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What do you get if you reverse Smoothie?Wow. I would have never noticed that.
What do you get if you reverse Smoothie? Very strange.
Asian Rain
12-29-16, 08:50
My problem with Beer Garden on Soi 7 wasn't so much the lady's ages but that I never found a woman in there committed to being very good at their supposed job. <snip> Oh, and I hated what those giant wind-tunnel fans did to my hair. LOL. Hopefully, whoever takes over in whatever business will have the decency to pop for a little aircon unit.I doubt that whatever development might replace Soi 7 Beer Garden will be monger-oriented, but rather the steamroller of tourist and shopper-oriented gentrification will continue as what happened to the shops and food stalls opposite. On a separate note, I was just going through Asoke BTS today and saw that the entire plot which had Hemingway's restaurant and bar is now flattened, so say goodbye to their tasty burger and shrimp cocktail and say Hello, to something with a Starbucks in the ground floor. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.
The next three times I went in there, I did a walk around and straight out the door again.Same experience. Different days. Just the state of the Bangkok world. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain
Asian Rain
12-29-16, 08:53
Very strange.Not a major mystery. Unless I am wrong, EihTooms has the nickname "smoothie" on another monger forum. Enjoy Thailand, AsianRain.
I doubt that whatever development might replace Soi 7 Beer Garden will be monger-oriented, but rather the steamroller of tourist and shopper-oriented gentrification will continue as what happened to the shops and food stalls opposite. On a separate note, I was just going through Asoke BTS today and saw that the entire plot which had Hemingway's restaurant and bar is now flattened, so say goodbye to their tasty burger and shrimp cocktail and say Hello, to something with a Starbucks in the ground floor. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.Whatever development takes place it will kill the mongering side. Part of the cleaning process.
Hooters at soi 4 is a step in the threshold. Rajah complex / striker bar follows up in a major size.
At the best you will get MP a they havein MBK, fully legitimate, no hints of anything. Thailand is known for massage, bybus for the naughty side, by the tourists for the healthy side, with lots of grey areas when a man says "I go massage" sounding legitimate. But the wife better not check the MP.
Nobody can judge you bad if you "go to a bar for a drink", but if you do this in NEP. Well. Nobody can believe you are thirsty.
New malls, new 5 star hotels will not like to have FL on their doors.
Se might see more upscale clubs, bars, less brothel style. A hit like Dubai, in its way.
NEP Will be the last to fall as it is located in a physical niche you have to enter, not in the open street.
Beer garden: think about the building volume available above its land.
Get half of the square meter rent of beer garden and multiply it by 8-10 or more floors.
Can't see a long life for BG. Honestly.
Whatever is "one floor" establishment in low sukhumvit is at danger. Striker bar has been the first to fall down in this strategy.
The terrace restaurants opposite beer garden went down time ago.
Beer garden the next?
Hello gents,
Has anyone had their drinks spiked at Nana? I had a weird experience last night. I walked into Nana completely sober about 10 pm. I first went to spankys and had one drink. The girls were not to my liking and it was too crowded so I left. Took a stroll around the 2nd floor and walked into another bar on the opposite end of spankys, do not remember the name now. I got another drink and a cute girl came and sat with me. I bought her a lady drink and then made thr mistake of leaving my drink at the table and going to the gents. I got back had a few more sips of my drink and was chatting to the girls when I started feeling strange. By this time the girls and the mamasan were pushing me to bar fine her. I lnew something was wrong because this was my 2nd drink only and I never felt like this before (sweating, giddy, blurred vision) I quickly paid my tab walked out and got a cab back tot he hotel. I kind of passed out in the cab but made it back yo my room safe. Went to bed. Woke up about 3 am to get a drink of water while standing at the table in my room I seem to have passed out compeltely. Got concious about an HR later found my self passed out on the floor of my room with a gash on my cheek where I hit the table when I passed out.
I still have no idea how or what happened to me.I would go see a doctor immediately, especially if you are in BKK!
I don't believe that your drink was spiked; it could be any number of medical ailments such as a mini heart attack to "fainting" due to exhaustion, heat and dehydration.
I had that sweating, giddy, blurred vision session one time after a very vigorous bike ride. Only about 2-3 minutes but I can't tell you if that is accurate. I was totally out of it. It turned out it could have been a mini heart attack. Singapore's PM Lee also did a faint on stage a few months ago and his condition was "vasovagal syncope".
So, if you can, go and see a doc!
Ethan Hunt123
12-29-16, 11:37
Was in Thermae last night. Was my regular haunt 3 to 4 times a week between 99 and 07. When I enter Khun Somchai still comes up, greets me, and remembers what I drink, even thought I only venture in there about twice or three times a year these days. While there are some lookers, albeit most with lots of surgeries, there are lots of mediocre gals in there as well, and frankly I just find it depressing. It is Asian style, not Farang style. Pre-02 you rarely saw Asian guys in there. By 07 they were quite the force. It used to be a lot of fun, I mean a lot of fun. Gals drinking, dancing, grabbing your unit as they walked by, and propositioning you. Now the punter is at the disadvantage as he has to do all the work. Also most of the really good looking gals are Asian only. In fact, I had quite a few gals look away from me as I walked by. Really, I don't need to be dissed by P4 P gals. Also the prices are a bit steep IMHO.Well I am asian so I guess I don't have that disadvantage. I did see it being full of Japs though with very few caucasians.
Ethan Hunt123
12-29-16, 11:39
That is weird. I wonder what day you were there and what time. Very late? Obviously not a peak time.I went on a Wednesday after 1030 pm. So yeah maybe late. Whats the peak time at Thermae?
This was last weekend, I didn't have a chance to sit down and write this as I was traveling around a lot.
Exotic Massage: Located near Kiss in the same little Soi alley. Before selecting this one, I checked out kiss and the few surrounding parlors. Also peeked in some closer to the BTS. This def had the best line up. I went for the 2 hour nuru session, paid upfront after menu selection. The oil was not really nuru which was a disappointment, but the place was not actually set up for that. Just massage table and cubicle shower, not a large tiled floor and air mattress. It was the same price as a normal oil massage which is pretty much what I got. Had a Issan girl named 'Juum' large breasts, short hair, 1 kid, 24. Very hard worker and skilled. Did not do the initial shower together which I was also disappointed, but the massage was actually OK and the 'exotic' part was very well executed. Clean room and not too much noise from other clients as I went in the late afternoon. I negotiated with the mamasan 2 shots for the 2 hour session, even though menu stated 1. Solid but not amazing. 3/5.
Later that night I headed over to Demonia for something a little different and it was not a far walk. It was just an hour after they opened, and I was really tired from traveling. I got a private less show with 1 mistress and 2 slaves girls. I got to interact with them and learn their limits. I asked to see their line up, had 2 Ts and the 2 slaves I was shown and 2 mistress total. Ts are not really my style but the were not stunners, you could tell. Of the 2 slaves I had "Bee"..I had also tried the Demonia at BKK, they are expensive but the dungeon scene is perfect, with all the accessories. Would appreciate if you could tell us how many baths did they charge. Post by visit to Demonia I went to cupid,(plaza hotel) it was a sad scene.
I went on a Wednesday after 1030 pm. So yeah maybe late. Whats the peak time at Thermae?I am not expert but I suspect Thermae peaks a bit later. You were probably there early, contrary to what I was thinking.
It's possible its just the time of year reducing the numbers. It's also a bit of a surprise that Billboard and Twisters line ups would not be good early in the evening, and that Thermae was better for you. Perhaps you look for something quite different to me. Maybe you are the Baccara and RB5 type of customer, which I definitely am not.
It now comes as no shock that you are Asian. So our taste in Thai women is likely to be very different.
Wow. I would have never noticed that.It was a little too weird for me not to notice. LOL. Especially after reading Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code.
Reverse Syzygies and get Seigyzys. Hardly makes much difference.
Next time I change handles, I am to use a random sequence of numbers and letters, so that my name will be totally unpronounceable, and no one will be able to gossip about me. LOL My only worry then is being able to Logon. Something like 6kqx10gt4 would be nice.
Wow. I would have never noticed that.Really? I assumed it was obvious the first day I used it here. LOL. I would have admitted it anytime if anyone had asked. But nobody did. And I felt my bringing it up was either a non issue or in a vague way promoting another site where I did use smoothie. Not necessary or my intention.
I tried to register with the nik smoothie but a notice popped up and said that one had already been used. And it was spelled that way, not the way Smoothy spells it. I have never seen anyone else posting under the nik smoothie here so it is entirely possible that I was the one who originally chose that nik a long time ago but totally forgot about this site and lost track of the password I used, maybe even a different email address or whatever. Then again, smoothie is not an uncommon nik to use all over the net. I have encountered it elsewhere and it wasn't me.
Incidentally, the site itself chose the weird two word version with a capital E and capital T. I tried to do it without that but the site just insisted whenever I signed in so I let it go. lol.
Eszpresszo
12-29-16, 17:55
I am not expert but I suspect Thermae peaks a bit later. You were probably there early, contrary to what I was thinking.
It's possible its just the time of year reducing the numbers. It's also a bit of a surprise that Billboard and Twisters line ups would not be good early in the evening, and that Thermae was better for you. Perhaps you look for something quite different to me. Maybe you are the Baccara and RB5 type of customer, which I definitely am not.
It now comes as no shock that you are Asian. So our taste in Thai women is likely to be very different.I went there around 10 PM on a Thursday evening and the place was packed. Standing room only. About 15 guys in the room and girls lined along the wall. Slim chances for these girls, made even slimmer by their lack of motivation. They were wasting their time, and I would advise anyone going in there not to waste too much time either. I was staying at the Ruamchitt Plaza, so it was easy to take the girl up the stairs to check-in and up the elevator to my room. Otherwise, you are better off spending your time out on the streets picking up girls for 1000 baht ST. Okay, it is mildly amusing to watch Thai girls pitch absurd prices to clueless North Asian guys, but only for a the time it takes to drink a beer.
I went there around 10 PM on a Thursday evening and the place was packed. Standing room only. About 15 guys in the room and girls lined along the wall. Slim chances for these girls, made even slimmer by their lack of motivation. They were wasting their time, and I would advise anyone going in there not to waste too much time either. I was staying at the Ruamchitt Plaza, so it was easy to take the girl up the stairs to check-in and up the elevator to my room. Otherwise, you are better off spending your time out on the streets picking up girls for 1000 baht ST. Okay, it is mildly amusing to watch Thai girls pitch absurd prices to clueless North Asian guys, but only for a the time it takes to drink a beer.Don't the Thermae girls also charge between 1000 and 1500 baht short time? I haven't been there in years, but I thought that was the going rate.
Don't the Thermae girls also charge between 1000 and 1500 baht short time? I haven't been there in years, but I thought that was the going rate.The going rate now is about 2500 B but it depends on the girls.
Wolvenvacht
12-29-16, 21:19
I still have no idea how or what happened to me. I can only guess something was put in my drink when I CodeWord140. I have been drinking and mongering in strip bars, fkks and even nana many times and never felt like this before.It seems unlikely that your drink was spiked or if it was, they totally missed their mark. What good would it do to them to have you pass out in their bar and then rob you? That would be too obvious.
Really? I assumed it was obvious the first day I used it here. LOL. I would have admitted it anytime if anyone had asked. But nobody did. And I felt my bringing it up was either a non issue or in a vague way promoting another site where I did use smoothie. Not necessary or my intention..So do you have some interest in the smoocie app as the name is very close to your nik and you are the one that first posted about that app if I'm not wrong.
I went there around 10 PM on a Thursday evening and the place was packed. Standing room only. About 15 guys in the room and girls lined along the wall. Slim chances for these girls, made even slimmer by their lack of motivation. They were wasting their time, and I would advise anyone going in there not to waste too much time either. I was staying at the Ruamchitt Plaza, so it was easy to take the girl up the stairs to check-in and up the elevator to my room. Otherwise, you are better off spending your time out on the streets picking up girls for 1000 baht ST. Okay, it is mildly amusing to watch Thai girls pitch absurd prices to clueless North Asian guys, but only for a the time it takes to drink a beer.Eszpresszo,
Do you know if the Ruamchitt Plaza has 120 V US style receptacles in the rooms? For charging cell phones. Thanks Geano.
Don't the Thermae girls also charge between 1000 and 1500 baht short time? I haven't been there in years, but I thought that was the going rate.Very hard pressed to find a gal that will go for less than 2. Perhaps one of the oldies, but even then I doubt it. Some of the Japanese only gals are getting 3 K and up ST.
Bangalore 55
12-30-16, 01:15
Ok that makes sense. Getting to a doc today. Thank you
I would go see a doctor immediately, especially if you are in BKK!
I don't believe that your drink was spiked; it could be any number of medical ailments such as a mini heart attack to "fainting" due to exhaustion, heat and dehydration.
I had that sweating, giddy, blurred vision session one time after a very vigorous bike ride. Only about 2-3 minutes but I can't tell you if that is accurate. I was totally out of it. It turned out it could have been a mini heart attack. Singapore's PM Lee also did a faint on stage a few months ago and his condition was "vasovagal syncope".
So, if you can, go and see a doc!.
I went there around 10 PM on a Thursday evening and the place was packed. Standing room only. About 15 guys in the room and girls lined along the wall. Slim chances for these girls, made even slimmer by their lack of motivation. They were wasting their time, and I would advise anyone going in there not to waste too much time either. I was staying at the Ruamchitt Plaza, so it was easy to take the girl up the stairs to check-in and up the elevator to my room. Otherwise, you are better off spending your time out on the streets picking up girls for 1000 baht ST. Okay, it is mildly amusing to watch Thai girls pitch absurd prices to clueless North Asian guys, but only for a the time it takes to drink a beer.I am pretty much in agreement with your observation of the place, the girls, the customers, the best approach there and so on. I have described the Thermae girls by and large as "hobbyists", not fully committed to the P4 P job but fine with finding out how little they can do in order to bank and easy 2,000-2,500 baht that night to supplement whatever small amount they earn in their regular day job.
I might have been one of the earliest on these boards to declare the "Japanese customers only" or even a "Much prefer Japanese customers" issue at Thermae dead. Since then, I have seen Field Reports on sites like this one with older falangs expressing some surprise that they were not greeted with disdain in the place lately and actually scored a decent ST or two. Then I saw this somewhat new development mentioned by Stickman in his Weekly Article a month or two ago. I was just in Thermae a couple of nights ago around 9:30 PM, the place was packed with girls and, as has been the case the last dozen times I have gone in there over the past year or two, I felt more than welcome by many of the cutest, youngest girls there and know I could easily have walked off hand-in-hand with any one of my choosing for 2,000-2,500 baht.
The only times I don't even bother approaching one of the many cute young girls trying their best to get my attention while I sit or lean against the bar with a buddy sipping on my 60 baht plain ice tea no lemon and no sugar is when I have already finished for the day before going in there, have another date lined up later but my friend wanted to stop in for a bit or, more to the point I made above, when I really don't feel like dealing with a fairly uncommitted P4 P "hobbyist" for two hours. It has not been because I wasn't being paid attention to by some of the better looking girls or because they were likely to hit me up with some ridiculous 3,000+ baht ST rate for a boring standard level of service.
Eszpresszo
12-30-16, 03:38
Don't the Thermae girls also charge between 1000 and 1500 baht short time? I haven't been there in years, but I thought that was the going rate.I was sitting next to a younger one who was approached by an Asian guy. Much younger than me, and had that "slouch" look popular with younger adults globally. He asked how much for two hours, and she said "six thousand" without much thought to it. Part of the problem was that he asked her out loud so that her peers as well as other customers could hear. I talked an older, but not all that old, girl into 1500ST plus 200 for cab fare. Some other younger girls were quoting me 2000-2500 for ST and were not budging on that price. But, as I've said before, these girls are delusional and wasting their time, and will waste your time. Thermae is fun for a visit, but hardly a place where you can expect to pick up a girl at a fair price. The only girl leaving there was the one who left with me. That was the only time I visited the place, and though I picked up a girl there, it will probably be my last unless I am staying at Ruamchitt Plaza again. The convenience is superb, as there is a stairwell in the back of the bar that leads to the lobby. If the bar could get some more motivated girls there ready to do business, I think the place would be a lot of fun and they would actually sell more drinks. But, for now its a curiosity, not a serious mongering destination.
The next night I walked out on the street and found a superb f*ck for 1000 without haggling. Convenience aside, walking down Sukhumvit to find a girl is more expedient unless you are out front later, and I swear there was a mob out front of Ruamchitt Plaza just after 2:00 AM and more girls along the block, who were ready to do business.
If you do go to Thermae, I suggest you dress presentable, have your game on, and keep your voice down when you start to haggle. A bunch of girls going in there trying vainly to nab some Japanese guy for 3000 for very short time, don't want their peers to hear them say yes to half that price for some farang.
Eric Swiss
12-30-16, 03:47
I started at Billboard. I paid a lady drink to a hot girl whose number was #50 but whose name I cannot remember. She was pretty hot, so I don't remember why I didn't barfine her, but there must have been a reason.
Then went to Pink Panther. The girls are absolutely spectacular. Not sure if they really fuck, though. One friend tells me they do, but he's good looking and speaks Thai, so I am not sure how representative he is. After one lady drink with a girl who was almost completely mute and unresponsive, I left.
I arrive at Climax at 1:50 am. First thing I see is a stunning two-set walking out. Like an idiot, I didn't open them. Some older White guy told me they were closing. Weird, I thought it was an after-hour place. Across the street, Levels was still open. Maybe somebody forgot to pay the bribe or whatnot. Anyway, on my way out, I come across a hot little number who was trying to get in and was as surprised as me that it would close so early. Her name was Namwan. Her extremely tight leather pants caught my attention.
I just harpoon her without any of the usual seduction routines and tell her to come with me to a hotel. I open with an offer of 1000 Baht out of principle just to demonstrate I am not a chump. She counters with 2000, which I accept. Clearly she expected we would negotiate to 1500, but at that point I couldn't be bothered anymore.
We go to PB hotel, get naked, and then, without shower, she starts licking my asshole and even sticking her tongue inside. Is that what the extra 500 Baht earned me? Anyway, I recover from my surprise, get a BBBJ but I can't get it up because I haven't built rapport with her. I've been with her about 5 minutes, there's been no seduction routine, my body thinks she's a complete stranger.
So I make her lie down, and start kissing and caressing her body, and then everything goes back to normal. I start banging her and it was quite good. She was very beautiful, both face and body, slim build, no baby, and very engaged in the proceedings. I gave her a good rogering, bust my nut, and went home a happy camper. If you ever come across her, I recommend!
So do you have some interest in the smoocie app as the name is very close to your nik and you are the one that first posted about that app if I'm not wrong.You seem to have a profound ability to be illogical, or bad jokes. Smoothy handle is also close. So what? As silly as the discussion about different Junes in different MPs potentially being the same girl.
Also you do seem to be wrong, Smooci posts started appearing 30 November in Escorts thread long before ET first mentioned it.
I was just in Thermae a couple of nights ago around 9:30 PM, the place was packed with girls and, as has been the case the last dozen times I have gone in there over the past year or two, I felt more than welcome by many of the cutest, youngest girls there and know I could easily have walked off hand-in-hand with any one of my choosing for 2,000-2,500 baht.
I find that plenty of girls are giving me the yes look, but it tends to be not the top looking girls there. It is hard for me to take an ordinary looker with highly likely enhanced tits, possible hidden body problems, etc. When the real lookers, rather few, are not keen on me, offering me a higher farang price, or not making themselves available. Getting dick scared girls or non DFK girls also seems to be too likely.
I could be wrong, but most hot girls do not encourage significant chat time, expecting a guy to pull the trigger quickly, and trust to luck more than chemistry.
Not impossible for Farangs, if willing to take average girls, but the place still favours Asian customers, IMO. I would rather go somewhere to find girls really preferring Farangs.
I am yet to do any Thermae girl in recent times really good enough to repeat. So gogo bar girls have been a lot better for me, especially when I can be sure the body is fabulous. Also I can do cheaper freelancers off the street.
Goatscrot is right that vibe for Farangs in the Thermae was way better many years ago. Very many years since I got an extremely sweet girl from there worth having for the whole night and repeating. Last one I had in that special category was a Hotel maid, but very cute, whose husband died after a car crash or hospital operation, forget now. She soon disappeared unfortunately, and her contact address became outdated. Probably 15 years ago. Had to communicate by letter as she had no mobile phone.
So do you have some interest in the smoocie app as the name is very close to your nik and you are the one that first posted about that app if I'm not wrong.LOL. No, I have no connection with smooci.com (not really an app, BTW). As Syzygies said, the topic pre-dates my posting about it. In fact, I thought there was a thread for it here somewhere. Hmm. Maybe thinking of somewhere else. Anyway, I only became interested in it when I read about it on Stickman Weekly, had been toying with the idea of checking out the Escort scene for the first time in Bangkok and liked the idea of a customer feedback rating system. Which is not perfect, but at least provides the girls an incentive to up their game even though they have already pocketed the money, as is the general procedure and, I believe, spelled out even on the escort sites; that the customer is expected to pay the full amount to the lady before activities begin.
I could be wrong, but most hot girls do not encourage significant chat time, expecting a guy to pull the trigger quickly, and trust to luck more than chemistry.
Not impossible for Farangs, if willing to take average girls, but the place still favours Asian customers, IMO. I would rather go somewhere to find girls really preferring Farangs.When I was there the other night I saw the same thing happen around 10 PM that I have seen many times before around that time. That is when a flood of new Asian customers start flowing in and, no doubt about it, triggers a feeding frenzy of eye contact, reaching out and big beaming smiles for that new Asian blood spreading around. Had some tour bus arrived at the usual time and this was the first stop for Asians who had heard Thermae girls favor them? If a somewhat predictable flood of Norwegians came in about 10 PM every night, would Thermae girls be checking their watches waiting for 10 PM in order to see if there were interesting Norwegians to target? Or, better yet, groups of them?
Sure enough, for the next 15-20 minutes I might as well have been a potted plant. And while we're at it, I suspect that if a flood of Norwegians came flooding into Thermae every now and then throughout the night, I would have been reduced to being a potted plant during those feeding frenzies, too. Then, as that wave of Asian guys dissipated, I began to recover my mysterious Farang allure. LOL.
Yes, during that feeding frenzy, the Thermae girls most definitely favored Asian customers. Which begs a spin on the chicken and egg question; which comes first? Are Thermae girls (today) favoring Asian customers or is it merely that a flood of Asian customers show up throughout the night because they have heard Thermae girls favor them?
My guess is if the flood of Asians that flow in throughout the night was suddenly reduced to a trickle and a flood of Farangs replaced them, Thermae would not be an abandoned shack with no girls showing up, including the typical Thermae girls we see on the best nights. It would filled with the same girls and Asians would be telling each other the place favors Farangs, not Asians. JMHO, of course.
I just harpoon her without any of the usual seduction routines and tell her to come with me to a hotel. I open with an offer of 1000 Baht out of principle just to demonstrate I am not a chump. She counters with 2000, which I accept. Clearly she expected we would negotiate to 1500, but at that point I couldn't be bothered anymore.
We go to PB hotel, get naked, and then, without shower, she starts licking my asshole and even sticking her tongue inside. Is that what the extra 500 Baht earned me? Anyway, I recover from my surprise, get a BBBJ but I can't get it up because I haven't built rapport with her. I've been with her about 5 minutes, there's been no seduction routine, my body thinks she's a complete stranger.
So I make her lie down, and start kissing and caressing her body, and then everything goes back to normal. I start banging her and it was quite good. She was very beautiful, both face and body, slim build, no baby, and very engaged in the proceedings. I gave her a good rogering, bust my nut, and went home a happy camper. If you ever come across her, I recommend!Eric Swiss, I really enjoyed your report here. Especially appreciate your honesty about not having built rapport and her being essentially a stranger in the second paragraph above. And then how it was your making her lie down to allow you to start kissing her and caressing her body that did the trick for you in terms of becoming aroused. Sounds very much like my style too. I am not the least bit aroused by a girl who leaps into action like she's putting out a fire. Glad it worked out for you your way!
Sounds very much like my style too. I am not the least bit aroused by a girl who leaps into action like she's putting out a fire. Glad it worked out for you your way!Ha ha! Good one. I like that comment. Could apply to some PSE shop girls that go at it just a bit too frantically, and yet there is plenty of time. I prefer to start with very soft touching, moving into kissing. Nothing gets me going quicker than really beautiful kissing.
Things like BBBJ , DATY, and 69 can go for extended times. No need to keep changing positions too often.
All my regular girls at least understand that I am a very soft and slow customer. They know to go with the very slow flow. None of the Goat's "Intensity" is needed for me, more the slow build up, and I can go quicker if I want.
Eric Swiss
12-30-16, 09:16
Eric Swiss, I really enjoyed your report here. Especially appreciate your honesty about not having built rapport and her being essentially a stranger in the second paragraph above. And then how it was your making her lie down to allow you to start kissing her and caressing her body that did the trick for you in terms of becoming aroused. Sounds very much like my style too. I am not the least bit aroused by a girl who leaps into action like she's putting out a fire. Glad it worked out for you your way!Thanks Mate! Just for clarity, I only took her to bed without kino escalation because the venue was closing. This was the only only way I could think of solving my logistical nightmare. Not sure what else I could have done. Maybe bounce her to an intermediary venue? But I was afraid the vibe could be lost. She was shell-shocked to see Climax close so early, after spending hours prettifying herself, so I capitalized.
Having said that, starting to build rapport with a girl whose tongue is halfway up my unwashed asshole was not something I trained for.
I can't get it up because I haven't built rapport with her. I've been with her about 5 minutes, there's been no seduction routine, my body thinks she's a complete strangerInteresting. Over the years I have had some of my best sessions with gals I have barely spoken a word to. Back in the old Thermae and Nana Disco days I would look at a gal and say "bpa" and off we'd go to the PB Hotel. Once inside I would just start DFK and when they would say "shower shower" I would say "after. " We'd go at it like mad. Then I'd ask them their name as we left the ST hotel. Those are some of my best memories.
Eric Swiss
12-30-16, 10:25
Interesting. Over the years I have had some of my best sessions with gals I have barely spoken a word to. Back in the old Thermae and Nana Disco days I would look at a gal and say "bpa" and off we'd go to the PB Hotel. Once inside I would just start DFK and when they would say "shower shower" I would say "after. " We'd go at it like mad. Then I'd ask them their name as we left the ST hotel. Those are some of my best memories.While Namwan had many qualities, DFK wasn't one of them. But I do agree that DFK, if I had managed to dive straight into that, would have raised the temperature in the room.
While Namwan had many qualities, DFK wasn't one of them. But I do agree that DFK, if I had managed to dive straight into that, would have raised the temperature in the room.Amazing, a gal that will lick your keister but not DFK. What goes through that mind? "I'll lick his butt, but won't dare kiss him. " Wonders never cease.
