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It's not rude. Don't forget. You are the client. But if you don't usually feel comfortable with LT, just say ST and suggest LT if things proceed well. Pretty common strategy here with BM'S.
Of course, they will expect to be paid for LT if that was agreed to upfront, especially if they have been there for a while.
If you hire girl for a long time and say you want her to leave before morning is it rude to ask her to go? I have reasons why I don't want to sleep the entire night with a girl if it is avoidable.
If you hire girl for a long time and say you want her to leave before morning is it rude to ask her to go? I have reasons why I don't want to sleep the entire night with a girl if it is avoidable.I think girls are happy enough to leave early if you have paid for the full LT. Tip her 100 Baht for the taxi.
It is a good idea to mention how many hours and how many times you hope to fuck her in that period, in advance, so there are no big misunderstandings. Many girls don't like to do long time, if they have appointments during the day, and they don't know if they will get any sleep.
Normally girls may not expect to fuck more than two times in a LT booking, I don't know since I hardly take LT any more. I do have a girl now, that I would like to take LT, but am not sure if she would like it. I am a noisy sleeper (not snoring but occasional groans).
So telling the girl you want 4 hours only (or whatever the amount desired), might suit her perfectly.
I agree with you, though in this instance, it appeared to me that she remembered how awful she was since she went on about doing proper LT. I did not get into the whole gist of our convo but she seemed to suggest making amends if I took her home. Though from my perspective, I thought that there was a 50% possibility of getting played (again).Yes I see the difference, however women can underestimate just how annoying they can be.
I think you are right to not make the same mistake again.
Do girls ever improve? Rarely but does happen. I took a very beautiful girl who was sober, from the bar. On the bed she did not do more than very light kissing and was pretty lack lustre (but not annoying), just weak session.
Another day in the bar, she seems to be wondering why I am not showing interest, like I had admitted she was gorgeous, and buying her a drink. I was not thinking of trying her again. Eventually I did buy her some tequilas, due to her looks. She seemed to be reacting to me much differently, less shy. In the end I did BF her again, and had a very enthusiastic fuck from her including DFK. She had changed completely, assisted by the alcohol, I feel sure. Perhaps the chemistry was working the 2nd time. If she wasn't stunning, the 2nd time would never have happened.
Suddenly I intended to see her regularly, May-Lee. Unfortunately, next trip, she was gone, apparently to have a baby (not mine). For every one story like this, I am sure there are ten where the girl was tried a second time, did not improve, or was even worse. It is a big gamble to try a weak girl again. An annoying girl, I don't think so. If girls change from being a shy newbie, to a more experienced girl, there could be big improvement.
Crocodilexp
05-11-16, 19:59
What dosage of viagra do you folks take, 50 or 100 MG? Is it safe to take 100 MG every day for two weeks?What's safe depends on your underlying medical conditions. If you're of advancing age and / or have heart trouble (e. G. Low blood pressure, or using nitroglycerine, or angina), be very careful and consult a doctor about dosage.
In my 40's, I find that 25 MG (half of a 50 MG pill) works just well enough.
Viagra has a fairly short half-life (about 4 h), and I don't think it has long-term effects, so I assume using it every is not too risky, but again, all depends on your general state. Quite a few times, I got into an uncomfortable state where medication allows me to continue fucking, but I'm not actually into it and would prefer it to finish, which is physically difficult.
Do note that while Viagra makes your physical erection stronger (and far less likely to subside once you get going), it is not an aphrodisiac, it won't make you horny and is of limited use if you initially aren't turned on or sufficiently stimulated. In addition, it won't actually improve your enjoyment of the act (apart from reducing anxiety), just physical performance.
Member #4698
05-11-16, 20:26
Do note that while Viagra makes your physical erection stronger (and far less likely to subside once you get going), it is not an aphrodisiac, it won't make you horny and is of limited use if you initially aren't turned on or sufficiently stimulated.Right. Viagra / Cialis does nothing for your libido (sexual desire). Stimulating my libido is the girl's job. Towards the end of my 2 month trip there were many nights when I started out not caring if I got laid or not, but then I would meet a sexy girl and Yada, Yada, Yada, I am in love again and glad I took that pill.
Gannaton48
05-11-16, 21:12
Right. Viagra / Cialis does nothing for your libido (sexual desire). Stimulating my libido is the girl's job. Towards the end of my 2 month trip there were many nights when I started out not caring if I got laid or not, but then I would meet a sexy girl and Yada, Yada, Yada, I am in love again and glad I took that pill.Of course, it is the working principle of these stuffs: your brain must deliver signals to your penis and only then do your vessels react. Indeed Cialis is much longer-lasting than Viagra (I am pharmacologist).
Hi Alex,
I know that you are a GURU for Dubai and of course, want to be there some time to enjoy with your leads. Although I am not expert but have some good experiences in Bangkok since I have been mongering in this City for last 20 Yrs. The place I refer is the same I go for last 10 yrs which is neither the club or a gogo. It's a coffee shop basically but a drink joint at night. Please visit "Thermae" Cafe Underground of Rumchaet Plaza Hotel, Soi 15 which is on the main road. You need to visit after 9 PM and bunch of girls are seen lined up around the room which you can observe one by one. With your experience, I am sure you can pick the youngest and cutest one out there. Many of them are students, office workers and Mall assistants who come to make some side income. In this place, I have hunted many students, office girls, beauticians, IT professionals including one Sports Girl, a nurse and an 18 yr old school girl, lovely one of her dad and mom. Try it and you will know the difference. One thing to keep in mind: Many Girls look for Japanese only since they are not regular and fear large cocks. So, you should pretend to be simple and polite to show that you are not very rough. Once you get into the room, who cares, how big you have and small their pussy is, just dig and pump as much!
BKK it is:
Working hard has its syndromes and I was fed up of Dubai. Work took me to HK: SQ and we had to wrap up our 8 year old operations in Philippines which was a very sad and disturbing day of my life. I am a very simple honest guy so unexpected losses by people who are cheat are always a set back to me as I tend to make an emotional connection with all our employees and partners in different parts of the world. Back to SQ and with a heavy heart I took a break to LOS I usually don't take an off but it was a big loss with a a lot of time and emotions were involved, rather than the money we lost a lot of face value and in our business its just face value which is most important. Landed in BKK at about 5 pm local time after finishing the work in SG and the moment I land in this city I have fond memories its been at least 2 years I haven't come here for mongering but today was the time. Check-in in to my usual suite in the Davis one of the best rooms I have stayed in my entire life, entering the room is like eternity have an instant flashback of the crazy things I have done here when I was a party animal and used to frequent BKK for work every fortnight.
Its a room which has all the tendencies of a porn movie there is jacuzzi right in the living room all women who I have brought here are crazy and want to come back again and again...
Hey guys,
I will be landing BKK at 11:45 pm Sunday so instead of heading directly Pattaya. Planning to checking in some hotel near Sukhmvit area and head directly to climax / mixx / shock39 for pickup. What do you think will be best pickup for me for LT t his late around 2-2:30 am.
I haven't finalized the hotel but I need to checking first to leave my luggage.
Any other alternative, please advice.
Next day I will travel to my destination PT.
I have been living in Bangkok near Asok and Nana for the past winter and the winter of 2015. Basically, I usually go to the clubs and bars in this area but decided to try some other places a bit further afield for at least the novelty of hanging out in new places.
One place that appears to get high reviews is Ku de TA, which are a complex of clubs located in a high rise building near Sathorn and the W hotel.
As chance would have it, I was at one of my local clubs off Suk when a couple of real classy looking girls sat next to me. One girl initiated a conversation with me. Really striking looking girl wearing a classy cocktail dress, great figure and gorgeous all the way around. Also, I assumed she would be too expensive for me. She immediately owned up to being a working girl and you have to love how unabashed these girls are about their profession. She also added that Thursday night is free flow Champagne night at KuDeTa and she and her girl friends would be going. One thing I enjoyed about this girl was the frank discussion we were having about prices relative to location, tourist on vacation compare to local ex-pats etc. Her English was excellent and she even understood when I said to her 'the skies the limit' -- relative to what she could ask in certain venues.
She seemed interested in me but before she could say anything more direct, I made a joke and said she looked too expensive for me. I can only imagine what she might ask in Ku De TA. However, she knew the general price girls ask in the club where we were having our convo (3 k), though I said that this was just their opening price and I rarely pay more than 2 k bt. She appeared to be a bit disappointed to hear my (bargaining) comments in this regard possible labeling me as a cheap Charlie. Nevertheless, our price discussion aside, we did exchange numbers and she texted me before she left the club for Climax. I really hate that place and she was with a wedding party so I did not want to invite myself along.
So my question is: has anyone spent anytime at KuDeTa? And, is so, what is your experience? I know that it's upscale and the girls prob quote outrageous rates but curious as to the overall ambience there. Since I would be going solo, it's nice that I would know this girl but it's unlikely I would be paying 4 or 5k baht for a ST encounter here.
Do note that while Viagra makes your physical erection stronger (and far less likely to subside once you get going), it is not an aphrodisiac, it won't make you horny and is of limited use if you initially aren't turned on or sufficiently stimulated. In addition, it won't actually improve your enjoyment of the act (apart from reducing anxiety), just physical performance.Ha ha. I would note that if your body is not used to Viagra, it can cause you to get an erection very easily indeed. First time I ever tried it, I was driving a car to go see my regular Gik. Just thinking about her caused an immediate erection, even though driving the car was my main task. So imagine you are traveling on the BTS to go to some MP. Just thinking about the girl, could stimulate a big hard on very quickly, if you are dosed up.
Viagra is very strong, so don't take a full 100 MG dose, till you see how you body reacts. It may blow your head off. LOL A quarter of a tablet is a good way to start, I think. Even that can have very strong results for those not used to it. I have never liked the Jelly type versions. Too messy when not using an entire pack (it's too strong).
I think medication is useful when trying a new girl, potentially difficult (who knows), or when fucking rather too much, not necessarily for every session. However these days even the 80 year olds can fuck a lot, assuming no heart attack. I hope to still get some when I reach 80.
I like to take about one half of a 100 MG but the reason I take it is that it has enabled me to last significantly longer with my partner, not so much for the erection. As I have gotten older, premature ejac has become a problem for me especially if the girl really turns me on. More often than not, since I am in charge of the selection process, 555, this is the case. And there are some incredibly hot and young girls here.
But the other interesting thing is since I stay more or less erect after ejaculation, I can still keep going. This winter I actually had several instances where I had numerous intense ejacs over several hours. This was a new experience for me, esp since I am 67. For example, with one willing, young, and very compliant partner, I had 4 ejacs over a 12 hour period.
And I know, V is not intended to work in this way in terms of providing more ejaculatatory ability but at least for me it has worked out this way. Maybe just keeping an erection allows the built up semen somewhere to go?
Ironically, I read some guys complain about the delay in coming and consider this a negative feature of V. I presume they are younger guys.
One side effect, rarely mentioned by others, is I can develop a terrible case of hiccups, which can last intermittently for a few days. Lately, I have been trying to mitigate this effect by taking the pill on a full stomach and it seems to be offsetting this problem. Fortunately, I don't experience headaches or vision problems so I guess YMMV.
Ha ha. I would note that if your body is not used to Viagra, it can cause you to get an erection very easily indeed. First time I ever tried it, I was driving a car to go see my regular Gik. Just thinking about her caused an immediate erection, even though driving the car was my main task. So imagine you are traveling on the BTS to go to some MP. Just thinking about the girl, could stimulate a big hard on very quickly, if you are dosed up.
Viagra is very strong, so don't take a full 100 MG dose, till you see how you body reacts. It may blow your head off. LOL A quarter of a tablet is a good way to start, I think. Even that can have very strong results for those not used to it. I have never liked the Jelly type versions. Too messy when not using an entire pack (it's too strong).
I think medication is useful when trying a new girl, potentially difficult (who knows), or when fucking rather too much, not necessarily for every session. However these days even the 80 year olds can fuck a lot, assuming no heart attack. I hope to still get some when I reach 80.
Usually I never have token a girl from Insanity. This place is for me just for partying alone or coming in already with company.
Last time run into the same girl I have danced twice before. 25, student and works part time in a flower shop. Fine slim body, cute face.
I was walking around just with a bottle of beer, like always when I'm alone. But when setting up with her at a table I shilled out my old coupon and she was more as eager to help me with my half bottle Jack Daniels.
Her close dancing got me to her goal. She has asked me twice in earlier occasions if I want to take her out, I always declined. This time she succeeded.
Seems she was pleased with my condo on a high floor and we never made it to the bedroom. I have a cheap reserve mattress which I use in the living room for laying around at the floor.
After 2 beers and a lot of fondling I pushed her into the bathroom, which I used with her together. 1 more beer followed while couching on the sofa and building up tension. The TV was running youtube with a lengthy Tomorrowland clip. While music running she blew my nicely and truly like a pro, trying to go to full length.
I licked her good up until we rushed down to the floor. Cover up and into it. Happy bouncing away.
Had some KY in reach, not really needed. But its better to avoid troubles. She was wet enough, but applied some at her, including the ass. She didn't minded so I went for her second hole. Hmm, 25 and student and seems to have quiet a bit experience. Time seems to change here in Thailand. I'm used to, that it's very difficult to find some open minded girls.
We spend probably about 3 hours together. The 3 k I gave her made her surprising and happy, she even forgot to ask for taxi money haha.
Got her number and line. To bad she keeps texting me. Had to deactivate the notification settings in Line app, otherwise my GF would get suspicious.
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Viagra is very strong, so don't take a full 100 MG dose, till you see how you body reacts. It may blow your head off. LOL A quarter of a tablet is a good way to start, I think. Even that can have very strong results for those not used to it. This discussion should be in the special thread for Viagra.
Check out this article that I posted there. It is a well-written article, especially about how to spot fakes, and warnings about taking too much and overloading your kidneys.
https://theconversation.com/weekly-dose-the-hard-facts-on-viagra-58289 (sorry the link needs to be pasted into your browser)
I agree with you, though in this instance, it appeared to me that she remembered how awful she was since she went on about doing proper LT. I did not get into the whole gist of our convo but she seemed to suggest making amends if I took her home. Though from my perspective, I thought that there was a 50% possibility of getting played (again).I fell for this ploy a few times earlier, but almost never take a dud girl a second time anymore. It usually turns out to be as big a waste of time, emotion and money the second time as it was the first. I think the ONLY occasions where that second time has turned out to be worth it was when I have gone down the list of acts and behaviors I would expect from her the second time around and assured her that if she did not perform or comply I would not pay her anything at all, is she ok with that? If she doesn't say she is ok with my not paying her so much as a single baht unless she does as I described, I do not entertain repeating with her for even one more minute.
If she cannot agree to that, she is definitely planning to play me again and we now both know it. Drop the idea of it from your mind immediately and turn your attentions elsewhere. Promises to be "better" than the first time without gory details and specifics along with her agreement to perform or no pay is expected are utterly worthless, IMO. I have had a few second times around under those circumstances and the satisfactions, both sexually and emotionally, are quite all right.
Hello brothers of Bangkok,
I am visiting Bangkok for the first time and am staying near Sukhumvit road. I have head and read a lot about Go go clubs and bars & pick up joints etc.
I am planning to visit some of them to taste some Thai girls. Can you suggest any places that are safe and do not have law issues. Also what are normal rates for a ST?
Are their short term rooms available and what are the charges for that? Do girls normally charge along with rooms or is that to be paid separately? I can speak only English. I hope that will not turn out to be a handicap.
This discussion should be in the special thread for Viagra.
Check out this article that I posted there. It is a well-written article, especially about how to spot fakes, and warnings about taking too much and overloading your kidneys.
https://theconversation.com/weekly-dose-the-hard-facts-on-viagra-58289 (sorry the link needs to be pasted into your browser)Here's the link.
https://theconversation.com/weekly-dose-the-hard-facts-on-viagra-58289?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20May%2012%202016%20-%204839&utm_content=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20May%2012%202016%20-%204839+CID_38173413147 cc5 d674696144215 ef9 fa&utm_so.
I details and specifics along with her agreement to perform or no pay is expected are utterly worthless, IMO.Yes, when you consider all the new fresh options available why bother with a possible bad repeat. On this subject, I have also become less interested in taking out girls I had a good to great experience on the first go around. Invariably it appears that many girls get lazier and I am less inclined to agree to second dates.
As to my subject line, last night I was at a dance club but only to hang out and have a beer and listen to music. This is no so easy to do in Bangkok as many FL's either lack the inner radar to tell when to leave a guy be or just are desperate for a customer and plow straight ahead regardless of whether they think you are interested in them or not.
I gradually felt myself being subtly surrounded by a few sharks smelling blood on the water or in this scenario a single older guy sitting in a corner nursing a Singha. One reason for drinking slowly was I had only a few hundred baht in my pocket as I forgot to hit the ATM.
One older dame had crept up stealth like behind me on a railing, no doubt trying to figure out how to get my attention. While engaged in a diversionary maneuver with her, another girl came up and just started dancing with me finally pulling me to the dance floor despite my protestations that I was not available tonight. Actually, in all probability I was available, just not for her.
Overall, she was not bad but still I am not really interested when they pick you. Sort of like hailing a cab. I prefer making the choice. After several dances, I was ready to leave solo and decided to extricate myself politely out of this situation by offering to buy her a beer with the limited funds I had available. Figuring I could also save face for this lassie before departing and be a good guy.
However, she also had a nearby friend who had been alternating between ogling me and encouraging me with various facial tics about how hot her friend was. It was at this point that the girl I was dancing with also insisted I buy her friend a beer too. When I declined (no $$ plus I did not want to buy two beers for two girls on my way out the door), she appeared irritated. Her friend picked up on my lack of interest in buying her a beer but also noticed I was making a hasty exit so she said that's OK I don't want one. Too late though because by now I was already exiting stage left. Now, this girl probably really lost face and I am the bad guy.
In my defense, I have bought girls' beers for their friends
before here on several occasions but it's nice to be the one making the offer, not the other way around.
Hi Alex,
I know that you are a GURU for Dubai and of course, want to be there some time to enjoy with your leads. Although I am not expert but have some good experiences in Bangkok since I have been mongering in this City for last 20 Yrs. The place I refer is the same I go for last 10 yrs which is neither the club or a gogo. It's a coffee shop basically but a drink joint at night. Please visit "Thermae" Cafe Underground of Rumchaet Plaza Hotel, Soi 15 which is on the main road. You need to visit after 9 PM and bunch of girls are seen lined up around the room which you can observe one by one. With your experience, I am sure you can pick the youngest and cutest one out there. Many of them are students, office workers and Mall assistants who come to make some side income. In this place, I have hunted many students, office girls, beauticians, IT professionals including one Sports Girl, a nurse and an 18 yr old school girl, lovely one of her dad and mom. Try it and you will know the difference. One thing to keep in mind: Many Girls look for Japanese only since they are not regular and fear large cocks. So, you should pretend to be simple and polite to show that you are not very rough. Once you get into the room, who cares, how big you have and small their pussy is, just dig and pump as much!Thanks TT, this time will definitely go for the hunt in Thermae. Last time was Oskar, Spasso and Ce La Vie (Ku de Ta) . This time thermae and I am also looking for some other classy or high end places where the BKK elites 25-40 go for party or bar or something like that. Very classy very expensive place super spicy chicks?
Find it for me mate and I will be highly thankful to you.
Cheers,
Alex
I have been living in Bangkok near Asok and Nana for the past winter and the winter of 2015. Basically, I usually go to the clubs and bars in this area but decided to try some other places a bit further afield for at least the novelty of hanging out in new places.
One place that appears to get high reviews is Ku de TA, which are a complex of clubs located in a high rise building near Sathorn and the W hotel.
As chance would have it, I was at one of my local clubs off Suk when a couple of real classy looking girls sat next to me. One girl initiated a conversation with me. Really striking looking girl wearing a classy cocktail dress, great figure and gorgeous all the way around. Also, I assumed she would be too expensive for me. She immediately owned up to being a working girl and you have to love how unabashed these girls are about their profession. She also added that Thursday night is free flow Champagne night at KuDeTa and she and her girl friends would be going. One thing I enjoyed about this girl was the frank discussion we were having about prices relative to location, tourist on vacation compare to local ex-pats etc. Her English was excellent and she even understood when I said to her 'the skies the limit' -- relative to what she could ask in certain venues.
She seemed interested in me but before she could say anything more direct, I made a joke and said she looked too expensive for me. I can only imagine what she might ask in Ku De TA. However, she knew the general price girls ask in the club where we were having our convo (3 k), though I said that this was just their opening price and I rarely pay more than 2 k bt. She appeared to be a bit disappointed to hear my (bargaining) comments in this regard possible labeling me as a cheap Charlie. Nevertheless, our price discussion aside, we did exchange numbers and she texted me before she left the club for Climax. I really hate that place and she was with a wedding party so I did not want to invite myself along.
So my question is: has anyone spent anytime at KuDeTa? And, is so, what is your experience? I know that it's upscale and the girls prob quote outrageous rates but curious as to the overall ambience there. Since I would be going solo, it's nice that I would know this girl but it's unlikely I would be paying 4 or 5k baht for a ST encounter here.In my opinion Ce La Vie (ex ku de ta) is best for a Wednesday or Friday night, that's when you have many semi pros and normal girls hanging there, also there is a large contingent of farang girls who are in BKK for work or maybe are models.
Never saw so much FL'rs action in the 2 days I was there, one of which was a Sunday if I am not wrong. But it is a place with a large hangout of normal BKK and ex-pat crowd and some handsome farang men to be found here also matching with the farang ladies.
It is a very upscale club, they reject too many men for admission at the bottom of the building only where there is a lift to go up and the place certainly feels classy with 3 places the dance floor and dj hall on the right then the nice quiet bar on the left and then they have a sweet outdoor patio for those beautiful views of sat horn and Bangkok from the 40 the floor and for you to kiss your girl and hold her ass and feel those soft sumptuous breasts in that chilled air. Hehehehe.
I am purely a club pickup guy so this is the kind of place I like to spend time but the music and ladies were not my choice maybe I was on a wrong day and both days I was with a very elegant Thai lady who seldom let me eyes wander but its difficult to hold Alex down.
But a nice place definitely worth a visit a tad higher than levels, but if you are looking for classy ladies do try Spasso or Mixx both have a nice collection of very beautiful Thai ladies Spasso is much better as it is less loud and more easy for a conversation and no way you need to pay more than 3 k for an all night to a Thai floor that's more than enough she we will be delightful in Esctacy.
I in my life have never asked a lady how much and what she will do in bed and sex and all those bull shit things, I treat the women with utter respect love and shower immensely on drinks and food for her and her friends and in return I get super service when we reach back our hotel room in Davis.
Cheers. Have fun man.
Alex
Old New Guy
05-12-16, 16:27
Now, this girl probably really lost face and I am the bad guy.Actually to me it seems that more than loosing face she won a free beer.
I'm always surprised when the foreigner needs wants to see face saving issues in all Thai situations.
These are hookers and you're strangers to each other. Before and after act and payment.
Old New Guy
05-12-16, 16:34
Very classy very expensive place super spicy chicks?
And a foreigner with no Thai command, that is not a celebrity and doesn't have a Thai introduction, where would belong in such parties?
If you read the story in more depth, you would have seen that she did not get a beer; free or otherwise. I walked out because I was miffed by her attitude and cancelled the order. I actually could care less that she lost face as she brought the whole thing on herself but was noting in her eyes and prob her friend that I am a bad guy now. I initially was going to buy her beer for her time because I enjoyed dancing with her and also I come in this place a lot so didn't want to to totally blow her off in the event I saw her again.
Frequently, Thai's lose face because of an error in judgment on their side. This story is such an example.
Actually to me it seems that more than loosing face she won a free beer.
I'm always surprised when the foreigner needs wants to see face saving issues in all Thai situations.
These are hookers and you're strangers to each other. Before and after act and payment.
So I walked into Thermae tonight about 8 pm. It was completely deserted with perhaps 4 girls in there and zero punters. There were a few stragglers outside smoking cigarettes. I have only been once before in late March and it was packed. I would estimate the time of my March visit was around 7 pm.
What happened or did I go at the wrong time? I live in the neighborhood and could easily return. In fact, last night when I walked by there seemed to be quite a few FL's outside the steps. I even chatted up a Japanese looking girl for a bit but her English was not so good. She claimed to be from Chiang Mai.
Thanks TT, this time will definitely go for the hunt in Thermae. Last time was Oskar, Spasso and Ce La Vie (Ku de Ta) . This time thermae and I am also looking for some other classy or high end places where the BKK elites 25-40 go for party or bar or something like that. Very classy very expensive place super spicy chicks?
Find it for me mate and I will be highly thankful to you.
Cheers,
Alex
Old New Guy
05-12-16, 20:11
If you read the story in more depth, you would have seen that she did not get a beer; free or otherwise. Even better! I can reassure you that the only one that has lost something is you, with a tiny bit of your time. It's not like you were dancing with your dear aunts and missed on some etiquette.
And a foreigner with no Thai command, that is not a celebrity and doesn't have a Thai introduction, where would belong in such parties?Don't worry ONG, been there done that in China and Hong Kong, doing it now in Dubai didn't knew a word of Arabic but having a Moroccan lady for 6 months have learnt a lot, there are clubs in Dubai where the entry is 30-60 $ just to get inside and yes this applies for the farangs also and Alex goes in free with as many people as he wants, you just need to be humble and down to earth. I used to do a lot of clubs BKK but that was 10 years ago I had a Thai GF who was 19 then and I learnt Thai in 6 months faster than she thought.
Have forgotten quite a bit bt still some of it is still in my dick oops I meant brain. I don't need to go to these page 3 parties or events, I want to know of a bar or club where normal Thais hangout for me to camouflage is not difficult loads of my brethren are pure Thais now with change in there names also so no issues.
Just for your knowledge Alex is a magnet in making friends at the bar so just need to know the place. Just this time I had so much fun in Spasso and Mixx I can't tell you my fellow brethren from my country of birth and my latest country of residence were not allowed in Mixx while I was being given a VVIP treatment don't think I am being proud or loud just that in these 13 years of mongering I've learnt how to find my way just need to know the place a bit.
And all the forum I read is about Go-gos and MP or soapies no fun in all that crap, until you don't get rejected by a lady you don't learn the fun of charming a lady. Its only in Thailand women crave for frang men here in Dubai the sexy Moroccans and Iranians will die but no go with a white man until he is super stashed with cash so its a differ lifestyle but indeed fun.
I am trying to ask many people about the good bars and clubs but no one replied, I think most of the punters in Thai or BKK forum are around 60 so clubs is off there agenda but for me that is the place to hunt and the thrill to hunt.
Cheers: guide me to some nice bars man and it will be fun trust me:
Alex
So I walked into Thermae tonight about 8 pm. It was completely deserted with perhaps 4 girls in there and zero punters. There were a few stragglers outside smoking cigarettes. I have only been once before in late March and it was packed. I would estimate the time of my March visit was around 7 pm.
What happened or did I go at the wrong time? I live in the neighborhood and could easily return. In fact, last night when I walked by there seemed to be quite a few FL's outside the steps. I even chatted up a Japanese looking girl for a bit but her English was not so good. She claimed to be from Chiang Mai.You were way too early. Would not think about going till about 1030 pm.
So I walked into Thermae tonight about 8 pm. It was completely deserted with perhaps 4 girls in there and zero punters. There were a few stragglers outside smoking cigarettes. I have only been once before in late March and it was packed. I would estimate the time of my March visit was around 7 pm.
What happened or did I go at the wrong time? I live in the neighborhood and could easily return. In fact, last night when I walked by there seemed to be quite a few FL's outside the steps. I even chatted up a Japanese looking girl for a bit but her English was not so good. She claimed to be from Chiang Mai.Unless there has been a recent change, Thermae isn't open until 8 pm. So on that occasion you and the stragglers were probably the first ones in after they unlocked the doors. Yes, very early. But I don't know if it is necessary to go as late as 10:30 pm. I am total non-Asian, Caucasian in my 60's, and have had several fine scores with lovely young ladies there as early as 9:30pm in, say, 3 out of 4 tries over the past few months. 2500 baht for low hassle Real GFE my way has been the norm.
I know a lot of guys, non-Asians, say the later the better in Thermae because most of the hottest girls are holding out for the supposedly over-paying, low demand Japanese customers and might be more amenable to a (reasonably) going rate-paying, higher demand Caucasian customer only as the night wears on. Maybe so. Maybe I would have gotten my deal for 2000 instead of 2500 if I'd gone shopping after midnight or later. Don't know since I prefer an earlier session, by around 10pm or so, and haven't been in Thermae in the wee hours of the AM in a while. Still, even as early as 9-9:30 pm arrival has worked out fine for me in Thermae over the past year.
You were way too early. Would not think about going till about 1030 pm.In the very old days (for me) which was 24 years ago, Thermae was a place to go very late, as it was owned by the Police and could stay open much later than other bars. Girls from go go bars with no customer would move on to the Thermae when their bars closed, or the Grace Hotel Coffee shop, or a disco, to still try to get a customer. So my early memories of going to Thermae would have been well after midnight, I believe. Many girls at Thermae were part time hookers, with other jobs, but needing to supplement their earnings. Shop assistant or Hotel Cleaner earnings were not very good at all. Girls could get a fuck and get some more money too. Those were the days when 500 Baht for LT was normal I think. The added advantage was no barfine. Some of the girls were indeed picky. While wanting to make money, they also wanted a guy that gave the right vibe. Sometimes girls would reject so many potential customers and end up with no customer at the end. I have been declined by girls on occasions. There were lots of very ordinary girls and just a few good lookers, usually. There was a Thermae Soapy massage upstairs from Thermae Coffee shop with fishbowl. I was regular customer. After my earliest Thermae experiences, it (the coffee shop only) moved location from quite close to corner of Soi 11 to the Ruamchit location.
I guess over the years it changed somewhat. I have not visited recently, but it was the favorite place for a Japanese friend of mine.
I remember my first Thermae girl was slim but had big wide slung tits. Great body. Great fuck. Strangely, to use hotel toilet, she did not sit on it, but stood on the seat and squatted. She obviously was not used to western toilets. She spoke to me in Thai (when my Thai was very weak) but used English pronouns (I and you) which confused me a lot. Mixed Thai and English can be difficult for the inexperienced. I took same girl several nights running, till her and her friend (both very good looking) had enough money to return to Phitsanulok, unfortunately. Should have taken both of them most likely. I had picked the one of the two that did not smoke. That was how I decided which one. Otherwise both seemed great.
Unless there has been a recent change, Thermae isn't open until 8 pm. So on that occasion you and the stragglers were probably the first ones in after they unlocked the doors. Yes, very early. But I don't know if it is necessary to go as late as 10:30 pm. I am total non-Asian, Caucasian in my 60's, and have had several fine scores with lovely young ladies there as early as 9:30pm in, say, 3 out of 4 tries over the past few months. 2500 baht for low hassle Real GFE my way has been the norm.
I know a lot of guys, non-Asians, say the later the better in Thermae because most of the hottest girls are holding out for the supposedly over-paying, low demand Japanese customers and might be more amenable to a (reasonably) going rate-paying, higher demand Caucasian customer only as the night wears on. Maybe so. Maybe I would have gotten my deal for 2000 instead of 2500 if I'd gone shopping after midnight or later. Don't know since I prefer an earlier session, by around 10pm or so, and haven't been in Thermae in the wee hours of the AM in a while. Still, even as early as 9-9:30 pm arrival has worked out fine for me in Thermae over the past year.Is it true that a lot many semi-pros or normal ladies hangout at thermae to make some extra income, doesn't sound true to me but people who have visited here quite often must be having latest ground info about the place.
I am still wondering if that is true?
I am assuming by your comment of 2500 baht that you are referring to short term price. Thanks everyone for the clarification of the best time to go. If it indeed does only open at 8 pm perhaps my earlier March visit was at a later time than I thought. It was packed that night though 90% Japanese.
Just a short funny story. A few nights ago before my mishap with the girl who wanted me to buy her friend a beer as well as her, I met a strikingly attractive and nice FL who told me she normally goes to the high end places such as Spasso's and Kuteda. The only reason she was in this decidedly downscale club was because she was with a women and friend of her mothers who was marrying a Thai guy (also in attendance). I got her number before she left for Climax as the rest of her group wanted to move there. I hate that place so did not join her.
She texted me the next afternoon to tell me she was at Climax until 4 am and personally dropped 10 k baht on drinks presumably for her friends and the wedding party.
Sounded like she felt terrible (as in hungover and regretful) plus very broke so I guess even FL's can throw money around.
Unless there has been a recent change, Thermae isn't open until 8 pm. So on that occasion you and the stragglers were probably the first ones in after they unlocked the doors. Yes, very early. But I don't know if it is necessary to go as late as 10:30 pm. I am total non-Asian, Caucasian in my 60's, and have had several fine scores with lovely young ladies there as early as 9:30pm in, say, 3 out of 4 tries over the past few months. 2500 baht for low hassle Real GFE my way has been the norm.
I know a lot of guys, non-Asians, say the later the better in Thermae because most of the hottest girls are holding out for the supposedly over-paying, low demand Japanese customers and might be more amenable to a (reasonably) going rate-paying, higher demand Caucasian customer only as the night wears on. Maybe so. Maybe I would have gotten my deal for 2000 instead of 2500 if I'd gone shopping after midnight or later. Don't know since I prefer an earlier session, by around 10pm or so, and haven't been in Thermae in the wee hours of the AM in a while. Still, even as early as 9-9:30 pm arrival has worked out fine for me in Thermae over the past year.
Old New Guy
05-13-16, 08:12
Don't worry ONG, been there done that in China and Hong Kong, doing it now in Dubai ...
this applies for the farangs also and Alex goes in free with as many people as he wants
... I learnt Thai in 6 months faster than she thought.
... for me to camouflage is not difficult loads of my brethren are pure Thais now with change in there names also so no issues.
... Just for your knowledge Alex is a magnet in making friends at the bar so just need to know the place.
... I was being given a VVIP treatment don't think I am being proud or loud just (!!!)
... Its only in Thailand women crave for frang men
Cheers: guide me to some nice bars man and it will be fun trust me:
I'm surprised that a resourceful international playboy like you doesn't know where most clubs are in Bangkok, so I'll be happy to give you this enabler to your indubitable success: clubs for Thai are on Phetchaburi.
I'm surprised that a resourceful international playboy like you doesn't know where most clubs are in Bangkok, so I'll be happy to give you this enabler to your indubitable success: clubs for Thai are on Phetchaburi.ONG,
RCA clubs I've done: Hollywood have done, don't know about Gentleman Clubs as I have never tried them they seem tempting but still to venture in them, The farang pickup clubs of Levels, Spasso, Mixx, climax, shock, spicy, bossy, insanity all done.
This time tried Oskar, Spasso and Kudeta and liked the vibe there. Now the urge is to try nice bars where there is less music so we can have a conversation as I am also getting old and more busy in work so that we can have early evening action lets say 5-7 pm when women from most jobs get free, bankers, secretaries, or maybe some uni students making to earn the extra bucks.
I am wrong mostly as scene in BKK has changed a lot when I visited this time its getting more and more hardcore but the hunt should keep on continue and dude I can't solve jigsaw puzzles neither do I write puzzles in my FRs, simple guy simple thoughts about sex and women.
If the place is good and you have tried it send me a link with a FR if it is already written about the place I will try and write my FR simple, if not its OK we will find.
Chill,
Alex
I am assuming by your comment of 2500 baht that you are referring to short term price. Thanks everyone for the clarification of the best time to go. If it indeed does only open at 8 pm perhaps my earlier March visit was at a later time than I thought. It was packed that night though 90% Japanese.
Just a short funny story. A few nights ago before my mishap with the girl who wanted me to buy her friend a beer as well as her, I met a strikingly attractive and nice FL who told me she normally goes to the high end places such as Spasso's and Kuteda. The only reason she was in this decidedly downscale club was because she was with a women and friend of her mothers who was marrying a Thai guy (also in attendance). I got her number before she left for Climax as the rest of her group wanted to move there. I hate that place so did not join her.
She texted me the next afternoon to tell me she was at Climax until 4 am and personally dropped 10 k baht on drinks presumably for her friends and the wedding party.
Sounded like she felt terrible (as in hungover and regretful) plus very broke so I guess even FL's can throw money around.Yes, in my case I was referring to Short Time. I think 2000-2500 is about normal for Short Time with all but the most desperate (1000-1500?) girls in Thermae or the most popular (3000+?). I suspect any pick ups standing in Thermae regularly asking for and getting more than 3000 for Short Time from anyone other than the least informed newbies would be super standouts beauty-wise and must not have heard about Mixx or Spasso (or so I've heard).
And on your other story, it is my belief that these P4 P girls blow through big money even faster than small money and are just as broke and in need of my 2000-2500 (or whatever is the going rate for a venue) on Thursday as if they'd never laid hands on 5,000+ some nut paid them for the same service on Wednesday. LOL. And that feeds into my oft-stated contention that some customers overpaying doesn't do nearly the harm in terms of declining quality of service or value for money re rising prices as do too many low demand customers paying the going rate for lousy or weak service. Just my humble opinion of course.
I am reading 2. 5 K for short time, what is LT then 4-5 K now? How about taking a girl if I happen to fancy one a lot to islands for 2-3 days what's the expectation there?
