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08-15-16, 19:24
I intended to take a Mango girl but she wasn't working, .. . Thermae ... I can't remember if I ever took another girl since that time. If so, quite unmemorable.
... . I finally spotted a cutie with big lips and light tan skin. ... I decided to speak to her and she did not beat around the Bush at all suggesting we should go for a short time. (Chua Khrao is the Thai expression). I doubt she had much English as she did not seem to know the words "Short Time"... Name was Nit.Turned out Nit had a good body when undressed even if small tits. No big disappointment. All natural. Age 23. No baby no sag. Very short very black pussy hair. On the bed she was a bit weird. Squirmed around at first avoiding to be kissed. Seemed to be a cleanliness freak or scared of microbes. Did not seem to be into DATY much. I just realised right now I didn't get a BJ either. So naturally every one will realise that "service" was non existent. We just sort of played with each other until was hard enough to fuck her.
As fuck went much better and she seemed to enjoy this, moving to it quite well, and having my pubic area rub against her clit while screwing. She seemed to like fucking only. Gave me a very nice doggie to get me to cum. So all up quite nice for the fuck, but there was absolutely nothing else. Not professional in any way at all.
Turned out she had a day job selling clothes, and only was part time hooker when short of money, she suggested about 5 days per month. So its luck of the draw with part time girls whether they have any skills whatsoever and how passionate they are. This one was very friendly but clearly a microbe scared girl, was my assessment.
Obviously despite getting off okay, there is no way I would repeat, as I normally get nice kissing, nice BJ etc. It worked out cheaper than a Bargirl as did not have to pay barfine or buy her any drinks. Perhaps next time I might have to discuss the service with a Thermae girl. We did not discuss the service and actually did not discuss the money either, so I was free to pay her what I felt was about right. I have little clue what is the going rate there. The girl obviously believed Farangs are Jai Dee. LOL.
Its not fair to really rate Thermae based on a sample of one weird girl I think. I could try again another night. I will try to get a girl more stunning next time, not just pretty, might need to be a Saturday, or may have to wait patiently till the right girl arrives.An interesting report, Syzygies. Kind of like a day in the life of a punter in BKK.
I think I know the Mango girl you were planning to see. She is a sexy girl who knows her way around the boudoir and likes pleasing her customers. I took her 3 times last trip including an early afternoon outcall. No need to mention her name. IMHO she is one of only two doable girls currently in the Mango lineup these days.
Nit, your Thermae gal sounds intriguing ie a part timer with not so apparent foreplay skills, but one who enjoys a good shag when she gets one. Ha Ha. Depending on how cute she was and how good the initial chemistry; she might have a lot more to give further down the road with additional attentions, but then again there are so many BKK girls to choose from, one doesn't have the time to break in every nice girl one meets. Anyway, I will be on the lookout for your further adventures at Thermae and other colorful venues. Some say the Thermae girls are Asian-centric (left side), but I have had few problems getting a girl I really wanted from either side of the room. The problem for me has always been Thermae quality. Sometimes there just isn't any quality. Additionally, many of the girls dress so shabby. Their presentation really stands in the way of my making a move. And lastly, I hate bedroom surprises so unless a girl is facially very good looking, which is kind of rare at Thermae, I am very gun shy in this place. I think I have had only two Thermae girls in the last 6 or7 years. One of my 2 girls was a knock out and a part timer who said she worked in a law office and I believed her. Sadly I lost her cell number and never saw her or any girl of her quality in Thermae again. Boo Hoo!
In any case, Rock On and have a great trip. I know you will. I just wish I was in BKK right now instead of picking ripe mangos from my trees and lollygagging by my pool in south Florida. Its a rough life, but this is what I have to do for now.
I got generic Cialis called "Apcalis" from a small pharmacy near to the Emporium shopping mall on Sukhumvit. Sealed blister packs of 2, not 4. I forgot the exact price but I think it was about 300 or 400 per package.
As to the effects, when I take one in the afternoon, I feel it working until about the early morning.Normally they sell a cardboard packet containing two foil blister packs of two tablets each I believe, so still 4 tablets in total for 400 Baht. Apcalis / Cialis is actually little or no benefit to me. I don't really feel any great assistance. May as well take a placebo, however I understand it works well for others. I never use with my GF in any case. She doesn't like marathon sex. LOL 30 minutes fuck is enough for her, as she orgasms with extreme ease, very sensitive and explodes first time with less than 2 minutes of DATY.
Viagra / Kamagra does have a powerful effect for me, even small dose, so no idea why Cialis doesn't do much.
I think I know the Mango girl you were planning to see. She is a sexy girl who knows her way around the boudoir and likes pleasing her customers. I took her 3 times last trip including an early afternoon outcall. No need to mention her name. IMHO she is one of only two doable girls currently in the Mango lineup these days.Actually I was thinking of trying Ae for a change at Mango. Her web pics looked pretty sexy to me. Don't recall if I have actually seen her in the flesh so I hope won't be disappointed.
I agree that there would be potential for Nit at Thermae to improve on subsequent liasons, but I just can't be bothered taking the risk and putting the effort in. There are plenty of other possible girls. I never take girls again that don't kiss unless they are absolutely drop dead gorgeous. One such girl, a blonde Romanian with stunning face and ass, did get persuaded to include kissing eventually. I will little doubt see her again.
I have seen a lot of guys walking on the street with very pretty companions, more so than I used to see in previous years. Not sure where all the stunning hookers are coming from. Maybe not the bars I attend. Maybe they come from very special clubs. Maybe they are big money girls, I don't know. Could be Coyote girls from somewhere. I know one or two stunning Coyotes. Most Coyotes on Cowboy and at Nana are rather ordinary though.
I got lucky the girl's body was not a train wreck under the clothes, with no problems, but its a big punt to take a girl with clothes on. They do dress a bit too conservatively at times. I simply won't choose the girl if her outfit is not tight enough to show the figure reasonably well.
Alright so a guy only has so much willpower, mine was never plentiful anyway.
Tonight I went back to CH and payed my 3000 B for girl #72, Nut. Having been there a number of times in the last month Nut stands out to me as easily the most attractive to my eye, only problem being that she always dances in a bikini.
After the obligatory tequilas we were shortly on the way to my hotel and I must say that Nut lost none of her charm when we left CH as some girls do. Chatty and funny Nut was easy to talk to and once we arrived in the room there was no rush from her whatsoever despite it being a busy Firiday night.
We probably chatted on the sofa for 20 minutes or so before showers and down to action. There were two things in particular that will stick in my mind for ever. One was the terrible boob job Nut had. Clearly she's aware of that hence the wearing of the bikini to cover that up. Seriously, the surgeon that left her with such a disfigurement should be shot and if he survives he should be shot again. Harsh I know but nobody should do such a thing to another human being.
Back to the action, the other thing that will stay in my mind is the sight of Nut's spectacular body before me as I was about to commence doggy. The most perfect ass, delightfully tanned skin, a waist I can almost get my hands around, a lean and tight torso leading up to an almost pixie haircut, her face turning to look at mine with that desperation to continue that session. Hey, those of us without too much ego know it's mostly an acting job they perform but what the hell, she should win an Oscar for the performance she put in. Beautiful memories.For me the ass, is more important than the tits so thankfully CH does not really have girls with completely hidden ass. BTW, technically girls don't wear bikini, its bikini top only with short skirt and no knickers. Essentially the short skirt does not hide the lower portion of the ass nor the pussy completely. Not all girls wearing a top have bad boobs. Some are just shy. It is hard to tell.
Can't say that Nut #72 rings a bell at all. Either I did not meet her or just wasn't my type. Nice she performed well. Aha, I think I now recall a girl with short hair bob cut, looking quite good, hot ass, but wearing a bra covering fairly obviously bad boob job I thought. Never spoke to her and did not note the number. So could be wrong girl. I think she was there Saturday but not since then.
I recently reported I could not really take No. 148, due to a top really hiding her boobs shape completely, even though her ass looked magnificent.
Other day I reported cute No. 28 as Oo. I believe her name should be Boom.
Return to Crazy House. Lineup was even better than Sunday. Arrived at 11PM. Many good lookers. This place is already significantly better than Baccara. Faces better, bodies better. Not so much fake stuff. Okay Some mammoth enhanced tits. Many very nice naturals. Completely nude girls with shaven pussy dancing quite raunchy. Some of the pussy is looking real fine. I fancied very pretty No. 91 (not a totally nude one). Problem was she was right near bickering over the price with a younger guy with beard. He would not go high enough and she would not go low enough. In the end they kept trying and not sure if the deal finally got done.
I first visited Crazy House on 16th August 2013, so today is 3rd anniversary. As you can see above (posted 20th Aug 2013) I first saw Oom No. 91 that August. I did not first fuck her until a much later date (fortunately) since she had to be under the limit. She still works there now. Something is a little fishy. She tells me that she did not start at CH till her 18th birthday. However now tell me she will turn 21 this November. Do I detect an inconsistency? LOL She first claimed to have no nose job too. Actually has a very good nose job. Not a completely honest bargirl. LOL Says she has no BF any more too. What to believe? LOL At least I know she is good on the bed and has stamina. That is no lie.
Today I am told of a possible Cambodian girl. This place leads clearly has a special relationship with police. I have seen them hiding the Yaa Dong (special ladies alcohol drink) before the police were known to be coming in advance for a check. I don't believe any place would risk girls too young though in the current environment. Places are getting shut down for that sort of stuff. Recently some street bars shut down supposedly for this reason.
Left and decided to stop by Thermae at 21.30. Would it be too early? My last visit to Thermae meeting a very memorable girl for LT booking was about 15 years ago. I can't remember if I ever took another girl since that time. If so, quite unmemorable. . . Name was Nit.
Very nice report Syzygies, thanks. This is the kind of report that I find useful, in that you tell us about the scene at Thermae, compare it to other days, you tell us about the experience with the girl, as well as some background on the girl. That's the kind of info that helps me navigate the scene in BKK. So thanks.
Banana Boi
08-16-16, 00:53
Left and decided to stop by Thermae at 21.30. Would it be too early? My last visit to Thermae meeting a very memorable girl for LT booking was about 15 years ago. I can't remember if I ever took another girl since that time. If so, quite unmemorable.......A circuit indicated that the number of stunners was way less than last Saturday at midnight, if there were any at all. Plainly a few girls were showing interest in me, so I need not worry that girls want Japanese only. .I was at Thermae throughout the night on Wed, August 10 and Thu, August 11. I found Wed to have more girls to my liking than Thu. I know Syzy and I have completely different taste when it comes to Thai girls. I prefer the post surgery look to make them look Westernized or like a Japanese AV Idol.
If you think about it, 9:30-10:00 pm may not be the time to get the best selection at Thermae. Thermae opens at 8 pm when there would only be 20 girls. By 9:00 pm the girls are there. Many girls are already taken by a Japanese guy before 9:30 pm so may not be back in the club until after 10:30 pm. I find before 9:00 pm watching the girls arrive and between 11:00 pm to midnight are good times.
I went with a girl named LOS with D cups, I'm assuming they were fake but they felt soft. Super nice girl and always smiling even in the club. Also went to a girl who looked like Chloe Grace Moretz to me. Very non-thai looking. Name was Mika or something like that. Another nice girl. Next girl was one who looked like a Japanese AV Idol. English was not great. Forgot name since she was unmemorable. Still worth the 2000 baht ST. Finally went with my regular girl who always makes me wonder why I go with anyone else. I'm just a butterfly.
Throughout the night I always take a stroll up the back stairs and the Ruamchit lobby. You will always find some girls here (not ladyboys like in the front entrance).
Can't wait to get back to Thermae in the next couple of weeks. imo the best place for girls at fair value in BKK and Pattaya and way better than Ipanema in Singapore, regardless of price.
I was at Thermae throughout the night on Wed, August 10 and Thu, August 11. I found Wed to have more girls to my liking than Thu. I know Syzy and I have completely different taste when it comes to Thai girls. I prefer the post surgery look to make them look Westernized or like a Japanese AV Idol.
If you think about it, 9:30-10:00 pm may not be the time to get the best selection at Thermae. Thermae opens at 8 pm when there would only be 20 girls. By 9:00 pm the girls are there. Many girls are already taken by a Japanese guy before 9:30 pm so may not be back in the club until after 10:30 pm. I find before 9:00 pm watching the girls arrive and between 11:00 pm to midnight are good times.
I went with a girl named LOS with D cups, I'm assuming they were fake but they felt soft. Super nice girl and always smiling even in the club. Also went to a girl who looked like Chloe Grace Moretz to me. Very non-thai looking. Name was Mika or something like that. Another nice girl. Next girl was one who looked like a Japanese AV Idol. English was not great. Forgot name since she was unmemorable. Still worth the 2000 baht ST. Finally went with my regular girl who always makes me wonder why I go with anyone else. I'm just a butterfly.
Throughout the night I always take a stroll up the back stairs and the Ruamchit lobby. You will always find some girls here (not ladyboys like in the front entrance).
Can't wait to get back to Thermae in the next couple of weeks. imo the best place for girls at fair value in BKK and Pattaya and way better than Ipanema in Singapore, regardless of price.Name LOS? Is that a weird Thai pronunciation of Rose? However Thai words never end in an S sound so really weird. Perhaps the spelling autocorrector changed what you actually wrote for the name.
I have never heard of Chloe so will have to look that up. No clue what is a Japanese AV Idol either. I did look up Chloe and did not recognise her. Probably never saw any of her movies made as an adult. Not my type of movies I guess. I guess she is not exactly famous outside the USA.
I tend to agree that there is a good chance I was not at Thermae at best time. Midnight Saturday had more stunners for sure. The other girl I liked got taken pretty quickly. At least I learn that Thermae is a possible option for Farangs, not just Asian customers.
I did look in some clubs in Singapore last year and was not that impressed by the standard. I was with a hot Thai girl at the time and perhaps so taken with her that I could not see anything else much.
Come now, surely you will know if tits are real or not once you touch them. I assume you are just being polite. If tits are injected with body fat taken from liposuction, that is borderline. They can be enhanced but do not feel fake necessarily. However this procedure does not last, so girls rarely use it.
Banana Boi
08-16-16, 07:12
I just typed the name as I heard it. I thought it was a weird Thai name as well. Pretty sure it wasn't Rose she spoke English well.
AV Idol is a Japanese porn star.
Agree those Japanese guys pounce on decent girls pretty quickly. One caught my eye when she walked in and she was out the door again in a minute.
Syzy, I'll be in BKK a bit over the next month. If you want to meet up at Thermae, send me a PM.
Syzy, I'll be in BKK a bit over the next month. If you want to meet up at Thermae, send me a PM.For sure we won't be fighting to get the same girl. LOL.
AV Idol is a Japanese porn star.
Ah. Adult Video I suppose. I always found Japanese porn to be pretty much boring. Not erotic at all for me. Never touch it any more. I tend to like that Nubile pretty girl with stunning slim all natural body stuff, especially like Latin girls, or Tiny 4 K. Not too hard core, certainly no Bukkake. One guy with multiple girls is better. I try not to look at porn unless I get really seriously sex starved. No wanking while in LOS. Must not Fap! LOL Anyway government tries to block the porn sites here, right? It is so criminal to watch porn. Ha Ha.
I have to be careful about girls a bit too youthful. A guy can accidentally get caught out by that sort of thing here when we have no idea about the girl's age. I am sure I have done girls too young accidentally on occasion. One was already a mother, slightly saggy tits, so I did not think she could possibly be too young. I don't usually ask to see the ID. , but I should, especially if the girl's natural tits are a bit too high and firm. On such girl's tits were absolutely "to die for" yet she wore a very conservative top that hid them away, being a shy type, so even her co-workers at the bar did not know how fabulous Noi's tits were. She was so inexperienced that she still had full pussy Bush untrimmed too. Easy Bar street cart bar and others have gone now, shut down by the police. Alas I don't even have the number to contact Noi. So I still can't check how old she was. Of course I did ask her originally how old she was but she could have easily lied about her age. They all do, if necessary. Girls have been known to borrow the ID of someone else, also.
I include this as a warning to newbies. There is big police crack down closing places that have girls under 18. Hence Nataree, etc. However a guy could get caught being with a girl too young and get into serious trouble. Most MPs now insist the girl is at least 20, I think? Not sure on this one. One Hotel did not want to allow me to take a 19 year old to the room as a temporary guest, in the past, but allowed me to check her in. Must have been no rule for checked in guests.
We are not allowed to promote places for young girls on this forum, however I think warning about it is O.K. same as warning about ladyboys.
Places are getting shut down for that sort of stuff. Recently some street bars shut down supposedly for this reason.You are right about street bars. I was at Easy Bar in June when police checked girls ID's and they took one [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girl away and another was taken by her mother! Bar is now closed.
Gannaton48
08-16-16, 11:14
Very nice report Syzygies, thanks. This is the kind of report that I find useful, in that you tell us about the scene at Thermae, compare it to other days, you tell us about the experience with the girl, as well as some background on the girl. That's the kind of info that helps me navigate the scene in BKK. So thanks.When I was there last month I was going to Thermae on two consecutive evenings and was really astonished that the girls were totally different both evenings. I would have tought there are many regulars coming every evening (like Beergarden for example) but I think 90% of the girls were different. So yes the girl of your dream may be there the next day.
Gannaton48
08-16-16, 11:16
I will try a threesome upon my next visit to BKK. I know Eden Club is the provider for this but in fact I am not interested in anal. Is it obligatory to take at least one A+ girl at EdenClub? Which other places offer threesomes? Thanks guys!
I will try a threesome upon my next visit to BKK. I know Eden Club is the provider for this but in fact I am not interested in anal. Is it obligatory to take at least one A+ girl at EdenClub? Which other places offer threesomes? Thanks guys!I used to get very good 3 somes from Suzi Wong. I would normally choose girls from the lesbian show that were pretty comfortable with each other. I don't know if any of my girls are still consistently there. I hear Knot works sometimes.
My favourites were Bo, Dtom, Noi, Naam, Knot, Ma, Anne (with enhanced Dees), also Yao these days with enhanced tits too. Many of them maybe gone unfortunately. Noi and Naam got a bit fatter. Girls at Eden that I tried were too obviously fake actresses working to a script. The Suzi girls seemed more natural. If skinny Dtom is still there, she would be the expert on which girls are good for threesomes. Dtom claims to be the best pussy licker at the shop and has a tight pussy. She has done hundreds of threesomes. She is certainly "the expert", given that bisexual Bo is gone now.
I generally gave the threesomes away due to favouring the lovely Noo Dee who did not do threesomes and has retired now. Also my stamina to do marathon sessions with two or three girls declined with old age. One girl seems to be enough now.
Christian G
08-16-16, 13:31
Is it obligatory to take at least one A+ girl at EdenClub? No.
Which other places offer threesomes? Thanks guys!You can look massage shop like Snow White, Tulip, Mango, and others. Or going in some freelancers spot like Beergarden, talk to the girls and explain well what you want.
Talking about Saphan Kwai, I was just there about 2 weeks ago when in Bangkok for a flight connection.
D ted is the biggest shop, it has around 50-100 girls every night according to papasan. But this shop for me is always frustrating experience, because every time I saw someone of interest, she is always booked or waiting for regulars, seems like occasional visitors like me never get these few nice ones. Also D ted waiters always constantly pressure us foreign customers to buy more food more drinks. So I always ended up spending around 500-1000 for all the snacks, peanuts, fruits, beers, ice buckets, wet towels, exclude lady sitting fees. So it is in fact more pricier at the end compare to Soi Cow.
Rainbow always has a few nice pretty girls, but these few nice girls in this shop are always playing hard to get, some really choose their customers, some don't go out at all, a few years ago I pulled a nice girl from Rainbow for a very expensive LT after 4 tries in a span of about 6 months. I probably won't waste time like that nowadays.
There are a few more shops, there is one called Bai Tong across street from Rainbow, it has no English sign, it had a few nice young ones before, but this trip the level was bad, I eventually got my pay bar from here last trip, 2000 plus 300 room fee plus 800 drinks, food, sitting fee, 300 tip for lap dance touching. So it ain't much cheaper than Soi Cow or Nana, and I felt the level is also getting worse here as a whole.
For u and Chat, also can be fun late hours, most girls are open to some heavy flirting and can also do some lap dance for some tips, but papasan said some night they don't do wild things anymore, because of the political atmosphere, RCA 1 and 2 are closed for renovation on this visit. I still won't make this place as a regular hang out. But would still check it out occasionally.Thanks to you and BKK Dog for the info. Mackin and I only went to T Det. Perhaps we need to try some others, you guys mentioned, and I am sure we will shortly.
D Ted is a Typo. Its actually Thee Det or T Det for short (sounds exactly like Tea Debt) which in Thai means the place that is marvellous or splendid. As you can see, I know Thai language quite well enough so conversation with girls having no English is not a problem. My GF does not speak English either. Its difficult for me when she switches to a dialect, though, just to tease me. I will be able to read the signs in Thai as well, so I can find Bai Tong no problem.
I did find T Det a bit frustrating in that could not really get to the best girls like I do in more easily Crazy House. Also place is just too big to be able to see the girls, even though they rotate to different stages. The best girl maybe far away, and be quickly booked by regulars, before a newcomer gets any chance at all. I also prefer to drink only (and not even alcohol LOL), and not eat the rubbishy "Gap Gaem". I suppose nuts to nibble on are O.K. I suppose Mackin and I did order some sort of token food plate. Can't remember exactly what it was.
Overall I am agreeing that T Det was not really memorable at all, and hence I did not go back. In fact I did not take a girl either. Probably as could not get to any of the top 4 or 5 girls for looks to my taste, I probably was not motivated to take second best. I did get a lap dance, but wasn't really my thing, since I am used to naked girls wriggling around on my lap, trying to make me hot for them.
Any advice which days are best and which smaller place has some nice natural models? You guys probably remember I am not a sillies fan nor like obvious nose jobs much. I probably should wait for Mackin to arrive here which is indeed very imminent.
About the girls in Sephan Kwai. You will see Thai girls with a mix of Vietnamese, Laos, and Burmese girls. Some will dance on stage while others will just sit and wait to be introduced to a customer. If you are not a regular, you should wait to be introduced by the Moma Son to the girls. They will constantly bring a few to meet you. You can choose to sit with her and if you change your mind, it's easy to ask them for another girl. Mileage varies on your Thai skills and personality. The following pictures will be in the order of my post. *Sorry guys, my photos are too large, I will need to resize them first.I gather you are saying that a high standard of politeness is required, and to not act too aggressively in try to get the girl? I suppose my normal behavior, when I see a stunner in Cowboy is to just give her the signal straight off, or if she is not watching, I usually move to where she is to make sure she can't miss me, before some other guy gets there. LOL Sometimes does not work out when girl already has a customer. Perhaps I need to be just a little more laid back in Thai dominated territory? LOL. Waiting for introductions is not quite my usual thing. I will have to politely put up with the introductions to many girls of no interest. Perhaps I can point out to Mamasan which girls I like the look of, so as not to bypass her. In Cowboy or Nana I normally do not require mamasans at all. I sort of regard them as a price negotiating assistant that is quite unnecessary for me, and can be even annoying.
I suppose I give the wrong impression. I normally take a lot of time to choose a girl, unless she is the known target already, or unless she is just so superior, that I know any delay could be curtains. So I can be very slow or very fast. Depends on the girl standard and the amount of competition. After sitting with a girl or two I sometimes change my mind and like someone else. Chemistry is not always there. Even chemistry does not guarantee a good time.
Shin Shin & Bkk Dog, and any others with Saphan Kwai experience.
I did manage to locate Bai Tong Club with the blue sign opposite Rainbow (on Google maps):
https://goo.gl/maps/5QMEAmcSGJA2
What order of priority would you rate these clubs (roughly in order from the BTS as you go in) for suitability to Farangs used to Cowboy and Nana, and looking for GFE beautiful models more so than pornstars (LOL):
Rainbow.
Bai Tong (opposite).
T Det.
Harlem Music (opposite).
RCA (T Det side).
The Best.
For U.
RCA 2.
Did I leave out any important ones?
I don't think I will want to try them all in one go.
One day I plan to have a look at the Thai entertainment venues on Udom Suk Sois 56 to 58, since its a lot closer to home, and maybe the Nirand Grand Soapy also on Udom Suk Soi 103. I have passed these areas on a motorcycle plenty of times. Saphan Kwai is a long distance away for me.
Gets a little boring for me, trying lots of new girls though, and always a punt how exciting it will be. Only my Darling girl so far, really worth a repeat. Even then, I don't feel the urgency of it. Don't understand how guys can keep changing girls all the time. I just don't have the desire to fuck every girl. They have to have something special.
Arriving in the rain, after a 14 hour flight exclusion transits wasn't the best of starts. The heat and humidity. Yukh!
But had done some pre-holiday work off Thai friendly and had a few lined up so no 1 slot was already set.
Met in my hotel lobby and true to the pics she had shared. WOW. But just shorter than imagined.
Upper middle class, own car, silicone boobs. That type of chick.
Went up to the hotel bar, had a drink and I just wanted to get hammering but then she wants to have dinner! So there I'm thinking I'm already 500 BH in on drinks and now she wants to eat.
I had had my fill earlier, so out we went and ate and lo and behold, she insisted she wants to pay! OK fine.
Came back to the hotel and the room and got all naughty like we had known each other forever and just met. Showered and started in there and spend the next 2 hours romping all over the room.
Boy was I tired after that! Thankfully she was too, as she had flown in from some business from Phuket. Her bags were in the car! WOW.
Cleaned up a bit, walked her down and out and escorted her to her car parked some 50 m away. Kiss kiss. Bye bye.
What a wonderful GFE and to think it was off Thai friendly! Already rescheduled to meet on Fri night.
So wake up after poor sleep. Jetlag definitely kicked in and all the booze on the way in pounding as a headache! What a start to the day full of meetings.
In the horrendous traffic off to meetings that only saw me get back at 630 pm thanks to more horrendous traffic.
Anyways, had been chatting to another girl off Thai friendly. Turns out this one works at some massage place in Suk33, but all the same a stunner. Not the bag of bones thin type but with some meat on her and big boobs au natural. A generous D-cup.
So she agrees to come over for 3000 BHT for 2 hours. Am tired anyway so why struggle on the hunt I thought. Arranged to meet at 9 and 930 she tells me she at bar. Traffic again!
One look and I wasn't disappointed. Dressed as that casual but sexy girl next door you always wanted to bang!
Off to the room and she prepares the Nuru as I had requested. Wow. What a job she did of it. Great massage. Ending up in some very slippery wild sex. Then to the shower. And we get to the bed and she breaks out oil for a round 2 massage! Just does my hands and feet as they didn't get nuru attention! Never heard that excuse but it was definitely what the body needed and I didn't complain! 2 and a half hours in and I think she's getting ready to go and she says she wants more sex before she goes! Did anyone complain? Not me! Wham. Had another session and showered up again and she lovingly washed the oil off me.
Paid her the 3000 + 500 tip because she truly deserved it. She showed me pics of girls she works with and I've chosen one who she thinks I will enjoy for tomorrow and speaks good English!
So lets see how tomorrow goes. Now I go to sleep on a messy bed that smells nuru gel!
Most new bars in Nana have been bombing out badly. However we find the resurrection of Billboard. I visited about 3 months ago and had to admit a huge improvement with the revamp.
Now I saw the Stickman article claiming it is the best Nana Bar: http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2015/Billboard-Nana-Plaza.htm.
Stickman's article includes photos of the girls. Not many were to my taste only one or two would I possibly choose.
Today was the return visit. Its a large dark room so doesn't look very full. However I guess doing moderate business. Just the atmosphere in the darkness is not quite as good as Crazy House, which may have the same number of customers and girls (or maybe less girls) but are packed in a little tighter.
The girls in the suds area were okay But not that pretty in the face so I quickly moved near to rotating stage. Here all the girls are "Coyotes" whether they wear Coyote type tops and short shorts or whether they wear bikinis. They all wore black just a trifle boring. Most girls have pretty good figures, as far as, the outfit allows them to be seen. Very few fatties. However really pretty faces fairly minimal, but most above average. I would generally say the same about Crazy House girls. So the girls in the two bars are quite comparable really, except that many in CH are fully nude.
I managed to spot 2 to 3 very cute faces. One was number 768. The other had no number. Slightly shorter and slightly cuter. Turned out she was a newbie of just two days. Number 8xx I don't remember, since the number was missing. As the stage rotated she stared into space and only caught my glance for a second on one occasion. Some guys say to never choose a girl who does not show that she wants you. I don't agree with this in all circumstances. She did not really look at any customers, but did not look unhappy. My assessment was she was just to shy to play up to the customers, a common thing. No matter to me. I liked her look. White skin, cute little upturned nose, small waist but curving out to the thigh, ass looked okay Even if covered by shorts. Tits too well covered to really assess properly. Big eyes (or so I thought. Big contact lenses LOL).
I had to go hunt for her in the dark when she got off the stage, in order to call her for a drink. She was very friendly no sign of reluctance. So was time to forget her initial lack of attention to customers. Name was Tukataa (meaning doll) and it was appropriate to her very cute looks. Age 20. She did not know much English. So Thai conversation. Chemistry was getting really good, so no thought of releasing her. She stayed with me up till the shows. First was a Cabaret type show typical of Long Gun in former times, and including the blonde spiky haired Long Gun girl, forget the name right now. 2nd show was lesbian but not as good as Suzi Wong Lesbian shows as girls never got the knickers completely off.
By this time Tukataa was giving me very passionate tongue kissing full on in the bar and my jeans were getting very tight. She was not totally without experience having worked one month in Bangkok Bunnies, however she claimed she went "off" with customers fairly sparsely.
Bar fine for Coyotes was just 700 Baht. They are not really Coyotes in any way. They do not dance like Coyotes. Just glorified bargirls. Price was not discussed at all, which is common for me. Girls must asses me as a nice guy unlikely to be stingy. Took her to DI Place ST Hotel. Naked her figure did not look quite as good but still nice enough except tits smaller than expected. Small mummy type tits (just slightly shrunken and very long nipples). She had no stretch marks on belly but I still guessed from the tits she must have had a baby.
On the bed the passionate kissing continued, and as soon as I stopped that she dived down to give me BBBJ which was a very good attempt at deep throat. Very few girls can swallow it all but she came close enough. She enjoyed the DATY a lot, and seemed to be able to orgasm during normal sex as well. The most responsive girl I had for the last week. I changed to some other positions and finished in doggy. No pornstar stuff. Her face was very pretty with only defect being eye teeth displaced forward a little, giving a slight vampire look. No big deal for me. She had longish very silky pussy Bush, so soft it was not a problem, but I guess she has never trimmed.
So face scores an 8, body 6. 5 (tits the weak point), BBBJ 7, GFE kissing 9 and sex scores an 8. 5. I definitely enjoyed the kissing and sex a lot so a must repeat pretty girl. Only one tat and no piercings. Smokes occasionally but not detectable after teeth brushing. She claimed to come from Buriram but did not look like a Buriram girl at all. Perhaps because one of her parents is from Uttaradit in the North. I would say her look is more like from that area, similar to an ex GF from Uttaradit, but cuter nose.
Am I hooked on the bar? Not quite. I still prefer CH where can see what is happening better. I still have a few untried girls at CH I would like to do. However I certainly could miss the fabulous GFE from Tukataa, given she has really pretty face and body quite good, if not perfect. So will return. She was my best session for the week based on looks, attitude, and GFE combination. Acts very eager to please. Previously worked serving/selling food in Central Lat Prao department store complex. I lost no time to get her contact number, unlike others tried this week.