You seem to have a profound ability to be illogical, or bad jokes. Smoothy handle is also close. So what? As silly as the discussion about different Junes in different MPs potentially being the same girl.
Also you do seem to be wrong, Smooci posts started appearing 30 November in Escorts thread long before ET first mentioned it.What has logical to do with my question? Is it logical to use two nicknames on the same forum? I don't read the escort thread, the first time I read about smoocie was in the Bangkok thread.
As for the MP girl, it was not June but Angie so the one that seem to be wrong is actually you. You kept talking for days about a presumably wonderful girl named Angie that worked in Cherry a few years ago and I just tried to help you by telling you that there's a girl that actually works in another MP and who was a former worker of Cherry Massage with that particular name. She might not be your wonderful girl but I was not wrong by saying that she was one Angie from Cherry massage.
Just Google Angie Cherry massage twitter and you can still easily find some of her pictures on the web from the official Cherry's massage twitter Mister I know everything.
Ha ha! Good one. I like that comment. Could apply to some PSE shop girls that go at it just a bit too frantically, and yet there is plenty of time. I prefer to start with very soft touching, moving into kissing. Nothing gets me going quicker than really beautiful kissing.
Things like BBBJ , DATY, and 69 can go for extended times. No need to keep changing positions too often.
All my regular girls at least understand that I am a very soft and slow customer. They know to go with the very slow flow. None of the Goat's "Intensity" is needed for me, more the slow build up, and I can go quicker if I want.At the risk of alluding to a point I have probably posted too much about recently comparing the term GFE in Western / USA culture vs GFE in Asia, particularly in this thread's context, Thailand, you know how DFK is almost universally cited among us Farangs as absolutely essential for a P4 P session to be considered a GirlFriendExperience? Well, of course, DFK isn't all that normal behavior for Thai girlfriends to engage in with their Thai boyfriends (ditto for DATY, BBBJ+CIM, BBBJ+CIM+Swallowing, etc.), which is why so many Thai girls are not particularly into it, with the obvious exception of DATY (LOL), or skilled at those other Farang-style GFE love-making activities. Hell, I would even include getting them to go SLOWER and more SENSUAL as one of those contrasting cultural challenges.
However, BBFS certainly is normal behavior between Thai girlfriends and their Thai boyfriends, as witnessed by so many 19 y.o. Thai girls with at least one kid but no 'baby daddy' within sight. Just one more reason I'm going with BBFS as being a far more indicative but not the only dividing line between getting a GFE or not with a Thai girl than the more romantic or emotional support part. Tell a Thai girl, P4P or non pro, that tonight you want to have sex with her like a long time boyfriend and girlfriend and she'll know you're talking about no condom sex. I doubt very much she's going to think you're talking about DFK, BBBJ+CIM or anything the least bit romantic and sensual.
LOL. No, I have no connection with smooci.com (not really an app, BTW). As Syzygies said, the topic pre-dates my posting about it. In fact, I thought there was a thread for it here somewhere. Hmm. Maybe thinking of somewhere else. Anyway, I only became interested in it when I read about it on Stickman Weekly, had been toying with the idea of checking out the Escort scene for the first time in Bangkok and liked the idea of a customer feedback rating system. Which is not perfect, but at least provides the girls an incentive to up their game even though they have already pocketed the money, as is the general procedure and, I believe, spelled out even on the escort sites; that the customer is expected to pay the full amount to the lady before activities begin.Thanks for the clarification, I just asked out of curiosity and it had nothing to do with any kind of joke. I think the smoocie thread appeared after your post in the Bangkok thread.
Regarding that site I don't know if the ratings will effect the service as it's not sure if the girls are aware of these ratings and even if they would be interested to check their ratings.
As for the pricing, I can see that the price is value for at least one of these girls. There is one particular girl on that site that I know and also works in an MP in Bangkok, the outcall price in the MP is the same as the one on smoocie. The difference is that the MP's price is for 90 min only while it is stated 2 hours on smoocie. Same for the number of shots, you can have 2 shots if you book her from smoocie while we cannot be sure of what we get if booked from the MP.
Another good thing is that we know what services a girl is ready to do with any customer, while it's something that we cannot be sure when taking her out of the MP. For example I can see that she accepts COF, something I didn't know during my session with her in the MP.
At the risk of alluding to a point I have probably posted too much about recently comparing the term GFE in Western / USA culture vs GFE in Asia, particularly in this thread's context, Thailand, you know how DFK is almost universally cited among us Farangs as absolutely essential for a P4 P session to be considered a GirlFriendExperience? Well, of course, DFK isn't all that normal behavior for Thai girlfriends to engage in with their Thai boyfriends (ditto for DATY, BBBJ+CIM, BBBJ+CIM+Swallowing, etc.), which is why so many Thai girls are not particularly into it, with the obvious exception of DATY (LOL), or skilled at those other Farang-style GFE love-making activities. Hell, I would even include getting them to go SLOWER and more SENSUAL as one of those contrasting cultural challenges.
Yes accepted that Thai girls may not be used to very full on DFK and CIM. My GF does full on DFK only really when very sexually excited, or possibly after drinking alcohol, and she can get slightly bitey with it on occasions and is also into mild slapping or scratching when very stimulated, like a wild cat. LOL. I don't have the same tendacies at all, but I just accept what she likes doing. She often has an excuse for no DFK outside of sex, like did not brush the teeth after smoking or after food.
I never asked her to do CIM, as I never cum from BBBJ. Her BBBJ skills would not be good enough and gets jaw ache too quickly. I assume most Thai girls are not doing CIM anyway, outside of P4P but don't really have the sample to know.
I don't think what is happening with Thai men is relevant to our discussion of GFE. It is from our point of view.
I have little doubt that the very best DFK comes from latino girls, e.g. Brazil
Gannaton48
12-30-16, 16:17
I went there around 10 PM on a Thursday evening and the place was packed. Standing room only. About 15 guys in the room and girls lined along the wall. Slim chances for these girls, made even slimmer by their lack of motivation. They were wasting their time, and I would advise anyone going in there not to waste too much time either. I was staying at the Ruamchitt Plaza, so it was easy to take the girl up the stairs to check-in and up the elevator to my room. Otherwise, you are better off spending your time out on the streets picking up girls for 1000 baht ST. Okay, it is mildly amusing to watch Thai girls pitch absurd prices to clueless North Asian guys, but only for a the time it takes to drink a beer.YEs I also wondered why so many girls stand there completely demotivated, to the point some really attractive ones would bring the horniest punter to flee! WHy spend hours along the wall if they don't want to make money?? Or are they not necessarily FLs?
What has logical to do with my question? Is it logical to use two nicknames on the same forum? I don't read the escort thread, the first time I read about smoocie was in the Bangkok thread.
As for the MP girl, it was not June but Angie so the one that seem to be wrong is actually you. You kept talking for days about a presumably wonderful girl named Angie that worked in Cherry a few years ago and I just tried to help you by telling you that there's a girl that actually works in another MP and who was a former worker of Cherry Massage with that particular name. She might not be your wonderful girl but I was not wrong by saying that she was one Angie from Cherry massage.
Just Google Angie Cherry massage twitter and you can still easily find some of her pictures on the web from the official Cherry's massage twitter Mister I know everything.I remember Angie. Nice face, so-so body. Pretty lackluster performance. Skill set not very refined. I did not repeat.
A bunch of girls going in there trying vainly to nab some Japanese guy for 3000 for very short time.I asked a girl why they prefer Japanese. She said 333. I asked her what that meant and she said "3 inches for 3 minutes for 3000".
Member #2041
12-30-16, 18:23
I asked a girl why they prefer Japanese. She said 333. I asked her what that meant and she said "3 inches for 3 minutes for 3000".Thanks for that. In all of my visits to Bangkok (about 8 to 10 trips during the period from 2005-2012), I never pulled a girl from Thermae. I went in there about 4 times. I always saw that the only guys getting any interest at all from the girls were Japanese guys, and the girls just stood along the wall bored and rolled their eyes when any white guy, including me, would approach them. I never had the phenomena so clearly and concisely explained before.
I remember Angie. Nice face, so-so body. Pretty lackluster performance. Skill set not very refined. I did not repeat.I agree with you. I've met her last year in another MP. I personally found that her face was so-so but her body was great. She had very big boobs but they were well done and felt great. For the service she was lazy and during my second session she made it clear that she would never give two fucks in the same session. I don't ask too much from the girls but at least I want 2 fucks during a 2 hours session. That day she lost a potentially good customer. Better go give my money to the ones that have a good attitude and the ones that have some consideration for their customer.
Gannaton48
12-30-16, 20:54
Yes accepted that Thai girls may not be used to very full on DFK and CIM. My GF does full on DFK only really when very sexually excited, or possibly after drinking alcohol, and she can get slightly bitey with it on occasions and is also into mild slapping or scratching when very stimulated, like a wild cat. LOL. I don't have the same tendacies at all, but I just accept what she likes doing. She often has an excuse for no DFK outside of sex, like did not brush the teeth after smoking or after food.
I never asked her to do CIM, as I never cum from BBBJ. Her BBBJ skills would not be good enough and gets jaw ache too quickly. I assume most Thai girls are not doing CIM anyway, outside of P4P but don't really have the sample to know.
I don't think what is happening with Thai men is relevant to our discussion of GFE. It is from our point of view.
I have little doubt that the very best DFK comes from latino girls, e.g. BrazilIn contrast to Syzygies, I can only come by BBBJ because otherwise it requires condom, which prevents me from coming. Also I am attracted by FLs rather than club girls because it needs a bit feeling and discussion. Thus I am a friend of beergarden on Soi 7 or Thermae. This year I was twice in BKK and could'nt get CIM from beergarden girls; at Thermae I found but not easy, I agree. My 1st trip to BKK was 1988, We went to Mona Lisa, a famous brothel with about 120 girls wearing different colours, which should tell you what they do or not. Out of so many girls only about 3 would do CIM ("smoke" as they said). So was much worse than now! We were told it was not in the thai culture, that's the reason. Nowadays it is more relax even though not common, at least on the sex market. Last November (see my post) I went to CLub 102 on Soi 24/1, a terrific place in my taste, looking like a old european brothel. ABout 15 mostly attractive girls, out of which only 2 agreed to CIM: fortunately it was excellent! So yes althoug times are changing and thai girls get more open-minded, it is still a bit difficult to get it.
I asked a girl why they prefer Japanese. She said 333. I asked her what that meant and she said "3 inches for 3 minutes for 3000".LOL. Yes, I've heard that one too. There is a natural time limit for that summation, however. It isn't really going to work out as nicely in the perhaps not too distant future when girls are routinely getting 8000 from Japanese customers. LOL.
YEs I also wondered why so many girls stand there completely demotivated, to the point some really attractive ones would bring the horniest punter to flee! WHy spend hours along the wall if they don't want to make money?? Or are they not necessarily FLs?The set-up in Thermae is such that virtually every approach, qualification and deal closing (or not) is very much on display for dozens of nearby patrons and girls to observe and possibly judge. Not only is it natural for anyone, customer or girl, to be intimidated by it, there is also the issue of "face". I see some posters in another thread being somewhat dismissive about the concept of Asian "face" in the context of P4 P, but this is a time and place where I believe it really is in play.
Some of the better looking girls are used to being fawned over and not being rejected. They have not developed the thick skin for possible public rejection that less attractive girls have developed over the years. Therefore, the better looking ones will be far less apt to toss out a first big smile or nod in a direction they have no idea will be returned. If not returned, they will perhaps for the first time in their lives be seen as "undesirable". Actually, that isn't so different from the way it is with beautiful women all over the world. But with the added issue of Asian "face" involved, it is very much in those girls' self-defense mechanism to appear utterly and totally indifferent to the proceedings. Now, if you toss out the first big smile and nod and it is not returned, that might be a clearer sign that they are not interested. But that might also be for reasons having nothing to do with your attractiveness or potential to be a good customer.
The set-up in Thermae is such that virtually every approach, qualification and deal closing (or not) is very much on display for dozens of nearby patrons and girls to observe and possibly judge.
But with the added issue of Asian "face" involved, it is very much in those girls' self-defense mechanism to appear utterly and totally indifferent to the proceedings. Now, if you toss out the first big smile and nod and it is not returned, that might be a clearer sign that they are not interested. But that might also be for reasons having nothing to do with your attractiveness or potential to be a good customer.Yes she is on display to all, so she is not going to be slutty or raunchy in there.
It does not bother me at all if a girl looks bored or indifferent. If she does not change when I talk to her, and indicate my interest, then there is a problem. If I show I am keen on her, and she reacts well, then a deal is possible.
Thermae is definitely a place where it is up to the man to be the aggressor and do the hunting. The girl is the prey waiting to be attacked.
So the girls' deadpan look from a distance should not be making the punters flee, only her reaction when approached.
Some of the more desperate girls (or non popular girls), do wink at me, and try to attract me, but the top girls are not needing to do that. I get some not so favourable reactions from the real popular beauties in the Thermae. I am not the model of the preferred customer I guess. I think a good percentage of girls are not looking for Farangs.
Remember the 5 4 3 rule. 5 inches 4 minutes, 3K, or did I get those mixed up a little.
Some day I will ask my stunner ex Crazy House, why she preferred to dance naked in Crazy House rather than work the Thermae. Could be she wanted Farangs more so than Japanese, could be she had in mind being BFed by 9.30PM at the latest. Does not go to be really late. Maybe was simply that her friends were working Crazy House. Maybe she wanted to dance really slow sexy showing off her fab body to help pull the customer very fast. Anyway she never had time to get bored hanging around waiting to get a customer. It is easy when you are the prettiest girl in the room. In a gogo bar it is allowed to make eyes at the customer and act slightly raunchy.
Yes she is on display to all, so she is not going to be slutty or raunchy in there.
It does not bother me at all if a girl looks bored or indifferent. If she does not change when I talk to her, and indicate my interest, then there is a problem. If I show I am keen on her, and she reacts well, then a deal is possible.
Thermae is definitely a place where it is up to the man to be the aggressor and do the hunting. The girl is the prey waiting to be attacked.
So the girls' deadpan look from a distance should not be making the punters flee, only her reaction when approached.
Some of the more desperate girls (or non popular girls), do wink at me, and try to attract me, but the top girls are not needing to do that. I get some not so favourable reactions from the real popular beauties in the Thermae. I am not the model of the preferred customer I guess. I think a good percentage of girls are not looking for Farangs.
Remember the 5 4 3 rule. 5 inches 4 minutes, 3K, or did I get those mixed up a little.Yes, and this is exactly why it is not fun anymore. Pre-Asian Thermae Invasion it was a lot of fun. Gals were very forward, would proposition you, and even grab your pecker as you walked by. Most also were drinking so they were more relaxed. Now it is a very uptight place. Personally I have not enjoyed it in years.
Yes, and this is exactly why it is not fun anymore. Pre-Asian Thermae Invasion it was a lot of fun. Gals were very forward, would proposition you, and even grab your pecker as you walked by. Most also were drinking so they were more relaxed. Now it is a very uptight place. Personally I have not enjoyed it in years.Yes I have tried a few times but very unenthused indeed, even though I prefer to be the hunter rather than having uglies grabbing me. If I happened to find the "amazing" girl, all could have been different.
Last girl I took from there was O.K. but had silicones (possibly pathetic to guys wanting PSE). I have almost completely forgotten the session already. So obviously not memorable. I had already been knocked back by the one stunner in the place, as she supposedly was waiting for someone.
For my taste, the line up quality is not as good as the Asian guys make out. Plus girls are too heavily under cover. I can do much better in a good gogo bar like Twisters or Billboard for finding girls that appeal to me. EthanHunt did not like these two bars but he is Asian and presumably has different taste, possibly even wanting big boobies for all I know.
Thermae is a stunningly boring place. Perhaps O.K. if you go with buddies and have them to talk to too. Normally I go to a bar and I am chatting with appealing girls, once I choose one or more. Thermae you might end up conversing with a stranger out of boredom.
Yes I have tried a few times but very unenthused indeed, even though I prefer to be the hunter rather than having uglies grabbing me. If I happened to find the "amazing" girl, all could have been different.
Last girl I took from there was O.K. but had silicones (possibly pathetic to guys wanting PSE). I have almost completely forgotten the session already. So obviously not memorable. I had already been knocked back by the one stunner in the place, as she supposedly was waiting for someone.
For my taste, the line up quality is not as good as the Asian guys make out. Plus girls are too heavily under cover. I can do much better in a good gogo bar like Twisters or Billboard for finding girls that appeal to me. EthanHunt did not like these two bars but he is Asian and presumably has different taste, possibly even wanting big boobies for all I know.
Thermae is a stunningly boring place. Perhaps O.K. if you go with buddies and have them to talk to too. Normally I go to a bar and I am chatting with appealing girls, once I choose one or more. Thermae you might end up conversing with a stranger out of boredom.Agreed. It is very boring. The fun I used to have there is what I miss. However, I do find the gals there to be more pleasing to my eye than what I see in the GoGo or oilies. Too bad they are not PSE for 2 k. I certainly be a regular!
Franciscass
12-31-16, 09:19
An Isis suspect would not come under as intensive a surveillance as the smoker who lights up between Soi 3 and 21. Once the "mark" is spotted he or she is passed by the Thetsakij, from sector to sector along Sukhumvit until eventually finding nowhere to discard the butt end it is dropped on the pavement. This is the gotcha moment and you are escorted to a mobile fines office / table to pay a 2000 fine. Now you have littered, a disgusting habit needing to be dealt with, but it is not as if Bangkok pavements are pristine stretches of pedestrian paradise, far from it, that along with the lack of bins, the fact that only foreigners are targeted and other flagrant breaches of the law are ignored makes this nothing more than a set up by a bunch of BMA inspectors (not police) known as Thetsakij, who city wide rake in millions every week.
With nothing better to do I decided to have a little fun with this bunch. I don't even smoke but I lit up at the beginning of Soi 5. Immediately the nearest uniform alerted the team a smoker was on his way. My progress was kept under surveillance as I passed by 4 of them until I reached 19. I make a motion as if throwing it away as the nearest Thatsakij moves in for the pinch. I stop, turn around and walk back down Sukhumvit with the butt still in my hand again passing by the 4 who are now all intensely interested in what I am going to do until I get to 7/1. Again I make like I am going to throw it away. Again the pinch is on but then I take out my little bag, put in the offending butt end, put the bad back in my pocket, turn, give a big smile and head off for a beer and a massage. I know, childish but I enjoyed it.
Perhaps not advisable to repeat as some of these guys look like they moonlight as hit men.
Advice to members, don't litter but if you get caught 500 (no receipt) suffices although it takes some time to negotiate.
Eric Swiss
12-31-16, 18:31
Amazing, a gal that will lick your keister but not DFK. What goes through that mind? "I'll lick his butt, but won't dare kiss him. " Wonders never cease.Yeah, the thought came trough my mind after I wrote it. But I think that's why we still pay them, because they find infinite ways to amaze and surprise even the most experienced and jaded among us. Life is like a box of Thai hookers: you never know what you're going to get.
Amazing, a gal that will lick your keister but not DFK. What goes through that mind? "I'll lick his butt, but won't dare kiss him. " Wonders never cease.I asked a girl that once. She said it was out of respect for me because she licked men's asses every day and thought her mouth was dirty.
LOL. Yes, I've heard that one too. There is a natural time limit for that summation, however. It isn't really going to work out as nicely in the perhaps not too distant future when girls are routinely getting 8000 from Japanese customers. LOL.I'm sure they can adjust it. Since 8 cm is about equal to 3 inches, they could change it to 888. 8 cm for 80 seconds for 8000.
Eszpresszo
12-31-16, 21:24
I asked a girl why they prefer Japanese. She said 333. I asked her what that meant and she said "3 inches for 3 minutes for 3000".I actually mentioned that to the girl I pulled out of Thermae while we eavesdropping on a Japanese guy talking to the girl on my other side. She giggled and nodded with a big grin.
However, the odds of these girls scoring just that appear to be very unlikely based on my sole adventure there.
I asked a girl why they prefer Japanese. She said 333. I asked her what that meant and she said "3 inches for 3 minutes for 3000".I've heard it put in a slightly different way. They pay 3 times as much as other customers; have 3 inches; and finish in 3 minutes.
Funny either way.
They pay 3 times as much as other customersSomething I found interesting recently was I went to Crazy House wearing crappy clothes (shorts, sandals, t-shirt). I hadn't even showered or washed my hair that day and looked like hell. One of the girls quoted me 2000 baht for her services. I returned a few months later and went on the same night of the week (a Tuesday night) wearing a suit and tie directly after work. The exact same girl quoted me double that price. I told her that she had quoted me the other price before and described myself to her previously. She said "that was you? I didn't recognize you. " She agreed to the lower price immediately. So I am guessing it's better to dress like a homeless bum at these places than to dress nicely.
I'm sure they can adjust it. Since 8 cm is about equal to 3 inches, they could change it to 888. 8 cm for 80 seconds for 8000.LOL. Very true.
I asked a girl that once. She said it was out of respect for me because she licked men's asses every day and thought her mouth was dirty.Very thoughtful I would say!
Thermae is a stunningly boring place. Perhaps O.K. if you go with buddies and have them to talk to too. Normally I go to a bar and I am chatting with appealing girls, once I choose one or more. Thermae you might end up conversing with a stranger out of boredom.You bring up an important element that I believe is key to achieving better results in today's Thermae. I have certainly noticed it applying to me on my recent visits. When I go there alone, I am in agreement with Eszpresszo in that it is best not to waste much time; zero in on a couple of likely candidates and approach. Don't get stuck glued to the bar letting too much time pass while the glue really settles in and makes it more difficult to detach yourself from it to make your move. And when you do come in and get right to it, make sure you fake a truly sincere smile and light attitude about it. Whether you choose a girl here tonight is of little "emotional" consequence since there are so many outside that door waiting for you instead. That kind of cavalier attitude with a confident smile. Regardless of looks or age, I believe it is that kind of demeanor that will make a Thermae girl more apt to feel good about walking out with you. You are the kind of guy other girls hope and wish they could bag this night as well, and the girl you have chosen knows it.
This is quite different from conditions in a go-go bar or beer bar, imo, where the trophy catch of the night is likely the guy buying lots of Lady Drinks for the girl and any "cousin" who walks by. Thermae is not a Lady Drink and barfine venue so you don't position yourself for a better result by expecting it to be similar.
And if you have found yourself stuck to that bar so long the glue has really settled in, start up a friendly conversation with the sullen lone fellow next to you, Asian or Farang. Chances are very good that guy is going through the same feelings as you and will perk up just as you should when you start chatting about which girl looks good over there, why some of the cuter, younger ones hang back in the second or third row on the toilet side of the room or whatever. That perking up is exactly the kind of "signs of life" that I alluded to in the above first paragraph that will make you a more desirable trophy win for the lucky girl you choose, if any.
On the nights where I have come in alone then made quick friends with the sullen lone fellow next to me or come in chatting it up with a buddy are the times when I have gotten the most aggressive smiles, nods and positive affirmation from those girls. It is, I believe, the "signs of life" or, more to the point, "signs of pleasant and fun life" that those girls are looking for in order to feel comfortable about walking out with a Farang instead of an Asian. If anything, that is more the advantage Asian guys bring to the game in Thermae rather than their race, their size, endurance level or the supposed (or suspect, imo) overpaying. They generally arrive in pairs, groups, waves of chatty, smiling, happy friends to check out the merchandise. That is what is missing among most of the Farangs those girls see in the place.
I realize this might seem to some to be jumping through hoops to appeal to the girls in Thermae but I only see it as a slightly different approach from what one does in a go-go bar or beer bar. True, today's Thermae is not the place to go for a pecker grab from a girl you've never been with. Although that has happened to me recently, too. And she was a very attractive lady, too. Yep, I was standing next to a friend chatting it up and not paying that much attention to the girls around us. And, of course, if one is not impressed by the looks of the girls there or they are not hopeful for the prospects for getting your kind of GFE or PSE for the night (more often my issue), then I suppose it is a moot point and definitely not worth any thought given to a different approach. For me, I rarely see a night where there are 50+ girls in Thermae that I can't also see at least 10-15 of them worthy of absorbing my precious ejaculate, based purely on looks that is. But that's me.
To illustrate my point about Asian vs Farang customer interest from the girls at Thermae being based much more on our demeanor than on our race, age, looks and so on, I have a few times in the past several months taken the line up stroll through Thermae with a grey haired, 67 year old (and looked it) black man with a belly hanging over his belt and I swear he got as many smiles of approval, nods, winks, even reach outs as I have ever seen for Asians in that place. He had no problem taking a girl of his choosing on more than one of those occasions. But he was neatly dressed in nice slacks and a casual but collared Polo-type shirt, real shoes, had a big smile on his face, the two of us chatting briefly here and there as we took that stroll; "signs of pleasant and fun life". There was nothing about his race, age or looks that made those girls less than enthusiastic about being seen walking out with him.
Perhaps not advisable to repeat as some of these guys look like they moonlight as hit men.
Mr. Scam watch,
เทศกิจ
thâyt-sà-gìt
• municipal official
The "Thetsakij" spelling is not very helpful to pronounce it.
It is clearly a long running scam but I would be interested to hear what happens to guys refusing to pay and telling them to call the real Police. Police are corrupt as well. Obviously Thais don't pay so are not targeted. I refused to pay from a scam in an upstairs PhatPong bar 25 years ago, and nothing happened to me. The tough guys just backed down in the end.
I wonder if these inspectors would have drugs to plant on guys who are too difficult to scam easily.
I once had a quarter of one Kamagra tablet confiscated by a cop, stopping taxis once, on Sukhumvit-Asoke corner. That is all I had for emergencies, in my wallet. LOL. He seemed to know what it was. Of course no problem to go the nearby Pharmacy to buy some more. I guess he was looking for something else in reality.
You bring up an important element that I believe is key to achieving better results in today's Thermae. I have certainly noticed it applying to me on my recent visits. When I go there alone, I am in agreement with Eszpresszo in that it is best not to waste much time; zero in on a couple of likely candidates and approach. Don't get stuck glued to the bar letting too much time pass while the glue really settles in and makes it more difficult to detach yourself from it to make your move. And when you do come in and get right to it, make sure you fake a truly sincere smile and light attitude about it. Whether you choose a girl here tonight is of little "emotional" consequence since there are so many outside that door waiting for you instead. That kind of cavalier attitude with a confident smile. Regardless of looks or age, I believe it is that kind of demeanor that will make a Thermae girl more apt to feel good about walking out with you. You are the kind of guy other girls wish they could bag this night as well, and the girl you have chosen knows it. This is quite different from conditions in a go-go bar imo.
Could be a factor in my non success rate. I tend to take a long time to select a girl. Purely because I like to have time to study how they interact with others and to choose the best girl rather than pulling the trigger too early. Often takes time to assess her likely figure under some very non revealing outfits too.