Uncle Volodya
05-13-16, 16:29
But a nice place definitely worth a visit a tad higher than levels, but if you are looking for classy ladies do try Spasso or Mixx both have a nice collection of very beautiful Thai ladies Spasso is much better as it is less loud and more easy for a conversation and no way you need to pay more than 3 k for an all night to a Thai floor that's more than enough she we will be delightful in Esctacy.
AlexHi Alex (you sexy beast! 555.
Thanks for this info. I have never tried Spasso as I was under the impression that the ladies are older (30+) and that prices are high (5 K and up). This is not a good combo for me.
But, if I read you post correctly, you are saying that the girls will go for 3 K. Did I get that right? Please confirm as this would change my attitude about the place. A classy, sexy, older lady at 3 K sounds intriguing.
I always enjoy your crazy posts. Keep on partying brother man!
Hi Alex (you sexy beast! 555.
Thanks for this info. I have never tried Spasso as I was under the impression that the ladies are older (30+) and that prices are high (5 K and up). This is not a good combo for me.
But, if I read you post correctly, you are saying that the girls will go for 3 K. Did I get that right? Please confirm as this would change my attitude about the place. A classy, sexy, older lady at 3 K sounds intriguing.
I always enjoy your crazy posts. Keep on partying brother man!Yo Uncle V.
I tell this to everybody even in the DXB forum, I never even initiate the talk of money just say yes I know the system and I will take care of you just relax have a great night. But then when we party with the lady she enjoys Alex's hospitality with drinks food and our small home in Davis.
3 k is what I paid to both all the Thai ladies, just this Uzbek got the better of me one day rest no babe even said a word to me about money, the Colombian didn't even take a single baht and is waiting for me in BKK when I land there.
Yes the ladies are all very classy dressed in Spasso, Uncle V you need to check out Oskar also go there around 8 ish nice food again classier females all Thais and men all farang but gain a very classy place.
Thanks for your support I just write my heart nothing great just true incidents I write and my feelings but this time I want to spend time in Phuket and I am looking for a nice villa on beach with private pool and driver who has a car so that everything is taken care of by him.
Chill and cheers.
Alex.
Uncle Volodya
05-14-16, 06:25
Yo Uncle V.
I tell this to everybody even in the DXB forum, I never even initiate the talk of money just say yes I know the system and I will take care of you just relax have a great night. But then when we party with the lady she enjoys Alex's hospitality with drinks food and our small home in Davis.
3 k is what I paid to both all the Thai ladies, just this Uzbek got the better of me one day rest no babe even said a word to me about money, the Colombian didn't even take a single baht and is waiting for me in BKK when I land there.
Yes the ladies are all very classy dressed in Spasso, Uncle V you need to check out Oskar also go there around 8 ish nice food again classier females all Thais and men all farang but gain a very classy place.
Thanks for your support I just write my heart nothing great just true incidents I write and my feelings but this time I want to spend time in Phuket and I am looking for a nice villa on beach with private pool and driver who has a car so that everything is taken care of by him.
Chill and cheers.
Alex.Thanks Alex. I will have to check it out.
I've bene to Oskar's and picked up some cute girls I saw there later at Levels. Nice chill, mellow place. Good Falang food too and well made cocktails. Nice change of pace from the usual club atmosphere.
Wolvenvacht
05-14-16, 07:52
Sounded like she felt terrible (as in hungover and regretful) plus very broke so I guess even FL's can throw money around.
And that is the very reason they will have to remain on the Game. The money they make will be gone just as fast as it reaches them.
Thanks Alex. I will have to check it out.
I've bene to Oskar's and picked up some cute girls I saw there later at Levels. Nice chill, mellow place. Good Falang food too and well made cocktails. Nice change of pace from the usual club atmosphere.Uncle V,
Next time when in BKK also try the den at the back side of insanity in the same Soi, starts at around 3 pm very cool chilled out place very posh very classy and some nice chicks to be had there, I have not tried it but heard good reviews about it. If I hear BKK before I will definitely try this and thermae both.
No other new place I am aware of, if you are aware do let me know.
Cheers.
Alex
Exactly: the rainy day fund idea does not seem to exist with these girls. Another reason I did not join this girl and her party at Climax, besides hating that fire trap in the waiting, was the thought that I most assuredly would been caught up in the BMD game. I am damn sure that I have never spent that much on a night out in Bangkok and that includes any girl fees.
And that is the very reason they will have to remain on the Game. The money they make will be gone just as fast as it reaches them.
I stopped by Thermae today, they open at 8 Pm and close at 1 am according to the sign. Quite busy at 8 PM and I'd say 90 percent customers were Japanese.
I stopped by Thermae today, they open at 8 Pm and close at 1 am according to the sign. Quite busy at 8 PM and I'd say 90 percent customers were Japanese.Hey Sean,
How about the women scene in thermae at 8 pm?
I am reading 2. 5 K for short time, what is LT then 4-5 K now? How about taking a girl if I happen to fancy one a lot to islands for 2-3 days what's the expectation there?2500 Baht for ST is the going rate at Thermae. My experience at Thermae has not been good:
Last year, I offered 2000 Baht (for ST) and the girl refused. It surprised me since 2000 for ST is NOT a low rate.
Moreover, it was between 11 pm and Midnight when girls want to strike deals. I then approached another girl, who politely responded: "Sorry, Japanese only".
I have not visited Thermae since this visit in 2015.
~BKKguru.
2500 Baht for ST is the going rate at Thermae. My experience at Thermae has not been good:
Last year, I offered 2000 Baht (for ST) and the girl refused. It surprised me since 2000 for ST is NOT a low rate.
Moreover, it was between 11 pm and Midnight when girls want to strike deals. I then approached another girl, who politely responded: "Sorry, Japanese only".
I have not visited Thermae since this visit in 2015.
~BKKguru.I frequented Thermae for about 8 years. In fact, I was there on average 3 to 4 nights a week from 99 to 07. Can't tell you how many gals I pulled from there. The majority were very good experiences. Probably a 90 plus percent success rate. Also paid every one of them 1000 Baht. What made Thermae great was not only the volume of gals, but the fun you could have there. Gals were dancing by the juke box, moving around the room, grabbing your unit, propositioning you, and drinking. It was one big party every night. Now the gals don't drink and stand against the walls and booths like people bored at a school dance. It has morphed into a 100% Asian style scene. Before 01 there were no Japanese in Thermae. Then they slowly creeped in. Starting at first by taking over the back right corner of the room and over the years the entire bar. By 04 there were gals that were Japanese only but at that time they were well in the minority. What sent the Japanese census through the roof was the closing of the Siam City Hotel Coffee Shop. Located on Phetchaburi it was the Asia Thermae. We would go there on occasion as they had great food and the "show" was pretty good. Gals wanted 1500 Baht and most would go with Farang, although some were Asian only. The hotel was torn down and at that point the Asian clientele started going to Thermae. By the late 00's Thermae was not as Farang friendly and the prices started to creep up, first to 1500 and now as one person reported 2500. I do have a few friends who go there and they are still paying 2000, but the number of lookers who will go with Farang is dwindling. I can barely stand to go in the place these days; it's a shadow of its former self and I just become too nostalgic. I do love the wait staff. They are the best group of dudes in the city. Even now on my twice a year forays in, Khun Somchai comes up to me, greets me by name, and ask me if I want my usual drink. I have so many great memories of that place.
What sent the Japanese census through the roof was the closing of the Siam City Hotel Coffee Shop. Located on Phetchaburi it was the Asia Thermae. We would go there on occasion as they had great food and the "show" was pretty good. I think you have the name of the Hotel slightly wrong. Siam City Hotel is in Sri Ayutthaya Road and I doubt torn down. It is approx. Opposite J One Soapy. I used to live in that area part time. So your Hotel must have a slightly different name.
Are you meaning the one that used to be near to corner of Phetchburi and Phet Uthai, not that far from La Belle Soapy and Kampaeng Phet 7 Alley? Just a wild guess.
And that is the very reason they will have to remain on the Game. The money they make will be gone just as fast as it reaches them.As for bargirls, I am seeing a lot of bargirls are only turning up to work when they need money. The bar is a pretty boring place to work. Not many girls are loving it, and not many are really diligent, turning up to work everyday and on time. Depends on level of being desperate for money. Girls that rarely get barfined, have to attend regularly, in order to get some monthly salary. Girls that can get a barfine, only show up when they can motivate themselves. So many of my favorite girls are attending quite irregularly.
Girls that did bar work for many years are even more bored by it. Show to up to work for a regular groping by stingy customers who don't want to barfine the girl and also don't want to buy drinks? So the standard of the girls can decline. Why would really pretty girls want to put up with that shit? What they do have over MP girls, is the ability to reject customers, and run away from them. Also MP girls are expected to show up almost every day at plenty of shops, if not away up country.
How many of these bargirls have significant money in the bank? Somewhat few I would bet. Where is their future? I know of two that are working bar to finance studies, and would intend to quit in 2 to 3 years time, but that is also not the norm.
One older bargirl over 30 must have had plenty of money in the bank, since she was able to afford an expensive private hospital, when she had blood poisoning. Others are getting enough money for nose and tit jobs, but usually not top quality.
I stopped by Thermae again for a drink on my way to Mixx around midnight. On Sat they close at 2:30 AM. It was packed. Reading some of the reports below they describe it exactly how it is. I tried speaking with couple of girls and they refused. I wasn't even trying to take them out, just wanted to chat. T.
The clientele is predominately Japanese. I get a lot of friendly looks however, so it's not impossible to take one out, but it sucks to get refused by a hoe. I think the hottest ones will hold out for a Japanese client there.
Beer is 100, wisky cola is 110. Staff are great I could not agree more.
Mixx was alright, nice club, lots of older CIS (30's) girls. BTW Spicy is closed at least according to several taxi drivers.
Was in Baccara earlier that day, took a girl to hotel, she insisted on turning off all lights in the room and I sent her back with 50 bhat for taxi. Shit happens I guess.
I visited Thermae years ago and it was amazing. I have been under the impression that for many years now older falangs have no chance at getting a girl. It was a Japanese and Korean only place for the most part. Have things changed recently? Does an older westerner have a chance to get a pretty girl there?
Was in Baccara earlier that day, took a girl to hotel, she insisted on turning off all lights in the room and I sent her back with 50 bhat for taxi. Shit happens I guess.Shit, I need the lights on to make absolutely sure it's really a girl.
One girl I like a lot, knows just how pretty she is from head to toe, and how to flaunt it. She is willing to spread her legs and spread her pussy lips showing her pretty pink hole and masturbate herself a bit, as she knows it will turn me on. Claims she likes sex a lot too. Fucks with enthusiasm, dances nude.
If the girl need the lights off, what is she hiding? Some girls need the lights dimmed a bit, as claim it shines in their eyes when they are not on top. If the customer is really ugly, they can just shut their eyes.
I am not a big fan of 3 somes as years of futile attempts to duplicate a PSE has provided only limited satisfaction. Indeed, I have not had one since being in Thailand and my last one was a regretful occasion in Sanur, Bali the previous winter that almost swore me off the whole idea.
Last night I was in my favorite haunt in a club off Suk hanging with an old buddy and had more or less decided to take the night off and enjoy the live music and vibe of this place. Around 1 am, two girls came in and asked to share my standing table. One girl I had met earlier this winter and had almost taken out a few months ago. She has the cute girl next door look, albeit some crooked teeth, and seemed like a genuine nice person. The reason we did not leave together that night (earlier in the winter) was due to a girl who I had banged a few times and was in the bar that night. When she saw me dancing with this girl, she came over and slapped me on the temple, and gave the girl a rash of crap about me. None of which I understood as it was in Thai but this girl has been wary of me ever since. I found out later last evening that the girl had said I was a bad guy etc. I guess she was pissed that she was losing a steady customer?
Her agressive friend, however, had no such qualms or knowledge of this prior incident, and almost immediately started grabbing the precious jewels under the table, stroking my nipples over my shirt, and literally trying to open my zipper. After I bought her the requisite beer and several songs later, she asked if I wanted to go with her or the both of them. This girl was pretty hot, young, and some of the older gals were exhibiting disapproving glances for her overall overt sexy behavior with me. However, the other girl still seemed reluctant until I explained that the girl who slapped me was definitely not my girl friend, so no worries. We agreed to a price of 2500 baht each and returned to my nearby apartment by 2 am.
Sitting on my couch, we reconfirmed the price and the aggressive girl said short term. I asked how long for short term and how many shots to which she replied 2 hours and as many shots as I could handle. Ok. Game on. In a few short minutes, we were all in my bedroom. Being the gentleman, I decided that I should take the girl I knew from earlier this winter first. One thing I had to be careful about was that both girls were all over me with tongues, nails, and well placed fingers. My biggest concern was blowing my wad early what with all the excitement but by controlling the situation a bit, I got into a rythm of banging and dining at the 'Y' with the first girl. I was also delighted to see the aggressive girl sucking the breasts of her friend while I dined at her friends nicely shaved V, occasionally alternating between them for good measure. There were no restrictions. In fact, I could kiss either girl even if I had been slurping on the other. I even took one girls finger and slipped it in the other girls pussy while she sucked her breasts.
Usually, interaction between girls are limited in these scenarios but I was somewhat successful in seeing some mutual physical contact between both girls. The girl with the crooked teeth turned out to be a delightful kisser especially when I exploded inside her. I could not hold back, once the other more agressive girl from the bar, stroked my balls and ass while I banged her friend. Many positions were undertaken and the most memorable was banging the aggressive girl while the other girl straddled her standing up and I licked her sweet pussy.
Towards the last orgasm, counting three for the evening activities, the aggressive girl who had been somewhat reluctant in the bedroom to fuck, though she was doing yeoman like work in other regards, was urged by the other girl to mount me. This girl actually said to the other 'I will show you how' as if the other girl was unfamiliar with cowgirl. Not certain what that was about as the agressive girl certainly rode me like it was not her first rodeo. I came hard inside her as the crooked teeth girl deep slurped my tongue.
After coming, it continued on and I finally told them to stop or slow down as they literally kept trying to jack me off, stroke me and appeared for all intensive purposes to be rather insatiable. Frankly, I could not believe it as I figured they by now would be attempting to wrap things up as it were. We finally slept for about an hour with me in the middle (how delightful) and they left at 5 am so they stayed three hours in total at my apartment.
My only regret was I forgot to take photos. Damn it! However, one thing that led a nice comfort level to the 3some was being acquainted beforehand with the first gal so perhaps a repeat may be on the horizon.
I visited Thermae years ago and it was amazing. I have been under the impression that for many years now older falangs have no chance at getting a girl. It was a Japanese and Korean only place for the most part. Have things changed recently? Does an older westerner have a chance to get a pretty girl there?I'm neither old nor ugly I think the place just caters to lower class Japanese, that's not to say you can't take out from there.
A non-bargirl lovely oily lady once confided to me that even though she had been very successful for several years, she did not have a bank account. Although this is quite common in developing countries, she would have been seeing hundreds of customers a year, probably close to 1000 a year and would have made a sizeable (tax free) fortune.
How many of these bargirls have significant money in the bank? Somewhat few I would bet. Where is their future? I know of two that are working bar to finance studies, and would intend to quit in 2 to 3 years time, but that is also not the norm.
One older bargirl over 30 must have had plenty of money in the bank, since she was able to afford an expensive private hospital, when she had blood poisoning. Others are getting enough money for nose and tit jobs, but usually not top quality.
Old New Guy
05-15-16, 12:34
A non-bargirl lovely oily lady once confided to me that even though she had been very successful for several years, she did not have a bank account. Although this is quite common in developing countries, she would have been seeing hundreds of customers a year, probably close to 1000 a year and would have made a sizeable (tax free) fortune.Not even said. Has she fessed up about savings to her family, one way or another she would have been virtually forced to surrender at least a large part. Normally the mother is the main receiver. Instead she probably sent the money a bit at time, to maintain her child (s).
Old New Guy
05-15-16, 12:41
Was in Baccara earlier that day, took a girl to hotel, she insisted on turning off all lights in the room and I sent her back with 50 bhat for taxi. Shit happens I guess.Well done man. Investment capital untouched, and better luck today.
However, one thing that led a nice comfort level to the 3some was being acquainted beforehand with the first gal so perhaps a repeat may be on the horizon.
And bingo there! Threesomes are so hard to put up together, congrats!
Old New Guy
05-15-16, 12:52
I then approached another girl, who politely responded: "Sorry, Japanese only".Which by inference means that the woman is, at best, a sexual underperformer (by our standards), and you was spared the disappointment. Watch any Japanese porn video for confirmation. For a Japanese having a PSE is not that difficult, just carry a full bag of sextyoys and keep underwear on for half of the time.
I'm not sure what a GFE experience would be, but I suspect Anime looks and Cosplay would be involved.
Uncle Volodya
05-15-16, 14:00
My only regret was I forgot to take photos. Damn it! However, one thing that led a nice comfort level to the 3some was being acquainted beforehand with the first gal so perhaps a repeat may be on the horizon.Amazing experience man. You certainly hit the jackpot! The stuff that (wet) dreams are made of. 555.
I don't have all that much experience with 3somes (and its not something I normally look for). But when they have happened to me its always been a kind of spontaneous thing and has workled otu pretty well (though never as good as it did for you).
The girls are eager enough to please me but its difficult to get them to get going with each other. The one real exception was an experience at devil's den about 6 years ago. Me and one girl DPed the other (her using a strap on) in various positions. Of course DD so it was a bti stage managed on my part. But it was still hot!
Now what you had sounds much more spontaneous and genuine. I hope you got their contacts and can repeat.
Uncle Volodya
05-15-16, 14:11
Uncle V,
Next time when in BKK also try the den at the back side of insanity in the same Soi, starts at around 3 pm very cool chilled out place very posh very classy and some nice chicks to be had there, I have not tried it but heard good reviews about it. If I hear BKK before I will definitely try this and thermae both.
No other new place I am aware of, if you are aware do let me know.
Cheers.
AlexI spent a few hours there back in December. Beautiful interior ambiance. Red velvet and wood. A shark tank above the bar with baby sharks swimming around. Super cool.
Unfortunately the girls are not all that hot. I had a good time hanging out with one who was kind of cute and one of the best ones there. I bought her a few drinks and we cozied up and kissed etc. But she didn't really do it for me and I ended up leaving without any action after an hour or so. I did leave her a nice tip as I felt bad that she may have missed out on some business.
Member #4698
05-15-16, 15:11
I spent a few hours there back in December. Beautiful interior ambiance. Red velvet and wood. A shark tank above the bar with baby sharks swimming around. Super cool.
Unfortunately the girls are not all that hot. I had a good time hanging out with one who was kind of cute and one of the best ones there. I bought her a few drinks and we cozied up and kissed etc. But she didn't really do it for me and I ended up leaving without any action after an hour or so. I did leave her a nice tip.I had a very similar take and experience when I dropped by the Den in March. I was staying close by at the Centre Point Hotel on Soi 10 at the time and on one lazy hot afternoon I walked into the place at around 4 pm. The place was a cool, dark, friendly oasis. There were a few other customers scattered around, more arrived while I was there and everybody seemed to be having a good time. Many of the customers looked like regulars to me. One guy was playing pool with two girls.
I sat down on one of the couches near the back and accepted the attention of one of the better looking girls. Her name was Nan and she was a very nice girl. She told me she was 35. I imagine that when she was younger she was quite attractive. She wasn't bad even now, but her main positive today is her warm, friendly, sexual personality. She makes you think that she is there to make you feel good and she definitely knows what she is doing, ha ha, so over the course of the next 90 minutes, I bought her a couple of drinks, we got friendly, and we made out while she rubbed my dick.
All in all I think she was a real nice girl and I had a good time. I did not barfine her, however, because I knew I was going to hook up with my favourite Crazy House girl in a few hours. I gave Nan a generous tip for her time and effort. She practically begged me to come back and see her again. I empathized with her situation and I told her I would try to come back to see her, but I was intentionally vague on when. As it turned out, I never did go back because, well you guys know why, there is too much going on elsewhere. But Nan was a real nice girl and in pretty good shape for 35 ie she was still sexy. And once in a while I like to step out of my preferred girl demographics and do an older girl. I am sure Nan would have shown me a good time. I believe she said her price is 2000 bt for short time which is a little steep, but not outrageous.
So while I totally agree with your description of the place, Uncle V, I think the Den is an ok place to while away a hot lazy late afternoon in BKK and have a cool one. In my case a coke light. 555.
I did do an older gal later in my trip. My older gal now owns two massage shops in the Soi 11 Ambassador Hotel Arcade. I first met her in October, 2015 while she was hanging out trying to drum up business on Soi 11 late at night with a few of her girls. She tried to put one of her girls with me, but I wanted her so we shagged in her shop and she showed me a real good time. I bumped into her again this trip and she was real excited to show me her new massage shop which she had just renovated. It was nice to see her again and we had a very satisfying reunion shag in her new place which she renovated quite well. Yeah, I shagged the mamasan. 2 times. LOL. And I liked it.
I think you have the name of the Hotel slightly wrong. Siam City Hotel is in Sri Ayutthaya Road and I doubt torn down. It is approx. Opposite J One Soapy. I used to live in that area part time. So your Hotel must have a slightly different name.
Are you meaning the one that used to be near to corner of Phetchburi and Phet Uthai, not that far from La Belle Soapy and Kampaeng Phet 7 Alley? Just a wild guess.Actually you are correct. The hotel in question was the Siam Hotel, not the Siam City Hotel. And yes, that was the location.
Uncle Volodya
05-15-16, 16:24
p. My older gal now owns two massage shops in the Soi 11 Ambassador Hotel Arcade. I first met her in October, 2015 while she was hanging out trying to drum up business on Soi 11 late at night with a few of her girls. She tried to put one of her girls with me, but I wanted her so we shagged in her shop and she showed me a real good time. I bumped into her again this trip and she was real excited to show me her new massage shop which she had just renovated. It was nice to see her again and we had a very satisfying reunion shag in her new place which she renovated quite well. Yeah, I shagged the mamasan. 2 times. LOL. And I liked it.Good for her!
And good for you!
I am also getting to like the older girls. My best chick this trip was 30. A little older than I am used to. But still a looker. Slim figure, nice long legs, and the softest skin of any girl I have been with. Btu most importantly an absolute tigress in bed. Screaming like banshee when she came.
She just couldn't get enough! On our 2nd to last night she came 4 times before we went out dancing, 5 times when we got back and 2 more times in the morning. I had to tear myself away as I had errands to run my last day in town. Otherwise who knows when it would end.
A keeper for sure. I will meet her again in August. I may even take her for a little side trip to an island somewhere.
I will email you with pics and details soon brother!
Stay horny Natty!
Uncle-V.
I spent a few hours there back in December. Beautiful interior ambiance. Red velvet and wood. A shark tank above the bar with baby sharks swimming around. Super cool.
Unfortunately the girls are not all that hot. I had a good time hanging out with one who was kind of cute and one of the best ones there. I bought her a few drinks and we cozied up and kissed etc. But she didn't really do it for me and I ended up leaving without any action after an hour or so. I did leave her a nice tip as I felt bad that she may have missed out on some business.Uncle V,
You are a master of pussy in L o Sex, any other nice bar or place like den which can be tried on this trip to BKK. I will be in BKK only for a couple of days as I want to spend some time in Phuket this time. Just that I have not been able to finalize the villa or nice apartment or hotel in Phuket is what is stopping from going to Phuket other wise I would have gone till now.
I actually rescheduled my ticket of BKK-HKT thrice as I could not finalize a beach side secluded villa in Phuket and in the end I had to cancel the Phuket part and come back.
You are a veteran of BKK any other place like the den for early evening action or where office workers, bankers, hotel staff or mall sales girls or anything else you know do guide me.
Cheers.
Alex.
I had a very similar take and experience when I dropped by the Den in March. I was staying close by at the Centre Point Hotel on Soi 10 at the time and on one lazy hot afternoon I walked into the place at around 4 pm. The place was a cool, dark, friendly oasis. There were a few other customers scattered around, more arrived while I was there and everybody seemed to be having a good time. Many of the customers looked like regulars to me. One guy was playing pool with two girls.
I sat down on one of the couches near the back and accepted the attention of one of the better looking girls. Her name was Nan and she was a very nice girl. She told me she was 35. I imagine that when she was younger she was quite attractive. She wasn't bad even now, but her main positive today is her warm, friendly, sexual personality. She makes you think that she is there to make you feel good and she definitely knows what she is doing, ha ha, so over the course of the next 90 minutes, I bought her a couple of drinks, we got friendly, and we made out while she rubbed my dick..Hey NB,
Any other place you came across like the den in BKK or some nice bar or early evening place like Oskar. I want to change my mongering in BKK as now I am planning to set up our Thailand operations so will need to be up by 9 am and work for a couple of hours in these next few trips so an early evening action will be great as I love to wine and dine and its fun to pick and choose women from a nice place make her a bit drink and then enjoy sex, I don't like one way style sex I like my women to be equally involved and that's only possible when she is relaxed by alcohol and good food just my thought.
You are a veteran in the BKK scene guide me man and I will be more than happy to try and see the difference from night clubs scene and then this early evening pick up scene. Even the thermae pick up scene does not activate before 9 pm I am looking for more of a 9 pm back home hump sleep then hump early morning and off to work. In Dubai we have an amazing early morning scenes about 3 or 4 places where you can find pussy at 5-7 am also.
Cheers.
Alex.
Hi.
I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available at the moment?
Thanks.
I visited Thermae years ago and it was amazing. I have been under the impression that for many years now older falangs have no chance at getting a girl. It was a Japanese and Korean only place for the most part. Have things changed recently? Does an older westerner have a chance to get a pretty girl there?A couple of years ago I would have said the same thing about Thermae. I am a 63 year old white guy. In full disclosure, I am fairly bar-fluent in the Thai language, or can mix it up with Thai / English enough to get the necessary questions asked and understand the answers. But most importantly I know enough Thai to put the girl a bit more at ease with the basic greetings, how are you, my name is, what is your name sort of stuff. And I exercise regularly enough to maintain a decent proportionate weight to height ratio for whatever that might be worth. I suspect in Thermae it might be worth something if you are a non-Asian farang. Am always freshly showered, wearing fresh clothes, and when I am on a Thermae run I tend to wear long pants, real shoes no flip-flops and a collared shirt, not necessarily a dress shirt, might be a polo shirt. But not just a t-shirt. I suspect those details also matter when it comes to Thermae girls. For farangs, that is.
Despite taking those measures, my experience going there a couple of years ago still produced near zero vibes for my patronage among the girls, or at least from the better looking girls I wanted to take. And my somewhat direct early, discrete and private interview question about whether the girl is up for a BBBJ+CIM with me (my pursuit of a Real GFE re FS is generally held off until we are alone in my apartment, assuming I have gotten the right response to that BBBJ+CIM question, where the likelihood of the reply being "ok" for a Real GFE is far greater than in a bar) was usually met with wide-eyed shock, recoiling and a definite "No! You will never find a Thai lady who does like that!"
Uh. Ok.
HOWEVER, this past year has been quite different for me. The last 5-6 times I have gone there I have definitely felt very positive vibes from the girls about desiring my patronage. Talking about some better looking girls in the place, not just the hard cases. I am also talking about girls cutting their gaze through the crowds of Asian guys in there to get my attention, too. And I have gotten unambiguous "Yes" replies to my key interview question (see above).
In the past few months, I have taken a Thermae girl every time I've gone in there planning to take one (at least 5 times) and they have been fine experiences for me in my apartment. In fact, I don't remember even getting to that BBBJ+CIM agreement most of them made in the bar because we were too busy enjoying what I now refer to as a Real GFE instead. In one case I was so smitten by the girl I didn't ask her any questions re sex in the bar at all, just chatted in our Thai / English for a moment and off we went. But that one also turned into a Real GFE.
Maybe I was just lucky 5 times in a row at Thermae. Anything is possible. But the difference between what I'd heard about Thermae girls only being interested or overwhelmingly interested in Asian customers rather than farangs, mostly only going for the low-demand customers along with my own experiences a couple of years ago vs what I have been experiencing there this past year or so is rather dramatic.
BTW, I don't wait until after 10:30 PM-11 PM to go shopping in Thermae, although that might have been the case back when I was getting rejected so often a couple of years ago. Not now. These days, I hit Thermae around 9:30 PM-10 PM and my success rate in getting what I want from there is far better than it was when I was going in there later. Typical final number comes in at 2,500 baht, and have taken a couple of girls for 2,000. Those 2,000 baht girls sent me Line messages afterwards asking for repeats, too.
Uncle Volodya
05-16-16, 06:41
Maybe I was just lucky 5 times in a row at Thermae. Anything is possible. But the difference between what I'd heard about Thermae girls only being interested or overwhelmingly interested in Asian customers rather than farangs, mostly only going for the low-demand customers along with my own experiences a couple of years ago vs what I have been experiencing there this past year or so is rather dramatic.
BTW, I don't wait until after 10:30 PM-11 PM to go shopping in Thermae, although that might have been the case back when I was getting rejected so often a couple of years ago. Not now. These days, I hit Thermae around 9:30 PM-10 PM and my success rate in getting what I want from there is far better than it was when I was going in there later. Typical final number comes in at 2,500 baht, and have taken a couple of girls for 2,000. Those 2,000 baht girls sent me Line messages afterwards asking for repeats, too.Thanks for this man. I too use to have great success at Thermae. Btu the last couple of times I have gone (all last year) I have found that the best lookers ignored me and seemed only interested in Asian clients.
Your post makes me want to give it another try.
One question: Were you taking these girls for ST? This is what I assume considering the price you paid.
Uncle Volodya
05-16-16, 06:54
Uncle V,
You are a master of pussy in L o Sex, any other nice bar or place like den which can be tried on this trip to BKK. I will be in BKK only for a couple of days as I want to spend some time in Phuket this time. Just that I have not been able to finalize the villa or nice apartment or hotel in Phuket is what is stopping from going to Phuket other wise I would have gone till now.
I actually rescheduled my ticket of BKK-HKT thrice as I could not finalize a beach side secluded villa in Phuket and in the end I had to cancel the Phuket part and come back.
You are a veteran of BKK any other place like the den for early evening action or where office workers, bankers, hotel staff or mall sales girls or anything else you know do guide me.
Cheers.
Alex.Thanks man. You are too kind. Form your posts it sounds like you have way more experience than me.
You ask a tough question. The only early evening option, aside form Soapies and MPs (and the Den) I can think of is Bier Garden Soi 7 or the Hillary bars.
I am not the biggest fan of these place. The girl quality is not all that great. And both are cheap charlie kind of scenes. I know you are a high roller kind of guy and you may not enjoy the ambiance there. But you can sometimes find a diamond in the rough at Biergarten and it does attract part time girls too. And the place is laid out pretty well so you can walk through there for a quick look without wasting too much time.
Another idea, if you will be in town for awhile is to hit the MPs like Angels, Snow White, and Lord your first few days to develop some contacts. You seem like a gregarious and charming guy and, if they like you, these girls will see you outside working hours or do an LT takeout. After a week or two you should have a nice list of contacts from these places who are willing to come over for dinner and LT. But you will probably have to pay some kind of fine for the work time they miss (in addition to the lady's fee).
It was Sunday. I did not bother to look in CH after the football game finished, expecting weak line up. I thought I might check the very pretty Coyotes in Mercury bar instead. There were two of them previously Palm and Faay, I think.
They were not present, in fact Mercury had no coyotes at all. My favorite slim gogo dancer Noi, was working, with spectacular ass, however she was obviously a bit drunk. Many drinks from previous customer, or the Yaa Dong (herbal alcoholic drink the bar girls take free to eliminate or reduce inhibitions).
She says she is too drunk for an extended fuck, so I decide to party with her a drink myself. I normally do not drink alcohol. Had a Tequilas, and a gin tonic, and a Baileys. She tasted my Baileys and liked it so we got Baileys with milk for her and tequilas.
Most of the gogo girls were pretty average to crappy. Noi was easily the pick of them. What kept me in the place was purely the DJ selected a very good set on music for dancing. Apparently their is a young guy early in evening as DJ who has crap music and the guy that starts at 11 PM has very danceable songs much more to my taste (for my age) and some fun Thai music as well.
Another day I will check out Mandarin to see if some of the best Coyotes went there, or perhaps to other Nana or Cowboy bars with Coyotes.
Late I went back to Cowboy just to very quickly survey the Coyotes. Not many pretty ones were out the front of the bars really. Cowboy was already a bit dark. Was about 1. 30 am I guess. Another day project.
Stopped by "Easy bar", a portable street bar. Chatted briefly to the ladyboy "Eye", who had a really old Japanese customer, and a cute little 19 year old Noi from Chaiyaphum cuddled up to me. Quite pretty. Slim legs. Her shirt was covering, but seemed her tits were either big, or silicones. Silicones is less likely at age 19, but still possible I guess. She has only worked one month so unlikely she would have the money to make silicones. Her Bra was rather hard particularly underneath the tits. Tits felt a bit firmer than normal but not too hard. She asked if I would like to barfine her (500)? I said I would normally be interested, but not sure I could perform after plenty of alcoholic drinks. I cum too slow as it is, without any drinks. She said that was no matter, she could do all the work. LOL.
In the end being a bit tipsy probably helped persuade me to try her at the nearby Asoke Place ST Hotel. With her gear off, her skin was quite whitish. The tits were amazing. Not quite Dcups, BigCs, but very high, perfect nipples, expansive (sticking out from the her sides), very firm, not the slightest bit of sag, but all natural. Cute ass on the small side. Small waist. She wasn't a great kisser really. Seemed not into that much. However she was really into having her nipples kissed and licked, and same for her pussy and clit. Pussy Bush about 2 inches+ long (untrimmed). I suggested she might want to trim that sometime. She moved her hips to make the DATY very easy, squirmed and went a bit crazy. Clearly was into it big time IMHO. Fingers in pussy felt very smooth and very wet. Her BBBJ went very slow and soft just like I asked for and with ball tickling. She learns fast. Nice fuck in several positions and managed to cum okay In doggy, despite my earlier drinking. I once took a different cute faced girl from the same bar, who was pretty crap on the bed, despite experience and having 3 kids I believe. Just shows, it's a crap shoot, whether the girl can be really nice fuck or not, sometimes. Whether she makes it easy and whether she does some things right. I will try to get Noi slightly inebriated next time, as I have found that can improve girl's kissing and ability to lose herself in the moment.
Yes repeat for sure, for the amazing tits and good pussy. Ging at CH also has big tits, but her tits are somewhat more saggy (expected from the weight), where Noi's have no sag. It's like they just swelled up to something rather large. I don't have a pic of Noi's tits yet. Maybe next time.
Thanks Uncle V. I always appreciate your positive words.
To add one more tidbit to my threesome story, I had a couple of blindfolds provided from my international airline flights sitting on a side table during my romp. When one of the girls got into the cowgirl position, I briefly stopped and gave her the (black) blindfold which she willingly and enthusiastically donned. For whatever reason, this seemed to increase her eroticism of the moment and also enhanced the PSE for me. Shortly thereafter, my other friend also put on the other blindfold seeing the other girls reaction (Jet Blue so a blue one) as she sucked my dick. Maybe they were digging it because they did not have to look at me (555) or they just enjoyed doing something a little different.
So save those night blinders from the airlines. You never know when they will come in handy. Hmmm? Let's see where can I buy some of those velvet or silk gloves? 400 thread count, of course.
Amazing experience man. You certainly hit the jackpot! The stuff that (wet) dreams are made of. 555.
I don't have all that much experience with 3somes (and its not something I normally look for). But when they have happened to me its always been a kind of spontaneous thing and has workled otu pretty well (though never as good as it did for you).
The girls are eager enough to please me but its difficult to get them to get going with each other. The one real exception was an experience at devil's den about 6 years ago. Me and one girl DPed the other (her using a strap on) in various positions. Of course DD so it was a bti stage managed on my part. But it was still hot!
Now what you had sounds much more spontaneous and genuine. I hope you got their contacts and can repeat.
Thanks man. You are too kind. Form your posts it sounds like you have way more experience than me.
You ask a tough question. The only early evening option, aside form Soapies and MPs (and the Den) I can think of is Bier Garden Soi 7 or the Hillary bars.
I am not the biggest fan of these place. The girl quality is not all that great. And both are cheap charlie kind of scenes. I know you are a high roller kind of guy and you may not enjoy the ambiance there. But you can sometimes find a diamond in the rough at Biergarten and it does attract part time girls too. And the place is laid out pretty well so you can walk through there for a quick look without wasting too much time.
Another idea, if you will be in town for awhile is to hit the MPs like Angels, Snow White, and Lord your first few days to develop some contacts. You seem like a gregarious and charming guy and, if they like you, these girls will see you outside working hours or do an LT takeout. After a week or two you should have a nice list of contacts from these places who are willing to come over for dinner and LT. But you will probably have to pay some kind of fine for the work time they miss (in addition to the lady's fee).Uncle V,
I tried the Beergarden scene and also tried Gulliver which is opposite the beer garden or maybe nearby but women were never up to my taste or I went on wrong times I am not much of a chooser but I like nice places something like Spasso and Oskar and uncle v I am a simple guy with simple thoughts no high roller just that when I party or go out I like to have a good time.