Is Billboard the best bar in Nana? Not too sure, but cannot argue. I have been willing to stay there longer than most Nana bars, but still lacks the excitement factor of party vibe can get from CH. I like Mercury but only for Palm and Noi. If those two girls are not there, then Mercury becomes a complete bore for me. So could well be Billboard has best overall standard of girls, given my dislike for fake stuff.
So I think if you visit any Nana bars at all, Billboard on top floor left is worth a visit. I am not going to rave about it though. A little too dark for me. Has one suspect mamasan, fat one (ex Crazy House - ex Mercury) that cannot be trusted, make sure you have correct money for the BF. Billboard shits on Bangkok Bunnies for girl quality of looks in my opinion (unless you are a big fan of sillies). Of course still some fake noses and tits at Billboard, but natural girls also.
So face scores an 8, body 6. 5 (tits the weak point), BBBJ 7, GFE kissing 9 and sex scores an 8. 5. I definitely enjoyed the kissing and sex a lot so a must repeat pretty girl. Only one tat and no piercings. Smokes occasionally but not detectable after teeth brushing. She claimed to come from Buriram but did not look like a Buriram girl at all. Perhaps because one of her parents is from Uttaradit in the North. I would say her look is more like from that area, similar to an ex GF from Uttaradit, but cuter nose.
Just occurred to me that Tukataa looked like Selena Gomez a little, but with smaller nose and definitely smaller tits. So that is the type of look that appealed to me.
Selena reminds me of newbie Tukata (http://d1ya1fm0bicxg1.cloudfront.net/2015/10/promoted-media-optimized_561e8e624da70.jpg)
Selena (http://trendhaircolor.com/uploads/posts/2016-04/1461904665_selena-gomez-hair-color-2016-6.jpg) Last one (http://www.hdwallpapers.in/wallpapers/selena_gomez_109-1600x900.jpg)
Stickman suggests Billboard has girls that appeal to Farangs more than Japanese. No idea why that is. Perhaps the relatively plain hairstyles not at all like Bacarra. Certainly less girls with silicones than Bacarra or Bangkok Bunnies. Less nose jobs but still plentiful. There were several Asian customers attending. Called into CH later for a direct comparison between the girls. Hard to say the girls are very different from Billboard to Crazy House other than naked. Certainly CH has more Asian customers than Farangs, and yet it is very different from Baccara. CH was not absolutely full but was midnight at the time. Still busy enough. Strangely the blonde short haired dancer with big floppy felt hat, that performed in the Billboard Cabaret threesome show was now at CH as a customer with a very young handsome Asian guy. Since I have known her for probably 13 years from Long Gun, I guess she at least 30 still looking hot.
Kratae showed up at CH too, the slim very tight body girl with tan skin and short hair who looks like Rihanna. Have not seen her for a while. Got Oom 91 a little drunk so managed to get her top off to show the nice tits. Kratae and Oom would both be almost founding girls at Crazy House, 3 years ago. I think Crazy opened approx. June or July 2013.
Member #4591
08-19-16, 10:13
Just a heads up guys. Harlim and The Best go go's were shut down here last night. These were the two most foreigner friendly bars. They were shut down for the girls dancing naked, having foreign sex workers, and 2 foreign workers were caught working that were not age appropriate.
Just a heads up guys. Harlim and The Best go go's were shut down here last night. These were the two most foreigner friendly bars. They were shut down for the girls dancing naked, having foreign sex workers, and 2 foreign workers were caught working that were not age appropriate.Oh shit. I got there a bit too slow, in that I did not go yet. Naked dancing. Just what I wanted.
I thought I would spell differently again, just for variety, this time to show long vowel sounds.
Ages ago I took a girl from a place called something like Chat in Saphan Kwai. Price was something like 1800 baht all-in including the hotel room. She was nice looking but service was just standard. I found the constant pestering to buy food and then helping themselves to all the change for a 200+ baht 'tip' really off-putting so never went back. At the time the best bar was supposed to be Rainbow but the male waiters all seemed scared of me, even when I spoke Thai. I've never been back to the area since.
Please clear out you inbasket Thanks. .
So after a long day working serious stuff, I was a victim of the Thai traffic!
Over 2 hours for a 10 km ride is obscene! The 45 min we were hardly moving, so bailed out of the chauffeur van and walked 3 km to the hotel to reach at 730 pm.
Tired, heat sweat, long day, wasn't in the mood to go out hunting so option were shortlisted escort or a massage club I saw on the walk in. JC.
Decided to check out JC. OK line up, 2500 for the V class and 2300 for the S class and 1900 for the L ones. 90 min massage and sex with what you can see vs 5000-6000 for an escort I'm sure wasn't going to be as per her pictures! Opted to stay.
Picked a very naughty decent boobs one. V class "speak English". As we go to the room, she spoke almost nil English. But she was oh so cute. Either way 2500 would have been OK for a shag. Or if bad at that. For the massage I figured.
In the room and we naked. Wow. What a body. Claims she's only 19, you might not be wrong.
A tad nervous, but hell naughty. Kept fiddling with me body. Some foreplay, and OKish massage and then pomped the daylights out of her! Credit where due, she took it! Been with girls who just say no no no and stop. Showered, or better put, she washed me thoroughly and I left after over an hour.
All in, definitely worth the 2500 for OK massage and good sex. There's another nice boobed young gun then I won't mind trying!
Banana Boi
08-19-16, 15:36
Uncle V where are you?
Please clear out you inbasket Thanks. .He's too busy juggling all his girls!
RonnieMonger
08-20-16, 01:10
A periodic reminder about the Cayote Girl scam on Soi Cowboy. These are the girls in hot pants. They are the hottest looking and bars hire their services to lure you in. Most will let you bar fine them but many won't do anything with you after that. The bar fine is easily double that of the regular go go dancers. The bars need to get rid of them as it has spoiled the atmosphere. Don't sit with don't buy them drinks. You will waste your time and cash.
RonnieMonger
08-20-16, 04:39
I generally gave the threesomes away due to favouring the lovely Noo Dee who did not do threesomes and has retired now. Also my stamina to do marathon sessions with two or three girls declined with old age. One girl seems to be enough now.Noo Dee was definitely one of my favorites. Political climate resulted in many SC bars banning Lao and Khmer girls like Noo Dee. Li (pron Lie) an ex-Suzy Wonger was also great. I hear she is working in Nana now.
Those Saphan Kwai bars being raided has hit the national press.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Owners-of-entertainment-venues-face-host-of-charge-30293348.html
Those Saphan Kwai bars being raided has hit the national press.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Owners-of-entertainment-venues-face-host-of-charge-30293348.htmlAnyone would think this is a bible bashing country like the USA. Charged with pornographic displays and prostitution.
I love the naked body. Its beautiful. It is not pornographic. LOL. Prostitution is a needed profession that will ever go away. Why foreign girls can't work here is more a political thing. Assumed to be part of trafficking, but not necessarily. Its mostly about Thailand having the right international image, I guess. I guess there has to be some age limit set. That one we are not permitted to debate here (due to USA influence on the forum I guess).
If the shops are not using pimps, "managing" the girls or controlling their lives and taking most of the money, then I have no issues with these shops at all. If girls are free to leave if they don't like it any more, I don't see the problems. Of course I don't know the situations in detail, never having talked to the girls there. Its girls compelled to work as a prostitute and lacking the freedom to make their own choice that is the real problem. Of course, all of us are compelled to work, to get money to live, and naturally everyone takes the employment that provides the most money for the least work, assuming its not completely illegal or intolerable.
In the current environment, all shops are very unwise to have girls with no ID card proving they are Thai and a suitable age. I guess hill tribe type girls without proper Thai status are discriminated against same as girls less than 18.
So many women's livelihoods are based on being able to sell sex to support their families. I think the government should be cracking down on pimps controlling women, and the establishments that support the pimp middlemen. Girls with a single Thai boy leaching off them, is a problem that probably cannot be dealt with, but I would like to see the Thai boys kept well clear of the bar areas. I hate seeing them hanging around waiting for their girls.
The illegality of selling sex and foreign workers, is a cause of problems rather than solving them.
Member #4591
08-20-16, 10:35
Those Saphan Kwai bars being raided has hit the national press.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Owners-of-entertainment-venues-face-host-of-charge-30293348.htmlThe Nation is a local Thai media outlet.
Member #4591
08-20-16, 10:36
A periodic reminder about the Cayote Girl scam on Soi Cowboy. These are the girls in hot pants. They are the hottest looking and bars hire their services to lure you in. Most will let you bar fine them but many won't do anything with you after that. The bar fine is easily double that of the regular go go dancers. The bars need to get rid of them as it has spoiled the atmosphere. Don't sit with don't buy them drinks. You will waste your time and cash.How is this a scam?
RonnieMonger
08-20-16, 11:40
How is this a scam?A scam in the sense that, while you and I know Coyote Girls are more eye candy than anything else, visitors to Bangkok would not easily be aware that they are doing a different job from the other go go dancers that they are dancing next to on the stage. I know of at least two guy who didn't know the distinction, paid the double-bar fine, expensive drinks, etc. , get 'their' girls out of the bar only to be told they won't perform sexually with the guys. One of them made it all the way to his room before he found out. A few months ago on a weekend night, one of the bars opposite Tilac Bar had only two Go Go dancers working and the rest of the place was filled with Coyote.
If you know your way around, and yes I do, then you can still pull out some regular hotties. But the Coyotes have really messed up Soi Cowboy IMO.
A periodic reminder about the Cayote Girl scam on Soi Cowboy. These are the girls in hot pants. They are the hottest looking and bars hire their services to lure you in. Most will let you bar fine them but many won't do anything with you after that. The bar fine is easily double that of the regular go go dancers. The bars need to get rid of them as it has spoiled the atmosphere. Don't sit with don't buy them drinks. You will waste your time and cash.Today I passed Soi Cowboy before going home at 11 pm I looked at all the Coyote girls. Only one or two outside Rio were exceptionally pretty. Many shops had ordinary looking girls. One girl sitting outside Bacarra grabbed my attention. Very pretty with black hair. I could not help but say she was not at all typical for Bacarra. Nose looked real and hair was just long straight black, no fancy stuff. She looked damn good, but I had already taken a girl earlier. Not a Coyote girl. She outshone the Coyotes on Cowboy in evidence at the time.
Coyote girls wearing hot pants makes no difference to me. Its about the quality of the face and figure.
My favorite Coyote for looks, has left Mercury bar and now works in a nearby restaurant I am told. So I will have to start eating there. LOL.
I had a quick look in Crazy House but the line up pretty weak. Just like previous Saturday was very weak. Other days seem better to me. I was told one factor was all the young foreign girls (non Thai) were absent due to a known police visit today. Girls were nude now so I presume the police visit had occurred earlier. I am told there are no longer any girls too young working, since that is just too risky in the modern climate, even if normally police visits are known beforehand.
Today did not want to spend big, a bit thrifty, so I started out passing various Oily shops and looking at girls out front or through the window. Passed through Soi 24/1 first, nothing appealed. Even Can Cam girls were horrible, a place I used to frequent. Next went to Soi 24. Girls in front of Addict and Orient were all ugly tonight where I have seen pretty on occasions. Mango has a nice looking girl outside, tall and slim, face a little angular but good enough. So I was interested only to find out Aom was just there to look at Mango and had not decided to start work there. My regular Fern was not there. Aem was there but did not want to risk another hickey.
Had a look in Soi 33. None of the girls outside places were anything special. Dream Heaven line up was very weak. Where were the pretty ones on their web site. Did not look in Mitu. Did not like the web pics of girls. Plenty of Japanese massage or Karaoke places had ugly girls out front.
Went to check Ann at Loly-tas. Seems she doesn't work there any more. June is not at Bongkot any more. Next thought about Checking Annies, and failing anything there, some bars, however passing the Nana car park at about 9 PM I was quite surprised. I spotted 4 pretty girls in a short time, and then had the problem which one did I like. Gee was sitting, so although very white skin and pretty face, I could not see if her figure was good. A short blonde looked pretty cute, although slightly flat nose and chin sticking out just slightly but body looked good (clothed). Next looked at two tall girls Jum and Nim (friends). Both quite pretty. Nim was approx. 170 cm and quite curvy but still slimmish type. Big tits looked natural. I had to check her carefully to be sure not a ladyboy at that height. Once I heard Jum and Nim talking, was convinced, okay She is a girl and has natural expansive (wide) big tits, C cup I guess, no silicone. More than one girl was giving me a wink and a nod, but I selected Nim, and we went to DI Place S. T. Hotel in sub soi with Jools on the corner.
Price was not discussed. Nim is an amateur, not being there that often. Needs money since her husband got killed in a car accident. Maid salary is not quite cutting it. She wore Loose jeans shorts over her dress. Slightly strange attire. Her figure looked better once she took the clothes off. She told me her age was 35, where I would have guessed 25. Well preserved. Black hair with two braided pony tails. Apparently has two kids but no sign of belly or ass stretch marks, and her tits were full not saggy. So a mummy with a decidedly non-mummy looking body. Slimmish curvy but not skinny at all. Nice ass no sag.
Turns out her tits are still lactating, and I got to have a taste. Sweeter than normal milk. Lovely big soft tits with some milk. Baby is 7 months she said.
Service? Well I did not require service other than kissing and a BBBJ. The BBBJ was very soft and slow as per my specification. She had a very soft hand touch on my balls too. No the. T. But very enjoyable. She is not used to giving BBBJ so I had pity on her jaw and did not make her go too long with it. She said her last sex was at least 2 weeks ago, maybe more, she had had some customers that wanted a Thai massage only (no idea why LOL). As a consequence she orgasmed very quickly from DATY and got a 2nd pop during sex in spoon position. I got my pop in doggy. Despite the babies, pussy was tight enough. Stitched up by the doctor I guess. Pussy not bald but well short trimmed. Pretty pussy for me.
She was quite talkative in Thai and very honest, no bullshit type of girl. I liked her a lot. Not full on kissing like my Billboard girl, timid but nice enough tongue kissing allowed.
I score her 8 points for the body, 7 for the face, 8 for attitude and "go with the flow" and 7 for GFE. For service just 6 points, as a bit on passive side. Nothing too special but good BBBJ. I probably gave her good service more-so. LOL.
This was a cheap alternative to bargirls and very satisfying. No barfine or drinks to pay and cheaper as well. 300 Baht for the S. T. Room. Certainly would take her again no problem. Collected her contact number. She had to keep working diligently as needs money (that is why she is there) despite having a baby to raise, so she has to go home early she said, e. G. Midnight. I can help by fucking her again soon.
Maybe I could take her friend Jum as well next time who was also good looking.
What a surprise to find ugly girls everywhere at Oilies and front of shops and then to find some much better lookers on the street in Soi 4 Nana Carpark area. I have said previously that the standard of freelancers in this area has been improving and I would say is better than many years earlier when I had checked out this location. Perhaps due to economic times being tough. I asked Nim at the end what was the going rate for freelancers on Soi 4 for a S.T. She said 1500 for S.T. Others here can say if that is correct or not, or if they can negotiate less, but I thought she was an honest girl but inexperienced girl. She has only had a Farang customer about 4 times total and one young Japanese student who chose her for the very long legs. Nim was probably the tallest non-ladyboy in the area, in fact I doubt if the ladyboys, mostly on opposite side of the road, were any taller.
Nim mentioned she gets teased a lot, especially by very young Farangs, who think she is a ladyboy, and love to lift her dress (hence she wore shorts over the top of the dress). I guess I had enough experience to see she was not. Its not the first time I have taken very tall girls in Thailand.
So I never made it to Annies. Any one of a few freelancers could have got me today. After time with Nim, I had a quick look for my favourite Coyote who was not there, and then went to the Charoen Pharmacy to see about medications. Was about 10.30PM, but they were still open.
The Nation is a local Thai media outlet.I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Are you claiming it is not a Thai national newspaper, e.g. , that its distribution is restricted to only one area of Thailand, e.g. , Bangkok? It's banner--"Thailand's Independent Newspaper"--seems to indicate otherwise.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Are you claiming it is not a Thai national newspaper, e.g. , that its distribution is restricted to only one area of Thailand, e.g. , Bangkok? It's banner--"Thailand's Independent Newspaper"--seems to indicate otherwise.Maybe you try to read too much into a simple word.
I think "local", just means its Thai owned and other counties are not involved. Headquarters would obviously be Bangkok somewhere.
Maybe you try to read too much into a simple word.
I think "local", just means its Thai owned and other counties are not involved. Headquarters would obviously be Bangkok somewhere.Nope The Dogguy's post was trying to correct W*man's statement, "Those Saphan Kwai bars being raided has hit the national press," by stating "The Nation is a local Thai media outlet. " That response was nonsensical, particularly coming from someone who habitually complains about other member's posts being a waste of time.
The Nation is a local Thai media outlet.Incorrect. "The Nathion" is a national newspaper and can be and is purchased internationally.
Nope The Dog guy's post was trying to correct W*man's statement, "Those Saphan Kwai bars being raided has hit the national press," by stating "The Nation is a local Thai media outlet. " That response was nonsensical, particularly coming from someone who habitually complains about other member's posts being a waste of time.Well its always dangerous to try to read the mind of the guy posting, beyond what is stated. I read his post and thought nothing at all, like I had no clue as to his purpose for posting rather than thinking "nonsensical". I never post anything so short myself. Did not occur to me he was arguing with *****man, at the time. I mean no one would think that the newspaper and its TV station confine themselves to Bangkok. So nothing wrong with "national press". I don't watch the news avidly, so don't know their biases if any.
If you know your way around, and yes I do, then you can still pull out some regular hotties. But the Coyotes have really messed up Soi Cowboy IMO.Not just Cowboy. Nana is starting to have several bars with "Coyotes" as well. I guess its just an attempt to have more "class" and more beauties. Some fuck, some do not, and some officially do not but may if they like the customer. My favorite Coyote Palm was in the doubtful category, stunning looks. Officially no sex. Guys would BF her to take her dancing to RCA, or out to dinner. They would wait to a late hour when the barfine reduced. I did not want to pay the BF for nothing, so never got a chance to find out if she might fuck in some circumstances. I just bought her a few drinks and chatted. Maybe to be followed up again. She has moved to a restaurant for work, so probably has one or more sugar daddies now, requiring her not to work in the bar.
Billboard is full of "Coyotes" that are no different to normal bargirls except maybe for the outfit. In each case it is wise to check if the girl is up for sex or not, but they seem to be available for sex in billboard for BF of 700. In Cowboy best not to use the "Arab's" (Iranian's) bars where girls are not available for sex (officially). I recently read that he bought Rawhide to add to his chain of Rio, Sahara, Kiss, Deja Vu, Midnight, did I leave any out? Fortunately still a few bars left, and some variety of style. Cowboy 2 has Coyote's available for sex, but I did not find any of them to be worth the steeper barfine at the time. Overpricing themselves too I think. Mostly just ordinary girls. Some of the non Coyotes can be much more stunning than the Coyotes. Dollhouse had a about 3 or 4 Coyotes available for sex, and I took one of them twice. She was good the first time, and reticent the 2nd time (pussy too small and scared of dick and long duration). They were better looking girls and only distinction was they did not dance nude, instead in Coyote outfit, and sometimes dance at front of the shop.
I don't know how old the non-sex Coyotes have to be. Never checked that.
Girls at Billboard have a salary of 500 Baht per night. With so many girls to pay, and too many waiting staff, not sure how the bar can be profitable. I guess they hope a significant number of girls will get barfined in addition to the money from drinks sales.
Member #4591
08-21-16, 07:34
The Nation is a local Thai media outlet.My point was that the making of this story in the Nation is no big deal since the news outlet is in Thailand. Nothing more and nothing less. No correction of the original OP's post. Wow!
Member #4591
08-21-16, 07:38
Nope The Dogguy's post was trying to correct W*man's statement, "Those Saphan Kwai bars being raided has hit the national press," by stating "The Nation is a local Thai media outlet. " That response was nonsensical, particularly coming from someone who habitually complains about other member's posts being a waste of time.Who are you to explain what my posts mean? I had no idea you followed my content so closely that you can now interpret the meaning of all my posts. That's a little creepy! LOL.
Member #4591
08-21-16, 07:57
A scam in the sense that, while you and I know Coyote Girls are more eye candy than anything else, visitors to Bangkok would not easily be aware that they are doing a different job from the other go go dancers that they are dancing next to on the stage. I know of at least two guy who didn't know the distinction, paid the double-bar fine, expensive drinks, etc. , get 'their' girls out of the bar only to be told they won't perform sexually with the guys. One of them made it all the way to his room before he found out. A few months ago on a weekend night, one of the bars opposite Tilac Bar had only two Go Go dancers working and the rest of the place was filled with Coyote.
If you know your way around, and yes I do, then you can still pull out some regular hotties. But the Coyotes have really messed up Soi Cowboy IMO.That's just complete stupidity on the part of the two guys you know. Whether you are in Thailand or elsewhere in the world, you should negotiate the services before you pay. What's odd about the situation you described is that these 2 guys never inquired about the price of ST / LT, the girls never mentioned it either, and your descriptions insinuates that these 2 guys were expecting the bar fine to also cover the cost of the sex act in itself.
I'm sorry but I'm going to call you out on your post by saying you are just complaining about the coyote girls in the bars and just made these stories up to support your complaint. Complete and utter BS I'm sorry to say. No offence intended but there are other ways to express your discontent with the coyote bar scene than to make up stories.
The more realistic version would probably go something like this. Said customer enters a bar and spots a beautiful coyote girl. After spending hours sitting, flirting, and buying many lady drinks, he inquiries about the bar fine and ST / LT rates. Said lady quotes a 2 or 3 K bar fine and a 6 k ST rate or says she does not go out with customers. Said customer then leaves the bar angrily thinking he was scammed.
And the morrow of the story is: when you assume.
Who are you to explain what my posts mean? I had no idea you followed my content so closely that you can now interpret the meaning of all my posts. That's a little creepy! LOL.My ex wife could read my mind. She always knew exactly what I was thinking, in a bad way, always looking for the worst possible. Problem was I was not thinking what she supposed at all. I had nicer thoughts. She was always looking for a negative aspect of everything. Yet she was absolutely certain she was right and would get angry. I would not understand what she was angry about. Naturally we got divorced in the end, as could not have a conversation for any length of time, before she misunderstood something badly in the wrong way, and yet we were both native English speakers.
I thought there must be something wrong with me, until I got a new girlfriend, not a native English speaker. When the same misunderstandings did not occur often, despite struggles with another language, I realised, no it was not exactly my problem, but my wife's. Only the speaker knows the real meaning of the phrase, intended.
Today I still have problems when using Thai unskilfully that GF will misunderstand taking what I say too literally, or extrapolating too much, rather than checking my intended meaning. She should know my character and that I am not thinking something too nasty, even if I say slightly the wrong thing, due to language skills not matching my exact thought. Fortunately it is not too often, like was with the ex wife.
If the meaning of a post is not Crystal clear or does not make good logical sense, we can always ask the writer what he really intended to mean. Plenty of times I got an angry response from someone thinking I was criticising them heavily, when I did not intend that. A reply to a post, is not always a disagreement or argument. It is just a comment perhaps adding something extra. Sometimes we ask questions. These should be considered as just simple questions seeking more information, rather than being assumed to be argumentative.
Its also O.K. if different writers have different opinions too. Some writers don't see the point in paying good money to fuck beautiful girls with limited skills. Yet I like doing exactly that. I don't see the point in fucking ugly girls no matter how skilful they are, even if they are freebies. I might be just strange but it just does not excite me enough. A doer more than a receiver. Dream girls for me. I rarely just lie there or just sit there and get serviced. I really try to get girls to enjoy if possible. Some clearly don't (and I label them dick scared - LOL). So very professional types are also not for me, if they cannot deviate from the normal session procedures.
There are posters to develop a track record of always posting something negative. However BKK Dog is not one of those. I do recall the odd Grumpy post. LOL but did not understand his reasons.
Habitual shit dumpers do exist like Luvpuss comes to mind. Don't know if ever posted anything useful at all. Then there was Francisass who had to have a negative "put down" response to every guy posting a positive experience on the Annies thread, which I labelled "the Vendetta". Did he ever post a positive review of anything?
Asian Rain
08-21-16, 09:51
A scam in the sense that, while you and I know Coyote Girls are more eye candy than anything else, visitors to Bangkok would not easily be aware that they are doing a different job from the other go go dancers that they are dancing next to on the stage.Very good point to make RonnieMonger. Not every newbie is aware of this bait-and-lure tactic. And you won't find any of these girls wearing tags or signage that indicate their limitations. And the bars don't post any self help book "don't make assumptions about our employees" signs. Point of this site is to help each other, so you don't really need to explain and defend everything to an over-opinionated member. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.
Whether you are in Thailand or elsewhere in the world, you should negotiate the services before you pay. What's odd about the situation you described is that these 2 guys never inquired about the price of ST / LT, the girls never mentioned it either, and your descriptions insinuates that these 2 guys were expecting the bar fine to also cover the cost of the sex act in itself.
I must be weird in that I often do not inquire about services or negotiate a price before going with a girl as with my freelancer last night. However if I say we are going for "Chua Khrao" (short time) it is at least very clear that my purpose is for sex. With a fee not negotiated, the girl knows that she will have to give me a good time to get paid a significant amount. If a girl quotes money amount, I will probably want to know more about what that includes: how much time for sex at least, and does she kiss if I did not get any kissing as yet. I probably should have asked if my last Thermae girl would kiss. I did not realise her microbe phobia. On the other hand the price never was discussed either.
I certainly don't assume automatically that a Coyote girl will fuck. It is generally known that the "Arab's" bar girls probably do not fuck officially.
If a girl does not fuck, and I ask to barfine her, I never experienced any girl not warning me that she does not want to go for sex, that I can remember. So never been "scammed" in this way as such. I can recall cases where girl suddenly did not want to fuck any more once the hard on was seen though (and she was naked as well). Then the legs would seize up and make fucking almost impossible.
Some guys would say they were scammed to have bought all these drinks for a girl and then find out she does not fuck, or not today due to pain or her period, however buying drinks is not considered a guarantee that you can barfine the girl. The girl could even be waiting for her regular customer to arrive. Most girls would warn me if that was the case, but not guaranteed since she needs to seel drinks to meet her monthly quotas. Most Coyote girls are expected (by the boss) to sell a lot of drinks just for the pleasure of their company, in order to justify the girl's monthly salary. LOL Those that think this is a scam, need to stay away from the real Coyote girls. It is known that they are not sex providers (in general).
I don't stay away completely, but only entertain a very small number of selected superior girls. No interest in average girls. I have only entered the Arab's bars for very short times. I lost interest when the best girls were not coming to me, otherwise occupied. Any old average girl is not good enough for me. Why waste the money?
I try to write a lot about Coyotes, the real Coyotes and the "fake" ones, so others know what to expect, and don't get surprises. When I first came to Thailand, there was no forum to learn from. I did have an experienced buddy to tell me a few things, but he was incredibly stingy type, so always going for the lowest class cheapest, and did not like the same types of girls as me. His girls were all fat, for my taste. He liked big soft cuddly girls with big tits. There was only one girl ever we both liked, obviously not too skinny and big tits.
So its Friday, business finished with some half fancy dinner for all.
Its Friday, so everything seemed to be buzzing, including that horrendous traffic.
Took a tuktuk taxi (novelty factor) and sat thru heat and pollution to Soi cowboy! Finally here.
In all honesty, I felt like a fish with all hooks around me LOL.
Thought ID go check out Nana plaza, and this time took a motorbike taxi. I didn't die on the way!
Get there and I get the same vibe. After being scared by some lady boys, I decide to go check the area out.
There's a bar there as you get out to the right, noisy but good music. Saw this cutie smiling hard at me as I got in. Must be 20-25, fair, slim but seemingly nice boobs. I Reciprocated.
Got a drink and chilled at the edge looking at the street and she's smiling at me again. So I leave and tell her I'm hungry and going to eat. Want to join?
Lo and behold! She said yes. Overall English was OK and now I got her and I said I don't eat street food. Lets go in taxi near my hotel. This was the "is she interested" trick question. She says yes again.
As I flag a cab, I'm wondering what I'm getting into! Anyway get near there and there's a McD so got some munchies (yes yes, I ate McD in Thailand! And paid for hers too.
As I'm now thinking how to bring up the sex, there's this fake bag seller. I buy for you? Yes. A 1500 knock off of something I seemed to snare her. Now we go hotel? Yes she said.
Wow. Didn't think ID score like this. Its about 2 am when we walked in. And showered and had good sex twice before sleeping. Got woken up at 7 being told I go now. And all I could do was pretend I cared and gave her a goodbye and 200 for taxi. A night of great sex for a 1500 baht bag, McD and a 200 taxi fare? I love BKK.
That's just complete stupidity on the part of the two guys you know. Whether you are in Thailand or elsewhere in the world, you should negotiate the services before you pay. .My 2 cents worth.
1. If I sit with a girl and she rubs my leg and touches my cock for 15 minutes and that costs me a drink then I don't consider that a waste of money. I actually think that's good value. It would be annoying if I bought a drink and all I got was chit chat, but that would be a 1-drink mistake because I wouldn't buy her a second.
2. I've left with girls without me or them asking a price. In these instances the girls have probably been able to judge that the punter is a decent guy who is going to look after her. One recent girl just said after 30 minutes of touching me something like: "you can afford to compensate me can't you". I pulled out a wad of $100 notes for her to see, her smile widened and I quickly put them back into another pocket in my shorts that is hard to find and she didn't notice. In the morning I rolled up a bunch of notes in my hand and handed it to her. She didn't open it in front of me and she was obviously happy because we chatted on an app for the next few weeks. While she was travelling with some lucky rich dude. But then she said she fucked a DJ for free, I got annoyed and I deleted her.
I am in a budget tour to BKK and Pattaya, Could any one please advice me, how to reach Sukhmvit road from Don Muang Airport, what is the best mode of transport, please inbox me if possible.
GermanShepherd
08-21-16, 19:10
Can someone help with meaning or Coyote type girls being referred too?
Robert Long
08-21-16, 20:22
I am in a budget tour to BKK and Pattaya, Could any one please advice me, how to reach Sukhmvit road from Don Muang Airport, what is the best mode of transport, please inbox me if possible.Just take a Taxi. Pay the driver the toll and his meter. Always make them use the meter.
RL.
I am in a budget tour to BKK and Pattaya, Could any one please advice me, how to reach Sukhmvit road from Don Muang Airport, what is the best mode of transport, please inbox me if possible.Walk outside the airport, jump on an orange bus which will take you to the first bts stop (mo chit). Take the bts down to your hotel.
http://www.thaizer.com/travel-in-thailand/airport-bus-service-to-and-from-bangkok-don-muang/
http://www.thelongestwayhome.com/travel-guides/thailand/maps/Bangkok-MRT-BTS-map.png
I am in a budget tour to BKK and Pattaya, Could any one please advice me, how to reach Sukhmvit road from Don Muang Airport, what is the best mode of transport, please inbox me if possible.Taxi Will be below 400. Most likely 350 all in.
Low Sukhumvit, I mean.
I am in a budget tour to BKK and Pattaya, Could any one please advice me, how to reach Sukhmvit road from Don Muang Airport, what is the best mode of transport, please inbox me if possible.If you have an arrival boarding card at DMK or departure boarding card for BKK, you are entitled to the free shuttle bus from DMK to BKK. I do not know where it departs from at DMK.