However with recent refusal by a stunner waiting for someone, it was pretty clear that I approached her at the first opportunity, without delay other than waiting for a Japanese guy to stop talking to her and go away. Maybe a very slight delay as somehow let the Japanese guy get to her first. He beat me to her by literally less than 5 seconds.
Several visits I chose no one, as could not be sure any girl was really exciting me. Never saw 10 to 15 girls of interest. Maximum would be about 3 for me. Was considering one girl despite her obvious silicones, but Banana Boi warned me, she has very tiny pussy, likes small dick, and likes it to be over very quick. So choosing is tough. Where to get a girl who wants DFK, and an extended Farang dicking, and actually hot for it? Could be I am not in the right place. LOL
They should have a new system. Girls should have a placard around their neck. ST or LT?, Farangs or East Asians only?, DFK?, Anal?, Baby? etc. Just kidding but it would make selection a lot easier.
Yes it is best to act very fast, if can find a stunner. If not, she will be taken by a Japanese guy, before you can say Rip-Van-Winkle. Happens too any times. Never found out if she would have been a dud or not.
Contrast this with my first ever Thermae girl in 1991 who was a nice looking girl from Phitsanulok with almost no English. She was so passionate on the bed, I took her for LT on 3 or 4 nights running, and she had amazing natural tits (no baby), perfect body, and somewhat of an exhibitionist (she knew her body was hot). Worked as a shop assistant in Silom during the day. I was so upset when she went back to Phitsanulok. I was semi-hooked on her already. Probably cost me between 500 and 1K per night. Can't quite remember. Cowboy bargirls were usually 500 LT in 1991.
Something I found interesting recently was I went to Crazy House wearing crappy clothes (shorts, sandals, t-shirt). I hadn't even showered or washed my hair that day and looked like hell. One of the girls quoted me 2000 baht for her services.Horrific, you should have been told members only. I can't stand sitting near stinky guys like this. The clothing sounds okay. At least not sweaty singlet (to show off muscles?), and flip-flops. You really would look strange in a suit and tie, most likely. I certainly won't be dressing up for a gogo bar.
I am also not keen on loud semi-drunk guys who stand around blocking the walking way, and refusing to take a seat. You know who you are guys that like to stand at edge of the stage with beer in hand, when seats are available. They often get in the way, crash into people, or block the view of those who are seated. Generally seem to be showing off how Macho they are. What for? I like the quiet customers. Partying is O.K. if don't get in the way of others. No, I certainly don't want to see drunk guys try to get on the stage to dance. I am not gay. Maybe the girls want it. If so, O.K. I guess.
Horrific, you should have been told members only. I'm white. I think the "members only" bit is only for Indians, Pakistanis, Blacks and Arabs.
I slightly miss the really old days, where you could go into a Phat Phong bar upstairs like Kangaroo bar, Annie's Rose, or SOL, and undress girls in the bar and be seriously molesting them, maybe fingers in snatch, while getting a blowjob, or licking pussy, or fuck the girl right in the bar. Toy bar seemed to have this years ago also. I tried After School once maybe 2 or 3 years ago, but was disappointing, with girl not wanting to get any gear off, just give BJ in the back corner hidden away somewhat.
Has the political crackdown ended all of this, or is it still available as raunchy as the old days in certain bars? I have not seen any really public sex recently. In the old days, it was quite normal to pull a girl's knickers down or off in the bar, in the raunchy places and start what you liked as long as kept buying drinks for her and yourself.
Last trip to Kangaroo, the girls seemed to want to go to dark back room for sex play, with room charges included. No fun at all and not worth the charges.
...zero in on a couple of likely candidates and approach. Don't get stuck glued to the bar letting too much time pass while the glue really settles in and makes it more difficult to detach yourself from it to make your move. And when you do come in and get right to it, make sure you fake a truly sincere smile and light attitude about it. Whether you choose a girl here tonight is of little "emotional" consequence since there are so many outside that door waiting for you instead. That kind of cavalier attitude with a confident smile. Regardless of looks or age, I believe it is that kind of demeanor that will make a Thermae girl more apt to feel good about walking out with you.
...It is, I believe, the "signs of life" or, more to the point, "signs of pleasant and fun life" that those girls are looking for in order to feel comfortable about walking out with a Farang instead of an Asian. If anything, that is more the advantage Asian guys bring to the game in Thermae rather than their race, their size, endurance level or the supposed (or suspect, imo) overpaying... I like this discussion about Thermae. It reminds me of the days when I was learning to ski and attempting to tackle challenging advanced slopes. It took an act of God for me to go down a steep slope. Luckily, I had an advanced skier with me who kept encouraging me, and I was able to finally rise up to the challenge when I was joined by another skier at my level, and we did it together.
Thermae these days presents the same challenge for me. I have been there 4 times over the past 2 years. In the first 2 visits (2 years ago), I was wildly successful as I picked up 2 eye candies in a row, over 2 days. But the last 2 visits a year later were disastrous in my view. Analyzing the situation, I came to the conclusion that my success in the first 2 visits was due to my attitude. I remember approaching those girls without hesitation, with a big smile on my face, and with tremendous self confidence. But I believe in later visits, I started to doubt myself, assuming these girls were looking for Asian customers only. So, my intention is to go back to Thermae next time I am in Bangkok and take on the challenge again.
Having said that, I believe it is true that Asians have it easier than us (non-Asians). I have asked many working girls about that (after becoming friendly with them), and pretty much all of them admitted to me that they prefer Asian customers. The reasons given was that Asian customers are easier to please as they are not too demanding, and they tend to accept what they get. Some girls also mentioned their generosity as well, but mostly for Japanese customers.
It is even worse for me as I am not white, and could easily pass for Indian. However, I have learned to overcome that handicap a long time ago, given that I am nuts about pretty girls. I feel they are the only ones worth paying money for.
Hi men,
I was plotting a Vietnamese restaurant on my Bangkok map, Madame T, and found this bar called The Lemon club on Sukhumvit 23 the web site is in Chinese but seems set up like a fish bowl style of selection. Has anyone been to either restaurant or that club?
Thanks.
I slightly miss the really old days, where you could go into a Phat Phong bar upstairs like Kangaroo bar, Annie's Rose, or SOL, and undress girls in the bar and be seriously molesting them, maybe fingers in snatch, while getting a blowjob, or licking pussy, or fuck the girl right in the bar. Toy bar seemed to have this years ago also. I tried After School once maybe 2 or 3 years ago, but was disappointing, with girl not wanting to get any gear off, just give BJ in the back corner hidden away somewhat.
Has the political crackdown ended all of this, or is it still available as raunchy as the old days in certain bars? I have not seen any really public sex recently. In the old days, it was quite normal to pull a girl's knickers down or off in the bar, in the raunchy places and start what you liked as long as kept buying drinks for her and yourself.
Last trip to Kangaroo, the girls seemed to want to go to dark back room for sex play, with room charges included. No fun at all and not worth the charges.I guess it's all in the timing. I spent years in the 90's coming to Thailand and making the rounds to all the most infamous bars 2-3 weeks per year. I have now spent several years living in Thailand, been to all the most likely places to witness such a thing except Star of Light in Patpong where, after passing by that bar maybe 100 times over the years I have yet to see one lady I'd want to blow me or even be alone with. However, other than those few times when someone else is being serviced behind a curtain at L0lita's, I have only been witness by either sight or sound to two occasions where some form of physical contact sex was being performed on someone else in the bar.
The first one was a few months ago when I saw a couple of girls getting their pussies briefly licked by ringside customers in Windmill Bar, Pattaya. The other was about a month ago in Foxzee Bar, a somewhat new beer bar on a tiny sub soi just off Sukhumvit Soi 20 in Bangkok. Some dude came in, rang the bell, and was set upon by a handful of girls, one of which unzipped his fly and began to give him a BJ and then a lap dance. But even then I didn't really see much other than her pulling his willy out through the fly before sitting him down on a couch opposite and obscured by the bar area. I was the only other customer in the place at the time.
About 3 years ago I found myself in the Naughty Boy's Corner of After School supposedly about to get a double blowjob from a couple of girls. But that turned out to be so much not my scene I called it off before it really began. I've been in there a few other times and never seen anyone else pulled into the Naughty Boy's Corner.
Weird. I have heard and read about all this public sex supposedly going on in this or that bar over the years, read reports of guys getting blown while sitting at the bar in Kangaroo Bar or walking past some guy getting blown at the bar and all that, even current reports of such a thing happening. Yet I have not personally seen anything like that happening other than the two recent occasions mentioned above. Actually, in terms of a sexual act that could be fully seen by me, only the two girls getting their pussies licked at Windmill Bar qualified since the guy in Foxzee Bar was pulled down behind the bar and nobody other than him and the girls involved could see what was going on.
I was in Bangkok a week after the King died, and everyone was wearing black. Places were still open, but things were subdued. Can someone give me an assessment of the current mood? Are they still wearing black? How is the atmosphere? How is the mongering in general? Is Siam Nirimit still performing? I'm thinking about a trip in mid-February and trying to decide between Bangkok and Jakarta. I would appreciate any comments.
Canyon.
Member #2041
01-02-17, 00:48
I guess it's all in the timing. I spent years in the 90's coming to Thailand and making the rounds to all the most infamous bars 2-3 weeks per year. I have now spent several years living in Thailand, been to all the most likely places to witness such a thing except Star of Light in Patpong where, after passing by that bar maybe 100 times over the years I have yet to see one lady I'd want to blow me or even be alone with. However, other than those few times when someone else is being serviced behind a curtain at L0 lita's, I have only been witness by either sight or sound to two occasions where some form of physical contact sex was being performed on someone else in the bar. The first one was a few months ago when I saw a couple of girls getting their pussies licked by ringside customers in Windmill Bar, Pattaya. The other was about a month ago in Foxzee Bar, a somewhat new beer bar on a tiny sub soi just off Sukhumvit Soi 20 in Bangkok. Some dude came in, rang the bell, and was set upon by a handful of girls, one of which unzipped his fly and began to give him a BJ and then a lap dance. But even then I didn't really see much other than her pulling his willy out through the fly before sitting him down on a couch opposite and obscured by the bar area. I was the only other customer in the place at the time.
About 3 years ago I found myself in the Naughty Boy's Corner of After School supposedly about to get a double blowjob from a couple of girls. But that turned out to be so much not my scene I called it off before it really began. I've been in there a few other times and never seen anyone else pulled into the Naughty Boy's Corner.
Weird. I have heard and read about all this public sex supposedly going on in this or that bar for so many years, read reports of guys getting blown while sitting at Kangaroo Bar and all that, even current reports of such a thing happening. Yet I have not personally seen anything like that happening other than the two recent occasions mentioned above. Actually, in terms of a sexual act that could be fully seen by me, only the two girls getting their pussies licked at Windmill Bar qualified since the guy in Foxzee Bar was pulled down behind the bar and nobody other than him and the girls involved could see what was going on.About 8-10 years ago there was an excellent spinner who went by the name of Rabbit at S-O-L who I had the pleasure of fucking raw in the toilet of the bar, after she had, of course, smoked me in public in the bar itself. At a later date, I also took Rabbit out of S-O-L for long time service at my room at the Royal Orchid Sheraton back in the day when it was an SPG Cat-2 hotel, and quite the bargain using Starwood points. Rabbit was well known to be the best thing at S-O-L for at least 5 years back in the day. I wonder what ever happened to her. But I always used to wonder how she, being a solid 8, could possibly work at S-O-L when everyone else who worked there was between a 3 and a 6.
About 8-10 years ago there was an excellent spinner who went by the name of Rabbit at S-O-L who I had the pleasure of fucking raw in the toilet of the bar, after she had, of course, smoked me in public in the bar itself. At a later date, I also took Rabbit out of S-O-L for long time service at my room at the Royal Orchid Sheraton back in the day when it was an SPG Cat-2 hotel, and quite the bargain using Starwood points.Ah, I wouldn't have been here 8-10 years ago, not even on vacation as my vacation visits were prior to that. So I would not have seen the girls outside Star of Light then. Is that the same Rabbit / Mai that worked more recently at Som's Haven? If so, she was cute and I could see her being an even cuter spinner 8-10 years ago.
Member #2041
01-02-17, 01:32
Ah, I wouldn't have been here 8-10 years ago, not even on vacation as my vacation visits were prior to that. So I would not have seen the girls outside Star of Light then. Is that the same Rabbit / Mai that worked more recently at Som's Haven? If so, she was cute and I could see her being an even cuter spinner 8-10 years ago.I couldn't tell you, as I haven't been to Thailand since early in 2012.
Edit: Actually, I found some fairly new posts on other venues as recently as early 2016 that reported that Rabbit was still at SOL, and is still one of the top girls there. That girl must have had 10,000 dicks release in her mouth by now.
I was in Bangkok a week after the King died, and everyone was wearing black. Places were still open, but things were subdued. Can someone give me an assessment of the current mood? Are they still wearing black? How is the atmosphere? How is the mongering in general? Is Siam Nirimit still performing? I'm thinking about a trip in mid-February and trying to decide between Bangkok and Jakarta. I would appreciate any comments.
Canyon.Some people will try to wear non coloured clothing for a whole year. It does not affect you. TV Stations removed the colour from their Logo.
Mongering is back to normal, almost. Extra girls seem to have disappeared from Bangkok bars, and not answering LINE messages (probably have no internet in country farm), but could be purely coincidental.
I will leave it to you to look up Siam Niramit on the web. No reason why anyone here would know more than you. Its not that important, since you have seen it already right?
I know very few Crazy House girls any more. I only have three regular MP girls left and saw them rarely. So regular girls in recent contact is very minimal numbers. Only two girls done more than once recently. Time to acquire some new girls and find some old ones again. I could possibly wipe out nearly half my LINE girl contacts. Time to try new things, voluptuous girls (LOL), Escorts, Foreign girls, G clubs maybe. The big problem is to find enough pretty girls, as always.
I probably need to sit at some soapies for 2 hours patiently to try to find the stunners. I can't even remember much about my last two soapy girls now. Alzheimers setting in.
However, other than those few times when someone else is being serviced behind a curtain at L0lita's, I have only been witness by either sight or sound to two occasions where some form of physical contact sex was being performed on someone else in the bar.
.Yes the 90s was the really raunchy time for Phat Phong upstairs dirty bars, once you understood which bars were not the rip off places.
I agree that girls' standard in SOL in recent years seems not doable. I did not pass more than the odd occasion however. So nothing done there for years. One of my favourites left about the same time as Som (years ago), and went to work in Chitlom department store. I may still have her phone number LOL.
We are also agreed that After School was far to timid to be at all fun.
Loli-tas has a very strong policy of no playing up in the public bar. Upstairs only. No fun at all. Not sure why the owner is so proud of that.
Guess I need to inquire directly at Kangaroo Club, Toy Bar, After School, SOL, etc. , just how raunchy it can be in the modern day. I will try to see who is willing to get their gear off for a drink or a tip, next visit, to begin with. I am not even sure that SOL has BBBJ in the open bar any more, since the military government.
I fear that Crazy House is more raunchy now than some of those bars, in that girls are naked, and my regular girls, when a little inebriated, are not too perturbed with light breast and pussy play. I don't do stuff that might upset the girl though. Anyone can easily see when a girl tries to avoid something. After all, I have done them very thoroughly in private, and they hope to get another fuck.
Hi men,
I was plotting a Vietnamese restaurant on my Bangkok map, Madame T, and found this bar called The Lemon club on Sukhumvit 23 the web site is in Chinese but seems set up like a fish bowl style of selection. Has anyone been to either restaurant or that club?
Thanks.Japanese Karaoke Club.
http://thailand.world-night-guide.com/jp/pc/detail/index.php?rainbow_no=2593
I have eaten at Le Dalat in Soi 23 which was quite good but not tried Madam T.
I know very few Crazy House girls any more.Have you tried the dark skinned one with many tattoos, many piercings and silicone boobs? She's hot!
StLouisMo2010
01-02-17, 04:31
Red Car Bar is referenced in Pattaya for its clientele above 50+ with ladies to match or focus on us older guys. Any similar venues in Bangkok?
Have you tried the dark skinned one with many tattoos, many piercings and silicone boobs? She's hot!I can see she is "raunchy" if that is what you mean by hot. The silicones have improved her tits that were sag bags before. The excessive piercings and tats would already put me off but she has a somewhat masculine face for me, with rather pronounced jaw. Looks LB like. No wrong, perhaps that would be too much of a compliment (to some). She is not as pretty as many LBs. Not the worst looking girl in the bar, but I can't even contemplate her at all. Even if she were in the Star of Light, I still would not take her. LOL
My taste is for pretty girls over raunchy girls, in this type of venue. Each to their own. A bit more natural feminine look for me.
I see lots of Farangs are choosing the raunchiest girls who often have plain faces, and sometimes straight non curvy bodies (other girls), and they don't care about piercings, silicones, big noses, etc. The Japanese customers sometimes are choosing girls closer to my taste. If the Japanese were really into surgeries big time, they would in Baccara more than likely.
Pahllus Maximus
01-02-17, 06:11
I agree that it is not wise or etiquette to share another forum with the girls, but then again, it is not like it is secret or hard to find with Mr. Google, even for for a Thai street walker recently off the paddy fields in Isaan glued to her new smart phone toy. More to the point, does it matter? Does some street walker, assuming she can read English (a big assumption), have nay influence or pricing power let alone any incentive to improve service to a stream on one-timers before her shore career ends?
No.
Secondly, on face, strutting around bare assed naked in public, running off to hotels and / or and sucking off of guys in public is hardly redeeming or social climbing (let alone maintaining altitude), nor is having a shot of cum on her face / nostrils / mouth. Many. Or most. In Thai and / or other cultures would see this conduct as theéclassé and un-lady like. The same can be said for doing her anally or having her lick her friend (separately and / or simultaneously). So, this faux Asian "face" empathy more resembles a type of guilt of pretending to be culturally sensitive in bars that by their very existence are a direct full frontal assault on traditional Thai sensibilities. It may come as a surprise, but many Western men, earning multiples of local Thais, coming in, throwing cash around, groping and / or drunk and phucking the brains out of local Thai women is hardly debonaire, even if they are sensitive to the pussy power price signalling of two competing Isaan hos, but conveniently forgetting that the same hos are hardly the esteemed guests in polite Thai dinner tables.
I love these girls, and I treat them well, but please do keep a sense of reality when in sex Disneyland. Their golden skin and exotic charms / language does not transform a hooker to some delicate Asian high intellectual / sensitive being offended that that slobbering water buffalo (Caucasian) on heat chose their competitors rather than marrying her and sailing off into the sunset happily ever after with an orchestra playing. They see the water buffalo as walking ATM machines with no self-control at the whim of their pussy. As a fluent speaker of an Asian language, I can assure you that the west means many things, but foreign barbarian. Or beast. Is a common theme. The same is true of other cultures with cashed up peasant / strangers fly in / fly out and phucking their women, even Caucasian ones. Western guys trigger all sorts of stereotypes. Any of the resident western guys know it. A middle class Thai girl would be reluctant to hand with a white guy because of the risk of being associated with her loose sisters.
After 20 years of mongering in several continents, the more I see, the same it is. Girls are mostly in this for money. They hate getting phucked by strangers. They would rather just have a rich 95 year old intensive care to get married to or maybe a quickie before he croaks.
So enough of this "face" bullsh! T. Those of us old enough remember Cabernet Voltaire's "Don't Argue": you are in enemy territory, have fun, enjoy, you may even meet an exceptional nice girl who hooked for a while, but that's a mostly a Julia Roberts fairy tale. They girls are to trade pussy for cash to satisfy our lust. We are lustful because we are, after all, men, and secondly, are horny because of fat western white women throwing pots and pans around and no BJ's, lights out, and that's on a rare day.
Long live LOS and LBFM's who have added to our lives whilst exporting a renewable, high-value added service to aid Thailand's terms of trade and prop up its exchange rate. Imagine the Asian currency crisis in the 1990's if there were no pussy to sell. They should be recognized as the "bare-foot" doctors (like in China under Mao) doing good by doing well. But, keep it steadily in mind there are no blushes when asked point blank for rimming, anal, threesome, BBJCIM etc etc. It cracks me up reading about "face".
I agree that it is not wise or etiquette to share another forum with the girls, but then again, it is not like it is secret or hard to find with Mr. Google, even for for a Thai street walker recently off the paddy fields in Isaan glued to her new smart phone toy. More to the point, does it matter? Does some street walker, assuming she can read English (a big assumption), have nay influence or pricing power let alone any incentive to improve service to a stream on one-timers before her shore career ends?
No.
Trying to entertain, or be funny? Missed the mark. Contemptuous, yes. I did not read to the end so probably missed the main point. Probably the post belongs in the General Thread. Yes "face" should be bullshit in the mongering scene.
Everyone does work for money. So to say Thai girls are in it for the money, is self evident. To say they hate fucking strangers, is generalisation. They hate fucking some of the customers undoubtedly, and one MP girl Cat told me she hated over 50% of her regular customers, saying they were Psycho cases, yet she still was O.K. to get it off with me. She was capable of orgasm while working. Sure all these girls really hate to cum too.
On Filipina hooker actually told me it was a turn on for her to fuck strangers, as long as she felt the right chemistry. She refuses all customers who don't really give her a good feeling. I also know a Thai girl who claims to have never had a Thai man in her life and started with Farangs very young, later realising she could make money this way as well. Now retired but still likes fucking regularly.
Once had a bargirl who woke me up several times during the night to have more sex, with me a complete stranger (apart from the early fuck). What percentage of customers fucks are really hated? I have no idea. It may be large. Bargirls have it better as can refuse customers they don't like more easily.
If there are signs a girl really hates fucking me, I don't take her anymore. With bargirls, they can easily avoid you, if they don't like you much, and some do.
Asian Rain
01-02-17, 08:02
I was in Bangkok a week after the King died, and everyone was wearing black. Places were still open, but things were subdued. Can someone give me an assessment of the current mood? Are they still wearing black? How is the atmosphere? How is the mongering in general? Is Siam Nirimit still performing? I'm thinking about a trip in mid-February and trying to decide between Bangkok and Jakarta. I would appreciate any comments.Lots of people still wearing black as 100-day mourning period will go the end of January. However, everything has pretty much returned to normal at bars. At Soi Cowboy coyotes have returned with revealing outfits and other Sukhimvit venues are normal. Thermae is the same Asian meat market. The scene there peaks this week with the Japanese sex tourists taking their extended new year holiday. Time to strike Thermae is Sunday after they all return. Only thing missing is that the cart bars along Sukhimvit have been permanently dispensed with the general closure of street stalls, except I see a couple have tried to come back as what I call "pop-up bars" with some ladies popping up some chairs and working with a basket of bottles. I saw a former cart bar girl working at the bar in front of Soi Cowboy last night. Otherwise it same same. You can check other public venues by their web sites. Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.
Girls are mostly in this for money. They hate getting phucked by strangers. They would rather just have a rich 95 year old intensive care to get married to or maybe a quickie before he croaks.
So enough of this "face" bullsh! T. Those of us old enough remember Cabernet Voltaire's "Don't Argue": you are in enemy territory, have fun, enjoy, you may even meet an exceptional nice girl who hooked for a while, but that's a mostly a Julia Roberts fairy tale. They girls are to trade pussy for cash to satisfy our lust. We are lustful because we are, after all, men, and secondly, are horny because of fat western white women throwing pots and pans around and no BJ's, lights out, and that's on a rare day.I suspect the reality is somewhere in between, with elements at both extremes. We are all products of our environments, and if Thailand had a welfare system and wages comparable to many other countries, then many of the 'ladies' working in the 'industry' would have alternatives and the 'opportunities' for farangs would be limited.
Love the reference to Cabaret Voltaire, one of my favorite UK post-punk bands of the 70's /80's /90's. Cabernet Voltaire's "Don't Argue".
Hi all,
Can anyone suggest some soapy massage place and Full Service massage joints near Lebua at State Tower hotel at Riverside.
Help would be really appreciated.
Thanks.
Member #2041
01-02-17, 17:43
Hi all,
Can anyone suggest some soapy massage place and Full Service massage joints near Lebua at State Tower hotel at Riverside.
Help would be really appreciated.
Thanks.Probably the ones in Patpong are the closest.
Manfield04
01-02-17, 19:00
Most sex soapy massage parlors are located along Ratchadaphisek Road around the Huai Khwang area. You can either go by taxi to MRT.
Can anyone suggest some soapy massage place and Full Service massage joints near Lebua at State Tower hotel at Riverside.
I will have 3 Prescription drugs with me in my carry on, in there pill containers with my name on them and Dr.info. When going through customs should I get in the red line to declare them? Or the green line and have nothing to declare? Are the RX something that needs to be declared? And is the original container enough info. Or do you need othe Dr. Letter? Cialas, levrothyoxin, and Malaria vaccine pill form,
Thanks Geno.
I will have 3 Prescription drugs with me in my carry on, in there pill containers with my name on them and Dr.info. When going through customs should I get in the red line to declare them? Or the green line and have nothing to declare? Are the RX something that needs to be declared? And is the original container enough info. Or do you need othe Dr. Letter? Cialas, levrothyoxin, and Malaria vaccine pill form,
Thanks Geno.So long as you are not carrying any psychotropic drugs or those containing narcotics I am pretty sure you can just go through the green line. That is certainly what I would do. For psychotropic drugs, even rather mild ones like Ambien, Valium, etc. , there is a routine one is supposed to go through, including applying for the right to bring them in before you take the trip, but I doubt many take this requirement very seriously unless one is doing something like carrying narcotics for pain reduction.
So long as the containers are properly labelled there would be no need for doctor's note or other documentation.
Hi all,
Can anyone suggest some soapy massage place and Full Service massage joints near Lebua at State Tower hotel at Riverside.
Help would be really appreciated.
Thanks.Soapies are spread around. Nothing is really close. Takara and Infinity JC (if still operatin) in Phat Phong are closest.
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@13.7206804,100.5149554,13z/data=!4m2!6m1!1s1evMrgWXl50uDmmr6Mhr9HkwZAbs?hl=en
Map is a little out of date.
I would suggest IDA, or Sao Botan, at about 3 to 4 km away.
So long as you are not carrying any psychotropic drugs or those containing narcotics I am pretty sure you can just go through the green line. That is certainly what I would do. For psychotropic drugs, even rather mild ones like Ambien, Valium, etc. , there is a routine one is supposed to go through, including applying for the right to bring them in before you take the trip, but I doubt many take this requirement very seriously unless one is doing something like carrying narcotics for pain reduction.
So long as the containers are properly labelled there would be no need for doctor's note or other documentation.If everyone who carries prescription drugs were to queue up to declare them, there would be chaos. Do you think that those aging Westerners are getting by on yoghurt?