You guys go out in go go' s and burn money there I do it in clubs that's the difference, I pick up ladies from the club and make the lady come to me get her desperate for a fuck maybe I can still do it as I am 37 and look 57 but my preferences are changing very soon, have no fun to go club at night now want to try the bar scene early evening pick up, take the girl out to a nice expensive place for dinner make her feel good, shop a bit for her in a mall and then have a good fuck and sleep by 12 .
I am trying to set my office in BKK so have to change my routine a bit it seems for a couple of trips, when things get set then can be back to the same old crazy days and nights.
Usually I used to come back at 7 or 8 every morning with a women in tow even in this trip of BKK and that early morning fuck or my night fuck was super sexy stuff the lady is all worked up the whole night with alcohol and dance and good food she is more horny than I am and my clothes have been teared more than once upon entering the room in Davis, there have been more love bites at various parts of my body than I usually get, I think I need to find some kind of Viagra which can work with alcohol as I cannot cope to these young horny girls who love to fuck and I am done after only 1 fuck but these women want to fuck sleep fuck sleep eat sleep fuck again I can't do that so I need to build my stamina and need a new type of Viagra.
The best part I love about BKK is the variety of new chicks, this time I had a Thai chick she was 5'9 and thick like a Latina man she used to fuck like bull and I loved her company was 33 no kids everything so tight but she was very pro and wanted money but was sweet and true when I took her shopping she opened up and the fuck after that was one of the best absolute orb star it was, she still messages me it takes time for some women to open but after that its fun for them but its the other way around for men we loose interest after 2 or 3 fucks with a women I am like that I don't know about other men.
Then I had this Thai lady who had a black boyfriend, used to drive a Mercedes before was a rich bar owner on Soi 33 used to speak fluent English, drives a Toyota camry now also bit fat but the fucks I had with her all porn star she liked it as hard I could give her if I was 8 on a scale of 10 for fucking her hard she desired 9 if I went 9 she wanted 10 she was a maniac in bed super horny and then me made out in her car inside and outside crazy stuff I did on this trip.
And last but not the least the Colombian has fallen in love for me and me also now she is such a darling I just can't tell you we are still in touch everyday almost every hour she is just so much into me and me also now sometime you start to love a women over time she is like wine leaves her impact slowly but very sensual we had amazing sex in jacuzzi in front of her friend she was so open and bold I was taken aback.
I miss BKK so much I can't tell you. Thats why I want to set up my base in BKK rather than SG and HK because of the fun loving nature of city and people.
Cheers man.
Thanks for this man. I too use to have great success at Thermae. Btu the last couple of times I have gone (all last year) I have found that the best lookers ignored me and seemed only interested in Asian clients.
Your post makes me want to give it another try.
One question: Were you taking these girls for ST? This is what I assume considering the price you paid.Yes, only ST but I must say I never felt rushed. I walk with them about 10-12 minutes to my apartment and don't know that the full experience has ever been noticeably less than 3 hours, including that walk time. Walk out of Thermae around 10-10:15 PM and we're hugging, kissing and saying goodbye outside my apartment very close to 1 AM. Maybe they go back to Thermae after that, don't know.
Give the earlier arrival a try. Around 9:30 PM or just after. Wish I could say which particular nights of the week but I never bothered to make a note of it. If the earlier arrival and shopping times have made a difference at all, to be more precise a big improvement over my results obeying the usual Thermae "Rules for Farangs" like getting there much later when the girls have either already had their Asian customer fix for the night or when they are more desperate and all that, I would put it to my avoiding the over crowded feeding frenzy that occurs during those later evening or very early morning hours. But when many of the girls who are genuine part-timers with regular jobs are showing up at 9 PM or soon after, they just might be worried about not getting a suitable customer at all this night, don't want to find themselves in the position of taking some otherwise unsuitable character for less money during the feeding frenzy and all of that. I just don't think good girls have to stand there all night and then get stuck accepting someone they don't have to accept in this age of smartphones, Line and so on.
If a Thermae part-timer girl doesn't find a suitable customer early in the evening so as to put this night's work in the ledger and get it over with sooner rather than later, she has several other options at her disposal including the discos and scanning the contacts on her Line account to see if a previous customer she liked or at least was conveniently nearby is interested. LOL. Among which I just might be one of them!
You ask a tough question. The only early evening option, aside form Soapies and MPs (and the Den) I can think of is Bier Garden Soi 7 or the Hillary bars.
Personally I dislike Hillary bars due to system that waitresses get commissions for drinks sold to you, even though they are not lady drinks. This causes undue competition amongst the waitresses and always asking you if you want to order another drink. Morning Night and Stumble Inn are more relaxed alternatives with some okay Girls, good for daytime. However very early evening is the absolute best time for Soapies and Oilies.
Some bar girls at gogo bars can be arriving early. Dancing at Crazy House starts as early as 7. 30 PM. Collect phone numbers or LINE contact of favorite girls. Diligent girls sometimes are willing to show up early like 6 PM (or any time during the day) to get a kick start to their money for the night. I used to meet a Suzi W girl at 6. 30 PM quite regularly. Her room is so close by, easy walking distance from Cowboy. However most girls have to come from a distance like PhraKhanong, On Nut, Silom, or Ratchada.
Late I went back to Cowboy just to very quickly survey the Coyotes. Not many pretty ones were out the front of the bars really. Cowboy was already a bit dark. Was about 1. 30 am I guess. Another day project...
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Stopped by "Easy bar".......Great post.
I have 2 questions:
Is it possible to barfine the coyotes that works in front of the go-go's in Cowboy?
Where is the "Easy Bar"?
Thanks.
Interesting discussion about these two venues. They are quite close to each other though on opposite sides of Suk. I think the Den starts tapering off around the time Thermae is opening so possible to hit both starting around sundown.
The problem with the Den are the lack of many women there on most nights and the rather high price they are asking when you consider that the short term rooms on the premises are 500 baht. So for the punter who said he a girl asked for 2000 baht, I am assuming that did not include the room. Add in drinks and you easily are at 3 k baht. Also, the time in the room will be a flat one hour or when you come as it's generally one shot.
Compare that to Thermae where Uncle V notes you can take a girl ST for more than an hour and the drinks are cheaper. I love close by so could eschew the short time hotel opinion.
Since recent reports seem to suggest an uptick in girls interested in farangs, I may have to take a flier there and see what happens.
Since recent reports seem to suggest an uptick in girls interested in farangs, I may have to take a flier there and see what happens.Yep, never hurts to have a quick look in places that were previously abandoned. Things can change a bit. I am always wary about girls looking for Japanese and Korean that get dick scared, and legs go very stiff, when with Farangs though. A frequent problem at Asian oriented Soapies these days.
I am intrigued enough to have a look too. Can determine the level of stunners.
NamasteParis
05-16-16, 09:14
Is it possible to barfine the coyotes that works in front of the go-go's in Cowboy?Coyotes are often untamed stunning funny extroverted girls. Most of them will choose their customers, or refuse. Most of them can be barfined, but price is way higher than standard.
As my taste usually leads me to coyotes, I chat and drink with them, and collect Line IDs. Then we arrange some meeting outside working hours for standard price, or even less, as most of them turn into genuine GFE.
Great post.
I have 2 questions:
Is it possible to barfine the coyotes that works in front of the go-go's in Cowboy?
Where is the "Easy Bar"?
Thanks.The best bet for barfining Coyotes in Cowboy is probably Cowboy 2 bar (not an "Arab" bar). I have barfined a special dance show girl at Midnite a few years back but that may have been for the take over by "the Arab". I have heard rumours that the Arab bars girls are not barfinable "officially" however have not checked recently. Was "the Arab" owner really trying to combat prostitution? Or just money laundering? I have barfined Coyotes at Doll House and at Nana Plaza bars.
Easy Bar is an outside street bar in Soi Asoke close to Cowboy. Close to entrance to MRT underground. Has only one LB, very charming, the rest real girls. Street portable bars close on a Monday. It's not really legal to sell alcohol on the street like this. However Police take their bribes.
Warning. Some of these bars can be almost all LBs near to corner of Asoke and Sukhumvit. One or two LBs very nice, with hot extra curvy bodies, just for a chat (for me not for sex). I need real pussy to turn me on (and real tits) and cute little upturned noses. However many customers prefer the LBs. No idea why this is. Presence of a dick would definitely kill it for me. Every time I visit Asoke Place ST Hotel, they almost always have a Japanese/Korean customer with a LB. Farrangs usually are more brazen and take back to their own Hotel I guess. At Easy, I heard that Mr. John Irish (made up name - I have chatted with him in the past) wanted to take the LB to get a passport and take her overseas with him. So they can be very popular, not just for a curiosity one off.
I was shown some video of the recent Tiffanies beauty pageant for girls of the "2nd type". I asked Miss "Eye" if she ever entered a beauty competiton. She said no she could not because she is a "Garee" in her own words (rather derogatory Thai word for a hooker). She said she might quit being a hooker for a while and enter a pageant. However the completion is extremely tough.
Not sure if it's been noted here on this thread but a major Buddhist holiday occurs this Friday celebrating the life of Buddha. As such, all bars and restaurants are supposedly shuttered with the possible exception of Patong.
Plan accordingly.
Not sure if it's been noted here on this thread but a major Buddhist holiday occurs this Friday celebrating the life of Buddha. As such, all bars and restaurants are supposedly shuttered with the possible exception of Patong.
Plan accordingly.Thanks for the warning. The number of public holidays here is ridiculous.
April 06 Chakri Day.
Apr 13,14, 15 Songkran Festival Thai New Year.
May 2 Labour Day (observed) May 1st.
May 5 Coronation Day.
May 6 Public Holiday Bridge holiday after Coronation Day.
May 9 Royal Ploughing Ceremony Government.
May 20 Visakha (Wisakha) Bucha Day .
Public Servants get so many days off. I had to wait till May 10 after very long weekend to visit Immigration and of course this meant the queues were extra long, so I further delayed it till May 11. I normally don't drink alcohol, so hardly give a shit if alcohol is available or not.
I guess some monger places will still be open May 20. I will check. Alcohol sales will not be officially legal. Unlikely to stop Crazy House. LOL I can recall places serving alcohol in a teapot or coffee pot years ago, to make it less obvious. I hardly give a shit if alcohol is available or not. Doesn't really assist me in any way.
Interesting discussion about these two venues. They are quite close to each other though on opposite sides of Suk. I think the Den starts tapering off around the time Thermae is opening so possible to hit both starting around sundown.
The problem with the Den are the lack of many women there on most nights and the rather high price they are asking when you consider that the short term rooms on the premises are 500 baht. So for the punter who said he a girl asked for 2000 baht, I am assuming that did not include the room. Add in drinks and you easily are at 3 k baht. Also, the time in the room will be a flat one hour or when you come as it's generally one shot.
Compare that to Thermae where Uncle V notes you can take a girl ST for more than an hour and the drinks are cheaper. I love close by so could eschew the short time hotel opinion.
Since recent reports seem to suggest an uptick in girls interested in farangs, I may have to take a flier there and see what happens.Personally, I have had some good times in Theramae. Not only because of the little darlings lined up around the walls, but I've also met some interesting guys there. Beers are only 100 baht and there's no pressure from the ladies. It's similar to Soi 7 beer garden in that you can totally shoot the shit with fellow mongers until you're ready to grab a gal and go. Never been to the Den, but I've read that it's pricey and it never really looked interesting to me in the first place.
Thanks for the warning. The number of public holidays here is ridiculous.
April 06 Chakri Day.
Apr 13,14, 15 Songkran Festival Thai New Year.
May 2 Labour Day (observed) May 1st.
May 5 Coronation Day.
May 6 Public Holiday Bridge holiday after Coronation Day.
May 9 Royal Ploughing Ceremony Government.
May 20 Visakha (Wisakha) Bucha Day .
Public Servants get so many days off. I had to wait till May 10 after very long weekend to visit Immigration and of course this meant the queues were extra long, so I further delayed it till May 11. I normally don't drink alcohol, so hardly give a shit if alcohol is available or not.
I guess some monger places will still be open May 20. I will check. Alcohol sales will not be officially legal. Unlikely to stop Crazy House. LOL I can recall places serving alcohol in a teapot or coffee pot years ago, to make it less obvious. I hardly give a shit if alcohol is available or not. Doesn't really assist me in any way.Actually I found this out from a little Thai gal I was chatting with when I brought up getting some drinks on Friday and she replied "Cannot, special Buddhist day". My school probably wouldn't have told us until Thursday night that we could take the next day off. Oh well, at least I found out and thankfully this Filipino I've been talking to, as well, doesn't care and is down to hang out.
For days like this, Pat Pong is your best bet if you want to go out and grab a few. The supermarkets, 7/11's and Family Mart won't be selling beer either, but you can count on the little mom and pop stores to do so.
That is the good thing about working in Thailand is the number of holidays you get off. The bad thing is, unless you find out when these days are for yourself, your employer won't tell you until the last minute.
Banana Boi
05-16-16, 12:05
Thanks everyone for recent updates on The Den and Thermae. Some interesting reading.
If I understand correctly my visit to The Den should be around 3-7 pm and Thermae around 10 pm before the Japanese roll in?
I read there is a second Den on Patpong 1. Anyone been there? How does it compare to the one on Suk 12.
How much do the stupidly how girls out the front of bars cost?
How much do the stupidly how girls out the front of bars cost?If you mean the bait-and-switch Coyote scam girls standing in front of the bars to make customers think they are as easily available for barfine as the regular go-go bargirls so you will go into the bar and buy them Lady Drinks, as mentioned, many if not most of them are not available for barfine at all. Don't know what the after hours deal is going for, if you can arrange one.
However, Cowboy 2 Bar on Soi Cowboy, also as mentioned, is one place where many of the Coyotes are available for barfine. Last time I asked a mamasan there how much, about a year ago, she said 3,000 baht to the bar for barfine plus whatever you negotiate to pay the girl separately. The girl I was considering at the time said 3,000 for her, too. For ST. After a hearty laugh, I passed, paid my bar tab and moved on to less rip off environments.
If you mean the bait-and-switch Coyote scam girls standing in front of the bars to make customers think they are as easily available for barfine as the regular go-go bargirls so you will go into the bar and buy them Lady Drinks, as mentioned, many if not most of them are not available for barfine at all. Don't know what the after hours deal is going for, if you can arrange one.
However, Cowboy 2 Bar on Soi Cowboy, also as mentioned, is one place where many of the Coyotes are available for barfine. Last time I asked a mamasan there how much, about a year ago, she said 3,000 baht to the bar for barfine plus whatever you negotiate to pay the girl separately. The girl I was considering at the time said 3,000 for her, too. For ST. After a hearty laugh, I passed, paid my bar tab and moved on to less rip off environments.Yeah 3 k BF+ 5 k LT is fine by me provided she gives a good service and lets me cum 2-3 times. Otherwise I don't see the point anything for anything for any amount if the girl is crap. But spending 8 k on a girl for the night is okay price for me.
Old New Guy
05-16-16, 14:42
Coyotes are often untamed stunning funny extroverted girls. Most of them will choose their customers, or refuse. Most of them can be barfined, but price is way higher than standard.
As my taste usually leads me to coyotes, I chat and drink with them, and collect Line IDs. Then we arrange some meeting outside working hours for standard price, or even less, as most of them turn into genuine GFE.That's how it should be done. Kudos!
Yeah 3 k BF+ 5 k LT is fine by me provided she gives a good service and lets me cum 2-3 times. Otherwise I don't see the point anything for anything for any amount if the girl is crap. But spending 8 k on a girl for the night is okay price for me.I understand what you mean about 8,000 baht being ok IF the girl gives fantastic service worth, say, at least double what a non Coyote would cost. But one other thing to consider; I doubt many of those "3,000 baht to the bar and 3,000+ baht to her" girls rack up very much time and experience in a room alone with a customer. Nothing close to what the regular go-go bargirls do, that is. They certainly don't need to be barfined or paid by a customer for sex in order to make a living. If they did, they wouldn't be Coyotes, right?
And they certainly don't see themselves as actual P4 P girls, at least far less so than their regular go-go bargirl counterparts. They are "models" or "pretties" for the bars, dontcha' know? Which means it is not likely that those Coyotes would give even as good a quality of service as a regular go-go dancer committed to the idea and the industry, much less twice as good.
However, I understand that some customers think looks is enough to justify two or three times what other girls cost. So, if that is the case and your criteria, if being seen walking out of a bar with what you perceive is the hottest girl in the joint provides a good 80% or better of what you are after on a given night, then I guess you can't go too far wrong for the money no matter how lousy she might be in the room.
I am suffering withdrawal symptoms from my favorite CH girl Donut, away for over a week now, so motivation to fuck is a bit down. Another favorite from CH has been gone a while, No. 91 Oom. Seems she had a fisticuffs with No. 34, the girl with enormous silicones, and has not been seen since. May-Lee long gone to have a baby. Nat also long gone. I already did Ging and Nikki in the last week. Petite Jane, the darker one, has been mostly missing too.
Last night did not intend to fuck, but was persuaded by very cute girl with big tits, after I had a few drinks. Tonight I was again in just "check out a few places" mode, again not really intending to fuck anyone, unless something stunning should appear.
Firstly did a slow walk on Cowboy to check the talent of the girls out the front. Can be a good indicator, or better than the talent inside. Did not find any Coyote that was as good looking as two I previously met at Mercury, Palm and Faai. Moved on to Nana and decided to look in Mandarin both Downstairs and Upstairs. Upstairs I thought the girls were just a little better so I stayed just a little longer. Neither bar was at all busy. Maybe 20 girls at each, but less than 10 customers. None of the Coyotes really did proper Coyote dancing, so I regard them as fake Coyotes. No one stunning at either place. Some okay Girls but not really many were slim but curvy and were missing the nose job. Disappointing really. I believe Mandarin was a better bar in the past, talent wise.
Time was getting on so I decided it was an ideal time to check out the Thermae. Arrived after 11 PM. There is plenty of space to move around. Not like the original Thermae, 24 years ago which was smaller inside and so packed that you were forced to be close to lots of other people. There were a lot of girls, maybe 50, maybe more, and somewhat less men. Maybe 20 to 30 Japanese types and maybe about 8 Farangs. I think Farangs were probably doing okay I certainly saw one Farang chat up a girl and they left together. She was moderately cute in the face but shortish and body just a little thicker than my taste around the thighs, small tits. Many girls were conservatively dressed. I am not keen when they wear dresses that hide the size of the thighs and also cover the tits completely.
I could see that the vast majority of the girls were rather flat chested. This is not a problem for me, if I know the tits are at least beautifully shaped A cups and not saggy. Of course with the girl dressed, I just cannot tell. There were some big tits with a high proportion of those likely silicones. Not many girls were dressing sexy so as to expose much of of the breast flesh.
I preferred girls wearing shorts, as it covers legs and ass less. There were a few girls with cutish faces, maybe 6 girls where faces were of moderate interest and that includes some rather dark skinned girls. However it wasn't clear whether any of those girls had a really great body. One or two girls were dressed in tight clothes with a clearly very hot body, good waist to thigh ratio and slim legs and some reasonable cleavage. One of those was spoiled by a beak like nose job. The other just not that pretty.
No girl in the whole place immediately jumped out to me as being obviously stunning, and clearly a great body. It's tougher to tell with over dressed girls. If I was really wanting a fuck, I am sure I would have found something quite okay With probable compromise on the quality of the body. Not willing to take an ugly nose job girls.
I did not see any guys groping girls to check out their bodies. Most guys were acting very polite. Not sure any girl was an obvious challenge to my favourites from elsewhere. It's much harder when you don't know them and haven't had large amounts of time to study each one, my norm when choosing undressed bargirls. However the place was more interesting to me the Mandarin bars. I may well come back and try to find a stunner, possibly would turn up a bit earlier in case the best girls were already gone.
No one in the place would have been competition for exquisite Donut at CH, and possibly not even for Noi at Easy Bar.
It's very hard to compare conservatively dressed girls with naked girls at a go go bar. When girls are naked revealing a great body, they suddenly look so much more enticing, even if many of the faces are not that incredible. I have to assume that conservative dressing is hiding a rather average body until proven otherwise, being a bit of a pessimist.
To gamble on over-dressed girls or not? Can any sort of cuddling realistically go on before choosing to gauge what is underneath? Maybe not feasible.
Percentage of girls with silicones? I would say that was low. Most girls relatively flat chested.
Percentage of girls with nose jobs? I would guess probably 60% to 70%, without doing a proper survey. Good looking nose jobs, who knows? If I can see it is a nose job very easily, that means its an ugly one, generally.
Did I say anything unrealistic, Mr. smooT hiE? I am sure a variety of views are welcome.
Has anybody tried Arabic girls from hotel Grace Soi 3 area.
Are the girls give GFE? If somebody tried or know any other place for Arabic girls please suggest.
I asked a mamasan there how much, about a year ago, she said 3,000 baht to the bar for barfine plus whatever you negotiate to pay the girl separately. The girl I was considering at the time said 3,000 for her, too. For ST. After a hearty laugh, I passed, paid my bar tab and moved on to less rip off environments.There are different ways to see that high BF:
A way to discourage the customer to tow the girl away.
If the customer really wants that girl, the bar will be well refunded by the BF.
Wondering how much the mamasan was putting in her pocket.
Seems to be also a lack of relation between bar fine (3000) and the ST (3000).
Everybody trying their bit to milk the farang, in a way or another.
Yeah 3 k BF+ 5 k LT is fine by me provided she gives a good service and lets me cum 2-3 times. Otherwise I don't see the point anything for anything for any amount if the girl is crap. But spending 8 k on a girl for the night is okay price for me.8000 is quite similar to some ST for a decent escort type of girl in the western world, 60/90 minutes (the time is often unrelated as they might allow a couple of pops in the best scenario.
In here, with 8000 you pay also her sleeping time. I can't imagine those girls are keen of a sex marathon full night long.
Going to be in Europe next month, and Thailand is magnetically pulling me.
Can anyone recommend a knowledgeable local or ex-pat from this forum, male or female, that can show a newbie the ropes. Literally, walk around and point out what's what and whose who? I just don't have the time or patience to make mistakes, trying to make this trip count starting from the first day.
Willing to compensate or treat to a nice dinner, anything reasonable.
Planning to land in bkk around July 7th.
Thank you!
Yeah 3 k BF+ 5 k LT is fine by me provided she gives a good service and lets me cum 2-3 times. Otherwise I don't see the point anything for anything for any amount if the girl is crap. But spending 8 k on a girl for the night is okay price for me.You still don't get it. I'll try again:
Lets take golf: a round costs $200 where you come from, and $50 in Thailand. Would you gladly volunteer to pay $200 in Bangkok anyway because that is what you are used to paying? Would that be an ok price for you?
Dude I'm not trying to be combative; just pointing out how illogical your reasoning is.
SL.
You still don't get it. I'll try again:
Lets take golf: a round costs $200 where you come from, and $50 in Thailand. Would you gladly volunteer to pay $200 in Bangkok anyway because that is what you are used to paying? Would that be an ok price for you?
Dude I'm not trying to be combative; just pointing out how illogical your reasoning is.
SL.Agreed Sunlover2. I have no idea why someone would come to Thailand and pay that kind of money. What you pay in your home country is completely irrelevant to pricing in Thailand. Would you go into a car dealership and offer them twice to three times the sticker price? They would think you were crazy.
So, soon I will be heading to BKK after 16 nights in Patts. The last time I was in BKK was more than 10 years ago (I came to Patts straight from the airport).
I will have 4 nights (but I don't drink the day before a long flight as my actual flight time will be about 18 hours and more like 24 hours door to door to JFK).
1. I am looking for recommendations on hip hop, pop and rap music combo dance clubs (similar to Insomnia in Pattaya) to meet college student or office / shopping staff non pros and FL's.
Although I'm an older dude, I find that (even in the US, but a!so in Latin Countries like Spain, or even Australia etc) I usually relate better to girls in their early 20's who love to dance pretty much non stop, intensely. Of course, I'm not looking for freebies but LT GFE 's. And, if I don't find one a particular night, but I enjoyed the ambiance and had fun dancing, that would be ok too (but not the preferred outcome).
2. One thing at Insomnia in Pattaya is the smoking wrecked havoc on my sinuses, but I have been ploughing through it as, 'it is what it is ' and sometimes that's the price one has to pay. But, I would prefer non smoking places. Yes, I'm aware that, all things being equal, oftentimes girls who smoke can be more fun, spontaneous and generous hearted.
3. I have been to Soi Cowboy like 10 years ago, and yes, I do plan to check out Nana and Soi Cowboy during the early PM on one of the days. I've checked out a few gogos in Patts in WS and LK metro but it didn't do anything for me.
4. I will be staying at a suite hotel in the Sukhumvit area. And, will be partying for just 3 nights, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
I've seen people here talk of Thermae, so I will check that out too, on Friday night. If I find someone in my target profile who wants a real LT and wants to dance until at least 3 or 4 am.
Thanks in advance folks !
I went to the Sugar Club on Soi 11 last Saturday. Crowded with lots of young people dancing and mingling. Not my style as don't like hip hop all that much but sounds like you do. There were some hot girls there but I got rejected a few times due to my age, which does not happen very often to me in Bangkok. Of course, rejection rates decline as the early morning hours increase. This place stays open until 7 am or so I am told.
But this Friday may be problematic as to their hours as the Buddha holiday on May 20 may impair their normal operating times.
Speaking of which, I spoke to Bangkok Beat manager last night and he said they are closed on Thursday starting that evening and stay closed until Friday at midnight. They don't want to jeopardize their license by being open at all on May 20.
I stopped in Thermae last night about 10 pm and about 10% of punters were westerners with the rest Japanese of various ages. Felt like an awkward high school mixer with the girls lined up on the perimeter of the space. Found most to be 'meh' and not a lot of eye contact. I stood directky in front of one gal with quite supple and large looking breasts and failed at any eye contact whatsoever. I actually found it more interesting sitting outside on the steps watching girls exit and entry not to mention the street traffic.
That being said, I think one could find someone here though wonder about their overall English skills though I did overhear one girl taking in English to an older Japanese guy so maybe that is the lengua franca here.
Compare that to Bangkok Beat last night where I was inundated with girls approaching me to the point I finally left to sit outside on the porch. Maybe they heard about my epic threesome from a few nights ago.555
One girl who I have taken a couple of times approached me to say she was leaving this holiday weekend and implored me to take her for 3 k baht to finance her trip. When I declined by pleading poverty, she quickly reduced to 2 k baht; an offer I also declined. Basically, the thrill is gone with this one.
So, soon I will be heading to BKK after 16 nights in Patts. The last time I was in BKK was more than 10 years ago (I came to Patts straight from the airport).
I will have 4 nights (but I don't drink the day before a long flight as my actual flight time will be about 18 hours and more like 24 hours door to door to JFK).
1. I am looking for recommendations on hip hop, pop and rap music combo dance clubs (similar to Insomnia in Pattaya) to meet college student or office / shopping staff non pros and FL's.
Although I'm an older dude, I find that (even in the US, but a!so in Latin Countries like Spain, or even Australia etc) I usually relate better to girls in their early 20's who love to dance pretty much non stop, intensely. Of course, I'm not looking for freebies but LT GFE 's. And, if I don't find one a particular night, but I enjoyed the ambiance and had fun dancing, that would be ok too (but not the preferred outcome).
2. One thing at Insomnia in Pattaya is the smoking wrecked havoc on my sinuses, but I have been ploughing through it as, 'it is what it is ' and sometimes that's the price one has to pay. But, I would prefer non smoking places. Yes, I'm aware that, all things being equal, oftentimes girls who smoke can be more fun, spontaneous and generous hearted.
3. I have been to Soi Cowboy like 10 years ago, and yes, I do plan to check out Nana and Soi Cowboy during the early PM on one of the days. I've checked out a few gogos in Patts in WS and LK metro but it didn't do anything for me.
4. I will be staying at a suite hotel in the Sukhumvit area. And, will be partying for just 3 nights, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
I've seen people here talk of Thermae, so I will check that out too, on Friday night. If I find someone in my target profile who wants a real LT and wants to dance until at least 3 or 4 am.
Thanks in advance folks !
I went to the Sugar Club on Soi 11 last Saturday. Crowded with lots of young people dancing and mingling. Not my style as don't like hip hop all that much but sounds like you do. There were some hot girls there but I got rejected a few times due to my age, which does not happen very often to me in Bangkok. Of course, rejection rates decline as the early morning hours increase. This place stays open until 7 am or so I am told.
But this Friday may be problematic as to their hours as the Buddha holiday on May 20 may impair their normal operating times.
Speaking of which, I spoke to Bangkok Beat manager last night and he said they are closed on Thursday starting that evening and stay closed until Friday at midnight. They don't want to jeopardize their license by being open at all on May 20.
I stopped in Thermae last night about 10 pm and about 10% of punters were westerners with the rest Japanese of various ages. Felt like an awkward high school mixer with the girls lined up on the perimeter of the space. Found most to be 'meh' and not a lot of eye contact. I stood directky in front of one gal with quite supple and large looking breasts and failed at any eye contact whatsoever. I actually found it more interesting sitting outside on the steps watching girls exit and entry not to mention the street traffic.
That being said, I think one could find someone here though wonder about their overall English skills though I did overhear one girl taking in English to an older Japanese guy so maybe that is the lengua franca here
Compare that to Bangkok Beat last night where I was inundated with girls approaching me to the point I finally left to sit outside on the porch.
One girl who I have taken a couple of times approached me to say she was leaving this holiday weekend and implored me to take her for 3 k baht to finance her trip. When I declined by pleading poverty, she quickly reduced to 2 k baht; an offer I also declined. Basically, the thrill is gone with this one.Yep, Thermae has been over for me for quite a few years. After about 09-10 it became so inundated with Japanese and gals who would only service them; the mood was always a downer for me. The exception was during the floods of '11 when much of the city was basked in a foot or so of water. Thermae was a goldmine for about a month with lots of old faces I had not seen for several years and a 1 k Baht price tag. As soon as the waters receded it returned to the horrid new normal.
Agreed Sunlover2. I have no idea why someone would come to Thailand and pay that kind of money. What you pay in your home country is completely irrelevant to pricing in Thailand. Would you go into a car dealership and offer them twice to three times the sticker price? They would think you were crazy.While I don't want to pay a 3000 Baht barfine I have paid 1500 Baht BF. Fucked up analogies prove nothing at all. A girl is not a car or a round of golf. If she were a car, one would easily see the Suzuki and Mercedes have different prices. There are different levels of quality. We can't expect every level of quality to be the same price. Ugly girls realistically have to sell themselves cheaper, to get any takers. A stunning girl can be a higher price and still pulls customers in within a few minutes. These are the unfortunate realities. The prettiest girls are generally not working in the Oilies because they don't make enough money per fuck, or they need more flexibility to work when they feel like it. They can do better elsewhere.
I accept that the type of girls I am looking for, usually do not go for the very lowest prices. I also know they can be a lot less than 8 K for the night in the right place. Anyway the simple fact is prices for all girls are not identical. Everyone has to make their own decision whether the girl is value for money, based on what is available and where. If a stunning girl costs me 3 K and very average looking girl costs only 2 k, am I going to take the 2 k girl? No I don't. I just can't be bothered to waste my money on average girls. If I have two equally stunning girls on offer, sure I will take the one that is much cheaper.
Most of the Coyote girls in Cowboy and Nana are pretty ordinary looking girls that are not worth a high barfine. Simply putting on a Coyote outfit does not improve them. There is the danger of Coyote's bras hiding crappy tits too. I have met the odd stunning exception, where I would be prepared to pay a slightly higher BF. Usually the BF has dropped to a lower price after midnight. The other option as someone mentioned is to try to meet her after work without BF.
Not every monger is looking for the cheapest possible fuck all the time.
For an analogy, I get my dentistry done in Thailand because it is way cheaper than in my home country. However I do not take the absolute cheapest possible dentist available. The dentist qualifications, training, equipment, and skills can matter. I don't monger in my home country any more because it's too pricey, too lousy, don't like girls born in the home country, and don't get enough time. However again I don't take the cheapest possible. My criteria is a bit different.
Apparently Mr. ManGuy thought 8 K was a good deal for all night with a stunning girl. I am sure it was a hell of lot less money than what would cost in his home country, and hence his comment. Sure it might not be the best deal he could do. I have never paid that much total for LT. An Escort would be costing that much. So it's merely a question of if she is special enough to be worth it, or just another average girl, under the undeserved label of an "Escort".
All these money debates get incredibly boring. However I concede Mr. Man Guy brings the controversy on himself by insisting on talking about the prices too much. He would be far better off to shut up about the prices.
I stopped in Thermae last night about 10 pm and about 10% of punters were westerners with the rest Japanese of various ages. Felt like an awkward high school mixer with the girls lined up on the perimeter of the space. Found most to be 'meh' and not a lot of eye contact. I stood directky in front of one gal with quite supple and large looking breasts and failed at any eye contact whatsoever. I actually found it more interesting sitting outside on the steps watching girls exit and entry not to mention the street traffic.
That being said, I think one could find someone here though wonder about their overall English skills though I did overhear one girl taking in English to an older Japanese guy so maybe that is the lengua franca here.
Compare that to Bangkok Beat last night where I was inundated with girls approaching me to the point I finally left to sit outside on the porch. Maybe they heard about my epic threesome from a few nights ago.555
One girl who I have taken a couple of times approached me to say she was leaving this holiday weekend and implored me to take her for 3 k baht to finance her trip. When I declined by pleading poverty, she quickly reduced to 2 k baht; an offer I also declined. Basically, the thrill is gone with this one.I did not find a great deal of difficulty in getting eye contact, or girls to show some interest at Thermae, perhaps not every girl was interested. There is a trend there that girls do not go round hassling guys too much. That is just the standard. They don't want to look too brazen. There experience shows it is easier to wait for a guy to show interest.
If at Bangkok Beat, you are inundated with girls approaching you, that you had to sit on the porch. That is bad and annoying. Thermae is better. It is no flattery for girls (or LBs) to be that interested. It shows they think you might be a sucker, that can manipulated or overwhelmed, or a potential easy target.
I agree that 90% of the girls were "meh" as you put it. Not that special. Some possible doable girls though, and that is all I can expect from anywhere.
Firstly did a slow walk on Cowboy to check the talent of the girls out the front. Can be a good indicator, or better than the talent inside. Did not find any Coyote that was as good looking as two I previously met at Mercury, Palm and Faai. Moved on to Nana and decided to look in Mandarin both Downstairs and Upstairs. Upstairs I thought the girls were just a little better so I stayed just a little longer. Neither bar was at all busy. Maybe 20 girls at each, but less than 10 customers. None of the Coyotes really did proper Coyote dancing, so I regard them as fake Coyotes. No one stunning at either place. Some okay Girls but not really many were slim but curvy and were missing the nose job. Disappointing really. I believe Mandarin was a better bar in the past, talent wise.
Time was getting on so I decided it was an ideal time to check out the Thermae. Arrived after 11 PM. There is plenty of space to move around. Not like the original Thermae, 24 years ago which was smaller inside and so packed that you were forced to be close to lots of other people. There were a lot of girls, maybe 50, maybe more, and somewhat less men. Maybe 20 to 30 Japanese types and maybe about 8 Farangs. I think Farangs were probably doing okay I certainly saw one Farang chat up a girl and they left together. She was moderately cute in the face but shortish and body just a little thicker than my taste around the thighs, small tits. Many girls were conservatively dressed. I am not keen when they wear dresses that hide the size of the thighs and also cover the tits completely.
I could see that the vast majority of the girls were rather flat chested. This is not a problem for me, if I know the tits are at least beautifully shaped A cups and not saggy. Of course with the girl dressed, I just cannot tell. There were some big tits with a high proportion of those likely silicones. Not many girls were dressing sexy so as to expose much of of the breast flesh.
I preferred girls wearing shorts, as it covers legs and ass less. There were a few girls with cutish faces, maybe 6 girls where faces were of moderate interest and that includes some rather dark skinned girls. However it wasn't clear whether any of those girls had a really great body. One or two girls were dressed in tight clothes with a clearly very hot body, good waist to thigh ratio and slim legs and some reasonable cleavage. One of those was spoiled by a beak like nose job. The other just not that pretty.
No girl in the whole place immediately jumped out to me as being obviously stunning, and clearly a great body. It's tougher to tell with over dressed girls. If I was really wanting a fuck, I am sure I would have found something quite okay With probable compromise on the quality of the body. Not willing to take an ugly nose job girls.
I did not see any guys groping girls to check out their bodies. Most guys were acting very polite. Not sure any girl was an obvious challenge to my favourites from elsewhere. It's much harder when you don't know them and haven't had large amounts of time to study each one, my norm when choosing undressed bargirls. However the place was more interesting to me the Mandarin bars. I may well come back and try to find a stunner, possibly would turn up a bit earlier in case the best girls were already gone.
No one in the place would have been competition for exquisite Donut at CH, and possibly not even for Noi at Easy Bar.
It's very hard to compare conservatively dressed girls with naked girls at a go go bar. When girls are naked revealing a great body, they suddenly look so much more enticing, even if many of the faces are not that incredible. I have to assume that conservative dressing is hiding a rather average body until proven otherwise, being a bit of a pessimist.