Member #4591
08-22-16, 02:30
Very good point to make RonnieMonger. Not every newbie is aware of this bait-and-lure tactic. And you won't find any of these girls wearing tags or signage that indicate their limitations. And the bars don't post any self help book "don't make assumptions about our employees" signs. Point of this site is to help each other, so you don't really need to explain and defend everything to an over-opinionated member. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.On ISG we have a couple of strange groups. The first group, the price police. This group will always criticize other posters about what they pay claiming there are ruining the market. The next, the scam police. This group claims that any encounter not going the way they hoped as a scam. They never communicate with the lady and assume everything. Everything is a scam to them and they are paranoid on a daily basis. This group should never visit SEA and should stay locked up in their safe little home country. Just sayin!
Just an impression update on the Japanese / Asian Only issue with most of the FLs (or most of the better looking ones) in Thermae.
As I have reported here I have had some very rewarding STs with 5 or so quite attractive FLs there in the past several months. Well, this past Saturday night around 9:30 pm a just arrived usa buddy of mine and I happened to be walking past Thermae and he said let's check out the place as he hadn't bothered to go in there for years.
Place was packed with FLs, the majority of them being young, early to mid 20s and above average in attractiveness vs the rest of the Bangkok P4 P scene, several well into the damned hot range. My buddy and I didn't buy ourselves a drink, we just cruised past the crowded line up on both sides of the bar, him trailing behind me a couple of steps. I have to say we were both met with huge smiles, reaching out gestures, nodding heads and the usual overt signs from virtually ALL of the girls we passed, the exceptions being rare enough to be counted in single digits and they were not even the better looking ones.
No, we didn't chat up any of the very, very eager interested parties because we were committed to heading elsewhere. But it sure seemed to me it would have been easy as rolling off a log to get any one of the better looking girls in Thermae on that particular night to agree to ST for the standard going rate of 2,000-2,500 baht. Now, whether or not that rate would buy me the level of service I require in general, I can't say because in this case I didn't stop to chat and ask any of them. But recent experience strongly suggests I would.
The basic profile for me and my buddy last Saturday night: I am a 63 year old Caucasian, weight proporttional to my height. My buddy is a 67 year old African American, a bit heavy for his height with a fairly prominent belly. Both of us were wearing long pants, he in slacks, me in jeans, real shoes not sandals, polo type shirts with collars and big, pleasant, inviting and sincere smiles for all the ladies.
Is it true that girls have to pay a fee to go in the Thermae? I heard this rumour. How much? For each re-entry? I assume this would make them charge a little more for the customer than Nana Carpark girls.
Is it true that girls have to pay a fee to go in the Thermae? I heard this rumour. How much? For each re-entry? I assume this would make them charge a little more for the customer than Nana Carpark girls.I haven't heard that. At least, the last girl I took from there who spoke English well enough did not say anything about it even though we chatted a bit about the time and cost of travel to and from Thermae for her based on where she lived. So it seems she might have mentioned it then. But that was a couple of months ago so it is possible to have happened since.
It was more packed with girls last Saturday night than I have seen it around the 9:30 pm timeframe for a long time.
I haven't heard that. At least, the last girl I took from there who spoke English well enough did not say anything about it even though we chatted a bit about the time and cost of travel to and from Thermae for her based on where she lived. So it seems she might have mentioned it then. But that was a couple of months ago so it is possible to have happened since.
It was more packed with girls last Saturday night than I have seen it around the 9:30 pm timeframe for a long time.I guess the girls aren't going to buy a lot of drinks. I recall there is a fee to use the toilet.
I agree with your assessment of early Saturday night, and that girls seemed Farang willing. I am 60 but look 50 to Thais. Not handsome but not the worst looking.
I have detected a general improvement in the freelancer scene, based on limited sampling, in terms of more good looking girls. I wonder if has anything to do with Government and Police crackdowns, or state of the economy. I wonder if would even find better lookers in the beer gardens. I really used to struggle to find anything on former visits to Biergarten. Could have been there at the wrong time or better girls were occupied with guys already.
Member #4591
08-22-16, 06:04
Just an impression update on the Japanese / Asian Only issue with most of the FLs (or most of the better looking ones) in Thermae.
As I have reported here I have had some very rewarding STs with 5 or so quite attractive FLs there in the past several months. Well, this past Saturday night around 9:30 pm a just arrived usa buddy of mine and I happened to be walking past Thermae and he said let's check out the place as he hadn't bothered to go in there for years.
Place was packed with FLs, the majority of them being young, early to mid 20s and above average in attractiveness vs the rest of the Bangkok P4 P scene, several well into the damned hot range. My buddy and I didn't buy ourselves a drink, we just cruised past the crowded line up on both sides of the bar, him trailing behind me a couple of steps. I have to say we were both met with huge smiles, reaching out gestures, nodding heads and the usual overt signs from virtually ALL of the girls we passed, the exceptions being rare enough to be counted in single digits and they were not even the better looking ones.
No, we didn't chat up any of the very, very eager interested parties because we were committed to heading elsewhere. But it sure seemed to me it would have been easy as rolling off a log to get any one of the better looking girls in Thermae on that particular night to agree to ST for the standard going rate of 2,000-2,500 baht. Now, whether or not that rate would buy me the level of service I require in general, I can't say because in this case I didn't stop to chat and ask any of them. But recent experience strongly suggests I would.
The basic profile for me and my buddy last Saturday night: I am a 63 year old Caucasian, weight proporttional to my height. My buddy is a 67 year old African American, a bit heavy for his height with a fairly prominent belly. Both of us were wearing long pants, he in slacks, me in jeans, real shoes not sandals, polo type shirts with collars and big, pleasant, inviting and sincere smiles for all the ladies.I think the Dog must pay a visit to Thermae, it's been too long!
Banana Boi
08-22-16, 06:11
Both of us were wearing long pants, he in slacks, me in jeans, real shoes not sandals, polo type shirts with collars and big, pleasant, inviting and sincere smiles for all the ladies.I think this helps in Thermae especially if you're not the Japanese variety. Thermae girls see you coming before you spot them. then again I saw a slobby Caucasian guy with a wife beater shirt talking to a hot Thermae girl.
Pretty sure no fee for girls at Thermae. How can anyone keep track?
I think this helps in Thermae especially if you're not the Japanese variety. Thermae girls see you coming before you spot them.
Pretty sure no fee for girls at Thermae. How can anyone keep track?I wear sandals. I just don't care enough to wear shoes and socks, however I do wear shirts with sleaves and not shorts. I don't see sandals putting the girls off too much. I don't pong like some Farangs though. Taking a shower and underarm deodorant matters.
I suppose guys won't know what girls pay to establishment just like most punters are not aware of what is the house take from a full fee up front at an Oily. I like to understand the price structures, especially when house takes are very high like in Annies, Dr. BJ, Loli-tas, etc.
The rumour about girl fee came from an unreliable source, so I need to check myself next time.
For guys, they do try to usher you straight over to buy a drink at the counter, before you even got to check out the talent.
Banana Boi
08-22-16, 06:22
Don't think the shoes matter. I meant clothing.
Pretty sure no fee for girls at Thermae. How can anyone keep track?Yes, it would be a logistical nightmare, wouldn't it. I didn't see anyone collecting baht, making change, handing out tickets at the door last Saturday. Could be the most challenging test ever for one of those amazing ticket sellers on the buses. How the hell do they remember exactly who has bought a ticket and who has not after 30 minutes during butt to belly bus rides at rush hours? LOL. But imagine one of them weaving through the hordes of girls in Thermae and trying to remember.
Don't think the shoes matter. I meant clothing.I wasn't really sure any one thing mattered much or if at all. But wanted to give a more complete picture.
However, based on what I have had said to me, I think Thai women are actually quite attracted to the long pants with sandals look on a man. It does strike a nice combination of status and respect (the long pants) and approachable casual and relaxed demeanor (the sandals).
Age might come into play here as well. I think a man over the age of, oh, 48 or so, ought to dress like he has been around and recognizes that Bangkok is a major international city worth putting aside the sloppy beach resort wear on a Saturday night out in favor of long pants. I wouldn't go so far as to suffer needlessly during the height of Hot Season. But most of the time I think long pants are easily do-able and just come across more respectful and aware for men over a certain age and experience.
I don't pong like some Farangs though. Ah yes, words to live by. This might be the title of my next best seller novel. . .
I wasn't really sure any one thing mattered much or if at all. But wanted to give a more complete picture.
However, based on what I have had said to me, I think Thai women are actually quite attracted to the long pants with sandals look on a man. It does strike a nice combination of status and respect (the long pants) and approachable casual and relaxed demeanor (the sandals).
Age might come into play here as well. I think a man over the age of, oh, 48 or so, ought to dress like he has been around and recognizes that Bangkok is a major international city worth putting aside the sloppy beach resort wear on a Saturday night out in favor of long pants. I wouldn't go so far as to suffer needlessly during the height of Hot Season. But most of the time I think long pants are easily do-able and just come across more respectful and aware for men over a certain age and experience.I think some guys like to wear as little as possible on top to show off muscles and hairy chest, but does it really impress Thai hookers? I think they look for a nice guy, not too arrogant, not too macho, not too full of himself, not too demanding, not too stingy, and not too stinky, and easy to talk too. Guys that can allow the girl to feel relaxed. Maybe if the guy is really superman, they might have the hots for him. LOL In that case, Thermae maybe the wrong venue.
Have been in Thailand 9 nights now, after a drought. LOL. Did not monger every single day, slowing down now. My favorite girl for the week, was the Billboard girl. So passionate for kissing and face so cute / pretty. Not the absolute best body but good enough (small tits the weakness). She was also the most expensive including drinks and BF. However I will repeat. Now I think is a little like Rachel McAdams for face look.
2nd best (or 2nd most memorable) was freelancer who was the cheapest and tallest and good body (big milky tits). I got LINE contacts for both. I may try some other freelancers, if lookers are still around.
Most of the MP type girls hardly were beautiful enough to be special, generally behind in pretty looks. Might repeat the Darling girl as cute face. Pity some of my favourites gone or away. I can forget the MP girls easily. However will keep looking.
Exact levels of service skills wasn't that important for me, nor was the exact price. I guess I am abnormal but some others have same preference as me.
A scam in the sense that, while you and I know Coyote Girls are more eye candy than anything else, visitors to Bangkok would not easily be aware that they are doing a different job from the other go go dancers that they are dancing next to on the stage. I know of at least two guy who didn't know the distinction, paid the double-bar fine, expensive drinks, etc. , get 'their' girls out of the bar only to be told they won't perform sexually with the guys. One of them made it all the way to his room before he found out. A few months ago on a weekend night, one of the bars opposite Tilac Bar had only two Go Go dancers working and the rest of the place was filled with Coyote.
If you know your way around, and yes I do, then you can still pull out some regular hotties. But the Coyotes have really messed up Soi Cowboy IMO.I'm with you on this one.
The bar you're probably referring to is Spice Girls. A few weeks back I was lured inside by a stunner who turned out to be a Coyote. I found out when I went to buy her a drink and the mammasan pointed to the Coyote drink price on the drink list. Upon seeing this I cancelled the drink order, asked my cute friend to get off my lap, paid for my drink and left. Oh and I let the mammasan know exactly why I was not happy.
I'm with you on this one.
The bar you're probably referring to is Spice Girls. A few weeks back I was lured inside by a stunner who turned out to be a Coyote. I found out when I went to buy her a drink and the mammasan pointed to the Coyote drink price on the drink list. Upon seeing this I cancelled the drink order, asked my cute friend to get off my lap, paid for my drink and left. Oh and I let the mammasan know exactly why I was not happy.It's well known these places (not just spice girls) have expensive drink prices. I don't think it is however, quite the scam I experienced in Soho or Hong Kong.
One can easily check the drink prices before ordering. I don't actually know how well publicised are the lady drink prices and what those prices actually are. I have forgotten but I assume not too massive. However we do understand that this is part of how these bars make any money at all. I expect these "Arab" bars (also Rio, Kiss, Sahara, Deja Vu, Midnight) all run at a loss, and are for money laundering, but I could be wrong. Its just I see a lot of girls and never saw a lot of customers.
I never thought I was ripped off in one of these places, just under-whelmed by the level of attention from the desired girls.
I'm with you on this one.
The bar you're probably referring to is Spice Girls. A few weeks back I was lured inside by a stunner who turned out to be a Coyote. I found out when I went to buy her a drink and the mammasan pointed to the Coyote drink price on the drink list. Upon seeing this I cancelled the drink order, asked my cute friend to get off my lap, paid for my drink and left. Oh and I let the mammasan know exactly why I was not happy.I am not sure if this was mentioned in the recent discussion of how to immediately tell the difference between a barfineable go-go bar girl (one that might be considered a Coyote as well) and one that is not barfineable, imo the most scammy element of the Coyote system. But non barfineable Coyotes very often wear tights, more-or-less the same as pantyhose. If the girl grabbing at you outsde a bar on Soi Cowboy does not have bare legs under that cute bikini or skirt covered butt, 99.99% likely she is not there to have sex with customers.
I suppose that might not strictly mean she won't leave with you after you pay an inflated barfine now that I see a report of some going with a customer after he paid. However, as that report turned out, she had no intention of engaging in sex with the guy who paid. And, yeah, I must amend my earlier assrssment and now rate THAT scam as the scammyest element of the Coyote system!
I think some guys like to wear as little as possible on top to show off muscles and hairy chest, but does it really impress Thai hookers? I think they look for a nice guy, not too arrogant, not too macho, not too full of himself, not too demanding, not too stingy, and not too stinky, and easy to talk too. Guys that can allow the girl to feel relaxed. Maybe if the guy is really superman, they might have the hots for him. LOL In that case, Thermae maybe the wrong venue.You know, I believe there is a subtle but important distinction to be made in any discussion of looks, clothing, shoes, age, demeanor and so on that might impress a Thai hooker in terms of her possibly getting the hots for him in the course of doing her job and how the cultural element of "Face" plays a part in who she responds to, especially in a venue like Thermae where issues of who tries (and might fail) to connect with who, who chooses who, who agrees to go with who and all that is much more on easily observable public display than many other places.
I have no dilusions about the fact that, were it a one on one mostly private encounter, the question of how much I can and will pay the girl trumps the hell out of whether I am fit or fat, 40 or 70, wearing dress shoes or no shoes, smile broadly or stare grimly into the abyss of life without mirth. But to the girls in a place like Thermae, I think it does matter to them what everyone else thinks of the matchup. Has she been chosen by (and agreed to go with) someone who looks like he at least knows how to present himself, behave politely, will treat her well financially, perhaps cause her to be the envy of the girls he did not choose.
I honestly feel that was an element in why Thermae girls have traditionally in more recent times wanted to be chosen by Japanese customers. Not because they did in fact pay significantly more money and treat them significantly more politely than their farang counterparts, which is a bit of supposedly conventional wisdom that I have never bought into anyway, but because it WAS the conventional wisdom that so many others, imcluding most Thermae FLs, bought into.
Member #4698
08-22-16, 14:27
All of the so called Arab's bars (there are seven of them) Rio, Kiss, Deja Vu, Midnite, Sahara, Rawhide, and Spice Girls are bars to avoid. Over the years there have been many warnings and bad experiences posted here about these bars. Basically they are rip off joints. How they continue to stay open despite the poor business they generate is open to speculation. Some think they are money laundering operations and others think they serve as a front for a more nefarious purpose. In any case stay away or give them a try. It is up to you. Just don't say you were not warned.
Now all that said, I must say that some of those little sweeties hanging out outside these bars trying to coax customers into their respective honky tonks are damn cute. Many times I have let them use their natural charms to try to persuade me into one of their bars. We flirt a little back and forth, but then it always comes down to a Mexican standoff when I summarize, "I won't go your bar, if you no come my hotel" and then we say our little friendly goodbyes. No harm, no foul on either side. My little interactions with these girls takes up less than 5 minutes of my time. I am counting on the one night a girl for whatever reason says, "yes, I come your hotel," but I am not holding my breath. 555
The thing I hate most about the Arab's bars is that they take up valuable real estate that could be put to better use if some other entity were leasing the property. What a waste of commercial space, but then I am not into money laundering or other various counterfeit activities. The so called "Arab" is not a fool. He must have a rational reason why he manages the properties the way he does. I just wish he would disappear or the authorities would close him down.
You know, I believe there is a subtle but important distinction to be made in any discussion of looks, clothing, shoes, age, demeanor and so on that might impress a Thai hooker in terms of her possibly getting the hots for him in the course of doing her job and how the cultural element of "Face" plays a part in who she responds to, especially in a venue like Thermae where issues of who tries (and might fail) to connect with who, who chooses who, who agrees to go with who and all that is much more on easily observable public display than many other places.
Yes, okay The girl has her image to maintain, so she doesn't want to be seen leaving with the "dregs" of the customers. If she is a top girl, she should be able to pull a good standard of customer or a rich one. I think my comments on the desirable customer still apply. Very ordinary girls may have to take a wider range of customers. Often girls have some standards though that they do not like to compromise.
Some girls have a good personality and are willing to take even disabled customers with unusual body shape, while others do not as they probably do not know what to do with a disabled person. This is not a Thermae comment. More general.
Last night I am chatting with 3 freelancers on Nana Carpark. All 3 are fairly good looking. One has hot outfit and comes from Bangkok face looks older than the other 2, but don't know if she was 35 or more. An Asian dude comes up and asks one girl a question. His English is real bad so she had no clue. His key word of the question was too badly pronounced to be intelligible. He then mentioned Gifts, and seems he was looking for "souvenirs" of Thailand for friends. I translated to Thai for the girls, "Thee Raleuk". They still looked perplexed. Why would anyone be asking about that? Soi 4 was not really the best place and one girl suggested Chatujak market (very far away). I suggested he look in Sukhumvit on the other side.
He asked me what these girls do? LOL. I said "Boom Boom". He then asked the price and I suggested 1500 for ST. He told me he had spent 8000 Baht on a girl in Nana Plaza bar for ST, I guess including BF, drinks etc. I don't know if was Coyote or not, however I guess the term "rip off" could apply, as newbies don't know anything and need an experienced wingman, or to read the forum. I explained that street walkers were a lot cheaper. LOL. He asked if they were dangerous too. I could only say I did not feel any danger with the ones I knew (slightly). Dangerously cheap, yes. Their ID card does get handed to the Hotel Desk. My girl had even showed me her ID card to prove she was a lot older than what I thought.
So a rip off can occur in any bar, where a customer has no clues about what is going on.
On my first trip to Thailand I was fortunate to have found an experienced guy, who I accidently met at my home town airport and was on the same plane to Bangkok, previously knowing him from my Thai language class.
In the modern day, guys who know nothing, should be surfing the internet, a source of lots of info on all subjects. Not sure why they have not. The web is always my friend to try to find some good data amongst the bullshit too, of course.
Its official. Syzy is bored with Crazy House, especially Saturdays have bad line up. Lack of stunners and lack of my favourites being around. Bars are boring, I agree. It's only specially hot and pretty girls that can save them. I can take a holiday, and wait for someone special to come back. Too fussy about pretty faces.
Its official. Syzy is bored with Crazy House, especially Saturdays have bad line up. Lack of stunners and lack of my favourites being around. Bars are boring, I agree. It's only specially hot and pretty girls that can save them. I can take a holiday, and wait for someone special to come back. Too fussy about pretty faces.Agree, the best time of Crazy House is over. The few left lookers there are to fussy about drinks and sometimes even not attempting to drink the ordered drinks anymore. Seems they have more important things to do now.
Billboard and Bangkok Bunnies are relatively new competitive places and the good looking girls get spread over a half dozen places now. I was surprised by Twisters, the former Rainbow 2 Bar in second floor. They got some lookers and it seems they have a quiet aggressive setup. At least all of my encounters leaded me straight to the "lightly" hidden couches where almost anything was available beside of actual sex.
Its official. Syzy is bored with Crazy House, especially Saturdays have bad line up. Lack of stunners and lack of my favourites being around. Bars are boring, I agree. It's only specially hot and pretty girls that can save them. I can take a holiday, and wait for someone special to come back. Too fussy about pretty faces.I intended to take Mook No. 144 with fab high firm tits one day, but her face was not that stunning and she always seemed to be in big rush to get barfined, often barfined very fast, so I did not pull the trigger. Never lacking a customer for long though. Aom No. 3 (or "Off" - not certain of name pronunciation) is pretty and sweet, body okay, and gets customers fast, however was a total bomb out for me when tried her long ago as a newbie. Being popular is no guarantee.
No. 92 has stunning body but I still don't take her. Just the body is not enough.
Jane No. 4 (is hot on the bed but little tits) and I would definitely take, but she was only spotted outside the bar. Not sure if she was working or not. Did not see her dance recently. Donut, Ging, Nikki still missing. Naam has big sillies now.
Too many bad nose jobs in there these days. Still a popular bar, but just lost the edge for stunning girls. Line up seems to be in general decline, for my taste. Have to do other things. Only barfined a girl once in last 9 days from there (o.k. maybe only 4 visits), and she was a repeat. That says it all. Shows I am bored with it. If Donut was there, I would take her any time without question. Gorgeous model type girl likes sex (horny type part time girl).
So its Saturday and a whole day of fun awaits.
Start off with a "friend" of one of the girls I had met off Thai friendly, who apparently runs Candy Massage.
Send me pics of CC as she's called. Fair skinned, boobs around a good B.
Was told she speaks good English but I found it elementary, but nevertheless, got the messages through even if needed google translate.
Had asked for the same. 2 hours, massage and full house.
WOW. This woman knows how to give a nuru massage! Blew my first load right in the session.
Relaxed after a shower when she washed me up (love this about Thai girls) and then round 2. Great enthusiasm and clearly a horny little girl.
No complaints here, was all great in massage and sex and it only hit me 3000!
Having spend the early afternoon with CC as in previous report, it was a bit of sightseeing that got the better of the day.
Night time and its back to Nana plaza for me. I get there around 11 and the place is kicking! Way more than my previous visit which was earlier.
Everything seems attractive today. Check out here and there and nothing really is catching my eye despite every girl seemingly interested in me (read wallet). A few feelers and it was going to cost me 6000 for LT!
Went outside after a few drinks to see if there we them freelancers like the other time. The street was more fuller now it was almost 1 am and after a few up and down, had noticed 2 girls standing near the Nana hotel entrance. Picked one which really caught my eye and agreed on 2000 but made it clear she not sleeping in with me.
Went off to the hotel and she didn't disappoint! Great GFE experience and after 2 rounds, sent her packing with a 200 baht tip. She earned it.
Boy did I sleep peaceful that night.
Woke up late, last day in the City.
Had about 6 hours to waste before heading off to airport so decided to the only thing left on menu. Soapy massage!
Got Dr BJ and Annie's. Dr BJ seems closed as per reports here / under a new name but that Soi had a few other ones and even by 2 pm, the girls were hunting punters.
Decided to go to tried and proven Annie's. Picked up no 27 from the line up, Ta was her name.
Says she 30 but could pass for early 20's with the best fake boobs I've seen. I thought they were natural till we had them tasted.
Good soapy massage, great sex for 2 rounds, good enthusiasm fro Ta. Claims she was off the day before and I was the first one for the day and she needed some serious attention.
For 2500, again no complains in service or girl.
On the way back to the hotel, stopped at a real massage place for a full body real massage (only 450 Baht!) and then showered off and that concludes the Bangkok travel for this visit.
As a first time punter in BKK, or that matter, first timer in Far east, noticed a few starting between this and Europe which is my main punting ground.
Fake advertising abounds in BKK. The sites, the girls, heavy photoshopping. Seems what you see in Nana and the streets vs those on the sites are 2 different breeds of sex workers!
In terms of service, I think the girls here offer more. Way more GFE and involved even though they as commercial as the European ones, their service benchmarks are higher.
All girls I had were exceptional. Would never be able to say that about a Euro trip! Either I hit pot luck (unlikely) or the girls deliver! I think its the latter, and combined with the exchange rates, definitely a great place to punt. Surely going to be back here again.
Visited Cowboy last night for the first time in a long time. Was with a colleague so went to Shark as they seem to be somewhat consistent for quality and atmosphere. The hip-hop musing was very good. My colleague is Asian and list to chat with girls but doesn't really seal the deal. He BF a server and went drinking with her until 2:30 AM.
I stayed behind and was debating whether there was anything that tickled my fancy. Most of these girls don't come close to being as good looking at my GF. The taboo is fun though.
As I was just about to throw in the towel, there was a petite girl whose eyes really caught me. Body was good. Smile was good. Had her come for a drink. Her name was Nook. Nice chemistry in the chit chat. Asked where she lived and she said Ratchada. I joked that we should go to her place. She said that she was find, though there was no fan or aircon or other amenities. Asked if I was fine with that. Fun.
Asked how much for ST. I am a LT guy, but couldn't bring her back where I was staying. She said 3 K. I have no idea if that is the right ballpark these days. I was find. 600 for the BF and off we went to Penny Black.
DFK in the elevator. Wild GFE in bed. I was a happy guy.
Last night I am chatting with 3 freelancers on Nana Carpark. All 3 are fairly good looking. One has hot outfit and comes from Bangkok face looks older than the other 2, but don't know if she was 35 or more.
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Its official. Syzy is bored with Crazy House, especially Saturdays have bad line up. Lack of stunners and lack of my favourites being around. Bars are boring, I agree. It's only specially hot and pretty girls that can save them. I can take a holiday, and wait for someone special to come back. Too fussy about pretty faces.Interesting that the same night my buddy and I were so impressed with the FL line up in Thermae, Saturday night, we also dropped in on Crazy House earlier, from about 8:15 pm-9:15 pm. He had never been there and was impressed by so much female nudity. Well, it is impressive to the first timer there, almost regardless of the looks quality of the current lineup vs the past.
But my impression of Crazy House that night was similar to what I'd posted about it a while back; the nudity aside, that night's lineup would be sub par even for some of the lesser go-go bars around town.
I wonder if the fat mamasan that virtually everyone who dealt with her hated her had an under appreciated knack for corraling and keeping better looking girls. And now that she is working at Billboard or wherever, some of the better looking girls have followed her there. ?
Meanwhile, that same night we were also quite impressed with the improvement in the Soi 4/ Nana FL scene. Not just in front of the Nana Hotel car park but further down Soi 4 through to the new large 7-11 on the right hand side past the Hillary Bars.
I didn't take her because, as I said before, I was commited to a meet up elsewhere that night, but I was quoted 1,000 baht for a ST from an adorable little lady on Soi 4 who looked all of 18 at most but whose I. D. , which I requested to check, stated she was indeed the 28 year old bag she claimed to be. LOL. Got her contact info for later though. It was definitely a night to be FL hunting!
As a first time punter in BKK, or that matter, first timer in Far east, noticed a few starting between this and Europe which is my main punting ground.
Fake advertising abounds in BKK. The sites, the girls, heavy photoshopping. Seems what you see in Nana and the streets vs those on the sites are 2 different breeds of sex workers!
In terms of service, I think the girls here offer more. Way more GFE and involved even though they as commercial as the European ones, their service benchmarks are higher.
All girls I had were exceptional. Would never be able to say that about a Euro trip! Either I hit pot luck (unlikely) or the girls deliver! I think its the latter, and combined with the exchange rates, definitely a great place to punt. Surely going to be back here again.Thanks for the great reports! I'll be back in BKK again in late September so just soaking up info such as your's.
Eszpresszo
08-24-16, 05:28
Got my ticket to BKK. Looked around a while and found a great deal on Korean Air, which had the shortest travel time, as well. However, it puts me in BKK at 11 PM (that's 23:00). I had hoped to pop inside some Thai girl the night I arrived. But, I understand there could be a long line through customs and a significant cab ride at that hour. Any idea of a time frame when it will take me to reach a hotel on Sukhumvit that late? And what would be good entry level mongering options at that time? I am considering Ruamchitt Plaza for a few nights, as it appears to have a lot going on in the immediate proximity and close to the BTS. I'm not sure if I should dive headfirst into Nana the day I hit the ground. Or do others think that is easy enough? I understand there are some cheaper hotels in the area, which might be good for a night and a ST experience. Yeah, I know there some things get going at the hour, particularly the discos. But again, I wonder if that is something you can just dive into.
It has occurred to me that after 26 hours on a plane in coach, my 6'4" body might be a wreck, and may need a massage. But, aren't those places done by midnight?
Got my ticket to BKK. Looked around a while and found a great deal on Korean Air, which had the shortest travel time, as well. However, it puts me in BKK at 11 PM (that's 23:00). I had hoped to pop inside some Thai girl the night I arrived. But, I understand there could be a long line through customs and a significant cab ride at that hour. Any idea of a time frame when it will take me to reach a hotel on Sukhumvit that late? And what would be good entry level mongering options at that time? I am considering Ruamchitt Plaza for a few nights, as it appears to have a lot going on in the immediate proximity and close to the BTS. I'm not sure if I should dive headfirst into Nana the day I hit the ground. Or do others think that is easy enough? I understand there are some cheaper hotels in the area, which might be good for a night and a ST experience. Yeah, I know there some things get going at the hour, particularly the discos. But again, I wonder if that is something you can just dive into.
It has occurred to me that after 26 hours on a plane in coach, my 6'4" body might be a wreck, and may need a massage. But, aren't those places done by midnight?It would be take about 30-40 minutes maximum I guess to reach the hotel at Sukhumvit. If you land by 11, I am guessing you should be at the hotel by 2-2. 30 am.
You could take a shower and head to to Nana or Soi 11 a lot of girls from the massage places usually stand on Soi 11. Last time when I was in BKK, I was really tired on arrival so took a nap and got up at like 3 am. I stayed at on Soi 8 I guess. So walked across to Soi 11 found a few girls on the street offering me a good massage. Took one of them to the hotel and hell yeah she gave an awesome dry thai massage followed by an equally good session. Paid her 1500 +500 tip took a shower and back into the sack for a few hours.
At Nana you would find a lot of girls standing around, also LBs too. So if you are not into them be careful to judge properly.
You will also find a lot of African girls if you are into them.
This was about 10 months ago.
WorldTotter
08-24-16, 18:04
Visited Bangkok first time 2 weeks back. Hit Bangkok bunnies on day of arrival and bar fine lady 107. It was my best experience in entire trip and mongering ever. Massage, BJ, Anal. What not and thrice for only 2 k. She is at least 30 years old but service is amazing.
Mumbai Guy
08-24-16, 18:40
Got my ticket to BKK. Looked around a while and found a great deal on Korean Air, which had the shortest travel time, as well. However, it puts me in BKK at 11 PM (that's 23:00). I had hoped to pop inside some Thai girl the night I arrived. But, I understand there could be a long line through customs and a significant cab ride at that hour. Any idea of a time frame when it will take me to reach a hotel on Sukhumvit that late? And what would be good entry level mongering options at that time? I am considering Ruamchitt Plaza for a few nights, as it appears to have a lot going on in the immediate proximity and close to the BTS. I'm not sure if I should dive headfirst into Nana the day I hit the ground. Or do others think that is easy enough? I understand there are some cheaper hotels in the area, which might be good for a night and a ST experience. Yeah, I know there some things get going at the hour, particularly the discos. But again, I wonder if that is something you can just dive into.
It has occurred to me that after 26 hours on a plane in coach, my 6'4" body might be a wreck, and may need a massage. But, aren't those places done by midnight?From the flight time you have mentioned, I think you are flying in from America. Immigration could take about 30 minutes max. Customs is just a walk through presuming you have nothing to declare. You should be out of the airport in 45 minutes max. Another 45 minutes in a cab and you should be in Sukhumvit by 1 AM max. That is the time places like Climax start to warm up. If you are too tired and since you are staying at Ruamchitt, you can just walk into Thermae which is right in the basement of Ruamchitt. There are loads of FLs available there. Standard massage places like the soapies and oilies close at midnight but there a a few places in Villa market on soi 11 which are open at that hour. You can get laid in BKK practically at any hour of the day. LOL.