The International standard is that you do not have to declare prescription drugs for personal use but some countries, apparently like Thailand, get squirrely about psychotropic drugs. In the latter case, I would carry the prescription or keep them in the container with the doctor's name and your name on it. In the case of all other drugs for personal use, there is no need to declare.
If everyone who carries prescription drugs were to queue up to declare them, there would be chaos. Do you think that those aging Westerners are getting by on yoghurt?
The International standard is that you do not have to declare prescription drugs for personal use but some countries, apparently like Thailand, get squirrely about psychotropic drugs. In the latter case, I would carry the prescription or keep them in the container with the doctor's name and your name on it. In the case of all other drugs for personal use, there is no need to declare.I don't like the tone of your first two sentences. I said in the post you were responding to that so long as it is not a psychotropic drug I was pretty sure you don't have to declare it and, in fact, I don't. Do you have a problem understanding plain English?
As to psychotropic drugs, the law in Thailand is clear that you cannot bring them in without advance approval assuming it is a psychotropic drug that is let in the country at all. Given the lax customs procedures at the airport it is unlikely bringing such drugs through the green customs line without declaring them will result in a problem, but it is not out of the question it could if customs should decide to examine your baggage. In any event, your uneducated speculation about what would or would not work for psychotropic drugs if caught with them is just that, uneducated speculation.
I don't like the tone of your first two sentences. I said in the post you were responding to that so long as it is not a psychotropic drug I was pretty sure you don't have to declare it and, in fact, I don't. Do you have a problem understanding plain English?
Slight over reaction, IMHO. Just because I guy replies to your post, does not mean he is disagreeing with you. Could be he just adds his own comments. I often do that. I have seen guys get upset for no reason just because I quoted part of their post to set the topic.
Yes you made it clear your view, and he tried to make "funny" satire, with "Do you think that those aging Westerners are getting by on yoghurt? But did not say he was disagreeing, or say something you wrote was wrong. When he uses the word "you", it can be interpreted as a collective you of various guys of the forum. So I don't see it as trying to pick a fight at all.
Slight over reaction, IMHO. Just because I guy replies to your post, does not mean he is disagreeing with you. Could be he just adds his own comments. I often do that. I have seen guys get upset for no reason just because I quoted part of their post to set the topic.
Yes you made it clear your view, and he tried to make "funny" satire, with "Do you think that those aging Westerners are getting by on yoghurt? But did not say he was disagreeing, or say something you wrote was wrong. When he uses the word "you", it can be interpreted as a collective you of various guys of the forum. So I don't see it as trying to pick a fight at all.I understand what you are saying. Assuming your interpretation is correct, it would have, however, avoided any misunderstandings had he quoted and responded directly to Geono's post asking the question about prescription drugs going through customs, rather than my response to Geono's question.
Japanese Karaoke Club.
Why you don't put the Link in english?? Just change jp in en.
http://thailand.world-night-guide.com/en/pc/detail/index.php?rainbow_no=2593
Why you don't put the Link in english?? Just change jp in en.
http://thailand.world-night-guide.com/en/pc/detail/index.php?rainbow_no=2593Do you really want to know?
Simple answer to that. My search returned a Japanese Page, and I did not see a Language select button. Hence I used Google Translate to read it.
Went to Soms last night around 10:30 pm. There were about 8 girls outside eating or hanging and I chose two. Both a little overweight one with fake glasses. They seemed in a hurry as everything was moving fast and I asked them to slow down a few times because that is my style. I have been coming here after Dr BJs closed and have overall been satisfied with the service. Not bad not the best. Went to Moulin Rouge last week in PI and had 5 girls surround me and give me samples that were far better then this but I left satisfied. I used to like Dr BJs and how it was set up. I went by after to see the new "Wood" and saw a favorite outside. She said things are the same but there were not a lot of girls working when I was there.
Slight over reaction, IMHO. Just because I guy replies to your post, does not mean he is disagreeing with you. Could be he just adds his own comments. I often do that. I have seen guys get upset for no reason just because I quoted part of their post to set the topic.
Yes you made it clear your view, and he tried to make "funny" satire, with "Do you think that those aging Westerners are getting by on yoghurt? But did not say he was disagreeing, or say something you wrote was wrong. When he uses the word "you", it can be interpreted as a collective you of various guys of the forum. So I don't see it as trying to pick a fight at all.The dude you are responding to with this post is overly sensitive. He doesn't understand male humor and has many similar sensitive reactions in the Jakarta thread. He carries a man purse if that is any indication of his mindset.
Last night I noticed that there are much less girls outside the bars especially the bars that had the set types in front. None were out. Guessing the city is changing after the King is gone. The street shopping area near Soi 4 also seemed to be almost completely missing. There were big crowds and even Baccara was holding the curtain open and inviting people without having to join as in the past. Just wondering if this is a crack down or just a change. Also there were police sitting at tables near both entrances which I have never seen in this area before. Some cute girls dancing AfterSkool who were a lot of fun for the price of a drink. Tit was the name of one girl who was very hands on. Lots of fun.
Member #4591
01-03-17, 13:08
I don't like the tone of your first two sentences. I said in the post you were responding to that so long as it is not a psychotropic drug I was pretty sure you don't have to declare it and, in fact, I don't. Do you have a problem understanding plain English?
As to psychotropic drugs, the law in Thailand is clear that you cannot bring them in without advance approval assuming it is a psychotropic drug that is let in the country at all. Given the lax customs procedures at the airport it is unlikely bringing such drugs through the green customs line without declaring them will result in a problem, but it is not out of the question it could if customs should decide to examine your baggage. In any event, your uneducated speculation about what would or would not work for psychotropic drugs if caught with them is just that, uneducated speculation.Way too sensitive LA guy. Often you are like this. Syzgies always offers his extra knowledge to posts.
The dude you are responding to with this post is overly sensitive. He doesn't understand male humor and has many similar sensitive reactions in the Jakarta thread. He carries a man purse if that is any indication of his mindset.The interesting thing about Smoothy's post is after he was run out of another forum for his obnoxious posts, he wrote to me by private mail and basically suggested I not respond to his posts and he would not respond to mine, there or here. He put me on his ignore list here, but can't seem to help himself and continues to stalk me. He along with one of his friends has essentially destroyed the Jakarta board here owing to their obnoxious behavior there, which I along with others objected to.
Particularly because he earlier suggested we not respond to each other here, one has to question what purpose was served by his post other than to prove once again he is a pathetic loser.
I can see she is "raunchy" if that is what you mean by hot. The silicones have improved her tits that were sag bags before. The excessive piercings and tats would already put me off but she has a somewhat masculine face for me, with rather pronounced jaw. Looks LB like. No wrong, perhaps that would be too much of a compliment (to some). She is not as pretty as many LBs. Not the worst looking girl in the bar, but I can't even contemplate her at all. Even if she were in the Star of Light, I still would not take her. LOL
My taste is for pretty girls over raunchy girls, in this type of venue. Each to their own. A bit more natural feminine look for me.
I see lots of Farangs are choosing the raunchiest girls who often have plain faces, and sometimes straight non curvy bodies (other girls), and they don't care about piercings, silicones, big noses, etc. The Japanese customers sometimes are choosing girls closer to my taste. If the Japanese were really into surgeries big time, they would in Baccara more than likely.I don't know about the Japanese not being into surgeries. Remember that one chick at Baccara maybe about 7 years ago? She had gigantic fake boobs (biggest I have ever seen in Thailand), white skin, shortish blonde hair and a Japanese looking face. She was extremely popular with the Japanese there. Hell, she would be bar fined almost immediately after returning to the bar after a short time. I took her once to see why she was so popular and she had the stinkiest pussy I have ever smelled in Asia. And this was AFTER a shower. I had to throw her out. The smell was just too bad.
I like girls of all sizes and shapes. I even tried a midget once from soi cowboy. She was really quite attractive from the waist up, but those short legs were a big turn off in bed. I won't do that again, but it's checked off my bucket list. Haha.
Way to sensitive LA guy. Often you are like this. Syzgies always offers his extra knowledge to posts.There are three guys on ISG who often post exceedingly obnoxious posts and really bring this board down. They are BKKdog, Smoothy, and Ko. I make no apologies for reacting to such people in the manner in which I do.
Member #4591
01-03-17, 13:16
The interesting thing about Smoothy's post is after he was run out of another forum for his obnoxious posts, he wrote to me by private mail and basically suggested I not respond to his posts and he would not respond to mine, there or here. He put me on his ignore list here, but can't seem to help himself and continues to stalk me. He along with one of his friends has essentially destroyed the Jakarta board here owing to their obnoxious behavior there, which I along with others objected to.
Particularly because he earlier suggested we not respond to each other here, one has to question what purpose was served by his post other than to prove once again he is a pathetic loser.So why are there 3 of us here in the Thailand thread thinking the same about you. I guess we are all crazy and you are not so sensitive. I'm sorry mate.
Member #4591
01-03-17, 13:30
There are three guys on ISG who often post exceedingly obnoxious posts and really bring this board down. They are BKKdog, Smoothy, and Ko. I make no apologies for reacting to such people in the manner in which I do.And now you are going after Syggies too? Who is the one with the problem? Please show one report of yours in the reports of distinction thread and I will be very happy to apologize to you for being so obnoxious! However, Syggies and myself better send Jackson a request to remove our posts from the reports of distinction thread because they bring this board down. You seem to have problems on this board and another board so I beg to differ, the problem is not ours, it's yours. I'm waiting to see the links to your reports of distinction as per the other members recommendations. Thanks.
And now you are going after Syggies too? Who is the one with the problem? Please show one report of yours in the reports of distinction thread and I will be very happy to apologize to you for being so obnoxious! However, Syggies and myself better send Jackson a request to remove our posts from the reports of distinction thread because they bring this board down. You seem to have problems on this board and another board so I beg to differ, the problem is not ours, it's yours. I'm waiting to see the links to your reports of distinction as per the other members recommendations. Thanks.You must be hallucinating; I only went after Syggies (sic) in your imagination.
I do have around 10,000 posts on another board and did win a monetary award there once for posting the best guide of the year. I was later asked to be a moderator there and did this for a few years while continuing to post numerous guides and trip reports. As to where my reports of distinction are here, frankly and truthfully I see your posts, Smoothy's, and Ko's, and the environment you guys create really acts as a de-motivator to post much here. I am not the only one who has reacted this way.
Member #4591
01-03-17, 14:00
You must be hallucinating; I only went after Syggies (sic) in your imagination.
I do have around 10,000 posts on another board and did win a monetary award there once for posting the best guide of the year. I was later asked to be a moderator there and did this for a few years while continuing to post numerous guides and trip reports. As to where my reports of distinction are here, frankly and truthfully I see your posts, Smoothy's, and Ko's, and the environment you guys create really acts as a de-motivator to post much here. I am not the only one who has reacted this way. You just told Syggies that you didn't like his tone and asked if him he understands English but you were not going after him? Ahh I understand now? I also understand that I am not the only one who has reacted this way about you. So case closed then. No reports of distinction for you, thanks for coming out.
I don't like the tone of your first two sentences. I said in the post you were responding to that so long as it is not a psychotropic drug I was pretty sure you don't have to declare it and, in fact, I don't. Do you have a problem understanding plain English?
Oh by the way, since you are the thread expert on obnoxious posts, could you please tell me if the 2 posts of yours I just quoted are obnoxious? If so I would like to say that they bring this board down and maybe you should stop frequenting this board and head over to the board where you are held in such high regard. I don't think ISG is the place for you mate, but unfortunately, that's not for me to decide.
You must be one of those crybaby democrats, LA Guy. Waaaa waaaa I didn't get my way again waaaaa waaaaa waaaaaa. Smoothy has been a good poster, I don't know about the other two. Smoothy has posted good advice as well as some awesome big titty girls from all over Asia.
There are three guys on ISG who often post exceedingly obnoxious posts and really bring this board down. They are BKKdog, Smoothy, and Ko. I make no apologies for reacting to such people in the manner in which I do..
Would make much more sense if you guys open your own fight thread and decide whether use guns or swords at dawn (you can set dusk if that is more convenient to you) and settle it there.
So that a moderator can clean this thread (still called "Bangkok reports") from all this flaming and reciprocal accusations or bragging who has the longest prick, pardon me, the more posts.
Both are of no interest here. Main interest here is about Bangkok shagging opportunities.
Last night I noticed that there are much less girls outside the bars especially the bars that had the set types in front. None were out. Guessing the city is changing after the King is gone. The street shopping area near Soi 4 also seemed to be almost completely missing. There were big crowds and even Baccara was holding the curtain open and inviting people without having to join as in the past. Just wondering if this is a crack down or just a change. Also there were police sitting at tables near both entrances which I have never seen in this area before. Some cute girls dancing AfterSkool who were a lot of fun for the price of a drink. Tit was the name of one girl who was very hands on. Lots of fun.Last night would have been January 2nd. Many people in Thailand are on a New Years Day break / holiday until January 4th or 5th. Probably some Coyotes, bargirls, even freelancers as well. Some shops and small restaurants were still closed as of today, January 3rd. I guess NYD is a much bigger holiday here in Thailand than it is in the USA or other countries.
The street shopping area might also have been skimpier than usual because of the New Years Day holiday, but many of those street shops on Sukhumvit have had to either move to other areas or reduce the size of their operation to cling as close as possible to the walls and fences because a new law forbids them from blocking the walkway or sidewalk now. Don't think that had anything to do with the King's death, just that those shops had inched their way toward each other on either side of the sidewalk until it was so bottlenecked nobody could get past a single shopper deciding whether to go with the fake watch that would surely croak before the week was over or the lousy power pack that wouldn't survive more than three electrical charges.
There are three guys on ISG who often post exceedingly obnoxious posts and really bring this board down. They are BKKdog, Smoothy, and Ko. I make no apologies for reacting to such people in the manner in which I do.I did not really mean to start something here. I thought I was trying to hose it off, cool it down. Not sure anyone noticed BKKDog or Smoothy being so obnoxious, other than yourself. Maybe strong opinions disagreeing with someone at times. Never heard of Ko.
Look all of us have to cop a bit of disagreement and smart ass comments at times. I even disagree strongly with my buddies at times. No big deal.
Member #2041
01-03-17, 18:19
Last night would have been January 2nd. Many people in Thailand are on a New Years Day break / holiday until January 4th or 5th. Probably some Coyotes, bargirls, even freelancers as well. Some shops and small restaurants were still closed as of today, January 3rd. I guess NYD is a much bigger holiday here in Thailand than it is in the USA or other countries.
The street shopping area might also have been skimpier than usual because of the New Years Day holiday, but many of those street shops on Sukhumvit have had to either move to other areas or reduce the size of their operation to cling as close as possible to the walls and fences because a new law forbids them from blocking the walkway or sidewalk now. Don't think that had anything to do with the King's death, just that those shops had inched their way toward each other on either side of the sidewalk until it was so bottlenecked nobody could get past a single shopper deciding whether to go with the fake watch that would surely croak before the week was over or the lousy power pack that wouldn't survive more than three electrical charges.Some of those fake watches work fine. I bought a couple of them that have lasted over 5 years.
Some of those fake watches work fine. I bought a couple of them that have lasted over 5 years.Oh, thank god. I hate to think I risked getting run over by a bus trying to make wide circles around those families of shoppers on Sukhumvit's sidewalks all for a junkie watch.
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Never heard of Ko.One of the nicest guys I've met on this forum over the years. He's posted hundreds of photos on the Indonesian forum. Class act and a big contributor to this site for many years now.
Looks LB like. No wrong, perhaps that would be too much of a compliment (to some). She is not as pretty as many LBs.To say she is not as pretty as most LBs is not an insult by any means. The best looking girls in Thailand are LBs. Haha. My theory is that if the girl is drop dead gorgeous, she must be a lady boy. It's safer to stick with the plain Jane's.
Member #4698
01-03-17, 22:04
I don't wish to get into another pissing contest so soon after the last brouhaha that I was involved in over in the Pattaya thread, 555, but as an interested and yet objective 3rd party, I thought I would just say that I have found the Jakarta thread to be a very informative place populated by a pretty good bunch of very knowlegeable guys. I still consider myself a relative newcomer to Jakarta. My next visit will be only my 4th in as many years and I am still learning my way around that large megalopolis. But I have always been treated very well over in the Jakarta forum and the resident BM's there have been very friendly and have freely given me a hell of a lot of usefull information. Hopefully I have paid it forward in some small way with my own Jakarta trip reports. So IMHO, the Jakarta forum is one of the best on the ISG. Case closed. End of story.
WildBillLewis
01-03-17, 22:26
After a few abortive attempts, I'm headed back to Asia landing in Bangkok on January 21 and heading straight for Sukhumvit. About two years ago I was planning a one hundred day holiday. But life got in the way. As a stop-gap measure, I gave Sousa in the DR a go (and found it to be a huge disappointment), and then spent a week in Rio (which was awesome weather-wise, girl-wise and venue-wise) . But Thailand continued to call out to me. Pattaya in particular. So I'll be landing in Bangkok on the 21st and leaving 73 days later on April 4th. In between, I plan to hit Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and Cambodia, but the majority of my time will be spent in Thailand. Been twice, both times for a month: the second time I spent the whole time in Pattaya (search 28 Days for the blow-by-blow). Now the plan is to arrive Bangkok at 9:20 pm (after a 25 hour flight from Canada), hit Dr BJs by 11:00 pm, then troll either the Beer Garden or Thermae for some overnight freelance company. Next day, I am tempted to venture into Bangkok's Chinatown in search of a really raw experience (and would welcome any suggestions from members) . Or I might just content myself with a soapy massage, followed by some more late night trolling in the Beer Garden and / or Thermae. The day after that I am planning to hop a flight to Udon Thani for about a week (if I like it, or less, if Pattaya calls out to me). Any thoughts?
73 days in Asia at 62 years of age. It is going to be epic!
You just told Syggies that you didn't like his tone and asked if him he understands English but you were not going after him? Ahh I understand now?
If by "Syggies" you mean Syzygies, you are completely wrong. What I told him in the only post here I directed at him was I understood what he was saying. And the next thing I knew Smoothy came along and started insulting me.
Now the plan is to arrive Bangkok at 9:20 pm (after a 25 hour flight from Canada), hit Dr BJs by 11:00 pm, then troll either the Beer Garden or Thermae for some overnight freelance company. Next day, I am tempted to venture into Bangkok's Chinatown in search of a really raw experience (and would welcome any suggestions from members) . Or I might just content myself with a soapy massage, followed by some more late night trolling in the Beer Garden and / or Thermae. The day after that I am planning to hop a flight to Udon Thani for about a week (if I like it, or less, if Pattaya calls out to me). Any thoughts?Your plans are a little mystifying. You have a huge amount of time so no panic needed. Just gradually tick of all the places that should be tried out. We don't know what you are looking for in a girl, each guy wants something very different. So specify that in order to get better advice.
From the way your plans read, I guess you are looking for cheaper and older girls, not necessarily that pretty. Do I read you wrong? 11 PM is close to closing time for Dr. BJs. Now called Woodbar. If I was going there I would arrive 5 PM maybe. Soapies are a bad idea at 11 PM also. Late at night you might be better off with a Bar, freelancers on the street, or a disco, or the Thermae. Thermae is not highly recommended by me unless you are Asian.
Why Udon Thani? Up country mongering or some other reason?
I am not best person to give advice most likely, since I would not be bothering going to Chinatown and don't even go Biergarten much. I want a hot very pretty girl, not necessarily the cheapest.
Consider areas where there are lots of venues, e. G. Lots of Oily MPs in Soi 24 to 26 area of Sukhumvit, so you can move from place to place till you find a girl that really appeals. Perhaps you are not so fussy as me.
Member #2041
01-04-17, 02:20
If I was looking for inexpensive action after midnight in the Sukhumvit area I'd probably hit the parking lot of the Nana hotel for a freelancer, rather than the Biergarten or Thermae (unless I was Asian with 3000 baht to spend). Incidentally, the Biergarten may be permanently closed by the 3rd week in January. The only BJ bar I'd hit late at night would be S-O-L in Patpong - and even then only if I was hoping to pull a girl out for the night around their closing time.
If I was looking for inexpensive action after midnight in the Sukhumvit area I'd probably hit the parking lot of the Nana hotel for a freelancer, rather than the Biergarten or Thermae (unless I was Asian with 3000 baht to spend). Incidentally, the Biergarten may be permanently closed by the 3rd week in January. The only BJ bar I'd hit late at night would be S-O-L in Patpong - and even then only if I was hoping to pull a girl out for the night around their closing time.He mentioned over night so I doubt can get a Thermae girl overnight for as little as 3000 Baht, perhaps if she is desperate for a customer. A lot of the hot girls are in multiple ST mode, so can make much more than 3K per night, without having to be with customer till the morning.
One girl wanted to set a Farang surcharge for me, so could well have been wanting 3K for ST. I did not actually ask her about the price, after she said she charges higher for Farangs.
I suppose choose carefully a not so popular girl could work.
Fast Eddie 48
01-04-17, 02:54
He mentioned over night so I doubt can get a Thermae girl overnight for as little as 3000 Baht, perhaps if she is desperate for a customer. A lot of the hot girls are in multiple ST mode, so can make much more than 3K per night, without having to be with customer till the morning.
One girl wanted to set a Farang surcharge for me, so could well have been wanting 3K for ST. I did not actually ask her about the price, after she said she charges higher for Farangs.
I suppose choose carefully a not so popular girl could work.To Syzgies.
Most girl at Thermae only do ST for 2500 Bht the hot model type ask for 8000 bht for all night even the older average girl don't want to go all night, they know they can made more money doing ST with more customers.
Fast Eddie 48.
About 3 years ago I found myself in the Naughty Boy's Corner of After School supposedly about to get a double blowjob from a couple of girls. But that turned out to be so much not my scene I called it off before it really began. I've been in there a few other times and never seen anyone else pulled into the Naughty Boy's Corner.
Weird. I have heard and read about all this public sex supposedly going on in this or that bar over the years, read reports of guys getting blown while sitting at the bar in Kangaroo Bar or walking past some guy getting blown at the bar and all that, even current reports of such a thing happening. Yet I have not personally seen anything like that happening other than the two recent occasions mentioned above. Actually, in terms of a sexual act that could be fully seen by me, only the two girls getting their pussies licked at Windmill Bar qualified since the guy in Foxzee Bar was pulled down behind the bar and nobody other than him and the girls involved could see what was going on.Thanks guys for the recent posts re; debauchery and raunchy goings on. I posted a question a few weeks back about where to find this kind of thing for the sicker minded mongers among us and got nary a response. I guess it is because it hardly exists anymore.
Member #2041
01-04-17, 03:11
Thanks guys for the recent posts re; debauchery and raunchy goings on. I posted a question a few weeks back about where to find this kind of thing for the sicker minded mongers among us and got nary a response. I guess it is because it hardly exists anymore.I will say this regarding public debauchery: If it doesn't still happen in Star Of Light, it probably doesn't happen in anywhere in Bangkok anymore. One of the venues on Soi 6 in Pattaya would possibly be a different story.
Now the plan is to arrive Bangkok at 9:20 pm (after a 25 hour flight from Canada), hit Dr BJs by 11:00 pm, then troll either the Beer Garden or Thermae for some overnight freelance company.I don't see anything amiss with that plan, frankly. Although I might check out Kasalong Bar, L0lita's (both just off Soi 8, across Sukhumvit from where Wood Bar!, formerly Dr. BJ's Salon, is located) or Som's Haven just off Soi 14 before settling on Wood Bar! I have heard Wood Bar! is running short of girls to choose from these days. All of those bars are open until 1 AM so you'd have time to swing by each and choose a girl to your liking unless you were planning to spend longer than 90 minutes or so with a lady there. Overnight company can be had at Beer Garden and Thermae just about any time of the evening. And after Midnight-1AM, it is likely even easier to swing.
Next day, I am tempted to venture into Bangkok's Chinatown in search of a really raw experience (and would welcome any suggestions from members) . Raw? Hmm. Like the terms "GFE" and "PSE", a specific definition of exactly what you mean by "raw" might be useful.
Crocodilexp
01-04-17, 05:05
Thermae girl... I did not actually ask her about the price, after she said she charges higher for Farangs.To me, that screems inept business and interpersonal skills. She can charge whatever she wants, but staying "I'll charge you more because your race disgusts me" is not a way to get a customer or start off on a good note.
It's different when a papasan says it at a soapy place, where the Farang charge is imposed by the establishment, not so personal.
To me, that screems inept business and interpersonal skills. She can charge whatever she wants, but staying "I'll charge you more because your race disgusts me" is not a way to get a customer or start off on a good note.Does not quite imply that my race disgusts her. If so she would do me under any circumstances. However to say "I can do Farangs but have to charge higher amount" (translated from Thai loosely most likely) in a way that implies nuisance value or difficulty, kills off chemistry quite quickly and any hopes to get a GFE disappear immediately. One would assume it is a "cock tax" in terms of expecting to waste more time and tolerate longer fucking duration for Farangs perhaps, which would be a fair assessment of me, being a slow to cum guy. She might expect a pounding which would not be the case for me.
Sure I have tolerated Farang surcharge of 500 or so in Soapies before since not set by the girl.
I don't see anything amiss with that plan, frankly. Although I might check out Kasalong Bar, L0lita's (both just off Soi 8, across Sukhumvit from where Wood Bar!, formerly Dr. BJ's Salon, is located) or Som's Haven just off Soi 14 before settling on Wood Bar! I have heard Wood Bar! is running short of girls to choose from these days. All of those bars are open until 1 AM so you'd have time to swing by each and choose a girl to your liking unless you were planning to spend longer than 90 minutes or so with a lady there. Overnight company can be had at Beer Garden and Thermae just about any time of the evening. And after Midnight-1AM, it is likely even easier to swing.
Raw? Hmm. Like the terms "GFE" and "PSE", a specific definition of exactly what you mean by "raw" might be useful.I will not touch the "raw" bit for fear of being a tangent topic. LOL
Thanks for the correction. I should have realised BJ joints are officially "bars" and not MPs, and therefore stay open past midnight. I was not aware. The web says that Wood Bar is actually open till 2 AM. Some of the other BJ bars may close at 1 AM.
So okay Have a look at 11 PM, but always be prepared to move around and look at several venues, is good advice, especially in line up is very limited.
I am always thinking that any popular girls will be too tired by that time of night.
I have found the Jakarta thread to be a very informative place populated by a pretty good bunch of very knowlegeable guys. I still consider myself a relative newcomer to Jakarta. My next visit will be only my 4th in as many years and I am still learning my way around that large megalopolis. But I have always been treated very well over in the Jakarta forum and the resident BM's there have been very friendly and have freely given me a hell of a lot of usefull information. Hopefully I have paid it forward in some small way with my own Jakarta trip reports. So IMHO, the Jakarta forum is one of the best on the ISG. Case closed. End of story.I've always enjoyed your posts. You seem to enjoy entertainment similar to what I like myself.