To gamble on over-dressed girls or not? Can any sort of cuddling realistically go on before choosing to gauge what is underneath? Maybe not feasible.
Percentage of girls with silicones? I would say that was low. Most girls relatively flat chested.
Percentage of girls with nose jobs? I would guess probably 60% to 70%, without doing a proper survey. Good looking nose jobs, who knows? If I can see it is a nose job very easily, that means its an ugly one, generally.
Did I say anything unrealistic, Mr. smooT hiE? I am sure a variety of views are welcome.Only around 50 girls in Thermae seems quite a bit lower than the number of girls I've seen there on an approximate 9:30 pm arrival recently. Might have been a light night alrogether.
Thermae girls are Freelancers, of course, so I think it is realistic to assume a FL's body will not be a challenge to a popular go-go dancer's body, much less the bodies of the 2-3 better bodied girls in one of the most popular all-nude (mostly) go-go bars in the world. Highly unlikely to impossible to encounter or expect such a thing. IMO. Flatter chested, certainly to be expected.
Don't know or care much about the nose jobs, but 60-70% of the 50 or so girls in Thermae having had one seems quite high. Possible though. And I would say Thermae girls might dress more conservatively than FLs who stroll the streets. But I have not been put off by the bodies of the girls I have taken there recently. In fact, I have been pleased with them. I tend to prefer good, trim, well proportioned bodies that I can see before committing, too (which is one reason I don't go to Thermae all that often, only about 4-5 times over as many months). But when I do I only chose girls who are standing, not sitting on a stool hiding what is likely an abundance of issues, and if they are either wearing very short pants, tight short skirts or form-fitting long pants.
I happened to take a girl from upstairs Mandarin last night. Got there about 9 pm and she was expecting me because I had replied to her Line messages that I would. She was a repeat for me. She was also one of their "special" girls, "show" girls or whatever they call them there. Like you, I don't consider them genuine Coyotes. Not in terms of dancing and not in terms of them only hustling lady drinks but not barfining. They barfine. But the payment to the bar is 1500 baht instead of 700 baht and not the ridiculous 3000 baht barfine I have had cited for genuine Coyotes elsewhere. In my experience there, that additional 800 baht to the bar has not felt wasted at all considering the results I've enjoyed.
Is it possible a 3000 baht barfine would provide even MORE spectacular results? Lol. I have no personal testimony to offer on that. But I doubt it since we are, IMO, talking about the difference between a genuine Coyote who rarely if ever expects to have to exchange sex for money and a "special/show" girl who does so on nearly a nightly basis.
Usually, I don't have a problem in there. But I have taken several girls from there recently, it was not very busy, and plenty of girls, though no one to write home about, so it may have been some extenuating circumstances. However, There was a whiff of desperation going on. Maybe this is the start of off-season?
I generally never agree to more than 2 k in there though made an exception for the 3 some last weekend. It's funny but my first two times with girls from BB during the winter of 2015 were lousy. I almost decided not to go again but gave it one more shot and I have been quite pleased and happy with the experience virtually every time going forward. I do try to stay clear of the girls I see in there consistently.
I was talking to one of my friends in there last week and he agreed with me about one of the girls I had a bad experience with as he had the same. However, she is still in there virtually every night pulling unsuspecting guys out for a most likely miserable time.
I did not find a great deal of difficulty in getting eye contact, or girls to show some interest at Thermae, perhaps not every girl was interested. There is a trend there that girls do not go round hassling guys too much. That is just the standard. They don't want to look too brazen. There experience shows it is easier to wait for a guy to show interest.
If at Bangkok Beat, you are inundated with girls approaching you, that you had to sit on the porch. That is bad and annoying. Thermae is better. It is no flattery for girls (or LBs) to be that interested. It shows they think you might be a sucker, that can manipulated or overwhelmed, or a potential easy target.
I agree that 90% of the girls were "meh" as you put it. Not that special. Some possible doable girls though, and that is all I can expect from anywhere.
Since I did not see many attractive girls and the ones I did see either feigned disinterest or were focused on the boys from the rising sun, I only had one drink and left for greener pastures. And they do dress pretty dowdy in there, not even sexy shorts or blouses for the most part.
But I suppose if that's your thing, you may stumble on a little gem.
I did not find a great deal of difficulty in getting eye contact,
I agree that 90% of the girls were "meh" as you put it. Not that special. Some possible doable girls though, and that is all I can expect from anywhere.
Uncle Volodya
05-17-16, 07:57
So, soon I will be heading to BKK after 16 nights in Patts. The last time I was in BKK was more than 10 years ago (I came to Patts straight from the airport).
I will have 4 nights (but I don't drink the day before a long flight as my actual flight time will be about 18 hours and more like 24 hours door to door to JFK).
Here are a few suggestions. I was in BKK in December and visited these places. I found noen was as good as Ibar though.
Levels is good. Especially on the weekends. Btut can be kind of slow. A lot of older girls. But some younger gems can be found. Most girls warm up with a few drinks at Oskar, a bar / restaurant across the street first so that is a good place for a pre-party.
Mixx was very good. A nice selection of girls. I'd definitely recommend. Also some girls from CIS, Latin America, etc. Interesting place. I will definitely spend more time there.
Climaxx is just OK. I pulled a real hottie there who is a massage girl by day at Lords Massage (an upper end Massage place). So gems can be found. But overall quality of the girls is so so. Plus they charge a cover.
Insomnia is nothing likes its namesake in Patts. Huge and vacuous and I found it difficult to even find a girl I thought was mildly attractive the 2 times I went.
Hidden gem (especially if you like hip hop) there is a little hip hop club on Soi 11. It;'s in the opposite side of the street from climax. Closer to Sukhumvit. A lot of fun and some cute. Less hard core, young girls there. I think you would like it. I don't remember the name, but you can PM and I will give you more details on how to get ther.
I hope this list helps.
I went to the Sugar Club on Soi 11 last Saturday. Crowded with lots of young people dancing and mingling. Not my style as don't like hip hop all that much but sounds like you do. There were some hot girls there but I got rejected a few times due to my age, which does not happen very often to me in Bangkok. Of course, rejection rates decline as the early morning hours increase. This place stays open until 7 am or so I am told.
But this Friday may be problematic as to their hours as the Buddha holiday on May 20 may impair their normal operating times.
Speaking of which, I spoke to Bangkok Beat manager last night and he said they are closed on Thursday starting that evening and stay closed until Friday at midnight. They don't want to jeopardize their license by being open at all on May 20.
I stopped in Thermae last night about 10 pm and about 10% of punters were westerners with the rest Japanese of various ages. Felt like an awkward high school mixer with the girls lined up on the perimeter of the space. Found most to be 'meh' and not a lot of eye contact. I stood directky in front of one gal with quite supple and large looking breasts and failed at any eye contact whatsoever. I actually found it more interesting sitting outside on the steps watching girls exit and entry not to mention the street traffic.
That being said, I think one could find someone here though wonder about their overall English skills though I did overhear one girl taking in English to an older Japanese guy so maybe that is the lengua franca here.
Compare that to Bangkok Beat last night where I was inundated with girls approaching me to the point I finally left to sit outside on the porch. Maybe they heard about my epic threesome from a few nights ago.555
One girl who I have taken a couple of times approached me to say she was leaving this holiday weekend and implored me to take her for 3 k baht to finance her trip. When I declined by pleading poverty, she quickly reduced to 2 k baht; an offer I also declined. Basically, the thrill is gone with this one.Yeah, Tomasb, I did look at some YouTube videos of Bangkok Beat. I usually don't get going until after 1 am usually, so, if Bangkok Beat plans to open after midnight on Friday the 20th (did I read you right?), I will definitely check it out. The only thing I've heard is that it is full of pro FL's and not so many of the occasional FL's. ( but so is Insomnia in Patts ) .Am I correct with my take on this place?
So. Yeah might have to try Soi 11 as well. But I hope to hear of more clubs that I should check out. THanks again, TomasB.
Here are a few suggestions. I was in BKK in December and visited these places. I found noen was as good as Ibar though.
Levels is good. Especially on the weekends. Btut can be kind of slow. A lot of older girls. But some younger gems can be found. Most girls warm up with a few drinks at Oskar, a bar / restaurant across the street first so that is a good place for a pre-party.
Mixx was very good. A nice selection of girls. I'd definitely recommend. Also some girls from CIS, Latin America, etc. Interesting place. I will definitely spend more time there.
Dunk you berry much Mon.! However, when in BKK, zero interest in CIS or Latin Chicas, so let's see. In addition to Bangkok Beat, I will check out Levels and Mixx too. Will update after.
Yes, that is correct. The manager told me that Bangkok Beat reopens their doors at midnight on May 21 (Sat morning). Also, you can still find non pro FL'S in BB and the occasional Thai tourist. I picked up a lady from Chiang Mai earlier this winter who owned a restaurant and a house in CM. No cost, of course, though I consider that a one off. Also, found a younger gal who did not want payment but became a screen scratcher after several 'free' dates.
But a lot of them are full on pros even though they deny it. I took one girl home two weeks ago and she told that it was her 3rd time in there. Every night since, I have seen her there. So in short, it's a Def mixed bag.
I need to go to Mix sometime to search out those Latinas since I speak Spanish. That might be fun!
Another club, though quite upscale, is Kuteda located at the top of a high rise near the W Hotel. I met a gorgeous girl last week in BB who says she likes Thursday because they have free flow champagne for the girls. Double check their hours due to the holiday.
I have been to Oscars and it's a cool bar but the girls appear to charge significantly more due to the venues ambience.
And they do dress pretty dowdy in there, not even sexy shorts or blouses for the most part.
But I suppose if that's your thing, you may stumble on a little gem.I agree with dowdy dress, and it certainly is not my thing, as I already wrote. I like girls to be as naked as possible for best choosing. I did comment girls were rather too conservative looking (see my review of Thermae) and timid. I hate very well hidden bodies that could turn out to be disaster sites, or perhaps just very saggy stuff. However I don't need girls to be all over me. I am prepared to approach girls if I like them, and then see if there is favourable chemistry. Girls are not busy trying to wink or wave to everyone, thank heavens. I prefer more natural behavior.
Interesting change in tone these days regarding the girls at Thermae. It used to be more like, "As freelancers go, the girls at Thermae tend to be better than most. But the Japanese have that market cornered and those girls just don't want me. "
But since the word is out that Thermae girls are paying a bit more attention to potential farang customers and giving them a whirl, with no apparent decline in Japanese customer interest in them BTW, the tone seems to have changed to something more like, "Thermae girls? Meh. I don't see much there worth my time. "
LOL. Ah, human nature.
Yes, that is correct. The manager told me that Bangkok Beat reopens their doors at midnight on May 21 (Sat morning). Also, you can still find non pro FL'S in BB and the occasional Thai tourist. I picked up a lady from Chiang Mai earlier this winter who owned a restaurant and a house in CM. No cost, of course, though I consider that a one off. Also, found a younger gal who did not want payment but became a screen scratcher after several 'free' dates.
But a lot of them are full on pros even though they deny it. I took one girl home two weeks ago and she told that it was her 3rd time in there. Every night since, I have seen her there. So in short, it's a Def mixed bag.
I need to go to Mix sometime to search out those Latinas since I speak Spanish. That might be fun!
Another club, though quite upscale, is Kuteda located at the top of a high rise near the W Hotel. I met a gorgeous girl last week in BB who says she likes Thursday because they have free flow champagne for the girls. Double check their hours due to the holiday.
I have been to Oscars and it's a cool bar but the girls appear to charge significantly more due to the venues ambience.You got to check out Mixx and Spasso my regular Colombian girl has 8-10 friends all of who when in BKK do the Spasso and Mixx scene and man if you can speak Spanish I envy you there will be some free flow of Colombian pussy for you for sure.
Cheers
Interesting change in tone these days regarding the girls at Thermae. It used to be more like, "As freelancers go, the girls at Thermae tend to be better than most. But the Japanese have that market cornered and those girls just don't want me. "
But since the word is out that Thermae girls are paying a bit more attention to potential farang customers and giving them a whirl, with no apparent decline in Japanese customer interest in them BTW, the tone seems to have changed to something more like, "Thermae girls? Meh. I don't see much there worth my time. "
LOL. Ah, human nature.Thanks to both of you for your info re Thermae. Since I prefer girls who dress well and dance well, and like to see them in form, before I talk to them, I believe Thermae is not for me. Let the Japanese guys have them.
Yes, that is correct. The manager told me that Bangkok Beat reopens their doors at midnight on May 21 (Sat morning). Also, you can still find non pro FL'S in BB and the occasional Thai tourist. I picked up a lady from Chiang Mai earlier this winter who owned a restaurant and a house in CM. No cost, of course, though I consider that a one off. Also, found a younger gal who did not want payment but became a screen scratcher after several 'free' dates.
But a lot of them are full on pros even though they deny it. I took one girl home two weeks ago and she told that it was her 3rd time in there. Every night since, I have seen her there. So in short, it's a Def mixed bag.
I need to go to Mix sometime to search out those Latinas since I speak Spanish. That might be fun!
Another club, though quite upscale, is Kuteda located at the top of a high rise near the W Hotel. I met a gorgeous girl last week in BB who says she likes Thursday because they have free flow champagne for the girls. Double check their hours due to the holiday.
I have been to Oscars and it's a cool bar but the girls appear to charge significantly more due to the venues ambience.Thanks again, Tomasb. I will call and check before I go to BB. One thing is that later in the night, I actually prefer a live DJ vs. A live band, because no matter how good a band is, they may not do a perfect rendition of all the songs they play. But, with a DJ and the original track with a great sound system and dance floor, I would be more at home.
Also, because of that mindset, upscale bars and Kudeta places are not for me. Maybe that's why I get along better with the younger girls because they are mostly not into ambiance bars and upscale bars, but girls just want to let loose and have fun.
So, I will have to find those kinds of places with only a small percentage of pros, because it's always good to have back-ups and fallback options; and I will only be partying in BKK for 3 nights vs. 15 nights in Patts.
Anyone have any info on Korean escorts working in Koreatown bars?
While I don't want to pay a 3000 Baht barfine I have paid 1500 Baht BF. Fucked up analogies prove nothing at all. A girl is not a car or a round of golf. If she were a car, one would easily see the Suzuki and Mercedes have different prices. There are different levels of quality. We can't expect every level of quality to be the same price. Ugly girls realistically have to sell themselves cheaper, to get any takers. A stunning girl can be a higher price and still pulls customers in within a few minutes. These are the unfortunate realities. The prettiest girls are generally not working in the Oilies because they don't make enough money per fuck, or they need more flexibility to work when they feel like it. They can do better elsewhere.
I accept that the type of girls I am looking for, usually do not go for the very lowest prices. I also know they can be a lot less than 8 K for the night in the right place. Anyway the simple fact is prices for all girls are not identical. Everyone has to make their own decision whether the girl is value for money, based on what is available and where. If a stunning girl costs me 3 K and very average looking girl costs only 2 k, am I going to take the 2 k girl? No I don't. I just can't be bothered to waste my money on average girls. If I have two equally stunning girls on offer, sure I will take the one that is much cheaper.
Most of the Coyote girls in Cowboy and Nana are pretty ordinary looking girls that are not worth a high barfine. Simply putting on a Coyote outfit does not improve them. There is the danger of Coyote's bras hiding crappy tits too. I have met the odd stunning exception, where I would be prepared to pay a slightly higher BF. Usually the BF has dropped to a lower price after midnight. The other option as someone mentioned is to try to meet her after work without BF.
Not every monger is looking for the cheapest possible fuck all the time.
For an analogy, I get my dentistry done in Thailand because it is way cheaper than in my home country. However I do not take the absolute cheapest possible dentist available. The dentist qualifications, training, equipment, and skills can matter. I don't monger in my home country any more because it's too pricey, too lousy, don't like girls born in the home country, and don't get enough time. However again I don't take the cheapest possible. My criteria is a bit different.
Apparently Mr. ManGuy thought 8 K was a good deal for all night with a stunning girl. I am sure it was a hell of lot less money than what would cost in his home country, and hence his comment. Sure it might not be the best deal he could do. I have never paid that much total for LT. An Escort would be costing that much. So it's merely a question of if she is special enough to be worth it, or just another average girl, under the undeserved label of an "Escort".
All these money debates get incredibly boring. However I concede Mr. Man Guy brings the controversy on himself by insisting on talking about the prices too much. He would be far better off to shut up about the prices.Paying the same farmer's daughter 4 times what she made just a few years ago for the same mediocre service does not make sense to me. Want more money, raise your game. I think the analogies are spot on. We are purchasing a service, and the more you pay the more you expect to get. Better looks, better service, better company, etc. In my estimation it seems the more we are paying the less we are getting and there are lots of dudes who seem to be ok with it. I would have no issue paying 3, 4, 5 k whatever for an amazingly stunning gal with a very well developed skill set who was polished in the art of seduction, dressed in lingerie, and provided a truly first class experience. Hell, I can get that in my home country for a couple hundred bucks. Why would I want to pay even half that for a sort of cute gal who really does not know her way around the bedroom? The answer is I wouldn't. What is that kind of short romp with an unskilled farmer's daughter worth to me? About 1 k baht. S Boton has the price right. Show me a Ferrari and I'll pay the price. Honestly, in my many years here I have maybe had one or two Ferraris. Most are Toyota Vios. They get you to your destination and that is about it.
Do most guys even know the value of money here? 2k is quite a bit of money. She makes that every day then she is averaging over 50k a month. The average salary in BKK is 18k per month. That is almost 3 times average. Many MBAs don't make that here. Exactly why we should expect and demand good service for our money.
Interesting change in tone these days regarding the girls at Thermae. It used to be more like, "As freelancers go, the girls at Thermae tend to be better than most. But the Japanese have that market cornered and those girls just don't want me. "
But since the word is out that Thermae girls are paying a bit more attention to potential farang customers and giving them a whirl, with no apparent decline in Japanese customer interest in them BTW, the tone seems to have changed to something more like, "Thermae girls? Meh. I don't see much there worth my time. "
LOL. Ah, human nature.In my eyes looks have been on the decline for a couple of years. Two to three years ago there were lots of great looking Japanese only gals in Thermae and the Japanese would accept no less. Now I see them with gals I would not even consider. Times they are a changing.
Thanks again, Tomasb. I will call and check before I go to BB. One thing is that later in the night, I actually prefer a live DJ vs. A live band, because no matter how good a band is, they may not do a perfect rendition of all the songs they play. But, with a DJ and the original track with a great sound system and dance floor, I would be more at home.
Also, because of that mindset, upscale bars and Kudeta places are not for me. Maybe that's why I get along better with the younger girls because they are mostly not into ambiance bars and upscale bars, but girls just want to let loose and have fun.
So, I will have to find those kinds of places with only a small percentage of pros, because it's always good to have back-ups and fallback options; and I will only be partying in BKK for 3 nights vs. 15 nights in Patts.When you find these places man, upscale classy normal girls do enlighten me also, I have been looking for them since ages and on the lookout for these places I went to Oskar, Spasso, Ce la vie, levels but all are filled with hardcore pros I look for women who want to enjoy and then when she is happy its amazing copulation between a male and a female organism. That is what I like the preference for uninhibited sex between two individuals no race no creed no looks nothing comes in between only pure lust and that also there is so much desperation to fuck the women literally tears your clothes she only wants your flesh and a dick to subside her burning desire wallaah.
I can be wrong but that's what I like and I think its what you are also looking for if I am not wrong or maybe 25% here or there.
Cheers: Keep on hunting and then maybe lets see who finds a new place first.
Alex
Do most guys even know the value of money here? 2k is quite a bit of money. She makes that every day then she is averaging over 50k a month. The average salary in BKK is 18k per month. That is almost 3 times average. Many MBAs don't make that here. Exactly why we should expect and demand good service for our money.It always amazes me when punters come to this website for intel and advice; then once received cling to their naive pre-conceived notions. To each their own but my advice: When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
SL.
You still don't get it. I'll try again:
Lets take golf: a round costs $200 where you come from, and $50 in Thailand. Would you gladly volunteer to pay $200 in Bangkok anyway because that is what you are used to paying? Would that be an ok price for you?
Dude I'm not trying to be combative; just pointing out how illogical your reasoning is.
SL.It's a fair point. In my home, that extra money is going to higher cost of living. Which in turn means better infrastructure. Since the infrastructure in Bangkok / Thailand is much lower / broken, paying $200 for "golf" is a ripoff. . Pay $200 to have sex with someone in a third world country. ?
Thanks to both of you for your info re Thermae. Since I prefer girls who dress well and dance well, and like to see them in form, before I talk to them, I believe Thermae is not for me. Let the Japanese guys have them.Absolutely so. If someone must see scantily clad girls or naked girls or dancing girls before choosing them, he would be wasting his time shopping for Freelancers in a pub, a bar, a restaurant, standing on Sukhumvit or Soi 4 or just about anywhere else for that matter, other than possibly a disco.
When you find these places man, upscale classy normal girls do enlighten me also, I have been looking for them since ages and on the lookout for these places I went to Oskar, Spasso, Ce la vie, levels but all are filled with hardcore pros I look for women who want to enjoy and then when she is happy its amazing copulation between a male and a female organism. That is what I like the preference for uninhibited sex between two individuals no race no creed no looks nothing comes in between only pure lust and that also there is so much desperation to fuck the women literally tears your clothes she only wants your flesh and a dick to subside her burning desire wallaah.
I can be wrong but that's what I like and I think its what you are also looking for if I am not wrong or maybe 25% here or there.
Cheers: Keep on hunting and then maybe lets see who finds a new place first.
AlexRight on dude! However, I don't much care for upscale bars. I much prefer middle class dance clubs where the younger generation and college going gals like to go. Anyways, I'll only have 3 nights to check out the scene, and I'll post my experience after. But I will also check out places like BBeat later in the night, as a fall back option.
It always amazes me when punters come to this website for intel and advice; then once received cling to their naive pre-conceived notions. To each their own but my advice: When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
SL.Agreed Sun, but truth be told, most don't live here and they just can't wrap their heads around the real economic situation in the developing world as it is such a contrast to theirs. BKK attracts two week millionaires far more than any other destination in Asia. The overpaying issue is really not as much a problem in Jakarta or Manila, because most of the expats are there for work, there are very few tourists, and guys don't really retire there. So the P4 P scene reflects to local economy a bit more than it does here.
When you find these places man, upscale classy normal girls do enlighten me also, I have been looking for them since ages and on the lookout for these places I went to Oskar, Spasso, Ce la vie, levels but all are filled with hardcore pros I look for women who want to enjoy and then when she is happy its amazing copulation between a male and a female organism. That is what I like the preference for uninhibited sex between two individuals no race no creed no looks nothing comes in between only pure lust and that also there is so much desperation to fuck the women literally tears your clothes she only wants your flesh and a dick to subside her burning desire wallaah.
I can be wrong but that's what I like and I think its what you are also looking for if I am not wrong or maybe 25% here or there.
Cheers: Keep on hunting and then maybe lets see who finds a new place first.
AlexThe vast majority of "upscale classy normal" girls here are looking for Thai dudes. Most are not interested in Farang. That being said, if you are looking for 20 somethings you might have a shot at, head for Route 66 in RCA. Most women in their late 20's are kind of over the dance club thing. If you want to meet professional Thai women head for the restaurants and bars in Thonglor. Again, most won't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on you if you are on fire, but you never know. All in all nightlife in BKK has been on the wane since the coup and the subsequent economic downturn. Restaurants are no longer full during the week and bars are suffering. Folks don't have as much disposable income.
And really dude, you can chase regular girls back home. Leave the ego on the airplane and enjoy some P4 P fun in BKK.
Many bars will close Friday for Wisaaka Bucha, but it is suggested that Crazy House will operate as normal, since they seem to be able to get round the law sometimes. Today Crazy House was absolutely packed out between 9. 30 and 10.30 PM. Many guys hunting for a seat and having to stand around. No idea why a Tuesday should be quite so busy. It seems like it is time for them to extend this bar into the Old Dutch Ship premises however the lease there hasn't reached it's termination date as yet. So not sure when the expansion will happen.
Line up was not quite top with some extra hot girls girls missing. Ging was working and due to period not quite finished, did not want to be barfined. First time I ever saw her dance really sexy style, since she had a few tequilas in her. Normally she is very shy on the stage. I did not find any girl that inspired me to BF. Again a very slow pass through Soi Cowboy did not find any stunning girls out the front of the bars, so I moved on.
Mr Enternational
05-17-16, 23:37
I need to go to Mix sometime to search out those Latinas since I speak Spanish. That might be fun!That will not be fun at all. Those plastic surgeried up Colombians want 5000 baht, when I can get them for an equivalent of 500 baht in Colombia. I speak Spanish too, but they could give a shit about that. They speak money.
Point taken.
That will not be fun at all. Those plastic surgeried up Colombians want 5000 baht, when I can get them for an equivalent of 500 baht in Colombia. I speak Spanish too, but they could give a shit about that. They speak money.
The vast majority of "upscale classy normal" girls here are looking for Thai dudes. Most are not interested in Farang. That being said, if you are looking for 20 somethings you might have a shot at, head for Route 66 in RCA. Most women in their late 20's are kind of over the dance club thing. If you want to meet professional Thai women head for the restaurants and bars in Thonglor. Again, most won't Code Word on you if you are on fire, but you never know. All in all nightlife in BKK has been on the wane since the coup and the subsequent economic downturn. Restaurants are no longer full during the week and bars are suffering. Folks don't have as much disposable income.
And really dude, you can chase regular girls back home. Leave the ego on the airplane and enjoy some P4 P fun in BKK.You mentioned Thonglor so I wanted to recommend a place, The Commons, located on Soi 17 off Soi 55 in Thonglor (Soi 17 is a longish walk but short taxi ride from Thonglor Bts station / Soi 55). The Commons is the kind of place one can meet young, attractive, professional Thai / Asian girls after their usual workday, say around 6 PM in a very casual dining setting. It is a collection of eateries on 3 levels from, believe it or not, Soul Food to the very popular Roast on the top floor. Farangs are likely to be way outnumbered by Thai / Asians (Japanese, Singaporean, Korean, etc.) living, working, travel working, staying in the area's hotels, so you will be noticed and, in my experience, in a positive way.
This is the kind of place you will usually see a bench-style table full of lovely, non-shy, well-educated, professional Thai girls enjoying (Peppino's) pizza, bbq beef ribs and more than a couple of brews after daytime work hours with a ready smile and willing if not eager to engage in English with a well presented farang rather than circling a half dozen noodle bowls in a closed rap session about whose job it is to launder the towels this time.
The other day I merely said "Sawadee krup" to who I thought was a lovely Thai girl on the elevator. She turned around with a smile and in perfect English complimented me on my Thai. LOL. Right. But she wasn't Thai. She was Singaporean, on holiday with her girlfriends. It was her last night in Bangkok. After we stepped off the elevator we chatted a moment or two, exchanged numbers ostensibly so I would have a friendly contact should I travel to Singapore someday but that delayed plan didn't last long since contact was made for later that night instead. I relate that anecdote because that kind of immediate response and interest is not unusual in that place, whether it is a Thai girl, a Japanese girl or a Singaporean girl.
Some good food there, too. A couple of devoted dessert restaurants, one specializing in waffle creations. The food and ambiance is definitely western rather than Thai so I believe that is an indicator that the young professional girls who go there are more into round eyes than most.
You mentioned Thonglor so I wanted to recommend a place, The Commons, located on Soi 17 off Soi 55 in Thonglor (Soi 17 is a longish walk but short taxi ride from Thonglor Bts station / Soi 55). The Commons is the kind of place one can meet young, attractive, professional Thai / Asian girls after their usual workday, say around 6 PM in a very casual dining setting. It is a collection of eateries on 3 levels from, believe it or not, Soul Food to the very popular Roast on the top floor. Farangs are likely to be way outnumbered by Thai / Asians (Japanese, Singaporean, Korean, etc.) living, working, travel working, staying in the area's hotels, so you will be noticed and, in my experience, in a positive way.
This is the kind of place you will usually see a bench-style table full of lovely, non-shy, well-educated, professional Thai girls enjoying (Peppino's) pizza, bbq beef ribs and more than a couple of brews after daytime work hours with a ready smile and willing if not eager to engage in English with a well presented farang rather than circling a half dozen noodle bowls in a closed rap session about whose job it is to launder the towels this time.
The other day I merely said "Sawadee krup" to who I thought was a lovely Thai girl on the elevator. She turned around and in perfect English complimented me on my Thai. LOL. Right. But she wasn't Thai. She was Singaporean, on holiday with her girlfriends, this was her last night in Bangkok, we exchanged numbers ostensibly so I would have a friendly contact should I travel to Singapore someday but that delayed plan didn't last long since contact was made for later that night instead. I relate that anecdote because that kind of immediate response and interest is not unusual in that place, whether it is a Thai girl, a Japanese girl or a Singaporean girl.
Some good food there, too.The Commons is quite nice. Great variety of food and Roots Coffee moved there from Ekkamai. The dudes who do Roast and Roots are responsible for The Commons. I will also say that the food is not too pricey. And yes, always some amazing eye candy there.
The Commons is quite nice. Great variety of food and Roots Coffee moved there from Ekkamai. The dudes who do Roast and Roots are responsible for The Commons. I will also say that the food is not too pricey. And yes, always some amazing eye candy there.Ah! You know it already. I find it a nice change from the more structured restaurant scene. Not a bad place to bring a girl, too. I have yet to meet a Thai girl (talking about non-bargirl professionals) away from that immediate area who is aware of it.
Ah! You know it already. I find it a nice change from the more structured restaurant scene. Not a bad place to bring a girl, too. I have yet to meet a Thai girl (talking about non-bargirl professionals) away from that immediate area who is aware of it.Besides a monger, I am a bit of a foodie, coffee nut, and beer snot. Also lucky to have a couple of travel / food writers among my close circle of friends who not only tell me about these mainstream places but we also go to amazing hole in the wall places all over the city. Bangkok has to be one of the best food destinations on the planet. Too bad so many dudes don't get out of the lower Suk area. Aside from the Middle Eastern food on 3/1, the area is pretty bad for food.
That will not be fun at all. Those plastic surgeried up Colombians want 5000 baht, when I can get them for an equivalent of 500 baht in Colombia. I speak Spanish too, but they could give a shit about that. They speak money.1. Yeah, quite pointless to go after Latina Chicas outside of their home country, IMO too.
2. Unlike Mr ENT I don't speak much Spanish, but I think, maybe, just maybe, I do just a bit better than him in some Latin Countries. JK Mr. ENT! Haha.
Actually, I think Peru is way better than Colombia, as the Colombians are sometimes risky in many ways, IMO. Peru gets way less Americans and so the novelty factor is a bit more in my favor I think.
Besides a monger, I am a bit of a foodie, coffee nut, and beer snot. Also lucky to have a couple of travel / food writers among my close circle of friends who not only tell me about these mainstream places but we also go to amazing hole in the wall places all over the city. Bangkok has to be one of the best food destinations on the planet. Too bad so many dudes don't get out of the lower Suk area. Aside from the Middle Eastern food on 3/1, the area is pretty bad for food.I second you on that Bangkok is one of the best food destinations on this planet, you just need to find the right places, there is so much variety of food even I get puzzled sometimes what to eat where to eat. For us it is only the malls and even those places have endless restaurants and then huge menu's you are spoilt to the core.
I am so much a fan of trying new places and new food menus and a variety of cocktails I just love new places the ambiance the quality of interiors all this fascinates me and there are so many small small shops serving so exquisite menu even you get surprised sometimes, the best fried chicken I had till date is a small shop next to Davis Sukhumvit 24 it opens only on some nights the owner is the main chef himself and must be a rich Thai who opened the shop just out of his passion I can bet that these fried chicken can beat KFC chicken by 1 to 100 easily in taste.
Cheers.
Peru received about 3. 5 million tourists in 2015 as compared to Colombia receiving about 2 million. Of this amount, many are Latin American citizens visiting Cartagena, which receives more Latin American tourists than any other South American destination.
I lived in Peru for two years only a few short years ago and have traveled in Colombia extensively especially Cartagena. I have to say the Colombian women are infinitely more attractive than Peruvian who are invariably shorter with straight black Castilian hair. The variety of skin and hair colors plus different body types are much more varied in Colombia, plastic surgeries aside.
That being said, Thailand and BKK in particular, is the best of all. I was in Cartagena last fall and there is simply no comparison when compared with Thai women in terms of performance, looks, GFE etc.imho
I was amused to hear that some Colombianas are at Mixx and thought it might be fun to practice Spanish with them but not take them home at those inflated prices. The story also reminded me of a disco they literally took over in Lima from the Peru FL'S but it was for the worst as they jacked up the price and reduced the overall performance one used to receive there.
They were quite the mercenary bunch and found their service levels below what you would normally expect in their home country so 'caveat emptor' if you see them here
1. Yeah, quite pointless to go after Latina Chicas outside of their home country, IMO too.
2. Unlike Mr ENT I don't speak much Spanish, but I think, maybe, just maybe, I do just a bit better than him in some Latin Countries. JK Mr. ENT! Haha.
Actually, I think Peru is way better than Colombia, as the Colombians are sometimes risky in many ways, IMO. Peru gets way less Americans and so the novelty factor is a bit more in my favor I think.
Old New Guy
05-18-16, 08:41
That being said, Thailand and BKK in particular, is the best of all. I was in Cartagena last fall and there is simply no comparison when compared with Thai women.
I've been various times to Colombia, in Cartagena and other places. I can't say that Thai women look better than Colombians, or vice-versa. The average is pretty much the same: average. An hot Colombian will have your jaw drop, an hot Thai can be breath taking.
What is non debatable is that there are far more P4 P places in Thailand, and everything is easier, cheaper and safer. On the other hand when it comes to language and culture there is little difference between mine and Colombians, but as Mr E. said, is not that they give a fuck about that.
So for the time being I've chosen the first of the two worlds.
Peru received about 3. 5 million tourists in 2015 as compared to Colombia receiving about 2 million. Of this amount, many are Latin American citizens visiting Cartagena, which receives more Latin American tourists than any other South American destination.
I lived in Peru for two years only a few short years ago and have traveled in Colombia extensively especially Cartagena. I have to say the Colombian women are infinitely more attractive than Peruvian who are invariably shorter with straight black Castilian hair. The variety of skin and hair colors plus different body types are much more varied in Colombia, plastic surgeries aside.
That being said, Thailand and BKK in particular, is the best of all. I was in Cartagena last fall and there is simply no comparison when compared with Thai women in terms of performance, looks, GFE etc.imho
I was amused to hear that some Colombianas are at Mixx and thought it might be fun to practice Spanish with them but not take them home at those inflated prices. The story also reminded me of a disco they literally took over in Lima from the Peru FL'S but it was for the worst as they jacked up the price and reduced the overall performance one used to receive there.
They were quite the mercenary bunch and found their service levels below what you would normally expect in their home country so 'caveat emptor' if you see them hereAgreed! Hands down Colombians are way, way prettier than the Peruvians, in the aggregate and on average. But, as you note they have trust issues, I think. And, they can be way aggressive and try to take you to the cleaners.
For me, since I am NOT so much into quantity. I just need 3-5 at any one time of good attractive (7's and 8's) who are GFE's.
I stay away from the,9's and 10's except in Sao Paulo. I dunno why! LOL.
I find that about the 7. 5 -8 works best for me, whether be in Thailand or in the Latin Countries (probably because I am now in my mid 50's now) and prefer chicas and Thais in their early 20 's to mid 20's.
Anyways, I am very certain that you are way more experienced than me, so YMMV.
Hahaha. After all this research, I've decided to spend 50 PC of my time in BKK with this Udon Thani girl (a petite 6. 5 ( a 3 on the tits like most Thais brings the score down) who is 27, a baby face and super GFE) I met here in Patts. Silly me! I am writing all this because Uncle V asked me to write detailed reports for his pleasure (or maybe pain). LOL.
Many of you will laugh at me, and rightly so. I just feel like she needs to see BKK as she has never been there. Been here in Patts for about a month, and some other city for a month, before her break up with her husband of 8 years. She did not even know I was headed out in 2 days as I keep everything on a strictly need to know basis. So, I just kinda asked and thought well what the heck. Let her see her own frickin number 1 city! Will have to buy out her missed days on her job here for 600 baht a day. No incremental cost for me really, as I'm taking a taxi and I've booked and paid for a hotel studio suite for 2 with full Buffett breakfast anyway. Will hit the Royal Palace and 1-2 of the top temples on Sat with her and send back via bus.
No worries though. There's like 0 PC chance I am going anywhere with this like GF or anything else. I'm just not the type at all. Zero. Nada. Zilch. As In never, ever. Plus, Thais are not my number one preferred type of gals, as I much prefer Latinas. This one is just a bit of giving back thingy I sometimes do, or at least I rationalize that way maybe! (but sometimes my personal 4 D local pocket universe seems to work in mysterious ways that even I sometimes do not understand, but that would be a super huge digression, so I will leave it at that!).
She's here sleeping in my bed as I type and tomorrow I already have my prior 20 yr old (a solid 7 and I'm a tough grader and never go past 9) massage girl from Ubon R returning to my apt here for another oil massage and she has already agreed to spend tomorrow night here with me again, I will send her off at about 11 am and and this girl here now will arrive at 1 pm.