Have a great time and enjoy.
Wolvenvacht
08-24-16, 18:53
It would be take about 30-40 minutes maximum I guess to reach the hotel at Sukhumvit. If you land by 11, I am guessing you should be at the hotel by 2-2. 30 am.
If he arrives at 11 PM and even if immigration is busy, he should be out of the airport by midnight and in his hotel by 1 AM.
Remember there are 2 immigration halls. If one is too busy, check the monitors at the entrance of the hall to see if the other is less crowded and go there.
Member #4698
08-24-16, 19:00
Got my ticket ... on Korean Air, which ... puts me in BKK at 11 PM (that's 23:00). ... Any idea of a time frame when it will take me to reach a hotel on Sukhumvit that late? And what would be good entry level mongering options at that time? I am considering Ruamchitt Plaza ... may need a massage. But, aren't those places done by midnight?You should be thru immigration by 23:30. A taxi ride to Sukhumvit at this hour should only take 30 minutes. Check in a few more minutes. Fast shower, brush the teeth, mouthwash, and change of clothes will take a few more minutes and then you are ready to go! Approximate time for the good times to begin: 00:30 to 01:00 (12:30am to 1am) and believe me, at this time you will find lots of Sukhumvit girls available to make your acquaintance.
1. Soi 11 will be hopping. Walk slow on the right side of the street and take in the scenery. Between the supermarket and the Ambassador Hotel you will see a bunch of massage girls offering their naughty services. See if one appeals to you, if yes, strike up a conversation. Her shop is very close by in the arcade or you can take her back to your hotel for a few baht more. Note: the Soi 11 LB SW's hang out together apart from the real girls so there is no possibility of making a wrong move unless you are so inclined or blind. If the massage girls do not appeal, keep walking a few feet further to the Climax Club, located in the Ambassador Parking Lot. This place is good for FL pickups until 3 am or so.
2. Walk from Soi 11 towards Asok. Basically you will see SW's hanging out looking for customers from Soi 13 up until the Weston and a few of them are very doable IMHO especially in front of the Sofitel and the Weston. If it is only 1 am, Thermae will be worth a look see especially if you are staying at the Ruamchitt. You will find a bountiful number of FL's there. Some may appeal to you.
3. The Nana pariking lot and further down Soi 4 will also be loaded with SW opportunities plus the hostess girls in the Soi 4 bars might also interest you. It is a dice throw, but I have seen some sexy girls out there on Soi 4 offering their services.
So the bottom line is your late night arrival should not be a problem. There are many possibilities on late night Sukhumvit. I have only mentioned a few.
It's well known these places (not just spice girls) have expensive drink prices. I don't think it is however, quite the scam I experienced in Soho or Hong Kong.
One can easily check the drink prices before ordering. I don't actually know how well publicised are the lady drink prices and what those prices actually are. I have forgotten but I assume not too massive. However we do understand that this is part of how these bars make any money at all. I expect these "Arab" bars (also Rio, Kiss, Sahara, Deja Vu, Midnight) all run at a loss, and are for money laundering, but I could be wrong. Its just I see a lot of girls and never saw a lot of customers.
I never thought I was ripped off in one of these places, just under-whelmed by the level of attention from the desired girls.Maybe it's not a scam, it's probably just me. I am not interested in Coyotes at all and I certainly don't want to buy them drinks or barfine them for the pleasure of their company, although I have barfined gogos and bargirls just for a fun few hours of eating and drinking.
When I head to a gogo I have in the back of my mind that I'm looking for a girl to have sex with. Many times I go out but don't find a lady because none meet my criteria on the night, no big deal. There are plenty of really lovely girl available in Nana or Cowboy if I feel like a chat but I want at least the possibility of a barfine otherwise I'll just go on a date from a TF girl.
Mr Enternational
08-24-16, 22:17
NB hit it right on the head. If I arrive at 11 pm then I am always home in Pattaya by 1 am. It definitely does not take 2 hours to get from the plane to Suk.
Hi guys,
I am going to Bangkok in November and I am looking for a girl that can do a really good deepthroat all the way and facefuck and I have a rather big dick.
Instead of walking around and ask girls this whitch I think is a little embaressing I wonder if any of you guys know any girl that can provide this service?
It could be a bargirl, massagegirl or freelancer it dosent matter the importan is that she can really provide this service GOOD couse its one of my dreams.
The other thing is that I like to start every day with a good BJ so I am looking for a girl that wants to come to my hotel every morning for 7 days and just give me a quick BJ before breakfast.
Same thing here I wonder if you have any good contacts here? .
Maybe I sound a bit kinky and hey maybe I am but I guess this is the place to ask? .
So if you know any girls in Bangkok you think I chould talk to please let me know in PM.
Cheers guys!
Member #4591
08-25-16, 00:49
Hi guys,
I am going to Bangkok in November and I am looking for a girl that can do a really good deepthroat all the way and facefuck and I have a rather big dick.
Instead of walking around and ask girls this whitch I think is a little embaressing I wonder if any of you guys know any girl that can provide this service?
It could be a bargirl, massagegirl or freelancer it dosent matter the importan is that she can really provide this service GOOD couse its one of my dreams.
The other thing is that I like to start every day with a good BJ so I am looking for a girl that wants to come to my hotel every morning for 7 days and just give me a quick BJ before breakfast.
Same thing here I wonder if you have any good contacts here? .
Maybe I sound a bit kinky and hey maybe I am but I guess this is the place to ask? .
So if you know any girls in Bangkok you think I chould talk to please let me know in PM.
Cheers guys!Dao at Tulip.
Maybe it's not a scam, it's probably just me. I am not interested in Coyotes at all and I certainly don't want to buy them drinks or barfine them for the pleasure of their company, although I have barfined gogos and bargirls just for a fun few hours of eating and drinking.
When I head to a gogo I have in the back of my mind that I'm looking for a girl to have sex with. Many times I go out but don't find a lady because none meet my criteria on the night, no big deal. There are plenty of really lovely girl available in Nana or Cowboy if I feel like a chat but I want at least the possibility of a barfine otherwise I'll just go on a date from a TF girl.I think many men does not quite understand the concept of "Coyote Girls". These girls are hired dancers. As such, they need to keep together as a group in order to fill the stage and add some value for the bar-owners who hire them. This group will rotate and work in different bars. It is not true that they are not "barfineable", but the same goes for a regular go-go girl; if she does not like you (or does not need the money) she can turn you down. Many will do. And they have hundreds of different reasons for it. A bar like Long Gun in Soi Cowboy have coyote girls now and they can be barfined. Last week I see a lot of them go with men. It is up to the girl if she go for sex or not. Just be sure to ask before you go. It is probably only in the massage places that the girl can not choose to say no to a customer. For coyotes I think the chances of barfining your dreamgirl will increase later at night. At that time they have done their job as a dance group and are probably more open to go with you to earn some more.
Intended to inspect some old favourites of mine at SC last night but due to heavy thunderstorm could only leave the hotel around 11 pm. So I decided to go straight to Crazy House. Party was still in full swing. But at first sight, line-up was not too stunning. Maybe 20 girls on stage, almost all of them completely naked of course. I was immediately assigned a seat, and accosted, by one girl, named Jaa. She was good at conversation but not what I was looking for. So she was also polite enough to leave when it was her turn on the stage. Immediately another one came to replace her, now on my lap. Forgot the name, quite tall, pretty face but a bit heavy-boned. Being Mr Nice I bought her a ladydrink just to have time to look around. Spotted #72, very good dancer, cute face and shoulder-long permed hair, maybe an 8, very nice small behind. She was one among three girls who wore a bra but it was obvious she had silicones. Still decided to invite her over. It turned out she was a bit crazy, maybe also a bit drunk, but quite funny and good English. After some teasing and, against my principles, a Tequila we agreed on ST and back to hotel. Very good in bed, again a bit crazy in PSE style but good fun. Great body except for those tits. Bad boob job as had to be expected from wearing a bra. I think Syzy also mentioned that warning sign before. With girls wearing a bra at CH you might expect disappointment. But overall package was still very good. Good enough that I walked her back to CH while it was still raining. Earned some extra gentleman points for that I guess.
Intended to inspect some old favourites of mine at SC last night but due to heavy thunderstorm could only leave the hotel around 11 pm. So I decided to go straight to Crazy House. Party was still in full swing. But at first sight, line-up was not too stunning. Maybe 20 girls on stage, almost all of them completely naked of course. I was immediately assigned a seat, and accosted, by one girl, named Jaa. She was good at conversation but not what I was looking for. So she was also polite enough to leave when it was her turn on the stage. Immediately another one came to replace her, now on my lap. Forgot the name, quite tall, pretty face but a bit heavy-boned. Being Mr Nice I bought her a ladydrink just to have time to look around. Spotted #72, very good dancer, cute face and shoulder-long permed hair, maybe an 8, very nice small behind. She was one among three girls who wore a bra but it was obvious she had sillycones. Still decided to invite her over. It turned out she was a bit crazy, maybe also a bit drunk, but quite funny and good English. After some teasing and, against my principles, a Tequila we agreed on ST and back to hotel. Very good in bed, again a bit crazy in PSE style but good fun. Great body except for those tits. Bad boob job as had to be expected from wearing a bra. I think Syzy also mentioned that warning sign before. With girls wearing a bra at CH you might expect disappointment. But overall package was still very good. Good enough that I walked her back to CH while it was still raining. Earned some extra gentleman points for that I guess.You really are far too nice, buddy. I don't let girls invite themselves to sit with me, unless by co-incidence I was intending to invite her anyway. If they sit in a free seat next to me, I am very good at ignoring them completely. Girls extend their hand to shake hands. I ignore that as well, or miss their hand on purpose. LOL I want it to be very clear how disinterested I am to meet any girls not selected.
Now for the tough question. No. 72 had what name? Permed hair? Does that mean curly?
If you suspect sillies, you can feel a girl's tits to check. May not work with a hardcase bra on I suppose. I have taken a sillies girl occasionally, but I can't remember ever getting one from Crazy House. Yes line up has been down. I am hardly attending this week (just once quickly).
I think many men does not quite understand the concept of "Coyote Girls". It is not true that they are not "barfineable", but the same goes for a regular go-go girl; if she does not like you (or does not need the money) she can turn you down. Many will do. It's not clear to me if every Coyote girl is barfinable. However many or most are not available for sex.
Barfine for Coyotes is typically quite expensive and may reduce at a late hour like midnight. Barfine allows her to leave the bar with no penalty. That is all that is guaranteed really. Some bars set other rules about what time a Coyote can be barfined, and how many drinks have to be sold before she can leave.
You really are far too nice, buddy. I don't let girls invite themselves to sit with me, unless by co-incidence I was intending to invite her anyway. If they sit in a free seat next to me, I am very good at ignoring them completely. Girls extend their hand to shake hands. I ignore that as well, or miss their hand on purpose. LOL I want it to be very clear how disinterested I am to meet any girls not selected.Well, Mr Jai Dee is my second name. But in fact I ignored the first one but got weak with the second one. At least she consumed her lady drink and I could send her away.
Now for the tough question. No. 72 had what name? Permed hair? Does that mean curly?
If you suspect sillies, you can feel a girl's tits to check. May not work with a hardcase bra on I suppose. I have taken a sillies girl occasionally, but I can't remember ever getting one from Crazy House. Yes line up has been down. I am hardly attending this week (just once quickly).Her name was Nueng (one). And yes, a bit curly and only shoulder length. Sillies were not really in question but sometimes you have to compromise. I might give CH another try tonight but then rather late again.
Banana Boi
08-25-16, 12:34
What is the going rate (BF + ST/LT) for barfining a non coyote gogo girl from Baccara, Rainbow, or one of the other clubs with top looks?
I've never done it since I've always stuck with 2000-2500ST at Thermae but since I will be up there more this month I want to try a top BKK gogo girl and compare the experience with you guys against a top Pattaya gogo girl.
Member #4591
08-25-16, 16:44
What is the going rate (BF + ST/LT) for barfining a non coyote gogo girl from Baccara, Rainbow, or one of the other clubs with top looks?
I've never done it since I've always stuck with 2000-2500ST at Thermae but since I will be up there more this month I want to try a top BKK gogo girl and compare the experience with you guys against a top Pattaya gogo girl.Anywhere from 2,000-3,000 for ST and 3,000-5,000 for LT. This will probably start another price debate but I could give a rats ass because this is the reality in Bangkok.
Met her at Soi Cowboy.
Not very young but gorgeous.
Have read so many forums may become an expert at Thai night life.
I took out twice short time, but she ended up staying at my hotel till next day afternoon.
I am back home.
She's in touch with me, not asked me for anything, except a house.
My question is she tells me not to message as her boss asked her to go to Malaysia or Japan or Bali etc for a week.
She even said she goes as bargirl to these places. Has happened 5 times in last 2 months.
What goes on why does a bargirl from Soi cowboy need to go work in a diff country for a week?
Dao at Tulip.Ok you say she can do the real deeptroath and facefuck? On a BIG dick?
If that's what you mean I WILL meet her.
Met her at Soi Cowboy.
My question is she tells me not to message as her boss asked her to go to Malaysia or Japan or Bali etc for a week.
She even said she goes as bargirl to these places. Has happened 5 times in last 2 months.
What goes on why does a bargirl from Soi cowboy need to go work in a diff country for a week?She goes there to make money for herself and her boss by providing sexual services to customers. Sorry, if it is not what you want to hear.
If they sit in a free seat next to me, I am very good at ignoring them completely. Girls extend their hand to shake hands. I ignore that as well, or miss their hand on purpose. LOL I want it to be very clear how disinterested I am to meet any girls not selected.Charming manners. Does it hurt to be polite?
Member #4591
08-26-16, 02:40
Ok you say she can do the real deeptroath and facefuck? On a BIG dick?
If that's what you mean I WILL meet her.You asked a question and I answered it.
Member #4591
08-26-16, 02:43
Met her at Soi Cowboy.
Not very young but gorgeous.
Have read so many forums may become an expert at Thai night life.
I took out twice short time, but she ended up staying at my hotel till next day afternoon.
I am back home.
She's in touch with me, not asked me for anything, except a house.
My question is she tells me not to message as her boss asked her to go to Malaysia or Japan or Bali etc for a week.
She even said she goes as bargirl to these places. Has happened 5 times in last 2 months.
What goes on why does a bargirl from Soi cowboy need to go work in a diff country for a week?Oh man! She has another customer visiting her! Na, she didn't ask me for anything, only a house! Please tell me where you are, you are sick, we need to send an ambulance for you.
Member #4591
08-26-16, 04:10
Charming manners. Does it hurt to be polite?Being polite is one thing but often bar girls take that as an invite to sit down and order a LD. If that's not what the customer wanted, it can be awkward. I agree with Syzggs on this point.
She goes there to make money for herself and her boss by providing sexual services to customers. Sorry, if it is not what you want to hear.She might stop that if he buys her a house. Not much, indeed. She could have asked for a buffalo too.
Well, Mr Jai Dee is my second name. But in fact I ignored the first one but got weak with the second one. At least she consumed her lady drink and I could send her away.
Her name was Nueng (one). And yes, a bit curly and only shoulder length. Sillies were not really in question but sometimes you have to compromise. I might give CH another try tonight but then rather late again.9. 30 PM is about the latest ideal time (already some cuties taken), however sometimes the cuties can be arriving back there later on. So on occasions I have arrived late to see very few girls dancing, and then the numbers swelled again with girls returning.
I believe sitting from 9 PM to 9. 30 PM is the best if trying to catch a particular girl that a arrives at that time. Most really hot girls do not arrive too early.
Maybe I will remember your face if I see you.
Charming manners. Does it hurt to be polite?I am not sure what is the correct answer here. Since coming to Thailand I had to learn to be more polite than I was naturally. We are not used to be being approached by unwanted people in our home countries most likely. So it used to annoy me a lot more than it does now.
So rather than give Thai people angry words, when they try to grab my bag or hassle me, I am more serenely calm in the modern day. My main tactic is to ignore. My GF says I have changed a lot being a much calmer person, not pissed off very easily. Even is something undesired occurs in a bar, I can ignore it, I don't have to leave in a big temper just because there is one or two annoying people in there.
The more nice you are, the harder it can be to get rid of unwanted people. I hate girls arriving uncalled and then trying to massage me.
I hate massage anyway. I don't want anyone to think they are giving me a service and I should give them something in return.
It is very important to realise that everything you do sets a precedent. If you buy the mamasan a drink or the waitress a drink, she will come to you regularly, so think carefully first, is this something you want? I have one very good waitress at Crazy House that I am more than happy to keep and will help her too. Number S1. I used to like one other waitress Noi originally, but she changed to be a dancing girl. I still support her a little bit too.
I don't see how to get rid of unwanted people other than by at least ignoring them. If others can recommend a great approach, that would be nice.
I am actually a softy but have had to try to learn to be a bit more hard hearted. You cannot look after everyone. You have to be selective about which girls you want the company of.
So I never want to chat too much to anyone that is annoying or not useful to me. I prefer to be left in peace. As soon as an unwanted girl is with you it is more difficult to work out which girl you really want and get her to come. I have the rule that if a girl comes to me from no desire on my part, I never allow her to get to me, since would set the precedent that other girls will see that I can be manipulated. It is better for all to believe I am not very approachable, except by "my selected girls". Others won't understand how my girls got selected, but that is no matter.
I don't attend Suzi Wong much any more. One reason is I was nice to too many people in there in the past and set the precedent. So I know too many staff will come to me. I recently went to Long Gun first time for a few years. Yet I got hassled by too many of the staff. Seems they have long memories of me buying too many drinks in the past. I had to leave pretty quick.
If you like being swamped by the staff, you act generously to all, if you like to sit alone, you have to be quite aloof even if not quite downright unfriendly. I don't want to be swamped too many coming to me. So have to try to flick on the "mean" switch at times.
It can feel like a Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde type thing, where I can try to be exceptionally nice to some, and completely disinterested (if not mean) to others.
I think many men does not quite understand the concept of "Coyote Girls". These girls are hired dancers. As such, they need to keep together as a group in order to fill the stage and add some value for the bar-owners who hire them. This group will rotate and work in different bars. It is not true that they are not "barfineable", but the same goes for a regular go-go girl; if she does not like you (or does not need the money) she can turn you down. Many will do. And they have hundreds of different reasons for it. A bar like Long Gun in Soi Cowboy have coyote girls now and they can be barfined. Last week I see a lot of them go with men. It is up to the girl if she go for sex or not. Just be sure to ask before you go. It is probably only in the massage places that the girl can not choose to say no to a customer. For coyotes I think the chances of barfining your dreamgirl will increase later at night. At that time they have done their job as a dance group and are probably more open to go with you to earn some more.Some Coyotes don't dance at all or do so only if called upon to do so by the management under certain circumstances. I'm talking about the Coyotes whose primary job is to look hot, stand outside the bars and cajole customers into going inside to start buying drinks.
As far as some of them not being "barfineable", of course virtually everyone has a price in this regard. If you want to put the time and money into it, you could probably get The Duchess of Cambridge, Kate Middleton to go with you for ST if you were a handsome movie star and could convince her that "solving world hunger" were on the line. And, yes, if the time was exactly right, the money was exactly right, the need was extreme enough and, possibly, if the customer was right in some way, even the hottest Coyote standing outside the bars on Soi Cowboy who hardly ever steps inside long enough to dance could be "barfined".
However, aside from the kind of clothing they wear, whether they are wearing tights (pantyhose) or not and so on, one of the fastest and most certain ways to find out if the girl standing along Soi Cowboy who loops her arm into yours and tries to drag you into a bar to starting buying drinks is a Coyote is to simply ask her, "Are you a Coyote?" The girl will almost certainly admit it and say yes if she is a Coyote. Then, to find out if she has any intention whatsoever of being barfined by you (or by almost anyone, imo), simply ask her, "How much is the barfine to take you out?" Many if not most of those hotties standing outside the bars along Soi Cowboy will immediately drop the "act", drop the smile, drop your arm and step away from you. She knows you are on to the scam and that she has just been busted. They not only don't have a barfine option for you at any price, they are so unconnected to the entire concept of a "barfine" to leave their real job (of just standing outside, looking good and cajoling customers to come into the bar) and go with a customer, they don't even know what the barfine cost is for any real go-go dancers who might work in that bar.
Oh man!! She has another customer visiting her! Na, she didn't ask me for anything, only a house! Please tell me where you are, you are sick, we need to send an ambulance for you.Dude,
It was a joke. And she too was trying to see how I would react.
She knows what she does and so do I, the only thing is what makes her diff is she " gets to decide who she goes out with" and " doesn't do stuff in bed which many do".
Although I did send her a perfume on her birthday last month. And she still thanks me for it.
My question was a simple one. Why does a person working already in Soi Cowboy as bar girl on salary and ST / LT, keep going to Malaysia, Japan?
And yup was really considering buying a house for her.
She goes there to make money for herself and her boss by providing sexual services to customers. Sorry, if it is not what you want to hear.Na no big deal. She doesn't hide it. But her boss would be the establishment at Soi cowboy, so why send some one to another country.
How much do they make there. Last time she came back from Japan she was very unhappy. And was not thrilled going again.
Do they work in a bar there or provide escort services or get taken a brothel like the Russians at rajah hotel.
Just inquisitive about all this.
700 + 2000st / 4000 LT.
What is the going rate (BF + ST/LT) for barfining a non coyote gogo girl from Baccara, Rainbow, or one of the other clubs with top looks?
I've never done it since I've always stuck with 2000-2500ST at Thermae but since I will be up there more this month I want to try a top BKK gogo girl and compare the experience with you guys against a top Pattaya gogo girl.
Banana Boi
08-26-16, 16:20
700 + 2000st / 4000 LT.Odd how BKK gogo clubs are cheaper than Pattaya ones for BF. Pattaya is reaching 2000 BF alone for some clubs like Glass House. 1500 for many before midnight.
Blanquiceleste
08-26-16, 16:28
700 + 2000st / 4000 LT.How recent is this information? The barfine seems a bit low for a top end GoGo on SC. This is what tiny beer bars ask for in Pattaya. AS pointed out by BB the GoGos in Pattaya are all 1000 and above.
I also believe there is some silly showcard the girls at Baccara pull out when you ask about barfining a girl.
Member #4591
08-26-16, 17:32
Dude,
It was a joke. And she too was trying to see how I would react.
She knows what she does and so do I, the only thing is what makes her diff is she " gets to decide who she goes out with" and " doesn't do stuff in bed which many do".
Although I did send her a perfume on her birthday last month. And she still thanks me for it.
My question was a simple one. Why does a person working already in Soi Cowboy as bar girl on salary and ST / LT, keep going to Malaysia, Japan?
And yup was really considering buying a house for her.So then actually, it wasn't a joke LOL. So here is the answer to your question that nobody would ask unless they were in love with that said bar girl. She can make double the money she's making in Thailand if she works in Malaysia, Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, or South Korea. The reason why she only stays for a week is because she is working on a tourist visa or visa exempt entry stamp and it is too risky to stay longer.
On the other hand, her one of many sponsors is coming for a weeks holiday and she can't talk with you because she will be risking her monthly payment.
By the way, she seems like a great catch. Has many sponsors, has a baby, chooses who she does the deed with, and is restrictive in bed. Sorry, but i will stick to the 20-22 year old spinners if i was ever going to consider buying any ***** a house. LOL Good luck mate.
Member #4591
08-26-16, 17:46
Anywhere from 2,000-3,000 for ST and 3,000-5,000 for LT. This will probably start another price debate but I could give a rats ass because this is the reality in Bangkok.I apologize for leaving out the bar fine. The standard is 600-700 at a go go like Baccara, CH, or Billboared but can go up if you are dealing with a lady labelled as a coyote at some of the others.
April. Two places In soi cowboy, 700 BF and price mentioned.
How recent is this information? The barfine seems a bit low for a top end GoGo on SC. This is what tiny beer bars ask for in Pattaya. AS pointed out by BB the GoGos in Pattaya are all 1000 and above.
I also believe there is some silly showcard the girls at Baccara pull out when you ask about barfining a girl.
Thanks for the reply. Many wouldn't have wasted their time.
I have been talking to her even in Malaysia, she is very nice looking, unmarried no baby, lives with a friend, over confident I think she may be even be providing girls as when she leaves she gets busy 2 days before and has told me boss wants me to arrange everything from ticket to other girls. She speaks decent English and has been to college. Has told. Me about the bad and the good men she's been with Manushy she says so no one's kidding anyone.
Not in love too sensible for that shit but it's a damn curious culture, on one hand they value virginity, dowry paid to girls family etc on other an amazing girl like her is in this industry and not bothered to hide what she does. . I had no clue that they made so much money in other countries.
I don't come to Thailand so often but its just nice to get attention from a girl from another ethnicity.
Who likes to video chat when she's alone at night. Her boss seems to look after her as she takes nights off from bar.
And a perfume could get me thank you for a week as she was shocked to have received it just made me feel awesome.
Thanks Bkkdog for actually answering. Did I mention I am so curious about that world.
So then actually, it wasen't a joke LOL. So here is the answer to your stupid question that nobody would ask unless they were in love with that said bar girl. She can make double the money she's making in Thailand if she works in Malasyia, Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, or South Korea. The reason why she only stays for a week is because she is working on a tourist visa or visa exempt entry stamp and it is too risky to stay longer.
On the other hand, her one of many sponsors is coming for a weeks holiday and she can't talk with you because she will be risking her monthly payment.
By the way, she seems like a great catch. Has many sponsors, has a baby, chooses who she does the deed with, and is restricitve in bed. Sorry, but i will stick to the 20-22 year old spinners if i was ever going to consider buying any ***** a house. LOL Good luck mate.
Franciscass
08-27-16, 03:34
Thanks for the reply. Many wouldn't have wasted their time.
I have been talking to her even in Malaysia, she is very nice looking, unmarried no baby, lives with a friend, over confident I think she may be even be providing girls as when she leaves she gets busy 2 days before and has told me boss wants me to arrange everything from ticket to other girls. She speaks decent English and has been to college. Has told. Me about the bad and the good men she's been with Manushy she says so no one's kidding anyone.
Not in love too sensible for that shit but it's a damn curious culture, on one hand they value virginity, dowry paid to girls family etc on other an amazing girl like her is in this industry and not bothered to hide what she does. . I had no clue that they made so much money in other countries..Your magnanimity Daebis in response to the insensitive comments of some grumpy members is truly outstanding. On the subject at hand I would advise caution moving forward. As you have correctly surmised this type of relationship is complicated. Time is your best friend in getting to know what is really going on. To this end staying in touch is good, meeting up is better but parting with even moderate amounts of money is ill-advised. Over time and I would suggest a minimum of six months you will know better what her true nature is. If she is as nice and as genuine as you believe and if the feelings you have persist you could then take it to the next level. Whatever happens I wish you luck.
So last night I'm on Soi 4 and finally decided on taking an African, I take at least one from Beach Road whenever I hit Pattaya, but never in BKK. To make a short story even shorter, both of the ladies I went up to said 3,000! I immediately said, not tonight (didn't feel like haggling), I wound taking a Thai for a 1,000.
Do any of you guys have experiences with the African ladies? Is 3,000 the norm? In Patts it's only 1,000 so I was thinking 1,500, maybe 2,000, but not 3,000 no way. You can get two pops during a nice nuru massage for less than 3,000.
If you like being swamped by the staff, you act generously to all, if you like to sit alone, you have to be quite aloof even if not quite downright unfriendly. I don't want to be swamped too many coming to me. So have to try to flick on the "mean" switch at times.
It can feel like a Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde type thing, where I can try to be exceptionally nice to some, and completely disinterested (if not mean) to others.This is go-go bar etiquette 101. I'm typically never friendly, respectful yes, to the staff. I order a beer and say thank you, that's it. I made the mistake of being chummy with a couple in the past and the only thing you achieve is being taken for granted, which can be a major headache. This can apply to the dancers as well; there's an older gal at Mercury with humongous naturals that I felt like playing with one drunken night, so I bought her an LD and the next three or four times I went in I didn't stay long. The minute she saw me she acted as if I BF her before and immediately swarmed me. Thankfully, she doesn't appear to be working there anymore. Whew!
Some Coyotes don't dance at all or do so only if called upon to do so by the management under certain circumstances. I'm talking about the Coyotes whose primary job is to look hot, stand outside the bars and cajole customers into going inside to start buying drinks.
However, aside from the kind of clothing they wear, whether they are wearing tights (pantyhose) or not and so on, one of the fastest and most certain ways to find out if the girl standing along Soi Cowboy who loops her arm into yours and tries to drag you into a bar to starting buying drinks is a Coyote is to simply ask her, "Are you a Coyote?" The girl will almost certainly admit it and say yes if she is a Coyote .In my opinion the Cowboy and is full of fake Coyotes. They cannot be a Coyote purely from the style of dress in my opinion, even they say they are Coyotes.
In the normal sense of the word it is a particular type of dancer who happend to have a certain standard way of dressing.
Some Coyotes spend a lot of time in front of shops even if they also dance. The girls are young with good bodies mostly, not all. Are they stunners? No. Just a very small number are really pretty. Young does nor equal stunning.
Various shops have very high barfines for Coyote that reduce late at night. Does not mean the girl will fuck.
My understanding was girls from Arab bars do not fuck. Coyotes from Cowboy 2 do fuck but expensive. In general.
Billboard Coyotes are same as ordinary bargirls except may wear a bikini or cut off shorts. If everything is same as a bargirl, they can call themselves Coyotes but clearly they are not. They dance like bargirls, fuck like bargirls, cost same as bargirls.
Soon there will be nothing left but ladyboys and Coyotes, and bargirls term will be altered to only apply to nude dancers.
Last night noticed definite Ladyboy working front of Sahara shop to pull the customers. Did not go in. Seems to be a bad development if the entertainment ladies can be LBs.
Dude,
It was a joke. And she too was trying to see how I would react.
She knows what she does and so do I, the only thing is what makes her diff is she " gets to decide who she goes out with" and " doesn't do stuff in bed which many do".
Although I did send her a perfume on her birthday last month. And she still thanks me for it.
My question was a simple one. Why does a person working already in Soi Cowboy as bar girl on salary and ST / LT, keep going to Malaysia, Japan?
And yup was really considering buying a house for her.Thai girls are known to try on all sorts of things as a "joke" to test guys. She wants to guage how dumb or sensible you are.
You cannot write that you were considering it whether you joke or not. You need to self censor what you write.
I can remember coming to Thailand 25 years ago and being very "taken" by a Thai working girl. Wasn't thinking of buying her anything expensive, but was thinking she might become my girlfriend. Problem was she had many boyfriends. I was just one of the candidates. She trained me on how to give good DATY. I wasn't that expert at the start she claimed. Anyway she chose an American dude. Later turned out he had money but wanted to keep her like a house maid and spent all his time smoking weed. She realized she chose the wrong guy and returned to Thailand.
About 4 years ago I met up with her again. Now she said she definitely wanted me to be her BF. I had significantly improved in manners, and on the bed skills were now to her liking. The problem was, she had not improved, rather had gone downhill. Put on weight. No where near so cute. Bad smokers breath. She talked to much. Very repetative. I had lost interest in her. It was more than 20 years later.