Wolvenvacht
01-04-17, 08:35
The International standard is that you do not have to declare prescription drugs for personal use but some countries, apparently like Thailand, get squirrely about psychotropic drugs. In the latter case, I would carry the prescription or keep them in the container with the doctor's name and your name on it. In the case of all other drugs for personal use, there is no need to declare.There are international conventions on drugs that have lists of the drugs that needs to be declared. For most psychotropic drugs the standard is actually that they must be declared at every border crossing. Whether they are prescribed, you have a prescription with you and they are for your personal use, is of no consequence in respect of your duty to declare them and do the custom's paperwork.
RyeHumor63
01-04-17, 11:04
Hello fellow mongers,
I am going to spend 2 days or so in Bangkok shortly. Usually when I have these short trips I will take with me about US $750 for any type of "experience" I want to appreciate. Given this sort of budget, and the fact that I am interested in quality over quantity, and want to "share fun times" with Thai ladies in the 21-26 yr age range, can I get some of the top recommendations. Ideally, I would.
1) partake in an exceptional 3 some experience, possibly involving a nuru or soapy massage. I did one of these when I was down in Phuket a number of years ago in a fish tank experience and the experience which got very messy still lingers.
2) entertain a top Thai or Vietnamese escort. I'm not bothered the best way I can find one of these, and if I could locate them without going through an agency or soochi that would be ideal, as I know then the girls getting my money.
3) like to do something a bit "out there". I remember trying no hands when it started a very long time ago and it was very different (and it appears much more sexual) then now, so if any one has ideas about some new types of male oriented experiences.
In any case, I am not looking for cheap thrills, nor to sit around go-go clubs or try to figure out how to get a hot deal "through line or whatsapp".
Suggestions welcome, need them soon, as leaving Friday. Probably staying in the W / Conrad etc.
WildBillLewis
01-04-17, 12:25
Consider areas where there are lots of venues, e.g. Lots of Oily MPs in Soi 24 to 26 area of Sukhumvit, so you can move from place to place till you find a girl that really appeals.I appreciate the advice regarding the Soi 24 to Soi 26 area. I will definitely check it out. I am looking for a soft landing on my first night back in Bangkok. I'll be getting off the plane at 9:20 PM and expect to be downtown by 11:00 PM or so, and I'd like to spend that first night with a sweet young thing of some sort. Having been to Bangkok before, I know that there are many ways to accomplish that mission.
Member #4591
01-05-17, 08:47
Hello fellow mongers,
I am going to spend 2 days or so in Bangkok shortly. Usually when I have these short trips I will take with me about US $750 for any type of "experience" I want to appreciate. Given this sort of budget, and the fact that I am interested in quality over quantity, and want to "share fun times" with Thai ladies in the 21-26 yr age range, can I get some of the top recommendations. Ideally, I would.
1) partake in an exceptional 3 some experience, possibly involving a nuru or soapy massage. I did one of these when I was down in Phuket a number of years ago in a fish tank experience and the experience which got very messy still lingers.
2) entertain a top Thai or Vietnamese escort. I'm not bothered the best way I can find one of these, and if I could locate them without going through an agency or soochi that would be ideal, as I know then the girls getting my money.
3) like to do something a bit "out there". I remember trying no hands when it started a very long time ago and it was very different (and it appears much more sexual) then now, so if any one has ideas about some new types of male oriented experiences.
In any case, I am not looking for cheap thrills, nor to sit around go-go clubs or try to figure out how to get a hot deal "through line or whatsapp".
Suggestions welcome, need them soon, as leaving Friday. Probably staying in the W / Conrad etc.Why would you not read the forum? I will try and help a little but it's against my better judgement. For high end girls with no effort to find as you so eloquently put it are impossible. There are high end escorts on We Chat but be careful of scams. There are some really high end soapy massage girls that also fit the bill. Then check out Mixx and The Hyatt for other options. You could also check out some G clubs. By the way, your 750 dollar budget for 2 days of mongering is really not that much if you want to deal with the high end girls. Don't think you are going to be perceived as meter money bags with 30,000 baht. I'm also not going to hold your hand and tell you the names of all the G clubs, soapy massages and so on. RTFF.
RyeHumor63
01-05-17, 11:26
Why would you not read the forum? I will try and help a little but it's against my better judgement. For high end girls with no effort to find as you so eloquently put it are impossible. There are high end escorts on We Chat but be careful of scams. There are some really high end soapy massage girls that also fit the bill. Then check out Mixx and The Hyatt for other options. You could also check out some G clubs. By the way, your 750 dollar budget for 2 days of mongering is really not that much if you want to deal with the high end girls. Don't think you are going to be perceived as meter money bags with 30,000 baht. I'm also not going to hold your hand and tell you the names of all the G clubs, soapy massages and so on. RTFF.Thanks for the information. I have done quite a bit of research and think I have a good idea on where I am going to try for both Nuru and Soapy massages, and yes, recognize that I might need to spend a bit more too although I haven't seen anyone out there quoting more than 10,000/12,000 bhat so far for 2 hours, and given I will probably only manage 3 or max 4 experiences in the time I have, I am pretty sure I can manage. I have read lots and lots of the post too for additional information, and thus was really looking to find out if there were any new things off the beaten track so to speak. In any case, I will report back as I do in every country I visit (5 on ISG) so far and let everyone know honestly what I found.
There are international conventions on drugs that have lists of the drugs that needs to be declared. For most psychotropic drugs the standard is actually that they must be declared at every border crossing. Whether they are prescribed, you have a prescription with you and they are for your personal use, is of no consequence in respect of your duty to declare them and do the custom's paperwork.Actually Thailand is worse than that. In theory, you also need to have an import licence in advance to take in the class of drugs such as Diazepam, according to the Psychotropic Substances Act 1975. In practice, most tourists don't know about that and just walk through the green channel (which is a declaration that they have noting to declare). If someone wanted to be super careful, they could just ask the customs officer and show their prescription and in doing so they have declared it. When customs see that the medication is for personal use, they just wave the tourist on. Therefore, even though in theory you need an import licence, in practice you don't if you declare it but you could also find that the customs officer takes it from you. Welcome to the Land of Smiles.
Roaming Viking
01-05-17, 18:44
So I am back in Bangcock and made a beeline to Kasalong and L* for a some well-deserved relaxation. BUT it turns out the providers were either too average looking or on the rag. "Me period. No can," the pretty ones said in both venues when I inquired about extras. How can that be? Finally settled for NAN in Kasalong and she sucked like a champ. I was happy and gave her a full load (and a nice tip). Had been saving up for this all day long and didn't last for more than ten minutes or so.
Does anyone know if NINJA Is a back at Snow White??
Member #4591
01-05-17, 19:11
So I am back in Bangcock and made a beeline to Kasalong and L* for a some well-deserved relaxation. BUT it turns out the providers were either too average looking or on the rag. "Me period. No can," the pretty ones said in both venues when I inquired about extras. How can that be? Finally settled for NAN in Kasalong and she sucked like a champ. I was happy and gave her a full load (and a nice tip). Had been saving up for this all day long and didn't last for more than ten minutes or so.
Does anyone know if NINJA Is a back at Snow White??
After I first introduced Ninja on ISG she sure has become popular. Everyone is waiting for her return after New Years and her graduation. She's going to be a very busy girl.
While in BKK I have seen a lot of "karaoke" establishments, but never ventured in due to tone deafness. I remember one gal telling me that before she worked at Mango that she had worked at a couple of karaoke joints near Soi 11. For someone who had just started at Mango, her skills were 10+. I assumed she honed her skills at her karaoke employment, but never had the chance to explore that neck of the woods, so to speak. Anyone care to enlighten us on these establishments and give us some recommendations? Thanks.
As a great fan of rimming and out of respect for the ladies who perform this service on me, I want my pubic hair trimmed and all fur from my hairy bum removed.
Some 10 years ago, there was a barber shop on Soi 15, where some ladies offered such services in the course of their very extensive 'barber-massage-fuck' offering, but these have presumably long retired.
Could anyone recommend a venue in BKK to have one's bum hair removed, possibly with a massage and test drive to follow?
As a great fan of rimming and out of respect for the ladies who perform this service on me, I want my pubic hair trimmed and all fur from my hairy bum removed.
Some 10 years ago, there was a barber shop on Soi 15, where some ladies offered such services in the course of their very extensive 'barber-massage-fuck' offering, but these have presumably long retired.
Could anyone recommend a venue in BKK to have one's bum hair removed, possibly with a massage and test drive to follow?Go to Nana Hotel, there is a massage and barber shop there, old style, but efficient.
Ask for Tai, she is an appr 50 yo lady who will "shave you down" - let her access your jewels with confidence, she will not damage them and she knows her job.
Don't expect anything hunky Panky, she might suggest a massage with another lady of the place and being a sort of "legitimate" place, nothing more than a HJ is in the menu, coming to an expensive demand of 1000 with access to the upper part of her body.
For that amount you can have a SYT at 1000 plus ST room, if you really fancy a release, by a few meters from the hotel snd check what is on offer at the nana car park.
Shaving price sim 300+500 if I we'll remember, but if you give her 1000 yield make her day. Hand over the mineyntomher snd she will sort it out with the papasan.
Thanks for the tip BM. I'll try it.
It would seems, that barber ladies for 'down under' tend to be past retirement age, which only serves to hone their skills.
Go to Nana Hotel, there is a massage and barber shop there, old style, but efficient.
Ask for Tai, she is an appr 50 yo lady who will "shave you down" - let her access your jewels with confidence, she will not damage them and she knows her job.
Don't expect anything hunky Panky, she might suggest a massage with another lady of the place and being a sort of "legitimate" place, nothing more than a HJ is in the menu, coming to an expensive demand of 1000 with access to the upper part of her body.
For that amount you can have a SYT at 1000 plus ST room, if you really fancy a release, by a few meters from the hotel snd check what is on offer at the nana car park.
Shaving price sim 300+500 if I we'll remember, but if you give her 1000 yield make her day. Hand over the mineyntomher snd she will sort it out with the papasan.
Go to Nana Hotel, there is a massage and barber shop there, old style, but efficient.
Ask for Tai, she is an appr 50 yo lady who will "shave you down" - let her access your jewels with confidence, she will not damage them and she knows her job.I am curious about balls shaving. My balls are covered in little bumps being sebaceous glands that hairs grow out of, and presumably this is very normal. Pic supplied. Not me. LOL.
The very numerous bumps meant that any attempt to shave the balls resulted in numerous nicks and bleeding from everywhere. So I wonder how shaving would be at all possible.
I have used depilation creams like Veet instead, far more successfully, however the first few days after hair removal is fairly prickly.
Hair on balls and dick is incredibly annoying. Why do we have this? LOL. Have not got a very hairy chest so why the nuisance of hairy balls? If we want girls to lick us, we should get rid of the hair to make it a lot easier for them to do it and to be confident we are properly cleaned.
Lots of hair is a big turnoff for me, however accepted one girl with hairy untrimmed bush, purely because her face was cute and tits absolutely magnificent at 18. LOL
I am curious about balls shaving. My balls are covered in little bumps being sebaceous glands that hairs grow out of, and presumably this is very normal. Pic supplied. Not me. LOL.
The very numerous bumps meant that any attempt to shave the balls resulted in numerous nicks and bleeding from everywhere. So I wonder how shaving would be at all possible.
I have used depilation creams like Veet instead, far more successfully, however the first few days after hair removal is fairly prickly.
Hair on balls and dick is incredibly annoying. Why do we have this? LOL. Have not got a very hairy chest so why the nuisance of hairy balls? If we want girls to lick us, we should get rid of the hair to make it a lot easier for them to do it and to be confident we are properly cleaned.
Lots of hair is a big turnoff for me, however accepted one girl with hairy untrimmed bush, purely because her face was cute and tits absolutely magnificent at 18. LOLHi Syz, Been shaving most of my pubic region, balls, taint, and a-hole since about 1994. Also shave my chest and lower back areas. In Thailand I have been using a Gillette Blue disposable razor. I just soap up the area and go to town. It takes about 5 min or less in the shower. I do this every other day.
Hi Syz, Been shaving most of my pubic region, balls, taint, and a-hole since about 1994. Also shave my chest and lower back areas. In Thailand I have been using a Gillette Blue disposable razor. I just soap up the area and go to town. It takes about 5 min or less in the shower. I do this every other day. Does this mean you don't have all these tiny bumps that get nicked so easily? I mean your answer did not clear up the mystery for me. Is it something to do with the area getting used to being shaved? Did you get a lot of nicks initially? I am sure I tried a Gillette blue or similar.
I can shave my face, but the face skin is completely different quality (far smoother). if I had pimples on the face, they could get nicked easily too. But thousands of bumps sticking out on the balls is just inviting the tops of the bumps to be chopped off.
Never heard of "taint" before. I suppose these things are not discussed much. LOL I would have no clue if Thai language has any word for this, so I would have to make a phrase to describe it.
Found this joke on Urban Dic:
"Q: Hey lady, do you know why the piece of skin between your vagina and anus is called a taint?
A: Because it taint a pussy, and it taint an asshole. "
P.S. A few years back, one Thai girl asked me to get rid of underarm hair as well. So I did and continue to do so periodically. It is easier to keep pristine underarms with no odour (or as little as possible) if do not have significant amounts of hair there. I check my underarms periodically to see how I am going, especially after any activity. Shirts can pick up odour too. Deodorant helps delay underarm problems. Thais are very sensitive to body odours, whether mouth, tongue, underarms, dick foreskin, ass. So I am always cleaning all areas very carefully before going mongering and again before sex. It is hard to overdo it. Don't kid yourself guys that one shower per day is enough.
For some guys, a thorough underarm cleaning is not going last much more than one hour, before the odoriferous oils start coming out.
Does this mean you don't have all these tiny bumps that get nicked so easily? I mean your answer did not clear up the mystery for me. Is it something to do with the area getting used to being shaved? Did you get a lot of nicks initially? I am sure I tried a Gillette blue or similar.
I can shave my face, but the face skin is completely different quality (far smoother). if I had pimples on the face, they could get nicked easily too. But thousands of bumps sticking out on the balls is just inviting the tops of the bumps to be chopped off.
Never heard of "taint" before. I suppose these things are not discussed much. LOL I would have no clue if Thai language has any word for this, so I would have to make a phrase to describe it.
Found this joke on Urban Dic:
"Q: Hey lady, do you know why the piece of skin between your vagina and anus is called a taint?
A: Because it taint a pussy, and it taint an asshole. "
P.S. A few years back, one Thai girl asked me to get rid of underarm hair as well. So I did and continue to do so periodically. It is easier to keep pristine underarms with no odour (or as little as possible) if do not have significant amounts of hair there. I check my underarms periodically to see how I am going, especially after any activity. Shirts can pick up odour too. Deodorant helps delay underarm problems. Thais are very sensitive to body odours, whether mouth, tongue, underarms, dick foreskin, ass. So I am always cleaning all areas very carefully before going mongering and again before sex. It is hard to overdo it. Don't kid yourself guys that one shower per day is enough.
For some guys, a thorough underarm cleaning is not going last much more than one hour, before the odoriferous oils start coming out.Hey, you guys haven't suffered for your art and craft until you have gone through a half dozen laser light hair removal sessions on your balls, taint and asshole! LOL. I did that many years ago when those laser hair removal salons were somewhat new. Haven't had a follow up session in a decade or more so don't know what the latest technological advances are but I can assure you each zap on the 1/4 inch or so area of the skin with the old laser light instruments felt like a smack with a combination white hot fire brand and cattle prod! Not fun. Thank god after the second session of 5-6, they introduced a numbing cream you spread over the region, let it settle in for about 30 minutes and then proceed without any pain at all.
BTW, pubic and underarm areas are kind of tough to rid the hair totally and forever this way, or at least that was the result in the past. So it still requires a quick swipe with a Gillette razor in the shower every few days or so. But it comes in much less, tinier and finer than the bush that grew there before.
Does this mean you don't have all these tiny bumps that get nicked so easily? I mean your answer did not clear up the mystery for me. Is it something to do with the area getting used to being shaved? Did you get a lot of nicks initially? I am sure I tried a Gillette blue or similar.
I can shave my face, but the face skin is completely different quality (far smoother). if I had pimples on the face, they could get nicked easily too. But thousands of bumps sticking out on the balls is just inviting the tops of the bumps to be chopped off.
Never heard of "taint" before. I suppose these things are not discussed much. LOL I would have no clue if Thai language has any word for this, so I would have to make a phrase to describe it.
Found this joke on Urban Dic:
"Q: Hey lady, do you know why the piece of skin between your vagina and anus is called a taint?
A: Because it taint a pussy, and it taint an asshole. "
P.S. A few years back, one Thai girl asked me to get rid of underarm hair as well. So I did and continue to do so periodically. It is easier to keep pristine underarms with no odour (or as little as possible) if do not have significant amounts of hair there. I check my underarms periodically to see how I am going, especially after any activity. Shirts can pick up odour too. Deodorant helps delay underarm problems. Thais are very sensitive to body odours, whether mouth, tongue, underarms, dick foreskin, ass. So I am always cleaning all areas very carefully before going mongering and again before sex. It is hard to overdo it. Don't kid yourself guys that one shower per day is enough.
For some guys, a thorough underarm cleaning is not going last much more than one hour, before the odoriferous oils start coming out.I keep my underarms trimmed very closely as well. Yes, I have some bumps on my sack, think we all do, but I rarely nick myself and never get razor burn. Trick is little to no pressure with the razor. Also, yes, it gets used to being shaved and the skin toughens a bit I think.
Roaming Viking
01-07-17, 07:16
I went out last night but didn't make it beyond the Nana carpark, where I met Tukta, 31 years old, with a very skinny frame. Looked much younger. PM me for number. At first she wanted 1500 (seems like standard price for the prettier FLs, the 1000 baht girls are rare and not that hot in my opinion) but we quickly settled for 1200. Boy was she ever good. I think I warmed her up with my tongue. At any rate she really got into it. We had a good romp for a half hour or so. But just as I was about to empty myself in her mouth she pulled away. Talk about predicting the exact second when I was going to come. But she jacked me off nice and good all over her tiny little firm titties. I had been saving up for a day or two.
BUT hours later I was awoken by acute diarrhea and violent vomiting. Can it be her pussy, I wonder. Anyone had a similar experience?? Two days later when I just couldn't get out of bed I am better but still feel shaken by the experience. This year I have had some health problems and just wonder if I can keep it up for much longer. No pun intended. I am leaving for a few days tomorrow and then we'll see. My balinitis --red dots on glans--keep reappearing after sex despite my miracle cream. I am 71. Do you it is time to retire from this game? The Nana hotel is full of geezers my age but they just sit around in the lobby and talk all day long. Never see them with a lady. Now, I look a lot younger and still exercise vigorously but still. On this trip I am suddenly feeling my age. The punters in bars and on the street all are a lot younger. I think what I going to do is just chill for a week or so. I winter here so I have time on my side. Then we'll see about next year.
I went out last night but didn't make it beyond the Nana carpark, where I met Tukta, 31 years old, with a very skinny frame. Looked much younger. PM me for number. At first she wanted 1500 (seems like standard price for the prettier FLs, the 1000 baht girls are rare and not that hot in my opinion) but we quickly settled for 1200. Boy was she ever good. I think I warmed her up with my tongue. At any rate she really got into it. We had a good romp for a half hour or so. But just as I was about to empty myself in her mouth she pulled away. Talk about predicting the exact second when I was going to come. But she jacked me off nice and good all over her tiny little firm titties. I had been saving up for a day or two.
BUT hours later I was awoken by acute diarrhea and violent vomiting. Can it be her pussy, I wonder. Anyone had a similar experience?? Two days later when I just couldn't get out of bed I am better but still feel shaken by the experience. This year I have had some health problems and just wonder if I can keep it up for much longer. No pun intended. I am leaving for a few days tomorrow and then we'll see. My balinitis --red dots on glans--keep reappearing after sex despite my miracle cream. I am 71. Do you it is time to retire from this game? The Nana hotel is full of geezers my age but they just sit around in the lobby and talk all day long. Never see them with a lady. Now, I look a lot younger and still exercise vigorously but still. On this trip I am suddenly feeling my age. The punters in bars and on the street all are a lot younger. I think what I going to do is just chill for a week or so. I winter here so I have time on my side. Then we'll see about next year.With balanitis and especially at your age, you need to get checked that you are not diabetic / prediabetic.
It is unlikely that you got your acute diarrhoea from going down on this girl as it take more than a few hours (2 or 3 hours) for what you ingest to go through your system. Also, it would depend on what meds you are on as anything that might suppress your stomach acids may allow infectious material to gain easier access to your gut.
Go to a doctor. If you can afford 1300 Baht for the girl, you can afford the doctor's fee and meds. And all those old geezers you see. They take their meds and go to the doctor when they get odd symptoms rather than asking ISG for advice. After all, I don't ask my doctor for pointers as to where to go mongering!
But just as I was about to empty myself in her mouth she pulled away. Talk about predicting the exact second when I was going to come. But she jacked me off nice and good all over her tiny little firm titties. I had been saving up for a day or two.
BUT hours later I was awoken by acute diarrhea and violent vomiting. Can it be her pussy, I wonder. Anyone had a similar experience?? Two days later when I just couldn't get out of bed I am better but still feel shaken by the experience. This year I have had some health problems and just wonder if I can keep it up for much longer.I have found that expert experienced girls know exactly the moment we are about to cum. This is not too unusual. A girl doing me BBFS would pull it out so I did not cum inside her just a fraction of a second before I would have pulled out myself. Like she knew it was coming with no doubt, and did not trust me to pull it out myself for certain. She believed she probably cannot get pregnant but just wanted to be extra cautious (I know the withdrawal method is not exceptionally reliable LOL).
On the other topic, I think it is very unlikely you got sick due to the sex. More likely this was just a coincidence. Could be something you ate, drank, or even medications. I know a lot about thrush. My ex-wife had it a lot. However don't know about Balanitus.
Maybe I will slow down a bit at seventy, who knows.
Roaming Viking
01-07-17, 09:04
Thanks for your kind words. I feel better and am in a better mood already. But I plan on taking it easy for a couple of days all the same. I normally lick and munch a lot but this is the first time I have had any kind of post-traumatic stress disorder. As for the balintis, that's what the doc called it, it's these red spots on your glans. They come and go, but I got a anti-biotic cream that works miracles. The problem is it comes back? Stay safe and enjoy.
I have found that expert experienced girls know exactly the moment we are about to cum. This is not too unusual. A girl doing me BBFS would pull it out so I did not cum inside her just a fraction of a second before I would have pulled out myself. Like she knew it was coming with no doubt, and did not trust me to pull it out myself for certain. She believed she probably cannot get pregnant but just wanted to be extra cautious (I know the withdrawal method is not exceptionally reliable LOL).
On the other topic, I think it is very unlikely you got sick due to the sex. More likely this was just a coincidence. Could be something you ate, drank, or even medications. I know a lot about thrush. My ex-wife had it a lot. However don't know about Balanitus.
Maybe I will slow down a bit at seventy, who knows.
Thanks for your kind words. I feel better and am in a better mood already. But I plan on taking it easy for a couple of days all the same. I normally lick and munch a lot but this is the first time I have had any kind of post-traumatic stress disorder. What trauma? Are you making a joke here? I don't think being sick can be classified as a trauma.
I find that being sick, can greatly upset my sexual powers, whether it is stomach, diarrhea, head aches, or even a bad cough. What is worse, I found cough medicine caused my dick to be limp, even worse than drinking too much alcohol. Cough medicine takes away feeling in throat and in the dick as well. LOL Good to take some extra rest.
A subsequent thought. Gastro-enteritis could be passed on from a girl to guy during an encounter. They do talk about washing hands thoroughly after touching things and before eating. However I still think it is not the most likely. I don't recall ever being sick like this attributable to a girl. Much more likely to catch a flu or cold virus, or a common STD.
I have had really bad stomach in Thailand usually associated with river farm prawns, and one case of meat that had gone of in an Italian restaurant (Lamb in truffle sauce) caused food poisoning, and two cases of bad seaweed salad (Japanese style) causing Diarrhea . Especially do not eat raw prawns in Thailand. Yes raw prawns marinated in lime juice or fish sauce are available. Bad results after that at Tawan Daeng. So all these types of problems are more likely in Thailand than back home. Much more likely than getting something from a girl. I eat plenty of street stall food with no problems (omitting risky large prawns).
Wolvenvacht
01-07-17, 10:25
I am curious about balls shaving. My balls are covered in little bumps being sebaceous glands that hairs grow out of, and presumably this is very normal. Pic supplied. Not me. LOL.
The very numerous bumps meant that any attempt to shave the balls resulted in numerous nicks and bleeding from everywhere. So I wonder how shaving would be at all possible.I have the same little bumps. I think that is quite the standard.
i use a cheap two blade disposable rasor (the same I use for my face and I can use it for about two weeks.) Just stretch out the skin and apply very light touch. And use a good quality shaving cream. After shaving I apply some alum stone to the shaved parts (https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Alum_products_and_utilities#/media/File%3ACaquisd.JPG) to close any small nicks and tighten the skin. Then some nivea creamy aftershave and I'm smooth as a baby's bottom.
I have used depilation creams like Veet instead, far more successfully, however the first few days after hair removal is fairly prickly.Very bad idea. It irritates my skin and smells too bad.
Hair on balls and dick is incredibly annoying. Why do we have this? LOL. Have not got a very hairy chest so why the nuisance of hairy balls? If we want girls to lick us, we should get rid of the hair to make it a lot easier for them to do it and to be confident we are properly cleaned.
Lots of hair is a big turnoff for me, however accepted one girl with hairy untrimmed bush, purely because her face was cute and tits absolutely magnificent at 18. LOLI'm very hairy and that doesn't cease to amaze the Thai girls.
Crocodilexp
01-07-17, 11:38
BUT hours later I was awoken by acute diarrhea and violent vomiting. Can it be her pussy, I wonder. Anyone had a similar experience?? Two days later when I just couldn't get out of bed I am better but still feel shaken by the experience. This year I have had some health problems and just wonder if I can keep it up for much longer.It's more likely to be food poisoning or heat stroke rather than pussy. STDs generally don't show up in such immediate and acute ways. I had sore throat countless times from licking pussy (sometimes a very persistent and annoying variety), but never such immediate, violent symptoms.
Better see a good doctor, random strangers on the internet are not so helpful.
You mean you shave your a-hole blind, without seeing what you are doing?
Then be thankful for the invention of Gillette safety razors!
Why not ask one's GF to perform this service?
Hi Syz, Been shaving most of my pubic region, balls, taint, and a-hole since about 1994. Also shave my chest and lower back areas. In Thailand I have been using a Gillette Blue disposable razor. I just soap up the area and go to town. It takes about 5 min or less in the shower. I do this every other day.
You mean you shave your a-hole blind, without seeing what you are doing?
Then be thankful for the invention of Gillette safety razors!