Just doing this BKK thing with her in tow, because I kinda do the same thing in other countries. I try sometimes to let some of them see some of their own country that they have never had an opportunity to see. But, I will take her to BBeat and a couple of other places, as I have zero prior experience with these clubs and will also use it for observation purposes.
Gannaton48
05-18-16, 09:19
Hi there! Will be in BKK and Pattaya in some weeks, can't wait! However I would feel very uncomfortable being with a LB by mistake. Of course I realize they are everywhere and I read a lot here about how to distinguish them from normal girls. Sometimes it's certainly quite difficult. Now my question: are LBs in Thailand would we would refer as "shemales" or are they operated to the point that they have the same appearance as real girls? In other terms, once in your bed, how does it (generally) look?
Gannaton48
05-18-16, 09:40
In my next visit I plan to go to Spasso to watch the difference. I can afford the price there. Could mongers with experience at Spasso describe a bit how it works? Is it a dance club or more a club for drinks? I am 65, do'nt like to dance. Do girls approach you or do we have to do it? Am I too old for Spasso?
Thank you all in advance for relating more in details such type of stay, so I know how to behave.
In my next visit I plan to go to Spasso to watch the difference. I can afford the price there. Could mongers with experience at Spasso describe a bit how it works? Is it a dance club or more a club for drinks? I am 65, do'nt like to dance. Do girls approach you or do we have to do it? Am I too old for Spasso?
Thank you all in advance for relating more in details such type of stay, so I know how to behave.Sounds like you might be in need of a guide. I've got a buddy who lives in Bangkok and is fluent in Thai, he's from the states and is a teacher in Bangkok. He does travel to Pattaya but only on the weekends. It is something else to be sitting in a disco, watching the hot girls and just have him grab table full of girls to come over to enjoy the bottle we bought. He also taught another senior member here how to speak Thai and has been a tour guide to another so he's vetted by three senior posters. If you need his services send me a pm until he gets registered here.
In my next visit I plan to go to Spasso to watch the difference. I can afford the price there. Could mongers with experience at Spasso describe a bit how it works? Is it a dance club or more a club for drinks? I am 65, do'nt like to dance. Do girls approach you or do we have to do it? Am I too old for Spasso?
Thank you all in advance for relating more in details such type of stay, so I know how to behave.Don't you worry mate Spasso is made for only for you. Its a very nice cool relaxed bar no loud music till 12 am just live chilled out vibe. Loads of very classy Thai babes not young like the go go scene but the matured freelancers 25-35 but dressed very nicely and drinking only red or white wine so no need to worry.
Just go around 8 or 9 dress nicely just don't go in shorts and flip flops like Patts but like a decent gentleman sit at the bar order your drink tip the bar man or women and enjoy your drink and music and there will be women around you like bees like they surround the honey bee.
So relax chill and enjoy the music women will come up to every now and then if you are horny and want to fuck then you know the routine if you are relaxed then offer drink to the lady you like talk to her check her out feel her up see if the assets are up to your mark, if you like her offer her 1 more drink and then be more cosy she will speak her self act cool tell her no need to talk money baby I know everything and ask her you relax have your drink and we go together all night.
Tell her you are hungry but you want eat what she likes she will be more than happy just act cool relaxed super fucking rich and I bet you the night will be yours. Eat well or go to another club with her Mixx or Kudeta where ever she will take you or levels enjoy the night the atmosphere with her treat her like your GF or your lady hold hands kisses feel her up and you will have a super orgasm by the time you will be home.
And if you pop those vitamins do pop them after the dinner or when ever is your time and you are in for a ride of your life, everybody is your age in Spasso 50+ so don't worry.
Chill and cheers,
Alex
Since I will be staying by Soi 23 in Sukhumvit, and I have no clue about the area. Could anyone here suggest 3-4 dance clubs that are close by so that I can take some quick taxis?
I was thinking Bangkok Beat could be one of those? Or is it too far? How about Levels?
Btw, I'd much prefer a dance floor with a DJ and Hip Hop, Pop and Rap music numbers !
I think Bangkok Beat has a live band vs a DJ though ?
Since I will be staying by Soi 23 in Sukhumvit, and I have no clue about the area. Could anyone here suggest 3-4 dance clubs that are close by so that I can take some quick taxis?
I was thinking Bangkok Beat could be one of those? Or is it too far? How about Levels?
Btw, I'd much prefer a dance floor with a DJ and Hip Hop, Pop and Rap music numbers !
I think Bangkok Beat has a live band vs a DJ though ?Haven go to Soi 11. You have Oskar to start the night at 9-10 pm, then levels around 11-12 pm and then climax around 1-2 am then sugar around 3 am so 4 clubs all are within 5 minutes walking distance of each other and all decent freelancer action.
Or you can go Spasso ay around 11 pm and then walk over to Mixx at 2 am and Mixx is 2 clubs in 1 so you have 3 clubs again for the second night.
Cheers
Besides a monger, I am a bit of a foodie, coffee nut, and beer snot. Also lucky to have a couple of travel / food writers among my close circle of friends who not only tell me about these mainstream places but we also go to amazing hole in the wall places all over the city. Bangkok has to be one of the best food destinations on the planet. Too bad so many dudes don't get out of the lower Suk area. Aside from the Middle Eastern food on 3/1, the area is pretty bad for food.Exactly. It's amazing how many tourists, in lots of places, don't stray from the tourist areas. BKK certainly has an amazing variety of outstanding food, especially street food. My biggest gripe is that, at the most interesting stalls, everything is written in Thai. So many things I'd try but unless there are pictures it's almost impossible to order. Even a transliteration would be OK, as I know the transliterations for most of the proteins (gai, ped, moo, etc.), the cooking techniques (ping, pad, tod, etc.), and others, enough to know what to expect if ordering a particular dish. I appreciate that the stands are locals-oriented, but even the smallest joints in Japan can come up with an English menu, when pressed.
These days my main enjoyment is never eating the same thing twice in Tijuana. On a smaller scale it has become a serious foodie destination. I can read Spanish, which helps immensely. Like BKK, there is a great noveau culinary scene and micro brews are hotter than a $2 piston among the young. But, as you said, most guys are scared to leave their comfort zone and broaden their horizons.
Haven go to Soi 11. You have Oskar to start the night at 9-10 pm, then levels around 11-12 pm and then climax around 1-2 am then sugar around 3 am so 4 clubs all are within 5 minutes walking distance of each other and all decent freelancer action.
Or you can go Spasso ay around 11 pm and then walk over to Mixx at 2 am and Mixx is 2 clubs in 1 so you have 3 clubs again for the second night.
CheersThanks so very much for your recommendation. I will have to do just that and figure out how and when to fit Bangkok Beat into all that! Levels looked great on You Tube. But generally, I don't like upscale places, so I will have to see if I like it as much. And I liked Bangkok Beat as well on You Tube. Seemed a bit more of a humble place and a bit less of the pretentious people with ego's. But, from what I gather largely pros.
I just want to meet non pros, or occasional pro FL's who are young and can / love to dance to pop, hip hop and rap. Sex is less important to me, as these days I find that for me it is more unidimesional and is mostly, okay ' been there, done that ' so frickin what( ? )...... BFD (I often say to myself).
So, these days unlike some others for whom (when it comes to women on the traveling circuit ) ' something is better than nothing' , I am firmly in the minority 'nothing is better than something' camp. I don't do short time! The intent always is more than 1 day/night as well. Quality of the totality of the experience trumps quantity,..and quantity is pretty much unimportant and I never keep score or look at trip and ask myself ' how many '?
And so, for me it is all about waking up and saying to myself I like this human being who I find next to me. Another friendly soul and consciousness. I have a rather evovled and complex radar honed over decades ( I would venture to say and certainly that debatable and can be easily and validly critiqued ).... But I can usually see through BS and I am quick to admit my mistake and cut my losses instantly and abruptly. So, for me, statistically speaking, things work out only occasionally and I am A- OK with that, as I much prefer ' nothing over something' 99 PC of my time.
I find in general that as I go upscale it reminds me of my life during my professional days and I hate to see people in suits anymore. Decades of wearing suits and living out of a suitecase turned me off later in life and I kinda hate who I was then. A friggin Wall Streeter.
Anyways, I love the common folks who are humble, peaceful and have humanity in their hearts. Luckily, there is one right next to me right now.... However, I want to meet others like her, here in Thailand and elsewhere.... knowing fully well that it is a rather low event probability occurrence.
Note : This is just what works for me....and I doubt it will for the vast majority of men, so without question YMMV...as it will.
A high end FL and I exchanged numbers recently and she texted me yesterday that I should meet her at a new place on Soi 45, which opened last November, called Sing Sing. She was going for a friends birthday party. I went over and can say that it's a fantastic looking club, very upscale, with a DJ, small dance floor and multi level spaces and floors. They clearly put a lot of money in it and it's unlike any other club in this area. I read it was designed based on old Chinese bordellos. You can also find a few reviews on Trip Advisor. I walked from the PhromPhong BTS station so it's possible to walk from Soi 23 (though a bit of a haul on a warm night) or take a taxi straight down Suk. It's tucked down in a small footpath directly past a furniture store located on Suk. They also have a dress code and frown on sandals and shorts for men.
However, drinks are not cheap. Most cocktails are in the 350 to 400 range. All the beers are listed at 180 bt, however, menu prices do not include tax and service so my Heineken cost 212 bt.
I saw a few Thai girls there though uncertain if they were FL's but if they were you can expect their quoted price to reflect the upscale nature of this place accordingly. There were more small groups than single guys or ladies and quite a few farangs, both men and women. Last night, it could have used more local talent but I think the drink prices scare a lot of Thai girls off.
My FL girl (who I wrote about last week in this thread dropping 10,000 baht on her mother's friend bachorlette party) was there but almost incoherent when I arrived. She was waiting outside the bathroom as her other friends attended to their mutual friend throwing up in the stall. She gave me a kiss and walked me outside from the hallway to a standing table. She asked me what I was doing there? -- 'uhh, you invited me'. Puzzled by her question, I looked for another chair for the table, and during this very short interlude some foreign guy showed up, clearly with her party, and took her upstairs to another part of the club and I did not see her again. It prob saved me a lot of baht in the long run but was pleased to find about this place so no big deal.
As far as BBeat and Levels is concerned, I think you would be pretty hot by the time you arrived if walking from Soi 23. If you take a taxi, the traffic would be proceeding on the opposite even numbered soi's on Suk necessitating a you-turn to get to Bangkok Beat on Soi 7/1. Returning to Soi 23 is easy as the traffic moves in that direction from BBeat and Soi 11.
To go to BBeat, I would take the BRT Sky Train from Asok -- a short walk from Soi 23 -- and get off at the next stop (Nana). BBeat is a short 2 minute walk from this location and the entry to Soi 11 is just steps away from the Nana stop. However, The BRT is only open until midnight. For your return take a taxi. There are many standing ones to choose from but grab one already driving on the road.
Bear in mind that Levels (and Oskars) is located at the end of Soi 11, which means about a 5-7 minute walk from the Nana stop. Also, BBangkok Beat is a live music club playing mostly formula dance hits. Some bands play AC / DC and Journey songs, while others play more contemporary tunes. There are two bands per night. I showed up at 2 am last night though and it was dreadful. The cupboard, so to speak, was picked clean.
Haven go to Soi 11. You have Oskar to start the night at 9-10 pm, then levels around 11-12 pm and then climax around 1-2 am then sugar around 3 am so 4 clubs all are within 5 minutes walking distance of each other and all decent freelancer action.
Or you can go Spasso ay around 11 pm and then walk over to Mixx at 2 am and Mixx is 2 clubs in 1 so you have 3 clubs again for the second night.
Cheers
A high end FL and I exchanged numbers recently and she texted me yesterday that I should meet her at a new place on Soi 45, which opened last November, called Sing Sing. She was going for a friends birthday party. I went over and can say that it's a fantastic looking club, very upscale, with a DJ, small dance floor and multi level spaces and floors. They clearly put a lot of money in it and it's unlike any other club in this area. I read it was designed based on old Chinese bordellos. You can also find a few reviews on Trip Advisor. I walked from the PhromPhong BTS station so it's possible to walk from Soi 23 (though a bit of a haul on a warm night) or take a taxi straight down Suk. It's tucked down in a small footpath directly past a furniture store located on Suk. They also have a dress code and frown on sandals and shorts for men.
However, drinks are not cheap. Most cocktails are in the 350 to 400 range. All the beers are listed at 180 bt, however, menu prices do not include tax and service so my Heineken cost 212 bt.
I saw a few Thai girls there though uncertain if they were FL's but if they were you can expect their quoted price to reflect the upscale nature of this place accordingly. There were more small groups than single guys or ladies and quite a few farangs, both men and women. Last night, it could have used more local talent but I think the drink prices scare a lot of Thai girls off.
My FL girl (who I wrote about last week in this thread dropping 10,000 baht on her mother's friend bachorlette party) was there but almost incoherent when I arrived. She was waiting outside the bathroom as her other friends attended to their mutual friend throwing up in the stall. She gave me a kiss and walked me outside from the hallway to a standing table. She asked me what I was doing there? -- 'uhh, you invited me'. Puzzled by her question, I looked for another chair for the table, and during this very short interlude some foreign guy showed up, clearly with her party, and took her upstairs to another part of the club and I did not see her again. It prob saved me a lot of baht in the long run but was pleased to find about this place so no big deal.
As far as BBeat and Levels is concerned, I think you would be pretty hot by the time you arrived if walking from Soi 23. If you take a taxi, the traffic would be proceeding on the opposite even numbered soi's on Suk necessitating a you-turn to get to Bangkok Beat on Soi 7/1. Returning to Soi 23 is easy as the traffic moves in that direction from BBeat and Soi 11.
To go to BBeat, I would take the BRT Sky Train from Asok -- a short walk from Soi 23 -- and get off at the next stop (Nana). BBeat is a short 2 minute walk from this location and the entry to Soi 11 is just steps away from the Nana stop. However, The BRT is only open until midnight. For your return take a taxi. There are many standing ones to choose from but grab one already driving on the road.
Bear in mind that Levels (and Oskars) is located at the end of Soi 11, which means about a 5-7 minute walk from the Nana stop. Also, BBangkok Beat is a live music club playing mostly formula dance hits. Some bands play AC / DC and Journey songs, while others play more contemporary tunes. There are two bands per night. I showed up at 2 am last night though and it was dreadful. The cupboard, so to speak, was picked clean.Hey, mucho mas thanks Tomasb.
I will only be taking taxis. Because I cannot handle the heat! LOL. Yeah, I know it's Thailand.
1. So, for tomorrow, Sat and Sun night what do you think in terms of best times to go to BBeat vs Levels? I guess most places won't be open until after midnight tomorrow (Fri night / Sat am) due to the holiday and police permission?
2. And, going from Sukhumvit and Soi 23 , if I am going to BBeat, and want to avoid the traffic congestion and U turn requirement, where should I get off and walk across to the opposite side (is there like a landmark that when I see it I can ask the taxi driver to stop and get off) ?
3. On Friday, I think I'm going to stay close and not venture too far and see what quality I can find within close proximity.
4. I never head out usually before midnight. So I am planning on staying out each of the 3 nights from just after midnight until after 4 am, at least.
Based on the hip hop nature of the music, maybe I will also try the Sugar Club on Soi 11 based on your input.
Given the above, what would you recommend Tomas? Thanks, and I very appreciate your time and generous thoughts.
Uncle Volodya
05-19-16, 08:15
Tomasb thanks for the tip about Sing Sing. The place looks really cool. I just love the 1920's Shanghai speakeasy vibe. Though, my guess is that there wouldn't be too many FLs there. But it looks like a great place to take a girl you like, provided that she is a little classy. Byut who knows? Maybe the FL scene will get better there over time.
Haven, yes I would recommend you try Sugar. This was the place I was thinking about in the post I made with recommendations. It plays the best hip hop of any club I've been to in Thailand (believe it or not I know my hip hop). Much better than Ibar, 808, etc.
It gets a mixed and I'd say younger crowd. Not wall to wall FLs like Ibar, but some are available. I hooked up with a super cute 20 year old when I was there in December. I also saw some hot African girls thee too that were on the game and approached me when I went to the bar.
The only negative is that it is kind of small club and can get way too packed. And it only gets going very late at night (but the latter is no problem for a party animal like you). 555.
If coming from either Asok or Siam, ask the driver to drop you at the stairs leading up to the Nana stop. These stairs are open 24/7 and cross Suk. The Nana stop is SOI 8 or SOI 11 depending on your direction. BBeat really gets going around 11:30 most nights. During the week and Sunday's, local beer is 99 bt before midnight. As I noted in a prior post, BBeat opens at midnight Saturday morning and closes at 3 am. In fact, many bars will abide by these same hours so you may encounter some issues on Friday before midnight. Even an Alcocart owner told me they will not open Friday morning at midnight due to police concerns.
Sugar Club is open way pass 4 am so that's your best bet for a late night out.
Hey, mucho mas thanks Tomasb.
I will only be taking taxis. Because I cannot handle the heat! LOL. Yeah, I know it's Thailand.
1. So, for tomorrow, Sat and Sun night what do you think in terms of best times to go to BBeat vs Levels? I guess most places won't be open until after midnight tomorrow (Fri night / Sat am) due to the holiday and police permission?
2. And, going from Sukhumvit and Soi 23 , if I am going to BBeat, and want to avoid the traffic congestion and U turn requirement, where should I get off and walk across to the opposite side (is there like a landmark that when I see it I can ask the taxi driver to stop and get off) ?
3. On Friday, I think I'm going to stay close and not venture too far and see what quality I can find within close proximity.
4. I never head out usually before midnight. So I am planning on staying out each of the 3 nights from just after midnight until after 4 am, at least.
Based on the hip hop nature of the music, maybe I will also try the Sugar Club on Soi 11 based on your input.
Given the above, what would you recommend Tomas? Thanks, and I very appreciate your time and generous thoughts.
It's def gets the hoi-poi of Thai millennials.
I was there on a Wednesday night so it's possible that weekends attract a larger and more diverse crowd though this Friday could be problematic due to Buddha holiday. Taking a real classy girl, non-pro in particular, is highly recommended. Though kind of waste of money taking a pro here. After all, your already 'in'.
Tomasb thanks for the tip about Sing Sing. The place looks really cool. I just love the 1920's Shanghai speakeasy vibe. Though, my guess is that there wouldn't be too many FLs there. But it looks like a great place to take a girl you like, provided that she is a little classy. Byut who knows? Maybe the FL scene will get better there over time.
Haven, yes I would recommend you try Sugar. This was the place I was thinking about in the post I made with recommendations. It plays the best hip hop of any club I've been to in Thailand (believe it or not I know my hip hop). Much better than Ibar, 808, etc.
It gets a mixed and I'd say younger crowd. Not wall to wall FLs like Ibar, but some are available. I hooked up with a super cute 20 year old when I was there in December. I also saw some hot African girls thee too that were on the game and approached me when I went to the bar.
The only negative is that it is kind of small club and can get way too packed. And it only gets going very late at night (but the latter is no problem for a party animal like you). 555.
JerseyShoreSun
05-19-16, 08:54
Buddy,
I think I know the girl whose bday party your friend invited you for. I'm seeing photos now on FB, it was a wild party for sure!! .
It's def gets the hoi-poi of Thai millennials.
I was there on a Wednesday night
Uncle Volodya
05-19-16, 10:42
Though kind of waste of money taking a pro here. After all, your already 'in'.Yeah, I hear you. But hanging out, flirting, and dancing with pretty girls in a a nice environment is also a pleasure for me that I don't mind to spend money on.
That said, she'd definitely have to be a cut above (int terms of class) the average P4 P girl for me to take her there. Btu I have met girls at Oskar's, Levels, Sugar or Mixx that would qualify.
My friend told me it was her girl friends birthday party and I said that I hoped this event was not going to cost you another 10 k bt. She said that for Thai, the person having the birthday is expected to pick up the tab.
So she told me this morning that they went through 5 bottles of vodka. Nevertheless, I imagine a few of her male 'friends' must have chipped in a bit. So maybe I dodged a bullet.
This liquor consumption explains why her friend was throwing up and why she did not remember seeing or kissing me last night.
C'est la vie
Buddy,
I think I know the girl whose bday party your friend invited you for. I'm seeing photos now on FB, it was a wild party for sure!! .
Yeah, I hear you. But hanging out, flirting, and dancing with pretty girls in a a nice environment is also a pleasure for me that I don't mind to spend money on.
That said, she'd definitely have to be a cut above (int terms of class) the average P4 P girl for me to take her there. Btu I have met girls at Oskar's, Levels, Sugar or Mixx that would qualify.Uncly V,
When are you landing from the cold shores of Scandinavian to the hot pussy land of Thais, all the women in sSpasso are waiting for the fav Uncle Vitamin who will fuck the m long and hard.
Cheers: waiting for you to be in LOS.
Alex
Tomasb thanks for the tip about Sing Sing. The place looks really cool. I just love the 1920's Shanghai speakeasy vibe. Though, my guess is that there wouldn't be too many FLs there. But it looks like a great place to take a girl you like, provided that she is a little classy. Byut who knows? Maybe the FL scene will get better there over time.
Haven, yes I would recommend you try Sugar. This was the place I was thinking about in the post I made with recommendations. It plays the best hip hop of any club I've been to in Thailand (believe it or not I know my hip hop). Much better than Ibar, 808, etc.
It gets a mixed and I'd say younger crowd. Not wall to wall FLs like Ibar, but some are available. I hooked up with a super cute 20 year old when I was there in December. I also saw some hot African girls thee too that were on the game and approached me when I went to the bar.
The only negative is that it is kind of small club and can get way too packed. And it only gets going very late at night (but the latter is no problem for a party animal like you). 555.And where are we going to party together uncle V this time in Bkk or Patts or Phuket. I thought I was getting a free party this time Uncle V or my Santa is coming to LOS: would love to party all of us together so tell me your plans and lets see if I can chip into LOS along the same dates for a couple of nights:
Cheers Have fun mate.
Alex
Buddy,
I think I know the girl whose bday party your friend invited you for. I'm seeing photos now on FB, it was a wild party for sure!! .JSS,
Sitting in Mumbai you are watching fb of Thai girls not good mate not good: Fly to BKK join these girls and maybe we can have a joint session in my home in BKK or maybe penthouse 40th floor in Sathorn or Sukhumvit.
Send me the link of the club also mate let me see which club is this, the new one on Suk 45 called sing sing, never seen this before. Does this club have some semi-pro stuff also or have had a girl picked from here before.
Let us know your valuable comments.
Cheers,
Alex
I think I have all the info I need now for my few nights in BKK. I will file a report with my feedback / experience next week. Thanks a million!
JerseyShoreSun
05-19-16, 18:56
Alex,
They are on my wall buddy, its not vice versa. Some of them, like the one whose birthday it was yesterday, are friends developed over years of trips to the Land of Smiles. Sing Sing has been there for a while, mainly hiso thai's and.
I had told you about earlier I thought. The new one opening up is the IronFairies. Seems to be a similar theme to SingSing and Maggie Choo's.
JSS,
Sitting in Mumbai you are watching fb of Thai girls not good mate not good: Fly to BKK join these girls and maybe we can have a joint session in my home in BKK or maybe penthouse 40th floor in Sathorn or Sukhumvit.
Send me the link of the club also mate let me see which club is this, the new one on Suk 45 called sing sing, never seen this before. Does this club have some semi-pro stuff also or have had a girl picked from here before.
Let us know your valuable comments.
Cheers,
Alex
Is there anything cheap or interesting in these areas? I know that this is not far from where a lot of the high-end soapies are on Ratchadapisek, but I'm wondering if there is anything "cheap" around there? Of course I mean relatively cheap - say 1,000-1,500 baht or so - as there isn't anything genuinely cheap in Bangkok anymore.
As I alluded to in my report, Sing Sing appeared to be mainly populated by the HISO crowd and farangs in smaller groups. However, I may have spotted a few FL's in there but did not approach. The girls having the birthday party were prob in the latter group but I do not even know that for certain. I think going on the weekend may be the best time to find out the mix of this crowd.
Alex,
They are on my wall buddy, its not vice versa. Some of them, like the one whose birthday it was yesterday, are friends developed over years of trips to the Land of Smiles. Sing Sing has been there for a while, mainly hiso thai's and.
I had told you about earlier I thought. The new one opening up is the IronFairies. Seems to be a similar theme to SingSing and Maggie Choo's.
I look for extra pretty girls with good bodies, for middle prices, not the cheapest. I don't care where the girls come from, if they fit my spec. Anywhere I find a girl that really appeals and suits me on the bed, I add her to my regular list. Could even be from Tulip, if I could find any girl slimmish and pretty enough.
Crazy House has been a successful bar despite a big decline in the overall quality of their girls since 3 years ago. Tuesday was absolutely packed out with many customers unable to find a seat. Why, I don't know. Thursday was much more quite due to the midnight closing time before the Friday religious holiday. They say CH will be open Friday night with most bars closed. One girl told me she won't come to work, scared will be packed out again, with other bars closed.
Did my usual very slow walk past many bars, looking for someone really stunning. One Coyote at Sahara looked extra good. Surprisingly one girl outside Toy Bar had a very pretty face but I could not see her body properly as she was sitting. Will investigate further another time. Spice girls appeared to have an obvious LB Coyote. Deja Vu also known to have odd LB. Plenty of bars had one or two quite pretty girls out front, but not stunning. Baccara and Sharks did not have any really good lookers out front, IMHO. Mostly older average looking girls outside Baccara. Looked inside Rawhide. Rawhide has 15 Coyotes as well as gogo girls now. Why the fuck? Anything to get some business for a bar not doing well. Maybe only way to get some relatively pretty girls in? Had to admit about 3 of the Coyotes passed my tough looks test. Very few of them could dance Coyote style, and certainly not experts. Expert Coyotes would not be in Rawhide, right? Apparently Long Gun also has Coyotes now. New pretty Coyote in Rawhide, Nut, told me she earned 300 Baht per day in a factory. Now comes to be a Coyote for 500 Baht per day, plus 60 Baht drink commissions. I guess she doesn't have to fuck unless she wants to. I did not ask about BFs. However obviously is earning significantly better than at the factory.
Doll House has them too. Cowboy2 had a very ordinary looking set of Coyotes, IMHO. Can be barfined, but not worth the extra money, mostly. Then there are the Arab bars Rio, Spice Girls, Sahara, Midnite, Kiss, Deja Vu. Did I make any mistakes on that list? I assume they are all his bars but may be wrong. I don't like them generally. Too flamboyantly up market. Expensive drinks. Weak entertainment.
Business is down in the bars. Cowboy seems to be being taken over by Coyotes and gradual creep in of LBs as well. Several Nana bars have had Coyotes in recent times as well.
Yet Baccara and Crazy House have been very successful with no LBs and no Coyotes. So why not copy that approach. Crazy House was very smart. They paid girls higher salaries than elsewhere, but with fines for lateness and non attendance, so many of the pretty girls don't actually receive their salary. They started up with 15 to 20 stunning girls that pulled customers, and so the bar grew quickly. Nudity with good bodies was the answer. The gogo girls at Rawhide were a generally ugly lot, not to same standard as CH, even though CH line up is currently weak IMHO. Big rise in nose jobs and boob jobs, drop in the number of pretty faced girls, however CH is still successful. Its boring for me though if my favorite girls do not show up. I don't need to ogle 50 bald pussies any more. Most look much the same, although some have a bit of fuzz not totally shaved. However I do much prefer to see girls nude than clothed, assuming they have a good body, and quite a few do. I especially hate girls to have bras on. That is a severe problem with Coyotes. Multi-levels of bras hide their tits.
Last night I was fooled, a big build blonde Farang girl came into CH. Apparently well known. Playing up to the girls. My girl Nikki knows her. As she looked rather masculine, I thought that this is a Farang Tomboy. Nikki says I am wrong and that the Farang "girl" is a LB. What the fuck? A LB who likes ogling and playing with nude girls? Do they go off and have hetero-sex?
Another girl dancing on stage looks very much like a LB. Nikki says it just the shear number of surgeries she had on chin, 3 nose jobs, etc. Coupled with rather straight body. Actually a girl with surgeries to look like a LB.
My frequent bars at Cowboy are Crazy House and @Corner bar. When the Old Dutch lease runs out, CH will expand into there. So my two bars will next to each other, well on opposite sides of the Soi. The rest of cowboy seems destined to be heavily influenced by Coyotes and Ladyboys. Too similar to Nana, excepting that at least a few bars are having some naked somewhat ordinary looking girls. There are a few Cowboy bars, particularly newer ones, that I have no experience with at all.
I am not a big fan of the BJ bars located in and around the Nana area. Last Monday, I had dinner at a restaurant located across from two of the most infamous of these venues, including the BJ bar whose name must not be mentioned in this forum.
There is a cute little blond that can be seen frequently outside this humble establishment. Generally, when I walk by she ignores me and never looks up. Same held true this time when I went into the restaurant. However, after exiting the restaurant and walking past this unique BKK bar, I felt someone grab my elbow and turned around to face little blondie. Well, she made her pitch for 800 baht for a blow job but was not interested at the time.
I also noticed she was not quite as pretty as I thought due to her braces and other facial features but still more than acceptable for this type of place. Though I did wonder if she had black hair, if I would notice her at all.
So I returned the next day and approached her but first she wanted to be sure I knew there was no boom-boom on tap. I have read on this forum that sometimes if you are persuasive enough and offer enough baht that it could be arranged. Well, apparently not with her. We then went upstairs to a curtained off booth where I sat while she did her thing. Overall, pretty good job and came in her mouth until she started choking and pulled out a tissue to catch the residue (so to speak). Oh, that's so much, she blurted. Sure, I said. You say that to all the guys but not sure she understood. I did get her to take her off her top showing her tiny little titties and was allowed to stroke them but nothing permitted below the waist.
She also would not take my number or entertain the idea of coming to my apartment. They keep them under tight lock and key at this place. Total cost was 800 plus 100 tip. Cute girl and just a minor daytime diversion.
Christian G
05-20-16, 12:25
So I returned the next day and approached her but first she wanted to be sure I knew there was no boom-boom on tap.Strange! At LOL Itas they have a fixed price 1200 baht for sex behind the curtains baht and 1700 baht for 1 HR in the room.
Thanks for the info. & clarifying their full service prices and that it is available. Perhaps, she had started her period as she did not mention any restrictions the night before. Either that or she just does not offer full service and didn't mention it earlier.
1700 is getting up there for most of those girls.
Strange! At LOL Itas they have a fixed price 1200 baht for sex behind the curtains baht and 1700 baht for 1 HR in the room.
1. Well, Soi Cowboy is 100 PC shut down for the Buddha holiday. But all the Massage places are open. Going to one in a few minutes. They are all about 50-100 baht more here, but I'm sure cost of living here is higher, along with rent for the shop.
2. Checked out Soi 11, everything is open, huge restaurants and bar are mostly vacant and just a few customers. Looks like Levels and their sister late night club, The Sugar Club will be open, because I saw a guy carry huge bags of ice in. And as TomasB said Bangkok Beat will be open after midnight, so my plan is to hit that first and then go to Levels and Sugar Club.
Taxi prices are not too bad either. Just 100 baht between Soi 23 and Soi 11 and I get full AC door to door.
However, taxi from VT 6 to Soi 23 BKK was 1,500 baht and it was a long ride, but smooth traffic in the To BKK direction due to the holiday!
Slight drizzle here in BKK now, but not the getting wet type. May put a damper on things, dunno.
So, in Pattaya. Of all places. Outside VT 6 and Central festival mall, all the massage places (and there's ton), most are professional massage places and I'm not sure many of them will offer a happy ending option. They would not even come to my condo room around the corner. Except for the one that found in the last few days...... Of about 7, I had asked and 3, I had tried on premises.
Here in BKK on Soi 23, so many girls from about 10 massage places near my hotel, some (like maybe 10 PC) of them quite cute, don't seem interested at all in customers who don't want at least a HJ. Haha. LOL They all, it seems, want at least a HJ and are kinda giving me the boo treatment when I said a priori that all I want is a regular massage. Go figure!
I am not a big fan of the BJ bars located in and around the Nana area. Last Monday, I had dinner at a restaurant located across from two of the most infamous of these venues, including the BJ bar whose name must not be mentioned in this forum.
There is a cute little blond that can be seen frequently outside this humble establishment. Generally, when I walk by she ignores me and never looks up. Same held true this time when I went into the restaurant. However, after exiting the restaurant and walking past this unique BKK bar, I felt someone grab my elbow and turned around to face little blondie. Well, she made her pitch for 800 baht for a blow job but was not interested at the time.
I also noticed she was not quite as pretty as I thought due to her braces and other facial features but still more than acceptable for this type of place. Though I did wonder if she had black hair, if I would notice her at all.
So I returned the next day and approached her but first she wanted to be sure I knew there was no boom-boom on tap. I have read on this forum that sometimes if you are persuasive enough and offer enough baht that it could be arranged. Well, apparently not with her. We then went upstairs to a curtained off booth where I sat while she did her thing. Overall, pretty good job and came in her mouth until she started choking and pulled out a tissue to catch the residue (so to speak). Oh, that's so much, she blurted. Sure, I said. You say that to all the guys but not sure she understood. I did get her to take her off her top showing her tiny little titties and was allowed to stroke them but nothing permitted below the waist.
She also would not take my number or entertain the idea of coming to my apartment. They keep them under tight lock and key at this place. Total cost was 800 plus 100 tip. Cute girl and just a minor daytime diversion.
Yeh, I know her habit well to not even look up at the customers.
Her name is Anne. Small A tits yes and not saggy, but not at all the tiniest around if you are used to Thai girls with small tits. She is even cuter with clothes off, since she has a great ass. I am more of "great ass" man. Better looking (cuter) than the vast majority of BJ girls or Oily girls for that matter. I am not too enthused about her BBBJ. Average at best. She struggles with the braces, however was acceptable last occasion.
Definitely she is available for fuck on most occasions for extra tip, however there are occasions when pussy is fucked out and she is not making that available. Potentially could even have been her period. I usually take her in the special room with bed. When fuck is not available, I pass, as a BBBJ rarely interests me, on its own, unless desperate and very limited time. I do get a good GFE with Anne. I guess we know each other and chemistry is quite good, and she knows she will get a tip for a good session.
1. Well, Soi Cowboy is 100 PC shut down for the Buddha holiday. Cowboy was dark mostly. However Crazy House and The Corner were open. Some outside street bars opened up at midnight, but not many.
Nice to know, especially with the GFE. I may have to tap that before I leave for the summer. My friends and I always joke about her reticent and oblivious attitude when one of us walks by though she is apparently a lot more aware of what is going on then she displays. Yesterday, she was wearing a pair of tight white shorts and her ass looked quite fine, indeed.
The name on her hostess card in Ant, not Anne. Also, she frequently cannot be found out front, more than likely because she is already with a customer (so I would not take a long journey to find her). Hence, the potential issue that her pussy becomes exhausted for the day. And, yes, her tits are small, though for me it was a bit reminiscent of being with my high school girlfriend in her parents basement. Kind of a turn on. I think we agree that she could easily find work in a go go bar but perhaps that's not her thing.
Yeh, I know her habit well to not even look up at the customers.
Her name is Anne. Small A tits yes and not saggy, but not at all the tiniest around if you are used to Thai girls with small tits. She is even cuter with clothes off, since she has a great ass. I am more of "great ass" man. Better looking (cuter) than the vast majority of BJ girls or Oily girls for that matter. I am not too enthused about her BBBJ. Average at best. She struggles with the braces, however was acceptable last occasion.
Definitely she is available for fuck on most occasions for extra tip, however there are occasions when pussy is fucked out and she is not making that available. Potentially could even have been her period. I usually take her in the special room with bed. When fuck is not available, I pass, as a BBBJ rarely interests me, on its own, unless desperate and very limited time. I do get a good GFE with Anne. I guess we know each other and chemistry is quite good, and she knows she will get a tip for a good session.
Nice to know, especially with the GFE. I may have to tap that before I leave for the summer. My friends and I always joke about her reticent attitude when walking by though she is apparently a lot more aware of what is going on then she displays. Yesterday, she was wearing a pair of tight white shorts and her ass looked quite fine, indeed.
The name on her hostess card in Ant, not Ann. Also, she frequently cannot be found out front, more than likely because she is already with a customer. Hence, the potential issue that her pussy becomes exhausted for the day. And her tits are small, though for me it was a bit reminiscent of being with my high school girlfriend in her partners basement. Kind of a turn on.Okay About the hostess card saying Ant. However Ant is not a Thai name, and Thais can't even pronounce it. "Mot" meaning Ant, is a Thai name. However she calls herself Ann (not Mot) and so does reception and the other girls. Seems to be her normal Thai nickname. It is just possible that they are pronouncing Ant wrongly as Ann. There are other possibilities since Thais spelling of names in English is atrocious at times. I will try to clear it up next time, for certain. I will ask her to spell her name in Thai letters.
Ann is actually a very common name used by Thai girls, because westerners can pronounce it (and Thais). Ant is not. It would be one of those made up names. Western words like Ann, Benz (pronounced as just Ben), Mint (pronounced Min) are used, but not Ant, in my experience.
http://www.thailandbreeze.com/thai-nicknames.html
Yes, at first I thought she said her name was Ann but then she showed me her hostess card and it said Ant. I said, is your name Ant, and she smiled, and said yes. In any event, you are not going to mix her up with the rest of the non blondes in here. 555.