Banana Boi
08-27-16, 07:13
Since most of the Walking Street clubs don't have coyotes they have their own stupid thing called Models. I believe girls need a Model license as well. I may have misunderstood the Thai Model telling me this. For what matters to us, the difference between a Model and a regular gogo girl is that the models (1) take off their tops or are naked when they dance, (2) ladydrinks are between 180-200 baht vs. 120-150, and (3) BF for Models in some clubs higher than a regular gogo club. Imo most clubs' models are not nearly as good looking or young as the regular girls in the club.
There is no chance I am paying extra for a coyote when there are so many other choices in BKK and Pattaya. Just take your time and look around I'm certain you will find someone way better than the coyote you're considering wasting an extra few 1000 baht on.
Checked out 3 bars with 2 buddies last night in Cowboy.
First Crazy House. Most girls naked. Not really the top line up. Most of the best girls missing. Boom and Taeng Mo were there, girls I have taken in the past but both were dick scared and not repeatable for me. Number 144 Mook interested me slightly previously (great tits) but I doubt I will ever take her.
Number 49 Phraow is new girl of two weeks. Tan skin and very sexy manner. Good tits although starting to sag a bit these days. She is not new to me. I met her maybe two or 3 years ago at Doll House. A cock tease. She never wanted to kiss and was a starfish on the bed. So she comes to me eagerly, but I will not BF her naturally. I cannot think she has changed unless she deep tongue kisses me in the bar. LOL It is possible for girls to change but just not so likely.
CH now has ground floor shows. Fire Darts at the balloons, Lesbian show (not as good as at Suzi Wong), Cabaret Dance, Smoking Pussy. This is a bad development and is geared towards tourists. I do not enjoy it. Some girls doing the shows were old, and super ugly. Shows is the only way for these girls to make money most likely. I don't like to see too many horrible girls in a bar.
It is strange that CH has it's weakest line up on Friday and Saturday these days. Maybe top girls prefer to do something private on these days. Number of girls with nose jobs is getting too high these days. Could be 30 to 40 percent.
We went to Bacarra. No requirement to buy a drink on entry. Is that because bar was not absolutely full and a seat could be obtained? One buddy, new to Thailand, had immediate impression that girls were better in Bacarra. No fatties and no really incredibly ugly girls. CH has got just a few really ugly girls. However he probably had not had time to study the faces, because later he changed his tune and said he preferred the CH girls.
In Bacarra the stage is too full. Only front girls can be seen. They do not dance, only shuffle. The faces are all westernised surgeries look, with probably less than 10% of girls having a natural nose. Weird hair styles for the Japanese customers, although I detect a reduction in the stupid hair of the past. So my impression, looking at the faces in particular, is that none of them were really that pretty in a true Thai way. The girls all had bar and skirt so body could not be seen properly. Some silicones obvious. Some not. Maybe I spotted just one or two girls that were acceptable to me but far from stunning. Could not find the stunner I saw in front of Baccara a previous day. It's too full to be able to see anyone easily from a distance.
My overall impression is I much prefer Crazy House even though it's line up was well down from what it should be. However that is just me liking a real Thai look over a westernised altered look.
Next visited Suzi Wong. Most girls dancing nude. 90% of girls are "bpum bpui" meaning a bit over weight. Only about 4 girls reasonably slim: Dtom, Knot, Pat, and Yao. Yao now has sillies. Pat was one of the lookers in the bar before, but has 500 gm sillies now (very big D cups). Anne still looks good with her D cup sillies. Slim Knot would be my only choice (been with her several times before). However it seems she was BFed and customer may have been just waiting for her to dance in the oil show before taking her. Dtom and Knot are excellent for a threesome too. Dtom was already BFed, booked by a couple to do threesome. However I don't do threesomes much anymore. Getting too old and a little more thrifty. LOL Overall standard of the girls looks is far behind CH. Buddy barfined a waitress with a very cute face in a Thai style way, very cute upturned natural nose, and very nice manner for LT at a very good price. I think he chose very well indeed. I was impressed he chose a girl who looked so nice rather than a raunchy ugly type. She was prettier than the dancing girls, for the face, body may not be quite as good as some of the dancers. Of course clothed we could not see her body properly, so he took the punt that undressed she would look okay.
Suzi Wong shows are better: Lesbian show, body painting, oil show, soapy suds show. These type of shows are more erotic and not so ugly.
Overall I was pretty bored by all 3 bars, with Bacarra easily the most boring with clothed "aliens" just shuffling. There was little purpose for me, other than to check out the comparison.
Right now Billboard is another boring bar, excepting that I enjoy one girl who works there who is very cute, kisses great, BBBJs great, and fucks really good too. Billboard is just too dark and girls overdressed except for the bath area. Still it is supposed to be the best Nana Plaza bar these days.
Bars are generally dull unless get into party mode. It is purely the place to maybe find a pretty girl, play with her a little (better if she is nude), and take her away.
Roaming Viking
08-27-16, 17:56
Hello friends,
I am planning a trip to BKK soon and was wondering what Kasa Long is like these days. I have many fond memories and really want to return. SOL of light is also good. Please share any recent experiences. I have not seen much on the board of late.
Thank you.
Hey Mr E:
How are ya?
You probably don't remember the nerdy Indian dude that accompanied Mr. Gogo in welcoming you to Sosua with a cold Presidente outside New Garden last year with naked chicas frolicking in the hot tub with naked chicas frolicking in the hot tub as a backdrop!
I've been RTFFing the LOS and AC forum and did not realize that I'd rubbed shoulders with a veritable renaissance man and kindred spirit.
I'm planning to return to LOS as part of a two month mongering trip this winter and was hoping our paths might cross again. The bulk of my vacation will be in India and am wondering if you'd be interested in checking it out if you have not already.
Happy and safe mongering.
Cheers.
Shockman.
Uhh. Ever heard of backpage?
My apologies. Was meant to be a PM and the damn thing won't go away when I tried to delete it. Senility sucks!
Hey Mr E:
How are ya?
You probably don't remember the nerdy Indian dude that accompanied Mr. Gogo in welcoming you to Sosua with a cold Presidente outside New Garden last year with naked chicas frolicking in the hot tub with naked chicas frolicking in the hot tub as a backdrop!
I've been RTFFing the LOS and AC forum and did not realize that I'd rubbed shoulders with a veritable renaissance man and kindred spirit.
I'm planning to return to LOS as part of a two month mongering trip this winter and was hoping our paths might cross again. The bulk of my vacation will be in India and am wondering if you'd be interested in checking it out if you have not already.
Happy and safe mongering.
Cheers.
Shockman.
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My apologies. Was meant to be a PM and the damn thing won't go away when I tried to delete it. Senility sucks!
Hey Mr E:
How are ya?
You probably don't remember the nerdy Indian dude that accompanied Mr. Gogo in welcoming you to Sosua with a cold Presidente outside New Garden last year with naked chicas frolicking in the hot tub with naked chicas frolicking in the hot tub as a backdrop!
I've been RTFFing the LOS and AC forum and did not realize that I'd rubbed shoulders with a veritable renaissance man and kindred spirit.
I'm planning to return to LOS as part of a two month mongering trip this winter and was hoping our paths might cross again. The bulk of my vacation will be in India and am wondering if you'd be interested in checking it out if you have not already.
Happy and safe mongering.
Cheers.
Shockman.555.
This forum serves up some laughs! Ha ha ha.
Yup, the recent joke was a diamond. And byes she laughed a lot after asking.
But after reading so many FRs she falls into the typical warnings signs like. I am the guy who messages, and I may get a smiley in return. But besides that she prefers I video chat so I guessed too much English is not her cup of tea. She videoed me from her village. Showed me her parents and her tiny house. Didn't ask me for anything except the house part which didn't go down well with some people.
You did wait for 20 years and I am sorry you lost something you. Ay have thought about all these years.
I was going through a marriage with a great girl but we over the years lack intimacy and in many reports I found many are looking for that intimacy than just boom boom.
That's where girls like this one come in. They are beautiful, she doesn't like DATY but sure likes to F.
In fact the first night we did what we had to and slept but next Morning we did it 4 times and it wasn't me asking for it. So I guess after many years found someone who wasn't just into. Me but was wanting to please.
She turned down the tip I wanted to give as I payed her minute she entered my room. Some would say she was showing her self to be diff.
Openly talked about her not so good experiences in Malaysia etc didn't try to hide what she is.
Told. Me she is lazy looking for a boyfriend but she's been dumped by a couple of times after being promised the stars.
I BFed her next day same thing just made me feel really nice over all. So I guess you can't put a value / price on that feeling.
Even now when she comes home from her bar she will video call and just chat in irritating English usually drunk and opens up but I just like looking at her.
Never have I had a video session of mutual. She just did what she had to till she came.
I don't know what I am looking for, its just a bus ride Which I am taking with all my senses about.
Thai girls are known to try on all sorts of things as a "joke" to test guys. She wants to guage how dumb or sensible you are.
You cannot write that you were considering it whether you joke or not. You need to self censor what you write.
I can remember coming to Thailand 25 years ago and being very "taken" by a Thai working girl. Wasn't thinking of buying her anything expensive, but was thinking she might become my girlfriend. Problem was she had many boyfriends. I was just one of the candidates. She trained me on how to give good DATY. I wasn't that expert at the start she claimed. Anyway she chose an American dude. Later turned out he had money but wanted to keep her like a house maid and spent all his time smoking weed. She realized she chose the wrong guy and returned to Thailand.
About 4 years ago I met up with her again. Now she said she definitely wanted me to be her BF. I had significantly improved in manners, and on the bed skills were now to her liking. The problem was, she had not improved, rather had gone downhill. Put on weight. No where near so cute. Bad smokers breath. She talked to much. Very repetative. I had lost interest in her. It was more than 20 years later.
How does it make a difference if someone is being grumpy. Can imagine the ones who follow this forum would cause there are so many like us making the same mistakes etc.
But what I would like to say, a lot of us are in it for the experience, I know a buddy who is a multi millionaire a thorough gentleman lives in Germany but loves the experience of this whole Thai girl says it's better than the sure shot FKK clubs.
I have found a decent Thai girl who I don't want to marry nor have her as my mistress, Shea just a nice girl who I find very pretty and am a total face-man, she has a nice petite body and is careful about it.
The attention is what many many of us crave and if you find a half decent person who can give you that it's worth even the many dollars many of us spend. To some this kind of. Money doesn't even make a difference but some aay you "spoiling" these girls and my answer why shouldn't you after all they are girls!
Also I doubt as someone put it that she was testing me and I shouldn't joke about it, I doubt it she asked me for a 1 million bhatt house and a 4 carat diamond when she was drunk and then laughed for 5 minutes. She can play me starring with smaller things.
But you are right one should wait and watch for at least 6 months, but chatting on this forum does put one at ease, as why I posted on this was I got this weird feeling of jealousy or anxiety when she wouldn't reply and that is not good and felt like a moron.
And this forum puts things in perspective for many of us. Yes I am getting friendly with a nice looking experienced girl BUT who happens to be a bar girl / prostitute, she has "many man", and whether some were grumpy or nice they did help with this realization which I knew but needed to hear it.
Matters of the heart a weird can turn ones day upside down a clear it all with a smiley.
Your magnanimity Daebis in response to the insensitive comments of some grumpy members is truly outstanding. On the subject at hand I would advise caution moving forward. As you have correctly surmised this type of relationship is complicated. Time is your best friend in getting to know what is really going on. To this end staying in touch is good, meeting up is better but parting with even moderate amounts of money is ill-advised. Over time and I would suggest a minimum of six months you will know better what her true nature is. If she is as nice and as genuine as you believe and if the feelings you have persist you could then take it to the next level. Whatever happens I wish you luck.
Member #4591
08-28-16, 10:48
Your magnanimity Daebis in response to the insensitive comments of some grumpy members is truly outstanding. On the subject at hand I would advise caution moving forward. As you have correctly surmised this type of relationship is complicated. Time is your best friend in getting to know what is really going on. To this end staying in touch is good, meeting up is better but parting with even moderate amounts of money is ill-advised. Over time and I would suggest a minimum of six months you will know better what her true nature is. If she is as nice and as genuine as you believe and if the feelings you have persist you could then take it to the next level. Whatever happens I wish you luck.I'm truly sorry your majesty. I should be more sensitive to the monger who proclaims his love for a bar girl on a sex forum, claiming it was a joke after, but still was considering buying her a house. Give me a break! The only valuable part of his post was a question which reveals why Thai bar girls work abroad and for how long.
This forum serves up some laughs! Ha ha ha.Yeh, that you haven't mastered clicking on "Quote" someone else's post.
That was more amusing than Shockman's post that you duplicated (slightly).
Crocodilexp
08-28-16, 11:28
Do any of you guys have experiences with the African ladies? Is 3,000 the norm? In Patts it's only 1,000 so I was thinking 1,500, maybe 2,000, but not 3,000 no way. You can get two pops during a nice nuru massage for less than 3,000.1000-1500 is the norm. I've taken some from Pratunam for that much, not from Sukhumwit, but have been quoted that rate without me asking or appearing too interested. Africans are almost all hard pros (they wouldn't have gotten to Thailand otherwise), so try to read you and go for the jugular more than the Thais do.
In Patts it's only 1,000 so I was thinking 1,500.I have noticed guys like referring to Pattaya as Patts. It is fine if that is what western guys like to use when conversing, however I advise do not use it with Thai people, in general, and it seems strange to me, being a Thai speaker.
I presume you guys pronounce it as though it rhymes with "bats" (I have never actually heard it). The Patt on the front of Pattaya does not rhyme with "Bat", rather rhymes with "Butt".The correct vowel sound makes a lot of difference in Thai language (while it does not in English). Thais using English words ending in letter "s" usually drop the S as they can't pronounce nor hear it well. Therefore Patts would not be very recognisable to the average Thai person at all. My GF had no clue at all.
I hope at least, most of you avoid to say Pat-THAI-ya. That is a nonsense pronunciation, even though I did hear westerners use it plenty of times. Thais may well understand this one since they heard it pronounced this wrong way so many times.
1000-1500 is the norm. I've taken some from Pratunam for that much, not from Sukhumwit, but have been quoted that rate without me asking or appearing too interested. Africans are almost all hard pros (they wouldn't have gotten to Thailand otherwise), so try to read you and go for the jugular more than the Thais do.I took one girl coming from Africa (Zanzibar region) this year. Met her on Sukhumvit near Cowboy. Can't remember the price, probably 1500, but she was a dud on the bed so money wasted. I was sort of assuming that African girls should be good at it, but was wrong. Stiff legs and painful blowjob. Did not really like to kiss. I have had wonderful African girls before in Europe though. In future I might demand some sample kissing first. I will only risk it if she is very pretty, has big lips, and kisses really great.
Maybe not all the African girls are really experienced. My girl seemed too crappy to be really experienced. Was actually my worst session for the year I think. I can't remember too many other really bad sessions here, only a few average sessions. My weakest girl at Addict was not that bad. I have a bad memory for crap girls though, so I could be wrong in rating the African as worst. Another real cute Thai girl Apple with 3 kids was really terrible and really loose pussy to go with it. Maybe that was this year.
Overall I have been pretty lucky to get mostly O.K. girls, and a few really excellent.
IMaybe not all the African girls are really experienced. My girl seemed too crappy to be really experienced. Was actually my worst session for the year I think. I can't remember too many other really bad sessions here, only a few average sessions.Sounds like she was well experienced in giving low value for money. Not a straight up rip-off per se, but little effort put forth so the customer becomes frustrated and sends her off rather quickly. Not a way to establish repeat clients, but also not the intent of the business model.
SL.
Member #4698
08-28-16, 16:43
I took one girl coming from Africa (Zanzibar region) this year. Met her on Sukhumvit near Cowboy. ... she was a dud on the bed ... Did not really like to kiss. ... Was actually my worst session for the year I think. I think I met the same girl on the corner of Cowboy and Soi 23 one night. She told me her name was Michelle K from Tanzania. She pronounced Tanzania in a unique way I never heard before. Tan Zanya. Normally I have absolutely no interest in African girls in Thailand as most do not meet my spec, but this girl looked great with her light cafe latte skin color, her very sexy face, and her Thai-esque body type (small natural breasts and a corresponding nice little ass). She gave me her cell number and I texted her a couple of times, but I had only 3 nights left in my trip so I could not and did not want to extricate myself from my scheduled farewell dates with my 4 favorite BKK girls. I guess luck was on my side with this one.
Interestingly, my #1 gal in all of Asia is a mixed race Sudanese / Filipina born and raised in the PI. Lookwise she is a very cute spinner with a very tight little Filipina body. The only giveaway as to her natural origins is her high hair line common with some Ethiopian girls, her darker than ordinary Filipina complexion and her black nipples. Otherwise she is all Filipina in looks and personality. I have been seeing her for 2.5 years now and I am planing on taking her and my #2 favorite gal in all of Asia (LOL) on a beach holiday to Palawan when I return to Asia in 2017.
But getting back to African girls in LOS; normally I have no interest. Their reputations are not good and overall I am not into that predominate body type ie overstuffed large breasts and large ass in a too tight dress or jeans. Michelle K, the Tan Zanya girl, was the one exception. As you know, I am an American living in South Florida. We got lots of original origin African girls of multiple nationalities and racial mixes to choose from right here. And if I wanted a slightly more exotic and perhaps friendlier version, it is a short hop over the Caribbean to Cartagena where there are tons of friendly Latina African Colombianas just waiting to make my acquaintance and please me. In the 90's I used to regularly head down to Colombia. The girls look outstanding, but I got tired of the macho Latino mentality. LOS is a much nicer place to relax and enjoy the women.
Oh man! She has another customer visiting her! Na, she didn't ask me for anything, only a house! Please tell me where you are, you are sick, we need to send an ambulance for you.Really. The house is just a giant blank cheque. She will ask for each million of baht "for the house" until this guy has no more to give, and then dump him.
Bit of advice for dealing with bargirls long term, it's just like renting longterm monthly / yearly lease. This isn't a relationship. Be worth more alive than dead. Seriously, falangs end up murded in Thailand out back in the country over life insurance and as ways to settle property disputes (meaning the bargirl takes all property from the guy she killed). If the punter is worth more as a source of income, he can just use that money as leverage in the long-term rent game.
Also I doubt as someone put it that she was testing me and I shouldn't joke about it, I doubt it she asked me for a 1 million bhatt house and a 4 carat diamond when she was drunk and then laughed for 5 minutes. She can play me starring with smaller things.
All jokes comes from the truth initially. You need to be very aware that she will be propositioning you for a house very soon. Usually by 6 months but never more than 1 year is like 99% of what happens in "long-term" bargirl relationships. But you may very well end up living in that house for a few years! Highly unlikely for much more than 2-5 though. The "exotic foreigner" appeal that you seek wears off, and you'll find some other girl who is way more attractive since you are now within full access to Thailand for one. Provided that she isn't just looking to get the house and dump you right thereafter (which is what happens to most guys, who learn the HARD way). I ran into a Swedish guy during a border crossing who met a bargirl in Pattaya and bought her (thanks to his semi-rich parents who owned a furniture factory) a house and car. She dumped him immediately after and it obviously hurt him both emotionally and financially. You really need to take care of yourself dude, only you can do that and women have no respect for a man who can't even take for of himself (after all, how could such a guy take care of her, her kids and her family). It's just a huge turn off for women, guys they can con and play so easily.
Honest advice. You buy her a house but never stayed with her day to day (like a husband / wife) for 1 year, you will get dumped within 1 week of the exchange. Best to pay for her exclusitivy by the month. Giving her a giant lump sum is just a red flag for a scam. The second you get an email / request asking for a large sum of money, she already dumped you. You need to swallow that pill when it's given to you and not ignore it.
All jokes comes from the truth initially. You need to be very aware that she will be propositioning you for a house very soon. Usually by 6 months but never more than 1 year is like 99% of what happens in "long-term" bargirl relationships. But you may very well end up living in that house for a few years! Highly unlikely for much more than 2-5 though. The "exotic foreigner" appeal that you seek wears off, and you'll find some other girl who is way more attractive since you are now within full access to Thailand for one. Provided that she isn't just looking to get the house and dump you right thereafter (which is what happens to most guys, who learn the HARD way). I ran into a Swedish guy during a border crossing who met a bargirl in Pattaya and bought her (thanks to his semi-rich parents who owned a furniture factory) a house and car. She dumped him immediately after and it obviously hurt him both emotionally and financially. You really need to take care of yourself dude, only you can do that and women have no respect for a man who can't even take for of himself (after all, how could such a guy take care of her, her kids and her family). It's just a huge turn off for women, guys they can con and play so easily.
Honest advice. You buy her a house but never stayed with her day to day (like a husband / wife) for 1 year, you will get dumped within 1 week of the exchange. Best to pay for her exclusitivy by the month. Giving her a giant lump sum is just a red flag for a scam. The second you get an email / request asking for a large sum of money, she already dumped you. You need to swallow that pill when it's given to you and not ignore it.Really guys. Why compromise your standards? Would you buy a woman who has a 6th grade education, does not speak your language, and has a parasitic family a house back in your home country? Probably not. So why do it here? Most of these Isaan gals are as sophisticated as a gal from the West Virginia hollers. Difference is they are cuter, have all their teeth, and are most likely not a product of inbreeding. But dudes come here, stick it in, and in six seconds they are "in love. " And most grow to regret it. Don't get me wrong. I have friends over the years that have had successful long term relationships with bar girls. But all of those gals were motivated to do other things and placed their "farang" above their family. And all but one did not already have a kid.
Honestly ask yourself; what is she bringing to the table? If it just the wet spot between her legs and a nice disposition you are probably headed down the wrong track.
I think I met the same girl on the corner of Cowboy and Soi 23 one night. She told me her name was Michelle K from Tanzania. She pronounced Tanzania in a unique way I never heard before. Tan Zanya. Normally I have absolutely no interest in African girls in Thailand as most do not meet my spec, but this girl looked great with her light cafe latte skin color, her very sexy face, and her Thai-esque body type (small natural breasts and a corresponding nice little ass). She gave me her cell number and I texted her a couple of times, but I had only 3 nights left in my trip so I could not and did not want to extricate myself from my scheduled farewell dates with my 4 favorite BKK girls. I guess luck was on my side with this one.
Yes that is the one. I really think you were lucky to miss out. Her skin was not very dark, so I think she may have had some Asian blood in her or something else, anyway not full black girl.
I had a gorgeous, doe eyed, sleek-necked Ethiopian girl out of the CM2 club during it's heydays many moons ago. She was in the company of a greedy old lady who was pimping her out.
Spoke excellent English and made up for her lack of expertise with sheer horniness and a desire to please.
Broke the bank but satisfied an itch that needed scratching.
I think I met the same girl on the corner of Cowboy and Soi 23 one night. She told me her name was Michelle K from Tanzania. She pronounced Tanzania in a unique way I never heard before. Tan Zanya. Normally I have absolutely no interest in African girls in Thailand as most do not meet my spec, but this girl looked great with her light cafe latte skin color, her very sexy face, and her Thai-esque body type (small natural breasts and a corresponding nice little ass). She gave me her cell number and I texted her a couple of times, but I had only 3 nights left in my trip so I could not and did not want to extricate myself from my scheduled farewell dates with my 4 favorite BKK girls. I guess luck was on my side with this one.
Interestingly, my #1 gal in all of Asia is a mixed race Sudanese / Filipina born and raised in the PI. Lookwise she is a very cute spinner with a very tight little Filipina body. The only giveaway as to her natural origins is her high hair line common with some Ethiopian girls, her darker than ordinary Filipina complexion and her black nipples. Otherwise she is all Filipina in looks and personality. I have been seeing her for 2.5 years now and I am planing on taking her and my #2 favorite gal in all of Asia (LOL) on a beach holiday to Palawan when I return to Asia in 2017..
Very well put.
To put things in perspective this whole thing for our of focus on the subject I was trying to figure out. No I won't be buying a house for her, noninwont be buying a diamond ring. Can get exclusivity with her buy paying 1 Month bar fine but that's not the point.
But like Parkville summed it perfectly her joke could hold truth as she was drunk on the first night and asked me to marry her but I guessed this is how these girls would hold a conversation.
But it's not the wet spot that makes one consider a relationship it's the attention they give and they are pros at it. Last week I would wait for a like on my post. But again I can't thank you all enough whether you were rude or concerned it's just I lost the perspective, I am enjoying this long distance relation and the video sex is pretty cool.
But my question minimally I was trying to get at was. And from the answers I got was. Bar girl = working girl in a brothel.
I just thought there is a difference between a girl who goes out with a guy for LT or st and a girl who stays in a room and gets fucked by a large number of men daily.
So if this bar girl goes to diff countries to stay in a room and have guys come in one after the other so why even work in a bar. Deep down I know the answer, it's like the person who was rude said don't get too attached.
Really guys. Why compromise your standards? Would you buy a woman who has a 6th grade education, does not speak your language, and has a parasitic family a house back in your home country? Probably not. So why do it here? Most of these Isaan gals are as sophisticated as a gal from the West Virginia hollers. Difference is they are cuter, have all their teeth, and are most likely not a product of inbreeding. But dudes come here, stick it in, and in six seconds they are "in love. " And most grow to regret it. Don't get me wrong. I have friends over the years that have had successful long term relationships with bar girls. But all of those gals were motivated to do other things and placed their "farang" above their family. And all but one did not already have a kid.
Honestly ask yourself; what is she bringing to the table? If it just the wet spot between her legs and a nice disposition you are probably headed down the wrong track.
Another visit to Thermae today.
Called at Darling Massage first but nothing attracted me. Faces not pretty enough.
Very soon spotted 3 to 4 promising looking girls with cute faces. In amongst a sea of normally fairly good looking girls. Of course my problem is nose jobs turned me off most girls immediately. Focussing on two girls, checking them out from a distance. First had very lovely face but sitting with a bag on her lap. Quite possibly same girl I admired on a previous visit. Very soon was taken by a Japanese man (most likely), and standing up, I could now see her thighs and ass were too big for me. No matter. I turned my attention to another cutie much slimmer standing with her friend. Her friend clearly had nose job and sillies.
Found Uncle Volodya in there (Not sure I have spelled this right). He was much younger than me. Somehow I had expected someone much older. LOL By the time we finished chatting and I went back to the 2nd girl, she was not there. Her friend told me she had been taken. Okay So I start to realise the girls I really like, are also liked by others. If not acting fast could miss out.
Found a third probably natural beauty type standing with her friend. Decided to chat to her (before was too late). She was so shy she could not even look me in the face, when I asked if she liked Farangs at all. I tried to reassure her not to be shy and she could speak to me in Thai. Anyway she eventually blabbed that she could not go with me. No reason given, which is very Thai way. Her friend had a very long discussion with a Japanese guy and they eventually went. I don't know exactly what was negotiated or discussed. Maybe the girls wanted to be fed first. LOL.
I soon found that the 2nd girl I had admired, had returned. No more than 20 minutes gone I guess. This time I would talk to her. I thought I would stir a little, and say "that was very quick". I then asked again if she liked Farangs at all. She replied that yes she can go with Farangs but that the price is higher. Her manner was not exactly sweet. I wasn't exactly getting a possible GFE type feeling from her. I asked her how much more for Farangs, and she replied with 3500 Baht. I suppose I should not have been surprised, however my previous Thermae girl never discussed the price, and I paid significantly less. I would not repeat her however due to lack of kissing and lack of tolerating DATY, etc. Despite being okay Fuck in doggy position.
I looked over some more girls, but was having trouble finding the right figure unhidden enough to make out the shape properly. One beauty looked disinterested in all proceedings. Eventually I decided I had wasted enough time and moved on. There were girls clearly keen on me, but they were not the ones I liked.
Ended up latching on to a Nana freelancer who only wanted 1200 Baht. She was very sweet compared to the girls I chatted with in Thermae. Much better vibe from her. She was also skinny, so I knew the tits might not be very good at all. Turned out to be saggy mummy tits. She had got pregnant at 15 years old and now claimed to be 24. Thankfully her BBBJ was pretty good, once she understood to go slow. She asked for CBJ but I declined that and promised not to blow in her mouth. Fuck was nice too. Not really fully GFE. Nice pussy though. Repeat? Probably not. Due to the bad tits, and generally too scrawny figure.
Had a drink in Stumble Inn afterwards with an ex Crazy House girl who just started work there. They had a band. It was playing some songs I liked, e. G. "Money for Nothing" (Dire Straits / Sting) but they were really bad. The lead singer was too old and could not sing, the tempo was wrong and sound poor. I suppose a typical shitty Thai band. Did not really spy any stunning girls in there, except for one girl, too well dressed in black sitting with two Farangs. She was with the customers, not working there. Bummer. I would easily have returned for her any time. She was really stunning and that was without even seeing her figure that clearly.
Pretty dull night all up. At least I got a cheap fuck in the end. I failed to mention a few other places where I went looking. I could easily have gone and got my very cute very reliable full on GFE Billboard girl, if all else failed.
I start to get bored with the Thermae already. Not as easy to find the right girl as in a bar with girls undressed, for me. Hidden bodies is a problem for me.
Very soon spotted 3 to 4 promising looking girls with cute faces. In amongst a sea of normally fairly good looking girls. Apologies, I did not make it clear that this was at the Thermae (not at Darling).
Another visit to Thermae today.
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I soon found that the 2nd girl I had admired, had returned. No more than 20 minutes gone I guess. This time I would talk to her. I thought I would stir a little, and say "that was very quick". I then asked again if she liked Farangs at all. She replied that yes she can go with Farangs but that the price is higher. Her manner was not exactly sweet. I wasn't exactly getting a possible GFE type feeling from her. I asked her how much more for Farangs, and she replied with 3500 Baht. I suppose I should not have been surprised, however my previous Thermae girl never discussed the price, and I paid significantly less. I would not repeat her however due to lack of kissing and lack of tolerating DATY, etc. Despite being okay Fuck in doggy position.Syzy, did you find out from that girl how much of a "farang upcharge" her requested 3,500 baht represented? Did she indicate it was 1,000 baht more for a farang than for the (most likely) Japanese guy she spent about 20 minutes with earlier? 500 baht more? Or did you have a feeling about it one way or another without her saying it exactly?
I think it is really interesting that she (and perhaps more of those girls?) is not buying into the bit about Japanese customers being the ones that pay more than the farangs but rather that farangs ought to pay more than the Japanese or other Asians. I haven't bought into that bit either. So now we have a Thermae girl who feels her looks and "quality" are fine enough to demand more from a farang than from a Japanese customer. And that lofty "farang upcharge" only brings it to, at least to me, a decidedly unshocking 3,500 baht.
Not that I would be just fine and dandy with paying 3,500 baht for ST with her. You weren't either obviously. But from what I've heard and, as I said, not fully bought into, I thought those happily over-paying Japanese guys where throwing around 3,500 baht or more for STs left and right for even middling or just above average Thermae girls much less one that was attractive enough to grab your and so many other customers' interest, perhaps the most attractive girl in the room that night.
But apparently that is not the case at all.
Hi,
I was wondering if staying at hotel Lebua is a total bust for mongering in that area? Is their enough to keep me busy around their until I move to the landmark? Want to try to stay at Lebua for New Years for a few days, and then move on! Any and all info on what to do in that area for 4 days or so would be great and appreciated!
Banana Boi
08-29-16, 01:25
Syzy, did you find out from that girl how much of a "farang upcharge" her requested 3,500 baht represented? Did she indicate it was 1,000 baht more for a farang than for the (most likely) Japanese guy she spent about 20 minutes with earlier? 500 baht more? Or did you have a feeling about it one way or another without her saying it exactly?
Regular price at Thermae is 2000-2500 ST. I'm sure there are girls less than 2000 as well, especially near closing time when they want to seal a deal rather than move on to another venue. Seems like this girl wanted 1000 extra. The Farang upcharge may have only been from this girl as I do not believe the previous girls Syzy went with had this upcharge. Girls at Thermae can charge whatever they want. They are freelancers and some non pros.