Why not ask one's GF to perform this service?I certainly do. No problem either. I would not try it with my DE razor. Think the GF would find it a chore every other day. I can shave my chest, lower back, and nether regions in less than 5 min.
Does this mean you don't have all these tiny bumps that get nicked so easily? I mean your answer did not clear up the mystery for me. Is it something to do with the area getting used to being shaved? Did you get a lot of nicks initially? I am sure I tried a Gillette blue or similar.
I can shave my face, but the face skin is completely different quality (far smoother). if I had pimples on the face, they could get nicked easily too. But thousands of bumps sticking out on the balls is just inviting the tops of the bumps to be chopped off.
Never heard of "taint" before. I suppose these things are not discussed much. LOL I would have no clue if Thai language has any word for this, so I would have to make a phrase to describe it.
Found this joke on Urban Dic:
"Q: Hey lady, do you know why the piece of skin between your vagina and anus is called a taint?
A: Because it taint a pussy, and it taint an asshole. "
P.S. A few years back, one Thai girl asked me to get rid of underarm hair as well. So I did and continue to do so periodically. It is easier to keep pristine underarms with no odour (or as little as possible) if do not have significant amounts of hair there. I check my underarms periodically to see how I am going, especially after any activity. Shirts can pick up odour too. Deodorant helps delay underarm problems. Thais are very sensitive to body odours, whether mouth, tongue, underarms, dick foreskin, ass. So I am always cleaning all areas very carefully before going mongering and again before sex. It is hard to overdo it. Don't kid yourself guys that one shower per day is enough.
For some guys, a thorough underarm cleaning is not going last much more than one hour, before the odoriferous oils start coming out.Body odour has nothing to do with with armpit hair.
I don't think anyone has smooth skin down so the tiny bumps are normal. I never got a problem. And she does a sort of dry shaving.
As I said, approach the matter with confidence, she knows her job and does a great job all over the area.
Member #4591
01-07-17, 14:22
So anyways..........
How about those Hooters girls? Last time I went to Hooters on Soi 4, the food was great but the hooters girls were lacking in beauty and sexiness. Maybe one out of the ten were hot. I then moved over and tried the Hilary bars. Sometimes you can find a diamond in the ruff. I met a young lady only 2 weeks in the biz. I was her first bar fine. 350 Baht to the bar and off we went. Her name was Noi. We headed over to climax on Soi 11. I love to take my lady for the evening to listen to the music and dance. She was so happy to be treated nice that the next morning she almost forgot to take the money I left beside her purse. Really she was a great GFE with multiple positions. I don't know what is is with me but when I'm with a go go or freelance girl I always skip the BJ but when I go for a massage at an oily, it's the first thing on my mind, strange. She lines me everyday now. Anyways, don't count out the Hillary bars when looking for a sweet little thing.
How about those Hooters girls? Last time I went to Hooters on Soi 4, the food was great but the hooters girls were lacking in beauty and sexiness.The hamburger at that Hooters is the best burger I have ever had in all of Asia.
As far as the waitresses, ask for Natcha. She's a charmer.
Member #4698
01-07-17, 18:18
The hamburger at that Hooters is the best burger I have ever had in all of Asia.
Them's fighting words, Smoothy. I prefer to eat the local cuisine most of the time unless I am in the PI. 555. My favorite burger in all of Asia is served at Apartment 1b in Makati. Outstanding cheeseburgers and hand cut fries! Then the cheeseburger at the Makati Fairmont is very good as well, although it is probably not fair to include 5 * hotel restaurants in this burger comparison.
Over in Jakarta, Social House in the Grand Indonesia Mall has a very good Wagyu Beef Burger, even though I usually go for their Korean ribs when I am there.
And last, but not least, BKK has many quality burger restaurants. Again, I prefer to eat Thai most of the time, but when I want something western, Oskars Bistro hits the spot for me as well as the really 1st rate Wagyu Burger at El Gaucho Argentinian Steakhouse.
I have never eaten at a Hooters even though there is one about 5 minutes from my house in the Florida. I wonder (not) how the south Florida girls stack up, pun intended, with the Soi 4 Hooter girls. Probably in terms of hooters it is no contest.
Member #2041
01-07-17, 18:25
I wonder how the south Florida girls stack up, pun intended, with the Soi 4 Hooter girls.$200 USD typical for short time, and lots of them are meth-heads.
Member #4698
01-07-17, 18:31
$200 USD typical for short time, and lots of them are meth-heads.You mean the south Florida Hooter girls offer short time? I did not know this! I guess I should head over to Hooters for lunch this afternoon and see who is available for take out. LOL.
Member #2041
01-07-17, 19:07
You mean the south Florida Hooter girls offer short time? I did not know this! I guess I should head over to Hooters for lunch this afternoon and see who is available for take out. LOL.I'm sure some do. You need to check backpage to find them.
http://southflorida.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/
Over in Jakarta, Social House in the Grand Indonesia Mall has a very good Wagyu Beef Burger.
the really 1st rate Wagyu Burger at El Gaucho Argentinian Steakhouse.
I have never eaten at a Hooters even though there is one about 5 minutes from my house in the Florida..Don't waste your time having a burger at the Hooters near you in Florida, the burger is not as good as the one at that Bangkok Hooters. The wings at the Bangkok Hooters are garbage (while the wings at Hooters in the US are awesome), but he burger is great. That's what was so shocking about it. The burgers at Hooters in the US are crap.
I've had the burger at social house and at the Argentine place outside Terminal 21. Both are fine, but I prefer the one at that BKK Hooters. I normally stick with the fish at Social House and steak at that Argentine place. (Although I'm not a big fan of either one of them for value for money.).
BATS in hotel Shangri-la has a very good burger and so does Chilis in Jakarta. I've never had a burger in Manila.
Since you prefer those Wagyu burgers (which are a different taste), you may not like it as much as I do. However, if you give that Hooters burger a shot some time in BKK, I bet you will like it. The only problem with it is it's too big so I can never finish one.
You mean the south Florida Hooter girls offer short time? I did not know this! I guess I should head over to Hooters for lunch this afternoon and see who is available for take out. LOL.Not likely. Those girls get fired for just dating the customers, let alone selling themselves on backpage. My sister worked at Hooters in the US for 5 years. I knew every girl there and while they liked to party, not one of them was a hooker. Hell, Jon Gruden worked at Hooters! That place is wholesome.
Member 2041: If you think the Hooters girls are easily had, try to get one at the Bangkok Hooters. Again, not likely.
Member #4698
01-07-17, 20:59
My sister worked at Hooters in the US for 5 years. I knew every girl there and while they liked to party, not one of them was a hooker. Hell, Jon Gruden worked at Hooters! That place is wholesome.
Member 2041: If you think the Hooters girls are easily had, try to get one at the Bangkok Hooters. Again, not likely.I am sorry if my sarcasm was misconstrued. I was just joking around comparing the size of hooters waitresses ta ta's across international boundaries assuming the American Hooter girls would win that contest by a long shot. I never thought Hooter's waitresses in either country were easy on the job, let alone prostitutes.
I have never been to Hooters USA because I just assumed the food was kind of ordinary, not that good and the marketing concept seemed a llttle silly and adolescent to me. I have never been to a Hard Rock Cafe for a similar reason. In my home town and in the same category of sit down, tavern type restaurants, there is the Ale House (very good inexpensive food), Duffy's Sports Grill (not bad either), and Brezzi (serving their own in-house beers). And then going more upscale and more expensive, there is J. Alexanders and Houstons. The best burger in my town is at the Capital Grill. So there has always been plenty of restaurants to choose from serving pretty much the same type of food at various price points. I just wish there was a decent Thai or Peruvian restaurant within 15 miles.
In BKK I always knew that the Hooter girl's were not available for take out. That fact and my preference to eat the local Thai cuisine all the time is the reason why I never checked out any Hooters restaurant in Thailand. I would rather get a drink across the street at Morning Night Bar or Hillarys where there is always the off chance of spotting a girl I like and being able to do something about it. It surprises me a liitle that you really like the Hooter's burgers there, but that's cool. One day I may give the Soi 4 place a try.
P.S. There was a Hooters in Makati, but that place did not last long.
Member #2041
01-07-17, 23:41
Not likely. Those girls get fired for just dating the customers, let alone selling themselves on backpage. My sister worked at Hooters in the US for 5 years. I knew every girl there and while they liked to party, not one of them was a hooker. Hell, Jon Gruden worked at Hooters! That place is wholesome.
Member 2041: If you think the Hooters girls are easily had, try to get one at the Bangkok Hooters. Again, not likely.I never said that you could pick the girls up as takeout from the restaurant. I said that if you perused backpage you could find South Florida escorts, and I would not be surprised if some of them also waitressed at Hooters.
I never said that you could pick the girls up as takeout from the restaurant. I said that if you perused backpage you could find South Florida escorts, and I would not be surprised if some of them also waitressed at Hooters.For sure there are South Florida escorts. I would be quite surprised if any of them are currently working at Hooters though.
The hamburger at that Hooters is the best burger I have ever had in all of Asia.
As far as the waitresses, ask for Natcha. She's a charmer.Some absolutely amazing burgers in BKK now. If you think Hooters is good you need to get to Daniel Thaiger, not the one on soi 11 which is over-priced, but the food truck that is parked on soi 30/1. Also Fattys Bar and Diner on Din Daeng Rd and Arno's Burgers and Beers on Narathiwat. Guarantee you will like all three more than Hooters. And all at a far better price.
Member #4591
01-08-17, 02:48
So let's try this again.
You know dating a Hooters girl can be very difficult and Bangkok has some great burgers...................
Oh wait, Friday night I went back to Soi 4 and it was action packed. Had a beer in every bar along the left side of Soi 4. Unfortunately, I was too late and any of the stunners were already gone. I then headed over to Climax and it was jammed as usual. I have a few usual girls I can always find in their if I want but last night they were already gone with customers. An interesting thing happened on the way out though. I was almost at the top of the Soi on Sukhumvit when I glanced behind me and saw a very hot girl but she was drunk and almost falling down. I turned around and picked her up off the ground. She was crying and mumbling about her friends leaving her, her customer going off with another man and so on. She was in no way in any state to go at it alone. I offered to buy her some food in one of the restaurants at the top of Soi, the one with the hotel attached to it. After finishing eating, I offered to take her home. She said ok. When the driver asked where to go, she said where do you stay, after I told her, she told the driver to go there. I was confused because no way in hell did I want this drunk girl at my place. Anyways we got back to my place and she passed out on the bed. About noon the next day we both woke up and she started kissing me. One thing lead to another and a great session was had. It turns out she works at Baccara and one of her customers ditched her even after paying the bar fine. After we finished she took a shower, got dressed, kissed me on the cheek, and left. I was stunned as she rushed out so quickly and never asked for even 1 Baht. I didn't even have time to get her digits. Love Thailand! It reminded me of the time a we chat girl used me as a late night booty call. You can read that post somewhere in this thread as well.
So a walk along Soi 11 late at night can produce many good results. I have often met ladies who were leaving one of the bars like Levels or Climax and always had good times. Give it a try.
So a walk along Soi 11 late at night can produce many good results. I have often met ladies who were leaving one of the bars like Levels or Climax and always had good times. Give it a try.You broke the golden rule: "Don't take a drunk girl". However nice it worked out way better than usual, because you could wait till she recovered. Reward for the good guy.
I can certainly identify with the problem of going into several places and finding nothing much, on occasions.
The Hotel with coffee shop attached near mouth of Soi 11 should be Grand Business Inn, as I think can eat there 24 hours, and I have. A budget Hotel (around 1300 Baht most likely) reasonable value, but has no pool and beds were a bit too hard for me, when I tried it years ago. Would not recommend ordering Farang food there. I recall a salad swimming in a lake of Mayo served to me and I don't even like Mayo. LOL So they have limited understanding of western food. I don't recall if their burgers were any good. :D
Member #4591
01-08-17, 10:41
I don't recall if their burgers were any good. :DYou couldn't resist, could you? LOL, good one on ya mate!😡😜
You broke the golden rule: "Don't take a drunk girl".Why is that? I prefer them to be at least a bit drunk. They are more willing to do whatever I like when that's the case.
So a walk along Soi 11 late at nightHow late is "late"? Aren't those places open until like 5 am? I work in the mornings, I don't stay out past 1 am.
Why is that? I prefer them to be at least a bit drunk. They are more willing to do whatever I like when that's the case.Yes a few leg opener drinks is very good for shy girls, but you have to be very careful to find out the girl's limit before she becomes sick, comatose, useless, etc. If she cannot stand, or walk, then she is too drunk. Some girls are at their best with 2 to 4 tequilas. Others are best when sober.
I take girls slightly inebriated, even to 8 tequilas if girl is experienced drinker and can hold it, but not to stage that I would call "drunk". If girl's speech becomes to slurred or makes no sense any more, I prefer to give her a miss.
I have experienced excessively shy bargirls, who became very raunchy when drunk, even slutty. When the change is too excessive, I am not sure I like it. I feel the girl may be likely to pass out any time soon. Other drunk girls become wild animals that are best avoided. "Aalawaat" (Arlawart) is the Thai word for girls running amok or going on a rampage, when drunk (or not). We have all met girls that "Aalawaat" I reckon. Bad news girls.
If you want to have a relationship with a Thai girl, get her drunk one time, just to see if any really ugly character aspects come to the surface. Girls may normally keep their evil side hidden. Same for guys. Some go really bad when drunk. You don't want a partner that becomes too aggressive or evil when drunk. Some time it may come out when sober as well.
Plenty of Thai girls found themselves living with violent drunks. How did they get stuck with those guys? Something went wrong during the selection and vetting process, most likely.
A suggested website for guys wanting to find out about what gogo bars are like:
http://www.barnewsbangkok.com/best-hands-on-gogo-bars.html
http://www.barnewsbangkok.com/soicowboy.html
Asian Rain
01-10-17, 15:39
On my way out of 7-11 to Asoke Place short time hotel, I spot a caramel brown SYT walking up Asoke from Soi Cowboy in the arms of an Asian punter. It was sprinkling rain so I just did a double take and thought what a nice package, looking a bit like Jane #4 from Crazy House. Slight pang of jealousy. Anyway, I go up to the lobby where my regular was dutifully waiting and proceeded to a good short time session. After parting with my short time squeeze, I was walking back up Asoke in the drizzle of rain (this time umbrella extended) near the Pullman hotel and spot the same girl walking in the opposite direction. As we neared, I gave her the look and sure enough the beaming smile confirmed it was Jane. Jane was keen to follow in my direction, but I was sapped of sperm, otherwise I would have taken her for a short time. Instead, like I did on a previous session, asked if she had a LINE. She mentioned she still has no phone, which was the case before, so I promised to meet her in CH next time and we parted ways.
Now knowing the popularity of Jane and her general earning power, it surprised me that she still has not gotten one of the key tools of trade. And I am skeptical as hell of bar girls with any stories. However, she had mentioned last time that she sends her money home. And coupled with the fact that she still dresses in quite "rural" basic fashion, I am of a tendency to believe that she is not really spending much on herself. Another mystery case of "where oh where does all the money go"? Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.
On my way out of 7-11 to Asoke Place short time hotel, I spot a caramel brown SYT walking up Asoke from Soi Cowboy in the arms of an Asian punter. It was sprinkling rain so I just did a double take and thought what a nice package, looking a bit like Jane #4 from Crazy House. Slight pang of jealousy. Anyway, I go up to the lobby where my regular was dutifully waiting and proceeded to a good short time session. After parting with my short time squeeze, I was walking back up Asoke in the drizzle of rain (this time umbrella extended) near the Pullman hotel and spot the same girl walking in the opposite direction. As we neared, I gave her the look and sure enough the beaming smile confirmed it was Jane. Jane was keen to follow in my direction, but I was sapped of sperm, otherwise I would have taken her for a short time. Instead, like I did on a previous session, asked if she had a LINE. She mentioned she still has no phone, which was the case before, so I promised to meet her in CH next time and we parted ways.
Now knowing the popularity of Jane and her general earning power, it surprised me that she still has not gotten one of the key tools of trade. And I am skeptical as hell of bar girls with any stories. However, she had mentioned last time that she sends her money home. And coupled with the fact that she still dresses in quite "rural" basic fashion, I am of a tendency to believe that she is not really spending much on herself. Another mystery case of "where oh where does all the money go"? Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.Or she has a phone (my guess) and does not want to give her LINE ID out as she wants dudes to come and BF her from CH.
Franciscass
01-10-17, 16:29
Or she has a phone (my guess) and does not want to give her LINE ID out as she wants dudes to come and BF her from CH.Thai girls cannot exist without their phone. With prices nowadays she could buy one with just a single short time.
Looking to try a threesome at Eden. Have heard wonderful things but was wondering whether you will be expected to change condoms when changing pussy, which can be a deal breaker. Also is it possible to choose both girls?
Wolvenvacht
01-11-17, 08:34
Looking to try a threesome at Eden. Have heard wonderful things but was wondering whether you will be expected to change condoms when changing pussy, which can be a deal breaker. Also is it possible to choose both girls?Generally speaking, yes condoms are charged when you change pussy.
I have no idea if you can negotiate it differently, but you can always ask. Why not ask the mamasan?
Unless you want to change pussy every three thrusts, I found it not a bother. Usually I aim for two pops during a session, one with each girl. No need to change condoms during the act. The other girl will kiss me or lick my nipples or get her pussy licked by the girl I'm fucking or do any other naughty thing that catches my fancy.
Of course you can choose both girls yourself. Whether that is a wise move is something else.
Now knowing the popularity of Jane and her general earning power, it surprised me that she still has not gotten one of the key tools of trade. And I am skeptical as hell of bar girls with any stories. However, she had mentioned last time that she sends her money home. And coupled with the fact that she still dresses in quite "rural" basic fashion, I am of a tendency to believe that she is not really spending much on herself. Another mystery case of "where oh where does all the money go"? Enjoy Bangkok, AsianRain.Girls may want a holiday from having lots of guys hassling her all the time, every day.
I would say that Jane used to have some means of contact with very regular clients, since sometimes she used to arrive at CH with Client in tow. Whether she still has a smart phone I don't know. I did book her about 4 weeks ago, and did not ask for contact details from memory, since I have only actually sessioned twice. She has been normally difficult to get to so I was shocked that she was available. She had apparently only just returned after being away for a period, so it seems her regulars did not know she had just come back to work. I did not notice if she had a phone or perhaps I just don't remember now.
My Jane meeting:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1972188&viewfull=1#post1972188
She may have been under too much pressure juggling too many regular customers, and potentially even semi-boyfriends, when customers try to become more than just a customer. So she may have moved to a new phone and using private LINE contact details that the customers did not know about to take the pressure off. I am just speculating of course.
Anyway, if Jane gave her contact details to every single guy that wanted it, she could be swamped with several guys all wanting her exclusively on the same night. She may have realised that she can make much more money by cutting back on LT bookings and doing several STs per night, yet she would not want the hassle of having guys pre booking the ST at specific times that might make things inflexible.
Jane is probably the current most popular CH girl (particularly for Farang customers that don't need big tits), or close to it, so she may have decided for a period she would also like to make the most money, not just be in demand, yet making low money on LT bookings.
Another idea. Supposing she has an official boyfriend that is jealous. He could well have banned her from contacting lots of guys by phone, but still allow her to work and make some money. I knew a girl at SW that had a BF supporting her, so she could NOT receive phone calls from guys on LINE. She had actually quit the bar. I knew how to behave and not cause her problems.
All sorts of scenarios are possible. Just some ideas. When I next see her, I can ask just a little what is going on with her with bar work, and about the stresses of dealing with regular customers and "boyfriends", and see what she says. However we can't expect bargirls to ever be 100% honest on all topics. They will tell only what they think is advisable to tell.
One girl told me the DJ at CH was her ex BF. That was only after we knew each other for a long time. She never would have told that when we first met and did not know each other very well. Still she was not 100% honest on all things.
Very well organised girls have two phones or two SIMs, and use one LINE account for business, and another separate one for personal, family, etc. So CH Donut, therefore only reads my messages from time to time, not daily. She will contact me sometimes when is not focussing too much on studies. She definitely has more than one phone number and LINE account. Said she had not worked CH for several months.
Jane will appreciate guys that just take it all very casual with her, I reckon. She knows that with me, I will probably be interested when she happens to be there and available. She can just spot me from a distance, and I can give her the wink or nod, which means "come to me, if you have no customer already". Only ever eventuated two or three times to date, but who knows for the future.
Looking to try a threesome at Eden. Have heard wonderful things but was wondering whether you will be expected to change condoms when changing pussy, which can be a deal breaker. Also is it possible to choose both girls?Yes to changing condoms.
Yes; you can pick both ladies. It has been suggested by some that you choose one lady, and you let her choose the second. Reason being you want her to pick someone she is comfortable working with especially if you want some girl / girl action. It is logical to assume that not all the ladies in the shop get along equally, and two that were pals would be a better fit, but either way is fine. I usually go 50/50 on it. In some ways the lady you pick first is considered the take charge 'leader' and the second is more the 'helper' but ultimately that becomes a fluid situation. There have been times when I let my 1st choice pick the second, and I ended up clicking with the second choice better.
Many report that the Eden ladies are mechanical. I would suggest that they more have a mental checklist of activities they are trying to cover. The other observation is they try and make you cum rather quickly. Well if you are in a timed situation where you can cum as many times as you want getting the first one done quickly might be viewed as a benefit. Ultimately you are in charge of the action and the pacing; just make it clear what you want.
SL.
Crocodilexp
01-11-17, 14:39
She mentioned she still has no phone, which was the case beforeShe needs to step up her game and come up with a better excuse.
No way in hell a Thai working girl would be without a phone for more than 48 hours, even if she just lost one. Given her popularity, she cannot be exactly destitute either, and a new Android phone costs just 3000 baht or even less for basic models.
Thais are notoriously bad at excuses, since the culture makes it impolite for people to call out each other even on obvious lies.
She needs to step up her game and come up with a better excuse.She does not actually NEED to. She won't get kicked off my list of repeat girls, due to some story that may or may not be 100% true. She "has no phone" at present may actually mean she currently has no phone and SIM for P4 P purposes, that she can give out right now. Could be looking for alleviation of Stress.
No way in hell a Thai working girl would be without a phone for more than 48 hours, even if she just lost one. Given her popularity, she cannot be exactly destitute either, and a new Android phone costs just 3000 baht or even less for basic models.We have no way of knowing how much money she needs for what purpose and what are her priorities. House construction could leave a girl short of money. Does a girl really want a 3000 Baht phone? I think not unless she is desperate. She could ask one of her best customers to buy her a new better phone, if she wanted that. LOL I don't really know how generous her customers have been. Just she has history of being seen with customers repeating her daily, and presumably taking her LT, and hardly ever without a customer.
Thais are notoriously bad at excuses, since the culture makes it impolite for people to call out each other even on obvious lies.Yes notorious for distortions of the truth. No need for us to be too concerned about it. Would not bother me too much if girl was telling 100% truth or not. I am relaxed about these things.
The big contradiction is that girls love to insist that men must be 100% honest with them. They cannot stand liars. LOL Obviously there are lots of things that I omit telling the girl, and maybe some minor distortions of the real story, or very major distortions depending on which girl is asking.
It is good to have the odd girl that does not have to be lied to, as it makes everything simpler. She can tell me about the other guys in her life as well, if she wants to. Does not have to hide things, and need to come up with bad excuses. I have a one girl that is like a 2nd girlfriend and I am like her 2nd boyfriend. It feels better than being the primary sometimes, as we don't have to keep big secrets, and make up big bullshit. Yet we still may not tell each other every last thing. In each case the primary GF and BF has to be told some lies. Neither of us get everything we need from the primary partner. This 2nd GF has resulted in me cutting my visits to normal mongering venues greatly, for the time being. I wonder how many years we could go on like this, or will it fizzle out, when one of us gets too old, or someone more exiting turns up?
Remember the critical saying:
"Believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you actually see".
I try to live by facts of what actually happened, that I am sure I saw, without always being too certain of the reasons. I don't get too concerned about stories that may be 100% true or more usually are distorted in some way. Bargirls personal life is not our business, so we best not ask them questions, and cause them to come up with "stories". Allow them to tell us want they want but no need to be too sure what is true or not true.
e.g. Took the bargirl for a short time. Afterwards she says she says she does not want to return to the bar but will go home. She lives on the way to my place, or not far out of my way, so I offer her a lift in the taxi. She declines and offers some excuse. Absolutely no need to think too much about where she will really go next, her business. Could be anything, but her returning home directly alone is probably not likely, otherwise the free taxi ride would have been of benefit. Sometimes they have a prearrangement for some motorcycle guy to drop them home, that could be a husband, a BF, a pimp, a brother, or just someone paid to do so daily. Sometimes they want to go and party with friends. The waitress in the Sports Pub is far more likely to accept a lift home, late when closing. Some girls love to request to be barfined from the bar, so they can go home, as they do not want to work. The chances that this is 100% true is not very good. LOL Bargirls love to make up stories. LOL How many are 100% honest? It's probably not zero, but a low percentage like 5%.
Have met Thai girls that have never caught out on a lie, and never even heard hard to believe stories from. The girls that are very uncomfortable about lying, usually just clam up instead.
Pahllus Maximus
01-12-17, 05:01
First time here. Some very cute girls, so cute, giggling and young it was hard to imagine that they are trained to deliver expert BJ's with suction, ball ticking and happily take a full load in their dainty little mouths as you watch them in the mirror with their mouth over a big cock. 700 baht, girl was all chatty and happy, offered FS for 1700 after recovery. She was so coy and yet mischievous that I got hard again.
Nan must have been no more than 19-20, full deep throat, which given my girth and length was impressive. Most girls try to limit with their hands or just the tip. No her. Swallowed whole with constant suction and tongue action, milked every last drop and held my hand as I shot off in her mouth. Friendly afterwards, got me a cold beer and a nice chat.
10/10 for looks, technique and ambience. My only wish would be a cappuccino machine and open at 8 am for a pre-work coffee, danish and BJ.
Life is good!
First time here. Some very cute girls, so cute, giggling and young it was hard to imagine that they are trained to deliver expert BJ's with suction, ball ticking and happily take a full load in their dainty little mouths as you watch them in the mirror with their mouth over a big cock. 700 baht, girl was all chatty and happy, offered FS for 1700 after recovery. She was so coy and yet mischievous that I got hard again.
Nan must have been no more than 19-20, full deep throat, which given my girth and length was impressive. Most girls try to limit with their hands or just the tip. No her. Swallowed whole with constant suction and tongue action, milked every last drop and held my hand as I shot off in her mouth. Friendly afterwards, got me a cold beer and a nice chat.
10/10 for looks, technique and ambience. My only wish would be a cappuccino machine and open at 8 am for a pre-work coffee, danish and BJ.