As far as the closures for alcohol go, it was virtually impossible to find alcohol for sale anywhere. I walked by Hooters on Soi 4 and there were a bunch of forlorn looking guys drinking pineapple smoothies or something similar. The beer bars on the other side of the street were closed with several being painted or undergoing general maintenance. The restaurants in Terminal 21 were not serving booze as I tried to get a drink at Fuji with my Thai date to no avail.
Central BKK also appeared very slow for a Friday night after midnight. Not a lot of foot traffic on Suk in the area around Soi 11. Bangkok Beat was not too busy either with many of the normal attendees AWOL. Since I had a nice time with my date at my apartment, I was not real interested anyway. On the plus side, it is an easy and significantly cheaper way to bring a girl back to your apartment or a hotel for a drink (and sex) since everything else is closed. My dinner date at Fuji cost 650 baht as there was no alcoholic drinks purchased.
However, I was also successful in purchasing booze yesterday. There is a Villa grocery in the basement of the building across from the Marriot near Soi 0. Usually, you can purchase booze there even during 2-5 pm time period as I am told their cash registers are not time set, unlike other grocery stores that don't allow purchases during the afternoon. Yesterday, there was a sign saying booze was not for sale due to holiday and apologized for the inconvenience, which was sitting in front of the cash register. But I did not notice the sign and asked the clerk if I could buy booze. Sure, he said, and I went and picked up a bottle of Bacardi, paid for it, and left no problem.
Okay About the hostess card saying Ant. However Ant is not a Thai name, and Thais can't even pronounce it. "Mot" meaning Ant, is a Thai name. However she calls herself Ann and so does reception and the other girls. Seems to be her normal Thai nickname. It is just possible that they are pronouncing Ant wrongly as Ann. There are other possibilities since Thais spelling of names in English is atrocious at times. I will try to clear it up next time, for certain.
Yes, at first I thought she said her name was Ann but then she showed me her hostess card and it said Ant. I said, is your name Ant, and she smiled, and said yes. In any event, you are not going to mix her up with the rest of the non blondes in here. 555.
As far as the closures for alcohol go, it was virtually impossible to find alcohol for sale anywhere. I walked by Hooters on Soi 4 and there were a bunch of forlorn looking guys drinking pineapple smoothies or something similar. The beer bars on the other side of the street were closed with several being painted or undergoing general maintenance. The restaurants in Terminal 21 were not serving booze as I tried to get a drink at Fuji with my Thai date to no avail.
Central BKK also appeared very slow for a Friday night after midnight. Not a lot of foot traffic on Suk in the area around Soi 11. Bangkok Beat was not too busy either with many of the normal attendees AWOL. Since I had a nice time with my date at my apartment, I was not real interested anyway. On the plus side, it is an easy and significantly cheaper way to bring a girl back to your apartment or a hotel for a drink (and sex) since everything else is closed. My dinner date at Fuji cost 650 baht as there was no alcoholic drinks purchased.
However, I was also successful in purchasing booze yesterday. There is a Villa grocery basement in the basement of the building across from the Marriot near Soi 0. Usually, you can purchase booze there even during 2-5 pm time period as I am told their cash registers are not time set, unlike other grocery stores that don't allow purchases during the afternoon. Yesterday, there was a sign saying booze was not for sale due to holiday and apologized for the inconvenience, which was sitting in front of the cash register. But I did not notice the sign and asked the clerk if I could buy booze. Sure, he said, and I went and picked up a bottle of Bacardi, paid for it, and left no problem.
Okay About the hostess card saying Ant. However Ant is not a Thai name, and Thais can't even pronounce it. "Mot" meaning Ant, is a Thai name. However she calls herself Ann and so does reception and the other girls. Seems to be her normal Thai nickname. It is just possible that they are pronouncing Ant wrongly as Ann. There are other possibilities since Thais spelling of names in English is atrocious at times. I will try to clear it up next time, for certain.
Yes, at first I thought she said her name was Ann but then she showed me her hostess card and it said Ant. I said, is your name Ant, and she smiled, and said yes. In any event, you are not going to mix her up with the rest of the non blondes in here. 555.
Thais can't tell the difference between Ann and Ant. The 'T' becomes silent.
Eric Swiss
05-21-16, 07:39
However, I was also successful in purchasing booze yesterday. There is a Villa grocery in the basement of the building across from the Marriot near Soi 0. Usually, you can purchase booze there even during 2-5 pm time period as I am told their cash registers are not time set, unlike other grocery stores that don't allow purchases during the afternoon. Yesterday, there was a sign saying booze was not for sale due to holiday and apologized for the inconvenience, which was sitting in front of the cash register. But I did not notice the sign and asked the clerk if I could buy booze. Sure, he said, and I went and picked up a bottle of Bacardi, paid for it, and left no problem."the building across from the Marriot near Soi 0" is called "Ploenchit Center". This is a straight commercial mall with a MacDonalds, Starbucks, etc. If it is true that you can buy booze from the Villa Market inside Ploenchit Center when everywhere else is shut out, this is valuable information. I may have to test the hypothesis myself when the situation arises next.
Yes, that's the name of the building. I have purchased alcohol there numerous times between 2-5 pm so you should have no problem.
"the building across from the Marriot near Soi 0" is called "Ploenchit Center". This is a straight commercial mall with a MacDonalds, Starbucks, etc. If it is true that you can buy booze from the Villa Market inside Ploenchit Center when everywhere else is shut out, this is valuable information. I may have to test the hypothesis myself when the situation arises next.
Blanquiceleste
05-21-16, 08:21
However, I was also successful in purchasing booze yesterday. There is a Villa grocery basement in the basement of the building across from the Marriot near Soi 0. Usually, you can purchase booze there even during 2-5 pm time period as I am told their cash registers are not time set, unlike other grocery stores that don't allow purchases during the afternoon. Yesterday, there was a sign saying booze was not for sale due to holiday and apologized for the inconvenience, which was sitting in front of the cash register. But I did not notice the sign and asked the clerk if I could buy booze. Sure, he said, and I went and picked up a bottle of Bacardi, paid for it, and left no problem.Information that will help experienced mongers, newbies and managers alike. Life saving nugget I have added this to the ROD thread.
Information that will help experienced mongers, newbies and managers alike. Life saving nugget I have added this to the ROD thread.It surprises me if guys cannot have fun without booze. I do so very regularly, so lack of alcohol is never going to be a problem unless the girl needs to have a few leg openers.
Crazy House and most bars have Yaa Dong, a herbal alcoholic drink for the girls to drink at start of evening to reduce their inhibitions so they will feel happy dancing nude and very provocatively.
I have only fucked one girl in weeks after several drinks for myself, and fortunately went well because she was just so hot with magnificent tits, good soft BBBJ, and lovely pussy. However usually alcohol reduces my sensitivity, and is not a great idea before sex.
My report.
Last night got 2 blowjobs [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) BJ bar. Picked up a cute free lancer from outside a bar and fucked her really hard in my hotel. Bjs were 800 each and free lancer 1500 all up.
I will probably call this trip quits if pattaya is anywhere as horrible as Bangkok. Good girls but awful country. Why do people holiday here?
Uncle Volodya
05-21-16, 13:16
My report.
Last night got 2 blowjobs BJ bar. Picked up a cute free lancer from outside a bar and fucked her really hard in my hotel. Bjs were 800 each and free lancer 1500 all up.
I will probably call this trip quits if pattaya is anywhere as horrible as Bangkok. Good girls but awful country. Why do people holiday here?What don't you like about Thailand? The food is great, the nature is beautiful, the culture interesting, and the people are fun loving, kind and friendly (at leas most of them).
Have you been out of Sukhumvit? I guess it can get pretty dreary and depressing there. The place is ugly, rundown, hot and crowded and the people there can be mercenary. I agree that there is not much there besides the girls and a few fun clubs and descent restaurants.
But other parts of the country (and even BKK) are very different.
Pattaya not so much, though its definitely more laid back.
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I dunno mann! I liked Pattaya and it grew on me. One thing that works for me, wherever I go (Peru, Brazil, DR, and now Pattaya) is that I find the things, places, restaurants and the kinds of venues and kinds of girls I like and stick to them. So, in Pattaya I found the specific routine and circuit that I liked and towards the end, stayed within my zone of comfort and conscious ambiance. For me, it was my condo building, ,the services there, right next door at Central Festival mall, Ibar and Insomnia and several massage places. I avoided the beer bars and Gogo places altogether and did not indulge in a soapy this time either.
One thing I would do next time, that Mr ENT, has suggested, and I did not have the time to really do, is try and meet girls in natural settings outside if Walking Street or Beach Rd or the 1-14 Sois.
So, YMMV, but I plan to be back for a month next time, probably in Jan, and I plan to primarily stick to the mini local pocket Universe of my own creation and tune out the rest of the noise ) from my POV ). And, try to just talk to and meet girls in more natural settings.
Just finished five days in BKK after three or so in Pattaya. In a nutshell, I can say that I've ensured that Kasalong will remain in business for some time to come and that gallons of Coke don't make bar girls look any better.
The second part first. I roamed Nana and / or Cowboy each night with vague intentions of a bar fine, though as usual I never followed through. There were certainly candidates, but I just couldn't get interested enough given that Kasalong was just two blocks from my hotel (this also explains the visits to Nana, which is not one of my usual haunts).
At Cowboy Sharks had some cuties, though with too much clothing. As others have said, supposedly one of the great things about plucking from go-gos is that one should know what one is getting. Still, their cuties were good enough for me to gamble on, betting that when everything came off saggy boobs, stretch marks, or dicks wouldn't come tumbling out.
For me Baccara was as usual top of the line in looks (recall that looks are subjective), but I just go there for the window shopping. My admittedly few experiences with their girls, even just buying LD's, have not been good. Waiting for someone a little more Japanese, I think.
Suzy Wong was pretty bad. As it is nude the good was that you could definitely see what you'd be renting. The bad was that you could definitely see what you'd be renting.
I tried Crazy House twice hoping it would live up to my memories and Syzygies' reports. Maybe I chose the wrong nights. Both times I got there around 8 PM and stayed for an hour to see what new blood arrived. Several had great potential as they walked in but, again, when the clothes came off the disappointment was crushing. Not a lot of uglies, just nothing great. On the second night my opinion might have been tarnished a bit by two guys, one bald, the other dressed like he chose from the bargain racks at a trailer park yard sale, molesting a dancer both on stage and even more so off stage.
Am I some sort of Puritan morals campaigner? Hardly! The problem was she was so horrific looking that the idea that fellow males, even near-comatose drunks, would find her appealing was degrading to the male gender in general, including rodents but particularly humans. Kind of like when the president of one of the most powerful nations on earth was found to be banging (or not) a chubby intern. The shame!
The object of their affections sported an array of studs around her mouth that made my privates wince, and my privates have seen some shit (see "Kasalong", above). I can only imagine that a blow job would be like copulating with a porcupine. To think I could have waited to meet her and not been banned from the city zoo for that!
Perhaps the cutest thing there both nights was one of the waitresses, but there is again the clothes problem. Speaking of wait staff, I found it vaguely disturbing that one of them remembered me from maybe three visits half a year or more ago. The kind of tiny one with a ponytail who seems to work the area to the left as one fights one's way through the damned curtain at the door. Why do these people remember me? A girl at the Black Pearl BJ bar in Angeles remembered me three years later, by name and home state. I know I'm no Brad Pitt, so I can only assume the other extreme.
I hit a few other Cowboy venues, e. G. , Dollhouse, Tilac, and I think it was Long Gun (nudes), but didn't tarry long enough to give them a real evaluation. Saw a couple of potentials at the Dollhouse but had to get to Terminal 21 before 10 PM and never made it back. Might be worth a look.
At Nana I hit Bangkok Bunnies, Erotica, Jail Birdz, Billboard and I think Mandarin (to the right of the escalator as one steps off). Erotica and Jail Birdz were busts, though I believe the latter just reopened after some troubles so it may ramp back up to respectability. Billboard had some candy, but mainly on the rotating stage where too much is left to the imagination. The tub girls seemed more average. It also featured an incredibly annoying mamasan, in case you're looking for one of those.
Bangkok Bunnies is now half of its former self: The right hand stage is unused as is the seating in that area. Of course, since this is Thailand, the associated bar IS operational and that seemed to be where the dancers were required to go get their LD's, so the round trip could stretch into days. There were several quite doable girls there and I, of course, ended up buying LD's for someone other than them. I have an excuse, though. The sweet lass plopped down beside me and after the required-by-law preliminaries about where I was from, how long was I in Bangkok, had I ever done a porcupine, etc. , she noted that I was oozing sweat towards her. Rather than flee she suggested an awesome spot where half the air conditioners and fans ever made concentrated their efforts. That was definitely worth a couple LD's. But there was that ugly thing about maybe a bar fine. She did have a nice face and certainly didn't have sagging tits one would first have to have tits for them to sag so I decided to buy time and told her I would be back the next night. I was. She wasn't there. Whoohoo! Off the hook!
So if I wasn't sharing my precious bodily fluids with bar girls, where was it going? As you could probably guess by the opening of this report, the Kasalong girls were far from dehydrated during my stay. It was a nightly ritual and a very good one until the last visit. First night taller, heavier girl. Awesome technique, stamina, and work ethic. Second night, shorter, heavy girl. Decent work, again cheerily bobbing away without "You no cum?" queries as a shockingly large number of minutes paraded by. Eventually I gave a hand assist and things got satisfyingly messy. Third night hoped for the first girl but by my policy of first-in-queue I got close, but no cigar: I go the second girl again. But kudos to her: She was a quick learner and showed up with a lot of oil and I got an amazing hybrid blow-hand job that easily rivaled the first night. Sadly the last visit was absolutely ordinary, including the traditional hand assist that seems to be standard procedure for me. A LOT of hand assist. It started out promisingly as the girl was actually relatively cute, even by non-BJ bar standards, but had perhaps too gentle a touch for my tool which is generally engaged in sexual relations with a hand that can crush rocks. Still, three out of four were good and two spectacularly so, so I can't complain given the money involved.
Speaking of bargain prices, I got accosted heading home on Soi 6 by a scrawny skank offering full service for 300 baht. I can remember being so cheap long ago that I would have taken the chance. Now I have at least some standards. Just kidding! Actually I was overheating and had to get to my air conditioner.
The last night, as it was the holiday, I didn't really know what to expect. I verified the night before that Kasalong would be open but also had Plan A. I was going to try the escort scene. I'll delve into that in a report in that thread. Suffice it to say that things went quite well, as they should for that kind of money.
So overall a pretty good time. Hot girls in certain venues, good blow jobs in another. Who could ask for more? I only regret that I cut this trip into little chunks instead of settling into one place. I'm done with Pattaya and Bangkok, now in Angeles and heading for Indonesia in four days. This October-November I'll likely just stay in Thailand for the month long visit.
Uncle Volodya
05-21-16, 18:18
So overall a pretty good time. Hot girls in certain venues, good blow jobs in another. Who could ask for more? I only regret that I cut this trip into little chunks instead of settling into one place. I'm done with Pattaya and Bangkok, now in Angeles and heading for Indonesia in four days. This October-November I'll likely just stay in Thailand for the month long visit.Thanks for sharing. You have a way with words. Very amusing.
Is this the one in Grand Hyatt?
Don't you worry mate Spasso is made for only for you. Its a very nice cool relaxed bar no loud music till 12 am just live chilled out vibe. Loads of very classy Thai babes not young like the go go scene but the matured freelancers 25-35 but dressed very nicely and drinking only red or white wine so no need to worry.
Just go around 8 or 9 dress nicely just don't go in shorts and flip flops like Patts but like a decent gentleman sit at the bar order your drink tip the bar man or women and enjoy your drink and music and there will be women around you like bees like they surround the honey bee.
So relax chill and enjoy the music women will come up to every now and then if you are horny and want to fuck then you know the routine if you are relaxed then offer drink to the lady you like talk to her check her out feel her up see if the assets are up to your mark, if you like her offer her 1 more drink and then be more cosy she will speak her self act cool tell her no need to talk money baby I know everything and ask her you relax have your drink and we go together all night.
DwayneJohnson
05-21-16, 19:42
My report.
Last night got 2 blowjobs BJ bar. Picked up a cute free lancer from outside a bar and fucked her really hard in my hotel. Bjs were 800 each and free lancer 1500 all up.
I will probably call this trip quits if pattaya is anywhere as horrible as Bangkok. Good girls but awful country. Why do people holiday here?People go to Phuket, ChaingMai, Krabi, KohSamui etc for holidays and Mongers go to Pattaya, BKK for holidays. This is best country in the world for me but YMMV.
Christian G
05-21-16, 20:29
Is this the one in Grand Hyatt?Yes, Grand Hyatt Erawan.
Is this the one in Grand Hyatt?Yes TT it is in the grand Hyatt Erawan a nice bar starts at around 6 pm with very classy Thai chicks not young a bit old lets say 25-35 but dressed very sexy and smelling very nice beautiful make up nice shoes not gulping beer or shots only white or red wine.
After you finish here at 2 am just walk over the red light on the right at you are at the Mixx.
Cheers.
Enjoy.
P.S: Latest ground info: There is some CIS and Colombians also visiting spasso these days:
So, the first evening / night at my hotel was a downer. AC not working well enough (I like it cold) and water leak from bathroom sink, wifi problems, LOL. This took several visits from engineering and it was not until late evening I reported these water and AC issues. Hotel on Soi 23 right around the street from Soi Cowboy (about 5 min walk max). So, with things not fully fixed but with wifi good (they installed an in room router to boost the signal) I left around 1230 at night and told them I would be gone for 3 hours and they better have things fixed by the time get back.
So, I head out to Soi Cowboy on Friday just to check because I thought things would open up around midnight after the Buddha holiday curfew. Well, I head out to Bangkok Beat via taxi and I am surprised at how different it looked in real life and where it was located, but anyway the guys at the entrance seem nice and I enter. IMO, the place is a frickin dump. I stay just 1-2 minutes to survey the place and the few girls who are there (all 5's and under IMO) and I leave without buying a drink.
Head over to Soi 11 where things looked better, I had walked by there in the late afternoon, but somehow I missed Levels this time around and came up to The Sugar Club and saw it was active. 200 baht to enter (one beer or non brand mixed drink incl) and the place was packed. But, soon I discover (maybe because of the Buddha holiday?) it's packed with an extreme hip hop bunch of people (like NYC and even Classicos in Sosua), 2/3 men, and 1/3 girls, with the girls being mostly white chicks American, Euro AUS / NZ and Russia / CIS (yeah). Thai girls maybe 10 PC of the entire population there and they were mostly in groups (friend, coworkers and with their farang colleagues). Nevertheless, I am beginning to enjoy the music and the ambiance and I have a good time dancing / grooving until 515 am and then just head back home, because I had pretty tapped out by my massage girl from earlier in the am, until 1130 am in Pattaya. Drinks are expensive at Sugar (250 baht for brand name drinks) , and I probably spend 2000 baht there just on myself! But, it I was ok with that.
So, sleep in pretty late and now they upgrade me to a room with a nice balcony and bigger sq ft. And everything is working fine but with my same in roomwifi booster. Getting to head out late Sat night, and get a ding on my iPad and I have to spend an hour resolving some urgent family matter. And now I head out but my frame of mind is down from the incident (which in the overall scheme of things is not a biggie but I was frustrated by it anyway). So, I head out to The Italian Restaurant (the big one on Sukhumvit and Soi 23 intersection) and have a nice Fettucine Carbonara and it's like $9. Wifi there is good and I am finishing up the other family stuff.
Walk over now and see all these small sidewalk mobile bars around from Soi Cowboy (I did check out Crazy House, some beautiful girls no doubt) but by now it's 1 am and the guy to girl ratio in there is at least 3 to and 1 and I spot Japanese, and other tourist know I'd be wasting my time with such a ratio and with it having been closed the previous night.
But, I am curious about the girls in the sidewalk mobile bars and see some girls that are not too shabby. So, I walk back and girth and there's many trying to get me to come visit with them. After going back and forth this one girl, quite cute actually, starts talking to me and after about 5-10 minutes of her propositioning me for 1,500 (saying she will do everything) I am actually now getting interested. Now, this girl, starts digging at my John and tries to get me excited and she is wearing a halter top and she takes my hand and opens the top down just a bit to reveal just the kind of firm tits I like. She is 22 (I saw her ID) but she is def drunk a bit and she wants me to play with her tits on Sukhumvit RD and I smile and oblige. Man, I loved those tits. So firm and perfect. She is nit a slim or petite girl but not fat either. So now, she wants a tip for that! Haha. Ok, I pull out 20 baht (because I was kinda forced into it on the street right there ) and she like says she wants more for the 30 seconds that she took my hands and had me fondling her titties in the sidewalk bar area. Now, I am just about to take this girl, cause I have the hots for her, and notice the somewhat angry expression she showed on her face because I just gave her only 20 baht and I change my mind, knowing she is drunk and could be an in-room issue, and get a taxi to Soi 11 and head to Levels Club. Problem : they want me to check my hat behind (and it's an my expensive brand name hat, which I can no longer find and love too dearly) and so I say screw that and head back to the Sugar Club almost next door. ( I have been offered over $100 for that in bars back home cause it is no longer available and it has a following ).
Hang out there until 5 am and have good time with a more balanced crowd Sat night, but way too many young and good looking blond, farang men (many model quality) and some really beautiful blond girls also model quality! I don't feel like I can score anything good due to the competition. Still I enjoy and hang around until 5 am. Some serious tourist money floating around tonight. Sugar Club sells these packages of multiple bottles and mixers for 10000 baht and up, and one European guy and his dad are on this sofa with 3 Vodka bottles ( the dad sees me, Stands up says hi In broken English and hands me an almost full (like 90 PC) and says they have too many bottles. I say I don't drink Vodka and give him fives and say thanks. He then wants to know if I prefer whisky and he will get me a bottle. And, again I feel bad I have to decline. I can vouch that after 2 nights there is some serious money being made is this packed hip hop place. Anyways, I enjoy until 5 am and I them I leave and get a cab.
This cabbie wants to take me to a dive bar that very few know. Ok, I go along and arrive at this dive 2-3 story bar, (lower level closes after 4) and action moves up until 8 am, I am told. Francis is the owner / manager and the bartender lady is super great, classy and speaks good English. See a couple of American guys with suits and wedding rings partying and wonder how in the world they got to the dive place. Let me guess: their cabby. Mine also tried to sell me the little blue pills. Anyway, I'm like do I even want to be here. Until I see about 3 of the 15 girls who are kinda cute. One in pony tails (25) from Isaan (may have Japanese blood and has young Japanese features and slim body but she is playing a game on her phone, sitting at the little bar there but seems uninterested in me. Francis tells me I can take any girl there to my hotel for ST 3 K, or LT 4 K. I negotiate and agree on 2. 5 K LT and a mixed drink there costs me 200 baht which is suprising. Then, I see the other 2 girls, both about 24-26 , one blond and petite but wide hips, and the other cute, dressed in a nice 2 piece blue skirt suit, and with a US gym instructor strong athletic build. After talking to all 3 , I decide on the one with a blue suit as I like her body and she looks very presentable for me for my 6 am hotel entrance. She is nice in the car and the room and we chat for quite some time and it's all good. Then I ask for a massage, she takes a shower and then asks if she will get a tip and I say yeah, if it is a good massage. She is from Buriram and she is okay and then we get with the action soon enough and everything about her body is as expected, super firm tits and ass and we have a good time. And I take a shower. She does the same again, but now she emerges dressed and it's only 3 hours max, not what I had agreed to, for the 2. 5 K I had paid to Francis. And, I am thinking to myself okay this girl is going to do the ST switcheroo and sue enough she says only some girls there will do LT, she can't, but if I agree to an additional tip for her she will stay until 2-3 pm. I decline and off she goes.
And, I'm now saying to myself, man I screwed up. I should have known to confirm with the girl in front of Francis and all three of us are on the same page. But, I didn't and it's all my fault. I can't believe I made this kinda rookie mistake but I really felt it would not be problem (wrong!!).
So goeth my first 2 nights and as I noted I am missing Pattaya already because BKK is like any other big commercial city and its all just commerce. No GFE like Pattaya. More reason next time to never stay in BKK.
Haven 123, I just read your report and had to be amused with several of your comparisons. When you travel to disparate locations, even in the same country, there are are always some mental adjustments required.
For example, I don't go to Bangkok Beat because of the ambience of the place. In the end, its a rock and roll bar a la Spanky's or a roadside joint in the US one might find in the southern US. That's part of the charm for the place, at least for me, as this contributes a less pretentious attitude exhibited by the patrons. And as far as the girl quality, your mileage will vary on any given night anywhere in Bangkok particularly if you don't stay very long. BBeat usually gets going around midnight and last night there were some attractive girls in there. However, if they don't see what they are looking for, they move on too. I sat at a table with several beautiful girls who decided to go to another club. I was having some stomach distress last night so opted out of horizontal activities.
I agree that Friday in BBeat was particularly bad for girls, especially quality, but that might have to do with the holiday falling on the weekend as many of the girls are from Issan and other areas in then country and left to see their family or did not go out at all as the holiday can be a bit of a downer when it eliminates imbibing for half of the evening.
Your take on Sugar Club is pretty accurate. I found too many faring women in there on my one visit. I know that's a non-starter for me and as an older guy, I have a slim to none chance of picking up a farang woman. I am also suspicious of being in a club until 6 am. I go to a club to pick up girls as efficiently and in a timely manner, as possible. I don't go to dance the night away until the wee hours, drop 2 k baht drinking (better used for the girls fee), and find myself (if I am lucky) with a girl at 5 am who passes out in my bed or throws up in my bathroom.
Levels has a strict dress code and once I was denied entry for wearing open toed sandals. It seems pretentious to me as well due perhaps to the its connection to the fancy hotel. Same holds true for Oskars across the street. As far as the alcocart girls, I just smell bad service from this group. Just this week, I was chatting up a girl who wanted 2 k plus a 500 BF for short term. I could have prob tried to negotiate her price but when she told me it was 5 k for long term, I passed in total.
So my overall point is that you are not going to capture Bangkok (in your heart) in a short weekend. It's a much more complex city than Pattaya and it takes time to figure out which venues and locations suits you best. Last night, for example, I was sitting outside BBeat around 2:30 am. A girl sat down next to me who I recalled seeing in there several days ago, but not really my type, at least the prior evening. Turns out she is a real businesswomen on a trip from the provinces and leaving at 6 am this morning for a flight to the north -- she showed me the flight schedule on her phone. I thought for one glorious moment I had stumbled on a freebie. She was fluent in English and we chatted on a variety of subjects. After several minutes! I asked her to come to my apartment, which she declined thereby confirming her non P4 P status. Still we had a nice conversation and she even recalled seeing me few months ago at a coffee shop on Soi 11. We made an informal agreement to meet next Saturday at the Beat, after she declined my second offer to kill some time at my apartment, 555. She said 'well, you are just going to fuck me there' confirming she has a sense of humor too. Of course, that situation does not happen generally to a tourist but it's this type of encounter I love about Bangkok. Anything can happen on any given day as long as you remain friendly and open and maintain a certain bit of caution.
The advantage, of course, is if you live here you don't have to treat every night as a night in which you need to find someone to justify ones lengthy and expensive trip. But in the end, as a tourist, each hour though is precious and is sometimes wasted on foolish pursuits going up blind alleys so to speak. It appeared this happened to you particularly ending up at that suspect club at the end of your night with an even more suspect arrangement with that girl. That was almost getting into Hangover 2 territory and shows the potential pitfalls of traveling solo. Remember. Your not in Kansas anymore!
?...... That was almost getting into Hangover 2 territory and shows the potential pitfalls of traveling solo. Remember. Your not in Kansas anymore!Haha, Good one Tomasb.
1. I so totally enjoy drinking and dancing in good, hot clubs all over the world. It makes me happy. Yeah, I spent 4000 baht, maybe more in 2 nights at the Sugar Club, BUT it made very happy during the time I was there. Funny thing is a couple of the waitresses and even the blond American (I think) usher / VIP area usher (the one with the big boobs in her 30's) would keep brushing her boobs against my chest and try to dance with me for a minute or two. And, last night, at like 430 am, this young 20 something blond white model looking dude (but not tall) , comes over to me from his table (with his table) and gives me a hug and wants to chat (and I'm like huh, I dunno maybe the bisexual or something) and I kinda reply ' what's going on? ' and look away. So, yeah, I love when shit like that happens. It's the adventure that I love!
2. And so cab driver thing was also an adventure. I've done that sort of thing all over, during the past decades, from Turkey to E and W Europe, Central and S America (yeah even Colombia back then when bombs were going off in Bogota), America, Israel and Asia. I am not a scaredycat. And fortunately I've never had any issues with a cabbie. Only a stick up with by a teenager in downtown Curitiba and a drugging vis something in booze that a girl was kissing me with and shooting her drink into my mouth on the dance floor in Fortaleza. So, I've been lucky and totally willing to take risks for the sake of adventure like getting into a cage with a very huge tiger with my arm on it take a picture at the Sriracha tiger zoo about 2 weeks ago. In Sao Paulo Brazil this Jan/ Feb, I partied almost every night until 5 am in a dance bar and went to Love Story after that until 8 am sooo many times in the heart of downtown Sao Paulo.
So, I'm down for the adventure and love that type of risk.
3. There was no major problem with the arrangement from that private dive bar. If the girl had just stayed and been good she would have for sure made more than when she tried to hustle me. I always underpromise and overdeliver. I just close things out pronto when I feel there are trust issues on a deal. One girl in Pattaya agreed to 1500 LT and she was the best and super GFE. She stayed with me for several days and nights. I went shopping with her, bought her stuff to wear to go out with me etc and had zero problem dropping 2k on just that. She never ever looked at anything I gave her , and I gave her about 15 k in total over 4 days and spent another 3k just on drinks and food with her. So, for me, I always start out low and see where things go....and the ones who never being up money or time and are total GFE I am very generous with them not just with money but also my heart ( during the time I am with them 100 PC attention ). And, I won't be seeing or talking with that girl again until I return next, by which time she might have ( and should have) a farang BF. I don't have her FB or any other info and I do that on purpose .....
Now, as far the Alocarts (did not know that name so thanks) I think I may just check them out again and sit and have a drink this time (but not more) because it just seems low risk adventurous fun that I may not get to do again for a while and try to chat with some of those girls. LOL. I have not seen anything of this style / quality and density in Pattaya and these are surely trying to feed off Soi Cowboy.
Uncle Volodya
05-22-16, 07:00
So goeth my first 2 nights and as I noted I am missing Pattaya already because BKK is like any other big commercial city and its all just commerce. No GFE like Pattaya. More reason next time to never stay in BKK.Hey Haven Old Buddy.
I am sorry to hear you have the Pattaya a blues. But if I know you, I am sure things will turn around for you soon.
I am a bit surprised to hear about the overwhelming Falang / Thai girl ratio at Sugar. There were some farangs there when I was tehre in December, but it was mostly Thai with a lot of cute younger girls that liked hip hop. Maybe the ratio on the weekdays will be better? That's when I went.
Your experience with BBeat echoes mine form December. I was in and out of there pretty quickly and I found most of the girls to be 5 and under. But given Tomasb's excellent reports I am willing to give the place another try next time I am in town.
I have avoided the alcocart girls as I have heard they they are really there to cage for drinks. Your story seems to confirm these suspicions.
I think you should give Levels another try. I think you'll like it. Just leave your favorite Maui surfer hat at home. 555.
And since you are feeling adventurous, I'd give Mixx a try as well. It's interesting place with a very diverse crowd: African, CIS, Latin, and form all over Asia. The last time I was there I met a really cute Latin looking girl that ended up being Vietnamese. What a trip! She must have some American blood in her. I guess Mixx really lives up to its name. 555.
I did not take her as I had already gone all in on a very pretty and busty Chinese looking Thai girl (I am a total sucker for a girl wearing a cheongsam). I would have gone back to look for miss Latin Vietnam but it was my last night in BKK.
Mixx is definitely a place to be explored further.
Stay horny my friend and I look forward to your posts!
Uncle-V.
Yesterday went to Suckers in Nana somewhat by accident.
Firstly went to Mercury bar, to catch up with gogo girl Noi known for several years with super ass. Also to recheck on 2 or 3 good looking Coyotes, a tall slim one called Palm in particular. She can be barfined after midnight for 1500, but it is not clear to me yet if she is available for sex. Could be a case of how much she likes the customer. Yesterday did not get to talk to her that much as she was swamped by regular customers, even though she worked there just 4 weeks. Some Asian guy BFed her after midnight to go to a disco in RCA. I might have better luck getting to Palm on a quiet night, however then she is not guaranteed to show up. Fai and Naam are other pretty Coyotes at Mercury but I prefer Palm. As for the gogo girls there, only Noi interests me at all. Took her for Short time, always excellent.
On my way out I am about to head home when spot a pretty hostess sitting in front of Suckers, so decide to stop for a drink. She heads inside the curtain door of suckers, so I follow to tell her I will buy her a drink. Her name is Min. Seems someone inside spotted me. It is Oom, ex No. 91 from Crazy House. I had a drink outside with Min and Oom. Chemistry with Min did not exactly build in the circumstances.
Oom was one of my regular girls that disappeared about 4 weeks ago from Crazy House, and I did not have her phone number (now I do). She claimed the reason is that Suckers allow her to give the phone number. This is crazy since I do have contact for several other CH girls, so don't know why she would say that.
The reason she left CH, was fighting with other girls, and No. 34 in particular with 800 gm silicones on each side "melons". Oom had been overheard making adverse comments about the huge tits 2 or 3 times apparently, and that led to "boxing" on the 3rd floor (restaurant level).
Coming back to Suckers, the girls were only very high class to my taste. Oom was clearly the pick of them to my taste. No. 66 was slim with good body and reasonable face, so she would be 2nd. Perhaps pretty girls had been barfined and left much earlier of course. Quite a few really ugly girls and quite a few really ugly ladyboys as well. Some girls reasonable looking spoiled by silicones or nose jobs. E. g. 79 had good face but did not like the sillies. Some girls with a good body but face not good enough. One of the older female staff that looks after girls locker area etc. Came over, was drunk, and rather annoying. I don't like hasslers. Bar was quite busy, although it is Saturday night. A hens party arrived there wearing rabbit ears, and some of the rabbits were prettier than the gogo girls.
I guess I will be back to Suckers, but purely to see Oom, I guess. She is 21 tall with very light skin from Udon, lost weight recently so in good shape. Nice tits just A cup. Pretty face. She has been doing gogo for over 3 years so originally was an illegal when started at CH. Had a Thai boy originally but supposedly has ditched him quite some time ago and sleeps alone or with pet dog. Has managed to avoid getting pregnant so that is one good thing, so body is still girly with no babies. Likes strong sex. Maybe I am not quite strong enough. LOL
Most of gogo girls either have a Thai boy or at least did have one some time in the past. This is evident from all the single mothers in gogos. What percentage still have a Thai boy? It might be somewhat lower than 80% given the significant number of single mothers where Thai man shot through to some other girl. There are also girls that hate Thai men and only like Farangs, if we can believe it. There are also girls disappearing from gogos due to a pregnancy, mostly with Thai boys, I guess. I have met only the odd Thai girl that got pregnant and had a baby to a Farang customer. Not many though.
Hey Haven Old Buddy.
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Mixx is definitely a place to be explored further.
Stay horny my friend and I look forward to your posts!
Uncle-V.So, Uncle V as I mentioned before; I don't usually drink the Buddy kool aid, but when I do, I prefer a " Young Buddy ". Because me like a young Body too!
Ya, tonight is Mixx in your honor, my younger buddy!
Uncle Volodya
05-22-16, 09:27
So, Uncle V as I mentioned before; I don't usually drink the Buddy kool aid, but when I do, I prefer a " Young Buddy ". Because me like a young Body too!
Ya, tonight is Mixx in your honor, my younger buddy!Haven, you hansom man (is that better?) 555.
I really look forward to reading your report. I just hope it sis hopping on a Sunday night.
Have fun!
You. V.
At Mercury bar, I was sitting next to gorgeous (to my eye) Coyote Palm's customer. Turns out he was same age, same country of origin and very similar taste to mine in girls. He started yacking to me so much about old times (having been in Bangkok for 27 years), the former Thermae that stayed open much later than all the other bars, the Cowboy and Dollhouse (where Noi moved from), that my girl Noi asked if he wanted to barfine me LOL. Girls need to get proper attention from their customer, sometimes. LOL.
Got his number for future advice on taxation, pensions, Visas for Thailand, etc. He is a "Cowboy" man, like me, but also like me, goes to any place that has a special girl. In his case, he there for Palmy.
Apparently one guy who used to work at Dollhouse is serving 27 years for drug distribution. Former owner of Dollhouse took the accidental plunge from his high rise apartment to be splattered below, was possibly implicated as well. Known to be highly erratic and spaced out.