Not implying this was the case for Syzy but often a girl throwing out a higher number may be because the girl was not interested in going with that particular customer. Did this girl express interest in you before you talked to her, Syzy?
The Farang surcharge isn't the big issue. Even worse is I am finding that many girls limit ST to 1 hour likely because they know they can turn over a Japanese guy in less than that. It is important to ask Thermae girls how long ST is.
Someone with Syzy's taste would definitely have a more difficult time finding a girl at Thermae than I would. Of the younger girls, there are definitely more post facial surgery girls made to look Japanese / Westernized than natural Thai look. It's why I can easily walk into Thermae and find 30-40 girls. I can't say that about any other place in Pattaya or Bangkok. The closest would be a VERY good night at Sensations in Pattaya or Baccara in Pattaya/Bangkok.
Uncle V told me the lineup was better after midnight than when you guys were there earlier.
Blanquiceleste
08-29-16, 01:35
Honestly ask yourself; what is she bringing to the table? If it just the wet spot between her legs and a nice disposition you are probably headed down the wrong track.Advice of the decade! I wish this could be a sticky right at the top of the thread blinking away for all visitors to Thailand to read and follow.
Goatscrot for President!
Do they work in a bar there or provide escort services or get taken a brothel like the Russians at rajah hotel.
Yes and yes. It is all possible.
I've bumped into girls from Soi Cowboy's Shark in Impanema in Orchard Towers. They figure they have the possibility of getting perhaps THB 8 K ST in Singapore. After they realize this is rare, they may not go back. Or they may go back because they enjoyed not dancing on a stage. Who knows.
In HKG they may be a 141 girl in a room on a website where guys knock on the door, take a look and come in if they like what they see.
It could be they are taking to a brothel.
It could be that their other boyfriend (s) is taking them to these places so they have a girl by their side when on holiday. By the way, those others also get thank you for the money and gifts they are sending and some of them are contributing to that house your a building for her. It will be magnificent!
Everything is possible.
Thanks for the reply. Many wouldn't have wasted their time.
I have been talking to her even in Malaysia, she is very nice looking, unmarried no baby, lives with a friend, over confident I think she may be even be providing girls as when she leaves she gets busy 2 days before and has told me boss wants me to arrange everything from ticket to other girls. She speaks decent English and has been to college. Has told. Me about the bad and the good men she's been with Manushy she says so no one's kidding anyone.
Ask her where she is working in Malaysia. This can help us to explain what she is doing there. Kinky massage or KTV or Thai House. Give me her LINE ID and I'll check in on her for you next week.
Regular price at Thermae is 2000-2500 ST. I'm sure there are girls less than 2000 as well, especially near closing time when they want to seal a deal rather than move on to another venue. Seems like this girl wanted 1000 extra. The Farang upcharge may have only been from this girl as I do not believe the previous girls Syzy went with had this upcharge. Girls at Thermae can charge whatever they want. They are freelancers and some non pros.
Not implying this was the case for Syzy but often a girl throwing out a higher number may be because the girl was not interested in going with that particular customer. Did this girl express interest in you before you talked to her, Syzy?
The Farang surcharge isn't the big issue. Even worse is I am finding that many girls limit ST to 1 hour likely because they know they can turn over a Japanese guy in less than that. It is important to ask Thermae girls how long ST is.
Someone with Syzy's taste would definitely have a more difficult time finding a girl at Thermae than I would. Of the younger girls, there are definitely more post facial surgery girls made to look Japanese / Westernized than natural Thai look. It's why I can easily walk into Thermae and find 30-40 girls. I can't say that about any other place in Pattaya or Bangkok. The closest would be a VERY good night at Sensations in Pattaya or Baccara in Pattaya/Bangkok.
Uncle V told me the lineup was better after midnight than when you guys were there earlier.No the girl did not show interest. I certainly got the impression she likes quick easy customers extrapolating, and that is exactly what I am not. I prefer girls willing to go 90 mins.
When I know where I can find a really passionate bargirl that is very keen abd likes fucking, and possibly better looking as well, I would be looking for the Thermae girl to be cheaper and have a better attitude. Maybe she would have given you a better price I don't know how much.
There are definitely sweeter girls in there. I just approached the wrong ones.
Banana Boi
08-29-16, 05:53
. Maybe she would have given you a better price I don't know how much.Let's test this out.
Syzy, did you find out from that girl how much of a "farang upcharge" her requested 3,500 baht represented? Did she indicate it was 1,000 baht more for a farang than for the (most likely) Japanese guy she spent about 20 minutes with earlier? 500 baht more? Or did you have a feeling about it one way or another without her saying it exactly?
I usually include all important details. So if I had an answer, it would have been written already. Anyway BB points out going rate of 2 K to 2. 5 K. I don't like to get into price wars nor big negotiations with girls, so I did not ask for any further detail.
I will pay more if the girl really seems worth it. In this case she was definitely not special in any way for me other than face moderately cute. Body I don't know. Quite slim.
Vibe was rather too assertive and business like. Once talking to her, I wasn't really liking her anymore. I had pretty much decided against her even before hearing the 3500.
Some girls are probably looking for an easy quickie, simply to return to get the next customer. Some girls are not that way.
We could easily say the same of freelancers on the street, except they might be cheaper. For bar girls, many of my girls have been happy with taking just one customer for the evening, but others are aware they can get a customer so easily, they may as well go for another round if not too tired.
Girls have financial problems to deal with. Some need a certain amount of money on a particular day. This is not always compatible with getting a very relaxed girl for slow GFE. If the girl is a bit less popular, failing to get a customer at all some nights, then she may be willing to give a lot more of her time. If she doesn't get a fuck that often, she may be even horny.
My Billboard girl claimed she did not get to go with a customer all that often. Her look is right for me but not for every customer (small tits, all natural). There is plenty of competition with a significant number of good looking girls, maybe not all are so sweet. She is very lovey dovey in the bar and on the bed. Seems quite a horny type too. So she is very reliable. Never discussed a price with me either. Seems to have been happy. Always eager to see me again.
Bar girls has been my most reliable source of girls, due to several reasons. Able to gauge looks, including the body reasonably well, able to gauge girls level of fun loving and sweetness, no rush to go off and fuck immediately, able to get good GFE (not every time but very lucky this year), not looking for pornstars or exotic services. Not the cheapest of course. However recently at Crazy House not one of my favorite automatic choice girls has been attending. Line up is decidedly down (for me). Level of fake noses is rising to close to 50% (according to one girl who works there long time). Baccara line up is really boring for me. 95% fake noses, many fake tits covered, bored looking shuffling girls, hairstyles less crazy than 2 years ago (fashions change).
So far Thermae has proven a place more difficult to find the right girl for me. Girls tend to be more conservative, less GFE, more business like. Just impression so far. Freelancers tend to be a bit behind bargirls for GFE also, but satisfactory fucks so far. Always clothed girls have the risk of finding bad body in some way underneath the clothing, sometimes designed specially to hide something.
As surgeries have been increasing everywhere, bars, Soapies, Oilies, you name it, it has been getting more difficult for me to find desirable girls. Freelancers have less surgeries I guess, so I start to branch into this area, and hunt for bars with pretty girls all natural. Thermae does have more natural girls than Baccara by a significant margin.
ChinkChink
08-29-16, 07:02
Can someone go over the price structure for sex services in Bangkok. It will be my 1st time and I surely don't want to ruin the market for others.
P.S. Do girls charge extra for extra large cocks-I'm a lot bigger than normal.
Regular price at Thermae is 2000-2500 ST. I'm sure there are girls less than 2000 as well, especially near closing time when they want to seal a deal rather than move on to another venue. Seems like this girl wanted 1000 extra. The Farang upcharge may have only been from this girl as I do not believe the previous girls Syzy went with had this upcharge. Girls at Thermae can charge whatever they want. They are freelancers and some non pros.
Not implying this was the case for Syzy but often a girl throwing out a higher number may be because the girl was not interested in going with that particular customer. Did this girl express interest in you before you talked to her, Syzy?
The Farang surcharge isn't the big issue. Even worse is I am finding that many girls limit ST to 1 hour likely because they know they can turn over a Japanese guy in less than that. It is important to ask Thermae girls how long ST is.
Someone with Syzy's taste would definitely have a more difficult time finding a girl at Thermae than I would. Of the younger girls, there are definitely more post facial surgery girls made to look Japanese / Westernized than natural Thai look. It's why I can easily walk into Thermae and find 30-40 girls. I can't say that about any other place in Pattaya or Bangkok. The closest would be a VERY good night at Sensations in Pattaya or Baccara in Pattaya/Bangkok.
Uncle V told me the lineup was better after midnight than when you guys were there earlier.No, I didn't mean to imply that a "farang upcharge" or "farang surcharge" was a big issue in Thermae or to imply anyone should worry about paying more or less as in a price war discussion. My assessment is the same as yours; Regular price at Thermae is 2000-2500 ST.
And the girl Syzy spoke with that night, the one he was interested in enough to keep an eye on and approach so I assume she wasn't among the most homely girls in the room and more than likely one of the more attractive ones, a girl who had just bagged a (most likely) Japanese customer to boot, who also seemed fairly comfortable and "at home" in the place, pretty much confirmed (imo) with what she said to Syzy that her Japanese customers generally pay her that exact same regular rate as well; 2000-2500 ST. That is all I was trying to point out, unless Syzy had a detail to offer about what she said to him that he hadn't yet included. Looks like he didn't have any more info on it than that.
Good. As I said, at least from that particular Thermae girl's experience and revealed by her in far more fluent Thai than most other farang customers would ever engage with her, she confirmed that she is not aware that, according to the oft repeated complaint on many of these kinds of message boards, Japanese customers are throwing around wildly inflated amounts of baht above the regular 2000-2500 ST rate that almost anyone else who is not a Japanese would ordinarily pay in Thermae. That is all I was interested in exploring and pointing out in this instance.
Hahahaha I am sure they all do.
The girl in question was a waitress well dressed and not even a dancer, and in the beginning I was told no but a 5 minutes later she came and asked for BF for the place. Next day she asked half of what she had asked for first night. Hence my confusion about how it works. She is 30 plus. In Malaysia or Japan she goes with her bunch of friends, videos of them dancing at bsrs or drunk are posted.
And Most of the pictures are of her with a friend at a hotel or in a house with a lot of other girls.
As for the house yup surely will buying her one. If one reads my first post I had meant to say that she was diff as 100's of posts are how girls ask for money, for sick cow or loss of phone or something this one hadn't asked for anything till she was drunk and said buy me house. And am glad I mentioned it at least got a lot of feed back and did become an amusement for some. All good.
Yes and yes. It is all possible.
I've bumped into girls from Soi Cowboy's Shark in Impanema in Orchard Towers. They figure they have the possibility of getting perhaps THB 8 K ST in Singapore. After they realize this is rare, they may not go back. Or they may go back because they enjoyed not dancing on a stage. Who knows.
In HKG they may be a 141 girl in a room on a website where guys knock on the door, take a look and come in if they like what they see.
It could be they are taking to a brothel.
It could be that their other boyfriend (s) is taking them to these places so they have a girl by their side when on holiday. By the way, those others also get thank you for the money and gifts they are sending and some of them are contributing to that house your a building for her. It will be magnificent!
Everything is possible.
She works as a waitress in one of the clubs in Soi cowboy.
She was staying at some apartments in Malaysia. And another set of apartments in Japan.
Always goes with 2-3 of her best friends.
They seem to be having a great time. All pictures are either group eating or at a club where many men dancing around her or in a hotel.
She says she is staying with her friend. And that it's work. And that she has many men who like her but no boyfriend.
She's 33 yrs old.
No I don't need any details as such as I have known bhee for 2 nights just that sometimes after being with many one takes your breath away.
But as we all have experienced distances eventually fades away the longing.
It's not about the wet spot it was the over all experience.
Also once again I mentioned about a house etc when she was drunk but nowhere did I mention I am closing down my businesses and buying a house / shifting to Thailand or that I will marry her or keep her for years.
Am very curious about Thailand.
And she a well dressed waitress gets to say no and then accepts and eventually keeps going to countries on jobs. That''s all.
And I would be foolish to think that I am the only one.
But think this topic has been over stretched by me.
It's been fun reading all the replies.
Ask her where she is working in Malaysia. This can help us to explain what she is doing there. Kinky massage or KTV or Thai House. Give me her LINE ID and I'll check in on her for you next week.
Can someone go over the price structure for sex services in Bangkok. It will be my 1st time and I surely don't want to ruin the market for others.
P.S. Do girls charge extra for extra large cocks-I'm a lot bigger than normal.Well I just got asked for extra by a girl because I was Western, call it a cock tax if you like. It means she is scared I will want to take too much of her valuable time and potentially pound her with a big cock for far too long. Japanese guys may pound hard too but that is considered less scary by the girls, due to dick size and shorter duration. It is true I fuck girls for too long, even if I am gentle by nature.
Generally girls do not ask for extra money for big cock. It is possible you will get just straight refusals. What is worse than that, is some girls will agree to fuck you, but when they see the hard on, they will get scared. This causes them to hold legs straight stiffly and prevent you from penetrating fully. So you can experience a bad fuck with girls whose legs have seized up. If girl likes cock, she will relax, spread legs wide, move with it, claw your back and pull your ass to make it deeper or ask you to go faster.
The percentage of working girls in Thailand that tell me they actually prefer big cock is quite low. The odd girl who liked me did say she could not have a boyfriend with a small one, but this is unusual occurrence. Big is mostly a disadvantage.
When girl is bored, she will ask you "when are you going to cum?
Most massage places these days have a fixed up front price that includes sex. You best start with this to get an idea what you can get for your money. Don't go to a bar and pay 8000 Baht for short time like one poor tourist that I met.
Read the forum. Plenty of price reports have occurred, even by me who normally avoids it.
Blanquiceleste
08-29-16, 16:26
Can someone go over the price structure for sex services in Bangkok. It will be my 1st time and I surely don't want to ruin the market for others.
P.S. Do girls charge extra for extra large cocks-I'm a lot bigger than normal.Aren't we getting deluded a bit about size here? Remember the vagina can deliver a full grown baby that is perhaps 5 times the length and girth of any cock.
Wolvenvacht
08-29-16, 18:09
Can someone go over the price structure for sex services in Bangkok. It will be my 1st time and I surely don't want to ruin the market for others.
P.S. Do girls charge extra for extra large cocks-I'm a lot bigger than normal.Don't worry: one man overpaying won't ruin the market. Even a thousand overpaying will not have any really lasting effect.
Pricing is very much dependent on a number of parameters:
* What services do you require?
* How long do you want to engage the girl's services (LT vs ST, one pop or multiple pops)?
* Where will you pick her up and where will you bring her?
* What kind of girl do you prefer (young or MILF, model quality or streetwalker, slim, curvy or chubby, . . .).
Very, very very roughly speaking (so rough it is almost useless), you might get get one pop ST session for as cheap as 1000 baht or do a LT multiple pops session for 10000 baht. I have had girls offer me ST for as much as 3500 baht plus barfine and some ladydrinks and had LT sessions for 3000 baht all included from agogo club girls.
There is a huge spectrum of services and prices on offer and as a first timer you are bound to pay some more than the veterans of this board, unless you go to venerable establishments such as Annie's or Snowwhite or Eden Club who work on a fixed tariff basis, no haggling required if you partake of the standard fare.
Manfield04
08-29-16, 18:41
Reached Bangkok today in the evening. My flight was delayed at Yangon Airport due to heavy rain. Lots of people at the Don Mueang Airport. It took nearly 45 minutes to clear the immigration. Got delayed even more.
I had booked Maya at 101 Premiere Massage for 7.00 pm But had to cancel it as I could not reach on time. I was still at the hotel checking in and by the time I showered and got ready, it was already 8.00 pm.
Since I am staying near Nana, visited [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. The damage is still the same: THB 800 for BBBJ and CIM.
Well I just got asked for extra by a girl because I was Western, call it a cock tax if you like. It means she is scared I will want to take too much of her valuable time and potentially pound her with a big cock for far too long. Japanese guys may pound hard too but that is considered less scary by the girls, due to dick size and shorter duration. It is true I fuck girls for too long, even if I am gentle by nature.I didn't get the impression from everything important you included in your original report that the extra charge above the regular 2000-2500ST rate that Thermae girl asked of you had anything to do with your potential dick size. Instead, it seemed to me that your mistake was in deciding to "stir" her on your approach with the opening comment (joke?) "that was very quick", referring to the fact that by your assessment she had only spent about 20 minutes with the Japanese customer ahead of you.
You didn't say in your original report that the two of you then had a hearty laugh over your comment and you felt a warm and fuzzy bond growing between the two of you because of your little joke. Rather, you said her manner then was not exactly sweet, not sending you a possible GFE type feeling. The calculator in her noggin probably easily connected the dots about your "very quick" comment and she quite naturally (and rightly) assumed you were a farang that would expect something significantly longer than the usual 20-30 minutes she spends with her customers in those ST rooms upstairs and that is why she came up with that "farang upcharge" idea for you on the spot.
I think it is entirely possible, even probable, that if you had approached her without trying to stir her with the "that was very quick" comment or joke, with no immediate tipping of your hand at all about the length of time you expected her to spend with you on a ST and had just been your usual low-key charming self as you are in Crazy House and so on she would have responded to you more sweetly and never even considered charging you extra.
Hi,
I was wondering if staying at hotel Lebua is a total bust for mongering in that area? Is their enough to keep me busy around their until I move to the landmark? Want to try to stay at Lebua for New Years for a few days, and then move on! Any and all info on what to do in that area for 4 days or so would be great and appreciated!I think my post got buried, any and all info on this will be great.
Banana Boi
08-29-16, 20:50
I think one factor not discussed often enough is age, likely because most posters on here are of the older variety. Let's keep in mind 50% of the Japanese guys at Thermae are likely under 30, many under 25. Whether we like it or not, we are not going to be able to compete with this at Thermae or in the real world. It has nothing to do with cock size. It has nothing to do with money. It has nothing to do with turning over a customer quicker. Most of the Thermae girls are well under 30 so imo they would choose a 25 year decent looking Japanese guy over a 50+ year old guy, Japanese or otherwise.
Hi all,
Myself and few friends are heading over to Bangkok and then Phucket end of October and staying 5 days in each. We are flying in to Suvarnabhumi Airport. We wanted to stay near the decent parts where its relatively walk able. We saw a few hotels such as Rembrandt and Boss Suite? Are these any good? Any recommendations would be excellent for Bangkok.
For Phuket we want to stay near Pattong Beach. So any recommendations as well would be fab.
In terms of the clubs. What do people recommend and where? For both Bangkok and Phucket?
Really looking forward to the trip but want to avoid the pitfalls.
Expect full review here on both locations.
RSP
Aren't we getting deluded a bit about size here? Remember the vagina can deliver a full grown baby that is perhaps 5 times the length and girth of any cock.Very true, bur in those moments her body adapts to the task.
Member #4591
08-30-16, 01:59
I think my post got buried, any and all info on this will be great.Try posting it in the Bangkok hotels thread. Better yet, how about reading the thread. As for the area, it's in the Silom area. Plenty of restaurants and some low key massage shops and near Patpong. However, we have these great things called taxis here. I would encourage you to read the forum by searching for Patpong.
Member #4698
08-30-16, 02:28
I was wondering if staying at hotel Lebua is a total bust for mongering in that area? Is their enough to keep me busy around their until I move to the landmark? Want to try to stay at Lebua for New Years for a few days, and then move on! Any and all info on what to do in that area for 4 days or so would be great and appreciated!The Lebua Hotel is not in a red light neighborhood. That's the facts, Jack, but there are still plenty of bars around on lower Silom near the hotel and you can always try your luck while quenching your thirst. You might run into a rare FL or some Farang tourista girls looking for a good time. You never know.
But do not fret. This is BKK, so the good times are not that far away. As BKKdog suggests, your surest bet is to take a taxi to Patpong 2. You will find 3 or 4 decent Go Go's there. I and other board members have written a few reports. RTFF. Tip: Bada Bing.
Closer to the Lebua and for later at night, you can try the KU DE TA Club Lounge on the 39th Floor, Sathorn Square Complex, 98 North Sathorn Road. I think there was a name change a while back so you better research the subject on your own and find out the nights when the club is open. The girls that frequent this club are for the most part young and high class Thais looking for a good time drinking and dancing with their friends. I doubt you will find many pros or FL's here, but if you have some game and you are willing to buy a bottle, you might make some solid in-roads and wind up having a great time. Post a report if you go to KU DE TA or Patpong 2.
Uncle Volodya
08-30-16, 02:33
I think one factor not discussed often enough is age, likely because most posters on here are of the older variety. Let's keep in mind 50% of the Japanese guys at Thermae are likely under 30, many under 25. Whether we like it or not, we are not going to be able to compete with this at Thermae or in the real world. It has nothing to do with cock size. It has nothing to do with money. It has nothing to do with turning over a customer quicker. Most of the Thermae girls are well under 30 so imo they would choose a 25 year decent looking Japanese guy over a 50+ year old guy, Japanese or otherwise.There is certainly some truth in what you say my friend.
It's tough for everyone to admit they are getting older and less attractive to the ladies. Easier to blame it on other things.
However I have also been turned down flat by young girls who have then beamed at an Asian guy I know is at least a couple decades older than me.
Its very tough to say because there are so few younger falang guys in Thermae. I don't remember ever seeing a falang there younger than me, and I am on the wrong side of 40 myself (though I pass for mod to late 30's).
But I am sure age is a factor with some girls there. We just don't have enough data to establish the relative weight of age vs ethnicity in girls preferences. We need some younger white guys from the board go there and post their experiences.
Problem for me at Thermae is not getting a good looking girl there but not getting the stunner I want. 555. Bad for the ego when she is later picked up by an Asian grandpa. 555.
But if you are willing to take the lumps to your ego and exercise some patience Thermae can be very rewarding.
Member #4698
08-30-16, 02:58
It's tough for everyone to admit they are getting older and less attractive to the ladies. Easier to blame it on other things.
However I have also been turned down flat by young girls who have then beamed at an Asian guy I know is at least a couple decades older than me.
Problem for me at Thermae is not getting a good looking girl there but not getting the stunner I want. 555. Bad for the ego when she is later picked up by an Asian grandpa. 555..Youth is wasted on the young Uncle V. I don't regret my age. Sure, when I was in my 20's girls gave themselves to me for free. That was nice cause my funds back then were rather limited. Now I pay, but I still have lots of good times. Same same but different. Some of my girls tell me they like "man my age." 555. I know its BS, but they lie to make me happy so I will keep seeing them and that is a good thing.
The most amazing and disgusting display I ever saw of Asian girl discrimination used to occur regularly at the old Lisboa race track in Macau before the authorities closed it down. On many nights I saw the spectacle of gorgeous young Chinese girls literally throwing themselves at tottering old Chinese guys in their 70's with tobacco stained, rotting teeth and snot dripping down their noses while virtually ignoring cool, debonair moi. I like to think of myself as suave older American version of a young Alain Delon. 555. Anyway, you have to have a sense of humor about these things otherwise you will go mad.
Nice to see you are still out and about Uncle V. Stay thirsty.
Uncle Volodya
08-30-16, 03:32
Youth is wasted on the young Uncle V. I don't regret my age. Sure, when I was in my 20's girls gave themselves to me for free. That was nice cause my funds back then were rather limited. Now I pay, but I still have lots of good times. Same same but different. Some of my girls tell me they like "man my age." 555. I know its BS, but they lie to make me happy so I will keep seeing them and that is a good thing.
The most amazing and disgusting display I ever saw of Asian girl discrimination used to occur regularly at the old Lisboa race track in Macau before the authorities closed it down. On many nights I saw the spectacle of gorgeous young Chinese girls literally throwing themselves at tottering old Chinese guys in their 70's with tobacco stained, rotting teeth and snot dripping down their noses while virtually ignoring cool, debonair moi. I like to think of myself as suave older American version of a young Alain Delon. 555. Anyway, you have to have a sense of humor about these things otherwise you will go mad.
Nice to see you are still out and about Uncle V. Stay thirsty.Alan Delon reference!
Love you Natty. That's how I imagine you too.
Yea you have to have a sense of humor about this. Important thing is we are still getting some good young puntang. The hows and whys are not so important.
Banana Boi
08-30-16, 04:51
However I have also been turned down flat by young girls who have then beamed at an Asian guy I know is at least a couple decades older than me.
and I've been turned down as well when I stare at a girl I want yet she is more concerned about her cell phone or won't look at me as I approach.
This is my opinion on the Thermae girl hierarchy of customers:
1. Japanese guy under 30.
2. Japanese guy 30-50.
3. Japanese guy over 50.
4. other Asian guy under 30.
5. other Asian guy 30-50.
6. other Asian guy over 50.
7. Farang under 30.
8, Farang 30-50.
9. Farang over 50.
10. Guy with wife beater shirt.
11. All others.
As you can see, Asian grandpa beats you, Uncle V!
I'm only joking on the above but I'm sure there is some merit to it.
Try posting it in the Bangkok hotels thread. Better yet, how about reading the thread. As for the area, it's in the Silom area. Plenty of restaurants and some low key massage shops and near Patpong. However, we have these great things called taxis here. I would encourage you to read the forum by searching for Patpong.Thanks, in all do respect I asked nothing at all about a hotel, location was my concern,you sound like you want to help but you to good for me, I've been reading for days and the question I asked after reading is what I can't find because I'll never be as smart as you, if you read right I think I know where in staying! Just not that particular area.
The Lebua Hotel is not in a red light neighborhood. That's the facts, Jack, but there are still plenty of bars around on lower Silom near the hotel and you can always try your luck while quenching your thirst. You might run into a rare FL or some Farang tourista girls looking for a good time. You never know.
But do not fret. This is BKK, so the good times are not that far away. As BKKdog suggests, your surest bet is to take a taxi to Patpong 2. You will find 3 or 4 decent Go Go's there. I and other board members have written a few reports. RTFF. Tip: Bada Bing.
Closer to the Lebua and for later at night, you can try the KU DE TA Club Lounge on the 39th Floor, Sathorn Square Complex, 98 North Sathorn Road. I think there was a name change a while back so you better research the subject on your own and find out the nights when the club is open. The girls that frequent this club are for the most part young and high class Thais looking for a good time drinking and dancing with their friends. I doubt you will find many pros or FL's here, but if you have some game and you are willing to buy a bottle, you might make some solid in-roads and wind up having a great time. Post a report if you go to KU DE TA or Patpong 2.Got it now I know the lay of the land better, will do some more research now that I have a better feel for the hotel location a little better, not really my first choice to stay but thinking this hotel would be awesome (if not the best place) to bring in New Years 62 story's up over looking the river and city, thanks so much for your input! And then to landmark witch that area is a no brainier ' LOL if pull this off I'll have about 6 weeks to kill.
and I've been turned down as well when I stare at a girl I want yet she is more concerned about her cell phone or won't look at me as I approach.
This is my opinion on the Thermae girl hierarchy of customers:
1. Japanese guy under 30.
2. Japanese guy 30-50.
3. Japanese guy over 50.
4. other Asian guy under 30.
5. other Asian guy 30-50.
6. other Asian guy over 50.
7. Farang under 30.
8, Farang 30-50.
9. Farang over 50.
10. Guy with wife beater shirt.
11. All others.
As you can see, Asian grandpa beats you, Uncle V!
I'm only joking on the above but I'm sure there is some merit to it.Not really a joke. That's spot on. I miss the old Thermae before the Asian dudes stampeded it.
Uncle Volodya
08-30-16, 06:01
and I've been turned down as well when I stare at a girl I want yet she is more concerned about her cell phone or won't look at me as I approach.
This is my opinion on the Thermae girl hierarchy of customers:
1. Japanese guy under 30.
2. Japanese guy 30-50.
3. Japanese guy over 50.
4. other Asian guy under 30.
5. other Asian guy 30-50.
6. other Asian guy over 50.
7. Farang under 30.
8, Farang 30-50.
9. Farang over 50.
10. Guy with wife beater shirt.
11. All others.
As you can see, Asian grandpa beats you, Uncle V!
I'm only joking on the above but I'm sure there is some merit to it.5555.
At least I still beat out wife beater tank top guy.
I think one factor not discussed often enough is age, likely because most posters on here are of the older variety. Let's keep in mind 50% of the Japanese guys at Thermae are likely under 30, many under 25. Whether we like it or not, we are not going to be able to compete with this at Thermae or in the real world. It has nothing to do with cock size. It has nothing to do with money. It has nothing to do with turning over a customer quicker. Most of the Thermae girls are well under 30 so imo they would choose a 25 year decent looking Japanese guy over a 50+ year old guy, Japanese or otherwise.Age is a huge factor, and among Asian punters the lower ages are represented quite well. Lots of young Asian dudes out to have a good time. Too many of the young farangs are way to "politically correct" to take advantage of the P4 P scene. Poor boys.
The age range has for sure gotten younger. When I moved here in 99 at 34 yrs old, I was by far one of the youngest dudes on the scene. And there were almost no young Asian guys. Now that is not the case.
Closer to the Lebua and for later at night, you can try the KU DE TA Club Lounge on the 39th Floor, Sathorn Square Complex, 98 North Sathorn Road. I think there was a name change a while back so you better research the subject on your own and find out the nights when the club is open. The girls that frequent this club are for the most part young and high class Thais looking for a good time drinking and dancing with their friends. I doubt you will find many pros or FL's here, but if you have some game and you are willing to buy a bottle, you might make some solid in-roads and wind up having a great time. Post a report if you go to KU DE TA or Patpong 2.I known a retired Hooker who used to go there (Kudeta) and probably still does. She probably did not go there to make money, only to party.
I didn't get the impression from everything important you included in your original report that the extra charge above the regular 2000-2500ST rate that Thermae girl asked of you had anything to do with your potential dick size. Instead, it seemed to me that your mistake was in deciding to "stir" her on your approach with the opening comment (joke?) "that was very quick", referring to the fact that by your assessment she had only spent about 20 minutes with the Japanese customer ahead of you.
You didn't say in your original report that the two of you then had a hearty laugh over your comment and you felt a warm and fuzzy bond growing between the two of you because of your little joke. Rather, you said her manner then was not exactly sweet, not sending you a possible GFE type feeling. The calculator in her noggin probably easily connected the dots about your "very quick" comment and she quite naturally (and rightly) assumed you were a farang that would expect something significantly longer than the usual 20-30 minutes she spends with her customers in those ST rooms upstairs and that is why she came up with that "farang upcharge" idea for you on the spot.
I think it is entirely possible, even probable, that if you had approached her without trying to stir her with the "that was very quick" comment or joke, with no immediate tipping of your hand at all about the length of time you expected her to spend with you on a ST and had just been your usual low-key charming self as you are in Crazy House and so on she would have responded to you more sweetly and never even considered charging you extra.No hearty laugh. She did not like my joke I would guess.
Yes indeed, I was referring to the Surcharge for wanting to take a long time, added to a possible pounding (which would not have happened). If you read my post again, I think you will see clearly I thought the extra charge was for perceived extra time as the dominant reason. Mind you I am only guessing the reason. I did indicate Japanese were considered good, due to short duration.
If she thought to give me a quicky, I certainly needed to indicate we would not be compatible. 60 minutes is my minimum time. I also do not want girls that are potentially dick scared, since that is the biggest cause of seriously bad sessions in my experience.
