these shores, this would have impressed me. However, having been here in PFP heyday, and having tried online dating before, it just seems like a lot of hassle for a not-so-amazing reward. Might be crude to say this, but most (95%) of the Thai girls are not all that interesting to me on a personal level, apart from the bedroom games. Not much of a conversation (though I do speak Thai), and not much in terms of shared interests / activities. I did a few bursts of pipelining and dating over the years, and it gets tiring.
I feel a bit bad since above might be a dream come true to anyone living in the West and getting sporadic or no interest from women on dating sites, but such is life in Bangkok.
If you get any enjoyment from online dating, enjoy it while it lasts. In my opinion, in 5 years or less, it'll be much more difficult.
A few years ago (2010 or so) online dating was way easier than now. Before smartphones and Line, if you lived in Bangkok, all you needed to do to set up a meeting with almost any girl that's interested is to SMS her a time and a place. No need to charm them online: if there was any interest at all, you'd quickly and easily get a phone number, and then a meeting. These days you need to soften them a bit with inane Line message / stickers, knowing full well she's talking to 20 other guys, keeping her options open and taking her sweet time to make a choice. It seems to me like many are not eager to meet, but using online dating for self-validation, having constant expressions of interest feels good as a boost to self-esteem. So, it's already on the downward track, and won't last forever.
Got to say that is what I am experiencing, too. Which kind of pisses me off because I moved to Thailand in order to enjoy the more emotionally liberated and complication free P4 P scene and NOT just for more of a "dating" scene but like it is on steroids. I posted a while back that if all the go-go bars in Bangkok closed tomorrow it would barely cause a glitch in my already very filled dance card.
The weirdest part of it is it turns out that, despite the fact that I still get some real winner P4P experiences here, because of the deterioration of the quality of service among the P4 P girls overall, it is now a much greater certainty that I will get laid and / or blown royally and my way by my next non pro 20-something year old "first time date" in exchange for nothing more than dinner at an inexpensive Thai restaurant and a movie, if that, than with my next 350 baht of Lady Drinks, 800 baht barfine, 2500 baht-to-the-girl go-go dancer with whom I have engaged in a tedious and uncomfortable detailed pre-barfine interview in an effort NOT to totally waste my time and money over the next two hours. Now I visit gogo bars only a few times a year. With all the coyotes, and girls quoting 2500ST and all the added fees of drinks + ladydrinks + barfine + ST hotel, it's just not worth it.
The last time I barfined a girl, she had been super friendly and cool in the bar, and then got super cold and weird in the hotel room, and would only do missionary. And then the hotel staff started banging on the door after 40 minutes saying our time was up. I wondered why I was paying so much for this crap when I could go meet a girl off tinder and have way better sex.
If you get any enjoyment from online dating, enjoy it while it lasts. In my opinion, in 5 years or less, it'll be much more difficult.
A few years ago (2010 or so) online dating was way easier than now. Before smartphones and Line, if you lived in Bangkok, all you needed to do to set up a meeting with almost any girl that's interested is to SMS her a time and a place. No need to charm them online: if there was any interest at all, you'd quickly and easily get a phone number, and then a meeting. These days you need to soften them a bit with inane Line message / stickers, knowing full well she's talking to 20 other guys, keeping her options open and taking her sweet time to make a choice. It seems to me like many are not eager to meet, but using online dating for self-validation, having constant expressions of interest feels good as a boost to self-esteem. So, it's already on the downward track, and won't last forever. It's definitely way easier now due to smartphones and apps.
Although yes, a lot of them are just looking for validation and attention from having 20 guys messaging them trying to get at them, and having 200 unread Line messages at all times.
Or the "JUST LOOKING FOR FRIENDS" girls, who try to act like they're really using a hookup app to try to meet friends.
But after you sift through those, you have much better sex (for much less money) than you do at the bars and massage shops at the moment.
I have been considering bringing up this topic of go-go's bars and girls service overall.
My first trip to Thailand was only last winter and I spent a good deal of time in either Bangkok or Pattaya. Ditto for this winter as well. I have several veteran friends who have been coming to Bangkok for years and their favorite venue to meet girls had been at the go-go's. From here, they try to develop more long term situations with the girl so they can call them to come over without having to trudge down to the go-go and finding new or existing talent.
All have complained about the decline in service accompanied, ironically, by a rise in prices. Combined with reading all the negative reports and my friends experiences, I have never barfined a girl in my two winters here. All of my encounters has either come via a certain particular club here with a sprinkling of girls met on Suk and a one off from the Nana parking lot. Except for a few rare instances, my experiences have been outstanding with many positive times documented in this thread.
I wonder how these clubs stay in business. Sometimes I do go with my friends in a wingman capacity and they are either virtually empty or bereft of potential paying customers. The girls on stage sullenly move around observing themselves in the mirror with an occasional wary glance at their prospects below. I am usually bored out of my mind after the first few rounds of bars. My hometown strip clubs are more fun than what I see in Bangkok.
Fortunately, or I would not be coming, Bangkok and Thailand offer so much more in terms of options of meeting girls half your age and at a reasonable price accompanied by solid GFE. If you treat them as your GF, they generally will reciprocate in kind and usually in spades. I will not mourn the demise of these clubs. Indeed, I look forward to it. It will mean Just more girls going to standard clubs and other venues.
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