I was dismayed to see that the modern Thermae closes at 1AM. That was roughly the time the former Thermae (very close to Miami Hotel in Soi 13) used to get going 25 years ago, when girls would arrive from other bars and venues that still needed a customer. Vast majority of customers were Farangs back then and place was buzzing with high activity. So different now. Rather quiet and conservative with heaps of spare space, and girls mostly dressed very conservatively all lined up demurely waiting for customers to show some interest. If I can't see the body is good, then no interest unless girl is really stunning.
Went to some soi cowboy gogo. Ended up bar fining a coyote girl. She rambled on about a bunch of stuff I can only assume is total lies but she also said that she does not go with every customer but will go with me "you have bad body but you are good so I go with you I not go with you if you not good". I am not sure what kind of drugs would convince her to say something which make so little sense. Obviously I am a bad guy, because I go to bars, to molest young girls from 3rd world countries who are half my age. Anyway, as intended she seemed a lot more like a "real, western girl" which was my intention. Brought her back to my hotel and had awkward sex with her making pain faces and whinging all the way through. She also made a point that she hated the taste of my cock. I don't know why but I really got off on that and told her "good, then you suck some more". She sucked my cock for about 15 minutes and genuinely appeared to hate it though I suspect that was an act to make me feel guilty. For 9000 baht I feel no guilt for anything. Next we moved to missionary. She said "go slow" so I went fast. The condom fell off and now I am taking anti biotics. Once I saw that the condom was off I pulled it out and came all over her face. She made a cum hating face and I rubbed my cock over her mouth. Which was nice. Then we had a shower together and cuddled in bed and she said more insane shit. This was so great and refreshing for me because it was TRUE GF experience. A true GF experience is where you spend a fortune on a girl, then listen to her rant for hours on end and then have awkward, uncomfortable sex until you finally convince her to let you cum on her face then she acts like it is acid. She left at 3 am, instead of 6 am because and I quote " I need to do cocaine and party ". I was fine with it, I said that she can leave when she wants and money is on the table.
Total damage 3 k, bar fine, 5 k long time. Memories: priceless. I recommend to anyone to go to gogo bar. In my opinion the coyote are better than FKK girls but you cannot have sex with them and they don't do anal. At an FKK you have gorgeous girls who will let you do anything you want normally and none of this Bangkok bullshit but it is a bit more expensive. I can only last 3 days in thailand I am calling it quits and going home. I can understand why some people enjoy Thailand but I am not one of those people. Those tuk tuk drivers need to be kicked off the roads. I almost go myself in trouble because I said to the guy "take me to annies massage" I point to it on map he takes me to some fucking alley somwhere and says "here here you have nice massage". I am thinking what the fuck do you think I was born yesterday? You are obviously going to rob me. So I gave him 20 baht in change and walked off. I said to him "you took me to other side of fucking Bangkok". I cannot stand Bangkok, they drive me insane. Always lies, lies, lies always trying to steal your money. I have never been so paranoid about any place before. Bangkok is not good if you are like me and struggle with big cities. Germany is calm, organised, easy to get around and most things (apart from the RLD) are up front and honest. Bangkok is overly expensive compared to quality on offer. The girls are not that attractive and many are old. At annies the service is amazing. I sometimes like older ladies who are affectionate so I went to Annies. Also, be careful of freelance bar girls, they might be cute but I have heard that up to 40% of the have HIV. For me the cost of Thailand just does not justify the quality of the ladies and the lack of everything else. If coyote quality girls were willing to come and fuck for 9000 baht all night on a moments notice, then sure, then Bangkok is good but what they will do is take your 9000 baht and then try to not fuck you. The rest of the women are just not beautiful enough for my tastes. I like fresh young girls who are pretty and I just could not find the quality in Bangkok that I have come to expect.
Highly recommend the blowjob bar [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). While the girls are not all that pretty, they are young and they give you a no bullshit blowjob from start to finish for only 800 baht.
Old New Guy
05-22-16, 11:16
I can only last 3 days in thailand I am calling it quits and going home.I find this to be the highlight of your report, at least the one I've appreciated more. Don't slam the door on your ass.
Christian G
05-22-16, 11:54
In my opinion the coyote are better than FKK girls but you cannot have sex with them and they don't do anal. At an FKK you have gorgeous girls who will let you do anything you want normally and none of this Bangkok bullshit but it is a bit more expensive.Everybody here told you to avoid coyote girls and you can find a cute and pretty girl LT for 2/3/4000 baht LT. I honestly do not understand the sense to spend 9000 baht and then treat her like shit.
In Frankfurt FKK you can fuck girl in the ass for 150 euro for 30 minute only (160 euro in Artemis), in Thailand I can fuck girl in the ass for hours with only 30/50 euro especially in Pattaya. I go often in the FKK and other german venues for weekend but anal sex in FKK is overpriced.
Also, be careful of freelance bar girls, they might be cute but I have heard that up to 40% of the have HIV.Bullshit!
Those tuk tuk drivers need to be kicked off the roads. Everybody know that tuktuk are scam and you don't have to use them especially for reach massage shop or other sex venues. But probably is so difficult for you to jump on a BTS, come down at Nana Station and walk to Annies.
I can only last 3 days in thailand I am calling it quits and going home.Not totally surprising. Folks here tried to give you some advice but you never seemed to accept that Bangkok might not fit you pre-conceived notion of what it should be, ie full of "young girls from 3rd world countries" who will do anything for your money.
Respect goes a long way in Thailand. Your accounts with the ladies read borderline misogynistic. They are not sex robots, and can sense if a customer has a "warm heart" or not. Most times as with Thai culture they match kindness with kindness, and will likely turn you down flat or throw your money back in your face if you act like a jerk.
And FWIW I see you figured out a way to spend 8 k for what turned out to be a NWE (near wife experience) congrats on achieving that!
SL.
Uncle Volodya
05-22-16, 12:19
I find this to be the highlight of your report, at least the one I've appreciated more. Don't slam the door on your ass.BURN!
Nicely done ONG!
I nominate your report for the most inane of the year (and last year as well). You are truly a jerk off. 9000 baht? How does it feel to be played as a fool? Hopefully, you will find another website more suitable for your nonsense diatribes.
I am very sorry that you all do not like my report. I did not mean to upset anyone.
The coyote was good. Like a real girl. Worth 9000 baht only complaint was her personality.
I am very sorry that you all do not like my report. I did not mean to upset anyone.
The coyote was good. Like a real girl. Worth 9000 baht only complaint was her personality.I actually really enjoyed your report, MrManGuy. I was personally offended by just about everything in there, but it was very informative (see below), so thanks for sharing.
I think there are many reasons you are getting such blow back.
(1) You paid a lot of money (FAR more than you needed to), thereby ignoring the recommendations of those on this board. I'm not offended by this. It's your money, you have free will, and can exercise it as you please.
(2) You went after a Coyote girl, thereby ignoring the recommendations of those on this board. I'm not particularly offended by this. We all have our own preferences.
(3) You were pretty abusive to this girl, and you seemed to take pleasure in that abuse. I am offended by both your behavior and the glee with which you describe your actions.
(4) You spent the entire second paragraph trashing BKK. This is the BKK thread on ISG! Those of us on here LOVE BKK as a mongering city. We are the ones who know how superb this city is for smart, flexible, open-minded mongers. And your utterly negative views of the most mundane things in this city reveal a pretty sharp close-mindedness, and it gives newbies the wrong impression of this truly magnificent city (and its people). Moreover, your behavior gives everyone (mongers and local Thai people alike) a negative impression of us as farang mongers. So it's offensive.
Having said all that, I am glad you posted your report, since it does give us a glimpse into the world of over-priced coyote girl bar fining. I am now more convinced than ever that it is not worth pursuing a coyote girl. It has also renewed my belief that when I return to BKK in a couple of weeks, I am going to do my damndest to spread kindness instead of cruelty, since it will (obviously) be reciprocated in spades. I encourage you to do the same. Give BKK another chance, perhaps go down to Pattaya and try things down there (it's a smaller city, and it might be more to your liking). And if you do, I hope you post your reports here again, without fear of reprisal. I for one will be looking for your future reports.
The stunning Donut came back to Crazy house for two days. She never seems to take more than 5 minutes to hook a customer even on Sunday night when bar was rather empty later on.
I BFed before she got more than 2 metres inside the front door. LOL. Another girl was wishing she could get that sort of attention. With certaim girls you have to be extrenely quick or miss out.
Jane actually danced one set and was barfined promptly after that. She is hot too.
First time I saw either girl for about two weeks.
Show up when they need to and making money is a certainty for the top girls.
I actually really enjoyed your report, MrManGuy.
I was personally offended by just about everything It has also renewed my belief that when I return to BKK in a couple of weeks, I am going to do my damndest to spread kindness instead of cruelty, since it will (obviously) be reciprocated in spades. I encourage you to do the same. Give BKK another chance, perhaps go down to Pattaya and try things down there (it's a smaller city, and it might be more to your liking).It's a sad commentary on the complexity of the world we all live in, Kumbu.
Well, you will make up for it as you said. I plan to be back in Jan for a month and I hope to also spread kindness and happiness when I am back. IMO, the Thai people are pretty special with such a wonderful and humble culture. I am no expert like many of you here but if it's only about money and sex then IMO then one has missed the essence of life in general, and the heart and soul of Thai people, women and their culture.
Although, I had a better time in Pattaya than BKK, I met some wonderful human beings who work in the restaurant here at my hotel. And, two very kind and generous women in Pattaya. None in Pattaya or BKK were mistakes and I am glad to have spent some time with them. Now, I never agree to ST and the plan always is many days and nights, so YMMV. I eschew quantity and embrace the quality and totality of my experience with them.
Personally, I believe this guy has bad karma. And IMO, rightly so, unfortunately.
...I hope to also spread kindness and happiness when I am back. Of that, I am certain Haven123.
I've enjoyed your reports immensely. The non-stop dancing, the care-free attitude, despite the misses amongst the hits. What I especially enjoy about your reports is the unvarnished honesty. E. g. , you did not hold back in your dismay about BKK versus Pattaya, which is great. I hope you don't give up on BKK (others have said this already), since the richness and complexity of the city offers some really special surprises. It's a harder city (in many ways), but when you find that gem, it is that much more special.
Of that, I am certain Haven123.
I've enjoyed your reports immensely. The non-stop dancing, the care-free attitude, despite the misses amongst the hits. What I especially enjoy about your reports is the unvarnished honesty. E. g. , you did not hold back in your dismay about BKK versus Pattaya, which is great. I hope you don't give up on BKK (others have said this already), since the richness and complexity of the city offers some really special surprises. It's a harder city (in many ways), but when you find that gem, it is that much more special.Haha.
No I have not given up on BKK. There is no dismay. In fact just back from MIXX, and went straight to the breakfast buffet at my hotel where I enjoyed talking at length to one the girls who works there for quite some time. For the 3 RD straight day. Another one from Udon Thani! Married, 2 kids 5 and 3 ( back with mom) and husband is always doing construction work and she works 2 am to 2pm. I love the way she handles people . The grace and beauty in her interactions with the Japanese who can speak neither English nor Thai ( and this morning helping a Japanese guy on crutches with his seat and then going and getting the food for him so he does not have to.
So, I will surely spend a few nights in BKK again. It's just that for me (given my personality and nature), the pure tourism related culture in Pattaya (even though commercialized), and kind of the island feel because of the water, it seems to make people more laid back (no pun intended) ! And there are many such parallels (although each is relative to its own domain) in many countries around the world.
YMMV If you live here, but since I am just a visitor, my experience was better with the people I met in Pattaya, just talking and learning about them and trying to get a feel for them, their lives and life history.
I don't rush into things. I am super patient, and can wait for months until something right and with a kindred spirit comes along. Gogos for example, don't work for me. But, I don't get tied down either. I am a wanderer, an adventurer, looking for free spirits and trying to sip life vs. trying to gulp it down.
Went to some soi cowboy gogo. Ended up bar fining a coyote girl. She rambled on about a bunch of stuff I can only assume is total lies but she also said that she does not go with every customer but will go with me "you have bad body but you are good so I go with you I not go with you if you not good". I am not sure what kind of drugs would convince her to say something which make so little sense. Obviously I am a bad guy, because I go to bars, to molest young girls from 3rd world countries who are half my age. I personally don't have any great problem with you paying a 3 K barfine if that is what you want and the girl is really something super stunning. I have seen plenty of guys waiting till after midnight for the BF price reduction to 1500 (in the Mercury bar), and taking a fabulous Coyote away, even if they supposedly will not fuck "officially".
I don't know why you think the girl was on drugs. What she said is normal and makes perfect sense, even if not perfect English. Essentially, girls do not want to go with just any guy, overly full of himself and extra arrogant and causing her to stress out or be physically damaged. She doesn't care that the customer has a bad body. That is not important. She is prepared to spend time with a "nice" guy. Was she fooled? Are you basically a nice guy, or actually an asshole? Your writing style seems to show arrogance to me, and that is part of what others readers took a dislike to I guess (not just the money spent), but the real you could potentially be capable of being much nicer. Okay Sometimes the girl is fooling herself just a little, and the size of your wallet becomes more important than just being very nice to them.
Many girls I go with, claim to like old guys that are generous and "nice" to them in general. They do refuse plenty of customers that they take an aversion to. They claim money is not the only thing. They want a relatively stress free experience.
I only comment on the first part of your report as I did not read the whole lot and try to digest it.
Uncle Volodya
05-23-16, 09:31
Hey Haven, my young sexyman buddy! .
I am curious to hear about your impressions of Mixx.
Don't leave us in suspense. 555.
Have a great trip back home and happy returns to the LOS.
And stay horny my friend.
Uncle V.
Old New Guy
05-23-16, 11:11
Essentially, girls do not want to go with just any guy, overly full of himself and extra arrogant and causing her to stress out or be physically damaged. She doesn't care that the customer has a bad body. That is not important. She is prepared to spend time with a "nice" guy. Was she fooled? Are you basically a nice guy, or actually an asshole? Your writing style seems to show arrogance to me, and that is part of what others readers took a dislike to I guess (not just the money spent), but the real you could potentially be capable of being much nicer. Okay sometimes the girl is fooling herself just a little, and the size of your wallet becomes more important than just being very nice to them.
Many girls I go with, claim to like old guys that are generous and "nice" to them in general. They do refuse plenty of customers that they take an aversion to. They claim money is not the only thing. They want a relatively stress free experience.
I find that what you wrote is mostly true, but not all or at least not completely. Let me clarify that my Thai experience of many years and many hundreds of thousands baht is limited to disco free-lancers, as I never visit go-go's and much less talk to Coyotes there (although I've been to some Coyote clubs, of the type where Thai guys go), however I still think there is much common behavior between the two when it come to chose a customer, as I will explain later.
First of all, with top young FLs (and even not so top sometime), it's absolutely false that they will place a guy's attitude or money before age. The typical top FL will NOT give a guy past 40 yrs a chance to even come close (while of course the Coyote will be glad to extract a lady drink from pretty much anyone). This refusal is expressed in the usual ways, the first, of course, is never crossing looks. Be reassured they have seen you right away, the only time where a FL doesn't look much at men is when she has a customer already. The second, which happens if you insist looking or smiling to her, is resorting to a friend's help, they will quickly both glance at you pointing as needed (signal for you that a decision is coming), tell something to each other covering their mouths, then making bland faces or waving the hand a little to decline. Depending on the woman attitude and education it can be much worse than that, like disgusted faces, signs for you to move around etc. If she's alone she will put on a quick half-smile and start looking at her phone, or drink. All that within 10 seconds, she will not even know if you're drunk, smell bad, from which country etc. She made her decision already based on the guy age, and very distant second factor, looks. The other thing that they do when they want to be helpful is point to another friend, invariably the older, fatter or uglier one in the party. Now, for some it may be difficult to accept a refusal (come on, I came there with the best intention of the world, not having ever wronged any hooker, full of money, and this 100 dollars biatch turns me down? That is ridiculous!). But in fact it's the best news one could receive, as it's just saying "I'll spare you from wasting your money in a pitiful sexual experience". So I think one should appreciate that clear and honest message, my reaction however is not to smile or wai but just laugh it off and move on. I've seen men that are unable to accept this fact and usually it ends with a small scene, if you know what I mean.
That much for the 1st approach issue to a top / young FL, which of course isn't a problem with a beautiful Coyote, even if I've read that is not completely unusual to receive unfriendly treatment from them too. Now, of course you can convince or pay well enough a top Coyote, and even in some occasion a top / young FL, and from there we go to the 2nd part, which I think applies independently from your age or looks.
Then for the "good guy" and "I don't care if you old or ugly" part. That you will be treated good if you are "good" (a very subjective definition), is largely a cliche'. The more real fact is that for a normal Thai hooker a "good guy" is simply someone that in short pays well and makes her work quick and easy, which defined as no complain or issue with any of the following: Empty stupid talking. Pre-coital smoking. Separate showers with her lasting 20 minutes. Towel roll parade and immediate slipping between bedsheets. Turn on TV. No kissing. Short, hand-aided BJ. "jep jep" to avoid deep pumping. And of course, quickly going for panties after the 1st shot "Oh no I never do LT", phone calls "friend have no keys". "you tip me more for taxi na?" Now, these are common defects of even very plain looking Thai women, of course top girls are not different, actually they can get away with that even more easily.
Now, again on challenges that an older guy has in finding a decent partner, one would think, hey, there must be plenty of great looking older women to chose from! Especially considering that with Asian women is difficult to tell their age, and they age nicely (another cliche') well, is not so. There are many more hot or attractive young women available for sex than older ones of the same level. The reason is simple, the young ones are doing their best money in total freedom at the peak of their energies. But as they grow older they realize that working the disco or club every night is, after all, fatiguing. That the continuous drinking makes them fat. That changing men every night made them indifferent to sex and relationship. Some realize that in time, or just in time, marry or settle with a single provider or two in rotation, and are out of the main market. The ones that grasp to the nightlife are there for you to see them degrading night after night. Note I'm talking here about the top 5%, for all the others that aren't so lucky life is just what is and what they can make of it.
The result is that you see tons of older foreigners (and some young one too) towing women (or vice-versa) that I wouldn't do for free. Is it that bad? Yes at times it is and even before looking at the money side of it. But, if you work the large numbers, are good at screening, you may get lucky sometime. But don't stress that you have to be "good" all the time. Be yourself and more specifically be the yourself that you want to be in Thailand.
I have been lucky sometime, sometime it didn't lasted at all, sometime it did and went well beyond a paid relationship; doing this entertains myself, that's why I keep coming back and have no problem with anything of the above. These are part of the game, accept or stay home and jack-off.
Hey Haven, my young sexyman buddy! .
I am curious to hear about your impressions of Mixx.
Don't leave us in suspense. 555.
Have a great trip back home and happy returns to the LOS.
And stay horny my friend.
Uncle V.FANTASTIC!
Loved the decor, the ambiance, the hard wood floors, the DJ, the music. All of it. Very well dressed and very good eye candy. I had a great time enjoying the ambiance, the scenery, the music and stayed from about 12 until 5. A couple girls came to me early on, but I was just in my own dancing zone with some other farang men and women. One tall blond Russian girl or CIS would walk by me keep taking my hat off and play with it and put it back on my head! There were some girls I talked to towards the end but I didn't like the verbal interaction. Difficult to explain. They just came across as super pros to me. Very beautiful and very elegant and I think models 5 years ago, when they were in their 20's. Super heavy thick make up. 2-3 approached me...one with a great body, very slim and a good dancer...but for some reason ( dunno why) I just was not feeling it. I am pretty sure that I did not strike while the iron was hot and then it was too late....
One I liked very much and talked to for a few minutes was super nice, pretty and the kind I definitely love. Unfortunately, it was her first time there, she was with a girl friend, worked at the airport for Qatar airways. Not avail to anyone for take out.
On the way back as I got out of my taxi near my hotel and Soi Cowboy I came across another girl (with a much older woman) who was young and cute, my type, but she wanted only ST which I don't care for anyway (for 1500) . She said she worked at Soi Cowboy (I think Coyote she just looked totally Coyote) but when I asked she said she did not have her ID on her and she was in street clothes. Then right across from my hotel heard music and a shack of a place, appropriately named ' Love Shack ' that is a Karaoke bar frequented by young Thai guys. Many young girls (again it seems Soi Cowboy Coyote girls after work at Soi Cowboy). Went in and bought a drink and chatted an older lady / manager Thai dude. Found a really cute girl I liked (another Coyote I think from Chiang Mai) and she wanted 2500ST and said she goes for between 4-5 K for LT. Declined my offer of 3k LT at 545 am! Went and hit the fantastic buffet at my hotel that starts at 6 and went to bed. Just so you know why I passed. I was pretty wasted with alcohol by then and decided to pass and just go to bed as plan was to go to Wat Po early PM (which I did after nearly 16 years!) and hired a great guide there for myself.
Thus ended by BKK escapade. No regrets ...no worries ...all good. I should have hit MiXX 2 nights earlier...totally my kind of place. Error on my part...my bad. But, now I know where to go...thanks to you. MIXX is hot, MIXX rocks and MiXX is a keeper for the future. :-)
Uncle Volodya
05-23-16, 11:59
FANTASTIC!
. I should have hit MiXX 2 nights earlier...totally my kind of place. Error on my part...my bad. But, now I know where to go...thanks to you. MIXX is hot, MIXX rocks and MiXX is a keeper for the future. :-)I am so happy you had fun at Mixx. I was a little worried that it may be a little too pro for your tastes, so I pushed Sugar over it initially. But I guess there are enough girls there that are less hardened.
And it was a Sunday night. Which is usually the slowest of the week for most clubs. So I think it may be even better on other nights.
Unlike Ibar (the world champion 555! , it may be better to be more proactive about finding a girl for the night in the 1 AM to 3 AM zone.
Great tip on the Karaoke place. Looks like a good place to score FLs after hours. Those prices they quoted were pretty good if the girls really were Coyotes. I will be looking for it next time I am in BKK and up at that hour.
I'll miss your daily reports and observation, my friend.
Godspeed and happy trials!
You. V.
I find that what you wrote is mostly true, but not all or at least not completely. Let me clarify that my Thai experience of many years and many hundreds of thousands baht is only related to disco free-lancers, as I never visit go-go's and much less talk to Coyotes there (although I've been to some Coyote clubs, of the type where Thai guys go), however I still think there is much common behavior between the two when it come to chose a customer, as I will explain later.
Your views on freelancers at those venues are noted, and may be accurate. I cannot argue without experience.
I think its a bit like chalk and cheese. I am experienced mainly with hookers at gogos and the glorified ones, so called "Coyotes" but not really like Coyotes at the Thai clubs at all. Most are crappy dancers for example.
Sure some girls are looking for hot young handsome man. I did get knocked back by a girl on occasion preferring a young man, or sometimes preferring a Japanese. Sometimes the knock back could be purely that they have a regular customer possibly available. They aren't going to give the exact reasons.
And my early years at Thermae, the freelancers were sometimes very picky about the guy. They would not take just anyone. Perhaps they wanted money and some fun. Some girls were refusing plenty of guys and even leaving at closing time without a guy. I felt good because I was not getting the knockbacks. I was aged 35 at that time, but average looking I guess.
However I do see plenty of gogo girls liking very old fat guys that look far worse than me. I do see so called gogo club Coyotes very happy to go with an old guy of 60, if the guy is nice, accommodating and providing the money. She may not want to fuck him. That is another issue. One of the Coyotes at Mercury (an exceptional dancer against the trend) Noo Naa (also called Anna) fucked me okay She was a sex bomb and seemed to love fucking and had a lot of stamina. A somewhat crazy type of girl but very cute. Rumoured to have a Tomboy girlfriend but still loves fucking dick.
I think it is two totally different scenes, most likely.
I recognise my experience in bars is greatly biased by the fact that girls that don't want my type will obviously avoid me. Occasionally I have been hot for a girl but she is not interested at all. It happens rarely though. It's usually the other way round even though I am old and not so handsome. Coyotes are different. They come to me largely for drinks. Doesn't mean they want to fuck me. I have only ever fucked 2 or three "Coyotes" so the experience is very limited.
However lets just say that sure, that a lot of gogo girls are into older nice guys, not too stingy. It's the best way for them to make money not too stressed, and some old guys can fuck just fine, whether the girl is horny or not at all. Sometimes they don't care if the old guys can perform well or not, quite obviously.
In the end, the girl's statement that she wanted a good guy, and bad body was acceptable, does make sense, even if she deludes herself slightly about her money motives.
I get to go with a very hot bargirl Donut several times, prettier than most Cowboy Coyotes. Barfine in the normal range so no need for more expensive Coyote. She can have any guy she wants in the bar except for those requiring big tits, just about. She is happy to take me and even seems to enjoy the sex or is extremely good actress. She does say she likes sex. She is much preferring a "nice" guy, sometimes with a bad body. She was very happy with a fat middle aged guy, who was a doctor, that has 3 kids but whose wife was deceased, she told me. Very nice guys are appreciated. Her primary objective is not to search for young arrogant hunks. She has to make money to finance her Uni degree and also younger sister's school fees.
I have been to some discos like Insomnia, Bed Supper Club, Spicy (a horrible club), Shock something (even more horrible), have been to Bangkok Beat, etc., Nana Hotel disco, the one under Ambassador long ago. I probably need to try more up market clubs, since those I did not find that many girls that would have really interested me. Bangkok Beat talent was nothing special, didn't see any great bodies there. The disco under Ambassador was the only one I could say I had a really good time, the music no doubt better suited to my age. Too many years ago, now.
Maybe some girls were above average for pretty face. I generally do not like the music at the discos. It is not the songs of yesteryear. It's just noise and thumping. I am going to try some latin music venues, better suited to my age.
I am more a daytime or early evening monger. I rarely fuck after midnight.
Old New Guy
05-23-16, 12:13
I think it is two totally different scenes, most likely.I agree. The good thing is that one could play both games well, being smart and properly "mannered" is a global asset. Thanks for your insight!
TurnipShoe
05-23-16, 12:17
Finally convinced the missus for a two day stop over in Bangkok for shopping before heading over to Samui.
Might have managed to convince her for a menage-e-trois with a lady also one night. Any leads or pointers to get things right and not mess up this opportunity.
Where to find pretty girls who'd be into couples and give us a great experience?
Cheers and thanks in advance.
I find that what you wrote is mostly true, but not all or at least not completely. Let me clarify that my Thai experience of many years and many hundreds of thousands baht is limited to disco free-lancers, as I never visit go-go's and much less talk to Coyotes there (although I've been to some Coyote clubs, of the type where Thai guys go), however I still think there is much common behavior between the two when it come to chose a customer, as I will explain later.
First of all, with top young FLs (and even not so top sometime), it's absolutely false that they will place a guy's attitude or money before age. The typical top FL will NOT give a guy past 40 yrs a chance to even come close (while of course the Coyote will be glad to extract a lady drink from pretty much anyone). This refusal is expressed in the usual ways, the first, of course, is never crossing looks. Be reassured they have seen you right away, the only time where a FL doesn't look much at men is when she has a customer already. The second, which happens if you insist looking or smiling to her, is resorting to a friend's help, they will quickly both glance at you pointing as needed (signal for you that a decision is coming), tell something to each other covering their mouths, then making bland faces or waving the hand a little to decline. Depending on the woman attitude and education it can be much worse than that, like disgusted faces, signs for you to move around etc. If she's alone she will put on a quick half-smile and start looking at her phone, or drink. All that within 10 seconds, she will not even know if you're drunk, smell bad, from which country etc. She made her decision already based on the guy age, and very distant second factor, looks. The other thing that they do when they want to be helpful is point to another friend, invariably the older, fatter or uglier one in the party. Now, for some it may be difficult to accept a refusal (come on, I came there with the best intention of the world, not having ever wronged any hooker, full of money, and this 100 dollars biatch turns me down? That is ridiculous!). But in fact it's the best news one could receive, as it's just saying "I'll spare you from wasting your money in a pitiful sexual experience". So I think one should appreciate that clear and honest message, my reaction however is not to smile or wai but just laugh it off and move on. I've seen men that are unable to accept this fact and usually it ends with a small scene, if you know what I mean.
That much for the 1st approach issue to a top / young FL, which of course isn't a problem with a beautiful Coyote, even if I've read that is not completely unusual to receive unfriendly treatment from them too. Now, of course you can convince or pay well enough a top Coyote, and even in some occasion a top / young FL, and from there we go to the 2nd part, which I think applies independently from your age or looks.
Then for the "good guy" and "I don't care if you old or ugly" part. That you will be treated good if you are "good" (a very subjective definition), is largely a cliche'. The more real fact is that for a normal Thai hooker a "good guy" is simply someone that in short pays well and makes her work quick and easy, which defined as no complain or issue with any of the following: Empty stupid talking. Pre-coital smoking. Separate showers with her lasting 20 minutes. Towel roll parade and immediate slipping between bedsheets. Turn on TV. No kissing. Short, hand-aided BJ. "jep jep" to avoid deep pumping. And of course, quickly going for panties after the 1st shot "Oh no I never do LT", phone calls "friend have no keys". "you tip me more for taxi na?" Now, these are common defects of even very plain looking Thai women, of course top girls are not different, actually they can get away with that even more easily.
Now, again on challenges that an older guy has in finding a decent partner, one would think, hey, there must be plenty of great looking older women to chose from! Especially considering that with Asian women is difficult to tell their age, and they age nicely (another cliche') well, is not so. There are many more hot or attractive young women available for sex than older ones of the same level. The reason is simple, the young ones are doing their best money in total freedom at the peak of their energies. But as they grow older they realize that working the disco or club every night is, after all, fatiguing. That the continuous drinking makes them fat. That changing men every night made them indifferent to sex and relationship. Some realize that in time, or just in time, marry or settle with a single provider or two in rotation, and are out of the main market. The ones that grasp to the nightlife are there for you to see them degrading night after night. Note I'm talking here about the top 5%, for all the others that aren't so lucky life is just what is and what they can make of it.
The result is that you see tons of older foreigners (and some young one too) towing women (or vice-versa) that I wouldn't do for free. Is it that bad? Yes at times it is and even before looking at the money side of it. But, if you work the large numbers, are good at screening, you may get lucky sometime. But don't stress that you have to be "good" all the time. Be yourself and more specifically be the yourself that you want to be in Thailand.
I have been lucky sometime, sometime it didn't lasted at all, sometime it did and went well beyond a paid relationship; doing this entertains myself, that's why I keep coming back and have no problem with anything of the above. These are part of the game, accept or stay home and jack-off.Very accurate description of what the BKK FL scene has turned into. Yes, that is what it is now, but that was not the way it was when I moved here in 99. Far from it. One of the reasons Thailand was my choice was seeing the older 60 year old dudes with some of the hottest gals. And yes, that was true, even in the discos. In fact, many of the better looking FLs would flock to the older guys as they had the most money to spend, being most were on fat expat packages or were retired with some money to spend. That all changed as the economy improved and there were more younger guys traveling. In 99 at 35 years old I was among the youngest dudes in the bars of the discos. Now the population of young urban douchebags has exploded in Bangkok, and has effected the FL P4 P scene greatly. In my mind making it far less desirable, especially for a 50 year old like myself.
I do disagree with your point on the age of FLs. I think the overall age has increased in the discos. A lot of 30 and early 40 something gals who think they are still just as hot at their age as they were at 25. I see a lot of younger dudes with the early 30's set. Amazing because I knew some of them when they were in their early 20's so they are not interesting to me. But the new guys on the block seem to have lower standards overall. I do see them with gals I would not touch with a ten foot pole.
Old New Guy
05-23-16, 12:35
I think the overall age has increased in the discos. A lot of 30 and early 40 something gals who think they are still just as hot at their age as they were at 25.Absolutely! I was saying, at least here in Pattaya it's rare to see a late 30's early 40 gal which is objectively hot, only that. Of plain and straight ugly ones there is an industrial amount.
But the new guys on the block seem to have lower standards overall. I do see them with gals I would not touch with a ten foot pole.
So true. Some justice served, hahaha!
But the new guys on the block seem to have lower standards overall. I do see them with gals I would not touch with a ten foot pole.I amazed by standards of bar customers too. They with let the ugliest girls with bad bodies sit on their lap. If a girl cats raunchy, suddenly she is considered hot, no matter how awful she looks to me.
Really young girls can look well below average as well. I am not blaming age. I know some 35 year olds that still look great, with and without babies. Unfortunate some girls are totally wrecked from child birth.
Mr Enternational
05-23-16, 14:14
Your views on freelancers at those venues are noted, and may be accurate. I cannot argue without experience.
Sure some girls are looking for hot young handsome man. I did get knocked back by a girl on occasion preferring a young man, or sometimes preferring a Japanese. Sometimes the knock back could be purely that they have a regular customer possibly available. They aren't going to give the exact reasons.
And my early years at Thermae, the freelancers were sometimes very picky about the guy. They would not take just anyone. Perhaps they wanted money and some fun. Some girls were refusing plenty of guys and even leaving at closing time without a guy. I felt good because I was not getting the knockbacks. In March I had my mind set on a FL disco chick. We exchanged information. She was supposed to come over the next day but did not answer my messages. The next time that I saw her in the club she said that we would leave at 4:30. I waited and waited til the wee hours, and turns out she bullshitted me around. But she would always send me a message at 7 am saying she went home alone. I never saw her with any guys. Had me wondering if she was FL afterall.
Well since I left Thailand we would talk on Line sometimes. She told me that when I got back she would meet me at my room. This time true to her word, within 15 minutes of me getting to my place Saturday night she was there. She helped me clean and set my room up. And to top that off, she gave me one of the best sessions ever. She was happy for the 1200 baht the next day when I dropped her off. Now she will undoubtedly come whenever I call, but what her deal was a couple months ago I will never know.
Crocodilexp
05-23-16, 16:34
The next time that I saw her in the club she said that we would leave at 4:30. I waited and waited til the wee hours, and turns out she bullshitted me around. But she would always send me a message at 7 am saying she went home alone. I never saw her with any guys.With all due respect, I think she was jerking you around precisely because she sensed that you would allow it. These girls have a very keen sense guys are soft, their livelihood literally depends on it. Sometimes, they just jerk us around for an ego boost, just like women often do in the west.
If you're paying for it, you should be the one setting the terms, but that's easy to say and occasionally (when bedazzled by a girl) more difficult to do.
Old New Guy
05-23-16, 16:56
With all due respect, I think she was jerking you around precisely because she sensed that you would allow it. These girls have a very keen sense guys are soft, their livelihood literally depends on it. Sometimes, they just jerk us around for an ego boost, just like women often do in the west.
If you're paying for it, you should be the one setting the terms, but that's easy to say and occasionally (when bedazzled by a girl) more difficult to do.I think you haven't read much of the Pattaya forum to not know about Mr. E. attitude to Thai ladies (laugh). Not sure what it takes to bedazzle or give him the run-around but skin-contact drugs come to mind. So, your predicament may be right, but the recipient is wrong.
Crocodilexp
05-23-16, 18:19
Very accurate description of what the BKK FL scene has turned into. Yes, that is what it is now, but that was not the way it was when I moved here in 99. Far from it. One of the reasons Thailand was my choice was seeing the older 60 year old dudes with some of the hottest gals. And yes, that was true, even in the discos. In fact, many of the better looking FLs would flock to the older guys as they had the most money to spend, being most were on fat expat packages or were retired with some money to spend. That all changed as the economy improved and there were more younger guys traveling. In 99 at 35 years old I was among the youngest dudes in the bars of the discos. Now the population of young urban douchebags has exploded in Bangkok, and has effected the FL P4 P scene greatly. In my mind making it far less desirable, especially for a 50 year old like myself.
Goatscrot hits all the right points. I remember coming to Bangkok in my late 20's and thinking there's no major advantage to being a young Farang in terms of girls. It was common to see so many couples with the old and decrepit Farang guy and a hot (or at least reasonably fresh looking) Thai woman in her 20's. It was a heart-warming sight and I thought I could surely count on being that guy in my 60's.
Unfortunately, times have changed, most reasonable looking FLs these days are those who worked the scene 10 years ago and didn't quit in time. Needless to say, their looks didn't improve, but worse yet, the price went up and attitude down. The scene is still limping on, but I shudder to think what it'll be like in 2025 if current trends continue.
Uncle Volodya
05-23-16, 18:39
In March I had my mind set on a FL disco chick. We exchanged information. She was supposed to come over the next day but did not answer my messages. The next time that I saw her in the club she said that we would leave at 4:30. I waited and waited til the wee hours, and turns out she bullshitted me around. But she would always send me a message at 7 am saying she went home alone. I never saw her with any guys. Had me wondering if she was FL afterall.
Well since I left Thailand we would talk on Line sometimes. She told me that when I got back she would meet me at my room. This time true to her word, within 15 minutes of me getting to my place Saturday night she was there. She helped me clean and set my room up. And to top that off, she gave me one of the best sessions ever. She was happy for the 1200 baht the next day when I dropped her off. Now she will undoubtedly come whenever I call, but what her deal was a couple months ago I will never know.Great report Mr E!
I am glad you got your girl.
Patience, persistence and smarts are rewarded in the end. We can all (especially yours truly) learn from this.
The guy who said she had you "wrapped around her finger" does not know who the hell he is talking to. 555.
These are part of the game, accept or stay home and jack-off.Words to live by. It is a game after all, don't take it seriously, enjoy it for what its worth. You repeat with a girl a few times and she points out that her necklace is broken or points to her finger and asks for a gold ring or starts complaining that your fucking her too much, time to change rides is all.