IndianRomeo
08-30-16, 14:11
Hi all,
I visited Bangkok for only Mongering purposes for 5 days from 25-29 Aug. First of all thanks to the all the members contributing to the forums. I took the pointers by RTFF. I chose the hotel admiral premier which is a GF hotel and also on its proximity to cowboy.
Day 1. Landed and reached the hotel around 12. Immediately went to see snow white as vetted by the veterans. Chose Nuru, the massage was nothing to write home about. The girl was very co-operative did whatever I asked for, but since this was first time, I was doing things mostly, did a 2 hour sessions with her, cost me 2700 baht came twice. We did WOT, missionary, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggy, spanked her a lot. The girl was a 6 cute face though. Tipped her 200.
Night time I tried to enter crazy house, The presumptuous rat asked me for 500 baht entry, which I being new to the scene paid also but returned me 400 tipping himself 100. I asked for all my money back and left for Bacarra, which also denied me entry citing private member club only. I think it was more because I am Indian.
Was very disappointed, checked the whole strip of Soi cowboy, decided to enter cowboy 2 club, girls are young but are max 7 one or two being 7 and all. Enjoyed myself for two hour, chatted with two of them paid for their LD, did not feel the vibe with any girl, left.
Went to Shark there were 4 whom I liked, paid LD for two of them, the coyote really impressed me, established good vibe with her, quoted 6000 baht LT, came down to 4500 baht and 1500 BF. Left with her had two sessions, in night and morning not rushed at all, BBBJ, CG, RCG, Doggy, missionary, kissed very little though. Lookwise she was hot at 8, pleasing personality took good care of me. Natural boobs see cup, firm skin, very tight body.
Day 2- Had very little juice left in me, did my own things, at night went to Crazy house again, again got quoted 500 for entry, was not interested but saw an Indian group convincing them they will order bottle of liquor and this that, they got entry. Left for climax.
Climax Awesome environment, party in fool swing, awesome in house band, everybody was having good time. But girls were mostly 5 and lower, was not interested at all. Hardly anyone 6. Spent 1. 5 hrs checking things out drinking. Left at 1:30 for cowboy.
Shark everything same, different girl established good vibe with her, paid for a LD, quoted 6 k came down to 5 but said no to BBBJ. I was not very keen so left it there. No girls 2nd day. She was a 7+ lookwise, looked very similar to somebody I know.
Day 3.
Very horny in morning. Went to snow white, picked a girl for 1 HR, lookwise 6, boobs silicon, had an awesome PSE with her. BBBJ, CG, RCG, doggy, ass, came almost in her mouth but she pulled in the end.
Night decided to check out Nana, I'd rate this higher than cowboy for gogo. Checked out Billboard.
Billboard the place was packed with crowd, but the girls were not to my liking, had one drink and left for Rainbow 4.
Rainbow 4, awesome lineup, preferred by Japs and Me, the girls are very cute and hot at same time. But being Indian 2-3 girls refused to even come to me, they are only eyeing Japs. Established good chemistry with a hot one, she was 7+ lookwise, cute good height and hot. Left with her for 4 k LT + BF 700. Had very good session, good kissing, vibes, BBBJ, and everything else. She was fun mostly.
Day 4- only left at night directly to Mandarin at Nana. Girls not to my liking, had one drink and left, mamasan extracted tip under some premise, I did not like that.
Rainbow 4 again almost the same lineup, the tallest girl was the hottest, she refused again. Talked to a cute one with black hair, no chemistry asked for 3 k ST politely refused. Spoke to another beauty preferred by JAPS, she was very nice, good chemistry, said no kissing and no BBBJ, quoted same 3 k for ST. Since the chemistry was so good, agreed to her offer. Session was awesome, very bad and heavy boobs, but she was a minx, full of energy, tried everything all the poses, gave her best, I was not cumming so she let me kiss her too, her attitude was awesome. Spent some more time at rainbow watching paying for more LDs and left at 2:30.
Day 5- went to beer garden at 3 pm, no girls above 4 and oldies. If you want young ones 20-30 please avoid. Left for chrome, had a good session with a girl. She was 6- lookwise. But was fun talkative and performed excellently, BBBJ, CG, RCG, doggy, no ass, came in her mouth. Very co-operative and did everything I asked for.
Learning.
Drinks at gGgo will cost you 1000-1500 baht for 2-3 hrs.
FL girls are 5 and below lookwise.
Sky train is awesome, get a hang of it early.
Stay near Nana or cowboy, not in between.
Oilies are good for sexual satisfaction.
Gogos are good to get very hot and cute girls, but chemistry will matter.
Have a good time.
Hi all,
I visited Bangkok for only Mongering purposes for 5 days from 25-29 Aug. First of all thanks to the all the members contributing to the forums. I took the pointers by RTFF. I chose the hotel admiral premier which is a GF hotel and also on its proximity to cowboy.
Day 1. Landed and reached the hotel around 12. Immediately went to see snow white as vetted by the veterans. Chose Nuru, the massage was nothing to write home about. The girl was very co-operative did whatever I asked for, but since this was first time, I was doing things mostly, did a 2 hour sessions with her, cost me 2700 baht came twice. We did WOT, missionary, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, doggy, spanked her a lot. The girl was a 6 cute face though. Tipped her 200.
Night time I tried to enter crazy house, The presumptuous rat asked me for 500 baht entry, which I being new to the scene paid also but returned me 400 tipping himself 100. I asked for all my money back and left for Bacarra, which also denied me entry citing private member club only. I think it was more because I am Indian.
Was very disappointed, checked the whole strip of Soi cowboy, decided to enter cowboy 2 club, girls are young but are max 7 one or two being 7 and all. Enjoyed myself for two hour, chatted with two of them paid for their LD, did not feel the vibe with any girl, left....I think the place for you to visit next time is shock, you'll get a mix of that and Uzbek girls. Can easily find some diamonds there. And since it's full of Indians you will be treated with respect. A lot of that places cater to white skin and don't bother with Indians. I'm going to be in BKK this weekend but it's my 6 the trip and have some gens waiting.
I really liked Crazy House up to 6 months ago. Not any more. Lacking really pretty natural faces. 60% surgeries girls. Really ugly shows start 9. 30 pm down stairs.
Boom 28 and Off 3 still look good. But not much else.
Caused me to go to Suzi where only 6 slim girls. Chose Knot weighs 38 Kg. Very sexy for me. Known her for at least 4 years. Noo Dee was visiting with BF. She does not work anymore. Other slim girls were Pat, Yao, Dtom, Pui, Bam. Fabulous GFE. Got her Line contact. She looks hot having lost weight given up smoking and drinks less. Tits small and a liitle saggy is only weakness.
Hi all,
I visited Bangkok for only Mongering purposes for 5 days from 25-29 Aug. First of all thanks to the all the members contributing to the forums. I took the pointers by RTFF. I chose the hotel admiral premier which is a GF hotel and also on its proximity to cowboy...IR, Thanks for the report. I enjoyed reading it and I was glad to see that you had a good time despite all the difficulties you encountered.
At times, Thai folks think I am Indian, even though I look more Latin than Indian. I have experienced practically every incident you described in your report, in the 20 or so trips I have taken to Thailand. Over time, I learned to look past people judgments, and as a result I started enjoying my time there, and I still do.
...FL girls are 5 and below lookwise...Sorry, I meant to comment on the above and I forgot. I assume you mean Free Lancers. Well, I disagree with you there. In the last few years, they have been my goto girls. They tend to be younger, nicer, more willing to please, and generally less expensive. If you take your time, you can find some eye candy there.
Keep in mind that those GoGo girls, who look so hot dancing in the club, look a lot less glamorous outside. I must have met 200+ girls over all my travel, about half of them gogo girls. I still take one or two such girls in every trip, but no more.
The Lebua Hotel is not in a red light neighborhood. That's the facts, Jack, but there are still plenty of bars around on lower Silom near the hotel and you can always try your luck while quenching your thirst. You might run into a rare FL or some Farang tourista girls looking for a good time. You never know.
But do not fret. This is BKK, so the good times are not that far away. As BKKdog suggests, your surest bet is to take a taxi to Patpong 2. You will find 3 or 4 decent Go Go's there. I and other board members have written a few reports. RTFF. Tip: Bada Bing.
Closer to the Lebua and for later at night, you can try the KU DE TA Club Lounge on the 39th Floor, Sathorn Square Complex, 98 North Sathorn Road. I think there was a name change a while back so you better research the subject on your own and find out the nights when the club is open. The girls that frequent this club are for the most part young and high class Thais looking for a good time drinking and dancing with their friends. I doubt you will find many pros or FL's here, but if you have some game and you are willing to buy a bottle, you might make some solid in-roads and wind up having a great time. Post a report if you go to KU DE TA or Patpong 2.Ku De Ta is now named Ce La Vi. I've been a couple of times and there were plenty of free lancers availble.
Member #4698
08-30-16, 23:34
IndianRomeo, I enjoyed reading your report too. Interestingly, I see you had a two pretty good experiences at RB4 and not so good ones at Baccara or Crazy. A few years back I witnessed a smartly dressed Indian guy refused admittance to RB4. He shrugged it off with out batting an eye. That was a class act in my opinion. Never let them see your true feelings. By the way, what does WOT stand for?
Member #4698
08-30-16, 23:35
Ku De Ta is now named Ce La Vi. I've been a couple of times and there were plenty of free lancers availble.Good to know. I will make a note of it and will plan to go there next time I am in town. Thanks Ivanba.
Is Wednesday still ladies night with free wine drinks?
By the way, what does WOT stand for?Woman On Top.
SL.
Randy Murican
08-30-16, 23:50
By the way, what does WOT stand for?Walk on testicles? Perhaps woman on top or woman of temerity (not dick-scared per Syzygies).
Got my ticket to BKK. Looked around a while and found a great deal on Korean Air, which had the shortest travel time, as well. However, it puts me in BKK at 11 PM (that's 23:00). I had hoped to pop inside some Thai girl the night I arrived. But, I understand there could be a long line through customs and a significant cab ride at that hour. Any idea of a time frame when it will take me to reach a hotel on Sukhumvit that late? And what would be good entry level mongering options at that time? I am considering Ruamchitt Plaza for a few nights, as it appears to have a lot going on in the immediate proximity and close to the BTS. I'm not sure if I should dive headfirst into Nana the day I hit the ground. Or do others think that is easy enough? I understand there are some cheaper hotels in the area, which might be good for a night and a ST experience. Yeah, I know there some things get going at the hour, particularly the discos. But again, I wonder if that is something you can just dive into.
It has occurred to me that after 26 hours on a plane in coach, my 6'4" body might be a wreck, and may need a massage. But, aren't those places done by midnight?After a trip like that I usually feel wired and need a couple drinks. If it were me and I were ready before 1 AM I'd probably take the 5 minute taxi ride to Spasso (Hyatt hotel on Rajdamri). Spasso closes around 2. If Spasso doesn't work out then walk over or hop in a taxi to Mixx (intercontinental hotel on Chidlom). People start showing up there around 1 and it peaks between 2:30-3:00.
Nice report IndianRomeo, thanks for taking the time to report. I'm not surprised one bit that you eventually had a good time. It is almost impossible for the horny and energetic amongst us to fail in BKK. If you just persevere, you will eventually find a beautiful woman to sooth your senses, and a little more than that.
I (like others, perhaps) am a little surprised by you not liking the selection at Climaxx. I have found that to be a really rich source of talent in BKK. The girls are much more relaxed, much more fun, and generally easier to talk to than gogo girls. It's just that they are not scantily clad, which makes judging their bodies a little harder. But in a sense, that adds to the interest.
But as I say, in the end you still found your groove, so all is good.
Good to know. I will make a note of it and will plan to go there next time I am in town. Thanks Ivanba.
Is Wednesday still ladies night with free wine drinks?I'm not sure. I've been on weekends. I know Mixx still has their ladies night on Wednesdays.
Banana Boi
08-31-16, 00:08
I (like others, perhaps) am a little surprised by you not liking the selection at Climaxx. I have found that to be a really rich source of talent in BKK. What is peak time to find the best selection at Climaxx? Want to check it out this weekend.
What is peak time to find the best selection at Climaxx? Want to check it out this weekend.There are different peak times, actually. I've had some spectacular success at three time periods, but they are all different in the kind of girl you find.
Early - ~11pm to ~12:30am
If you arrive before midnight, you will be pretty lonely since Climaxx is kind of quiet at that time. But you will get a table, and you can sit and sip your drink of choice, and maybe put your head down into your phone and do your own thing for a while. As girls arrive, they will spy you, you will spy them, and then a quiet connection can be made. You can often make a pick at that time of the night, do a quickie back at the hotel and be out for a second round by 2 am or so. I've done this 3-4 times over the years, though I find it hard to get my act together in time to arrive early. Also, you will need to spend at least an hour cooling your heels, so if you are not the patient kind, I would not recommend arriving this early. Nonetheless, if your schedule requires it, I think it's important to note that Climaxx is do-able early. Girls on this period tend to be perky, eager, and will be happy to do ST and bolt, which has worked for me in the past.
Mezzo Tempo - ~1am to ~3am
I would say this is the closest you can get to a peak time. On weekends this will be the real crush time, when there won't be enough room to even move. I avoid this time on weekends, but on weekdays it is perfect, and is usually the time I arrive. I usually aim for a 1am arrival, and I can reliably be out of there by 2 am if I put my mind to it (in June I arrived just after 1am, and was back in the hotel by 1:50am, see bottom of this post for link to that report) . There tends to be a wave of girls that arrive at around 2 am (perhaps closures at other places), and then one later wave of girls too, which leads to the third 'peak' time. But people hook up during this time and you tend to see a thinning of the crowd around 2:30 am, before the final wave of girls arrives later in the morning. Girls in this period are all varied. But they are the bread and butter of Climaxx, so you should be able to find something to your liking. I recommend you aim for a 1-2am arrival.
Late - ~4amish
The last wave of reinforcements, coupled with the desperation of not finding a customer makes this a good time to go fishing at Climaxx. I tend to be tired by that time of the morning, so I have not done this for a while, but after discussions with a couple of girls in June, they told me that it is not uncommon for hookups to occur at that time of the morning. The dancing can go on to 5 am, but you can (and perhaps should) close the deal before that. Besides the fatigue factor, I find that it is a little risky to leave things this late, since if (for whatever reason) you don't find something to your taste, then you are out of luck for the night. Girls in this period are really all sorts too, but they may very well be more eager to close the deal since it is later in the night. But they are not as desperate as you might think, so don't expect the 1000 baht ST deal to be easily accepted. Also, they have been on their feet all night (in all likelihood), and likely tanked full of cheap Bacardi coolers, and that matters back in the room. I've had a couple of girls pass out in the room, and I had to take a rain check for the next night.
So in sum, for me, the prime time is 1 am, but you could really arrive at other times and reliably find some good talent.
Note that other competitor clubs like Mixx close earlier than Climaxx, so a smart strategy might be to hit Mixx first and if you find no one, follow one of the girls over to Climaxx. Happy hunting Banana Boi, I look forward to reading about your exploits.
Link to my report from June on Climaxx: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1891337&viewfull=1#post1891337
Strange how tastes vary. In Crazy House a buddy commented that a girl was cute. She had the most face surgeries in the place. This meant she reminded me of a ladyboy or an alien. Even the body was a bit straightish for my taste. I could admit her tits looked good enough. That was all.
I ended up with a girl with better face, better waist, better ass, only weaker tits. Tits were still soft and OK for me.
Night time I tried to enter crazy house, The presumptuous rat asked me for 500 baht entry, which I being new to the scene paid also but returned me 400 tipping himself 100. I asked for all my money back and left for Bacarra, which also denied me entry citing private member club only. I think it was more because I am Indian.
Was very disappointed, checked the whole strip of Soi cowboy, decided to enter cowboy 2 club, girls are young but are max 7 one or two being 7 and all. Enjoyed myself for two hour, chatted with two of them paid for their LD, did not feel the vibe with any girl, left.
Went to Shark there were 4 whom I liked, paid LD for two of them, the coyote really impressed me, established good vibe with her, quoted 6000 baht LT, came down to 4500 baht and 1500 BF. Left with her had two sessions, in night and morning not rushed at all, BBBJ, CG, RCG, Doggy, missionary, kissed very little though. Lookwise she was hot at 8, pleasing personality took good care of me. Natural boobs see cup, firm skin, very tight body.
Day 2- Had very little juice left in me, did my own things, at night went to Crazy house again, again got quoted 500 for entry, was not interested but saw an Indian group convincing them they will order bottle of liquor and this that, they got entry. Left for climax.
.I think it is an over simplification, by others, to assume that discrimination is based solely on skin colour. CH has had some darker skin customers.
I am discriminated against by some girls in Thermae. Its not due to my skin colour. I have also been requested to buy a drink before entering Baccara. It might be that they assumed I would be a waist of space and not spend much money which was correct.
I believe the 500 Baht is a sort of test to find if you will spend money. Getting 400 back would be reasonable if you like the place (currently it is not great for me). Indians do have a reputation of being able to sit on one drink for the full duration. Japanese and Farangs do not have this reputation. The place needs customers that spend money. This is not the only factor but a significant one to take into account. I don't to go into all factors right now. I am sure I have covered it before.
Your report indicated that Indians who do spend money, will be admitted. Skin colour is no big deal I think. It is more a case of generalising on usefullness on the customers of this race.
Maybe Indians also have a reputation for not buying girls drinks as well or maybe just the girls stay away.
At Thermae, a girl did not want to talk to me. I don't know exactly why she does not like me. Her choice. I just have to find one that does want me.
I have met plenty of guys who do not take dark skin girls and Never black girls. Some do not like Asian girls. I don't know why. It is just their mental conditioning I guess. Personally I like black girls too.
Have a good time.Thanks for the great report, IR! Will be in BKK in 3 weeks and just taking notes.
Banana Boi
08-31-16, 03:50
Thanks for the times to check out Climaxx, Kumbu. I guess I will fall into the "Late" category there as my main focus will be a Thermae girl before 10 pm and another before they close at 1 am. That will leave my arrival time at Climaxx or any other club after 3 am.
From what I'm hearing these girls at Climaxx, Mixx, Levels, etc. are not cheap, even late. I am thinking I may be better off staying LT with my 2nd Thermae girl or Line one of the Thermae girls I have been with in the past.
Banana Boi
08-31-16, 03:56
Saw 5 East Indian guys turned away from one of the popular Walking Street gogo clubs last night, not because they were East Indian rather because 2 in the group had flip flops on. The bouncer just kept pointing to their feet when the guys asked why they couldn't enter. I know East indian guys are allowed in this club so they truly were not denied due to skin color, rather their selection of footwear.
Franciscass
08-31-16, 04:05
Different cultures and social norms have to be recognized and accepted as explanations of different behaviors. Problem is what should happen when these differences are inconsistent and alien to that of another country being visited. Answer, you change and respect local values. Do all nationalities? Unfortunately not. If you ask any working girl which nationality they find difficult to deal with invariably and consistently at least in my experience they point the finger at customers from particular countries. The sad outcome of this reality is now everybody from these same countries is viewed in the same way. Shouldn't happen but difficult to see how it can be any other way.
MichaelSamuel
08-31-16, 04:42
But I am sure age is a factor with some girls there. We just don't have enough data to establish the relative weight of age vs ethnicity in girls preferences. We need some younger white guys from the board go there and post their experiences.
.Well at mid / late 30's I may only be #8 in line but I will make the sacrifice for everyone next week and see what kind of reaction I get from the girls. In May I did my first stop at thermae and took an ok girl, was one of those just average experiences. My first time through I didn't notice many girls clearly not trying to engage, but also can't recall that many really trying to get my attention either. One thing I did find awkward I want to ask for some input on some more seasoned therma regulars is the conversation piece. I am used to the girl sitting with you in the gogo and making small talk and sharing a drink. But at thermae none of the girls drink and I was a bit lost at what to say to them beyond Hello, my name, and do you want to go? It just seemed strange to me to stand in front of them and try to have a conversation. Am I missing something here? What kind of discussion do you have with the girl to get a feeling for her and such?
I am only in town for a quick week and most of it is scheduled with regulars, but have 2 days for exploration so planning on hitting billboard, thermae, and maybe climax. Plus some oilies of course.
Banana Boi
08-31-16, 05:20
Given that most of the Thermae clientele are Japanese who aren't interested in any decent conversation. Within a few seconds of them approaching a girl she is grabbing her purse and off they go. I think this is what the girls are used to there. If you're an entertaining sort of guy I guess the Thermae girls will engage in a bit of conversation. The longest chat I have had was over 15 minutes with a pretty cool girl. She kept talking to me even after I said no. Unfortunately, not my taste physically. One thing you can try if you feel awkward standing there talking to a girl is ask if you can sit together in one of the dining booths, maybe even ordering some food which isn't that awful in Thermae. They may be hesitant of this since they don't want to lose their spot especially if it's wall to wall girls.
good luck and looking forward to hearing how your #8 ranking goes. As Uncle V says, we're ahead of the guy with the wife beater shirt!
Saw 5 East Indian guys turned away from one of the popular Walking Street gogo clubs last night, not because they were East Indian rather because 2 in the group had flip flops on. The bouncer just kept pointing to their feet when the guys asked why they couldn't enter. I know East indian guys are allowed in this club so they truly were not denied due to skin color, rather their selection of footwear.Thais claim that wearing flip flops is disrespectful. Can't say I understand it, but I never wear them. I do wear sandals and have been refused entry for that, to some places (not gogos). Interestingly, the Thais wearing sandals were not refused entry to one place, so it is not disrespectful for Thais to wear sandals. Feet are considered dirty in Thai culture, and of course they could be having walked through a muddy puddle, but who cares? The Thais do.
Well at mid / late 30's I may only be #8 in line but I will make the sacrifice for everyone next week and see what kind of reaction I get from the girls. In May I did my first stop at thermae and took an ok girl, was one of those just average experiences. My first time through I didn't notice many girls clearly not trying to engage, but also can't recall that many really trying to get my attention either. One thing I did find awkward I want to ask for some input on some more seasoned therma regulars is the conversation piece. I am used to the girl sitting with you in the gogo and making small talk and sharing a drink. But at thermae none of the girls drink and I was a bit lost at what to say to them beyond Hello, my name, and do you want to go? It just seemed strange to me to stand in front of them and try to have a conversation. Am I missing something here? What kind of discussion do you have with the girl to get a feeling for her and such?
I am only in town for a quick week and most of it is scheduled with regulars, but have 2 days for exploration so planning on hitting billboard, thermae, and maybe climax. Plus some oilies of course.You approach the women at Thermae the same way you would freelancer on Soi 4; "Hello, how much for you? Simple as that. If you to come to terms with the gal you can start chit-chatting from there. Thermae certainly isn't the type place a guy who loves beer bars would go. I have, however, had a few legitimate conversations with a few guys while at Thermae all but one time they were Westerners (the other being a Korean that loved hard rock so we talked about music).
Member #4591
08-31-16, 09:09
Thanks for the times to check out Climaxx, Kumbu. I guess I will fall into the "Late" category there as my main focus will be a Thermae girl before 10 pm and another before they close at 1 am. That will leave my arrival time at Climaxx or any other club after 3 am.
From what I'm hearing these girls at Climaxx, Mixx, Levels, etc. are not cheap, even late. I am thinking I may be better off staying LT with my 2nd Thermae girl or Line one of the Thermae girls I have been with in the past.The girls at Climax ask reasonable prices. I don't know where you heard different. It certainly was not from many of us on this forum. They can be had for anywhere from 2,000-3,500ST / LT. I have never paid more than 2,500ST and 4,000 LT. Clubs like Mixx and Levels however will have ladies asking 5-6 K.
How do guys rate the overall mongering scene?
I normally rate how good a time I am having by the number of girl repeat sessions. In last two weeks plus, I have repeated only 4 times, 1 freelancer, 3 bargirls and zero MP girl repeats. Quite a few miscellaneous girls tried but not repeated. The 3 bargirl repeats were the best sessions for the two weeks. However this is very low for me. I am short of regulars available right now. Too many disappeared in the space of 3 months.
I wonder what motivates other guys to just keep changing girls all the time and how many sessions are considered really great. Or are you guys never happy with what you got?
IndianRomeo
08-31-16, 10:31
Thanks for the encouraging words everyone.
#Natty I meant women on Top by WOT. I was a little discouraged in the beginning because this was for the first time I was facing something like that.
#Syjgies I understand we might have spoiled our own reputation by sitting on one drink over the entire duration, but I just asked him for drinks coupon worth 500 baht for the entry charge he was taking from me. He refused that and since I was mongering alone, I was not in capacity to buy the whole bottle. I almost spent 1500 baht in clubs everyday over my and lady drinks, even on day when I did not take anybody home.
I was always dressed nicely with shoes, so certainly not refused because of my attire.
What to talk to them?
Ask them where they are from in Thailand, let them guess yours, compliment them on whatever you liked about their appearance, some have tattoo, do they like dancing, tickle them, keep laughing, make an effort to establish chemistry, hold their hand, ask if they want a drink. Compliment whatever you liked about Bangkok. Clubbing, food, music, girls.
The really cute one won't lower their charge much, but if you establish chemistry, you will get very good service in room.
The last gogo girl in her 3-4 years of gogo work had bought a home for herself in Bangkok fully paid, and a Camry too. So money they are less bothered about, be nice to them they will repay you by their service.
Negotiation is very subjective, but cute ones will not very much.
Visited Snow White last night. Picked Audi due to her attractive face. The ladies were all wearing jeans last night. Opted for the 90min Nuru, (only because I've never tried Nuru.) In the room, Audi was very affectionate, lots of DFK, her body was a bit lacking. It was not what I was expecting. She was thicker than I had imagined. Her clothes hid this fact. Big tat on her left thigh, bit of a belly, but then I also have a belly and stretch marks. But her skills: Outstanding. BBBJ started in the shower. Continued on the bed, and she almost made me pop. She was also Very vocal during the main event. I don't care if maybe it was for my benefit. I really enjoyed hearing it.
Playing with her backdoor led me to believe she was game for A+. But when it came time for it, she stated she would do for me, but didn't like it. That took the wind out of my sail. Finished CIM. I recommend her for the performance. YMMV. 2500Bht plus tip. Don't do the Nuru there. Best to go the shop that specializes in it.
Went to Billboard Gogo at Nana afterward. It was crowded ad 1030p Chang beer was 140Bht, LD are 170Bht. None of the Ladies were topless nor nekkid. Bought Mint #902 a LD. She very cute, petite 20yr old with nice ass. Negatives, (for me,) Big tat on her back, and braces. Mint told me it was 700Bht BF and she wanted 2500Bht ST.
Went to Spankies next. They're topless there, but lots of silicone. Chang beer is 155Bht. Had 1 and left.
Mumbai Guy
08-31-16, 15:33
I think it is an over simplification, by others, to assume that discrimination is based solely on skin colour. CH has had some darker skin customers.
I am discriminated against by some girls in Thermae. Its not due to my skin colour. I have also been requested to buy a drink before entering Baccara. It might be that they assumed I would be a waist of space and not spend much money which was correct.
I believe the 500 Baht is a sort of test to find if you will spend money. Getting 400 back would be reasonable if you like the place (currently it is not great for me). Indians do have a reputation of being able to sit on one drink for the full duration. Japanese and Farangs do not have this reputation. The place needs customers that spend money. This is not the only factor but a significant one to take into account. I don't to go into all factors right now. I am sure I have covered it before.
Your report indicated that Indians who do spend money, will be admitted. Skin colour is no big deal I think. It is more a case of generalising on usefullness on the customers of this race.
Maybe Indians also have a reputation for not buying girls drinks as well or maybe just the girls stay away.
At Thermae, a girl did not want to talk to me. I don't know exactly why she does not like me. Her choice. I just have to find one that does want me.
I have met plenty of guys who do not take dark skin girls and Never black girls. Some do not like Asian girls. I don't know why. It is just their mental conditioning I guess. Personally I like black girls too.I agree with you on this Syzygies. I am an Indian and I have visited several gogos including CH on each of my trips to BKK. Never once was I stopped from entering. Only the first time the goon at the door of CH tried to raise his arm hesitantly to stop me but I just gave him a broad smile and just continued entering the place. He just shrugged and smiled back. Off course I always dress properly. Usually jeans and a tee and wear sandals. He saw me taking a girl out for ST that night. Next time the goon smiled at me when he saw me coming and that was that. Everyone in Baccara has to buy a drink before entering if the place is already full and there is no place to sit. This so called discrimination against a few nationalities and racial types has come out of bad past experiences. I know that it is a fact when Indians are in a group, specially youngsters, behave badly in public, are known to be stingy and loud, not care about personal hygiene. So one can't blame if they are stopped from entering at certain places. Our fellow countrymen have spoiled the reputation over a period of time and it will stay that way if guys don't change their behavior and attitude.
Franciscass
08-31-16, 15:59
I agree with you on this Syzygies. I am an Indian and I have visited several gogos including CH on each of my trips to BKK. Never once was I stopped from entering. Only the first time the goon at the door of CH tried to raise his arm hesitantly to stop me but I just gave him a broad smile and just continued entering the place. He just shrugged and smiled back. Off course I always dress properly. Usually jeans and a tee and wear sandals. He saw me taking a girl out for ST that night. Next time the goon smiled at me when he saw me coming and that was that. Everyone in Baccara has to buy a drink before entering if the place is already full and there is no place to sit. This so called discrimination against a few nationalities and racial types has come out of bad past experiences. I know that it is a fact when Indians are in a group, specially youngsters, behave badly in public, are known to be stingy and loud, not care about personal hygiene. So one can't blame if they are stopped from entering at certain places. Our fellow countrymen have spoiled the reputation over a period of time and it will stay that way if guys don't change their behavior and attitude.Solo travelers from discriminated ethnicity will always have a much better chance of gaining entrance as opposed to the hunting packs more especially if they have that street cred that comes with being well traveled. Seems Mumbai Guy has it. Good for you.
Asian Rain
08-31-16, 18:20
Or are you guys never happy with what you got?Unfortunately never satisfied with what I have for long, which feeds the continuous urge to cycle through a variety of providers. Having gotten into things a bit more, I find the scene to be acceptable, with a complex array of choices that makes mongering here all the more difficult. I'm more of a "living in the present" type of person avoiding comparisions especially to the old days or other venues, so making the most of here-and-now and maximizing options is my thing. Even a bad orgasm is pretty good, so as long as I can get my crack hit cum done with a provider that I wouldn't be embarrassed to be seen with during the day, I feel a step ahead in the world. No reason not to feel a step ahead here. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.
From what I'm hearing these girls at Climaxx, Mixx, Levels, etc. are not cheap, even late. I am thinking I may be better off staying LT with my 2nd Thermae girl or Line one of the Thermae girls I have been with in the past.I agree with BKKDog that prices at Climaxx are reasonable. If you go to Mixx, you will pay more, guaranteed, and Spasso, even more. Levels, I think, is somewhere between Mixx and Spasso, though all of this is not scientific.
I've had some Climaxx girls demand 5000 baht ST. Just walk away. I had one girl from Surin be very firm with me, saying 5000 baht or nothing, and so I took the latter option. She eventually relented, and I had her for 2500 baht ST. Generally, then, I think you can have ST for 2000-2500 baht, LT for 3500-4500 baht at Climaxx, depending on how much game you have and the chemistry between you and your target. Mixx is probably more like 3000 baht ST, 4500-5000 baht LT, and Spasso is *maybe* 4000 baht ST, 6000 baht LT (though it's been a while since I've been to Spasso).
So it might well be more economical to LT your Thermae girl, it's true, but if you want to bag two girls in one night, then Climaxx is certainly an option.