Life is good!Here's my question about Som's. I've been there many times, and usually one of the providers will latch on to me at the door and I wonder about the etiquette of declining the company of the unattractive one and pick my own. I go through this every time. Try to pick one out before I get to the entrance and point to her, but the past few times, once they see a customer approach, one will stand up as if it's her turn. Though I shouldn't, I feel awkward saying 'no' and have wound up with some ugly ones where I find it hard to become aroused. Why only at Som's do they do this and what do others do here?
Here's my question about Som's. I've been there many times, and usually one of the providers will latch on to me at the door and I wonder about the etiquette of declining the company of the unattractive one and pick my own. I go through this every time. Try to pick one out before I get to the entrance and point to her, but the past few times, once they see a customer approach, one will stand up as if it's her turn. Though I shouldn't, I feel awkward saying 'no' and have wound up with some ugly ones where I find it hard to become aroused. Why only at Som's do they do this and what do others do here?I have been coming to Thailand for 25 years and I only ever took an assigned girl at a legit real massage place with no hanky panky, and even that has been very rare for me.
I have been to a number of BJ shops, not including Som's, but including Loli-tas, Dr. BJ, SOL, Kangaroo club, Annies Rose (Pat Pong many years ago), Lollipop visited (but did not partake), Toy bar years ago, never once did I have an assigned girl. In several of these places, perhaps all, I preferred to do more than just have a BJ.
At SOL (Star of Light) one old duck tried to say to me that its just a BJ, and the looks of the lady do not matter, only her skills, as if we are supposed to close our eyes. LOL However I need visual stimulation to cum. I was not persuaded for one second. No sex in the dark for me. The prettier the girl, the better. In other types of venues I am very experienced at shooing away unwanted girls, so that I can get the one of my choice.
Shops with plenty of ugly girls may try a rotation system on the customer, if they can get away with it, even Tulip, however you just have to indicate that you would like to select the girl that is your spec. This is so normal. In my case there is a high probability that no girl will be to my liking and I just move on. A few times I just moved on from LOL-itas simply because Anne was not there or not available. I always wanted to fuck her, more than receive just a BJ.
Would you like to stick your dick through a hole in the wall and be blown by an unseen girl. I have seen the beginning of a porn movie like this and thought, how totally stupid. Does telephone sex make any sense if you have no video of the girl? I think it died out many years ago, right?
I assume 90% of customers at Som's are not taking an assigned lady (random for the customer), but correct me if I am quite wrong. I suppose I should look in Som's someday soon, but not if I don't get to pick a hot girl.
James Dean 2
01-12-17, 11:21
Here's my question about Som's. I've been there many times, and usually one of the providers will latch on to me at the door and I wonder about the etiquette of declining the company of the unattractive one and pick my own. I go through this every time. Try to pick one out before I get to the entrance and point to her, but the past few times, once they see a customer approach, one will stand up as if it's her turn. Though I shouldn't, I feel awkward saying 'no' and have wound up with some ugly ones where I find it hard to become aroused. Why only at Som's do they do this and what do others do here?I go to Som's pretty regularly. Once every 2 weeks for the last couple of years. Initially, I would take the auto assigned up as you mention but lately, I take my time at the door and pick one to my liking. The girls are totally cool about this and you will not get any looks from the auto assigned lady nor from the last who took your load the last time. You may feel a little awkward, but don't! You money, your dick, your choice.
Looking to try a threesome at Eden. Have heard wonderful things but was wondering whether you will be expected to change condoms when changing pussy, which can be a deal breaker. Also is it possible to choose both girls?You should expect to change condoms a few times, not only when switching girls, but also switching from A-hole to pussy.
I go to Som's pretty regularly. Once every 2 weeks for the last couple of years. Initially, I would take the auto assigned up as you mention but lately, I take my time at the door and pick one to my liking. The girls are totally cool about this and you will not get any looks from the auto assigned lady nor from the last who took your load the last time. You may feel a little awkward, but don't! You money, your dick, your choice.Here's a strange thing. Though I've been coming to and mongering in Bangkok close to 20 years and outside of the odd instances at Tulip, only had to deal with an 'auto assignment' at Som's. Until this evening when I went to Snow White and the manager called up a girl and said 'this will be your masseuse tonight'! I'm not a real regular at SW, but have been there close to a dozen times without this ever happening. I doubt a sign of an emerging pattern, but for the life of me I can't think of why this has been happening - I'm not doing anything or acting differently. Maybe my recent haircut makes me look like a newbie idiot tourist and I just don't realize it! Since I already eye-balled who was working and didn't see any takers, just said to the manager "no line up?" and walked out. Just in case this actually is some emerging operating procedure.
Franciscass
01-13-17, 17:40
Here's a strange thing. Though I've been coming to and mongering in Bangkok close to 20 years and outside of the odd instances at Tulip, only had to deal with an 'auto assignment' at Som's. Until this evening when I went to Snow White and the manager called up a girl and said 'this will be your masseuse tonight'! I'm not a real regular at SW, but have been there close to a dozen times without this ever happening. I doubt a sign of an emerging pattern, but for the life of me I can't think of why this has been happening - I'm not doing anything or acting differently. Maybe my recent haircut makes me look like a newbie idiot tourist and I just don't realize it! Since I already eye-balled who was working and didn't see any takers, just said to the manager "no line up?" and walked out. Just in case this actually is some emerging operating procedure.One of the HR issues at oilies is that if there is always a line up the less attractive lose out and it's only during busy periods they have any chance of making some money. Management try to rectify this in a number of ways. After having had say three sessions the stars either go home or are kept in the "hole" (obviously they stay on if there are bookings) or as in your experience you are told this girl is next up. This does not mean if you ask for a lineup they will refuse. I don't know, maybe that's the way it's going but I doubt it.
Here's a strange thing. Though I've been coming to and mongering in Bangkok close to 20 years and outside of the odd instances at Tulip, only had to deal with an 'auto assignment' at Som's. Until this evening when I went to Snow White and the manager called up a girl and said 'this will be your masseuse tonight'! I'm not a real regular at SW, but have been there close to a dozen times without this ever happening. I doubt a sign of an emerging pattern, but for the life of me I can't think of why this has been happening - I'm not doing anything or acting differently. Maybe my recent haircut makes me look like a newbie idiot tourist and I just don't realize it! Since I already eye-balled who was working and didn't see any takers, just said to the manager "no line up?" and walked out. Just in case this actually is some emerging operating procedure.I am always perturbed that in many different posts, as soon as something undesired happens, guys will walk out of some place. Your decision of course, and I guess they spoiled your mood. At least you don't say, you will never return. I see the "never return" line posted by guys often, and wonder why they got so pissed off by little incidents (which could happen anywhere).
We all have to learn to keep our brain at peace (turn down the anger setting is important in Thailand) and ignore something that someone tries to push on us, polite "no thanks" perhaps, or in my case "Mai Mee Wan" (no way is this going to happen with me). So I would recommend to still push on and ask to see the line up and pretend nothing had happened. I suppose others have the opinion that the shop needs to punished for the bad behavior.
I would not exit a bar just because mamasan brought some girl over to meet me, when she should know I never take this. I would just say "no thanks, I choose for myself, I have my own eyes, I know my own spec". I only leave if harassment is on going non stop by all and sundry like I experienced Rainbow 3 a few years back, and that was a "never to return" type extreme experience.
I exit places quickly enough, because I don't like any of the girls, or can't see anything of interest. It's rare there is another reason.
If I arrive at Snow White (or any place), they are likely to ask me what I want today, like how long, what type of session etc. , right? I always say I need to see the line up first, to choose someone, before deciding on anything. The possibility of assigning some one to me would never arise, I think.
Does SW still have the LB receptionist? "She" would obviously know all the regulars very well, and what they are likely to want. She would know many of us did not show up to pay money to fuck "any old dog". We don't go to SW for a highly skilled ancient healing Thai massage.
So they are trying to help ugly girls with no business. Just ignore it, and pretend nothing weird happened.
The girls that cannot pull a customer, need to leave, and find some other type of employ. Not every girl can expect that guys want to pay to fuck them, however I amazed by some of the real dogs working as hookers in Europe, and somehow they do get a customer, however they do this by having a chance to interact with the customer, suck up to him, stroke his ego, act excessively charming, etc. MP girls don't have this chance and have to get by with trying to smile sweetly, and act hot for the customer. We have to realise that not every customer, cares about the looks at all. Mystifies me. The receptionist may not know the customer and whether he is looks oriented or not, has a visual spec, unless we say so.
When we pay money to buy, we want to select the merchandise, not have some 2nd class goods foisted on us. Sorry to use an analogy.
In Soapies, they have different price tiers, so separate the better looking or more popular girls from the also rans. Maybe SW should set a special low price for the less popular girls, to make the deal seem more attractive. Two tier pricing would be enough. Pay higher for the super stars, and less for the very ordinary girls. Could help even out the bookings a little.
I think it is sensible that Woobar/Dr. BJ has a special lower price for a "Nurse" rather than a "Consultant" as she is prepared to accept less money in order to get some business, even though the bargain basement girls are unlikely to ever interest me. They always have a line up to choose though (I think), even though I only ever used a line up there once maybe when it first opened.
I go to Som's pretty regularly. Once every 2 weeks for the last couple of years. Initially, I would take the auto assigned up as you mention but lately, I take my time at the door and pick one to my liking. The girls are totally cool about this and you will not get any looks from the auto assigned lady nor from the last who took your load the last time. You may feel a little awkward, but don't! You money, your dick, your choice.I agree 100% and your last sentence should be the mantra: YOUR MONEY, YOUR DICK, YOUR CHOICE!!
If any establishment tries the auto-assignment nonsence, please do everyone a favour and and walk out.
To use an analogy, if you went shopping for clothes, this is like the store telling you - you MUST buy brand X. Unacceptable.
~BKKguru.
Hi,
Going be in BKK soon and I always do my favorite massage places in Phrong Phong area, however been reading up on the soapies in the Huai Khwang area as I never been.
Would those who know the difference between the Soapy (Amsterdam, Emanualle etc) compared to massage places (101, Cherry, Mango), is it worth venturing out to the soapies for a good romp even though I know I can get a good enough one from my favorite oily massage?
Keeping in mind I only have limited time in BKK, like 48 hours and can do only one (can't get away from work).
So venture north of the Phrong Phong wall to new lands of Hau Khwang for what sounds like green pasture of the soapy (also more expensive) or sticking with my comfy zone oily massage?
If the only difference is swanky room, then that not issue for me as I take massage girl to my swanky hotel. Thing I don't like is the hit and miss, getting a girl with poor attitude, with the massage places I already have a couple picked that I know have good attitude.
I agree 100% and your last sentence should be the mantra: YOUR MONEY, YOUR DICK, YOUR CHOICE!!
If any establishment tries the auto-assignment nonsence, please do everyone a favour and and walk out.
To use an analogy, if you went shopping for clothes, this is like the store telling you - you MUST buy brand X. Unacceptable.
~BKKguru.I try to make my select at these places before I walk in since the girls often sit outside. If I don't see one I like I will go inside and have a drink. Sometimes I will see a girl wandering around or see one that just finished with a customer that gets my attention. If the bar tries the auto assign I just say no thanks. As Syzygies stated it doesn't pay to get angry or overly upset about things like this. The bar is usually helping a girl that hasn't made much money that night when the bar auto assigns. It's not a rip off. A polite no from the customer will always work.
Anyone who can not respond to auto-assigning with a smile and the words "I prefer to choose" should seriously reconsider their choice of hobbies.
SL.
To use an analogy, if you went shopping for clothes, this is like the store telling you - you MUST buy brand X. Unacceptable.
~BKKguru.No it's not like that at all. It's much more like hiring a car for a day at "Rent a Wreck", but being told what make and age of car will be assigned to you for the day. Like does it matter? LOL Of course it does.
When it comes to the auto-assign debate, I agree with your right to choose.
When it comes to BJ bars though, I'd suggest you pick the enthusiastic one over the prettiest one. In my experience, the best BJ's come from the ones who are happy to do it.
Crazy4Thai
01-15-17, 03:36
I know what the general reputation is for the CL advertisers. I go have a look now and then and there are 2 or 3 on there that I find tempting. Someone must be partaking as the ads continue. Does anyone have a recent experience, good or bad? The other interesting detail I noticed today is how the pics of the same person can vary so much. There are 2 ads under Casual Encounters titled "Looking For A Nice Man", both posted on Jan 14. It is clearly the same woman. If you put her best pic along side her worst pic, WHAT a difference.
Hi,
Going be in BKK soon and I always do my favorite massage places in Phrong Phong area, however been reading up on the soapies in the Huai Khwang area as I never been.
Would those who know the difference between the Soapy (Amsterdam, Emanualle etc) compared to massage places (101, Cherry, Mango), is it worth venturing out to the soapies for a good romp even though I know I can get a good enough one from my favorite oily massage?
Keeping in mind I only have limited time in BKK, like 48 hours and can do only one (can't get away from work).
So venture north of the Phrong Phong wall to new lands of Hau Khwang for what sounds like green pasture of the soapy (also more expensive) or sticking with my comfy zone oily massage?
If the only difference is swanky room, then that not issue for me as I take massage girl to my swanky hotel. Thing I don't like is the hit and miss, getting a girl with poor attitude, with the massage places I already have a couple picked that I know have good attitude.48 hours is a very short time.
It is a bit hit and miss. Then again it is a bit hit and miss at plenty of Oily MPs too. You might find girls very attractive compared to the Oilies, perhaps? But service levels can be very iffy.
I would suggest to you to try Darling Massage (soapy) close at hand first, to see if there is any real appeal for you.
Also read through this thread for recent Soapy reports. E. g. From Ralph Kramden. I used to like Amsterdam but their whole setup may have been moved to Emmanuelle.
I have probably been to Soapy place 150 times over the years, but it does not seem to be anywhere near as good as 20 years ago, and my attendance has dropped off badly. Having a long bath with a girl seems more like a waste of time in the modern day.
ThatGuy7778
01-15-17, 05:22
When it comes to the auto-assign debate, I agree with your right to choose.
When it comes to BJ bars though, I'd suggest you pick the enthusiastic one over the prettiest one. In my experience, the best BJ's come from the ones who are happy to do it.BJ Bars are kinda a hit / miss with me, instead of giving you a BJ it feels more like they are just jerking you off with their mouths. I find out that the more riskier back alley BJ girls are much better at what they do and cheaper ($4 USD or 100 baht avg.).
Hi bros.
I'm from Sri Lanka and coming next month to Bangkok. Please share happy ending joints.
Thanks.
Hi bros.
I'm from Sri Lanka and coming next month to Bangkok. Please share happy ending joints.
Thanks.Are you for real?
What do you think Bangkok is?
Are you aware where you are heading to?
Better RTFF for your own sake of mind.
Just a friendly advice.
I know what the general reputation is for the CL advertisers. I go have a look now and then and there are 2 or 3 on there that I find tempting. Someone must be partaking as the ads continue. Does anyone have a recent experience, good or bad? The other interesting detail I noticed today is how the pics of the same person can vary so much. There are 2 ads under Casual Encounters titled "Looking For A Nice Man", both posted on Jan 14. It is clearly the same woman. If you put her best pic along side her worst pic, WHAT a difference.ThaiFriendly is much better, membership is cheap, and if you put out blanket greetings (copy and paste over and over and over), you will get dates.
Hi bros.
I'm from Sri Lanka and coming next month to Bangkok. Please share happy ending joints.
Thanks.Sri Lanka? Sorry, I think everywhere in Bangkok is members only.
Pahllus Maximus
01-15-17, 11:47
After a good time in Pattaya its time to head back to Vienna, so I thought I'd give this place a go.
They switched the girl I chose. The girl that appeared was so ugly she could be modern art masterpiece. A really jaded out bar hag. The mode is fully clothed, machine gun jerking on manhood within about 60 seconds, then after a few minutes (me indicating to slow down) a suillen "why you no come yet" then disgustedly in Thai to girl next door "Farang Nogn" and something else presumably derogatoort. Her answer to the "slow down" was without warning try and stick in a giant toy, getting the spot wrong and trying to tear delicate flesh. Rough as guts Oh, and the best part. No condoms so as to maximise STD risk. Truly one of the worst ever experiences.
After about 10 minutes, I abort, unfinished. Politely complain. The mamasan and some sphinx like Asian droid, presumably the owner, were as rude as you can imagine, apparently having lost her perfect English from 10 minutes ago. So I indicate with rapid finger snapping and hands doing the "slow down" to convey they rushed service. Girl from upstairs now turns up yelling some crap and saying phuck a lot. Mamasan casually told me to phuck my mother and family, to which I replied, "Is your mom upstairs, you could join her" to which she lost it and threw a glass that just missed me and shattered on the wall (lucky no the sliding door). Boss man's face still impassive. She then says get out and I laughed at them, saying "you don't think I take you seriously, if your English has recovered". Laughing at them really did it, they chased me up the street, me breaking out some dance poses and mocking them (I run 10 miles day and am fast). This scene of course scared off some waiting punters, typical Thai style of cutting of nose to save face and resulting negative publicity. They really don't think beyond the moment.
Anyway, avoid this place unlees you want STD's, stitches and machine gun style service with an extremely rushed and jaded old hag. I've used Snow White, Mango, Pinks, places in Hamburg, Philippines and other places for decades with nothing like this. Tell your friends. Avoid at all costs.
After a good time in Pattaya its time to head back to Vienna, so I thought I'd give this place a go.
They switched the girl I chose. The girl that appeared was so ugly she could be modern art masterpiece. A really jaded out bar hag. The mode is fully clothed, machine gun jerking on manhood within about 60 seconds, then after a few minutes (me indicating to slow down) a suillen "why you no come yet" then disgustedly in Thai to girl next door "Farang Nogn" and something else presumably derogatoort. Her answer to the "slow down" was without warning try and stick in a giant toy, getting the spot wrong and trying to tear delicate flesh. Rough as guts Oh, and the best part. No condoms so as to maximise STD risk. Truly one of the worst ever experiences.
After about 10 minutes, I abort, unfinished. Politely complain. The mamasan and some sphinx like Asian droid, presumably the owner, were as rude as you can imagine, apparently having lost her perfect English from 10 minutes ago. So I indicate with rapid finger snapping and hands doing the "slow down" to convey they rushed service. Girl from upstairs now turns up yelling some crap and saying phuck a lot. Mamasan casually told me to phuck my mother and family, to which I replied, "Is your mom upstairs, you could join her" to which she lost it and threw a glass that just missed me and shattered on the wall (lucky no the sliding door). Boss man's face still impassive. She then says get out and I laughed at them, saying "you don't think I take you seriously, if your English has recovered". Laughing at them really did it, they chased me up the street, me breaking out some dance poses and mocking them (I run 10 miles day and am fast). This scene of course scared off some waiting punters, typical Thai style of cutting of nose to save face and resulting negative publicity. They really don't think beyond the moment.
Anyway, avoid this place unlees you want STD's, stitches and machine gun style service with an extremely rushed and jaded old hag. I've used Snow White, Mango, Pinks, places in Hamburg, Philippines and other places for decades with nothing like this. Tell your friends. Avoid at all costs.I guess it wasn't funny to be there, but cracks me up a bit. I wish we had the video, too.
Ralph Kramden
01-15-17, 14:17
Hi bros.
I'm from Sri Lanka and coming next month to Bangkok. Please share happy ending joints.
Thanks.Analisa massage Soi 6.
Don't even bother to RTFF because this is a can't miss place. It is so fantastic that you will want to go there two or three times a day.
Ralph Kramden
01-15-17, 14:19
Sri Lanka? Sorry, I think everywhere in Bangkok is members only.Analisa massage Soi 6.
Not this one Smoothy. They take all cummers and don't give a fuck where they are from or what they look like. Smelly armpits and ketchup drool down to your flip-flops. No problem.
Member #4698
01-15-17, 15:35
Analisa massage Soi 6.
Don't even bother to RTFF because this is a can't miss place. It is so fantastic that you will want to go there two or three times a day.OK, but lets get this straight, Ralph; vaginal sex is not on the menu here. Correct?
Pahllus Maximus
01-15-17, 16:23
Yeah, with hindsight, a few hours later, and 800 baht poorer, it was funny, but would not be funny of the hurled glass connected with me. I am starting to think Thai's are impulsive and not into thinking very much. They are terribly hypocritical and the play dumb on language, selective communication, that vanishes when there is a problem involving money.
Still, other punters have pointed out that service and competition is alien in the Thai world, everything is immediate cash and carry and they have not cottoned on to social media. Or maybe this was an insight into the contempt they hold for us behind the smiles, or maybe just a business with the impassive Foo Man Chu that does not care.
Yeah, the retort "Get your mom from upstairs and join her" after her gratuitous shit to me is what really set her off. Probably true, mom was upstairs doing cock massage.
A very bad place and experience after 20+ years of mongering. Oh, and I was caught unawares of the toy business, probably their level 2 method trying to get customer to come ASAP after the jackhammer wank to debride me of skin.
Pahllus Maximus
01-15-17, 16:26
Yeah, forgot to say, no action, and if they did you would need a paper bag over her head, or at least for the bait and switch, AFTER they have you money, at which point English disappears as does any refund. A rip-off joint with mad, uglies.
FritsVanegter
01-15-17, 16:46
Hello,
I went there when they were still in soil 22 for some serious BDSM stuff. They did have 3 or 4 ladies who were all experts. But now they have all gone and work in other places.
They still mention on their website they can do BDSM. Last time I visited them there was only one lady available and the room was just a shared room with curtains. In the other shop they did have 2 very well equipped big rooms for your fantasy.
The non BDSM ladies I did see in soi 22 were always friendly. Maybe now they have new staff?
Greetings,
Frits.
Crocodilexp
01-15-17, 17:55
I'm from Sri Lanka and coming next month to Bangkok. Please share happy ending joints.Happy ending joints? Do you want a list of all 374 of them? That's quite a project.
Are you sure only 374? I think you are missing some zeroes.
Happy ending joints? Do you want a list of all 374 of them? That's quite a project..
Yeah, forgot to say, no action, and if they did you would need a paper bag over her head, or at least for the bait and switch, AFTER they have you money, at which point English disappears as does any refund. A rip-off joint with mad, uglies.On another message board site, the mamasan of Analisa finally admitted after dodging a clear answer through several exchanges that there is (or was) apparently only one girl in the shop who will consent to giving a BBBJ to a CIM finish. Otherwise, only CBJ is on offer. And with that lone provider the customer needs to clear it with her before agreeing to a session, pay fully for and submit to a regular massage session and then "tip" her an additional 800 baht for this extraordinary extra special unparalled "BJ" treat.
This, despite the fact that I believe they pitch something called a "BJ Package", "BJ Treatment" or something like that in their menu.
Why in the world anyone wanting a BJ would go through all that at Analisa instead of walking about 10 seconds past that shop to get a no hassle genuine BBBJ+CIM from a cute young girl in Kasalong Bar or L0lita's for 800 baht all in is a mystery that no one at Analisa seems very interested in investigating or solving.
StudBucket
01-15-17, 21:06
After a good time in Pattaya its time to head back to Vienna, so I thought I'd give this place a go.
They switched the girl I chose. The girl that appeared was so ugly she could be modern art masterpiece. A really jaded out bar hag. The mode is fully clothed, machine gun jerking on manhood within about 60 seconds, then after a few minutes (me indicating to slow down) a suillen "why you no come yet" then disgustedly in Thai to girl next door "Farang Nogn" and something else presumably derogatoort. Her answer to the "slow down" was without warning try and stick in a giant toy, getting the spot wrong and trying to tear delicate flesh. Rough as guts Oh, and the best part. No condoms so as to maximise STD risk. Truly one of the worst ever experiences.
After about 10 minutes, I abort, unfinished. Politely complain. The mamasan and some sphinx like Asian droid, presumably the owner, were as rude as you can imagine, apparently having lost her perfect English from 10 minutes ago. So I indicate with rapid finger snapping and hands doing the "slow down" to convey they rushed service. Girl from upstairs now turns up yelling some crap and saying phuck a lot. Mamasan casually told me to phuck my mother and family, to which I replied, "Is your mom upstairs, you could join her" to which she lost it and threw a glass that just missed me and shattered on the wall (lucky no the sliding door). Boss man's face still impassive. She then says get out and I laughed at them, saying "you don't think I take you seriously, if your English has recovered". Laughing at them really did it, they chased me up the street, me breaking out some dance poses and mocking them (I run 10 miles day and am fast). This scene of course scared off some waiting punters, typical Thai style of cutting of nose to save face and resulting negative publicity. They really don't think beyond the moment.
Anyway, avoid this place unlees you want STD's, stitches and machine gun style service with an extremely rushed and jaded old hag. I've used Snow White, Mango, Pinks, places in Hamburg, Philippines and other places for decades with nothing like this. Tell your friends. Avoid at all costs.Thanks for the report Phallus, this place definitely will not ever see one cent of my business ever!
I am planning a trip to Thailand in early March. Staying 2 to 3 weeks. Am I better staying in Bangkok or splitting time between Bangkok and Phuket and or Pattaya? Have read through the boards and all seem like like good choices. Also is there any reason to make a stop in the Philippines? And a dive or recommendations are appreciated.
I am planning a trip to Thailand in early March. Staying 2 to 3 weeks. Am I better staying in Bangkok or splitting time between Bangkok and Phuket and or Pattaya? Have read through the boards and all seem like like good choices. Also is there any reason to make a stop in the Philippines? And a dive or recommendations are appreciated.I recommend Koh Adang for beautiful tropical fish and corals and nature, not too many people. Ha Ha. Now more seriously, we cannot know what you are looking for and how you want to spend your time. Like what your priorities are. We don't even know if it is mainly a fucking holiday or mainly a tourist holiday. What sort of girls do you like, and how do you want to choose and interact with them. Surely you have been reading here and have read many different styles of going looking for girls.
What I do recommend is not to book all your hotels for the whole holiday. Book the first night or two, okay And then see what happens. Keep the whole thing flexible. Try things, and leave quickly if you don't like them.
Pattaya has the most concentrated setup for sex. Don't go there for other reasons.
Patong Beech Phuket is a much nicer beech area than Pattaya, and sex mongering is available, but not as versatile as Bangkok and Pattaya.
Bangkok has good variety of sex joints and other touristy options.
You can try them all, however if beautiful beeches are of no interest, skip Phuket. For diving you can travel somewhere interesting from Phuket, but Phuket itself is not that special.
FunExplorer
01-17-17, 06:23
I am planning a trip to Thailand in early March. Staying 2 to 3 weeks. Am I better staying in Bangkok or splitting time between Bangkok and Phuket and or Pattaya? Have read through the boards and all seem like like good choices. Also is there any reason to make a stop in the Philippines? And a dive or recommendations are appreciated.My recommendation would be to splitting time between Pattaya and Bangkok rather than Phuket, with more time in Pattaya.