Yesterday was in 3 bars in Nana Plaza. Billboard was checked again as advised to by another poster a few weeks back.
First up Suckers, just to visit Oom, ex No. 91 from Crazy House. My assessment is this is a really shit bar, including many ladyboys and many silicone jobs, and a few nose jobs. Oom was best girl easily. Very small number 54 had good body but face not quite pretty enough. Girls are often too lazy to dance.
Very late went to Mercury. Got a chance to chat to super pretty Coyote Palm before closing time. She is very special looking. She showed me her picks of a fashion show doing some runway modelling. Always in high demand by the customers. For gogo girls, Noi has great body and one or two others are acceptable, but mostly fatties. Other Coyotes Naam and Faai also look good. Music is good at Mercury. That helps to have fun.
Arrived Billboard about midnight. I was surprised. Billboard had been a pretty dead bar last time visited possibly as much as 2 years ago. Now was pretty vibrant. Circulating stage with a lot of Coyotes and just a few Gogo girls. Quite a number of customers but certainly not packed out. Some customers dancing a bit having a good time. Also the "Ap Naam" soapy bathing area, with maybe 10 girls in the suds topless. Some of those girls have very nice tits (I only saw one bad silicone job). Maybe two or three have faces moderately pretty. I feel sorry for these "soapy" girls. They seem to have to stay there for very long times, unless some guy calls them out. I did not see any actually get called out of there. May have happened earlier.
For the Coyotes and gogos section, I thought several girls had really great bodies (without being able to check the covered tits properly). As for face beauty, that was much tougher to find, due to rather dim lighting in the place. Most girls with the stunning body did not have the stunning face as well. Overall standard for prettiness was a bit weak. Really pretty Coyotes should still be there at midnight, given barfines are higher (I assume). Pretty gogo girls would have been BFed already by midnight and same goes for the soap suds girls. I really need to come back and assess the line up at 9 PM on a Friday or Saturday. However overall impression was that this may well be the best bar in Nana Plaza, without having checked all the others very recently. Its a time since visited Angel Witch and Spankies and all the Rainbows. I can say it was most appealing bar I have seen in Nana. I did not like Bangkok Bunnies, nor Suckers, and Mandarin bars recently were really dreary.
I did not find the really pretty girl at Billboard, but you have to be damn lucky after midnight. Also I was not hanging out at the young girl soap suds area. I probably would not get one of the pretty ones at Crazy House either at that time. However Billboard is worth followup and has possibilities. I could take a stunning body and compromise on the face.
Overall Billboard had very few fatties, if any, only noticed one bad silicone job, probably not so many nose jobs (hard to tell in dim lighting), no ladyboys (I guess). Some staff there known from Crazy House. The fat cheating mamasan that was fired from Crazy House, was probably also fired from Mercury due to money issues, and now is at Billboard unfortunately. I would need to stay well clear of her. Another gay man type mamasan at Billboard came from CH. He (dark skin and chubby) is quite acceptable to me (no problems with him at CH). The odd gogo girl I also recognised as ex CH.
The Billboard Coyotes are not as pretty as the best Coyotes at Mercury. Coyotes can't dance like proper Coyotes anyway, for the most part. Was one exception previously at Mercury but she moved on now. So when we say Nana Plaza (and Cowboy) has Coyotes, we generally mean girls dressed in Coyote like outfits, being the multi layer hard or padded bra, and the cutoff short shorts. There are hardly any that can dance Coyote style, and many are too lazy to, as well.
I am a bored by Crazy House now, except days when my special girls are there. I can get bored by any of these bars if there is no special girl to pull me there. The bar itself matters very little, unless music is really bad or staff are really irritating.
Uncle Volodya
05-24-16, 07:55
So when we say Nana Plaza (and Cowboy) has Coyotes, we generally mean girls dressed in Coyote like outfits, being the multi layer hard or padded bra, and the cutoff short shorts. There are hardly any that can dance Coyote style, and many are too lazy to, as well.Nice report (as usual)! Very informative, thansk for posting.
The Coyote thing is such a crock! Ruining the gogo scene. And I hate the god damn movie that inspired. Fucking feminist propaganda in disguise.
I am always curious about Rainbow as they have a good track record for lookers. But the girls there can be unenthusiastic. But, as far as I remember, at least they don't use Coyotes. I hope this hasn't changed. It's been over a year since I last checked the place.
I am coming close to the conclusion of my stay this year in Bangkok. Still the great experiences continue. As frequent readers know, I am a aficionado of Bangkok Beat. It is certainly not for everybody particularly for tourists looking for that special young hottie. On many occasions, I leave the bar solo as I can' t find anything of interest but since I live here my philosophy has become there is always tomorrow. Tourists and short timers don't have this luxury, especially at a place as spotty as this. I just happen to like it as some guys only like go go clubs or massage joints.
One thing I know is if you do see someone who fits your qualifications, best option is to move quick. I had been moving around the bar avoiding certain predatory girls and found myself in a relatively empty area on the upper landing facing the band. I had strategically placed myself there because I saw a cute five foot nothing, and probably 95 pound girl dancing by herself. Also, she was a new face and body to me, which is another profile I look for when coming here. We did the obligatory bottle toasting and was dancing with her in no time. She said that she had been here before but it has been awhile as she is housekeeping for a rich Thai family in Bangkok and too busy to go out. So, already, I knew she was a semi-pro or even non-pro. She also professed to being drunk and did not want to drink further.
After a bit of dancing and without further ado, I suggested leaving for my apartment and she promptly agreed so would estimate this entire chain of events took under a half hour. We quickly made it over to my apartment and she stripped off her blouse immediately upon entering the living room focusing my attention on a very nice set of breasts behind a pretty blue bra. Someone suggested a shower as we headed to the bedroom but the showers would have to wait as I immediately kissed her deeply and she responded equally. Stripping off her translucent panties, she turned around and offered herself doggie and a beautiful firm little rounded ass but not before I pushed her on her back to face me and dined at the why and made sure she came, which she told me later was one of two orgasms for our first encounter. After we finished, she went out to the living room and rearranged and folded my discarded clothes. Pretty funny.
We went to sleep but she awoke at dawn wanting more, which I readily obliged. Then another nap, followed by a third offering where she jacked me off as I had run out of condoms. I finally did a friction fuck with her sliding my cock on her clit until she came again.
She left at 11 am and I slipped her 1800 baht. No price had been discussed beforehand. She texted me later thanking me for a good time. She told me that she lived in a small apartment for 5 k Baht per month so I made a modest contribution to her rent expense.
Bangkok has just been amazing for me this year. So many great girls, I don't where to begin and end on who might be my favorite. Really, only one or two at most bad experiences. There is simply no place like it.
I am coming close to the conclusion of my stay this year in Bangkok. Still the great experiences continue. Aaaw, say it ain't so? I for one will miss your thoroughly entertaining and informative reports. I consider myself a Bangkok aficionado, though I have not been there for a while, and never having been to Bangkok Beats, your reports have convinced me to give it a shot. I know not to expect heaven the first time I go, but thanks for your diligent reporting on this venue, and on other venues as well.
Bangkok has just been amazing for me this year. . . There is simply no place like it.Well said.
Uncle Volodya
05-24-16, 08:46
I am coming close to the conclusion of my stay this year in Bangkok. Still the great experiences continue..Thanks again for your great posts Tomasb. It's been a great experience to read them.
You are the Baron of Bangkok Beat! Your reports (especially this latest one about the housekeeper girl) make me want to go back and check it out, even though my first experience there was not all that good.
I also need a sexy girl to tidy my room post coitus. 55.
Happy trails and stay horny during your journeys.
Uncle-V.
I am coming close to the conclusion of my stay this year in Bangkok. Still the great experiences continue. As frequent readers know, I am a aficionado of Bangkok Beat. It is certainly not for everybody particularly for tourists looking for that special young hottie. Even I live here part time, I still look for a hottie or "stunner". Saw a really great looker on street outside Nana Hotel last night. Face and body both excellent (and not a LB). A freak occurrence. Probably would have taken her if I did not have other plans.
I guess the attraction to BB must be spending less money on freelancers right? I have been there more than once. I did not like the band that much. Too loud as to make conversation with girls very difficult, and sound quality was pretty poor. The total number of girls above average looks was fairly low and sprinkled with LBs as well. Most girls not slim enough to my taste. Some of us like to have a much larger set of girls to choose from. I take your point about quickly checking it out and moving on if not much talent. That applies to any venue, of course. We are creatures of habit, where we keep coming back to places that have had reasonable success rates, or in my case, keep returning to certain particular girls that really do it for me.
Perhaps I have showed up to BB a bit too late to see the "cream".
In six weeks, I only tried about 5 new girls. Only one of them did I fuck, the first time meeting her (at MP). Three were great (definite repeats) and two would not repeat, and only one of those was poor (the black girl). So I am not at all impulsive and clearly take a long time to decide. This style would contribute to a place like BB not suiting me that much.
I prefer to make a large collection of superior regular girls that I just keep recycling. Have many of them as Contacts on LINE App, to help avoid wasted time.
Yes. I generally agree with most of the observations made by other posters that BB has a lot of lower quality on offer especially when compared to a go-go or other more upscale discos. I just happen to do well because I am patient and can accept leaving empty handed some evenings. Also, I have developed a strategy when I am there in terms of identifying new prospects. For example, since I go regularly, I already know who the regulars are and generally try to give them wide berth though I did make an exception for a girl last week who rewarded me with a memorable 3 some. That being said, last Saturday there were no fewer than 4 women I have taken out over the last two years within ten meters of each other so perhaps it's good that I am leaving BKK at the end of May.
I did have a conversation with the manager there recently who told me they no longer allow LB's in there except for one or two who are well behaved and known to the crew. Apparently, the regular girls already hard pressed by the overwhelming numbers of girls objected to the additional competitive presence of LB's.
It's not necessarily cheaper as the girls start out sometimes with the same obscene price points as other locales but in the end they do seem more willing to negotiate. I also notice that it's busy there between a little before midnight and starts to slow down around 1:15 am.
Anyway, before I leave BKK, I thought that I would try Mixx and Spasso's and perhaps Kuteda to draw a more apt comparison. However, at most of these BKK discos, I find that the FL's can be s pick picky themselves and are looking for younger guys. They only lower (or increase) their age standard as the hours get later.
Uncle Volodya
05-24-16, 11:45
I also notice that it's busy there between a little before midnight and starts to slow down around 1:15 am.
Good to know. Maybe the best way to play it is to swing by BB for a look around midnight and then if you don't find anything head out to the other clubs.
This isi kind of the same way I treat Red Car in Pattaya.
Yes. I generally agree with most of the observations made by other posters that BB has a lot of lower quality on offer especially when compared to a go-go or other more upscale discos. I just happen to do well because I am patient and can accept leaving empty handed some evenings. Also, I have developed a strategy when I am there in terms of identifying new prospects. For example, since I go regularly, I already know who the regulars are and generally try to give them wide berth though I did make an exception for a girl last week who rewarded me with a memorable 3 some. That being said, last Saturday there were no fewer than 4 women I have taken out over the last two years within ten meters of each other so perhaps it's good that I am leaving BKK at the end of May.
For a guy who collects regular girls, this is a bit perplexing. Are you saying that generally the regular girls are not worth doing and only the fresh girls are worth a try? Or is it that you just get bored by girls so quickly, and want to keep adding new "notches". I prefer to gamble less with new girls.
At venues I am well known, I am also known to be butterfly, but also to have a good heart and willing to keep seeing the best girls. Don't you get a worse reputation by always changing girls?
Yes, it is perplexing even at times for me. I am a butterfly, no doubt, and quick to admit that if the subject comes up with a girl.
What I am trying to say is that there is a definite regular contingent of girls in there every night. Most of these girls I have not tried, the few that I have are either average performers or in two cases stretching back over two years, terrible. However, one of the regular girls, who I always considered quite cute, enticed me into a thrilling threesome with her pal last week. So I learned it's not always a good idea to avoid all the regular girls out of concern of bad service as sometimes they can surprise you.
However, this girl had been somewhat reticent with me because a girl I had seen a few times in early January saw me in BB one night later in January talking and dancing with this girl and came over, grabbed the girl by the arm, gave her a rash of crap about me, told her to stay away, (I guess that I am so bad, she only wants me for herself), and finished off this debacle by striking me in the temple. It should be noted that The girl who hit me had previously told me she has an out of town Norwegian BF who bought her a condo and car, according to her, so to say I was surprised at her jealous behavior was an understatement. In short, lots of drama and competition in there.
This particular girl from the 3 some can't exactly accuse me of butterfly behavior either. Last Saturday, I went to BB kind of hoping for a repeat with her and / or her and the friend. I found her almost immediately sitting with a buddy of mine who has known her for a few years. When I mentioned to my friend the prior week what a good time I had with her, it must have triggered his sexual neurons to repeat with her as well, as I could tell the moment I walked in that this particular girl was a hopeless cause for that night. She left with him eventually. But as a friend in BKK once told me 'You never lose the girl, only your turn. '.
Yes, I am always looking for fresh girls and fresh experiences as there is nothing like the thrill of the first time with somebody. By its very nature, you can't repeat it. But let's face it, none of them are exactly sitting around waiting for me (or us) to show up. And there has been a few I have taken three times or so though that seems to be the max for me. More than that and they think you are their BF.
I do treat the girls well that I take out. Obviously, since I am in there all the time, I don't want to burn any bridges though sometimes it can't be helped as my story about the jealous girl demonstrates. As for the girls I don't take out, there is usually a pretty good reason. This is a problematic area. You know how it is -- if you smile at them they want you to buy them a drink and are upset if you decline or worse tell them you are not interested in taking them out, which makes them angry. But I think by now that I have enough good reports to sustain me. When I return next winter, I suspect there will be some turnover too so I can start anew.
For a guy who collects regular girls, this is a bit perplexing. Are you saying that generally the regular girls are not worth doing and only the fresh girls are worth a try? Or is it that you just get bored by girls so quickly, and want to keep adding new "notches". I prefer to gamble less with new girls.
At venues I am well known, I am also known to be butterfly, but also to have a good heart and willing to keep seeing the best girls. Don't you get a worse reputation by always changing girls?
If I could clarify a comment I made in the prior two reports: last Saturday, there were 4 girls in there who I had taken out before perhaps belying my comments about avoiding the regular girls. Of this amount, 2 had provided average or subpar experiences and were a one-off for me -- Regular attendees. The third girl, also a regular, was from my fun 3 some from the prior week, and the 4th was a freshie from a few weeks ago who prob only goes in there on a semi regular basis.
Overall, I think that I haven taken out 10 or so girls from BB this winter. Fortunately, they are not all in there every night. At least one is in Chiang Mai but still that number is large enough that's it a good thing I am leaving soon.
Uncle Volodya
05-24-16, 13:13
If I could clarify a comment I made in the prior two reports: last Saturday, there were 4 girls in there who I had taken out before perhaps belying my comments about avoiding the regular girls. Of this amount, 2 had provided average or subpar experiences and were a one-off for me -- Regular attendees. The third girl, also a regular, was from my fun 3 some from the prior week, and the 4th was a freshie from a few weeks ago who prob only goes in there on a semi regular basis.
Overall, I think that I haven taken out 10 or so girls from BB this winter. Fortunately, they are not all in there every night. At least one is in Chiang Mai but still that number is large enough that's it a good thing I am leaving soon.Get out of dodge before the BB lynch mob gathers in front of your condo with torches and pitchforks!! 555.
Captain America
05-25-16, 05:28
Guys, will be on a long layover (10 hours) next week and think I should try one of the famous BJ bars. Don't want to get lost chasing bad establishments, so can you gentlemen refer me to a couple of good ones?
Guys, will be on a long layover (10 hours) next week and think I should try one of the famous BJ bars. Don't want to get lost chasing bad establishments, so can you gentlemen refer me to a couple of good ones?You do not specify the exact time of your 10 HR visit but I would go to Som's Haven which is really close to Terminal 21 mall. Always had good service there and all the girls generally look decent. Of course when you go to a BJ bar, you are not really going there to look for a girl with looks.
It's my routine to hit this place up for a pop. No drinks nothing. Just straight business.
After I get my first quickie out of the way, I head to other places with cuter girls who generally charge more and also sometimes only do one pop.
Guys, will be on a long layover (10 hours) next week and think I should try one of the famous BJ bars. Don't want to get lost chasing bad establishments, so can you gentlemen refer me to a couple of good ones?You can just go to Dr. BJ's its by far the easiest, cleanest and stuff around, especially for a new person one-time shot. You can google for some info on it. It's located on Sukhumvit 7/1 down what seems like a somewhat shady bar street with lots of ladies out front, but its fine, easy to go in, select a girl, they bring you up to a room, clean you up, do their thing, clean you up again, then you go down and pay. Depending on the girl it will be 800-1000 baht (most are 1000).
A cab will be 400-500 baht, public transport will be like 100.
From Suvarnabhumi Airport (BKK), take the airport rail link to the last stop, Phaya Thai, then transfer onto the BTS Skytrain and take that to Nana station. The street is right on the north side of Nana station.
Hey all,
Went to Nana a week or so ago, here's a quick summary. I was pretty beat so was only looking for takeout if I saw something I had to have, otherwise was just browsing, having some beers and good times.
Started at Rainbow 4 (the new location? By the far best of the night. 70+ girls, nearly all doable, mostly skinny attractive, a few with some bigger boobs are nice backsides, but mostly that skinny Thai look. If I was trying harder, I would have just stopped here, grabbed one of a dozen girls that were looking quite well and had a quick in and out night. A like this place, there is zero pressure, they let you just chill and if you want a girl just ask and they will bring her to you. The place was literally packed to the brim with people and girls.
Went to Angel Witch next. Usually I find some good stuff here, this time, nah, compared to Rainbow 4, the girls here all had a bit more heft to them, only about 15-20 ladies in the entire place, and only like 7 on stage. The outfits here are nice though. None of their special shows while I was there, but they aren't particularly interesting anyways, so whatever. Stayed for a beer and left.
Looked into DC-10 and another spot, and they were basically devoid of life expect some girls standing around.
Went into Spanky's which is quite lively, lots of girls in the audience getting all over people and a much more excited crowed and girls. That being said, quality was a little better than Angel Witch, and the couple better looking ones were already all over people in the audience. Still no comparison to most of the ladies at Rainbow 4.
The couple bars on the side near the stairs to Spanky's (Straps?) had some good looking ladies hanging out in the door way and outside, but pretty much no one in the actual bar, I didn't go in.
Mercury seemed to be going off, but I didn't make my way in there, maybe next time I'm in Bangkok in a week or so.
Went out from Nana after a handful of beers in different spots, pretty exhausted from the day already and called it a night to go bigger the next day.
Tl; Dr: Rainbow 4 was the best, everywhere else was meh, Mercury looked happening but didn't go in, Straps? Seemed to have some hotties hanging around.
You could try the BJ bar whose name must not be mentioned on this forum (Google Vladamir Nabakov) or the other BJ bar around the corner from there called Kasalong. Both are located in an alley off SOI 8 about 20 meters from a 7/11. There are a couple of cute girls at either location but I mean only a couple.
Another option is Lollipops off SOI 10. I have never visited and suspect quality is not too great.
Finally, there are a couple on SOI 7/1 on oposite side of SUK 8 and a bit to the east. One is called Dr. BJ's and have only walked by. The girls sit out in front in all of the bars.
Guys, will be on a long layover (10 hours) next week and think I should try one of the famous BJ bars. Don't want to get lost chasing bad establishments, so can you gentlemen refer me to a couple of good ones?
You could try the BJ bar whose name must not be mentioned on this forum (Google Vladamir Nabakov) or the other BJ bar around the corner from there called Kasalong. Both are located in an alley off SOI 8 about 20 meters from a 7/11. There are a couple of cute girls at either location but I mean only a couple.
Another option is Lollipops off SOI 10. I have never visited and suspect quality is not too great.
Finally, there are a couple on SOI 7/1 on oposite side of SUK 8 and a bit to the east. One is called Dr. BJ's and have only walked by. The girls sit out in front in all of the bars.I believe there were BJ bars around Nana hotel around 2 years ago but the over under on the quality scale was 3. Mostly chicks I wouldn't want for free. I think there was another one in Soi Cowboy but the quality was terrible unless your a non-choosy desperate / lonely elderly man.
Etaoin2003
05-25-16, 23:35
You could try the BJ bar whose name must not be mentioned on this forum (Google Vladamir Nabakov) ...
Finally, there are a couple on SOI 7/1 on oposite side of SUK 8 and a bit to the east. One is called Dr. BJ's and have only walked by. The girls sit out in front in all of the bars.Having experienced both the place-that-shall-not-be-named and Dr. BJ's, the latter is bobbing head and shoulders above the former.
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I decided at least for one night to change my MO and go to a different fishing hole. The venue selected was Mixx located in the basement of the Intercontinental Hotel on Suk near the Chitlom stop. Since I had been in Siam earlier for dinner I managed my time so I could still use the sky train and get over there before midnight as I had read there is no point in arriving earlier than midnight. This proved to be true as it really does not start to fill up before 1 am. It's 350 baht entry fee, which get you one drink.
First, there were many, many, girls here of all different types, sizes, and nationalities. There are actually two separate rooms as part of this disco club. One allows smoking and plays more traditional disco music and the other is non-smoking and has more contemporary dance music. The girls stroll freely between the two rooms, as did I observing the various talent on offer. Wednesday has the first 3 drinks free for the girls so it's aptly named Ladies Night, which I am sure contributed to the numerous talent on offer. I also saw several girls from obvious Bangkok service industry type jobs with no hope of being picked up as they were not dressed very well until it occurred to me that these girls came for the free drinks. I actually thought one was not too bad and may have been a good non pro choice because after a while the rest of the club appeared redolent of pro's.
Unlike Bangkok Beat, there were some really attractive girls in here. Top shelf! And also unlike Bangkok Beat, the girls were not as aggressive earlier in the evening. I would get some smiles and suggestive glances but no advances that I had to akwardly shun off. I figured (correctly, as it turned out) that inhibitions would lessen as more alcohol was consumed and by 2 am the girls were being much more forward. I had to dump one girl not to my liking at one time and then moved to the other room. Here, I spoke for the second time that evening to a very attractive girl of Taiwanese and Thailand descent. We had spoken earlier and I thought this girl for all her beauty, and she was gorgeous, is a total pro and I would be wise not to pursue anything further. Since she reengaged me in conversation, I decided to appear more interested than I really was to see what the top shelf talent was asking for in here. All in the line of duty, of course. I never did determine whether her opening price was for short or long term but she quoted me $200 USD and did not mention baht in our discussion but that's 7000 baht for those readers without a calculator. I immediately said that's too much and she immediately asked me for a counter offer. I gave her my traditional opening price from Bangkok Beat of 2000 baht, which she soundly turned down saying that she can't go for that with a turned up nose also stating she was leaving for home. I guess she can make more money at home?
A few minutes later, I saw her again idling nearby and wondered if she was coming over again but my area was crowded with other people so never got to find out. Included within a crowd of several girls was a girl I had spotted earlier with a short sleeve tight sweater and skirt of some sort reminescent of one of the cartoon characters from the Archie comic strip -- Veronica, I think. She did not have the typical flat chested Thai look but instead had great looking breasts and ample body with wider hips accompanied by a firm bottom that I immediately started fantasizing about seeing her naked. She had a gorgeous face and lighter hair though I am sure her hair was highlighted. She also had a naughty mouth on her too, always a good sign, I have discovered. Her friend was not nearly so interesting looking but was chattier and used more prosaic and fractured English. One thing led to the next and I found myself strolling out of there an hour later with the both of them trailing behind. I decided that if I was going to take two, as they proposed, it was going to be at a bargain basement price so I offered 2000 Baht each for two hours, two pops. The attractive large breasted girl told me later she agreed to this price to help out her friend who was clearly not in the competitive range of many other girls in there. In a way, I was in no mood to negotiate any further as the deal could have blown up as the one girl asked for a drink for the both of them. They had been drinking Heinekens so I agreed but ended up getting stuck with a tab for two glasses of wine instead. That was not a good sign of future behavior, which proved out in the end.
A couple of random notes:
*The week before I paid 2500 each for two girls at Bangkok Beat for what turned to be an awesome threesome. Funny that I was paying less here in a place that has reputed high priced girls. Though I had more fun with these girls than tonight.
*I saw and nodded at the only girl I picked up this winter at Bangkok Beat who was a bad provider. Indeed, she was the only girl in two winters in BKK who asked to be paid upfront, which I declined a the time, and the predictable service when this happens proved to be lousy. She had a forlorn look on her face and suspect her bad service might be catching up with her. When she saw me, she realized I would not be a repeat customer and quickly moved on. Touché!
Fellow mongers take note: Never, and I mean NEVER, pay upfront.
*I could not help but notice a lot of girls hanging nearby, vulture like, as I negotiated the price with these girls all giving me stealthy and plaintive glances in case the deal blew up.
*Before I met these girls, I had a conversation in Spanish with a girl from Medellin. She had several companions with her and most were not, to put it kindly, the creme de la Creme of the Medellin scene. My policy is only go with Colombians when in Columbia. As out of country Colombianas take the word mercenary to a new level. Never bothered to inquire as to price.
*There were also a lot of Russian and / or CIS girls here. Most were quite large and quite unattractive.
*When the deal was finally struck (4:30am), the girls asked me to leave beforehand and they would meet me outside the entryway of the club. I guess management does not want this club to appear as a place guys pick up girls? Kind of weird.
*Avoid the standing taxis outside the club and walk to the Main Street to flag down a moving taxi.
So back to the game:
Onward to my apartment was, as usual in these cases, where I have to herd all these pussycats into the same room, as in my bedroom. After the less attractive girl took her clothes off and I showered with her, I decided that I was not that interested and would use her as a body prop when I fucked the girl with the great breasts. Basically, had a very good time banging my main girl when after some vigorous interplay she suggested that a pearl necklace (my words, not hers) would be a nice finish so as I came close to coming, I pulled out, and slid 'Him' as she called it alternating between her firm breasts and luscious mouth and lips and the other girl stroked 'Him' to satisfaction on my main girls ample breasts amd mouth. The 2nd girl also liked periodically sliding her fingers between my ass cheeks while stroking my member in the other girls mouth and so she was somewhat earning her pay.
For the second go around, I stayed with the same girl as the prior time and even let the other girl slip out of the room -- She was really not that great and it's a good thing I only offered 2000. But this time, my main girl really got into it, especially with dirty talk -- something about fucking me with her fingers etc. -- and I ended partially shooting in her mouth, her breasts, and on her hair in between some great breast slides. It was actually better the second time with the other girl in tap different room. My main girl really knew how to use her tits to great advantage. Slip Sliding between ample breasts does not happen to me in Thailand very often.
If there was any criticism, there was no kissing which she had promised in the club. Where have I heard that before?
Ok, so we all wrap things up and I pay the girls the agreed price and the chatty one starts on about tipping and taxi fare. I had no interest in tipping. For one thing, I never fucked the one girl and as good a time as I had with the main girl, I want to decide to tip, not be pressured into it. Plus the recently enacted no kissing policy in my apartment irritated me. Also, no Bangkok Beat girl, for what it is worth, has ever brought up tipping so I am not used to tipping. But the other thing was the main girl did not want to share her Line number with me so perhaps the chemistry was not as good as I thought or she was just being a Biatch. However, I finally determined my main girl appeared upset that she went with me for only 2000 baht and was trying to up her fee to even things out (for her). The other girl also kept saying that actually my main girl needed more money for her English lessons, like that's my problem. I gave them a 100 baht for taxi fare in the end. All in all, this threesome could have been a lot worse as I had a feeling that the less attractive girl job was to make me come faster, which I avoided and resisted, pulling her hands away from critical sensitive areas at times when necessary. As time went on, my main girl got into the sex quite a bit, but staying power* is important in these circumstances when this occurs. The better you fuck them, the more their pro like behavior lessens. *With a special thanks to my little blue friend.
They did ask me what are my favorite clubs and I said, of course, Bangkok Beat, which they had never heard of so gave them directions and said to look for me on Saturday.
First off, I've only been there once. So I am no expert.
1. I don't think mgmt has any problems with girls heading out with guys. Together. When they exit the main area. I saw several cut their deals and leave with either American or European guys. And one very hot slinky super pro (who does the cross leg runway catwalk walk) returned after 1. 5 hours. So I think she prefers to take more than 1 sucker each night! LOL.
2. The smoking section / side is somewhat larger, has more TV's has a more stylistic contemporary decor and plays mostly EDM not disco music. I believe the smoking part and the EDM part attract the most of the Russians and the CIS girls to that other separate area of the Mixx club, and thankfully the smokers (eg Korean and Japanese) too. I went over there to the smoking EDM side 3-4 times during the 5 plus hours I spent at MIXX a few nights ago.
3. Yeah, I agree the really hot girls were a bit older, dressed super great, probably former models and are what I would call super pros. I don't believe any of them would be very interested in LT.
4. I think you did not do too bad at all. But for the other girl ( ugly ? ) tagging along. Perhaps the cuter girl prefers to stay under the radar for reasons of her own. Eg local BF. Anyways, you did better than I did. So kudos!
Uncle Volodya
05-26-16, 06:39
I decided at least for one night to change my MO and go to a different fishing hole. Great report Tomasb! This is a great description of the place and I think you have it pretty much figured out. Good info about ladies night on Wednesday too.
You are right that girls are a bit more pro there. But I have found good GFE types there too. You just need to dig diligently. Ladies night sounds like a good time for that as there may be more regular girls there. And you need to bargain hard as the girls there quote very high prices (but most will come down).
All in all I think you did pretty well for the price. Titty fucking Veronika from the Archie Comics sounds like a great night to me. If only your 13 year old self could know!. 555.
Thanks Uncle V. It's guys like you I like to write the reports for as you have a true appreciation of the nightly hijinks in BKK. Also, good point because when I was 13 yo, Veronica was a wet dream only. To finally bed a Veronica, and in Thailand no less, was quite the surprise.
Yes, I think there may be a few savvy non pros in Mixx just for some free drinks and maybe meet a guy but it takes a discerning and quick eye to find that special non pro. 3 free drinks is a great deal for the gals. I think the non pro girl I noticed who was simply dressed would have been shocked if I approached her and prob could have gotten her home for much less than the standard price there.
By the way, tonight is free flow champagne night at Kuteda for the ladies, said to be the supreme night club at the moment in BKK. It's near the W Hotel so a bit far for me but may go since I am leaving BKK soon. I am sure that I will see many of the same gals on the free drink circuit as I saw at Mixx.
Great report Tomasb! This is a great description of the place and I think you have it pretty much figured out. Good info about ladies night on Wednesday too.
You are right that girls are a bit more pro there. But I have found good GFE types there too. You just need to dig diligently. Ladies night sounds like a good time for that as there may be more regular girls there. And you need to bargain hard as the girls there quote very high prices (but most will come down).
All in all I think you did pretty well for the price. Titty fucking Veronika from the Archie Comics sounds like a great night to me. If only your 13 year old self could know!. 555.
Went to Nana a week or so ago, here's a quick summary. Thanks Blaster, for the quick review. Perfect level of detail and clarity. This helps me plan my upcoming visit.
I decided at least for one night to change my MO and go to a different fishing hole. The venue selected was Mixx located in the basement of the Intercontinental Hotel on Suk near the Chitlom stop. Brilliant report Tomasb, thanks for the info. I've never been to Mixx before, and the idea of going there kind of intimidates me, to be honest. Not sure why, maybe it's the swankiness of the Intercon, or the location (closer to the prim and proper Chit Lom than nasty Nana). Whatever the reason, I'll overcome this and give it a try soon.
One thing I really dislike about places like Levels, or Q-bar, or a couple of the other places high up on soi 11 is the large number of caucasian males and females. If I see a bunch of blonde in a club, I know it ain't for me. My brown skin competes poorly, and prices tend to be higher in such places. How does Mixx compare to places like Levels in that respect? Does it seem like a more international clientele, or are Thai girls in the majority?
Brilliant report Tomasb, thanks for the info. I've never been to Mixx before, and the idea of going there kind of intimidates me, to be honest. Not sure why, maybe it's the swankiness of the Intercon, or the location (closer to the prim and proper Chit Lom than nasty Nana). Whatever the reason, I'll overcome this and give it a try soon.
One thing I really dislike about places like Levels, or Q-bar, or a couple of the other places high up on soi 11 is the large number of caucasian males and females. If I see a bunch of blonde in a club, I know it ain't for me. My brown skin competes poorly, and prices tend to be higher in such places. How does Mixx compare to places like Levels in that respect? Does it seem like a more international clientele, or are Thai girls in the majority?
TomasB and Uncle V, please chime in! Kumbu, I am neither white nor black. And, I'm not Thai. I am a mix. Haha. So, I would say no need to worry. You will feel A-OK at Mixx. I'd say about 50 PC Thai. Many of the girls are actually a mix of Thai and something else. But, I believe prices are high, if you end up dealing with those I call super pros. Don't go for the Russians or the CIS girls, I'd say, Stick to the Thai and Thai mix looking girls and strike a deal before 3 am (vs me who's waited until 430 am, and MIXX closes at 5 am ). I made that mistake because I just love to be in my own zone, roam around, observe watch, and and dance alone or with the crowd, rather be bothered with 'a' girl, until the club's closing time...yeah silly me. I do it every frickin time....lol. But then, I'm not always wanting to hook up with a different girl every single night, particularly for 3-4 weeks in a row.
Waiting has worked for me in Brazil, Peru, DR, and in Pattaya but not in BKK. Demand is greater than supply (of young semi pro, occasional pro girls and they get taken ) in BKK. I will correct this error in early Feb on the tail end of my next trip.
However, I have decided that Pattaya works better for me due to more semi and non pros, and so I will be back to Patts right after the new year (because, unfortunately, my travel plans are planned out and committed through summer, fall, with Thanksgiving, Chtistmas and New Year family commitments ) .
But it will be for a month. And if Pattaya gets old after 3 weeks, then I will probably go to Phukat for 10 days at the tail end. If not, I will spend the entire month in Pattaya. Particularly, if Uncle V returns around then...lol
TomasB and Uncle V, please chime in! Kumbu, I am kinda light brown skin like you, I think. So, I would say no need to worry. You will feel A-OK at Mixx. I'd say about 50 PC Thai. But, I believe prices are high if you end up dealing with those I call super pros. Don't go for the Russians or the CIS girls, I'd say. Stick to the Thai girls and strike a deal before 3 am (vs me who's waited until 430 am, and MIXX closes at 5 am ). Thanks Haven, this is very reassuring. I certainly won't be dancing until dawn, that's for sure. I'd prefer to bed a lady and be nicely tucked away by 2 am if possible, in time to get 5 hours shut eye before I have to wake up for work. But given your positive appraisal of Mixx, I have been convinced to pay it a visit.
And I'll be looking for your next set of fine reports when you return in the new year.
I would not describe Mixx as overly swanky and, in fact, you can gain entry by walking in from Suk and avoiding the IC lobby all together, which you enter from the side of the building. For the initial Mixx entry point, you then proceed down a hallway and take the escalator down another level. The club itself is a bit dated and could use some renovation. It even has a disco ball. How dated is that? The security guys in and out appear very professional and polite. Yes, and the numbers start dwindling by 4am. I would have it in your mind how much you are prepared to pay and the duration because my limited experience suggests they are asking for a lot more than other BKK venues. But remember it's basically the same girls who last year might have been in Hilary's or some other down market club.
As far as the makeup of the girls, I would say at least 50%, if not more last night, are Thai. There are not many blonds, just the skanky CIS girls and very few farang women tourists that I could see.
Uncle Volodya
05-26-16, 08:14
Hi Kumbu!
A lot of punters form the Subcontinent like this place, including the legendary Alex of this board and it has a reputation of being a more welcoming to darker complexioned folks. So I think you are OK.
Mixx is also much more pro oriented and I can't remember seeing regular farangs there partying. The Caucasian girls you will see there are all CIS or Latin America FLs. In that respect I'd say its more like Spasso (I have never been but I have heard a lot about that scene) than Levels.
Haven is right about there being a lot of mixed Thai / other nationality girls there. I think this is the most interesting thing about Mixx (no pun intended).
As for being home in bed with your girl by 2 AM, I am not so sure. Its definitely possible but you will have to act quick. And you may nto get the pick of the litter that way. Like all discos this place only really gets started by 1 AM. Thermae may be a better bet if you want an early night. I hear that the scene there has improved a bit, though still nothing like it was a few years ago.
Haven, I see you have gotten the Pattaya / LOS bug. 555. I hope we can meet up again after New Year the Winter.
Uncle Volodya
05-26-16, 08:18
Thanks Uncle V. It's guys like you I like to write the reports for as you have a true appreciation of the nightly hijinks in BKK.
By the way, tonight is free flow champagne night at Kuteda for the ladies, said to be the supreme night club at the moment in BKK. It's near the W Hotel so a bit far for me but may go since I am leaving BKK soon. I am sure that I will see many of the same gals on the free drink circuit as I saw at Mixx.Please, please go!! 555. Reading your report will make my week! What I wouldn't give to be on the ground to go with you!
But seriously, it would be good to get some solid intel on this place an even from a trusted and reliable source such as yourself.
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