Banana Boi
08-31-16, 22:05
Thermae tonight. Was there from 8:30 to 10:00 pm and before midnight to 1:00 am. The lineup was subpar to what it was last month. Still lots to be had. Found the lineup significantly better at midnight than before 10:00 pm. Early the place was packed with guys. Before midnight clearly a buyer's market. I took an old favorite out. No head turns for me tonight but some girls clearly disinterested in every guy.
Billboard. Nana - Coolest club I have visited in Pattaya or BKK. Love the carousel. A fun place to be, Problem was other than 2-3 girls not much else talent wise. I'll take the top Pattaya gogo clubs and Baccara BKK over Billboard talent.
Nana parking lot and Soi 4 - one ok girl at Nana parking lot. 1500ST. Another way down soi 4 on the less busy side of the street wanting 1200ST. Most of the scary variety.
Sukhumvit between Thermae and Nana. Walked back and forth. The only nice girls I saw were the ones eating outside Thermae ie. Thermae girls after closing.
Bangkok Beat - holy crap are you guys serious? Terrible. I think every lady in there was older than I am.
Why did every club in Nana Plaza close at 2 am? Is that normal?
Gannaton48
08-31-16, 22:29
Thermae tonight. Was there from 8:30 to 10:00 pm and before midnight to 1:00 am. The lineup was subpar to what it was last month. Still lots to be had. Found the lineup significantly better at midnight than before 10:00 pm. Early the place was packed with guys. Before midnight clearly a buyer's market. I took an old favorite out. No head turns for me tonight but some girls clearly disinterested in every guy.
Billboard. Nana - Coolest club I have visited in Pattaya or BKK. Love the carousel. A fun place to be, Problem was other than 2-3 girls not much else talent wise. I'll take the top Pattaya gogo clubs and Baccara BKK over Billboard talent.
Nana parking lot and Soi 4 - one ok girl at Nana parking lot. 1500ST. Another way down soi 4 on the less busy side of the street wanting 1200ST. Most of the scary variety.
Sukhumvit between Thermae and Nana. Walked back and forth. The only nice girls I saw were the ones eating outside Thermae ie. Thermae girls after closing.
Bangkok Beat - holy crap are you guys serious? Terrible. I think every lady in there was older than I am.
Why did every club in Nana Plaza close at 2 am? Is that normal?You me, ntion that some girls clearly disinterested in every guy. Had the same experience last July, but then one should raise the question: WHY are they here?
I agree with BKKDog that prices at Climaxx are reasonable. If you go to Mixx, you will pay more, guaranteed, and Spasso, even more. Levels, I think, is somewhere between Mixx and Spasso, though all of this is not scientific.
I've had some Climaxx girls demand 5000 baht ST. Just walk away. I had one girl from Surin be very firm with me, saying 5000 baht or nothing, and so I took the latter option. She eventually relented, and I had her for 2500 baht ST. Generally, then, I think you can have ST for 2000-2500 baht, LT for 3500-4500 baht at Climaxx, depending on how much game you have and the chemistry between you and your target. Mixx is probably more like 3000 baht ST, 4500-5000 baht LT, and Spasso is *maybe* 4000 baht ST, 6000 baht LT (though it's been a while since I've been to Spasso).
So it might well be more economical to LT your Thermae girl, it's true, but if you want to bag two girls in one night, then Climaxx is certainly an option.Are you guys serious or is it a joke: This year in my mongering trip in April I never paid more than 2000 bht to a girl from Climax and 3000 bht for a lady from Mixx / Spasso if she is Thai and 3000-5000 bht if she is CIS or Latino from shock -Mixx -Spasso but for sure price was never asked from me and there is no ST in my case, I had to throw the women out next day in afternoon or evening and there was no chance I want them back in my room. I thought I was ugly. Fat - old. Brown skin and I was paying top prices for these women but its strange to see American and European men pay so much.
Cheers guys: Change your mongering pattern.
Thermae tonight. Was there from 8:30 to 10:00 pm and before midnight to 1:00 am. The lineup was subpar to what it was last month. Still lots to be had. Found the lineup significantly better at midnight than before 10:00 pm. Early the place was packed with guys. Before midnight clearly a buyer's market. I took an old favorite out. No head turns for me tonight but some girls clearly disinterested in every guy.
Billboard. Nana - Coolest club I have visited in Pattaya or BKK. Love the carousel. A fun place to be, Problem was other than 2-3 girls not much else talent wise. I'll take the top Pattaya gogo clubs and Baccara BKK over Billboard talent.
Nana parking lot and Soi 4 - one ok girl at Nana parking lot. 1500ST. Another way down soi 4 on the less busy side of the street wanting 1200ST. Most of the scary variety.
Sukhumvit between Thermae and Nana. Walked back and forth. The only nice girls I saw were the ones eating outside Thermae ie. Thermae girls after closing.
Bangkok Beat - holy crap are you guys serious? Terrible. I think every lady in there was older than I am.
Why did every club in Nana Plaza close at 2 am? Is that normal?BB you need to try OScar Bistro in Soi 11 for 9-11 pm action you will find some super classy Thai women absolutely ravishing I can say.
How do guys rate the overall mongering scene?
I normally rate how good a time I am having by the number of girl repeat sessions. In last two weeks plus, I have repeated only 4 times, 1 freelancer, 3 bargirls and zero MP girl repeats. Quite a few miscellaneous girls tried but not repeated. The 3 bargirl repeats were the best sessions for the two weeks. However this is very low for me. I am short of regulars available right now. Too many disappeared in the space of 3 months.
I wonder what motivates other guys to just keep changing girls all the time and how many sessions are considered really great. Or are you guys never happy with what you got?A shadow of it's former self. Numbers wise, attitude wise, and value for money wise. Satisfied? Oh, I used to be plenty satisfied. When I first moved here I could go out any night of the week and would have a very hard time choosing from the myriad of gals who were happy, thin, enthusiastic, ready to party and trying their best to woo and snag a customer. GoGos, Thermae, Nana Disco, the street, the Ambassador Beer Garden, Soi 7 Beer Garden, etc. The gal would shower first, 9 times out of 10 when I entered the bathroom toothpaste was already on my toothbrush and when back in the room my clothes were folded. Could take the equivalent of 50 USD (2 K Baht at the time), have a few drinks (80 Baht), pay the BF (400 Baht), and get laid. Most gals still wanted LT back then as well. That usually ran 1500 Baht or 32 USD. Gals were not any better in bed then compared to now, but they were cheap and very plentiful. You could not make it 20 mtrs on Suk after 10 pm without hearing "go with you. ' And back then I almost never repeated with gals. There was no need to. The idea was volume and new. So yes, I was very satisfied.
How do guys rate the overall mongering scene?
I normally rate how good a time I am having by the number of girl repeat sessions. In last two weeks plus, I have repeated only 4 times, 1 freelancer, 3 bargirls and zero MP girl repeats. Quite a few miscellaneous girls tried but not repeated. The 3 bargirl repeats were the best sessions for the two weeks. However this is very low for me. I am short of regulars available right now. Too many disappeared in the space of 3 months.
I wonder what motivates other guys to just keep changing girls all the time and how many sessions are considered really great. Or are you guys never happy with what you got?I am happy with what I have been getting. But I would say it is not a slam dunk that I will find a new winning combination of looks and skills every week. So I will repeat with a select handful of girls every week or two while still surveying, interviewing and testing out new talent in between. But living here allows for that approach a bit more than when someone is here for only 1-2 weeks on holiday. Mind you, I have now accrued a nice collection of regular non pro girls that I have met online, while shopping, dining, whatever. That qualifies as "mongering" in the broadest sense but not the same as the P4 P scene. It is about 60%-40% non pro dates vs P4 P for me at this time. That is, direct P4 P like one does with a FL, go-go bargirl, beer bar girl, BJ bar girl, etc.
More specifically on the issue of repeats vs changing girls all the time; I would say the overwhelming reason most guys come to places like Bangkok is to more easily rack up as wide a variety of sexual experiences with as many different girls as possible, not to find 2-3 girls to repeat over and over again. Particularly not with the same somewhat narrow cookie-cutter attributes or restrictions mentioned repeatedly by some. I think most of us would try to stay within a certain basic physical attribute set of requirements (bear in mind, "young and healthy" are the only two constants that I am aware of that cross all cultures and societies for sexual attractiveness), but after that we are open to a much wider range of weights, sizes, colors and types than 1-2 guys here seem willing to accept.
And there are the occasions when it isn't by any means about exactly what suits me in terms of looks and / or skills. Stand by for this one, guys; sometimes it is my pleasure to take a girl for reasons that have nothing to do with how well she pleases me visually OR will likely satisfy me sexually but all about her, that there is just something about her sweet nature, personality, spirit, what have you, that inspires me to want to give her the financial help I know she needs tonight while at the same time giving her a pussy-eating treat the likes of which she may never have experienced. That can be a lot of fun too and most certainly can provide another kind of rewarding sexual pleasure to the guy who follows his heart on that every now and then. Not to worry, my getting my rocks off very much the way I want with a much hotter girl is always less than 30 minutes away in any direction. But there are times when I choose a girl simply because I want to glance up and see how her cute face looks while she is cumming, perhaps better than she has cum in a long time, if ever.
DR Monger II
09-01-16, 05:45
Sorry to bother you guys. I was researching areas to stay and couldn't make up my mind whether to stay close to Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy? It seems like Nana Plaza has a lot of trannies, but more freelance streetworkers and Soi Cowboy has a lot of hotter girls and a lot of shows. Am I wrong? Which area do you guys stay in? Does it matter? Which girl friendly hotels would you recommend to stay in? Thanks.
Wolvenvacht
09-01-16, 07:33
Sorry to bother you guys. I was researching areas to stay and couldn't make up my mind whether to stay close to Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy? It seems like Nana Plaza has a lot of trannies, but more freelance streetworkers and Soi Cowboy has a lot of hotter girls and a lot of shows. Am I wrong? Which area do you guys stay in? Does it matter? Which girl friendly hotels would you recommend to stay in? Thanks.Both areas are so close together (one stop on the SKytrain only) that it really doesn't matter. Even on foot, especially at night, it is a leisurely and easy walk from one to the other.
The worst you can do, relatively speaking, is having your hotel somewhat half-way between Nana and Soi Cowboy: they you always have to walk, whereas if you are close to one or the other, you have the choice to take the Skytrain.
Which hotels are girl friendly and come recommended? As far as I know almost all hotels in that area are girl friendly (if in doubt email them and ask about their joiner policy) and recommendations are difficult to make: what do you need in the hotel and what budget do you have are the first questions you need to answer for yourself. Then go to a site such as www.booking.com or similar, fill in the form and tick the boxes of the amenities and price level you wish and let their database server do the work for you.
For what it's worth, I have always been well served by Citypoint Hotel (near Soi Cowboy): citypointhotel.com/.
Gannaton48
09-01-16, 08:06
Last July was having a look at Oskar (SOi11), some beautiful girls but was told by customer that, while being there to be picked-up, these girls expect you to go first to a nearby disco and possibly late in the night join you for fuck. Is this correct? I am too old to go to disco and don't dance, moreover! Will be back in BKK next month, so would appreciate receving your experiences at Oskar. Thanks!
The worst you can do, relatively speaking, is having your hotel somewhat half-way between Nana and Soi Cowboy: they you always have to walk, whereas if you are close to one or the other, you have the choice to take the Skytrain.
I can't really agree. My Buddy stays at On 8. I guess its right at Nana BTS. So is Soi 11. Even half way between Nana BTS and Asoke BTS, its still an easy walk, or motorcycle ride to the BTS. Did you know the two BTS stations are only 600 metres apart. So half way is only 300 metres from BTS. Weather is not that hot. Staying in between is still better than staying in Soi 4, which significant problems for taxis to get in and out. Radison Blu other side of Asoke is virtually the perfect location for my requirements (about 400 metres from BTS and MRT), even though I have been visiting Nana more frequently. Other nearby Hotels also good. Westin and Terminal 21 are also good location as are some other Soi 19 Hotels like Silq, etc.
I think the worst choice is to stay very deep down some Soi, a long way from Sukhumvit, unless you are always happy to grab a motorcycle to send you to desired place. Just my personal opinion. Deep in a Soi adds much distance to get to the BTS.
Then it is just a case of choose a Hotel that is either classy (Column is as "high" as I go LOL), or modern good value for money (Mermaid). Both are 500 metres from BTS station, and similar distance to MRT (underground).
There are a hell of a lot of good options.
Sorry to bother you guys. I was researching areas to stay and couldn't make up my mind whether to stay close to Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy? It seems like Nana Plaza has a lot of trannies, but more freelance streetworkers and Soi Cowboy has a lot of hotter girls and a lot of shows. Am I wrong? Which area do you guys stay in? Does it matter? Which girl friendly hotels would you recommend to stay in? Thanks.It is a little bit hard to answer, because you don't say how you like to meet girls and what types you like. I usually try to specify my personal biases, even very repetitively so, so that the reader can know if my post has relevance to them or not.
Some guys hate bars and like massage parlors. The girls are not so good looking in most MPs (I regularly fail to choose a girl and move on), but the service and skills may be better.
It is true that Nana has a lot more freelancers and Ladyboys. This is not a problem. Billboard, Angel Witch, Spankies, etc. In Nana have shows. Personally, shows don't motivate me much, since years ago at Long gun when they had some really professional and beautiful dancers, when I really liked the shows.
Most erotic shows: Suzi Wong (Cowboy). Most ugly shows, like cigarette smoking pussy (several bars in Cowboy).
See Hotels thread for recommended Hotels. Many have been recommended.
More specifically on the issue of repeats vs changing girls all the time; I would say the overwhelming reason most guys come to places like Bangkok is to more easily rack up as wide a variety of sexual experiences with as many different girls as possible, not to find 2-3 girls to repeat over and over again. Particularly not with the same somewhat narrow cookie-cutter attributes or restrictions mentioned repeatedly by some. I think most of us would try to stay within a certain basic physical attribute set of requirements (bear in mind, "young and healthy" are the only two constants that I am aware of that cross all cultures and societies for sexual attractiveness), but after that we are open to a much wider range of weights, sizes, colors and types than 1-2 guys here seem willing to accept.
I am in the weird category of living here 4 months per year. Work mostly overseas, sometimes can bring work from Thailand. Experienced but not having all the time in the world to spend on girls. Hence largely STs and not looking for "dates". I admit I just want the girls mostly for sex, excepting when I really click with a girl. Took a girl I was a bit too hooked on to Singapore for a few days last year and was never even slightly bored by her. She was far smarter than the average working girl. She would make an ideal partner although a bit costly I suspect, so for a rich man.
I would rather have limited variety. A set of six fabulous girls would be plenty for me, and have at times concentrated on just 1 girl or 2, due to being rather superior to the rest.
My specs have become narrow, due to changing Thailand. 28 years ago met my first Thai girl and was hooked. Cute nice body good natural tits. Funny girl. Then came to Thailand and experienced the real Thai girls. Always liked real Asian looks since I was a teenager and saw James Bond "You Only Live Twice" and even earlier movies featuring Asian girls.
Liking pretty slim but curvy natural Asian girls, no sillies, no nose job, was a quite broad spec, covering most bargirls and good percentage of Soapy girls, where in the modern day it has become a narrow spec. A lot of young fatties, a lot of surgeries. I don't mind surgeries if well done and not abundantly obvious. Unfortunately 90% are ugly jobs. Many girls look like Aliens to my eye rather than human. Even bargirls that look great can give the bad vibe as we all know and I then send them back without Barfine. Others write how irritated they are by these bargirls. Doesn't worry me. If the vibe or chemistry is wrong, no problem to send them away and consider some other girl. No need to pull the trigger till the girl feels like a match. I did not take a Crazy House girl for over two weeks, and last one was a repeat. No matches found of girl with right looks and chemistry that have not already tried before. Yet found a great girl in Billboard on first try.
Recently a buddy selected a waitress from the bar. She had a really nice tan face, and lovely manner (obvious Buriram type). Very cute (not broad) nose. Very sweet even without actually having more than a few words with her. I think she went LT very cheaply. She was a little bit too broad in the body (not naked) to fit my "Cookie Cutter" spec, but she was so lovely, I am considering trying her in the future. So we all have to make compromises with our ideal spec to get the wonderful girls.
It is always wise to state our biases in reports, so readers can make allowances, especially if they completely different specs. So Baccara is full of aliens for me, but full of lovelies for someone else. Not many girls there actually have really pretty faces. It's more young girls with good bodies, modified westernised looking faces, no fatties. The Thermae girls look better than Baccara girls to me, yet still very few really appeal strongly in both looks (plenty of surgeries girls and chubby girls ruled out) and manner, and then performance could still be really weak. Girls don't like long chats in there in general, so little time to assess chemistry carefully. I get the impression that Thermae girls in general are looking for quick turnover, thinking more about getting the next customer, than anything else. So while I will give Thermae some more chances, it has not been so great for me so far. I will soon change my tune once I find some girls I really want to repeat.
There is quite an advantage to bargirls who drink alcohol, and release their inhibtions, and can be very passionate girls who seem to love sex. Thermae girls are generally not drinking, and maybe relatively conservative. Obviously Pornstar-shop MP girls are the least conservative, but I have very few girls left in MPs that I want to repeat. Still I will go to MPs and look for the new regulars. Am trying a few freelancers as well. Hoping to find some regular GFEs there but still good looks (not quite stunners). I don't have the time for discos, clubs and dates, and don't want girls to think there is any real relationship beyond the sex, in most cases. Some become good friends in addition to sex. I have a regular GF, so cannot get into other relationships.
Guys who like services should be focussing on the pornstar shop MPs. Guys who like cheap should be focussing on the freelancers. Guys who want freebies should be focussing on the chat and dating sites. Escorts for the better looking expensive pornstars (I am not sure since did not try). Bar and club girls for better looking girls and more chance to assess chemistry, I guess. Soapies for better looking girls and the very non rushed experience.
The really super stunning girls just do not last long, unless they are not nice enough character to maintain a BF. Even I have the contacts of some, they will soon change their phone number and not answer any more due to new man (or sugar daddy) requiring them to give up P4 P. Most stunners disappear within 6 months, of the first meeting, and in nearly 50% of cases, I never even got to a 2nd try. Some got married or went into permanent relationship, or went overseas.
I think the worst choice is to stay very deep down some Soi, a long way from Sukhumvit, unless you are always happy to grab a motorcycle to send you to desired place. Just my personal opinion. Deep in a Soi adds much distance to get to the BTS.Good advice folks forget that Bangkok can be extremely hot and humid, or raining like crazy. The closer your lodging is to Suk and a BTS / MRT station the better.
SL.
Charles Dickin
09-01-16, 10:30
If anyone's feeling helpful I'd like some advice please for how much to pay a bar girl under unusual circumstances for me. I don't want any trouble from bar security, police, tourist police or price police, thank you.
How much should I give to a bar girl J that I didn't barfine. She was taking a night off and said she didn't want to fuck for money tonight, her own words. She argue with mamasan in the street about this when mama try to make me barfine someone not technically at work. J did "borrow" 1000 baht from me to barfine her friend so they can have a heart to heart about friend's cheating boyfriend. No Thai phrase for double standards then.
At Mixx, entry and drinks cost me about 2000. J brought one of her podium dancer friends who immediately hit me for a 300 baht tequila and then tried to order 4 more. I bought only 1, for J, because podium had had hers and J's friend didn't want one. Podium girl drank J's.
After Mixx J and friend wanted street food, cost me 310, then J asked to come back to my hotel, stayed one hour talking nonsense and scrolling through her phone, no naughty business, then left saying she'd be back in 20 minutes.
She didn't return but rang at 11 pm the following night, came over shortly, spent another hour or so talking nonsense and playing with her phone. One thing I could understand her saying was her American ex-boyfriend only wanted to give her 5000 per week. I think that was 2 years ago. Soon J went to sleep, again no naughtiness, woke up at 7 am and demanded first 4000 baht then another 200 for a taxi.
I gave her the 200, didn't ask, or get offered, the 1000 back. In total I spent over 3000 the first night on food, drink, and taxis for J, her friend, her Mixx ex-colleagues.
I still feel I should give J something for her time. Or is that too much?
Any urgent suggestions before she comes back with ex-boyfriend, bar security, police, tourist police, hotel police, and price police?
I'm leaving Thailand tomorrow. I hope.
Thanks!
Work mostly overseas, sometimes can bring work from Thailand. .That should have read I can sometimes perform OS work from a Thailand location. So working OS in "virtual" mode. You can see I am not working now though.
Don't forget that Bangkok can be extremely hot and humid, or raining like crazy. The closer your lodging is to Suk and a BTS / MRT station the better.
SL.Yes I live only 50 metres from Sukhumvit so can get a taxi easily when pouring with rain, however that can be said of any major Soi with good taxi service. Its 300 metres to the BTS, which is too far if really pouring with rain, normally okay. I went to BTS other day with umbrella but was certainly quite damp from thigh down (even though not drenched). If very hot, wet pants will dry very quick. If its not hot they may take a while. I was heading to Billboard so ended up sitting in there with rather damp jeans.
You can get a taxi on Sukhumvit Soi 4 but it is more problematic to get to where you want to go from there. One way roads, forbidden turns problems, heavy traffic. So not a desirable location to stay for me, unless my target places are all located there.
The rain in Thailand can come down like a bucket of water is being poured on you. This is the tropics. Umbrella is essential even if not totally effective. When it really pours, very few people indeed try to walk anywhere. Afterwards rollup the pants (or wear shorts) and wade through the flooded streets (some flooded parts). The drainage system does not work well. Bangkok is rather little above sea level. There are grates to underground pipes but when the pipe is full and not flowing much the street water does not go down. Walking at least ankle deep in water is not too uncommon in rainy season just starting now. So who is going to wear shoes and socks LOL?
If going to a club, you might have to have shoes and socks in a bag and put them on when you get there, if any chances of flooding. LOL.
Last July was having a look at Oskar (SOi11), some beautiful girls but was told by customer that, while being there to be picked-up, these girls expect you to go first to a nearby disco and possibly late in the night join you for fuck. Is this correct? I am too old to go to disco and don't dance, moreover! Will be back in BKK next month, so would appreciate receving your experiences at Oskar. Thanks!It depends on the girl but in general I'd say most are ready for a night out, whether it's staying at Oskar or heading elsewhere. It's definitely not a "fishbowl" scene.
Member #4591
09-01-16, 17:13
If anyone's feeling helpful I'd like some advice please for how much to pay a bar girl under unusual circumstances for me. I don't want any trouble from bar security, police, tourist police or price police, thank you.
How much should I give to a bar girl J that I didn't barfine. She was taking a night off and said she didn't want to fuck for money tonight, her own words. She argue with mamasan in the street about this when mama try to make me barfine someone not technically at work. J did "borrow" 1000 baht from me to barfine her friend so they can have a heart to heart about friend's cheating boyfriend. No Thai phrase for double standards then.
At Mixx, entry and drinks cost me about 2000. J brought one of her podium dancer friends who immediately hit me for a 300 baht tequila and then tried to order 4 more. I bought only 1, for J, because podium had had hers and J's friend didn't want one. Podium girl drank J's.
After Mixx J and friend wanted street food, cost me 310, then J asked to come back to my hotel, stayed one hour talking nonsense and scrolling through her phone, no naughty business, then left saying she'd be back in 20 minutes.
She didn't return but rang at 11 pm the following night, came over shortly, spent another hour or so talking nonsense and playing with her phone. One thing I could understand her saying was her American ex-boyfriend only wanted to give her 5000 per week. I think that was 2 years ago. Soon J went to sleep, again no naughtiness, woke up at 7 am and demanded first 4000 baht then another 200 for a taxi.
I gave her the 200, didn't ask, or get offered, the 1000 back. In total I spent over 3000 the first night on food, drink, and taxis for J, her friend, her Mixx ex-colleagues.
I still feel I should give J something for her time. Or is that too much?
Any urgent suggestions before she comes back with ex-boyfriend, bar security, police, tourist police, hotel police, and price police?
I'm leaving Thailand tomorrow. I hope.
Thanks!In Thailand medical attention is cheap so don't worry. All major hospitals except credit cards and have prvate rooms available.
Last July was having a look at Oskar (SOi11), some beautiful girls but was told by customer that, while being there to be picked-up, these girls expect you to go first to a nearby disco and possibly late in the night join you for fuck. Is this correct? I am too old to go to disco and don't dance, moreover! Will be back in BKK next month, so would appreciate receving your experiences at Oskar. Thanks!No need for all that BS and crap: Choose: Offer her a drink mostly red or white wine: Chit chat a bit maybe food Pick and go home: As simple as the clubs just with less music and restaurant feel: Women start to arrive there by 8 pm so its a early night pick up place.
Cheers.
Member #4698
09-01-16, 17:47
How much should I give to a bar girl J that I didn't barfine. She was taking a night off and said she didn't want to fuck for money tonight, her own words. She argue with mamasan in the street about this when mama try to make me barfine someone not technically at work. J did "borrow" 1000 baht from me to barfine her friend...
At Mixx, entry and drinks cost me about 2000 ... After Mixx J and friend wanted street food, cost me 310, then J asked to come back to my hotel, stayed one hour talking nonsense and scrolling through her phone, no naughty business ...
She didn't return but rang at 11 pm the following night, came over shortly, spent another hour or so talking nonsense and playing with her phone.
I gave her the 200, didn't ask, or get offered, the 1000 back. In total I spent over 3000 the first night on food, drink, and taxis for J, her friend, her Mixx ex-colleagues.
I still feel I should give J something for her time. Or is that too much?Relax Charles. You were generous with the girl and her friends on your sexless night out at Mixx. I probably would have bought more Tequilas for the one girl to loosen her up and expect some boom boom time in return, but I would probably not have sprung for the other girl's barfine unless I knew both girls pretty well. So we both would have spent roughly the same amount of money although in different ways and with different results. On the 2nd night with the same no sex girl, you were a gentleman to give her taxi money home. So the bottom line is you don't owe this girl anything and I would stop all communications with her if she begins to ask you for any more money especially without offering any honey. It is that simple. Unless you really like her for some reason that I don't comprehend. And in the latter case I would advise you to proceed carefully and prudently.
As for that 1000 bt "loan". Ha Ha. Its gone, man. You had a night out at Mixx with some sexy bar girls and I hope you had a good time, so forget about it. Water under the bridge. But keep it in mind the next time you visit BKK and learn from your experience. Remember, unless you have a really good ongoing relationship with a particular bar girl, whatever you "loan" her is spent money. Say Bye Bye.
I have a few girls that I trust with money. I could send them out to buy a bottle of Jack, for example, and they would return in a timely manner with the correct change, but if a bar girl asks to "borrow" money for what ever reason, they are essentially asking for a gift or tip. And by the way, none of my special long time friends ever ask for wire transfers or "monetary gifts" I would say no if they asked and sadly take points off their score. I am, however, very generous to my favorite recurring gals by tipping them well, bringing them nice presents from the USA, and remembering their birthdays. But for "new" girls, I keep it simple and straight forward: barfine, drinks, Boom Boom, payment for services rendered, and a tip if warranted, then possibly more drinks and possibly dinner with the girl if I feel like it.
Charles Dickin
09-01-16, 19:17
In Thailand medical attention is cheap so don't worry. All major hospitals except credit cards and have prvate rooms available.Thank heaven for exceptions then.
I have excepted the hotel to provide an armed cavalcade to take me to an airport, can't say which one for security reasons. Have spent the evening watching Olympus and London Has Fallen as training.
Charles Dickin
09-01-16, 19:35
Thank you Sir Natty, may your camels never lose their humps.
I am now relaxed and no poorer, perhaps even richer for the experience. Do bar girls have to be so difficult? Maybe I'm just a vulture magnet.
I did enjoy the dancing at Mixx and there was a young woman there that Mr D-Cups would have been all over. I liked watching her trying to dance. The motion was mesmerizing if you ignored the arm movements.
I liked J because she looked elegant and a little sexy and if I'm honest because she looked a hell of a lot like a girl I used to be real real crazy about. But I've gone right off J now. Not sure I should set foot in her bar for a while for safety reasons, though I think she's intending to leave anyway because she doesn't like the nudity. I didn't like the nudity either as I seem to have similar taste to Syzgies.
I knew I was kissing my 1000 goodbye the moment I was asked for it. And I was sure if I'd asked for it back outside there would have been some type of drama so let it go. I had hoped it might come back as karma, preferably good and horizontally.
J and her friend had already had a skinful before they hooked me and J was most of the way through the second bottle of vodka lime when her tequila came. It's possible she told her podium friend to drink it. I would have bought another round if I hadn't been running out of money. Though as you say, I could have spent the "loan" differently. Besides because J was adamant about no sex that night from when she first stepped outside, I didn't think I could lubricate her to be more willing. Not sure I'd want to. I hear it can get complicated if a drunk girl says she didn't remember consenting. And I didn't want to complicate things as they were oh so simple already.
Crazy House line up significantly better tonight. So has been quite weak most nights but not all.
Some nice girls present for looks: Oom 91, Kratae, Jane 4, Bell, Taengmo 62, No. 93 forget name, Off 3, also quite a number of other pretty girls for those not allergic to nose jobs.
Not many silicone sets thankfully, tonight. Line up varies a lot.
Many beautiful nude girls dancing very sexy or disco style showing off pussy too. Not just shuffling girls. My girl was a bit drunk so forgot to be shy. Touching allowed since she knows me long time. We have fucked plenty of times.
Banana Boi
09-01-16, 21:20
Arrived at Thermae at midnight. Lineup was a bit underwhelming tonight. The worst I have seen Thermae. I only saw 5 girls I liked way down from 30-40 that I see some nights. I guess that's expected at Thermae since it's all freelancers with no set schedule. In addition, the place was packed with a sea of Japanese guys some very drunk and rude to the girls.
Banana Boi
09-01-16, 21:30
Walked around Soi 24 and 24/1 today. Can Can likely had the most number of decent girls and the best overall lineup. I decided to venture on to complete my tour so didn't stay at Can Can. There was a nice looking girl named Nadia who attracted me to Club 102. The set up if the same as places like Club 007, Pirates, etc. On Soi Full Love Inn in Pattaya. Decent room with shower in room. Club 102 had about 10 girls. None of them top optics but most passable. Nadia was in top 2 and since she attracted me in to the club I decided it was only fair to go with her. Session was typical massage stuff for me. Massages generally bore me. Same routine no GFE feel. Rather get to know a gogo or bar girl for a bit before barfining her. Massage was weak. BJ was great except for the fact she refused to do BBBJ no matter how hard I tried to convince her. Sex was ok. Nice girl. Good enough experience but the general lack of full out DFK, BBBJ, and GFE left me unfulfilled. Imo there are better options for just a bit more money than my 2790 baht price tag for 90 minutes, which I cut short.
Some of the girls in the more discussed massage joints on here were not good at all.
Eszpresszo
09-01-16, 21:36
Arrived at Thermae at midnight. Lineup was a bit underwhelming tonight. The worst I have seen Thermae. I only saw 5 girls I liked way down from 30-40 that I see some nights. I guess that's expected at Thermae since it's all freelancers with no set schedule. In addition, the place was packed with a sea of Japanese guys some very drunk and rude to the girls.Isn't that when a polite Westerner seems like a preferred customer?
Banana Boi
09-02-16, 04:31
Isn't that when a polite Westerner seems like a preferred customer?I don't think a Westerner polite or not is ever a preferred customer at Thermae by most of the younger girls. they will attract the over 25 girls for sure.
Had to laugh last night since another Farang showed up in a wife beater shirt and skateboard shorts. Pure class.
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