On another message board site, the mamasan of Analisa finally admitted after dodging a clear answer through several exchanges that there is (or was) apparently only one girl in the shop who will consent to giving a BBBJ to a CIM finish. Otherwise, only CBJ is on offer. And with that lone provider the customer needs to clear it with her before agreeing to a session, pay fully for and submit to a regular massage session and then "tip" her an additional 800 baht for this extraordinary extra special unparalled "BJ" treat.
Thanks for the "tip" off about the rip off. Fortunately never ventured the back ways of Soi 6 and hence never even found Kasalong. When hot ass Anne was not in Lolytas any more, I simply went somewhere else not close by. Other girls there were not hot enough. Of course I would have fallen for the Analisa mistake if I happened to meet a stunner outside the shop. I could be sucked in anywhere by stunners. LOL Otherwise, why bother?
Can't recall my last CBJ in Thailand, was so long ago. Is this really getting common? I am guessing most girls trust me, not to pop in their mouth if they don't take that sort of thing. I rarely do CIM anyway. I did have one CBJ this year in another country (I think. The memory get hazy of non exciting things) and only because she was a stunning model with big naturals (called Nastia LOL).
Any really experienced P4 P girl will know when you are about to pop and can avoid CIM (or CIP) if she wants to, so I don't really understand why CBJs. I am sure it is not a pregnancy thing. LOL. Cleanliness? Thrush? Okay Catching Chlamydia is possible, but fairly unlikely. Rates of new HIV cases in Thailand are way down compared to 25 years ago (Orally probably non existent).
Germany is intending to outlaw paying money for BBBJ, or for any liason including BBBJ. Again I have no clue what they think they will achieve.
I always stop in PI before and after I go to BKK. Even if it's only a one-night layover. Like others have said go to Patts but do see Bangkok first. Sukhumvit area or Silom area. Phuket is great location for scenery / beaches south of Patong and probably diving (I'm not a diver) but a little more expensive. If you stop in Manila go to Burgos Street in Makati and / or LA Cafe in Malate. Perhaps a side trip up to Angeles City for a night or two if you have time. Read the forums for each city to get all the details.
I am planning a trip to Thailand in early March. Staying 2 to 3 weeks. Am I better staying in Bangkok or splitting time between Bangkok and Phuket and or Pattaya? Have read through the boards and all seem like like good choices. Also is there any reason to make a stop in the Philippines? And a dive or recommendations are appreciated..
Thanks for the "tip" off about the rip off. Fortunately never ventured the back ways of Soi 6 and hence never even found Kasalong. When hot ass Anne was not in Lolytas any more, I simply went somewhere else not close by. Other girls there were not hot enough.I believe the best looking line up at any of the Bangkok BJ Bars these days is the day shift at Kasalong Bar, until about 6 PM when the day shift changes to the night shift. I would say there are at least 3-4 girls working there during the daytime that one might not even believe work in a BJ Bar if you saw them walking around in regular street clothes away from the bar, because they are far more attractive than the kind of girl one usually associates with a BJ Bar. Just my humble opinion, of course.
If you walk by most days between, say, 11 am and 6 pm and don't see a couple of lookers (not talking about true stunners, mind you, just among the best looking for this kind of venue) worth gobbling your knob for just 800 baht or spending more time in a ST room for FS or whatever for 1,700 baht then it is probably because another customer is already keeping them busy inside and up the stairs and only the "ordinary" looking girls are still sitting outside.
It is definitely a mongering trip although will do a little sightseeing. Would like to make it to the beach but not a must. Thanks for the suggestions.
I recommend Koh Adang for beautiful tropical fish and corals and nature, not too many people. Ha Ha. Now more seriously, we cannot know what you are looking for and how you want to spend your time. Like what your priorities are. We don't even know if it is mainly a fucking holiday or mainly a tourist holiday. What sort of girls do you like, and how do you want to choose and interact with them. Surely you have been reading here and have read many different styles of going looking for girls.
What I do recommend is not to book all your hotels for the whole holiday. Book the first night or two, okay And then see what happens. Keep the whole thing flexible. Try things, and leave quickly if you don't like them.
Pattaya has the most concentrated setup for sex. Don't go there for other reasons.
Patong Beech Phuket is a much nicer beech area than Pattaya, and sex mongering is available, but not as versatile as Bangkok and Pattaya.
Bangkok has good variety of sex joints and other touristy options.
You can try them all, however if beautiful beeches are of no interest, skip Phuket. For diving you can travel somewhere interesting from Phuket, but Phuket itself is not that special.
I believe the best looking line up at any of the Bangkok BJ Bars these days is the day shift at Kasalong Bar, until about 6 PM when the day shift changes to the night shift. I would say there are at least 3-4 girls working there during the daytime that one might not even believe work in a BJ Bar if you saw them walking around in regular street clothes away from the bar, because they are far more attractive than the kind of girl one usually associates with a BJ Bar. Just my humble opinion, of course.
Based on recent reports, Soms (Soi 14) has the hottest lineup these days. I will confirm when I visit next month.
~BKKguru.
Based on recent reports, Soms (Soi 14) has the hottest lineup these days. I will confirm when I visit next month.
~BKKguru.Passed by there the other day and decided to have a look. Was late afternoon. About 5 gals outside; not a single one of them attractive. Will circle back by in the next few days for another look.
Based on recent reports, Soms (Soi 14) has the hottest lineup these days. I will confirm when I visit next month.
~BKKguru.The last time I went to Som's Haven, about a month ago, there were 2-3 young-ish girls I thought were genuinely good looking or cute. Certainly good looking or cute enough to justify the time, the money and the ejaculation. But these things can change nightly, if not hourly. Seems to me there is a bit more leeway about the girls' required presence at these BJ Bars of late. Some show up when they want. Or maybe they are being barfined out for long time early in the shift, perhaps even for multiple days.
It would not be unreasonable to conclude that in Thailand's P4P venue scene today a better than average/good looking girl who knows how to give a genuinely good or better blowjob to a real CIM finish, and does it for her customers with focused determination, could pretty much write her own ticket for where she works, when she works and the management simply has to go along with it, happy to have her whenever she feels like showing up.
The last time I went to Som's Haven, about a month ago, there were 2-3 young-ish girls I thought were genuinely good looking or cute. Certainly good looking or cute enough to justify the time, the money and the ejaculation. But these things can change nightly, if not hourly. Seems to me there is a bit more leeway about the girls' required presence at these BJ Bars of late. Some show up when they want. Or maybe they are being barfined out for long time early in the shift, perhaps even for multiple days.
It would not be unreasonable to conclude that in Thailand's P4P venue scene today a better than average/good looking girl who knows how to give a genuinely good or better blowjob to a real CIM finish, and does it for her customers with focused determination, could pretty much write her own ticket for where she works, when she works and the management simply has to go along with it, happy to have her whenever she feels like showing up.It is very strange that some establishments have very strict rules, where if a girl leaves the employ, she will never be allowed to return, unless she pays a huge payout figure. The establishment will try to blacklist her. Girls are of course banned from seeing the customers privately, and so settling down with a customer also has a large permanent takeout fee. Why girls submit to these arrangements is a big mystery. There can be a lot of rules in contract the girl agrees to. Perhaps some establishments let girls do as they please, I don't know. Certainly the more stunning girls of Crazy House, are freelance, have no salary, and turn up when and if they please.
One girl meeting me, had to very careful not to be seen with me elsewhere, since I used to be her customer. Also once she was supposed to be someone's girlfriend after retiring, she needed to avoid gossip as well. So still has to see me in big secret.
I hear that BeerGarden in Soi 7, my favorite afternoon venue have closed down.
For my upcoming visit, is there any info if the BeerGarden WGs have set up office somewhere else?
I hear that BeerGarden in Soi 7, my favorite afternoon venue have closed down.
For my upcoming visit, is there any info if the BeerGarden WGs have set up office somewhere else?Latest intel I got from a long time regular Beer Garden FL is that it will close for 3-4 months IN about a month (still open today) and then re-open after remodeling and upgrading has been done. Hopefully, that means at least air conditioning in the joint.
This was as of 3-4 days ago and from a FL there who ought to know but who could also be utterly clueless about the facts.
Somewhere15
01-18-17, 12:59
I hear that BeerGarden in Soi 7, my favorite afternoon venue have closed down.
For my upcoming visit, is there any info if the BeerGarden WGs have set up office somewhere else?End of last week the Beergarden was still open.
It looks like the most business between Sukhumvite main road and the premises of the Beergarden are already closed or will be. It seems that there is a development going on between Soi 5 and Soi 7.
If you took the side sub-soi before (which is paralel on Sukhumvite Main Road) between Soi 5 and Soi 7 you see there already some new openings (mainly on Soi 5 side).
Passed by there the other day and decided to have a look. Was late afternoon. About 5 gals outside; not a single one of them attractive. Will circle back by in the next few days for another look.Went by their a couple of times in last couple of weeks, not a single one of them even good looking!
Hi all,
Anyone happen to know if 0. 01 condoms (such as the Sagami or Okamoto brands) are sold in Thailand? So far I've only seen them sold in Japan. I see the 0. 02 Sagami's in Bangkok everywhere, but I'm specifically looking for the 0. 01's. They make a HUGE difference compared to the 0. 02's, in case anyone is curious about trying them. The drawback is they are very snug and tricky to put on.
Any help is much appreciated, thanks!
Member #4698
01-18-17, 16:55
Hi all,
Anyone happen to know if 0. 01 condoms (such as the Sagami or Okamoto brands) are sold in Thailand? So far I've only seen them sold in Japan. I see the 0. 02 Sagami's in Bangkok everywhere, but I'm specifically looking for the 0. 01's. They make a HUGE difference compared to the 0. 02's, in case anyone is curious about trying them. The drawback is they are very snug and tricky to put on.
Any help is much appreciated, thanks!Yes, Sagami 01's are available, but in the regular size only. The 02's are available in regular and large. Check the Pharmacy on Soi 11 east side of the soi.
Yes, Sagami 01's are available, but in the regular size only. The 02's are available in regular and large. Check the Pharmacy on Soi 11 east side of the soi.
Ah, thank you! I'll go check that out this week.
Perhaps I'm late to noticing, or just doing recon in anticipation of my planned trip to Bangkok and Patts in February, but the number, and frequency, of YouTube videos featuring Soi Cowboy, Nana and other popular punting grounds, has vastly increased. I don't know whether the ersatz Marty Scorceses are readers or members of this community, but. Shit. They particularly enjoy focusing in on the negotiations, say among girls lined up outside the Thermae building / outside Hooters, etc. I'm guessing that most here are savvy to this Hollywood set, but for the unsuspecting (and these guys like to shoot their footage from across the street or from an overpass) beware of being the next reality TV star.
One of the YouTube fellers, goes by King something or other, is a particular offender who offers fairly basic, and sometimes goofy information, as in suggesting that one can economize in an agogo by ordering a bottle of water (mindless that the beer special is probably going to be tens of baht cheaper.) But anyway.
I've been posting questions lately, rather than making any sort of contribution, which I aim to rectify upon the termination of a five-year sentence in Sex Prison USA (no, it wasn't an Obama commutation.) I'm wondering if any expert member has visited Lord's Palace or a similar higher-end place that would welcome farangs, and the likely expense there. Thanks.
Latest intel I got from a long time regular Beer Garden FL is that it will close for 3-4 months IN about a month (still open today) and then re-open after remodeling and upgrading has been done. Hopefully, that means at least air conditioning in the joint.
This was as of 3-4 days ago and from a FL there who ought to know but who could also be utterly clueless about the facts.I also got the information from a reliable source that they will close about February 1st and stay shut down for about 3 months for renovation.
But I wouldn't put to much money on the bet that there will be A/C when reopening.
I also got the information from a reliable source that they will close about February 1st and stay shut down for about 3 months for renovation.
But I wouldn't put to much money on the bet that there will be A/C when reopening.I have not been a regular at Bier Garten, struggled to find exciting girls (same as any other similar beer garden type setting), but it seems quite large, open to the outside air, and would cost a bit to run air con all the time. Would they need to have doors that open and close? So I also think aircon is unlikely, but depends on what are the features of the renovation or redevelopment. Will there be a complete change of style, to be more up market, somehow? Like a new daytime Thermae? LOL.
I will certainly want to have a look after opens again, since I have not been there for such a long time.
So would interesting to hear what the renovation / redevelopment is all about. Is it major or minor? The land is obviously very valuable and presumably under utilised at the moment as far as profit is concerned (from drink sales).
I would love to be a daytime customer, if the overall quality of girls attracted went up. It could easily steal a lot of business from the Nana daytime bars if they managed to improve it. The laid back style does have its appeal.
Are there many really good looking free lance girls that like to work daytime? If so where do they hang out currently? or are they already in Bier Garten? Do Japanese guys go to Bier Garten or stick to Thermae at night?
Hi all,
Anyone happen to know if 0. 01 condoms (such as the Sagami or Okamoto brands) are sold in Thailand? So far I've only seen them sold in Japan. I see the 0. 02 Sagami's in Bangkok everywhere, but I'm specifically looking for the 0. 01's. They make a HUGE difference compared to the 0. 02's, in case anyone is curious about trying them. The drawback is they are very snug and tricky to put on.
Any help is much appreciated, thanks!You should try Double Benefits condom. One size Fits all sizes and not break as easy as some Durex and Okamoto and safer for the ladies inner parts too.
I have not been a regular at Bier Garten, struggled to find exciting girls (same as any other similar beer garden type setting),
I would love to be a daytime customer, if the overall quality of girls attracted went up. It could easily steal a lot of business from the Nana daytime bars if they managed to improve it. The laid back style does have its appeal.
Are there many really good looking free lance girls that like to work daytime? If so where do they hang out currently? or are they already in Bier Garten? Do Japanese guys go to Bier Garten or stick to Thermae at night?Bier Garten is a Jurassic park just as nana hotel. Probably they share the same birthdate.
You will find FL's at any time during its opening times.
Patronised by a variety of nationalities, often in the 50+ age range, you would not see any Japanese there.
If it goes through renovation it will be interesting to see how it is done and whether it will keep its role of pick up joint.
Can it become a new Gulliver's?
RyeHumor63
01-19-17, 06:10
After hitting the go-go bars and not being able to snag our desired dancers, my colleague and I found ourselves at about 2 am moving down to Penny Black which is the bar at the corner. It is an outdoor only bar, and has a kind of "last stop" feel to it, I. E. One of those watering holes that is busy at 4 am and is frequented by people who are doing an all-night. This wasn't our intention but my colleague wanted to see if a Shark girl he met previously was going to return and thus we languished there. While drinking, I started to chat to a small, somewhat cute Thai woman named Fa who was working for the Bar. While FA isn't in my normal range of interest 20-25, she was a well presented happy 29 yr old without any kids, and could speak English. We chatted and danced for a while and then about 3:30 am I popped the question to go back to my hotel. She initially wanted 2500 Thb for 7-8 hours but eventually we settled on 2000 Thb and walked back to the hotel. (as it was that close).
If you get a chance to hook up with Fa, I would suggest doing so, as I think with the right treatment, she can willingly deliver a GFE experience. When we got back to the hotel, perhaps too sensibly, Fa suggested that we have a shower, We did so in turns, and then found ourselves in my bedroom looking at each other in our Terry robes. At this point, I took the lead, opened her robe, and started to kiss her. I received a tentative reply for my efforts initially, but gradually things became more relaxed, genuine and passionate. As we took the robes off, we got into the bed, and then spent the next hour or so enjoying sex with each other, as a Girlfriend / Boyfriend would do. We both participated in mutual oral on each other for sometime and then advanced to Sex in multiple positions. The sex was really enjoyable because Fa is not only physically small but she has got a really tight little pussy. We had to use quite a lot of lub during sex, and as she got more excited, her pussy got tighter. At one point she was gripping my shaft like a vice and we had to switch to a different set of sitting positions to accommodate. As the sex got hotter, tentative kisses turned to French kissing and slow deep thrusts became more rapid and spontaneous.
I hadn't really expected much when we got in the room, but was very happy, as was Fa by the outcome and I took her number. You'll find her at the Penny Black most days quite late I think, and if you are nice to her, and are generous with your bar orders, likely to win her over. I don't think she goes back all that often however, and I would say I probably ended up spending maybe 1200 Thb at the bar as well as giving the bar tender a sort of bar fee on leaving (400 thb).
HorseTrader
01-19-17, 07:29
I'm a seasoned monger but the last few days represent my first visit to Bangkok. Quite simply, it isn't quite what I expected. So far I only know Sukhumvit from Soi 2 to Soi 15. There is much more that will be explored over the next few weeks.
Street Katoys. Before I arrived I expected to see almost exclusively Asian women working the bars, streets, and massage places. Reality seems to match my expectations in the bars and massage places, but the streets are a different story. So many katoys that I'm afraid to deal with anything that is taller than about 5'1". Some of the katoys are pretty creepy looking.
African Girls. I was expecting to see near zero African girls. That certainly isn't the case on certain streets.
Renegotiations. Found a girl I liked along Soi 3 and made a deal to walk to my nice hotel a few blocks away and spend the night for 2000 baht. When we got half way to my hotel she said she wasn't walking any further unless I agreed to 3000 baht because my hotel was too far too walk (probably 10 minute walk). When I said "no", she asked how much I could pay and I said "2000 baht. " She removed her demand for more money but by that time her attitude had gone too far down hill and I said I was no longer interested at any price. She just turned around and walked back to Soi 3. There are too many options to deal with any known bad attitudes. All the other girls remained sweet through my experiences.
Condoms at Massage Places. I've been quite pleased with the massage girls that I've seen. So far there has been OK massage plus decent boom boom. My one mistake was not bringing my own condom for one visit. My gosh those girl provided condoms are thick, I couldn't feel much of anything. I won't make that mistake a second time.
Massage Prices. I typically go into the tiny places for a 400 baht oil massage and negotiate after about 20-30 minutes of massage. Girls typically ask for an extra 2000 baht for boom boom (2400 baht total) and I typically offer 1200 baht for the massage plus boom boom. Once I held firm at 1200 baht and got good services (tipped 400 baht, but that wasn't part of the deal). Other times we've agreed to total package prices between 1500 and 1800 baht, I only tip if I'm very happy after the event.
BBBJ and BBFS. From what I've read and heard from various people, I was expecting that BBBJ would be standard and BBFS would be highly available. I'm a guy that does only covered services, both BJ and FS. From what I've seen so far, that is the same as what the girls like to provide. Still, I've had a small sample and I may have different conclusions before my visit is through.
Yes, Sagami 01's are available, but in the regular size only. The 02's are available in regular and large. Check the Pharmacy on Soi 11 east side of the soi.Natty, I just checked two pharmacies on Soi 11 (one at the entrance, and another further down), but sadly they only have 03's. Neither had the Sagami 01's. Unless you are talking about the Boots pharmacy?
Hi all,
Anyone happen to know if 0. 01 condoms (such as the Sagami or Okamoto brands) are sold in Thailand? So far I've only seen them sold in Japan. I see the 0. 02 Sagami's in Bangkok everywhere, but I'm specifically looking for the 0. 01's. They make a HUGE difference compared to the 0. 02's, in case anyone is curious about trying them. The drawback is they are very snug and tricky to put on.
Any help is much appreciated, thanks!Try lazada. Co. Th, they deliver even to an hotel address within 1 to 3 days.
I order my condoms since a while trough this channel. Very convenient.
But I wouldn't put to much money on the bet that there will be A/C when reopening.I have never understood the management's reasoning behind there being no air conditioning in Beer Garden Soi 7. Is it because they keep their front door wide open? There are air conditioners running in some of the wide open outdoor beer bars on Soi 4 and those are invariably the "outdoor" bars I and most other guys I know tend to patronize when the weather is hot. Is it to save money? Ditto to my previous statement. I suppose nobody considered the probability that a beer hall / restaurant / pick up joint that isn't hotter on the inside than the temperature is on the outside during Hot Season might attract more customers to pay that electric bill.
The giant turbo wind-tunnel fans placed around the bar help a bit to alleviate the suffering. But those of us who are neither bald nor choose to wear a buzz haircut will probably look like an insane clown with our hair sticking up this way and that within minutes of arriving because of those fans. LOL. And I honestly believe one reason Beer Garden ends up with so many older, less skilled FLs is because the heat conditions are only tolerable for desperate girls simply looking for a place to sit down.
If the remodel/upgrade/renovation of Beer Garden doesn't include at least one small ceiling mounted air conditioner then I guess that will reinforce the concept of "This is Thailand". Makes no sense.
Perhaps I'm late to noticing, or just doing recon in anticipation of my planned trip to Bangkok and Patts in February, but the number, and frequency, of YouTube videos featuring Soi Cowboy, Nana and other popular punting grounds, has vastly increased. I don't know whether the ersatz Marty Scorceses are readers or members of this community, but. Shit. They particularly enjoy focusing in on the negotiations, say among girls lined up outside the Thermae building / outside Hooters, etc. I'm guessing that most here are savvy to this Hollywood set, but for the unsuspecting (and these guys like to shoot their footage from across the street or from an overpass) beware of being the next reality TV star.
One of the YouTube fellers, goes by King something or other, is a particular offender who offers fairly basic, and sometimes goofy information, as in suggesting that one can economize in an agogo by ordering a bottle of water (mindless that the beer special is probably going to be tens of baht cheaper.) But anyway.
I've been posting questions lately, rather than making any sort of contribution, which I aim to rectify upon the termination of a five-year sentence in Sex Prison USA (no, it wasn't an Obama commutation.) I'm wondering if any expert member has visited Lord's Palace or a similar higher-end place that would welcome farangs, and the likely expense there. Thanks.The venues, especially somewhere like Nana Plaza needs to have security looking out constantly for people filming. Put signs up banning video recording. Have security guards get heavy handed with these leeches and their expensive recording equipment.
Member #4698
01-19-17, 21:22
Natty, I just checked two pharmacies on Soi 11 (one at the entrance, and another further down), but sadly they only have 03's. Neither had the Sagami 01's. Unless you are talking about the Boots pharmacy?No, I was thinking of the pharmacy further down Soi 11. They always had 01's & 02's in the back of the store whenever I looked. But no problem, check out Charoen Pharmacy on Sukhumvit down past the Soi 4 petrol station, heading towards Soi 2. The 2nd pharmacy you come to and the one closest to Billy's is a very reliable provider of generic medicine of various types including ED's. The last time I was at Charoen to pick up some generic Cialis I saw they had Sagami 02's both regular and large, but not 01's.
PS I never leave home without them. LOL. I will be packing a big supply of Sagami 01's and the large size 02's for my upcoming trip plus I am going to try a new brand called Hex by Lelo, the company famous for their vibrators. I bought a box of Hex on the company's new product rollout in August or September for a righteous price. Supposedly at 0.045mm, they are the thinnest Latex condom in the world. I plan to give them a test drive on my next trip and will report back.
https://www.lelo.com/hex-condoms-original
I am also going to bring along my Lelo MIA 2 compact travel vibrator. Some of my girls love it.
After hitting the go-go bars and not being able to snag our desired dancers, my colleague and I found ourselves at about 2 am moving down to Penny Black which is the bar at the corner. It is an outdoor only bar, and has a kind of "last stop" feel to it, I. E. One of those watering holes that is busy at 4 am and is frequented by people who are doing an all-night. You were in Penny Black, Soi Cowboy? It's actually not on the corner but is next to Corner bar which is on the Asoke corner of Cowboy. It's also not an "Outdoor Only" pub as far as I know. I have been in plenty of time to use Short Time rooms but not recently, since disco was added. Maybe you were actually outdoors nearby?
FreebieFan
01-20-17, 04:11
No, I was thinking of the pharmacy further down Soi 11. They always had 01's & 02's in the back of the store whenever I looked. But no problem, check out Charoen Pharmacy on Sukhumvit down past the Soi 4 petrol station, heading towards Soi 2. The 2nd pharmacy you come to and the one closest to Billy's is a very reliable provider of generic medicine of various types including ED's. The last time I was at Charoen to pick up some generic Cialis I saw they had Sagami 02's both regular and large, but not 01's.
t.I would endorse Nattys comments here. That pharmacy has been supplying me with various products for the past 20 years and all seem to do the job. No fakes. Same guy (Thai / Chinese) seems to be there every day, and every time I visit. Its a good and popular pharmacy with, for me, a good solid reputation.
Robert Long
01-20-17, 08:31
No, I was thinking of the pharmacy further down Soi 11. They always had 01's & 02's in the back of the store whenever I looked. But no problem, check out Charoen Pharmacy on Sukhumvit down past the Soi 4 petrol station, heading towards Soi 2. The 2nd pharmacy you come to and the one closest to Billy's is a very reliable provider of generic medicine of various types including ED's. The last time I was at Charoen to pick up some generic Cialis I saw they had Sagami 02's both regular and large, but not 01's.
PS I never leave home without them. LOL. I will be packing a big supply of Sagami 01's and the large size 02's for my upcoming trip plus I am going to try a new brand called Hex by Lelo, the company famous for their vibrators. I bought a box of Hex on the company's new product rollout in August or September for a righteous price. Supposedly at 0.045mm, they are the thinnest Latex condom in the world. I plan to give them a test drive on my next trip and will report back.
https://www.lelo.com/hex-condoms-original
I am also going to bring along my Lelo MIA 2 compact travel vibrator. Some of my girls love it.I have checked Boons on 11 and many of the pharmacy on Suk, and even the pharms on Soi 5 inside across from Gulliver's. I found a few 003's but it looks like Dura is controlling the market. They are full on in all of the pharmacy. The 003's aren't bad.
RL.
I have checked Boons on 11 and many of the pharmacy on Suk, and even the pharms on Soi 5 inside across from Gulliver's. I found a few 003's but it looks like Dura is controlling the market. They are full on in all of the pharmacy. The 003's aren't bad.
RL.You may try the Gateway commercial center at the Ekkamai BTS. There is a Japanese shop that have Sagami's condom also, I think it was the 002's and price was around 60 bhat but not sure.
No, I was thinking of the pharmacy further down Soi 11. They always had 01's & 02's in the back of the store whenever I looked. Your instructions are just a little vague. After Villa Markt there is a Pharmacy set back from the Soi, then a Bangkok Bank followed by another Pharmacy, closer to the road, and before Ambassador driveway.
Can you be referring to either of these? I am not aware if there are any more Pharmacies much further down the Soi.
Member #4698
01-20-17, 14:53
Your instructions are just a little vague. After Villa Markt there is a Pharmacy set back from the Soi, then a Bangkok Bank followed by another Pharmacy, closer to the road, and before Ambassador driveway.
Can you be referring to either of these? I am not aware if there are any more Pharmacies much further down the Soi.I was referring to the small narrow Pharmacy closer to the road, flush with the other stores adjacent to it before the Ambassador driveway. The name escapes me. In the back of the store they have Sagami 01's original and 02's original and large. At least they always had them when I was in BKK.
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